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| cbx33 | @schedule london | 09:23 |
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| Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/London: 05 Jul 21:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 20:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 21:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 13:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 03:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 20:00: Marketing Team | 09:23 |
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| jsgotangco | 21:00 christ | 09:29 |
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| sivang | @schedule Israel | 09:55 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Israel: 05 Jul 23:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 15:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 05:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 22:00: Marketing Team | 09:55 |
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| jsgotangco | @schedule manila | 11:09 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Asia/Manila: 06 Jul 04:00: Edubuntu | 07 Jul 03:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 07 Jul 04:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 20:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 10:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 14 Jul 03:00: Marketing Team | 11:09 |
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| rodarvus | @schedule Sao_Paulo | 03:27 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for America/Sao_Paulo: 05 Jul 17:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 16:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 09:00: Edubuntu | 12 Jul 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 16:00: Marketing Team | 03:27 |
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| Klaidas | @schedule vilnius | 04:20 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/Vilnius: 05 Jul 23:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 15:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 05:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 22:00: Marketing Team | 04:20 |
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| GNAM | @schedule rome | 05:52 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/Rome: 05 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 21:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 14:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 04:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 21:00: Marketing Team | 05:52 |
| Czubek | @schedule warsaw | 06:17 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/Warsaw: 05 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 21:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 14:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 04:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 21:00: Marketing Team | 06:17 |
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| Sp4rKy | hye | 07:12 |
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| Sp4rKy | please where is the next CC ? | 07:13 |
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| highvoltage | @meeting johannesburg | 07:48 |
| raphink | @schedule Johannesburg | 07:49 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Africa/Johannesburg: 05 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 21:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 14:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 04:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 21:00: Marketing Team | 07:49 |
| raphink | highvoltage: ;) | 07:49 |
| highvoltage | :) | 07:50 |
| Sp4rKy | please when is the next CC ? :p | 08:05 |
| ompaul | Sp4rKy, it is not set up yet | 08:06 |
| Seveas | Sp4rKy, not known yet, or it would be in the topic | 08:06 |
| Sp4rKy | k | 08:06 |
| ogra | likely next tueday though | 08:06 |
| ogra | *tuesday | 08:06 |
| Seveas | Kamion should get some mild poking | 08:06 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Current meeting: Edubuntu | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 06 Jul 19:00 UTC: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 20:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 02:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 19:00 UTC: Marketing Team | ||
| spacey | hi | 09:55 |
| spacey | :o | 09:55 |
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| ogra | hey everybody | 10:00 |
| cbx33 | hello Mr ogra | 10:00 |
| rodarvus | hello | 10:00 |
| spacey | hi | 10:00 |
| highvoltage | howdy | 10:00 |
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| cbx33 | hi LaserJock | 10:01 |
| ogra | as usual there is not much from the tech side that will take us only short (45min as usual :P) | 10:01 |
| cbx33 | haha | 10:01 |
| cbx33 | that was funny last time | 10:01 |
| highvoltage | i'm actually glad to see that this time, i'm quite tired :) | 10:02 |
| cbx33 | awww | 10:02 |
| ogra | there were some major changes in ltsp last week | 10:02 |
| spacey | oe | 10:02 |
| ogra | i work tightly with debian to create a 'real' upstream branch | 10:02 |
| ogra | i.e. adding makefiles all over the place and make regular tarball releases from that | 10:03 |
| highvoltage | which is the real upstream branch now, debians? or ltsp.org? | 10:03 |
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| ogra | our | 10:03 |
| highvoltage | oooh. | 10:03 |
| cbx33 | we have the power | 10:03 |
| ogra | https://launchpad.net/products/ltsp/+branches | 10:03 |
| ogra | ltsp-mainline is the upstream branch now | 10:03 |
| cbx33 | that is fantastic news | 10:04 |
| ogra | ltsp-common-buildsys is the branch where we make the change to the makefile structure | 10:04 |
| cbx33 | ogra: are there changes to be made to my man pages? | 10:04 |
| ogra | if the feature works and is tested we'll merge it back in the upstreasm one | 10:04 |
| cbx33 | if so shout nd I can get them done early | 10:04 |
| rodarvus | ogra, any timeframe to have ltsp-common-buildsys stabilized and merged into mainline? | 10:05 |
| ogra | my edgy-ltsp branch will become the base for the edgy package | 10:05 |
| rodarvus | should I wait for it to be merged before working on my own? | 10:05 |
| ogra | rodarvus, i hope we manage it until UVF | 10:05 |
| rodarvus | I mean, I suppose the changes there are quite intrusive | 10:05 |
| ogra | not really | 10:05 |
| ogra | they only change the strucdture and we add Makefile.am and configure.in | 10:06 |
| ogra | the rest is autoconf automake stuff | 10:06 |
| rodarvus | good, no need to wait, then | 10:06 |
| cbx33 | rodarvus: go go go | 10:06 |
| cbx33 | :p | 10:06 |
| ogra | the filesystem structure changed a bit though | 10:06 |
| rodarvus | cbx33, its merge time still, no time for LTSP yet :) | 10:07 |
| ogra | we added all bits that need compilation to a src dir | 10:07 |
| cbx33 | rodarvus: heheh | 10:07 |
| ogra | exactly | 10:07 |
| ogra | feature development starts afetr UVF | 10:07 |
| cbx33 | I'm catching up on my work at work, so I can start to work on it at work if that makes sense | 10:08 |
| ogra | the big advantage is that we dont need to have a native package anymnore | 10:08 |
| ogra | additionally if you worked on ltsp, please have a look at the new plugin structure for ltsp-build-client | 10:08 |
| highvoltage | that sounds interesting. | 10:08 |
| cbx33 | yeh that does sound very interesting | 10:09 |
| ogra | you can add features by adding a plugin | 10:09 |
| cbx33 | do you want me to continue maintaining the man pages ogra ? | 10:09 |
| ogra | every distro will have its own plugin subdirt | 10:09 |
| rodarvus | the plugin hooks are documented somewhere? | 10:09 |
| cbx33 | or will that be handled by someone else now? | 10:09 |
| ogra | cbx33, indeed ! | 10:09 |
| cbx33 | Excellent | 10:09 |
| rodarvus | (just curious) | 10:09 |
| ogra | rodarvus, not yet | 10:09 |
| cbx33 | once new features are in I'll get right onit | 10:10 |
| rodarvus | then they are/should be documented on the TODO document ;) | 10:10 |
| ogra | rodarvus, but looking at the code will reveal the structure to you, its idiot proof simple | 10:10 |
| rodarvus | ok | 10:10 |
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| ogra | (i understood it, must be idiot proof) | 10:10 |
| cbx33 | I thought you were about to say I wrote it so cbx33 could understand it | 10:10 |
| cbx33 | wrote the spec in crayon eh? | 10:10 |
| ogra | nope, thats from vagrantc and otavio | 10:10 |
| cbx33 | heh | 10:11 |
| ogra | vagrant runs freegeek.org and otavio is .br debian developer | 10:11 |
| cbx33 | ah cool | 10:11 |
| ogra | oh, and ltsp messages are translatable ... | 10:11 |
| ogra | we have a .po file now | 10:11 |
| highvoltage | i've read some stuff from the freegeek guys, they have some bright people contributing there. lessdisks also seem to come from freegeek. | 10:12 |
| ogra | but enough ltsp ... its not the ltsp meeting :) | 10:12 |
| ogra | lessdisks was written by vrgrant | 10:12 |
| ogra | *vagrant | 10:12 |
| ogra | he is merging much of the lessdisks code into our ltsp | 10:12 |
| ogra | sooo | 10:13 |
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| ogra | SPECS ! | 10:13 |
| rodarvus | you wanna start? :) | 10:13 |
| ogra | we have a ton of specs, my last assigned one is in review | 10:13 |
| highvoltage | oooh, nice. he could certainly help on the diskless fat clients then, i'll bug him some time, but as you say, enough about ltsp :) | 10:13 |
| ogra | apparently LaserJock's was just approved | 10:13 |
| LaserJock | \o/ | 10:13 |
| ogra | highvoltage, he's in #ltsp from time to time | 10:14 |
| ogra | so are you all fine with the status of the specs on https://launchpad.net/people/ogra/+specs ? | 10:14 |
| rodarvus | I have three assigned to me, none of them approved yet. two of them are semi-approved. third one will be reviewed by fabbione when he returns | 10:14 |
| ogra | anything thats important and missing ? | 10:14 |
| rodarvus | nope | 10:14 |
| rodarvus | basically, all set | 10:15 |
| ogra | me too | 10:15 |
| ogra | anybody else ? | 10:15 |
| cbx33 | nope | 10:15 |
| cbx33 | my specs never made it to paris | 10:15 |
| ogra | LaserJock, set the LP status to approved please :) | 10:15 |
| Amaranth | what are we discussing? :) | 10:15 |
| ogra | oh, you did :) | 10:15 |
| === Amaranth is late, as usual | ||
| ogra | Amaranth, specs | 10:15 |
| ogra | https://launchpad.net/people/ogra/+specs | 10:15 |
| highvoltage | Amaranth: specs, as part of the EC meeting | 10:15 |
| rodarvus | ogra, isn't it not done by ubuntu-reviewers? | 10:15 |
| ogra | rodarvus, i think only the owner can change it, but i might be wrong | 10:16 |
| LaserJock | it is set at approved | 10:16 |
| rodarvus | actually, I thought it could only be done by one of them :) (set it as approved) | 10:16 |
| ogra | yep | 10:16 |
| ogra | it wasnt before i reloaded :) | 10:16 |
| ogra | ok, any other tech stuff ? | 10:17 |
| rodarvus | not from my side | 10:18 |
| cbx33 | seems all quiet | 10:18 |
| ogra | anybody want to speak up about docs ? | 10:18 |
| ogra | were there any changes ? was there a cookbook meeting ? | 10:18 |
| ogra | (are any cookbook ppl here ?) | 10:18 |
| cbx33 | there is a meeting tomorrow | 10:19 |
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| cbx33 | so the schedule says | 10:19 |
| ogra | there ! | 10:19 |
| cbx33 | or is that ubuntu? | 10:19 |
| cbx33 | hey HedgeMage | 10:19 |
| ogra | HedgeMage, will clearify :) | 10:19 |
| ogra | ogra> anybody want to speak up about docs ? | 10:19 |
| ogra | <ogra> were there any changes ? was there a cookbook meeting ? | 10:19 |
| ogra | <ogra> (are any cookbook ppl here ?) | 10:19 |
| HedgeMage | I'm sorry I'm late... TT is having a rough day :/ | 10:19 |
| HedgeMage | What did I miss? | 10:19 |
| rodarvus | there is a cookbook meeting tomorrow (as the topic says :) ) | 10:20 |
| ogra | tech stuff | 10:20 |
| HedgeMage | The cookbook meting is scheduled for tomorrow due to a conflict that caused us to postpone | 10:20 |
| ogra | there was none last week ? | 10:20 |
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| HedgeMage | nope | 10:20 |
| HedgeMage | pygi had a conflict, and so did 3 other people, that's half our team | 10:20 |
| ogra | ah, k | 10:20 |
| ogra | any other doc stuff ? | 10:21 |
| ogra | where is pygi ? | 10:21 |
| HedgeMage | tomorrow we'll be voting on a new name, assigning specific authors to their tasks, and working out the rough spots in our timeline | 10:21 |
| HedgeMage | He's had some non-ubuntu stuff going on and hasn't been available much. | 10:21 |
| ogra | cool | 10:21 |
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| HedgeMage | ahh... there he is now :) | 10:22 |
| ogra | pygi, anything you want to add about doc stuff ? | 10:23 |
| pygi | ogra, I wasn't here, I can't know what was mentioned, but... | 10:23 |
| pygi | I just wanna add that we must and we will make Edgy "Cookbook" even more rocking :) | 10:23 |
| ogra | :) | 10:24 |
| HedgeMage | :) | 10:24 |
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| ogra | ok, next, artwork ... | 10:24 |
| ogra | do we want to handle the additional topic now as well ? | 10:25 |
| rodarvus | +1 | 10:25 |
| HedgeMage | cbx33: might you have time to bring me up to speed since ogra is busy running the meeting? | 10:25 |
| HedgeMage | (in /msg) | 10:25 |
| cbx33 | HedgeMage: bit diffcult atm, AliasVegas and I are sharing one computer | 10:26 |
| HedgeMage | ouch ok | 10:26 |
| HedgeMage | I'll just play along and read the minutes later | 10:26 |
| cbx33 | ok cool | 10:26 |
| ogra | the ubuntu artteam requested that we should have an artteam leader ... as lead as well as as single point of contact for them | 10:26 |
| ogra | additionally this person should take the decisions about edubuntus look and feel | 10:27 |
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| === cbx33 tries but often fails | ||
| HedgeMage | cbx33: you are quite good :D | 10:27 |
| ogra | when the topic came up in paris, only one name came up all the time ... | 10:27 |
| highvoltage | sorry, my connection died there | 10:28 |
| ogra | ... that was AliasVegas :) | 10:28 |
| highvoltage | i missed the last few minutes too :/ | 10:28 |
| highvoltage | :) | 10:28 |
| AliasVegas | :) | 10:28 |
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| ogra | we all know her awesome artwork ... and had conversations proxied through cbx33... imho she's well suited for the job as we can see by what we already got from her ;) | 10:29 |
| cbx333 | right we now have two computers :D | 10:29 |
| rodarvus | ogra, I suggest you explain the details of the proposed task/responsability, and "officially" ask her if she is interested | 10:29 |
| ogra | AliasVegas, how about introducing yourself :) | 10:29 |
| AliasVegas | thanks lol | 10:29 |
| HedgeMage | ahh, so this is the famous wife and artist... I only know you from legend ;) | 10:30 |
| ogra | rodarvus, go ahead ... | 10:30 |
| AliasVegas | Im Lisa, Just turned 21.... | 10:30 |
| ogra | (i dont need to lead all of the meeting ;) ) | 10:30 |
| rodarvus | oh yeah you need :P | 10:30 |
| pygi | ogra, just most :) | 10:30 |
| AliasVegas | I'm currently involved in freelance webdesign | 10:30 |
| AliasVegas | and of course edubuntu..... :) | 10:31 |
| cbx333 | I do harp on about it quite a lot right AliasVegas ? | 10:31 |
| AliasVegas | yep | 10:31 |
| AliasVegas | I would be very interested in helping out with anything I can | 10:32 |
| rodarvus | nice | 10:32 |
| rodarvus | well, let me tell you about our proposal :) | 10:32 |
| ogra | :) | 10:32 |
| cbx333 | :p | 10:32 |
| rodarvus | we are in need of a official artwork lead for the Edgy development cycle | 10:32 |
| rodarvus | this person will have close contact with the Ubuntu artwork team | 10:33 |
| === highvoltage nods | ||
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| rodarvus | and as a lead, will have the final "nod" on what is done with regards to artwork on Edubuntu (of course, with help from the artwork team) | 10:33 |
| ogra | and from the edubuntu community :) | 10:34 |
| cbx333 | indeed :D | 10:34 |
| rodarvus | another "bonus" would be to help bring more hands into our artwork team, of course :) | 10:34 |
| rodarvus | ogra, indeed | 10:34 |
| ogra | we always decided after discussion in the meetings about artwork stuff | 10:34 |
| rodarvus | when I say "Edubuntu artwork team", I really mean Edubuntu community members interested in all artwork related aspects of Edubuntu | 10:34 |
| ogra | even though the word of an art person should have the final say i dont think we should break with that tradition | 10:34 |
| ogra | well, we actually never had a separated artwork team ... | 10:35 |
| ogra | it was most of the people attending the meeting | 10:35 |
| cbx333 | nope, but I don;t think that that's the way it would function anyway, | 10:35 |
| ogra | (indeed there was/is a team on LP) | 10:35 |
| HedgeMage | IOW, don't let clueless people like me tell you how to make things pretty when I should be coding or writing docs or something :P | 10:35 |
| === pygi can bring two people to art team, which should help Lisa ^^ | ||
| AliasVegas | :) | 10:36 |
| ogra | HedgeMage, critics are always welcome :) | 10:36 |
| rodarvus | I can bring someone to this team too | 10:36 |
| rodarvus | to help AliasVegas and all interested | 10:36 |
| rodarvus | anyhow | 10:36 |
| cbx333 | excellent | 10:36 |
| highvoltage | did AliasVegas accept? sorry, i missed a big part. | 10:36 |
| ogra | i can only bring myself (2 years of graphics design experience) but sadly not my time | 10:36 |
| cbx333 | we need to collect emails from these people, and mail out to them once the team is established | 10:36 |
| rodarvus | highvoltage, he haven't even asked her officially yet :) | 10:36 |
| cbx333 | ogra stop being so modest :p | 10:37 |
| highvoltage | cbx33, you read minds? i was about to say something similar :) | 10:37 |
| HedgeMage | highvoltage: I think we haven't given her the chance to get a word in edgewise ;) | 10:37 |
| highvoltage | rodarvus, ok | 10:37 |
| cbx333 | highvoltage: I steal your thoughts in your sleep | 10:37 |
| cbx333 | mwuuhahahah | 10:37 |
| AliasVegas | He does the same to me | 10:37 |
| rodarvus | AliasVegas, as a last comment, you'll obviously have all the necessary technical help you'll need, from us | 10:37 |
| highvoltage | cbx33, geez, that's when i have the most dangerous thoughts! | 10:37 |
| ogra | yeah, you wont have to care for packaging or how to get the art into the distro | 10:38 |
| cbx333 | I won;t tell everyone your super amazing world domination plan | 10:38 |
| AliasVegas | Oh good lol | 10:38 |
| rodarvus | so you, and the other people interested only in artwork (if this is the case), don't need to worry about technical aspects | 10:38 |
| rodarvus | from past work experience, I know this is very important :) | 10:38 |
| AliasVegas | :) | 10:39 |
| ogra | while we're at past work experience ... | 10:39 |
| rodarvus | anyone would like to add anything regarding the "job" responsabilities? :) | 10:39 |
| ogra | would be nice to have you as a member AliasVegas :) | 10:39 |
| cbx333 | ogra: are you meaning edubuntu membership? | 10:39 |
| === highvoltage nods | ||
| ogra | (official edubuntu-member that is) | 10:39 |
| ogra | cbx333, well, it a big job membership should go alongside here ... | 10:40 |
| cbx333 | true | 10:40 |
| pygi | ogra, and I waited for membership for a month even when I was accepted ^-^ | 10:40 |
| AliasVegas | What do I need to do to get membership? | 10:40 |
| === pygi promises to be quiet :) | ||
| cbx333 | give ogra a bribe :p | 10:40 |
| rodarvus | usually you'd need to introduce yourself | 10:41 |
| rodarvus | and be voted | 10:41 |
| HedgeMage | pygi: that's because you don't nag people as well as I do :P | 10:41 |
| AliasVegas | ok :P | 10:41 |
| ogra | AliasVegas, cbx333 already did it ... your art contributions should suffice i think | 10:41 |
| rodarvus | but this seems to be a case of popular acclamation | 10:41 |
| rodarvus | santo subito! | 10:41 |
| ogra | only formal stuff like a LP account and a wikipage | 10:41 |
| LaserJock | ogra: what no vote? ;( | 10:41 |
| cbx333 | AliasVegas: has a wikipage | 10:41 |
| cbx333 | and an LP account | 10:41 |
| ogra | LaserJock, next EC i guess to give her time to prepare | 10:41 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock, don't worry, i'm sure you'll get to vote :) | 10:41 |
| ogra | OH ! | 10:41 |
| ogra | then we should indeed vote | 10:42 |
| ogra | but then we should also ask the usual questions :P | 10:42 |
| rodarvus | by the way, | 10:42 |
| highvoltage | ogra, but next week, right? | 10:42 |
| rodarvus | before we move too further on this subject :) | 10:42 |
| === pygi thinks we should also do the cheerleading part :) | ||
| cbx333 | this is all moving too fast | 10:43 |
| cbx333 | my head is spinning | 10:43 |
| rodarvus | AliasVegas, do you have any questions, doubts, fears regarding what we say? Would you like us to elaborate more on the subject? | 10:43 |
| ogra | highvoltage, next week is no official EC ... we need to announce it ... | 10:43 |
| highvoltage | oh yes | 10:43 |
| AliasVegas | I think my lovely husband has explained most of the gist to me | 10:43 |
| cbx333 | I thought today was EC? | 10:43 |
| LaserJock | it is | 10:44 |
| HedgeMage | It should be. | 10:44 |
| ogra | yeah | 10:44 |
| === cbx333 grins | ||
| rodarvus | good | 10:44 |
| HedgeMage | We did my CoC retroactively when my laptop died, can't she do her LP stuff the same way? | 10:44 |
| cbx333 | LP stuff is done | 10:44 |
| cbx333 | all apart from GPG | 10:44 |
| cbx333 | to sign the CoC | 10:44 |
| HedgeMage | cool | 10:44 |
| ogra | ok, but we need the signed CoC | 10:44 |
| cbx333 | I can get that done later | 10:45 |
| ogra | AliasVegas, and you need to apply for membership in the https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-members/+members team | 10:45 |
| cbx333 | on today | 10:45 |
| ogra | ok | 10:45 |
| cbx333 | doing now | 10:45 |
| ogra | ok | 10:45 |
| cbx333 | ok joined | 10:46 |
| ogra | we can vote in advance i think :) | 10:46 |
| jsgotangco | hey | 10:46 |
| === jsgotangco just woke up | ||
| cbx333 | hi jsgotangco | 10:46 |
| HedgeMage | heya jsgotangco | 10:46 |
| cbx333 | tired yet? | 10:46 |
| highvoltage | morning jsgotangco | 10:46 |
| jsgotangco | sorry im late | 10:46 |
| === pygi thinks we should cheerlead first :P | ||
| ogra | jsgotangco, right in time for the fun :) | 10:46 |
| === cbx333 lets pygi don the skirt | ||
| ogra | pygi, go ahead :) | 10:47 |
| jsgotangco | ill scrollback first | 10:47 |
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| HedgeMage | pygi: put on this skirt and I'll chuck you across the channel :P | 10:47 |
| HedgeMage | hi mhz | 10:47 |
| AliasVegas | Do I want to know what "cheerleading" is? | 10:47 |
| cbx333 | not when pygi does it | 10:47 |
| cbx333 | it's scary :p | 10:47 |
| highvoltage | AliasVegas, you probably do | 10:47 |
| HedgeMage | AliasVegas: people supporting you being made a member | 10:47 |
| pygi | cbx33, lol, all lies :( | 10:47 |
| ogra | AliasVegas, girls in short skirts jumping and shouting waving with pompoms | 10:47 |
| HedgeMage | just watch out for falling pygis | 10:48 |
| cbx333 | I think she meant in context | 10:48 |
| mhz | hey, I was so surprised #edubuntu had no meeting going on...and then I remembered meetings are held here :( | 10:48 |
| cbx333 | :p | 10:48 |
| pygi | erghhh :P | 10:48 |
| === jsgotangco its 5am here =) | ||
| spacey | i'm off, gn | 10:48 |
| pygi | cbx33, watch out the python questions now :P | 10:48 |
| === cbx333 can't really start the cheerleading...I'm biased :p | ||
| LaserJock | whatever | 10:48 |
| cbx333 | awww shucks | 10:48 |
| HedgeMage | lol | 10:48 |
| ogra | cbx333, thats no excuse | 10:49 |
| === cbx333 stands up to the mic | ||
| ogra | \o_ lisa ! _o/ | 10:49 |
| === ogra cheerleads if nobody else does | ||
| cbx333 | I think AliasVegas did a fantastic job on the wallpaper | 10:49 |
| highvoltage | lisa lisa she's the man, if she can't do it no one can! | 10:49 |
| === highvoltage jumps | ||
| === rodarvus agrees with cbx333 | ||
| cbx333 | from what I hear it's a big hit with people | 10:50 |
| LaserJock | umm, "man" ? ;p | 10:50 |
| ogra | heh | 10:50 |
| AliasVegas | I'm no man! :( lol | 10:50 |
| cbx333 | highvoltage: I'm hoping "man" was just to rhyme | 10:50 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock, a figure of speach | 10:50 |
| highvoltage | cbx3333 yes | 10:50 |
| LaserJock | jeeze, he's not that old | 10:50 |
| HedgeMage | lol | 10:50 |
| LaserJock | anyway .... | 10:50 |
| rodarvus | LaserJock, I hope he's not 333 too :) | 10:50 |
| highvoltage | seriously though, I think lisa proved herself with various artwork she's been working on | 10:51 |
| === HedgeMage agrees | ||
| ogra | yeah | 10:51 |
| cbx333 | totally +1 | 10:51 |
| highvoltage | she has the skill and talent, and it is of very professional quality | 10:51 |
| ogra | cbx333, sh onlys the council ! | 10:51 |
| ogra | *shh even | 10:51 |
| highvoltage | the janew pic was also very impressive, i could tell it was her immediately :) | 10:51 |
| LaserJock | I have no doubt in her artistic ability, but this also requires a fair amount of community involvement | 10:51 |
| cbx333 | sorry.... I meant I agree with you guys | 10:51 |
| HedgeMage | and putting up with cbx333 is a testament to her people skills ;) | 10:51 |
| === HedgeMage ducks | ||
| cbx333 | grrr | 10:51 |
| ogra | sooo | 10:51 |
| pygi | LaserJock, we can always help her | 10:51 |
| ogra | LaserJock, jsgotangco, highvoltage ? | 10:52 |
| highvoltage | AliasVegas, are you prepared to become more involved with the edubuntu community? | 10:52 |
| AliasVegas | YES | 10:52 |
| LaserJock | anyway, I'm +1 as long as she thinks she is up to it and is commited for Edgy at least | 10:52 |
| === ogra votes +1 based on former contributions | ||
| highvoltage | AliasVegas, this would typically mean attenting at least one of these kinds of meetings a month, and helping manage whatever art team is formed | 10:52 |
| AliasVegas | yes thats cool | 10:53 |
| rodarvus | highvoltage, actually, I believe its more like at least one (short) meeting per week | 10:53 |
| === highvoltage votes +1 based on contributions, willingness to get more involved, and willingness to manage art team | ||
| === cbx333 will drag AliasVegas to the meetings...not that I think I'll have to once she gets going :p | ||
| highvoltage | rodarvus, yes, it is, i was just thinking in terms of minimals | 10:53 |
| rodarvus | highvoltage, me too :) | 10:53 |
| jsgotangco | sorry to spoil but i will have to -1 on this for now and wait for more involvement | 10:53 |
| AliasVegas | Im happy to attend any meetings needed | 10:54 |
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| highvoltage | rodarvus, hence the term 'at least' :) | 10:54 |
| ogra | only jeromes vote is missing, but we already have a majority | 10:54 |
| rodarvus | this is a position of responsability :) | 10:54 |
| AliasVegas | I'm very comitted to my work | 10:54 |
| ogra | on. no, jsgotangco voted :) | 10:54 |
| mhz | ogra: jerome must be already zZzZing | 10:54 |
| pygi | h | 10:54 |
| jsgotangco | no | 10:54 |
| mhz | hehe | 10:54 |
| LaserJock | ok, so was that the vote for art-lead or membership? | 10:54 |
| === jsgotangco just did quick scrollback | ||
| HedgeMage | membership, I though | 10:55 |
| ogra | so thats +3 vs -1 (which will change in the future, i'm sure) | 10:55 |
| HedgeMage | thought | 10:55 |
| rodarvus | membership | 10:55 |
| ogra | LaserJock, membership | 10:55 |
| ogra | i dont think we need to vote on the artteam leadership ... there is nobody else who wants to do it :) | 10:55 |
| highvoltage | i would tend to agree with jsgotangco, it's better to see some form of long-term commitment, before committing a +1 for membership, but i also think that since the edubuntu team is still small, you can afford to be more lenient. | 10:55 |
| LaserJock | heh, true | 10:55 |
| highvoltage | or what ogra said :) | 10:56 |
| rodarvus | also note that you can't "vote" for leadership | 10:56 |
| rodarvus | leadership is something you earn | 10:56 |
| ogra | yeah | 10:56 |
| cbx333 | true | 10:56 |
| jsgotangco | yes | 10:56 |
| HedgeMage | :) | 10:56 |
| jsgotangco | it should come naturally | 10:56 |
| ogra | yep | 10:56 |
| ogra | and lisa made the commitment already, so no need to do more here for the council | 10:56 |
| rodarvus | it comes naturally | 10:57 |
| rodarvus | and this is what we expect from AliasVegas :) | 10:57 |
| ogra | yeah :) | 10:57 |
| pygi | don't pressure people :P | 10:57 |
| cbx333 | she'll be great I know it :D | 10:57 |
| jsgotangco | highvoltage: i wouldn't want to say we have to be more lenient because edubuntu membership = ubuntu membership | 10:57 |
| rodarvus | and again, we are here to help, in any possible way - AliasVegas - just don't forget to ask :) | 10:57 |
| LaserJock | ok, but I'm stuck on this, does being art lead imply being a -member ? | 10:57 |
| ogra | in other news rodarvus got an official ubuntu-member i'll just announce here that i'll add him to edubuntu-members | 10:58 |
| ogra | (after the meeting) | 10:58 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco, hmmm, i haven't considered that | 10:58 |
| jsgotangco | highvoltage: people have waited months to be approved and even had a hard time gathering supporters | 10:58 |
| pygi | cbx33, shhh python :) | 10:58 |
| jsgotangco | ogra: yes please | 10:58 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, but not many people can show off with a wallpaper thats shipped on a *buntu CD | 10:59 |
| rodarvus | jsgotangco, on the other hand, ubuntu-membership == people that care, and contribute | 10:59 |
| cbx333 | I know AliasVegas cares a lot and is extremely passionate about her work | 10:59 |
| highvoltage | and who have shown long-term, sustained contribution? | 10:59 |
| ogra | yeah | 11:00 |
| jsgotangco | ogra: sure +1 point on that, but we only had 1 contribution for the wallpaper for dapper please correct me if i am wrong | 11:00 |
| mhz | iirc, sustained contrib. is one the top keys | 11:00 |
| pygi | jsgotangco, bleh, but wallpaper was great :) | 11:00 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, JaneW was in discussion with another guy ... highvoltage who was that ? | 11:00 |
| ogra | he didnt really deliver anything ... | 11:01 |
| LaserJock | pygi: but quality alone doesn't equal sustained contribution | 11:01 |
| pygi | LaserJock, indeed | 11:01 |
| cbx333 | I mean the main point is that....in artwork in general, it sis difficult to make a big impression | 11:01 |
| highvoltage | ogra: toxictoadz? | 11:01 |
| cbx333 | there isn't as much that can be done as in doc/tech is there? | 11:01 |
| ogra | yep | 11:01 |
| highvoltage | ogra: he is very talented, but equally hard to get hold of | 11:01 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, but still the vote was 3:1 | 11:01 |
| LaserJock | AliasVegas: how long (in hours) would you say you've worked on Edubuntu stuff? | 11:01 |
| ogra | AliasVegas, did i say congrats ! ? | 11:02 |
| jsgotangco | ogra: im not arguing about the vote | 11:02 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, i know | 11:02 |
| AliasVegas | 3 days give or take | 11:02 |
| mhz | cbx33: yeah, harder than doc stuff (ie) but still there's always stuff to work on related to art | 11:02 |
| ogra | i just figured i havent congratulated AliasVegas yet :) | 11:02 |
| AliasVegas | Thanks ogra | 11:02 |
| highvoltage | AliasVegas, congratulations! | 11:02 |
| rodarvus | AliasVegas, congratulations! | 11:03 |
| highvoltage | AliasVegas, and welcome to the Edubuntu team! (officially) | 11:03 |
| mhz | AliasVegas: well, then \o/ ! | 11:03 |
| ogra | yay | 11:03 |
| AliasVegas | Thanks highvoltage & rodarvus | 11:03 |
| jsgotangco | congrats AliasVegas =) | 11:03 |
| cbx333 | congrats AliasVegas :D | 11:03 |
| LaserJock | congrats AliasVegas | 11:03 |
| === HedgeMage hugs AliasVegas congrats! | ||
| === cbx333 gives her a real life hug :D | ||
| ogra | hehe | 11:03 |
| AliasVegas | lol tanks guys! | 11:03 |
| ogra | cbx333, proxy some for us please :) | 11:03 |
| AliasVegas | I really will do my utmost to make a good impression | 11:03 |
| HedgeMage | :) | 11:04 |
| highvoltage | that part you've got nailed | 11:04 |
| AliasVegas | :) | 11:04 |
| ogra | oh, we're out of time ... | 11:04 |
| ogra | any other business ? | 11:04 |
| cbx333 | well we gotta dash | 11:04 |
| cbx333 | so | 11:04 |
| cbx333 | can I just clarify | 11:04 |
| cbx333 | was the art lead decided upon? | 11:04 |
| highvoltage | i really need to sleep, but there's one more thing if i can have a minute | 11:04 |
| cbx333 | shoot highvoltage | 11:05 |
| ogra | cbx333, yes, AliasVegas decided for it :) | 11:05 |
| rodarvus | AliasVegas, also, don't forget that Edubuntu (and Ubuntu) is a community - different opinions are welcome, (sane) arguments are welcome - do not take jsgotangco -1 as personal (it wasn't), but also don't let it get you down | 11:05 |
| AliasVegas | Thanks :) | 11:05 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 11:05 |
| highvoltage | i think we need to get a community member who takes care of website content specifically | 11:05 |
| ogra | highvoltage, go ahead | 11:05 |
| cbx333 | indeed.....if I remember corectly LaserJock was skeptical about giving me a +1 | 11:05 |
| highvoltage | i have lots of ideas, but not enough time to manage or implement it | 11:05 |
| ogra | highvoltage, acesureas has fond some bugs ... | 11:05 |
| cbx333 | highvoltage: sounds like a good idea | 11:06 |
| HedgeMage | I have to cut out... phone call | 11:06 |
| === HedgeMage waves | ||
| ogra | he's never in #edubuntu but in #ltsp | 11:06 |
| cbx333 | did you have anyone in mind? | 11:06 |
| ogra | cia HedgeMage | 11:06 |
| highvoltage | so does a few other people, i would like to see someone manage a website content team in the same way that the art team would be managed. | 11:06 |
| ogra | *ciao even | 11:06 |
| HedgeMage | highvoltage: if you need help with that, I can do some interim stuff until we get someone permanent, or help train, since I do so much drupal stuff already | 11:06 |
| highvoltage | cbx333, no, i don't | 11:06 |
| ogra | highvoltage, good idea | 11:06 |
| HedgeMage | highvoltage: I don't think I can commit to it as a permanent just-me thing though | 11:06 |
| pygi | highvoltage, I can also help, along with hedge | 11:06 |
| highvoltage | it's just something i thought i'd mention, so that people can start scouting :) | 11:06 |
| HedgeMage | now I'm really going | 11:06 |
| === HedgeMage waves | ||
| cbx333 | bye HedgeMage | 11:07 |
| AliasVegas | bye :) | 11:07 |
| ogra | highvoltage, we'll see that we get that call in the next ubuntu news | 11:07 |
| cbx333 | right we gotta dash now too guys | 11:07 |
| cbx333 | see y'all later on | 11:07 |
| highvoltage | ogra, good idea, let's do that | 11:07 |
| Lure | Riddell: can you change bug 52021 to wishlist? | 11:07 |
| ogra | cbx333, AliasVegas thanks for attending ! | 11:07 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 52021 in kdeadmin "Does not support 802.1x/WPA management" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/52021 | 11:07 |
| cbx333 | np | 11:07 |
| jsgotangco | are we done? | 11:07 |
| highvoltage | i think so | 11:07 |
| AliasVegas | it was a pleasure! :) | 11:08 |
| ogra | urgh, since when does Ubugtu bug stuff in here ? | 11:08 |
| highvoltage | ogra? | 11:08 |
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| rodarvus | AliasVegas, thanks for attending, and again, welcome, and congratulations! | 11:08 |
| AliasVegas | Thanks for the kind words guys | 11:08 |
| ogra | yes, meeting adjourned | 11:08 |
| === Lure is sorry - wrong channel | ||
| mhz | highvoltage: if you have a detail of stuff you need help with, I am sure some Tecnocimiento people could help out | 11:08 |
| highvoltage | goodnight everyone | 11:08 |
| cbx333 | nn | 11:08 |
| ogra | night highvoltage | 11:08 |
| LaserJock | cya highvoltage | 11:08 |
| highvoltage | mhz, thanks, let's chat tomorrow :) | 11:08 |
| highvoltage | cya lamont | 11:08 |
| ogra | thanks all | 11:08 |
| mhz | okis | 11:08 |
| mhz | sure | 11:08 |
| mhz | nn | 11:08 |
| highvoltage | erm... LaserJock :) | 11:08 |
| LaserJock | hehe | 11:08 |
| ogra | heh | 11:08 |
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| rodarvus | ogra, meeting is over yet? | 11:08 |
| === mhz is at 17:15 | ||
| jsgotangco | its 05:15 here =) | 11:09 |
| ogra | rodarvus, yep | 11:09 |
| rodarvus | ok, lets continue on #edubuntu then | 11:09 |
| ogra | i'm at :09 only | 11:09 |
| ogra | wher do you guys take the 6 mins ? | 11:09 |
| LaserJock | ogra: I'm at 14:10 now | 11:10 |
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| Seveas | ogra, I had requests for ubugtu to do bug things in here too | 11:16 |
| ogra | Seveas, its fine, i was just surprised | 11:16 |
| Seveas | hehe | 11:16 |
| ogra | i'll remember not to put lists of bugs intop my weekly reports in the distro team meeting :P | 11:17 |
| Seveas | ogra, if people want it off, it'll be turned off | 11:18 |
| ogra | i dont care :) | 11:19 |
| ogra | i was just surprised, honestly :) | 11:19 |
| Seveas | ompaul thought it was enough to file a bug ;) | 11:19 |
| ompaul | Seveas, I just wanted to *bug* you | 11:20 |
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