[09:23] <cbx33> @schedule london
[09:23] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/London: 05 Jul 21:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 20:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 21:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 13:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 03:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 20:00: Marketing Team
[09:29] <jsgotangco> 21:00 christ
[09:55] <sivang> @schedule Israel
[09:55] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Israel: 05 Jul 23:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 15:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 05:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 22:00: Marketing Team
[11:09] <jsgotangco> @schedule manila
[11:09] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Asia/Manila: 06 Jul 04:00: Edubuntu | 07 Jul 03:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 07 Jul 04:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 20:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 10:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 14 Jul 03:00: Marketing Team
[03:27] <rodarvus> @schedule Sao_Paulo
[03:27] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/Sao_Paulo: 05 Jul 17:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 16:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 09:00: Edubuntu | 12 Jul 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 16:00: Marketing Team
[04:20] <Klaidas> @schedule vilnius
[04:20] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/Vilnius: 05 Jul 23:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 15:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 05:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 22:00: Marketing Team
[05:52] <GNAM> @schedule rome
[05:52] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/Rome: 05 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 21:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 14:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 04:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 21:00: Marketing Team
[06:17] <Czubek> @schedule warsaw
[06:17] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/Warsaw: 05 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 21:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 14:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 04:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 21:00: Marketing Team
[07:12] <Sp4rKy> hye
[07:13] <Sp4rKy> please where is the next CC ?
[07:48] <highvoltage> @meeting johannesburg
[07:49] <raphink> @schedule Johannesburg
[07:49] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Africa/Johannesburg: 05 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 21:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 14:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 04:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 21:00: Marketing Team
[07:49] <raphink> highvoltage: ;)
[07:50] <highvoltage> :)
[08:05] <Sp4rKy> please when is the next CC ? :p
[08:06] <ompaul> Sp4rKy,  it is not set up yet
[08:06] <Seveas> Sp4rKy, not known yet, or it would be in the topic
[08:06] <Sp4rKy> k
[08:06] <ogra> likely next tueday though
[08:06] <ogra> *tuesday
[08:06] <Seveas> Kamion should get some mild poking
[09:55] <spacey> hi
[09:55] <spacey> :o
[10:00] <ogra> hey everybody
[10:00] <cbx33> hello Mr ogra 
[10:00] <rodarvus> hello
[10:00] <spacey> hi
[10:00] <highvoltage> howdy
[10:01] <cbx33> hi LaserJock 
[10:01] <ogra> as usual there is not much from the tech side that will take us only short (45min as usual :P)
[10:01] <cbx33> haha
[10:01] <cbx33> that was funny last time
[10:02] <highvoltage> i'm actually glad to see that this time, i'm quite tired :)
[10:02] <cbx33> awww
[10:02] <ogra> there were some major changes in ltsp last week
[10:02] <spacey> oe
[10:02] <ogra> i work tightly with debian to create a 'real' upstream branch
[10:03] <ogra> i.e. adding makefiles all over the place and make regular tarball releases from that
[10:03] <highvoltage> which is the real upstream branch now, debians? or ltsp.org?
[10:03] <ogra> our
[10:03] <highvoltage> oooh.
[10:03] <cbx33> we have the power
[10:03] <ogra> https://launchpad.net/products/ltsp/+branches
[10:03] <ogra> ltsp-mainline is the upstream branch now
[10:04] <cbx33> that is fantastic news
[10:04] <ogra> ltsp-common-buildsys is the branch where we make the change to the makefile structure
[10:04] <cbx33> ogra: are there changes to be made to my man pages?
[10:04] <ogra> if the feature works and is tested we'll merge it back in the upstreasm one
[10:04] <cbx33> if so shout nd I can get them done early
[10:05] <rodarvus> ogra, any timeframe to have ltsp-common-buildsys stabilized and merged into mainline?
[10:05] <ogra> my edgy-ltsp branch will become the base for the edgy package
[10:05] <rodarvus> should I wait for it to be merged before working on my own?
[10:05] <ogra> rodarvus, i hope we manage it until UVF
[10:05] <rodarvus> I mean, I suppose the changes there are quite intrusive
[10:05] <ogra> not really
[10:06] <ogra> they only change the strucdture and we add Makefile.am and configure.in 
[10:06] <ogra> the rest is autoconf automake stuff
[10:06] <rodarvus> good, no need to wait, then
[10:06] <cbx33> rodarvus: go go go
[10:06] <cbx33> :p
[10:06] <ogra> the filesystem structure changed a bit though
[10:07] <rodarvus> cbx33, its merge time still, no time for LTSP yet :)
[10:07] <ogra> we added all bits that need compilation to a src dir
[10:07] <cbx33> rodarvus: heheh
[10:07] <ogra> exactly 
[10:07] <ogra> feature development starts afetr UVF
[10:08] <cbx33> I'm catching up on my work at work, so I can start to work on it at work if that makes sense
[10:08] <ogra> the big advantage is that we dont need to have a native package anymnore
[10:08] <ogra> additionally if you worked on ltsp, please have a look at the new plugin structure for ltsp-build-client
[10:08] <highvoltage> that sounds interesting.
[10:09] <cbx33> yeh that does sound very interesting
[10:09] <ogra> you can add features by adding a plugin
[10:09] <cbx33> do you want me to continue maintaining the man pages ogra ?
[10:09] <ogra> every distro will have its own plugin subdirt
[10:09] <rodarvus> the plugin hooks are documented somewhere?
[10:09] <cbx33> or will that be handled by someone else now?
[10:09] <ogra> cbx33, indeed !
[10:09] <cbx33> Excellent
[10:09] <rodarvus> (just curious)
[10:09] <ogra> rodarvus, not yet
[10:10] <cbx33> once new features are in I'll get right onit
[10:10] <rodarvus> then they are/should be documented on the TODO document ;)
[10:10] <ogra> rodarvus, but looking at the code will reveal the structure to you, its idiot proof simple
[10:10] <rodarvus> ok
[10:10] <ogra> (i understood it, must be idiot proof)
[10:10] <cbx33> I thought you were about to say I wrote it so cbx33 could understand it
[10:10] <cbx33> wrote the spec in crayon eh?
[10:10] <ogra> nope, thats from vagrantc and otavio
[10:11] <cbx33> heh
[10:11] <ogra> vagrant runs freegeek.org and otavio is .br debian developer
[10:11] <cbx33> ah cool
[10:11] <ogra> oh, and ltsp messages are translatable ...
[10:11] <ogra> we have a .po file now
[10:12] <highvoltage> i've read some stuff from the freegeek guys, they have some bright people contributing there. lessdisks also seem to come from freegeek.
[10:12] <ogra> but enough ltsp ... its not the ltsp meeting :)
[10:12] <ogra> lessdisks was written by vrgrant
[10:12] <ogra> *vagrant
[10:12] <ogra> he is merging much of the lessdisks code into our ltsp
[10:13] <ogra> sooo
[10:13] <ogra> SPECS !
[10:13] <rodarvus> you wanna start? :)
[10:13] <ogra> we have a ton of specs, my last assigned one is in review
[10:13] <highvoltage> oooh, nice. he could certainly help on the diskless fat clients then, i'll bug him some time, but as you say, enough about ltsp :)
[10:13] <ogra> apparently LaserJock's was just approved
[10:13] <LaserJock> \o/
[10:14] <ogra> highvoltage, he's in #ltsp from time to time
[10:14] <ogra> so are you all fine with the status of the specs on https://launchpad.net/people/ogra/+specs ?
[10:14] <rodarvus> I have three assigned to me, none of them approved yet. two of them are semi-approved. third one will be reviewed by fabbione when he returns
[10:14] <ogra> anything thats important and missing ? 
[10:14] <rodarvus> nope
[10:15] <rodarvus> basically, all set
[10:15] <ogra> me too 
[10:15] <ogra> anybody else ? 
[10:15] <cbx33> nope
[10:15] <cbx33> my specs never made it to paris
[10:15] <ogra> LaserJock, set the LP status to approved please :)
[10:15] <Amaranth> what are we discussing? :)
[10:15] <ogra> oh, you did :)
[10:15] <ogra> Amaranth, specs
[10:15] <ogra> https://launchpad.net/people/ogra/+specs
[10:15] <highvoltage> Amaranth: specs, as part of the EC meeting
[10:15] <rodarvus> ogra, isn't it not done by ubuntu-reviewers?
[10:16] <ogra> rodarvus, i think only the owner can change it, but i might be wrong
[10:16] <LaserJock> it is set at approved
[10:16] <rodarvus> actually, I thought it could only be done by one of them :) (set it as approved)
[10:16] <ogra> yep
[10:16] <ogra> it wasnt before i reloaded :)
[10:17] <ogra> ok, any other tech stuff ?
[10:18] <rodarvus> not from my side
[10:18] <cbx33> seems all quiet 
[10:18] <ogra> anybody want to speak up about docs ?
[10:18] <ogra> were there any changes ? was there a cookbook meeting ? 
[10:18] <ogra> (are any cookbook ppl here ?)
[10:19] <cbx33> there is a meeting tomorrow
[10:19] <cbx33> so the schedule says
[10:19] <ogra> there !
[10:19] <cbx33> or is that ubuntu?
[10:19] <cbx33> hey HedgeMage 
[10:19] <ogra> HedgeMage, will clearify :)
[10:19] <ogra> ogra> anybody want to speak up about docs ?
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[10:19] <HedgeMage> I'm sorry I'm late... TT is having a rough day :/
[10:19] <HedgeMage> What did I miss?
[10:20] <rodarvus> there is a cookbook meeting tomorrow (as the topic says :) )
[10:20] <ogra> tech stuff
[10:20] <HedgeMage> The cookbook meting is scheduled for tomorrow due to a conflict that caused us to postpone
[10:20] <ogra> there was none last week ? 
[10:20] <HedgeMage> nope
[10:20] <HedgeMage> pygi had a conflict, and so did 3 other people, that's half our team
[10:20] <ogra> ah, k
[10:21] <ogra> any other doc stuff  ? 
[10:21] <ogra> where is pygi ? 
[10:21] <HedgeMage> tomorrow we'll be voting on a new name, assigning specific authors to their tasks, and working out the rough spots in our timeline
[10:21] <HedgeMage> He's had some non-ubuntu stuff going on and hasn't been available much.
[10:21] <ogra> cool
[10:22] <HedgeMage> ahh... there he is now :)
[10:23] <ogra> pygi, anything you want to add about doc stuff ?
[10:23] <pygi> ogra, I wasn't here, I can't know what was mentioned, but...
[10:23] <pygi> I just wanna add that we must and we will make Edgy "Cookbook" even more rocking :)
[10:24] <ogra> :)
[10:24] <HedgeMage> :)
[10:24] <ogra> ok, next, artwork ...
[10:25] <ogra> do we want to handle the additional topic now as well ? 
[10:25] <rodarvus> +1
[10:25] <HedgeMage> cbx33: might you have time to bring me up to speed since ogra is busy running the meeting?
[10:25] <HedgeMage> (in /msg)
[10:26] <cbx33> HedgeMage: bit diffcult atm, AliasVegas and I are sharing one computer
[10:26] <HedgeMage> ouch ok
[10:26] <HedgeMage> I'll just play along and read the minutes later
[10:26] <cbx33> ok cool
[10:26] <ogra> the ubuntu artteam requested that we should have an artteam leader ... as lead as well as as single point of contact for them 
[10:27] <ogra> additionally this person should take the decisions about edubuntus look and feel
[10:27] <HedgeMage> cbx33: you are quite good :D
[10:27] <ogra> when the topic came up in paris, only one name came up all the time ...
[10:28] <highvoltage> sorry, my connection died there
[10:28] <ogra> ... that was AliasVegas :)
[10:28] <highvoltage> i missed the last few minutes too :/
[10:28] <highvoltage> :)
[10:28] <AliasVegas> :)
[10:29] <ogra> we all know her awesome artwork ... and had conversations proxied through cbx33... imho she's well suited for the job as we can see by what we already got from her ;)
[10:29] <cbx333> right we now have two computers :D
[10:29] <rodarvus> ogra, I suggest you explain the details of the proposed task/responsability, and "officially" ask her if she is interested
[10:29] <ogra> AliasVegas, how about introducing yourself :)
[10:29] <AliasVegas> thanks lol
[10:30] <HedgeMage> ahh, so this is the famous wife and artist... I only know you from legend ;)
[10:30] <ogra> rodarvus, go ahead ... 
[10:30] <AliasVegas> Im Lisa, Just turned 21....
[10:30] <ogra> (i dont need to lead all of the meeting ;) )
[10:30] <rodarvus> oh yeah you need :P
[10:30] <pygi> ogra, just most :)
[10:30] <AliasVegas> I'm currently involved in freelance webdesign
[10:31] <AliasVegas> and of course edubuntu..... :)
[10:31] <cbx333> I do harp on about it quite a lot right AliasVegas ?
[10:31] <AliasVegas> yep
[10:32] <AliasVegas> I would be very interested in helping out with anything I can
[10:32] <rodarvus> nice
[10:32] <rodarvus> well, let me tell you about our proposal :)
[10:32] <ogra> :)
[10:32] <cbx333> :p
[10:32] <rodarvus> we are in need of a official artwork lead for the Edgy development cycle
[10:33] <rodarvus> this person will have close contact with the Ubuntu artwork team
[10:33] <rodarvus> and as a lead, will have the final "nod" on what is done with regards to artwork on Edubuntu (of course, with help from the artwork team)
[10:34] <ogra> and from the edubuntu community :)
[10:34] <cbx333> indeed :D
[10:34] <rodarvus> another "bonus" would be to help bring more hands into our artwork team, of course :)
[10:34] <rodarvus> ogra, indeed
[10:34] <ogra> we always decided after discussion in the meetings about artwork stuff
[10:34] <rodarvus> when I say "Edubuntu artwork team", I really mean Edubuntu community members interested in all artwork related aspects of Edubuntu
[10:34] <ogra> even though the word of an art person should have the final say i dont think we should break with that tradition
[10:35] <ogra> well, we actually never had a separated artwork team ...
[10:35] <ogra> it was most of the people attending the meeting 
[10:35] <cbx333> nope, but I don;t think that that's the way it would function anyway, 
[10:35] <ogra> (indeed there was/is a team on LP)
[10:35] <HedgeMage> IOW, don't let clueless people like me tell you how to make things pretty when I should be coding or writing docs or something :P
[10:36] <AliasVegas> :)
[10:36] <ogra> HedgeMage, critics are always welcome :)
[10:36] <rodarvus> I can bring someone to this team too
[10:36] <rodarvus> to help AliasVegas and all interested
[10:36] <rodarvus> anyhow
[10:36] <cbx333> excellent
[10:36] <highvoltage> did AliasVegas accept? sorry, i missed a big part.
[10:36] <ogra> i can only bring myself (2 years of graphics design experience) but sadly not my time
[10:36] <cbx333> we need to collect emails from these people, and mail out to them once the team is established
[10:36] <rodarvus> highvoltage, he haven't even asked her officially yet :)
[10:37] <cbx333> ogra stop being so modest :p
[10:37] <highvoltage> cbx33, you read minds? i was about to say something similar :)
[10:37] <HedgeMage> highvoltage: I think we haven't given her the chance to get a word in edgewise ;)
[10:37] <highvoltage> rodarvus, ok
[10:37] <cbx333> highvoltage: I steal your thoughts in your sleep
[10:37] <cbx333> mwuuhahahah
[10:37] <AliasVegas> He does the same to me
[10:37] <rodarvus> AliasVegas, as a last comment, you'll obviously have all the necessary technical help you'll need, from us
[10:37] <highvoltage> cbx33, geez, that's when i have the most dangerous thoughts!
[10:38] <ogra> yeah, you wont have to care for packaging or how to get the art into the distro
[10:38] <cbx333> I won;t tell everyone your super amazing world domination plan
[10:38] <AliasVegas> Oh good lol
[10:38] <rodarvus> so you, and the other people interested only in artwork (if this is the case), don't need to worry about technical aspects
[10:38] <rodarvus> from past work experience, I know this is very important :)
[10:39] <AliasVegas> :)
[10:39] <ogra> while we're at past work experience ...
[10:39] <rodarvus> anyone would like to add anything regarding the "job" responsabilities? :)
[10:39] <ogra> would be nice to have you as a member AliasVegas :)
[10:39] <cbx333> ogra: are you meaning edubuntu membership?
[10:39] <ogra> (official edubuntu-member that is)
[10:40] <ogra> cbx333, well, it a big job membership should go alongside here ...
[10:40] <cbx333> true
[10:40] <pygi> ogra, and I waited for membership for a month even when I was accepted ^-^
[10:40] <AliasVegas> What do I need to do to get membership?
[10:40] <cbx333> give ogra a bribe :p
[10:41] <rodarvus> usually you'd need to introduce yourself
[10:41] <rodarvus> and be voted
[10:41] <HedgeMage> pygi: that's because you don't nag people as well as I do :P
[10:41] <AliasVegas> ok :P
[10:41] <ogra> AliasVegas, cbx333 already did it ... your art contributions should suffice i think
[10:41] <rodarvus> but this seems to be a case of popular acclamation
[10:41] <rodarvus> santo subito!
[10:41] <ogra> only formal stuff like a LP account and a wikipage
[10:41] <LaserJock> ogra: what no vote? ;(
[10:41] <cbx333> AliasVegas: has a wikipage
[10:41] <cbx333> and an LP account
[10:41] <ogra> LaserJock, next EC i guess to give her time to prepare 
[10:41] <highvoltage> LaserJock, don't worry, i'm sure you'll get to vote :)
[10:41] <ogra> OH !
[10:42] <ogra> then we should indeed vote
[10:42] <ogra> but then we should also ask the usual questions :P
[10:42] <rodarvus> by the way,
[10:42] <highvoltage> ogra, but next week, right?
[10:42] <rodarvus> before we move too further on this subject :)
[10:43] <cbx333> this is all moving too fast
[10:43] <cbx333> my head is spinning
[10:43] <rodarvus> AliasVegas, do you have any questions, doubts, fears regarding what we say? Would you like us to elaborate more on the subject?
[10:43] <ogra> highvoltage, next week is no official EC ... we need to announce it ...
[10:43] <highvoltage> oh yes
[10:43] <AliasVegas> I think my lovely husband has explained most of the gist to me
[10:43] <cbx333> I thought today was EC?
[10:44] <LaserJock> it is
[10:44] <HedgeMage> It should be.
[10:44] <ogra> yeah
[10:44] <rodarvus> good
[10:44] <HedgeMage> We did my CoC retroactively when my laptop died, can't she do her LP stuff the same way?
[10:44] <cbx333> LP stuff is done
[10:44] <cbx333> all apart from GPG
[10:44] <cbx333> to sign the CoC
[10:44] <HedgeMage> cool
[10:44] <ogra> ok, but we need the signed CoC 
[10:45] <cbx333> I can get that done later
[10:45] <ogra> AliasVegas, and you need to apply for membership in the https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-members/+members team
[10:45] <cbx333> on today
[10:45] <ogra> ok
[10:45] <cbx333> doing now
[10:45] <ogra> ok
[10:46] <cbx333> ok joined
[10:46] <ogra> we can vote in advance i think :)
[10:46] <jsgotangco> hey
[10:46] <cbx333> hi jsgotangco 
[10:46] <HedgeMage> heya jsgotangco 
[10:46] <cbx333> tired yet?
[10:46] <highvoltage> morning jsgotangco 
[10:46] <jsgotangco> sorry im late
[10:46] <ogra> jsgotangco, right in time for the fun :)
[10:47] <ogra> pygi, go ahead :)
[10:47] <jsgotangco> ill scrollback first
[10:47] <HedgeMage> pygi: put on this skirt and I'll chuck you across the channel :P
[10:47] <HedgeMage> hi mhz 
[10:47] <AliasVegas> Do I want to know what "cheerleading" is?
[10:47] <cbx333> not when pygi does it
[10:47] <cbx333> it's scary :p
[10:47] <highvoltage> AliasVegas, you probably do
[10:47] <HedgeMage> AliasVegas: people supporting you being made a member
[10:47] <pygi> cbx33, lol, all lies :(
[10:47] <ogra> AliasVegas, girls in short skirts jumping and shouting waving with pompoms
[10:48] <HedgeMage> just watch out for falling pygis
[10:48] <cbx333> I think she meant in context
[10:48] <mhz> hey, I was so surprised #edubuntu had no meeting going on...and then I remembered meetings are held here :(
[10:48] <cbx333> :p
[10:48] <pygi> erghhh :P
[10:48] <spacey> i'm off, gn
[10:48] <pygi> cbx33, watch out the python questions now :P
[10:48] <LaserJock> whatever
[10:48] <cbx333> awww shucks
[10:48] <HedgeMage> lol
[10:49] <ogra> cbx333, thats no excuse
[10:49] <ogra> \o_ lisa ! _o/
[10:49] <cbx333> I think AliasVegas did a fantastic job on the wallpaper
[10:49] <highvoltage> lisa lisa she's the man, if she can't do it no one can!
[10:50] <cbx333> from what I hear it's a big hit with people
[10:50] <LaserJock> umm, "man" ? ;p
[10:50] <ogra> heh
[10:50] <AliasVegas> I'm no man! :( lol
[10:50] <cbx333> highvoltage: I'm hoping "man" was just to rhyme
[10:50] <highvoltage> LaserJock, a figure of speach
[10:50] <highvoltage> cbx3333 yes
[10:50] <LaserJock> jeeze, he's not that old
[10:50] <HedgeMage> lol
[10:50] <LaserJock> anyway ....
[10:50] <rodarvus> LaserJock, I hope he's not 333 too :)
[10:51] <highvoltage> seriously though, I think lisa proved herself with various artwork she's been working on
[10:51] <ogra> yeah
[10:51] <cbx333> totally +1
[10:51] <highvoltage> she has the skill and talent, and it is of very professional quality
[10:51] <ogra> cbx333, sh onlys the council !
[10:51] <ogra> *shh even
[10:51] <highvoltage> the janew pic was also very impressive, i could tell it was her immediately :)
[10:51] <LaserJock> I have no doubt in her artistic ability, but this also requires a fair amount of community involvement
[10:51] <cbx333> sorry.... I meant I agree with you guys
[10:51] <HedgeMage> and putting up with cbx333 is a testament to her people skills ;)
[10:51] <cbx333> grrr
[10:51] <ogra> sooo
[10:51] <pygi> LaserJock, we can always help her
[10:52] <ogra> LaserJock, jsgotangco, highvoltage ?
[10:52] <highvoltage> AliasVegas, are you prepared to become more involved with the edubuntu community?
[10:52] <AliasVegas> YES
[10:52] <LaserJock> anyway, I'm +1 as long as she thinks she is up to it and is commited for Edgy at least
[10:52] <highvoltage> AliasVegas, this would typically mean attenting at least one of these kinds of meetings a month, and helping manage whatever art team is formed
[10:53] <AliasVegas> yes thats cool
[10:53] <rodarvus> highvoltage, actually, I believe its more like at least one (short) meeting per week
[10:53] <highvoltage> rodarvus, yes, it is, i was just thinking in terms of minimals
[10:53] <rodarvus> highvoltage, me too :)
[10:53] <jsgotangco> sorry to spoil but i will have to -1 on this for now and wait for more involvement
[10:54] <AliasVegas> Im happy to attend any meetings needed
[10:54] <highvoltage> rodarvus, hence  the term 'at least' :)
[10:54] <ogra> only jeromes vote is missing, but we already  have a majority
[10:54] <rodarvus> this is a position of responsability :)
[10:54] <AliasVegas> I'm very comitted to my work
[10:54] <ogra> on. no, jsgotangco voted :)
[10:54] <mhz> ogra: jerome must be already zZzZing
[10:54] <pygi> h
[10:54] <jsgotangco> no
[10:54] <mhz> hehe
[10:54] <LaserJock> ok, so was that the vote for art-lead or membership?
[10:55] <HedgeMage> membership, I though
[10:55] <ogra> so thats +3 vs -1 (which will change in the future, i'm sure)
[10:55] <HedgeMage> thought
[10:55] <rodarvus> membership
[10:55] <ogra> LaserJock, membership
[10:55] <ogra> i dont think we need to vote on the artteam leadership ... there is nobody else who wants to do it :)
[10:55] <highvoltage> i would tend to agree with jsgotangco, it's better to see some form of long-term commitment, before committing a +1 for membership, but i also think that since the edubuntu team is still small, you can afford to be more lenient.
[10:55] <LaserJock> heh, true
[10:56] <highvoltage> or what ogra said :)
[10:56] <rodarvus> also note that you can't "vote" for leadership
[10:56] <rodarvus> leadership is something you earn
[10:56] <ogra> yeah
[10:56] <cbx333> true
[10:56] <jsgotangco> yes
[10:56] <HedgeMage> :)
[10:56] <jsgotangco> it should come naturally
[10:56] <ogra> yep
[10:56] <ogra> and lisa made the commitment already, so no need to do more here for the council
[10:57] <rodarvus> it comes naturally
[10:57] <rodarvus> and this is what we expect from AliasVegas :)
[10:57] <ogra> yeah :)
[10:57] <pygi> don't pressure people :P
[10:57] <cbx333> she'll be great I know it :D
[10:57] <jsgotangco> highvoltage: i wouldn't want to say we have to be more lenient because edubuntu membership = ubuntu membership
[10:57] <rodarvus> and again, we are here to help, in any possible way - AliasVegas - just don't forget to ask :)
[10:57] <LaserJock> ok, but I'm stuck on this, does being art lead imply being a -member ?
[10:58] <ogra> in other news rodarvus got an official ubuntu-member i'll just announce here that i'll add him to edubuntu-members
[10:58] <ogra> (after the meeting)
[10:58] <highvoltage> jsgotangco, hmmm, i haven't considered that
[10:58] <jsgotangco> highvoltage: people have waited months to be approved and even had a hard time gathering supporters
[10:58] <pygi> cbx33, shhh python :)
[10:58] <jsgotangco> ogra: yes please
[10:59] <ogra> jsgotangco, but not many people can show off with a wallpaper thats shipped on a *buntu CD
[10:59] <rodarvus> jsgotangco, on the other hand, ubuntu-membership == people that care, and contribute
[10:59] <cbx333> I know AliasVegas cares a lot and is extremely passionate about her work
[10:59] <highvoltage> and who have shown long-term, sustained contribution?
[11:00] <ogra> yeah
[11:00] <jsgotangco> ogra: sure +1 point on that, but we only had 1 contribution for the wallpaper for dapper please correct me if i am wrong
[11:00] <mhz> iirc, sustained contrib. is one the top keys
[11:00] <pygi> jsgotangco, bleh, but wallpaper was great :)
[11:00] <ogra> jsgotangco, JaneW was in discussion with another guy  ... highvoltage who was that ? 
[11:01] <ogra> he didnt really deliver anything ...
[11:01] <LaserJock> pygi: but quality alone doesn't equal sustained contribution
[11:01] <pygi> LaserJock, indeed 
[11:01] <cbx333> I mean the main point is that....in artwork in general, it sis difficult to make a big impression
[11:01] <highvoltage> ogra: toxictoadz?
[11:01] <cbx333> there isn't as much that can be done as in doc/tech is there?
[11:01] <ogra> yep
[11:01] <highvoltage> ogra: he is very talented, but equally hard to get hold of
[11:01] <ogra> jsgotangco, but still the vote was 3:1 
[11:01] <LaserJock> AliasVegas: how long (in hours) would you say you've worked on Edubuntu stuff?
[11:02] <ogra> AliasVegas, did i say congrats ! ?
[11:02] <jsgotangco> ogra: im not arguing about the vote
[11:02] <ogra> jsgotangco, i know
[11:02] <AliasVegas> 3 days give or take
[11:02] <mhz> cbx33: yeah, harder than doc stuff (ie) but still there's always stuff to work on related to art
[11:02] <ogra> i just figured i havent congratulated AliasVegas yet :)
[11:02] <AliasVegas> Thanks ogra 
[11:02] <highvoltage> AliasVegas, congratulations!
[11:03] <rodarvus> AliasVegas, congratulations!
[11:03] <highvoltage> AliasVegas, and welcome to the Edubuntu team! (officially)
[11:03] <mhz> AliasVegas: well, then \o/ !
[11:03] <ogra> yay
[11:03] <AliasVegas> Thanks highvoltage & rodarvus 
[11:03] <jsgotangco> congrats AliasVegas =)
[11:03] <cbx333> congrats AliasVegas :D
[11:03] <LaserJock> congrats AliasVegas 
[11:03] <ogra> hehe
[11:03] <AliasVegas> lol tanks guys!
[11:03] <ogra> cbx333, proxy some for us please :)
[11:03] <AliasVegas> I really will do my utmost to make a good impression
[11:04] <HedgeMage> :)
[11:04] <highvoltage> that part you've got nailed
[11:04] <AliasVegas> :)
[11:04] <ogra> oh, we're out of time ... 
[11:04] <ogra> any other business ? 
[11:04] <cbx333> well we gotta dash
[11:04] <cbx333> so
[11:04] <cbx333> can I just clarify
[11:04] <cbx333> was the art lead decided upon?
[11:04] <highvoltage> i really need to sleep, but there's one more thing if i can have a minute
[11:05] <cbx333> shoot highvoltage 
[11:05] <ogra> cbx333, yes, AliasVegas decided for it :)
[11:05] <rodarvus> AliasVegas, also, don't forget that Edubuntu (and Ubuntu) is a community - different opinions are welcome, (sane) arguments are welcome - do not take jsgotangco -1 as personal (it wasn't), but also don't let it get you down
[11:05] <AliasVegas> Thanks :)
[11:05] <jsgotangco> yeah
[11:05] <highvoltage> i think we need to get a community member who takes care of website content specifically
[11:05] <ogra> highvoltage, go ahead
[11:05] <cbx333> indeed.....if I remember corectly LaserJock was skeptical about giving me a +1
[11:05] <highvoltage> i have lots of ideas, but not enough time to manage or implement it
[11:05] <ogra> highvoltage, acesureas has fond some bugs ...
[11:06] <cbx333> highvoltage: sounds like a good idea
[11:06] <HedgeMage> I have to cut out... phone call
[11:06] <ogra> he's never in #edubuntu but in #ltsp
[11:06] <cbx333> did you have anyone in mind?
[11:06] <ogra> cia HedgeMage 
[11:06] <highvoltage> so does a few other people, i would like to see someone manage a website content team in the same way that the art team would be managed.
[11:06] <ogra> *ciao even
[11:06] <HedgeMage> highvoltage: if you need help with that, I can do some interim stuff until we get someone permanent, or help train, since I do so much drupal stuff already
[11:06] <highvoltage> cbx333, no, i don't
[11:06] <ogra> highvoltage, good idea
[11:06] <HedgeMage> highvoltage: I don't think I can commit to it as a permanent just-me thing though
[11:06] <pygi> highvoltage, I can also help, along with hedge
[11:06] <highvoltage> it's just something i thought i'd mention, so that people can start scouting :)
[11:06] <HedgeMage> now I'm really going 
[11:07] <cbx333> bye HedgeMage 
[11:07] <AliasVegas> bye :)
[11:07] <ogra> highvoltage, we'll see that we get that call in the next ubuntu news
[11:07] <cbx333> right we gotta dash now too guys
[11:07] <cbx333> see y'all later on
[11:07] <highvoltage> ogra, good idea, let's do that
[11:07] <Lure> Riddell: can you change bug 52021 to wishlist?
[11:07] <ogra> cbx333, AliasVegas thanks for attending !
[11:07] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 52021 in kdeadmin "Does not support 802.1x/WPA management" [Untriaged,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/52021
[11:07] <cbx333> np
[11:07] <jsgotangco> are we done?
[11:07] <highvoltage> i think so
[11:08] <AliasVegas> it was a pleasure! :)
[11:08] <ogra> urgh, since when does Ubugtu bug stuff in here ? 
[11:08] <highvoltage> ogra?
[11:08] <rodarvus> AliasVegas, thanks for attending, and again, welcome, and congratulations!
[11:08] <AliasVegas> Thanks for the kind words guys
[11:08] <ogra> yes, meeting adjourned 
[11:08] <mhz> highvoltage: if you have a detail of stuff you need help with, I am sure some Tecnocimiento people could help out
[11:08] <highvoltage> goodnight everyone
[11:08] <cbx333> nn
[11:08] <ogra> night highvoltage 
[11:08] <LaserJock> cya highvoltage 
[11:08] <highvoltage> mhz, thanks, let's chat tomorrow :)
[11:08] <highvoltage> cya lamont 
[11:08] <ogra> thanks all
[11:08] <mhz> okis
[11:08] <mhz> sure
[11:08] <mhz> nn
[11:08] <highvoltage> erm... LaserJock :)
[11:08] <LaserJock> hehe
[11:08] <ogra> heh
[11:08] <rodarvus> ogra, meeting is over yet?
[11:09] <jsgotangco> its 05:15 here =)
[11:09] <ogra> rodarvus, yep
[11:09] <rodarvus> ok, lets continue on #edubuntu then
[11:09] <ogra> i'm at :09 only
[11:09] <ogra> wher do you guys take the 6 mins ? 
[11:10] <LaserJock> ogra: I'm at 14:10 now
[11:16] <Seveas> ogra, I had requests for ubugtu to do bug things in here too
[11:16] <ogra> Seveas, its fine, i was just surprised
[11:16] <Seveas> hehe 
[11:17] <ogra> i'll remember not to put lists of bugs intop my weekly reports in the distro team meeting :P
[11:18] <Seveas> ogra, if people want it off, it'll be turned off
[11:19] <ogra> i dont care :)
[11:19] <ogra> i was just surprised, honestly :)
[11:19] <Seveas> ompaul thought it was enough to file a bug ;)
[11:20] <ompaul> Seveas, I just wanted to *bug* you