| crimsun | heh. elmo doesn't sound too pleased. | 12:10 |
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| cypher1 | which distro should i use when creating using pbuilder ? | 12:20 |
| cypher1 | i cannot find breezy there ! | 12:20 |
| cypher1 | all are debian line | 12:20 |
| crimsun | erm? | 12:21 |
| crimsun | for what purpose? | 12:21 |
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| cypher1 | crimsun, for building a package | 12:22 |
| cypher1 | pbuilder create [--basetgz base.tgz-path] [--distribution potato|woody|sarge|etch|sid|experimental] | 12:23 |
| cypher1 | --removepackages [packages-to-remove on pbuilder create] | 12:23 |
| cypher1 | --extrapackages [packages-to-add on pbuilder create] | 12:23 |
| cypher1 | i am packagin from scratch | 12:24 |
| crimsun | cp /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/examples/pbuilder-distribution.sh . && mv pbuilder-distribution.sh pbuilder-dapper && mkdir -p ~/pbuilder/result && ./pbuilder-dapper create | 12:24 |
| crimsun | is your target release dapper or edgy? | 12:25 |
| cypher1 | i wanted to try for breezy | 12:25 |
| cypher1 | in the case i can use the cd from which the pbuilder will create | 12:26 |
| crimsun | so in the above command sequence, replace dapper with breezy. | 12:27 |
| cypher1 | can i use cd to get the minimal environmenr | 12:29 |
| crimsun | it'll take some finagling, but yes | 12:30 |
| cypher1 | crimsun, ok thanks.. | 12:32 |
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| cypher1 | E: Failed getting release file http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/dists/breezy/Release | 12:45 |
| LaserJock | you're going to need to set MIRRORSITE to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu | 12:48 |
| LaserJock | oops, actually it is just MIRROR | 12:49 |
| crimsun | ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/dists/breezy is invalid. | 12:49 |
| crimsun | note that's a Debian URL [http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/] not a Ubuntu one. | 12:49 |
| cypher1 | LaserJock, crimsun thanks a lot.. was just realizing it while reading manual of debootstrap :) | 12:50 |
| cypher1 | i guess if MIRROR=file:///media/cdrom to work ;) | 12:51 |
| cypher1 | ok all.. need to sleep.. thanks for the help | 12:54 |
| cypher1 | good night | 12:54 |
| LaserJock | cya cypher1 | 12:55 |
| bluefoxicy | ugh help | 12:55 |
| bluefoxicy | tell me how to force dpkg to think xfonts-dosemu is not installed without uninstalling it | 12:56 |
| crimsun | why not append ||true to whatever p{re,ost}{inst,rm} maintainer script lines as a hackaround? | 01:00 |
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| fowlduck | perhaps someone here will know what is used to automount drives in ubuntu and how I can disable the automountng | 01:10 |
| hub | pmount and HAL + gnome-volume-manager | 01:11 |
| LaserJock | fowlduck: like hard drives or removable drives? | 01:12 |
| fowlduck | hub, cool, thanks | 01:12 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, removable devices | 01:12 |
| LaserJock | System -> Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media | 01:12 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, basically I want my hard drive to mount on boot, but everything else has to be manual | 01:12 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, does that truly not automount it by unchecking those boxes? | 01:13 |
| LaserJock | yeah, that's the point I believe | 01:14 |
| fowlduck | hmm, ok | 01:14 |
| fowlduck | now, are those options accessible programatically? | 01:14 |
| LaserJock | I would assume so, but I don't know where exactly | 01:15 |
| hub | fowlduck: other partitions? | 01:15 |
| fowlduck | hub, no, are the options to turn off automounting available to be changed programatically | 01:16 |
| hub | gconf | 01:16 |
| hub | that is where g-v-m store the things | 01:16 |
| fowlduck | ok | 01:16 |
| crimsun | /desktop/gnome/volume_manager/ | 01:17 |
| crimsun | use gconftool-2 to query/set | 01:17 |
| fowlduck | crimsun, perfect, thanks | 01:17 |
| hub | can somebody review this http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2599 ? | 01:21 |
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| jsgotangco | good morning | 01:36 |
| fowlduck | g'morning | 01:37 |
| fowlduck | well, almost good evening where i am | 01:37 |
| crimsun | hub: where's the orig.tar.gz? | 01:40 |
| hub | crimsun: it didn't get uploaded? | 01:44 |
| hub | crap | 01:44 |
| hub | *sigh* | 01:44 |
| hub | redoing an upload then | 01:45 |
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| hub | crimsun: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2600 | 01:50 |
| crimsun | hub: those are some pretty strong versioned build-dependencies. Do you anticipate no requests for backporting to dapper-backports? | 01:52 |
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| hub | crimsun: it builds on dapper | 01:53 |
| crimsun | hub: ok. | 01:53 |
| crimsun | hub: the only other suggestion I have is that you change ".org" to "organisation" in debian/control:Description | 01:54 |
| hub | ok | 01:55 |
| crimsun | let me know the new url, and I'll advocate. | 01:55 |
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| hub | ok | 01:56 |
| fbond | anyone care to look at some packages on revu: midisport-firmware, sclapp, autosmbmnt, magicpipe? | 01:56 |
| fowlduck | is it just me or is the calife package rather useless? | 01:56 |
| fbond | oh, and lash ... ? | 01:56 |
| crimsun | lash has already been synced. | 01:56 |
| fbond | oh | 01:56 |
| fbond | where the heck did that come from | 01:56 |
| crimsun | from Sid | 01:56 |
| fbond | I never saw an ITP | 01:56 |
| fbond | crud | 01:57 |
| fbond | ok, ditch that one then | 01:57 |
| fbond | fine memory you have there, BTW | 01:57 |
| crimsun | [https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edgy-changes/2006-July/000964.html] | 01:57 |
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| fbond | crimsun, there are packages on revu that I uploaded for Dapper, but eventually were brought in as part of the aptget.org spec | 01:58 |
| fbond | should those be junked, probably? | 01:58 |
| fbond | and can you do that, if so? | 01:58 |
| crimsun | If they're in Dapper proper already, they can be archived. I'm not a REVU admin. | 01:59 |
| hub | which one? | 01:59 |
| fbond | the packages are: fluidsynth-dssi, xsynth-dssi, hexter | 01:59 |
| hub | I'll archive then | 02:00 |
| fbond | thanks! | 02:00 |
| hub | np | 02:00 |
| hub | crimsun: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2601 | 02:00 |
| hub | the newer upload | 02:01 |
| hub | time to go | 02:01 |
| hub | c-ya | 02:01 |
| crimsun | done. | 02:01 |
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| fowlduck | crimsun, do you use the revu-tools package? | 02:14 |
| crimsun | fowlduck: no, but it's a good idea. | 02:14 |
| fowlduck | crimsun, just wondering, so if I go to submit something I can save everyone some time | 02:15 |
| crimsun | yes, it's a good idea. | 02:15 |
| crimsun | ->out for the evening. | 02:15 |
| fowlduck | crimsun, night then | 02:18 |
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| LaserJock | hi bmonty | 02:19 |
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| bluefoxicy | <crimsun> why not append ||true to whatever p{re,ost}{inst,rm} maintainer script lines as a hackaround? | 02:37 |
| bluefoxicy | crimsun: directions | 02:37 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:27 |
| LaserJock | hi bddebian | 03:27 |
| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 03:28 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all | 03:37 |
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| Hawkwind | Hi ya Hobbsee | 04:23 |
| Hobbsee | hey Hawkwind | 04:23 |
| === Hobbsee isnt here. | ||
| Hawkwind | Heh, dare I ask where you actually are :P | 04:24 |
| Hobbsee | Hawkwind: i'm driving to pick up a friend. | 04:24 |
| fowlduck | Hobbsee, on irc while driving? | 04:24 |
| Hawkwind | Oh. Well have fun and be safe | 04:24 |
| fowlduck | Hobbsee, thats worse than a cellphone | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | fowlduck: no, buti should be driving, but i'm here | 04:25 |
| fowlduck | Hobbsee, ahh, ok, in that case you are banished hencforth until you pick up your friend, be gone~ | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | fowlduck: heh | 04:27 |
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| bluefoxicy | Female removed | 05:22 |
| bluefoxicy | Internet stabilized. | 05:22 |
| bluefoxicy | heh. "There are no girls on the internet" is quickly turning into "there are plenty of girls on the internet, and some of them aren't lesbians" | 05:23 |
| bluefoxicy | I swear the net is going through puberty or something. | 05:23 |
| bddebian | bluefoxicy: :-) | 05:28 |
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| lukaswayne9 | Hello! I'm running edgy right now. I'd to compile some packages for dapper, how can I set something like that up? | 06:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | set up a chroot? | 06:20 |
| bddebian | Or a pbuilder, either one | 06:20 |
| lukaswayne9 | Do you know of any nice guides on helping me with that? | 06:20 |
| lukaswayne9 | what's the difference between chroot and pbuilder? | 06:21 |
| bddebian | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto | 06:21 |
| lukaswayne9 | thanks | 06:21 |
| bddebian | NP | 06:22 |
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| bddebian | Gnight folks | 06:47 |
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| imbrandon | crimsun: ping got a few minutes to walk me though something ? | 07:53 |
| imbrandon | if its a bad time np | 07:53 |
| crimsun | imbrandon: give me 2 mins, plesae | 07:53 |
| crimsun | please^ | 07:53 |
| imbrandon | np | 07:53 |
| imbrandon | sure | 07:53 |
| crimsun | imbrandon: what's up? | 07:58 |
| imbrandon | well i have a fresh dapper install on this lappy ( ppc ) with NO pbuilders setup yet , was wondering if you could step me through makin a edgy one ( i have done it in the past but never cleanly always had to mess with it for days to get it working ) | 07:59 |
| imbrandon | thought maybe you could help me with the right way (tm) | 07:59 |
| crimsun | imbrandon: well, there are at least 2 ways on dapper | 07:59 |
| imbrandon | is there one you recomend ? | 08:00 |
| imbrandon | i ahve pbuilder and stuff installed etc just not configured at all | 08:00 |
| imbrandon | on this box | 08:00 |
| crimsun | imbrandon: the easier way is probably: cp /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/examples/pbuilder-distribution.sh ~/pbuilder-dapper && mkdir -p ~/pbuilder/result && ~/pbuilder-dapper create --othermirror deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper restricted | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiverse | 08:04 |
| crimsun | err, sorry | 08:04 |
| crimsun | imbrandon: the easier way is probably: cp /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/examples/pbuilder-distribution.sh ~/pbuilder-dapper && mkdir -p ~/pbuilder/result && ~/pbuilder-dapper create --othermirror deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy restricted | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy multiverse | 08:04 |
| imbrandon | ok cool thanks a ton crimsun as i said i have done it in the past and got it working just never "the right way"(tm) from the start | 08:05 |
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| imbrandon | ;) | 08:05 |
| imbrandon | crimsun: then after thats done i can just use it normaly like , pbuilder clean , pbuilder update , etc etc etc ? | 08:07 |
| crimsun | imbrandon: there's no real need to use 'clean' regularly | 08:07 |
| imbrandon | ahh ok | 08:07 |
| imbrandon | do i rename it to ~/pbuilder-edgy also when done ? | 08:07 |
| crimsun | if you're using dapper's debootstrap/pbuilder, no | 08:08 |
| imbrandon | kk | 08:08 |
| imbrandon | just have to know thats an edgy one | 08:08 |
| imbrandon | ok | 08:08 |
| crimsun | well, you can also just dpkg -i edgy's debootstrap and pbuilder packages | 08:08 |
| imbrandon | hrm | 08:09 |
| crimsun | then just cp /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/examples/pbuilder-distribution.sh ~/pbuilder-edgy && mkdir -p ~/pbuilder/result && ~/pbuilder-edgy create | 08:09 |
| imbrandon | that might be better i think, dont think it will cause problemns do you ? | 08:09 |
| crimsun | it hasn't caused any problems on the debian-amd64 shell I'm using | 08:09 |
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| imbrandon | coo; thanks | 08:11 |
| imbrandon | cool* | 08:11 |
| crimsun | np | 08:11 |
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| \sh | moins | 09:27 |
| highvoltage | moin moins | 09:28 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 09:58 |
| rob | hi dholbach | 09:59 |
| dholbach | hey rob | 09:59 |
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| Gloubiboulga | morning dholbach, rob | 10:02 |
| rob | hiya Gloubiboulga | 10:03 |
| dholbach | heya Gloubiboulga | 10:03 |
| Toadstool | 'morning | 10:03 |
| Gloubiboulga | Do we have a clear policy about UVF and NEW packages (after UVF) in universe for edgy? | 10:18 |
| dholbach | yes | 10:19 |
| dholbach | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule | 10:20 |
| dholbach | -> UniverseFreeze | 10:20 |
| TheMuso | Hey guys. Could some MOTUs please have a look at my merges in revu? These are libibtk, and speech-dispatcher. I also have other packages, espeak, and lsr, which also need review. I particularly would like priority given to espeak and speech-dispatcher, as these will eventually be moved into main and seeded, so they need to be in ASAP. | 10:20 |
| Gloubiboulga | thanks dholbach | 10:21 |
| crimsun | July 13th is ... pretty imminent. | 10:21 |
| dholbach | spoken like a true motu :) | 10:22 |
| Toadstool | :) | 10:22 |
| dholbach | that's why I talked to mdz in Paris | 10:23 |
| crimsun | I mean, I'm hurrying through merges as fast as humanly possible given work constraints, but ... | 10:23 |
| dholbach | there's too much to do | 10:24 |
| dholbach | revu, upstream versions, merges, etc | 10:24 |
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| Gloubiboulga | can we directly upload new release packages (packages already in ubuntu but not in debian)? I think I've never had to do this before | 10:29 |
| crimsun | 0ubuntu1s? sure. | 10:29 |
| Gloubiboulga | ok, thanks crimsun | 10:30 |
| crimsun | np | 10:30 |
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| crimsun | freeflying|away: please feel free to upload zhcon-0.2.6; I'll be pretty busy this week | 10:31 |
| freeflying|away | crimsun: me too, heh | 10:32 |
| crimsun | ah, ok | 10:33 |
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| Gloubiboulga | TheMuso, added on my TODO list, wil have a look at your packages (if nobody's already started) | 10:44 |
| Gloubiboulga | s/wil/will | 10:44 |
| TheMuso | Gloubiboulga: Thanks a lot. | 10:45 |
| TheMuso | Those priority packages are spec related, much appreciated. | 10:45 |
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| crimsun | I'll do espeak now. | 10:49 |
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| TheMuso | crimsun: Gloubiboulga looked at espeak previously, noting a few things, which I have fixed up. | 10:50 |
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| crimsun | TheMuso: suggestion: in debian/control:Description, use "text to speech system (TTS)" first. I wasn't familiar with the acronym. | 10:54 |
| TheMuso | oh ok | 10:55 |
| crimsun | (2nd para) | 10:55 |
| TheMuso | That was a copy and paste. :) | 10:55 |
| crimsun | looks solid | 10:58 |
| TheMuso | Ok, if there is nothing else, I'll put this slightly revised one up. :) | 10:58 |
| crimsun | ok, let me know the URL, please | 10:58 |
| TheMuso | on revu I mean. | 10:58 |
| crimsun | (right) | 10:58 |
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| TheMuso | Hey Hobbsee. | 10:59 |
| Hobbsee | hi TheMuso | 10:59 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: where in particular are you? | 10:59 |
| TheMuso | Hobbsee: At home atm. | 11:00 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: fair enough | 11:00 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 11:00 |
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| crimsun | "in #ubuntu-motu" | 11:01 |
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| TheMuso | crimsun: Ok its up. | 11:01 |
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| TheMuso | Hobbsee: Were you wondering anything more specific? | 11:03 |
| crimsun | looks good. | 11:03 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: yeah, i was | 11:03 |
| TheMuso | crimsun: Ok thanks a lot. | 11:03 |
| crimsun | TheMuso: np | 11:03 |
| ajmitch | hi | 11:04 |
| TheMuso | Hey ajmitch. | 11:04 |
| Hobbsee | hi stranger named ajmitch | 11:04 |
| ajmitch | :P | 11:05 |
| crimsun | wow, a real live StevenK upload :p. Two! | 11:05 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: yeah, it happens occasionally, when he's poked into working. | 11:06 |
| crimsun | oh, Three. | 11:06 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: really? amazing | 11:06 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: he must be jumping often | 11:07 |
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| Hobbsee | crimsun: heh | 11:07 |
| TheMuso | Hobbsee: Are you still a MOTU hopeful, or are you a MOTU for real? | 11:07 |
| crimsun | (she's getting the bofh down, that's for sure) | 11:08 |
| ajmitch | hah | 11:08 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: i'm not a MOTU. | 11:08 |
| TheMuso | heh | 11:08 |
| === Hobbsee might never apply for it. | ||
| TheMuso | Hobbsee: Right. | 11:08 |
| Hobbsee | you never know | 11:08 |
| === TheMuso will once he doesn't have to do several successive uploads to revu to get a package right. | ||
| Gloubiboulga | TheMuso, espeak uploaded | 11:10 |
| TheMuso | Gloubiboulga: Thanks heaps. | 11:10 |
| crimsun | :) | 11:10 |
| Gloubiboulga | TheMuso, np :) | 11:11 |
| === ajmitch should try & do MOTU stuff sometime | ||
| ajmitch | before I get poked into uploading as well | 11:11 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 11:11 |
| === Hobbsee will poke you for uploads, dont worry. | ||
| ajmitch | wonderful | 11:12 |
| Hobbsee | in fact... | 11:13 |
| TheMuso | heh | 11:13 |
| crimsun | hmm, that's ... odd. | 11:13 |
| crimsun | click on speech-dispatcher and get "directory (/var/revu/revu1-incoming/speech-dispatcher-0606292345/) of upload (2554) not found" | 11:14 |
| TheMuso | Got the same thing. | 11:14 |
| seaLne | i'm having problems trying to package a new program in its Makefile.defs it specifies "-I/usr/local/ssl/include -I/usr/sfw/include" which don't exist if i change the ssl one to be /usr/include/openssl/ it dosen't compile, any ideas? | 11:15 |
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| crimsun | I take it said package doesn't use autotools? | 11:17 |
| seaLne | no | 11:17 |
| seaLne | it has these defined: | 11:17 |
| seaLne | INCDIRS = -I/usr/local/ssl/include -I/usr/sfw/include -I. -Ilib | 11:17 |
| seaLne | LIBDIRS = -L/usr/local/ssl/lib -I/usr/sfw/lib -L. | 11:17 |
| seaLne | i already changed the normal stuff in the Makefile but this has me confused | 11:18 |
| TheMuso | Makefiles suck for this reason. :) | 11:18 |
| TheMuso | IMO | 11:18 |
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| crimsun | I wonder why it says -I/usr/sfw/lib instead of -L/usr/sfw/lib | 11:19 |
| TheMuso | What is sfw anyway? | 11:19 |
| seaLne | no idea | 11:19 |
| seaLne | that was my next question | 11:19 |
| seaLne | :) | 11:19 |
| crimsun | that should be documented in the source's README/INSTALL/foo | 11:20 |
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| seaLne | its not | 11:21 |
| crimsun | how courteous | 11:21 |
| TheMuso | Gloubiboulga: Thanks for the mail. | 11:22 |
| MadMan2k | I've got some general questions regarding packaging: | 11:23 |
| MadMan2k | if I add lets say -march=athlon-xp to debian/rules, the package still has the suffix _i386. is this correct? | 11:23 |
| crimsun | seaLne: how does it use SSL in the preprocessor statements? (Paste an example #include) | 11:23 |
| crimsun | MadMan2k: yes, but that's Very Bad Practice. | 11:23 |
| TheMuso | MadMan2k: AFAIK yes. | 11:24 |
| Yagisan | yeah, but if you do add -march=athlon-xp, MadMan2k, it won't be acceptable for ubuntu | 11:24 |
| Yagisan | bah. too slow | 11:24 |
| MadMan2k | thx, just wanted to know this for my personal use :) | 11:24 |
| seaLne | crimsun: weird now if i correct the ssl bits it still builds | 11:24 |
| crimsun | seaLne: as it should. | 11:25 |
| seaLne | yeah which was why i was confused before :) | 11:25 |
| MadMan2k | next one: is it safe to generally use CDBS? | 11:26 |
| seaLne | /usr/sfw seems to be a place to symlink stuff in solaris? | 11:26 |
| StevenK | crimsun: Don't make me kick you. :-P | 11:27 |
| ajmitch | hello StevenK | 11:28 |
| crimsun | StevenK :p | 11:28 |
| Hobbsee | hi StevenK | 11:29 |
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| === Hobbsee is splattered on the ground again. | ||
| ajmitch | more squashed Hobbsee to clean off the channel again | 11:29 |
| Hobbsee | hehe, yeah, go ahead and try | 11:30 |
| === Hobbsee will just stay here to haunt you. | ||
| Hobbsee | and to throw furry eyeballs at people. | 11:30 |
| StevenK | Just me, or the entire channel? | 11:30 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: entire channel, of course | 11:31 |
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| Yagisan | o_O I had to read that twice Hobbsee. missed the eye first time. | 11:33 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: what, you expected me to throw furry people around??? | 11:33 |
| StevenK | Maybe he meant 'furry balls' | 11:34 |
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| ajmitch | ok.. | 11:35 |
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| ajmitch | rather annoying at times, isn't i? | 11:36 |
| StevenK | Indeed. | 11:36 |
| StevenK | If I run gnuclient by accident, it starts the X client on :0.0 | 11:37 |
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| StevenK | Ow! | 11:41 |
| ajmitch | what a surprise | 11:42 |
| crimsun | oh the violence. | 11:45 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 11:45 |
| StevenK | You should see the bruise she left. :-P | 11:45 |
| === Hobbsee is violent, yes. | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 11:45 |
| === StevenK ponders eating dinner. | ||
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| StevenK | Whatever. It's only my mothers spagetti bols. | 11:46 |
| StevenK | From Liar Liar, "I've had better." | 11:46 |
| seaLne | for those of you not totally uninterested /usr/sfw is where SunFreeWare.org stuff is installed on solaris | 11:49 |
| StevenK | Hah. I was about mutter 'FHS', and then I read 'on Solaris'. | 11:50 |
| Hobbsee | could be tasty | 11:50 |
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| TheMuso | seaLne: Interesting. | 12:09 |
| MadMan2k | quick question: how can I alter the prefix to /usr/local7 using cdbs? | 12:21 |
| MadMan2k | * /usr/local/ | 12:21 |
| TheMuso | THere is a cdbs variable that can be set to specify alternate configure flags. Not sure if it is possible to override the prefix that way. A cdbs guru will have a better idea about that. | 12:22 |
| MadMan2k | thanks, I'll try: DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS | 12:28 |
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| Seveas | \sh, you around? | 12:55 |
| \sh | Seveas: somehow :) | 12:55 |
| Seveas | \sh, you run your own jabber service, right? | 12:56 |
| \sh | Seveas: yepp | 12:56 |
| Seveas | which daemon? | 12:56 |
| \sh | ejabberd | 12:56 |
| Seveas | (and if you have time to answer: why that one) | 12:56 |
| Seveas | does ejabberd have an msn transport? | 12:57 |
| \sh | because it's more stable then jabberd2..I used first jabberd2 in the beginning, and the core modules (s2s, c2s etc.) had problems with utf8 xml characters etc. | 12:57 |
| \sh | Seveas: all transports are external...so you can plug them in easily. for msn you should use PyMSN-t | 12:58 |
| Seveas | thanks! | 12:58 |
| \sh | Seveas: but ejabberd integrates MUC, PubSub, and an rudmentary irc transport | 12:58 |
| rob | actually, we are working on a server side "transport" for jabber for freenode :) | 12:58 |
| Seveas | \sh, is the hoary version any good or would you recommend a backport of the dapper version? | 12:59 |
| Seveas | rob, sounds nice | 12:59 |
| \sh | Seveas: I'm using a selfbuild 1.0.0 version of ejabberd... | 12:59 |
| \sh | Seveas: on hoary that is | 12:59 |
| Seveas | thanks again, wont bother you with more questions | 01:00 |
| \sh | Seveas: I'm happy to help := | 01:00 |
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| MadMan2k | still trying to cahnge --prefix using cdbs - anyone an idea? | 01:31 |
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| kelmo | MadMan2k: COMMON_CONFIGURE_FLAGS or DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS as per /usr/share/doc/cdbs/cdbs-doc.pdf.gz | 01:35 |
| MadMan2k | tried both but it still sets --prefix=/usr | 01:36 |
| MadMan2k | but in case of DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS Im getting my prefix appended at the end | 01:37 |
| Toadstool | MadMan2k: in my wide-dhcpv6 package I use DEB_MAKE_INSTALL_TARGET += prefix=$(DEB_DESTDIR)/usr | 01:38 |
| Toadstool | kinda ugly but at least it works... | 01:39 |
| kelmo | or, forget the autotools cdbs class and configure by a hand written command . . . | 01:39 |
| Toadstool | and then forget about cdbs and even debhelper and do it all by hand :) | 01:40 |
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| kelmo | well, you can go to that extreme too ;-) | 01:40 |
| dholbach | MadMan2k: do you first include stuff and then use deb_configure_extra_flags? | 01:41 |
| MadMan2k | yep | 01:41 |
| kelmo | set the var first | 01:41 |
| azeem | how about modifying the universe irc clients to connect to #ubuntu/irc.freenode.net by default, rather than #debian/irc.debian.org by default? | 01:45 |
| azeem | apparently, at least some of them do so | 01:45 |
| MadMan2k | kelmo: just did so and it doesnt recognize any options at all | 01:48 |
| kelmo | MadMan2k: then my menory fails me, sorry | 01:49 |
| kelmo | memory* | 01:49 |
| Toadstool | when you include the file it defines the var and overrides any previous definitions, doesn't it? | 01:50 |
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| MadMan2k | ok the solution is: DEB_CONFIGURE_PREFIX | 02:07 |
| MadMan2k | I hate this undocumented shit | 02:07 |
| Toadstool | why do you use it then? :) | 02:07 |
| tseng | thats what you get for using CDBS | 02:07 |
| MadMan2k | its easier to look it up in the source then write the source myself :D | 02:08 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 02:42 |
| Toadstool | hey bddebian | 02:42 |
| bddebian | Heya Toadstool | 02:42 |
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| \sh | sivang: ping | 03:17 |
| \sh | sivang: python2.5 will be standard in edgy? | 03:17 |
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| DanielC | What do I do after uploading a package to Revu? Should I do anything to get someone to notice it? :) http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2592 | 03:21 |
| seaLne | DanielC: jump up and down that usually works | 03:21 |
| bddebian | DanielC: You can try to poke an MOTU reviewer but it will get noticed | 03:21 |
| DanielC | :) | 03:21 |
| bddebian | seaLne: ;-) | 03:21 |
| seaLne | i'm having a problem with dpatch: http://pastebin.ca/79504 | 03:22 |
| seaLne | ubuntu_01_debianisation.dpatch: script expects -patch|-unpatch as argument | 03:22 |
| DanielC | Laser_away was interested in the guides, so I'll ping him when he's not away. | 03:22 |
| bddebian | seaLne: What is dpatch call-all? | 03:24 |
| seaLne | no idea | 03:24 |
| seaLne | when i've used dpatch before it just worked | 03:24 |
| bddebian | Hmm, I've never seen that | 03:24 |
| bddebian | Not that, that means anything, I'm dumb ya know :-) | 03:24 |
| seaLne | on a different question when i ram dh_make it created a -doc package in debian/control aswell is that a new requirement? | 03:25 |
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| lukaswayne9 | I registered by pgp key with launchpad and joined the new contrib group last night, but my uploads are still getting rejected | 03:26 |
| TheMuso | seaLne: Was the package using dpatch originally? | 03:26 |
| seaLne | its a new package | 03:27 |
| TheMuso | Ah ok. | 03:27 |
| bddebian | seaLne: I don't believe that the -doc package is required but you might want to check policy on that | 03:27 |
| TheMuso | What made you decide to use dpatch? | 03:28 |
| seaLne | is there a reason not to? | 03:28 |
| seaLne | http://pastebin.ca/79508 is the .dpatch file | 03:29 |
| TheMuso | Not as far as I know. I just remember when I was putting a patch together for a new package, I was advised to include it in the .diff.gz, and not as a patch file itself. | 03:29 |
| TheMuso | But I guess it depends on the package. | 03:29 |
| seaLne | i recently had to break up the nasty "everything in the .diff.gz" of k3b so i could merge it, so i'm pretty against that :) | 03:30 |
| lukaswayne9 | Why is kopete in the revu? Isn't it already in main? | 03:30 |
| TheMuso | Others who have had more experience are in a better position to comment however. | 03:30 |
| seaLne | lukaswayne9: presumably the uploader wanted people to look at it | 03:32 |
| kelmo | TheMuso: i always use a patch management system for even minor changes to upstream source | 03:33 |
| TheMuso | Hmm right. | 03:33 |
| kelmo | TheMuso: but, that is personal preference only | 03:33 |
| TheMuso | I guess it depends on how big the changes are. | 03:33 |
| kelmo | i don't think policy demands it | 03:33 |
| TheMuso | Right. | 03:33 |
| lukaswayne9 | Is there a reference for the icons on the left side for the revu2? | 03:33 |
| TheMuso | kelmo: I just took crimsun's advice re patching. :) | 03:34 |
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| bddebian | tritium!! | 04:15 |
| bddebian | tritium: How have you been man? | 04:15 |
| tritium | hey bddebian :) | 04:15 |
| tritium | great, how about you, bddebian? | 04:15 |
| bddebian | OK thanks. Stupid as ever ;-) | 04:16 |
| tritium | No you're not. What are you up to? | 04:16 |
| bddebian | tritium: Merges and annoying Debian Developers. :-) You? | 04:17 |
| tritium | bddebian: working a lot, both at work, and around the house/yard | 04:18 |
| bddebian | Ah yes, the "joys" of home ownership ;-) | 04:18 |
| tritium | yep :) | 04:19 |
| lukaswayne9 | Is linda broken in edgy? | 04:30 |
| havoc | hmm, new bitlbee released | 04:37 |
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| Gloubiboulga | TheMuso, the short description for speech-dispatcher-flite is really what you want? | 05:02 |
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| Sp4rKy | hy | 06:51 |
| bddebian | Heya Sp4rKy | 06:51 |
| Sp4rKy | \sh_away, do you have a few minutes for pv ? | 06:51 |
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| Sp4rKy | please MOTU's , i and Lut1n would packaging e17 for Universe repositories | 06:55 |
| Sp4rKy | but all the CVS / tarball are already debiannized | 06:55 |
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| ogra | Sp4rKy, ask upstream to remove that | 06:55 |
| Sp4rKy | so does it exist another way ... | 06:56 |
| Sp4rKy | ogra, yes ... but the problem is they don't want remove that at all | 06:56 |
| ogra | then tell them we cant package it | 06:56 |
| Sp4rKy | isn't there another way ? | 06:57 |
| Sp4rKy | Gloubiboulga, said me \sh have packaged wine, whereas source tarball are already debianized | 06:57 |
| ogra | there is a non debianized source tarball as well | 06:58 |
| Sp4rKy | k | 06:58 |
| ogra | are you sure the *real* upstream tarballs (the ones used for suse and redhat etc) ahve a debian dir ? | 06:59 |
| Sp4rKy | yes | 06:59 |
| Sp4rKy | there is onluy the CVS (debianized) and tarball at freedesktop.org (debianized) | 07:00 |
| ogra | well you could repackage the upstream source, but thats considered to be very very dirty | 07:00 |
| Gloubiboulga | ajmitch, is it possible to update the edgy pbuilder on tiber? | 07:00 |
| Sp4rKy | so 'll not be accepted to REVU :// | 07:00 |
| Sp4rKy | and if we ask upstream to create another tarball which is not debianized ... | 07:01 |
| ogra | Sp4rKy, if you do it from CVS it shouldnt do any harm to remove the debian dir ... tag it as a cvs package in the version | 07:02 |
| Sp4rKy | k | 07:02 |
| ogra | i'm just looking at enlightenment.org ... its considered unstable still ... | 07:02 |
| Sp4rKy | yes | 07:03 |
| Sp4rKy | so i can use dpkg-buildpackaje -us -uc | 07:03 |
| Sp4rKy | and the package could be accepted at REVU ? | 07:03 |
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| ogra | i guess so ... | 07:06 |
| Sp4rKy | k | 07:10 |
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| bddebian | LaserJock! | 07:31 |
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| LaserJock | bddebian! | 07:32 |
| cypher1 | hi all | 07:32 |
| LaserJock | hi cypher1 | 07:32 |
| cypher1 | hi LaserJock | 07:32 |
| bddebian | Hello cypher1 | 07:33 |
| cypher1 | hi bddebian | 07:34 |
| cypher1 | today i am planning to continue my learning to packaging | 07:34 |
| cypher1 | :) | 07:34 |
| bddebian | Great :-) | 07:37 |
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| \sh | re | 08:17 |
| LaserJock | hi \sh | 08:19 |
| \sh | merging via umts ... ugh | 08:22 |
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| bddebian | wb \sh | 08:25 |
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| crimsun | we need an impromptu revu hour | 08:30 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 08:31 |
| \sh | after UVF? | 08:31 |
| \sh | we have too many merges left | 08:31 |
| LaserJock | maybe we should try to clean out some of the non-NEW REVU stuff | 08:32 |
| LaserJock | since that might have problems after UVF | 08:32 |
| \sh | do we get merges from not-now-motus on revu? | 08:32 |
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| crimsun | I think a couple people have been using revu for that | 08:33 |
| LaserJock | probably not merges, but bug fixes etc | 08:33 |
| LaserJock | the stuff with just a hammer and no light bulb on REVU | 08:33 |
| \sh | hmmm...do you think it would be a better idea to put package fixes as attachment to the bugreports in lp? | 08:34 |
| \sh | and to not use revu for those packages? | 08:34 |
| bddebian | Aye, but what about merges? | 08:34 |
| LaserJock | well, there is a lot of that before we had the motu-reviewers LP team | 08:34 |
| crimsun | we should just ask people to file LP bugs for merges and package fixes | 08:35 |
| LaserJock | and really started using Malone for workflow | 08:35 |
| bddebian | Think revu could add an icon for 'already in archive' or something? | 08:35 |
| AnAnt | if I have a new software that wasn't in Ubuntu nor Debian before, can I add it to REVU ? | 08:35 |
| \sh | public webspace to upload those merges, just like I do e.g.? | 08:35 |
| \sh | AnAnt: yes | 08:36 |
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| crimsun | bddebian: if it's already in the archive, arguably it should be filed on LP | 08:36 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: that's what the light bulb, or lack of, is for | 08:36 |
| crimsun | filed in^ | 08:36 |
| AnAnt | k | 08:37 |
| bddebian | Oh, hmm | 08:37 |
| bddebian | Well I started trying to 'review' but apparently I am not thorough enough. I see comments on there that I am like "wow, how the hell did you catch that.." etc :-) | 08:38 |
| LaserJock | same here | 08:39 |
| LaserJock | I think that it's good to have a 2 stage review that way | 08:39 |
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| LaserJock | let dopes like us do the initial review to catch the simple things, and then pass it along for the in-depth grilling ;-) | 08:39 |
| bddebian | Hehe, there ya go :-) | 08:40 |
| \sh | you can only learn from that ;) | 08:40 |
| bddebian | Oh no, "Mr. Sunshine" is back ;-P | 08:40 |
| jpatrick | I dislike sunshine | 08:41 |
| LaserJock | heh, you'd like my line of work then | 08:42 |
| bddebian | \sh: Don't you know us "old dogs" can't learn "new tricks"? ;-) | 08:42 |
| \sh | bddebian: I learn every day something new...you should too ;) | 08:44 |
| bddebian | I'm incapable ;-) | 08:45 |
| crimsun | I get plenty of sunshine from this lcd. | 08:46 |
| === Yagisan also learns something new each day. eg How much food can a 6 month old eat. I tell you it's amazing what they can pack away and still claim to be hungry. | ||
| crimsun | Yagisan: you were a wee lad once, too. | 08:46 |
| Yagisan | crimsun: I still *am* a wee lad | 08:46 |
| LaserJock | Yagisan: I'm more amazed at how much they can put out ;-) | 08:46 |
| crimsun | that's kinda scary | 08:47 |
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| Yagisan | crimsun: I'm only 24 | 08:47 |
| crimsun | younguns! | 08:47 |
| Yagisan | well, physically anyway | 08:47 |
| jpatrick | you are 9 years older than me | 08:47 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: hah! you aren't that old | 08:47 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: I'm younger than lamont, true. | 08:48 |
| Yagisan | LaserJock: oh yes. That is impressive | 08:48 |
| \sh | lol | 08:48 |
| zul | crimsun: everyone is younger than lamont :) | 08:48 |
| \sh | crimsun: this is not so difficult to be younger then lamont ;) | 08:48 |
| crimsun | hehe | 08:48 |
| bddebian | Hmm, I doubt that I am | 08:49 |
| crimsun | you've got to be in your late 40s, then | 08:49 |
| bddebian | Oh.. Hmm. I thought 37 was ancient around here? ;) | 08:49 |
| zul | it is | 08:49 |
| crimsun | fogey :p | 08:50 |
| bddebian | :'-( | 08:50 |
| \sh | bddebian: that's 2 years more then me ;) | 08:50 |
| LaserJock | bah, you guys are all ancient ;-) | 08:53 |
| LaserJock | actually, I was looking at Andreas' survey results and the average ages was somewhere around 29 I think | 08:54 |
| zul | wohoo...im above average | 08:55 |
| jpatrick | LaserJock: I guess me < * | 08:55 |
| LaserJock | yep | 08:55 |
| LaserJock | basically it looked like it was mostly 20s and 30s | 08:56 |
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| LaserJock | heh | 08:57 |
| jpatrick | Yagisan: you're half-way there | 08:58 |
| Yagisan | physically yeah - mentally I feel much older :( | 08:59 |
| crimsun | kids will do that to you | 09:00 |
| bddebian | Yagisan: Heh, mentally I feel like an 80 year old :-) | 09:01 |
| bddebian | crimsun: OK Mr. Impromptu revu. Gonna give us a tutorial? :-) | 09:02 |
| === bddebian is looking at kmplayer which already has shitloads of comments | ||
| crimsun | bddebian: when I finish the alsa-utils merge | 09:03 |
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| bddebian | crimsun: :-) | 09:04 |
| Yagisan | crimsun: I felt old before I had them. although I have seemed to age more now | 09:04 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: http://mentors.debian.net has some good review info under the "For Sponsors" part | 09:04 |
| LaserJock | btw, we should look at their newly redone site | 09:05 |
| === Yagisan drags bddebian and the other 80 year olds off to play lawn bowls. Last one still breathing after the match wins! | ||
| LaserJock | \o/ | 09:06 |
| LaserJock | ouch, that hurt ;-) | 09:06 |
| bddebian | Yagisan: Heh | 09:07 |
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| === Yagisan starts to wheeze. Must outlast bddebian. *cough* *cough* *splutter* | ||
| highvoltage | Yagisan: you will last | 09:09 |
| === bddebian has a cigarette... | ||
| highvoltage | bddebian fades in comparrison to you :) | 09:09 |
| LaserJock | I didn't think a diety could die ;-) | 09:10 |
| === Yagisan really should have gone to bed some 6 hours ago | ||
| LaserJock | no wonder you're feeling so old, you always go to bed when you should be getting up :-) | 09:12 |
| bddebian | Heh | 09:12 |
| Yagisan | LaserJock: don't worry. The kids will wake me up in 2-3 hours | 09:13 |
| Yagisan | sleep is for the weak! (Famous Last Words, before lapsing into a coma) | 09:13 |
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| bddebian | Yagisan: Amen brother :-) | 09:16 |
| LaserJock | I don't seem to do so well without sleep | 09:16 |
| LaserJock | I just get sick | 09:16 |
| Yagisan | I just get cranky and stop caring about should I stop and think before opening my big mouth. | 09:18 |
| Yagisan | I've had my foot in my mouth so often, that I'm used to the taste | 09:18 |
| Gloubiboulga | \sh, is it possible for any tiber user to update the edgy pbuilder or an admin has to do it? | 09:22 |
| Gloubiboulga | and hi :) | 09:22 |
| \sh | Gloubiboulga: if you have sudo rights, you can do it, if not, only admins | 09:23 |
| \sh | Gloubiboulga: you need an update? | 09:23 |
| Gloubiboulga | I don't have sudo rights, so I can't do it | 09:23 |
| Gloubiboulga | \sh, yep, to test goffice build | 09:24 |
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| Gloubiboulga | it takes ages to build on my box | 09:24 |
| \sh | Gloubiboulga: ok...one moment :) | 09:24 |
| Gloubiboulga | \sh, thanks :) | 09:24 |
| \sh | Gloubiboulga: done | 09:26 |
| Gloubiboulga | \sh, thanks again | 09:26 |
| \sh | Gloubiboulga: you're welcome | 09:27 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Light buld is supposed to mean it IS in the archive? | 09:29 |
| bddebian | Err s/buld/bulb/ | 09:30 |
| bddebian | Oh, lightbulb means NEW, never mind... | 09:30 |
| bddebian | How many advocates is a package supposed to have before upload? | 09:32 |
| crimsun | 2 | 09:32 |
| bddebian | And why are there so many comments and so few advocates? | 09:32 |
| crimsun | because Gloubiboulga and I haven't gotten around to tag-teaming | 09:32 |
| bddebian | Gah, I have got to fix my server box.. :-( | 09:34 |
| \sh | 0:1 Portugal vs France | 09:36 |
| zul | good...go allez france | 09:38 |
| crimsun | hah, many of my coworkers left early and don't plan to return today because of that game | 09:38 |
| \sh | zul: penalty goal ;) | 09:39 |
| zul | portugal should have never won | 09:40 |
| \sh | the plan was, that germany should lose the championships...and they did | 09:41 |
| \sh | did anyone tried cowdancer instead of pbuilder? | 09:44 |
| Yagisan | \sh thats a shame. I'd prefer germany over italy | 09:44 |
| zul | cowdancer? | 09:44 |
| Yagisan | \sh: not yet. I found pbuilder on tmpfs is fast enough for me | 09:44 |
| crimsun | man, if I could have pbuilder on tmpfs... | 09:45 |
| \sh | was it cowdancer, or do I mix names again? | 09:45 |
| Yagisan | crimsun: how much ram do you have ? | 09:45 |
| crimsun | Yagisan: 512 MB | 09:45 |
| Yagisan | ah | 09:45 |
| crimsun | I'm a bit wary of putting more RAM into a machine that I don't own, though | 09:45 |
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| crimsun | (this is a Canonical-sponsored ThinkPad) | 09:46 |
| === Yagisan physically can't add more | ||
| \sh | france wins | 09:46 |
| \sh | with 1:0 versus portugal...means germany has to play against portugal | 09:47 |
| Yagisan | and yes, sometimes I do get more then 50% swap used o_O | 09:47 |
| Gloubiboulga | I hope the french team will lose | 09:47 |
| Gloubiboulga | if not people will scream in the streets all night | 09:47 |
| Gloubiboulga | I want to sleep | 09:47 |
| Yagisan | Gloubiboulga: you want italy to dive again ? | 09:47 |
| Yagisan | ah. damm lag | 09:48 |
| Gloubiboulga | Yagisan, I don't care actually, I don't like football/soccer | 09:48 |
| Yagisan | Gloubiboulga: I just wanted to see a good match (and when the only other thing on is tv shopping, soccer looks real good) | 09:49 |
| Gloubiboulga | hehe | 09:49 |
| hub | Gloubiboulga: welcome to the club | 09:49 |
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| jpatrick | Gloubiboulga: I hope Portugal will lose | 09:59 |
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| Gloubiboulga | jpatrick, tss tss | 09:59 |
| jpatrick | Gloubiboulga: Rolando is a b******* | 10:00 |
| Gloubiboulga | I guess you're right, I've never heard of him ^^ | 10:00 |
| jpatrick | he's a Portugese strikers | 10:01 |
| \sh | oh it was the frist half .. france didn't win ;) | 10:02 |
| AstralJava | Never heard of Rolando either... :) But now the second half calls. | 10:03 |
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| hub | do I have to go throught REVU for a package update in universe? | 10:17 |
| LaserJock | to an existing Ubuntu package? | 10:18 |
| hub | yeah | 10:18 |
| hub | that even Debian hasn't updated | 10:19 |
| hub | (for Edgy off course) | 10:19 |
| LaserJock | no, you don't need REVU | 10:20 |
| LaserJock | if it's a bug fix, merge, or sync it is preferrable to use LP, IMO | 10:21 |
| hub | it is none of these | 10:21 |
| hub | or I haven't found them | 10:21 |
| LaserJock | what exactly do you want then? | 10:22 |
| bddebian | Sounds like packaging of a newer upstream version? | 10:22 |
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| Sp4rKy | does anyone could says me if audacious seems good (i've just uploaded it) | 10:26 |
| rob | how does one request a sync if a new package just entered debian unstable? | 10:30 |
| bddebian | rob: It will get synced automagically afaik | 10:30 |
| bddebian | Sp4rKy: I don't see todays upload yet | 10:30 |
| rob | ah, ok. how long does it take? | 10:30 |
| Sp4rKy | bddebian, k | 10:30 |
| bddebian | rob: That I don't know, sorry | 10:31 |
| rob | :) | 10:31 |
| \sh | rob: the ubuntu package is versioned with XubuntuY or is it just the plain debian package now? | 10:31 |
| rob | I would say just plain debian as it isn't in Ubuntu yet | 10:31 |
| \sh | rob: ask keybuk how it works nowadays | 10:31 |
| rob | ok :) | 10:31 |
| rob | ah, look at that, it is in edgy already | 10:36 |
| rob | but its still the debian version | 10:36 |
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| bddebian | rob: It will always be the Debian version unless an Ubuntu specific change is necessary. | 10:38 |
| rob | yep | 10:38 |
| rob | I'll mess around with it later | 10:39 |
| bddebian | crimsun: How long are we leaving these packages out on REVU without response from the uploader? Many of them seem to go back to January, etc | 10:39 |
| \sh | shit..even thinkpads are hot | 10:42 |
| crimsun | bddebian: I'm making a concerted effort to process them quickly today/tomorrow | 10:43 |
| crimsun | [but right now I have to finish this alsa-utils merge] | 10:43 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Is there anything I can do on REVU? | 10:43 |
| crimsun | absolutely, continue chugging through them | 10:43 |
| LaserJock | yes, review | 10:43 |
| bddebian | I'm trying but so far many of them need changed/re-uploaded, etc :-) | 10:44 |
| LaserJock | yep, kinda like those NeedsInfo bugs | 10:45 |
| bddebian | Yeah :-( | 10:49 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Oh, I got a new response from a DD. "What's a .desktop file?" :-) | 10:51 |
| \sh | bddebian: bug id? | 10:53 |
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| \sh | france wins | 10:53 |
| lionelp | :) | 10:53 |
| bddebian | \sh: He responded privately, not on the bug unfortunately :-) | 10:54 |
| \sh | that's sad | 10:54 |
| Gloubiboulga | yeah | 10:55 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: I'm afraid that is not going to be an uncommon response | 10:55 |
| bddebian | Well they are going to love all the bugs I've been submitting then :-) | 10:57 |
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| LaserJock | I hope so, we really need to raise Debian's .desktop awareness | 10:58 |
| DanielC | LaserJock: ping | 10:58 |
| LaserJock | DanielC: yeah, I saw it, I'm in a meeting at the moment | 10:59 |
| DanielC | LaserJock: You're a mind reader :) | 10:59 |
| LaserJock | DanielC: I saw a few changes that need to be done | 10:59 |
| fowlduck | hi | 10:59 |
| LaserJock | DanielC: I'll try to comment as soon as I can | 10:59 |
| DanielC | Thanks! | 10:59 |
| Gloubiboulga | hi fowlduck | 11:02 |
| bddebian | Ack, gotta go home. Later folks | 11:03 |
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| hub | wasn't there something about having all the packages in bzr? | 11:20 |
| LaserJock | hub: yep | 11:20 |
| LaserJock | and it was approved I believe | 11:21 |
| hub | ok so I have to do that before committing this update | 11:22 |
| LaserJock | no | 11:22 |
| LaserJock | I mean, I'm not really sure but it depends on the package. most packages aren't in bzr yet I don't think | 11:23 |
| hub | it is not yet | 11:23 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: pretty much any main package I touch is in bzr | 11:35 |
| LaserJock | Main I can believe, but Universe I doubt | 11:35 |
| crimsun | yeah, I've done a few universe ones | 11:36 |
| LaserJock | but I haven't really looked | 11:36 |
| crimsun | certainly not all the ones I've merged, though | 11:36 |
| LaserJock | I know of a few | 11:36 |
| hub | I didn't put the one I merged either | 11:40 |
| hub | the fun thing is that I do the merge on dapper | 11:42 |
| hub | check in pbuilder for edgy | 11:42 |
| hub | :-) | 11:42 |
| crimsun | that's precisely how I'm doing mine | 11:42 |
| hub | I don't wnat to fsck up my laptop for now | 11:43 |
| crimsun | I kinda need my system stable :-) | 11:43 |
| hub | after desktop con / OLS, maybe | 11:43 |
| crimsun | come late August I'll dist-upgrade | 11:43 |
| hub | I'll do it before possible | 11:43 |
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| hub | y | 11:43 |
| LaserJock | I might just chroot it for a while | 11:44 |
| LaserJock | I ran soley Dapper for a long time, but Edgy is so short | 11:44 |
| hub | I have been running dapper since December | 11:46 |
| hub | I install fligh2 on this laptop | 11:46 |
| hub | crap, I have pbuild that package | 11:47 |
| crimsun | hoo-rah, all my named main ones merged and bzr pushed. | 11:54 |
| LaserJock | \o/ | 11:55 |
| crimsun | ah crap, and just like that there's a newer Debian revision :-P | 11:56 |
| LaserJock | wha? | 11:56 |
| LaserJock | that sucks | 11:56 |
| crimsun | no biggie. I'm in cahoots with pkg-alsa-devel anyway :p | 11:57 |
| LaserJock | ohhh, cahoots ;-) | 11:58 |
| freeflying|away | crimsun: the maintainer of zhcon will upload the latest release today | 11:58 |
| crimsun | freeflying|away: hooray | 11:58 |
| LaserJock | TheMuso: the whole spec thing is a little confusing for me too | 12:05 |
| TheMuso | LaserJock: Its not just the specs, if how one works with them in launchpad sometimes., | 12:05 |
| LaserJock | yep | 12:06 |
| crimsun | there's no workflow doc? | 12:06 |
| fowlduck | hallo | 12:06 |
| LaserJock | well, all the stuff I've seen on LP is very general | 12:06 |
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