[12:01] <lemur> Cntryboy: sorry about your slow dialup.  Maybe you should make friends with someone in the area who has a faster connection. ;)  Join an LUG or hang out with IT people
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> element,  stick with the good brand names.
[12:01] <Kibou> what's a "high-end" dvd burner?
[12:01] <kordokuvas> there's no dc++ and how to download it and run eith synap when it's everywhere written i have to go to some directories and compile some sourse
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> element,  ive had great luck with plextor.
[12:01] <lemur> or get a wireless rig and leech a hotspot. In the name of GNU!
[12:01] <LjL> a dvd burner placed on the roof
[12:01] <element> Dr_Willis, SATA or IDE?
[12:01] <mwe> element: About all burners work with linux
[12:01] <Jack_Sparrow> technel: I will walk you through that if you need..
[12:01] <LjL> kordokuvas: wha?
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> element,  im all ide
[12:01] <Cntryboy> lemur: 5 min away they have it, but don't know too many ppl here because i just moved here a year ago..
[12:01] <frying_fish> kordokuvas: there is dc++
[12:01] <LjL> kordokuvas: you don't have to compile nothin' from source
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> kordokuvas,   Tip #5 - when asking a question, dont be vague and rambling.
[12:02] <element> Dr_Willis, ah, I went SATA-II for my new system, so I have 2 320gb drives sitting here...waiting to order the rest of the hardware now.
[12:02] <kordokuvas> u call this inteligent OS when u need to spend hours and came out with still nothing,can't even install a single program
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> element,  ive not even seen a sata cdrom yet
[12:02] <redguy> !universe
[12:02] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:02] <frying_fish> it is either known as dcpp or, if you want something else try valknut
[12:02] <lemur> kordokuvas: there is a DC++ client for linux.  If it's not in the repositories, you will have to install it manually.  If it is, then alrighty, but it probably won't be found in the base repo (probably universe or multiverse)
[12:02] <element> Dr_Willis, plextor has one, but it has some compat issues with mobos
[12:02] <lemur> no word on what you want that horrid program for in the first place
[12:02] <frying_fish> kordokuvas: if its really that bad for you, then stop whinging and go back to windows.
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> kordokuvas,  lack of effort on your part is not a failure of the os.
[12:02] <kordokuvas> I see how helful you are
[12:03] <frying_fish> And as the others said, a lack of effort on your part is you failing, not the OS.
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> kordokuvas,  we see how 'thoughtfull' you are.
[12:03] <technel> Jack_Sparrow, I am going to restart and see if Diskmounter worked
[12:03] <Kibou> he's just trolling..
[12:03] <LjL> kordokuvas: you're a troll. you're boring. you've bored me. we're not here to hear you whining, and we're not here to hear you saying that linux is bad every 2 minutes. stop it now.
[12:03] <Jack_Sparrow> cool
[12:03] <charle97> !linus
[12:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about linus
[12:03] <redguy> kordokuvas, I've had it with you
[12:03] <kordokuvas> 100 times told me to get the fuck outta here and go to windows
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> Kibou,  yep. i agree
[12:03] <charle97> !linux
[12:03] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[12:03] <element> Dr_Willis, so you think this will work just fine? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827249003
[12:03] <lemur> kordokuvas: if you don't improve your attitude you are lining yourself up for administrative action.  We're here to help you as best we can, but you have to meet us halfway
[12:03] <frying_fish> kordokuvas: http://linuxdcpp.berlios.de/articles.php?um=index
[12:03] <kordokuvas> then u say people should use Linux
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> element,  im not one to ask for that. id say google
[12:03] <redguy> kordokuvas, read the guide I told you about
[12:03] <frying_fish> that is the linuxdc++ client the "official" one anyway.
[12:03] <kordokuvas> yeah,right
[12:03] <LjL> kordokuvas: i said, STOP IT NOW
[12:03] <LjL> !ops
[12:03] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[12:04] <element> Dr_Willis, google doesn't know much better :P
[12:04] <redguy> kordokuvas, red the !universe link ubotu will give you
[12:04] <redguy> kordokuvas, install dcgui2
[12:04] <charle97> !sources.list
[12:04] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:04] <redguy> !tell kordokuvas about universe
[12:04] <eromero> hi there :) hey any1 knows how do i tell ubuntu not to load certain modules at boot?
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> eromero,  there is a blacklist file in /etc/hotplug.d/ I think :P
[12:04] <frying_fish> eromero: add them to /etc/blacklist
[12:04] <Cntryboy> lemur: let me try this sudo chmod 777 /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:05] <Cntryboy> last resort I guess
[12:05] <kordokuvas> avery1 is telling me different thing
[12:05] <frying_fish> Dr_Willis: I don't think hotplug is with dapper (so if they are using that it won't work)
[12:05] <LjL> kordokuvas: that's because there is more than one way to do the same thing.
[12:05] <kordokuvas> completly lose any idea of what to do
[12:05] <ompaul> kordokuvas, there are many ways to do a job
[12:05] <eromero> where's the file that tells ubuntu which modules to load?
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> frying_fish,  that explains why i cant find it on this box now! :P but its on my other box! lol
[12:05] <lemur> Cntryboy: that will give everyone read/write/list access to that directory.  Since you arleady have read access, you perfectly covered.  I think the problem here is with the destination
[12:06] <frying_fish> Dr_Willis: yeah, dapper uses udev not hotplug
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> frying_fish,  im soo confused. :) lol
[12:06] <frying_fish> :)
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> my old file server is like running... breezy or warty :P its so old.
[12:06] <lemur> Dr_Willis: it's not THAT old :)
[12:06] <frying_fish> lol
[12:06] <hyphenated> eromero: the man pages for 'modprobe.conf' and 'depmod' will explain it better than people on IRC can
[12:06] <abo> is there a way to print to a file ?
[12:07] <LjL> kordokuvas: perhaps it would help if you stopped whining and just listened, and asked the *relevant* questions. anyway, 1) follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and enable the Universe repository, which contains a few Direct Connect clients   2) install one of them (possibly the one called "dcgui") using Synaptic, as clearly explained by https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[12:07] <technel> Jack_Sparrow, It works, thanks :)
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> abo,  configure your printer.. and print away
[12:07] <lemur> I remember when there was no such thing as ubuntu
[12:07] <Jack_Sparrow> No Problem technel
[12:07] <VoytekG> Hi everyone. I have a hard drive partition that I just reformatted to FAT32 file system (it was NTFS before) and now Ubuntu can't see any of the files on there, while Windows can. Can anyone help or give advice?
[12:07] <charle97> what is this ubuntu?
[12:07] <Seveas> LjL, too bad you wasted so much effort, he 'left' 
[12:07] <eromero> hyphenated: thanks
[12:07] <eromero> let's see...
[12:07] <abo> Dr_Willis, I need to print to a file ... a PS or PDF file
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> VoytekG,  check the fstab entry
[12:07] <Cntryboy> lemur: sorry bro I found out why, it was a lock file that it was trying to skip
[12:08] <LjL> Seveas: i noticed, yep... but at any rated it'd still have been wasted even if he was still here >:
[12:08] <Cntryboy> lemur: i didn't need it so Im all good I think
[12:08] <technel> One question though: What are those things called that allow you to click on it and go to another folder? (Equivelant of a Windows shortcut) Like symbols or something?
[12:08] <VoytekG> Dr_Willis- will do, thanks.
[12:08] <Jack_Sparrow> VoytekG: How did you change the Partition format..
[12:08] <ompaul> LjL, sharp observation
[12:08] <redguy> technel, symbolic links
[12:08] <lemur> Cntryboy: yeah, the lock file is not readable, but that is just for the program's use..you won't need it
[12:08] <technel> redguy, Ah, thanks
[12:08] <lemur> Cntryboy: :)
[12:08] <redguy> technel, np :-)
[12:08] <charle97> voytekg, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[12:08] <VoytekG> Jack_Sparrow - I did it in Windows, using My Computer / manage Drives.
[12:08] <Cntryboy> lemur: yah I didn't know that :) yay
[12:09] <codecaine> I don't know what happen now when I login to ubuntu gui gnome my sound sounds bag and seems to dragout anybody know what could cause that?
[12:09] <lemur> man, I wish linux weren't regarded as an alternative to windows :(
[12:09] <Fatal`> why :(
[12:09] <kordokuvas> why did u kick me?
[12:09] <lemur> to stop people from comparing them
[12:09] <Seveas> LjL, so true
[12:09] <codecaine> lol
[12:09] <xenoborg> lol
[12:09] <Seveas> kordokuvas, for being obnoxious in a support channel
[12:09] <Fatal`> wtf...what do you want to compare linux to?
[12:09] <Fatal`> hehe
[12:10] <Seveas> let that be a warning, next time it's a ban
[12:10] <VoytekG> charle 97 - i will check that out too. this isn't the Windows partition, though, it's a third partition meant to act as a place to store files. i will look at all these options, though and will be back. thank you!
[12:10] <reemusk> i can't figure out how to install flash. where do i extract the files to in firefox?
[12:10] <lemur> Fatal`: to unix ;)
[12:10] <Fatal`> lmao
[12:10] <codecaine> man wonder what happen to my login sound :P
[12:10] <Fatal`> my only comparison, being a lifetime winodws user, is windows!
[12:10] <redguy> !flash
[12:10] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:10] <Fatal`> and i like ubuntu better :)
[12:10] <kordokuvas> obnoxious-I'm not exatcly english speaking as 1st lang
[12:10] <Cntryboy> lemur: thanks again for help bro
[12:10] <kordokuvas> what does it mean
[12:10] <Cntryboy> going to get off here and get this install done
[12:11] <Cntryboy> :)
[12:11] <lemur> I used to use DOS back in the day... had to be dragged kicking and screaming to windows when that got popular
[12:11] <lemur> Cntryboy: have fun
[12:11] <redguy> reemusk, read the wiki links ubotu gave you
[12:11] <Seveas> kordokuvas, mostly annoying
[12:11] <Cntryboy> tc
[12:11] <xenoborg> why don't you use the flash plugin in the multiverse repository
[12:11] <Fatal`> hehe, i won't ever use windows if i can just get ubuntu stable
[12:11] <lemur> maybe kordokuvas could use a second chance..  let's not get too hard on his case lest he become bitter
[12:11] <Fatal`> till then...dual boot
[12:12] <Zaire> how do you view the history on Konqueror?
[12:12] <kordokuvas> annoying-another word i dont no,maybe when i go back to windows will see it in the dictionary
[12:12] <lemur> Fatal`: sorry... we've all been there :)
[12:12] <Fatal`> hehe
[12:12] <skavenge> www.dict.org look it up
[12:12] <LjL> kordokuvas: you have a dictionary in Ubuntu
[12:12] <xenoborg> goto dict.leo.org
[12:12] <lemur> Zaire: a story of intrigue and revenge
[12:12] <Zaire> ?
[12:12] <lemur> sorry, bad pun
[12:12] <gnomefreak> kordokuvas: please dont troll in here
[12:12] <codecaine> how do I make sure I have alsa for my main sound?
[12:13] <Zaire> I seriously have no idea how to view the history on konqueror
[12:13] <kordokuvas> well,i dont,and i wont ask,there's no point,and i need to see what does it mean in bulgarian
[12:13] <LjL> Zaire: F9
[12:13] <lemur> Zaire: there should be a side pain that will expand on the left.  I don't know if you have it or not
[12:13] <ba5e> does anyone know if its possible to get a windows xp corp key that is multi language?
[12:13] <Zaire> ah thanks got it now lol
[12:13] <gnomefreak> kordokuvas: join #ubuntu-offtopic for that topic
[12:13] <ba5e> shit sorry wrong room!
[12:14] <LjL> kordokuvas: , 
[12:14] <lemur> ba5e: you are forgiven
[12:14] <Zaire> I had no idea cause I use firefox mainly but needed the history from the other
[12:14] <ba5e> didnt mean to ask that
[12:14] <Seveas> bye bye cracker
[12:14] <moparfan90> hello. im and trying to get vmware to work and when i try to start it i get "vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configuredfor this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following command:/  usr/bin/vmware-config.pl."
[12:14] <xenoborg> assiduity
[12:14] <gnomefreak> Seveas: ;)
[12:14] <moparfan90> and i configured it  times and nothing
[12:14] <amortvigil> how cani switch files from /var/www/ to /media/htdocs?
[12:14] <kordokuvas> how did u do it with the bulgarian?
[12:14] <Seveas> amortvigil, edit /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default
[12:15] <skavenge> theres about 100 translating webpages
[12:15] <LjL> kordokuvas: i typed "bulgarian dictionary" into google, and a site called http://sa.dir.bg/ showed up, and i used it. then i copied&pasted
[12:15] <Eazy->  I have to deactivate and activate my network in kcontrol after every reboot to get online...anyone have a clue what might be wrong? I know I should probably be asking in #kubuntu, but noone seems to know there :P
[12:15] <lemur> where would we be without google
[12:15] <lemur> Eazy-: are you using dhcp?
[12:15] <LjL> lemur: at a far place called AltaVista
[12:15] <Eazy-> yes
[12:16] <lemur> LjL: I still remember that place!
[12:16] <Zaire> dude wth was with the mass ban remove?
[12:16] <DonL> hi
[12:16] <VoytekG> Hey, to everyone to gave me advice. Thanks -- my partition is back. I edited the fstab file (it was the first thing I tried) and it works. Thanks again!
[12:16] <Eazy-> tried with static IP but it didnt work either
[12:16] <LjL> Eazy-: do you have "resolvconf" installed?
[12:16] <Eazy-> duno
[12:16] <Seveas> Zaire, op on power trip 
[12:16] <LjL> Eazy-: type "apt-cache policy resolvconf | grep Installed"
[12:16] <lemur> Eazy-: I had an issuse with my static IP configuration where ubuntu's graphical config would not properly store the nameserver info.  This may make it seem like you don't have a connection
[12:16] <HartNot> does anyone use swiftfox here?
[12:16] <Zaire> ah ic shouldn't have op in that case
[12:16] <Fatal`> alright...i think im going to migrate on over to ubuntu...what's ctrl-alt-f2 do again?
[12:17] <Eazy-> I see i dont have it installed
[12:17] <Seveas> Zaire, well, ompaul is the friendliest op we have actually ;)
[12:17] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:17] <Zaire> lol
[12:17] <LjL> Fatal`: switches your virtual terminal, like all ctrl+alt+fX keys
[12:17] <ompaul> Zaire, if it was mass ban I might concur
[12:17] <Eazy-> so it should be enough to install resolvconf?
[12:17] <LjL> Fatal`: F7 is generally your X terminal
[12:17] <lemur> Eazy-: one would hope
[12:17] <LjL> Eazy-: no
[12:17] <LjL> Eazy-: i had a similar problem, and it turned out that resolvconf was *causing* that problem
[12:18] <Eazy-> hehe
[12:18] <derek> I just got Linux!!!!!!1
[12:18] <derek> YEPPEEEEEEEEEE!
[12:18] <Zaire> just a little iffy since recent events I read about on digg that happened on freenode lol
[12:18] <Seveas> derek, welcome to the dark side of the force
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[12:18] <derek> mwhahaha
[12:18] <lemur> I had the same problem as LjL...I had to manually add my nameserver in the resolveconf config files
[12:18] <derek> Yeah to bad windows is gone, so i have no choice
[12:18] <lemur> otherwise it would not stay
[12:18] <ompaul> Zaire, ehh, that would be bans
[12:18] <ompaul> Zaire, I have another 20 or so before I go to bed
[12:19] <Eazy-> ok, I got some hints now anyway :)
[12:19] <Eazy-> thanx!
[12:19] <LjL> lemur: i simply removed resolvconf, and then the KDE settings magically worked again
[12:19] <derek> YEah so some geeky kid gave me the disk
[12:19] <zim> I LOVE xlg it rocks
[12:19] <lemur> I'm surprised this resolveconf problem exists in ubuntu LTS, and that it hasn't been patched
[12:19] <lemur> I guess I could try uninstalling it to, but I already configured it manually :)
[12:19] <lemur> all that work put to waste
[12:19] <Eazy-> I'll try to installe it first :)
[12:19] <ompaul> derek, #ubuntu is a support channel, join the chatter in #ubuntu-offtopic thanks :-)
[12:19] <LjL> lemur: well, in the responses to my bug report, i have been assured that resolvconf was *not* installed automatically as a part of kubuntu
[12:20] <LjL> lemur: on the other hand, i don't recall installing it, and i don't see what could have installed it. but anyway
[12:20] <cheeseman557> im getting this error while installing ubuntu: a buffer i/o error on device sr0, logical block <some number>. anyone know what to do?
[12:20] <derek> Does anyone know any burning software for Ubuntu?
[12:20] <zim> can i set a diff background on each desktop
[12:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[12:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about backup
[12:20] <Eazy-> I have a fresh install of Kubuntu and its not installed
[12:21] <reemusk> it says to install the package flashplugin-nonfree
[12:21] <ompaul> derek, gnomebaker or if you have an iso on your desktop just right click on it
[12:21] <reemusk> i don't see that package in synaptic
[12:21] <LjL> derek: k3b, but it's for KDE
[12:21] <gnomefreak> derek: there are alot gnomebaker, k3b, nautilus-burner
[12:21] <redguy> !tell reemusk about universe
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[12:21] <derek> Thanks
[12:21] <derek> <3 IRC
[12:21] <gnomefreak> LjL: still runs in gnome ;)
[12:21] <Jack_Sparrow> LjL: K3b works fine in Ubuntu
[12:21] <lemur> LjL: I have been using ubuntu...  I did have kubuntu-desktop installed but later removed it
[12:22] <DonL> I like K3b too
[12:22] <lemur> I should have paid better attention to how the installs went
[12:22] <zim> is there a way to have a diff background image on each desktop ???
[12:22] <zim> gnome
[12:22] <LjL> gnomefreak, Jack_Sparrow: and? gnomebaker runs fine in kubuntu (i suppose), but i'm still not going to use it. perhaps someone else would, but i still do find it polite to warn people when a program i'm telling them about is for another environment than the one they're using.
[12:22] <redguy> reemusk, flashplugin-nonfree is in multiverse repository
[12:22] <gnomefreak> LjL: yes
[12:22] <nbjayme> hello everybody,  is there already a solution to the "Failed to Intialize HAL!", i have placed the smbfs mount in rc.local and i still have the errors... please help..
[12:23] <gnomefreak> LjL: when you isntall them they install the libraries they need to run if you install k3b without kubuntu its still gonna install libqt3-mt
[12:23] <derek> I have to say this...Windows must burn
[12:23] <lemur> k3b is a part of KDE, but it is not necessarily "for" it in the sense that you can't use it all by itself in any other graphical environment.  It fits in with gnome just fine
[12:23] <LjL> gnomefreak: i know that
[12:23] <Jack_Sparrow> LjL: We always prefer an informed user. But saying that is a KDE app implies it will not run on Ubuntu
[12:23] <zim> derek have you installed xgl ???
[12:23] <LjL> lemur: except you'll have to install the KDE libraries -- actually, they'll get installed automatically, but anyway
[12:23] <goubuntu> !offtopic
[12:23] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:24] <DonL> Yes. I'm a big fan of Gnome, but K3b installed with just the necessary kde libraries and no more. Works like a charm
[12:24] <derek> Thanks for the DVD burning software guys
[12:24] <brian__> hey, how do you find your machine's IP address in ubuntu?
[12:24] <lemur> LjL: yeah, that's true...  it'll take up some disk space and sit on more memory when you load it, but all in all it's not such a bad deal
[12:24] <codecaine> when I play  movies and stuff the sound is off
[12:24] <codecaine> how can I fix that even when loading in windowsw
[12:24] <codecaine> I mean ubuntu
[12:24] <codecaine> lol
[12:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Blasphemy
[12:24] <HartNot> gasp
[12:24] <derek> Brain__ I usually use www.whatismyip.com
[12:25] <zim> can anyone tell me how i can have a diff background image on each of my 4 desktops in gnome
[12:25] <gnomefreak> brian__: ifconfig
[12:25] <lemur> I use my handy dandy router with dyndns..  never haver to worry what my ip is anymore ^_^
[12:25] <brian__> ipconfig you mean?  in the terminal?
[12:25] <HartNot> does anyone know how to install the mplayer plugin for swiftfox
[12:26] <lemur> HartNot: does swiftfox read /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins?
[12:26] <Eazy-> Installed resolveconf...now it works...lets see for how long :)
[12:26] <derek> I'm new to Linux, I download things but it goes into a archive thingy, and i cant install it. why?
[12:26] <zim> brian is a windoze boy ifconfig
[12:27] <brian__> ok
[12:27] <useename> derek you probably want to use Synaptic to install things
[12:27] <gnomefreak> derek: because you choose it to open with that instead of downloading to a dir
[12:27] <dreamcatcher5172> does anyone have a good fps or rpg game running on ubuntu right now? I just need to pointed to the right direction in terms of the popular games that everyone likes
[12:27] <lemur> HartNot: if it does, then I imagine that the mplayer-mozilla package in multiverse will work like a charm
[12:27] <HartNot> lemur, I'm not sure, how do I check that?
[12:27] <brian__> aha, got it, thanks zim
[12:27] <lemur> HartNot: to be honest, I'm not sure how you check it..  but that's where firefox loads its plugins from
[12:27] <reemusk> okay
[12:27] <zim> brian are you using wireless
[12:28] <reemusk> i added the repositiories and reloaded
[12:28] <reemusk> i still don't see flash-nonfree
[12:28] <lemur> reemusk: I just let flash install firefox automatically for me
[12:28] <derek> The archive manager is the only thing I can choose....
[12:29] <derek> I cant pick anything else
[12:29] <reemusk> leemur : i tried that but it said ti failed
[12:29] <lemur> reemusk: how odd
[12:29] <lemur> reemusk: what architecture are you running?
[12:29] <reemusk> leemur: very!
[12:29] <redguy> reemusk, ok, open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:29] <redguy> !terminal
[12:29] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:29] <reemusk> leemur: dapper drake
[12:29] <reemusk> trying that now
[12:29] <lemur> for x86?
[12:30] <reemusk> yes x86
[12:30] <jumper> hi
[12:30] <Zaire> is there anyone on right now running an FX 5200 nvidia card that has twinview working?
[12:30] <lemur> reemusk: oh, I see... hope the package works for you
[12:30] <reemusk> leemur: i got this error when i apt: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:30] <reemusk> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:31] <lemur> reemusk: it means that dpkg is running from another process.  Make sure you're not using anything else like aptitude, synaptic, etc
[12:31] <reemusk> oh i have synaptic running
[12:31] <reemusk> elt me close that
[12:31] <jumper> I have 2 hd: a Sata and A Udma hd. should I install the so on the sata and use the Udma for my data or viceversa? pls help
[12:31] <reemusk> leemur: now i have a new error
[12:31] <reemusk> reemusk@ReeDesk:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:31] <reemusk> Reading package lists... Done
[12:31] <reemusk> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:31] <reemusk> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[12:31] <gnomefreak> reemusk: dont paste in here
[12:31] <reemusk> gnomefreak: sorry
[12:31] <gnomefreak> reemusk: oh and enable multiverse
[12:32] <reemusk> gnome: educate me :)
[12:32] <gnomefreak> !repos
[12:32] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:32] <gnomefreak> reemusk: ^^^
[12:32] <reemusk> oh!
[12:32] <reemusk> gnome: i've already acivated those and reloaded
[12:32] <gnomefreak> reemusk: than paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin so i can look at it
[12:33] <reemusk> gnome: how do i display it
[12:33] <vbgunz> how do I find out my public ip address through Ubuntu? ifconfig, does not tell me what the public address is :(
[12:33] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[12:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:33] <gnomefreak> reemusk: ^^ open that linka nd paste the file cont4ents there
[12:34] <reemusk> gnome: i knew that, how do i display the file contents, or do i just find the file?
[12:34] <gnomefreak> reemusk: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:35] <reemusk> gnome: at pastebin now
[12:35] <DonL> HartNot, can
[12:36] <Aviatrixie> good evening from cloudy southwest Pennsylvania USA  :)
[12:36] <DonL> 't believe I havent heard of Swiftfox. I'll check it out
[12:36] <lemur> Aviatrixie: good afternoon from hot and sunny southern California
[12:36] <reemusk> gnome: should it always take this long to load the page AFTER I paste the information? it's just sitting here with the java box
[12:36] <Jack_Sparrow> lemur: San Diego here
[12:36] <amortvigil> hwo do you remove useres in console
[12:36] <Jack_Sparrow> reemusk: Sometimes it lags
[12:37] <Aviatrixie> LOL @lemur... how's the air quality today?  ;)
[12:37] <reemusk> jack: preesh :)
[12:37] <ompaul> !ontopic
[12:37] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> ALways good where I live...
[12:37] <reemusk> gnome: still waiting
[12:38] <Aviatrixie> <--- happens to like gnome... bunches
[12:38] <cheeseman557> anyone know what this error means: buffer I/O on device sr0, logical block 25527?
[12:39] <vbgunz> anyone know if Ubuntu can give me my public ip address? ifconfig doesn't seem to give it to me
[12:39] <Aviatrixie> but then it reminds me of my old but beloved powerbook
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> cheeseman557:  Accessing a usb removeable drive?
[12:39] <cheeseman557> no just my hard drive
[12:39] <reemusk> gnome: still waiting, is there any other way i can get this to you?
[12:39] <gnomefreak> reemusk: i told you to paste the contents on pastebin
[12:40] <Jack_Sparrow> reemusk: Paste it to #Jack_Sparrow while you wait
[12:40] <reemusk> gnome: i did. i'm waiting
[12:40] <gnomefreak> reemusk: can i have the address after you hit send
[12:40] <reemusk> jack: thanks, will do so. pastebin just asked me to download a php file
[12:40] <reemusk> after I hit send nothing happens
[12:40] <reemusk> it's stuck on loading
[12:41] <dsah> I can't get my ethernet to work at all
[12:41] <Jack_Sparrow> dsah: Your hardware type?
[12:41] <dsah> Asus A7N8X Deluxe
[12:42] <Jack_Sparrow> gnomefreak: He only has the mains enabled
[12:42] <dsah> two onboard ports
[12:42] <gnomefreak> i figured as much
[12:42] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: he said i already enabled all those :(
[12:42] <dli> dsah, two ethernet cards?
[12:42] <gnomefreak> !repos > reemusk
[12:43] <dsah> both are onboard on the motherboard
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> I was just trying to expedite things..
[12:43] <Aviatrixie> lottsa support happening at the moment... obviously not a good time for small talk. Have a good night all... and happy 4th to those in the usa  :)
[12:43] <dsah> G don't have ant non-onboard ones
[12:43] <dsah> *I
[12:43] <gnomefreak> reemusk: please read that wiki and enable multiverse repo
[12:43] <gnomefreak> brb
[12:43] <dli> dsah, that's very weird :( pastebin your lspci
[12:43] <reemusk> gnome: i have enabled multiverse repo
[12:43] <nny> does ubuntu support hfsplus (like say from a new mac)
[12:43] <dsah> Ispci?
[12:44] <dli> dsah, I don't mean it's impossible, but most likely, only one onboard nic
[12:44] <dli> !lspci > dsah
[12:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about lspci
[12:44] <Jack_Sparrow> dsah:  That has nvidia and 3Com lan cards
[12:44] <dsah> yeh, I know
[12:45] <dsah> would it matter that I am trying to connect through a hub?
[12:45] <reemusk> jack: i have enabled multiverse as the wiki page states. i have reloaded synaptic. pastebin is not working. what do i do?
[12:45] <dli> dsah, sudo apt-get install pciutils
[12:45] <diguana> Anyone know where I can find the setting that controls how long an SSH session can be inactive without disconnecting? I'm trying to access my home computer from work and it keeps kicking me out if I take my eyes off the window for a minute or two.
[12:45] <Jack_Sparrow> reemusk: Your paste into channel says dufferent
[12:45] <Jack_Sparrow> diff
[12:46] <reemusk> jack: interesting. interesting..
[12:46] <reemusk> jack: i do this in the software properties, correct?
[12:46] <patrickj> Dual lcds, finally :D
[12:46] <Jack_Sparrow> reemusk:  It just shows 4 mains
[12:46] <dsah> dliw that didn't do anything
[12:46] <dsah> *dli:
[12:46] <Jack_Sparrow> reemusk:  what?
[12:47] <dli> DIguana, that's controlled by sshd, the server side
[12:47] <reemusk> jack: it says to activate the repositories i must use software properties in administration
[12:47] <element> patrickj, me too :) 20"s :P
[12:47] <patrickj> element: mine are only 17"
[12:47] <element> :grin:
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Synaptic settings repositories
[12:48] <patrickj> what kind are yours?
[12:48] <element> aoc
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> click on all of them
[12:48] <reemusk> they are all clicked
[12:48] <reemusk> Adding the Universe and Multiverse Repositories
[12:48] <reemusk>     Navigate to "System" > "Administration" > "Software Properties".
[12:48] <zim> where do i map keys in gnome i want to map some custome keys on my logitec keyboard
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> reemusk: Try it my way
[12:48] <element> patrickj, do you see a conflict between these two? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227124 -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131022
[12:48] <patrickj> element: nice, DO you think I could check out your xorgconfig to see an example of the dual lcds?
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Synaptic settings repositories
[12:49] <element> patrickj, I'm still on windows :P  this is my new box
[12:49] <stelki> I'm going to try my luck again: Have anybody other than me experienced a menu entry in gnome that you just can seem to remove? I've been trying with alacarte, but everytime I try to disable the entry, it just comes back instantly - what can I possibly do to get around this?
[12:49] <patrickj> damn, lol k
[12:49] <reemusk> i'm there
[12:49] <reemusk> jack
[12:49] <element> patrickj, so do you?
[12:49] <patrickj> element: no I dont see any conflict between those two, why uou ask?
[12:49] <patrickj> *you
[12:49] <reemusk> jack: they are all checked
[12:50] <element> patrickj, ordering my new hardware ;)
[12:50] <patrickj> nice
[12:50] <patrickj> element: its really good ram
[12:50] <element> dual 320gb drives, 2gb of ram, dual-core
[12:50] <element> dual 20" monitors, and more :P
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> reemusk: Were they before?
[12:50] <element> patrickj, SATA-II too :)
[12:50] <patrickj> element: oh, nice
[12:50] <patrickj> you could go for a little bit better of a motherboard though
[12:50] <element> cost me a pretty penny, but well worth it
[12:51] <patrickj> element: and what cpu ?
[12:51] <element> 4200+
[12:51] <element> X2
[12:51] <[Nige_Away] > j #debian
[12:51] <patrickj> hmm nice
[12:51] <patrickj> lucky bugger
[12:51] <stelki> element: damn, you won the lottery?
[12:51] <patrickj> Im just running dual xeons
[12:51] <element> stelki, no, my old computer is slowly dieing :P
[12:51] <patrickj> and dual 17" lcds :P
[12:51] <element> stelki, I have a 2ghz w/ 1gb of ram right now, about 5 years old
[12:52] <stelki> element: pfft, nothing wrong with that :D
[12:52] <element> I'll be selling a lot of my hardware too, 17" Samsung LCD, speakers, and some more
[12:52] <element> stelki, too slow for me :)
[12:52] <patrickj> lol k
[12:52] <patrickj> mines Dual 2.2GHz Xeons, 512mb Ram though
[12:52] <element> stelki, I like top performance
[12:52] <stelki> element: hehe, I getcha, luckily I'm patient enough
[12:52] <element> patrickj, I didn't want to go xeon, AMD is far above Xeon right now -- you should upgrade your ram too
[12:53] <element> stelki, more than welcome to buy my old hardware :)
[12:53] <patrickj> Yeh I know, but im broke ATM
[12:53] <patrickj> and 512mb ram is fine for linux
[12:53] <patrickj> I ONLY run linux
[12:53] <element> I have an extra Samsung 172X now :)
[12:53] <patrickj> k lol
[12:53] <Jack_Sparrow> reemusk: Your silence implies that it now works for you... Glad to help
[12:53] <patrickj> also, this mobo takes RDRAM, so basically its alot to get more ram :\
[12:54] <ompaul> notice  --  flood of unbans  coming up
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[12:55] <patrickj> well im going to install Debian, im ditching ubuntu sadly lol
[12:55] <patrickj> bbl
[12:55] <PFA> in gtk/deborphan . . . how do i know which packages to remove? :S
[12:55] <stelki> oh for the love of god I dont get this, silly gnome
[12:55] <patrickj> element: nice talking :P
[12:55] <patrickj> LOL
[12:55] <Jack_Sparrow> stelki: Anything we might do to help?
[12:55] <nekromaan> hello, i compiled a new kernel 2.6.17.3 and get this error msg http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=443368 , i also cant use my second hard drive, what options do i have to en/disable in the kernel menu?
[12:56] <stelki> Jack_Sparrow: yeah I already asked a while ago, dont wanna spam too much with my silly questions though
[12:56] <stelki> figures noone answered noone knows
[12:56] <Stormx2> Ask away.
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> I probably wont know but ask anyhow
[12:56] <Stormx2> Oh and btw, you should all buy the ubuntu cds. They come with free stickers!
[12:57] <stelki> Alrighty then: Have anybody other than me experienced a menu entry in gnome that you just can seem to remove? I've been trying with alacarte, but everytime I try to disable the entry, it just comes back instantly - what can I possibly do to get around this?
[12:57] <Gareth1> ooh, stickers
[12:57] <gnomefreak> stelki: buy?
[12:57] <Jack_Sparrow> What is it and where in the menu
[12:57] <Stormx2> stelki: Ooh odd, I've never had that.
[12:57] <gnomefreak> shipit comes with stickers now ;)
[12:57] <n0k|a> you buy and get free stickers?
[12:57] <Stormx2> You don't have to pay any money
[12:57] <Stormx2> they send em to you for free
[12:58] <Stormx2> because our millionaire cosmonaut overlord commands them too.
[12:58] <stelki> And to be precise, its a menu entry from transgaming cedega
[12:58] <Gareth1> and the stickers are $3.5 each on the store
[12:58] <Stormx2> Haha really?
[12:58] <Gareth1> yep http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop/
[12:58] <Stormx2> Wow canonical must be making such a loss
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> stelki: You want it off the menu or off the system
[12:58] <Gareth1> are they the oval stickers Stormx2?
[12:58] <Stormx2> stelki: All I can suggest, make sure you only have one menu editor open, make sure the cedega process is fully terminated...
[12:59] <Stormx2> Gareth1: They are rectangular except one side of curved, in a semi-circle sorta fashion
[12:59] <Stormx2> And I got 12!
[12:59] <Stormx2> Im gonna stick them on stuff
[12:59] <Stormx2> and people..
[12:59] <Gareth1> wow, not bad number
[12:59] <Gareth1> I've been looking for stickers for my laptop
[12:59] <stelki> Jack_Sparrow: off the menu only
[12:59] <gnomefreak> Gareth1: no they are rectangle
[01:00] <Stormx2> they're not your usual small stickers tho
[01:00] <Gareth1> ah gotcha
[01:00] <Stormx2> these are biggens'
[01:00] <Gareth1> yeah, the store says 5 inch x 3 inch
[01:00] <stelki> Stormx2: yea, tried all that stuff :/
[01:00] <Stormx2> stelki: Kill X and log back in?
[01:00] <amortvigil> how to delete a map?
[01:00] <Stormx2> amortvigil: a... map?
[01:00] <amortvigil> how to delete a directory?
[01:00] <amortvigil> sorry:)
[01:01] <Stormx2> amortvigil: rmdir
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> stelki: Like storm said earlier, same advice I would give..
[01:01] <PFA> how big should ubuntu be after install?
[01:01] <Stormx2> amortvigil: or, if its not empty, rm -rf
[01:01] <stelki> Stormx2: did a whole pc restart earlier (to change a few fans), but the problem persists
[01:01] <Stormx2> stelki: I really don't know. Perhaps ask in #gnome ?
[01:02] <Stormx2> this is neat
[01:02] <Gareth1> PFA, for a standard ubuntu install, everything normally takes up about 2 gigs of space
[01:02] <Stormx2> theres only like 4 of us here
[01:02] <PFA> Gareth1: thanks
[01:02] <Stormx2> its cool and a lot less hectic than normal
[01:02] <Gareth1> although if you are really concerned with disk space, go for xubuntu (doesn't come with all the stuff that ubuntu comes with)
[01:02] <stelki> Stormx2: I will try, thanks
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> stelki: When you uncheck the box for it it comes back?
[01:03] <stelki> Jack_Sparrow: yep, first time I uncheck it it comes back, then when I uncheck again it doesnt, but the entry is still there
[01:03] <stelki> Jack_Sparrow: and its checked when I start alacarte again
[01:03] <Stormx2> stelki: So delete it?
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> stelki:  I wonder if gksudo alacarte would give the permission to do it
[01:04] <stelki> Stormx2: delete option blanked out
[01:04] <stelki> Jack_Sparrow: oh will just try that, did a sudo alacarte earlier though
[01:04] <moparfan90> im trying to install cedega and it says i need xlibs.. and there no package for it.. what should i do?
[01:04] <stelki> bleh, same result
[01:05] <Stormx2> stelki: Try #gnome
[01:05] <stelki> alright off I go then
[01:05] <Stormx2> moparfan90: May be something like libx, use your imagination
[01:05] <Stormx2> stelki: Sorry for not being able to help :(
[01:05] <moparfan90> i think theres  a .deb file online somewhere but i cant find it
[01:05] <moparfan90> anyone know where
[01:06] <Luke-b> Hi, I have installed CentOS on my computer, and now I want to install Ubuntu aswell. Can I use the same swap space partition for both OSs?
[01:06] <stelki> Stormx2: ahh its ok, I've been fooling around with it for some time without being able to do it myself too, google didnt really show anything either
[01:06] <Stormx2> moparfan90: Maybe theres a howto/wiki on cedega?
[01:06] <hyphenated> Luke-b: of course. only one of them is going to be running at any one time, so it's not going to matter
[01:06] <moparfan90> ill look
[01:07] <Luke-b> hyphenated: thanks
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> stelki: Does sudo still show the remove button as grey
[01:07] <Luke-b> Also, how do you recommend I re-partition my drive? I don't want to risk losing all my stuff
[01:07] <Stormx2> moparfan90: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[01:07] <hyphenated> Luke-b: carefully ;-)
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Luke-b: No repartitioning is risk free in Linux or Windows
[01:07] <dli> Luke-b, better backup
[01:08] <Gareth1> Luke-b, back up to another drive
[01:08] <Luke-b> I will backup :) but how should I go about doing it after that?
[01:08] <Stormx2> Luke-b: whatever happens, don't back up.
[01:08] <Gareth1> do you have a separate partition for /home?
[01:08] <Stormx2> Yeah I do.
[01:08] <Gareth1> yeah, good idea Stormx2
[01:08] <Luke-b> no
[01:08] <Stormx2> gives the pr0n room to breathe.
[01:08] <stelki> Jack_Sparrow: yip
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> How do you force Ubuntu to use /home on a different partition? Does it need to be ext2,3 or reisf
[01:09] <Stormx2> I use ext3
[01:09] <Stormx2> and you just mount it
[01:09] <Gareth1> it's just in your fstab
[01:09] <dli> Jack_Sparrow, /etc/fstab
[01:09] <Stormx2> You do it in the installer...
[01:09] <Gareth1> I'm using reiserfs for my /home, but I imagine any recognizable filesystem would do
[01:10] <Stormx2> Anything yeah.
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> I have been copying it to another partition, but having it use the other partition would be better
[01:10] <Stormx2> Best not use FAT though ;)
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> dli:  what would I put in my fstab?
[01:10] <Gareth1> say, is grub still limited to ext* partitions?
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> DOnt think so
[01:11] <dli> Jack_Sparrow, follow other entries there, make an entry for /home
[01:11] <Stormx2> My setup is like this: 20gb HDD. 10gb "Stuff" (documents and such) 10gb Windows XP. 80gb HDD. 63.5gb "Music", 11gb /, 5gb /home, 1.5gb swap
[01:12] <dli> Gareth1, no, you can use reiserfs, jfs, xfs, ufs2, ffs, even fat for grub
[01:12] <Stormx2> I'll need a new HDD for music soon >.<
[01:12] <Gareth1> ah, thanks dli
[01:12] <Gareth1> hm, should I take the risk of redoing my /boot?
[01:12] <Torfinn> 'sudo apt-get install lyx' # give error 2 because of said corrupted package. Q: Does 'sudo apt-get clean lyx' prepare for new download and install?
[01:13] <Stormx2> I guess ;-)
[01:13] <Gareth1> Stormx2, there are plenty of places selling some nice 250 gb hard drives for ~100 dollars
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> dli: thanks, I will mess with that tomorrow... Thanks to all here for the help...
[01:13] <compengi> how to number my pages in office writer?
[01:13] <Stormx2> Thats alright!
[01:13] <Stormx2> :)
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> I'm calling it a day.. for now
[01:13] <Stormx2> I can start ripping in FLAC again haha...
[01:13] <Stormx2> I'm gonna be off too.
[01:15] <compengi> how to number my pages in open office word processor?
[01:19] <useename> hi compengi, you probably want to edit the footer/header
[01:20] <compengi> useename, yeah i want to add a page number at the end of the page
[01:20] <goubuntu> !dma
[01:20] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[01:20] <useename> actually, it's in Insert -> Fields
[01:21] <docko> can anyone help me? i'd like to make a mailserver for my local network - something that would collect all emails and computers on local network should read emails via IMAP... how to do it?
[01:22] <ppcguy> hey all borked my xserv again..
[01:23] <ppcguy> know it's dkpg something to get it back to don't remember the exact command off the top of me head
[01:23] <ppcguy> any help?
[01:23] <ppcguy> ah should mention I'm running dapper
[01:24] <spades> ppcguy to reconfig xserver?
[01:24] <spades> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[01:24] <stefan_> no
[01:25] <useename> docko: you can read up on exim and postfix
[01:25] <useename> i think those programs are mail software
[01:25] <zim> hi all what is the super button ???
[01:26] <useename> zim: it turns on the HyperVapor in your CPU
[01:26] <useename> :)
[01:26] <XVampireX> zim: it's the winkey
[01:27] <zim> ty
[01:27] <useename> wait, there's really a "super" key?  in what context?
[01:30] <Gareth1> useename, it's the windows key
[01:30] <gnomefreak> useename: the super key is the windows key
[01:30] <gnomefreak> or meta key
[01:30] <J_P> hi all
[01:31] <Phoul> Hello. Im re-installing ubuntu and im wondering which iso i need. when i had breezy i only had one option and now theres 3. I use my computer as a desktop system . Would i get the desktop cd?
[01:31] <Phoul> Im just not used to ubuntu ever having a livecd that your soposed to install off of hehe
[01:33] <useename> you want the desktop cd if you're installing from scratch and not upgrading
[01:33] <Expect> linux-pt
[01:33] <Phoul> okay well im installing over genpoo
[01:33] <cyphase> Not that I usually read Foxnews, but.. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,201765,00.html
[01:37] <oneeyedelf1> is there any way to increase ubuntu's startup
[01:37] <Hexidigital_> oneeyedelf1:: you can try using hybernate, depending on your system
[01:37] <livingdaylight> hi, How does one detect hardware?
[01:37] <boricua> i see that ubuntu apache localhost  shows a directory of apache2-default while apache2-default shows the initial page saying the server was setup correctly, is this correct of did the set up miss something?
[01:37] <livingdaylight> How can i check what the computer says my dvd writer is?
[01:38] <jbaloul> hi, anyone have MAXSOCKS problems with vncserver on amd64 ?
[01:38] <Bot_Builder> Hey, anyone know of a good source for info on ubuntu's fstab? I want to know about the options like errors=remount-ro,utf,umask=007,gid=46
[01:38] <oneeyedelf1> Hexidigital_: hibernate doesnt work on my system
[01:38] <Hexidigital_> boricua:: when you put an .html file in your /var/www,  the .html file will be the default
[01:38] <Hexidigital_> oneeyedelf1:: mine either :(
[01:38] <J_P> hey all, I am compiling kernel, I compile the kernel and install ok, but I try install second compiled kernel but the new kernel try create same name in /lib/modules/... But In kernel package I specific diferent argument in --revision : root@concord:/usr/src# make-kpkg --revision=test.1.0 kernel-image.
[01:38] <J_P> So, I have this kernel do install via dpkg -i : kernel-image-2.6.15.7-ubuntu1_normal.kernel.conf.p4.6.7.3_i386.deb and kernel-image-2.6.15.7-ubuntu1_p4.6.7.3_i386.deb. But first kernel create dir /lib/modules/2.6.15.7-ubuntu1/ and when i try install second kernel ubuntu show error for me that dir /lib/modules/2.6.15.7-ubuntu1/ already exist. Why if my argumtn in --revision when compile is diferent ?
[01:39] <_nano_> Hi, filesystem of / shows 0.6% non-contiguous blocks...what does this mean?
[01:40] <_nano_> *filesystem check
[01:40] <Bot_Builder> _nano_ - that means those sections are fragmented, no big deal really
[01:40] <Bot_Builder> just when that number gets bigger you might want to defragment
[01:40] <_nano_> Bot_Builder, is there anyway to defragment?
[01:40] <Bot_Builder> yep
[01:40] <_nano_> Bot_Builder, how?
[01:40] <hyphenated> _nano_: yes, but it's generally not necessary (it's done automagically for most filesystems)
[01:41] <_nano_> hyphenated, ah ok...so i guess i don't have to worry about it
[01:41] <Bot_Builder> yeah, I wouldn't
[01:41] <Bot_Builder> .6% is tiny
[01:41] <hyphenated> _nano_: as Bot_Builder said, it's "no big deal"
[01:41] <Bot_Builder> I think I'm at like 2%, and thats still tiny :P
[01:41] <Hexidigital_> boricua:: you there?
[01:41] <_nano_> I have another question...ubuntu by default installed as ext3 ...there are others like reiserfs etc...which one's the best?
[01:42] <bit_doidao> Hello all! does anyone had succes in syncing palm zire 72 in ubuntu? This is my last issue for my perfect desktop
[01:42] <Hexidigital_> boricua:: make a test page <html><body>test</body></html> and name it index.html, then reload the page
[01:42] <oneeyedelf1> so is there any way other than using hibernate to decrease my startup times
[01:42] <hyphenated> _nano_: even if it were horrendously fragmented, it's not going to matter, because performance doesn't degrade on ext3 the same way it does with fat32 (a windows filesystem). and the files that _do_ get used often will have automagically been defragmented as well.
[01:42] <Bot_Builder> _nano_: Nothing is really best - some are good in some areas, some are better in others.  Ext3 is plenty good though
[01:42] <cyberite> hi, i'm running Amarok 1.4 (from the dapper repo's) - but when I run the first run wizard and add the directory that contains my music, nothing shows up in my collcetion. Has anybody seen this?
[01:43] <_nano_> hyphenated, Bot_Builder, many many thanks  :)
[01:43] <hyphenated> cyberite: I've only seen that for files that weren't tagged properly
[01:43] <lefty> hey will ubuntu run ok on my old powerbook g3?
[01:43] <FCTE> Amarok is tricky, I just messed with it enough until it started evntually working right
[01:43] <oneeyedelf1> cyberite: did yuo wait for it to finish building your catalog
[01:43] <cyberite> yes, the window showed 100%
[01:44] <Bot_Builder> _nano_: no problem :)
[01:44] <livingdaylight> Is there any specific way dvd witers need to be configured that i should know about?
[01:44] <cyberite> hyphenated, yes, some of them might be improperly tagged
[01:44] <spikeb> eh, the kde packages are kind of unstable for me
[01:44] <livingdaylight> k3b says it can write, but i've tried to burn dvd .iso and yet it says it is blank
[01:45] <hyphenated> livingdaylight: after going into the menu and choosing Tools -> Burn DVD ISO Image ?
[01:47] <hyphenated> livingdaylight: have you previously gone to Settings -> K3b Setup ?
[01:47] <livingdaylight> hyphenated: yea, did that and burnt the iso ; but it shows up as empty  - i'm trying again now
[01:48] <livingdaylight> hyphenated: went to Settings -> configure k3b , and under device it confirms that it has picked up the new dvd writer i just bought
[01:48] <boricua> Hexidigital_:sorry i am here
[01:49] <hyphenated> livingdaylight: the other one (K3b setup) checks/changes permissions of a bunch of things if they are set incorrectly
[01:49] <livingdaylight> what am i looking for?
[01:49] <boricua> Hexidigital_:thxs
[01:49] <FCTE> Anyone running xgl/compiz?
[01:49] <SonicChao> My video card isn't working, it's a Mobile Intel 915GM Express Chipset
[01:50] <SonicChao> Can someone help?
[01:50] <lefty> xubuntu or ubuntu on powerbookg3?
[01:50] <lefty> any suggestions?
[01:50] <SonicChao> lefty: Ubuntu
[01:50] <Usunny> FCTE thers a #xgl channel
[01:50] <FCTE> Ubuntu is better IMHO
[01:51] <FCTE> sweet thanks
[01:51] <lefty> will it be slow with 333mhz processor though
[01:51] <SonicChao> Can somoene help me?
[01:51] <Comrade_S> hi sonic
[01:51] <Comrade_S> what do you need
[01:51] <SonicChao> Comrade_S!
[01:51] <SonicChao> What a pleasant surprise!
[01:51] <wweasel> To those of you who use a VNC client in Ubuntu, what client do you recommend?
[01:51] <Comrade_S> hi sonic
[01:51] <SonicChao> Comrade_S: My video card isn't working, it's a Mobile Intel 915GM Express Chipset
[01:52] <SonicChao> Ubuntu 6.06
[01:52] <Frederick> cant I use lex and yacc on ubuntu?
[01:52] <Comrade_S> SonicChao: I cant help you with that unfortunately.Not my expertise
[01:54] <erUSUL> Frederick: sure why not?
[01:54] <Frederick> erUSUL, couldnt find the packages
[01:54] <Frederick> I know there is byson and flex
[01:55] <livingdaylight> hyphenated: in k3b setup ; how should things be?
[01:56] <livingdaylight> hyphenated: ?
[01:56] <hyphenated> livingdaylight: it should load up stuff about 'Settings', 'Devices' and 'External Programs'
[01:57] <livingdaylight> hyphenated: yea..no, how should they be setup?
[01:57] <livingdaylight> hyphenated: its there; but  i dont know if it is right or wrong
[01:57] <wweasel> To those of you who use a VNC client in Ubuntu, what client do you recommend?
[01:57] <livingdaylight> hyphenated: k3b again burnt a blank dvd
[01:57] <erUSUL> Frederick: then you will have to get the source and compile it... i'm afraid
[01:57] <hyphenated> livingdaylight: it's showing you 'how things should be'. is "Apply" clickable or disabled?
[01:58] <livingdaylight> hyphenated: its disabled
[01:58] <bimberi> wweasel: i use the one shipped (xvncviewer) via Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client
[01:59] <livingdaylight> hyphenated: un-clickable
[01:59] <hyphenated> so it does a complete burn with no errors, and it still appears blank to you when it's done?
[01:59] <riddlebox> I need to enable a script in /etc/init.d how would I do that?
[02:00] <livingdaylight> hyphenated: thats about it
[02:00] <loderunner> what would/could 'tracer' refer to other than traceroute?
[02:00] <wweasel> biberi: oh, cool, I didn't know it shipped with one.
[02:00] <bimberi> wweasel: :)
[02:00] <hyphenated> livingdaylight: I'd use google to find out if other people have complained about that drive in linux
[02:00] <livingdaylight> hyphenated: ok, a project for tomorrow then
[02:01] <bimberi> riddlebox: use the update-rc.d command for that, you'll need to consult the man page for how to run it
[02:01] <Glassius> i'm trying to get frequency scaling to work properly on my pentium-m, but for some reasons there only seems to be two available steps, 600mhz and 1,5ghz...any idea on how to get the other steps working?
[02:01] <Glassius> "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies" returns "1500000 600000", the same does cpufreq-info
[02:01] <riddlebox> thanks
[02:01] <Consty> Anyone know why xmame's package is broken?  I have the binary nvidia drivers installed and working and I can't get xmame to work with GL.. saying libGL.so is not found.
[02:02] <byen> hey guys i have a quick question: I did a sudo shutdown -h +60 and now i have to undo it. how can i do that via the terminal
[02:04] <Comrade_S> byen: sudi shurtdown -c
[02:04] <Comrade_S> byen: sudoshurtdown -c
[02:04] <Comrade_S> ahh
[02:04] <byen> thanks Comrade_S  :P
[02:04] <Comrade_S> byen: sudo shutdown -c
[02:04] <byen> you saved my butt :P
[02:04] <Comrade_S> np
[02:04] <byen> lol.. shurtdown? :D
[02:04] <Comrade_S> lol
[02:04] <spikeb> yay shurtdown
[02:04] <Glassius> man shutdown is your friend :P
[02:04] <jason_> I'm getting "not authenticated" messages in synaptic
[02:05] <byen> that would stop any sudo shutdown -h process Comrade_S ?
[02:05] <Comrade_S> yes
[02:05] <byen> kool. thanks mate
[02:06] <J_P> hey all, I am compiling kernel, I compile the kernel and install ok, but I try install second compiled kernel but the new kernel try create same name in /lib/modules/... But In kernel package I specific diferent argument in --revision : root@concord:/usr/src# make-kpkg --revision=test.1.0 kernel-image.
[02:06] <J_P> So, I have this kernel do install via dpkg -i : kernel-image-2.6.15.7-ubuntu1_normal.kernel.conf.p4.6.7.3_i386.deb and kernel-image-2.6.15.7-ubuntu1_p4.6.7.3_i386.deb. But first kernel create dir /lib/modules/2.6.15.7-ubuntu1/ and when i try install second kernel ubuntu show error for me that dir /lib/modules/2.6.15.7-ubuntu1/ already exist. Why if my argumtn in --revision when compile is diferent ?
[02:06] <m_tadeu> hi everyone....if iptables -L is empty, means that the firewall is not filtering anything, right?
[02:06] <jason_> is there a gpg key for backports?
[02:07] <wweasel> I have a question, and it seems really stupid considering I've been using Ubuntu for a few months now. What about defragging?
[02:07] <zerby_> no defragging for linux
[02:08] <Frederick> wweasel, this is a windows issue
[02:08] <Frederick> fschk
[02:08] <wweasel> So Linux disks don't become fragmented?
[02:08] <zerby_> right
[02:09] <jason_> wweasel, ext2/ext3 are designed not to be
[02:09] <wweasel> Cool. That's good to know.
[02:09] <jason_> but there are tools to do it if you really want to
[02:09] <J_P> anyone can help me with kernel-package ?
[02:09] <zerby_> next question: virusses ?
[02:10] <m_tadeu> lolol don't forget about adwares
[02:10] <zerby_> yes yes adwares
[02:10] <Glassius> what about registry clean-up?
[02:11] <zerby_> what about windows
[02:11] <Gareth1> don't forget to make sure you have a genuine copy, to "protect" you from piracy
[02:11] <zerby_> oh yeeeesssss
[02:11] <zerby_> licensies
[02:11] <m_tadeu> never, but never use a key generator
[02:11] <Bot_Builder> hmm, mounting a partition into a folder in my home dir isn't working so well
[02:12] <Glassius> can i run WGA in wine? :P
[02:12] <Gareth1> haha Glassius
[02:12] <Bot_Builder> I get 'Error "Not on the same filesystem" while deleting'
[02:12] <Glassius> i'm wondering if i have a pirated version of kubuntu
[02:12] <Bot_Builder> when i try to delete something in it
[02:13] <zerby_> lol
[02:13] <Bot_Builder> Glassius - lol, is there such a thing
[02:13] <zerby_> wow illegal copie of ubuntu!!??
[02:13] <Glassius> actually, that would be a fun project, getting wga running in wine...wonder what it would think :P
[02:14] <rackerz> hello?
[02:14] <wweasel> Glassius: I think I've read about people doing crazy stuff like that.
[02:14] <rackerz> can someone help me get my webcam working when i start up ubuntu?
[02:15] <docta_v> does anyone here know a fair amount about spf (sender policy framework)
[02:15] <docta_v> would appreciate a msg if you can help me interpret some spf records
[02:16] <socket7> hello
[02:16] <zerby_> lo
[02:16] <socket7> Can anyone help me get udev to see the CD-rom drive in my laptop as a hot swap device
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> howdy
[02:20] <socket7> Has anyone here ever configured udev by hand?
[02:21] <farky> Can someone help me with setting up my sata drive?
[02:21] <J_P> Are there one doc to compile kernel one ubuntu using kernel-package ?
[02:21] <Bot_Builder> hmm, can i make a symbolic link to a folder?
[02:22] <hyphenated> Bot_Builder: sure
[02:22] <Bot_Builder> coolio
[02:23] <bimberi> J_P: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:23] <Bot_Builder> none of the docs i looked at specifically said you could do folders
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> farky,  give a few more details as to what you are wanting to do
[02:23] <socket7> 725 people and nobody has any idea of how to configure udev by hand?
[02:24] <farky> Dr_Willies: mainly, I cannot get the text installer to start the partitioner because it is not detecting my drive
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> socket7,  whats to config. :P its got its files in /etc/udev/  go forit!@
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> farky,  hmm..  could try the live cd and see if it sees the drive
[02:25] <socket7> Dr_Willis. So you have no idea then.
[02:25] <F0LL0W3R> how to configure out the modem properties for HSP56 mr via to get the connection workin ?
[02:25] <farky> Dr_Willis: well I have another problem there, the Live CD does not detect my mouse. I have tried three different mice: PS/2 and USB
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> socket7,  i would guess the udev homepage would be where to start. :) as you hopefully await a response here.
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> farky,  now thats odd.  this a desktop machine? or laptop?
[02:26] <farky> Dr_Willis: desktop
[02:26] <hussam> will edgy eft contain xorg 7.1?
[02:26] <spikeb> hussam: yes
[02:26] <hussam> or is too late for that?
[02:27] <hussam> spikeb: ah ok good
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> farky,  hmm.. could try some other live cd.. but the hw detection in the ubuntu live seemed quite good last i tried it.
[02:27] <Samus_Aran> can anyone suggest why I might be getting "fork resource unavailable" when I have 1.25 GiB RAM, only 170 processes and ulimit shows "unlimited" ?  top shows half a gig of cache used and 50 MiB RAM free
[02:27] <farky> Dr_Willis: I have tried the slax series of live cd's also, but same problem
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> farky,  that almost sounds like some odd motherboard/bios issue then.
[02:28] <F0LL0W3R> any1 would help me abt the modem properties to configure out the problem to bel solved ^_^
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> farky,  may want to google for your exact machine and see if any othe rlinux users have had issues like that.
[02:28] <farky> Dr_Willis: ok I will try that, thanks
[02:29] <witless> hi. when playing a dvd in ubuntu, does it bypass regional encoding?
[02:29] <socket7> Dr_Willis, I'm sorry you've proven my theory once again.
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> socket7,  sure whatever...
[02:29] <GrubChub> is there a default username/password for phpmyadmin when you install it through apt?
[02:29] <socket7> Linux users are assholes :D
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> farky,  you could see what exact x config is being generated. and see if the dev is matching up.
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> socket7,  yea sure... whatever.
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:30] <GrubChub> bah some of the guys I work with are :p
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> ya missed the fun earlier today.
[02:30] <GrubChub> I hate it when they are zealots about the OS
[02:30] <GrubChub> :) I think it's an awesome os
[02:30] <Frederick> can I get flash 8 for linux?
[02:30] <GrubChub> but some subscribe to it like a religon :-|
[02:31] <rsk> Frederick no
[02:31] <Frederick> great =/
[02:31] <farky> Dr_Willis: maybe upgrade my bios? I just read that some guy had the same problem with the hard disk and he just upgraded the bios and it worked fine
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> GrubChub,  heh - its a tool. and all tools have limitations and take efforts to learn.
[02:31] <GrubChub> That's not the point i'm arguing at all
[02:31] <GrubChub> I understand that completely
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> farky,  i had linux issues in the past that there fixed by bios updates.  so if there is a bios update - id be sure to try it
[02:31] <GrubChub> you guys are extremely helpful here
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> GrubChub,  :P
[02:32] <farky> Dr_Willis: ok thanks
[02:32] <GrubChub> there are some linux users are like... look me not in the eye foul swine! you have the stench of microsoft on you!
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> My laptop was usless under linu untill i updated its bios
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> GrubChub,  thats #debian :P
[02:32] <GrubChub> hehehe
[02:32] <ssuehr> hey now
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> Heh heh that woke them up!
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. i just noticed that under kde i got a battery gague and cpu speed  applet.. wonder where a similer thing is for gnome.
[02:36] <Comrade_S> Dr_Willis: gDesklets
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> socket7,  i just noticed several hotswap packages for ide devices under synaptic :)
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> Comrade_S, yea - i lperfer the panel applets myself.
[02:37] <socket7> I already used apt to install hotswap.
[02:37] <Comrade_S> Dr_Willis: ok,np
[02:37] <skavenge> trying to install on an old desktop machine now, after, 'mounting root filesystem' i get hdb: timeout waiting for dma , then hdb: not ready for command or something like that, then it just does i/o errors on the drive over and over till i reboot .. anyone seen this? im not coming up with much on google ..
[02:38] <ssuehr> have you tried booting with  'ide=nodma'?
[02:38] <dtsuei> just a quick quesiton, wut's the keyboard shortcut to switch to 2nd, 3rd, and 4th desktop in ghome?
[02:38] <dtsuei> gnome*
[02:39] <J_P> bimberi: thanks! :-)
[02:39] <skavenge> ssuehr: ill give that a try, didnt see it on the boot options on the disc just tried acpi=off
[02:40] <ssuehr> skavenge, when i've had similar problems it's been indicative of a hard drive going bad.
[02:40] <skavenge> ssuehr: hdb's the cdrom so maybe thats dying
[02:41] <spades> you have your cdrom on the same channel as harddrive/
[02:41] <skavenge> hda's the harddrive .. yes i might spades dunno for sure
[02:41] <bimberi> J_P: yw :)
[02:41] <socket7> Dr_Willis, All those hotswap utilities in synaptic do not work. I've tried them already. I've read their manuals too.
[02:41] <kordo> hi
[02:41] <ssuehr> skavenge:  does this help?  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-9914.html
[02:42] <kordo> i dont think so
[02:42] <skavenge> ssuehr: taking a look now
[02:42] <kordo> any1 knows how to install anything?
[02:43] <spades> skavenge if im not mistaken, it will only go as fast as the slowest thing which is your cdrom, maybe put that on secondary and it will be hdc and it wont slow down your harddrive
[02:43] <skavenge> hmm ill have to pull the side off it and see
[02:43] <kordo> Linux only make me angry
[02:49] <skavenge> its kind of a pain cause there is no internet on it right now so i cant paste errors etc
[02:49] <kordo> but i hate when someone tell me to go to windows
[02:49] <GrubChub> go to windows!
[02:49] <kordo> just need a help
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install mc     (will install the program mc)
[02:49] <GrubChub> fine
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> as an example
[02:49] <GrubChub> go to beos :p
[02:49] <kordo> here again
[02:49] <GrubChub> ;) :p sorry
[02:49] <kordo> another 1
[02:49] <GrubChub> just fooling around
[02:49] <spades> skavenge im not referring to errors, just general usage to keep them on different channels
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop               will install the whole xubuntu-desktop set of packagtes as another example.
[02:49] <skavenge> kinda funny no hiccups on my laptop with the dapper livecd but the desktop cries heh
[02:49] <Ghost_Printer> kordo stop trying to use Linux like Windows and you will have an easier time
[02:49] <kordo> not that understand anything
[02:49] <kordo> well,i only try to get some help
[02:49] <kordo> but everyone says only if u dont understand go to windows
[02:49] <spikeb> that's not good :(
[02:49] <Ghost_Printer> help with what Kordo ?
[02:49] <kordo> with Linux
[02:49] <kordo> with installing programs
[02:49] <Ghost_Printer> which program?
[02:49] <kordo> i downloaded valknut
[02:49] <kordo> but i don't know how to install
[02:49] <Meshyf> Can someone give me a little advice, on how well Ubuntu would run on a Dell 3800?
[02:49] <Ghost_Printer> brb
[02:49] <Usunny> kordo so your stuck with a .rpm ?
[02:49] <skavenge> ooh i think the ide=nodma got it through the error .. obviously have to fix that later if i can
[02:49] <socket7> Meshyf, It will run perfectly assuming you have enough spare time in your life to devote to beating it into submission.
[02:49] <flyinprogramer> sundude90
[02:49] <kordo> yes,rpm
[02:49] <James_> hi
[02:49] <Usunny> well, then
[02:49] <ssuehr> you can skavenge, to make it permanent.
[02:49] <flyinprogramer> sundude90 needs help with modem drivers
[02:49] <Usunny> !rpm
[02:49] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[02:49] <Meshyf> Socket7: Really that bad?
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> !info valknut
[02:49] <ubotu> valknut: graphical client for Direct Connect. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.3.7-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 863 kB, installed size 3044 kB
[02:49] <vbgunz> kordo: sudo apt-get valknut first!
[02:49] <skavenge> ssuehr: well hopefully i can fix whatever it is, not having dma for my drives would make it slow
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  he needs to set up the right repos first
[02:49] <socket7> Meshyf Thats linux in general. If you have weird hardware, it gets even wrose.
[02:49] <socket7> worse.
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> done he? or is uni the default.. i forget.
[02:49] <kordo> sudo apt-get valknut?
[02:49] <Usunny> yes, in console
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install PackageName
[02:49] <sundude90> I want to conect my computer to the internet using dialup.  I have ubuntu
[02:49] <vbgunz> kordo: thats all you need if you have the right repos in your sources.list
[02:49] <kordo> what is this,and what is console?
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> ya frogot the install  part.
[02:49] <Usunny> O_o
[02:49] <Meshyf> socket7: I've installed ubuntu on some funky stuff and it ran fine but never tried a laptop so I was just curious/
[02:49] <Usunny> you shold read a manual ^^
[02:49] <James_> im having a really annoying problem, where my recent install wont boot, in 'normal' mode, it stops on the step "uncompressing linux...booting the kernel", and in recovery mode, it stops on "acpi: looking for dsdt...not found". All i did to break it was change my xorg.conf file
[02:49] <arapehl> I can't get my CD-ROM and CD-RW drives to mount... I can see them, but I can't get them working. Any ideas?
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> !cli
[02:49] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:50] <flyinprogramer> sundude90 i would suggest telling what kind of modem you have, a.k.a copy paste the lspci line of your modem card
[02:50] <James_> doesnt boot with the dapper or hoary live cds either
[02:50] <sundude90> flyinprogramer   help me allen
[02:50] <Ackeubu_> you guys i am looking for the export_divx4.so object, in what package can i find it?
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> console/terminal/command line interface = where you type in commands
[02:50] <socket7> Meshyf, laptops usually fail to suspend and or hibernate, show incorrect screen resolutions, or hot swap bays wont work correctly.
[02:50] <someoneuseless> @James: use a live linux from cd and repair your file
[02:51] <socket7> in the case of my laptop, all 3 are true
[02:51] <arapehl> I can't get my CD-ROM and CD-RW drives to mount... I can see them, but I can't get them working. Any ideas?
[02:51] <Meshyf> Socket7: Ah aight, thanks.
[02:51] <sundude90> fly  can I copy and paste here or npt
[02:51] <kordo> applications-accesoires does not have a terminal
[02:51] <James_> i tried to, changed it back to the old one and it still doesnt work. Also tried booting from the hoary live cd/dapper install cd and neither will boot. Knoppix and DSL seem to work though
[02:51] <flyinprogramer> does anyone know if you can use the x.org config file that ubuntu uses with gentoo?? because unbuntu supports my 1280x8000 res, and gentoo won't.....easily, and i was wondering if one could just copy the xorgconf file to my gentoo system to get it to work
[02:52] <kordo> system does not have a console
[02:52] <sundude90> flyinprogramer how do I copy and paste
[02:52] <flyinprogramer> sundude90 you have the screen, just type it word for word
[02:53] <Amaranth> kordo: what is the problem?
[02:53] <whitehorseNtiger> I see some cluster stuff in synaptic.  Does anyone have a ubuntu cluster up and runner?   What should I install?
[02:53] <Amaranth> !cluster
[02:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about cluster
[02:53] <Amaranth> hrm
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> i really think they need to put a terminal icon on the panel by default :P
[02:54] <kordo> the problem is how to install dc++ client
[02:54] <kordo> or codecks for playing avi files
[02:54] <arapehl> 725 ppl in the channel and nobody knows how to get my CD-ROM and CD-RW drives to work? :-) C'mon guys, I've gotten so much help here in the past! :-)
[02:54] <kordo> or anything like it in Linux
[02:54] <Amaranth> !avi
[02:54] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:54] <whitehorseNtiger> what is "!cluster"?
[02:54] <Amaranth> whitehorseNtiger: nothing
[02:54] <whitehorseNtiger> ok
[02:55] <someoneuseless> !cluster
[02:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about cluster
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> arapehl,  you see them but cant access them once they are mounted you are saying?
[02:55] <sundude90> ok alllen
[02:55] <flyinprogramer> my name keeps getting longer
[02:56] <arapehl> Dr_Willis: It's weird, they show up in my Computer File Browser but when I try to read a disk it gives me errors... the latest (from the CD-ROM) is wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb,
[02:56] <arapehl>        missing codepage or other error
[02:56] <arapehl>        in some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[02:56] <arapehl>        dmesg | tail  or so
[02:56] <sundude90>  I have a Conexant HSF 56k Data/ Fax modem
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> arapehl,  thats a genric mount failed error.
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> sounds like.
[02:56] <skavenge> i have to do ide=nodma to boot the livecd, should I do anything to setup for this before I 'install' so it will boot once its booting from the harddisk?
[02:56] <Amaranth> whitehorseNtiger: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuOnCluster
[02:56] <snoops> kordo there's a few dc clinets to choose from
[02:57] <snoops> kordo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_connect_file-sharing_application#Linux.2FUnix
[02:57] <arapehl> Dr_Willis: the funny thing is, I'm using the Ubuntu boot CD I used to install the system in the first place :)
[02:57] <sundude90> I need to know how to add that driver to a ubuntu computer
[02:57] <Amaranth> sundude90: you have to pay some jerks to get a driver for that
[02:57] <sundude90> Amaranth   i do
[02:58] <someoneuseless> how do you leave a manual opened with eg. $man gcc
[02:58] <Amaranth> sundude90: http://linmodems.org/
[02:58] <sundude90> Is there a download site for it or something
[02:59] <Amaranth> sundude90: You have to buy it.
[02:59] <kordo> http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/breezy-i386/vlc/0.8.5-svn20060208/
[02:59] <James_> Anyone got any idea why my computer will fail to boot from the dapper install cd, stopping on the "Uncompressing Linux...booting the kernel" message?
[02:59] <kordo> do i have to download it all?
[03:00] <kordo> any1 who knows something about it?
[03:00] <James_> yet it booted fine about an hour ago when i installed dapper?
[03:00] <useename> James_ : how long did you wait?
[03:00] <James_> err
[03:00] <James_> a while
[03:00] <snoops> kordo no of course not.. just giving you an IDEA of what dc clients are around for linux
[03:00] <James_> stops at the same point when booting from the hard drive
[03:00] <sundude90> Amaranth  I have the driver in the computer but I need software to run it on linux
[03:00] <kordo> no,the link
[03:00] <kordo> http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/breezy-i386/vlc/0.8.5-svn20060208/
[03:01] <kordo> what to do here?
[03:01] <Amaranth> sundude90: You have the hardware in the computer, you have to buy the driver (software) to run it with linux.
[03:01] <snoops> do you just want vlc kordo?
[03:01] <kordo> yes
[03:01] <kordo> to play files video files
[03:01] <sundude90> ok
[03:02] <snoops> kordo either open synaptic package manager then search for vlc and choose to download it from that or type 'sudo apt-get install vlc' in terminal
[03:03] <snoops> but you really should install multimedia codecs for linux as well, eh kordo..
[03:03] <kordo> Ok,why is so difficult for elementary playing of files to do this,and i still don't understand how to do it
[03:03] <kordo> there is no terminal
[03:03] <kordo> well,i did
[03:03] <kordo> and nothing
[03:03] <kordo> still cannot play avi
[03:03] <sundude90> flyinprogramer Ineed to buy it not fair  now I am mad.  Bye see ya soon.   Have a great trip.  Thanks ofr all your help.   Friends forever.  Saty safe and good luck with ya family
[03:03] <arapehl> Uhm, what's a "sym link" and how do I make sure it's not broken on my machine?
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> applications --> accessories --> terminal is where i see  the terminal icon.
[03:03] <snoops> !restricted > kordo
[03:03] <vem0m> hehe
[03:04] <vem0m> goto run command and type konsole
[03:04] <James_> useename: I tried it again, waited for 3 minutes. Still doesnt boot
[03:04] <snoops> read the links ubotu sent you kordo
[03:04] <vem0m> should bring up terminal
[03:04] <kordo> I did
[03:04] <kordo> and it says to install vlc
[03:04] <kordo> and i dont know how
[03:04] <vem0m> goto adept and search for that or use apt-get
[03:05] <James_> !dpdt
[03:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about dpdt
[03:05] <snoops> kordo there's a lot more than just 'install vlc' in those guides, if you read them
[03:05] <GrubChub> can someone tell me how I get to IRC?
[03:05] <zcat[1] > gah! sco openserver 5. What fun!
[03:05] <vem0m> lol
[03:05] <vem0m> u are in IRC
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> or the 'applications' --> 'add/remove'  icon can let ya isntall vnc if you check the  'unsupported' check box.
[03:05] <vem0m> yep
[03:05] <GrubChub> huh?
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> oops i ment vlc
[03:05] <neighborlee> does ubuntu plan on fully supporting LSB and if so when ? ;-))
[03:05] <kordo> whatever,it's obviosly is no way to install simple program in Linux
[03:05] <arapehl> Dr_Willis: the funny thing is, I'm using the Ubuntu boot CD I used to install the system in the first place :)
[03:05] <sundude90> flyinprogramer    helo allen
[03:05] <vem0m> GrubChub: this is IRC
[03:05] <vem0m> lmfao
[03:06] <arapehl> Dr_Willis: I did a search and came up with "sym link"... could it be that they icons for the drives are reversed?
[03:06] <GrubChub> okay how do I connect to #ubuntu?
[03:06] <kordo> Just for the record-there is no VLC in synaptix
[03:06] <Usunny> you! Ogg vs mp3, hit me!
[03:06] <James_> grubchub: That's where you are now ;-)
[03:06] <zcat[1] > kordo: universe or multiverse?
[03:06] <vem0m> type /join #ubuntu
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> kordo,  takes me all of 10 sec to get the stuff installed.. add/remove programs. check that check box.. find vlc..  check it.
[03:06] <GrubChub> hehe
[03:06] <kordo> 'what is this?
[03:06] <arapehl> Dr_Willis: When I try and use the CD-ROM, the whole system just hangs until I hit a button (eject) on the drive... very, veri weird.
[03:06] <zcat[1] > !repos
[03:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:07] <GrubChub> ooooohh okay... soo how do I chat?
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> arapehl,  i agree there
[03:07] <JackDeth_> Wow! there's a lot of people here. Maybe I could get what I hope will be a simple question answered....  ;-P
[03:07] <zcat[1] > kordo: go read what ubotu said
[03:07] <arapehl> Dr_Willis: So how do I go about diagnosing and fixing they sym links? I've never done anything like that.
[03:07] <vem0m> ummmm u type thing into the box at the bottom of ur IRC program and hit enter on your keyboard
[03:07] <whitehorseNtiger> Has anyone got openMOSIX working on ubuntu?
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> arapehl,  ick. not sure where to start
[03:07] <GrubChub> oooooh
[03:07] <arapehl> Dr_Willis: Awesome! ;) j/k
[03:08] <kordo> it's only totem in add/remove
[03:08] <zcat[1] > the best way to fix ubuntu is to not break it in the first place :)
[03:08] <GrubChub> O
[03:08] <GrubChub> I've got to go to the bafroom
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> kordo,  check the unsupported check box - and the comercial check box perhaps and see if it shows up then
[03:08] <vem0m> lol i had to fix kicker earlier as i messed that up somehow lol
[03:08] <cyberslug> Is anyone here willing to assist me in setting up something to graph latency in ping.... I am having considerable difficulties with RRDTool... Are there any other options?
[03:08] <James_> hmm, my live cd still gets stuck on the "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel." stage, as does my hard drive install and a hoary live cd
[03:09] <kordo> ?where are these boxes?
[03:09] <JackDeth_> I am completely new to Linux, but have been tasked with putting together a computer for our church's gradeschool which will act as a Librarian's desk PC for their small library. I found a full featured open source library management package which sounds perfect for what we want, but it runs on Linux only.
[03:09] <vem0m> your cd sound to be corrupted
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> right in the middle of that dialog box where it shows "show unsupported applications'
[03:09] <zcat[1] > JackDeth_: koha ?
[03:10] <JackDeth_> The version it recommends include Debian and Fedora.
[03:10] <vem0m> JackDeth_: install linux
[03:10] <JackDeth_> Yes!! Koha! How did you know?
[03:10] <_nano_> !quicktime
[03:10] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:10] <James_> vem0m: me? But my hard drive installed copy fails at the same point. Could just be a coincidence i suppose
[03:10] <zcat[1] > just go ahead and install ubuntu.. it's the easiest distro
[03:10] <Usunny> you mind telling kordo that ? :>
[03:10] <kordo> i red it
[03:11] <vem0m> james it might be due to u installing from a corrupted cd or an attempt by one
[03:11] <chespirito> is there any software available for ubuntu that is similar to adobe after effects or discreet combustion?
[03:11] <kordo> and i wanted to install vls
[03:11] <kordo> but u only say read
[03:11] <JackDeth_> Well, someone told me that Ubuntu has it's roots in Debian or some such thing and I was wondering if Koha would work with it....
[03:11] <vem0m> its debian based
[03:11] <kordo> what to read,this help is for advansed users
[03:11] <vem0m> which is linux
[03:12] <vem0m> :)
[03:12] <James_> ven0m: My hard drive install did work for a while, but I edited my xorg.conf file, in a futile attempt to install XGL, and i gues i may have broken something
[03:12] <snoops> JackDeth_ yep that's correct.. like debian, ubuntu has apt, which makes things very easy :)
[03:12] <kordo> there is no help that helps new users
[03:12] <James_> ven0m: but i cant see how that would break my live cd
[03:12] <zcat[1] > hmm.. not sure there's a koha package for ubuntu.. it's not in th repos!
[03:12] <vem0m> hmmmmm i dunno
[03:13] <vem0m> try redownloading it and trying if that don't work it might be a hardware failure
[03:13] <Usunny> linux isnt like win, you need to read a few pages to get the feel for it
[03:13] <James_> ven0m: suppose i can give a new cd a try
[03:13] <zcat[1] > afk.. brb
[03:13] <boga> how do I start the sound system?
[03:13] <James_> ven0m: i'll just md5 the copy i downloaded before
[03:13] <JackDeth_> Also, I see there are two version of Ubuntu, server and workstation. Well, we only have one computer and I planned on running the koha server on it as well as allowing the librarians to access the graphical client from the same computer to check kids in and out. It sounds like the server version of Ubuntu installs many of the prerequisites for koha, but I still want all the user friendly GUI stuff too. Which version do I use?
[03:13] <vem0m> kk :)
[03:13] <snoops> kordo there is, but requires patience and getting to understand different ways of doing things.. takes a bit of time, and in my opinion is well worth it in the long run
[03:13] <kordo> well this pages are not well written
[03:13] <Usunny> !windows
[03:13] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[03:13] <Usunny> lol
[03:13] <vem0m> workstation is more for a desktop based setting
[03:14] <cyberslug> JackDeth_, In my experience, linux programs are fairly usable althroughout the distributions. The only thing that really differs is an occasional directory structure deviation. I would hate for this to be the one case out, but meh. Also - Ubuntu is very much based on Debian - so you should be fine
[03:14] <vem0m> and debian is linux
[03:14] <vem0m> hehe
[03:14] <snoops> JackDeth_ if koha is in the ubuntu repositories (I'm pretty sure it is), then you can just do from terminal "sudo apt-get install koha" or find koha in synaptic (provided you've got universal and multiverse repositories added).
[03:15] <kordo> I'm starting to hate really serious Linux
[03:15] <cyberslug> JackDeth_, Both can be updated to include exactly the same pacakges (workstation and server), and so all that differs is what is on the install cd :)
[03:15] <cyberslug> kordo: Why?
[03:15] <kordo> well,any1 read Slackware help for fdisk
[03:15] <vem0m> yea that and resouce management and usage of either
[03:15] <vem0m> i use kbuntu
[03:15] <vem0m> kubuntu*
[03:15] <kordo> doesn't even help for nothing
[03:16] <n0k|a> fdisk is usefull\
[03:16] <kordo> i didnt istall Slackware bacause of fdisk
[03:16] <kordo> only errors
[03:16] <kordo> and can't split hard drive
[03:16] <kordo> and make swap
[03:16] <BlueEagle> kordo: sure it can.
[03:16] <sundude90> bye see yall
[03:17] <vem0m> ubuntu is best and fastest easiest to learn distro i have found i have tried 4
[03:17] <cyberslug> Bye!
[03:17] <BlueEagle> vem0m: good for you! :)
[03:17] <n0k|a> kordo, try FreeBSD
[03:17] <kordo> well,it's not a help for fdisk available
[03:17] <vem0m> lol blueeagle
[03:17] <BlueEagle> kordo: just type ? or h at the prompt
[03:17] <kordo> yeah,why,to hate another OS
[03:18] <JackDeth_> Does anyone have a good resource for learning the basics of navigating Linux using command line and how the whole directory structure works in relation to, say, Windows? Any good material with frames of reference between the two?
[03:18] <kordo> just it is so easy for you sinse you are advansed users
[03:18] <n0k|a> yeah
[03:18] <sundude90> cyberslug THANKS FOR THE BYE!
[03:18] <vem0m> well i dunno but i usally find heap on goole
[03:18] <n0k|a> and how do you think I got that way
[03:18] <n0k|a> complaining?
[03:18] <bthornton> Does 'hdparm' usable with SATA drives, or just IDE?
[03:18] <vem0m> google*
[03:18] <bthornton> *Is , not "does"
[03:18] <BlueEagle> jackdeth_: Are you at all familiar with the windows command prompt?
[03:18] <n0k|a> JackDeth_, any specific questions?
[03:18] <cyberslug> sundude90, np :P
[03:18] <kordo> didnt even 1 of you had the same problems with Linux?
[03:18] <useename> JackDeth_: the *nix file system is a single tree, starting at /
[03:19] <zcat[1] > http://www.koha.rwjr.com/ -- koha for Windows :)
[03:19] <n0k|a> kordo, no problemsat all
[03:19] <sundude90> NP?
[03:19] <useename> JackDeth_: you can learn about the commands pwd, ls, dir, cd, pushd, popd, cp, mv
[03:19] <kordo> I doubt it
[03:19] <n0k|a> it's true
[03:19] <zcat[1] > .. and it's not in the ubuntu repos. I checked :( Probably not to hard to install under ubuntu though.
[03:19] <kordo> no way nobody has a problems
[03:19] <useename> JackDeth_: just type "man <command>" in your terminal
[03:19] <Usunny> kordo I don't get it. thers a perfectly fine manual, pdf, html @ ubuntu.com why not just read the damn thing?
[03:20] <n0k|a> I've installed many Linux and BSD server with fdisk, and no troubles
[03:20] <kordo> cuz it doesnt help
[03:20] <Ghost_Printer> Kordo the only problem is between your chair and your keyboard
[03:20] <Usunny> sure it does
[03:20] <] GoldenDragon> when installing pcsx through synaptec and trying to enter command "pcsx" in terminal i get the error "line 31: lndir: command not found"
[03:20] <BlueEagle> jackdeth_: http://www.freeos.com/articles/3102/ looks comprehencive.
[03:20] <Blazeix> kordo, what problems did you have?
[03:20] <Kyral> !pastebin
[03:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:20] <n0k|a> btw, with apt/synatic, is there a way to save state?
[03:21] <BlueEagle> jackdeth_: that is if you're familiar with 'cd', 'cp', 'mv' and so on and so forth. You might want to install mc to help navigate.
[03:21] <kordo> do i have to tell for 1000 time that i cant install a thing in Linux
[03:21] <n0k|a> so you save a list of all installed programs, so you can install onto other computers?
[03:21] <kordo> what u gonna tell me now
[03:21] <kordo> Go read
[03:21] <Blazeix> Sorry, I just joined. I take it you are using apt-get?
[03:21] <Usunny> find the terminal
[03:21] <n0k|a> RTFM
[03:21] <kordo> or Go to windows
[03:21] <vem0m> chill kodo
[03:21] <JackDeth_> fun
[03:21] <Usunny> wich we told you were to find a thousend times
[03:21] <vem0m> kordo*
[03:21] <zcat[1] > kordo: you got ubuntu installed, right?
[03:22] <useename> n0k|a: you can try dpkg -L
[03:22] <n0k|a> ok
[03:22] <kordo> o,yeah,that's my favorite-this terminal,like find Loch Nes monster
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> gee start him on how to launch a terminal from gnome :P
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> then work ya way up
[03:22] <n0k|a> and | "list.txt"
[03:22] <kordo> it doesnt exist
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> or you are over looking it.
[03:22] <kordo> yes,only thing i have installed
[03:22] <cyberslug> kordo, What do you mean you cannot install? Do you mean that you cannot compile, or that you cannot use the apt-get system, or what?
[03:22] <WarOfAttrition> TFMS
[03:22] <vem0m> Kordo PM
[03:22] <useename> n0k|a: you can try dpkg --get-selections
[03:23] <useename> is what I meant
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> ya could hit alt-f2 and type 'gnome-terminal'
[03:23] <kordo> i cannot get help
[03:23] <kordo> i am a new in linux
[03:23] <vem0m> talk to em in PM
[03:23] <vem0m> me*
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> You can not get a 'tutor'
[03:23] <rixth> Can I rotate my display? I have this monitor http://supportapj.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/2407WFP/GRAPHICS/monitor-base-2.gif and I want to know if Xorg can output in portrait mode
[03:23] <useename> does anyone know how to ignore a user?  I'm using Gaim
[03:23] <vem0m> block them
[03:23] <bimberi> lol useename
[03:23] <useename> rixth: look into xranr
[03:24] <useename> rixth: look into xrandr
[03:24] <useename> is what I meant
[03:24] <n0k|a> useename, goto tools, privacy
[03:24] <n0k|a> and you can block people there
[03:24] <Blazeix> Kordo, have you gone to www.ubuntuforums.org? Ubuntu has a very useful forum.
[03:24] <useename> the X resize and rotate extension, IIRC
[03:24] <rixth> useename, thanks!
[03:24] <ToHellWithGA> is there a tool to easily convert windows/dos .txt files into appropriate character encoding that a terminal can handle
[03:24] <kordo> yeah,rigth
[03:24] <snoops> kordo people are willing to teach, but you need to be patient and willing to learn new things..
[03:24] <danc3> kordo: what do you need help with?
[03:24] <useename> tools, privacy only shows my AIM account, not the IRC one
[03:24] <kordo> u can't help me in chat,what about forum
[03:25] <useename> I tried "\ignore"
[03:25] <ToHellWithGA> when i cat files with some accented characters those characters appear as 
[03:25] <useename> and "/ignore"
[03:25] <kordo> with install
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> ToHellWithGA,  dozens of them.  ya need to translate the cr/lf format of dos to just the cr format of unix.  there are (dos2unix) and (unix2dos) commands that i rember also.
[03:25] <foxiness> i want to try this " http://users.utu.fi/ljtaim/dapper-improvments.php ",but before start doing that i want to know what happen with ppl who test this stuff "thank you"
[03:25] <danc3> kordo: what do you need help with on the install?
[03:25] <ToHellWithGA> Dr_Willis: it's deeper than that
[03:25] <vem0m> in a chat with them click block at bottom o chat window
[03:25] <kordo> vlc
[03:25] <danc3> vlc?
[03:25] <vem0m> hang on
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> ToHellWithGA,  :()
[03:25] <rixth> How can I find out what my currect display is?
[03:25] <ToHellWithGA> cr/lf to cr is an easy fix i can implement in my scripts
[03:25] <kordo> valknut
[03:26] <kordo> other p2p for linux
[03:26] <danc3> kordo: if you're not going to speak in sentences I can understand, I can't help you
[03:26] <kordo> well,this is it,i dont know how to install them
[03:26] <vem0m> VLC Media Player
[03:26] <subzone> just /ignore kordo. he doesn't appreciate people here that help him.
[03:27] <vem0m> ?
[03:27] <WarOfAttrition> useename: might as well use a better irc client
[03:27] <ToHellWithGA> Dr_Willis: http://thestonepedo.pastebin.ca/78408
[03:27] <snoops> dance vlc is a media player. Kordo can't play mp3 files and videos etc.. links have been sent on setting up restricted formats.. to no avail.
[03:27] <cyberslug> kordo, What do you want to install?
[03:27] <vem0m> hmmmmmm
[03:27] <arapehl> What the heck is /dev/hdb and /dev/hdc?
[03:27] <danc3> snoops: lol, ok
[03:27] <kordo> offffffff
[03:27] <vem0m> heh i had issues with mp3
[03:27] <ToHellWithGA> arapehl: those are IDE devices
[03:27] <vem0m> i had to get the xine crap
[03:27] <cyberslug> arapehl, Do you have multiple harddrives?
[03:28] <mark_> anyone out here with wifi experience?
[03:28] <kordo> i don't know anymore,just-dc++ for linux let's say
[03:28] <arapehl> cyberslug: I've got two CD drives... a CD-ROM and a CD-RW and neither work :(
[03:28] <JackDeth_> yes
[03:28] <WarOfAttrition> get fluendo then you can play mp3, search fluendo in the packages
[03:28] <mark_> I have an iBook g4 here with a bxm4306 wifi card
[03:28] <ToHellWithGA> arapehl: i think it's part of linux's HAL to call things on your IDE buses hda hdb hdc hdd... just like my sata drives are sda sdb sdc... (which i think applies to both SATA and SCSI iirc)
[03:28] <vem0m> sudo apt-get install Programorneededfilehere
[03:28] <arapehl> cyberslug: I'm trying to debug the problem as best as a linux noob can and I've tracked down my cdrom and cdrw symlinks to those.
[03:28] <mark_> it associates with my wireless acces point
[03:29] <cyberslug> arapehl, That is strange...
[03:29] <mark_> but it refuses to get an ip
[03:29] <James_> hmm, I tried writing a new dapper cd and I still get this error where it hangs at "booting the kernel" on the live cd and installer
[03:29] <useename> Dr_Willis : yes
[03:29] <ToHellWithGA> arapehl: let's look at /media
[03:29] <cyberslug> arapehl, Do the come up in: System -> Administration -> Disks?
[03:29] <arapehl> ToHellWithGA: is it possible that for some reason something is broken in the way it identifies my drives?
[03:29] <vem0m> u sure DHCP is working mark?
[03:29] <ToHellWithGA> arapehl: ls /media/
[03:29] <useename> Dr_Willis : oh, sorry, no, probably because I have lots of repositories
[03:29] <Tommy2k4>  Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/config.inc.php on line 4
[03:29] <ToHellWithGA> which folders exist in /media?
[03:29] <arapehl> ToHellWithGA: checking
[03:29] <Tommy2k4> why would that happen when phpmyadmin works fine
[03:29] <James_> could try a new cd drive i guess, but it worked fine with knoppix/dsl
[03:30] <arapehl> ToHellWithGA: cdrom and cdrom0 (though they're both different colors)
[03:30] <mark_> vem0m, I'm quite new to wireless
[03:30] <mark_> I never needed it
[03:30] <snoops> kordo if you'd like me to private message you on a few of the basics in linux I'd be happy to?
[03:30] <vem0m> james it might be due to the kernel loading a hardware support driver and crashing due to a device problem on your end
[03:30] <arapehl> cyberslug: Uhm, what do you mean?
[03:30] <tach00> is there a channel for blag?
[03:30] <ToHellWithGA> arapehl: now look at your /etc/fstab.  "cat /etc/fstab"
[03:30] <arapehl> cyberslug: hang on checking
[03:30] <mark_> but dhcp is something I'm quite comfortable with
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> useename,  lol :P
[03:30] <James_> ven0m, ah, i see....hmm
[03:30] <vem0m> check and make sure its enable mark
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> useename,  thats what im not sure of. I was thinkign the first install - it even asked to add the other repos
[03:30] <modern> I have dapper up and running and realized that I have a non smp kernel running. When I load up a new kernel (smp) I get to the login screen and I have no mouse or keyboard control. Anyone know how to fix this?
[03:31] <vem0m> i had that problem with mandriva linux
[03:31] <mark_> vem0m, I can start a dhcp client, but it does nothing
[03:31] <ToHellWithGA> arapehl: when i do cat /etc/fstab i get (among other lines) "/dev/hdc        /media/dvdrw    udf,iso9660 user,noauto                 0   0"
[03:31] <vem0m> it failed on kernel load
[03:31] <cyberslug> arapehl, Also, you might want to do what ToHellWithGA said: ls /media ... That will show you all the directories (and files) in the folder /media
[03:31] <useename> dr_willis: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=vlc&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[03:31] <useename> vlc is in universe
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> !info vlc
[03:31] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[03:31] <vem0m> hmmmmm well that is what u need aqurie an ip thu make sure u have it pointing to right gateway
[03:31] <BlueEagle> jackdeth_: http://www.lowfatlinux.com/linux-files.html also looks useful
[03:31] <ToHellWithGA> arapehl: if you'd like to get out of this crowded channel i could consult with you in PM and then if we can't solve the problem you could always return
[03:31] <kordo> there is no show unsupported
[03:31] <arapehl> #
[03:31] <arapehl> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[03:31] <arapehl> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[03:31] <arapehl> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[03:31] <arapehl> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[03:31] <vans> hi!
[03:31] <arapehl> /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[03:32] <ToHellWithGA> arapehl: let's PM
[03:32] <zcat[1] > !paste
[03:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:32] <mark_> vem0m, I know how dhcp works, I'm just wondering what else could be wrong
[03:32] <ToHellWithGA> that is definitely pastebin worthy
[03:32] <mark_> or where dhcp and the wireless hardware interact
[03:32] <vem0m> have u searched the forums?
[03:32] <mark_> yes
[03:32] <vem0m> might help mark
[03:32] <vem0m> hmmm
[03:32] <JackDeth_> Sorry gang. Had a child-related emergency to attend to...   ;-)
[03:32] <kordo> 5.4 must be
[03:32] <JackDeth_> I didn't know there was a koha for Windows. Thanks cat!
[03:32] <vans> somebody  install ubuntu breezy in sony VAIO FJ 270??
[03:33] <vem0m> is linux picking up DHCP support?
[03:33] <cyberslug> arapehl, Unfortunately I do not have time to sort out your problem ... Good Luck!
[03:33] <JackDeth_> However, I also planned on installing Zimbra on this same computer so would still need Linux anyway.
[03:33] <vem0m> try the newest 6.06
[03:33] <CrimsonScythe> hi guys. i'm going to use linux on my desktop in my new job (yay!), and i was wondering if anybody have experience with both gentoo and (k)ubuntu. which is the most convenient for maintenance in a job setting?
[03:33] <vem0m> kordo as that version is a lil older
[03:33] <zcat[1] > windows is teh suck anyhow.. just letting you know all the options :)
[03:33] <JackDeth_> BlueEagle: What is mc?
[03:34] <kordo> well,dont expect me to handle the new 1
[03:34] <Tommy2k4>  Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/config.inc.php on line 4
[03:34] <mark_> vem0m, I have perfect wired access
[03:34] <Tommy2k4> why would that happen when phpmyadmin works fine
[03:34] <cyberslug> Anyway - See you later!
[03:34] <danc3> kordo: we don't expect you to do anything
[03:34] <BlueEagle> jackdeth_: midnight commander. A clone of the all-popular norton commander
[03:34] <mark_> and some communication is happening between my wireless modem and the access point
[03:34] <BlueEagle> jackdeth_: It's a graphical filesystem browser for *nix.
[03:34] <cjones> can anyone help me configure wine?
[03:34] <kordo> i can get any help for that,what to say about new
[03:34] <vans> guy! which pavlkete need install for AGP nvidia 6600GT..
[03:34] <vem0m> wifi is still newly supported in linux i don't use it i am just throwing ideas out there
[03:34] <vans> cjones, tell me
[03:34] <mark_> ok, thx anyway
[03:35] <technel> Ok, so I went into the HP bios and I did a "Reset Options to Defaults". Now when I boot up I get the GRUB boot loader (I have a Win/Linux dual boot), it tells me that the partition doesn't exist, no matter what I select. What got messed up and how do I fix it?
[03:35] <kordo> I quit
[03:35] <vans> cjones,  i have wine workon properly
[03:35] <vem0m> Kordo try upgrading to version 6.06 of ubuntu
[03:35] <mark_> anyone who could help me get my wireless working?
[03:35] <James_> ven0m: When i try to boot it into recovery more, it stops on: "ACPI: Looking for DSDT ... not found!"
[03:35] <kordo> why?
[03:35] <James_> ven0m: if that helps...
[03:35] <zcat[1] > vans: apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:35] <mark_> ibook g4, bcm4306 chipset
[03:35] <zcat[1] > !nvidia
[03:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:35] <vem0m> might work better for ya
[03:35] <kordo> i still wont understand
[03:35] <cjones> vans i wont to run a game/programe called magic online but all i can to work in wine is notepad
[03:35] <mark_> iwlist eth0 scan shows me it sees my access point
[03:35] <vem0m> do a search sorry we told u how
[03:35] <vans> zcat[1] , yes,,, but not work,,,try to nvidia-setting, nivida-;legacy,,
[03:36] <danc3> kordo: why don't you just go back to windoze, then?
[03:36] <ssuehr> heh
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> about all the docs and guides are now being updated for the dapper release.. which is  6.06
[03:36] <ssuehr> here we go again
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> :)
[03:36] <kordo> can u at least tell me how to erase the linux partition and not lose windows folders
[03:36] <zcat[1] > kordo: if you are already familiar with windows and have no particular need to migrate, you might be better off staying with windows
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> or install the latest dapper. that way we can be on the same 'level ground' :)
[03:36] <mark_> I can associate with my access point, but that is everything it seems
[03:36] <kordo> well,i didnt expected linux users to tell me to go top windows
[03:36] <mark_> any suggestions on how to troubleshoot
[03:37] <kordo> but u all say it so
[03:37] <zcat[1] > kordo: just reinstall windows, when it gets to partitioning remove everything that's not an NTFS or FAT filesystem
[03:37] <kordo> well
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> kordo,  get that ubuntu book when it comes out in the bookstores. :P
[03:37] <mark_> kordo, I haven't heard what your problem is exactly
[03:37] <vans> cjones, try instal    wine "program.exe" in .wine/program files, etc...and them... run the program   wine .wine/progra,,,/etc/etc/xxx,exe
[03:37] <ssuehr> yeah, it's all our fault.  it has nothing to do with the fact that you don't take any of our suggestions.
[03:37] <zcat[1] > kordo: we tried to help.. you seem to have trouble understanding what you're told.
[03:37] <kordo> i am afraid it doesnt recognize non-NTFS
[03:37] <danc3> kordo: format c: /u /y
[03:37] <ardchoille> How do I put an app launcher on the xfce desktop?
[03:38] <kordo> u didnt
[03:38] <vem0m> kordo search the forums u shall find what u seek
[03:38] <kordo> u give me some links only
[03:38] <zcat[1] > windows will know if the filesystem isn't NTFS and can remove and reformat it, even if it can't read it.
[03:38] <vem0m> i found everything i needed so far there
[03:38] <kordo> and tell me to go to windows
[03:38] <kordo> only that u did
[03:38] <cjones> vans thanks ill give it a try
[03:38] <vem0m> this is 2nd day using ubuntu also all the info i needed was on the forums
[03:38] <vans> cjones, goog luck!
[03:38] <kordo> no1 told me how to install anything
[03:39] <ssuehr> yes, they did kordo
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> kordo,  they also told you to use the latest ubuntu, now that we have extabilished the fact you are using   version 5.4
[03:39] <zcat[1] > the links describe how to do what you want. I'm not going to retype an entire webpage in here just because you're too lazy to open a browser
[03:39] <danc3> kordo: STFU and go away
[03:39] <vem0m> read the links
[03:39] <ssuehr> i feel /ignore coming
[03:39] <BlueEagle> danc3: now, there, there. No point in letting the troll get to you.
[03:39] <abstractism> hello
[03:39] <vans> cjones, remember the path of you Windowd emolatur     /~user/.wine/......
[03:39] <kordo> i told u i did
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> kordo,  ya could try 'alt-f2' then run the command 'sudo apt-get install vlc'
[03:39] <danc3> BlueEagle: true dat
[03:39] <kordo> and download software
[03:39] <vem0m> yep i said same
[03:39] <ssuehr> anyone else think that kordo is just here to annoy and really doesn't have any problem at all?
[03:39] <danc3> kordo: stick to windoze
[03:39] <subzone> kordo: this is not a paid-support room where people here MUST help you. roll back to your room and sleep.
[03:39] <danc3> kordo: <------------TROLL
[03:39] <Kibou> !synaptic
[03:39] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[03:39] <abstractism> can anyone help me get my ubuntu system to read mac formatted CDs?
[03:40] <zcat[1] > <plonk>  talk to the filter...
[03:40] <vem0m> hehe mac
[03:40] <kordo> Is this Linux society?
[03:40] <BlueEagle> kordo: If you want to remove linux and recover the space for use with windows you simply fire up fdisk in windows and erase the partitions on which you installed linux. Then format it in a windows compatible file system.
[03:40] <technel> Is there a way to re-generate fstab?
[03:40] <mark_> abstractism, as far as I know, macs also format CD's in the iso9660 format
[03:40] <ssuehr> bye kordo\
[03:40] <danc3> kordo: <------------TROLL
[03:40] <kordo> Go to windows,get out,go to read
[03:40] <kordo> Troll
[03:40] <Tommy2k4> why wont mysql work in php5 when phpmyadmin works fine
[03:40] <danc3> kordo: you forgot STFU
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> update to the latest. even :P
[03:40] <vem0m> yep should be readable not usable but readlable if not use a mac emu
[03:41] <Tommy2k4> Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/config.inc.php on line 4
[03:41] <kordo> what is stfu
[03:41] <abstractism> mark_: I can't get this to work then
[03:41] <ssuehr> any ops here ever kickban anyone?
[03:41] <danc3> kordo: google it
[03:41] <James_> kordo: www.google.com
[03:41] <vem0m> Shut the fuck up STFU
[03:41] <zcat[1] > ssuehr: yeah, seveas kickbanned me once :)
[03:41] <Ghost_Printer> Kordo = ID10T
[03:41] <BlueEagle> kordo: but "go read" is typical for the linux community. Why should we look things up in the manual and copy it here when teaching you how to use the manual will help you in so many more ways?
[03:41] <vem0m> :P
[03:41] <Comrade_S> !language
[03:41] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:41] <skavenge> no one is going to walk you through everything especially when everyone here put hours of reading online themselves to get things working well .. being lazy is no excuse
[03:41] <abstractism> I'm trying to get my old lucasarts games running with scummvm
[03:41] <vem0m> lol
[03:41] <mark_> abstractism, sorry, I'm afraid I can't help you any further
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> Then realize you are using a year old out of date install. :)
[03:42] <mark_> or at least not much
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> abstractism,  hard core! :)
[03:42] <kordo> 'alt-f2' then run the command 'sudo apt-get install vlc'
[03:42] <kordo> doesnt work
[03:42] <illusin1> Anyone have any suggestions on how to get dual screens to "dock" windows as opposed to having a virtual "2600x1024" type resolution? e.g. two windows to handle separate dockings
[03:42] <BlueEagle> kordo: no windows folders reside on any linux partitions (uless you've moved them over after installing linux)
[03:42] <vem0m> lol what does it say?
[03:42] <abstractism> well, I'll try again and post results and such of what happens
[03:42] <mark_> abstractism, what happens when you insert the cd
[03:42] <kordo> cuz i told u this manuals are for at least advanced users
[03:42] <mark_> ?
[03:42] <ardchoille> kordo: are you trying to install vlc?
[03:42] <vem0m> kordo what does ti say
[03:42] <JackDeth_> Thanks for all the feedback gang!  Thanks for the links BlueEagle.
[03:42] <zcat[1] > !vlc
[03:42] <ubotu> Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC - also see !codecs
[03:42] <James_> ven0m: seem to have "fixed" it by booting with 'acpi=off' at the boot prompt
[03:43] <vem0m> no they are for nubs like u kordo
[03:43] <BlueEagle> james_: np. :)
[03:43] <vem0m> advanced don't need manual
[03:43] <danc3> kordo: <------------NUB/TROLL
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> vem0m,  :)
[03:43] <kordo> Cannot display location
[03:43] <JackDeth_> I'm going to go attempt to set all this up with no prior experience and see how far I can go before I really mess things up.   ;-)
[03:43] <JackDeth_> Cheers!
[03:43] <James_> will 'acpi=off' cause me any problems in the long term?
[03:43] <vem0m> ahhhhhh told u it was the kernel loading something :P
[03:43] <James_> (anything noticeable)
[03:43] <zcat[1] > JackDeth_: fresh install, no dual-boot?
[03:44] <JackDeth_> zcat - Correct. I'm just going to hose Windows on that computer all together.
[03:44] <snoops> JackDeth_ fresh ubuntu install without dual-booting I've found is nice and easy :)
[03:44] <vem0m> no
[03:44] <kordo> There is no Linux society
[03:44] <illusin1> Anyone have any ideas?
[03:44] <danc3> kordo: sure there is, but you sure aren't part of it
[03:44] <ardchoille> kordo: are you trying to install vlc?
[03:44] <vem0m> james just might fix something on your end :P
[03:44] <] GoldenDragon> after installing pcsx through synaptec and trying to enter command "pcsx" in terminal i get the error "line 31: lndir: command not found"
[03:44] <BlueEagle> kordo: ok, let's take this from the top: To install applications using a graphical interface use synaptic or adept or the other application installer that I don't remember the name of. To install applications on the command line please use aptitude or apt-get
[03:44] <zcat[1] > Yeah, well.. most stuff is automatic.. if you know your timezone, what language you speak, and what your own name is, you generally can't go too far wrong.
[03:44] <JackDeth_> Thanks again guys!
[03:44] <kditty> does anyone else have a problem with nautlis messing up sometimes and not loading again until reboot?
[03:44] <abstractism> actually
[03:44] <abstractism> this is odd
[03:45] <WarOfAttrition> trolls... some people have a strange sense of entertainment
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing.html   :)
[03:45] <vem0m> kordo either read and search or use windows i hate windows i don't recommend it to anyone but if u aren't willing to read and learn stick with the kiddie crap windows
[03:45] <kordo> Blue,u think i understand that?
[03:45] <] GoldenDragon> dr willis, what's that for?
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> for our pet troll. :)
[03:45] <Kibou> use osx.. it's made for morons
[03:45] <James_> brb
[03:45] <kordo> Mac?
[03:45] <danc3> kordo: what "do" you understand?  Are you a complete moron, or what?
[03:45] <BlueEagle> kordo: Yes I do, because you will find "Adept" or "Synaptic" under the system->administration menu. It should even be labled "Package manager".
[03:45] <ardchoille> kordo: would you like to try and help?
[03:46] <vem0m> lmao
[03:46] <subzone> kordo: do us a flavour, leave this place.
[03:46] <zcat[1] > as ooposed to windows which is made BY morons... :)
[03:46] <Kibou> hehe
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> heh heh
[03:46] <WarOfAttrition> I don't know what's worse. trolls, or people who fall for trolls
[03:46] <kordo> No Linux society acts like this
[03:46] <technel> Ok, so I went into the HP bios and I did a "Reset Options to Defaults". Now when I boot up I get the GRUB boot loader (I have a Win/Linux dual boot), it tells me that the partition doesn't exist, no matter what I select. What got messed up and how do I fix it?
[03:46] <danc3> kordo: STFU
[03:46] <meheren> is there a way to have coloured command line?
[03:46] <BlueEagle> danc3: Please do not harm him. Yes, he is a n00b and yes I would prefer it if he was a newbie, but trolling back at him won't make him learn anything at all.
[03:47] <KyoLaptop1> Hey, someone says he was banned without ever having been in here
[03:47] <kordo> u r just linux users,not society
[03:47] <KyoLaptop1> nick = winner
[03:47] <vem0m> no person using linux is so unwilling to read and learn as u are kordo
[03:47] <ardchoille> kordo: I have asked you three times if you want me to help you. Do you want some help with your problem?!?
[03:47] <hyphenated> technel: you probably changed the drive mode from LBA to CHS
[03:47] <KyoLaptop1> can an Op PM him about it please?
[03:47] <danc3> BlueEagle: yeah ok
[03:47] <] GoldenDragon> after installing pcsx through synaptec and trying to enter command "pcsx" in terminal i get the error "line 31: lndir: command not found" anyone got pcsx working on ubuntu before?
[03:47] <abstractism> actually this CD is acting funky
[03:47] <snoops> technel do you have other hdd's on that pc?
[03:47] <BlueEagle> danc3: Thank you.
[03:47] <GaiaX11> Why are people sending kordo away? Is that fair?
[03:47] <technel> snoops: Yes, two hard drives
[03:47] <kordo> and i can tell u if i knew how to use Linux,i would be able to explain
[03:47] <BlueEagle> kordo: Now, have you found synaptic in the menu yet?
[03:47] <technel> hyphenated: So I could change that back in the BIOS?
[03:47] <snoops> technel grub is probably pointing to the wrong hdd..
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> GaiaX11,  how long you been watching this go  on?  its going on like 20 hrs now.
[03:48] <vem0m> I AM ONLY AT DAY 2 OF USING LINUX!
[03:48] <hyphenated> technel: yeah. you should have a choice between 'Auto', 'CHS', 'LBA' or something
[03:48] <technel> snoops: But it worked fine before. GRUB booted up the partitions perfectly until I defaulted the settings
[03:48] <danc3> GaiaX11: did you just wake up or something?
[03:48] <GaiaX11> Dr_Willis, What?
[03:48] <vem0m> its not hard just READ!
[03:48] <technel> hyphenated: And I want LBA?
[03:48] <kordo> i did it 3 hours ago,so what?
[03:48] <hyphenated> technel: usually, yeah
[03:48] <KyoLaptop1> wait a sec
[03:48] <vem0m> READ KORDO
[03:48] <abstractism> actually, I have a different problem now ;)
[03:48] <KyoLaptop1> Why did you guys ban @silenceisdefeat.org ?
[03:48] <technel> hyphenated: Ok, let me go try and I will let you know if it works. Thanks!
[03:48] <snoops> ah technel, k guess you should follow hyphenated's suggestions, sorry :)
[03:48] <vem0m> u may learn to fix your problem
[03:48] <kordo> i need to install programs and do sometnig with this OS
[03:48] <Kibou> he's going for a troll marathon
[03:48] <meheren> is there a way to colourize ur terminal?
[03:48] <KyoLaptop1> the hell did they do to you guys?
[03:48] <looksaus> anyone out here who could help me diagnose a problem with wireless?
[03:48] <WarOfAttrition> because @silenceisdefeat.org sucks
[03:48] <cyphase> kordo, what are you having trouble with?
[03:49] <vem0m> READ that is how u learn to install and USE THIS os
[03:49] <kordo> cant watch video,listen to music,use p2p programs
[03:49] <cyphase> i didn't see..
[03:49] <danc3> meheren: yes there is
[03:49] <cyphase> kordo, which p2p programs?
[03:49] <meheren> gentoo has a cloured terminal (red name of computer blue the filepath)
[03:49] <BlueEagle> kordo: If you are talking to me it would greatly help if you prefixed the line with "blueeagle:". That way it highlights in my IRC client.
[03:49] <kordo> eMule,DC++
[03:49] <meheren> danc3, how?
[03:49] <KyoLaptop1> are there any ops in the channel right now?
[03:49] <danc3> meheren: google "bash color prompt"
[03:49] <ssuehr> yet another attempt
[03:49] <vem0m> use amule
[03:49] <cyphase> kordo, try installing gtk-gnutella
[03:49] <BlueEagle> kordo: Now after starting synaptic you will get a nice interface that will list all packages that are availible to you in your active repositories.
[03:49] <vem0m> instead of emule
[03:49] <kordo> well Blue,i dont know how
[03:49] <nverhaar> im having problems with Ubuntu and IPTABLES. I have allowed MASQUERADE'ing for all outgoing traffic on ETH1 and attempting to transfer files to/from an external FTP on port 1111 and i keep getting 426 CONNECTION CLOSED errors at seemingly random times. I setup an IPCop box and tried the same thing and it worked flawlessly. Any ideas?
[03:49] <zcat[1] > ssuehr: you mean another successfull troll from kordo.. ?
[03:49] <meheren> danc3, ok
[03:50] <james__> thanks all for your help anyway (but i found the solution in the forum in the end :)
[03:50] <BlueEagle> kordo: just type bluee and hit TAB that will complete the nick. :)
[03:50] <GaiaX11> danc3, Dr_Willis, why are people angry with kordo? I want to understand that.
[03:50] <abstractism> it reads the disc but now I can't get at the files
[03:50] <Kibou> BlueEagle: he refused to get synapitc 2 hours ago already
[03:50] <abstractism> there's data and audio tracks on here
[03:50] <danc3> GaiaX11: because he's been offered the solution to his problems, but refuses to listen, or even try
[03:50] <kordo> BlueEagle, yeah,it works
[03:50] <BlueEagle> kibou: No point in giving up on him yet. :)
[03:50] <vem0m> kordo u are now ignored for being not only stupid but annoying
[03:50] <BlueEagle> kibou: So you've got synaptic up and running?
[03:50] <KyoLaptop1> hundreds of people were banned for no reason, come on
[03:50] <zcat[1] > GaiaX11: because he asks questions and then utterly, totally fails to follow any of the replies.
[03:51] <cyphase> kordo: as far as media, run this command..
[03:51] <ssuehr> nverhaar, it's not a ftp port issue, is it?  as in, use 'passive' for the xfer?
[03:51] <hyphenated> !ops
[03:51] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> GaiaX11,  hes been going on for about Hmm 20 hrs now.. demands help then dosent listen,  then rants about how we suck
[03:51] <Kibou> kibou != kordo
[03:51] <seawolf_> sheesh, these questions and kordo's ignorance are driving me to the edge of insansity, back to sanity
[03:51] <kordo> Instead all helping,u are all united against me,Society of Linux
[03:51] <cyphase> apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-pitfdll totem-xine gxine libxine-extracodecs vlc
[03:51] <danc3> yes!
[03:51] <vem0m> everyone type /ignore kordo
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> Or coruse Now it comes out hes using Ubuntu 5.4 (i think)
[03:51] <vem0m> no more kordo
[03:51] <GaiaX11> All right!
[03:51] <BlueEagle> kibou: I do apoligize. I am too lazy with my nick completer. :)
[03:51] <WarOfAttrition> 100s? as long as it's not 1000s it's fine
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> so of course none of the guides/docs/ apply any more.
[03:51] <hyphenated> gnomefreak: while you're at it, you could probably help KyoLaptop1 out
[03:51] <BlueEagle> kordo: So you've got synaptic up and running?
[03:51] <vem0m> its been known he refuses to upgrade
[03:51] <Kibou> :P
[03:51] <useename> vem0m: that doesn't work because I'm using Gaim
[03:51] <] GoldenDragon> after installing pcsx through synaptec and trying to enter command "pcsx" in terminal i get the error "line 31: lndir: command not found" anyone got pcsx working on ubuntu before?
[03:52] <useename> anyone know how to ignore a user in Gaim?
[03:52] <vem0m> sad i am using konversation
[03:52] <kordo> BlueEagle, yes,but it is not dc++ client on it
[03:52] <gnomefreak> what did he do
[03:52] <kitsuneofdoom> I am trying to get ATI accelerated graphics to work, I have an HP dv5000z
[03:52] <KyoLaptop1> Ok, gnomefreak (or any op who isn't afk), could you please unban @silenceisdefeat.org?
[03:52] <vem0m> brb
[03:52] <BlueEagle> kordo: Ok. Have you modefied the file called /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[03:52] <BlueEagle> !easyubuntu
[03:52] <GaiaX11> If he refuses to listen and to try, he wll not learn anything from here then. That's a pity!
[03:52] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:52] <BlueEagle> hmm
[03:52] <KyoLaptop1> at least 200 people have been blocked from the channel due to that ban
[03:53] <BlueEagle> !source-o-matic
[03:53] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:53] <danc3> how can you regulars in here take this kind of punishment...?  This channel is absolutely painful.
[03:53] <Ghost_Printer> Kordo...people have tried to help you but your too damn lazy to do anything....you freakin troll
[03:53] <kitsuneofdoom> I am trying to get ATI accelerated graphics to work, I have an HP dv5000z, and when I load gdm using it, the computer crashes
[03:53] <WarOfAttrition> then they probably deserved it, that doesn't sound like any isp to me
[03:53] <kordo> BlueEagle, see why this sites cant help?What is this file to modifie
[03:53] <vem0m> kitsuneofdoom: hey PM i will help u with ATi
[03:53] <KyoLaptop1> WarOfAttrition.
[03:53] <gnomefreak> KyoLaptop1: tell him to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:53] <skavenge> danc3: its not usually this bad, most people wanting help are serious
[03:53] <KyoLaptop1> silenceisdefeat is a public access unix server
[03:53] <cyphase> sorry. i thought 3 lines was the limit
[03:53] <cyphase> my bad
[03:53] <WarOfAttrition> you mean a proxy?
[03:53] <danc3> can't take this place any longer
[03:54] <kordo> I am not lazy,just cant understand,u r talking with commands
[03:54] <KyoLaptop1> did I say proxy?
[03:54] <cyphase> ah, right. 3 lines on my screen isn't 3 lines on mine. doh
[03:54] <WarOfAttrition> well that's what it is if they're connecting through it
[03:54] <cyphase> yours*
[03:54] <zcat[1] > kordo: are you in ubuntu now?
[03:54] <gnomefreak> cyphase: no its cool
[03:54] <KyoLaptop1> WarOfAttrition, I suppose it could be used as a proxy, why?
[03:54] <KyoLaptop1> is that reason enough for a ban?
[03:55] <WarOfAttrition> this server doesn't allow proxies
[03:55] <cyphase> anyway, kordo..
[03:55] <kordo> still didn't try to format the linux part :)
[03:55] <KyoLaptop1> ah.
[03:55] <BlueEagle> kordo: To get a customized sources.list file please go to http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic and check fill in the form with "Dapper", and your architecture (should be i386), fill in the two-letter code for your country and check "Include updates" and "Include security updates" Then check off "Packages" for every repository that lists "Dapper" as a supported version.
[03:55] <cyphase> everyone here is volunteerting
[03:55] <cyphase> !patience
[03:55] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:55] <KyoLaptop1> well, it isn't just a proxy.
[03:55] <BlueEagle> kordo: That will give you a sources list with your nearest mirror and all repositories.
[03:55] <KyoLaptop1> you donate a buck to get in, and it c-
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> BlueEagle,  i dont think hes using dapper.
[03:55] <KyoLaptop1> screw it, just visit silenceisdefeat.org for info
[03:55] <BlueEagle> dr_willis: Really?
[03:56] <zcat[1] > kordo: are you in ubuntu now? Do you know which is the bottom-left corner of your screen? Can you find the applications menu?
[03:56] <BlueEagle> kordo: Do you know if you're using dapper or breezy or hoary?
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> BlueEagle,  yes - that fact came out a while ago.. i think - hes using ubuntu 5.4  whatever that is.
[03:56] <zcat[1] > warty?
[03:56] <nalioth> KyoLaptop1: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[03:56] <elkbuntu> no, hoary
[03:56] <NickGarvey> hoary?!
[03:56] <BlueEagle> 5.4 would be hoary I guess.
[03:57] <NickGarvey> !
[03:57] <WarOfAttrition> blame the scum that uses proxies for dos attacks
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> i always found the use of names - to be annoying. :)
[03:57] <gnomefreak> BlueEagle: hoary was 5.04
[03:57] <BlueEagle> warofattrition: blame the people that runs open proxies for people to run dos attacks trough. :)
[03:57] <KyoLaptop1> right
[03:57] <KyoLaptop1> even though you can't run your own programs in silenceisdefeat.org.
[03:58] <kordo> how do u download from this site?
[03:58] <KyoLaptop1> your logic fails, WarOfAttrition
[03:58] <BlueEagle> kordo: ok, mark off all that list "hoary" as supported version. Either that or you might want to upgrade for a number of reasons. One being that hoary is soon to be unsupported (if it's not already)
[03:58] <WarOfAttrition> do I make the server rules?
[03:58] <ardchoille> BlueEagle: Hoary is no longer supported
[03:58] <gnomefreak> KyoLaptop1: join #ubuntu-offtopic for that please
[03:59] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: yes it is
[03:59] <chespirito> what does /i686/soundtest.o mean?
[03:59] <gnomefreak> warty is no longer supported
[03:59] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: It is? ok, I stand corrected.
[03:59] <elkbuntu> 18 months is not up yet
[03:59] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: until oct
[03:59] <BlueEagle> kordo: You can copy and paste it.
[03:59] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: yeah, I must have been thinking about Warty
[03:59] <WarOfAttrition> either way, thanks to them, a webhost will charge you more for dos attack defense. thanks to scum
[04:00] <elkbuntu> WarOfAttrition, please take this to -offtopic
[04:00] <gnomefreak> WarOfAttrition: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:00] <BlueEagle> kordo: the easiest way is to open a terminal and run the command: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:00] <jorgeu> hi, i need help with locales in ubuntu 6 LTS. The locale configuration "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't let me choose with locales i want, it just generate the locales already installed. Any idea?
[04:00] <ssuehr> kordo claims to have no terminal
[04:00] <BlueEagle> kordo: it will prompt for your password and open an editor with root privileges.
[04:00] <kordo> How are u even working with that Linux?
[04:00] <technel> hyphenated: I couldn't find what you were referring to. I got a more detailed error though: "Could not find partition   root (hd0,2)   Error 22: No such partition" perhaps that ISN'T the right partition...hd0,2?
[04:00] <Kibou> haha
[04:01] <kordo> how to open terminal
[04:01] <zcat[1] > kordo: are you in ubuntu now? Do you know which is the bottom-left corner of your screen? Can you find the applications menu?
[04:01] <BlueEagle> kordo: It should be in your applications menu.
[04:01] <elkbuntu> kordo, applications > accessories > terminal
[04:01] <BlueEagle> kordo: or you can press ALT+F2 and type in gnome-terminal in the run dialog box.
[04:01] <snoops> technel, you can try others.. hd0 refers tot he first hdd, then ,n is the partition, starting at 0
[04:01] <kordo> there is no terminal there
[04:01] <zcat[1] > kordo: are you actually reading any of this or are you a troll script?
[04:01] <zcat[1] > kordo: are you in ubuntu now? Do you know which is the bottom-left corner of your screen? Can you find the applications menu?
[04:02] <snoops> technel so hd0,2 would be first hdd, third partition
[04:02] <jorgeu> hi, i need help with locales (i hate UTF-8) in ubuntu 6 LTS. The locale configuration "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't let me choose with locales i want, it just generate the locales already installed. Any idea?
[04:02] <Kibou> isn't it the upper left by default?
[04:02] <technel> snoops: But why would have my BIOS effected GRUB? =\
[04:02] <ardchoille> zcat[1] : unless he moved his panel, Applications menu should be in the top left of the screen
[04:02] <elkbuntu> is anyone trying 1 on 1 in private dialog with him?
[04:02] <zcat[1] > sorry..
[04:02] <kordo> kordokuvas@ubuntu-kordokuvas:~$
[04:02] <gnomefreak> jorgeu: go to system>admin>language
[04:02] <ardchoille> elkbuntu: I tried, but I guess he ignored me
[04:02] <kordo> now what
[04:02] <chespirito> kordo has no terminal?
[04:02] <BlueEagle> elkbuntu: What would be the odds of him having registered with nickserv?
[04:02] <snoops> technel it could have changed the way hdd's were detected? switched them? I'm grasping at straws
[04:02] <ssuehr> yay, terminal!
[04:02] <elkbuntu> BlueEagle, good point
[04:03] <ardchoille> BlueEagle: heh, good point
[04:03] <snoops> technel are both hdd's detected in bios?
[04:03] <kordo> well it only comes out with Alt+F2
[04:03] <technel> snoops: Yep. I went to the drives section and it showed both of them.
[04:03] <BlueEagle> kordo: Good, now type: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:03] <technel> snoops: The settings appear to be the same as before (I had looked at them just before I did the reset)
[04:03] <BlueEagle> kordo: it will prompt you for your password and then open an editor
[04:03] <gnomefreak> BlueEagle: gksudo please
[04:03] <nalioth> BlueEagle: keep !gksudo and !kdesu in mind, please
[04:03] <chespirito> what exactly is kordo trying to do?
[04:03] <abstractism> kdesu, heh
[04:03] <technel> snoops: Perhaps my MBR is bad?
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> chespirito,  installing stuff on a 5.4 install
[04:04] <kordo> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20050330)] / hoary main restricted
[04:04] <snoops> k technel.. well I guess I'd just try getting it to boot, so I'd mess with grub.. wait for it to load, then hit a key before it starts to load
[04:04] <kordo> now?
[04:04] <siriusnova> hello
[04:04] <siriusnova> can anyone help me with wpa_supplicant?
[04:04] <siriusnova> i need to compile it from source
[04:04] <chespirito> Dr_Willis: oh,ok...5.04,that looks strange
[04:04] <kordo> and how do you remember this commands?
[04:04] <nalioth> !compile > siriusnova
[04:04] <siriusnova> because i installed patched madwifi drivers
[04:04] <chespirito> but i have my own problems actually :)
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> chespirito,  and its so out of date now - its scary.
[04:04] <`daffodil> has anyone had any luck installing winXP under win4lin with Dapper?
[04:04] <technel> snoops: What do you mean hit a key before it starts to load?
[04:04] <siriusnova> nalioth - hmm ?
[04:04] <siriusnova> !compile
[04:04] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> how do we rember commands? its all logical.
[04:04] <nalioth> siriusnova: you have a PM
[04:04] <kordo> BlueEagle, it opened it
[04:04] <kordo> now?
[04:05] <BlueEagle> kordo: Now delete everything there exept for the line that reads: deb cdrom:[Ubuntu....
[04:05] <nalioth> siriusnova: that was unnecessary
[04:05] <snoops> then you can hit e, to edit the main line, and which partition, hdd it boots from technel.. I don't see how an mbr would be corrupted/edited from changing a bios setting.. umm grub gives you a count down before it tries to boot an os.. bit a key that isn't enter before than to stop the countdown
[04:05] <ssuehr> daffodil, I've not tried but I've had great luck with VMWare workstation under Linux, running a WinXP client on the Linux host.
[04:05] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: how do I run nautilus with gksudo ?
[04:05] <nalioth> siriusnova: the bot has been changed to send factoids differently than before
[04:05] <siriusnova> nalioth - i dont understand
[04:05] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: gksudo nautilus
[04:05] <siriusnova> ahh ok
[04:05] <kordo> BlueEagle, i did it
[04:05] <BlueEagle> kordo: Now have you been to the source-o-matic and chosen all repositories that are supported for hoary?
[04:05] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: not always a good idea btqw
[04:05] <gnomefreak> -q
[04:05] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: ahh, ok
[04:05] <kordo> yes
[04:05] <snoops> technel then hit e on the one you want to try and boot, and change the root line, trying different hd combinations.. I'm just grasping at straws since it's all so odd
[04:05] <kordo> they are not much
[04:06] <BlueEagle> kordo: Did you get the automatically generated sources.list in your browser?
[04:06] <siriusnova> that page doesnt really help me with wpasupplicant
[04:06] <siriusnova> :(
[04:06] <nalioth> siriusnova: join #ubuntu-classroom please
[04:06] <technel> snoops: Would "sudo mount hd0,3 mnt" do basically the same thing?
[04:06] <jorgeu> gnomefreak: that admin tool only handle the language support installed. Don't let me drop UTF-8 that is my problem now. In past releases of ubuntu the command "dpkg-reconfigure locales" solved it because were possible to uncheck all the UFT-8 related locales and select the NON-UTF-8 locales. It isn't possible anymore?
[04:06] <technel> snoops: To test if it works
[04:06] <BlueEagle> kordo: Good, now select everything in your browser by clicking and dragging to mark it. Then go to the gedit window and click your middle button below the line you left.
[04:06] <kordo> BlueEagle, im not sure it is in browser like and it says:
[04:06] <`daffodil> ssuehr, i will look into that and give that a shot, i'm a bit new to this emulation/virtualization thing, i just want to find something that will let me run the whole winXP OS under linux, so then i can finally do away with it, guess i'm turning into more of an ubuntu-aholic than i originally bargained for :)
[04:06] <BlueEagle> kordo: That should paste the new sources.list in your gedit window.
[04:06] <kordo> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20050330)] / hoary main restricted
[04:07] <snoops> technel nope, it wouldn't. that'd generate an error
[04:07] <technel> snoops: Why?
[04:07] <`daffodil> ssuehr:  and VMware worked under dapper for you?
[04:07] <BlueEagle> kordo: is that all you got from source-o-matic?
[04:07] <chespirito> Hoary Hedgehog,i feel like i'm in my grandma's house when i read that
[04:07] <kordo> BlueEagle, huh?
[04:07] <snoops> technel grub sees hdd's as hd number,partition.. linux sees them as /dev/hda, /dev/hdb.. or /dev/sda /dev/sdb
[04:07] <ssuehr> I installed it under Debian Sarge today and I'll be installing it under Dapper soon.  I would expect that it would work under Dapper at least as good as under Sarge
[04:08] <technel> snoops: Ohh, ok. Are you going to be around for a little while? It will take me a bit to test it and this LiveCD takes ages to load
[04:08] <kordo> BlueEagle, no,that is from this alt f2 commands
[04:08] <BlueEagle> kordo: in the gedit window?
[04:08] <snoops> technel okay, and yeah I'll be around
[04:08] <technel> snoops: Alright, thanks
[04:08] <kitsuneofdoom> I am trying to get ATI accelerated graphics to work, I have an HP dv5000z, and when I load gdm using it, the computer crashes
[04:08] <chespirito> anyway,what i want to know is.
[04:08] <kordo> BlueEagle,  gedit window?
[04:08] <lostinc> I have several hundred page docs to scan into the system as PDFs is there a good prog to do this?
[04:08] <`daffodil> thanks for the info ssuehr :)
[04:08] <chespirito> i am compiling cinelerra,the ./configure went well.
[04:08] <BlueEagle> kordo: The window that opened with the command sudo gedit.
[04:09] <kordo> o,yes,i see it is on the top
[04:09] <chespirito> i tried "make" and i receive an error message about some "i686/soundtest.o"
[04:09] <chespirito> what does that mean?
[04:09] <kordo> BlueEagle, yes-gedit
[04:09] <vem0m> hmmmmm
[04:09] <BlueEagle> kordo: Now please go to your browser.
[04:09] <vem0m> what error exactly?
[04:09] <chespirito> FATAL: can't create i686/soundtest.o: Arquivo ou diretrio no encontrado
[04:09] <chespirito> that is portuguese for "file or directory not found"
[04:09] <BlueEagle> kordo: Have you got the text #Automatically generated sources.list there?
[04:09] <nverhaar> ssuehr, its not a PASSIVE/ACTIVE issue im having... the problem is intermittent. FTP transfers to an external FTP on port 1111 work well with small files, but once the files get larger im getting 426 CONNECTION CLOSED errors at seemingly random intervals
[04:10] <vem0m> u do a ./configure first?
[04:10] <chespirito> yes
[04:10] <kordo> BlueEagle, it's open:http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:10] <BlueEagle> kordo: Did you fill in the form like I told you to?
[04:10] <vem0m> try sudo make
[04:10] <chespirito>  same error
[04:10] <NickGarvey> vem0m: you shouldn't need to do that
[04:10] <chespirito> dumb question.
[04:10] <NickGarvey> vem0m: the only sudo you should need is for make install
[04:10] <kordo> yes,with packages of hoary
[04:10] <chespirito> it is about sound,so i think i should ask it
[04:10] <vem0m> well i usally use it and all goes fine :P
[04:11] <NickGarvey> chespirito: have you googled your error?
[04:11] <BlueEagle> kordo: good, did you click the button "Give me a sources.list" at the bottom?
[04:11] <vem0m> yea google loves helping
[04:11] <chespirito> NickGarvey, yes,i found nothing useful
[04:11] <vem0m> :P
[04:11] <vem0m> hmmmm
[04:11] <chespirito> anyway,is the "sound" error related to amarok?
[04:11] <vem0m> what is it u are trying to install?
[04:11] <chespirito> cinelerra.
[04:11] <kitsuneofdoom> I think I found a way to fix my problem, but it involves downgrading a version of a package, how would I do this?
[04:11] <chespirito> i mean,everytime i get an error message with the word "sound" on it,i blame it on amarok.
[04:11] <kordo> BlueEagle, now i did :)
[04:11] <NickGarvey> chespirito: could you pate the error?
[04:11] <vem0m> can u get it thu apt-get or adept?
[04:11] <BlueEagle> kordo: Good now click and drag to mark the text in the browser. Then go to the gedit window and click your middle button below the last line you've got there. This should in theory past the content of the generated sources list into your gedit window.
[04:11] <NickGarvey> chespirito: paste*
[04:12] <whyami> chespirito: I built cinelerra for ubuntu awhile back. I wish I documented. If I remember right, it is trying to build for esd? I think you do something like ./configure --disable-esd (unless you really want esd...) do ./configure --help, maybe or if that doesn't work, edit the configure file and look for the options.
[04:12] <chespirito> FATAL: can't create i686/soundtest.o: File or directory not gound.
[04:12] <chespirito> found* :P
[04:12] <chespirito> it didnt say gound anyway,i translated from portuguese.
[04:12] <whyami> I like gound....
[04:12] <chespirito> whyami, what is esd?
[04:12] <BlueEagle> gound is good for you!
[04:12] <gnomefreak> !pt
[04:12] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:12] <chespirito> i don't know what gound is
[04:12] <farky> how can i share a connection?
[04:12] <vem0m> chespirito can u get it thu apt-get or adept?
[04:12] <NickGarvey> chespirito: ah, well, then you need to get that, and I have no idea how to do so.. so I think.. google would be your best (only) bet
[04:12] <chespirito> gnomefreak, i dont need ubuntu-br,i know english :P
[04:13] <kordo> BlueEagle, cant understand
[04:13] <whyami> chespirito: esd is the enlightenment sound daemon, that gnome seems to like. It's been nothing but trouble for me. In any case, I vaguely remember that I couldn't make either, and then I configured without esd and all was ok.
[04:13] <kordo> cant just i copy/paste?
[04:13] <chespirito> whyami, I'll try it
[04:13] <BlueEagle> kordo: That is what I am telling you to do.
[04:14] <BlueEagle> kordo: The quick way is to mark the text to copy it and click the middle button to paste it. :)
[04:14] <ardchoille> Anyone know how to get an app launcher on the desktop?
[04:14] <kordo> u sayd drag :)
[04:14] <ardchoille> the xfce desktop
[04:14] <chespirito> another doubt,is gound a real word?
[04:14] <kordo> blue
[04:15] <whyami> chespirito: not that I know of. BTW which source for cinelerra did you pick up? There are a couple...
[04:15] <kordo> BlueEagle, this quick doesnt work.copy/paste did
[04:15] <chespirito> whyami, i tried --disable-esd and the error was the same,the source i picked up was...
[04:15] <chespirito> 2.1
[04:15] <BlueEagle> kordo: Ok, well that can happen. The important thing is that your source.list is in your gedit window.
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> why dont you marry it then. :P
[04:15] <BlueEagle> kordo: now save that file.
[04:15] <BlueEagle> kordo: If you closed synaptic before please open it again now.
[04:16] <whyami> chespirito: is there another error earlier that perhaps you aren't noticing becuase it doesn't break the make process?
[04:16] <vem0m> lol i would if i wasn't engaged to my lovely bride to be
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> vem0m,  run away!
[04:16] <snoops> Would anyone know anything about mapping mouse buttons?
[04:16] <kordo> BlueEagle, safe and open
[04:16] <whyami> chespirito: but where did you get this source? I think there's a fork in the source development.
[04:16] <chespirito> i got that one on sourceforge
[04:16] <vem0m> NO!
[04:16] <vem0m> :P
[04:17] <BlueEagle> kordo: Hang on, I will just need to check this setting.
[04:17] <ssuehr> can you do an 'iptables -nL' from the ipcop machine to see what it's doing differently than your custom rules?
[04:17] <whyami> chespirito: also, just so you know, there is a #cinelerra room
[04:17] <kordo> BlueEagle, oks
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> snoops,  ive seen quite a few gentoo wiki pages that cover  the MD518 and other mice - in aganozing details.:)
[04:17] <chespirito> in this server?
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> oops mx518
[04:17] <whyami> chespirito: tes.
[04:17] <whyami> I mean yes
[04:17] <kitsuneofdoom> I need to get the xorg-driver-fglrx package version
[04:17] <chespirito> i'll try asking for help there
[04:17] <kitsuneofdoom> 2.24.8
[04:17] <vem0m> brb all
[04:17] <kitsuneofdoom> 8.24.8 I mean
[04:18] <whyami> chespirito: so you are SURE you are reporting the first error and there isn't another one earlier in the build that you haven't noticed?
[04:18] <snoops> Dr_Willis haha.. I'm wondering if it's possible to map two buttons to the same function.. say middle click and left click both map to 'left click'
[04:18] <kitsuneofdoom> I need to get the xorg-driver-fglrx package version 8.24.8 instead of 2.26.18 which is the recent version
[04:18] <XVampireX> Big problem on elm street
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> snoops,  yes it is. i did that a long time ago.. and amazing thing was the windows drivers would NOT let me do that
[04:18] <XVampireX> My microphone doesn't want to work
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> snoops,  i had a hurt finger so i made the thumb button click :P
[04:18] <spades> snoops you can keysm with xmodmap iirc
[04:18] <chespirito> whyami, there is actually another error in the make.
[04:18] <whyami> chespirito: and that would be...
[04:19] <chespirito> make -f build/Makefile.cinelerra
[04:19] <chespirito> sh: -c: line 1: sintaxe error: unespected "end of file"
[04:19] <technel> snoops, So, yeah. Ubuntu is now booting, (hd1,2) worked, but Windows it just says unrecognized partition type
[04:19] <XVampireX> Hi
[04:19] <XVampireX> Can anyone help me with the microphone?
[04:19] <whyami> chespirito: and is there an error before that one?
[04:19] <snoops> spades oh how would I use keysm? Like I've tried xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 4 5..etc" but when I try xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 4 2..etc" for instance, the difference being 2 is used twice I'll generate an error
[04:19] <chespirito> whyami, no
[04:20] <whyami> chespirito: can you paste the entire output of the make before it breaks?
[04:20] <whyami> into the pastebin, that is?
[04:20] <snoops> technel ah.. so I guess you need to keep trying different hd(number),(partition) until you find the windows one as well?
[04:20] <chespirito> sure
[04:20] <spades> snoops man xmodmap although im not 100% sure it will do mouse buttons with keysm, the syntax is in the man page
[04:20] <BlueEagle> kordo: now go to the Settings menu and click Archives
[04:20] <whyami> chespirito: do a make clean first
[04:20] <BlueEagle> he left. Can you all believe it?!??! He LEFT! :(
[04:21] <barongas> can anyone help me with getting cdemu or anything comparable that'll help me mount iso's bins etc?
[04:21] <chespirito> wow,big output,what does make clean mean?
[04:21] <vem0m> THANK GOD!
[04:21] <nalioth> BlueEagle: you can't smell the mutton?
[04:21] <snoops> spades oh umm the man is very small (I've read it) and it doesn't show any real examples for mice, except about just mapping different keys to different functions, eg replace this button with this one.. not using two buttons for the same thing
[04:21] <ssuehr> chespirito, make clean removes artifacts from a previous compile.
[04:22] <nalioth> chespirito: "make clean" puts the source directory back to the way it was when it was first extracted
[04:22] <whyami> chespirito: make always tries to start where it last left off. when you run make clean, it cleans up all the unfinished business and flags itself to start from scratch next time.
[04:22] <Bryan_3> hey everyone, need some help on this one, i am trying to start mozilla-thunderbird, an i am getting an error message that says that thunderbird is already running, but it is not, at least it is not in my process list, and i have already tried to reboot
[04:22] <snoops> but I'll have another look spades thanks
[04:22] <spades> snoops im not 100% sure on it but its worth a look
[04:23] <chespirito> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17136
[04:23] <dribble> does rhythmbox crapout/unkillably freeze on anybody else?
[04:23] <chespirito> there you go,"make" after i "make clean"ed :P
[04:23] <Ares> So far, no.
[04:23] <Ares> Rhytmbox is working fine for what I'm playing.
[04:23] <Ares> =)
[04:23] <technel> snoops, Well the Disks thing in Ubuntu says that it is Partition 1 -- I know it is on hd1 because it is on the same hard drive as Ubuntu...so why doesn't (hd1,0) work? I did try a few others, they didn't help
[04:23] <juztin> what command would i use to mount /dev/hdb to /storage if hdb is fat32?
[04:23] <arapehl> I need some serious CDROM/CDRW mounting help from someone who really knows their stuff.... PLEASE!!!
[04:23] <technel> dribble, I just started using it as well, haven't had any problems
[04:24] <spades> snoops maybe see if imwheel can do that
[04:24] <dribble> technel, harumph.  it's been givin' me tons of grief
[04:24] <Ares> You sure you have the codecs and stuff?
[04:24] <farky> where can i find the debian package for ndiswrapper?
[04:24] <skavenge> ndiswrapper is in the repos
[04:24] <skavenge> why do you need the .deb
[04:24] <farky> to put it on a computer without internet
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> snoops,  i  just followed that gentoo wiki.. lets see if it worked.. :P brb
[04:25] <nalioth> farky: packages.ubuntu.com
[04:25] <skavenge> ndiswrapper is on the cd
[04:25] <Hobbsee> farky: it's on the ubuntu cd
[04:25] <farky> thanks
[04:25] <arapehl> Anyone?
[04:25] <farky> Hobbsee: it is?
[04:25] <barongas> I'm going to need my kernel source package, anyone know what repository I need?  I can't find 2.6.15-25-386...
[04:25] <skavenge> yes it is
[04:25] <Hobbsee> farky: yep
[04:25] <ardchoille> arapehl: cd's should mount automatically.. mine do
[04:25] <chespirito> and is there anything similar to cinelerra for ubuntu?
[04:25] <skavenge> 'ndis-utils'
[04:25] <arapehl> ardchoille: heh, I wish mine did.
[04:26] <dad> could someone help me with wine?
[04:26] <chespirito> or anything similar to adobe after effects,or combustion,actually,the softwares i used on winblows
[04:26] <farky> Hobbsee: thank you
[04:26] <juztin> chespirito, i got cinelerra to run with ubuntu
[04:27] <Bryan_3> hey everyone, need some help on this one, i am trying to start mozilla-thunderbird, an i am getting an error message that says that thunderbird is already running, but it is not, at least it is not in my process list, and i have already tried to reboot
[04:27] <whyami> chespirito: I dunno...I'm still thinkin'
[04:27] <whyami> chespirito: are you on dapper or breezy?
[04:27] <bimberi> barongas: linux-source is the package
[04:27] <ardchoille> arapehl: the settings to auto-mount a cd are in System -> Preferrences -> Preferred Applications
[04:27] <chespirito> dapper
[04:27] <nalioth> Bryan_3: killall mozilla-thunderbird
[04:27] <chespirito> juztin, how? :P
[04:27] <barongas> bimberi thanks
[04:28] <snoops> spades I had a look at imwheel - seemed really crappy! but this seems kind of right.. using keysym, and xev to find out the button keycode of the mouse then writing a rule to remap it
[04:28] <ardchoille> arapehl: the first tab
[04:28] <bimberi> barongas: np :)
[04:28] <juztin> chespirito, it was on another install that is now gone...but if i remember correctly, i downloaded it from the website and installed it :P
[04:28] <barongas> bimberi, was looking for the right numbers... too easy :)
[04:28] <XVampireX> gstreamer-properties-Message: Error running pipeline 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture': Could not open resource for reading. [gstalsasrc.c(526): gst_alsasrc_open (): /pipeline0/alsasrc1:
[04:28] <XVampireX> Recording open error: Invalid argument] 
[04:28] <juztin> chespirito, however, it ran a little slow due to my lack of necessary ram (i only have 256)
[04:28] <SixtyWatt> I am freaking beyond impressed with Ubuntu. This is my first day using it.
[04:28] <XVampireX> Please help
[04:28] <ardchoille> arapehl: sorry, it's in Removeable Drives and Media
[04:29] <akarimco> wheee, howdy
[04:29] <chespirito> juztin, the problem is that i can't compile it
[04:29] <akarimco> i just posted this question to the forums, but I thought someone might be able to lend a hand in here
[04:29] <Bryan_3> nalioth: see that is just the thing, there are no process to kill
[04:29] <akarimco> my laptop is trying to burn my lap ever since I switched to Ubuntu
[04:29] <juztin> chespirito, why not?
[04:29] <chespirito> i do ./configure,and it all goes fine,than on make,i receive a message error about "i686/soundtest.o"
[04:30] <nalioth> Bryan_3: then some of your mozilla-thunderbird files may be mis permissioned or something
[04:30] <arapehl> ardchoille: All the mount checkboxes are checked... which means there's aproblem somewhere and the drives don't mount automatically ... hence the reason why they won't mount manually either. I need to figure out what's wrong and fix it first :(
[04:30] <juztin> chespirito, might wanna take that to the cinelerra forums...i bet they could help
[04:30] <_grout> im trying to mount a volume but it keeps asking me to specify the file system
[04:30] <Bryan_3> nalioth: so is there some simple way to deal with it?
[04:30] <juztin> chespirito, it looks like a pretty decent video editor, except for the horrible icons they use for their effects :P
[04:31] <ardchoille> arapehl: ahh, nice job of tracking that down on your part :)
[04:31] <Bryan_3> i try to reinstall from the repos
[04:31] <juztin> chespirito, they look like they were drawn by a 12 year old with MS Paint
[04:31] <dad> I installed wine from the add/remove programs thing, but its not showing up in the applications>office menu.  can anyone help?
[04:31] <chespirito> juztin, well,if i wanted nice icons,i'd be on winblows :P
[04:31] <barongas> _grout,  mount -t filesystem file
[04:31] <whyami> chespirito: there is an unofficial .deb binary for cinelerra, at least for breezy. You could look around and see if they have one for dapper yet...
[04:31] <juztin> chespirito, lol, gotcha :D
[04:31] <chespirito> whyami, gonna look for it,thanks
[04:31] <akarimco> :/
[04:31] <juztin> chespirito, that's how i did it, what whyami just said
[04:31] <nalioth> Bryan_3: not sitting in front of your box, i'd not know
[04:31] <arapehl> ardchoille: I haven't done too much on my own actually... ToHellWithGA has been helping me.
[04:31] <Toma-> cinelerra is being considered for edgy, iirc at motu
[04:31] <Bryan_3> :)
[04:32] <bimberi> dad: it's not an application per se.  you use it to run win32 apps, for example using the command 'wine freecell.exe'
[04:32] <nalioth> Bryan_3: you might try irc.mozilla.org  #thunderbird
[04:32] <dad> okay thanks
[04:32] <whyami> chespirito: I just found it.
[04:32] <ToHellWithGA> ardchoille: he's having trouble mounting the drives period
[04:32] <Matrikz> can anyone tell he how i can properly compile gaim beta 3 on ubuntu?
[04:32] <bimberi> dad: by the way you configure it with the 'winecfg' command
[04:32] <bimberi> !winer
[04:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about winer
[04:32] <bimberi> !wine
[04:32] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:32] <chespirito> whyami, really?all i found was some packages for debian
[04:32] <technel> snoops, So, yeah, when I pick the correct partition Ubuntu says the partition type was unknown or something and then there are a bunch of messed up characters, like smilies and other symbols
[04:32] <dad> okay thanks
[04:33] <snoops> technel err which partition?
[04:33] <technel> snoops, the windows one
[04:33] <ardchoille> ToHellWithGA: ahh, ok
[04:33] <akarimco> I guess I can wait for a reply to my forum post... thanks
[04:33] <whyami> chespirito: http://lprod.org/deb/dapper/. You need to edit you /apt/sources list and add deb /http://lprod.org/deb/dapper/ ./ as well as deb-src http://lprod.org/deb/dapper/ ./
[04:33] <Ares> Sorry =?
[04:33] <BlueEagle> matrikz: As a general rule of thumb: If you do not know how to compile a piece of software you ought to be using the pre-compiled and packaged (ie. non-beta) software provided in the repositories. As for building from source build_essential is required.
[04:33] <BlueEagle> !build_essential
[04:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about build_essential
[04:33] <BlueEagle> !build_essentials
[04:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about build_essentials
[04:34] <BlueEagle> hmm
[04:34] <ToHellWithGA> !info build-essential
[04:34] <chespirito> hold on whyami.
[04:34] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[04:34] <BlueEagle> thankyou tohellwithga
[04:34] <whyami> chespirito: then you do an apt-get update then finally apt-get install cinelerra
[04:34] <ToHellWithGA> BlueEagle: it's a dash, not an underline
[04:34] <Matrikz> well Ubuntu is the only distro that i haven't been able to get gaim 2.0 beta 3 to compile on
[04:34] <ToHellWithGA> cheers
[04:34] <Matrikz> which is why i asked
[04:34] <chespirito> can you please give me an example with one of the files?
[04:34] <dad> wow, that wine thing is amazing
[04:34] <chespirito> i should do...
[04:34] <chespirito> deb /http://lprod.org/deb/dapper ./
[04:34] <chespirito> and then deb-src...?
[04:34] <whyami> chespirito: have you edited /etc/apt/sources.list before?
[04:35] <technel> snoops, Any ideas?
[04:35] <arapehl> ardchoille: do you have any experience troubleshooting cdrom/rw mounting?
[04:35] <chespirito> yes
[04:35] <ardchoille> arapehl: no, sorry, they've always just wokred for me.
[04:35] <whyami> chespirito: okay then just add 2 lines. The first is: "deb http://lprod.org/deb/dapper/ ./" (without the quotes)
[04:35] <newbuntu> Can anyone here please help me, im trying to convert downloaded avi movies to vcd or dvd, basically so I can watch them on my DVD player & TV ... I'm trying without luck to find a single application that can do the conversion.
[04:36] <arapehl> crap
[04:36] <whyami> newbuntu: use tovid and tovidgui
[04:36] <arapehl> ardchoille: okay, well thanks anyway :)
[04:36] <juztin> what's that really good partitioning program that starts with a 'g' ?  :P
[04:36] <whyami> juztin: gparted
[04:36] <Toma-> newbuntu: qdvdauthor will work
[04:36] <juztin> whyami, thats it, thanks :)
[04:36] <newbuntu> whyami thanks i'll try that
[04:36] <arapehl> anyone? out of the 721 ppl here, SOMEONE MUST know how to troubleshoot CDR and CDRW mounting! PLEASE!
[04:36] <winner> hey
[04:36] <BlueEagle> Why does aptitude hold libcairo2 back. It sais 1.1.10-0ubuntu1 is installed and that it is holding back the "upgrade" 1.0.4-0ubuntu1 (dapper).It sais it's because of libfreetype6 or something.
[04:37] <Toma-> newbuntu: basically, converting to avi to dvd requires you to "Author" a dvd. you can googling "dvd authoring ubuntu" if you want, but qdvdauthor will be the best bet
[04:37] <winner> i'm trying to install ubuntu, but during the partition process i get stuck with "resize operation failure"
[04:37] <winner> what should i do?
[04:37] <chespirito> whyami, i'm downloading cinelerra
[04:37] <Ares> Hmm, what are you trying to resize?
[04:37] <chespirito> thank you very very much,wow!
[04:37] <Ares> That was at winner.
[04:37] <lefty> hey i downloaded the ubuntu iso(PPC) and its 702mb which i can't write to cd. Why is this? anyone know what i can do
[04:38] <winner> Ares: i'm trying to resize one of my hard drive partitions to make room for an installation
[04:38] <newbuntu> toma- thanks im going there now
[04:38] <whyami> newbuntu, Toma-: I have to disagree. qdvdauthor does a nice job but it is hard to use and buggy. tovidgui is fast, quick, painless and...doesn't give you as much control with menus and such.
[04:38] <ardchoille> arapehl: does the cd drive appear in the hardware browser?
[04:38] <Ares> Winner: Whats currently on it?
[04:38] <winner> Ares: my windows xp partition lol
[04:38] <arapehl> ardchoille: yep... just doesn't mount
[04:38] <Toma-> whyami: ok then. i use it flawlessly to create multi-movie dvds
[04:38] <ardchoille> arapehl: tried mounting as root?
[04:39] <Atomic_UE> Is there a simple way of downloading software/updates using one ubuntu machine, then slipstreaming those updates to other ubuntu machines on the network? or getting them to retrieve them from the first machine?
[04:39] <whyami> Toma-: okay. Sorry. I guess you mileage is different than mine. :-)
[04:39] <arapehl> ardchoille: yeah, all it does is comes back to the prompt... no errors nothing!
[04:39] <Atomic_UE> This way you're not constantly downloading the same thing
[04:39] <Ares> Winner: So, do you only have one hard drive?
[04:39] <arapehl> ardchoille: where's a log file I can check?
[04:39] <winner> Ares: no i have two
[04:39] <ardchoille> arapehl: /var/log/messages
[04:39] <Ares> Winner: The one you are trying to resize, is it all used space?
[04:39] <winner> Ares: no theres quite some free space
[04:40] <Toma-> whyami: newbuntu, if its simple and all you need, then use it. for a full featured authoring system (probably not needed) use qdvdauthor
[04:40] <arapehl> ardchoille: thanks, checking now
[04:40] <lefty> hey i downloaded the ubuntu iso(PPC) and its 702mb which i can't write to cd. Why is this? anyone know what i can do?
[04:40] <Ares> Winner: Damn, and you defraged the disk before firing up cfdisk or gparted?
[04:40] <whyami> chespirito: you are doing this with an apt-get install?
[04:41] <chespirito> whyami: yes
[04:41] <winner> Ares: no. damn. is that going to be a problem? should i go back to windows and defrag?
[04:41] <winner> Ares: or, actually, is there a way to defrag while in the installation state?
[04:41] <whyami> chespirito: let us know...
[04:41] <Ares> Winner: I hear it always helps, either then that I really don't know =P [No way to defrag in installation state that I know of :(] 
[04:41] <arapehl> ardchoille / ToHellWithGA: "Jul  3 22:31:46 desktop kernel: [55884.692313]  cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!"
[04:41] <ardchoille> arapehl: blank disc?
[04:41] <wheelswitch> how do i open programs up into another workspace from the command line?
[04:41] <wheelswitch> is there an argument?
[04:42] <winner> ahh alright. im going to go see if it'd be better after i defrag it. thanks Ares :)
[04:42] <arapehl> ardchoille: last I tried it was a commercial CD (Norton Anti-Virus in my CDRW and ATI Radeon Drivers in my CDR)
[04:42] <Ares> Winner: No problem, but I'm not really smart with Linux :O
[04:42] <cjones> does anybody in hear know wine very well
[04:42] <ardchoille> arapehl: wow
[04:42] <technel> snoops, This is the error I am getting: filesystem type unknown partition type 0x7 from http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml (GRUB error 17)
[04:42] <wheelswitch> cjones:  what do you want to know?
[04:42] <ToHellWithGA> ardchoille: i figured if he tried commercially pressed data discs they should recognize easiest
[04:43] <cjones> well i am installing a game and as it loads the files the file names are in arabic
[04:43] <juztin> i am trying to mount a hard disk to /storage .... when i try, i get this message : "mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /storage busy" ...  it isn't mounted....what do i do to make /storage not busy?
[04:43] <ardchoille> ToHellWithGA: yeah, that's what I'd have done too. I think the drive itself has a problem reading.
[04:44] <BlueEagle> technel: 0x7 is HPFS/NTFS file system.
[04:44] <ToHellWithGA> ardchoille: he said the drives worked under windoze, so there must be something deeper
[04:44] <cjones> wheelswitch i am installing a game and as it loads the files the file names are in arbic
[04:44] <ardchoille> ToHellWithGA: Really? ok, yeah, something's amiss
[04:44] <technel> BlueEagle, Yeah, I am trying to boot into Windows. But I am getting that error
[04:44] <chespirito> whyami, it's running!
[04:45] <wheelswitch> cjones:  not somthing ive seen before, sorry.
[04:45] <chespirito> I don't know whether it is good or not,but that's another thing :P
[04:45] <BlueEagle> technel: I see. Could you put your menu.lst on ubuntu.pastebin.com?
[04:45] <BlueEagle> or !pastebin
[04:45] <technel> BlueEagle, Absolutely, one second
[04:45] <whyami> chespirito: excellent! Have fun with it. I found it a bit buggy but worth putting up with. It's pretty powerful. I haven't used 2.1...
[04:45] <ToHellWithGA> \begin{CarTalk}technel: i think i've found your problem.  you're trying to boot into windows\end{CarTalk}
[04:46] <winner> is there a list of what wine is capable of running?
[04:46] <Pr0n> my friend has a ubuntu box at his house and i can ssh into it, where can i find a guide to installing vnc through ssh...?
[04:46] <wheelswitch> how do i open a program in another workspace from the command line, is there an argument?
[04:46] <ToHellWithGA> winner: winehq.com
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> winner,  check the wine homepage..  i doubt if theres a definitive list
[04:46] <chespirito> whyami, you should receive a Noob Savior award or something.
[04:46] <ToHellWithGA> there is a good list called AppDB
[04:46] <purserj> quick question, who would I need to speak to about finding out if the realplayer package in multiverse is "official" as in Real Media has approved it?
[04:46] <GrubChub> hi there, when I run apt I sometimes get some dependancy errors, can these dependancies usually be installed through apt?
[04:47] <whyami> chespirito: thanks. I got SO MUCH help here when I was starting out...
[04:47] <arapehl> I'm getting the following errors with my CDR/CDRW drives ... http://pastebin.ca/78444 ... can anyone help?
[04:47] <technel> ToHellWithGA, I had Microsoft as much as the next guy, but still some things for work and games aren't available on Linux
[04:47] <technel> !pastebin
[04:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:48] <chespirito> whyami, i received a lot of help here in my first weeks,now I'm using it a little less for problem solving
[04:48] <technel> BlueEagle, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17137
[04:48] <cjones> wheelswitch are you there?
[04:48] <siriusnova> i need help recompiling wpa supplicant for my patched madwifi drivers, can anyone help?
[04:48] <ToHellWithGA> technel: yeah man.  i feel you on that.  i can't run Sony's jukebox software to transfer to my minidisc now :/
[04:48] <siriusnova> please
[04:48] <siriusnova> :(
[04:48] <wheelswitch> cjones:  yeah
[04:48] <GrubChub> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:48] <GrubChub>   linux-image-2.6.12-9-386: Depends: initramfs-tools (>= 0.17) but it is not going to be installed
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> Games are for the Weak.
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:48] <Pr0n> my friend has a ubuntu box at his house and i can ssh into it, where can i find a guide to installing vnc through ssh...??
[04:48] <barongas> I'm trying to figure out why I don't have a /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/build folder... I installed linux-source.. do I need to dpkg it or something? can't remember how to do these things...
[04:48] <whyami> chespirito: now if only there where I channel like this so I could figure out how to fix my car...
[04:48] <abstractism> Dr_Willis: ya rly
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> Pr0n,  sudo apt-get install vncserver
[04:48] <BlueEagle> technel: sata, scsi or ide disks?
[04:49] <chespirito> whyami, hahahahaha.
[04:49] <deshantm> hi, any recommendations on digital camera software?
[04:49] <ToHellWithGA> Dr_Willis: winmine.exe runs great under WINE.  it's the best computer game ever anyway so i don't need windows to play games
[04:49] <Pr0n> do i need root access or not?
[04:49] <cjones> wheelswitch i am installing a game and the words are in arabic can i show you a screenshot
[04:49] <technel> BlueEagle, Both partitions are located on my SATA drive -- I have an IDE drive as well, but it is just storage
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> Pr0n,  to install somthing - of course.
[04:49] <ToHellWithGA> deshantm: you'll have to be more specific
[04:49] <ToHellWithGA> photo editing?
[04:49] <chespirito> whyami, real life should have things like irc or google.
[04:49] <whyami> deshantm: I know this is lame but I use picasa under wine...
[04:49] <chespirito> as a very funny quote on bash.org says,i need to find my socs :P
 cjones:  not somthing ive seen before, sorry.
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> Pr0n,  or you could use the Xming stuff under windows to have remote X apps show up on your windows box.
[04:49] <Gareth1> Pr0n, yes you would (sudo means to run something as root, it will prompt you for the root password)
[04:49] <chespirito> socks*
[04:49] <deshantm> i just acquired a Kodak DC3400
[04:50] <ToHellWithGA> lol @ acquired.  5 finger discount, deshantm ?
[04:50] <cjones> thanks anyway
[04:50] <deshantm> just want to be able to use the format functionality
[04:50] <Ares> When you type in your root password as "sudo" in Terminal, is it suppose to come up with * or absolutely nothing?
[04:50] <deshantm> a gift
[04:50] <ToHellWithGA> Ares: nothing i think
[04:50] <hareem> does any one know how to setup ubuntu to work in an internet cafe enviroment
[04:50] <BlueEagle> technel: I see. Well it has been my experience with the SIS sata chip that grub is unable to see the difference between (hd0) and (hd1) between the 1st, 2nd and 3rd stage.
[04:50] <deshantm> from a friend who got a new one
[04:50] <Gareth1> Ares, nothing - it doesn't echo what you're typing
[04:50] <GrubChub> anyone have any suggestions for resolving depandancy issues? can they usually be installed through apt? or do you usually have to hunt for them?
[04:50] <BlueEagle> technel: That might be what causes your alement. Are you booting from your IDE drive or your SATA drive?
[04:50] <BlueEagle> technel: (ie which mbr is read)
[04:50] <whyami> deshantm: after picasa...I suppose you could use GQview. I don't think any of them are great...
[04:50] <deshantm> ubuntu did fine with getting the pics off it... thats not a problem
[04:50] <Ares> Anyway to echo what I'm typing, or a way to echo that I am infact typing, I always mess up. :(
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> hareem,  ya may want to clarify that statement as to what you are tryign to do.
[04:51] <whyami> deshantm: so what do you want?
[04:51] <skeen> I just tried to install Ubuntu but it froze at the last moment. I noticed that the harddrive had heated so much that I couldn't touch it for anymore than a second. Is this the likely cause? Do I need a new fan?
[04:51] <hareem> well sir i am trying to setup a ubuntu or kubuntu cyber cafe
[04:51] <nick_> grubchub, I usually use the X front end... Adept to solve these issues
[04:51] <Gareth1> Ares, I don't believe so unfortuantely - it's coded into the sudo program I think
[04:51] <deshantm> which app would you think could support "format"
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> skeen,  fans are always good.
[04:51] <BlueEagle> skeen: How much RAM is on your box?
[04:51] <deshantm> i.e. delete pictures
[04:51] <skeen> 512MB
[04:52] <technel> BlueEagle, Booting from SATA drive. I had a HUGE issue with installing GRUB with that second hard drive (it was like 4 or 5 pages of forum posts on ubuntuforums.org), but I ended up just unplugging it and installing GRUB. It worked great, but then I went into my BIOS and did the "Switch to Default Options & Save", and then somehow this stuff got messed up.
[04:52] <Ares> Garth1: Just sudo, or every box? It seems to mimic that behavior in Slackware.
[04:52] <GrubChub> thanks nick :)
[04:52] <whyami> deshantm: the programs I named will work. Also EOG (eye of gnome) is built into gnome and you could just use nautilus to look at the thumbnails and delete etc. is this what you want?
[04:52] <BlueEagle> skeen: Well then you shouldn't be swapped to death. But a fan for a single harddrive is usually not required unless you've insulated it or covered the breathing hole(s).
[04:52] <ToHellWithGA> skeen: can you move the hard drive away from other hot parts of your PC?
[04:53] <ToHellWithGA> i put my primary hard drive as low and far from other warm stuff as possible
[04:53] <hareem> can ubuntu be setup so that the users sessions expires after a certain time
[04:53] <BlueEagle> technel: Check that your sata boot rom is enabled in the bios.
[04:53] <deshantm> whyami, thanks i will look into those
[04:53] <Gareth1> Ares, it's the same for every distribution that uses GNU code (which sudo is a part of)
[04:53] <BlueEagle> technel: I think it should be but it doesn't hurt to check.
[04:53] <skeen> Im not really referring to a harddrive fan...but the general fan in the box, whatever thats called.
[04:53] <nick_> grubchub if you want, you could quickly see what that package depends on by typing apt-cache depends {insert package name} | less
[04:53] <Ares> Gareth1: [Damn]  Thanks though.
[04:53] <BlueEagle> technel: it might be labled as "raid boot rom" or "raid rom" in the BIOS.
[04:54] <Gareth1> Ares: yeah, it's a pain - bit confusing for a first time user
[04:54] <skeen> When I put my hands in front of it...I can hardly feel anything. Its pretty much useless. Is overheating associated with freezing?
[04:54] <Gareth1> Ares, you could use gksudo come to think of it
[04:54] <nick_> grubchub, but adept does this also by going into detail on the package your trying to install
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> It can be
[04:54] <SixtyWatt> I cannot get wmv videos to play in firefox. I have tried everything listed in the guide.
[04:54] <Ares> Gareth1: Explain? I just started using Ubuntu today.
[04:54] <skeen> Jack_Sparrow...I saw Johnny Depp today. :)
[04:54] <siriusnova> can anyone help me with recompiling wpa supplicant ?
[04:54] <SixtyWatt> I even installed mplayer plugin which worked on my other desktop
[04:54] <technel> BlueEagle, This is a HP computer, they have a really different BIOS than I am used to. Would it be under like when you go to Disk Management, select a disk, and it shows the options for it?
[04:55] <Gareth1> Ares, try running "gksudo synaptic" - you should get a fancy GUI prompt window for the password (which will echo * when you type)
[04:55] <grte> Ares: gksudo is like sudo, except that instead of having to type it into a terminal, a graphical prompt will pop up and ask you to enter your password.
[04:55] <BlueEagle> technel: Either that or somwhere around integrated peripherals.
[04:55] <Gareth1> hm I wonder
[04:55] <Gareth1> !gksudo
[04:55] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[04:55] <Pr0n> ive forgotten my root password, but i can login on my normal account, how can i get my root passwrd?
[04:56] <skeen> lol @ Pr0n...
[04:56] <spades> Pr0n sudo passwd and set a new one
[04:56] <grte> He can't.
[04:56] <guest> hellow channel
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Pron there is no Root password... Use Sudo
[04:56] <grte> He can't login to his normal account.
[04:56] <BlueEagle> Hello guest.
[04:56] <hareem> does any one know how to setup ubuntu to work in an internet cafe enviroment
[04:56] <technel> BlueEagle, Alright, I will look for it
[04:56] <BlueEagle> technel: Good luck
[04:56] <Ares> Gareth1: Oh wow, pretty, to bad I hate the choppy fade :(
[04:56] <spades> grte reread that, he can login, unless he typo'd
[04:56] <grte> Ah.
[04:57] <Jack_Sparrow> hareem:  Any specifics on what you need
[04:57] <Gareth1> Ares, glad to hear it worked for you - about the choppiness, are you using an older machine? or perhaps you are using the incorrect video drivers
[04:57] <siriusnova> can anyone help me with recompiling wpa supplicant to support my patched madwifi drivers ? the wpa options dont exist in Network Manager anymore so i am assuming i need to recompile wpa supplicant
[04:57] <Ares> Gareth1: I'm using a Nvidia GeForce4 with 512mb ram and the driver I got was from the "Easy Ubuntu" script.
[04:57] <guest> looking advice  ...  thinking of installing a lamp server  is there a package that is  1 good package for admining all  ?
[04:58] <jon_> As "root" how do I access my "home/username" folder in the terminal
[04:58] <spades> cd /home/username
[04:58] <hareem> well jack i want to setup a ubuntu cyber cafe. So that my clients come in get a ticket  and use any ubuntu machine for the time on their ticket
[04:58] <gumpish> cd ~username
[04:58] <grte> cd ~
[04:58] <grte> cd ~username, yeah.
[04:58] <Ares> What does cd stand for again?
[04:58] <gumpish> change dir
[04:58] <skavenge> change directory
[04:58] <guest> change dir ??????
[04:58] <spades> guest you can use webmin as a portal but im not sure if its pretty
[04:58] <Ares> Der, thanks.
[04:59] <BlueEagle> spades: webmin is no longer in the repositories afaik.
[04:59] <jon_> "cd~username" worked, thx for helping me out, I'm a noob
[04:59] <skavenge> !webmin
[04:59] <Gareth1> heh Ares we were all new once
[04:59] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[04:59] <spades> BlueEagle he can compile it :)
[04:59] <grte> Ares: Check out linuxcommand.org
[04:59] <Ares> Its not that I don't know some commands, I know them, its that my memory is absolutely horrible.
[04:59] <guest> ah looking something  i can install on to the  box and run from it
[04:59] <hareem> any help
[04:59] <BlueEagle> spades: He can, but it is depreciated. (I still use it to set up shorewall tho=
[04:59] <living> hi, i have two mouse installed here (a PS2 and a USB) but only one of them is enabled when I boot. and what's worse is that I cannot choose which one to enable (it looks random). is there any way i can choose which one to use (without unplugging them) or, even better, use both?
[04:59] <grte> Ah.
[04:59] <BlueEagle> )
[04:59] <Gareth1> I can never remember uname when I need it
[05:00] <gumpish> living: just for kicks, why do you need both?
[05:00] <NickGarvey> "uname -r" is kernel
[05:00] <NickGarvey> uname -a is everything
[05:00] <NickGarvey> thats all you really need
[05:00] <BlueEagle> living: what gumpish asked
[05:00] <ToHellWithGA> gumpish: akimbo mousing pwns
[05:00] <Gareth1> yeah, I know - I just forget the command NickGarvey
[05:00] <gumpish> lol
[05:00] <Ares> I only need three commands, sudo, gedit, and ls. Moving in terminal makes me feel tired :O [Perhaps I'm lazy?] 
[05:00] <sjhill> omg
[05:00] <NickGarvey> Gareth1: ah ;)
[05:00] <uboyo> did anyone notice that dapper's xorg is choppy?
[05:00] <living> BlueEagle, gumpish: i am used to the trackball mouse while my mom is used to the "typical" mouse
[05:00] <grte> Lazy?
[05:00] <uboyo> mouse movement stutters
[05:01] <grte> GUI is good for moving files from one folder to the other.
[05:01] <gumpish> living: the trackball is PS/2?
[05:01] <sjhill> is there a channel specific to ubuntu and wireless adapters?
[05:01] <grte> For everything else, terminal is the lazy way.
[05:01] <grte> It just takes learning.
[05:01] <hareem> can ubuntu be used in an internet cafe enviroment
[05:01] <living> gumpish: yes
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> hareem:  WHat software would thry use if youwere running windows?
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Just trying to see the features you are after
[05:01] <guest> !lamp server
[05:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about lamp server
[05:01] <hyphenated> living: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[05:01] <NickGarvey> !lamp > guest
[05:02] <hareem> well quite simply i would use windwos 2003 server and xp as client
[05:02] <Gareth1> !women
[05:02] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[05:02] <Gareth1> damn, was hoping for something else there
[05:02] <BlueEagle> hareem: I do not know of a package in the repository that will do what you are asking. You will need to search the internet. However Ununtu is just as suitable for installing those packages, however support on those packages is done by the provider (unless anyone here has got any experience with them)
[05:02] <hareem> domain controller would do this job. But windows means that i have to cough up $4500 to Microsoft
[05:02] <NickGarvey> I have read that women howto thing
[05:02] <barongas> anyone know where the kernel source directory ends up after download linux-source?
[05:02] <Jack_Sparrow> hareem: How you manage the amount of time
[05:02] <living> hyphenated: sure.  done -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17138
[05:03] <guest> samba not be set up as a domain controler ?
[05:03] <hareem> well i can just remote log off the user
[05:03] <hareem> i really dont need to time stamp them
[05:03] <hareem> in windows atleast
[05:03] <living> hyphenated: right now, the USB mouse is working. sometimes it is the PS2 that works
[05:03] <gumpish> Ok, is there a package that monitors the status of a host and mails you when it stops responding to ping?
[05:04] <Gareth1> hareem, that'd be quite difficult with anywhere more than 10 stations
[05:04] <hareem> well how would i do it with 10 stations Gareth1
[05:04] <BlueEagle> hareem: Have you installed ubuntu yet? I see there is a package named "pessulus" that might be what you're after.
[05:04] <Ares> Hey, can anyone time check Texas? I think my BIOS messed up Ubuntu's time. [Again] 
[05:04] <siriusnova> can anyone help me with recompiling wpa supplicant to support my patched madwifi drivers so i can use wpa via Network Manager?
[05:04] <abstractism> its 10:04 here
[05:04] <Ares> Ok, thanks.
[05:04] <GaiaX11> hareem, I think you need to set up cron
[05:05] <abstractism> welcome, at least I can help a little bit here
[05:05] <Ares> Abstractism: Haha, don't worry, I'm sure you help out tons =)
[05:05] <hyphenated> living: yeah, that's the "Configured Mouse" section of it. if you had a section for the PS/2 mouse, and it was listed in the "ServerLayout" section, then they'd both work together.
[05:05] <hareem> but how would i be able to contoll the stations
[05:05] <technel> Sorry, who was helping me again?
[05:05] <Ares> Technel: wait a second, I'll look =P
[05:06] <living> hyphenated: but wouldn't that section get cleared on next reboot? i mean, it looks like ubuntu reworks the xorg.conf file on every boot, doesn't it?
[05:06] <abstractism> Ares: nah, I just got here today and couldn't find anyone to help me get my mac formatted CD-ROMs working
[05:06] <BlueEagle> !info pessulus
[05:06] <ubotu> pessulus: lockdown editor for GNOME. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 52 kB, installed size 728 kB
[05:06] <Ares> Technel: BlueEagle was helping for a bit... and maybe someoen else to.
[05:06] <GaiaX11> GaiaX11, hareem I think from the server.
[05:06] <technel> Ares, Ah, yes, that's right. hyphenated started, then snoops, and now BlueEagle
[05:06] <hyphenated> living: what does ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf say?
[05:06] <sjhill> hmm, no help for wireless here i guess
[05:06] <technel> BlueEagle, I was not able to find that in the BIOS =\
[05:07] <Ares> Technel: What was your problem again? Unable to find the Windows partition?
[05:07] <hyphenated> technel: google for details about HP bios and how to configure LBA mode for your disk in it. it should be there somewhere
[05:07] <living> hyphenated: heh. looks like it doesn't rework it ;)
[05:07] <hareem> so i can use a normal ubuntu desktop to act as server right
[05:07] <BlueEagle> hareem: msg
[05:08] <technel> Ares, At this point I am 99% sure it is on (hd1,0), but it gives the error that the partition couldn't be read or something -- 0x7
[05:08] <sjhill> not much better than debian
[05:08] <nedss_> hey all...
[05:08] <goethe> how do i check which services are currently running on my machine??
[05:08] <technel> I have a picture of the error, one second
[05:08] <hareem> ok i have that installed but i would have to manually make lock down changes on all pc;s
[05:08] <BlueEagle> technel: Ok. You could attempt to install grub to your ide disc and boot from that perhaps?
[05:08] <hyphenated> living: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17139 <-- my touchpad (basically a PS/2 mouse using synaptics driver instead of whatever it is) and a USB mouse play together fine
[05:08] <BlueEagle> technel: Not sure if that will work at all tho.
[05:08] <nedss_> trying to use vnc...and am getting a blank screen w/ an X whats wrong?
[05:08] <dibblego> how do I generate an ISO from a Ubuntu CD? I have the CD but it is scratched up
[05:08] <GaiaX11> hareem, there is a ubuntu cd server in distrowatch
[05:08] <hareem> is there any way i can centrally control my users
[05:08] <BlueEagle> technel: just for kicks: try setting your windows root to (hd0,0)
[05:09] <abstractism> speaking of which
[05:09] <zcat[1] > dibblego: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=ubuntu.iso
[05:09] <hareem> yeah but that cd is LAMP--- what would i be doing with apache installed
[05:09] <nedss_> trying to use vnc...and am getting a blank screen w/ an X whats wrong?
[05:09] <dibblego> gah, I knew that too, thanks
[05:09] <BlueEagle> technel: it should not work for any logical reason but after all it's windows we're trying to boot. :)
[05:09] <living> hyphenated: thankyou a lot :) i'll do some tests now and come back in a few minutes with the bad or good news
[05:09] <GaiaX11> hareem, go there download it and install it
[05:09] <abstractism> can anyone help me get my mac formatted discs working?
[05:09] <nedss_> don't have physical access to the machine
[05:09] <hyphenated> living: you'll have to change the driver for the synaptics section. I can't remember what it should be changed to
[05:09] <nedss_> but do have ssh access
[05:09] <Ares> Technel: Please, come back it works, I really want to know if 0,0 does in fact work for no reason [aswell] :P
[05:10] <BlueEagle> technel: other than that installing windows to the primary master IDE drive will in most cases cure your problem because that's where windows "wants to be"(tm) :)
[05:10] <living> hyphenated: "PS/2" i guess. or "ImPS/2"
[05:10] <heimdall_> Hi
[05:10] <technel> BlueEagle, Over the course of a month of asking in here and on ubuntuforums.org, it was determined that a bug in Ubuntu/GRUB does not work if your OS is on a SATA drive and you have an IDE drive installed
[05:10] <Ares> Oh! You have a SATA and an IDE installed?
[05:10] <hyphenated> living: for Protocol, yes. but you also need Driver set correctly ;-)
[05:11] <Ares> I could have told you that!
[05:11] <technel> Ares, BlueEagle, Here is the weird error: http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/720/000019pt.jpg
[05:11] <BlueEagle> ares: Thing is that I had a sata+ide setup and it didn't matter if I specified (hd0,0) or (hd1,0) it booted the same partition in every case.
[05:11] <living> hyphenated: ah, heh. "mouse" should do i guess :P
[05:11] <hareem> i checked that ubuntu server has no central user control
[05:11] <Ares> I know a fix to that bug.
[05:11] <technel> BlueEagle, Here is the thread I have been referring to if you are interested: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179908
[05:11] <Ares> I think.
[05:11] <hareem> who ever suggested this. You can check for your self to
[05:11] <BlueEagle> technel: oh oh oh!
[05:11] <Ares> Technel: Switch to Lilo.
[05:11] <hyphenated> or psmouse. I can't remember. give it a whirl.
[05:11] <BlueEagle> technel: in your menu.lst change root (hd0,0) to rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[05:12] <kramer_> Does anybody know how to change the default web browser
[05:12] <BlueEagle> or make it hd(1,0) since that was what you had. :)
[05:12] <heimdall_> I got a problem after upgrading to dapper from breezy, my laptop is sleeping without warning
[05:12] <BlueEagle> technel: in your menu.lst change root (hd1,0) to rootnoverify (hd1,0)
[05:12] <Tonren> 'Sup #ubuntu.
[05:12] <BlueEagle> tonren: the opposite of down. :)
[05:12] <technel> BlueEagle, Alright, doing it now
[05:12] <abstractism> hi tonren
[05:12] <heimdall_> as if the energy saver function was on, but no :/
[05:12] <Ares> Tonren: Hello.
[05:12] <Tonren> BlueEagle: You will pay for your tomfoolery
[05:13] <BlueEagle> tonren: I already do. :)
[05:13] <Tonren> hahaha
[05:13] <Tonren> Hey, doe sanyone have any experience installing a 32bit chroot on 64bit arch?
[05:13] <BlueEagle> tonren: It's true. Each month I pay various operators a bribe so they won't kick me when I'm off topic like now. :p
[05:13] <Ares> BlueEagle: How much?
[05:13] <siriusnova> anyone know how to recompile wpa supplicant to support new madwifi drivers?
[05:13] <Tonren> BlueEagle: You do what you've gotta do.
[05:14] <hareem> by the way is there a domain controller for ubuntu or kububtu
[05:14] <BlueEagle> ares: I pay "an undisclosed amount"(tm) to keep them happy. (hint: The currency is cookies)
[05:14] <Ares> BlueEagle: What type? I must pay off a few people, and do they pay for postage? :O
[05:14] <snoops> binding mouse buttons to other mouse buttons anyway? I've been struggling with it for a couple days now
[05:14] <abstractism> for dapper x64, are there any good voip apps other than ekiga and twinkle?
[05:14] <kalosaurusrex> !vfat
[05:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[05:15] <noiesmo> any apt-get guru's here trying to work out what i need to remove to let apt-get install a package that has dependany problems
[05:15] <snoops> for which protocol abstractism?
[05:15] <BlueEagle> abstractism: skype runs on linux. Not sure if they've got x64 arch yet tho.
[05:15] <Tonren> So, no one's done a 32bit chroot?
[05:15] <living> hyphenated: ok, done! :) thankyou very much
[05:15] <hareem> guys is there a domain controller for ubuntu or kubuntu
[05:16] <Tonren> I knew I shouldn't have installed the freaking 64bit version.  But now I don't know what to do to properly install the other version.
[05:16] <Ares> BlueEagle: Ok, I think an operator will kick me soon, so BlueEagle, anyway to help me change my menu.lst to boot Windows first and have Ubuntu selected etc? [Details will be explained] 
[05:16] <heimdall_> is anyone has an idea for my problem ,
[05:16] <Tonren> heimdall_: What's buggin' you?
[05:16] <hyphenated> living: working? sweet
[05:16] <abstractism> I checked skype.com earlier today and there's just i386
[05:17] <IdleOne> !skype
[05:17] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[05:17] <technel> BlueEagle, It just showed the screen like before, no error, but it was just the screen with the funky characters at the bottom
[05:17] <Tonren> abstractism: You're running 64 bit?  What do you do about Macromedia Flash?
[05:17] <Ares> Abstractism: The joys of 64.
[05:17] <technel> BlueEagle, Maybe I just need to reinstall GRUB?
[05:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Ares: so edit your menu.lst
[05:17] <Ares> Jack_Sparrow: I'm to much of a weeny after screwing up all my other bootloaders.
[05:17] <technel> BlueEagle, What was thing you were telling me to change in the BIOS earlier?
[05:17] <BlueEagle> technel: That might help.
[05:17] <heimdall_> Tonren : since I've upgraded to dapper, my laptop is sleeping without warning :/
[05:18] <abstractism> Tonren: I havent got that running either
[05:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Ares: to make windows default it just as easy as movi it up to the top of the list
[05:18] <BlueEagle> technel: The sata raid controller might need to be active or the sata boot rom. Everything named sata perhaps?
[05:18] <Tonren> abstractism: It's driving me up the wall.  I'm tired of not being able to see stuff on Youtube!  I'm not sure if I want to scrap it and install 32bit, or install a 32bit chroot!
[05:18] <BlueEagle> :p
[05:18] <Tonren> heimdall_: That's dreadful.  Is it SLEEPING or shutting down?  Can you "wake it up" again once it sleeps?
[05:19] <BlueEagle> hareem: A "domain controller" is a windows NT thing. What you probably want is a file and printer server isn't it?
[05:19] <heimdall_> yep I can wake it up
[05:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Ares: copy your grub/menu.lst to #Jack_Sparrow
[05:19] <heimdall_> Tonren : but I can't figure out why it is sleeping
[05:19] <Tonren> heimdall_: Hmm... you should snoop around Ubuntu resource sites, like the forums.  I'll bet you that someone else has had this problem.
[05:19] <abstractism> Tonren: yeah its a pain, but I probably won't scrap it..I have a windows machine thats running 32bit xp pro, because they fail
[05:19] <hareem> well is there any alternative domain contoller for linux. Or something similar to domain controller in ubunut or linux world
[05:19] <heimdall_> Tonren : I did, I found nothing on the forum
[05:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Ares: To edit it go to term sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:20] <BlueEagle> hareem: ...unless you want to have windows machine logging on to your network that is. Then you'll need something like samba or something.
[05:20] <abstractism> Tonren: multiple computers for the win :)
[05:20] <Tonren> abstractism: I have one too, it's sitting right next to my laptop at the moment.  But it's SUCH a hassle to get the URL from an IM window on one screen to the other, you know?
[05:20] <abstractism> yeah, it is
[05:20] <Tonren> abstractism: I actually have three computers within five feet of where I am this second, that I own.  Hehehe.
[05:20] <halitus> i have 4  :P
[05:20] <spades> i have 500
[05:21] <BlueEagle> hareem: Linux can replicate any and all features of the nt domain controller afaik. However I cannot guarantee that you will find a GUI for setting up everything.
[05:21] <SurfnKid> :D
[05:21] <abstractism> Tonren: I originally wanted a mac, windows, and linux machine, but finances and reality tell me that two computers is kinda enough.
[05:21] <Ares> Yeah, I just got booted.
[05:21] <siriusnova> anyone know how to recompile wpa supplicant :(
[05:21] <hareem> well i am ok with a command line version as well
[05:21] <Tonren> abstractism: Hehe, probably.
[05:21] <hareem> whats the name of the linux domain controller blue eagle
[05:21] <IdleOne> !wpa
[05:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:22] <SurfnKid> abstractism maybe 3 computers, 1 for radio listenin 1 for business and 1 for games :P
[05:22] <abstractism> they're both amd64 anyway
[05:22] <BlueEagle> hareem: samba and ldap should suffice for most implementations unless I am mistaking.
[05:22] <abstractism> eventually I'll get tired of PC gaming and install linux on that other one anyway
[05:22] <BlueEagle> hareem: The question is if using a samba network is "the right way"(tm) to go when you're on an all linux network.
[05:23] <halitus> oh hey how can i find my ip adress in ubuntu  anything simmilar to ipconfig /all??
[05:23] <hareem> so samba is the controller or is samba a file print sharing system
[05:23] <BlueEagle> hareem: Still it would be nice to offer wireless (or even wired) access for people with laptops and windows and in such a case samba and ldap would be fitting.
[05:23] <spades> halitus ifconfig
[05:23] <SurfnKid> where can i get information on modifying the way packets are sent in and out
[05:23] <hyphenated> halitus: ifconfig
[05:23] <abstractism> SurfnKid: hehe, a gamer
[05:23] <halitus> thank you
[05:23] <SurfnKid> yep
[05:24] <dad> does anyone know of a program that could convert from avi to gif?  all i've been able to find has been for windows
[05:24] <hareem> so how can i offer wifi authentication
[05:24] <BlueEagle> hareem: samba can do many things like being the master file/printer browser and replicationg an nt domain controller.
[05:24] <hareem> ok thats great
[05:24] <hareem> i will check up with some links to see how samba is setup. I have heard its a pain in the ***
[05:25] <tich> where would i find a list of ubuntu compatible (laser) printers?
[05:25] <technel> BlueEagle, How do I get it to re-generate the config file? I did "sudo grub-install /dev/sda1" but it didn't overwrite the file
[05:25] <kalosaurusrex> tich: http://hplip.sourceforge.net is a good start :)
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> tich:  HP 1100 work great
[05:25] <BlueEagle> hareem: That is another issue. What springs to my mind is to have the router that accepts wifi keep track of each connection in some way.
[05:25] <hareem> so how can i setup wifi service for my cafe
[05:25] <BlueEagle> technel: I am guessing: sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub
[05:25] <spades> tich see whats on the cups compat list?
[05:25] <alindeman> I've just read over the Java wiki entry about installing the firefox plugin, but I cannot find a package named sun-java5-plugin ... am I missing something?
[05:26] <hareem> ok. so you know how to install chillispot on kubuntu
[05:26] <dad> does anyone know of a good video editor for ubuntu?
[05:26] <BlueEagle> hareem: Don't know of any packages that does that but I cannot see any reason for there not being such a piece of software.
[05:26] <spades> tich http://www.cups.org/ppd.php
[05:26] <BlueEagle> !info chillispot
[05:26] <ubotu> Package chillispot does not exist in dapper
[05:26] <abstractism> dad: you're not my dad!
[05:26] <hareem> altight thanks for the help
[05:26] <Travis|T60> How do I install Ubuntu Dapper Drake without writting to the MBR? I have a laptop with a recovery partition and if I modify the mbr it will get screwed up so I just want to put the boot data on a /boot partition and I will put it in my other bootloader
[05:26] <abstractism> hehe
[05:26] <dad> yes i know, its my account name
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[05:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Grub floppies
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> No floppy... boots to windows
[05:27] <Bot_Builder> dad - sadly, it seems like vid editing, general manipulation is severely lacking in linux
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> No one even knows there is another OS
[05:27] <dad> well all i want to do is convert a clip from avi to gif
[05:27] <tich> thanks all!
[05:27] <Tonren> Hey guys, how do you know when the new version of an app will hit the repositories?  I am aching for amaroK 1.4.1, but it seems like it hasn't hit the repos yet.
[05:27] <Bot_Builder> oh, well that you could probably do
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> Travis|T60: I think you can skip the Grub installation step...  I have one of those recovery partitions too, and installed Grub, then fixed the error so that it still works, so if you go that route, it is possible.
[05:28] <Ares> Bot_Builder: I remember one vid editing software that was amazing, but lacked a community and documentation and was like blender3d in terms of easy to use.
[05:28] <elknof1> does anyone knows whats the meaning if difussion gate??  its in advanced prefferences of ethernet...
[05:28] <dad> well I searched around and didn't find anything... but i'll try installing stuff and looking into the features
[05:28] <snoops> you could build it from source Tonren
[05:28] <Tonren> snoops: I know, I know.  But I'm lazy!  Besides, I built 1.4.0 from source and it crashed all the freaking time.
[05:29] <Bot_Builder> ares - huh, that's odd, if it was good i wonder why there wasn't a community
[05:29] <Bot_Builder> seems to me like its a rather large gap in the wall of linux killer apps
[05:29] <kitsuneofdoom> Ok, I have a Broadcom 5
[05:29] <Ares> Bot_Builder: It was new, and you would be surprised at how many projects are out there without communities.
[05:29] <Travis|T60> tonyyarusso I just need to make sure nothing touches the MBR because this laptop is a loaner so I can't screw it up
[05:29] <abstractism> eubey d00by whooooo
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> Travis|T60: Loaner from who?
[05:29] <Travis|T60> lenovo
[05:29] <Travis|T60> t60 thinkpad
[05:29] <kitsuneofdoom> Ok, I have a Broadcom 54g Wireless card. I've managed to find the windows driver. Now how the heck to I get a wireless internet connection?
[05:30] <kitsuneofdoom> I'm using ndiswrapper
[05:30] <SurfnKid> kitsuneofdoom breezy or Dapper
[05:30] <BlueEagle> hareem: you might be able to install the .deb files directly. Download it and try to install them.
[05:30] <BlueEagle> hareem: You will also need a radius server and a webserver apperantly.
[05:30] <Ares> Travis: If worse comes to worse you could get a recovery console cd and type fdisk /mbr [or fdisk \mbr]  I can't remember which.
[05:31] <hareem> this is for chillispot rite
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> fdisk /mbr is right
[05:31] <kitsuneofdoom> SurfnKid: Dapper. I should mention this in my intro...heh
[05:31] <Travis|T60> Ares that wouldn't work thought because the recovery partitions bootloader is in the mbr, but I guess I will take the risk
[05:31] <SurfnKid> oh
[05:31] <snoops> Travis|T60 you can make a backup of the mbr and restore it later
[05:31] <BlueEagle> hareem: yes.
[05:31] <Travis|T60> snoops how would I do this?
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> Travis|T60: Why is Lenovo loaning you a laptop?  Anyway, mine's a T43.  I'm trying to remember what your options are for skipping grub installation...you might need to use the Alternate CD and try to bypass it.
[05:32] <SurfnKid> kitsuneofdoom should have picked it up i guess as eth1, last time i installed,  try ndiswrapper if not the other way
[05:32] <hareem> yeah. i am going through the free radius setup. Man this is complicated
[05:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Travis|T60: There is the ultimate boot cd ... google it
[05:32] <Fitzz> how do i paste in xterm? :p
[05:32] <SurfnKid> !bcmwl5
[05:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about bcmwl5
[05:32] <BlueEagle> hareem: http://www.chillispot.org/download/chillispot_1.0_ok_i386.deb would be the stable version afaik.
[05:32] <SurfnKid> !ndiswrapper
[05:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:32] <snoops> Travis|T60 from terminal.. "dd if=/dev/thehddhere of=/home/mbr.bak bs=512 count=1"
[05:32] <BlueEagle> hareem: notice that since these were buildt for debian they might not work on ubuntu but odds are that they will.
[05:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Travis|T60: IT boots and has fdisk and many many other useful tools for partitioning and then some
[05:32] <SurfnKid> kitsuneofdoom try that
[05:32] <kitsuneofdoom> thanks
[05:32] <Travis|T60> tonyyarusso yeah I read about using the alternative cd, the laptop is being loaned for a review
[05:33] <BlueEagle> technel: any luck?
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> Travis|T60: The only thing that you can't do with grub installed to the MBR is use the Access IBM button to get at that function; you can still make a fully functional Grub menu item to boot it.
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> Travis|T60: Oh, cool.
[05:33] <Fitzz> !xterm
[05:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about xterm
[05:33] <Travis|T60> snoops gotcha
[05:33] <hareem> can i get freeradius of the repos
[05:33] <Ares> Jack_Sparrow: Does it have cfdisk? [Or was it sfdisk?] 
[05:33] <SurfnKid> is anyone in the houston area?
[05:33] <BlueEagle> !info freeradius
[05:33] <ubotu> freeradius: a high-performance and highly configurable RADIUS server. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.1.0-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1343 kB, installed size 4252 kB
[05:33] <Jack_Sparrow> free-fdisk
[05:33] <BlueEagle> hareem: yes
[05:33] <Travis|T60> ok
[05:33] <hareem> i heard ubuntu is based on DEB. but maybe im wrong
[05:33] <mooseman447> hey
[05:33] <Travis|T60> well I'll play around
[05:33] <Travis|T60> later
[05:33] <Jack_Sparrow> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[05:33] <BlueEagle> hareem: it is
[05:34] <Ares> hareem: It's a fork.
[05:34] <snoops> Travis|T60 that'll backup the boot info as well as partition table. If you want to ignore the partition table change bs=512 to bs=446.. and to restore it "dd if=/home/mbr.bak bs=512 count=1" (if it's the 512 one, other wise change bs to 446)
[05:34] <hareem> fork ?
[05:34] <spades> split from it
[05:34] <spades> like a fork in the road causing you to turn
[05:34] <Bot_Builder> It would be really nice if nautilus would ask you for the root password (using gtksudo or whatever it was), when you try to do illegal ops
[05:34] <Ares> Hareem: It was forked [split]  off of the Debian tree.
[05:34] <tonyyarusso> Ares: Spoon!  Hehe.
[05:35] <snoops> whoops, that dd is totally out of whack
[05:35] <hareem> oh.. well in that case they should have kept some parent properties
[05:35] <hareem> oh well time will tell
[05:35] <BlueEagle> hareem: a fork in this term is when someone takes a base of something and continues to develop it in their own way regardless of what is done with the original software.
[05:35] <hareem> ok
[05:35] <Bot_Builder> branch is more of a cooperative thing
[05:35] <BlueEagle> hareem: it's one fo the blessings (or curses if you whish) of the open source world.
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> dd = dangerous in the wrong hands
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> snoops: I suggested a spec that the installation should allow for auto backup of the MBR (I think Suse has this).  Hopefully this will get simpler.
[05:35] <snoops> tonyyarusso cool beans
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> Ares: (See Mark Shuttleworth's personal page on the wiki)
[05:36] <HighHopes> Hello! I need help... Is it possible to change default text-mode from 80x25 to (e.g.) 132x50 characters? ...
[05:36] <Ares> Tony: Is it another recursive antonym or whatever? Last time someone explained G.N.U. I went into a six month coma.
[05:37] <Gareth1> hah like WINE Ares?
[05:37] <snoops> anyone have any idea how I can bind mouse buttons to mouse buttons?
[05:37] <Ares> Gareth1: Don't be evil. DONT BE EVIL
[05:37] <NickGarvey> would patching your kernel be better than recompiling it?
[05:37] <kalosaurusrex> hareem: ubuntu is based on debian.  and uses deb packages.
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> Ares: Na, it's his response to "Is Ubuntu a fork of Debian?"  "Yes, no, it's a spoon, maybe" or something like that.
[05:37] <BlueEagle> nickgarvey: patching a kernel implies compiling it.
[05:37] <Ares> Tony: Lol, I get it =P
[05:37] <wweasel> I'd like to make my Desktop folder in another location, as in not ~/Desktop. How would I do that?
[05:37] <NickGarvey> BlueEagle: so whats the difference between getting the kernel source and the patch?
[05:38] <hareem> ok
[05:38] <hareem> good
[05:38] <Gareth1> NickGarvey, it's not patching in the windows sense, it's basically adding some modifications to the linux source before compiling
[05:38] <Bot_Builder> wweasel - have you tried a symbolic link?
[05:38] <BlueEagle> nickgarvey: 1st you get the kernel source then you get the patch then you merge the patch with the kernel source then you compile the pathced source.
[05:38] <NickGarvey> Gareth1: ah.. so I can just compile a new one if I am lazy?
[05:38] <SurfnKid> question
[05:38] <BlueEagle> answer
[05:38] <hareem> listen i used the repos to install ldap and freeradius
[05:38] <Gareth1> NickGarvey, yes
[05:38] <SurfnKid> how can i compile my kernel to have APM support
[05:38] <Ares> Bot_Builder: Can you explain a sym link, I hear it, I hear its wonderful, I have no idea what or how to use it
[05:38] <NickGarvey> Gareth1: ok, thank you
[05:38] <hareem> how can i manage them
[05:38] <SurfnKid> :P
[05:39] <wweasel> Bot_Builder: I just made one. It worked, but no icons appear on my desktop. If I go into my home folder and click the symbolic link it brings me to the right place. Perhaps I should restart X?
[05:39] <NickGarvey> Ares: man ln
[05:39] <Ares> Nick: Roger.
[05:39] <NickGarvey> Ares: actually, the man file isn't that good
[05:39] <Ares> Nick: Info better?
[05:39] <Bot_Builder> wweasel - yeah, restart nautilus or X
[05:40] <wweasel> alright
[05:40] <NickGarvey> Ares: a sym link acts like the file you link too, but unlike a hard link, when you delete the original file, a sym link won't work
[05:40] <wweasel> btw, how do I exit a man page?
[05:40] <NickGarvey> Ares: its a link to the reference, instead of a copy of the reference
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Symlink = Windows Shortcut
[05:40] <ardchoille> wweasel: press the "q" key
[05:40] <Fitzz> wweasel, "q"
[05:40] <Bot_Builder> Ares - yeah, i used one the first time today - its like a windows shortcut but kicks more ass
[05:40] <Ares> Nick: So its basically every single href link?
[05:40] <wweasel> brilliant. Bot_Builder: brb, restarting x
[05:40] <Gareth1> heh Ares if you want something really bad, check out the HURD acronym meaning http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Hurd
[05:40] <Ares> Nick: like*
[05:40] <NickGarvey> Ares: um.. yes pretty much
[05:41] <Ares> Nick: Sorry, I'm very crude.
[05:41] <Bot_Builder> Ares - the difference is that to a program on linux the file is actually whatever it points at
[05:41] <FatchaMaCallitz> sorry guys.. can I ask a quick question?
[05:41] <BlueEagle> ares: a symlink (symbolic link) is a "shortcut" to another file somewhere else in the filesystem. It is used by issuing the ln command to create the symlink.
[05:41] <chariscomp> Hello, I am having a problem when attempting to install xubuntu. I am using the alternate install CD. When I get to the section of the installation that deals with partitioning, I am attempting to use the software RAID and setup RAID 1 mirrors of all partitions. However, once I have created my partitions and marked them as physical volume for RAID and choose Setup RAID, the setup seems to...
[05:41] <chariscomp> ...hang. Does any one have any suggestions on how to get it past this point? Thanks for any help. If this is not the right place to ask this, please tell me where to ask this question.
[05:41] <wheelswitch> is there a way i can open up a program in a different workspace from the command line?
[05:41] <Bot_Builder> So you can read to/from a symbolic link, and it is the data that is in the file it links to
[05:42] <BlueEagle> chariscomp: you can also try #xubuntu
[05:42] <Ares> Bot: Explain that again, I didn't get it.
[05:42] <Fitzz> what is the key to paste to xterm?
[05:42] <Ares> Bot: Like... is the best Windows reference a "short-cut" or whatever?
[05:42] <chariscomp> ok, I'll try that. Thanks, BlueEagle!
[05:42] <BlueEagle> chariscomp: but thankyou for taking time to formulating your question so thuroughly. I am sorry I do not know the answer for you. :)
[05:42] <FatchaMaCallitz> I've installed Ubuntu, however when I try to boot from HD, my screen is spammed with the word grub (i know its the bootloader)
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> SHift ctrl-v?
[05:43] <spades> shift
[05:43] <spades> shift+insert *
[05:43] <Fitzz> yeah Jack_Sparrow ... it does work on gnome-terminal but not in xterm
[05:43] <wweasel> Well, it worked. I am very happy. Now Linux and Windows share both Firefox and Thunderbird profiles and Desktops.
[05:43] <Bot_Builder> Ares: In windows, if you had a shortcut to a text file, and opened it in notepad, you'd get the shortcut data - some format that stores the location of the file it links to.  In linux, any program that accesses a symbolic link will get the data of the file it links to
[05:43] <BlueEagle> fatchamacallitz: This is in most cases due to a failed installation of grub. Often caused by the 2nd stage not being found where grub expects it to be.
[05:43] <Fitzz> oh yeah.. totally forgot that one.. thanks spades !
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> I switched to Knoversation, I couldn't take X-term
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Kon
[05:43] <darkyoshi372> My status thingy (whatever the system tray is called) is messed up. Sometimes an icon or two disappear, leaving a permanent space until I refresh the panel, and the limewire/frostwire icons are always squished. What's going on?
[05:44] <Bot_Builder> Also, I think that symbolic links are updated when you move the destination around, but i'm not sure
[05:44] <BlueEagle> fatchamacallitz: What you need to do is to boot from you CD and mount the partition containing /boot (either a separate partition or it's on your / partition)
[05:44] <Ares> Bot: So if I open up... lets say an icon that sym links to menu.lst it would have menu.lst's information?
[05:44] <BlueEagle> fatchamacallitz: then get your menu.lst file and post it to pastebin
[05:44] <FatchaMaCallitz> sorry blue
[05:44] <FatchaMaCallitz> i'm a linux noob
[05:45] <BlueEagle> fatchamacallitz: you will find an IRC client on the live cd and alternate cd (xchat or irssi if I remember correctly)
[05:45] <Ares> Fatacha: 500 of the people in this room probably are.
[05:45] <FatchaMaCallitz> ok i'm in windows right now.. brb ima run to my linux box
[05:45] <FatchaMaCallitz> kk?
[05:45] <BlueEagle> fatchamacallitz: ok. First up: Are you using the live cd or the alternate install cd?
[05:45] <FatchaMaCallitz> its a live boot
[05:45] <Bot_Builder> Ares - yep, and the program would think it was reading and writing to the sym link file, but really its not, the reading/writing is being forwarded through it.  Its like an internet proxy
[05:45] <hayden> anyone help me with my monitor, i am dual booting with windows with a 17inch crt 1280x1024 60hz, and when i change from windows the screen is not in the right place an i have to manually center the screen properly in ubuntu, is there a way to resolve this?
[05:45] <BlueEagle> fatchamacallitz: ok. Boot up the live cd and start an IRC client. xchat or irssi will do. Then connect here.
[05:46] <FatchaMaCallitz> righto, gimmie 3 min.. brb as Fatcha2
[05:46] <kane_> Hi, im using ubuntu dapper, with madwifi and my connection seems to drop pretty often, when this happens i am unable to start it back up w/o a reboot, using kwireless assistant it says it appears an external switch has been turned off...
[05:46] <kane_> any idea?
[05:46] <technel> How do I rename files in linux from cmd line? "rename old new" always gives an error
[05:46] <abstractism> for hayden's problem, I think that might be in xorg.conf
[05:46] <FunnyLookinHat> kane_, do you use network-manager
[05:46] <BlueEagle> hayden: You might be running a different resolution/refresh rate in linux. If you've got an on-screen display on your monitor you will probably find the current vertical refresh rate (vsync) in th emenu.
[05:46] <FunnyLookinHat> That could fix it...
[05:47] <BlueEagle> the menu*
[05:47] <snoops> technel mv old new
[05:47] <StickyBit> technel: mv oldname newname
[05:47] <technel> BlueEagle, So at this point, what do you think I should do?
[05:47] <abstractism> I never had that problem since I have LCDs
[05:47] <technel> ah, thanks
[05:47] <BlueEagle> technel: not dualboot with windows? :p
[05:47] <Ares> How do I exit a man page again? [I'm so God damn forgetful] 
[05:47] <StickyBit> Ares: "q"
[05:47] <hayden> BlueEagle: they are both 1280x1024@60hz
[05:47] <technel> BlueEagle, Seriously, it worked like 2 hours ago
[05:47] <Ares> Sticky: I so new that... Thanks.
[05:47] <Shigun> I am having an issue with flash, where it will play a couple of seconds, then just stop.  Anybody experienced it/know how to fix it/have a recommendation?
[05:48] <StickyBit> Ares: when in doubt ctrl+c kills a process
[05:48] <technel> BlueEagle, I went through every BIOS page, I never saw that thing you were talking about
[05:48] <BlueEagle> technel: One alternative is to set up lilo. There you have got a lower level control of which harddrive uses what. However it's very very very easy to bork your system with lilo.
[05:48] <Smoxie> hey all. i just downloaded the latest ubuntu release and am installing it on my new laptop. i go 'start or install ubuntu', it goes through a few screens, but when it gets up to the actual install part (it plays the welcome sound), the screen goes black and nothing seems to happen. im guessing this is bad resolution settings, so anyone any idea how to fix?
[05:48] <NickGarvey> when I update my kernel, what might break? I know my wireless ndiswrapper driver will, anything else?
[05:48] <Ares> What was the logic in Ctrl-C? :\
[05:48] <NickGarvey> Ares: I know?! copy = break!?
[05:48] <Ares> Nick: I don't get it, but I'm laughing either way.
[05:49] <NickGarvey> heh yeah
[05:49] <BlueEagle> smoxie: are you able to press CTRL+ALT+F1 to get a console?
[05:49] <spades> Ares hes referring to windows copy being ctrl+c
[05:49] <Smoxie> BlueEagle: yes
[05:49] <Ares> Spades: Yeah, =P
[05:49] <BlueEagle> smoxie: try the command: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:49] <kane_> FunnyHat-Away, aye
[05:49] <Ares> Spades: Maybe the guy who did that shortcut was using the key placement of dvorak.
[05:50] <NickGarvey> Ares: c in qwerty is j in dvorak
[05:50] <Ares> Spades: He's only one off of K.
[05:50] <NickGarvey> Ares: and c in dvorak is i in qwerty
[05:50] <NickGarvey> aoeu ;)
[05:50] <wheelswitch> my ubuntu menu takes up too much space!, is there an easy way to change it? |Applications Places System|
[05:50] <Ares> Nick: Yep =) How do you know :O
[05:50] <BlueEagle> smoxie: any luck?
[05:50] <Bot_Builder> hmm, yeah i never thought about ctrl-C being odd.  It works as copy in most linux apps as well
[05:50] <StickyBit> ctrl+ c = cancel
[05:50] <NickGarvey> Ares: aoeuidhtns heh
[05:51] <Ares> Nick: Heh, I can only use the home row so far. :O
[05:51] <Smoxie> BlueEagle: stopping=ok, starting=fail
[05:51] <NickGarvey> Ares: oh I type with it normally
[05:51] <NickGarvey> Ares: works fine for me
[05:51] <NickGarvey> Ares: not sure how many wpm I type, but its pretty good, faster than most people for sure
[05:51] <BlueEagle> smoxie: I see. Have you tried enabling VGA safe mode when you boot?
[05:51] <Ares> Nick: Same here, I'm just not nearly as fast yet.
[05:52] <Shigun> Actually, flash is gimping everything now.  Causing my browser to freeze up.  Thoughts, anybody?
[05:52] <Ares> Nick: Damn, I'll give you a wpm checker when I can.
[05:52] <Smoxie> BlueEagle: no, but i shall. i trust its a menu option? ;o
[05:52] <NickGarvey> Ares: heh, I went from 70~ wpm in qwerty to dvorak though, HARD change
[05:52] <BlueEagle> smoxie: Yes, it's F4 or something on the boot screen.
[05:52] <Ares> Nick: I'm 120 in QWERTY
[05:52] <BlueEagle> smoxie: it should be listed at the bottom
[05:52] <Bot_Builder> NickGarvey - judging by your message times you type damn fast
[05:52] <NickGarvey> Ares: wow.. is that possible?
[05:52] <Ares> Nick: As long as I don't have to use any ,'s.
[05:52] <Smoxie> BlueEagle: ok thanks, i'll try that, bbs ^^
[05:52] <NickGarvey> Ares: 120... wpm.. or cpm...
[05:52] <NickGarvey> Bot_Builder: ;)
[05:53] <Ares> Nick: wpm.
[05:53] <Bot_Builder> I'm not going to learn dvorak though - then you can't use normal keyboards as well
[05:53] <Shigun> Nick: Its easily possible, I get around 116 WPM
[05:53] <BlueEagle> bot_builder: you :ca
[05:53] <snoops> Bot_Builder you can
[05:53] <NickGarvey> Shigun: naw...
[05:53] <Bot_Builder> hmm
[05:53] <BlueEagle> _can_ use qwerty after learning dvorak but it's not fun at all.
[05:53] <Ares> Bot: When you use Linux, you can't use Windows as well =P
[05:53] <Shigun> lol
[05:53] <snoops> I learnt dvorak awhile ago.. but it's a bit of a pain switching back and forth..
[05:53] <NickGarvey> Shigun: I mena I typed 70~ when I was 13.. but.. I don't see hitting 120 anytime..
[05:53] <NickGarvey> snoops: why do you need to switch back and forth?
[05:53] <snoops> memorised the home row for dvorak actually
[05:54] <Ares> I'm 14 and I got 120 wpm.
[05:54] <Shigun> Nick: Why not?
[05:54] <snoops> aoeuidhtns
[05:54] <Shigun> Anybody have a thought on this flash issue?
[05:54] <Ares> I memorised the home row to, I know the p g c r and y keys for upper row. Thats it.
[05:54] <snoops> NickGarvey because everyone else doesn't use dvorak
[05:54] <NickGarvey> snoops: so...?
[05:54] <Fatcha2> blue, ares.. back
[05:54] <StickyBit> Shigun: is it temporary or permanent?
[05:54] <BlueEagle> shigun: I've got lots of thoughts on flash and various issues with it but unfortunately none of them will help you with your problem. :)
[05:54] <Bot_Builder> NickGarvey: so, what if you use someone else's computer?
[05:54] <NickGarvey> Ares: over 3 minutes? I mean I hit 120 in a 12 second sprint.. but..
[05:55] <NickGarvey> Bot_Builder: linux or windows?
[05:55] <Fatcha2> ho-kay, blueeagle.. what did you want me to do?
[05:55] <snoops> so.. I'm not a recluse. I go around to peoples places, end up helping them with pc probs, and don't want to stuff around with remapping keys or gosh taking a keyboard with me
[05:55] <Ares> Oh, three minutes, Probably around 80 then.
[05:55] <Shigun> StickyBit: I can close FF, open it again, and it does the same thing
[05:55] <Ares> =P
[05:55] <NickGarvey> Bot_Builder: in linux, "setxkbmap dvorak"
[05:55] <Ares> I can do iono, a page of random babbling in 120wpm [Aim style] 
[05:55] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: I really don't remember. What was the problem again?
[05:55] <Bot_Builder> yeah, then you'll forget to switch it back and they'll have a messed up keyboard
[05:55] <NickGarvey> Bot_Builder: in windows, control panel > regional/language settings > something something...
[05:55] <Bot_Builder> probably go to the store and buy another
[05:55] <snoops> at work we have a lot of pcs.. I can bind my one to dvorak, but when I have to use another, which I do, then I need to switch back.. the world can't change for me
[05:55] <Bot_Builder> (I know it doesn't switch the keyboard actually)
[05:55] <NickGarvey> Bot_Builder: don't forget to switch it back!
[05:55] <Bot_Builder> but people might think it would
[05:56] <NickGarvey> Bot_Builder: although, this program "autohotkey" can remap it for you
[05:56] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: grub fails to install.. and when i boot my screen is spammed with GRUBGRUBGRUBGRUB
[05:56] <Ares> The worst thing so far is when I was playing Warcraft and it switched. My friend and I couldn't talk anymore. I'm like AOEU! AOEU!
[05:56] <Bot_Builder> nah, it's a hassle.  I can type as fast as I can think
[05:56] <StickyBit> Shigun: well in my experience flash on linux doesn't work very well in general. It's v7 and they just released v9. never had much luck with tht eplugin
[05:56] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: Ahh, yes.
[05:56] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: When you installed ubuntu did you choose a separate partition for /boot?
[05:57] <Bot_Builder> someone needs to make a programmer keyboard layout
[05:57] <StickyBit> Shigun: you could try deleting all your broswer cache and reinstalling the plugin
[05:57] <NickGarvey> Bot_Builder: I saw one once
[05:57] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: I made a swap partition and a / partion.. 2 parts total one ext3 and one swap
[05:57] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: Do you remember which partition is your root (/) partition?
[05:57] <Shigun> StickyBit: Did that
[05:57] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: ie /dev/hda5 or something
[05:57] <Fatcha2> hda1
[05:57] <Bot_Builder> NickGarvey: ooh, cool.  Symbol keys with no shift pressage :O
[05:57] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: hda1
[05:57] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: ok. please open a terminal window
[05:57] <Fatcha2> lol k
[05:57] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[05:57] <snoops> Bot_Builder someone did.. it was a called a touchstream lp, developed by fingerworks
[05:58] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: cd /mnt/boot
[05:58] <NickGarvey> Bot_Builder: you colud make one if you wanted
[05:58] <NickGarvey> Bot_Builder: you have a bunch of keymap files
[05:58] <StickyBit> Shigun: does it work well in your other broswers?
[05:58] <BlueEagle> gedit menu.lst
[05:58] <snoops> the company was bought, and a conspiracy is around who bought it - the concensus seems to be apple
[05:58] <NickGarvey> Bot_Builder: you can edit them pretty easy
[05:58] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: only root can do that >.<
[05:58] <Shigun> StickyBit: No other browsers
[05:58] <Ares> Does the away thing work?
[05:58] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: after which command?
[05:58] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: after mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[05:58] <Bot_Builder> nick - heh, yeah, but then I'd be even more screwed than if I just learned dvorak
[05:58] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt   <= that one?
[05:59] <NickGarvey> Bot_Builder: heh true
[05:59] <_with_a_y> kinda off topic but does anyone know how to create the newer, glassy-looking icons?  i'm not really a GIMP/Photoshop expert.
[05:59] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: did you remember "sudo"?
[05:59] <Ares> With: Check out gimptalk.
[05:59] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: oooh I thought you meant "so do"
[05:59] <] GoldenDragon> how do i find the device name of my keyboard(i dunno what its called.. should look like... " /dev/input/js0 "
[05:59] <Fatcha2> <<like I said.. noob
[05:59] <Shigun> Stickybit: Got it.  ln -s /tmp/.esd-1000 /tmp/.esd
[05:59] <_with_a_y> ares:  thanks.
[05:59] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: hehe :)
[05:59] <Bot_Builder> would be interesting to do keyboard analysis like what was used to create dvorak, only with code in various languages as data on frequency
[05:59] <StickyBit> Shigun: well i haven't experienced your problem, so i'm just guessing, but you could try to install another broswer and see if you get the same results (opera, konquer) if you do it's firefox
[05:59] <Ares> With: Not sure though, just check it out.
[06:00] <StickyBit> Shigun: cool.
[06:00] <foofoooo> does neone know how to  SAAFELY dual  boot windows  xp  & ubuntu ?   (i    tried the ubuntu boot loader with badger  with terrible results)
[06:00] <foofoooo> does neone know how to  SAAFELY dual  boot windows  xp  & ubuntu ?   (i    tried the ubuntu boot loader with badger  with terrible results)
[06:00] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: ok.. done.. i'm in the mnt dir
[06:00] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: gedit menu.lst
[06:00] <Ares> Bot: I remember seeing documentation on a QWERTY vs Dvorak battle. It was a computer algorithm making the "best" computer keyboard due to multiple peoples user inputs. The computer couldn't come up with a better Dvorak layout.
[06:00] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: now open a webbrowser and head to the pastebin site that ubotu sais
[06:00] <BlueEagle> !pastebin
[06:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:01] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: ok.. i'm at a blank doc
[06:01] <BlueEagle> you've got a blank doc?
[06:01] <jme> Is there a good way to identify the generic wireless card I'm using in my laptop?
[06:01] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: totally blank
[06:01] <BlueEagle> that's weird
[06:01] <BlueEagle> :(
[06:01] <Ares> Foo: I'm using XP and Ubuntu safely.
[06:01] <Bot_Builder> Ares - well, dvorak is undoubtadly better
[06:01] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: however that will explain the error. :)
[06:01] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: >.<
[06:01] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: no, wait. My bad.
[06:01] <johanbr> jme: lspci
[06:01] <BlueEagle> close the gedit window
[06:01] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: righto
[06:01] <Bot_Builder> QWERTY was actually designed to slow you down, unless thats just  an urban legend
[06:01] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: gedit grub/menu.lst
[06:02] <BlueEagle> that should help
[06:02] <Ares> Bot: Yeah, thats what I hear.
[06:02] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: right sec
[06:02] <BlueEagle> oh wait. You're in the /mnt directory?
[06:02] <Bot_Builder> But it's plenty fast for me
[06:02] <Ares> The only problem right now, when I use QWERTY is that I pound my keyboard to peaces.
[06:02] <foofoooo> does neone know how to  SAAFELY dual  boot windows  xp  & ubuntu ?   (i    tried the ubuntu boot loader with badger  with terrible results)
[06:02] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: make that: gedit /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:02] <Ares> Foo, yes. Use the regular install?
[06:02] <snoops> no it wasn't designed to slow you down. It was designed so certain key combinations weren't together so the OLD typewriter keys would not lock up when you pressed two commonly used keys together in quick succession
[06:02] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: rofl k
[06:02] <BlueEagle> :)
[06:02] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: Don't worry. I know exactly what I'm doing. :p
[06:02] <Ares> Snoops: Wouldn't that be slowing you down?
[06:02] <Bot_Builder> snoops - ah
[06:03] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: AAH! woot! Text!
[06:03] <Bot_Builder> yeah, i think it would :P
[06:03] <snoops> Ares the result slowed you down, but it wasn't designed to slow you down
[06:03] <Ares> Snoops: Now you are just messing with me.
[06:03] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: Goodie. Now open a browser and head to  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:03] <snoops> it was designed around the mechanical issues of the typewriter
[06:03] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: kk sec
[06:03] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: and copy the text from the gedit window and into pastebin then hand us the url
[06:04] <Ares> Snoops: Ok. You win, I don't want a flame battle raging so soon.
[06:04] <snoops> when dvorak came out it was known to be far better, but the cost was close to a month's salary back then
[06:04] <jme> johanbr, I don't believe lspci displays pcmcia devices
[06:04] <foofoooo> can  someone help me with dual booting  ubuntu?
[06:04] <Ares> Foo: Yes, if you ask a questian.
[06:04] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17140
[06:04] <s34n> Will 6.06 live CD boot with 128M RAM?
[06:04] <jme> s34n, I'd recommend the alternate install CD
[06:04] <johanbr> jme: Oh, it's pcmcia... maybe "dmesg |tail" just after you plug in the card.
[06:05] <Ares> S34n: Probably. Though I suggest getting a different window manager.
[06:05] <] GoldenDragon> how do i find the device name of my keyboard(i dunno what its called.. should look like... " /dev/input/js0 "
[06:05] <ic56> ] GoldenDragon: are you sure you don't want /dev/tty ?
[06:05] <s34n> I've tried a laptop and a PC, both with 128M, and both boot eternally (as in I quit after multiple hours)
[06:06] <] GoldenDragon> hmm, i'll try, what is tty supposed to be?
[06:06] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: on the command line (you might need to open a new terminal or new tab): ls /mnt/boot/vmlinux-2.6.15-23*
[06:06] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: does that give you anything?
[06:06] <ic56> ] GoldenDragon: what are you trying to accomplish?
[06:06] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: sec.. lemme give that a shot
[06:06] <foofoooo> can  i connect to  my existing subversion respository which is   currently on a  windows   box &  shared over a local network?
[06:07] <] GoldenDragon> umm, i'm trying to configure the OmniJoy plugin for pcsx but when setting the keys it says "error opening device dev/input/js0 please double check yourself!"
[06:07] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: no such file or dir..
[06:07] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: oh, really?
[06:07] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: ja
[06:07] <abstractism> wrong
[06:07] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: ls /mnt/boot   <= does that show anything that looks like vmlinuz at all?
[06:07] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: sec
[06:08] <abstractism> Fatcha2: the correct answer was ya rly
[06:08] <abstractism> hehe ;)
[06:08] <BlueEagle> abstractism: o'rly?
[06:08] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386
[06:08] <abstractism> ya rly!
[06:08] <ic56> ] GoldenDragon: hang on, checking something
[06:08] <Fatcha2> rofl i hear my hd on my lappy chruning away
[06:08] <] GoldenDragon> k
[06:08] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: ahh, my typo. :)
[06:08] <jme> johanbr, that worked
[06:09] <Fatcha2> i'm installing a very light kde distro
[06:09] <jme> at least, it got the chipset, which should be enough...
[06:09] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: Well then that's not the issue there.
[06:09] <Fatcha2> rofl
[06:09] <ToHellWithGA> how can i use alias to make a long command shorter?
[06:09] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: now wait.. what are you refering to?
[06:09] <jme> !bash
[06:09] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:09] <ToHellWithGA> thanks jme
[06:09] <BlueEagle> tohellwithga: alias shortcommad="longcommadn --with-options"
[06:09] <jme> well, that's not quite it
[06:09] <ToHellWithGA> thanks BlueEagle as well
[06:10] <johanbr> jme: Ok, cool. Now you just have to find the proper driver. :)
[06:10] <jme> ToHellWithGA, you'll want to put the alias in your ~/.bashrc file
[06:10] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: I am refering to the fact hhat it's 6:14 am and I'm typing "vmlinux" instead of "vmlinuz" :)
[06:10] <jme> johanbr, it's an atmel-based card
[06:10] <jme> fortunately it has an OSS driver, but the card itself is garbage!
[06:10] <mouse> Is there any way to fastswitch tabs, like ctrl+tab in windows?
[06:10] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: aah lol, ho-kay.. so can we continue? Please continue helping the noob
[06:10] <jme> I want to try to update the firmware...
[06:10] <abstractism> BlueEagle: are you in europe or asia?
[06:11] <Fatcha2> mouse.. alt-tab?
[06:11] <] GoldenDragon> mouse alt+tab works,
[06:11] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: I am attempting to think here. :)
[06:11] <ToHellWithGA> thanks jme
[06:11] <BlueEagle> abstractism: Norway. GMT+1
[06:11] <mouse> Those both change open windows, not open tabs
[06:11] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: yea.. thats kinda hard lol
[06:11] <abstractism> BlueEagle: neat :)
[06:11] <BlueEagle> abstractism: That's a question of definition. :)
[06:11] <Fatcha2> i think this is the most positive irc i've ever been in
[06:11] <] GoldenDragon> ctrl tab is working to change tabs here(atleast in GAIM)
[06:11] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: ok, close your browser and your gedit window.
[06:11] <Ares> Hmm, anyone know of any hardening Ubuntu guides?
[06:12] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: rgr
[06:12] <] GoldenDragon> its also working in firefox
[06:12] <abstractism> texas, USA; GMT-6
[06:12] <johanbr> jme: I don't know anything about atmel specifically, but firmware is usually extracted from the windows drivers in one way or another.
[06:12] <mouse> ] GoldenDragon, , Sadly not in xchat or the majority of tabbed things in icewm
[06:12] <ToHellWithGA> jme: i don't have a ~/.bashrc file
[06:12] <Ares> No point in running Linux if you don't get paranoid with security after all =)
[06:12] <s34n> what are the recommended specs for dapper?
[06:12] <ToHellWithGA> should i just make one with vi with my alias in it?
[06:12] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: done, back at the console
[06:12] <jme> ToHellWithGA, you presumably due, but it's hidden
[06:12] <mouse> alt+1 etc seem to work for xchat, I will try it in icepref real quick
[06:12] <jme> try 'ls -A' in your home directory
[06:12] <ToHellWithGA> vi ~/.bashrc gave me an empty file
[06:12] <Ares> s34n: Your only problem is your ram I think, 128 is a little low for Gnome, maybe a lighter Window Manager?
[06:12] <navid> Sorry guys, I know this is the Ubuntu IRC but I got a problem with Kubuntu.
[06:12] <navid> I installed ubuntu but then changed my mind and installed the kubuntu-desktop and uninstalled ubuntu thoroughly. Now I can't have kdm as my display manager and every time I boot the computer it reaches runlevel 4 and then I have to type " startx ". Any way to set KDM as my display manager?
[06:13] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: on the commandprompt: sudo mount --bind /proc/ /mnt/proc && sudo chroot /mnt/
[06:13] <jme> johanbr, it's a native driver: http://atmelwlandriver.sourceforge.net/ -- but it doesn't support the full wireless extensions
[06:13] <ic56> ] GoldenDragon: /dev/tty is for higher level work.  Sounds like you really do need that device.  My Debian system indeed has a /dev/input/js0 . My Ubuntu system (5.10) doesn't, though that directory in Ubuntu does contain the other devices like event0, mouse0, etc.  I see a /dev/input/ts0 in my ubuntu system.  No idea what it does, but it doesn't exist on my Debian system.  See if you have something like that.  It might be 
[06:13] <mouse> Darn, alt+2 didnt work in icepref or iceconf
[06:13] <j1p> is there a way with wget to just download all files of a certain file extension in a directory?
[06:13] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: that should (in theory) put you with a shell prompt in the installed environment.
[06:13] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: oooh... root
[06:13] <s34n> Ares: I'm downloading the alternate iso now
[06:13] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: yuuummy
[06:13] <johanbr> jme: But upgrading the firmware won't help you with the wireless extensions. Or am I missing something?
[06:13] <jme> ToHellWithGA, you're not running a weird custom install, or running as root...?
[06:13] <] GoldenDragon> hmm... i'll look
[06:13] <ToHellWithGA> i am not
[06:13] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: now: grub
[06:13] <jme> well, the card might suck less!
[06:14] <Ares> s34n: Think you need to get the alternate Ubuntu cd with that other manager.
[06:14] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: that should give you the grub cli.
[06:14] <ToHellWithGA> i see /etc/bash.bashrc when doing a search
[06:14] <ToHellWithGA> is that the right file?
[06:14] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: yep
[06:14] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: now I need to loop up the commands for you. :)
[06:14] <johanbr> jme: That's possible, but extensions support lies in the driver, not in the firmware.
[06:14] <jme> ToHellWithGA,  try 'find / -name .bashrc'
[06:14] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: that went right above my head.. do what now?
[06:14] <Ares> S34n: I think Xubuntu would be the one.
[06:14] <jme> it woud be darn weird, because Ubuntu defaults with a custom bash
[06:15] <axisys> how do I open a .doc file that is written in bengali ?
[06:15] <anarchtic> someone give me the info about lamp
[06:15] <Ares> S34n: http://www.xubuntu.org/
[06:15] <Ares> !info lamp
[06:15] <ubotu> Package lamp does not exist in dapper
[06:15] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: root (hd0,0)
[06:15] <Ares> Darn.
[06:15] <anarchtic> k
[06:15] <ToHellWithGA> jme: i'm getting "/etc/skel/.bashrc" and "/root/.bashrc"
[06:15] <] GoldenDragon> ehh, its late i'll work on it tommorow
[06:15] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: setup (hd0)
[06:15] <anarchtic> !info lamp
[06:15] <ubotu> Package lamp does not exist in dapper
[06:15] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: wait
[06:15] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: errors?
[06:15] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: selected disk does not exist
[06:15] <ToHellWithGA> !lamp
[06:15] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:15] <jme> well, at any rate, you can make your own ~/.bashrc to customize Bash
[06:15] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: Oh, really?
[06:15] <anarchtic> thx
[06:15] <Ares> ToHellWithGA: Nice.
[06:15] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: hd1 perhaps?
[06:16] <ToHellWithGA> yall are so crazy about knowing when to use and not use !info
[06:16] <ic56> ] GoldenDragon: ok. goodnight!
[06:16] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: try this instead then: find /boot/grub/stage1
[06:16] <ToHellWithGA> thanks jme
[06:16] <axisys> the fonts are all garbage.. i need to be able to convert them in bengali font in openoffic before i can read it
[06:16] <boitano> Firefox is extremely unstable on my dapper box, are there any known issues? I have used automatix in the past
[06:16] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: from grub gli or from console
[06:16] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: from grub
[06:16] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: righto, sec
[06:16] <Amaranth> ToHellWithGA: !info is for looking up packages
[06:16] <Amaranth> !info alacarte
[06:16] <ubotu> alacarte: easy menu editing. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.8-0ubuntu12 (dapper), package size 57 kB, installed size 472 kB
[06:16] <Ares> boitano: Have you tried #Firefox on irc.mozilla.org [or something, I can't remember] 
[06:16] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: error, file is not found
[06:17] <BlueEagle> oh really?
[06:17] <Fatcha2> yes really
[06:17] <ToHellWithGA> listen to Amaranth to figure out how to use ubotu :D
[06:17] <NickGarvey> !info linux-sources
[06:17] <ubotu> Package linux-sources does not exist in dapper
[06:17] <IdleOne> !tell boitano about automatix
[06:17] <ToHellWithGA> !info quodlibet
[06:17] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: quit
[06:17] <ubotu> quodlibet: audio library manager and player for GTK+. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.18-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 26 kB, installed size 128 kB
[06:18] <Amaranth> !info linux-source-2.6.15
[06:18] <ubotu> linux-source-2.6.15: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with Ubuntu patches. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.6.15-25.43 (dapper), package size 43417 kB, installed size 43556 kB
[06:18] <Amaranth> whee
[06:18] <ToHellWithGA> kewl
[06:18] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: done
[06:18] <jme> !abuse
[06:18] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:18] <jme> wait, nm
[06:18] <imarung> hi all.. i installed wxPython from source.. now i am able to import wx from inside the wxPython directory but when I import from elsewhere it reports error saying missing.. any ideas
[06:18] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: ls /boot
[06:18] <Amaranth> jme: :P
[06:18] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: ls /boot/grub/
[06:18] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: do you see a file named stage1 anywhere?
[06:18] <Amaranth> jme: I'll stop. :)
[06:18] <NickGarvey> imarung: add it to your path file
[06:18] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: yep
[06:18] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: in /boot or in /boot grub?
[06:18] <Amaranth> kinda slow in here though
[06:19] <BlueEagle> /boot/grub*
[06:19] <imarung> NickGarvey: did that..
[06:19] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: grub
[06:19] <NickGarvey> imarung: no idea then :)
[06:19] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: oh really?
[06:19] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: no, not really
[06:19] <BlueEagle> no?
[06:19] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: ROFL, dude i'm kidding, its int /boot/grub
[06:19] <BlueEagle> :)
[06:20] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: pwd
[06:20] <abstractism> BlueEagle: ya rly! ;)
[06:20] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: term returns /
[06:20] <BlueEagle> abstractism: @@:)  <= the roflm smiley
[06:20] <abstractism> and/or no wai!
[06:20] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: oh? I see.
[06:20] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: do i need to cd to grub?
[06:20] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: whoami
[06:21] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: root
[06:21] <NickGarvey> BlueEagle: you are BlueEagle
[06:21] <BlueEagle> nickgarvey: haha
[06:21] <Fatcha2> rofl
[06:21] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: weird.
[06:21] <abstractism>  hehe
[06:21] <imarung> how do i remove a software that i installed from source
[06:21] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: grub
[06:21] <jme> Whee, found the firmware I need! http://packages.debian.org/stable/net/atmel-firmware
[06:21] <BlueEagle> imarung: make uninstall or make clean usually
[06:21] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: find /boot/grub/stage1
[06:21] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: i love you just throwing term commands at me
[06:22] <abstractism> oh, another internet romance blossoms
[06:22] <SurfnKid> anyone recommend a good usb adapter chip
[06:22] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: error 15: file not found
[06:22] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: I am not throwing them. Term commands are fragile so I am gently handing them over. :p
[06:22] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: lol should be 404
[06:22] <SurfnKid> easy to connect to without going thru kernel compilation etc
[06:22] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: btw, good one
[06:22] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: ok, this I do not understand. :(
[06:23] <SurfnKid> usb wifi adapter that is..
[06:23] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: well i'm confused too, so you're not the only one
[06:23] <abstractism> frah-je-lay
[06:23] <Fatcha2> fra-gee-lee
[06:23] <abstractism> sounds french
[06:23] <Fatcha2> must be italian
[06:23] <Spec> Is it possible to make mount check/load a module before it mounts a specific partition?
[06:23] <abstractism> oh yeah, italian, lol
[06:24] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: when I run find /boot/grub/stage1 I get back (hd0,9) which is my /boot partition. :(
[06:24] <Solilo> Does anyone in here know if the MPD package on the universe repository was compiled w/o support for MP4/M4A/AAC decoders?
[06:24] <abstractism> Fatcha2: owned r i
[06:24] <Fatcha2> lol abs
[06:24] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: want a screenie?
[06:24] <abstractism> I like that movie but couldn't really remember the quote
[06:24] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: No, no. I believe you, but I do not undestand why you are getting that error.
[06:25] <abstractism> which is sad cause I'm usually rather good at quotes
[06:25] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: Which filesystem have you got on /dev/hda1?
[06:25] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: ext3
[06:25] <Fatcha2> i think
[06:25] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: fdisk -l /dev/hda
[06:25] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: from grub?
[06:25] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: no, my mistake
[06:25] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: quit
[06:26] <s34n> Ares: xubuntu requires 128M to install (which is ok for me this time, but is still a lot for a "light" edition)
[06:26] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: fdisk -l /dev/hda
[06:26] <abstractism> from the normal terminal, I think
[06:26] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: what is listed under "system" for hda1?
[06:26] <BlueEagle> is it hpfs/ntfs?
[06:26] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: lol nothing was returned
[06:26] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: logout
[06:26] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[06:27] <Ares> s34n. Wait, you can't afford 128mb of memory?
[06:27] <Fatcha2> System for hda1 is linux, system for hda2 is sawp/solaris
[06:27] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: damn, then that's not the error either :(
[06:27] <Ares> s34n: As in, harddrive memory? Or was that just ram?
[06:27] <Linuturk> ok, got a wierd problem. partitioned a harddrive with the window install disk (120 gb disk  80-ntfs 40-unpartitioned) windows install goes fine, with all updates and service packs processed.
[06:28] <s34n> Ares: RAM
[06:28] <Linuturk> installed Ubuntu 6.06 onto the unallocated space, with an automatic partitioning scheme
[06:28] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: I feel really special, having a really chalenging problem and all..
[06:28] <cyphase> is Ares = Ryan?
[06:28] <Ares> s34n: If you want something small, why don't you forget fancy displays and fire up a full screen terminal =)
[06:28] <Ares> Um, no?
[06:28] <cyphase> ah
[06:28] <cyphase> nevermind
[06:28] <Ares> I just use Ares as a term on Warcraft, I'm sorry.
[06:28] <cyphase> :)
[06:28] <sethk> BlueEagle, getting your boot partition displayed is not a problem there
[06:28] <cyphase> np
[06:28] <Ares> Though you can call me Ryan if it makes you feel better.
[06:28] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: You should be feelign really stupid for having such a ridiculous probem. :p hehe
[06:28] <cyphase> lol
[06:28] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: is there any way for me to do a remote deskop?
[06:28] <Ares> =)
[06:28] <Linuturk> when I tried to boot into windows again, it would show it's loading page, but reboot immediately
[06:29] <Ares> What version of Windows, XP?
[06:29] <sethk> Linuturk, usually that means the boot loader for windows is still there but the windows partition itself is damaged
[06:29] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: I am not sure.
[06:29] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: I haven't used the ubuntu livecd. I run xubunty myself.
[06:29] <rixth> If a process is marked as 'uninterruptible' how can I kill it?
[06:29] <Linuturk> Ares, XP Home
[06:30] <Linuturk> sethk, fresh install
[06:30] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: oh >.<
[06:30] <BlueEagle> rixth: sudo kill -9 PID
[06:30] <sethk> Linuturk, fresh install of what?
[06:30] <Linuturk> xp home
[06:30] <rixth> BlueEagle, didn't do it
[06:30] <Linuturk> no partition resizing
[06:30] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start
[06:30] <cfh_dev> What is the lettering order for ide drives?  primary, master is hda.  How do the others fall?
[06:30] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: does that work at all?
[06:31] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: cmd not found
[06:31] <Ares> Linuturk: You installed Ubuntu ontop of Windows? :O
[06:31] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: I thought so. :(
[06:31] <Linuturk> no Ares
[06:31] <ic56> cfh_dev: primary slave is hdb, sec master hdc, etc
[06:31] <Linuturk> in the unallocated space
[06:31] <cfh_dev> ic56: ah, so it is controller then device.  thanks!
[06:31] <johanbr> rixth: You can't.
[06:31] <BlueEagle> !vnc
[06:31] <s34n> rixth: kill -15 PID
[06:31] <ubotu> vnc is a (slow) way of doing remote desktop, x11vnc uses your current session. A faster remote desktop is !freenx
[06:31] <ic56> cfh_dev: correct. yw!
[06:31] <Ares> Linuturk: You have to partition the harddrive before installing Ubuntu.
[06:31] <rixth> johanbr, it's a rhythmbox process ffs.
[06:31] <cfh_dev> !freenx
[06:31] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[06:31] <Spec> x11vnc uses your current session eh?
[06:32] <Fatcha2> this hurts, my suse 10 dvd is beckoning me
[06:32] <Spec> is it possible to use your own session with freenx?
[06:32] <Linuturk> Ares, i did, via the windows installer
[06:32] <TTT_Travis> I am having a problem with ubuntu, I can't get a display resolution above 1024x768, my laptop's native res is way higher then that
[06:32] <johanbr> rixth: Let me guess... there's an nfs mount involved?
[06:32] <TTT_Travis> 4000xsomething or so
[06:32] <Linuturk> Ares, then i partitioned using the ubuntu installer
[06:32] <rixth> johanbr, nope
[06:32] <Ares> Linuturk: I'm very confused on what you are saying :O
[06:32] <Ares> Linuturk: You installed Windows, first, correct?
[06:32] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc
[06:32] <Linuturk> Ares, yes
[06:32] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: sudo chroot /mnt/
[06:32] <Ares> Linuturk: Did you use the whole hard drive?
[06:33] <IdleOne> !fixres
[06:33] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:33] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: sudo apt-get install sshd
[06:33] <johanbr> rixth: Strange, then I don't know. Anyway, you can't do much about uninterruptible processes. Except wait and hope for them to exit.
[06:33] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: acutally you don't need sudo on the last one.
[06:33] <Linuturk> Ares, no, i left 40 gigs unformatted
[06:33] <Spec> rixth: zombie processes won't go away
[06:33] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[06:33] <Spec> rixth: you have to kill the parent process that spawned it
[06:33] <rixth> Spec, top doesn't have it marked as a zombie
[06:33] <Linuturk> Ares, then i formatted using the Ubuntu installer, after i updated windows
[06:34] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: Then I'm all out of ideas. Sorry that I couldn't help you.
[06:34] <Ares> Linuturk: Does Ubuntu run?
[06:34] <deshantm> hi, does anyone know how to make ctrl+tab work in epiphany like it does in firefox? (i.e. to switch to the next tab)... currently ctrl+page up/down do that
[06:34] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: oooh you're kidding
[06:34] <Linuturk> Ares, yes, perfectly
[06:34] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: it's 6:40 am and I've been up since 9am yesterday.
[06:34] <Ares> LinuTurk: So, you have Windows start loading through... Grub via Chain loading, right?
[06:34] <Ares> LinuTurk: Then, it just hangs.
[06:34] <Linuturk> Ares, windows is caught in a reboot loop. The loading screen pops up, but it quickly restarts
[06:34] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: is there a possibility that it could be my partition? should it try the autoinstall? I feel your pain also blueeagle.
[06:35] <Ares> LinuTurk: I had something like that happen, but God dammit, I forgot that too.
[06:35] <cfh_dev> Is it possible to get a device description for the various /dev/hd* ?
[06:35] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: It shouldn't be. The problem is that grub can't seem to find your root partition at all.
[06:35] <Linuturk> Ares, i tried the process twice. Once with auto partitioning, once manual
[06:35] <Fatcha2> Linuturk, can you do F8 and console, chkdsk
[06:35] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: and that is a problem I've never had nor seen.
[06:36] <sysdoc> TTT_Travis, lol 4000xsomething! Maybe 1440xsomething....
[06:36] <TTT_Travis> yeah
[06:36] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: well ty for your time..
[06:36] <TTT_Travis> thats what I mean't ;)
[06:36] <sysdoc> lol
[06:36] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: ty ty alot
[06:36] <TTT_Travis> I wish it was 4000xsomething
[06:36] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: You could check in your bios that the drive is set to LBA and not some other exotic system.
[06:36] <Linuturk> Fatcha2, didn't think of that
[06:36] <TTT_Travis> another question how do I get my wireless to work? this is a Lenovo Thinkpad T60
[06:36] <deshantm> !epiphany
[06:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about epiphany
[06:36] <TTT_Travis> don't know what card it is
[06:36] <Linuturk> Fatcha2, how would the ubuntu install tear up windows though?
[06:37] <element> is there a DAP for linux? (download accelerator plus)
[06:37] <Ares> LinuTurk: Did you put your grub info in the wrong place/
[06:37] <Fatcha2> linuturk, no idea.. as long as the windows partition is still there, you're prolly still ok windows wise
[06:37] <deshantm> !firefox
[06:37] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:37] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: you're very welcom
[06:37] <Linuturk> Ares, it handled that automatically, as far as I could tell
[06:37] <BlueEagle> now I am calling it the night. Have a good one everybody.
[06:37] <Linuturk> seeing as windows was on the first partition
[06:37] <Fatcha2> BlueEalge: night man
[06:38] <Paul2> Hey can anyone help me with a network problem related to the nVidia 410 chipset and ubuntu 6.06?
[06:38] <Fatcha2> guys, i'm out.. ima play with ubuntu.. try to fix my problem
[06:38] <Fatcha2> bbl
[06:38] <sysdoc> TTT_Travis, you have 2 questions there that require you knowing what the hardware is.
[06:38] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: oh and if all else fails make a smaller /boot partition as /dev/hda1
[06:38] <SurfnKid> I like Breezy
[06:38] <SurfnKid> the only thing I dont is the lack of APM support
[06:39] <SurfnKid> i need to do some forum checking
[06:39] <Ares> LinuTurk: Oh yeah, you're right, this isn't like other systems :/
[06:39] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: 8gb is what it is now.. its a 100 gb drive
[06:39] <SurfnKid> !APM
[06:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about APM
[06:39] <Ares> LinuTurk: If worse comes to worse, redo everything.
[06:39] <Linuturk> Ares, well, i've done that twice
[06:39] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: swap is a gig
[06:39] <Linuturk> :/
[06:39] <Ares> LinuTurk: Um, got a spare hard drive?
[06:39] <Fatcha2> yea ares, thats a great thing to tell someone
[06:40] <Linuturk> Ares, nope
[06:40] <Fatcha2> just like.. phuck it
[06:40] <Fatcha2> reinstall rofl
[06:40] <Ares> Fetcha2: I came from windows =)
[06:40] <Linuturk> that is the windows philosphy
[06:40] <Linuturk> ;p
[06:40] <Fatcha2> nice (>.<)
[06:40] <Ares> Fetcha2: We're lazy, and don't care =P
[06:40] <Paul2> My ethernet card stops working after rebooting to windows then back to ubuntu. Does any one know how to fix this it is my only yay to connect to the internet.
[06:40] <hey560> hello
[06:40] <Fatcha2> well i'm a windows user too
[06:40] <[soop] > paul2: stop rebooting into windows
[06:40] <Linuturk> retry, restart, reinstall
[06:40] <hey560> has anyone made an amarok 1.4.1 package yet?
[06:40] <[soop] > problem solved
[06:40] <Linuturk> the three r's of windows administration
[06:41] <Ares> LinuTurk: If all else fails, find someone who made a Wizard that solves the problem.
[06:41] <[soop] > paul2: why are you rebooting back into windows?
[06:41] <Paul2> I wish I could.
[06:41] <[soop] > why can't you?
[06:41] <Fatcha2> peace out -_-
[06:41] <sysdoc> Linuturk, please no,lol
[06:41] <renewip> hi, can I write on ntfs partition if I rebuild ubuntu kernel ???
[06:41] <[soop] > renewip: I don't think so
[06:41] <Ares> Renewip: I don't think NTFS is writable just yet.
[06:41] <[soop] > not at any level I'd trust
[06:41] <Linuturk> sysdoc, please no what?
[06:41] <donuts> Hello all! I have a problem installing dapper on a powerbook (related to bootstrap partition)
[06:41] <Ares> Renewip: fat32 is, but I really wouldn't try writing to anything with NTFS.
[06:42] <sysdoc> Don't recite the 3
[06:42] <Paul2> I have a few work related progs that won't run with WINE.
[06:42] <Ares> Paul2: What are they?
[06:42] <Linuturk> sysdoc ;p
[06:43] <Paul2> What are they what?
[06:43] <donuts> does anyone have much knowledge about installing dapper on ppc32?
[06:43] <Paul2> oh nvm
[06:43] <inono> Is there a package for RubyGems
[06:43] <Linuturk> lmao
[06:43] <[Ex0r] > Happy independence day!
[06:44] <Ares> Paul2: What are the programs you can't use or haven't found an alternative too?
[06:44] <Paul2> custom in company stuff
[06:44] <[soop] > Paul2: which programs?
[06:44] <Ares> Dammit, I screwed up my clock again.
[06:44] <[soop] > like what? vb apps for inventory or something similar?
[06:44] <Paul2> not to mention my wifes games.
[06:44] <[soop] > or is it not something that users could utilize a terminal server for
[06:44] <[soop] > paul2: which ones, I had the same issue
[06:45] <[soop] > now she's somewhat content
[06:45] <Paul2> yea
[06:45] <pete27> I'm a gentoo/fedora user who loves KDE.  I want to try ubuntu.  Should I try regular Ubuntu regardless of my preference for KDE, or is Kubuntu just as good as regular ubuntu?
[06:45] <donuts> hello, any mac users here? (having issues with bootstrap partition)
[06:45] <[soop] > pete: if you like kde stick with kde
[06:45] <farky> donuts: intel mac?
[06:45] <[soop] > i was a windowmaker fan and now I dont mind gnome
[06:45] <Ares> Pete27: Gentoo fan who is a fedora fan? Holy hell, I never would see the day.
[06:45] <jiSh> for kde dont use kubuntu imo
[06:45] <donuts> nop ppc
[06:45] <jiSh> something like mepis 6 better for kde
[06:45] <hey560> pete27: kubuntu will be as good as ubuntu but with KDE
[06:46] <donuts> 1 ghz powerbook aluminium g4
[06:46] <Paul2> I have read that forcedeth is the problem here but I have found no soultion.
[06:46] <farky> donuts: nvm cause there was an article on the forums I saw about the macbook pro
[06:46] <pete27> cool
[06:46] <donuts> farky: thanks
[06:46] <hey560> you can switch between them very easily too
[06:46] <noiesmo> pete27, only if you want to learn gnome other wise the kubuntu and ubuntu same base just desktop varies
[06:47] <farky> donuts: I "might
[06:47] <farky> donuts: I "might" be able to help
[06:47] <pete27> Everyone makes a big deal about ubuntu, so I figured maybe they did some nice stuff with gnome.
[06:47] <Ares> Its very streamlined and fast.
[06:47] <Ares> Thats about it.
[06:47] <pete27> And I thought that Kubuntu might have been an afterthought
[06:47] <Ares> Oh, and you can download a compiz/xgl binary for Ubuntu [Gnome] 
[06:48] <pete27> hence I should give ubuntu a shot instead of kubuntu, but if that's not the case, I'll go with kubuntu
[06:48] <donuts> farky: would it be an idea to pv?
[06:48] <farky> donuts: join the channel #donuts
[06:48] <Ares> Want to try out compiz, I hear its rad.
[06:48] <Ares> [Directed to pete27] 
[06:48] <pete27> Ares: I thought you could use xgl with KDE just fine?
[06:48] <noiesmo> i run XGL?Compiz on kubuntu Ares
[06:48] <donuts> farky: I'm not on my box now, so I'll jsut have a few questions, no spoonfeeding needed
[06:48] <pete27> I checked our Koraraa and it was awesome
[06:48] <Ares> I alway sthought Compiz was backing Gnome nativly.
[06:48] <farky> donuts: so what are you trying to do? Again I'm no expert
[06:49] <pete27> nah, the gentoo HOWTO says xgl and compiz work fine with KDE
[06:49] <Ares> Darn.
[06:49] <Ares> =)
[06:49] <pete27> I would try Xgl with gentoo but I'de have to reemerge X and gnome and that takes about a day
[06:49] <Ares> Thought we could end the KDE vs Gnome thing.
[06:49] <noiesmo> pete27, no problems here  running kde xgl/compiz
[06:49] <amonkey> what package do i need to get if what i'm trying to compile needs kdialog?
[06:49] <pete27> noiesmo: can you run opengl apps inside Xgl
[06:50] <varsendaggr> hey would someone plese tell me how to play quake 2   i have it installed but i need soemthign else    the .quake files
[06:50] <noiesmo> pete27, can play quake3
[06:50] <pete27> sweet
[06:50] <Risky_jatt> hey
[06:50] <varsendaggr> i love xgl
[06:50] <varsendaggr> i don't htink i can go back
[06:50] <noiesmo> pete27, but i have setup so can switch between xgl compiz and normal as some sdl apps dont like xgl compiz
[06:50] <Risky_jatt> what is the latest kernel used for ubuntu dapper 6
[06:50] <pete27> it is pretty damned cool
[06:51] <pete27> noiesmo: I imagine I would do the same
[06:51] <varsendaggr> how do you get quake 3 for linux?
[06:51] <pete27> buy it at a store
[06:51] <Risky_jatt> is ubuntu dapper 6.06 can use kernel 2.6.17 ?
[06:51] <noiesmo> pete27, here's link to my screenshoots its a little slow at moment http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/mediagallery/album.php?aid=1&page=1
[06:52] <skon> hello
[06:52] <Ares> Can you just apt-get Compiz and xgl?
[06:52] <noiesmo> pete27, howto on site as well for kubuntu dapper
[06:52] <noiesmo> Ares, yes
[06:52] <pete27> noiesmo: cool. I have to d/l the iso first though and install
[06:52] <[soop] > man I hate to say it but ubuntu has made me lazy
[06:52] <noiesmo> Ares, would use quinnstorm packages need to add repos
[06:52] <Risky_jatt> how to update kernel in ubuntu ?
[06:52] <[soop] > I just want to apt-get everything
[06:53] <pete27> Have you tried kororaa?
[06:53] <[soop] > apt-get complete system with everything i could possibly ever think of compiling
[06:53] <Ares> Noiesmo: Mind guiding me through everything?
[06:53] <noiesmo> apt-get roks
[06:53] <[soop] > make world
[06:53] <Paul2> so no one knows how to fix the "windows is skrewing up my nForce 410 ethernet card" problem other than "don't run windows." eh?
[06:53] <noiesmo> Ares, here's link to howto http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20060602173658632
[06:54] <Risky_jatt> how to update kernel ?
[06:54] <noiesmo> Ares, got a few this todo at mo just thought throw in my 2cents worth haha
[06:55] <cyphase> which state are you in io-error?
[06:55] <noiesmo> Ares, also join channel ubuntu-xgl for specific help too
[06:55] <noiesmo> :)
[06:55] <cyphase> oh, he's gone
[06:55] <cyphase> io_error
[06:55] <cyphase> *
[06:55] <stpere> Paul2, try to ifconfig eth0 down
[06:55] <Ares> Paul2: Hold the cards makers and everyone involved at gun point until they fix it.
[06:55] <stpere> Paul2, then get it back up
[06:55] <stpere> Paul2, if it doesn't work, a cold boot should work
[06:56] <skon> have a server with eth0 assigned dhcp ( wan ) and eth1 assigned static ( lan ). My question is do I set a gateway in the eth1 config and where might I point it?
[06:56] <stpere> Paul2, rather than rebooting, turn off your computer then turn it back on
[06:56] <Paul2> Cold boot? power down unplug wait 15 sec replug powerup?
[06:57] <an> hey guys ,
[06:57] <an> hwo can i use icq in gaim?
[06:57] <CaptainMorgan> I can't get Kaffeine to display an mpg... I got Libxine-extracodecs, wavpack and w32codecs installed.... Im only getting sound with no display - any Ideas?
[06:57] <stpere> Paul2, no need to wait 15 sec.. hold the power switch for 4 seconds
[06:57] <Paul2> ok
[06:59] <Ares> Nano's shortcuts are retarded.
[06:59] <CaptainMorgan> no, yours are
[06:59] <[soop] > anyone knwo if 7.1 dolby sound actually works?
[06:59] <[soop] > I've never actually tried it in linux
[06:59] <[soop] > I've never had 7.1 speakers <laffs>
[06:59] <Ares> Captain: You're probably right, but I'm going to be a troll and say that V and Y are to far apart.
[06:59] <CaptainMorgan> :)
[07:00] <Ares> Anyone know of any Linux ports that will scan my face and destroy and blemishes?
[07:00] <Paul2> I hate windows but I gotta use it. Anyway I hope that works.
[07:01] <Ares> any*
[07:01] <BSoDirl> Ares: Clearasil Mplayer.
[07:01] <BSoDirl> :>
[07:01] <Ares> LOL.
[07:01] <an> hello?
[07:01] <BSoDirl> oh wait..
[07:01] <farky> Ares: sorry no I don't
[07:01] <soop> Ares: tetracyclene
[07:01] <soop> .sh
[07:01] <an> how can i add rooms in icq?
[07:01] <varsendaggr> Paul2, no you don't us vmplayer
[07:01] <soop> rooms? ICQ has rooms?
[07:01] <BSoDirl> Clearasil xzgv w/ antialias.
[07:01] <soop> wtf?!
[07:01] <varsendaggr> an /j #room
[07:01] <BSoDirl> :>
[07:01] <Ares> farky: Isn't their some shortcut in Vim or Emacs?
[07:01] <soop> when did icq get rooms
[07:01] <an> soop
[07:02] <soop> an: yes?
[07:02] <an> i use icq in gaim
[07:02] <BSoDirl> ROOMS?!
[07:02] <soop> an: wanna do me a favour
[07:02] <soop> query the acct # 421054
[07:02] <jme> well darn, getting a new version of the atmel firmware didn't make my wireless work
[07:02] <BSoDirl> I do too an, I didn't see any rooms.
[07:02] <Ares> Like, shift + ctrl + alt + C+L+E+A+R+F+A+C+E should work, right?
[07:02] <BSoDirl> freeeaky
[07:02] <soop> tell me what email address is associated with it, I can't remember my icq password
[07:02] <Paul2> need the pay for version to use my windows install dont i?
[07:02] <an> soop,but i have no buddy in my icq ,so when i login icq in gaim ,it asked me fill in the room like in irc
[07:02] <soop> Paul2: huh?
[07:03] <eugman> Hey, is there a comprehensive downloadable source of help information? Like the wiki plus some other stuff?
[07:03] <soop> oh ... i see
[07:03] <Paul2> I don't have a premade vm for windows.
[07:03] <soop> i couldn't tell you dude, i use jabber and msn *shudder*
[07:03] <Ares> Eugman: Man pages?
[07:03] <soop> Paul2: vm = virtual machine?
[07:03] <an> soop. ok
[07:03] <Tom7e> what is the command to load the trashcan from prompt?
[07:03] <BSoDirl> cd ~/.Trash
[07:03] <soop> you're trying to use windows in ubuntu? not via wine but via vmware or something?
[07:04] <an> bsodirl,can u help me?
[07:04] <eugman> Ares, I mean more howto-ish stuff like howto fix your resolution
[07:04] <Paul2> yep
[07:04] <BSoDirl> icq?
[07:04] <farky> Ares: there should be one in Emacs, but it might have been an older revision I saw it in
[07:04] <soop> eugman: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:04] <jme> eugman, no
[07:04] <BSoDirl> I';m fixing to go frag some noobs..
[07:04] <cyphase> or if you want it in nautilus, nautilus ~/.Trash
[07:04] <BSoDirl> it'll cut into my bandwidth.
[07:04] <eugman> Thanks jme.
[07:04] <BSoDirl> :<
[07:04] <an> soop ,neither ,i just install windows and ubuntu ,2 system
[07:04] <soop> aaaah
[07:04] <Paul2> var-some dude said use vmplayer
[07:04] <jme> welcome to the self-documenting world of Unix!
[07:04] <whitepyro> Anyone know how to get postfix to bloody well work? :D...
[07:05] <BSoDirl> documentation ftw
[07:05] <an> bsodirl,yes ,icq , in gaim
[07:05] <soop> whitepyro: www.qmailrocks.org ;)
[07:05] <soop> im not a fan of postfix
[07:05] <BSoDirl> eww
[07:05] <Tom7e> thanks
[07:05] <whitepyro> i just wanna use mail() in php LOL.. i will check that :|
[07:05] <BSoDirl> i dont even remember my UIN
[07:05] <Tom7e> i had trash it wouldn't let me delete
[07:05] <whitepyro> Well i can't get sendmail nor post fix so..
[07:05] <eugman> Soop, Let's say I break my xorg config and i don't have internet acess then what would I do.
[07:05] <soop> whitepyro: it's a good tutorial
[07:05] <Ares> How do I make this name "belong" to me?
[07:05] <whitepyro> ugh wasted all day
[07:05] <BSoDirl> in trash directory.. sudo rm -r *
[07:05] <CaptainMorgan> I can't get Kaffeine to display an mpg... I got Libxine-extracodecs, wavpack and w32codecs installed.... Im only getting sound with no display - any Ideas? - Ive tried VLC and Mplayer and all three have sound but now display....
[07:06] <CaptainMorgan> no
[07:06] <Ares> Eugman: I thought you can use LINKS through Term or whatever.
[07:06] <an> ?
[07:06] <soop> eugman: well back it up before you modify it " cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.working"
[07:06] <BSoDirl> CaptainMorgan, tried gxine yet?
[07:06] <BSoDirl> its the bomb
[07:06] <Paul2> Later
[07:06] <an> bsodirl,yes ,icq , in gaim
[07:06] <BSoDirl> an, I just said I forgot my UIN #
[07:06] <eugman> Soop, my point is this: If I have a computer not connected to the internet and something goes wrong I have limited redress.
[07:07] <an> o
[07:07] <BSoDirl> p33ce
[07:07] <soop> eugman: you're in x right now right?
[07:07] <whitepyro> soop: you got gmail to work on your local machine yes?
[07:07] <Tom7e> i have a problem.  I like to set both panels at the bottom of the screen, with the applications at the very bottom, but whenever i restart my PC, they are swapped with the workspaces panel at the very bottom..
[07:07] <Ares> Eugman: You know that Linux relies on Broadband connections, right?
[07:07] <CaptainMorgan> gxine doesn't work either
[07:07] <eugman> I was speaking hypothetically. Everything is fine. However I may be setting up a friend of mine with ubuntu
[07:07] <CaptainMorgan> wwhat is going on??
[07:08] <soop> i haven't thrown it in to ubuntu yet but i've had many a slackware install of it work perfectly
[07:08] <eugman> Ares, in what way?
[07:08] <RShadow> what is the kernel image for athlon proc? K7 or 686?
[07:08] <whitepyro> soop; Ic.. Hopefully this works.. I've spent all day trying to configure these P.O.S. LOL
[07:08] <soop> hehehehe no worries
[07:08] <Ares> Eugman: Collaborative projects, sources distribution, etc.
[07:08] <Ares> Eugman: Help would be one =P
[07:09] <Ares> Eugman: I'm 14, we were the first on the block to have a Cable modem, shutup, I'm spoiled =)
[07:09] <jme> Anyone have experience with an atmel-based wireless card?
[07:10] <eugman> Ares, I have broadband as well. However i'd like a way for my friend to be self sufficient if something goes awry.
[07:10] <Ares> Eugman: Give him a punching bag.
[07:10] <siriusnova> can anyone help me with recompiling wpa supplicant to support madwifi-old
[07:10] <siriusnova> *sigh*
[07:10] <PORDO> is the world cup over yet?
[07:10] <grigora> hi, I am trying to follow some web site on how to upgrade to dapper drake and once I run the update-manager, I don't see an Upgrade button, anyone knows why? thanks
[07:11] <Ares> Eugman: But really, you could just download wiki's of it. Or get the Ubuntu manual thats coming out shortly
[07:11] <Ares> Eugman: It should be coming later this month.
[07:11] <whitepyro> Soop: If this works I might just be inclined to kiss ya.. *JOKES*. Crosses fingers..
[07:11] <RShadow> I'm getting different opinions.. is an Athlon processor listed as a 686 or K7 in Ubuntu?
[07:11] <eugman> Are you referring to the o'reilly book or the free one from lulu?
[07:12] <Ares> Eugman: I'm referring the the add they sent me with my shipit cd.
[07:12] <Ares> ad*
[07:12] <soop> whitepyro: it should, just follow the steps, make sure your dns is working though
[07:12] <eugman> K.
[07:12] <skavenge> RShadow: pretty sure its k7
[07:12] <grigora> anyone knows how to upgrade from breezy to drake? either gui or apt. thanks
[07:12] <whitepyro> i dunno if it is or not
[07:12] <whitepyro> :D
[07:12] <Ares> Eugman: It should be coming out LATE July. So, don't be going, where is it or anything.
[07:12] <RShadow> skavenge, thanks
[07:12] <whitepyro> how do i check :D
[07:13] <jme> this dumb wireless card won't get out of 802.11-DS mode, and it appears to be a firmware problem :(
[07:13] <eugman> Grigora, update manager should have a big upgrade button on it.
[07:13] <grigora> eugman: for some reason it does not
[07:13] <eugman> try updatemanager -d
[07:13] <eugman> whoops
[07:13] <eugman> try update-manager -d
[07:13] <grigora> eugman: i tried both
[07:14] <eugman> y rather odd.
[07:14] <grigora> eugman: with and without -d
[07:14] <eugman> y it update-manager updated fully?
[07:14] <eugman>  ignore the y's
[07:14] <eugman> I play too much tfc.
[07:14] <whitepyro> ppl still play TFC?
[07:14] <whitepyro> :D
[07:14] <Ares> TFC?
[07:14] <eugman> A half-life mod
[07:14] <Ares> Ahhh.
[07:15] <grigora> eugman: ignore the y-s? what does that mean?
[07:15] <siriusnova> what's a good wifi pc-card that works well with ubuntu
[07:15] <eugman> I prepend my stantments with y's because it's a reflex resulting from playing a game which requires such.
[07:15] <whitepyro> AIM BOT!
[07:16] <grigora> eugman: all I have on update-manager is a Reload button and a sign that reads: Your system is up-to-date
[07:16] <grigora> eugman: how can i do it via apt?
[07:16] <eugman> Hmmm very unusual. One moment.
[07:16] <Ares> How to you pause soemthing in Totem?
[07:17] <grigora> eugman: ok
[07:17] <siriusnova> can anyone help me at all? im about to format ubuntu :(
[07:17] <johanbr> siriusnova: I've heard Ralink cards work well. Prism cards are also good, but kind of hard to get hold of. Intel's cards are also well supported.
[07:17] <RShadow> anybody else have issues with xchat not working with XGL?
[07:17] <Ares> Ugh, I have to go my bladder and bed are killing me.
[07:17] <Ares> Night.
[07:17] <siriusnova> johnabr - do prism cards supprt wpa ?
[07:17] <siriusnova> johanbr ^^
[07:18] <lostar4545> how do i find out the type of  ram my PC uses with ubuntu
[07:18] <chariscomp> Hello, I am having trouble installing ubuntu using the alternate installation cd. I want to use software RAID. When I get to the section that is to help me setup RAID, my computer seems to freeze or at a minimum go very, very slowly. Any suggestions on why this might be?
[07:18] <johanbr> siriusnova: I'm not 100% sure, but I think the answer is "yes, if you configure it manually, but not with networkmanager".
[07:18] <eugman> Grigora, could you check if you have ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop installed for me?
[07:18] <chariscomp> I notice that the hard drive light stays lit continuously.
[07:18] <snoops> anyone know anything about binding mouse buttons to other mouse buttons?
[07:19] <grigora> eugman: i have ubuntu-desktop
[07:19] <siriusnova> johanbr - what works with network manager WPA wise
[07:19] <eugman> ok good then this should work. Follow these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades#head-0171d3953a2ea19e9b4228bcd5cde3ecfb67f7af
[07:20] <eugman> and one more thing
[07:20] <Tom7e> i have a problem.  I like to set both panels at the bottom of the screen, with the applications at the very bottom, but whenever i restart my PC, they are swapped with the workspaces panel at the very bottom..
[07:20] <eugman> IT IS VERY IMPORTANT that you follow the instructions EXACTLY or you could ruin your setup. Pay close mind to the warnings at the end.
[07:20] <johanbr> siriusnova: What I know to work: Intel cards, Broadcom 43xx, ndiswrapper. Probably more also...
[07:21] <whitepyro> god I quit
[07:21] <whitepyro> lol
[07:21] <chariscomp> hello, anyone have any suggestions on my problem?
[07:21] <whitepyro> even step 2 don't work
[07:21] <whitepyro> haha
[07:21] <eugman> Whitepyro, I rather doubt he cares unless you don't mean with computer stuff.
[07:22] <whitepyro> no i'm in referance to seting up gmail LOL
[07:23] <siriusnova> anyone here use aircrack on ubuntu?
[07:23] <FunnyHat-Away> siriusnova, you mean airsnort?
[07:23] <siriusnova> FunnyHat-Away - i mean aircrack-ng
[07:23] <siriusnova> i had to recompile madwifi drivers to support packet injection and now i cant use WPA :(
[07:23] <jesse_> hey
[07:23] <FunnyHat-Away> siriusnova, hmmm  no, sorry
[07:24] <jesse_> hey
[07:24] <eugman> jesse_, you have my attention?
[07:24] <jesse_> thats good
[07:24] <eugman> Do you have a question?
[07:25] <jesse_> yeah... why are we still using IRC
[07:25] <eugman> As opposed to?
[07:25] <jesse_> EVERYTHING else
[07:25] <eugman> Well shouting has alimited range.
[07:25] <jesse_> ya no AIM, AOL, YAHOO,
[07:25] <jesse_> all that other stuff
[07:25] <cheeseman557> if i want to make a partition that is read/writable by both windows and ubuntu, does it need to be fat32 and what should the mount point be?
[07:25] <eugman> Firstly we get free hosting with freenode.
[07:26] <eugman> And what do you mean aim,aol ? isn't that redundant?
[07:26] <jesse_> Do you actually have like intelligent conversations
[07:26] <eobanb> ...?
[07:27] <jesse_> why are you talking like that
[07:27] <eugman> I think the conversations usually resemble something intelligent. Of course this is the support channel so it's more about fixing problems.
[07:27] <siriusnova> i wish someone could help me fix my problems :(
[07:27] <cheeseman557> me too
[07:27] <eobanb> jesse_, do you have a legitimate question about ubuntu, because now is the time to ask
[07:27] <chariscomp> Me, three!
[07:27] <siriusnova> ive been here for 2 days lol
[07:27] <nate_> jesse_, lead the way, leave IRC and get on those
[07:27] <nate_> thanks
[07:27] <eugman> I talk like that because i find speaking ironically far too enjoyable.
[07:27] <eobanb> siriusnova, cheeseman557, chariscomp, what are your questions
[07:28] <jesse_> okay heres a question... is there anyway i can download a windows based program while running umbunto
[07:28] <cheeseman557> if i want to make a partition that is read/writable by both windows and ubuntu, does it need to be fat32 and what should the mount point be?
[07:28] <Lynoure> siriusnova: sorry, I have no idea about patched madwifi drivers...
[07:28] <eobanb> jesse_, you mean *run* a windows programme?
[07:28] <nate_> jesse_, yes, you can download whatever you want.
[07:28] <jesse_> yes run dowload its all the same shit
[07:28] <eugman> Jesse_, yes but windows may have a hard time accessing it.
[07:28] <jesse_> well how do i do it then
[07:28] <eobanb> jesse_, running and downloading are definitely not the same thing.
[07:28] <eugman> No it's not the same.
[07:28] <siriusnova> eobang - i had to use madwifi-old patched drivers to support packet injection, now the WPA menu is disabled in Network Manager, Im assuming i have to recompile WPA supplicant to support madwifi-old ?
[07:28] <eugman> Install wine to run it.
[07:28] <siriusnova> or not?
[07:28] <nate_> jesse_, they're far from the same
[07:28] <eobanb> !wine
[07:29] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:29] <whitepyro> !whine?
[07:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about whine?
[07:29] <whitepyro> :D
[07:29] <chariscomp> My question is this: I am trying to install Ubuntu on a machine and use the built-in software RAID to create a RAID 1 mirror. I am using the alternate install CD. When I get to the point of trying to setup the software RAID, the setup seems to freeze on me. As in, lots of disk activity, screen updates extremely slowly, if at all. Any suggestions?
[07:29] <eobanb> siriusnova, what wireless chipset
[07:29] <siriusnova> eobanbg atheros card
[07:29] <jesse_> look i want to DOWNLOAD a windows based program on my computer while running umbuntu.... how would i go about doing this you little smart ass
[07:30] <nate_> jesse_, thats a great way to get help
[07:30] <eobanb> jesse_, i would think you would go to the website, and click on the link to downloaded the .exe file, just like you would on windows.
[07:30] <eobanb> !attitude
[07:30] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:30] <cyphase> it's another kordo
[07:30] <eugman> And of course you want windows to be able to acess it correct?
[07:30] <nate_> !jerk
[07:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about jerk
[07:30] <siriusnova> eobanb - it's a SMC 2336W-AG so it uses the atheros chipset
[07:30] <chariscomp> Thanks for any help anyone can give me with this.
[07:30] <reemusk> hey team, i'm back
[07:30] <nate_> well, let me educate you, ubotu.  see jesse_ ?
[07:30] <reemusk> i still can't find flash-nonfree in synaptic
[07:30] <whitepyro> hey anyone ever set up gmail for ubuntu ?
[07:30] <cheeseman557> if i want to make a partition that is read/writable by both windows and ubuntu, does it need to be fat32 and what should the mount point be?
[07:30] <eobanb> siriusnova, i would think that the old drivers would not support WPA, and i guess since the new ones do, then you'll have to switch between them.
[07:30] <cyphase> everyone help chariscomp. he's being nice
[07:30] <cyphase> ;)
[07:31] <chariscomp> Thanks! :)
[07:31] <reemusk> i've refreshed synaptic, added the repositories several times
[07:31] <reemusk> nothing, team
[07:31] <eugman> Cheeseman557, ext2 drivers also exist for windows but may cause problems.
[07:31] <nate_> cheeseman557, that's a good idea, yes, having it fat32 helps.
[07:31] <siriusnova> eobanb - how do i recompile the new ones in ubuntu, if i use madwifi-ng straight from the madwifi website WPA doesnt work either
[07:31] <cheeseman557> what should the mount point be?
[07:32] <jesse_> ok so if i goto a porn sight and i want to download like a short clip but i want to run it with WINDOWNS media player
[07:32] <eobanb> siriusnova, are you sure the card itself can do WPA?
[07:32] <siriusnova> i was thinking maybe i just used the source from the ubuntu ones which appear to be different then madwifi-ng and madwifi-old but i dont know where to get that source from
[07:32] <jesse_> it opens up on like totemmovie or someshit
[07:32] <siriusnova> eobanbg - yes WPA works fine with stock modules in linux-restricted
[07:32] <eobanb> cheeseman557, yes, fat32 is good choice of filesystem
[07:32] <nate_> cheeseman557, there are Reiser drivers for windows now too, I hear.  But if you don't want to muck around, use fat32
[07:32] <siriusnova> linux-restricted-modules i mean
[07:32] <cheeseman557> but what should the moint point be
[07:32] <nate_> jesse_, language, thanks
[07:32] <nate_> !language
[07:32] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:32] <nate_> thanks
[07:32] <jesse_> just answer the question
[07:32] <jesse_> i dont need a preacher i need a helper
[07:33] <eobanb> !restricted
[07:33] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:33] <eugman> Jesse_, I'm pretty sure windows media player is a porpiety application not runnable in ubuntu but I can check
[07:33] <cheeseman557> swap, /, /home, /boot, /usr, or /var?
[07:33] <eugman> y you can however tansfer the files to windows and watch in windows.
[07:33] <grigora> eugman: the upgrade is working, thanks for your help!
[07:33] <eobanb> jesse_, you can play windows media files with other players, but you can't run windows media player.
[07:33] <alexicon> jesse_: you cant use windows media player in linux
[07:33] <eugman> I'm glad your computer isn't a brick, grigora.
[07:33] <jesse_> Well what should i use in replacement of that
[07:33] <eobanb> cheeseman557, probably somewhere in /media
[07:33] <grigora> eugman: what does that mean?
[07:33] <chariscomp> eobanb, any suggestions on my RAID problem? (or anyone?) Please?
[07:33] <reemusk> i cannot find flash-nonfree after installing all the repositories and reloading synaptic. can anyone assist?
[07:33] <farky_> can someone help me with setting up the nvidia driver?
[07:34] <eugman> I suggest mplayer.
[07:34] <alexicon> mplayer or something
[07:34] <siriusnova> eobanb - that is for restricted codecs, im looking for the source that Ubuntu Dapper uses for madwifi
[07:34] <eobanb> !tell jesse_ about restricted
[07:34] <eugman> Jesse_, do you have w32codecs installed?
[07:34] <jesse_> what would give me a nice picture so ican see some pussy action eh? how fucking family friendly is that bitch
[07:34] <alexicon> kick him
[07:34] <alexicon> anyway
[07:34] <nate_> !ops
[07:34] <eobanb> siriusnova, i am trying to help jesse_ as well
[07:34] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[07:34] <siriusnova> ...
[07:34] <eobanb> jesse_, please leave now.
[07:34] <cheeseman557> eobanb, i dont have a /media option
[07:34] <jesse_> get me out bitach
[07:35] <reemusk> pwnt
[07:35] <eobanb> cheeseman557, /media/whatever is the preferred mount point for drives
[07:35] <alexicon> anyway :P
[07:35] <nate_> Amaranth, many thanks, he was quite abusive
[07:35] <eugman> There are children here. Right ares?
[07:35] <eobanb> there may well be, yes.
[07:35] <spades> chilren dont have to be present to keep it civil
[07:35] <alexicon> anyone have any issues with kubuntu and xine?? im trying to use amarok and it keeps saying that xine cant find any sound device. but i can listen to music fine in any other app
[07:35] <whitepyro> right
[07:35] <FunnyHat-Away> !language
[07:35] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:35] <eobanb> cheeseman557, you'll generally want to make a directory like /media/win or something like that
[07:35] <nate_> some people don't appreciate that sort of language at any age
[07:35] <nate_> like me
[07:35] <cheeseman557> eobanb, i dont have any option with /media in it. my options are: "blank", /, /home, /boot, /usr, /var
[07:36] <chariscomp> Please help me with my RAID installation issue. Thanks!
[07:36] <alexicon> !xine >alexicon
[07:36] <eobanb> cheeseman557, what are you looking at
[07:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about xine
[07:36] <alexicon> !amarok >alexicon
[07:36] <cheeseman557> im looking at the thing after making your partitions
[07:36] <eugman> Spades, know but it removes room for argument.
[07:36] <cheeseman557> i have a fat32 partition ,a ext3 partition and a swap partition
[07:36] <cheeseman557> its asking me for the mount points
[07:36] <spades> eugman errm, i was just saying, just cuz there are kids are no reason to not keep it civil
[07:36] <eobanb> cheeseman557, ignore the mount point option there.
[07:36] <cheeseman557> so just leave it blank?
[07:36] <alexicon> ive tried two different versions of amarok but both have the same xine issue
[07:36] <eobanb> cheeseman557, that's something totally different
[07:37] <eobanb> cheeseman557, yes
[07:37] <BeanBag> can anyone help me with ntop on ubuntu?
[07:37] <cheeseman557> ok thank you very very very much
[07:37] <whitepyro> :|
[07:37] <cheeseman557> acutally
[07:37] <siriusnova> eobanb - my problem is that the madwifi-ng drivers straight from madwifi-ng dont work with Network-Manager and WPA and neither does madwiif-old so basically im screwed :(
[07:37] <cheeseman557> it says i ned to select a mount point
[07:37] <reemusk> i cannot find flash-nonfree after installing all the repositories and reloading synaptic. can anyone assist?
[07:37] <eugman> Spades, your use of double negatives confuses me. Whatever the case you are probably right.
[07:37] <alexicon> reemusk: i dont think its in there, theres some gpl version of flash
[07:38] <alexicon> but it didnt work for me
[07:38] <alexicon> i just downloaded from flash website
[07:38] <spades> eugman i agree, its too late to bother to correct myself though =/
[07:38] <alexicon> its an easy install
[07:38] <reemusk> alexicon :yeah it failed installation
[07:38] <alexicon> doh
[07:38] <eobanb> siriusnova, i'm sorry, i don't know what to tell you.  packet injection is not something most users need.
[07:38] <alexicon> any particular error erin_r
[07:38] <alexicon> reemusk: i meant
[07:38] <chariscomp> Anyone know anything about installing Ubuntu with RAID 1?
[07:39] <nesagwa> can somone help me with setting up the firmware in ivtv in xubuntu? ive tried the wiki guide but ran into alot of problems about where to put the firmware files
[07:39] <reemusk> alexicon: you meant..? :) are you typing a response
[07:39] <alexicon> reemusk: just askin if there was a particular error you got in the install
[07:40] <reemusk> alexicon: i just get an install failed. then it asks me to install through the command line
[07:40] <whitepyro> my install has errors too!.... i can't even install gmail right
[07:40] <whitepyro> lol
[07:40] <alexicon> yeah reemusk do that
[07:40] <reemusk> alexicon: that's the problem..i can't figure it out
[07:40] <eugman> install gmail?
[07:40] <alexicon> reemusk: unpack it, cd into the dir, then run the install file
[07:40] <whitepyro> qmail rather
[07:40] <alexicon> the details are on the website
[07:40] <alexicon> lemme link you
[07:40] <eugman> y ah ok that makes more sense.
[07:41] <alexicon> reemusk:
[07:41] <reemusk> alexicon: i don't think i'm that advanced, could you dumb it down a shade for me?
[07:41] <whitepyro> hehe... following tutorial soop gave me and then it errors out LOL
[07:41] <alexicon> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[07:41] <alexicon> ok reemusk what file you got atm?
[07:41] <alexicon> is it still all packed up?
[07:42] <alexicon> or do you have a directory with a bunch of stuff??
[07:42] <reemusk> alexicon: yes, it's still packed.....i downloaded it and it's open now
[07:42] <reemusk> install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[07:42] <alexicon> ok cool
[07:42] <RShadow> has anybody ever replaced syslogd with syslog-ng on their Ubuntu boxes?
[07:42] <alexicon> on the commandline do: gunzip install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[07:42] <alexicon> then do tar xvf install_flash_player_7_linux.tar
[07:42] <alexicon> that will make a directory with all the flash files and stuff
[07:42] <alexicon> tell me when you got the dir
[07:42] <farky_> Hey, can someone help me with setting up the nvidia drivers?
[07:43] <reemusk> alexicon: gunzip: install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz: No such file or directory
[07:43] <spades> tar xzf inst*
[07:43] <soop> whitepyro: where did it error out?
[07:43] <alexicon> oh well cd into the right directory first hehe
[07:43] <alexicon> whered you download the file to?
[07:44] <whitepyro> i msged to u so i don't spam cahn
[07:44] <whitepyro> chan
[07:44] <reemusk> alexicon: desktop
[07:44] <alexicon> ok so do:     cd Desktop
[07:44] <alexicon> then do the gunzip and tar commands
[07:44] <reemusk> alexicon: bash: cd: desktop: No such file or directory
[07:44] <Nordal> Anyone knows if there is'nt any mythtv packages in drapper, I have enabled multiverse, universe and the backports packages but apt-cache search mythtv only results in a mythlib package?
[07:44] <eobanb> farky_, what's the issue?
[07:44] <spades> case sensitive, ~/Desktop
[07:44] <reemusk> ah
[07:44] <alexicon> yeah big D
[07:44] <alexicon> hehe
[07:45] <reemusk> and then run the command?
[07:45] <alexicon> you can use tab to have it fill it in for you after the first letter etcetc
[07:45] <whitepyro> can i borrow someones brain so I can be a linux masta :D
[07:45] <CaptainMorgan> I can't get Kaffeine to display an mpg... I got Libxine-extracodecs, wavpack and w32codecs installed.... Im only getting sound with no display - any Ideas? - Ive tried VLC and Mplayer and all three have sound but now display.... used automatix to download every player know practically.. ALL play sound but no display
[07:45] <alexicon> the do gunzip install.......
[07:45] <farky_> eobanb: i followed the instructions on ubuntuguide.org, and when i restart gnome i get a wierd X error message
[07:45] <alexicon> then do tar xvf install....
[07:45] <jasonm> can someone explain to me how to install refus
[07:45] <alexicon> if you press tab after you start to type it will fill it in for you
[07:45] <jasonm> rufus
[07:45] <eobanb> farky_, for further reference, ubuntuguide.org is not an official guide of any kind
[07:46] <soop> whitepyro: you did?
[07:46] <Duff> Hi?
[07:46] <reemusk>  install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[07:46] <Duff> Oh awesome.
[07:46] <reemusk> alexicon: tar: install: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[07:46] <reemusk> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[07:46] <farky_> eobanb: ok hah, but can you help we with restoring my original xorg.conf?
[07:46] <Duff> Anyways, guys I have a question.
[07:46] <eobanb> sure, farky_, just do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:46] <eobanb> farky_, what's the X error message btw
[07:46] <Duff> If I download ubuntu, will I still be able to access Windows XP?
[07:47] <eobanb> Duff, yes.
[07:47] <Duff> And what if I decide to delete Ubuntu? How would I do that?
[07:47] <farky_> eobanb, i forget, but now it's saying "No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:0_ found
[07:47] <eugman> Duff, by acess you mean run right?
[07:47] <eobanb> Duff, the ubuntu installer will resize your fat32 or NTFS partition and create a menu that appears at startup allowing you to choose which operating system to start.
[07:47] <Duff> Yeah.
[07:47] <Duff> Ah.
[07:47] <eobanb> farky_, hm, odd.  well, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose nv as the driver for now
[07:47] <whitepyro> a boot loader called Grub
[07:47] <whitepyro> :D
[07:48] <whitepyro> wahoo i answered a question.. Now qmail :D
[07:48] <Duff> How about programs? Will I be able to download iTunes and programs like that on Ubuntu?
[07:48] <eobanb> Duff, all you have to do to remove ubuntu is erase the partition on which it is installed
[07:48] <eobanb> Duff, itunes is an app for windows and mac os x, and won't run on ubuntu.
[07:48] <eugman> Duff, yes and no.
[07:48] <eobanb> Duff, there are similar programmes available though.
[07:48] <jasonm> when i try and install the rufus .deb i get; dpkg-deb: `rufus_0.6.5-0ubuntu1_i386.deb' is not a debian format archive
[07:48] <jasonm> dpkg: error processing rufus_0.6.5-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (--install):
[07:48] <jasonm>  subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
[07:48] <jasonm> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:48] <jasonm>  rufus_0.6.5-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[07:48] <spades> and fixmbr from a windisc to remove grub
[07:48] <eobanb> !flood
[07:48] <jasonm> any help?
[07:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:48] <eugman> !paste
[07:49] <eobanb> jasonm, what is rufus
[07:49] <Duff> OK.
[07:49] <Duff> I think I might download it and try it out.
[07:49] <jasonm> eobanb, bit torrent client
[07:49] <spades> give the desktop livecd a whirl
[07:49] <Duff> Hopefully I won't be back here asking how to delete it.
[07:49] <jasonm> eobanb, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BitTorrent
[07:49] <whitepyro> lol 4 sure duff
[07:49] <eobanb> good to hear, Duff.  and remember, the liveCD will let you try ubuntu without having to install it on your hard drive.
[07:49] <eugman> Duff you don't have to.
[07:49] <Paladine> hillary duff is switching to linux?
[07:50] <Paladine> sweeeet
[07:50] <eugman> Duff, the desktop cd lets you give ubuntu a test drive without side effects.
[07:50] <cheeseman557> hey if i want to make a partition that is read/writable by both windows and ubuntu, what should the mount point be?
[07:50] <farky_> eobanb: im going to switch computers
[07:50] <reemusk> can anyone help me with firestarter? it says i can't activate the firewall
[07:50] <eugman> Cheeseman557, I don't think it matters that much?
[07:50] <alexicon> nite everyone!
[07:51] <Duff> How do I get a CD?
[07:51] <cheeseman557> as long as its fat32 will windows read it?
[07:51] <eugman> The website should have a link.
[07:51] <soop> Duff: you dont need itunes
[07:51] <eugman> And you can burn one or oder one which will arrive weeks from now.
[07:51] <Duff> I just need something to play my music.
[07:51] <Paladine> cheese, there are no certainties with windows, other than the certainty of uncertainty
[07:51] <Duff> And I was just using iTunes as a reference.
[07:51] <eugman> Soop, unless he has itms music.
[07:51] <soop> Duff: sudo apt-get install beep
[07:51] <johanbr> cheeseman557: 1) Anywhere 2) Yes.
[07:52] <cheeseman557> ok thank you very much
[07:52] <chariscomp> Hello, can anyone help me with a question regarding installing Ubuntu and setting up RAID 1 mirrors while doing so?
[07:52] <farky> eobanb: thanks for helping me with getting things back to normal, now can you help with setting up the driver?
[07:52] <reemusk> can anyone help me with firestarter? it says i can't activate the firewall
[07:52] <eobanb> farky, yes.
[07:52] <eugman> Duff, Using linux is like buying the generic brands. Not everyone does it, you won't always find pop tarts but it's much cheaper in the long run.
[07:52] <Duff> Well...
[07:52] <whitepyro> soop did you recieve my private message w/ the error i got?
[07:52] <farky> eobanb: should I use apt-get to install the drivers?
[07:53] <soop> whitepyro nope ...
[07:53] <eobanb> !nvidia
[07:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:53] <eugman> Generally any program in windows has a linux alternative
[07:53] <eobanb> ^-- follow that, farky
[07:53] <soop> Duff: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138405
[07:53] <reemusk> !firestarter
[07:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[07:53] <farky> eobanb: thanks
[07:53] <soop> Duff: run that script
[07:53] <eobanb> Duff, there are many music players for ubuntu
[07:53] <Duff> Alright.
[07:53] <eobanb> *sigh* no, duff, please don't.
[07:53] <InnerFIRE> I have macromedia flash installed but some websites wont load.. like chat windows..
[07:53] <InnerFIRE> do i need any other plugins.
[07:53] <Duff> Also, the reason I have been afraid to download Linux, is because when I hear people having problems with it, it's always something like...
[07:53] <InnerFIRE> ?
[07:54] <ymeng> first time user of xchat, i want to know how to config apci / apm ?
[07:54] <eobanb> soop, we don't recommend automatix to anyone because it will break things and then they come back and ask us to fix it and i'm absolutely sick of it.
[07:54] <Duff> "You need to add /server.someshit I don't understand to your main prompt.
[07:54] <eobanb> soop, people need to just read the ubuntu wiki.
[07:54] <soop> InnerFIRE: are they asking for flash8 because then you need to tell them to stop spending unneccessary money on upgrades
[07:54] <jasonm> InnerFIRe, you dont have flash 8?
[07:54] <soop> eobanb: sounds good to me
[07:54] <jasonm> InnerFIRE, the sites you are trying to use are probably flash8
[07:54] <eugman> Duff, well there is some stuff like that but it's usually cut and paste instructions.
[07:54] <reemusk> when i start firestarter it says "the device eth0 s not ready, please check your network settings and try again" well obviously it's ready if i'm using it! can anyone assist?
[07:54] <InnerFIRE> yes
[07:54] <InnerFIRE> it is i think..
[07:54] <Duff> Ah.
[07:54] <Duff> Alright, I'm out of here for now.
[07:54] <Duff> I'm going to download it.
[07:55] <soop> eobanb: what does it break?
[07:55] <Duff> Thanks for all the help guys.
[07:55] <eobanb> have fun, Duff
[07:55] <InnerFIRE> where do i get flash8?
[07:55] <eugman> OMG guys duff spelled backwards is FUD!
[07:55] <eobanb> InnerFIRE, there is no version of flash player 8 for linux.
[07:55] <soop> shit i hate when my wife puts my half empty warm beers in front of me
[07:55] <reemusk> eugman: actually it's fudd :)
[07:55] <soop> i forget they're warm and god knows how old
[07:55] <whitepyro> lol soop
[07:55] <eugman> ACTUALLY it's ffud.
[07:55] <whitepyro> soop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17141
[07:56] <reemusk> i know :)
[07:56] <InnerFIRE> do we have something to get around it?
[07:56] <reemusk> when i start firestarter it says "the device eth0 s not ready, please check your network settings and try again" well obviously it's ready if i'm using it! can anyone assist?
[07:56] <eobanb> InnerFIRE, yes, we send emails to macromedia asking for a newer version of flash for linux.
[07:56] <jasonm> InnerFIRE, install windows firefox with wine
[07:56] <soop> whitepyro: sec, pulling it up
[07:56] <eugman> Jasonm, wait flash 8 works in wine?
[07:56] <chariscomp> Please help me with my question regarding software RAID during installation. Please? :)
[07:57] <eobanb> chariscomp, what drive setup do you have
[07:57] <whitepyro> kk
[07:57] <jasonm> eugman, im watching video's on youtube as we speak
[07:57] <chariscomp> I have two PATA drives. Both on separate channels. One is hda and the other hdc.
[07:57] <jasonm> can anyone help me with my question now, hahaha
[07:58] <chariscomp> by the way, thanks for trying to help!
[07:58] <eugman> Jasonm, which was?
[07:58] <akulah> Hi
[07:58] <akulah> I hav a question
[07:58] <soop> whitepyro: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[07:59] <InnerFIRE> ok installing it now..
[07:59] <InnerFIRE> thanx
[07:59] <eobanb> the package name is build-essential, actually
[07:59] <jasonm> eugman, im trying to install Rufus... i followed the instructions found here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BitTorrent
[07:59] <eugman> Akulah, you'd save time if you went straight to asking that question.
[07:59] <akulah> when edgy will be available as cd image?
[07:59] <eobanb> akulah, not for a while
[07:59] <eobanb> akulah, discuss edgy in #ubuntu+1
[07:59] <whitepyro> ok its installing
[07:59] <chariscomp> Any further questions or suggestions?
[07:59] <akulah> K
[07:59] <akulah> TNX
[07:59] <akulah> no thanks
[07:59] <jasonm> eugman, i get a message saying: dpkg-deb: `rufus_0.6.5-0ubuntu1_i386.deb' is not a debian format archive
[08:00] <eugman> Jasonm, well from your massive pasting it sounded like the deb was corrupt or broken.
[08:00] <eugman> but I'm a semi-newb so it's a guess.
[08:00] <whitepyro> ugh
[08:00] <eugman> Does the site have a hash of the deb?
[08:00] <soop> sec, im gonna give you a bunch to apt-get
[08:00] <whitepyro> ok
[08:00] <whitepyro> cause theres new errors now lol
[08:00] <whitepyro> so thats good :P
[08:01] <fowlduck-> is there a way to use apt or dpkg to install all packages in a certain directory
[08:01] <ymeng> hi, i have a question on apm / acpi power management, can anyone help?
[08:01] <soop> whats the new error?
[08:01] <eugman> Fowlduck, install from or to?
[08:01] <ajax4> I got an error when I ran Software Update today. It said that it could not upgrade "libcairo2"...anyone know what this is all about?
[08:01] <soop> whitepyro jabber: sysmatt@gmailc.om
[08:01] <fowlduck-> eugman, from
[08:01] <soop> err gmail.com
[08:01] <whitepyro> its on qmail-remote.c
[08:02] <jasonm> eugman, i also have, Rufus_0.6.9_src.zip... would you or anyone else be able to explain to me how to install this type of fike
[08:02] <whitepyro> hmm i don't have a jabber acct lemme see if i can make one
[08:02] <eobanb> jasonm, you are trying to build from source?
[08:02] <soop> whitepyro: got msn?
[08:02] <fowlduck-> eugman, as in, I'll have a directory full of packages that I want to install, and they satisfy eachother's dependencies
[08:02] <soop> msn is the same
[08:02] <spades> fowlduck have you tried dpkg -i *  ?
[08:02] <InnerFIRE> is there a certain way i should install flash with wine?
[08:02] <soop> do yourself a favour, get a gmail account
[08:02] <InnerFIRE> it says some .dll cant be opend
[08:02] <InnerFIRE> ?
[08:02] <jasonm> eobanb, well since the .deb is broken it seems to be my only other option
[08:02] <SurfnKid> wow, amaroK now works
[08:03] <fowlduck-> spades, nopers, was just wondering before I do all that work for nothing
[08:03] <fyrestrtr> best to ask in #wine
[08:03] <eugman> fowlduck, sudo dkpg -i filename should do it. I'm not sure about a bunch of mutuall dependant ones though.
[08:03] <chariscomp> Can anyone help me with installing Ubuntu Dapper Drake using software RAID to mirror partitions?
[08:03] <SurfnKid> dont know what happened but it now plays streaming music, where before it actually crashed each time
[08:03] <reemusk> when i start firestarter it says "the device eth0 s not ready, please check your network settings and try again" well obviously it's ready if i'm using it! can anyone assist?
[08:03] <whitepyro> ya i got msn and I do have a gmail account..
[08:03] <fyrestrtr> SurfnKid: there was a recent update to it.
[08:03] <eugman> jasonm do you even have build-essential installed?
[08:03] <soop> whitepyro: gmail = jabber account
[08:03] <fowlduck-> eugman, ok, thanks for the suggestion, and you too spades
[08:03] <soop> google gmail and jabber setup
[08:03] <SurfnKid> fyrestrtr: auto or manual
[08:04] <ymeng> hello, first timer here, how should I start? just post question, hoping someone picks up? I'm confused...
[08:04] <SurfnKid> fyrestrtr: cuz i didnt do anything
[08:04] <fyrestrtr> ymeng: you got it :)
[08:04] <SurfnKid> ymeng: just chat and someone will pick up eventually :P
[08:04] <jasonm> eugman, if dapper doesnt come with it, then i dont.
[08:04] <Madpilot> ymeng, yes, just start asking questions - nobody here bites (well, they shouldn't...) ;)
[08:04] <ymeng> k :)
[08:04] <SurfnKid> ymeng: if not, its not that we're ignoring you :D
[08:04] <ymeng> i have questions on apm / acpi power management
[08:04] <SurfnKid> ymeng: hey those were my questions!
[08:04] <SurfnKid> :P
[08:05] <eugman> ymeng, come on you still aren't asking. You are describing.
[08:05] <fraroco> hello
[08:05] <fraroco> every body
[08:05] <ymeng> my cpu fan runs like crazy, (no problem with XP)
[08:05] <eugman> Fraroco, do you have a quesiton?
[08:05] <eobanb> welcome, fraroco
[08:05] <ymeng> i checked /proc can't see acpi, but i can see apm
[08:05] <ymeng> how do i enable acpi, disable apm
[08:05] <fraroco> I wanna join the sever irc.globalchat.org eugman but I can not find it in the list of servers
[08:06] <eobanb> fraroco, /server irc.globalchat.org
[08:06] <fraroco> eobanb thanks hello.
[08:06] <SurfnKid> hehe
[08:06] <SurfnKid> that was an easy
[08:06] <SurfnKid> one
[08:06] <eobanb> oh, right, i forgot xchat's default is to not open a new tab >_<
[08:06] <chariscomp> I have asked about RAID 1 during installation many times here. Is there some problem with my question or the way I am asking it? Or is it simply a case of no one knowing how to answer? Thanks for any response.
[08:06] <SurfnKid> eobanb: if real life work would be this easy
[08:06] <eobanb> heh
[08:07] <SurfnKid> chariscomp: simply a case of no one knowing
[08:07] <Madpilot> chariscomp, silence usually indicates ignorance
[08:07] <eobanb> chariscomp, have you tried posting on the forum
[08:07] <SurfnKid> :P
[08:07] <SurfnKid> whats better acpi or apm or is there not necessarily a better choice, just that one does one thing and the other one does different?
[08:07] <farky> eobanb:well, that didn't really work
[08:07] <eugman> Ubuntu wiki run on moinmoin right?
[08:08] <cwillu> what's the name of the package to make firefox pretend to be explorer?
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> SurfnKid: ACPI is a newer standard, and more powerful I believe.
[08:08] <eobanb> farky, were you having nvidia driver issues? (i cant quite remember)
[08:08] <farky> eobanb: yeah
[08:08] <reemusk> fyrestrtr: can you assist me with firestarter? when i start firestarter it says "the device eth0 s not ready, please check your network settings and try again" well obviously it's ready if i'm using it!
[08:08] <ymeng> i'm hoping acpi can help, because it sounds like more advanced than apm
[08:08] <SurfnKid> tonyyarusso: i see, could there be a way to integrate acpi with apm
[08:08] <eobanb> farky, what's the problem
[08:08] <eugman> Cwillu, go toe the firfox site and search for an extention relating to user-agent
[08:08] <chariscomp> No, I have to get this machine working by tomorrow morning. I thought this might be the quicker response method. Thanks for letting me know that my question is not being answered simply due to ignorance.
[08:08] <eugman> I think.......
[08:08] <eobanb> farky, i assume you followed the ubuntu wiki instructions
[08:08] <farky> eobanb: you pointed me to the wiki to get them installed, but I did what it said and nothing really happened
[08:09] <SurfnKid> tonyyarusso: at this point my power button will not option to standby/shutdown/restart
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> SurfnKid: Not to my knowledge anyway - I think they're totally separate things.
[08:09] <SurfnKid> Dapper used to do so
[08:09] <ymeng> i assume i have apm running, because I can ampd
[08:09] <ymeng> i can see ampd
[08:09] <fyrestrtr> reemusk: hrmm ... that's a strange error.
[08:09] <SurfnKid> tonyyarusso: oh ok right
[08:09] <jasonm> this is helpful
[08:09] <eobanb> farky, does nvidia show up as a driver option when you do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:09] <eobanb> farky, also, what graphics card do you have
[08:09] <reemusk> fyrestrtr: any ideas? i'm pretty sure i configured it right
[08:09] <SurfnKid> i wish i could get lmsensors going
[08:10] <fyrestrtr> reemusk: so you didn't go with the whole shorewall thing?
[08:10] <eobanb> SurfnKid, does your hardware have sensors?
[08:10] <SurfnKid> fan kciks in at 55C instead of 48 where i want it
[08:10] <farky> eobanb: i forget if it does, and I have a eVGA GeForce 6800 GS
[08:10] <eobanb> SurfnKid, if it's old enough (pre 2000 or so) it may not have sensors the software can access directly
[08:10] <SurfnKid> eobanb: yeah, I can control both GPU and CPU fans on XP thru I8KGUI
[08:10] <eobanb> SurfnKid, ah, okay
[08:11] <eobanb> farky, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:11] <eugman> Pffft metric! I measure by stones per furlong.
[08:11] <SurfnKid> eobanb: its a Dell 8600 lappy, Bios turns them on which is ok but i wish i could control them
[08:11] <reemusk> fyrestrtr: no sir
[08:11] <eobanb> farky, then scroll down and check if it's using nv or nvidia
[08:11] <ymeng> i can see ampd, so i figured i'm running apm, how do i enable acpi?
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> SurfnKid: I think there are instructions for modifying things like the fan on the ThinkWiki site, might help.
[08:12] <SurfnKid> tonyyarusso: will look thx
[08:12] <ymeng> there should be a acpid running
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> reemusk: let me install firestarter and see what is going on. I use shorewall -- I tried firestarter once but it didn't give me the control that I wanted (I have two network cards, and I run a vpn)
[08:12] <SurfnKid> tonyyarusso: definitely need the fan control
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> SurfnKid: you might have to build in the module for lmsensors
[08:12] <farky> eobanb: it says nvidia, and should I had the "RenderAccel" "true" property?
[08:13] <eobanb> farky, okay, great, you're using the nvidia binary drivers then.  can you open a new terminal and do glxinfo
[08:13] <eobanb> farky, and then pastebin the output
[08:13] <eobanb> !paste
[08:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:13] <SurfnKid> tonyyarusso: dont care much about apm, acpi runs, so it does cool off at approx~55C and off at 45C so its ok, but these laptops are so delicate, they are known for frying. so i dont wanna risk any dumb factor i didnt take in concern, like overheating
[08:14] <eugman> Come on, I need more easy questions so i can develop a false sense of contribution.
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> SurfnKid: Yeah, I'm considering the same.  I'm running at 51, and it often goes over.  (I've seen it go up to 79 once when there was a bug in the temp control and speedstep during beta before I noticed.)
[08:15] <reemusk> fyrestrtr: i'm just on a pc with 1 nic interface
[08:15] <farky> eobanb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17145
[08:15] <SurfnKid> tonyyarusso: ouch, be careful, so yousay its ThinkKiwi then? got a site
[08:16] <girish> hi all can anyone help me to backup the downloaded applications ?
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> SurfnKid: Wiki, not kiwi ;) http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
[08:16] <SurfnKid> lol
[08:17] <SurfnKid> my mind is still in New Zealand
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> reemusk: okay, how did you set it up?
[08:18] <SurfnKid> tonyyarusso: oh but thats for ThinkPads, mmm got one for Dells?
[08:18] <SurfnKid> :P
[08:18] <Al2O3> hello.
[08:18] <eobanb> farky, could you pastebin your xorg.conf
[08:18] <eobanb> welcome, Al2O3
[08:18] <fyrestrtr> SurfnKid: google 'linux (your dell laptop model)'
[08:18] <farky> yeah
[08:18] <SurfnKid> k
[08:18] <girish> HI dear frenz ...can nyone help me to backup the softwares i have installed to use it after installing a fresh copy og ubuntu 6?
[08:19] <hydroksyde> is it OK to develop proprietary software?
[08:19] <eobanb> girish, what software
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> hydroksyde: sure
[08:19] <kijun> hi all
[08:19] <Al2O3> Just a quick statement, then a question or two about permissions on the desktop.  I have used PPC on eMac Ubuntu occasionally in the past, not much.  I'm now installed with Dapper Drake (6.06) on x86 to setup the machine for the kids and children.
[08:19] <eobanb> hydroksyde, sure, just abide by the GPL..
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> hydroksyde: I do it all the time.
[08:19] <reemusk> i figured it out fyrstrtr:)
[08:19] <reemusk> gnite all
[08:19] <hydroksyde> ah
[08:19] <kijun> I have a problem with my DSL connection, is anyone can help me please...
[08:19] <Al2O3> that all said, I have the DD6.06 install done.  Insert CD, and it is owned by root (which is fine), but Movie Player can't read the device.
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> SurfnKid: Not offhand, but there may exist such a thing.  I'm lucky that my computer matches an exhaustive resource ;)  Don't know how much overlap there is to other machines.
[08:20] <eugman> Hydrosyde, it's understandable in certain situations but I don't like being stuck with a windows 95 program because the comapny went belly up.
[08:20] <farky> eobanb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17146
[08:20] <eobanb> Al2O3, what sort of CD is it
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> Al2O3: is it a dvd?
[08:20] <Al2O3> cd
[08:20] <SurfnKid> tonyyarusso: yeah im sure there is some compatibility i just have to read a lot, whicih i dont mind
[08:20] <Al2O3> ISO with one file on it, an .avi
[08:20] <SurfnKid> tonyyarusso: seem to get better results on linux than on windows lately :)
[08:20] <kijun> I have to do "pppoeconf" all the time whenever I reboot my labtop to get on the internet... how can I fix this??
[08:20] <Al2O3> its an ownership thing.
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> Al2O3: you probably need to mount the iso first.
[08:20] <girish_> HI dear frenz ...can nyone help me to backup the softwares i have installed to use it after installing a fresh copy og ubuntu 6?
[08:21] <eobanb> farky, yeah, try enabling RenderAccel
[08:21] <farky> [
[08:21] <eugman> kijun, not a fix but you could have it run automatically by editing your sessions preferences.
[08:21] <gdb> hydroksyde: You do not have to follow the GPL if you are developing proprietary applications on Linux that do not include GPL'ed source.  You do not have to abide by the GPL if you use GPL code in your own personal projects or "proprietary" software that you do not redistribute, either.
[08:21] <farky> eobanb: ok, and restart X?
[08:21] <Al2O3> fyrestrtr, the CD is a CD, ISO standard (9006 or whatever)
[08:21] <Al2O3> it is  not a .iso
[08:21] <hydroksyde> gdb, yes
[08:21] <girish_> HI dear frenz ...can nyone help me to backup the softwares i have installed to use it after installing a fresh copy og ubuntu 6?
[08:21] <kijun> eugman:  really?  then.. what about password that I need to type in?
[08:21] <eobanb> girish, what software
[08:22] <eobanb> girish_, what software
[08:22] <Al2O3> I'm wondering, with root.root ownership, Movie Player doesn't seem to want to play it, and users don't seem to have the ability to read it (can't cp the .avi off the CD, but can view it on the Desktop)
[08:22] <gdb> eobanb's response to you could have been construed as being misleading so I wanted to make sure you were clear on those points.
[08:22] <Al2O3> anyone got an idea on why this is the case?
[08:22] <girish_> i installed webserver apache and many ide's so i dont want to loose them wen i install newer ubuntu
[08:22] <eugman> Kijun, A little bit harder but i think you could amke a root owned bash script which starts it and is executable by anyone and have session start that up after boot.
[08:23] <girish_> eobanb: i installed webserver apache and many ide's so i dont want to loose them wen i install newer ubuntu
[08:23] <Al2O3> btw, super easy install, much like BeOS...  Congrads to the folks at Ubuntu for taking Linux to another level of simplicity.
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> girish_: backup /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:23] <girish_> how to do that
[08:23] <girish_> ?
[08:23] <kijun> eugman:  I can write it but I have no idea how I can save my password, do you know?
[08:23] <farky> eobanb: ok
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> Al2O3: well, can you browse it from nautilus?
[08:23] <eobanb> girish, i assume you want to back up your httpd.conf
[08:23] <eobanb> girish_
[08:24] <girish_> yeah i want to backup the sources too
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> gdb: he means IDEs
[08:24] <eobanb> 'the sources'?
[08:24] <eugman> gdb, ide's are programming enviroments.
[08:24] <girish_> yes the sources as well as configurations
[08:24] <gdb> I know what an IDE is, I didn't get the connection to apache.
[08:24] <eugman> Kijun, you don't have to. If root owns it then it has permission to run the program.
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> Al2O3: do you know what format the movie is in? Could be that movie player just can't recognize the format.
[08:24] <farky> eobanb: ok, i added "RenderAccel"    "true"
[08:24] <Al2O3> fyrestrtr, no it can't read it, permissions not allowed.
[08:24] <eobanb> farky, and then you have to restart X (ctrl-alt-backspace) for it to take effect
[08:25] <Al2O3> Its mounted at /media/cdrom0/...
[08:25] <farky> eobanb: i did
[08:25] <gdb> What he's saying is, "I've installed a bunch of random crap that I want to keep when I wipe the machine."  My question would be, "why wipe the machine, then.  What's preventing an upgrade?"
[08:25] <eugman> Kijun, or does that program need a password for another reason?
[08:25] <eobanb> Al2O3, what sort of files are on the disc
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> Al2O3: hrmm, that is strange ... you let the system mount it, or you mounted it yourself?
[08:25] <kijun> eugman:  I mean... whenever you do "pppoeconf", it asks you the ID and password for your DSL service... that's what I meant
[08:25] <Al2O3> system mounts it
[08:25] <eugman> Ahh ok.
[08:25] <Al2O3> eobanb, like I said, one .avi
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> gdb: I think he wants to replicate the configuration on another machine, without having to redownload everything.
[08:25] <eobanb> Al2O3, sorry, i must have missed that
[08:26] <girish_> hi thanx frenz
[08:26] <fyrestrtr> Al2O3: don't know what it could be, can you copy the file to your desktop and play it from there?
[08:26] <Al2O3> np
[08:26] <Al2O3> nope
[08:26] <Al2O3> fyrestrtr, tried that already
[08:26] <farky> eobanb: i already restarted it
[08:26] <girish_> i mean thanx fyrestrtr and eobanb
[08:26] <Al2O3> its root.root owned, with permission 600
[08:26] <gdb> girish_: Are you wanting to upgrade the machine this software is installed on or duplicate the installation on another machine that's running a newer Ubuntu?
[08:26] <eugman> Kijun open up a terminal and type man pppoeconf, it may list a way you can send the information as an argument .
[08:27] <girish_> i want to upgrade this machine
[08:27] <girish_> am using
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> Al2O3: strange -- file a bug and then change the owner of the file.
[08:27] <Al2O3> its weird, I would have suspected the CD rom would have mounted as owned by the current user.
[08:27] <kijun> eugman: that's good idea.
[08:27] <Al2O3> fyrestrtr, can't change it, it is CDROM
[08:27] <kijun> eugman:  I will try right now.
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> Al2O3: yeah you can ;)
[08:27] <girish_> gdb : i want to upgrade this machine
[08:27] <girish_> girish_ am using
[08:27] <gdb> girish_: So what is the compelling reason you have to wipe the machine rather than upgrading the operating system in place?
[08:27] <Al2O3> fyrestrtr, I'll try.
[08:27] <eugman> Kijun, after enough linux you get used to that sort of thinking.
[08:27] <eobanb> farky, try glxinfo again
[08:27] <girish_> i cant find a way to upgrade
[08:27] <girish_> thatz it
[08:28] <fyrestrtr> Al2O3: see what entry you have for your cdrom in /etc/fstab
[08:28] <girish_> the gksudo doesn't provide option
[08:28] <Al2O3> fyrestrtr, nope, Read Only File System error.
[08:28] <farky> eobanb: same thing as before
[08:28] <gdb> girish_: Then I think the question you want to be asking is, "how can I upgrade the Ubuntu I have to the new Ubuntu?" rather than what you've asked so far.
[08:28] <Al2O3> fyrestrtr, this is the Desktop 6.06 distro, right out of the box.  No mods.
[08:28] <eugman> girish, read this wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[08:28] <tito_> i installed Xubuntu but i sweat it looks like Gnome.......any way to make it look a bit diff?
[08:28] <Al2O3> Only thing I want to do with this system is make a simple computer/media center for the kids and wife.
[08:28] <Al2O3> I'll check out /etc/fstab
[08:28] <kijun> eugman:  there is very little infomation about pppoeconf unlike the other commands
[08:28] <eugman> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[08:29] <matheus> hello!
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> tito_: you can always change the theme
[08:29] <Al2O3> btw, how can I get a root account on this distro...  Tried to Terminal/su and says I can't.
[08:29] <Al2O3> do I need to add me to admin group?
[08:29] <eugman> Matheus, have a question? Skip to step three where you ask if so.
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> !root
[08:29] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:29] <girish_> gdb:gdb: but the problem is that i got some link yesterday to some manual and the options shown in that are not there in my desktop app
[08:29] <kijun> eugman:  only description and author...
[08:29] <matheus> eugman, yes :)
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> Al2O3: ^ is for you
[08:29] <matheus> eugman, when upgrade to ubuntu 6
[08:29] <SurfnKid> goin to crash, thx for the help guys
[08:30] <gdb> girish_: huh?
[08:30] <SurfnKid> l8r
[08:30] <eugman> Kijun, hmm how odd. pppoeconf --help may work but I doubt it. I'll do some snooping on the internets.
[08:30] <matheus> eugman, app that I did build with the old kernel headers... Need to rebuild ?
[08:30] <eugman> Matheus, NOW! Seriously you can do it anytime you want.
[08:30] <girish_> gdb:yes the gksudo doesnot show a button to upgrade to newer linux
[08:30] <girish_> as it is said in the manual
[08:30] <InnerFIRE> why does firefox randomly close by itself..
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> Al2O3: a quick way to become root is to type sudo bash -- and when you are done, type exit. We discourage people using root for anything other that short sysadmin tasks, which is why the root account is 'disabled' on ubuntu installs, and we encourage the use of sudo.
[08:30] <InnerFIRE> i installed it with wine so that i could use flash8
[08:31] <eugman> Matheus, probably since dapper uses a newer version of the kernel but I'm no expert
[08:31] <gdb> girish_: Which Ubuntu are you running?  And have you installed *every* available update?
[08:31] <kijun> eugman:  I did that so many times...
[08:31] <kijun> eugman:  thanks for your help anyway
[08:31] <matheus> eugman, is too many apps :(
[08:31] <girish_> am running 5.1
[08:31] <girish_> breezy
[08:31] <eugman> Well You might be able to lock your kernel version.
[08:31] <gdb> girish_: Also, you do not need or want to use -d at this time.
[08:32] <eugman> Or even better I may be wrong.
[08:32] <gdb> girish_: That would have you installing Edgy Eft, not Dapper Drake.  Simply run Update Manager normally.
[08:32] <farky> eobanb: I got the same output as last time
[08:32] <Al2O3> fyrestrtr, I have been using *NIX for about 17 years :)
[08:32] <gdb> girish_: Your other option is to do the editing of /etc/apt/souces.list method.
[08:33] <matheus> anyone can tell me about if need to rebuild apps that uses kernel headers when upgrade to dapper ....
[08:33] <girish_> to do wat?
[08:33] <Al2O3> I have once on NeXTStep 0.9 destroyed an install back in 1989 with bad use of su, I learned then to do stupid things once and never again.
[08:33] <gdb> girish_: if I am not mistaken, the alternative CD also offers an "upgrade in place" option (I could be mistaken about that one).
[08:33] <Al2O3> but I appreciate the scene here and will use sudo instead.
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> Al2O3: ah then -- you should know why we discourage the use of 'root' here. Ubuntu attracts a lot of linux newbies.
[08:33] <Al2O3> yes, I appreciate that :)
[08:33] <girish_> but wat can i do by eiting sources.list?
[08:33] <Al2O3> and I have done dumb things to know why.
[08:33] <girish_> but wat can i do by editing sources.list?
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> Al2O3: you are lucky, I had to wreck a gentoo server ... twice before I learned that lesson.
[08:33] <gdb> girish_: What's posted in that documentation that ubotu keeps telling you about.
[08:33] <girish_> ok
[08:34] <girish_> thank u verymuch gdb
[08:34] <gdb> girish_: You can upgrade to Dapper in place.
[08:34] <girish_> ok
[08:34] <Al2O3> ok, here is the entry for /etc/fstab
[08:34] <gdb> girish_: Change all instances of "breezy" to "dapper" do an apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:34] <Al2O3> /dev/hdc  /media/cdrom0  udf,iso9660 user,noauto  0   0
[08:34] <gdb> make sure you back up your important files first ;) (which probably brings you back to your original question).
[08:34] <Al2O3> that seems standard
[08:35] <Al2O3> and shouldn't it then be mounted as the user currently in session?
[08:35] <eugman> fyrestrtr, whats the difference between sudo su and sudo bash?
[08:35] <girish_> ok gdb will that consume a lot of my download limit
[08:35] <girish_> ?
[08:35] <fyrestrtr> Al2O3: yeah, don't know what happened in your case. It really is strange. My knee jerk would be to add a mask to the options line in fstab, but I wonder why it would do that to you, and not to me.
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> Can you use the Desktop CD as an apt source?
[08:36] <gdb> girish_: It will not consume any more than downloading a Dapper CD image would.  But it will consume a fair bit of it.
[08:36] <InnerFIRE> why does firefox randomly close by itself..
[08:36] <InnerFIRE> i installed it with wine so that i could use flash8
[08:36] <Al2O3> tonyyarusso, was that directed to me?
[08:36] <Al2O3> and if so, what is apt source mean?
[08:36] <tonyyarusso> Al2O3: Only if you know the answer.
[08:36] <Al2O3> lol
[08:36] <Al2O3> ok, I guess not.
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> eugman: sudo -- temporarily allows you to run commands as another user, as long as you are in a sudoers list file. You use your own password to authenticate. su is switch user, for which you need the password of the other user account you want to switch to. sudo bash just launches the bash shell as the superuser (root).
[08:37] <girish_> ok can i backup all the applications in cache to harddisk and start from a fresh install and afterwards copy the backup files to cache again?
[08:37] <girish_> gdb:
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> another (subtle, but important) difference is that your shell environment doesn't change with sudo, only with su.
[08:38] <girish_> r they version independent
[08:38] <girish_> ?
[08:38] <girish_> i mean the packages
[08:38] <gdb> girish_: Since none of really has a firm grasp on what you're asking, "backup my <unspecified> applications", what you're asking is really outside the scope of this channel.  I would encourage you to seek consulting services local to where you are.
[08:38] <farky> eobanb: i think i got it to work! check out this pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17147
[08:38] <Al2O3> fyrestrtr, so how would the entry in /etc/fstab look to work for me here?
[08:38] <theshibboleth> I'm trying to use gftp, but I seem only to be able to type in the first four characters of my password. Any ideas?
[08:38] <girish_> ok thank u gdb
[08:38] <Al2O3> fyrestrtr, I'll take a hack solution to make this work now instead of doing it 'right' and figuring out a clean solution.
[08:39] <fyrestrtr> Al2O3: add a mask= option, which gives a liberal mask to the files. Like 666
[08:39] <rixth> Is there any decent Flash for x64 yet?
[08:39] <gdb> girish_: I'm just afraid that if you went by random advice from people making assumptions about what software you're talking about, you're going to end up losing data.
[08:39] <gdb> girish_: It sounds to me like you need to have a friend / guru / etc actually look at your machine and talk over with you what you're wanting to do, and then helping you make that transition.
[08:39] <girish_> ok gdb: now i will try some fair way
[08:39] <Al2O3> fyrestrtr, makes sense, will do it.
[08:40] <Al2O3> right now I sudo'ed to root with sudo sh, then copying to desktop, and seeing if that will work.
[08:40] <Al2O3> I'll do the mask solution to make it work (brute force) and see if that also works.
[08:40] <Al2O3> brb with results.
[08:40] <gdb> Al2O3: I think you want to use "sudo -s" for that. ;-)
[08:40] <gdb> With no other arguments.
[08:42] <Al2O3> gdb, I use sh by default :)
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> rixth: don't think so.
[08:42] <Al2O3> so -s and sh are the same to me
[08:42] <rixth> I hate that. Practically all processors made these days are 64bit, right?
[08:42] <gdb> so are sh and bash
[08:43] <Al2O3> rixth, no practically all processors today are 8 bit or 16
[08:43] <rixth> Well, computer processors.
[08:43] <rixth> Not microwave or calculator processors =)
[08:43] <Al2O3> :)
[08:43] <Al2O3> or car processors, or space shuttle processors
[08:43] <gdb> The 3 processors that run an F/A-18 are 8088s.
[08:43] <rixth> Good ole 2038 bug.
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> or processors for your phone or pda
[08:44] <Al2O3> scarey thought that foam is not going to stop the NASA 'discovery' channel.
[08:44] <professornorf> yarg
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> are they going to try it again?
[08:44] <Al2O3> fyrestrtr, they are a go with launch today
[08:44] <rixth> fyrestrtr, Tuesday
[08:44] <Al2O3> and my kid said, wait for daytime fireworks.
[08:44] <gdb> It's scary how NASA used to be a bunch of really bright guys doing really amazing things.  Now it's a bunch of really short sighted guys doing really amazingly dumb things.
[08:45] <professornorf> ahoy
[08:45] <Al2O3> he's only 10, and he isn't ***THAT*** stupid to not be worried or have concerns about defective foam.
[08:45] <fyrestrtr> hrmm, I might watch the nasa tv webcast of that, do you know what time they will try?
[08:45] <Cntryboy> Hello all, I backed up all my /var/cache/apt/archives today and reinstalled using kubuntu, but now after I copied files from cd-r to the dir and type in sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx I get an error
[08:45] <rixth> Are Dual Core's worth the money?
[08:45] <Al2O3> gdb, they are concerned about one thing, budget, budget and more budget.  If this one doesn't fly, NASA may as well kiss its ass goodbye and hello to smallscale commercial solutions.
[08:45] <fyrestrtr> rixth: the mobile ones from intel are.
[08:46] <gdb> rixth: is having 2 physical CPUs worth the money to you?
[08:46] <dli> rixth, yes, run gentoo :)
[08:46] <gdb> dli: yay a fanboi
[08:46] <gdb> #gentoo is that way ~~>
[08:46] <dli> fyrestrtr, amd also has dual core mobil
[08:46] <rixth> I just feel it's time for a PC upgrade. The fact of no Flash worries me, though.
[08:46] <fyrestrtr> dli: yeah but I heard they have heat management issues.
[08:46] <fyrestrtr> rixth: buy a mac then -- flash runs fine, and its dual core.
[08:47] <Cntryboy> only shit im lagging
[08:47] <dli> rixth, sounds like a software problem
[08:47] <Cntryboy> Hello all, I backed up all my /var/cache/apt/archives today and reinstalled using kubuntu, but now after I copied files from cd-r to the dir and type in sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx I get an error
[08:47] <professornorf> Cntryboy, what error
[08:47] <rixth> I mean, I've just ordered a new Dell LCD (woop!) and I've currently got 512mb ram and 2400+ XP CPU. Kinda lacking, I need my machine to match m display
[08:47] <gdb> Cntryboy: I did something today and it didn't work.  Why?
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> Cntryboy: copied to where?
[08:47] <gdb> Cntryboy: You need to be a bit more explicit about your issue.
[08:48] <Cntryboy> Package nvidia-glx is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:48] <Cntryboy> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:48] <Cntryboy> is only available from another source
[08:48] <Cntryboy> E: Package nvidia-glx has no installation candidate
[08:48] <Cntryboy> opps sorry
[08:48] <Madpilot> rixth, just stuff a bunch more RAM in your current box - 1Gb + a 2400+ CPU will be fine
[08:48] <rixth> Madpilot, and fx5200 gfx.
[08:48] <rixth> This display is 1920 * 1200 pixels, not sure that card will even output at that res.
[08:48] <Al2O3> fyrestrtr, btw, where in that line should the mask=644 be inserted, and tab delimited?  should it read...
[08:49] <tito_> /
[08:49] <Al2O3> /dev/hdc<tab>/media/cdrom0<tab>udf,iso9660,mask=644<tab>...
[08:49] <fyrestrtr> in the options column, where it has user,noauto
[08:49] <Cntryboy> mmm, I copied my backed up /var/cache/apt/archives from a cd-r and pasted them in /var/cache/apt/archives after I reinstalled.. Then I typed sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx and I get that error I pasted up top..
[08:49] <fyrestrtr> no, <tab>udf,iso9660<tab>user,noauto,mask=644<tab>
[08:50] <Al2O3> ok, the copy to desktop worked with Terminal and sudo -s/sh
[08:50] <dli> Cntryboy, don't repeat :(
[08:50] <Al2O3> fyrestrtr, ty
[08:50] <Al2O3> now I'll try and remount
[08:50] <dli> Cntryboy, obiviously, you need packages.ubuntu.com
[08:50] <Cntryboy> he wanted to know where, and ive already said it
[08:51] <Cntryboy> dli is it, why would I need the packages when I have them in my dir
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> Cntryboy: you copied the packages from the same version?
[08:51] <Cntryboy> remember I BACKED them up
[08:51] <Ademan> hey how do i make grub aware of a windows partition?
[08:51] <Cntryboy> I copied them after I reinstalled kubuntu
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> Ademan: just add the entry to its menu.lst file
[08:52] <Cntryboy> how easier do I have to explain this lol
[08:52] <Ademan> fyrestrtr: alright, we'll see how well i'll do with that, thanks though
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> Ademan: there is a wiki entry for that
[08:52] <Ademan> haha, alright, i'll chec kit out
[08:53] <professornorf> Cntryboy, your ghay
[08:53] <Cntryboy> I have 2.1KB so I backed up the archive files so I wouldn't have to redownload them, after fresh reinstall I copied the back up files to the main archive dir. But the apt-get install isn't working like normal
[08:53] <Al2O3> trying to restart, as an eject and close doesn't mount the CD at all...
[08:54] <Cntryboy> professornorf: what ever dude
[08:54] <g-nome> should i update lo libcairo2?
[08:54] <Al2O3> professornorf, I'm new here and I find you offensive.
[08:54] <selinium> hi all, is there an OS application similar to Ghost for linux
[08:54] <Cntryboy> it's just Ive repeated myself now for a 100 times, and im still getting asked the same questions..
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> selinium: norton ghost?
[08:55] <selinium> fyrestrtr: yes, similar to norton ghost...
[08:56] <fyrestrtr> selinium: well, not sure. But there are ways to get similar functionality. You can create your own livecds, or have a central server that holds all your packages from which you install.
[08:56] <Cntryboy> can't anyone help me with this?
[08:56] <fyrestrtr> selinium: there are people that have done it before, but I don't recall there being an app that does it in one shot.
[08:56] <professornorf> Cntryboy, i can
[08:56] <fyrestrtr> Cntryboy: question -- what do you mean 'I have 2.1KB'
[08:56] <Cntryboy> 2.1kb dial up
[08:56] <Duff> Alright guys.
[08:56] <selinium> fyrestrtr: and use an 'if of' type arrangement?
[08:56] <Duff> I'm back.
[08:57] <professornorf> Cntryboy, i can help you
[08:57] <Cntryboy> so i was trying to save myself the trouble of redownloading, by backing up the files in archives
[08:57] <fyrestrtr> selinium: don't understand what you mean by 'if of' type arrangement.
[08:57] <Al2O3> fyrestrtr, once I take out the mask=644 we are back to mounting with root.root and 600 permissions
[08:57] <Cntryboy> after i reinstalled using kubuntu, I copied the files from cd-r I made and put them in the main archive dir.
[08:57] <Al2O3> weird as getup.
[08:57] <Al2O3> I know this should not be happening.
[08:57] <Cntryboy> apt-get install gives me an error when i know I have that file
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> Cntryboy: let me get this straight -- you had a kubuntu workstation. You backed up the cached packages. Then you installed kubuntu on another PC, and copied the packages over, and now apt-get won't read the new packages. Is this correct?
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> Al2O3: hrmm, you can try one thing.
[08:58] <professornorf> no fyrestrtr
[08:58] <professornorf> thats not it at all
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> Al2O3: try setting the guid or uid instead of the umask.
[08:58] <professornorf> what Cntryboy is trying to say is hes retarded
[08:58] <Cntryboy> fyrestrtr: pretty close, I had ubuntu at first, and reinstalled using kubuntu on this pc
[08:58] <professornorf> and dosnt know how to perform basic mindless repetitive tasks
[08:59] <professornorf> right Cntryboy?
[08:59] <Al2O3> ok, I'm uid 1000, so I'll try uid=1000   ???
[08:59] <Cntryboy> professornorf: thx dude :) glad u have fun acting 10 yippie for u, wanna slushi?
[08:59] <Ademan> what should i put for the kernel in menu.lst? I gave it the title and root partition... do i need to specify a kernel for a windows boot?
[08:59] <selinium> fyrestrtr: cheers, I want to build a live CD to administer all types of networks. including windoze.... arghhh :)
[08:59] <professornorf> Cntryboy, yes as a matter of fact i do
[08:59] <professornorf> add jager to it
[08:59] <professornorf> and we'll all be happy
[09:00] <Cntryboy> week and half to linux professqueer eat me
[09:00] <Cntryboy> now buzz off kid
[09:00] <professornorf> im not hungry
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> Cntryboy: I'm not an expert, but I don't know if kubuntu and ubuntu packages are interchangable. Anyway, you could just do dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/sources/package-file-name
[09:00] <Duff> Do you guys know where I can get a live CD? I tried the ubuntu website, but the ship-it website is down.
[09:00] <professornorf> im 2980 years old
[09:00] <professornorf> I am god
[09:00] <professornorf> I own you
[09:00] <professornorf> BLARGGGG
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> !ops
[09:00] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[09:00] <Cntryboy> well own my dingy in ur mouth and shut the freak up
[09:00] <professornorf> its professor queer to you asshole
[09:01] <ufk> how can i change the default window manager? (don't use gdm)
[09:01] <Duff> Do you guys know where I can get a live CD? I tried the ubuntu website, but the ship-it website is down.
[09:01] <Al2O3> well, that is a bit better, now I'm not able to play it due to the codec's not being installed :)
[09:01] <Cntryboy> fyrestrtr: still here man?
[09:01] <fyrestrtr> ufk: that's the login manager, you can just install another one.
[09:01] <ufk> i don't want a login manager
[09:01] <ufk> i have no login manager.
[09:01] <Al2O3> next question, is there a bulk distro/install package for the major encoders to work with Movie Player?
[09:01] <Madpilot> Duff, you can download the ISO & burn your own - it's a ~600Mb download
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> ufk: you just want to login directly to gnome?
[09:02] <Al2O3> or is the FAQ starting to sound like my friend here?
[09:02] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Al2O3 about restricted
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> !tell Al2O3 about RestrictedFormats
[09:02] <jgonzalez> hi, i have 2 ubuntus and has the same problem, in "printer driver list" appears in blank, what could happend ?
[09:02] <jgonzalez> thanks
[09:02] <ufk> fyrestrtr, or anything else... if i want to change the default window manger to something else, what do i dol?
[09:02] <Cntryboy> professornorf: if your god help me with my problem instead of acting childish, i'm stoned, it's late, i'm tired, and im new to linux.. alright?
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> ufk: just install another one -- there are a few in the repositories.
[09:02] <Al2O3> !root
[09:02] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> !restricted
[09:02] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:03] <Al2O3> ah, ! notation is for the bot, ubotu :)  I'm getting warmer now.
[09:03] <Madpilot> Cntryboy, professornorf got himself banned
[09:03] <g-nome> i can't upodate libcairo2 :-(, it says: Depends on libfreetype6 (>=2.2.1), but 2.1.10-1ubuntu2.1 is installed. ???
[09:03] <Al2O3> fyrestrtr, ty
[09:03] <fyrestrtr> hrmm the tell trigger is not working.
[09:03] <Madpilot> Al2O3, you should have gotten a PM from ubotu too
[09:03] <ufk> ok i found it thanks
[09:03] <Cntryboy> madpilot: okay
[09:04] <Deadly_Aim> does anyone who knows exactly how to install wine on breezy wanna help me in private chat?
[09:04] <Deadly_Aim> i need help :P
[09:04] <Cntryboy> fyrestrtr: can you help me purdy please :(, im sooo tired of sitting here
[09:05] <Consty> Deadly_Aim: Thought that the channel only supports dapper now?
[09:05] <Al2O3> Madpilot, I sure did
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> Cntryboy: I wish I could, but I don't have experience with kubuntu and I don't want to give you wrong advice.
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> Cntryboy: ask in #kubuntu
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> ubotu: botsnack
[09:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about botsnack
[09:05] <Cntryboy> fyrestrtr: if I was using just gnome what would u tell me to do, ill try it
[09:05] <jrattner1> !gaim2
[09:05] <ubotu> Packages for Gaim 2 beta 3 can be found via https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-April/072721.html
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> !msgthebot
[09:06] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[09:06] <Cntryboy> fyrestrtr: kubuntu room is silent and boring
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> Cntryboy: well, first thing you do is sudo apt-get update
[09:06] <Cntryboy> fyrestrtr: why would I have to do that if I saved all the current deb packages?
[09:07] <Cntryboy> sorry bro im new to this and just trying to understand it
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> Cntryboy: don't know, but just try it.
[09:07] <aunes> what's the command line tool to check disk usage?
[09:07] <Cntryboy> only had kubuntu for hour now and its confusing enough, especially using gnome for the first week/half
[09:07] <Duff> If I download it. And burn it, does it still come with that thing where I can test it.
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> aunes: du
[09:07] <aunes> fyrestrtr: thx
[09:07] <Duff> And not actually have it on my hard drive.
[09:07] <Madpilot> Duff, the LiveCD? Yes
[09:07] <Duff> But if I make my own?
[09:08] <Duff> Download the .iso and burn it, I mean.
[09:08] <Cntryboy> fyrestrtr:
[09:08] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get update
[09:08] <Cntryboy> Reading package lists... Done
[09:08] <Deadly_Aim>  does anyone who knows exactly how to install wine on breezy wanna help me in private chat?
[09:08] <Madpilot> Duff, go to the download page, get the "desktop" ISO file, burn it, that'll get you the LiveCD w/ install option
[09:08] <Duff> Alright.
[09:08] <Duff> Thanks.
[09:08] <Duff> Again.
[09:08] <Madpilot> Duff, the ISOs you download are completely identical to the pressed CDs from ShipIt
[09:08] <Cntryboy> fyrestrtr: took a sec, meaning it was prob up to date right?
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> Can the Desktop CD be used as an apt source?
[09:09] <aunes> fyrestrtr: du is just listing the size of every file on the HDD. Is there something that will just show the totals based on /dev/hda /dev/hdc etc.
[09:09] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, don't think so
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Dang.  Although, when I stuck it in it suggested maybe I could, but everything I've heard says otherwise...
[09:10] <soop> tonyyarusso: yup
[09:10] <soop> you'll notice that in the /etc/apt/sources.list the first line refernces the cd
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> aunes: df :)
[09:11] <soop> but most people comment it out
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> soop: Well, my line references the Alternate.
[09:11] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, I haven't tried it myself, TBH. But I know you're stuck w/ dialup, which must make some of the big updates... interesting...
[09:11] <Cntryboy> fyrestrtr: well does it?
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> just a sec
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> on phone
[09:11] <Cntryboy> zzz
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Most notably, if I want KDE and Gnome, kubuntu-desktop would be special.
[09:12] <Madpilot> Al2O3, reading the RestrictedFormats page, are you? :)
[09:12] <soop> oooh getting kde is like 75 meg download, that'd be painful to grab via dialup
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> soop: Try 160 MB.
[09:13] <Al2O3> Madpilot, and some.
[09:13] <Al2O3> I also understand this problem will pose a serious limitation for mainstream to come and use Ubuntu as a result, and that saddens me.
[09:14] <Al2O3> This distro is by far IMHO the best I have seen linux desktop, and this one issue will not go away, thus making the media hungry masses stop and wonder why their .avi's won't play here when they will in OSX and Windblows out of box.
[09:14] <Al2O3> there is no way around it, and that saddens me to see.
[09:15] <konfuzed> ok i wanna know where I can find the desktopbackground image so I can email it to somebody
[09:15] <konfuzed> the desktop properties wont eveal the path
[09:15] <Healot> RMS is the coolest geek ever
[09:15] <Al2O3> Healot, that is a matter of opinion of course, but I respect yours as much as the next groupie :)
[09:15] <Duff> Alright, I downloaded the .iso
[09:16] <Duff> It has 8 files and 11 folders, right?
[09:16] <Duff> I need to know how to run the little trial thing so I can test it out.
[09:16] <Cntryboy> when writing a file to a dir with same file name what is the command to over right the other file when u cp a file
[09:17] <Cntryboy> *write
[09:17] <Madpilot> konfuzed, /usr/share/ something - let me check
[09:17] <konfuzed> thanks mucho
[09:17] <Madpilot> konfuzed, /usr/share/backgrounds
[09:17] <eXCeSS> guyz i wana lurn linicks bekuz i red sumwere that onley smart ppl uze it
[09:18] <eXCeSS> ^_^
[09:18] <tonyyarusso> konfuzed: It's probably in gconf - looking.
[09:18] <Cntryboy> glad someone is getting help, ive been here 30 min now or longer and haven't gotten any where
[09:18] <epinephrine> eXCeSS: for your own sake, I hope you're joking.
[09:18] <eXCeSS> epinephrine: lol yes i am
[09:18] <eXCeSS> Cntryboy: dont be so bitter
[09:19] <Knome> Cntryboy: cp /dir/file1 /dir/file2
[09:19] <Duff> How do I run the trial thing?
[09:19] <Tmob> Cntryboy, you should rather try google
[09:19] <Cntryboy> and that over writes it? I thought I had to have a - (letter) to over write
[09:19] <Tmob> Cntryboy, -f
[09:19] <Cntryboy> tmob: if you had 2.1KB dialup google takes 15 min to load
[09:19] <tonyyarusso> ...why is the Dapper background called warty-final?
[09:19] <Cntryboy> would use wanna wait when ur dead tired
[09:20] <eXCeSS> Cntryboy: i wouldnt be touching anything i didnt konw if i was 'dead tired'
[09:20] <eXCeSS> Cntryboy: the internet is a bunch of tubes
[09:20] <konfuzed> cause edubuntu-girl is not available in dapper-edubuntu
[09:20] <Cntryboy> excess: im the type that sits at it until its done :(
[09:20] <[Nige] > hi all
[09:20] <cyphase> what's the ~/.wapi folder for?
[09:20] <eXCeSS> Cntryboy: not a truck
[09:20] <Duff> I need to know how to install ubuntu.
[09:20] <cyphase> something to do with mono?
[09:20] <eXCeSS> Duff: click th einstall icon
[09:20] <[Nige] > i deleted a folder is there anyway I can get it back?
[09:20] <Duff> Umm...
[09:21] <cyphase> [Nige] : maybe it's in the trash?
[09:21] <Duff> There is no install icon.
[09:21] <Tmob> Cntryboy, trust me.. i have been in your situation.. google saves a lot of time.. its just worth giving a shot.. many times i just get it in the first link itself..
[09:21] <[Nige] > cyphase,  no
[09:21] <[Nige] > its not
[09:21] <cyphase> hmm
[09:21] <cyphase> i don't know then
[09:21] <eXCeSS> [Nige] : you're screwed
[09:21] <[Nige] > i havent written anything to the drive since then
[09:21] <cyphase> i'm sure it's possible though
[09:21] <[Nige] > eXCeSS, really....
[09:21] <konfuzed> my daughter was a little bumbed at the green earth map on green background look
[09:21] <Madpilot> Duff, there should be an "Install Ubuntu" link on your desktop, if you're running the LiveCD
[09:21] <[Nige] > i thought you could do it.............
[09:21] <Cntryboy> tmob: I ususally do, but I can't phrase my questions tonigth lol.
[09:21] <eXCeSS> [Nige] : i have no idea lol you prolly can
[09:21] <Cntryboy> brb
[09:21] <Duff> How do I run the liveCD?
[09:21] <Duff> That's my question.
[09:22] <eXCeSS> ROFL
[09:22] <Duff> I've only downloaded the .iso
[09:22] <eXCeSS> Duff: burn it
[09:22] <eXCeSS> Duff: to a cd
[09:22] <eXCeSS> Duff: then put it in and restart
[09:22] <Duff> Alright.
[09:22] <eXCeSS> Duff: and then your computer is like OH NO A LINUX CD SELF DESTRUCTIING
[09:22] <Duff> And this is going to do what? Run ubuntu?
[09:22] <eXCeSS> Duff: do you have nero
[09:22] <Duff> No, I don't have nero.
[09:22] <eXCeSS> Duff: what cd thing do you use
[09:23] <Duff> Recordnow!
[09:23] <Madpilot> Duff, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[09:23] <Madpilot> there's a link to a freeware ISO burner for WinXP there
[09:23] <Duff> Alright.
[09:23] <cyphase> found it: http://www.mono-project.com/Mod_mono
[09:24] <Duff> Sorry for me being a complete idiot at this.
[09:24] <Duff> I'm young and learning.
[09:24] <eXCeSS> good
[09:24] <eXCeSS> keep an open mind and youll go far
[09:24] <eXCeSS> dont give up either stick with it
[09:24] <soop> Duff: you've got the iso right?
[09:24] <soop> did you burn it?
[09:24] <Madpilot> Duff, no problem - only suggestion I've got is to ease off on the Enter key a bit - one line per thought is good :)
[09:24] <eXCeSS> and you can be the 3j33t h4x0r on your clock
[09:24] <Gorlist> Hi - quick question, does a Logitech Momo Forcefeedback steering wheel work in Buntu??
[09:24] <nbjayme> HELP!!! we're having problem with networking on Ubuntu AMD64 : Ethernet Controller:Realtek Semiconductor Co.,Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+(rev10) ....
[09:24] <soop> nbjayme: whats the issue?
[09:25] <eXCeSS> block
[09:25] <eXCeSS> *
[09:25] <Duff> I have the .iso, I'm going to go and get a blank CD to burn it right now.
[09:25] <soop> there you go
[09:25] <nbjayme> can't connect to network.....
[09:25] <soop> nbjayme: www.pastebin.ca and post /etc/network/interfaces from your machine
[09:26] <mouse> Just finished adjusting my xorg.conf, wanted to see if it was working better
[09:26] <mouse> Earlier it took a second for the irc page to scroll, but now it seems to be functioning much more efficiently
[09:27] <g-nome> i can't upodate libcairo2 :-(, it says: Depends on libfreetype6 (>=2.2.1), but 2.1.10-1ubuntu2.1 is installed. ???
[09:27] <soop> then post the pastebin link here
[09:27] <soop> do the same with the results from the command "ifconfig"
[09:27] <mouse> Test
[09:27] <eXCeSS> mouse: no
[09:27] <mouse> Running beautifully
[09:27] <Duff> Also, when it says "Burn the ISO", it means all the files and folders individually, right? Or do I put them all in one folder and burn that?
[09:27] <snoops> how do I go about binding mouse buttons to other mouse buttons?
[09:28] <Rede> I've installed apache2 via apt, but it doesnt start automatically. i think it might be related to the way the "sudo/etc/init.d/apache2 start" command doesn't seem to start the server (there isn't even any output, error or otherwise) but "sudo apache2" does work. "sudo /etc/init.d apache2 stop" does start the server when i've started it via "sudo apache2". does anyone know how i might resolve this?
[09:28] <eXCeSS> you dont extract the iso, you hit burn image or something like that
[09:28] <eXCeSS> its a disc-image
[09:28] <Al2O3> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-74857744ddf74499c6447a19c7e94a2fcb382e0c  is that my saviour?
[09:28] <KenSentMe> Duff: you should burn it like an iso image. That's an option in you burning program.
[09:28] <Duff> Alright.
[09:28] <eXCeSS> so you dont put it on the cd, and you dont extract it
[09:28] <KenSentMe> !burniso > Duff
[09:28] <KenSentMe> !burniso
[09:28] <ubotu> burniso is To burn an ISO CD in windows, mac, or linux, read the howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[09:28] <KenSentMe> Duff: check the page ubotu sent you
[09:28] <Al2O3> do I have to basically apt-get install all that stuff :)
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> Rede: first you are not starting the server when you do sudo apache2
[09:29] <mouse> Apparently while this stupid neomagic supports 24bit color, it runs so badly as to make it unbearable.
[09:29] <Madpilot> Al2O3, more or less, yes
[09:29] <Gorlist> does Linux have something like Daemon Tools to mount virtual CDs?
[09:29] <Duff> Ubuntu sent me a page?
[09:29] <KenSentMe> Al2O3: yes
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> Rede: secondly, check the apache log files ( /var/log/apache2/error.log ) for any clues.
[09:29] <nbjayme> soop, my mate is going to countercheck anything we missed.... gonna post the status on this problem.... :)
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> Gorlist: yeah, mount :)
[09:29] <Madpilot> Duff, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto - i think I gave you this URL already, though?
[09:29] <Gorlist> oh,
[09:29] <KenSentMe> Duff: you got a message from ubotu, but it's here in this channel too, after i typed !burniso
[09:29] <dli> Gorlist, to mount .iso images? mount -oloop foo.iso /mnt/blah
[09:30] <Duff> Oh OK. THAT page.
[09:30] <Rede> ok. to be more accurate: when i run that command the server responds to me typing my ip into my browser
[09:30] <Gorlist>  :) right, can it be done from a menu as well?? :)
[09:31] <Mouse> :)
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> Rede: seems its working then.
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> Gorlist: don't know, but its easy to create a shortcut for it.
[09:31] <Gorlist> right will try now thanks
[09:31] <Al2O3> gstreamer0.10-pitfdll seems to be missing at the standard apt-get repository locations.  Any clue where it can be found now?
[09:32] <Madpilot> !info gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[09:32] <ubotu> gstreamer0.10-pitfdll: GStreamer plugin for using MS Windows binary codecs. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 0.9.1.1+cvs20060312-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 79 kB, installed size 260 kB
[09:32] <Madpilot> Al2O3, it's in Multiverse
[09:32] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Al2O3 about multiverse
[09:32] <Rede> yeah but it doesn't start when i boot, and it doesn't respond to "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start" as it should
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> Rede: how do you know it hasn't started when you boot?
[09:32] <Rede> the server functions properly once started, im having problems with starting it
[09:33] <Gorlist> can it mount B5T images?
[09:33] <compengi> where can i find driver for canon i350 printer and if it's connected to another pc on a network and it's shared do i need a driver?
[09:33] <Gorlist> B5I
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> Rede: what output do you expect?
[09:33] <Rede> i type my ip into the browser and there is the "problem loading page" error mozilla returns when the connection is refused. once i type "sudo apache2" it displays the web page
[09:34] <Duff> Alright, I have CDBurnerXP Pro 3 open, and it's giving me these options "Juliet" "ISO Level 1" and "ISO Level 2" Which do I pick?
[09:34] <Rede> something indicating that the server has been started or even a response from the server before i have to type "sudo apache2"
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> Rede: do this 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop' then 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start' -- then type http://localhost/ in your browser.
[09:34] <Gorlist> ok right what does /mnt/blah mean :)
[09:34] <Gorlist> is that the path to the image
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> Gorlist: that's the path where you want it mounted to.
[09:35] <Rede> result is: Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost.
[09:35] <snoops> fyrestrtr his problem is apache2 does not start on boot, he has to manually start it
[09:35] <Gorlist> i don't know where I want it mount?
[09:35] <KenSentMe> compengi: When you check this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters that most Canon printers run when you install the driver for a printer that resembles your model. If you get your printer working, maybe you can add a line on that wiki page on how you've got it to run and how it works.
[09:35] <Gorlist> just want it mounted like a cd?
[09:36] <Rede> then i type "sudo apache2" and refresh and am shown the directory listing i expect to see
[09:36] <garryF> JUliate iso level onw was my hcoice.
[09:36] <Duff> Alright, I have CDBurnerXP Pro 3 open, and it's giving me these options "Juliet" "ISO Level 1" and "ISO Level 2" Which do I pick?
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> Gorlist: mkdir ~/image-mount-point && sudo mount -o loop somefile.iso /home/yourusername/image-mount-point
[09:36] <Duff> Alright.
[09:36] <Duff> Thanks.
[09:36] <Duff> Wait.
[09:36] <Duff> Which one?
[09:36] <garryF> level 1
[09:36] <Duff> Juliet or ISO Level 1?
[09:36] <Gorlist> right i understand, thanks!
[09:36] <Madpilot> !enter
[09:36] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:36] <Duff> Alright, let me try it. Also, there are a whole bunch of files and folders. Do I just add them all to the CD?
[09:37] <Rede> the "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop" does work. it also displays [OK]  upon working
[09:37] <garryF> oh I'm not so sure now.
[09:37] <garryF> I belive its Joliet
[09:37] <Flannel> Rede: you can also do both at the same time (stop, start) by sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[09:37] <Rede> yeah, but that stops the server and doesn't restart it
[09:38] <garryF> If you are burning an iso you should not have folders to add to the cd
[09:38] <KenSentMe> Duff: Then you've got the wrong option i think. Did you do as said in the wiki. Go to the File menu, choose Write Disk from iso file?
[09:38] <Duff> WTF is File menu? Where is that?
[09:39] <KenSentMe> Duff: does it anywhere say image or something?
[09:39] <Rede> actually i take that back, it either properly restarts the server or it has no effect at all. there is no output
[09:39] <Duff> In this burning program, I chose the option to where I can burn ISO images.
[09:40] <KenSentMe> Duff: ok, that should be good
[09:40] <Gog123> grrrr
[09:40] <Duff> I downloaded the .iso from ubuntu and when I opened it, it had all of these folders.
[09:40] <Gog123> microsoft = evil
[09:40] <Gog123> they updated the msi.dll which broke google browser sync
[09:40] <Gog123> intentionally too
[09:40] <Duff> Do I just stick all of those folders on the disc?
[09:40] <KenSentMe> Duff: in the program you should now be able to select the downloaded iso file
[09:40] <KenSentMe> Duff: don't open the file in Windows
[09:40] <Flannel> Rede: do: ps aux | grep apache2  is anything there? (except your grep)
[09:40] <Duff> Fuck. I already opened it.
[09:40] <Duff> Do I have to re-download it?
[09:40] <Gog123> i need some help in modifying ubuntu
[09:40] <Lynoure> Gog123: hmm, if you have some evidence of the intentionality, Slashdor or some other site might be interested (if it is not already there)
[09:41] <Gog123> i used easyubuntu but some codecs dont work
[09:41] <Gog123> lynoure:  Its ok, microsoft was sued
[09:41] <Gog123> im going to contact the attorneys
[09:41] <garryF> Oh you've mounted the iso, Those folders are what is in the iso already. Don't worry that you opened, or mounted it, just choose burn iso to cd.
[09:41] <Rede> no only my grep
[09:41] <KenSentMe> Duff: no, it's saved somewhere on your harddisk, go to that location with your burning program and select the iso file
[09:41] <Gog123> lynoure:  Its part of the windows update that someone sued over
[09:41] <Gog123> lynoure:  Works fine with linux :)
[09:41] <Duff> I have no idea where it is saved though.
[09:41] <Luke> how can I clean out unused deps?
[09:42] <Lynoure> Gog123: I know it works fine with linux.
[09:42] <Flannel> Rede: try the start one then.  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start then do the grep again
[09:42] <Gog123> lynoure:  I would use linux all the time but there are some glitches still
[09:42] <garryF> Yeah, I usually just double click on the iso. Do a windows search for *.iso
[09:42] <KenSentMe> Duff: maybe in your 'My Documents' folder
[09:42] <Rede> just did, only the grep listed.
[09:42] <Gog123> mostly gtk bugs which im sure will be corrected in edgy eft
[09:42] <Remy> hi guys, anyone know how to setup an email with multiple users in ubuntu ?
[09:42] <Lynoure> Gog123: Also in MS Windows. Is there some software type that you miss from MS Win?
[09:43] <Duff> Alright, I'll try the search. @KEN: I download it with firefox and just chose the "Open with:" option.
[09:43] <Remy> whether evolution mail can do it, or other prog is required...
[09:43] <mada> well i realized i didn't have shit to do tonight, so i thought i would drop in
[09:43] <Gog123> lynoure not really......... i was upset that google earth didnt work
[09:43] <Gog123> but they came out with a linux version :)
[09:43] <Rede> if i type "sudo apache2" it does show the running process
[09:43] <Gog123> lynoure:  The bugs ive experienced are mostly gtk related and evolution related
[09:44] <Gog123> the gtk bugs are known, should be fixed by edgy eft
[09:44] <Gog123> evolution should be fixed by then too in the next update
[09:44] <Flannel> Rede: no idea, only thing I can think of is that youve got some bad configuration somewhere.  Might try asking in #apache they should be able to help you more
[09:44] <Gog123> lynoure:  the thing is some windows media files wont work
[09:44] <Healot> I am still using Windows, MacOSX.. Linux is currently running on another machine too
[09:44] <Gog123> even after installing easyubuntu
[09:45] <Rede> ahhh ok i thought here would be the place to try since i got it from the ubuntu apt repos
[09:45] <compengi> do i need a driver for a printer located on a network throught a pc running on windows?
[09:45] <Gog123> looks like linux will be the new standard for os tho
[09:45] <nashy> Any hints on first boot of Ubuntu, I'm installing it now :-)
[09:45] <KenSentMe> Does anyone know a nice gui password generator?
[09:45] <Paladine> compengi, samba
[09:45] <Lynoure> Gog123: That'll prolly be a neveranding race. When they get supported, MS will probably sprout a new format.
[09:45] <Gog123> windows employees are all moving to google at a fast clip
[09:45] <garryF> Pray
[09:45] <compengi> Paladine, what?
[09:45] <Gog123> another 2 more employees just this week :)
[09:45] <snoops> KenSentMe passwords are supposed to be things you can remember :)
[09:46] <Paladine> samba is for file and print sharing
[09:46] <Healot> nashy: after successful installation, you can just enter the desktop :)
[09:46] <Paladine> between linux and windows
[09:46] <Rede> nashy: if you don't know about it already, use automatix once you're done installing.
[09:46] <Gog123> lynoure:  Is easyubuntu the only program to install the codecs?
[09:46] <Flannel> nashy, don't use automatix.
[09:46] <Gog123> cause it doesnt work for all files
[09:46] <Rede> haha
[09:46] <nashy> I know nothing about Linux OS' this is the first one I want to use and hopefully convert from Windows
[09:46] <KenSentMe> snoops: yeah, but they're not supposed to be obvious like my birthdate
[09:46] <compengi> Paladine, where should i install it?
[09:47] <Gorlist> when I try to mount, comes up with ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy
[09:47] <Gorlist> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[09:47] <Healot> nashy: learn slowly, but be eager at the same time
[09:47] <Paladine> you install samba on linux
[09:47] <garryF> Automatix is the alternative to easyubuntu, which seems to be screwed up at now. I got lucky and used it when easyubuntu was worth the bits it was written on.
[09:47] <Paladine> and you make sure File and Print Sharing is installed in windows (it normally is by default)
[09:47] <Lynoure> Gog123: not only. But not that bad. I think automatix also does but I have heard mixed things about it
[09:47] <Gog123> automatix changes the source list
[09:47] <Gog123> i was told not to use automatix
[09:47] <punkmexic> does anyone knows if amsn or gaim support audio conversations for msn?
[09:47] <Gog123> cause  it modifies stuff
[09:47] <garryF> Wow!
[09:47] <Lynoure> Gog123: indeed.
[09:47] <snoops> KenSentMe yep.. think of some word, add a few numbers and a few extra characters and there you go
[09:47] <Gog123> lynoure correct?
[09:48] <garryF> !win32codecs
[09:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about win32codecs
[09:48] <garryF> !restrictedformats
[09:48] <Gog123> lynoure:  Turns out easyubuntu has been revised a little
[09:48] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:48] <Paladine> !samba
[09:48] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:48] <punkmexic> does anyone knows if amsn or gaim support audio conversations for msn?
[09:48] <Lynoure> Gog123: Never tried it. Never needed to. And too tired to look it up.
[09:48] <Paladine> there you go compengi
[09:48] <jenda-lappy> I need a bit of help with OpenOffice. My dad uses .doc exclusively and whenever he saves a document in OO.org, the next time he opens it, all "" are replaced with a japanese character of some sort. When done again, all of these are converted to question marks. Any ideas?
[09:48] <garryF> !info samba
[09:48] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In repository main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 2778 kB, installed size 7080 kB
[09:49] <jenda-lappy> Gog123, yes, easyubuntu is safe to use.
[09:49] <Paladine> jenda, save as is your friend
[09:49] <Paladine> OOo can save as ms office filetypes
[09:49] <Gog123> will the google summer of code ubuntu updates make it to edgy eft?
[09:49] <Gog123> or will that be in the next release
[09:49] <Madpilot> Gog123, maybe - it's hard to say
[09:49] <jenda-lappy> Paladine, that's not the problem. _When_ it's saved as .doc, the encoding gets borked.
[09:49] <Consty> It sucks that OOO Database doesn't support Access databases... not even exporting :/
[09:50] <Gog123> madpilot due to google's funding and profitability, they seem to be a major contributor
[09:50] <Paladine> jenda, I have never had any problems saving as or reading from .docs
[09:50] <Gog123> last time they sped up linux big time
[09:50] <snoops> access databases.. oh gosh!
[09:50] <Duff> Alright guys, I think I may have downloaded something...Wrong-ly. The .iso is supposed to be 600mb right?
[09:50] <jenda-lappy> Paladine, perhaps because you don't use non ASCII characters...
[09:50] <Madpilot> Al2O3, yet another private project that overlaps the existing documentation @ help.ubuntu.com - gah....
[09:50] <Paladine> consty, OOo database supports SQL, Access supports SQL, so yes they are both compatable with each other
[09:51] <Madpilot> Duff, 697Mb, it looks like
[09:51] <Al2O3> Madpilot, I would agree, and a little more streamlined and simple for my mind's eye.
[09:51] <Al2O3> but yes, agreed.  Duplicate.
[09:51] <Duff> Fuck. The .iso I have is only 94mb.
[09:51] <Consty> Paladine: uhhhh. I'm referring to stand alone database file types.  Yes they both support SQL.. but from a design point of view and creating a dbase they dont
[09:51] <jenda-lappy> Duff, language...
[09:51] <garryF> I'm going to try this saving and see what happens.
[09:51] <Lynoure> Paladine: different versions of SQL are often quite incompatible, unfortunately. But nice if at least those too play along.
[09:51] <Madpilot> Duff, language, thanks - and it looks like you got a bad download..
[09:51] <Polkadotshorts> Ubuntu people, I have a question. what is the purpose of the About Me. (System -> Preferences -> About Me)
[09:51] <Gog123> madpilot:  theres now an opensolaris version based on ubuntu....... but is opensolaris activly developed now?
[09:51] <Duff> D:
[09:51] <Madpilot> Gog123, no idea
[09:52] <Gog123> its the same code packages but with a opensolaris kernel
[09:52] <garryF> Hmmm, Duff, Iso's are meant to burn to a CD then you boot the cd to install or run linux as a live cd.
[09:52] <Polkadotshorts> Ubuntu people, I have a question. what is the purpose of the About Me. (System -> Preferences -> About Me)
[09:52] <Gog123> solaris was commercially developed
[09:52] <Consty> Paladine: I can't take a database created with ooo database and open it in access, or vice-versa.
[09:53] <jenda-lappy> Polkadotshorts, some apps can draw that info to include in your documents or fill in web forms for you.
[09:53] <Duff> I know, Garry. I was just wondering why My .iso was only 94 MBs.
[09:53] <Paladine> I would be suprised if OOoBase doesn't support ODBC
[09:53] <Madpilot> Duff, your download must have been stopped somehow
[09:54] <compengi> Paladine, can't i access the windows network without all these skripting!
[09:54] <Paladine> I think you can basically use Base as a front nd for any engine if my understanding is correct
[09:54] <Healot> and opensolaris is community based... I think canonical is developing nexenta based on opensolaris and GNU tools atm
[09:54] <compengi> Paladine, can't i access the windows network without all these scripting!
[09:54] <Gog123> healot cannocal is involved with nexenta?
[09:54] <Duff> Alright, I'm just going to order a CD. Screw it. How long do CDs take? Like...Shipping time?
[09:54] <Paladine> compengi, sure, use a windows netowrk.  but if you wanna share files and printers between linux and windows you need to use samba
[09:54] <garryF> I save a file with a Y in it in word 97 win xp, win 2000 format and have not that issue with y being changed.
[09:55] <KenSentMe> Duff: a few weeks. Where are you from, if i may ask?
[09:55] <Gog123> healot:  Yep its community based, but how is opensolaris vs linux
[09:55] <Lynoure> Duff: Have you ignored all the comments to you about language or are you just pushing the limits for fun?
[09:55] <Madpilot> Duff, takes 6-8 weeks, maybe a bit less if you're lucky
[09:55] <dxdemetriou> I have the samba with the smbpasswd, and I saw that works different with the samba of gnome. What is better to use?
[09:55] <garryF> Bad hair night likely.
[09:55] <Healot> Gog123: both are good, it's really depends on your choice...
[09:56] <Gog123> healot which is better for what?
[09:56] <DarkMageZ> Duff, it took 3 weeks to get mine
[09:56] <Healot> to me, I can go with either...
[09:56] <Duff> 6-8 Weeks? D: Language? All I said was "Screw it."
[09:56] <Healot> atm Linux is more stable and supported commercially
[09:56] <Paladine> Consty, OOo Base supports ODBC so just export to ODBC
[09:56] <Polkadotshorts> Can I ask a question? I sometimes see screen shots of people's Linux desktop, and then I see these widget type things. Can someone please shed some light (so far, my 3 questions I have posted here have been ignored, but try and answer this one).
[09:56] <garryF> Duff, are you on dialup?
[09:56] <blaster999> hi all
[09:56] <Paladine> which access also supports
[09:56] <Lynoure> Duff: And I bet you meant little metal bits with that, sure.
[09:56] <blaster999> is there a way to install Lilo instead of grub on ubuntu?
[09:56] <Duff> No, I'm connected wirelessly to a cable connection.
[09:56] <Madpilot> Polkadotshorts, look up "gdesklets", that seems to be the most common desktop widget set
[09:56] <Consty> Paladine: ODBC is a protocol for communicating with the database.. I'de have to program queries for everything.
[09:57] <Consty> Paladine: Totally unrealistic.
[09:57] <Paladine> still doable though
[09:57] <nashy> 97% Installation - Fingers Crossed everyone
[09:57] <Paladine> you never said you wanted an easy solution
[09:57] <Polkadotshorts> Madpilot: Thanks!
[09:57] <blaster999> because Grub doesn't seem to work on my lappy
[09:57] <Consty> Paladine: If you create something in java.. but you can't do it in OOO itself.
[09:57] <Duff> And can I really not say "Screw it." in here? That's not even bad.
[09:57] <garryF> Wel, you should download the iso to your computer and burn it or are you saying when you only had 67 mb that you don't have room for the iso on your hard drive?
[09:57] <Healot> blaster999: with alternatCD, expert install mode
[09:58] <blaster999> Healot: thanks!
[09:58] <compengi> Paladine, i don't want to share my linux files, i just want to access my windows network and to use the printer on the windows network
[09:58] <Paladine> why do you have to support access anyway? it is pretty much deprecated
[09:58] <meander> ok. heres the thing
[09:58] <Healot> in the boot loader install, choose either lilo or grub
[09:58] <Duff> No, I have room for the full 600mb, I just don't know why it stopped at 94mb.
[09:58] <Paladine> compengi, like I said, you need to use samba
[09:58] <Madpilot> Duff, try downloading it again - the Ubuntu servers are fairly fast
[09:58] <meander> me and some others have been trying to get amarok working on my ubuntu 6.06 system
[09:58] <garryF> Oh, you probably just had some internet issues. It is pretty fast to retry.
[09:59] <meander> folowed probably every guide there is, and nothing came out of it
[09:59] <Duff> It was only downloading at like 26kb/s. Anyone know how to increase my download speeds in FF?
[09:59] <blaster999> meander: worksforme (TM)
[09:59] <yvette> please help, one of my pc can only dislpay 640x480 resolution
[09:59] <compengi> Paladine, it's so complex here in linux in windows it's much simpler, and btw if i used samba do i still need a driver for that printer?
[09:59] <Lynoure> hmm
[09:59] <Lynoure> !language
[09:59] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:59] <joyrom> hello people
[09:59] <Healot> yvette: what's your graphics card?
[10:00] <yvette> its an onboard video
[10:00] <Paladine> compengi, well the other solution would be to get a USB switch and have theprinter plugged into the windows network and the linux machine, then just switch between the two
[10:00] <nashy> Joyrom - Hey
[10:00] <joyrom> hey nashy
[10:00] <garryF> Duff:  Is that slow speed what you got now or way back when you first tried.
[10:00] <Healot> brand perhaps? yvette. if you used windows previously, you can check that out first
[10:00] <Paladine> I got a USB "KVM" device for 17GBP
[10:00] <joyrom> I installed the xubuntu version
[10:01] <joyrom> there is another chan for this?
[10:01] <Duff> Garry, that's what I got when I first tried.
[10:01] <yvette> i have another unit with the same specs but those unit is capable of using 800x600
[10:01] <revilot> anyone have a clue as to how I could get a turtle beach santacruz soundcard to work in dapper?
[10:01] <KenSentMe> In order to be able to help people like Duff burning iso's i've downloaded and installed cdburnerxp with wine. Does anyone know how i could fake or make that program recognize a cd bruner, otherwise i can't use the burn options.
[10:01] <Madpilot> joyrom, there's #xubuntu, but it's often very quiet
[10:01] <garryF> I bet it could be a harbinger of internet issues you had back then. try it now, see if it's faster.
[10:01] <nashy> Help!  I'm at the login screen, but I wasn't asked to provide username details
[10:01] <KenSentMe> !resolution > yvette
[10:01] <Healot> it just start the desktop nashy?
[10:02] <KenSentMe> yvette: check what ubotu tells you
[10:02] <nashy> Nope, booted straight to login screen
[10:02] <goubuntu> !offtopic
[10:02] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:02] <Madpilot> nashy, new install or LiveCD?
[10:02] <joyrom> ok Madpilot can I reamin here?
[10:02] <nashy> madpilt - New install
[10:02] <Madpilot> joyrom, sure, and if you can't get an answer in #xubuntu, ask here
[10:02] <yvette> got it thanks
[10:02] <joyrom> ok
[10:03] <garryF> There is a wine channel, I've heard they are pretty helpful there. Ibet you could get a faster answer there on wine and that cd burner issue.
[10:03] <nashy> So how do I login?
[10:03] <joyrom> anyone can tell me if the difference is only the X system?
[10:03] <Madpilot> nashy, at some point during the install, you should have been asked for username, password & computer name
[10:03] <jleibold> tvtime is extremly slow - xawtv runs without problems - any idea?
[10:04] <Flannel> joyrom: xubuntu has xfce insead of gnome.  A few program differences as well.
[10:04] <nashy> it asked for a password and computer name
[10:04] <nashy> no username though
[10:04] <Healot> eh? X chooser login?
[10:04] <blaster999> Healot: How exactly does one enter an expert mode using 6.06 alternate?
[10:04] <Madpilot> nashy, you sure?
[10:04] <garryF> joyrom: Well, I think kde in Kbuntu uses a different package manager.
[10:04] <nashy> very, I went through that stage twice as my first attempt at install didn't work
[10:04] <Healot> blaster999: follow the screen instruction, choose text mode
[10:04] <garryF> I got both kde and gnome on this system
[10:05] <Madpilot> nashy, odd - using the LiveCD's installer?
[10:05] <Healot> next type expert and press Enter
[10:05] <nashy> umm.. I downloaded the alternate cd
[10:05] <joyrom> can I install anyway another X system
[10:05] <garryF> That's the best choise to get nashy
[10:05] <joyrom> in every distro
[10:05] <revilot> anyone have a clue as to how I could get a turtle beach santacruz soundcard to work in dapper?
[10:05] <Madpilot> joyrom, sure
[10:05] <blaster999> Healot: thanks!
[10:05] <Madpilot> nashy, ah - I'm not sure how the Alternate CD's installer works, haven't used Dapper'
[10:06] <nashy> if it did ask me for a username I would have used nashy for sure.  Is there anyway to login as root to add a user?
[10:06] <Healot> garryF: yup you can manually isntall XFree or other X server...
[10:06] <Madpilot> s - but the Breezy install certainly asked for a pw
[10:06] <Madpilot> nashy, you can use the recovery console, which has root access
[10:06] <Healot> a bit hard i think. but possible, garryF
[10:06] <joyrom> ok I have to learn about Linux too
[10:06] <Duff> The download started at like 600kb/s and steadily went down to 208kb/s. I'm just going to have to install it in the morning.
[10:06] <garryF> revilot: I remembr that card. Tried all kinds of things tryign to get the card from santa cruz to work.
[10:06] <Subhuman> Madpilot, the alternative installer CD is just the text based installer like breezy had
[10:06] <Madpilot> Subhuman, yeah, thought so
[10:07] <Duff> Also, once I stick the CD with the .iso on it, and boot it up, is it going to auto partition it or what?
[10:07] <garryF> Wasn't my card. Someone here had it.
[10:07] <garryF> It can auto partition
[10:07] <revilot> garryF: thats not good news
[10:07] <joyrom> thank you at all
[10:07] <joyrom> bye
[10:07] <nashy> Duff - It will give you partition options
[10:07] <Madpilot> Duff, there are options for partitioning during the install, but the LiveCD won't touch your harddrives at first
[10:07] <KenSentMe> Duff: you have several options, but you need a spare partition to put ubuntu on
[10:07] <twager> Any help with s/b live ens1370 ??
[10:07] <garryF> revilot Yeah. I wish I knw what his fix was. It was several weeks ago.
[10:07] <Duff> Alright, I'm just asking. Also, Do I choose "Boot from CD" or do I just open the CD in windows?
[10:08] <revilot> garryF: did he get it working
[10:08] <KenSentMe> Duff: boot from the cd
[10:08] <Madpilot> Duff, start your machine w/ the CD in your drive
[10:08] <jleibold> can no one help me with tvtime?
[10:08] <Duff> My machine isn't set to boot from it's drives though.
[10:08] <nashy> Ok - I'm in recovery console, what do I do from here, I have no idea :-s
[10:08] <garryF> revilot Seems he did. I can't recall what he did.
[10:08] <Duff> At least I don't think it isn't.
[10:08] <revilot> ok thanks m8
[10:09] <KenSentMe> jleibold: what you could try is to run tvtime from the terminal and see if it's produces any errors
[10:09] <twager> Any help with s/b live ens1370 ??
[10:09] <garryF> Duff: Ye need to set it to boot from the cd rom if there is one in drve.
[10:09] <Madpilot> Duff, you'll need to tweak your BIOS to allow booting from CDROM before HDD
[10:10] <garryF> !sound
[10:10] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[10:10] <Duff> Umm...So when I start my computer I press...Which one of the F_ Buttons?
[10:10] <Paladine> F8
[10:10] <nashy> F8 usually
[10:10] <nashy> or DEL
[10:10] <Paladine> DEL to enter the BIOS
[10:10] <KenSentMe> or F2
[10:10] <garryF> Mine was f2
[10:10] <Paladine> F8 for boot options
[10:10] <Paladine> weird
[10:10] <dxdemetriou> What must I have to works the samba of gnome, and what I must delete for the smbpasswd I worked before?
[10:10] <Duff> xD I'll just press F8 and hope everything works.
[10:11] <jleibold> KenSentMe: no errors when running from terminal - tvtime runs but only get one frame every ten seconds
[10:11] <nashy> how do I add a user via recovery console?
[10:11] <Subhuman> mine was f8 or f12 on my laptop
[10:11] <Paladine> I have seen F8 and occassionaly F5, never seen F2
[10:11] <twager> ubotu:This I have done...Sound was perfect in ubunto and mepis before I tried out Suse then sound stopped working
[10:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu:This I have done...Sound was perfect in ubunto and mepis before I tried out Suse then sound stopped working
[10:11] <garryF> It should tell you which to press to get into cmos
[10:11] <twager> in both ubuntu and mepis
[10:11] <KenSentMe> jleibold: i don't know the program that good, so i can't help you. Running in terminal mostly tells you when there are problems
[10:11] <garryF> I've seen some that were ctrl-alt-s
[10:12] <jleibold> KenSentMe: I wonder why msp3400 produces heavy cpu load when running tvtime
[10:12] <Duff> Well, on my other computer it's like...Ctrl+D or something.
[10:12] <Paladine> garry, muist be a furranor thing ;p
[10:12] <nashy> how do I add a user via recovery console? Anyone?
[10:12] <garryF> A dinobox
[10:12] <Subhuman> nashy, "adduser username"
[10:13] <Duff> Thanks again for all the help guys. I'm done with questions for the night. I'm sure I'll be back here tomorrow though, when I install it.
[10:13] <Madpilot> nashy, as Subhuman said, then "addgroup username admin" - same username as the one you just created, so you've got sudo privs
[10:14] <KenSentMe> jleibold: have you searched the ubuntuforums.org on your problem, maybe there is someone who had the same
[10:14] <Madpilot> nashy, then "shutdown -r now" to restart your computer
[10:14] <nashy> Madpilot / Subhuman:  The user 'nashy' does not exist
[10:14] <Paladine> mad - "reboot" works too :)
[10:14] <jleibold> KenSentMe: searched a lot of forums - will have a look there - thank you
[10:14] <Madpilot> nashy, "adduser nashy" doesn't work?
[10:14] <Al2O3> fyrestrtr, question now.  I have 4 accounts on this computer, and the uid=1000 solution works for me, user 1000 UID, but not obviously for others, how to solve this was in theory to use mask=666 where all parties (users) would mount and have xw prives, but we know that didn't work in /etc/fstab.  The uid=1000 did for me as I stated, but now I want the other users to be able to login, and have mount/read on the CD working.  Any oth
[10:14] <Al2O3> er ideas on how to solve this problem?
[10:14] <jenda-lappy> I need a bit of help with OpenOffice. My dad uses .doc exclusively and whenever he saves a document in OO.org, the next time he opens it, all "" are replaced with a japanese character of some sort. When done again, all of these are converted to question marks. When I use the replace tool to fix this manually, save and load, all my "" are replaced by copyright signs... Any ideas?
[10:14] <Subhuman> nashy, type "adduser nashy admin"
[10:14] <Subhuman> and follow the prompts
[10:16] <nashy> sorry.. I read wrong guys.  Try reboot now thanks :-)
[10:16] <Madpilot> Subhuman, that's a simpler method that the one I was suggesting - thanks :)
[10:17] <Paladine> nite peeps
[10:17] <garryF> Here is what I put in my /etc/fstab to get access to a particular drive accross users ... /dev/sda1 /mnt/Sata1 ntfs uid=1000,umask=000,ro 0 0
[10:18] <garryF> Night Paladine
[10:18] <nashy> ohh guys.  This is a nice looking OS you got here
[10:18] <garryF> :)
[10:18] <Healot> nashy: up and running already?
[10:19] <nashy> Yeah.  No internet though.  Whats the process to fix that?
[10:19] <nashy> Network works, I can see my router, just no connection :-S
[10:19] <garryF> Is it wireless?
[10:20] <nashy> na, blue cables everywhere :-p
[10:20] <Madpilot> nashy, wired net usually just works - odd that it didn't
[10:21] <girish> hi all ....can i copy debian packages available with magazine cd's like that of LFY to the apt/cache?
[10:21] <Madpilot> do you have more than one network port on your box, nashy?
[10:21] <Healot> blue? by any chances th cables is written "cat 5"?
[10:21] <nashy> I'm running cat 5 from computer (only one port) to a switch, then to a router
[10:21] <garryF> system/administration/network nashy. It will ask for a password, that will be the password for the first account you created.
[10:21] <nashy> it connects to my router as I can view the config of it
[10:22] <KenSentMe> girish: you could copy them to your ubuntu and install them with 'sudo dpkg -i <package>.deb'
[10:22] <garryF> !network
[10:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about network
[10:22] <Madpilot> nashy, hmm, if it's connecting to your router, it should get the rest of the way out to the net...
[10:22] <nashy> Should yeah, but firefox does nothing
[10:23] <Madpilot> odd
[10:23] <garryF> See under system/administration/networking maybe that help.
[10:24] <girish> kensentme: hiii if i backup the already downloaded packages to my harddisk and upgrade to ubuntu 6 then will i be able to install the same packages without having to download them
[10:24] <nashy> Add/Remove thing is connected, it just updated :-s
[10:24] <garryF> There are also network tools.
[10:24] <Madpilot> girish, are they Ubuntu packages or Debian ones? There are differences
[10:24] <girish> they r ubuntu packages
[10:24] <KenSentMe> girish: if you are talking about ubuntu packages, then it's best to download new ones, because the versions are upgraded
[10:24] <girish> i downloaded with synaptic
[10:25] <girish> ohh but i juz downloaded them
[10:25] <Madpilot> nashy, open a terminal (Applications->Accessories->Terminal) and type "ping -c 5 google.com" - see what that does
[10:25] <girish> kensent me:ohh but i juz downloaded them
[10:25] <nashy> Madpilot: ping:bad number of packets to transmit
[10:26] <KenSentMe> girish: when you are upgrading ubuntu it means that you install newer versions of the software, so the old versions are mostly not used anymore
[10:26] <nashy> Madpilot: I got it to ping, and its fine with 10 packets
[10:27] <Madpilot> nashy, then Firefox is being stupid for some reason :|
[10:27] <nashy> hmm.. I'll have to have a look at the settings :-S
[10:27] <girish> kensentme:some of the IDE's are not in the ubuntu cd
[10:27] <girish> like eclipse
[10:28] <Madpilot> girish, eclipse is available via Ubuntu's online repos - it's in Universe
[10:28] <KenSentMe> girish: then mostly you can download them with the package manager synaptic, but it probably will be newer versions
[10:28] <Fitzz> !aiglx
[10:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about aiglx
[10:29] <SpeesKeek> hi there. Im trying to install. but it takes ages before the cd boots (and other distro's too) uncompressing linux takes about 20-25minutes
[10:29] <girish> ohh...i know madpilot but the thing is that i want to avoid a redownload coz i have the packages in my cache right now
[10:30] <nbjayme> okay.... we reinstalled ubuntu and everything works fine....
[10:30] <nbjayme> clear
[10:31] <garryF> Firefox under edit/preferences/general has a connection config button. Might try looking at that.
[10:31] <garryF> !info aiglx
[10:31] <ubotu> Package aiglx does not exist in dapper
[10:31] <girish> bye guys..
[10:32] <Consty> anyone have problems with their sound sounding all crackly with programs like zsnes?
[10:32] <garryF> Gnight.
[10:33] <garryF> Hmm, I got cracklines once after changing some settings by using alsamixer. I fixed it by experimenting with alsamixer command in terminal mode
[10:34] <spades> there is an alsamixergui fyi
[10:34] <garryF> er cracky sound.
[10:34] <nashy> I have a USB audio interface device, are there any drivers for it?
[10:34] <garryF> nice, thanks
[10:34] <garryF> !usbsound
[10:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about usbsound
[10:34] <garryF> !usb
[10:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about usb
[10:34] <nashy> garryF: What?
[10:34] <Healot> !hardware
[10:34] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:34] <garryF> sound blaser live?
[10:35] <Consty> nah
[10:35] <nashy> no.  Its a USB sterio
[10:35] <Consty> its onboard intel something.. forget the # but its detected by alsa
[10:35] <Consty> I mean I can play dvd's and such just fine
[10:35] <AnAnt> is there software in Ubuntu that can be used to edit media files ?
[10:35] <Consty> but zsnes, mame, and other apps sound bad.
[10:35] <soundray> nashy: ubuntu should load the driver for it automatically.
[10:36] <garryF> Hmm, The ! before a word is an attempt to get the bot to show you useful info on getting your sound working.
[10:36] <nashy> soundsray: Its not there / working
[10:36] <garryF> !sound
[10:36] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[10:36] <soundray> nashy: do you get any errors when you plug it in?
[10:37] <garryF> Firefox still giving you fits getting past router?
[10:37] <garryF> er that was for nashy
[10:37] <nashy> I haven't unplugged it.  I also don't have Sys - > Pref -> Multimedia
[10:37] <stefg> I'm a bit confused using mount with the '--bind' or '--rbind' switches. I'm trying to mount only a dir called /boot on hda1 (vfat for a reason) to the /boot mountpoint on hda5 (which is my ubuntu root). Can anyone tell me what to enter to the otpions colum in fstab to accomplish this?
[10:37] <nashy> yeah, firefox still a no go
[10:38] <soundray> nashy: unplug it, run 'tail -f /var/log/messages', then plug it in and see if any errors are reported.
[10:38] <garryF> I guess I"ve been lucky. It detected all stuff except sound which was easy to figure out how to fix. I wish I knew how to fix firefox.
[10:39] <soundray> nashy: sorry, tail -f /var/log/syslog
[10:39] <nashy> It says its there, and tells me the device name, and says open prefs
[10:39] <nashy> but its not in the list to say I can select it
[10:39] <soundray> nashy: have you restarted gnome since you connected it?
[10:39] <nashy> no
[10:40] <nashy> I was gunna try and get my internet working first
[10:40] <soundray> nashy: better to solve one problem at a time.
[10:40] <cheeseman557> hey im installing ubuntu and i keep getting this error repeatedly: buffer i/o error on device sr0, logical block 25553
[10:40] <garryF> nashy can ping, but his firefox just sits there and does nothing.
[10:40] <dabaR> garryF: did he clear the cache?
[10:41] <garryF> dabaR DUnno
[10:42] <nashy> soundray:  I'll play with Internet first, I need that more than sound, if all else fails with sound I can use my laptop
[10:42] <nashy> Firefox still not working :-(
[10:42] <soundray> cheeseman557: could be a faulty CD or CD drive.
[10:43] <cheeseman557> soundray: but my laptop is practially brand new
[10:43] <cheeseman557> do you tihnk i shuld burn a new cd?\
[10:43] <dabaR> nashy: do you have a firewall installed that you know of? firestarter?
[10:43] <soundray> nashy: what kind of firewall?
[10:43] <garryF> Maybe brand new faulty device
[10:43] <cheeseman557> yea but i installed windows with it and windows is fine
[10:43] <nashy> dabaR / soundray: This is a clean install, I wouldn't have a clue, I've never used Ubuntu in my life
[10:43] <soundray> cheeseman557: perhaps check the CD first. There is a boot option.
[10:44] <cheeseman557> soundray, yea thats what i did and thats when im getting this error
[10:44] <soundray> nashy: I mean on your network. Is there a router/firewall?
[10:44] <cheeseman557> does that mean my cd is messed up?
[10:44] <dabaR> nashy: and you tried pinging you say? "ping google.com" in a terminal gets replies?
[10:44] <soundray> cheeseman557: probably. Try burning a new one. Some people have solved problems like that by selecting a lower burning speed.
[10:44] <nashy> soundray:  No firewall in use
[10:45] <garryF> If I recall, nashy used the recocery mode to add a new user, unless I got him mixed up with another. Perhaps the new user has no internet and sound priveleges?
[10:45] <nashy> dabar: Yeah, ping is fine
[10:45] <nashy> garryF:  Correct, I needed to add a user
[10:45] <cheeseman557> soundray, ok thanks.. i just reformmated my comp thinking it was a problem with the hard drive >_<
[10:45] <garryF> ARgh, I hate my spelling
[10:45] <Madpilot> nashy, open a term, type "groups"
[10:45] <nashy> Madpilot: nashy admin
[10:45] <Madpilot> ouch
[10:46] <garryF> Yes! Mad's good. I hope to learn to fix this too by watching.
[10:46] <nashy> what have I done/not done?
[10:46] <Madpilot> it should look something like "brian adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin" - that's what I get from 'groups'
[10:46] <nashy> eek.  How would one go about fixing that?
[10:46] <dabaR> I have an issue with printing to a HP PSC 1215 on a win XP computer. I get to add the printer through the gnome-cups-add dialog, and it gets detected on the network, after entering the proper passwords for connecting to that PC. I then get to choose the printer driver, and mine is not listed. There is psc 1210, and 1200, so I tried choosing either, and the printer gets added, and says ready when the other PC and printer are on. However,
[10:47] <garryF> Is it possible nashy is in livecd mode?
[10:47] <dabaR> Is "machine" the last word there?
[10:47] <Madpilot> dabaR, "on. However"
[10:47] <nashy> garryF: I just did a fresh install.  I chose OEM install
[10:47] <soundray> nashy: go to System-Admin-Users and Groups. Give your user all rights.
[10:47] <Madpilot> nashy, ah - OEM install is odd. No wonder you're having issues
[10:48] <garryF> Yeah, oem sounds like a solaris thing.
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> soundray: what kind of advice is that?!
[10:48] <garryF> Nextenta, an dapper with a solaris core backend.
[10:48] <dabaR> on. However, I send the printer a job, which gets added to the printer q for a moment, then the printer status goes to ready again, but nothing prints on the machine.
[10:48] <soundray> fyrestrtr: what do you mean?
[10:49] <nashy> should I reinstall?  Its no hassle if thats the best thing to do
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> soundray: no reason for a user to be part of all groups in the system. That's just asking for trouble.
[10:49] <garryF> Likely, using default install
[10:49] <soundray> nashy: is it correct what garryF said, that you added a new user in recovery mode?
[10:49] <nashy> soundray: yes
[10:49] <Madpilot> nashy, you might be better off reinstalling, using the default install mode
[10:50] <garryF> I agree
[10:50] <soundray> nashy: I wouldn't waste time reinstalling.
[10:50] <dabaR> :-/
[10:50] <dxdemetriou> I have stay on ext3 for the reason that I never had problem with power lost. Is there another like this file system?
[10:50] <nashy> So instead of selecting OEM install, I select Text Install?    soundray: what do you recommend, I mean, if its easier to re-install its no hassle at all
[10:50] <garryF> there is one person who worked me through recreating the groups and all.
[10:50] <soundray> nashy: if you are going to login with that username you added, all you need to do is give that user all system privileges, including connecting to the internet.
[10:50] <cheeseman557> whats the minimum size for the swap file?
[10:50] <Flannel> nashy: you want to end up with a normal desktop?
[10:50] <Flannel> cheeseman557: 0
[10:51] <nashy> Flannel:  Well, I want normal yeah :-p
[10:51] <cheeseman557> thanks
[10:51] <Flannel> nashy: then, put in the alternate CD, and just hit enter.  or, the default thing.
[10:51] <Flannel> nashy: text install soudns about right.  not server, not OEM.
[10:51] <Madpilot> nashy, go System->Admin->Users & Groups, select your user, hit Properties, then go to the User Privs tab - select stuff there
[10:52] <garryF> Text install gives you more flexability too. Might try what Madpilot says first.
[10:53] <nashy> I just added all privs
[10:53] <nashy> no change
[10:53] <Madpilot> nashy, you might have to log out & log in again - I'm not sure
[10:53] <soundray> nashy: you need to log out and in again to activate the changes.
[10:53] <garryF> Might have to reboot.
[10:54] <garryF> The user you are logged in as should be user id 1000
[10:54] <SpeesKeek> install takes ages, whats the prob? (eg uncompressing linux takes about 20-25minutes)
[10:54] <jenda-lappy> I need a user-level (not sudo) command to restart the ethernet connection. Can anyone hint me in?
[10:54] <garryF> Hmm, last time I saw a slow install, it was a dying hard drive or slow computer
[10:54] <Ng> jenda-lappy: I don't believe there is such a thing
[10:54] <soundray> SpeesKeek: underclocked 386 processor?
[10:55] <SpeesKeek> garryF .. i tried a 666mhz, 800mhz and a 1ghz.. all the same
[10:55] <SpeesKeek> soundray .. just a std PIII
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> jenda-lappy: unplug the cable
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> jenda-lappy: plug it back in.
[10:55] <SpeesKeek> garryF .. it is the install cd that takes ages to show me the install...
[10:55] <nashy> Logged out and in, terminal shows all privs, still no firefox
[10:55] <jenda-lappy> Ng, really? Strange... the thing is that Ubuntu doesn't detect the ethernet wire being plugged and unplugged - so I need to remind it each time, and I don't want to make dad type his pwd each time.
[10:56] <Gog123> nexenta which is based on ubuntu with opensolaris looks nice
[10:56] <garryF> SpeesKeek: How much memory?
[10:56] <SpeesKeek> 256
[10:56] <soundray> nashy: maybe you do want to reinstall
[10:56] <Gog123> the only thing is the kernel.....
[10:56] <jenda-lappy> fyrestrtr, that exactly is what doesn't work...
[10:56] <Gog123> in a comparison test, is linux or opensolaris better?
[10:56] <nashy> soundray:  Will do :-)
[10:56] <SpeesKeek> for a text based thing 256 seems enough to me :)
[10:56] <fyrestrtr> jenda-lappy: hrmm, that's strange.
[10:56] <garryF> Opensolaris seems slow in booting
[10:56] <soundray> SpeesKeek: are you installing from CD?
[10:56] <SpeesKeek> its an ubunu :p
[10:56] <SpeesKeek> jup soundray
[10:56] <fyrestrtr> Gog123: they are two different things, can't really compare one to the other.
[10:57] <SpeesKeek> tied the server cd  and the alternate
[10:57] <Gog123> fyrestrtr:  Which is better for desktop pc?
[10:57] <SpeesKeek> the ubunbtu 6 version
[10:57] <Gog123> opensolaris or linux
[10:57] <SpeesKeek> and a redhat 7.1
[10:57] <SpeesKeek> both afwull slow
[10:57] <soundray> Gog123: try asking this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:57] <Gog123> nexenta is essentially the same thing as ubuntu but with an opensolaris core
[10:57] <garryF> Hmmm, Not sure, but 256 memory seems low for a gui
[10:57] <nashy> I'l talk to you guys soon, I'm reinstalling now :-)
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> Gog123: ubuntu
[10:57] <debarshi> ubuntu dapper (ie 6.06) is fine
[10:57] <SpeesKeek> garryF .. i dont want gui
[10:58] <garryF> SpeesKeek Oh
[10:58] <SpeesKeek> just a text based router, proxy thing
[10:58] <debarshi> But my choice is Fedora
[10:58] <SpeesKeek> debarshi .. a red hat 7.1 isnt working well either
[10:58] <SpeesKeek> and 7.1 is quite old.. a 150mhz pc ran that
[10:59] <debarshi> what is the machine you have?
[10:59] <SpeesKeek> thu there i a prob with HW i guess of a boot option
[10:59] <SpeesKeek> debarshia pIII 800mhz 256mb ram, dell optiplex thing
[10:59] <soundray> SpeesKeek: strange, it should run well. Have you tried a floppy distribution -- tomsrtbt?
[11:00] <garryF> And he wants a command line install no gui on his debarshia p111
[11:00] <garryF> er command line os
[11:00] <debarshi> things like FC2 should work fine
[11:01] <cheeseman557> holy moly i just reformmated my hd because i thought the hd was messed up but it was the cd!
[11:01] <debarshi> I mean I have seen such machines work.
[11:01] <SpeesKeek> the install cd boots... but its taking 30minutes to come to recognizing the ide ports and stuff like that (things that taek normally spoken 3-4 secs)
[11:01] <SpeesKeek> debarshi .. ive got a much older red hat version than your fedora core thing an it isnt working either...
[11:01] <garryF> Ouch cheeseman557
[11:01] <soundray> SpeesKeek: perhaps you should get one of those tiny routers that run OpenWRT. Your investment will be returned in electricity saved within a couple of years.
[11:02] <cheeseman557> well i can finally sleep knowing it wasnt my brand new hd lol
[11:02] <garryF> Yeah.
[11:02] <panthere_noire> ouf
[11:02] <SpeesKeek> soundray ..  i dont want that.. i already HAVE those.. i need a linux server
[11:02] <soundray> cheeseman557: sr0 usually refers to optical drives.
[11:02] <garryF> On that note, its good night time for me.
[11:03] <cheeseman557> ok thanks
[11:03] <style> nie ein stream file ber smb share aufmachen
[11:03] <cheeseman557> this was a hard learnt lesson for a linux noob like me lol
[11:03] <style> ubuntu hngt sich auf :D
[11:03] <soundray> style: falscher channel
[11:03] <style> hmm
[11:03] <style> hast recht
[11:03] <style> tach
[11:03] <soundray> !de
[11:03] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:04] <style> eigentlich ist der gar nicht mal so schlecht der channel
[11:04] <KenSentMe> style: please talk english or leave the channel
[11:04] <style> ok
[11:04] <debarshi> SpeesKeek: are you trying to make it a server?
[11:05] <style> i have a little problem, the aiglx config tool in the taskbar is not here any more (my fault). now i cant find it anymore
[11:05] <soundray> SpeesKeek: is there something wrong in the BIOS setup perhaps? Strange memory timings?
[11:06] <debarshi> SpeesKeek, There is a guy in #fedora who is running FC5 on a PIII 500MHz.
[11:06] <SpeesKeek> debarshi yep
[11:07] <SpeesKeek> soundray .. memory tinings cant be editited in a dell bios
[11:07] <nashy> debarshi: I've fun FC 3 on a P3 501
[11:07] <SpeesKeek> i ll try a win XP install to see if there are strange things there
[11:08] <p0mtop> Hi guys, I'm having an issue with a Radeon x1600 and Dapper 6.06.
[11:08] <debarshi> nashy, thats what... I think SpeesKeek has got a different problem.
[11:09] <p0mtop> It's booting, but when it gets to GDM, it just drops to a completely blank screen.
[11:09] <p0mtop> This is using fglrx, not the default drivers that come on install. Anyone got any suggestions? :)
[11:10] <SpeesKeek> yeah i dont think it will run slow.. i run gentoo on an pIII 667 .. but the install is slow as a snail :)
[11:10] <SpeesKeek> on this pIII 800 ..
[11:10] <SpeesKeek> so i think there are boot option problems
[11:11] <soundray> p0mtop: can you switch to a text login with Ctrl-Alt-F1?
[11:11] <p0mtop> Nope, not at al.
[11:11] <p0mtop> First thing I tried actually.
[11:11] <p0mtop> Setting the driver back to vesa allows it to boot.
[11:11] <zanatta> hola
[11:11] <p0mtop> Well, to get to GDM would be more accurate.
[11:11] <soundray> p0mtop: amd64 or i386?
[11:11] <p0mtop> amd64.
[11:12] <p0mtop> Haven't attempted using the drivers directly from the ati site as yet, was next on my list after checking in here.
[11:12] <Duff> Question: I'm writing the .iso to a disc, and I set it to 1x and I made sure the disc was set to "Bootable". Am I doing everything right?
[11:12] <watson540> !es
[11:12] <nashy> Duff: You could load up the disc in something like Daemon then just copy on the fly
[11:12] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:13] <p0mtop> Duff, Sounds about right
[11:13] <Duff> Alright, because when I set it to "Bootable" it gave me all these options and I just left them at what they were at.
[11:13] <zanatta> y eso
[11:13] <soundray> p0mtop: have you commented out the int10 line in xorg.conf?
[11:13] <p0mtop> Er, nope.
[11:13] <p0mtop> Had no suggestions to do that.
[11:13] <zanatta> bye
[11:13] <p0mtop> One second, dropping to safe.
[11:14] <watson540> zanatta<-- #ubuntu-es
[11:14] <zanatta> que es linux
[11:14] <zanatta> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[11:14] <Kismet> To let a library be load its enough to set propertly the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable or do I have to run even ldconfig?
[11:14] <watson540> zanatta<-- #ubuntu-es
[11:15] <p0mtop> Right, rebooting with int10 commented out.
[11:15] <soundray> p0mtop: it's enough to do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:15] <p0mtop> Oh, duh
[11:16] <p0mtop> I forgot about that.
[11:16] <soundray> p0mtop: oh sorry, you can't if it's frozen...
[11:16] <p0mtop> Yeah, heh.
[11:16] <p0mtop> But I could've used start instead.
[11:16] <acuster> Hey all, my external usb disk is not being recognized, where do I find info about hot-plugging?
[11:16] <p0mtop> Ok. Screen's still black, flickers every now and then.
[11:17] <soundray> p0mtop: this int10 thing is from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI -- have you been through that page?
[11:17] <p0mtop> Ah, I've been through the top half.
[11:17] <p0mtop> Up until using the binary drivers from ati.
[11:18] <soundray> p0mtop: it's in the Notes section.
[11:18] <p0mtop> Gotcha
[11:18] <p0mtop> Xorg didn't mention that error however.
[11:18] <soundray> acuster: do you see any error messages related to plugging the drive in /var/log/syslog ?
[11:19] <p0mtop> Hrm.
[11:19] <p0mtop> Guessing using the drivers from ati.com wouldn't help.
[11:21] <p0mtop> Only other reference I can find is http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=447635
[11:22] <purple> quiet here
[11:22] <p0mtop> Kinda.
[11:22] <purple> hey
[11:22] <purple> whatsup?
[11:22] <p0mtop> Arguing with an amd64 and a x1600 card, heh.
[11:22] <raffy> hello ppl
[11:23] <soundray> p0mtop: is the ati driver working for you?
[11:23] <p0mtop> It was by default after install, yes.
[11:23] <acuster> soundray, yeah, lots thanks.
[11:23] <andyjeffries> Where can I find out about upcoming package version bumps?  I need a feature in PHP 5.1.3, but Ubuntu is currently on 5.1.2.  Is there an online database of packages, current live version, testing version and progress?
[11:24] <p0mtop> Here we go.
[11:24] <SpeesKeek> andyjeffries .. why dont you get the source frome php.org ?
[11:24] <p0mtop> In the latest gdm error, O'
[11:24] <p0mtop> Er.
[11:24] <p0mtop> Stupid keyboard.
[11:24] <soundray> p0mtop: so you could stick with those, or you could do an i386 install (might be better anyway, unless you want to run numbercrunching apps)
[11:24] <p0mtop> I've got "Fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found.
[11:24] <andyjeffries> SpeesKeek: Purely because I'm new to Ubuntu (previous Red Hat, then Gentoo user) and I'm trying to keep my system clean (only using .debs etc).
[11:25] <soundray> acuster: can you make sense of them? Paste them on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if not.
[11:25] <SpeesKeek> andyjeffries: i never had a ubuntu  system :p
[11:25] <dabaR> andyjeffries: there is a development version of ubuntu. /msg ubotu info php5 edgy
[11:25] <p0mtop> soundray, Nah, not really for numbercrunching. Most I'd be doing is a few python replacement strings etc.
[11:26] <afd_> hi! I've got an nvidia card on dapper and after some recent upgrades X wouldn't work anymore. I'm using nvidia-glx, and the x server error message is about some mismatch between nvidia kernel driver and x module driver. Any fixes or pointers on this issue?
[11:26] <andyjeffries> dabaR: Thanks mate, apparently Edgy is still on 5.1.2 as well though. :-(
[11:26] <p0mtop> Obviously I can keep the partition structure, heh.
[11:26] <p0mtop> I'll try that, thanks soundray :)
[11:26] <soundray> p0mtop: I'd go with i386. It's better anyway if you need Flash or Adobe Reader.
[11:26] <p0mtop> Yeah.
[11:26] <p0mtop> Flash is definitely needed.
[11:27] <dabaR> andyjeffries: nothing wrong with compiling.
[11:27] <p0mtop> The monkeying about with firefox et al for that would be painful.
[11:27] <acuster> soundray, seems like it was a few bad boots in a row from my crummy external usb case. another boot worked (with autodetect). thanks again
[11:27] <p0mtop> Thankfully my ISP is one of those who are hosting the iso download.
[11:27] <dabaR> andyjeffries: /msg ubotu compile, /msg ubotu compiling
[11:28] <soundray> acuster: any time
[11:29] <andyjeffries> dabaR: Are you talking about from an aesthetic point of view?  I want to keep my system neat (so when I upgrade to Edgy on it's release it can automatically update those packages).  Maybe my best bet might be to read how to create a .deb.  Is there an easy way to get the current Ubuntu PHP 5.1.2 .deb and update it with a new PHP 5.1.3 tarball?  I'm not used to .debs (but know I could do the same thing with RPMs or Ebuilds).
[11:29] <andyjeffries> I'm also a software developer so I'm not afraid of compiling, just dislike seemingly adhoc changes rather than going through the distributions package management system.
[11:30] <cyphase> :P
[11:30] <cyphase> maybe not a team, but it needs to be a goal
[11:30] <p0mtop> Heh. And not just add it to the end of the debconf?
[11:31] <p0mtop> Ironically I know someone with the same setup as me and it works fine apparently in kubuntu.
[11:32] <dabaR> andyjeffries: ya, if you make a checkinstall, which I believe is covered in one of the links ubotu has on compiling, you will be able to also uninstall the source-code-made package at a later time, for upgrades, say. Not the easiest way to go around maybe, with all the links necessary to let the system know to use that php, but that is what I can think of.
[11:32] <Ng> andyjeffries: if the newer version is in edgy/debian you may well be able to patch the dapper package up to the latest version, but you should be careful of what patches are already applied - it may be that dapper includes some of the latest bugfixes
[11:35] <cupworld> hi Hobbsee
[11:35] <Hobbsee> hey cupworld
[11:37] <orbin> anyone else getting this odd intermittant error message: "Error Launching Browser Window: No XBL Binding For Browser" when starting firefox?
[11:38] <dabaR> I have an issue with printing to a HP PSC 1215 on a win XP computer. I get to add the printer through the gnome-cups-add dialog, and it gets detected on the network, after entering the proper passwords for connecting to that PC. I then get to choose the printer driver, and mine is not listed. There is psc 1210, and 1200, so I tried choosing either, and the printer gets added, and says ready when the other PC and printer are on.
[11:38] <dabaR> However, I send the printer a job, which gets added to the printer q on the XP PC, and starts being printed, then hangs forever. Any clues?
[11:38] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i set , to a user only have acces to his home?
[11:38] <MetaMorfoziS> not anywhere systemfolders, /media etc
[11:38] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[11:39] <Slavik> hi
[11:39] <biertie> hi
[11:39] <Slavik> speak czech and slovak ?
[11:39] <biertie> I have a probllem
[11:39] <biertie> I am a starter with linux
[11:39] <spikeb> !cz
[11:39] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[11:40] <biertie> yesterday, I have installed ubuntu on my windows pc (dual boot)
[11:40] <biertie> everything works great
[11:40] <biertie> exept.. my asus usb modem
[11:40] <g-nome> what is the debian menu for?
[11:41] <Slavik> ubotu dik
[11:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about dik
[11:41] <Slavik> thanx :)
[11:41] <dabaR> g-nome: it is a menu. really a left over feature noone ever cleaned up, it seems to me.
[11:41] <cyphase> stuff that's part of the song
[11:42] <g-nome> dabaR: what a bloat...
[11:42] <dabaR> g-nome: meh. Do you know how to use alacarte?
[11:42] <orbin> cyphase: new ears?
[11:42] <cyphase> lol
[11:42] <g-nome> yeah removed it
[11:42] <cyphase> it's as if it was always there
[11:42] <cyphase> but the programs i use can't play it
[11:42] <cyphase> couldn't*
[11:43] <cyphase> gsteramer update?
[11:43] <cyphase> gstreamer*
[11:43] <cyphase> meaning, from breezy to dapper
[11:43] <g-nome> orbin: how can you hide your country like this (in irc)? i want too :-)
[11:44] <nashy> hey guys
[11:45] <orbin> g-nome: request a cloak from a freenode staffer
[11:45] <dabaR> hello
[11:45] <nashy> reinstalled, still no firefox
[11:45] <eugman> So why do so many people idle here?
[11:45] <g-nome> orbin: how can i do this exactly?
[11:47] <nashy> so anyone know whats happening with Firefox?  :-(
[11:47] <orbin> g-nome: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#helpfromstaff
[11:48] <chrisbudden14> morning
[11:48] <nashy> *still no firefox*
[11:49] <iBrood> My kuubntu installation icon wont work. can someone please help me.
[11:50] <orbin> nashy: missed the question.  did you remove it?
[11:50] <eugman> IBrood, installation icon? Could you elaborate?
[11:50] <iBrood> the icon in dapper that is support to start installing from the live cd
[11:51] <dabaR> What does the A in "i   A   hpijs - printer driver..." in aptitude stand for?
[11:51] <eugman> IBrood, what happens when you try it?
[11:51] <blo> Hi, I'm wondering if the Ubuntu package for amaroK is compiled with libvisual support.  Anyone know?
[11:51] <spike> hi there
[11:51] <iBrood> nothing, it bounces around for a while and then dissapers
[11:52] <spike> on dapper apt-get install w32codes and libdvdcss2 fail
[11:52] <spike> it says package has no available candidates
[11:52] <dabaR> spike: of course
[11:52] <spike> worked fine on my old breezy
[11:52] <iBrood> konqueror works, but after a long delay
[11:52] <diop> how do i know the version of my Xorg ?
[11:52] <KenSentMe> !multiverse > spike
[11:52] <dabaR> spike: you had external repos in your sources.list
[11:52] <Hobbsee> blo: should od, yeah
[11:52] <spike> dabaR: so I have now, the restricted repo
[11:52] <KenSentMe> !restricted > spike
[11:53] <KenSentMe> spike: check what uboto tells you
[11:53] <blo> Hobbsee: Well, is there any reason no libvisual plugins show up in amaroK for me?
[11:53] <blo> Just xmms ones... I have all the libvisual packages installed and everything
[11:53] <eugman> Sorry, iBrood. I'm not sure what to do.
[11:53] <iBrood> ok
[11:53] <dabaR> KenSentMe: neither of those packages are in multiverse, are they?
[11:53] <iBrood> I'll post it on the forums then
[11:53] <orbin> iBrood: never tried it, but can you right-click on it and view it's properties?
[11:54] <eugman> diop, you could probably look at the packages in synaptic.
[11:54] <Hobbsee> blo: do you have libvisual0.2-plugins installed?
[11:54] <Hobbsee> blo: which amarok, too?
[11:54] <iBrood> well, there's a power cut at my place so I cant use that computer now
[11:54] <iBrood> what do you want me to check though?
[11:54] <blo> Hobbsee: I have that package installed, yes... amaroK 1.3.9
[11:55] <Hobbsee> blo: weird, i dont know.  it seems to be.
[11:55] <zaya> help
[11:55] <blo> Should I purge amarok and reinstall it?
[11:55] <eugman> Zaya, Ask a question first.
[11:55] <orbin> iBrood: what command it runs.  try launching it from a terminal.  might spit out some errors.   just a stab
[11:56] <blo> Or should I find another repository that has amaroK 1.4.1 in it and try that?
[11:56] <iBrood> ok, I'll check it when the power comes back, went out a sec ago
[11:56] <eugman> Zaya, I want to help you but I need to know what your problem is.
[11:56] <Lynoure> zaya: Ubuntu is a good distro but it does not grant mindreading abilities to people using it, unfortunately :)
[11:56] <eugman> Lynoure, should i report that as a bug?
[11:56] <KenSentMe> dabaR: could be, i think he should look at the restricted page
[11:57] <zaya> thanks.  im a mexican.. i join in ubuntu-es
[11:57] <zaya> my inglish its bad.
[11:57] <zaya> thank =)
[11:57] <Lynoure> eugman: Maybe against the mindreading package. =)
[11:57] <Lynoure> zaya: good luck!
[11:58] <Healot> my spanish is bad... zaya
[11:58] <KenSentMe> dabaR: ok, thanx for the ubotu messages, but i already know them
[11:58] <zaya> =) oks thanksss.!! (y)
[11:59] <dabaR> KenSentMe: oh, the restrictedformats page...ya, you are right.
[11:59] <nashy> I've still got no working broswer, but have network connectivity
[11:59] <nashy> anyone help?
[11:59] <eugman> Nashy, what happens whe you try to visit a website?
[11:59] <nekromaan> hello i compiled a new kernel and get this error msg http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=443368 and i cant mount my second hard drive
[11:59] <bony> nashy, firefox must be there?
[11:59] <nashy> eugman: sits for ages, then times out
[11:59] <boga> I want to make money writing articles for Linux. Anyone knows what sites accept articles for cash?
[12:00] <carlosj> ola
[12:00] <blo> If libvisual doesn't work in amaroK installed from Ubuntu package repos (1.3.9) what should I do?
[12:00] <bony> boga, try freesoftwaremagzine or linuxjournel
[12:00] <boga> thanx
[12:00] <nashy> bony:  Its isntalled, doesn't work though
[12:00] <bony> nashy, dose it quit the movment you try to run it?
[12:01] <bony> nashy, if so try running it from the terminal
[12:01] <Lynoure> nashy: how have you tested network connectivity? And have you tried accessing various servers?
[12:01] <eugman> hmmm, nashy install links2 and then type links2 www.google.com    . That should determine if it's related specifically to that browser or not.
[12:01] <eugman> Type that into the terminal I mean.
[12:02] <fyrestrtr> you don't need to install links2
[12:02] <xanax`> hello
[12:02] <fyrestrtr> first thing you need to do, is find out if your dns is setup properly.
[12:02] <bony> xanax`, hello
[12:02] <fyrestrtr> from a terminal, type dig google.com
[12:02] <fyrestrtr> do you get a response?
[12:02] <nashy> eugman:  I have tried pinging google, and all is fine, and firefox opens my router all fine
[12:03] <eugman> Ok, so firefox is just wonky then correct?
[12:03] <nashy> fyrestrtr: as above
[12:03] <nashy> yeah.  Won't connect to the net
[12:03] <fyrestrtr> nashy: are you behind a proxy?
[12:03] <nashy> I don't believe so
[12:03] <fyrestrtr> what happens when you type wget http://www.google.com/ in a terminal window?
[12:04] <nashy> fyrestrtr: Resolving google.com... 1.0.0.0         Connecting to google.com|1.0.0.0|:80...
[12:05] <fyrestrtr> ermm...
[12:05] <fyrestrtr> google.com doesn't have the ip address of 1.0.0.0
[12:05] <fyrestrtr> type cat /etc/resolv.conf -- what do you see on the screen?
[12:06] <Fitzz> Can someone suggest me a software wich i could use to chat and file share over intranet?
[12:06] <fyrestrtr> Fitzz: chat Applications -> Internet -> Gaim
[12:07] <Fitzz> can ip talk on gaim?
[12:07] <Fitzz> connect inside intranet with gaim?
[12:07] <nashy> fyrestrtr: cat: /etc/resolve.conf: No such file or directory
[12:07] <eugman> Fitzz, dod you know wht protocol you need to chat on?
[12:07] <dabaR> nashy: and how does pinging work by domain names then?
[12:08] <fyrestrtr> nashy: its cat /etc/resolv.conf (no e)
[12:08] <RShadow> can somebody explain to me how I can install a piece of software, without install the dependencies? (for example I want to install mailman, but it wants to install apache. I don't want it to install apache because I already have a local build of it (I wanted 2.2 of apache) )
[12:08] <diop> how to know my material config ? graph card, HDD, processor and so on :
[12:08] <Fitzz> eugman, any protocal that doesn't require server... that i can connect to other computer if she is waiting. And i am able to share files too
[12:08] <nashy> fyrestrtr: nameserver 182.168.1.1
[12:08] <dabaR> RShadow: ignore-depends
[12:08] <nashy> sorry 192.168.1.1
[12:09] <nashy> which is my router
[12:09] <RShadow> dabaR, thnx
[12:09] <dabaR> RShadow: man apt-get, man dpkg
[12:09] <eugman> Fitzz, Hmm I not sure then. Keep asking.
[12:10] <kristian> Hatred, you here?
[12:10] <nashy> fyrestrtr?
[12:11] <orbin> diop: hardinfo is nice
[12:11] <fyrestrtr> nashy: now, what do you get when you type dig ubuntu.com | grep ubuntu.com. (that extra period at the end is important)
[12:11] <RShadow> dabaR, I have checked the man files for apt-get which is why I asked, because it doesn't mention it.. and ignore-depends doesn't work.
[12:12] <orbin> diop: but i usually just use some console commands
[12:12] <dabaR> RShadow: it is a dpkg option.
[12:12] <dabaR> RShadow: perhapd download all the packages that you want installed, then dpkg -i them, with ingore-depends. You are aware that you could break something like this, right?
[12:13] <nashy> fyrestrtr: Done, now what?
[12:13] <RShadow> dabaR, yes I'm aware of that, but IMHO Ubuntu has some pretty strange depends.. (for example, mutt depends on postfix). But there should be a simple way to tell apt-get to just install the software I want.. I guess I'm spoiled by emerge
[12:14] <dabaR> RShadow: not sure.
[12:15] <fyrestrtr> nashy: what did you get as a response?
[12:15] <fyrestrtr> (sorry am working on three pcs at once)
[12:15] <foxiness> can i chagne d4x to show me a speed of download with Kb or KB?
[12:16] <edgy> Hi, I put a script in /etc/cron.hourly but it seems it's not working, where can I find the log for it to track the reason?
[12:18] <foiker> hi ppl
[12:18] <KenSentMe> edgy: maybe you could look in /var/log/syslog
[12:18] <foxiness> hi foiker
[12:18] <nashy> fyrestrtr:  All sorts of stuff about blackcatnetworks, and stuff.  Everything says IN
[12:18] <Pooky> Is there a way to enable utf-8 in the local file system?
[12:18] <foiker> anyone know where the config file for totem gstreamer is? So I can change the subtitles codepage...
[12:18] <fyrestrtr> nashy: okay, now do this command dig @192.168.1.1 ubuntu.com | grep ubuntu.com. -- you get the same results?
[12:19] <KenSentMe> foiker: i think the gstreamer config files are in /home/<user>/.gstreamer
[12:20] <nashy> fyrestrtr: the numbers after the .com's are different
[12:20] <foiker> KenSentMe: Been there....it doesnt exist...(I enabled hidden files)
[12:20] <nashy> other than that they are the same
[12:20] <edgy> KenSentMe: on syslog there is messages like: (root) CMD (   run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly) but the name of my script doesn't show
[12:20] <webmind> hi
[12:20] <fyrestrtr> nashy: okay, now try this wget http://www.ubuntu.com/
[12:20] <cwillu> yay, the night is over
[12:21] <webmind> I've got a question about gscreensaver
[12:21] <KenSentMe> edgy: i don't know much about crons, it was just a thought
[12:21] <webmind> it doesn't seem to be completely functional
[12:21] <cwillu> now, who wants to help me get a printer working?
[12:21] <webmind> is that correct ?
[12:21] <cwillu> webmind: in what sense?
[12:21] <KenSentMe> cwillu: what printer?
[12:21] <webmind> cwillu, well for instance.. I've got a slideshow screen saver.. but no way to set the slides ?
[12:21] <cwillu> brother mfc3240c
[12:21] <cwillu> webmind: ah, yes
[12:21] <webmind> or any screen saver specific settings at all for that matter
[12:21] <cwillu> webmind: quite
[12:22] <webmind> so dapper now has a only partial working screensaver as default ?
[12:22] <cwillu> webmind: apparently this is by design, but yes, it's misguided
[12:22] <nashy> fyrestrtr:  same as when I did it to google.com earlier, says connecting etc. |80... and keeps flashing at me
[12:22] <webmind> cwillu, this is by -design- ??
[12:22] <edgy> KenSentMe: thx any way for the trial
[12:22] <cwillu> webmind: install xscreensaver and remove gnome-screensaver
[12:22] <cwillu> webmind: not _my_ design :p
[12:22] <webmind> cwillu, yes. I know the solustion for me
[12:22] <webmind> soltion
[12:22] <webmind> arg
[12:22] <webmind> solution
[12:22] <fyrestrtr> nashy: does it download anything?
[12:22] <cwillu> yep
[12:22] <webmind> but I'm also thinking of those loads of cluebees I try to convert
[12:23] <cwillu> I wish they hadn't done it myself;  there's also some security concerns in bringing in the extra libs used in the gnome version (screen locking)
[12:23] <spikeb> webmind: well, there's no real solution for them
[12:23] <nashy> fyrestrtr: nope
[12:23] <webmind> spikeb, any idea how this came to be ?
[12:24] <fyrestrtr> nashy: type tracepath google.com
[12:24] <spikeb> webmind: gnomescreensaver finally got accepted.
[12:24] <spikeb> webmind: that's how heh
[12:24] <fyrestrtr> see where it is hanging -- there is a problem with your router or something.
[12:24] <webmind> spikeb, but why ?
[12:24] <cwillu> webmind:  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/22007 might be what you're after
[12:24] <spikeb> webmind: i'm guessing because ubuntu is gnome orientated
[12:25] <cwillu> webmind: what spikeb is trying to say is that they didn't really think about the implications much  :p
[12:25] <KenSentMe> cwillu: it seems like you can download the debian/ubuntu drivers from this page: http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/cups_drivers.html and then probably you can 'sudo dpkg -i <downloaded.deb file>' to install it
[12:25] <spikeb> cwillu: basically.
[12:26] <cwillu> KenSentMe: oops, I was there, completely missed the deb file
[12:26] <cwillu> thanks
[12:26] <nashy> fyrestrtr: Now what?  It went around the world as if I did it on windows tracert, 16 - 31 no reply
[12:26] <fyrestrtr> okay we can still try some things.
[12:26] <webmind> cwillu, k
[12:27] <webmind> ok, other question.. does anyone know how to create something like an ubuntu update cd ?
[12:27] <webmind> a custom one
[12:27] <nashy> fyrestrtr: alrighty...?  Should I be scared :-p
[12:27] <whitepyro> dose ubuntu have a fire wall that might block postfix/sendmail from sending out?
[12:27] <fyrestrtr> nashy type this telnet google.com 80
[12:27] <KenSentMe> cwillu: well, it might not work, i'm now trying to install my HL2030 with the .deb, but it doesn't work properly
[12:27] <nashy> fyrestrtr: connected
[12:28] <fyrestrtr> then type this GET /index.html HTTP/1.1
[12:28] <fyrestrtr> then type Host: google.com
[12:28] <fyrestrtr> and hit enter (again)
[12:28] <foiker> can anyone at least tell me the name of the config file for gstreamer so I can search it ? its a buzzer
[12:29] <nashy> fyrestrtr: woo text google.  That worked
[12:29] <KenSentMe> foiker: maybe you find something in gconf-editor
[12:29] <fyrestrtr> you got HTTP/1.1 302 Found and all that junk from the google server?
[12:29] <nashy> sure did
[12:29] <dabaR> did he enter a proxy, by chance?
[12:29] <fyrestrtr> nashy: okay now hit ctrl and ] 
[12:29] <foiker> KenSentMe: ok ty...will do r8 now
[12:30] <fyrestrtr> then at the telnet> prompt, type quit
[12:30] <nashy> done
[12:30] <fyrestrtr> nashy: there is no problem with your internet connection, and you are not using a proxy -- congratulations.
[12:30] <nashy> hoorah.  Firefox still doesn't like me though
[12:31] <fyrestrtr> okay now open up firefox
[12:31] <whitepyro> help I broke my toe!
[12:31] <nashy> firefox open at the welcome to ubuntu file
[12:32] <whitepyro> wahoo
[12:32] <fyrestrtr> nashy: what happens when you try to go to www.google.com ?
[12:33] <whitepyro> you tried reinstalling firefox?
[12:33] <nashy> it just says connecting, the after a while it will time out
[12:33] <foxiness> can i chagne d4x to show me a speed of download with Kb or KB?
[12:33] <DarkMageZ> with nautilus, where do i find the settings which tell it which files to open with which programs?
[12:34] <spikeb> DarkMageZ: right click on the file
[12:34] <whitepyro> edit -> pref -> connection settings. whats in their
[12:35] <DarkMageZ> spikeb, oh, yeah i know those ones, but i wanna change a .wma to default to totem on double click, instead of mplayer
[12:35] <shade^> Anyone have experience with sata + ata drivers and grub? I cannot seem to get grub load and therefore I cannot boot to ubuntu at all.. Sata is master with xp installation?
[12:35] <spikeb> that USED to change the default. no idea now.
[12:35] <SVisor> MOT: Which video driver should I use in Win98 (guest) with WMWare server running on Ubuntu?
[12:36] <fyrestrtr> nashy: what are your firefox settings?
[12:36] <fyrestrtr> nashy: do other things work -- like can you ... refresh the repos from synaptic, get on gaim, etc.
[12:36] <nashy> repos are fine, I'll check another thing
[12:36] <DarkMageZ> spikeb, got it :), have to goto properties in the right click menu =D
[12:37] <foiker> grrrrr cant seem to find it I'll wget totem xine..it's a pity though gstreamer work fine for me
[12:37] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i set to a user ONLY can read and modify his home?
[12:37] <foiker> at least till now
[12:37] <nashy> fyrestrtr: FF settings is selected Direct connection to the net, just like my windows laptop
[12:38] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i set to a user ONLY can read and modify his home?
[12:39] <nashy> fyrestrtr: gaim isn't connecting
[12:39] <boga> MetaMorfoziS: what are you trying to prevent?
[12:39] <foiker> MetaMorfoziS: mas douleueis ? :P
[12:39] <MetaMorfoziS> mi a faszvan?
[12:39] <cwillu> MetaMorfoziS: how do you mean?
[12:39] <MetaMorfoziS> i mean, if he logins on sftp, he only can list his home
[12:40] <MetaMorfoziS> list and modify
[12:40] <p0mtop> If I'm reading that right, I'd just make sure they're not in sudoers and any other groups that allow / access.
[12:40] <p0mtop> Ah.
[12:40] <boga> p0mtop: right on the head!
[12:41] <nashy> fyrestrtr: trying to connect to both msn and icq, neither of which work
[12:41] <p0mtop> Unless he doesn't want the user enumerating ~any~ folder other than their own.
[12:41] <p0mtop> In which case, yeah, just make sure they're not in any of the system groups.
[12:42] <p0mtop> MetaMorfoziS, Just make sure the user isn't in /etc/sudoers, and their 'groups' is something completely separate.
[12:42] <p0mtop> Might even give them their own group, just to be safe.
[12:42] <cwillu> He'll still have access to any files with 'other' permissions though
[12:42] <p0mtop> Yeah, that's my concern.
[12:42] <KenSentMe> cwillu: do you manage to get your printer installed?
[12:43] <p0mtop> I mean, I know some versions did allow to stop users jumping out of dirs.
[12:43] <cwillu> depending on the service he's logging on via, you might be able to tell it to only allow certain access, regardless of permissions
[12:43] <cwillu> KenSentMe: deb installed, printer driver hasn't shown up though;
[12:43] <p0mtop> I'd just make main folders unreadable by nonroot.
[12:43] <p0mtop> Ie, / /etc, /var.
[12:43] <KenSentMe> cwillu: the deb wasn't working correctly for me either
[12:43] <cwillu> p0mtop: that's kinda crappy though,
[12:43] <stelki> Where do I set my media player in ubuntu? (if I can change that - rhythmbox is silly)
[12:43] <p0mtop> Yah.
[12:44] <nashy> fyrestrtr: both just cancelled because of the time it was taking
[12:44] <p0mtop> It is.
[12:44] <cwillu> p0mtop: installing acl support is probably the only general solution
[12:44] <p0mtop> Yeah.
[12:44] <cwillu> but that's not exactly beginner territory
[12:44] <p0mtop> Or some form of fake root to sit the folder in.
[12:44] <cwillu> support's in the ubuntu kernel though, so it's not kernel-hacker territory either :)
[12:44] <cwillu> hmm
[12:44] <Schalken> is there anything that can be used to increase system performance?
[12:44] <cwillu> ya
[12:45] <cwillu> Schalken: is there anything that can make me run faster?
[12:45] <cwillu> better be a bit more specific :p
[12:46] <p0mtop> stelki, gstreamer-properties if you're trying to change your sound output.
[12:46] <cwillu> KenSentMe: any luck finding the ppd via locate yet?
[12:46] <Schalken> well ubuntu is running HORRIBLY slow on a pretty fast computer (celerond 64bit 3ghz, 1gb ram)
[12:46] <cwillu> I'm just updating my db to check if you haven't
[12:46] <Schalken> cwillu: see above
[12:46] <cwillu> Schalken: again, doesn't tell me much, but I'll take a guess that you might be swapping a bit aggressively
[12:46] <SVisor> Schalken: Video drivers have huge impact. What kind of video do you have?
[12:46] <cwillu> Schalken: try sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=0
[12:47] <stelki> p0mtop: not exactly, just the media player that it tries to control with my internet keyboard keys
[12:47] <cwillu> Schalken: see why I asked?  :)
[12:47] <Schalken> SVisor: onboard
[12:47] <p0mtop> Aha.
[12:47] <p0mtop> Just trying to rememer that.
[12:47] <nashy> fyrestrtr?
[12:47] <webmind> uhm.. can anyone tell me how to set the slideshow in gscreensaver ?
[12:47] <Schalken> SVisor: sis 661fx, to be specific
[12:47] <p0mtop> I think changing open-with usually does it.
[12:47] <whitepyro> ok dose ubuntu have a firewall yes/no?
[12:47] <p0mtop> whitepyro, Yes, and is locked down by default iirc.
[12:47] <fyrestrtr> nashy: reinstall firefox
[12:47] <cwillu> whitepyro: kernel has firewall support, but most linux installs don't need one
[12:48] <bezibaerchen> whitepyro: not by default. install firestartet e.g.
[12:48] <p0mtop> I recall having to open up ports, unless firestarter added a default conf.
[12:48] <cwillu> whitepyro: the linux solution is to just not run services on the internet by default;  anything beyond that is overkill for most home use
[12:48] <whitepyro> ok now I setup postfix but it keeps failing to send.. Could a firewall be blocking port 25 from sending?
[12:48] <KenSentMe> cwillu: mine was in /etc/cups/ppd/
[12:48] <nashy> fyrestrtr: How?  It won't let me remove it or anything
[12:48] <whitepyro> aka timeout
[12:48] <Schalken> cwillu: uhm, i just did 'sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=0', what did i just do?
[12:48] <KenSentMe> cwillu: but it doesn't work
[12:49] <SVisor> Schalken: No to me known trouble with that one. Except it does not have DRI support.
[12:49] <cwillu> Schalken: it tells the kernel to not swap out processes until absolutely neccessary;  if apps are hanging for a few seconds at a time, it's generally a good approach
[12:49] <cwillu> Schalken: but i still don't know if that's your problem :)
[12:49] <cwillu> KenSentMe: one sec, trying seomthing
[12:49] <Schalken> cwillu: hmm
[12:50] <DarkMageZ> Schalken, run top in a terminal, top lists processes in order of processor usage. see if anything is doing overkill =D
[12:50] <compengi> Schalken, the sis chipset is slow and it's celeron so you have 256k level 2 cash
[12:50] <p0mtop> And this is where I cross my fingers and hope that i386 works with my x1600 when amd64 didn't.
[12:50] <cwillu> Schalken: open a terminal window
[12:50] <cwillu> and do a 'locate 1'
[12:50] <Schalken> SVisor: yes im aware of the lack of dri. anything opengl runs about 0.03 frames per second or less :p
[12:50] <KenSentMe> cwillu: to get the installation of the deb to run without errors i made symlinks in /etc/init.d from cups and lpd to cupsys
[12:50] <cwillu> do the files go flying by, or are they slow?
[12:51] <cwillu> KenSentMe: does the printer work at that point though?  I didn't get any errors on the deb, but it still didn't work
[12:51] <Schalken> cwillu: flying by
[12:51] <cwillu> KenSentMe: yay for alien built debs :(
[12:51] <Schalken> cwillu: zoom
[12:51] <KenSentMe> cwillu: no
[12:51] <cwillu> Schalken: okay, doesn't sound like the vid card
[12:51] <cwillu> :/
[12:51] <whitepyro> :(
[12:52] <cwillu> KenSentMe: I'm seeing a file /usr/local/Brother/cupswrapper/cupswrapperMFC3240C-1.0.0 that refers to a ppd file internally, but the ppd file isn't anywhere
[12:52] <notme> How do I reconfigure ethernet?  I swapped my hard drive to a new computer and now ifconfig shows only lo0.
[12:52] <cwillu> Schalken: can you describe what you mean by slow?
[12:52] <whitepyro> \./
[12:52] <cwillu> notme: what about the gnome-networking tool?
[12:53] <notme> Hmm...
[12:53] <cwillu> whitepyro: are you sure your isp isn't blocking it?
[12:53] <p0mtop> Interesting.
[12:53] <whitepyro> well im not doing relay...
[12:53] <bobobogu> !repos
[12:53] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:53] <p0mtop> Going from breezy to dapper, my download speeds seem to have trebled.
[12:53] <whitepyro> but could my isp be blocking it even though its from sendmail module?
[12:53] <p0mtop> At least from the repo's.
[12:54] <p0mtop> whitepyro, Possibly.
[12:54] <bobobogu> !easysource
[12:54] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:54] <Schalken> cwillu: well its kinda the drawing. as i drag a window around the screen, it lags behind. and you can kinda see the window being drawn from top to bottom with each refresh of movement. (about 3 times a second)
[12:54] <Boglizk> How do i rename stuffs? i think i'm using the wrong parameters...
[12:54] <whitepyro> how can I change the port to test this theory?
[12:54] <p0mtop> Boglizk, Rename a file?
[12:54] <Boglizk> yeah
[12:54] <p0mtop> Boglizk, Generally mv is as good as rename if you're using a console.
[12:54] <p0mtop> So, mv oldname newname
[12:54] <Schalken> cwillu: do you know what i mean? its like its struggling to draw the window on the screen.
[12:54] <Boglizk> p0mtop, ah, thanks
[12:54] <cwillu> whitepyro: I'd almost want to check that the service is listening on an external adapter (i.e., eth0) rather than on localhost (lo)
[12:55] <whitepyro> how can i check to see if its doing that?
[12:55] <cwillu> Schalken: how do the screensaver's look?  (esp the 3d ones)
[12:55] <p0mtop> But you have to be in the same dir as the file :)
[12:55] <whitepyro> i spent 6 hrs trying to get this thing going
[12:55] <whitepyro> lol
[12:55] <bobobogu> isn't there a nice paste bin with all repos on it someware
[12:55] <bobobogu> ?
[12:55] <cwillu> whitepyro: have you looked at the conf file in /etc ?
[12:55] <cwillu> !sources.list
[12:55] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:55] <Frogzoo> !easysource > bobobogu
[12:55] <Schalken> cwillu: like hell. as i said everything opengl runs at a frame every couple of seconds.
[12:56] <jrib> bobobogu: paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[12:56] <cwillu> ah, missed that bit
[12:56] <whitepyro> theres lots of cfg's :D which should i look at..  postfix?
[12:56] <p0mtop> Yeah, postfix.
[12:56] <cwillu> ya, Schalken, vid card isn't configured right;  I'll have to hand you off to somebody who knows something about them though :)
[12:57] <whitepyro> main.cf?
[12:57] <p0mtop> I think that's the one. Don't quote me on that, haven't touched postfix in a bit.
[12:57] <whitepyro> never setup a mail thingy before :| still kinda new..
[12:57] <jrib> Schalken: what card do you have?
[12:57] <p0mtop> It's a fun experience, heh.
[12:57] <whitepyro> lol for sure
[12:57] <bobobogu> chears jrib
[12:57] <Schalken> cwillu: hmmm. maybe it better run like anything when i get my geforce 6200. but right now im trying to do some word processing and scrolling the page goes really badly. :(
[12:58] <whitepyro> especially when ur trying to program and can't cause u need to test mail
[12:58] <whitepyro> lol
[12:58] <Schalken> jrib: onboard, a sis 661fx chipset.
[12:58] <jrib> Schalken: oh, don't know about those
[12:58] <foxiness> if am using proxy and put it on "Network Proxy" is that will be wide use "on GUI app ,CLI app like wget" or not?
[12:58] <whitepyro> localhost.localdomain type stuff
[12:59] <p0mtop> Ok.
[12:59] <p0mtop> Here we are.
[12:59] <Schalken> whats the command to reconfigure your xorg configure thingo?
[12:59] <cwillu> KenSentMe: see if you can find a ppd file (printer cd, windows machine that it works on, etc), and use that in the gnome add-printer dialog
[12:59] <cwillu> Schalken: what type of mb?
[12:59] <p0mtop> inet_interfaces in main.cf whitepyro.
[12:59] <notme> Schalken: dexconf
[12:59] <jrib> Schalken: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:59] <p0mtop> Is that specified at all?
[12:59] <whitepyro> yes
[12:59] <foxiness> can i change d4x to show me the speed of download by KB or kb?
[01:00] <whitepyro> set to all
[01:00] <Frogzoo> !xorg
[01:00] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:00] <whitepyro> i followed the ubuntu server tutorial for the last 2 hrs lol
[01:00] <intelligi> My Java Runtime Environment isn't working, and I did everything it said to do on the webpage.
[01:00] <Schalken> cwillu: gigabyte sis 661fx chipset with DDR400
[01:00] <p0mtop> Ok.
[01:00] <Frogzoo> Schalken: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[01:00] <Schalken> jrib: yeah thats the one. thanks.
[01:01] <p0mtop> So it's listening on all interfaces.
[01:01] <whitepyro> it would seem so
[01:01] <jrib> intelligi: what do you mean by "isn't working" exactly?
[01:01] <jrib> Schalken: np, gl with your card
[01:01] <whitepyro> connection timed out (port 25)
[01:01] <p0mtop> Alright, open up /etc/services
[01:01] <whitepyro> thats all it keeps spamming in mail.log
[01:01] <intelligi> Firefox doesn't recongize it.
[01:02] <whitepyro> permission denied..
[01:02] <whitepyro> grr
[01:02] <p0mtop> Er, sudo gedit /etc/services
[01:02] <whitepyro> nano works
[01:02] <whitepyro> just tried that
[01:02] <whitepyro> :D
[01:02] <harry> is there a google earth for ubuntu??
[01:02] <cyphase>  GtkStatusIcon, a cross-platform "tray icon" API
[01:02] <cyphase>  GtkAssistant, a widget for creating multi-step wizards
[01:02] <jrib> intelligi: what does 'apt-cache policy sun-java5-plugin | grep -i Installed' say?
[01:02] <cyphase> new in GTK 2.10
[01:03] <cyphase> GTK+*
[01:03] <CVirus> what is the alternate edition ?
[01:03] <cwillu> CVirus: text mode install in case the livecd doesn't work properly
[01:03] <bezibaerchen> habtool: version on earth.google.com works
[01:03] <intelligi> Unable to locate.
[01:03] <whitepyro> huge list in here :D
[01:03] <Schalken> brb
[01:03] <harry> is there a google earth for ubuntu??
[01:03] <cyphase> yes
[01:04] <matusbraga> Amule closed alone!!! what i do?
[01:04] <Frogzoo> harry: http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/06/google-earth-on-ubuntu-dapper-video.html
[01:04] <bezibaerchen> habtool: version on earth.google.com works
[01:04] <jrib> intelligi: try to prepend my name to your response so I don't miss it in the traffic.  What webpage did you follow?
[01:04] <CVirus> cwillu: Thanks
[01:04] <cwillu> np
[01:04] <p0mtop> whitepyro, looking for smtp.
[01:04] <whitepyro> smtp 25/tcp mail
[01:05] <whitepyro> no desc :D
[01:05] <p0mtop> If I'm right, it should be a case of changing that port.
[01:05] <foxiness> bezibaerchen, not habtool harry
[01:05] <p0mtop> Use something other than 25, 80, etc.
[01:05] <whitepyro> how do i change port.. grr
[01:05] <bezibaerchen> foxiness: yeah fixed it, too much use of "tab" :-P
[01:05] <intelligi> jrib: I followed the one that tries to auto-install the plugin for Firefox but fails, by clicking on the manual button. Then I installed the stuff in that webpage. I put it in the /usr/local folder and created a link to it in the mozilla-firefox/plugins folder.
[01:05] <p0mtop> Just change the 25 bit :)
[01:05] <foxiness> bezibaerchen, haha
[01:05] <foiker> grrrrrrrrrrrrr some 'ol with vlc too......ppl I'm desperate. I googled it, searched locally. Spare me, anyone knows how to change the codepage for subtitles in totem gstreamer ?
[01:06] <jrib> intelligi: did you try the wiki instructions?  (which basically tell you to install sun-java5-plugin)
[01:06] <intelligi> No.
[01:06] <jrib> !java > intelligi
[01:07] <whitepyro> i gotta find that in a CFG
[01:07] <whitepyro> D:
[01:07] <foiker> well which one :) thatz the case
[01:07] <p0mtop> Heh, I'm not familiar with postfix sorry whitepyro.
[01:07] <p0mtop> But the service will listen on what's spec'ed in /etc/services
[01:08] <intelligi> jrib: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
[01:08] <p0mtop> And woot. I have 3d accell working now.
[01:08] <whitepyro> nope not that cfg
[01:08] <foiker> intelligi: Repositories
[01:08] <jrib> intelligi: you need to enable multiverse
[01:08] <Warbo> !multiverse
[01:08] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:08] <intelligi> I have.
[01:08] <intelligi> Which packages?
[01:09] <Warbo> intelligi: Search for java in synaptic or aptitude
[01:09] <ynef> intelligi: apt-cache search sun :)
[01:09] <jrib> intelligi: make sure you have dapper multiverse, not just dapper-backports multiverse.  You can paste the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give us a URL afterwards, if you still can't find the package
[01:09] <intelligi> There is tons of crap. Which one?
[01:09] <ynef> intelligi: sorry, search for jre :)
[01:10] <jrib> intelligi: sun-java5-plugin is all you need, it'll pull in the jre
[01:10] <jrib> sun-java5-bin is the jre package I believe
[01:10] <Warbo> I intalled them all (but not -doc because it needs a bit of setting up)
[01:12] <Pickle_Weasel> i know i'm a bit late on this bandwagon, but where would i find the instructions to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06?
[01:12] <whitepyro> ah..
[01:12] <whitepyro> i have to edit /etc/services i think :|
[01:12] <jrib> !upgrade > Pickle_Weasel
[01:12] <Warbo> !upgrade
[01:12] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[01:12] <Pickle_Weasel> thanks, i forgot all about the bot, it's been a while
[01:12] <intelligi> I don't see any sun-java thing in Synaptic.
[01:12] <jrib> intelligi: then pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:12] <Warbo> intelligi: Check Settings>Repositories and make sure the top one has multiverse ticked
[01:13] <pl_ice> hi guys :) any one can tell me how to install ubuntu from floppies? can't find info on the net, my server won't boot from CD ... :(
[01:13] <matusbraga> Amule closed alone!!! what i do?
[01:13] <TheDevil> hi all... wanna ask a question. i've looked for this but can't seem to find the answer... should i fire away?
[01:13] <Warbo> matusbraga: What exactly do you mean?
[01:13] <jrib> TheDevil: go for it
[01:13] <pl_ice> fire :)
[01:13] <ynef> pl_ice: I doubt you can do that -- if you can't find any info, check out debian
[01:13] <intelligi> Warbo: I have everything clicked. There is no sun-java5.
[01:14] <Warbo> intelligi: Dump your /etc/apt/sources.list into a pastebin then :)
[01:14] <Warbo> !pastebin
[01:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:14] <ynef> intelligi: I don't think that multiverse is "clickable" by default -- pastebin it
[01:14] <pl_ice> yeh, i don't really want BSD on it ;) how bout if i can drop the system on the HD then install? any chance of that?
[01:15] <KenSentMe> pl_ice: i thought it was possible to start the installation from floppy, one moment
[01:15] <pl_ice> thnx
[01:15] <intelligi> How do I pull that up on the terminal? /etc/apt/sources.lis?
[01:15] <ynef> intelligi: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:15] <TheDevil> cheers. ok i've got 2 hard disks. on the primary master theres win2k, xp and 2 more partitions that host data all NTFS... on my primary slave theres win2k3 server as "/hdb1" and theres data as "/hdb2"... now ubuntu is sitting on this second disk and during the installation i chose NOT to install GRUB into MBR... this is cause it kept stuffing up everything so that i had to fixmbr with win cd.... anyway
[01:15] <Warbo> pl_ice: In my experience, to boot a drive which the BIOS (or whatever) doesn't like then you need the right drivers in a kernel on a bootable device. I have not got a Linux kernel from Ubuntu to fit on a floppy though (I boot my USB drive from a CD)
[01:15] <ruxpin_> where are the 'denied users' saved?
[01:15] <AlexC> Hey, what do this error mean when I go to compile GimpShop checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[01:16] <TheDevil> i chose to install GRUB onto a floppy...
[01:16] <fyrestrtr> AlexC: means you need to install XML::Parser
[01:16] <TheDevil> its all working fine...
[01:16] <pl_ice> Warbo yeh, i can boot linux from a floppy, but then i just start the installation from a CD?
[01:16] <fyrestrtr> intelligi: a better way is grep ^deb /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:16] <AlexC> fyrestrtr, I gathered, but when I search for XML::Parser I get nothing.
[01:16] <ruxpin_> TheDevil: why won't you use GRUB?
[01:16] <TheDevil> i wish to duplicate that floppy... can't be too sure with floppy!!!!
[01:17] <KenSentMe> pl_ice: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall check there and follow the link to booting from floppy. It should work
[01:17] <TheDevil> i do use grub... but i chose to install it on a floppy
[01:17] <TheDevil> not the MBR
[01:17] <ruxpin_> TheDevil: why?
[01:17] <intelligi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17154
[01:17] <pl_ice> thnx :) can't wait to run that old HP server :D
[01:17] <fyrestrtr> AlexC: maybe you need this libxml-parser-perl - Perl module for parsing XML files
[01:17] <TheDevil> i've had many experiences where it will not load anything
[01:17] <Warbo> pl_ice: The kernel I have put on my CD is the actual kernel I run my system from, so it is pretty big (and the initrd.img is about 8MB). I don't know if you can use one kernel to boot another
[01:17] <TheDevil> GRUB hangs with random errors such as error 22 and 15
[01:17] <AlexC> fyrestrtr, thanks =)
[01:17] <TheDevil> etc
[01:18] <KenSentMe> pl_ice: the link to the grub boot floppy is not working, check this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy
[01:18] <TheDevil> anyway i wanna copy the boot disk... but it wont let me...
[01:18] <cyphase> if we take openoffice off the install cd and include something smaller..
[01:18] <ruxpin_> TheDevil: put in another floppy and write the mbr on that
[01:18] <cyphase> what else could we fit on it?
[01:18] <ruxpin_> TheDevil: and copy /boot
[01:18] <ynef> TheDevil: dd if=/dev/fd0 of=backup.img bs=1440 count=1 will copy the floppy to a file, which you can then write to several other floppies if you need (same command, reverse parameters "if" and "of")
[01:18] <intelligi> Here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17154
[01:18] <Awesome-o2000> how hard is it to compile progs from source in ubuntu?
[01:18] <Warbo> TheDevil: To duplicate a floppy just do "dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/home/whatever/floppy.img" to get an image of it, then reverse the if and of with a new floppy in the drive to create a duplicate
[01:18] <TheDevil> ynef!! cool
[01:19] <TheDevil> cheers everyone!
[01:19] <KenSentMe> !compile
[01:19] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[01:19] <Warbo> Dammit, too late :)
[01:19] <TheDevil> i was just using the GUI to auto mount and it wouldnt display the contents... not in windows or linux
[01:19] <ynef> Warbo: well, yours is probably better :)
[01:19] <Awesome-o2000> say for instance I wanted a few things to be a bit gentoo-like - tvtime, mplayer,etc would I have problems compiling these apps in ubuntu?
[01:19] <pl_ice> KenSentMe yeh, that should do it :/ as long as i boot the thing :) thnx
[01:19] <ynef> TheDevil: do Warbo's version
[01:19] <TheDevil> hopefully the dd will work... cheers
[01:19] <jrib> Awesome-o2000: nope
[01:19] <Warbo> ynef: I always use bs=512, I don't know if it is better or what
[01:19] <TheDevil> ok will do thanks ... kudos to all!
[01:20] <polpak> Awesome-o2000: though you probably don't need to compile
[01:20] <jrib> Awesome-o2000: although I don't know what you mean by 'gentoo-like' :P
[01:20] <KenSentMe> pl_ice: no problem, tell me if it worked
[01:20] <KenSentMe> !comile > Awesome-o2000
[01:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about comile
[01:20] <intelligi> Did you guys forget about me?
[01:20] <polpak> Awesome-o2000: most of these packages are in universe
[01:20] <KenSentMe> !compile > Awesome-o2000
[01:20] <Awesome-o2000> jrib, I mean downloading source packages instead of precompiled binaries and being able to compile them myself
[01:20] <Awesome-o2000> jrib, I dont want to do it with everything, just the kernel and some apps
[01:20] <jrib> Awesome-o2000: yep, 'apt-get source packagename' will get you the source package
[01:21] <pl_ice> oh, another question, just now my HD is failing, not sure what is it, eg. power failure, is there a bootable program that can check my motherboard etc? my linux box just freezes, no logs nothing, or jumps to safe cli :/
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: why would you want to do that, unless there was some dire reason such as --- you desperately need a newer version of something.
[01:21] <whitepyro> sob..
[01:21] <AaSFi> should i change the identifier for Display device where it says Default Screen (there are 2 display devices) in order to use the propietary ati driver?
[01:21] <AaSFi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17153
[01:21] <AaSFi> thats my xorg.conf
[01:21] <Warbo> intelligi: You don't have multiverse enabled
[01:21] <ynef> Awesome-o2000: do that, but make sure to put them in a package so you can remove them in a controlled fashion -- use checkinstall if you don't want to learn how to make debian packages by hand
[01:21] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, I usually only do it when there is a fecal bug in a program
[01:21] <intelligi> How do I enable it?
[01:21] <Warbo> intelligi: I will edit your list and paste it back........
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> pl_ice: boot from the cd and run memtest
[01:21] <Awesome-o2000> ynef, thats what im asking - I can use those sources I d/l to build .deb packages
[01:22] <pl_ice> yeh, but that's just memory test, i've done that
[01:22] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: i think you should spend some time reading the manual page for dpkg
[01:22] <fyrestrtr> pl_ice: are you sure your computer isn't overheating?
[01:22] <pl_ice> fyrestrtr unless it's got more attribs in it :)
[01:22] <intelligi> Oh, I understand now. You have to edit it to enable it.
[01:23] <Warbo> intelligi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17155
[01:23] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, I think I just wanted to find out the situation with ubuntu, rather than reading a gigantic overblown manual for something I might not ever use.
[01:23] <ynef> Awesome-o2000: yep -- plenty of info on that on the internet. download the source, and when you're about to type "make install", just type "checkinstall" instead (provided you've installed that program) -- you'll get a package that you can remove using synaptic
[01:23] <pl_ice> fyrestrtr neh, it's cool, i got 2 hd, one for system, from time to time, it's just halts access to the hda, bang, freezes the system, or sometimes it's just can't access some blocks :D
[01:23] <Awesome-o2000> ynef, a .deb package?
[01:23] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: well, ubuntu by default doesn't even have the build tools (like make) installed -- because its not really geared towards people that tend to compile things by hand (there is gentoo for that).
[01:23] <ynef> Awesome-o2000: yeah, checkinstall can make slackware-ish tar.gz, RPM and DEB
[01:24] <Boglizk> Does anyone have any suggestions of low-resource themes and stuffs which will make my computer run faster?
[01:24] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: first thing you would do is, install the build-essential package, that will give you the basic toolchain (ld, make, gcc etc)
[01:24] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, do me a favor - dont respond to any more of my posts.
[01:24] <Warbo> ynef: So checkinstall is fixed in the repos? I know it was broken a while ago so I installed a package I found in the forums
[01:24] <ynef> Boglizk: do you need to use Gnome/KDE? if not, changing to a window manager like blackbox will make your computer fly :)
[01:24] <fyrestrtr> Boglizk: install fluxbox
[01:24] <ynef> Warbo: I wasn't aware that it was broken -- what's wrong with it?
[01:24] <Awesome-o2000> I appreciate the effort but its entirely misguided; whatever it is you're trying to accomplish isnt working.
[01:24] <foxiness> i want to twike wget to do unlimited resume and short peried when try to access to the server
[01:24] <Boglizk> I'm a linux newbie, a window manager would be prefered
[01:25] <cowa> i think xubuntu is for slow systems...
[01:25] <jrib> Boglizk: you can use xubuntu instead or set /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources in 'gconf-editor'
[01:25] <SonicChao> Why when I change my desktop picture, it doesn't say the same on the next boot?
[01:25] <pl_ice> Boglizk what system u got? :)
[01:25] <ynef> Boglizk: try to install the xbuntu-desktop meta package
[01:25] <Warbo> ynef: It couldn't make files and stuff, so it just aborted (no, it wasn't a permission problem, it was a commonly known problem)
[01:25] <intelligi> What is the delete command in the terminal?
[01:25] <Boglizk> I have a 399mhz with 192mb ram
[01:25] <fyrestrtr> intelligi: rm
[01:25] <cyphase> What does everyone think of having an ubuntu-desktop-expanded package that installs more programs alongside ubuntu-desktop?
[01:25] <FCTE> Build a new PC :)
[01:25] <Awesome-o2000> not trying to be jerky here but I use gentoo on my personal box and ubuntu on my servers
[01:26] <Boglizk> FCTE,  no money
[01:26] <Awesome-o2000> Im aware of what the distros are
[01:26] <ynef> Warbo: that's really dumb :( I don't know what version is in the repos, no -- sad bug
[01:26] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: so do I, what's your point?
[01:26] <cyphase> maybe even in main
[01:26] <cwillu> KenSentMe: any luck?
[01:26] <pl_ice> yeh, fluxbox or something like that, i had laptop similar to urs, worked ok :) with that one
[01:26] <Warbo> ynef: I would test it, but obviously my version works :)
[01:26] <ynef> Awesome-o2000: you can also check out the project called apt-build :)
[01:26] <jrib> Warbo: yeah it was broken a few weeks before dapper release, but checkinstall was fixed
[01:26] <Boglizk> Fluxbox or X-whatever ?
[01:26] <whitepyro> I QUIT!
[01:26] <whitepyro> my god
[01:27] <Warbo> jrib: OK, cheers. Now I can recommend it to people again :)
[01:27] <FCTE> I know people swear by blackbox
[01:27] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, my point is that comments like <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: i think you should spend some time reading the manual page for dpkg  <---- worthless.
[01:27] <ynef> Warbo: what version is that? my number is 1.5.3
[01:27] <SonicChao> When I change my desktop background, why won
[01:27] <Awesome-o2000> ynef, apt-build sounds interesting
[01:27] <ticki> Morning Everyone. I' m new to Ubuntu. I would like to change the out for the Grub Loader. `grub help` doesn't help much. Does anybody know how to do this. thanks
[01:27] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: you are the one wanting to know about turning stuff into .deb -- that's one tool you'll need to know about.
[01:27] <SonicChao> 't it stay the same on next boot?*
[01:27] <pl_ice> Boglizk google it, c if i can find it, a list of Xes for old systems
[01:27] <cyphase> i.e. a feed reader, tomboy, beagle, f-spot, some games, etc
[01:27] <polpak> whitepyro: did you ask a question?
[01:27] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: there are source file debs that build and install the package from source;  I think that's about what you're looking for
[01:27] <Warbo> ynef: 1.6.0-1
[01:27] <cyphase> xchat-gnome :)
[01:27] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, thats lovely. isnt support burnout a bitch?
[01:28] <ynef> Awesome-o2000: yeah, doesn't it? :) I've never used it, but I checked it out when I went from gentoo to the debian world ;)
[01:28] <Awesome-o2000> cwillu, nice
[01:28] <[gijoe] > ticki: sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:28] <ynef> Warbo: ah, well, that *is* newer :)
[01:28] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: also, if you end up doing any ./configure&make&make install stuff, check out checkinstall
[01:28] <ticki> thanks gijoe
[01:28] <cyphase> avahi
[01:28] <pl_ice> shit :/ i just run HD test on laptop, couse new ubuntu states that logical errors are present, and the HD is good :(
[01:28] <Awesome-o2000> ynef, Im frightened - I really do love gentoo, I doubt i'll leave it on this box, but you can pretty much say bye bye to windows. Ubuntu is really nice and I love the community.
[01:28] <Boglizk> jrib, where is this "/apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources" ?
[01:29] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: you run it instead of 'make install', and it launches it itself, monitoring what it does, and packages a binary deb of the result that you can then install (and uninstall)
[01:29] <pl_ice> i hate computers ... :(
[01:29] <jrib> Boglizk: run 'gconf-editor' in a terminal
[01:29] <Awesome-o2000> I even have xubuntu on my old p266mmx laptop
[01:29] <Boglizk> ah..
[01:29] <Awesome-o2000> cwillu, is it configurable - I dont know how well I can do without emerge
[01:29] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: also, Ignore is a wonder irc feature :p
[01:29] <Awesome-o2000> I really love emerge
[01:29] <Heda> hi all - my usb won't detect drives - it detects mouse and keyboard but nothing else
[01:29] <SonicChao> Can I get some help?
[01:30] <Awesome-o2000> cwillu, nah - he isnt trying to be malicious.
[01:30] <ranok> SonicChao, ask
[01:30] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: I can't say I've done much at all with gentoo
[01:30] <Warbo> I set someone up with Debian last week with E16 (had to fit in 700MB, so Ubuntu's advantages over Debian were basically lost). Works quite well with a crappy bootup script I made
[01:30] <ynef> Heda: plug something in, wait a couple of seconds and see what the last lines of output from the command "dmesg" is
[01:30] <pl_ice> Heda probably u have to mount them by hand, check the logs, it should find all things
[01:30] <Awesome-o2000> if he told me to rm -rf / I'd ignore him
[01:30] <cwillu> !help
[01:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[01:30] <SonicChao> ranok: Already did, I asked why when I change my desktop background, it doesn't stay the same on the next boot
[01:30] <Awesome-o2000> if he just isnt any better at answering questions than I am at asking them I can hardly fault the guy.
[01:31] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: :p;  I'd be surprised if you couldn't tweak compile settings, although I think 'not breaking stuff' is generally considered higher priority than "best possible performance"
[01:31] <Heda> pl_ice: its weird because it automounted then last night but now its not even showing then in /dev
[01:31] <pl_ice> SonicChao random desktop image?
[01:31] <ranok> SonicChao, hmmmmmm
[01:31] <cwillu> :p
[01:31] <SonicChao> pl_ice: It turns a brownish colour.
[01:31] <whitepyro> screw port 25 CHANGE!!
[01:31] <Warbo> SonicChao: Are you using Nautilus for your desktop background? (I don't and I end up with brown image as well)
[01:32] <pl_ice> SonicChao yeh,i had that one, did u by any chance use program for random images on desktop? they don't work, and u left with brown screen :D
[01:32] <ynef> Heda: so how about that dmesg output?
[01:32] <Heda> nothing zip zilch
[01:32] <SonicChao> pl_ice: No, I just tried Ubuntu Yesterday
[01:32] <Awesome-o2000> cwillu, thats the problem - what drove me to gentoo was the random bugs found in precompiled binaries. I have a real problem just waiting for devs to compile a fixed version - I havent found that people are really hot on doing heavy development work for no pay for short, bitchy Jews like myself.
[01:32] <fyrestrtr> god xgl is so loverly -- all my colleagues want me to install it on their machines. I'm like -- nope -- because then I'll be flooded with -- what happened to IE? Where is Outlook? type support calls.
[01:32] <pl_ice> Heda reboot :D
[01:32] <SonicChao> pl_ice: I did move the image after I put it on, can this be a problem?
[01:32] <Warbo> I use E16 and it starts with brown desktop image until E has finished loading, then it uses the right image
[01:32] <cwillu> whitepyro: silly question, but which package are you using again?
[01:32] <Warbo> SonicChao: Yes
[01:32] <whitepyro> postfix?
[01:32] <cwillu> fyrestrtr: ie4linux to the rescue :p
[01:32] <ranok> SonicChao, yeah, if it can't find it, it'll be a plain color
[01:32] <pl_ice> SonicChao then it can't find the image, just drop a new one in
[01:32] <Heda> i tried to restart hald but to no effect - will i try a full blown cold yeah ?
[01:33] <whitepyro> connection timed out (port 25).
[01:33] <whitepyro> sigh
[01:33] <Boglizk> So... how do i change from GNOME to XFCE?
[01:33] <fyrestrtr> whitepyro: might be blocked?
[01:33] <edgy> Hi, If I put any script in /etc/cron.hourly it won't run. can any one confirm this please?
[01:33] <Warbo> SonicChao: Files are loaded into memory while they are used, so you can delete a song you are listening to without it stopping, but trying to load it again won't work. Same with images
[01:33] <whitepyro> i'm trying to change the port
[01:33] <whitepyro> it won't change darnit
[01:33] <pl_ice> Heda i found my ipod shits on my usb system, and i have to reboot :/
[01:33] <Awesome-o2000> I absolutely love xgl. I cannot wait to migrate. I just want to make sure I have direct rendering in both apps and the desktop
[01:33] <ynef> Boglizk: if it's installed, all you need to do is click on the "Options" on the login screen, choose Session and switch to the XFCE session
[01:33] <SonicChao> Warbo: Okay thanks, didn't realize that, sorry
[01:33] <fyrestrtr> whitepyro: where? for what?
[01:33] <Heda> pl_ice: lol - ok i'll give it a bash
[01:33] <Heda> cheers
[01:34] <Boglizk> ynef, ohh... its that simple? cool
[01:34] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: surely, you have heard of kororaa right?
[01:34] <ynef> Boglizk: :)
[01:34] <whitepyro> since port 25 is timing out gonna try a diff port see if it works. But it won't change ports ...
[01:34] <cwillu> fyrestrtr: you check the interfaces, is it binding to all _addresses_? (0.0.0.0:25 ish)
[01:34] <pl_ice> oki, thnx i'm off
[01:34] <cwillu> fyrestrtr: fair warning, I don't run my own mail stuff, just shouting stuff
[01:34] <Warbo> I tried rebuilding Kororaa once. Dammit I hate Gentoo :)
[01:34] <fyrestrtr> cwillu: why are you shouting at me then? :)
[01:34] <cwillu> oops, wrong person
[01:35] <HackerX> Hey
[01:35] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, I have. I have the xgl livecd here. I have an nvidia 6800gs 512mb agp
[01:35] <cwillu> whitepyro:  what I just said to fyrestrtr
[01:35] <HackerX> How does one go about getting help?
[01:35] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: Erm, stable? Gentoo?
[01:35] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: is that a high end card? don't know my way around these model numbers. The ram is impressive though.
[01:35] <Awesome-o2000> im pretty sure Xgl will be the death of windows
[01:35] <Warbo> HackerX: Ask
[01:35] <spatieman> good morning.. :)
[01:35] <SonicChao> What is all the hype about XGL?
[01:35] <Ng> HackerX: ask a question, if someone can help you, they will
[01:35] <SonicChao> And what is XGL??
[01:35] <cwillu> whitepyro: are you sure it's not binding to a particular _address_ either?  (192.168.0.0/16 or something?)
[01:35] <HackerX> Ok
[01:35] <jrib> HackerX: just ask your question, if someone knows they'll answer
[01:35] <Warbo> !xgl
[01:35] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:35] <Ng> chat about xgl would be better in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:35] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, absolutely - ive got better stability out of windows than out of any other distro
[01:36] <cwillu> whitepyro: also, are you restarting the daemons after you change config?
[01:36] <whitepyro> yes
[01:36] <cwillu> (sudo'ing as neccessary)
[01:36] <whitepyro> postfix stop then restart then reload
[01:36] <whitepyro> :|
[01:36] <Awesome-o2000> sorry out of gentoo
[01:36] <FCTE> I don't gget the hype either, it's useless eyecandy at the cost of many resources
[01:36] <Awesome-o2000> I was going to say I have to go take a windows
[01:36] <Awesome-o2000> :)) brb
[01:36] <zoolander> salutare!
[01:36] <fyrestrtr> FCTE: its to show capabilities of advanced desktops, and its not just eye candy.
[01:36] <cwillu> ooo, brb;  download finished :)
[01:36] <whitepyro> maybe reboot?
[01:37] <zoolander> cineva din romania care ma poate ajuta ?
[01:37] <Warbo> FCTE: I don't like it that Compiz has all of these features. It would be better to make them independant like Composite, so any WM can use them
[01:37] <fyrestrtr> FCTE: for example, hit F12 on XGL enabled desktop to see all your open windows on one screen = great productivity enhancer.
[01:37] <foiker> guys come on spare me ...I cant believe my luck.....Isnt there any config file for totem gstreamer ?
[01:37] <HackerX> Ubuntu says that it sees my wireless device in my laptop and i enter my ssid for the network then it activates the device and say device active yet i have no network/net and the network is set to LO mode what should i do? Thanks
[01:37] <ranok> who here likes ATC?
[01:37] <FCTE> it's still buggy and not worth risking your xserver
[01:37] <fyrestrtr> air traffic control?
[01:37] <ranok> yeah
[01:38] <jrib> foiker: ~/.gnome2/totem_config
[01:38] <fyrestrtr> I do, why?
[01:38] <FCTE> I like stability more than eyecandy
[01:38] <foiker> jrib: doesnt exist
[01:38] <anzio_> Anyone here know about the Rockwell/Riptide Soundcard-Modems and how to get Ubuntu to recognize them? hcfpcimodem doesn't seem to work
[01:38] <meowmix> I downloaded a firefox icon, it's on my desktop now.  I'm trying to paste it into the same folder as the default firefox icon.  It won't let me.  Why, and how can I?
[01:38] <fyrestrtr> FCTE: well its still in alpha/beta mode -- so give it a few months.
[01:38] <HackerX> i ment Ubuntu says its in lo mode
[01:38] <jrib> foiker: make a config change to totem and see if it gets created
[01:38] <SonicChao> HackerX: I had a similar problem, the best solution is too hook up your computer with a Ethernet Cable
[01:38] <Warbo> FCTE: I like useful WM features rather than Metacity-like WM with wobbly stuff
[01:38] <whitepyro> is there a way to dump logs and have them blank? ;D
[01:38] <Awesome-o2000> I like stability AND eyecandy. when Xgl is stable, windows is FUXXED
[01:38] <HackerX> ok
[01:38] <HackerX> but
[01:38] <FCTE> wobbly makes me sea sick
[01:38] <FCTE> :)
[01:38] <peter07> how can I run quicktime movies ( H264 Codec ) ??
[01:39] <cwillu> anybody see that new desktop metaphor vid on reddit a few weeks back?
[01:39] <foiker> jrib: you lost me there :) can you rephrase plz ?
[01:39] <SonicChao> HackerX: But...?
[01:39] <Warbo> !restricted
[01:39] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:39] <Awesome-o2000> I showed Xgl to some of my windows pals and they said when its stable I can replace windows on their box
[01:39] <fyrestrtr> !restrictedformats > peter07
[01:39] <cwillu> icons on the desktop were manipulated like paper
[01:39] <cwillu> looked really impressive, although it was running on xp :/
[01:39] <HackerX> im almost positve it will work with ether but is it possible to get wireless working? it really bothers me not to have wireless
[01:39] <Awesome-o2000> theres hardly any linux games, this is a bummer
[01:39] <anzio_> !hcfpcimodem
[01:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about hcfpcimodem
[01:39] <Awesome-o2000> and cedega blows a gigantic goat
[01:39] <anzio_> !rockwell
[01:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about rockwell
[01:39] <jrib> foiker: go to totem's preferencs and change something, then see if the file exists afterwards
[01:39] <ynef> cwillu: was that the one where they didn't have file names, so you were supposed to look at each and every Word document until you found the one you needed? pass!
[01:40] <SonicChao> HackerX: why does it bother you?
[01:40] <Dr4g> Anyone ever had the problem - of booting up live-desktop-cd.. and it start crashing while loading the GUI up to click "install"
[01:40] <Dr4g> -
[01:40] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: There are loads of the kind I like, that is simple little puzzles and gravity game type things
[01:40] <foiker> jrib: thankz...:)
[01:40] <FCTE> Unreal Tournament 2004, Quake and Doom all run natively
[01:40] <dave__> can anyone help me ive got a weird problem with firefox on xubuntu, it keeps closing itself when opening bit-tech.net :-S
[01:40] <Awesome-o2000> not to mention im not exactly stoked on the concept of being considered a know nothing douchebag again
[01:40] <polpak> Awesome-o2000: wine is pretty good for some things (blizzard & other openGL games) and most FPS's run native
[01:40] <fyrestrtr> hey, tuxracer > *
[01:40] <cwillu> ynef: I was assuming that served the same purpose as the 1024x1024 icons on the demo mac osx desktops
[01:40] <Warbo> I found out about Enigma the other day, it's pretty cool
[01:40] <FCTE> tux kart :)
[01:40] <Awesome-o2000> polpak, no, they DONT run native anymore. I am SO po'd about ArmyOps
[01:40] <foiker> still no totem_config file
[01:40] <ynef> dave__: do you have any extensions and plugins (flash, for instance) installed? flash in particular crashes firefox ever so often
[01:40] <polpak> Awesome-o2000: well, not knowing stuff can be fixed. The other part... well.. ;p
[01:41] <Awesome-o2000> polpak, so far the only native ones I can run are ut2004 and et
[01:41] <HackerX> well wireless came out so i wouldnt have to be teather tethered to line and about 90% of the time im no wheres near a line
[01:41] <HackerX> ah
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> et?
[01:41] <dave__> yeh got flash installed, tabmix plus, and noir theme
[01:41] <FCTE> I've had no success with wine :(
[01:41] <polpak> Awesome-o2000: all the ID ones work, as does Savage and Savage 2
[01:41] <jrib> foiker: weird, maybe it's only for totem-xine
[01:41] <FCTE> I used Cedega for a while
[01:41] <FCTE> and it was pretty stable
[01:41] <Awesome-o2000> polpak, Ive been working on the other part for years. 5 years of therapy and im angrier than when I started. Yay therapy.
[01:41] <jrib> foiker: what are you trying to do?
[01:41] <HackerX> I mean it is a laptop
[01:41] <ynef> dave__: you might try to disable flash then, or install that NoFlash extension -- see if that helps
[01:41] <SonicChao> HackerX: lol, I actually prefer the cable, but you can try installing Network Manager in Add/Remove
[01:41] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: I have run Quake 1 2 and 3 and Gish natively. Doom3 and above won't run on my PC
[01:41] <foiker> jrib: think so...And totem-gstreamer *sucks* in documentation
[01:41] <polpak> Awesome-o2000: and vendetta online is a pretty fun native space combat game
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> WoW works reasonably well with wine/cedega ... as long as you don't have an ATI video card
[01:42] <Awesome-o2000> FCTE, stable? sure. it gives me 1/4 the performance of windows and games play like excrement
[01:42] <FCTE> I have Nvidia 6800
[01:42] <dave__> noflash, that off mozilla site yeh? ynef
[01:42] <jrib> foiker: any reason you don't use totem-xine instead?
[01:42] <foiker> jrib: I'm trying to change the codepage for my subtitles so it can be shown properly in totem
[01:42] <polpak> Awesome-o2000: what video card do you use?
[01:42] <Awesome-o2000> I need a realistic FPS game
[01:42] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: play paintball :)
[01:42] <HackerX> well yea i love cable to cuz thats the way it always was but now laptop and wireless is the best and being that im never around a cat5 line its just better
[01:42] <ynef> dave__: yeah, hit "download more extensions" or whatever that link is called in the Extensions window -- search for it and you should find it
[01:42] <FCTE> I had no problems with Half-Life 2 or Battlefield 2
[01:42] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: Check out Doomsday if you have any DOOM 1 or 2 WADs
[01:42] <HackerX> Thanks ill try tht
[01:42] <HackerX> that
[01:42] <foiker> jrib: It came with the installation gstreamer I mean....I'll give it a try right now....the situation is driving me mad
[01:42] <Awesome-o2000> polpak, I have an nvidia 6800gs 512mb agp
[01:42] <ynef> dave__: could have been flash block as well... you'll figure it out
[01:43] <Ng> FCTE: does battlefield2 work in cedega?
[01:43] <SonicChao> HackerX: I use Cat5 on my laptop, but for Wireless Networks, Network Manager usually helps
[01:43] <FCTE> occasionaslly the sky would go black, that's about it
[01:43] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, I havent played doom since before the turn of the century
[01:43] <FCTE> BF2 worked for me
[01:43] <PingunZ> hi, is there a command to know if you have hda, sda, ... ?
[01:43] <dave__> ynef, flashblock?
[01:43] <FCTE> sorry I'm newb to irc, don't know how to answer directly :(
[01:43] <ynef> dave__: sounds good -- what does it do?
[01:44] <polpak> FCTE: just prefix with the persons name
[01:44] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: Doomsday is a FLOSS engine for Doom, with particle effects, 3D environments, high-res textures, fire, liquid, etc. It's a hell of a lot better than Quake3, but I have not played Doom 3 so I don't know about that
[01:44] <Ng> FCTE: interesting :)
[01:44] <SonicChao> FCTE: Press the first few letters and press "Tab" and it will autocomplete
[01:44] <meowmix> How do I get the extra back and forward buttons on my mouse to work?  It's a Belkin, infrared, about 5 years old.
[01:44] <jrib> foiker: oh, I've never messed with subtitles.  You'd probably have better luck with something like mplayer or xine though (even if it's just in the ability to google for help).  totem-xine is the same as the totem you have now except the backend is xine instead of gstreamer.  If you want totem-xine, just enable universe, and install totem-xine package
[01:44] <ynef> FCTE: type part of the other guy's user name, hit tab and see if your client doesn't add it for you
[01:44] <HackerX> ok ill give that i shot i was just suprised as hell when i seen it even found my wireless card. i planed on trying to use that deal where you can use windows drivers on a linux platform
[01:44] <jrib> !mouse > meowmix
[01:44] <Awesome-o2000> doom3 has great graphics and fecal gameplay
[01:44] <FCTE> ynef, thanks :)
[01:44] <dave__> ynef, blocks flash
[01:44] <meowmix> !firefoxicon > meowmix
[01:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about firefoxicon
[01:44] <Awesome-o2000> however i may be forced to stick to idsoftware games because they have linux clients
[01:44] <ynef> dave__: then that sounds good to me :)
[01:44] <SonicChao> HackerX: If it doesn't work just tell me
[01:44] <fyrestrtr> the only thing that could run doom3 in my possession was the xbox.
[01:45] <foiker> jrib: thankz for the help mate :)
[01:45] <PingunZ>  is there a command to know if you have hda, sda, ... ?
[01:45] <dave__> unef, but wot if i look at a flash site? doh
[01:45] <FCTE> Cedega is definitely not worth $5 a month that's for sure. They also fudged how much it supports and it's ease of use
[01:45] <dave__> *ynef
[01:45] <Hobbsee> PingunZ: sudo fdisk -l
[01:45] <PingunZ> ty ;)
[01:45] <Warbo> PingunZ: "ls /dev/?da" ?
[01:45] <meowmix> xchat is weird
[01:45] <FCTE> FRame rates are not equal either
[01:45] <Awesome-o2000> yeah im cancelling my subscription and getting my money back. What a total POS cedega is
[01:45] <HackerX> alright i havent installed yet because i wanted to see if i could get it to work im opening that right now ill let you know in a min
[01:45] <ynef> dave__: you'll get a "play" icon you can click on (actually a flash movie with a play button) -- once you do, the original movie is loaded instead
[01:45] <SonicChao> meowmix: You can say that again, that's why I use Konversation :P
[01:45] <Awesome-o2000> if they dont refund my money i'll just cancel the payment through the bank
[01:46] <meowmix> :-P
[01:46] <dave__> ynef, why does firefox have a prob with flash? :S
[01:46] <FCTE> I'm stuck with XP lingering for a while. :(
[01:46] <Heda> is there a way to totally restart the usb system without restarting the entire box ?
[01:46] <meowmix> I'll have to check that out
[01:46] <SonicChao> meowmix: It's right in "Add/Remove"
[01:46] <meowmix> I thought there'd at least be a user list
[01:46] <Awesome-o2000> its a crying shame transgaming advertises their product as functional when its obviously a turd of a product
[01:46] <polpak> FCTE: the biggest problem I have with cedega is that unlike wine their business model seems to conflict with good deisgn goals
[01:46] <Warbo> Heda: Use lsmod to see the loaded modules, then rmmod them and modprobe them back
[01:46] <meowmix> okie
[01:46] <FCTE> Heda, try reinstallling hotplug
[01:46] <ynef> dave__: it doesn't -- it's the flash plugin that sucks. the same site that crashes when you visit it in firefox, will crash if you go there with mozilla or konqueror or anything else that uses the same plugin
[01:46] <HackerX> i want the Knetwork Manager correct?
[01:47] <SonicChao> meowmix: Go to "internet" and Scroll down 'till you see a K. Than find Konversation
[01:47] <SonicChao> HackerX: Yes
[01:47] <HackerX> k
[01:47] <Heda> cool - cheers will try that if i get the same problem again
[01:47] <wildman> hello *
[01:47] <dave__> ynef, ah right, is there any kinda workaround going on about that, doh
[01:47] <ranok> hi
[01:47] <FCTE> polpak, I was very unsuccessful with getting games in wine, but successful with cedega, it was an ok program, it would be a great program for free, but not at a monthly fee. It does not support enough and you are really stuck tweaking it a lot.
[01:48] <polpak> FCTE: wine is slowly but surely implementing the win32 api bug for bug.  Whereas cedega just fixes their code to get the latest/most popular games working (often at the expense of previous games)
[01:48] <SonicChao> wildman: Hello, what seems to be the problem?
[01:48] <dave__> ynef, is it worth uninstalling the flash plugin in synaptic
[01:48] <ynef> dave__: none than I know, although IIRC macromedia/adobe will release a new version of the plugin in the future
[01:48] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: Any non-free program on Linux works a little dodgily. FLOSS can be packaged properly, integrated with themes and toolkits, etc. Also a lot of non-free stuff I have doesn't even use ALSA, since they have to aim for compatibility with older systems/distros
[01:48] <ynef> dave__: that seems a bit drastic -- see if flashblock does the trick first
[01:48] <foiker> grrr just installed xine and now I cant see any divx xvid or any other typeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[01:48] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, theres nothing dodgy about it. If it was dodgy it would work if set up properly. Cedega is simply not a good emulator.
[01:49] <dave__> ynef, well it aint crashed yet so we'll see! lol
[01:49] <jrib> If I don't have nautilus draw my desktop in GNOME, what could I use instead?
[01:49] <Awesome-o2000> and yes, cedega and wine ARE emulators.
[01:49] <polpak> foiker: install the restriced formats codecs
[01:49] <FCTE> polpak, many people downloaded cedega thinking it worked right out of the box running everything and they found the truth out quickly, only a few games are four stars in their list
[01:49] <cwillu> KenSentMe: still there?  I'm having a bit more luck
[01:49] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: Maybe because WINE Is Not an Emulator?
[01:49] <ynef> jrib: thunar from xfce or rox, if you enjoy painfully ugly icons
[01:49] <reiki> trying to configure a wireless access point without having to reboot to windows. Can't remember IP of access point. Is there an app that will tell me what's on the LAN?
[01:49] <FCTE> polpak, Call of Duty was a no go
[01:49] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, wine is not an emulator and nixon was not a crook.
[01:49] <ticki> bye bye everyone. thanks for your help
[01:50] <fyrestrtr> reiki: are you connected to it now?
[01:50] <foiker> polpak: the name of the package is ?
[01:50] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: You obviously don't use emulators every day like I do. WINE is NOT an emulator
[01:50] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: it technically isn't;  the binaries are running normal x86 code, and they're calling normal libraries
[01:50] <ticki> bye gijoe, thanks mate. ;-)
[01:50] <dave__> also can anyone help me with getting samba to work properly so i can see my windoze shares?
[01:50] <Warbo> If WINE was an emulator then you wouldn't need to run it through Qemu on PPC
[01:50] <reiki> fyrestrtr, the access point is connected to the LAN, but I am not connected to it wirelessly. I'm on a desktop
[01:50] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, wine is a windows emulator, regardless of its claims. Its entire purpose is to run windows programs.
[01:50] <dave__> cheers ynef :0
[01:50] <dave__> :)
[01:50] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: it _is_ a reimplementation via reverse engineering, which has it's problems, but it's not an emulation :)
[01:50] <fyrestrtr> dave__: Places -> Connect to Server... <-- try this first.
[01:50] <polpak> !restricted > foiker
[01:50] <Awesome-o2000> if I wrote a program who's entire purpose was to run atari 2600 programs it would be a 2600 emulator
[01:51] <foiker> !restricted
[01:51] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:51] <meowmix> !stop_retyping_password > meowmix
[01:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about stop_retyping_password
[01:51] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: you can (and people do) compile against wine libs instead of the windows one's :)
[01:51] <Awesome-o2000> even if wine goes about it in a different way - it is STILL an emulator.
[01:51] <polpak> Awesome-o2000: no
[01:51] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: An emulator makes a computer in software. A "Windows emulator" would be ReactOS, since that is an OS and WINE isn't
[01:51] <fyrestrtr> reiki: you could ping the broadcast address and see who responds ... or you could try the defaults. Linksys defaults to 192.168.1.1 for example.
[01:51] <Awesome-o2000> polpak, yes.
[01:51] <dave__> fyrestrtr, i dont have places, im on xubuntu so that not built in
[01:51] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: likewise, cygwin isn't an emulator either, it's an implementation of the unix api
[01:51] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: no.  Implementation of an api does not an emulator make
[01:51] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, an emulator runs programs meant for another operating system or hardware setup.
[01:52] <polpak> Awesome-o2000: you're redefining (wrongly) the word emulator just to suit what you think it means
[01:52] <FCTE> Wine emulates a Windows environment.
[01:52] <Awesome-o2000> wine is an emulator
[01:52] <Ng> wine is not an emulator ;)
[01:52] <reiki> fyrestrtr, ok dumb question... long time away from network stuff...broadcast address for 192.168.254.x network?
[01:52] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: Exactly. Run WINE on another system. Have you run WINE on M68K, PPC, MIPS, ARM?
[01:52] <Awesome-o2000> polpak, on the contrary - the WINE developers redefine the word emulator
[01:52] <fyrestrtr> reiki: if that's the subnet you are on, then yes.
[01:52] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: Would you count AROS as an emulator then?
[01:53] <ynef> reiki: depends on network submask, but I'm going to guess that it's 192.168.254.255
[01:53] <reiki> fyrestrtr, no... I meant what would be the broadcast address? :)
[01:53] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, i'd have to know what that is
[01:53] <reiki> ahhh... answered
[01:53] <fyrestrtr> reiki: 255 is always the broadcast address.
[01:53] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: the pedantic definition of emulator is quite useless, because it would also mean amd is an emulation of intel, and a word processor is an emulation of a type writer :)
[01:53] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: aros.org. It runs AmigaOS programs on M68K, but when run on x86 or PPC it can't run them
[01:53] <dave__> cos thunar on xubuntu doesnt seem to handle samba stuff
[01:53] <fyrestrtr> dave__: you can always use smbmount from the cli
[01:53] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, what a fecal emulator
[01:54] <ticki> hi. i' m here again. How can i add a new screen resolution? i have modified the file and when i rebooted i said: Uknown Frequency or Frequency not supported (something of the like)....
[01:54] <neopsyche> hello
[01:54] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: Yes, it would be quite pathetic if they were trying to actually make an emulator
[01:54] <Awesome-o2000> at least xmame runs on different os
[01:54] <neopsyche> im having problems with my mouse configuration
[01:54] <fyrestrtr> ticki: your monitor doesn't support that resolution at the refresh rates you have setup for it.
[01:54] <neopsyche> its a ps2 mouse
[01:54] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, yes, it is pathetic.
[01:54] <Netcad> say there is a line in the format token1-token2 token3-token4-token5. how to replace the - characters only between token3 token4 and token5?
[01:54] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: UAE can emulate an Amiga COMPUTER, but not the OS. AROS is a replacement OS
[01:54] <neopsyche> sorry... correction .. a serial mouse
[01:54] <ticki> fyrestrtr: but i use 1280 x 1024 under windows.
[01:54] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, thats nice.
[01:54] <dave__> fyrestrtr, so i just wud type smbmount and then my computer name and share name?
[01:55] <ticki> fyrestrtr: and ubutu only give me upto 1024
[01:55] <neopsyche> tried configuring in xorg but its still not working
[01:55] <fyrestrtr> dave__: don't remember the exact syntax, try man smbmount
[01:55] <neopsyche> could someone help me?
[01:55] <dave__> righto cheers mate
[01:55] <fyrestrtr> ticki: what video card is it?
[01:55] <neopsyche> S3
[01:55] <neopsyche> oh msg to ticki
[01:55] <ticki> fyrestrtr: it's an onboard card with my Intel Mobo.
[01:55] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, #  Computer Science. To imitate the function of (another system), as by modifications to hardware or software that allow the imitating system to accept the same data, execute the same programs, and achieve the same results as the imitated system.
[01:55] <Awesome-o2000> aint that a bitch.
[01:55] <FCTE> ticki, you have to change your xorg.conf
[01:55] <wildman> SonicChao: euh... no pb, just being polite ;)
[01:56] <reiki> fyrestrtr, weird... pinging broadcast address gets no response. Might be because I'm all switches and not hubs?
[01:56] <fyrestrtr> ticki: hrmm, could be that the resolution you want isn't supported by the drivers -- but I suspect the real reason is that your monitor's refresh rates aren't configured correctly.
[01:56] <ticki> FCTE: i think i have edited that. i did what it said in the ubuntu manual.
[01:56] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: Then WINE, ReactOS and AROS are grey areas then
[01:56] <FCTE> ticki, did you remove everything other than 1280 x 1024 in each category?? THat is what I had to do
[01:56] <fyrestrtr> reiki: what is your broadcast?
[01:56] <ticki> fyrestrtr: how can i check the frequency? it is a standard monitor (CRT 19 inches)
[01:57] <reiki> fyrestrtr, hmmm... maybe ping the MAC address of the access point?
[01:57] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, theyre as grey as xmame.
[01:57] <andyjeffries> Anyone out there experienced in getting Xgl/compiz working?  I'm willing to paypal someone 10 to help me get it working (I've tried following every Ubuntu tutorial/howto I can find on it).  I'm on a fast PC/connection so it shouldn't take long if you're an expert in Xgl/Compiz (I'm an nvidia user)
[01:57] <fyrestrtr> reiki: no, you can't ping mac addresses
[01:57] <polpak> !xgl
[01:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:57] <reiki> fyrestrtr, I did ping -b 192.168.254.255
[01:57] <ticki> FCTE: nope, i added 1280.
[01:57] <Gorlist> hi, are their any plugins to allow me to watch .wma and quicktime movies?
[01:57] <neopsyche> can someone please help me with xorg conf re: my mouse isnt moving
[01:57] <neopsyche> *cursor
[01:57] <Warbo> Anyway
[01:57] <polpak> !restricted > Gorlist
[01:57] <Warbo> !offtopic
[01:57] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:57] <FCTE> ticki, go back into you xorg.conf and make sure everything is 1280x1024, delete all others
[01:58] <fyrestrtr> reiki: is that your broadcast? check ifconfig to find your broadcast address.
[01:58] <neopsyche> Gorlist.. Try VIDEO LAN CODEC VLC
[01:58] <Warbo> VideoLAN Client
[01:58] <neopsyche> videolan.org
[01:58] <Warbo> :)
[01:58] <Gorlist> thanks!
[01:58] <ticki> FCTE: thanks , i will try that.
[01:58] <fyrestrtr> !restrictedformats > Gorlist
[01:58] <edgy> KenSentMe: I just figured out that a cron script shouldn't have a "." in its name in case you are interested ;)
[01:58] <polpak> Gorlist: you can use the normal video player.. you just need the restricted codecs
[01:58] <neopsyche> warbo.,. do you know how i can fix my xorg mouse settings?
[01:58] <FCTE> ticki, no problem, do it for every section
[01:58] <reiki> fyrestrtr,  Bcast:192.168.254.255
[01:58] <edgy> KenSentMe: or in case some one asked the same question here
[01:58] <polpak> Gorlist: you don't need to install VLC, though you can if you like
[01:58] <Warbo> neopsyche: Nope, sorry
[01:59] <neopsyche> edgy .. do you know how i can fix my mouse ?
[01:59] <FCTE> ticki, It did the same thing to me and I have a Nvidia 6800
[01:59] <reiki> fyrestrtr, and there are other devices running that should also be responding
[01:59] <neopsyche> xorg settings
[01:59] <ticki> FCTE: at the moment, what i have for every sections is: Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[01:59] <neopsyche> FCTE? do you know how i can fix my mouse settings?
[01:59] <fyrestrtr> reiki: maybe icmp echo is blocked on your network.
[01:59] <HackerX> Alright, heres what i get now its hangs 28% (Configuring device) and then after about a min it says disconnnected and trys again
[01:59] <edgy> neopsyche: I see there an update to the xserver-mouse today did you install it?
[01:59] <FCTE> ticki, delete everything other than 1280x1024, that will solve the problem
[01:59] <meowmix> i made the changes !mouse said to, but now it won't let me save "xorg.conf", it says I don't have permissions.
[02:00] <reiki> fyrestrtr, I have no idea WHERE that would be blocked on the LAN. I didn't block it anywhere that I can remember
[02:00] <polpak> meowmix: you need to edit it with sudo
[02:00] <fyrestrtr> meowmix: you need to edit it as a superuser (with sudo)
[02:00] <ticki> FCTE: ok. and what if other user want to use a lower resolution?
[02:00] <FCTE> neopsyche, what kind of mouse?
[02:00] <fyrestrtr> reiki: you are the lan administrator?
[02:00] <meowmix> how to i make it ask my password?
[02:00] <neopsyche> its a microsoft wheelmouse serial
[02:00] <reiki> fyrestrtr, yeah... it's my house! :)
[02:00] <neopsyche> 1.1A serial compatable
[02:00] <fyrestrtr> ticki: you can leave all your resolutions in there and use ctrl+alt+numpad - and numpad + to cycle through them.
[02:00] <Tomasz> HI ALL
[02:00] <neopsyche> need to edit xorg.conf
[02:01] <fyrestrtr> ticki: it will default to the first resolution listed.
[02:01] <FCTE> ticki, i guess you can change it later
[02:01] <neopsyche> thats what i did last time but cant remember commands
[02:01] <HackerX> you there?
[02:01] <fyrestrtr> reiki: well heck .. lol
[02:01] <FCTE> ticki, but if you want to get the 1280x1024 you have to remove all the other listings and add in the 1280x1024 in every category
[02:01] <dmitri> Hey all...got a wacky one here with installing AC '97 modem on m x31 running latest Dapper - can anyone help please?
[02:01] <ticki> fyrestrtr: i didn' t understand the CTRL+ALT+NUMPAD thing
[02:02] <meowmix> polpak: how do i edit xorg.conf with sudo?  i browsed to it and double clicked it, and it opened in gedit
[02:02] <ticki> fyrestrtr: got it.. thanks..
[02:02] <fyrestrtr> ticki: when you are in X, you can cycle through the screen resolutions by hitting ctrl+alt and then the - or + keys on the numeric keypad (numpad)
[02:02] <reiki> fyrestrtr, simple LAN setup inside a DSL modem/router combo. But I don't use hubs anywhere. Does BCast go through switches?
[02:02] <monomaniacpat> how do you get usb game pads working in ubuntu?
[02:02] <fyrestrtr> meowmix: type gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf from the terminal
[02:02] <alfred> has anyone had trouble with dual or triple network cards switching positions?  Like one boot card #1 is eth0 and the next it is eth3
[02:03] <jrib> !dialup > dmitri
[02:03] <meowmix> i thought you didn't have to type stuff like that in ubuntu :(
[02:03] <ticki> fyrestrtr: by if i remove everything other than 1280 as suggested by FCTE, i don ' think i will be able to do that.
[02:03] <neopsyche> I changed my resolution to 1024x768 and now no more mouse working
[02:03] <monomaniacpat> can anyone help me please?
[02:03] <HackerX> my wireless device is found but wont connect any ideas?
[02:03] <fyrestrtr> ticki: you are right, because there will be only one resolution listed :)
[02:03] <dmitri> yes
[02:03] <fyrestrtr> reiki: not sure about that, but it should.
[02:03] <monomaniacpat> HackerX: try using different encryption
[02:03] <HackerX> different?
[02:04] <HackerX> hmm
[02:04] <FCTE> ticki, that's the route I took becaue I do not need any other resolutions :)
[02:04] <ticki> fyrestrtr: the problem is when i add 1280, it breaks... anyway, i will try to do what FCTE suggested as see how it works.
[02:04] <reiki> fyrestrtr, I would think it would have to... hmmm... I wonder if arpwatch would find the IP based on the MAC
[02:04] <fyrestrtr> reiki: an easy way to figure this out would be to turn on your wireless radio and see what it picks up as the AP
[02:04] <fyrestrtr> ticki: adjust your horizontal and vertical refresh rates.
[02:04] <ticki> FCTE: i don' t need anyother res. either.. because it is only me here... but i was just wondering..
[02:04] <monomaniacpat> HackerX: say plain instead of hex
[02:04] <fyrestrtr> ticki: they are not correct for your monitor, look them up on the web and then adjust your xorg file. Don't guess these numbers, as wrong values may damage your monitor.
[02:05] <FCTE> ticki, if you need to change it to something else, just do the same, remove the 1280x1024 and put in the new resolution :)
[02:05] <reiki> fyrestrtr, I'm on a desktop box... no wireless on here
[02:05] <HackerX> sorry to say and i know i will get flamed for this but i live in the middle of no where i really couldnt care less if somone used my netowrk cuz im not very close to the road anyways so i have zero encryption
[02:05] <ticki> fyrestrtr: ok.. i will look that up
[02:05] <ticki> but can i do that fort every different res.?
[02:05] <fyrestrtr> ticki: FCTE you can also change the resolution from within gnome itself.
[02:06] <fyrestrtr> system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[02:06] <HackerX> any ideas now?
[02:06] <wilburt> hi
[02:06] <ticki> fyrestrtr: yes. but it doesn't  list 1280
[02:06] <ticki> and when i try to add it, it breaks.
[02:06] <FCTE> fyrestrtr, where at? I used to be able to mess around with my Nvidia settings in Breezy, but when the drivers are installed in Dapper they are nowhere to be found
[02:06] <fyrestrtr> ticki: that's because it reads the xorg file and only lists what you have there.
[02:06] <monomaniacpat> can any tell me how to get usb gamepads working?!
[02:06] <ticki> well, breaks.. i never starts with that unsupported freq.
[02:06] <neopsyche> does anyone know how to get a dialin server working?
[02:07] <ticki> fyrestrtr: yes, i know.
[02:07] <fyrestrtr> ticki: what monitor do you have?
[02:07] <HackerX> ...
[02:07] <ticki> viewsonic e90f+ (19 inches CRT)
[02:07] <neopsyche> in WInDoZE u just select dialin server option on .. and it lets people dialup to your pc.. shared folders etc.
[02:07] <HackerX> i guess not
[02:08] <HackerX> hmm anyone else know?
[02:08] <wilburt> hi I have a question, i tried installing ubuntu before but didnt go well :\ partitions sorta messd me up, anywho im going to do it again but im wondering should i just let the installer do it for me or use partition magic to do it? thanks
[02:08] <Awesome-o2000> tich, viewsonic g810 and a benq fp91G+ here
[02:08] <Gorlist> how can I convert a B5T image to iso or something?
[02:08] <Awesome-o2000> god damnit
[02:08] <Awesome-o2000> ticki, I mean
[02:08] <FCTE> wilburt, do you need the drive for anything else?
[02:08] <wilburt> FCTE: well its the family pc so Il need a dual boot
[02:08] <HackerX> ...!
[02:09] <ticki> Awesome-o2000: is that LCD?
[02:09] <lasindi> Hi all, I have a program that I need to be run by a CGI script on my webserver. The program technically requires X to run (i.e. it produces errors if it can't access the X server), but it doesn't actually open any windows and as soon as it's done running, it quits. Is there a way to trick this program into thinking an X server is there, or have it actually access the X server that's running?
[02:09] <Awesome-o2000> ticki, one is one isnt
[02:09] <FCTE> wilburt, oh, I have no dual booting experience that didn't go horribly
[02:09] <meowmix> is it supposed to keep asking me for my password?
[02:09] <ticki> Awesome-o2000: yeah..i  have no idea about hardware.. ;-)
[02:10] <wilburt> FCTE: well last time i tried installing it i formatted my hd :\
[02:10] <KenSentMe> wilburt: but it's best that before you run the installer you have a free partition that ubuntu can use
[02:10] <idefix__> how can you copy e-mails from a webbased client into evolution mail?
[02:10] <meowmix> !password > meowmix
[02:10] <Awesome-o2000> ticki, behold my glory.
[02:10] <cypher_> lasindi: wont redirecting error /dev/null a possibility here ?
[02:10] <FCTE> wilburt, everytime I have attempted dual booting grub eats my Windows partition.
[02:10] <fyrestrtr> ticki: your monitor's refresh rates are 30-86 H, and 50-180 V -- set these in xorg and your resolution should work.
[02:10] <HackerX> Ubuntu found my wireless device but it wont connect... any ideas?
[02:10] <neopsyche> is there a lighter version of gui on ubuntu other than gnome?
[02:10] <wilburt> KenSentMe: ok cool thanks :)
[02:11] <wilburt> FCTE: aww :( so what do you do? just run ubuntu on its own?
[02:11] <cypher_> HackerX: by wireless device you mean your AP right ?
[02:11] <FCTE> neopsyche, try xbuntu
[02:11] <Nameeater> fluxbox, or there is that other one or two, fvwm perhaps
[02:11] <Frogzoo> FCTE: that's very unusual - could you upgrade your bios perhaps?
[02:11] <KenSentMe> idefix__: what client do you use?
[02:11] <neopsyche> can i run xbuntu from ubuntu?
[02:11] <Awesome-o2000> neopsyche, youll like xubuntu - its very nice
[02:11] <neopsyche> my pc only has 64megs ram thats why im asking
[02:11] <FCTE> wilburt, i do it ghetto with two drives, i just unconnect/reconnect LOL
[02:11] <HackerX> No, sorry my wireless card in my laptop
[02:11] <Nameeater> xubuntu-desktop is the package to install
[02:11] <wilburt> FCTE: old school ftw :)
[02:11] <lasindi> cypher_: no because the program actually quits because of the error. To be specific, I'm trying to run OpenOffice.org macros from the script. Works fine with X, but I never see a window pop up. I just need it to run without ever trying to access X.
[02:11] <ticki> fyrestrtr: right now what i have is: 28-51H, 43-60V
[02:12] <neopsyche> ok.. how do i switch between boots?
[02:12] <ticki> fyrestrtr: may I know where you get that info. i would like to check it.
[02:12] <fyrestrtr> ticki: might want to adjust those
[02:12] <neopsyche> if i wan to boot into xubuntu .. does this mean it will boot every time?
[02:12] <fyrestrtr> ticki: the all mighty Google
[02:12] <ticki> fyrestrtr: link?
[02:12] <Frogzoo> FCTE: have you tried setting the master/slave jumpering on the drives?
[02:12] <fyrestrtr> ticki: google.com :P
[02:12] <FCTE> Frogzoo, I dunno, my board is only a year old, I think it's the placement of grub in the MBR that FUBAR's my chances of dual booting
[02:12] <Nameeater> neopsyche: you can choose it at the login screen, or change it in a config file
[02:12] <fyrestrtr> ticki: http://www.viewsonic.com.au/support/manuals/download.php?id=54
[02:13] <Frogzoo> FCTE: but that's what grub does best... usually
[02:13] <Awesome-o2000> neopsyche, no, you must find the sparrow king to boot in xubuntu
[02:13] <FCTE> Frogzoo, my jumpers are set straight
[02:13] <meowmix> i can't find imwheel in synaptic to get my extra mouse buttons working
[02:13] <Frogzoo> FCTE: ide or sata? LBA set in the bios?
[02:13] <neopsyche> cool.
[02:13] <ticki> fyrestrtr: haha. thanks, i was reading the same file.
[02:14] <HackerX> _____ok Ubuntu=Found Wireless card Wireless card=Wont connect ANY IDEAS???
[02:14] <FCTE> I dunno I rarely ever use my windows drive except for the ocasional game so I have no problem with the way it is now
[02:14] <cypher_> sorry got dc'ed
[02:14] <ticki> fyrestrtr: but from the google cache.
[02:14] <FCTE> Frogzoo, PATA
[02:14] <cypher_> HackerX: paste your iwconfig output
[02:14] <cypher_> HackerX: run iwconfig as root
[02:14] <lasindi> cypher_: ah, did you get my reply?
[02:15] <cypher_> lasindi: yes sorry
[02:15] <HackerX> HUH? sorry im slightly new to this what is the iwconfig?
[02:15] <cypher_> lasindi: i dont think i have any answers to that sorry
[02:15] <Yogarine> good morning
[02:15] <FCTE> Frogzoo, I haven't messed with the BIOS other than to make sure it sees everything and set my boot selection.
[02:15] <lasindi> cypher_: ok, thanks anyway
[02:15] <cypher_> HackerX: it is similar to ifconfig but for wireless
[02:16] <HackerX> and where would i locate this?
[02:16] <k31th> hey, the windows resizer for dapper how long does it normally take ?
[02:16] <cypher_> lasindi: i have not run much cgi other than small things :)
[02:16] <cwillu> anybody know of any way to take the output of a program that thinks its talking to, say, an epson, or an hp4, and convert that to an arbitrary printer (via pdf, or whatever)?
[02:16] <Frogzoo> FCTE: well check you've got LBA mode set next time you're in the bios - but this should just work...
[02:16] <cypher_> HackerX: in a terminal type: sudo iwconfig
[02:16] <idefix__> KenSentMe... I use www.alumnus.utwente.nl
[02:16] <HackerX> ok
[02:16] <wildman> now I do have a question :)
[02:16] <wilburt> cypher_: you the same cypher from UL?
[02:16] <kholerabbi> Could someone please explain how to switch between gtk2 themes (in gnome)?
[02:16] <wildman> ubuntu 6.06 LTS x86_64 here, konversation is the IRC client I'm using
[02:16] <cypher_> wilburt: UL ?
[02:17] <neopsyche> what is the command to install.. sudo .???
[02:17] <lasindi> cypher_: ah, well, I tested it actually by running it as another non-root user while in the same X session and found the results
[02:17] <cwillu> neopsyche: ?
[02:17] <wilburt> cypher_: ok myabe not, University of limerick, must have the same name :)
[02:17] <Nameeater> cwillu: you can get a pdf printer and make the program use that
[02:17] <wilburt> cypher_: sorry
[02:17] <ticki> fyrestrtr: what does this mean? Under "Resolution"  ... " recommended and supported" : it says: "1280 x 1024 @ 75 Hz (VESA)" right bellow the values you told me
[02:17] <cypher_> wilburt: no sorry :)
[02:17] <wildman> I've set Konversation up to display OSD messages when someone writes my name on a message, but am not seeing anything at all, ideas?
[02:17] <neopsyche> want to install xubuntu
[02:17] <KenSentMe> idefix__: i think that's going to be hard to copy, maybe someone on your uni knows a way to export the mail
[02:17] <FCTE> Frogzoo, I'll check it out, also I use two 160GB Samsung standard PATA, one for each OS
[02:17] <Frogzoo> !themes > kholerabbi
[02:17] <cwillu> Nameeater: that's the problem
[02:17] <Yogarine> neopsyche: sudo apt-get install **
[02:17] <dmitri> sorry: badly phrases. I need help with my modem device drivers (Name:  Modem: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem ControllerPCIID:  8086:24C6 1014:0524) for Thinkpadx31. been trying to install via the conexant website and get the error (
[02:17] <dmitri> Note: kernel module snd-via82xx-modem overridden by hsfmc97via
[02:17] <dmitri> Note: kernel module snd-intel8x0m overridden by hsfmc97ich hsfmc97sis
[02:17] <dmitri> Note: kernel module snd-atiixp-modem overridden by hsfmc97ati
[02:17] <dmitri> dpkg: error processing hsfmodem (--install):
[02:17] <dmitri>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 123
[02:17] <ynef> neopsyche: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:17] <dmitri> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:17] <dmitri>  hsfmodem)
[02:17] <neopsyche> thanks
[02:18] <kholerabbi> !changethemes > kholerabbi
[02:18] <cwillu> Nameeater: I need something that can either take epson output, or pcl output, and turn it into anything else
[02:18] <k31th> Hello ???
[02:18] <k31th> hey, the windows resizer for dapper how long does it normally take ?
[02:18] <idefix__> KenSentMe... but reading the mail was possible so my inbox is now in evolution mail
[02:18] <Nameeater> good luck with that :/
[02:18] <cypher_> lasindi: i guess you want a dummy X to make your office macro to work, right ?
[02:18] <ompaul> dmitri, DONT paste, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, thats
[02:18] <ompaul> dmitri, thanks
[02:18] <k31th> ompaul: yo
[02:18] <lasindi> cypher_: preferably not, but I could actually live with that if it would work
[02:18] <ynef> k31th: likely depends on the amount of data on the partition -- completely trashing my harddrive's partitions took about five minutes
[02:18] <dmitri> ok sorry
[02:19] <ompaul> k31th, hello
[02:19] <ompaul> dmitri, you didn't know you do now ;-)
[02:19] <k31th> ynef: i see
[02:19] <neopsyche> can someone please help me configure my mouse?
[02:20] <ubuntu_> i'm newbie in linux can somebody tell me what is the terminal ?
[02:20] <ticki> fyrestrtr: you there?
[02:20] <ompaul> !cli> ubuntu_
[02:20] <cwillu> ubuntu_:  dos prompt'ish thing
[02:20] <ompaul> ubuntu_, read the message from ubotu
[02:20] <ynef> ubuntu_: it's a place where you can type commands, like the old dos prompt
[02:20] <florian__2> hi, is it save to resive and move my root partition and my home partition with gparted live cd or may i have problems afterwards runnung my ubuntu?
[02:21] <Frogzoo> !mouse > neopsyche
[02:21] <ticki> and does anybody know why ubutu uses 1024x768 instead of 1024x800 ? is there a special reason for that.
[02:21] <ynef> florian__2: as long as the partition numbers are the same, it shouldn't be a problem -- otherwise, you should mount your harddrive and edit /etc/fstab to show the changes you've made
[02:21] <Frogzoo> neopsyche: also see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mouse
[02:21] <k31th> ynef: how does it resize ? i mean i asked it to resize it by about half of the partition about 1/4 of it was used
[02:21] <mathieu> ticki: i've never seen 1024x800
[02:21] <KenSentMe> idefix__: i know, but the mail that is still on the webmail is the problem i think
[02:22] <Frogzoo> ticki: the vga standard
[02:22] <ompaul> ticki, standard screen sizes
[02:22] <florian__2> ynef: just edit the fstab, nothing else to do?
[02:22] <ynef> k31th: beats me -- the bugger killed everything on my harddrive when I attempted it... ntfs support is shaky, at best
[02:22] <ticki> oh.. is it? i thought it was 1024x800
[02:22] <ynef> florian__2: well, no, shouldn't be
[02:22] <Hudson_H> hi can someone tell me what i do wrong, i follow the steps on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=%28chroot%29 i made an error in this line sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch i386 breezy /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ so i changed breezy in dapper,but then it says that is is a wrong command?
[02:22] <florian__2> ynef: thank you so much
[02:22] <ticki> you are right.
[02:23] <wildman> I'll shot my question again:
[02:23] <wildman> I've set Konversation up to display OSD messages when someone writes my name on a message, but am not seeing anything at all, ideas?
[02:23] <ticki> ok. i' m gonna restart. let' s see what happens.
[02:23] <Frogzoo> ynef: there's an open bug against qparted's ntfs resizing - it's known to kill ntfs
[02:23] <ticki> one last quetsion, Where can i set the Hz for my screen resolution
[02:24] <ynef> Frogzoo: well, isn't that just lovely? ;) luckily, the computer was brand new, so I didn't lose anything
[02:24] <fyrestrtr> ticki: in xorg.conf
[02:24] <Frogzoo> !fixres > ticki
[02:24] <florian__2> is it possible to boot from an iso cd image with grub?
[02:24] <Frogzoo> ynef: I'm just advertising this little known fact...
[02:24] <k31th> ntfssize from 70  to 40 gigs is that going to take hours ?
[02:24] <ticki> fyrestrtr: yes, but in the viewsonic manual, besides the input signal, it says: 1280 x 1024 @ 75 Hz (VESA)
[02:25] <ynef> Frogzoo: there *really* ought to be more than a slight warning about that...
[02:25] <Hudson_H> k31th: no,but remember to defrag it first
[02:26] <wildman> ticki: if this helps, I had to find the proper horiz and vert (k)hertz settings for X to take the highest possible refresh rate automatically
[02:26] <oskude> ticki, try to find the vertical refresh and horizontal sync rates for you monitor, maybe in its manual or website (pdf)
[02:26] <Frogzoo> ynef: 100% agree: -> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gparted/+bug/48229
[02:26] <wildman> and am at 1280x1024x75hz on my 17''LCD
[02:26] <Hudson_H> hi can someone tell me what i do wrong, i follow the steps on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=%28chroot%29 i made an error in this line sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch i386 breezy /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ so i changed breezy in dapper,but then it says that is is a wrong command?
[02:28] <ticki> wildman and oskude: i have that info but in addition to that, my monitor manual set that about the @75Hz
[02:28] <Hudson_H> ok then i trie something else, Install the ia32-libs and ia32-libs-dev packages,how can i do this on a 64 bit machine?
[02:28] <ticki> I think one this i the Video Sync, and the other one is the Refresh Rate
[02:29] <Frogzoo> ticki: you need to set horizsync & vertrefresh in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, just as the docs mention
[02:29] <wildman> ticki: once I've put the correct horiz and vert refresh rates the monitor went to highest refresh rate (75Hz in my case) _alone_
[02:29] <ticki> wildman: where di you set the 75hz in xorg.conf ?
[02:29] <wildman> ticki: nowhere
[02:29] <ticki> ok. so everything is done automatically
[02:29] <Sub> ticki, you dont put the actual refresh rates in
[02:29] <ticki> ist hat correct?
[02:29] <wildman> ticki: see the _alone_, and automatically in my phrases?
[02:29] <ticki> ok. Cool. just wondering..
[02:29] <wildman> ticki: yes
[02:30] <Hudson_H> how can i install on a 64 bit machine the ia32-libs and ia32-libs-dev packages?
[02:30] <wildman> ticki: provided you set the correct refresh rates for both horiz and vert
[02:30] <ticki> wildman: i was already writting that line when you wrote that.. I read it .. hehe. thanks,
[02:30] <wildman> Hudson_H: apt-get install ....
[02:30] <wildman> ticki: slow reader/writers everywhere (happens here too ;))
[02:30] <wildman> ticki: or should I say "fast"? ;)
[02:31] <Hudson_H> wildman: he won't to,he says it needs wine and thats nog 64bit suportive
[02:31] <ticki> ok.restarting gnome to see how it goes.
[02:32] <wildman> Hudson_H: euh... I think I do have the ia32-libs installed here w/o pbs, however cannot say the same about the ia32-libs-dev one...
[02:32] <p0m> Heya guys. Anyone know which package I need to install to satisfy muine that there's something to play to?
[02:33] <p0m> I've got everything else working, xine with codecs etc.
[02:33] <Frogzoo> p0m: play what?
[02:33] <TLE> any cedega users here ?
[02:33] <p0m> mp3 files right now.
[02:33] <Hudson_H> wildman: i just saw that on http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit there is an ubuntu manual too,just the beginning is not clear to me
[02:33] <p0m> It's telling me there's no decoders.
[02:34] <p0m> I can actually play the file via xine.
[02:35] <wildman> Hudson_H: didn't play with Wine here yet... sorry
[02:35] <CatalinuX> hello everyone
[02:35] <CatalinuX> I installed a server version of ubuntu breezy today. How do I update it to Dapper from the commandline ?
[02:36] <wildman> Hudson_H: euh... which is the part that u don't understand?
[02:36] <Nameeater> CatalinuX:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[02:36] <Hudson_H> CatalinuX: apt-get update
[02:36] <Frogzoo> p0m: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[02:36] <ticki> hi everyone. Here i' m back running 1280x800@75Hz .. hehe
[02:37] <CatalinuX> Hudson_H: Do I have yo to change the sources.list in any way ?
[02:37] <ticki> one question. it doesn' t take the whole screen. there is like a little unsed gap on the four sides.. how cna i fix that?
[02:37] <Hudson_H> wildman: it says i have to go to lib32,but there is no lib32?
[02:37] <Frogzoo> p0m: my guess you're missing gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[02:37] <wildman> Hudson_H: maybe it's /usr/lib32 ?
[02:37] <wildman> Hudson_H: wait plz
[02:37] <p0m> Actually, I've got all those.
[02:38] <p0m> Including ugly.
[02:38] <Nameeater> ticki: with the monitor buttons (usually on the front) ?
[02:38] <wildman> Hudson_H: I do have /usr/lib32 here... so I guess that's where one should go
[02:38] <osfameron> !words
[02:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about words
[02:38] <osfameron> !/usr/dict/words
[02:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about /usr/dict/words
[02:38] <osfameron> bah
[02:38] <wildman> Hudson_H: OTOH, the 'run as *root* part' means u have to prepend 'sudo ' to all commands shown there
[02:38] <ticki> Nameeater: yes, but if i boot windows, I will have to adjust it again.
[02:39] <osfameron> anyone know where /usr/dict/words lives on debuntu?
[02:39] <wildman> Hudson_H: those instructions are not very 'literal' indeed, one has to make a few 'guesses'
[02:39] <p0m> Hm, thanks anyhow Frogzoo.
[02:39] <Hudson_H> wildman: ok but in usr i have a path with lib but not a lib32path
[02:39] <rabbit7_> hey. i have a question about automount. which system is used in dapper. I want to change the umask option, but i dont find any config files
[02:39] <rabbit7_> thanx for your help
[02:39] <Nameeater> ticki: are you sure?
[02:39] <ticki> well. i suppose
[02:39] <HackerX> Ok my wireless card is found but wont connect. i was told to copy and paste my config file on here but im not on laptop that have ubuntu what exactly am i looking for in the config?
[02:39] <ticki> let' s try
[02:39] <Nameeater> you could test it :)
[02:40] <Hudson_H> wildman: pff i need a bether tutorial,i'm to noob to guess a lot
[02:40] <ticki> how will my monitor know i am running ubuntu and not windows?
[02:40] <osfameron> aha, /etc/dictionaries-common/words
[02:40] <osfameron> ubotu: words is see /etc/dictionaries-common/words
[02:40] <plasmoduck> hey
[02:40] <wildman> Hudson_H: I'm giving you the missing bits ;)
[02:40] <plasmoduck> whats hte command to setup my network card with dhcp?>
[02:40] <Nameeater> osfameron: slocate is good too :)
[02:40] <rabbit7_> plasmoduck: sudo dhclient eth0
[02:41] <HackerX> ???
[02:41] <LTjake> hello. i'm running tomcat5 on dapper. i'd like tomcat to be able to write to a particular directory, to whom should it be chown'ed?
[02:41] <rabbit7_> automount anyone ? all i need is a hint :)
[02:41] <Hudson_H> wildman: first of all,how do i get the needet /usr/lib32 with the needet files in?
[02:42] <osfameron> Nameeater: oh, yes - though `slocate words` finds rather a lot of stuff
[02:42] <ticki> Does anybody know how to search in the current folder in Nautilius?
[02:42] <wildman> Hudson_H: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-libs-devel
[02:42] <wildman> Hudson_H: gimme 1', I'll double check the pkg names
[02:42] <Nameeater> slocate dict | grep words ?
[02:42] <HackerX> Ok now im getting slightly irritated!!!
[02:42] <Nameeater> /usr/share/dict/words :)
[02:42] <rabbit7_> automount anyone ? it doesnt seem to be autofs right ???
[02:43] <reaper> HEY! can anyone help me with an onboard sound problem?
[02:43] <wildman> Hudson_H: hmm... I DO have ia32-libs, but synaptic (the graphical pkg manager) doesn't display ia32-libs-devel after a search for 'ia32' in the pkgs names...
[02:43] <MatthewV> rabbit7_, what are you trying to automount?
[02:43] <wildman> Hudson_H: so, I'm not sure where one gets the ia32-libs-devel pkg from...
[02:43] <HackerX> ...
[02:44] <rabbit7_> MatthewV: automount works. i want to change the umask option from 077 to 022
[02:44] <reaper> HEY! can anyone help me with an onboard sound problem?
[02:44] <MatthewV> rabbit7_, edit /etc/fstab ?
[02:44] <Frogzoo> LTjake: www-data at a guess
[02:44] <Hudson_H> wildman: that was the problem i have,but i don't know where he putted the ia32-libs
[02:44] <rabbit7_> MatthewV: It seems like it used to be something like /etc/usbmount/usbmount.conf but thats not installed
[02:44] <MatthewV> reaper, see if you can find what the chipset of your sound is..
[02:44] <rabbit7_> Matthew: usbmount doesnt have any entrys in fstab..
[02:44] <Nameeater> reaper: ask the question, dont ask for help
[02:45] <LTjake> Frogzoo: i'll give it a whirl.
[02:45] <HackerX> Why is it that one person will start to help you and then when you give a respone as to what happen they are no where to be found
[02:45] <osfameron> Nameeater: bah, fair enough :-)
[02:45] <reaper> MatthewV, Nameeater, im on a notebook,
[02:45] <wildman> ia32-libs are in /usr/lib32 Hudson_H....
[02:45] <MatthewV> rabbit7_, so you're trying to change the umask for a usb device?
[02:45] <reaper> MatthewV, Nameeater, i cant seem to get the sound working
[02:45] <rabbit7_> MatthewV: i mean automount, you know when something gets mounted into /media/BLA
[02:45] <Hudson_H> no like i said,have no usr/lib32 path
[02:45] <Nameeater> reaper: what notebook?
[02:45] <reaper> new toshiba P100
[02:45] <reaper> want a specific model?
[02:45] <MatthewV> reaper, try lspci and see if your soundcard is listed.. if so check for some identifier
[02:46] <wildman> Hudson_H: did u 'sudo apt-get install ia32-libs' ?
[02:46] <MatthewV> rabbit7_, ok, I am not too sure then...
[02:46] <LTjake> Frogzoo: no go. dang.
[02:46] <reaper> MatthewV: im a bit nooby, dno what lspci is!
[02:46] <Nameeater> yea, if its very new tho you may be out of luck for a bit :)
[02:46] <Hudson_H> wildman: ok now i found them :-)
[02:46] <rabbit7_> reaper: take a look at lspci
[02:46] <wildman> Hudson_H: cuz if u didn't install ia32-libs u won't have /usr/lib32....
[02:46] <wildman> Hudson_H: ok :)
[02:46] <HackerX> ugh, ok now im pissed...
[02:46] <reaper> rabbit7_: i dno what lspci is!
[02:46] <MatthewV> reaper, from command line (Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal) type in lspci and hit enter
[02:46] <reaper> Nameeater: yeah, its fairly new,
[02:46] <reaper> ok tah
[02:46] <Hudson_H> wildman: i now gonna check those ln -s things
[02:47] <rabbit7_> MatthewV: yeah mean either.. i was looking for some docs how thats done.. cant find any
[02:47] <rabbit7_> MatthewV: must be some app with some config.. question is where and what up :)
[02:47] <wildman> Hudson_H: ok, remember to prepend 'sudo ' to the shown commands....
[02:47] <reaper> MatthewV: i cant find any audio related devices in that?
[02:48] <reaper> is ICH7 something to do with audio?
[02:48] <MatthewV> reaper, paste the output in pastebin
[02:48] <reaper> 7.1 or something?
[02:48] <reaper> ok
[02:48] <HackerX> ***Wireless card found but wont connect any ideas???***
[02:48] <reaper> HackerX: i updated to latest version and it fixed my wifi card not being found
[02:48] <MatthewV> HackerX, you don't need to repeat your question every minute
[02:48] <Hudson_H> wildman: done that now the next step :-)
[02:49] <dstyrk> Hi all.. I am having trouble installing shockwave.
[02:49] <wildman> Hudson_H: good luck! ;)
[02:49] <rabbit7_> reaper: lspci | grep audio
[02:49] <HackerX> MatthewV, you updated to 6.06?
[02:49] <reaper> rabbit7_: ill have a look
[02:49] <MatthewV> HackerX, yes i am on 6.06
[02:50] <Hudson_H> wildman: i need help for the next step, what do i have to put more to that line beside sudo?
[02:50] <crocco> Hello all. I have a small problem with my X. I have everything up as I want it except for one little problem. Everytime I hit <Shift> <Backspace> I restart X(Using compiz, and I think it's got something to do with that).
[02:50] <rabbit7_> reaper: cat /proc/asound/cards
[02:50] <wildman> Hudson_H: 'that line' = which one?
[02:50] <rabbit7_> anyone knows anything about the automount system in dapper ?? which apps are used to do it ?
[02:50] <HackerX> MatthewV, yea so am i... just got it. like i said ubuntu sees my card but wont connect
[02:50] <Hudson_H> wildman: LDFLAGS="-L/lib32 -L/usr/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib32"  ./configure
[02:50] <MatthewV> crocco, its a well-known bug with compiz... maybe someone else knows about it more than i do
[02:50] <wildman> oh, that one is a little tricky
[02:50] <crocco> Anyone that could point me to the right direction how to solve this?
[02:51] <reaper> rabbit7_: 0 [Intel          ] : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[02:51] <reaper>                      HDA Intel at 0xb0000000 irq 58
[02:51] <wildman> Hudson_H: sudo goes just before ./configure
[02:51] <wildman> Hudson_H: LDFLAGS=.... sudo ./configure
[02:51] <MatthewV> HackerX, maybe give network-manager a try
[02:51] <Frogzoo> LTjake: does java security let you write files?
[02:51] <crocco> MatthewV: Thanks. No known work arounds yet?
[02:51] <Hudson_H> ow ok
[02:51] <neopsyche_> OK i got the mouse problem sorted.. thanks for everyones help
[02:51] <neopsyche_> can someone please help me configure a winmodem?
[02:51] <wildman> Hudson_H: FYI: LDFLAGS=bla is an envvar definition, the comand comes after it (sudo ./configure)
[02:51] <MatthewV> crocco, not sure, maybe the folks in #xgl know
[02:51] <rabbit7_> reaper: ur soundcard seems to be installed. you sure its not muted ?
[02:51] <neopsyche_> not sure how exactly to get this one going>!
[02:51] <crocco> MatthewV: Thanks again :)
[02:51] <HackerX> MatthewV, already did stops at 28% (configuring device) and then trys again
[02:51] <reaper> haha how do i check? sorry i am quite the noob
[02:52] <MatthewV> HackerX, I'm not too sure then..
[02:52] <dstyrk> Hi I am new to Ubuntu.. I am trying to install the shockwave plugin for firefox.  Can someone please help
[02:52] <reaper> rabbit7_: nah its at 100%
[02:52] <Hudson_H> wildman: /configure: command not found
 ok thanks
[02:52] <MatthewV> dstyrk, schockwave is actually unavailable for linux
[02:52] <rabbit7_> reaper: can you run alsamixer and unmute the master and pm ?
[02:52] <neopsyche_> anyone know how to configure dialup networking on linux?
[02:52] <MatthewV> dstyrk, there is one possible workaround, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:52] <reaper> rabbit7_: elaborate?
[02:53] <dstyrk> MatthewV:  Ah.  Thank you.
[02:53] <neopsyche_> lol.. macromedia DOES NOT like opensource
[02:53] <MatthewV> dstyrk, no probs :)
[02:53] <neopsyche_> and neither does adobe
[02:53] <rabbit7_> reaper: just enter alsamixer in the console
[02:53] <reaper> kk
[02:53] <MatthewV> neopsyche_, at least we have flash
[02:53] <neopsyche_> can someone please help me configure my modem
[02:53] <HackerX> Ubuntu found my wirless card but wont connect does anyone know what i can do?
[02:53] <wildman> Hudson_H: ./configure, not /configure
[02:54] <reaper> rabbit7_:  seems to be 100% for both
[02:54] <neopsyche_> hmm..
[02:54] <wildman> Hudson_H: see the "." ? it's vey important ;)
[02:54] <Frogzoo> !wifi > HackerX
[02:54] <rabbit7_> reaper: make sure line in and jack are muted
[02:54] <Toma-> HackerX: can you ping your router?
[02:54] <Hudson_H> wildman: i forgeted to copy that . to here,but same error
[02:54] <HackerX> rabbit7_ let me try
[02:54] <neopsyche_> Please can someone help me with my modem
[02:54] <wildman> Hudson_H: euh... in which dir are you standing?, you should be in wine's sources dir
[02:55] <HackerX> Frogzoo, what?
[02:55] <neopsyche_> dial up modem.. not sure how it works on linux
[02:55] <reaper> rabbit7_: it doesnt display linein, im pretty sure this new notebook auto senses the jcaks
[02:55] <reaper> jacks*
[02:55] <wildman> Hudson_H: yes, if you are going to compile a thing by hand, you do have to know how to guess some things ;)
[02:55] <Nameeater> reaper: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/49439
[02:55] <rabbit7_> HackerX: what ubuntu are you running ?
[02:55] <reaper> Nameeater:  thanks il have a look
[02:55] <wildman> Hudson_H: that mini-howto is not really written for total noobies (no pun intended)
[02:55] <finalbeta> !burn dvd
[02:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about burn dvd
[02:56] <rabbit7_> reaper: aplay -l in the konsole
[02:56] <_Zxc_> !alsa
[02:56] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:56] <HackerX> rabbit7_, im running 6.06 desktop
[02:56] <Hudson_H> wildman: wildmandon't wanna compile,but it seems the only way to get wine on a 64 but machine,and i know thats to soon without a good howto
[02:56] <Nameeater> its an already acknowledged bug with those laptops, I pasted the link
[02:57] <Nameeater> for the sound problem
[02:57] <dstyrk> hey can someone point me in the direction of some good background shots?  I only have the defult and don't like em'
[02:57] <reaper> yeah
[02:57] <reaper> thanks Nameeater
[02:57] <fyrestrtr> genaus: gnome-look.org / www.deviantart.com
[02:57] <reaper> it seems like its already a bug, but how long till i can play music!
[02:57] <reaper> ahahha
[02:57] <reaper> 0 [Intel          ] : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[02:57] <reaper>                      HDA Intel at 0xb0000000 irq 58
[02:57] <MatthewV> dstyrk, don't like any in the Sample Files
[02:57] <reaper> im a muso so i will probably have to boot into windows so i can listen!
[02:57] <wildman> Hudson_H: look, ./configure and make commands are used to compile, so yes, it looks like you have to compile wine by hand after doing the proper symlinks (ln -s ...) to have wine find the libs it needs both for compilation and for running
[02:58] <rabbit7_> HackerX: network-manager installed ?
[02:58] <Nameeater> reaper: :( can be a problem with linux and laptops
[02:58] <Frogzoo> HackerX: read ubotu's pm
[02:58] <HackerX> rabbit7_, No i cant ping my router. also it says that its in a loop back if that helps
[02:58] <dstyrk> MatthewV:  The rust colored ones?  Nope.
[02:58] <finalbeta> MatthewV, thnx
[02:58] <reaper> yeah
[02:58] <wildman> Hudson_H: so, the last part of that mini-howto implies:
[02:58] <reaper> i sold my desktop for this laptop.....
[02:58] <MatthewV> dstyrk, i mean in your home folder/Examples
[02:58] <MatthewV> finalbeta, no probs
[02:58] <rabbit7_> HackerX: ifconfig ath0
[02:59] <wildman> Hudson_H: 1) you downloaded and unpacked wine's sources; 2) u r standing on the dir were u've unpacked the sources; 3) u will run all those commands as a regular user (no sudo, but on the last line)
[02:59] <reaper> it scores an extra thousand points in 3dmark 03, and is better overall, and extremely portable. and yeah...... dissappointing, might have to wait a while for it to get sorted
[02:59] <MatthewV> dstyrk, otherwise take a look at art.ubuntu.com and art.gnome.org
[02:59] <rabbit7_> can anyone help me with the automount system ?
[02:59] <Nameeater> reaper: if you go back to windows just keep an eye out and at some point it may work :)
[02:59] <HackerX> ifconfig ath0, device not found
[03:00] <Hudson_H> wildman: i don't see where i should downloaded the wine sources so that wil be the problem
[03:00] <Brunno> my amule is closing itself when i leave it open for a while... (ie: i go to sleep and leave it downloading something, in the morning its closed) anyone can help me ?
[03:00] <rabbit7_> HackerX: what is your wireless device ?? ifconfig
[03:00] <reaper> yeah, Nameeater.... i've always had some sort of problem with linux since i first tryed to install FC3 on my 400Mhz P3.... all well. lucky im gonna give the open source community heaps of chances
[03:00] <wildman> Hudson_H: indeed :)
[03:00] <reaper> i can wait.
[03:01] <wildman> Building Wine on Ubuntu / Kubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake) = Compiling and Installing Wine on ..., Hudson_H
[03:01] <wildman> Hudson_H: so, you already did the libs symlink part, now, plz get wine's sources, unpack them somewhere you have write access too (your home dir, or /tmp); ...
[03:02] <wildman> Hudson_H: ... cd to that dir, and run the commands after "Run configure, build and install with:" exactly as they are shown (no sudo where it doesn't appear, sudo where it does)
[03:02] <wildman> Hudson_H: ok?
[03:02] <Hudson_H> wildman: just apt-get wine-sources then?
[03:02] <HackerX> rabbit7_, when i do ifconfig it doesnt show up but when i goto the network thing its eth1 but i tryed that also no go. i know it found it cuz its in my devices list with full info
[03:02] <wildman> Hudson_H: if you run into further problems, plz check with wine ppl
[03:02] <rabbit7_> automount please anyone ? cant be that magic
[03:02] <Frogzoo> HackerX: if you do 'iwconfig' as long as your drivers setup, you should see the wifi interface
[03:02] <MarkAngels> Hi, I have a dual boot system with Dapper and XP. Just bought an external 500gig usb2 harddrive which has ntfs. Will it be writable if I make it fat32? Is fat32 writing safe?
[03:02] <wildman> Hudson_H: euh... no, I think you have to download the sources from wine's webpage
[03:02] <Trae> nomasteryoda, You awake?
[03:03] <KnowledgEngi> i have installed ubuntu 5.10 now
[03:03] <wildman> Hudson_H: I don't think someone packaged the sources for apt ;)
[03:03] <rabbit7_> HackerX: iwconfig eth1 scan
[03:03] <KnowledgEngi> but before update to new release
[03:03] <Hudson_H> damm
[03:03] <KnowledgEngi> i think that is better update the source.list
[03:03] <KnowledgEngi> is correct?
[03:03] <rabbit7_> HackerX: i mean iwlist eth1 scan
[03:04] <HackerX> rabbit7_, unregonized wireless request "scan"
[03:04] <Brunno> can anyone help me with amule ? its closing randomly when i leave it open for a while...
[03:04] <nyxie> Brunno: have you tried to reinstall aMule?
[03:04] <fyrestrtr> Brunno: check the logs
[03:05] <wildman> Hudson_H: what?
[03:05] <HackerX> rabbit7_, no scan results
[03:05] <Brunno> nyxie, already tried...
[03:05] <rabbit7_> HackerX: that means it cant find your router
[03:05] <Brunno> fyrestrtr, where do i find it ?
[03:05] <Usunny> Frogzoo sure you can make it fat32, just don't get any files lager then 4gb ..
[03:05] <rabbit7_> automount anyone ? i want to change the umask. which apps are used for automount in ubuntu dapper ???
[03:05] <HackerX> rabbit7_, ok so what should i do?
[03:06] <monomaniacpat> anyone used joystick calibrator before?
[03:06] <HackerX> rabbit7_, any way to force it?
[03:06] <rabbit7_> HackerX: try ifconfig eth1 up and then scan again
[03:06] <Frogzoo> Usunny: you mean gparted? yes, fat32 is fine
[03:06] <jsimmons> where do I find the install commANDLINE options
[03:06] <Hudson_H> wildmin,how can i know if i found the latest sources?
[03:06] <Usunny> jupp
[03:07] <Frogzoo> Usunny: it's a better option anyhow, for linux access
[03:07] <neopsyche_> does anyone know how to use the linmodems.org testing tool?
[03:07] <HackerX> rabbit7_, permission denied
[03:07] <Usunny> yes it is
[03:07] <rabbit7_> sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[03:07] <HackerX> ah
[03:07] <jsimmons> i've been trying for four days to get Crapper installed
[03:08] <finalbeta> MatthewV, do prefer some brurning application yourself? Do they use buffer underrun protection on the drive?
[03:08] <MarkAngels> www.fs-driver.org might be better than having fat32, but I don't know how safe it is
[03:08] <Frogzoo> !winext2
[03:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about winext2
[03:08] <Frogzoo> boo
[03:08] <Usunny> the main issu is probebly the win-stuff :>
[03:08] <HackerX> rabbit7_. no such file or directory
[03:08] <nyxie> Brunno: try to upgrade wxGTK 2.6.3
[03:08] <MatthewV> finalbeta, i generally use gnome (right-click, burn to cd...) for isos... and gnome-baker or bonfire for the rest
[03:09] <MarkAngels> Not winext2?
[03:09] <nyxie> you can find it hopefuly on Synaptic
[03:09] <MatthewV> i would try gnome-baker though.. as bonfire is not in the repos (i compiled it myself)
[03:09] <wildman> Hudson_H: well... winehq should have the good sources...
[03:09] <rabbit7_> HackerX: ??? sudo ifconfig
[03:09] <Brunno> nyxie, thanks, ill try that. :)
[03:09] <reaper> ok boys, time to do something even harder
[03:09] <reaper> can anyone help me install xlg?
[03:09] <nyxie> Brunno: np :)
[03:09] <Usunny> :S
[03:09] <finalbeta> MatthewV, I've installed it, was a little scared, sinse I don't see nothing about buffer underrun protection. But ok, I'll give that one a shot.
[03:09] <Usunny> try joining the #XGL
[03:09] <reaper> ahh thanks Usunny
[03:09] <Trae> reaper, #ubuntu-xgl
[03:09] <HackerX> rabbit7_, only has eth0 (ethernet) and lo
[03:10] <finalbeta> "don't see anything"
[03:10] <MatthewV> finalbeta, I've never had problems :) but that's no guarentee ;)
[03:10] <rabbit7_> HackerX: ifconfig eth1
[03:10] <Frogzoo> HackerX: can you see your wifi nic with 'iwconfig'  ?
[03:10] <highvoltage> I have a  user that gets the message: bash: /usr/bin/pmount: Permission denied
[03:10] <wildman> anyone here using konversation? and its 'osd' feature?
[03:11] <highvoltage> and it seems that this is the reason they can't mount usb devices either.
[03:11] <highvoltage> anyone know where to fix this?
[03:11] <_Zxc_> Does anyone have any tips for increasing the microphone recording level on an audigy2 sound card? Right now everything is maxed out and mic boost is on and I still don't get much sound
[03:11] <HackerX> rabbit7_ ok looks the same as my ether with a dif mac
[03:11] <fyrestrtr> Brunno: /var/log/
[03:12] <monomaniacpat> has anyone successfully used a gamepad on ubuntu!?
[03:12] <HackerX> rabbit7_ it says ethernet but the mac doesnt match
[03:12] <monomaniacpat> My Y axis is back to front!
[03:12] <Healot> i haven't test my gamepad yet
[03:13] <rabbit7_> HackerX: ? strange world. sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[03:13] <iBrood> Hello, can someome help me with an installation problem? My installation icon wont respond.
[03:13] <Brunno> fyrestrtr, thanks, ill check it.
[03:14] <HackerX> rabbit7_ still no such file or directory
[03:14] <MatthewV> iBrood, maybe try running the install app from terminal... or find out where the icon refers to (right click --> properties)
[03:14] <rabbit7_> sudo ifconfig works ??
[03:14] <neopsyche_> hmm..anyone know how to install a modem???
[03:14] <rabbit7_> and sudo ifconfig eth1 works too
[03:14] <iBrood> ok, I'm a newbie, can someone please tell me how to run it from the terminal?
[03:14] <HackerX> rabbit7_ yes
[03:15] <HackerX> umm
[03:15] <HackerX> wait
[03:15] <HackerX> yes
[03:15] <HackerX> rabbit7_ both work
[03:15] <iBrood> niether the one on the menu, nor the desktop icon work
[03:15] <HackerX> rabbit7_ just not the up one
[03:15] <rabbit7_> and ifconfig eth1 up gives you no such file or directory
[03:15] <rabbit7_> hmm.. strange
[03:16] <HackerX> rabbit7_ correct
[03:16] <rabbit7_> and iwconfig gives you ?
[03:16] <drega> i'm havving the same issue it seems rabbit7
[03:17] <drega> except when I installed ndiswrapper it created the wireless interface as eth1 rather than wlan0
[03:17] <HackerX> rabbit7_ lo,eth0, then on eth1 it has all the info on the card 802.11g and then all the diffnt varibles
[03:17] <iBrood> which tab should I check in properties
[03:17] <finalbeta> anyone installed windows on Xen yet? How stable is it, is performance the same like VMware or worse/beter?
[03:17] <jsimmons> are thyere any parameters i can pass to the installer? i don't need the raid or pcmcia stuff
[03:18] <rabbit7_> HackerX im puzzled
[03:19] <HackerX> rabbit7_ hmm, is there anything in this list that would help you like (access point:invaild) or any other varible?
[03:19] <Hudson_H> wildman: i have a weard problem?
[03:19] <rabbit7_> HackerX: mode should be managed right ??
[03:20] <wildman> Hudson_H: tell me
[03:20] <HackerX> correct
[03:20] <iBrood> it seems that the install menu finally popped up after 7-8 minutes
[03:20] <Hudson_H> i unpacked the source files in /home/mike
[03:20] <Hudson_H> but when i do cd /home/mike i cant enter it
[03:20] <wildman> sigh...
[03:21] <rabbit7_> HackerX: and if you scan with another wireless card you can see the access point ?
[03:21] <wildman> Hudson_H: is 'mike' your username?
[03:21] <Hudson_H> yes
[03:21] <HackerX> rabbit7_ the card is a Broadcom 4318 id that helps
[03:21] <wildman> Hudson_H: how did u unpack the sources? which command u've run?
[03:21] <Bassetts> is it possible that cleaning all the dust from my pc actually made it faster =S
[03:21] <HackerX> rabbit7_ i had windows up a min ago on the same laptop and it found i
[03:22] <Hudson_H> dubleklicked on it and unpaked it with file-roller 2.14.3
[03:22] <wildman> Hudson_H: did you make sure to have the 'recreate dirs' option (or something like that) enabled?
[03:22] <veleno> is there some app able to record the activity on video and also the audio coming from the microphone?
[03:23] <Hudson_H> wildman: in filemanager i can go to the dir,but in the terminal i got no acces
[03:23] <jsimmons> are thyere any parameters i can pass to the installer? i don't need the raid or pcmcia stuff
[03:23] <veleno> basically i need to record a session of work on a site, video and audio.
[03:23] <wildman> Hudson_H: if so, you shuold have a subfolder/subdir named wine-something
[03:23] <wildman> Hudson_H: "inside" /home/mike/
[03:23] <rabbit7_> HackerX: what card is it ?
[03:23] <Hudson_H> wildman: in the filemanager i went to the correct dir and everything is there
[03:24] <ardchoille> veleno: try istanbul
[03:24] <Hudson_H> but on terminal i dont have acces
[03:24] <wildman> Hudson_H: then, why are you trying cd /home/mike, while you should be trying cd /home/mike/wine-something ?
[03:24] <Hudson_H> wildman: the whole line gave me an error,so i went up dir by dir
[03:25] <veleno> ardchoille, sounds ok for video. what for audio recording?
[03:25] <HackerX> rabbit7_ Broadcom 4318
[03:25] <wildman> Hudson_H: open a terminal window plz
[03:25] <ardchoille> veleno: oh, that I don't know
[03:25] <HackerX> on a dell b130
[03:25] <ardchoille> veleno: I don't use sound in anything.
[03:25] <wildman> Hudson_H: on that window: cd wine-something, replacing something with the real name of the folder
[03:26] <Hudson_H> wildman: i get still the same error
[03:27] <nyxie> monomaniac: you there? did you solve the gamepad problem you had?
[03:27] <wildman> Hudson_H: I don't understand how comes, if u did all as user mike, don't have access to your own files...
[03:27] <wildman> Hudson_H: there's something wrong on your proceedings...
[03:27] <Hudson_H> wildman: that is what i find weard
[03:27] <nyxie> monomaniacpat*
[03:27] <foxiness> i want to tweak wget where can i do that?
[03:28] <oskude> foxiness, try: sudo nano /etc/wgetrc
[03:28] <Frogzoo> foxiness: /etc/wgetrc
[03:28] <Hudson_H> wildman: i know,but i don't know what,it all started yesterday after the use of gparted,it messed up everything
[03:28] <HackerX> rabbit7_ do you know anything about ndiswrapper
[03:28] <foxiness> thanks oskude Frogzoo
[03:28] <rabbit7_> HackerX: not really i have tried it long time ago and it didnt work for me
[03:29] <jsimmons> are there any parameters i can pass to the installer? i don't need the raid or pcmcia stuff
[03:29] <oskude> foxiness, allways look in /etc if you want to edit config files of some program (and there are allso .programname dirs in your home for some programs)
[03:29] <HackerX> rabbit7_ its looking like i might have to use that. but i dont understand why it see the card but cant connect
[03:30] <wildman> Hudson_H: which is the wine sources filename u've downloaded?
[03:30] <rabbit7_> HackerX: i dont know either. im sorry
[03:30] <foxiness> oskude, ok next time i will do that ,thank you for help
[03:30] <drega> rabbit7_ i just got the broadcom wireless working with ndiswrapper.
[03:30] <litb> hi ppl
[03:31] <oskude> foxiness, youre welcome
[03:31] <litb> is there a graphical program which lets you edit config files?
[03:31] <drega> piece of cake; just make sure to unload the bcm43xx driver before you use ndiswrapper.
[03:31] <HackerX> rabbit7_ Alright, thanks for the help
[03:31] <Hudson_H> wine-0.9.16.tar.bz2
[03:31] <litb> eg which parses those files in etc, regognizes its format and let you change things by checking boxes etc ?
[03:32] <wildman> Hudson_H: and u have /home/mike/wine-0.9.16/ ?
[03:32] <Kismet> How can I avoid to GNOME to handle the  special key of my multimedia keyboard?
[03:32] <Hudson_H> yes
[03:32] <oskude> litb, that would be alot of work, but some programs have tools for their config files...
[03:32] <xukun> #/join #cups
[03:33] <oskude> litb, just open the config file with nano/gedit, they are mostly good commented, or try "man programname" or "man program.conf" for more info...
[03:33] <wildman> Hudson_H: and u cannot just open a terminal window (which should leave you already inside /home/mike) and cd wine-0.9.16 ?
[03:34] <jsimmons> are there any parameters i can pass to the installer? i don't need the raid or pcmcia stuff
[03:35] <oskude> jsimmons, i dont need/have them neither, but they arent "breaking" my system...
[03:35] <eyedol> i have a wide screen and i can't play supertux
[03:35] <xukun> sinds I upgraded to ubuntu dapper printing throu ipp is not working. We have a company printer server using ipp. I see all the pritners but my print jobs are not going to the pritners. Any idea's?
[03:35] <eyedol> the graphics get disttored
[03:36] <jsimmons> oskude i've been trying to install drake for four days, changing install params is my last idea
[03:36] <gidna> hi
[03:36] <wildman> Hudson_H: ?
[03:37] <Hudson_H> wildman: it's ok i'm in that directory now
[03:37] <eyedol> any howto to solve that?
[03:37] <oskude> jsimmons, whats the problem ? does the installer freeze in the "ubuntu boot logo" ?
[03:37] <Hudson_H> wildman: do u still have that link of that page? by restarting the pc i lost it
[03:37] <wildman> Hudson_H: good luck following the rest of the instructions starting on LDFLAGS....
[03:37] <debnub> Hi everyone. Need help configuring my network. I got full web services access from winxp, but partial servicesunder ubuntu. any help?
[03:37] <jsimmons> oskude if you want a complete rundown, check the ubuntu install forum
[03:37] <wildman> Hudson_H: http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[03:37] <oskude> jsimmons, got a direct link ?
[03:37] <Hudson_H> thx
[03:38] <wildman> Hudson_H: welcomed
[03:38] <gidna> I have a problem witf my printer
[03:38] <jsimmons> oskude www.ubuntu.com
[03:39] <jsimmons> oskude click community and then find the link to the forums
[03:39] <oskude> jsimmons, doh, i mean direct link to your post
[03:39] <rabbit7_> does anyone know how to change HALs umask of fvat disks without changing the policy file ??
[03:39] <jsimmons> oskude wait one
[03:40] <gidna> How I can istall my printer?
[03:40] <debnub> gidna: describe your problem please
[03:40] <rabbit7_> HackerX: im sorry it seems to be a hardware driver related issue i am at loss. you might want to check the gentoo forums for advanced help
[03:40] <jsimmons> oskude http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207349&page=2
[03:40] <MatthewV> gidna, give System --> Administration --> Printing a try
[03:40] <jsimmons> oskude check the next-to-last post
[03:41] <gidna> the printer runs with turboprint spoftware
[03:41] <oskude> jsimmons, ill check
[03:41] <gidna> but it pirints also the logo of turboprint
[03:41] <gidna> beacause I have to pay 30$
[03:41] <gidna> another way to installa less paying?
[03:42] <debnub> gidna: have you tried foomatic?
[03:42] <MatthewV> gidna, so the way i said above won't work?
[03:42] <neopsyche> http://www.modem-help.com/chipsets.php?mid=122&nad=1621
[03:42] <neopsyche> my chipset family
[03:42] <neopsyche> NOW .. does anyone know how to get linux working with that chipset?
[03:43] <gidna> no
[03:43] <TheFuzzball> hello, how do I set up my system to do a dual boot for Kubuntu and Windows XP pro?
[03:43] <wildman> bye *, have a nice day/whatever_according_to_your_time_zone
[03:43] <neopsyche> FUZZBALL.. GRUB LOADER
[03:44] <TheFuzzball> neopsyche, can you give me instructions?
[03:44] <SVisor> Skype does not seem to be able to open /dev/dsp ... so how do I get Skype to work?
[03:44] <neopsyche> you should be able to install it in your MBR but im not sure how to do that from scratch.. better ask someone more advanced in that sort of thing
[03:44] <baal> first install Windows XP pro, then install ubuntu
[03:44] <gidna> In this page
[03:44] <gidna> http://www.linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi
[03:44] <smtkr> Interesting problem: Using the latest Ubuntu and Firefox, I can't visit www.ishares.com (server not found message). In Windows (and latest Firefox), I can. Any ideas?
[03:44] <neopsyche> or do a search on grub loader
[03:45] <gidna> there isn't pixma canon ip 1600...
[03:45] <SVisor> !skype
[03:45] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[03:45] <gidna> debnub: anothe solution?
[03:45] <rekrutacja> hi all i have problem with gaim: with file transfer feature in jabber i can receive files, but not send them. no error message is generated, simply my client is waiting for other side to accept file transfer, but other side is not receiving it. any ideas?
[03:45] <oskude> jsimmons, hmm, that sounds sad. i was hoping you had old hardware where the solution could have been "ide=nodma" as boot option (had it many times)... but i havent never used amd64 nor sata, so dunno if thats the problem, sorry (btw. you say your 1st sata drive has a ntfs partition, i hope you didnt try to install linux in ntfs partition?!)
[03:45] <chopchop_> hi guys, im trying to compile vim 7.0 but it keeps telling me that it cannot find any teminal library and recommends that i should have installed ncurses while i have already installed it
[03:46] <chopchop_> any solution?
[03:46] <dreamthief>  rekrutacja , just don't use gaim for jabber. the jabber implementation is crap
[03:46] <gidna> debnub..
[03:46] <baal> Anyone who use AD1981B? is your soundcard have sound in ubuntu?
[03:46] <jsimmons> oskude noooo I said in that post that I'm installing onto a 200gb IDE drive
[03:46] <debnub> gidna: try foomatic
[03:46] <oskude> jsimmons, yeah, and i top you say: 10) The 1st SATA1 drive has a single NTFS partition
[03:47] <jsimmons> oskude but that sata drives are just data drives
[03:47] <rekrutacja> dreamthief: the probnlem is i want to use one IM app for my different accounts, and gaim is supporting gadu gadu - obscure polish instant messanger which is very popular among my friends...
[03:47] <gidna> debnub: I told you I have  searched in the list but there isn't
[03:47] <dreamthief> lol
[03:47] <chopchop_> any idea for the vim problem?
[03:47] <dreamthief> well
[03:47] <jsimmons> oskude i'm not even planning on mounting any of those partitions
[03:47] <erUSUL> chopchop_: de dev version of the library?
[03:48] <dreamthief> than you're SOL
[03:48] <debnub> gidna: launch synaptic and search for foomatic
[03:48] <litb> is it normal that sata drives doesn't trigger a hotplug event?
[03:48] <rekrutacja> dreamthief: i'm sure this is something trivial because it was working before, just recently stopped
[03:48] <jsimmons> oskude i just want to install the freakin os
[03:48] <oskude> jsimmons, ah ok, miss read that...
[03:48] <dreamthief> hm
[03:48] <baal> register AD1981b
[03:48] <dreamthief> someone installed a software- or hardware firewall ?
[03:48] <gidna> argh
[03:48] <debnub> gidna: system---->administration----> synaptic
[03:48] <gidna> in the database
[03:48] <gidna> of the fromatic
[03:48] <jsimmons> oskude the live cd boots fine, i hear sounds, and I can connect to the net - the installer is CRAP
[03:48] <rom1__> hello
[03:48] <baal> help
[03:48] <dreamthief> or perhaps a NAT router with a firewall?
[03:49] <gidna> isn't my printer
[03:49] <yxa> how do I use touch to date a file x secs from CURRENT TIME?
[03:49] <rom1__> anyone know where i can find help on debugging eclipse ?
[03:49] <chopchop_> erUSUL: how can i get it?
[03:49] <xukun> could it be that ubuntu team has released a version that has printing broken?
[03:49] <oskude> jsimmons, have you tried to install when you _only_ have the 200gb ide hd and cdrom installed ?
[03:50] <abstractism> morning #ubuntu
[03:50] <rekrutacja> dreamthief: how to check that?
[03:50] <jsimmons> oskude if you mean without the sata drives, yeah
[03:50] <debnub> gidna: Have you tried CUPS?
[03:50] <gidna> yes
[03:50] <oskude> jsimmons, hmm... sorry cant think of anything atm...
[03:50] <dr_willis> Joys.
[03:50] <gidna> is not supported my printer
[03:50] <dreamthief> ask your buddies ^^
[03:51] <rekrutacja> dreamthief: nobody installed it for sure as this is my personal machine i use over private adsl line , but maybe with some recent (i mean last 3-4 weeks) ubuntu update this was changed?
[03:51] <chopchop_> erUSUL: 5.5-1ubuntu3
[03:51] <jsimmons> oskude what really ticks me off is that nobody from ubuntu appears to give a crap
[03:51] <dreamthief> uh guy
[03:51] <gidna> IF I want to print I have to pay is not correct!!
[03:52] <debnub> gidna: sorry then, can help. have you search from posts for that printer?
[03:52] <dreamthief> maybe someone of your friends installed this f*ckin hard or software on his side ^^
[03:52] <rekrutacja> dreamthief: just tell me you dont know how to check what is broken :-)
[03:52] <rekrutacja> dreamthief: no. i cannot send files within my home network too
[03:52] <dreamthief> hm
[03:52] <oskude> jsimmons, well, without error messages that would be hard...
[03:53] <gidna> yes..
[03:53] <dr_willis> gidna,  let me guess.. normal cups drivers dont support your printer but the commercial pack does?
[03:53] <jsimmons> oskude there are no error messages - installation just hangs up
[03:53] <gidna> Yes
[03:53] <chopchop_> please help me compile vim 7.0
[03:53] <dr_willis> gidna,  could be worse off.. my printer isent even supported by the comercial drivers
[03:53] <oskude> jsimmons, have you tried the (old) text mode installer from the alternate cd ?
[03:53] <varsendaggr> hey  my domain server keeps resetting itself.   i tried to give it a really long reset time but that didn't work any sugestions
[03:53] <rixxon> chopchop_: ./configure; make; make install
[03:53] <jsimmons> oskude i thikn you can probably tell that if there were any, I would have listed them in my "recap" message
[03:53] <ems> hello
[03:54] <erUSUL> chopchop_: sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[03:54] <xukun> why ist that nobody is responding to my calls. A,m I asking the wrong quations here or what? (;
[03:54] <dr_willis> chopchop_,  or follow the svn/cvs docs on the vim7 docs/page
[03:54] <a_l_e> hello, how can i edit a file which should be published as latin1 without changing the encoding of the whole system?
[03:54] <jsimmons> oskude yeah,and it hung up too
[03:54] <gidna> so I can't print?
[03:54] <erUSUL> a_l_e: gedit does that just fine
[03:54] <varsendaggr> this is in /etc/resolv.conf
[03:54] <dr_willis> gidna,  no idea. there may be some alternative drivers for your printer.  that may take some googling to find out.
[03:54] <monomaniacpat> hoe do I force a cd drive to open? It claims the device is busy when umounting
[03:54] <dr_willis> gidna,  i dont even knwow hat pronter ya got.
[03:55] <oskude> jsimmons, if you jump to ctrl+alt+f1 (atleast in live cd boot phase) you get error messages...
[03:55] <chopchop_> got it, thanks guys
[03:55] <xukun> do you want me to say it again?
[03:55] <killaz> hi ubuntu....
[03:55] <monomaniacpat> forcing a cd drive open command?
[03:55] <Hudson_H> damm wildman is gone, don't knwo why i can't compile an executable
[03:55] <dr_willis> monomaniacpat,  you want to kill off the apps that are accessing the cdrom, use 'lsof' to find what ones those are.
[03:55] <oskude> jsimmons, btw, did you do the "check cd" option on the install cd ? (or checked the md5sum on the images?)
[03:55] <gidna> the solution is to eliminate ubuntu
[03:55] <xukun> is there anybody here using dapper with ipp printing?
[03:56] <killaz> I have a question about scanning images. I hope that one of you can help me..
[03:56] <varsendaggr> killaz, yeah ?
[03:56] <dr_willis> gidna,  yea.. whatever.
[03:56] <dr_willis> xukun,  yes.
[03:56] <monomaniacpat> dr_willis: I am using wine to install a pc game. I cannot kill the process - it's halfway through installing!
[03:56] <debnub> gidna: or buy another printer
[03:56] <killaz> I have xsane installed..... but I find the resolution very poor, comapre to what Im used to with this same scnaner.... do you know how to imporve this?
[03:57] <killaz> I searched for a manual/tutorial on the web but couldnt find anything
[03:57] <a_l_e> erUSUL: it's a html file with "<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">" encodings. firefox doesn't show the accented chars if i save the file with ISO-8859-1 encodings :-(
[03:57] <juztin> what is gconf?
[03:57] <monomaniacpat> dr_willis: wine eject was the command I needed
[03:57] <dr_willis> monomaniacpat,  wine is weird in ways. theres wine options to allow it to mount/unmount the cdrom, or for the user to manually do this. Or i alwayus just copy the cd's to a dir. then install from there.. elimineating the cdrom totally.
[03:57] <debarshi> juztin, gconf lets u configure GNOME
[03:57] <gidna> there is a strange fact
[03:58] <juztin> debarshi, its an app?
[03:58] <dreamthief> monomaniacpat, try using a paperclip to open the drive manually
[03:58] <rekrutacja> hi all i have problem with gaim: with file transfer feature in jabber i can receive files, but not send them. no error message is generated, simply my client is waiting for other side to accept file transfer, but other side is not receiving it. any ideas?
[03:58] <User542> hi guys
[03:58] <oskude> juztin, you may be looking for this: gconf-editor
[03:58] <gidna> when I go to administration ->piornter and add printers
[03:58] <xukun> dr_willis, could you print after the installation of dapper without changing anything execpt putting ipp in client.cups or did you made more changes?
[03:58] <gidna> the system Knows my printer
[03:58] <User542> im having trouble installing ubuntu server, nothing happens when i start the computer with the cd in
[03:58] <debnub> dr_wills: having trouble with my web access via external router, wx works fine but ubuntu has partial access
[03:58] <juztin> oskude, i'm actually just wondering what it was, because i downloaded a script that optimizes gconf
[03:58] <gidna> then open me a page where I have to choice my printer
[03:58] <dr_willis> xukun,  hmm.. all i did was run that gnome printer config and enter the ip# and stuff for my ipp printer.
[03:58] <oskude> juztin, optimizes gconf ?? where did you get such script ?
[03:58] <dr_willis> xukun,  i never altered the client.cups
[03:59] <jeff931> hey guys
[03:59] <jeff931> my computer just boots right to windows even with the ubuntu server install cd in
[03:59] <juztin> oskude, i got a collection of optimization scripts somewhere, i could hunt it down...theres scripts for docs, evolution, gconf, gnome, openoffice, and rhythmbox in the zip file
[03:59] <jeff931> can anybody help me?
[03:59] <oskude> juztin, aha, well, if you trust them...
[03:59] <juztin> jeff931, you have to change your BIOS to boot from cd first
[03:59] <jeff931> how do i do that?
[04:00] <jsimmons> oskude right after "booting the kernel", I get "[4294676.563000]  usb 1-1:device descriptor read/all, error -110"
[04:00] <juztin> jeff931, at startup, hit the button that brings up the bios, usually del or f10 or f1...then change your bootup order
[04:00] <dr_willis> or backspace..  :P
[04:00] <jeff931> lol ok
[04:00] <jeff931> thanks
[04:00] <juztin> np :)
[04:00] <oskude> jsimmons, do you have usb devices connected ?
[04:00] <jeff931> ill try that
[04:00] <juztin> good luck
[04:00] <debarshi> juztin, yeah its an app
[04:00] <debarshi> gconf at the console invokes it
[04:01] <jsimmons> oskude but then it proceeds through the boot process untiul it hangs at "Loading hardware drivers...":
[04:01] <juztin> debarshi, ok, thanks :)
[04:01] <debnub> having trouble with my web access via external router, winxp works fine but ubuntu has partial access
[04:01] <oskude> jsimmons, and you didnt say if you did "check cd" or checked the mkd5sum on the images...
[04:01] <jsimmons> oskude yes, i checked cd and checksums, and yes I have a usb devcice connected - it's a game controller
[04:02] <dreamthief> unplug the controller ^^
[04:02] <oskude> jsimmons, and the "check cd" said that the cd is OK ? unplug the game controller...
[04:02] <jsimmons> on another m/b that wasn't necessary
[04:03] <jsimmons> if i can't used the controller, linux is pointless
[04:03] <dreamthief> lol
[04:03] <juztin> wtf
[04:03] <oskude> jsimmons, well, you can "install" it afterwards...
[04:03] <dr_willis> 'linux cant handle my gamepad.. its useless!!!"
[04:03] <dr_willis> :)
[04:03] <juztin> lol
[04:03] <oskude> jsimmons, but if the installer hangs on it, unplug it...
[04:03] <debarshi> juztin, you are welcome
[04:03] <jsimmons> fyi, it's a $1500 steering wheel/pedal set
[04:04] <oskude> jsimmons, and from MS ? ;)
[04:04] <dreamthief> lol
[04:04] <juztin> 1500 bucks for a steering wheel?!?!
[04:04] <dr_willis> i dont know of any raceing games under linux
[04:04] <oskude> torcs
[04:04] <jsimmons> yi'm serious about my sim raciong
[04:04] <jsimmons> 'ECCI
[04:04] <dreamthief> try buying a real car. its more fun anyway ... @ jsimmons
[04:04] <juztin> i got my REAL car for less than 1500
[04:05] <juztin> its a piece of crap....but it's real!  w00t!
[04:05] <dreamthief> rofl
[04:05] <jsimmons> mayb e my system is too big for Linux
[04:06] <debnub> Hey guys, give me a hand here, please.having trouble with my web access via external router, winxp works fine but ubuntu has partial access
[04:06] <oskude> jsimmons, hmm, did "check cd" say that the cd is OK ? and did unplugging the usb controller help ? or are you flaming...
[04:06] <dreamthief> noah, he just wants linux to behave like windows
[04:06] <juztin> wtf is windows?  :o
[04:07] <dreamthief> jsimmons, why do you want to use linux?
[04:07] <jsimmons> oskude it's rebooting now without the controller connected, and yes, i'm just giving back what i'm getting
[04:07] <oskude> jsimmons, i still dont know if "check cd" said ok or failed...
[04:07] <jsimmons> that's an irrelevant question - if you need a definition of irrelevant, look it up on google
[04:07] <dreamthief> noah, it isnt
[04:08] <varsendaggr> it's easy to make linux behave like windows,   just in the course of your day randomly hit the reset button
[04:08] <juztin> lol varsendaggr
[04:08] <Klaidas> hello. I\m ucrrently using Ubuntu's default kernel (2.6.15-25-386). I'm o an Pentium 4 with 1.7GHz. What would be the advantage of using 2.6.15-25-686 kernel? It says it's for PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP/UP
[04:08] <dreamthief> lol
[04:08] <Lynoure> varsendaggr: It's funny, unfortunately :)
[04:08] <varsendaggr> yeah and we have BSOD too
[04:08] <Cald> hello
[04:08] <varsendaggr> there are in the screensaver
[04:08] <varsendaggr> ha  ha ha
[04:08] <dreamthief> Klaidas, it uses the advanced instructions of these processors ;)
[04:08] <juztin> hahaha
[04:08] <oskude> Klaidas, i havent noticed any difference, but i allways use the kernel "made" for that processor... just a habbit...
[04:09] <a_l_e> still with my encodings problems: i have a html file encoded as html. if i view it through the local apache the accents get screwed, if i upload it on my web server the accents are shown correctly. anyone has a clue?
[04:09] <iMac_G5_user> hi folks.  anyone up for a liveCD  6.0.6 bug report on a particular PPC box?
[04:09] <Klaidas> so, do you think I should install 686?
[04:09] <oskude> a_l_e, try using html entities
[04:09] <debnub> could you just tell me why i beeing ignored here? that way i could learn something, thks
[04:10] <a_l_e> (btw the html file is encoded as latin1 not as html :-)
[04:10] <juztin> debnub, maybe nobody knows the answer here?  we're not ignoring you, promise :D
[04:10] <dr_willis> debnub,  you could be a little more specific about your problem.. its rather vague.
[04:10] <a_l_e> oskude: what du you mean with "using html entities"?
[04:10] <dr_willis> ubuntu has partial access - means very little to me
[04:10] <a_l_e> oskude: &auml;?
[04:10] <oskude> a_l_e, google for "html entities" then you know
[04:10] <jsimmons> oskude, and yes, when i said i checked the cd and the checksums, i would have said something like "they werse completely hosed up"if they weren't okay
[04:11] <oskude> a_l_e, yup
[04:11] <varsendaggr> debnub, what is the problem?
[04:11] <crocd> does anyone have any advise as to resolving slow browsing speed and connections to the net? I get between 50 - 30 packet loss on a ping but within vmware running xp i dont get any.
[04:11] <vernek> any of you guys know about hight temperature in laps tops with ubuntu 6.06
[04:11] <oskude> jsimmons, well, i didnt know that...
[04:11] <jsimmons> oskude, and yes, when i said i checked the cd and the checksums, i would have said something like "they werse completely hosed up"if they weren't okay
[04:11] <a_l_e> oskude: it would show up correctly but doesnt solve my problem.
[04:11] <abstractism> debnub: it could be because of the firewall?
[04:12] <jsimmons> oskude, with the controller disconnected, i don't get the usb error,m but booting still hangs at "Loading hardware drivers"
[04:12] <oskude> a_l_e, maybe you should go to "html" channels, doesnt really have something to do with ubuntu...
[04:12] <cypher_> crocd, are you using wireless or cable ?
[04:12] <oskude> jsimmons, go to ctrl+alt+f1 and hope for error messages :)
[04:12] <altech> hi
[04:12] <debnub> dr_willis: have a nat router (external) running montavista linux (d-link dsl-g604t) right now i on ubuntu on chatzilla. i got web access, finger, localnet respondes file, ethernet printer works, but not gaim, or ping to external network.
[04:12] <jsimmons> oskide i did that and there are bnone
[04:12] <varsendaggr> debnub, i have had the same problem.    xchat works but google doesn't right?
[04:13] <mahmud> hello
[04:13] <altech> hi every buddy
[04:13] <oskude> jsimmons, hmm...
[04:13] <debnub> varsendaggr: the other way around with me :)
[04:13] <crocd> cypher_: using cable
[04:13] <mahmud> erm, i am wondering if anyone here can help, someone has installed ubuntu on my inspiron 9400 dell laptop
[04:13] <cypher_> debnub, netstat -rn
[04:13] <jsimmons> oskude i passed "hmmmm..." about three days ago :/
[04:13] <juztin> mahmud, oh no!
[04:14] <vernek> did you guys see my question?
[04:14] <mnk> juztin, hehe
[04:14] <mahmud> ermmm
[04:14] <jsimmons> oskude i am plumb out of ideas
[04:14] <abstractism> mahmud: those pranksters, lol
[04:14] <juztin> lmao
[04:14] <dr_willis> vernek,  my laptop runs cooler with ubuntu then windows.
[04:14] <jsimmons> yands i'm just a little pissed off about this
[04:14] <oskude> jsimmons, how new is your hardware ? like newer than 3months ?
[04:14] <jsimmons> oskuded my video card
[04:15] <dr_willis> vernek,  may want to google  for your exact laptop and linux, and perhaops check  the ubuntu wikis theres a laptop forum also.
[04:15] <mahmud> was it a bad idea to install ubuntu on my laptop, as the graphics seems very unresponsive in game play and the colors are all wrong
[04:15] <dr_willis> mahmud,  depends on your video card.
[04:15] <Lynoure> debnub: sounds like a problem in the router, maybe firewalling outgoing traffic. Maybe montavista has a support channel, too?
[04:15] <jsimmons> oskude my video card
[04:15] <debnub> cypher: just ran that. 3 lines. do you want me to paste it?
[04:15] <mahmud> i got ATI mobility radeon x1400
[04:15] <juztin> mahmud, problyneed to update your video drivers
[04:15] <vernek> I tryed it before bu no aswers for my problems
[04:15] <jsimmons> oskude eVGA 7900GTX
[04:15] <cypher_> debnub, check your routing table by "netstat -rn"
[04:15] <mahmud> i installed this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:15] <oskude> jsimmons, i think motherboard (and the cotrol chips)
[04:15] <dr_willis> mahmud,  and have you installed the ATI drivers yet?
[04:15] <juztin> vernek, there are a ton of people in here...sometimes you gotta repeat your question after five mintes or so :D
[04:16] <juztin> *minutes
[04:16] <dr_willis> ok.. could be that card has less then perfect support at this time.
[04:16] <altech> hello any buddy knows where i could get games for ubuntu 3d graphic games
[04:16] <mahmud> dr_willis, yes
[04:16] <juztin> altech, synaptic
[04:16] <cypher_> debnub, yes paste http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:16] <altech> hello any buddy knows where i could get games for ubuntu 3d graphic games
[04:16] <jsimmons> oskude motherboard is 6 months old, bios is latest version availanble
[04:16] <vernek> the problems is  when I have the ACPI able
[04:16] <dr_willis> altech,  set up the video card drivers right..a nd start installing. :P
[04:16] <oskude> jsimmons, you could try google with linux and your MB name to see if any problems are known...
[04:16] <altech> hello any buddy knows where i could get games for ubuntu 3d graphic games
[04:17] <jsimmons> oskude i did, and there aren't
[04:17] <oskude> jsimmons, hmm...
[04:17] <a_l_e> oskude: i'm also trying to get an answer on the apache channel... but no solution seams to be around for now :-(
[04:17] <abstractism> altech: people are answering your question
[04:17] <rsk> altech, idsoftware.com
[04:17] <iMac_G5_user> [hmm, this is a busy forum!]   hi folks. anyone up for a liveCD 6.0.6 bug report on a particular PPC box?
[04:17] <mahmud> i tried unreal 2004 demo on ubuntu, colors come brown and graphics look jerky - it was much better under windows xp media center
[04:17] <altech> hello any buddy knows where i could get games for ubuntu 3d graphic games
[04:17] <POVaddct> altech: go away, troll
[04:17] <abstractism> wow, thats lame
[04:18] <gnomefreak> !games > altech
[04:18] <cypher_> crocd, is the ping for the same host fails sometimes while it succeeds sometimes ?
[04:18] <oskude> jsimmons, and it still freezes but dont give any error messages in ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[04:18] <a_l_e> oskude: and i guess that it's somehow an ubuntu problem, since the same programs i use now, worked correctly before installing ubuntu (and it's a standard install of ubuntu!)
[04:18] <inono> Is there a package for installing RubyGems on Ubuntu ?
[04:18] <jsimmons> oskude right
[04:18] <altech> i want 3d games
[04:18] <vernek> dr_willis,  I have isntalled the ubuntu 6.06 few weeks ago, I will try ti get mofe inf. at Google
[04:18] <jsimmons> oskude it just stops booting
[04:19] <abstractism> altech: there's america's army
[04:19] <abstractism> and doom 3
[04:19] <gnomefreak> altech: if you read the link ubotu sent you there should be 3d games on that list
[04:19] <juztin> altech, i like A Tale In The Desert
[04:19] <oskude> jsimmons, have you tested that your RAM is ok ?
[04:19] <debnub> cypher. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17166
[04:19] <altech> i have 128mb agp graphic card
[04:19] <jsimmons> oskude yeah, no errors
[04:19] <dr_willis> altech,  thers alwo the Quake3 based games that are comming out for free. like Tremulus (sp) and some others
[04:19] <mahmud> i tried unreal 2004 demo on ubuntu, colors come brown and graphics look jerky - it was much better under windows xp media center
[04:19] <abstractism> altech: read what people are saying to you
[04:20] <altech> but where
[04:20] <juztin> wb dreamthief
[04:20] <juztin> *cough*pwnt*cough*
[04:20] <mahmud> is there a problem wih linux and my graphcis card, ati mobiliry radeon x1400?
[04:20] <cypher_> debnub, what is eth0 and eth1 and are you using both interfaces ?
[04:21] <[Ex0r] > does anybody here know of a program that can convert nero .nrg images to .iso or .cue ?
[04:21] <dr_willis> mahmud,  if its a problem it would be in the official ATI drivers.. so there very well could be issues
[04:21] <iMac_G5_user> I'll try submitting at a less busy time, if there is time.  Good luck, everyone.  *waves*
[04:21] <mahmud> dr_willis, sorry did not understand
[04:21] <debnub> cypher: eth0 is my wired interface, eth1 wireless. using eth0 now.
[04:21] <mrDaniel> yesterday i have installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu-linux. But now i see, that i prefer GNOME much more than KDE and i want to remove kubuntu-dektop. Yesterday i have installed three packages: kubuntu-desktop, language-pack-kde, language-pack-de-base
[04:22] <dr_willis> mahmud,  ithere very well could be issues
[04:22] <mrDaniel> my question: it there i 'clean' way to remove kubuntu-dekstop again?
[04:22] <mnk> is anyone else using ati radeon with ubuntu?
[04:22] <cypher_> debnub, try "ifconfig eth1 down"
[04:22] <[Ex0r] > mnk I am
[04:22] <cypher_> debnub, try "sudo ifconfig eth1 down"
[04:22] <dxdemetriou> If I make killall gnome-panel how can I reload the tray icons?
[04:22] <Hudson_H> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables What do i miss to get it work?
[04:22] <mnk> [Ex0r] , are games ok?
[04:22] <dr_willis> kubuntu-desktop is a meta packatge - removeing it wont remove anything real. (i think)
[04:22] <[Ex0r] > mnk, I dunno I don't game anymore :)
[04:22] <dagrump> mahmud:  u need to instaal the restricted modules & then the fglrx driver, in that order
[04:23] <mahmud> dagrump, i am very new to linux, how do i do that, whatever u said to do!?
[04:23] <mnk> anyone else using a dell 9400 inspiron?
[04:23] <fowlduck> dr_willis, well, the metapackage could in theory also be used to update kde as a whole (adding new packages in an update), so it could break in theory
[04:24] <johlin> I need to download some packages from http://neutronic.mine.nu/ubuntu/dapper/Packages.gz, how do I format that line in sources.list?
[04:24] <slackern> [Ex0r] : http://gregory.kokanosky.free.fr/v4/linux/nrg2iso.en.html check that out.
[04:24] <juztin> !restricted > mahmud
[04:24] <[Ex0r] > slackern, just found that :)
[04:24] <cypher_> debnub, which version of ubuntu are you running ?
[04:24] <dagrump> muhmud: w/ the packge manager
[04:24] <crocd> cypher_: yeah, I ping my isp's website and get different results
[04:24] <fowlduck> dr_willis, BUT it's entirely unlikely to the point of disregarding it
[04:24] <crocd> grr
[04:24] <mnk> !restricted
[04:24] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:24] <debnub> cypher: eth1 is down
[04:24] <oskude_> these damn lags...
[04:25] <cypher_> debnub, try whether ping to external network works
[04:25] <[Ex0r] > now to see if there is an ISO extractor like WinISO
[04:25] <fowlduck> dr_willis, i enjoy answering questions people didn't ask
[04:25] <slackern> [Ex0r] : i don't have any idea how good it is though, i don't even own a cd-burner here :p
[04:25] <mahmud> dagrump, what do i look for in the package manager?
[04:25] <mwe> [Ex0r] : just mount the iso
[04:25] <dr_willis> the main purpose of the meta packages i though was to allow easier updateing.
[04:25] <jsimmons> oskude i'm installing - AGAIN - without the controller connected... Not expecvting anything different though
[04:25] <dr_willis> and less typing :P
[04:25] <robertj> could someone with a relatively stock install of Dapper that was clean installed (not upgraded) please give me a list of just the service names that are listed under System->Administration->Services?
[04:26] <debnub> cypher: it workssss!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:26] <oskude_> jsimmons, crossing fingers, as im out of ides :/
[04:26] <jsimmons> oskude i was out of ideas on sunday
[04:26] <nyxie> Hudson_H: have you tried: sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[04:26] <juztin> robertj, i can
[04:26] <jsimmons> oskude i'm too old for this crap :/
[04:26] <debnub> cypher: but not x-chat nor gaim :(
[04:27] <Hudson_H> nyxie: gonne trie it now
[04:27] <mahmud> dagrump, my friend says he has already installed easy ubuntu
[04:27] <dagrump> mahmud: restricted modules 4 the kerrnel u have installed which should be marked already
[04:27] <oskude_> jsimmons, then leave it :/
[04:27] <KnowledgEngi> hello
[04:27] <[Ex0r] > hehe or I can open the ISO in the archive manager :)
[04:27] <SonicChao> What command do I have to use to make Fluxbox a choice in "Select Session"?
[04:27] <juztin> robertj, here they are : anacron, atd, cron, klogd, sysklogd, mysql, gdm, cupsys, apache2
[04:27] <SonicChao> Can anyone help?
[04:27] <borfast> hi everyone
[04:27] <mnk> hi borfast
[04:27] <KnowledgEngi> i need the default source.list of ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[04:27] <juztin> robertj, i added mysql and apache2 i'm pretty sure
[04:27] <inono> Is there a radrails ubuntu package?
[04:27] <cypher_> debnub, are you getting any error in xchat or gaim..
[04:27] <jsimmons> oskude i don't think it's too much to expect an install to go pretty much as expected
[04:27] <KnowledgEngi> wher can i get it ?
[04:28] <oskude_> jsimmons, well, not when the hardware makers dont open their specifications...
[04:28] <mahmud> dagrump, i am at a total loss in what this restricted and module stuff is....can u tell me what i need to do step by step please?
[04:28] <Hudson_H> nyxie: can't source is not availeble
[04:28] <SonicChao> What command do I have to use to make Fluxbox a choice in "Select Session"?
[04:28] <juztin> SonicChao, just install it
[04:28] <jsimmons> oskude if the live cd boots, the installer should work
[04:28] <Reimu> How come internet works in Windows but not ubuntu :/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17170
[04:29] <SonicChao> juztin: sudo apt-get install ____________ ?
[04:29] <jsimmons> oskude wouldn't you thinik?
[04:29] <juztin> SonicChao, um...fluxbox?
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons: You have tried how many distros that all failed and we are still here trying to help you..... Oh, and good morning..  :)
[04:29] <oskude_> jsimmons, nope, the live cd doesnt touch your hd (controller chip) but installer does...
[04:30] <jsimmons> oskude my point is that ifthwe live cd can resolve the hardware, the installer should succeed as well
[04:30] <oskude_> jsimmons, btw, what format did you partition your / dir and did you make an swap partition ?
[04:30] <blinky> howdy fellas
[04:30] <Jack_Sparrow> the gforce4 chipset even has bugs and data loss for windows users with most drives except seagate
[04:30] <SonicChao> juztin: That worked! Thanks!
[04:30] <oskude_> jsimmons, as i said live cd doesnt touch your hd, but installer does, so there could be the problem...
[04:30] <debnub> cypher_: x-chat ok. gaim gives error, i'll check it. Thanks for your help. :)
[04:30] <jsimmons> oskude i let gparted deo it automagically
[04:30] <juztin> SonicChao, lol, np
[04:30] <blinky> does anyone know why all the popup notification things i get from azureus do not go away? i click hide but it doesnt do anything
[04:31] <blinky> i installed exactly as azureus's tutorial said
[04:31] <tiredbones> Does anyone here know where I could ask a question on evolution problem I'm having?
[04:31] <SonicChao> I am gonna try to boot into FluxBox
[04:31] <Hudson_H> nyxie: i have it all
[04:32] <jsimmons> oskude after install finished and prompts to reboot, the system freezes at "Shutting down LVM volume groups"
[04:32] <nyxie> Hudson_H: ok.. hm..
[04:32] <mahmud> ok erm, to drop a bomb shell in this forum, i think windows is better than ubuntu - most things work out of the box in windows and not in ubuntu yet - and i cant work out how to fix problems in ubuntu whereas in general a google search finds the fixes for windows...
[04:33] <jsimmons> mahmud stop being a troll
[04:33] <juztin> mahmud, well i think windows is sucks!......just to drop a bomb shell...
[04:33] <juztin> wb SonicChao
[04:33] <SonicChao> O_o
[04:33] <abstractism> mahmud: guess you've never used a mac then
[04:33] <oskude_> jsimmons, well, i nver had a 200gb hd... maybe trying to manually patition and do like 10gb for / (ext3) and ~500mb swap and leave the rest unpartitioned...
[04:33] <SonicChao> This is weird
[04:33] <blinky> mahmud, why even bother saying that?
[04:33] <SonicChao> :D
[04:33] <Hobbsee> mahmud: dont troll.
[04:33] <mahmud> :), cos it got ur attention :)
[04:33] <mnk> hahahaha
[04:33] <Hobbsee> juztin: dont troll, you too
[04:33] <blinky> does anyone know why all the popup notification things i get from azureus do not go away? i click hide but it doesnt do anything?
[04:33] <juztin> SonicChao, get it working?
[04:33] <Lynoure> mahmud: I kind of feel differently about fixing problems... At least in linux I can always look at the logs. in Windows often logs give nothing.
[04:33] <blinky> i installed exactly as azureus's tutorial said
[04:33] <SonicChao> juztin: Thanks for helping
[04:33] <SonicChao> juztin: Yup
[04:34] <juztin> Hobbsee, yessir :D:D
[04:34] <Reimu> How come internet works in Windows but not ubuntu :/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17170
[04:34] <Hobbsee> juztin: :)
[04:34] <juztin> SonicChao, np....flux rocks, its all i use....there's a fluxbuntu in the works right now
[04:34] <SonicChao> juztin: It's weird...Not what you'd call a good Default Desktop Manager. :D
[04:34] <abstractism> Hobbsee: 2 points
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Nuke the Trolls
[04:34] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:34] <SonicChao> juztin: Really? Didn't know that
[04:34] <juztin> SonicChao, nah, it takes some getting used to...some configuring
[04:34] <mnk> hey guys
[04:34] <mnk> who kicked off mahmud?
[04:34] <juztin> SonicChao, check out www.fluxbuntu.org
[04:34] <Hobbsee> any other flamers around?
[04:34] <abstractism> windows just isnt' smart
[04:34] <Hobbsee> mnk: i did
[04:35] <mnk> Hobbsee, hey that wasn't nice
[04:35] <Hobbsee> mnk: the next time it happens, it'll be a kickban.
[04:35] <mnk> it was his first day on ubuntu!
[04:35] <juztin> kickban kapow!
[04:35] <Hobbsee> mnk: there's no flaming on these channels, thanks.
[04:35] <mnk> he's frustrated
[04:35] <mnk> grr
[04:35] <Hobbsee> mnk: he's free to rejoin
[04:35] <SonicChao> juztin: Okay...still, you've gotta admit, when you first boot it, it's weird
[04:35] <blinky> so does anyone feel like helping me with my problem?
[04:35] <Hobbsee> mnk: it was more of a warning
[04:35] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: He didn't seem like a troll, asked a question earlier and responded to help
[04:35] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: okay, fair enough
[04:35] <mnk> hey we need to be patient with the newbies
[04:36] <juztin> SonicChao, yeah...i was pretty used to it though, cuz i used to use blackbox, and flux is kind of a spinoff of blackbox
[04:36] <mnk> u gotta admit, coming from a bindows world it is frustrating when things just don't work
[04:36] <tiredbones> Does anyone here know where I could ask a question on evolution problem I'm having?
[04:36] <Hudson_H> mnk thx maybe u can answer me then :-)
[04:36] <Hobbsee> mnk: sure
[04:36] <SonicChao> juztin: How do you get BlackBox? I'm trying out every desktop manager.....at least every mainstream one. :D
[04:36] <mnk> Hudson_H, what's ur q?
[04:36] <oskude_> mnk, and why doesnt it "just work" ?
[04:36] <juztin> SonicChao, it might be in the repos...try sudo apt-get install blackbox
[04:36] <jsimmons> does linux have a problem with large hard drives?
[04:37] <blinky> Hobbsee, Lynoure, when i said "why even bother saying that here" he responded with ":), cos it got ur attention :)"
[04:37] <mnk> oskude_, i know why!! but it doesn't make it less frustrating for newbies
[04:37] <SonicChao> juztin: Okay....dumb question, where is the terminal in this thing?
[04:37] <juztin> jsimmons, it has no prob with my 200 gig
[04:37] <Hobbsee> blinky: yeah, exactly - that was the final bit that i booted him over.
[04:37] <kevin> ok, one quick question. I want to try a different driver for my bcm 4318 wireless, I have the driver downloaded, and have the fwcutter. I need to know how to get the new driver to install from the desktop
[04:37] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons: I am running a 400 and a 160 sata here... no problems
[04:37] <Hudson_H> what does i miss ? checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:37] <juztin> SonicChao, umm...i think its under Apps somewhere...i'm not sure cuz i wrote my own custom menu a looooong time ago
[04:37] <SonicChao> juztin: Ok
[04:37] <dsah> I still can't get my ethernet to work
[04:37] <blinky> so can someone help me with azureus?
[04:37] <wheelswitch> SonicChao:  applications > accesories
[04:37] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons: are you still trying to run with both an sata and ide in the same box?
[04:37] <abstractism> but ubuntu seems to be the best distro of linux for people that are new to linux
[04:38] <kevin> Hudson_H, have you done that with sudo?
[04:38] <oskude_> mnk, optimism captainn, optimusm ;)
[04:38] <mnk> yeah i agree abstractism
[04:38] <jsimmons> after install finished and prompts to reboot, the system freezes at "Shutting down LVM volume groups". what would cause that?
[04:38] <juztin> abstractism, agreed :)
[04:38] <blinky> abstractism, im damn new to linux, and i rekon it's great
[04:38] <wheelswitch> it is somthing every one should have in their top panel or somewhere easy to access
[04:38] <Hudson_H> yes
[04:38] <kevin> ok
[04:38] <Hudson_H> mnk yes
[04:38] <juztin> wheelswitch, he's using flux
[04:38] <SonicChao> juztin: Okay, found an XTerm...:D
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> dsaj what hardware... Is that that mb with two nics from yesterday or am I confused
[04:38] <abstractism> yeah I still don't know everything about linux
[04:39] <Hobbsee> !azureus > blinky
[04:39] <juztin> SonicChao, great :D
[04:39] <wheelswitch> juztin:  oh sorry
[04:39] <dsah> Jack_Sparrow, yep
[04:39] <Reimu> can someone please help me? I can't seem to get internet in ubuntu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17170
[04:39] <juztin> SonicChao, the first thing you'll probly want to do is edit that crap menu it comes stock with
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> dsaj  Did you try shutting down one of them
[04:39] <dsah> yes
[04:39] <SonicChao> juztin: Maybe, it's just a test...I'm doing it to compare Desktop Managers
[04:39] <abstractism> I find that ubuntu is almost like MacOS X in terms of user friendliness
[04:39] <dsah> several times, on both of them
[04:39] <blinky> Hobbsee, i already have it installed, but it isnt working, and I dont even know how to uninstall it to try again
[04:40] <oskude_> Reimu, could you post your /etc/network/interfaces too ?
[04:40] <juztin> SonicChao, ah ok...well tell me what you think when you try a few more :D
[04:40] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow still can't install... :(
[04:40] <Hobbsee> blinky: sudo aptitude remove --purge azureus, if it was installed via apt-get
[04:40] <Reimu> oskude_: one sec, gotta boot back into ubuntu
[04:40] <SonicChao> juztin: It was in the repos
[04:40] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: i dont think the --purge works with aptitude
[04:40] <juztin> SonicChao, i'm assuming you've already tried KDE?
[04:40] <oskude_> Reimu, and the "right" command is "sudo /etc/init.d/networking start"
[04:40] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: it does, it doesnt with apt-get
[04:40] <SonicChao> juztin: Tried XFCE, GNOME, KDE, FluxBox
[04:40] <Reimu> ok
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  HAve you tried to install with just one of your IDE's installed?
[04:41] <juztin> SonicChao, i like xfce too...its just a little heavier than flux tho
[04:41] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: sudo apt-get remove --purge works atleast it did in dapper
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  and not an sata
[04:41] <Reimu> brb
[04:41] <Hobbsee> blinky: oh, yeah, right, you should be able to use sudo apt-get remove --purge azureus then
[04:41] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: interesting, i've only ever used aptitude to purge
[04:41] <SonicChao> juztin: Right now XFCE is the favorite :)
[04:41] <blinky> Hobbsee, to uninstall?
[04:41] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow the install actually finishes and prompts to reboot, but the system freezes at "Shutting down LVM volume groups"
[04:41] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: i think it broke too, on your edgy
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  and not just turned off in bios
[04:41] <Hobbsee> blinky: yes
[04:41] <gnomefreak> it did it was removed
[04:41] <blinky> Hobbsee, thanks
[04:42] <juztin> SonicChao, i like it a lot too...might get it today in fact, as i've removed it....haven't used it in awhile
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons: agreed, but the install may just think it has a valid install...
[04:42] <_absolution_> hey how do you get "clamav" to scan?
[04:42] <JTSilius> here's my problem: I cant get any screen resolution other than 640x800. i tried reconfiguring xorg and it gave me the options for higher resolutions but in gnome i cant select any other resolution than 640x800. my video card is a 3dfx voodoo 3 3000, 16 megs of memory on it.
[04:42] <juztin> SonicChao, did you get regular xfce, or the xubuntu-desktop package?
[04:42] <SonicChao> juztin: Xubuntu-Desktop Package....that's what the instructions said
[04:43] <juztin> _absolution_, might wanna ask #clamav
[04:43] <Hudson_H> can no one help me?????
[04:43] <SonicChao> Hudson_H: What's wrong?
[04:43] <blinky> Hobbsee, "Azureus is not installed, so not removed" however I have got it installed, because if I go to the azureus directory (in home folder) and double click one of the files, I get the splash screen. the program, however, does not appear, and I cannot see my notification arrea to see if it is running, because an azureus notification is in the way
[04:44] <mahmud> thanks for whoever booted me off
[04:44] <Hudson_H> SonicChao: while i trie to compile with sudo i get this error checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:44] <oskude> JTSilius, could be that youre monitor settings are not correct
[04:44] <andrew__> hello all
[04:44] <Hobbsee> blinky: odd.
[04:44] <Lynoure> blinky: Did you install it manually, by compiling, for example?
[04:44] <SonicChao> Hudson_H: Sorry, I have to reboot my machine, I'll brb
[04:44] <gnomefreak> Hudson_H: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:44] <mrproper> Is us.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[04:44] <blinky> Lynoure, I'll get you a link to the azureus tutorial
[04:44] <andrew__> I'm having some trouble getting my ATI drivers working
[04:45] <oskude> JTSilius, you could start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:45] <Hudson_H> gnomefreak: done that
[04:45] <JTSilius> oskude: thank you
[04:45] <mahmud> Hobbsee: are we not allowed to have our own opinion on what we believe is a better operating system?
[04:45] <juztin> andrew__, whats the problem?
[04:45] <blinky> Lynoure,  Hobbsee : http://azureus.sourceforge.net/howto_linux.php
[04:45] <andrew__> I had a hoary install which then I apt-get dist-upgrade to dapper
[04:45] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow well, disconnecting hardware just to get an OS installed is a load of 80's crap, but i'll try it... :/
[04:45] <andrew__> but when I follow the dapper install instructions they don't work
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  for an anology, If I write a letter, put in the email address (that I assume is valid) and send it off I expect it to get where I sent it.  But if something in that address is wrong, I wont know it...  It just wont get to where I evpected.
[04:45] <gnomefreak> mrproper: its a good chance here is a command to fix that sudo sed -e 's/us\.//' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:45] <Lynoure> blinky: Was that a yes or no answer to the question?
[04:45] <juztin> andrew__, i got a link for you that might help
[04:45] <andrew__> okay
[04:46] <inono> Which eclipse packages do I need to run radrails ?
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  JUst trying to help you define your exact problem..
[04:46] <mrproper> gnomefreak, What was wrong with it?
[04:46] <gnomefreak> andrew__: upgrade to breezy than to dapper
[04:46] <juztin> andrew__, i had a lot of trouble too, till i followed this guide : http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[04:46] <blinky> Lynoure, that was a no. I downloaded a file, and wrote two or three commands into terminal, which the tutorial told me to
[04:46] <andrew__> thats the one I tired
[04:46] <andrew__> but it wont load properly
[04:46] <gnomefreak> mrproper: us archives are always ina nd out atleast for me they were
[04:46] <Lynoure> blinky: if you followed those instructions, package managers in ubuntu cannot uninstall it for you
[04:46] <mrproper> gnomefreak, Oh okay thanks.
[04:46] <Lynoure> blinky: as it is not a .deb
[04:46] <juztin> andrew__, what happens when you type fglrx-info in term?
[04:46] <andrew__> I get Mesa
[04:47] <juztin> andrew__, did you manually make the deb packages and run them?
[04:47] <peoklis> whats the best text editor or word processor? I want it to have, aspell spell checker, rectangular text sellection, autocorrect, autocomplete, regex
[04:47] <_absolution_> how do you get clamav to scan?
[04:47] <fowlduck> inono, http://www.easyeclipse.org/site/home/
[04:47] <andrew__> ya using the ati binary installer
[04:47] <blinky> Lynoure, how can i uninstall it?
[04:47] <Hudson_H> gnomefreak: done that its all there but i keep to get that error
[04:47] <juztin> andrew__, the gui installer doesn't have them for ubuntu...read the whole guide :D
[04:47] <mrDaniel> is there a 'clean way' to remove kubuntu-desktop? i have ubuntu and wanted to try kubuntu, but i dont like kde
[04:47] <oskude> peoklis, open office is for me the only word processor ;)
[04:47] <juztin> andrew__, read method 2
[04:47] <fowlduck> inono, click on distributions, they have one for ruby on rails that already has radrails installed and integrated
[04:48] <dsah> anybsdy have any ideas on how to get my PC to register a connection?
[04:48] <Lynoure> blinky: deleting all the files should do, but see my disclaimer above
[04:48] <Hobbsee> mrDaniel: sudo apt-get remove --purge libqt3-mt
[04:48] <andrew__> ????I did it says to  run ./aticonfig --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Mr Daniel... best way is fresh install of Ubuntu
[04:48] <blinky> Lynoure, ok
[04:48] <gnomefreak> Hudson_H: what are you trying to compile
[04:48] <andrew__> which I did
[04:48] <peoklis> apart from open office?
[04:48] <juztin> andrew__, oh ok you did that....did you do all the steps?
[04:48] <andrew__> yes
[04:48] <juztin> wb SonicChao
[04:48] <gnomefreak> also Hudson_H what version of ubuntu
[04:48] <SonicChao> Hudson_H: Back
[04:48] <oskude> peoklis, other i know is abiword, but newer testet, and i think kde has a fiice suit allso
[04:49] <andrew__> I think it has something to do with upgrading from hoary
[04:49] <SonicChao> juztin: I have to skip BlackBox, not downloading.
[04:49] <Hudson_H> gnomefreak:  wine for a 64 bit version i have dapper http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[04:49] <thotz> are there any openoffice 2.0.>3< packages available?
[04:49] <Hudson_H> wb SonicChao
[04:49] <juztin> andrew__, maybe so
[04:49] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow i know, i've been trying to install ubuntu since friday - i'm just a little tweakede over the problems i'm having
[04:49] <gnomefreak> thotz: not fro dapper
[04:49] <andrew__> I think this because when I run Automatix it tells me it can't install on hoary
[04:49] <oskude> peoklis, and i think emcas has all you need, but i never even started to learn it :/
[04:49] <SonicChao> juztin: I have to update my repos...I bet they removed it
[04:49] <gnomefreak> for
[04:49] <oskude> peoklis, *emacs
[04:49] <juztin> andrew__, automatix is the devil!
[04:49] <andrew__> I know
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  I have been with you on this most of the way have I not
[04:49] <andrew__> it was just to try
[04:49] <nyxie> Hudson_H: can you paste the output? paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:49] <SonicChao> !easyubuntu
[04:49] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:49] <juztin> SonicChao, you could always get it from the website
[04:49] <mrDaniel> @hobbse: will 'sudo apt-get remove --purge libqt3-mt' remove kubuntu-desktop in a clean way? and: what means --purge ?
[04:49] <gnomefreak> thotz: it also doesnt look to good that dapper will ever have it unless you build it yourself
[04:50] <gnomefreak> mrDaniel: --purge removes and clears config files
[04:50] <SonicChao> juztin: I donno how to do it that way :D, I've been using "sudo apt-get install _________" forever
[04:50] <andrew__> okay so should I make the packages for hoary
[04:50] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow yeah i know, so you probably have an idea about what i'm talking about when I say tweaked
[04:50] <juztin> andrew__, well which are you running?
[04:50] <thotz> ok thanks, gnomefreak
[04:50] <Lynoure> blinky: using packaged stuff, even if you have to make the package yourself, are nice e.g. for the reason that removing them is trivially easy and virtually brainfree :)   But java stuff still tends to take manual work currently.
[04:50] <juztin> SonicChao, you should learn, its good stuff to know :D
[04:50] <andrew__> I told you dapper
[04:50] <andrew__> but the dapper install didn't work
[04:50] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  I would have switched MB out long ago... You are tenatious
[04:51] <andrew__> and other programs have told me it's hoary
[04:51] <andrew__> so should I use hoary
[04:51] <SonicChao> juztin: lol, you're probably right, I've just been putting it off
[04:51] <juztin> andrew__, i dunno then, sorry...it worked fine for me...the only problem i had was i had to replace libGL.so.1.2 with the old version
[04:51] <Reimu> oskude: here is my interfaces http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17172
[04:51] <gnomefreak> Hudson_H: what does apt-cache policy build-essential say?
[04:51] <Hudson_H> nyxie: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17171 but a part is in dutch
[04:51] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  part of why I want to help you.. You listen and dont gripe .. well more than expected
[04:51] <oskude> Reimu, checking...
[04:51] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow i think i've installed drake more often than the devs have
[04:51] <juztin> andrew__, you could give it a shot
[04:51] <nyxie> Hudson_H: np
[04:51] <andrew__> okay I will
[04:51] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[04:51] <andrew__> then I need some help getting rid of the fglrx from module-assistant
[04:51] <Hudson_H> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17171 i just pasted it for nyxie :-)
[04:52] <andrew__> would I use the purge option
[04:52] <oskude> Reimu, omg, 3 network interfaces ? (never heard about ath)
[04:52] <juztin> andrew__, i think you do that with a text editor, no?
[04:52] <fowlduck> oskude, i've seen online ones with 4 on one card
[04:52] <AdamG> ok, so the command to mount a partition is "mount"... what's the command to unmount? "unmount"? :P
[04:52] <gnomefreak> Hudson_H: what does uname -r say?
[04:52] <oskude> Reimu, could be your cable is not connected to eth0
[04:52] <Reimu> oskude: No idea >_< also when I do 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking start' this comes up http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17173
[04:52] <andrew__> ohhh
[04:52] <Jack_Sparrow> umount
[04:52] <AdamG> ah, ok
[04:53] <andrew__> is that what disable the module does on the top of method 1
[04:53] <andrew__> *2
[04:53] <Reimu> oskude: not sure what you mean, but internet works on the same comp in windows
[04:53] <Hudson_H> gnomefreak: 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic
[04:53] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow okay - installing with just the primnary ide drive physically connected
[04:53] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  fingers crossed as always
[04:53] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow i cut my fingers off because that doesn't work for me
[04:54] <juztin> andrew__, i believe so
[04:54] <gnomefreak> Hudson_H: if there is a README or an INSTALL file handy look at them and see what version of gcc was used to build it
[04:54] <andrew__> okay cool
[04:54] <andrew__> thanks I'll try it
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Here is my lucky 4 leaf clover...
[04:54] <dsah> my networking is notworking :(
[04:54] <fowlduck> Reimu, can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces file content to pastebin?  then can you paste lspci output as well?
[04:54] <andrew__> I might be back if it doesn't work
[04:54] <juztin> andrew__, k, lemme know how it works out
[04:54] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow and as far as tenaicty goes, it's now turned into a personal thing - drake will NOT beat this redneck
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Im a redneck too.
[04:54] <oskude> Reimu, thats irrelevant, dunno if windows and linux map the same interface as "eth0"... try commenting out all other interfaces, like here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17174 and run the init.d command, if nogo, try cable in another interface and try command again...
[04:55] <juztin> jsimmons, that's the spirit!  :D
[04:55] <Reimu> fowlduck: I pasted interfaces, it is  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17172 and what is lspci
[04:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Any farther south and I would be a wetback...
[04:55] <fowlduck> Reimu, a command, try it at the console
[04:55] <fowlduck> Reimu, it probably won't work, but...
[04:55] <alejandrosack> hi
[04:55] <dsah> my networking is notworking :(
[04:56] <Reimu> ok, oskude, fowlduck, booting up in ubuntu and trying what you btoh say
[04:56] <AdamG> can I safely unmount my swap partition if I have enough RAM, or will it crash my system?
[04:56] <oskude> Reimu, lspci is like ls for filesystem, but for the pci bus
[04:56] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow you must be in brownsville
[04:56] <gnomefreak> Hudson_H: the error you are getting afaik are mainly caused by not having gcc installed using wrong gcc to compile it or not being on the right arch. 2 down last one to go if it was built/compiled with gcc3.4 you cant compile it with gcc4.0 you have to install and use gcc3.4
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> No san diego
[04:56] <oskude> Reimu, means, lspci lists all devices connected to your pci bus...
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> but I can hear the Mariachies
[04:56] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow i used to live in el cajon (6 yrs ago)
[04:56] <fowlduck> oskude, i think he's in vmware
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Cool... Santee
[04:56] <AdamG> eh, whatever, I'll just do a liveCD repartition, that's simplest :)
[04:57] <Jack_Sparrow> on the lake
[04:57] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow i'm in san antonio now
[04:57] <fowlduck> oskude, i am and my network config is identical
[04:57] <soundray> AdamG: running swapoff will not crash your system
[04:57] <AdamG> ah, thx
[04:57] <Hudson_H> gnomefreak: i don't find the gcc version yet
[04:57] <fowlduck> oskude, and i've had issues with running it in bridged mode, it will only work for me in NAT mode
[04:57] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow (i lived iu santee just before i moved)
[04:57] <oskude> fowlduck, well, i never even tried virtul machines... who needs that...
[04:57] <Lunar_Lamp> ok, really silly question here.  on a pc i don't know, and want to install 3d graphcs drivers - how do i find out what gfx card is installed?
[04:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Spent a lot of time in San Antonio... nice town..   HAve you been to Shlitterbahn.. (No more off topic sorry)
[04:57] <gnomefreak> Hudson_H: it might be easier to ask in #wine-hq
[04:58] <gnomefreak> !wine
[04:58] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:58] <soundray> Lunar_Lamp: try 'lspci'
[04:58] <fowlduck> oskude, it's nice to be able to revert to snapshots
[04:58] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[04:58] <Lunar_Lamp> soundray, thats the one!
[04:58] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow yeah, an dsix flags and splashtown and i live right behind sea world
[04:58] <oskude> fowlduck, well, i like to have the "full power" of pc in _one_ os, be it server or desktop...
[04:59] <fowlduck> oskude,  it's not an "all the time" thing
[04:59] <fowlduck> oskude, like right now I'm working on a project that requires a fresh ubuntu install
[04:59] <gnomefreak> Hudson_H: its eitrher #wine-hq or #winehq i cant remember
[04:59] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  what brand of sata drive do you have there?
[05:00] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow wd i think
[05:00] <fowlduck> oskude, that would suck to do on a machine with rebooting and everything, and anything i don't want to do to the vm i can escape out of and do in my host os
[05:00] <Hudson_H> gnomefreak: gcc 2.7.2 is used
[05:00] <oskude> fowlduck, ok, for that its good (playing a round, and saving hardware costs) but in "production" useless to me (lets continue in offtopic, if needs:)
[05:00] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow yup wd
[05:00] <gnomefreak> Hudson_H: open synaptic and look for it
[05:00] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow they were fine on my other mb
[05:00] <Stormx2> Guys, I have a question about partitioning a disk. Gimme a second
[05:00] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow when i was running 5.04
[05:00] <fowlduck> oskude, nah, that's fine, it really doesn't help either of us
[05:01] <dsah> any ideas on anyhting I can do to get my ethernet working?
[05:01] <fowlduck> dsah, are you that guy i was talking to?
[05:01] <dsah> probably
[05:01] <oskude> fowlduck, yeah, but maybe as in  "entertainment" ;)
[05:01] <Stormx2> OK, what is a good tool for resizing NTFS? And don't say ntfsresize cause it won't work :(
[05:01] <dsah> I was here yesterday with the same question
[05:01] <Hudson_H> gnomefreak:  i have gcc 4:4.0.3-1
[05:01] <fowlduck> oskude, right right, i actually have some stuff to get to
[05:02] <fowlduck> dsah, nope, I was talkin to someone like a minute ago
[05:02] <gnomefreak> Hudson_H: yes i know thats what build-essential installs by default but now you need to download and install the 2.7 version that it was built with (i would use synaptic) to do that
[05:02] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow install is done - reboioting
[05:02] <oskude> fowlduck, btw, are you using virtual machine under linux ?
[05:03] <Bassetts> can someone help me with using istanbul?
[05:03] <fowlduck> oskude, of course :)
[05:03] <oskude> fowlduck, then its ok ;)
[05:03] <Stormx2> Guys - Good bootable CD for resizing partitions?
[05:03] <fowlduck> oskude, i use suse for my desktop, ubuntu for dev, forensics, etc
[05:03] <fowlduck> oskude, it's so slow in windows, ugh
[05:03] <Bassetts> with instanbul my cursor has a yellow box around it
[05:03] <Bobster> i would use maxblast for partitions
[05:04] <thotz> Stormx2: I used Knoppix (qtparted)
[05:04] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow well spank my ass and call me honey
[05:04] <Jack_Sparrow> HI Honey
[05:04] <oskude> fowlduck, have you tried xen ? (i think we should stop or go to offtopic)
[05:04] <fowlduck> off-topic it is
[05:04] <Stormx2> thotz: That tries to load the partition table then inexplicably crashes!!
[05:04] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  I know it isnt a solution.. but it does show the exact problem eh?
[05:04] <jsimmons> should i shut down and reconnect my other drives now?
[05:05] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  give it a try
[05:05] <Reimu> oskude, fowlduck: Here is my lspci output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17175, and when I comment everything other than the first two ones, (eth0 and something) then start networking, in just gives me a * starting network devices or something
[05:05] <Elazar> Running Dapper, have already run Update Manager, and am having trouble installing Flash Player as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b. Firefox (1.5.0.4) keeps prompting me to install the plug-in. Any advice?
[05:05] <thotz> Stormx2: newest Knoppix 5?
[05:05] <DENiAL[design] > waiting for ubuntu to download.. ack.. slow a** dsl..
[05:05] <DENiAL[design] > :)
[05:05] <Stormx2> thotz: Nah i think it was knoppix 3
[05:06] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  you might be able to install XP on sata and switch OS in bios for now?
[05:06] <fowlduck> Reimu, are you in vmware?
[05:06] <Reimu> fowlduck: no, I am in windows
[05:06] <haze76> Does Kubuntu not boot into a GUI?
[05:06] <Reimu> dual boot
[05:06] <oskude> Rede, hmm, i only see 1 eth controller
[05:06] <Jack_Sparrow> haze yes it does
[05:06] <thotz> Stormx2: Yeah, I used (use) Knoppix 3.7. Perhaps a new Knoppix version helps.
[05:06] <Reimu> haze76: it boots into a GUI but you can select an option to make it not boot into a GUI
[05:06] <varsendaggr> vmware is the best way to go
[05:06] <haze76> I'm trying to install ubuntu for PPC. Ubuntu had too much problems, so I'm going to try kubuntu, but it boots into text mode. How do I start the installer from there?
[05:07] <fowlduck> Reimu, hmmm, i dunno then man, sorry
[05:07] <Reimu> T_T
[05:07] <Reimu> fowlduck: oh I should also note
[05:07] <haze76> Reimu: kubuntu PPC seems to boot into a text mode, whereas ubuntu boots into gui, albeit with a lot of bizzarre problems
[05:07] <lmierze1> time
[05:07] <oskude> Reimu, dont worry. your network controller is supperted 100% by linux..
[05:08] <gfhhfgdhj> anyone
[05:08] <Reimu> fowlduck: that when my other computer (a kubuntu one) is off, I have internet fine, but when it is on, ubuntu can't get internet, only windows
[05:08] <haze76> How do I start the installer from text mode?
[05:08] <gfhhfgdhj> knows from kvirc?
[05:08] <thotz> Stormx2: I don't know, but perhaps also the Ubuntu- Desktop- CD can do this?? (gparted)
[05:08] <Stormx2> thotz: Tried...
[05:08] <Stormx2> thotz: It wouldn't resize it
[05:08] <Elazar> Running Dapper, have already run Update Manager, and am having trouble installing Flash Player as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b. Firefox (1.5.0.4) keeps prompting me to install the plug-in. Any advice?
[05:09] <haze76> It really sucks that Yellow Dog Linux is the ONLY Apple distro that actually works
[05:09] <haze76> Cause I hate yellow dog
[05:09] <fowlduck> Reimu, say what?
[05:09] <Jack_Sparrow> thotz: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[05:09] <gfhhfgdhj> Elazar u have any knowledge of kvirc?
[05:09] <Jack_Sparrow> gfhhfgdhj: I use kvirc
[05:09] <Hudson_H> gnomefreak:  if i trie to compile it with ./tools/wineinstall it says permition denied,and if i put root b4 it then it says rerun as a user?
[05:09] <Reimu> fowlduck: I have internet in ubuntu when the other comp in the house is off, but when it is on internet only works in windows
[05:10] <Elazar> gfhhfgdhj: No clue what you're talking about.
[05:10] <thotz> Stormx2: Ok, last tipp :-) --> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:10] <gfhhfgdhj> Jack_Sparrow how do i change the banmask?
[05:10] <fowlduck> Reimu, hmmm, is the ubuntu one using dhcp?
[05:10] <gnomefreak> Hudson_H: using sudo?
[05:10] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow doeswn't work with the sata drives connected
[05:10] <fowlduck> Reimu, the other one
[05:10] <Reimu> fowlduck: I believe so
[05:10] <oskude> Reimu, look what IPs the both machines have "ifconfig" in the terminal
[05:10] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  did you set the bios to IDE first
[05:10] <Hudson_H> gnomefreak: then it say don't use it as root trie it als user
[05:10] <Jack_Sparrow> gfhhfgdhj: NEver had to mess with bandmask
[05:11] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow yeah
[05:11] <fowlduck> Reimu, if there is an ip address conflict, it could explain the weird behavior
[05:11] <gnomefreak> Hudson_H: im not sure i would try #wine-hq   i dont play with wine in general
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  then the sata in your box is the problem
[05:11] <gfhhfgdhj> anyone knows how to change the BANMASK in KVIRC?
[05:11] <Reimu> oskude: but even if there is an ip address conflict, shouldn't I be able to use ifdown and ifup?
[05:11] <Hudson_H> gnomefreak: there answers no one
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  play with Ub for a bit while you have it running
[05:12] <gnomefreak> Hudson_H: than i dont know im sorry
[05:12] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow you mean the bios is hosed...
[05:12] <Bassetts> when using istanbul i get a yellow box around my cursor, any help?
[05:12] <qmx> Hi everyone
[05:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Not the bios.. there are some real issues with that sata firmware
[05:12] <oskude> Reimu, i think so (note: i never use ifdown, i use /etc/init.d/networking)
[05:12] <Hudson_H> SonicChao: can u help me further?
[05:12] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  windows too...
[05:12] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow windows has been fine
[05:12] <Elazar> Running Dapper, have already run Update Manager, and am having trouble installing Flash Player as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b. Firefox (1.5.0.4) keeps prompting me to install the plug-in. Any advice?
[05:12] <fowlduck> Reimu, that is weird man, I'd try checking the ips
[05:13] <oskude> Reimu, maybe you could use static ip address (yeah, is only a workaround)
[05:13] <Reimu> fowlduck: alright, so what would I do if the ips are the same?
[05:13] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons: there were issues when transfering files over 4 gig
[05:13] <SonicChao> Hudson_H: I am sorry, I cannot.
[05:13] <Reimu> and what would Ido if they aren't the same
[05:13] <fowlduck> Reimu, set them manually to something different
[05:13] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  drive to drive
[05:13] <oskude> Reimu, thats weird, both use dhcp and get same ip ?
[05:13] <dsah> well I fixed something...
[05:13] <hangfire> Elizar- use easyubuntu
[05:13] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow don't have any files that big :)
[05:13] <Reimu> or whatever, brb, going to boot up in ubuntu and check ips
[05:13] <fowlduck> Reimu, and if they aren't the same, then we've eliminated a possible ssue
[05:13] <qmx> is there some kind of package building howto?
[05:13] <qmx> or better
[05:14] <dsah> now instead of instantly not being able to find anything, it does look, but still can't find them
[05:14] <fowlduck> qmx, yes
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  I know we dont have a solution but at least we now know the question and you have a Ubuntu install to play with for the moment
[05:14] <fowlduck> qmx, all your documentation needs, including packaging: help.ubuntu.com
[05:14] <oskude> qmx, "or better" make&&make install&&checkinstall ;) (but theres lot more to it to make a good debian package)
[05:14] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow gonna try booting with the sata controller disabled in bios
[05:15] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow failed again
[05:15] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  there is a known issue with ide and sata using Ubuntu (and probably other distros as well)
[05:15] <gnomefreak> oskude: you forget ./configure? and added a make install step when checkinstall does that step
[05:15] <qmx> oskude: fowlduck: where we suggest/contribute packages at ubuntu?
[05:15] <oskude> gnomefreak, yeah, forgot ./configure, damn what 1 beer can do :/
[05:15] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  must be physically disconnected.. blah
[05:15] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:16] <fowlduck> qmx, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation
[05:16] <qmx> fowlduck: thanks!
[05:16] <Al2O3> is the server Cd install as GUI friendly as the Desktop, only with more 'tools' at the CLI available?
[05:16] <qmx> oskude: thanks too
[05:16] <fowlduck> qmx, no problem
[05:16] <skavenge> Al2O3: server doesnt install a gui by default
[05:17] <Reimu> my kubuntu comp's ip is normal, but the ubuntu one seems to have no ip
[05:17] <Al2O3> skavenge, but can be done thru altering the install stuff, or is that pretty involved?
[05:17] <fowlduck> oskude, do you think it could be a MAC address conflict?
[05:17] <Reimu> it is like fe80 something, and I can't see an ip address anywhere on ifconfig's output
[05:17] <oskude> Reimu, ok, so dhcp didnt work... hmm, maybe the drivers are not loaded...
[05:17] <skavenge> Al2O3: you can apt-get install one later with no headaches but initially it comeos with no gui, strictly cli
[05:18] <fowlduck> oskude, i leave it in your capable hands
[05:18] <Reimu> oskude: drivers? but it works when one computer is off >_>
[05:18] <oskude> Reimu, and with "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" dont get any ip neither ?
[05:18] <Reimu> lemme try
[05:18] <Al2O3> skavenge, ty
[05:18] <oskude> fowlduck, :/ ;)
[05:18] <skavenge> np
[05:18] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow i disabled legacy usb support, aND AM trying again
[05:18] <oskude> Reimu, ah yeah, forgot that, hmm...
[05:18] <Elazar> hangfire: EasyUbuntu isn't doing squat. I still get prompted to install the plug-in and the install still fails every time I try it.
[05:18] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow crap again...
[05:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Good thought
[05:19] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  do you have usb 2.0 enabled?
[05:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Drop that back to 1.1
[05:19] <Smiley> hey guys, do you have some db which says which machines boot with ubuntu
[05:19] <dsah> what items of 2 machines on the same server, but on a hub be different [like IP, subnet mask, etc]  ?
[05:19] <Smiley> especially as my laptop works brilliantly
[05:20] <Jack_Sparrow> what is db
[05:20] <Reimu> oskudo: nope, it talks about DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval (random #)
[05:20] <skavenge> Elazar: you are restarting firefox after the install right? just checking
[05:20] <soundray> Does Dapper support NCQ, and is it a good idea to buy a hard disk drive with that feature?
[05:20] <Elazar> skavenge: Yes.
[05:20] <skavenge> k
[05:20] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow it's the sata drives...
[05:20] <Jack_Sparrow> argh
[05:20] <Reimu> oskude: might as well set up a static ip, how would I do that?
[05:20] <Bassetts> has anyone got xvidcap working?
[05:20] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow i wonder if there are any new drivers
[05:20] <skavenge> Smiley: the laptop list is on the wiki
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  more likely you would need firmware
[05:21] <oskude> Reimu, try "man interface.conf" thers all the info, ask again if unclear
[05:21] <robertj> juztin: thanks for your list of services
[05:21] <juztin> robertj, np :)
[05:21] <dagrump> remui: both computers have same name ?
[05:21] <Reimu> that is the manual for setting up a static ip? ok
[05:22] <Reimu> 'no manual entry for interface.conf'
[05:22] <Reimu> oh wait
[05:22] <oskude> Reimu, its the "manual" help file for interfaces.conf
[05:22] <Kacher> hi all
[05:22] <gfhhfgdhj> anyone knows how to change the BANMASK in KVIRC?
[05:23] <gfhhfgdhj> version 3.2.0
[05:23] <Smiley> skavenge, do you have a link to the wiki (sorry im not being self helping, im a gentoo user, i just thought i would drop by and let you guys know that it boots fine on a Dell Latitude 100L.
[05:23] <Kacher> help me!!
[05:23] <Reimu> oskude: I just went into the folder and I got it, but how do I set up a static ip?
[05:23] <skavenge> Smiley: ill find it one second
[05:23] <soundray> !helpme
[05:23] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:23] <abstractism> how do I get m4a files to work in rhythmbox?
[05:24] <_absolution_> !kubuntu
[05:24] <oskude> Reimu, sec
[05:24] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:24] <Kacher> i work from Ubuntu 6.06
[05:24] <oskude> man interfaces.conf
[05:24] <Bassetts> can someone help me with my repos?? some of them wont update :(
[05:24] <Jack_Sparrow> gfhhfgdhj:  quick google says banmask removed in favor of setmask
[05:24] <gfhhfgdhj> there is a command setmask?
[05:24] <Kacher> hto to po ruskomu govorit?
[05:24] <Jack_Sparrow> gfhhfgdhj:  quick google is something you may want to TRY in the future
[05:24] <_absolution_> !xserver
[05:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about xserver
[05:24] <skavenge> Smiley: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell?highlight=%28laptop%29 looks like Latitude 100L is on the list already
[05:25] <Smiley> ah ok skavenge; cheers for your help ^_^ good luck with ubuntuage, i might be trying to get my gf to use it (can't be bothered to build a gentoo system just for her)
[05:25] <Smiley> especially if shes not going to use it :
[05:26] <skavenge> good luck
[05:26] <Kacher>   !!!
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !russian
[05:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about russian
[05:26] <soundray> !ru
[05:26] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[05:26] <Kacher> !rusian
[05:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about rusian
[05:26] <oskude> Reimu, sorry, the command was "man interfaces" that gives the manual, heres how your file could look like  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17176 (and maybe with "gateway 192.168.0.1" too)
[05:27] <Kacher> !ru
[05:27] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[05:27] <Amaranth> Kacher: /join #ubuntu-ru
[05:27] <Kacher> 
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> da
[05:27] <Reimu> oskude: ok, but what ip adress number should I put? how do I know what number to put >_>
[05:27] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow maybe I can get away with an add-on sata card instead of buying a whole new motherboard
[05:28] <oskude> Reimu, what ip does the kubuntu machine have ?
[05:28] <Kacher> !ru
[05:28] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[05:28] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  I would think so... check hardware list for Linux support
[05:28] <intelligi> My computer refuses to come back from hibernation most of the time. What is the problem?
[05:28] <Reimu> oskude: 169.254.164.219
[05:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Need suggestion for add in SATA card for use with Linux/Ubuntu
[05:29] <jsimmons> i'm there, but i sin't spending more for this card than i did for the mb itself...
[05:29] <Aragorn_Guardian> my hwclock is different from my sys clock. changing the clock could be dangerous for my running daemons? i need reboot after change hwclock?
[05:29] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  those were 20 - 30
[05:29] <soundray> intelligi: I have that with some of my machines, and not others. Sometimes it helps to edit ACPI- and suspend-related settings in /etc/rc.d
[05:29] <oskude> Reimu, then try 169.254.164.220 (and look that you take the same netmask)
[05:29] <soundray> intelligi: sorry, that's /etc/default
[05:30] <Reimu> ok
[05:30] <monomaniacpat> anyone here good with wireless mice? USB?
[05:30] <Jowi> Aragorn_Guardian: which clock is correct, sw or hw?
[05:30] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow i'm on the linuxmafia site now
[05:30] <Aragorn_Guardian> sw
[05:30] <Bassetts> can someone give me their sources.list with universe, multiverse and backports? mine does not work
[05:30] <skavenge> !easysource
[05:30] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:30] <Jowi> Aragorn_Guardian: how much do they differ?
[05:30] <Reimu> oskude: ok, I guess I should comment everything except the net iface eth0 inet static?
[05:30] <Aragorn_Guardian> 3 hours
[05:30] <Bassetts> skavenge: thanks
[05:30] <gfhhfgdhj> Jack_Sparrow i cant change it
[05:30] <skavenge> np
[05:30] <gfhhfgdhj> :/
[05:30] <oskude> Reimu, yup, as in here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17176
[05:30] <Aragorn_Guardian> Jowi, seems my timezone
[05:31] <Jowi> Aragorn_Guardian: yeah, can be bad
[05:31] <Kacher>  
[05:31] <Jowi> Aragorn_Guardian: is the hw in the future or past ?
[05:31] <Kacher>   
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  this is a good read http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[05:31] <Jowi> !ru
[05:31] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[05:31] <Aragorn_Guardian> hw is in the past
[05:31] <Kacher> i know
[05:31] <Jowi> ah Kacher :)
[05:32] <Kacher> i dont write -ru
[05:32] <Aragorn_Guardian> Jowi, my crontab runs before the right time... :/
[05:32] <Jack_Sparrow> gfhhfgdhj:  try the Kvirc site....
[05:32] <monomaniacpat> !mouse
[05:32] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[05:32] <Jowi> Aragorn_Guardian: so it should be safe to set the hw clock forward to the correct time
[05:32] <J-_> I've enabled the GOK keyboard, figured it'd help me with typing, but i can't seem to close it now.. any ideas?
[05:32] <Jack_Sparrow> gfhhfgdhj: that is where I found the command you wanted
[05:32] <Jowi> Aragorn_Guardian: are you using ntp?
[05:33] <Strykr-Sleep> does anyone know a good place to download apps?? i can only find gnome ones
[05:33] <Aragorn_Guardian> yes
[05:33] <Kacher> why i dont read any words in rusian?
[05:33] <Strykr> where lol
[05:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Strykr: and what OS desktop are you using
[05:33] <Ignite_> hey, i added the repo for the latest amarok version (official Kubuntu repo) but its version 1.4.0a and the latest is 1.4.1 with a ton of new features i'm _dying_ to try, anyone know where i can get a package for the latest version? please? >_<
[05:34] <SonicChao> Strykr: If you find one, tell me, ok?
[05:34] <Strykr> gnoppix live CD 2.1
[05:34] <Aragorn_Guardian> i see that i can delete /etc/adjtime. and so make adjusts
[05:34] <Strykr> but i have it installed as os
[05:34] <SonicChao> Strykr: This happens to be #ubuntu
[05:34] <Strykr> ya
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Strykr: If you are running Gnome desktop then you will be looking at Gnome apps
[05:34] <SonicChao> Strykr: For Ubuntu support O_o
[05:34] <Reimu> oskude: I did what you said, and put the same netmask as my kubuntu machine, but the internet doesn't work >_>
[05:35] <Strykr> alright
[05:35] <Strykr> thx
[05:35] <Strykr> the desktop tho is ubuntu
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Strykr: You can add apps with synaptis
[05:35] <Jowi> Aragorn_Guardian: so you get the correct time from a server or ..? (/etc/ntp.conf should have the correct server in it)
[05:35] <oskude> Reimu, did you do "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" ?
[05:35] <Reimu> oskude: did both restart and start
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Strykr: Ubuntu desktop is Gnome
[05:35] <Aragorn_Guardian> Jowi, yes. pool.ntp.org
[05:36] <oskude> Reimu, and does "ifconfig" say any ip address ? (no ipv6;)
[05:36] <Strykr> o didnt know that
[05:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Strykr: Kbuntu desktop is KDE the two main desktops
[05:36] <Reimu> oskude: ifconfig, shows only lo O_O
[05:36] <Reimu> oskude: no eth0
[05:36] <Jowi> Aragorn_Guardian: if you get the correct time from that ntp server, then the hw clock should be updated to match that time, no?
[05:36] <boga> How do I restart the sound system in Dapper?
[05:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Np
[05:36] <Strykr> k well thanks im downloading the program i needed now thats all
[05:37] <Strykr> bye
[05:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Strykr: We can still answer general questions for you
[05:37] <Strykr> i have no others
[05:37] <Strykr> lol
[05:37] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[05:37] <nyxie> boga: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[05:37] <Jack_Sparrow> yet
[05:37] <Strykr> thats all i needed
[05:37] <Strykr> :)
[05:37] <boga> thanx
[05:37] <oskude> Reimu, hmm, had that yesterday too at work, (but with dhcp) with static ip i got everything to work, and what was weird, after reboot of router, dhcp worked again...
[05:37] <Strykr> well see in a few hours lol
[05:37] <nyxie> np, hope it help.
[05:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Strykr: what prog were you after
[05:38] <Aragorn_Guardian> Jowi, no... :/
[05:38] <Jack_Sparrow> are you loading
[05:38] <Reimu> oskude: ok, rebooting router, so my internet would disconnect from irc for a moment
[05:38] <Keller> hi
[05:38] <Jowi> Aragorn_Guardian: will investigate. brb
[05:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Hello
[05:38] <Aragorn_Guardian> Jowi, nice... thanks by help...
[05:38] <Keller> how are you ppl?
[05:39] <Aragorn_Guardian> gonna read more and back soon.
[05:39] <Aragorn_Guardian> thanks
[05:39] <Raptor4128> does anyone know if edgy's locale problem has been fixed?
[05:39] <Keller> it's my first time here; is it possible to get some help in this room?
[05:39] <usuario> njknjkl
[05:39] <usuario> m,l
[05:39] <usuario> l,l
[05:39] <Hobbsee> Raptor4128: see ubuntu+1 and yeah it did
[05:39] <IdleOne> !op
[05:39] <michaels> what app can give me a floating widget-like icon dock along the lines of kooldock? I saw something like that in a screenie once and I can't find the real thing.
[05:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about op
[05:39] <skavenge> #ubuntu+1 is the edgy channel, might want to ask there
[05:39] <Hobbsee> usuario: english only please
[05:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Keller: we are fine and ready to help if you have a question else  #Ubuntu-offtopic
[05:40] <Jowi> Aragorn_Guardian: maybe you should use "hwclock --systohc" (sets hardware clock to system time)
[05:40] <skavenge> michaels: gdesklets?
[05:40] <Aragorn_Guardian> hum...
[05:40] <Jowi> Aragorn_Guardian: probably need a "sudo" for that to work
[05:40] <dxdemetriou> Where are saved the shortcuts from the menus on panel?
[05:40] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice...
[05:40] <michaels> skavenge: is there that kind of dock there?
[05:40] <Aragorn_Guardian> gonna try...
[05:40] <Aragorn_Guardian> i back later here...
[05:40] <Aragorn_Guardian> thanks by help
[05:40] <Jowi> np Aragorn_Guardian
[05:40] <IdleOne> morning all. need help getting update manager working. I get a " unable to lock file" error. any ideas?
[05:40] <skavenge> michaels: i believe so .. google it and im sure you'd find a screenshot
[05:40] <skavenge> !info gdesklets
[05:40] <ubotu> gdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 465 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[05:41] <hastesaver> IdleOne, run as root (gksudo ...)
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> IdleOne:  do you have apt and synaptic both open?
[05:41] <BHSPitLappy> hey all
[05:41] <Keller> Jack_Sparrow: thanks, my problem is with running ubuntu on my laptop Toshiba satellite m60-161; I have 5.05 and now the new one 6.06 but i can't get them run, i also tried 5.05 on my old pc (sold already so can't test 6.06); the problem is that after loading ubuntu, PCMCIA and that stuff (i'm a beginner) screen becomes black and there is nothing i can do
[05:41] <monomaniacpat> Can anyone point me in the direction of help to get a MS Wireless Optical Mouse 2.0 clicking properly? It sometimes won't respond
[05:41] <IdleOne> Jack_Sparrow, it says i may have apt running but I dont think I do
[05:41] <Raito> oskude: ok, I restarted the router but I still don't see the eth0
[05:42] <tritium> Raito: restarting a router won't bring up an interface
[05:42] <hastesaver> IdleOne, how are you starting it? From a menu / from a commandline / ... ?
[05:42] <IdleOne> hastesaver, from the menu
[05:42] <oskude> Raito, hmm, could you post your current /etc/network/interfaces file again
[05:42] <Raito> oskude: I am Reimu btw, this is the default name for this comp
[05:43] <Raito> oskude: ok, I won't include the commented lines
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> monomaniacpat:  have the MS part of that mouse euthanized  :)
[05:43] <hastesaver> IdleOne, try "ps aux | grep apt" and "ps aux | grep synaptic" -- maybe one of them is running. Of course, you can also just reboot :)
[05:43] <IdleOne> hastesaver, I have tried rebooting it's the same error
[05:43] <tritium> hastesaver: or use pgrep ;)
[05:44] <BHSPitLappy> my friend's computer has an onboard graphics adapter (which I think doesn't work) and an Nvidia geforce4 card. when we boot the live dapper cd, X fails to start, because there are no suitable screens. any thoughts? is this a symptom of having two display adapters?
[05:44] <hastesaver> tritium, thanks, I hadn't discovered pgrep :)
[05:44] <tritium> BHSPitLappy: check /var/Xorg.0.log to see what's going on
[05:44] <tritium> hastesaver: :)
[05:44] <stelki> Can I disable gnome from changing my screen resolution?
[05:44] <Raito> oskude: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17177
[05:44] <goubuntu> whats the name of the program you can use to format disk drives?
[05:44] <stelki> wops, wrong channel probably
[05:45] <michaels> thanks skavenge, looks like gDesklets StarterBar is the thing.
[05:45] <soundray> BHSPitLappy: it could be. Can you disable the onboard video in the BIOS setup? Or at least set it to use the Geforce by default?
[05:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Keller: what chipset is in that toshiba as far as video...
[05:45] <skavenge> michaels: glad it helped
[05:45] <hastesaver> stelki, what, GNOME is changing screen resolution without your permission? That's weird
[05:45] <tritium> Raito: again, restarting a router won't bring up an interface.  You need to do that.
[05:45] <Keller> ATI
[05:45] <Keller> Jack_Sparrow: ATI
[05:45] <Raito> tritium: so what should I do?
[05:45] <snedar> hi! when using gmail chat, firefox often crashes here. does anyone know a way to find the error?
[05:45] <oskude> Raito, and what does "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" say ? (pastebin if more than 1 line)
[05:45] <Deanodriver> bugger it
[05:45] <IdleOne> hastesaver, ps aux | grep apt
[05:45] <IdleOne> idleone   6334  0.0  0.7   3060   748 pts/1    S+   11:44   0:00 grep apt
[05:45] <Keller> Jack_Sparrow: more specific it's ATI radeon x700 for mobile
[05:45] <tritium> Raito: bring up the interface manually.  (sudo ifup eth0)
[05:45] <Deanodriver> oh
[05:46] <stelki> hastesaver: naw, but when I press ctrl+alt+minus/plus it doesnt work very well together with the X resolution changing thingy
[05:46] <tritium> Raito: if that works, we'll work on automating that at boot
[05:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Keller: You may need to run that as vesa video then try to get ati running
[05:46] <tritium> Raito: s/mask/netmask in your file
[05:46] <hastesaver> stelki, oh, you can probably change that from Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts, I think
[05:46] <Keller> Jack_Sparrow: could you point me somewhere to read how to do that or could you explain me? I'm a beginner in linux
[05:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Wife just got up... she is cuter that you guys so I will be away for a bit  :)
[05:46] <Raito> oskude: *Reconfiguring network interfaces [ok] 
[05:47] <stelki> hastesaver: alrighty then
[05:47] <Raito> tritium: s/mask/netmask? what is that
[05:47] <soundray> Jack_Sparrow: Hello, Poppet ;)
[05:47] <oskude> Raito, and still "ifconfig" dont show any ip ?
[05:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Keller:  Google Ubuntu and Ati
[05:47] <tritium> Raito: replace "mask" with "netmask"
[05:47] <Keller> Jack_Sparrow: thanks ;)
[05:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Np
[05:47] <Raito> tritium: ok
[05:47] <tritium> oskude: it shouldn't
[05:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry to run.. but I adore my wife  :)
[05:48] <Raito> tritium: oops, it is netmask, (I manually copied from one comp to another)
[05:48] <tritium> Raito: unless you have a line such as "auto eth0", don't expect the interface to come up automatically
[05:48] <oskude> tritium, Raito LOL, SORRY, i should stop beer or irc right now ;)
[05:48] <wilburt> mm beer
[05:48] <D1> does anyone know the url for a custom repo somebody in this channel ran? I think he was an op.
[05:49] <IdleOne> how do i end all cureent X sessions?
[05:49] <Raito> and ifup says it can't connect, and that my ip adress is an unknown host
[05:49] <tritium> Raito: "man interfaces" for details on the /etc/network/interfaces file
[05:49] <D1> !repositories
[05:49] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:49] <wilburt> whos playing?
[05:49] <skavenge> D1: your talking about seveas i think .. dont know the link though
[05:49] <D1> yeah
[05:49] <tritium> but it's months before football season ;)
[05:49] <IdleOne> !seveas
[05:49] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:49] <skavenge> bingo ;)
[05:49] <soundray> wilburt: Germany-Italy. Discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic pls
[05:50] <wilburt> soundray: hmmm :\
[05:50] <IdleOne> how do i end all cureent X sessions?
[05:50] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow looks like almost any promise card will work
[05:50] <Raito> tritium: ok, but I am in the belief that I have a correct interfaces
[05:51] <wilburt> soundray: lol thought you were joking about the other channel! lol
[05:51] <shigutso> how can I turn Off the effect of minimize/maximize in my Ubuntu 6.06 using Gnome?
[05:51] <sysdoc> IdleOne, /etc/init.d/gdm stop or kdm stop
[05:51] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  Yes Promise makes a good card..
[05:51] <IdleOne> sysdoc, thank you
[05:52] <tritium> IdleOne: you can call any initscript in /etc/init.d with "sudo invoke-rc.d <servicename> start | stop | restart"
[05:52] <kang> hi, stupid qquestion: is there a good/supported ubuntu i686 repository ? (i just see projects in forum)
[05:52] <Raito> WTF O_O, someone left the channel a lot of time
[05:53] <Hobbsee> !ops
[05:53] <Jack_Sparrow> jsimmons:  Yes Promise makes a good card.. downside is that it is a bit pricy.. $2 on pricewatch
[05:53] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[05:53] <shigutso> how can I turn Off the effect of minimize/maximize in my Ubuntu 6.06 using Gnome??
[05:54] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow still better than installing windows again obecause of m/b sawap...
[05:54] <GigaClon> we should just keep +r on
[05:54] <Seveas> GigaClon, +r sucks
[05:54] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow i checked asrock website - noi linux drivers :(
[05:54] <Seveas> but sometimes it's needed
[05:54] <Raito> tritium: so umm, what do I do to get the eth0 working, ifup doesn't work, is my ip address I chose bad?
[05:55] <DevOne-> Hi. I've just installed Ubuntu 6.06 in qemu, but it didn't prompt me for a user troughout the installation process (it did prompt me for a 'user password though'). Is this normal? What should i do?
[05:56] <IdleOne> hello ompaul ltns
[05:56] <shigutso> how can I turn Off the effect of minimize/maximize in my Ubuntu 6.06 using Gnome?
[05:56] <tritium> Raito: did you change your interfaces file yet?
[05:56] <Raito> tritium:yes
[05:56] <IdleOne> :)
[05:57] <tritium> Raito: please use ifup eth0 -v, and inspect the verbose output for the cause
[05:58] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow Promise SATA300 TX2 Plus\PCI SATA is $41 at newegg
[05:58] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow i guess that's my only recourse if I want to install Ubu
[05:58] <IdleOne> upgrade to Dapper has begun
[05:58] <oskude> Raito, i hope tritium can help you, i said you all that i know (need) for network to work :/ (but your symptoms are weird)
[05:59] <tritium> oskude: :)
[05:59] <jsimmons> jack_sparrow oh well, thanks for all your help...
[06:01] <Raito> tritium: ok, here is the output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17178
[06:01] <shigutso> how can I turn Off the effect of minimize/maximize in my Ubuntu 6.06 using Gnome??
[06:02] <spatieman> Question: How can i install Mplayer in dapper ? ,apt-get install mplayer (or mplayer-686) says that there is no mplayer package.
[06:03] <xavdeman> I have a question: what extra's does the DVD version of Ubuntu offer over the CD version? (I ordered the CD version so I can copy it and give it to friends)
[06:03] <nalioth> !mplayer > spatieman
[06:03] <stefg> !repos > spatieman
[06:03] <nalioth> spatieman: PM incooming
[06:03] <spatieman> saw it..
[06:03] <axisys> wow u can use redirect as a PM.. cool
[06:04] <axisys> !mplayer > axisys
[06:04] <spatieman> Sorry. The page you have requested does not exist. Try one of the following pages with similar names or see the full title index.
[06:04] <axisys> cool
[06:04] <stefg> !lamp > stefg
[06:04] <rockzman> i cant upgrade my ubuntu to 6.06 can anyone guide me to this upgrade?
[06:04] <tritium> Raito: are you sure your netmask is right?  Is it not 255.255.255.0?
[06:04] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[06:04] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[06:05] <spatieman> i did a upgrade via 5.10 to 6.06 ,true the upgrade manager :)
[06:05] <george_looney> Windoze Rulez
[06:05] <dr_willis> In Bizarro Land.
[06:05] <Raito> trituim: I am sure, when I am on the comp that has internet and go 'ifconfig' the Mask:255.255.0.0
[06:05] <oskude> george_looney, yeah, and it will rule you too ;)
[06:05] <rockzman> spatieman: my software updates says that my system is up to date
[06:06] <rockzman> dr_willis: my software updates says that my system is up to date
[06:06] <george_looney> I love windows
[06:06] <Tommy2k4>  would php give an error on mail() if the mail stuff wasnt set up properly
[06:06] <axisys> george_looney: hmm.. incomplete sentence..
[06:06] <dr_willis> and what leads you to think that its not?
[06:06] <Raito> here I'll pastebin my working one's ifconfig
[06:06] <tritium> george_looney: while you're entitled to that opinion, please don't troll here, okay?
[06:06] <spatieman> hmm, administrator and than upgrade manager, not the package manager
[06:06] <axisys> Windoze Rulez george_looney
[06:06] <rockzman> dr_willis: my version keeps on 5.10 and it says that is up to date...
[06:06] <sertmann> is there a config file somewhere you can change gtk themes in, since i installed a messed up theme so i can't login normally?
[06:06] <dr_willis> rockzman,  what 'version' ?
[06:06] <Jowi> Raito: what exactly are you trying to connect to and how is it set up (for example, modem->router->wireless ap <- network card)?
[06:07] <george_looney> LOL
[06:07] <rockzman> dr_willis: i wish to upgrade to 6.06 and my ubunt says im up to date
[06:07] <dr_willis> !upgrade > rockzman
[06:07] <dr_willis> did ya read/follow that url yet?
[06:07] <axisys> george_looney: u r not entitled to your opinion in windows world..
[06:07] <Raito> tritium: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17179, I am trying to connect with modem, router, and network card. No wireless
[06:07] <sikamedia> anyone knows any good options to encrypt harddisk in ubuntu 6.06
[06:07] <rockzman> dr_willis: yes sir.
[06:07] <ml--> is there a command similar to "top" but that shows network traffic?
[06:08] <axisys> george_looney: there is no such thing called freedom of choice in windows world
[06:08] <dr_willis> ml--,  ntop
[06:08] <BHSPitLappy> in my X error log, I see (WW) VESA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:7:0)
[06:08] <xavdeman> yes there is, between Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger, you see, two different vendors :)
[06:08] <axisys> xavdeman: hehe
[06:08] <george_looney> Now that I have made my grand enterance, could anyone here tell me if she/he has tried compiere on Ubuntu?
[06:08] <xavdeman> :P
[06:08] <ml--> dr_willis: -bash: ntop: command not found
[06:08] <CHodapp> george_looney, that's not so much "ruffling feathers".... it's more like setting up a booth in a big walkway, and people walk around you instead of ignoring you.
[06:09] <dr_willis> ml--,  perhaps that  means you should INSTALL it then.. :) Logical eh?
[06:09] <Raito> tritium: I tried to use a static ip, because everyone thinks it is an ip address conflict. When this computer is turned off, the other one has internet
[06:09] <george_looney> okay okay...I was having a li'l fun, c'mon
[06:09] <BHSPitLappy> tritium, was it you who referred me to that log?
[06:09] <xavdeman> I have a question... Does Ubuntu run Counter Strike?
[06:09] <tritium> BHSPitLappy: which log?  Xorg?
[06:09] <tritium> george_looney: please behave
[06:09] <BHSPitLappy> (EE) VESA(0): Cannot read V_BIOS
[06:10] <rockzman> dr_willis: "Breezy-Updates"
[06:10] <rockzman> this repository i dont have
[06:10] <BHSPitLappy> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[06:10] <ml--> dr_willis: ok, i thought it would be installed from scratch
[06:10] <BHSPitLappy> Fatal server error: no screens found
[06:10] <sertmann> rephrase: tried to install a gtk engine from source which wen't wrong, so i can't login in a normal session without my system hangs after a bunch of gtk errors, is there any way i can change the theme from command line? can't for the love of god find it - and even google fails me
[06:11] <BHSPitLappy> tritium, yeah
[06:11] <rockzman> can anyone help me to get this repository, "Breezy-Updates"
[06:11] <gnube> sertmann: Can you use another session, aside from the default which I assume you are using?
[06:11] <george_looney> sertmann: try running make uninstall in the build directory of the said Gtk engine
[06:11] <dr_willis> rockzman,  you trying to upgrade to dapper?
[06:12] <sertmann> in debian i'd probably be able to log-in as root, don't know about ubuntu though
[06:12] <stefg> sertmann: depends on if it's in ~/.themes or /usr/share/themes(?) ... I'd try deleting it and hoping Gnome's smart enough to fall back to a default
[06:12] <sertmann> george_looney, you lost me there im affraid
[06:12] <gnube> sertmann: You would be able to login as root if you set the root password.
[06:12] <rockzman> dr_willis: yes.
[06:12] <dr_willis> Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[06:12] <george_looney> sertmann: sudo bash
[06:12] <QMario> When will Linux support Flash 8?
[06:13] <dr_willis> I dont think you need the breezy updates.  you use the dapper repos
[06:13] <stefg> or sudo -s
[06:13] <juztin> is there a way in gnome to make the Applications/Places/System menu condense into one menu?
[06:13] <lommes> first thing i did after setting up ubuntu :) sudo chpasswd root
[06:13] <tritium> sudo -i
[06:13] <koke> ola conectarse con migo
[06:13] <oskude> QMario, you mean when does flash 8 support linux ?
[06:13] <stefg> !es
[06:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:13] <rockzman> dr_willis: yes but on this guide says i need to have breezy updates repository and i dont have it =\
[06:13] <sertmann> ok, ill try that bunch of stuff
[06:13] <QMario> Oskude, yes.
[06:13] <gnube> lommes: Yeah, me too.
[06:14] <ml--> dr_willis: thanks
[06:14] <oskude> QMario, then ask macromedia :/
[06:14] <gnube> I do not like the way Ubuntu thinks I do not need to use root.
[06:14] <snoops> QMario adobe aren't making a flash 8 for linux. They're working on flash 9 they say, but they said that about flash 8 as well.
[06:14] <lommes> onliest thing i miss with ubuntu is the "real" root user
[06:14] <dr_willis> rockzman,  which guide? I dont see that mentioned.. they give the apt.sources example in that dapper url.. just use it.
[06:14] <snoops> oskude adobe bought macromedia ;)
[06:14] <george_looney> gnube: but you have the choice to change that
[06:14] <oskude> snoops, roger
[06:14] <hangfire> Im trying to install ubuntu, and the wizard is taking for ever to load, Im on the second screen and the icon is still a rolling ball
[06:14] <sja> a "real" root user is easy enough to set up
[06:14] <tritium> gnube: you're free to enable the root account, if you don't mind lowering your security a bit
[06:14] <gnube> george_looney: You are right actually.
[06:14] <Ng> !root
[06:14] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> gnube, you dont need to, you just want to
[06:15] <gnube> tritium: Right, I should not blame Ubuntu for added security.
[06:15] <lommes> erm ... he just said that he already did
[06:15] <rockzman> dr_willis: k
[06:15] <igorzolnikov> how can i install java for firefox?
[06:15] <tritium> igorzolnikov: on dapper?
[06:15] <gnube> Kamping_Kaiser: Well, I am not so sure about that actually.
[06:15] <dr_willis> rockzman,  or just do a clean install of dapper. :P is better.
[06:15] <igorzolnikov> yes
[06:15] <tritium> igorzolnikov: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[06:16] <Raito> tritium: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17179, I am trying to connect with modem, router, and network card. No wireless
[06:16] <gnube> I know one can do everything with sudo but there are some things that are just damn iconvenient, like reading logs.
[06:16] <gnube> having to sudo all the time when you are used to using the root account strains the fingers and brain.
[06:16] <tritium> gnube: that's why I use "sudo -i"
[06:16] <igorzolnikov> E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-plugin
[06:16] <KenSentMe> !jave > igorzolnikov
[06:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about jave
[06:16] <sja> Ubuntu has a "real" root acount ... it's just that the password is unknown to you.  So, just do a " sudo passwd root" and set your own password
[06:16] <dr_willis> alias s = sudo :)
[06:16] <hangfire> anyone know why the install wizard for ubuntu would load so slow as to not be usuable?
[06:16] <KenSentMe> !java > igorzolnikov
[06:16] <prower> sudo su - would get you a root prompt as well
[06:17] <Daveyboy> is there a forum for ubuntu server packages?
[06:17] <dr_willis> sudo sudo sudo su - gksu :)
[06:17] <Ng> prower: that's equivalent to sudo -i, so is a bit redundant
[06:17] <Daveyboy> chanel i mean
[06:17] <igorzolnikov> i have java...
[06:17] <Raito> tritium: lunch, i'll be idling, so post if you figure it out
[06:17] <KenSentMe> Daveyboy: you can ask here about server installs too
[06:17] <prower> Ng: Ahh, I see
[06:17] <igorzolnikov> i need set plugin for firefox
[06:17] <tritium> Raito: I've checked it out.  I'm not sure what to suggest right now.  Let me think a bit
[06:17] <hangfire> does sudo give you all root privledges?
[06:17] <KenSentMe> !java
[06:17] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:17] <shachaf> dr_willis: I usually use "exec sudo su -"
[06:17] <tritium> igorzolnikov: I told you waht to isntall
[06:17] <tritium> install even
[06:18] <dr_willis> shachaf,  i tend touse 'sux' :)
[06:18] <igorzolnikov> E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-plugin
[06:18] <tritium> igorzolnikov: you might not have the right repos configured
[06:18] <BHSPitLappy> can somebody help?
[06:18] <KenSentMe> igorzolnikov: chekc the page ubotu sent you
[06:18] <tritium> igorzolnikov: you need multiverse
[06:18] <Ng> igorzolnikov: you need to enable the multiverse repository
[06:18] <Ramunas> hello, is there a way to get the new version of amarok?
[06:19] <KenSentMe> BHSPitLappy: with what?
[06:19] <george_looney> Ramunas: you could compile from source, if really want to
[06:19] <BHSPitLappy> "my friend's computer has an onboard graphics adapter (which I think doesn't work) and an Nvidia geforce4 card. when we boot the live dapper cd, X fails to start, because there are no suitable screens. any thoughts? is this a symptom of having two display adapters?"
[06:19] <BHSPitLappy> (EE) VESA(0): Cannot read V_BIOS
[06:19] <whacko> I was trying to install ubuntu dapper 6.06 2day, when it was doing the select and install pkg part it went black. but its not cd prob can anyone help me
[06:19] <BHSPitLappy> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[06:19] <BHSPitLappy> KenSentMe, that's the sum-up at this point
[06:19] <Ramunas> george_looney: well i guess i'll have to do this
[06:19] <dr_willis> BHSPitLappy,  disable the onboard thing in the bios - will be  the first advice you will get.
[06:20] <dr_willis> BHSPitLappy,  could also try some other live cd's see if they detect things right
[06:20] <BHSPitLappy> something tells me it already is disabled, but I'll check
[06:20] <_max_> could someone take a look at http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Matrox , and tell me if im missing out on any important information other than the commands in the grey areas.
[06:20] <_max_> i dont speak german =/
[06:20] <alecks> anybody know any good proxy finders for linux?
[06:20] <BHSPitLappy> dr_willis, and if those other ones do? save the xorg.conf?
[06:21] <dr_willis> BHSPitLappy,  yea.  see how it differs from the ubuntu one.
[06:21] <george_looney> alecks: proxy finders??
[06:21] <Ramunas> hey, there's a package for kubuntu, why no package for ubuntu?
[06:21] <Ramunas> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php
[06:21] <george_looney> Ramunas: use that one
[06:21] <dr_willis> you could do the text install to install the disrto then install the official nvidia drivers. which may fix everything. but the live cd has some limitations
[06:21] <alecks> george_loony: yeah, such as charon for windows
[06:21] <skavenge> use that one, amarok is a kde app therefore it'd be in kubuntu
[06:21] <inono> Why is Eclipse so doggone slow !!!
[06:22] <george_looney> alecks: you mean to say you want to find open proxies?
[06:22] <hangfire> anyone know why the install wizard would have troubles loading/running?
[06:22] <alecks> yesh
[06:22] <george_looney> inono: Evrything Java is Sloooooooooow
[06:22] <inono> ITS REALLY FUCKING SLOW
[06:22] <inono> it takes 10 seconds to save a file
[06:22] <sysdoc> lol
[06:22] <inono> ???
[06:22] <hangfire> no, I mean really slow, I cant even get the second screen of the install wizard to work
[06:23] <koke> ola porfavor contestame vale
[06:23] <george_looney> hangfire: do the CD Test
[06:23] <hangfire> george, what is the cd test?
[06:23] <cntb> koe hi #ubuntu-es is sleepy ?
[06:23] <matti> Coool... 6.06 works like a charm :)
[06:23] <sysdoc> atababy tritium
[06:24] <george_looney> hangfire: ummmm, when you boot with the CD there is an option to Test the CD
[06:24] <bertugolu> hey some
[06:24] <bertugolu> one
[06:24] <whacko> When I tried to install ubuntu dapper 6.06, after base installation , my system hangs while doing the select and install pkgs. I have 915Gav ll it be any driver probs, I am sure its not cd prob. Please clarify my dbt.
[06:24] <bertugolu> i need help
[06:24] <hangfire> ok thx, george, Ill try that
[06:24] <cntb> matti: where from?
[06:24] <bertugolu> i downloaded the live ch
[06:24] <bertugolu> and i want to install ubuntu ...how may i do that
[06:25] <george_looney> bertugolu: burn the downloaded ISO image on D
[06:25] <george_looney> C
[06:25] <matti> cntb: You mean? Where I live?
[06:25] <george_looney> CD
[06:25] <cntb> bertugolu: most straightforward
[06:25] <bertugolu> i did it already
[06:25] <bertugolu> and when i run it
[06:25] <george_looney> bertugolu: then boot your PC with the CD
[06:25] <bertugolu> o
[06:25] <bertugolu> ok
[06:25] <bertugolu> 10x
[06:25] <BHSPitLappy> dr_willis, I think the BIOS setting is OK
[06:25] <cntb> see straighforward
[06:25] <george_looney> np
[06:26] <cntb> yeah matti
[06:26] <matti> cntb: If so, then... I live in Poland.
[06:26] <matti> :)
[06:26] <BHSPitLappy> dr_willis, the primary Video Controller is set to Auto instead of Onboard, and the picture's coming from the AGP card
[06:26] <LordElph> booting a fresh dapper server install I get this 5 times "request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt-0000" and then it hangs. Aside from trying another distro, anyone got a clue how I might repair or fix the problem?
[06:26] <cntb> ah vshistko vporadku
[06:26] <xlinuxted> hi all
[06:27] <cntb> Iam from problematic ME
[06:27] <tritium> LordElph: at what point during install do you get that?
[06:27] <matti> cntb: LOL
[06:27] <LordElph> that's at boot, after the install has completed
[06:27] <george_looney> yp xlinuxted
[06:27] <tritium> LordElph: ah, install is complete?  Let's try blacklisting that module.
[06:28] <cntb> so UBUNTU speaks fluent Polish ?
[06:28] <xlinuxted> when I use bzflag (3D game) on 64bit install the bullets go through people.  On 32 bit it works fine.  Any ideas?
[06:28] <tritium> cntb: in another channel
[06:28] <matti> cntb: Almost.
[06:28] <cntb> tritium socializing
[06:28] <george_looney> xlinuxted: which CPU are you on?
[06:28] <cntb> is good for UBUNTU
[06:28] <LordElph> tritium: how would I go about blacklisting it? what does binfmt actually do anyway?
[06:28] <ephesius> is there a specific forum for laptop related questions?
[06:29] <Ng> !pl
[06:29] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:29] <cntb> ok now serious
[06:29] <matti> cntb: But I stick with english localization all the time.
[06:29] <tritium> LordElph: hold on
[06:29] <xlinuxted> george_looney:  just a sec...
[06:29] <george_looney> ephesius: not really, I think
[06:29] <cntb> is a pinnacle TV card good for UBUNTU /or any linux 4 that matter ?
[06:29] <skavenge> www.linuxtv.org
[06:30] <ephesius> george_looney: ok thanks
[06:30] <cntb> 10x skavenge very much
[06:30] <Bassetts> is there no easy way to make a flash screencast?
[06:30] <xlinuxted> george_looney, I have a AMD Athlon 3000+
[06:30] <skavenge> np that site's helped me out tons
[06:30] <ephesius> Why do usb ports on my thinkpad t40 not work in ubuntu
[06:30] <george_looney> cntb: I think so
[06:31] <cntb> george_looney:  yu know pinnacle TV is ok 4 linux?
[06:31] <Ramunas> how can i install amarok-xine package without installing package amarok?
[06:31] <george_looney> ephesius: what device are you trying to connect to them
[06:31] <BHSPitLappy> hmm
[06:32] <BHSPitLappy> so, the kororaa livecd works, X-wise
[06:32] <BHSPitLappy> but ubuntu doesn't
[06:32] <george_looney> cntb: My friend had one of their cards, it worked A-OK with the "bttv" driver
[06:32] <Al2O3> Isn't [H5N1]  a type of avian influenza?
[06:32] <cntb> bttv  = Brooktree TV
[06:32] <xlinuxted> george_looney, why did you wanna know about my cpu?  Would it affect bzlfag?
[06:32] <lommes> in english its called birdflu
[06:33] <george_looney> BHSPitLappy: do a text only install and configure the X Window system later
[06:33] <cntb> my experience only in WINDOWS
[06:33] <george_looney> xlinuxted: use the 32-bit version if it works fine :)
[06:33] <YogSothoth> Hi
[06:33] <YogSothoth> I use GNOME. Ryhthmbox has just crashed. I try to kill it but I can't. Any help?
[06:33] <oskude> cntb, maybe this list can help http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Cardlist.BTTV
[06:33] <xlinuxted> can i specifically use the 32bit version of bzflag on 64bit install?  if so, how?
[06:33] <xlinuxted> (that was for george)
[06:34] <george_looney> cntb: bttv was the first driver AFAIK for TV cards on Linux
[06:34] <dseomn> hi, I'm using edgy and when I try to boot a 2.6.17 kernel (-3 or -4) it can't find my root partition (hda1)
[06:34] <george_looney> xlinuxted: you have me cornedred now, dude
[06:34] <dseomn> my ide controller is 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller (rev 02)
[06:34] <xlinuxted> he he he
[06:34] <george_looney> xlinuxted: I thought you said it worked for you
[06:34] <ephesius> george_looney: any device
[06:35] <Ares> dseomn: You using Grub to boot?
[06:35] <tritium> dseomn: #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions
[06:35] <Raito> tritium: ok, I'm back, I'll still be idling
[06:35] <dseomn> Ares: yeah
[06:35] <dseomn> tritium: thanks
[06:35] <xlinuxted> george_looney, I had a 32install.  when I changed to 64 that's where the problem comes up
[06:35] <tritium> Raito: you haven't tried 192.168.x.x, have you?
[06:35] <george_looney> ephesius: I'm command line junkie, so if you can do "dmesg" in a root console after you attach the device
[06:35] <jpgvietnam> how to intall jdk5.0 on Unbuntu Linux
[06:35] <BHSPitLappy> george_looney, we -have- a text-only install
[06:35] <jpgvietnam> ?
[06:36] <Ares> Oh, does anyone know what version of Grub Ubuntu ships with these days?
[06:36] <Raito> tritium: no, I haven't, and what should the x's be?
[06:36] <george_looney> BHSPitLappy: ooops, must have been the beer
[06:36] <ephesius> george_looney: i do that but how do i put it in pastebin?
[06:36] <loco> hola
[06:36] <tritium> LordElph: does booting into recovery mode (single-user) work?
[06:36] <tritium> !es
[06:36] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:36] <xlinuxted> gotta go
[06:36] <loco> habla en espaol
[06:36] <BHSPitLappy> george_looney, I didn't say it, but we do have a text-only install. the alternate install cd created it
[06:36] <george_looney> BHSPitLappy: I meant the beer joke on me :)
[06:37] <BHSPitLappy> and there's no network access, and X is desired
[06:37] <tritium> Ares: 0.97-1
[06:37] <BHSPitLappy> george_looney, and I just told you I didn't say it to begin with
[06:37] <Ares> tritrum: Thanks.
[06:37] <BHSPitLappy> so don't worry about it
[06:37] <george_looney> BHSPitLappy: ok So I'm still in my senses :)
[06:37] <tritium> Ares: 0.97, actually.  The -1 is related to the ubuntu build
[06:38] <BHSPitLappy> but what can we do from here?
[06:38] <george_looney> BHSPitLappy: get into a root session with "sudo -i"
[06:38] <nguyep> does any1 know if ubuntu supports buslink's usb-ide bridge
[06:38] <BHSPitLappy> you want me to boot to the text-only installation?
[06:38] <george_looney> BHSPitLappy: then "apt-get install x-window-system-core"
[06:38] <Ramunas> anybody here already uses amarok 1.4.1 ?
[06:38] <BHSPitLappy> I said there's no network access though
[06:39] <BHSPitLappy> unless it can use the Ubuntu CD as a source
[06:39] <george_looney> BHSPitLappy: Have already installed?
[06:39] <ephesius> george_looney: wut should i do after I dmesg
[06:39] <valehru> anyone know a way I can record skype calls on ubuntu?
[06:39] <george_looney> BHSPitLappy: Have you already installed ?
[06:40] <george_looney> ephesius: do you know how to use pastebin?
[06:40] <ephesius> george_looney: nope
[06:40] <BHSPitLappy> george_looney, we have a text-only install, but I think it's crippled.
[06:40] <energywhiz123> happy new user here.. just wanted to say thanks
[06:40] <george_looney> energywhiz123: you are welcome
[06:40] <tritium> BHSPitLappy: you did a server install?
[06:40] <BHSPitLappy> and it isn't SUPPOSED to be text-only
[06:41] <BHSPitLappy> tritium, no. just a text-mode installation
[06:41] <george_looney> BHSPitLappy: crippled!? like how?
[06:41] <george_looney> ephesius: go to pastebin.com
[06:41] <BHSPitLappy> like, it should be NORMAL, but instead it doesn't have a GUI
[06:41] <tritium> BHSPitLappy: but which installer?
[06:42] <BHSPitLappy> tritium, the first choice on the alternate cd install menu.
[06:42] <tritium> george_looney: not sure if he was thanking you.  heh
[06:42] <BHSPitLappy> Install in Text-Mode
[06:42] <george_looney> BHSPitLappy: oh ok, so I guess you can at least login in the text mode
[06:42] <shigutso> how can I turn Off the effect of minimize/maximize in my Ubuntu 6.06 using Gnome??
[06:42] <tritium> BHSPitLappy: alternate?  okay...
[06:42] <BHSPitLappy> not OEM, not server
[06:42] <tritium> shigutso: I don't believe that you can.  Why?
[06:42] <george_looney> tritium: I was representing the community on that occasion :)
[06:43] <BHSPitLappy> ok, george_looney
[06:43] <shigutso> tritium, it is because I dont like this effect... :(
[06:43] <BHSPitLappy> I'm sudo -i in the installed Ubuntu
[06:43] <BHSPitLappy> at a # prompt.
[06:43] <shigutso> tritium, just like windows, I want to make it "faster"
[06:43] <TonyEberly> Howdy all - I am currently having a bit of trouble accessing the Security updates repositories --- I have more info on my situation posted here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1213424  Help would be greatly appreciated :)
[06:43] <george_looney> BHSPitLappy: now give this "apt-get install x-window-system-core"
[06:43] <george_looney> BHSPitLappy: tell me what it says?
[06:44] <tritium> shigutso: you don't want to be able to min or max windows at all?
[06:44] <george_looney> shigutso: use XFCE
[06:44] <george_looney> shigutso: But, I'm sure the option to disable those effects are available somewhere, Google maybe!?
[06:44] <shigutso> tritium, no no, I only don't want to have that effect when maximizing/minimizing... i don't like it and it is kinda "laggy" for me
[06:45] <shigutso> george_looney, I've already searched in google :/
[06:45] <whacko> I have a prob. When I tried to install ubuntu dapper 6.06, after base installation , my system hangs while doing the select and install pkgs. I have 915Gav ll it be any driver probs, I am sure its not cd prob. please help me. I even ran it in console mode ctrl+alt+f4 , I cud see its unpacks and config all pkgs. and when it was setting up all the pkgs, it hangs the same way
[06:46] <BHSPitLappy> george_looney, it seems to be working, using the cd
[06:46] <BHSPitLappy> I'll be back in a little while, thanks for helping so far
[06:46] <george_looney> BHSPitLappy: you are welcome
[06:47] <ephesius> george_looney: it wont let me submin
[06:47] <ephesius> george_looney: can i open up a dialog window with you and paste it in there
[06:47] <george_looney> ephesius: ok
[06:48] <TonyEberly> Howdy all - I am currently having a bit of trouble accessing the Security updates repositories --- I have more info on my situation posted here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1213424  Help would be greatly appreciated :)
[06:48] <soundray> whacko: how long have you left it in this hanging state?
[06:48] <whacko> soundray: abt 15-20 mins
[06:48] <soundray> whacko: is it unpacking something at that point?
[06:49] <Leira> i've tried prelink, i found my / and /usr used larger space, then i runned prelink -all -undo, to expect retrive back the lost space
[06:49] <whacko> soundray: no its not unpacking
[06:49] <Leira> but i found when i undoed prelink, the used space even get lager~
[06:49] <soundray> whacko: what's the last screen message?
[06:50] <Leira> and i tried to redo the prelink, the used space is still increasing, it is strange
[06:50] <whacko> soundray: I cud see setting up xorg ... then quickly it goes blank
[06:50] <Leira> it seems prelink just eating space, and never give back
[06:51] <Barkley> anyone using vmware?  i'm tossing around windows server host, linux guest or vice-versa.  are there known performance differences between the two approaches?
[06:51] <ephesius> Barkley: go with the linux host
[06:51] <soundray> whacko: does it respond to any keys? Try Alt-F8 and Alt-F1, as well as those two with Ctrl held down as well.
[06:51] <Barkley> ephesius --- what's the rationale?
[06:52] <chariscomp> I have installed ubuntu dapper drake many times on my system. I am unable to get it to boot. When it boots, it tells me that the /dev/hda1 cannot be mounted as root, becase the drive is busy or unavailable. I have figured out it is because it thinks that /dev/hda1 is part of a software RAID device. I did not choose to set this up when I installed it. How can I remove any references to the...
[06:52] <chariscomp> .../dev/md0 device that I did not create? (I had previously tried to install using RAID, but had deleted all partitions before this installation) Why am I still seeing references to /dev/md0 when I didn't ask it to install? Also, is there a text editor that can be used from the busybox environment?
[06:52] <Barkley> does windows slow down much as a guest?
[06:52] <Barkley> can you do 3d as a guest?
[06:52] <whacko> soundray: it responded to ctrl+alt+del but not to ctrl +alt+F*
[06:53] <chariscomp> Any suggestions? I am getting really desperate! :(
[06:53] <Ares> Charis: Busy box?
[06:53] <ephesius> Barkley: it seems to work well, get the server and I think you can run it without a gui remotely....or try xen on a ubuntu server install, there is a really good guide on how-to forge for it
[06:54] <Ares> !info busybox
[06:54] <ubotu> busybox: Tiny utilities for small and embedded systems. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:1.01-4ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 281 kB, installed size 508 kB
[06:54] <chariscomp> Ares, what do you mean by your question?
[06:54] <george_looney> ephesius: but, I don't think Xen supports windows
[06:54] <Ares> Charis: You may want to try Nano I guess?
[06:54] <soundray> whacko: did you install from a Desktop CD?
[06:54] <chariscomp> where is nano stored? Is it in /boot?
[06:54] <whacko> soundray: s :)
[06:55] <ephesius> george_looney: yea you're right, sorry Barkley....vmware should still work well
[06:55] <Barkley> ephesius: yeah might try that
[06:55] <ephesius> Barkley: I dont know how well windows is supported in xen
[06:55] <Barkley> you are saying grab the ubunutu server install or the vmware server (gsx or whatever)
[06:55] <Ares> Nah, nano is just an editor through terminal.
[06:56] <Ares> Charis: What would you care to edit?
[06:56] <soundray> whacko: did you install from a Desktop or Alternate CD?
[06:56] <george_looney> ephesius: Xen requires patching the guest OS kernel
[06:56] <ephesius> Barkley: ubuntu then install vmware server, i think vmwares costs money
[06:56] <whacko> soundray: desktop cd
[06:56] <george_looney> ephesius: obviously, Windows is not an option
[06:57] <chariscomp> Ares: I am trying to edit my /etc/fstab but can't seem to find anything to do it with.
[06:57] <Ares> Oh
[06:57] <ephesius> george_looney: i never really thought about running windows in it, i guess i should research more before i start saying stuff haha
[06:57] <Ares> Open up terminal?
[06:57] <chariscomp> Ares: The problem is that I can't get my system to boot normally at all.
[06:57] <soundray> whacko: I suggest you try booting with a kernel option. In the grub menu, you can hit 'e' to edit the first entry. Append 'vga=771' to the kernel line, then boot.
[06:58] <Ares> Charis: Got Terminal?
[06:58] <chariscomp> Ares: It never has booted properly.
[06:58] <george_looney> ephesius: actually, the Microsoft Research did provide the original Xen developers with a copy of Windows XP
[06:58] <KnowledgEngi> http://rafb.net/paste/results/PgekQI65.html
[06:58] <george_looney> ephesius: which was modified so as to be tested with Xen
[06:58] <mrDaniel> i have ubuntu, than i installed kubuntu, and than i removed kubuntu again. But when i restart my computer, than still the blue kubuntu logo appear at startup
[06:58] <KnowledgEngi> i has install the program "gaphor" using synaptic
[06:58] <KnowledgEngi> this is the error that come when i run gaphor
[06:58] <KnowledgEngi> http://rafb.net/paste/results/PgekQI65.html
[06:59] <valehru> hey guys, I want to be able to record a conversation in skype...what is the best application to help me with this?
[06:59] <ephesius> george_looney: thats suprising
[06:59] <KnowledgEngi> someone have idea?
[06:59] <mrDaniel> where i can change my 'startup-logo' to the normal brown/orange ubuntu logo?
[06:59] <whacko> soundray: I tried installing in anothr sys with no OS fresh hdd
[06:59] <bastard79> hi all, i need share motion from my webcam on www, which program can do this ?
[06:59] <sponix> aye, how do I get the kubuntu (kde) taskbar at the bottom of the screen when the panel is at the top (I want the two seperated) ?
[07:00] <mrDaniel> kubuntu-remove: i have removed all packages manually
[07:00] <mrDaniel> do anyone know where the startup-logo can be changed?
[07:00] <mrDaniel> i want my blue ubuntu logo back :)
[07:00] <mrDaniel> i mean orange :)
[07:00] <soundray> whacko: and?
[07:01] <Ares> Charis: Type in "nano /etc/fstab" into Terminal and that should be an editor ....
[07:01] <whacko> soundray: so no grub how to edit that
[07:01] <soundray> whacko: what?
[07:02] <dudleh> someone got an offsite link to the ubuntu dapper upgrade guide? wiki won't load for me
[07:02] <aergern> mrDaniel: /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/
[07:02] <whacko> soundray: that's a new sys and im going to install ths ubuntu now, tell me how to do that
[07:02] <aergern> That's where you can find the splash screens for Gnome.
[07:03] <soundray> dudleh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades works fine here
[07:03] <zi1> hi all
[07:03] <george_looney> yo zi1
[07:03] <Ares> Charis: Did you try that line in Terminal :\
[07:04] <dudleh> soundray, cheers, seems i've got some dns problems though, they mirrored anywhere?
[07:04] <zi1> is there a gnome gui for configuring samba i use vi but a friend needs to be able to point and click
[07:05] <soundray> dudleh: if it's DNS, try https://82.211.81.234/community/DapperUpgrades
[07:05] <zi1> or is there a kcontrol equiv for gnmone
[07:05] <zi1> gnome sorry
[07:05] <george_looney> zi1: how about SWAT
[07:06] <ephesius> george_looney: i posted everything to a blog i made real quick, http://ephesius.blogspot.com/ if you dont mind could you check it out
[07:06] <xored> Ihr seid Frinks :) ! SCHLAND!
[07:06] <dudleh> still nothing, think theres some malware or something on here, thanks anyway.
[07:06] <cntb> guys  http://www.nasa.gov/ram/35037main_portal.ram
[07:06] <zi1> what is SWAT
[07:06] <soundray> whacko: ask someone who will tolerate your poor manners.
[07:06] <george_looney> ephesius: ok sure
[07:06] <Ares> soundray: What did Whacko do?
[07:06] <cntb> how to ainstall & enable Realplayer in UBUBNTU ASAP ?
[07:06] <george_looney> !de
[07:06] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:06] <cntb>  http://www.nasa.gov/ram/35037main_portal.ram
[07:07] <mrDaniel> thank you for your help @aergern ((usr/share/pixmaps/splash/) but i dont mean this picutres. i mean the logo at the very beginning: the picture appears promptly after the bootloader is 'gone'
[07:07] <cntb> !realplayer
[07:07] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:07] <george_looney> zi1: SWAT is a web based admin tool for Samba
[07:07] <soundray> Ares: nothing in particular, we just don't get along.
[07:07] <Ares> soundray: Understood =)
[07:08] <zi1> no i need a program
[07:08] <zi1> needs to be KISS
[07:08] <george_looney> zi1: thought so
[07:08] <george_looney> zi1: I don't know of any that is really KISS
[07:09] <zi1> kcontrol
[07:09] <george_looney> ephesius: did you connect a PSP?
[07:09] <ephesius> yea
[07:10] <ephesius> george_looney: but the same thing happens wiht a thumbdrive and even the mouse craps out after a little
[07:10] <wiking> where i can find my ubuntu version?
[07:11] <george_looney> I suspect your USB is going bad or most probably a hardware issue
[07:11] <aergern> mrDaniel: You can do that by going to the admin menu and choosing login window..
[07:11] <george_looney> ephesius: it could of course be a Linux issue as well
[07:11] <george_looney> ephesius: can't confirm
[07:12] <saik0> zi1, System -> Administration -> Shared Folders  KISS enough?
[07:12] <bthornton> Got a quick kernel question: There was a time when certain SCSI features needed to be enabled in order to write to CD/DVD-R/RW discs--even if the drive was IDE.  Is this still the case in 2.6.x kernels?
[07:12] <george_looney> bthornton: nope
[07:12] <saik0> bthornton, no
[07:13] <bthornton> sweet
[07:13] <bthornton> thanks
[07:13] <mrDaniel> @aergern: at admin->login_window only the gdm can be configured, but i mean the logo at the VERY beginning after grub-bootloader. Its a big ubuntu-logo at the top and at the bottom a text appears.
[07:13] <george_looney> bthornton: use dev=/dev/hdc or whatever
[07:13] <ephesius> george_looney: its a ubuntu issue, dsl work, debian, and knoppix all recognize it
[07:13] <mrDaniel> where i can find this picture
[07:13] <george_looney> ephesius: well then it is
[07:13] <mrDaniel> i want to change my logo from kubuntu-blue to ubuntu-ornge
[07:13] <bthornton> so I can pretty much safely turn off everything in the SCSI device support section of the kernel config if I know I don't have any SCSI devices?  (which I know I don't)
[07:13] <george_looney> ephesius: if others work then its an issue
[07:14] <ephesius> george_looney: but hwo do i solve this issue
[07:14] <wiking> in admin menu?
[07:14] <george_looney> ephesius: do you get the same error with default linux-image-386 kernel?
[07:15] <ephesius> not sure...installed the 386 right off the bat
[07:15] <ephesius> should i just apt-get it?
[07:16] <michel> higuys
[07:16] <george_looney> ephesius: I have to go now, sorry, its late out here, I will try to contact you on your blog
[07:16] <george_looney> ephesius: I hope it is ok with you
[07:16] <Ro1> how do i get wmv files to play in totem?
[07:16] <cntb> shuttle launch in less than hour
[07:16] <Ro1> woo
[07:16] <johlin> could someone help me getting code::blocks working with SDL?
[07:17] <michel> need a hand. here's the problem.  I need toconfigure GDM so it accepts xdmcp connections from distant host (internet). can anyone assist?
[07:17] <saik0> !tell Ro1 about RestrictedFormats
[07:17] <ephesius> george_looney: thats cool, thatnks a lot...will it work through apt get?
[07:18] <saik0> !RestrictedFormats
[07:18] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:18] <cjnodell> Hello
[07:19] <ROBOd> hello
[07:19] <ROBOd> i have added several repositories to my sources.list
[07:19] <cntb> awesome
[07:19] <cjnodell> Is there a simple way to install DRI so i can enable my ATI Rages 3d?
[07:19] <ROBOd> and i'd like to see in synaptics (or any tool) which of the repositories does provide the specific package I want
[07:20] <mrDaniel> do anyone know how to change the startup-logo after grub-bootloader?
[07:20] <soundray> cntb: football starts in 100 minutes. Both subjects are best discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:20] <jrib> ROBOd: apt-cache policy package_name
[07:20] <cntb> cntb:  http://www.nasa.gov/ram/35037main_portal.ram
[07:20] <ROBOd> in synaptic and aptitude there's "versions" ... but that shows just "dapper" "dapper", etc
[07:20] <cntb> run to see it
[07:20] <skavenge> what package?
[07:20] <soundray> mrDaniel: I think you need usplash
[07:21] <soundray> !info usplash
[07:21] <ubotu> usplash: Userspace bootsplash utility. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.2-4 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 196 kB
[07:21] <ROBOd> thanks jrib
[07:21] <mrDaniel> @soundray: the problem is, i want to change my blue kubuntu logo to the orange ubuntu logo
[07:22] <Osaka> so im having some troubles installing ubuntu is this the right place to get some help?
[07:22] <saik0> !tell mrDaniel about grub
[07:22] <Jack_Sparrow> mrDaniel:  is that the Start equivalent logo you are trying to change
[07:22] <juztin> is there a way in gnome to change the way you resize windows?  i want it to be ALT-RIGHT-CLICK instead of ALT-MIDDLE-CLICK....
[07:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Osaka:  yes
[07:23] <DYm00n>  
[07:23] <jolmash> hello all, could somebody help me on configuring my ubuntu as a vpn server?
[07:23] <ROBOd> how to make a certain package version "ignored"?
[07:23] <jcarlos> hi
[07:23] <ROBOd> i want to ... skip it somehow
[07:23] <Barkley> am i correct in assuming that even if you have an amd64 chip, you are still better off installing the x86 version to avoid all the driver and 32-bit problems?
[07:23] <Osaka> ok so i have the ubuntu iso mounted with daemon tools but when i try to get it to run it just loads the splash loader and then.. silence
[07:24] <mrDaniel> i want to change the start-logo, because
[07:24] <mrDaniel> i have ubunutu, than i installed and removed kubuntu-desktop, but the blue kubuntu start-logo is going on my nerves
[07:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Osaka:  why not just boot the cd live
[07:24] <codecaine> anybody know how I can get movies to play with mplayer by double clicking with my mouse I choose mplayer but it never loads
[07:24] <saik0> Barkley, unless you feel like running certain things in a 32 bit chroot (headache) then yes thats about right
[07:24] <mrDaniel> i want my old orange ubuntu logo back
[07:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[07:25] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:25] <mrDaniel> and not the blue kubuntu logo at the startup
[07:25] <codecaine> but if I do mplayer movie in terminal it does :/
[07:25] <soundray> mrDaniel: I think you need to do 'cd /etc/alternatives ; sudo ln -sf /usr/lib/usplash-default.so usplash-artwork.so'
[07:25] <Barkley> saik0 thanks, nope i don't have time to screw with that
[07:25] <Osaka> how would one boot the cd live
[07:26] <Jowi> mrDaniel: it's not enough to remove kubuntu-artwork-usplash?
[07:26] <saik0> Barkley, btw. the only issues arise are from non-free software thats only availiable in a 32 bit incarnation. ex: Flash and win32 codecs
[07:27] <Jack_Sparrow> osaka set bios to boot cd first then power up
[07:27] <mrDaniel> @jowi: i have removed kubuntu-artwork-usplash, but this didn't work
[07:27] <mrDaniel> @soundray: i will try this
[07:27] <Barkley> ah
[07:27] <Barkley> what's about nvidia display drivers :D
[07:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !nv
[07:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about nv
[07:27] <Osaka> okie now i have to get off my bum and find a blank cd >.<
[07:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia
[07:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:27] <saik0> Barkley, pff beats me ;)
[07:28] <Barkley> saik0 so as a server...i should run it as 64?
[07:28] <Jack_Sparrow> osaka.. it is the best way to get started
[07:28] <Barkley> i don't need flash and win32 codecs
[07:29] <Osaka> right-o
[07:29] <Jowi> mrDaniel: how about "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so"?
[07:29] <ephesius> could someone help me get usb ports working on my thinkpad t40?
[07:29] <nstrich> hi ihave a problem, i fucked up xfce!
[07:29] <saik0> Barkley, I cant see any reason why you would'nt want to run x86_64 on it
[07:29] <nstrich> the panels come up, but the desktop area is regular gnome :\
[07:29] <saik0> Barkley, but I'm known for failing to see the obvious ;)
[07:29] <Jowi> mrDaniel: (should give you a list of images you can select to be the usplash image)
[07:29] <Jack_Sparrow> OSaka, it will boot all the way into Ubuntu and evaluate hardware.  Icon on the screen for hard drive installation
[07:29] <Barkley> does stuff like lighttpd, apache, mysql all run fine on amd64?
[07:30] <screnity> Hello :), My question is as follows, I was advised to use FreeNX as a remote desktop application as opposed to RealVNC, I have successfully installed the server and client but wonder how to set settings for the server, and if the password is the password of my user account? Do i also have to open SSH 22 on this machine - Thanks
[07:30] <mrDaniel> mom...
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> ephesius: They don't?  I have a T43 and everything was fine.  You might find something on the ThinkWiki though - great site dedicated to Linux on Thinkpads.
[07:30] <saik0> screnity, yes and yes
[07:31] <codecaine> how open a video with the mouse using terminal commands?
[07:31] <ephesius> tonyarusso: they work on like debian and they worked on breezy but not dapper....
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> ephesius: Very strange...
[07:31] <mrDaniel> at /etc/alternatives are only three files: usplash, usplash_down und usplash_write
[07:31] <screnity> saikio, So i need to open SSH 22 on my router, then people can connect only using my account i was logged in as? or as root?
[07:32] <ROBOd> how to make a certain package version "ignored"?
[07:32] <screnity> saik0* or saiko heh
[07:32] <left> hi
[07:32] <mrDaniel> at /usr/lib/usplash/ i can find two files: usplash-artwork.so and usplash-default.so
[07:32] <kyozabe> How do you paste things into irssi through SSH?
[07:33] <ephesius> tonyyarusso: i couldnt find anything on thinkwiki
[07:33] <kyozabe> ctrl v doesn't work
[07:33] <saik0> screnity, thats right. You could setup some iptables firewall rules to only allow a certain IP/subnet access to port 22, or perhaps your router has some firewall capabilities
[07:33] <Gog123> does gtk2.10 fix the bugs with ubuntu?
[07:33] <eikke> hija
[07:34] <screnity> sounds good thank you, so I can allow a certain subnet and the password is the root account? or user i set it up with? although hmm it had to be granted admin rights im sure
[07:34] <Gog123> can i update to gtk2.10 ?
[07:34] <left> has someone already seen a thing like this? : http://img382.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1vn.png :O
[07:34] <left> the unallocated is a ntfs windows partition
[07:34] <eikke> I got a stupid issue. I installed ubuntu (dapper) on my laptop before, worked fine, now I had to reinstall, used lvm this time, and installation hangs on "configuring wvdial". Anything I can change about that?
[07:34] <mrDaniel> just for understanding: i dont mean a splash-screen like this http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=33082
[07:34] <cmatheson> i've compiled my own kernel so that i can use the badram patch, but i don't have the nvidia kernel module now... which package contains the source for that?
[07:34] <Jowi> mrDaniel: how about "sudo apt-get remove --purge usplash" and then "sudo apt-get install usplash"?
[07:34] <mrDaniel> i mean the logo at the very beginning after grub
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> ephesius: Filed a bug yet?
[07:35] <ephesius> no...wear can i do that
[07:35] <ephesius> what information should i include
[07:35] <saik0> screnity, you can login to your machine with any user account (with a default Nx config). You can disable root logins to ssh as well. But I'm not sure if thats the default in ubuntu these days.
[07:35] <mrDaniel> @jowi: i will try this
[07:35] <WooD> Hi ! Any of you as found an easy way to sync a Pocket PC Windows Mobile 5.0 to Evolution with Ubuntu ?
[07:36] <mrDaniel> maybe man-pages exists for usplash
[07:36] <screnity> ok thanks saiko, lastly how do you rate freeNX ?
[07:36] <KyoLptp`> how do you paste into irssi through screen using SSH?
[07:36] <mrDaniel> restart....
[07:36] <saik0> screnity, You can also do some additional security with pub/private key configs. Just read the docs. I love Nx I use it every day at work ;)
[07:36] <sysdoc> KyoLptp`, shift+insert
[07:37] <jolmash> hello all, could somebody help me on configuring my ubuntu as a vpn server?
[07:37] <screnity> :)
[07:37] <KyoLptp`> thanks sysdoc
[07:37] <cmatheson> where does one get the source for the nvidia kernel module?
[07:38] <screnity> saik0 sorry but i have another question :), How would I make NXViewer and really any application appear in the applications menu as every .deb i install does not, and only those installed via add/remove do although even some of those do not
[07:38] <screnity> thanks again :)
[07:38] <Ares> How do you install XGL and compiz [etc]  through apt-get?
[07:38] <left> :|
[07:38] <left> apt-get install ?
[07:39] <SAM_theman> /home/samuelp/.setup12170: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:39] <SAM_theman> ?
[07:39] <saik0> screnity, do killall gnome-panel and see if they appear
[07:40] <sysdoc> cmatheson, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[07:41] <screnity> thanks saik0 i cant figure out why that would be disabled by default though
[07:41] <mrDaniel> @jowi: removing and installting usplash again work well, thank you very much for your quick and uncomplicated help .)
[07:41] <martii> hi
[07:41] <martii> I have problem with totem
[07:41] <Ramunas> http://www.nasa.gov/55644main_NASATV_Windows.asx <-- Discovery launch from NASA, LIVE
[07:41] <Jowi> no probs mrDaniel. there must be another way though that does not require a complete removal. :)
[07:41] <martii> totem --screen=1 --fulscreen media_file dies
[07:42] <martii> (Details: serial 58 error_code 8 request_code 141 minor_code 19)
[07:43] <cmatheson> sysdoc: hmm, i don't want to use the stuff from nvidia though, is there no package that just contains the source so that it can be built alone (breezy used to have this package, i'm fairly sure)
[07:43] <WooD> Any as success with Pocket PC with ubuntu ?
[07:44] <saik0> !offtopic Ramunas
[07:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about offtopic Ramunas
[07:44] <saik0> !tell Ramunas about offtopic
[07:45] <Ares> How would I test my graphics card to know if its working properly?
[07:45] <satafterh> hay all, is there  a linux program that would allow me to record from my camcorder that would be connected to my tvtuner card right to dvd
[07:45] <blocky> can somebody gimmie a hand with something
[07:45] <sysdoc> cmatheson, If you want it to actually work, I'd suggest method 2 on that page....
[07:45] <blocky> when I got up this morning, my box was totally unresponsive and required hard reboot
[07:46] <blocky> syslog shows cron.daily running about 3 hours ago, and nothing between then and the reboot i just did
[07:46] <cmatheson> sysdoc: hmm, ok thanks
[07:46] <sysdoc> cmatheson, search the repos for nvidia.
[07:46] <blocky> im running 2.6.17-ck1
[07:48] <sysdoc> cmatheson, I didn't even look for the source in the repos, and have always use the driver from nvidia. So I really wouldn't know. But I do know that it just works if ya follow those instructions on that page...:)
[07:48] <cmatheson> sysdoc: oh, for some reason i was thinking that nvidia-kernel-source didn't have an installation candidate, but it's working now
[07:48] <cmatheson> sysdoc: thanks
[07:48] <sysdoc> coO
[07:48] <cmatheson> sysdoc: ok, cool
[07:49] <bjorkBSD> whoa! i'm back in \:D/
[07:49] <bjorkBSD> the ban is lifted. but i no longer have an interest in ubuntu :-?
[07:50] <Ares> bjork: You use BSD?
[07:50] <d2812> Does anyone know how I can view network shares in thunar?
[07:50] <peter84> Hi. How do i cd to a folder with spaces?
[07:50] <bjorkBSD> yeah.
[07:50] <bjorkBSD> it kicks ARSE.
[07:50] <bjorkBSD> peter, use \ ;)
[07:50] <Aven> hey
[07:50] <bbrazil> peter84: '\ '
[07:50] <tibbe> what's a recommended split of a 40gb laptop hard drive if I want a separate /home?
[07:50] <peter84> ahhh okay thanks
[07:50] <Jowi> peter84: or use quotes: "/my dir"
[07:50] <Aven> everytime I upload a song in a media player, it always says "this file is not an audio stream"
[07:51] <Aven> however it is 100% audio stream and I can play it in XMS
[07:51] <Aven> XMMS, rather
[07:51] <Aven> not just one song, but lots
[07:51] <bjorkBSD> oh well.
[07:51] <Ares> tibbe: I would say 10/30 or 20/20 :O [I put to much stuff in Home don't I? =)
[07:51] <Aven> what is the problem for that?
[07:51] <tibbe> Ares: I usually put all my media (movies etc) in /home, don't want to loose them during reinstall
[07:52] <rtux> #ubuntu
[07:52] <Aven> what is the problem for that?
[07:52] <tibbe> and why does the default layout put swap in hda5 instead of hda2 right after / which is at hda1?
[07:52] <saik0> tibbe, For a desktop I normally do 100Mb /boot, 5GB /, and use the rest for /home
[07:52] <Aven> what is the problem for that? lol
[07:52] <Aven> everytime I upload a song in a media player, it always says "this file is not an audio stream"
[07:52] <Aven> however it is 100% audio stream and I can play it in XMMS
[07:52] <saik0> tibbe, oh and swap about the size of my RAM
[07:53] <tibbe> saik0: do you feel that it's worth it to have a separate /boot?
[07:53] <d2812> aven: what do you mean by upload a song? ftp?
[07:53] <Aven> d2812: I mean, adding it to the playlist and stuff
[07:53] <tibbe> also, should I check round to cylinders when making partitions?
[07:54] <Aven> lots of media players say "this is not a valid audio stream" except a few
[07:54] <sladen> tibbe: probably 10G root, 30G home
[07:54] <tibbe> saik0: do you use an extended partition or just put everything on the 4 primary partitions?
[07:54] <saik0> tibbe, I do beacuse i use ext3 for /boot and xfs for / and /home.
[07:54] <Aven> they're also .mp3
[07:56] <saik0> tibbe, for desktop use i maily use 4 Primary partitions
[07:56] <rtux> Hello Ubunters.. do you think it's a nice day today?
[07:56] <nyxie> yes
[07:56] <dgh1973> it's always a nice day
[07:56] <d2812> aven: afraid i cant really help. i find moc does everything for me.
[07:56] <rtux> Great!
[07:57] <Aven> d2812: is that a media player?
[07:57] <Aven> if so, does it work with ipod?
[07:57] <d2812> aven: yes it is a media player, but i dont think it works with ipod.
[07:57] <rtux> I have a question if someone minds to answer. I have tried hard to configure my ATI driver. The end result is.. it's configured as Radeon 9500 pro instead of Radeon 9700 pro. What can I do to make sure I configure it correctly?
[07:58] <goki-> rtux, does it work?
[07:58] <rtux> It works. But I think it causes Freezing sometimes. Not stable.
[07:59] <axisys> how to read docs of different language in OO?
[07:59] <Aven> d2812: to open it, is the command 'moc'?
[07:59] <Aven> doesn't seem to work for me
[07:59] <d2812> mocp
[08:00] <Aven> ah ok
[08:00] <rtux> helloo? where are the gurus?
[08:00] <d2812> aven : to quit it is Q (case sensitive), and moc will play in the background. you can even close the terminal
[08:01] <d2812> aven: h is help, and to shut it off, type moc -x at the command line
[08:01] <naknomik> Is there a way to install ubuntu over the network without downloading the whole CD?
[08:01] <Aven> ooh ok, ty
[08:01] <jme> axisys, can't you just open them?
[08:01] <Ares> !info firefox
[08:01] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.4-0ubuntu6.06 (dapper), package size 7725 kB, installed size 22888 kB
[08:01] <axisys> jme: when i open i see all wired characters..
[08:02] <jme> oh, that's more a font support issue
[08:02] <jme> what language is the document in?
[08:02] <nyxie> there's a good video/image recognition software fos linux?
[08:02] <axisys> jme: in bengali
[08:02] <dgh1973> rtux: sorry, not much experience with ATI, I've always heard their Linux support is a bit sub-par
[08:03] <rtux> dghl1973.. do you know about xorg configuration?
[08:03] <d2812> avan - I meant mocp -x to quit
[08:03] <jme> axisys, try the fix at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=208202
[08:03] <Ares> How would I go about switching my current Firefox profile with the Windows Firefox profile [on hda1]  without having to log back into windows? [Please] 
[08:03] <divorcedpop> chris^
[08:04] <goki-> rtux, I'm not a guru in any sense, but I have heard/experienced major instability with ATi under linux, if they even work
[08:04] <goki-> rtux, some people say they can get them working perfectly, but I'm not so sure :)
[08:04] <axisys> jme: let me look, ty
[08:04] <naknomik> Is there an installation guide for Ubuntu?
[08:05] <KenSentMe> naknomik: check help.ubuntu.com , but the installation should be pretty easy
[08:05] <dgh1973> naknomik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[08:05] <rtux> goki I think I did it before by luck but I don't seem to be able to do it again. The problem is.. I am trying to change OpenGL to direct rendering, get what I am saying?
[08:05] <dgh1973> see the FAQ
[08:05] <jbwiv> guys, the default initrd installed on my dapper install includes dm-mod.ko...the device mapper support for LVM, because my root is installed on an LV. I'm trying to regenerate an initrd and for the LIFE of me can't get dm-mod to be included. I've added it to /etc/mkinitramfs/modules (as dm_mod), but the resulting image doesn't include it. Can anyone  tell me what I'm doing wrong?
[08:05] <sysdoc> naknomik, see this page: http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ and find Alternate install CD
[08:05] <naknomik> KenSentMe: All I want to really find out is if it is possible to install Ubuntu over the network.
[08:06] <ompaul> !install
[08:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:06] <sysdoc> naknomik, the answer is yes
[08:06] <Consty> When using flash drives with FAT after a while of using them in ubuntu they begin to have some weird problems.  I get a FAT filesystem panic and it remounts it as read only.. the only way to fix it is to bring the drive to windows and repair it using chkdsk
[08:06] <Consty> Any idea as to why this happens?
[08:06] <Consty> If I switch to fat32 will it repair the problem?
[08:06] <ompaul> naknomik, read the wiki page there - be aware that there is also help.ubuntu.com as a url
[08:07] <naknomik> sysdoc: OK let me check
[08:07] <goki-> Consty, are you unmounting the drive before removing it?
[08:07] <jbwiv> I will ship the first person to answer an nice, slightly chilled Guiness...
[08:07] <idefix> is it possible for anyone to see my desktopwallpaper?
[08:07] <Consty> goki-: Yes.. the only thing that I cannot be sure of is when shutting down ubuntu while the drive is in the slot
[08:07] <Consty> goki-: I'm assuming ubuntu auto umounts it...
[08:08] <Consty> goki-: but maybe not?
[08:08] <Ares> idefix: What do you mean?
[08:08] <d2812> idefix : if they are behind you - yeah :)
[08:08] <idefix> well, remote desktopping should be possible now in the year 2006
[08:08] <goki-> Consty, it should do yup
[08:08] <rtux> Ok.. this question is important for me now. Does Dapper update provide new driver configurations or just apps and security?
[08:08] <Ares> idefix: Through a remote connection or if they are behind/near you, then yes.
[08:08] <Consty> goki-: yeah well I'm still getting the problem...  its very weird
[08:08] <goki-> Consty, FAT32 is better than FAT, so it seems worth a try
[08:08] <idefix> how can one make such a remote connection? is it difficult?
[08:08] <goki-> well, FAT32 vs FAT16
[08:09] <Ares> idefix: It is out of the scope of this chat, but you can google around for OpenSSH how-to and such.
[08:09] <wiking> how to install opera? i have deb package on desktop.
[08:09] <jme> Anyone have experience getting Atmel wireless cards to work?
[08:09] <dgh1973> idefix: VNC is a method of doing this, however X itself allows this with "xhost +" on your box and someone else doing xwd and pointing to your IP and X session port
[08:09] <dgh1973> idefix: be aware of the security implications of that though
[08:10] <idefix> so if someone is remotely using my desktop, bad guys could hack my PC?
[08:10] <_absolution_> where would I get Aterm?
[08:10] <Ares> idefix: Um, sorta.
[08:10] <dgh1973> idefix: with VNC you set a password
[08:10] <Ares> Idefix: Don't let it be a weak/stupid password.
[08:11] <dgh1973> idefix: with "xhost +" you potentially open up more
[08:11] <d2812> wiking: try dpkg -i filename
[08:11] <dgh1973> idefix: but if you just want to show someone your desktop wallpaper it's probably safer/easier to send them an email
[08:12] <Spec> hey, i'm at an airport and I'm trying to apt-get update and I'm getting stuck on "Waiting for headers", i can ftp into archive.ubuntu.com and I can wget from archive.ubuntu.com as well ... why does it stay stuck at 'waiting for headers'?
[08:12] <idefix> it is really awesome
[08:13] <Lynoure> Spec: does it normally work for you?
[08:13] <dgh1973> idefix: xhost can be fine tuned to allow only certain ip's or users to, if you know the ip addy of your friend you can do "xhost + ip_address" and tell them to do something like "xwd your_ip:6000" (something like that)
[08:13] <wiking> d2812: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[08:13] <saik0> idefix, Theres also FreeNx which tunnels an X session through ssh, and has better compression than just xhost
[08:13] <Spec> Lynoure: yes
[08:13] <m_tadeu> hi....can anyone help with SynCE?
[08:13] <Ignite_> hey, i'm having a big of an issue here, i wiped windows, copied my data from another hard disk that used the NTFS file system until now, reformated it as ext3, edited /etc/fstab to use it as my home, (obviously backing up me /home data first.. deleting it and restoring it) then copied my data to my home directory, now i can't access them, i've even tried "sudo chmod -R 777 /home/oliver/*" out of frustration, any ideas?
[08:13] <Ares> !info SynCE
[08:13] <ubotu> Package SynCE does not exist in dapper
[08:13] <Spec> Lynoure: what could they possibly block to not let apt get the headers? I can wget just finen ...
[08:14] <Spec> -n
[08:14] <Lynoure> Spec: this is an insomniac advice, but I'd say not to get worried about it, updage later unless you know there is a serious security bug in need of fixing and blame the airport net unless it happens again elsewhere
[08:15] <dgh1973> Could be proxy problem?
[08:15] <Spec> i suppose, but wget works fine, doesn't apt just use wget or the equivalent?
[08:15] <slonnik> hi all guys
[08:15] <Spec> i mean, apt only commmunicates over port 80 as far as i know
[08:15] <dgh1973> Spec: yes I think you are correct
[08:15] <ropex> Hi
[08:15] <Spec> so unless they have a specific content filter against .debs or something akin to that
[08:15] <Lynoure> Spec: yep, me too, that's why the advice.
[08:16] <debarshi> ropex, hi
[08:16] <wiking> d2812: ???
[08:16] <Lynoure> Spec: or serious limiting of simultaneous connects, maybe
[08:16] <d2812> wiking: just trying to install now
[08:16] <ropex> Hi.. im trying to download the xchat from xchat.org but ubuntu distro doesnt appear.. for wich one should i download ?
[08:16] <Reven> hey
[08:16] <d2812> wiking: do you get opera depends on libqt3-mt (>= 3.3.4); ?
[08:16] <wiking> d2812: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[08:16] <Reven> banzai
[08:17] <cntb> !xchat
[08:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about xchat
[08:17] <Spec> where are the header files?
[08:17] <Reven> dew living hot
[08:17] <Spec> I wanna try to specifically wget a header file and see what happens
[08:17] <slonnik> i would like say great thanx to authors of ubuntu i really enjoyed it
[08:17] <wiking> d2812: ??? what a libqt3 ???
[08:17] <Reven> for what is this channel????
[08:17] <d2812> wiking: is that the message you get?
[08:18] <Reven> please answer me
[08:18] <dgh1973> Reven: support
[08:18] <Reven> thanks
[08:18] <wiking> d2812: which one?
[08:18] <cntb> slslonnik it is many contributors and Canonical
[08:18] <dgh1973> Reven: Topic explains purpose
[08:18] <Jack_Sparrow> ropex:  did you try synaptic or apt-get first
[08:18] <Lynoure> Reven: It's a support channel for Ubuntu Linux
[08:18] <d2812> wiking: "opera depends on libqt3-mt (>= 3.3.4);"
[08:18] <juztin> hi, i have a wireless logitech keyboard that has some buttons on it for media control....i would really like to get them working with amarok.  how do i do this?
[08:19] <cntb> juztin not a clue
[08:19] <cntb> must be logitech's  responsibility
[08:19] <wiking> d2812: no, opera depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.2.1)
[08:20] <Lynoure> Spec: you country try fiddling with apt.conf for warmth and passtime
[08:20] <Ignite_> omg help!, none of my data will retain its permissions or ownership info, i can't access it unless using sudo! please help me :(
[08:20] <Spec> have
[08:20] <Spec> :)
[08:20] <slonnik> cntb: i am a newre in the linux and ubutnu is really iwas loking for
[08:20] <dgh1973> juztin: try looking into "dcop", amarok probably has a bunch of dcop calls that can be issued to it for various functions.  There is a keybinding utility in KDE (sorry forgot name of it) that can map keystrokes to dcop functions
[08:21] <sja> chown and/or chmod
[08:21] <d2812> wiking : type "sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt"
[08:21] <juztin> dgh1973, i'm using gnome though
[08:21] <cntb> ubuntu is the friendliest linux ever
[08:21] <Ignite_> sja, if you were talking to me, i've tried that
[08:21] <d2812> that gets the missing dependancy
[08:21] <Ignite_> sja, it won't retain it, but i get no errors
[08:21] <bur[n] er_>  juztin dgh1973: kdcop is the kde thing
[08:21] <slonnik> cntb: i am reading article about windows vista and smiling :)
[08:21] <juztin> bur[n] er_, but i'm using gnome, will it still work?
[08:21] <blackmabool> how can i update to the latest flash player?
[08:22] <bur[n] er_> juztin: yes... amarok is a kde app... so it uses dcop calls
[08:22] <d2812> wiking: you may then have to type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[08:22] <Lynoure> Spec: the pipeline depth might be worth trying
[08:22] <Jack_Sparrow> lgnite data from whic program?
[08:22] <Spec> pipeline depth?
[08:22] <juztin> bur[n] er_, ok thanks :)
[08:22] <juztin> dgh1973, thanks :)
[08:22] <sja> ignite-> do a "sudo chown yourid:yourgroup *" in the directory above what you want to change
[08:22] <dgh1973> juztin: in that case you can get a utility called xbindkeys and follow similar advice, most kde apps should launch the dcop server when they run (I think at least) so they can receive signals, xbindkeys is a generic keymapping program
[08:22] <sja> uh, make that "sudo chown -R yourid:yourgroup *"
[08:22] <d2812> wiking : that got opera working on my machine
[08:22] <Lynoure> Spec: (but like I said before, I'm working on way too little sleep... so my advice is to be taken with loads of caution today)
[08:22] <cntb> slonnik: check this out http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[08:23] <naknomik> Is there a way to upgrade from 5.0 to 6.06?
[08:23] <Eazy-> juztin: http://www.yoper.com/wiki/index.php?title=Setting_up_multimedia_keyboards_in_Yoper
[08:23] <Ignite_> sja right, i will try, but i've done it before, only without the group part
[08:23] <Eazy-> this works in ubuntu also
[08:23] <dgh1973> juztin: unfortunately you are running into a classic dilemma of running applications that are not fully integrated with your desktop
[08:23] <Eazy-> but you need to bind all buttons in each program
[08:23] <Ignite_> sja, no change
[08:23] <sysdoc> naknomik, yea can do it through the net
[08:23] <juztin> Eazy-, checkin it out, thanks :)
[08:23] <cntb> I can hear flight personnel from NASA thru Real PLayer on ubuntu right now
[08:23] <wiking> d2812: "(Reading database ... 58584 files and directories currently installed.)
[08:23] <wiking> Removing opera ...
[08:23] <wiking> "
[08:24] <juztin> dgh1973, i know....but i'm determined :D
[08:24] <cntb> some 30 min or so to launch
[08:24] <Flamekebab> Aloha guys
[08:24] <sja> ignite-> Hmmm, strange ... in that case, I dunno
[08:24] <Spec> Lynoure: what is pipe line depth?
[08:24] <dgh1973> juztin: you could probably make them work in rhythmbox but making them work in a kde app will take a bit of work
[08:24] <Ignite_> sja, thanks anyway
[08:24] <d2812> wiking : that after the -f install?
[08:24] <sysdoc> naknomik, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[08:24] <juztin> dgh1973, i gotta get it to work lol....i like amarok way too much, and i don't like kde
[08:24] <Flamekebab> I'm wondering whether anyone has any advice to me on using Kino under Dapper
[08:24] <naknomik> sysdoc: yup reading that.
[08:24] <sja> ignite->, create a root password ("sudo passwd root"), then su root (rather than being stuck using sudo) ...
[08:25] <wiking> d2812: yes
[08:25] <sja> ignite-> and try again
[08:25] <Lynoure> Spec: see man apt.conf   , it prolly won't help but maybe might, if there is something seriously wrong with the proxy there
[08:25] <erUSUL> !root
[08:25] <xeph> Help! I just got my Ubuntu 6.06 from ShipIt today and I can't upgrade from Breezy. How do I go about doing so?
[08:25] <dgh1973> juztin: if you are determined enough do a bit of research on dcop calls, you'll understand what I mean in time, and xbindkeys, I think those will do the trick for you
[08:25] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:25] <blackmabool> how can i update to the latest flash player?
[08:25] <wdh> hi ppls.. i currently have a second harddrive with an LVM, mounted on /data. I am planning to replace the harddrive with a larger one and use the existing for something else. I would like to get rid of the LVM part too.. Does anyone see any complications for doing it like this? "dd if=/dev/mapper/lvmvolume of=/dev/hdc1"??
[08:25] <Flamekebab> I've got it working but I need it to allow me to import MP4 files, taken with my nokia N70
[08:25] <juztin> dgh1973, ok, thanks!
[08:25] <dgh1973> juztin: xbindkeys also allows you to "detect" the keystrokes by pressing them in a little window and it will spit out the code to use in an .xbindkeysrc file
[08:25] <slonnik> cntb i like tha everythin is in my power and everything is free
[08:25] <erUSUL> sja: the ubuntu way is sudo -i (which will give you a root shell)
[08:25] <d2812> wiking : what happens if you try opera at the command line?
[08:26] <juztin> dgh1973, really...i need that
[08:26] <sysdoc> naknomik, be aware that if your current kernel is a custom compiled one, then that method may not install the drivers and can fail. It did on me
[08:26] <d2812> wiking sorry, type opera at the command line
[08:26] <concept10> how do I clear a package that will not install?
[08:26] <senn> xeph. i had breezy and upgraded with the download link it worked fine
[08:26] <juztin> dgh1973, xev does that as well
[08:26] <slonnik> of cause in my country windows is very chip and you can by it everywhere :)
[08:26] <wiking> d2812: /usr/lib/opera/9.00-20060616.5/opera: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:26] <naknomik> sysdoc: no this is my first Ubuntu install. I'm coming from the land of Fedora and CentOS.
[08:26] <xeph> senn, I'm on dialup, it'll take me ages to upgrade via the internet
[08:26] <Lynoure> Spec: out of curiousity, which airport?
[08:27] <sja> erUSUL->  I know, the ubuntu way ... don't make it the right way ... sometimes you need root without the sudo BS
[08:27] <dgh1973> juztin: yeah, then you just do something like "dcop amorok function to play" and map that to a key, you'll need to learn exactly what dcop calls amorok likes though.  Ya xev to, I think there are others as well - good luck to you!
[08:27] <cntb> http://www.nasa.gov/ram/35037main_portal.ram
[08:27] <Flamekebab> no one on here has any experience using Kino?
[08:27] <sysdoc> naknomik, Then just download the CD and just go for it!
[08:27] <spikeb> sja: no you don't. that's what sudo -i is for
[08:27] <d2812> wiking : what happened after you typed  "sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt"?
[08:27] <erUSUL> sja: if you need root (account) then is a bug in ubuntu and should be submited bugs.ubuntu.com ;)
[08:28] <sja> spikeb-> still rather have a real root account
[08:28] <chrisbudden14> evening
[08:28] <spikeb> there's no need for it.
[08:28] <dgh1973> spikeb: agreed
[08:28] <Lynoure> spike, sja: quite the other way around: sometimes you don't want to trust your account with sudo :)
[08:28] <amarokker> Is there any application that allows one to capture a scrolling web page in linux?
[08:28] <Eazy-> juztin: or you can just install KDE and pick your keyboard i kcontrol and it works ;)
[08:28] <Ignite_> hrm.. i've narrowed my problem down a little, i can see permissions etc.. using sudo but not without :'(
[08:28] <aztracker1> okay, trying to change my video card (ubuntu desktop 6.06) from a radeon 7000 series to an nvidia mx4000 series..
[08:28] <wiking> Reading package lists... Done
[08:28] <wiking> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:28] <wiking> You might want to run apt-get -f install to correct these:
[08:28] <wiking> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:28] <wiking>   libqt3-mt: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed
[08:28] <wiking>              Depends: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0) but 2.2.3-4ubuntu7 is to be installed
[08:28] <amarokker> or do i need to cut it and patch it up, bit by bit?
[08:28] <wiking>              Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.1) but 1:4.0-0pre6ubuntu7 is to be installed
[08:28] <wiking>              Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.1) but it is not going to be installed
[08:28] <aztracker1> the display wasn't very good..
[08:28] <dgh1973> that's what editing the sudoers file is for
[08:28] <wiking>   opera: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.2.1) but it is not installable
[08:28] <wiking> E: Unmet dependencies. Try apt-get -f install with no packages (or specify a solution).
[08:28] <d2812> wiking : stop
[08:28] <aztracker1> how do I get x to reconfigure?
[08:28] <Eazy-> is there not a think like that in gnome?
[08:28] <amarokker> Do'h- whats wiking doing?
[08:29] <erUSUL> wiking: do not paste here use a pastebin please
[08:29] <erUSUL> !pastebin > wiking
[08:29] <cntb> wiking hold your horses boy
[08:29] <wiking> really sorry
[08:29] <d2812> we are trying to get opera working for wiking
[08:29] <juztin> Eazy-, i don't think there is
[08:29] <juztin> Eazy-, i can't find it anyway
[08:29] <sys8976> can someone go look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17186 and tell me how I can fix it? This same error has happened on a few installs that I have tried
[08:29] <cntb> you were this close to be kicked by ymoderators
[08:29] <slonnik> d2818 use firefox instead
[08:29] <amarokker> Flamekebab: tell me bout it- :P
[08:29] <senn> xeph then try a app from hiedy called eraser.  make a floppy and boot with it .it will over write your hdd and will leave you with a clean install. warning you WILL loose all your data.
[08:30] <aztracker1> sorry for jumping in... if anyone knows, would be greatly appreciated... how does one have the X redetect the video card, and autoconfig?
[08:30] <aztracker1> like in the initial setup?
[08:30] <dgh1973> juztin: there is, but if it does anything it will do it for rhythmbox, not amorok
[08:30] <d2812> slonnik : wiking wanted to use opera
[08:30] <spikeb> aztracker1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:30] <dgh1973> juztin: what kind of keyboard?
[08:30] <amarokker> wiking:  i use opera :)
[08:30] <erUSUL> aztracker1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:30] <Pjay_> hi, just installed ubuntu off the server cd and it doesnt seem to have a gui what do i need to do?
[08:30] <juztin> dgh1973, its a logitech wireless S 510
[08:30] <Eazy-> juztin: the link I gave you is some work, but it will work...its universal for all distros I think....so save the script for the future :)
[08:30] <sys8976> aztracker1: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:30] <juztin> dgh1973, the really flat one
[08:30] <sja> ignite-> if you can see the permissions with sudo, can you changed them?  You really need to change the ownership to yourself.
[08:31] <slonnik> d2812 hmm starnge maybe it will be easier to explain that firefox is much better
[08:31] <bjron> anyone got a favorite program for reducing the bitrate (and I would hope the file size) of an ogg vorbis file?
[08:31] <MrGreen> !eth0
[08:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about eth0
[08:31] <juztin> Eazy-, i'm checking that out now, mapping out the keys as we speak :)
[08:31] <MrGreen> !dhcp
[08:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about dhcp
[08:31] <Eazy-> :)
[08:31] <amarokker> although- the latest build 9.02 is very slow on linux- anyone's noticed?
[08:31] <MrGreen> !network
[08:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about network
[08:31] <Flamekebab> Is there a good video converter available for Ubuntu/Linux
[08:31] <sys8976> erUSUL: lol beat me at that one'
[08:31] <sys8976> can someone go look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17186 and tell me how I can fix it? This same error has happened on a few installs that I have tried
[08:31] <MrGreen> !lan
[08:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about lan
[08:31] <d2812> wiking : can you paste that message at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[08:31] <MrGreen> !ethernet
[08:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about ethernet
[08:31] <amarokker> and i think, firefox's better now in terms of performance.
[08:31] <amarokker> hahaha.
[08:31] <Consty> Flamekebab: About the only useful one is mencoder, but its all command line so its not very user friendly
[08:31] <Flamekebab> urgh
[08:31] <erUSUL> Pjay_: a server usually do not need a gui ;) you can isntall one (sudo apt-get install { xk}ubuntu-desktop)
[08:32] <MrGreen> running ubuntu dapper trying to set up network (lan)
[08:32] <Flamekebab> Sometimes I really HATE Linux.
[08:32] <dgh1973> juztin: there are a handful of logitech layout options in System>Preferences>Keyboard (then layouts tab) but again if it's there and it detects the keys it will probably only set up bindings that will operate with rhythmbox
[08:32] <juztin> Eazy-, mysteriously enough, the volume up/down button already works for system volume
[08:32] <aztracker1> -bash: sudu: command not found
[08:32] <MrGreen> added modules for lan card but!!
[08:32] <spikeb> aztracker1: sudo, not sudu :)
[08:32] <amarokker> Flamekebab: you might find what you're looking for on KDe-apps.org
[08:32] <Eazy-> did for me aswell
[08:32] <Flamekebab> we've got about four hundred editors, countless LaTeX things
[08:32] <aztracker1> lol, my bad..
[08:32] <Consty> Flamekebab: thats about the only program I wish I had too.
[08:32] <Eazy-> but not the other buttons
[08:32] <Flamekebab> but few good medium-skilled end-users  apps
[08:32] <Consty> Flamekebab: It'd be nice to have something like virtualdub for linux
[08:32] <MrGreen> I need to set up network
[08:32] <Flamekebab> hell yes
[08:32] <Eazy-> got a internet logitech
[08:32] <Pjay_> erUSUL, the desktop cd sounded like a live cd in the description, would i be best off just getting the other cd and reinstalling
[08:32] <Flamekebab> I have videos from my Nokia N70
[08:32] <Flamekebab> in MP4 format
[08:32] <Flamekebab> not sure on codec
[08:33] <[Fractal] > hi!, I have some problems installing linux, could somebody help me ?
[08:33] <sys8976> erUSUL: can you go look at the pastebin I have set or are you tied up right now?
[08:33] <Flamekebab> but I'd hazard a guess at H264
[08:33] <dgh1973> whats the problem [Fractal] ?
[08:33] <amarokker> Flamekebab: can you sync it with linux?
[08:33] <sys8976> Fractal what is going on?
[08:33] <amarokker> i mean the N70-
[08:33] <Flamekebab> not a clue, ne'er tried
[08:33] <Flamekebab> might do at some point though
[08:33] <erUSUL> Pjay_: if you have inet connection doing what i said will install everything you need afaik (sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop)
[08:33] <Flamekebab> currently I'm more concerned about getting Kino to open my MP4s
[08:34] <Pjay_> would that be better than just getting the other cd?
[08:34] <senn> fractal go to the ubuntu forums page for the how too's
[08:34] <Flamekebab> I'm quite good at some things under Linux, but my knowledge isn't complete, obviously
[08:34] <erUSUL> sys8976: i looked but that errors are as cryptic to me as they are to you... :(
[08:34] <Flamekebab> but I've got quite a bit of experience with video formats
[08:34] <amarokker> yeah- its a bit of a bother to get the data read through the card reader each time- i tried getting one of those XDA smart phones working usnig KSynCE- it just keeps crashing.
[08:34] <juztin> Eazy-, my mute works as well :P
[08:34] <dgh1973> Flamekebab: I think kino only works with .dv files natively, however it can convert them to other formats or convert other formats to .dv
[08:34] <wiking> d2812: i need just insert my name & text?
[08:34] <Lynoure> sys8976: Was that all of the error?
[08:35] <codecaine> when I open a link from gaim or irc it takes me to http://www.arizona.edu/
[08:35] <Flamekebab> I know that Kino can import MJPEG
[08:35] <codecaine> what could cause that?
[08:35] <d2812> wiking : yes
[08:35] <[Fractal] > sys8976, it seems that there is no partitions on my hard drives
[08:35] <Consty> Flamekebab: Well the creator of virtualdub said that anyone can use the code to try and port it
[08:35] <Flamekebab> and I think it can handle DivX too
[08:35] <Eazy-> juztin: didnt for me...must be becaus we dont have exactly the same keyboard
[08:35] <Flamekebab> Consty - I can do many things, but sadly, coding isn't one of them
[08:35] <Lynoure> sys8976: someones one gets info about in what part the error was ran into.
[08:35] <sysdoc> Flamekebab, see the forum there are posts with lists of programs that you can use for different tasks there...
[08:35] <juztin> Eazy-, i also have a home key that i'd like to get setup so when i hit it, it opens nautilus
[08:35] <Flamekebab> I've not got the logical and mathematical mind required
[08:35] <wiking> d2812: & send?
[08:35] <dgh1973> Flamekebab: right and mpeg2 as well, forgot
[08:35] <Ignite_> http://pastecode.com/962 <-= please can someone help? i really need my data, i have over 30GB of files/work which i can't access, that paste is the output of "ls -l Music/" from my home directory
[08:35] <erUSUL> [Fractal] : paste the output of 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdxx' in a pastebin
[08:35] <Eazy-> juztin: have you tried to just bind your keys in amarok?
[08:36] <juztin> Eazy-, not sure how
[08:36] <wiking> d2812: yap
[08:36] <Flamekebab> sysdoc - posted on the forum both in [desktop]  support and in the mailing list
[08:36] <dgh1973> Flamekebab: does it not even offer to import them to a dv format? (the mpeg4s?)
[08:36] <Flamekebab> got ignored there too
[08:36] <martyn> How to i auto mount NTFS Partions
[08:36] <Flamekebab> when I try and open them, it tries to import them
[08:36] <Flamekebab> but fails
[08:36] <Flamekebab> same with 3GPs
[08:36] <Lynoure> sys8976: what happens if you install them in smaller bits? I think you can e.g. install clvm first
[08:36] <Flamekebab> I'm only really concerned with MP4s though at present
[08:36] <sja> ignite-> Ugh!  That's ugly!  No idea that's going on
[08:36] <sysdoc> Flamekebab, No, do a search there are already posts there with lists of pgms to use.
[08:37] <dgh1973> Flamekebab: difficult thing is, if it's a proprietary format people may not know much or care to help
[08:37] <Eazy-> juztin: in amarok --> settings ---> global shortcuts
[08:37] <Consty> Flamekebab: Ohhhh I found something.
[08:37] <Consty> Flamekebab: http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/  looks promising!
[08:37] <juztin> Eazy-, yeah, just found it....it doesn't work
[08:37] <slugicide> Hello all.  when I try to 'dpkg --configure -a' it stalls at the flashplugin part.  It just hangs there.  Any suggestions?
[08:37] <sys8976> Lynoure: thanks I will look into that one
[08:37] <codecaine> how can I make it so when I right click on my desktop I can choose gnome terminal?
[08:37] <juztin> Eazy-, you can't type in a keycode, you have to hit the key...and when i hit the key, nothing comes up
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> martyn: do you want them mounted every time you boot and do you intend to write to them.. (Not advised)
[08:37] <Eazy-> I have a swedish kubuntu so I dont really know exactly how it looks for you
[08:37] <Flamekebab> Consty, investigating
[08:37] <Eazy-> ah
[08:38] <Consty> Flamekebab: oh wow, its actually in the repositories too.. sweet
[08:38] <dgh1973> Consty: Flamekebab: yeah, that's part of automatix to which can automatically get a bunch of proprietary format related software for you
[08:38] <erUSUL> Ignite_: what is the problem? 'sudo chown -r <youruser>.users Music/*' and then 'sudo chmod -r 755 Music/*'
[08:38] <spikeb> ugh, automatix.
[08:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix
[08:38] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[08:38] <d2812> wiking : just reading now
[08:38] <martyn> Jack_Sparrow: no mate its just for acsess i was givven a auto mount script in here before but cant find it any where
[08:38] <Eazy-> juztin: then go on with the guide then :)
[08:38] <Eazy-> will work
[08:38] <sys8976> Lynoure: sorry scrolled up and seen what is all error that is it out of terminal. I was redoing my xorg config with dpkg and that is what I got at the end of the config
[08:38] <Ignite_> erUSUL, i've been trying that for hours
[08:38] <Jack_Sparrow> That was me.. diskmounter
[08:38] <[Fractal] > erUSUL fdisk returns nothing
[08:38] <Flamekebab> I know it's a proprietary format, but what am I supposed to do, buy only hardware that deals natively in open video codecs?
[08:39] <dgh1973> Thanks JAck
[08:39] <Ignite_> erUSUL, i can only see the file permissions/owner/group info with sudo
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[08:39] <Eazy-> juztin: leave the buttons that allready works
[08:39] <erUSUL> Ignite_: what is the error you get when you try the comand?
[08:39] <wiking> d2812: ok
[08:39] <juztin> Eazy-, will i have to install KDE?  it's telling me to go to a directory ~/.kde/Autostart ... i have the directory .kde for some reason, but no autostart....and kde isn't installed
[08:39] <Ignite_> erUSUL, none.. not one
[08:39] <dgh1973> Flamekebab: that's what stallman would tell you, but we all know reality is more complex than that
[08:39] <Flamekebab> Stallman's a dogmatic git though
[08:39] <dgh1973> Flamekebab: check out www.getautomatix.org
[08:39] <dgh1973> Flamekebab: /agreed
[08:39] <Flamekebab> shall do later, dgh1973
[08:39] <Eazy-> juztin: think there is some autostart in gnome...I dont know
[08:40] <martyn> Jack_Sparrow: no mate its just for acsess i was givven a auto mount script in here before but cant find it any where
[08:40] <slugicide> Hello all.  when I try to 'dpkg --configure -a' it stalls at the flashplugin part.  It just hangs there.  Any suggestions?
[08:40] <Lynoure> sys8976: also, in some cases doing sudo dpkg --configure --pending in some cases can help
[08:40] <codecaine> can you smb to windows from ubuntu?
[08:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Diskmounter says you dont need to reboot, but to see them on the desktop you will need to restert
[08:40] <Flamekebab> I'm currently chatting from a Xubuntu live CD distro
[08:40] <codecaine> like make file shares on ubuntu
[08:40] <dgh1973> Eazy-: System>Preferences>Sessions
[08:40] <Flamekebab> in the process of installing it
[08:40] <d2812> wiking : try running apt-get -f install again, afaik, that *should* fix the dependancy issue for libqt3-mt
[08:40] <erUSUL> Ignite_: but the files do not change the mod nor the owner/group, right?
[08:40] <Flamekebab> wanted to get some useful info for use on my laptop later
[08:40] <dgh1973> Eazy-: Then startup programs tab
[08:40] <Flamekebab> Stallman would be pleased though - all my music is in Ogg Vorbis!
[08:40] <Flamekebab> 20GB iRiver = digital audio luvin'
[08:41] <Eazy-> juztin: you saw what dgh1973 just wrote? :)
[08:41] <Ignite_> erUSUL, thats right
[08:41] <juztin> Eazy-, yup
[08:41] <aztracker1> thanks for the help... working now.. :)
[08:41] <Consty> Flamekebab: Wow it looks REALLY promising actually.. I'm messing with it right now
[08:41] <Eazy-> :)
[08:41] <erUSUL> Ignite_: what type of filesystem does Music live?
[08:41] <aztracker1> spikeb, erUSUL, sys8976, thanks.. later
[08:41] <Ignite_> erUSUL, ext3
[08:41] <Eazy-> I feel it kind of hard to follow what ppl says here...so much text :P
[08:41] <martyn> how do i mount an NTFS and FAT 32 partions ?
[08:42] <sys8976> welcome later
[08:42] <spikeb> aztracker1: no problem, glad i could help
[08:42] <dgh1973> bbl all
[08:42] <sys8976> Lynoure: yea I did sudo but I had 3 others things installing at same time :D
[08:42] <Ignite_> marcels, mount -t vfat (or ntfs) /dev/<device> <location to mount>
[08:42] <Ignite_> martyn, *
[08:42] <Ignite_> i should stop using tab complete in such full channels..
[08:42] <erUSUL> Ignite_: it is very weird root (sudo) should be able to change de perms and owner and everythin of the files
 i had a n auto mount last time i was in here
[08:43] <erUSUL> !ntfs > martyn
[08:43] <sys8976> well ALL I am out I am going to go burn the yard down grilling since we are celebrating the 4th here have fun and stay true to OSS happy 4th to those that it applies to everyone else have a great day/night
[08:43] <[Fractal] > erUSUL, I have done fdisk -l /dev/hdxx and I have no answer
[08:43] <juztin> Eazy-, hmmm....now i need the KDE command-line commands i think
[08:43] <Ignite_> erUSUL, it does change them, but only sudo can _see_ the changes, "oliver" can't
[08:43] <[Fractal] > not error, nor messages
[08:43] <martyn> thx mate
[08:43] <thotz> Has anybody got a DESKJET 6840? I'm having a problem with it when I print from OpenOffice!
[08:43] <erUSUL> Ignite_: but you changed the owner to the user you want?
[08:43] <Ignite_> yes
[08:43] <Ignite_> "oliver" owns all the files in /home/oliver
[08:44] <Ignite_> which is where Music resides
[08:44] <Flamekebab> is it easy to encode to theora under linux?
[08:44] <Ignite_> erUSUL, all the files which i have the problem with were originally on a NTFS partition
[08:44] <Eazy-> juztin: for what you mean?
[08:44] <erUSUL> [Fractal] : estoy en ubuntu-es hablemaos all hay menos jaleo
[08:44] <[Fractal] > ok, gracias
[08:45] <slugicide> Anyone know why dpkg hangs when installing flashplugin-nonfree?
[08:45] <wiking> d2812: how to stop file loading? :/
[08:45] <erUSUL> Ignite_: have you tried the chown command as i told you?
[08:45] <Lynoure> sys8976: Have fun, don't get burned.
[08:45] <juztin> Eazy-, maybe not...but i dont' understand what i'm supposed to put for the last part in the text file you create...for instance, from his example, #email client ... is that just for reference, or is that a command?
[08:45] <Consty> Flamekebab: holy crap!  it works for what I need it for.. I like to strip certain stuff out of anime episodes like intro and ending.. and it works perfect for it
[08:45] <Flamekebab> sweet monkey tuesdays!
[08:45] <d2812> wiking : on the phone
[08:46] <Flamekebab> do you reckon it'll open MP4s and allow me to save as a format Kino will like?
[08:46] <juztin> Eazy-, nevermind
[08:46] <Flamekebab> oooooh, just had an idea
[08:46] <juztin> Eazy-, it's comments
[08:46] <Eazy->  juztin: just for reference
[08:46] <Ignite_> erUSUL, i've been playing with chown, chmod and chgrp for hours now, numerous different settings, i can only see permission info with ls -l if i use sudo, not just executing ls -l normally, and no other program (like amarok) can access the files either
[08:46] <zHack> hey, for some odd reason ubuntu will not install on my old laptop. its like the cd drive just stops
[08:46] <Flamekebab> if mencoder is command line, couldn't I write a bash script that I could quickly run on video files?
[08:46] <spikeb> Flamekebab: yes you could
[08:46] <wiking> d2812: sorry, please wait 96%
[08:47] <Consty> Flamekebab: it seems like it
[08:47] <Flamekebab> sometimes Linux rocks my face
[08:47] <Flamekebab> however, what's the bet that I'll try and fail hopelessly?
[08:47] <spikeb> you got the whole love/hate thing going on :)
[08:47] <Flamekebab> of course
[08:47] <Flamekebab> better than Windows where it's just a hate/hate relationship
[08:47] <zHack> is there some where that i can get ubuntu or xubuntu in a zip file?
[08:47] <Dragonfyre13> Hey guys.  I have a question about my ethernet.
[08:47] <Dragonfyre13> zHack, Iso is the nly way to go.
[08:47] <Flamekebab> but what can you expect from a relationship with such a gold-digger?
[08:48] <zHack> ok
[08:48] <erUSUL> Ignite_: well i'm afraid i can not help you further... if chmod nor chown con change nothing of the files i'm at a lost. ow do you copied them to the ext3 partition?
[08:48] <Ignite_> erUSUL, http://pastecode.com/963 <-= thats the output of running the command using sudo (sudo ls -l Music/)
[08:48] <Dragonfyre13> zHack, sorry.
[08:48] <zHack> becuase my cable is running slow and is taking for ever to download xubunut
[08:48] <Dragonfyre13> zhack, Try using shipit.
[08:48] <Flamekebab> torrent!
[08:48] <slugicide> So, no help for slugicide?  Come back later?  OK, come back later.
[08:48] <Dragonfyre13> zhack, yes, try torrents.
[08:48] <[Fractal] > bye, thanks for all
[08:49] <Ignite_> erUSUL, i copied them to /backup, then erased the partition they were originally on, formatted that as ext3 and copied them back
[08:49] <zHack> im running at like 14 KB/sec
[08:49] <popi> #xubuntu
[08:49] <Flamekebab> torrents are better than an orgy with five gymnastically-inclined amazonian princesses
[08:49] <_absolution_> if I download an iso file of a distro will it be installed right away?
[08:49] <juztin> Eazy-, this is the part that's not gonna work...i've made the autostart file....but its talking about configuring it to work in kde
[08:49] <Dragonfyre13> zHack, that's not the cable, that's the source. Try a different mirror, or us torrents.
[08:49] <zHack> ok
[08:49] <sysdoc> Flamekebab, lol
[08:49] <d2812> flamekebab : thats debatable :)
[08:49] <erUSUL> Ignite_: what are the permisions of Music (the folder)
[08:50] <Dragonfyre13> Flamekebab, No. No, nothing is better than that. Except perhaps 6.
[08:50] <Flamekebab> hehe
[08:50] <sys8976> Lynoure: hehe thanks
[08:50] <Ignite_> erUSUL, http://pastecode.com/964
[08:51] <Flamekebab> Consty - any luck with avidemux?
[08:51] <Dragonfyre13> I have a question about my ethernet, if someone can help. I think my port is only running at 10 mbps, and it is a gigabit ethernet card. I really just want to bump it to 100 mbps...
[08:51] <mp3guy> when I do sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17189 Whats wrong?
[08:51] <fwtest> i use ubuntu on my centrino laptop, is there any package i can controll the processor frequence?
[08:51] <Eazy-> Juztin: you just made a script that will autostart on both gnome and kde....you just have to do as dgh1973 said
[08:51] <Dragonfyre13> fwtest cpuz
[08:51] <Flamekebab> Don't buy from www.scratchcomputers.com
[08:51] <zHack> what do i need to open a torrent?
[08:51] <Seveas> mp3guy, disable quinnstorms repos
[08:51] <zHack> BitTorrent?
[08:51] <Flamekebab> zHack - a bit torrent client
[08:51] <Dragonfyre13> yep
[08:52] <Ignite_> o.O
[08:52] <fwtest> Dragonfyre13, apt shows nothing about cpuz
[08:52] <Seveas> mp3guy, and probably: downgrade lots of packages to non-quinnstorm versions
[08:52] <Seveas> or ask quinnstorm to fix his things
[08:52] <mp3guy> ok
[08:52] <zHack> what do you think is the best install, ubuntu or xubunutu
[08:52] <Dragonfyre13> fwtest, yep, grab it off sourceforge, or there should be a deb out there.
[08:52] <Dragonfyre13> fwtest, hang on.
[08:53] <Zoba> Hello
[08:53] <erUSUL> Ignite_: i can not see what may be the problem... evething seems just fine...
[08:53] <fwtest> Dragonfyre13, you know other package? because i prefer anything, which can be found in apt repo
[08:53] <Zoba> I'm installing ubuntu for my little brother, but I wonder if there are any good parental control options for his computer?
[08:53] <zHack> what is the best install for a old laptop, Ubunutu or Xubuntu
[08:53] <Dragonfyre13> hang on then. fwtest
[08:53] <Ignite_> erUSUL, you don't understand, i can do anything i want with the files as sudo, but without sudo i can't even see the permissions
[08:53] <Zoba> zHack probably xubuntu
[08:54] <fwtest> hang on?
[08:54] <canihojr> hi
[08:54] <juztin> Eazy-, ok i screwed up something...now my key between d and g doesn't work (i can't type it to tell you), as well as my carriage return
[08:54] <canihojr> any people can help me whit x11vnc?? :(
[08:54] <zHack> thats what i was thinking, what about the alternate install?
[08:54] <Dragonfyre13> fwtest, cpudyn
[08:55] <fwtest> which should i install so that i have build directory in /lib/modules/2.6.* ?
[08:55] <Dragonfyre13> I have a question about my ethernet, if someone can help. I think my port is only running at 10 mbps, and it is a gigabit ethernet card. I really just want to bump it to 100 mbps...
[08:55] <fwtest> i have problem compiling something, which ubuntu cant find
[08:55] <d2812> Ignite: sorry to butt in, but what is the permissions of the parent folder?
[08:55] <fwtest> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[08:55] <erUSUL> Ignite_: yes i understand you... but i do not know why is that the case if the owner of the files and folder is oliver he should be able to do everything he wants to. is Music in a separate partition?
[08:55] <juztin> gonna restart
[08:55] <sponix> is there an easy way to switch over from gdm to kdm, or another like xdm ?
[08:55] <zHack> what does the alternate install do? is it better for an older computer with less ram?
[08:56] <Dragonfyre13> fwtest, grab the headers for your current kernel version.
[08:56] <fwtest> Dragonfyre13, cpudyn or powernowd is better?
[08:56] <Eazy-> juztin: as you dont yet have it in any autostart it will be as it were if you reboot/logout login
[08:56] <Dragonfyre13> fwtest, I hear powernowd has some problems.
[08:56] <fwtest> Dragonfyre13, i installed linux-headers-2.6.15-23 and kernel-headers-2.4.27-2, but it doesnt fix the problem
[08:56] <Eazy-> then you perhaps need to do it all over again :/
[08:57] <Dragonfyre13> create a symlink to the folders for them in /usr/src
[08:57] <Dragonfyre13> call the symlink "linux"
[08:57] <Dragonfyre13> g2g guys, sorry.
[08:57] <fwtest> brb, italy vs german is started ;)
[08:58] <Ares> Lol.
[08:59] <notos> hi what drivers do i need to install for a  NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] 
[08:59] <erUSUL> Ignite_: Music in a  separate partition? i mean is Music the mount point of the partition the files are?
[08:59] <juztin> Eazy-, i think i'm just gonna forget i have those keys lol
[08:59] <juztin> Does anyone know where the config file is for the gnome panels?
[08:59] <Ignite_> erUSUL, sorry was asking in ##linux
[09:00] <Ignite_> my /home is on hdb1 and / on hda1
[09:00] <cntb> germany vs Italy
[09:00] <Ares> lol
[09:01] <Ignite_> erUSUL, i have it sorted now, i needed to chmod +x the directory :)
[09:01] <Ignite_> thanks for all your help
[09:02] <kristian> Hatred, you here?
[09:02] <erUSUL> Ignite_: dohhh!!!! :S
[09:02] <Eazy-> juztin: think it will work if you do it right
[09:03] <zHack> cna anyone give me an idea why my download speeds are so slow?
[09:03] <zHack> i run a cable moden
[09:03] <erUSUL> Ignite_: well i've been of little help... :(
[09:03] <zHack> modem*
[09:03] <Ignite_> erUSUL, yeah :)
[09:03] <Ignite_> i owe you one for all the time you spent helping ;)
[09:04] <juztin> Eazy-, i'm gonna do some more research on it....maybe i'll even give kde a shot
[09:04] <zHack> Does anyone have any idea as to why my download speeds are really really slow?
[09:04] <juztin> Eazy-, never actually tried kde...i just never used it cuz i heard it was way slower than gnome
[09:04] <Jowi> zHack: "sudo ethtool eth0" and see what Speed and Duplex say
[09:04] <Eazy-> juztin: for me Gnome is slower than KDE
[09:04] <zHack> well this really isnt a linux think im running windows
[09:05] <juztin> whats the easiest way to install kde?
[09:05] <zHack> trying to download xubunutu
[09:05] <Eazy-> through Synaptic
[09:05] <Jowi> zHack: then you should ask in #windows or ask your ISP
[09:05] <affan> Hi all, I have already installed Java SDK on my Xubuntu 6.06. but cant access the plugin through the browser. I thought it installs the plugin on install? How do i configure it? thanks!
[09:05] <dash`> I broke something
[09:05] <Jowi> zHack: ...or try a different download mirror for xubuntu
[09:05] <dash`> sudo: apt-get: command not found
[09:05] <MetaMorfoziS> can i calculate md5sum from a directory
[09:06] <zHack> Jowi: it isnt hust xubuntu its also bit torrent
[09:06] <MetaMorfoziS> can i calculate md5sum from a directory?
[09:06] <Jowi> zHack: then my first advice still holds :)
[09:06] <dash`> sudo: apt-get: command not found
[09:06] <Fatal`> how do i run a script like script.sh
[09:07] <dash`> I think thats bad
[09:07] <zHack> Jowi:ok thanks
[09:07] <MetaMorfoziS> sh script.sg
[09:07] <ACEa> what is the status of the libavcodec-dev package? I only get compilation errors when I try to use it
[09:07] <MetaMorfoziS> can i calculate md5sum from a directory?
[09:07] <FunnyLookinHat> MetaMorfoziS, I don't think so
[09:07] <Ares> How would you revert soemthing you just did in Terminal, or is that not allowed?
[09:07] <FunnyLookinHat> MetaMorfoziS, only if you threw the entire directory into a tar.gz file or something
[09:07] <affan> dash`: remove the : after sudo
[09:07] <MetaMorfoziS> ok, so how can i calculate md5sum from a directory?
[09:07] <FunnyLookinHat> MetaMorfoziS, no, I'm saying that you cannot.
[09:08] <dash`> affan, that is just the error it gives
[09:08] <MetaMorfoziS> i think it calculates all files md5sum
[09:08] <juztin> Eazy-, which one in synaptic?  there are many of them...
[09:08] <MetaMorfoziS> and i get one md5sum from a bigbig directory
[09:08] <dash`> I tried "sudo apt-get update", and that was the lesult
[09:08] <MetaMorfoziS> that i write to dvd, and i can check
[09:08] <affan> dash`: oh
[09:08] <MetaMorfoziS> it's correct?
[09:08] <FunnyLookinHat> Oh , then I have no idea
[09:08] <MetaMorfoziS> or any way to check a writed dvd is correct?
[09:09] <sja> juztin-> install kubuntu-desktop from synaptic
[09:09] <juztin> sja, thx :)
[09:10] <Ares> Does anyone know what the Green and Blue text in Terminal represents? =|
[09:10] <juztin> holy crap, 339mb?!
[09:10] <matti> Ares: Where?
[09:10] <Jowi> Ares: blue = directories. green = executables
[09:10] <Jowi> Ares: light-blue = links
[09:10] <MetaMorfoziS> is there way to check a writed dvd is correct?
[09:10] <Ares> jowi: Thanks, know how to revert or undo a command then?
[09:11] <Jowi> Ares: undo what? you can not undelete files.
[09:11] <Ares> Jowi: I don't want to, I just want to untar a file.
[09:11] <Fatal`> how about running a .run file
[09:11] <Jowi> Ares: tar or tar.gz?
[09:11] <Fatal`> going to try to update my ATI drivers
[09:11] <Ares> Jowi: .tar
[09:12] <juztin> tar xvfz file.tar
[09:12] <Ares> Juztin: That would undo a tar that I just did?
[09:12] <Jowi> Ares: tar zvf file.tar
[09:12] <juztin> oh
[09:12] <dash`> how does one "recover" certain commands?
[09:12] <erUSUL> Fatal`: chmod + x *.run; ./*.run
[09:12] <Eazy-> juztin: sorry, was away for a while...but you allready got the answer :)
[09:12] <juztin> Ares, you want to re-archive it?
[09:12] <juztin> Eazy-, np :D
[09:12] <Flamekebab> Thanks for the ban. I wasn't even advertising!
[09:12] <Jowi> Ares: you can not _undo_ an already extracted file. only delete the directory and files it unpacked
[09:13] <juztin> Eazy-, if i don't like it, i can remove it, right?
[09:13] <Ares> Juztin: I just "unzipped" a tar in the wrong location.
[09:13] <erUSUL> dash`: from bash history? up arrow (Crtl+r to search backwards in history very handy)
[09:13] <Eazy-> juztin: yes
[09:13] <Flamekebab> I was trying to make sure none of you bought from the same useless company I tried to buy from
[09:13] <dash`> I apparently removed something
[09:13] <Eazy-> but you will ;)
[09:13] <juztin> Ares, oh ok...not sure on that one, sorry :P
[09:13] <MetaMorfoziS> is there way to check a writed dvd is correct?
[09:13] <dash`> so now I have no apt-get or man commands
[09:13] <Fatal`> that isn't outputting anything erUSUL
[09:13] <juztin> Eazy-, is it as configurable as far as looks go as gnome?
[09:14] <Ares> Jowi: How do you use -rm and what is in your ~/.mozilla/firefox/ directory? [ So I can just revert it all] 
[09:14] <MetaMorfoziS> and what is finalize in the writing?
[09:14] <erUSUL> Ares: if you want to gzip it go ahead gzip *.tar
[09:14] <Phoul> Hello. Im wondering if its safe to install a breezy cd and dist upgrade to dapper
[09:14] <erUSUL> Fatal`: chmod +x *.run; ./*.run
[09:14] <Eazy-> juztin: yepp
[09:14] <Jowi> Ares: read up about basic commands. hang on, i tell ubotu to give you the link
[09:14] <Jowi> ubotu: tell Ares about commands
[09:14] <erUSUL> !commands
[09:14] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:15] <Flamekebab> Consty, you still here?
[09:15] <Eazy-> or even better
[09:15] <Ares> Jowi and erUSUL: Thanks, know about the ~/mozilla/firefox/ folder though?
[09:15] <Jowi> Ares: the .mozilla/firefox contain your firefox settings like some plugins, bookmarks, user preferences aso
[09:15] <Fatal`> ewps, says i need to run this as super user
[09:15] <Fatal`> but the command is working now
[09:16] <Ares> Jowi: I know, but I put a bunch of extra stuff in there and don't know what was the "default"
[09:16] <Jowi> Ares: the most important directory in it is somewierdnumber.default
[09:16] <erUSUL> Ares: you want to delete the directory?
[09:16] <Eazy-> juztin: you can pick gnome or kde to use in gdm
[09:16] <Fatal`> how do i run a file as a super user?  sudo command doesn't work
[09:16] <Ares> erUSUL: No, just the things I just untarred in that directory.
[09:16] <Phoul> !java
[09:16] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:17] <Phoul> does blackdown work with ubuntu?
[09:17] <juztin> Eazy-, i know...i just wanted to make sure that i could remove it, as the package is like 400mb lol
[09:17] <juztin> Phoul, yup
[09:17] <Jowi> Ares: copy the vlx667667.default (or whatever it is called) directory and profiles.ini. that's basicly what you want to keep if you plan to delete the whole directory
[09:17] <Cybo-Mobile> howdy, running ubuntu, can't ssh IN from a server, I can ssh out from server to a debian box. firstarter is stoped.  Any ideas?
[09:18] <erUSUL> Ares: rm -r ~/.mozilla/firefox/dir_you_want_to_delete (be careful with rm -r it is dangerous and files rm'ed can not be recovered).
[09:18] <toxygen> hi
[09:18] <toxygen> where can i download ubuntu live cd?
[09:18] <Jowi> Ares: vlxblablah.default will have a different name for us all, so you need to see for yourself which one you want to keep.
[09:18] <Cybo-Mobile> ubuntu.com
[09:18] <erUSUL> Ares: maybe is better to do it graphically run 'nautilus ~/.mozilla/firefox/'
[09:18] <Eazy-> juztin: yep, just uninstall everything with the name kde in synaptic if you dont like it....but give it some time....think your gonna like it
[09:19] <toxygen> Cybo-Mobile: specific link? i've looked for live cd there and couldn't find it
[09:19] <Cybo-Mobile> toxygen on min
[09:19] <Ares> erUSUL: Thanks =)
[09:19] <juztin> Eazy-, alright...thanks for your help :)
[09:19] <Jowi> Cybo-Mobile: yes, that is normal. ssh user@127.0.0.1 won't work.
[09:19] <Eazy-> np :)
[09:19] <Cybo-Mobile> one min-on
[09:19] <MetaMorfoziS> is there way to check a writed dvd is correct?
[09:20] <Jowi> Cybo-Mobile: ooops, sorry. it should work
[09:20] <speedy> hi
[09:20] <Cybo-Mobile> toxygen, iirc NOW ubuntu is both live and install, same cd
[09:20] <speedy> a question
[09:20] <Cybo-Mobile> jowi that is what I though
[09:20] <Jowi> Cybo-Mobile: I forgot I had changed my port
[09:20] <sja> juztin-> easiest way to uninstall is to uninstall kubuntu-desktop ... either via synaptic or "sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop"
[09:20] <dash`> any suggestions on how te fix my lack of commands like apt-get ?
[09:20] <juztin> sja, cool, thanks :)
[09:20] <Cybo-Mobile> but it just hangs (the server I am running ssh from)
[09:20] <speedy> can ai download files wive the live cd and save to a extern hd
[09:20] <Jowi> Cybo-Mobile: try to "ssh user@127.0.0.1 -p 22"
[09:21] <Cybo-Mobile> jowi, k
[09:21] <signature16> When I "postfix reload" it says: Permission Denied. How do I fix that?
[09:21] <toxygen> Cybo-Mobile: is it ordinary install cd?
[09:21] <sja> dash-> so a "ls /usr/bin/apt-get" to see if it's really there or not
[09:21] <Cybo-Mobile> Jowi, still just hangs
[09:21] <Fatal`> is the ATI driver install from ATI's website the same thing as fglrx?
[09:22] <toxygen> ok thx
[09:22] <speedy> spricht jemand deutsch
[09:22] <dash`> it is not
[09:22] <Jowi> Cybo-Mobile: and I guess a restart of the server does not help?
[09:22] <Cybo-Mobile> I will try
[09:22] <sja> dash-> then you're up the creek ... looks like you deleted stuff you shouldn't have (sudo can be VERY dangerous)
[09:23] <dash`> can I get it off the CD or something?
[09:23] <Cybo-Mobile> Jowi, what server do you recommend I restart?
[09:23] <Jowi> Cybo-Mobile: you can also try to add (without the quotes) "sshd: ALL" to /etc/hosts.allow
[09:23] <Cybo-Mobile> ping!  I will bet that is the ticket
[09:24] <Jowi> Cybo-Mobile: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[09:24] <Cybo-Mobile> ssh is NOT in init.d
[09:25] <Jowi> Cybo-Mobile: and you are sure you installed openssh-server ?
[09:25] <sja> dash-> who knows what all you're missing -- I'd reinstall from scratch if it were me
[09:25] <Cybo-Mobile> Jowi, well, I can ssh OUT
[09:25] <Jowi> Cybo-Mobile: when you connects out, you use the client.
[09:25] <Jowi> not the server
[09:25] <Cybo-Mobile> Jowi, so that would be no, I am not sure
[09:25] <ompaul> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2016 2006-05-18 01:43 /etc/init.d/ssh
[09:25] <Jowi> Cybo-Mobile: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[09:26] <Cybo-Mobile> jowi, on it
[09:26] <dash`> I figured if I had apt-get at least, I could reinstall what I needed
[09:26] <kristian> Hatred, you here?
[09:26] <derek> Guys,, I just installed Ubuntu and sound isnt working...why? It worked fine on windowz
[09:26] <Cybo-Mobile> dash`, how can you NOT have apt-get
[09:26] <dash`> not quite sure on that
[09:26] <L1> Are video drivers compatable across distributions?  Knoppix works, but Ubuntu Dapper video display is shakley and distorted at resolutions above 1024x768.
[09:27] <Cybo-Mobile> dash`, dpkg -l apt
[09:27] <sja> dash-> try one more time -- "ls /usr/bin/apt-get -al' ... make SURE it's missing
[09:27] <juztin> can someone help me on this? every time i log out of gnome, my screen either goes all black and nothing happens (i can't even switch to another tty), or it goes all white, with a faint box where i can login at (in which case, switch to tty1 makes crazy colored lines go all over my screen)
[09:27] <ompaul> derek, audio is not a great thing - have you no audio "start up drums" as the logon screen appears?
[09:28] <dash`> Cybo-Mobile,: what should that tell me?
[09:28] <ideogram> firefox is slower on Ubuntu than Windows XP.  Why is that?
[09:28] <L1> Problems appears related to Trident Cyberblade video board.  Where to find dirvers?
[09:28] <sphygmos> hey.. can anyone recommend a really good book on project management or leadership in a technology firm?
[09:28] <Cybo-Mobile> dash`, 0.6.43.3ubuntu Advanced front-end for dpkg
[09:28] <sja> ideogram-> turn off ipv6 in firefox and try it again
[09:28] <juztin> L1, check out fasterfox
[09:28] <dash`> k, mine said something similar
[09:29] <Cybo-Mobile> dash`, "sudo apt-get update"
[09:29] <dang`r`us> hi there
[09:29] <kristian> What do I need to watch films at www.metacafe.com ?
[09:29] <ideogram> where is ipv6?
[09:29] <L1> juztin, fasterfox?
[09:29] <Cybo-Mobile> kristian, a web access?
[09:29] <dash`> still not found
[09:29] <marsu_> hello
[09:29] <dang`r`us> what's the reason that linux-image-686 is 2.6.15-23, but there is also a linux-image-2.6.15-25, i.e. a newer one?
[09:29] <juztin> L1, yeah, i just found it yesterday....its firefox, but faster..optimized for linux
[09:29] <Cybo-Mobile> dash`, what do you mean "not found"
[09:29] <Ares> Vi scares me.
[09:29] <kristian> cybo-mobile, :) Yes, and I... im not sure if i have... weelll...
[09:29] <juztin> vi rox
[09:30] <Ares> It may rock, but it still scares me.
[09:30] <Ares> =)
[09:30] <juztin> lol
[09:30] <dash`> Cybo-Mobile :: http://pastebin.arslinux.com/3463
[09:30] <ompaul> sphygmos, that can be approached at many levels, I suggest you remember two things, it is all about people, if they don't like you or it, it won't get done, and second I would search amazon and go by ratings; however that subject is well off topic for here - the ubuntu support channel, you can ask in #ubuntu-offtopic and see if anyone bytes :)
[09:30] <sja> ideogram-> in the address bar of firefox, type "about:config" ... then scroll down to the network section ... find the reference to ipv6, then double click the line to disable it
[09:31] <Cybo-Mobile> dash`, what did you do?
[09:31] <dash`> I have no idea
[09:31] <Cybo-Mobile> dash`, how did this come about?
[09:31] <sja> dash-> if apt-get really isn't there, who knows what else is missing -- reinstall
[09:31] <Kibou> anyone have a theme called clearlooks-graphite?
[09:31] <dash`> k :\
[09:31] <Cybo-Mobile> dash`, you must be running fc5
[09:31] <kristian> What programz do i need to look at films at metacafe?
[09:32] <dash`> its Ubuntu 5.10
[09:32] <L1> juztin, is fasterfox a display driver for a Trident Cyberblade video card?
[09:32] <Cybo-Mobile> dash`, apt is a core part of ALL debian, if it is gone do what the other guys said, re-install
[09:32] <dash`> k
[09:32] <Cybo-Mobile> dash`, you, or someone ripped out the core of your os
[09:32] <juztin> L1, uh, no....its..um....did i say that to the wrong person?  fasterfox is a web browser
[09:32] <dash`> probably me :P
[09:32] <Cybo-Mobile> dash`, do you have any gui at all?
[09:32] <juztin> lol i did...i meant that for ideogram
[09:32] <dash`> yes
[09:32] <juztin> ideogram, check out fasterfox
[09:33] <Patrick_> does anyone know anything about cygwin?
[09:33] <sja> Patrick-> some -- what's your question?
[09:33] <Cybo-Mobile> dash`, you could fix it the hard painfull way, install cd, use dpkg manualy to install one piece at a time
[09:33] <juztin> ack
[09:33] <juztin> and it's not fasterfox
[09:33] <dash`> I dislike hard painful things :P
[09:33] <juztin> its swiftfox, my bad
[09:33] <ideogram> there is no mention of ipv6 on the page
[09:33] <juztin> ideogram, check out swiftfox lol
[09:33] <Cybo-Mobile> dash`, you sound like my wife
[09:33] <dang`r`us> Patrick_, I've been using it ...
[09:33] <Patrick_> sja, apparently the 'make' command is not found, how would I get it on there? there is no sudo apt-get build essential, so its much much harder lol
[09:34] <thoron_> Hi! I just got Ubuntu 6.06 CD by mail. Unfornately it seems that it doesn't work with my ATI Radeon 9250. Screen seems to say black and my monitor power LED blinks as there is something wrong with picture. Is this known problem?
[09:34] <juztin> swiftfox with the fasterfox extension is way faster than regular firefox for ubuntu
[09:34] <juztin> tbh
[09:34] <Cybo-Mobile> thoron_ simple fix, go get a live cd, copy the xorg.conf and install it in ubuntu
[09:34] <sja> ideogram-> yes there is ... the line is "network.dns.disableIPv6"  (I'm assuming your using Firefox 1.5x)
[09:35] <Stardog> anyone here good in wine and wow?
[09:35] <thoron_> I should have tested the beta release.
[09:35] <ShadowLurker> i have a question
[09:36] <xeph> I just got my Ubuntu 6.06 cd in the mail and I can't seem to use it to upgrade from Breezy. Help!?
[09:36] <sja> Patrick-> never tried to use make from cygwin ... just used the pc version of it ...
[09:36] <ShadowLurker> is there any FTP program or something i can run to FTP to my site?
[09:36] <crocd> what kernel is the best to us e for amd64 system. I am running the generic one at the moment?
[09:36] <ideogram> version 1.5.0.4
[09:36] <ShadowLurker> or can somone tell me ho to send something to my Desktop to my Server
[09:36] <twa1296> thoron_: should be fine, i have a R9250 too, do as Cybo says...
[09:36] <sja> Patrick-> out of curiosity, are you trying to compile a linux program on a PC via cygwin?
[09:36] <Ares> What is the kill all command, specifically to kill Firefox?
[09:37] <Ares> I would look, but I can't.
[09:37] <ideogram> oh it was a case sensitive search
[09:37] <Stardog> anyone here good in wine and wow?
[09:37] <juztin> Ares, killall kills all processes with a certain name...like killall firefox will kill all firefoxes
[09:37] <FunnyLookinHat> Ares, killall firefox
[09:37] <ideogram> so what was it doing, trying to use ipv6 first?
[09:37] <Ares> God dammit.
[09:37] <Skymaker> arrr
[09:37] <Ares> Firefox still won't start.
[09:37] <ompaul> Stardog, please wait 15 minutes beteen asking
[09:38] <Patrick_> sja, apparently the 'make' command is not found, how would I get it on there? there is no sudo apt-get build essential, so its much much harder lol
[09:38] <thoron_> twa1296, is there fixed CD available?
[09:38] <ShadowLurker> Guys, I need to upload a folder with FTP.  Can someone tell me how to send something through FTP?
[09:38] <ShadowLurker> it is on my desktop
[09:38] <aztracker1> have another question.. re: dialup under ubuntu.. is anyone familiar with the error "LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests"
[09:38] <ideogram> did you read man ftp?
[09:38] <ubuntu_> org
[09:38] <jon_> anyone know where i can find "grub.conf" on my system, search turned up nothing
[09:38] <ShadowLurker> i can figure out where the local folder is
[09:38] <juztin> wtf is dialup?
[09:38] <juztin> :P
[09:38] <sja> ideogram-> many home type modems/routers don't support ipv6 ... so, if enabled, it tries, and tries, and tries and finally defaults to ipv4
[09:38] <Cybo-Mobile> juztin that is how you get chinese food
[09:38] <ShadowLurker> !ftp
  FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[09:38] <Ares> jon: I think Ubuntu uses menu.lst
[09:39] <juztin> lol Cybo-Mobile
[09:39] <rpedro> Stardog: try /j #winehq
[09:39] <aztracker1> juztin, it's for a client.. hell I'm getting him off of windows.. he only uses email and browsing..
[09:39] <jon_> thanks Ares
[09:39] <ideogram> yeah I knew I didn't have ipv6, just didn't realize firefox would keep trying it by default
[09:39] <sja> ideogram-> if that works for you and you use Thunderbird, turn off ipv6 in Thunderbird
[09:39] <ShadowLurker> ideogram, what?
[09:39] <ideogram> I don't use thunderbird
[09:39] <ideogram> shadowlurker do you know how to get a terminal window?
[09:39] <ideogram> I use gmail
[09:39] <ShadowLurker> ideogram, i cant find where the file is on the local server
[09:40] <twa1296> thoron_: your monitor led blinks and the screen doesn't go on? why do you think that this is a radeon issue?
[09:40] <ShadowLurker> ideogram, yes, and i can connect to my server
[09:40] <ideogram> you can't find the file?
[09:40] <rpedro> !appdb > Stardog
[09:40] <sja> ideogram-> I use gmail too -- as a pop server -- and use Thunderbird as my client
[09:40] <ShadowLurker> ideogram, it says local-file: and i dont know where it is
[09:40] <ideogram> is there a search function on ubuntu?
[09:40] <ShadowLurker> it is on my desktop
[09:40] <Stardog> rpedro: k thx
[09:40] <ShadowLurker> ideogram, but i dont know what to put there
[09:40] <ideogram> can't you browse for it?
[09:40] <j1p> has anyone in here built songbird for ubuntu successfully?
[09:40] <sja> ideogram-> search for text in files or for files?
[09:40] <ShadowLurker> ideogram, no, that is with a program
[09:40] <ShadowLurker> ideogram, i couldnt find any linux ftp programs
[09:41] <ideogram> I had problems with Thunderbird the last time I used it
[09:41] <thoron_> twa1296, I googled around little bit and debian unstable X is also broken. OpenGL modules jams the system exactly same way.
[09:41] <ShadowLurker> ideogram, i am using command line on linux
[09:41] <ideogram> yeah, ftp on the command line should work for you
[09:41] <ideogram> how do you normally get to the file
[09:41] <hou5ton> Can someone help me with making sound work on xfce ... it works on Gnome. ??
[09:41] <ShadowLurker> ideogram, it is on my desktop
[09:41] <ideogram> I have no problems with Gmail's user interface
[09:41] <Jowi> ShadowLurker: if it is on your desktop it is in /home/username/Desktop
[09:41] <ompaul> ShadowLurker, tar cvf word.tar /path/to/directory << then >> ftp wherever.whatever ; username; password; cd /path/to/put/file ; lcd /path/to/tar; put file.tar ; then ssh into the box and cd to location and do this: tar xvf file.tar and the directory will unfold before your very eyes - print that and do it
[09:41] <sja> ShadowLurker -> open a terminal and type "ftp"
[09:41] <ShadowLurker> jowi: thanks
[09:41] <twa1296> thoron_: did you manage to install? when does the screen go blank?
[09:41] <ShadowLurker> sja: i know
[09:41] <ShadowLurker> jowi: that was my problem
[09:41] <auge02> also can used mc
[09:41] <ShadowLurker> jowi: thank you so much
[09:41] <ideogram> I like being able to access my email from any host and any OS
[09:42] <ideogram> I have several computers and dual boot WinXP and Ubuntu
[09:42] <james__> would anyone in here be up to walking me through setting up a dell truemobile 1470 wireless card (broadcom chipset) to work, with or without ndiswrapper?
[09:42] <Juju> Does anyone know if this is a valid permission?    ?-w-rwSrwT
[09:43] <Stardog> after installing wine, copying all files (overwriting when prompted), and trying to run the installer.exe file, i get the errormsg, not enough space on my hardrive.....
[09:43] <Juju> I installed Xubuntu yesterday on a friend's PC, and it was working, but now it gets permioosion denied on practially everything
[09:43] <james__> i has the driver installed in ndiswrapper, and it recognizes the card, but i am stuck
[09:43] <james__> it*
[09:43] <thoron_> twa1296, there is this ubuntu logo on screen and below that rolls those messages on loading modules. It goes dark after loading something like LVM or Enterprise Volume Management anyway stuff that obvious comes last and then I guess Ubuntu 6.06 install tries to start X?
[09:43] <Stardog> sry wrong room
[09:44] <ShadowLurker> jowi: where was it?
[09:44] <twa1296> thoron_: and do you get a command line after that?
[09:44] <ShadowLurker> jowi: i forgot
[09:44] <ShadowLurker> jowi, what is the directory it should be in again?
[09:44] <MetaMorfoziS> is there way to check a writed dvd is correct?
[09:45] <thoron_> twa1296, no, debian unstable jamms exactly same way, system is totally unresponsive, no way to get console even with ctrl-alt-f1
[09:45] <Patrick_> on cygwin, apparently the 'make' command is not found, how would I get it on there? there is no sudo apt-get build essential, so its much much harder lol
[09:45] <twa1296> thoron_: ah i see, sorry was trying to understand your problem
[09:45] <ShadowLurker> jowi!!!
[09:45] <ideogram> cygwin has an installer gui that should list make among programmer tools
[09:45] <ShadowLurker> jowi...where are you?
[09:45] <twa1296> thoron_: boot in recovery mode into a command line, change your xorg.conf from there
[09:45] <ShadowLurker> come out, come out, wherever you are
[09:45] <Jowi> ShadowLurker: /home/username/Desktop
[09:46] <ShadowLurker> thanks
[09:47] <aaron_> Hey guys, my java isn't @ /usr/bin/java or w/e how can I find where I have it installed?
[09:47] <sja> Patrick-> check www.cygwin.com -- many packages aren't installed by default
[09:47] <wesleywillians> hi folks
[09:47] <wesleywillians> i have a problem here
[09:47] <Ares> Ok ok, last question, how do I give everything in a specific folder and sub-folders read/write access?
[09:47] <ShadowLurker> Jowi: please go to #UbuntuPalace
[09:47] <sja> aaron-> Sun's java?
[09:47] <aaron_> yes sja
[09:48] <wesleywillians> i have a notebook HP livestrong (l2005). i am trying to use the projector to show a presentation, but the ubuntu does not reconeize my video boad on projector.
[09:48] <wesleywillians> can u help me?
[09:48] <Cybo-Mobile> I am still unable to conect to this box via ssh from other boxes, but vis-versa is good
[09:49] <sja> aaron-> if you installed it for Dapper via the repository, it's likely in /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun
[09:49] <ShadowLurker> Jowi, I sent you an IM here, please look at it
[09:49] <epod> Hi, I'm having a weird apache issue.  If I go to www.blah.ca, www.fooblah.ca or www.blahfoo.ca, the correct page loads, but if I go to just blahfoo.ca, or fooblah.ca, I get blah.ca's page.  Can anyone tell me what I have wrong in my vhost setup perhaps?
[09:50] <aaron_> sja, no file or dir there. Isn't there a command you can use that will show the ver, location and everyhting
[09:50] <Cybo-Mobile> is there a way I can drop all firewall via the cli?
[09:50] <ShadowLurker> can someone help me?
[09:50] <ShadowLurker> i can put regular files onto my server via ftp
[09:50] <ShadowLurker> but not folders
[09:50] <_absolution_> I'm currently downloading an iso image of another distro.....where will that file be stored??
[09:50] <ShadowLurker> how can i upload folders?
[09:50] <_absolution_> in the archive manager?
[09:51] <wdh> _absolution_, whereever you are downloading it to..
[09:51] <sja> aaron-> in a terminal, type "java -version" and see what it says
[09:51] <Cybo-Mobile> _absolution_, where did you tell it to, are you running windows?
[09:51] <_absolution_> no
[09:51] <aaron_> java command not found
[09:51] <sja> aaron -> then you can look in /etc/alternatives and see where java is linked to
[09:51] <_absolution_> "save to disk"
[09:51] <ideogram> shadowlurker you need to use tar
[09:51] <wdh> _absolution_, take a look on your desktop then :)
[09:52] <ideogram> type man tar
[09:52] <blocky> can someone tell me how to search in vi
[09:52] <Cybo-Mobile> _absolution_, it is saved where ever your defualt location is, what app, check it out.
[09:52] <sja> aaron-> you should also be able to type "which java" and have it return you its location
[09:52] <linux_user400354> is there a ubuntu wiki guide for gmailfs? i searched for one and did not find it.
[09:52] <Cybo-Mobile> _absolution_, sounds like a windows help desk question, are you sure you are not running windows?
[09:52] <ShadowLurker> ideogram: what do u mean tar?
[09:52] <aaron_> sja, it returned nothing
[09:52] <_absolution_> no I'm running ubuntu
[09:52] <sja> blocky-> hit esc, then type /<what you are searching for>
[09:52] <aaron_> maybe I messed up on the install
[09:53] <ideogram> tar is the command that packages up a directory tree as a file so you can ftp it
[09:53] <sja> aaron-> then you don't have java installed
[09:53] <Jowi> ShadowLurker: easiest way is to use gftp. a graphical interface for ftp similar to wsftp on windows. you can't go wrong there. you will see exactly where the files go and it is just as easy to download folders.
[09:53] <aaron_> ok sja, thanks
[09:53] <Cybo-Mobile> _absolution_, ok I will bite, "How" are you donwloading this iso
[09:53] <ideogram> or you could use the gui
[09:53] <blocky> sja, thanks - is that case sensitive?
[09:53] <ideogram> that's probably your best bet
[09:53] <ShadowLurker> lol, help
[09:53] <_absolution_> what do you mean?
[09:53] <ShadowLurker> which one?
[09:53] <_absolution_> http?
[09:53] <ShadowLurker> and where can i get it?
[09:53] <Cybo-Mobile> _absolution_, what app?
[09:53] <ideogram> jowi mentioned gftp
[09:53] <wdh> _absolution_, with firefox probably?
[09:53] <Jowi> ShadowLurker: sudo apt-get install gftp
[09:53] <stelki> _absolution_: what program are you using to download?
[09:53] <ideogram> I haven't used it myself, but you could give it a try
[09:53] <_absolution_> yeah
[09:53] <_absolution_> firefox
[09:53] <ShadowLurker> thanks
[09:53] <sja> blocky -> yes .... also that will only find the first occurence ... to find others, hit n
[09:54] <stelki> _absolution_: the default place to download files is the desktop of yours
[09:54] <_absolution_> so it won't automatically install?
[09:54] <stelki> No, how did you get ubuntu installed? :)
[09:54] <Al2O3> well, sadly I'm installing Windows 2000 instead of ubuntu or mandriva :(  Its just Bill Gates up my butt again.
[09:54] <_absolution_> lol....I never downloaded an iso file before
[09:54] <Al2O3> thanks for your help guys, linux just isn't up to the task of out-of-box end user experience yet, almost, but not quite.
[09:55] <stelki> FIlthy lies
[09:55] <_absolution_> on a cdrom
[09:55] <ShadowLurker> how do i run gftp
[09:55] <sja> Al204-> maybe not for you, but for me it is ... dumped Win a couple of years ago
[09:55] <ShadowLurker> g2g so quick
[09:55] <ShadowLurker> plz
[09:55] <aaron_> sja, one last q. What is the best way to install jre 1.5?
[09:55] <Subhuman_> is there much difference between a debian server install and a ubuntu one?
[09:55] <bvali> Alt+F2
[09:55] <bvali> write gftp
[09:55] <bvali> ShadowLurker
[09:56] <ShadowLurker> thanks
[09:56] <ShadowLurker> bye
[09:56] <Cybo-Mobile> _absolution_, I deal with system admin who don't know how to burn ISO
[09:57] <Ropechoborra> I mounted an ntfs partition on /mnt, wich is the command to change its privileges so i can read, execute and write it ??
[09:57] <Cybo-Mobile> _absolution_, look under preferences for firefox, download that will tell you the dir your ISO is downloaded to
[09:57] <sja> aaron-> from synaptic, get sun-j2re1.5
[09:59] <_absolution_> oh ok...thanks
[09:59] <softwork> ola mundo!
[09:59] <bvali> Ropechoborra: you need to mount the partition in rw mode. Usually it's mounted in ro, and NTFS in linux is rather unstable in write mode.
[09:59] <bvali> but generally you must specify the umask when mounting
[09:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra:  Nooooooooo
[10:00] <Fitzsimmons> is there a known problem booting ubuntu server with / on raid?
[10:00] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow:  SIIIIIIIIIIIIII
[10:00] <bvali> :)
[10:00] <Ropechoborra> xD
[10:00] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow:  ke hace aka mano?? =P
[10:00] <Fitzsimmons> software raid that is
[10:00] <Cybo-Mobile> I sill need help ssh into ubuntu, debian and rhel both work in and out, but ubuntu only works out
[10:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra:  If you need it is much better to set up a fat32 to share between or set ntfs as read only
[10:01] <bvali> I agree with Jack_Sparrow
[10:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra: No bueno por nada...
[10:01] <Ropechoborra> jajaja
[10:01] <Ropechoborra> veni al pv
[10:01] <fowlduck>  /join #ubuntu-es
[10:02] <aaron_> aja, done, but I still get nothing from java --version or which java
[10:02] <aaron_> I did  sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[10:02] <xeph> Help! I just got my Ubuntu 6.06 from ShipIt today and I can't upgrade from Breezy. How do I go about doing so?
[10:03] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow:  wich would be the comand so i can have access to the drive ?
[10:03] <HowardTheDuck> Is it possible to rdp into ubuntu from windows?
[10:03] <sja> aaron-> that's the JRE (run time java) so I don't think "java -version" will work  ....
[10:03] <Jack_Sparrow> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[10:03] <Patrick_> sja, apparently the 'make' command is not found, how would I get it on there? there is no sudo apt-get build essential, so its much much harder lol
[10:03] <Ropechoborra> Thankx
[10:04] <Patrick_> sja, this is on cygwin
[10:04] <sja> aaron-> not positive, tho, I'm never just installed the JRE, just the JDK/SDK
[10:04] <Patrick_> sja, I asked it about, 10 mins ago or so.
[10:04] <sja> Patrick-> check www.cygwin.com -- many packages aren't installed by default
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Run that script.. It will enable NTFS writes if you insist.. Still Not recomended by my.. Use at your own riskk.
[10:04] <nsahoo> hi
[10:04] <Chetic> How do I set one folder, with all the files and subdirectories in it, to let regular users write to it?
[10:04] <aaron_> ok thanks
[10:04] <Patrick_> sja, I have no clue wtf to do lol.
[10:04] <sja> aaron-> try something that uses the JRE, like ... I dunno ... Azureus?
[10:05] <sja> Patick-> the likely answer is to reinstall cygwin and select make as one of the packages ..
[10:05] <nsahoo> i am trying to make a nfs mount happen everytime i boot the comp .. i added the line "nachi:/home/nsahoo /home/nachi  nfs     rw,hard,intr    0 0" to the /etc/fstab .. but, it's not automounting
[10:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Chetic: a folder that you creat ... you can right click and set permissions there
[10:05] <bvali> Chetic: chmod -R 777 directory
[10:05] <Jack_Sparrow> creat
[10:05] <sja> Patrick-> or you could ask in a Windows channel?
[10:05] <bvali> R is recursive
[10:06] <sja> nsahoo -> good help on ubuntu wiki ... you might check that out
[10:06] <dylan_> Why is Ubuntu a non-free distribution by default?
[10:06] <lophyte> it is?
[10:06] <eimajenthat> hi, I seem to remember hearing about a tool like deborphan but better, anyone heard of such a thing?
[10:07] <skybox> hi! If I use clonecd in linux/vmware will it operate just like it does in windows?
[10:07] <lophyte> dylan_: Ubuntu is as free as any other Linux distro
[10:07] <dylan_> lophyte, it has non-free drivers, i hear from RMS
[10:07] <BHSPitLappy> dylan_, why is the sky purple?
[10:07] <dylan_> BHSPitLappy, it is not
[10:07] <lophyte> that's the point :P
[10:07] <BHSPitLappy> there's your answer.
[10:07] <linux_user400354> has anyone got gmailfs to work?
[10:07] <dylan_> BHSPitLappy, oh yeah?  do this:  install "vrms" and run it
[10:08] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow: thanks!! it really helps me :)
[10:08] <lophyte> dylan_: there's a difference between a specific software package, and Ubuntu as a distribution
[10:08] <BHSPitLappy> why should I have to install anything, dylan_ ?
[10:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Not a problem
[10:08] <BHSPitLappy> I thought you were talking about "default"
[10:08] <skybox> clonecd in vmware/wine, same support as in windows?
[10:08] <lucasvo_> anybody have problems with totem? I have this X BadAllog errors
[10:08] <lucasvo_> it's really annoying
[10:08] <dylan_> BHSPitLappy, exactly.  ubuntu is non-free by default.
[10:08] <lophyte> for example, VMware Workstation for Linux is non-free... but that doesn't make Ubuntu non-free.
[10:08] <Jowi> dylan_: ubuntu-offtopic please. this is a support channel
[10:08] <Jowi> # even
[10:09] <nsahoo> sja: i checked that .. it doesn't look like i need anything other than just adding a line to /etc/fstab for static mount
[10:09] <Ropechoborra> f*ck =S still says permission dennied ! =(
[10:09] <Jack_Sparrow> rope.. when you try to write to it?
[10:09] <skybox> is there a way to burn dual layers dvd+r in linux?
[10:09] <Fitzsimmons> how do you install ubuntu onto a / within software raid1?
[10:09] <Ropechoborra> Nop... access
[10:10] <sja> nsahoo-> my nfs mount like in /etc/fstab looks like .... 192.168.1.200:/pub /reardon     nfs     rw,hard,intr    0       0
[10:10] <lophyte> skybox: it should be the same as burning any other dvd/d
[10:10] <lophyte> dvd/cd*
[10:10] <sja> nsahoo-> just make sure the mount point really exists on your machine (in my case, /reardon)
[10:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Rope.. it has worked for dozens of people.. works on my sata
[10:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra:  what is in your fstab
[10:11] <skybox> lophyte, i'm afraid not, I need to have the burner app/frontend to put my burner into bitsetting - dvdrom mode and dual layer modes
[10:11] <Ropechoborra> bash: cd: /media/hda5: Permiso denegado
[10:11] <nsahoo> sja: does it have to be ip address at the start .. not the hostname .. i have the hostname in the /etc/hosts file
[10:11] <skybox> clonecd does this on auto, but i'm wondering if I run clonecd with wine/vmware, will it be the same thing?
[10:11] <lophyte> skybox: ah.. I've never done dual layer burning myself, so I'm not entirely sure.. I just assumed it was the same.
[10:11] <lophyte> !duallayer
[10:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about duallayer
[10:11] <lophyte> aww.
[10:11] <lophyte> !dvd
[10:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Rope, do you see disk icons on your desktop
[10:11] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:11] <linux_user400354> skybox, cdrecord
[10:11] <sja> nsahoo-> if you have the host name in the hosts file, that sould be fine
[10:11] <lophyte> !dvdburning
[10:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about dvdburning
[10:11] <lophyte> meh.
[10:11] <skybox> heh, thanks anyways lophyte
[10:11] <skybox> cdrecord hmm
[10:11] <skybox> checking
[10:12] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow: nop, arent there
[10:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra: after a restart you should see all the partions mounted on your desktop.  Did the script ask any questions?
[10:12] <sja> nsahoo-> I took another look at your fstab line --- get rid of the / before home
[10:12] <skybox> O
[10:12] <Ropechoborra> Yes.. about writing
[10:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra:  how did you run that script
[10:13] <Ropechoborra> Like the help file says
[10:13] <skybox> I'll check it out, just a quickie, If I run clonecd in wine/wmare will it be the same thing?
[10:13] <Consty> does anyone run xmame in dapper?
[10:13] <Ropechoborra> sudo bash diskmounter
[10:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra:  did you restart after running the script... I know it says not to, I am getting that changed
[10:13] <sja> nsahoo-> also, not sure if you can point it multilevel -- never tried
[10:13] <lophyte> skybox: I don't think VMware supports cd/dvd burning
[10:13] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow: no, i didnt...
[10:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Start there
[10:13] <Ropechoborra> NTFS drives will be mounted read-only! <--- that means i should restart?
[10:13] <Ropechoborra> :P
[10:14] <Ropechoborra> Ok brb
[10:14] <Jack_Sparrow> YEs
[10:14] <Consty> Jack_Sparrow: Remember that problem that I had the other day with totem not playing dvds even though libdvdcss2 was installed?
[10:14] <Jack_Sparrow> YEa
[10:14] <sja> lophyte ... yes, you can burn cd/dvds via VMWare
[10:14] <skybox> ah lophyte, that's a shame :(
[10:14] <lophyte> what, since when
[10:14] <Petecakes> When trying to boot with the live CD, the boot process says that it cannot read from the CD. I have tried this with several CDs (they're all immaculate) and it always happens at the same point. I'm assuming it's a problem with my drive? How do I fix it?
[10:15] <Consty> Jack_Sparrow: figured out what it was.. did a install of dapper to replace breezy but we kept the home partition intact on that install.  It had settings for the prior breezy install ~/.libdvdcss and such.. after cleaning out all that it worked like a charm.
[10:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Petecakes:  did you have the cd do a self test, did you manually check the MD5 checksum?
[10:15] <Consty> Jack_Sparrow: just thought it'd be a nice fyi incase someone else encounters it.
[10:15] <sja> lophyte -> I've always been able to do it ... but can't tell you what version of VMWare as I dumped it a few months ago for CrossOver Office ...
[10:15] <nsahoo> sja: does it take a while to automount? i mean .. after the system is up and you could log in .. it seems like it's still trying in the background and finishes mounting after a couple of minutes
[10:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Consty:  thanks
[10:15] <eimajenthat> getting some weird errors when I apt-get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17190
[10:15] <sja> only need to run 1 Windows program so VMWare was too heavy a hit on my machine
[10:15] <Consty> Jack_Sparrow: anyone upgrading from breezy to dapper would have the same problem as well. :P
[10:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Good to know..
[10:16] <sja> nsahoo, you may have to install autofs, not sure, BUT ...
[10:16] <Petecakes> Jack_Sparrow: They're all ShipIt CDs..
[10:16] <lophyte> sja: I remember reading it wasn't supported.. huh, I'll have to look into that.
[10:16] <Consty> Jack_Sparrow: have you messed with xmame at all ?
[10:16] <sja> nsahoo, you should be able to type "sudo mount -a" in a terminal and get an immediate response
[10:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Consty:  No sorry
[10:16] <nsahoo> sja: I installed autofs .. but, i am not using it ..
[10:16] <ardchoille> Petecakes: I have heard that someone ordered 25 CD's from ShipTi and they were all bad
[10:16] <CrashProne> So.. how can I make Wine not screw up? ;D  (try'n to install Kingmaker NWN expansion, Wine screws up, debugs and shuts off the exe)
[10:16] <nsahoo> sja: thats right .. but, i just wanted it to mount automatically
[10:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Petecakes:  Do a self test. Manually check the MD5 checksum?
[10:17] <nsahoo> sja: it seems fine now .. just that it takes a couple of minutes after the reboot to complete automounting it
[10:17] <Petecakes> ardchoille: Not only that, but I have a self-burnt CD of Kubuntu which also spouts the same error at the same point.
[10:17] <sja> nsahoo, great!
[10:17] <nsahoo> bye for now
[10:18] <rope> Jack_Sparrow: it works :)
[10:18] <tonyyarusso> Is there any way to play music files that were downloaded through Rhapsody under Windows on Linux?
[10:18] <Jack_Sparrow> nsahoo Use the diskmounter script
[10:18] <Jack_Sparrow> rope... Cool glad it worked for you
[10:18] <eimajenthat> can anyone tell me what these errors mean? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17190
[10:18] <Jack_Sparrow> tonyyarusso: What is the file format
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> Jack_Sparrow: I believe they're .RAX (Real Audio encrypted)
[10:19] <thenuke> helllo. what do I need to get this movie playing http://www.metacafe.com/watch/169810/are_cats_better_then_dogs
[10:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra: Sorry about the script saying you dont need to reboot... I will get that changed soon
[10:19] <Jack_Sparrow> tonyyarusso: Find a windows conversion program
[10:20] <ardchoille> Jack_Sparrow: what does the script do?
[10:20] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow: nothing to appologise for... thanks to you i got that mounted =D
[10:20] <tonyyarusso> Jack_Sparrow: Any idea where to start looking for that?  Part of the problem is, they would be DRMd.
[10:20] <blocky> is there a way to make cat show the file that each line is from?
[10:20] <Otacon22> where i get plugins for see a file .qtl
[10:20] <Otacon22> ??
[10:20] <Jack_Sparrow> It sets mounts partitions in the system
[10:20] <ardchoille> Jack_Sparrow: oh, got it, never mind
[10:20] <Jack_Sparrow> It mounts partitions in the system
[10:20] <ardchoille> yeah
[10:21] <blocky> I'm cat'ing a lot of source files together to find a certain line, and I need to know which file it's in
[10:21] <rtux> Hi guys. I need just 15 minutes from anybody who has an ATI video card running Ubuntu.
[10:21] <Jack_Sparrow> tonyyarusso:  you are talking about a propietary file format..
[10:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[10:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:21] <tonyyarusso> Jack_Sparrow: I know.
[10:21] <rtux> Jack_Sparrow.. I have tried that zillion times.
[10:22] <Petecakes> Jack_Sparrow: The checksums are all fine.
[10:22] <Jack_Sparrow> I run Nvidia so I wont be any help
[10:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Petecakes:  What hardware are you using.
[10:22] <rtux> jack.. do you use xorg.conf in any way?>
[10:22] <ardchoille> blocky: why not just:  grep certain_line /path/to/dir/containing/files/*
[10:22] <rtux> If so.. you can help me understand which modules to load at least.. or what are they?
[10:22] <Jack_Sparrow> YEa
[10:23] <Jack_Sparrow> rtux: what about it
[10:23] <Petecakes> Not sure of the make/model, but it's a DVD+/-RW, 2.8GHz P4 processor, 512MB DDR2 RAM
[10:23] <ardchoille> blocky: that'll tell you which file it's in as well as give yu the certain line
[10:23] <rtux> I think there is an optimized configuration.. if I NOT loaded some of them.. maybe my card will perform better?
[10:23] <Petecakes> @ Jack_Sparrow
[10:23] <ideogram> are you using nVidia rtux?
[10:23] <rtux> no ATi
[10:23] <joel> Guys anyone know anything about Apache Server
[10:23] <blocky> ardchoille, sorry how does that tell me which file its in?
[10:24] <blocky> i did cat *.c | grep certain_line
[10:24] <ardchoille> blocky: the output will show the file path and the cretain line
[10:24] <sja> joel-> depends ... what's your question?
[10:24] <joel> Whats the deafault apache directory? Root?
[10:24] <Blaze^^> can somebody help me with the vmware's network sharing?
[10:24] <joel> /root/httpd?
[10:24] <Blaze^^> (ubuntu through virtual Windows XP)
[10:24] <rtux> I need to understand this xorg.conf so I can manually edit it and optimize it for my Radeon 9700 pro card. Currently it shows "Radeon 9500 pro".. it must show 9700 pro. I am trying to fix it!
[10:25] <Blissex> rtux: it is right, dont worry.
[10:25] <Jack_Sparrow> I just cant believe people switch to linux then insist on bring their blotware apps and trying to get them running in an emulator.. Sorry for venting
[10:25] <rtux> Blixxex how are you so sure? I think my pc freezez because of it sometimes. Do you know if software rendering will perform better than OpenGL?
[10:26] <Ghost_Printer> agrees with Jack
[10:26] <blocky> Jack_Sparrow, sometimes people need to run said bloatware for some business purpose, and the ability to killall -9 windows without losing any of their other work is invaluable
[10:27] <Blissex> rtux: sw rendering in 3D is very slow. If you are using 'fglrx', that is is just a fair bit buggy.
[10:27] <thenuke> now I am getting an error message which states that I have too old version of macromedia flash player.. any way to get around this?
[10:27] <sja> joel-> not sure what you mean by "default apache directory" ... apache 2 is installed in /etc/apache2
[10:27] <Jack_Sparrow> blocky:  that it actually one of the few decent answers I have seen.
[10:27] <rtux> You mean that fglrx is already bugy? So what alternatives do I have?
[10:27] <Jack_Sparrow> what apps are you trying to run
[10:27] <kaot> rtux: new vid card?  :\
[10:27] <amarokker> Any thouhts on the better browser when comparing epiphany and firefox? I understand that they both use the same engine- so whats the difference there?
[10:28] <rtux> kaot.. that's the easiest thing to say :D
[10:28] <ideogram> rtux the name of the card in xorg.conf is just a label
[10:28] <kaot> rtux: sometimes the easiest to do, too, unfortunately
[10:28] <rtux> I remember you had a vid card store kaot?
[10:28] <ideogram> it doesn't affect anything
[10:28] <kaot> I came real close to shelling out for a different wireless card because linux hates mine :\
[10:28] <Petecakes> I'm assuming from the lack of replies that no-one can help me further?
[10:29] <rtux> ideogram how do you think I can make sure that my vid card is configured correctly? Any commands to try?
[10:29] <kaot> rtux: glxgears
[10:29] <Warbo> glxinfo | grep "direct"
[10:29] <blocky> Jack_Sparrow, I'm not running anything emulated right now, I was just pointing out a legitimate use for windoze emulators =)
[10:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Petecakes: If the disks check out it isnt the Ubuntu install disks it is your hardware
[10:29] <sja> joel -- document root is in /var/www if that's what you're asking
[10:29] <ardchoille> rtux: glxinfo | grep render
[10:30] <rtux> thank you guys I will try this now and send results.
[10:30] <rtux> direct rendering: Yes
[10:30] <rtux>     GLX_ATI_render_texture
[10:30] <rtux> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9500 Pro Generic
[10:30] <Warbo> rtux: You have 3D :)
[10:31] <blocky> wow, grep * is much better than cat | grep =P
[10:31] <Petecakes> Jack_Sparrow: Any ideas on how to get around hardware problems?
[10:31] <Jack_Sparrow> glxgears?
[10:31] <joel> Sja yeh your right found it mate
[10:31] <rtux> Warbo :) I know ;) I just don't feel it's optimized due to some slugishness in Screensaver output.
[10:31] <joel> can i save files to there?
[10:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Is this a laptop or desktop
[10:31] <Warbo> rtux: Ah. Which driver is this, the fglrx one?
[10:31] <rtux> yupp
[10:31] <Warbo> rtux: OK
[10:32] <Petecakes> Jack_Sparrow: me? Desktop
[10:32] <ardchoille> blocky: :)
[10:32] <ideogram> how do I get that info output from glxgears?
[10:32] <skavenge> -printfps
[10:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Petecakes:  the error you get?
[10:32] <rtux> nice question ideogram. I want to know too!
[10:32] <Petecakes> Cannot read from CD
[10:33] <Warbo> rtux: Which screensavers exactly? I have found that 3D objects work OK on my ATI, but blurry/transparent stuff goes slow
[10:33] <Petecakes> Well, that's the general jist of it anyway.
[10:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Petecakes:  does it read/boot from other cd's
[10:33] <ideogram> last time I ran glxgears on my system it was fast enough to blur
[10:33] <ideogram> now it just looks normal
[10:33] <ideogram> is this deliberate?
[10:33] <Petecakes> Jack_Sparrow: Define "other CDs". You mean like normal CDs, or OS CDs?
[10:33] <zHack> Does anyone have charter cable internet?
[10:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Petecakes:  anything that boots
[10:34] <kaot> zHack: I do
[10:34] <zHack> kaot: what is your download speed on average
[10:34] <Petecakes> Jack_Sparrow: I've only tried booting into (K)Ubuntu and DSL, and DSL works fine.
[10:34] <kaot> zHack: 3Mbps
[10:34] <Jack_Sparrow> booting kubuntu live?
[10:34] <zHack> kaot: that is what mine is supposed to be
[10:35] <zHack> kaot: but im at like 14kb/sec
[10:35] <Set> !sources
[10:35] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:35] <rtux> Warbo, I don't feel my driver is set in a stable way. I will tell you something, try going to the Screensaver selection screen.. and then switch between the screensavers very quickly.. you will either see slow response OR freeze!
[10:35] <kaot> zHack: well that bites
[10:35] <zHack> kaot: is there a charter irc?
[10:35] <Petecakes> Jack_Sparrow: Yes
[10:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Petecakes: Use Kubuntu live to download the Ubuntu CD
[10:35] <blocky> ardchoille, err, it stopped doing it
[10:36] <kaot> zHack: dunno.  they probably have a live support webchat thingy but you won't get much farther than "what OS are you running"
[10:36] <Set> where can I find a sample ubuntu sources.list file?
[10:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Are those the Ubuntu DVD's?
[10:36] <Jowi> zHack: "sudo ethtool eth0" and see if Speed and Duplex is correct
[10:36] <Jack_Sparrow> or cd's
[10:36] <kristian> Does Limewire or Frostwire work with Ubuntu?
[10:36] <zHack> kaot: well right now, windows.
[10:36] <zHack> kaot: :(
[10:36] <lophyte> kristian: sure does.
[10:36] <blocky> ardchoille, you mind if i pm you?
[10:36] <skavenge> kristian: both do
[10:36] <kaot> zHack: then they'll say you've got spyware and tell you to reinstall :D
[10:36] <Zoba> Hi, I'm fairly new to linux and just installed xubuntu on an old machine.  I'm trying to get mad wifi working on it.  The old machine doesnt have ethernet, so I've had to download the "tarball" and burn it, and then copy it.  Unfortunately, I'm not really sure what to do with it now.
[10:36] <ardchoille> blocky: not at all :)
[10:36] <Warbo> rtux: Hmm, works OK for me (but I am on the other driver, which goes slower)
[10:36] <Petecakes> >_< Jack_Sparrow: What I meant was that I've /tried/ booting Kubuntu live, and it spouts the same error as Ubuntu
[10:37] <zHack> kaot:  lol i know i dont though. thats whats so funny, maybe its becuase i am in the hills of kentucky
[10:37] <rtux> Warbo.. you are on ati driver?
[10:37] <LeaChim> Zoba, is it a .deb file you got?
[10:37] <sja> zHack -> dunno if this is the answer, but, cable is shared by everyone on your loop ... if a lot of folks on your loop are downloading, your performance will stink
[10:37] <Warbo> rtux: radeon (but it gives no 3D above 9200)
[10:37] <Set> !easy sources
[10:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about easy sources
[10:37] <Zoba> LeaChim, no I got a .tar.bz2 file
[10:37] <nonix4> GParted pukes on my partitions... how do I install w/ manual partitioning skipping that buggy gparted?
[10:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Petecakes: then it is your hardware.. and that is something there is no workaround for...  Drop in a different cd or dvd reader
[10:37] <Set> !sources.list
[10:37] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:37] <kaot> zHack: that could well do it.  it's not unusual to have crappy signal out there and population density makes it not cost-effective to fix
[10:37] <LeaChim> Zoba, you want madwifi drivers right? you need a .deb file. lemme find it for you
[10:37] <nonix4> (5.10 => 6.06 upgrade)
[10:37] <skavenge> !easysource
[10:37] <kristian> lophyte, how do I install frostwire?
[10:37] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:37] <Zoba> LeaChim, thanks a ton
[10:37] <Syco54645> cany anyone tell me where my wineconfig would be?
[10:38] <rtux> not sure what you mean.. do you use fglrx or ati or vesa Warbo?
[10:38] <lophyte> !frostwire
[10:38] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:38] <Warbo> rtux: radeon
[10:38] <lophyte> there ya go, kristian
[10:38] <kristian> thx
[10:38] <zHack> lol, i need me some T3
[10:38] <skavenge> frosstwire's in the repos
[10:38] <nonix4> Can I simply mount the dst partition somewhere and tell the installer to go on from there?
[10:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Syco54645:  you run that from a terminal window
[10:38] <kaot> zHack: you rich?
[10:38] <skavenge> if they're enabled 'sudo apt-get install frostwire'
[10:38] <Jowi> Zoba: I don't use it but I found this on the site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Madwifi
[10:38] <zHack> kaot: i wish
[10:38] <Syco54645> Jack_Sparrow: i mean the text file to configure wine
[10:38] <kaot> i mean, everyone needs t3, or fiber to the home.  it should be an inalienable human right.
[10:39] <rtux> Warbo, I didn't see this one anywhere that's why I asked again. Can you tell me how I can install a radeon driver?
[10:39] <Zoba> Jowi, thanks I will check it out
[10:39] <kaot> Life, liberty, and near-unlimited bandwidth.
[10:39] <Petecakes> Jack_Sparrow: I'm sure I've got a spare CD drive lying around somewhere that I could pop in. Thanks a lot for the help, though, much appreciated :)
[10:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Petecakes:  sorry I couldnt be more help
[10:39] <Warbo> rtux: If you have anything above a Radeon 9200 then it's not worth bothering
[10:39] <zHack> kaot: im not reaching near my bandwidth
[10:39] <kaot> clearly
[10:39] <kaot> :] 
[10:39] <rtux> Actually I do. Thanks anyway.
[10:39] <nonix4> kaot: pfft, too slow! 10Gbps all the way :-)
[10:39] <kaot> heh
[10:39] <sja> zHack -> I don't know if you have it available, but my DSL is 7Mb and it's not shared -- you might do a comparison check between cable and dsl in your area
[10:39] <kaot> OC48 straight to my skull
[10:40] <zHack> good idea
[10:40] <malavar> hey what are some good free shooter games for linux?
[10:40] <zHack> i think bell south is the main dsl provider here
[10:40] <LeaChim> Zoba, can you tell me the output of 'uname -r' please? run that in a terminal without the quotes
[10:40] <Syco54645> Jack_Sparrow: i am looking for the text config file for wine so that i can edit it
[10:40] <sja> zHack -> mine's QWest ... all the telcos have different plans
[10:41] <kaot> I never did like adsl
[10:41] <Jack_Sparrow> AH.. sorry, should be something like~/.wine
[10:41] <Warbo> malavar: Doomsday (with shareware WADs), Nexuis (I think that's how it's spelled) Enemy Territory
[10:41] <Zoba> LeaChim, 2.6.15-23-386
[10:41] <kaot> PPPoE is oogleh
[10:41] <LeaChim> Zoba, so what wireless card/model do you have?
[10:41] <Syco54645> Jack_Sparrow: one would think, but it isnt there
[10:41] <Brunno> does anyone know how do i install lazarus on ubuntu dapper ?
[10:41] <Evilscietnist> I need a little help setting up my domain...any takers..pm me please
[10:41] <sja> kaot -> don't know about your DSL experience ... I'm definitely not on PPPoE
[10:42] <Zoba> LeaChim, NetGear WG311
[10:42] <sja> Evilscientist -> ask your question(s)
[10:42] <malavar> ok thanks
[10:42] <kaot> sja: last I knew all adsl was pppoe.  I've been out of it for a while though.
[10:42] <aztracker1> back.. okay.. another question.. now on a different display, and the sync is now too high/out of range for the display... how do I change this from the command line?
[10:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Syco54645: do you see any folders starting with /.xxx
[10:42] <LeaChim> Zoba, and you installed dapper right?
[10:42] <aztracker1> probably same command as earlier... 6.06
[10:42] <Warbo> kaot: USB ADSL is the worst. At least PPPoE has a standard set of tools
[10:42] <Syco54645> Jack_Sparrow: well there is a .wine folder, but the config isnt in there
[10:42] <Zoba> LeaChim, yes...dapper xubuntu
[10:42] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[10:42] <Evilscietnist> I'm all set up as far as I can tell...when winxp client tries to join domain get "access denied"
[10:42] <kaot> Warbo: why would you do that to yourself?!  :\
[10:42] <kristian> Why is Frostwire taking so long time to open?
[10:42] <Jowi> !fixres
[10:42] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:42] <Jack_Sparrow> I dont use wine at all
[10:43] <rtux> Warbo.. can I configure my fglrx driver to optimize it for best performance rather than quality through aticonfig or something?
[10:43] <Syco54645> Jack_Sparrow: oh ok, thanks anwyas
[10:43] <kaot> any networking over usb bites, as far as I'm concerned
[10:43] <sja> kaot -> I'm PPPoA
[10:43] <Warbo> Syco54645: I think the settings are either universal ones somewhere in /etc, or maybe they are in .wine/drive_c/windows
[10:43] <LeaChim> Zoba, what encryption do you use? none/wep/wpa?
[10:43] <pinky> Does anyone else have trouble using libvisual plugins with amaroK in Dapper Drake?
[10:43] <kaot> wtf is pppoa?
[10:43] <Syco54645> Warbo: do you know what the file is named by chance
[10:43] <Evilscietnist> I can access the server computer from within a workgroup...but not as domain...
[10:43] <ideogram> you can restart X with ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:43] <Brunno> how do i install a program from a tar.gz package ? (source, right ?)
[10:43] <Jowi> kaot: only some countries and providers use it instead of PPPoE
[10:43] <Zoba> LeaChim, let me check I forget
[10:43] <Warbo> rtux: I don't know. The only configuring tool I've seen for fglrx lets me set the whole screen to yellow and set up a TV
[10:44] <kaot> Jowi: ok, but what is it?  PPP over ATM?
[10:44] <Jowi> kaot: PPP over ATM if I'm notmistaken
[10:44] <Jowi> yes
[10:44] <sja> Evilscientist -> I can't help, don't do Windoze -- my virus scanner removed it
[10:44] <pianoboy3333> can anyone help me with audacity?
[10:44] <Evilscietnist> LOL
[10:44] <Warbo> Syco54645: No sorry, I was suprised after the registry things were gone from .wine recently, but winecfg made me feel better
[10:44] <Evilscietnist> very funny sja....
[10:44] <epod> Hi, I'm having a weird apache issue.  If I go to www.blah.ca, www.fooblah.ca or www.blahfoo.ca, the correct page loads, but if I go to just blahfoo.ca, or fooblah.ca, I get blah.ca's page.  Can anyone tell me what I have wrong in my vhost setup perhaps?
[10:44] <Evilscietnist> ne1?
[10:44] <Warbo> pianoboy3333: Sound not starting by any chance?
[10:44] <Evilscietnist> beuller??
[10:44] <Zoba> LeaChim, whichever one is the "stronger" one...I always get them mixed up
[10:45] <LeaChim> bleh
[10:45] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[10:45] <wubrgamer> i just discovered GPG
[10:45] <sja> PPPoE stands for point to point protocol over ethernet. It is a method of encapsulating your data for transmission to a far point.
[10:45] <sja> PPPoA is PPP over ATM
[10:45] <spades> epod make sure to have www.domain and domain in the ServerAlias
[10:45] <wubrgamer> what like
[10:45] <wubrgamer> client should i use ?
[10:45] <pianoboy3333> Warbo: no, not that, I was wondering how to position the cursor exactly 2 secs from the end of the file
[10:45] <rtux> Ok Warbo. Do you or anybody have success with using Wine?
[10:45] <epod> spades: so have 2 ServerName lines?
[10:45] <LeaChim> Zoba, it'll take longer to get wpa. mind asking for someone else to help sorry? i haven't really got the time. apologies
[10:45] <kaot> sja: yes thank you we established that
[10:45] <kaot> hehe
[10:45] <ardchoille> wubrgamer: I use it with thunderbird-enigmail in thunderbird and it's great
[10:45] <andyjeffries> Can anyone help - what's the name of the package containing the PHP HTML help files?
[10:45] <Warbo> pianoboy3333: Oh, OK. I am pretty useless with Audacity myself, but I know how to kill ESD before I run it :)
[10:45] <Syco54645> Warbo: well i am trying to get a game working in cedega that works in wine, and i figure it is a config file difference
[10:45] <wubrgamer> no no no, just for managing my keys etc.
[10:45] <spades> epod ServerName domain.ca  ServerAlias www.domain.ca domain.ca
[10:45] <Zoba> LeaChim, if you can do WEP that'd be fine and I can just change my router
[10:45] <sja> kaot -> he was quicker than I was ... I was looking it up
[10:46] <epod> spades: ahh ok thanks!
[10:46] <pianoboy3333> Warbo: I don't need to hear what I'm working on, I'm that good ;)
[10:46] <kaot> never heard of PPPoA used in US tho
[10:46] <Warbo> rtux: I have run quite a bit of stuff in WINE (but only applications, not games. Well, I ran one but it was pathetically slow)
[10:46] <kaot> but like I said I've been out of it for a while
[10:46] <Warbo> pianoboy3333: We have another Beethoven
[10:46] <sja> kaot -> Qwest switched to it 2-3 years ago
[10:46] <Zoba> LeaChim, if not though that is alright.  Thanks for the help so far
[10:46] <rtux> That's encouraging Warbo :D
[10:47] <kaot> huh.
[10:47] <kaot> cool
[10:47] <ardchoille> wubrgamer: I use Seahorse to manage keys. seahorse is in the repos
[10:47] <Jowi> kaot: yeah, first time I came accross it was in france with an ISP called 9telecom. only ISP I ever saw even in france.
[10:47] <wubrgamer> seahorse ?
[10:47] <pianoboy3333> Warbo: no, I ripped a cd with banshee, but banshee keeps the 2 secs of black in between each song... and it's dark side of the moon, and I don't really want gaps on that album...
[10:47] <Evilscietnist> so no one has had "access denied error" trying to login to domain??
[10:47] <epod> pianoboy3333: try Grip
[10:47] <wahlau> sorry guys
[10:48] <wahlau> i have a very off topic question
[10:48] <Warbo> pianoboy3333: Surely there is a way to not have gaps? (I use grip, which lets you choose)
[10:48] <erUSUL> pianoboy3333: use grip or soundjuicer if you want more control
[10:48] <wahlau> anyone here speaks italian?
[10:48] <ardchoille> wubrgamer: yes, seahorse .. yu can also use kgpg if you use kde
[10:48] <Warbo> !it
[10:48] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:48] <epod> rtux: I ran WoW just fine in Wine.
[10:48] <erUSUL> !it
[10:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !ita
[10:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about ita
[10:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !it
[10:48] <pianoboy3333> Warbo: epod: erUSUL: yea.... normally it's fine...
[10:48] <wahlau> ok
[10:48] <wahlau> thanks
[10:48] <pianoboy3333> my friend burnt it bad
[10:48] <rtux> epod that's great news. Did you try cedega?
[10:48] <m0gsi> How would i make the command sudo modprobe ndiswrapper , execute on startup?
[10:49] <skavenge> m0gsi: add 'ndiswrapper' to /etc/modules
[10:49] <pygi> Hey hey all :)
[10:49] <Warbo> pianoboy3333: Can't you just get a data CD of the files instead, if it is a copy?
[10:49] <m0gsi> Thank you skavenge
[10:49] <pianoboy3333> yea.....
[10:49] <erUSUL> m0gsi: echo ndiswrapper >> /etc/modules
[10:49] <andyjeffries> Can anyone help - what's the name of the package containing the PHP HTML help files?
[10:49] <skavenge> m0gsi: put it at thye bottom of the list, the sudo and modprobe bits arent required
[10:49] <wahlau> i actually need someone to translate something for me :)
[10:49] <kaot> skavenge: is that the actual way to do it?  adding that /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper file to /etc/modutils worked for me but that's prob ably wrong.
[10:49] <kaot> I don't even know why it worked.
[10:49] <pygi> Zoba, hey :)
[10:50] <kaot> but, it did.
[10:50] <m0gsi> Thanks you all
[10:50] <skavenge> kaot: dunno if its right i followed an online tutorial when i did mine thats what they suggested
[10:50] <Zoba> pygi, hey there
[10:50] <pygi> Zoba, so you don't have a internet connection or?
[10:50] <epod> rtux: No, I can't pay for cedega, they don't take Amex, so I just use Wine.
[10:50] <kaot> what's funny tho is the driver that finally worked for my card has the lights backwards, the activity light acts as the power light and vice versa
[10:50] <ardchoille> kaot: lol
[10:50] <kaot> but as long as it works...
[10:50] <Zoba> pygi, I do but I'm on my laptop...but the desktop doesnt
[10:50] <stephan__> whats the best way to bind keys to the keyboard like media.home,playt .....etc
[10:50] <skavenge> technically my nic is supposed to work with a driver in the kernel now but i got it working with nidswrapper so im not touching it either heh
[10:50] <pygi> I guess you could generate a download script with synaptic for network-manager-gnome
[10:51] <kaot> skavenge: broadcom chipset?
[10:51] <skavenge> kaot: you got it
[10:51] <kaot> mine to
[10:51] <kaot> *too
[10:51] <kaot> god that sucked.
[10:51] <skavenge> kaot: dell 1350 nic but its broadcom guts
[10:51] <pygi> Zoba, and then import those packages on your desktop machine
[10:51] <kaot> yeah mine's a belkin
[10:51] <pygi> Zoba, you get it? :)
[10:51] <Zoba> pygi, (and most unfortunately I dont have any CD-RWs...just CD-Rs)
[10:51] <kaot> i wasn't thinking about making this laptop a dualboot when I bought the nice
[10:51] <kaot> *ni
[10:51] <kaot> *nic
[10:52] <nonix4> How do I start the text mode installer w/ 6.06?
[10:52] <ardchoille> kaot: hahaha
[10:52] <Zoba> pygi, Unfortunately my laptop (the one with the internet) has Windows
[10:52] <pygi> Zoba, that's fine, you can still get url's from download script
[10:52] <ardchoille> kaot: lol, you sure you got your keyboard installed correctly?
[10:52] <j1p> has anyone here installed songbird on linux?
[10:52] <Zoba> pygi, I'm a bit too much of a newbie I think
[10:52] <Lord_Nightmare> am I allowed to ask why certain 'universe' packages (namely fonts) don't work properly? is there some cache i have to manually update or paths i need to manually define? I recently replaced my debian installation with ubuntu, and the packages worked perfectly fine in raw debian...
[10:52] <kaot> ardchoille: you know, that must be it.  I doubt my typing skills could be anything less than exemplary.
[10:52] <kaot> stupid keyboard driver.
[10:53] <ardchoille> hahaha
[10:53] <pygi> Zoba, just open the "sh" script that will get generated by synaptic
[10:53] <pygi> with notepad :P
[10:53] <rtux> epod: May I ask you (excuse my laziness) what type of problems that you faced generally in using Wine? Special dependencies etc?
[10:53] <Zoba> pygi, the desktop doesnt have internet though
[10:53] <pygi> Zoba, well, you don't need internet on desktop
[10:53] <pygi> ok, lemme guide you
[10:54] <epod> rtux: I actually used winehq's .deb's for wine, instead of Ubuntu's.  They were more up to date.  I had to add IE and all the fun stuff, but winesetup makes it pretty simple.
[10:54] <Zoba> pygi, ok I will try
[10:54] <pygi> Zoba, open a synaptic
[10:54] <kaot> for my next trick, I'm going to use this laptop as a wireless bridge for a desktop box I've got in this room.
[10:54] <kaot> i can feel my hair turning gray already
[10:54] <pygi> Zoba, select network-manager-gnome
[10:54] <pygi> Zoba, then: File --> Generate download script
[10:54] <epod> kaot: I hate to gloat but.. I can do that in about 0.0002 second with my Mac.  it's 1 checkbox ;)
[10:54] <pygi> Zoba, then you choose where you wanna save sh script
[10:55] <rtux> Thanks epod. If anybody can confirm to me whether I should use Ubuntus Wine or other ones? Anybody knows if Ubuntus Dapper Wine works fine?
[10:55] <kaot> epod: I hate you and your mac.
[10:55] <kaot> ;)
[10:55] <pygi> Zoba, then you can open the script with gedit
[10:55] <pygi> Zoba, and see the packages URL that you need to download on Windows
[10:55] <Zoba> pygi, there is nothing listed in synaptic
[10:55] <kaot> actually it shouldn't be too hard.  just that my iptables-fu is rusty
[10:55] <ks1> can someone point me in the direction of how to make .deb that is easy and comprehensive ?
[10:55] <epod> rtux: I'm unsure, I haven't used wine on dapper.  Go with the newest versions, and check winehq.
[10:55] <ideogram> I need to buy a mac
[10:55] <ardchoille> epod: you can make your hair turn grey with one checkbox???
[10:55] <pygi> Zoba, what do you mean by nothing? :P
[10:55] <kaot> ardchoille: lol
[10:55] <ardchoille> wowsers
[10:55] <epod> ideogram: I'm selling one for $1100 US. :)
[10:55] <ideogram> they are finally at a reasonable price and they look like fun
[10:55] <kaot> everything is easier with a mac
[10:55] <ideogram> no that's too much
[10:55] <ideogram> $500 is good
[10:55] <JohnRobert> here's a question. Has anyone found a solution to the flash sound sync problem? i.e you go on to google video/youtube and all the sound is out of sync.
[10:55] <Zoba> pygi, no packages are listed
[10:55] <epod> ideogram: hahaha.  that's funny :)
[10:55] <rtux> epod. You know that apt-get update gets the newer packages of course?
[10:56] <kaot> []  Prematurely Age  [ok]  [cancel] 
[10:56] <epod> ardchoille: nah, that's one command in iPhoto ;)
[10:56] <pygi> Zoba,uh, please pastebin me a /etc/sources.list
[10:56] <ideogram> I built my athlon 3200+ with 1GB ram for less than $500
[10:56] <ardchoille> epod: hehe
[10:56] <pygi> Zoba, and join me in #xubuntu, less traffic
[10:56] <Zoba> pygi, perhaps I should just install a network card
[10:56] <epod> rtux: yes, but the winehq repositoties aren't part of sources.list by default.
[10:56] <Warbo> rtux: Dapper WINE seems OK, but so does WINEHQ's. I don't know what this obsession with newest versions is, since the Dapper ones should be the most stable
[10:56] <ardchoille> ideogram: I've never spent more than $400.00 US on a computer
[10:57] <rtux> Warbo, maybe some might think there is bug-fixes in newer versions that's all :)
[10:57] <Jack_Sparrow> ideogram:  I have a G4 Power PC here gathering dust
[10:57] <epod> ideogram: I can do that too, but you go build me a notebook from scratch for $400 and I'll be impressed ;)
[10:57] <Malin`> my flatmate just launched ubuntu with xgl
[10:57] <ardchoille> kaot: nice price for a lappy
[10:57] <Malin`> a-w-e-s-o-m-e
[10:57] <kaot> ardchoille: heck yeah
[10:57] <ideogram> You can buy a notebook new for $500
[10:57] <kaot> friend hooked me up
[10:57] <epod> crap ones.
[10:57] <epod> lol
[10:57] <kaot> display does 1600x1200
[10:57] <ideogram> everything these days is fast enough
[10:58] <Malin`> looks sweet
[10:58] <ideogram> the last application that needs power is video editing
[10:58] <tufsy> hi all
[10:58] <dimitri> hi all
[10:58] <tufsy> can someone tell me what is GART?
[10:58] <ideogram> Jack_sparrow: I don't want an obsolete computer
[10:58] <epod> ideogram: and gaming.
[10:58] <ideogram> gamiing is all about the video card
[10:58] <epod> hardly.
[10:58] <kaot> ideogram: sometimes.
[10:58] <kaot> ideogram: you stick a top of the line vid card in a PIII with pc100 ram you'll be ticked.
[10:58] <Jack_Sparrow> idea You dont want anything decent if you only have $500 and want a Mac
[10:59] <Warbo> rtux: But the Dapper ones and the WINEHQ ones are not that different. Dapper ones would probably work better though. (The worst case of "newest version" fever is graphics card drivers. Why get x.xx.xxxxxx2 instead of x.xx.xxxxxx1 when the Dapper packaged one is much easier to set up?)
[10:59] <tufsy> in dmesg i get [17179607.632000]  [fglrx]  total      GART = 134217728 - but i should have 256mb on my ati radeon graphics card - which works fine on windows
[10:59] <ideogram> PIII is obsolete
[10:59] <kaot> exactly.
[10:59] <JohnRobert> I use a p3
[10:59] <JohnRobert> with gentoo
[10:59] <epod> there's some nice p3's in tablets.
[10:59] <JohnRobert> works well
[10:59] <JohnRobert> :p
[10:59] <kaot> so you have to keep the cpu and mobo and ram up to date as well
[10:59] <ideogram> you can get an Athlon 3200+ for less than a hundred bucks
[10:59] <kaot> so it's not *all* about the vid card.
[10:59] <ideogram> I'm talking about what you can buy for $400 today
[10:59] <tufsy> my ati card only shows 128mb whereas it should be 256 mb
[10:59] <tufsy> can someone pls help?#
[10:59] <ideogram> I'm not talking about sticking an up-to-date video card in an obsolete PC
[10:59] <rtux> Warbo, that's why I asked to use Dapper ones ;) I know it's saving lots of headache ! :) I will try it now and give results soon. Thanks Warbo.
[10:59] <Warbo> I set up a PII the other day. Pretty good at multimedia, word processing and CD writing
[11:00] <ardchoille> ideogram: I don't run games, so onboard video is sufficient for most things with me
[11:00] <ideogram> well that's fine for you
[11:00] <epod> hate onboard video.  hate.
[11:00] <epod> lol
[11:00] <sja> tufsy -> Geometric Aspects of Representation Theory???  In what context are you asking?
[11:00] <kaot> hate onboard anything
[11:00] <ideogram> my $200 video card runs Half-Life 2 just fine
[11:00] <epod> kaot: I like onboard nics.
[11:00] <kristian> I need a program to download music, movies, and so on... Not limewire or frostwire, cause it's not working here...:S
[11:00] <ideogram> I'm waiting for a $500 Intel-based Mac
[11:00] <Lord_Nightmare> my problem is that after installing xfonts-terminus it doesn't show up in the font selection window in xchat
[11:00] <kaot> I don't.  I'm just prejudiced, I don't even have a valid reason.  Onboard = bad.  You can't convince me otherwise.
[11:01] <kaot> I'll plug my fingers in my ears.
[11:01] <epod> ideogram: keep waitin.  I think the cheapest minis are like $699
[11:01] <sja> kristian -> download PAN then get a usenet account
[11:01] <Warbo> tufsy: If that is what the xserver config says then just leave it blank and it should use the right amount (unless it is onboard, in which case it usually doesn't have any RAM at all)
[11:01] <tufsy> sja, i am looking in dmesg - trying to figure out why my graphics card is only showing 128mb whereas on windows it shows 256
[11:01] <tonyyarusso> Anyone used the Realplayer 10 .deb from Marrillat?  Did you have any Debian-Ubuntu incompatibility problems?
[11:01] <ideogram> well prices will come down
[11:01] <kristian> sja: What is PAN?
[11:01] <ideogram> and I wouldnt' run Ubunto on a mac
[11:01] <ideogram> the whole point of mac hardware is to run mac software
[11:01] <epod> ideogram: this is apple.  really, no.  They'll just phase in new stuff.  You'll be buying 2nd hand
[11:01] <sja> tufsy -> sorry, can't help ... use NVidia
[11:01] <ideogram> no, the mac mini shows they are taking the low end seriously
[11:01] <rtux> Warbo.. I am download the packages now. Meanwhile I would like to ask.. did you or anybody tried using Adobe Photoshop with Wine?
[11:01] <sja> kristian -> usenet reader
[11:01] <tufsy> Warbo, i have tried to leave xorg.conf blank for mem - but it won't recognise 256mb
[11:02] <ideogram> they aren't just a premiom brand anymore
[11:02] <doctormo> I want a sound tone visualisation program, something that will produce a graph.
[11:02] <tufsy> Warbo, it only shows 128 - but windows shows full 256
[11:02] <doctormo> does anyone know of anything available?
[11:02] <kristian> Where do I find PAN? Url?
[11:02] <Jack_Sparrow> doctormo: You mean something like souhndforge on WIndows?
[11:02] <Warbo> tufsy: So what? My Radeon 9200 show up as a Radeon Mobility 9000, doesn;t affect the performance though
[11:02] <doctormo> Jack_Sparrow: never heard of it
[11:02] <sja> kristian -> assuming you're using ubuntu, it's in the respository --- use synaptic or "sudo apt-get install pan" ...
[11:03] <Jack_Sparrow> ah
[11:03] <Jack_Sparrow> ONe sec..
[11:03] <tufsy> Warbo, yeah but it is not using 256mb ... is it?
[11:03] <kristian> sja, yes okai.
[11:03] <sja> kristian -> but without a usenet account (I use usenetserver - unlimited access, $14.95 a month) it's worthless
[11:03] <Warbo> tufsy: I don;t know. Only one way to test, try a stupidly hungry game
[11:04] <Jack_Sparrow> doctormo: Google soundforge6 and see if that is something like what you need.
[11:04] <tufsy> Warbo, i ran glxgears but am only getting:
[11:04] <ardchoille> how do you get the fps output with glxgears?
[11:04] <kristian> I don't want to pay for it :P
[11:04] <Cyburai> I am having a problem with sound. I have no sound in xmms/xine under dapper. My laptop is fine, but my two desktops have the same sound chips (Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller) and they have no sound. They were both fine under Breezy.
[11:05] <tufsy> Warbo, 319 frames in 5.0 seconds = 63.660 FPS
[11:05] <tufsy> Warbo, that's when glxgears is full screen
[11:05] <Warbo> tufsy: You have the right driver set up?
[11:05] <Cyburai> can anyone help?
[11:05] <tufsy> yeah i have the latest ati driver
[11:05] <kristian> sja, I don't want to pay for it :P
[11:05] <Jack_Sparrow> What is the glxgears command line for fps?
[11:05] <kristian> im a pirat :)
[11:05] <doctormo> Jack_Sparrow: no it's something which isn't available on Linux.
[11:05] <sja> kristian -> then you're SOL as for as usenet goes
[11:06] <tufsy> Warbo, OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 Generic
[11:06] <Warbo> tufsy: Well I don;t get the FPS (and it should not be taken as a definitive benchmark) so I don;t know if it is working fully or not
[11:06] <kaot> -printfps
[11:06] <kaot> outputs every 5 secs
[11:06] <tufsy> Warbo, OpenGL version string: 2.0.5879 (8.26.18)
[11:06] <kristian> sja, SOL?
[11:06] <sja> kristian -> uh .... "sure out of luck" ... yeah, that's it
[11:07] <zOap> I need a good dvd to divx/quicktime converter
[11:07] <tufsy> Warbo, try: glxgears -printfps
[11:07] <Warbo> kristian: Try FreeNet. Frost has a usenet type system, and it is heaven for pirates :)
[11:07] <Jack_Sparrow> only getting 250 fps... but I have a few windows and apps running..
[11:07] <kristian> sja, well, right then. I just want to download:P
[11:07] <ideogram> pirating is best on bittorrent
[11:07] <kristian> Warbo: How do I try Freenet? I don't know what we are talking about :P
[11:08] <tufsy> Jack_Sparrow, which card do u have?
[11:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Nvidia 6600
[11:08] <sja> Much easier to track downloaders on IRC than from usenet... but, whatever, windows is gone and so are my old bad ways
[11:08] <Warbo> kristian: Look on freenetproject.org if you want (but it goes SLOOOOOOW)
[11:08] <tufsy> Warbo, any luck?
[11:08] <Seveas> illegal downloading discussions elsewhere please
[11:08] <Jack_Sparrow> What are other people getting for FPS?
[11:08] <Warbo> tufsy: -printfps doesn't seem to be an option
[11:08] <Seveas> or better: not at all
[11:09] <kristian> Warbo: Well, then I don't do ;)
[11:09] <Cyburai> I am having a problem with sound. I have no sound in xmms/xine under dapper. My laptop is fine, but my two desktops have the same sound chips (Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller) and they have no sound. They were both fine under Breezy. Can anyone help? Seveas?
[11:09] <kristian> But how am I going to open frostwire at all? It's not working...
[11:09] <Seveas> Cyburai, xmms set up to use esd?
[11:09] <epod> Cyburai: you did unmute the sound, right?
[11:09] <Warbo> !frostwire
[11:09] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:09] <tufsy> Warbo, glxgears -printfps
[11:09] <spik> I have a question about Ubuntu and it's packaging
[11:09] <Jack_Sparrow> tufsy:  What are you getting for FPS
[11:09] <spik> it's the only beef I have with Ubuntu
[11:10] <spik> How do I stay on the bleeding edge?
[11:10] <udo> !mutella
[11:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about mutella
[11:10] <Seveas> spik, run edgy 
[11:10] <derek> Why dont I have any sound?
[11:10] <Seveas> but that really can be *bleeding* edge as in: broken
[11:10] <tufsy> Jack_Sparrow, glxgears -printfps
[11:10] <derek> I cant join any more channels, for offtopic chat..why?
[11:10] <spik> like I want the latest version of a program
[11:10] <Seveas> derek, freenode allows max 20 channels
[11:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Got htat, just curious If my 250 is average or not
[11:11] <Seveas> 250 is slow
[11:11] <Warbo> tufsy: Doesn;t work (just gives me a list of options like -display and stuff)
[11:11] <Jack_Sparrow> THought so..
[11:11] <skavenge> 250 what? fps?
[11:11] <tufsy> i get 1485.492 when the program is small - but when i make it full screen it just gives me a rubbish fps:
[11:11] <spik> let's say a new veson of foo was released yesterday
[11:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Need to shut down some windows and try agai..
[11:11] <udo> who can i install my adsl usb modem (access runner) in dapper?
[11:11] <derek> I cant get in any more channels then thiso ne
[11:11] <spik> how would I get a .deb of that?
[11:11] <Warbo> spik: Try Edgy (and then realise why Ubuntu is not bleeding edge)
[11:11] <derek> this one*
[11:11] <Seveas> spik, hope that the developers produce .deb files
[11:11] <spades> spik build from source and use checkinstall to build and install the deb
[11:11] <Seveas> or learn to package yourself
[11:11] <gnomefreak> spik: what app?
[11:11] <tufsy> 50 odd
[11:11] <spik> Inkscape
[11:11] <Seveas> Ubuntu is not about bleeding edge, but stability.
[11:11] <spik> Amarok and too
[11:12] <tufsy> plus my processor goes up to 100%
[11:12] <bobgreen5s> how do you get glxgears to display fps?
[11:12] <Warbo> spik: Ah, I would recommend the SVN of it
[11:12] <Seveas> bobgreen5s, glxgears -printfps
[11:12] <Teqonix> Whoo-boy.. I have a doozy of an issue here (About Ubuntu 6.06 Server), mind if I spit out a question?
[11:12] <bobgreen5s> ah thanks
[11:12] <Seveas> Teqonix, ask away
[11:12] <gnomefreak> Teqonix: go for it
[11:12] <Warbo> spik: I found a bug with the one in Dapper [gradients disappeared]  so I asked them to fix it and it is in SVN
[11:12] <Seveas> GO GO GO!
[11:12] <dimitri> can any1 help me with a simple msql issue, it sais ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'dimitri'@'localhost' (using password: NO), when i just type msql form the console, i installed from the repos, verson 5.0
[11:12] <spik> Warbo how would I create a .deb of that?
[11:13] <gnomefreak> btw Seveas edgy is not installable anymore :(
[11:13] <Cyburai> dimitri, it's been my experience that mysql v5 is messed up
[11:13] <spik> I'm used to Gentoo, where I can just emerge the latest version
[11:13] <Teqonix> Well, I'm wanting to install a LAMP server on an old hunk of junk I have, but when I try to do anything with the install disk, the first thing I see after 'Decrompressing Linux, booting the kernel', I get a wierd error:
[11:13] <dimitri> :<
[11:13] <Seveas> dimitri, mysql -u root localhost (default mysql account is root without password, and you should change that asap)
[11:13] <Teqonix> ' Buffer I/O error on device hda block 0'
[11:13] <sja> dimitri-> have you granted access to dimitri@local host?
[11:13] <dimitri> thats sux
[11:13] <Warbo> spik: Use SVN to grab the source, do the ./autogen.sh, ./configure, make stuff, but instead of make install use checkinstall
[11:13] <rpedro> spik: for amarok add this to your sources.list : deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main
[11:13] <gnomefreak> !compile > spik
[11:13] <Teqonix> So, I switched HDD's, and I get the same thing.
[11:13] <Seveas> spik, ubuntu isn't gentoo
[11:13] <derek> I am randomly surfing the web on Firefox, and Ubuntu just closes firefox randomly..why?
[11:13] <Seveas> you can't have it both ways 
[11:13] <Cyburai> dimitri, but you should try logging into mysql the first time as root, not your user name
[11:13] <Warbo> spik: (I am on about Inkscape)
[11:13] <dimitri> sja how do i do that
[11:13] <Teqonix> And I have no clue what to do.
[11:13] <nonix4> Is the text-mode installer only available on the alternate cd?
[11:13] <Seveas> derek, most likely a bug in the flash player or java plugin
[11:13] <spik> Seveas I understand that, all I want is the latest version of certain packages
[11:14] <kristian> Warbo: I don't find how to open frostwire... Nothing happen when I try.
[11:14] <ideogram> what are the advantages/disadvantages of ubunto vs gentoo?
[11:14] <derek> Okay
[11:14] <spik> Warbo will checkinstall create a deb?
[11:14] <gnomefreak> derek: are you going to site with flash and no flash player installed for ff?
[11:14] <derek> No
[11:14] <Seveas> Teqonix, check the cable and the motherboard (cable is more likely)
[11:14] <Warbo> kristian: I was on about Frost anyway, not frostwire. I have never used frostwire
[11:14] <udo> who can i install my adsl usb modem (access runner) in dapper?
[11:14] <bobgreen5s> kristian, ubuntuguide.org
[11:14] <Warbo> spik: Yes
[11:14] <gnomefreak> ideogram: ubuntu you dont have to build anything
[11:14] <derek> Any old site, it closes
[11:14] <Cyburai> ideogram, gentoo takes forever to install, and you don't want to take a system that is mission critical offline as long as it takes gentoo to upgrade
[11:14] <David42UK> hi all, anyone built the eagle-usb driver for linux, this is driving me nuts using xp
[11:14] <gnomefreak> derek: give me a link to a site crashing ff
[11:14] <dimitri> Cyburai, that worked, thank, but i dont want to work as root
[11:14] <Teqonix> Hmm.. Checking the cable, now.
[11:14] <ardchoille> ideogram: advantages are, you get to use apps *now* instead of waiting for hours and hoping you don't forget why you wanted the app
[11:14] <dimitri> how can i give myself access
[11:14] <mc__> s/thank/thank you
[11:14] <Warbo> David42UK: I worte the guide. What do you want to know?
[11:15] <derek> gnomefreak: http://www.pspcrazy.com/
[11:15] <Cyburai> ideogram, aside from that, it's just the normal distro differences
[11:15] <gnomefreak> brb
[11:15] <stefg> Teqonix: try booting with acpi=off noapic nolapic
[11:15] <WiLd_TiGeR> hello all
[11:15] <kristian> !limewire
[11:15] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[11:15] <David42UK> i have all the build esseentials
[11:15] <ideogram> does compiling from source get you better performance?
[11:15] <sja> dimitri-> don't remeber offhand -- check mysql.com -- essentially you start mysql by typing "sudo mysql" ... then do a grant all on <whatever> to <whoever@wherever> identified by <password>
[11:15] <Jack_Sparrow> My xorg.conf shows the correct video card...  ANy suggestions on gettng a faster fps
[11:15] <derek> !Limewire
[11:15] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[11:15] <Warbo> David42UK: Are you following the Wiki guide?
[11:15] <jme> !FrostWire
[11:15] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:15] <pennypacker> heh
[11:16] <doctormo> Damn, I can't seem to find any tone visualisation software, seems they all do ocilascopes and not tone based graphs.
[11:16] <jme> it's not like you need a limewire clone when gnutella is open
[11:16] <Cyburai> I am having a problem with sound. I have no sound in xmms/xine under dapper. My laptop is fine, but my two desktops have the same sound chips (Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller) and they have no sound. They were both fine under Breezy. Can anyone help?
[11:16] <David42UK> i have all the build essentials and kernel tree, point the configure script to /usr/src/linux and it cab't find it
[11:16] <udo> who can i install my adsl usb modem (access runner) in dapper?
[11:16] <ardchoille> ideogram: depends on who yuo talk to. gentoo users will say yes, most others will say no
[11:16] <pennypacker> is that the built in answerbot
[11:16] <Seveas> !kernel
[11:16] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !alsa
[11:16] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:16] <ideogram> I guess I'm not running any performance critical tasks anyway
[11:16] <pennypacker> !
[11:16] <Seveas> David42UK, --^
[11:16] <Warbo> David42UK: Just having the right linux-headers should work, you don;t have to point it anywhere
[11:16] <suspekt> anyone have any experience with enlightenment16 or installing kde?
[11:16] <derek> !Ares
[11:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about Ares
[11:16] <Warbo> suspekt: E16 yes, KDE no
[11:16] <derek> !Knoppix
[11:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about Knoppix
[11:16] <ideogram> I was very impressed by how easy Ubuntu was to install
[11:16] <kristian> Warbo: Do Ubuntu use .zip files?
[11:16] <Seveas> suspekt, installing kde: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:17] <ideogram> really a huge step forward
[11:17] <derek> !Gaim
[11:17] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[11:17] <kristian> Limewire is a .zip file here...
[11:17] <David42UK> Warbo: it says kernel-sources not found i cannot figure it out
[11:17] <ideogram> I like Gaime a lot
[11:17] <ideogram> I am using it now
[11:17] <ardchoille> Seveas: thank you :)
[11:17] <Warbo> kristian: .zip is just an archive. If this is Limewire then just open it up and run the java program
[11:17] <derek> Sorry Seveas
[11:17] <gnomefreak> derek: im not sure it didnt crash for me
[11:18] <Warbo> David42UK: Do "sudo dpkg -l linux-headers-`uname -r`"
[11:18] <seth_arch> Is there any software firewall on in ubuntu?
[11:18] <gatekeeper> suspekt: I had a look at enlightenment I downloaded OLive and gave it a try, and was extreamly impressed with speed things loaded nice window manager might try it on my test box
[11:18] <Seveas> !firewall
[11:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[11:18] <Seveas> seth_arch, --^
[11:18] <udo> who can i install my adsl usb modem (access runner) in dapper?
[11:18] <seth_arch> 10 4
[11:18] <darkyoshi372> Hi everyone, I'm having trouble syncing with my Palm Tungsten|E. Anyone who could help?
[11:18] <derek> Okay, thanks for trying gnomefreak, I just got Ubuntu yesterday, how do I send PMs on IRC? I'm new, sorry.
[11:18] <ardchoille> derek: /query nick
[11:18] <gnomefreak> derek: register your nick
[11:19] <hou5ton> no kidding .. i've tried it all ... and can't get sound working with Dapper on this laptop ... is someone up for a challenge?
[11:19] <David42UK> I'm using xp, the modem is only working under xp-I cannot download anything with linux
[11:19] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: good catch
[11:19] <gnomefreak> derek: than /msg nick or /query nick
[11:19] <suspekt> I understand you can run enlightenment under gnome by using enlightenment instead of metacity...   while i only sort of understand what that means my question is anyone have any experience /advice?
[11:19] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: ;)
[11:19] <pennypacker> enlightenment is nice
[11:19] <gnomefreak> derek: yes it did
[11:19] <Jack_Sparrow> hou5ton:  you tried alsa  correct
[11:19] <hou5ton> yep
[11:19] <derek> d
[11:19] <hou5ton> and the forum guidelines
[11:19] <Warbo> David42UK: If you look at the Wiki page I have been quite straightforward. Also the headers are on the install disc I think (maybe not desktop CD?)
[11:19] <pennypacker> but metacity is more handy
[11:19] <gnomefreak> derek: please ask before pming me thank you ;)
[11:19] <hou5ton> Jack_Sparrow:  and who knows what all
[11:20] <hou5ton> Jack_Sparrow:  it works with Gnome or other distros
[11:20] <Jack_Sparrow> hou5ton:  what sound card
[11:20] <Warbo> suspekt: Check for an "E-GNOME" option in GDM
[11:20] <derek> Okay sorry gnomefreak
[11:20] <hou5ton> Realtek
[11:20] <rtux> Warbo I was using wine right now. It works very well, however no sound. What do you think I should do first?
[11:20] <seth_arch> Seveas: thank you that fixed my issue
[11:20] <Warbo> rtux: Sorry, I have not used sound in WINE
[11:20] <ardchoille> suspekt: the default window manager in gnome is Metacity. Metacity can easily be replaced by most any other window manager, including enlightenment. I use openbox as my window manager in gnome
[11:20] <David42UK> Warbo: I have read it everywhich way, I have built packages loads of times before, It just will not build
[11:20] <hou5ton> Jack_Sparrow:  or maybe that's the chipset ... it's an Intel ICH5
[11:20] <ideogram> I like sawfish
[11:20] <rtux> ok Warbo. no problem.
[11:20] <ideogram> If you like Emacs you'll love sawfish
[11:21] <rtux> Anybody had SOUND issues in Wine? Please tell me
[11:21] <ardchoille> suspekt: if you're interested in changing the window manager in gnome, /join ##gnome .. they have some instructions for that in their wiki
[11:21] <darkyoshi372> Hi everyone, I'm having trouble syncing with my Palm Tungsten|E. Anyone who could help?
[11:21] <ideogram> only problem is it's not maintained anymore.  But it's quite useable
[11:21] <pennypacker> you will get fed up with wine
[11:21] <pennypacker> 50% doesnt work
[11:21] <Warbo> David42UK: So you are following it exactly? When you say you have done it before, are you using the version I have linked to on the guide (I found that the older versions don;t work)
[11:21] <gatekeeper> suspekt: as enlightenment is a window manager I would have expected that to be one of the alternative that you could run when you logged in if you installed it
[11:22] <kristian> Warbo: I have opened SunJava and now im trying to open Limwire with "sh ./runLime.sh", but "wrong directory".
[11:22] <hou5ton> Jack_Sparrow:  and I've been all through this, with no results: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[11:22] <udo> who can i install my adsl usb modem (access runner) in dapper?
[11:22] <suspekt> so what exactly is metacity?
[11:22] <David42UK> I have tried that version and sagem's own linux driver on their web site-still both configure scripts say 'kernel-sources not found'
[11:22] <hou5ton> Jack_Sparrow:  also .. EasyUbuntu
[11:22] <Warbo> kristian: Try just "java -jar limewire.jar" (or whatever the filename is)
[11:23] <skavenge> kristian: if you installed limewire from the repositories there should be an icon right under 'internet'
[11:23] <Warbo> David42UK: Try "ls /lib/modules/*/build"
[11:23] <ardchoille> suspekt: it's a window manager.. it's used as the window manager in the gnome desktop environment
[11:23] <Jack_Sparrow> hou5ton: If you have tried everything then you can go to the distro that worked or start from the beginning again.. THe only two options I see.
[11:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !easyUbuntu
[11:23] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[11:23] <suspekt> join /gnome
[11:24] <hou5ton> Jack_Sparrow:  well ... those two options are kind of a bummer.  :-)
[11:24] <David42UK> that build directory does not exist in /lib/modules on my dapper install, source is in /usr/src/linux
[11:24] <David42UK> thanks for your help by the way, I do appreciate it
[11:25] <Warbo> suspekt: If you do "export WINDOW_MANAGER=enlightenment" then run "gnome-sessioN" then you will be using E16 (or in my case, I have some newer E16 packages, so I use "e16" instead of "enlightenment")
[11:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Hou5 google your hardware... see what you can find, but sometimes people miss a step somwhere and trying again works when they go slow and read carefully
[11:25] <dwhsix> any suggestions on why sound in Flash player in Firefox stopped working after dapper upgrade?
[11:25] <ardchoille> Warbo: that's what I did :)
[11:25] <Warbo> David42UK: Why is it not in /lib/modules (should be a link in there)?
[11:25] <dwhsix> I've tried some of the items in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b no luck yet
[11:25] <fallen_angel_nic> umm i have a noob questio
[11:25] <fallen_angel_nic> n
[11:26] <gatekeeper> Warbo: is enligtenment an option at login?
[11:26] <David42UK> there is no build directory, I created one as root to try and build ueagle-atm and still nothing
[11:26] <Jack_Sparrow> dwhsix:  there was a guy here this morning that found a /home folder or something was preserved in the upgrade and kept him for having everything work..
[11:26] <ardchoille> suspekt: http://natsci.eckerd.edu/~bordelsr/gnomehelp/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Gnome212.WindowManager
[11:26] <Warbo> dwhsix: Flash uses OSS, os you can;t have any apps using sound when you open FF
[11:26] <fallen_angel_nic> i have burned the iso to a disk and tried to run it, nothing happens....
[11:27] <Jack_Sparrow> fallen_angel_nic: how did you burn it..
[11:27] <Warbo> fallen_angel_nic: Is the iso file on the disc, or did you burn the image (there are loads of files on the disc)
[11:27] <fallen_angel_nic> im getting quite annoyed and i would just like to install xubuntu....how do i go about this
[11:27] <fallen_angel_nic> iso file
[11:27] <Jack_Sparrow> If you read it with windows or ? do you se one file.. the .iso or many files
[11:28] <David42UK> fallen_angel_nic: when u burn the iso, you must burn it as an iso image, otherwise it won't work
[11:28] <fallen_angel_nic> oh...
[11:28] <bobobogu> The following packages have been kept back        linux-image-server
[11:28] <bobobogu> if that happens
[11:28] <Warbo> fallen_angel_nic: Windows can't do it by itself, you will need Nero or something
[11:28] <bobobogu> should i just do apt-get install linux-image-server
[11:28] <Jack_Sparrow> fallen_angel_nic:  A free tool for ISO's in Windows is ISOrecorder.. Fre and works like a charm. just double click an ISO to burn it
[11:28] <bobobogu> ?
[11:28] <fallen_angel_nic> k
[11:28] <fallen_angel_nic> thanks
[11:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !iso
[11:29] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[11:29] <wildman> GGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
[11:29] <wildman> bye bye Germany....
[11:29] <Warbo> David42UK: I have not tried ueagle-atm (but it is supposed to be better)
[11:29] <pennypacker> hehe yes goals
[11:29] <David42UK> italy were the better side
[11:29] <Warbo> wildman: You missed the "A" :)
[11:29] <pennypacker> well played
[11:29] <wildman> sorry ;)
[11:29] <ssuehr> oops
[11:30] <luzy_lu> hey how install spa5xx for my webcam??
[11:30] <wildman> sorry for offtopic ;)
[11:30] <darkyoshi372> Hi everyone, I'm having trouble syncing with my Palm Tungsten|E. Anyone who could help?
[11:30] <kristian> Warbo: Can someone find the LimeWire installpackage name? I'll try to install using command line... :P
[11:30] <bobobogu>  when doing an upgrade apt said: The following packages have been kept back linux-image-server
[11:30] <David42UK> that won't build either, it changes directory to the non existent build directory in lib modules I have never been this stumped
[11:30] <KyoLptp`> How can I access the Multimedia settings?
[11:30] <bobobogu> anyone know why?
[11:30] <gnomefreak> bobobogu: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:31] <gnomefreak> bobobogu: that will install it
[11:31] <Warbo> kristian: easyubuntu or something may give it from a repo. If not then try to Google for a Repo, or maybe use apt-get.org
[11:31] <gnomefreak> bobobogu: use the update-manager too will work ;)
[11:31] <bobobogu> oh
[11:31] <Teqonix> Well, I changed the cables out on the mobo, and I'm still getting the 'Buffer I/O error on device hda' errors. I'll try booting with those flags mentioned earlier..
[11:31] <luzy_lu> hey how install spa5xx for my webcam??
[11:31] <Warbo> David42UK: So you have a folder called /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.xxxxxxxxx?
[11:32] <David42UK> there are problems at the moment with dist-upgrade if you use kubuntu -the ubuntu site now has an iso that will upgrade
[11:32] <bobobogu> gnomefreak: so apt-get install linux-image-server is not the right aproch
[11:32] <David42UK> Warbo: yes with usual symbolic link linux that points to it
[11:32] <gnomefreak> bobobogu: if it being held back its because you ran sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:32] <rtux> This is an error that was generated while configuring sound in Wine with winecfg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d17195 I hope anyone could tell me which libs I should install.
[11:32] <bobobogu> i ran that yeah
[11:33] <gnomefreak> bobobogu: upgrade wont update kernels and some other stuff. to get those you need dist-upgrade
[11:33] <Warbo> David42UK: OK, and you have a link /lib/modules/2.6.xxxxxx/build which also points to it?
[11:33] <suspekt> dad gum there is a lot of fluff that comes with kubuntu
[11:33] <bobobogu> cool
[11:33] <suspekt> i can't bring myself to install all that
[11:33] <fallen_angel_nic> im kinda stupid
[11:33] <fallen_angel_nic> sorry guys
[11:33] <bobobogu> gnomefreak: thanks a heap :)
[11:33] <Tom7e> how do you uninstall apps that you compiled from source?
[11:33] <David42UK> no, is that it? but th configure script has a if-else that also tries /usr/src/linux
[11:34] <gnomefreak> bobobogu: yw
[11:34] <suspekt>  its like /.uninstal ?
[11:34] <wastrel> Tom7e:  try  make uninstall
[11:34] <Jack_Sparrow> fallen_angel_nic:  I just got back.. Did you still need help
[11:34] <fallen_angel_nic> its  so much easyer to install linux on an ipod
[11:34] <Tom7e> wastrel:  where?
[11:34] <Warbo> Tom7e: You did use checkinstall didn;t you? If not then you can go to the source directory (or redownload and configure it if you deleted it) then "sudo make uninstall"
[11:34] <kristian> I don't understand... I can't find limewire in apt-get.org. It's so hard just to isntall it? Why not: sudo apt-get install limewire?
[11:34] <wastrel> Tom7e:  in the source folder where you did the make install
[11:34] <David42UK> make uninstall, but you need the original source code. try using 'paco' or build a debian package
[11:35] <rtux> This is an error that was generated while configuring sound in Wine with winecfg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d17195 I hope anyone could tell me which libs I should install.
[11:35] <Tom7e> Warbo:  ok, i have to redownload then, never thought to keep source.  plus it seems a waste of space.
[11:35] <bobobogu> gnomefreak: ok now I have another problem
[11:35] <garryF> !info limeware
[11:35] <ubotu> Package limeware does not exist in dapper
[11:35] <gnomefreak> bobobogu: anything
[11:35] <Warbo> Tom7e: Use checkinstall or soemthing to make a package which you can treat in the usual way
[11:35] <vy2wu> hello all
[11:36] <David42UK> use frostwire it's better than limewire
[11:36] <Tom7e> Warbo:  does checkinstall make a deb?
[11:36] <Warbo> Tom7e: Yes
[11:36] <gnomefreak> Tom7e: yes
[11:36] <gnomefreak> most of time
[11:36] <vy2wu> have a question
[11:36] <Tom7e> Warbo:  it will then appear in my Add/Remove?
[11:36] <bobobogu> I did a control c to my apt-get install linux-image-server just as it got to the unpacking stage
[11:36] <garryF> !info frostware
[11:36] <ubotu> Package frostware does not exist in dapper
[11:36] <Warbo> Tom7e: Probably not. It will be in Synaptic though (the "advanced" button)
[11:36] <garryF> huh?
[11:36] <dwhsix> !flash
[11:36] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:36] <garryF> Dare I try info ubuntu?
[11:36] <Seveas> frostwIre, not frostwAre
[11:36] <Tom7e> ok thanks
[11:36] <pinky> Where can I find an Ubuntu repository for amarok 1.4.1?
[11:37] <gnomefreak> bobobogu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[11:37] <grubchub> is "daper" the code name for the current release of ubuntu?
[11:37] <Seveas> pinky, kubuntu.org
[11:37] <vy2wu> how do I get rid of a lock on my system?
[11:37] <bobobogu> now when i try to do dist-upgrade it says dpkg was interupted ....etc
[11:37] <Seveas> grubchub, it's "dapper"
[11:37] <David42UK> dapper is
[11:37] <garryF> JUst do info and the package you want to know ehre it is.
[11:37] <bobobogu> cool
[11:37] <grubchub> doh :p
[11:37] <Jack_Sparrow> System Admin Synaptic
[11:37] <Tom7e> Warbo:  do I need to ./configure, and make before make uninstall?
[11:37] <Warbo> !info frostwire
[11:37] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in dapper
[11:37] <fallen_angel_nic> linux is easy right?
[11:37] <David42UK> vy2wu: what package created the lock file
[11:37] <Seveas> !info coreutils
[11:37] <ubotu> coreutils: The GNU core utilities. In repository main, is required. Version 5.93-5ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 1284 kB, installed size 8228 kB
[11:37] <pinky> Seveas: there is a repo at kubuntu.org?
[11:37] <Warbo> OK, I'll stick to gtk-gnutella then
[11:38] <Seveas> !info frostwire edgy
[11:38] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in edgy
[11:38] <gnomefreak> fallen_angel_nic: its a learning experience
[11:38] <kaw69> Hi warbo
[11:38] <Seveas> hmm
[11:38] <garryF> !info amarok
[11:38] <Warbo> Tom7e: ./configure then make uninstall
[11:38] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 7630 kB, installed size 18672 kB
[11:38] <gnomefreak> Seveas: frostwire isnt in apt in any
[11:38] <Seveas> gnomefreak, ah, my bad
[11:38] <gnomefreak> ;)
[11:38] <vy2wu> I will check.
[11:38] <Jack_Sparrow> grubchub: "Code Name" Yes Dapper, and after the install we teach you the secret handshake
[11:38] <gnomefreak> !frostwire
[11:38] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:39] <gnomefreak> if someone was looking for it
[11:39] <grubchub> hehe jack :)
[11:39] <Warbo> fallen_angel_nic: Regular stuff is fine (sometimes easier than Windows). Just that if you get a problem then it can get hard (but pretty much ALWAYS possible to fix somehow)
[11:39] <rpedro> pinky: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main
[11:39] <grubchub> is red text in x-chat a prive message?
[11:39] <fallen_angel_nic> cool
[11:39] <grubchub> private
[11:39] <rpedro> pinky: add that to sources.list
[11:39] <grubchub> bah! i can't type today
[11:39] <gnomefreak> grubchub: no red is just someones talking blue is for you
[11:39] <pinky> rpedro: Thanks!  This'll work with regular Ubuntu and not Kubuntu too, right?
[11:39] <grubchub> ah okay
[11:39] <David42UK> red text just means a message happened on that channel
[11:39] <gnomefreak> grubchub: last i remember
[11:39] <fallen_angel_nic> its just i have 2 hard drives i want one to run lin the other windows
[11:39] <fallen_angel_nic> woot
[11:40] <amarokker> Hi, can anyone try and see if you can access this: http://fcn.twilightparadox.com/ - my web server. want to check if its working
[11:40] <garryF> !the answers you really need to know today!
[11:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about the answers you really need to know today!
[11:40] <Jack_Sparrow> grub. not private, just directed to you
[11:40] <rpedro> pinky: yep, using it right now with gnome ;)
[11:40] <kaw69> Hi warbo
[11:40] <Jack_Sparrow> grubchub:  not private, just directed to you
[11:40] <pinky> rpedro: Cool! Thanks a lot!  What about libvisual 0.4?
[11:40] <Warbo> kaw69: Hi. Is your account registered?
[11:40] <Jack_Sparrow> grubchub:  full name of user turns the line red just for your eyes
[11:40] <wastrel> amarokker:  no route to host
[11:40] <malavar> hey does it matter what torrent program i use as far connection speed is concerned?
[11:41] <kaw69> Don`t know
[11:41] <rpedro> pinky: just checked now, and the repository doesn't yet have version 1.4.1 , just 1.4.0a
[11:41] <Jack_Sparrow> grubchub: use the tab key to complete the user name
[11:41] <pinky> Ah, libvisual 0.4 is only for 1.4.1 and that's just 1.4.0a
[11:41] <garryF> Far as I know, it don't really mater much.
[11:41] <Warbo> kaw69: Register it and I can private message you (go into offtopic first)
[11:41] <malavar> garryF u talking to me?
[11:41] <amarokker> wastrel: - ah, ok- just checking :)
[11:41] <garryF> except it might improve my typing.
[11:41] <David42UK> ktorrent is good, but isps don't like bittorrent
[11:41] <rpedro> pinky: maybe you need to compile from source if you want, or wait till they upload it
[11:41] <malavar> ok
[11:41] <grubchub> Jack_Sparrow, sweet :)
[11:41] <pinky> rpedro: Will the repo you sent me get 1.4.1 and libvisual 0.4 at the same time?
[11:41] <grubchub> kinda like in the console
[11:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Thats it
[11:41] <grubchub> :)
[11:42] <garryF> say malavar yes.
[11:42] <amarokker> David42UK: doesnt bittornado has something to thwart ISPs blocking bittorrent service?
[11:42] <fallen_angel_nic> i must poof
[11:42] <fallen_angel_nic> good bye
[11:42] <amarokker> i suppose it doesnt work that well, does it?
[11:42] <fallen_angel_nic> thanks
[11:42] <amonkey> how can i resolve libglib2.0-dev's dependency on libglib2.0-0 (2.10.2-1ubuntu3) without removing ubuntu-desktop as it depends on libglib2.0-0 (2.10.3-0ubuntu1)?
[11:42] <suspekt> just do like i do, call comcast techinicall support and say 'when my torrent server is running your connection service sucks. fix it'
[11:42] <kaw69> where`s off topic
[11:42] <garryF> Ok, I better get off Irc, I can't type today.
[11:42] <Set> can someone tell me what the official repositories for Ubuntu are?
[11:42] <wastrel> amonkey:  you can remove ubuntu-desktop, it is a wrapper package, removal will not affect your system
[11:42] <Warbo> kaw69: Buddy List>Buddies>Join Chat> Put in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:43] <David42UK> amarokker: if you encrypt it yes, they can't see the tell tale bitttorent stream
[11:43] <gnomefreak> kaw69: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:43] <suspekt> does azures have that feature?
[11:43] <amonkey> wastrel, how often does it get updated? will i miss out on updates down the road if i remove it? i know it won't have an immediate effect.
[11:43] <rpedro> pinky: no idea wath libvisual is, and the repo still only has amarok 1.4.0a
[11:43] <grubchub> in a attempt to install xubuntu I borked my system and lost my book mark to what seemed like an awesome wikiwquickstart guide (i don't think it was wikiguide) anyone have any clue what it might have been?
[11:44] <vy2wu> cheers all, have to deal with dinner
[11:44] <wastrel> amonkey:  it is just a wrapper, which pulls other "real" packages, the real packages will be updated individually.  ubuntu-desktop will never be updated
[11:44] <gnomefreak> rpedro: amarok 1.4.1 is not yet out on servers
[11:44] <grubchub> Provided some awesome one liner cli commands to get PHP, MYSQL,  Apache, and MySQLAdmin and and running
[11:44] <Set> can someone tell me what the official repositories for Ubuntu are?
[11:44] <grubchub> or MyPHPAdmin
[11:44] <grubchub> I always forgot what it's called because everyone renames the dir :p
[11:44] <gnomefreak> !repos > Set
[11:44] <amarokker> rpedro: but i think you can get it from the repo mentioned in the source-o-matic thingy.
[11:45] <amonkey> wastrel, ah.
[11:45] <amarokker> havent checked yet- its still 1.4.0 here too
[11:45] <amonkey> can i disable PCMCIA services if i'm on a desktop with no pc card slot? if so, how?
[11:45] <rpedro> pinky: read what amarokker said
[11:45] <gnomefreak> amonkey: 1.4.1 hasnt been released
[11:45] <rpedro> !source-o-matic > pinky
[11:46] <amonkey> gnomefreak, of?
[11:46] <rpedro> gnomefreak: it has, says so on amarok.kde.org
[11:46] <gnomefreak> amonkey: sorry not you i meant amarokker
[11:46] <khafra> I had to get my motherboard fixed, and seem to have to reinstall Ubuntu
[11:46] <khafra> Can I access my old RAID 0 drive?
[11:46] <suspekt> aie thats a good question amonkey...    on a windows system i know how to tweak the rig to get the most performance out of it (by basically turning off half the ms bloat) and what not....     how do i do all that stuff in ubuntu?
[11:46] <khafra> Or, "How do I recover a RAID 0 drive, which is presumably undamaged but not recognized by the new system"
[11:47] <David42UK> amonkey: you probably have a process that starts pcmcia services at start, you need to disable it in say kcontrol or whatever gives you access
[11:47] <gnomefreak> rpedro: http://kubuntu.org/
[11:47] <gnomefreak> rpedro: kde.org is not for ubuntu
[11:47] <gnomefreak> its for kde only
[11:47] <amarokker> moi? heh. ok- yeah, i asked a few days ago at #amarok too- they mentioned getting it out of the SVN- was too much trouble for me though
[11:47] <amonkey> kcontrol would be kde, am i looking for gcontrol?
[11:48] <rpedro> gnomefreak: yes ok, I was just saying it's released even though not yet a package for kubuntu
[11:48] <khafra> How do I access my old raid 0 drive?
[11:48] <khafra> It was a soft raid
[11:48] <David42UK> amonkey: not sure there it will be the package that lets u configure your system
[11:48] <gnomefreak> rpedro: correct and there is a few people that have a repo of it floating around but last i heard that it was not ready for ubuntu
[11:50] <Petecakes> So my earlier problem of the live CD not booting, but I have two further problems, which someone can hopefully help me with: My resolution is stuck at 640x480, and even though eth0 is reported as being active and all my modem lights are on, I can't connect to the internet
[11:50] <Petecakes> Any ideas?
[11:50] <khafra> Never mind, punters, I figured it out myself.
[11:50] <dwhsix> blegh - is uninstalling firefox a problem?  synaptic says that will also remove ubuntu-desktop... :-)
[11:51] <chaos_of_apocaly> can anyone tell me what to use to compile progs in assembly?
[11:51] <Warbo> dwhsix: Ubuntu-desktop is not needed
[11:51] <dwhsix> ok - seemed to say it was useful for upgrades and such
[11:51] <ubuntu_Iz> i need help with changing permissions for my apache directory
[11:51] <dwhsix> I really like ubuntu's automatic pkg/upgrade mgmt... would hate to mess it up
[11:52] <Warbo> dwhsix: Yes, reinstall it for a dist-upgrade but you don't need it for day-to-day use
[11:52] <rpedro> gnomefreak , pinky: link for amarok latest 1.4.1 >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok#head-04cd071d84f1f106cb3a6f6f15b86a29f1c2aed7
[11:53] <Aven> Hello
[11:53] <Aven> my PC kept rebooting saying it is overheated
[11:53] <Aven> er, shutting down I mean
[11:53] <Aven> what can cause that?
[11:53] <Aven> fans are working
[11:54] <ubuntu_Iz> mine was doing that too
[11:54] <ubuntu_Iz> someone suggested that maybe it was a problem with the acpi daemon
[11:54] <gnomefreak> ty rpedro i will keep that in mind (wish i could use it)
[11:54] <Aven> what's that? :P
[11:54] <ubuntu_Iz> power management
[11:55] <wastrel> Petecakes:  modem lights are different from ethernet card lights - i assume you mean the link light on your NIC?
[11:55] <Aven> ah
[11:55] <ubuntu_Iz> i was told to try shutting down the acpi daemon like so: sudo /etc/init.d/acpid stop
[11:55] <ubuntu_Iz> it works for me
[11:55] <satafterh> anyone know of a good pitcure editing software for linux?
[11:56] <ubuntu_Iz> gimp?
[11:56] <jrib> satafterh: gimp
[11:56] <Aven> ubuntu_Iz: ah ok
[11:56] <Aven> stopped it, heh
[11:56] <satafterh> thx
[11:56] <Petecakes> wastrel - My ethernet modem is plugged into an ethernet port on my PC, there's no "link light" that I know of, bar the power, DSL, ethernet and internet lights on my modem
[11:56] <ubuntu_Iz> give it a try, as long as your fans are working
[11:56] <Jack_Sparrow> How do I enable direct rendering in Nvidia?
[11:56] <Petecakes> Unless I'm just being a total n00b on this one.
[11:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia
[11:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:56] <Warbo> Jack_Sparrow: DRI?
[11:56] <Aven> ubuntu_Iz: I'm afraid my fans might be having issues, although what's the worse that can happen?
[11:56] <Jack_Sparrow> warbo, my glsgears is real slow
[11:56] <grubchub> does anyone have xgl running on ubuntu?
[11:56] <pinky> rpedro: Well I need libvisual 0.4 if I do that, right?
[11:57] <Jack_Sparrow> others are showing 10 times faster
[11:57] <jrib> !xgl
[11:57] <ubuntu_Iz> it would over heat i guess if your fans didnt work
[11:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:57] <wastrel> Petecakes:  you mean your dsl modem then?  do you have a pppoe connection for your dsl?
[11:57] <grubchub> thank jrib :)
[11:57] <Petecakes> wastrel - yes.
[11:57] <Warbo> Jack_Sparrow: I was going to say that DRI is not implemented in nvidia driver (but direct rendering does)
[11:57] <pharcvde> has anyone been successful with joss and quake3?
[11:57] <ubuntu_Iz> i keep this pc up for weeks with the acpi daemon shut down
[11:57] <ubuntu_Iz> seems to be ok
[11:57] <pinky> rpedro: That's cool, and yeah I'd like to get 1.4.1, but I need my projectM... so I need libvisual 0.4, too, right?
[11:57] <amonkey> how can i get libfreetype6 2.2? libgtk2.0-dev depends on it in a roundabout way.
[11:58] <wastrel> Petecakes:  have you set up your dsl connection in System > Administration > Networking  ?
[11:58] <tony_> hi all! need help! background where ther is no text in some apps - (maybe kde apps )such as xchat and klibido is black even thought it is not set as black. http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/4778/xchat8gx.jpg
[11:58] <tony_> how can i change this?
[11:59] <Petecakes> Wastrel - Yes. But now that you mention it, it could be that I messed that up, so now I need to go alllll the way back into ubuntu to check that out again. brb
[11:59] <rpedro> pinky: i don't know, sorry , the latest version for package libvisual on ubuntu is 0.2
[11:59] <wastrel> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE   Petecakes  check the wiki page here
[11:59] <ubuntu_Iz> aven: you post on searchirc.com?
[11:59] <wastrel> for adsl/pppoe info
[11:59] <grubchub> if apt-get gets stuck on some dependancies, how do you usually go about installing them?
[11:59] <grubchub> do you usually search the web?
[12:00] <Aven> ubuntu_Iz: yeah
[12:00] <Chetic> How do I change what sound device is default?
[12:00] <ubuntu_Iz> i thought that nick looked familure
[12:00] <Knome> use "apt-get build-dep <packagename>"
[12:00] <grubchub> ah ha :)