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#ubuntu-meeting [04:20] @schedule vilnius [04:20] Schedule for Europe/Vilnius: 05 Jul 23:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 15:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 05:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 22:00: Marketing Team === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === highvoltage [n=jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === GNAM [n=GNAM@host199-235.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:52] @schedule rome [05:52] Schedule for Europe/Rome: 05 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 21:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 14:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 04:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 21:00: Marketing Team [06:17] @schedule warsaw [06:17] Schedule for Europe/Warsaw: 05 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 21:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 14:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 04:00: Ubuntu Development Team 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Schedule for Africa/Johannesburg: 05 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 21:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 14:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 04:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 21:00: Marketing Team [07:49] highvoltage: ;) [07:50] :) [08:05] please when is the next CC ? :p [08:06] Sp4rKy, it is not set up yet [08:06] Sp4rKy, not known yet, or it would be in the topic [08:06] k [08:06] likely next tueday though [08:06] *tuesday [08:06] Kamion should get some mild poking === \sh [n=nnsherma@server3.servereyes.de] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Konversation] === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === lukkett1 [n=lukketto@host118-98.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Current meeting: Edubuntu | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 06 Jul 19:00 UTC: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 20:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 02:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 19:00 UTC: Marketing Team [09:55] hi [09:55] :o === cbx33 [n=542de178@209.152.164.93] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === AliasVegas [n=542de178@209.152.164.93] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:00] hey everybody [10:00] hello Mr ogra [10:00] hello [10:00] hi [10:00] howdy === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:01] hi LaserJock [10:01] as usual there is not much from the tech side that will take us only short (45min as usual :P) [10:01] haha [10:01] that was funny last time [10:02] i'm actually glad to see that this time, i'm quite tired :) [10:02] awww [10:02] there were some major changes in ltsp last week [10:02] oe [10:02] i work tightly with debian to create a 'real' upstream branch [10:03] i.e. adding makefiles all over the place and make regular tarball releases from that [10:03] which is the real upstream branch now, debians? or ltsp.org? === freemanen [n=freemane@c83-248-211-162.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:03] our [10:03] oooh. [10:03] we have the power [10:03] https://launchpad.net/products/ltsp/+branches [10:03] ltsp-mainline is the upstream branch now [10:04] that is fantastic news [10:04] ltsp-common-buildsys is the branch where we make the change to the makefile structure [10:04] ogra: are there changes to be made to my man pages? [10:04] if the feature works and is tested we'll merge it back in the upstreasm one [10:04] if so shout nd I can get them done early [10:05] ogra, any timeframe to have ltsp-common-buildsys stabilized and merged into mainline? [10:05] my edgy-ltsp branch will become the base for the edgy package [10:05] should I wait for it to be merged before working on my own? [10:05] rodarvus, i hope we manage it until UVF [10:05] I mean, I suppose the changes there are quite intrusive [10:05] not really [10:06] they only change the strucdture and we add Makefile.am and configure.in [10:06] the rest is autoconf automake stuff [10:06] good, no need to wait, then [10:06] rodarvus: go go go [10:06] :p [10:06] the filesystem structure changed a bit though [10:07] cbx33, its merge time still, no time for LTSP yet :) [10:07] we added all bits that need compilation to a src dir [10:07] rodarvus: heheh [10:07] exactly [10:07] feature development starts afetr UVF [10:08] I'm catching up on my work at work, so I can start to work on it at work if that makes sense [10:08] the big advantage is that we dont need to have a native package anymnore [10:08] additionally if you worked on ltsp, please have a look at the new plugin structure for ltsp-build-client [10:08] that sounds interesting. [10:09] yeh that does sound very interesting [10:09] you can add features by adding a plugin [10:09] do you want me to continue maintaining the man pages ogra ? [10:09] every distro will have its own plugin subdirt [10:09] the plugin hooks are documented somewhere? [10:09] or will that be handled by someone else now? [10:09] cbx33, indeed ! [10:09] Excellent [10:09] (just curious) [10:09] rodarvus, not yet [10:10] once new features are in I'll get right onit [10:10] then they are/should be documented on the TODO document ;) [10:10] rodarvus, but looking at the code will reveal the structure to you, its idiot proof simple [10:10] ok === cbx33 likes the sound of that [10:10] (i understood it, must be idiot proof) [10:10] I thought you were about to say I wrote it so cbx33 could understand it [10:10] wrote the spec in crayon eh? [10:10] nope, thats from vagrantc and otavio [10:11] heh [10:11] vagrant runs freegeek.org and otavio is .br debian developer [10:11] ah cool [10:11] oh, and ltsp messages are translatable ... [10:11] we have a .po file now [10:12] i've read some stuff from the freegeek guys, they have some bright people contributing there. lessdisks also seem to come from freegeek. [10:12] but enough ltsp ... its not the ltsp meeting :) [10:12] lessdisks was written by vrgrant [10:12] *vagrant [10:12] he is merging much of the lessdisks code into our ltsp [10:13] sooo === Klaidas [n=klaidas@unaffiliated/klaidas] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [10:13] SPECS ! [10:13] you wanna start? :) [10:13] we have a ton of specs, my last assigned one is in review [10:13] oooh, nice. he could certainly help on the diskless fat clients then, i'll bug him some time, but as you say, enough about ltsp :) [10:13] apparently LaserJock's was just approved [10:13] \o/ [10:14] highvoltage, he's in #ltsp from time to time [10:14] so are you all fine with the status of the specs on https://launchpad.net/people/ogra/+specs ? [10:14] I have three assigned to me, none of them approved yet. two of them are semi-approved. third one will be reviewed by fabbione when he returns [10:14] anything thats important and missing ? [10:14] nope [10:15] basically, all set [10:15] me too [10:15] anybody else ? [10:15] nope [10:15] my specs never made it to paris [10:15] LaserJock, set the LP status to approved please :) [10:15] what are we discussing? :) [10:15] oh, you did :) === Amaranth is late, as usual [10:15] Amaranth, specs [10:15] https://launchpad.net/people/ogra/+specs [10:15] Amaranth: specs, as part of the EC meeting [10:15] ogra, isn't it not done by ubuntu-reviewers? [10:16] rodarvus, i think only the owner can change it, but i might be wrong [10:16] it is set at approved [10:16] actually, I thought it could only be done by one of them :) (set it as approved) [10:16] yep [10:16] it wasnt before i reloaded :) [10:17] ok, any other tech stuff ? [10:18] not from my side [10:18] seems all quiet [10:18] anybody want to speak up about docs ? [10:18] were there any changes ? was there a cookbook meeting ? [10:18] (are any cookbook ppl here ?) [10:19] there is a meeting tomorrow === HedgeMage [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:19] so the schedule says [10:19] there ! [10:19] or is that ubuntu? [10:19] hey HedgeMage [10:19] HedgeMage, will clearify :) [10:19] ogra> anybody want to speak up about docs ? [10:19] were there any changes ? was there a cookbook meeting ? [10:19] (are any cookbook ppl here ?) [10:19] I'm sorry I'm late... TT is having a rough day :/ [10:19] What did I miss? [10:20] there is a cookbook meeting tomorrow (as the topic says :) ) [10:20] tech stuff [10:20] The cookbook meting is scheduled for tomorrow due to a conflict that caused us to postpone [10:20] there was none last week ? === HedgeMage shakes her head [10:20] nope [10:20] pygi had a conflict, and so did 3 other people, that's half our team [10:20] ah, k [10:21] any other doc stuff ? [10:21] where is pygi ? [10:21] tomorrow we'll be voting on a new name, assigning specific authors to their tasks, and working out the rough spots in our timeline [10:21] He's had some non-ubuntu stuff going on and hasn't been available much. [10:21] cool === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-228-138.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:22] ahh... there he is now :) [10:23] pygi, anything you want to add about doc stuff ? [10:23] ogra, I wasn't here, I can't know what was mentioned, but... [10:23] I just wanna add that we must and we will make Edgy "Cookbook" even more rocking :) [10:24] :) [10:24] :) === highvoltage2 [n=jono2@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:24] ok, next, artwork ... [10:25] do we want to handle the additional topic now as well ? [10:25] +1 [10:25] cbx33: might you have time to bring me up to speed since ogra is busy running the meeting? [10:25] (in /msg) [10:26] HedgeMage: bit diffcult atm, AliasVegas and I are sharing one computer [10:26] ouch ok [10:26] I'll just play along and read the minutes later [10:26] ok cool [10:26] the ubuntu artteam requested that we should have an artteam leader ... as lead as well as as single point of contact for them [10:27] additionally this person should take the decisions about edubuntus look and feel === HedgeMage hides as she is quite busy and an artistic disaster === cbx33 tries but often fails [10:27] cbx33: you are quite good :D [10:27] when the topic came up in paris, only one name came up all the time ... [10:28] sorry, my connection died there [10:28] ... that was AliasVegas :) [10:28] i missed the last few minutes too :/ [10:28] :) [10:28] :) === cbx333 [n=542de178@209.152.164.93] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:29] we all know her awesome artwork ... and had conversations proxied through cbx33... imho she's well suited for the job as we can see by what we already got from her ;) [10:29] right we now have two computers :D [10:29] ogra, I suggest you explain the details of the proposed task/responsability, and "officially" ask her if she is interested [10:29] AliasVegas, how about introducing yourself :) [10:29] thanks lol [10:30] ahh, so this is the famous wife and artist... I only know you from legend ;) [10:30] rodarvus, go ahead ... [10:30] Im Lisa, Just turned 21.... [10:30] (i dont need to lead all of the meeting ;) ) [10:30] oh yeah you need :P [10:30] ogra, just most :) [10:30] I'm currently involved in freelance webdesign [10:31] and of course edubuntu..... :) [10:31] I do harp on about it quite a lot right AliasVegas ? [10:31] yep [10:32] I would be very interested in helping out with anything I can [10:32] nice [10:32] well, let me tell you about our proposal :) [10:32] :) [10:32] :p [10:32] we are in need of a official artwork lead for the Edgy development cycle [10:33] this person will have close contact with the Ubuntu artwork team === highvoltage nods === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:33] and as a lead, will have the final "nod" on what is done with regards to artwork on Edubuntu (of course, with help from the artwork team) [10:34] and from the edubuntu community :) [10:34] indeed :D [10:34] another "bonus" would be to help bring more hands into our artwork team, of course :) [10:34] ogra, indeed [10:34] we always decided after discussion in the meetings about artwork stuff [10:34] when I say "Edubuntu artwork team", I really mean Edubuntu community members interested in all artwork related aspects of Edubuntu [10:34] even though the word of an art person should have the final say i dont think we should break with that tradition [10:35] well, we actually never had a separated artwork team ... [10:35] it was most of the people attending the meeting [10:35] nope, but I don;t think that that's the way it would function anyway, [10:35] (indeed there was/is a team on LP) [10:35] IOW, don't let clueless people like me tell you how to make things pretty when I should be coding or writing docs or something :P === pygi can bring two people to art team, which should help Lisa ^^ [10:36] :) [10:36] HedgeMage, critics are always welcome :) [10:36] I can bring someone to this team too [10:36] to help AliasVegas and all interested [10:36] anyhow [10:36] excellent [10:36] did AliasVegas accept? sorry, i missed a big part. [10:36] i can only bring myself (2 years of graphics design experience) but sadly not my time [10:36] we need to collect emails from these people, and mail out to them once the team is established [10:36] highvoltage, he haven't even asked her officially yet :) [10:37] ogra stop being so modest :p [10:37] cbx33, you read minds? i was about to say something similar :) [10:37] highvoltage: I think we haven't given her the chance to get a word in edgewise ;) [10:37] rodarvus, ok [10:37] highvoltage: I steal your thoughts in your sleep [10:37] mwuuhahahah [10:37] He does the same to me [10:37] AliasVegas, as a last comment, you'll obviously have all the necessary technical help you'll need, from us [10:37] cbx33, geez, that's when i have the most dangerous thoughts! [10:38] yeah, you wont have to care for packaging or how to get the art into the distro [10:38] I won;t tell everyone your super amazing world domination plan [10:38] Oh good lol [10:38] so you, and the other people interested only in artwork (if this is the case), don't need to worry about technical aspects [10:38] from past work experience, I know this is very important :) [10:39] :) [10:39] while we're at past work experience ... [10:39] anyone would like to add anything regarding the "job" responsabilities? :) [10:39] would be nice to have you as a member AliasVegas :) [10:39] ogra: are you meaning edubuntu membership? === highvoltage nods [10:39] (official edubuntu-member that is) [10:40] cbx333, well, it a big job membership should go alongside here ... [10:40] true [10:40] ogra, and I waited for membership for a month even when I was accepted ^-^ [10:40] What do I need to do to get membership? === pygi promises to be quiet :) [10:40] give ogra a bribe :p [10:41] usually you'd need to introduce yourself [10:41] and be voted [10:41] pygi: that's because you don't nag people as well as I do :P [10:41] ok :P [10:41] AliasVegas, cbx333 already did it ... your art contributions should suffice i think [10:41] but this seems to be a case of popular acclamation [10:41] santo subito! [10:41] only formal stuff like a LP account and a wikipage [10:41] ogra: what no vote? ;( [10:41] AliasVegas: has a wikipage [10:41] and an LP account [10:41] LaserJock, next EC i guess to give her time to prepare [10:41] LaserJock, don't worry, i'm sure you'll get to vote :) [10:41] OH ! [10:42] then we should indeed vote [10:42] but then we should also ask the usual questions :P [10:42] by the way, [10:42] ogra, but next week, right? [10:42] before we move too further on this subject :) === pygi thinks we should also do the cheerleading part :) [10:43] this is all moving too fast [10:43] my head is spinning [10:43] AliasVegas, do you have any questions, doubts, fears regarding what we say? Would you like us to elaborate more on the subject? [10:43] highvoltage, next week is no official EC ... we need to announce it ... [10:43] oh yes [10:43] I think my lovely husband has explained most of the gist to me [10:43] I thought today was EC? [10:44] it is [10:44] It should be. [10:44] yeah === cbx333 grins [10:44] good [10:44] We did my CoC retroactively when my laptop died, can't she do her LP stuff the same way? [10:44] LP stuff is done [10:44] all apart from GPG [10:44] to sign the CoC [10:44] cool [10:44] ok, but we need the signed CoC [10:45] I can get that done later [10:45] AliasVegas, and you need to apply for membership in the https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-members/+members team [10:45] on today [10:45] ok [10:45] doing now [10:45] ok [10:46] ok joined [10:46] we can vote in advance i think :) [10:46] hey === jsgotangco just woke up [10:46] hi jsgotangco [10:46] heya jsgotangco [10:46] tired yet? [10:46] morning jsgotangco [10:46] sorry im late === pygi thinks we should cheerlead first :P [10:46] jsgotangco, right in time for the fun :) === cbx333 lets pygi don the skirt [10:47] pygi, go ahead :) [10:47] ill scrollback first === mhz [n=mhz@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:47] pygi: put on this skirt and I'll chuck you across the channel :P [10:47] hi mhz [10:47] Do I want to know what "cheerleading" is? [10:47] not when pygi does it [10:47] it's scary :p [10:47] AliasVegas, you probably do [10:47] AliasVegas: people supporting you being made a member [10:47] cbx33, lol, all lies :( [10:47] AliasVegas, girls in short skirts jumping and shouting waving with pompoms [10:48] just watch out for falling pygis [10:48] I think she meant in context [10:48] hey, I was so surprised #edubuntu had no meeting going on...and then I remembered meetings are held here :( [10:48] :p [10:48] erghhh :P === jsgotangco its 5am here =) [10:48] i'm off, gn [10:48] cbx33, watch out the python questions now :P === cbx333 can't really start the cheerleading...I'm biased :p [10:48] whatever [10:48] awww shucks [10:48] lol [10:49] cbx333, thats no excuse === cbx333 stands up to the mic [10:49] \o_ lisa ! _o/ === ogra cheerleads if nobody else does [10:49] I think AliasVegas did a fantastic job on the wallpaper [10:49] lisa lisa she's the man, if she can't do it no one can! === highvoltage jumps === rodarvus agrees with cbx333 [10:50] from what I hear it's a big hit with people [10:50] umm, "man" ? ;p [10:50] heh [10:50] I'm no man! :( lol [10:50] highvoltage: I'm hoping "man" was just to rhyme [10:50] LaserJock, a figure of speach [10:50] cbx3333 yes [10:50] jeeze, he's not that old [10:50] lol [10:50] anyway .... [10:50] LaserJock, I hope he's not 333 too :) [10:51] seriously though, I think lisa proved herself with various artwork she's been working on === HedgeMage agrees [10:51] yeah [10:51] totally +1 [10:51] she has the skill and talent, and it is of very professional quality [10:51] cbx333, sh onlys the council ! [10:51] *shh even [10:51] the janew pic was also very impressive, i could tell it was her immediately :) [10:51] I have no doubt in her artistic ability, but this also requires a fair amount of community involvement [10:51] sorry.... I meant I agree with you guys [10:51] and putting up with cbx333 is a testament to her people skills ;) === HedgeMage ducks [10:51] grrr [10:51] sooo [10:51] LaserJock, we can always help her [10:52] LaserJock, jsgotangco, highvoltage ? [10:52] AliasVegas, are you prepared to become more involved with the edubuntu community? [10:52] YES [10:52] anyway, I'm +1 as long as she thinks she is up to it and is commited for Edgy at least === ogra votes +1 based on former contributions [10:52] AliasVegas, this would typically mean attenting at least one of these kinds of meetings a month, and helping manage whatever art team is formed [10:53] yes thats cool [10:53] highvoltage, actually, I believe its more like at least one (short) meeting per week === highvoltage votes +1 based on contributions, willingness to get more involved, and willingness to manage art team === cbx333 will drag AliasVegas to the meetings...not that I think I'll have to once she gets going :p [10:53] rodarvus, yes, it is, i was just thinking in terms of minimals [10:53] highvoltage, me too :) [10:53] sorry to spoil but i will have to -1 on this for now and wait for more involvement [10:54] Im happy to attend any meetings needed === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@dialup-4.159.11.227.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:54] rodarvus, hence the term 'at least' :) [10:54] only jeromes vote is missing, but we already have a majority [10:54] this is a position of responsability :) [10:54] I'm very comitted to my work [10:54] on. no, jsgotangco voted :) [10:54] ogra: jerome must be already zZzZing [10:54] h [10:54] no [10:54] hehe [10:54] ok, so was that the vote for art-lead or membership? === jsgotangco just did quick scrollback [10:55] membership, I though [10:55] so thats +3 vs -1 (which will change in the future, i'm sure) [10:55] thought [10:55] membership [10:55] LaserJock, membership [10:55] i dont think we need to vote on the artteam leadership ... there is nobody else who wants to do it :) [10:55] i would tend to agree with jsgotangco, it's better to see some form of long-term commitment, before committing a +1 for membership, but i also think that since the edubuntu team is still small, you can afford to be more lenient. [10:55] heh, true [10:56] or what ogra said :) [10:56] also note that you can't "vote" for leadership [10:56] leadership is something you earn [10:56] yeah [10:56] true [10:56] yes [10:56] :) [10:56] it should come naturally [10:56] yep [10:56] and lisa made the commitment already, so no need to do more here for the council [10:57] it comes naturally [10:57] and this is what we expect from AliasVegas :) [10:57] yeah :) [10:57] don't pressure people :P [10:57] she'll be great I know it :D [10:57] highvoltage: i wouldn't want to say we have to be more lenient because edubuntu membership = ubuntu membership [10:57] and again, we are here to help, in any possible way - AliasVegas - just don't forget to ask :) [10:57] ok, but I'm stuck on this, does being art lead imply being a -member ? [10:58] in other news rodarvus got an official ubuntu-member i'll just announce here that i'll add him to edubuntu-members [10:58] (after the meeting) [10:58] jsgotangco, hmmm, i haven't considered that [10:58] highvoltage: people have waited months to be approved and even had a hard time gathering supporters [10:58] cbx33, shhh python :) [10:58] ogra: yes please [10:59] jsgotangco, but not many people can show off with a wallpaper thats shipped on a *buntu CD [10:59] jsgotangco, on the other hand, ubuntu-membership == people that care, and contribute [10:59] I know AliasVegas cares a lot and is extremely passionate about her work [10:59] and who have shown long-term, sustained contribution? [11:00] yeah [11:00] ogra: sure +1 point on that, but we only had 1 contribution for the wallpaper for dapper please correct me if i am wrong [11:00] iirc, sustained contrib. is one the top keys [11:00] jsgotangco, bleh, but wallpaper was great :) [11:00] jsgotangco, JaneW was in discussion with another guy ... highvoltage who was that ? [11:01] he didnt really deliver anything ... [11:01] pygi: but quality alone doesn't equal sustained contribution [11:01] LaserJock, indeed [11:01] I mean the main point is that....in artwork in general, it sis difficult to make a big impression [11:01] ogra: toxictoadz? [11:01] there isn't as much that can be done as in doc/tech is there? [11:01] yep [11:01] ogra: he is very talented, but equally hard to get hold of [11:01] jsgotangco, but still the vote was 3:1 [11:01] AliasVegas: how long (in hours) would you say you've worked on Edubuntu stuff? [11:02] AliasVegas, did i say congrats ! ? [11:02] ogra: im not arguing about the vote [11:02] jsgotangco, i know [11:02] 3 days give or take [11:02] cbx33: yeah, harder than doc stuff (ie) but still there's always stuff to work on related to art [11:02] i just figured i havent congratulated AliasVegas yet :) [11:02] Thanks ogra [11:02] AliasVegas, congratulations! [11:03] AliasVegas, congratulations! [11:03] AliasVegas, and welcome to the Edubuntu team! (officially) [11:03] AliasVegas: well, then \o/ ! [11:03] yay [11:03] Thanks highvoltage & rodarvus [11:03] congrats AliasVegas =) [11:03] congrats AliasVegas :D [11:03] congrats AliasVegas === HedgeMage hugs AliasVegas congrats! === cbx333 gives her a real life hug :D [11:03] hehe [11:03] lol tanks guys! [11:03] cbx333, proxy some for us please :) [11:03] I really will do my utmost to make a good impression [11:04] :) [11:04] that part you've got nailed [11:04] :) [11:04] oh, we're out of time ... [11:04] any other business ? [11:04] well we gotta dash [11:04] so [11:04] can I just clarify [11:04] was the art lead decided upon? [11:04] i really need to sleep, but there's one more thing if i can have a minute [11:05] shoot highvoltage [11:05] cbx333, yes, AliasVegas decided for it :) [11:05] AliasVegas, also, don't forget that Edubuntu (and Ubuntu) is a community - different opinions are welcome, (sane) arguments are welcome - do not take jsgotangco -1 as personal (it wasn't), but also don't let it get you down [11:05] Thanks :) [11:05] yeah [11:05] i think we need to get a community member who takes care of website content specifically [11:05] highvoltage, go ahead [11:05] indeed.....if I remember corectly LaserJock was skeptical about giving me a +1 [11:05] i have lots of ideas, but not enough time to manage or implement it [11:05] highvoltage, acesureas has fond some bugs ... [11:06] highvoltage: sounds like a good idea [11:06] I have to cut out... phone call === HedgeMage waves [11:06] he's never in #edubuntu but in #ltsp [11:06] did you have anyone in mind? [11:06] cia HedgeMage [11:06] so does a few other people, i would like to see someone manage a website content team in the same way that the art team would be managed. [11:06] *ciao even [11:06] highvoltage: if you need help with that, I can do some interim stuff until we get someone permanent, or help train, since I do so much drupal stuff already [11:06] cbx333, no, i don't [11:06] highvoltage, good idea [11:06] highvoltage: I don't think I can commit to it as a permanent just-me thing though [11:06] highvoltage, I can also help, along with hedge [11:06] it's just something i thought i'd mention, so that people can start scouting :) [11:06] now I'm really going === HedgeMage waves [11:07] bye HedgeMage [11:07] bye :) [11:07] highvoltage, we'll see that we get that call in the next ubuntu news [11:07] right we gotta dash now too guys [11:07] see y'all later on [11:07] ogra, good idea, let's do that [11:07] Riddell: can you change bug 52021 to wishlist? [11:07] cbx333, AliasVegas thanks for attending ! [11:07] Malone bug 52021 in kdeadmin "Does not support 802.1x/WPA management" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/52021 [11:07] np [11:07] are we done? [11:07] i think so [11:08] it was a pleasure! :) [11:08] urgh, since when does Ubugtu bug stuff in here ? [11:08] ogra? === VooDoo [n=paul@cpc2-mapp2-0-0-cust650.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:08] AliasVegas, thanks for attending, and again, welcome, and congratulations! [11:08] Thanks for the kind words guys [11:08] yes, meeting adjourned === Lure is sorry - wrong channel [11:08] highvoltage: if you have a detail of stuff you need help with, I am sure some Tecnocimiento people could help out [11:08] goodnight everyone [11:08] nn [11:08] night highvoltage [11:08] cya highvoltage [11:08] mhz, thanks, let's chat tomorrow :) [11:08] cya lamont [11:08] thanks all [11:08] okis [11:08] sure [11:08] nn [11:08] erm... LaserJock :) [11:08] hehe [11:08] heh === VooDoo [n=paul@cpc2-mapp2-0-0-cust650.nott.cable.ntl.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] [11:08] ogra, meeting is over yet? === mhz is at 17:15 [11:09] its 05:15 here =) [11:09] rodarvus, yep [11:09] ok, lets continue on #edubuntu then [11:09] i'm at :09 only [11:09] wher do you guys take the 6 mins ? [11:10] ogra: I'm at 14:10 now === mhz gets back to #edubuntu and also slaps himself for not getting that meeting was here instead === mhz [n=mhz@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [11:16] ogra, I had requests for ubugtu to do bug things in here too [11:16] Seveas, its fine, i was just surprised [11:16] hehe [11:17] i'll remember not to put lists of bugs intop my weekly reports in the distro team meeting :P [11:18] ogra, if people want it off, it'll be turned off [11:19] i dont care :) [11:19] i was just surprised, honestly :) [11:19] ompaul thought it was enough to file a bug ;) [11:20] Seveas, I just wanted to *bug* you === mathias [n=mathias@chello213047054216.31.11.tuwien.teleweb.at] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-66-37.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Flik [n=Flik@d205-250-156-195.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === freemanen [n=freemane@c83-248-211-162.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-meeting