[12:01] <grubchub> tyvm knome
[12:01] <Knome> np
[12:01] <useff> I have a really odd problem with alsa
[12:01] <Petecakes> wastrel: Thanks, printing it off now :)
[12:01] <wastrel> fyi the link light is the little light on the back of the computer where you plug the ethernet cable in :] 
[12:02] <crashzor> amarokker,  gnome-session ?
[12:02] <ubuntu_Iz> useff: what kind of alsa problems?
[12:03] <Chetic> How do I change what sound device is default?
[12:05] <useff> Okay ubuntu_Iz, so I enabled IEC958 output on my cs46xx, and then alsa output just stopped
[12:05] <Saais> I have a question about gateways. How I have my default gateway setup to be eth0 which is directly connected, but I am also connected to a router via wireless. I was wondering how would I connect to a machine my on 192.168.2.* range without switching the gateway from eth0.
[12:05] <useff> Even after I disabled the output, I can only get sound through OSS on this user
[12:06] <wastrel> Saais:  if there is a network interface on the 192.168.2 network, traffic should go there, rather than the gateway
[12:06] <useff> Curiously enough, when I log in on a new user I just made, I get alsa output just fine
[12:06] <ubuntu_Iz> thats extremely weird
[12:06] <SonicChao> I installed the package 'xubuntu-desktop' to try XFCE, but now I get a Xubuntu splash instead of a Ubuntu Splah! Why is this so? And how can I change it back?
[12:07] <Saais> wastrel, I tried going to the router's IP address in my browser (192.168.2.1) and it just sat there loading for quite some time and still nothing happened.
[12:07] <wastrel> Saais:  can you ping the router?
[12:07] <Saais> One moment
[12:07] <Saais> wastrel, there is no responses
[12:07] <Saais> --- 192.168.2.1 ping statistics ---
[12:07] <Saais> 11 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 10010ms
[12:07] <crashzor> Saais, did it work before ?
[12:08] <Saais> crashzor, no, im just testing it today
[12:08] <Carmen-> after i updated my kernel the command: modprobe ndiswrapper   isnt working anymore
[12:08] <Carmen-> how do i fix it?
[12:08] <useff> any ideas?
[12:08] <Carmen-> yea any ideas?
[12:09] <wastrel> Saais:  and iwconfig shows you're connected to the proper wireless network?
[12:09] <crashzor> Saais, just was thinking about wather trobel ( its realy hot in holland right now and my router hates it ;) ) so dat woud be fixt by a router restart ;)
[12:09] <Knome> SonicChao: have you tried 'apt-get --purge remove xubuntu-desktop' ?
[12:09] <SonicChao> Knome: Not yet, I'll try that and tell you what happens
[12:09] <Saais> wastrel, yes, i am connected with full signal and have an ip assigned to my interface.
[12:09] <delpiero> italy
[12:09] <axs221_> SonicChao: probably need to use apt-get install xfce4 instead
[12:09] <delpiero> world champion
[12:10] <delgaudio> hi, some australian?
[12:10] <delpiero> FORZA ITALIA
[12:10] <SonicChao> axs221_: Sorry, when I did it, I didn't know
[12:10] <BHSPitLappy> hi all
[12:10] <wastrel> Saais:  what does the routing table look like?  try   route   there should be a line for each interface and a line for the default gateway
[12:10] <Warbo> Knome: xubuntu-desktop is only a meta-package isn't it? Purging would do nothing, since it conyains no configs
[12:10] <Saais> wastrel,
[12:10] <Saais> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[12:10] <Saais> 24.158.220.0    *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[12:10] <Saais> default         24-158-220-1.dh 0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[12:10] <SonicChao> Knome: Nothing happened.
[12:10] <Knome> Warbo: not sure
[12:10] <amonkey> what package has kdialog in it?
[12:11] <Seveas> Saais, please don't paste in here
[12:11] <Saais> Seveas, sorry.
[12:11] <apokryphos> amonkey: packages.ubuntu.com -- check there.
[12:11] <SonicChao> Warbo: I already uninstalled it earlier, with no luck
[12:11] <BHSPitLappy> Warbo, that's right
[12:11] <wastrel> well it seems you don't have a route set up for your wireless connection.
[12:11] <SonicChao> Warbo: What should I do?
[12:11] <Saais> hm
[12:11] <wastrel> Saais:  i'd first try taking the wireless interface down, and bringing it back up again.
[12:11] <Seveas> amonkey, kdebase-bin
[12:11] <Knome> SonicChao: hmm...that's all I got man
[12:11] <Warbo> BHSPitLappy: I found that out with xserver-xorg (the actual files are in xserver-xorg-core)
[12:11] <wastrel> Saais:  how do you normally do that?
[12:11] <Carmen-> Seveas must help me :\
[12:11] <jrib> SonicChao: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so, and then: sudo update-initramfs -u  <-- I think...
[12:11] <Saais> wastrel, do what? get on my router?
[12:11] <deloreandmc> how do i enable formatting of a usb drive? i used both disk manager and gparted but the 'format' option is greyed out!
[12:11] <Seveas> Carmen-, I must nothing...
[12:12] <wastrel> Saais:  enable your wireless connection
[12:12] <Saais> wastrel, it is, but ill bring it down and back up just to check
[12:12] <Carmen-> Seveas only thing you must is to die :\
[12:12] <Warbo> deloreandmc: If you know for sure what device/partition it is then you can use mkfs.vfat
[12:12] <Carmen-> only thing that human has to do
[12:12] <SonicChao> jrib: Let me try that
[12:12] <BHSPitLappy> on the livecd, the correct way to start X is the startx command, right? there's not a different way ubuntu has to start up gnome?
[12:12] <nuggio> anyone know why apache is working, but I can't access it from other computers on my network?
[12:12] <Seveas> Carmen-, who says I'm human?
[12:12] <Carmen-> oh
[12:13] <Carmen-> beep beep ur a robot
[12:13] <ubuntu_Iz> nuggio, you should see it if you type your ip in a web browser
[12:13] <wastrel> Saais:  i meant how do you enable your wireless connection :] 
[12:13] <nuggio> ubuntu_Iz: I do
[12:13] <nuggio> but not from my other computer
[12:13] <Saais> oh
[12:13] <ubuntu_Iz> is it on the same network, or router?
[12:13] <tony_> please someone help w black background in apps - i cant use some of them now.. example: http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/4778/xchat8gx.jpg
[12:13] <nuggio> same network
[12:13] <nuggio> I can ping, and it's the ipmasq box actually
[12:13] <Saais> wastrel, i use networking program under system
[12:13] <SonicChao> jrib: Let me try to restart, and I'll be right back
[12:13] <Bassetts> is there an easy way to convert everything in a text document to lower case?
[12:13] <jrib> SonicChao: k
[12:13] <nuggio> hmm
[12:13] <nuggio> I can't ping
[12:14] <nuggio> but I'm on the ipmasq box
[12:14] <ubuntu_Iz> did you forword port 80 to that computers internal ip?
[12:14] <nuggio> is there a default firewal
[12:14] <jrib> Bassetts: tr
[12:14] <Bassetts> tr??
[12:14] <nuggio> I want to go from the ipmasq box to the ubuntu box
[12:14] <Carmen-> Does anyone wanna help me with ndiswrapper?
[12:14] <wastrel> Saais:  k  and after 'refreshing' the wireless connection, do you have a route for the local network 192.168.2.* ?
[12:14] <nuggio> right now I'm vnc'd intot he ipmasq box from the ubuntu box
[12:14] <Chetic> How do I change what sound device is default?
[12:14] <aztracker1> is anyone in here successfuly using dialup with ubuntu 6.06?
[12:14] <Eazy-> anyone knows if this HowTo works in Dapper? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996&highlight=cedega+cvs
[12:14] <Bassetts> jrib: what is tr?
[12:15] <deloreandmc> do i use that command on this (/dev/sda1) location?
[12:15] <Seveas> Bassetts, cat file | tr QWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBNM qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm > file2
[12:15] <sutabi> Is it possible to install Ubuntu via ssh on an existing Linux Distro?
[12:15] <Saais> ubuntu_Iz, im trying to connect to the router first then i can get to the other machines.
[12:15] <Carmen-> OMG :<
[12:15] <Saais> wow lag?
[12:15] <jrib> Bassetts: a program, 'man tr' for the full story, but for what you want you can do: tr '[A-Z] ' '[a-z] ' < infile > outfile
[12:15] <Saais> wastrel, one moment
[12:15] <Saais> o_O
[12:15] <apokryphos> hm, genuine bots
[12:16] <Saais> lol @ shit botnet
[12:16] <Seveas> apokryphos, /mode +R suppresses the partmsges too I guess
[12:16] <Seveas> furtunately
[12:16] <Seveas> should test that
[12:16] <aztracker1> :(
[12:16] <Seveas> @part muha!
[12:16] <Seveas> yup
[12:16] <deloreandmc> Warbo do i use that command on this (/dev/sda1) location?
[12:17] <apokryphos> interesting, nice
[12:17] <Seveas> apokryphos, indeed very good to know
[12:17] <Seveas> btw: I'll rig up ubugtu to +rR the channel
[12:17] <Warbo> deloreandmc: Only if you are SURE it is the right location (don;t want to format the wrong drive)
[12:19] <Saais> wastrel, yes i do have route entries
[12:19] <Saais> ah I can ping the router now too. :O
[12:19] <wastrel> yay!
[12:19] <wastrel> i like it when it fixes itself :] 
[12:19] <Saais> lol
[12:19] <Saais> me too
[12:19] <Saais> :D
[12:19] <deloreandmc> warbo: its a usb drive. dont worry, i'm not gonna run any command just yet. what would ur cmd look?
[12:19] <Saais> wastrel, thanks for the help
[12:19] <wastrel> np
[12:19] <useff> Anyone know why I can't get alsa sound for this user only, but oss and macromedia flash sounds work?
[12:19] <davidl> could anybody help me by telling me an easy way to upgrade the ubuntu i already have... it is a very old version, the new version (ubuntu 6.06) has completely different sources in the sources.list file... whne i change it and try to upgrade, it messes up the computer and gives a strange error
[12:19] <Warbo> deloreandmc: It should be something like "sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1" like that (or whatever drive)
[12:20] <apokryphos> davidl: please check the FAQ
[12:20] <Warbo> useff: Close Firefox then try running someting with ALSA
[12:20] <useff> Warbo: just tried, no dice
[12:20] <jrib> davidl: also, you should upgrade version by version.  Don't skip versions in the upgrade: warty > hoary > breezy > dapper
[12:20] <davidl> oh, i see... ill check it out, thanks] 
[12:21] <Warbo> useff: Hmm. Do you have Audacity?
[12:21] <SonicChao> jrib: Ahhhhhhh!
[12:21] <useff> no, should I get it?
[12:21] <jrib> SonicChao: ?
[12:21] <SonicChao> That destroyed my system!
[12:21] <crashzor> davidl, use shipit for a new version
[12:21] <Warbo> useff: Just wondering if that ran, since it uses OSS as well
[12:21] <SonicChao> jrib: GRUB was drawing a blank, it said "Kernel PANIC"
[12:22] <jrib> SonicChao: well I did put "I think" in there, what did it do?
[12:22] <useff> I'm gonna try it out
[12:22] <Phoul> !restictedformats
[12:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about restictedformats
[12:22] <Phoul> !resticted formats
[12:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about resticted formats
[12:22] <grubchub> !porn
[12:22] <Phoul> lol whoops
[12:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about porn
[12:22] <apokryphos> !restricted
[12:22] <SonicChao> jrib: Lol, I shouldn't have done that....Terminal drew a blank, and than when I rebooted GRUB wouldn't load
[12:22] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:22] <grubchub> :p
[12:22] <apokryphos> grubchub: do not abuse the bot please.
[12:23] <grubchub> apokryphos, sorry couldn't help myself. it  won't happen again ;)
[12:23] <SonicChao> jrib: Should I just re-install Ubuntu?
[12:23] <jrib> SonicChao: no, one sec
[12:23] <SonicChao> jrib: Ok
[12:24] <jrib> after update alternatives for usplash, is the correct command to update the initramfs: sudo update-initramfs -u?
[12:24] <useff> Warbo: audacity plays audio just fine
[12:24] <SonicChao> jrib: I copied and pasted you're command.
[12:24] <SonicChao> I don;t know what went wrong
[12:24] <Warbo> useff: Hmm. That does narrow it down to ALSA. But the funny thing is that OSS goes through ALSA these days
[12:25] <jrib> SonicChao: you don't have an old kernel to boot into?
[12:25] <sladen> jrib: sudo update-initramfs -u `uname -r`
[12:25] <zest> Hi allthere ! Someone knows anything about WIN TV HVR 900 under dapper ?
[12:25] <SonicChao> jrib: No, *sigh*, I only started with Ubuntu 2 days ago.
[12:25] <useff> it's all pretty strange to me. I created a new user and for whatever reason that user can use alsa just fine
[12:26] <Warbo> useff: Have you checked the permissions in the Users And Groups window?
[12:26] <pump> hi
[12:26] <SonicChao> jrib: What should I do...?
[12:26] <Warbo> hi
[12:26] <useff> Sure have, Warbo. audio permissions are there
[12:26] <pump> i need some help, i'm trying to help a friend of mine to configure the nvidia drivers
[12:27] <Warbo> useff: Hmm, weird
[12:27] <jrib> SonicChao: hmm ok I just checked my logs and the command I gave is the normal one and should have worked :/
[12:27] <stefg> !nvidia
[12:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:27] <Warbo> useff: Are you on Warty or something? (Does Warty use OSS, not ALSA?)
[12:27] <useff> dapper
[12:27] <grubchub> !mysphpadmin
[12:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about mysphpadmin
[12:27] <grubchub> !myphpadmin
[12:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about myphpadmin
[12:27] <SonicChao> jrib: I have a suspicion that a mistake I made caused the problem, see, there was an accidental space. :( How can I fix it?
[12:27] <jrib> SonicChao: but, regardless, you now have a kernel panic... just explain to the channel your situation.  I'll see if I turn anything up on the forums
[12:28] <zHack> has anyone ever used phalk?
[12:28] <SonicChao> jrib: Ok.
[12:29] <ajax4> Where can I get info on how to install new fonts?
[12:29] <SonicChao> Hi, I accidentely added a space before a command in Ubuntu, and now I have a Kernel Panic. What should I do?
[12:29] <jldugger_> "The following packages have been kept back:  gdk-imlib1 libcairo2 libcairo2-dev libkrb5-17-heimdal" anyone know how to find out why, or how to install them anyways?
[12:29] <Warbo> !fonts
[12:29] <ubotu> fonts is Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, gsfonts-x11 - Microsoft fonts: install the msttcorefonts package
[12:29] <zHack> wiki?
[12:29] <grubchub> !phpmyadmin
[12:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about phpmyadmin
[12:29] <Jack_Sparrow> I tried to follow the wikki !nvidia thought I got everything installed, restricted-modules and all but no splash screen when I restart X with ctrl-alt-backspace and glxgears -printfps has error X has been changed...
[12:29] <ajax4> thanks
[12:29] <SonicChao> grubchub: STOP. Now.
[12:29] <redguy> can someone tell me whwre i misconfigured my wireless interface? It does not come up after boot, I have to run ifdown ath0 && ifup ath0 manually: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17196
[12:29] <grubchub> SonicChao, stop what?
[12:29] <SonicChao> grubchub: All the bot errors. It knows nothing, ok?
[12:29] <jrib> SonicChao: did you see if recovery mode worked?
[12:29] <zest> Hi :(( wintv hvr 900 usb....
[12:30] <grubchub> SonicChao,  I typed in the wrong app name before
[12:30] <SonicChao> jrib: Yes I did, didn't work
[12:30] <wastrel> grubchub:  /msg ubotu info pypmyadmin
[12:30] <jldugger_> you should be able to /msg the bots
[12:30] <ajax4> jldugger_: I have a similar problem with libcairo2. Haven't figured out what to do though yet.
[12:30] <grubchub> wastrel,  ty :)
[12:30] <SonicChao> jrib: Unless I did something wrong, can you explain how to get to Recovery Mode?
[12:30] <redguy> also, it seems that the ssid is not set up during boot, but it is magically configured after ifdown && ifup
[12:30] <zHack> how would i install a wireless card? like a linksys wirless g on a laptop
[12:30] <jrib> SonicChao: just a different choice at the grub menu
[12:30] <SonicChao> jrib: I tried that now that you say it, it didn't work.
[12:30] <kaot> zHack: first, find a chicken to sacrifice
[12:31] <zHack> :S
[12:31] <Syco54645> how can i change the gcc version that is used to compile?
[12:31] <jldugger_> even dist-upgrade isn't installing them
[12:31] <kaot> second, plug it in, reboot, and pray.
[12:31] <kaot> third, curse.  a lot.
[12:31] <grubchub> hehe
[12:31] <zHack> kaot: it wont work?
[12:31] <wastrel> Syco54645:  export CC=/path/to/gcc
[12:31] <kaot> you may wish to kick and/or throw things at this stage as well
[12:31] <kaot> :\
[12:31] <kaot> zHack: It might. I had a hard time with mine, so I'm scarred.
[12:32] <zHack> did you get it to work?>
[12:32] <SonicChao> jrib: I think I should re-install, I won't lose anything, just a few desktop enviroments, I only started 2 days ago
[12:32] <wastrel> Syco54645:  of course, it depends on how you're doing the compile
[12:32] <SonicChao> jrib: Is that a good idea?
[12:32] <kaot> erm... downloaded and installed ndiswrapper, then tried random .inf windows files with it until it worked.
[12:32] <jrib> SonicChao: yeah, that's probably easiest for you
[12:32] <kaot> then I upgraded to dapper
[12:32] <kaot> and I won't repeat what I had to go through THEN.
[12:32] <Syco54645> wastrel: it says that i have 3.4 and 4.x installed, but i can only find 4.x
[12:32] <wastrel> Syco54645:  what says that?
[12:32] <SonicChao> jrib: Ok, thanks for trying to help me, I appreciate it. :)
[12:33] <jldugger_> ajax4, did you install Xgl?
[12:33] <zHack> kaot: is there any wireless card that will work with it?
[12:33] <jrib> SonicChao: yeah, sorry about the results :P
[12:33] <Syco54645> wastrel: apt-get, and i assume that it knows my system fairlt well
[12:33] <kaot> let's just say I'm real upset that they automagically added bcm43xx module for me.
[12:33] <pump> thanks stefg, we're following that tutorial
[12:33] <SonicChao> jrib: I didn't really do much...I have most files on disks :D
[12:33] <vertz> Hi, i'm a Norwegian guy, i just installed ubuntu dapper drake, norwegian charactures dont work in gnome-terminal, anyone know why?
[12:33] <kaot> zHack: wel if you check the forums I think there's actually a survey on what the best wireless card is.
[12:33] <zHack> kaot: ok thanks man
[12:33] <wastrel> Syco54645:  what are you compiling that needs 3.4 and how are you compiling it?
[12:33] <kaot> zHack: what I'd recommend is plug the thing in, lspci to get the chipset, then google ubuntu + chipset
[12:33] <jldugger_> ajax4, I think that's where it's coming from. synaptic has some more information on what happens when you try to mark it for upgrade.
[12:33] <ajax4> jldugger_: Yeah, a few weeks ago...but then it stopped working. The errors I was getting were from the special Xgl repositories.
[12:34] <Syco54645> wastrel: winex (cedega cvs) and using the included script.
[12:34] <ajax4> jldugger_: I disabled the repositories and I no longer get the errors but Xgl is no longer working for me.
[12:34] <Syco54645> wastrel: unless you know of a place for me to get binaries of winex precompiled, as everyone says that it is very hard to compile
[12:34] <wastrel> Syco54645:  i'm not familiar with winex but it wouldn't hurt to try  export CC=/path/to/gcc3.4
[12:34] <deloreandmc> warbo: i ran it! lol, but the error response helped me out. i had it mounted. duh!
[12:35] <zest> Hi ! Has anyone tried to get running the wintv hvr 900 from hauppauge ?
[12:35] <codemac> I'm trying to help my friend rip dvd's with ubuntu, and I installed dvdrip, but it complains about not being able to read the encrypted disk.. does ubuntu not have DeCSS?
[12:35] <deloreandmc> warbo: unmounted then all the format options showed
[12:35] <Syco54645> wastrel: i cant find gcc3.4 on mmy machine thouigh
[12:35] <ardchoille> does Ubuntu have a central HCL?
[12:36] <wastrel> Syco54645:  locate gcc | grep 3.4  maybe
[12:36] <jldugger_> ajax4, "Depends: libfreetype6 (>=2.2.1) but 2.1.10-1ubuntu2.1 is to be installed." seems like a version problem.
[12:36] <jldugger_> Syco54645, gcc-3.4 etc should work
[12:37] <jldugger_> there's also "alternatives"
[12:37] <zest> quit
[12:37] <Syco54645> jldugger_: thanks.
[12:37] <ajax4> jldugger_: Yeah, maybe those repositories need to be updated before it will work..?
[12:38] <jldugger_> ajax4, i think libcairo2 came from them, and isn't compatible
[12:38] <ajax4> !restricted
[12:38] <grubchub> Is there a default username/password for phpmyadmin?
[12:38] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:38] <ajax4> grubchub: I think its root with no password.
[12:38] <grubchub> ajax4, danke :)
[12:38] <Syco54645> wastrel: even once i export it and do a cc --version it is still 4.0
[12:38] <codemac> so I can't watch dvd's with ubuntu?
[12:39] <ajax4> grubchub: You're welcome.
[12:39] <ardchoille> codemac: I watch DVD's with Xine just fine
[12:39] <ajax4> codemac: check out this url: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:39] <jldugger_> codemac, not without either breaking US law or paying someone
[12:40] <jldugger_> most folks opt for breaking the US law
[12:40] <codemac> haha
[12:40] <grubchub> eep
[12:40] <ajax4> codemac: I think the library you need is libdecss2
[12:40] <ardchoille> lol
[12:40] <codemac> me too.
[12:40] <grubchub> for running local phpmyadmin sure is a dog
[12:40] <redguy> can someone tell me whwre i misconfigured my wireless interface? It does not come up after boot, I have to run ifdown ath0 && ifup ath0 manually also, it seems that the ssid is not set up during boot, but it is magically configured after ifdown && ifup: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17196
[12:40] <ajax4> grubchub: There are better apps for locally updating a database.
[12:41] <jldugger_> but ubuntu's authors choose to simply do without, so they can keep it free, and legal.
[12:41] <grubchub> ajax4, for the mildly retarded? ;) :p
[12:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Weeeee glxgears now at 4200
[12:42] <ajax4> grubchub: Hehe, sure. phpMyAdmin is good for remote databases when you are stuck with a web interface. Hang on, lemme check something.
[12:43] <derek> !sound
[12:43] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:44] <Ropechoborra> Hi.. what should i install to play mp3s files?
[12:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3
[12:44] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:44] <Ropechoborra> Thanks! =)
[12:44] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[12:44] <izhirahider> !w32codecs
[12:44] <ubotu> w32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[12:44] <grubchub> actually
[12:45] <grubchub> it might just be this computer
[12:45] <grubchub> it's pretty perky on my laptop
[12:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra: be sure to type those command lines for w32codecs as two lines NOT 3
[12:45] <Igneous> BlueEalge: Wazzup
[12:45] <pump> now i need some help for myself, i'm trying to configure a pctv stereo card, does somebody knows?
[12:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra: first two lines are actually ONE command
[12:45] <ajax4> grubchub: Try installing mysql-query-brower or mysql-navigator...like phpMyAdmin but with nice GUIs :)
[12:45] <compengi> does someone knows flightgear game?
[12:46] <FatchaMaCallitz> lol flightgear
[12:46] <grubchub> sweet :) thanks ajax
[12:46] <FatchaMaCallitz> thats old
[12:46] <erikg> i'm running xubuntu; when i try to open index.php in a local mediawiki installl firefox prompts me to open it using mousepad...  has anyone had a similar problem?
[12:46] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, do you know a new one?
[12:46] <grubchub> I've got a notes file
[12:46] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, nope
[12:46] <grubchub> on my desktop
[12:46] <ardchoille> erikg: you need to install php
[12:46] <grubchub> taking lots and lots of notes...
[12:47] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, when i was installing it i got errors
[12:47] <bettong_mst3k> how do i choose which java to let frostwire run?
[12:47] <erikg> ardchoille, i have.
[12:47] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, you have the newest version, off thier site?
[12:47] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, i think so
[12:47] <erikg> ardchoille, the right one too.  this problem has occurred to other people too
[12:47] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, righto.. and you're logged in as root?
[12:47] <codemac> ajax4: I'm getting some "can't open the title 1 info file" now that I've installed libdvdcss2
[12:48] <bigfoot1> someone's asking about my pc's specs.
[12:48] <bigfoot1> what does he want to know when he asks about "network card"
[12:48] <bigfoot1> ?
[12:48] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, as you can see
[12:48] <ideogram> some PC's have networking built in
[12:48] <erikg> ardchoille, see http://drupal.org/node/51018
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> bigfoot1:  CHipset or model nuumber
[12:48] <ideogram> some have it on a card that plugs in
[12:48] <bigfoot1> and what does he want to know about "video card" and "sound card"
[12:48] <codemac> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh <= teh failure
[12:49] <ajax4> bigfoot1: Also he may want to know if its wireless or not.
[12:49] <bigfoot1> ideogram: well, i've got broadband internet
[12:49] <bigfoot1> ajax4: oh, my box is desktop
[12:49] <bigfoot1> no wireless
[12:49] <Jack_Sparrow> bigfoot1:  what os are you in right now?
[12:49] <ajax4> codemac: Try a few different disks and see if it happens on all of them.
[12:49] <energywhiz123> does anyone know if there is a way to adjust the mouse wheel speed?  I find it pretty slow now and wanted to speed it up
[12:49] <pjv> how can i set cron to ping google every ten seconds? so that i don't get disconnected from my dial up connection
[12:49] <jldugger_> bigfoot1, some people have computers with seperate "cards" for video and sound. others just have onboard. if you dont know what he needs to know, i suspect you've got onboard
[12:49] <ideogram> no the bandwidth is not determined by your network card
[12:49] <grubchub> hmm
[12:50] <ideogram> that's your cable modem or DSL modem
[12:50] <grubchub> does your console bork after you launch a gui ap?
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> bigfoot1:  what os are you in right now? Windows or Linux
[12:50] <grubchub> such as gftp
[12:50] <grubchub> or gedit
[12:50] <bigfoot1> Jack_Sparrow: ubuntu now
[12:50] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, should i install a slackware, debian, or Fedora Core
[12:50] <bigfoot1> so what's the basic answer for a "network card"?
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Everesthome is a good WIndows tool for hardware identification..
[12:50] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, get the source
[12:50] <ardchoille> compengi: what is your issue?
[12:50] <bigfoot1> do i just say "yes, i have a network card"?
[12:50] <ideogram> you should be able to find out using some kind of utility, but I don't know which one
[12:50] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, compile it like that
[12:51] <ideogram> no the manufacturer is important
[12:51] <grubchub> i can't seem to run any other commands inside my console after I luanch a gui app within it
[12:51] <ideogram> and the model number
[12:51] <Jack_Sparrow> bigfoot1: do you have the option of booting to windows?
[12:51] <jldugger_> bigfoot1, depends on why he wants to know.
[12:51] <bigfoot1> Jack_Sparrow: not at this tim
[12:51] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, you're prolly not gonna want a deb package for ubuntu -_-
[12:51] <thewrinklyninja> stupid question, but how do you cahnge the colours of the panels and windows?
[12:51] <Set> what is the command to copy a folder from one location to another?
[12:51] <ideogram> you might be able to just open up the PC and look
[12:51] <ajax4> Set: use the mv command
[12:51] <grubchub> oh
[12:51] <jldugger_> bigfoot1, under system->administration->device manager
[12:51] <grubchub> i see :)
[12:51] <bigfoot1> jldugger_: coz i'm selling my pc
[12:51] <grubchub> you have to close the gui app
[12:51] <grubchub> ah ha!
[12:51] <Set> ajax4, I want to copy it, not move it
[12:51] <redguy> come on, nobody can help me with wifi config?
[12:51] <bigfoot1> and all i said was it includes mouse , monitor, keyboard and cpu
[12:51] <Tyeserel> hi all =)
[12:51] <ajax4> Set: then cp -r <folder> <destination>
[12:51] <tzar> hey, can someone help me to mount my /dev/hda1 so I can delete/write files on it
[12:51] <compengi> ardchoille, i want to install flightgear game, i downloaded it as a debian package .deb and tried to install and what i got
[12:52] <Jack_Sparrow> redguy:  is that a broadcom
[12:52] <thewrinklyninja> is it ntfs?
[12:52] <tzar> yes
[12:52] <stefg> tzar, don't
[12:52] <thewrinklyninja> not sure if it will be writable then
[12:52] <jldugger_> you'll probably see a lot of "stuff" in that.  for network, you're looking for "ethernet" controller or something similar
[12:52] <tzar> at least how can I delete files
[12:52] <thewrinklyninja> you can definately make it read only
[12:52] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, Get the souce and compile that http://www.flightgear.org/Downloads/source.shtml
[12:52] <tzar> I need to cleare a few things off it
[12:52] <tzar> because windows wont boot on it
[12:53] <Chetic> How do I change what sound device is default?
[12:53] <Ropechoborra> wich is the command to install packages like gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[12:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !sound
[12:53] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:53] <thewrinklyninja> check here, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[12:53] <ep> what's my version, i forgot
[12:53] <tzar> thewrinklyninja,
[12:53] <tzar> I know how to mount it read only
[12:53] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, .taz one?
[12:53] <tzar> I want to delete files from it
[12:53] <tzar> :\
[12:54] <thewrinklyninja> for that I do not know, sorry
[12:54] <Ropechoborra> wich is the command to install packages like gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg ?
[12:54] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, tar.gz
[12:54] <stefg> !captive
[12:54] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:54] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, lol yes
[12:54] <tzar> Ropechoborra, sudo apt-get install <thing>
[12:54] <redguy> Jack_Sparrow, nope, an atheros
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> WHoever needs or wants to mount their drives should try the diskmounter script here:  http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[12:54] <Ropechoborra> Thanks
[12:54] <jldugger_> what command is executed when you press control alt backspace, exactly?
[12:54] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, the first one
[12:54] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, yep
[12:54] <compengi> pl
[12:54] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, get the prerequisite
[12:54] <compengi> ok
[12:54] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, (s)
[12:55] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, ?
[12:55] <ideogram> I can't wait for NTFS writing
[12:55] <lmungewel> Hi. Is this (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/) the right place to pick up the daily live CD? They don't appear to have changed since the 6.06 release, and I need to use an undated kernel for my Mac....
[12:55] <Chetic> Jack_Sparrow: there is no "multimedia system selector" in system->preferences
[12:55] <redguy> Jack_Sparrow, since the same thing happened on two different setups (althouch in both cases the card is atheros based) I would rather suspect my misconfiguration somewhere
[12:55] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, Make sure to get the prerequisite(s)
[12:55] <ideogram> I need to keep a FAT partition around just to be able to move files back and forth
[12:55] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, more than one lol
[12:55] <redguy> s/althouch/although/
[12:55] <spikeb> lmungewel: it is the right place, but i dont think they've started daily edgy builds yet
[12:56] <kaot> redguy: what's the problem you're having with it?
[12:56] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, lol what are prerequisites
[12:56] <kaot> (like I'm gonna know how to fix this lol)
[12:56] <redguy> can someone tell me whwre i misconfigured my wireless interface? It does not come up after boot, I have to run ifdown ath0 && ifup ath0 manually also, it seems that the ssid is not set up during boot, but it is magically configured after ifdown && ifup: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17196
[12:56] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, they are listed on the site, right below the source
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Chetic:  do you know what type of sound card or chipset it has?
[12:56] <kaot> redguy: you got it entered in /etc/network/interfaces?
[12:56] <redguy> kaot, the pastebin is my interfaces file
[12:56] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, this one Download the latest base package release (143Mb). (Includes Textures, models, data, aircraft, sample scenery, and config files.)
[12:56] <Chetic> Jack_Sparrow: uh.. if I got a list of what I have, I guess I would know..
[12:57] <lmungewel> spikeb - are you saying that the dailys only apply to the next release? If so when will a revised Dapper Image (or Netboot) appear - I need the fixes in kernel >= 2.6.15-25.
[12:57] <spikeb> lmungewel: yes, and i don't know
[12:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Chetic: If it is something that was not detected it wont be there
[12:57] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, yep.. and whats below that? Prerequisite: Glut (FreeGlut) - OpenGL Utility Toolkit (GLUT) library.
[12:57] <redguy> kaot, AFAIK if it wasn't set up in interfaces ifup ath0 wouldn't work
[12:57] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, so on and so fourth
[12:58] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, all of them? lol
[12:58] <Chetic> Jack_Sparrow: it works fine, if I MANUALLY choose the right device in the settings, it works great
[12:58] <lmungewel> spikeb - thanks. Looks like I might need to build my own iso :-(
[12:58] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi,lol yea
[12:58] <spikeb> lmungewel: good luck
[12:58] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, you have to get all of them
[12:58] <Chetic> Jack_Sparrow: but not all applications will let me do this (and I don't want to have to!)
[12:58] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, and you know how to compile, right?
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Chetic: I dont know of any good Linux hardware ID tools, just Everesthome for XP
[12:58] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, no teach me please =/
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> ah
[12:58] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, eek!
[12:58] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, this'll be fun
[12:59] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, hehe
[12:59] <delaney> if i wanted to rip a data cd.. like say ubuntu dapper install to an iso to create another copy for a friend with dialup how would i do that?..
[12:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Chetic: Then what device are you selecting in your settings?
[12:59] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, well.. just tell me when you have all the tarballs (tar.gz's)
[12:59] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, it will take me long time :D lol
[12:59] <Jack_Sparrow> delaney:  Download the cd for him.. A lot less work for you
[01:00] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, in that case
[01:00] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, i'll teach you now
[01:00] <delaney> Jack_Sparrow,  how so.. i can rip it in ten mins and burn it in less then that im sure
[01:00] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, ok ty
[01:00] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow:  im trying to install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg but some kind of error (wich i cant translate from spanish =( ) shows up... it probably means i dont got the file, how can i download it ?
[01:00] <delaney> i can have it for him in 20 mins and he can head out with it in his hand now
[01:00] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, do you know basic commands.. like cd.. dir.. and the such?
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> delaney: You cant rip it.. You would need to remaster and make bootable etc.
[01:01] <Seveas> Ropechoborra, put the error on the pastebin. To get the error in english: LC_ALL=C sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[01:01] <delaney> thats not right at all cause ive ripped copies of xp and had them reburn fine
[01:01] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, yes
[01:01] <Chetic> Jack_Sparrow: uhm.... hw:1,0?
[01:01] <delaney> *in windows
[01:01] <FatchaMaCallitz> delaney, dude.. just use nero to remake the iso
[01:01] <Stormx2> Jack_Sparrow: Are you like, permanently in this channel? ;-)
[01:01] <redguy> Seveas, maybe you could help me with my wifi...
[01:01] <tzar> !ntfs
[01:02] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[01:02] <Seveas> redguy, maybe, but I'm quite busy
[01:02] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, ok. well all you have to do, is extract the tarballs to their own dir, then navigate to each and evey one of those with the terminal.. then type this
[01:02] <delaney> FatchaMaCallitz,  i guess ill have to i figured there was a way to do it in linux..  thanks i guess
[01:02] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, . /configure
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Stormx2: Mom is in intensive care, this is therapy for the next week
[01:02] <Ropechoborra> !paste
[01:02] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, make
[01:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:02] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, make install
[01:02] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, and poof
[01:02] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, compiled and installed
[01:02] <Stormx2> Jack_Sparrow: Sorry to hear that :(
[01:02] <Chetic> Jack_Sparrow: I choose ADC Capture/Standard PCM Playback (hw:1,0).. what can I do with this info? :p
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Stormx2: and yea, in her 20 hrs
[01:02] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, normally *
[01:02] <redguy> Seveas, thought so... I'll try to bug people here then
[01:03] <Stormx2> Jack_Sparrow: Well I really wasn't complaining - you're doing a really good job
[01:03] <FatchaMaCallitz> delaney, yea.. i don't know of any linux burning progies that are that well developed
[01:03] <redguy> s/people/other people/
[01:03] <vidaloca> ou alguem pode me ajudar a instalar um pacote no ubuntu??
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Stormx2:  She is 79  lived long and prospered..  Thanlks for the kind words.  Sorry to anyone who I have been short or testy with..
[01:03] <redguy> !es
[01:03] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:03] <Tom7e> i have a problem.  I like to set both panels at the bottom of the screen, with the applications at the very bottom, but whenever i restart my PC, they are swapped with the workspaces panel at the very bottom..
[01:03] <redguy> !br
[01:04] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:04] <FatchaMaCallitz> !roflnoob
[01:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about roflnoob
[01:04] <FatchaMaCallitz> !darn
[01:04] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17197
[01:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about darn
[01:04] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, can you type it as a command not mixed
[01:04] <Stormx2> Jack_Sparrow: Well, good work, but 20h a day is looking for a wage, get some sleep!
[01:04] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, it has to be one at a time
[01:04] <stelki> does anyone know why this comes in xev?     XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 175
[01:04] <stelki> Where from does it origin? (which config file)
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Thanks
[01:05] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, ". /configure" (minus the quotes)
[01:05] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, "make"
[01:05] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, "make install"
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Starting to blurr together, see ya all in a few hours or maye a short nap..
[01:05] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, but actually.. its been a while since I've had to compile.. maybe its /make and /make install
[01:05] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, but i'm prett sure there aren't forwardslashes
[01:06] <Evilscietnist> hmmm....win xp client....access denied at domain logon....HUH??
[01:07] <FatchaMaCallitz> que?
[01:07] <FatchaMaCallitz> you got me there evil
[01:07] <Evilscientist> heh
[01:07] <Chetic> How do I change what sound device is used as default?
[01:07] <Ropechoborra> Someone can help me ? Im trying to install a package but an error shows up ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17197 )
[01:07] <Evilscientist> setting up samba server....can see and interact with it in Network neighbourhood...but can't join as a domain with winxp
[01:08] <stefg> !info gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[01:08] <ubotu> gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg: FFmpeg plugin for GStreamer. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.10.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1316 kB, installed size 3176 kB
[01:08] <FatchaMaCallitz> (>.<)
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra:  why dont you just do that from synaptic
[01:08] <Stormx2> Ropechoborra: Read that ^
[01:09] <Dial_tone> hdparm is just for ide devices, right?
[01:09] <Stormx2> Ropechoborra: Basicly you need to add the universe repository.
[01:09] <stefg> !repos> Ropechoborra
[01:09] <FatchaMaCallitz> how do you use all the !'s
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Like Storm says
[01:09] <FatchaMaCallitz> !help
[01:09] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[01:09] <FatchaMaCallitz> ah nvm
[01:09] <Stormx2> !botsnack
[01:09] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, so i should extract all the files in one single directory right and to use on each file in a terminal then to type what you told me too right
[01:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about botsnack
[01:09] <Ropechoborra> Ok thanks! but.. why i cannot do that from a terminal?
[01:09] <Stormx2> zomg
[01:09] <fowlduck> how can you disable all automounting in ubuntu.  This is for things like CDs and external hard drives and thumb drives
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Stormx2: Yea, Im going, I'm going
[01:10] <Stormx2> Jack_Sparrow: Me too! Night night.
[01:10] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, extract to seperate directorys.. then compile each,make,make install
[01:10] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, do that for every dir and you're set
[01:10] <stefg> Ropechoborra: you need to enable the Universe-Repository... read about it
[01:10] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, then you might even be able to install the deb package.. but i doubt it.. you're better off with the source
[01:11] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, O.o for every file in a directory
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra:  try it our way and experiment later.. k
[01:11] <FCTE> If you use automatix it will reset your repos to all
[01:11] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, every tar.gz goes in its own dir
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix
[01:11] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[01:11] <spikeb> please don't use automatix.
[01:11] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, so they can be compiled seperately
[01:11] <stefg> !easyubuntu
[01:11] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[01:11] <FatchaMaCallitz> !stfu
[01:11] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[01:12] <gnomefreak> spikeb: why not?
[01:12] <FatchaMaCallitz> lol
[01:12] <Dial_tone> my nfs drives aren't mounting on bootup, even though they are in fstab. Where can I start looking to find out why? I don't see anything telling in /var/log/messages
[01:12] <Carmen-> HEY where do i wanna put my IPTABLES SCRIPT SO IT AUTOLAODS AT STARTUP?!?!?!?!?!
[01:12] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, when i was trying to install the deb file i got an error saying : Software index is broken
[01:12] <compengi> It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first.
[01:12] <spikeb> gnomefreak: because I don't want to watch somebody put together another automatix screwed system.
[01:12] <stefg> Dial_tone: nfs or ntfs ?
[01:12] <FatchaMaCallitz> lol!
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Dial_tone: try the diskmounter script   http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[01:12] <Dial_tone> nfs
[01:13] <compengi> It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first.
[01:13] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, when i was trying to install the deb file i got an error saying :  when i was trying to install the deb file i got an error saying : Software index is broken
[01:13] <stefg> !nfs
[01:13] <gnomefreak> spikeb: there isnt much wrong with it in the sense that its just like anyother 3rd party repo/software
[01:13] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
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[01:13] <FatchaMaCallitz> gnomefreak, i'm in the middle of having an intelligent conversation with the bot and you kick me?
[01:13] <david_> i asked a lil bit ago about hwo to get the new version of ubuntu cuz i am running an old one... i as told to read the FAQs and i cant find where it talks bout this at all, maybe im not looking in the right spot... any ideas?
[01:13] <spikeb> gnomefreak: it's a badly put together script.
[01:13] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, yea you'll need the source then
[01:13] <gnomefreak> FatchaMaCallitz: you were warned there is no playing with the bot
[01:13] <gnomefreak> spikeb: have you seen it lately?
[01:13] <Petecakes> So I've followed the guide for setting up modems with PPPoE from the Wiki, and even THAT's not working.
[01:13] <Petecakes> Any ideas?
[01:14] <FatchaMaCallitz> gnomefreak, lol sorry.. never saw that
[01:14] <Chetic> How do I change what sound device is used as default?
[01:14] <spikeb> gnomefreak: no - just seen the OTHER work by the same devs. i wouldn't trust them not to commit suicide with a rubber spatula.
[01:14] <stefg> !upgrade
[01:14] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[01:14] <gnomefreak> spikeb: you might want to look into again it has changed
[01:14] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, how to unistall that to reduce the error
[01:14] <Carmen-> HEY where do i wanna put my IPTABLES SCRIPT SO IT AUTOLAODS AT STARTUP?!?!?!?!?!
[01:14] <FCTE> spikeb, never had any problems with automatix
[01:14] <gnomefreak> stefg: please stop playing with the bot
[01:14] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, sorry.. what?
[01:14] <gnomefreak> !repeat > Carmen-
[01:15] <dribble> vncviwer is way.too.cool
[01:15] <spikeb> gnomefreak: no way - it might be better now, but just wait until they try and extend it - the first few tries they will screw it up.
[01:15] <FatchaMaCallitz> anybody know a good NFO making progie, I'm too lazy to make one by hand
[01:15] <FCTE> Anyone else install the new beta from Google Earth, it rocks
[01:15] <Peregrino> Hello
[01:15] <david_> oh, so i could just run "sudo update-manager" under root? or something like that?
[01:15] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, you remember when i told you about when i was trying to install the flightgear game with .deb extension and what error i got?
[01:16] <stefg> gnomefreak: Playing?... I make him giving answers for real questions people have
[01:16] <david_> that was meant for obuto sorry :0
[01:16] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, yea
[01:16] <DuDReNoV> Hey
[01:16] <Peregrino> Hey, dowes anythng happened to Universe & Multiverse? I'm on a 5.1 Live Ubuntu and I can't refresh them :/
[01:16] <gnomefreak> stefg: send the nick a msg from ubotu please either !tell nick about fact or !fact > nick
[01:16] <DuDReNoV> I have a wierd question. I was wondering if anyone can help
[01:16] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, now i got an icon up near the clock like an update one saying that: Software index is broken
[01:16] <compengi> It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first.
[01:16] <FatchaMaCallitz> dudrenov, what is it
[01:16] <DuDReNoV> Emacs wont maximize properly
[01:17] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, whoa.. odd, dunno
[01:17] <DuDReNoV> under X. Tehre is a gap on the right side
[01:17] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, i need to unistall what i was trying to install
[01:17] <FatchaMaCallitz> dudrenov, lol sorry thats a bit advanced for me..
[01:17] <DuDReNoV> here is a scren shot
[01:17] <FatchaMaCallitz> will someone help this guy?
[01:17] <FCTE> In synapticthere is a fix broken packages selection
[01:17] <DuDReNoV> chello.nl) has joined channel #ubuntu
[01:17] <DuDReNoV> ERC> http://www.dudrenov.com/Screenshot.png
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> compengi: did you try synaptic?  Did you go to term and type that?
[01:18] <ompaul> !test
[01:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about test
[01:18] <FatchaMaCallitz> !yo mama
[01:18] <Peregrino> Hey, does anythng happened to Universe & Multiverse? I'm on a 5.1 Live Ubuntu and I can't refresh them :/
[01:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about yo mama
[01:18] <compengi> Jack_Sparrow, i opene the term and typed : sudo apt-get install -f
[01:18] <redguy> ubotu, you lie again
[01:18] <FatchaMaCallitz> ROFL!
[01:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about you lie again
[01:18] <compengi> Password:
[01:18] <compengi> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:18] <compengi> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:18] <ardchoille> DuDReNoV: you using xfce?
[01:18] <eternaljoy> hey hey :)
[01:18] <ToHellWithGA> i have a problem with audio.  i'm using digital output and getting a significant delay between when playback starts and when sound starts coming out.  everything is in sync but the first 1-3 seconds simply do not play aloud
[01:19] <DuDReNoV> ya
[01:19] <DuDReNoV> same happens on other wms
[01:19] <ardchoille> FatchaMaCallitz: you didn't learn the last time?
[01:19] <ardchoille> DuDReNoV: yeah, that happens with my xfce too
[01:19] <FatchaMaCallitz> ardchoille, sorry, what?
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> compengi:  do you have an other programs terms open?
[01:19] <delire> DuDReNoV: odd, perhaps it has something to do with increment handling with Emacs, as an X application i mean.
[01:19] <ardchoille> FatchaMaCallitz: the last time you were kicked for playing with the bot
[01:20] <delire> DuDReNoV: sorry, i use vim so cannot help. it's sounds like Emac's problem, not Gnome's.
[01:20] <DuDReNoV> I think it has to do wiht font-sizes that are used in emacs under X
[01:20] <FatchaMaCallitz> ardchoille: sue me
[01:20] <DuDReNoV> but I dont know how to change that
[01:20] <compengi> i have the software update thing opened and an error message in it
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> You cant do that in term with the software updater open
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> shut it and do the term comand again
[01:21] <stefg> compengi: how about using sudo?
[01:21] <FatchaMaCallitz> look guys, i'm tired.. i've been up for 24 hours.. Peace for now
[01:21] <compengi> ok :D
[01:21] <delire> DuDReNoV: definitely see #emacs
[01:21] <FatchaMaCallitz> compengi, good luck, i'ma catch some shut-eye
[01:21] <DuDReNoV> i did
[01:21] <eternaljoy> hey hey :)
[01:21] <DuDReNoV> they had no idea
[01:21] <compengi> FatchaMaCallitz, ok ty for all
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Nodding off myself.. Hurry compengi
[01:21] <DuDReNoV> the closest thign to a solution that they had was to use ratpoison
[01:21] <compengi> lol
[01:22] <compengi> Jack_Sparrow, it's working
[01:22] <ardchoille> DuDReNoV: I believe that's an issue with the xfce Terminal app, not emacs
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> weeeee
[01:22] <compengi> downloading things
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> compengi: you should be good to go.. I gotta sleep.. sorry
[01:22] <DuDReNoV> actually hapens on al wms but sligthly diferent effect
[01:22] <delire> DuDReNoV: yes, though non-WIMP WM's have a completely different way of handling the resizing of X-Applications.
[01:22] <compengi> Jack_Sparrow, me too
[01:22] <Peregrino> Hey, does anythng happened to Universe & Multiverse? I'm on a 5.1 Live Ubuntu and I can't refresh them :/
[01:22] <DuDReNoV> happens on gnome to but sligthly diferently
[01:22] <Petecakes> So I've followed the guide for setting up modems with PPPoE from the Wiki, and even THAT's not working.
[01:22] <delire> DuDReNoV: i would see #Emacs.
[01:22] <lophyte> !nvidia
[01:22] <Petecakes> Any ideas?
[01:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:22] <compengi> Jack_Sparrow, night
[01:23] <DuDReNoV> I did see emacs
[01:23] <sudomania4> when i try to shut down, i get this in cli: unregister_netdevice: waiting for vmnet1 to come free. Usage count = 1
[01:23] <delire> Peregrino: hmm they seem to be ok from here, though my repo's are German..
[01:24] <Peregrino> My repos are english :/
[01:24] <delire> Peregrino: right.. can you paste the actual repo URL here?
[01:25] <stefg> maybe get a fresh sources.list from source-o-matic?
[01:25] <Peregrino> delire: yep, gimme a sec
[01:25] <delire> np
[01:25] <Technel> Is there a way to assign drive letters from Ubuntu?
[01:25] <stefg> ouchhh... that one hurt :-)
[01:26] <Peregrino> delire: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[01:26] <delire> Technel: this is simply done with mountpoints.
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Technel: try the diskmounter script   http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[01:26] <delire> Peregrino: it's fine from here.
[01:26] <delire> Peregrino: over http that is.. i'll add it to my sources.list and see if it checks out.
[01:27] <Peregrino> Mhhh so wich may be the problem...
[01:27] <Petecakes> No help, then?
[01:28] <SonicChao> jrib: Are you still here?
[01:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Petecakes: You working on video drivers?
[01:28] <neighborlee> anyone else seeing a sub process error upon attempting to install 'crystalcursors ' ?? ;))
[01:28] <SonicChao> Ok, no...
[01:28] <Petecakes> Jack_Sparrow: No, I'm still trying to get the internet working in Ubuntu...
[01:29] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[01:29] <Peregrino> delire: the warning I get say "Could not download all repository indexes" & "The list of sources could not be read.
[01:29] <Peregrino>  Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem."
[01:29] <SonicChao> I want to install KDE and XFCE for use in the sessions menu. Before I installed "xubuntu-desktop" and "kubuntu-desktop" and they changed my splash screen. Please tell me what to type into "sudo apt-get install ____________"
[01:29] <delire> Peregrino: hmm.. it works fine from here. perhaps it's because you're using a LiveCD and it's trying to write to a readonly medium somehow?
[01:29] <sudomania4> when i try to shut down, i get this in cli: unregister_netdevice: waiting for vmnet1 to come free. Usage count = 1
[01:30] <homerj> is there something special I have to do to get AE support on Ubuntu/PPC ? There some FAQ I missed about what I need to do?
[01:30] <sudomania4> i cant shut down
[01:30] <lophyte> !sources.list
[01:30] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:30] <Peregrino> delire: Ok, I shall reboot and see what happens ^_^
[01:30] <delire> sudomania4: are you running vmware?
[01:30] <delire> Peregrino: cool.. sorry i can't help thus far!
[01:30] <SonicChao> Can anyone help me?
[01:30] <homerj> I have 6.06 and it just fails to load the module complaining about firmware
[01:30] <sudomania4> delire, i have it installed, but i havent made any guests
[01:31] <Peregrino> delire: don't worry you've been very helpy ;)
[01:31] <delire> Peregrino: cheers
[01:31] <Peregrino> Cya all!
[01:31] <delire> ciao!
[01:31] <SonicChao> I want to install KDE and XFCE for use in the sessions menu. Before I installed "xubuntu-desktop" and "kubuntu-desktop" and they changed my splash screen. Please tell me what to type into "sudo apt-get install ____________"
[01:31] <SonicChao> Can someone help me?
[01:31] <delire> sudomania4: hmm, well for some reason vmware isn't shutting down properly. have you looked at #vmware?
[01:31] <sudomania4> delire, yes
[01:32] <sudomania4> but thanks
[01:32] <delire> sudomania4: np
[01:32] <stefg> homerj: AE is unsupported /Apple will not release any specs, so no-one can actually write a driver for it./ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=862
[01:33] <dgh1973> SonicChao: xfce4 kdebase I believe
[01:33] <arooni> hey folks.... i am trying to build this vmware tools thing.... and its asking me where the default location of the 'make' program is on my system... how do i answer it?
[01:33] <SonicChao> dgh1973: Are you pretty sure...?
[01:33] <homerj> stefg, I remember reading that there now was a driver for it
[01:33] <dr_willis> SonicChao,  i belive the ubuntu wikis/forums discuss th splash screen changes.. personally i disable the Ugly thing.  and dont worry about the eye candy
[01:33] <stefg> google is your friend :-)
[01:33] <Ropechoborra> I installed Universe Repositories from Synaptic ... now what should i do to install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg ?
[01:33] <dgh1973> SonicChao: pretty, yes
[01:33] <benville> hi all
[01:33] <delire> arooni: do you have the 'build-essential' package installed?
[01:33] <SonicChao> dgh1973: I'll give it a shot then
[01:34] <arooni> delire: i dont believe so
[01:34] <arooni> whatever comes with dapper
[01:34] <arooni> just installed it
[01:34] <dgh1973> SonicChao: those should install the environments themselves without things like the splash changes
[01:34] <delire> arooni: install that and give it ago, it provides 'make' the gnu C compiler and everything else you need to compile software.
[01:34] <maagimies> SonicChao, try removing kubuntu-artwork-usplash, it should change the bootsplash to ubuntu
[01:34] <arooni> delire: how do i install it?  (total noob here)
[01:34] <SonicChao> dgh1973: I just want to be able to Boot into KDE and XFCE from "Select Session..."
[01:35] <maagimies> SonicChao, and also xubuntu-artwork-usplash
[01:35] <delire> arooni: no problem. 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' or just use the Synaptic package manager (GUI)
[01:35] <SonicChao> dgh1973: Will it let me do that?
[01:35] !lilo:*! Hi all. Sloof3 has set up a channel ( ##news-northkorea ) for discussion of the recent news items on North Korea. If you're interested, please stop by. Thanks!
[01:35] <Lord-ChewY> hi
[01:35] <delire> arooni: (same thing really, CLI is just a bit faster)
[01:35] <dgh1973> SonicChao: maagimies idea is sound to, if all you are worried about is the splash changes then try that, that way you can still use the "-desktop" meta packages which are good and keeping things in line
[01:35] <SonicChao> Ok
[01:35] <SonicChao> Thanks
[01:35] <SonicChao> :)
[01:35] <Lord-ChewY> i got  a question, here it is, if i use gmailfs to hold files and then link to them from a webpage will the file go through my network or straight from gmail to the user?
[01:36] <benville> i have a monitor 1280x768 i have installed the nvidia drivers and xgl and compiz is working just my resolution is stuck at 800x600
[01:36] <Eddie> Is there anyone here who digitally signs their email who can help me test my mail setup
[01:36] <delire> benville: it was higher before compiz though?
[01:36] <Lord-ChewY> benville: you need to edit xorg.conf
[01:36] <Lord-ChewY> it is found in /etc/X11/
[01:36] <dgh1973> Lord-ChewY: that depends on what the anchor tag looks like I suppose
[01:36] <sladen> maagimies: / SonicChao: just run  'sudo update-alternatives usplash-artwork.so'
[01:36] <benville> yes but not right
[01:36] <delire> sladen: nice tip.
[01:37] <benville> what do i put in xorg.conf
[01:37] <Lord-ChewY> dgh1973 <a href="/mountpoint/song.mp3" djmix </a>
[01:38] <Lord-ChewY> dgh1973 <a href="/mountpoint/song.mp3">djmix </a>
[01:38] <delire> arooni: once the 'build-essential' package is installed, you're all set to compile C and C++ programs (like vmware in your case).
[01:38] <dgh1973> Lord-ChewY: yeah, that will go to your filesystem and will fail unless it's configured to be a web accessible area
[01:38] <Lord-ChewY> dgh1973: what would the anchor have to look like to get it right from gmail?
[01:39] <dgh1973> Lord-ChewY: it would have to look something like <a href="https://mail.google.com/path to stuff>link</a>
[01:39] <Lord-ChewY> dgh1973: so then every user would have to know the username/password =(
[01:39] <dgh1973> Lord-ChewY: which I suppose would not work at all because they would have to log into your gmail account
[01:40] <dgh1973> Lord-ChewY: right
[01:40] <benville> anyone in here a xorg pro
[01:40] <Lord-ChewY> dgh1973: anyway yeah i kinda figured it would go from google to me to them
[01:40] <Lord-ChewY> dgh1973: if i used gmailfs
[01:40] <benville> my monitor is a 1280x768 what do I do to get it to work
[01:40] <Lord-ChewY> dgh1973: which would suck even more for me heh
[01:41] <Lord-ChewY> dgh1973: as opposed to hosting it myself at least
[01:41] <dgh1973> Lord-ChewY: yeah, but again it would have to be a web accessible area so you would probably want to limit access
[01:41] <dgh1973> Lord-ChewY: if you were to host it yourself that is and use a file system anchor tag
[01:41] <Lord-ChewY> dgh1973: i guess what i could do is limit apache2's upload speed, you know what i should read up on to do that?
[01:42] <AlinuxOS> fabbione, FORZA AZZURRI!!! ITALY IS FINALIST! :)
[01:42] <Lord-ChewY> dgh1973: i really dont want it to interfear with my quake3 matches =/
[01:42] <Tonren> Hey guys, has anyone here ever set up a 32bit chroot on 64bit arch?
[01:43] <hangfire> everytime I try and lower the resolution, after putting in the name and password it goes back to the old resolution
[01:43] <hangfire> anyone know whats wrong?
[01:43] <dr_willis> hangfire,  that user may have set to use a specific res.. try with a new user. and see if it still does it..
[01:43] <Lord-ChewY> also, how can i have ubuntu save my settings so gmail/azureus/gmail notifier pop up on boot?
[01:43] <dr_willis> hangfire,  or check that res change featutre and see if it has more options now
[01:43] <hangfire> ok thanks Lord Chewy
[01:44] <hangfire> thx dr willis
[01:44] <arooni> delire: now wthat i have installed the buiild-essential package, where do i tell it the default build program is?
[01:44] <kaot> anyone happen to know when sshd stopped using AllowHosts in sshd_config?  I thought that used to be a valid option
[01:44] <Peregrino> delire: I just reboot ubuntu and the repos refresh went OK :P
[01:44] <Peregrino> delire: I think the last time I messed up with mounting the discs -_-
[01:45] <korozion> anyone had troubles with xine-engine stuff 'skipping'
[01:45] <SinnerG> hehe
[01:46] <benville> hey guys still stuck on 800x600 any ideas
[01:46] <ToHellWithGA> i just wanna be sure i'm on the right page.  if i have a technical audio question i should wait for crimsun, right?
[01:46] <SinnerG> shared 20 ubuntu cd's at work
[01:46] <SinnerG> all gone :)
[01:46] <ToHellWithGA> SinnerG: nice
[01:46] <dgh1973> Lord-ChewY: sorry I stepped away there for a sec, let me take a look
[01:46] <benville> i want my 1280x768
[01:46] <Tonren> Anyone?  32-bit chroot on a 64-bit machine?
[01:46] <SinnerG> ordered 24 more :p
[01:46] <benville> xgl will look much better at that rez
[01:46] <SinnerG> btw, I'm switching this night 2 ubuntu (again ;p)
[01:46] <redguy> after some testing it seems that  the ssid and the channel are not being set up during bootup. Still, both are set up when doing ifup ath0. Why would the interfaces be set up differetnly on bootup?
[01:47] <arooni> folks i just installed the 'build-essentail' package... and i have another program that is asking me 'what is the location of the make program on your computer'.... how do i respond?
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> benville: What video card?
[01:47] <dgh1973> Lord-ChewY: try this out, I didn't look at it closely but it was the first hit on a goolge search of "apache upload throttling"... http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-networking/13664-upload-speed-limiting-apache.html
[01:47] <benville> nvidia gforce
[01:47] <redguy> arooni, see wat which make says in your terminal
[01:48] <redguy> arooni, run which make
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> benville:  You did the drivers page and kernel modules stuff right
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> nvidia 6600 pci-e here
[01:48] <benville> think so installed nvidia driver
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia
[01:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:48] <johlin> I've installed thunar, how do I make it the default file manager?
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry bot I should have used !tell benville nvidia
[01:49] <benville> xgl/compiz is working
[01:49] <dgh1973> benville: look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf near the bottom, you will see multiple lines that have a list of common resolution types, take out all of the ones higher than your preferred res on all lines to get GDM to use your preferred res (as well as your desktop which can be set in Preferences)
[01:50] <Lord-ChewY> dgh1973: thanks
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> benville: what do you get in a term running glxgears -printfps  ?
[01:50] <dgh1973> benville: and you can use automatix to install nvidia drivers easily
[01:50] <dgh1973> !automatix
[01:50] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[01:50] <benville> what is the pastbin thing i have used before i will show you the file
[01:51] <eternaljoy> hey hey :)
[01:51] <eternaljoy> whats new pussycat?
[01:51] <dgh1973> benville: this? http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-networking/13664-upload-speed-limiting-apache.html
[01:51] <lampshade> What is the best way to make a module load on startup
[01:51] <hangfire> is easyubuntu good for installing graphic drivers?
[01:51] <dgh1973> benville: oops wrong link... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  <-- that
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> benville: paste that to me over at #Jack_Sparrow if you dont mind
[01:51] <benville> ty
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !easybuntu
[01:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about easybuntu
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !tell hangfire about easyubuntu
[01:52] <CHodapp> !nothing
[01:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about nothing
[01:52] <arooni> so now its asking me 'what is the location of the directory of c header files that match my runnning kernel' ... how should i respond?
[01:52] <lampshade> Loading modules anyone?  I know there is a supper easy way, but I don't remember it at all
[01:52] <dgh1973> !installation
[01:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:52] <lophyte> lampshade: modprobe <module-name>
[01:52] <ljlolel> i love ubuntu
[01:52] <Ropechoborra> !info gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[01:52] <ubotu> gstreamer0.10-pitfdll: GStreamer plugin for using MS Windows binary codecs. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 0.9.1.1+cvs20060312-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 79 kB, installed size 260 kB
[01:52] <earsnot> the newest gtk is version 2.10. should I compile this?
[01:52] <no_gatez_fan> I manualy edited my partition table, resized the swap and created 2 partitions I want to raid, mount, and format but cant find how to do it
[01:52] <dgh1973> I see someone added even more to it!
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> hangfire: What video card?
[01:53] <no_gatez_fan> fresh install
[01:53] <hangfire> I know what easyubuntu is, Im just wondering if its recommended for installing graphic drivers, although it seems that easyubuntu is somehow OT here
[01:53] <benville> here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17200
[01:53] <dr_willis> hangfire,  installing the nvidia or ati drivers takes about 5 min. by following the guides
[01:53] <hangfire> ati 9250
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> hangfire: Use at your own risk pretty much says it all.. It works for MANY not ALL
[01:53] <dr_willis> then next time about 2 min. :P
[01:53] <gnomefreak> hangfire: it is OT here
[01:53] <arooni> so now its asking me 'what is the location of the directory of c header files that match your runnning kernel' ... how should i respond?
[01:53] <lampshade> lophyte: what about so that it does it on startup?
[01:53] <arooni> sorry i have no idea where this dir is
[01:54] <hangfire> ok, thanks JackS
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:54] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow: I installed the Universe repositoryes, i could install the first package i told u but, now im trying to install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll and it says Not found. Should i download it ?
[01:54] <lampshade> lophyte: some file I add it to?  Or something like that?
[01:54] <earsnot> should I use gtk 2.10???
[01:54] <lophyte> lampshade: one sec
[01:54] <benville> the rez i am after is 1280x768
[01:54] <dgh1973> arooni: usually /usr/include linux I think
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra:  are you in synaptic, have you enabled all repositories?
[01:54] <dgh1973> arooni: make that /usr/include/linux
[01:55] <no_gatez_fan> is there good on line directions for manually partition?
[01:55] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow:  yes.. let me check.. but yes
[01:55] <no_gatez_fan> partitioning
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Ben is that a wide screen you are after?
[01:55] <FreshPrince> how do i update openoffice?
[01:55] <benville> yup
[01:55] <earsnot> gnomefreak: version 2.10 of gtk is out should I cmpile and use it or wait for the repos
[01:56] <Ropechoborra> Yes i enabled all repositories
[01:56] <gnomefreak> FreshPrince: to what version?
[01:56] <FreshPrince> gnomefreak, wait
[01:56] <lophyte> !modprobe.d
[01:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about modprobe.d
[01:56] <benville> it is a sony laptop
[01:56] <lophyte> !modprobe
[01:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about modprobe
[01:56] <gnomefreak> earsnot: i would wait but thats up to you
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra: click on add and click all four buttons
[01:56] <lophyte> oi..
[01:56] <dgh1973> earsnot: if you want to give yourself a headache, go for it :-)
[01:56] <lophyte> lampshade: I'm not exactly sure
[01:56] <johlin> How do I change the default file manager from nautilus to my newly installed thunar?
[01:56] <lophyte> lampshade: I believe you add it to /etc/modprobe.conf
[01:56] <FreshPrince> gnomefreak, to 2.0.3
[01:57] <Ropechoborra> Ok.. downloading
[01:57] <earsnot> dgh1973: is it really that much of a problem?
[01:57] <gnomefreak> FreshPrince: you cant
[01:57] <arooni> dgh1973: so now it tells me the header files in /usr/include are generally for c libraries not for the running kernel.  if you do not have kernel header files in your /usr/src directory, you probably do not have the kernel-source package installed. are you sure that /usr/include contains the header files associated with your running kernel' .... what should i say?
[01:57] <FreshPrince> gnomefreak, why
[01:57] <cyphase> http://www.worldjumpday.org/
[01:57] <lophyte> lampshade: er, not that... one sec
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra: np your welcome
[01:57] <mada> j0
[01:57] <gnomefreak> FreshPrince: its not built for ubuntu at all atm and may never see dapper you can build it yourself but its a beast
[01:57] <mada> 4 second sync? .. wtf
[01:57] <eXCeSS> in firefox, when you click the top right circle thing, how do i make that go to the firefox homepage, not the 'about me' of my distro?
[01:57] <lophyte> lampshade: /etc/modules -- there you go.
[01:57] <dgh1973> arooni: /usr/include or /usr/include/linux?  the first response I gave had a typo, apologies
[01:57] <FreshPrince> gnomefreak, ok
[01:57] <gnomefreak> FreshPrince: it might make it into edgy they havent looked into that yet
[01:57] <fladd> hi there
[01:57] <benville> can anyone look at my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17200 and tell me how to make my screen rez 1280x768
[01:58] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow:  u know i love u !!! xP
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[01:58] <fladd> does anyone know a program that can extract the sound from a video file?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> !fixres > benville
[01:58] <gnomefreak> benville: read your pm
[01:58] <benville> ty
[01:58] <lampshade> thank you
[01:58] <dgh1973> earsnot: gnome has a lot of dependencies, there is a build script that can ease things available somewhere on www.gnome.org (I forgot the name of it, sorry)
[01:58] <gnomefreak> fladd: iirc there are a few but i dont remember the names i would use synaptic and see if you see one
[01:59] <dgh1973> earsnot: all those dependencies will probably need to be upgraded along with gnome and there's no telling what that would do to a gnome-centric distro like ubuntu
[01:59] <earsnot> dgh1973:  so i'd be better off waiting
[01:59] <gnomefreak> earsnot: yes
[02:00] <dgh1973> earsnot: yeah, but fear not, ubuntu stays up to date and edgy (next release) should be out in a few months?  Anyone confirm?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> earsnot: building something that big is normally left alone due to it can screw everything up if not right
[02:00] <gnomefreak> dgh1973: well looking like oct 25th
[02:00] <mada> dgh1973: i think we are about 4 months away from edgy
[02:00] <earsnot> gnomefreak: aack, the 25th?!?!
[02:00] <gnomefreak> earsnot: yep
[02:00] <dgh1973> yeah, that one will probably have latest versions of everything
[02:01] <gnomefreak> earsnot: on a 4 month release what do you want"?
[02:01] <dr_willis> of course by the time it comes out.. new releases of stff will allready be comming out. :)
[02:01] <gnomefreak> dgh1973: ick
[02:01] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:01] <earsnot> earsnot:  dude that wasnt in the negative
[02:01] <FreshPrince> gnomefreak, how long should i wait for openoffice under ubuntu.. the new version?..
[02:01] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: hello my dear friend
[02:01] <dgh1973> gnomefreak: agreed, I hear it's supposed to be "edgy", not sure how I feel about that myself
[02:02] <gnomefreak> there is a whole lot of things messed up due to one or 2 libs lol
[02:02] <eternaljoy> dgh1973: define edgy
[02:02] <gnomefreak> FreshPrince: it wont be in dapper so i would say agfter oct 25th
[02:02] <dgh1973> gnomefreak: if I wanted a bleeding edge, half broken distro I'd use fedora
[02:02] <gnomefreak> hi eternaljoy
[02:02] <FreshPrince> gnomefreak, ok
[02:02] <gnomefreak> dgh1973: its not half broken it is fully uninstallable
[02:02] <arooni> dgh1973: so i tried giving it /usr/include/linux and saying yes... then it said that those files dont match my currently running kernel which is 2.6.15-23-386, and that the c header files in /usr/include/linux are version 2.6.11 ... ideas?
[02:02] <arooni> is there any other place they could be?
[02:02] <dgh1973> eternaljoy: with several packages at latest or near latest versions, often trades a bit of stability for features
[02:03] <dgh1973> arooni: hang on arooni, let me take a look
[02:04] <dgh1973> arooni: sorry man I lead you astray, try this: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386/
[02:04] <dgh1973> arooni: hopefully that will make it happy and complaint free
[02:04] <benville> gnomefreak tryed most of them
[02:04] <arooni> dgh1973: thanks for your help , let me try that dir
[02:05] <benville> gnomefreak the strange thing is i have xgl/compiz working
[02:05] <gnomefreak> benville: might be the issue try in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:05] <UKMatt> is there just a basic search equavilent in ubuntu?
[02:05] <dr_willis> UKMatt,  care to be a little more verbose?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> UKMatt: what do you mean?
[02:06] <dgh1973> benville: xgl and compiz will interfere with nvidia 3d glx
[02:06] <benville> gnomefreak would you cast your eye over my conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17200
[02:06] <UKMatt> i'm trying to do a search for pictures on my hard drive
[02:06] <arooni> dgh1973: i tried to nagivate to that dir, but its not installed in my version of ubuntu, is there anyway of getting it?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> UKMatt: beagle
[02:06] <gnomefreak> benville: yes
[02:06] <benville> ty
[02:07] <delire> fladd_: did you work it out? i'd say the best way is to use stream copying.
[02:07] <benville> dgh1973 could you have a look 2
[02:07] <dgh1973> arooni: yeah, try this - apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386
[02:08] <gnomefreak> benville: what res do you want?
[02:08] <ruslan> hi all
[02:08] <arooni> dgh1973: do i need to start that with a 'sudo' ?
[02:08] <benville> 1280x768
[02:08] <gnomefreak> arooni: yes
[02:08] <dgh1973> arooni: yes, apologies
[02:08] <ruslan> i try to find a way to install jre
[02:08] <medverd> i try to find a way to install jre
[02:08] <UKMatt> gnomefreak, ty beagle works fine, i'm suprised something like that wasn't incorporated into the os
[02:08] <dgh1973> benville: this looks good for a 3d enabled nvidia setup
[02:08] <gnomefreak> it is installed by default iirc
[02:09] <gnomefreak> benville: does your monitor/video card support that res?
[02:09] <benville> dgh1973 but need to work with 1280x768
[02:09] <benville> in windoze it will
[02:09] <UKMatt> gnomefreak, it allows you to search images, media and everything, but do you know if theres a way to find all images, or all conversations or something?
[02:09] <Mongey> i need help, i was installing gfx card drivers and it told me to restart xorg, so i did ctrl alt and backspace,and it started to reboot now
[02:09] <Mongey> its stuck at the kubuntu logo
[02:09] <gnomefreak> UKMatt: not off hand without using find files/folders in the places menu
[02:10] <benville> ukmatt find . | grep jpg
[02:10] <gnomefreak> sorry UKMatt its searcer files
[02:10] <delire> fladd_: there is probably an easier way, but 'mencoder' from the commandline may provide you with options. that said perhaps VLC or another movie playing app allows you to separate audio and video streams, and write out a file./
[02:10] <arooni> dgh1973: ... i tried that and it said invalid operation linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386
[02:10] <SurfnKid> is anyone using i8k fan control?
[02:10] <arooni> ideas?
[02:10] <charleseddy> i'm a serious newb.....anyone got a tip for installing the updated firefox?  i'm used to windows, lol.
[02:10] <ljlolel> hey, so I made a symlink to something in /usr/lib/.../python//....site-packages/, and when I, sudo su www-data,  that user can't follow the symlink
[02:10] <gnomefreak> !ff
[02:10] <ljlolel> how do i make it follow the symlink?
[02:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about ff
[02:10] <Mongey> anyone ???
[02:10] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[02:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about ff1.5
[02:10] <delire> arooni: do you have the kernel headers installed? 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386'
[02:10] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrrr
[02:10] <SurfnKid> !firefox
[02:10] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[02:11] <dgh1973> benville: widescreen?  or did you mean 1280x1024?
[02:11] <SurfnKid> :)
[02:11] <LjL> !firefox
[02:11] <medverd> ok gg i got it
[02:11] <medverd> =)
[02:11] <fladd_> delire, thank you, i will try that
[02:11] <charleseddy> tnx.
[02:11] <ljlolel> wow, nevermind
[02:11] <gnomefreak> !ff is <alias> firefox
[02:11] <dgh1973> arooni: sorry, try sudo apt-get install linux-headers-386 instead
[02:11] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[02:11] <Mongey> please
[02:11] <sja> the latest firefox is in the repositories ... if you want to have the auto update work you have to chance ownership from root to you
[02:11] <SinnerG> okay
[02:11] <dgh1973> arooni: I forgot that it will push you to use the meta packages
[02:12] <benville> dgh1973  gnomefreak any more ideas
[02:12] <SinnerG> almost ready to say bye bye 2 windows 2k3 :P
[02:12] <dgh1973> benville: widescreen?  or did you mean 1280x1024?
[02:12] <fladd_> i have another question though, does anyone know, how to change the name of the storage drive in kubuntu?
[02:12] <SinnerG> any suggestions of what version to use?
[02:12] <SinnerG> got cd for (k)ubuntu
[02:12] <delire> fladd: there will likely be an easy solution. if it's DV video you could try loading it into Kino and exporting just the audio..
[02:12] <gnomefreak> benville: nope i would check with #ubuntu-xgl
[02:12] <benville> widescreen
[02:12] <arooni> dgh1973: now its working!
[02:12] <arooni> thanks
[02:12] <arooni> !!
[02:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about !!
[02:12] <benville> they dont speek there it like a ghost town
[02:13] <dgh1973> arooni: yesh!
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> benville: What brand of widescreen .. your config just shows a generic monitor
[02:13] <benville> dgh1973 widescreen
[02:13] <Mongey> i need help, i was installing gfx card drivers and it told me to restart xorg, so i did ctrl alt and backspace,and it started to reboot but it gets stuck at thekubuntu logo
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> not supporting your requested rees
[02:13] <SinnerG> any advice on what version to get : kubuntu or ubuntu 32/64 bit?
[02:13] <dgh1973> benville: I sent a correction that will add that res, but if it doesnt't work then I would guess the monitor doesn't like the res
[02:13] <FreshLord> bin da
[02:14] <FreshLord> :D
[02:14] <stefg> !easysource >FreshLord
[02:14] <benville> the monitor is built in
[02:14] <fladd_> delire: it is a mpeg movie
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> SinnerG: 32
[02:14] <dgh1973> benville: of course make a backup first ;-)
[02:14] <arapehl> ToHellWithGA: Hey, IT WORKS! Guess what it was!
[02:14] <dash\> so I am trying to play this little game, right, and it says it needs libgtk-1.2.so.0, but a search returns libgtk1.2 and some similar ones, is this what I need?
[02:14] <gnomefreak> benville: sorry i dont play in there any more i just pinged someone that helps in there all the time but looks like bedtime for hinm
[02:14] <stefg> !easyubuntu > FreshLord
[02:14] <SinnerG> Jack_Sparrow: and ubuntu or kubuntu?
[02:14] <LjL> SinnerG: uh? whether you want *k*ubuntu or ubuntu depends only on the desktop environment that you want. whether to get the 32 or 64 bit version is another matter
[02:14] <dgh1973> dash\: yep
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> SinnerG: difference is Gnome or KDE desktops
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Do you have a preference
[02:14] <SinnerG> hmm
[02:14] <SinnerG> I think I'll take kubuntu then
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> KDE more like XP
[02:14] <SinnerG> dont like gnome that much ;p
[02:15] <LjL> Jack_Sparrow: in what ways?
[02:15] <benville> dgh1973 the monitor is built in its a sony vgc-v2m
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Gnome works a little better.. Flame on
[02:15] <dgh1973> SinnerG: boo, hiss!  hehe j/k
[02:15] <SinnerG> lol :)
[02:15] <dr_willis> I normally install UBUNTU, then install the Kubuntu desktopp
[02:15] <dr_willis> that way i got both
[02:15] <sja> Mongey-> Have you changed your kernal from the default 386?
[02:15] <SurfnKid> dude
[02:15] <dgh1973> benville: if it will run at that res then the corrections should work (crosses fingers!)
[02:15] <SurfnKid> massive shotout outside
[02:15] <FreshPrince> how can i show in ubuntu which gcc version he use?
[02:15] <SinnerG> dont get shot tho
[02:15] <benville> what is the correction
[02:15] <SurfnKid> stupid kids on 4th of july
[02:15] <FreshPrince> gcc -v didnt work..
[02:15] <FreshPrince> how an i show it?
[02:16] <SinnerG> SurfnKid : its the 5th here ;)
[02:16] <eternaljoy> benville: do you live in smallville?
[02:16] <gnomefreak> FreshPrince: you want to see what version ubuntu is using?
[02:16] <dgh1973> FreshPrince: gcc --version
[02:16] <benville> :) no in benville in the uk
[02:16] <FreshPrince> gnomefreak, yeah i got it.. dgh1973 tould me :D
[02:16] <FreshPrince> dgh1973, thx
[02:16] <SurfnKid> SinnerG: even better, its all over!
[02:17] <dgh1973> FreshPrince: no prob
[02:17] <stefg> !ati >Freshlord
[02:17] <SinnerG> okay, I got 160GB for linux, 160GB I cant touch atm (NTFS / Backup of stuff I need) - Gonna store it on another HD (external) tomorrow (gotta buy it first :p)
[02:17] <SinnerG> well, bye bye all, and wish me gl ;)
[02:17] <benville>  dgh1973 did i miss it or should i wait for the corrrection
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> goodluck
[02:17] <FreshLord> oops
[02:17] <arooni> dgh1973: so now it finds the directory but it says it doesnt include a 'linux' subdirectory as expected..... how can i appease this deamanding vmtools program?
[02:17] <stefg> !ati >FreshLord
[02:18] <dgh1973> benville: check that link in the pastebin again, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17201  - change is subtle, in the resolution listings
[02:18] <arooni> right now its /usr/include/linux-headers...   (no linux sub directory)
[02:18] <FreshPrince> dgh1973, bash: gcc: command not found
[02:19] <benville> ty
[02:19] <FreshPrince> .. :/
[02:19] <dgh1973> arooni: hmm, try this: sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386 /usr/src/linux and feed it /usr/src maybe?
[02:20] <dgh1973> FreshPrince: try "sudo apt-get install build-essentials"
[02:20] <ssuehr> arooni, have you tried the vmware KB?  I've found it very helpful for vmware related problems
[02:20] <FreshPrince> ok
[02:20] <alexMK> Hi
[02:20] <whaley> what is a good password management program? i prefer something gtk based, but i'm open to anything
[02:20] <arooni> ssuehr: no i was just trying to install the vmware essential tools
[02:21] <FreshPrince> dgh1973, package failed..
[02:21] <alexMK> How do I start and stop services? I know how to do that from the console but from the gui
[02:21] <Duff> Alright guys, I need help.
[02:21] <FreshPrince> dgh1973, do u have write the right packae name?
[02:21] <FreshPrince> build-essentials ?
[02:22] <Duff> I downloaded the .iso to a disc, and when I start my computer it goes to this weird DRDOS screen, and I have no idea what it is.
[02:22] <Peregrino> Can anyone helpme wwith samba?
[02:22] <dgh1973> FreshPrince: no I dont, my bad... it's "build-essential"
[02:22] <FreshPrince> ah
[02:22] <FreshPrince> u wrtie s @ the end
[02:22] <FreshPrince> :)
[02:22] <benville> see you all laterz
[02:22] <dgh1973> Duff: what did you download?
[02:23] <arooni> dgh1973: that didnt move the directory to the usr/src/linux ... directory... any ideas?
[02:23] <benville> ty for your help about to restart
[02:23] <arooni> basically it hink i should copy the whole directory there
[02:23] <arooni> but i dont know how
[02:23] <benville> see ya
[02:23] <dgh1973> benville: later man, let me know how it goes, good luck
[02:23] <benville> ty
[02:23] <Duff> The main .iso for ubuntu.
[02:23] <Duff> I made my own live cd, I guess.
[02:23] <Tonren> Anyone?  32-bit chroot on a 64-bit machine?
[02:23] <fladd_> delire: The video I am talkin about is an MPEG video and I just want to have the sound of it to make an mp3, since it is a musicvideo.
[02:24] <hangfire> anyone know a good usenet newsreader for ubuntu?
[02:25] <Blissex> hangfire: there are dozens, so be more specific.
[02:25] <Blissex> fladd_: there are various stream unpackers/repackers for MPEG streams.
[02:26] <Blissex> Tonren: there are some easily found web HOWTOs.
[02:26] <dgh1973> arooni: try /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386/include
[02:26] <fladd_> blissex: for instance?
[02:26] <Tonren> Blissex: It seems like none of them are written for Dapper.
[02:26] <hangfire> Blissex- well, its hard to be specifac because Im not aware of any, do you know of a good one? Im sure the repository has many but I dont want to download and try them all
[02:26] <dgh1973> arooni: and remove the symlink I had you make earlier if it's there (rm /usr/src/linux)
[02:26] <Blissex> Tonren: yo can use an HOWTO for Debian.
[02:26] <Tonren> Blissex: Hmm, didn't know that
[02:27] <Blissex> hangfire: text based? curses? GUI? GNOME?
[02:27] <Pocky> Alright guys, I need help installing ubuntu.
[02:27] <Tom7e> hello, i installed VLC by compiling from source and want to get the mozilla plugin, but it's only available through deb... but those deb files thinks i don't have vlc installed.  what should I do?
[02:27] <pinky> What's a Free Software replacement for Macromedia Dreamweaver?
[02:27] <hangfire> yes with a gui, Im a dummy sort of
[02:27] <gnomefreak> pinky: nvu
[02:27] <Blissex> Tonren: while Ubuntu is not Debian, Debian docs are almost all applicable to Ubuntu.
[02:27] <pinky> gnomefreak: Is that it?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> no thats the closest though
[02:27] <dgh1973> Tom7e: automatix
[02:27] <dgh1973> !automatix
[02:27] <Pocky> I downloaded the .iso but when I start it up, it goes to this weird DOS screen.
[02:27] <Blissex> hangfire: you use GNOME?
[02:27] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[02:27] <hangfire> yes
[02:28] <Tonren> Blissex: Wait a minute... I just relaized that I already have a /chroot/.  That's bizarre.  How can I tell which arch it's under?
[02:28] <hangfire> Blissex - yes
[02:28] <dgh1973> Pocky: I think you downloaded the server version instead of the desktop
[02:28] <Peregrino> gnomefreak: nvu is that good?
[02:28] <gnomefreak> Peregrino: i like it
[02:28] <stefg> Tom7e: wanted the VC1 decoder? Otherwise http://nightlies.videolan.orghas 0.8.5 dapper packs available
[02:28] <Pocky> No, I downloaded the one on Ubuntu. I don't think it's the server version... Is there any way I can check?
[02:29] <Peregrino> gnomefreak: I've been looking for a GNU replacement for DW, but couldn't find one as good as DW :S
[02:29] <gnomefreak> Peregrino: pinky bluefish is also a good one
[02:29] <Tom7e> stefg:  I want the mozilla plugin for VLC, i already have VLC but didn't get from synaptic, i used source.
[02:29] <dondong> hi,every1
[02:30] <Blissex> hangfire: ahhh perhaps there is an easy solution that is really simple....
[02:30] <Blissex> hangfire: you use Firefox?
[02:30] <Peregrino> gnomefreak: nvu only runs on Unix/Linux?
[02:30] <gnomefreak> Peregrino: no
[02:30] <dgh1973> Pocky: md5sum image.iso - if this is the number (4c7c835d244453b9a29d397e5cd973fd) it's the server
[02:30] <delire> Peregrino: nope, though that's the development platform.
[02:30] <gnomefreak> nvu is built for windows also
[02:30] <hangfire> Blissex, yes I use firefox, but I dont like Firefox extentions
[02:30] <arooni> dgh1973: so now it says that my kernel version is 2.6.15-23-386 ... and the file i gave it was 2.6.15-25-386 ....!   how do i get the same version as i currently have instaled
[02:30] <Blissex> hangfire: what you use for email?
[02:30] <Pocky> In english please.
[02:30] <dgh1973> Pocky: you want one that has a checksum of e2e5e0bfb2edffd2ce02dd77bda4558e
[02:31] <Blissex> hangfire: because Thunderbird has got both email _and_ news, with the simplest interface imaginable.
[02:31] <Pocky> D: Please tell me what a checksum is. I'm new to all of this.
[02:31] <gnomefreak> !verify > Pocky
[02:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about verify
[02:31] <Peregrino> gnomefreak: great! =D
[02:31] <hangfire> I use Thunderbird, but I hate Thunderbirds news reader, its worse than outlook express
[02:31] <dgh1973> arooni: ahh update the linux-image package
[02:31] <arooni> dgh1973: and how would i do that ??? :P
[02:31] <stefg> Tom7e: why did you go through the hassle? 1.) use the vlc prepacked ones, they are fine 2.) at least use checkinstall in order not to bypass apt when installing from source... your only option is compiling the mozilla-plugin as well now.
[02:31] <sja> handfire -> get PAN from the respositories
[02:31] <Ropechoborra> I got a multimedia keyboard.. (didnt install any drivers) but, when i press + / - buttoms for the volume a little screen appears but the volume isnt modified why could be that?
[02:32] <hangfire> ok thx sja, Ill check on that
[02:32] <dgh1973> arooni: sudo apt-get install linux-image-386 - will require a reboot to get everything in sync (running kernel matching header files)
[02:32] <eternaljoy> hangfire: the roof is on fire
[02:33] <hangfire> yeah, let the mofo burn!
[02:33] <pjay_> lo all, trying to get cedega cvs to work i have deleted a conflicting library and now deb is not a recognised archive and i cant use synaptic ne more
[02:33] <eternaljoy> hangfire: :P
[02:33] <Pocky> Alright, so when I do download the RIGHT one, what is it going to look like? When I start insert the CD and start up the computer.
[02:35] <dgh1973> Pocky: it will boot to what looks like an already working setup (live cd) with an icon on the desktop that says "install"
[02:35] <Pocky> Oh OK. Thanks. I guess I'll just download another one or something. Thanks for the help. I'll be back later.
[02:35] <dgh1973> hang on Pocky
[02:35] <pjay_> jus download the desktop iso
[02:36] <dgh1973> Pocky: use this link - http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[02:37] <dgh1973> pjay_: yeah good point, but unless he's trying to convert a mac or something it should be fine
[02:37] <pjay_> :)
[02:37] <Pocky> Then I burn that to a disc right?
[02:37] <pjay_> yep
[02:37] <dgh1973> Pocky: right
[02:37] <LA_VIP> someone could tell me how i may connect undernet please????
[02:37] <pjay_> burn as a disk image though durn just burn as a datafile
[02:37] <Pocky> It's downloading super slow. Alright guys. I'll be back later.
[02:37] <pjay_> ./server irc.undernet.com?
[02:38] <dgh1973> I'm currently running the 386 on an athlon 64 x2 system, had to upgrade the kernel to recognize the dual core but other than that it supports more (flash, codec) without having to get into chrooted madness
[02:38] <pjay_> or jus add irc.undernet.com to server list and hit connect
[02:39] <pjay_> trying to get cedega cvs to work i have deleted a conflicting library and now deb is not a recognised archive and i cant use synaptic ne more
[02:39] <dgh1973> pjay_: what was the file?
[02:39] <pjay_> libgl1-messa i think
[02:39] <charle97> what's good to use root-tail on?
[02:40] <pjay_> and cant get it back cos the deb isnt recognised and synaptic isnt working so im trapped in a cycle or error messages
[02:40] <dgh1973> I don't have that file, must have been a different one?  that sounds related to 3d rendering
[02:41] <pjay_> i think it took a couple of dependencies with it cos i dont have vlc nemore
[02:41] <dgh1973> charle97: /var/log/auth.log or /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog
[02:41] <mookie> What's a good program for interface w/ ipod other than gtkpod?
[02:41] <Far^Side> does anyone know of a program like mp3info (or ogginfo/vorbiscomment) that supports ID3v2?
[02:41] <charle97> ty dgh1973
[02:41] <Chillblane> hey does anyone know how to read files on a NTFS hardrive
[02:41] <pjay_> yes mount it
[02:41] <dgh1973> I have a bad feeling that Benville isn't able to get back into his X session now :(
[02:42] <doormouse> g'day ppl :)
[02:42] <Far^Side> mp3info only supports id3v1 :p
[02:42] <dgh1973> Sorry I gotta go all, good luck and happy hacking
[02:42] <Tonren> Hey guys, will I have any trouble running 32bit Ubuntu on a 64bit machine?
[02:42] <spikeb> Tonren: you should not
[02:42] <Far^Side> Tonren, no, you won't
[02:42] <Tonren> NICE
[02:43] <pjay_> Chillblane: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper will tell you how to mount ntfs partition
[02:43] <Tonren> I am going to reinstall, and fly on Ubuntu wings!
[02:43] <Chillblane> thanks
[02:43] <gandalf> Hello how do I get my bitrate  higher than 22M for a wifi connection
[02:43] <Guvnor-> anyone know about pptpclient?
[02:44] <ryanakca> ok, I made a html table... is there a program to make it display ascii? kindof like the one above this: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/tables.html#h-11.2.1
[02:44] <Guvnor-> i need a lil help setting up a pptpcleint.
[02:45] <Guvnor-> anyone can help me?
[02:45] <mookie> What's a good program for interface w/ ipod other than gtkpod?
[02:45] <gandalf> Hello how do I get my bitrate  higher than 22M for a wifi connection
[02:46] <ryanakca> mookie: amaroK
[02:47] <gandalf> Heloo
[02:48] <eternaljoy> does Google Earth work on Ubuntu?
[02:48] <eternaljoy> does Google Earth work on Ubuntu?
[02:48] <gandalf> yeah it does
[02:48] <ryanakca> yes
[02:48] <eternaljoy> how?
[02:48] <eternaljoy> how do I install it please?
[02:48] <maagimies> eternaljoy, yeah, it works quite good, it has crashed on me only one time
[02:48] <eternaljoy> !google earth
[02:48] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[02:48] <jleibold> wich repositories do i need to install mplayer?
[02:48] <maagimies> eternaljoy, google is your friend
[02:49] <eternaljoy> maagimies: how do I install it on Breezy?
[02:50] <eternaljoy> how do I install googleearth.bin ?
[02:50] <jleibold> any dapper repositories that have mplayer?
[02:50] <maagimies> eternaljoy, it's a binary, run it, it starts the installer
[02:50] <ToHellWithGA> !mp3
[02:50] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:50] <ToHellWithGA> jleibold: look at that ^
[02:50] <eternaljoy> maagimies: how do I run a .bin file?
[02:51] <ToHellWithGA> that should get you all the repositories you need and then some
[02:51] <eternaljoy> !.bin
[02:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about .bin
[02:51] <eternaljoy> !bin
[02:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about bin
[02:51] <gandalf> sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[02:51] <eKSeR> try    ./nameoffile.bin
[02:51] <ToHellWithGA> eternaljoy: have you tried ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin ?
[02:51] <ryanakca> eternaljoy: chmod 755 filename.bin, ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[02:51] <eKSeR> or sh nameoffile.bin
[02:51] <maagimies> eternaljoy, go to the commandline, cd to the directory where the file is, and type "./googleearth.bin" without quotes"
[02:51] <eternaljoy> ToHellWithGA: to Hell with you
[02:52] <eternaljoy> maagimies: ok brb
[02:52] <gandalf> sudo if you want to install system wide
[02:52] <ToHellWithGA> eternaljoy: that's entirely unnecessary
[02:52] <ryanakca> ok, I made a html table... is there a way to make it display ascii? kindof like the one above this: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/tables.html#h-11.2.1
[02:52] <eternaljoy> ToHellWithGA: well, lake of fire is where you are going
[02:52] <eternaljoy> brb
[02:53] <xnull-> hey how can I put 1024 on usplash ?
[02:53] <xnull-> 1024 rezolution..
[02:54] <eKSeR> edit ur /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:54] <eKSeR> like this  kernel	/vmlinuz-2.6.15-25-686 root=/dev/hda7 ro quiet splash vga=792
[02:54] <eKSeR> which kernel u use
[02:54] <LA_VIP> someone speak spanish????
[02:55] <eKSeR> vga=792 for 1024
[02:55] <orugo> la vip
[02:55] <xnull-> ekser :  defaut kernel 2.6.15-k7
[02:55] <orugo> YO
[02:55] <McScruff> lo LA_VIP
[02:55] <eKSeR> add vga=792 into kernel line
[02:55] <LA_VIP> ??
[02:55] <eKSeR> that's all
[02:55] <LA_VIP> McScruff,  what??
[02:55] <McScruff> we speak english :P
[02:56] <xnull-> ekser: and 1600 ?
[02:56] <LA_VIP> im chating with a latin person now };)
[02:57] <SurfnKid> LA_VIP: PM i spiko ispanioli
[02:57] <sladen> xnull-: google for the vesa mode number for 1600x1200
[02:57] <xnull-> sladen. ok..
[02:57] <ToHellWithGA> LA_VIP: latin as in spanish speaking or ancient roman?
[02:57] <soniccol> I have an question , if linux doesn't support my wireless network card , how can I do ?
[02:57] <xnull-> lol
[02:57] <LA_VIP> ash
[02:57] <LA_VIP> lantinamerica
[02:57] <Jenkens> Hi, I was curious if there's a network install or anything for dapper? I have the official 6.06 Desktop ISO I've burned, but when I boot my laptop with it it hangs on "mounting root file systems..." and I eventually get some IO errors in a console window. (This disc boots fine on another pc, however)
[02:57] <McScruff> soniccol, ndiswrapper
[02:57] <CHodapp> soniccol, maybe ndiswrapper
[02:58] <soniccol> ndiswrapper ?
[02:58] <ToHellWithGA> !ndiswrapper
[02:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:58] <SurfnKid> yep tacowrapper does the job well
[02:58] <sladen> Jenkens: possibly the device enumeration bug
[02:58] <SurfnKid> look at me
[02:58] <Jenkens> sladen: yeah I found some stuff on ubuntuforums.. I don't know that I saw that one specifically?
[02:58] <doormouse> can someone please advise me? I can't get any sound from my soundblaster. I've been following the guide at  ubuntuguide.org/wiki/dapper
[02:59] <doormouse> and when i lspci i have Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs [SB Live! Value]  EMU10k1X
[02:59] <sladen> Jenkens: https://launchpad.net/bugs/6367
[02:59] <dash\> is there an easy way to edit the server list in X-Chat?
[02:59] <doormouse> the error i get with xmms is that either a codec is missing or the soundcard is not released.. any advise?
[02:59] <UKMatt> can someone send me a link on how to install .tar.gz, I lost it and cant remember how
[03:00] <userundefine> dash\, yeah... use the New and Edit buttons
[03:00] <eKSeR> xnull- : look at this page for ur question http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203093&highlight=bootsplash
[03:00] <LjL> UKMatt: you don't "install" a .tar.gz, you simply extract it. it's an archive, similar to a ZIP file. "tar xf filename" will extract it
[03:00] <Jenkens> sladen: hrm, none of that seems super specific to my problem..
[03:01] <dash\> I mean like clearing the whole list [or a majority of it]  without manually removing each entry?
[03:01] <maagimies> doormouse, is the module snd_emu10k1 loaded?
[03:01] <userundefine> dash\, ah, probably in ~/.xchat.  I'm not sure exactly where xchat stores its lists, probably in there
[03:01] <UKMatt> LjL, ya, i know its like that, but its a program and there was a site that whenever I got one i'd run though, and I cant remember how I did it
[03:01] <spades> dash\ there is a  servlist_.conf in .xchat
[03:02] <UKMatt> ljL, the problem is putting it through terminal since i need sudo rights to save in program files
[03:02] <taotime> #fluxbox
[03:02] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm dual-booting 64-bit Dapper and Windows XP, and I want to install 32-bit Dapper.  Besides the unimaginable pain of getting Wireless and Printing to work again, what trouble should I anticipate?  How should I go about doing this?
[03:02] <SinnerG> there :)
[03:02] <xnull-> back, also how can I put a graphical boot menu ? on grub
[03:02] <SinnerG> Kubuntu :p
[03:02] <doormouse> maagimies - thx, i'm very new to this, can't see it in the lspci list..
[03:02] <doormouse> checking the device manager
[03:03] <sladen> Jenkens: what happens if you boot in (recovery mode)
[03:03] <maagimies> doormouse, private conv
[03:03] <Jenkens> sladen: let me check
[03:03] <sladen> Jenkens: remove the 'quiet' and 'splash' options from the boot line
[03:03] <Jenkens> sladen: loading..
[03:03] <doormouse>  sure, just got to figure out how...  (i'm in terminal.. :|
[03:03] <eternaljoy> ToHellWithGA: , The Lake of fire is where you are going, there you will burn in total agony till you are no more! thats the penalty for rejecting God
[03:04] <Jenkens> ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[03:04] <Jenkens> end_request: I/O error, dev hdb, sector xxxxxxx
[03:04] <ToHellWithGA> eternaljoy: this is not the place
[03:04] <Jenkens> thrice over now
[03:04] <doormouse> private maagimies
[03:05] <eternaljoy> ToHellWithGA: you will reap what you sow.
[03:05] <Jenkens> hdb: media error (bad sector) blah blah.. (but i know this disc works?)
[03:05] <Jenkens> ok.. now i'm at a squashfs message.. maybe it'll keep going
[03:05] <Jenkens> nope.. more media errors
[03:06] <sladen> Jenkens: can you boot with the  Media check option
[03:06] <Jenkens> sladen: alright..
[03:06] <Jenkens> what's that going to do or not do for me
[03:07] <maagimies> doormouse, apparently freenode has removed private messagin from unregged users so let's just continue here :p
[03:07] <arooni> folks
[03:07] <sladen> Jenkens: just because the disk /has/ worked in another machine before, doesn't mean it's still going to work, or in this particular CD drive (which may have less error-checking etc)
[03:07] <arooni> how do i install things like ruby1.8 libmysql-ruby ... etc via synaptic
[03:07] <Jenkens> sladen: agreed. so what's the next step.
[03:07] <arooni> i.e. how do i access synatpictic
[03:07] <Jenkens> arooni: run 'synaptic'
[03:07] <Jenkens> :p
[03:07] <doormouse> thx.. i'll try to sign up... that would explain why gaim aint' letting me in...
[03:08] <no_gatez_fan> can you software raid0 Dapper Drake?
[03:08] <maagimies> doormouse, first put "lsmod | grep snd_emu10k1", and see if the module is loaded
[03:08] <lostwars> wow
[03:08] <dredhammer> hello folks got a question if i format a hardrive under linux will i lose space like i do with the windows file system?
[03:08] <lostwars> ubuntu is better than windoze
[03:08] <doormouse> ok..
[03:09] <lostwars> i'm serious
[03:09] <maagimies> lostwars, depends of the usage, lets not get all linux zealot eh? ;)
[03:09] <lostwars> YOU JUST DONT UNDERSTAND
[03:09] <doormouse> got snd_emu10k1x ... 19364... 0
[03:09] <lostwars> I H8 WINDOZE
[03:09] <maagimies> doormouse, great :D
[03:09] <siriusnova> ubuntu has its uses
[03:09] <LjL> !caps
[03:09] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:09] <siriusnova> :P
[03:09] <userundefine> ubotu rules
[03:09] <sladen> arooni: System->Administration->Package Manager
[03:10] <doormouse> ps: i haven't been able to find the simple button labeled "mute" to check the obvious :\
[03:10] <dle> Hi. What are the 6.06 images called 'alternate'?  E.g. ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso
[03:10] <maagimies> doormouse, well, doubleclick on the volume control applet in the gnome.... I cant remember the word but its on the upper right :p
[03:10] <doormouse> got
[03:11] <sladen> dle: they use the Debian-installer, in text-mode.  They are useful when setting up LVM, RAID, servers, or other special (non-Desktop) requirements
[03:11] <maagimies> doormouse, so now it opened the volume conf windows right? then click edit->preferences or something
[03:11] <doormouse> have 3 devices, selected is nvidia nforce2 alsa mix -
[03:11] <dle> sladen: Ah, thanks!
[03:11] <snoops> anyone have any idea on how to bind mouse buttons to other mouse buttons?
[03:11] <LjL> dle: "the" 6.06 images are not called Alternate. only the, well, the "Alternate" ones are :-)
[03:11] <ToHellWithGA> do yall know if freenode has any anti-harassment policies?
[03:11] <Jenkens> sladen; alright, yeah these i/o errors keep coming so i guess i need an alternative way to get stuff done
[03:11] <doormouse> ok got the preferences open
[03:11] <sladen> maagimies: Right-Click->Preferences
[03:11] <piratepenguin> I can't believe I'm getting unresolved dependency errors with apt :/  I can't install libgnome-desktop-dev "Depends: libgnomeui-dev but it is not going to be installed"  what have I messed up?
[03:11] <LjL> dle: "Desktop" has a graphical installed and can run "live" - "Alternate" has a text-mode installer
[03:11] <sladen> Jenkens: sounds like a duff disk!
[03:11] <ToHellWithGA> i find it very disturbing that eternaljoy ranted christianity at me because he found me in #ubuntu
[03:11] <dle> LjL: tks
[03:11] <Dr4g_> Does ubuntu live-desktop-cd crash for anyone while the CD is loading up the install environment????
[03:11] <Dr4g_> -*
[03:12] <Jenkens> sladen: i think this is the same RW i used to install debian on the laptop last week..
[03:12] <Jenkens> meh
[03:12] <sladen> Dr4g_: how much RAM do you have?
[03:12] <maagimies> doormouse, click Master, PCM, Wave and AC97 to be shown
[03:12] <LjL> ToHellWithGA: that's as offtopic as the rant you're responding to
[03:12] <Jenkens> maybe not
[03:12] <Dr4g_> sladen:: 1GB
[03:12] <sladen> Jenkens: re-writables.  Joy.
[03:12] <Dr4g_> the RAM is fine.. its like the CD is crashing/slowing down
[03:12] <maagimies> i can't understand why it's default in gnome to hide all the tracks but whatever
[03:12] <sladen> Dr4g_: what error message do you see?
[03:12] <Jenkens> i dont suppose there is a netinst for dapper?
[03:13] <sladen> Dr4g_: can you check your CD for errors
[03:13] <sladen> Jenkens: yes, there is.  Look for the "miniiso"
[03:13] <doormouse> hmmm... i have master and pcm.. but no wave and no ac97...
[03:13] <harisund> Hello everyone ! Anyone with experience with FreeNX server on Dapper and FreeNX client on Windows?
[03:13] <Dr4g_> sladen:: i should check the CD for errors
[03:13] <maagimies> doormouse, it's ok, but just check all you can :)
[03:13] <dash\> anybody care to help a nub out with some stuff?
[03:13] <maagimies> doormouse, now check if any of those tracks are muted, they were for me after updates :F
[03:13] <dash\> like how my sound doesn't work
[03:14] <doormouse> found a iec958 playback AC97.. spsa// went with taht
[03:14] <harisund> dash\ what stuff? don't ask if you ask .... just ask :)
[03:14] <dash\> I did :P
[03:14] <Jenkens> i see a kubuntu mini iso?
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> dash\: > alsa
[03:14] <dash\> doesn't mean anything to me no
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !tell dash\ about alsa
[03:14] <dash\> *now
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> do those do the same thing
[03:15] <sladen> harisund: should work find.  If you have an issue, say what you are seeing
[03:15] <doormouse> ok, think we are on the right track, my SB5.1 uses the centre channel as normal headphone output, (i think) anyway, un-muted now
[03:15] <sladen> Jenkens: the whole point of the mini-iso is that it just installs the base and then you   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  or whatever you want after that
[03:16] <Jenkens> sladen: ahh, i dig.
[03:16] <dash\> whats a good media player then?
[03:16] <maagimies> doormouse, so there were channels muted? weird huh, happened to me too, but only after updates :D
[03:16] <Jenkens> sladen: debian "etch" to ubuntu didnt go well ;)
[03:16] <harisund> sladen, I tried following the instructions on the wiki page, but for some reason they seem to be incomplete / missing something. I installed "sudo apt-get install freenx" and everything apparently went fine. I then went to my Windows machine, installed the client and connected to my server, and it said connection completed and nothing happened. Have I missed something?
[03:17] <maagimies> btw doormouse, are you in Gnome or KDE?
[03:17] <doormouse> still no luck, the same error message - check config, check codecs, check that the card is released..
[03:17] <maagimies> doormouse, or something else? :)
[03:17] <kalosaurusrex> !drma
[03:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about drma
[03:17] <kalosaurusrex> !dra
[03:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about dra
[03:17] <doormouse> I am trying to play an mp3 through xmms.. i'll try a cd...
[03:17] <kalosaurusrex> grr
[03:17] <kalosaurusrex> !dv ed
[03:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about dv ed
[03:17] <kalosaurusrex> !dvd
[03:17] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:18] <sladen> Jenkens: I think it may only be 'supported' from sarge -> dapper
[03:18] <maagimies> doormouse, gnome or kde? if gnome, try setting the output of xmms settings to esd
[03:18] <sladen> Jenkens: but unstable -> dapper should be very close;  what didn't work?
[03:18] <Jenkens> sladen: alright, well here goes the mini iso boot
[03:18] <Jenkens> so far so good
[03:18] <Jenkens> yep, in the installer now
[03:18] <sladen> Jenkens: that was quick
[03:18] <maagimies> doormouse, because it's quite rare to get the "soundcard busy" with SB Live because it has hardware mixing :D
[03:18] <Jenkens> sladen: indeed..
[03:19] <Jenkens> 7.4mb iso
[03:19] <Jenkens> :P
[03:19] <doormouse> I am under gnome.. I'll go searching for that "esd" option
[03:19] <Jenkens> retrieving components
[03:19] <doormouse> Ps: sound juicer has no faults.. but still no sound
[03:19] <Jenkens> sladen: thanks for the tip by the way. i had used the debian etch 'business card' iso (30mb) to get etch running.
[03:20] <maagimies> doormouse, does sound juicer play the file like going on with it, but no sound? in that case it's the mixer settings
[03:20] <doormouse> I put a cd in, and soundjuicer came up and could play. nothing in my headphones came out
[03:20] <Jenkens> here goes the format ;)
[03:21] <Jenkens> woowoo
[03:21] <maagimies> doormouse, check from the mixer settings from the input tag, theres the cd option, adjust it's volume and click the speaker below
[03:21] <maagimies> *tab
[03:21] <doormouse> ok, you just lost me - where is the input tag?
[03:21] <abstractism> hey guys
[03:22] <sladen> Jenkens: you can even do it all in one go!  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KubuntuNetboot
[03:22] <abstractism> does gdesklets still have a memory leak?
[03:22] <Jenkens> sladen: how does kubuntu differ from ubuntu, though? KDE? (BLECH!)
[03:22] <sladen> Jenkens: one is Blue, the other is Brown.
[03:22] <doormouse> PS: couldn't find the "esd option in xmms, right clikcked -> preferences... no joy
[03:23] <maagimies> doormouse, when you double click the volume adjuster, you get a window, there's three tabs on top, "Playback, Input, Switches" (not exactly sure about the names, my gnomes not english :)
[03:23] <Jenkens> sladen: alright? i figured kubuntu had kde preloaded where ubuntu had.. what gnome?
[03:23] <doormouse> thanks
[03:23] <Jenkens> meh i guess i can worry about that later
[03:23] <sladen> Jenkens: Ubuntu is the ubuntu core with with a GNOME desktop by default;  Kubuntu is the ubuntu core with a KDE desktop by default
[03:24] <Jenkens> next up i guess is getting repositories set up
[03:24] <maagimies> doormouse, so you found the cd track? :p
[03:24] <sladen> Jenkens: they should be setup in /etc/apt/sources.list for you
[03:24] <Barkley> anyone serve files to apple osx tiger clients? is it worth install netatalk or should i just use nfs?
[03:24] <doormouse> still h unting around... i'm in the right place now :)
[03:25] <Jenkens> sladen: will that get me stuff like mplayer and other items that can't be included in a US cd?
[03:25] <Jenkens> like debian had non-US repositories
[03:25] <doormouse> under my gnome it is playback, capture, switches and options.
[03:25] <doormouse> checked the capture, CD and made sure this wasn't muted
[03:25] <Wegg> Barkley: I just use Samba
[03:26] <Barkley> samba drops certain chars still?
[03:26] <maagimies> doormouse, and master, pcm and wave all are unmuted and with good volume levels?
[03:26] <Jenkens> 35% done with base system
[03:26] <dash\> how can you set permissions [like making them not read-only]  for a folder and all its subfolders/files?
[03:26] <Wegg> my samba server has been running for years. . . I haven't had any issues. . .
[03:26] <doormouse> yep
[03:27] <sladen> Jenkens: enable 'universe' and 'multiverse'  (Free and unsupport;  and non-free and unsupported, respectively)
[03:27] <doormouse> although ; still can't find the wave option on this... :\
[03:27] <maagimies> doormouse, well, is the audio cd playing?
[03:27] <sladen> Jenkens: you'll see them in the sourcesfile, or in Synaptic/Adept
[03:27] <Jenkens> sladen: alright.. :) and 'backports' is newer software that's untested? (odd name for *NEW* stuff?)
[03:28] <Jenkens> 65% done with base
[03:28] <doormouse> according to soundjuicer..and the light is one the CD drive
[03:28] <doormouse> think i might try for a plan b here...  one minute please
[03:29] <sladen> Jenkens: you really don't need backports.  the stable version comes out every 6 months...
[03:29] <Wegg> I just installed 6.06 and . . . I can't get the resolution any higher than 1024x768.  Can anyone help me figure out what I'm doing wrong?
[03:30] <Jenkens> sladen: very well. :) i'll just enable the multiverse stuff and the security repositories
[03:30] <Jenkens> we'll see how I like ubuntu compared to debian/slackware/mandrake/freebsd (since I've run them all at some point)
[03:31] <sladen> Wegg: your monitor is probaby lying about its capabilities, override the refresh rates in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:31] <Alethes> Jenkens:  I switched from fbsd to ubuntu -- that's how impressed I was :)
[03:31] <Jenkens> alethes: FreeBSD is my #1 choice, unfortunatey on this 1GHz laptop compiling ports got old.
[03:31] <Wegg> I added "1280x960"
[03:31] <BHSPitLappy> hi
[03:31] <Jenkens> Alethes: however I still run BSD on a sparc box I have in Colorado
[03:31] <Wegg> but it doesn't show up in the "Screen Resolution Preferences" tool.
[03:32] <BHSPitLappy> is OpenGL known to be buggy on Intel display adapters by default, and can something be done about it?
[03:32] <Alethes> Jenkens:  I dislike how the ports get out of sync -- like if I had kde installed and wanted to update gnome, which might have common deps but just a slightly newer version
[03:32] <sladen> Wegg: we query the Monitor and ask what frequencies it can handle.  The modes are then restricted to those limits to stop the monitor blowing up
[03:32] <Jenkens> Alethes: that's what portupgrade was for..
[03:32] <dash\> how can you set permissions [like making them not read-only]  for a folder and all its subfolders/files?
[03:32] <sladen> Wegg: if the monitor returns incorrect information about its frequency limits, then you will have to override them
[03:32] <Wegg> sladen: well this monitor is capable of quite a bit more. . .
[03:32] <Alethes> Jenkens:  yeah, I just switched to ubuntu :)
[03:32] <Alethes> heh
[03:32] <Jenkens> haha
[03:33] <Alethes> it just works
[03:33] <Jenkens> well whatever works :) hopefully i'll enjoy Ubuntu as well
[03:33] <IdleOne> how do I get Sun java working?
[03:33] <sladen> dash\: chmod -R a+w .
[03:33] <maagimies> wow, i just tried to play an audio cd on my drive and it went totally berserk o_O
[03:33] <maagimies> weird :D
[03:33] <BHSPitLappy> IdleOne, simply install it from the package manager.
[03:33] <jojoman02> IdleOne: do you have ubuntu?
[03:33] <sladen> dash\: chmod -R o+w .    even
[03:33] <SAM_theman> hey people I just got a new sound card how I configure it to work properly in ubutnu 6.06 because it sounds to choopy
[03:33] <jojoman02> IdleOne: do you have dapper?
[03:33] <sladen> dash\: chmod -R u+w .    *sigh*, *sleepy*
[03:34] <IdleOne> jojoman02, and BHSPitLappy I have ubuntu dapper and thank you  for the help
[03:34] <dash\> hehe, thanks
[03:34] <BHSPitLappy> IdleOne, did you find it?
[03:34] <sladen> SAM_theman: choppy?  So it's working, but something is wrong
[03:34] <Jenkens> woot, i'm excited
[03:34] <Jenkens> :D
[03:34] <jojoman02> IdleOne: go to application --> add / remove --> it should be in the list when you search for JAVA
[03:34] <SAM_theman> yeah
[03:34] <sladen> SAM_theman: is something using all your CPU?
[03:34] <IdleOne> BHSPitLappy,  looking now
[03:34] <doormouse> Are you still there Maag?
[03:34] <SAM_theman> no
[03:35] <sladen> maagimies: doormouse
[03:35] <maagimies> doormouse, yeah
[03:35] <SAM_theman> Dude I am ruuning ubutnu 6.06 on a AMD 3800+ X2 and u asking if its choppy?
[03:35] <jojoman02> IdleOne: make sure not to install the Blackdown one by accident
[03:35] <doormouse> ok, just tried all those tips on my other two listed sound devices... no luck
[03:35] <SAM_theman> 1GB ram as well
[03:35] <dash\> I am full of stoopied questions
[03:35] <BHSPitLappy> IdleOne, you might have to fill in the checkboxes for the commercial/unsupported packages before it will appear
[03:35] <dash\> how do you exit the manual?
[03:35] <Jenkens> sladen: here goes first boot
[03:35] <BHSPitLappy> dash\, q
[03:35] <maagimies> doormouse, what app was it again what you used to play the audiocd?
[03:36] <doormouse> I was in soundjuicer
[03:36] <dash\> excellent :P
[03:36] <Jenkens> uhmm
[03:36] <Jenkens> huh
[03:36] <Jenkens> it never asked me for a root password
[03:36] <Jenkens> so now i'm just in a loop here
[03:36] <Jenkens> bah fuggit
[03:37] <arooni> folks...
[03:37] <maagimies> doormouse, so it starts playing the tracks, the current time goes forward and so on, but its silent?
[03:37] <arooni> im not finding all packages that i need
[03:37] <jojoman02> IdleOne: also if you wanna get java working in firefox/mozilla/etc you need to install sun-java5-plugin from synaptic (or apt-get)
[03:37] <BHSPitLappy> hey, when a package in the repo is out-dated, can updated packages be requested?
[03:37] <doormouse> yep, and the cd has a whir if i change track
[03:37] <arooni> i need to get libmysql-ruby
[03:37] <arooni> and i didnt see it in syapitic
[03:37] <Jenkens> i'll use sudo
[03:37] <dash\> how do I set which browser is the default?
[03:38] <jojoman02> does anyone here know a good bit about encoding with Mencoder? like really well... if so msg me... please...
[03:38] <BHSPitLappy> dash\, System > Preferences > Preferred Applications
[03:38] <maagimies> doormouse, it's about the "Wave" track, try to find it in the preferences once more
[03:38] <BHSPitLappy> jojoman02, try #mplayer
[03:38] <mookie> my install of azureus is using java 1.4 even though i have 1.5 installed how do I change this? just remove 1.4?
[03:38] <Sjoerd_> how do I enable perl for a webserver with apache2?
[03:38] <doormouse> I have every option under preferences ticked, no wave there
[03:39] <doormouse> :(
[03:39] <maagimies> :<
[03:39] <maagimies> weird
[03:39] <dredhammer> got a question if i format a hardrive under linux will i lose space like i do with the windows file system?
[03:39] <nickpresta> @Sjoerd: Compile Apache with PERL support
[03:39] <maagimies> it should should show up there o_O
[03:39] <maagimies> Hell, I myself have an SB Live card :D
[03:39] <Sjoerd_> dredhammer: lose space?
[03:39] <Jenkens> woot
[03:39] <nickpresta> or use your package manager to select perl modules
[03:39] <dredhammer> yeah you know if you format a new hardrive or reformat one you lose like 20% of the space
[03:39] <nickpresta> since when?
[03:40] <dredhammer> if it says 100gb you end up with 80
[03:40] <Sjoerd_> what harddrive do you have?
[03:40] <dredhammer> in windows
[03:40] <nickpresta> lol
[03:40] <nickpresta> no way
[03:40] <doormouse> know the feeling :\
[03:40] <Sjoerd_> there is GB and GB
[03:40] <dredhammer> or maybe 86gb
[03:40] <spades> GB and Gib
[03:40] <maagimies> hey doormouse, are you sure you selected the sb live device in the Volume control window when adjusting preferences?
[03:40] <Jenkens> sladen; here goes apt-get -u install ubuntu-desktop :)
[03:40] <dredhammer> i think its the way windows measures stuff
[03:40] <nickpresta> BitTornado > Azureus
[03:40] <nickpresta> >_>
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> dredhammer: Any formatting requires a degree of overhead for tracks and sectors and allocation tables.
[03:40] <maagimies> I just tried the oss-emulating device and it _didnt_ have the Wave track
[03:41] <Sjoerd_> no it's just that the manufactorer gives up a different GB then windows/linux etc. use
[03:41] <dredhammer> i'm wondering if  linux file system does that
[03:41] <nickpresta> there are many filesystems that can be used with Linux
[03:41] <Sjoerd_> it does not have anything to do with the filesystem
[03:41] <SurfnKid> how do i know if the i8k module is loaded in the kernel?
[03:41] <maagimies> btw dredhammer, that spaceloss isn't because of formating, it's because windows creates hidden files you can't even see with the "Show hidden files" options
[03:41] <SurfnKid> do i run lsmod?
[03:41] <doormouse> somedays you just don't win.
[03:42] <dash\> any way to set default programs for specific file types?
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> dredhammer:  20% is an overstatement, not to mention the differences between 1 gig and the real number of useable bits
[03:42] <doormouse> thanks for all your help, i'll have another poke around the web
[03:42] <SurfnKid> dash\: right click file, go to open with
[03:42] <sladen> Jenkens: welcome to modern operating systems, with sudo as standard!
[03:42] <maagimies> doormouse, ok, I hope you figure out that problem :)
[03:42] <dredhammer> well ok 100gb unformated gives ou 92-96 gb formatted with windows
[03:42] <dash\> oh, trick
[03:42] <dash\> y
[03:42] <SurfnKid> sudo rocks
[03:42] <Tonren> Guys, I"m about to repeat an earlier question.  Sorry to all who answered, but I missed everything between then & now due to network trouble
[03:42] <dredhammer> can i expect that from linux?
[03:42] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm dual-booting 64-bit Dapper and Windows XP, and I want to install 32-bit Dapper.  Besides the unimaginable pain of getting Wireless and Printing to work again, what trouble should I anticipate?  How should I go about doing this?
[03:42] <Sjoerd_> there is gigabyte and gibibytezaak
[03:42] <spades> dredhammer 100GB or 100GiB?
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> dredhammer: Any formatting requires a degree of overhead for tracks and sectors and allocation tables.
[03:42] <nickpresta> no way does formatting make you lose 4-6GB of space. no way
[03:42] <SurfnKid> dash\: yeah doesnt always work, i get a few problems running m3u files but works on other files
[03:42] <doormouse> lol, there is always windoze  !! not !!
[03:42] <dredhammer> gigabytes
[03:43] <doormouse> thanks :) later
[03:43] <Sjoerd_> http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=139401 <- read this
[03:43] <Sjoerd_> it explains
[03:43] <sladen> Tonren: a bit of partition and an alternate isntall disk probably
[03:43] <robertj> you can adjust the amount reserved for bad sectors I believe
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> dredhammer: One K is 1024 or 1000 .. It is partly advertising
[03:43] <SurfnKid> Im trying to find out if my Kernel currently has a specific module compiled
[03:43] <SurfnKid> how would i find that out?
[03:43] <Tonren> sladen: Can I have them both point to the same /home partition?  I did make it a separate partition
[03:44] <mada> j0
[03:44] <dredhammer> ok so linux file system uses the 1024 = 1byte?
[03:44] <m0biu5> I am using sound juicer to rip my cd's, and it is making some pretty odd track lengths; anyone have any experience?
[03:44] <dredhammer> like windows
[03:44] <BHSPitLappy> dredhammer, like computers all do.
[03:44] <dredhammer> damn
[03:44] <jturek> hi everybody,  I have sound in GDM but not in gnome.. there is an X over my volume manager and it says no volume control gstreamer plugins installed
[03:44] <mada> dredhammer: uhmmm... yes, but it does node adressing by 4-bytes
[03:44] <jturek> I hear the drums when gdm starts... but when i get into gnome I have no sound
[03:45] <sladen> Tonren: yes, you can
[03:45] <nickpresta> @m0biu5: nope. I've always used KAudioCreator. It works well.
[03:45] <maagimies> jturek, it's your mixer settings
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> dredhammer: No 1 byte is one byte...
[03:45] <jeff303> has anyone else struggled with the nvidia-glx package after upgrading to dapper?
[03:45] <m0biu5> nickpresta, i am trying to stick to gnome.. =/
[03:45] <nickpresta> ah ok
[03:45] <Big_Wolf> i'm trying to install ubuntu on a thinkpad, and the installer crashes every time i get to the keyboard layout selection screen.  does anyone have any idea what is wrong?
[03:45] <dredhammer> now i have to buy a 120gb to use 100 thought i wouldn't run into this with linux, thought it was ms trying to do it 'Their" way like they always do
[03:45] <nickpresta> hmm
[03:45] <Tonren> sladen: cool.  is there a graceful way of uninstalling the 64bit once i'm done with it?  As in, removing it from the Boot Loader, etc.
[03:45] <RadiantFire> jeff303: ask your question
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> dredhammer: It is a problem of semantics..
[03:45] <nickpresta> @m0biu5: what about Grip: http://nostatic.org/grip/
[03:46] <sladen> dredhammer: a gigabyte is a gigabyte.  A billion bytes is something different...
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> exactly
[03:46] <jturek> maagimies, what do i do to change that
[03:46] <jeff303> after upgrading to dapper, using the GUI tool in the update manager, nvidia drivers no longer work... after doing nvidia-xconfig, and restarting x, get garbled video and weird scanlines
[03:46] <Jenkens> hrmmm
[03:46] <maagimies> jturek, double click the volume changer :D
[03:46] <sladen> Tonren: done with it?  if you're going to replace it, then just install over the top of it and keep your existing home directory
[03:47] <jturek> maagimies, duh.. of course i tried that,  and it says no valid volume control gstreamer plugin
[03:47] <Tonren> sladen: There are certain config files I know I don't want to lose, but can't think of to back up at the moment.  But I guess I'll be able to deal with it... should I just point it at the existing partitions and tell it to format?
[03:47] <arooni> does anyone know how to install ruby gems
[03:47] <arooni> into ubuntu?
[03:47] <Jenkens> chittttt, package 422 so far of ubuntu-desktop
[03:47] <Jenkens> haha
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Tonren:  fRESS IS BEST
[03:48] <Tonren> Jack_Sparrow: fRESS?
[03:48] <Mc_cO_By> hi everyone
[03:48] <jturek> what am i doing wrong?
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Tonren: Fresh format is best
[03:48] <Big_Wolf> nobody knows anything about my question?  guess i'll just have to install debian instead then :(
[03:48] <jturek> i know that it detects the audio because gdm plays the drum sound
[03:48] <m0biu5> nickpresta, any other ideas as to why a few tracks would be labelled as 20+ minutes
[03:48] <maagimies> jturek, well, I don't know what to do, I have never gotten that kind of error
[03:48] <jpiccolo> can anyone help me get libsvg-cairo 0.1.6
[03:48] <Tonren> Jack_Sparrow: I figured as much.  :\  All of my config files... FireFox extensions... the LAMP server... ndiswrapper setup... gone.
[03:48] <Mc_cO_By> i have a netwok problem amyone help me about this?
[03:48] <Tonren> Mc_cO_By: What's the prob?
[03:48] <nickpresta> @m0biu5: I don't have any experience with the software you're using so I really don't know. How long are the songs in reality?
[03:49] <Mc_cO_By> i didn't connect to internet
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Tonren: You will save yourself time in the long run not fighting pieces of the old install
[03:49] <BIAF> how do i add my new wirless pci card to the networking?, my modem/lan is found in here but not my wirless, I think my wirless IS found in the device manager area tho
[03:49] <m0biu5> nickpresta, much less than that - if i try to skip forward in rhythmbox, it skips to the next song =/
[03:49] <Tonren> Jack_Sparrow: You are right.  I'm sure keeping my old /var or anything like that would just end up with conflicts between 32 and 64-bit apps
[03:49] <Jenkens> package 473, good god
[03:50] <Tonren> Hey guys, how does XMMS stack up feature-wise against amaroK?
[03:50] <jeff303> Tonren: do you still have access to the partition?  you can back up your mozilla profile and probably the other things too
[03:50] <hawkaloogie> Tonren, imho xmms is antiquated.
[03:50] <nickpresta> I feel that XMMS is similar to WinAMP and AmaroK is similar to iTunes
[03:50] <Tonren> jeff303: I'm on it right now.  I'm burning the 32bit Live CD as we type.  I don't think backing it up will really work, though, now that I think about it, because so many things are specifically written for 64bit.
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Tonren: IUt is just something that can come back and bite you in the /root
[03:50] <Tonren> Jack_Sparrow: Aye, I agree
[03:51] <jeff303> Tonren: stuff in the mozilla profile is?  hmm if that's the case then I dunno sorry
[03:51] <DShepherd> nickpresta: banshee is more like itunes
[03:51] <Tonren> nickpresta: amaroK has been acting pleasingly like WinAmp for me.  It lacks only a little of its functionality, but amaroK is _SO BLOATED_.
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Big_Wolf: You still here?
[03:51] <BIAF> how do i add my new wirless pci card to the networking?
[03:51] <Tonren> nickpresta: Maybe once I go 32-bit, it won't take 12 seconds to boot.
[03:51] <nickpresta> AmaroK takes < 5 seconds to boot for me and I'm running a PoS computer
[03:52] <Jenkens> package 535..
[03:52] <Jenkens> heh
[03:52] <Mc_cO_By> thanx my friends maybe i search my answer another place.again yhanx
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Tonren: You are not going to see much of a difference (Speed Loss)
[03:52] <Tonren> nickpresta: It's probably my 64bit arch.  Everything is fatter now.
[03:52] <Tonren> Jack_Sparrow: I'm just looking for native wine and Flash support
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> AH
[03:53] <arooni> yay! rails installed on ubuntu linux using vmware... happy day!
[03:53] <jeff303> has anyone else experienced garbled video with their nvidia driver after upgrading to dapper, using the nvidia-glx package?
[03:53] <BHSPitLappy> I didn't find wireless to be too bad...
[03:53] <jpiccolo> gar where can i get libsvg-cairo 0.1.6
[03:53] <BHSPitLappy> ^ ignore
[03:53] <BHSPitLappy> wrong tab
[03:53] <h3xis> i have a server running dapper and i just installed an atapi/ide iomega zip drive 100. im wanting to make it a share within samba, and i have done so, but whever i go to access it in windows from another machine i don't seem to have the right permissions to write to it. how can i change this?
[03:54] <nickpresta> @jeff, did you configure your driver?
[03:54] <Jenkens> pkg 617+
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> jeff303: There are some issues with upgrading over fresh install
[03:54] <BHSPitLappy> jeff303, nvidia is A-OK for me, but I didn't upgrade
[03:54] <jeff303> nickpresta: I just installed nvidia-glx, and ran sudo nvidia-xconfig
[03:54] <nickpresta> oh ok
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> nvidia here too 6600 pci-e
[03:54] <BIAF> how do i add my new wirless pci card in action with defailt ubuntu wirless driver
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> jeff what about the kernel modules etc?
[03:55] <jeff303> nv driver works just fine, of course, except no opengl
[03:55] <Jenkens> how the heck do you see what version apt-get is going to install for a specific package?
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> biaf.. Broadcom ?
[03:55] <Big_Wolf> Jack_Sparrow: hey, i'm here
[03:55] <BHSPitLappy> jeff303, opengl works for me
[03:55] <jeff303> BHSPitLappy: well that's bizarre... I do have Load GLX in the xorg.conf
[03:55] <BIAF> Jack : what do i do to make my card seen in networking
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Before you run to Debian and get Ignored in channel, what is your question
[03:55] <jeff303> BHSPitLappy: doesn't work with nv driver for me, for some reason
[03:55] <BHSPitLappy> not sure why
 i'm trying to install ubuntu on a thinkpad, and the installer crashes every time i get to the keyboard layout selection screen.  does anyone have any idea what is wrong?
[03:56] <BHSPitLappy> afk
[03:56] <maagimies> h3xis, make sure the user samba has write permissions to the mountpoint
[03:56] <jeff303> folks who are successfully using opengl and the "nv" driver, please post your xorg.conf somewhere and link
[03:56] <mikere> jeff303: can't you just install nvidia-glx?
[03:56] <h3xis> maagimies, what group would it be under?
[03:57] <jeff303> mikere: I've done that, but when I restart the x server I get garbled video
[03:57] <dash\> any way via command line to open a GUI window?
[03:57] <maagimies> h3xis, ummm, wait a sec
[03:57] <jeff303> dash\: gui window for what?
[03:57] <wildman> dash\: ?
[03:57] <m0biu5> nickpresta, i am using a different pipe now - any ideas on whether or not i can re encode those other mp3s?
[03:57] <mikere> jeff303: ah, bummer =/  Works ok on my lappy go6600
[03:57] <dash\> like file manager
[03:57] <cycom> dash\: you mean run a program in a gui when you're sshed in?
[03:57] <wildman> dash\: just run it?
[03:58] <jeff303> dash\: "nautilus" ?
[03:58] <dash\> if I have a terminal open or something, is there a command I can give to have the active directory open in the GUI?
[03:58] <nickpresta> @m0biu5: You should be able to. give it a try.
[03:58] <h3xis> maagimies, usually a simple chmod 777 <mountpoint> does it, but it's like it's completely ignoring this command
[03:58] <dash\> ah, that works
[03:58] <dash\> thanks
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Big_Wolf: No idea on thinkpad but there is a group just for thinkpad and linux
[03:58] <mikere> dash\: as long as your ssh is configured for x tunneling you should be able to just run it (x tunneling is enabled by default usually)
[03:58] <m0biu5> nickpresta, not sure how to go about doing that - let me read up
[03:58] <jeff303> mikere: no he's just trying to open a nautilus window from a terminal
[03:58] <wildman> mikere: I guess dash\'s on the same system, no ssh...
[03:58] <jeff303> mikere:  nothing about remotely
[03:58] <mikere> jeff303: ah
[03:59] <dash\> right
[03:59] <dash\> I am just a nub, there is the problem :P
[03:59] <maagimies> h3xis, if the permissions are a-ok, then try fiddling with smb.conf :D
[03:59] <eugman> Is NDISWrapper on the live cd or dvd?
[03:59] <wildman> dash\: _that_ never is the problem ;)
[03:59] <Big_Wolf> Jack_Sparrow: a group?
[03:59] <jeff303> dash\: if you want it to open in the current directory you'll want  "nautilus ."
[03:59] <dash\> yep, thanks
[03:59] <Sjoerd_> anyone willing to help me getting perl to work with apache2 webserver?
[03:59] <jeff303> dash\: at least that did it for me
[03:59] <h3xis> maagimies, i already have :( i cant figure out what the deal is, but thanks anyway
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> jeff303:  Join JAck_Sparrow and I will paste my xorg in there.
[03:59] <cycom> dash\: We have all been or still are nubs, so sweat not.  Geeze dude, this isn't #debian ;)
[03:59] <cyphase> woohoo
[04:00] <ruxpin__> dash\: what do you mean?
[04:00] <Sjoerd_> what about your new one?
[04:00] <cyphase> lol
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Big_Wolf: google ubuntu thinkpad
[04:00] <cycom> cyphase: I was really pleased when PCMCIA didn't work on my laptop in 5.10 upgrading to 6.06 made it work. :)
[04:00] <jeff303> Jack_Sparrow: forgive my ignorance but how do I join that channel?  just "/join #Jack_Sparrow"?
[04:00] <doormouse> Maag - you still here ? got it fixed :)
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[04:01] <mikere> What's the command for configuring x once nvidia-glx is installed?  I need to update my xorg.conf with more than 1680x1050 @60hz
[04:01] <maagimies> doormouse, what did you do? :P
[04:01] <eugman> Hey, whats the fastest way to seach my windows partition for a file based on it's name(without picking it's extention)?
[04:01] <jeff303> mikere: the one that *didn't* work for me is "nvidia-xconfig"
[04:01] <wildman> Jack_Sparrow: use pastebin, see topic...
[04:01] <jeff303> mikere:  is that what synaptic says?
[04:02] <Big_Wolf> Jack_Sparrow: ok, thanks
[04:02] <tyser> hi
[04:02] <h3xis> eugman, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, i think?
[04:02] <mikere> jeff303: hehe, makes me worried - I never ran it after installing nvidia-glx, it just started up and worked with native res and i left it at that
[04:02] <jpiccolo> why doesnt synaptic have libsvg-cairo 0.1.6
[04:02] <wildman> mikere: dpkg-reconfigure package_name ?
[04:02] <jeff303> mikere: are you sure you're getting hardware acceleration?  if so I say leave it alone
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> wildman: I know the topic, but I can paste into my own channel.. Check it's topic
[04:02] <h3m4n> how can i permenently add something to my bash path?  i've added it in .pash_profile, but it never shows up in xubuntu
[04:02] <doormouse> it was an xmms option, the output plugin was pointing at the wrong mixer, my SB mixer was labelled MPU401-UART; once i selected this all my ouput jacks became visible as audio devices
[04:03] <eugman> H3xis, wrong question. Reconfiging my xorg will NOT find me a file in my windows partition.
[04:03] <maagimies> doormouse, cool :D
[04:03] <mikere> jeff303: xorg.conf says I'm using nvidia-glx
[04:03] <spades> eugman find /path/to/win -name *search*  so the wildcard will find it w/o needing the extension
[04:03] <maagimies> doormouse, btw, remember to run "sudo alsactl store" so your mixer settings will be the same when you reboot :D
[04:03] <doormouse> Thanks for all your time - Now i have music to listen too while i try to get everything up and running :)
[04:03] <jeff303> mikere:  sounds good then
[04:03] <doormouse> cya :)
[04:03] <m0biu5> anyone know how to re-encode mp3s ripped with sound juicer if you change your pipeline
[04:03] <doormouse> Will do !! right now !
[04:04] <eugman> Spades, so sreach is the hypothetical fine name?
[04:04] <spades> yes
[04:04] <jeff303> mikere: I say if you can run glxgears or whatever at fast speeds then you're good
[04:04] <eugman> er search
[04:04] <eugman> y k
[04:04] <wildman> oups... Konversation just crashed...
[04:04] <spades> eugman ie: find /mnt/win -name *dsc*
[04:04] <doormouse> later :)
[04:05] <maagimies> doormouse, bye o/
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> wildman: My nick is registered thanks
[04:05] <mikere> jeff303: I seem to recall glxgears used to give a printout of fps - any idea how to get it to do that?
[04:05] <spikeb> glxgears -printfps
[04:05] <wildman> mikere: glxinfo | grep "vendor string", if you see ur card's manufacturer name, u shuold have 3D accel enabled
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> jeff303: I got 500fps with std install of nvidia , following the wiki it went to 4500
[04:06] <fowlduck> !glxgears
[04:06] <ubotu> To display the FPS in glxgears, run 'glxgears -printfps' in a terminal.
[04:06] <mikere> wildman: yep, it's there
[04:06] <_jacky_> will edgy use freetype 2.2.x?
[04:06] <jeff303> Jack_Sparrow: which wiki page are you talking about?
[04:06] <fowlduck> !glxgears @ Mika_i_
[04:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about glxgears @ Mika_i_
[04:06] <fowlduck> !glxgears @ mikere
[04:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about glxgears @ mikere
[04:06] <wildman> mikere: well... all should be set then :)
[04:06] <fowlduck> dfkjdsfjsdf
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !tell jeff303 about nvidia
[04:06] <newbuntu> can anyone send me the little drum file used for the login?
[04:07] <mikere> meh, 3500 fps.  Spose that's ok
[04:08] <aXanaXa> Hey guys can someone tell me how to deny all connections from Chinese IP space?
[04:08] <jpiccolo> how do you see what you fps are with glxgears
[04:08] <Sjoerd_> How do I enable perl for a webserver running apache2 ?
[04:08] <_jacky_> aXanaXa, why do you want to do that
[04:08] <phrizer> "120 frames in 7.5 seconds = 15.897 FPS
[04:08] <phrizer> "
[04:08] <mikere> jpiccolo: glxgears -printfps
[04:08] <phrizer> yay me.
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> phrizer:   Peddle faster...
[04:09] <wildman> phrizer: leave it running a few secs to have 'stable' readings, while the rest of the system is idle :)
[04:09] <tmccrary> Can anyone here recommend a bluetooth adapter that works well in ubuntu (preferably USB based)
[04:09] <aXanaXa> _jacky_, why wouldn't I want to do that?
[04:09] <jpiccolo> 86723 frames in 5.0 seconds = 17344.447 FPS  ----is that good
[04:09] <phrizer> wildman, it goes from around 15fps to about 5fps if i'm lucky.
[04:09] <phrizer> 50*
[04:09] <wildman> Sjoerd_: won't just installing the needed pkg and restarting apache2 do it?
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> jpiccolo:  Wow
[04:09] <_jacky_> aXanaXa, can you give me some reason?
[04:09] <fowlduck> Sjoerd_, man a2enmod
[04:09] <tmccrary> http://www.bluetake.com/products/BT007Si.htm
[04:10] <Sjoerd_> wildman: Not until now..
[04:10] <mikere> Sjoerd_: Bet you have to change something in apache.conf, but you might try #perl for a better answer =)
[04:10] <tmccrary> hahahaha, "Windows Compatibled"
[04:10] <jpiccolo> well i guess so
[04:10] <tmccrary> Yep, that's a good way of putting it
[04:10] <aXanaXa> _jacky_, I have no reason for any communication from any machines in China.  Many many attacks and spam originate from compromised machines there and I might as well block all of it.
[04:10] <tmccrary> Kind of like how Apple got "Windows Compatibled" back in the day
[04:10] <wildman> Sjoerd_: strange... that's the way things worked with Mandriva, still didn't play that much with ubuntu's apache, sorry.
[04:11] <jpiccolo> anybody get kde installed on drapper amd64?
[04:11] <fowlduck> Sjoerd_, man a2enmod
[04:11] <_jacky_> aXanaXa, only China?
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> aXanaXa: You shouldnt have any trouble ... You are a new Linux user?
[04:11] <aXanaXa> _jacky_ mainly right now.  Actually all of Asia too
[04:11] <phrizer> if anyone has any ideas on how to get hardware acceleration going on a SiS
[04:11] <phrizer> 630/730 onboard graphics card. I'd be interested.
[04:11] <fraroco> hello every body.
[04:12] <fraroco> How can I install Xine?
[04:12] <aXanaXa> Jack_Sparrow no I am not and I added them all to my hosts.deny file
[04:12] <_jacky_> aXanaXa, cut you net cable is ok
[04:12] <wildman> phrizer: ah... that explains ur FPS ;)
[04:12] <fraroco> I wanna see a DVD and VCD on my PC
[04:12] <mikere> fraroco: did you try sudo apt-get install xine?
[04:12] <phrizer> wildman, yeah it sucks. heh.
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[04:12] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:12] <patrickj> how again do i upgrade to ubuntu 6.06 from 5.10, Ive added the dapper repos :P
[04:12] <newbuntu> so no-one has the login wav? i seem to have misplaced mine? the drums? dcc?
[04:12] <wildman> fraroco: sudo apt-get install xine ?
[04:12] <tmccrary> sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[04:13] <tmccrary> gstreamer is horrible and will be for the next year or two probably
[04:13] <fraroco> wildman: the termianl said it can not find this pack
[04:13] <tmccrary> xine is pretty mature
[04:13] <aXanaXa> _jacky_, I am curious as to why you would not want to add that IP space if you are not doing business with China or need to have communications with them?
[04:13] <fowlduck> aXanaXa, call your ISP and let them know you're gettng attacked and to block those IPs
[04:13] <RadiantFire> tmccrary: it does most things well, just not so hot on DVD navigation
[04:13] <arooni> folks i have a router that my a windows box is connected to.. and 2) my laptop which has ubuntu linux running thru vmware.  i would like to access a shared directory on the windows computer fom ubuntu, but i have no idea on how to do this... ideas?
[04:13] <aXanaXa> fowlduck, I am not being attacked
[04:13] <patrickj> any ideas on how to upgrade?
[04:13] <patrickj> !upgrade
[04:13] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[04:13] <klees> how can i grant sudo access to xhost?
[04:13] <wildman> fraroco: not sure if it's on the 'standard' repos, cehck URLs given above by ubotu
[04:13] <timalot> question... i am running breezy , why should i upgrade to dapper?
[04:14] <fraroco> wildman:  so
[04:14] <fraroco> ?
[04:14] <tmccrary> RadientFire: I have it do all kinds of "interesting" things, the frame rate drops sometimes, audio goes in and out, it crashes totem probabnly 25% of the time on files that don't crash in totem-xine. gstreamer is not ready for the desktop yet.
[04:14] <fowlduck> timalot, it's way better
[04:14] <klees> meaning if i do a sudo <command> i can get a gtk app running under my user
[04:14] <tmccrary> timalot: breezy was good, dapper is waaay, waaay better
[04:14] <aXanaXa> timalot, driver support is much better in my opinion
[04:14] <patrickj> is it "sudo apt-get upgrade" ?
[04:14] <timalot> but anything specific... ok drivers
[04:15] <spades> patrickj dist-upgrade
[04:15] <patrickj> okay
[04:15] <fowlduck> timalot, graphically, functionally, package-availability
[04:15] <wildman> fraroco: so what? :)
[04:15] <aXanaXa> but I am a long time (since 1998) Debian users so I can't speak much to ubuntu's addons
[04:15] <mikere> tmccrary: do you use kaffeine at all?  It works fairly well for me in the past
[04:15] <timalot> i guess it has firefox 1.5 ?
[04:15] <patrickj> spades: thanks, and now we wait.. :P
[04:16] <timalot> the thing is they are still using gnome 2.8 tho
[04:16] <wildman> fraroco: Jack_Sparrow run a command above giving you a lot of URLs to check regarding multimedia stuff...
[04:16] <wildman> !restricted
[04:16] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:16] <patrickj> timalot: you talking about sarge?
[04:16] <spades> timalot if it aint broke dont fix it? if you have no reason, then dont, wait for a reason :)
[04:16] <wildman> fraroco: and I've just run it again, check the URLs ubotu just printed above
[04:16] <timalot> sorry gtk 2.8
[04:17] <maagimies> :<
[04:17] <patrickj> how do i restore the gnome logo, from the ubuntu logo ?
[04:17] <maagimies> My dapper just froze on me :'(
[04:17] <patrickj> I prefer the foot :P
[04:17] <wildman> fraroco: I'm sure u'll find all the info you need there to be able to enjoy all your movies and music, and the likes
[04:18] <wildman> gotta disconnect for a while, back l8r... or tomorrow
[04:18] <timalot> thanks spades... yeah it aint broke yet
[04:18] <wildman> enjoy!
[04:18] <spades> timalot then wait for a reason, no one has a gun to your head :P
[04:19] <fowlduck> patrickj, cp /path/ubuntulogo.png /path/ubuntulogobackup.png; cp /path/footlogo.png /path/ubuntulogo.png
[04:19] <ideogram> how do I benchmark my 3d acceleration?
[04:19] <ardchoille> patrickj: http://natsci.eckerd.edu/~bordelsr/gnomehelp/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Ubuntu.ChangeMenuIcon
[04:19] <fowlduck> patrickj, crude, but it works
[04:19] <aXanaXa> So can anyone tell me any better way to deny all connections from an IP space to a machine other than using hosts.deny?  And I mean other than blocking them at the router level as this slows down my routers traversing through the ACLs.
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> ideogram: You mean like fps in glxgears
[04:20] <ideogram> yes exactly
[04:20] <jeff303> ok I followed the directions on the wiki, and get the same garbled video problem with nvidia
[04:20] <ideogram> how do I get fps count out of glxgears
[04:20] <spades> aXanaXa you can use iptables to deny connections but you'd need the ip ranges
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> go to term glxgears - -printfps
[04:20] <timalot> aXanaXa, iptables
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> one -
[04:20] <timalot> yeah what he said
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry sleepy fingers
[04:21] <patrickj> also
[04:21] <patrickj> you know when you install gnome on any other distro, there is an link to the "computer" and the home directory
[04:21] <patrickj> how do I get those on?
[04:21] <ideogram> I'm getting about 1250 FPS sustained, is that reasonable?
[04:21] <ardchoille> Jack_Sparrow: time for a nap.. or coffee?
[04:21] <ardchoille> lol
[04:21] <jeff303> patrickj: are they not under "Places"
[04:21] <fowlduck> patrickj, it's somewhere in settings
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Fireworks then bed
[04:22] <aXanaXa> spades thats no problem, they are all listed 21x.x.x.x, do you think that would be a better way that hosts.deny though?  As far as overhead?
[04:22] <patrickj> jeff303: yeh, I want them on the desktop too
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> ideogram: what is your hardware, getting 4500 here nvidia 660
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> 6600
[04:22] <jeff303> patrickj: dragging them worked for me
[04:22] <ideogram> i have a 6600GT
[04:22] <ideogram> but I'm running dual monitors at 2048x1536
[04:22] <ideogram> and I resized the window
[04:23] <bobgreen5s> partickj: gconf-editor goto apps-->nautilus-->desktop
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> ideo
[04:23] <patrickj> jeff303: never thought of that LOL
[04:23] <bobgreen5s> check whatever you want visible
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia
[04:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:23] <IdleOne> jojoman02, I installed java via apt-get and it still isnt working. any ideas?
[04:23] <ideogram> ok i left the window at the default size and I'm getting abhout 6000FPS
[04:23] <spades> aXanaXa is hosts.deny something webserver specific? i think it would be better for iptables to deny ranges than to have the webserver do it
[04:24] <dash\> ideogram :: loan me some fps then?
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> ideogram: You are good to go
[04:24] <ideogram> cool
[04:24] <ideogram> heh
[04:24] <dash\> I could use a few more
[04:24] <jeff303> yeah I followed the exact instructions on that wiki page and still got the problem  :-/
[04:24] <ideogram> I need them all to play Half-Life 2
[04:25] <aXanaXa> spades no hosts.deny is the opposite of your hosts.allow file
[04:25] <lufis> Can someone tell me what --with-x does?
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> jeff303: use pastebin for your xorg
[04:25] <esasse> is this channel also for beginners in linux?
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> YEs
[04:25] <IdleOne> esasse, yyup
[04:25] <dash\> does GAIM allow snapping-to windows?
[04:26] <max_nooby_noob> Hi guys. I'm trying to dl a file to my /home folder and nothing happens.
[04:26] <spades> aXanaXa your guess is as good as mine =/
[04:26] <Evilscientist> so is anyone here running an ubuntu server as a domain?
[04:26] <spades> i dont really knwo
[04:26] <esasse> ok then.. I have just installed Ubuntu and created 3 users. now I want to have a folder with all our music with acces to everyone. where is the best place to put this folder?
[04:26] <lufis> max_nooby_noob: does the file begin with a period?
[04:26] <max_nooby_noob> something about permission?
[04:26] <max_nooby_noob> No: LimeWireLinux.rpm
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> esasse: Desktop perhaps
[04:27] <IdleOne> need some help getting Sun java working. I installed java with apt-get restarted firefox and java still isnt working. what is my next step?
[04:27] <Tarantulafudge> esasse, it doesn't matter where you put it
[04:27] <pppoe_dude> esasse, doesn't really matter...
[04:27] <maagimies> esasse, something like /home/shared, but i'm not sure if everybody agrees
[04:27] <jeff303> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17210
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[04:27] <pppoe_dude> esasse, /music, /usr/music, w/e
[04:27] <Tarantulafudge> esasse, personally /media fits the profile :P
[04:28] <Jenkens> how do i get rid of the splash screen on bootup?
[04:28] <esasse> thanks! :)
[04:28] <jeff303> Jack_Sparrow: actually this is wrong
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> jeff303: line 101 change it to "nvidia"
[04:28] <jeff303> Jack_Sparrow: this is after reconfiguring it to use nv
[04:28] <jeff303> Jack_Sparrow: yeeah
[04:28] <max_nooby_noob> I'm only trying to save the file to home because of what someone said in a forum: You need to download limewire to your home folder-not the desk top or it will not register when you go to use alien do this by going to the toolbar in firefox
[04:28] <Eric2> How do I cd to a smb:// location?
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Not NV.. that is what hung me out to dry
[04:29] <timalot> Eric2, u cant
[04:29] <pppoe_dude> max_nooby_noob, why are you downloading limewire?
[04:29] <jeff303> Jack_Sparrow: ok I'm gonna restart x
[04:29] <Eric2> timalot: damn, can I mount it as a network drive then and cd to it?
[04:29] <timalot> yes
[04:29] <max_nooby_noob> because that's the only p2p player I know how to use?
[04:29] <pppoe_dude> max_nooby_noob, there's gtk-gnutella
[04:29] <Eric2> timalot: know the command by chance?
[04:30] <pppoe_dude> max_nooby_noob, it's pretty straight forward and installs more cleanly
[04:30] <esasse> is there any default shortcut to open a shell window?
[04:30] <max_nooby_noob> ok thanks. I'll try that
[04:30] <max_nooby_noob> synaptic?
[04:30] <pppoe_dude> max_nooby_noob, theres also frostwire which aims to be an opensource limewire
[04:30] <pppoe_dude> max_nooby_noob, yep
[04:30] <dash\> I just installed Ubuntu earlier today, and ran apt-get update a bit ago, but my GUI is telling me I have some 160 items needed to upgrade, is that normal?
[04:30] <timalot> smbmount //windoze.host/share place_to_mount ...
[04:30] <max_nooby_noob> which of the two is "better"?
[04:30] <Gareth> Eric2, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_network_folders_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read.2Fwrite
[04:30] <Jack_Sparrow> dash yes
[04:30] <Eric2> timalot: thanks a buch!! Appreciate it
[04:31] <dash\> shall I update them then?
[04:31] <maagimies> dash\, "update" just updates the package lists, "upgrade" gets the new packages ;)
[04:31] <Gareth> dash\, yes - most of those are small updates
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[04:31] <pppoe_dude> max_nooby_noob, i havent tried frostwire... gtk-gnutella has served me well for years... so can't complain
[04:31] <max_nooby_noob> ok, I'll give it a whirl
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Guys and gals, I am fading fast... see ya all tomorrow
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Hope Jeff gets back soon
[04:32] <dash\> night Jack
[04:32] <juztin> in kde, how do you add applications to your applications menu?
[04:32] <Eric2> gareth: thanks dude
[04:33] <Gareth> no problem Eric2, I just discovered the page myself (note if you scroll down it gives you a way to do it automatically with fstab)
[04:33] <jeff303> Jack_Sparrow: ok same problem
[04:33] <maagimies> juztin, right click the k-menu and edit away ;)
[04:33] <Eric2> ^_^
[04:33] <jeff303> Jack_Sparrow: garbled video after loading the nvidia driver, so I had to reconfigure to nv
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Ok, did you do the kernel-restricted-modules as well?
[04:33] <ewood> I have Dapper Drake on an original iMac with 96 MB RAM. I love having a modern OS that runs on this.
[04:33] <juztin> maagimies, thanks! :D
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Wow
[04:34] <dash\> I am rather newish to linux, and I have a game I have been trying to play.  It says it needs libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3, which, as far as I can tell, doesn't exist.  Can anybody tell me what I am doing wrong, or perhaps what to do right?
[04:34] <jeff303> Jack_Sparrow: yes when I installed nvidia-glx from synaptic it prompted for that dependency, and I did install them
[04:35] <farky> You know what fixes a lot of things?
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> jeff303:  Just trying to figure out where it all went wrong for you.. Frankly... too tired to be any good
[04:35] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm installing Dapper 32bit over an existing 64bit installation... Right now my NTFS partition is 60 GB and my /home partition is only 10 GB.  I'd like to change that to 30 and 40GB, respectively, but I... like... can't.
[04:35] <jeff303> Jack_Sparrow: well thanks for your suggestion anyhow, and the help
[04:35] <maagimies> dash\, would "libstdc++6" be the package you want?
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> np goodnight all.
[04:35] <Teqonix> Hmm.. Does Dapper (Server Ed) require a swap partition? Because I don't see an option to let me set this partition as one.
[04:35] <dash\> maagimies :: thats what I was asking, I don't know
[04:36] <fraroco> How can I install Xine?
[04:36] <fraroco> I wanna see a DVD and VCD on my PC
[04:37] <Healot> !info xine-ui
[04:37] <ubotu> xine-ui: the xine video player, user interface. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1567 kB, installed size 3512 kB
[04:37] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[04:37] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[04:37] <timalot> dash\, the pacakge libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 seems to contain the file u want
[04:38] <Jenkens> hrm alright
[04:38] <dash\> timalot :: thanks
[04:38] <Jenkens> how would i go about changing my default window manager in 6.06? I cannot seem to find this in the wiki
[04:38] <max_nooby_noob> pppoe: I'm trying to figure out where gtk-gnutella saves downloaded files. Can u give me a hand please
[04:39] <IdleOne> after installing sun java do i need to point firefox to the new version?
[04:41] <max_nooby_noob> I dl'd a file but can't find it :(
[04:41] <IdleOne> max_nooby_noob, probably on the desktop
[04:41] <IdleOne> or do a locate filename in terminal
[04:42] <GardenGnome_> hi - i'm trying to install mame, but it doesn't show up in synaptic, and it can't be found using apt-get.  i have the universal and multiverse repositories in my config..  help?
[04:42] <fraroco> How can I install Xine?
[04:42] <fraroco> I wanna see a DVD and VCD on my PC
[04:42] <charle97> frarco, use synaptic
[04:42] <fraroco> How can I install Xine? I wanna see a DVD and VCD on my PC
[04:42] <max_nooby_noob> found it, thanks
[04:42] <max_nooby_noob> :(
[04:43] <fraroco> charle97: yeah and how..
[04:43] <ewood> max_nooby_noob, how about vlc?
[04:43] <bcron> Applications - System - Synaptic and type xine on the search
[04:43] <ewood> That app rocks the house
[04:43] <charle97> !sources.list
[04:43] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:43] <fraroco> charle97: what do I need to download?
[04:43] <GardenGnome_> fraroco: you might want to look into automatix.
[04:43] <LjL> GardenGnome_: you're possibly looking for the "xmame-x" package
[04:44] <max_nooby_noob> vlc?
[04:44] <LjL> !automatix
[04:44] <bobgreen5s> !glxgears
[04:44] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[04:44] <ubotu> To display the FPS in glxgears, run 'glxgears -printfps' in a terminal.
[04:44] <charle97> fraroco, just choose xine and synaptic will take care of the dependencies
[04:44] <maagimies> fraroco, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs totem-xine
[04:44] <max_nooby_noob> is totem the better mp3 playe?
[04:44] <max_nooby_noob> player?
[04:44] <Cornellius> Is E17 stable ?
[04:44] <charle97> max, i like amarok
[04:44] <maagimies> max_nooby_noob, I think it excels better as a movie player then a mp3 one :)
[04:45] <timalot> max_nooby_noob, i like Rhythmbox
[04:45] <farky> Cornellius: its still in beta i think
[04:45] <max_nooby_noob> I just d-clicked the mp3 file and it automatically loaded in totem
[04:45] <maagimies> and amarok roxxors my sockors so to speak
[04:45] <IdleOne> can somebody please help me with java?
[04:45] <GardenGnome_> LjL:  yes, i've looked up the names on ubuntuforums, and have searched for them explicitly, but also for mame and xmame.  nothing.
[04:45] <fraroco> maagimies: it said " operation invalid"
[04:45] <farky> Cornellius: just use the alpha versions of firefox
[04:45] <maagimies> :F
[04:45] <auge02> yes i can help you on java
[04:46] <LjL> GardenGnome_: "mame" and "xmame" don't exist, but "xmame-x" does, as well as a few others. it's in multiverse. if you don't have it, then you don't really have multiverse enabled
[04:46] <IdleOne> auge02, i installed java with apt-get but it still isnt working
[04:46] <Cornellius> farky: ... Do you know what e17 is ?
[04:46] <maagimies> fraroco, weird, it works for me
[04:46] <GardenGnome_> e.g., xmame-sdl, xmame-vga, xmame-gl, etc.
[04:46] <farky> Cornellius: my bad, thought it said IE7
[04:46] <maagimies> fraroco, have you got the universe and multiverse repos activated?
[04:46] <auge02> and the java path?
[04:47] <IdleOne> auge02, java path?
[04:47] <IdleOne> what do you mean>?
[04:47] <fraroco> maagimies: I do not know that.
[04:47] <auge02> variable JAVAHOME and outher classpath?
[04:47] <max_nooby_noob> I'm so close to deserting XP
[04:47] <ttyfscker> so how is 6.06 compared to 5.10?  ive been using debian "testing" for a while.. just wondering if it would be beneficial to slap on ubuntu 6.06 when i get my cds in from shipit, or if you all might prefer "etch" over 6.06
[04:47] <GardenGnome_> LjL:  i'm inclined to believe it's not enabled, however, my .config file and the repositories section of synaptic show them as enabled.
[04:48] <LjL> GardenGnome_: please use the pastebin to post your /etc/apt/sources.list - i think your multiverse is not correctly enabled. also, try "sudo apt-get update" if you haven't already
[04:48] <farky> max_nooby_noob, same here i just need ventrilo and good game support
[04:48] <IdleOne> auge02, I dont understand what you are talkingabout
[04:48] <farky> max_nooby_noob: a "native" ventrilo
[04:48] <max_nooby_noob> I need a framemaker equivalent and good game support and I think I'm out.
[04:48] <LjL> GardenGnome_: does it show the multiverse of repository "dapper" enabled, or the multiverse of repository "dapper-updates" and/or "dapper-security"?
[04:48] <auge02> give me 5 min please
[04:48] <fraroco> maagimies: how can I make it?
[04:48] <IdleOne> auge02, ok
[04:49] <timalot> IdleOne, what happens when u type java at the bash prompt
[04:49] <max_nooby_noob> Actually, I'm trying Scribus (as a Framemaker equiv)
[04:49] <ttyfscker> also is there any known issues with =>2.6.15 and udev =>0.93?
[04:49] <ewood> ttyfscker, why not let apt-get update you to 6.06?
[04:49] <max_nooby_noob> how about sync'ing files?
[04:49] <ttyfscker> ewood, from debian?
[04:49] <whiter> hello i need a little help
[04:49] <ttyfscker> ewood, that wouldnt be too wise
[04:49] <farky> max_nooby_noob: what's framemaker?
[04:49] <whiter> i did a server install and then i did "apt-get install gnome-desktop"
[04:49] <max_nooby_noob> desktop publishing app
[04:49] <charle97> fraroco, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:49] <ewood> I guess. The update application gave me the option, and I took it. It was on a fresh-install system, but it turned out perfect.
[04:49] <max_nooby_noob> = Adobe
[04:50] <whiter> and i suppose it all installed... but now i cant "startx" because X11 isnt installed so does anyone know how to install X11 ?
[04:50] <IdleOne> timalot, I get a list of options
[04:50] <whiter> because apparently it didnt get installed along with gnome-desktop
[04:50] <timalot> so its going then
[04:50] <ttyfscker> whiter,  sudo apt-get install xorg
[04:50] <whiter> alrighty
[04:50] <charle97> fraroco, you'll need to uncomment some lines
[04:50] <whiter> brb gotta close irssi to do it
[04:50] <farky> max_nooby_noob: oh, have you used cedega?
[04:50] <maagimies> has anyone here having their Dapper lock up few times a day?
[04:50] <maagimies> it really bogs me :E
[04:50] <max_nooby_noob> no
[04:50] <david_> hi, i have recently burned the version of ubuntu 6.06, but i think its the cds that i have, because i cant get them to work, at all.. so, i have been trying to upgrade my ubuntu without a cd, but while trying to run this command: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, i get this error: "E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often
[04:50] <david_> bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option.
[04:50] <david_> E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs" can anybody help?
[04:50] <ttyfscker> whiter u can ctrl alt F2
[04:50] <max_nooby_noob> better than scribus?
[04:50] <charle97> maagimies, no
[04:51] <maagimies> :<
[04:51] <ttyfscker> and to get back its ctrl alt F1
[04:51] <auge02> make a query please
[04:51] <klees> is there a way to have a background for the font on the desktop icons
[04:51] <klees> ??
[04:51] <maagimies> well I guess I'm alone then apart from few forum members :(
[04:51] <fraroco> charle97:  I need make what??
[04:51] <GardenGnome_> LjL: im not familiar with pastebin.  it shows dapper-security and dapper-backports multiverse
[04:52] <LjL> GardenGnome_: it should also show dapper multiverse
[04:52] <LjL> !pastebin
[04:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:52] <charle97> david, have you tried commenting out lines in your sources.list that look for your drive
[04:52] <Hivemind> Hey everybody!
[04:52] <farky> max_nooby_noob: no it's for windows game support, but it takes a subscription. there is the CVS version of it but it doesnt have the same support
[04:52] <whiter> "apt-get install xorg" doesnt work at whoever told me to do that...
[04:52] <spades> whiter try xserver-xorg
[04:52] <timalot> IdleOne, do you want the java web browser plugin?
[04:52] <whiter> ok
[04:53] <max_nooby_noob> farky: cool
[04:53] <IdleOne> timalot, yes i believe I do...want to be able to play games on pogo
[04:53] <GardenGnome_> LjL:  thanks for the help, I'll look a little closer at the repositories.
[04:53] <david_> i havent commented anything out... i would paste it and show what it says, but i know i just wrote a very long message, dont want to keep doing it :)
[04:53] <farky> !cedega
[04:53] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[04:53] <fraroco> How can I install Xine? I wanna see a DVD and VCD on my PC
[04:53] <fraroco> How can I install Xine? I wanna see a DVD and VCD on my PC
[04:53] <fraroco> How can I install Xine? I wanna see a DVD and VCD on my PC
[04:53] <leonza99> join #gusla
[04:53] <fraroco> How can I install mplayer? I wanna see a DVD and VCD on my PC
[04:53] <bcron> wow
[04:53] <charle97> david, comment out the lines that look for your drive
[04:53] <farky> fraroco: callm down
[04:53] <fraroco> farky:  so help me?
[04:53] <bcron> I spelled it out a long time ago fraroco
[04:54] <IdleOne> fraroco, patience
[04:54] <farky> !xine
[04:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about xine
[04:54] <david_> thanks
[04:54] <auge02> ?
[04:54] <PacketScan> hahahaha
[04:54] <bcron> fraroco: Applications - System - Synaptic and type xine on the search
[04:54] <IdleOne> fraroco, sudo apt-get install xine
[04:54] <Tonren> Hey guys, if I'm in GParted and I copy a partition, then delete the original, will that work?
[04:54] <Tom7e> how do you empty the trash from terminal?
[04:55] <fraroco> IdleOne: I have tried it at long tiem and It does not work
[04:55] <Hivemind> I'm in a bit of a pickle. I installed Ubuntu via the alternate CD (The LiveCD installer was too big, screen resolution issues) and I keep getting Error 18 in GRUB.  That is, my boot sector(?) is too big.
[04:55] <Hivemind> How do I fix this? ('m rather new)
[04:56] <IdleOne> fraroco, what error do you get?
[04:56] <spades> Hivemind how big is your harddrive?
[04:56] <Hivemind> 80GB (I'm installing Ubuntu onto the second one, hdb)
[04:56] <spades> how big is that one?
[04:56] <fraroco> IdleOne: I wiil paste it in a privated messange
[04:56] <Hivemind> 80GB.
[04:56] <charle97> fraroco, you'll probably need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file to activate the required repositories
[04:57] <IdleOne> !tell fraroco about repos
[04:57] <Tom7e> how do you load the trash in nautilus from prompt?
[04:57] <spades> hmm, i know when i do debian installs on 250gb drive i need to make a 100mb /boot partition to get around that grub error, maybe try that?
[04:57] <spades> Tom7e cd into ~/.Trash or .trash and rm *
[04:58] <Hivemind> spades: M'kay. Manual partitioning then?
[04:58] <spades> Hivemind yea =/
[04:59] <IdleOne> timalot, you still there?
[04:59] <max_nooby_noob> is there a special program for sync'ing files on an xp laptop and ubuntu desktop?
[04:59] <timalot> IdleOne, yeah hold on
[04:59] <IdleOne> timalot, k :)
[04:59] <Jenkens> how do i change my window manager, sorry to ask again? did I miss it
[04:59] <ardchoille> Jenkens: you using gnome?
[05:00] <Hivemind> Well, I'm going to learn how to do that. Thanks a lot spades.
[05:00] <Jenkens> ardchoille: currently in a shell, so n.
[05:00] <Jenkens> er, no.
[05:00] <spades> Hivemind the manualr partition isnt hard
[05:00] <Hivemind> spades, good to know.
[05:01] <ardchoille> Jenkens: I changed my window manager in gnome from Metacity to openbox, here's a link I followed.. it may help you: http://natsci.eckerd.edu/~bordelsr/gnomehelp/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Ubuntu.ChangeMenuIcon
[05:01] <Jenkens> ardchoille: i dont think that is the right link? that's just a link to change an icon?
[05:01] <timalot> IdleOne, ok do u have the /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7 directory?
[05:01] <Freyja> #php
[05:01] <ardchoille> Jenkens: sorry, that was the wrong URL. Try this one: http://natsci.eckerd.edu/~bordelsr/gnomehelp/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Gnome212.WindowManager
[05:01] <orcdestroyer> welll... I was trying to load my motherboard /lib/modules/2.4.31/kernel/drivers/net/sk98lin.o.gz
[05:02] <orcdestroyer> and show up some error... why didn't load?  /sbin/modprobe sk98lin
[05:02] <IdleOne> timalot, how do i check ?
[05:02] <timalot> IdleOne, in the command line type ls /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7
[05:02] <ardchoille> Jenkens: that method has worked for me with several different window managers
[05:02] <SurfnKid> !lm-sensors
[05:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about lm-sensors
[05:03] <IdleOne> timalot, no I dont have that
[05:04] <timalot> IdleOne, type whereis java
[05:04] <Jenkens> ardchoille: interesting..
[05:04] <SurfnKid> artichokes?
[05:04] <SurfnKid> yum
[05:04] <IdleOne> timalot,  whereis java
[05:04] <IdleOne> java: /usr/bin/java /etc/java /usr/bin/X11/java /usr/share/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz
[05:04] <max_nooby_noob> How does one make an app like rhythmbox the default appfor playing mp3s?
[05:05] <Freyja> #azarug
[05:05] <timalot> IdleOne, hahah .. no in the bash command prompt
[05:05] <IdleOne> bash command prompt
[05:05] <IdleOne> ?
[05:05] <edgy> Hi, awstats in dapper has a cron entry of: 0,10,20,30,40,50 * * * * www-data [ -x /usr/lib/cgi-bin/awstats.pl -a -f /etc/awstats/awstats.conf -a -r /var/log/apache2/access.log ]  && /usr/lib/cgi-bin/awstats.pl -config=awstats -update >/dev/null. How www-data user is supposed to read access.log file which is readable only by root or adm?
[05:06] <timalot> IdleOne, in the terminal
[05:06] <auge02> java -classpath ... bla.java
[05:06] <IdleOne> timalot, I did and the second part was the output
[05:06] <timalot> ok now type ls -l /usr/bin/java
[05:07] <max_nooby_noob> nm, figured it out
[05:07] <Tonren> Hey guys, idiot check:
[05:07] <Tonren> Any reason not to make my /home partition FAT32?
[05:07] <lurker99>  edgy: what group is www-data in?
[05:07] <necrite> hi all
[05:08] <ttyfscker> timalot, what are you trying to do?
[05:08] <auge02> group ww-data
[05:08] <IdleOne> timalot, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2006-03-05 10:49 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java
[05:08] <edgy> lurker99: only www-data group as far as I can tell
[05:08] <timalot> IdleOne, ok now ls -l /etc/alternatives/java
[05:09] <IdleOne> timalot, /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java
[05:09] <ttyfscker> IdleOne,  if your trying to install java 5.0 you should just get the .bin installer from sun's website
[05:09] <timalot> ttyfscker, trying to find where java is installed
[05:09] <timalot> IdleOne,  ok no cd /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/
[05:09] <timalot> now
[05:09] <ttyfscker> and then when you get it installed cp  the install directory from where you installed
[05:09] <ttyfscker> like if you extracted the bin from your home directory
[05:09] <necrite> i have problems to run gnome apps with las stable ubuntu and xgl
[05:09] <IdleOne> timalot, ok
[05:10] <timalot> IdleOne, now just ls
[05:10] <ttyfscker> you would just do cp /home/yourname/jre-versionthatsthere  /usr/java
[05:10] <derek> How do I install tar.gz files on ubuntu?
[05:10] <derek> !tar.gz
[05:10] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)
[05:10] <ttyfscker> but be sure that you mkdir /usr/java first
[05:10] <dash\> alright, xmms sucks, whats better?
[05:10] <IdleOne> timalot, bin      COPYRIGHT  javaws  LICENSE  plugin  THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.txt
[05:10] <IdleOne> CHANGES  debian     lib     man      README  Welcome.html
[05:10] <derek> !noob
[05:10] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[05:10] <ttyfscker> dash\, beepmediaplayer is gtk2 based version of xmms
[05:10] <derek> boov
[05:10] <derek> noov
[05:11] <derek> sorry, brother was on the computer
[05:11] <derek> noob
[05:11] <LiteHedded> !samba
[05:11] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:11] <derek> !samba
[05:11] <PetrolBomb> Anyone know a util to unpack PBP files
[05:11] <derek> !lol
[05:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about lol
[05:11] <IdleOne> !op
[05:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about op
[05:11] <derek> !lol
[05:11] <ttyfscker> IdleOne, a lot of stuff wont run right unless you have the official JRE from the webpage in /usr/java or /opt/java
[05:11] <IdleOne> !ops
[05:11] <derek> !os
[05:11] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[05:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about os
[05:11] <ttyfscker> that means debs dont count
[05:11] <ttyfscker> for instance frostwire wont run on debian's jre version
[05:11] <derek> !gnomefreak
[05:11] <timalot> IdleOne, type find -name plugin
[05:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about gnomefreak
[05:11] <derek> !frostwire
[05:12] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:12] <ttyfscker> derek why dont you shut the fuck up
[05:12] <fowlduck> !language
[05:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:12] <juztin> in kde, how do i make it so double-clicking the title bar scroll the window up instead of maximizing?
[05:12] <max_nooby_noob> Does ubuntu need more memory than xp to run flawlessly or is the choppy element a matter of my vid card (Radeon 9800 256M)
[05:12] <martin> hello - I have a quick question about 6.06 and smp. I know older releases of ubuntu had -smp kernels, but I can't see any information on smp in 6.06 - is the smp module part of the standard k8 kernel?
[05:12] <cappicard> I hate it when my first name gets said  and xchat flashes my window...
[05:12] <IdleOne> timalot, in ./plugin I have i386
[05:12] <derek> cappicard
[05:13] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: ???
[05:13] <edgy> lurker99: may be I need just to remove the username from the file or replace it with root? any problem in this?
[05:13] <IdleOne> gnomefreak,  :)
[05:13] <timalot> IdleOne, ok i didnt see that b4, go into ./plugin/i386
[05:13] <spades> gnomefreak scroll up, bot abuse
[05:13] <cappicard> Derek just happens to be my first real name.
[05:13] <timalot> IdleOne,  cd ./plugin/i386 , then ls
[05:13] <xxyyzz> Can you get iTunes for Ubuntu?
[05:14] <IdleOne> timalot, I have ns7 and ns7-gcc29
[05:14] <necrite> mmm any ide why i cant run any gnome apps witk ubuntu deeper
[05:14] <timalot> IdleOne,  ok now type cd ns7
[05:14] <martin> does anyone know about the k8 kernel and smp?
[05:15] <xxyyzz> Does Ubuntu come with a program that plays mp3s? Or is it possible to get one for free? Where should I look for more information?
[05:15] <IdleOne> timalot, libjavaplugin_oji.so
[05:15] <Gareth> in what regard martin?
[05:15] <martin> xxyyzz: xmms, or amarok are popular choices
[05:15] <charle97> !restricted formats
[05:15] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: now watch your language
[05:15] <timalot> IdleOne,  ok then ln -s `pwd`/libjavaplugin_oji.so ~/.mozilla/plugins
[05:15] <Teqonix> Uh-oh.. 'The security updates on security.ubuntu.com couldn't be accessed.'
[05:15] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:15] <xxyyzz> martin, cool thanks, do they come with it, or do I have to download them?
[05:15] <Teqonix> What?
[05:15] <martin> gareth: is the -k8 kernel smp enabled?
[05:15] <ttyfscker> alright gnomefreak
[05:16] <charle97> !mp3
[05:16] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:16] <martin> xxyyzz:you can get them with apt-get
[05:16] <IdleOne> timalot, ok done
[05:16] <ttyfscker> IdleOne,  ok im back.. ill help you get java
[05:16] <timalot> IdleOne, to check type ls -l .moziila/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[05:16] <narg> is there a problem with nvidia drivers and the newest i686 kernel?
[05:16] <ttyfscker> you need the binary install version for a lot of apps to run right
[05:16] <lurker99> edgy: i would have expected the package install to take care of the perms.  if i was hacking, i'd probably add the www-data to the adm  group.  but i'm not a SME...
[05:16] <Gareth> martin, yeah - the precompiled one available via apt/synaptic is SMP enabled
[05:17] <dash\> where can I find equalizer presets for media players like beep?
[05:17] <martin> xxyyzz: amarok needs gstreamer for mp3's
[05:17] <IdleOne> timalot, ls: .moziila/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so: No such file or directory
[05:17] <martin> gareth: but not on the 6.06 live cd?
[05:17] <ttyfscker> IdleOne,  do a locate java
[05:17] <xxyyzz> martin, how would I find out if I have gstreamer? is it standard with ubuntu, or do you have to apt-get it?
[05:17] <ttyfscker> and it will output a lot
[05:17] <charle97> martin, amarok need libxine-extracodecs
[05:17] <ttyfscker> but look for /usr/lib/jvm  in that
[05:17] <ttyfscker> and see if you have that
[05:17] <timalot> IdleOne, sorry its type ls -l ~/.moziila/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[05:18] <Gareth> martin, good question - to be honest, I'm not sure as that is the amd64 generic rather than the k8
[05:18] <charle97> xxyyzz, use the search in synaptic
[05:18] <ttyfscker> timalot,  they might be in /usr/lib/mozilla  /usr/lib/firefox  or /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[05:18] <martin> xxyyzz: run these commands for amarok.....
[05:18] <beerfan> anyone know of a better graphics program than Krita? (i.e., doesn't require kde
[05:18] <martin> xxyyzz: sudo apt-get install amarok
[05:18] <martin> xxyyxx: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly libxine-extracodecs
[05:18] <fowlduck> beerfan, blender?  or gimp?  what kind of graphics?
[05:19] <martin> gareth: it reports -k8 rather than generic
[05:19] <xxyyzz> Oh okay
[05:19] <beerfan> fowlduck, just simple graphics. gimp is seriously gimped imo :-)
[05:19] <xxyyzz> apt-get has a lot of stuff in it... is there a list of all the stuff I can find somewhere?
[05:19] <maagimies> beerfan, tuxpaint is the best ;P
[05:19] <xxyyzz> It would be good if the list had categories...
[05:19] <xxyyzz> Like "mp3 players" and "movie players", etc.
[05:19] <maagimies> xxyyzz, synaptic? :D
[05:19] <charle97> xxyyzz, use synaptic
[05:19] <xxyyzz> maagimies, other than synaptic... I find it hard to use =/
[05:19] <martin> xxyyzz - you can search apt using apt-cache search <package>
[05:19] <narg> adept?
[05:19] <xxyyzz> If I have to use synaptic I guess I can learn it.
[05:19] <IdleOne> timalot, /home/idleone/.mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[05:19] <ardchoille> beerfan: I have made some pretty sophisticated graphics in the gimp.. I found that one just needs to learn to use gimp
[05:20] <xxyyzz> martin: so apt-cache search * <- will list all packages?
[05:20] <charle97> synaptic is simple to use
[05:20] <fowlduck> beerfan, tuxpaint, kpaint?
[05:20] <Gareth> martin, try running uname -v
[05:20] <fowlduck> beerfan, karbon14?
[05:20] <bh4tw> hi, is there any tutorial for making an ubuntu box a wireless access point?
[05:20] <timalot> IdleOne, ok , restart firefox, then type about:plugins in the location bar
[05:20] <Gareth> if it's smp enabled it should say "SMP PREEMPT"
[05:20] <maagimies> hmm, you really can't get any simpler then tuxpaint
[05:20] <beerfan> ardchoille, I won't dispute gimps power. I just can stand it.
[05:20] <martin> xxyyzz: I'm not sure - there are a *lot* of packages!
[05:20] <ardchoille> beerfan: ahh, fair enough
[05:20] <fowlduck> beerfan, inkscape
[05:20] <fowlduck> beerfan, go search on sourceforge.net
[05:20] <beerfan> fowlduck, wow, thanks for all the names
[05:21] <xxyyzz> Is there a manual on synaptic somewhere?
[05:21] <fowlduck> beerfan, no problem :)
[05:21] <ardchoille> fowlduck: indeed, good job :)
[05:21] <beerfan> lots I never heard of
[05:21] <timalot> IdleOne, u should see Java(TM) Plug-in  there... if so it's already to go
[05:21] <edgy> lurker99: I guess to give www-data more powerful permission is a security risk but I can't tell to which extent
[05:21] <martin> gareth: "#1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:39:18 UTC 2006"
[05:21] <Gareth> martin, then you're good to go for SMP
[05:21] <maagimies> well xxyyzz, star synaptic and press F1 :)
[05:22] <charle97> start*
[05:22] <ttyfscker> IdleOne,  it shouldnt have to be listed in your firefox's about:plugins to work though..   firefox calls the java exec from its default locations.. and it doesnt put them in the plugins directory all the time... some people wonder why they have java when they dont have the plugin in their default plugins directory cuz of that
[05:22] <Shigun> Can I get some assistance?  I'm having some weird problem with my computer freezing
[05:22] <xxyyzz> maagimies, thank you!
[05:22] <beerfan> fowlduck, I guess a lot of those are kde apps
[05:22] <xxyyzz> I am still learning ubuntu
[05:22] <xxyyzz> And you guys are very helpful :-)
[05:22] <fowlduck> beerfan, i'm in kde, was just spouting what I knew
[05:23] <hey560> lmao @ ttyfsker
[05:23] <martin> gareth: thanks buddy.... wasn't entirely sure. I've got both processors working, but that doesn't necessarily mean SMP, does it?
[05:23] <hey560> what a nick
[05:23] <ardchoille> xxyyzz: This is the best channel on freenode, IMHO :)
[05:23] <beerfan> fowlduck, np. I tried out krita but it doesn't seem to integrate with gnome very well so I figured all kde apps don't
[05:23] <xxyyzz> ardchoille, they keep me coming back =-)
[05:23] <Gareth> martin, how do you know you have both procs going?
[05:23] <martin> gareth: I mean, it's not necessarily pushing individual threads of a single ap to different CPUs...
[05:23] <xxyyzz> I'll probably keep coming back 'til I learn all of linux.
[05:23] <xxyyzz> But that will never happen, heh
[05:23] <SurfnKid> hi
[05:23] <ardchoille> xxyyzz: that's the plan ;)
[05:24] <martin> gareth: I've got conky set up, graphing cpu1 and cpu2
[05:24] <fowlduck> beerfan, yeah, integration is the key word.  They work well in gnome, just don't integrate so well
[05:24] <timalot> ttyfscker, for the plugin to work it has to be in about:plugins
[05:24] <patrickj> Im working on a wallpaper and i need a nice huge transparent ubuntu logo
[05:24] <patrickj> got one?
[05:24] <ttyfscker> timalot, no it dont... if its in /usr/java/j*  or /opt/java/* it will work with firefox
[05:24] <charle97> martin, what's the code you use to graph cpu1 and cpu2?
[05:24] <Shigun> Anybody?  These freezing issue is making me doubt Ubuntu.  Never had it with Gentoo or Winblows, and I have no clue whats causing it
[05:24] <IdleOne> timalot, thank you  for your help it is working now...you should add to the wiki page :)
[05:24] <ttyfscker> if the java executable is there that is
[05:25] <martin> charle97 - what, in the .conkyrc?
[05:25] <timalot> IdleOne, np... i might do that
[05:25] <charle97> martin, yea .. . i could never get that to work
[05:25] <Gareth> martin, does the graph show them being basically unrelated to eachother?  they're not displaying the same usage or anything, I'm guessing - you'd probably pick up on that
[05:26] <martin> charle97: ${color}CPU1:${color white} ${cpu cpu1}%
[05:26] <martin> ${cpugraph cpu1 40,275 000000 7f8ed3}
[05:26] <martin> ${color}CPU2:${color white} ${cpu cpu2}%
[05:26] <martin> ${cpugraph cpu2 40,275 000000 7f8ed3}
[05:26] <patrickj> anyone?
[05:26] <ewood> Shigun, what is the issue exactly?
[05:26] <martin> martin - sorry about the flood, I should have put that on one line
[05:26] <ewood> Shigun, your computer just pauses periodically?
[05:26] <charle97> martin, thanks ... i'll try right now
[05:26] <Shigun> ewood: My computer hard freezes.  Its only happened since I have installed Ubuntu, usually happens once or more a day, requires me to reboot my computer
[05:26] <ardchoille> patrickj: there are a few pages of Ubuntu logos in the wiki
[05:27] <patrickj> kk, thanks
[05:27] <maagimies> Shigun, join the club, now theres you AND me :D
[05:27] <martin> gareth: yeah, they are both different. I originally had one showing both - and one showing a single cpu - If I remember, cpu0 reports on both processors at the same time
[05:27] <martin> gareth: although each one is stuck up on 100% at the moment as they are both crunching numbers for f@h
[05:27] <bloc76> anyone running ubuntu on a production server?
[05:27] <ewood> Shigun: Oh, that doth suck.. I have a Mac Mini that developed an annoying problem of pausing periodically - whether I'm browsing the web, playing media or playing a game. The behaviour is the same and very annoying. It began with that under either Ubuntu or Fedora Core.
[05:27] <Shigun> maagimies: Making me seriously want to reconsider Ubuntu, cause i've *never* had this issue
[05:27] <Gareth> martin, sounds fancy - I think I'm going to have to go dual core when intel's conroe chips hit
[05:28] <martin> if only I could afford dual core opterons.... :/
[05:28] <Shigun> ewood: How did you solve it, or did you?
[05:28] <maagimies> although my machine freezing reminds me of a old nvidia bug, because my mouse cursor still works
[05:28] <fowlduck> beerfan, you there?
[05:28] <beerfan> fowlduck, yeah still here
[05:28] <Gareth> ah, what are you running now?  there's probably not much difference, especially if you overclock a bit martin
[05:28] <RememberPOL> I did something to break esd... :-|
[05:28] <fowlduck> beerfan, http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove_list.php?form_cat=106
[05:28] <Shigun> martin: They are nice.  I have a Opteron 165.  But, I dont think Ubuntu is using mine properly, even though I have installed an SMP kernel (the k7)
[05:28] <maagimies> Shigun, maybe you should try disabling RenderAccell, I'm trying in in a minute
[05:28] <Shigun> maagimies: Mine doesnt, the entire thing freezes
[05:28] <robertj> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/08/Feng_Qiu_Huang.ogg <- check that video out
[05:29] <martin> gareth: I'm running 248's
[05:29] <ewood> Shigun: Yeah, I have an original iMac running Ubuntu in its place at the moment :P I don't know what's wrong with that Mini. Your computer acts like a PC that I have, though. It hard freezes right off within XP, and I haven't tried a different OS on it so far.
[05:29] <maagimies> wow
[05:29] <timalot> RememberPOL, thats not hard :)
[05:29] <martin> 2 248s on a tyan K8WE
[05:29] <Gareth> Shigun, aren't opterons k8?
[05:29] <fowlduck> beerfan, in sourceforge it's all their graphcis editors.  It may take some digging but you'll find some good stuff
[05:29] <Shigun> Gareth: Yea, but there isnt a k8 kernel
[05:29] <patrickj> ardchoille: hmm, there are no direct ubuntu logos, mostly edubuntu and kubuntu/xubuntu
[05:29] <beerfan> fowlduck, thanks much
[05:29] <Shigun> Gareth: Used those from synaptic
[05:29] <martin> shigun - there is - mine is... hold on
[05:29] <Shigun> martin: Oh really now
[05:29] <Gareth> eh? I'm running k8 Shigun
[05:30] <Teqonix> Oh, absolutely wonderful. GRUB tries to boot Ubuntu, my monitor goes wacky, then the computer reboots.
[05:30] <dallas> hello
[05:30] <dli> Shigun, k8 is amd64
[05:30] <RememberPOL> timalot: I thought it might have had something to do with me installing jack, but I completely removed the jack package and esd still doesn't work! :(... when I run "esd" in the console... it auto-exits with no output.
[05:30] <Teqonix> Why in the name..
[05:30] <ardchoille> patrickj: hold on, lemme see what I can find..
[05:30] <martin> shigun: 2.6.15-25-amd64-k8
[05:30] <Shigun> dli: Ah ya, there, im running a 32bit Ubuntu
[05:30] <arooni-linux> oh shit... i hit 'delete panel' on the start bar type thing on the top right
[05:30] <arooni-linux> how do i get it back
[05:30] <Gareth> ah yeah right dli, I guess he wants 32 bit
[05:30] <maagimies> be back in a minute
[05:30] <martin> shigun: that's just from the latest 6.06 live dvd
[05:30] <dli> Shigun, then, you can run k7 or build your own kernel for k8
[05:30] <Shigun> I have considered 64 bit, but im afraid of compatibility
[05:30] <orcdestroyer> how can I install the shockwave in linux ?
[05:30] <martin> shigun: ah - that makes sense then. do you have reason to stay 32bit>?
[05:31] <timalot> RememberPOL, is there at /tmp/,esd* file ?
[05:31] <orcdestroyer> is that possible?
[05:31] <timalot> RememberPOL, is there at /tmp/.esd* file ?
[05:31] <dallas> could someone tell me how to open a file managment window that has root access
[05:31] <arooni-linux> folks...? do you know how to get the start-bar type panel at the top of the screen back?  i'm feeling very vulnteraable
[05:31] <dallas> please
[05:31] <naknomik> Is there a program to resize NTFS partition on Ubuntu live CD?
[05:31] <javierss> dallas
[05:31] <dli> dallas, gksu nautlius
[05:31] <Shigun> martin: Did the 64bit in Gentoo, but there were many things that I preferred to have, like flash in Firefox
[05:31] <RememberPOL> timalot: Nope.
[05:31] <ardchoille> patrickj: this link has several diff kinds and sizes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official?highlight=%28artwork%29
[05:31] <dli> dallas, gksudo
[05:31] <dallas> thanks
[05:31] <javierss> dallas sudo nautilus
[05:32] <javierss> dallas . or get install automatix
[05:32] <martin> shigun - I'm only a week or so old in ubuntu, but flash is about the only thing I havent yet tackled
[05:32] <orcdestroyer> anyone can help me ?
[05:32] <orcdestroyer> how can I install the shockwave linux ?
[05:32] <javierss> orcdestroyer
[05:32] <charle97> martin, sweet it works ... i never could figure out the correct syntax
[05:32] <maagimies> orcdestroyer, install windows version of firefox with wine, and you can
[05:32] <maagimies> I do it with flash player :P
[05:32] <arooni-linux> folks...? do you know how to get the start-bar type panel at the top of the screen back?  i'm feeling very vulnterable
[05:32] <RememberPOL> timalot: Maybe it has something to do with me installing a KDE package? (kolourpaint)
[05:32] <javierss> orcdestroyer
[05:32] <arooni-linux> vulnerable
[05:32] <javierss> whit apt-get
[05:32] <Shigun> martin: Will either have to do a chroot into a 32bit environment, install win FF, or go without
[05:32] <naknomik> Can I resize NTFS partition using ubuntu?
[05:32] <Teqonix> Wonderful, I have no idea what's wrong with this. GRUB tries to start Ubuntu, then the machine just reboots.
[05:33] <Gareth> naknomik, yes - use gparted (gksudo apt-get install gparted)
[05:33] <Gareth> note that you should defrag the partition before shrinking it (as you might lose data otherwise)
[05:33] <ZhangZhong> could any one tell me if there are some tuitions about how I can rebuild my kernel especially on Ubuntu 6.06?
[05:33] <martin> charle97: cool. I'm quite proud of my .conkyrc - it's reporting amarok information, and folding at home information too - if you're using either, it might make a nice addition ? :)
[05:33] <timalot> RememberPOL, well i am no expert but u could try and reinstall the pacakge with esd in it... u can find which one provide thes exe at packages.ubuntu.com
[05:33] <dallas> jacierss, what is install automatix?
[05:33] <RememberPOL> timalot: Yeah I did that :-/
[05:34] <orcdestroyer> javierss ?
[05:34] <RememberPOL> the libesd-alsa thing
[05:34] <martin> charle97 - sorry, spent a few hours fiddling with it - don't worry, you're probably not interested :p
[05:34] <arooni-linux> can someone please tell me how i get teh start bar type panel at the top going?
[05:34] <RememberPOL> arooni-linux: Rightclick on any other panel and hit New Panel
[05:34] <Gareth> thanks for the pointer towards conky martin, I've been looking for something like this
[05:34] <fowlduck> beerfan, more goodness, but some overlap.  I think this seems higher-qualty: http://freshmeat.net/browse/108/
[05:34] <martin> shigun - other than not tackling that, I've had virtually no problems
[05:34] <ljlolel> i love ubuntu
[05:35] <ZhangZhong> could any one tell me if there are some tuitions about how I can rebuild my kernel especially on Ubuntu 6.06?
[05:35] <Teqonix> I might give it a chance if it didn't reboot my machine upong GRUB loading it..
[05:35] <martin> gareth: no  problem - it's very handy - and you can do an awful lot with it
[05:35] <Eric2> I've been trying the past hour or two and I can't mount //Laura/Downloads to a local directory in Ubuntu 6.06, any ideas?
[05:36] <Jenkens> hrm
[05:36] <Shigun> martin: Maybe I should actually bump up to the 64 bit.  Do I need to completely reinstall Ubuntu, or what?
[05:36] <martin> shigun - skype (which I unfortunately have to use) runs through linux32, but that was a doddle nonetheless
[05:36] <charle97> martin, sorry, i was admiring the new cpu graphs.... can see that amarok code?
[05:36] <Jenkens> apache + libapache-mod-ssl doesn't give me ssl.. even if i add a 443 listen port...
[05:36] <Shigun> martin: How exactly did you accomplish that?
[05:37] <timalot> RememberPOL, what does esd --help give u?
[05:37] <Eric2> anyone here by chance have the fstab to a smbfs?
[05:37] <kaot> Eric2: I used to know how to do this.... :P  mount -t smbfs -o username=<username, password=<password>, '\\box\share\' /mnt/point i think
[05:37] <martin> shigun: I don't think I am best placed to answer that question - I went straight to 64 bit - someone with more ubuntu experience would know a lot better than me
[05:37] <kaot> Eric2: I did this all the time a few years ago but all the boxes I had set up that way are dead :(
[05:37] <ZhangZhong> could any one tell me if there are some tuitions about how I can rebuild my kernel especially on Ubuntu 6.06?
[05:37] <martin> what is the best way to exchange code snippets through xchat, anyone?
[05:37] <Eric2> kaot: I'm on the live cd, mount -t is supposed to work but it's f0rking up on me, thanks though, I'll see if it does anything ^_^
[05:37] <Shigun> martin: Now way to explain how you got skype running?  And, use pastebin
[05:38] <charle97> martin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:38] <RememberPOL> timalot: The normal output with two devices listed at bottom (just like when esd did work)
[05:38] <kaot> Eric2: error?
[05:38] <Sjoerd_> How to get sendmail working on ubuntu? It doesn't seem to be in /usr/lib/ where it should be....
[05:38] <martin> charle97 - yeah, they're nice - not my work, I found them on t'net somewhere and adapted
[05:38] <Eric2> kaot: 1 second, yeah error
[05:38] <charle97> martin, that's cool
[05:38] <martin> shigun - hang on a sec, there was a simple howto for it somewhere....
[05:38] <Shigun> martin: Alright
[05:38] <RememberPOL> pol@pol-laptop:/tmp$ esd -d hw:0
[05:38] <RememberPOL> - using device hw:0
[05:39] <martin> charle97 - I'll pastebin the various bits of code in a sec
[05:39] <Eric2> kaot: check your pm
[05:39] <ardchoille> martin: you can always set up your own channel and use it for exchanging code snippets
[05:39] <RememberPOL> timalot: What do you get if you do esd -d hw:0 ?
[05:39] <martin> shigun: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77069
[05:40] <martin> shigun: I just followed that
[05:40] <timalot> RememberPOL,  esd: Esound sound daemon already running ...
[05:40] <martin> shigun: and everything, including voice, worked "out of the box"
[05:40] <RememberPOL> gah
[05:40] <ttyfscker> is e17 as hard to get working on ubuntu as it is on debian?
[05:40] <martin> ardchoille: thanks - I think for now I'll use pastebin - it's late here. well, late is an understatement. it's too hot to sleep though, tomorrow is going to be rough
[05:41] <ardchoille> martin: ahh, ok
[05:41] <timalot> RememberPOL, u could try: strace -e trace=file esd    , to see what files its trying to open
[05:42] <kaot> Eric2: do what now?  got nuffin.  pastebin it?
[05:42] <beerfan> Is it possible to make kde apps use the gnome/metacity theme?
[05:42] <Shigun> Can anybody tell me if its possible to upgrade to amd64 directly?
[05:42] <SurfnKid> guys how do i know if a specific module
[05:42] <beerfan> I should say gtk theme but I guess that's silly
[05:42] <SurfnKid> has already been compiled in the kernel i have?
[05:42] <RememberPOL> timalot: http://rafb.net/paste/results/HgwHiz81.html
[05:42] <SurfnKid> is there a page to check the current loaded modules in my version
[05:42] <jorgeu> asking today again: how do i change my locales in order to drop UTF-8 locales? note: "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't do it anymore (ubuntu 6)
[05:43] <beerfan> Is it possible to change the theme which kde apps use, without having kde?
[05:43] <maagimies> beerfan, no, but you can try to seek a kde theme that mostly resembles your gnome theme :)
[05:43] <beerfan> maagimies, how would I change the theme?
[05:43] <SurfnKid> !kernel
[05:43] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:43] <maagimies> beerfan, now _that_ I don't have answer to if you want to do it without kcontrol
[05:43] <timalot> RememberPOL, ok lookin
[05:43] <Eric2> kaot: IRC didn't send it to you?
[05:44] <Eric2> kaot: maybe it thought it was a flood
[05:44] <Eric2> kaot: 1 sec
[05:44] <narg> What package provides mysql.h?
[05:44] <RememberPOL> timalot: Any idea what /etc/ld.so.nohwcap is?
[05:44] <kaot> Eric2: dunno mang.
[05:44] <Teqonix> Well, as much as I want LAMP, apparently Ubuntu isn't going to work. Ugh.
[05:44] <ardchoille> beerfan: have a look at this: http://natsci.eckerd.edu/~bordelsr/gnomehelp/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Gnome212.GnomeInOtherWM
[05:44] <jojoman02> IdleOne: did u get your problem resolved?
[05:44] <ardchoille> beerfan: I was told it is similar to change kde theme without having kcontrol
[05:44] <jorgeu> asking today again: how do i change my locales in order to drop UTF-8 locales? note: "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't do it anymore (ubuntu 6)
[05:45] <beerfan> ardchoille, thanks I'll check it out
[05:45] <Eric2> kaot: http://pastebin.ca/79251
[05:45] <jorgeu> narg: check the "*-dev" packages related to mysql
[05:45] <ardchoille> beerfan: you're welcome :)
[05:45] <narg> There are many of them, and I have nfc which one I want
[05:45] <jorgeu> nathanj: sudo apt-get install mysql-dev
[05:45] <martin> charle97: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17214
[05:46] <jorgeu> narg: sudo apt-get install mysql-dev
[05:46] <charle97> martin, thanks
[05:46] <ljlolel> does edgy have xgl yet?  I just saw novell's screencast... amazing
[05:46] <narg> it gives a package replaced error, the one it is replaced with is something I have installed
[05:46] <Shigun> Anybody?  Possible to upgrade to AMD64 from 32bit Ubuntu?
[05:47] <ardchoille> if edgy does have xgl, that's the first thing I'll uninstall
[05:47] <jorgeu> asking today again: how do i change my locales in order to drop UTF-8 locales? note: "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't do it anymore (ubuntu 6)
[05:47] <ljlolel> Shigun: You can install the 64-bit kernel
[05:47] <jorgeu> narg: no clue man, sorry
[05:47] <martin> charle97 - no problem.
[05:47] <timalot> RememberPOL, i did an strace on esd on my machine it opens similar files except the last one which opens succesfully....  the one in the /dev/snd ...
[05:47] <kaot> Eric2: ahh.  I don't know if you can specify IP addresses without a specific option in the mount command, by default it's looking for netbios names i believe
[05:47] <cubikdice_> Hey, I currently have 2 computers in my room. Computer 1 is running windows xp and is connected to the internet, it has 2 ethernet cards. The second computer is running Ubuntu. there is a cable from it to computer 1. How do i get the ubuntu machine to use the internet, using the same ip and everything?
[05:47] <Shigun> ljlolel: Anything I might be looking at in issues from that?
[05:48] <timalot> RememberPOL, its probably not working coz it's expecting /dev/snd/pcmC1D0p
[05:48] <BHSPitLappy_> hi
[05:48] <ljlolel> Shigun: Not really..  when you install a new kernel, it keeps the old ones.... so in grub, if there is a problem with the new kernel, you can just boot to the old one then remove the x64 kernel
[05:48] <FunnyHat> cubikdice_, You're going to have to setup windows xp to share the internet connection
[05:48] <Eric2> kaot: thanks for the tip, I just figured it would be more specific, guess not, ty
[05:48] <jorgeu> cubikdice_: the cable between computers cannot be a normal cable, it needs some changes in the pairs order
[05:48] <Eric2> kaot: you see anything else in the syntax by chance?
[05:48] <FunnyHat> cubikdice_, it will basically act as a router...  then you should be able to leave the ubuntu PC on DHCP for it's eth0 card and everything should work find
[05:48] <FunnyHat> (fine
[05:49] <jorgeu> cubikdice_: and you will need some routing features installed
[05:49] <david_> one more crazy question... i have downloaded the ubuntu 6.06 and i think my cdrom just isnt compatible with burnt iso cds... is there a way to run it without a cd?
[05:49] <martin> ljlolel: what about the 32 and 64 bit libraries though?
[05:49] <jorgeu> cubikdice_: like routed
[05:49] <Shigun> ljlolel: Alright, thanks
[05:49] <rockzman> Can someone help me setting up my openbox initialization?
[05:49] <kaot> Eric2: well the thing that stands out is the IP address in place of the computer name.  you might need an lmhosts file containing a name to IP mapping
[05:49] <david_> maybe, by unloading it onto the hard drive or something?
[05:49] <cubikdice_> FunnyHat, are you talking about the Bridge connection feature. last time i did that the main connection didnt work..
[05:49] <RememberPOL> timalot: http://rafb.net/paste/results/QCWcbO54.html
[05:49] <kaot> Eric2: can't for the life of me remember where that goes :(
[05:49] <ljlolel> martin: I'm no expert, so don't quote me ;-), ubuntu should handle dependencies well
[05:49] <kaot> /etc/lmhosts maybe or in your /etc/samba
[05:50] <Ratlump> !nvidia
[05:50] <FunnyHat> cubikdice_, no, you go into network connections, then on the left you click "Set up a home of small office network"
[05:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:50] <jorgeu> asking today again: how do i change my locales in order to drop UTF-8 locales? note: "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't do it anymore (ubuntu 6)
[05:50] <FunnyHat> cubikdice_, that should walk you through it
[05:50] <ljlolel> what about edubuntu, i'd love to get some thin clients set up... do thin clients support sound yet?
[05:50] <jorgeu> !locales
[05:50] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf
[05:50] <rockzman> Ratlump: can you help me?
[05:50] <Eric2> kaot: thanks, I'll try to fix it myself and let you go, but thanks so much for the input dude
[05:51] <rockzman> kaot: hi, are you busy mate?
[05:51] <martin> ljlolel: well, me neither :p  - but I thought the 32 bit and 64 bit libs were often named the same (could be my misinformation)  - on my setup I have lib (64 bit) and lib32 (32 bit libs) - I was just assuming the 32 bit installation would just have lib, with 32bit libraries in it
[05:51] <rockzman> Can someone help me setting up my openbox initialization?
[05:51] <kaot> rockzman: not really but I've forgotten far more than I remember heh
[05:51] <rockzman> kaot: hehe
[05:51] <ardchoille> rockzman: obconf (openbox settings manager) is in the universe repo
[05:51] <rockzman> kaot:  i need some help in setting up my openbox start
[05:51] <martin> ljlolel: my understanding is limited though, so I may be talking rubbish. it sounds too obvious to be an actual problem, I was just musing
[05:52] <Shigun> ljlolel: Wait, just upgrading to the 64kernel, wont all my programs still be 32bit?
[05:52] <ljlolel> what is openbox?
[05:52] <patrickj> Hows this - http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9420/ubuntupaper5rh.png ?
[05:52] <FunnyHat> !openbox
[05:52] <ubotu> openbox is a lightweight window manager. For instructions and more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Openbox
[05:52] <ardchoille> ljlolel: it's a nice window manager
[05:52] <rockzman> ardchoille: i want to run apps on the the openbox initialization
[05:52] <FunnyHat> !xubuntu
[05:52] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:52] <kaot> ahhhh
[05:52] <patrickj> !fluxbox
[05:52] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox
[05:52] <FunnyHat> There ya go ljlolel
[05:52] <david_> i have downloaded the ubuntu 6.06 and i think my cdrom just isnt compatible with burnt iso cds... is there a way to run it without a cd?
[05:53] <ardchoille> rockzman: you mean like this? http://icculus.org/openbox/faq.php#6
[05:53] <ljlolel> Shigun: dunno
[05:54] <rockzman> ardchoille: i'll try thanks
[05:54] <ardchoille> rockzman: also: http://icculus.org/openbox/docs.php
[05:54] <patrickj> opinions on my shitty ubuntu paper?
[05:54] <patrickj> lol
[05:55] <ardchoille> patrickj: I think that is quite nice. Good job.
[05:55] <rockzman> ardchoille: but .xinitrc only for users that do startx
[05:55] <rockzman> and my x starts automatically ardchoille
[05:55] <patrickj> lol thanks
[05:55] <timalot> RememberPOL, u could try creating the device file yourself... probably: mknod /dev/snd/pcmC1D0p c 116 48
[05:55] <patrickj> if there is any position ajustments I need to do lemme know
[05:55] <Shigun> ljlolel: I dont even see the k8 or amd64 kernel image in my repository
[05:55] <ardchoille> rockzman: read the bottom part of #6 in the FAQ
[05:55] <ljlolel> Shigun: hmm, weird, lemme see
[05:55] <martin> shigun: I think apt is clever ebough to only get the 64 bit versions if you have a 64 bit kernel
[05:56] <patrickj> working in gimp with dual lcds =  pwnage :D
[05:56] <Shigun> martin: >.< ownt in the face by synaptic
[05:56] <ardchoille> patrickj: indeed! :)
[05:56] <Geoffrey2> is Fluendo's mp3 plugin available through the repositories, or would I need to download from Fluendo?
[05:56] <rockzman> ardchoille: yea i did read
[05:56] <martin> shigun: synaptic too (I thought)
[05:56] <rockzman> ardchoille: but editing .xsession
[05:56] <rockzman> it does not work
[05:56] <rockzman> \=
[05:57] <ljlolel> Shigun: hm, i thought i saw them.. yea, i don't know
[05:57] <ljlolel> Shigun: sorry :(
[05:57] <Zaire> could anyone in here possibly pastebin their mp3 repository section from their sources list for me please
[05:57] <rockzman> ardchoille:  this file does not even exist should i create? (aswell im using gdm)
[05:57] <arooni> how do i nstall gvim on ubuntu
[05:57] <patrickj> who here uses KDE?
[05:57] <RememberPOL> timalot: open("/dev/snd/pcmC1D0p", O_RDWR|O_NONBLOCK) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[05:57] <ljlolel> Zaire: whaa, there are mp3 repositorie!?
[05:57] <arooni> i did sudo apt-get install gvim
[05:57] <ardchoille> rockzman: ok, they must have switched schemes in gdm since last I used it
[05:57] <Shigun> ljlolel: No worries.  I just want to get this hardfreeze issue resolved.  Making me really dislike Ubuntu
[05:57] <arooni> but there were many optoins....
[05:57] <martin> shigun: search synaptic for "k8"
[05:57] <ljlolel> k8 means 64-bit?
[05:58] <ardchoille> rockzman: yes, create it if it doesn't exist
[05:58] <Zaire> yeps and I need to add them to my sources list
[05:58] <RememberPOL> oh hold
[05:58] <Shigun> martin: Already did that, it didnt have a kernel image
[05:58] <RememberPOL> i fixed the mod but not the own
[05:58] <rockzman> ardchoille: mm i'll try
[05:58] <rockzman> ard thakns
[05:58] <rockzman> thanks
[05:58] <rockzman> =)
[05:58] <patrickj> I <3 dual lcds :D
[05:58] <timalot> RememberPOL, chmod 660 /dev/snd/pcmC1D0
[05:58] <timalot> RememberPOL, chmod 660 /dev/snd/pcmC1D0p
[05:58] <sonicco1> Cool , I finally got my wirless network working : )
[05:58] <ardchoille> rockzman: yw :)
[05:58] <sonicco1> Thank God
[05:58] <RememberPOL> crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 48 2006-07-04 22:55 pcmC1D0p
[05:58] <RememberPOL> i had crw-rw---- 1 root root 116, 48 2006-07-04 22:55 pcmC1D0p
[05:59] <ljlolel> soniccol: , that's hard
[05:59] <ljlolel> soniccol: nice job
[05:59] <RememberPOL> open("/dev/snd/pcmC1D0p", O_RDWR|O_NONBLOCK) = -1 ENODEV (No such device)
[05:59] <timalot> RememberPOL, ok
[05:59] <martin> shigun: do you have all the repositories available?
[05:59] <bradofarrell> hi
[05:59] <RememberPOL> Bad mknod args?
[05:59] <bradofarrell> I just installed xubuntu
[05:59] <Shigun> martin: I believe I do
[05:59] <bradofarrell> I'm trying to get my wireless drivers to work
[05:59] <martin> shigun: I mean univers/multiverse? it *might* be in one of them...?
[05:59] <ardchoille> hahaha
[05:59] <kaot> hm.  this gdm stuff is all new for me, first thing I used to do on a new install was set my default runlevel to not start X
[05:59] <ljlolel> aaaah, why is vim7 not here?!
[05:59] <timalot> RememberPOL, maybe... thats the numbers from my second snd device
[05:59] <RememberPOL> do you have HDA Intel?
[06:00] <timalot> RememberPOL, no
[06:00] <bradofarrell> hello?
[06:00] <patrickj> for some reason my soundcard is outputting no sound
[06:00] <RememberPOL> what are the numbers
[06:00] <martin> shigun: you dont have : linux-amd64-k8 - Complete Linux kernel on AMD K8.
[06:00] <Shigun> martin: no
[06:00] <ljlolel> me neither
[06:00] <martin> shigun: if you've updated recently, I have no idea why then!
[06:00] <LoneShadow> whats with the locales getting messed up every now and then ?
[06:00] <bradofarrell> could someone help me?
[06:00] <timalot> RememberPOL, crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 48 2006-07-05 15:55 /dev/snd/pcmC1D0p
[06:01] <RememberPOL> ot
[06:01] <RememberPOL> oh
[06:01] <LoneShadow> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[06:01] <martin> ljlolel, shigun..... err, maybe it's because of what I said before - synaptic/apt on 32 bit kernels only get 32 bit packages....?
[06:01] <martin> ljlolel, shigun - that would explain why I have it any you dont, wouldn't it?
[06:01] <patrickj> wtf
[06:01] <patrickj> my soundcard isnt working
[06:02] <patrickj> no sound is coming out
[06:02] <patrickj> I have volume on max though
[06:02] <patrickj> and alsamixer loads my soundcard
[06:02] <timalot> RememberPOL, are u sure the kernel module for your soundcard is running
[06:02] <ljlolel> makes sense
[06:02] <RememberPOL> timalot: i'm guessing my minor number should be >18<56
[06:02] <Shigun> martin: Yea
[06:02] <arooni> how do i nstall gvim on ubuntu ?
[06:03] <RememberPOL> timalot: Yes i haven't stopped or removed or messed with any modules
[06:03] <ljlolel> arooni: sudo apt-get install gvim?
[06:03] <martin> ljlolel, shigun: I think there is a way to override that, I cant remember where I saw it though, hang on a minute....
[06:03] <ljlolel> martin: it's okay, i dont have a 64 bit chip
[06:03] <timalot> RememberPOL, can u use /dev/dsp1 or /dev/dsp ?
[06:03] <martin> charle97: you had any joy with that amarok script yet?
[06:03] <arooni> ljlolel: but there are many options
[06:03] <arooni> im not sure which to pick
[06:03] <martin> ljlolel: lol - ok
[06:03] <Shigun> martin: Is that a good idea?
[06:03] <RememberPOL> my esd was working yesterday... i might have accidentally removed pcmC1D0p when config'ing wine's audio prefs....
[06:03] <RememberPOL> timalot: No i don't have dsp
[06:04] <RememberPOL> err
[06:04] <Zaire> anyone else in here can' stand cynical users that figure they had to learn linux on there own so Sc**w helping others
[06:04] <martin> shigun: well, I don't know. I don't see why it would be a problem for installing the kernel
[06:04] <RememberPOL> they're both available but how do i "use" them?
[06:04] <timalot> RememberPOL, ok well i dont know, good luck :)
[06:04] <ljlolel> arooni: sorry, apt-get install vim-gnome
[06:04] <arooni> ljlolel: i.e. should i do gnome or gtk?
[06:04] <timalot> RememberPOL, its the oss way not alsa
[06:04] <Ares> Hello. I have, yet, another Terminal question which I don't understand from LinuxCommand. How do I go about giving everything in a directory r/w/e access to owner? Including all of its sub-directories and files? Would it be the recursive command? If so, I don't get how to use it. =( [Pleaase?] 
[06:04] <martin> shigun: but as I said before - I am no expert, so this may be a case of the blind leading the blind, and you hould *probably* wait and talk to someone who knows more than I do....
[06:04] <blind> I lead myself all the time.
[06:05] <timalot> RememberPOL, if u have mplayer installed trying doin mplater so_vid -ao oss:/dev/dsp1
[06:05] <Ratlump> Does anyone here know if the ubuntu live CDs have anything like ntfsresize or similar to resize a Windows XP partition before installing?
[06:05] <FunnyHat> Ares, chmod 777 -R /path/to/dir
[06:05] <Sjoerd_> Is there anyone available that knows something about sendmail? I have it installed and it works - but really reallly slow....
[06:05] <Shigun> martin: Well, I would think all of the programs are 32bit
[06:05] <RememberPOL> timalot: right but I want ubuntu's logon/logoff sounds to work
[06:05] <RememberPOL> heh
[06:05] <ljlolel> Ares: note, that gives everybody rwe access
[06:05] <Ares> Funny: Thank you =)
[06:05] <LoneShadow> is the locales broken only for edgy or even dapper too ?
[06:05] <patrickj> im gonna reboot into the new version, 6.06 lol
[06:05] <martin> shigun: I was just trying to be helpful... but a little knowledge often *is* a dangerous thing
[06:05] <kaot> FunnyHat: that gives everyone all access
[06:05] <FunnyHat> Ares, yea, is that wahat you wanted?
[06:05] <FunnyHat> Sorry, I didn't read owner.
[06:05] <ljlolel> Ares: to only give the owner rwe access, use 700
[06:05] <FunnyHat> !!
[06:05] <RememberPOL> timalot: if you look here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/QCWcbO54.html you can notice there's some type of pattern for that second number
[06:05] <bradofarrell> could someone help me with my wireless card problem?
[06:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about !!
[06:05] <Ares> Funny: Sort of.
[06:05] <patrickj> ive been in 5.10 for like an hour over Ive updated it, brb
[06:05] <Ares> Funny: I have the other number code here, thanks =)
[06:06] <RememberPOL> 24,16,25,18,56,X
[06:06] <FunnyHat> Ares, Yea do what he said.  use 744 or 700
[06:06] <FunnyHat> 744 gives all to owner, and read to others
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> So right now I'm trying out using my computer hooked up to a digital projector onto a screen.  It works fine when I'm in X, but if I switch to a tty it says "No signal", rather than showing the terminal.  Anyone know why?
[06:06] <RememberPOL> >18<56
[06:06] <orcdestroyer> well... I can't load my KDE using kubuntu... why??
[06:06] <beerfan> ardchoille, those instructions are for using gnome apps in some other wm apparently
[06:06] <ljlolel> Ares: another tip, in case you forget and aren't connected to the internet,`man chmod` will give you  more innfo
[06:06] <maagimies> Ratlump, I don't know anything about ubuntu livecd, but Knoppix has qtparted which can resize ntfs partitions
[06:06] <RememberPOL> oh
[06:06] <RememberPOL> 26
[06:06] <orcdestroyer> Fatal server error
[06:06] <RememberPOL> let's try that
[06:06] <RememberPOL> lol
[06:06] <orcdestroyer> no screens found
[06:07] <orcdestroyer> what should I do about it?
[06:07] <Ratlump> maagimies: Thanks, I already know that.  Just checking if I have to play "CD jockey" to get things done..
[06:07] <martin> orcdestroyer: have you changed your xorg.conf?
[06:07] <kaot> Ratlump: 5.10 livecd has ntfsresize
[06:07] <kaot> dunno about 6.06
[06:07] <orcdestroyer> martii how I changed?
[06:07] <ljlolel> if 5.10 has it.
[06:07] <ljlolel> ..
[06:07] <FunnyHat> kaot, why would 6.06 not have it and 5.10 have it.    that's weird.  :-/
[06:08] <timalot> RememberPOL, ok... good luck... the sequence maybe different for the pcmC1D* files tho
[06:08] <kaot> FunnyHat: I didn't say it didn't have it I said I dunno :P
[06:08] <martin> orcdestroyer: I mean, have you edited it in any way yet?
[06:08] <orcdestroyer> Caught signal 1. Server aborting
[06:08] <Ratlump> kaot: Thanks!!
[06:08] <orcdestroyer> martin no
[06:08] <kaot> maybe they switched tools
[06:08] <kaot> maybe they didn't.
[06:08] <ljlolel> do i have to go to ubunut backports or something to get the beauty that is vim 7
[06:08] <orcdestroyer> martin please... help me
[06:08] <ljlolel> ?
[06:08] <RememberPOL> timalot: arg yeah it's still no device
[06:09] <RememberPOL> timalot: where can I get these numbers? lspci? manufacturer spec?
[06:09] <naknomik> Is there a GUI for mounting NFS volumes in Ubuntu?
[06:09] <SurfnKid> whats the ls argument to list directories only?
[06:09] <martin> orcdestroyer: I am no expert - but it sounds likely there is something wrong in your xorg.conf
[06:09] <orcdestroyer> yes
[06:09] <timalot> RememberPOL, umm, i think they are assigned by alsa... but i am not sure
[06:09] <RememberPOL> SurfnKid: `ls -d`
[06:09] <martin> orcdestroyer: can you paste it into the pastebin please?
[06:09] <SurfnKid> RememberPOL: i tried that, i have 3 directories, it doesnt list them
[06:09] <orcdestroyer> martin how?
[06:09] <martin> orcdestroyer: I'll see if there's anything obvious.
[06:10] <ball> Is this thing on?
[06:10] <martin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  orcdestroyer
[06:10] <martin> and xorg.conf is in /etc/X11/
[06:11] <RememberPOL> SurfnKid:  `ls -l|grep ^d`
[06:11] <ball> Does ubuntu come with "cu" by default?
[06:11] <martin> ball: no
[06:11] <RememberPOL> you mean su?
[06:12] <RememberPOL> ball: sudo su -
[06:12] <ball> RememberPOL: No, "cu" = "call up" (another device/computer/thing via a serial port)
[06:12] <RememberPOL> my bad
[06:12] <ball> martin: bugger.  Can I get it as a package?
[06:12] <ball> hello rockzman
[06:12] <rockzman> ball: yo
[06:13] <ball> hello Cornellius
[06:13] <rockzman> ardchoille: not good news it didnt work
[06:13] <martin> ball: yes
[06:13] <martin> ball: it's just called cu
[06:13] <Cornellius> ball: Hello ?
[06:13] <rockzman> ardchoille: i use gdm
[06:13] <rockzman> =\
[06:13] <rockzman> can someone help me to setup my openbox using gdm ?
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> Anyone with experience projecting a tty on a digital projector?  Gnome/X works fine, but says no signal on tty2.
[06:13] <ljlolel> apt-cache showpkg cu
[06:13] <ball> martin: thanks.
[06:13] <martin> ball: no worries
[06:14] <ljlolel> rockzman: is there an openbox irc channel?
[06:14] <ball> hello cubikdice
[06:14] <rockzman> ljlolel: i dont think so
[06:14] <ball> wow, this is a busy channel
[06:14] <cubikdice> hey
[06:14] <rockzman> ljlolel: btw i am sorry u asked what is it
[06:14] <cubikdice> yeah
[06:14] <ball> is openbox like blackbox?
[06:14] <cubikdice> sort of
[06:14] <rockzman> ljlolel:  i didnt answer ball yes openbox is a wm
[06:14] <ball> ok
[06:14] <rockzman> cubikdice: well can you help me to setup my openbox initizalization using gdm?
[06:14] <martin> are many people here using xgl, by the way?
[06:14] <skavenge> is there an actual 'menu' button when your watching a dvd in gxine?
[06:14] <ball> hello ardy
[06:15] <Cornellius> Can't use GTK based apps anymore. I'm under KDE, and go in Konsole as root and type any gtk based app. (Nautilus, Rhythmbox, gFtp) and I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17215
[06:15] <RememberPOL> timalot: I have the full history of the breakage, do you think that could help?
[06:15] <Cornellius> Anyone knows why ?
[06:15] <FunnyHat> martin, maybe not here, but I bet they are in #ubuntu-xgl   : )
[06:15] <ball> Perhaps I'll try the x86 ubuntu CD I got then.
[06:15] <martin> funnyhat: lol - fair point
[06:15] <cubikdice> rockzman, no sorry, i'm here for questions as well.. i dont know how to setup openbox besides running sudo apt-get install openbox
[06:15] <ball> are there other, more sedate ubuntu channels?
[06:15] <ball> hello crimsun, jjmacey
[06:15] <RememberPOL> Cornellius: Try running as non-root.
[06:16] <martin> funnyhat: I was more just wondering what the uptake was. personally, I didnt really dig it
[06:16] <timalot> RememberPOL, i dont think it would help me... i thinks it's a problem with alsa, u could try doing a dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base ... and some of the other alsa packages
[06:16] <rockzman> cubikdice: yes, thanks but i need some help in setting up it
[06:16] <ball> hello MajorTool
[06:16] <Cornellius> RememberPOL: It works as non-root !
[06:16] <rockzman> cubikdice: i want to know how do i set my apps to automatically runs on openbox
[06:16] <crimsun> timalot: what's the problem?
[06:16] <MajorTool> hello
[06:16] <timalot> crimsun, his esd won't run ... just exits after invocation
[06:17] <Cornellius> RememberPOL: Why does it works as non-root and not as root ?
[06:17] <crimsun> timalot: whose?
[06:17] <martin> funnyhat: I like gnome, havent tried xfce, but fluxbox is clean, and I like it - but xgl is the sort of thing I expect to see running on a mac (although that isn't a criticism), it;s just a bit spangly for my liking.
[06:17] <FunnyHat> martin, it hurts my eyes personally
[06:17] <cubikdice> rockzman, you dont setup the applications to run on open box. they'll run once your in the openbox enviorment
[06:17] <lightstar> rockzman, you gotta do it using a .xsession file
[06:17] <martin> funnyhat: I probably should have been born in germany :p
[06:17] <FunnyHat> martin, I love Gnome but XGL was just way too much eye candy to process...  it didn't seem like it was worth it
[06:17] <Cornellius> RememberPOL: I used to "sudo nautilus" to use nautilus with root privilieges.
[06:17] <Gareth> martin, xfce sounds right up your alley then (it's quite the minimalist distro)
[06:17] <lightstar> rockzman, and once u set openbox to be your default wm
[06:17] <rockzman> cubikdice: ops mate u didnt understand my question i know that what you said is right
[06:17] <timalot> crimsun, RememberPOL
[06:17] <Gareth> er, not distro but WM rhater
[06:17] <FunnyHat> martin, haha, I'm going to buy a macbook and put ubuntu on it ; )
[06:18] <martin> funnyhat: lol
[06:18] <Terinjokes> i have a couple question for Ubuntu 6.06 on the Mac (PPC). Is there a way to use the builtin wifi?
[06:18] <crimsun> RememberPOL: what's the error when you invoke esd from a Terminal?
[06:18] <RememberPOL> Cornellius: Security purposes I assume, but I'm pretty sure if you google your error you'll be able find instructions for how to allow root to run X apps by command line.
[06:18] <rockzman> lightstar: that is not about OPENBOX be my default app, i want to know how do i make my programs runs automatically when i start my openbox u understand now cubikdice
[06:18] <MajorTool> can anyone here help a newby out with nvidia drivers? Been searching the forums but have had no luck
[06:18] <RememberPOL> crimsun: auto exit
[06:18] <RememberPOL> http://rafb.net/paste/results/BxtcCu43.html
[06:18] <martin> funnyhat: I've seen a few tutorials "make gnome look like OSX"- and thought... "why!?!"
[06:19] <FunnyHat> martin, umm... my gnome does look similiar to OS X....  ; )
[06:19] <RememberPOL> as you can see i played around in /dev/snd but didn't touch pcm*
[06:19] <Cornellius> RememberPOL: Nah, that's an error. I was able to do it this morning.
[06:19] <crimsun> RememberPOL: ...that's history, not debug spew.
[06:19] <FunnyHat> martin, www.funnylookinhat.com    go to the second post for screenshots
[06:19] <RememberPOL> sorry h/o
[06:19] <FunnyHat> martin, but it's simply because it's easier for me to keep track of the few apps I need
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> If anyone answered me, please send again - was disconnected.
[06:19] <ba> wtf is ubuntu alternate?
[06:20] <crimsun> ba: the installer? It's text-based and not a live cd.
[06:20] <ba> oh. lame
[06:20] <RememberPOL> crimsun: esd -debug ?
[06:20] <max_nooby_noob> Hi guys
[06:20] <ba> to many people with to much time on their hands doing useless stuff, when they could be using their time for better things
[06:21] <max_nooby_noob> I'm trying to install the new ati drivers for linux
[06:21] <Phoul> anyone have the link to the ubuntu forums post about "howto e17"?
[06:21] <martin> funnyhat: it looks nice - I'm more against all the fluid aps and icons growing etc
[06:21] <crimsun> RememberPOL: no, just esd
[06:21] <Terinjokes> so is it possible to use Airport
[06:21] <RememberPOL> crimsun: yeah there is _no_ output
[06:21] <lightstar> rockzman, if you want an app to run automatically once you start openbox, the only way to do it is to put it in a .xsession file
[06:21] <max_nooby_noob> the instructions from the ati site says to Enter the command sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.26.18-i386.run to launch the 32bit version of the ATI Proprietary Linux driver installer
[06:21] <RememberPOL> no alien sound byte
[06:21] <RememberPOL> just auto-exit
[06:21] <max_nooby_noob> but when I do I get the following message:
[06:21] <martin> majortool: what is the problem?
[06:21] <crimsun> RememberPOL: ok, do you have the output from ``strace -fF esd'' pastebinned?
[06:21] <max_nooby_noob>  command not found
[06:21] <rockzman> lightstar: yeah i did it and it didnt work, u want me to paste my .xsession file so u can check ?
[06:21] <max_nooby_noob> please help
[06:21] <RememberPOL> pol@pol-laptop:/dev/snd$ esd
[06:21] <RememberPOL> pol@pol-laptop:/dev/snd$
[06:22] <RememberPOL> no
[06:22] <crimsun> ba: what does "useless stuff" refer to?
[06:22] <jorgeu> asking today again: how do i change my locales in order to drop UTF-8 locales? note: "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't do it anymore (ubuntu 6)
[06:22] <cfh_dev> I have an IDE raid controller setup with RAID 1.  I can see both drives separately in /proc/diskstats.  How do I point to the raid controller?
[06:22] <crimsun> RememberPOL: please pastebin it, then.
[06:22] <ba> anyone from canada in here? i got a bunch of kubuntu disks i forgot i ordered
[06:22] <lightstar> rockzman, is openbox your default wm now?
[06:22] <rockzman> lightstar: it has been since i installed
[06:22] <ba> crimsun, ubuntu alternate
[06:22] <rockzman> lightstar: i want to set things to runs on openbox automatically
[06:22] <max_nooby_noob> the file is in my home directory
[06:23] <lightstar> rockzman, how did u make openbox your default wm?
[06:23] <crimsun> ba: it's not at all a "waste". It succeeds where the graphical version tends to bomb.
[06:23] <RememberPOL> crimsun: k, http://rafb.net/paste/results/oWIb8137.html
[06:23] <Shigun> ,, shall ask again since there are more people now
[06:23] <max_nooby_noob> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.26.18-inst.html
[06:23] <jorgeu> asking today again: how do i change my locales in order to drop UTF-8 variants? note: "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't do it anymore (ubuntu 6)
[06:23] <Shigun> Is it possible to upgrade from 32bit to 64bit, without having to reinstall Ubuntu?
[06:23] <ba> crimsun, true i guess...
[06:23] <lightstar> rockzman, you have to choose "use system default"..only then will the .xsession file be read
[06:23] <rockzman> lightstar: i had 5.10 and on gdm i could choose my default wm so i installed the package and choose openbox
[06:23] <ba> i dunno i havent used linux in awhile. i go threw phases where i use it and then i dont
[06:23] <lightstar> rockzman, choose "system default"..and make sure .xsession is executable
[06:24] <ba> im into multimedia stuff and linux just isnt where i would like it to be
[06:24] <crimsun> RememberPOL: and pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc*''
[06:24] <martin> ba: what multimedia stuff?
[06:24] <max_nooby_noob> pretty please?
[06:24] <RememberPOL> crimsun: BTW line 353 usually said "no file" before I came for help because I tried to mknod that PCM device but it's probably the wrong MAJOR seq #
[06:24] <jorgeu> !UTF-8
[06:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about UTF-8
[06:24] <cubikdice> FunnyHat, hey man, it worked... i got it to use the internet :D i installed openssh-server and it's running...but when i connect to it from the windows machine i get connection refused. i even turned off the windows firewall
[06:24] <MajorTool> Thanks martin: I used Automatix to install my nvidia driver for GeForce FX 5900XT but I loose my X-Server on reboot and have to restore xorg.conf to fix it.
[06:24] <rockzman> lightstar:  well, if i but my login and password on gdm and it runs openbox it means it is my default wm right?
[06:24] <jorgeu> !localeconf
[06:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about localeconf
[06:24] <ljlolel> !locales
[06:24] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf
[06:25] <Shigun> Anybody?  Possible to upgrade to 64bit from 32bit, without a reinstall?
[06:25] <RememberPOL> http://rafb.net/paste/results/2JGhIK34.html
[06:25] <martin> ba: I've just moved from XP to ubuntu, and for most things, linux has something to comete with windows apps
[06:25] <ba> martin: graphics, video, audio... you can tell me linux is there. iv been an active member in the community for years but we all need to be honest with ourselves... its just not there yet...
[06:25] <FunnyHat> cubikdice, openssh-server on the linux box???  and it's being refused?  Weird....
[06:25] <RememberPOL> crimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/2JGhIK34.html
[06:25] <ajay_> ba, absolutely true
[06:25] <ljlolel> ba: linux is there
[06:25] <max_nooby_noob> how do I navigate to a place where my file is dl'd on terminal?
[06:25] <FunnyHat> cubikdice, Check to make sure you're connecting to the right IP address and that the windows box isn't taking that request instead of the linux one.
[06:25] <jorgeu> ljlolel: already saw it, it says that "dpkg-reconfigure locales" should work, but it doesn't
[06:25] <max_nooby_noob> Launch the Terminal Application/Window and navigate to the ATI Proprietary Linux driver download.
[06:25] <max_nooby_noob> Enter the command sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.26.18-i386.run to launch the 32bit version of the ATI Proprietary Linux driver installer
[06:26] <crimsun> RememberPOL: why not use the onboard?
[06:26] <cubikdice> FunnyHat, how wouldi check that?
[06:26] <ljlolel> jorgeu: as in, it crashes?
[06:26] <crimsun> RememberPOL: ``asoundconf set-default-card Intel''
[06:26] <crimsun> RememberPOL: I also need ``lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*''
[06:26] <martin> ba: it depends *what* you're using. blender, IMO, is close to, if not alongside 3D studio max, and the GIMP is pretty handy these days (although still no 16 bit editing)
[06:26] <lightstar> rockzman, no don't choose openbox as the wm. choose system default so that it will read the .xsession file. and do remember to put the path to openbox at the end of the file
[06:26] <RememberPOL> pol@pol-laptop:~$ ``asoundconf set-default-card Intel''
[06:26] <RememberPOL> pol@pol-laptop:~$
[06:26] <rockzman> ah
[06:26] <ba> well its not that linux isnt there yet. it is..... it just needs more companys making software for it.... it needs more apps.... like photoshop and apps
[06:26] <naknomik> What packages I need to install for mouting NFS volumes?
[06:26] <crimsun> RememberPOL: now the pastebin.
[06:26] <ba> id be willing to pay for them too
[06:26] <rockzman> lightstar: ah now i understand like "exec openbox"
[06:26] <skavenge> what  resolution is considered widescreen on a laptop?
[06:26] <jorgeu> ljlolel: it just start to genereate the already configured locales and don't let me choose wich generate
[06:26] <rockzman> lightstar: how do i set it up?
[06:27] <RememberPOL> pol@pol-laptop:~$ esd
[06:27] <RememberPOL> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:819:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[06:27] <rockzman> lightstar: does gdm has this option?
[06:27] <max_nooby_noob> anyone?
[06:27] <ba> i find people do better work when they get paid to do it... the world doesnt run off volenteers
[06:27] <martin> ba: I'll admit that for sound, I can't argue quite as well... but I've used audacity with success - it's no cubase, but it's not bad
[06:27] <cheeseman557> hi, how do i get into rescue mode?
[06:27] <ljlolel> jorgeu: i see what you mean
[06:27] <ba> ya i use audacity in windows to make my podcasts. its pretty nice
[06:27] <ba> gets the job done
[06:27] <RememberPOL> crimsun: btw i think something I did in that history broke it... unless it was a GUI invoke i did during that time
[06:27] <jorgeu> !hate UTF-8
[06:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about hate UTF-8
[06:27] <Cornellius> Yay ! Problem solved
[06:27] <RememberPOL> crimsun: either way I know it was during that history's time frame..
[06:28] <martin> ba: I think that's a perception thing - I tend to think the opposite
[06:28] <jorgeu> !don't want UTF-8
[06:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about don't want UTF-8
[06:28] <crimsun> RememberPOL: if it's a permissions issue, you can just reboot
[06:28] <JaiMa> ba: When I have to do something because it's work I'm not as motivated as when I do it because I want to
[06:28] <martin> both are probably true under different circumstances
[06:28] <RememberPOL> crimsun: No i have rebooted several times
[06:28] <ba> martin, im not doing full scale recordings so audacity works for me
[06:28] <RememberPOL> but i'll try now again
[06:28] <jorgeu> asking today again: how do i change my locales in order to drop UTF-8 locales? note: "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't do it anymore (ubuntu 6)
[06:28] <ljlolel> jorgeu: what does localedef do?
[06:28] <ba> martin, i record podcasts for nerdxcore.net when i feel like it sometimes
[06:28] <jorgeu> !want iso-8859-1
[06:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about want iso-8859-1
[06:28] <ljlolel> jorgeu: utf8 is awesome though ;-)
[06:29] <jojoman02> anyone wanna try out my supersimple mencoder frontend?
[06:29] <jorgeu> ljlolel: not for spanish
[06:29] <cubikdice> FunnyHat, well the linux box bound to a wierd 192.*.*.* number when i ran dhclient3 so i think thats ok..but even when i try connecting to the ssh server from the linux box using local host..it will wont work...
[06:29] <martin> majortool: I dont use automatix - but what changes have you made to your xorg.conf?
[06:29] <jorgeu> ljlolel: i really hate UTF-8
[06:29] <crimsun> jorgeu: pass a whitespace-delimited list of first-column locales from /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED to locale-gen
[06:29] <ljlolel> jorgeu: really? it has fewer characters than others?
[06:29] <max_nooby_noob> anyone?
[06:29] <cheeseman557> how do i get into rescue mode?
[06:29] <martin> ba: cool - so what doesnt linux have that you need (I'm not arguing, I'm just interested)
[06:30] <jorgeu> ljlolel: it just has a lot of incompatibilities with my apps and my language
[06:30] <max_nooby_noob> c'mon guys
[06:30] <FunnyHat> cubikdice, most SSH servers will not allow connections from 127.0.0.1 or localhost by default in the config...
[06:30] <ba> martin, i dunno lots of nice apps....
[06:30] <RememberPOL> crimsun: thanks to your leetness.
[06:30] <martin> ba: lol - come on, you've got to give an example!
[06:30] <FunnyHat> cubikdice, Can you connect to the ssh from the windows box by going to the 192.*.*.* address?  you should be able to.  Well then agian, you may not be able to depending on how windows networking works.  I've never tried.
[06:31] <RememberPOL> Thank you very much Mr. T. Chen.
[06:31] <FunnyHat> cubikdice, but you _SHOULD_ be able to if it's working the way it's advertised
[06:31] <zcat[1] > Bonzi Buddy ?
[06:31] <ljlolel> jorgeu: so a lot of spanish apps use something other than utf-8?
[06:31] <zcat[1] > :-)
[06:31] <skavenge> what resolution is considered widescreen on a laptop?
[06:31] <crimsun> RememberPOL: "Daniel" is fine.
[06:31] <jorgeu> ljlolel: iso-8859-1
[06:31] <RememberPOL> But, can you happen to peep what I did in that history to f*** up in the first place?
[06:31] <crimsun> RememberPOL: does it work now?
[06:32] <MajorTool> martin: I haven
[06:32] <ljlolel> jorgeu: I see.. that sucks.. and o/s or whatever doesn't upconvert it to utf-8?
[06:32] <MajorTool> 't made any changes
[06:32] <cubikdice> FunnyHat, how do i find out what ip the ubuntu box is running?
[06:32] <RememberPOL> And thanks timalot.
[06:32] <ljlolel> ifconfig
[06:32] <FunnyHat> cubikdice, go to the box and type ifconfig eth0 in the terminal
[06:32] <RememberPOL> crimsun: Yeah it works.
[06:32] <zcat[1] > !zcat
[06:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about zcat
[06:32] <crimsun> RememberPOL: excellent.
[06:32] <zcat[1] > bah!!
[06:32] <timalot> RememberPOL,  if it f*cks up again maybe /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[06:32] <ba> martin, ok lemme look threw some of my apps. itunes.... also i notice im lazy and hate learning commands and tweeking with shit
[06:32] <ba> i like it to just work
[06:32] <jorgeu> ljlolel: going reboot, i have try your workaround
[06:33] <jorgeu> ljlolel: thanks
[06:33] <FunnyHat> cubikdice, actually just ifconfig will work, that ensures that it will show you whatever device (eth*) is connected
[06:33] <martin> ba: aha... maybe that's the problem? :p
[06:33] <ba> dont get me wrong im a huge linux advocate but since i stopped using it i realized how simple windows can be.... after you fix it and maintain it a little
[06:33] <BHSPitLappy_> need some help
[06:33] <ba> martin, naw usability is the probably
[06:33] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[06:33] <martin> ba: I'm j/k - click and play rules for most people, I admit
[06:33] <BHSPitLappy_> when my laptop returns from Suspend mode, the screen shows vertical brown bars, and the system is completely frozen
[06:33] <wubrgamer> i'm looking for a jumping off guide to using apache
[06:33] <cheeseman557> how do i get into rescue mode?
[06:33] <RememberPOL> Heh... if it were as easy as a service restart then why wouldn't it start working after restarting several times already?
[06:33] <cubikdice> FunnyHat, alright. that works
[06:33] <BHSPitLappy_> I really need Suspend to be functional
[06:34] <ba> i dunno im downloading the latest release of ubuntu now...
[06:34] <maagimies> ba, windows is even harder then linux, in linux I can upgrade _all_ my apps with one command, in windows you hunt down the packages from their websites
[06:34] <lumgwada> hey any quick fixes for getting sound in flash on firefox ?
[06:34] <FunnyHat> cubikdice, ok so use that IP from the windows box in PuTTY or whatever SSH client you are connecting with
[06:34] <max_nooby_noob> guys I can't get the ATi Proprietary Linux Driver installer to launch. Can someone please help me?
[06:34] <RememberPOL> crimsun: the code you gave me specifically helped, and I needed to restart to probably fix permissions on your code...
[06:34] <cubikdice> FunnyHat, but i have a domain that points to my ip..and when i try to use it..it doesn work.
[06:34] <kaot> FunnyHat: got a question about that actually... I seem to recall using AllowFrom and DenyFrom directives in sshd_config, but man sshd_config doesn't show those options now and the default sshd_config doesn't have those examples in there.  I haven't tried using them yet. What gives?
[06:34] <ceplma> Is there any standard way how to migrate to Ubuntu (in my case Kubuntu) from Debian?
[06:34] <RememberPOL> I had restarted several times without sound working before I came into here for help
[06:34] <martin> ba: I dont see how anything could be simpler than "sudo apt-get install blender" for example, and there's you 3d editor/rendered.... compare that to installing MAX - takes ages, you've got licensing, several CDs, choose where to put it, blah blah blah
[06:34] <kaot> are they not available in new sshd?
[06:34] <ba> also another things that boggles me with linux is the "distro" ... there are so many with so many different and nice features... you miss out on so much by not trying them all. and when you try them all it takes forever and then they have a new release
[06:34] <BHSPitLappy_> ceplma, migrate how?
[06:35] <patrickj> for some reason my sound isnt workiung :'(
[06:35] <crimsun> patrickj: pastebin ``lspci -v && lsmod && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[06:35] <FunnyHat> cubikdice, because the windows box is not forwarding port 22 (SSH) requests to the linux box.
[06:35] <RememberPOL> lol
[06:35] <max_nooby_noob> please, somebody
[06:35] <RememberPOL> patrickj: are you serious?
[06:35] <zcat[1] > that reminds me, I should go pull my spare soundcard out
[06:35] <cubikdice> FunnyHat, how do i set that up?
[06:35] <FunnyHat> cubikdice, unfortunately I'm not sure that windows shared internet connections support that sort of routing
[06:35] <cheeseman557> hey, how do i get into rescue mode?
[06:35] <martin> majortool: are you using the rolled-back xorg.conf now?
[06:35] <ceplma> BHSPitLappy_: Well, I would like just to change /etc/apt/sources.list and run aptitude update; aptitude upgrade; but I am afraid it won' be that easy, right? ;-)
[06:35] <ba> cubikdice, you still fucking my cousin??
[06:35] <MajorTool> martin: yes
[06:35] <cubikdice> ba, yeah
[06:35] <mircea> hello all
[06:35] <FunnyHat> ba, please watch your language
[06:35] <FunnyHat> !language
[06:35] <cubikdice> ^_^
[06:36] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:36] <mircea> how can i add multiverse in 606?
[06:36] <ba> cubikdice, wrap that duder
[06:36] <cubikdice> FunnyHat, i achully am
[06:36] <BHSPitLappy_> ceplma, oh, you'd actually like to change a debian install into a ubuntu one?
[06:36] <martin> majortool: all you should need to change in it is "nv" to "nvidia"
[06:36] <cubikdice> ba, w0rd
[06:36] <max_nooby_noob> is this the support group?
[06:36] <patrickj> RememberPOL: http://pastebin.ca/79282
[06:36] <ba> haha
[06:36] <ceplma> BHSPitLappy_: yeah
[06:36] <skavenge> !multiverse
[06:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:36] <FunnyHat> cubikdice, ????
[06:36] <internat> howdy, i just bought a leatek dtv2000h which uses the  Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder but buggers me if i can get it to work.. any suggestions?
[06:36] <mircea> thank you very much :)
[06:36] <cubikdice> FunnyHat, ...having sex with his cousin
[06:36] <cubikdice> :P
[06:36] <BHSPitLappy_> ceplma, can't help you there, I'm not sure if that can be done
[06:36] <ljlolel> BHSPitLappy_: you can change sources.list, but it might not work
[06:36] <kaot> max_nooby_noob: i'd help but i haven't worked up the nerve to try installing fglrx or whatever it's called
[06:36] <BHSPitLappy_> cubikdice, watch it
[06:36] <ba> cubikdice, true story... were not even kidding
[06:36] <ba> i mean
[06:36] <ba> FunnyHat, its true... he is
[06:37] <BHSPitLappy_> ljlolel, it's ceplma
[06:37] <cubikdice> lol yeah, kinda creepy beeing on IRC tho
[06:37] <cubikdice> lol
[06:37] <FunnyHat> kaot, sorry but the text is scrolling way too fast for me to keep up!!  ^_^:;;;  if you don't see the option in that config file I don't know what to say.  I would suggest looking on ubuntuforums.org or googling around for the name of hte config file to see an exampe
[06:37] <kaot> max_nooby_noob: most of what i've seen on the topic implies that i'm gonna b0rk my junk
[06:37] <max_nooby_noob> kaot: it's the ATi drivers
[06:37] <cubikdice> sorry BHSPitLappy_
[06:37] <FunnyHat> ba, cubikdice Just please keep it clean in here.
[06:37] <ba> cubikdice, iv been on irc since before you could wdalk
[06:37] <max_nooby_noob> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.26.18-inst.html
[06:37] <cubikdice> ba, most likely
[06:37] <martin> ba: I think it was just the language he was objecting to, not the actual act of getting it on with your cousin :p
[06:37] <skavenge> ive never quite learned to wdalk
[06:37] <ba> or use ssh for that matter :D
[06:37] <max_nooby_noob> all I need is someone to help me launch the installer.
[06:37] <max_nooby_noob> I can't figure it out
[06:37] <kaot> FunnyHat: well I remember the name of the directive, i'm just trying to figure out if i'm imagining ever having used it or if they took it out or what.  i'll research a bit more, was just curious if you knew offhand.
[06:37] <skavenge> i mean i can walk, and talk, but wdalk? oh boy
[06:38] <crimsun> patrickj: in a Terminal, amixer set 'Analog Front' 80%
[06:38] <ba> martin, i object to the act of him getting it on with my cousin...
[06:38] <ba> *shudder
[06:38] <martin> ba: lol
[06:38] <mircea> unfortunately, software properties is not opening
[06:38] <kaot> max_nooby_noob: installer?  there's an installer?
[06:38] <ba> cubikdice, want some new kubuntu disks?
[06:38] <ba> i got a bunch in the mail today
[06:38] <mircea> Skaven, ^
[06:38] <RememberPOL> lol crimsun, are you going to be able to tell me specifically why it broke?
[06:38] <martin> ba: I'd offer to step in, but I imagine you're in the states... :p
[06:38] <max_nooby_noob> yes, an ati proprietary linux driver installer
[06:38] <ba> martin, naw im canadian
[06:38] <mircea> skavenge, that think is not working
[06:38] <_mabus> I know this isn't the place to ask... but where might I get somebody to kill a connection that my machine has made to this server? A mysterious client is connected and won't ping out.
[06:38] <cubikdice> ba, nah waiting for mine
[06:38] <mircea> s/think/thing
[06:39] <FunnyHat> kaot, ooh ok.  Yea I am positive the option is still in there.  It's a huge security issue to allow root and localhost to connect usually....
[06:39] <kaot> this is awesome.  i used linux from like 2000-2004, took a year or two off when my computers broke, and now i feel like a total nub all over again.  hehe
[06:39] <ba> cubikdice, its pretty nice... linux is taking hardware pretty good these days
[06:39] <martin> ba: aha... bad assumption
[06:39] <crimsun> RememberPOL: I haven't reread your shell history, and I'm fairly busy atm. Please be patient.
[06:39] <patrickj> crimsun: worked, thanks :D
[06:39] <max_nooby_noob> see this link: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.26.18-inst.html
[06:39] <crimsun> patrickj: np
[06:39] <ba> i still wish i could get osx86 working native on my dell though
[06:39] <martin> ba: either way, I'm 3000 miles away
[06:39] <cubikdice> so is there a way to port forward port 22 on my windows box to my linux box
[06:39] <cheeseman557> hey, how do i get into rescue mode?
[06:39] <RememberPOL> crimsun: Sorry Daniel.  Again thank you for your help..
[06:39] <ba> cubikdice, you using a router?
[06:39] <patrickj> sleepy time
[06:39] <cubikdice> ba, i'm a gnome kinda guy
[06:39] <patrickj> night all :P
[06:39] <ba> or iptables?
[06:39] <cubikdice> ba. no thats the thing
[06:40] <bjv> cubikdice: windows 2000 i know can do that.
[06:40] <cubikdice> its connected throw my other ethernet card
[06:40] <ba> well why isnt it just working?
[06:40] <cfh_dev> Is mdadm or evms the preferred raid utility?
[06:40] <RememberPOL> Heh, goodnight patrickj you guru wizard!
[06:40] <_mabus> cubikdice: you should have the linux box as the router, then
[06:40] <cubikdice> bjv, well how do i go about doing it
[06:40] <max_nooby_noob> kaot: all I need is someone to get me to launch it from terminal. everytime I try it says: wrong command or no such file or directory
[06:40] <bjv> cubikdice: sorry, it has been about 4 years.. -_-
[06:40] <cubikdice> _mabus, well it's to late now..i'm trying to get this to work
[06:40] <cubikdice> bjv: thanks....
[06:40] <_mabus> too late?
[06:41] <kaot> max_nooby_noob: oh, go to the directory where you downloaded it, type sh ./ati then hit tab, should autocomplete the whole filename, then hit enter.
[06:41] <kaot> that should run it for you
[06:41] <cubikdice> _mabus, that requiers changing my room around :P
[06:41] <MajorTool> thanks martin... i'll give it a shot.
[06:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[06:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:41] <RememberPOL> crimsun: Do you know any non-afk freenode ircops?
[06:41] <max_nooby_noob> go to the directory from terminal? how?
[06:41] <max_nooby_noob> note my name
[06:41] <kaot> max_nooby_noob: you downloaded it, yes?
[06:41] <ljlolel> haha
[06:41] <max_nooby_noob> yes
[06:41] <kaot> do you recall where you saved it?
[06:41] <bjv> cubikdice: im not really involved in windows systems anymore, try in #windows? im certain it was a windows 2000 server machine the exact language im trying to recall.
[06:41] <max_nooby_noob> it's in my home directory
[06:41] <Cornellius> How to configure the sound now ? My sound is too  "fast" !
[06:42] <max_nooby_noob> home/USERNAME/
[06:42] <cubikdice> alright
[06:42] <kaot> max_nooby_noob: ok so when you open the terminal it should default to your home dir.  so just type what i said
[06:42] <crimsun> RememberPOL: it's not a good idea to recreate device nodes (udev manages them for you if you use the default Ubuntu kernel and udev)
[06:42] <bjv> cubikdice: i remember that when enabled, there was an entry in the 'internet connections' dialog for 'outgoing'
[06:42] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo sh ./fglrx-uninstall.sh
[06:42] <kaot> max_nooby_noob: ooo wait.  you might need to sudo that
[06:42] <kaot> lol
[06:42] <RememberPOL> crimsun: I'll keep that in mind, but I was mindlessly taking advice from timalot
[06:43] <Jack_Sparrow> max_nooby_noob:  sudo sh ./fglrx-uninstall.sh
[06:43] <max_nooby_noob> that worked
[06:43] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[06:43] <max_nooby_noob> that worked! but then it said: you need to run the install as "super user"
[06:43] <max_nooby_noob> what the hell is that?
[06:43] <crimsun> RememberPOL: /stats p    should give you ircop status
[06:43] <kaot> lol
[06:43] <kaot> what's what?
[06:43] <ljlolel> sudo
[06:43] <ljlolel> su = super user
[06:43] <FunnyHat> max_nooby_noob, that means put sudo before the command
[06:43] <ljlolel> sudo = super user do
[06:44] <bjv> cubikdice: routing and remote access! that is what they called their NAT
[06:44] <cheeseman557> hey, how do i get into rescue mode?
[06:44] <jorgeu> ljlolel: ok, i had to change the file locales.def from gdm configuration and delete the line conrresponding to es_VE.UTF-8 and now everything work well. Thanks for the workaround
[06:44] <ljlolel> (or su means switch user)
[06:44] <max_nooby_noob> what's the fglrx...?
[06:44] <someothernick> ati driver
[06:44] <ljlolel> jorgeu: good work
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> max_nooby_noob:  Did you even try to follow these
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[06:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:44] <cubikdice> bjv, achully i think i just found out how :) your hunch lead me in the right direction
[06:44] <ljlolel> jorgeu: how hard would it be to update the locales wiki with that info so that everyone else will have an easier time?
[06:45] <max_nooby_noob> ok I'll enter sudo sh ./fglrx
[06:45] <jorgeu> ljlolel: no clue
[06:45] <jorgeu> !locales
[06:45] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf
[06:45] <kaot> hmmm.
[06:45] <ba> hahaha, i just rememberd i have a loudblog install
[06:45] <ba> weird
[06:45] <ljlolel> jorgeu: if you set up an ubuntu account it'd take a second
[06:45] <cubikdice> bjv, is the ssh port 22 UDP or TCP?
[06:45] <ljlolel> ;-)
[06:45] <kaot> tcp
[06:45] <rockzman> Which client is lighter on ubuntu aMSN or GAIM?
[06:45] <ljlolel> i imagine tcp
[06:45] <max_nooby_noob> it said: sh: ./fglrx-uninstall.sh: No such file or directory
[06:45] <_mabus> How can I kill a client that is connected from my machine?
[06:46] <cubikdice> ba, you gotta set me up an SQL Database sometime
[06:46] <_mabus> It is preventing me from getting to freenode on my own computer
[06:46] <kaot> max_nooby_noob: I don't think you got that command quite right
[06:46] <ba> http://loudblog.nerdxcore.net/index.php?id=4
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> max_nooby_noob:  Did you even try to follow the link I gave
[06:46] <ljlolel> _mabus: ps aux shows processes, kill 1234 where 1234 is the pid should do it, no?
[06:46] <cheeseman557> hey, how do i get into rescue mode?
[06:46] <james_> are there any broadcom wireless experts in here? i went through a procedure to make mine work that i found in ubuntu forums, but now my computer cannot see my wireless card at all
[06:46] <max_nooby_noob> oh sorry, I didn't realize that was a link
[06:46] <bjv> rockzman: gaim is fat with features, but i notice no slowness on my pc133 1.4ghz machine.
[06:46] <kaot> james_: which chipset?
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[06:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:47] <james_> kaot: 0000:02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4319 (rev 02)
[06:47] <rockzman> bjv:  thanks
[06:47] <maagimies> btw if anyones looking a gtk style for a dark desktop, i found this: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=27141
[06:47] <james_> i guess 4319 would be the chipset?
[06:47] <kaot> james_: sorry mine's slightly different.  you using ndiswrapper or bcm43xx kernel module?
[06:47] <Jack_Sparrow> james no
[06:47] <james_> kaot: i have tried both
[06:47] <max_nooby_noob> sorry Jack, what link?
[06:47] <kaot> james_: was it working at some point in the past?
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> james_:  more likely a bcm43xx
[06:48] <cheeseman557> hey, how do i get into rescue mode with a ubuntu cd? i dont get a boot: prompt
[06:48] <james_> i see
[06:48] <max_nooby_noob> the wiki?
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> max_nooby_noob: look up
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> binary driver how to
[06:48] <james_> kaot: no, i have not had it working in linux yet
[06:48] <ba> cubikdice, answer pm foo!
[06:48] <cubikdice> ba, i did foo!
[06:49] <ba> i see nothing
[06:49] <kaot> james_: what happened with mine was ,i got it working with ndiswrapper under 5.10, I upgraded, 6.06 "helpfully" installed bcm43xx driver for me
[06:49] <kaot> which didn't work at all
[06:49] <james_> Jack_Sparrow: i tried to install the bcm43xx driver and things went from bad to worse. i am thinking about reinstalling and starting over
[06:49] <martin> charle97 - are you there?
[06:49] <kaot> so I had to put bcm43xx in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, then i uninstalled & reinstalled ndiswrapper.
[06:50] <kaot> james_: at that point the tough part was finding a working bcmwl5.inf file
[06:50] <max_nooby_noob> Jack, this is all I saw in addition to the wiki: sudo sh ./fglrx-uninstall.sh
[06:50] <kaot> james_: that was trial-and-error
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> james, were you working with an upgraded system or original Dapper install
[06:50] <james_> kaot: i guess i will have to keep experimenting too
[06:51] <james_> Jack_Sparrow: this is a fresh dapper install
[06:51] <kaot> james_: just make sure bcm43xx isn't loading on boot
[06:51] <Jack_Sparrow> max_nooby_noob: I would do that page from the top...
[06:51] <kaot> james_: that'll get in the way
[06:51] <max_nooby_noob> I believe the ati installer I'm trying to run is newer than the wiki
[06:51] <Jack_Sparrow> james_:  then a fresh install will probably not work.
[06:51] <kaot> james_: have you tried the fwcutter approach?
[06:51] <james_> kaot, that may be what is happening, but i did blacklist it
[06:51] <Jack_Sparrow> max_nooby_noob: then undo what you were doing and do it the way we know works
[06:51] <kaot> james_: well just modprobe | grep bcm to make sure it isn't loading
[06:52] <james_> kaot: yes, that is what i did that caused my system to not see my card anymore
[06:52] <whiter> i have a problem... i have an S3 video card and when i do "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to select the S3 driver it doesnt work, when x tries to start the monitor goes blank
[06:52] <jorgeu> !locale
[06:52] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf
[06:52] <whiter> the only way i can get video is by using the vesa driver
[06:52] <Jack_Sparrow> S3 -= Trident dosent it..
[06:52] <kaot> james_: when you say "not see your card" do you mean in network manager or iwconfig or what?
[06:52] <whiter> -= ?
[06:53] <whiter> well... worth a try now isnt it
[06:53] <whiter> brb
[06:53] <internat> stupid question what is the testing distro of ubuntu?
[06:53] <whiter> edgy elf probably
[06:53] <max_nooby_noob> ok, I simply added sudo to the command kaot recommended and it works
[06:53] <james_> kaot: both
[06:53] <Jack_Sparrow> whiter:  Trident chipset, you might just stick with vesa or get something a little newer for your video card
[06:53] <whiter> eh it isnt that important
[06:53] <kaot> james_: pcmcia or pci card or what?
[06:54] <Jack_Sparrow> whiter:  Nvidia would be the better choice (Any MOdel) over S3
[06:54] <whiter> i just found these parts laying around
[06:54] <whiter> this box is 500mhz/512mb ram and i just threw ubuntu on it hoping itd work
[06:54] <james_> kaot: i just entered modprobe | grep bcm... what should i look for?
[06:54] <Jack_Sparrow> whiter: and it worked, just not hi-res video
[06:54] <james_> kaot: it is built in
[06:55] <whiter> alright, let me try trident, brb.
[06:55] <james_> i am guessing pcmcia?
[06:55] <kaot> james_: well, you shouldn't get any output,basically.
[06:55] <kaot> from that command.
[06:55] <kaot> james_: oh so you've got some kind of light on the laptop that tells you when it's active?
[06:55] <james_> kaot: i got like 4 lines
[06:55] <kaot> rilly?
[06:55] <james_> kaot: yes
[06:56] <Servo888> Man picasa2 for linux is sweet! Nothing competes with it... Which is sad in a way, but true.
[06:57] <kaot> james_: you reboot since blacklisting it?
[06:57] <james_> kaot: yes
[06:58] <kaot> james_: hrm.  well, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, paste what you got there.
[06:59] <max_nooby_noob> ok now the installer asks me to Launch the Terminal Application/Window and run  /usr/X11R6/bin/aticonfig --initial to configure the driver
[06:59] <james_> kaot: strange thing is, my wireless card actually showed as active after i ran fwcutter, but when i tried to configure it in network settings, the prompt asking for my password for administrator mode would not come up...that happens a lot, so i rebooted
[06:59] <james_> when it came back up, network settings did not list my wireless card at all anymore
[07:00] <Jack_Sparrow> james, root password holds for 10 minutes
[07:00] <SurfnKid> lmsensors is a mess to install!
[07:00] <Jack_Sparrow> No need to re-enter for repetitive operations
[07:00] <Godsmacko> j #ubuntu-es
[07:00] <james_> Jack_Sparrow: it was not holding,  the prompt just would not come uo
[07:00] <james_> up*
[07:00] <arooni-linux> i'm trying to get eclipse to see my subversion directory stored in /mnt/repostitory ... i tried typing in file:///mnt/repository, and it gives me back an error message that '/home/oem/file:/mnt' does not exist.... any ideas?
[07:00] <james_> kaot: i will pastebin that for u, brb
[07:01] <Jack_Sparrow> james, it just does not need to be entered again for 10 minute, someone said 5 but I read it was 10
[07:01] <max_nooby_noob> doesn't make sense
[07:01] <mooseman447> does anybody know how to make xchat automatically accept dcc files?
[07:01] <ljlolel> not 15?
[07:02] <max_nooby_noob> it asks me to run a file that I can't see on my sys: aticonfig
[07:02] <Jack_Sparrow>  DO I hear 20... No I read it as 10
[07:02] <Jack_Sparrow> max_nooby_noob: did you try to just go to term and type that
[07:02] <max_nooby_noob> I'll try
[07:03] <Ackeubu_> Hey guys, im trying to add music to my girls ipod. I use rythmbox. but the ipod seems to be locked somehow. I dont know how to add music to it? can she only addmusic from her mac??
[07:03] <maagimies> mooseman447, are you actually sure you want to receive files automatically when some creep decides sends you donkey porn? :E
[07:03] <max_nooby_noob> a sh*tload of info popped up
[07:03] <mooseman447> maagimies lol yea if im going to be away id rather get it then delete when i return
[07:03] <bur[n] er> has anyone browsed files or synced with a  windows mobile 5 device with Dapper
[07:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Probably not the best description
[07:04] <james_> kaot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17217
[07:04] <maagimies> but mooseman447, it's in the preferences, in the file transfer part
[07:04] <Jack_Sparrow> HEy Gang, Time for me to go to bed.  Just stopped in to stir the pot...
[07:04] <james_> Jack_Sparrow: i hear ya
[07:04] <kaot> james_: oh hell i'm a tard.  lsmod | grep bcm
[07:04] <james_> lol
[07:04] <kaot> wrong command
[07:04] <kaot> lol
[07:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Goodnight
[07:05] <mooseman447> wtf thats the 3rd time today i missed somethng so obvious!!!
[07:05] <james_> kaot: ok brb
[07:05] <kleedrac> Does anyone have time to help me get print sharing working?
[07:05] <ljlolel> what is this lsmod thing?
[07:05] <maagimies> ljlolel, lsmod lists all the kernel modules that are loaded :)
[07:05] <ljlolel> cool
[07:05] <ljlolel> what time is it where you are?
[07:06] <maagimies> ljlolel, me? 08:06 :D
[07:06] <james_> Jack_Sparrow: good night
[07:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Good luck James..
[07:06] <ljlolel> wow, it's 1am here
[07:06] <maagimies> kewl
[07:06] <ljlolel> gnight...
[07:07] <aaron_> hello, im trying to do "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre", but when I do it says error: Failed dependencies. Is there a way I can force it to install the dep's too?
[07:07] <james_> kaot: ok i entered that command and it did nothing
[07:07] <hey560> !java
[07:07] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:07] <hey560> !multiverse
[07:07] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:07] <kaot> james_: good.  ok.  sudo ndiswrapper -l
[07:08] <james_> kaot: nothing again
[07:08] <kaot> nothing at all?  it should give some output even if there's nothing installed
[07:08] <kaot> james_: do you have ndiswrapper-utils installed right now?
[07:09] <james_> oops, it needs a password lol
[07:09] <kaot> ...
[07:09] <kaot> lol
[07:09] <james_> kaot: ok, it says no drivers installed
[07:10] <EvilTechMonkey> whats up people
[07:10] <james_> kaot: i think i have utils installed, lemme check
[07:10] <kaot> james_: what's the output from lspci | grep Broadcom ?
[07:10] <kaot> james_: if that was a valid command it's installed
[07:11] <rtux> Hello everybody. It's 8:00 am here.. good morning :)
[07:11] <kaot> 0100 here.  good uh... dead of night.
[07:11] <rtux> haha kaot
[07:11] <maagimies> good morning rtux :)
[07:12] <auge02> hy
[07:12] <aaron_> hey, when I type java --version... it gives me the license agreement again and then down at the bottom it says error: Failed dependencies, how can I fix that?
[07:12] <rtux> hi maagimies
[07:12] <aaron_> I did as that link said
[07:12] <aaron_> in !java
[07:12] <rtux> Guys, does anyone know what this means: "No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled" ???
[07:12] <james_> kaot: should i pastebin that?
[07:12] <kaot> james_: should only be one line, right?
[07:12] <james_> kaot: 2 lines
[07:12] <Xgates> Does anyone a command I can run to remove broken symlinks in a directory?
[07:13] <Xgates> anyone know .....
[07:13] <kaot> james_: sure pastebin it i guess
[07:13] <RememberPOL> Hey, any ircops?
[07:13] <rtux> kaot.. do you know?
[07:13] <kaot> rtux: custom kernel?
[07:13] <rtux> Running ubuntu
[07:13] <rtux> I don't think so :)
[07:13] <whiter> back...
[07:14] <whiter> is there a way to use an older version of xorg or something?
[07:14] <kaot> rtux: well if you didn't compile your own kernel then it isn't.  I don't recall seeing that one, normally I'd say you don't have module support compiled into your kernel
[07:14] <kaot> but I dunno
[07:14] <whiter> anyone know how i can get and use an older version of xorg
[07:15] <james_> kaot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17218
[07:15] <rtux> kaot I am not sure what's the use of compiling the kernel and I don't know what it means. However, I was seeing my system log to find out why my system freezez from time to time, I realized that there is this error, maybe it contributes to system instability?
[07:15] <Xgates> anyone ??
[07:16] <lab2std> 
[07:16] <kaot> Xgates: play with synaptic?  dunno enough about apt yet, sorry
[07:16] <whiter> apt is preety easy
[07:16] <whiter> "apt-get install <package>" or to find a package "apt-cache search <string"
[07:17] <kaot> james_: oh that's lovely.  laptop, right?  did you google your make and model laptop to get more info on your wireless card?
[07:17] <kaot> cuz that's pretty sparse on info
[07:17] <kaot> however
[07:18] <james_> kaot: yes, it is a dell b130, dell truemobile 1470
[07:18] <kaot> ahh.
[07:18] <rtux> Guys, does anyone know what this means: "No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled" ???
[07:19] <james_> i just got thislaptop last night
[07:19] <arooni> i'm trying to get eclipse to see my subversion directory stored in /mnt/repostitory ... i tried typing in file:///mnt/repository, and it gives me back an error message that '/home/oem/file:/mnt' does not exist.... any ideas?
[07:19] <kaot> james_: ftp://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R63259.EXE
[07:19] <kaot> james_: someone on ubuntuforums has very similar laptop
[07:20] <kaot> james_: so you unzip that exe, and then ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf that you get from that file
[07:20] <rtux> are all admins asleep now?
[07:20] <kaot> james_: actually here's the link, second post down
[07:21] <tritium> rtux: what's the matter?
[07:21] <james_> kaot: i think i tried all of that
[07:21] <rtux> I need some info..
[07:21] <infeld> hello pycube!
[07:21] <rtux> tritium: Do you know what this means: "No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled" ???
[07:22] <kaot> james_: there's a few commands with changing params in /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5 ... do you remember doing those?
[07:22] <james_> kaot: was that person using breezy or dapper?
[07:22] <tritium> rtux: when do you see that?
[07:22] <james_> kaot: yes
[07:22] <rtux> I was trying to see the system log to find out what's the reason for occasional freezing of my system. I found this error somewhere I thought maybe it's the reason.
[07:23] <james_> kaot: i am wondering if i have messed some things up with all that i have tried.
[07:23] <kaot> james_: short answer is you're SOL for an easy answer I think.  I spent a few days on google and the forums pulling my hair out and ended up going back to ndiswrapper, and that still took me a few tries to get right.
[07:24] <kaot> james_: you may have but the main thing is you have to pick an approach, either bcm43xx kernel driver or ndiswrapper, and go from there.
[07:24] <rtux> tritium are you still there?
[07:24] <james_> kaot: funny thing is, the people in #bcm-users were really confident about their driver
[07:25] <kaot> james_: i got mine going with ndiswrapper, and the only thing I had to do to clean up bcm43xx was blacklist it.
[07:25] <james_> kaot: that is why i am thinking about just reinstalling kubuntu and going from scratch
[07:25] <kaot> james_: they may well be.  I'd like to see them get it working on my laptop.
[07:26] <james_> kaot: some seem to think this will all be a part of the next kernel
[07:26] <james_> 2.6.17 or whatever
[07:27] <kaot> james_: eventually.  last I knew bcm drivers were still very much a work in progress.  i mean you have to use fwcutter to get stuff out of windows files yourself to get them working half the time.
[07:27] <tritium> rtux: yes, here.  Please use my nick, so I notice the highlight
[07:27] <james_> yeah
[07:27] <kaot> that's um... not smooth.
[07:27] <james_> definitely not
[07:27] <whiter> anyone know how i can downgrade xorg
[07:27] <rtux> ok, I will do my best tritium.
[07:28] <james_> kaot: so you don't think that reinstalling is a bad idea either, huh??
[07:28] <tritium> whiter: why?
[07:28] <james_> i will hate to have to do it, but....
[07:28] <rockzman> What is the best terminal Emulator for a good appearance ?
[07:28] <rtux> tritium: This is what I said earlier: I was trying to see the system log to find out what's the reason for occasional freezing of my system. I found this error somewhere I thought maybe it's the reason.
[07:28] <NineTails> sup?
[07:28] <whiter> tritium because the older version supports my video card and this one doesnt
[07:28] <Ackeubu_> Hey how do i edit mp3 tags in a simple way??
[07:28] <NineTails> no
[07:28] <whiter> the drivers werent ported
[07:28] <tritium> whiter: really?  which card?
[07:28] <hawkaloogie> Ackeubu_, I use easytag
[07:28] <kaot> james_: you probably don't have to do it, and it probably won't work anyway.
[07:28] <tritium> rtux: I see.
[07:28] <james_> hmmm
[07:29] <kaot> james_: i didn't have to reinstall
[07:29] <whiter> an old S3 Trio
[07:29] <rockzman> Can anyone answer me what is the best terminal emulator for a good appearance
[07:29] <kaot> matter of fact i upgraded and mucked my stuff all up because i had both ndiswrapper and bcm43xx configs laying around and still got it to work
[07:29] <kaot> it's just a hair-pulling pain is all
[07:29] <whiter> maybe i can use the hoary repositories to install xorg again
[07:29] <james_> LOL
[07:29] <whiter> think that would work?
[07:29] <Ackeubu_> hawkaloogie thanks
[07:29] <tritium> whiter: not even xserver-xorg-driver-s3 ?
[07:29] <whiter> nope tritium
[07:30] <james_> well, i had better go to bed, i'llwork on all of this tomorrow
[07:30] <tritium> whiter: nor xserver-xorg-driver-s3virge?
[07:30] <whiter> none
[07:30] <kaot> james_: good luck
[07:30] <james_> kaot: i appreciate all of the help
[07:30] <whiter> heh
[07:30] <james_> ty
[07:30] <KenSentMe> rockzman: what's wrong with the standard terminals in (k)ubuntu?
[07:30] <james_> good night
[07:30] <rtux> tritium: no idea? :) you recommend anyone to help me?
[07:30] <whiter> i think im just gonna use the hoary repositories after i uninstall xorg
[07:30] <whiter> and install the old one
[07:30] <bur[n] er> haory?  you mean breezy/
[07:30] <tritium> rtux: what symptoms are you having?
[07:31] <whiter> no i ment hoary
[07:31] <bur[n] er> wow... so old
[07:31] <whiter> im using breezy right now
[07:31] <bur[n] er> use dapper :)
[07:31] <whiter> it doesnt matter
[07:31] <rtux> just freezing system from time to time.
[07:31] <whiter> dapper doesnt work for it either
[07:31] <bur[n] er> breezy's all old now ;)
[07:31] <rtux> just freezing system from time to time tritium
[07:31] <whiter> yes, thats my point
[07:31] <tritium> rtux: it would be best to look at the logs at the time of the freeze
[07:31] <bur[n] er> s3 trio... that doesn't work on dapper?  you sure?
[07:32] <whiter> yes
[07:32] <whiter> positive
[07:32] <tritium> rtux: next time that happens, note the time, and check the log files for messages near that timestamp
[07:32] <whiter> mine doesnt anyway, its cause the drivers werent ported
[07:32] <tritium> whiter: I would think that it is
[07:32] <bur[n] er> whiter: file a bug on launchpad?
[07:32] <whiter> theres already a few
[07:32] <whiter> its a known issue...
[07:32] <rtux> I did that tritium. You know what I saw? This: Jul  4 20:31:21 rtux-desktop -- MARK --
[07:32] <tritium> whiter: try to use periods, and not enter.  thanks...
[07:33] <rtux> tritium: That was all I could see at the time of freeze before rebooting
[07:33] <tritium> rtux: that doesn't telll me much
[07:33] <InnerFIRE> when will flash be updated for linux.. this is intolerable..
[07:33] <jorgeu> when the cows fly
[07:34] <rtux> tritium: do you think if I loaded system kernel modules it will help my system?
[07:34] <KenSentMe> InnerFIRE: i thought in 2007 there will be flash 9 for linux or something
[07:34] <tritium> InnerFIRE: nothing we can do about that
[07:34] <InnerFIRE> so what do us linux users do when we are on websites that require flash 8
[07:34] <tritium> rtux: no
[07:34] <jorgeu> remember that now macromedia is owned by adobe
[07:34] <InnerFIRE> well.. they are saying that they will go straight to 8.5
[07:34] <KenSentMe> InnerFIRE: i use Internet Explorer for linux ies4linux
[07:34] <rtux> tritium: that doesn't tell me much either :P
[07:34] <jorgeu> adobe doesn't care much about linux
[07:35] <InnerFIRE> ill check that out..
[07:35] <InnerFIRE> i installed firefox for windows.. using wine..
[07:35] <omglazers> Anyone here know anything about installing ubuntu and somehow changing the partitions manually if I don't have a program to do it automatically?
[07:35] <InnerFIRE> but it always shuts down randomly
[07:35] <InnerFIRE> its annoying
[07:35] <KenSentMe> InnerFIRE: check here, it worked for me, with flash 8 http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/index-en.html
[07:36] <jorgeu> omglazers: cheked if still exists the expert install
[07:37] <jorgeu> omglazers: ?
[07:37] <InnerFIRE> thanx
[07:37] <tritium> omglazers: you can do that with the standard installer
[07:37] <omglazers> tritium: The installer has some way of editing partitions I think but I have no clue how to do it and cant find a tutorial and im afraid to mess with it
[07:38] <tritium> omglazers: choose to manually partition, and it's fairly straightforward
[07:38] <Ackeubu_> hawkaloogie I dont get it. i mark a group of songs and write the artists name. i save the files and the tags are not updated... >(
[07:38] <omglazers> tritium: is there a tutoria you could point me to online
[07:39] <tritium> omglazers: not that I'm aware of
[07:39] <hawkaloogie> Ackeubu_, when you do a group you have to hit the little button on the right of the field
[07:39] <hawkaloogie> that will update ALL of the selected records
[07:39] <hawkaloogie> then you save, and then it works
[07:39] <Ackeubu_> hawkaloogie aaah thnaks
[07:40] <fightingfriends> where can I find logos of ubuntu, kubuntu and edubuntu?
[07:41] <crimsun> fightingfriends: in the artwork packages.
[07:41] <fightingfriends> crimsun: I'm not using ubuntu yet
[07:41] <crimsun> fightingfriends: it doesn't matter.
[07:41] <Phoul> anyone have skype working?
[07:41] <fightingfriends> crimsun: where are the packages?
[07:42] <Phoul> im trying to get skype working for me but i keep getting the same issue when running it
[07:42] <Phoul> The device is busy
[07:42] <crimsun> fightingfriends: CC.archive.ubuntu.com. Look for \*artwork\* on packages.ubuntu.com
[07:42] <fightingfriends> thanks crimsun
[07:43] <crimsun> fightingfriends: np
[07:43] <Phoul> Anyone know about skype? I really need to use it but i cant currently because of this "device busy" issue
[07:43] <JDStone1> happy 4th of july.  Question.  I noticed that BIND in Ubuntu dapper doesn't include the 'rndc' utility.  why is that?
[07:43] <piya_undergroun> can anyone to create a dailup connention using bluetooth
[07:44] <JDStone1> piya_undergroun: I believe that is possible
[07:45] <crimsun> JDStone1: I'm pretty sure that's in bind9.
[07:45] <JDStone1> crimsun: I don't have the utility
[07:45] <JDStone1> I thought so too
[07:45] <crimsun> !find rndc
[07:45] <ubotu> No packages matching 'rndc' could be found
[07:45] <crimsun> argh
[07:45] <piya_undergroun> jdstone if any MAN pages on bluetooth or any notes onconfiguring blueetooth modem
[07:45] <JDStone1> and I have dnsutils installed
[07:45] <Phoul> gah can anyone at all help me please this is a issue
[07:45] <JDStone1> piya_undergroun: sorry, no idea
[07:46] <Heretic> Hey all
[07:46] <rgg> hey.
[07:46] <JDStone1> ubotu: any ideas why I don't have it
[07:46] <Heretic> Im having trouble with my install
[07:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about any ideas why I don't have it
[07:46] <crimsun> JDStone1: they're definitely there.
[07:46] <Heretic> what do i burn the ISO in?
[07:46] <JDStone1> hmm
[07:46] <Heretic> Do i have to burn it at a specific speed?
[07:46] <crimsun> JDStone1:
[07:46] <crimsun> crimsun@garnish:/tmp/merges$ dpkg-deb -c /var/cache/apt/archives/bind9_1%3a9.3.2-2ubuntu1_i386.deb |grep 'bin/rndc'
[07:46] <crimsun> -rwxr-xr-x root/root     20128 2006-02-16 09:39:34 ./usr/sbin/rndc
[07:46] <JDStone1> hmm
[07:47] <JDStone1> i should have it then
[07:47] <rgg> is there any software or configuration or anything that can work as an alarm clock?
[07:47] <robnyc> !ati
[07:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:47] <Heretic> Any ideas guys?
[07:48] <JDStone1> crimsun: what package is that?  BIND9 package?
[07:48] <Healot> you can do it with either i)cdrecord ii) k3b iii)gnomebaker iv)xcdroast >> Heretic
[07:48] <Healot> in Windows, there is always Nero burning rom or freeware like burn-at-once
[07:49] <Heretic> thanks Healot is that on windows?
[07:49] <Heretic> causei m on windows lol
[07:49] <Heretic> i get this error with nero Healot
[07:49] <JDStone1> crimsun: I don't have the 3a9.3.2-2ubuntu1_i386.deb package anywhere on my comp
[07:49] <KenSentMe> !burniso > Heretic
[07:50] <Paladine> heretic was a good game
[07:51] <crimsun> JDStone1: grab the deb.
[07:51] <JDStone1> where?
[07:51] <Healot> Heretic: what would that be?
[07:51] <crimsun> JDStone1: sudo apt-get --reinstall -d install bind9
[07:52] <JDStone1> thanks
[07:52] <Heretic> "the entered block size does not correspond to the image length, the block size may be wrong. Do you want to correct the value? or ignore the problem"
[07:52] <Heretic> thats what i get when i try to burn it in nero.
[07:52] <Heretic> when i open to the image to burn it
[07:53] <Heretic> so i tried ignoring it and it says that the disk is stuffed at the ubunutu screen and theres a button saying "Reboot"
[07:53] <Heretic> and thats all i can press.
[07:54] <rtux> Can anybody tell me if that IS normal?? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d17221
[07:54] <JDStone1> I still don't have the deb
[07:54] <JDStone1> I searched for it
[07:55] <vincenz> how do I make my laptop start in init2 by default
[07:56] <rtux> Can anybody tell me if that IS normal?? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d17221
[07:56] <Heretic> any ideas Healot
[07:56] <Seveas> GOOOOOOOOOOOOOODMOOOOOOOOOORNING #ubuntu!
[07:56] <Healot> Heretic: have you checkout the MD5 checksum of the ISO image?
[07:56] <Healot> sounds like a corrupt ISO image to me
[07:56] <HedgeMage> Hehe... Good morning Seveas (or is that Robin Williams in disguise?)
[07:56] <Heretic> no how do i do that Healot?
[07:57] <Healot> in windows, google for md5sum
[07:57] <RobNyc_C> http://www.ycgf.org/
[07:57] <Seveas> HedgeMage, that'd be a very good disguise, no one would recognize me as Robin 
[07:57] <Healot> then run md5sum <iso image> and compare the value that is available at the ubuntu website, Heretic
[07:58] <Healot> if the values don't doesn't match, your ISO is broken
[07:58] <Seveas> rtux, looks ok
[07:58] <Healot> !md5
[07:58] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:58] <Seveas> vincenz, it already does =)
[07:58] <Healot> or follow that verifyisohowto link... Heretic
[07:58] <rtux> Seveas,  you think that it's not better to use fglrx's AGP support?
[07:59] <Seveas> not if it would cause conflicts 
[07:59] <Healot> the entered block size does not correspond to the image length >> i believe corrupt iso image caused this... Heretic
[07:59] <rtux> how would I know if it will or not ? :|
[07:59] <vincenz> Seveas: no it boots in init 5 (or 6).  The thing is that my battery charger died so I'd prefer it not wasting all that battery pwoer to launch X
[07:59] <erikh> is this a good place to ask questions about libglib-dev and libgtk-dev?
[07:59] <Seveas> vincenz, x == init 2
[08:00] <Seveas> (init 6 is reboot)
[08:00] <Seveas> erikh, sure
[08:00] <JDStone1> ok, I found the rndc utility
[08:00] <JDStone1> now whaT?
[08:00] <erikh> err, nm
[08:00] <erikh> sorry to bother
[08:00] <Seveas> erikh, hehe 
[08:04] <JDStone1> crimsun: thanks, i got it
[08:04] <xx_xx_> anyone know where there are free excel spreadsheets with geodata or location street data available?
[08:05] <Seveas> xx_xx_, this is an Ubuntu support channel, for other subjects, please use more appropriate channels
[08:05] <xx_xx_> my bad
[08:05] <woman> any body home?
[08:06] <woman> joined the room plze
[08:06] <Seveas> woman, ?
[08:07] <sn00p> How do I install a .bin file in ubuntu?
[08:07] <Seveas> sn00p, convert it to iso with bchunk and mount it
[08:07] <Seveas> !iso > sn00p
[08:07] <sn00p> Its google earth
[08:07] <Seveas> ah, that's a different story 
[08:08] <sn00p> any ideas?
[08:08] <Seveas> sn00p, sh googleearth.bin
[08:08] <vincenz> on another note, this is a bit OT, but...I have to set my proxy in skype, however the options is disabled (I guess until you're logged in), this seems to be a bit of a chicken-egg problem
[08:09] <sn00p> Seveas, ahh ok thanks
[08:09] <cyphase> :)
[08:09] <sn00p> ahh, this is neat, google earth for linux
[08:11] <RedSkies> I successfully installed Dapper Drake 6.06 Server... After that, i rebooted my computer and selected to load ubuntu in my GRUB bootloader, after it displayed the word "boot", my computer suddenly restarts itself... i can't load my ubuntu partition... help
[08:11] <cryptid> how should i open .exe files in linux.plz help?
[08:11] <hawkaloogie> cryptid, wine
[08:12] <RememberPOL> LOL google earth for linux sweeeet
[08:12] <Seveas> hawkaloogie, red or white?
[08:12] <hawkaloogie> Seveas, chardonney is white, no?
[08:12] <cryptid> hawkaloogie:what is wine?
[08:12] <RedSkies> google it cryptid
[08:12] <RedSkies> :)
[08:13] <hawkaloogie> cryptid, wine is windows emulator, or wine is not an emulator, or the only way to run windows binaries in linux
[08:13] <RedSkies> anyone here who can help me with my server problem?
[08:14] <bur[n] er> RememberPOL: there's picasa for linux now :)
[08:14] <RedSkies> I'm now beginning to install the Server edition for the 3rd time...
[08:14] <cryptid> hawkaloogie:after intalling it can i open .exe files?
[08:15] <hawkaloogie> cryptid, tias, Try It And See, the best way to find if something works.
[08:15] <RedSkies> anyone who know's things about Ubuntu's Server? -_- I could really use some help
[08:16] <cryptid> hawkaloogie:thank you!
[08:16] <Seveas> RedSkies, what's the problem?
[08:17] <RedSkies> i can't load my server
[08:17] <RedSkies> from grub
[08:17] <RedSkies> After choosing my Ubuntu Server Partition in the GRUB Bootloader, it loads the partition and displays messages including "boot" then after then, it restarts my computer...
[08:17] <Wiseguy> hey guys, whats the default root password?
[08:18] <bvali> your user password
[08:18] <Wiseguy> hmm i tried that and it failed
[08:18] <bvali> use sudo
[08:18] <Lynoure> !sudo
[08:18] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:18] <RedSkies> Wiseguy, have you even tried enabling the root account in Ubuntu?
[08:18] <Flannel> Wiseguy: there is no root password.
[08:18] <Jim_the_Coder> ubuntu doesnt have a root account by default
[08:18] <Flannel> !tell Wiseguy about root
[08:18] <Lynoure> Wiseguy: and the password sudo wants in your own
[08:18] <Flannel> Wiseguy: that page talks all about it
[08:19] <RedSkies> root user in Ubuntu is disabled by default
[08:19] <RedSkies> anyway, back to my server problem..... can anyone help me with it.... ? :(
[08:23] <watson540> hey does anyone know how top get rid of these pesky desktop icons in gnome?
[08:23] <Jim_the_Coder> can u be more specific?
[08:23] <RedSkies> delete?
[08:24] <RedSkies> lolz
[08:24] <maagimies> watson540, perhaps delete them? :] 
[08:24] <watson540> nooo
[08:24] <watson540> I guess i could move them though
[08:24] <revilot> does anyone know anything about getting a creative prodikeys keyboard recognized in ubuntu
[08:24] <cef> watson540: which icons are you referring to?
[08:24] <Flannel> watson540: you really just need to be more specific
[08:24] <maagimies> watson540, and if your talking about the device icons, you can set nautilus not to display them by gconf-editor
[08:25] <watson540> well i juxst wanted an optin like in windows just to shgut off the whole icon thing altogether
[08:25] <Flannel> revilot: you talking about the keyboard working at all? or extra keys on it? or what?
[08:26] <revilot> Flannel: the extra keys
[08:26] <Seveas> mornin' lilo
[08:26] <Flannel> revilot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[08:27] <revilot> Flannel: sorry I should have mentioned the extra keys im talking about are like keyboard keys
[08:28] <Flannel> revilot: what?  That page should still work.
[08:28] <Flannel> revilot: oh, midi keyboard?
[08:28] <revilot> Flannel: ya sry
[08:28] <cef> watson540: are you talking destop, or toolbar?
[08:29] <Heretic_01> Hey guys
[08:29] <Heretic_01> im back
[08:29] <Heretic_01> someone stole my nick :@
[08:29] <Heretic_01> Healot mate, the checksums are different :(
[08:29] <Heretic_01> thats bad isnt it/
[08:29] <Seveas> Heretic_01, not anymore 
[08:29] <Seveas> <-- Heretic has quit (Connection timed out)
[08:29] <revilot> Flannel: would that page still be applicable?
[08:30] <Healot> Heretic_01: hum I guess download the "ISO again?
[08:30] <Heretic_01> yeah
[08:30] <Heretic_01> should i not use a download manager this time :S
[08:30] <Flannel> revilot: couldn't hurt to try.
[08:30] <cef> Heretic_01: or use rsync
[08:31] <revilot> Flannel: thx ill do that.  Thanks for the link
[08:31] <Heretic_01> whats rsync?
[08:31] <cef> Heretic_01: which iso are you downloading?
[08:31] <Jim_the_Coder> check the md5 values on ur iso disks
[08:31] <rpedro> Heretic_01: you getting the livecd or alternate install
[08:31] <Heretic_01> 0D94CA1DB8D8AC83063E28B60E9061AC *ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[08:31] <Heretic_01> sorry about the checksum
[08:32] <Heretic_01> PC (Intel x86) desktop CD
[08:32] <Heretic_01> For almost all PCs. This includes most machines with Intel/AMD/etc type processors and almost all computers that run Microsoft Windows. Choose this if you are at all unsure.
[08:32] <Heretic_01> that one.
[08:32] <cef> Heretic_01: rsync works by comparing the differences in the files and only sending the differences. you need to point rsync at a valid rsync server for it to work, and preferrably have a version of the file you're trying to update
[08:33] <Heretic_01> hmmm
[08:33] <Heretic_01> I might just download the ISO again
[08:33] <Heretic_01> and not use a download manager this time
[08:34] <Heretic_01> just use firefox
[08:34] <Heretic_01> do you reckon i'll be right?
[08:34] <lasindi[lappy] > Hi all, I'm trying to use xvfb-run for a program I need to run from a webpage. I've been googling for an xvfb tutorial, but I can't find any, and the man page hasn't been much help. I'm merely running the program with the command "xvfb-run program"; is that the correct way to use xvfb-run or am I missing something?
[08:35] <Heretic_01> Alright im off, will bbl guys
[08:35] <Heretic_01> Thansk for the help
[08:35] <Heretic_01> im laggin to hell!
[08:35] <Heretic_01> bbl
[08:35] <jme> !enter
[08:35] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:35] <sn00p> there is a web site that I goto that requires windows media player, How can I change the default mediaplayer so firefox can use a different media player since you dont have media player on linux?
[08:38] <anosa> how to open password protected .rar file?? i've used unrar, >$unrar -e filename.rar but nothing happened
[08:39] <whitepyro> Is there a better irc client then this gaim p.o.s. :D
[08:39] <Zaire> http://pastebin.ca/79331 can anyone tell me whats wrong with this config
[08:39] <Flannel> whitepyro: xchat
[08:40] <bvali> anosa: unrar e -p filename.rar
[08:40] <bvali> not sure it works
[08:40] <blocky> anyone got any idea why my electric guitar is only coming out of the right headphone when i plug it into my computer?
[08:41] <WarOfAttrition> I like konversation
[08:41] <rpedro> blocky: you probably need to set some volumes in  the volume control app
[08:41] <WarOfAttrition> xchat needs a tray agent
[08:41] <sn00p> I'm working the mplayer-plugin for firefox, it wont play the video of the mms stream how come?
[08:41] <whitepyro_> ah  this is better
[08:41] <whitepyro_> :D
[08:42] <necrite> mm any one can helpme with xgl.. in ubuntu-xgl noone write anything
[08:42] <YondaII> Hi guys I'm using NetworkManager with a wireless network, but it drops out at random times. I can't find out whats causing this!
[08:42] <RedSkies> argh
[08:43] <RedSkies> i cant load this ubuntu server
[08:43] <whitepyro> i'm a linux noob and this probably is simple. How can I make a shortcut to my /var/www dir? :D
[08:43] <whitepyro> whats the prob red?
[08:43] <RedSkies> i can't load my Ubuntu Server partition
[08:43] <anosa>  bvali: anosa: unrar e -p filename.rar >>> thanx a lot, it works
[08:43] <blocky> rpedro, im running e17 but i have gnome installed
[08:44] <blocky> everything looks okay in alsamixer afaik
[08:44] <blocky> any suggestions?
[08:44] <RedSkies> after selecting my ubuntu server partition from GRUB, it loads the server up to the "boot" part then it restarts my computer....
[08:44] <rpedro> blocky: alsamixer will do
[08:44] <whitepyro> so grub is loading?
[08:44] <RedSkies> yup
[08:44] <jme> whitepyro, what sort of shortcut do you want -- a GNOME shortcut? A link in the filesystem?
[08:44] <RedSkies> it is
[08:44] <watson540> whitepyro: ln -s makes a symbolic link
[08:44] <jastarafi> yo
[08:44] <jastarafi> don't know
[08:44] <whitepyro> Have you even got into ubuntu ?
[08:45] <RedSkies> it even loads my Ubuntu Server....
[08:45] <whitepyro> if so did u update? maybe a bad kernal
[08:45] <RedSkies> BUT
[08:45] <whitepyro> a link to my /var/www dir.
[08:45] <RedSkies> after the "boot" word, it restartrs my computer
[08:45] <whitepyro> I hate opening my computer then going in there. Ez to have a short cut to just open that dir so i can continue to program :D
[08:45] <whitepyro> Sounds like a bad kernal
[08:46] <whitepyro> I had that happen after i updated..
[08:46] <RedSkies> ?
[08:46] <whitepyro> But it just said can't mount
[08:46] <whitepyro> hehe
[08:46] <RedSkies> it does mount
[08:46] <RedSkies> but
[08:46] <RedSkies> it restarts my computer
[08:46] <Ikaru1> I recently tried installing google picasa, and whenever I launch it the the program goes black.  I tried looking things up on the forum with no luck. any ideas or suggestions?
[08:46] <xukun> this is realy very anoughing since I upgraded to dapper printing is not working
[08:46] <jme> whitepyro, ln -s
[08:46] <NineTails> hi
[08:46] <whitepyro> ln -s /var/www
[08:46] <whitepyro> ?
[08:46] <whitepyro> like that?
[08:47] <RedSkies> its great that all you're problems are associated with a "working" ubuntu installation.. heck, i cant even load my ubuntu
[08:47] <Flannel> RedSkies: try booting to your old kernel
[08:47] <RedSkies> i dont have a new kernel
[08:47] <whitepyro> ah thx jme
[08:47] <whitepyro> :D
[08:47] <whitepyro> did u use the desktop version or server iso?
[08:47] <jme> whitepyro, use the man pages
[08:48] <RedSkies> i used the SERVER
[08:48] <whitepyro> My server iso did not work so i did the desktop and setup the server by hand
[08:48] <Flannel> RedSkies: oh, right. sorry, crossed two messages.  Yeah, how'd you install?  Server iso? or, Alternate ISO with server selected?
[08:48] <RedSkies> i burned the ISO to my cd
[08:48] <RedSkies> Server ISO
[08:48] <kitten-> So like, I've got a bunch of mp3s on my Windows machine, but I can't play them in xmms direct from the SMB share because, apparently, xmms doesn't speak smb.  Anyone have any suggestions other than opening stuff in totem?
[08:49] <Flannel> RedSkies: sounds like a bad install, it happens.  try reinstalling.
[08:49] <RedSkies> ive tried reinstalling for the 5th time
[08:49] <YondaII> Hi guys I'm using NetworkManager with a wireless network, but it drops out at random times. I can't find out whats causing this! What could be causing it and how can I stop it from doing it?
[08:49] <whitepyro> my xmms works with mp3s :D
[08:49] <blocky> is there any way to set alsa in 'mono' mode, to mix all the channels
[08:50] <WarOfAttrition> kitten-: suggestion? copy them to the linux system
[08:50] <kitten-> WarOfAttrition: Yeah, the idea is to not have to do that. :P
[08:50] <WarOfAttrition> or use a better xmms based player like Audacious
[08:50] <cryptid> hawkaloogie:after installing wine how do i open an .exe file.plz help?
[08:50] <RedSkies> argh
[08:50] <rpedro_> blocky: have tried upping the volume and unmute (press M) on the mic and line channels?
[08:51] <WarOfAttrition> kitten-: well that's a nitpick, xmms sucks anyways
[08:51] <kitten-> I like xmms.
[08:51] <RedSkies> simple problems like the how-to stuff can be solved by Google searching or this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[08:52] <WarOfAttrition> xmms had it's day, but it's way too outdated now
[08:52] <WarOfAttrition> use beep-media-player or audacious
[08:56] <jme> Anyone with experience installing the Atmel firmware?
[08:56] <Teejay_wp> hi
[08:56] <Teejay_wp> I am new to Ubuntu how do I upgrade via the web from Ubuntu 5.10 to the latest version?
[08:56] <rpedro> blocky: or you can install gnome-alsamixer > 'sudo apt-get install gnome-alsamixer'
[08:57] <rpedro> blocky: it has a 'mix mono' option, dunno if it works though
[08:57] <Flannel> Teejay_wp: gksudo update-manager
[08:57] <Flannel> Teejay_wp: you should be asked if you want to upgrade
[08:59] <cubikdice> hey guys, is there anything i can configure so ubuntu wont ask for the CDROM to be incerted when i try to apt-install a program? this is on a server install of ubuntu breezy
[08:59] <Flannel> cubikdice: remove the CDrom from your repositories
[09:00] <RedSkies> hay
[09:01] <cubikdice> thanks
[09:02] <coopster> Does anyone have a good howto or info on how to play 3gp videos under ubuntu?  i can't find anything on the forums or google
[09:03] <LIMESERVER> w00t
[09:03] <LIMESERVER> hanks Flannel
[09:03] <squiggly> anyone know if the jetaudio X5 works on ubuntu?
[09:04] <squiggly> (or is accessible
[09:04] <squiggly> )
[09:04] <spades> jetaudio or iaudio?
[09:04] <squiggly> jetaudio
[09:05] <squiggly> the jetaudio iaudio x5 basically
[09:05] <squiggly> same thing
[09:05] <spades> yea, it mounts like any harddrive
[09:05] <squiggly> very good :)
[09:05] <spades> just mount it and navigate to the music folder or wherever you need to go
[09:06] <YondaII> Hi guys I'm using NetworkManager with a wireless network, but it drops out at random times. I can't find out whats causing this! What could be causing it and how can I stop it from doing it?
[09:07] <BeanBag> How can I get NTOP to work on ubuntu?
[09:07] <cubikdice> whats a good lite window manager window manager for a server install?
[09:08] <polpak> cubikdice: fluxbox is pretty minimal
[09:08] <concept10> cubikdice, bash shell :)
[09:08] <compengi> i want to compile a sources for a game flightgear how do i do it?
[09:09] <cubikdice> polpak, achully i just installed openbox..but i dont know how to run it...it needs a display..so now i guess i'll install gdm..?
[09:10] <YondaII> Can anyone recommend a good mp3 tag editor?
[09:10] <someothernick> compengi: sudo apt-get install flightgear
[09:10] <compengi> hey someothernick
[09:10] <someothernick> hi
[09:14] <cyphase> there needs to be a project that only packages games
[09:15] <rpedro> YondaII: easytag , or ex falso, for gnome
[09:15] <cyphase> Nexuiz, Sauerbraten, Tremulous, etc
[09:16] <YondaII> rpedro, thanks
[09:25] <Trackilizer> I have a FAT32 drive for data and an NTFS drive for windows, i can accses the data drive with no problems but everytime i try to go onto the NTFS drive which is mounted as "hda1" i get a message saging i don't have permison.
[09:25] <Trackilizer> How do i change this?
[09:26] <bvali> check fstab
[09:26] <maagimies> Trackilizer, in the fstab entry of the ntfs drive, add "umask=0000"
[09:26] <bvali> you must have an umask for the NTFS partition
[09:26] <Healot> change the "defaults" with the option "umask=xxxx" <<
[09:26] <bvali> umask=0 should do :D
[09:27] <maagimies> :p
[09:27] <Trackilizer> And how exatly do i accses the "fstab"
[09:27] <Healot> for NTFS "ro,umask=0222"
[09:27] <bvali> the file is located in /etc/fstab
[09:27] <maagimies> Trackilizer, its a file, /etc/fstab
[09:27] <Trackilizer> OK, thanks
[09:27] <Healot> for FAT32 rw,umask=0000 or rw,umask=0
[09:28] <bvali> you could add users too... like "rw,umask=0,users" if i remember
[09:28] <Trackilizer> So, do i add "umask=0000" under <dump> or <pass>?
[09:32] <Trackilizer> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    umask=0         0       0
[09:33] <Trackilizer> That's what i have now, but it still won't work
[09:33] <bvali> u must remount it
[09:34] <Healot> umount and mount again
[09:34] <dli> Trackilizer, add uid= , gid= to the options
[09:34] <nxvl> hi
[09:35] <nxvl> i have a laptop with no floppie discs drive and a fuck'd up CD-ROM drive, and i need toisntall Ubuntu un it
[09:35] <nxvl> i have think on installing it via netboot using PXE, but i dont find any manuals
[09:35] <Healot> do you have a NIC
[09:35] <cryptid> how do i open rm to mp3 converter.lnk file.plz help?
[09:35] <nxvl> whats that?
[09:36] <Healot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation >> Follow the next link on that page, nxvl
[09:36] <llama32> what's the name of that user-mode filesystem module? is it [likely to be]  installed by default on most modern distros?
[09:36] <nxvl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[09:37] <nxvl> here? i need floppies for that
[09:37] <Trackilizer> I used the "sudo mount -a" commad to remount, but i still can't accses
[09:37] <Healot> nxvl: no... just boot from LAN
[09:37] <nxvl> ok
[09:37] <Healot> just like your Solaris lab does
[09:37] <nxvl> i was a little confused cause there it says floppies
[09:37] <Healot> you need another PC with NIC too... that has the installer running
[09:38] <bvali> Trackilizer: paste the line with the NTFS partition from fstab
[09:38] <dli> Healot, do you know this howto works for USB stick? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[09:38] <Trackilizer> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    umask=000       0       0
[09:38] <nxvl> Healot: whats NIC?
[09:39] <bvali> and the rw?
[09:39] <Healot> info NIC - Network Interface Card
[09:39] <Trackilizer> That's all the is to the line.
[09:39] <Healot> dli: it should, but a lot of hard work :)
[09:40] <bvali> try it like this: /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs rw,users,umask=0 0 0
[09:40] <dli> Healot, I tried once, but the linuxrc failed in finding the livecd root, after seeking /dev/hd* , while it should be looking for /dev/sd*
[09:40] <cryptid> how do i open .lnk files.plz help?
[09:40] <bvali> .Ink are windows shortcuts right?
[09:41] <cryptid> bvali:ya.how do i open them?
[09:41] <bvali> you can't :P
[09:41] <Trackilizer> bvali, still won't work.
[09:42] <bvali> Trackilizer: umount /dev/hda1 and then `mount -a`
[09:42] <llama32> bvali: isn't it .lnk? seems more logical for a link...
[09:43] <bvali> :)
[09:43] <Healot> that sounds like Windows shortcut
[09:43] <bvali> it is one
[09:43] <Healot> IT IS Windows shortcut
[09:44] <bvali> most of the windows software installed via wine will put 2 shortcuts to the desktop. One will be .lnk (not valid :D ) and one will be the good one
[09:44] <Trackilizer> bvali, that did the trick
[09:44] <bvali> good :D
[09:44] <Trackilizer> Thank you very much
[09:44] <Trackilizer> !!
[09:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about !!
[09:44] <bvali> np
[09:44] <bvali> although a .lnk file is elligible for linux shortcuts since linux doesn't care about extensions
[09:45] <w0j> hmm
[09:45] <w0j> hello
[09:45] <w0j> why do i hawe ipv6 thats work poorrly :)
[09:45] <w0j> can i remove them and setup my own tunnel ?
[09:46] <snoops> how can I bind mouse buttons to other mouse buttons in dapper?
[09:47] <Jurgeni> I have ubuntu installed on laptop, when I play a DVD with totem just after computer has started it works fine, but when I try it after waking up from suspend it starts to play but then there is only blank screen. After reboot it is all right again. Any ideas why?
[09:47] <dxdemetriou> The sudo /etc/init.d/dbus-1 restart doesn't work on Dapper. What can I do?
[09:48] <scheuri> hi all
[09:48] <w0j> Jurgeni: instalen mplayer no gui :=)
[09:48] <dli> Jurgeni, can you run glxgears after suspending
[09:49] <Jurgeni> dli: have to try..
[09:49] <w0j> bhha
[09:49] <Jurgeni> w0j: that's not solving the actual problem ;)
[09:49] <w0j> can i remove my ipv6 stuff ?
[09:49] <george_looney> hello all
[09:49] <w0j> Jurgeni: mplayer is the solation on meny probs
[09:49] <w0j> :P
[09:50] <w0j> bha
[09:50] <w0j> cant spell
[09:50] <george_looney> how do I disable 'root' the way it was originally on install in Dapper
[09:50] <dli> !root > george_looney
[09:50] <blocky> !root > blocky
[09:51] <Jurgeni> dli: it works fine
[09:52] <dli> Jurgeni, then it seems to be a totem bug :(
[09:52] <dli> Jurgeni, or gnome bug
[09:53] <Jurgeni> yep...
[09:53] <Jurgeni> maybe I should still try that mplayer :)
[09:53] <w0j> hmm
[09:53] <george_looney> thanks dli
[09:54] <w0j> why do i hawe ipv6 in my ifconfig :o
[09:54] <dli> w0j, comment it out :)
[09:54] <scheuri> w0j: its standard AFAIK
[09:54] <Jurgeni> I think it is totem, because although I close the gui after hanging the process still remains and I have to kill it
[09:54] <w0j> OK
[09:55] <bvali> w0j check /etc/sysctl.conf for ipv6 stuff and /etc/networking(orsomething)
[09:55] <w0j> bvali:  thanks
[09:55] <londondave> hi all, I'm still struggling with building eagle-usb driver for linux, it's for the sagem fast 800 modem, configure script can just not find the kernel-source
[09:55] <Healot> !linux-source
[09:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about linux-source
[09:55] <Healot> !info linux-source
[09:55] <ubotu> linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.23 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[09:56] <Kobalt_67> sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[09:56] <dli> londondave, do you have linux-headers?
[09:56] <londondave> i have the source installed, the headers installed all of build-essential I am totally stumped
[09:57] <dli> londondave, since you have both linux-source and headers installed, I suspect you installed the wrong copy of linux-headers
[09:57] <hangfire> every time I try and lower the res on ubuntu, after entering my user name and password it goes back to the old res. Anyone know why?
[09:57] <Healot> !info m-a
[09:57] <Kobalt_67> londondave, you know that eagle-usb isn't working well under Dapper ?
[09:57] <ubotu> Package m-a does not exist in dapper
[09:58] <Healot> !info module-assistant
[09:58] <ubotu> module-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.10.2 (dapper), package size 72 kB, installed size 368 kB
[09:58] <dli> londondave, you need only one of them, linux-source (custom built kernel), or linux-headers (pre-built)
[09:58] <dli> ! fixres > hangfire
[09:59] <kOpter> My Z key is not working :) I can type a capital Z, but not a small one.  The key works fine in Windows...
[09:59] <ompaul> hangfire, there is a little tick box that says "make default"
[09:59] <londondave> dli: so I don't need the kernel source If i have the correct linux-headers?
[09:59] <kOpter> Could anything be bound to it?
[09:59] <dli> londondave, if you don't build your kernel, you don't need linux-source
[09:59] <hangfire> thanks bigtime dli
[10:00] <w0j> bvali:  thanks
[10:00] <bvali> np :d
[10:00] <ompaul> !test
[10:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about test
[10:00] <dli> tsume, you got too many friends? or it's a business?
[10:00] <londondave> dli: thanks it's the dapper prebuilt kernel, so I just need the corrosponding headers package, if I do 'uname -r' and get exactly that linux-headers package it should build?
[10:00] <hangfire> and thx JackS
[10:00] <tsume> dli: business friends, friends, etc
[10:01] <w0j> bvali:  cant find anything to make it only use ipv4 :o
[10:01] <tsume> dli: I'm the type of person who spreads good or bad very easily :)
[10:01] <w0j> bvali: any ideas
[10:01] <dli> londondave, yes, have you tried the m-a way?
[10:01] <vlt> Hello. I have installed (k)ubuntu Dapper and there's one problem that drives me mad: gam_server. There are running gam_server processes for each user and they consume about 20 % of cpu. How can I solve that?
[10:01] <bvali> not really... haven't used ipv6
[10:01] <londondave> dli: whats that?
[10:01] <dli> !m-a > londondave
[10:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about m-a
[10:01] <ompaul> !test
[10:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about test
[10:02] <w0j> :o
[10:02] <tsume> vlt: hmmm, what was gam_server part of?
[10:02] <concept10> anyone know how to get rid of mesa and turn DRI back on for ATI cards using the ati and/or radeon driver?
[10:02] <dli> ! modules-assistant > londondave
[10:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about modules-assistant
[10:02] <JDStone> any idea why when I do 'make menuconfig' over ssh, the menuconfig looks all messed up?
[10:03] <w0j> bvali: where can i find and remowe the buildin ipv6 ?
[10:03] <tsume> oh, gamin
[10:03] <freddyubuntu> I have an AVI file , I want to burn it to CD , so I can watch it with my VCD player.... how can I do it...?
[10:03] <bvali> w0j i have no clue
[10:03] <dli> ! module-assistant > londondave
[10:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about module-assistant
[10:03] <w0j> ok
[10:03] <tsume> hmm, I do remember seeing gamin run, what does it start with I wonder :)
[10:03] <londondave> dli: is modules-assistant a kind of script?
[10:03] <CptAJ> Good evening fine people of the interwebs
[10:04] <ba> cubikdice, you alive?
[10:04] <vlt> tsume: google tells me gamin ...
[10:04] <bvali> v0j: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6841.html
[10:04] <dli> londondave, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=module-assistant&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[10:04] <Patrick_> hey all, I'm trying to install a package from source in Cygwin, but when I try to do 'make insta'' it gives me an error saying something like no rule target for install.  what package should I install with the cygwin setup to remedy this?
[10:04] <bvali> w0j: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-87798.html
[10:04] <Patrick_> make install*
[10:04] <freddyubuntu> how to burn an AVI movie to a CD and watch it with VCD ?
[10:04] <JDStone> why would make menuconfig look all distorted when I do it over ssh?
[10:04] <Hexagon> hello
[10:04] <tsume> vlt: yeah, wait ahead :) I just didn't know what gamin was used for
[10:04] <CptAJ> I figured I'd say hi and get acquainted with the place. I dont really have a question yet but I'm sure I will =P
[10:05] <Hexagon> I have Ubuntu Linux but I can't install any applications
[10:05] <Patrick_> Hexagon, what are you trying to install?
[10:05] <bvali> how come Hexagon?
[10:05] <Hexagon> Skype, Wine
[10:05] <dli> londondave, yes, after you installed the module-source in /usr/src/modules/ , m-a autos the building process, preferred over make-kpkg modules-image
[10:05] <tsume> vlt: gam_server isn't running on mine right now actually. I remember seeing it, it must have disappeared on me :)
[10:05] <Patrick_> Hexagon, www.winehq.com for installation of wine.
[10:05] <Patrick_> Hexagon, better yet, use Automatix
[10:05] <Patrick_> Hexagon, search the Ubuntu forums.
[10:05] <vlt> tsume: I think it's the Gnome (wth gnome on Kubuntu?!?) file alteration monitor.
[10:05] <bvali> Hexagon: open a console: Alt+F2, "gnome-terminal"
[10:05] <freddyubuntu> ha ha nobody even looks at me
[10:06] <bvali> or with Synaptic
[10:06] <hawk> kg/am
[10:06] <freddyubuntu> i am so unlike able
[10:06] <tsume> vlt: yeah, I'm running Gnome right now ;)
[10:06] <Patrick_> bvali, Automatix would do much better for him ;)
[10:06] <londondave> so I need to put the eag-usb source in /usr/src/modules
[10:06] <Hexagon> bvali, and?
[10:06] <tsume> vlt: I suppose you're running Breezy?
[10:06] <bvali> sudo apt-get install wine
[10:06] <tsume> erm
[10:06] <tsume> I mean Dapper
[10:06] <bvali> for example
[10:06] <bvali> try what Patrick said
[10:06] <vlt> tsume: no a fresh Dapper stable
[10:06] <tsume> someone slap me :)
[10:06] <Hexagon> I tried this
[10:06] <freddyubuntu> :(
[10:06] <JDStone> why would make menuconfig look all distorted when I do it over ssh?
[10:06] <w0j> bvali: oohh i did that but the wrong way :P
[10:06] <Patrick_> bvali, wine isant in the repository's by default I don't think...
[10:06] <tsume> vlt: it works here :D
[10:07] <bvali> you can enable tons of repositories from Synaptic
[10:07] <dli> londondave, doesn't help, if the source doesn't have scripts for debian/ubuntu
[10:07] <tsume> vlt: did you try updating?
[10:07] <bvali> :D just 2 clicks or something ;))
[10:07] <freddyubuntu> I have an AVI file , I want to burn it to CD , so I can watch it with my VCD player.... how can I do it...?
[10:07] <Patrick_> bvali, if he had a debian package, it would be something like, sudo dpkg -i wine.deb
[10:07] <freddyubuntu> somebody pay attention to me
[10:07] <vlt> tsume: updateing to ehar?
[10:07] <freddyubuntu> or i will sucide
[10:07] <Patrick_> loo
[10:07] <Patrick_> lol
[10:07] <bvali> hehe
[10:07] <vlt> tsume: updateing to what?
[10:07] <bvali> what does google say freddy
[10:07] <Patrick_> I could say the same, freddy....
[10:07] <dli> londondave, how do you build it now? make ?
[10:07] <JDStone> why would make menuconfig look all distorted when I do it over ssh?
[10:07] <tsume> freddyubuntu: 75USD/hr and I'll listen to you ;)
[10:07] <Patrick_> nobody has touched my question
[10:07] <tsume> vlt: fetching updates
[10:07] <freddyubuntu> pl Tsume
[10:07] <freddyubuntu> ok
[10:07] <hawk> who from Russia?
[10:07] <freddyubuntu> TUSME
[10:07] <Toma-> freddyubuntu: easy. convert it to vcd
[10:07] <freddyubuntu> i will pay yo
[10:07] <Hexagon> bvali, can I privmsg you?
[10:08] <freddyubuntu> Toma how to conver it?
[10:08] <freddyubuntu> toma how to convert it?
[10:08] <vlt> tsume: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade?
[10:08] <bvali> of course
[10:08] <tsume> vlt: yeah :)
[10:08] <dli> JDStone, printenv|grep TERM
[10:08] <tsume> dist-upgrade
[10:08] <Toma-> freddyubuntu: get tovid
[10:08] <Patrick_> I'm trying to install a Linux program from source on cygwin, it doesn't have the make install command, well, the make command it has, the install it doesn't, what package should I look for in the cygwin setup to install?
[10:08] <vlt> tsume: every night!
[10:08] <Patrick_> I wanna go to bed damnit
[10:08] <Patrick_> so
[10:08] <Patrick_> can someone answer me
[10:08] <Patrick_> so I can get some sleep
[10:08] <Patrick_> lol
[10:08] <Toma-> !info tovid
[10:08] <tsume> freddyubuntu: you might want to use k3b :)
[10:08] <ubotu> Package tovid does not exist in dapper
[10:08] <Toma-> doh
[10:08] <JDStone> dli: TERM=ansi
[10:08] <hawk> (_x_)
[10:08] <freddyubuntu> ok
[10:08] <londondave> dli: I have the eagle-usb source in my home directory, unpack it, cd into it and then sudo configure-thats when it stops with kernel-sources not found error
[10:09] <Toma-> freddyubuntu: http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Installing_tovid
[10:09] <Patrick_> *yawns*
[10:09] <freddyubuntu> aha
[10:09] <Patrick_> someone answer my question
[10:09] <Patrick_> so I can SLEEP
[10:09] <dli> JDStone, exit from ssh shell, export TERM=xterm , try again
[10:09] <Patrick_> lol
[10:09] <JDStone> ok, thanks dli
[10:09] <Patrick_> S-L-E-E-P- hard concept over here?
[10:09] <Patrick_> lol
[10:09] <bvali> :D
[10:09] <londondave> tovid id great, don't worry about the gui, just use the command line -its a doddle
[10:09] <Toma-> freddyubuntu: better yet, get this, and run "sudo dpkg -i tovid*"
[10:09] <tsume> tovid looks better though
[10:09] <Patrick_> if anyone here knows absolutly anything about cygwin
[10:09] <concept10> Patrick_, did you configure?
[10:09] <Patrick_> concept, it doesn't have ./configrue...
[10:09] <Patrick_> I don't get it.
[10:10] <Patrick_> what packages should I install?
[10:10] <Patrick_> lol
[10:10] <dli> Patrick_, cygwin is not ubuntu :(
[10:10] <bvali> ./configure is not really necessary :d
[10:10] <Patrick_> dli, I know this
[10:10] <concept10> Patrick_, dont keep asking and asking and lol'ing and asking and lol'ing
[10:10] <bvali> just a makefile
[10:10] <Patrick_> bvali, it /can/ be
[10:10] <trand> can i install ubuntu on macbook?
[10:10] <Patrick_> concept10, don't say anything if you don't intend on answering me.
[10:10] <Patrick_> trand, yes you can.
[10:10] <trand> thanks.
[10:10] <Healot> the same way as you do in x86... trand
[10:10] <bvali> for my info, Macs run on PPC?
[10:10] <JDStone> dli: yep, that looks better, thanks
[10:11] <Patrick_> so....
[10:11] <concept10> Patrick_, I tried to help you!
[10:11] <Madpilot> Patrick_, being rude is unlikely to ge you help faster...
[10:11] <trand> hmm... how about EFI & boot manager ... etc?
[10:11] <jf_> hi all
[10:11] <w0j> bvali: no ipv6 here :o
[10:11] <bvali> :P
[10:11] <Patrick_> madpilot, I wasen't exactly being rude, unless people watn to go off misinterpreating me
[10:11] <w0j> bvali: thanks :)
[10:11] <Patrick_> misinterperating*
[10:11] <vlt> tsume: What is dist-upgrade?
[10:11] <bvali> np
[10:11] <trand> i heard something is needed.
[10:11] <bvali> google did the trick again :D
[10:11] <Patrick_> I merely need some package names
[10:11] <Patrick_> or, what to look for better yet.
[10:11] <bvali> vlt: dist-upgrade will just update your whole system
[10:11] <pinky> I'm using a laptop with an Intel 855GM integrated graphics card and my xorg.conf says the driver is "i810", but projectM runs really slowly fullscreen... BUT all the other libvisual plugins I have run just fine!
[10:11] <pinky> Why is projectM being really really slow, when other libvisual plugins that use 3D rendering are fine?
[10:11] <trand> ah... googling.... :)
[10:11] <trand> got it.
[10:12] <tsume> vlt: apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:12] <dli> Patrick_, what's the error message
[10:12] <pinky> Is it a problem with my video card being too slow?
[10:12] <londondave> Patrick_: you can install on a macbook, but if your macbook uses the ppc chip you need that version
[10:12] <hangfire> JackSparrow- After I restart x windows with the command you sent me, Im left in Bash commandline mode, what do I do from there?
[10:12] <pinky> (which doesn't make sense because I used Milkdrop under Windows which ran FINE fullscreen)
[10:12] <VoX> Patrick_: apt-cache search cygwin
[10:12] <Hexagon> Why I can't install applications using "sudo apt-get install app"
[10:12] <Hexagon> ?
[10:12] <Hexagon> :(
[10:12] <scheuri> Patrick: to find packages names you either use "aptitude search [parts of name] "
[10:12] <vlt> bvali: Isn't it up to date with apt-get update/upgrade?
[10:12] <bvali> what does it say?
[10:12] <Patrick_> VoX, what???
[10:12] <concept10> ubuntu needs another channel
[10:12] <VoX> Patrick_: apt-cache search cygwin
[10:12] <bvali> Hexagon: what does it say?
[10:12] <Hexagon> I wrote you
[10:12] <Patrick_> VoX where would I use that command?
[10:12] <Hexagon> in private
[10:12] <bertugolu> hey someone...i need help
[10:12] <Hexagon> bvali
[10:12] <Patrick_> VoX, I'm not using Ubuntu...
[10:13] <Toma-> concept10: why?
[10:13] <bertugolu> i nstalled ubuntu
[10:13] <dli> Hexagon, what's the error message? " doesn't work" isn't a proper way in asking for support
[10:13] <bvali> i have no pm from you Hexagon
[10:13] <VoX> Patrick_: then wtf are you doing in #ubuntu?
[10:13] <Madpilot> concept10, for what? There are already lots of Ubuntu channels
[10:13] <Patrick_> dli, I'm getting errors like, when I try to run make install, it says no rule target for install.
[10:13] <Hexagon> ok I'll write you here
[10:13] <Patrick_> VoX, its Linux...
[10:13] <hangfire> Hexagon, do you use the 3D program Hexagon?
[10:13] <Hexagon> hexagon@HXG:~$ sudo apt-get install wine
[10:13] <Hexagon> Reading package lists... Done
[10:13] <Hexagon> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:13] <Hexagon> You might want to run apt-get -f install to correct these:
[10:13] <Hexagon> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:13] <bertugolu> and them.... it is givimg me an error stating gnub error
[10:13] <Hexagon>   skype: Depends: libqt3-mt but it is not installable or
[10:13] <VoX> oh good lord
[10:13] <Hexagon>                   libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2) but it is not installable
[10:13] <Hexagon>          Depends: libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1) but it is not going to be installed
[10:13] <Hexagon>   wine: Depends: libartsc0 (>= 1.5.2-0) but 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[10:13] <trand> londondave, i bought intel core macbook.
[10:13] <Hexagon>         Depends: libasound2 (> 1.0.10) but 1.0.9-2 is to be installed
[10:13] <Patrick_> VoX, alot of people in here have general knowledge, its not really hard to answer a simple question.
[10:13] <dli> Patrick_, when you do " make " ?
[10:13] <concept10> Toma-, another channel for beginners and more experienced users.  The signal to noise ratio in here is off the rocker
[10:13] <cris> hay alguien ??
[10:13] <Toma-> Patrick_: something like that mean there is no "make install"... READ the README file and see what it has to say
[10:13] <scheuri> Patrick: well, linux is the KERNEL only...ubuntu is a distribution...you might be better off in #cygwin
[10:13] <londondave> hexagon: it told you what to do
[10:14] <hangfire> cris, estoy aqui
[10:14] <Patrick_> dli, I cd'ed to the folder that contained the makefile and did make
[10:14] <bvali> Hexagon you must enable other repos
[10:14] <Seveas> !es
[10:14] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:14] <cris> de donde eres??
[10:14] <VoX> Patrick_: you're saying people arent being helpful. HOW ABOUT YOU ADVISE US THAT THIS ISNT ON AN UBUNTU SYSTEM?
[10:14] <Toma-> concept10: just need to pick random questions and answer them, not hard
[10:14] <hangfire> mx
[10:14] <Seveas> !caps
[10:14] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:14] <VoX> yes i know
[10:14] <Patrick_> VoX, lol
[10:14] <bvali> :D
[10:14] <Patrick_> VoX, I never said that
[10:14] <Patrick_> VoX, don't twist my words, please.
[10:15] <Toma-> Patrick_: whats the issue?
[10:15] <VoX> someone stab him
[10:15] <concept10> Toma-, that doesnt change the noise ratio
[10:15] <Patrick_> Toma-, no, I believe it is do-able, I remember getting such an error while I was running ubuntu, I merely installed a package, but I don't remember which one.
[10:15] <Toma-> Patrick_: what error?
[10:15] <bertugolu> hey can someone help me????
[10:15] <idefix> there's no newsgrouputility in evolution mail, is there?
[10:15] <Patrick_> Toma- when I try to install a package from source, after I run the make command I get the following error for make install
[10:15] <Toma-> bertugolu: ill give it a shot
[10:15] <londondave> as anyone built the ueagle-atm driver for linux, it's supposed to work fine with sagem modem on linux
[10:15] <scheuri> bertugolu: just ask...maybe someone is able to help and will s
[10:16] <bertugolu> ok
[10:16] <bertugolu> i nstalled ubuntu
[10:16] <Seveas> Patrick_, errors on the pastebin please
[10:16] <bertugolu> and it is giving me an error when i boot
[10:16] <concept10> Patrick_, your problem inst not related to ubuntu.  You should conduct a search or go to the respective channel
[10:16] <cris> nadie me contesta
[10:16] <bertugolu> a GNUB error
[10:16] <Patrick_> Seveas, that is not necessary for one line errors, I'm not a noob.
[10:16] <scheuri> !es
[10:16] <crimsun> londondave: it should work in Breezy, but it won't in Dapper due to obsoleting hotplug.
[10:16] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:16] <Seveas> Patrick_, ok, then give the error 
[10:16] <Patrick_> concept10, this is the most active hcannel I know of, it IS linux, etc.
[10:16] <Toma-> bertugolu: a grub error?
[10:16] <bertugolu> jes
[10:16] <cris> estoy aki!!
[10:16] <bertugolu> yes
[10:16] <Patrick_> Seveas, I'm getting to that lol
[10:17] <dli> Patrick_, cygwin is not linux, linux is the kernel
[10:17] <londondave> crimsun: is there anyway to get that modem to work in dapper?
[10:17] <hangfire> cris, nesacito ir a #ubuntu-es
[10:17] <Toma-> Patrick_: all my responses will be geared towards ubuntu tho. wether that helps or not, we'll see
[10:17] <Patrick_> Toma- it says 'make: Nothing can be done for 'install'
[10:17] <concept10> Patrick_, gentoo is more active
[10:17] <crimsun> londondave: yes, but it takes some tweaking and understanding of the udev transition.
[10:17] <Seveas> Patrick_, then simply read the readme - not much we can do to help
[10:17] <Seveas> .
[10:17] <Patrick_> concept10, they'll bitch about it not being gentoo as well.
[10:17] <Toma-> Patrick_: that means the make file has no "install" section, so wont "install"
[10:17] <bertugolu> hey what can  i do?
[10:17] <Toma-> !grub
[10:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:17] <Patrick_> toma- I assumed it was a package error.
[10:18] <Seveas> Patrick_, wrong assumption
[10:18] <londondave> crimsun: any idea where I can get info on how to do it?
[10:18] <Patrick_> toma- the readme to the application tells me to run make install.
[10:18] <Patrick_> seveas, obviously.
[10:18] <Toma-> Patrick_: no. its a "compiling from source and not reading the README file" error
[10:18] <Toma-> PEBKAC, to put it bluntly :)
[10:18] <crimsun> londondave: I don't know of any documentation, and I haven't tested (since I lack the hardware).
[10:18] <Patrick_> Toma- what?
[10:18] <concept10> Patrick_, do you have the correct build environment?
[10:18] <bvali> Patrick, it's strange that you can run `make` and not make install
[10:18] <Patrick_> Toma-, I read the readme to the program....
[10:18] <Toma-> err PEBCAK
[10:18] <Patrick_> concept10, thats why I'm here, I really am not sure.
[10:18] <Toma-> Patrick_: and it said "run 'make install'?
[10:18] <majtekst> does someone can help me about ubuntu installation
[10:19] <Patrick_> concept10, I installed a bunch of gcc and make etc.
[10:19] <concept10> Patrick_, what distro are yoou on
[10:19] <Patrick_> Toma-, it said run make, then make install
[10:19] <majtekst> yesterday, i downloaded ubuntu 6.06 (amd64)
[10:19] <Toma-> bertugolu: see that thing about grub a few lines up? and a read of that. what kind of grub error is it by the way?
[10:19] <Patrick_> conept10, I'm running Cygwin under windows.
[10:19] <londondave> crimsun: sagem even provide a patched driver on their website, but that won't build either-same 'cannot find kernel-sources error'
[10:19] <Toma-> Patrick_: cygwin?
[10:19] <Patrick_> concept10, its really the came concept as Linux. so, this is all really linux based
[10:19] <Patrick_> Toma- yes.
[10:19] <Seveas> Patrick_ jeez, go to #cygwin then, this is an Ubuntu channel
[10:19] <concept10> heh
[10:20] <Toma-> ubuntu help isnt cygwin help
[10:20] <Patrick_> Seveas, don't recommend me that..
[10:20] <majtekst> and when I booted from DVD, after few secound's my monitor have had freez
[10:20] <dli> londondave, edit the Makefile , locate the kernel source variable, correct it
[10:20] <Patrick_> Seveas, theres 17 people in there, and none of them respond.
[10:20] <Toma-> cygwin is 'like' linux
[10:20] <crimsun> londondave: are you using linux-headers-$(uname -r) or linux-source-2.6.15?
[10:20] <Toma-> not real linux
[10:20] <Seveas> Patrick_, that's no reason to be offtopic in here
[10:20] <Patrick_> Toma- this is merely package knowledge
[10:20] <majtekst> on the monitor i can see only two lines of text
[10:20] <Seveas> Patrick_, it is not, now stop it.
[10:20] <Patrick_> Seveas THIS IS on topic, its LINUX
[10:20] <scheuri> Patrick: by all due respect...people here are expecting you to run ubuntu of some sort, because the channel is supposed to give ubuntu support...so dont expect more than this please
[10:20] <majtekst> boot...
[10:20] <majtekst> load kernel
[10:20] <Toma-> it was only a matter of time till he got kicked :(
[10:20] <Patrick_> ....
[10:21] <Seveas> Patrick_, now behave.
[10:21] <scheuri> arrr...too late
[10:21] <Patrick_> dude, that was not cool
[10:21] <Patrick_> anyways
[10:21] <Patrick_> I merely need a package to look for
[10:21] <dli> Seveas, thanks, this patrick is just rude and ignorant :( bad combination
[10:21] <Patrick_> simple as that.
[10:21] <Toma-> +1 beer to Seveas
[10:21] <concept10> Hes umm.. a little demanding
[10:22] <rixxon> he could've asked in some offtopic channel
[10:22] <londondave> crimsun and dli: I have all the necessary packages installed for this to build, the configure script tries to find something in /lib/modules/*/ but if that fails it looks in /usr/src/linux-I cannot understand why it cannot see the kernel source
[10:22] <Seveas> back to normality people
[10:22] <rixxon> like #ubuntu-offtopic or #freenode-social
[10:22] <dli> rixxon, he doesn't read any doc :( that's the problem
[10:22] <bioticpro> How can a dual analog joystick game controller be configured in Linux?
[10:22] <Toma-> londondave: run './configure --help' and see if you can specify the kernel source path
[10:22] <concept10> or google cygwin
[10:22] <rixxon> dli: heh, didn't see his question
[10:22] <bertugolu> hey i still got a problem
[10:23] <crimsun> londondave: I'm not sure you answered my question explicitly
[10:23] <Bassetts> is there any easy way to make a screencast??
[10:23] <bertugolu> HELLO?
[10:23] <dli> Bassetts, screenshot?
[10:23] <Toma-> bertugolu: see that thing about grub a few lines up? and a read of that. what kind of grub error is it by the way?
[10:23] <Toma-> !grub
[10:23] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:23] <salah> how do I save a image from VLC? (taken screenshot, but nothing is saving)
[10:23] <Toma-> bertugolu: ^^^
[10:23] <bertugolu> heh
[10:23] <bertugolu> it gives a lot of different numbers
[10:24] <Bassetts> dli: no screencast, record your screen
[10:24] <bertugolu> the last time it gave me error 17
[10:24] <Toma-> bertugolu: does it say "kernel panic"?
[10:24] <bertugolu> no
[10:24] <londondave> crimsun: I have the kernel-headers that is the right package for the pre-built kernel, the configure script as an option --kernel-source-dir, even when I use that I get the same error
[10:24] <Toma-> good
[10:24] <dli> Bassetts, in a terminal (or Alt-F2), run: gnome-screenshot
[10:24] <bertugolu> shalll i reinsall ubuntu?
[10:24] <concept10> Bassetts, http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/07/recording-videos-of-your-desktop-in.html
[10:24] <rixxon> Bassetts: mhm, saw some python thingy for recording vnc sessions
[10:24] <PORRETE> OLA ALGUN ESPAOL
[10:25] <scheuri> !es
[10:25] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:25] <PORRETE> OLAAAAAAAA
[10:25] <Bassetts> concept10: can i reduce the screen res with that, because a 1280x1024 flash movie isnt very helpful to people on 1024x768
[10:25] <londondave> crimsun&dli: what's driving me mad is there are help files to describe getting this modem to work and others say it's a sucess
[10:25] <PORRETE> ESPAOL
[10:26] <Toma-> how do you say shutup in spanish?
[10:26] <PORRETE> SIIIIIIIIIIIII
[10:26] <scheuri> ;)
[10:26] <rixxon> Bassetts: read this, http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=CamStudioOSS/camstudio
[10:26] <Lynoure> !es
[10:26] <bvali> lol
[10:26] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:26] <dli> londondave, kernel source location should be easy to provide, do you have " ./configure --help " ?
[10:26] <concept10> Bassetts, I only provide linky, you have to determine that.  Also search Newsforge, or google I have seen plently articles
[10:26] <salah> PORRETE, no, nosotras hablar ingels
[10:26] <dli> londondave, read the INSTALL or README file
[10:26] <crimsun> Toma-: you say, /mode #ubuntu +q *!*@83.230.234.143
[10:27] <Toma-> :)
[10:27] <Bassetts> concept10: thanks, i have been looking, seems hit and miss on how to word your search
[10:27] <PORRETE> SUIS POLA MOTA CULINBA
[10:27] <salah> PORRETE, reunir #ubuntu-es
[10:27] <scheuri> is he swearing now?
[10:27] <scheuri> ;)
[10:28] <PORRETE> JEJJJEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[10:28] <Toma-> el muchos sinorita
[10:28] <concept10> Bassetts, google ubuntu screencast
[10:28] <londondave> dli: I have, I hate to bore you guys, but I built kde from scratch about 4 years ago for a laugh-in the good old days of linux. I have built much more complex packages than this driver-I just don't get it
[10:28] <Bassetts> concept10: thanks
[10:28] <salah> scheuri, he is said something about us :p
[10:28] <Healot> !laptotp
[10:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about laptotp
[10:28] <Healot> !laptop
[10:28] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[10:29] <scheuri> salah: ah, okay...hope it was nice and such...;)
[10:29] <majtekst> does someone can help  me with ubuntu installation
[10:29] <salah> hehe
[10:29] <dli> londondave, what's the name of the driver? I can have a look whether it builds here
[10:29] <Toma-> londondave: what exactly is your problem anyway?
[10:29] <dli> !ask > majtekst
[10:29] <ktogias> Hi, I have a 4.1 Sound Blaster Live! 1024 sound card. I am trying to connect it with an external amplifier. The card has a Digital Out jack that according to the manual "Connects to external digital device, such
[10:29] <ktogias> as a DAT or MD recorder via a Digital
[10:29] <ktogias> Output Module (available separately) or
[10:29] <ktogias> FourPointSurround Digital speakers".
[10:29] <ktogias>  In specs section the manual describes the digital output jack as: "DIGITAL OUT (Front and Rear SPDIF digital outputs) via 4-pole 3.5mm minijack on rear
[10:29] <ktogias> bracket
[10:29] <ktogias> ". Does anyone can say 1) If the digital output is optical and 2) if I have any chances to make it work under breezy?
[10:29] <scheuri> londondave: have you installed linux-headers "sudo aptitude install linux-headers[yourkerlnelversion] "?
[10:29] <ktogias> ... soory for the flood...
[10:29] <majtekst> yesterday i downloaded ubuntu 6.06 for amd64
[10:30] <londondave> eagle-usb, they have a web site for the driver or you can go to sagem and they have a patched driver of the same source code
[10:30] <Toma-> awesome flood. sorry cant help.
[10:30] <concept10> Bassetts, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/?s=screencast&searchbutton=go%21
[10:30] <majtekst> i booted from DVD
[10:30] <Bassetts> concept10: tried that, it isnt a easy way
[10:30] <majtekst> but after few secounds, my computer was block
[10:30] <concept10> Bassetts, I also have a app called istanbul that is easy to use - apt-cache search instanbul
[10:30] <majtekst> on the screen i should only see loading kernel
[10:30] <ktogias> I didn't realize I write so much text :( ...
[10:30] <majtekst> and nothing was hapen
[10:31] <Toma-> londondave: what exactly is your problem anyway?
[10:31] <scheuri> majtekst: are you sure it was blocked? the livecd takes quite a while to finish loading
[10:31] <majtekst> i try to boot live ubuntu options
[10:31] <dli> londondave, GPL Driver for Eagle Chipset powered ADSL modem
[10:31] <Bassetts> concept10: using that right now, smile your on screen cam, but my mouse has a yellow box around it and theres a trail of mice all over the screen
[10:31] <majtekst> and evertyhing is OK, but i would like to install on harddisk
[10:31] <majtekst> how mouch time???
[10:32] <Seveas> dli, i though eagleusb drivers were in Ubuntu already
[10:32] <majtekst> i waited about 10 minutes
[10:32] <concept10> Bassetts, I wish there was something simple.  I wanted to make one the other day without cli hassle (im in cli all day, gimme a break sometimes!) but no dice
[10:32] <londondave> Toma-: I can hear people groan already-as far as I know I have all that I need to build the eagle-usb driver from source-the configure script runs fine until the end-'cannot find kernel source' error
[10:32] <scheuri> majtekst: uhm well...10 minutes should have been enough though...
[10:32] <Bassetts> concept10: ok, if i find anything ill keep you in mind
[10:32] <dli> londondave, modprobe eagleusb
[10:33] <majtekst> i didn't put any specific boot options
[10:33] <Toma-> londondave: and you installed linux-headers-`uname -r` ?
[10:33] <ubuntu_> hola
[10:33] <majtekst> just press Enter on the first dialog
[10:33] <hybrid> hola ubuntu_  como estas?
[10:33] <londondave> dli: the deb packages will let the driver load but they are broken and cannot work the modem
[10:33] <ubuntu_> bien en clase
[10:33] <majtekst> i am not quite sure, what is install on hard disk (icon) on the desktop, when i boot love Ubuntu
[10:34] <hybrid> tiene un preguna?
[10:34] <scheuri> londondave: so you have already installed the packages available with ubuntu 6.06 via apt-get or aptitude (or synaptic)?
[10:34] <majtekst> is it same like I install normaly
[10:34] <dli> londondave, can you get the source of the deb? build from there
[10:34] <Badwolf2> http://www.ffgame.gangwars.de/surprise.php?lucky=25414
[10:35] <majtekst> I have Debian Sarge and Windows XP on the same Harddisk
[10:35] <londondave> scheuri: yes but the ubuntu team know they don't work and will be fixed in the future-the advice is to rebuild from source and that should work fine
[10:35] <ubuntu_> en castellano please
[10:35] <scheuri> londondave: ah, sorry...didnt know that...my bad
[10:35] <majtekst> but instead Debian, i would like to install Ubuntu
[10:35] <dli> londondave, I couldn't build the eagle-usb driver, I'm running 2.6.17-mm6, not supported by the module source
[10:35] <scheuri> majtekst: when installing debian, have you made different partitions for / and /home=
[10:36] <ubuntu_> estamos probandolo en live pero lo instalare
[10:36] <Seveas> !es
[10:36] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:36] <londondave> dli: what is the module source is that the same as the source code for the driver?
[10:36] <Toma-> londondave: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=144468&highlight=sagem+fast+800
[10:36] <Toma-> seen that?
[10:36] <dli> londondave, yes, I mean the driver source
[10:37] <londondave> Toma-thanks I'll take a look
[10:37] <dli> hybrid, #debian?
[10:37] <hybrid> heh
[10:37] <ubuntu_> thanks yoy
[10:37] <ubuntu_> thanks you
[10:37] <londondave> dli: if you have kernel 2.6 this driver is already installed but it is broke
[10:37] <wy> hi, has anyone experience with using shared library with dlopen() and dlsym()...
[10:37] <dli> londondave, no, I have -mm kernel
[10:39] <londondave> Toma-thanks I have a hard copy of that guide, but the ueagle-atm driver attemtps to change directory to /lib/modules/*/build my lib/modules did not have a build directory
[10:40] <concept10> gosh the state of graphics (drivers) is horrible! I fixed a problem i have been messing around with for hours by removing one package
[10:40] <Toma-> londondave: have you install all the apt-get stuff at the top?
[10:41] <londondave> Toma-yes that is what is so puzzling, I thought this would take an hour to do max, 4 days later I am stuck using windows xp for the internet.
[10:42] <londondave> dli: out of interest what is the difference-what is mm kerbel
[10:42] <londondave> kernel even
[10:43] <iLLf8d> lo all, hey seems no matter which platform I try ubuntu on it'll never install
[10:43] <iLLf8d> altho when I try to install debian it usually goes right in go figure
[10:44] <iLLf8d> anyone know the status of ubuntu ppc on ppc mac minis?
[10:44] <hybrid> iLLf8d: make sure the CD isnt corrupt
[10:44] <hybrid> iLLf8d: works fine here
[10:44] <iLLf8d> I checksumed it
[10:44] <londondave> the basic problem people is that my router was working fine with tiscali broadband for months, then it would not connect-is there a sure fire way of checking the network card and router are not the problem?
[10:44] <dli> iLLf8d, use debian then, I point is now, use debian, if you know the name debian, otherwise, try ubuntu :)
[10:44] <iLLf8d> seems it looks like its going to work then hangs at a cursor
[10:44] <hybrid> did you burn slow?
[10:45] <dli> iLLf8d, I heard too many problems from dapper
[10:45] <iLLf8d> uhm no but my burner doesn't coaster and works fine
[10:45] <Seveas> dli, debian spam or fud elsewhere pleasse
[10:45] <iLLf8d> its not sketchy like other burners
[10:45] <majtekst> scheuri: i have few partitions [/, /boot/ /swap, /fat32, /dev0 - windowsXP
[10:45] <iLLf8d> I don't get it I mean ubuntu uses the deb installer doesn't it?
[10:46] <londondave> I don't know why those call centre support staff in india are so bad, if they didn't lie so blatently then we wouldn't blow our top with thm
[10:46] <iLLf8d> I'd like to try out ubuntu on my mini otherwise I wouldn't have come here, I'm not trolling
[10:47] <dli> Seveas, you shut up, I mean I don't recommend ubuntu for all
[10:47] <londondave> iLLf8d: ubuntu is a very good linux distibution, I can't say linux has the same visual quality as windows, but it's much safer and more fun to use
[10:47] <JDStone> is xserver-xorg the X server?  is that the correct package?
[10:48] <JDStone> I installed it and I still dont' get the 'startx' command
[10:48] <iLLf8d> I've used linux for years since the mid 90s
[10:48] <iLLf8d> wonder if its an xorg issue with my monitor
[10:48] <iLLf8d> altho the startup fancy ubuntu screen looked like it was working
[10:48] <JDStone> is xserver-xorg the X server?  is that the correct package?
[10:48] <jenton> what package contains a tool I can use to join mpeg4 avi files together?
[10:48] <dli> iLLf8d, very old or very new hardware?
[10:48] <iLLf8d> wierder still was that the livecd of the last version worked on it
[10:49] <iLLf8d> its fairly new its the 1.25ghz g4 mini 1G memory
[10:49] <dli> JDStone, yes
[10:49] <JDStone> dli: then why don't I have the startx command?
[10:49] <wddx> who is chinese?
[10:49] <dli> iLLf8d, sounds okay to me, not very old, or new
[10:49] <JDStone>  /whois chinese
[10:49] <iLLf8d> jenton, you can't you'll have to convert one way or the other probably
[10:49] <JDStone> lol
[10:49] <dli> wddx, me
[10:49] <londondave> iLLf8d: same here but hardware is gradually coming with linux drivers, where there used to be problems with getting driver info at all. So linux is always going to be slightly behind windows on hardware
[10:50] <JDStone> sashenka: who is chii
[10:50] <JDStone> sashenka: what is JDStone
[10:50] <iLLf8d> londondave, well I thought the g4 minis were in the supported list
[10:50] <concept10> is there something like katapult for gnome or does it work in gnome?
[10:50] <JDStone> sashenka: who is JDStone
[10:50] <wddx> ok let us speak chinese,di i have a question.
[10:50] <JDStone> dli: should I have the 'startx' command?
[10:51] <dli> wddx, no, this is an english only channel, you can pm me
[10:51] <londondave> iLLf8d: what's the proble you have at the moment
[10:51] <iLLf8d> I'll try swaping out my monitor tomorrow and or hooking it up to my kvm (kvm may fake nicer settings I dunno)
[10:51] <wddx> o
[10:51] <iLLf8d> seems its hanging just after the fancy bootscreen
[10:51] <iLLf8d> I can't get into the installer to install it
[10:51] <Madpilot> !tw
[10:51] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[10:51] <iLLf8d> I get left with a brownish screen and a tick mark lookign prompt that doesn't blink
[10:51] <londondave> iLLf8d: when I initially installed, I had the same problem, so I just reinstalled and it was fine
[10:52] <iLLf8d> no consoles work no noise from cd or mini
[10:52] <cubikdice> dammit! the video card on one of my boxes just went :
[10:52] <dli> JDStone, startx is within the xinit package, use apt-file or packages.ubuntu.com to search packages for content files
[10:52] <cubikdice> :'(
[10:52] <JDStone> oh, I thought it would install startx, thanks
[10:52] <iLLf8d> I tried it twice, I'll rip out all my external drive cables swap monitor and give it another run tomorrow
[10:53] <dli> wddx, don't go to #ubuntu-cn , seems like the big brother has an eye there
[10:53] <londondave> iLLf8d: no how you feel mate, but I am not sure what the status is for linux on mac on i386 chips there is not a problem
[10:54] <iLLf8d> yeah the wierdnesses are that the live cds seem to work on the boxes I've tried but the installers have always failed
[10:54] <iLLf8d> which is pretty wierd
[10:54] <dli> JDStone, however, you should install a meta package like,  ubuntu-desktop , instead of xserver-xorg (which is pulled in by ubuntu-desktop)
[10:54] <wy> I've got a programming problem. a problem of visiting global variables from a shared library
[10:54] <iLLf8d> must just have bad luck =P
[10:54] <JDStone> dli: why is that?
[10:54] <JDStone> why should I do that
[10:55] <londondave> iLLf8d: might be time to email ubuntu and see if there is a known problem, they have a known problems list for dapper
[10:55] <dli> JDStone, because xserver-xorg doesn't give you all required X components
[10:55] <JDStone> dli: I'm installing mythtv and I don't want something like gnome
[10:55] <JDStone> ahh, ok
[10:55] <zuhi_> hejho!
[10:55] <zuhi_> and bye :)
[10:56] <iLLf8d> hrm gotta do a search for the ubuntu bts
[10:56] <dli> JDStone, I got a n00b way, install xubuntu-desktop
[10:57] <wddx> "seem slike the big brother has an eye there" what meaning?
[10:57] <JDStone> I just looked at that on packages.ubuntu.com
[10:57] <JDStone> and it installs so much other crap I don't need
[10:58] <dli> JDStone, okay, x-window-system-core
[10:58] <dli> wddx, just don't go to #ubuntu-cn , for your own interests
[10:58] <JDStone> ahh, there we go, thank you dli
[10:59] <JDStone> I'm still a n00b when it comes to ubuntu
[10:59] <iLLf8d> londondave, hrm now that I'm doing a few searches I'm finding others who had similar problems
[10:59] <dli> JDStone, you should install debian though, for your specific requirement
[11:00] <JDStone> dli: why install debian?
[11:00] <dli> JDStone, because the default ubuntu installation is already gnome, while in debian, it's not
[11:00] <londondave> iLLf8d: as you know the linux guys have to do almost spy type work to get the info they need to write working drivers -apple may not play ball which is a mystery to me
[11:01] <JDStone> hmm, I have it all set up with BIND and everything else....
[11:01] <dli> londondave, I heard apple is closing up instead of openning up, when it comes to it's OS
[11:01] <iLLf8d> dunno sounds like its a bad kernel option or 2
[11:02] <londondave> dli: I have no idea what apple should care about once you buy their computer, why should it bother them if you want to dual boot and yet they are making it easy on the intel ones to boot windows?
[11:03] <iLLf8d> londondave, apple just wants there piece
[11:03] <iLLf8d> they like to sell a decent product but they're more money grubbing then microsoft is
[11:04] <dli> londondave, they do care, because they can continue their " apple is faster/better" myth, if users couldn't run the same software to compare
[11:04] <CarinArr> can anyone suggest a good way to burn wma's bought from online shop onto cd?
[11:04] <charle97> apple would then be competing against dell instead of the evil known as microsoft
[11:04] <CarinArr> k3b doesn't seem to want to
[11:04] <EdLin> I don't know about "decent product", I've heard recent Apple x86 hardware is actually of lower quality than the average PC laptop.
[11:04] <iLLf8d> gotta live the black ibook costing 200$ more then the white ibook (tho it has a 20G bigger drive) like the drive difference costs apple much if anything you're paying for the color premium =P
[11:04] <londondave> iLLf8d: i always had steve jobs down as a reasonable guy-mind you after their announcements on the ipod if it gets a fault I'm not so sure
[11:05] <Ng> this all looks kinda off-topic folks :)
[11:06] <EdLin> llama32: black PC keyboards usually cost more than white/grey ones too. :-)
[11:06] <dli> Ng, who cares, nobody is asking any on-topic
[11:06] <charle97> yea, the channel seems real busy
[11:06] <iLLf8d> Ng it is but half the world is asleep =P
[11:06] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[11:06] <charle97> hello
[11:06] <llama32> EdLin: i think that msg was for someone else :)
[11:07] <JDStone> good point dli, debian it is then.  I'm downloading the netinst ISO.  night
[11:07] <dli> iLLf8d, by population? not likely, both china & india is up
[11:07] <iLLf8d> heh
[11:07] <charle97> china and india don't use linux
[11:07] <linuxboyfriend> i was installing ubuntu (dapper) and there was an error during partitioning: pad_parition_new is not detected
[11:07] <iLLf8d> sure they do
[11:07] <iLLf8d> heh
[11:07] <linuxboyfriend> ped*
[11:07] <dli> iLLf8d, should be "are", anyway, broken english as usual
[11:07] <Ng> charle97: yes they do, quite a lot more t han you might imagine, also europe is awake now
[11:07] <charle97> why should they when they can pirate windows
[11:08] <Ng> dli: in general if the noise level rises too high people ask questions less
[11:08] <dli> charle97, many open source projects from india, not sure about china
[11:08] <iLLf8d> dli, we're not speaking english we're speaking irc
[11:08] <iLLf8d> s/irc/ircspeak
[11:08] <iLLf8d> ok gnight all will give it a run again tomorrow
[11:08] <iLLf8d> cya
[11:09] <londondave> if anyone has any clues at all with this eagle-usb modem driver I'll be back on later, I cannot belive I can't get this to work
[11:10] <dli> londondave, if you really want to know, I can boot a stable version kernel, and try to test building
[11:10] <Crowe> Hey, can anyone help me? I have a problem with my video settings.
[11:11] <dli> Crowe, you mean video-driver? sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:11] <d-s-d> hi
[11:12] <Crowe> The actual problem is that my video runs slowly under 1680x1050 but normally under a smaller resolution.
[11:12] <d-s-d> Is there a possibility to give usb-hd-partitions fixed mount-points?
[11:12] <Ng> Crowe: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[11:12] <londondave> dli: I'd be grateful, if it builds on you box then it should on mine
[11:12] <dli> Crowe, video card problem, might be
[11:12] <Crowe> ATI Mobility Radeon x1600
[11:12] <mada> j0
[11:13] <Crowe> I just installed the newest driver from the ATI site
[11:13] <mada> Crowe: ATI drivers are useless
[11:13] <Ng> Crowe: ah, I was going to suggest using the binary drivers, but if you already are then I'm not sure what else to suggest, I'm no ATi expert
[11:13] <dli> londondave, okay, I think I have the stable version vanilla kernel 2.6.15.7
[11:13] <Crowe> :(
[11:13] <dli> londondave, give me minutes to reboot
[11:14] <londondave> ok dli
[11:14] <Bassetts> is it possible to add a menu item that says "open terminal here" to the menu that you get if you right click in a folder?
[11:14] <mada> Crowe: sadly, ATI doesn't seem to care about the linux community so most ATI drivers that get any performance out of ATI chips are open source solutions
[11:14] <Ng> Bassetts: install nautilus-open-terminal
[11:14] <Bassetts> thanks
[11:15] <pequatre> hi everyone. Can anyone help me with my iptable rules ? see here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17229 . Emule works fine with those while azureus won't let me open connections to other peers (dDB and scrape work fine though). What gives ? I use Azureus on port 46177 and Dapper...
[11:15] <londondave> Crowe: its back to the hardware driver problem, big companies don't like giving driver info to the linux community
[11:15] <dli> londondave, I will have to rebuild that kernel version :( I think I deleted the kernel source
[11:15] <Crowe> I'm starting to see that
[11:15] <Crowe> So I'm going to have to switch to a smaller res when I want to watch video?
[11:15] <mada> londondave: nVidia loves us :)
[11:15] <Seveas> !help
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[11:16] <Seveas> @help
[11:16] <Dr_L_Z2A> does anyone know how I play audio from mpg videos?
[11:16] <Ubugtu> (help [<plugin>]  [<command>] ) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[11:16] <londondave> dli: don't drive yourself mad, if you are cool with that it would be of help to me to see where I am going wrong
[11:16] <dli> londondave, 5 minutes more, I have distcc and ccache
[11:16] <mada> Crowe: until you get a nVidia card you will
[11:16] <Crowe> That will be quite a trick for my laptop =D
[11:16] <dli> londondave, no, I suggest you do the similar, read the doc, found out supported kernel versions
[11:16] <Seveas> @disable help
[11:16] <mada> Crowe: oh rgr ... what kind of laptop?
[11:16] <Crowe> Acer TravelMate 8204wlmi
[11:17] <mada> Crowe: alot of laptops have special setups for the gfx cards and there are ways to make it work nicely
[11:17] <mada> Crowe: ok, so what was your video problem?
[11:17] <londondave> dli: the info says that 2.6 kernels support the driver
[11:17] <londondave> dliL
[11:17] <Crowe> under 1680x1050, my video is very buggy and slow
[11:18] <Crowe> otherwise, the desktop looks good.
[11:18] <dli> londondave, get more detailed info, because I found 2.6.17-mm sources are not supported
[11:18] <Crowe> But it runs fine under smaller resolutions
[11:18] <mada> Crowe: strange, did you check the Xorg config file to make sure it is using the ATI driver you just installed?
[11:18] <dli> londondave, Linux head2 2.6.17-mm6 #2 Tue Jul 4 15:17:09 CDT 2006 i686 mobile AMD Athlon(tm) 4 1600+ GNU/Linux
[11:18] <Crowe> one sec
[11:19] <londondave> dli: I have spent hours looking for the slightest tip or trick, I'm sure it works with latest stable kernel which is 2.6.15-25
[11:20] <Crowe> mada, under what section would it be listed?
[11:20] <Crowe> i have fglrx
[11:20] <dli> londondave, anyway, I'm building, 2.6.15.7 now
[11:20] <mada> Crowe: hrmmm.... lemme check something
[11:20] <londondave> dli-that should be fine-thanks
[11:21] <dli> londondave, when it comes to kernel modules, I prefer vanilla sources, instead of ubuntu-source
[11:21] <cyphase> woohoo! Nexuiz is in edgy
[11:21] <ESPOiG> hey people, how do i set the permissions for a folder and everything in that to me, what is the command?
[11:22] <londondave> dli-all the info I have read says that the driver should work ok with either  of those kernels, should be interesting if it works-u'll be a hero in the uk :)
[11:22] <dli> ESPOiG, sudo chown -R
[11:22] <ESPOiG> dli, ta
[11:22] <dli> ESPOiG, example, sudo chown -R dli:users /home/dli
[11:23] <ESPOiG> k
[11:23] <ESPOiG> thanx
[11:23] <Anony> Please help me I have destroyed ubuntu.
[11:23] <Anony> I was trying to get my sound working on an omnibook 4150 sound card is nm256
[11:23] <Anony> Following this guide
[11:23] <Anony> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[11:23] <mada> Crowe: did you follow the install steps listed here --->http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.24.8.html
[11:24] <mada> Anony:
[11:24] <ESPOiG> dli, just what i wanted that you :D
[11:24] <mada> Anony: what seems to be destroyed?
[11:24] <Anony> When it came to the step "sudo module-assistant a-i   alsa-source"
[11:24] <Anony> My mouse stopped working
[11:24] <Crowe> mada: not even a little
[11:24] <londondave> dli: the amount of rolling tobacco I have smoked fumbling over this is making my chest hurt-lol, it would be good for my health to crack this
[11:24] <Anony> mada Along with my network card
[11:24] <Crowe> mada: I followed someone's guide
[11:24] <Anony> And the "battery left" display in icewm
[11:24] <Crowe> I'll try this and get back to you
[11:25] <mada> Crowe: give that a shot, it seems like i was wrong about ATI ... they must have cleaned up their act since i owned an ATI card ... apparently there is a gui tool from them that does everything you need, including editing the Xorg config file
[11:25] <dli> Anony, alsa should be in ubuntu kernel, already
[11:25] <mada> Anony: yeah .... alsa is standard
[11:25] <Anony> dli, that is not longer relevant to the problem and the steps I took above are not related to wether or not alsa is included in the kernel
[11:26] <Anony> The sound was not working, and I know alsa is included, however the module for my sound driver could not be loaded
[11:26] <Anony> Dmesg reported the module blacklisted, even though it was not present in the blacklist file
[11:26] <Anony> So I followed the guide
[11:26] <Anony> If you have a problem with the guide, please take it up with the author
[11:27] <mada> Anony: ok, well as far as the mouse not working, does the cursor not move when you move the mouse or that mouse not even show up on the screen?
[11:27] <Anony> Mouse shows up, but never moves. Clicking does not work
[11:27] <Anony> Tried a usb mouse as well
[11:28] <mada> Anony: well, the mouse driver was just recently upgraded, so that should more likely than not be fixable via a "sudo apt-get update && upgrade"
[11:28] <Anony> It was working until I ran that command.
[11:28] <crimsun> which command?
 When it came to the step "sudo module-assistant a-i   alsa-source"
[11:28] <Anony> Thats why everything stopped working
[11:28] <Anony> *when
[11:29] <crimsun> Anony: can you describe what m-a was doing when everything stopped working?
[11:29] <crimsun> and what does "everything stopped working" entail? complete system freeze?
[11:29] <Anony> crimsun, Idont know what m-a is
[11:29] <crimsun> module-assistant.
[11:30] <Anony> crimsun, I answered that question earlier if you will recall
[11:30] <londondave> dli-be back in 15 mins
[11:30] <Anony> Module assistant reported that things were already built and it wasnt rebuilding them
[11:30] <dli> londondave, should be done by thne
[11:30] <Crowe> mada: in retrospect, the steps i followed were very similar. I'll reboot now and report the results
[11:31] <crimsun> Anony: I need to know if your system froze or not.
[11:31] <Anony> crimsun, nope
[11:31] <dli> Anony, I would like you to check modules: psmouse, usbhid
[11:31] <Anony> dli, in what manner would you like me to check them?
[11:31] <Anony> lsmod? modinfo?
[11:32] <dli> Anony, lsmod, rmmod, modprobe
[11:32] <Anony> k
[11:32] <dli> Anony, and /etc/init.d/gdm restart after that
[11:32] <Anony> psmouse didnt show up under the first two commands and the last one reported that the module could not be found
[11:32] <dibblego> !nvidia
[11:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:33] <crimsun> Anony: paste the output from ``lsmod |grep ^snd'' in #flood
[11:33] <dli> Anony, it's built-in then
[11:33] <Anony> crimsun I cannot copy or paste, I am using windows right now
[11:33] <Anony> As I said, my network adapter is not working, nor is the mouse
[11:33] <Anony> So I cannot be online, nor select text for copying and pasting
[11:34] <dli> Anony, sounds like a kernel bug to me :)
[11:34] <Anony> dli, suddenly like this after days?
[11:34] <crimsun> were you using breezy or dapper?
[11:34] <Anony> dapper
[11:34] <crimsun> which kernel?
[11:34] <Anony> lemme check
[11:34] <mada> wb Crowe
[11:34] <Crowe> thanks
[11:34] <Anony> Although I updated and upgraded today and it has been workling for hours
[11:34] <dli> Anony, rebuild your kernel, and get away from those bugs :)
[11:34] <mada> Crowe: how's it running?
[11:35] <Crowe> Problem persists though. It works okay when it's in a window,but in fullscreen it is very jumpy.
[11:35] <Anony> kernel 2.5.15-23-386 is the subdir of the modules directory, does that help?
[11:35] <dibblego> if I have NVidia graphics, but I also want to use a dual head display, do I still follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ?
[11:35] <mada> Crowe: strange
[11:36] <crimsun> Anony: sure. There's a newer kernel, 2.5.15-25-386
[11:36] <crimsun> Anony: sure. There's a newer kernel, 2.6.15-25-386, rather
[11:36] <Anony> Too bad I cant update :/
[11:36] <Anony> I will have to do a complete reinstall ;_;
[11:36] <crimsun> let's get you back online first.
[11:36] <Frogzoo> Anony: you sure you want a 386 kernel? have you a p2 or better?
[11:36] <kungfugoat> can anyone tell me why ubuntu 6.06 is not recognizing my external usb hard disks?
[11:36] <blahh> i have a 2.6 1gig ram p4 should i use 386 ot 686???
[11:36] <Anony> p2 mobile
[11:36] <Ng> dibblego: yeah, get the driver installed and then look at TwinView. There's a rough guide on the Xinerama Howto page in the community docs
[11:36] <Dr_L_Z2A> does anyone know how to play mpg videos in ubuntu?
[11:36] <Frogzoo> Anony: that will run 686
[11:37] <Anony> Frogzoo, oh cool
[11:37] <crimsun> Anony: the first thing I'd do is ``apt-get install linux-686''
[11:37] <EdLin> blahh: 686 is better
[11:37] <kungfugoat> I can plug in a compact flash card in the 6-in-1 reader and it pops up on the desktop but the hard disks aren't recognized
[11:37] <[b] urk> Dr_L_Z2A, install VLC
[11:37] <charle97> blahh, 686
[11:37] <blahh> thanks.....should i do a full reinstall?
[11:37] <kungfugoat> dmesg doesn't give any clues either
[11:37] <Anony> I wish I could load these modules :/
[11:37] <EdLin> blahh: you don't need to, just apt-get install linux-686
[11:37] <dli> kungfugoat, try, to "sudo modprobe " them, one by one, sd_mod sg ehci-hcd uhci-hcd usb-storage
[11:37] <pequatre> hi everyone. Can anyone help me with my iptable rules ? see here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17231 . Emule works fine with those while azureus won't let me open connections to other peers (dDB and scrape work fine though). What gives ? I use Azureus on port 50001 and Dapper...
[11:38] <Frogzoo> blahh: nope - just 'sudo apt-get linux-image-686'
[11:38] <Crowe> I don't think my res has anything to do with it. The bigger the window the slower it runs
[11:38] <mada> Crowe: unfortunately i don't know what to tell you, normally issues like that reside in the xorg.conf file ... but according to ati the "fglrx" is correct
[11:38] <blahh> EdLin, just got done installing that
[11:38] <[b] urk> kungfugoat, i think many other have the same problem, search the ubuntuforums
[11:38] <EdLin> blahh: then you need to reboot, not reinstall
[11:38] <blahh> EdLin, do i need to configure grub
[11:38] <EdLin> blahh: Ubuntu configures GRUB for you. :-)
[11:38] <charle97> ubuntu will reconfigure for you
[11:38] <blahh> sweet
[11:39] <Subhuman_> hfgh
[11:39] <xice> i have an AMD64, would i benefit from `apt-get install linux-686' ?? or do i need an AMD packag
[11:39] <Frogzoo> xice: 686 is the best
[11:40] <[b] urk> pequatre, whats --sport? is it the port on your comp?
[11:40] <xice> Frogzoo, suitable for AMD64 3000+?
[11:40] <Subhuman_> Frogzoo, not for an AMD cpu
[11:40] <crimsun> Anony: the snd-nm256 driver has quirks. You probably need to pass reset_workaround=1 reset_workaround_2=1
[11:40] <Frogzoo> xice: you can run the k7 kernel for 64 bit, but various things aren't supported
[11:40] <Anony> I cannot "apt-get install linux-686" because the cdrom is not recognized
[11:40] <Subhuman_> xice, get the k7 kernel if your using the x86 distro.
[11:40] <pequatre> [b] urk, --sport = source port
[11:40] <kristian> Hatred, you here?
[11:40] <Frogzoo> xice: yup, totally supported
[11:41] <[b] urk> pequatre, --dport = ?
[11:41] <xice> ok ty, i bb with results
[11:41] <Anony> Is there someway I can force re-checking and loading of all these modules I so desperately need?
[11:41] <pequatre> [b] urk, so it's the remote port... and dport = destination port
[11:41] <crimsun> Anony: not really. Which network card is it?
[11:41] <Frogzoo> xice: just be aware that for 686, you have to reinstall - and it's 32 bit only
[11:41] <Anony> crimsun, rtl8180
[11:41] <[b] urk> why do you forward 65535 to many different destination ports? thats not very clever...
[11:41] <crimsun> Anony: using which driver, rtl8150?
[11:42] <Anony> crimsun, I have the .ko file for it in the proper directory, but when I try to load it I get an error that the module is not found
[11:42] <Anony> crimsun, I am not sure which driver it was using because it is not using a driver now.
[11:42] <Anony> probably 818x
[11:42] <xice> Frogzoo, i am currently in 32bit, with the default 386 i guess... without reinstalling, should i install 686?
[11:42] <crimsun> Anony: then just ``sudo depmod -e''
[11:42] <Anony> k
[11:42] <Frogzoo> xice: yes, that's the right approach
[11:42] <pequatre> [b] urk, what do you mean ? i forward packets whose source port is from 1024 to 65535
[11:42] <Hexagon> hi again
[11:42] <zburatoru> can i install the desktop or server version from the same CD?
[11:43] <[b] urk> pequatre, you cannot forward a source port to many different destination ports can you?
[11:43] <crimsun> it should use r818x from the looks of it.
[11:43] <xice> Frogzoo, ok, is the correct package called linux-image-k7
[11:43] <Anony> crimsun, did that, there was no output.
[11:43] <Hexagon> Is there a key combination to change input language?
[11:43] <crimsun> Anony: good.
[11:43] <pequatre> [b] urk, i don't think i do ??
[11:43] <Anony> crimsun, What do I do next? reboot?
[11:43] <crimsun> ``lsmod |grep ^r818x''
[11:43] <pequatre> [b] urk, let me see
[11:43] <dli> Hexagon, install scim , Ctl-Spacebar
[11:44] <Frogzoo> xice: linux-image-686  - or maybe linux-686 will work too
[11:44] <Hexagon> ok
[11:44] <Anony> crimsun, no output
[11:44] <RawSewage> how do you pronounce GNO<E
[11:44] <[b] urk> pequatre, you're forwarding 1024:65535 to 4662, 4672, and 50001
[11:44] <RawSewage> GNOME
[11:44] <xice> Frogzoo, so is that actually a new kernel, or just some sort of optimisation?
[11:44] <crimsun> Anony: ok, now ``sudo modprobe r818x''
[11:44] <kristian> Ewh... How do I install LimeWire?
[11:45] <pequatre> [b] urk, i forward packets whose destination port is 4662 to 4662, and so on
[11:45] <mada> kristian: you don't
[11:45] <pequatre> [b] urk, those are not ALL the packets (if i'm not mistaken)
[11:45] <maxxx> kristian, use gtk-gnutella... it's faster than limewire
[11:45] <Anony> crimsun, I checked the modulename with "locate rtl818x | grep .ko" and got the correct name
[11:45] <Anony> The modprobe command still reports that the module coould not be found
[11:45] <kristian> maxxx, sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella?
[11:45] <mada> kristian: errr, i sit corrected ... apparently there is a linux client
[11:46] <crimsun> Anony: what command did you type to load it?
[11:46] <maxxx> kristian, yes.. but make sure you have the right repos enabled
[11:46] <kristian> multiverse, and universe?
[11:46] <tempest1> hi, does anybody have any experience with Intel Pro Wireless cards on Ubuntu?
[11:46] <martinez> a
[11:46] <Seveas> b
[11:46] <martinez> hola
[11:46] <Seveas> !es
[11:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:46] <dli> tempest1, which one?
[11:46] <tempest1> The wiki says it's supposed to be detected on install, but iwconfig shows nothing
[11:46] <POVaddct> tempest1: which IPW type?
[11:46] <hansi> ?
[11:46] <martinez> eres espaol
[11:46] <Anony> crimsun, "sudo modprobe rtl818x"
[11:46] <tempest1> 2200
[11:47] <crimsun> Anony: you made a typo.
[11:47] <maxxx> tempest1, i have a great experience. it worked out of the box
[11:47] <dli> tempest1, sudo modprobe ipw2200
[11:47] <POVaddct> tempest1: no problem, runs out of the box
[11:47] <Anony> crimsun, what is the typo?
[11:47] <crimsun> Anony: it's r818x, not rtl818x.
[11:47] <Anony> ...
[11:47] <zburatoru> do i install the server version from the same CD as the desktop???
[11:47] <Frogzoo> xice: it's the same kernel, compiled to run on p2 architecture (cf 386) so it's quite an improvement
[11:47] <Anony> You are right
[11:47] <Anony> It worked
[11:47] <pequatre> [b] urk, 1024:65535 doesn't mean my packet comes on any port in this range on my router, it means it was sent from any of these ports by the Azureus peer.
[11:47] <tempest1> for some reason it didn't work out of the box for me
[11:47] <Anony> crimsun, Now what?
[11:48] <xice> Frogzoo, ok, what sort of difference will it make, in a nutshell
[11:48] <tempest1> this is a fresh install of 6.06 LTS
[11:48] <tempest1> any ideas?
[11:48] <Anony> crimsun Iwconfig reports no wirless extentions
[11:48] <POVaddct> tempest1: what exactly does not work? what did you try so far?
[11:48] <zburatoru> can anyone pls help me???
[11:48] <tempest1> POVaddct, iwconfig isn't showing ath0 ...
[11:48] <crimsun> Anony: does that device need firmware loaded?
[11:48] <Anony> crimsun, no
[11:48] <maxxx> can anybody tell me how the iptables modules get loaded at startup? i compiled all the modules ubuntu uses into my debian kernel... but now i need to get them to load... i noticed they're not in /etc/modules... any suggestions?
[11:49] <POVaddct> tempest1: ath0 is _not_ for IPW
[11:49] <[b] urk> pequatre, i think you have misunderstood a little
[11:49] <crimsun> Anony: what does ``dmesg|tail'' say regarding the network device?
[11:49] <charle97> zburatoru, what cd do you have?
[11:49] <POVaddct> tempest1: ath0 is only for atheros chipsets (madwifi driver)
[11:49] <tempest1> POVaddct, well, there's no wireless extensions at all
[11:49] <tempest1> oh ok
[11:49] <zburatoru> well i ordered by shipit the CDs
[11:49] <Anony> initializing module
[11:49] <ubuntu_> I reinstalled system and I backup all deb files from /var/cache/apt. Can i use these files now? because my connection very slow for update (eg: if I type apt-get install gaim, it'll use my /var/cache's deb file)
[11:49] <POVaddct> tempest1: you should see eth0 and eth1 (with eth1 being the wifi card)
[11:49] <kristian> What can I find in gtk-gnutella?
[11:49] <Anony> wireless extensions version 19
[11:49] <zburatoru> they haven't got here yet
[11:49] <[b] urk> pequatre, when a peer sends something it labels it with yourip:yourazureusport
[11:49] <Anony> initializing proc filesystem
[11:49] <tempest1> POVaddct, I don't
[11:50] <charle97> zburatoru, the alternate cd should work
[11:50] <POVaddct> tempest1: which eth interfaces do you see when running iwconfig?
[11:50] <tempest1> eth0
[11:50] <Anony> I can't let you do this Anony
[11:50] <Anony> crimsun, heh
[11:50] <[b] urk> pequatre, if you dont have portforwarding in you firewall it will be stopped there because your comp doesnt want direct connections through an open port
[11:50] <POVaddct> tempest1: eth0 is most likely your lan card
[11:50] <crimsun> Anony: ``ifconfig -a'' should show the interface; does it?
[11:50] <tempest1> it is, tha'ts what I'm using now
[11:51] <Anony> crimsun, shows only lo
[11:51] <tempest1> that doesn't either
[11:51] <POVaddct> tempest1: is the ipw2200 module loaded?
[11:51] <tempest1> lspci does
[11:51] <pequatre> [b] urk, i'm afraid i don't understand. Can you give me an example ?
[11:51] <maxxx> kristian, did you get it installed?
[11:51] <tempest1> POVaddct, I tried modprobe
[11:51] <POVaddct> tempest1: dmesg | grep ipw
[11:52] <[b] urk> pequatre, bert sends you a packed with <yourip>:50001 that should arrive in azureus
[11:52] <pequatre> k
[11:52] <crimsun> Anony: does ``cat /proc/interrupts'' show the device?
[11:52] <[b] urk> pequatre, but if you dont have portforwarding for that port the packet will be discarded
[11:52] <Frogzoo> xice: you'll get mmx support & generally faster execution
[11:52] <tempest1> POVaddct, unable to load firmware
[11:52] <kristian> Maxxx, yes :)
[11:52] <Anony> crimsun, I dont see it listed.
[11:53] <tempest1>  ipw2200: ipw-2.4-boot.fw load failed: Reason -2
[11:53] <POVaddct> tempest1: for some reason, the firmware for the ipw2200 card is not installed
[11:53] <[b] urk> so what you want to do is to forward for example 50001 to 50001 (its easier to use the same number on the outside and on the inside)
[11:53] <POVaddct> tempest1: the firmware must be located in /lib/firmware/<yourkernelversion>
[11:53] <Anony> crimsun Listed are, timer, i8042, cascade, uhci_hcd:usb1,i8042,ide0,ide1
[11:53] <maxxx> kristian, cool... i think you'll find it better than limewire... and it doesn't run on java
[11:54] <dli> tempest1, you need the ipw2200-firmware package
[11:54] <kristian> ok :)
[11:54] <POVaddct> tempest1: ls /lib/firmware/$(uname -r)/ipw*
[11:54] <pequatre> [b] urk, $IPTABLES -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $EXTIF -p tcp -d $EXTIP --sport 1024:65535 --dport 50001 -j DNAT --to $LANHOST
[11:54] <AaSFi> any1 can explain why am i getting this?
[11:54] <AaSFi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17232
[11:54] <ub1> Hi, I am real new to ubuntu, how to install xgl ?
[11:54] <AaSFi> its about getting 3d with ati card
[11:54] <tempest1> POVaddct, I have a fw tarball from earlier
[11:54] <tempest1> I'll try putting those files in /lib/firmware
[11:54] <maxxx> ubl, you have an nvidia card?
[11:54] <pequatre> --dport means the packet was addressed to 50001
[11:55] <ub1> yes gforce 5500
[11:55] <[b] urk> pequatre, i dont really understand what you need sport for?
[11:55] <POVaddct> tempest1: not directly in /lib/firmware. ubuntu expects the firmware files in a directory named after the kernel version
[11:55] <[b] urk> and what does $LANHOST return?
[11:55] <Anony> yay!, got the mouse working!
[11:55] <londondave> any luck dli?
[11:55] <POVaddct> tempest1: don't use the tarball if there is a ubuntu package for that
[11:55] <pequatre> [b] urk, because i don't want packets coming fro <ip>:port with ports below 1024
[11:55] <dli> londondave, it simply builds :(
[11:55] <[b] urk> pequatre, ok i get it
[11:56] <tempest1> POVaddct, I know, I was doing that but I don't kow why I didn't say it that way
[11:56] <tempest1> too early I guess
[11:56] <cwill1> anybody have memory leakish problems with gnome-cups-icon?
[11:56] <pequatre> that is: the remote host
[11:56] <maxxx> ubl, this link should work if you follow it very closely: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[11:56] <maxxx> ubl, also if you want to get the newest builds, you'll have to add quinn's repos to you sources.list
[11:56] <[b] urk> pequatre, what does $LANHOST mean? you must specify an internal port...
[11:56] <crimsun> cwill1: yes. It's bug #45406, and a fix is being considered for dapper-updates.
[11:56] <ub1> maxxx thanks Im going to try
[11:56] <Anony> crimsun, Does it seem like I will definately have to reinstall?
[11:56] <londondave> dli: I wonder where I am going wrong-so you have a kernel source in /usr/src/linux?
[11:57] <maxxx> ubl, good luck :)
[11:57] <dli> londondave, but I use vanilla source, as I figured out, it works better with vanilla
[11:57] <crimsun> Anony: not definitely
[11:57] <dli> londondave, as usual, /usr/src/linux is just a symlink
[11:57] <crimsun> Anony: can you install packages from the cdrom using apt-get ?
[11:57] <cwill1> crimsun: okay, thanks.  Any reason why I shouldn't just disable it?  And how exactly would I keep it from starting for now?
[11:57] <tempest1> POVaddct, do I need to restart or anything?
[11:57] <Toma-> londondave: still going?!
[11:57] <Anony> crimsun, Not unless I can get the module for the cdrom installed
[11:57] <POVaddct> tempest1: just unload and reload the module
[11:57] <Toma-> londondave: are you using the stock ubuntu kernel?
[11:57] <crimsun> cwill1: I don't use it, so I can't comment on those questions.
[11:57] <pequatre> [b] urk, $LANHOST is 192.168.0.2
[11:58] <kristian> Maxxx, do I need to open ports or something? Cause downloading dosn't start..
[11:58] <Anony> crimsun, it is an NEC internal cdrom, I will look a bit
[11:58] <POVaddct> tempest1: sudo modprobe -r ipw2200 ; sudo modprobe ipw2200
[11:58] <dli> londondave, 2.6.15.7 is the lastest 2.6.15 from kernel.org
[11:58] <cwill1> crimsun: I don't think I use it either;  it's just running by default :/
[11:58] <londondave> Toma- afraid so, dli has confirmed my fears that I am doing something simple wrong
[11:58] <POVaddct> tempest1: and check dmesg output again
[11:58] <crimsun> Anony: IDE cdrom?
[11:58] <tempest1> POVaddct, woot!
[11:58] <pequatre> [b] urk, but you're right, i don't define a port to be forwarded to...
[11:58] <POVaddct> tempest1: hehe
[11:58] <crimsun> Anony: meaning ATAPI, sorry
[11:58] <maxxx> kristian, you shouldn't need to... unless you have a firewall blocking outgoing traffic.. which is quite unusual
[11:58] <pppoe_dude> morning
[11:58] <Anony> crimsun, I believe so. I will try the plain "cdrom" .ko file
[11:58] <Toma-> londondave: its always something simple :)
[11:59] <pequatre> [b] urk, i tihnk the default for iptable is to forward to the same port it got the packet on...
[11:59] <dli> londondave, I suggest you to do the same, just forget ubuntu kernel, go kernel.org download a copy of stable kernel source, build your own kernel, and then the driver
[11:59] <londondave> dli: so do you think I should just download the vanilla kernel for kernel.org and build a new kernel?
[11:59] <crimsun> Anony: did you (or some process) muck with the blacklists or udev rules at any point?
[11:59] <Anony> crimsun, Yes, I beleive so
[11:59] <[b] urk> pequatre, to make it easy use: --dport 4662 -j DNAT --to $LANHOST:4662
[12:00] <crimsun> Anony: meaning you did and/or some process?
[12:00] <cwillu> any quick way to get ubotu to give me a link to a particular bug number?
[12:00] <Toma-> londondave: no
[12:00] <[b] urk> and so on with the same port on the outside as on the inside
[12:00] <kristian> maxxx, it started now ;) cool :)
[12:00] <Toma-> londondave: Whats the location of this package you want to builkd? ill compile it for you
[12:00] <Seveas> cwillu, ubugtu can do that for you in #ubuntu-offtopic or any dev channel
[12:00] <londondave> cheers dli, why do not agree Toma
[12:00] <Anony> crimsun, I checked the blacklist to see if my sound card was listed, but didnt make any changes, and I tried to cat some file from udev that was reported as nonexistant
[12:00] <pequatre> [b] urk, ok will try that
[12:01] <Toma-> londondave: vanilla kernel hasnt got all the ubuntu patches
[12:01] <cwillu> thanks Seveas
[12:01] <[b] urk> pequatre, where do you find that iptables file?
[12:01] <pequatre> [b] urk, i got it from the net
[12:01] <dli> londondave, if a feature is important and stable, it's already in vanilla
[12:01] <[b] urk> pequatre, but where is it on the computer?
[12:02] <crimsun> Anony: ok. That sounds awfully fishy. Can you access the cdrom now?
[12:02] <pequatre> [b] urk, in /home/usr/scripts/nat.sh why ?
[12:02] <Anony> crimsun, Not sure yet, it didnt automount and I am reading about how to do it manually
[12:02] <dli> londondave, whatever it works, though
[12:02] <mebsd> how do i make dsl or pppoe whatever in kubuntu live
[12:02] <pequatre> [b] urk, it's own by root and i start it as root if you want to know
[12:03] <[b] urk> oh
[12:03] <Seveas> !adsl
[12:03] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[12:03] <londondave> Toma its ueagle-atm I'm using 2.6.15-25 kernel, if i can get out of a kernel build that would be great
[12:03] <[b] urk> pequatre, i though that was a config file
[12:03] <stimz> lo all
[12:03] <londondave> thanks for you help dli i do appreciate it
[12:03] <crimsun> Anony: you probably need ``sudo modprobe ide-cd''
[12:03] <pequatre> [b] urk, no, just a script
[12:03] <londondave> Toma: http://download.gna.org/ueagleatm/ueagle-atm-1.3.tar.gz
[12:03] <[b] urk> yeah
[12:03] <Anony> Got the cdrom working
[12:04] <Anony> crimsun, used modprobe cdrom, mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[12:04] <crimsun> good.
[12:04] <Toma-> londondave: ok, gimme a minute
[12:05] <Anony> Is there an apt-get command I can run to put all these missing modules back into startup?
[12:05] <protocol2> how do I go about starting network-manager from the console?
[12:05] <londondave> toma-cheers mate, it replaces the faulty driver module that comes with ubuntu dapper -it should work
[12:05] <Anony> crimsun, Is there an apt-get command I can run to put all these missing modules back into startup?
[12:05] <crimsun> Anony: no
[12:06] <crimsun> Anony: apt-get only installs packages. It knows nothing of what needs to be done with package contents.
[12:06] <kristian> maxxx, where is the files I download saved?
[12:06] <Anony> crimsun, Shall I upgrade to 686 now?
[12:06] <mebsd> where is that "nework setting" in  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[12:06] <crimsun> Anony: that'll be difficult without working network.
[12:06] <Anony> Alright.
[12:07] <Toma-> londondave: compiles totally fine here. just back tracking to see what you need to do
[12:07] <crimsun> Anony: however, if you have a usb "thumbdrive" with capacity of >=256 MB, you can probably sneakernet a solution
[12:07] <stimz> I'm a newbie to Ubuntu (but not debian) I just installed Ubuntu breezy on my VMWare client at work, and upgraded to dapper, I restart and X doesn't work at all. How can I discover what is going on, how do i access the logs, to help me and you work it out
[12:07] <Anony> crimsun, I am going to start a fresh install and go to bed, upgrade to 686 in the morning.
[12:07] <dli> Toma-, it does compile with ubuntu kernel?
[12:07] <Toma-> dli: perfect
[12:08] <Anony> crimsun, Thank you for all your time and help
[12:08] <POVaddct> tempest1: btw, do you have a more recent kernel than 2.6.15-23? because my ipw2200 driver doesn't need ipw-2.4-boot.fw, but ipw-{bss,ibss,sniffer}.fw
[12:08] <protocol2> how do I go about starting network-manager from the console?
[12:08] <Anony> crimsun, I just need to go to sleep and I dont want to spend hours figuring out what modules I need to load.
[12:08] <dli> Toma-, I expected problems, but it simple builds with vanilla kernel
[12:08] <Anony> crimsun, I will make a backup of my lsmod once I have the base install working
[12:08] <Toma-> londondave: run this for me "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-386"
[12:09] <Toma-> (if youre running 386 kernel)
[12:09] <POVaddct> tempest1: no, it is ipw2200-{bss,ibss,sniffer}.fw
[12:09] <londondave> Toma-I can't I have no connection under linux, I'm using xp at the mo to figure it out, and download what I can
[12:09] <crimsun> Anony: well, the key for you once you have a working install is to use ``sudo modprobe snd-nm256 reset_workaround=1 reset_workaround_2=1''
[12:09] <dli> protocol2, something like , sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[12:09] <Toma-> brb
[12:10] <Anony> crimsun, Thanks!
[12:10] <LordElph> after an intrusion, is there a way to verify all packages are OK (or reinstall all packages?)
[12:10] <foxiness> what i need to show "quicktime" movie ? "after installed easyubuntu it can play it on totem but only sound with out pic"
[12:10] <Anony> crimsun, Once I have it working I will be sure to post that in one of the many thread about this chipset and that problem
[12:10] <Toma-> londondave: brb, phone
[12:10] <londondave> Toma-no probs and thanks
[12:11] <dli> londondave, buy a router, which can do adsl (PPPoE)
[12:11] <dli> londondave, then, you don't have to worry anymore
[12:12] <Toma-> londondave: pm your email to me and ill send it
[12:13] <londondave> dli: i was using a router and it worked fine then just could not get a connection, I don't know of a way to daignose if my dell laptop network card is faulty or the router?
[12:13] <Toma-> londondave: all you should have to do is untar it, then run "sudo make install"
[12:13] <protocol2> dli, i was reffering to getting my network manager running
[12:13] <londondave> Toma: I tried but it wanted to change to a /lib/modules/*/build directory that did not exist
[12:14] <stimz> Lo, no ideas about the x problem and how to diagnose it?
[12:14] <salah> how do I save a image from VLC? (taken screenshot, but where is it saving the picture?)
[12:14] <Toma-> londondave: ahhhhhhh, so its the make install step that didnt work?
[12:14] <londondave> after I typed sudo make, if you look at the makefile it said unknown lib/modules directory
[12:15] <Toma-> londondave: ahh ok. hang on a sec
[12:15] <londondave> Toma: it simply refused to build after sudo make
[12:16] <stimz> hello?
[12:17] <Toma-> londondave: cd into the ueable-usb folder and run "KERNELDIR=/lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/build make"
[12:17] <Toma-> copy and paste it.
[12:18] <Toma-> without the "
[12:18] <stimz> can anyone see me?
[12:18] <apokryphos> stimz: nope
[12:18] <Toma-> stimz: nope. i can see your nickname tho
[12:18] <ESPOiG> stimz, no
[12:19] <stimz> ...?
[12:19] <dli> stimz, none can see you
[12:19] <stimz> why?
[12:19] <RShadow> stimz, I was going to say no, but didn't want to be sarcastic :)
[12:19] <stimz> oh
[12:19] <dli> stimz, I wonder why either
[12:19] <ESPOiG> stimz, we r messin with yah
[12:19] <stimz> <---gullable
[12:19] <Toma-> stimz: X problems?
[12:19] <stimz> ya
[12:19] <rixxon> anyone successfully compiled vim70 on ubuntu?
[12:19] <Toma-> stimz: well, whats wrong with it?
[12:19] <ESPOiG> rixxon, just use cream
[12:19] <stimz> how do i get a log so i can diagnose it?
[12:19] <rixxon> ESPOiG: cream?
[12:19] <stimz> It crashes and dumps to root login
[12:20] <dli> stimz, /var/log
[12:20] <Toma-> stimz: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:20] <stimz> no X
[12:20] <londondave> Toma: thanks-mind you there was not a build directory in /lib/modules should I create on as root or does the makefile do that?
[12:20] <ESPOiG> it is sumtin or rather built on vim
[12:20] <stimz> okay 1 min
[12:20] <Toma-> londondave: run make as normal user
[12:20] <ESPOiG> rixxon, cream is grt text editor i love it
[12:20] <pequatre> [b] urk, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH ! sh*t ! i had the proxy option set in Azureus !!! from the times i used a proxy !!!! i unchecked it and it rolls !!
[12:20] <pequatre> [b] urk, sorry for wasting your time. i'm such an idiot :(
[12:20] <ESPOiG> rixxon, it is repositories, just sudo apt-get install cream
[12:20] <RShadow> any good HOWTO's on getting network-manager working with ndiswrapper? My wireless is working, but according to network-manager it isn't
[12:21] <rixxon> ESPOiG: uhm, but the problem is compilation ... configure doesn't find any terminal library (i.e. ncurses)
[12:21] <ESPOiG> rixxon, it is repositories, just sudo apt-get install cream
[12:21] <salah> what should I use for watching and taking pictures from webcam? it's a logitech webcam
[12:21] <dli> rixxon, libncurses5-dev
[12:21] <rixxon> dli: thanks
[12:21] <ESPOiG> or do wat dli said
[12:21] <londondave> ok I'll try that be back in a bit, I have a strange feeling that the kernel headers and the kernel source are messing each other up
[12:21] <Toma-> londondave: right. well, in that case, you havent installed the headers.
[12:21] <Toma-> londondave: wait a sec
[12:22] <Toma-> what kernel version do you have, and what kernel headers version do you have?
[12:22] <ESPOiG> dli, help me here, wen i put in my usb drive thingo in gnome it auto mounts :P... right now wen i put it in fluxbox it dont, know i just think that fluxbox aint advanced enough to do that, but who do i mount it so i can see it in /media/ etc can i type sumtin in or sumtin
[12:23] <londondave> kernel is 2.6.15-25 and headers are 2.6.15-25-386
[12:23] <dli> ESPOiG, do you have /etc/init.d/ivman started auto?
[12:24] <ESPOiG> dli, i dunno how do i find out, is that to do with my fluxbox startup script
[12:24] <dli> londondave, kernel must have a similar extension -386, but install 686 anyway
[12:24] <Toma-> londondave: can you see the /usr/src dir from win xp?
[12:24] <dli> ESPOiG, ls /etc/rc3.d/ |grep ivman
[12:24] <londondave> TomaL brb I'll reboot into linux and try this out-yes I can see /usr/src
[12:25] <dli> londondave, you are use explore2fs in windows
[12:25] <Toma-> londondave: whats in it?
[12:25] <ESPOiG> dli, i did it now wat
[12:25] <londondave> Toma: linux-source-2.6.15
[12:26] <Toma-> londondave: thats all?
[12:26] <azcazandco> hello folks
[12:26] <londondave> Toma: that's the directory name for the tree with a linux symlink pointing to it
[12:26] <Toma-> londondave: you dont have the headers installed.
[12:27] <azcazandco> Can anybody help me find where my kde theme manager is?  I think I managed to install a theme but have no idea where to access the manager
[12:27] <londondave> Toma: where would they be in /usr/src?
[12:28] <Toma-> londondave: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-25
[12:28] <ESPOiG> dli, i did it now wat
[12:28] <dli> ESPOiG, found anything?
[12:28] <londondave> Toma: thanks I'll try that out and see what happens
[12:28] <ESPOiG> i dunno was i lookin for sumtin
[12:28] <ESPOiG> :D
[12:28] <londondave> brb
[12:28] <ESPOiG> ill put it in then :P
[12:28] <ompaul> azcazandco, there is a #kubuntu channel they deal with kde more than here, although there are kde people here ubuntu itself as opposed to kubuntu is based on gnome
[12:29] <azcazandco> ompaul: thanks
[12:29] <ompaul> azcazandco, yw
[12:29] <ESPOiG> dli, it aint dun anything
[12:29] <azcazandco> Still trying to gather the resources on where I can find out info
[12:29] <azcazandco> so cheers for the directions...
[12:30] <azcazandco> I have been playing with several desktop environments so far
[12:30] <azcazandco> xfce was nice
[12:30] <azcazandco> but i found a slick theme for kde which i wanna try out
[12:30] <ESPOiG> azcazandco, xfce was nice but i went bak to fluxbox for my laptop :D
[12:31] <dli> ESPOiG, sorry, my bad, just install the package ivman
[12:31] <ESPOiG> ah k thx
[12:31] <ESPOiG> dli, ty
[12:31] <stimz> right, had a look at the log, got some warnings Font renderers are registered at priority 0 and missing libGLcore.a:m_debug_xform.o and some others. I'm used to the old startx command, how do i test x.org?
[12:31] <EdLin> stimz: x.org uses "startx"
[12:32] <EdLin> stimz: Ubuntu defaults to using a session manager
[12:32] <stimz> hmm... okay in which case i'll print a little of the errors comin up
[12:32] <ESPOiG> dli, i have installed the package, now what
[12:34] <stimz> x:connot stat /ect/x11/x (no such file or directory)
[12:34] <ESPOiG> stimz, lol
[12:34] <jacksonj04> Hi there, newcomer to Ubuntu here. Problem: Trying to install using either default or expert mode leads to 'Unable to read file' error when copying install files to HDD. Happens over several CDs on versions 5.10 and 6.06. Any quick ideas?
[12:34] <stimz> xinit: connection refused (errno 111_: unable to connect to x server
[12:35] <stimz> xinit: no such process (errno 3): Server error
[12:35] <EdLin> jacksonj04: how big is your Ubuntu partition?
[12:35] <ESPOiG> jacksonj04, did u think it may be hdd
[12:35] <dli> ESPOiG, it should launch itself; ivman-launch
[12:35] <ESPOiG> dli, ta
[12:36] <jacksonj04> EdLin - it's not even got as far as specifying partitions
[12:36] <ESPOiG> dli, wat is this gunna do
[12:36] <ESPOiG> jacksonj04, could be ur cd-rom or dvd drive
[12:36] <dli> ESPOiG, plugin a usb disk
[12:36] <EdLin> jacksonj04: that's impossible, since you said it was copying install files to hdd
[12:37] <ESPOiG> dli, k
[12:37] <dli> ESPOiG, wait and check dmesg , /media
[12:37] <jacksonj04> EdLin - my apologies, copying to RAM *beats head on desk*
[12:37] <EdLin> jacksonj04: OK.. Sorry. How much RAM do you have?
[12:37] <jacksonj04> 1024mb
[12:37] <stimz> EdLin: what do you mean by "ubuntu defaults to using a session manager" do you mean GDM or something?
[12:37] <dli> ESPOiG, just dobule check, you should not put usb disks in /etc/fstab, if you want to use ivman
[12:37] <EdLin> jacksonj04: that's more than enough
[12:38] <ESPOiG> dli, i lost u at check sumtin
[12:38] <ESPOiG> :D
[12:38] <EdLin> stimz: yes
[12:38] <stimz> ok
[12:38] <ESPOiG> dli, how do i check
[12:38] <jacksonj04> verify CD says it's fine... oh well. I'll keep playing.
[12:38] <jacksonj04> thanks anyway
[12:38] <dli> ESPOiG, dmesg|tail , ls /media
[12:38] <EdLin> jacksonj04: run memtest to see if your RAM has a bad chip
[12:39] <ubuntu__> are there problems with the rt2500 driver shipped with dapper, because I am unable to get wpa working, even with the guide on the ubuntu wiki, do you need to use the cvs version and build it?
[12:39] <stimz> typed gdm into root, got five major errors will list one: (process:4436): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion 'hash_table !=NULL' failed
[12:39] <ESPOiG> dli, it just says sum stuff with lots of error words iin it
[12:40] <EdLin> stimz: a lot of these sorts of errors are meaningless
[12:41] <ESPOiG> dli, i just unplugged it and plugged it bak in still nothiong
[12:41] <stimz> okay, well I thought it might help. Whats the prognosis? Next step re-install?
[12:41] <dli> ESPOiG, " lots of error words "
[12:42] <EdLin> stimz: I don't think so, did you make any changes by-hand that could have led to X not loading?
[12:42] <ESPOiG> dli, it says error alot
[12:42] <ESPOiG> :D
[12:43] <stimz> EdLin: no changes by hand, was operating Breezy 6.06? and changed repositorys to dapper, apt-get dist-upgrade. And bang nada works. Just got prompt so to speak ;)
[12:44] <EdLin> stimz: maybe installing clean from a dapper disk would be the answer then.
[12:44] <stimz> It was a very stripped down version of breezy at that...
[12:44] <dli> ESPOiG, do you expect any support at all, by saying just " error alot "
[12:44] <stimz> EdLin: not possible, I don't have a disk and I'm running it on VMWare, I could d/l it from their website tho...
[12:45] <stimz> (all 800 megs)
[12:45] <EdLin> stimz: I don't have any experience with VMWare.
[12:45] <stimz> breezy works fine, thats what I'm writing from now
[12:45] <stimz> k
[12:46] <stimz> understood, as far as I understand, VMWare operates the OS as a virtual machine, you can edit the OS and it has no problems on VMware, for instance I synaptic'd gaim to speak here and its fine.
[12:47] <Saraqual> Hi guys, I tried finding documentation about IBM x206 series and the raid controller on the motherboard in regards with compatibility issues with the 64bit edition, but I'm not finding a lot of info on it, and IBM just shrugs and says we support fedora and suse, problem is ubuntu does not pick up the hdd if you mirror it, any ideas where I can go and look for some documentation?
[12:47] <ESPOiG> dli, sorry im a bit busy dont worry
[12:47] <stimz> Perhaps more serious OS changes are not liked....
[12:47] <ESPOiG> dli, ill figure it out later
[12:47] <usuarioxulitapal> ola k pasa aki nadie abla o k ?
[12:47] <stimz> anyhow, will post my results if i get it to work again. Til then Ciao!
[12:48] <ompaul> !es
[12:48] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:49] <azcazandco> mumbles-laptop: are you mumbles down in london?
[12:49] <protocol1> is there a reason why I cant hear music from off of myspace?
[12:49] <protocol1> and yes I do have sound working
[12:50] <foxiness> is there a way to improve synaptic "apt-get" its poor when it come to download something "d4x download it rate 128kb" and "apt-get 900b or less and can not continue more than min and get failed"
[12:50] <EdLin> protocol1: you probably need to get more codecs. Check out the RestrictedFormats Ubuntu wiki page.
[12:50] <Toma-> foxiness: change mirrors
[12:50] <protocol1> !java
[12:50] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:51] <foxiness> Toma-, to what?
[12:51] <protocol1> i need a url for it
[12:51] <protocol1> plz
[12:51] <Toma-> !sourceomatic
[12:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about sourceomatic
[12:51] <EdLin> the web page in the factoid tells you everything you need
[12:51] <Toma-> !source-o-matic
[12:51] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:52] <Toma-> foxiness: use this ^^^
[12:52] <Toma-> !javadeb
[12:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about javadeb
[12:52] <Toma-> !javadebs
[12:52] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:52] <Toma-> woops
[12:53] <azcazandco> man kubuntu channel is dead...
[12:54] <Toma-> protocol1: what plugin does music from myspace use?
[12:54] <wrath_> Hi all, Im trying to run a game that needs a certain color resolution. How do I change the resolution?
[12:55] <EdLin> !RestrictedFormats
[12:55] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:55] <EdLin> protocol1: ^^
[12:57] <azcazandco> I have a question regarding my video card
[12:58] <azcazandco> my display resolution says it is at 1280x1024 (or whatever it is...) but it still looks like I am on 1024x768
[12:59] <Tmob> azcazandco, where did you see what your display resolution was?
[01:01] <Tmob> azcazandco, you can try making the fonts a bit smaller. i do that with my laptop which only goes upto 1024x768
[01:01] <Gorlist> Hi, im trying install a freeware game called Legends :  http://legendsthegame.net/
[01:02] <Gorlist> downloaded the Linux version, when I try to run the downloaded .sh file comes up with an error
[01:02] <usuarioxulitapal> ola
[01:02] <Gorlist> Could no open, gedit has not been able to detect the character coding
[01:02] <usuarioxulitapal> k pasa
[01:02] <usuarioxulitapal> ablar en spanish
[01:02] <usuarioxulitapal> ok
[01:02] <usuarioxulitapal> what??
[01:03] <Ng> Gorlist: open a terminal and do "chmod +x /wherever/filename.sh" and then "sudo /wherever/filename.sh" (or drop the sudo if you want to install it in your home directory)
[01:03] <Ng> !es
[01:03] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:04] <usuarioxulitapal> ##3
[01:04] <usuarioxulitapal> dsf
[01:04] <usuarioxulitapal> sdfwd
[01:04] <usuarioxulitapal> fwef
[01:04] <usuarioxulitapal> wefdwrefd
[01:04] <usuarioxulitapal> wre
[01:04] <usuarioxulitapal> tr43tr
[01:04] <Gorlist> thanks
[01:04] <Ng> usuarioxulitapal: please stop that
[01:04] <usuarioxulitapal> hello
[01:04] <usuarioxulitapal> hello
[01:04] <gneral> hi
[01:04] <Tmob> Gorlist, the error?
[01:05] <coob> hi - i have an odd problem. my button's are covered in crap: http://booc.coob.org/ubuntubuttoncrap.png - has anyone else had this problem or heard of a resolution?
[01:05] <Ng> coob: firstly, please mind the language, secondly, you're using an ATi card, right?
[01:05] <coob> oh sorry, i didn't think saying crap would offend anyone
[01:05] <coob> my apologies.
[01:05] <Ng> coob: if so, it's a known bug. some people can get rid of it by turning off Render acceleration in the xorg config, but not everyone has had success with that
[01:05] <Tmob> hehe
[01:05] <Tmob> not me ;)
[01:05] <coob> Ng i had it when using the ati xorg driver
[01:05] <Ng> coob: yep
[01:06] <coob> and when using the raedon xorg driver
[01:06] <coob> ah
[01:06] <coob> would turning off the renderaccel mean i'd have dri nomore? or is it 2d render accel?
[01:07] <Ng> coob: RenderAccel only relates to the X Render extension, which is being used by Cairo, which is drawing those buttons. it shouldn't affect DRI
[01:07] <Ng> coob: that does also remind me that some people can make it go away by changing themes to one that Cairo doesn't render
[01:07] <Ng> but I'm not sure which ones that would be
[01:07] <coob> also, i don't know how to go about reporting this or who to, but at install it also seems to falsy identify ATI Mobility Radeon 7500's as 9000's.
[01:08] <Ng> coob: ideally bug reports should be entered into launchpad.net :)
[01:08] <coob> ok\
[01:08] <coob> also, what's teh best way to restart the X server? at the moment I'm justing init 1 then init 5'ing
[01:09] <Ng> coob: "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" from a console, but I tend to log out and then when the login screen appears again hit ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:09] <Ng> which forces X to die and gdm then respawns it
[01:10] <coob> ah ok, thanks
[01:10] <coob> so i take it the, um, stuff on the buttons is due to a bug in cairo?
[01:10] <rixxon> what do i need to compile vim70 with GUI on ubuntu dapper?
[01:11] <coob> ok thanks a lot, i turned off renderaccel and no now more messy buttons. cheers
[01:11] <Ng> coob: it's a bug in the ati driver we think, but it's exposed by cairo
[01:12] <coob> ah ok
[01:12] <coob> does the ati and radeon drivers use parts of each other? i notice when loading the radeon driver xorg also loads the ati driver
[01:13] <hawkaloogie> um... radeon is an ati chip?
[01:13] <coob> yes but there''s 3 different xordg drivers
[01:13] <coob> xorg*
[01:13] <coob> ati, radeon, and fglrx
[01:14] <Ng> coob: tbh I'm not sure what the difference is
[01:14] <coob> ati is for older cards, radeon for the newer ones, and fglx or whatever is ati's binary one
[01:14] <coob> ok, now back to the voodo that is mod_rewrite - once again, thanks
[01:15] <josh___> anyone in here know anything about perl?
[01:15] <kbrooks> hi :P
[01:15] <josh___> heyu
[01:15] <josh___> hey
[01:15] <johlin> I download this wonderful theme, but I can't install it. http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28325729/. How do I do?
[01:15] <johlin> *downloaded
[01:15] <kbrooks> josh___: ask away about perl
[01:15] <josh___> ok
[01:17] <josh___> i am working on a script that needs certain files to run. the first 4 letters of the file will always be a constant... so i am doing a system call to get the last 4 characters of those files... can i just set "%variable = system($command); and have it keep all the files that i specified in a hash/array?
[01:17] <kbrooks> ?
[01:18] <kbrooks> the result o f system() in perl is a return code
[01:18] <Ng> josh___: if you want to read data from a file you might be better off using perl's file i/o tools to do that rather than having an external command do it
[01:18] <josh___> basically i want to make a %var that contains a "ls -l" of all the specified files so i can pop thoses files out when the script runs
[01:20] <josh___> for example this is the system command i am using %files = "ls $indir.$airline"."*"."|cut -f1 -d' '|cut -c5-8|sort -u";
[01:21] <josh___> i want it to keep a hash/array varible of the returned output of that command... then later in the script i would like to start popping the filename and inputting that into the script automagically so instead of having the user specify severeal (if not hundreds) of station identifiers, they can just type all and it will get all the files
[01:21] <josh___> does that make any sense?
[01:22] <Ropechoborra> I am downloading files, in Windows, with Azureus.. is there a way to continue the download in ubuntu?
[01:22] <Frogzoo> ubotu citrix is <reply> For help configuring the Citrix ICA Client, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CitrixICAClientHowTo
[01:23] <Frogzoo> !citrix is <reply> For help configuring the Citrix ICA Client, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CitrixICAClientHowTo
[01:23] <charle97> ropechoborra, point the tracker to the same download location?
[01:23] <johlin> Where can I get a .deb package for Gaim 2 beta? I found a 64bit one but I don't have those fancy processors.
[01:23] <Ropechoborra> charle97: do i have to copie the torrents ?? (is an ntfs parition )
[01:24] <Ropechoborra> *patition
[01:24] <charle97> yea
[01:24] <charle97> i'd try that
[01:25] <Ropechoborra> Ty
[01:25] <charle97> did it work?
[01:25] <apokryphos> Frogzoo: factoid already exists
[01:25] <Ropechoborra> Im trying
[01:25] <apokryphos> Frogzoo: or rather, it was just added, thanks 8)
[01:25] <charle97> k, i'd like to know if it works
[01:26] <Ropechoborra> got to install the azureus first
[01:26] <Ropechoborra> ill let u know
[01:28] <Frogzoo> apokryphos: somehow running citrix just feels wrong...
[01:29] <apokryphos> Frogzoo: or rather, it was just added, thanks 8)
[01:30] <apokryphos> gah, sorry, ignore that
[01:30] <ompaul> Frogzoo, well you asked for it it is there :-)
[01:31] <johlin> what's the command, apt-something, to search my installed packages?
[01:32] <Flannel> johlin: apt-cache search [stuff] 
[01:32] <Flannel> oh, installed.
[01:32] <johlin> thanks
[01:32] <johlin> well, I guess the installed ones appear there too?
[01:34] <eebl> woah.
[01:36] <jrib> johlin: 'aptitude search ~i~npackage_name'        will list only installed packages... or: dpkg -l '*search_string*' | grep ^ii
[01:37] <martin> charle97 - you htere?
[01:38] <Petecakes> PPPoE hates me. I've entered in all the correct details and set it up correctly, eth0 is reported as being active, but still... No internet on Ubuntu.
[01:38] <Petecakes> Any ideas?
[01:39] <johlin> I want to install gaim 2 beta, but configure warns me that I have an old version installed. If I try to apt-get remove gaim, then the whole ubuntu-desktop would be removed. What do I do?
[01:39] <erUSUL> Petecakes: maybe is a problem with dns esolution only can you ping 66.102.9.99
[01:40] <erUSUL> ?
[01:40] <charle97> martin, i'm here
[01:40] <ompaul> Petecakes, are you using dhcp?
[01:40] <Frogzoo> Petecakes: I could suggest installing net-tools & setting 10/100 HD/FD
[01:40] <Petecakes> ompaul: yes.
[01:40] <martin> charle97 - hello mate - I was justy wondering if you had any joy with conky/amarok?
[01:41] <ompaul> Petecakes, try this >>sudo dhclient<< it is dirty but it might work - and if your using wireless you should tell people here :)
[01:41] <charle97> martin, works great
[01:41] <matusbraga> I am with a problem in aMule. It is closing alone! What I make?
[01:41] <Petecakes> ompaul: nope, no wireless.
[01:41] <martin> cool. do you fold charle97?
[01:41] <Sir`suicide> hi :)
[01:41] <charle97> martin, fold?
[01:42] <martin> charle97 folding@homr
[01:42] <stani> hi johlin - Which repositories do you have in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[01:42] <martin> *folding@home
[01:42] <charle97> no idea what that is
[01:42] <Frogzoo> Petecakes: because of autonegotiation issues, this is what I have to do in /etc/network/interfaces: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17248
[01:42] <idefix> why is there an always option when prompted for overwriting files but not a never option (in yafc)?
[01:42] <sonicco1> cool
[01:42] <martin> charle97 - ah, it's a distribute computing project, mapping the folding of proteins - very CPU intensive
[01:43] <johlin> stani: I have all the ubuntu ones plus some custom for automatix and wine, maybe xgl too
[01:43] <matusbraga> I am with a problem in aMule. It is closing alone! What I make?
[01:43] <ompaul> idefix, it is a case by case basis you do want to over write things at some stage
[01:43] <charle97> martin, oh .... no i don't .... is that another conky add inZ
[01:43] <charle97> ?
[01:43] <martin> charle97 - so they ship out segments to home users to run on their machines
[01:43] <stani> do you try to install gaim from a repostory or from a .deb file
[01:44] <martin> charle97 - only the same way amarok is - it's a whole different application, but I've got reporting working in conky - I just wondered if you wanted that too :p
[01:44] <charle97> martin, is it something like the seti screensavers?
[01:44] <idefix> ompaul I'd like yafc to put files there that aren't yet on the server.. the exact same files don't need to be replaced.. that's a waste of time
[01:44] <martin> charle97 - yeah, exactly
[01:44] <stani> I upgraded it fine without any warning. Probably with this repository: # seb128 repository (gaim - rhythmbox)
[01:44] <stani> deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/deb ./
[01:44] <Petecakes> Cheers guys, I'll go try that just now and let you know how it goes.
[01:44] <wildman> hello ppl, where do I set Gnome URL handlers in Ubuntu 6.06?
[01:44] <ompaul> idefix, set no clobber
[01:44] <martin> charle97 - uses your free cu cyctles, and there is a ubuntu team
[01:44] <martin> *cpu cycles
[01:44] <johlin> stani: thanks, I'll try that
[01:45] <eebl> Y'know what would be aweseome? A desktop manager based on FIFE.
[01:45] <charle97> martin, is there a website?
[01:45] <eebl> Who's with me!?
[01:45] <idefix> do I type that at the yafc prompt?
[01:45] <matusbraga> I am with a problem in aMule. It is closing alone! What I make?
[01:45] <nyxie> matusbraga: search on Synaptic for a package wxGTK2.6.3 and the latest aMule
[01:45] <martin> charle97 - yeah - http://folding.stanford.edu/
[01:45] <ompaul> idefix, no do it before you try the copy or do something like
[01:45] <matusbraga> nyxie, Only this?
[01:45] <ompaul> idefix, brain just went blank
[01:46] <nyxie> matusbraga: i hope so. :)
[01:46] <stani> If it doesn't work probably your sources.list is not compatible with dapper
[01:46] <idefix> ompaul, what exactly does this command do?
[01:46] <stani> For example: don't use the #deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org repositories
[01:46] <stani> they conflict too much with dapper
[01:46] <ompaul> idefix, let me get you something for that
[01:47] <matusbraga> nyxie, Where a find the package wxGTK2.6.3 and the last aMule. The my are the best of the Sinaptic.
[01:47] <ompaul> idefix,  http://www.devdaily.com/unix/edu/IntroToUnix/node102.shtml
[01:48] <rata> hi
[01:48] <[b] urk> hey
[01:48] <idefix> yafc still asks wheter or not to overwrite, I guess I'll just have to enter loads of n's
[01:49] <ompaul> idefix, - there is always the option of ls /dir/* >  wherever
[01:50] <johlin> stani: what's the package name?
[01:50] <idefix> ompaul, what do you mean?
[01:50] <ompaul> idefix, compare that with where you copy from and only copy the diff
[01:50] <idefix> oh I see
[01:50] <ompaul> idefix, please don't ask me to think too hard - my hayfever has just kicked in *hard*
[01:50] <idefix> what's the command for comparing?
[01:51] <ompaul> idefix, diff
[01:51] <matusbraga> nyxie, Where a find the package wxGTK2.6.3 and the last aMule. The my are the best of the Sinaptic.
[01:51] <ompaul> idefix, there is a better one just a min
[01:51] <idefix> ompaul veel beterschap gewenst
[01:52] <eebl> :D
[01:52] <nyxie> matusbraga: sorry. search "python-wxgtk2.6" on synaptic
[01:52] <idefix> ompaul (get well soon)
[01:53] <charle97> martin, i'm going to pass on the folding@home
[01:53] <londondave> so much for ueagle-atm driver, compiled it and installed and still the modem does not work?
[01:54] <martin> charle97 - nae worries, I just wanted to share more conky niftyness :)
[01:54] <nyxie> londondave: can you paste the output? paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:55] <auliya> has anyone had any luck installing bugzilla on ubuntu? (dapper server, base install)
[01:56] <rata> hi
[01:57] <rata> i am triying to install acroread in dapper for amd64, i added multiverse to de sources, but only appear acroread-debian-files, it does not appear acroread. How can i install it ?
[01:57] <ompaul> idefix, it is gone from my memory sorry - I cant even forumulate the question right for google
[01:57] <arooni> hey folks
[01:58] <arooni> im having some trouble with getting subversion up and running with eclipse
[01:59] <kbrooks> Hi.
[01:59] <kbrooks> I'm on a fresh installation of Ubuntu 6.06
[01:59] <kbrooks> (xbut I have my old one)
[01:59] <nyxie> rata: sudo apt-get install acroread acroread-debian-files?
[02:00] <foxiness> after i installed all gstreamer0.10-plugins-xxxx did i need to restart my ubuntu,it play quicktime movie "only sound" !
[02:01] <kbrooks> foxiness: what is your speaking language?
[02:01] <yabba> :D
[02:01] <londondave> nyxie: what output and do you want me to send it to you, I'm having to use xp to connect to the net
[02:02] <foxiness> kbrooks, shell script :)
[02:02] <idefix> ompaul, so I do diff -r ./ homedrive.home.nl/ ? something like that?
[02:02] <rata> nyxie, no... it says that is no candidate version for acroread
[02:02] <kbrooks> foxiness: speaking. what is the language that you speak best in?
[02:02] <idefix> ompaul with two *'s after the two /'s
[02:02] <wildman> hello ppl, where do I set Gnome URL handlers in Ubuntu 6.06?
[02:03] <wildman> when I click in an URL on Thunderbird, it's not open in FF1.5...
[02:03] <matusbraga> nyxie, and now...?I install the python-wxgtk2.6
[02:03] <jrib> foxiness: did you install w32codecs?
[02:04] <foxiness> jrib, yes
[02:04] <charle97> foxiness, how about libxine-extracodecs?
[02:04] <nyxie> rata> sorry. have you tried this? http://ardownload.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/7x/7.0.5/enu/AdobeReader_enu-7.0.5-1.i386.tar.gz
[02:04] <foxiness> jrib, with easyubuntu
[02:05] <cryptid> how do i run kopete.i just downloaded it.plz help?
[02:05] <nyxie> matusbraga: aMule stills closing without mesages?
[02:05] <no_gatez_fan> how can you so log on to do admin tasks?
[02:05] <jrib> no_gatez_fan: use sudo
[02:05] <kbrooks> no_gatez_fan: You don't.
[02:05] <jrib> !sudo > no_gatez_fan
[02:05] <londondave> nyxie: any help would do, with a lot of help from the guys here today I actually got ueagle-atm installed. I had to use the -f option to modprobe for the module to install. dsl light now comes on but pppd call ueagle-atm does not work
[02:05] <foxiness> charle97, its installed
[02:05] <jrib> foxiness: can you tell me what 'dpkg -L w32codecs' says?  What directory did they get put in?
[02:06] <nyxie> londondave> ok.. hm
[02:06] <fresch> what's the safe way to remove all files in a dir, including dot-files?
[02:06] <rata> nyxie, yes, i am triying, but it goes slow :). But i found a post saying someone installed and correctly work in dapper for 64bit, but it does not say if he installed form a package or download it
[02:06] <matusbraga> nyxie, I go to sleep and when agreement it is closed.
[02:06] <jrib> fresch: not sure what you mean by "a safe way", but 'rm -r /path/to/dir' will do it
[02:07] <TheDevil> hello!
[02:07] <cwillu> if I've created a custom kernel, is it possible to add the module that gives me the boot-splash screens without recompiling the thing?
[02:07] <londondave> nyxie: i also removed the old eagle-usb modules as suggested in the install guide I have
[02:07] <TheDevil> can someone tell me how to uhhh open up SSH on an ubuntu computer so that i may remote?
[02:07] <TheDevil> with putty?
[02:07] <cwillu> TheDevil: install openssh
[02:08] <Crowe> Hello again.
[02:08] <foxiness> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17249 this the output of "dpkg -L w32codecs"
[02:08] <TheDevil> cool! is that it? is the daemon up and running just like that?
[02:08] <cwillu> TheDevil: pretty much, might want to peek at the conf file in etc, but I believe it Just Works
[02:08] <TheDevil> many thanks! :D
[02:08] <fresch> jrib, rm -rf /path/to/dir will remove 'dir'... i just want to remove ALL files in 'dir' including dot-files, without it trying to delete '.' and '..' as well. so i can't use rm -rf /path/to/dir.*
[02:08] <Crowe> I solved one problem and caused another. My sound worked, and now it doesn't. Where do I start?
[02:09] <kbrooks> Crowe: What did you do?
[02:09] <rata> nyxie, here is the problem:
[02:09] <no_gatez_fan> ok, then how you acess say the disk manager with sudo privledges?
[02:09] <rata> nyxie, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=acroread&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all :)
[02:09] <Crowe> I tried installing a driver for my audio
[02:09] <[b] urk> fresch, cant you just delete the whole dir and make a new one?
[02:09] <kbrooks> no_gatez_fan: system > admin > disks
[02:10] <arooni-linux> hey folks, i need to write a script that will launch eclipse.... subversion telles me it should be like this (export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib:. ./eclipse), but i have 1) no idea how to 'make this script' 2) how can i easily launch this sciprt and put it on my panel?
[02:10] <arooni-linux> your opinions would be great
[02:10] <matusbraga> nyxie, I go to sleep and when get up it is closed.
[02:10] <fresch> [b] urk, seems i have to do just that... however i was going to put this in .bash_logout, so that when that user logs out, all files in his home dir are deleted
[02:10] <no_gatez_fan> u cant change / create without sudo, so what cli please
[02:10] <kbrooks> no_gatez_fan: what?
[02:11] <kbrooks> no_gatez_fan: open the application up please
[02:11] <no_gatez_fan> i did
[02:11] <Crowe> And now in sound there is no default sound card
[02:11] <kbrooks> no_gatez_fan: just try it
[02:11] <rata> nyxie, do you know how can i tell apt to download the source of a package for a different architecture anyway ?
[02:11] <nyxie> matusbraga, now you've installed that new libraries, you've to try let aMule on, and see what happends.
[02:12] <no_gatez_fan> wont let me create a partition on a drive
[02:12] <nyxie> rata> i think there's no acroread 64bits version for dapper
[02:12] <[b] urk> fresch, rm -fr /dir                                                                  mkdir dir
[02:12] <nyxie> rata> 32bit will work
[02:12] <ryanakca> ok, I made a html table... is there a way to make it display ascii? kindof like the one above this: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/tables.html#h-11.2.1
[02:12] <jrib> fresch: how about: rm -r /path/to/dir/* /path/to/dir/.*      if you use zsh, it won't count . and .., if you use bash I /think/ it complains but doesn't delete
[02:12] <nyxie> londondave> im searching about your issue, sorry.
[02:13] <no_gatez_fan> it sees the disk(s), but the create button is greyed out
[02:13] <rata> nyxie, yes, but i try to install a .deb, but it says that there is for a different architecture
[02:13] <matusbraga> nyxie, what new libraries?
[02:13] <londondave> nyxie no probs I was hoping you were a developer of the package-lol, thanks for any help at -this as got personal now :)
[02:13] <kbrooks> no_gatez_fan: weird
[02:13] <arooni-linux> folks... so how do i create a shells script?
[02:14] <cwillu> no_gatez_fan: did it ask you for a password?
[02:14] <Crowe> Any tips on reverting my sound driver from my failed attempt to what ubuntu detected from the start?
[02:14] <no_gatez_fan> yes it did
[02:14] <TheDevil> hello i'm back!
[02:14] <TheDevil> i left too early.
[02:14] <no_gatez_fan> i put in password
[02:14] <cwillu> he's back
[02:14] <jrib> arooni-linux: google for advanced bash shell scripting guide, it's probably the best one I've seen
[02:14] <rata> nyxie, how can i force it ? or can i download the source and re-compile it ?. I was thinking in unpack the .deb with ar, change the control? file, an re-pack it....
[02:14] <arooni-linux> jrib: well i know the contents of the script, i just have no idea how to save as a script or run it
[02:14] <TheDevil> there's the openssh-client and server are they synonymous to the VNC viewer and server?
[02:15] <cwillu> TheDevil: client is probably already installed (it's like putty), server is what you want
[02:15] <idefix> can anyone explain this output to me please? diff ../test1 ./
[02:15] <idefix> Only in ../test1: bestand1
[02:15] <idefix> Only in ./: bestand2
[02:15] <idefix> Only in ../test1: test2
[02:15] <trimona> a
[02:15] <TheDevil> ahh ok coolies! kudos to you CWILLU!
[02:15] <trimona> tva koe irc e
[02:15] <cwillu> woohoo, I have kudo's :p
[02:15] <jrib> arooni-linux: a script is just a text file with the proper structure, and you just run it by making it executable and entering the path to it (using ./blah if it is in your current directory)
[02:15] <trimona> kuf e toq chat?
[02:15] <trimona> #plovdiv
[02:15] <cwillu> idefix: what were you doing?
[02:16] <no_gatez_fan> any ideas?
[02:16] <jrib> foxiness: hmm not sure why that doesn't work, you could try using totem-xine or xine-ui or gxine or mplayer instead
[02:16] <idefix> trying to compair contents of the dirs /test1 and /test2
[02:16] <idefix> cwillu
[02:16] <cwillu> idefix: test1 and ./ or test1 and test2?
[02:16] <idefix> well I was in test2
[02:16] <cwillu> i.e., are you in test2?
[02:17] <cwillu> okay
[02:17] <kbrooks> !vmware
[02:17] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[02:17] <idefix> should I go back a dir?
[02:17] <cwillu> well, bestand1 and test2 only existed in test1, and bestand2 only existed in test2
[02:17] <idefix> cwillu ehm, but test2 is a dir it's not in test1
[02:17] <cwillu> idefix: are you sure?
[02:18] <Gorlist> ive got a Logitech Momo Forcefeed back steering wheel, but I find though it works ingame I can't enable FF
[02:18] <cwillu> the tool seems to think otherwise :)
[02:18] <Gorlist> ??
[02:18] <idefix> no
[02:18] <idefix> you're right
[02:19] <idefix> oh I see, I thought the command  cp bestand1 ./test2 copies the file bestand 1 to the dir test2 but it renames the file!
[02:19] <matusbraga> nyxie, what new libraries?
[02:19] <idefix> cwillu, or?
[02:19] <max_nooby_noob> Hi guys! When an instruction says to run, say,  /usr/X11R6/bin/aticonfig --initial in terminal, do I simply enter: sudo  /usr/X11R6/bin/aticonfig --initial ? (without the question mark)
[02:19] <arooni-linux> folks so i created a script file and then i ran 'sudo ./sciprt_file' and i got an error that ./script_file is not found... ideas?
[02:19] <cwillu> idefix: copies actually;  put a / at the end if you want to make sure it goes to a directory (and it'll complain if it doesn't exist then)
[02:20] <[b] urk> max_nooby_noob, yes
[02:20] <nyxie> rata> it's a posibility.. i really can't help you with that, but: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/acroread
[02:20] <nyxie> matusbraga: the libraries you've already installed.
[02:20] <cwillu> idefix: where is test2/ in relation to test1/
[02:20] <cwillu> ?
[02:20] <beerfan> Any window manager experts around? How would I change the theme for kde apps in gnome?
[02:20] <max_nooby_noob> burk, when I do it says No such file or directory
[02:20] <arooni-linux> does anyone know why my script thing wont work?
[02:21] <idefix> in the same parent directory
[02:21] <arooni-linux> yes
[02:21] <[b] urk> max_nooby_noob, then there is no such file or directory
[02:21] <arooni-linux> i am in the directory of the sciprt ifle
[02:21] <Cyberai> !sound
[02:21] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:21] <[b] urk> max_nooby_noob, if you're following a tutorial make sure you have done everything right
[02:22] <foxiness> jrib, xine open this " http://media.rubyonrails.org/video/rails_take2_with_sound.mov " but it the backgrund "black" and it must be "white"
[02:22] <arooni-linux> any ideas on my script issue ? :P ...
[02:22] <Cyberai> ok, someone wanna clue me in here? I am trying to follow ubotu's directions about the multimedia system selector, but it's not there?
[02:22] <bigfoot1> how do i find out the basic specs of my sound card and my video card?
[02:22] <cwillu> idefix: the you probably wanted ../test2/ instead of ./test2/
[02:22] <cwillu> (. is current directory, .. is parent)
[02:22] <max_nooby_noob> the thing is I followed the direction to a "t" but when I get to this step, I get that error message: # Launch the Terminal Application/Window and navigate to the ATI Proprietary Linux driver download.
[02:22] <max_nooby_noob> # Enter the command sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.26.18-i386.run to launch the 32bit version of the ATI Proprietary Linux driver installer
[02:22] <bigfoot1> (coz i'm selling my computer and someone asked for that info)
[02:23] <wildman> bigfoot1: lspci
[02:23] <wildman> bigfoot1: to 1st know which they are, then google for what you find
[02:23] <max_nooby_noob> sorry, wrong instruction. it's this: # Click View HTML Release Note for last minute driver information, or Exit to close the ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Installer.
[02:23] <max_nooby_noob> # Launch the Terminal Application/Window and run /usr/X11R6/bin/aticonfig --initial to configure the driver.
[02:23] <cwillu> arooni-linux: what are you trying to do?
[02:23] <bigfoot1> wildman: thansk
[02:23] <arooni-linux> cwillu: i'm trying to to run this script http://subclipse.tigris.org/faq.html#get-javahl
[02:24] <jrib> foxiness: what version quicktime does it use?
[02:24] <arooni-linux> cwillu: to get eclipse to pick up the javahl libraries which i've already installed thru synaptic
[02:24] <Crowe> My sound worked, I messed around with it, now my sound device isn't showing up. Any idea why?
[02:24] <bigfoot1> so which line is about sound card? is it the line that has "0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 11)"
[02:24] <foxiness> jrib, how could i know that ?
[02:24] <idefix> cwillu ok, but normally speaking the command diff should work now.. thx I'm ok for now
[02:24] <cwillu> arooni-linux: what does it say when you run it without sudo?
[02:24] <cwillu> idefix: okay
[02:25] <arooni-linux> cwillu: Permission Denied.. then it complains that sudo ./startup : command not found (running with sudo)
[02:25] <jrib> foxiness: the website you got it from maybe
[02:25] <bigfoot1> is "audio controller" the same as "sound card"?
[02:25] <foxiness> jrib, no info on this page http://www.rubyonrails.org/screencasts
[02:26] <cwillu> arooni-linux: can you paste me the url of the instructions you're following?
[02:26] <arooni-linux> cwillu: sure: http://subclipse.tigris.org/faq.html#get-javahl
[02:26] <foxiness> jrib, i will ask about it on #rubyonrails and see who can get it play on ubuntu/linux
[02:26] <londondave> nyxie: also when I rebooted into windows linux would not shutdown cleanly as some sort of bluetooth process hanged the reboot
[02:26] <jrib> foxiness: k
[02:26] <monomaniacpat> How can I gind out what the packages that are installed by ubuntu-desktop if I already have it installed?
[02:26] <monomaniacpat> *find
[02:26] <arooni-linux> cwillu: under the heading 'i think have a valida javaHL library installed but subclipse says that it is not found'
[02:27] <jrib> monomaniacpat: apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop
[02:27] <bigfoot1> wildman: hello?
[02:27] <Ropechoborra> how do i see current running proceses?
[02:28] <cwillu> arooni-linux: what is startup?
[02:28] <monomaniacpat> jrib: thanks, is there a way to reinstall all those?
[02:28] <jrib> Ropechoborra: system > administration > system monitor
[02:28] <jrib> monomaniacpat: why?
[02:28] <arooni-linux> cwillu: i'm looking here in /usr/local/lib, and i'm not finding the javahl libraries; startup was just me copying word for word their two alternate scripts you see lsited
[02:28] <arooni-linux> listed
[02:28] <monomaniacpat> jrib: because I have installed kubuntu and it has overwritten some stuff I would like back.
[02:28] <londondave> Ropechoborra: in a terminal ps ax or use the syatem tool kstysemguard
[02:28] <Toma-> londondave: modem working?
[02:28] <cwillu> arooni-linux: sudo updatedb
[02:29] <Ropechoborra> Thanks
[02:29] <cwillu> arooni-linux: then locate javahl
[02:29] <arooni-linux> cwillu: i have no idea where javahl would be
[02:29] <jrib> monomaniacpat: what kind of stuff?  You can reinstall but it may or may not help you, aptitude reinstall package_name is the command
[02:29] <arooni-linux> cwillu: i used synaptic to install it
[02:30] <londondave> Hi Toma: installed the ueagle-atm driver but had to force the module with -f to modprobe as it complained about kernel stuff. Did pppd call ueagle-atm and nothing, the dsl comes on though
[02:30] <idefix> hmm what's the command again for displaying the dir you're in now?
[02:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> pwd
[02:30] <monomaniacpat> jrib: I want to give it a go - there isn't a way to install the whole list at once?
[02:30] <bigfoot1> help help help
[02:30] <Toma-> londondave: what kernel stuff?
[02:30] <bigfoot1> how do i find out the basic specs of my sound card and my video card?
[02:30] <londondave> Toma: the dsl light came on as solid green but no dsl connection with ifconfig
[02:30] <monomaniacpat> jrib: automatically, so I don't have to c+p
[02:30] <Toma-> BiGcaT: specs? lspci -vv
[02:31] <jrib> monomaniacpat: most of those are meta packages themselves so all they do is pull in other packages
[02:31] <Toma-> londondave: damn :/
[02:31] <Ropechoborra> I got the Azureus advices stucked in my desktop... (the little signs that appears...) and the buttom hide dont works.. how do i close it ?
[02:31] <arooni-linux> cwillu: ideas?
[02:31] <wildman> bigfoot1: sorry, was checkin other things. yes, audio controller should be
[02:32] <arooni-linux> anyone know how to get subclipse working on ubuntu?  the secret is in the javahl libraries and locating them once installed thru synaptic (something im failing at here)
[02:32] <jrib> monomaniacpat: to answer your question, you can do something like aptitude reinstall $(command that returns the list here)
[02:32] <monomaniacpat> jrib: OK
[02:32] <Toma-> Ropechoborra: i got that too. i think azureus is bugged. open a terminal and un 'ps aux' and look for the line with 'java' at the start. run 'kill -KILL <PID of the java line>
[02:32] <cwillu> arooni-linux:  did you do the updatedb?
[02:32] <wildman> bigfoot1: for example, I get: 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)
[02:32] <arooni-linux> cwillu: well it looks like its waiting for text input from me, and i dont know what to feed it
[02:33] <wildman> bigfoot1: and, 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  (rev a1)
[02:33] <londondave> Toma: it complained about version symbols etc but the module did load when forced. Now the log file says 'connect 0.38 unknown device' 0.38 are the decimal vpi/vci numbers
[02:33] <cwillu> arooni-linux: no, you'll notice you're cpu is going crazy;  once it's done, 'locate javahl'
[02:33] <tuxedup> has anyone had any uccess getting a wireless device that uses the rt2500 driver to connect using wpa?  Im at a loss as to how to achieve this
[02:33] <wildman> bigfoot1: check for similar ones on your lspci output
[02:33] <Toma-> londondave: i know nothing aboput ppp and modems and stuff :D ive got a router
[02:33] <arooni-linux> cwillu: how do i view the 'task maanager' of ubuntu
[02:34] <cwillu> arooni-linux:  (updatedb runs everynight automatically so that locate usually works, but if you just installed it, it won't be there yet)
[02:34] <arooni-linux> ahh
[02:34] <arooni-linux> i see
[02:34] <londondave> I wish I knew how to know for sure if my router/ network card were ok, tiscli say that are checking the signal strength with BT
[02:35] <arooni-linux> cwillu: ok so i ran 'locate javahl' and i think its here: /var/cache/apt/archives/libsvn-javahl_1.3.1-3ubuntu1_i386.deb
[02:35] <arooni-linux> cwillu: but i dont know what to do now
[02:35] <cwillu> arooni-linux: did any other files show up?
[02:35] <arooni-linux> cwillu: oh yah a bunch
[02:35] <arooni-linux> cwillu: i just didnt want to paste them all in and disrupt the channel
[02:35] <cwillu> arooni-linux: looking for one that ends in .so
[02:35] <Ropechoborra> Toma-:  Thank you... should we post this bug some where?
[02:36] <cwillu> arooni-linux: also, see:
[02:36] <cwillu> !pastebin
[02:36] <cwillu> :)
[02:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:36] <Toma-> Ropechoborra: launchpad probably
[02:36] <Crowe> Can anyone tell me how to get my sound card to show up? It worked until I tried to install a new driver. Now there is no sound and under Sound it says there is no default sound card.
[02:36] <Frogzoo> londondave: can you ping your router?
[02:36] <softnet_> hello all
[02:37] <londondave> Frogzoo: the router daignostics say that eth0 connection is fine
[02:37] <arooni-linux> cwillu: full paste results: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17250
[02:37] <Ropechoborra> If i close a program (like the Gaim) the proces is killed too?
[02:37] <Frogzoo> londondave: if you can ping the router, that's 50% of the link covered
[02:38] <beerfan> Any window manager experts around? How would I change the theme for kde apps in gnome?
[02:38] <Toma-> Ropechoborra: no...
[02:38] <londondave> Ropechoborra: some apps go to the system tray unless you use file/close, they normally warn you about that
[02:38] <Toma-> Ropechoborra: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/azureus (if you want to file a bug
[02:38] <Toma-> )
[02:39] <londondave> Frogzoo: i'll try that now in xp, brb
[02:39] <kristian> What is AMDs slagon?
[02:39] <Ropechoborra> But.. for example, i closed gaim (and the systray icon wasnt enabled) is there an easy way to compleatly close it?
[02:40] <arooni-linux> cwillu: did you get a chance to look at my pastie? whats my next move ? :P
[02:40] <cwillu> arooni-linux: try this:  export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/jni:. ./eclipse
[02:41] <titicaca> hi
[02:41] <cwillu> arooni-linux: which deb did you use?
[02:41] <arooni-linux> cwillu: i'm sorry i dont follow (im a noob in linux and in eclipse)
[02:42] <cwillu> which didn't you follow?
[02:42] <arooni-linux> which 'what' didnt i follow
[02:42] <cwillu> you didn't understand something I said.  which line didn't you understand?
[02:43] <cwillu> the export or the which deb?
[02:43] <arooni-linux> cwillu: you asked me 'which deb did you use'
[02:43] <Ropechoborra> Tom-: Thanks for the link.. should that work fine?
[02:43] <cwillu> ddi you use the debian packages or the breezy package?
[02:44] <arooni-linux> cwillu: i just installed ubuntu dapper today
[02:44] <arooni-linux> cwillu: and i got javahl thru synaptic
[02:44] <fresch> how can i run commands when users logout from a gdm session?
[02:44] <cwillu> arooni-linux: didn't add anything to sources.list or anything?
[02:44] <arooni-linux> cwillu: oh no, just whatever came with it
[02:44] <cwillu> okay
[02:44] <kristian> anyone know what's amds slagon?
[02:44] <cwillu> have you run that export line yet?
[02:45] <kristian>  Power is everything
[02:45] <kristian>   The smarter choice
[02:45] <kristian>   AMD Inside
[02:45] <cwillu> kristian: that's a question that google would be better for
[02:45] <arooni-linux> cwillu: im still at the same point... i.e. just running it and i get 'permission denied' and then running 'sudo ./startup' i get command not found
[02:46] <cwillu> the export line didn't work?
[02:46] <arooni-linux> cwillu: well should i type that into my terminal?
[02:46] <cwillu> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/jni:. ./eclipse
[02:46] <arooni-linux> cwillu: i was just putting that inside the startup
[02:46] <cwillu> yes.  yes you should :)
[02:46] <arooni-linux> ahh
[02:46] <arooni-linux> :P
[02:47] <arooni-linux> bash: export: `./radrails': not a valid identifier   (radrails is eclipse but for rails development)
[02:48] <bigfoot1> wildman: can i pm you?
[02:48] <cwillu> did it used to work?
[02:48] <Ropechoborra> I think i got bit torrent installed.. how do i find it ?
[02:49] <cwillu> or did you have something in startup that was needed to make it work before?
[02:49] <arooni-linux> cwillu: well if you mean that export statement, i never tried that before, if you mean running radrails it works but i cant get the subclipse working (because it needs javahl), and if you mean getting the subclipse javahl stuff working, never has worked yet
[02:49] <monomaniacpat> can you tell me how to remove all new lines and replace with a space in openoffice2?
[02:49] <finalbeta> Ropechoborra, you can find installed packages like this: dpkg --search torrent
[02:50] <medeshago> i need help. my audio doesn't work, and i don't mean mp3's doesn't work, i mean everything. Ogg doesn't sound, ubuntu doesn't sound at the start. The only thing i can hear is something like static
[02:50] <kristian> cwillu, google dosn't know :P
[02:50] <cwillu> arooni-linux: did eclipse launch this time?
[02:50] <cwillu> kristian: try checking amd's site
[02:50] <cwillu> kristian: if it doesn't have it, then by definition they don't have one :)
[02:51] <arooni-linux> cwillu: well it will launch if i double click it.. that export statement wont make in launch i dont think so
[02:51] <cwillu> ?
[02:51] <arooni-linux> cwillu: haha
[02:51] <wildman> bigfoot1: sure
[02:51] <medeshago> i need help. my audio doesn't work, and i don't mean mp3's doesn't work, i mean everything. Ogg doesn't sound, ubuntu doesn't sound at the start. The only thing i can hear is something like static
[02:51] <arooni-linux> cwillu: i could always launch radrails (again just eclipse)
[02:51] <cwillu> medeshago: how old is the sound card?
[02:51] <arooni-linux> cwillu: the issue was getting the javahl svn support going
[02:52] <monomaniacpat>  can you tell me how to remove all new lines and replace with a space in openoffice2?
[02:52] <medeshago> mmm, like 4 years old
[02:52] <cwillu> "well it will launch if i double click it.. that export statement wont make in launch i dont think so"
[02:52] <londondave> If my router is at 10.0.0.2 as default gateway and ip address is 10.0.0.10 should I be able to ping one of those numbers?
[02:52] <arooni-linux> cwillu: well i agree that is not semantically clear, but i havent slepped for 24 hours
[02:52] <cwillu> arooni-linux: I have no idea what it was saying... :p
[02:52] <fyrestrtr> londondave: yes
[02:53] <bigfoot1> Tom39Away: are you toma?
[02:53] <arooni-linux> cwillu: so what should i try next?
[02:53] <arooni-linux> :s/slepped/slept
[02:53] <arooni-linux> man i'm tired
[02:53] <arooni-linux> but i want to solve this before i got to sleep!
[02:53] <medeshago> help me, please
[02:53] <cwillu> so did or didn't the export LD_... line launch eclipse in some fashion?
[02:53] <arooni-linux> did not
[02:54] <arooni-linux> got a ./eclipse not a valid identifier error
[02:54] <londondave> fyrestrtr: if i try to ping 10.0.0.2 it complains about an illegal instruction-10.0.0.10 gives nothing. ipconfig /all shows that I actually have a dhcp lease but the dsl just keeps flashing
[02:54] <oskude> medeshago, type "lspci" in the terminal and see if you can find your sound card there, or post the output to pastebin or so...
[02:54] <fyrestrtr> londondave: well, certainly your dsl address is not going to be 10.0.0.x because that address is reserved for local networks.
[02:55] <medeshago> yes linuxforums > /dev/dsp
[02:55] <medeshago> fak
[02:55] <medeshago> 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[02:55] <fyrestrtr> londondave: you having a dsl lease and the "dsl flashing" are really not related at all.
[02:55] <cwillu> arooni-linux: does it launch if you just type 'eclipse' from the terminal?
[02:55] <fyrestrtr> londondave: your router/gateway is giving you your ip addresses -- so that is your dhcp terminal.
[02:55] <londondave> fyrestrtr: this router was working fine for over a year, it just stopped working a few days ago, does it sound like it's failed?
[02:56] <arooni-linux> cwillu: no it does not
[02:56] <oskude> medeshago, does "lsmod | grep snd" output many lines ?
[02:56] <fyrestrtr> londondave: could be, or your isp did something and now your router needs to be updated, etc. what kind is it?
[02:56] <Ropechoborra> finalbeta: i found bittorrent, and it is installed, but donno how to exec it :(
[02:57] <medeshago> oskude: yes
[02:57] <oskude> medeshago, do you have more than one sound card/chip in the machine ?
[02:57] <fyrestrtr> Ropechoborra: from gnome, just double click a .torrent file.
[02:57] <londondave> safecom-it worked fine-I have contacted tiscali and got very anoyed at their attitude, they claim they are checking with BT-the phone company
[02:57] <medeshago> oskude. no, only one.
[02:57] <cwillu> arooni-linux: errors?
[02:57] <fyrestrtr> londondave: are you on the same network right now?
[02:58] <arooni-linux> cwillu: bash: radrails: command now found
[02:58] <arooni-linux> cwillu: i just ran 'radrails' on command prompt
[02:58] <londondave> fyrestrtr: which is why I am trying like a madman to get the sagem moden working under linux
[02:58] <oskude> medeshago, open the volume control panel (right click on the speaker icon in taskbar) and see if its muted, or low volume...
[02:58] <londondave> fyrestrtr: yes their usb modem works fine
[02:58] <cwillu> arooni-linux: did it do the same thing when you just ran eclipse from the prompt?
[02:59] <londondave> fyrestrtr: in xp but not ubuntu dapper
[02:59] <fyrestrtr> londondave: well, then it sounds like a problem with the router then.
[02:59] <freezey> in order to backup MYSql databases should i use a tool or is there another method without using a tool for it?
[02:59] <arooni-linux> cwillu: may i should have been more clear.... there is only radrails.  i used the example of eclipse because i thought no one would know about radrails in here
[02:59] <fyrestrtr> londondave: for now, just use internet sharing from xp.
[02:59] <fyrestrtr> it will turn your xp computer into a dhcp server and a router.
[02:59] <medeshago> oskude: it ain't muted, and the sound is at the top
[02:59] <fyrestrtr> freezey: what's wrong with the tools?
[02:59] <oskude> medeshago, hmm, do you have /dev/dsp ?
[02:59] <Jack1>  hi i hvae probs with a printer in  dapper, all done what is said there it still doesnt work...http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/.
[03:00] <Jack1> any idea?
[03:00] <freezey> fyrestrtr: nothin is wrong with the tools would just rather run strait up commands and backup the databases to a dir
[03:00] <londondave> fyrestrtr: whats that, what does the internet sharing do I cannot do with the usb modem-just a bit confused?
[03:00] <monomaniacpat> can you tell me how to remove all new lines and replace with a space in openoffice2?
[03:00] <cwillu> arooni-linux: so can I assume that you've been substituting rad-rails whenever neccessary?  :)
[03:00] <Jack1> from the forums u dont get smarter its a laserjet hp 1020
[03:00] <oskude> medeshago, and look that you have the right device in the volume control panel (file -> change device)
[03:00] <monomaniacpat> !openoffice
[03:00] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org".
[03:01] <arooni-linux> cwillu: yes, apologies there i was just trying to make my problem easier to understand
[03:01] <softnet_> !reconfigure
[03:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about reconfigure
[03:01] <monomaniacpat> is there an open office channel? I've tried #openoffice
[03:01] <arooni-linux> cwillu: but i'm sure you dont have any problem following anyway
[03:01] <softnet_> how do i reconfigure a package?
[03:01] <medeshago> oskude: no, i don't
[03:01] <cwillu> arooni-linux: don't do that :)  now I have to check if rad-rails does anything weird with the startup :)
[03:01] <fyrestrtr> londondave: internet connection sharing (ICS) is a feature in windows xp that turns your windows xp machine into a "server" with router+gateway+dhcp services.
[03:01] <arooni-linux> cwillu: i'm sorry buddy, if i had a little more sleep maybe i wouldnt have done something that stupid
[03:01] <londondave> fyrestrtr: I sort of understand that bit but why would I do it?
[03:02] <cwillu> arooni-linux: can you pastebin me the output of 'locate eclipse'?  eclipse-based editors generally still have an eclipse launcher hanging around somewhere, they just may not have the jdt installed
[03:02] <arooni-linux> cwillu: sure
[03:02] <arooni-linux> brb
[03:02] <softnet_> i.e: i want to change something in the xorg.conf file, but i'd rather do it with reconfiguring the package than editing by hand. i tried dpkg --configure xserver-xorg but it doesnt work.?
[03:02] <fyrestrtr> londondave: so you can use the usb modem and have connectivity on your ubuntu machine, till you replace or fix the router.
[03:02] <cwillu> thx
[03:02] <fyrestrtr> freezey: what tools have you used?
[03:02] <oskude> medeshago, ok. try "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart"
[03:02] <concept10> arooni-linux, are you the same guy from the rails channel?
[03:02] <freezey> fyrestrtr: none yet i haven
[03:02] <freezey> fyrestrtr: none yet i haven't used any tools i just now was thinking shit i gotta back these up
[03:02] <oskude> medeshago, and look if it says "* Setting up ALSA... [ ok ] "
[03:02] <fyrestrtr> freezey: don't understand your problem then, why don't you want to use the tools?
[03:02] <arooni-linux> concept10: indeed
[03:03] <freezey> fyrestrtr: i would rather not use tools
[03:03] <arooni-linux> cwillu: there was so much output that it overflowed the terminal... how do i get it all?
[03:03] <concept10> arooni, you need help?
[03:03] <fyrestrtr> freezey: do you even know what tools you are talking about?
[03:03] <freezey> fyrestrtr: yeah i am lookin at options
[03:03] <medeshago>  * Shutting down ALSA...                                                 [ ok ] 
[03:03] <medeshago>  * Setting up ALSA...                                                    [ ok ] 
[03:03] <londondave> fyrestrtr: that sound cool, but I'm dual booting from a laptop
[03:03] <fyrestrtr> freezey: like what?
[03:04] <fyrestrtr> londondave: ...oh, I guess that won't work for you then.
[03:04] <oskude> medeshago, look if you now have /dev/dsp
[03:04] <arooni-linux> concept10: im having trouble getting radrails working on dapper (well specifically it runs, but i cant connect to a svn respository thats on disk at /mnt/repository, because i need javahl or something)
[03:04] <freezey> fyrestrtr: mysql backup....swordsky software - sql auto backup...mysql hot copy
[03:04] <medeshago> oskude, no i don't
[03:04] <londondave> fyrestrtr: i thought I had got lucky there, pity the ueagle-atm module refuses to work
[03:04] <zOap> is there a nice free ram app in the repository?
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Jack1: Just read throught that, were there any errors or where did it not work?
[03:04] <oskude> medeshago, hmm... strange
[03:05] <concept10> arooni, let me check that package. I have only used radrails on remote svn repos
[03:05] <cidco> gf
[03:05] <concept10> arooni-linux, ^^
[03:05] <medeshago> oskude, the only thing i hear is static all the time
[03:05] <oskude> medeshago, yeah, cause the /dev/dsp device doesnt exist...
[03:05] <arooni-linux> cwillu: take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17252 (results of running locate eclipse)
[03:06] <cwillu> looking
[03:06] <arooni-linux> concept10: well i appreciate that
[03:06] <concept10> arooni-linux, you mean this package: libsvn-javahl - java bindings for Subversion (aka. svn)
[03:06] <arooni-linux> concept10: i like developing on linux a lot
[03:06] <arooni-linux> concept10: sure im a total noob so i dont really know what i mean
[03:06] <cwillu> arooni-linux: pastebin:  ls /home/oem/Desktop/radrails/
[03:06] <oskude> medeshago, sec ill try to find the right module for your soundchip
[03:07] <pjay_> hey peeps, trying to get x-window-system-dev but dependency lists eventualy lead me to conflicting files so i get stuck
[03:08] <arooni-linux> cwillu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17253
[03:08] <concept10> arooni-linux, do you have that package?/
[03:08] <arooni-linux> concept10: how do i know ? :P
[03:09] <concept10> arooni-linux, dpkg -l | grep libsvn-javahl
[03:09] <samu2> hi, has anyone installed ubuntu to an external USB HD?
[03:09] <arooni-linux> concept10: said command not found
[03:10] <arooni-linux> concept10: do i need to run that in a specific directory?
[03:10] <arooni-linux> hang on
[03:10] <arooni-linux> i ran it again
[03:10] <pum`> are bluetooth <--> mobilephone (modemfunction) is well supported on ubuntu ?
[03:10] <concept10> arooni-linux, no, you cant run dpkg?
[03:10] <pjay_> ne ideas on getting x-window-system-dev to work
[03:10] <arooni-linux> concept10: ii  libsvn-javahl                          1.3.1-3ubuntu1                        java binding
[03:10] <arooni-linux> concept10: i got that result back
[03:11] <concept10> arooni-linux, ii means installed
[03:11] <arooni-linux> ok ..
[03:11] <oskude> hmm, where does ubuntu have the alsa config ? (the module alias stuff)
[03:11] <arooni-linux> concept10: i think this is the real issue: http://subclipse.tigris.org/faq.html#get-javahl
[03:11] <londondave> if i compile with the latest stable kernel tree will it mess up my system, it's difficult to know what to make sure gets compiled as modules?
[03:12] <arooni-linux> i.e. it is installeed but not found
[03:12] <cwillu> oh, who did that....  _WHY_ is the type-as-you-go searching searching for anything other than either the process name or the currently sorted column!!?? $#@%@$#%
[03:12] <cwillu> (in process-manager)
[03:12] <Ropechoborra> Some cool music player like winamp?
[03:12] <oskude> medeshago, btw does this give any text output "lsmod | grep snd-via82xx" ?
[03:12] <cwillu> ubotu, why?
[03:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about why?
[03:13] <cwillu> :(
[03:13] <medeshago> oskude, no text
[03:13] <arooni> concept10: any ideas?
[03:14] <concept10> arooni, you might need more libraries such as libsvn0 and libsvn0-dev
[03:14] <monomaniacpat> what's the command for apt-get to reinstall?
[03:14] <oskude> medeshago, hmm, just a wild quess, try "sudo modprobe snd-via82xx", and tell me what it says
[03:14] <oskude> Ropechoborra, xmms ~= winamp
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra: Someone mentioned one named juicer something, sorry I was not paying closer attention
[03:14] <arooni-linux> concept10: how would i get those
[03:14] <medeshago> oskude, nothing
[03:14] <oskude> medeshago, look if you have /dev/dsp
[03:14] <concept10> arooni, you check to see if those are installed using grep as before => dpkg -l | grep libsvn
[03:14] <Ropechoborra> sound juicer??
[03:15] <pjay_> E: Couldn't find package x-window-system-dev any ideas?
[03:15] <zOap> I need to add more global keyboard shortcuts, but I can't seem to add new ones in the keyboard shortcut in admin panel. Where can I add more?
[03:15] <arooni-linux> well the libsvn0-dev definitely isnt
[03:15] <medeshago> oskude, yes
[03:15] <oskude> medeshago, does sound work ?
[03:15] <arooni-linux> concept10: as it currently isnt on the system
[03:15] <monomaniacpat> what's the command for apt-get to reinstall?
[03:16] <medeshago> oskude, no
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra:  I just typed juicer in synaptic and found it
[03:16] <oskude> medeshago, hmm...
[03:18] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow: but thats a cd ripper i mean a player.. do you know a good one?
[03:18] <arooni-linux> concept10: si installed the svb0-dev pacakge
[03:18] <arooni-linux> and now i have both versions
[03:18] <arooni-linux> concept10: what should  i do next
[03:18] <oskude> medeshago, maybe try "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart" again...
[03:18] <concept10> arooni-linux, try to run it again and see what happens
[03:19] <medeshago> oskude, nothing at all
[03:19] <medeshago> no sound
[03:19] <monomaniacpat> how do you remove multiple packages with apt-get!?
[03:20] <oskude> medeshago, here are settings that should work, but i dont know wheres the right place in ubuntu for that http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=319114
[03:20] <ompaul> monomaniacpat, type their names after the remove command
[03:21] <nocturn> Hi all
[03:21] <pjay_> neone here had any luck with cedega cvs?
[03:21] <medeshago> oskude, thanks i'll give it a try
[03:21] <kaiman1944> hola hola soy kaiman ,quien anda
[03:21] <arooni-linux> concept10: i still get the same error when i try to change properties in the team => svn (failed to load javahl library)
[03:21] <oskude> medeshago, or as it sais :) "Note to debian users: You need to save this information into a file in the /etc/modutils/ directory (Eg. /etc/modutils/alsa) and run update-modules"
[03:21] <nocturn> I'm trying to get a canon MPC200 to work with Ubuntu (Dapper)
[03:21] <nocturn> It is not detected and I cannot select the USB port to try some drivers
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra: try xmms
[03:21] <concept10> arooni-linux, you may have to do a symlink.  check the error log and see where it is trying to load the library from
[03:22] <Ropechoborra> When i click on an url in the chat, the mozilla looks for file:///home/rope/'http://www(thewebiclicked)..... Why is that???
[03:22] <monomaniacpat> ompaul: OK, that didn't work last time...
[03:23] <ompaul> monomaniacpat,  sudo apt-get remove --purge packages
[03:23] <arooni-linux> concept10: java.library.path = /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.1-1.4.2.0/jre/lib/i386:/ usr/lib/firefox
[03:24] <genoobie> mornin all!
[03:24] <concept10> arooni-linux, thats not the one (that is probably your generic java library)
[03:24] <genoobie> I just downloaded a 700 mb distro of ubuntu (live) v6
[03:24] <arooni-linux> concept10: well thats the error int he error message dialog box it spit out
[03:24] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow: its ok if i put sudo apt-get install xmms ??
[03:24] <arooni-linux> concept10: can you tell me where id go to find the error?
[03:25] <genoobie> i have an ibook PPC g3 500mhz/256mb why is it so slow?
[03:25] <arooni-linux> concept10: and then fix it ?  i'm a total noob here and it hurts
[03:25] <concept10> arooni-linux, look in the radrails directory for a error log
[03:25] <oskude> Ropechoborra, fyi: i install all programs with sudo apt-get install
[03:25] <genoobie> can I run the live say without gnome, and say fluxbox instead?
[03:26] <concept10> arooni-linux, youre okay, radrails is dependent on java - thats the problem :)
[03:26] <Ropechoborra> oskude: thansk
[03:26] <Ropechoborra> *thanks
[03:26] <genoobie> I suspect part of the problem is that the CDRW is soo slow
[03:26] <Ropechoborra> Ones installed how do i exec it? i mean, where is it installed?
[03:27] <arooni-linux> concept10: ok... so how do i fix this problem,  ? :P
[03:27] <oskude> Ropechoborra, from the console with "xmms" or in the applications>sound menu
[03:27] <tiagoboldt> genoobie: true, it will get faster if you install the system into your hard drive
[03:27] <Ropechoborra> ty again
[03:27] <tiagoboldt> a lot faster
[03:27] <monomaniacpat> Is there a way to reinstall ubuntu packages, regardless of what packages are already installed?
[03:28] <arooni-linux> concept10: i'm thinking the issue is: http://subclipse.tigris.org/faq.html#get-javahl but im not sure
[03:28] <monomaniacpat> I want to do the whole lot
[03:28] <concept10> arooni-linux, find the error log, you have to find out what path it is attempting to load that javasvnwhatever library, make sure that is correct
[03:28] <oskude> monomaniacpat, man apt-get says "--reinstall"
[03:28] <genoobie> but tiagoboldt I ran DSL on a P3 750 and the thing is a rocket
[03:28] <concept10> arooni-linux, i looked at that page, and suggested the packages that were listed
[03:28] <monomaniacpat> oskude: thank you
[03:28] <genoobie> may I'm just looking at the wrong distro...
[03:28] <ome> Anyone know a good walkthrough for setting up lamp on ubuntu? I just want to set it up so i can test php files without having to upload to host. Currently firefox trys to save php files when loaded from hardrive.
[03:28] <arooni-linux> concept10: i have no idea where this error log is
[03:29] <Subhuman_> can the ubuntu installer resize fat32 partitions?
[03:29] <concept10> arooni-linux, also try #radrails. those guys are nice
[03:29] <cwillu> custom script that I want to be globally accessible goes where?  just /bin?
[03:29] <oskude> ome, sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql (or change to php4 if you prefer)
[03:29] <ome> k ill try that
[03:29] <dsas> ome: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:29] <Subhuman_> cwillu, /usr/bin
[03:29] <arooni-linux> concept10: didnt you have these issues as well?
[03:30] <cwillu> thanks
[03:30] <ome> E: Package mysql has no installation candidate
[03:31] <ucordes> hi there
[03:32] <nocturn> does anyone know how to get a Canon USB printer recognized (mpc200)?
[03:32] <oskude> ome, try php5-mysql (or php4-mysql, depending on which php you installed)
[03:32] <ucordes> in reconfigure xorg i can not select fglrx. only ati. but with ati my resolution 1280x800 does not work. n'either with vesa. any suggestions?
[03:32] <oskude> ome, tip: if you do a dir named "public_html" in your home dir, you can access that through http://localhost/~yourusername
[03:33] <cwillu> anybody know the kernel module I need to make my custom kernel display the bootup stuff again?  and is it possible to add it without recompiling the kernel?  (I'm using an initrd image already)
[03:34] <oskude> ucordes, did you install fglrx ?
[03:34] <ucordes> no. it was preinstall in the package linux restricted modules with my dapper drake 32
[03:34] <oskude> ucordes, the package name is xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:34] <siriusnova> anyone here have any experience compiling X.org 7.1 ?
[03:34] <concept10> What are these processes for ?  [kacpid-work-0] 
[03:34] <genoobie> plus ubuntu's live version loads too slowly
[03:34] <genoobie> no recognition of the airport card
[03:35] <Subhuman_> genoobie, all live cds are slow
[03:35] <oskude> ucordes, i doubt that its preinstalled (by ubuntu installer)
[03:35] <Subhuman_> if you want the fastest install use the text installer
[03:35] <Ropechoborra> How to uninstall some program?
[03:35] <genoobie> Subhuman_, I know, but how come no airport recognition?
[03:35] <ucordes> oskude: i think it is- because in linux restricted modules (wich is installed) is also my madwifi driver installed, which works
[03:35] <monomaniacpat> !acpi
[03:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about acpi
[03:36] <oskude> Ropechoborra, synaptic is a good GUI, but "sudo apt-get remove packagename" does it too...
[03:36] <monomaniacpat> what is acpi, anyone?
[03:36] <dsas> Ropechoborra: sudo apt-get remove <program-name>
[03:36] <dsas> monomaniacpat: It's power management stuff. mainly used for laptops.
[03:36] <Ropechoborra> thanks
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra: same way you installed it except uncheck it.. optionally, you can remove or purge it from your system
[03:36] <oskude> ucordes, does "dpkg -l | grep fglrx" show that package i told ?
[03:36] <ucordes> oskude: wait i check
[03:36] <genoobie> any tips on how to get the live CD to recognize my airport?
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Broadcom
[03:37] <ome> Ok it apears everything is already installed and the sudo a2enmod php5 is already enabled.. Do i need to put php files in a certain directory?
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> genoobie: airport = Broadcom does it not?
[03:37] <oskude> ome, did you get my tip with public_html ? otherwise, http://localhost is at /var/www
[03:37] <ucordes> oskude: how do i make  |  :-x
[03:37] <Ropechoborra> is it bad for the system to install and uninstall several programs ?? (im looking for the one i like)
[03:38] <ome> k ill try that
[03:38] <Subhuman_> ucordes,  you need the "build-essential" package
[03:38] <Subhuman_> Ropechoborra, no.
[03:38] <oskude> ucordes, in german keyboard its altgr+<
[03:38] <cbx333> hi all, anyone know why ubuntu won't mount a logical partition inside a Win95 Extended partition
[03:38] <ucordes> subhuman: what does it make?
[03:38] <ucordes> oskude: ok this is the layout i need
[03:38] <ome> when i launch php file from /var/www it still trys to save php file
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> cbx333: No reason it would not... HAve you tried the diskmounter script.. ?
[03:39] <monomaniacpat> I want to reinstall all of the dependencies (including all of the packages in the meta-packages upon which) ubuntu-desktop depends - any ideas?
[03:39] <oskude> Ropechoborra, as long you dont uninstall any system critical files. you may install/uninstall how much you like :)
[03:39] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow: what was that writing option in your script about ?? (the ntfs mounting one)
[03:39] <cbx333> when I created it during installation it worked fine, and if I mount it on knoppix the user folder is there
[03:39] <Subhuman_> ucordes, "make" is a program that makes a program from itz scripts.
[03:39] <Subhuman_> !make
[03:39] <Ropechoborra> oskude: cool :)
[03:39] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[03:39] <cbx333> Jack_Sparrow: no, what's that?
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra:  experimental writing to ntfs drives
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[03:39] <Ropechoborra> Is that safe?
[03:39] <ucordes> oskude: no it shows nothing
[03:39] <oskude> ome, copy the file to /var/www and then with firefox open http://localhost
[03:39] <ome> thanks for the help i got it working
[03:40] <ucordes> oskude: yea but how does it help me with my problem?
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra:  Not in my opinion, I'll let others test it..
[03:40] <oskude> ucordes, ok, so you dont have installed the drivers yet...
[03:40] <cbx333> Jack_Sparrow but it is an ext3 partition, just inside a Win95 Extended parition
[03:40] <cbx333> if you get my meaning
[03:40] <ucordes> subhuman: yea but how does it help me with my problem?
[03:40] <cbx333> I created the extended partition ages ago
[03:40] <medeshago> oskude, it didn't work
[03:40] <cbx333> I have fedora on that machine and the boot partition is inside there, that has no problem booting off it
[03:40] <Subhuman_> ucordes, what are u trying to do?
[03:40] <ucordes> oskude: how do i install it via console?
[03:40] <cbx333> just ubuntu won;t mount it, at all
[03:40] <cbx333> even if I ask it to manually
[03:41] <oskude> ucordes, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-fglrx (if i recall correct)
[03:41] <ucordes> subhuman: i am trying to install fglrx driver via console
[03:41] <ucordes> oskude: ok i'll try this
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> cbx333: I would try the script... It cannot hurt.
[03:41] <oskude> medeshago, damn :( did you runt the command they said ? and try restart of alsa again
[03:41] <cbx333> ok
[03:41] <DVDx> hi guys does ubuntu have kismet?
[03:42] <cbx333> however it's no a HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partition
[03:42] <cbx333> it is ext3
[03:42] <DVDx> i could get from apt-get ?
[03:42] <cbx333> but I will try later
[03:42] <ucordes> oskude: it says invalid operation: xserver-xorg...
[03:42] <Subhuman_> DVDx, you can get it in apt
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> cbx333: pastebin your fstab if that script does not work
[03:42] <oskude> ucordes, scroll up, i said the correct package before...
[03:42] <Subhuman_> ucordes,"sudo apt-get install"
[03:42] <cbx333> I can't now, but the fstab looks fine
[03:42] <cbx333> I can't mount it manually
[03:42] <Subhuman_> then all the xserver- stuff
[03:42] <cbx333> it says that the device is busy
[03:43] <medeshago> oskude, how did i restart alsa?
[03:43] <oskude> medeshago, did you allso do this "sudo update-modules" ?
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> cbx333: what prog did you use to create that partition?
[03:43] <cbx333> brb
[03:43] <cbx333> win xp i think ages ago
[03:43] <oskude> ucordes, the package name is xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:43] <ome> Is there a way i can make a directory on desktop that i can link to? That way i can copy files without having to open terminal
[03:44] <oskude> medeshago, "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart"
[03:44] <DVDx> Subhuman_: i'm looking in synaptic manager can't find it
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> cbx333: XP is the OS but what program running under XP created the partition,
[03:44] <ucordes> oskude: thanks a lot. it is installing the package. tell me.. what do theye mean by "This APT has Super Cow Powers"??? :-D
[03:44] <Subhuman_> DVDx, do you have the universe/multiverse repos?
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> system admin synaptic
[03:44] <jrib> ome: you can make a symlink on your desktop, I think that would work
[03:45] <DVDx> i don't know
[03:45] <oskude> ome, i would suggest you use public_html dir...
[03:45] <kindor> anyone know of a sip client that works with esdin/out so it works in nx ?
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> DVDx: system admin synaptic
[03:45] <dsas> ome: Make a folder called public_html in your homedir
[03:45] <ucordes> anyone has super cow powers?
[03:45] <kindor> moo ;/
[03:45] <ome> ok but i gotta use terminal to write in home directory
[03:45] <Subhuman_> DVDx, "jack@ubuntu:~$ apt-cache search kismet" returns "kismet - Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool" for me
[03:45] <medeshago> oskude, sudo update-modules doesn't do anything, and restarting alsa didn't fix it
[03:45] <ucordes> ^^
[03:45] <oskude> juhuu, work over, im going home :)
[03:45] <aimaz> kindor, ekiga maybe?
[03:45] <Subhuman_> ucordes, "apt-get moo" :D
[03:46] <kindor> aimaz: i've tried ekiga but that wouldnt work at all. only local sound hardware
[03:46] <oskude> medeshago, im out of ideas, but ill be on again in 30mins or so
[03:46] <ucordes> oskude i whish nice relaxation
[03:46] <Subhuman_> DVDx, > !universe
[03:46] <Subhuman_> !universe
[03:46] <DVDx> doesn't find anything 4 me
[03:46] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:46] <medeshago> oskude, thanks
[03:46] <ucordes> oskude: and thx for your help
[03:46] <oskude> np, bb
[03:46] <vilkus> can somebody help me to install my drivers for my graphic card ( gforce 6200)
[03:46] <ome> whats the make directory command? md?
[03:46] <Subhuman_> vilkus, i have the same card
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia
[03:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:47] <mc__> !automatix > vilkus
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> vilkus: running 6600 here.. was easy
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix
[03:47] <Subhuman_> vilkus, just "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[03:47] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:47] <vilkus> ok
[03:47] <vilkus> ill try
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> automatix is NOT the best solution
[03:47] <Subhuman_> Jack_Sparrow, automatix uses --force
[03:48] <Subhuman_> Jack_Sparrow, suggest easysource, it is safer & acomplishes the same thing
[03:48] <Subhuman_> !easysource
[03:48] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:48] <Subhuman_> !easyubuntu
[03:48] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:48] <Subhuman_> :S
[03:48] <vilkus> thx ^^
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> easyubuntu is almost as bad.. note the SAME warning
[03:49] <DVDx> !universe
[03:49] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:49] <Subhuman_> Jack_Sparrow, look at the code of both - easyubuntu is safe.
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> It is not hard to manually install for the nvidia card
[03:49] <Subhuman_> Jack_Sparrow, it will not force a package and it returns your source list to normal after.
[03:49] <ucordes> my notebook is getting extremly hot and i can't access power management. what can i do to set cpu core?
[03:49] <Jeeves_Moss> all:  any one here experienced with Toshiba T.V. tuners?
[03:50] <ucordes> !acpi
[03:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about acpi
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Subhuman_:  Too many people still hose up their systems..
[03:50] <Jeeves_Moss> ubitu:  do you have any ideas on this T.V. tuner card?
[03:50] <techjunk> is there a sudoku game?
[03:51] <toddobryan> I have an Intel 915 video card. Someone pointed out the drivers on Intel's website, but there's an RPM and a source version with no configure file. What should I do?
[03:51] <DVDx> couldn't find package kismet
[03:51] <fyrestrtr> toddobryan: drivers for your card are already available
[03:51] <Lynoure> toddobryan: what's wrong with the free drivers?
[03:51] <Subhuman_> Jack_Sparrow, my automatix experience is nowhere near as good as my EU one, EU has NEVER failed on the 10+ ubuntu installs i have done, the 2-3 times ive used automatix have broken things on the suystem
[03:51] <toddobryan> Are they included with the install, because I can't get video at all?
[03:52] <malavar> bibleboy u there?
[03:52] <ome> Ok I made the public_html directory but i cant save to it from apps and i cant write to it without using terminal.
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Subhuman_: Glad it worked for you..  That has NOT been the case for all...  Perhaps that is why the Wiki page has people do it manually
[03:52] <toddobryan> After GNOME starts, the monitor goes black and the power light blinks.
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Subhuman_: and they might learn something in the process
[03:52] <Subhuman_> Jack_Sparrow, the wiki obviously will not use third party applications, as it then implies they need to support any issues with that too.
[03:52] <jrib> ome: what does 'ls -ld ~/public_html' say?
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> ome: did you set the permissions to that folder?
[03:53] <malavar> oh bibleboy where art thou? :)
[03:53] <ome> Jrib: im not sure what you mean
[03:53] <jrib> ome: just type that command in your shell and paste the output here
[03:53] <ome> How do i set permissions to it in terminal?
[03:53] <ucordes> how can i change the language?
[03:54] <jrib> ucordes: system > administration > language support
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> ome: since you created it, hopefully not as sudo, then you should be able to right click and set them
[03:54] <ucordes> jrib: this is not available
[03:54] <ome> its greyed out
[03:54] <ome> I can only do stuff with desktop and above
[03:54] <jrib> ucordes: are you using GNOME?
[03:55] <Varan> I'm trying to run badblocks with the -w flag but I get: /dev/hdb is apparently in use by the system; it's not safe to run badblocks! And i'm booted wfrom the live cd. hdb is not in use as far as i know
[03:55] <ucordes> normal ubuntu dapper, mate
[03:55] <ome> I did create it as sudo. I wasnt aware i could any other way
[03:55] <cbx333> Jack_Sparrow: it was the XP installation program I believe
[03:55] <cbx333> either that or it was fdisk
[03:55] <toddobryan> fyrestrtr & Lynoure: Should they be included, or are they a separate download?
[03:55] <Varan> Does anyone know why i'm getting this?
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> cbx333:  the xp install program does NOT have that option
[03:55] <ome> Should I create it as root using sudo bash?
[03:55] <cbx333> it was fdisk then
[03:55] <jrib> ome: you shouldn't use sudo when you are doing stuff in your $HOME
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> ome: it has been created you jut need to set the permissions, hold for a sec someone at the door
[03:56] <jrib> ome: just do this: sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/public_html
[03:56] <jrib> ome: _not_ as root/sudo
[03:57] <pricechild> hi, could anyone help me with a shared internet conenctino from a dapper pc which is EXTREMELY slow
[03:57] <DVDx> i can't find kismet =\
[03:57] <ucordes> they just deleted my german lang files
[03:57] <jrib> DVDx: have you enabled universe?
[03:57] <ucordes> everything was german
[03:57] <DVDx> not by apt-cache search
[03:57] <ome> still cant paste in it
[03:57] <cbx333> DVDx
[03:57] <cbx333> search in packages.ubuntu.com
[03:58] <ucordes> then i reconfigured my xorg. and now it has to download german packs again
[03:58] <DVDx> i don't know where or how
[03:58] <ucordes> just lol
[03:58] <jrib> ome: what does 'ls -ld ~/public_html' say now?
[03:58] <cbx333> it'll tell you where it's located then make sure you have that repo in your sources.list
[03:58] <cbx333> DVDx, goto packages.ubuntu.com
[03:58] <alim_mw> hi. i'm a mew user of ubuntu. can someone could explain how i can make the internet connection ? i have a cable connection with username and password. i configured the local network but i don't know how to connect to the internet. thank you
[03:58] <ome> ls - ld?
[03:58] <cbx333> then in the searchfor a package box type in kismet
[03:58] <jrib> ome: it's just a command to return the permissions, everything inside the quotes
[03:58] <cbx333> it is there
[03:59] <lilminimey0> hi everyone, ive just installed ubuntu on my computer, witch I have connected to my Pioneer pdp r05 43" plasma tv, i'm supposed to install mythtv, but before I do that, i need the resolution in ubuntu to be correct. I cant get the display fitted.
[03:59] <jrib> !universe > DVDx
[03:59] <Ropechoborra> lilminimey0: try xorg
[03:59] <ome> owner has read, write, execute.....  only owner has write
[03:59] <Ropechoborra> no?
[03:59] <cbx333> dapper (net): Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool [universe] 
[03:59] <jrib> ome: who is the owner
[03:59] <lilminimey0> The only resolution i have to chose from is 640x480 and 800x600
[03:59] <ome> me
[03:59] <lilminimey0> Ropechoborra: ive tried xorg
[03:59] <lilminimey0> Doesnt work:P
[04:00] <ome> far as i know but i cant log in as root
[04:00] <Ropechoborra> lilminimey0: not much to get from me... kindda noob =P
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> ome sudo is SAFER root
[04:00] <jrib> ome: then you can paste in there, try 'touch ~/public_html/this_works' and see if it creates a file called "this_works" inside ~/public_html/
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> lilminimey0: what video card?
[04:00] <ompaul> ome, you don't need to you can read what I am about to have the bot send you it will explain Linux with no need for root
[04:00] <lilminimey0> Jack_Sparrow: Point Of View Geforce 6800Ultra
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> 6600 here
[04:00] <ompaul> !RootSudo > ome
[04:01] <lilminimey0> but i guess you just wanted to know if it was ati or nvidia:P
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> lilminimey0: HAve you manually installed any drivers
[04:01] <ome> thanks
[04:01] <ompaul> yw
[04:01] <lilminimey0> Jack_Sparrow: Yes, ive installed the nvidia driver, witch works, and is detected in xorg
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> lilminimey0: what does running glxgears -printfps show  for my own info
[04:02] <jeeves_Moss> all:  did any one see the slashdot.org artical on Mac users switching to Ubunut?
[04:02] <jrib> !offtopic
[04:02] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib:  Who is offtopic?
[04:03] <jeeves_Moss> ubotu:  well, some times people need to interject some random data into this channel to get other's attention.
[04:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about well, some times people need to interject some random data into this channel to get other's attention.
[04:03] <lilminimey0> Jack_Sparrow: it gives me: 14536, 17494, 17745fps
[04:03] <zOap> I've deleted a 2 gb file from /home which is a partition of it's own. But systm monitor still says that the size of /home is the same as before. Trash holds nothing,, Where does deleted files go?
[04:03] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: the /. article on mac users switching to ubuntu?
[04:03] <Phopsy> Heylo friends, I'm running 6.06 and just plugged in a new soundcard (which, incidentally, IS supported by ALSA) - Can someone give me some help on how to get the little fella working?
[04:04] <jeeves_Moss> jack_sparrow:  are you any good with Toshiba units?  I'd like to get my TV tuner to work
[04:04] <ome> isnt there a simple command line i can type to make a directory in home with permission? I need group permission unless i log in as root.
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> jeeves_Moss: No sorry...
[04:04] <jeeves_Moss> jack_sparrow:  any ideas?  google isn't much help
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> lilminimey0: what res are you trying to get?
[04:04] <monkey__>  hello all, how can i remove modules not needed "module xy already loaded skipping...."
[04:05] <lilminimey0> I trie to get 1368x768
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> jeeves_Moss: HAve you tried toshiba or google?
[04:05] <ompaul> jeeves_Moss, ubotu is a bot ..
[04:05] <jrib> ome: what do you mean exactly?
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> lilminimey0: and it is not in the list?
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> lilminimey0: can you paste your xorg to pastebin?
[04:05] <lilminimey0> Jack_Sparrow: Its in xorg, but not in the dropdown list in gnome
[04:05] <ome> I mean i cant paste in there when only owner can write.
[04:05] <lilminimey0> suresure
[04:05] <Phopsy> Heylo friends, I'm running 6.06 and just plugged in a new soundcard (which, incidentally, IS supported by ALSA) - Can someone give me some help on how to get the little fella working?
[04:05] <jeeves_Moss> Jack_sparrow:  Toshiba is more usless than Poland was in the world cup when it comes to support, and I've allready looked on google.
[04:05] <ome> owner is root
[04:05] <barongas> flash 8 no no?
[04:05] <toddobryan> I've installed Ubuntu on an IBM 8143. During startup, everything is fine until GNOME starts up, then the screen goes black and the power light on the monitor blinks.
[04:06] <jrib> ome: change the owner to your user for ~/public_html/
[04:06] <ompaul> ome, what file are you trying to work with ?
[04:06] <ome> i just wanna be able to paste files in /home/public_html
[04:06] <ome> need write access
[04:06] <partsguy> any ideas whe my network tools applet would open for a split second and then close running dapper/gnome
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> ome:  here is a command to use very seldom and only as needed...  From term gksudo nautilus    now browse to your folder and set permissions..
[04:07] <ompaul> ome, as jrib said or sudo cp foo ~/here/
[04:07] <POVaddct> ompaul: man chown, man chmod
[04:07] <ome> im not looking for terminal access. . Im looking for app write permission
[04:07] <ome> thanks jack
[04:07] <Phopsy> Heylo friends, I'm running 6.06 and just plugged in a new soundcard (which, incidentally, IS supported by ALSA) - Can someone give me some help on how to get the little fella working?
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> jeeves_Moss:  do you have a model number
[04:07] <monteiro> anyone has a macbook intel core duo 13,3'' ?
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !alsa
[04:08] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[04:08] <Phopsy> Thanks Jack_Sparrow
[04:08] <jeeves_Moss> Jack_sparrow:  of the tuner or the laptop?  Linux is telling me that it can't open the device @ /dev/video0
[04:08] <monkey__> someone know how i can remove modules not needed or loaded twice at bootup?
[04:08] <ompaul> POVaddct, that too but note that it is /home/public_html so ....
[04:09] <monkey__> without recompiling the kernel
[04:09] <monkey__> :)
[04:09] <POVaddct> ompaul: whats the problem? chown to a group to which his user belongs and chmod to make it group-writable
[04:09] <jeeves_Moss> jack_sparrow:  its a Toshiba Satellite P20
[04:10] <Cyberai> ubotu, what do you do if "multimedia system selector" isn't there? (As it's not on any of my Dapper boxen)
[04:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about what do you do if "multimedia system selector" isn't there? (As it's not on any of my Dapper boxen)
[04:10] <ome> Jack_Sparrow im not able to browse to home with that command jack.. It brings me to desktop folders
[04:10] <Cyberai> argh
[04:10] <ompaul> POVaddct, that works but he wanted to copy as root and if you wrote a new config file you might want to put it in /etc/ handy to know
[04:10] <ompaul> Cyberai, you are talking to a bot
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> ome: click the up arrow until it greys out then /home etc
[04:11] <Phopsy> Cyberai I'm having the same trouble
[04:11] <Cyberai> ompaul, I realize that, I'm just trying to get someone to answer, being a little saucy
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> ome: that is what I meant by browse
[04:11] <ome> back was greyed out but ill try up
[04:11] <POVaddct> ompaul: i guess i don't have the full context
[04:11] <monteiro> does anyone owns a mac intel ?
[04:11] <toddobryan> Anybody have a good link for video issue troubleshooting?
[04:11] <ome> thanks
[04:11] <jrib> !codecs > toddobryan
[04:13] <toddobryan> jrlb: Would that I were there. I just have a blank screen.
[04:13] <jeeves_Moss> jack_sparrow:  is there a listing somewhere on the net that shows all of the USB codes for devices?
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> ome:  no problem glad it worked
[04:13] <toddobryan> Anybody have a good link for video DRIVER troubleshooting?
[04:14] <ompaul> POVaddct, tbh both approaches are valid
[04:14] <jrib> toddobryan: what card do you have?
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> jeeves_Moss: What usb device are you running?
[04:14] <toddobryan> It's listed as an Intel 900 something, but I think it's a 915 chip (based on IBM's site).
[04:14] <Frogzoo> toddobryan: which vid card?
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> toddobryan: what video chipset/card are you running?
[04:14] <ucordes> *
[04:15] <ucordes> +t80#
[04:15] <lilminimey0> Jack_Sparrow: It seems like pastebin is very slow at the moment?
[04:15] <ucordes>   +
[04:15] <jeeves_Moss> jack_sparrow:  The Toshiba T.V. tuner is basicly a USB capture card that shows up as "0930:1001 Toshiba Corp,"
[04:15] <partsguy> isnter a 915detect in the repos
[04:15] <lilminimey0> Jack_Sparrow: Any other pastbin you might want to recomand?
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> lilminimey0: I've got plenty to do until it acepts your paste
[04:15] <ompaul> !test
[04:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about test
[04:16] <lilminimey0> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17259
[04:16] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> jeeves_Moss: Yuk, that has disaster written all over it..  The model of the capture card?
[04:16] <wubrgamer> i'm trying to use mysql, AND I WANT A GUI !
[04:16] <wubrgamer> *tear*
[04:16] <oskude> wubrgamer, i use phpmyadmin
[04:17] <Subhuman_> wubrgamer, "phpmyadmin" then
[04:17] <wubrgamer> is it in repo's ?
[04:17] <toddobryan> wurbgamer: There's a mysqladmin GUI package in the repos.
[04:17] <jeeves_Moss> jack_sparrow:  it's a model PA3347U-1TVN  I know this much, I'll NEVER buy another Toshiba!!!
[04:17] <toddobryan> (I almost downloaded it.)
[04:17] <tritium> jeeves_Moss: there are only a handful of TV tuner cards that are supported under linux, and they're all PCI cards
[04:17] <Subhuman_> although wubrgamer, if you cant handle the command line then you probably dont need myswl.
[04:17] <wubrgamer> myswl ?
[04:17] <lilminimey0> Jack_Sparrow: See, everythings seems to be correct
[04:17] <wubrgamer> Wl ?
[04:17] <Frogzoo> !mysql > wubrgamer
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> lilminimey0: and you are trying to run 1336?
[04:18] <jeeves_Moss> tritium:  so what you're saying is I'm s**t out of luck
[04:18] <toddobryan> partsguy: Just searched dapper packages. Nothing called 915detect.
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> jeeves_Moss:  no but it is not a plug and play situation.
[04:18] <wubrgamer> dude, I KNOW WHAT LAMP IS
[04:18] <jeeves_Moss> jack_sparrow:  don't you mean "plug and pray" situation?
[04:18] <lilminimey0> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[04:18] <ompaul> wubrgamer, I know that caps lock are not needed
[04:18] <tritium> jeeves_Moss: most likely, sorry
[04:19] <jeeves_Moss> tritium:  I'm wondering if there would be anything on the chipsets.
[04:19] <tritium> jeeves_Moss: what do you mean?
[04:19] <wubrgamer> phpmyadmin guy, what is the default user name and password ?
[04:19] <lilminimey0> Jack_Sparrow: Ive read about my tv, and ppls says its the only good resolution for it, its kinda chinky since the tv is 43 and not 42".
[04:19] <jeeves_Moss> tritium:  if I opened it, and figured out what chips were on the board, we might be able to get a better idea than what the system is reporting.
[04:20] <tritium> jeeves_Moss: ah, right
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> lilminimey0: I see one error a double display
[04:20] <partsguy> it's 915resolution
[04:20] <lilminimey0> Jack_Sparrow: what?
[04:20] <Cyberai> I have no sound on two boxes, both running Dapper, different hardware. But have sound on laptop (Dell 610) and box at work (same as one of the boxes at home). So weird. Even stranger is that one of my home boxes runs MythTV, and the TV part has sound, but not DVD (which uses Xine) I checked how Myth is set up to use sound and changed Xine to match, but no luck. Can anyone help?
[04:20] <monomaniacpat> Is there a way of forcibly reinstalling the ubuntu-desktop package and all of if it's dependencies and sub-dependencies from a live cd?
[04:20] <jeeves_Moss> tritium:  it's just like the built in SD card reader.  I'd like to find the moron @ Toshiba who decided to make this a M$ only box.
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Line 128
[04:20] <tritium> jeeves_Moss: :(
[04:20] <lilminimey0> Jack_Sparrow: Ok, fixed, but didnt change anything
[04:20] <lilminimey0> Jack_Sparrow: Still same problem
[04:21] <Subhuman_> monomaniacpat, "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[04:21] <toddobryan> partsguy: So if I install that, I should be good to go?
[04:21] <tritium> Subhuman_, monomaniacpat: apt-get install --reinstall is a better option
[04:21] <jeeves_Moss> tritium: @ what point does Bill have to get to before he relizes that he can buy the world and he needs to stop?
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> lilminimey0: You fixed that fast, but I would restart X to be sure it reads it
[04:21] <Cyberai> monomaniacpat, with synaptic you can do that, by changing the repositores in it's setup to only the original install CD, and then selecting the offending packages and doing a force reload (re-install? I dont remember the exact term)
[04:22] <lilminimey0> Jack_Sparrow: Im on a laptop on the left of the computer now, i restart x now ... to secs
[04:22] <monomaniacpat> Subhuman_: will that not just remove and install ubuntu-desktop and not it's subdependencies (ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package.) I am currently on the livecd desktop
[04:22] <tritium> jeeves_Moss: well, he's quite a philanthropist, so I'll give the guy a break
[04:22] <jeeves_Moss> tritium:  I wonder how many people voted on giving him the boot.
[04:22] <Subhuman_> monomaniacpat, what do you mean by "sub-dependencies"? what is the underlying problem?
[04:22] <jeeves_Moss> tritium:  here is my beast.  It would be a VERY nice system to show off Ubuntu on.  http://www.toshiba.ca/web/product.grp?section=1&group=223&product=2352
[04:22] <lilminimey0> Jack_Sparrow: Ok, done, restarted x, still not working
[04:23] <tritium> jeeves_Moss: don't know, but we should keep this on-topic, or move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:23] <toddobryan> Thanks for the help, guys. I'm off to school to try it. (I'm changing my lab from Windows XP to Ubuntu this year.)
[04:23] <jeeves_Moss> tritium:  is there any other way of extracting more info from this unit in Linux?
[04:24] <ompaul>  jeeves_Moss lshw
[04:24] <toddobryan> Where can I add something about the 915resolution package? I've been googling for a while and nothing came up.
[04:24] <oskude_> damn lag, if someone wanted something from me, please repeat the question
[04:24] <tritium> jeeves_Moss: yeah, see ompaul's answer
[04:24] <monomaniacpat> Subhuman_: I have installed kde/lkubuntu and it has over-written some gnome/ubuntu parts I would like back. Like the loading cursor image and the splash at startup and now the login manager is a bit broken too
[04:24] <jeeves_Moss> ompaul:  ok, that just gave me a bunch of info.  What should I be looking for?
[04:25] <monomaniacpat> Subhuman_: I want kde to be a slave of gnome, not the other way around
[04:25] <ompaul> jeeves_Moss, read it though slowly and it will jump off the screen at you
[04:25] <tritium> monomaniacpat: all you have to do is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" to get back the gnome display manager
[04:25] <EnsilZah> Question - How do i get ubuntu to re-recognize my GPU?
[04:25] <tritium> EnsilZah: sudp dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:25] <sobersabre> hi. I am having a very strange issue. I think I get into swap thrashing.
[04:25] <jeeves_Moss> ompaul:  WOW, talk about a bunch of info.  Is this just what the system "thinks" the parts are, or what the parts are actuly reporting?
[04:25] <Subhuman_> monomaniacpat, jus reinstall "usplash" and the cursor you can change in gnome
[04:25] <ompaul> actual reaports
[04:26] <ompaul> jeeves_Moss, read it twice and it becomes rather easy to find what you want
[04:26] <sobersabre> where can I read about how big swap space do I need on 1.25 GB of RAM in a laptop with 5400RPM harddisk
[04:26] <EnsilZah> tritium: Wouldn't that make me reconfigure all the outher hardware as well?
[04:26] <tritium> Subhuman_, monomaniacpat: you can't just install usplash.  The image is kept in the initrd
[04:26] <tritium> EnsilZah: no
[04:26] <Subhuman_> tritium, i did when i screwed it up
[04:26] <jeeves_Moss> ompaul:  I know this will sound like a VERY n00b question, but how do I access a ZIP drive on one of my other boxes?  I also have a SCSI tape backup on another server that I have NO idea how to access.
[04:26] <lilminimey0> Jack_Sparrow: Do you know what powerstrips for windows is?
[04:27] <monomaniacpat> tritium: what will gdm reinstall do exactly?
[04:27] <Frogzoo> SonicChao: typical is 1x - 2x your installed ram
[04:27] <tritium> Subhuman_: reinstalling usplash doesn't re-make the initrd image.  You have ot sudo dpkg-reconfigure the linux-image to do that.
[04:27] <SonicChao> Frogzoo: Huh?
[04:27] <EnsilZah> tritium: I'm asking that because i did that once and it asked me about my keyboard and such...
[04:27] <SonicChao> Frogzoo: I don't need help, I'm here to help, what's goin' on?
[04:27] <tritium> monomaniacpat: don't reinstall gdm.  Just reconfigure it, and select gdm as your display manager
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> lilminimey0: No...
[04:27] <ompaul> sobersabre, it should be nice with the same amount there is a rule of thumb that says twice what you have but if you ever got to needing that much swap you would have some serious hardware issues
[04:27] <Frogzoo> sobersabre: typical is 1x - 2x your installed ram
[04:27] <Frogzoo> SonicChao: soz
[04:27] <tritium> EnsilZah: yes, but not _all_ your hardware
[04:28] <tritium> EnsilZah: you could also manually edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:28] <SonicChao> Frogzoo: Oh, Lol, you were helping someone else that starts with "S" :P
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> lilminimey0: Follow the last line in the help section of your xorg to try and get it to reconfig..
[04:28] <monomaniacpat> tritium: will that over-write xorg.conf?
[04:28] <lostinc>  I currently have Xsane 0.97 installed via the Ubuntu Package-manager. I have downloaded the source to the newer version 0.991 and wish to compile and install it. What do I have to do to install it? Should I remove the old package via synaptic first?
[04:28] <lilminimey0> Jack_Sparrow: Its a software that leys you zoom the program until it fits your tv, and then sets that resolution
[04:28] <ompaul> jeeves_Moss, tar should talk directly to the tape - we are talking the "tape archive software" ;-) as for the zip never used one
[04:28] <Frogzoo> SonicChao: it's the tab effect - catches everyone sooner or later
[04:28] <ubuntu_> hi
[04:28] <tritium> monomaniacpat: no
[04:29] <SonicChao> Frogzoo: I know, I've made that mistake b4 too...
[04:29] <monomaniacpat> tritium: OK, will I need to know any info?
[04:29] <jeeves_Moss> ompaul:  idealy, I'd like to cron it to backup the MySQL database.  But I've yet to come accross some one who is good @ the tape stuff
[04:29] <ompaul> jeeves_Moss, if supported when connected it should be shown ni system administration disks
[04:29] <EnsilZah> tritium: I'm trying to get my GPU re-recognized after flashing its BIOS, any suggestions for the best way to do that?
[04:29] <tritium> monomaniacpat: no, you'll just see a list of available display managers to choose from
[04:29] <ome> how do i link to public_html so that it dosnt try to save file
[04:29] <Frogzoo> jeeves_Moss: man mt
[04:29] <monomaniacpat> tritium: ok, thanks, will try that
[04:29] <tritium> EnsilZah: what makes you think it's not "recognized"?  And what do you mean by that?
[04:29] <sobersabre> ompaul: I have read a small paragraph by a guy who hacks the kernel. about the swap size
[04:29] <jeeves_Moss> Frogzoo:  ???
[04:30] <sobersabre> anyway, he said this paradigm of swapsize=2xmemsize is over
[04:30] <Frogzoo> jeeves_Moss: really writing shell scripts to manage tar/mt is so yesterday
[04:30] <tritium> sobersabre: keep in mind that hibernation writes states to swap, so you'll want at least 1X
[04:30] <sobersabre> and the speed of RAM vs. HD plays crucial  role in calculating this ratio
[04:30] <mormoloc> how do install all fonts on ubuntu?
[04:31] <SonicChao> !fonts
[04:31] <jrib> !fonts > mormoloc
[04:31] <ubotu> fonts is Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, gsfonts-x11 - Microsoft fonts: install the msttcorefonts package
[04:31] <jeeves_Moss> FrogZoo:  I know, but I'm running on less than a string budget.  I'm still in school (and fighting my way out of a messy devorice from my blood sucking ex wife), so I have to make do with that I can scrounge.
[04:31] <sladen> tritium: sudo update-initramfs -u `uname -r`
[04:31] <SonicChao> jrib: hi...Remember me? :D
[04:31] <tritium> sladen: thanks
[04:31] <EnsilZah> tritium: Well, it listed as a different type of GPU, i have a GeForce 6600 AGP  and it was listed as GeForce Go 6600 GT PCI-E, i flashed the card which should enable me to install the nVidia drivers, but it doesn't so i'm guessing it still thinks it's the old one.
[04:31] <jrib> SonicChao: hi, kernel panic right?
[04:31] <mormoloc> jrib: thanks for the quik answer:)
[04:31] <sladen> sobersabre: you still want that want space to be able to Hibernate to
[04:31] <SonicChao> jrib: Yup
[04:32] <jrib> SonicChao: you get that sorted out?
[04:32] <jeeves_Moss> tritium:  It reports this card under the USB listings, and it "claims" to be a "USB-CAPTURE".  I think I'm just screwed here.
[04:32] <ompaul> sobersabre, if you get to that level with it you are in trouble - if you ever have to use even a gig of swap in anything other than the strangest of circumstances you are in deep
[04:32] <Frogzoo> jeeves_Moss: there have to be a thousand bash/tar/mt scripts on the web -> google
[04:32] <SonicChao> jrib: All because of a stupid space...:D
[04:32] <SonicChao> jrib: I am using a fresh ubuntu install right now
[04:32] <Frogzoo> jeeves_Moss: however, there's also lots of backup pkgs on ubuntu
[04:32] <jeeves_Moss> FrogZoo:  want to take a stab @ this Toshiba mess?
[04:32] <jeeves_Moss> FrogZoo:  can you recomend one that runs in shell?
[04:32] <tritium> EnsilZah: listed it where?
[04:32] <Frogzoo> jeeves_Moss: lol - thx, but no
[04:32] <sobersabre> ompaul: Xorg eats all the RAM I get.
[04:33] <ompaul> jeeves_Moss, so you want do go and find the scripts that Frogzoo aluded it it is tape drive specific
[04:33] <sobersabre> I start with 1/2 taken, in several minutes it is fully eaten.
[04:33] <jeeves_Moss> FrogZoo:  I think I'm going to ship this thing back to Toshiba.  It's been a headache after another.
[04:33] <ompaul> sobersabre, no - you cache lots of data - that allows the OS to be faster
[04:33] <Cyberai> can anyone tell me what the equivilant of Breezy's  System->Preferences->Multimedia Selector is in Dapper?
[04:33] <Frogzoo> jeeves_Moss: maybe something here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BackupYourSystem
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> jeeves_Moss:  If you have that option do it..
[04:34] <sobersabre> ompaul: the prob is not in caching, but in disk usage (swap)
[04:34] <sobersabre> and it is used too. that's what sux.
[04:34] <EnsilZah> tritium: Well, in windows, i just read a thread by a guy who had similar hardware...
[04:34] <jeeves_Moss> Jack_sparrow:  I camped out in their offices for 2 days becasue they had my lappy for 4 weeks to repair it.
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> jeeves_Moss: There are some good lappys out there that are Linux friendly
[04:34] <ome> I tried http://localhost/username and it dosnt link to public_html
[04:34] <Frogzoo> jeeves_Moss: no, nothing good there, try 'apt-cache search backup'
[04:34] <Cyberai> !sound
[04:34] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[04:34] <tritium> EnsilZah: but are you having an issue with it in ubuntu?
[04:34] <jeeves_Moss> ompaul:  do you have any other ideas on how to extract more info out of this card?
[04:34] <sobersabre> at certain point, the disk LED gets into the light, and doesn't stop.
[04:34] <mike_exe> hello
[04:34] <jrib> Cyberai: you can access it by running 'gstreamer-properties' but I believe it is meant to be replaced by system > preferences > sound
[04:35] <SonicChao> mike_exe: Hello
[04:35] <erUSUL> Cyberai: run it from terminal gstreamer-properties
[04:35] <SonicChao> mike_exe: what seems to be the problem?
[04:35] <EnsilZah> tritium: The issue i'm having is that i can't get the nVidia driver to work on ubuntu and flashing the drive should have solved that.
[04:35] <Cyberai> AHA!
[04:35] <ompaul> sobersabre, type >> free << and post it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us the URL please
[04:35] <Cyberai> Eureka! Thanks jrib, erUSUL!
[04:35] <ompaul> jeeves_Moss, if pci lspci
[04:35] <thilak123> hey guys check this out http://digg.com/software/World_s_Most_Secure_Instant_Messenger_is_here_!!/blog
[04:36] <SonicChao> thilak123: Stop.
[04:36] <jeeves_Moss> ompaul:  it's a USB
[04:36] <ompaul> thilak123, that is offtopic
[04:36] <SonicChao> thilak123: This is a support channel
[04:36] <tritium> EnsilZah: which nvidia drivers are you using?  ubuntu packaged ones?
[04:36] <sobersabre> ompaul: stop :) currently it is ok, less than 5% of swap is used.
[04:36] <monomaniacpat> tritium: that didn't entirely work. I still get a watch symbol for loading on the login and there's display problems with the login splash - when you move the mouse to the edges the image is moved about in a peculiar fashion
[04:36] <SonicChao> thilak123: Not for advertising
[04:36] <ompaul> jeeves_Moss, if pci lsusb
[04:36] <jeeves_Moss> ompaul: and it dosen't give me much with that.
[04:36] <tritium> thilak123: don't do that here, please
[04:36] <sobersabre> but the problem starts if I run in parallel: open office, firefox, evolution and start compiling.
[04:36] <partsguy> Arrrrrrr why can I get gnome-nettool to run
[04:36] <SonicChao> thilak123: If it really is that good (doubtful) post it to #ubuntu-offtopic . NOT HERE.
[04:37] <Seveas> guys, no need to do a mass-bashing....
[04:37] <SonicChao> Seveas: Sorry
[04:37] <sskroeder> hi all ... anybody here have experience in deploying ubuntu on many computers (50+) from a centralized point
[04:37] <ompaul> sobersabre, they are all ram hogs - so in that case I suggest you get more ram if you find you can't cope with your hardware
[04:37] <EnsilZah> tritium: I tried several, the one from the nvidia pages, the nvidia-glx thing from Synaptic Package Manager, the guides by that Itallian fellow who's name i can't recall at the moment.
[04:38] <Frogzoo> sskroeder: there's a project for it iirc
[04:38] <sobersabre> ompaul: 1.25 GB is not enough ?
[04:38] <tritium> EnsilZah: you're best off using the wiki page for guidance, and using ubuntu  packaged drivers
[04:38] <Seveas> sskroeder, not that many but I've done it on a 12-node centrally managed setup which can easily be extended to 50 or more
[04:38] <partsguy> even when I try to run it from the terminal I get glibc detected
[04:38] <sobersabre> :)
[04:38] <oskude> sskroeder, i just read the other day (slashdot.org i quess) about a debian automatic install tool... forgot the mane
[04:38] <sskroeder> Frogzoo:  you know the name of that project ?
[04:39] <Frogzoo> sskroeder: maybe Seveas knows the project?
[04:39] <ompaul> sobersabre, if you want to use openoffice it is a hog - firefox is a hog and compilers like to line up files to attack them I would expect some impact - what is your processor speed
[04:39] <Seveas> sskroeder, fai?
[04:39] <milan> hi there.
[04:39] <monomaniacpat> tritium: did you see my response?
[04:39] <Seveas> fai isn't bad, but you can do all fai does with standard d-i too
[04:39] <Cyberai> ok, someone needs to spank the developer that moved the Multimedia System Selector to a command line only application
[04:39] <sskroeder> Seveas: What i'm looking for is (ideally) something that can install ubuntu over PXE - that can install certain packages beyond the current "ubuntu-desktop" ones...
[04:40] <Cyberai> I've been hunting for the answer to this for 2 weeks.
[04:40] <EnsilZah> tritium: I've tried all those, i think it's just the assholes that manufactured the card saved time by using the same bios for their whole 6600 series.   I think i'll just try reinstalling ubuntu.
[04:40] <tritium> monomaniacpat: nope.  I don't believe you used my nick.
[04:40] <Cyberai> grr
[04:40] <Seveas> sskroeder, which is exactly what wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOnCluster describes 
[04:40] <genoobie> hey all....
[04:40] <tritium> EnsilZah: language!
[04:40] <sobersabre> ompaul: I have a mobile celeron 1.5GHz cpu. ( laptop )
[04:40] <monomaniacpat> tritium: that didn't entirely work. I still get a watch symbol for loading on the login and there's display problems with the login splash - when you move the mouse to the edges the image is moved about in a peculiar fashion
[04:40] <genoobie> anyone know why the live CD won't recognize an airport card?
[04:40] <QRZ> sobersabre:  You can adjust the swap threshold/useage with the, "vm.swappiness"  system control variable if you like.
[04:40] <sobersabre> I am starting to look at macbooks
[04:40] <sskroeder> Seveas: (looking) *brb*
[04:40] <milan> pls help: http://paste.flygskolan.net/108-19
[04:41] <milan> thanks alot in advance
[04:41] <sobersabre> intel duo, etc. sounds promissing...
[04:41] <tritium> monomaniacpat: you didn't explain what you wanted.  Apparently, you didnt' want to switch from kdm to gdm?
[04:41] <tritium> didn't even
[04:41] <genoobie> so that would be a no...
[04:41] <genoobie> :)
[04:41] <tritium> sobersabre: they're overheating and discoloring
[04:42] <monomaniacpat> tritium: do you understand what I wanted now?
[04:42] <genoobie> sheesh...gdm, kdm, they're all bloated...
[04:42] <sobersabre> tritium: all of them ?
[04:42] <tritium> monomaniacpat: no, you didn't really say.  What do you want instead of the watch symbol?
[04:42] <Seveas> genoobie, airport or airport extreme?
[04:43] <tritium> sobersabre: no, but enough to be causing news
[04:43] <monomaniacpat> the gnome loading circle thingy
[04:43] <oskude> milan, i heard nvidia or ati binary drivers dont have DGA
[04:43] <milan> sheesh
[04:43] <milan> k
[04:43] <milan> then i know what to do
[04:43] <tritium> !enter
[04:43] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[04:43] <oskude> milan, try to deactivate that in doom, if possible
[04:43] <sobersabre> tritium: I've already heard about this. I think this happened to the old pre-revision C models
[04:43] <milan> although im not in the mood for it
[04:43] <milan> :)
[04:43] <genoobie> Seveas, I think just airport
[04:43] <tritium> *sigh*
[04:43] <ranpha> on whihc debian is dapper based on??????????
[04:43] <oskude> milan, eeh *quake :)
[04:44] <Seveas> ranpha, on Ubuntu Breezy
[04:44] <samu2> can some PCs be bootable from "removable devide" yet not bootable from an external USB HD?
[04:44] <Frogzoo> !debian
[04:44] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded". To see more details on the relationship, see: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[04:44] <tritium> sobersabre: don't know about which revs it happens on
[04:44] <milan> mhmh
[04:44] <milan> to point is
[04:44] <milan> it worked perfectly without xgl/compiz
[04:44] <tritium> !enter > milan
[04:44] <milan> then I tried this eyecandy stuff
[04:44] <milan> then i cant play quake anymore
[04:44] <milan> :*
[04:44] <Seveas> genoobie, try lspci, if it says broadcom it's an a-extreme
[04:44] <ompaul> milan, don't use enter after a word or two use it after a full sentence this is not IM and also it spams the channel
[04:45] <oskude> milan, then deactivate xgl ;)
[04:45] <monomaniacpat> milan: people don't like it if you enter replies on more than one line
[04:45] <Seveas> genoobie, and broadcom chips require work
[04:45] <zspada15> hi
[04:45] <Seveas> hi
[04:45] <salah> hi. I plugged in a webcam with microfon and now alsa won't find my soundcard. Any ideas how to fix this please?
[04:45] <zspada15> may i ask a question?
[04:46] <ompaul> !ask
[04:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:46] <DVDx> i've installed kismet and edited the kismet.conf file but still won't start
[04:46] <Frogzoo> zspada15: any but that one ;)
[04:46] <zspada15> ok
[04:46] <Ubuntuuser9011> I need some help getting .AVI support please :)
[04:46] <Seveas> salah, system  preferences  sound
[04:46] <Seveas> !avi > Ubuntuuser9011
[04:46] <Frogzoo> DVDx: which wifi card u got?
[04:46] <DVDx> DWL-G650
[04:46] <DVDx> dlink
[04:46] <ompaul> !enter> DVDx
[04:46] <genoobie> okay
[04:46] <oskude> damn you seveas, i wanted to give this to milan http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Quake-HOWTO-6.html now he/she seems scared ;)
[04:47] <cwillu> any easy way to disable the scrolly-wheelable taskbar
[04:47] <Seveas> salah, look at the 'default sound card' at the bottom of that dialog
[04:47] <salah> Seveas, I know, but it won't find my sound card.
[04:47] <zspada15> I recieved my LiveCD today and wanted to install it on my old box, and it got to a certain point and then i saw the display looked funny and when i moved the mouse a few white dots on the screen moved
[04:47] <Ubuntuuser9011> So..If someone has some spare time please help me get .Avi support :)
[04:47] <ompaul> oskude, msg them
[04:47] <ranpha> okay , now i have this problem. i want to run azureus, amule and a wine based program called newsbin pro. Normally on wndows XP system it works together bit slow but managable. On debain sarge there was no problem as well. But on dapper i get 100% cpu when i start newsbin and if i only run azureus with amule the load on the system becomes very high. how can i fix this?
[04:47] <cwillu> !restricted > Ubuntuuser9011
[04:47] <Seveas> Ubuntuuser9011, ubotu already /msg'ed you
[04:47] <oskude> ompaul, aah, right. thnx
[04:47] <salah> !restriced > Ubuntuuser9011
[04:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about restriced
[04:47] <Ubuntuuser9011> -.- Those does not help at all
[04:47] <monomaniacpat> tritium: do you know the default gnome loading cursor? the circle with little black dots inside which spin? I want that back!
[04:47] <salah> whoops
[04:47] <salah> Ubuntuuser9011, sure it does, just install them and you'll see
[04:47] <tritium> monomaniacpat: yes, I know what you mean now.  When and how did it go waway?
[04:47] <cwillu> Ubuntuuser9011: they really do, unless you've got an additional problem
[04:48] <Invader_Zim> Hello Guys
[04:48] <DVDx> sorry ompaul i don't know what that means.
[04:48] <Ubuntuuser9011> Ok, ill give it a try
[04:48] <monomaniacpat> tritium: by installing kubunt-desktop
[04:48] <no_gatez_fan> can you software raid 6.06 on the install, is there options on it or anyone know of a web site tutorial?
[04:48] <idefix> there's no option yet of leaving messages to users in this chatbox yet is there?
[04:48] <ompaul> DVDx, it means there is a message from ubotu, and I would like you to read it
[04:48] <Invader_Zim> I just changed the root password but now I cant excess any of the programs running under System -> Administrator
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Oh GOD please help... I just tried the backup command and it is trying to backup everything... including my windows install... How do I stop tar command running under sudo su
[04:48] <Invader_Zim> is there a way to fix that?
[04:48] <DVDx> i did
[04:48] <CatalinuX> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:48] <Invader_Zim> ;'
[04:48] <Ubuntuuser9011> Using Ubuntu 6.06 "Dapper Drake" 64-bit :)
[04:48] <CatalinuX>  E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[04:48] <DVDx> that's what i meant =)
[04:48] <jrib> idefix: on freenode? memoserv
[04:48] <samu2> does anyone know anything about putting linux on an external USB HD? I have an option for removable device in the bios settings, but cant seem to find anything that sounds like USB HD. does that seem reasonable?
[04:48] <tritium> monomaniacpat: that's a bug, then.  Please file one.  Installing kubuntu-desktop should not have that effect.
[04:48] <ompaul> !rootsudo > Invader_Zim
[04:49] <jrib> CatalinuX: you need to enable multiverse
[04:49] <jrib> !multiverse > CatalinuX
[04:49] <crashzor> Jack_Sparrow, open de console whit the sudo think and typ ctrl +C
[04:49] <ompaul> Invader_Zim, please read the message from ubotu
[04:49] <Phopsy> Hello, it's me again.
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Thanks you just saved my life..
[04:49] <Phopsy> Still having sound woes.
[04:49] <CatalinuX> ok
[04:49] <ranpha> okay , now i have this problem. i want to run azureus, amule and a wine based program called newsbin pro. Normally on wndows XP system it works together bit slow but managable. On debain sarge there was no problem as well. But on dapper i get 100% cpu when i start newsbin and if i only run azureus with amule the load on the system becomes very high. how can i fix this?
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> I saw that and my mind went blank...
[04:50] <idefix> memoserv ompaul when executing diff the command comes up with the contents of the files
[04:50] <Subhuman_> ranpha, azereus is a resource-whore
[04:50] <idefix> jrib.. hmm that didn't quite work
[04:50] <ompaul> idefix, I see
[04:50] <salah> any suggestion to my problem?
[04:50] <Invader_Zim> I know that but now I cant run applications under Administration
[04:50] <ranpha> Subhuman_ only fun thing is...azureus works fine with low loads
[04:50] <Phopsy> Subhuman_: ain't that the bitter truth....
[04:50] <jrib> idefix: hmm?
[04:50] <idefix> ompaul hey I thought you were gone
[04:50] <ompaul> idefix, I can't remember actual command
[04:50] <partsguy> isn't azuraus java based
[04:50] <ompaul> idefix, I was for a while
[04:50] <jrib> idefix: oh, never mind, I see hwat happened :)
[04:51] <Subhuman_> ranpha, what is newsbin?
[04:51] <ompaul> idefix,  I will be again
[04:51] <Subhuman_> i.e - is there  a linux alt.
[04:51] <monomaniacpat> tritium: damn, OK. I did the same thing under breezy and it didn't happen. :-(
[04:51] <Subhuman_> ?
[04:51] <idefix> I'll just "research" this program a little more
[04:51] <tritium> monomaniacpat: yeah, it shouldn't have happened at all
[04:51] <ranpha> Subhuman_ a newsgroup reader and automatic downloader. Normally it hasn't that high of cpu usage...maybe a problem in wine 0.9.16
[04:52] <skybox> test
[04:52] <skybox> hmm
[04:52] <ompaul> Invader_Zim, set the machine to have no root password and then we can see what ou can do
[04:52] <Subhuman_> ranpha, why not jus use a linux rss aggregator?
[04:52] <Frogzoo> Subhuman_: apt-cache search torrent
[04:52] <Subhuman_> Frogzoo, not for me
[04:52] <Subhuman_> i use operas built in torrenter.
[04:52] <Subhuman_> since nothing can touch utorrent
[04:52] <Phopsy> Could anyone PM me with some suggestions on how to go about configuring my soundcard for use?
[04:52] <ranpha> Subhuman_ can try but i really love newsbin....:-)
[04:52] <Subhuman_> but utorrent doesnt work in wine i dont think
[04:52] <Subhuman_> Phopsy, what card is it?
[04:53] <erUSUL> Subhuman_: sure it does
[04:53] <Phopsy> Terratec Aureon 5.1 Fun
[04:53] <tritium> !sound > Phopsy
[04:53] <Phopsy> It's supported by ALSA...
[04:53] <Ropechoborra> I want to install my webcam, in the box says System Requierments: windows 98,me,2000,xp ... that means i only can use it with windows?? :(
[04:53] <Subhuman_> erUSUL, last time i tried it didnt work.
[04:53] <ranpha> what is a good torrent downloader then azureus?
[04:53] <Subhuman_> Ropechoborra, depends, what webcam is it?
[04:53] <tritium> Ropechoborra: not necessarily.  Some are supported.
[04:53] <DVDx> Frogzoo: what's the correct sources for that wifi card? any ideas?
[04:53] <Subhuman_> !easycam
[04:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about easycam
[04:53] <spatieman> what is beter as azureus ???
[04:53] <Ubuntuuser9011> I wrote inn this..
[04:53] <zspada15> hi
[04:53] <Subhuman_> Ropechoborra, there is a program called easycam whih cna installwebcams for uoi.
[04:53] <DVDx> i've got source=madwifi_g,ath0,Atheros
[04:53] <erUSUL> Subhuman_: i'm using last version with wine 0.9.16 from a repo that has the last version of wine
[04:54] <Phopsy> Tritium: Thanks, but there's no "Multimedia system selector" in my Preferences...am I being thick?
[04:54] <Subhuman_> spatieman, i'd say bittornado in linux was better.
[04:54] <Ropechoborra> Subhuman_:  Soltech JNP-w008D
[04:54] <ompaul> !chroot > Ubuntuuser9011
[04:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about chroot
[04:54] <Ubuntuuser9011> wget -c http://debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[04:54] <Ubuntuuser9011> Got the error that the file could not be found
[04:54] <tritium> Phopsy: no, that's probably a bit of outdated info
[04:55] <Frogzoo> DVDx: google's your best bet, or the kismet docs /usr/share/doc/kismet/
[04:55] <phibxr> ranpha, try rtorrent. it is in the repositories i think. it's great. type backspace and paste the URL of the torrent to start downloading.
[04:55] <erUSUL> Ubuntuuser9011: Seveas repo has w32codecs
[04:55] <Phopsy> Tritium: Yeah...Everytime I change the default soundcard in sound, it reverts back to my mobo sound.
[04:55] <tritium> Phopsy: have you tried disabling onboard sound in the BIOS??
[04:55] <CatalinuX> !easysource
[04:55] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:55] <ompaul> Ubuntuuser9011, you need to have a chroot environment if you want to run multimedia on a 64 bit - or you can install the 32bit o/s and get the same performance
[04:55] <Phopsy> Tritium: That's quite a good idea.
[04:56] <Phopsy> I'll BRB
[04:56] <bill[1] > Is it just me or is kdevelop very,very unstable in dapper?
[04:56] <monomaniacpat> tritium: how should I describe the bug? I expect someone else would have already encountered it as I have this problem when dist-upgrading aswell
[04:56] <Ubuntuuser9011> Hm....How do I install a  Chroot then?
[04:56] <ompaul> bill[1] , better to ask that in #kubuntu
[04:56] <Ropechoborra> Subhuman_: easycam what?
[04:56] <bill[1] > ompaul: well I was running it on ubuntu (gnome version)
[04:56] <tritium> monomaniacpat: not sure how to advise you there.  Do a search first, to see if the bug is already reported, as you suggest.
[04:57] <Frogzoo> monomaniacpat: best to search & find a best match, & add your comments
[04:57] <Subhuman_> Ropechoborra, just google "ubuntu easycam"
[04:57] <cello_rasp> whats the diff between text mode and OEM mode on the alternate install cd?
[04:58] <Ubuntuuser9011> -.- How do you set up a chroot?
[04:58] <tritium> Ubuntuuser9011: there should be a wiki page describing that.  Search the wiki.
[04:58] <bvali> 9011 that should be on google
[04:58] <bvali> really :D
[04:58] <Jack_Sparrow> crashzor: Thanks, I appreciate the quick response.  I was in a panic.  My Windows drive is 400 gig and mostly full, That would be one big tar  :)
[04:59] <monomaniacpat> tritium: do you know what the cursor is called?
[04:59] <ompaul> bill[1] , still no idea don't use it, but as a k* program if it has issues I imagine the others would know
[04:59] <bill[1] > ok.
[04:59] <bvali> Ubuntuuser9011: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2740&highlight=chroot
[04:59] <tritium> monomaniacpat: that particular one?  No, I don't recall
[04:59] <snoops> hmm gosh.. does anyone have any idea how to a bind a mouse button to another mouse button? Like make middle click invoke left click as well as left click invoking left click?
[05:00] <zspada15> will ubuntu support a nvidia vanta graphics card?
[05:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia
[05:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:00] <Jack_Sparrow> zspada15: Using legacy drivers I think
[05:00] <Phopsy> Okays
[05:01] <zspada15> well i think thats the reason that the live cd is making my screen go crazy
[05:01] <Phopsy> It's working a little bit
[05:01] <jrib> snoops: you can use xbindkeys along with xmacroplay
[05:01] <Phopsy> Quite quiet
[05:01] <snoops> how can I tell xmacroplay to invoke a mouse button jrib?
[05:01] <jrib> snoops: "echo ButtonPress 4 ButtonRelease 4 | xmacroplay -d 0 :0.0" , that's how I do it
[05:01] <snoops> (I've had a look at examples for xmacroplay and all I can see are ways to invoke keyboard buttons0
[05:02] <Phopsy> But I have no Toslink sound...only stereo jack.
[05:02] <Jack_Sparrow> back in a few, gonna try backing up again, this time excluding specifically that drive...
[05:02] <tritium> monomaniacpat: I have an idea
[05:03] <tritium> monomaniacpat: sudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme, and select Human
[05:05] <snoops> hmm thanks a lot jrib!
[05:05] <MisterN> hi
[05:05] <Stormx2> Hi everyone
[05:06] <Bass> what is the difference between vim-gnome and vim-gtk
[05:06] <Phopsy> Okay, does anyone know how to edit the sound settings file?
[05:06] <tritium> monomaniacpat: ping...
[05:08] <tritium> Bass: gtk apps are not necessarily gnome apps
[05:08] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[05:09] <jpjacobs> /save
[05:09] <Bass> tritium: what are the differences? whats gtk compared to gnome ?
[05:09] <wubrgamer> i need a VERY simple VERY basic NO HEADACHE mail server
[05:09] <ranpha> What is a good linux newsgroup reader htat automatic searched for files on newsgroups?
[05:09] <wubrgamer> i'd like some suggestions
[05:09] <jpjacobs> sorry my fault
[05:10] <tritium> Bass: gimp toolkit (widgets, etc.)
[05:10] <Ropechoborra> Before installing my webcam do i have to configure the usb port or something?
[05:10] <wubrgamer> what's a very very basic mail server ?
[05:10] <MisterN> Ropechoborra: no?
[05:10] <Bass> tritium: so gtk is gimp and gnome is my desktop environment
[05:11] <Phopsy> Er...is a *.conf file the same as a *.state file?
[05:11] <DerekRusso> Hi, I am very new to linux and I was wondering if someone could help me in doing some basic stuff (like installing aps)
[05:11] <tritium> Bass: no, not exactly.  You can read more at gtk.org or gnome.org
[05:12] <Frogzoo> !docs > DerekRusso
[05:12] <tritium> Phopsy: nope
[05:12] <oskude> DerekRusso, System - Administration - Synaptic package manager
[05:13] <oskude> Phopsy, not eve all *.conf files are "same"
[05:14] <techjunk> is xgl really worth it to try?
[05:15] <Phopsy> Urgh...Thanks Tritium. Yep. I have no asound.state file...
[05:15] <Phopsy> asound.conf yup, asound.state nope.
[05:15] <oskude> techjunk, i have xgl at work ;) (scale plugi is very usefull)
[05:16] <_nano_> hi, does anyone here have radeon 7500 graphics card?
[05:17] <tritium> _nano_: I used to
[05:17] <_nano_> tritium, i remember in breezy the driver was "radeon", dapper xorg has driver "ati" ..i am not able to figure out the difference :-S
[05:18] <sonny> anyone here have an INSPIRON 1100?
[05:18] <tritium> _nano_: very little.  Use ati
[05:18] <Phopsy> Tritium: Can you suggest a solution for a missing asound.state file?
[05:18] <ranpha> What is a good linux newsgroup reader htat automatic searched for files on newsgroups?
[05:18] <tritium> Phopsy: I'm not sure that you need a .state file present.
[05:18] <oskude> _nano_, radeon is an open source driver for radeon based cards...
[05:18] <Phopsy> Tritium: I do, because I need to gedit it to get the SPDIF to work
[05:19] <oskude> _nano_, and ati is open source too, for non radeon cards. fglrx is atis binary driver (with 3d acceleration)
[05:19] <_nano_> oskude, but i never installed any proprietory drivers, and I have no reason to believe that ubuntu installed the proprietory drivers by default, also the ati proprietory drivers don't support cards below 8500 radeon
[05:19] <erUSUL> _nano_: radeon supports free 3d accel for cards based on r2xx chips out of the box
[05:19] <tritium> _nano_: in fact, ati simply loads radeon, after it detects it
[05:20] <oskude> _nano_, i thought fglrx supported all radeons :/ (well, i have nvidia)
[05:20] <tritium> Phopsy: try using alsactl to save your state, then
[05:20] <_nano_> oskude, no it only supports cards above 8500, if i remember correctly
[05:20] <tritium> oskude: no, 7500 isn't suported
[05:20] <tritium> supported, even
[05:20] <oskude> roger
[05:20] <_nano_> tritium, so should i assume that the radeon driver is already present in my system?
[05:21] <tritium> _nano_: in other words, the "ati" driver is really a wrapper for the radeon driver
[05:21] <tritium> _nano_: yes
[05:21] <erUSUL> _nano_: yes. it comes by default
[05:21] <_nano_> tritium, ah i see....so I could use the latest radeon snapshot from http://dri.freedesktop.org/snapshots/
[05:21] <Phopsy> tritium: Yeah, done that.
[05:21] <tritium> _nano_: you can "man radeon" and "man ati" for more info
[05:21] <jryer> Is there an ftp client on ubuntu that works? I am using gFTP and it drops the connection constantly.
[05:21] <_nano_> tritium, ok
[05:22] <tritium> _nano_: you could try.  I never bothered
[05:22] <tritium> Phopsy: if that doesn't work, then I'm not sure.  I'd ask crimsun when you see him.
[05:22] <Phopsy> Tritium: Okays, thanks :D
[05:24] <tritium> Take care, all.  I'm away...
[05:25] <tanek> im about to install wni x64 ed, how do i get grub back to mbr after that install?
[05:25] <emale> hello
[05:26] <GutzaNicolae> why doesn`t "make" cmd work for installing ?
[05:26] <oskude> tanek, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:26] <tanek> oskude: thx m8
[05:26] <oskude> tanek, ubotu told me that ;)
[05:26] <Frogzoo> GutzaNicolae: sudo probly
[05:27] <GutzaNicolae> i`m allready root
[05:27] <johlin> I followed a guide on the forums yesterday on how to build a kernel yourself. Now afterwards, I have one kernel_headers-version_numbers.deb, kernel_image-version_numbers.deb and one fglrx-kernel-version_numbers.deb. Which ones should I install and in what order?
[05:27] <jrib> GutzaNicolae: in general you want to use an APT frontend to install things, but I'll have ubotu send you compiling info
[05:27] <jrib> !compile > GutzaNicolae
[05:27] <DerekRusso> I have a question.  I found that I installed a program I want to use, but I'm not sure how to open it.  I can't find it in any dropdown menu, and I don't have an alias for it, I'm not sure what the path to it is
[05:28] <jrib> DerekRusso: what program?
[05:28] <DerekRusso> deskbar-applet
[05:28] <DerekRusso> I'm not sure that i want to use it, I'm just trying ot get used to installing things
[05:28] <jrib> DerekRusso: right click on your panel, add to panel, and add the deskbar
[05:29] <fujiko> ciao
[05:29] <Tazikas> I upgraded to edgy today and got this error: error activating xkg configuration <...>
[05:29] <Tazikas> is it a known problem?
[05:30] <oskude> Tazikas, edgy is in #ubuntu+1 (AFAIK)
[05:30] <Tazikas> tried googling around, but didn't find anything
[05:30] <Tazikas> hm, ok
[05:30] <holycow> hi guys
[05:30] <johlin> No one who knows about my kernel question?
[05:30] <DerekRusso> I don't see the deskbar listed anywhere
[05:30] <Ropechoborra> Some program like gaim that supports video conference??
[05:31] <oskude> Ropechoborra, applications - internet - ekiga ?
[05:31] <holycow> what is the preffered brand of scanner ... hp does great with printers but is hp the right choice for scanner too? or is it epson?
[05:31] <holycow> !scanner
[05:31] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[05:31] <bill[1] > god no hp scanners
[05:32] <Ropechoborra> oskude:  ty
[05:32] <holycow> bill[1] , really eh?
[05:32] <Uuge> Hello
[05:32] <Uuge> I have a network config problem
[05:32] <DerekRusso> do I have ot do something to get the deskbar to show up as a panel to add?
[05:32] <bill[1] > well, I'm not sure how they do on linux.  On windows they come with like 300 meg installers and what not.... They've broken more then one machine with pure bloat.
[05:33] <top222> There is no "Connect to other wireless network" in my network manager
[05:33] <holycow> ah
[05:33] <top222> I mean, the menu of the network manager's applet does not contain such itme
[05:33] <Frogzoo> holycow: I'm guessing as HP is right behind linux, drivers should be good
[05:33] <jrib> DerekRusso: after installing the package, it should be listed in the accessories section of the "add to panel" dialog
[05:34] <Drakonik> Is there anyway to get wget to work with wildcards without using FTP?
[05:34] <holycow> Frogzoo, i would like to use hp, i like their printers
[05:34] <bill[1] > is there a way to tell Xiemera capeable applications to ignore it?
[05:34] <DerekRusso> I just closed it and opened it again and it is there now, heh, not sure what happened but I won't argue
[05:34] <DerekRusso> thanks a lot
[05:34] <bill[1] > They do make some nice lasers
[05:34] <vincenz> How do you make ubuntue start in rnulevel 2?
[05:34] <vincenz> runlevel 2 even
[05:34] <oskude> holycow, i got a hp ps1510 and it works like a charm (printer&scanner)
[05:34] <holycow> okay time to go to the store with this compatability list and see what happens
[05:34] <Frogzoo> holycow: but don't take my word for it - I don't scan
[05:34] <holycow> oskude, ya? k.
[05:34] <bvali> vincenz: /etc/inittab
[05:34] <holycow> Frogzoo, lol
[05:34] <oskude> holycow, soryy, it was a hp psc1215
[05:34] <holycow> okay was curios if there is a consensus
[05:35] <holycow> i think this means the scanner field is just a mess and you gotta walk in with a compatability list
[05:35] <holycow> thx!
[05:35] <vincenz> bvali: thank you
[05:35] <holycow> later
[05:35] <top222> Do network-admin and gnome-network-manager cooperate, or should I use only one at a time?
[05:35] <vincenz> bvali: does it consume less energy?
[05:35] <bvali> hehe you're funny
[05:36] <_nano_> tritium, changing "ati" to "radeon" worked...it didn't fail
[05:36] <Ropechoborra> oskude: i mean some program wich i can use with my MSN account... (like de gaim, but it doesnt have video conference option =/ )
[05:36] <Subhuman> Ropechoborra, mercury messenger
[05:36] <Subhuman> or aMSN
[05:36] <jryer> Is there an ftp client on ubuntu that works? I am using gFTP and it drops the connection constantly
[05:36] <oskude> Ropechoborra, sorry, i dont have any idea about MSN...
[05:36] <dudleh> my usb ethernet adapter stopped being recognised during dist-upgrade, there a package which handles that which i can attempt to reinstall?
[05:36] <bvali> try mc jryer
[05:36] <top222> vincenz: "runlevel" is a name for a set of system services associated with the name or number of the runlevel
[05:36] <bvali> Midnight Commander
[05:36] <Ropechoborra> Subhuman: ty
[05:37] <Ropechoborra> oskude:  ty anyway! :)
[05:37] <jryer> bvali what is mc?
[05:37] <_nano_> what's the xorg modules directory in ubuntu?
[05:37] <top222> vincenz: It can also mean singe user - multiuser - multiuser with X, depending on the distribution
[05:37] <bvali> do you happen to know Norton Commander?
[05:37] <bvali> the old one
[05:37] <vincenz> top222: I mean the nonX single user one
[05:37] <Phopsy> Tritium: Thanks for your help!
[05:37] <bvali> it's like that... and ftp works :)
[05:37] <skavenge> mc is midnight commander
[05:37] <Phopsy> Tritium: I got it working now :D.
[05:37] <top222> vincenz: I think they all consume the same amount of energy
[05:38] <vincenz> top222: on a laptop?
[05:38] <top222> vincenz: Yes.  Power saving and runlevels are not related
[05:38] <top222> vincenz: Only the set of services started for the runlevel
[05:39] <vincenz> top222: well I would assume not running X to be a huge gain
[05:39] <top222> vincenz: Of course, if you by coincidence include something that uses much CPU to a runlevel, then that runlevel uses more energy
[05:39] <top222> vincenz: After X has started and you are doing nothing, and have chosen the "blank screen" screensaver, I don't think there is much difference
[05:40] <ubuntu_> does anyone know of a good howto on getting Xgl to work on dapper??
[05:40] <erUSUL> !xgl
[05:40] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:40] <top222> !madwifi
[05:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:40] <top222> !wpa
[05:41] <oskude> ubuntu_, i tried allso many tuts from wiki, but the solution was to remove(rename) /usr/bin/X and then linking /usr/bin/Xgl to the old X
[05:41] <ubuntu_> !xgl
[05:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:41] <cougem> do u guys think xgl is actually worth the switch? it looks nice but is it actually worth the extra resources?
[05:41] <oskude> cougem, its unstable.
[05:41] <bill[1] > Is there a way to disable xinermera on a per application basis (AKA You want something to spam both monitors)
[05:42] <Foobal> cougem: not yet. there's no good reason/application really to run it. some day perhaps.
[05:42] <oskude> cougem, but i use xgl all the time at work :)
[05:42] <Drakonik> How could I use wget to download every image from a certain directory on a website?
[05:42] <dudleh> my usb ethernet adapter stopped being recognised during dist-upgrade, there a package which handles that which i can attempt to reinstall?
[05:43] <top222> Is there a forum where I could post a longer question so that knowledgeable persons could answer at their leisure?
[05:43] <bill[1] > well, if its all on the same webpage you could use downloadthemall or something like that, its an FF extension.
[05:43] <Foobal> Drakonik: use -r to fetch recursively the whole directory. man wget
[05:43] <oskude> !forum
[05:43] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[05:43] <Drakonik> Hm.
[05:43] <top222> Thanks
[05:43] <Samuli^> Can someone walk me through of grub re-install?
[05:43] <bill[1] > you can block wget from the directory listing though
[05:43] <Frogzoo> !grub > Samuli^
[05:44] <bill[1] > it kindof depends what your trying to do
[05:44] <Samuli^> Frogzoo, I was just about to add that firefox won't start from the live cd so links are of no use :)
[05:45] <ubuntu_> dfklkhlhkdklssjdkdjgklgklskkahskjsjflfg,     kqoepwoeq	wkjekrj
[05:45] <Samuli^> other thing is that I have only breezy live cd while my installed system is dapper. I don't know if that is of consequence.
[05:45] <ubuntu_> frghjggvrggg
[05:45] <ubuntu_> yh
[05:45] <ubuntu_> tg
[05:45] <ubuntu_> t
[05:45] <ubuntu_> gt
[05:45] <ubuntu_> gt
[05:45] <ubuntu_> gtgttgtgthgy
[05:45] <ubuntu_> gyhy
[05:45] <yggdrasil_> retard
[05:45] <ubuntu_> hy
[05:45] <Drakonik> No good. It downloaded index.html
[05:45] <ubuntu_> yh
[05:45] <ubuntu_> h
[05:45] <Drakonik> And stopped.
[05:46] <Homer> somebody kick him
[05:46] <canard> Can XFCE work with Xgl?
[05:46] <heretic> imbrandon:
[05:46] <Hobbsee> ubuntu_: please stop spamming
[05:47] <NightwishFreak> >	hello everyone! i just have a quick question. If im installing Ubuntu from an amd64 cd, will i still have to install a smp kernel?
[05:47] <erUSUL> NightwishFreak: do you have a X2 cpu (dualcore)?
[05:47] <ubuntu_> Hobbsee: sorry, it was my little brother, he got a hold of the keyboard
[05:47] <Homer> does anyone know if there is a quick way to downgrade ubuntu?
[05:47] <Hobbsee> ubuntu_: fair enough
[05:47] <NightwishFreak> yeah. an opteron 165
[05:48] <erUSUL> NightwishFreak: cat /proc/cpuinfo to see if the kernel recognize the two cpu's if not you have to install a smp one
[05:48] <NightwishFreak> cool thank
[05:48] <NightwishFreak> s
[05:49] <pjay_> hey all, im stuck, trying to install steam but i dont know which wine i should be building
[05:49] <Thib_G> Hello
[05:49] <Thib_G> I bought Doom 3
[05:49] <Thib_G> And I installed it on my ubuntu Dapper Drake
[05:49] <oskude> !enter
[05:49] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[05:50] <Spec> Is there any way to 'vnc' one app (firefox)?
[05:50] <cwillu> how easy is it to change the top level menus?  Put system and places inside of applications...
[05:51] <cwillu> Alacarte does seem to let me do it
[05:51] <Thib_G> The game run fast in high quality, but, after a movie or a loading, it seems to make the system extremly slow
[05:51] <cwillu> Spec: for what ultimate purpose?
[05:51] <Spec> presentation
[05:51] <Spec> at big conference for ubuntu :p
[05:51] <Foobal> Spec: take a look at www.nomachine.com (that's what I'd use)
[05:51] <Spec> yes
[05:51] <Spec> i was planning on it
[05:51] <Spec> nomachine with x11vnc
[05:52] <Spec> laptop -> remote server(firefox)   <-- someone elses laptop
[05:52] <Spec> basically... :p
[05:52] <addy_> has anyone successfully installed their own kernel with LTS? when i build and install i get 'devfs: unknown file type' upon boot
[05:53] <empiric> hi all
[05:53] <empiric> i want to install hard raid driver on boot before installing kubuntu
[05:53] <empiric> i have driver in floppy
[05:54] <empiric> problem is how i tel kubuntu to fetch raid driver from floopy
[05:54] <Thib_G> Nobody knows why doom 3 make the system ( including doom 3 himself ) extremly slow after a movie or a loading ?
[05:54] <ardchoille> Thib_G: got the video drivers installed?
[05:54] <Samuli^> So.. Can anyone help me with the grub re-install? I had help, but the guy is apparently sleeping.. :/
[05:54] <cwillu> addy_: did you install the filesystem modules, or create an initrd image?
[05:54] <Lantern> I'm having some trouble installing Ubuntu 6.06, keeps on freezing up.
[05:54] <Thib_G> ardchoille: Yes, the game, before a movie or a loading works fine in high quality
[05:55] <GaiaX11> How do i translate an English page into another language using mozilla? Is there a moz plugin for that?
[05:55] <addy_> i've done a build with standard config, installed and installed all modules as well as create new initrd
[05:55] <ardchoille> Thib_G: ok, video drivers was just a thought :)
[05:56] <cwillu> addy_ I'm running a custom ck kernel just fine;  by lts you mean dapper, right?
[05:56] <heretic> imbrandon:  you there buddy
[05:57] <addy_> 2.6.15-25-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:34:19 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:57] <Thib_G> Nobody ? So, I've bought it for nothing ? :(
[05:58] <cwillu> Thib_G: is it native or wine?
[05:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^:   Try the Super Grub Disk ISO
[05:58] <Thib_G> native
[05:58] <addy_> cwillu: sorry - called into meeting - gotto go...
[05:58] <Samuli^> Jack_Sparrow, I can't burn cd's right now as the only working system I have is with live-cd and only one drive.
[05:58] <empiric> hai
[05:59] <Samuli^> cd-drive
[05:59] <empiric> any one knowa
[05:59] <no_gatez_fan> i set up my software raid, cant find a place to add a mount point to it, any ideas?
[05:59] <pjay_> im trying to install steam but i dont know which wine i should be using, have one which i got working with winetools but wont run steam and i have the winex files ready to compile but im unsure if i need to remove other wine bedore i do so
[05:59] <jrib> Thib_G: if you paid for it, the company probably provides some kind of support that you can contact.  They probably no more about the issue you are having
[06:00] <zspada15> I am completely confused about how to make my video card not look like the screen is melting during the setup of ubuntu
[06:00] <heretic> OMG! Can you run steam on linux?
[06:00] <heretic> how :IO
[06:00] <pjay_> with cedega
[06:01] <pjay_> which you pay for
[06:01] <heretic> i can download that lol
[06:01] <pjay_> or you can use the free one which is unsuported
[06:01] <heretic> I run a warez site :D
[06:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: How did you mess up the grub
[06:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: How did grub get messed up? (More Polite)
[06:02] <Samuli^> Jack_Sparrow, Firstly by installing windows and then apparently by unsuccesful recovery attempt.
[06:02] <pjay_> fixmbr?
[06:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[06:02] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:02] <Thib_G> I'm thinking about a memory leak
[06:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: and you read through that
[06:02] <heretic> is it easy to configure cedegra
[06:02] <Samuli^> Jack_Sparrow, Firefox won't boot from the live-cd so links are no use.
[06:02] <GaiaX11> Is there a mozilla channel in freenode?
[06:02] <pjay_> how so?
[06:03] <zspada15> GaiaX11: yes
[06:03] <zspada15> #mozilla
[06:03] <Thib_G> but it can't be in the doom 3 binary himself
[06:03] <pjay_> erm heretic i havent had much luck spent 5 hours trying so far
[06:03] <Samuli^> Jack_Sparrow, Otherwise I would have googled it in the first place. Now I'm dependable on some input here :)
[06:03] <Thib_G> so, what libs are used by DOOM 3 ?
[06:03] <Thib_G> I'll try to reinstall them
[06:04] <Thib_G> ( maybe an old install of compiz, with the compiz deports replace my libs )
[06:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^:  Did you do this earlier ?type $ grub-install /dev/hdaX where X is your Ubuntu root install.
[06:06] <erUSUL> Thib_G: you can know with 'ldd $(which doom3)' (or whatever is the name of the executable of doom3)
[06:06] <Samuli^> Jack_Sparrow, No, But I'll try that. Thanks.
[06:06] <Samuli^> Didn't know there was a command grub-install
[06:06] <Thib_G> " not a dynamic executable"
[06:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^:  Do you know your install location
[06:07] <Samuli^> Jack_Sparrow, Sure. It's on the hda1
[06:07] <erUSUL> Thib_G: see if it's a script or something
[06:07] <erUSUL> Thib_G: you can know with 'file $(which doom3)'
[06:07] <Thib_G> a script
[06:08] <Thib_G> thib@thibaut:/usr/share/games/doom3$ ldd doom.x86
[06:08] <Thib_G>         not a dynamic executable
[06:08] <Thib_G> thib@thibaut:/usr/share/games/doom3$ file doom.x86
[06:08] <Thib_G> doom.x86: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), for GNU/Linux 2.0.30, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.0.30, stripped
[06:08] <erUSUL> Thib_G: look inside the script to see the exec it calls
[06:08] <pablo_> A Y ALGUIEN
[06:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[06:08] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:09] <erUSUL> !es > pablo_
[06:09] <pablo_> OLA JUKI
[06:10] <Thib_G> ldd says that is not a dynamic executable, file says the contrary...
[06:10] <erUSUL> Thib_G: it uses his own libs not the one from the system afaics
[06:10] <Thib_G> ok...
[06:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Does the Ubuntu default install on non-dual boot systems use hda1 or 2 or 3  ?
[06:10] <Thib_G> But I've never heard of this problem... :(
[06:11] <wastrel> yup
[06:11] <erUSUL> pablo_: para de gritar en espaol aqu vete a #ubuntu-es. y usa minusculas por favor
[06:11] <Ropechoborra> i can rezise safetly my disks with gpart?
[06:11] <pablo_> ke pasa
[06:11] <m0gsi> Hey all i have a wifi problem , i have a f5d7050 wifi card (RT73 chipset) using ndiswrapper it works but after about 10-30mins it just disconnects from the access point.
[06:11] <Ropechoborra> *resize
[06:11] <pablo_> nene me estas vacilando
[06:11] <^richiefrich> Ropechoborra u can try
[06:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra: If that is NTFS, be sure youhave a backup
[06:11] <Seveas> pablo_, #ubuntu-es
[06:12] <ardchoille> !es > pablo_
[06:12] <m0gsi> Then i have to disconnect
[06:12] <erUSUL> Ropechoborra: playing with parts is by definition risky...
[06:12] <Ropechoborra> MMM
[06:12] <Ropechoborra> Better use the partition magic
[06:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Better choice
[06:12] <wildman> Ropechoborra: nice nick name... is your dog drunk?
[06:12] <kaot> m0gsi: you getting anything in your logs when that happens?
[06:12] <^richiefrich> thats a better choice
[06:12] <Ropechoborra> wildman: beer is his first choice
[06:13] <Ropechoborra> :P
[06:13] <wildman> Ropechoborra: hehe :) saludos desde Buenos Aires
[06:13] <wildman> ;)
[06:13] <Ropechoborra> :o
[06:13] <m0gsi> No the strange thing is my old wifi card did it before i broke it and it gaves lot of error messages , but nothing shows now in dmesg
[06:13] <Bass> any good text editors apart from gedit with syntax highlighting and such?
[06:13] <Ropechoborra> 400 KM no es lejitos... y podes venir en verano
[06:13] <Ropechoborra> Mar del plata ;)
[06:13] <erUSUL> Ropechoborra: but doing so with PM is even riskier ;). i've used gpart (parted) and never seen any problem but as usual there is no warranty make backups
[06:13] <wildman> ah... Mardel???? :)
[06:13] <Seveas> Ropechoborra, wildman please stick to english and on-topic in here
[06:13] <maddash> I have a couple of *.daa file lying around; is there any way for me to open them in ubuntu?
[06:13] <wildman> Ropechoborra: we'll see, a blind man said
[06:13] <wildman> Seveas: happy? ;)
[06:14] <Seveas> maddash, daa?
[06:14] <Ropechoborra> Seveas: he was hellping me to translate something
[06:14] <kupo> hello channel
[06:14] <wildman> Ropechoborra: let's not offtopic anymore ;)
[06:14] <Ropechoborra> Ok :P
[06:14] <kupo> is anyone familiar with setting up ubuntu on old hardware?
[06:14] <m0gsi> So any idea
[06:14] <heretic> imbrandon:  you there buddy?
[06:14] <johlin> I've got 3 packages since I compiled a new kernel, kernel-image, kernel-headers and fglrx-kernel, all of them .deb. Which ones should I install and in what order?
[06:14] <Seveas> kupo, how old?
[06:14] <wildman> kupo: how 'old'?
[06:14] <kupo> pretty damn old
[06:14] <wastrel> bass try gvim maybe :] 
[06:15] <pjay_> anyone got cedega cvs working on ubuntu?
[06:15] <heretic> does anyone have imbrandoms msn?
[06:15] <kupo> I'll give you the specs in a minute
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> kupo: start with your specs
[06:15] <heretic> because i lost it when i restarted
[06:15] <kupo> its a compaq presario 1725s
[06:15] <kaot> m0gsi: not really
[06:15] <Seveas> johlin, kernel-image is the actual kernelm fglrx-kernel is the fglrx driver - you'd need at least those
[06:15] <Bass> wastrel: its pretty advanced and a handful to learn how to use when your also learning php
[06:15] <maddash> Seveas: yes, they're CD images (akin to iso, with some added compression), but I don't remember how I made them in the first place
[06:15] <johlin> Seveas: does it matter in what order I install them?
[06:16] <Seveas> johlin, install them simultaneously 
[06:16] <kupo> Jack_Sparrow: I'm  hoping to learn how to speed up boot times and running basic progz
[06:16] <erUSUL> johlin: the order you named it seems sensible ;)
[06:16] <kupo> as this will mainly be just an internet machine
[06:16] <wildman> kupo: should we google for it?
[06:16] <Thib_G> Hum...
[06:16] <Seveas> kupo, you should look at xubuntu
[06:16] <johlin> erUSUL: okay. Seveas: by using dpkg -i package1 package2?
[06:16] <Jack_Sparrow> kupo: did you try the livecd
[06:16] <wildman> kupo: or will u plz tell us at least RAM and disk size? :)
[06:16] <Seveas> it's more suitable for older machines
[06:16] <Seveas> johlin, yeah
[06:16] <kupo> as soon as i boot my laptop I'll look it up wildman
[06:16] <Thib_G> I have a libglu1-mesa lib newer that the dapper version
[06:17] <kupo> Jack_Sparrow: actually never got it to load
[06:17] <Thib_G> maybe installed with compiz
[06:17] <kupo> but managed to do an install
[06:17] <Thib_G> how to downgrade it ?
[06:17] <kupo> I'm ircing from the install machine as we speak
[06:17] <Seveas> maddash, http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=daa&Search=Search
[06:17] <maddash> Seveas: I was hoping that ubuntu had native support for it, much like the way I can open iso's w/file-roller
[06:17] <pjay_> anyone got cedega cvs working on ubuntu?
[06:17] <Seveas> maddash, sounds like something windows-only
[06:17] <pjay_> or grapvine
[06:17] <Seveas> !cedega
[06:17] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[06:18] <ajay_> how can i change the splash screen?
[06:18] <ajay_> not usplash
[06:18] <Seveas> !splash
[06:18] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[06:18] <ajay_> thanks Seveas
[06:18] <wildman> kupo: Compaq Presario 1725S (White) 17 in.CRT Conventional Monitor monitors specifications
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> maddash: Power Iso in windows only
[06:18] <wildman> kupo: I guess u have the monitor model, not the computer one...
[06:18] <snikker> when i make a .deb pakege for the kernel, i've got this error message: "dpkg-gencontrol: error: package kernel-image-2.6.15.7-ubuntu1 not in control info" how fix it?
[06:18] <kupo> yeah wildman
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> maddash: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2288114#post2288114
[06:19] <kupo> the monitor sez 1725s
[06:19] <Seveas> !kernel > snikker
[06:19] <kupo> and the tower sez 4850 wildman
[06:19] <wildman> better :)
[06:19] <wildman> checking...
[06:19] <kupo> damn you're beating me
[06:19] <wildman> ;)
[06:19] <johlin> Seveas: http://pastebin.ca/79634
[06:20] <mortal> which package contains the rgb.txt file?
[06:20] <heretic> amaroK....anyone use it?
[06:20] <kupo> aha got it !
[06:20] <heretic> How do i get mp3 support :(
[06:20] <wildman> kupo: see? u won me this time ;)
[06:20] <wildman> kupo: list the specs plz
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !tell heretic about !mp3
[06:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about !mp3
[06:20] <heretic> !mp3
[06:20] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !tell heretic about mp3
[06:21] <snikker> Seveas: thanks, i try with this new istructions
[06:21] <kupo> what are some commands I could run to tell me wildman ?
[06:21] <neighborlee> anyone know workaround for VLC installation ??
[06:21] <_Luks> hiya, i've installed JAVA SDK Package and the java's path is not set. how do i set this ?
[06:21] <_Luks> the java's bin and lib is in /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5sun. .... HELP MEEE
[06:22] <wastrel> mortal:  sudo apt-get install apt-file;  apt-file update; apt-file search rgb.txt
[06:22] <cbx333> hi all
[06:22] <wildman> kupo: which OS on it?
[06:22] <wastrel> er, apt-file update needs sudo too
[06:22] <cbx333> in desperate need of some help
[06:22] <johlin> Someone: http://pastebin.ca/79634
[06:22] <kupo> ubuntu breezy badger
[06:22] <heretic> i know about the free formats, but i just want to enable mp3 support in amaroK
[06:22] <cbx333> on dapper, fresh install
[06:22] <wildman> check the files in /proc/ kupo
[06:22] <erUSUL> johlin: the error msg is from de flgrx package? if so it is safe to go ahead and install it
[06:23] <kupo> gotcha wildman
[06:23] <cbx333> it won't mount the partition I have set as /home/
[06:23] <_Luks> how do i set java's path ??
[06:23] <cbx333> claiming it is already mounted or the mount point is busy
[06:23] <cbx333> any ideas?
[06:23] <wildman> kupo: /proc/cpuinfo, /proc/meminfo, etc...
[06:23] <johlin> erUSUL: yeah, I installed fglrx, kernel image and kernel headers at the same time. I'll ignore it then
[06:23] <kupo> wildman: P3 300mghz
[06:23] <wildman> _Luks: path or classpath? or both?
[06:23] <wildman> kupo: and ram?
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> cbx333: did you ever run that script?
[06:24] <erUSUL> johlin: but is the first time you install this kernel, is not it?
[06:24] <kupo> 45880kb == ?
[06:24] <kupo> 50 mb ram?
[06:24] <wildman> ouch!
[06:24] <_Luks> wildman: hiya, i've installed JAVA SDK Package and the java's path is not set. how do i set this ?
[06:24] <_Luks>  the java's bin and lib is in /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5sun. .... HELP MEEE
[06:24] <Draconicus> What's the command to set up a new network interface at eth0?
[06:24] <pussfeller> is the standard dapper install cd a LIVE cd, ie one i can use so reinstall grub after i install windows
[06:24] <wildman> yes, a bit less, 48MB
[06:24] <kupo> jeebus
[06:24] <cbx333> Jack_Sparrow: can you give me the name of it agaoin
[06:24] <johlin> erUSUL: well, I installed the same kernel yesterday, but I had problems with it and removed it.
[06:24] <kupo> that would be why its running so damn slow
[06:24] <erUSUL> kupo: try puppy linux, or dsl
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> diskmounter
[06:24] <kupo> erUSUL: perhaps
[06:24] <kupo> but that means a reinstall
[06:24] <_Luks> wildman: when i compile a code, it gives a lot of error about path
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[06:24] <wildman> _Luks: I had to run a command to set Sun's 1.5 as default, but cannot remember :-|, I took it from some of the excellent wikis at Ubuntu site...
[06:25] <kupo> and a potential mebbe on not recognizing this wireless pci card
[06:25] <wildman> !tell _Luks about java
[06:25] <erUSUL> kupo: i thought you were installing for the first time
[06:25] <kupo> no its installed already
[06:25] <kupo> just want to speed it up
[06:25] <johlin> Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ..., where should I put them?
[06:25] <Ropechoborra> Im trying to run partition magic but it says Partition's drive letters cannot be identified ... what is that ?? =S
[06:25] <Jack_Sparrow> kupo buy ram
[06:25] <wildman> kupo: add more ram
[06:25] <kupo> hhaha!
[06:25] <_Luks> wildman: do you wonder that ubuntu's wiki have about this ?
[06:25] <kupo> perhaps
[06:25] <wildman> kupo: or use xubuntu, or one of the mini distros suggested above
[06:25] <kupo> xubuntu would be smaller?
[06:26] <mc__> wildman, they are to fat
[06:26] <POVaddct> xubuntu rocks
[06:26] <kupo> i already install xfce on it
[06:26] <mc__> kung, but still to fat imho
[06:26] <kupo> i love xfce
[06:26] <kupo> but this is for a non technical family
[06:26] <wildman> _Luks: yes, somewhere it's explained how to make sun's newly-licensed jdk1.5 the default one...
[06:26] <erUSUL> kupo: use a bare wm like fluxbox
[06:26] <mc__> kupo, you could try RULE or build something yourself
[06:26] <ompaul> kupo, almost too big for 50 megs
[06:26] <kupo> so I want to just set up some firefox and gaim icons and thats it
[06:26] <POVaddct> kupo: xfce is for non-techs i think
[06:26] <cbx333> Jack_Sparrow: that script did nothing
[06:26] <wildman> kupo: anything u set will 'kill' 48MB of RAM...
[06:26] <kupo> POVaddct: I never figured out how to get icons in the desktop
 wildman you may be right
[06:27] <POVaddct> kupo: huh?
[06:27] <Jack_Sparrow> cbx no error, no asking about ntfs?
[06:27] <mc__> kupo, that is not possible with xfce
[06:27] <wildman> kupo: I'd try to get at least 64MB more...
[06:27] <Jack_Sparrow> cbx333: had to do something
[06:27] <POVaddct> kupo: you talking about xfce4 or xfce4?
[06:27] <kupo> mc__: I find that incredibly frustrating
[06:27] <Ropechoborra> Im trying to run partition magic but it says Partition's drive letters cannot be identified ... what is that ?? =S
[06:27] <Jack_Sparrow> one or the other
[06:27] <kupo> POVaddct: ?
[06:27] <cbx333> no, cos tehre are no ntfs/fat 32/hpfs paritions on the disk
[06:27] <^richiefrich> kupo then why not lighter..    ion3 wmii
[06:27] <mc__> kupo, icons are not good,but if you really want some have a look of idesk
[06:27] <ompaul> kupo, if you want the machine to fly get another 64megs of ram and use DSL or some such
[06:27] <_Luks> wildman: i think that i have to edit a file. Is it '/etc/jvm' ?
[06:28] <mc__> kupo, idesk provides icons and you can use it with xfce
[06:28] <kupo> ompaul: what package manager would dsl use?
[06:28] <kupo> mc__: thanks mc__
[06:28] <Draconicus> I'm in a hurry. I've reformatted my friend's very broken Dapper flight 4 installation with the new release. Apparently the network configured fine in the alternative install, but there is no profile for eth0 with ifup/down and soforth. How do I automatically configure an interface for eth0?
[06:28] <kupo> haha
[06:28] <mc__> kupo, mydsl packages
[06:28] <mc__> kung, np
[06:28] <ompaul> kupo, it is debian based so apt
[06:28] <wildman> _Luks: maybe, lemme double check plz
[06:28] <kupo> oh excellent
[06:28] <POVaddct> kupo: in xfce3, icons on the desktop are just iconified running apps. in xfce4 you can choose if icons on the desktop are starters (like in windoze) or iconified apps.
[06:28] <Ropechoborra> better use gpart =/
[06:28] <mc__> ompaul, afaik only dpkg is installed on default
[06:28] <holoton1> I have a network shared SMB folder that I can access like smb://servername/sharedfolder/ . How do I symlink that shared folder to my home directory? Also note that this is in a mobile environment (local computer is a laptop), so the shared folder won't always be available, and I've heard that can cause problems if you don't set it up correctly
[06:29] <wildman> _Luks: yes, if you add Sun's on top, java -version should then show it as default (and prove it's on PATH)
[06:29] <ompaul> mc__, for dsl -- I thought I used apt-get on it --- uggggg
[06:29] <ompaul> mc__, qemu to the rescue :)
[06:30] <Draconicus> Come on, people! It's a very easy question and you're all ignoring it because of the fact that anyone could answer it! I can't finish this install without ethernet, and my friend is going to get pissed off and go back to Windows if I don't hurry up!
[06:30] <ompaul> mc__, nearly booted
[06:31] <holoton1> Draconicus: Being rude won't help get your question answered quickly, nor will the threat of someone "going back to windows"
[06:31] <erUSUL> Draconicus: System> Admin>network?
[06:31] <ompaul> Draconicus, so what I would do is System Administration Networking
[06:31] <kupo> hey guys I'll mess around with this some more
[06:31] <Draconicus> I'm looking for a command.
[06:31] <kupo> thanks for all the suggestions
[06:31] <POVaddct> Draconicus: these "help me or i go back to windows" statements just suck.
[06:31] <Draconicus> Regardless, I'll try that.
[06:31] <wildman> kupo: good luck!
[06:32] <_Luks> wildman: it shows GNU libgjc
[06:32] <Paladine> Draconicus, Tidy your Room!!!
[06:32] <cbx33> Jack_Sparrow, anymore ideas?
[06:32] <Paladine> commanding enough?
[06:32] <wildman> _Luks: let's go pvt
[06:32] <skavenge> let em go back
[06:32] <erUSUL> Draconicus: what type of network card it is? uses dhcp?
[06:32] <Noeve> Back.
[06:32] <Jack_Sparrow> cbx33: I just cant see how the installation of XP would let you create an extended partition with an ext3 partition in it.. Something just does NOT make sense
[06:32] <Draconicus> POVaddct: I'm not going back to Windows. My friend might. I was hoping it'd get somebody's attention... Nevermind. Explaining myself is pointless.
[06:33] <wildman> _Luks: can you see another tab open in your irc client?
[06:33] <cbx33> Jack_Sparrow, it didn't
[06:33] <cbx33> I created the ext3 partition afterwards
[06:33] <Jack_Sparrow> cbx33: That is exactly what you told me earlier
[06:33] <Draconicus> erUSUL: As previously stated twice, this machine already ran Dapper flight 4. No changes have been made hardware-wise.
[06:33] <cbx33> just using the original extended partion created by windows
[06:33] <cbx33> it was reformatted to be ext3 when I installed ubuntu
[06:33] <Jack_Sparrow> cbx33: and I asked what program created the ext3
[06:34] <cbx33> the ubuntu installation
[06:34] <erUSUL> Draconicus: try dhclient eth0
[06:34] <ompaul> kupo, mc__  dsl is dpkg
[06:34] <ompaul> :-(
[06:34] <_Luks> wildman: yes, can you see me ?
[06:34] <wildman> _Luks:
[06:34] <wildman> /usr/lib/jvm/ia32-java-1.5.0-sun
[06:34] <wildman> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Ubuntu install made an unused ext3?
[06:34] <wildman> _Luks: nope, looks like u don't have a registered nick, so no pvt chat possible...
[06:35] <cbx33> no, there was a parition that was ntfs, that I asked it to reformat to ext3 and mount as /home/
[06:35] <Jack_Sparrow> cbx33: on the extended windows partiton?
[06:35] <_Luks> wildman: how do i register ?
[06:35] <cbx33> as a logical drive within the extended partition
[06:35] <wildman> _Luks: see above plz, those are my 1st two lines in /etc/jvm on this x86_64 system
[06:35] <wildman> _Luks: just sown u two lines above, no need to go pvt after all ;)
[06:35] <_Luks> okidoki
[06:36] <POVaddct> Draconicus: run "sudo dhclient3 eth0" and see if you get an ip address
[06:36] <wildman> sown -> shown
[06:36] <Jack_Sparrow> cbx33: is there any dat on that partition?
[06:36] <Jack_Sparrow> data
[06:36] <_Luks> "/usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun
[06:36] <_Luks> /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj
[06:36] <_Luks> /usr/lib/jvm/ia32-java-1.5.0-sun
[06:36] <cbx33> Jack_Sparrow, if I mount it with a knoppix disc
[06:36] <cbx33> there is one directory
[06:36] <Ropechoborra> does gpart have a graphical mode?
[06:36] <cbx33> which is the directory created for the user
[06:36] <kupo> oh hey guys
[06:36] <cbx33> ubuntu has written to the disk during installation
[06:36] <fraroco> hello everybody I wanna see a video WMV, but I have not downloaded the codecs, which one codecs do I need download?
[06:36] <POVaddct> Draconicus: or is there no dhcp server?
[06:36] <kupo> memory is sooo cheap
[06:36] <_Luks> i think that java is not completaly installed :-X
[06:37] <cbx33> just won;t write to it on boot up
[06:37] <kupo> 128 for $30 bux
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> cbx33:  I would delete it and create it anew with gparted
[06:37] <skavenge> fraroco: w32codecs, its on the restrictedformats page, check ubotu's link -
[06:37] <wildman> _Luks: check mine for proper order ;)
[06:37] <skavenge> !resitricted
[06:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about resitricted
[06:37] <_Luks> okidoki
[06:37] <wildman> kupo: lucky ba... :)
[06:37] <holoton1> fraroco:  w32-codecs
[06:37] <skavenge> would help if i could spell
[06:37] <skavenge> !restricted
[06:37] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:37] <cbx33> Jack_Sparrow, ok
[06:38] <Jack_Sparrow> I can spell if you will help
[06:38] <fraroco> holotonl how can I download it whi codeline
[06:38] <wildman> kupo: triple check they are compatible though...
[06:38] <kupo> ok
[06:38] <cbx33> last time qtparted didn't want to make any changes on the disk
[06:38] <skavenge> the webpage shows you how to d/l in commadline
[06:38] <kupo> hey another quick question
[06:38] <kupo> where can I set the default essid name for wireless ?
[06:38] <Jack_Sparrow> cbx33: It may still see it as ntfs for some reason
[06:39] <cbx33> Jack_Sparrow, that's what I thought
[06:39] <cbx33> am trying now
[06:39] <cbx33> it didn't want to do it for some reason earlier
[06:39] <skavenge> kupo: admin -> networking, click on properties of the wireless device
[06:39] <kupo> skavenge: any way to do it from CLI ?
[06:39] <skavenge> kupo; 'essid:' should be right there
[06:39] <skavenge> kupo: im sure there is dunno the command myself though
[06:39] <kupo> no gui right now
[06:39] <Jack_Sparrow> People, it has been fun, I will be away until I get my Honey do's done..
[06:40] <kupo> lata Jack_Sparrow thnx for the help
[06:40] <Jack_Sparrow> kupa... use apt-get
[06:40] <h3m4n> how can i permenently change my path?
[06:40] <EnsilZah> Quick question: I used diskmounter to auto mount all my windows partitions, but how do i prevent them all from showing up on my desktop?
[06:40] <erUSUL> kupo: editing directly /etc/network/interfaces
[06:40] <POVaddct> Draconicus: so now that we actually help, you choose to ignore us. very nice.
[06:40] <kupo> erUSUL: its blank
[06:40] <Draconicus> POVaddct: I went down to my basement workshop to try it.
[06:41] <POVaddct> Draconicus: ah okay
[06:41] <erUSUL> kupo: maybe you are using network manager?
[06:41] <kupo> I'm not sure
[06:41] <_Luks> wildman: i've founde the error =)
[06:41] <kupo> no gui though
[06:41] <Draconicus> POVaddct: Naturally, the graphical stuff didn't work. Yes, there is a DHCP server, and thanks for the useful command.
[06:41] <wildman> _Luks: great
[06:41] <POVaddct> Draconicus: did dhclient3 work?
[06:41] <_Luks> wildman: you must run this command: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:41] <Draconicus> POVaddct: Hold on. I have to run downstairs again. :P
[06:41] <POVaddct> Draconicus: ok
[06:42] <skavenge> 10 minutes to rip a cd in juicer, not bad
[06:42] <wildman> _Luks: see? the wiki had the info ;)
[06:42] <Jack_Sparrow> EnsilZah: term then gconf-editor to take those off the desktop but keep them mounted
[06:42] <_Luks> wildman: thanks! :)
[06:42] <wildman> _Luks: I'm still not very used to Ubuntu's ways... I cannot get rid of my Mandriva background that easily ;)
[06:42] <mc__> ompaul, but it should be possible to install apt-get i guess
[06:42] <wildman> _Luks: you are welcomed
[06:44] <EnsilZah> Thank's Jack_Sparrow, but where exactly do i take them off?
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> EnsilZah: Did you run that program?
[06:44] <EnsilZah> Yup.
[06:45] <Draconicus> POVaddct: It's not picking up any address. The line is fine. The router is fine. Everything is fine. I can only imagine that it has something to do with Dapper's final release and the cards it's able to manage. Is there any reason why somebody would remove one?
[06:45] <Jack_Sparrow> EnsilZah:apps/nautilus/desktop
[06:46] <pybus> I have a problem. I can only use one sound app at a time. If I watch a video via Firefox (Youtube etc.) then I cannot play music, and vice versa, any help?
[06:46] <EnsilZah> Righto, thanks.
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> EnsilZah:Volumes visible... Uncheck that
[06:47] <erUSUL> !sound > pybus
[06:47] <Jack_Sparrow> pybus: Correct
[06:47] <erUSUL> pybus: the dmix driver is not working properly afaics
[06:48] <POVaddct> Draconicus: several suggestions: look if there is more than one eth interface, like eth0 and eth1. try sniffing with tcpdump if you see any network traffic on the eth interface. try setting an ip address of your subnet manually and ping one of the other machines.
[06:48] <pybus> Is there any way around it?
[06:48] <wildman> pybus: maybe the sound system u use has to be changed?
[06:48] <Emilis> I installed ubuntu, but it didn't install boot manager, how do I boot into linux which I know is on /dev/hdb1 partition?
[06:48] <wildman> pybus: don't ask me more details though, I don't use sound that much...
[06:48] <pybus> wildman: Where?
[06:49] <wildman> pybus: read above, sorry.
[06:49] <pybus> wildman: Okay, ta
[06:49] <erUSUL> Emilis: without bootmanager you can not boot (either hard disk or in floppy)
[06:49] <pybus> erUSUL: 'multimedia system selector' doesn't exist
[06:50] <erUSUL> !grub > Emilis
[06:50] <Emilis> can I boot from the cdrom?
[06:50] <erUSUL> pybus: gstreamer-properties from command line
[06:50] <Emilis> the ubuntu install didn't give me an option of a boot manager
[06:50] <erUSUL> Emilis: yes you can boot the live cd to recober grub
[06:50] <erUSUL> !grub
[06:50] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:51] <Ropechoborra> Im using gparted but dont let me resize any partition.. know why? =/
[06:51] <wildman> Ropechoborra: runnin it with 'sudo ' ?
[06:51] <Draconicus> POVaddct: Alright. Thanks. All of those are great suggestions. :)
[06:51] <Ropechoborra> In graphic mode... with my install account
[06:51] <erUSUL> Ropechoborra: are you usong it in the disk ubuntu is instaled? try running it from the livecd
[06:51] <Ropechoborra> dont asked for password
[06:51] <POVaddct> gotta go
[06:52] <Emilis> but is it possible to boot directly into linux from the cd boot prompt if I know it's on /dev/hdb1 ?
[06:52] <Ropechoborra> erUSUL: im trying to resize an ntfs partition
[06:52] <erUSUL> Emilis: i do not know never tried :(. you can make a grub floppy too
[06:53] <erUSUL> Ropechoborra: sigo en ubuntu-es
[06:53] <wildman> Emilis: try root=/dev/hdb1 as boot param...
[06:53] <Jeeves_Moss> all:  I'm BAAAACCKKKK!!!!  lol
[06:53] <yggdrasil_> does anyone know about ebay sniper for linux ?
[06:53] <Draconicus> What the hell?! There's no ethernet interface of any kind in /dev, and yet there was in flight 4! What's going on, here? The install was fine! It configured the interface without problems.
[06:54] <roostishaw> how can i play an flv file?
[06:54] <gnomefreak> Emilis: what version of ubuntu?
[06:54] <erUSUL> Draconicus: net ifaces does not appear in /dev/ . try ifconfig -a
[06:55] <oskude> roostishaw, what is a flv file ? what program made that file ?
[06:55] <Emilis> gnome: 6:06
[06:55] <gnomefreak> flash video?
[06:55] <erUSUL> oskude: videos from youtube afaik
[06:55] <gnomefreak> Emilis: nvm than sorry
[06:55] <roostishaw> oskude, got it off youtube
[06:55] <finalbeta> What is the switch on mget for ftp not to ask for transfer every file? Super bad manpages
[06:55] <erUSUL> oskude: i'm able to see some with xine
[06:55] <Emilis> gnome: nvm? not sure
[06:56] <Draconicus> erUSUL: Alright.
[06:56] <oskude> roostishaw, dunno, never used youtube. sorry (flash sucks;)
[06:56] <tony14764> Anyone good with DVD playback?
[06:56] <roostishaw> how can i play an flv file?
[06:56] <johlin> After a kernel upgrade, now only one of my 2 ntfs drives are mounted, when I try mount -a, it says the device is budsy but already mounted on /media/windowsC (which is empty). What do I do?
[06:57] <wildman> johlin: tried umount with -l option? (-l = lazy IIRC)
[06:57] <ompaul> Draconicus, try turning off the box and reseating that ethernet card - also if you have another card try that, it might have gone faulty while your working on it, also does the network you are on give out sevearl ips or is it only giveing an ip to the box you are on i.e. have you seen more than one box on the net before now
[06:57] <wildman> johlin: which will 'force' the umount, then mount again?
[06:57] <erUSUL> johlin: i've suffered the same problems. disabling lvm and evms helped
[06:57] <johlin>  mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist
[06:57] <johlin> erUSUL: how?
[06:58] <johlin> oooh, I accidentally unmounted all drives, including /, and now I can't mount them. erUSUL: how do I disable lvm and evms? Gotta restart now.
[06:58] <erUSUL> johlin: with update-rc.d -f remove lvms evms (make sure you do not need them)
[06:59] <johlin> erUSUL: copy that and paste when I've rebooted. brb
[06:59] <pjay_> im trying to get x-window-system-dev but theres a never ending list of dependencies is there a way to get all the needed files at once?
[07:00] <egarcia> ola k ay
[07:00] <Subhuman> pjay_, apt-get should get them all.
[07:00] <Subhuman> pjay_, as in apt-get should resolve all dependencies
[07:00] <erUSUL> !es > egarcia
[07:00] <pjay_> apt get cant find package
[07:00] <egarcia> k pasa ?
[07:00] <erUSUL> !es
[07:01] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:01] <johlin> okay erUSUL: what's the command again?
[07:01] <m0gsi> Hey guys my wifi keeps dying after about 10minutes of use and gives me the message  ndiswrapper (wrap_reset_pipe:789): resetting pipe 2 failed: -19
[07:01] <pjay_> root@tuxbox:/home/pjay# apt-get install x-window-system-dev
[07:01] <pjay_> Reading package lists... Done
[07:01] <pjay_> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:01] <pjay_> E: Couldn't find package x-window-system-dev
[07:01] <erUSUL> johlin: with update-rc.d -f remove lvms evms !!!make sure you do not need them!!!!
[07:01] <ompaul> !enter
[07:01] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:02] <erUSUL> pjay_: do not paste here please
[07:02] <pjay_> kk sorry
[07:02] <Subhuman> pjay_, that means itz not in the repos.
[07:02] <johlin> erUSUL: how do I know? And what happens if I do it even though I need it?
[07:02] <wildman> back to work
[07:02] <oskude> pjay_, there is no such package in dapperhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=x-window-system-dev&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[07:02] <m0gsi> anybody?
[07:02] <pjay_> ive updates repositories and edited the file the way ubuntu guide surgested
[07:03] <pjay_> oskude, what does that mean?
[07:03] <ompaul> pjay_,  x-dev
[07:03] <oskude> pjay_, try this xserver-xorg-dev
[07:03] <erUSUL> johlin: do you use "volumes" or directly use partitions?
[07:03] <Subhuman> pjay_, basically there IS NO x-window-system-dev package
[07:03] <pjay_> there is, its on packages.ubuntu.com
[07:03] <ompaul> oskude, that x-dev is a transitional meta package it might point to good stuf
[07:03] <mc__> !universe > pjay_
[07:04] <ompaul> pjay_, url please
[07:04] <johlin> erUSUL: I don't know really. The NTFS drive that doesn't mount is just a 250gb drive with one partition, NTFS.
[07:04] <pjay_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fx%2Fxorg%2Fx-window-system-dev_6.8.2-10.2_i386.deb&md5sum=1c3bae664a580d5f3b1ec5fd1d1acb6b&arch=i386&type=security
[07:04] <roostishaw> anyone, how can i get sound to work in firefox
[07:04] <roostishaw> ?
[07:04] <erUSUL> johlin: post your /etc/fstab to pastebin please
[07:04] <jrib> roostishaw: with stuff like flash?
[07:04] <roostishaw> yes
[07:05] <erUSUL> !sound
[07:05] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:05] <jrib> !flash > roostishaw
[07:05] <pjay_> but wen i get from there the list of dependencies i follow eventualy get stuck in a cycle of errors, file needed which cant be got because the conflict with others
[07:05] <roostishaw> thanks
[07:05] <jrib> roostishaw: the restricted wiki explains how to use aoss
[07:05] <jrib> (in firefox)
[07:05] <pjay_> my x-dev is latest aparently
[07:05] <m0gsi> Hey guys i have a wifi problem my card is rt73 based and i am using ndiswrapper how ever after 15mins it cuts out and gives this error message  ndiswrapper (wrap_reset_pipe:789): resetting pipe 2 failed: -19.
[07:05] <johlin> erUSUL: http://pastebin.ca/79721
[07:06] <pjay_> mc__, yes i realise that
[07:07] <erUSUL> johlin: it is safe to disable evms and lvm
[07:07] <johlin> thanks
[07:07] <erUSUL> johlin: no problem
[07:07] <kaot> m0gsi: is it possible your driver's flaky?
[07:07] <Draconicus> erUSUL: I'm getting nothing out of anything suggested. ifconfig -a just brings up the possible interfaces, while the inet address on eth0 remains hardware, and not IP. Any other suggestions?
[07:07] <johlin> erUSUL: update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/remove: file does not exist
[07:08] <pjay_> so any ideas on how i can get x-window-system-dev
[07:09] <ompaul> pjay_, I would not use ubuntu-guide though
[07:09] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[07:09] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is an inaccurate and outdated resource. Please use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[07:09] <kaot> Draconicus: sounds like the system sees your card it just isn't configured.  how are you connecting that computer? router?  dhcp?
[07:09] <pjay_> kk
[07:09] <erUSUL> Draconicus: you can try to set the ip and gateaway by hand
[07:09] <ompaul> pjay_, please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:10] <ompaul> pjay_, why do you want that set of material ?
[07:10] <sikor_sxe> what is this kacpid process
[07:11] <sikor_sxe> and why can't i kill it?
[07:11] <pjay_> to install wine
[07:11] <Draconicus> kaot: The computer is connected directly to the router through a long ethernet cable. The cable is fine, and the same line is normally used for my server.
[07:11] <erUSUL> johlin: sorry is the other way around remove last in the line
[07:11] <ompaul> pjay_, you don't need to do that
[07:11] <ompaul> pjay_, you need to do this: sudo apt-get install wine
[07:11] <Draconicus> erUSUL: It's just temporary. I'll probably do that.
[07:11] <pjay_> i have wine
[07:11] <kaot> Draconicus: a bit more info than I needed hehe... so you're probably doing dhcp there.  dhclient eth0 (sudo of course), see what that does.
[07:12] <erUSUL> johlin: with update-rc.d -f lvms evms remove (do one at a time first lvm then evms)
[07:12] <pjay_> sources.list is pasted
[07:12] <ompaul> pjay_,  wine is in universe
[07:12] <johlin> erUSUL: yeah, I figured. Now it says that lvms doesn't exist. Maybe I should just boot back into the other kernel?
[07:12] <pjay_> i have wine
[07:13] <oskude> zzzzz
[07:13] <ompaul> pjay_, I would not be using backports unless you really need them, they can cause you a lot of pain
[07:13] <erUSUL> johlin: is lvm (without s)
[07:13] <m0gsi> Hey again sry , my wifi died again and the whole pc froze
[07:14] <m0gsi> kaot the drivers worked on windows
[07:14] <erUSUL> m0gsi: are you using the default ubuntu kernel?
[07:14] <m0gsi> I am using the K7 kernel euUSUL
[07:14] <johlin> erUSUL: done. I'll just restart then
[07:14] <m0gsi> But the problem happend on the 386 kernel
[07:15] <m0gsi> How would i find out the devid of the wireless card?
[07:15] <kaot> m0gsi: lspci -n
[07:15] <kaot> I think.
[07:15] <kaot> :\
[07:15] <erUSUL> m0gsi: it is a ralink card? it has native drivers afaik
[07:15] <pjay_> hwo do i choose where my wine fake windows dir is?
[07:15] <m0gsi> Ok lspci -n gives me alot of random numbers
[07:16] <m0gsi> The howto tells me to do something like this sudo ndiswrapper -d 050d:7050 rt2500usb with my own numbers
[07:16] <maddash> anyone know the fdisk cmd to hide a partition?
[07:17] <m0gsi> erUSUL well i think it is rt73
[07:17] <m0gsi> But i would have no idea how to install the drivers
[07:18] <m0gsi> Would i need to recompile the kernel if i installed the native drivers?
[07:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !wine
[07:18] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:18] <erUSUL> m0gsi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=ralink&titlesearch=T%C3%ADtulos
[07:19] <m0gsi> thx
[07:19] <erUSUL> m0gsi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT73
[07:19] <sikor_sxe> what is this kacpid process? and why can't i kill (-9) it?
[07:20] <erUSUL> sikor_sxe: is a kernel threath you can not kill it
[07:20] <ernstp> hello
[07:20] <ernstp> What's happened to marillats archive?
[07:20] <sikor_sxe> erUSUL. i see, so it couldn't prevent me from starting powersafed?
[07:21] <erUSUL> sikor_sxe: no afaik
[07:21] <johlin> erUSUL: still didn't work. I'll just use the old kernel for now.
[07:21] <astro_-> Does ubuntu support deleting files from NTFS partitions?
[07:21] <astro_-> or do I need to install some stuff?
[07:21] <erUSUL> johlin: :(
[07:21] <erUSUL> astro_-: no by default. try fuse
[07:22] <Jack_Sparrow> astro_-: Best not to do anything except read from ntfs
[07:22] <erUSUL> !ntfs > astro_-
[07:22] <astro_-> erUSUL: thanks
[07:23] <monomaniacpa1> I just detected an event through firestarter from kornbluth.freenode.net!?
[07:24] <Jack_Sparrow> monomaniacpa1:  someone may have tried to dcc you
[07:24] <skavenge> could be versioning to see if your a bot
[07:24] <monomaniacpa1> Jack_Sparrow: what would that be?
[07:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Tried to send yo a file or direct chat
[07:25] <monomaniacpa1> oh well, they'll have to try a bit harder
[07:25] <Jack_Sparrow> monomaniacpa1: Nothing to worry about
[07:25] <r38yatwork> Hello! I have been having trouble stoping lighttpd using /etc/init.d/lighttpd stop, has anybody else had this issue?
[07:25] <monomaniacpa1> That's the first event EVA
[07:25] <oskude> r38yatwork, did you use with sudo ?
[07:26] <r38yatwork> yeah
[07:26] <r38yatwork> I bugged #lighttpd about it and they said to ask here...
[07:26] <ardchoille> kornbluth.freenode.net is one of the freenode irc servers
[07:26] <oskude> r38yatwork, and what error messages do you get ?
[07:26] <oskude> r38yatwork, but please dont copy and paste in here :/
[07:27] <r38yatwork> heh
[07:27] <r38yatwork> uhm, wow, it stopped when I just tried it
[07:27] <califfo> hi all
[07:27] <oskude> lol
[07:27] <r38yatwork> I have been having this issue on two different ubuntu boxes
[07:27] <r38yatwork> what I had just done is sudo killall -9 lighttpd
[07:27] <r38yatwork> and deleted the *.pid file
[07:27] <r38yatwork> so maybe that helped
[07:27] <califfo> what can I do after that: /usr/bin/dpkg-deb: cannot execute binary file ?
[07:28] <r38yatwork> thanks oskude
[07:28] <oskude> r38yatwork, np :)
[07:28] <ardchoille> califfo: what are you trying to do?
[07:28] <oskude> califfo, be more precise, what did you tried do ?
[07:28] <r38yatwork> what could cause that problem? it would just say "failed" when it did the stop part of restart
[07:28] <califfo> sudo aptitude update
[07:28] <oskude> r38yatwork, no idea, i use apache
[07:29] <oskude> califfo, try sudo apt-get update
[07:29] <neighborlee> anyone know of fix for installing vlc ? ( getting dep errors with apt )
[07:29] <kenneho> Hi all, I'm trying to get my ipw2200 card working on Dapper Drake. Anyone has any experience or tips on this matter?
[07:29] <ardchoille> califfo: oh, I never use aptitude, I always use sudo apt-get update
[07:31] <califfo> ardchoille, oskude : the problem is with dpkg-deb
[07:31] <m0gsi> erUSUL are you there?
[07:31] <oskude> califfo, if you say so...
[07:31] <erUSUL> m0gsi: yes
[07:31] <kenas> hi
[07:31] <nvez> Alright, I'm confussiled. :p
[07:31] <califfo> same error message while sudo apt-get install apache
[07:31] <m0gsi> erUSUL : is there anywhere i can get binary versions of this driver?
[07:32] <m0gsi> califfo apache2
[07:32] <oskude> califfo, pastebin the whole error message
[07:32] <Homer> wow anybody have some serious problems with dapper and wireless cards not letting your system boot
[07:32] <califfo> m0gsi, it's the same
[07:32] <Homer> I've run into one hell of a problem
[07:32] <m0gsi> k
[07:32] <erUSUL> m0gsi: binary versions of what driver? it should come with the distribution
[07:32] <kenas> i am having some really strange problems since i updated to dapper 6.06
[07:32] <nvez> I have a HDD with 2 partitions one 137 & 113, I am resizing the 113 one to 90 to use the extra space to install ubuntu, after I write the resizing commands and all, it simply goes back to the same menu about partitioning and doesnt show any free space.
[07:32] <Ro1> where do i submit wallpaper i just made for ubuntu?
[07:33] <kenas> can someone help me ?
[07:33] <djgagga> hola
[07:33] <erUSUL> !anyone
[07:33] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:33] <TeacherTodd813> I was just trying to install in Text-Only mode from the alternate CD.
[07:33] <erUSUL> !es > djgagga
[07:33] <nvez> Ro1, art.ubuntu.com
[07:33] <kenas> k
[07:33] <redguy> how can I enable debud output from the network init scripts?
[07:33] <djgagga> k pasa con migo
[07:33] <redguy> sdebud/debug/
[07:33] <TeacherTodd813> My screen now has two small white rectangles in the middle of a black screen.
[07:33] <califfo> oskude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17269
[07:33] <ardchoille> califfo: do: ls -l /usr/bin/dpkg-deb
[07:33] <TeacherTodd813> What do I try next?
[07:33] <djgagga> ijo puta
[07:33] <kenas> my network doesnt work
[07:34] <Guyver`> don't know
[07:34] <djgagga> tu  puta perra cara
[07:34] <Ro1> djgagga yo no hablo espanol bueno
[07:34] <erUSUL> !es
[07:34] <ardchoille> !es
[07:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:34] <m0gsi> OK i have started to build this driver and i am getting this error message
[07:34] <djgagga> tu puta madre
[07:34] <m0gsi> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-k7/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[07:34] <redguy> kenas, acn you give more detail?
[07:34] <redguy> !ops
[07:34] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[07:34] <kenas> well i can ping all other users
[07:34] <Ro1> djgagga is curing everyone out in spanish
[07:34] <Ro1> *cursing
[07:34] <TeacherTodd813> Um, he's just saying naughty words in Spanish. There's no relevant content.
[07:34] <gnomefreak> redguy: ???
[07:34] <califfo> ardchoille, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 197596 2006-05-05 19:45 /usr/bin/dpkg-deb
[07:34] <redguy> djgagga,
[07:34] <oskude> califfo, could you do that with english error messages too ? :) forgot the command thou...
[07:34] <kenas> they are w***** users
[07:34] <redguy> gnomefreak, ^^
[07:34] <redguy> gnomefreak, thanks
[07:34] <kenas> i think i have smb well configured
[07:35] <skavenge> says our moms are female dogs, thats not nice ;)
[07:35] <kenas> but i am not sure
[07:35] <califfo> oskude, how?
[07:35] <Ro1> na ;)
[07:35] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: thank you
[07:35] <kenas> i can enter directly to another computer
[07:35] <nvez> califfo, try apt-get install apache2 ^
[07:35] <erUSUL> gnomefreak: yes it is cursing in spanish (a spanish native speaker)
[07:35] <ardchoille> califfo: ok, I wanted to be sure it was executable
[07:35] <nvez> ?
[07:35] <redguy> gnomefreak, since I got your attention
[07:35] <califfo> nvez, no
[07:35] <kenas> but i cannot acces the whole network
[07:35] <protocol1> is there a way to disable hybernation?
[07:35] <nvez> why not, califfo?
[07:35] <califfo> 'cause it's nonsense
[07:35] <protocol1> yo
[07:35] <nvez> .. Try it and it'll work. :\
[07:35] <califfo> the problem isn't in the package to be installed, but in dpkg-deb
[07:35] <redguy> gnomefreak, maye you know why my atheros based wifi connection doesnt come up at boot, but it comes up after manual ifup ?
[07:36] <cyny1> okay all odd question, how are the packages for ubuntu compiled, specifically X?
[07:36] <blakef> Hi All, looking for AppleAirPort2 firmware.  I've already killed what was left of OS-X on my powerbook.  Does anyone have a copy?
[07:36] <oskude> how do i run command with other language ? was it "LANG=en_AU.UTF-8 & command" ?
[07:36] <nvez> cyny1: alot.
[07:36] <nvez> =P
[07:36] <redguy> gnomefreak, or, maybe you know how to see the output of the net initscripts
[07:36] <[Tr3] > Does anyone here know why video wont work in mplayer while playing an wmv format. I get sound but no video
[07:36] <gnomefreak> redguy: nope i dont have anything to do with wireless thank goodness ;)
[07:36] <bbrazil> oskude: no &
[07:36] <kenneho> Maybe I missed some replies, so I'll try again:  I'm trying to get my ipw2200 card working on Dapper Drake. Anyone has any experience or tips on this matter?
[07:36] <m0gsi> Any ideas anyone i am building a driver and i am getting this error message cp -v Makefile.6 ./Makefile
[07:36] <erUSUL> redguy: it is an 'auto iface' line in /etc/network/interfaces?
[07:36] <redguy> gnomefreak: ;(
[07:36] <m0gsi> Kenneho have you tried using the ndiswrapper?
[07:36] <redguy> erUSUL, yup
[07:36] <m0gsi> It works for me (10minutes at a time)
[07:37] <cyny1> nvez: well the particular box i'm looking to put ubuntu on need X compiled with "-march=i386 -O0"
[07:37] <oskude> califfo, try running "LANG=en_AU.UTF-8 sudo apt-get install apache" and post the output if its in eglish
[07:37] <redguy> erUSUL, I wasn't quite correct there, the interface does come up, but it is not associated witha any AP
[07:37] <redguy> erUSUL, wanna see my interfaces?
[07:37] <kenneho> m0gsi: No, I haven't. But I've tried this approach: http://www.debuntu.org/2006/03/27/9-how-to-ipw2200-getting-intel-pro-wireless-2200-bg-to-work-on-debian-ubuntu/
[07:37] <nvez> meh, cyny1, ill try to help after i figure out why installer wont resize my hdd
[07:37] <nvez> :p
[07:37] <redguy> erUSUL, file that is.. ;-)
[07:37] <kenneho> m0gsi: And I got as far as the last step
[07:38] <nvez> son of a
[07:38] <TeacherTodd813> blakef: what do you mean by firmware? I have the little driver you need from the OS X System to get AirPort working in Ubuntu.
[07:38] <nvez> :(
[07:38] <califfo> oskude, it doesn't work
[07:38] <blakef> TeacherTodd813, thats the one called [AppleAirPort2] ?
[07:38] <kenneho> m0gsi: Seem I haven't got any "firmware" folder.. Any ideas how to fix this?
[07:38] <protocol1> can someone help me disable hybernation?
[07:38] <kenneho> m0gsi: Sorry, ment "hotplug"
[07:38] <TeacherTodd813> I think so. It's been a while since I did it.
[07:38] <erUSUL> redguy: i can take a look but i do not know if i can help...
[07:39] <TeacherTodd813> blakef: Unfortunately, I'm at school and have no access to email.
[07:39] <oskude> califfo, what doesnt work ? that command ? works here
[07:39] <nomad411> !sources
[07:39] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:39] <[Tr3] > there is a great guide in the how-to's to get airport extreme to work
[07:39] <nomad411> !easysource
[07:39] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:39] <blakef> TeacherTodd813, would you mind DCC it to me? (firewall?)
[07:39] <kenas> my network doesnt work
[07:39] <erUSUL> !wifi
[07:39] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:39] <oskude> califfo, did you type it wihtout the " ?
[07:39] <kenas> i can ping other userrs
[07:39] <TeacherTodd813> blakef: But if you don't find it, you could email me and I'd have access later this afternoon.
[07:39] <[Tr3] > how-to's in the forum
[07:39] <califfo> yers, but i don't have en_AU (now I'm doing with en_EN
[07:40] <protocol1> can someone help me disable hybernation?
[07:40] <oskude> califfo, roger
[07:40] <kenas> but i cannot access the whole networks
[07:40] <nvez> kenas, wireless or?
[07:40] <kenas> cable
[07:40] <cynyr> anyone else know anything about the flags used to compile packages?
[07:40] <kenas> ping works fine
[07:40] <erUSUL> kenas: put your problem in one line or it will be impossible to follow you
[07:40] <TeacherTodd813> blakef: it's at home...I'm on an IBM at school.
[07:40] <califfo> oskude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17270
[07:40] <blakef> TeacherTodd813, thnx! mail addr?
[07:40] <nvez> kenas, so no router, its cable and you can ping siteso n the internet^
[07:40] <nvez> ?
[07:41] <nvez> or by cable you mean
[07:41] <pablof> hi... how can i config my touchpad speed ?
[07:41] <nvez> wired network?
[07:41] <TeacherTodd813> blakef: toddobryan@mac.com
[07:41] <redguy> erUSUL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17271
[07:41] <blakef> TeacherTodd813, thanks again!
[07:41] <oskude> califfo, hmm, thats not the same/whole error messages ?
[07:41] <TeacherTodd813> So, I have a machine 6 feet away that was getting installed upon.
[07:41] <Wikipedia-Gast96> why
[07:42] <TeacherTodd813> It now has two white rectangles in the middle of a black screen.
[07:42] <Wikipedia-Gast96> no
[07:42] <protocol1> can someone help me disable hybernation?
[07:42] <TeacherTodd813> What do I do now?
[07:42] <califfo> that's the output of LANG=en_EN.UTF-8 sudo apt-get install apache
[07:42] <kenas> I have Ubuntu in one PC and other are using W******* is normal LAN with a router ( i have internet and i can ping other users using other os ) but i can enter the workgroup i have SMB installed but i am not sure if it works properly
[07:42] <Wikipedia-Gast96> why
[07:42] <redguy> erUSUL, I suspect that some kind of timeout occurs when bringing up the interface. It would be helpful if I knew how to see the output of the networking initscript...
[07:42] <Wikipedia-Gast96> why
[07:42] <noway-> Hello, I am trying to compile an app from a svn repo.  There are no install notes, no instructions on the site.  there is 3 makefiles in the directory, Makefile.am Makefile.common and Makefile.nmake ... Can anyone help me on what I need to do?
[07:42] <oskude> califfo, odd the other one had double the messages
[07:42] <Wikipedia-Gast96> why
[07:42] <redguy> s/networking/network/
[07:42] <kenas> sorry i cant
[07:43] <kenas> i cannot enter the workgroup
[07:43] <Subhuman> noway-, is there  afile called "configure?
[07:43] <noway-> I have tried to use automake using: autoreconf but it gives me erros
[07:43] <yawg> the screensaver "petri" doesn't apear to come with xscreensaver like it should
[07:43] <noway-> Subhuman: there is one called configure.in
[07:44] <noway-> Subhuman: I have tried to rename it and make it an executable, but that didnt work either
[07:44] <Subhuman> noway-, try a "make" then "sudo make isntall"
[07:44] <Subhuman> anyways i gotta go
[07:44] <Subhuman> late.r
[07:44] <noway-> Subhuman: make doesn't work, there is no makefile for it
[07:44] <oskude> califfo, maybe trying "sudo apt-get clean" and then istal again (it gets the files again from internet)
[07:44] <erUSUL> redguy: you can add a line 'pre-up sleep <n seconds>' in the stanza and see if it helps
[07:44] <oskude> califfo, *install
[07:45] <yawg> is there a reason "petri" isn't included in my /usr/lib/xscreensaver ?
[07:45] <yawg> from what i can tell from searching the web, it should be there
[07:46] <kenneho> A walkthrough says I have to copy some files to /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware, but I don't seem to have the hotplug folder on my system. How can I fix this? Guessing I need to install some package..
[07:46] <pablof> pera, fazer um teste
[07:46] <oskude> yawg, i dont have it neither, so its propably normal...
[07:46] <pjay_> ok im back again, wine isnt working, it cant tell me which version it is and i dont know how to make a fake windows dir
[07:46] <yawg> well how do i get it?
[07:46] <yawg> it's my favorite screen saver so far
[07:46] <protocol1> can someone help me disable hybernation?
[07:47] <noway-> Any suggestions on how I can compile this app?
[07:47] <redguy> erUSUL, been there, done that... I suspect the timeout occurs when wpa_supplicant is being run.. the odd thing is I can't see any error messages, everything seems to go fine, dhclient is being started
[07:47] <oskude> yawg, dunno, never heard... try find their webpage and hope thei have ubuntu package...
[07:47] <kenas> I have Ubuntu in one PC and other are using W******* is a normal LAN with a router (i have internet and i can ping other users that are using another os) but i cant enter the workgroup. I've got SMB installed but i am not sure if it works properly.
[07:47] <erUSUL> redguy: and in /var/log/messages? any errors there
[07:48] <redguy> erUSUL, isn't there a script <command> stanza? maybe that would help...
[07:48] <Otacon22> doing ifconfig "eth0 add newip" i can add a new ip to the internet interface, good, than the other pc can call me using on choose 2 ip, ok, but when I send packets in the net they arrive as which ip address?
[07:48] <pjay_> how can i permanently remove all versions of wine and start over
[07:49] <Otacon22> it is maybe for put an ip for avery user in pc?
[07:49] <ljlolel> pjay_: sudo apt-get remove --purge wine
[07:49] <erUSUL> redguy: pre-up will execute anything (i use it with ralink driver to set all the parameters of the connection)
[07:49] <redguy> erUSUL, no nothing in there as well
[07:49] <Kibou> yawg: according to http://packages.ubuntu.com it comes with the xscreensaver-data-extra package
[07:49] <yawg> ok i downloaded the debian package for xscreensaver which does have petri, is there a way to get it to just install petri, and not all the other ones
[07:49] <yawg> ohh
[07:49] <yawg> Kibou: thanks
[07:49] <erUSUL> pjay_: sudo apt-get --purge remove wine
[07:49] <pjay_> will that remove all versions?
[07:50] <ljlolel> pjay_: what does this mean, all versions? did you install wine from a deb package?
[07:50] <kenas> I have Ubuntu in one PC and other are using W******* is a normal LAN with a router (i have internet and i can ping other users that are using another os) but i cant enter the workgroup. I've got SMB installed but i am not sure if it works properly.
[07:50] <redguy> erUSUL, but pre-up will be run before the wpa- stuff, right?
[07:50] <yawg> E: Couldn't find package xscreensaver-data-extra
[07:50] <oskude> pjay_, that will remove wine that you installed through apt-get
[07:50] <cynyr> okay i would like to install ubuntu on a TM5800, but i need to make sure X is compiled with flags of "-march=i386 -O0" else it will crash randomly, due to a known bug in the chip
[07:50] <Dragonfyre13> garrrr!!!! I'm going to go insane!
[07:50] <erUSUL> redguy: i supose but not sure
[07:50] <kenas> nvez is not wireless
[07:50] <jrib> yawg: you need to enable universe
[07:50] <pjay_> i have installed from source and from a deb package and the latest using synaptic from the wine repository
[07:50] <kenas> nvez its a normal LAN
[07:50] <jrib> !universe > yawg
[07:50] <erUSUL> !samba
[07:50] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:50] <redguy> erUSUL, I would like to run something between wpa- stuff and the start of dhclient
[07:50] <Dragonfyre13> Anyone know an IRC channel that can help me with my ubuntu box? I'm biulding a new one, and I can't get it to post, period.
[07:51] <roe> can some one help me getting synaptic or apt-get to download packages
[07:51] <oskude> Draconicus, post ?
[07:51] <Dragonfyre13> what's the problem Roe?
[07:51] <pjay_> ok it says package is not installed but if i type wine it gives me the list for version/help etc
[07:51] <oskude> Draconicus, eeh, srry
[07:51] <wastrel> Dragonfyre13:  #hardware  mebby
[07:51] <Dragonfyre13> thanks wastrel
[07:52] <oskude> pjay_, did you install outside apt-get  ?
[07:52] <roe> Dragonfyre13, I can resolve the rep. name and ping the IP but when ever I try to update or install I get:
[07:52] <roe> Unable to fetch file, server said Failed to open file.
[07:52] <pjay_> yeah
[07:52] <pjay_> think so oskude
[07:52] <oskude> pjay_, and what did you do ?
[07:52] <roe> I have tried both http and ftp
[07:52] <pjay_> i have installed from cvs source and using ubuntus packagemanager and also apt get
[07:53] <redguy> erUSUL, well thanks... I guess I have to ask in the mailing lists...
[07:53] <TeacherTodd813> Can anyone help with a painful X configuration?
[07:53] <oskude> pjay_, well, if you know how to compile things, you _should_ allso know how to uninstall them...
[07:53] <redguy> erUSUL, maybe someone there has had similar problems
[07:53] <pjay_> nope not a clue, i jus followed a guide
[07:53] <califfo> oskude, same result
[07:53] <janne> howdy
[07:53] <oskude> pjay_, with out looking if it has info on how to uninstall ?
[07:53] <janne> do ya wanna smell my urine.
[07:53] <janne> ?
[07:53] <janne> fuck you all
[07:54] <pjay_> i dont think that far ahead
[07:54] <oskude> califfo, ? sorry forgot the problem
[07:54] <janne> i'm a fucking nutcase :P
[07:54] <janne> lol
[07:54] <janne> lmfao
[07:54] <janne> woot!
[07:54] <janne> pwrgoad
[07:54] <janne> kf
[07:54] <janne> bzd
[07:54] <janne> ,bzd
[07:54] <janne> bg<d
[07:54] <califfo> oskude,  error with dpkg-deb
[07:54] <oskude> pjay_, in best case its "sudo make uninstall" (if you did sudo make install)
[07:54] <oskude> califfo, ahh jeah, hmm...
[07:54] <yawg> awesome, i think this is working
[07:54] <pjay_> what dir do i do that in oskude ?
[07:54] <roe> anyone have any input on my synaptics / apt-get proplem?
[07:55] <oskude> pjay_, there, where you did "sudo make install"
[07:55] <pjay_> no idea, think ive deleted the directory
[07:55] <oskude> califfo, have you done some "not ubuntu standard" things lately ?
[07:55] <oskude> pjay_, lol, well...
[07:55] <califfo> oskude, automatix
[07:55] <oskude> !automatix
[07:55] <pjay_> shall i jus format and start again?
[07:55] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[07:56] <cynyr> okay i would like to install ubuntu on a TM5800(a transmeta CPU), but i need to make sure X is compiled with flags of "-march=i386 -O0" else it will crash randomly, due to a known bug in the chip
[07:56] <oskude> califfo, hmm, that could be the cause. but doesnt have to...
[07:56] <califfo> could it be some broken RAM?
[07:56] <SanketMedhi> ubotu:
[07:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu:
[07:57] <SanketMedhi> ubotu: flash
[07:57] <oskude> califfo, hmm... maybe... but would be more random, i think
[07:57] <emilis> anybody here able to get Netscape working on ubuntu?
[07:58] <oskude> califfo, maybe reinstalling apt-get (or where that problem program is)
[07:58] <califfo> oskude, the problem is with dpkg :)
[07:59] <SanketMedhi> emilis: any specific reason why you want Netscape
[07:59] <SanketMedhi> ?
[07:59] <Guest62064> hi
[07:59] <Guest62064> yall
[07:59] <SanketMedhi> hi
[07:59] <eugman> Hey, how can I get a picture of some aliased small sized monospace text.
[07:59] <Guest62064> hows it going
[07:59] <emilis> Sanket: I have an internal application (Incident Monitor) which only supports Netscape or IE
[07:59] <Guest62064> Question
[07:59] <oskude> califfo, then try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall dpkg"
[07:59] <Guest62064> question
[07:59] <m0gsi> emilis wouldn't it work with mozilla suite as well?
[07:59] <emilis> m0gsi: nope it doesn't work with firefox
[08:00] <protocol1> can someone help me disable hybernation?
[08:00] <cynyr> emilis: have you tried just switching the useragent on Firefox?
[08:00] <Guest62064> is there a .vmx for VMWare??????????????????????\
[08:00] <protocol1> can anyone see my chat text?
[08:00] <Guest62064> i can
[08:00] <HackerX> Hey is there anyone that can help me with a ndiswrapper install i have everything ready i just need help loading the drivers for some reason it says on the site i need to use both the inf and sys file and i have those ready also
[08:00] <protocol1> ok
[08:00] <Kibou> protocol1: no
[08:00] <emilis> cynyr: didn't know that's an option
[08:00] <m0gsi> emilis i didn't mean firefox i meant mozilla suite which is almost netscape
[08:00] <protocol1> just making sure
[08:00] <protocol1> lol
[08:00] <fre4k> protocol1, yes i can
[08:00] <cynyr> emilis: you need a "extention" to do it... addons.mozilla.org
[08:01] <Guest62064> question
[08:01] <__mikem> Guest62064 A .vmx is a virtual machine config file. You use vmware to run virtual machines
[08:01] <eugman> Anyone know how i can get a picture of some alaiased text?
[08:01] <erUSUL> protocol1: gnome-power-manager
[08:01] <emilis> cynyr: thanks a million!
[08:01] <Guest62064> i need the config file though
[08:01] <__mikem> Guest62064 do you own a copy of vmware?
[08:01] <Guest62064> yes
[08:01] <__mikem> Which one?
[08:01] <cynyr> emilis: found several things that work after i do that...
[08:01] <__mikem> Do you own vmware-player?
[08:01] <yawg> ok i have petri installed, and it works when i type /usr/lib/xscreensaver/petri it it *doesn't* work when i set it as the screensaver and lock the screen to test
[08:01] <Guest62064> the player
[08:01] <califfo> oskude, it can't reinstall dpkg as for the same problem
[08:02] <HackerX> Can anyone help me with ndiswrapper?
[08:02] <Guest62064> mikem the player
[08:02] <oskude> califfo, lol, ofcourse, hmm...
[08:02] <Josh1> Does anyone know any good multi-threaded/multisource download accelerator for ubuntu like reget/getright/dap/etc for ubuntu? Ive tried alot but they are slow and such. And ive tried to wine files but it wont work :P
[08:02] <protocol1> erUSUL, is that something I download or go to?
[08:02] <johlin> I got Guitar Pro working in wine with midi a few minutes ago (with fluidsynth), the only thing that doesn't work is that all drums are replaced with piano, Is that a probem with the soundfont or fluidsynth?
[08:02] <__mikem> Guest62064 the reason why its called vmware player is, because it is only supposed to be able to play virtual machine files. IT can't create them. However, there is a website you can use to create virtual machines which you can use with vmware player.
[08:02] <Guest62064> yes
[08:02] <fre4k> Josh1, 4x ?
[08:03] <Guest62064> _mikem
[08:03] <fre4k> Josh1, d4x
[08:03] <Kibou> d4x
[08:03] <dudleh> is it possible to disable tap to click for touchpads in ubuntu?
[08:03] <__mikem> IF you like, I can give you the site, and help you set it up
[08:03] <Guest62064> please
[08:03] <Josh1> D4x doesnt have multithreaded.
[08:03] <erUSUL> protocol1: run it
[08:03] <__mikem> http://www.easyvmx.com/
[08:03] <oskude> califfo, spontanly, i hack that i never done, but just came in my mind: maybe finding the deb package from the install cd, unpack it, and copy the binary over the other...
[08:03] <kaot> HackerX: What kind of wireless card?
[08:03] <yawg> ok i have petri installed, and it works when i type /usr/lib/xscreensaver/petri it it *doesn't* work when i set it as the screensaver and lock the screen to test
[08:03] <Kibou> Josh1: is does actually
[08:04] <Guest62064> THANKS!
[08:04] <Josh1> I get like 280kbs on a 2mbit connection with download accelerators but with firefox etc i get like 50, even with other os's :S
[08:04] <oskude> califfo, but there maybe more broke, so reinstall of whole ubuntu could be a good idea...
[08:04] <Josh1> Kibou: ill try again then :D
[08:04] <fre4k> i'm thinking of upgrading to drapper ... but will i have probs with installed nvidia drivers ?
[08:04] <Josh1> Just reinstall then fre4k, took me 30 seconds :P
[08:05] <CptAJ> hey guys, how would I add some amplification to the sound output? the volume control bar just isnt enough for some reason (its louder on windows)
[08:05] <oskude> califfo, but if we you had used only "standard ubuntu" procedures, could have been a bug...
[08:05] <fre4k> Josh1, should i disable nvidia before doing the upgrade
[08:05] <m0gsi> Is HackerX here?
[08:05] <Josh1> fre4k: You could try, but i did a fresh install.. When i switched from my radeon to geforce i had to reinstall. You could try the onbuilt.
[08:06] <cougem> i've got bitchx-gtk but, however stupid this sounds, i don't know how to start it :D
[08:06] <HackerX> Yes
[08:06] <cougem> the only command i can find is bitchx
[08:06] <HackerX> Sorry im looking again i forgot
[08:06] <HackerX> the model
[08:06] <fre4k> Josh1, i'm going to try the unline upgrade .. thats why
[08:06] <CptAJ> no one?
[08:06] <CptAJ> =(
[08:07] <Josh1> fr3k: I have not much idea about ubuntu just the basics, only been using it for a little while =)
[08:07] <oskude> cougem, and do you get a GTK gui with the command bitchx ?
[08:07] <fre4k> CptAJ, i'd like to know too :(
[08:07] <m0gsi> HackerX to install the driver sudo ndiswrapper -i rt2500usb.inf but change the driver name
[08:07] <idefix> how do I execute an advanced search rule in evolution mail?
[08:08] <HackerX> ok i have the dell broadcom 4318 (bcm34xx)
[08:08] <CptAJ> fre4k: then help me ask around >_>
[08:08] <sethk> JUDGE TOSSES 200 SCO CLAIMS VS. IBM    http://newsletter.infoworld.com/t?ctl=12E7D76:1F42AD0
[08:08] <HackerX> ok aparently i need to use both the sys and the inf file
[08:08] <cougem> nope oskude
[08:08] <soundray> CptAJ: check that your volumes are on max in alsamixer
[08:08] <HackerX> so how do i do that
[08:09] <SurfnKid> HackerX, Breezy or Dapper
[08:09] <HackerX> dapper
[08:09] <kaot> HackerX: does it give a chipset revision?
[08:09] <SurfnKid> HackerX, I believe, not sure cuz i only tried the inf but you can insert both files into the system
[08:09] <kaot> i've got a 4318... total bear to set up
[08:09] <oskude> cougem, maybe you need a start flag to get the gui... sorry never used bitchx
[08:10] <CptAJ> soundray: yup, all maxed out
[08:10] <_absolution_> does slackware come with a live CD?
[08:10] <HackerX> What do you mean by revision?
[08:10] <kaot> SurfnKid: using the .sys returned invalid driver for me when i tried (out of desperation)
[08:10] <kaot> HackerX: in lspci it'll usually show a revision number at the end of the line
[08:10] <HackerX> yea i dont why but on the site it said it need both files
[08:10] <HackerX> umm hold on ill look
[08:10] <kaot> HackerX: oh, is this using ndiswrapper or bcm43xx?
[08:11] <SurfnKid> kaot, ouch, yeah i couldnt get mine to work on dapper, despite several tries. I reverted back to Breezy, and everything is playin like a good tune
[08:11] <Stork> is it possible to get java in firefox on 64-bit dapper?
[08:11] <kaot> bcm43xx I think needs the .sys if you're using firmware cutter
[08:11] <SurfnKid> kaot, oh right firmware cutter
[08:11] <kaot> SurfnKid: yeah that happened to me too.  I was...upset...(understatement.)  I got it to work eventually
[08:11] <kaot> i was quite close to downgrading tho
[08:11] <SurfnKid> I wouldnt know if the Breezy instructions forcefully could work on Dapper, but I'll have to try that on a test box
[08:12] <HackerX> ok Ubuntu sees my card but it wont connect but on the site it says i will need to use ndiswrapper for it to work
[08:12] <SurfnKid> kaot, really? as eth1 or wlan0?
[08:12] <kaot> wlan0
[08:12] <docgnome> i'm trying to use feh to set my background. that works fine but I want it to execute when I log in. I've tried putting the command in .Xsession and .xsession and .xinitrc but nothing happens.
[08:12] <kaot> like in breezy
[08:12] <SurfnKid> nooo
[08:12] <SurfnKid> dang
[08:12] <SurfnKid> i want that working
[08:12] <kaot> which card do you have?
[08:12] <CptAJ> meh, I was really optimistic abount soundray solving my problem. Thought his name was a good omen -_-
[08:12] <SurfnKid> same as HackerX
[08:12] <cyny1> any one know the C flags X is compiled with in ubuntu?
[08:12] <HackerX> eth1
[08:13] <SurfnKid> Broadcomm 43xx
[08:13] <jme> Anyone get an Atmel wireless card to work properly?
[08:13] <kaot> oh
[08:13] <SurfnKid> 4306 to be specific b/g rev 2
[08:13] <kaot> mine shows as wlan0.  belkin F5D7011 pcmcia.  hardest part was finding the right .inf.  they all have the same name,but only one or two work on this nic.  :P
[08:13] <kaot> well
[08:13] <cyny1> SurfnKid isn't supported in 2.6.17?
[08:13] <kaot> that's not quite the same as his then
[08:13] <kaot> isn't that fun?
[08:13] <kaot> lol
[08:13] <soundray> CptAJ: my nick has to do with ultrasound rather than soundcards.
[08:13] <HackerX> hmm
[08:13] <SurfnKid> oh
[08:14] <SurfnKid> HackerX, whats your card again
[08:14] <soundray> CptAJ: do you have a surround setup?
[08:14] <SurfnKid> cyny1, whats not supported?
[08:14] <kaot> his is 4318
[08:14] <kaot> like mien
[08:14] <SurfnKid> kaot, oh didnt see
[08:14] <kaot> but there are different revisions within that
[08:14] <kaot> i've got rev 2
[08:14] <kaot> which was apparently problematic
[08:14] <WhiteNInja> hello all... is there a way to find out the ram-amount of an installed graphic-card? the website of the firm doesnt tell it and I want to know which version I have (nvidia 6600 graphic-card)
[08:14] <cyny1> SurfnKid: i thought that card was supported in kernel 2.6.17
[08:14] <HackerX> its a Dell BCM 4318
[08:14] <HackerX> Broadcom card
[08:14] <CptAJ> soundray: nope, headphones. Regardless, its the same setup as windows and it works fine there.
[08:14] <HackerX> internal
[08:15] <SurfnKid> cyny1, it is i believe but it comes up as eth1 but doesnt register any ssid's or work, its dead
[08:15] <cyny1> SurfnKid: ahh
[08:15] <kaot> HackerX: you're using ndiswrapper then and not bcm43xx?
[08:15] <cyny1> WhiteNInja: look at your xlog it should tell you
[08:15] <kaot> cyny1: it's kind of supported.  not all of the chipset versions work out-of-the-box.
[08:15] <HackerX> umm
[08:15] <WhiteNInja> i will git it a try...
[08:15] <SurfnKid> cyny1, have to do this whole setup again and gie it a shot, im just so stable right now on breezy, i got everything workin, cept APM, and i2c, fan sensor support,but BIOS is taking care of that
[08:16] <cyny1> kaot: ahh
[08:16] <SurfnKid> I was desperate to go on Dapper cuz of XGL/Compiz
[08:16] <HackerX> no i just booted up and then i got ndiswrapper ready but i havent loaded the drivers i think it loaded the bcm driver but it doesnt work just as it said on the site
[08:16] <Stork> is it possible to get java in firefox on 64-bit dapper?
[08:16] <kaot> HackerX: yeah, blacklist the bcm driver
[08:16] <SurfnKid> but I need a complete week and 2 boxes of ibuprofen and then 3 months of therapy to get it going
[08:16] <kaot> they conflict.
[08:16] <HackerX> ok how?
[08:17] <HackerX> sorry the whole linux deal is a little new
[08:17] <HackerX> for me
[08:17] <soundray> CptAJ: go through the alsamixer controls and make sure it doesn't try to give you surround.
[08:17] <kaot> edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and add bcm43xx to the list there
[08:17] <soundray> Stork: yes
[08:17] <SurfnKid> HackerX, dont worry, nothin to be sorry about, I am a newby, only here for 3 months and have learned a lot
[08:17] <kaot> HackerX: using gedit or pico or whatever editor you like.  sudo it.
[08:17] <Stork> soundray, is there like a tutorial on it?
[08:17] <soundray> Stork: oops, you said firefox. No, there is no plugin.
[08:17] <kaot> I've been on linux since 2000, took a year and a half off when my last working box bit the dust, now I'm like re-noobed
[08:17] <CptAJ> soundray: good idea
[08:17] <kaot> it's weird.
[08:18] <SurfnKid> cyny1, my Vaio works with the Prism wlan-ng driver
[08:18] <__mikem> Ive been using linux since a bit before christmas, Am I still considered a newbie
[08:18] <kaot> people ask questions and i'm like "i used to know that....uh...."
[08:18] <soundray> Stork: some people have managed to install 32bit firefox in amd64 machines.
[08:18] <cyny1> SurfnKid: i'm using the hostap stuff
[08:18] <SurfnKid> ah
[08:18] <Stork> soundray, yikes.
[08:18] <soundray> Stork: the clean way to do that is in a 32bit chroot environment, but it works direct, too, apparently.
[08:18] <WhiteNInja> cyny1: it works... the simplest method seems always be the best *laughing.. merc
[08:18] <WhiteNInja> i
[08:19] <HackerX> ok sorry but im slighly lost here
[08:19] <soundray> Stork: as for me, I am just converting my amd64 installation to i386 for more compatibility :(
[08:19] <SurfnKid> cyny1, do u know of a good prism usb ethernet adapter that is b/g?  the current one i have is WUSB12 by linksys with Prism driver
[08:19] <cyny1> SurfnKid: nope don't have the $$$ for looking at new hardware
[08:19] <cyny1> WhiteNInja what now?
[08:19] <SurfnKid> cyny1, hehe thats it... me neither
[08:20] <kaot> HackerX: open up a terminal window and do "sudo pico /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist", then just add "blacklist bcm43xx" to the bottom of that list, ctrl-x to exit and hit "y" to save
[08:20] <monomaniacpat> !automatix
[08:20] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[08:20] <cyny1> any one know the C flags X is compiled with in ubuntu?
[08:20] <SurfnKid> but with linux, heck u can get old stuff going
[08:20] <HackerX> ohhhh ok thanks
[08:20] <bipolar> I'm trying to figure out how to add the USB serial ports on an AirCard 580 to udev so that the usbserial module gets loaded with the correct options. Any guides on how to do that?
[08:20] <SurfnKid> Dont forget the France vs Portugal game guys
[08:20] <gdb> Instead of Automatix, try using EasyUbuntu.  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[08:20] <WhiteNInja> cyny1: there is the ram-amount mentioned.. but I am not sure whether it is simply the amount given from dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, though
[08:21] <SurfnKid> im goin to eat, bbl
[08:21] <kaot> SurfnKid: yeah, well, my tv's unplugged, i'm outof outlets  :(
[08:21] <cyny1> WhiteNInja: in your xorg log file?
[08:21] <WhiteNInja> y
[08:21] <skybox> !
[08:21] <SurfnKid> UHF,VHF, they gotta pick up
[08:21] <inrelief> cyny1, (former?) gentoo user?
[08:22] <kaot> mmm..  gentoo.  the pain, oh the pain.
[08:22] <kaot> hehe
[08:22] <SurfnKid> dude
[08:22] <SurfnKid> i was going to say just dat
[08:22] <SurfnKid> eww
[08:22] <HackerX> Ok how do i save that?
[08:22] <kaot> it wasn't bad.  except for 8-hour long KDE-libs compiles that would bail with errors at the end because someone forgot to change some symlinks or whatever.  lol
[08:22] <inrelief> kaot, haha, agreed.  used gentoo replaced debian on my boxes for the last couple yeras (not sure why)....ubuntu brought me back to good ol apt-get package management
[08:23] <docgnome> is there a script that is run when you log in? I'm trying to set the background in sawfish using feh, but it doesn't seem to be running my .xsession or .xintrc files
[08:23] <kaot> HackerX: when you ctrl-x it'll prompt to save, hit "y" and you're good
[08:23] <CptAJ> soundray: found something. Nothing to do with soundtrack but apparently theres a "tone" setting you can either enable or disable
[08:23] <ToHellWithGA> how can i get the total size of all files in a directory using a terminal?
[08:23] <CptAJ> soundray: not sure what it does but it suddenly gave me a lot of amplification
[08:23] <soundray> CptAJ: does it help?
[08:23] <kaot> HackerX: that'll get you back to a prompt.  when you reboot, bcm43xx won't load and get in the way of ndiswrapper.
[08:23] <soundray> CptAJ: ah, okay
[08:23] <kaot> ToHellWithGA: du -h /directory/
[08:23] <ToHellWithGA> thanks
[08:23] <CptAJ> soundray: thanks for pointing me in the right direction ;)
[08:23] <cyny1> inrelief: current gentoo user, but i have a machine that is going to take about 3 days to update, the reason i ask is that the CPU in there the TM5800 has a bug in the code morphing softwear that causes X to crash
[08:24] <cyny1> WhiteNInja: should be what it detects unless its specified in your xork.conf
[08:24] <HackerX> damn it
[08:24] <HackerX> no space
[08:24] <emilis> cyny: do u know the name of the firefox extension I need to get from addons?
[08:24] <kaot> ToHellWithGA: du -hc /directory/ for the grand total at the bottom, sorry.
[08:24] <kaot> HackerX: wha?!
[08:25] <HackerX> i wanted to make sure i could get this to work b4 i installed
[08:25] <HackerX> ehh
[08:25] <cyny1> emilis: search for useragent
[08:25] <kaot> HackerX: oh you doing this witha  livecd or something?
[08:25] <SurfnKid> see i learned somethin new too with du -h
[08:25] <HackerX> yes
[08:25] <HackerX> i want to know that it will work
[08:25] <ToHellWithGA> thanks kaot
[08:25] <HackerX> but
[08:25] <kaot> oh jeez.
[08:25] <kaot> lol
[08:25] <HackerX> i guess i will just have to do it
[08:25] <SurfnKid> and the learnin continues!
[08:25] <HackerX> i can always go back
[08:26] <HackerX> heh
[08:26] <kaot> HackerX: you got a backup ethernet connection to get you online while you mess with this?
[08:26] <HackerX> yea yea yea
[08:26] <ToHellWithGA> looks like du -hac does the best for me, giving file sizes and directory total
[08:26] <ompaul> the spyware will welcome you with open ports
[08:26] <HackerX> oh tyea
[08:26] <HackerX> im on that right now
[08:26] <HackerX> plus the other two computers
[08:26] <kaot> HackerX: it'll work, eventually, but it's a pain.  breezy took me a few hours, after i upgraded to dapper i almost curbstomped my laptop
[08:26] <kaot> but it worked eventually
[08:27] <kaot> it'll work.  :\
[08:27] <kaot> HackerX: i think i might have the right driver for your nic right here, in fact.  so you're kind of lucky.
[08:27] <amarokker> Hi, where can i find all the gdm themes I've downloaded and installed- i've already re-installed ubuntu since the last time i downloaded the files....they seem to be still somewhere on the system- i cant find it though
[08:27] <kaot> actually i've got like 5 different drivers sitting around from various attempts
[08:27] <kaot> hehe
[08:27] <amarokker> perhaps in /usr/share/?
[08:28] <HackerX> yea, i was just so sick of windows plus i have been wanting to goto linux forever but no wireless stoped me
[08:28] <HackerX> so if this works it will be great
[08:28] <soundray> amarokker: if you've reinstalled, they will have been deleted -- unless you have a separate /home partition
[08:28] <HackerX> and the irc channel is great i wont have to worry about not being able to do somthing
[08:28] <idefix> how do you execute an evolution mail advanced search ?
[08:28] <HackerX> What driver do you have?
[08:28] <amarokker> soundray: i do.
[08:28] <whitesuit> what should i press to get a shell when the computer is starting?
[08:28] <amarokker> in .themes?
[08:29] <HackerX> i got the one from the dell site
[08:29] <HackerX> like the note said
[08:29] <SurfnKid> du -c rocks
[08:29] <kaot> HackerX: yeah that one didn't work for me.  it might for you
[08:29] <Toge> do you know what enemy territory channel is?
[08:29] <HackerX> Kaot, Do you have aim?
[08:29] <kaot> HackerX: for some reason teh driver that worked under breezy didn't work under dapper.  the one that eventually worked under dapper was from Acer, and it reversed the function lights on my card (power is activity, vice versa), but it works
[08:30] <DarkProphet> hey all, whats the exact name of the X11 source packages ?
[08:30] <soundray> amarokker: check your $HOME/Desktop directory then -- firefox puts downloads in there by default.
[08:30] <SonicChao> HackerX: Back?
[08:30] <kaot> HackerX: no, sorry.  I mean, i've got an aim nick laying around somewhere but I never use it, i swore off instant messaging years ago
[08:30] <HackerX> hmm yea all i want is for it to work i dont care what it looks like
[08:30] <SonicChao> HackerX: Did KNetworkManager work?
[08:30] <HackerX> no
[08:30] <HackerX> tryed that
[08:30] <HackerX> no good
[08:31] <HackerX> Hmm
[08:31] <SonicChao> HackerX: Sorry, I was the one that told you to do that...
[08:31] <SonicChao> HackerX: I recognized your nick
[08:31] <HackerX> OHHH
[08:31] <HackerX> yea
[08:31] <HackerX> yep it didnt work
[08:31] <HackerX> i ended up reading that i need to use ndiswrapper online
[08:31] <SonicChao> HackerX: I donno what else to do, just keep asking around, or post to the forums...
[08:31] <ompaul> !enter
[08:31] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:32] <HackerX> well Kato is helping me with ndiswrapper
[08:32] <HackerX> im sure it will work
[08:32] <cyny1> ubotu food
[08:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about food
[08:32] <cyny1> ubitu botsnack
[08:32] <SonicChao> cyny1: Don't abuse the bot.
[08:32] <cyny1> kk
[08:32] <HackerX> hah
[08:32] <SonicChao> cyny1: Did you hear me?
[08:32] <kaot> anyone using enlightenment DR17?  is that even usable yet?
[08:33] <cyny1> SonicChao: yes, but i said both before you said anything
[08:33] <SonicChao> cyny1: It should be obvious, I shouldn't HAVE TO say anything, but that's ok. Are you in here because you need Ubuntu help
[08:33] <sys897> I installed the kde packages on ubutnu and it wanted to become my graphics handler and I told it no, now when I reboot I cant get into the gui it comes to the login prompt, but only goes to failsafe....it was saying that no input and I reconfig xorg...but now it just goes to failsafe any ideas?????
[08:33] <HackerX> Kaot, Are you going to be on here for awhile i want to install and you already know whats going on and know what needs to be done
[08:34] <kaot> HackerX: yeh most likely I'll be here
[08:34] <sofromt> hi
[08:34] <SonicChao> sofromt: Hello
[08:34] <HackerX> alright Thanks for your help im going to install right now and ill be back
[08:34] <KBlair> Hello there
[08:34] <kaot> k
[08:34] <kaot> gl
[08:34] <johlin> I'm trying to install fluidgui. It asks me for the path to my java installation (e.g, /usr/java/j2re1.4.0_03). What is the equalivent for ubuntu?
[08:34] <cyny1> SonicChao: well more like i have a question about ubuntu cause i have some "special" hardware that is rather picky
[08:34] <ompaul> sys897, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop << that might help
[08:35] <ckd> what is the diffrent between Kanotix vs Kubuntu ?
[08:35] <Subhuman> ckd, there totally different distributions
[08:35] <sys897> ompaul ok I will try that brb
[08:35] <Subhuman> jus both use the same desktop.
[08:35] <sofromt> i have a small problem with a fresh install of dapper, every time i boot into the system i dont get any ip from my router (dhcp). i must "execute /etc/init.d/networking restart" every time, than i get a ip
[08:35] <ckd> but its debian ?
[08:35] <Stormx2> #ubuntu-trivia everyone!!
[08:36] <SonicChao> Stormx2: No spamming.
[08:36] <ckd> i heard, that kanotix is much faster
[08:36] <Stormx2> SonicChao: Please stay on topic
[08:37] <SonicChao> lol
[08:37] <SonicChao> cyny1: lol
[08:37] <squidgy> Hi! Sometimes accidentally 'cat'ing a file in gnome terminal makes the text switch to weird symbol characters.  Is there a way to reset this?
[08:37] <monomaniacpat> the guys in #kubuntu are ignoring me... Does anyone know where the kde joystick app save's it calibration to?
[08:37] <sys897> ompaul well it says that I have the newest desktop no good next idea?>
[08:38] <kaot> squidgy: just do reset'
[08:38] <kaot> squidgy: don't worry that you can't see it, just type it and enter, it should reset the terminal
[08:38] <ompaul> sys897, so >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<< gave you no improvement?
[08:38] <kaot> squidgy: p.s. don't cat binaries  ;)
[08:38] <sys897> ompaul done that no good next
[08:39] <soundray> squidgy: just enter 'reset' (even if it looks weird)
[08:39] <squidgy> kaot: Worked great.  Thanks!  (The binary catting was accidental...I was catting a serial port device that should've had ASCII GPS data, but I did the wrong one.)
[08:39] <SonicChao> monomaniacpat: They aren't ignoring you, they probably don't know the answer......
[08:40] <FunnyLookinHat> I'm setting up a very basic X server on my ubuntu server install and did an install xserver-xorg and configured it but it's telling Fatal server error: "Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'"
[08:40] <ompaul> sys897, is it gdm as the login manger
[08:40] <FunnyLookinHat> What package do I have to install to fix that??
[08:40] <Blissex> FunnyLookinHat: the 'misc' fonts.
[08:40] <soundray> FunnyLookinHat: basic font packages probably.
[08:41] <Shawn0331> Has anyone got Ubuntu to work with the newer Intel Macs?
[08:41] <FunnyLookinHat> Blissex, soundray :   know what package name to throw to apt-get install  ?
[08:41] <Blissex> FunnyLookinHat: use 'aptitude' or 'apt-cache search fonts misc'
[08:42] <johlin> I can get midi to work, with fluidsynth, but all drums are converted to piano. I know it's not the soundfonts fault (I've used it in windows and tried another one with fluidsynth). Are there any alternatives to fluidsynth?
[08:42] <soundray> FunnyLookinHat: you probably want the x-window-system-core metapackage.
[08:42] <FunnyLookinHat> soundray, yea it's telling me that one isn't found...  strange.
[08:42] <FunnyLookinHat> I'll poke around for a bit, thanks
[08:42] <FunnyLookinHat> Ahh typo
[08:42] <FunnyLookinHat> w00t
[08:42] <soundray> !info x-window-system-core
[08:42] <ubotu> x-window-system-core: X Window System core components. In repository main, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 36 kB
[08:42] <SonicChao> johlin: I used Easy Ubuntu to get 'midi' to work for me
[08:43] <FunnyLookinHat> thanks soundray Blissex   : )
[08:43] <SonicChao> johlin: ever heard of it?
[08:43] <vincent_> nope
[08:43] <zorro>  possivel imprimir de pcs windows em impressoras instaldas em linux pela rede ?
[08:44] <johlin> SonicChao: I used it a few days ago. What do you mean with works? Can you just select a midi output in a midi program and you hear sound? Or do you have to fiddle around with settings somewhere?
[08:44] <SonicChao> johlin: It worked fine for me, I was just wondering if you used it or not
[08:44] <SonicChao> johlin: I'll search the forums and tell you if I find anything
[08:44] <erUSUL> !midi
[08:44] <ubotu> Trouble playing midi files? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[08:45] <johlin> erUSUL and SonicChao: thanks
[08:45] <SonicChao> erUSUL: thanks, now I don't have to search forums ;)
[08:45] <erUSUL> johlin: no problem thanks to ubotu though
[08:45] <jerusalem420> i upgraded to dapper and now when ever i try to enter the chat at http://cannabishounds.com/chat/dualchat.htm i can put in a chat name and log in but then the applet dies. how can i fix this?
[08:46] <ompaul> !br
[08:46] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[08:46] <ompaul> ahh
[08:46] <SonicChao> jerusalem420: Let me try it, and if it doesn't work for me....I'll tell you.....
[08:46] <johlin> erUSUL: I tried timidity yesterday, and while using guitar pro with wine at the same time made the playback veeery laggy. Does running it as root improve performance much?
[08:46] <jerusalem420> thanks sonicchao thats why i gave the url
[08:47] <SonicChao> jerusalem420: No problem.
[08:47] <erUSUL> johlin: i've never used it but i do not think so...
[08:47] <jerusalem420> so how can i diagnose the problem?
[08:48] <SonicChao> jerusalem420: Applet just killed my browser.
[08:48] <jerusalem420> yah!
[08:48] <jerusalem420> makes me feel a lot better
[08:48] <SonicChao> jerusalem420: It's not your machine....I think it will happen with every Ubuntu install...
[08:48] <cyny1> okay so no one knows anything about the way Xorg is compiled for ubuntu?
[08:48] <jerusalem420> but now how can we figure out what to do?
[08:48] <jerusalem420> I NEED to get into those chats. I live there.
[08:48] <SonicChao> jerusalem420: Do you know if the applet runs off IRC?
[08:49] <jerusalem420> not to my knowledge
[08:49] <SonicChao> jerusalem420: Sometimes, they use applets for IRC channels
[08:49] <johlin> erUSUL: now it's almost fine when I'm running as myself. As root might be alright.
[08:50] <jerusalem420> so its a bug in dapper in some way shape or form?
[08:50] <SonicChao> jerusalem420: Ask them for an exacutable .jre file
[08:50] <SonicChao> jerusalem420: they may have one
[08:50] <SonicChao> jerusalem420: a .jre file is an applet in stand-alone form...
[08:50] <gripshine> ok I am in failsafe now in cli, how can I remove or uninstall kde from cli?
[08:51] <Subhuman> jerusalem420, is it IRC chat? if so use x-chat.
[08:51] <Stork> SonicChao, are you sure you don't mean a .jar ?
[08:51] <jerusalem420> no its not IRC
[08:51] <SonicChao> jerusalem420: Sorry, .jar
[08:51] <jerusalem420> i'm checking the companies web site
[08:51] <SonicChao> Stork: Thanks for correcting me
[08:51] <Stork> no problem
[08:51] <jerusalem420> thanks for idea
[08:51] <Subhuman> jerusalem420,
[08:51] <Subhuman> it says "Dualchat will be down till the problem is corrected."
[08:51] <Subhuman> theres a problem with the service
[08:51] <gripshine> ok I am in failsafe now in cli, how can I remove or uninstall kde from cli?
[08:52] <Subhuman> gripshine, "sudo apt-get remove kde"
[08:52] <SonicChao> Subhuman: me and jerusalem420 didn't even get that far, it killer my browser, and they're browser
[08:52] <erUSUL> gripshine: sudo apt-get remove --purge kde*
[08:52] <cyny1> does ubuntu provide the scripts that were used to build a package?
[08:52] <gripshine> Subhuman: and erUSUL thanks trying that now
[08:52] <Subhuman> SonicChao, works for me in opera 9
[08:53] <erUSUL> cyny1: i think so. if you have the deb-src repos you can dl the source version of a package and compile it yourself afaik
[08:53] <SonicChao> jerusalem420: OH, the problem probably is, we may both be using Firefox
[08:53] <SonicChao> Subhuman: I'm also going to try in Opera
[08:53] <soundray> cyny1: yes. You need the deb-src in /etc/apt/sources.list, then you can run apt-get source package name to get the upstream source and the ubuntu patch
[08:53] <cyny1> soundray: hmm
[08:53] <fre4k> is anyone able to view this site - ferrariworld.com .. its uses flash 8 ... is ther a way to install it in ubuntu ..
[08:53] <soundray> cyny1: you're welcome
[08:54] <soundray> :)
[08:54] <cyny1> soundray: may never get that far into the install then....
[08:54] <califfo> how can I reinstall dpkg while getting this error: /usr/bin/dpkg-deb: /usr/bin/dpkg-deb: cannot execute binary file?
[08:54] <PacketScan> works just fine for me.
[08:55] <jerusalem420> nope sonic i tried it in konqueror too
[08:55] <fre4k> PacketScan, u refering to the site ?
[08:57] <SonicChao> jerusalem420: what version of Java are you using?
[08:57] <jryer> QUICK- How do I change keyboard language config to Spanish?
[08:57] <jerusalem420> jre1.5.0_02 is thaty the mostt current?
[08:57] <erUSUL> califfo: i think that there is a chicken egg problem you can not install anything without dpkg afaik
[08:57] <SonicChao> jerusalem420: Yes...it is...I was just making sure you were
[08:58] <califfo> erUSUL, so I have to reinstall my Kubuntu?
[08:59] <jerusalem420> this sucks.
[08:59] <jerusalem420> i appreciate the help sonicchao
[08:59] <jerusalem420> and others
[08:59] <_Arvydas_> Hello, I have a problem, I have installed Ubuntu in a different hard disk than windows...how I do to configure GRUB for dual boot please?
[08:59] <jerusalem420> i'm off to bed. its getting late here
[08:59] <jerusalem420> be well
[09:00] <lessthn0> i'm on high speed internet and everytime i go to download since yesterday seems that every copy is bad??????
[09:00] <synjet> Arvydas: where did you have the MBR install?
[09:00] <SonicChao> jerusalem420: Alright, bye, sorry about the results...:(
[09:00] <jryer> QUICK- How do I change keyboard language config to Spanish?
[09:01] <_Arvydas_> synjet: I installed ubuntu after installing windows, each one in different hard disks
[09:01] <ompaul> lessthn0, what are you downloading?
[09:01] <_Arvydas_> synjet: I'm a starter...I don't know what is MBR
[09:01] <lessthn0> ubuntu dapper
[09:01] <lessthn0> 6.06
[09:01] <ompaul> lessthn0, okay, what are you downloading it with ?
[09:01] <lessthn0> i go to burn it and it says its not bootable
[09:02] <synjet> Arvydas: thats fine, but while installing Ubuntu, where did you specify the MBR to be? when I tried, I pointed the MBR to use that of Windows
[09:02] <lessthn0> i'm downloading it off of the site and i've tried through torrent site
[09:02] <ompaul> lessthn0, that was not what I asked, what are you downloading it with, is it some form of Linux or something else?
[09:02] <_Arvydas_> synjet: it didn't gave me the chance to specify that option...
[09:02] <lessthn0> azureus and reg. dload through the unofficial site
[09:02] <_Arvydas_> synjet: I supose it is at the same hard disk where i installed
[09:03] <ompaul> jrattner1, system prefereces keyboard
[09:03] <jrattner1> ompaul, ?
[09:03] <ompaul> jrattner1, sorry the tab of typo
[09:03] <ompaul> jryer,  sorry the tab of typo
[09:03] <ompaul> jryer,  sorry the tab of typo
[09:03] <synjet> hmmn I dont remember where that option comes..  I guess after partitioning.. because when I removed ubuntu, the grup got screwed but could recover using Win rescue CD
[09:04] <_Arvydas_> So why I cant dual boot?
[09:04] <ompaul> jryer, system prefereces keyboard
[09:04] <lessthn0> i'm using windows right now and i'm using azureus to download through a torrent site
[09:04] <ala> hello
[09:04] <synjet> because Win GRUB is master..
[09:04] <ompaul> lessthn0, I was redrafting the question
[09:04] <jryer> ompaul : and then what?
[09:05] <Spy_> hey all
[09:05] <ala> anyone uses Ubuntu on Dell C400 subnotebook?
[09:05] <lessthn0> sorry i'm out of it i've been fighting with this since yesterday
[09:05] <lessthn0> and i want it bad
[09:05] <ompaul> jryer, sorry what I meant to type was - system administration languages
[09:06] <tufsy> hi guys
[09:06] <ompaul> lessthn0, okay there are two things you want to know
[09:07] <ompaul> lessthn0, the first is this - you are not burning a file - you are burning an iso these are different settings I don't know anything about burning under windows but I will get you a url and the second is this - burn it slowly like 4x or 6x
[09:07] <jryer> ompaul : okay, i am there in Language support. Now what?
[09:07] <tufsy> my smp 686 kernel is making one of my cpus go up to 100% continuously [seems to be the wireless]  - now when i reboot into a 386 kernel [not smp]  the one cpu working is only on 5% ish. is there a way of using two cpus [smp]  with a 386 kernel?
[09:07] <lessthn0> ok maybe i was burning faster than i should and yes it was ISO
[09:07] <ompaul> jryer, choose the languages you want to be used
[09:08] <ompaul> lessthn0,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[09:08] <_Arvydas_> synjet: look, if I get the menu.lst of the GRUB and insert the lines "title: windows..." and so on, what should I put on "root"? for ubuntu, i can read "hd0, 0" so for windows should be hd1,0?
[09:08] <tufsy> my smp 686 kernel is making one of my cpus go up to 100% continuously [seems to be the wireless]  - now when i reboot into a 386 kernel [not smp]  the one cpu working is only on 5% ish. is there a way of using two cpus [smp]  with a 386 kernel?
[09:08] <jryer> ompaul , btw I have Spanish already installed and selected
[09:08] <nivanson> hi, i have ubuntu dapper drake installed. I want to switch to kubuntu desktop but if I install the kubuntu-desktop package i will still have the dependencies of ubuntu-desktop installed. I would like to clean my apt packages so i have ONLY kubuntu-desktop and it's dependencies installed. Is this possible?
[09:08] <jryer> ompaul, I just want to type in espaniol
[09:09] <top222> What is the password to the default keyring?
[09:09] <tufsy> any help would be appreciated
[09:09] <ompaul> jryer, then it should work when you save with that - also in the keyboard preferences you need to select the spanish keyboard
[09:09] <tufsy> and thanked :)
[09:09] <top222> I've never given it one, and my user's login password it is not
[09:10] <tufsy> and praise :s
[09:10] <tufsy> and praised :s
[09:10] <top222> Where should I go to set the password to the default keyring?
[09:10] <tufsy> pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease
[09:10] <erUSUL> top222: which keyring?
[09:10] <Emil> I've a problem with configuring an Xubuntu (X.org) on my notebook, anyone wants to help?
[09:10] <jryer> ompaul, I don't see where to change language in keyboard preferences. Can you be more specific?
[09:10] <synjet> Arvydas: the hd numbers and locations might vary and be different.. you would have to check your /etc/fstab but playing with GRUB isnt advised..
[09:10] <ompaul> jryer, you should choose the layout needed by the lanuage you want and set it to default
[09:10] <erUSUL> tufsy: maybe the wifi driver is not smp safe (ndiswrapper perhaps?)
[09:11] <tufsy> aaah
[09:11] <top222> erUSUL: Trying to connect to my WLAN, it suddenly popped up a dialog asking me for password to a default keyring.  I've never heard of such thing until now.
[09:11] <BIAF> hi, looking best way to install php as well as way to make sure its not allready installed?
[09:11] <ompaul> BIAF, it won't install if already installed
[09:11] <top222> The application 'nm-applet' wants access to the default keyring, but it is locked
[09:12] <erUSUL> top222: first time for me too...
[09:12] <BIAF> ok  thx
[09:12] <J231> How do i install .bin files/XFCE?
[09:12] <lessthn0> ompaul: i will try burning it slowly thank you for your time
[09:12] <tufsy> hmm erUSUL so how would i go about fixing this?
[09:12] <BIAF> so if its not instaleed, can i apt-get it?
[09:12] <ompaul> BIAF, there are two ways command line and gui - gui is system preferences synaptic
[09:12] <erUSUL> J231: chamod +x *bin; ./*.bin if you must
[09:13] <J231> erUSUL: chmod? Then what :P
[09:13] <jryer> ompaul, You have lost me. I have checked keyboard settings and language prefs and nowhere do I see an option to change my keyboard to Spanish.
[09:13] <dmesg> hi
[09:13] <s|k> what do I do with a .bin file?
[09:13] <tufsy> erUSUL, i tried to kill the ipw3945/0  process - which was taking 100% of one of the cpus
[09:13] <ompaul> jryer, in the prefrences there is a default beside the keyboard option
[09:13] <ompaul> jryer, tick it
[09:13] <rixxon> how again did you set your debconf frontend to interactive
[09:13] <BIAF> ompual : is there another name for 'synaptic' not see it in prefs area
[09:13] <erUSUL> jryer: System>Preferences>keyboard | second tab
[09:13] <dmesg> i did #chmod 666 chmod any ideas how to fix that?
[09:14] <ompaul> BIAF, woops gui is system administration synaptic
[09:14] <SonicChao> !bin
[09:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about bin
[09:14] <erUSUL> tufsy: it is one of he newer intel cards. the ones that need a binary daemon running?
[09:14] <skybox> !dual layer break
[09:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about dual layer break
[09:14] <s|k> ah I have to make it executable
[09:15] <SonicChao> s|k: I think a .bin file is a binary file, I'm not sure what to do with it though
[09:15] <ompaul> dmesg, get a live CD and boot
[09:15] <Tmob> dmesg, exec chmod
[09:15] <BIAF> ompual : thx , in here now, do u know the php file name off hand incase the search returns a ton of stuff
[09:15] <Tmob> as root i guess
[09:15] <detinith> can i pm anyone for tips with partitioning?
[09:15] <tufsy> erUSUL, it is a centrino dell 9400 inspiron machine. so it is new
[09:15] <ompaul> Tmob, no as sudo exec
[09:15] <dmesg> Tmob ok
[09:15] <s|k> SonicChao: I just had to make it executable and run it
[09:16] <tech77> Is it possible to inadvertently wipe a hard drive by plugging the IDE cable in while the computer is running?
[09:16] <tufsy> erUSUL, the wifi light keeps flashing under linux - but under windows it is always lit
[09:16] <ompaul> BIAF, search for php and choose whatever you want
[09:16] <erUSUL> tufsy: then the problem is with that  ipw3945 process no the kernel itself...
[09:16] <Tmob> ompaul, wel i guess thats a given with ubuntu ;)
[09:16] <tufsy> erUSUL, ok so how do i fix it?
[09:16] <sudomania4> why does sed '/COMPLETE /d' /home/me/.xchat2/replace.conf > /home/me/.xchat2/replace.conf not work?
[09:17] <BIAF> ompaul : there is php this and php that, what file is the best php to get
[09:17] <sudomania4> all it does is clear the file
[09:17] <sudomania4> not write in the output
[09:17] <sudomania4> sed '/COMPLETE /d' /home/me/.xchat2/replace.conf works
[09:17] <erUSUL> tech77: maybe... if there is some strange electric interaction or static elect. discharge... never happened to me though (done that acouple of times)
[09:17] <detinith> linux can read ntfs right?
[09:17] <sudomania4> but i want the output of sed '/COMPLETE /d' /home/me/.xchat2/replace.conf written to /home/me/.xchat2/replace.conf
[09:17] <gdb> sudomania4: Because you truncated the file to 0 bytes with your first command.
[09:17] <s|k> yay google earth on linux!
[09:17] <sudomania4> gdb, no
[09:17] <s|k> it works ;)
[09:18] <gdb> sudomania4: Yes
[09:18] <Tmob> Determinist, yes
[09:18] <erUSUL> tufsy: i do not know... maybe you can download a newer version of the daemon or use a nwer kernel
[09:18] <Tmob> !ntfs
[09:18] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[09:18] <sudomania4> gdb, well, what should command be?
[09:18] <detinith> woot
[09:18] <erUSUL> detinith: no
[09:18] <nicktk1> ello'
[09:18] <tufsy> erUSUL, how do i get a newer kernel under ubuntu?
[09:18] <jme> Anyone get an Atmel wireless card to work properly?
[09:18] <tech77> erUSUL, I had two hard drives -- one was backups (30gb of very important data) and the other was being reformatted. I had to unplug the 30gb during installation (long story), but I plugged it back in when the computer was on. I mounted it and checked on Windows, both show 0 files, 100% empty space
[09:18] <tech77> erUSUL, This is honestly a nightmare
[09:19] <gdb> sudomania4: Redirect the output to another file and then move it into place after sed is done.  sed opens the output file prior to editing so when you redirect the output of sed to the input of sed, the net effect is that you truncate the file to 0 bytes.  Use another output file.
[09:19] <nicktk1> anyone know how to get a linksys wirless g version 4 workin
[09:19] <gdb> sed 'stuff' inputfile > outputfile && mv outputfile inputfile
[09:19] <gdb> or something along those lines
[09:20] <sudomania4> ok gdb
[09:20] <sudomania4> ill try that
[09:20] <tech77> erUSUL, So basically is the bottom line that I am terminally screwed?
[09:20] <sudomania4> thanks
[09:20] <gdb> sudomania4: :-)
[09:20] <rixxon> how do you set debconf to interactive
[09:20] <nicktk1> yea cuz inless i set up the wirless network...nothin is gonna happen
[09:20] <tufsy> erUSUL, how do i get a newer kernel under ubuntu?
[09:20] <rixxon> i did it once to be able to install vmware-player package, but forgot what i did :P
[09:21] <nicktk1> so if anyone knows how to install that wireless card
[09:21] <tufsy> !kernel
[09:21] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:22] <grodius> I love ubuntu
[09:22] <erUSUL> tech77: well... are you runnig the computer with the important drive attached?
[09:22] <grodius> continue your conversation
[09:22] <nicktk1> its a wirless linksys g
[09:22] <tech77> erUSUL, yes, it is physically inside the case
[09:22] <erUSUL> tech77: are you running linux?
[09:22] <tech77> erUSUL, and connected...
[09:22] <tech77> erUSUL, Yeah, in Ubuntu now
[09:23] <rixxon> how to set debconf frontend to dialog, permanently?
[09:23] <nicktk1> version 4 and i dont know how it install onto linux
[09:23] <skybox> okay..... is there ANY gui/no gui/frontend that supports DUAL LAYER BREAK?
[09:23] <lurker99> gdb, sudomania4 : man sed shows -> -i  [ edit in place ] 
[09:23] <FlimFlamMan> i'm editing a file with gedit over an ssh connection logged in as root - is there any way to preserve file ownership on the file i'm editing?  owner keeps getting chenged to root.
[09:23] <tech77> erUSUL, "cd /media/hda1;ls" == nothing...ugh!
[09:23] <erUSUL> tech77: can you post in pastebin the output of fdisk -l /dev/hdx (the los drive)
[09:23] <nivanson> !aptitude
[09:23] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the depends installed with a package and can remove them if you uninstall. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[09:23] <erUSUL> lost
[09:23] <nicktk1> anyone know
[09:24] <tech77> erUSUL, I type the command and the command prompt just comes up again, no output from the program
[09:24] <sudomania4> ok lurker99, thanks
[09:24] <erUSUL> tech77: did it with sudo?
[09:24] <hctibtipots> any1 know of any software to encode 2 .avi files into a dvd format??
[09:24] <tech77> erUSUL, No. I just did it with SUDO, entered password and, again, the cmd prompt just came up again
[09:25] <nicktk1> anyone know how to install a linksys wirless g adapter
[09:25] <sudomania4> w00t!
[09:25] <sudomania4> it worked
[09:25] <BIAF> how do you start php once its installed
[09:25] <erUSUL> tech77: so it seems that there is no partitions...
[09:25] <sudomania4> thanks lurker99
[09:26] <erUSUL> tech77: sudo apt-get install gpart
[09:26] <MrDuck> hello, i have a problem with my ensoniq soundcard, which i tried to install with alsa. aplay works fine and even vlc when i take over the computer from distance with SSH. but in gnome it won't output any sound!! anyone help? thx
[09:26] <MrDuck> @BIAF restart your apache
[09:26] <BIAF> thx
[09:26] <tech77> erUSUL, done
[09:26] <hctibtipots> any1 know of any software to encode 2 .avi files into a dvd format??
[09:27] <Kibou> rixxon: dialog is the default.. by default. otherwise sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf
[09:27] <loko555> hctibtipots> try avidemux, there is an ubuntu deb on its website
[09:27] <nicktk1> i need to set up a wirless linksys g adapter......can i get some help
[09:28] <hctibtipots> loko555: i have tried that but no luck
[09:28] <mikewashere05> hey guys problem :-/
[09:28] <nicktk1> the normal software dosent work
[09:28] <mikewashere05> i'm trying to install binutils
[09:28] <tech77> erUSUL, I ran the command on the /media/ directory for the hard drive, it says: *** Fatal error: cannot get sector size on dev(/media/hda1).
[09:28] <mikewashere05> but it says that it can't determine the size of a long long
[09:28] <loko555> what does mean no luck?
[09:28] <mikewashere05> it was working yesterday, and the only thing I changed since then was my PATH
[09:28] <erUSUL> tech77: run gpart /dev/hdx
[09:29] <mikewashere05> and my PATH is now /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/usr/local/avr/bin
[09:29] <hctibtipots> it wont let me do 2 files at once...
[09:29] <tech77> erUSUL, *** Fatal error: open(/dev/hda): No such file or directory. (same for /dev/hda1)
[09:29] <sudomania4> that works from the command line
[09:29] <sudomania4> but i want to turn it into a nautilus script
[09:29] <sudomania4> why doesnt http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17276 work?
[09:29] <erUSUL> tech77: what is the device of the faulty drive?
[09:30] <loko555> hctibtipots> you have to open the first file, then select "append" and choose the second one to put the files together
[09:30] <erUSUL> tech77: /dev/hda??
[09:30] <hctibtipots> kkk
[09:30] <hctibtipots> will try that
[09:30] <sudomania4> neither of those two scripts work
[09:30] <tech77> erUSUL, It should be, yes
[09:31] <Pistahh> hi
[09:31] <nicktk1> i need help installing a wirless linksys g adapter can i get some help
[09:31] <tech77> erUSUL, /dev/hdb is my SATA drive, so /dev/hda should be the one
[09:31] <pradeep> isn;'t SATA sxx ?
[09:31] <pradeep> /dev/sdx
[09:31] <skybox> is there ANY gui/no gui/frontend that supports DUAL LAYER BREAK?
[09:31] <Pistahh> on my system the vino server segfaults in some cases. Is there a standard way to build a debuggable version of a package so I can find out where it segfaults? (gcc -g, etc)
[09:32] <MrDuck> hello, i have a problem with my ensoniq soundcard, which i tried to install with alsa. aplay works fine and even vlc when i take over the computer from distance with SSH. but in gnome it won't output any sound!! anyone help? thx
[09:32] <erUSUL> tech77: to make sure 'dmesg | grep hd'
[09:32] <BIAF> mrduck : any sure way to check that php5 is installed
[09:33] <hctibtipots> loko555: can you give me a hand in converting to dvd format??
[09:33] <nicktk1> i need help installing a wirless linksys g adapter please
[09:33] <loko555> shoot
[09:33] <loko555> i'll try
[09:33] <erUSUL> tech77: paste it pastebin
[09:33] <tech77> erUSUL, http://pastie.caboo.se/3455
[09:33] <hctibtipots> ok i got the 2 files loaded and now im lost as what to do...
[09:34] <sudomania4> anyone? im trying to make a nautilus script that will work like sed -i '/COMPLETE /d' /home/me/.xchat2/replace.conf from the command line, only workk with whatever file you have selected in nautilus. neither of these http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17276 work
[09:34] <hctibtipots> im a noob...
[09:34] <sean> hi im having trouble getting into ubuntu on my powerbook i can only get to the terminal any takers?
[09:35] <erUSUL> tech77: try sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb and paste it to pastebin
[09:35] <loko555> click the video-button and choos dvd
[09:35] <MrDuck> @BIAF try it out :P make a page.php and put only <? phpinfo(); ?> in it.. visit the page tell me the result
[09:35] <BIAF> i did, it tryed to dnload the index.php
[09:35] <BIAF> i use webmin, not showing up in there
[09:36] <tech77> erUSUL, http://pastie.caboo.se/3457
[09:36] <sudomania4> nm
[09:36] <sudomania4> i fixed it
[09:36] <sudomania4> thanks again all
[09:36] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[09:36] <Pistahh> on my system the vino server segfaults in some cases. Is there a standard way to build a debuggable version of a package so I can find out where it segfaults? (gcc -g, etc)
[09:36] <wubrgamer> i just installed amaroK
[09:36] <Pistahh> (sorry for asking here, maybe you know it)
[09:36] <hctibtipots> there is no dvd in there
[09:36] <loko555> hctibtipots> click configure and choose two pass bitrate like you want it
[09:36] <lurker99> sean: tried boot option of 'acpi=off'  ?
[09:36] <erUSUL> tech77: try sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /mnt/
[09:36] <nicktk1> i need help installing a wirless linksys g adapter can i get some help
[09:37] <MrDuck> how did you install it?
[09:37] <ompaul> BIAF, na what he wants you to do is http://locahost/index.php
[09:37] <nicktk1> i didnt
[09:37] <m6s> has anyone hp1100 and 6.06 ubuntu???
[09:37] <thomas_> hey! how do i upgrade to dapper drake?
[09:37] <sean> lurker which is that?
[09:37] <nicktk1> i cant
[09:37] <erUSUL> !upgrade
[09:37] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[09:37] <tech77> erUSUL, http://pastie.caboo.se/3459
[09:37] <m6s> I have a very  big question, Why I can't print not even the test page!!!
[09:37] <m6s> ?
[09:37] <MrDuck> @ompaul: possible that it isnt defined as webpage type in apache2.conf
[09:37] <thomas_> thanks :)
[09:37] <loko555> hctibtipots> klick on help-> show built-in in avidemux
[09:37] <mikewashere05> I've been trying to install the GNU tool chain for the past 3 days and still can't get it. I love ubuntu but I really need to get work done :(
[09:38] <hctibtipots> kkk thanx loko555
[09:38] <erUSUL> tech77: sudo ls /mnt/
[09:38] <mikewashere05> When I try to make the binutils I get "configure: error: cannot determine a size for long long"
[09:38] <ompaul> MrDuck, when the page index.php is put in place it pulls the data - yo uwrite it put it in /var/www/whereverbelowhere
[09:38] <sean> failsafe terminal is the only one that works
[09:38] <loko555> what donT you have
[09:38] <nicktk1> i need help installing a wirless linksys g adapter can i get some help
[09:38] <lurker99> !boot
[09:38] <tech77> erUSUL, same thing
[09:38] <ubotu> Boot options: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[09:38] <hctibtipots> dvd under vieo
[09:38] <sean> i get error code 3
[09:38] <lurker99> !grub
[09:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:38] <deformative> Dose anyone know of a boot disk that I can use to boot sda,  my bios dose not support it.
[09:39] <mikewashere05> im going back to windows
[09:39] <wubrgamer> amaroK isn't detecting my iPod
[09:39] <m6s> some one with a hp1100 printer ? :-(
[09:39] <jstew> Hi. I want to create a raid10 array with 4 disks. Is the preferred way to do it to create 2 mirrors, then stripe them? What about the raid10 support for mdadm? I can't seem to find docs for it.
[09:39] <erUSUL> tech77: it seems that you formatted the 30 GB drive and not the other... :(
[09:39] <loko555> hctibtipots> which version of avidemux do you use?
[09:40] <hctibtipots> 2.1.2
[09:40] <_Arvydas_> Hello, I've installed Windows XP on primary master hard disk, and then ubuntu at secondary master hard disk, how i configure GRUB to dual boot??
[09:40] <MrDuck> ompaul, only if php is correctly installed and apache configured, else it reacts like any other file and makes you download your source :P
[09:40] <synjet>  webrgamer: did you try gtkpod?
[09:40] <tech77> erUSUL, I don't think that is possible, I formatted the other (the one I am on) with NTFS/ext3, not FAT32
[09:40] <sean> what is this bonobo?
[09:40] <nicktk1> i need help installing a wirless linksys g adapter can i get some help
[09:40] <ompaul> MrDuck, well it is kind of hard to install it wrong using synaptic :-)
[09:40] <synjet> !bonobo
[09:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about bonobo
[09:41] <tech77> !lilo
[09:41] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[09:41] <m6s> !hp1100
[09:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about hp1100
[09:41] <loko555> hctibtipots> install the 2.2.0 svn first, its on the website
[09:41] <tech77> !Hp
[09:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about Hp
[09:41] <tech77> !printing
[09:41] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:41] <ompaul> sean, a messaging service inside gnome - that is the shortest way I can do that
[09:41] <gnomefreak> dont play with the bot
[09:41] <spy> hi guys
[09:41] <sean> is says problem registering panel with bonobo-activation-server error code 3
[09:41] <MrDuck> ompaul, well.. didnt know he used that
[09:41] <nicktk1> i need help installing a wirless linksys g adapter can i get some help
[09:41] <pland> hello all
[09:41] <tech77> erUSUL, So basically, whatever happened, it is all gone?
[09:41] <spy> Can sum1 help me i forgot what my admin password is... hehe but i can still access synaptic panel and stuff
[09:41] <nivanson> if you need to ask the bot alot of things; try to /msg it instead and just type what you need to find out about
[09:42] <ompaul> MrDuck, must have been my ace :-)
[09:42] <erUSUL> tech77: but in the hdb disk you have a partition as it where just formatted...
[09:42] <pland> is there a newbie ubuntu channel, or can I ask something here about why software updates is trying to use localhost:8080
[09:42] <ompaul> spy, did you set up a root password?
[09:42] <tech77> erUSUL, What do you mean as it where just formatted? It was always a FAT32 partition
[09:42] <gnomefreak> pland: feel free to ask
[09:42] <spy> i dunno
[09:42] <ompaul> spy, are you trolling
[09:42] <pland> gnomefreak: thank you
[09:42] <spy>  cant remember,
[09:42] <jstew> pland: looks like you have a proxy set up? or have configured your system that way?
[09:42] <gnomefreak> lmao
[09:43] <Aven> hey
[09:43] <tech77> erUSUL, The reason Recycled is there is because I booted Windows and tried to access the drive and in disbelief I created a test file and deleted it
[09:43] <nicktk1> i need help installing a wirless linksys g adapter can i get some help
[09:43] <sean> its an error with nautilus failing to boot up
[09:43] <gnomefreak> spy: if your trolling stop
[09:43] <pland> software update is directing dns queries to 10.0.0.2:8080 (my router), and I cannot figure out why
[09:43] <spy> i set ubuntu up for my parents to use so i don't think i created an admin password..
[09:43] <erUSUL> tech77: with my knowledge i can not help you further if the data was important enough you can try with specialiced tools or companies in data recovery
[09:43] <spy> and WTF is trolling?
[09:43] <gnomefreak> spy: sudo apt-get update
[09:43] <gnomefreak> spy: does that work?
[09:43] <pland> I read the forums but no answers. I tweaked sources.list to point to uk mirrors, no luck...
[09:43] <gnomefreak> spy: use your user password
[09:43] <spy> yes it does
[09:43] <nicktk1> i need help installing a wirless linksys g adapter can i get some help
[09:43] <nicktk1> please
[09:43] <pland> apt-get from bash works
[09:43] <gnomefreak> spy: than what is the issue?
[09:44] <tech77> erUSUL, Is it possible to recover ALL of the data with whatever software tools available?
[09:44] <jstew> lol. he knows WTF, but not what trolling is :P
[09:44] <gnomefreak> spy: ubuntu doesnt use su it uses sudo
[09:44] <loko555> hctibtipots> i think you also need mencoder from the repos
[09:44] <spy> well i cant change the permissions on /var/www/ because it is owned by root
[09:44] <nicktk1> grr
[09:44] <spy> i am trying to run LAMP
[09:44] <thomas_> how do i fix the bug with the upgrade manager?
[09:44] <nicktk1> fine illtry on my own
[09:44] <ompaul> spy, for your parents?
[09:44] <pland> can anyone advise?
[09:44] <hctibtipots> loko555:under auto there was dvd, so i selected that and saved the file hopefully that werks
[09:44] <MrDuck> spy: sudo chmod /var/www
[09:44] <loko555> hctibtipots> then it should be there
[09:44] <Stormx2> nicktk1: Whats the problem?
[09:44] <Stormx2> nicktk1: Oh... I read.
[09:44] <nicktk1> i need help installing a wirless linksys g adapter
[09:44] <jstew> pland: what does settings->preferences->network ook like?
[09:44] <Stormx2> nicktk1: Sorry, I really don't know
[09:45] <thomas_> just use ndiswrapper
[09:45] <hctibtipots> its gonna take 2 1/2 hours...
[09:45] <Stormx2> nicktk1: Check wiki.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org
[09:45] <loko555> hctibtipots> where is auto?
[09:45] <_Arvydas_> Hello, I've installed Windows XP on primary master hard disk, and then ubuntu at secondary master hard disk, how i configure GRUB to dual boot??
[09:45] <nicktk1> lright
[09:45] <spy> mrduck:Nice thinking but it says missing operand after /var/www/
[09:45] <MrDuck> spy: *sry* sudo chmod [permission]  /var/www
[09:45] <thomas_> nicktk1: use ndiswarapper, serach the wiki for ndiswrapper
[09:45] <nicktk1> is it possable to copy the files from win
[09:45] <spy> and what would be the correct permission so local user can edit/add/execute
[09:45] <ompaul> !wireless > nicktk1
[09:45] <gnomefreak> spy: man chmod for permissions that can be used
[09:45] <ompaul> nicktk1, readthe message from ubotu
[09:46] <thomas_> anyone know how to fix the bug with the upgrade manager?
[09:46] <gnomefreak> spy: 755 if i remember right
[09:46] <abzde> is the server version of ubuntu, like, the most basic thing that doesn't have a desktop with it?
[09:46] <thomas_> yes
[09:46] <pland> jstew: I can't find that path
[09:46] <gnomefreak> thomas_: search for a bug already filed on launchpad.net
[09:46] <synjet> _Arvydas_: did you check this ubuntuforums post? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56723
[09:46] <nicktk1> danka
[09:46] <gnomefreak> abzde: server install has no gui
[09:46] <loko555> hctibtipots> it should work but i recommend to try out this version: http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=1402
[09:46] <pland> jstew: do you mean from top bar on ubuntu desktop? as in 'System/ADministration/Networking?
[09:47] <abzde> gnomefreak: yay me, now, where do i download kde?
[09:47] <erUSUL> tech77: i can not know for sure but if you do not mess with the drive (format it or create files in it) you can recover most of the data afaik. many people recovers data from second hand hd's bought at ebay. i can not assure nothing but you can try to google around for a software or a company (this will be expensive though) specialist in data recovery. Good luck
[09:47] <gnomefreak> abzde: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:47] <ompaul> abzde, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:47] <pland> jstew: or do you mean software updates' own preferences (which I can't see any network tab there)
[09:47] <spy> gnomefreak : I did that but i still get Could not save the file /var/www/test.php.
[09:47] <abzde> that was scary,,,,
[09:47] <MrDuck> cant use soundcard after install.. nothing comes out :P but aplay works fine and vlc if i use a remote ssh connection
[09:47] <MrDuck> any idea
[09:47] <tech77> erUSUL, Eh, alright. Thanks a lot for your help
[09:48] <jstew> pland: in synaptic
[09:48] <hctibtipots> loko555:what version am i gettin 2.2???
[09:48] <gnomefreak> spy: huh? what do you mean you couldnt save the file chmod doesnt save anything for you
[09:48] <loko555> yes
[09:48] <hctibtipots> kkk
[09:48] <pland> jstew: ah thank you, one mo
[09:49] <MrDuck> gnomefreak, i think he still cant write to the folder
[09:49] <erUSUL> tech77: no problem. sorry for not being more helpful :(
[09:49] <bipolar> I have a usb serial device that requries the usbserial module to be used with a vendor and product id. is there a way I can configure dapper to do this automaticly when the device is inserted?
[09:49] <hctibtipots> loko555:tried installin and sed there is a later version already installed
[09:49] <tech77> erUSUL, I completely understand
[09:50] <spy> chmod doesnt save anything for you--> im using gedit to create php files
[09:50] <gnomefreak> spy: gksudo gedit /var/www/test.php
[09:50] <pland> jstew: some moron (er, me) had pointed synaptic to router for proxy
[09:50] <gnomefreak> spy: use that full command i gave you
[09:50] <pland> jstew: don't understand, I swear I didn't do that
[09:50] <pland> jstew: anyway, works now, much appreciated
[09:50] <abzde> gnomefreak: i did sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop said it didn't find it
[09:50] <loko555> first deinstall your old version
[09:50] <hctibtipots> and how do i go about that???
[09:50] <gnomefreak> abzde: you need to enable repos and get rid of the cdrom repo
[09:50] <gnomefreak> !repos > abzde
[09:51] <hctibtipots> man i feel dumb
[09:51] <gnomefreak> abzde: look at your pm from ubotu
[09:51] <abzde> kay
[09:51] <spy> Thanks gnomefreak that works but what a mission
[09:52] <MrDuck> cant use soundcard after install.. nothing comes out :P but aplay works fine and vlc if i use a remote ssh connection. anyone a clue? thx
[09:52] <pland> bye all
[09:53] <liran_> uhmm, where do i find the 'import' utility to take screenshots from console?
[09:53] <detinith> i have windows os installed on one partition, another partition (formatted ntfs) where i install programs, and around 15gigs of free non-partitioned space. i'm sorta stuck with the espresso partitioner/installer. can anyone help?
[09:54] <loko555> sorry dude i have to go, you can uninstall it with synaptic, enter in a console sudo synaptic
[09:55] <loko555> and then deinstall iz
[09:55] <mr_hus> will kopete 0.12 be added soon to the repositories?
[09:56] <mr_hus> or is there an easy way to install it with dependencies and all..?
[09:57] <johlin> I want to install the rhytmbox plugin for gaim beta, but configure fails because my gaim beta package is named gaim2.0beta1 and not gaim. What should I do?
[09:59] <MrDuck> cant use soundcard in gnome (vlc, xmms...) nothing comes out :P but aplay works fine and vlc if i use a remote ssh connection. anyone a clue? thx
[10:00] <DuDReNoV> hey how do people add showdows to windows
[10:01] <DuDReNoV> I'v seen a lot of screenshots where the windows have shadows sort of like Mac OS does. HOw is that done
[10:01] <abzde> yay for /etc/apt/soruces.list (did i say that right, never used ubuntu before)
[10:02] <cycom> abzde: yup. you're good.  try not to break anything
[10:02] <abzde> :)
[10:03] <abzde> cycom: how do i break stuff with that file?
[10:03] <roostishaw> is there a program like jhymn that will convert my aac files to mp3? and that works with the newest version of itunes?
[10:03] <PFA> anyone know how to rename a bookmark folder in Opera?
[10:03] <impeto> hi to all
[10:03] <abzde> other than uncommenting one of the lines that is telling you what the other lines are?
[10:03] <impeto> Hi Guys someone can help me to learn why my ubuntu dapper don't send multicat udp traffic (239.255.1.40) out of the box?
[10:04] <iLLf8d> anyone get the 6.06LTS to install ok on a mac mini 1.25Ghz G4?
[10:05] <ApocalypticOni> what are the system requirements for ubuntu?
[10:05] <PFA> anyone know how to rename a bookmark folder in Opera?
[10:05] <protocol1> iLLf8d, it should install on that mac just fine
[10:05] <ljlolel> ApocalypticOni: low, do you mean Ubuntu w/ gnome gui?
[10:05] <Jackrazz> When I drag a link from Firefox to the desktop, it adds 'link to' to the shortcut description.  Is there a setting that removes the 'link to' automatically??
[10:06] <iLLf8d> protocol1, yeah it should but it isn't
[10:06] <ljlolel> ApocalypticOni: since you can install it w/o a gui or with xfce instead
[10:06] <cycom> abzde: putting in bat repos and downloading bad files.
[10:06] <iLLf8d> protocol1, I was wondering if anyone has had any success with this particular release?
[10:06] <ApocalypticOni> ya
[10:06] <TeacherTodd813> Can anybody help with an X configuration problem?
[10:06] <Warbo> ApocalypticOni: Linux itself needs hardly anything (maybe a 386 with 16MB RAM. Even less if you try hard) but Ubuntu comes with loads of useful stuff like OpenOffice which you may want about 400MHz+ and 128MB+ RAM
[10:06] <ApocalypticOni> thanks
[10:06] <majd> ubuntu server is non-gui?
[10:06] <ljlolel> ApocalypticOni: if you just want xfce, i think 32mb ram is a minimum
[10:07] <iNiku> PFA: bookmarks -> manage bookmarks?
[10:07] <PFA> iNiku: there is no option to rename a folder
[10:07] <ljlolel> majd: if you install ubuntu-server there is no gui by default
[10:07] <TeacherTodd813> I've got an IBM 8143. The video chipset is "82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller". I still can't get X to start up correctly.
[10:07] <iNiku> PFA: yes there is
[10:07] <PFA> iNiku: where?
[10:07] <iNiku> just right click and select properties
[10:07] <PFA> ugh, what a random place
[10:07] <PFA> thanks
[10:07] <abzde> noone is going to have this but, does anyone here use a linksys wusb11 wireless card with ubuntu, i want to know if it will work
[10:08] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: set Xorg driver to i810
[10:08] <iNiku> np
[10:08] <Snowfairy> I've changed to InitNG, and it's discarded (as expected) the changes I made to inittab, and restored getty's 5 and 6, and either ignores, or because they're now taken, X starts on vt 7 instead of vt5, does anyone know how I configure how many gettys get started when using InitNG?  (I've asked in #InitNG, but the channel appears dead.)
[10:08] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: Yeah. That's what it got set to when I installed. It just doesn't work.
[10:08] <iNiku> I think it's a pretty logical place
[10:09] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: any hints in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[10:09] <TeacherTodd813> Let me look...
[10:09] <apollo2011> Is there an NFS client/server that I can install on Windows? I haven't had much luck with Samba and I have Linux machines I want to network but I also have a couple of Windows XP machines as well.
[10:09] <DuDReNoV> I'v seen a lot of screenshots where the windows have shadows sort of like Mac OS does. HOw is that done
[10:10] <Warbo> DuDReNoV: I think the menus do by default
[10:10] <sponix> umm, wtf is ubuntu still using postgres7.4 ?
[10:10] <DuDReNoV> I mean the actuall windows
[10:10] <ljlolel> sponix: dunno, just remember to apt-get install postgres-8.1
[10:11] <Dial_tone> anyone have any experience with DAT 36/72 tape drives? reliability, speed, etc
[10:11] <synjet> DuDReNoV: did you try looking at ubuntuforums.org?
[10:12] <darkyoshi372> Hi all, when I open video files from inside limewire/frostwire, it opens in mplayer with a status box and no controls. How do I make it open with controls, or even better, to just open in Totem?
[10:12] <Warbo> DuDReNoV: Ah, sorry I thought you meant the OS Windows :) The shadows are done with Composite or Compiz
[10:12] <impeto> anyone has experience with multicast streaming with dapper????
[10:12] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: It says "BIOS call 0x5f05 not supported, setting refresh with VBE 3 method."
[10:13] <DuDReNoV> http://xfce-look.org/content/pre1/38188-1.jpg
[10:13] <DuDReNoV> Shadows like this
[10:13] <Warbo> DuDReNoV: xcompmgr
[10:13] <DuDReNoV> that's composite?
[10:13] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: seems to be a broken bios. there not much you can do. the i810 needs the bios to change video mode.
[10:13] <DuDReNoV> so just apt-get install xcompmgr?
[10:14] <DuDReNoV> and it's al lgood or is there more to it
[10:14] <synjet> DuDReNoV: did you try looking at ubuntuforums.org?
[10:14] <synjet> DuDReNoV: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32398
[10:14] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: Well, there are lots of BIOS settings. Any ideas what I should be using?
[10:14] <leboff> anyone have a good alternative to audacity? its not workin on my laptop..
[10:14] <DuDReNoV> thanks
[10:14] <darkyoshi372> Anyone? When I open video files from inside limewire/frostwire, it opens in mplayer with a status box and no controls. How do I make it open with controls, or even better, to just open in Totem?
[10:14] <Warbo> DuDReNoV: You will need to add a Composite section to your Xorg conf. Composite lets you have shadows and translucent windows
[10:14] <ljlolel> whaoaa
[10:15] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: i didn't mean the bios settings, rather the bios itself. it is faulty. broken. many bioses are.
[10:15] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: So I'm hosed? This is a standard IBM build and it can't run Ubuntu?
[10:15] <ApocalypticOni> I assume that a livecd is by definition laggy. Is this correct?
[10:16] <MrDuck>  cant use soundcard in gnome (vlc, xmms...) nothing comes out :P but aplay works fine and vlc if i use a remote ssh connection. anyone a clue? thx
[10:16] <Barkley> so i have two network cards in a linux machine.  one is connected to another machine through a gigabit cross over cable.  the remote connected machine needs internet access through the 1st network card in the linux box.  what's the most FOOLPROOF and easy way of setting this up?  i keep running into all kinds of issues with dns, nfs mounts not working, etc. and can't quite figure out the exact requirements (separate subnets with connect
[10:16] <Warbo> ApocalypticOni: Yes, mainly since it uses a slow drive and has to use generic settings
[10:16] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: even ibm machines have fucked up bioses, yes
[10:16] <ApocalypticOni> ok, thanks.
[10:16] <Warbo> ApocalypticOni: Oh yeah, and it's compressed :)
[10:16] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: does kernel framebuffer work at least?
[10:16] <Inazad> Hi there, can we mount a .bin ?
[10:17] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: How would I check that?
[10:17] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: cat /proc/fb
[10:17] <darkyoshi372> Does nobody know the answer? When I open video files from inside limewire/frostwire, it opens in mplayer with a status box and no controls. How do I make it open with controls, or even better, to just open in Totem?
[10:17] <leboff> is there an alternative to audacity for audio editing?
[10:17] <Warbo> Inazad: ".bin" just means binary. Usually it is an executable program but it could describe anything
[10:18] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: This one machine is a different model than the rest in my lab. At first, those wouldn't work, but I went into the BIOS and added video memory and they're working like champs, now.
[10:18] <sami> hi! anyone succesfully install flightgear 0.9.10 on dapper?
[10:18] <Warbo> leboff: gnoise is pretty basic
[10:18] <Inazad> Warbo, it's an image from a cd.. I want to emulate it.. how ?
[10:18] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: Unfortunately, the one I can't get working is the fastest and has the only burner.
[10:18] <leboff> Warbo: thanks .. ill try it
[10:18] <cannibalbob> hey.. is there a howto on nice looking fonts in ubuntu?  i'm not running gnome, and all the fonts look horrible.
[10:18] <arooni> folks has anyone been able to get eclipse working with subversion onunbuntu linux?  i get an error that eclipse can't find the javahl package even though its already installed. (i'm using radrails which is an eclipse client)
[10:18] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: Checking /proc/fb now...
[10:19] <Barkley> arooni you might ask in #rubyonrails or #radrails
[10:19] <kristian> Can someone help me with my graphic card?
[10:19] <Warbo> Inazad: If you can convert it to an iso (aks someone else :) ) then you can mount it with the loopback device (mount -o loop) or you can emulate it with qemu
[10:19] <kristian> ati
[10:19] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: 0 VGA16 VGA
[10:19] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: yeah, for shared memory gfx cards, the amount of memory is important. luckily you could set the amount in the bios. many dell bioses offer no setting for that.
[10:19] <erUSUL> !ati
[10:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:19] <Inazad> Warbo, ok but can I use wine to emulate it ?
[10:19] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: VGA16 VGA is not the right frame buffer type
[10:20] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: try rebooting with kernel parameter vga=791
[10:20] <Warbo> Inazad: Probably, if you tell WINE the mountpoint of the image
[10:20] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: If you don't mind, let me pull up the BIOS and see what the settings are...
[10:20] <ljlolel> !wine
[10:20] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:20] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: okay
[10:20] <ljlolel> wine = wine is not an emulator
[10:20] <Inazad> Warbo, like --> wine /home/inazad/image.bin /mnt/virtual ??
[10:20] <Inazad> Warbo, like --> wine /home/inazad/image.bin /mnt/virtual -o loop^ ?
[10:20] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: but i cannot help you much with the bios. each bios is different.
[10:21] <kristian> erUSUL, I have tried it before
[10:21] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: each bios manufacturer has his own terminology for things
[10:21] <Inazad> ljlolel, ok so, what I have to do with qemu ?
[10:21] <impeto> Sorry for boring but anyone has experience with multicast streaming with dapper????
[10:21] <Warbo> Inazad: It would be something like "sudo mount /home/inazad/image.iso /mnt/virtual -o loop" (after converting it) then giving WINE the path "/mnt/virtual" as a CD drive
[10:21] <MrDuck> Barkley, you need to route your requests: set first machine as default gateway for second and then route packets from 2nd interface to first in your main machine
[10:22] <haakonn> i have two usb mass storage devices which i would like automounted when i plug them in. one runs vfat, the other runs ext3. is there anything i can put into fstab (or similar) that would automount them properly?
[10:22] <abzde> kubuntu-desktop is huge :)
[10:22] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: You'll definitely have a better idea than I do...
[10:22] <MrDuck> barkley, dont remember precise command :S man route
[10:22] <Inazad> Warbo, ok... so I have ton convert my .bin file into an .iso, right ?
[10:22] <arooni> so no one has gotten eclipse working with subversion on ubuntu?
[10:22] <MrDuck>  cant use soundcard in gnome (vlc, xmms...) nothing comes out :P but aplay works fine and vlc if i use a remote ssh connection. anyone a clue? thx
[10:22] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: btw, is this ibm machine a desktop/tower or a notebook?
[10:22] <Warbo> Inazad: Qemu is an emulator. If it a bootable CD then you can use it in Qemu, or if it isn't then install Windows in Qemu and run it like a regular CD in that (but it will still need to be an iso)
[10:22] <stappers> is 'edgy' ready for Joe Random?
[10:23] <Inazad> Warbo, answer my question please
[10:23] <stappers> (or is it a development version?)
[10:23] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: Lists the chip as Intel 915G/GV, DVMT Graphics Memory: 56MB (It's a tower, model 8143.)
[10:23] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: i only know ibm notebooks (thinkpad)
[10:23] <Warbo> Inazad: an "iso" is just a dump of the contents of a CD. Your "bin" will probably not be that, so it may need converting. If you know what type of program made it then that would help
[10:23] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: Three choices for Active Video: IGD, PCI, or PEG.
[10:24] <darkyoshi372> can't a bin be part of a cd image, the counterpart to a cue file?
[10:24] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: never heard of IGD and PEG
[10:24] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: No problem.
[10:24] <Warbo> darkyoshi372: But those can't be mounted via loopback can they?
[10:24] <darkyoshi372> aha
[10:24] <Inazad> Warbo, I don't know which program to use to convert my .bin to an .iso ... HELP!!!
[10:24] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: maybe IGD stands for integrated graphics device
[10:25] <Warbo> Inazad: Neither do I :) (I will do a quick Synaptic search)
[10:25] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: so IGD is probably the i915 card
[10:25] <Inazad> Warbo, ok thanks
[10:25] <kaot> Barkley you still there?
[10:26] <MrDuck> kaot, was i right about barkley's?
[10:26] <arooni> folks would this package for breezy work on dapper: http://svn.haxx.se/dev/archive-2006-01/0399.shtml ?
[10:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Inazad: Magic ISO for windows will do that.. In Linux.. no idea...
[10:26] <kaot> MrDuck: in principle.  implementation details were lacking ;)
[10:26] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: Sounds good. I'll try that. PCI just failed. :-(
[10:26] <Inazad> Jack_Sparrow, ok...
[10:27] <kaot> I'd go with iptables SNAT or MASQ for that.  I'm doing basically that exact thing here, except with a hub inline because I have no crossover cable.
[10:27] <Warbo> Inazad: "bchunk" looks promising, but I have no .bin or .cue to test it with
[10:27] <MrDuck> kaot, ^^ i'm aware.. gonna setup something similar in a 2 weeks, gonna be google-fun
[10:28] <kaot> MrDuck: it's cake really
[10:28] <Inazad> Warbo, ok thanks
[10:28] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: Any idea what DVMT 3.0 Mode should be set to? I have Fixed, DVMT, and Combo.
[10:28] <MrDuck> kaot, once you're into it.. i've just seen t set up in school, i did only the rest of the server, not the basic net install :s
[10:29] <Barkley> kaot yeah hi
[10:29] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: dunno. if i remember correctly, DVMT is ibm's marketing speak for shared memory gfx card
[10:29] <kaot> Barkley: so all you're trying to do is use the linux box to provide an internet connection for the one connected via crossover, ya?
[10:30] <__mikem> FOr some glade doesn't work. It says command not found, but apt says that its installed
[10:30] <Barkley> yeah...so i had the internet working fine for example using a 10.0 subnet for the cross over connected pc to eth1, then had eth0 connected to the dhcp server...now the problem was NFS mounts wouldn't work.  but they work fine if both machines are connected to the dhcp server and on hte same subnet
[10:31] <arooni-linux> folks so packages for breezy, will tehy work for dapper?
[10:31] <Barkley> the problem is the dhcp hub isn't gigabit so i need the remote pc cross-over conncted to the server....and use the other eth interface to get out
[10:31] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: i just googled and found the "BIOS call 0x5f05..." message in the i810 driver source. it's only for setting a higher refresh rate, so failure of this shouldn't be critical
[10:32] <Barkley> i figured out how to do internet connection sharing using one of hte firewall tools, but it's hokey and nfs still wouldn't work
[10:32] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: there must be another reason for Xorg to abort
[10:32] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: You were saying something about starting up with a kernel option?
[10:32] <Warbo> arooni-linux: Maybe. I know Doomsday doesn't :(
[10:32] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: yes, option is vga=791  (that is 1024x768 in 16bpp)
[10:32] <__mikem> Can someone help me with a problem with glade
[10:32] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: I don't think it's aborting. It's happily sending signals that my monitor has no idea what to do with.
[10:32] <arooni-linux> Warbo: can i easily uninstall if it doesnt work/
[10:32] <kaot> Barkley: why was nfs failing?  name resolution?  wasn't configured correctly for the second computer?
[10:32] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: How do I do that?
[10:33] <Barkley> name res was fine...it's an osx box and just getting very vague invalid operation and password errors ---- the UIDs and passwords are synced
[10:33] <Barkley> the remote machine is an osx box
[10:34] <Barkley> the mystery here is this all works fine if both machines are connected to the dhcp server rather than through the cross-over
[10:34] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: in the grub boot screen, press 'e' on the boot entry for ubuntu, go to the kernel parameters line, press 'e' again and insert vga=791 after root=...  then press return and then 'b' for boot
[10:34] <Barkley> but then i lost gigabit and i have a terabyte of crap to move aorund
[10:34] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: OK. Trying that now....
[10:35] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: do you have net access on the machine?
[10:35] <__mikem> WHy can't I execute glade
[10:35] <munzir> Hi, cron puts some mails on my box that says: run-parts: /etc/cron.hourly/mycron exited with return code 1. does this means there is an error or what?
[10:36] <Barkley> so my original question is should this work fine? osx(10.*) --- crossover --- eth1(10.*) routed to eth0(192.*) ----- network hub (192.168.0.1)   is that the way to do it?
[10:36] <Barkley> do i just set up a static route between the two subnets on the linux box?
[10:36] <kaot> Barkley: that would be the first thing I would try, yes.  However, NFS might have some kind of security crap built in that messes with your ability to SNAT.
[10:36] <Barkley> and do i even need to subnets?
[10:37] <Barkley> err two subnets
[10:37] <Pelo> afternoon folks
[10:37] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: The boot-up splash screen was in 1024x768, but it crapped out at the same point.
[10:37] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: Yeah, it's on the network.
[10:37] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: define "crap out"
[10:37] <kristian> Can someone help me with my driver? Take a look at this pic: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17280
[10:37] <Pelo> are there any ubuntu disk tools ?  I have an RCA flash mp3 player and ubu is not recognising that it's empty
[10:38] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: When GNOME was supposed to start, the screen goes blank and the monitor power light starts blinking.
[10:38] <Barkley> ok kaot....i wouldn't be surprised.  NFS by design is posix security compliant...so there's something that needs to be defined that i just don't quite understand
[10:38] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: okay, that's just the X server. the kernel frame buffer seems okay.
[10:38] <kaot> Barkley: you don't NEED to I don't think.  Try assigning the OSX box an IP out of that subnet.  use eth1's IP as default gateway on the osX box.  use the same dns settings eth0 has.
[10:38] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: now we force the X server to use the kernel frame buffer.
[10:38] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: Oh, that sounds positive.
[10:39] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: do you know how to edit a text file?
[10:39] <TeacherTodd813> Yeah. I'm nano proficient.
[10:39] <kaot> and then do route add -host (osx's ip) eth1
[10:39] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: go edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:39] <kaot> Barkley: in other words, keep all IPs on the same 192.168.0.0/24 network
[10:39] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: search for Section "Device"
[10:40] <Barkley> ok
[10:40] <kaot> Barkley: and make sure you've got /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward set to "1"
[10:40] <Draconicus> Is there a tool that I can use to list every directory within a subdirectory in order of the size of the recursive files in total?
[10:40] <KenSentMe|afk> I'm setting up a computer that needs to run as a jukebox machine so kids can play their favourite songs on it. What music program do you recommend?
[10:40] <kaot> Barkley: the box in the middle should route correctly at that point
[10:40] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: the must be a line  Driver "i810"   -- change this into   Driver "fbdev"
[10:40] <Barkley> yeah i follow
[10:40] <Jack_Sparrow> xmms perhaps
[10:40] <PyresFlood> I wish the live ubuntu cd was faster
[10:40] <KenSentMe|afk> Jack_Sparrow: is it easy to use/userfriendly?
[10:41] <Jack_Sparrow> PyresFlood: All live cd's are slow, due to compression
[10:41] <kaot> Barkley: if it doesn't let me know, I've got a similar setup except the second box is on a different network.  I'll just mess with my settings and try to mirror what I'm trying to get you to do
[10:41] <tanawana> xmms is my suggestion to
[10:41] <Barkley> so if eth0 is setup as the default gateway on the linux box the eth1 that's connected to the osx machine should have the same dns settings as eth0 and be on teh same subnet?
[10:41] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: Done. Anything else?
[10:41] <PyresFlood> I understaqnd that. Ubuntu is a bit slower though.
[10:41] <KenSentMe|afk> tanawana: then i'll try that one
[10:41] <kaot> Barkley: exactly.
[10:41] <Barkley> i get it...one question: does eth1 (the one on the internal lan) have a default gateway setup?
[10:41] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: restart gdm
[10:41] <kaot> Barkley: that way dns requests will get routed correctly
[10:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Ubuntu puts more stuff on.. Takes longer to uncompress
[10:42] <kristian> Can I reset my graphic card driver, so the driver will be the same as if I have installed ubuntu for 2 sec ago?
[10:42] <kaot> Barkley: no, regardless how many interfaces you've got there's only one default gw in the routing table
[10:42] <Barkley> ah
[10:42] <kaot> Barkley: for each box
[10:42] <Jack_Sparrow> PyresFlood: Remaster the Live cd to just the software you want it to have
[10:42] <Barkley> interesting, because you can configure them separately in the gnome gui for each interface
[10:42] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: fbdev has some limitations: only 60 hz vertical refresh, no 2d acceleration. but you should at least have a visible gfx display.
[10:42] <Barkley> that could be why it's flaking out
[10:43] <bthornton> Anybody have XGL running on Dapper (x86_64) with an ATI video card?  I know there's plenty of docs/posts on this, but everything I'm finding is dated back in February/March.
[10:43] <Barkley> kaot...thnx a million for taking time to understand this and giving some pointers.
[10:43] <__mikem> I am having a problem with glade, typing "glade" at the command line returns command not found, I know its installed though. I am very frustrated because I am not getting anywhere, I need to know how to fix this.
[10:43] <gnomefreak> bthornton: try in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:43] <cntb> near to impossible to install on 640x480 in GUI
[10:43] <bthornton> gnomefreak: Thanks!
[10:43] <kaot> Barkley: I think that setting's a bit misleading... lemme know how it goes
[10:43] <gnomefreak> bthornton: yw
[10:43] <cntb> now on UBUNTU liveCD chatting here
[10:43] <Barkley> last question  when you add "route -add osx ip" eth1 to the route table...what technically are you doing?
[10:43] <cntb> workarounbd must be on terminal
[10:44] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: How do I restart gdm?
[10:44] <Barkley> specifying anything that is destinated for that ip to be routed through eth1 rather than eth0?
[10:44] <JerKB> when using mrxvt (terminal window) home/end keys result in a beep from the pc speaker and a "~" on the screen instead of going to the beginning/end of the line.  any way to fix this?
[10:44] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:44] <Jack_Sparrow> PyresFlood: What is your hardware setup that you are using to run the livecd
[10:44] <cntb> near to impossibel installing in 640x480 gui - buttons below not visible
[10:44] <Barkley> so in a lan setting you might be doing that for a separate subnet or something?
[10:44] <cntb> any suggestions?
[10:44] <kaot> Barkley: right, basically.
[10:44] <Barkley> ok
[10:44] <kaot> Barkley: suddenly i'm wondering how this'll affect arp though.
[10:45] <kaot> Barkley: I did this stuff a lot a few years back and i'm rusty
[10:45] <cntb> what is the terminal window version of UBUNTU install
[10:45] <kaot> :P
[10:45] <cntb> anyone?
[10:45] <Jack_Sparrow> cnfb DO the text install
[10:45] <kaot> as a matter of fact while you're messing with that i'll do the same thing here
[10:45] <kaot> so if you run into a problem i should have it figured out shortly
[10:45] <Barkley> so in windows
[10:45] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: It *is* graphical...
[10:45] <Barkley> you can just bridge interfaces through the gui
[10:45] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: cool
[10:45] <cntb> Jack_Sparrow: can you coach me
[10:45] <cntb> for 5 min?
[10:45] <kaot> Barkley: right, and that's basically what you're doing.
[10:46] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: Unfortunately, it's pretty psychedelic, off-center, and clearly not what it should be.
[10:46] <Barkley> kaot when you are talking about arp...is that what you mean?  just setting up a bridge rather than a named route?
[10:46] <Jack_Sparrow> cnfb: No sorry, I am getting ready for lunch...
[10:46] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: can't you fix that with the monitor settings?
[10:46] <cntb> suit yourself
[10:46] <cntb> 10x anyway
[10:46] <kaot> Barkley: when i'm talking about arp I mean your router is going to ask which MAC address has a particular IP address (your osx box in this case) so it'll know how to addresss the frames
[10:46] <JerKB> or is there a way to change the system colors so that gnome-terminal isn't white background/black foreground?  I changed it using gnome-terminal's preferences but now if I use vi the text is invisible.
[10:46] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: Which monitor settings?
[10:46] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: the monitor should handle 1024x768 @ 60hz, it's a standard mode
[10:46] <bolrod> hrm
[10:46] <Jack_Sparrow> cntb:  You can try reading about it in the Ubuntu pages.
[10:46] <cntb> should I leave GUI from live cd completely to start text install?
[10:47] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: at the monitor itself
[10:47] <ilpum> My computer sometimes stops and doesn't continue from time to time, what should I do?
[10:47] <kaot> Barkley: if the arp requests aren't passed through that might be a problem.  but your linux box may answer for the osx box.  proxy-arp kind of thing
[10:47] <cntb> k
[10:47] <kaot> which is what i'[m about to check on here
[10:47] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: Yeah. It looks great until X starts. The boot up splash screen is perfect. Something's wrong here, though.
[10:47] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: vertical/horizontal position, v/h size, ...
[10:47] <Barkley> kaot ah, yes.  this is whacky
[10:47] <ilpum> Is it possible to undo this situation?
[10:47] <kaot> Barkley: correction:  this is *fun*
[10:47] <kaot> hehe
[10:47] <Barkley> kaot isn't there a dead simple way to bridge two interface?
[10:47] <kaot> Barkley: yes but I don't remember what the hell it is.
[10:48] <Barkley> kaot haha ok
[10:48] <randomfactor> Anyone using Ubuntu in Parallels
[10:48] <kaot> I think this might be it though
[10:48] <Barkley> kaot ill google :D
[10:48] <kaot> i just haven't tried it
[10:48] <kaot> i'm gonna mess with this real quick and i'll let you know
[10:48] <roostishaw> anyone, how can I use root-tail if I'm using nautilus?
[10:48] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: Oh. No, it's not that. Some of the right side of the screen is on the left side. And the pretty shades of brown around the Ubuntu login are violent shades of neon pink.
[10:48] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: does the monitor have a "Info" function to tell you which mode is currently active?
[10:48] <Barkley> kaot here's my instinct on this
[10:49] <Barkley> kaot if i bridge correctly, i should end up with another virtual interfafce
[10:49] <Barkley> kaot so this static named route may work, but i think there's another way to do this
[10:49] <HackerX> kaot?
[10:49] <kaot> Barkley: still here
[10:49] <HackerX> Hey
[10:49] <kristian> Can I reset my graphic card driver, so the driver will be the same as if I have installed ubuntu for 2 sec ago?
[10:49] <roostishaw> anyone, how can I use root-tail if I'm using nautilus?
[10:49] <kaot> Barkley: ah so eth0 would have 2 ips.... i don't think i had ot do it that way though
[10:49] <HackerX> sweet ur still here, i had to run up town to work on yet another windows box
[10:50] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: hmm, very strange. fbdev usually works everywhere. except on *very* broken vesa bioses, which do not even have vesa extensions.
[10:50] <kaot> HackerX: ya
[10:50] <Draconicus> Is there a package that will install text-based adventure games like Adventure?
[10:50] <Barkley> no, i think basically they lose their named identify
[10:50] <HackerX> Kaot: I have it installed now
[10:50] <kaot> Barkley: not quite how it would work
[10:50] <kaot> Barkley: gimme like 5 mins to reconfig here I should have an answer for you shortly
[10:50] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: The info thing says 59.4 Hz NN.
[10:50] <HackerX> Kaot: what was the black list command again?
[10:50] <Barkley> here's a gentoo example for wifi http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_setup_a_gentoo_bridge
[10:51] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: And there are other things in there that look like actual settings, but I can't choose one.
[10:51] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: okay, that counts as 60hz
[10:51] <jstern> hello :)
[10:51] <kaot> HackerX: sudo pico /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, add the line "blacklist bcm43xx" to that list, ctrl-x, hit "y", then reboot.
[10:51] <liran_> my screen saver is set to 1 minute after idle but after that time the screensaver doesnt start
[10:51] <kaot> HackerX: that'll leave you with kind of a clean slate so you can work with ndiswrapper
[10:51] <HackerX> kaot: alright
[10:51] <roostishaw> anyone, how can i use root-tail if im using nautilus?
[10:51] <quicoju_> keep getting this error while trying to load Xorg: Fatal server error:
[10:51] <cntb> I am in GUI now from liveCD pressed alt-control F1 to get terminal. how do I do text install from here
[10:51] <quicoju_> could not open default cursor font 'cursor'
[10:51] <Barkley> it's amazing how networking can bring producitivity to a dead stop for 3 days :|
[10:51] <quicoju_> what can i do?
[10:51] <cntb> dont want ot loose connection during install
[10:52] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: can you look again at /var/log/Xorg.0.log, just to make sure the X server is using fbdev driver and the 1024x768 mode
[10:52] <kaot> Barkley: lol
[10:52] <jstern> I am trying my hardest to connect to a ubuntu 6.06 machine with FreeNX installed and working, using NX Client, but says session failes after authentication and brings up this error NX> 1004 Error: nxagent failed to start with: NXAGENT: Fatal IO error on display  - Any ideas? thanks :)
[10:52] <mend> hello
[10:52] <Warbo> cntb: I don't think you can do text-mode install from the Desktop LiveCD, unless you somehow use debootstrap
[10:53] <roostishaw> anyone, how can i use root-tail if im using nautilus?
[10:53] <Barkley> jstern what versions?
[10:53] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: Sure. Let me check.
[10:53] <jstern> freenx_0.4.4+0.4.5-4ubuntu2_all
[10:53] <jstern> nxclient_1.5.0-141_i386
[10:53] <Xiomaro> Can anyone help me? When I try to use "deb" as a command... it tells me "deb: command not found"
[10:54] <jstern> and of course about 4 other files i needed before those could install barkley
[10:54] <Warbo> Xiomaro: Try "sudo dpkg"
[10:54] <alephant> Hey all...
[10:54] <Barkley> jstern i don't have a quick answer other than just wanting to make sure you weren't using 2.0 client
[10:54] <bthornton> I already asked this in #ubuntu-xgl but nobody's talking in there: Is anybody successfully running XGL/Compiz with the following combination: Dapper + x86_64 (AMD) + ATI (fglrx) ?
[10:55] <Xiomaro> cheers Warbo
[10:55] <jstern> ok, everything is default though, port 22, he has allowed it on his router (my friend)
[10:55] <SurfnKid> Putang Merde they won
[10:55] <leks> anyone got VGA out working on a replicator?
[10:55] <jstern> hang on by default, linux locks everything down right? i need to open 22 on linux machine also?
[10:55] <jstern> but then again surly it wouldnt authenticate ikf that was the case barkley
[10:56] <cntb> ok warbo so leaving GUI
[10:56] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: What line(s) should I look at to know for sure?
[10:56] <cntb> live CD coul not raise resolution to more than 640x480
[10:56] <mr_hus> Will kopete 0.12 be added soon to the repositories? Or is there an easy way to install it?
[10:56] <Draconicus> Whee. Nobody has an answer... :P
[10:56] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: many lines beginning with FBDEV
[10:56] <cntb> so I dont see all the buttons even when all font s reduced to 8
[10:57] <intelligi> My computer keeps crashing like crazy.
[10:57] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: Oh yeah. Tons.
[10:57] <Warbo> cntb: Try removing the top panel and using alt-leftclick to drag the window around
[10:57] <intelligi> It has crashed about 5 times today.
[10:57] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: okay
[10:58] <roostishaw> anyone, how can i use root-tail if im using nautilus?
[10:58] <intelligi> How can I diagnose this problem? I don't think it is the memory, but could be the CPU or hard drive. The hard drive always seems to stop spinning right before it crashes.
[10:59] <intelligi> I can usually hear it.
[10:59] <charle97> roostishaw, if you're brave, try killing nautilus
[10:59] <jrib> roostishaw: stop nautilus from drawsing the desktop
[10:59] <Jack_Sparrow>  intelligi What have you done or installed beyond the new install.  HAve you checked your CPU temp.  Is this a lappy or Desktop, WHat are you basic hardware specs..
[10:59] <roostishaw> jrib, how?
[10:59] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: Have we reached the point where I should start looking for a local X guru?
[10:59] <jrib> roostishaw: gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/preferences
[10:59] <sysRPN> hello
[10:59] <hcjc92> YAY! my wifi card works!
[11:00] <intelligi> Desktop, no I have checked CPU temp. Basic specs: 500 mhz p3, 512 megs of ram (most of it new), TNT2 graphics card (nVidia), and a 12 gig hard drive.
[11:00] <intelligi> *have not checked
[11:00] <leks> ANYONE USING VGA OUT ON A ATI CARD
[11:00] <hcjc92> now, what do i apt-get for java?
[11:00] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: maybe. if you don't mind giving me a temporary account i can have a closer look. of course i would run screen(1), so you can see what i do.
[11:00] <roostishaw> charle97, it restarts itself...
[11:00] <sysRPN> i am about to install ubuntu on a laptop, but needs some help fixing a problem first ...
[11:00] <Jack_Sparrow>  intelligi  DO you know how big a swap partition you have,  How much memory do you have etc.
[11:00] <jrib> !java > hcjc92
[11:00] <intelligi> No, I don't, Jack.
[11:00] <sysRPN> has anyone had this problem before? http://www.codebot.org/articles/?doc=9478
[11:01] <intelligi> How do I check the swap partition?
[11:01] <HackerX> kaot: alright im back
[11:01] <kaot> Barkley: ok, it is becoming apparent that this won't work.  :(
[11:01] <sysRPN> i want to fix that problem before i install ubuntu
[11:01] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: I'm behind a firewall.
[11:01] <Warbo> leks: You mean a regular CRT monitor connection?
[11:01] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: no problem. we can use ssh remote port forwarding.
[11:01] <kaot> Barkley: I coulda sworn I remembered doing this but I guess the setup was slightly different.  they must have been on different subnets.
[11:02] <kaot> HackerX: ok, what have you done so far?
[11:02] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: OK. How?
[11:02] <sysRPN> no, the monitor is an lcd screen attached to my laptop
[11:02] <sn00p> What package do I install to get the kernel source?
[11:02] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: do you see my query?
[11:02] <Warbo> sn00p: linux-source-2.6.15
[11:03] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: I responded. Did you get it?
[11:03] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[11:03] <HackerX> Kaot: ok im going to setup i forgot i have to redo it all
[11:03] <Barkley> kaot so i think your static route and ip forwarding might work.  the bridge gives them both the same IP address...i don't quite get if that's necessary but dont think so if i set up these routes
[11:03] <Warbo> sn00p: Are you sure you don;t just need the headers?
[11:03] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: no. seems you are not registered with nickserv.
[11:03] <sn00p> It asks for the source
[11:03] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: No, I'm not.
[11:03] <Jack_Sparrow> intelligi: system admin system monitor
[11:03] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: anyway, if you can read my messages it should be enougth
[11:03] <roostishaw> anyone, how do i kill nautilus so i can use root-tail?
[11:03] <Warbo> sn00p: Try getting "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname-r`"
[11:03] <Barkley> since i don't need dhcp to pass through to the osx box for example...i don't care
[11:03] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[11:04] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: OK>
[11:04] <wubrgamer> if i plug in a router as a client to another router with an internet connection.......
[11:04] <Warbo> roostishaw: You want the root window instead of nautilus backdrop?
[11:04] <intelligi> 567 Megs of swap, 0% used.
[11:04] <wubrgamer> can i get internet with the client router ?
[11:04] <POVaddct> TeacherTodd813: do you have sshd running on the machine?
[11:04] <fowlduck> intelligi, be glad :)
[11:04] <roostishaw> Warbo, no... i want to run root-tail, but im using nautilus
[11:05] <Warbo> roostishaw: OK, I don;t know waht that is (I assumed the root window. which nautilus' background overwrites) :)
[11:05] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct: I'll check, first...give me a sec.
[11:05] <intelligi> What could be causing my crashes?
[11:05] <sn00p> Warbo, what package is run?
[11:05] <rockzman> Can someone help me ? I try to use my xrdb to merge a .Xdefaults file and it does nto work
[11:05] <Jack_Sparrow> intelligi: Limited resources for one
[11:06] <leks> Anyone having vga out working on a notebook w/ FGLRX?
[11:06] <Xiomaro> Ok... another very n00b question... but how do I make it so that wen I type "deb" it uses "dpkg"
[11:06] <intelligi> Only using 24% of memory, 0% of swap.
[11:06] <kaot> Barkley: this won't work I don't think.
[11:06] <hcjc92> should i use kde or gnome (i like kde, but i havn't used gnome much)
[11:06] <roostishaw> anyone, is there anything like root-tail that works with gnome??
[11:06] <tUlUm> what is the library stdlib for g++??????
[11:07] <TheMoebius> I'm having a problem starting kdm - the logs just say "unrecognized option: tcp", any idea how I can track this down?
[11:07] <Warbo> sn00p: Run? The linux headers are in the package linux-headers-kernelversion. uname -r gives you the kernel version you are using and putting `these` around a command will put the output of that command into the main command, hence the right version will be used
[11:07] <jrib> roostishaw: it works fine, I'm using it now
[11:07] <intelligi> How do I check cpu temp?
[11:07] <Warbo> Xiomaro: "sudo ln -s /usr/bin/dpkg /usr/local/bin/deb"
[11:07] <Xiomaro> cheers again :-)
[11:07] <tUlUm> what is the library stdlib for g++??????
[11:07] <roostishaw> jrib, you're using root-tail and nautilus?
[11:08] <jrib> roostishaw: nautilus doesn't draw my desktop
[11:08] <roostishaw> jrib, what does?
[11:08] <grothesk_> How ist Ubuntus policy concerning updates? May I expect an update of OOo to 2.0.3?
[11:08] <rockzman> Can someone help me ? I try to use my xrdb to merge a .Xdefaults file and it does nto work
[11:08] <jrib> roostishaw: but I use nautilus as my file browser
[11:08] <Eleaf> humm
[11:08] <jrib> roostishaw: nothing, i don't keep icons on my desktop
[11:08] <hcjc92> does ubuntu come with gcc?
[11:09] <jrib> !compile > hcjc92
[11:09] <kaot> Barkley: what exactly did you do when you tried iptables-based connection sharing?
[11:09] <MrDuck> cant use soundcard in gnome (vlc, xmms...) nothing comes out :P but aplay works fine and vlc if i use a remote ssh connection. anyone a clue? thx
[11:10] <roostishaw> jrib, hmmm, so if i take all the icons off my desktop, root-tail will work just fine?
[11:10] <jrib> roostishaw: no, just change the key I told you in gconf-editor
[11:10] <roostishaw> jrib, hmmm, i dont recall you telling me to change a key
[11:11] <grothesk_> How ist Ubuntus policy concerning updates? May I expect an update of OOo to 2.0.3?
[11:11] <roostishaw> jrib, could you please repeat?
[11:11] <leboff> i'm tryin to use moto4lin and when i switch the device to p2k mode, it just disconnects...
[11:11] <jrib> roostishaw: 'gconf-editor' in a terminal, then uncheck /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop
[11:12] <bbrazil> q
[11:12] <hcjc92> if i install kubuntu and ubuntu desktop's and i do startx which is gonna start?
[11:12] <gnomefreak> hcjc92: depends if you choose kdm or gdm
[11:12] <Warbo> hcjc92: I think whichever you installed second
[11:13] <roostishaw> jrib, ooo, nice, thank you
[11:13] <tUlUm> what is the library stdlib in gcc?????
[11:13] <roostishaw> jrib, now how do i run that without leaving the terminal open?
[11:13] <DrewMarin> how do I get xgl to work
[11:13] <sn00p> Warbo, i'm trying to get a ASUS WL-1667 wireless usb adapter to work in  ubuntu its suppose to be ralink compatiable
[11:14] <jrib> roostishaw: alt+f2
[11:14] <hcjc92> gnomefreak: you know everything don't you, i picked gdm, how woudl i start kubuntu after that, since startx will start gnome now?
[11:14] <Knome> !xgl
[11:14] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:14] <DrewMarin> !xgl
[11:14] <roostishaw> jrib, ok, thanks a lot mate
[11:14] <HackerX> kaot: What drivers should i get?
[11:14] <HackerX> kaot: the ones from dell?
[11:15] <Warbo> sn00p: I have had problems with a ralink driver (can't remember the exact one). It worked perfectly first time, no install or anything needed, but after a reboot the computer doesn;t boot with the card in
[11:15] <gnomefreak> hcjc92: startx should start gnome if you want to start one or other on the login screen click sessions than choose the DE of your choice
[11:15] <kaot> HackerX: start with those, yeah.  is that the file named something like R63259.EXE or something like that?
[11:15] <sn00p> Warbo, Its not a card its a donge
[11:15] <Ackeubu_> hey guys my e-gnome is broken.. ( can i fix it in some easy way? reinstalling?
[11:16] <HackerX> Kaot: the ones i had were R115321.exe but theres alot of differnt ones listed for my laptop
[11:17] <kaot> HackerX: try those first I guess.  There's a wiki page somewhere where it's broken down by card ID
[11:17] <Warbo> sn00p: OK. Well if a driver asks for your kernel source then you need the right linux-headers. If you want to make your own linux kernel from scratch then you can install the linux-source package, but there is not usually much point. You would be better going with the latest kernel source from kernel.org if you are going to build one at all, but you should normally only need the headers
[11:17] <johlin> I need to rip cds to lame vbr, preferably via sound juicer. What do I need to install?
[11:17] <Warbo> Ackeubu_: Mine works
[11:17] <kaot> HackerX: where'd you see them listed?
[11:17] <Warbo> Ackeubu_: What did you do?
[11:18] <Ackeubu_> warbo i cant remember doing anything actually. i have installed kde and ekde and done some other things with my ubuntu. i cant remember when i broke down . >?
[11:18] <Ackeubu_> :/
[11:19] <ico2_> Ok, got a user with a _very_ wierd dns issue.           works fine with machines on its own LAN, but, stuff on the internet  is not working. The router is a D-link, it looks (as far as i can see) to be set up correctly, and all the other machines use it fine. The machine is currently running Xubuntu, although the user tried normal ubuntu a while ago and had the same issue. User reported the problem as:  cant use the internet, but lan wor
[11:19] <ico2_> ks fine.  Took a look at the machine, thinking that they just didnt have the router set as the default gateway for the machine, it turned out it was set correctly.   I can ping machines outside the lan fine, i tried numerous different domains, all worked.  Using telnet to connect to port 80 on any remote server and typing "GET / HTTP/1.0" worked fine, the network does not use a proxy server. the problem is, wget and firefox both seem to
[11:19] <ico2_> resolv the address fine, but wont connect, closer inspection reveals that they are actually resolving them to 1.0.0.0 and thus failing. ping and telnet were both getting the correct ip address, and typing the ip address directly into firefox or wget worked fine. IT GETS WIERDER!!!!! running "nslookup www.google.co.uk 192.168.1.1" (192.168.1.1 being the ip address of the router) (the router is configured to forward the dns), that resolved
[11:19] <ico2_>  fine, and, even more strangely, after running this, firefox and wget could use google.co.uk fine. I assume that either the machine or the router is caching it when nslookup asks for it. other urls still didnt work.  to further examin the problem i ran wget through strace, this showed that it was reading from /etc/nsswitch.conf which is normal, checked the file, messed about with the file, deleted the file, didnt make any difference exce
[11:19] <ico2_> pt preventing it from resolving at all. replaced the file with a backup i made before. ran wget through strace again, noted the response from the router which it is using as a dns server (as it should), the response seems to be 1.0.0.0domainname.com, this indicates that the router is
[11:19] <ico2_> sending dodgy data, and the machine is not at fault, however, other machines on the lan work fine, and this machine works fine when in windows. I am stumped...
[11:19] <kaot> ico2_: how about you just mail me the paperback? ;)
[11:19] <ico2_> sorry for spam, i didnt realise it was that long
[11:19] <kaot> lol
[11:19] <ico2_> plenty of detail though :)
[11:20] <ico2_> lol
[11:20] <Warbo> Ackeubu_: Try running it manually. The way to do this is to go to a console, stop gdm (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop) then start an X server with "X -ac :0" then, in another console, do "export DISPLAY=localhost:0" then "export WINDOW_MANAGER=enlightenment" then "gnome-session". That should work
[11:20] <bbrazil> ico2_: run bind9 locally, I've hit problems with dsl routers and dns before
[11:20] <Ackeubu_> warbo okay, enlightment works and e-kde works onluy e-gnome doesnt work
[11:21] <ico2_> bbrazil:  noted, i dont have access to the machine atm, i will email the user
[11:21] <bbrazil> ico2_: if possible, use dig instead of nslookup - better debugging info
[11:21] <kaot> ico2_: how bout just grab the ISP's dns server ips and use those on the machine instead of using the router as dns?
[11:21] <Warbo> Ackeubu_: This is just the /usr/bin/starte16 script, yes?
[11:21] <maurodafnis> i cant seem to find the configuration program for shortcut keys for kde in ubuntu ? does it need anything special to find it ?
[11:22] <Ackeubu_> warbo i have no idea what is the starte16 script?
[11:22] <bbrazil> ico2_: also, clear the windows machine's DNS cache _ I forget the command
[11:22] <mr_hus> if i install some kde apps but use them under gnome, where do i configure the font size to be used by the application?
[11:22] <maurodafnis> for example i want to find the shortcut  key for changing desktops under KDE
[11:22] <Warbo> Ackeubu_: tell you what, try logging into regualr GNOME, go into preferences>session and make metacity a regular process (not restart) then stop it and run enlightenment from a terminal, see if that works
[11:22] <ico2_> bbrazil:  will do
[11:23] <maurodafnis> any ideas ?
[11:24] <ico2_> kaot, bbrazil, cheers, i will forward these to the user
[11:26] <TeacherTodd813> POVaddct IS AN AWESOME, WONDERFUL HUMAN BEING!!!
[11:26] <SAM_theman> TeacherTodd813, had your pills??
[11:26] <Warbo> TeacherTodd813: Get a room :)
[11:26] <kaot> ico2_: here, check this:  http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/461625.html
[11:27] <kaot> ico2_: known issue w/ dlink maybe?
[11:27] <POVaddct> SAM_theman: i just helped him getting Xorg to run on a very nasty shared memory gfx card
[11:27] <Ackeubu_> warbo hey it worked
[11:27] <kaot> Barkley: didn't work, did it?  hehe ...  i've been noodling on this and I'm way, WAY off base.
[11:27] <Barkley> kaot closer...i can get out to the net from the sever, i can ping the osx box, i can ping the server from the osx box...but no dns resolution on the osx
[11:27] <ico2_> kaot:  reading that link, cheers
[11:27] <roostishaw> how do i change my desktop background if nautilus dosn't draw my desktop?
[11:27] <Warbo> Ackeubu_: OK, so it is probably the script. Try "cat /usr/bin/starte16"
[11:27] <ico2_> roostishaw:  use xv
[11:27] <ico2_> roostishaw:  or xsetbg
[11:28] <Warbo> roostishaw: Or chbg
[11:28] <POVaddct> SAM_theman: and i use ssh login and screen -x to demonstrate how awesome the screen tool is
[11:28] <Barkley> even my nfs mounts are working...holy crap
[11:28] <Ackeubu_> warbo what am i looking for in the script?
[11:28] <SAM_theman> ok send me a link to what the heck your talking about because I am SOoo,..lost my friend
[11:28] <Barkley> so i/m very very close.....the question is what should the default gateway and the default dns be on the osx box?
[11:28] <roostishaw> ico2_ & Warbo, is there a way to do it without installing anything?
[11:29] <kaot> Barkley: are the nsf mounts on the linux box or somewhere out on the internet?
[11:29] <Ackeubu_> warbo in case 1 the script runs this  export WINDOW_MANAGER=enlightenment exec gnome-session
[11:29] <Warbo> Ackeubu_: It should basically do (for GNOME) WINDOW_MANAGER=enlightenment then gnome-session. That is all it should need to do
[11:29] <Barkley> the nfs mounts are shared by the linux box and mounted on the osx box
[11:29] <Warbo> Ackeubu_: Yes, so it is OK. Hmm, why isn;t it logging in? This is puzzling
[11:29] <Barkley> kaot the only problem i have right now is now dns res on the osx box
[11:30] <kaot> Barkley: well here's what should be happening.  let's say you're trying to get to http://some.host.net.  First it'll try to resolve to ip.  So it'll send a dns request to your dns server.  problem is, osx box thinks dns server is on same network so it tries arping for it.
[11:30] <kaot> Barkley: arp then dies at eth1.
[11:30] <kaot> Barkley: so they have to be on different networks after all.
[11:30] <Warbo> Ackeubu_: If you try the method I said before about using consoles then you are manually doing what the script should be doing
[11:30] <ico2_> roostishaw:  shouldnt need anything extra
[11:30] <kaot> Barkley: otherwise the connections must be bridged.
[11:30] <Ackeubu_> warbo thats what it does. however when i have started the computer, i get to the loggin window. the screen flickers and turns black, I have to press alt+ctrl+F7 to get to loggin. then when i chose e-gnome it loggs me into gnome.
[11:30] <Barkley> ah
[11:30] <Barkley> CRAP
[11:30] <Barkley> im so close!
[11:30] <HackerX> kaot: Hokay i have the drivers unziped and ready
[11:31] <kaot> Barkley: yeh.  i was trying to say that before  :(
[11:31] <Ackeubu_> warbo yeah its weird it looks right to me
[11:31] <Barkley> How can I just bridge these interfaces on the ubuntu box?
[11:31] <Tremitos> ?
[11:31] <Warbo> Ackeubu_: Maybe try running an X then "starte16 GNOME"
[11:31] <kaot> Barkley: i think the nsf mounts are going to present the only problem with using the iptables method though.
[11:31] <kaot> Barkley: what exactly did you do before?
[11:31] <erUSUL> !info bridge-utils
[11:31] <ubotu> bridge-utils: Utilities for configuring the Linux ethernet bridge. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.0.6-1build1 (dapper), package size 24 kB, installed size 144 kB
[11:32] <Barkley> hmmm before i just had everyone plugged into a hub and all was well
[11:32] <kaot> HackerX: ok, go into the directory where you unzipped the drivers and sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[11:32] <Warbo> Ackeubu_: (bear in mind that I am using a newer version of e16 than is in Ubuntu, but the Ubuntu version worked fine for me anyway)
[11:32] <kaot> Barkley: no i mean you said you tried an iptables script and it was hokey and didn't work.
[11:32] <SAM_theman> yo hommies whats the difference between apt-get and aptitude....I know they are the same program but little more powerful
[11:32] <Barkley> kaot except by using the eth cross over i get a gigabit connect between two machines that are sending LOTS of data
[11:32] <eamo> No sound on realplayer - installed for two sources - is ther alternative for streaming .smil files?
[11:32] <Barkley> kaot ah i didn't have the host named in the routes
[11:33] <Barkley> so it was spewing packets
[11:33] <Warbo> SAM_theman: aptitude gives an interface (ncurses) apt-get needs to be told what to do on the CLI
[11:33] <kaot> Barkley: i am confused.  this is happening now?  or this is what was happening when you tried iptables?
[11:33] <Warbo> SAM_theman: Run each without any options and you will see :)
[11:33] <SAM_theman> could you so kinding sir tell me whats CLI
[11:33] <Barkley> i was answreing your q
[11:33] <kaot> Barkley: iptables should work.  I thought you were trying to mount nfs over the internet
[11:33] <Barkley> before
[11:33] <Warbo> CLI=Command Line Interface/Interpreter
[11:34] <kaot> Barkley: but you aren't.  so iptables should work.  possibly the script firewalled your nfs server
[11:34] <Barkley> no just mount from osx to the linux box....they weren't working before
[11:34] <Warbo> ("opposite" of GUI)
[11:34] <Barkley> yeah that could be
[11:34] <Barkley> ok so do i just try with the eth0 (i was wrong before) and the osx box on a diff subnet?
[11:34] <gatekeeper> SAM_theman: <C>ommand <L>ine <I>nterface
[11:34] <SAM_theman> O ok thanks
[11:35] <HackerX> kaot: Installing bcmwlf.inf couldn't copy bcmwlf.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135.
[11:35] <kaot> Barkley: right.  you'll havce to do the route stuff you did before.
[11:35] <nxvl> i have just installed ubuntu via netboot, but i think it fuk'd up my MBR, how do i start a liveCD or stuff from netboot?
[11:35] <n0k|a> HackerX, are you root?
[11:35] <kaot> HackerX: bcmwl5.inf
[11:35] <kaot> HackerX: make sure you sudo
[11:35] <HackerX> umm yea im on the account that i made at time of setup
[11:35] <HackerX> i did
[11:35] <idefix> ok, so all linux programmers program stuff and upload it to universe and multiverse... then some linux experts check it and it promotes to main or even restricted (which is like main but then you have to pay for it)??
[11:35] <HackerX> ohhhhhhhhhh
[11:35] <HackerX> ok
[11:36] <HackerX> let me try again
[11:36] <dave189> hi. i just installed xubuntu and am having a lot of pain with floppy disks. can anyone help me mount, fat format, write to and unmount a floppy?
[11:37] <idefix> guys? is my remark correct?
[11:37] <HackerX> Kaot: ok that worked
[11:37] <Warbo> idefix: Linux programmers make their own little projects which are collectively called "upstream". Then, Ubuntu's "Masters Of The Universe" package and test it, then put it in Universe. Main is only for core Ubuntu components, selected to make support easier. Resrticted is for non-free stuff in Ubuntu's core packages, whilst multiverse is the equivalent for universe
[11:37] <gatekeeper> idefix: all donations gratefully accepted :-)
[11:37] <HackerX> kaot: now what it said i needed the sys file to so should i do the same thing with the sys file?
[11:37] <kaot> HackerX: ok, now sudo ndiswrapper -m
[11:38] <Barkley> kaot is fair to say im doing a separate subnet because you, nor i, know how to bridge? :D
[11:38] <kaot> HackerX: where did it say you needed the .sys file?
[11:38] <dave189> my fstab is correct but when i go to /media/floppy or /media/floppy0, there is nothing!
[11:38] <kaot> Barkley: it is fair to say that, but I'd rather you didn't  ;)
[11:38] <kaot> Barkley: i think we need specific tools to do that
[11:38] <Barkley> kaot ok i follow...thnx for yr help btw...im 100% closer than i was yesterdya
[11:39] <HackerX> on the site when i was reading up on this card but on the other list on the site it didnt say anything about it so ill just try this first
[11:39] <HackerX> kato: ok it says Adding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[11:39] <idefix> Warbo so if you download stuff from universe you have an 80% chance of it working correctly?
[11:39] <HackerX> kato: ok should i try it now?
[11:40] <HackerX> or
[11:40] <Warbo> idefix: Debian has a more logical layout, since everything which is Free is put in the main repos (which have versions for stable, experimental, etc.) but Ubuntu adds the main+restricted/universe+multiverse distinction so corporate customers can trust their system more, and support is easier since they focus on these core packages
[11:40] <kaot> HackerX: not yet
[11:40] <HackerX> kato:ok
[11:40] <Warbo> idefix: It should all work, but you will have to pay for commercial support for it (I think bugs and errors in main are fixed for free?)
[11:41] <roostishaw> ico2_, those all return, "command not found"
[11:41] <Gullstad> How get a window to popup on a computer by connection whit SSH?
[11:41] <ico2_> roostishaw:  wierd, dunno what do use then
[11:42] <Ackeubu_> warbo i just screwed up. i closed gdm and then i started an X with X -ac :0 then i forgot how to start enlight with gnome lool.
[11:42] <apokryphos> Gullstad: on your computer, or the one you're ssh'ing to?
[11:42] <kaot> HackerX: that ndismod file is just a quick script to change some bcmwl5 parameters
[11:42] <Gullstad> apokryphos: The one I'm SSHing to.
[11:42] <apokryphos> Gullstad: export DISPLAY=:0.0
[11:43] <Warbo> Ackeubu_: Do "export DISPLAY-localhost:0" then either un "starte16 GNOME" or do "export WINDOW_MANAGER=enlightenment" "gnome-session" yourself
[11:43] <apokryphos> Gullstad: then type xeyes ;-)
[11:43] <Warbo> DISPLAY=localhost:0 sorry
[11:43] <HackerX> kaot: alright did where did it go or did it send? and how do i use it
[11:43] <Gullstad> apokryphos: Can you give me the full sentece?
[11:43] <kaot> HackerX: it didn't look like you accepted it
[11:43] <apokryphos> Gullstad: what do you mean?
[11:43] <HackerX> kaot: i didnt see anything in the list
[11:43] <jrib> roostishaw: use /usr/bin/gnome-background-properties , or change it in gconf-editor directly
[11:43] <HackerX> i did
[11:43] <HackerX> try again
[11:43] <Gullstad> apokryphos: export DISPLAY=:0.0 "Tekst"?
[11:43] <kaot> HackerX: prob firewall settings messing this up.  hang on.
[11:44] <HackerX> ooo
[11:44] <HackerX> wait
[11:44] <hcjc92> is it just me or is ubuntu (not kubuntu) running konsole (or is that normal, and i'm confused)
[11:44] <Warbo> hcjc92: gnome-terminal
[11:44] <HackerX> i have a router want me to just DMZ this ip real quick
[11:44] <apokryphos> Gullstad: just type this exactly once you've ssh'd into the computer: export DISPLAY=:0.0 && xeyes
[11:44] <dave189> does anyone know how to use floppies under ubuntu?
[11:44] <Ropechoborra> Can anyone tell me whats this?? : If you don't have a windows installation accessible from Wine, you perhaps forgot to create a [mci]  section in system.ini
[11:44] <Warbo> dave189: You may need to do "sudo modprobe floppy"
[11:45] <Gullstad> apokryphos: ..but I want the window to contain something :P
[11:45] <cappicrd> Hello
[11:45] <roostishaw> jrib, thank you
[11:45] <apokryphos> Gullstad: what do you mean?
[11:45] <hcjc92> how cna i tell what desktop i'm in, cuase i have both installed (i know i'm in gnome, but, i just want ot make sure_
[11:45] <cappicrd> don't know
[11:45] <Gullstad> apokryphos: I want to send a message.
[11:45] <kaot> HackerX: nah it's probably on my end
[11:45] <hcjc92> the "system tool" on the menu are all kde things
[11:45] <HackerX> kaot: ok
[11:45] <apokryphos> Gullstad: oh, not sure what the gnome notification tool is, only know about KDE for that one.
[11:45] <kaot> HackerX: check your privmsg
[11:45] <Warbo> hcjc92: It is pretty obvious which you are in. The applications you run are entirely up to you though (I like to use Amarok and Kuickshow from within GNOME, for example)
[11:46] <Gullstad> apokryphos: oki, thanks anyways :)
[11:46] <HackerX> Kaot: yea i got that so do i goto the dir of the first msg and then run the 2nd msg
[11:46] <HackerX> or what?
[11:46] <hcjc92> warbo: i know, but why isn't gnome-terminal and gnome type things on the applications menu?
[11:46] <hcjc92> oh
[11:46] <hcjc92> they are
[11:46] <kaot> HackerX: doesn't matter where you run it from
[11:47] <HackerX> ok so just copy all of that?
[11:47] <HackerX> what part?
[11:47] <kaot> HackerX: the first 3 lines
[11:47] <dave189> Warbo: well it seems that floppy/floppy0 is assigned to root, not user. is it safe to change?
[11:48] <hcjc92> kay, i have gnometerminal running, can i change the background color to black?
[11:48] <Barkley> kaot: eth1 is dhcp from the network on 192, eth0  is static 10.0.0.1, osx is static 10.0.0.10 with dns at 192.168.0.1 but def gate 10.0.0.1  masks are correct.  i have added the route add -host 10.0.0.10 eth0 a couple times and the ip forwarding is 0 in proc sys....this look correct?
[11:48] <jrib> hcjc92: right click > edit current profile
[11:48] <Warbo> dave189: It should be mountable by a normal user in the "computer" bit of nautilus (but I have terrible problems with that myself and always mount everything manually :) )
[11:48] <redguy> can anyone help me please with my wifi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17282
[11:48] <dave189> Warbo: I'm using xubuntu, more's the pity
[11:49] <Warbo> dave189: Ah, well that wouldn't affect me, since all I need is an xterm :)
[11:49] <kaot> Barkley: your routing table must be a mess.  ifconfig automatically updates your routing table when you ifconfig eth0, so that isn't necessary
[11:49] <kaot> Barkley: ip_forwarding should be set to "1"
[11:50] <redguy> it isn't configured during boot, but if I do /etc/init.d/networking restart it magically gets configured properly
[11:50] <Rubin> redguy, i have that problem with my broadcom wifi also. never did figure out why
[11:51] <Telekinetic_Teen> hey everyone
[11:51] <Rubin> redguy, one can assume that unloading it resets something thats needed for it to work, or that networking is starting before something else which is required.
[11:51] <Barkley> kaot ok changed ip_forw... so eveyrone can ping each other and the linux box can get out to hte net, the osx box can ping both interfaces, but can't ping the dns server and no dns resolution
[11:51] <n1x0r> hi everyone, i want cleanly mimic an Xubuntu install using my Ubuntu-desktop cd. how can i revert a standard ubuntu install to the barebones to do this cleanly?
[11:51] <Barkley> kaot 1 named route or setting is missing to make this all work
[11:51] <kaot> Barkley: ok now do iptables -L -n and iptables -t nat -L -n and make sure there's nothing there
[11:52] <kaot> Barkley: yeah what's missing is the SNATting
[11:52] <kaot> Barkley: we'll get to that
[11:52] <Barkley> kaot the ipchains are all clena
[11:52] <Barkley> all clean --- nothing there
[11:53] <Phoul> Is it possible to like clean ubuntu?
[11:53] <Polkadotshorts> I have a question: how can I read .lit e-book files in linux?
[11:53] <Polkadotshorts> I am having a lot of trouble
[11:53] <judah> Phoul: use windex.
[11:53] <Phoul> I was following a friends instructions to use this really long sources.list
[11:53] <redguy> Rubin, I was assuming that there might be a timeout somewhere that doesn't allow the wpa- stuff to finish...
[11:53] <Phoul> And I belive its causing some issues
[11:54] <n1x0r> Phoul: i'm wondering the same thing, but i'd like to remove all non-essential packages
[11:54] <Barkley> oops dropped off there :D
[11:54] <redguy> Rubin, so the only way is to work this around by restarting network somewhere later, rc.local perhaps?
[11:54] <Phoul> anyone know?
[11:55] <Polkadotshorts> How can I open a .lit file in linux?
[11:55] <khaije1> Phoul: i was reading about dselect but i'm not sure this would help you
[11:55] <kaot> Barkley: ok now iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -s (osx box ip) -j SNAT --to-source (eth1 ip address)
[11:55] <Phoul> i want to have a clean ubuntu system
[11:56] <Phoul> i pretty much want to be able to somehow get the originial sources back and reinstall stuff from thos so my system works correctly
[11:56] <abzde> hurray for naim!
[11:56] <khaije1> Phoul: it definitely seems like the ability to uninstall a group of packages by a certain property should be possible
[11:56] <jpjacobs> abzde, indeed :)
[11:56] <Phoul> I dont know the property lol
[11:56] <adamant1988> can anyone tell me what would cause Ubuntu to HARD lock for no apparent reason?
[11:56] <HackerX> kaot: ok this isnt going to well
[11:56] <khaije1> Phoul: it's possible to reinstall but i'm sure there has to be a better way
[11:57] <abzde> finally
[11:57] <jpjacobs> adamant1988, bad hardware (like ram, overheated CPU,...)
[11:57] <Phoul> I do not want to re install ><
[11:57] <kaot> HackerX: what happened?
[11:57] <HackerX> kaot: Pm the exact code i need to use with nothing else and ill try that again
[11:57] <tibbe> I have a problem with graphical artifacts on my buttons, anyone know of a solution?
[11:57] <Barkley> kaot: the eth1 ip address....that the interface on the dark side near the osx box...not the public internet interface right?
[11:57] <idefix> I hear Evolution mail has a version 2.6.something, from which repository can I download it?
[11:57] <khaije1> Phoul: it would be kinda braindead, but i'm not sure what else can really be done
[11:57] <adamant1988> jpjacobs, that's good... I thought Ubuntu might have been to blame for the faultering...
[11:57] <kaot> Barkley: no.  i thought eth0 was the gigE that the osx box was hanging off
[11:57] <Phoul> bah
[11:58] <kaot> Barkley: and eth1 was the wan side
[11:58] <Warbo> adamant1988: If an Xorg driver fails then you often can't press any key combos to get into a console or reset (and in Dapper even the off swtch doesn't work)
[11:58] <peter84> Ive installede krita, looks good bur when i use the dublicte brush, it only colors the image white!! I downt dublicate anything! Using version 1.5
[11:58] <Barkley> eht0 is gigE
[11:58] <Barkley> just double checking iwth
[11:58] <adamant1988> that's what happened Warbo but I can't figure out what caused it to keep it from happening again
[11:59] <kaot> Barkley: then the command i gave should be correct
[11:59] <Barkley> ah problem....the eth1 is from dhcp
[11:59] <HackerX> kaot: ok thanks ill try that
[11:59] <kaot> Barkley: how often does it change?
[11:59] <Barkley> so do i need to have that side static as well?
[11:59] <Barkley> i can chagne it
[11:59] <roberto> Would it be safe to install this package on Debian Etch?   :   wine_0.9.16~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb
[11:59] <peter84> Anyone using krita who have the same problem?
[11:59] <kaot> Barkley: well but how often does it change?
[12:00] <Barkley> kaot really doesn't matter....someday when it chagnes i won't rem why :D
[12:00] <kaot> Barkley: lol... ok change to static if you'd like
[12:00] <HackerX> kaot: ok i ran it and now im just getting a >
[12:00] <kaot> HackerX: does the last line say "done"?
[12:00] <andyjeffries> Hi guys, does anyone know of a decent application to slice a given image in to smaller sections (for web page design).  I want it to save a config file saying where the slices are and optimisation settings.  Anything like this exist?