=== mdke_ [n=matt@unaffiliated/matt/x-000000001] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:36] good morning === gaz00_ [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:16] hi jsgotangco [02:16] hey LaserJock having a good holiday? [02:17] decent [02:18] I'm at work for a few hours while my wife is at the hospital doing so volunteer work [02:18] then we're going to go see some fireworks [02:23] that's nice [02:23] july 4 used to be indpendence day here as well but we changed that heh [02:24] really? [02:24] btw, nice blog about Andreas [02:24] yep, America "declared" us independed after the war [02:24] thanks [02:24] oh yeah [02:25] after manila was ruined heh [02:25] what is the offical relationship between the US and you guys? is there any? [02:26] i dunno US treats PH like a friend if it needs something... [02:26] I remember reading about the Philippines in my history books in school [02:27] heh it was pretty nasty the first time america came in [02:27] had a bloody war [02:27] because we just declared independence from spain [02:27] but the treaty of paris had the us purchase the islands from spain [02:28] heh [02:28] but from what my grandfather told me it was pretty upbeat before world war II === jsgotangco thinks we finally got our independence a decade ago when the government decided not to allow US bases inside the country anymore [02:29] yeah, makes sense [02:30] it really pissed off a lot of bar operators in the area though heh [02:30] I bet [02:31] have you heard of the term neo-colonialism? [02:32] not really, but I can guess [02:34] its usually associated with america being a superpower and all, and influencing too much of its former colonies/territories by bombarding it with american commerce influencing the overall economy of the country [02:34] and trancends to the culture of the people itself [02:36] interesting [02:38] I'd see that as a side-effect of globalization, sort of America spilling out of it's borders :-) [02:40] if you think about it, globalization is partly neo-colonialism [02:40] it just happened that my country sufferend 600+ years of colonialization from outsiders =) [02:40] yeah, that makes sense === manicka_ [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:41] jsgotangco: and overall do you think it has been a negative thing for you country? [02:42] we only had ~ 150 years of colonialization [02:42] LaserJock: PH is an Asian country and yet it doesn't feel like Asia when you are here [02:43] LaserJock: here's an interesting read [02:43] http://www.bibingka.com/phg/misc/july4not.htm [02:43] so say if it was colonized by another Asian country it would have been better? [02:45] i wouldn't really know...our cultural identity has been muddled up ever since the spanish came [02:45] hmm [02:45] i myself am not a pure native considering i originate from chinese immigrants [02:47] I really don't know how much a cultural identity the US really has either [02:48] our families come from all over and bring their culture along with them, it gets mixed and mangled with the rest [02:50] heh yeah [02:51] if the spanish didnt come at all, we're most likely to be an islamic state considering they arrived with lots of resistance === LaserJock pulls up a map of Asia [02:53] hmm, farther north than I remember === gaz00_ [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:54] heh [02:56] It's amazing how complicated the relationship between countries can get over the years [02:58] and the US has only been around for a relatively short amount of time :-) [02:58] i am not surprised if most americans have no clue about its past relationships with other countries, after all they already live in a big place and i know people who haven't even left their home states [02:58] yeah [02:59] there are quite a few people who don't know anything but the 50 states [02:59] I had to answer a pub quiz question once. [02:59] we hear about Puerto Rico every once in a while [02:59] What letter does not appear in the name of any of the 50 US states? [03:00] We got it eventually. I wonder how long it would take someone from the US. [03:00] umm ... [03:00] (Here == Noo Zulland) [03:00] is x not in any? [03:01] Texas [03:01] doh, hope there aren't any Texans around ;-) [03:01] Come on, that was an easy one :) [03:01] z then [03:01] Arizona [03:02] ah right, these states are close to me I should know better [03:02] Which state are you in, LaserJock? [03:02] Nevada [03:02] Heh. I live on a Nevada Rd. [03:02] lol [03:02] what state? [03:03] or country? or whatever [03:03] New Zealand [03:04] doh, Noo Zulland ;-) [03:04] :) [03:05] http://maps.google.com/maps?f=l&hl=en&q=&near=new+zealand&ie=UTF8&ll=-37.789743,175.32742&spn=0.022417,0.054245&om=1 [03:05] Place to be. [03:06] heh, everybody in the US wants to live in New Zealand === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:08] NZ the country? [03:08] or the southern part of AU [03:08] hehe [03:08] kidding [03:08] ... [03:08] ;) [03:08] NZ [03:08] I was going to reply with "can it mean anything else?" [03:09] yeah considering LCA2006 happened in Dunedin so it must be part of AU lol [03:09] Australia is also pretty popular, but NZ is probably the top of the list for people I talk to anyway [03:09] (It's the best part) [03:09] LaserJock: bah they just want to live in middle earth [03:09] ;) [03:09] both .au and .nz are irritatingly far away from the rest of the world [03:09] if you follow that Google Maps link I gave you about 20k east [03:09] you'll end up in Hobbiton [03:10] jsgotangco: true, but there is also a lot of other movies made there that get people excited :-) === Plug_ is now known as Plug [03:11] how far is the drive from Hamilto to Aukland? [03:12] About 1.5 hours. [03:12] From the edge of Auckland the sign claims 100km, and the open road speed limit is 100km/hr [03:12] so I always use that as a challenge. ;) [03:13] bbiab. [03:14] well, I'm happy to be back in the US at any rate. At least it's home :-) [03:14] France would have a been a bit better if I knew more French ;-) [03:36] do you have kids? [03:37] me? no [03:39] I've been in grad school and my wife just got out of grad school === jsgotangco wish he could afford to go back to school and re-tool himself [03:42] I'm going to feel that way by the time I'm done :-) [03:54] :/ === gaz00_ [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === manicka_ [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === gaz00_ [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === gaz00_ [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@dialup-4.159.11.91.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyaru1so [n=anthony@dialup-4.159.11.160.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt_ [n=mpt@203-173-177-223.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lloydinho [n=andreas@130.225.237.181] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke_ mornings === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:01] hello mdke [09:01] hiya jerome [09:01] how are you doing [09:02] very well thanks, bit sleepy :) [09:02] you? [09:02] im ok just feeling some midlife crisis though [09:03] aww === mdke hugs jsgotangco [09:05] :/ === robitaille wonders when he will hit that mid-life point [09:15] mdke: i'm unable to build the pdf in trunk. it reports:make[1] : *** No rule to make target `pdf'. Stop. [09:16] mdke: yeah, pdf target is not available in ubuntu/Makefile. is this intended ? [09:17] bhuvan: I can't remember, I can add them if you need to build pdfs already, but you could just use the html [09:18] mdke: yeah i use html. just wish to know if it needs to be fixed [09:19] i don't think so yet [09:19] gtg to work, see you in a bit [09:19] ok === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@203-173-177-223.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === synchronboy [i=synchron@silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc === synchronboy is now known as matthewrevell === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Liz [n=me@203-173-178-96.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:31] finally ! [10:31] i couldnt remember the irc address to get here [10:46] haha [10:48] i had to go through a pile of emails to find it [10:56] It's linked from the front page of doc.ubuntu.com ... [10:57] (maybe it should be *on* the front page) [10:57] i ended up finding it from the link on the wiki page [11:51] now that i know where to find you, ill be back === dsas [n=dean@host86-143-88-146.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt_ [n=mpt@203-173-177-223.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@203-173-177-223.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === gaz00 [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jojopaderes [n=jojo@203.177.173.6] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jd_ [n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul_ [n=ompaul@213-202-190-50.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #ubuntu-doc === synchronboy [i=synchron@silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc === synchronboy is now known as matthewrevell === gaz00 [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:00] i made an upload to kubuntu/desktopguide to fix a bug, someone needs to copy the change to branches/dapper as i don't have branches checked out === klepas_ [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:06] jjesse: that's not quite how it works, branches/dapper is frozen now [05:06] trunk is for edgy [05:06] mdke: ok, so how will the bug get solved? [05:06] i mean i've commited a fix, but it will need to be released [05:06] jjesse: in dapper? [05:07] yeah [05:07] we don't usually fix bugs in dapper [05:07] how serious is it? [05:07] not serious [05:07] i guess when i redo the release notes, which would be a serious bug in my opionon we should release it [05:07] yes, that's different, because there are no translations of the release notes [05:08] and it's a serious bug [05:08] ok, but because there are translations of the deskotp guide we wouldn't re-release it === klepas_ [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-doc [] [05:08] requiring new translations correct? [05:08] jjesse: that's right. [05:08] unless it was very serious, and warranted an exception to that [05:09] in such a case, we would tell the translators, and ask them to retranslate the relevant bit [05:09] i understand, so fix committed is the best status to keep it as, and then when edgy comes out change it to fix released [05:09] before releasing the fix [05:09] jjesse: you can mark it as fix released when it is fixed in edgy [05:09] mdke: understanding now thanks === gaz00 [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-82-135-72-134.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-242-208.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:17] hey everyone!!! 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