[12:10] heh. elmo doesn't sound too pleased. [12:20] which distro should i use when creating using pbuilder ? [12:20] i cannot find breezy there ! [12:20] all are debian line [12:21] erm? [12:21] for what purpose? === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@CPE-124-178-8-74.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:22] crimsun, for building a package [12:23] pbuilder create [--basetgz base.tgz-path] [--distribution potato|woody|sarge|etch|sid|experimental] [12:23] --removepackages [packages-to-remove on pbuilder create] [12:23] --extrapackages [packages-to-add on pbuilder create] [12:24] i am packagin from scratch [12:24] cp /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/examples/pbuilder-distribution.sh . && mv pbuilder-distribution.sh pbuilder-dapper && mkdir -p ~/pbuilder/result && ./pbuilder-dapper create [12:25] is your target release dapper or edgy? [12:25] i wanted to try for breezy [12:26] in the case i can use the cd from which the pbuilder will create [12:27] so in the above command sequence, replace dapper with breezy. [12:29] can i use cd to get the minimal environmenr [12:30] it'll take some finagling, but yes [12:32] crimsun, ok thanks.. === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:45] E: Failed getting release file http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/dists/breezy/Release [12:48] you're going to need to set MIRRORSITE to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu [12:49] oops, actually it is just MIRROR [12:49] ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/dists/breezy is invalid. [12:49] note that's a Debian URL [http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/] not a Ubuntu one. [12:50] LaserJock, crimsun thanks a lot.. was just realizing it while reading manual of debootstrap :) [12:51] i guess if MIRROR=file:///media/cdrom to work ;) [12:54] ok all.. need to sleep.. thanks for the help [12:54] good night [12:55] cya cypher1 [12:55] ugh help [12:56] tell me how to force dpkg to think xfonts-dosemu is not installed without uninstalling it [01:00] why not append ||true to whatever p{re,ost}{inst,rm} maintainer script lines as a hackaround? === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=duck@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:10] perhaps someone here will know what is used to automount drives in ubuntu and how I can disable the automountng [01:11] pmount and HAL + gnome-volume-manager [01:12] fowlduck: like hard drives or removable drives? [01:12] hub, cool, thanks [01:12] LaserJock, removable devices [01:12] System -> Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media [01:12] LaserJock, basically I want my hard drive to mount on boot, but everything else has to be manual [01:13] LaserJock, does that truly not automount it by unchecking those boxes? [01:14] yeah, that's the point I believe [01:14] hmm, ok [01:14] now, are those options accessible programatically? [01:15] I would assume so, but I don't know where exactly [01:15] fowlduck: other partitions? [01:16] hub, no, are the options to turn off automounting available to be changed programatically [01:16] gconf [01:16] that is where g-v-m store the things [01:16] ok [01:17] /desktop/gnome/volume_manager/ [01:17] use gconftool-2 to query/set [01:17] crimsun, perfect, thanks [01:21] can somebody review this http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2599 ? === pschulz01 [n=paul@eth6067.sa.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:36] good morning [01:37] g'morning [01:37] well, almost good evening where i am [01:40] hub: where's the orig.tar.gz? [01:44] crimsun: it didn't get uploaded? [01:44] crap [01:44] *sigh* [01:45] redoing an upload then === duro [n=duro@216.230.150.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:50] crimsun: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2600 [01:52] hub: those are some pretty strong versioned build-dependencies. Do you anticipate no requests for backporting to dapper-backports? === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.126.144.135] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:53] crimsun: it builds on dapper [01:53] hub: ok. [01:54] hub: the only other suggestion I have is that you change ".org" to "organisation" in debian/control:Description [01:55] ok [01:55] let me know the new url, and I'll advocate. === fbond|away is now known as fbond [01:56] ok [01:56] anyone care to look at some packages on revu: midisport-firmware, sclapp, autosmbmnt, magicpipe? [01:56] is it just me or is the calife package rather useless? [01:56] oh, and lash ... ? [01:56] lash has already been synced. [01:56] oh [01:56] where the heck did that come from [01:56] from Sid [01:56] I never saw an ITP [01:57] crud [01:57] ok, ditch that one then [01:57] fine memory you have there, BTW [01:57] [https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edgy-changes/2006-July/000964.html] === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:58] crimsun, there are packages on revu that I uploaded for Dapper, but eventually were brought in as part of the aptget.org spec [01:58] should those be junked, probably? [01:58] and can you do that, if so? [01:59] If they're in Dapper proper already, they can be archived. I'm not a REVU admin. [01:59] which one? [01:59] the packages are: fluidsynth-dssi, xsynth-dssi, hexter [02:00] I'll archive then [02:00] thanks! [02:00] np [02:00] crimsun: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2601 [02:01] the newer upload [02:01] time to go [02:01] c-ya [02:01] done. === abelcheung__ [n=abelcheu@221.126.152.148] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] crimsun, do you use the revu-tools package? [02:14] fowlduck: no, but it's a good idea. [02:15] crimsun, just wondering, so if I go to submit something I can save everyone some time [02:15] yes, it's a good idea. [02:15] ->out for the evening. [02:18] crimsun, night then === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:19] hi bmonty === FliesLikeALap [n=Ryan@ool-45796272.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:37] why not append ||true to whatever p{re,ost}{inst,rm} maintainer script lines as a hackaround? [02:37] crimsun: directions === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:27] Heya gang [03:27] hi bddebian [03:28] Heya LaserJock === fowlduck [n=fowlduck@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:37] hi all === Cornellius [n=Al@142-217-38-112.telebecinternet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Cornellius [n=Al@142-217-38-112.telebecinternet.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Quitte"] [04:23] Hi ya Hobbsee [04:23] hey Hawkwind === Hobbsee isnt here. [04:24] Heh, dare I ask where you actually are :P [04:24] Hawkwind: i'm driving to pick up a friend. [04:24] Hobbsee, on irc while driving? [04:24] Oh. Well have fun and be safe [04:25] Hobbsee, thats worse than a cellphone [04:25] fowlduck: no, buti should be driving, but i'm here [04:25] Hobbsee, ahh, ok, in that case you are banished hencforth until you pick up your friend, be gone~ [04:27] fowlduck: heh === Hobbsee leaves, then. [05:22] Female removed [05:22] Internet stabilized. [05:23] heh. "There are no girls on the internet" is quickly turning into "there are plenty of girls on the internet, and some of them aren't lesbians" [05:23] I swear the net is going through puberty or something. [05:28] bluefoxicy: :-) === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:19] Hello! I'm running edgy right now. I'd to compile some packages for dapper, how can I set something like that up? [06:20] set up a chroot? [06:20] Or a pbuilder, either one [06:20] Do you know of any nice guides on helping me with that? [06:21] what's the difference between chroot and pbuilder? [06:21] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto [06:21] thanks [06:22] NP === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:47] Gnight folks === lukkett1 [n=lukketto@host118-98.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukkett1 [n=lukketto@host118-98.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@221.221.147.22] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukkett1 [n=lukketto@host118-98.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [07:53] crimsun: ping got a few minutes to walk me though something ? [07:53] if its a bad time np [07:53] imbrandon: give me 2 mins, plesae [07:53] please^ [07:53] np [07:53] sure [07:58] imbrandon: what's up? [07:59] well i have a fresh dapper install on this lappy ( ppc ) with NO pbuilders setup yet , was wondering if you could step me through makin a edgy one ( i have done it in the past but never cleanly always had to mess with it for days to get it working ) [07:59] thought maybe you could help me with the right way (tm) [07:59] imbrandon: well, there are at least 2 ways on dapper [08:00] is there one you recomend ? [08:00] i ahve pbuilder and stuff installed etc just not configured at all [08:00] on this box [08:04] imbrandon: the easier way is probably: cp /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/examples/pbuilder-distribution.sh ~/pbuilder-dapper && mkdir -p ~/pbuilder/result && ~/pbuilder-dapper create --othermirror deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper restricted | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiverse [08:04] err, sorry [08:04] imbrandon: the easier way is probably: cp /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/examples/pbuilder-distribution.sh ~/pbuilder-dapper && mkdir -p ~/pbuilder/result && ~/pbuilder-dapper create --othermirror deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy restricted | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy multiverse [08:05] ok cool thanks a ton crimsun as i said i have done it in the past and got it working just never "the right way"(tm) from the start === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:05] ;) [08:07] crimsun: then after thats done i can just use it normaly like , pbuilder clean , pbuilder update , etc etc etc ? [08:07] imbrandon: there's no real need to use 'clean' regularly [08:07] ahh ok [08:07] do i rename it to ~/pbuilder-edgy also when done ? [08:08] if you're using dapper's debootstrap/pbuilder, no [08:08] kk [08:08] just have to know thats an edgy one [08:08] ok [08:08] well, you can also just dpkg -i edgy's debootstrap and pbuilder packages [08:09] hrm [08:09] then just cp /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/examples/pbuilder-distribution.sh ~/pbuilder-edgy && mkdir -p ~/pbuilder/result && ~/pbuilder-edgy create [08:09] that might be better i think, dont think it will cause problemns do you ? [08:09] it hasn't caused any problems on the debian-amd64 shell I'm using === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:11] coo; thanks [08:11] cool* [08:11] np === lloydinho [n=andreas@130.225.237.181] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === polpak [n=polpak@ip68-6-43-90.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@ppp230-76.lns3.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:27] <\sh> moins [09:28] moin moins === cypher [n=cypher@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher_ [n=cypher@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher [n=cypher@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B2831.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:58] good morning [09:59] hi dholbach [09:59] hey rob === cypher [n=cypher@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:02] morning dholbach, rob [10:03] hiya Gloubiboulga [10:03] heya Gloubiboulga [10:03] 'morning [10:18] Do we have a clear policy about UVF and NEW packages (after UVF) in universe for edgy? [10:19] yes [10:20] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule [10:20] -> UniverseFreeze [10:20] Hey guys. Could some MOTUs please have a look at my merges in revu? These are libibtk, and speech-dispatcher. I also have other packages, espeak, and lsr, which also need review. I particularly would like priority given to espeak and speech-dispatcher, as these will eventually be moved into main and seeded, so they need to be in ASAP. [10:21] thanks dholbach [10:21] July 13th is ... pretty imminent. [10:22] spoken like a true motu :) [10:22] :) [10:23] that's why I talked to mdz in Paris [10:23] I mean, I'm hurrying through merges as fast as humanly possible given work constraints, but ... [10:24] there's too much to do [10:24] revu, upstream versions, merges, etc === cain_ [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:29] can we directly upload new release packages (packages already in ubuntu but not in debian)? I think I've never had to do this before [10:29] 0ubuntu1s? sure. [10:30] ok, thanks crimsun [10:30] np === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:31] freeflying|away: please feel free to upload zhcon-0.2.6; I'll be pretty busy this week [10:32] crimsun: me too, heh [10:33] ah, ok === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-100-163.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:44] TheMuso, added on my TODO list, wil have a look at your packages (if nobody's already started) [10:44] s/wil/will [10:45] Gloubiboulga: Thanks a lot. [10:45] Those priority packages are spec related, much appreciated. === paniq [n=braniq@213.83.35.136] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:49] I'll do espeak now. === AnAnt [n=anant@81.10.9.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:50] crimsun: Gloubiboulga looked at espeak previously, noting a few things, which I have fixed up. === AnAnt [n=anant@81.10.9.182] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [10:54] TheMuso: suggestion: in debian/control:Description, use "text to speech system (TTS)" first. I wasn't familiar with the acronym. [10:55] oh ok [10:55] (2nd para) [10:55] That was a copy and paste. :) [10:58] looks solid [10:58] Ok, if there is nothing else, I'll put this slightly revised one up. :) [10:58] ok, let me know the URL, please [10:58] on revu I mean. [10:58] (right) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:59] Hey Hobbsee. [10:59] hi TheMuso [10:59] TheMuso: where in particular are you? [11:00] Hobbsee: At home atm. [11:00] TheMuso: fair enough [11:00] heh === cypher1 [n=cypher@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:01] "in #ubuntu-motu" === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:01] crimsun: Ok its up. === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee blames ajmitch [11:03] Hobbsee: Were you wondering anything more specific? [11:03] looks good. [11:03] TheMuso: yeah, i was [11:03] crimsun: Ok thanks a lot. [11:03] TheMuso: np [11:04] hi [11:04] Hey ajmitch. [11:04] hi stranger named ajmitch [11:05] :P [11:05] wow, a real live StevenK upload :p. Two! [11:06] crimsun: yeah, it happens occasionally, when he's poked into working. [11:06] oh, Three. [11:06] crimsun: really? amazing [11:07] Hobbsee: he must be jumping often === cypher1 [n=cypher@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:07] crimsun: heh [11:07] Hobbsee: Are you still a MOTU hopeful, or are you a MOTU for real? [11:08] (she's getting the bofh down, that's for sure) [11:08] hah [11:08] TheMuso: i'm not a MOTU. [11:08] heh === Hobbsee might never apply for it. [11:08] Hobbsee: Right. [11:08] you never know === TheMuso will once he doesn't have to do several successive uploads to revu to get a package right. [11:10] TheMuso, espeak uploaded [11:10] Gloubiboulga: Thanks heaps. [11:10] :) [11:11] TheMuso, np :) === ajmitch should try & do MOTU stuff sometime [11:11] before I get poked into uploading as well [11:11] hehe === Hobbsee will poke you for uploads, dont worry. [11:12] wonderful [11:13] in fact... [11:13] heh [11:13] hmm, that's ... odd. [11:14] click on speech-dispatcher and get "directory (/var/revu/revu1-incoming/speech-dispatcher-0606292345/) of upload (2554) not found" [11:14] Got the same thing. [11:15] i'm having problems trying to package a new program in its Makefile.defs it specifies "-I/usr/local/ssl/include -I/usr/sfw/include" which don't exist if i change the ssl one to be /usr/include/openssl/ it dosen't compile, any ideas? === cypher1 [n=cypher@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:17] I take it said package doesn't use autotools? [11:17] no [11:17] it has these defined: [11:17] INCDIRS = -I/usr/local/ssl/include -I/usr/sfw/include -I. -Ilib [11:17] LIBDIRS = -L/usr/local/ssl/lib -I/usr/sfw/lib -L. [11:18] i already changed the normal stuff in the Makefile but this has me confused [11:18] Makefiles suck for this reason. :) [11:18] IMO === MadMan2k [n=pavel@C9236.c.pppool.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:19] I wonder why it says -I/usr/sfw/lib instead of -L/usr/sfw/lib [11:19] What is sfw anyway? [11:19] no idea [11:19] that was my next question [11:19] :) [11:20] that should be documented in the source's README/INSTALL/foo === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:21] its not [11:21] how courteous [11:22] Gloubiboulga: Thanks for the mail. [11:23] I've got some general questions regarding packaging: [11:23] if I add lets say -march=athlon-xp to debian/rules, the package still has the suffix _i386. is this correct? [11:23] seaLne: how does it use SSL in the preprocessor statements? (Paste an example #include) [11:23] MadMan2k: yes, but that's Very Bad Practice. [11:24] MadMan2k: AFAIK yes. [11:24] yeah, but if you do add -march=athlon-xp, MadMan2k, it won't be acceptable for ubuntu [11:24] bah. too slow [11:24] thx, just wanted to know this for my personal use :) [11:24] crimsun: weird now if i correct the ssl bits it still builds [11:25] seaLne: as it should. [11:25] yeah which was why i was confused before :) [11:26] next one: is it safe to generally use CDBS? [11:26] /usr/sfw seems to be a place to symlink stuff in solaris? [11:27] crimsun: Don't make me kick you. :-P [11:28] hello StevenK [11:28] StevenK :p [11:29] hi StevenK === StevenK waves, and jumps on Hobbsee. === Hobbsee is splattered on the ground again. [11:29] more squashed Hobbsee to clean off the channel again [11:30] hehe, yeah, go ahead and try === Hobbsee will just stay here to haunt you. [11:30] and to throw furry eyeballs at people. [11:30] Just me, or the entire channel? [11:31] StevenK: entire channel, of course === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548ADAF9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:33] o_O I had to read that twice Hobbsee. missed the eye first time. [11:33] Yagisan: what, you expected me to throw furry people around??? [11:34] Maybe he meant 'furry balls' === Yagisan changes his meds === ajmitch blinks [11:35] ok.. === StevenK curses screen for preserving the environment it was started in, not one it's been connected to from. [11:36] rather annoying at times, isn't i? [11:36] Indeed. [11:37] If I run gnuclient by accident, it starts the X client on :0.0 === Hobbsee smacks StevenK [11:41] Ow! [11:42] what a surprise [11:45] oh the violence. [11:45] hehe [11:45] You should see the bruise she left. :-P === Hobbsee is violent, yes. [11:45] hehe === StevenK ponders eating dinner. === Hobbsee steals StevenK's dinner, so he cant eat it [11:46] Whatever. It's only my mothers spagetti bols. [11:46] From Liar Liar, "I've had better." [11:49] for those of you not totally uninterested /usr/sfw is where SunFreeWare.org stuff is installed on solaris [11:50] Hah. I was about mutter 'FHS', and then I read 'on Solaris'. [11:50] could be tasty === tiagoboldt [n=tiagobol@87-196-82-201.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dsas [n=dean@host86-143-88-146.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:09] seaLne: Interesting. [12:21] quick question: how can I alter the prefix to /usr/local7 using cdbs? [12:21] * /usr/local/ [12:22] THere is a cdbs variable that can be set to specify alternate configure flags. Not sure if it is possible to override the prefix that way. A cdbs guru will have a better idea about that. [12:28] thanks, I'll try: DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mukund [n=mukund@62.3.217.116] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:55] \sh, you around? [12:55] <\sh> Seveas: somehow :) [12:56] \sh, you run your own jabber service, right? [12:56] <\sh> Seveas: yepp [12:56] which daemon? [12:56] <\sh> ejabberd [12:56] (and if you have time to answer: why that one) [12:57] does ejabberd have an msn transport? [12:57] <\sh> because it's more stable then jabberd2..I used first jabberd2 in the beginning, and the core modules (s2s, c2s etc.) had problems with utf8 xml characters etc. [12:58] <\sh> Seveas: all transports are external...so you can plug them in easily. for msn you should use PyMSN-t [12:58] thanks! [12:58] <\sh> Seveas: but ejabberd integrates MUC, PubSub, and an rudmentary irc transport [12:58] actually, we are working on a server side "transport" for jabber for freenode :) [12:59] \sh, is the hoary version any good or would you recommend a backport of the dapper version? [12:59] rob, sounds nice [12:59] <\sh> Seveas: I'm using a selfbuild 1.0.0 version of ejabberd... [12:59] <\sh> Seveas: on hoary that is [01:00] thanks again, wont bother you with more questions [01:00] <\sh> Seveas: I'm happy to help := === kelmo [n=kelmo@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:31] still trying to cahnge --prefix using cdbs - anyone an idea? === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:35] MadMan2k: COMMON_CONFIGURE_FLAGS or DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS as per /usr/share/doc/cdbs/cdbs-doc.pdf.gz [01:36] tried both but it still sets --prefix=/usr [01:37] but in case of DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS Im getting my prefix appended at the end [01:38] MadMan2k: in my wide-dhcpv6 package I use DEB_MAKE_INSTALL_TARGET += prefix=$(DEB_DESTDIR)/usr [01:39] kinda ugly but at least it works... [01:39] or, forget the autotools cdbs class and configure by a hand written command . . . [01:40] and then forget about cdbs and even debhelper and do it all by hand :) === Toadstool hides [01:40] well, you can go to that extreme too ;-) [01:41] MadMan2k: do you first include stuff and then use deb_configure_extra_flags? [01:41] yep [01:41] set the var first [01:45] how about modifying the universe irc clients to connect to #ubuntu/irc.freenode.net by default, rather than #debian/irc.debian.org by default? [01:45] apparently, at least some of them do so [01:48] kelmo: just did so and it doesnt recognize any options at all [01:49] MadMan2k: then my menory fails me, sorry [01:49] memory* [01:50] when you include the file it defines the var and overrides any previous definitions, doesn't it? === AnAnt [n=anant@81.10.9.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@81.10.9.182] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:07] ok the solution is: DEB_CONFIGURE_PREFIX [02:07] I hate this undocumented shit [02:07] why do you use it then? :) [02:07] thats what you get for using CDBS [02:08] its easier to look it up in the source then write the source myself :D === DanielC [n=daniel@82.151.249.90.adsl.griffin.net.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@221.221.163.91] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gazer [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jojopaderes [n=jojo@203.177.173.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:42] Heya gang [02:42] hey bddebian [02:42] Heya Toadstool === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:17] <\sh> sivang: ping [03:17] <\sh> sivang: python2.5 will be standard in edgy? === damned [n=vpol@prior.lanck.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:21] What do I do after uploading a package to Revu? Should I do anything to get someone to notice it? :) http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2592 [03:21] DanielC: jump up and down that usually works [03:21] DanielC: You can try to poke an MOTU reviewer but it will get noticed [03:21] :) [03:21] seaLne: ;-) [03:22] i'm having a problem with dpatch: http://pastebin.ca/79504 [03:22] ubuntu_01_debianisation.dpatch: script expects -patch|-unpatch as argument [03:22] Laser_away was interested in the guides, so I'll ping him when he's not away. [03:24] seaLne: What is dpatch call-all? [03:24] no idea [03:24] when i've used dpatch before it just worked [03:24] Hmm, I've never seen that [03:24] Not that, that means anything, I'm dumb ya know :-) [03:25] on a different question when i ram dh_make it created a -doc package in debian/control aswell is that a new requirement? === pschulz01 [n=paul@150.101.6.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:26] I registered by pgp key with launchpad and joined the new contrib group last night, but my uploads are still getting rejected [03:26] seaLne: Was the package using dpatch originally? [03:27] its a new package [03:27] Ah ok. [03:27] seaLne: I don't believe that the -doc package is required but you might want to check policy on that [03:28] What made you decide to use dpatch? [03:28] is there a reason not to? [03:29] http://pastebin.ca/79508 is the .dpatch file [03:29] Not as far as I know. I just remember when I was putting a patch together for a new package, I was advised to include it in the .diff.gz, and not as a patch file itself. [03:29] But I guess it depends on the package. [03:30] i recently had to break up the nasty "everything in the .diff.gz" of k3b so i could merge it, so i'm pretty against that :) [03:30] Why is kopete in the revu? Isn't it already in main? [03:30] Others who have had more experience are in a better position to comment however. [03:32] lukaswayne9: presumably the uploader wanted people to look at it [03:33] TheMuso: i always use a patch management system for even minor changes to upstream source [03:33] Hmm right. [03:33] TheMuso: but, that is personal preference only [03:33] I guess it depends on how big the changes are. [03:33] i don't think policy demands it [03:33] Right. [03:33] Is there a reference for the icons on the left side for the revu2? [03:34] kelmo: I just took crimsun's advice re patching. :) === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@CPE-124-178-8-74.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@167.246.8.60] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@124.217.12.33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:15] tritium!! [04:15] tritium: How have you been man? [04:15] hey bddebian :) [04:15] great, how about you, bddebian? [04:16] OK thanks. Stupid as ever ;-) [04:16] No you're not. What are you up to? [04:17] tritium: Merges and annoying Debian Developers. :-) You? [04:18] bddebian: working a lot, both at work, and around the house/yard [04:18] Ah yes, the "joys" of home ownership ;-) [04:19] yep :) [04:30] Is linda broken in edgy? 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[06:56] ogra, yes ... but the problem is they don't want remove that at all [06:56] then tell them we cant package it [06:57] isn't there another way ? [06:57] Gloubiboulga, said me \sh have packaged wine, whereas source tarball are already debianized [06:58] there is a non debianized source tarball as well [06:58] k [06:59] are you sure the *real* upstream tarballs (the ones used for suse and redhat etc) ahve a debian dir ? [06:59] yes [07:00] there is onluy the CVS (debianized) and tarball at freedesktop.org (debianized) [07:00] well you could repackage the upstream source, but thats considered to be very very dirty [07:00] ajmitch, is it possible to update the edgy pbuilder on tiber? [07:00] so 'll not be accepted to REVU :// [07:01] and if we ask upstream to create another tarball which is not debianized ... [07:02] Sp4rKy, if you do it from CVS it shouldnt do any harm to remove the debian dir ... tag it as a cvs package in the version [07:02] k [07:02] i'm just looking at enlightenment.org ... its considered unstable still ... [07:03] yes [07:03] so i can use dpkg-buildpackaje -us -uc [07:03] and the package could be accepted at REVU ? === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-242-208.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:06] i guess so ... [07:10] k === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === truz_`24 [n=truz_`24@74.129.166.232] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [07:31] LaserJock! === cypher1 [n=cypher@59.92.159.155] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:32] bddebian! [07:32] hi all [07:32] hi cypher1 [07:32] hi LaserJock [07:33] Hello cypher1 [07:34] hi bddebian [07:34] today i am planning to continue my learning to packaging [07:34] :) [07:37] Great :-) === lukkett1 [n=lukketto@host118-98.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === redguy [n=mati@11-mia-6.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nexu|ET [n=nexu@a80-126-56-145.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TomaszD [n=tom@xdsl-2196.elblag.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:17] <\sh> re [08:19] hi \sh [08:22] <\sh> merging via umts ... ugh === _ZuZuu_ [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-58-174.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:25] wb \sh === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.225.223] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:30] we need an impromptu revu hour [08:31] yeah [08:31] <\sh> after UVF? [08:31] <\sh> we have too many merges left [08:32] maybe we should try to clean out some of the non-NEW REVU stuff [08:32] since that might have problems after UVF [08:32] <\sh> do we get merges from not-now-motus on revu? === TomaszD [n=tom@xdsl-2196.elblag.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:33] I think a couple people have been using revu for that [08:33] probably not merges, but bug fixes etc [08:33] the stuff with just a hammer and no light bulb on REVU [08:34] <\sh> hmmm...do you think it would be a better idea to put package fixes as attachment to the bugreports in lp? [08:34] <\sh> and to not use revu for those packages? [08:34] Aye, but what about merges? [08:34] well, there is a lot of that before we had the motu-reviewers LP team [08:35] we should just ask people to file LP bugs for merges and package fixes [08:35] and really started using Malone for workflow [08:35] Think revu could add an icon for 'already in archive' or something? [08:35] if I have a new software that wasn't in Ubuntu nor Debian before, can I add it to REVU ? [08:35] <\sh> public webspace to upload those merges, just like I do e.g.? [08:36] <\sh> AnAnt: yes === paniq [n=braniq@port-212-202-51-166.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:36] bddebian: if it's already in the archive, arguably it should be filed on LP [08:36] bddebian: that's what the light bulb, or lack of, is for [08:36] filed in^ [08:37] k [08:37] Oh, hmm [08:38] Well I started trying to 'review' but apparently I am not thorough enough. I see comments on there that I am like "wow, how the hell did you catch that.." etc :-) [08:39] same here [08:39] I think that it's good to have a 2 stage review that way === fredix [n=fredix@86.67.45.66] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:39] let dopes like us do the initial review to catch the simple things, and then pass it along for the in-depth grilling ;-) [08:40] Hehe, there ya go :-) [08:40] <\sh> you can only learn from that ;) [08:40] Oh no, "Mr. Sunshine" is back ;-P [08:41] I dislike sunshine [08:42] heh, you'd like my line of work then [08:42] \sh: Don't you know us "old dogs" can't learn "new tricks"? ;-) [08:44] <\sh> bddebian: I learn every day something new...you should too ;) [08:45] I'm incapable ;-) [08:46] I get plenty of sunshine from this lcd. === Yagisan also learns something new each day. eg How much food can a 6 month old eat. I tell you it's amazing what they can pack away and still claim to be hungry. [08:46] Yagisan: you were a wee lad once, too. [08:46] crimsun: I still *am* a wee lad [08:46] Yagisan: I'm more amazed at how much they can put out ;-) [08:47] that's kinda scary === CarlFK [n=carl@c-67-163-39-124.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:47] crimsun: I'm only 24 [08:47] younguns! [08:47] well, physically anyway [08:47] you are 9 years older than me [08:47] crimsun: hah! you aren't that old [08:48] LaserJock: I'm younger than lamont, true. [08:48] LaserJock: oh yes. That is impressive [08:48] <\sh> lol [08:48] crimsun: everyone is younger than lamont :) [08:48] <\sh> crimsun: this is not so difficult to be younger then lamont ;) [08:48] hehe [08:49] Hmm, I doubt that I am [08:49] you've got to be in your late 40s, then [08:49] Oh.. Hmm. I thought 37 was ancient around here? ;) [08:49] it is [08:50] fogey :p [08:50] :'-( [08:50] <\sh> bddebian: that's 2 years more then me ;) [08:53] bah, you guys are all ancient ;-) [08:54] actually, I was looking at Andreas' survey results and the average ages was somewhere around 29 I think [08:55] wohoo...im above average [08:55] LaserJock: I guess me < * [08:55] yep [08:56] basically it looked like it was mostly 20s and 30s === Yagisan petitions for more 10 year old devs to bring the average age down [08:57] heh [08:58] Yagisan: you're half-way there [08:59] physically yeah - mentally I feel much older :( [09:00] kids will do that to you [09:01] Yagisan: Heh, mentally I feel like an 80 year old :-) [09:02] crimsun: OK Mr. Impromptu revu. Gonna give us a tutorial? :-) === bddebian is looking at kmplayer which already has shitloads of comments [09:03] bddebian: when I finish the alsa-utils merge === TomaszD [n=tom@xdsl-2196.elblag.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:04] crimsun: :-) [09:04] crimsun: I felt old before I had them. although I have seemed to age more now [09:04] bddebian: http://mentors.debian.net has some good review info under the "For Sponsors" part [09:05] btw, we should look at their newly redone site === Yagisan drags bddebian and the other 80 year olds off to play lawn bowls. Last one still breathing after the match wins! [09:06] \o/ [09:06] ouch, that hurt ;-) [09:07] Yagisan: Heh === nexu|ET is now known as nexu === Yagisan starts to wheeze. Must outlast bddebian. *cough* *cough* *splutter* [09:09] Yagisan: you will last === bddebian has a cigarette... [09:09] bddebian fades in comparrison to you :) [09:10] I didn't think a diety could die ;-) === Yagisan really should have gone to bed some 6 hours ago [09:12] no wonder you're feeling so old, you always go to bed when you should be getting up :-) [09:12] Heh [09:13] LaserJock: don't worry. The kids will wake me up in 2-3 hours [09:13] sleep is for the weak! (Famous Last Words, before lapsing into a coma) === lukkett1 [n=lukketto@host118-98.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [09:16] Yagisan: Amen brother :-) [09:16] I don't seem to do so well without sleep [09:16] I just get sick [09:18] I just get cranky and stop caring about should I stop and think before opening my big mouth. [09:18] I've had my foot in my mouth so often, that I'm used to the taste [09:22] \sh, is it possible for any tiber user to update the edgy pbuilder or an admin has to do it? [09:22] and hi :) [09:23] <\sh> Gloubiboulga: if you have sudo rights, you can do it, if not, only admins [09:23] <\sh> Gloubiboulga: you need an update? [09:23] I don't have sudo rights, so I can't do it [09:24] \sh, yep, to test goffice build === nexu is now known as RemoveTrackitem [09:24] it takes ages to build on my box [09:24] <\sh> Gloubiboulga: ok...one moment :) [09:24] \sh, thanks :) [09:26] <\sh> Gloubiboulga: done [09:26] \sh, thanks again [09:27] <\sh> Gloubiboulga: you're welcome [09:29] LaserJock: Light buld is supposed to mean it IS in the archive? [09:30] Err s/buld/bulb/ [09:30] Oh, lightbulb means NEW, never mind... [09:32] How many advocates is a package supposed to have before upload? [09:32] 2 [09:32] And why are there so many comments and so few advocates? [09:32] because Gloubiboulga and I haven't gotten around to tag-teaming [09:34] Gah, I have got to fix my server box.. :-( [09:36] <\sh> 0:1 Portugal vs France [09:38] good...go allez france [09:38] hah, many of my coworkers left early and don't plan to return today because of that game [09:39] <\sh> zul: penalty goal ;) [09:40] portugal should have never won [09:41] <\sh> the plan was, that germany should lose the championships...and they did [09:44] <\sh> did anyone tried cowdancer instead of pbuilder? [09:44] \sh thats a shame. I'd prefer germany over italy [09:44] cowdancer? [09:44] \sh: not yet. I found pbuilder on tmpfs is fast enough for me [09:45] man, if I could have pbuilder on tmpfs... [09:45] <\sh> was it cowdancer, or do I mix names again? [09:45] crimsun: how much ram do you have ? [09:45] Yagisan: 512 MB [09:45] ah [09:45] I'm a bit wary of putting more RAM into a machine that I don't own, though === Yagisan saved for about a year to buy 1.5GB (+ 12GB swap) [09:46] (this is a Canonical-sponsored ThinkPad) === Yagisan physically can't add more [09:46] <\sh> france wins [09:47] <\sh> with 1:0 versus portugal...means germany has to play against portugal [09:47] and yes, sometimes I do get more then 50% swap used o_O [09:47] I hope the french team will lose [09:47] if not people will scream in the streets all night [09:47] I want to sleep [09:47] Gloubiboulga: you want italy to dive again ? [09:48] ah. damm lag [09:48] Yagisan, I don't care actually, I don't like football/soccer [09:49] Gloubiboulga: I just wanted to see a good match (and when the only other thing on is tv shopping, soccer looks real good) [09:49] hehe [09:49] Gloubiboulga: welcome to the club === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-062-241-239-231.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:59] Gloubiboulga: I hope Portugal will lose === highvoltage [n=jono@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [09:59] jpatrick, tss tss [10:00] Gloubiboulga: Rolando is a b******* [10:00] I guess you're right, I've never heard of him ^^ [10:01] he's a Portugese strikers [10:02] <\sh> oh it was the frist half .. france didn't win ;) [10:03] Never heard of Rolando either... :) But now the second half calls. === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-228-138.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:17] do I have to go throught REVU for a package update in universe? [10:18] to an existing Ubuntu package? [10:18] yeah [10:19] that even Debian hasn't updated [10:19] (for Edgy off course) [10:20] no, you don't need REVU [10:21] if it's a bug fix, merge, or sync it is preferrable to use LP, IMO [10:21] it is none of these [10:21] or I haven't found them [10:22] what exactly do you want then? [10:22] Sounds like packaging of a newer upstream version? === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-242-161.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:26] does anyone could says me if audacious seems good (i've just uploaded it) [10:30] how does one request a sync if a new package just entered debian unstable? [10:30] rob: It will get synced automagically afaik [10:30] Sp4rKy: I don't see todays upload yet [10:30] ah, ok. how long does it take? [10:30] bddebian, k [10:31] rob: That I don't know, sorry [10:31] :) [10:31] <\sh> rob: the ubuntu package is versioned with XubuntuY or is it just the plain debian package now? [10:31] I would say just plain debian as it isn't in Ubuntu yet [10:31] <\sh> rob: ask keybuk how it works nowadays [10:31] ok :) [10:36] ah, look at that, it is in edgy already [10:36] but its still the debian version === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:38] rob: It will always be the Debian version unless an Ubuntu specific change is necessary. [10:38] yep [10:39] I'll mess around with it later [10:39] crimsun: How long are we leaving these packages out on REVU without response from the uploader? Many of them seem to go back to January, etc [10:42] <\sh> shit..even thinkpads are hot [10:43] bddebian: I'm making a concerted effort to process them quickly today/tomorrow [10:43] [but right now I have to finish this alsa-utils merge] [10:43] crimsun: Is there anything I can do on REVU? [10:43] absolutely, continue chugging through them [10:43] yes, review [10:44] I'm trying but so far many of them need changed/re-uploaded, etc :-) [10:45] yep, kinda like those NeedsInfo bugs [10:49] Yeah :-( [10:51] LaserJock: Oh, I got a new response from a DD. "What's a .desktop file?" :-) [10:53] <\sh> bddebian: bug id? === Yagisan [n=jamie@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:53] <\sh> france wins [10:53] :) [10:54] \sh: He responded privately, not on the bug unfortunately :-) [10:54] <\sh> that's sad [10:55] yeah [10:55] bddebian: I'm afraid that is not going to be an uncommon response [10:57] Well they are going to love all the bugs I've been submitting then :-) === fowlduck [n=fowlduck@198.150.12.32] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:58] I hope so, we really need to raise Debian's .desktop awareness [10:58] LaserJock: ping [10:59] DanielC: yeah, I saw it, I'm in a meeting at the moment [10:59] LaserJock: You're a mind reader :) [10:59] DanielC: I saw a few changes that need to be done [10:59] hi [10:59] DanielC: I'll try to comment as soon as I can [10:59] Thanks! [11:02] hi fowlduck [11:03] Ack, gotta go home. Later folks === duro [n=duro@216.230.150.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:20] wasn't there something about having all the packages in bzr? [11:20] hub: yep [11:21] and it was approved I believe [11:22] ok so I have to do that before committing this update [11:22] no [11:23] I mean, I'm not really sure but it depends on the package. most packages aren't in bzr yet I don't think [11:23] it is not yet [11:35] LaserJock: pretty much any main package I touch is in bzr [11:35] Main I can believe, but Universe I doubt [11:36] yeah, I've done a few universe ones [11:36] but I haven't really looked [11:36] certainly not all the ones I've merged, though [11:36] I know of a few [11:40] I didn't put the one I merged either [11:42] the fun thing is that I do the merge on dapper [11:42] check in pbuilder for edgy [11:42] :-) [11:42] that's precisely how I'm doing mine [11:43] I don't wnat to fsck up my laptop for now [11:43] I kinda need my system stable :-) [11:43] after desktop con / OLS, maybe [11:43] come late August I'll dist-upgrade [11:43] I'll do it before possible === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:43] y [11:44] I might just chroot it for a while [11:44] I ran soley Dapper for a long time, but Edgy is so short [11:46] I have been running dapper since December [11:46] I install fligh2 on this laptop [11:47] crap, I have pbuild that package [11:54] hoo-rah, all my named main ones merged and bzr pushed. [11:55] \o/ [11:56] ah crap, and just like that there's a newer Debian revision :-P [11:56] wha? [11:56] that sucks [11:57] no biggie. I'm in cahoots with pkg-alsa-devel anyway :p [11:58] ohhh, cahoots ;-) [11:58] crimsun: the maintainer of zhcon will upload the latest release today [11:58] freeflying|away: hooray [12:05] TheMuso: the whole spec thing is a little confusing for me too [12:05] LaserJock: Its not just the specs, if how one works with them in launchpad sometimes., [12:06] yep [12:06] there's no workflow doc? [12:06] hallo [12:06] well, all the stuff I've seen on LP is very general