Hawkwinduniq: Then once I remove those I assume I don't need to do that apt-get command you just gave me, correct ?12:08
uniqhawkwind: you still have to do it, as it is downgrading to the correct dapper version.12:08
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bluesceadahow can i install other software with kubuntu??12:09
bluesceadathere seems not to be a package manager which can do that12:09
bluesceadaand i also dont know how i could update12:09
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Hawkwinduniq: Ok.  Do I need to do a similar command for libcairo2-dev ?12:09
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uniqhawkwind: probably, check with 'apt-cache madison libcairo2-dev' get the one from the ubuntu.com archives.  with 'sudo apt-get install packagename=version12:10
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Hawkwinduniq: Many thanks.  Things are back to normal again :)12:12
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Hawkwinduniq: Can you explain to me what exactly this 'madison' flag/command is since I'm new to the apt-get world ?12:12
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sponixKubuntu/KDE is really rocking, not sure why gnome is default :P12:12
sponixKDE is not only faster, but does things gnome would only dream of12:13
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uniqhawkwind: it basically shows a list of versions of a package, and where it comes from.12:13
Hawkwinduniq: Ok, gotcha.  Thanks again for the help as this surely fixed the issue12:13
notechi wasn't aware kubuntu came with gnome12:13
uniqhawkwind: you're welcome. Please spread the word to the others with the same problem. :)12:14
D4m4gewhat is the command to unlog the user under kubuntu please?12:14
Hawkwinduniq: Definitely.  I'm about to document it in my Kubuntu section of my http://LinuxForDummies.org/ forum :)12:14
uniqd4m4ge: 'exit' or 'logout'12:14
uniqhawkwind: great :)12:15
|lostbyte|!info clean12:15
ubotuPackage clean does not exist in dapper12:15
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Hawkwinduniq: I've also commented out the compiz/XGL sources since I have no use for that stuff :)12:16
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uniqhawkwind: then you should probably run 'sudo apt-get update' if you haven't done it yet, to remove the references to those evil archives from the apt-get database.12:17
D4m4geuniq exit closes the konsole, and logout asks me to rather use exit :/12:17
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uniqd4m4ge: where do you run the command?12:17
Hawkwinduniq: Yep did that as well already :)12:17
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D4m4gein the konsole12:17
D4m4genot with sudo, should i try with sudo12:17
uniqd4m4ge: you want a command to write in konsole, that executes a logout similar to kmenu -> logout?12:18
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D4m4geuniq exactly :)12:18
D4m4gebecause i have a problem with my mouse, i have crashes/freezes when i use the Kmenu12:19
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:19
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D4m4geand also when i launch applications frome the graphical menu12:19
D4m4gei am waiting a receiver compatible with usb for my logitech MX100012:19
D4m4gebecause mine is one of the "bugged" serie logitech made12:20
D4m4genot compatible with usb12:20
D4m4gethey are shipping a new one for me12:20
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Eazy-anyone knows if this HowTo for wine works in Dapper? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996&highlight=cedega+cvs12:21
uniqd4m4ge: try 'killall kdeinit' to logout KDE.12:21
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D4m4gethx uniq i'll try it in a few minutes12:23
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Eazy-well, that will be a projekt for tomorrow then :P12:23
G|assiusi need some help getting software mixing working correctly...it seems to be working fine except for amarok. I'm able to play sound simultaneously with i.e. XMMS & kaffeine but amarok does not play nice with others12:24
uniqd4m4ge: there is also 'dcop kdesktop default logout' you can try.12:24
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G|assiusif any program is running except amarok i get a "the void engine claims it cannot play mp3 files", but it works fine if its the only sound application running12:24
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G|assiusso if i got kaffeine running, even if it's not playing anything amarok wont work, but if i close kaffeine amarok works...any ideas?12:26
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crimsunthat's because amarok uses xine-lib by default, and xine-lib doesn't honor ~/.asoundrc|/etc/asound.conf. It insists on grabbing hw:foo directly, which means that it bypasses alsa-lib, which means that dmix doesn't work.12:27
uniqd4m4ge: you can also try 'dcop ksmserver ksmserver logout 0 0 0 '. If you want to reboot the machine after logout you have 'dcop ksmserver ksmserver logout 0 1 1'12:27
D4m4geok thanks12:27
uniqthe killall example is the ugliest. the dcop ones are more elegant. depending on what you want.12:28
zardozG|assius: I found amarok does not play nice with others usinf xine12:28
uniqnow, it's bedtime for me. nite.12:28
thompaBhere i go again12:28
D4m4geuniq i want the cleanest way to delog, otherwise ctrl+alt+backspace works well, but i'm afraid it's a bit brutal...12:28
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thompaBthe new dell windows disks got spyware or worse12:29
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thompaBi only got one program i need from crappy windus12:30
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thompaBi own the windows licence 10 times on these crap machines and it says it wants me to pay more12:31
thompaBand sony sucks12:32
bluesceadasony of course does in most things.... except for using linux on ps3 ...12:32
RawSewagewhats windows12:32
RawSewageoh nm, I remember12:32
RawSewageI used to use that12:32
bluesceadait's f*cking hard to use os!12:32
bluesceadathey dont even have a package managment12:33
bluesceadaand updates are just once a month12:33
bluesceadayou also need to install all stuff separately via extra discs etc.12:33
thompaBim tired of calling them with their stupid activation numbers just because i change hardware12:33
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RawSewageWindows updates are usually: patch up a hole, or add more programs to monitor and control the user12:33
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bluesceadaa question12:34
thompaBxp would not take a low level fat32 format12:34
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bluesceadadoes the hibernate etc. stuff work for notebooks??12:34
thompaBi had then page file errors and crap12:34
bluesceadaRawSewage: :( why not12:34
bluesceadathe option is there12:34
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RawSewagelaptop support sucks still12:34
RawSewagetheyre working on it for Edgy12:34
bluesceadai dunno if i shall try it out12:34
thompaBi think windows is illegal12:34
bluesceadathere is standbye mode and hibernate12:34
thompaBnow is the time to move on them12:34
RawSewageit works for some laptops, but not all12:34
bluesceadaRawSewage: why do they offer the options then??12:35
bluesceadamaybe i could.. .try out?12:35
RawSewagetry it out12:35
RawSewageor wait until November12:35
thompaBwhy do i have to pay twice for a licence12:35
RawSewagefor Edgy Eft12:35
bluesceadaRawSewage: i first try to look if my dsdt of the acpi is correct or not12:35
RawSewageit's a privelege12:35
bluesceadai first read/try this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ACPIBattery12:35
RawSewageit might work on yours12:36
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thompaBpanera is not so bad fek off12:38
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HowitzerDoes anyone here know Rainlendar for Windows?12:44
Howitzerit was this desktop widget-like progra12:45
Howitzer*it was this desktop widget-like program that had a calendar, to-do box and event-box12:45
Howitzeri've been looking for months for something alike for linux12:46
TheHighChildHowitzer: You check out SuperKaramba?12:46
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Howitzerbut i want something i can edit on the fly12:46
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto12:46
edulixhow can I play music in amarok while record with audacity?12:47
edulixbecause it doesn't seem to work out of the box12:47
edulix"device busy" says audacity12:47
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edulixsame with krecord12:47
TheHighChildHowitzer: http://godiane.wordpress.com/2006/03/06/gdesklets-a-rainlendar-alternative-for-linux/12:47
larson9999Howitzer: i have one of those.  i call it 'Yes, Dear'12:48
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Howitzerlarson9999, i don't get it12:48
Howitzeris it a joke?12:48
TheHighChildHowitzer: It's for Gnome but should work under kde. I am still looking around12:48
larson9999my 'calendar, to-do box and event-box'12:49
larson9999Howitzer: yes, a joke12:49
Howitzernot funny :<12:49
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Howitzertried it a few months ago12:50
Howitzersucked up memory like a leak12:50
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OODedulix: how'd you even get audacity working?12:51
edulixOOD: when amarok is not playing it works fine to me. using xine engine12:52
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epwhat version am I running?12:52
TheHighChildedulix: Are they trying to use the same sound engine at the same time?12:52
OODonly alsa is able to play and record at the same time i beleive12:52
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edulixi don'0t what are they trying, but it doesn't work. amarok uses xine with alsa, i don't know what does audacity use12:53
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OODedulix: did you compile audacity?12:54
edulixno, installed from aptitude12:56
epHow do I determine the kubuntu version installed... something similar to 'uname -o'12:56
thompaBNoatun seems to work for playing cds12:57
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larson9999uname -r or uname -a will tell you12:59
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OODanyone know what is the command to chose which compiler to use during configure?01:00
crimsunexport CC (and possibly CXX, too)01:00
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crimsune.g., export CC=gcc-3.4 CXX=g++-3.401:01
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crimsunor specify directly, e.g., CC=gcc-3.4 CXX=g++-3.4 ./configure [..] 01:01
OODthanks, that worked01:01
ash-foxIs there any reason why I cannot get x application to run from a root console even though I did a "xhost +localhost"?01:01
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h3sp4wnash-fox: just use kdesu appname01:03
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ash-foxh3sp4wn, the console output is bugged then however. It displays one character per line.01:04
h3sp4wnash-fox: You could try setting DISPLAY=
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ash-foxHm, I have a feeling this is probably a issue caused by 'selinux'01:08
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ash-foxWhat is the kernel parameter to disable selinux? selinux=0 ?01:09
senseiash-fox: yes01:10
senseiJust be absolutely sure you won't use it again01:11
senseiSince enabling it could require recovery01:11
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senseiash-fox: You could set SELINUX=disabled in the conf as an alternative01:11
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ash-foxWhich conf would that be?01:11
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Mongeyi need help with xgl01:13
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:13
OODyou should go to the xgl channel then01:15
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Mongeystupid pastebin01:16
edulixnow i fixed my problem with audacity & amarok - just imported the song i wanted in audacity and started to use only audacity01:16
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edulixit's a pitty that I've yet to see a open source kde app like audacity - anyone?01:16
h3sp4wnTried rosegarden ?01:16
senseiash-fox: The selinux one01:18
h3sp4wnedulix: http://www.kde-apps.org/index.php?xcontentmode=22001:18
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edulixlet's see rosegarden :)01:18
abattoirit has a beautiful splash :P01:20
OODis it good? i migh check it out01:20
h3sp4wnare you using rosegarden4 or just rosegarden ?01:20
abattoirh3sp4wn: me? i've never had a need for it, just tried it once, that's all :)01:22
abattoiri think it was rosegarden401:22
ash-foxh3sp4wn, hm, odd, isn't selinux's config usually located in /etc/selinux/config ?01:22
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h3sp4wnI have never used selinux if I need security I would use freebsd or openbsd (depending on how much security I needed)01:23
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ash-foxI was under the assumption that ubuntu has this enabled by default?01:23
ash-foxAh, nevermind then =)01:23
TheHighChildubuntu has very few secutiry features enabled01:23
OODaudacity works :D01:23
OODgot it working01:24
h3sp4wnAlot of stuff needs to be patched for selinux01:24
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edulixwhat's the difference between rosegarden{,2,4} ?01:24
h3sp4wnrosegarden4 uses jackd (which I haven't successfully managed to get working properly with kubuntu)01:24
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crimsunash-fox: because that's The Right Thing To Do.01:25
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edulixh3sp4wn: : and bettween rosegarden and rosegarden2?01:25
crimsunif you're not using kdesu or gksu{,do}, then you need to use xauth to merge the cookies.01:25
ash-foxIt's also a pain when kdesu scrambles debugging output of programs that must be ran as a super user.01:25
Philip5edulix: if you like audiocity and what alternatives then you have both rezound and sweep01:25
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h3sp4wnedulix: I have only used rosegarden4 (under sid on a seperate partition with jackd)01:26
edulixPhilip5: for what I use, audacity is enough xd01:26
edulixh3sp4wn: ok. rosegarden package automatically installs rosegarden201:26
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h3sp4wnedulix: What exactly are you trying to use audacity for ?01:27
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ubuntu_Hi i've got problems installing to hard disk , says no root?01:28
edulixjust to record sound from the micro syncronized with an mp3 song01:28
edulixh3sp4wn: rosegarden2 is an hypertext tool lol01:29
OOD you might want jack for that01:29
h3sp4wnI have never managed to get jack working properly on kubuntu the sound always stutters01:29
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h3sp4wnOOD: Have you got jackd working properly (i.e with under 5ms latency)01:31
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TheHighChildanyone use Gnump3d or have experience with xmms and .m3u playlists?01:31
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OODh3sp4wn: i doubt my integrated card is capable of that kind of low latency01:31
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dr_williswhats to experience? :P load playlist and play....01:32
sysrpli have a problem installing libcario2-dev  which also goes to the libfreetype6 package ... can someone please advise me on what to try next? here is a thread with the error messages i am getting http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20920001:32
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TheHighChilddr_willis: It loads up the .m3u file but freezes when I try to play anything01:33
crimsunsysrpl: are you using dapper or edgy?01:33
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crimsunsysrpl: are you using /only/ ubuntu repos?01:34
dr_willisTheHighChild,  have it make/save a playlist and see if ti can load it then.01:34
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sysrpli have the multiverse enabled01:34
OODh3sp4wn: i haven't extensively tried using jackd (waiting t'ill my music program works in wine :P)01:34
crimsunsysrpl: that's a ubuntu repo. I meant "Are you using any special non-Ubuntu repos to get Xgl, etc.?"01:35
TheHighChilddr_willis: I already have the playlist, Gnump3d generates one. i've saved it and opened it up in xmms. It loads fine and I can navigate my files but it freezes when I initiate play. Perhaps I've misunderstood your suggestion01:35
sysrpli don't think so, no01:35
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dr_willisTheHighChild,  have xmms make the list.. if that list workjs.. then it sounds like some issue with gnump3d01:35
crimsunsysrpl: yes you are01:36
crimsunsysrpl: dapper doesn't have cairo 1.2.001:36
TheHighChilddr_willis: oh ok. i gotcha. I'll have to do then when I am local to the media files.01:36
crimsunsysrpl: apt-cache policy libcairo201:36
sysrplso ...01:36
TheHighChilddr_willis: the playlist that gnump3d creates plays fine in amarok.01:36
crimsunon pastebin, tell me the output from that command01:36
dr_willisTheHighChild,  that proves it works in amarok then. :P01:37
sysrplInstalled: 1.0.4-0ubuntu1 Candidate: 1.2.0-0ubuntu01:37
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crimsunsysrpl: on pastebin, please.01:38
sysrplpastbin url please?01:38
crimsunsysrpl: see the topic.01:38
crimsunsysrpl: and also, apt-cache policy libfreetype601:39
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crimsunsysrpl: git rid of those beerorkid/xgl.compiz.info repos, update, and try again.01:41
crimsunthis is definitely a FAQ01:41
sysrpland http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1719901:42
D4m4gecan someone give me the lines to add to the sources.list for KDE and Amarok01:42
D4m4gethe ones i got on the website give me a 404 error01:42
sysrplwhats the path to sources.list?01:42
crimsunthe ones on the Web site work fine for me, D4m4ge01:43
h3sp4wnD4m4ge: "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main" "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main"01:43
crimsunsysrpl: /etc/apt/sources.list01:43
D4m4gethank you h3sp4wn01:44
D4m4geh3sp4wn where did you get them?01:44
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h3sp4wnD4m4ge: kubuntu.org01:45
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sysrplokay sudo apt-get update ... and try apt-get install again or apt-cahce policy?01:46
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korozionanyone had troubles with xine-engine stuff 'skipping'?01:46
sysrplcrimson: which one?01:47
h3sp4wnkorozion: Not after I stopped using artsd01:47
korozionhrm, I should try that again01:47
korozionhowever, it used to work :(01:47
h3sp4wnI am not that bothered because the kde system sounds annoy me anyway01:48
sysrplapt-get install libgtk2.0-dev works now01:48
korozionditto :)01:48
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TheHighChildHow much CPU should gam_server be using? Anyone know?01:51
abattoirTheHighChild: it has been annoying me lately too, w/ high uptime it also uses a lot of RAM :-\01:52
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sysrplconfigure:26327: checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.4.4 ... what package would this be in?01:52
fladdhello all together!01:52
TheHighChildabattoir: It's not using much memory here, 0.5 in top but it's CPU usage is around 10%.01:53
MrObvioussysrpl: What are you trying to compile?01:53
sysrplright now i am running ./configure on gimpshop01:53
fladdi am in search for a program that enables me to extract the sound from a video file. does anybody know where to look?01:53
abattoirTheHighChild: hmmm.. i just do a 'sudo killall gam_server' and then everything returns to normal, but then starts about 24 hours later01:54
MrObviousgimpshop? Isn't that related to the gimp?01:54
dr_willisgimp with rearanged menus01:54
abattoirTheHighChild: it uses about 15% CPU01:54
sysrplit's a front end replacement for gimp01:54
h3sp4wndr_willis: Do you use xchat ?01:54
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sysrpldoesn't it also change the ui?01:55
MrObviousOh. It's not in the repos :|01:55
dr_willish3sp4wn,  yep.01:55
MrObviousYou might see if it's makable into a deb01:55
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h3sp4wndr_willis: How can I get url's to open in firefox instead of konqueror do you know ?01:55
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lowtechwould still need the proper gtk MrObvious01:56
MrObviouslowtech: I'm just suprised it's not on Ubuntu01:56
fladdmmh, obviously nobody :-) anyway, i have another question: how to change the name for my drives? they are called 10gb-Medium and so on, but I want them to be called hda1...01:56
dr_willish3sp4wn,  i think theres a setting in the menus somewhere.. i rember the OLD days xchat dident try t be as user friendly and added a open in... item with each browser..01:56
TheHighChildabattoir: What OS are you running?01:56
MrObvioussysrpl: You might try apt-cache search gtk | grep dev01:56
dr_willisnow a days seems 90% of the xchat menus are now missing.01:56
abattoirTheHighChild: Dapper01:56
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eXCeSSin firefox, when you click the top right circle thing, how do i make that go to the firefox homepage, not the 'about me' of my distro?01:57
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TheHighChildabattoir: Which version of gamin areyou running?01:57
abattoirTheHighChild: sometimes .xsessionrc is also filled w/ messages about FAM server errors01:57
abattoirTheHighChild: one second01:58
lowtechsettings > advanced > url handlers iirc01:58
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TheHighChildabattoir: 0.1.7 is supposed to fix some memory leaks. It's for Gnome so i am considerin getting rid of it, not sure if I can though.01:59
bioticproNeed help with epson printer tools... can't access anything except clean print head or print test pattern01:59
abattoiri have 0.1.7-201:59
OODhow would i be able to edit the meta info of a deb package?01:59
bioticproOther things in Epson tools give an error about no such file or directory02:00
bioticproCan someone help please02:00
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abattoirTheHighChild: i thought kdirwatch or something depended on it.. that's what i was told by someone iirc, though i fail to understand why02:01
abattoirTheHighChild: however killing gam_server has caused no side effects that i have noticed02:01
TheHighChildabattoir: yeah, def don't remove it. Lol I've got some repair work now02:01
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abattoirTheHighChild: i was just about to experiment ;)02:02
TheHighChildabattoir: Yeah, don't lol02:02
TheHighChildabattoir: You figure out which version you have?02:04
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abattoirtold you, 0.1.7-2ubuntu102:04
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TheHighChildabattoir: Sorry, must have missed it02:05
abattoirTheHighChild: nah, no problem :)02:05
abattoirTheHighChild: i am just curious as to what happened when you removed/attempted to remove gamin ;)02:05
TheHighChildabattoir: Well, Adept was going and Konq-plugins. i aborted at that point02:06
TheHighChildabattoir: had to configure -a and reinstall those packages. Nothing major but who knows what else it was going to take with it02:07
abattoirTheHighChild: lol02:07
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TheHighChildabattoir: It's odd. On my home server, it uses 0 CPU and very minimal ram but on my laptop with 1/10 of the files and space available it runs at 10% CPU02:09
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RaitoIt doesn't really bother me, but I am wondering why Azureus has no icon, in the system tray it is blank but you can rightclick the blankness to see its stats. Also on the window there is an X. How come I can't see the frog?02:10
abattoirTheHighChild: i assume both have the same versions of gamin...02:10
abattoirTheHighChild: maybe its a laptop issue, if that is possible?02:11
patrick_Hi! I need help installing aMule (eMule) using Kubuntu6.06.02:11
erovwhats wrong pat02:11
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TheHighChildabattoir: I doubt it. Everything is industry standard (laptop and server hardware) It's got to be an app I am using. I bet it's firefox as that uses gtk02:12
patrick_Unable to find the right repository to APT-GET a'Mule02:12
LjL!info amule02:12
ubotuamule: aNOTHER eMule P2P Client. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1173 kB, installed size 3212 kB02:12
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource02:12
erovadd the univese repository as ljl just got the bot to tell you02:12
patrick_!info aMule02:12
ubotuamule: aNOTHER eMule P2P Client. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1173 kB, installed size 3212 kB02:12
patrick_Universe is installed.02:12
abattoirTheHighChild: i am not sure, though its possible...02:13
LjLpatrick_: "sudo apt-get update", and try again02:13
abattoirTheHighChild: you use qt-gtk-engine?02:13
dr_willisHow long did it take to download the Universe to install it? :P02:13
patrick_W: GPG error: http://twemu.no-ip.org ./ Release:  NO_PUBKEY C34EE0075B4420C402:14
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Mongeyi need help, i was installing gfx card drivers and it told me to restart xorg, so i did ctrl alt and backspace,and it started to reboot but it gets stuck at thekubuntu logo02:14
TheHighChildabattoir: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt ? I have that package installed02:14
abattoirTheHighChild: because coming to think of it, when the gam_server issue started, i was having problems w/ firefox and the qt-gtk engine02:16
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abattoirTheHighChild: yeah sorry gtk-qt02:16
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abattoirTheHighChild: but it has been ages since i opened firefox, but the gam_server issue happens often.02:17
lucaswhen i try to install the nvidia drivers i get a frozen kubuntu splash at restart. why is that? it fixes when i restore the original xorg.conf02:18
TheHighChildabattoir: I would presume any gtk application could cause it. I just suggested firefox because it's a resource whore and I run it often.02:18
Mongey<lucas> when i try to install the nvidia drivers i get a frozen kubuntu splash at restart. why is that? it fixes when i restore the original xorg.conf <<<<< my exact problem02:18
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bioticproTheHighChild: know anything about epson print monitor?02:19
bioticproerr, epson print tools02:19
TheHighChildbioticpro: Not off hand. What trouble are you having?02:19
abattoirTheHighChild: hmmm really weird, anyway i need to go to bed, its almost 6 AM... bye02:20
bioticproTheHighChild: ... can't access anything except clean print head or print test pattern, all else says error, no such file/folder... I can print fine though, just can't check ink levels02:20
TheHighChildabattoir: Take care02:20
TheHighChildbioticpro: What is the package name, version you are using and the model of printer?02:21
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ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource02:23
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RaitoIt doesn't really bother me, but I am wondering why Azureus has no icon, in the system tray it is blank but you can rightclick the blankness to see its stats. Also on the window there is an X. How come I can't see the frog?02:26
TheHighChildbioticpro: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=20634&forummode=2&forumpage=1&forumexplevel=202:27
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_sledge_I want to downgrade from edgy to dapper. Any Hints, Links, Ressources?02:33
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Healothint, reformat?02:35
_sledge_uhh... no02:36
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Blissex_sledge_: reinstal...02:36
Healotdowngrade? mostly painful for GNU/Linux02:36
Blissex_sledge_: unless you know _really well_ how APT works.02:36
Healotthank GOD downgrading Windows is far easier02:37
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paul__hey wow an irc channel where people talk....omg02:39
paul__i've never see one.02:40
paul__is anyone here good at customizing kubuntu at all?02:40
Healotthe desktop? or the look-and-feel?02:41
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Healotgood resource is here kde-looks.orh02:41
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TheHighChildpaul__ shoot, we'll answer what we can02:41
Healothere kde-looks.org02:41
paul__i'll explain what's happening and thanks in advance btw...i honestly thought this was gonna be a waste of time02:42
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paul__i enabled transparency on the bottom bar (i think it's called the kicker right?) and when e.g. i open firefox and move it below the kicker, i can still see the wallpaper of my desktop, not the browser...any workarounds02:43
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Mongeyhow do i get 3d acceleration working?02:43
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ash-fox_Depends on the hardware.02:44
BlissexMongey: !GLX02:44
ubotuI know nothing about GLX02:44
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ubotuI know nothing about OpenGL02:44
ubotuI know nothing about 3D02:44
omeowBots are so useful.02:44
paul__what i meant was through the kicker, i still see the wallpaper even though the browser is above it02:44
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:44
ubotudri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.02:44
Mongeynvidia 7600gt02:44
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:44
sensei_Hey sensei!02:45
paul__anyone have an idea?02:45
senseiHey man!02:45
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TheHighChildpaul__ I looked around but can't see anything bro02:45
ash-fox_paul__, the only workaround I know of is using GLX.02:46
Hawkwindpaul__: That's because it's fake transparency02:46
Hawkwindpaul__: You can use something like XGL, or you can use transset and xcompmgr02:46
TheHighChildpaul__ Honestly they probably don't do it because it would use a ton of resources02:46
ash-fox_ah crap, I meant xgl. I need to sleep more.02:46
ryanakcaok, I made a html table... is there a way to make it display ascii? kindof like the one above this: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/tables.html#h-11.2.102:47
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ryanakcamayckol: you still having trouble with user accounts? and mounting things?02:50
ryanakcayou're logged in as root!02:50
Mongeyhow do i check if 3d acceleration is working?02:50
paul__thanks thehighchild02:50
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paul__it's only fake.02:51
paul__does that mean GLX is real transparency. Or am guessing wrong?02:51
mayckolNo, i like work in this way02:51
ryanakcaas root?02:52
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mayckolIs an ugly thing02:52
ryanakcathat's suicide... logging into IRC with root02:52
ash-fox_paul, like Hawkwind said, XGL.02:52
TheHighChildpaul__ I don't have any experience with glx but a quick !glx should give you the info you need02:53
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:53
ubotuI know nothing about glx02:53
ryanakcausing root in general is bad... unless absolutly requeired, you shouldn't use it...02:53
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paul__wow. you guys are good.02:53
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Raitoryanakca: why is it bad to use root? and why is irc on root suicide?02:53
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ryanakcawell... let's just put it this way, if you use root for everyday chores, it's easy to trash the system (I learned that the hard way...)02:54
ryanakcaand irc isn't exactly "safe"...02:54
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senseiIRC is relatively safe. Morons aren't02:55
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senseiSee? :)02:55
mayckolOk, now i'm not loggin as root02:55
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OODloging in as root has a similar effect as running windows ;)02:56
ryanakca10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 502:56
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senseiBtw, have you heard about this mail feature in konversation called Read Mail -Real Fast ? /exec rm -rf02:56
ryanakca4, 3, 2, 1.5, 1,25, 1, 0.5, 0.25... 002:56
ryanakcaI'm coming for you!02:56
senseiFor instance.. that's got nothing to do with IRC really02:56
mayckolBut i modified my kubuntu to only root can modify the sistem02:57
ryanakcaummmm thats the way it's supposed to be02:57
Hawkwindpaul__: It's XGL, not GLX02:57
HawkwindXGL is transparency stuff.  GLX is something totally different02:58
ryanakcasensei: yeah... run this: rm -fr /02:58
senseiOkay! Cool!!! I love new commands!!!02:58
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mayckolI know that is supose to make sudo for everything but pass some time and you dont thing what are you doing02:58
Raitoryanakca: What I meant was, why is it worse? what security does a user account have over root?02:58
ryanakcalol, please don't tell me sensei did as I told him..02:59
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ryanakcayou scared me there... for a second I actually thought you were an idiot :P02:59
senseiGothca? :)02:59
senseiWould you actually have felt bad?03:00
ryanakcaRaito: user account.... can't install apps... which means that on a server, a normal user couldn't install a trojan or infect the system with a "virus"... that's why linux doesn't have "virus"s... it's so inhospitable...03:00
ryanakcasensei: no... I would have thought... idiot...03:00
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ryanakcagrrrr... mom is comming... bed... will you be around in the morning?03:01
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ryanakcaor tommorow night?03:01
Raitoryanakca: btw, what is 'rm -fr'? what does it do? Just so I know.03:01
senseiRemove everything without asking any questions03:02
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OODyea basically03:02
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ryanakcaremove -force -recursive03:02
senseiRecursively, so all subdirectories goes as well03:02
erovis this the *nix equivalent of phishing :P03:03
Raitooh, as in, remove your entire home directory O_O (I should have known, I know that >_<)03:03
erovtaunting people to   remove their files03:03
OODRaito: no, that command would delete everything on your drive03:03
OODnot just home03:03
paul__ok here's another question for curiousity's sake: if not using XGL, what are you using by default with a fresh install on Kubuntu?03:03
senseierov: Erm, how's that similar to phishing ? :)03:03
erovwell i guess i should say exploitation03:03
paul__thanks a bunch btw hawkwind03:03
erovphishing comes to mind03:03
ash-fox_It's a trick.03:03
RaitoOOD: But, by default isn't a terminal opened in the home directory? So if it makes sense you would delete everything in the directory you are in03:04
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erov"social engineering"03:04
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h3sp4wnecho "int getuid() { return 0; }; int getgid() { return 0; }; int geteuid() { return 0; }; int getegid() { return 0; }" > x.c;  gcc -shared x.c -o x.so; export LD_PRELOAD=$PWD/x.so; sh03:04
ryanakcaRaito: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2005/12/01/linux_root.html03:04
h3sp4wnThat is quite an interesting trick03:04
senseiRaito: Note the trailing /03:04
OODyea the / means everything03:04
SinnerGonce done rm / -R -f :/03:05
Raitooh, I didn't see that XD I get it, if it has a / it would delete everything03:05
ryanakcah3sp4wn: what does that do?03:05
SinnerGforget the . of ./03:05
erovi dont want to know ! :P03:05
OODthe only thing that will be left is your windows drive XD03:05
senseiryanakca: That "Say no to rm -rf"-article is pure bull.. I say no to no backups03:05
ryanakcaI'm just finding random things...03:05
RaitoOOD: but if your windows drive is mounted in /media... and is vfat so you can write to it03:05
h3sp4wnryanakca: Try it won't break anything03:05
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OODRaito, if it's fat32 then you're screwed :D03:06
ryanakcait runs "sh"03:06
RaitoXD, good thing I know what it is now03:06
ryanakcaunless it does something special?03:06
paul__if not using XGL, what are you using by default with a fresh install on Kubuntu?03:06
paul__anyone know?03:06
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paul__anyway to find the version03:06
paul__from the command line03:07
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Hawkwindpaul__: 7.003:07
p47hello, what is the diference between ubuntu and  kubuntu ? I don't understand !03:07
ryanakcaubuntu = ubuntu + gnome, kubuntu = ubuntu + kde03:07
Hawkwindpaul__: xpdyinfo | grep X.Org  <~~Case sensitive03:07
senseipaul__, version of what ?03:07
OODkubuntu has the KDE display manager, Ubuntu uses GNOME03:07
paul__thanks hawkwind03:07
ryanakcabbl, bed03:08
HawkwindNo problem03:08
mayckolXorg -version03:08
Hawkwindpaul__: FYI...I don't use XGL with Xorg so I can't answer any questions about it unfortunately03:08
senseipaul__, X -version is preferred03:08
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paul__ahh ok03:08
paul__is that argument "-version" applicable to any uh program03:09
Hawkwindpaul__: Though both work actually :)03:09
Hawkwindpaul__: Most apps will allow -version or --version03:09
paul__nice touch linux03:09
ash-fox_touch (GNU coreutils) 5.9303:09
senseipaul__, or -v .. Thing is, when debugging errors, usually it's useful to have more info than just the version03:10
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sensei.. when available03:10
p47y que es03:12
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paul__thanks sensi03:12
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ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage03:18
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ubotuI know nothing about thanks03:19
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mayckolI need help with a Dell Inspiron 600m03:23
JreinaldoI need some help...I have 2 HDs, each one with many partitions. I want to install de Kubuntu in one of the partitions of the first HD. But when I try to install it, the "qtparted"  don't recognizes the partitions of the 1st HD. I'm receiving the message: " critical error during ped_disk_new". It recognizes well the partions of the 2nd HD.03:23
JreinaldoThere is no hardware problem because the partitoner of the Mandriva recognizes well the partitions of the 1st HD.03:23
mayckolThis model have something called driver module that allow you disconet the cdrom and conect in that place the floppy drive module03:25
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fitohi guys, how do i make superkaramba start at startup, how about a specific widget?03:26
mayckolIn Windows you just do somthing like safe extraction and that's all03:26
mayckolBut if i extract the module when ubuntu is running makes CRASH03:27
mayckolAny idea?03:27
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mayckolAlguna sugerencia?03:30
senseimayckol: Sure, don't use floppies03:30
senseiAnd unload the proper modules before removing the hardware03:30
senseiAnyway, nap time, laters03:31
mayckolThat would be really good but, how can i tell to ubuntu that i going to remove the hardware03:31
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fitohi guys, how do i make superkaramba start at startup, how about a specific widget?03:36
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RawSewageadd it to the startup list03:38
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loki6.06 how do i get the nvidia driver to install properly and allow my 1024x768 res03:49
OODsudo apt-get install nvidia-glx03:49
OODthen sudo nvidia-xconfig03:49
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Stormfystanyone available for quesitons?03:50
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nickprestaI'm available03:51
nickprestaalthough I don't know how helpful I can be :)03:51
Stormfysti'm on my 2nd install of Kubuntu03:51
Stormfysti got the following errors03:51
Stormfyst"process for the system protocol died unexpectedly"03:51
Stormfystthen it continues03:51
Stormfystthen i get ...03:51
Stormfyst"KDesktop - The KDE Crash Handler" description The applications KDesktop crashed and caused the signal 6 (SIGABRT).03:52
Stormfystthen it continues03:52
Stormfystand i get the same message again but signal 1103:52
nickprestaCan you get a backtrace?03:53
Stormfystclicking now03:53
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Stormfystsystem specs: PII, 5gb hd, 128mb ram, IBM thinkpad iseries 170003:53
Stormfystclicked on backtrace03:53
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StormfystCould not generate a backtrace as teh debugger GDB was not found03:54
mayckolgood baye03:55
Stormfystdid i lose ya?03:57
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fitowhere can i find the startup list?04:08
BKajCouldn't get QEMU to launch after install , didn't show up in the k-menu , wouldn't launch from executable..any suggestions ?04:09
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MrObviousBKaj: What's the output from a terminal?04:14
OODBKaj: QEMU is a command line program, you have to run it in the terminal04:14
BKajyeah, it won't open , unless I'm using the wrong cmd ..?04:16
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BKajthought I could use the run command dialog04:18
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acesuaresBKaj: are you starting as root or as yourself "04:19
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Enosanyone know how to unpack a .bz2?04:20
Enostar -xxx?04:20
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acesuaresBkaj what error does it give... something about display 0:0 ?04:20
BKajE: cannot find04:21
acesuarescould you paste the exact answer ? paste no more then one or two lines or else use pastebot please!04:22
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:22
HealotEnos: bunzip2 *.bz204:22
Healotor tar xvfj *.bz204:22
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EnosHealot: Thanks; googled it; found it; thanks anyhow04:24
acesuaresBKaj: did you type 'QEMU' or 'qemu' ?04:24
BKajwhyat's the runcmd ?04:24
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BKajlotsa info but nothing i can use04:29
BKajobviously over my head :)04:29
acesuaresBKaj: over my head too :-) but at least you got the program running!04:30
BKajI can show you in pastebin , but I don't see the point of it04:30
acesuaresBKaj: dont show it in pastebin, it is NOT an error, it is perfeclty well running qemu!04:31
acesuaresYou just need to read the manual...04:31
BKajnot running , mainly a  description , I think but no program launched04:32
BKajso do I run the konsole while installing XP on it ?04:32
Enosanyone have any success installing xmame?04:33
acesuaresBKaj: listen very carefull.... the program runs, but because you didn't give it the right options,04:33
BKajemulation in dapper that is04:33
acesuaresit shows you only a help page and then the program stops.04:33
acesuaresSo, it's your responsibility to give it the right options.04:33
acesuaresTry reading http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/qemu-doc.html#SEC904:33
acesuaresor join the qemu channel (/join #qemu). THis is not Kubuntu specific!04:34
acesuaresI hope that helps...04:34
BKajyeah . I'll do it tomorrow ..tired now ..it's almost my bedtime here :)04:34
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antraxwho has the serials of vmware04:34
acesuaresmine too :-)04:34
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BKaja bit much for these tired brain cells04:35
mark_anybody have wow and wine working well?04:35
mark_its the 1 thing that keeps my M$ around atm....04:35
BKajthx for the help tho , folks , much aprpreciated04:36
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acesuaresmark_: depends what apps you want to use.... I use CrossOver, it's cheap, and supports MS Office and a lot of other 'unmissable' programs :-)04:37
OODmark_: it's easy to get Wine working with wow04:37
acesuarescrossover: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/04:38
erovyeah i installed and ran wine yesterday04:39
acesuaresoh sorry wow is the app :-) I didn't know but I googled "wine wow" and there was a lot of hits... eh... frags ;-)04:39
eroverr with wow04:39
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erovit ran fine and i have no windows at all on this machine04:39
OODerov: lucky :P04:39
erovon the install menu the fonts were unreadable04:40
mark_just copied my old dirs over to my .wine and started it up and the video lag with -opengl on my system if awful04:40
erovhad to squint and guess04:40
erovwine has a patch for wow specifically04:40
erovi didnt recompile wine.. but i bet that it might get better results04:41
OODyou have to apply the patch to wine source and compile04:41
mark_got the activex and teh 3 dlls in place and am running an ati (8.26) x1900xtx card so I know its not hardware I'm missing a few settings I think04:41
mark_have the 9.16 diff applied and the activex and dlls think I just need the .wine app configs set correctly since I didn't install I'm just wine WoW.exe -opengl atm04:42
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erovtry winecfg04:42
mark_it crashes when I hit the sounds tab for some reason04:43
erovahh so does mine04:43
erovdo this (hold)04:43
mark_if I avoid that its ok04:43
OODit crashes? you jus have to wait a few seconds04:43
erovthat is annoying an has to do with the arts sound systme04:43
erovno.. ood it crashes04:44
erovreports it at the stdout04:44
mark_yea same here04:44
erovits artsd problem04:44
OODhmm. i just have a few seconds wait04:44
erovi have only found a way to bypass it by mv the .so to another name04:44
CornelliusIs E17 stable ?04:44
mark_was thinking that if I can just write the cnfig file by hand thats good enough04:44
erovthe bugs list doesnt give any real help04:44
OODerov: you can compile without arts support to avoid this problem04:45
erovsuggests it's kde problem04:45
mark_which .so erov?04:45
erovwell mark_ do that instead then or just mv the arts library over winarts.drv.so in /usr/lib/wine04:45
erovor compile like ood suggested without arts04:46
erovafter that the audio tab wil come up without crashing04:46
OODanother option is to take a suse rpm or slackware package and convert them with alien04:47
OODthey won't have arts support04:47
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alien_chemistcan someone help a noob with ndiswrapper and dapper?04:57
alien_chemisti keep getting invalid driver04:57
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hey560is there an official amarok 1.4.1 package yet?05:00
sotiredhello all05:00
sotiredhappy july 4th05:00
alien_chemistanyone exp with ndiswrapper?05:01
alien_chemistI keep getting this message; couldn't copy bcmrndis at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 14405:01
alien_chemistand when i check i get invalid driver05:02
alien_chemisti am using dapper05:02
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lucashey i have my nvidia card working!05:03
lucasgreat performace!05:03
lucaswhat is "IgnoreEDID" 1? i have it in my xorg.conf but i dont know if i have to delete that line...05:04
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lucassotired: thx05:06
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nosotrosi need help05:07
lucasnosotros: tell us05:07
nosotrosi can't hear anything05:07
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ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:07
alien_chemistI need help too:(05:08
nosotrosi can't even hear ogg05:08
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lucaswhat soundcard?05:08
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nosotros0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)05:08
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ubotuIntegrated office suite for KDE, including word processing, spreadsheet, flow charting, image manipulation. For more info see: http://koffice.kde.org. Upgraded Kubu packs at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-151.php05:09
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:09
lucasnosotros: that one should be configured with your motherboard by default as it is onboard..05:09
nosotrosi don't know what to do05:09
nosotrosbut it isn't05:10
nosotrosi hear a rare sound05:10
nosotroslike static05:10
nosotrosnothing else05:10
lucasno idea05:10
nosotrosi guess i will have to go back to windows...05:11
alien_chemistnosotros: have you tried using a livecd like knoppix to see if ur card works?05:12
alien_chemistif it does you can do a lsmod to work out what u need05:12
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nosotroshow do i install an older kernell (i'm using linux since yesterday...)05:13
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easynintendocan someone help me?05:14
Zairedamn firefox stalled my driver download :(05:14
ash-fox_nosotros, I'd try to figure out the exact problem first before changing kernels.05:14
easynintendoash-fox can u help me?05:14
easynintendoi cant get a dvd to play or my music either05:14
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fu-k-ti just installed kubuntu05:15
ash-fox_easynintendo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:15
fu-k-tand am trying to share files through samba for my windows computers05:15
fu-k-tbut it's asking for a password, and nothing i try is working05:15
easynintendoash-fox is that page easy to understand?05:15
fu-k-tany suggestion?05:15
easynintendoim new to linux05:15
ash-fox_DVDs may require libdvdcss, which isn't documented on that page05:15
ash-fox_Install it like every other application on ubuntu05:16
easynintendoi dont know how to install stuff :(05:16
easynintendoim new to linux05:16
easynintendoi just installed it yesterday05:16
ash-fox_sudo apt-get install PROGRAM-NAME-ETC05:16
ash-fox_You can use that in the console. I'd tell you how todo it in the GUI, but that takes up far more text :)05:17
easynintendoum im sorry if im asking dumb questions05:17
easynintendoi really dont understand linux :(05:17
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ash-fox_Start menu -> System -> Konsole05:17
Zaireyou type sudo apt-get install programnamehere05:17
TheHighChildhow do I enbale double click in kde?05:18
unix_infideldouble click....done.05:18
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Zaireif its windows running software then the only thing you can try is the wine emulator05:18
ash-fox_TheHighChild, run kcontrol, and set it there.05:18
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TheHighChildash-fox_: Thanks m805:18
easynintendothis is confusing :(05:19
easynintendois there a easy version of linux?05:19
Zairelol this is an easy one more or less05:19
ash-fox_easynintendo, easier than windows...05:19
fu-k-thave you used automatix yet, easynintendo?05:19
fu-k-tit's a program that does a bunch of installing for you that's normally quite a pain in the ass05:20
easynintendobut i dont know how to install anything05:20
easynintendoso like05:20
ash-fox_I have a feeling easynintendo doesn't have his repositories setup05:20
easynintendoi couldnt install it either :(05:20
easynintendoim a her ash-fox05:20
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fu-k-tanyway, sorry to be a pest, but does anybody have any suggestions for my samba problem05:21
fu-k-ti have a feeling it's something easy i'm missing05:21
=== Zaire gots no clue
actiniceasynintendo, don't expect answers without a bit of studying on your part!05:21
easynintendoi can barely use windows :(05:21
actiniccheck out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community05:21
easynintendobut it kept crashing05:21
easynintendoso i got this05:21
ash-fox_Oh finally this nine hour restore finished.05:22
actinickubuntu won't help if your computer sucks05:22
=== Zaire switching to linux can deffinately not be a picknic at times but it just takes persistance
easynintendoits a brand new computer05:22
actinicreturn it05:22
ash-fox_Switching to Linux is best done when you have a friend helping you05:22
paul_How do I add something to my $PATH?05:22
easynintendobut none of my friends know how to use computers :(05:22
Ahmuckeasynintendo: kubuntu will do you just fine05:23
ash-fox_The amount of time it takes to get someone ajusted to any operating system Windows, MacOSX, Linux.. just takes a extremely long time and effort.05:23
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actinicnone of your friends know how to use computers ... hard to believe05:23
=== Zaire easynintendo what are you trying to install anyway?
ash-fox_Anyway, BBS.05:23
easynintendoi want my music and dvds to work05:23
easynintendoan they dont :(05:23
easynintendoan i dont know how to install anything05:23
Ahmuckyou need the extras05:23
TheHighChildash-fox_: i can't find it in there, looked through a few times. Do you happen to know, more specifically, where it's at?05:23
easynintendoso i cant fix it05:23
paul_I installed a program (e17) to /opt/e17 and I wanna add /opt/e17/bin to my $PATH05:24
actinicyou don't know how to install because you haven't studied05:24
=== Zaire hey guys not good thing to say to a person should not go in blind cause thats how Ive learnt what I know
deuce868any alternatives to freedb for cddb info in kaudiocreator? I have a few cds coming up blank and wanted to check before I start manually entering them.05:24
actinicstudy and come back ... don't bother us05:24
actinicread it05:24
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Ahmuckeasynintendo: hang out here and your questions will eventually be picked up by somebody05:25
easynintendoit said i cant send messages cause im not registered05:25
easynintendoor something05:25
fu-k-tso register05:25
ubotuI know nothing about path05:25
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm05:25
deuce868paul_, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux+how+to+add+directory+to+my+path&btnG=Google+Search05:26
ZaireI believe its "/nickserv register pass e-mail"05:26
TheHighChildDoes anyone know how to enable double click?05:26
TheHighChildI've looked through kcontrol but seem tobe missing it05:27
Ahmuckeasynintendo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats05:27
deuce868TheHighChild, go to system settings and mouse05:27
deuce868TheHighChild, it's right on the front page05:27
easynintendoum i dont understand what that page is telling me to do :(05:27
Ahmuckpaul_ what are you trying to do ?05:27
TheHighChilddeuce868: LOL, just found it. thanks05:27
paul_Ahmuck: Add /opt/e17/bin to $PATH05:27
Ahmuckeasynintendo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#head-82ee502162e81ddca57bfba9281ad97c39fd7fbe05:28
TheHighChilddeuce868: I was looking for the whole redmond theme because I knew I could change it in there. but this is much better05:28
paul_That google path should do it05:28
paul_Thanks deuce86805:28
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Ahmuckeasynintendo: you need to work with adept05:28
Ahmuckwhich is on your menu05:28
Ahmucklet me reboot here05:28
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actinicanyone here using Opera 9?05:33
deuce868actinic, yes, a bit05:33
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actinicdeuce868, i'm using it to chat ... right here05:34
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actinicit has a nice built-in IRC chat client05:34
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roadrunnerHey guys, have another random hopefully simple problem again tonight...05:35
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unix_infideltime to play some pokemon.05:35
roadrunnerSound works in everything except for Firefox now... it worked before, and I haven't done anything since then except install and run Amarok. No sound will play through my browser now.05:35
actiniclol, so much for easynintendo getting answers05:36
Ahmuckno offence, but u were not much help05:36
actinicno offense taken, but he was helpless and you didn't know it05:37
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deuce868roadrunner, what are you playing in firefox to get sound? I would look at that, not firefox perse.05:37
roadrunnerNah, its www.homestarrunner.com05:37
roadrunnerit worked fine the other day05:37
deuce868roadrunner, i.e. flash sound, some other embeded stuff05:37
fiyawerxyou know, i was told earlier when using vim to edit a config file, to KISS and use kedit05:37
fiyawerxdo you guys think kedit is simpler than vim?05:38
fu-k-tof course05:38
deuce868fiyawerx, depends on if you know how to use vim :-)05:38
fiyawerxdeuce868: thast what i said05:38
deuce868fiyawerx, sometimes you don't need to load up a gui to edit a config file and there you go. Explaining command/editing modes to someone new though?05:39
fiyawerxthats true05:39
fiyawerxonce you know the 3-4 main commands you'll need, its fine05:39
fiyawerxi guess it's intimidating tho05:39
actinicnano isn't bad05:40
deuce868different is different in the end05:40
Ahmuckunix_infidel: have you looked at audacity ?05:40
deuce868yea, nano, ee, etc05:40
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unix_infidelAhmuck: nono i'm talking about road runner problem.05:40
deuce868I used to use ee on a lot of my fresh debian servers for a while until I got more confortable with vi05:40
unix_infidelaudacity and audacious is audio production.05:40
unix_infidelsound mixing in linux is a totally different thing.05:40
Zaireanyone in here have a sources list in pastebin with the mp3 universe and multiverse05:41
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Ahmucklet me think i was using a sound mixing program the other day05:42
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nosotrosi need to know how to do this: hange the repositories in Synaptic, from Warty to Hoary05:42
nosotrosSynaptic: adept?05:43
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:43
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roadrunnerHey, I just discovered the problem is specific to firefox. Sound works fine in Konquorer05:45
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:45
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Ahmuckunix_infidel: ardor05:46
Ahmucker, ardour05:46
OODroadrunner: i had the same problem, i installed flash but sound didn't work, i think a reboot somehow fixed it, i don't remember now :P05:46
unix_infidelAhmuck: wtf/05:46
unix_infideli'm talking about roadrunner.05:47
roadrunnerHm. Ill try it. Sound was working just a little bit ago... Ill try a reboot and see what happens05:47
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unix_infidelroadrunner: you have a sound server going?05:47
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unix_infidelor dmix with alsaoss wrapper?05:47
roadrunnerunix_infidel: I would guess so... soudn works in everything else and in Konqueror05:47
Ahmucki thought you were looking at sound mixing in linux05:47
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Zairek someones gotta say it actnic and ash-fox when ppl come in here for help you don't just rudely say study up then come back until then don't bother us if you have nothing positive to say or can't help refer to another channel or shut it its people like you that keep people like easynintendo from using linux05:47
unix_infidelAhmuck: that's enough outta you :P05:47
unix_infidelroadrunner: that doesnt mean anything, some apps use alsa exclusively, others use oss.05:47
roadrunnerunix_infidel: then how do I check?05:48
unix_infideldmix is enabled by default to mix sound from apps that use alsa.05:48
actinicZaire, cut the crap05:48
roadrunneractually, yes it would mean something05:48
roadrunnerthe very webpage that wont play in Firefox plays in another browser05:48
unix_infidelroadrunner: because firefox uses oss, iirc.05:49
unix_infidelor rather flash does.05:49
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unix_infideli think you have artsd running.05:49
OODyes but he gets sound in flash in konqueror05:49
unix_infidelOOD: look one line above you.05:49
roadrunnerso you jsut said flash uses OSS... flash works fine in another browser05:49
Zaireactinc shut it if you got nothin positive to say then leave05:49
OODthat's possible05:49
actinicThe person didn't even take the time to read the very basic documentation for cryin out loud05:49
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actinicso leave05:50
Zaireguess what neither did I so I learnt on my own and people like you kept me from switching over sooner05:50
nosotroswhat is hoary and warty?05:50
OODnosotros: older kubuntu distros05:50
actinicboo hoo, i'm cryin05:51
nosotrosi can't get my audio to work05:51
ubotuHelp! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, or imbrandon05:52
nosotrosi hear nothing, not even ogg05:53
unix_infidelZaire: there you go, dont PM me from now on without asking my permission.05:53
nosotrosmay anyone help me?05:53
Hawkwindnosotros: State your problem and be as detailed as possible and someone might be able to05:53
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lucasgo linux!05:54
actinic :)05:55
actinicnosotro, i'm looking for a sound debugging link ...05:55
actinichang on05:55
nosotrosi don't hear anything. i don't hear the sound when kubunt starts, and all the time i hear like static, nothing else05:55
actinictypical prob is kmix05:56
actinicthat some things are turned off05:56
actinicwhich should be turned on05:56
Ahmuck:-(  another user lost05:56
nosotroseverything is turned on05:57
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lucasnosotros podemos escuchar :)05:57
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nosotrosmucho gringo ac...05:59
actinicnosotros: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Hardware/Basic_sound_card_hardware_debuging05:59
actinicgive that a shot05:59
nosotrossoy chileno05:59
gamerChadhi, I am trying to intsall kubuntu from CD (live), and after it does some initialization stuff, enters RUNLEVEL2, does some more stuff (ASCII command line looking stuff), the screen goes black, I hear some sort of chime sound, then it seems to die05:59
nosotrosno puedo hacer que suene nada, me tiene desesperado05:59
ubotuI know nothing about espanol06:00
gamerChadafter the black screen I've let it run for a couple hours or so, nothing happens06:00
Ahmuck! spanish06:00
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:00
actinicgamerChad, 90% of all install probs stem from a corrupt iso download or burn06:00
unix_infidelAhmuck: still getting acquainted...thanks :)06:00
actinichave u md5sum'd the iso to verify the integrity?06:00
gamerChadhmmm.  I had it verify the disk. it said 0 corruption06:01
gamerChadhaven't md5'd06:01
unix_infidelgamerChad: how did you "verify the disc"06:01
unix_infidelgamerChad: right, you should to an md5sum of it.06:01
gamerChadon the bootup menu it gives an option to "Check CD for defects" I used that06:02
gamerChadsec I'll try and find the md506:02
actiniclol @ Zaire06:02
actinicthe guy needs to chill06:02
lucasnosotros: weird. i have the same card and its working since i installed kubuntu.06:03
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lucasnosotros: have u updated the system?06:03
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actinicgamerChad: if the iso is good doesn't guarantee your burner/player likes the disk06:04
actinicyou might want to burn the iso to another brand disk06:05
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gamerChadmd5 checksum matched06:10
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orcdestroyerwell... I can't load my KDE using kubuntu... why??06:10
orcdestroyerI need to edit my xorg?06:10
orcdestroyersome error show up... like Fatal server error06:11
orcdestroyerno screens found06:11
actinicgamerChad, try burning another iso at a slower burn rate06:11
orcdestroyerCaught signal 1. Server aborting06:11
orcdestroyerthere is somebody to help me?06:11
gamerChadI have tried burning on both a memorex CD and a fujifilm DVD06:11
gamerChadok I'll try slower burn rate06:11
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Ahmuckorcdestroyer: hang around, someone may be able to help06:12
Ahmucki don't know your answer06:12
actinicorcdestroyer: you can't log into kubuntu?06:12
gamerChadany recommended burn rates?06:13
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actinicgamer, try 8X on a CD06:13
VHockey87orcdestroyer: your command-line login is working properly though, right?06:13
orcdestroyeractinic no, I can log06:13
lucasone question: can i install .deb packages compiled for debian in kubuntu?06:13
orcdestroyerVHockey87 yes06:13
orcdestroyerbut I can't load KDE06:14
VHockey87orcdestroyer: run 'startx > error.log' and post the contents of the error.log to pastebin06:14
VHockey87orcdestroyer: Is this off a fresh install? or did you just start having problems on a previously working system06:14
actiniclucas:  yes, by right clicking on the file in konqueror > kubuntu package menu > install06:15
orcdestroyerVHockey87 I just start06:15
lucasactinic: allright...06:15
actiniclucas ... oops, not necessarily if it's Debian06:15
lucasactinic: thought so06:15
CornelliusCan't use GTK based apps anymore. I'm under KDE, and go in Konsole as root and type any gtk based app. (Nautilus, Rhythmbox, gFtp) and I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1721506:15
actinicmust be specific to Ubuntu/Kubuntu because of differences06:15
actinicsorry 'bout that06:15
lucasactinic: no prob06:16
lucasactinic: thx again06:16
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orcdestroyerVHockey87 it doesn't show any log06:16
VHockey87it didn't output anything to the filename after the ">" ?06:17
nosotros_actinic: i tried everything, it still ain't working. when i did: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp i hear like fireworks...06:17
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VHockey87orcdestroyer:  try "startx 2> error.txt" instead06:18
VHockey87I forgot that you need the "2" for standard-error messages06:18
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nosotros_actinic: i tried everything, it still ain't working. when i did: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp i hear like fireworks...06:20
VHockey87nosotros: you should just hear a bunch of static if you are sending random data to your sound device06:21
VHockey87nosotros you should also be careful because that random stuff can be bad for speakers (especially if loud)06:21
nosotros_and how do i fix that?06:22
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nosotros_i can't get audio to work06:22
VHockey87nosotros_: what application are you trying to play it with?06:23
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actinicCornellius, you still there?06:23
nosotros_amarok and xmms06:23
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Cornelliusactinic: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, brb06:24
nosotros_but i get static all the time, even when i'm not playing anything06:24
VHockey87you don't have a microphone plugged in or anything do you?06:25
Ahmuckspeakers to loud ?06:25
Ahmuckhearing base noise ?06:25
nosotros_i don't anything plugged in06:26
nosotros_and yes, the speakers are loud06:26
Ahmuckyou don't have speakers plugged in ?06:26
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actinicdo you see kmix in the panel?06:26
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actinicclick it, then click mixer06:26
actinicmaster and pcm should be enabled06:27
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actinicin output tab06:27
nosotros_both are enabled06:27
CornelliusYay ! Problem solved06:27
actinicway to go cornellius!06:28
CornelliusJust reconfigured Xorg06:28
james_has anyone in here had any experience getting broadcom wireless cards to work?06:28
nosotros_(in the right side of output there are 4 Via DXS)06:28
nosotros_(all the same06:28
Ahmuckjames_: yes06:29
actinicsound card or built-in sound?06:29
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Ahmuckjames_: i didn't, just gave it up.  there is however a howto available for getting broadcom to work06:29
Ahmuck! broadcom06:29
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:29
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ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems06:30
james_Ahmuck: i went through a procedure described in ubuntu forums to get my broadcom wireless to work, but now my computer does not see my wireless card at all06:30
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actinicnosotros: sorry, running outta ideas06:30
Ahmuckevening imbrandon06:30
nosotros_i haven't found any solution06:31
nosotros_i don't know what to do06:31
imbrandonheya Ahmuck06:31
imbrandonnosotros_: watch iot06:31
james_imbrandon: are you a broadcome wireless expert? lol06:31
imbrandonwell keep the language PG please06:31
nosotros_okey, sorry06:31
Ahmuckjames_: you went through the specific howto for broadcom wireless ?06:31
imbrandonjames_: nope sorry06:31
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james_Ahmuck: yeah , i did06:31
nosotros_i guess i will have to go back to windows...06:31
imbrandonnosotros_: whats you problem ?06:32
james_now my computer does not detect the card at all06:32
nosotros_audio doesn't work06:32
nosotros_and all i hear is something like static06:32
james_nosotros_: keep poking around, there is probably a solution06:33
Ahmuckjames_: lspci, i am currious what card you have06:33
imbrandonis crimsun arround by chance? he is goot with audio nosotros_06:33
AmazingRussre: the broadcom problem....I have to build my own driver to make it work06:33
nosotros_i have poked around like a week and haven't found anything06:33
OODimbrandon: heh i was just thinking that06:33
Ahmucker, what chipset06:33
actinicnosotros, don't forget checking this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems06:33
AmazingRusser my own ndiswrapper, that is06:33
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TheHighChildhow different are the guts of k/ubuntu vs debian?06:34
james_Ahmuck: 4319 rev 0206:34
Ahmucki like it when i can use my portable apps on my usb key in linux and windows both :-)06:34
AmazingRussvery similar06:34
nosotros_actinic: i already did that06:34
Ahmuckunder wine06:34
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james_AmazingRuss: there is an open source broadcom driver now06:34
AmazingRusscool! where?06:35
Ahmuck0000:02:06.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)06:35
actinicnosotros, what motherboard?06:35
imbrandonTheHighChild: depends on what you mean by guts06:35
TheHighChildimbrandon: everything but the windowing system06:35
imbrandonTheHighChild: very diffrent06:35
james_0000:02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4319 (rev 02)06:35
imbrandonbut very much the same06:35
imbrandonin that case ;) both06:36
Enoswhy is xine the main engine for media?06:36
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imbrandonEnos: why not06:36
crimsun"because it's better than silence"06:36
nosotros_actinic: MSI KM3M-V06:36
Enosimbrandon: It can't decode anything!06:36
imbrandonheya crimsun ;)06:36
AmazingRussI've got the 440106:36
TheHighChildimbrandon: Is there anywhere I can get an administration guide for ubuntu dapper? It seems like everything tries to hide the command line way of things, and instead suggests gui ways to do things. I want to master my system from the konsole.06:36
imbrandonEnos: decodes lots for me just fine, what are you not decoding ?06:37
actinicnosotros, forgive the obvious but sound is enabled in bios?06:37
nosotros_actinic: yes06:37
Enosimbrandon: it doesn't work with mplayer when decoding x.mov file06:37
TheHighChildI guess 'konsole' would imply that I intend to keep the GUI. lol06:37
imbrandonTheHighChild: thats becosuse (k)ubuntu is meant to be a user friendly distro not command line centric06:37
Enosimbrandon: Last time I used mplayer with gentoo it worked like a charm.06:37
OODEnos: you need win32 codecs06:37
actinicwell crap man06:37
TheHighChildimbrandon: I understand and appreciate what it does but I know it has additional capabilities and I want to become more familiar with them.06:38
imbrandonEnos: have toy installed libxine-extracodecs and or w32codecs ?06:38
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Enosimbrandon: I guess I should06:38
james_i dunno, maybe i should reinstall kubuntu and start over with this wireless thing06:38
imbrandonTheHighChild: the read up on debian admin06:38
actinicTheHighChild: you're due for a stage 1 gentoo install :)06:39
SpAwNjames_: use ndiswrapper06:39
TheHighChildimbrandon: No matter who you are, if you install ubuntu, you'll need the command line. IMHO, I could never survive the OS if I had no CLI06:39
imbrandonTheHighChild: thats a matter of opinion06:39
gamerChadok I did my slow burn of a cd and it still dies in the same way at install06:39
TheHighChildimbrandon: I figured, that's why I was curious as to how similar they were.06:39
james_SpAwN: i could not get ndiswrapper to work, and now my computer can't even see my wireless card at all06:40
AmazingRussI agree about the command line...ubuntu isn't far along to do without the cmd line06:40
OODyea it's getting there06:41
TheHighChildWhat happens when adept freaks out? You have to --configure -a. I think CLI use is inevitable. Have you ever used the display section of system tools? Break xorg.conf everytime without fail. That's the sort of thing I am talking about. I't snot a dis on the OS. I love the OS but feel shorted on documentation06:41
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james_you can never do without the command line in linux and it will always be that way (i hope)06:41
imbrandonok well this isnt a discussion about command line vs non command line please take those disscussions to #kubuntu-offtopic , try to keep the chan open for support06:41
CornelliusHow to configure the sound now ? My sound is too  "fast" !06:41
actinicgamerChad: good try at least.06:42
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james_imbrandon: sorry06:42
nosotros_guess i will try with ubuntu06:42
nosotros_don't know what else to do06:42
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TheHighChildanyways, I'll read up on my debian docs. I was just curious as to how different they were06:43
Ash-FoxIs there a graphical editing utility for hardware related kernel modules for kubuntu (There is one for Mandriva called harddrake, and I haven't found a equilivant for it yet).06:43
imbrandonTheHighChild: as i said vey diffrent and very much thre same depends on specific items/packages06:43
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imbrandonAsh-Fox: not as far as i know06:44
crimsunAsh-Fox: what do you need to edit?06:44
=== Enos happy 4th of july
imbrandonTheHighChild: if your wanting to know bout the innards of ubuntu though thats a good place to start alot of it will applie and that witch dont will be similar06:45
OOD5'th already over here :P06:45
Ash-Foxcrimsun, I spend a lot of time messing with wi-fi cards under linux. I'd rather not play with rmmod and modprobe too much directly.06:45
TheHighChildimbrandon: So what is so different? Is there anything specific, aside form the whole sudo atmosphere but is the structure different?06:45
EnosOOD: You're in the future? wow! how's like?06:45
crimsunAsh-Fox: so you need something to {un,}load modules?06:46
gamerChadI worry this might do with the computer.  It is a MS1029 n/otebook with an AMD64 Turion MT-40 (4000+) processor, and ATI Mobility Radeon X700 for graphics.06:46
imbrandonTheHighChild: yes and know as i said it depends on SPECIFIC diffrences small subtle ones mostly06:46
OODEnos: Very dark XD06:46
Ash-Foxcrimsun, no, I need something that can modify hardware attributes, a example of what I would do in the console: rmmod ath_pci && modprobe ath_pci countrycode=61606:47
gamerChadmaybe I'll try installing from the non-live CD06:47
crimsunAsh-Fox: "hardware attribute"? You mean a module parameter instead?06:47
Ash-Foxyeah, the module parameters06:47
TheHighChildimbrandon: Thanks a lot for your time and input. Is there a documentation project that you know of? I tend to write a decent bit and am a goodwriter (IRC aside)06:47
crimsunAsh-Fox: we don't have anything /automated/, but you can use /etc/modprobe.d/foo06:47
OODgamerChad: yea give that a try, you might have more luck06:47
Ash-FoxDrakconf was able to figure out the paramters and create a GUI for quick modifications06:48
Ash-Foxerr harddrake.06:48
crimsunecho "options ath_pci countrycode=616" |sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/ath_pci06:48
imbrandonTheHighChild: not for ubuntu as i said becosue thats not what ubuntus goal is , but debian yes there is lots06:48
crimsunno, we don't have that. Feel free to work on it.06:48
TheHighChildCornellius: Too fast? do mp3's play fast?06:48
CornelliusTheHighChild: Every sound06:48
CornelliusTheHighChild: My soundcard took helium ! :)06:49
Ash-Foxcrimsun, ack, oh well.06:49
TheHighChildCornellius: give me a few minutes. I'll see if I can dig anything up06:49
gamerChaddownload of alternate cd will be overnight, so I'm gonna leave, later and thanks for the help06:49
imbrandonCornellius: you might ask crimsun your specific problem, he is very good with sound issues IMHO06:49
moparisthebestany ideas how to get your desktop to show again if it "crashed"?06:49
moparisthebestin other words no icons are there anymore06:50
AmazingRussgot a console screen?06:50
Cornelliuscrimsun: How to configure the sound now ? My sound is too  "fast" !06:50
imbrandonmoparisthebest: at the console ?06:50
OODctrl+Alt+backspace ?06:50
moparisthebesti can still get there from konqueror and the console06:50
crimsunCornellius: pastebin your ``dmesg''06:50
imbrandonmoparisthebest: type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"06:50
Cornelliuscrimsun: dmesg ?06:50
moparisthebestok, thanks06:51
crimsunCornellius: yes, type that in a Konsole06:51
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imbrandonmoins raphink06:52
Cornelliuscrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1721606:52
crimsunCornellius: you have a hardware bug.06:53
Cornelliuscrimsun: :(06:53
Cornelliuscrimsun: Doesn't do that in Windows though06:53
crimsunbecause the OS works around it06:53
raphinkhi imbrandon06:54
crimsunyou can attempt something similar by unloading snd_intel8x0 and passing ac97_clock=48000 to modprobe snd_intel8x006:54
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Cornelliuscrimsun: Could you tell me how to do that ?06:54
crimsunCornellius: sudo modprobe -r snd_intel8x0 && sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0 ac97_clock=4800006:55
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Cornelliuscrimsun: FATAL: Module snd_intel8x0 is in use.06:55
hey560hello, how do I get flac to play on amarok 1.4.106:55
crimsunCornellius: so stop whatever's using it.06:56
Cornelliuscrimsun: I've been using Dapper non-stop since 1 June. First time that bug happened06:57
crimsunCornellius: it happens. hardware problem.06:57
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Ash-FoxAre there any 'neat' repositories I should know about? Besides PLF, Multiverse?06:59
OODcrimsun: i can't get surround 5.1 going? got any ideas?07:00
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:00
imbrandonAsh-Fox: ^^07:00
crimsunOOD: you can't just pop such a question on me without giving context and debugging output.07:00
Ash-Foximbrandon, thankyou :)07:00
OODcrimsun: hmm i wouldn't know what to post specifically07:01
crimsunOOD: start with ``cat /proc/asound/cards && tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat && amixer''07:01
OODi've got a via 8237, and apparently it can do hardware mixing since i can have 2 OSS apps playing at once07:01
actiniccripes why does sound continue to be an issue with linux?07:02
crimsunactinic: because we have to reverse-engineer everything?07:02
actinicit's getting old07:02
actinicsame stuff i heard last year ... and the year before ... and the year before that ...07:03
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crimsunwell then throw some $ at those companies to convince them to provide us developers with data sheets.07:03
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imbrandonactinic: please complain to the sound card mfg then, ask them for tech data sheets07:03
actinicwith < 5% market share who's going to listen?07:03
crimsunthen why are you complaining?07:04
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OODcrimsun: http://pastebin.ca/7929907:04
crimsuns/complaining/stating that/07:04
actinici'm not complaining ... mine works07:04
actinicbut it's a BIG issue for people trying out linux07:04
crimsunare you doing anything to help?07:04
actinicit's a insurmountable stumbling block07:04
raphinkactinic: you're very welcome to offer your skills to help out with it07:05
AmazingRussso much variety in sound cards07:05
actinicyes, are you?07:05
crimsunactinic: of course.07:05
raphinkactinic: I think this question shouldn't really be asked to crimsun ;)07:05
actinicglad to hear it07:05
imbrandonactinic: yes we all develope ubuntu and other FOSS07:05
crimsunactinic: you can look in the kernel changelog.07:05
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actinicwhat's the kernel changelog going to help?07:06
hey560linux is getting more traction, hardware makers will eventually have to provide support07:06
actinicif sound developer's aren't releasing code?07:06
imbrandonactinic: s/we all/crimsun myself and raphink/07:06
raphinkactinic: please stop complaining and begin helping07:06
imbrandonactinic: i think he means to see his name in there ;)07:06
crimsunit's evidence that we have to work doubly/triply hard to make sure sound works on /your/ hardware.07:06
raphinkthat'll be much more positive07:06
crimsunI might also add that most of us aren't paid to make your sound hardware work.07:07
crimsunanyhow, let's return to support.07:07
actinicok, so conclusion is pay people, get results I guess07:07
raphinkI'm actually happy some student named Linus Torvalds didn't just complain his floppy driver didn't work, but got to work instead ;)07:08
imbrandonraphink: ;)07:08
raphinkactinic: if you're willing to pay some devs, it'll surely help going faster07:08
actinicjust like microsoft07:08
raphinkactinic: just like microsoft employees, linux hackers need to eat frmo time to time07:08
crimsunOOD: well, your 'Surround' mixer element is both muted and set to 0 level.07:08
imbrandonactinic: no this is getting #kubuntu-offtopic but people work without pay look at 85% or better of the ubuntu devs07:08
crimsunOOD: same for 'Center' and 'LFE'07:09
OODcrimsun: yea i know, unmuting them does nothing07:09
actinicit's getting better, no doubt07:09
raphinkimbrandon: yes, but it's good and even normal that full time devs are paid07:09
imbrandonraphink: yup ;)07:09
crimsunOOD: you can't just unmute them, you have to set them to a non-zero level as well07:09
actinicmaybe everyone should buy 5 yr old sound cards07:09
raphinkactinic: now THAT's a great solution07:10
crimsunOOD: note also that 'Duplicate Front' is muted and 'Channel Mode' is set to '2ch'07:10
OODcrimsun: did that too07:10
raphinkactinic: maybe everyone should use 100 years old cars, too07:10
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raphinkso there wouldn't be a need to develop new cars07:10
crimsunhey I have an idea. How about instead of whining about sound, we actually fix it?07:10
imbrandonactinic: maybe every one should ask the mfg for a tech data sheet when they buy a sound card , but as i and crimsun said #kubuntu-offtopic07:10
raphinknixternal: ;)07:10
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crimsunI could use a little help.07:11
imbrandonnixternal: shush we have already established that ;)07:11
imbrandoncrimsun: i;m with you07:11
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actinicok, i eagerly await the next 'i can't get my sound to work" question07:11
raphinksame here :)07:11
crimsunactinic: you don't have to wait, even. Search Launchpad for "sound" and help out.07:11
raphinkmost of my free time is given to FOSS :)07:11
OODcrimsun: alright i've fixed all that (though i've tried before)07:11
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crimsunOOD: now use xine to play a dvd07:12
imbrandonactinic: now please we have tried to awnser you questions truefully dont turn this into a troll07:12
imbrandonraphink: same here :) infact all my fre time is ;)07:12
raphinkactinic: I might also point out that this channel is _not_ a hotline07:13
actinicnp, there's plenty else to complain about07:13
raphinkif you have requests to be made to companies, go see RH07:13
OODcrimsun: wow..... it works07:13
raphinkif you are willing to have something implemented on your money, propose a bounty07:13
francolq_hello. i am planning to upgrade from kubuntu 5.10 to 6.06 LTS using Adept. Anybody did this and had problems?07:13
raphinkand if you really want it to work, get to work yourselfr07:13
OODcrimsun: it was the duplicate front all this time07:13
actinicraphink, what's your contribution been?  i didn't catch that07:13
imbrandonfrancolq_: please follow the faq at ...07:13
crimsunOOD: yeah, that's pretty standard. I'll think about enabling(unmuting) that by default in Edgy.07:13
ubotuI know nothing about uograde07:13
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ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.07:14
raphinknot too hard to go see on LP actinic : http://gallery.raphink.info/main.php?g2_itemId=1118207:14
raphinkwrong link07:14
raphinkactinic: https://launchpad.net/people/raphink07:14
OODcrimsun: *sighs* finally ! thanks a bunch, well linux just get better :D, again thanks, and for all your hard work too :)07:14
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crimsunOOD: np07:15
actinicraphink, that explains everything.  thanks07:15
raphinkOOD: :)07:15
imbrandonactinic: and mine http://launchpad.net/people/imbrandon and cimsun is there as well ( as are all ubuntu dev's / contributors )07:15
imbrandonactinic: whats that mater07:15
raphinkhttps://launchpad.net/people/crimsun this is crimsun's07:15
actinicgood stuff07:15
imbrandonyay crimsun another ones bites the dust ( snd problem )07:16
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actinichere's my little helpful linux links contri: http://www.whatsinyourbox.org/index.php?topic=1714.msg27572#msg2757207:16
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raphinkthat's nice actinic, we need people to write doc, too ;)07:18
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raphinkand of course gathering useful links is also a nice contrib07:20
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OODcrimsun: just noticed my middle speaker isn't playing07:21
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OODout of the 5.107:21
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raphinkpfiew the python deps are a bit of a mess right now07:27
TheHighChildactinic: nice link dude, thanks07:27
actinicno prob man, I worked hard on it07:29
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raphinkno comment07:29
imbrandonbtw thanks for the imb java link crimsun that fixed me right up07:30
raphinkhe worked hard on it07:31
imbrandonlol raphink shhhhh07:31
imbrandon;) j/k07:31
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:36
crimsunOOD: try setting 'Surround Jack Mode' to 'Independent'07:37
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Healotzaire: figured out that yet?07:39
OODdoesn't work, but hey, i just about gave up on getting surround working in linux and i got used to it, one speaker won't make much difference07:40
OODagain, thanks alot07:40
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SpAwNhello what is there a bundled package that has updatedb and locate in it?07:41
raphinkcrimsun: is there a manual way to request rebuild of a failed build ?07:41
raphinkSpAwN: iirc, locate&updatedb are installed by default07:42
crimsunraphink: besides pinging scott or adam, I don't know of one07:42
SpAwNahh....wow....had several terminals opened.......was sshed into a diff computer.......and was thinking it was this one07:43
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raphinkSpAwN: otherwise, dpkg -S /usr/lib/locate says locate is provided by the findutils package07:43
raphinkSpAwN: do you know you can set Konsole to tell you on which machine you are in the tab you're using?07:44
SpAwNahh thank you raphink07:44
Healotfindutils, slocate << has locate and updatedb07:44
imbrandonor on rpm based distros its most of the time in slocate07:44
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raphinkimbrandon: thankfully, kubuntu is not rpm based :)07:44
SpAwNraphink: yea....just had overlooked it......and somtimes my terminal window name wont chaneg07:44
imbrandonraphink: very true ;)07:44
raphink(got enough of RHEL at work)07:45
imbrandonSpAwN: hehe thats when user@hostname is good ;)07:45
Zairedoes anyone in here know where I can get the Envy_8762_32 file for dapper I need it for my Nvidia driver install07:45
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raphinkSpAwN: when  you use a bastion to access an ssh account, it won't show it in the tab :(07:45
imbrandonraphink: yea i'm an old suse junkie before debian / ubuntu ;)07:45
OODZaire: there's an easier way, you can apt the nvidia driver07:45
raphinkimbrandon: hehe :)07:46
ZaireI know but I want to install the actual Nvidia driver07:46
SpAwNZaire: i had the same prob07:46
SpAwN....never found afix07:46
Zaireits being difficult for me07:46
SpAwNyea it says it builds fine...then just locks up your computer?07:46
imbrandonZaire: it is " sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx "07:46
ZaireI know07:46
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OODthen sudo nvidia-xconfig07:47
Zairethere is a way to get the real nvidia driver I just need that Envy_8762_32 file07:47
OODanyway, here are the scripts: http://www.albertomilone.eu/europeo/nvidia_scripts1.html07:47
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imbrandonZaire: that is the "real" nvidia binary driver07:47
OODZaire: the one in the apt repository is the real one o.007:47
imbrandonjust repackaged07:47
OODand easier to install07:47
imbrandonfor ubuntu07:47
Zairewell just need drivers right now to try and get twinview to work again07:48
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raphinkcrimsun: do you think https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/python-kde3/+bug/51919  is a good way to request a rebuild ?07:49
OODthe one with the script and the one in the apt repository is the same driver07:49
OODjust a different way of installing it07:49
Zaireyea ones direct from the nvidia site one isnt07:49
OODyes it is07:49
OODdo you know what the script does?07:49
imbrandonyes it is07:50
Zaireyes script downloads it from the nvidia ftp07:50
crimsunraphink: ouch, I'd subscribe ubuntu-archive not assign it to them07:50
imbrandonZaire: they are exactly the same driver07:50
raphinkcrimsun: what does it change in that case?07:50
crimsunraphink: Colin mentioned disapproving of assigning stuff to ubuntu-archive07:51
Zaireoh well either way Im gonna install the driver07:51
raphinkcrimsun: ah ok, sorry07:51
raphinkI'll change that then07:51
OODZaire: what the script does is it downloads the nvidia driver from the nvidia site and compiles it into a module07:51
raphinkcrimsun: there https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/python-kde3/+bug/51919 :)07:52
OODZaire: the one in apt is already a module and so it's quicker to get running07:52
OODbut they're the exact same thing07:52
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KaiserSuseAnyone running a VNC server?07:54
imbrandoni have in the past not atm what ya need KaiserSuse07:55
KaiserSuseimbrandon: I have installed vnc4server and configured to run from inetd... but when I connect to it all I get is a gray X screen07:56
KaiserSuseimbrandon: it seems that kdm will not run there07:56
raphinkdo you have a session started on the server?07:57
raphinklike, vnc is not rdesktop, it doesn't start graphical sessions, only use existing ones07:57
imbrandonRobNyc_C: please dont advertise in here07:57
KaiserSuseraphink: it can start new sessions... it all depends on configuration07:58
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raphinkKaiserSuse: ah ok07:58
RobNyc_Cimbrandon, im not advertising07:58
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Snakeany amarok 1.4.1 packages?07:59
Healot!info amarok07:59
ubotuamarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 7630 kB, installed size 18672 kB07:59
Healotthe lastest of ubuntu is 1.3.9, i guess KDE's site has the latest07:59
imbrandonSnake: i will pkg them later08:00
Snakeimbrandon: getem up man!08:00
SnakeHealot: Im aware of that, 1.4.1 was just released, Didnt expect them to be repoed :)08:00
Healoti guess you can always package it yourself08:00
SnakeI know, but that takes time08:01
SnakeBut I might just do that08:01
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raphinkSnake: hmmm for your interest, developers run make quite all the time08:01
raphinkoften on their own machines08:01
raphinkso you can have packages08:01
Snakeraphink: huh?08:01
raphinkSnake: we have to make and test packages, so we run it all the time ;)08:02
Snakeraphink: Oh, I know, but you signed up for that deal :P08:02
imbrandonSnake: just keep my repo in your sources , when i package it it will replace the 1.4.1beta1 youj have installed08:02
raphinkI know no other way to build packages than to ... err ... build them :)08:02
Snakeimbrandon: i lost that08:02
Snakeimbrandon: reformated08:02
unix_infideldoes anyone know of an equivalent to mandriva's rebootin script?08:02
imbrandonSnake: ok np when i get done i'll tell you how to add it , it will be a few hours08:02
unix_infidelother than just changing the default in grub.08:03
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raphinkunix_infidel: mandriva's rebootin script? what does it do?08:03
Snakeimbrandon: im just buildin my own, my machine hasnt worked to hard for a while :)08:03
imbrandonlol ok08:03
unix_infidelraphink: it lets you pass a string to the script that says reboot in with this OS mentioned in lilo.08:03
unix_infidelso you dont have to sit there while your system goes to reboot and then POST and then grub.08:03
raphinkunix_infidel: there's such an option in grub, but it's turned of in ubuntu because grub has been patched in ubuntu08:03
Snakeimbrandon: LOL @ The amarok homepage!!08:03
raphinkso it doesn't work08:03
SnakeScientists have discovered a new species, a species that doesn't eat, doesn't sleep, and doesn't socialize. They have named this species Amarok developers08:03
raphinkunix_infidel: you should talk about that with mvo if you want it implemented08:04
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raphinkunix_infidel: yep, mvo :)08:04
unix_infideli'm assuming he's a dev?08:04
raphinkalthough he's not online right now it seems08:04
imbrandonunix_infidel: yes08:04
raphinkunix_infidel: https://launchpad.net/people/mvo08:05
raphinkhe is the one responsible for grub08:05
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unix_infidelraphink: thanks. I'll talk to him if I ever see him around here...or shoot him an email or something.08:05
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unix_infidelLOL, he looks like suns's CEO08:06
Snakeimbrandon: oooo I found an amarok debby :)08:07
Snakeexcept it doesnt work08:08
raphinkisn't there one on kubuntu.org too Snake?08:09
raphinkSnake: otherwise, ask jpatrick when he's online08:09
raphinkhe takes care of amarok repackaging lately08:09
Snakeraphink: not a 1.4.108:09
Snakea 1.4.0a08:09
raphinkSnake: ask jpatrick when he'll be there08:09
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Snakeraphink: mhmm08:10
imbrandonraphink: not 1.4.1 and i've been packaging the kubuntu.org ones ;)08:10
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raphinkfrom 1.4.0a to 1.4.1 should be only an uupdate away to update the package08:10
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imbrandonmoins Hobbsee08:10
raphinkhi Seveas && Hobbsee08:10
imbrandonheya Seveas08:10
Snakeim off to bed08:12
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Hobbseehey imbrandon and raphink08:13
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mebsdis ubuntu a live linux os?08:20
mebsdis mplayer included in ubuntu?08:20
wordmebsd: can be and not sure but i have it...08:21
crimsunmebsd: when run from the live cd, yes08:21
crimsunmebsd: mplayer is not included on the cd. It's available in multiverse.08:21
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:21
SpAwNmebsd: ^^ see that about mplayer08:21
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mebsdso where is the list for software in kubuntu live cd08:23
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ubotuSeveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages08:25
ubotuI know nothing about healot08:25
Healotjust checking your repos08:26
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posthumandoes anyone know of a program that can record what you do on your desktop (visually..ie make a video file).  I want to show someone what xgl can do.08:27
exceswaterposthuman: i know something like that for win... fraps :D08:28
exceswaterbut i dunno for linux08:28
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OODposthuman: http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/06/30/how-to-record-videos-of-your-desktop/08:32
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exceswaterLunar_Raven: here it is08:32
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Zairewell that seriously bombed out on me08:33
SpAwNhow come the the nvidia-glx driver is supposedly the same one as off the official site....but the one that ubuntu installs  fails the tests that cedega runs?08:33
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exceswateri think we should investigate this mulder :d08:33
SpAwNwhere as b4 when i manualy installed the driver everything passed08:33
exceswaterwhat i gave you it's trial08:34
exceswaterbut :D enough i hope for what u need08:35
Zairecan anyone tell me whats wrong with this and why I can't restart X server when I use this config http://pastebin.ca/7933108:35
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stallion88hi everybody08:39
stallion88anybody knows how to compile??08:40
Healotgcc source.c?08:40
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)08:40
lowtechZaire: whats it doing?08:41
stallion88thanks! :)08:41
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ZaireI cant restart X server I get an error08:47
WarOfAttritionZaire: what does it say?08:47
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Zairejsec while I get the piece of paper with it on it08:51
TalentedChimpi work in a korean environment - i am the ony person using an english OS - when using the smb browser in konqueror the workgroup names show as garbage08:52
TalentedChimp... so do the computer names, but the folder names are ok (displayed in korean)08:53
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Zairefatal server error: no screens found XI0: fatal I0 error 104 (connection reset by peer) 0 Xserver ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.08:53
TalentedChimpswitching dm language to korean doesn't help08:53
TalentedChimpinstalling the korean kde i18n package didn't help08:54
WarOfAttritionZaire: that's the entire message?08:54
TalentedChimpdoes anyone have any clues or know where i can get help to resolve this issue?08:55
WarOfAttritiondoes it say anything about "error in line" or something like that?08:55
Zairenot that I know of08:55
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TalentedChimpPS. all other OS's are windows08:55
WarOfAttritionwas it working before?08:56
Zairethat was the whole message and the thing is I followed a help guide for the xorg settings08:56
WarOfAttritionTalentedChimp: I know it's not what you're asking, but I know the gnome setup displays asian text just fine.08:57
Zaireyea my original xorg worked fine I had to restore it to fixe the problem08:57
WarOfAttritionZaire: then it should be telling you which line is the problem?08:58
TalentedChimphmm, i don't like gnome08:58
lowtechZaire: When it fails you need to look at /var/log/xorg.0.log for more on the error08:58
TalentedChimpbut thanks for the info08:58
lowtechhm, might be Xorg.0.log08:59
TalentedChimpbut it's not about displaying asian text (like on web pages and such - that works fine) it's just the workgroup and computer names in the SMB browser08:59
unix_infidelhey lowtech08:59
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Zairedamn this thing is being a pain09:00
TalentedChimpsmb4k doesn't work09:00
lowtechhey unix_infidel09:01
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WarOfAttritionTalentedChimp: Yes I knew what you meant, nautilus and everything displays those texts fine09:01
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ZaireWarOfAttrition: heres the xorg log http://pastebin.ca/7933909:02
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TalentedChimpok, installing nautilus now09:02
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WarOfAttritionTalentedChimp: that's a gnome file manager though, you know that right09:03
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TalentedChimpi know it can be done, there's a korean distro called Haansoft Linux in which it displays fine09:04
TalentedChimp...in kde09:04
WarOfAttritionZaire: do you have a wacom tablet installed?09:05
Zairewth is a wacom tablet lol09:06
WarOfAttritionthat's what's giving you the error, there is no /dev/wacom09:06
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lowtechgraphics tablet09:07
WarOfAttritionit's an input device, but if that's not what you're trying to install, then there is your error09:07
bam_a sweet one at that09:07
Zairek so how do I fix it09:07
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bam_dunno ..I have only used one in...gulp...dare I say it09:08
lowtechget a wacom tablet. heh09:08
WarOfAttritiontry blanking out all "Section"s that include anything with wacom particularly /dev/wacom09:08
lowtechi'd say comment out everything for wacom09:08
Zairedunno where anything like that would be located in the xorg09:08
navinoops. sorry09:08
WarOfAttritionZaire: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf as root09:09
navinme new at irc!!09:09
WarOfAttritionsudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:09
ZaireI know about editing in command its just odd that anything like that would give me trouble when I didn't even add it09:09
lowtechZaire: you'll see them as you rea through it09:09
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WarOfAttritionit's there by default, I don't know why, since the /dev/wacom is the serial tablet, and they don't even sell those anymore09:10
lowtechmake sure you get the Section and End Sections09:10
TalentedChimpnautilus tells me "smb:/// is not a valid location"09:11
Zairefound it but then why does the problem only occur when the xorg is modified09:12
lowtechZaire was also getting a lot of warnings on the generic monitor for refresh rates, those might also need checked09:12
WarOfAttritionthat's the config for x server09:12
WarOfAttritionTalentedChimp: it was bound not to work, you probably need the ubuntu install altogether09:13
Zairewell I know that but once its modified it give the error not before despite the wacom lines are there by default09:13
TalentedChimpinstalling gnome, seeing if that helps, if not then reinstall Ubuntu09:13
TalentedChimp152 packages09:14
ubuntu_how do i change servers09:14
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alexiconhas anyone here had weird problems with audio encoding/decoding09:15
alexiconand or with amarok and xine sound devices...09:15
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TalentedChimpdoes anyone have experience of setting up/using the Wildfire Jabber server?09:16
Healotthe developers?09:18
larson9999lowtech yeah, what's the wacom stuff?  it gets put into my xorg, too.09:19
Zairebrb gonna restart X09:19
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Zaireok kdm restarted however I still don't have dual monitors09:20
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TalentedChimpwacom is a graphics/drawing tablet09:20
TalentedChimpwacom tablet is anyway - i'm sure they make other stuff09:20
larson9999TalentedChimp: i know that but i don't have one so i'm curious why it gets added to my xorg09:21
larson9999xorg.conf that is09:21
WarOfAttritionfor compatibility.09:21
Zairedamnit and now kubuntu is only detecting 1 monitor09:21
WarOfAttritionthe sad thing is, even when you have one, you still have to configure xorg to get it right09:21
larson9999WarOfAttrition: shouldn't it get added only if i have one?09:21
WarOfAttritionlarson9999: that's what I would do09:22
larson9999WarOfAttrition: unless i'm bonkers the other distros i've tried don't put it in09:22
larson9999oh well.09:22
WarOfAttritionlarson9999: I've seen some that do09:23
WarOfAttritionbut strangely, they were missing the usb hookups, so they didn't even work.09:23
larson9999actually i do have a tablet somewhere but not a pen for it so i've never used it09:23
WarOfAttritionI have an old tablet, need to get a new one09:24
lowtechZaire: what is the second monitor?09:24
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TalentedChimpnot in Mandriva09:24
Zaireboth are CRT I have a Hansol 17" and a Sceptre 17"09:24
Zaireone is using a DVi to VGa converter09:25
lowtechoh, ok09:25
larson9999WarOfAttrition: you do need a special pen to use them, right?09:26
lowtechi forgot to ask Hawkwind for a copy of his xorg.conf for dual monitors09:26
WarOfAttritionlarson9999: it usually comes with the tablet09:26
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larson9999WarOfAttrition: not all the time when you buy one for 15 cents at a yard sale09:26
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WarOfAttritionlarson9999: nope, but new, I mean09:27
lowtechi've never seen the pen sold separatly09:27
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WarOfAttritionwell you can buy spare pens09:27
larson9999WarOfAttrition: just trying to confirm that i can't use this without buying a stylus.  the pens are on ebay separately09:27
Zaireok I hate my Nvidia so very much09:28
WarOfAttritionlarson9999: there's a good chance it's broken if you got it for 15 cents09:28
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lowtechoh, nice09:28
larson9999the pens are expensive.09:28
WarOfAttritionyou should see the tablets09:28
WarOfAttritionthe one I'm eyeing costs 50009:28
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bioticproI need help configuring a playstation style usb controller in kde, can someone help?09:29
lowtechZaire: just a config problem. if you can wait till tomorrow i can get a working xorg.conf you can compare to.09:29
Zairek cause its P**sing me off that I don't have dual monitors lol09:30
larson9999WarOfAttrition: i buy almost all my hw on the cheap and have pretty good success actually. even with 'bad' hds.  i low level format fixes them pretty well (knock on wood).  i just looked and i actually have two tablets.  look like the same model. light blue in color.  but no pens.09:30
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WarOfAttritionlarson9999: probably graphire2s09:31
lowtechZaire: ok, catch me tomorrow09:31
larson9999zaire i think you're in trouble in linux if you don't like nvidia.  at least i always hear that ati is worse.09:31
lowtechati is ok, but way harder to set up09:31
Zairedunno a friend of mine uses Kubuntu and has an X80009:31
larson9999WarOfAttrition: i'm in business if i can find a 15 cent pen :)09:31
WarOfAttritionlarson9999: like I said, don't get your hopes up for that price. they probably tossed it for a reason09:32
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ZaireI want to buy a graphics pad for doing Case mod designs lol09:32
larson9999WarOfAttrition: i know won works as a friend tested it.09:32
larson9999but that was a couple years ago09:33
WarOfAttritionlarson9999: well you could get a pen fairly cheap09:33
larson9999WarOfAttrition: last i looked $30 was the cheapest i could find09:33
WarOfAttritionthat's a rip off09:34
larson9999WarOfAttrition: what does the pen have in it something that tells the tablet where it is?09:34
WarOfAttritionI was stupid enough to pay $10 for new pen nibs. Used the pen so much the tip wore down09:34
larson9999WarOfAttrition: what should one cost?09:34
WarOfAttritionlarson9999: yea something like that. it's some kind of electro-static positioning09:35
lowtechand pressure sensor09:35
bam_how would one download all files in one directory using wget?09:35
WarOfAttritionlarson9999: not sure, check www.wacom.com09:35
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WarOfAttritionoh yea that too, pressure09:36
lowtechbam_: *.* ?09:36
bam_tried...gave atitude09:36
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thompawhy do i get nvidia logo on some computers but not this one?09:37
larson9999WarOfAttrition: seems the $30 is still the price on ebay09:38
WarOfAttritionlarson9999: sounds bad to me for a tablet that's not guaranteed to work well09:39
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larson9999WarOfAttrition: yeah, i didn't want to shell out $30 for something i don't know if i'd like to use even if it does work well09:40
thompais there any kind of hardware diagnostic tool?09:40
WarOfAttritionlarson9999: to use as a mouse a tablet is annoying fast09:41
lowtechthompa: is it a faster box with a faster/better video card?09:41
thompaits a 660 card09:41
thompaits already acting wierd again09:41
thompaopenoffice text seems to melt09:41
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thompanew power supply, 1G ram, but the no logo thing worries me again09:42
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Zairemine doesn't give the logo either09:42
thompasometimes the graphics seem to slow down09:43
thompaZaire: are you running nvidia?09:43
lowtechif its a fast box and card, sometimes its too quick09:43
WarOfAttrition    Option "NoLogo" "True" - in the "Device" section will disable it09:43
ZaireXFX FX 520009:43
lowtechwhats 'glxinfo | grep render' say?09:43
thompai saw the logo before09:44
thompabefore dapper that is09:44
Zaireall other distros showed logo for me to but not dapper either09:44
thompadirect rendering: Yes09:44
thompaOpenGL renderer string: GeForce 6600 GT/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!09:44
thompa    GL_NVX_conditional_render, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_lod,09:44
lowtechthen 3D is working09:45
Healotyes, that's a working 3D acceleration09:45
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thompabeen here before, this is a new install on same box, i replaced power supply09:46
Zaireby all other distros I mean mandriva, mandrake, redhat 9, fedora core 3, Suse 10.1 64, debian09:46
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WarOfAttritionI don't like the logo, I disable it09:46
thompawhy is openoffice text .. gets wobbly09:46
ZaireI just like to know a driver install worked thats all09:46
Healotare you opening Microsoft Office files? thompa09:46
thompai dont like the logo but was thinking something is not installed right09:46
WarOfAttritionnvidia has been fairly reliable on linux for me09:47
thompano im just typing09:47
Zairesame here09:47
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Zaireredhat 9 forces me to install in text mode then install my drivers before I can boot into the GUI but my friends ATi worked right off09:48
larson9999everyonce in a while one of the drivers will do something funny like display all borked up after leaving x09:48
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thompalast time i lost half my document09:48
tulgaI need install nvidia driver. but nvidia require custom kernel. please send me howto guide URL.09:48
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Riisis their a livecd version of kubuntu?09:48
larson9999Riis: yep09:49
scheuriRiis: check www.kubuntu.org09:49
thompamaybe my montitor settings are off, its 1440x900 lcd09:49
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larson9999is there a09:50
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:50
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Riishmm, which image do I download?09:50
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larson9999Riis: i think livecd is in the name09:50
scheuriRiis: for LIVECD its the "desktop CD"09:51
scheuriRiis: the "desktop CD" has the livecd feature...the others (server and alternate) dont09:51
jc-dentonmy muet, vol up/down keys stopped to work09:52
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jc-dentonand i don't know why09:52
Riisscheuri: ok, thanks09:52
Zaireok UT2k4 install looks wierd compared to before09:52
scheuriRiis: very welcome09:52
jc-dentonbut i choosed the right keyboard, because it worked earlier09:52
scheuriam I still here09:53
scheuriyes...sorry...mangled my rj4509:53
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Zairewhy is it I can get Unreal Tourny 2004 to install and run on redhat 9 but no other linux distros10:01
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bioticproZaire: works fine in PClinuxOS, just go grab the SuperGamer version, comes with Americas Army, UT2004, Quake4, Doom3... and more10:01
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alexiconZaire: it works fine for me on gentoo10:02
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Ademan_what should a windows XP kernal look like in the /boot/grub/menu.lst10:02
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Healottitle           Windows NT/2000/XP10:03
Healotroot            (hd0,0)10:03
Healotchainloader     +1 >> just like that10:03
Zairedunno Ive only ever gotten UT2k4 to run on redhat 9 albeit without audio10:03
HealotWindows doesn;'t have kernel entry like Linux...10:04
Zaireyea in bootloaders Ive seen it shows up as Dos10:04
Healotit's the legacy bs of grub... it still see Windows as DOS hohohoho10:05
ZaireI laugh at it, its funny lol10:05
Healotbecause the boot loader is the practically the same...10:05
koshit is not a legacy bs10:05
koshwindows even up through w2k3 boots the same way that dos does10:05
Healotit's a bs anyways...10:05
Zairewindows sux anyway so I find it amusing lol10:06
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koshand last I heard there is no good way to detect which type of system it is so why should it matter?10:06
Healotwindows doesn't suck, DOS does :)10:06
koshwhy does a title of Dos or Windows NT or whatever make any difference?10:06
Zaire.......nah Im pretty sure windows sux lol10:06
Healotkosh: cause it is a bs?10:07
LynoureLately I have been trying to specify which windows I mean, MS windows or X windows or what...10:07
koshtry doing large database develoment on windows and then tell me it doesn't suck10:07
koshHealot: why do you say it is bs, can you be specific in any way?10:07
Zairetry doing anything on windows then telling me it doesn't suck lol10:07
koshit is good for games10:07
HealotWhy, because my grub entry automatically put Windows XP :)10:07
koshand what is wrong with that?10:08
HealotDOS? give me a break10:08
ZaireI would rather not play games then run windows10:08
koshhealot you are just trolling10:08
koshyou have not given a single actual arguement10:08
HealotI think other distros grub still do the DOS thing...10:08
koshthankfully irc clients have ignore :) byebye10:09
Zaireactually Lilo does to10:09
Healotnot talking to you in the first place10:09
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Zaireat this point nothing said positive towards windows will change my view of the spyware adware and malware ridden OC10:10
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vltHello. I have a problem with "gam_server" consuming 20 % cpu per user once a day. How to fix that on a fresh kubuntu Dapper (updated)?10:14
ZaireWARNING: ALC_EXT_capture is subject to change!10:15
ZaireCouldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual10:15
ZaireExiting due to error10:15
Zaireand UT does it again10:16
Zairegah and no package candidate for xmms10:19
Healot!info xmms10:19
ubotuxmms: Versatile X audio player. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1029 kB, installed size 7256 kB10:19
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RawSewagewhats the difference between info and without info10:21
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ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage10:22
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TheHighChilddoes anyone know how to set kwallet to once per login?10:34
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Healotsave a password, and next re-enter the password, and kwallet will prompt you about the password "Allow Once", etc...10:37
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TrackilizerI set the default MP3 player to XMMS, but everytime i click on a MP3 it is opened by amarok.10:38
TrackilizerHow do i change this?10:38
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TheHighChildTrackilizer: Where did you change the file association at?10:40
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jentonwhat tool can I use to concat mpeg4 .avi files?10:40
TheHighChildalso, are you able to right click and "open with" xmms?10:40
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TrackilizerI right clicked on an MP3 file, went to open with and chose the option to remeber to  use that ap to open MP3s10:41
TrackilizerBut then after simply clicking on a MP3 file, it was opend by amarok, instead of XMMS10:41
TheHighChildTrackilizer: Right click on any mp3 and select 'properties'10:41
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TheHighChildTrackilizer: then click the little wrench below the filename10:42
TheHighChildTrackilizer: make sure that xmms is at the top of that list10:42
TrackilizerCRAP! everything just froze, be back in a bit!10:42
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Electryfieranyone know where to find the Qt libraries?10:53
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Electryfieranyone know where to find the Qt libraries?10:53
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chjHi. Could anyone please tell me how to disable Konqueror showing links in little yellow boxes when ctrl is pressed?10:56
Electryfierdon't ask me, I need help to find Qt libraries10:57
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DunedanHi guys! Does anybody know a tutorial to install kubuntu on a MacBook? Or does anybody have done that?11:27
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krinnshi all11:40
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krinnsi want to highpoint rocket raid card on kubuntu11:41
krinnson high point site i got opensource driver11:41
krinnsnow how i compile it and at boot kubuntu can pick it up11:41
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ubuntu_I reinstalled system and I backup all deb files from /var/cache/apt. Can i use these files now? because my connection very slow for update11:48
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franz_how can I install a button on my panel to show/hide desktop/running programs ?  It was there on a different distribution i used before kubuntu11:53
cox377does anyone here use winamp under linux?11:55
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robcox377, try xmms or something else instead :)11:56
cox377yeh, do use xmms but do love the old winamp11:56
cox377:            )11:56
robtried bmp?11:57
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robor even amarok11:57
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mebsdhow do i make dsl connection with kubuntu12:01
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emonkeymebsd, pppoeconf12:06
ubotuI know nothing about ppoeconf12:06
ubotuI know nothing about pppoeconf12:06
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ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE12:06
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cox377how do you mount a share drive so you can stream right from it?12:15
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ubuntu__what packages will need to be installed in order to build the cvs version of the rt2500 drive?12:31
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azcazandcohello folks12:31
azcazandcoCan anybody help me find where my kde theme manager is?  I think I managed to install a theme but have no idea where to access the manager :(12:31
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azcazandcoI am running kubuntu12:31
azcazandcoalso, cannot find a nice click and show desktop function in kubuntu like there is in gnome, am I missing something stupid?12:32
Emessanyone know of a site that ahs some info on how kubuntu and kde in general do that crystal effect on their art?12:33
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arsoi need help12:42
arsoanyone out here?12:42
azcazandcoanyone able to help?12:43
arsoi need help12:43
arsoanyone out there12:43
arsorami213123213:  please shut up12:43
rami213123213khalas okay12:43
arsoman this place is full at night12:43
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arsoeveryones at work12:43
arsotheres a guy from  kuwait he's indian, he helps a lot12:44
rami213123213i am in suse chat12:45
arsoi am leaving12:45
arsoi am gonna go to windows12:45
arsoi found osmething on the drivers site12:45
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arso1234goddamn it i need help12:55
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arso1234 The ext2fs.sys driver did not mount that volume for some reason, or it mounted it read-only.12:56
arso1234Please run the mountdiag diagnosis tool, which you can download here: mountdiag.exe.12:56
arso1234Please run it at the command prompt and give it the letter of the drive you want to examine, for example:12:56
arso1234mountdiag G:12:56
arso1234The tool will give you a hint on how to resolve the problem. (Note: The mountdiag tool reads data only; it does not attempt to modify anything.)12:56
arso1234omg i am screwed12:57
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arso1234i am using12:59
arso1234fs driver12:59
arso1234to run ext3 on windows12:59
arso1234worked fine for a week12:59
arso1234but today12:59
arso1234it aint working12:59
arso1234i get"not formatted, wanna format"12:59
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Riddell** testers needed:  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141/ dapper main01:25
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Jack1can so help? i have a laserjet 1020 hp printer, it is installed and works after installation onetime fine. however if i want to print sth later (in dapper) it just does nothing..no error message..and the device is recognised properly!01:50
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Jack1dont worry i have found a way now thx01:54
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monomaniacpatkubuntu has over-written some gnome options. I don't like it - how can I return gnome to it's former glory?02:07
senseimonomaniacpat: Probably you can't, unless you've made some backup02:08
monomaniacpatsensei: would kubuntu retain priority if I had installed it first and then installed ubuntu-desktop?02:08
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senseiDon't know how kubuntu works on that level really, but that doesn't sound likely02:09
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monomaniacpatsensei: could I try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop? It would work because it's a meta-package? How would I find out the relevent packages?02:10
senseiNo idea really, but I assume reinstalling ubuntu-desktop would work02:11
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snikkerwhat serial console software con i use for read from serial line?02:35
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Philip5serial line?02:36
snikkerPhilip5: serial port02:36
snikkerv3ctor: ok now i try02:37
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serveriI need graphical interface for mysql. Tell me, what name of the package?02:42
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_Shade_hi there02:43
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thilak123hey world's most secure Instant messenger has arrived02:44
Dannilonglegs_it has?02:44
Dannilonglegs_What is it?02:44
thilak123its open source02:44
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Dannilionthat's good02:45
Dannilionwhat's it called02:45
thilak123its called CSpace02:45
thilak123Its Peer to peer02:45
thilak123and you can text chat, share files, remote desktop02:45
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Dannilionsounds good for everyone who isn't on a throttling ISP02:46
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Jack1hi i hvae probs with a printer in kubuntu dapper, all done what is said there it still doesnt work...http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/.02:47
Jack1i dont get it02:47
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Jack1sensei hi+02:56
Jack1are u there?02:56
Jack1hi i hvae probs with a printer in  dapper, all done what is said there it still doesnt work...http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/.02:59
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Jack1anone any idea?02:59
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senseiI wouldn't touch someone elses printing problems with a 10 ft pole03:02
Jack1hi you..no its just it works one time after install..then not anymore..it says the firmware has to sent evyrtime to the device03:03
Jack1as if the hotplug wouldnt work03:03
Jack1sensei what he wrote there and what i read in the forums it should work and it sounds sane doesnt it?http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/03:04
senseiI wouldn't touch someone elses printing problems with a 10 ft pole03:04
Jack1well ok03:05
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Jack1why not?03:05
senseiBecause they're a drag03:05
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Jack1what do u mean? well i see its really not easy it wasnt in breezy too03:06
Jack1the drivers and dapper03:06
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jakke77now i have kubuntu \,,/03:10
senseiCongrats jakke7703:11
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centyxgreetings programs03:11
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jakke77no i need need start remove "some" programms :)03:13
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wimpiesanybody here that can help me with a samba setup ?03:16
senseiwimpies: Just ask a question instead03:17
wimpieswell it was because it was a bit off topic.03:17
senseiIf someone can and want to he/she probably will ;)03:17
senseisamba is a part of kubuntu afaik03:17
wimpiesif smbclient works for some user /share but the windows XP client cannot connect03:17
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wimpiesclaing 'the account is not authorized to log in from this station'03:18
wimpieswhat might be wrong ?03:18
bobbinHello...can anybody here help me with a TKinter problem I have with a Python script I'm trying to write?03:18
wimpiesI tried to 'up' the loglevel to get more info messages but I seem unable to change it to some more detailed level03:18
senseiAre you intentionally using domains ?03:19
wimpieseuh no03:19
wimpiesjust a desktop with a laptop03:19
senseiAre you using domains? :)03:19
wimpieswell I am not sure03:19
senseiPost your conf on pastebin03:19
wimpiesok ... hold on03:20
centyxusing kontact, i'm trying to use an imap resource for storing my data. when i try to save a todo or journal entry, i get "no writable resource found"03:20
senseibobbin: Just ask, or try #python03:20
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centyxi've set my imap resource as default03:20
centyxany ideas?03:20
senseiSet up a writable resource? ;)03:20
serveriI can't compile Digest::SHA1 perl module on Ubuntu 6.06 for AMD x 6403:21
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centyxsensei: I thought I had done that. I'm using uw-imap. I created a directory and the subfolders under it using kmail03:22
bobbinsensei: All I wanted to do was get a loop running to update the positions of some unpacked canvas items. But between the example program and the one I'm working on the loop falls flat.03:23
serveriHelp to compile Digest::SHA1 perl module on Ubuntu 6.06 for AMDx6403:23
senseiwimpies: I'm no samba ninja to be honest, but try adding security = user03:24
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SinnerGhmm got a problem03:24
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SinnerGAll my keys work on my keyb except the ones where I need to press Alt Gr :s03:25
senseibobbin: Okay, I can't help you without looking at the code, and that question is more suitable for #python really03:25
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wimpiessensei : nope ... i think it is default.  I use swat to admin samba and it shows 'user' security03:26
senseiAh ok03:26
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SinnerGand when I run setxkbmap I also get a segfault :s03:27
senseiwimpies: Since I'm neither a samba ninja and most certainly not a windows one, I'm out of ideas03:27
senseiSinnerG: Have you tried KDEs keyboard tools ?03:27
SinnerGhmm whats the name?03:28
SinnerGAnd if you mean settings : its correct there03:28
SinnerGBelgian KB03:28
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sinnerggrmbbl :p03:29
sinnerganyway to disable enter <remove thingy? :P03:29
sinnergI seem to have the habbit of pressing it alot of times ;p03:29
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senseiIn kcontrol -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard layout ?03:29
sinnergor shift <remove thingy03:29
sinnergwhatever ;p03:29
sinnergbeen there sensei03:29
sinnergits correct03:29
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sinnergonly my 3th keys wont work03:30
sinnerglike the pipe one :s03:30
sinnergbut when I'm in pure console03:30
sinnergit does work03:30
sinnergwithout X loaded that is03:30
wimpiessensei : got it, fwiw it was encrypt password that has to be set to 'yes'03:31
senseiwimpies: Ooh, I'll remember that one03:32
senseisinnerg: It's not just the language, have you set the correct keyboard model?03:33
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ahmuck_jr! wireless03:33
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:33
sinnergwell, its just a general keyb03:33
senseisinnerg: Still, play around with those settings03:34
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sinnergand what about that setkb cmd that is segfaulting?03:35
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ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:41
ubotuI know nothing about ogg03:42
DaSkreechSilly bot :)03:42
centyxok, I've tried w/ courier-imap now as well.03:42
centyxkmail automatically created the folders03:42
centyxbut it still sais no writable resource03:42
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serveriI need graphic administrative interface for MySQL03:47
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hereticHey all03:48
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Heretic_01Im finally on ubuntu03:48
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Philip5serveri: there are both webbase and others03:48
centyxHeretic_01: :)03:49
imbrandonserveri: mysqladmin ?03:49
Heretic_01centyx:  mate.03:49
Heretic_01How do i, install java for firefox :S03:50
Heretic_01I have no idea, could you please help me.03:50
imbrandongood job Heretic_0103:50
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository03:50
Heretic_01i also managed to install my driver from that package manager :S03:50
Heretic_01or whatever it is.03:50
Heretic_01i just ticked the box and went apply03:51
Heretic_01is that all i needed to do.03:51
Heretic_01afer that it downloaded it.03:51
centyxok this is weird.  everytime i start up kontact, it tells me that it needs to create the resource folders ( even tho it's already created them ).03:51
imbrandoncentyx: are they readable ?03:52
Heretic_01also i have another hardrive03:52
Heretic_01it wont let me access03:52
Heretic_01a slave :(03:52
Heretic_01with all my music on it.03:52
Heretic_01and it says it cant "mount" it or something :S03:52
ubotuDisks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks03:52
DaSkreechWhoops:) Ignore that :)03:52
Heretic_01and also whats good for playing Mp3s :O03:53
Heretic_01where can i get that lol03:53
Heretic_01Sorry for being a n00b03:54
Heretic_01thankyou mate.03:54
Heretic_01Im over windows.03:54
centyximbrandon: good question03:54
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imbrandoncentyx: you know how to check or do you need me to walk you though it >03:54
centyximbrandon: i got it03:54
centyximbrandon: thanks03:55
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ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:55
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lucasi cant find the package "libxine-extracodecs" in Adept03:55
imbrandonlucas: you need universe and multibverse enabled03:56
ubotuI know nothing about libxine-extracodecss03:56
ubotuI know nothing about libxine-extracodecs03:56
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource03:56
senseiIsn't there something similar to that? o.O03:56
Heretic_01when i drag a box... on the desktop.03:56
Heretic_01Like click and drag03:56
Heretic_01its really jerky03:56
Heretic_01is that normal?03:56
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:56
senseiShould cover it03:56
imbrandonHeretic_01: all depends on your computer03:56
lucasimbrandon: i have them enabled03:56
centyxI made the permissions on the imap folders match my other imap folders, but kontact's still unable to save  "unable to save"03:57
lucasimbrandon: but still nothing03:57
imbrandonlucas: apparently not, can you pastebin your sources.list ?03:57
lucasimbrandon: yes03:57
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imbrandoncentyx: hmm that was my only idea03:58
imbrandonwait imap ?03:58
centyximbrandon: yea, i'm trying to use an imap resource in kontact03:58
imbrandonwhat about the permissions on the server folder where your imap is stored03:58
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imbrandonsince its imap i would try a diffrent client ( mozilla-thunderbird ) just to rules out the sever and make sure its the client having the problems03:59
imbrandoncentyx: ^^03:59
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centyximbrandon: the mail part's working fine. I'm just trying to use kontact's capability of storing ical data in imap folders04:00
lucasimbrandon: there you are: http://pastebin.ca/7952604:00
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centyximbrandon: funny thing is, my contacts imap folder is working fine, it's just the calendar/journal/tasks ones that aren't working04:01
Heretic_01hey guys04:01
centyxHeretic_01: hey04:01
Heretic_01how do i run that :S04:02
Heretic_01what is it.04:02
centyxopenpgp key04:02
imbrandonHeretic_01: there is instructions on that page04:02
imbrandonlucas: do this .. no quotes04:02
imbrandon" kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list "04:03
imbrandongot that open ?04:03
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imbrandoncopy and paste this in there04:03
imbrandonand save it04:03
imbrandonthen tell me when you got that done04:04
Heretic_01deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main04:04
lucaskdesu didnt work. sudo did04:04
Heretic_01i thoughts that whats i do.04:04
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DaSkreechHeretic_01: Nope :)04:04
DaSkreechHeretic_01: Are you using Adept?04:04
Heretic_01i have no idea.04:04
Heretic_01Im the biggest n00b.04:04
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DaSkreechHeretic_01: Kubuntu or Ubuntu?04:04
DaSkreechI'll assume Kubuntu :)04:04
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DaSkreechok then Menu -> System -> Synaptic04:05
lucasimbrandon: done04:05
bluedragonit seems i cant play sound with amarok ..04:05
bluedragonsystem sounds work with arts04:05
bluedragonbut nothing with amarok :S04:05
imbrandonok lucas paste this whole line in konsole without quotes " sudo apt-get update && apt-get -y install libxine-extracodecs && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade "04:06
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bluedragonsensei: thanks :)04:07
imbrandonbluedragon: what are you trying to play and what version of amarok ?04:07
Heretic_01Could not save the file /etc/apt/sources.list.04:07
bluedragonnewest version04:07
bluedragonone mom04:07
Heretic_01it says i dont have permission04:07
bluedragonnewest in kubuntu04:08
lucasimbrandon: one question: shall i replace my source.list with the one you gave me?04:08
Heretic_01imbrandon:  can we please discuss this in priv i cant keep up mate lol04:08
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imbrandonlucas: yes04:08
lucasimbrandon: k04:08
Heretic_01[00:08]  [505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )04:08
Heretic_01how do i register lol04:08
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imbrandonHeretic_01: check pm again04:09
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration04:09
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centyximbrandon: I got it working. You have to setup your imap account as a "Disconnected IMAP" account04:14
centyxin kmail that is04:15
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DaSkreechHeretic_01: Gtting help?04:22
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HawkwindDaSkreech: I finally got a fix for the two packages we couldn't get updated :)04:26
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DaSkreechHawkwind: Well man don't keep me sweating!!04:27
HawkwindDaSkreech: I documented here on my forums:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=560.004:28
DaSkreechNice name for the forums :)04:28
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HawkwindHeh, thanks :)04:28
jpatrickHawkwind: your sig's got my browser wrong04:30
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DaSkreechHawkwind: Of course. Duh!!!04:32
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HawkwindDaSkreech: What does it say for your browser and what are you actually using ?04:36
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DaSkreechHawkwind: You mean jpatrick?04:37
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jpatrickHawkwind: it says Mozilla instead of Konqueror04:38
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HawkwindDaSkreech: Ooops, it's too early for me to read completely yet :P04:43
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HawkwindDaSkreech: Did it work for ya ?04:54
DaSkreechI'd need to try it :)04:54
HawkwindWell get busy will ya :P04:54
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DaSkreechI'm trying to find out the best collabrative project planning software04:55
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bill[1] I'm running kdevelop on ubuntu (not kubuntu) and its horribley unstable.  Is it this way in kubuntu too?04:58
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h3sp4wnCan anyone tell me what I need to put in Section "Screen" in xorg.conf to force it to use 60hz ? (It keeps on using 75)05:06
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ray_Hi there all, my question is how do I block email addresses, like without a name, but the assdess from a sever, in Evolution, ands is it possible05:12
ray_sorry about spelling mistakes05:13
DaSkreechIn kontact?05:13
ray_come again05:13
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bluedragon_anyone can tell me what kind of group is the "dialout" and "dip" group? what are they for ?05:15
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ray_gee--- there is sooooo munh going on in here05:17
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DaSkreechbluedragon_: I would guess dialup05:21
kankokaamarok 1.4.1 :D05:21
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gemidjyAmarok 1.4.1 is awsome05:22
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larson9999linux rocks!05:23
kankokabut i cant listen lastfm streams :*(05:23
gemidjykankoka: why?05:24
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kankokai read a article where05:24
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bluedragon_hm sry.. wlan isnt such a stable connection :S05:25
bluedragon_now my question again, what is the "dip" group for?05:25
kankokafor listen lastfm radios by firefox05:25
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kankokabut dont work me05:25
bluedragon_?? a group for listening lastfm radios ??05:26
bluedragon_hm sry probably wasnt for me^^05:26
DaSkreechkankoka: Try it in amarok :)05:26
hereticyou there mate?05:27
kankokaDaSkreech: mmm05:27
kankokaill search a bit more05:27
larson9999bluedragon_: dip is the group in which my says i belong05:28
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hereticimbrandon: mate, i didnt catch your MSN.05:32
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larson9999if i compress a mount with rar and the file gets too big, will it 'split itself' into more than one file or is there something i have to do to make that happen?05:36
mcscruffhi, i have a shared (samba) hdd, mounted as /Storage on my Desktop pc , but the permissions are all messed up and i cant write to some dirs without being root, is there anyway i can change it so all the folders can be written to by anyone?05:36
larson9999mcscruff i think 'sudo chmod -R 777 /Storage' should do it05:37
larson9999mcscruff: you can 'man chmod' to check my syntax05:38
mcscruffkk ty05:38
mcscruffwill that change all file permissions too#?05:38
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larson9999mcsruff the -R should be recursive meaning it'll include files and subdirectories.  you might need a * i forget as i don't do that much05:39
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DaSkreechlarson9999: Depends on what you are using to do the raring I suspect05:45
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Paradossowhere has the gtk fonts & styles option gone in kcontrol when upgranding to kde 3.5.3?!05:53
larson9999DaSkreech: either cli or ark05:54
DaSkreechlarson9999: You can get ark to do rar? Sweet :)05:55
larson9999DaSkreech: yeah, if you install rar, ark picks it up like it does the other methods it uses05:55
DaSkreechlarson9999: You bought rar?05:56
DaSkreechYou would think that it can do lz7 :(05:56
GaiaX11How do i translate an English page into another language using mozilla? Is there a moz plugin for that?05:56
larson9999kinda slow though.  it'll take a while for me to get to the point where it needs splitting05:56
larson9999DaSkreech: if you mean did i05:57
larson9999DaSkreech: if you mean did i 'sudo apt-get install rar', yeah05:57
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hereticdoes anyone no the command to get AMSN?06:01
hereticsudo apt-get amsn06:01
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Hobbseeheretic: sudo apt-get install amsn?06:02
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DunedanIs there any possibility to perform a text-based installation of kubuntu?06:04
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gemidjyDunedan: use the Alternate CD06:04
Dunedanalternate cd?06:04
DaSkreechlarson9999: In that kase. i guess so :)06:04
SystematicDubdunedan: scroll down near the bottom of the download page06:05
Dunedanah thx, all right06:05
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Dunedanhm, anybody here who installed kubuntu on a macbook?06:06
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SystematicDubdunedan: the alternates are actually on the mirror sites you go to from the download page :) but you probably got that!  oh and this probably isn't any help but I know you can install on a macs (I've seen it on another kind of mac notebook....powerbook if I'm not mistaken)06:09
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DunedanSystematicDub: There is a big difference between linux on an powerbook and on an macbook06:10
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SystematicDubdunedan: also macbooks are kinda new, right?06:10
SystematicDubdunedan: you can totally tell I am not Mac savvy...hehe06:11
DunedanSystematicDub: yeah. And they use EFI instead of OpenFirmware.06:11
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SystematicDubdunedan: I heard something about that!  Hmmmm well this forum is normally teeming with more replys and answers (must be a slow time) maybe post this question later, and you might catch a macbook user.06:12
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DunedanSystematicDub: I found some tutorials for installations, but until now I couldn't get it completly working. But I'm still trying.06:13
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snikkerwhen i make a .deb pakege for the kernel, i've got this error message: "dpkg-gencontrol: error: package kernel-image- not in control info" how fix it?06:14
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SystematicDubdunedan: ahhh at least you know there are other macbook users!06:17
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DunedanSystematicDub: yes, and some of them are quite good at hacking some drivers :-)06:18
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moparisthebestwhen I delete somthing, where does it go?06:19
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senseimoparisthebest: Depends on how you delete it06:19
moparisthebestbecause it doesnt give me any more space on my harddrive06:19
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moparisthebesti just press delete06:19
moparisthebestso its gotta go someplace i think06:19
bigredradioIs there a PPC channel for kubuntu?06:19
senseimoparisthebest: See the litter bin in your lower right corner ?06:19
larson9999moparisthebest: in konqueror?  if so, it goes to your trash06:19
senseiOr rather, do you see 'a' litter bin06:19
moparisthebestah i do now, lol thanks alot06:20
moparisthebesti knew it was somthign easy06:20
hereticanyone here use amaroK? How do i get mp3 support06:20
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:20
SystematicDubhey noob question but is there a thing you can do to totally delete stuff? (like the shift+del combo in windoze)06:21
senseiheretic: For future questions, may I suggest things like http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=mp3+kubuntu+amarok&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-806:21
senseiShift+del ?06:21
larson9999SystematicDub: yeah, it's shift+del06:22
larson9999SystematicDub: most likely that is if you're in a gui app like konqueror.06:22
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bigredradioIs there a PPC channel for kubuntu?06:23
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DaSkreechbigredradio: This is it06:24
TheHighChildlarson9999: shift+delete works for me06:24
SystematicDublarson9999: okay was a bit afraid to do some button pushing! hehe thanks06:24
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heretic i know about the free formats, but i just want to enable mp3 support in amaroK06:24
senseiSystematicDub: Don't be, you learn by fscking up06:24
senseiheretic: Eh?06:24
DaSkreech!mp3 > heretic06:24
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pussfelleris the standard dapper install cd a LIVE cd, ie one i can use so reinstall grub after i install windows?06:24
senseiDaSkreech: He's an illiterate, don't bother06:24
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larson9999SystematicDub: hopely you've already learned the backing up thing first06:25
TheHighChildpussfeller:  yes, the desktop cd06:25
DaSkreechJust a little slow :) Obviously read the information. Just didn't grok it :006:25
pussfellerthanks TheHighChild06:25
SystematicDubsensei: hehe so true so true!  Tho I just got the thing and I'm pratically gushing over it!06:25
TheHighChildpussfeller: sudo grub-install /dev/***06:25
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SystematicDublarson9999: backing up thing?06:25
larson9999SystematicDub: yeah06:26
larson9999SystematicDub: backing up you're data before you go mucking around06:26
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senseiOr skip it for that authentic adrenaline rush ;)06:27
TheHighChildWhen I started tux, it was a nightmare. I wiped out at least 2 dozen windows installs (or thought I did, I was a noob hehe)06:27
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DaSkreechheretic: Got that ?06:27
SystematicDublarson9999: hehe backing up is a foreign word too me (windoze just won't do it without the install cd)  tho I've kept my machine lean so if it does go down it's no prob....but with kubuntu I'm going too be doing a bit more stuff...so please teach me!06:28
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senseiSystematicDub: Get an extra HD and copy your important stuff to, burn it to a CD or a DVD or whatever06:29
senseiIf you're really serious, get a RAID system06:30
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holoton1I have a network shared SMB folder that I can access like smb://servername/sharedfolder/ . How do I symlink that shared folder to my home directory? Also note that this is in a mobile environment (local computer is a laptop), so the shared folder won't always be available, and I've heard that can cause problems if you don't set it up correctly06:32
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senseiyou don't symlink it, you mount it06:33
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holoton1Mount then symlink? A symlink is what I want in the end, but I do suppose I need to mount it first. How would I go about that?06:33
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SystematicDubsensei: hehe ahhh ok HDD's are out...so is RAID then.  CD's I've tried....but not dvd's.  Oh! or you could transfer the files over to another comp....but thats pretty unsafe!  Oh got to go, thanks everyone!06:36
holoton1sensei: I have tried that - My problem is this being a mobile environment, how do I avoid my laptop hanging when it tries to mount a folder that isn't there?"06:36
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senseiholoton1: There's probably some nifty way of doing it, but I'd hack a bash script together, and ping it and rely on the return code06:38
senseiThen again, I'm not all that picky06:39
senseiI'm not sure, but just maybe a smbmount isn't blocking at all, have you tried?06:41
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holoton1sensei: not yet, I've just heard that it may be the case if you try to mount a samba share, and it isn't there at boot, you could experience a hang..06:43
zorglu1a hang ? or a delay and then it goes on ?06:43
senseiNot a hang longer than the timeout06:43
holoton1either / or06:44
zorglu1maybe you can tune this timeoutthen06:44
holoton1I haven't tested it, as it seemed reasonable, and appeared to be a common problem06:44
senseiNah, not a hang, longer boot time than average, maybe.. But you could always put it in /etc/rc.local  and append a & after it, to fork it06:45
senseiDon't worry :)06:45
holoton1& just says not to wait if the script is delayed, correct?06:45
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senseiNot really, but that's the general effect, yes :)06:46
wilfredHcan anyone tell me who decides where apps go in the k menu? I've found a mistake.06:46
zorglu1Assuming home directories are stored under /home,       edit /etc/auto.master and add the following line "/home /usr/sbin/smbautomount --timeout 60"       # echo "/home /usr/sbin/smbautomount --timeout 60"       >> /etc/auto.master06:46
senseiTry: sleep 10 &06:46
zorglu1from http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/smbfs/06:46
senseiin a terminal06:46
zorglu1holoton1: not that it is a direct solution. but likely a lead to follow06:46
holoton1zorglu1: Thanks!06:46
holoton1I'm learning, slowly but surely.06:47
ubotuYou can browse and search the packages in Ubuntu in synaptic, adept and online on http://packages.ubuntu.com06:47
holoton1You folks may be interested in a project I'm working on here:06:47
senseiWow, never heard of smbautomount06:47
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holoton1thanks again guys, take care!06:51
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linuxproblemhow can i copy an folder06:55
linuxproblemon shell06:55
senseicp -rf dir newname06:55
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linuxproblemwhat is rf?06:55
senseiman cp06:55
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felix_Ehi @all06:55
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linuxproblemon desktop06:56
linuxproblemi want copy the folder on desktop06:56
senseiWhat's stopping you ?06:56
felix_Eanyone been able to get amarok 1.4.x working on kubuntu? amarok-arts doesn't seem to be available for that version. and xine doesn't work with artsd...06:56
linuxproblemhehe i am on with live cd06:56
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senseiThen you have a problem06:56
linuxproblemi have mountet my linux partition !cauz there are the files!06:57
linuxproblemi can see the folder now!06:57
DaSkreechha ha :)06:57
linuxproblembut how can i copy to burn it !?06:57
linuxproblemi only see the files on shell06:58
DaSkreechWhere did you mount it to?06:58
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felix_Eor is there probably a way to enable arts-support for xine?06:59
felix_Ewhy has it been dropped anyway...06:59
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senseifelix_E: I didn't know they had dropped it.. What do you mean exactly ?06:59
linuxproblemthe folder where i want to copy is in /home/cashmoneybrother/desktop/eigeneDateien!  i want copy to desktop on live cd here! can anyone tell me a command for this06:59
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linuxproblemi have chroot to /mnt !07:00
DaSkreechlinuxproblem: You need to be superuser to do that07:00
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DaSkreechfelix_E: I assume you mean in KDE4?07:00
linuxproblemsudo mount! sudo chroot!07:00
linuxproblemi have !superuser rights07:00
senseiIsn't the desktop on the cd or in the ram ?07:00
linuxproblemdesktop from live cd is in ram07:01
chavolinuxproblem, you don't need to chroot07:01
linuxproblemi have chroot07:01
zorglu1linuxproblem: " i want copy to desktop on live cd here!" you will have trouble with that :) you cant write on the live cd..07:01
senseiSo how/why would you want to copy a file to that desktop?07:01
linuxproblemcauz i want to burn it07:01
senseiAnd you must copy it to burn it ?07:01
chavolinuxproblem, why did you chroot, the chroot won't see the cd filesystem07:02
felix_Esensei, daskreech: no, not kde4. im running kde 3.5.3. amarok 1.3.9 works fine with the amarok-arts engine. however, this engine is not available for amarok 1.4.x. xine seems to lack support for arts output as of dapper.07:02
linuxproblemif i dont chroot i cant seee the files07:02
linuxproblemok i tell u aggain! i am now online with live cd! and i want copy files from my linux partiton hda3 ! cauz i cant login there07:02
linuxproblemand i need the files!07:02
linuxproblemso i must copy it on cd!07:02
chavolinuxproblem, youre not listening to us07:03
senseilinuxproblem: Seriously... forget everything.. Just boot the live cd, cd do the mounted drive and run mkisofs and cdrecord on that image for whatever you want to burn07:03
senseiOR, use whatever burn program you want and look the files up and use that07:03
linuxproblemyeah but i cant see the files!07:03
linuxproblemonly on shell07:03
linuxproblemi cant only see files from hard disk mapper07:03
linuxproblemi cant see files from hda3! this is my linux partiton where i cant login!07:04
senseiI give up..07:04
linuxproblemi only see the files in the shell !07:04
zorglu1linuxproblem: relax, slow down and describe your issue in simple words07:04
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senseiHave fun chrooting your ram memory or whatever it is that you're doing07:04
DaSkreechlinuxproblem: If you copy the files to the Desktop they will disappaer07:04
zorglu1linuxproblem: and dont use technical term07:04
linuxproblemok tell me what should i do now?07:05
zorglu1linuxproblem: just told you. slow down, rewind and start again07:05
linuxproblemhow can i copy the files in the shell to desktop?07:07
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felix_Eanyone an idea who might be able to tell me more about the xine-arts thingy? using the kmplayer-part for kaffeine is extremly annoying (not working keyboard-shortcuts and such...)07:07
felix_E... and i'd really like to use that shiny new amarok-version07:07
zorglu1felix_E: if the issue is about amarok, the channel #amarok is quite helpfull07:08
alexiconfelix_E: is yours broken too07:08
linuxproblemalso i tell u all aggain07:08
zorglu1is there a ~/Desktop on ubuntu ?07:08
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alexiconmy amarok-xine cant find sound device07:08
alexiconthe new amarok doesnt work, nor does the 1.3.907:09
linuxproblemmy linux partiton doesnt work! so i am online now with an live CD! and i need files from my linux partition! i have mounted the partion! and cann see the files in the shell now!07:09
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felix_Ezorglu1: actually, its not. its about xine on dapper not supporting arts. and amarok-1.4 on ubuntu not shipping with amarok-arts engine.07:09
mcscruff6797: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)07:09
mcscruffSMB connection failed07:09
mcscruffhelp ^^^07:09
linuxproblemand how can i copy the files on my desktop here07:09
senseilinuxproblem: Forget everything you think you know...07:10
felix_Ealexicon: have you tried using the amarok-arts engine for 1.3.9? that should work fine with arts.07:10
senseiWhat you're suggesting is just flat out rediciolous07:10
alexiconfelix_E: i havent, i dont particularly like arts...07:10
linuxproblemand now07:10
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zorglu1felix_E: ah ok :)07:10
alexiconbut i might give it a go, because i cant get mpdscribble to work for some reason either :'(07:10
mcscrufflinuxproblem: find the files you want to copy in konqueror , right click them and copy, then paste them where you want...07:10
alexiconyeah xine in general has problems on kubuntu07:10
linuxproblemdoesnt work in konqueror07:10
zorglu1sensei: ) linuxproblem: how can i copy the files in the shell to desktop? <- do you know the answer to this one ?07:10
alexiconxine-ui errors as well07:10
linuxproblemi cant see the partiton there!07:10
linuxproblemi dont know the answer07:11
senseizorglu1: I sure do. He's an illiterate ADHD sufferer07:11
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linuxproblemi cant only see in konquerer hard disk mappeR! but its on hda3!07:11
felix_Ealexicon: jep. it seems as if someone has dropped arts support from xine altogether :(07:11
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linuxproblemi am a linux nooooooooob!07:11
alexiconyeah felix_E thats what im seeing07:12
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linuxproblemi have no idea what i can do now!07:12
alexiconfelix_E: does your amarok say it cannot find sound device?07:12
sikor_sxei try to use kpowersafe. therefore i need powersafed, which itsself need acpid, which refuses to run because the "device" is used already, suppossedly by a process kacpid, which i cannot kill. what can i do?07:12
zorglu1sensei: ADHD ?07:12
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senseizorglu1: Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder07:12
alexiconfelix_E: do you think this is just a kde issue? and if i got fluxbox or something else there wouldnt be a device problem?07:13
zorglu1sensei: yep seems a credible diagnostique07:13
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linuxproblemdamn i need the f......ing files07:13
alexiconamarok.. :'(07:13
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CntryboyAnyone know if I can send files through kopete in the aim part?07:14
senseizorglu1: The funny part is that I've told him exactly what to do, but he was too busy driving his own bus that he just woulnd't jump onto mine07:14
sponixalexicon:  its just a freaking mp3/ogg player, fire up xmms, beep-media-player, or something ?07:14
linuxproblemsensei i dont understood it!07:14
alexiconCntryboy: i couldnt send files in kopete07:14
linuxproblemi am german! my english is not the BEST!07:14
Cntryboydoes gaim work good with kde?07:14
alexiconsponix: i like the scrobbler part of amarok <307:14
linuxproblemcan u tell me in simple words what i should do07:14
alexiconi use mpd as my backup player07:14
senseiNoooo? For real? I could never have guessed07:14
alexiconand mpdscribble isnt working on this kubuntu install either07:15
sponixCntryboy:  works fine for me07:15
Cntryboyapt-get install gaim?07:15
felix_Ealexicon: no, not really a kde-issue. but kde uses artsd as default sound daemon. you could always set up software-mixing with alsa and use the alsa-output provided by xine.07:15
sponixCntryboy:  gaim is glib/gtk based07:15
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sponixCntryboy:  sure, apt-get install gaim should work for ya07:15
Cntryboyyup thats it07:16
alexiconfelix_E: my alsamixer is working, so i thought i was using alsa and not arts now07:16
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Cntryboykk thx man07:16
senseialexicon: That's two completely different things07:16
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senseiOn different levels07:16
alexiconyes i know sensi07:16
sponixfek:  yeah, that kinds kills me, why use arts, alsa works prefectly fine ... esd is another example, why bother07:16
alexiconbut neither work frustratingly07:16
sikor_sxehow can i kill kacpid?07:16
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alexiconits a small irk07:16
alexiconbut a definate one07:17
alexiconi really dont like xmms07:17
sponixalexicon:  wtf is a scrobble ?07:17
felix_Ealexicon: artsd probably uses alsa. but as long as you haven't got a proberly working soft- or hardware-mixing config, only one program (artsd!) can use the sound output device concurrently...07:17
senseialexicon: Okay, so it'd be fruitless to try and get artsd going if alsa isn't07:17
alexiconlast.fm sponix07:17
mcscruffHi, im trying to mount a samba share , sudo mount -t smbfs -o rw //mcscruff-desktop/Storage /Storage  ---but i get 6828: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)07:17
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sponixalexicon:  hmm, whats a fm  -- freshmeat ?07:17
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alexiconsponix: http://last.fm its a music site07:17
zorglu1mcscruff: smell like a authorization issue. like wrong username/passwd07:18
alexiconcollects data about what music you listen to07:18
senseisponix: Micronesia07:18
jpatrickalexicon: it is THE music site07:18
felix_Elinuxproblem: didnt quite follow the whole discussion but if you want we could try to get your problem solved in german :)07:18
senseiFederal State of Micronesia07:18
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alexiconhehe yeah jpatrick ;)07:18
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linuxproblemja besser wre das07:18
senseiNot here though07:18
sponixalexicon:  I've got ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu desktops all installed -- and that thingy seems to work just fine for me07:19
linuxproblemfelix in privat ok07:19
sponixalexicon:  of course, I've never tried to open it, or use it, but I think it works :)07:19
alexiconsponix: which version of amarok?07:19
linuxproblemfelix e privat geht bei mir nicht07:19
sponix1.4.0 kde 3.5.307:20
felix_Elinuxproblem: /join #linuxproblem_de07:20
sponixalexicon:  just opened it, seems to work ..07:20
alexiconhm sponix you lucky guy :P07:20
mcscruffzorglu1: i cant mount it but i can see it and have read/write in konqueror tho :S07:20
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sponixalexicon:  what _exactly_ was your issue ?07:20
alexiconthe application runs, it just says it either cant find my sound device, or cant find the audio decoder07:20
alexicon1.4 only has the xine engine which it really doenst seem to like at all07:21
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sponixalexicon:  what sound module (chipset), and what support do you have07:21
Dannilionalexicon, try turning off your system sounds07:21
alexiconhow do i do that Dannilion in kcontrol??07:21
zorglu1mcscruff:  ERRnoaccess (Access denied.) <- this one seems quite clear. your server dont let you read write07:21
zorglu1mcscruff: let you = allow you07:21
alexiconsponix: im not sure sponix its a dell inspiron 600m laptop07:21
Dannilionalexicon: Sound and Multimedia07:21
mcscruffzorglu1: i'll go look back at the setup07:22
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DannilionThere's a tickbox for Enable the System Sounds07:22
Dannilionuntick it, and click apply07:22
Dannilionthen restart amarok and change the engine to xine07:22
alexiconok will try07:22
alexiconactually i thought it might be firefox interfering07:22
alexiconbut i'll try this too07:23
sponixalexicon:  xine is my only sound engine thingy listed ... I've installed mplayer, vlc, xine-ui, totem-xine07:23
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sponixalexicon:  and a couple hundred other multimedia packages ;)07:23
DaSkreechAh I hate kopete :)07:23
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DannilionThere seems to be a bug with alsa and xine not being able to have two sound sources at once07:23
sponixDannilion:  normally similar problems are fixed in a similar fashion -- worth a shot ;)07:23
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alexiconDannilion: ive had thta in the past on other distros too...07:24
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TBKDanBit of a hurry to get something installed... does Kubuntu have the ability to boot off of a USB drive?07:24
sponixDannilion:  alsa in general has had issues with that off and on, OSS use to let me do 8+ sounds pumped in at the same time, different progs, or the same07:24
sponixDaSkreech:  kopete is gay, I still stick with gaim07:24
alexiconnope Dannilion :'( says it cannot find a decoder07:25
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sponixalexicon:  yeah, its not really a distro specific issue07:25
DannilionCan't find a decoder? That's not what I got...07:25
Dannilionyou've installed all the extra codecs?07:25
alexiconpreviously it couldnt find the audio device...07:25
alexiconyeah Dannilion i can listen to mp3s in mpd07:25
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alexiconactually had another problem where that kcdripper thing couldnt find lame encoders either...07:26
alexiconseems to be a lot of audio bugs in this....07:26
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alexiconi might downgrade back to that 1.3.9 version of amarok07:26
DannilionOK, I've actually just managed to fix the sound issue07:29
sponixalexicon:  I'm not really familure with deb's, but can you get a listing of your packages installed and spit them out to a pastebin ?07:29
Dannilionmy one, anyhow07:29
DannilionI changed it all from alsa to oss07:29
Dannilionin KControl and in ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc07:29
sponixkern still has oss backward compat, on 2.6.x riiight ?07:30
sponixor are you using a 2.4.x kern ?07:30
Dannilionhow do I find out?07:30
zorglu1Dannilion: funny as the oss you use is likely emulated by alsa07:30
sponixuname -a07:30
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sponixzorglu1:  yeah, but it does work better at times :)07:30
DannilionI don't care so long as it works :)07:30
alexiconDannilion: so re-enable the sound in kcontrol and use oss instead of autodetect07:31
DannilionLinux Matilda 2.6.15-25-386 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:25:49 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux07:31
DannilionI have07:31
sponixyou all may know how to make lil ubuntu/kubuntu things work, but I sure as hell know a bit more about Linux basics :)07:31
DannilionI don't doubt it07:31
alexiconive used gentoo for 4 years sponix i know stuff07:31
alexiconnot saying audio has ever been a walk in the park07:31
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DannilionMy college course's introduction to Linux wasn't very good07:31
alexiconi just expected it to be easier with this distro ;P07:31
DannilionI know very little, but would like to get better07:32
sponixalexicon:  Summer of 96 I started using slack/fbsd, most of the stuff you're dealing with was a wet dream back then07:32
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DannilionIn 1996 I'd only ever used a BBC Acorn at school :)07:32
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DannilionWe got a Commodore 64 that year, I think07:33
sponixlike I said, its not really a distro issue, sound is sound, config is config -- some things have better defaults, and easier installs, but its all the same under the hood ;)07:33
zorglu1ya bbc acorn :)07:33
zorglu1it was a good computer :)07:33
Dannilionthen in 1997 we got 2 pcs- a 286 and a pentium, which introduced me to the internet07:33
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zorglu1ok i coded unix kernel back in 89, what do i win ?07:34
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alexiconwhich version of amarok we you using again Dannilion? 1.4.0?07:34
Dannilion1.4.0 now07:34
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Dannilionhad the same problem with 1.3.9 though07:34
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sponixDannilion:  Compaq Presario 425 (486 25Mhz) chiped up to 20Meg of ram, with its massive 250Meg HD was my first functional *nix box07:34
alexiconmine still cant find audio decoder for some reason. going to pop back down to 1.3.907:34
DaSkreechWhats the issue?07:34
frankapimentai have 1 prob with amarok07:35
alexiconjoin the club07:35
frankapimentawho want to helpme?07:35
sponixseems like its an amarok issue day07:35
alexiconwhats your issue frankapimenta07:35
DaSkreechWhats the issue?07:35
Dannilionsponix: sounds good07:35
frankapimentaamarok does not work07:35
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alexiconindeed frankapimenta07:35
alexiconwhich version youusing07:35
frankapimentabecause de engine07:35
Dannilionlollypop @ frankapimenta07:35
sponixmaybe if I tarball my dot dir for amarok, wanna try my config for it ?07:35
alexicongo for it sponix07:36
DannilionI just got mine working07:36
frankapimentamy your do work?07:36
frankapimentayha but your issue was the same in the engine ?07:36
alexiconxine right frankapimenta07:36
sponixlet me get the headphones and make sure mine functions before I tarball the config07:36
TBKDanBit of a hurry to get something installed... does Kubuntu have the ability to boot off of a USB drive?07:36
Dannilionxine could not load any audio-drivers, using void-engine instead07:36
frankapimentai tried xine engine but didnt work07:36
sponixin the mean time, how do I get a full package listing of what I have installed through apt ?07:37
frankapimentavoid engine?07:37
sponixsomeone riddle me that07:37
frankapimentai ll install07:37
DaSkreechfrankapimenta: What are you trying to play?07:37
alexiconhowd you dump that with apt sponix07:37
Dannilionyou don't want void-engine! It's no engine07:37
frankapimentadream theater07:37
DaSkreechsponix: dpkg --get-list07:37
frankapimentaah ok07:37
frankapimentayah yah07:37
DaSkreechfrankapimenta: What are you trying to play?07:37
frankapimentasorry my english is not perfect dannilion07:37
frankapimentai my tring to play mp3 files07:38
DaSkreechsponix: dpkg --get-selections :)07:38
Dannilionthat's fine frankapimenta07:38
frankapimentai' gona try amarok with void engine07:38
DaSkreech!mp3 > frankapimenta07:38
DaSkreechfrankapimenta: Read that :007:38
frankapimentai'll feadback soon07:38
Dannilionfrankapimenta: don't try and use the void-engine, it won't work07:39
Dannilioninstead, we're going to get your xine-engine working07:39
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sponixsomething tells me this wonderful amarok doesn't do well when you first dump a few thousand songs at it07:40
sponixits doing some gay update thing, doesn't want to play my song yet07:40
alexiconthat just crashed adept07:41
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sponixdoesnt' seem to play the song I specify, but its playing music -- if you call it that :)07:43
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alexiconlol sponix07:43
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alexiconmy previous problem was that amarok scrolled through my whole collection submitting to last.fm, but not playing any sound heh07:45
senseiWhy doesn't people use xmms anymore ?07:45
alexiconi just dont like xmms07:45
alexiconi prefer mpd07:45
alexiconand that said07:45
senseiWhy not? Just out of curiosity07:45
alexicongmpc doesnt work in kubuntu either07:46
Dannilionxmms is ugly07:46
alexiconjust lack of features07:46
Dannilionand I can't read the writing on it07:46
sponixalexicon:  am I the one picking the songs on this thing, or are you ?07:46
alexiconand if im going for lack of features, id rather have a sound daemon07:46
alexicon@_@ sponix07:46
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sponixalexicon:  its nutty, let me try again now that its finally done loading07:46
senseiWhat features are you missing ?07:46
alexiconand i dont like the interface on xmms07:46
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:46
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senseiDannilion: Point taken07:47
alexiconlike all the amarok features sensei :P07:47
fiyawerxhas anyone here succesfully used automatix or easybuntu?07:47
alexiconits just much more organised07:47
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felix_Ejep. amarok kicks ass. seriously.07:47
fiyawerxDannilion: did you like it?07:47
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alexiconall the playlist stuff amarok has, and its general prettiness07:47
sponixthing just told me I'm rediscovering my musing with Amarok fast forward -- I just want it to play the right freaking songs :P07:48
alexiconif im willing to spend the mem on a music app i want it to sing and dance and look real pretty for me :P07:48
alexiconhrmm 1.3.9 wont even load my collection now @_@07:48
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alexiconthis is really unpredictable07:48
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senseialexicon: Yeah, all the 8 mbs xmms takes ;)07:49
alexiconi can use mpd/mpc/ncmpc fine, which uses next to no mem and is a lovely sound daemon07:49
senseiBut I'm not arguing FOR xmms, just wondering why people rarely use it anymore07:49
alexiconi might just work on getting mpdscribble working07:49
alexiconthats easier07:49
alexiconi stopped using xmms when i found mpd07:49
felix_Ealexicon: 1.3.9 didnt load my collection after downgrading from 1.4 either. had to delete the collection.db file07:49
alexiconeverything in mpd is pipeable07:49
alexiconincluding the sound output07:50
alexiconits a great package07:50
alexiconand doesnt need me in X to play music07:50
alexiconamarok i just started using for novelty value07:50
alexiconok felix_E07:50
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alexiconok so 1.3.9 says it plays the track for 1 second, then says its finished07:52
alexiconand goes through the whole playlist like that07:52
sponixanyone working the amarok chan ?07:53
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alexiconheh shall we? amarok works fine in other distros tho. including ubuntu07:54
alexiconi think this is a kubuntu issue07:54
sponixalexicon:  might be, I started with ubuntu this time, and install kubuntu/xubuntu after07:54
sponixalexicon:  so, I still have it playing the same track, exactly what do I need to get a specific song ;)07:55
felix_Ealexicon: sounds like your missing the codecs.07:55
alexiconnah felix_E mpd plays mp3ds just fine07:55
DannilionI installed Dapper flight 8 64 bit, then downgraded to i386 on the 31st May (while keeping my /home partition)07:55
felix_Ealexicon: using the same engine?07:55
alexiconamarok might not be able to find the codecs or something. but 1.3.9 isnt complaining about anything. no errors07:56
Danniliondidn't have this problem till I completely reformetted and installed the i286 version again07:56
alexiconhrm not sure what engine mpd uses07:56
felix_Ehmkay. which engine? for xine you might want to install "libxine-extracodecs" from universe.07:56
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alexiconk felix_E will try07:57
DannilionI've got the libxine-extracodecs :P07:57
alexiconhrm i dont see that07:57
alexiconim sure ive got universe07:57
alexiconive got stuff like mplayer etc.07:57
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alexiconis that in adept, or just apt-get libxine-extracodecs07:58
martyndahi, i set up vsftpd and can log in just fine from a linux machine, however when using filezilla, i get a "Could not retrieve directory listing" error, any help?07:58
senseimultiverse \o/07:58
alexiconyeah ive got them all :P07:58
senseimartynda: Passive vs. active mode?07:58
martyndahmm good question, this is for someone else, need to email and ask them07:59
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senseiThat's usually the culprit07:59
martyndawould that be a setting on the ftp client?08:00
martyndacool, thanks08:00
sponixcouple people up in the amarok chan now08:01
alexiconPackage libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.08:01
sponixalexicon:  I have it, maybe you need a new sources.list08:01
alexiconi added all the repositories and update quite frequently @_@08:02
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sponixalexicon:  minus that one track, I have no sound now --- HAPPY ;)08:08
alexiconhey now, i didnt start this ;)08:09
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alexiconwe've got a bunch of people rockin this boat lol08:09
alexiconthe arts engine wont even install for me :P08:09
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senseiWhat is your problems really?08:10
alexiconsensei: are you meaning that in a condesending way, or is it just bad english?08:11
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felix_Ealexicon: whats the problem with installing the arts-engine?08:12
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senseialexicon: Ok, what are your problems?08:12
alexiconits saying its installed in adept, but i dont see it on the list in amarok08:12
alexiconi still only have xine engine in amarok08:12
sensei(Not in the condescending way)08:12
DrBairwhenever I mount a cdrom, the mount point becomes owned by UID 400, GID 401. Any ideas?08:12
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alexiconi tried adding libarts-xine too but that hasnt helped08:13
felix_Ena, you need amarok-arts08:13
alexiconyeah i got that08:13
alexiconwell adept says i have that08:13
senseiShoud I have asked what the issue was perhaps ?08:13
DaSkreechalexicon: can You play oggs?08:14
felix_Esudo apt-get install --reinstall amarok-arts08:14
alexicondont have any oggs. but i can play mp3s in different applications. just not amarok08:14
felix_Estrange, anyway.08:14
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DaSkreechalexicon: There is one in the Examples Folder08:14
DaSkreechAlt+Enter -> type Examples08:14
DaSkreechalexicon: do you have libxine-extracodecs?08:15
monomaniacpatwhere does the joystick settings file save to?08:15
alexiconno DaSkreech dont have libxine-extracodecs08:15
alexiconapt says it isnt there08:15
DaSkreechalexicon: Might want to install that :)08:15
alexiconbut ive got all the repositories08:15
DaSkreechalexicon: Sure?08:15
alexiconPackage libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.08:16
monomaniacpatguys? do you know?08:16
DaSkreechalexicon: do you have libxine1c2?08:16
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alexiconalso not available08:16
DaSkreechalexicon: Then you don't have multiverse08:17
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alexiconits uncommented in adept though08:17
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alexiconwhats the actually sources file again?08:17
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DaSkreechalexicon: Can You pastebin your sources.list?08:18
alexiconyeah they are uncommented08:18
sponixits /etc/apt/sources.list08:18
sponixI can post mine to pastebin if you like ?08:18
alexiconwheres the pastebin?08:19
alexiconnever used it before08:19
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:19
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monomaniacpatwhere does the joystick settings file save to?08:19
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alexiconok put it in as alexicon sources08:20
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alexicononly ones not in my sources is security universe...08:20
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sponixthats my current sources.list it has opera web-browser in there also08:21
monomaniacpatwhere does the joystick settings file save to?08:22
sponixyou can just cp yours to sources.list.crap and then cp that one in08:22
sponixsound work pretty decent08:22
alexiconwhoa thats a lot08:22
sponixit has comments from Breezy, wifes box here was Breezy to start with08:22
sponixupgrade went well btw :)08:22
alexiconlucky you :P08:22
sponixnever mind, I took the Breezy out it seems08:23
alexiconwhered all the other amarok people go to...08:23
omeowlovely xorg.conf configuration for dual monitors... love it love it08:23
alexiconthis is too big a bug, i think im just going to work with mpdscribble. thats all i want08:23
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DaSkreechalexicon: How goes that pastebin? :)08:24
felix_Eprobably file a bug regarding that tomorrow or so...08:24
felix_Ecya guys08:24
senseiWhen changing my default browser in kcontrol, is there a varible for the url ?08:24
senseiopera -remote "openURL("%u","new-page")"08:25
alexiconDaSkreech: its called alexicon sources08:25
senseiAs in %u ?08:25
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alexiconbye felix_E08:25
DaSkreechalexicon: Give us the URL :)08:25
sponixanyone tried nuking arts completely ?08:25
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sponixI might give that a shot, and just listen to the dep bitches for a bit08:25
monomaniacpatHas anyone here used the joystick configurator in KDE?08:25
alexiconheh sponix08:25
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alexiconi kinda wan to try this outside of kde08:26
sponixafter trying to switch to alsa, etc ... I get a bunch of crashes now for amarok08:26
alexiconmight give it a go in fluxbox, easier to separate arts there08:26
sponixalexicon:  I'm gonna suck the cvs and build it from source, with && without arts support08:26
alexiconok sponix08:26
sponixI have xubuntu/xfce, never thought to try it there08:26
monomaniacpatdo you guys even see my msgs? Just wondering, like..08:26
sponixas a diff user etc .. might be worth a shot08:26
senseialexicon: You can just disable arts in kcontrol if not08:26
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sponixmonomaniacpat:  we get them, just ignoring you ;)08:27
alexiconyeah sensei i have tried that08:27
senseiThat's got the same effect as running fluxbox anyways08:27
monomaniacpatis there anywhere else that might tell me more about that app?08:27
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DaSkreechalexicon: ok I see :)08:29
DaSkreech You have multiverse in backports08:29
alexiconah gotcha08:29
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DaSkreechdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe08:29
DaSkreechPut multiverse at the end of that line and the one beneath it08:30
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omeowDaSkreech: You seem to be here quite a bit.08:31
sponixthe amarok page has a fancy place for the 1.4.1, I'm gonna try the upgrade before I gripe anymore08:31
DaSkreechomeow: Shh You'll blow my cover as a bum08:31
omeowI was hoping you might have some insight into this issue I keep running into; http://omeow.ath.cx/displaymodule-broken.png08:32
DaSkreechsponix: Whats the issue08:33
omeowI'm using KDE
sponixDaSkreech:  music player without sound :)08:33
alexiconsponix: i tried that version hehe08:33
sponixalexicon:  darn ... was worth a shot08:34
DaSkreechsponix: Can it play ogg?08:34
alexiconthats the one that said it couldnt find my audio device, then changed its mind to say it couldnt find the audio decoder08:34
alexiconbut gl with it08:34
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DaSkreechomeow: That happens as soon as you open it?08:34
omeowThat's right. But let me tell you a little more about my system.08:34
ckdwhat is the diffrent between Kanotix vs Kubuntu ?08:34
DaSkreechHave you tried to reconfigure X?08:34
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h3sp4wnckd: Kanotix run's alot faster08:35
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ckdfaster ?08:36
ckdwhy ?08:36
omeowI have an nvidia 6600 GT with two 19" TFT's hooked up. If I define more than one metamode in my xorg.conf file, KDM starts up fine, 2560x1024. But when I then login to KDE, I get 1600x600 or if I defined single monitor metamodes too, it'll only use one display.08:36
h3sp4wnckd: Haven't managed to find that out yet08:36
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h3sp4wnckd: If you are bothered about every icon looking perfect than kanotix is probably not for you] 08:36
alexiconwont play ogg either, says device is busy that time08:37
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omeowNow.. I can switch to a different resolution with xrand -r #, but the problem with that is that it doesn't seem as if xinerama places the windows properly, it seems as if KDE still thinks I use a single monitor and therefor it'll span windows over the entire desktop.08:37
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monomaniacpatwhere does the joystick settings file save to?08:37
alexiconanyway im just going to conceed here and say amarok does not work with kubuntu08:37
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alexiconim happy using mpd08:37
h3sp4wnckd: You talking about a live cd or an install ?08:37
omeowPerhaps I should try posting this stuff on the forums or something. I have too much info and there's too much going on in IRC.08:37
ckdon hd08:37
h3sp4wnckd: An install of kanotix is basically debian sid (pretty decently configured though)08:38
h3sp4wnckd: I run it on my laptop (which kubuntu is unusably slow on)08:38
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ckdthats really bad08:38
omeowDaSkreech: xorg reconfiguration however, doesn't detect my second monitor, but works fine for a single monitor setup. but as you might have guessed, I want to use both my monitors on the same desktop.08:39
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ckdI self use kanotix, past a half year, and I look for a easy distri for my Girlfriends notebook PIII , 512 DDR 40GB08:39
DaSkreechmonomaniacpat: Have you tried Google :) I'd wager somewhere uner /etc08:39
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DaSkreechomeow: The Ubuntu FOrums would be a good jump off point08:40
omeowI've tried searching the forums already, but I'll try some more.08:40
DaSkreechomeow: I mean post something :)08:40
jihihi, everytime i boot my laptop, it runs fsck on my FAT32 partition, how can i disable that ?08:40
h3sp4wnckd: I only have 256Mb of ram on my laptop08:41
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ckdthis sucks08:41
alexicondoes kubuntu have an official bug site? or does it share with ubuntu?08:41
ckdHost/Kernel/OS  "RELOAD-LOKI" running Linux i686 [ KANOTIX 2006 Easter  ] 08:41
ckdCPU Info        Intel Pentium 4 clocked at [ 2806.944 MHz ] 08:41
ckdVideocard       nVidia NV31M [GeForce FX Go5600]   X.Org 7.0.0  [ 1024x768 @60hz ] 08:41
ckdProcesses 127 | Uptime 5:16 | Memory 992.402/1008.14MB | HDD Size 60GB (88%used) | GLX Renderer GeForce FX Go5600/AGP/SSE2 | GLX Version 2.0.2 NVIDIA 87.62 | Client Konversation 0.19 | Infobash v2.50rc1208:41
omeowDaSkreech: Something else to note by the way, that k-guidance thing works for me with a single monitor, and when I then use kguidance to set up both monitors, all I get is a gross xorg.conf file that makes my screens too large, so I have to scroll on the borders.08:41
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h3sp4wnckd: How do you get infobash working with konversation ?08:42
DaSkreechomeow: Argh I hate that :)08:42
jpatrickalexicon: https://launchpad.net/malone08:42
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ckdwith /exec infobash -v08:42
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alexiconthanks jpatrick08:43
sponixalexicon:  get anything yet, I'm trying builds without arts, and without xine-engine .. and so on, see if I can come up with something08:44
sponixa workaround is better than nothing08:44
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aeon17xthanks sponix08:44
alexiconsorry sponix ive got to get some work done today, im looking at submitting [or to see if someone has submitted]  an offical bug for this08:45
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sponixanyone know what package the X includes/headers are in ?08:46
crimsunsponix: xproto-foo08:46
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sponixwtf ?08:47
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senseiDamn, I'd guessed xserver-xorg-dev08:47
monomaniacpatcan anyone  tell me where the joystick application saves the configuration to?08:50
alexiconsorry monomaniacpat never used a joystick on pc before08:50
alexiconsucks getting no response, but i guess no one else has used a joystick either08:50
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h3sp4wnalexicon: I use a super smartjoy with a super nintendo controller and it just works (never used the joystick application)08:51
alexicontalk to monomaniacpat08:51
monomaniacpath3sp4wn: I want to know where the configurator saves its settings. I need to read it...08:52
DaSkreechmonomaniacpat: Whats the name of the configuratior>08:53
h3sp4wnWhat is the configurator ? from system settings ?08:53
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monomaniacpath3sp4wn: yes the one in sys settings08:53
sponixcrimsun:  amarok still complains that it can't find them, they don't go t a non-standard place, do they ?08:54
crimsunsponix: erm, you need ``apt-get build-dep amarok''08:54
sponixsensei:  I mean .. I just did xserver-org-dev and amarok still doesn't find them :)08:54
sponixcrimsun:  aww, wicked ;)08:55
sponix133Meg more ;)08:55
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senseisponix: I was just guessing, I'm not that well familiar with the packages yet08:56
alexiconit works!08:56
alexicon1.3.9 does08:56
DaSkreechmonomaniacpat: Perhaps you could ask in #kde08:56
alexiconwith the xine extra codecs08:56
DaSkreechtell them you used kcontrol :)08:56
DaSkreechalexicon: Told ya :)08:57
sponixwho knows, its a mess though08:57
DaSkreechI'd think that sponix has the same issue  :)08:57
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alexiconnow dare i upgrade back to 1.4.108:57
sponixI was getting a _bit_ of sound outta it before, it was the wrong song -- but it did place "one time"08:57
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alexiconor shall i not tempt fate now08:58
monomaniacpatDaSkreech: I did ask in #kde and they were having an argument and ignored me :x08:58
DaSkreechalexicon: Enjoy it for two days :)08:58
alexiconlol yeah08:58
alexicongood idea08:58
sponixI just did the 1.4.1 update from the amarok.kde.org site, and have a fatter error now :P08:58
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DaSkreechmonomaniacpat: Haha :) Then ask here till they stop throwing flaming spears08:58
bipolarisn't there a system tray applet for controling pcmcia cards? I'd like to find a better way to eject them without running cardctl eject every time. :)08:58
alexiconyeah sponix 1.4.1 had errors, where 1.3.9 just mysteriously didnt play when it swore it was :P08:58
h3sp4wnI built the ones on sid this morning and it seems to work fine (on edgy)08:59
alexiconDaSkreech: do you have 1.4.1 working out of curiosity08:59
sponixwait, now its working !08:59
DaSkreechalexicon: I have 1.4.008:59
alexiconwhich version sponix08:59
sponixall I had to do was threaten to build it from sources !08:59
DaSkreechI'm waiting till 1.4.1a ;-)08:59
alexiconlol sponix09:00
alexiconhehe DaSkreech09:00
alexiconyeah im just happy to submit for now09:00
sponix1.4.1 from amarok.kde.org directions, did a bunch of other installs though, as deps09:00
alexiconi can live with that :)09:00
alexiconthanks a lot for the support and sweat you guys ;)09:00
DaSkreechSend us cake!09:00
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sponixapt-get install libtunepimp2c2a libtunepimp2-dev09:01
sponixapt-get install libmad0 libxine-extracodecs09:01
sponixalexicon:  try those real fast, see if that support helps09:01
sponixand I used this repos for my sources.list deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141 dapper main09:02
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sponixapt-get install amarok amarok-engines09:02
sponixthat is a mix of added support from 2 diff websites, but it seems the combo made it work09:03
DaSkreechsponix: Want to know the secret?09:03
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sponixof course, I'm in the middle of adding 133Meg of dev files, because I was gonna make an attempt to build without arts/xine etc ;)09:03
sponixDaSkreech:  making a threat to build the biatch from source ?09:03
LynoureDoes kubuntu come wirh some graphical mailreader installed as default?09:03
LynoureIf, which one?09:03
sponixLynoure:  kmail09:03
h3sp4wnkmail ?09:03
DaSkreechsponix: All you needed to add was libxine-extracodecs ;-)09:04
LynoureI'm wondering whether I removed it or never had it....09:04
sponixDaSkreech:  nope, did that earlier09:04
sponixDaSkreech:  that might _help_ but wasn't the key to whatever made mine work :)09:04
gatekeepersponix: find it in Kontact09:04
Lynourestarts from command line but does not show in the menu09:05
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sponixI did like that apt-get buildep packageName command though, thats pretty slick09:05
sponixalexicon:  get yours working yet ?09:06
DaSkreechsponix: Yeah it roxors the socks :)09:06
sponixgotta run... Thanks for all the help09:06
DaSkreechsponix: [13:56]  <alexicon> it works!09:06
LynoureIs that normal for it not to be in the menu? (probably not)09:06
DaSkreechsponix: We are getting a cake :)09:06
gatekeeperLynoure: try K -> Office -> Kontact then select kmail09:06
bipolaris there no gui for ejecting pcmcia cards?09:06
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Cavallois there any chance that I connect form windows machin to kubuntu machin in desktop remote control ?09:08
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nivansonhi, i have ubuntu dapper drake installed. I want to switch to kubuntu desktop but if I install the kubuntu-desktop package i will still have the dependencies of ubuntu-desktop installed. I would like to clean my apt packages so i have ONLY kubuntu-desktop and it's dependencies installed. Is this possible?09:08
jpatricknivanson: yes09:09
DaSkreechnivanson: remove everything but ubuntu-base :)09:09
nivansonI'll try it :) Thx09:09
h3sp4wnnivanson: Only easily if you have been using aptitude all the time (no adept or synaptic) then you just remove ubuntu-desktop and it takes everything with it09:09
nivansonUh one more thing09:09
bipolarCavallo: yes. you can do it using VNC09:10
jpatricknivanson: remove libgtk1.2-common09:10
jpatrickh3sp4wn: that won't do it09:10
nivansonyeah i use it normally since it has flags :) thanks aot guys09:10
bipolarCavallo: You do it though the kde control panel.09:10
h3sp4wnjpatrick: It does for me - if I install ubuntu-desktop now and then remove it with aptitude it takes all its deps with it09:11
bipolarCavallo: or, "System Settings" in kubuntu09:11
alexiconand no sponix got a segfault with that 1.4.1 update :P09:11
bipolarCavallo: System Settings > Internet & Network: Sharing > Desktop Sharing09:12
sponixalexicon:  I did first run, but it said to wait a minute it would update some crap.. And I did -- And it worked after that :)09:12
alexiconok no seg fault09:12
sponixalexicon:  so, what ver do you have going ?09:12
alexiconbut my old audio error09:12
Cavallobipolar: but when I want to connect fron win. computer to kubntu I must use the same setting as if i want to connect win. to win. computer ?09:12
alexiconi got 1.3.9 working09:12
bipolarCavallo: You need to use a VNC client09:12
sponixalexicon:  I'm more sexy, with my 1.4.1 !09:12
alexiconyeah back to the xine issue09:12
alexiconi prefer the look of 1.3.9, 1.4.1 forces its own ugly icons09:13
alexiconah well09:13
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alexiconi'll be waitin for 1.4.1a09:13
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Cavallobipolar:  ok. Thanks! ;)09:13
bipolarCavallo: no prob09:13
bipolarNow can anyone help me find a cardctl gui?09:13
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monomaniacpatAny here that can tell me about where the settings from the Joystick app in sys settings saves?09:13
sponixalexicon:  wouldn't 1.4.1a be before 1.4.1 ... the _alpha_ or do they do versioning diff ?09:14
alexiconoh dunno actually09:14
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alexiconnow to get 1.3.9 back09:15
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monomaniacpatwhat was the amarok update updating today?09:15
crimsunsponix: 1.4.1a > 1.4.109:15
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alexiconhm? what about what09:15
alexiconi just couldnt get 1.4.1 working monomaniacpat thats all09:16
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sponixcrimsun:  that seems odd, normally alpa, beta, then final ... like 2.4.6a 2.4.6b then 2.4.6 ...09:16
sponixcrimsun:  but some people version differently ;)09:16
monomaniacpatyeah, but what was in it that constituted an 'update'?09:16
Lynouregatekeeper: thank you. Interesting place for it.09:17
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crimsunsponix: debian package versioning is not necessarily strongly correlated to release versioning09:17
alexiconback to having problems09:17
alexiconi shouldnt have tried to update...09:17
sponixcrimsun:  I see09:17
monomaniacpatis there a way to view the most recent changes to your computer? what files were modified, when?09:17
gatekeeperLynoure: knode new reader turns up there to if you install it :-)09:17
gatekeepernews reader even ooops09:18
alexiconits all broken again09:18
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DaSkreechhahaha :)09:19
DaSkreechWhat's wrong?09:19
alexiconxine cant find audio device09:19
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alexiconnow its working again09:21
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DaSkreechalexicon: erm..09:21
alexiconomg this is driving me crazy09:21
alexiconi reinstalled it twice, now its working with oss09:21
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alexiconok. right09:22
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Lynouregatekeeper: I wonder how easility newbies find the mail client from kontact... or is it outlookish (yuck) enough for most people?09:22
alexiconits working. im good, youre good, yay09:22
alexiconhi Lynoure09:22
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koshLynoure: considering the second entry is mail I would guess it is pretty easy09:22
Lynouregatekeeper: nowadays I try to avoid usenet unless I really need it/miss it. :)09:22
Lynourekosh: I had to ask... and even after using kontact... in short, didn't expect a PIM have a mail client.09:23
koshLynoure: the people I know that have used outlook seem to use it with no problems09:24
koshLynoure: however I don't use it, I just use the programs directly like kmail etc09:24
Lynourekosh: ok, that's what I was curious about09:24
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Lynourekosh: I usually use mutt but just remembered an account that I want to look at graphically :) Before it disappears a month from now, or so09:25
koshI switched to kmail a good while ago, I like the live searches and other features09:26
koshand I have about 4GB of email right now09:26
gatekeeperLynoure: I don't mind contact. News groups can be usefull unfortunately some of the linux seem to suffer with problems you could do without09:26
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gatekeeperLynoure: ooops Kontact - can't type tonight :-)09:27
SpAwNwhats the best way to install a package using cli?09:27
gnomefreakSpAwN: sudo apt-get install <packagename>09:27
gnomefreakSpAwN: or aptitude but becareful with aptitude09:27
SpAwNwell...i shoulda specified i have dled the *.deb09:28
gnomefreakSpAwN: sudo dpkg -i file.deb09:28
SpAwNgnomefreak: thanks =D09:28
koshgatekeeper: the strange thing is the people that experience problems that many of the developers can just never reproduce09:28
koshgatekeeper: I have helped people before that got an error for a package conflict with another package09:28
gatekeepergnomefreak: SpAwN: I have heard bad things abot aptitude09:28
koshgatekeeper: even with the exact version numbers of the package that conflicted none of us could find any issues09:28
h3sp4wnI think aptitude is perfect09:28
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Chryseuskosh: my brother is master in producing problems that I never encounter :D09:29
h3sp4wn(well compared to anything else)09:29
gnomefreakgatekeeper: aptitude is fine if you read and know the packages09:29
koshI just use apt-get09:29
koshbeen working great for a very long time09:29
koshChryseus: the sound stuff I realy don't get the problems that people have09:29
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koshChryseus: I have not had a sound issue with linux in about 6 years09:30
monomaniacpatis there a way to view the most recent changes to your computer? what files were modified, when?09:30
koshChryseus: I got an sblive long ago and the problems completely stopped, heck my windows sound problems completely stopped also09:30
koshmonomaniacpat: you can use kfind and see for files modified within a certain timeframe09:30
Chryseuskosh: I have had soundblaster for ages and no problems09:30
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Chryseuskosh: get some wierd cheap on-board sound chip and all you get is trouble09:31
koshmy current card is an audigy2 zs and the problems I had with that had nothing to do with getting sound out of09:31
koshit has to do with getting the mixers set right for the surround sound and that was an issue under windows also although harder under windows09:31
Chryseuskosh: You'll get troubl in windows in too if you lose the driver cd ;P09:31
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Lynouregatekeeper: I had my fair share of newsgroups in the nineties :)09:31
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koshin windows my biggest problem was quicktime for some reason the older versions of quicktime used to like to reset the sound card mixer levels it would also reset my card to stereo09:32
koshthey finally stopped doing that but god was that annoying, creative ever added a setting to their driver panel to stop other applications from screwing with the sound card09:32
Chryseusnever like quicktime for some reason09:33
Chryseusit just seemed so... 3rd party :D09:33
koshI don't worship at the holy apple altar and not everything they do is good09:34
koshsome of their stuff is absolute pos09:34
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koshhowever lots of problems go away with windows, linux, bsd etc by getting good hardware09:34
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kosha good case, power supply and cooling make a lot of issues go away09:34
koshI have helped people fix all their "windows" crashing problems that where09:35
kosh"obviously" windows fault by just replacing the psu and the case09:35
DaSkreechI normally just replace the windows with stained GlassTux09:35
unix_infidelkosh: LOL, i have an old case from 1995, a 500W PSU and no cooling and a sempron 3100+09:35
koshI like to be more realistic about the quality of these things and nail microsoft for what it really does wrong09:35
Chryseuskosh: heh.. I had one of those once09:35
unix_infideli have temps around 35C09:35
koshnot nailing them for stability problems that are the problem of very cheap hardware09:36
koshunix_infidel: a lot of the older stuff is actually of higher quality09:36
Chryseuskosh: my motherboard had some nice feature that freezed os if processor was going too hot.. well in windows that happened quite a lot but after I installed linux it stopped... never thought that linux just used less processing power09:36
koshunix_infidel: the modern cramped plastic cases just suck for cooling09:36
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unix_infidelkosh: actually, if you buy a mostly aluminum case, it works pretty well.09:37
koshChryseus: did it happen with the 9x series or the nt series?09:37
koshunix_infidel: yup that is my point the metal cases cool VASTLY better since they lost a lot of heat through the sides etc09:37
unix_infidelbut i could care less, i'm fine with not having to invest in any fans.09:37
koshChryseus: hmm that is strange09:37
Chryseusbut it happened with linux too if I did something that was very hard on processor09:38
Chryseusafter which I found out about the feature on motherboard and tested with huge and loud fan and it never happened again09:38
Chryseusthese days I have new motherboard and water cooling so no problems ;D09:39
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koshplastic cases can pretty much only lose heat through the fans and any vents09:40
koshmetal cases can lose heat along the entire surface area09:40
koshthat is why metal cases are a LOT better and help computer stability, things just don't heat up as much09:40
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SpAwNdoes anyone in here use cedega on kubuntu?.....09:46
h3sp4wnSpAwN: #cedega09:46
SpAwNi asked in there.......was wanting to know if it ran good for other kubuntu users09:47
h3sp4wnI tried the 14 day trial version once and the only game I tried didn't work09:47
SpAwNhmm....my games worked when i was on mandriva...but now they dont seem to work.........09:48
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h3sp4wnDo they list kubuntu as a supported distribution ?09:48
SpAwNim wondering if there is something different i need to change to get them working09:48
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SpAwNh3sp4wn: im not even sure09:48
h3sp4wnIt seemed like a horrible hack to me so I didn't try any further09:49
lz1gjdhey, could any1 tell me if there's any other difference between ubuntu and kubuntu besides the kdesktop ?09:49
SpAwNwell i know cedega works good...ive expericnced it 1st hand09:49
koshlz1gjd: ubuntu defaults to gnome, kubuntu defaults to kde that is the entire difference09:50
h3sp4wnSpAwN: Do you need to install a full copy of windows to get it to work ? Or should it work without ?09:50
koshlz1gjd: they both use the same repository, they are completely compatible, it is just a question of defaults09:50
lz1gjdic, thx09:50
SpAwNh3sp4wn:  what u  mean?09:50
lz1gjdso i could install gnome packages on kubuntu and vice versa ?09:50
DaSkreechlz1gjd: Yup09:50
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DaSkreechHi Snake09:51
Snakehey DaSkreech09:51
h3sp4wnSpAwN: Do you need to have all the dll's from a real windows installation or not ?09:51
lz1gjdone more question, is there a way to instlal yast graphical configuration tools on kubuntu ?09:51
Snakelz1gjd: yast is a suse specialty09:51
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lz1gjdso, no ?09:51
SpAwNh3sp4wn: no clue man....i use cedega so i dont have to know that kinda stuff ;D09:52
SpAwNi know i have newest cedega stuff though09:52
Snakelz1gjd: Youll find the control panel is okay, but I agree, yast is godly ;)09:52
h3sp4wnSpAwN: It never worked for me09:52
lz1gjddamn, im new to kubuntu, being a suse user for quite a time, but for some reason some apps seem to start more slowly than they do on suse, is it just me ?09:52
zorglu1SpAwN: is it possible to run cygwin sdk, gcc and stuff, from within cedega ?09:52
h3sp4wnlz1gjd: Its not you suse does do things to speed up kde09:53
Snakelz1gjd: no your right, the kubuntu KDE is rather slow09:53
SpAwNcygwin sdk....09:53
SpAwNnot sure what that is09:53
Snakeh3sp4wn: its not just suse dude, kubuntu's kde is slower09:53
SpAwN....and why would i want to use gcc in cedega09:53
zorglu1SpAwN: to port a deamon on window. and i dont want to install window09:53
h3sp4wnSnake: I know kanotix is miles faster09:53
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h3sp4wnSnake: But I think suse does some stuff specifically which speeds up kde09:54
SpAwNzorglu1: ok....not realy sure man.............i just wanna play cs:s09:54
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zorglu1SpAwN: ok :)09:54
Snakeh3sp4wn: They used to, I believe theyve stopped, but not sure09:54
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lz1gjdi've seen some parts of the boots process and it says laying out firefox, and other stuff, this probably is some kind of caching09:55
Snakemost likely09:55
Snakelz1gjd: ive herd rumors of suse using unoffical speed hacks, pre-caching and symlinking, but I Cant for certain if its true or not09:55
lz1gjdso, recompiling the kde for my march wont do any difference in means of speed and responsiveness09:57
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koshprelinking can work but there are still a few minor bugs that are caused by doing it09:57
koshsuse probably works around them09:57
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koshjust run sudo prelink -afmR10:00
koshand then use sudo vim /etc/environment and put a line in that says KDE_IS_PRELINKED=110:00
koshthen just logout and login again10:00
lz1gjdi'll give it a try, thx10:00
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lz1gjdis this util in official repositories ? can't find it10:01
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koshtry just doing sudo apt-get install prelink10:02
koshlooks like it is in universe10:03
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SpAwNzorglu1: ....just read back over your question.....im not sure if u can do that....u may want to look into vmware or zen10:10
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zorglu1SpAwN: yep im looking at cedega web site and it really focused on gaming10:10
SpAwNzorglu1: yes10:10
zorglu1SpAwN: i think i will try qemu :)10:10
zorglu1ok maybe zen... but im not sure i can run window10:11
zorglu1i have to check the status on that10:11
SpAwNzorglu1: well from what ive read... zen is better but harder to use....and u need to make sure u can run zen10:11
zorglu1last time i looked zen was ok with window only on some very recent cpu10:11
SpAwNzorglu1: vmware is easy to use10:11
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zorglu1SpAwN: is it free ?10:11
zorglu1i have to pay something no ?10:12
SpAwNi dont think it is...but i think u can use a trial....10:12
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zorglu1hehe the 'reinstall every 30days' trick :)10:13
SpAwNyea probly somthing along them lines....but from what ive read10:13
SpAwNu can make ready to go vm's like install vmware....install windows....get it all set upp.....then save it like that10:13
h3sp4wnzorglu1: You can create the virtual machines in vmware workstation (with the trial) and then run vmware player (which is free) to use them10:14
SpAwNso next time allu have to do is load the pre made vm10:14
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zorglu1hmm ok thanks10:14
h3sp4wnzorglu1: But qemu is almost as fast with kqemu10:14
zorglu1i keep reading their website to go thru the buzzword stuff. quite painfull10:15
zorglu1h3sp4wn: you talk from experience ?10:15
zorglu1i mean is this reliable information10:15
zorglu1i would likely spend time doing qemu that vmware :)10:15
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SpAwNzorglu1: my friend used to make pre built vm's.......so i know that much is possible10:15
h3sp4wnzorglu1: I don't use windows anymore at all but kqemu apparantly works with it and for emulating linux it is very fast10:16
zorglu1i dunno why but i never trusted vmware10:16
zorglu1without explicit reason... strange hey10:16
h3sp4wnI remember reading that windows needs to be installed without kqemu but once it is installed it works fine10:16
zorglu1thanks for you help10:17
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo10:17
zorglu1i will try this one :)10:17
R3MIHi Guys, Kubuntu (Dapper6.06) was downloading SunJava trough Adept and it stopped responding at 28%. closed Adept and rebooted the computer. Now when i try to open Adept it Say Database Locked and that i wont be able to do any changes... what can i do !10:17
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h3sp4wnYou probably want qemu 0.81 - there is alot of speed improvements with it over 0.8010:17
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gatekeeperR3MI: killall adept10:20
Firebird8how do you add a display to the systeam gaurd thing for ur taskbar?10:20
zorglu1h3sp4wn: ok noted10:21
koshthe problem is a stale lockfile most likely because of how the stuff was killed10:21
zorglu1that would be fun to telnet to an emulated winxp on a remote box running linux10:21
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zorglu1that would show good on opensource btw :)10:22
gatekeeperR3MI: sunjava was probable waiting for you to answer a question when it go to 28%10:22
R3MIdidnt had anything at the screen to answer, thats why i closed it10:22
koshit was probably not a great idea to reboot10:23
gatekeeperR3MI: probable in a terminal10:23
koshR3MI: can you please run sudo apt-get install whateverthenameofthejavathingis10:23
koshI want to see what the error it returns is10:23
R3MIunfortunatly still have a windows mentality ! not a linux pro yet hehe10:23
koshthat is not a good way to fix problems on windows either10:25
gatekeeperkosh: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre :-)10:25
koshcould you run that command in a konsole window?10:25
R3MIin windows rebooting fix everything hahaha10:25
koshit doesn't10:25
koshit just hides the problems and makes things worse10:25
zorglu1R3MI: in case the other stuff fail, you may try dpkg --configure -a10:25
zorglu1i had similar problems and this is how fixed it10:26
koshzorglu1: it might or might not work, I just want his system to identify the lockfile10:26
R3MIE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem., doin it now10:27
zorglu1R3MI: listen to kosh :)10:27
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gatekeeperbet it was asking you if you would agree to the licence10:28
R3MIwhat java should i install? i have a AMD Turion 6410:28
ForkzI've got a problem with my ATI driver... When i type glxgears in terminal, i should see my FPS but i only see the cogs... Anyone knows whats wrong?10:28
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zorglu1gatekeeper: yep adept should be modified to popup the terminal in this case10:28
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R3MIgatekeeper: you are probably right10:28
h3sp4wnForkz: run 'strings glxgears'10:28
koshForkz: open a konsole window and type glxgears and hit enter10:29
koshit should show the fps in that konsole window10:29
zorglu1zorglu1: R3MI: listen to kosh :) <- just reread and i realize it may appear ironic. well it is not10:29
h3sp4wnForkz: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark10:29
Forkzh3sp4wn: Command not found10:29
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Forkzkosh: That's what i've been doing all day :/10:30
koshR3MI: I think that is the only java that you can use however java is not my strong point10:30
h3sp4wnForkz: It should have been 'strings /usr/bin/glxgears'10:30
h3sp4wnForkz: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark (that is the way to get it print fps though)10:30
Forkzh3sp4wn: strings: command not found10:30
koshwow they changed it10:31
koshI wonder why they did10:31
Ademan_anyone here have multiboot with windows and ubuntu?:10:31
R3MIzorglu1: just accepted the liscence agrreement for JAVA, its doin its stuff right now10:31
gatekeeperzorglu1: have a similar problem with synaptic you have to clock what is happening and expand the terminal so you can actually see what is happening :-)10:31
Forkzh3sp4wn: It works :) Thx10:31
h3sp4wnkosh: People using it as a benchmark (which the author thinks is stupid)10:31
koshhe is right10:31
h3sp4wnI know10:31
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gatekeeperR3MI: will ask a couple of more questions I think10:32
koshcards can score very high and very low on it and not have squat to do with how the card would really work10:32
R3MIgatekeeper: its done now10:32
gatekeepergood stuff :-)10:32
gatekeeperone to remember :-)10:32
R3MIgatekeeper: weard thing is i went on a site that have Java games on it to test and Firefox ask me to get the pluggin...10:33
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BKajHow do I get T-bird or any other apps, to use swiftfox when open urls10:34
gatekeeperR3MI: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin10:34
gatekeeperBKaj: hang on...10:35
BKajto open instead of konq, it seems to be the defauly browser10:35
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R3MIgatekeeper:  Package sun-java5-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package10:35
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gatekeeperR3MI: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories10:36
gatekeeperBKaj: it's in system settings somewhere I think see if I can find it10:37
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BKajI've been searching there too but I'm stumped10:37
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gatekeeperBKaj: system settings -> KDE components10:38
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bluesceadaanyone can tell me which one works better?10:40
bluesceadaeither apmd+klaptopdaemon or powersaved+kpowersave10:40
BKajyes gatekeeper..I found it finally , thx ...I hope this works :)10:40
gatekeeperBKaj: it will :-)10:41
bluesceadapowersaved+kpowersave will run with frequency scaling .... but will it also handle the other jobs as well as apmd+klaptopdaemon?10:42
bluesceadait's not official, that's why i ask10:42
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bluesceadai don't know if it's considered experimental, then i don't want to try10:42
BKajnope , it still opens konq from T-bird10:43
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amarokkerdoes anyone know why kmail wont work with gmail10:44
bluesceadaamarokker: it does work10:44
bluesceadawhat'S your problem?10:44
bluesceadahmm and .. i will now just try the powersaved10:44
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bluesceadawish me luck10:44
amarokkerbluesceada: someth bout authentication/smtp...wait.10:45
bluesceadaamarokker: hm10:45
bluesceadause "ssl" and authentication "clear text"10:46
bluesceadaor let kmail try what it supports10:46
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amarokkerbluesceada: i used 'plain'10:47
sysRPNi am about to install kubuntu on a laptop, but needs some help ficing a problem first ...10:47
amarokkerthere isnt any clear text- i suppose its the same thing, yes?10:47
bluesceadasysRPN: hah i just did the same :-) was very good experience10:48
bluesceadasysRPN: i will help you if i can ;-)10:48
sysRPNhas anyone had this problem before? http://www.codebot.org/articles/?doc=947810:48
sysRPNit's hardware related10:48
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sysRPNi don't want to run kubuntu on a crippled machine10:48
bluesceadaoh :-/10:48
bluesceadawarranty left?10:48
bluesceadamaybe some dead controller for that line or something like that , i dont exactly know how tfts work10:49
sysRPNhas anyone ever seen a problem like that before?10:49
bluesceadaget a new tft from ebay10:49
sysRPNi ws thinking it might be a cable10:49
bluesceadabut my laptops does also something stupid10:49
bluesceadawith the tft10:49
gatekeepersysRPN: have you got the kubuntu liveCD?10:49
bluesceadathe picture seems to be moved 2 pixels to the right10:50
sysRPNlive dvd actually10:50
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sysRPNi had to simulate the screenshot10:50
bluesceadaso 2 pixel lines on the right are not there10:50
unix_infidelsimulate a screenshot?10:50
sysRPNbecause pressing print sceen does not capture it obviously10:50
gatekeepersysRPN: run it up it will leave your HDD intact see what you get10:50
bluesceadaunix_infidel: he postprocessed the screenshot and added the yellow line to look like it looks on the tft10:50
sysRPNrun it up where?10:51
bluesceadasysRPN: so it is really hardware related10:51
sysRPNoh, i get the problem in the bios screen as well10:51
gatekeepersysRPN: boot it up :-)10:51
sysRPNso its not a windows problem10:51
unix_infidelsysRPN: that means its hardware related.10:51
unix_infideltalk to the manuf.10:51
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sysRPNyeah, like i said it's a hardware problem10:51
unix_infidelmost LCD's come with a warranty.10:51
sysRPNit's attached to the laptop10:52
gatekeepersysRPN: if you get it on the BIOS then yes hardware problem10:52
unix_infidelunless you buy them from my boy julio in compton.10:52
sysRPNi am boy julio10:52
sysRPNso there is no warranty10:52
R3MIgatekeeper: i got JAVA workin, downloaded the plugin trough Adept, thanks for your help guys10:53
unix_infidellaptops usually come with warranty too.10:53
unix_infidelunless you buy them from jesus in south dallas.10:53
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sysRPNokay thanks all, i was just wondering if any of you have seen anything like that on a laptop screen before10:53
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gatekeeperR3MI: good to hear it :-)10:53
unix_infidelsysRPN: yea, its not uncommon.10:54
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unix_infidelsysRPN: might check the cable, make sure its not loose.10:54
sysRPNyeah, but opening a laptop is an ordeal, so i thoguht i'd ask around first10:54
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sysRPNthe people are digg might be mad with me10:55
sysRPNbecause i used it as a hardware support forum :) lol10:56
h3sp4wnYou can usually order one direct from taiwan alot cheaper if you need to replace it than get the manufacturer to do it (if its not in warranty)10:56
sysRPNi'm hoping it's the cable/connection10:56
h3sp4wnThe manufacturer wanted 400 for one for my brothers laptop I got one for 175 from taiwan10:57
h3sp4wnexact same type10:57
sysRPN1st digg response "Digg is not a forum."10:57
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sysRPNdon't get mad, i'm going to ask in the ubuntu channel11:00
bobbinjoin linux-guru11:00
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bluesceadahm anyone knows how to check if frequency scaling works??11:01
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BKajgatekeeper, konq still loads the websites from t-bird ,altho I have the default browser set as swiftfox11:02
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BKajin systemsettings kde/components11:03
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grothesk_Hi there!11:05
grothesk_How ist Ubuntus policy concerning updates? May I expect an update of OOo to 2.0.3?11:06
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DaSkreechR3MI: dpkg --configure -a11:07
DaSkreechR3MI: Never mind :)11:07
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SystematicDubHey all.  Okay while trying to partition my drive (sadly I only have one) I resized the c: drive (hda2) which is 69.89 GBs down to about 38 GBs, but instead of being okay it comes up with this.  Filesystems check failed!  Totally 358016 cluster accounting mismatches.  This can not be good!  Anybody heard or seen this before?11:09
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SystematicDubOh, and this of course is a NTFS file type.11:11
gatekeeperBKaj: is there some sort of setting in T-Bird, what I showed you works for me but I am using Kapplications11:11
gatekeeperBKaj: have a look at this: http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8961911:13
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jerryI have a question11:16
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Kubu-newbiewhen  installed Kubuntu, the installation did not ask me for a root password ..is there a default root password?11:17
fekKubu-newbie: it asked you11:18
mcscruffKubu-newbie: there isnt a root11:18
grothesk_Kubu-newbie, there is no root11:18
AB3Ihi all. I've got a really dumb question. I'm trying to save some data from a windows harddrive using a dapper live CD. How does ubuntu fill in spaces in folder names? I'm trying to copy the folder Documents and Settings, but damn if I can get it to recognize it11:18
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.11:18
jc-dentonheh gnomefreak on kubuntu11:18
mcscruffAB3I: i think its "\ "11:18
AB3Iwith a space in it?11:19
gnomefreaki am also kdefreak but shhhhhh ;)11:19
mcscruffi believe so11:19
AB3Ibah, or not11:19
jerryI have a question11:19
AB3Ino \ in it11:19
AB3Ijust " "11:19
jerryCan I run Diablo2 on unbuntu?11:19
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Kubu-newbieok ...so what kind of authorization do I need to run commands like updatedb?11:20
hcjc92how do i change the defualt browser from konquer to firefox>>11:20
bluesceadajerry: try it out with "wine"11:20
bluesceadashould probabyl work11:20
bluesceadaKubu-newbie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo11:21
DaSkreechWhat do I need to register a ODB with Odbc?11:21
Kubu-newbiebluesceada: thanks11:21
bluesceadait's just copy paste from above .. np ;-)11:22
visik7anyone got issues using dynamic playlist on amarok 1.4.x11:22
h3sp4wnKubu-newbie: sudo updatedb --localuser=nobody11:22
h3sp4wnKubu-newbie: Don't worry about the permission denied stuff they are things that only root should see and hence should not be in the locatedb11:23
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Mopiihi all11:24
jerryhow about for linux?11:24
gatekeeperhcjc92: system settings -> KDE components11:24
Mopiihow can i put an " " in console mode ?? (sorry for my bad english :)11:24
ubotuI know nothing about odbc11:25
Kubu-newbiethanks guys11:26
Mopiicd media/hda1/Program Files/     i have a problem for " "    (Program Files)11:26
nico8481any way to export your kmail mailbox to a file ?11:26
gatekeepernico8481: are you trying to backup?11:27
Mopiifor run an "exe" with wine :)11:27
nico8481gatekeeper: migrating to another client11:27
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gatekeepernico8481: don't think there is, at least I have never found one :-(, I wanted to do what you wanted to do but when upgrading etc11:29
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nico8481hmm :(11:29
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nico8481what about the contacts ?11:30
gatekeepernico8481: I used tar to backup the folder, that was the nearest I got to export/import11:30
nico8481gatekeeper: yup but here i'm migrating to macosx :P11:30
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gatekeepernico8481: contacts has got import/export under the File menu11:31
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R3MIAnother Question for you guys: any clue why a H264 file play but the image is really scrambled. Sound is ok. DIVX and Mpeg4 plays all good. Using VLC.11:34
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gatekeeperR3MI: probable a codec issue, found this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/hdot264/11:41
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TheHighChildR3MI: I got through the same thing on tux and windows. VLC just rocks.11:43
R3MITheHighChild: im using VLC11:44
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TheHighChildR3MI: Are you having trouble with VLC? I thought you meant only VLC plays the file11:45
R3MITheHighChild: it plays the file yes, audio is ok but the image is scrambled. when it is a still image it is ok. but as soon people are moving and stuff (like regular video stuff) it is scrambled11:46
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TheHighChildR3MI: Are you trying to play a wmv file?11:47
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gatekeeperwhat's up omeow?11:48
BKajgatekeeper , sorry but my text editor kate isn't responding to my input :)  ,/home/logon/.mozilla-thunderbird/xxx.default/prefs.js...as you showed me in the url11:49
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BKajnothing happens when I input the text11:49
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omeowgatekeeper: I'm terribly annoyed by xorg and kde. I have two monitors, which appear to be configured correctly since they seem to be the correct size and resolution when I start KDM, however when I log into KDE, something changes my resolution to 1280x1024,NULL. And I can't use the display configuration tool (kcmshell displayconfig) because it won't make me commit the changes.11:50
omeowHere are is my log file and configuration file;11:50
TheHighChildomeow: Are you editing that as root?11:51
omeowOf course.11:51
gatekeeperBKaj: don't know what else to suggest11:51
gatekeeperBKaj: sorry :-(11:51
R3MITheHighChild: h264, .mov11:51
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TheHighChildR3MI: oh ok. I've had the trouble with Windows media player 9 files. Might I suggest checking out mplayer and it's codec packages. Between mplayer and vlc, I can play pretty much anything.11:53
h3sp4wnxine with w32codecs for me can play anything I have tried to (but probably not everything)11:53
chavoomeow,do you use any of the metamodes beisdes 1280x1024, 1280x1024?11:54
R3MITheHighChild: ill give it a try11:54
TheHighChildh3sp4wn: What can't you play?11:54
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h3sp4wnNothing that I have found11:55
gatekeeperBKaj: found this: http://gnuru.org/?node_id=94111:55
omeowchavo: Well yeah, I would like to pretend I am able to play games on Linux, and if I define only one metamode it'll start up in the right mode. However, when I start a game, it will appear in the middle of both screens.11:55
h3sp4wn(but I haven't tried things just for the sake of it)11:55
omeowchavo: I just made a new user, and his resolution settings are not changed as KDE logs in. =/11:55
gatekeeperBKaj: no idea if it will work11:55
TheHighChildh3sp4wn: The only thing I really had trouble with was media player 9 videos but I've since compiled DVD's Jon's hack for VLC11:55
omeowKDE hates me. =/11:55
chavoomeow, I had the same thing happen, it's the kde display settings thing11:56
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:56
chavoomeow, I just took allt\ the metamodes out but my main one though and it works fine for me11:56
h3sp4wnomeow: You need just need a correct modeline11:56
omeowchavo: Yeah, but like I said, if you start a game, it'll appear in the middle of both.11:57
chavoomeow, also you can run xrandr -s 2560x2048, that'll change your screen size11:57
chavoomeow, games run fine here11:57
h3sp4wnomeow: Using a crt or lcd ?11:57
chavoI only  really play et and HL2 though11:57
omeowI know. However, it seems that when I do that I have to push KDE around to make it remember to not span the whole desktop when I maximize windows.11:58
omeowh3sp4wn: two 930BFs connected to a 6600GT via analog connectors.11:58
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omeow(19" screens)11:58
chavothat's really odd11:58
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h3sp4wnomeow: You need 60hz >11:58
h3sp4wnomeow: You need 60hz11:58
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omeowUh, I think I use 75 on Windows.11:58
h3sp4wnI meant do you need to run it at 60hz ? (My monitor can run at 75 but it works best at 60 (according to the manual))11:59
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omeowchavo: I think my ~/.kde/ got mangled up or something. The test user can enjoy full screen stuff.11:59
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omeowh3sp4wn: Hm, let me reference my manual.11:59
eXCeSSis there a way to have konqueror remeber my view settings, for specific folders, i want my /home in tree view and my music folder in column view is this possible?12:02
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chavoomeow, do you have a ~/.kde/share/config/kcmranandrrc?12:02
omeowLet me check.12:02
chavo<- bad typer12:03
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omeowno, doesn't seem like I do.12:04
chavoomeow, alright12:04
eXCeSSis there a way to have konqueror remeber my view settings, for specific folders, i want my /home in tree view and my music folder in column view is this possible? ;(12:04
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serenityhow to register a channel on freenode?12:04
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alien_chemistevening all12:06
eXCeSSis there a way to have konqueror remeber my view settings, for specific folders, i want my /home in tree view and my music folder in column view is this possible?12:07

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