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| jsgotangco | good morning | 01:36 |
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| LaserJock | hi jsgotangco | 02:16 |
| jsgotangco | hey LaserJock having a good holiday? | 02:16 |
| LaserJock | decent | 02:17 |
| LaserJock | I'm at work for a few hours while my wife is at the hospital doing so volunteer work | 02:18 |
| LaserJock | then we're going to go see some fireworks | 02:18 |
| jsgotangco | that's nice | 02:23 |
| jsgotangco | july 4 used to be indpendence day here as well but we changed that heh | 02:23 |
| LaserJock | really? | 02:24 |
| LaserJock | btw, nice blog about Andreas | 02:24 |
| jsgotangco | yep, America "declared" us independed after the war | 02:24 |
| jsgotangco | thanks | 02:24 |
| LaserJock | oh yeah | 02:24 |
| jsgotangco | after manila was ruined heh | 02:25 |
| LaserJock | what is the offical relationship between the US and you guys? is there any? | 02:25 |
| jsgotangco | i dunno US treats PH like a friend if it needs something... | 02:26 |
| LaserJock | I remember reading about the Philippines in my history books in school | 02:26 |
| jsgotangco | heh it was pretty nasty the first time america came in | 02:27 |
| jsgotangco | had a bloody war | 02:27 |
| jsgotangco | because we just declared independence from spain | 02:27 |
| jsgotangco | but the treaty of paris had the us purchase the islands from spain | 02:27 |
| LaserJock | heh | 02:28 |
| jsgotangco | but from what my grandfather told me it was pretty upbeat before world war II | 02:28 |
| === jsgotangco thinks we finally got our independence a decade ago when the government decided not to allow US bases inside the country anymore | ||
| LaserJock | yeah, makes sense | 02:29 |
| jsgotangco | it really pissed off a lot of bar operators in the area though heh | 02:30 |
| LaserJock | I bet | 02:30 |
| jsgotangco | have you heard of the term neo-colonialism? | 02:31 |
| LaserJock | not really, but I can guess | 02:32 |
| jsgotangco | its usually associated with america being a superpower and all, and influencing too much of its former colonies/territories by bombarding it with american commerce influencing the overall economy of the country | 02:34 |
| jsgotangco | and trancends to the culture of the people itself | 02:34 |
| LaserJock | interesting | 02:36 |
| LaserJock | I'd see that as a side-effect of globalization, sort of America spilling out of it's borders :-) | 02:38 |
| jsgotangco | if you think about it, globalization is partly neo-colonialism | 02:40 |
| jsgotangco | it just happened that my country sufferend 600+ years of colonialization from outsiders =) | 02:40 |
| LaserJock | yeah, that makes sense | 02:40 |
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| LaserJock | jsgotangco: and overall do you think it has been a negative thing for you country? | 02:41 |
| LaserJock | we only had ~ 150 years of colonialization | 02:42 |
| jsgotangco | LaserJock: PH is an Asian country and yet it doesn't feel like Asia when you are here | 02:42 |
| jsgotangco | LaserJock: here's an interesting read | 02:43 |
| jsgotangco | http://www.bibingka.com/phg/misc/july4not.htm | 02:43 |
| LaserJock | so say if it was colonized by another Asian country it would have been better? | 02:43 |
| jsgotangco | i wouldn't really know...our cultural identity has been muddled up ever since the spanish came | 02:45 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 02:45 |
| jsgotangco | i myself am not a pure native considering i originate from chinese immigrants | 02:45 |
| LaserJock | I really don't know how much a cultural identity the US really has either | 02:47 |
| LaserJock | our families come from all over and bring their culture along with them, it gets mixed and mangled with the rest | 02:48 |
| jsgotangco | heh yeah | 02:50 |
| jsgotangco | if the spanish didnt come at all, we're most likely to be an islamic state considering they arrived with lots of resistance | 02:51 |
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| LaserJock | hmm, farther north than I remember | 02:53 |
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| jsgotangco | heh | 02:54 |
| LaserJock | It's amazing how complicated the relationship between countries can get over the years | 02:56 |
| LaserJock | and the US has only been around for a relatively short amount of time :-) | 02:58 |
| jsgotangco | i am not surprised if most americans have no clue about its past relationships with other countries, after all they already live in a big place and i know people who haven't even left their home states | 02:58 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 02:58 |
| LaserJock | there are quite a few people who don't know anything but the 50 states | 02:59 |
| Plug_ | I had to answer a pub quiz question once. | 02:59 |
| LaserJock | we hear about Puerto Rico every once in a while | 02:59 |
| Plug_ | What letter does not appear in the name of any of the 50 US states? | 02:59 |
| Plug_ | We got it eventually. I wonder how long it would take someone from the US. | 03:00 |
| LaserJock | umm ... | 03:00 |
| Plug_ | (Here == Noo Zulland) | 03:00 |
| LaserJock | is x not in any? | 03:00 |
| Plug_ | Texas | 03:01 |
| LaserJock | doh, hope there aren't any Texans around ;-) | 03:01 |
| Plug_ | Come on, that was an easy one :) | 03:01 |
| LaserJock | z then | 03:01 |
| Plug_ | Arizona | 03:01 |
| LaserJock | ah right, these states are close to me I should know better | 03:02 |
| Plug_ | Which state are you in, LaserJock? | 03:02 |
| LaserJock | Nevada | 03:02 |
| Plug_ | Heh. I live on a Nevada Rd. | 03:02 |
| LaserJock | lol | 03:02 |
| LaserJock | what state? | 03:02 |
| LaserJock | or country? or whatever | 03:03 |
| Plug_ | New Zealand | 03:03 |
| LaserJock | doh, Noo Zulland ;-) | 03:04 |
| Plug_ | :) | 03:04 |
| Plug_ | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=l&hl=en&q=&near=new+zealand&ie=UTF8&ll=-37.789743,175.32742&spn=0.022417,0.054245&om=1 | 03:05 |
| Plug_ | Place to be. | 03:05 |
| LaserJock | heh, everybody in the US wants to live in New Zealand | 03:06 |
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| jsgotangco | NZ the country? | 03:08 |
| jsgotangco | or the southern part of AU | 03:08 |
| jsgotangco | hehe | 03:08 |
| jsgotangco | kidding | 03:08 |
| Plug_ | ... | 03:08 |
| Plug_ | ;) | 03:08 |
| LaserJock | NZ | 03:08 |
| Plug_ | I was going to reply with "can it mean anything else?" | 03:08 |
| jsgotangco | yeah considering LCA2006 happened in Dunedin so it must be part of AU lol | 03:09 |
| LaserJock | Australia is also pretty popular, but NZ is probably the top of the list for people I talk to anyway | 03:09 |
| Plug_ | (It's the best part) | 03:09 |
| jsgotangco | LaserJock: bah they just want to live in middle earth | 03:09 |
| jsgotangco | ;) | 03:09 |
| Plug_ | both .au and .nz are irritatingly far away from the rest of the world | 03:09 |
| Plug_ | if you follow that Google Maps link I gave you about 20k east | 03:09 |
| Plug_ | you'll end up in Hobbiton | 03:09 |
| LaserJock | jsgotangco: true, but there is also a lot of other movies made there that get people excited :-) | 03:10 |
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| jsgotangco | how far is the drive from Hamilto to Aukland? | 03:11 |
| Plug | About 1.5 hours. | 03:12 |
| Plug | From the edge of Auckland the sign claims 100km, and the open road speed limit is 100km/hr | 03:12 |
| Plug | so I always use that as a challenge. ;) | 03:12 |
| Plug | bbiab. | 03:13 |
| LaserJock | well, I'm happy to be back in the US at any rate. At least it's home :-) | 03:14 |
| LaserJock | France would have a been a bit better if I knew more French ;-) | 03:14 |
| jsgotangco | do you have kids? | 03:36 |
| LaserJock | me? no | 03:37 |
| LaserJock | I've been in grad school and my wife just got out of grad school | 03:39 |
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| LaserJock | I'm going to feel that way by the time I'm done :-) | 03:42 |
| jsgotangco | :/ | 03:54 |
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| jsgotangco | hello mdke | 09:01 |
| mdke | hiya jerome | 09:01 |
| jsgotangco | how are you doing | 09:01 |
| mdke | very well thanks, bit sleepy :) | 09:02 |
| mdke | you? | 09:02 |
| jsgotangco | im ok just feeling some midlife crisis though | 09:02 |
| mdke | aww | 09:03 |
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| jsgotangco | :/ | 09:05 |
| === robitaille wonders when he will hit that mid-life point | ||
| bhuvan | mdke: i'm unable to build the pdf in trunk. it reports:make[1] : *** No rule to make target `pdf'. Stop. | 09:15 |
| bhuvan | mdke: yeah, pdf target is not available in ubuntu/Makefile. is this intended ? | 09:16 |
| mdke | bhuvan: I can't remember, I can add them if you need to build pdfs already, but you could just use the html | 09:17 |
| bhuvan | mdke: yeah i use html. just wish to know if it needs to be fixed | 09:18 |
| mdke | i don't think so yet | 09:19 |
| mdke | gtg to work, see you in a bit | 09:19 |
| bhuvan | ok | 09:19 |
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| Liz | finally ! | 10:31 |
| Liz | i couldnt remember the irc address to get here | 10:31 |
| jsgotangco | haha | 10:46 |
| Liz | i had to go through a pile of emails to find it | 10:48 |
| mpt | It's linked from the front page of doc.ubuntu.com ... | 10:56 |
| mpt | (maybe it should be *on* the front page) | 10:57 |
| Liz | i ended up finding it from the link on the wiki page | 10:57 |
| Liz | now that i know where to find you, ill be back | 11:51 |
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| jjesse | i made an upload to kubuntu/desktopguide to fix a bug, someone needs to copy the change to branches/dapper as i don't have branches checked out | 05:00 |
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| mdke | jjesse: that's not quite how it works, branches/dapper is frozen now | 05:06 |
| mdke | trunk is for edgy | 05:06 |
| jjesse | mdke: ok, so how will the bug get solved? | 05:06 |
| jjesse | i mean i've commited a fix, but it will need to be released | 05:06 |
| mdke | jjesse: in dapper? | 05:06 |
| jjesse | yeah | 05:07 |
| mdke | we don't usually fix bugs in dapper | 05:07 |
| mdke | how serious is it? | 05:07 |
| jjesse | not serious | 05:07 |
| jjesse | i guess when i redo the release notes, which would be a serious bug in my opionon we should release it | 05:07 |
| mdke | yes, that's different, because there are no translations of the release notes | 05:07 |
| mdke | and it's a serious bug | 05:08 |
| jjesse | ok, but because there are translations of the deskotp guide we wouldn't re-release it | 05:08 |
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| jjesse | requiring new translations correct? | 05:08 |
| mdke | jjesse: that's right. | 05:08 |
| mdke | unless it was very serious, and warranted an exception to that | 05:08 |
| mdke | in such a case, we would tell the translators, and ask them to retranslate the relevant bit | 05:09 |
| jjesse | i understand, so fix committed is the best status to keep it as, and then when edgy comes out change it to fix released | 05:09 |
| mdke | before releasing the fix | 05:09 |
| mdke | jjesse: you can mark it as fix released when it is fixed in edgy | 05:09 |
| jjesse | mdke: understanding now thanks | 05:09 |
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| nixternal | hey everyone!!! | 07:17 |
| jjesse | hello nixternal | 07:18 |
| nixternal | hiy jjesse | 07:18 |
| nixternal | im bushed...i woke up early to do a fun job in a fun place with a bunch of fun people | 07:19 |
| nixternal | bah | 07:19 |
| jjesse | well i'm glad you had fun | 07:22 |
| Burgwork | hey nixternal, jjesse | 07:22 |
| jjesse | hello Burgwork | 07:22 |
| nixternal | heya Burgwork | 07:24 |
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