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omeowh3sp4wn: My optimal frequency appears to be 60Hz.12:07
chavoeXCeSS, I don't believe that's possible12:08
alien_chemistany ndiswrapper xperts here?12:08
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h3sp4wnomeow: But it won't let you change it from system settings ? (I wouldn't expect it to - I was messing with it for ages just today)12:09
omeowNo, it doesn't.12:09
eXCeSSchavo: ughhhhhhhh12:09
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omeowI suspect a configuration file in ~.kde/ got mangled. Because my test user gets two screens enabled right away.12:09
DaSkreechAnyone knows how to use ODBC?12:09
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omeowOnly problem is that I don't know which file tells KDE to use that particular resolution.12:09
h3sp4wnomeow: Modeline    "1280x1024_60.00"  108.88  1280 1360 1496 1712  1024 1025 1028 1060  -HSync +Vsync (Put that under each Section "Monitor")12:10
chavoomeow, it should be that file I mentioned kcmrandrrc12:10
chavoit is called by ~/.kde/share/config/startupconfig12:10
h3sp4wnomeow: And under Section "Screen" for each change it to be something like Modes      "1280x1024_60.00" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"12:11
lucaswhere is firefox installed by default?12:12
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h3sp4wn /usr/lib/firefox (Not too sure though because I have it in /opt/firefox12:13
lucask12:13
wosheeI've got a little problem with my webcam, the image is very dark and orange12:13
omeowh3sp4wn: I only have one section for monitor.12:14
h3sp4wnomeow: How did you setup the two screens ?12:14
omeow(I'm starting to get a feeling that the only solution to this problem is to copy files from the test user's ~/.kde to my own ~/.kde after creating a backup.12:14
omeowh3sp4wn: Did you check out my log and config file?12:15
omeowhttp://omeow.ath.cx/Xorg.0.log12:15
omeowhttp://omeow.ath.cx/xorg.conf12:15
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h3sp4wnomeow: It looks like you will only have to change the modeline once (since the monitors are the same) I don't know about the other problem though12:18
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mikearthurhow do I stop my multimedia keys spouting junk into the console when I press them?12:19
h3sp4wnomeow: If you make the changes as I have done here http://pastebin.ca/79961 then you should have them running at 60hz12:20
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omeowh3sp4wn: The problem is not that I cannot get them to work, it's that one of my monitors is disabled when I log in and I am not able to change the resolution or any other monitor specific settings that require root access because the configuration cannot be safely tested appearently.12:23
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cox377there isnt anyway of increasing the cpu fan speed is there12:23
cox377this is a general question and not to within kubuntu12:24
Dasnipa`cox377, i believe that would be the individual fan that would have to have that ability12:24
cox377ahhh12:24
Dasnipa`but a variable speed proc fan and there ya go12:24
cox377bloody thing is over heating12:24
h3sp4wnomeow: Have you tried all the settings on nvidia-xconfig -A12:24
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tony__is this thing working?12:25
h3sp4wnomeow: Expecially the ones relating to twinview and xinerama (may be best to start with a new xorg.conf12:25
tony__i've installed a bunch of progs but i don't know where to find them, any help?12:26
tony__i've found programs all in my folders but i don't know how to run them12:27
tony__like the kde config menu that suse has, how can i start it in ubuntu?12:27
tony__hello?12:28
omeowh3sp4wn: I've tried.12:28
omeowh3sp4wn: And if I use my single monitor xorg.conf file, I am allowed to change the settings in that display configuration tool.12:29
tony__anyone know what the best irc client is for linux?12:30
DaSkreechYes!12:30
DaSkreechThe one you like :)12:30
RawSewageThere isnt a best one.  I like Konversation12:30
RawSewageX-Chat is the most popular, I think12:30
RawSewagetheres others12:30
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omeowh3sp4wn: I am able to set up two monitors there, but when I restart my xorg server, it's like the desktops are too big and I have to pan around in the screens.12:30
DaSkreechirssi!! :)12:31
omeowIt's almost as if you're better off using 1 monitor on Linux. =/12:31
omeowMaybe that's why they created XGL.12:31
tony__anyone else a linux noob?12:31
omeowTo give you multiple desktops on a single monitor. =P12:31
chavoomeow, somethings messed up with your config, it works great here. I use Twinview with and without XGL12:32
tony__is there an nvidia overclocking utility?12:32
tony__sorry about the questions, but i've been on kubuntu a week and this is the first time i've actually chatted with people who know anything about linux12:33
senseiomeow: Have you tried zooming ?12:33
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fiyawerx!easy12:34
ubotuI know nothing about easy12:34
fiyawerxis there a separate version of easy-ubuntu for kde? or does the one package work on both?12:34
chavotony__, you can use nvclock_qt to overclock your nvidia12:34
senseitony__: There's 'nvclock'12:34
senseioh sry12:34
tony__i think that's the one i tried but no gui12:34
sensei_qt is gui12:34
tony__i'm used to windows12:34
chavonvclock_qt is the gui frontend for it12:35
senseitony__: It never hurts go get used to CLI tho12:35
tony__i tried it and my screeen messed up so i thought i better stop12:35
tony__i'll search for the gui for it12:35
chavoyou might have gone too far with the overclock12:35
tony__apparently i did but in windows i could've taken it way farther12:36
tony__i guess i got the numbers mixed up or something12:36
tony__i love the apt-get command. suse turned me off of linux. i had to spend hours hunting down dependants for vlc12:38
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tony__anyone know the site off hand? i can't find the gui for nvclock12:39
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senseiDoesn't urpmi do dependencies? Or didn't suse have vlc in its repos ?12:39
RawSewageI'm sure it does12:39
tony__it didn't for me but then again, i'm a noob12:40
tony__i asked a few people and no luck on installing it12:40
senseitony__: With the right repos it's in the apt12:40
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chavourpmi handles dependencies but that's a Mandriva app12:40
abattoirsensei: isnt urpmi for mandriva?12:40
abattoireven though you can *make* it run in suse12:40
senseiabattoir: Could be :) Yast theN?12:40
tony__i used rpm-i and the yast installer but no luck12:40
abattoirtony__: i dont think rpm -i does dependencies12:41
omeowchavo: I know.12:41
omeowsensei: No I haven't.12:41
h3sp4wnI thought suse used smart now ? (or at least it can)12:41
senseiomeow: You haven't what?12:41
omeowtried zooming as you suggested12:42
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BKajgatekeeper, thx for the URL ,... the text worked ,! :)12:42
senseiAh, I've been at the pub, can't rely on me remembering what I said ages ago ;)12:42
senseiomeow: Try ctrl+alt+(numpad +)12:42
senseior numpad -12:42
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omeowI'm just going to set things back the way they were and hope that some day someone manages to make things easy to set up.12:43
Zaire!easysources12:43
ubotuI know nothing about easysources12:43
Zaire!easysource12:44
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:44
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senseiomeow: So zooming didn't work?12:46
omeowsensei: No, it only made things worse and it doesn't work for the second monitor.12:47
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tony__anyone know what "activate extra pixel pipelines" exactly means in nvclock?12:47
senseiomeow: Well, if you keep doing it, it may work12:47
senseiThere's several levels of zoom12:47
omeowI know.12:48
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OODtony: that's a software hack to enable extra pixel pipelines which are normally disabled on a certain card12:49
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OODthis can result in exta performance at no extra overhead and heat12:50
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Cntryboyanyone know how to turn off military time on the clock and have normal time?12:52
DaSkreechRight Click Configure time?12:52
CntryboyI did but where at in there12:53
BKajsensei or someone should know that ubotu bot is giving an invalis url :http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic , the repository doesn't connect once you made the choices on the page12:53
CntryboyI see appearance/ timezomes12:53
abattoirCntryboy: Rt. Click -> Adjust date/time12:53
DaSkreechCntryboy: Sorry Right click -> Date/Time Format12:53
imbrandon      no , right client -- date times format12:53
senseiBKaj: Whaat?12:53
DaSkreechUm ok12:53
imbrandonclick*12:53
crimsunright client!12:53
abattoirugh, i meant that12:53
DaSkreechBKaj: Huh?12:53
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BKajinvalid repository12:54
Cntryboyhell which one12:54
imbrandoncrimsun: hehe12:54
BKaj40412:54
senseiAm I giving the impression of being a developer? o.O12:54
Cntryboyya'll confusing me with differ answer12:54
abattoirCntryboy: what imbrandon said12:54
abattoirdate and time format12:54
imbrandonCntryboy: right click on the click and choose " Date and Time FormayT"12:54
abattoirgo to times and dates in the window which comes up12:54
Cntryboyokay Im there12:54
Cntryboynow what am I looking for12:55
BKajwith a nick like sensei, I assumed you have some kind of advisor role here :)12:55
abattoirCntryboy: what format do you exactly want?12:55
senseiBKaj: Sorry to disappoint you, but no :)12:55
CntryboyI want when it's 3pm for it to say 3pm not 15:00pm12:55
Cntryboylike right now it says 18:5512:55
abattoirchose pH:MM12:56
abattoirin Time Format12:56
DaSkreechBKaj: What did you choose?12:56
abattoirinstead of HH:MM12:56
KyralYou know you are a developer when you look at something in the physical world and think how you can represent it as an Object in your favorite programming language :D12:56
BKaj anyway to whom it may concern that URL page doesn't work , http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:56
DaSkreechBKaj: Works for me12:56
abattoirCntryboy: pH:MM:SS AMPM is the right syntax12:57
abattoirif you dont want seconds, pH:MM AMPM12:57
CntryboyI did that but never changed12:57
Cntryboyi guess I have to restart x?12:57
abattoirnope restart kicker12:57
abattoirthrough dcop or 'killall kicker && kicker'12:57
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BKajit opens but once the choices are made , clicking on the GPG sources list doesn't do anything12:58
DaSkreechCntryboy: Alt+F2 -> killall kicker && kicker12:58
abattoirCntryboy: either 'dcop kicker kicker restart' or 'killall kicker && kicker'12:58
Tommy2k4why the && kicker12:59
Cntryboyrestart kicker?12:59
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OODah that's how you do it :D12:59
abattoirTommy2k4: you are combining the two commands12:59
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Tommy2k4ahhh12:59
imbrandonTommy2k4: thats what brings it back12:59
Cntryboywhat the hell is a kicker though12:59
DaSkreechTommy2k4: && will do a second command if hte first worked properly12:59
Tommy2k4ic12:59
Cntryboyexplain first b4 I do something12:59
Cntryboyplease12:59
Tommy2k4kicker is the taskbar thingy12:59
Tommy2k4name of the process for it12:59
abattoirCntryboy: kicker refers to those panels12:59
DaSkreechCntryboy: Kicker is the taskbar at the bottom01:00
Cntryboyoh ok01:00
abattoirCntryboy: of which the clock is a part01:00
Cntryboygot ya thx01:00
DaSkreechCntryboy: It's what gives you panels01:00
Cntryboyso go to term and type dcop kicker kicker restart01:00
Zaireummm wheres the sources list file again I forgot lol01:00
abattoirCntryboy: yup01:00
DaSkreech!easyomatic01:00
ubotuI know nothing about easyomatic01:00
imbrandonZaire: /etc/apt/01:00
DaSkreech!sources01:00
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource01:00
Tommy2k4/etc/apt/sources.list01:00
tony___i'm back, i about screwed my video card up again messing with nvclock01:00
DaSkreechDoh I can never remember it :)01:01
Cntryboyzaire:/etc/apt/sources.list01:01
Zairecool thatnks I just used the auto sources page lol01:01
DaSkreechBKaj: Tell me what you selected01:01
DaSkreech!sourceomatic01:01
ubotuI know nothing about sourceomatic01:01
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Zaire!source01:01
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource01:01
imbrandon!easysource DaSkreech01:01
ubotuI know nothing about easysource DaSkreech01:01
DaSkreech!easysource01:01
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:01
Cntryboygot time fixed01:01
Cntryboythx gang01:01
DaSkreechRight that was it :-)01:01
tony___so where is there a list of what apt-get installs in kubuntu?01:02
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abattoir!anything, so i am dumb01:02
ubotuI know nothing about anything, so i am dumb01:02
tony___saves me from having to search and download01:02
abattoirI hope ubotu or seveas dont kick me out :P01:02
abattoirjust couldnt resist the temptation01:02
TheHighChildtony__ adept will show you a list of available packages01:02
DaSkreechtony___: Huh?01:03
h3sp4wntony___: /var/log/dpkg.log - but /var/log/aptitude is more verbose01:03
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tony___i installed xchat using apt-get but i didn't see it in adept01:03
imbrandonabattoir: ;)01:03
DaSkreechHa ha :) abattoir run!!!01:03
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DaSkreechtony__: Just filter on chat :)01:04
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abattoir:P01:04
tony___filter? sorry, i'm a noob to even irc01:04
DaSkreechBKaj: Hello?01:04
abattoirCntryboy: works?01:05
DaSkreechtony___: In Adept there is a search bar at the top just type in chat01:05
omeowblagh, I'm done for today01:05
TheHighChildtony__ give it a few seconds to filter through the lists01:05
h3sp4wntony__: http://people.debian.org/~dburrows/aptitude-doc/en/ (that is all you would ever need to know about package management)01:05
tony___oh yea, i see xchat now. what a boob i am01:06
ryanakcawhy doesn't konqueror store certs? I go to https://gmail.com , it says something along the lines of "Certificate does not match IP"... "Details, Continue, Cancel".... Continure: "Store certificate / remember this option".... "Forever, Just for this session". I allwais pick "Forever", and it alwais asks me... same for the wiki.kubuntu.org01:06
abattoirryanakca: i think that is a bug01:06
abattoirabout the 'Forever' bit01:07
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abattoirryanakca: there is also a cert issue w/ wiki.kubuntu.org01:07
ryanakcaabattoir: it's been around for eons... it was around even when dapper was beta... back in early April I first noticed it...01:07
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tony___why use konquerer for browsing?01:07
Zairewhoops01:07
Zairelol01:07
BKajkonq is slow as molasses on my pc01:07
ryanakcafine then... I won't answer... :P01:07
D4m4gebye01:08
tony___i think i'm still in the server, why's it say i left?01:08
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BKajas a browser01:08
LjL"because it's a web browser"...?01:08
ryanakcaoh... it's faster than FF here...01:08
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h3sp4wnIts not faster than firefox for me (or I would use it) - Using mozilla.org firefox01:08
BKajswiftfox is fast for AMD64s01:08
abattoirryanakca: i would second that01:08
ZaireFireFox is best browser lol01:08
imbrandonswiftfox is buggy also ;)01:09
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LjLand emacs is the best text editor, yeah, but anyway01:09
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LjLthe answer to "why use konqueror?" is "right, why use it?". you use it if you like it, just like with everything else01:09
tony___why does my hard drive seem so slow on linux? when i extract or search, it takes a long time01:09
imbrandonok enough browser wars, take it to #kubuntu-offtopic for more01:09
crimsuntony___: you're not pedaling fast enough.01:09
LjLi like it, and it integrates with my KDE desktop, contrary to firefox (which i don't dislike at all anyway)01:09
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gnomefreakoh crap01:10
ryanakcaonly thing I don't like about konq is that GMail is buggy... but no big.. still usable01:10
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ryanakcaFF is nice... konqueror is KDE :P01:10
tony___so how do i use the pedal command in the terminal?01:10
DaSkreechtony___: You have a lot of files01:10
DaSkreechlol good comeback01:10
abattoirryanakca: have you changed Konqueror's ID for gmail.com?01:10
ryanakcayeah01:10
crimsuntony___: (it was a joke referring to bicycle pedals)01:10
BKajbbl01:10
tony___i know, i'm playing along with it01:10
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imbrandonlol @ crimsun01:11
crimsunwell in that case, you need to check your hdparm settings.01:11
tony___i typed hdparm and there's just so many settings, and i didn't find a frontend for it01:11
crimsunalias hdparm='pedal '01:11
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crimsunerr01:11
crimsunbah, backward01:12
imbrandonhehe01:12
LjLtony___: "apt-cache search hdparm frontend"01:12
Zairecan anyone pastebin their repositories source list? preferably one with mp3 repositories lol01:13
tony___ok, i got "linhdd - GTK frontend for cfdisk/df/hdparm/mkfs", what next?01:13
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ryanakcaholy ****! I just had an explosion.... spam wise...01:13
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LjL!tell zaire about easysource01:13
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ryanakcafrom ~ 1 spam a month to 20 in 3 days!01:13
Zaireyea I tried that and its like navigating through a maze01:13
senseiSpamassassin <301:13
LjLtony___: uh, next install it :o) that looks rather like a hdparm frontend, i think :)01:14
Zairewhich is why i asked for pastebing01:14
ryanakcaall of it is asian... sensei: on gmail?01:14
tony___ok, i installed it but how do i get to it?01:14
senseiryanakca: Come again?01:14
tony___"linhdd, command not found"01:14
ryanakcaspamassasin on gmail web interface???01:14
LjLtony___: not that i'd know how to use it though. and, even though i *have* used hdparm itself, i don't really remember the syntax to do things off hand, and i also don't want to feel responsible for giving bad advice, as hdparm can be dangerous. just type "hdparm" on google and you'll find plenty tutorials01:15
senseiryanakca: Doesn't gmail do pop3? :/01:15
ryanakcayes...01:15
senseiThen what's the prob? :)01:15
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ryanakcabut I like gmail web interface vs anything01:15
senseiOkay, gotta chose I guess :)01:15
omglazersHey can anyone here tell me the fastest mirror to grab Kubuntu for a Power PC?01:15
senseiUnless you get two gmails and .forwards to the other from the first, but that's plain retarded on the other hand01:16
LjLZaire: oh, well, as the name says, it's supposed to be "easy"... anyway, i'm not sure how useful pasting my own sources.list would be. for instance, i have no idea what you mean with "mp3 repositories"01:16
tony___thanks for the advice. yes, i've used plenty of hard drive utilities but i just wish we could get out of the command line. it takes too much time to learn01:16
BKajtorrent on your continent or country seems fastest01:16
omglazersBKaj: Can't use torrent (college servers block it)01:16
LjLtony___: it's "linHDD"01:16
imbrandonomglazers: any of them have ppc version01:16
omglazersIf you were even talking to me that is :P01:16
BKajbummer omglazers01:16
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omglazersimbrandon: I know I just mean one was like est. download of about 4 hrs and I dont wanna wait that long01:17
imbrandonomglazers: just pick a mirror close to you01:17
word_omglazers: because of piracy or they just don't like torrents?01:17
LjLtony___: when you can't find the name for a program you installed, do "dpkg -L linhdd" (or substitute whatever program), and you'll get a list of the files the package contains. that way you can see which command it is01:17
omglazersword_: Piracy pressures01:17
omglazersimbrandon: I don't know which one to find01:17
imbrandonomglazers: where are you at ?01:17
omglazersFlorida01:17
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imbrandonus.archive.ubnutun.com01:18
BKajhttp I guess01:18
LjLtony___: anyway, i'm not sure you'd really want to use linhdd. i'm just trying it, and it doesn't look like it can actually change (m)any of the hdparm settings01:18
imbrandonubuntu.com*01:18
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TheHighChildomglazers: Have you tried setting up BT on non standard ports?01:18
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omglazersTheHighChild: No.. No clue how to do that :(01:18
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TheHighChildomglazers: What client are you using?01:18
omglazersIm just trying to set up Kubuntu cause I wanna try linux and I dont know about reporting bittorrent01:19
LjLtony___: let's just type "sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/hda" (if your hd is /dev/hda) and see how fast it's actually going, just to get an idea -- be sure there is no program chewing on the HD while you do the test01:19
imbrandonomglazers: we have woman developers , that makes no diff ;)01:19
whizz-does anybody know where the win32-codecs for mplayer go?01:19
omglazersTheHighChild: I dont use one because I couldnt ever get it to work01:19
ryanakcaoh.... I'm pissed off... because of REVU... my e-mail is on google01:19
omglazersimbrandon: But thats my only excuse!!! :(01:19
tony___ok, i'll try it, thanks01:19
imbrandonheh01:19
LjLtony___: then try "sudo hdparm -i /dev/hda" and see if DMA in enabled, and to what level01:19
omglazersI'm not even a computer major, im doubled in premeds :(01:19
omglazersHows that01:19
imbrandonheh01:19
Cntryboyok back01:19
Cntryboyabattoir yes it works, thx again01:20
abattoirCntryboy: and the sudo issue :P01:20
mcscruffhi, im haveing trouble burning dvd films, im using k3b, new project- dvd video , and then im adding all the files from my hdd (it is already in dvd format with the audio and video folder) , i burn it with k3b but in every dvd player/laptop it says its not a dvd video01:20
tony___i got 790 mb/s and 50 mb/s, is that bad?01:20
LjLtony___: no, not at all, unless your HD is supposed to be *very* fast01:20
Cntryboyabattoir oh from yesterday, well I ended up rebooting and I still get errors with kate but it loads so I guess I had to reboot not sure why01:20
abattoirwhizz-: /usr/lib/win3201:20
tony___it's a 7200rpm 8mb cache seagate01:21
imbrandonmcscruff: it takes more than that, they have to be arranged in a certain order on the disk also, lookup dvd iso on google01:21
TheHighChildomglazers: I use azureus. You cna 'apt-get install azureus' but I think it's in the multiverse. When installed, you can go to Tools > Options > Connection and define the port there.01:21
abattoirCntryboy: when in trouble, and no other solution exists, reboot ;)01:21
mcscruffimbrandon: it is all layed out correctly01:21
imbrandonmcscruff: i'm not talking about layout01:21
whizz-thx abattoir01:21
omglazersTheHighChild: lol, i'm not even using Linux yet. I'm TRYING to download kubuntu and get it on my Powerbook!01:21
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imbrandonmcscruff: i mean the actual order its on the disk01:22
mcscruffimbrandon: it burns under windows.... its all correct01:22
omglazersTheHighChild: Tell me that when I get it installed ;)01:22
imbrandonmcscruff: i'm not talking about layout01:22
LjLtony___: well, mine does 60mb/s right now, and it's also a 7200 8mb (maxtor, though). but your value seems to be quite in line anyway (and it can vary a little between tests)01:22
OODomglazers: bitcomet is a good windows bittorrent client01:22
Stormfysthola. need someone to answer some basic questions for me01:22
Stormfystanyone available?01:22
TheHighChildomglazers: LOL, ok. Hit me up after install ;)01:22
Cntryboyabattoir: only issue I have with ubuntu now really is I have a geforce fx5500 and it won't let me use regular nvidia-glx drivers with out my monitor going to sleep, so I installed legacys and it does work.. Now I did that with gnome with legacy and it worked but the games were jerky as shit, with kde and legacy the run smooth as windows if not better.01:22
LjLtony___: try sudo hdparm -i /dev/hda too, just to make sure the fastest DMA mode is selected01:22
imbrandonmcscruff: thats becouse what you use to burn it in windows knows the correct order, k3b dosent01:22
LjL!ask01:22
omglazersTheHighChild: Yea yea ok.. if it ever downloads01:22
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:22
imbrandonand dosent claim to01:22
Stormfystubotu i'm making sure people are listening.  ;-)01:22
ubotuI know nothing about i'm making sure people are listening.  ;-)01:22
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Stormfystheh01:22
Stormfystok.  i downloaded kubuntu iso01:23
Stormfystburned the image to disk01:23
omglazersOh also, anyone here mind helping me with drive partitioning and format questions? :D01:23
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Stormfysti have an ibm thinkpad 1700 pii 300mhz 128mb ram machine01:23
Stormfystwith dvd drive01:23
abattoirCntryboy: hmm, i have no experience w/ nvidia, but well KDE rocks, that's why :P01:23
LjLStormfyst: that's very little RAM. you should probably use the alternate CD, not the main ("desktop") cd01:23
Stormfystthe file that i burned is the desktop iso01:23
TheHighChildomglazers: Are you intalling on a PPC powerbook or a Macbook?01:23
omglazersTheHighChild: PPC Powerbook01:24
StormfystAHH01:24
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tony___between all the mumbo jumbo, i can't see anything significantly telling me dma is on but it does see the mdma 0, 1, and 201:24
LjLStormfyst: the Desktop version is not really intended for systems with less than 192 megs of RAM01:24
Stormfystwhat i'm trying to do is INSTALL kubuntu01:24
Stormfystok01:24
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Cntryboywell gotta go for a bit01:24
Stormfystso there are different version of kubutnu?01:24
OODStormfyst: you should probably go for Xubuntu instead01:24
LjLStormfyst: no01:24
Cntryboyabattoir: take care bro01:24
TheHighChildomglazers: Ok, I can't really help there as I don't know the PPC arch of kubuntu but make sure you let any folks trying to help know that, so they can be sure to give you the most accurate info01:24
LjLStormfyst: it's just two different installation methods01:24
tony___hey TheHighChild, do you ever play wolfenstein ET on the Sh*tstorm forums?01:24
LjLStormfyst: the Desktop CD uses a graphical installer, and it's a "live CD", while the alternate CD uses a text-mode installer01:24
Stormfystcan someone shed some light on that or point me to a sight to educate myself?01:24
omglazersTheHighChild: Well all I want to know is not really technical, but more, planning or common sense01:25
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omglazers:(01:25
TheHighChildtony___: Lol, that'd be me01:25
lphuberdeauanyone ever encountered stange problems with kubuntu? because I have a huge one now01:25
LjLStormfyst: the Desktop CD has higher RAM requirements because of that01:25
Stormfystahh01:25
imbrandonTheHighChild: i use ppc kubuntu on a ppc iBook01:25
Stormfystso download the alternate iso and try with that install?01:25
LjLStormfyst: also, be aware that - at least in my experience - running Ubuntu with only 128 megs of RAM is going to be a... slow... experience01:25
omglazersimbrandon: HELLLLLLLLLOOOOOO BRANDON :D01:25
LjLStormfyst: yeah01:25
tony___really? the only TheHighChild i know online and i remember browsing the forums years ago01:25
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imbrandonStormfyst: yea01:25
OODStormfyst: i think you should get Xubuntu, it uses XFCE instead of KDE whic is much lighter on resources01:25
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TheHighChildimbrandon: omglazers was asking about partitioning info. i didn't want to venture into that as I don't have a machine for reference01:25
crimsunimbrandon: hah, you're it.01:25
omglazers:(01:25
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imbrandonomglazers: keep the lang PG in here though ;)01:26
StormfystSo Kubuntu is more of an interface into linux?01:26
omglazers=-o01:26
omglazersSorry01:26
TheHighChildtony___:  Yeah man. I've been at it for a few years, kept the nick but I'm the same gay. What's your handle?01:26
sponixanyone have hangs on bind9 shutdown scripts ?01:26
omglazersMind if I privately talk to you? :(01:26
imbrandonehehe01:26
omglazersI'll love you forever01:26
imbrandonlol @ crimsun , my turn huh ;)01:26
LjLStormfyst: Kubuntu is just Ubuntu with KDE instead of Gnome (just like Xubuntu is just Ubuntu with XFCE). but, yes, Gnome, KDE and XFCE are just interfaces on top of the Linux kernel01:26
abattoirStormfyst: Kubuntu uses Ubuntu's base w/ KDE01:26
imbrandonomglazers: no i dont mind01:26
StormfystAHHH01:26
tony___mine's KommieKiller on the forums and the game, named so since I used to play nothing but the ally side01:26
Stormfystso yeah i had the whole idea wrong01:26
Stormfystso Xubuntu then.01:26
Stormfystthanks a ton!01:27
Stormfystthis damn p2 machine is killign me lol01:27
lphuberdeauI was configuring kontact and it crashed at some point. Ever since, kontact and konqueror won't start, kopete won't connect to networks and not all sections are accessible in the control panel... ever heard of this?01:27
TheHighChildtony___: Oh hey man. Of course I remember you.01:27
sponixcrimsun:  you seen that, bind9 shutdown scripts hang the box for shutdown/reboot ?01:27
LjLStormfyst: it really depends on which desktop you like best. but, yeah, Xubuntu with XFCE is going to be a bit faster on a machine with little RAM01:27
tony___been a while since i played the game but still lots of fun01:27
Stormfystvery much appreciated gang01:27
mcscruffimbrandon: no matte what order i add them in in k3b they always goto alphabetical01:27
tony___i had to go without broadband for a while so i didn't visit the forums anymore01:27
tony___btw, the game runs like crap on linux for me, still trying to figure it out01:28
abattoirlphuberdeau: have you tried executing those programs from the command line, if so you get any errors?01:28
imbrandonmcscruff: there is ways to make the dvd iso before you burn it, thus i sugested you google it01:28
LjLStormfyst: also keep in mind that Ubuntu is quite a bit more "polished" than either Kubuntu and Xubuntu, which are younger and a bit behind in development01:28
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Stormfystoh, mone more question.  what is Dapper?01:28
lphuberdeausure did01:28
Stormfystso ljl do you think it would be more prudent to install ubuntu instead?01:28
LjLStormfyst: Dapper Drake is the nickname for the current version of Ubuntu (i.e. version 6.06)01:28
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lphuberdeauX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16801:28
TheHighChildtony___: You have 3d drivers installed?01:29
Stormfystwow  too much stuff going on here lol01:29
abattoirlphuberdeau: only that? if it is large, you can !paste it01:29
abattoir!paste01:29
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:29
lphuberdeaufew more codes after that (major 145, minor 3, resource 0x0)01:29
StormfystDapper Drake = Kubuntu = Ubuntu = Linux01:29
tony___yeah. movies run just fine with my nvidia card, it's just seemingly full screen games01:29
lphuberdeaunothing significant01:29
abattoirlphuberdeau: do you get the prompt back after that?01:29
lphuberdeaunope01:29
tony___or opengl games i guess01:29
lphuberdeauapplication running in the background it seems01:29
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TheHighChildtony___: What card are you using? Also, are you registered? if so we can take this into a private chat01:30
LjLStormfyst: i don't really know. i think you should, but on the other hand you're likely to end up with something too slow to bear. and also, *my* (personal) feeling is that while XFCE is faster, it doesn't really make that much of a difference. it mostly depends on the *application programs* you use, rather than the desktop environment. but that's just me.01:30
abattoirlphuberdeau: hmmm, have you tried re-installing/ upgrading these apps? or are you using dapper up-to-date?01:30
lphuberdeauabattoir: yes and yes, using 6.0601:30
abattoirlphuberdeau: if you have other users, do these apps launch for them(or for root) ?01:31
tony___nvidia 6800gt, i don't know what you mean by registered, i have only had kubuntu installed for almost a week and i'm an irc noob01:31
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LjLStormfyst: err, that's a bit simplicistic. first, Linux is just a kernel, while Ubuntu is a distribution including lots of software (chiefly: Linux and the GNU tool suite). then there is X-Window, which is the standard graphical environment on Unix, and you can choose between a few different desktop environments like KDE, Gnome etc.  Ubuntu, for convenience, has elected to release different CDs "customized" for various desktop environments: Ubun01:32
LjLr XFCE..01:32
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TheHighChildtony___: I meant registered on IRC. I'm an IRC noob too and don't know how to tell you to register lol.01:33
apokryphos!register01:34
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration01:34
TheHighChildBarreled!01:34
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tony___i didn't know you  have to register to im, and i don't see the option01:34
TheHighChildtony___: You only have to be registered to speak in a private message01:34
apokryphosUnregistered users can't PM others, by default.01:35
TheHighChildwell said01:35
apokryphoswas introduced by Freenode when the bot floods started and repeatedly PMed users01:35
tony___i'm using Konversation and i just don't see the option01:36
apokryphosif you *really* want unregistered users to be able to send you PMs, then you can change your user-settings01:36
apokryphostony___: option for what? To register?01:36
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TheHighChildtony___: You see the link that apokryphos had ubotu post?01:36
tony___oh, ok, thanks. too busy looking otherwise01:36
apokryphosuse that link, or just /msg nickserv help register01:36
TheHighChildtony___: Just so you know, with Konversation. If you use a persons nick, the message will appear in red. Just a cool trick to keep track of who is talking to you01:37
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tony___TheHighChild, yeah, i'm beginning to notice01:38
DaSkreechTheHighChild: I also have it throw up a notice on the screen and play a sound :)01:39
TheHighChildtony___: You can start typing someone's name and press tab to complete it, like in konsole01:39
abattoirTheHighChild: LEDs are cool too :P01:39
TheHighChildI settle for the flashing icon in the systray ;) I should rig upa sound though01:39
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tony___TheHighChild: O01:41
tony___i'm supposedly registered now01:41
Tommy2k4my sendmail is broke01:41
Tommy2k4 if i use mail() in a php page it takes 1min before the page eventually loads and the mail sends01:41
Tommy2k4and when starting the sendmail daemon on boot up it froze for like 5mins01:41
Tommy2k4any ideas?01:41
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apokryphostony___: indeed you are01:41
tony___btw, i don't know how i got the underscores after my name, i guess it just automatically did it01:41
DaSkreechTheHighChild: I want a flashing taskbar :(01:41
apokryphostony___: I presume tony was taken ;-)01:42
apokryphos(as was tony_ most probably)01:42
eXCeSSahah01:42
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tony___i guess so but i thought it would ask me what name i wanted to use or register01:42
apokryphostony___: nope, it uses the name you currently have. If you wish, you can register another nickname.01:42
tony___anyhow, that was easy enough01:43
TheHighChildDaSkreech: Settings >configure Konversation > Behavior > general > enable system tray01:43
tony___this one's fine01:43
TheHighChildtony___: Send me a message /msg TheHighChild01:43
DaSkreechTheHighChild: Eh?01:43
TheHighChildDaSkreech: You said you wanted a flashing tray icon01:44
DaSkreechNo taskbar :)01:44
omglazersbrb01:46
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RaitoHow do you change file associations? I want videos to auto open with vlc not Kaffeine01:59
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kkathmanRaito:  kcontrol - KDE Components - File Associations02:00
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nixternalRaito: right click the file, then select "open with", and there is a place to select "Rember application association for this type of file", select it and press ok02:00
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nixternalselect other after the open with02:00
Raitokkathman: alright, trying, nixternal: I did that, it only lets vlc be on the list, but kaffeine is still higher02:01
senseiRaito: kcontrol02:02
nixternali just selected kaffeine02:02
senseiAs kkathman just said.. right.. bed time02:02
kkathmanin the procedure I gave you, you can decide which is first02:02
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eXCeSS!ati02:02
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:02
bianconeriHello02:03
bianconeriI need help with installing vmware on kubuntu02:04
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nixternalbianconeri: vmplayer, server, workstation02:04
nixternalwhich one?02:04
bianconerivmplayer02:04
nixternalvmplayer is in the repositories...you just need to enable universe/multiverse repositories, then install via adept, synaptic, or apt-get02:05
nixternalhave you tried that way?02:05
bianconeriI get this on the command line :"E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"02:05
bianconeriNo I tried installing from source...now I have it in my program list but it doesn't work...02:06
nixternalsudo apt-get install vmware-player02:06
nixternalyou get that error?02:06
m_tadeuwhy is rapip saying "could not connect to host localhost"?02:06
nixternalbianconeri: you can just enable the repositories and use the player built for ubuntu02:07
bianconeriHow do I do that...I am new to Ubuntu02:07
nixternalno problem02:07
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nixternalsweet..they aren't in universe/multivers...02:08
nixternalbianconeri: are you familiar with the command line at all?02:08
bianconeribtw I typed in the command you gave me its saying now:02:08
bianconeribianconeri@bianconeri-desktop:~$  sudo apt-get install vmware-player02:08
bianconeriPassword:02:08
bianconeriReading package lists... Done02:09
nixternaltype your password02:09
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bianconeriBuilding dependency tree... Done02:09
bianconerivmware-player is already the newest version.02:09
bianconeri0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 40 not upgraded.02:09
bianconeri1 not fully installed or removed.02:09
klerfaytfirefox likes to crash after some hours of google video02:09
bianconeriNeed to get 0B of archives.02:09
nixternalahh..that is because you installed it via source02:09
bianconeriAfter unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.02:09
bianconeriSetting up vmware-player (1.0.1-4) ...02:09
bianconeriNow configuring VMware Player.  (This may take some time...)02:09
bianconeriConfiguring a bridged network for vmnet0.02:09
bianconeriConfiguring a NAT network for vmnet8.02:09
bianconeriProbing for an unused private subnet (this can take some time)...02:09
bianconeriThe subnet 172.16.84.0/255.255.255.0 appears to be unused.02:09
bianconeriThe file /etc/vmware/vmnet8/dhcpd/dhcpd.conf that this program was about to02:09
bianconeriinstall already exists.  Overwrite? [yes] 02:09
bianconeriya I am not that ignorant:)02:09
bianconeriya so shall I say overwrite?02:09
sensei!pastebin02:09
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:09
nixternalto late for that sensei ;)02:10
senseiJust for future reference :)02:10
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nixternalbianconeri: yes02:10
bianconerisorry guys I didn't mean to I intended to paste the last two lines (the overwrite one)...anyways ill check out pastebin02:11
nixternalheheh02:11
nixternalbianconeri: you can use pastebin if you need to paste like that in the future02:11
nixternalyou are fine02:11
nixternalno harm no foul02:11
bianconerii chose yes 4 times for 4 different htings02:11
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nixternalthat is vmware for you02:11
nixternalinstall server, 4 is nothing ;)02:11
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bianconeriOk thanx nix ill see what happens...but I kinda have a stupid question also...I just wanna run Windows on linux nothing more nothing less...so vmplayer is what i need right?02:13
DaSkreechOr xen :)02:13
abattoiror qemu02:14
nixternalvmplayer will work, as long as you have created a silly vmplayer package...now that i am not familiar with...i use vmware server, which is huge, but easy02:14
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nixternali use vmplayer on my other systems though to connect to the vm's i created with server02:14
nixternali don't know how to go about creating one with the player or if it is even possible02:14
LjLwww.easyvmx.com is handy for creating empty VMs02:14
imbrandonqemi-img02:15
imbrandonqemu-img02:15
imbrandoni mean02:15
LjLimbrandon: that only creates the disk image AFAIK, but not the .vmx config file02:15
imbrandonor easyvmx ;)02:15
m_tadeuanyone knows anything about rapip?02:15
bianconeriE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:15
nixternalLjL: thx for that link02:15
bianconerisame problem02:15
imbrandonLjL: yea but its easy to make a simple vmx txt file ;')02:15
imbrandonbrb02:15
LjLimbrandon: if you know the syntax, then yeah, i suppose so... but easyvmx.com is there for you if you don't02:16
nixternalcan you just dpkg-reconfig the vmware-player package?02:16
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nixternalactually..that probably won't work eithere02:16
LjLwhat is the actual problem anyway?02:16
nixternalit isn't working02:17
nixternalhe installed via source originally02:17
LjLlike what?02:17
nixternal[19:16]  <bianconeri> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:17
LjLyeah, that doesn't say much though02:17
LjLbut still, let me have a try02:17
nixternaltake over mr vm man ;)02:17
crimsunuse -D377302:17
imbrandonhehe02:17
bianconeriok that pastebin thingy isnt working02:18
crimsunwant output? Have output.02:18
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LjLbianconeri: please type       apt-cache policy linux-image-`uname -r` | grep Installed       and then type    apt-cache policy vmware-player-kernel-source  | grep Installed02:19
LjLand give us the output02:19
bianconeri  Installed: 2.6.15-23.39  ....for the first command02:19
LjLbianconeri: oh sorry, the second one is wrong02:20
bianconeri Installed: (none) for the second one:D02:20
LjLapt-cache policy vmware-player-kernel-modules | grep Installed02:20
BrigadierFrogwhy does the installer crash when installing grub ?02:20
BrigadierFrogand can I make it use lilo instead02:20
LjLbianconeri: hmm you still have kernel -23. there is -25 around from the security repo02:20
bianconeri@ LjL:  Installed: 2.6.15.10-7...for the second one02:21
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LjLbianconeri: ok, then i think i know what the problem is02:21
imbrandondist-upgrade02:21
bianconerienlighten me:)02:21
LjLbianconeri: you have the vmware modules that were made for kernel version 2.6.15-25, but you have kernel 2.6.15-2302:22
bianconerisince I installed from the wrong source?02:22
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LjLbianconeri: you need to get the newer kernel. try the dist-upgrade first, and if that doesn't give you the new kernel, then pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list02:22
bianconeriI installed the latest kubuntu image a week ago02:22
LjLbianconeri: no. i don't really know why you don't have the newer kernel. you should have got it from the security updates..02:22
BrigadierFrogdoes grub require ext2, I just read that somewhere02:23
BrigadierFrogI was unaware of that requirement02:23
bianconeriok which brings us to...how do I upgrade the kernal:D02:23
imbrandonbianconeri: type " sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade " then reboot and see if you have the new kernel02:23
imbrandonBrigadierFrog: no02:23
LjLbianconeri: like i said, "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"02:23
LjLbianconeri: if that gives you a new kernel, you'll notice02:23
BrigadierFrogok, thats what I thought...02:23
BrigadierFrogthen why in the hell does the install crash when it tries to install grub I wonder02:24
LjLbianconeri: if it doesn't, then your /etc/apt/sources.list is wrong and we'll have to fix it02:24
senseiWhere's the changelogs for kubuntu packages? Like now I noticed there's a new package for passwd available for me.. where can I track the changes?02:24
imbrandonBrigadierFrog: what is your partition setup >?02:24
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bianconeriE: There are problems and -y was used without --force-....i got this on the last line ...is that normal?02:24
BrigadierFroghda1 15gb ntfs02:24
BrigadierFroghda2 xfs 8gb02:24
BrigadierFroghda3 swap 1gb02:24
BrigadierFroghda4 xfs 11gb02:25
imbrandonsensei: grub != xfs02:25
LjLsensei: perhaps you could use apt-listchanges02:25
LjLbianconeri: no, it's not. paste the entire output on the apstebin please02:25
imbrandonerr BrigadierFrog grub != xfs02:25
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BrigadierFrogyou asked for partition setup, I told you...02:25
BrigadierFrogwhat are you talking about02:25
senseiLjL: I'll check it out, thanks02:26
h3sp4wngrub cannot be installed on an xfs partition (at least with the kubuntu installer)02:26
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bianconerilol ur gonna kill me....but how do i use pastebin...I am new to IRC also:S02:26
BrigadierFrogthen why the hell doesn't it say so when I'm installing02:26
BrigadierFrogfuck, gotta reinstall again02:26
imbrandonlanguage please02:26
h3sp4wn100meg mounted on /boot ext3 and you are fine02:26
actinic!pastebin02:26
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:26
LjLbianconeri: just go to the pastebin site, at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org , and paste the output there. then give me the URL address of your paste02:26
sysrpnis 10GB a parition too small for ubuntu/kubuntu?02:27
LjLsysrpn: no02:27
BrigadierFrogwell, user friendly linux includes, you know, explaining what won't work02:27
imbrandonsensei: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com02:27
Kr4t05sysrpn, nope, not at all.02:27
imbrandonbrb02:27
sysrpni am considering a dual boot thing here02:27
bianconerihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1729302:27
senseity imbrandon02:27
BrigadierFrogwell what about ext302:27
BrigadierFrogwill it install on ext3 ?02:27
LjLsure02:27
TheHighChildyes02:27
imbrandonBrigadierFrog: ext3 is fine02:27
BrigadierFroggreat02:27
LjLext3 is the default filesystem in Ubuntu02:28
sysrpnwill the live dapper drake dvd make dual booting simple?02:28
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BrigadierFrogxfs worked fine the last version02:28
BrigadierFrogI had / xfs and /home xfs, no problems02:28
DaSkreechI have /home xfs02:28
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LjLbianconeri: uhm... that doesn't really sound like a serious problem. but still, before trying again, please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list - i think there's something weird going on there02:28
DaSkreechFor some reason the installer doesn't like /xfs02:28
imbrandonBrigadierFrog: but not xfs /boot02:28
BrigadierFrogI didn't have a /boot02:29
BrigadierFrogI was using lilo02:29
BrigadierFrogbecause you know, it works good02:29
Kr4t05Does anyone know anything about Crossfire? (The game)02:29
LjLsysrpn: dual booting has never been a problem for me...02:29
imbrandonlilo != grub ;)02:29
BrigadierFrogI noticed...02:29
LjLsysrpn: the ubuntu installer just installs grub, which recognizes my windows partition and lets me boot from there. always worked quite well for me02:29
h3sp4wngrub is suppost to work with xfs02:29
bianconerihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1729402:30
imbrandonh3sp4wn: supose to and reality are two diffrent things02:30
LjLbianconeri: ouch automatix... anyway, the sources.list seems to be good enough02:31
h3sp4wnimbrandon: It has been specifically stated as added to grub I think its something ubuntu has done that has broken it02:31
LjLbianconeri: just run "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade", without the "-y" option02:31
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BrigadierFrogh3sp4wn: like cups ?02:32
LjLbianconeri: and when it says that the packages are not authenticated and wether you want to continue... well, either follow the procedure for adding a GPG key, or ignore that and continue. your choice02:32
LjL!gpgerr02:32
ubotuGetting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Read the top section of http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:32
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h3sp4wnBrigadierFrog: I don't use it fortunately02:32
BrigadierFrogh3sp4wn: well its broken... you have to go config yourself to make it work the right way02:32
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senseiShould the user really be presented with the python traceback when apt-listchange a package that doesn't have an entry ?02:33
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senseiCould be confusing for the vast less knowing userbase kubuntu has02:33
bianconeri@ LjL I accepted and ignored....waiting for it to finish....whats so wrong with automatix?:P02:33
mankeythe new amarok packages, from http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141, are similar to the ones in http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/, or are they more stable?02:33
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h3sp4wnBrigadierFrog: I use the bsd lpd/lpr with a really old laserjet which causes me no problems (on the rare occasions I need to print)02:33
LjLsensei: er, i stopped using apt-listchanges long ago. don't quite remember how it worked02:34
mankeyi mean, are they more official?02:34
LjLbianconeri: well, it's broken and does bad things. at least that's what the bot used to say, before that factoid was changed. anyway, everybody's always recommended against automatix in these channels02:34
senseiLjL: No biggie.. just looked so unkubuntuish :)02:34
LjL!automatix02:35
senseiAnyways, can't find the login package on changelogs.ubuntu.com02:35
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.02:35
LjLnow the ubuntu factoid is much easier on it02:35
LjLby the way, there is also...02:35
LjL!easyubuntu02:35
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.02:35
imbrandonmankey: amarok-141 and amarok-latest are the same , they are symlinked02:35
actinici've had no problems with automatix02:35
senseiShouldn't 'login' be in the main/ ?02:35
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LjL!info login02:36
ubotulogin: system login tools. In repository main, is required. Version 1:4.0.13-7ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 235 kB, installed size 2036 kB02:36
BrigadierFrogdoes the installer put grub in the mbr by default02:36
LjLBrigadierFrog: yes02:36
mankeyimbrandon: then why did i get the rss only today?02:36
BrigadierFrogso then it should overwrite lilo if lilo is there correct02:36
BrigadierFrogso long as grub can install02:36
bianconeriI downloaded it but didn't work...I didnt really spend much time on it figuring out whats wrong...so you reccomend easyubuntu over automatix02:36
bianconeri?02:36
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imbrandonmankey: it was just packaged last night02:36
vksunderasdf02:36
tony__can someone tell me how to register again?02:36
BrigadierFrogwell, hopefully it'll install this time...02:36
imbrandon!register02:36
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration02:36
senseiLjL: Okay, so there aren't changelogs for everything? :O02:36
tony__thanks02:36
LjLbianconeri: i recommend using neither, myself. but yeah, i suppose if i really had to try one of the two, i'd choose easyubuntu02:37
LjLsensei: i think not02:37
mankeyimbrandon: what is the previous "amarok-latest" version? 1.4.0?02:37
imbrandon1.4.0a02:37
LjLbianconeri: but now that you've already used automatix, *don't* use easyubuntu02:37
senseiOkay.. why ? :O Security by obscurity? Laziness? Or what's the plan? :)02:37
TheHighChild!tell tony__ about register02:37
LjLbianconeri: just leave everything as it, and hope it's been nice02:37
bianconeriSo you will teach me how to remove automatix...but not now let me finish with vmplayer first:P02:37
LjLsensei: i vote laziness02:37
senseiHehe okay02:38
LjLbianconeri: i don't think there is a way to "remove" it other than reinstalling02:38
senseiYeah, sounds most open sourceish I suppose02:38
mankeyimbrandon: is it unstable?02:38
TheHighChildtony__: How did it go?02:38
LjLbianconeri: automatix is not a program that stays running on your system. it's a script that changes configuration files and installs stuff.02:38
LjLso you can't remove it02:38
imbrandonmankey: its stable just not officialy supported02:38
actinicdid you guys know there's automatix for kubuntu now?02:39
Zaireamarok is decent I myself prefer xmms02:39
imbrandonactinic: yes we know02:39
LjLactinic: ah, so they decided kubuntu is not buggy enough by itself? :)02:39
imbrandonNON SUPPORT in #kubuntu-offtopic02:39
actinichttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203294&highlight=kubuntu02:39
bianconeriaha ill just leave it lurking there then....if its unadvisable then I won't use it...I went to hell and back lots of times before when installing programs:P SO i think i could handle it02:39
imbrandonNON SUPPORT in #kubuntu-offtopic02:40
actinicerrror error, non support, non support02:40
LjL!caps02:40
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.02:40
LjL:-)02:40
Zairedanger will robinson lol02:40
tony__it keeps telling me my name is already register02:40
imbrandonLjL: some obivouisly cant02:40
TheHighChildtony__: didn't you just register it?02:41
tony__yeah, but apparently i can't im you02:41
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LjLimbrandon: uhm, does *one* like (a link) after your first warning count as "some obviously can't"?02:41
mankeyimbrandon: when will we get an officially supported version and IN WHICH REPO?02:41
LjLs/like/line/02:41
mankeyimbrandon: backports?02:41
crimsunmankey: 1.4.1 has been uploaded to Edgy already.02:41
LjLmankey: of what, amarok? i think nowhere02:41
imbrandonmankey: for dapper its unlikely and it would be in backports02:42
tony__do i go to settings...identities to change it?02:42
apokryphos!amarok02:42
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php02:42
bianconeriso LjL I should wait for it to finish and then restart and check my kernal..(what is the command for that btw?)....then come back here so you can help me with vmplayer?02:42
Zairek can anyone tell me which nvidia driver I should apt for my XFX FX 5200 my cards 3 years old so was curious if I need the GLX or legacy02:42
imbrandonmankey: kubuntu.org repos will be as close as you get to "official" for a while02:42
mankeyis edgy already quite useable?02:42
LjLwe know about that apokryphos, but he was looking for something more official. but i don't think there'll be any such thing for dapper02:42
crimsunkubuntu.org is, for all practical purposes, official02:42
imbrandonmankey: no02:43
DaSkreechmankey: It's Bloody fast02:43
apokryphosLjL: the repository is quite official02:43
DaSkreechmankey: Jackknifes through stuff02:43
Zairecrimsun: which nvidia driver I should apt for my XFX FX 5200 my cards 3 years old so was curious if I need the GLX or legacy02:43
DaSkreechIt's like sliding on a knife's blade02:43
mankeyimbrandon: thank you02:43
TheHighChildtony__: Honeslt man, I/m not sure off hand, there;s a /msg nickserv command that lets you login02:43
LjLbianconeri: "uname -r" gives you the kernel version, but that's no use, because it gives the version of the *currently* running kernel. just look in the list of packages that are being downloaded if among the others there is a "linux-image-something" package02:43
crimsunZaire: FX 5200? the non-legacy one iirc.02:43
senseiZaire: glx for sure02:44
DaSkreechmankey: Also updates like 3 times every 5 seconds :)02:44
Zairecrimsun: iirc? FX 5200 yes02:44
senseiAlthough I have no idea why you call it 'glx'02:44
LjLapokryphos: definitely less official than dapper, dapper-security, dapper-updates and dapper-backports though... otherwise i can't see why new versions amarok (like koffice and kde) aren't simply but in backports. same used to go for breezy02:44
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bianconeri@ LjL: So far nothing02:45
apokryphosLjL: I agree they should be, too, but that's not where they go. I don't think backports is used much for Kubuntu packs like that.02:45
mankeyDaSkreech: then maybe i should wait one or two weeks before i upgrade to edgy02:45
LjLbianconeri: are a lot of other packages being updated though? if yes, then you should probably run dist-upgrade more often. security fixes are important to get02:45
Zaire?02:45
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LjLwell, joining #ubuntu+1 still gives me02:46
LjL[02:47]  [Notice]  -ChanServ- [#ubuntu+1]  Edgy Eft is not yet usable. Please don't use it yet.02:46
bianconeri84 mb02:46
LjLso yeah, i definitely guess so02:46
actinicgenerally when updates are available do most go ahead?02:46
crimsunLjL: there's a very simple reason they're not in backports. We can't pull in new packages.02:47
crimsunLjL: perhaps the more important reason is that the soyuz infrastructure to handle backports is WIP02:47
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Zaireso I need GLX then I take it02:48
LjLbianconeri: do upgrade more often. actually, Ubuntu is supposed to download updates automatically... the reason it's not doing that for you is probably the GPG error that you got earlier, which itself is (i assume) caused by the fact that you have some non-standard repos in your sources.list02:48
TheHighChildI've installed 'linux-686' and that was cool. When i do a dist-upgrade it wants to install all the 386 packages. Am I missing something? Or am I out of the loop/02:48
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h3sp4wnTheHighChild: Removed linux-386 ?02:49
TheHighChildh3sp4wn: no, where do i do that at?02:49
h3sp4wnTheHighChild: And purged all the 386 kernels ?02:49
TheHighChildh3sp4wn: sorry, still a nub02:49
h3sp4wnTheHighChild: sudo aptitude remove linux-38602:49
bianconeriLOL so I pretty much screwed up my system:P...no problem ill just do it from the command line:D02:50
TheHighChildh3sp4wn: Thanks man. You're always barreling! I appreciate it02:50
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bianconeri@ LjL: linux-image-2.6.15-25-386 2.6.15-25.43  downloading this now02:50
LjLbianconeri: no, not really. at least not from what i can say judging from your sources.list... which is quite reasonable, except for that couple of non-standard repos (which contains codecs, i suppose) at the end of the list02:50
LjLbianconeri: ok. then if everything installs without errors, i'm almost sure you'll able to get vmware player running after a reboot02:51
LjLby the way, is vmware player *supposed* to only be runnable as root?02:51
bianconeriaha great...will you be hanging around here within the next hour?02:51
LjL(guess so though... it needs its kernel modules)02:51
LjLbianconeri: yeah i think so02:52
bianconeriI don't know...I never tried it this is my first time:D02:52
LjLbianconeri: wasn't asking to you, i was asking to the channel in general :-) it's just that this talking about vmware reminded me that i wanted to ask this question02:53
marciomac02:53
h3sp4wnTheHighChild: aptitude search linux-image~i (and then - sudo aptitude purge anyoftheoneswith386inthem)02:53
TheHighChildwill these flags/options work with apt-get?02:53
bianconeriOk then...Ill just wait for it to finish downloading and shut up:P02:53
h3sp4wnTheHighChild: Use aptitude for the search one02:54
TheHighChildnvm guess not02:54
TheHighChildgotcha, thanks02:54
h3sp4wnapt-get remove may work but purge gets rid of things better I find (only ever use aptitude)02:55
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jinhohi I'm just curious- is anyone here using a radeon 9200 and has it working perfectly w/ OpenGL?02:55
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ErtainHow do I burn an NRG image file?02:56
h3sp4wnTheHighChild: apt-get remove --purge02:56
TheHighChildh3sp4wn: can aptitude be used like apt-get i.e 'aptitude install spank-blah' ? or do I have to navigate the interface?02:57
imbrandonErtain: buy nero for linux or use a standard iso next time02:57
DaSkreechTheHighChild: Try it02:57
h3sp4wnTheHighChild: It can for most things02:57
h3sp4wnTheHighChild: You can't do aptitude source blah though02:57
DaSkreechimbrandon: As I recall in Nero 5 it was just a renamed iso02:57
LjLbianconeri: i think you should consider commenting out the last four (uncommented) lines in your sources.list anyway. at any rate, any packages that you might have installed from those repositories will stay installed02:58
LjLbianconeri: and you'll probably stop getting the GPG errors, and most importantly automatic updates will work02:58
DaSkreechI don't know if that changed in subsequent versions02:58
h3sp4wnWhat about nrg2iso ?02:58
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jinhono one using a 9200?02:58
Ertainh3sp4wn: Tried that.  The ensuing ISO could not be used by K3B.  I even used the isovfy command to verify it.02:59
Zaire!ati02:59
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:59
h3sp4wnErtain: Tried cdrecord ?02:59
LjLh3sp4wn: using aptitude to search is a bit of a hassle imho... it doesn't search into descriptions without some awkward search patterns :\02:59
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h3sp4wnLjL: Think the way aptitude does search is alot more powerful03:00
salvadorhola03:00
Ertainh3sp4wn: I will try cdrecord.03:00
bianconeriOk ill try that:)03:00
h3sp4wnLjL: I only use apt-get source (and aptitude or dpkg-*)03:00
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LjLh3sp4wn: yeah, if you want to do "powerful" searches. but if you just want to make a plain search for names and descriptions, apt-cache becomes easier03:01
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LjLh3sp4wn: aptitude searches a bit slower, besides03:01
ErtainUh... How does one use cdrecord to verify an ISO file?03:02
LjLcdrecord to verify an iso...?03:02
LjLi use md5sum to verify an iso03:02
ErtainOr rather, how would I know that the ISO file will burn?03:02
LjLErtain: well, you can loop-mount it i suppose. if it mounts, i think it should burn too03:03
LjL!iso03:03
ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows03:03
ErtainThat's the problem: it won't mount.03:03
LjLif it doesn't mount, it's most probably broken.03:04
ErtainAnd that's the problem I keep finding.03:04
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LjLwhat kind of ISO is that? is it a publicly available ISO?03:05
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wezlohey gang, I'm having a weird problem with my wireless interface, it keeps changing it's number from eth1 to eth2 randomly...03:06
wezlo...on boot that is03:06
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LjLwezlo: perhaps it's got a dynamic MAC address03:06
ErtainNo, I convert an NRG file to an ISO file.  I need to make sure that it will burn, so I try to mount it.  But it won't mount.03:06
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wezloLjL, I don't think so - it only started doing this in dapper and my router is filtered to specific mac addresses so if it changed I'd keep getting dropped03:08
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LjLwezlo: hm, well... still, the best advice i can give is a "man iftab". even if it's not a problem with MAC changing, there's probably a way in iftab to fix that card to a network interface identifier03:09
wezloLjL, thanks I'll check that out03:09
TheHighChildh3sp4wn: Is it possible to purge everything 386? When I try some packages, it just installs a new candidate03:09
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wezloLjL, it wouldn't be a problem except that vmware can't get to the network when it's on the wrong interface03:10
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lutty711Question:: How do I get the configure script for dvdstyler to find wxSVG?? I know svg.h is in /usr/include, but dvdstyler says its not present....thanks03:10
LjLwezlo: perhaps "businfo". mind you, i'm looking at that for the first time myself... but i suppose that if you could "teach" iftab how exactly to reach that card, it should stop getting confused about it03:10
wezloLjL thanks, I'm wondering if there's a residual config from breezy that's screwing it up03:11
LjLwezlo: perhaps check out also "apt-cache show ifrename"03:11
bianconeri@LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17295 ....this is the output after the update...still getting an error03:11
wezloLjL, many thanks - let me run those commands and see what I come up with03:11
h3sp4wnTheHighChild: Try sudo aptitude purge ~nimage~n386 (check its not going to remove anything stupid first)03:12
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h3sp4wnTheHighChild: Try sudo aptitude purge ~nimage~n386 (check its not going to remove anything stupid first) and sudo aptitude purge ~nrestricted~n38603:13
LjLbianconeri: does "apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.15-25-386 | grep Installed" show up anything?03:13
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DaSkreechhttp://bash.org/?36880803:13
TheHighChildh3sp4wn: Got it. Thanks again for all your help. Gonna reboot and make sure things are cool.03:13
DaSkreechMan I hate this site. I never get anythign done03:13
wezloLjL, ok that's just weird03:14
wezloLjL, if I upgrade to the dapper version of ifrename I have to uninstall virtually the entire desktop installation03:14
bianconeri Installed: 2.6.15-25.4303:14
h3sp4wnTheHighChild: Look at /boot/grub/menu.lst (check there are no 386 kernels left)03:14
wezloLjL, including - ubuntu-base....??03:15
h3sp4wnwezlo: There is a way of binding specific interface names to mac addresses03:15
LjLbianconeri: ok, then reboot and run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" again. i think it should work then.03:15
jerrythere's a lot of very warm air coming out of the back of my computer. Is that normal?03:16
LjLwezlo: hm that's probably because it conflicts with the "wireless-tools" package, apparently03:16
wezloLjL, oh man it took forever to upgrade the first time...03:16
bianconeriok brb03:16
TheHighChildh3sp4wn: nothing shows when I cat it out. But when i type 'sudo aptitude search linux-image' it still shows me all of the same packages. Normal?03:16
LjLwezlo: so forget about that and see what h3sp4wn has to say about binding names to interfaces. i'm reading ifconfig man page now for information about aliases..03:17
wezloh3sp4wn, what's the easiest way to bind mac addresses to interface names?03:17
wezloLjL, thanks for the help03:17
h3sp4wnTheHighChild: Look at the right hand side p means not installed i means installed03:17
TheHighChildh3sp4wn: what about c ?03:18
h3sp4wnTheHighChild: config is still there03:18
TheHighChildok, thanks man, you pwn03:18
h3sp4wnTheHighChild: run purge on them and it will change to p03:18
h3sp4wnwezlo: I am trying to remember it is a file in /etc/ with a really easy syntax I just can't remember what it is called03:19
LjLh3sp4wn: aren't you just thinking about /etc/iftab again?03:19
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wezloLjL, yah, that's it..03:20
wezloguys, thanks - that's REALLY easy03:20
LjLthat's the file that "man iftab" is about.03:20
LjLbut it should keep consistent names for interfaces automatically, unless the MAC is changing03:21
wezloLjL, was just about to run that command03:21
wezlothanks!03:21
h3sp4wnLjL: Does that not work in dapper ?03:21
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LjLh3sp4wn: well, i couldn't swear that that file isn't overwritten automatically at each boot... but in any case, it remains to be seen why his network card isn't assigned a consistent name *by default*03:22
h3sp4wnLjL: I used it in breezy once and it worked fine03:22
LjLh3sp4wn: in theory, /etc/iftab should be set up automatically by Ubuntu so that it lists the MAC of your interfaces and the respective names they've been given03:22
wezloLjL, there was a file somewhere that renamed it from wlan0 to eth* where * is the lowest available interface03:22
wezloI'm not sure why it was doing this in breezy, but it was...03:23
LjLmy iftab says   eth0 mac 00:30:ab:0b:f8:08 arp 1     , and i certainly didn't write this manually03:23
RawSewagewhy do you prononounce GNOME as  Guh Nome03:23
RawSewagethats stupid03:23
h3sp4wnMy /etc/iftab is empty03:23
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CheeseBurgerManRawSewage: That's how it's supposed to be pronounced. :P03:23
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RawSewageI know03:23
RawSewageits still stupid03:23
LjLRawSewage: is that important?03:23
RawSewageas important as anything03:24
wezlomore importantly, RawSewage, why complain about gnome pronounciation in the kubuntu channel?03:24
RawSewageI dont now03:24
RawSewagePlease forgive me03:24
bianconeriLjL: I am back...restarted and ran apt-get dist-upgrade...and got this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1729803:25
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LjLbianconeri: bah... try "sudo apt-get --reinstall install vmware-player vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-25"03:26
TheHighChildWhat happens if you install 32 bit kubuntu on an amd64 with a 686 kernel?03:26
RawSewageit will work03:26
LjLbianconeri: failing that, try running "/usr/bin/vmware-config.pl" as it suggests03:26
OODyea im runnign that setup now03:26
TheHighChildWill it perform any better? Just curious, in aptitude it says its for the Pentium line03:27
CheeseBurgerManRawSewage: Because it's GNU Network Object Model Environment, and GNU (from what I've heard) is pronounced Guh-Noo03:27
TheHighChildOOD: I am running it at home, just wondering if it's a performance hit03:27
RawSewageCheeseBurgerMan, ok ty03:27
CheeseBurgerManAt least, that's my guess. :)03:27
RawSewagesounds right03:27
h3sp4wnTheHighChild: You want the k7 or if you are brave You can try a 64 bit kernel with a 32 bit userland03:28
TheHighChildh3sp4wn: oh? That sounds interesting. I did a 64 bit install before but the desktop apps were way too sluggish (2-3 minutes to open oowriter)03:29
LjLi'm not sure this is something one should be terribly worried about at any rate. i mean, i don't think the difefrence in speed between running 386, 686 or K7 are really that important03:29
OODh3sp4wn: how would i get the 64-bit kernel on 32-bit kununtu>03:29
TheHighChildh3sp4wn: and no, I'm not brave, just stupid sometimes03:29
h3sp4wnOOD/TheHighChild: Build one yourself03:30
CheeseBurgerManTheHighChild: Really? Mind didn't take that long. Probably only ~30 seconds.03:30
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wezlothanks gang, I gotta run...03:30
TheHighChildCheeseBurgerMan: Sometimes up to 5 minutes, if at all.03:30
CheeseBurgerManWow, that's very slow.03:30
OODh3sp4wn: damm, though there was an easy way out :P, maybe some day03:30
TheHighChildCheeseBurgerMan: I know. Thought the KDE packages were slow but I lived. I hadnled the two differnet broswers for java/flash, etc but I couldn't handle not being able to use Open Office. It'd have been faster to do a wine install of MSOffice03:31
bianconeri@ LjL...didnt work and the file /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl (the one it suggest) Doesnt exist...BUT vmware-config-network.pl does03:31
DaSkreechTheHighChild: Mexican President?03:32
CheeseBurgerManTheHighChild: You totally had something wrong there, it shouldn't be like that. (and you should've used KOffice :P)03:32
TheHighChildDaSkreech: Any Presidente03:32
DaSkreechHe less than a 1% chance there :)03:32
TheHighChildCheeseBurgerMan: No, never used koffice, is it good?03:32
DaSkreechs/He/He has/03:32
TheHighChildGood03:32
CheeseBurgerManTheHighChild: Yes. :-)03:32
TheHighChildCheeseBurgerMan: Will check it out. Does it handle .doc files?03:33
CheeseBurgerManI personally use it over OOo03:33
CheeseBurgerManNow that's where it kinda lacks...which is why I still have OOo03:33
RawSewageit probably loads faster than OOo03:33
TheHighChildI just use OO because I started about 2 years on Windows trying to bring The Man down a peg and stuck with it03:33
TheHighChildlol03:34
CheeseBurgerManRawSewage: Yeah, it uses QT rather than Java. Makes it load a good bit faster.03:34
RawSewagehas OO become the man yet03:34
RawSewageeww  OO uses Java?03:34
CheeseBurgerManDoesn't it?03:34
RawSewageI dont know03:34
TheHighChildI don't think so03:34
RawSewageJava programs are slow and buggy03:35
CheeseBurgerManI thought it used Java. It has a Java option in there.03:35
TheHighChildI dig java apps. They're at least consistent. Mem hogs but I'm a memwhore03:35
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LjLbianconeri: duh.03:37
CheeseBurgerManhttp://user-faq.openoffice.org/faq/ar01s04.html#JAVA03:37
TheHighChildCheeseBurgerMan: http://download.openoffice.org/2.0.2/java.html03:37
Ahmuck! wireless03:37
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:37
LjLbianconeri: anyway, does that mean that it's all working now?03:37
TheHighChildonly for database table fucntionality03:37
CheeseBurgerManTheHighChild: hehe, gmta03:37
TheHighChildgmta?03:38
CheeseBurgerManGreat Minds Think Alike03:38
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RawSewageI need to try out XFCE03:39
RawSewagejust for fun03:39
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RawSewageactually, it might be good on the laptop03:39
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h3sp4wnTheHighChild: make menuconfig ARCH=x86_64 - You need libc6-amd64 I think also if you are using dapper 2.6.16 builds with few problems just select everything as modules "make-kpkg --initrd --revision=custom4 --append-to-version=-v1 binary" - If you want to do it it won't be that hard03:39
johnohey, has anyone got nforce5 working with ubuntu yet?03:39
bianconerino its not:S03:39
johnodang03:40
TheHighChildnice! Thanks h3sp4wn03:40
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Zaireanyone with an HP computer should read this http://news.com.com/2100-7355_3-6090825.html?part=rss&tag=6090825&subj=news03:43
SpAwNhello all...has anyone been able to get the official nvidia driver installed......i know the one from the ubuntu repos is recomended but i was talking to someone in #cedega and was telling him about the problem im having and he said its most likly a driver issue....03:43
OODthe one in the repo is the official driver03:44
Zairearticle link is from digg about HP hacking into customer computers03:44
SpAwNOOD: i know but i think it doesnt do somthing that the official one does03:44
CheeseBurgerManZaire: WTF03:44
SpAwNlike sym links or somthing03:44
OODit's the exact same driver03:44
SpAwNbecause the games doesnt work on it03:44
ZaireI got the article link from digg.com03:45
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OODthen you haven't set it up properly03:45
CheeseBurgerManYeah, I know. I was more WTF-ing HP03:45
SpAwNwell all i know is that the one in the ubuntu repos doesnt work03:45
SpAwNand yes i do have it set up.....03:45
driz!nvidia03:45
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:45
SpAwNi have opengl rendering......03:45
Zaireyea thats what Im thinking I know now Im never getting an HP related product again03:45
OODit's the same driver03:45
SpAwNthen why does it flake out and crash?....03:46
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OODdon't know, but they're the exact same driver03:46
SpAwNits the only thing that keeps coming up when im explaining my problem03:46
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OODill brb03:47
CheeseBurgerManZaire: Supposedly "Customers must give permission for HP to scan their systems. They can specify that certain servers or devices are not included in the scan, if they are concerned that it would cause disruption."03:48
Zairedisruption how about using the info they see for corruption03:48
SpAwNbut i dont see a single article on setting up one from the official site...and when i do set up the official one it compiles and does everything right...it says it succefully installed the driver...i even double check the xorg.conf to make sure the "nvidia" driver is being loaded and then i restart x....and nothing....it gets stuck at the kubuntu loading screen03:49
Zaireif someone asked me if they could hack my computer like that I would tell then to go to H**ll03:49
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CheeseBurgerManZaire: Yeah we'll see if I actually get contacted...03:50
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Zairek one of the packages for the drivers is the nvidia-glx whats the other one?03:53
SpAwNlinux-restricted-modules03:54
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SpAwNits all in the nvidia driver howto03:55
gregHi guys. What would be the easiest way to transfer some mp3 files to my brother who is running windows?03:55
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SpAwNsmb03:55
SpAwNor samba03:55
fiyawerx!flash03:55
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MaxentiusThumb drive03:55
fiyawerxis it hard to get flash and java working with konq?03:56
RawSewageno03:56
MaxentiusFlash worked "out of the box" for me in Konq.03:56
RawSewageit did?03:56
RawSewageI dont think so03:56
MaxentiusI went to macromedia, and I had a flash animation.03:56
fiyawerx?03:56
fiyawerxwith kubuntu/03:56
MaxentiusHmmm. Maybe I installed it via firefox forst.03:57
fiyawerxdid you run easy-ubuntu or automatix?03:57
fiyawerxi tried both and neither worked fulyl right for me, so gonna try to just do it manually03:57
sysrpnhi03:57
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usp8riotanyone in here use amule?03:57
MaxentiusNo, I used the alternate CD03:57
uuuubsd is it possible to install realplayer in live cd03:58
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sysrpnis there anything i should know before trying to setup a dual boot install from a live 6.06 dvd?03:58
SpAwNsysrpn: install windows 1st03:58
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sysrpni'm on windows now03:58
fiyawerxsysrpn: as long as win is installed first, it works great for me, you can even resize the windows partition with no problem03:58
SpAwNthen u should be cool.....03:58
Zairethere nvidia logo showed and all03:58
uuuubsdyou could use grub, then you don't have to install windows first03:58
sysrpnokay, thanks03:58
uuuubsdwhat about my question03:59
SpAwNuuuubsd: id think so....but not sure03:59
uuuubsdcan i install realplayer after booting to live cd?03:59
SpAwNgive it a try03:59
fiyawerx!flash03:59
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bulltitanhi04:00
usp8riotdoes anyone know if kubuntu has a default firewall?04:00
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bulltitani'm trying to install vmware with no luck because even if i am root i won't copy the files and the installation aborts04:01
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bulltitanwhat can i do04:01
Maxentiususp, it does not. But you can install kmyfirewall to configure one. All ports are closed by default in kubuntu04:01
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bulltitani tryed su but i tells me that the password is wrong (i'm using the same password than with sudo)04:01
usp8rioti ran a firewall test and it didn't find any open ports and i don't think it's running a firewall04:01
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usp8riotok, thanks maxentius04:02
Maxentiususp, as I said, all ports are closed, there are no services running.04:02
Zaireholy crap I have dual monitors lol04:02
usp8riotcould you give me a lamens guide on opening those ports?04:02
hareemis there a compiler for kubuntu04:02
fiyawerxgcc?04:02
bulltitananyone have any idea about my question?04:02
fiyawerxhareem: you may want apt-get install build-essential if you're compling things04:02
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SpAwNbulltitan: use "sudo command"04:02
hareemok thanks04:02
bulltitani did04:03
fiyawerxright, sudo that i mean04:03
SpAwNand enter the USERS pass04:03
sysrpnokay04:03
SpAwNthe one u use to logo  on04:03
Zairehowever my screen is kinda stretched and all wierd04:03
Maxentiususp, install a web server, or an ftp server, and kububntu should have them open. Alternatively, yo ucould set kmyfirewall to allow ports.04:03
Maxentiusbut if there is no service it will show up as closed.04:03
sysrpni'm about to start my second the install; i'm not looking forward to setting up wpa wireless again04:03
bulltitanok let me try and i'll tell you04:03
hareemits not working04:04
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usp8riotok, thanks04:04
hareemfiyawerx your code gives me a message. bad command04:04
tulgaI need "invisible login" to yahoo from kopete. is it possible?04:04
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Zairebrb lol04:05
hareemis there any compiler for kubuntu04:05
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fiyawerxhmm video.google.com uses flash right?04:05
Zairethere we go04:05
bulltitanspawn04:05
bulltitanUnable to copy the source file ./installer/services.sh to the destination file04:05
bulltitan/etc/init.d/vmware.04:05
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fiyawerxi installed flashplugin-nonfree, told konq to scan for new plugins, and it's still not working on video.google04:05
Zaireyay 2 monitors lol04:06
bulltitanand i did the sudo thing04:06
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SpAwNbulltitan: not sure man.....sorry04:06
ubuntuQuem gostaria de teclar ?04:06
Kr4t05fiyawerx, just install firefox. ;P04:06
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bulltitanmaybe i need to use su -  but using that with the same password for sudo tells me wrong password04:06
hareemis there any good compiler for kubuntu04:06
fiyawerxKr4t05: trying to use konq if i can04:06
bulltitani dont get,... am i missing something?04:06
Kr4t05fiyawerx, it's not worth it.04:07
fiyawerxKr4t05: why?04:07
Kr4t05fiyawerx, because Konq is a jack-of-all-trades--master-of-none app.04:07
fiyawerxah04:07
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fiyawerxok so i need firefox and then the mozplugin for firefox?04:08
Kr4t05fir04:08
bulltitandoes the su command uses other password or what?04:08
eXCeSShttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20981604:08
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Kr4t05fiyawerx, might not need the mozplugin, I can't be sure, because I used Automatix.04:08
SpAwNbulltitan: ive been using kubuntu for less then a week...but from ive read04:08
RawSewagewrong04:08
RawSewageKonqueror is an excellent browser04:08
SpAwNit auto gens a random password for root04:09
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Kr4t05RawSewage, I didn't say it wasn't.04:09
SpAwNu DONT use root in kubuntu04:09
bulltitana password a don't know :(04:09
uuuubsdkonqueror is not that good04:09
fiyawerxRawSewage: any luck getting flash in konq? mine doesn't seem to work04:09
bulltitanhow can i get it?04:09
Kr4t05RawSewage, I just said that Firefox is better.04:09
RawSewageI dont know04:09
RawSewageonly if you install plugins04:10
RawSewagefor example, in Konqueror, I can make any kind of shortcuts I want04:10
SpAwNbulltitan: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=553.0 if u realy want to04:10
RawSewageI can type  ts  blah.zip  in the address bar, and it searches TorrentSpy for blah.zip04:10
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RawSewageFF probably has a plugin that lets you do that though04:11
Kr4t05RawSewage, if Microsoft and Adobe didn't hold all of the cards, (K/X/Ed)Ubuntu would work out of the box.04:11
RawSewage!flash04:11
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:11
RawSewagefiyawerx, check out those links04:11
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fiyawerxi did, doesn't seem to be working after following those instrus04:12
RawSewagewhats not working04:12
fiyawerxlike in firefox i just get a black box on google video04:12
Kr4t05!easyubuntu04:12
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.04:12
fiyawerxin konq even after rescanning plugins i don't get anything for google video, im pretty positive thats flash04:12
usp8riotok, i'm downloading smoothwall and it offers just iso's. why iso's?04:12
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RawSewageI also made it so I type   u whatever   in the addres bar, and it searches Ubuntu Forums for whatever04:13
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Kr4t05RawSewage, Wonderfull.04:13
RawSewagefiyawerx, maybe check out this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537&highlight=firefox+flash04:13
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fiyawerxRawSewage: think thats for amd6404:14
RawSewageoh, sorry04:14
SpAwNdo i need to have  nvidia-kernel-common installed?04:15
RawSewageI dont know then04:15
SpAwNor cna i remove it....04:15
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billykan...04:16
SpAwNbrb04:16
billykan...04:16
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sysrplhi, i'm back now under the live dvd04:18
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gangeshello04:18
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sysrpli just noticed when changing my laptop's boot order that it suppoerts bottable removable storage like usb thumb drives04:19
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gangesi have a really shitty machine that runs windows me right now and it doesn't boot from the cd at boot and i want to repartition it so that i have enuogh swap space for kubuntu to boot and/or have enough swap space for kubuntu to boot and install kubuntu, what would be the best way to do this?04:19
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gangesi downloaded smart boot manager and ran the floppy with a sysresccd livecd but i get a 0xAA error04:19
sysrplis it worth it to make a unbuntu/kubuntu usb thumb drive?04:20
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hareemany one know how to install chillispot on kubuntu04:20
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hareemcan any one please tell me how to install chiilispot onto kubuntu04:22
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Kr4t05hareem, search the repos?04:22
h3sp4wnhareem: What type of wireless card do you have ?04:22
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fiyawerxok, installed flash from macromedia, now i have sound and no video, argh hehe04:22
oomph_7try apt-cache search chilispot04:22
hareemi dont have a wif card on my linux machine04:22
h3sp4wnIs chillispot not a wireless hotspot thing ?04:23
fiyawerxcorrection, in konq, i have audo and no video, in firefox, i have video and no audio, hmm, maybe i can run both at the same time04:23
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sysrpli'm on a live dvd right now .. would i have to restart to change the video driver?04:23
gangesanyone know how best to fix my problem?04:24
VHockey87sysrpl: you should be able to just restart X04:24
sysrplhow do you do that from a live dvd?04:24
VHockey87sysrpl: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace I think will do it04:24
gangesi am not sure if i mentioned it but i have a kubuntu live cd ordered from shipit and it works fine with the smart boot manager04:25
VHockey87or you could alt+ctrl+F2 and login from console, kill X, and then run startx04:25
gangesbut with the sysresccd that i burned myself, smart boot manager does not work04:25
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gangeser.. it works, but gives me a 0xAA error04:25
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h3sp4wnhareem: How can you run a Wireless LAN HotSpot controller without a wireless lan card ?04:26
Wayne_cCan I ask questions about Samba in here?04:27
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[GuS] shoot Wayne_c04:28
SpAwNbah!!!!!!!!! i wish this driver would jus work04:28
VHockey87Wayne_c: can't hurt04:28
SpAwN*just04:28
OODSpAwN: how does it not work? you have opengl?04:28
gangeshello?04:28
Wayne_cthanks, basically i just want to know if its possible to set samba up so that some users can access some directories and others cant?04:28
gangescan anyone hear me or are tor users banned from speaking?04:28
hareemcause04:29
hareemthe04:29
hareemap takes dhcp from chillispot pc04:29
SpAwNOOD: no....the driver is NOT working right04:29
OODSpAwNL i asked -how-04:29
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SpAwNit makes a: my games not work b: has crashed my puter 2 times04:30
SpAwNit crashe dmy computer after installing it and restrting x...it locked up at the kubuntu screen.....my whole keyboad became non responsive04:30
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OODcan you run glxgears?04:31
SpAwNctrl alt f1 did nothing....04:31
SpAwNi can now...yes i had resolved that...but the games still arnt working...i just want to install the OFFICAL drivers04:31
OODSpAwN: these are THE OFFICIAL drivers04:32
SpAwNi know that there the same and alll...but all i know is that the ones in the repos arnt doing what the offical one did for me on mandriva04:32
OODif you want i can explain how they are04:32
ZaireSpAwN: do you have more then one ram chip running on diff frequency?04:32
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SpAwNZaire: no same exact ram sticks04:32
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VHockey87Wayne_c: install samba with apt-get (or the adept package manager). Then you can goto K-menu --> System Settings. There's an option called "sharing". From here you can configure shared directories.04:32
Zaireodd dunno then04:32
fiyawerxok, i have flash working in firefox now, woohoo, needed alsa-oss installed, but i still dont get any video in video.google in konqueror04:33
fiyawerxi get sound fine, which seems to be everyones problem, im backwards04:33
OMGLAZERSHey can anyone tell me how I might be able to resize a partition with a kubuntu utility?04:33
SpAwNOOD: k can we drop the hows its offical.......i know it is...can u help me get the offical ones installec?04:33
hareemany one know how to install chillispot on kubuntu04:33
gangescan someone please help me?04:33
OODSpAwn: ...04:33
fiyawerxOMGLAZERS: i believe qtparted can do it04:33
SpAwN*installed04:33
OMGLAZERSfiyawerx: Thanks04:33
fiyawerxOMGLAZERS: thats what the live cd uses, altho it isn't installed by default when you install for some reason04:34
VHockey87Wayne_c: If you want to define samba users (something the user connecting to the server will have to type in), use the "smbpasswd" function from the command line. 'smbpasswd myUserName' will create a username and prompt you for the password04:34
OMGLAZERSfiyawerx: Yea I saw it I just couldnt remember the name :P04:34
fiyawerxOMGLAZERS: PEWPEWPEW04:34
OODSpAwN: here's a script of a secodn way of installing the nvidia driver, it automates you downloading the driver from the nvidia site and compiling it as a module04:34
Wayne_cVHockey87: Thank you I'll try that04:34
OODhttp://www.albertomilone.eu/europeo/nvidia_scripts1.html04:34
SpAwNOOD: thank you...i will try that..... =D04:35
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OODif this works then great, i ended up screwing my nvidia driver a few times with it04:35
kankokare04:35
SpAwNi just dont understand why i cant just installl the official driver04:35
hareemdoes any one know how to install chillispot04:36
OODi cant undestand why You cant undestand that theyre both the same and just as official XD04:36
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uuuubsdi just can't understand why can't you use windows04:36
OMGLAZERSfiyawerx: how do I install qtparted? I cant seem to find it. Also, OMG LAZERS!?04:36
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SpAwNOOD: i do but huonestly the run NOTHING like they did on mandriva04:37
Cntryboyto install flash in konqueror would it be close to http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash04:37
Cntryboyinstructions there on that link04:37
OODthat has nothing to do with where you get the driver.. it's a different distro04:37
clbeams! wireless04:37
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:37
OMGLAZERSnevermind04:37
OMGLAZERSI found it04:37
SpAwNthe colors,performance, and mostly that they made my games WORK04:37
OODSpAwN: mandriva is a very different distro04:38
Cntryboyanyone?04:38
SpAwNOOD: i am aware04:38
actinichareem - http://www.chillispot.org/FAQ.html#mozTocId65037904:38
actinicit might work04:38
OODthen the problem you're having is probably kubuntu specific, not where you get the driver from04:38
Cntryboyanyone know a site to install flash for konquer.04:38
Cntryboyplease help04:38
Cntryboyneed it fast04:38
Snake!flash04:38
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:38
SnakeCntryboy: ^^04:39
SpAwNOOD: i looked into that also....i have popular hardware....and havent seen any issues with kubuntu and the games that dont work04:39
actinicthat should be fast enough :)04:39
kankokac00l!04:39
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kankokax'D04:39
Cntryboysnake, which link should I choose?04:39
fiyawerxhm, can't find anything about having sound but no video in konqueror / flash04:39
Cntryboyim on 2.1KB dialup04:39
oomphhow can i associate a desktop item with an icon?04:39
SpAwNive checked forums and googled...and didnt see any articles that would indicate further that its the os's fault04:39
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Cntryboysnake?04:40
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SnakeCntryboy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats04:41
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Ash-Fox!bluetooth04:41
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup04:41
Cntryboyok04:41
OODSpAwN: what indicates that it's where you get the driver form that's at fault?04:42
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actinicoomph: right click on item > properties > general tab > click on the icon that looks like a wrench ...04:43
SpAwNthe ppl in #cedega and the fact that it crashed my system 2 times04:43
Cntryboyeh that page is complicated and doesn't look familar to me as what ive done b4 snake04:43
Cntryboyim going to install flash like ti says then try to tell konq how to find it brb04:43
SpAwNthe ppl in #cedega said its most likely a driver issue04:43
Cntryboyinstall it like adobe site says then try to tell konq to find it rather04:43
actinicoomph: then click on the next icon04:43
SnakeCntryboy: it says right there.04:43
SnakeCntryboy: for a direct link, see here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b04:44
Cntryboysnake: yah but that isn't what I had to do on ubuntu04:44
SnakeCntryboy: Its the same on ubuntu and it is on kubuntu04:44
Snakeas it is*04:44
Cntryboyi untared it, then went to the dir and typed ./flashplayer-installer04:44
Cntryboythen told firefox to find it can't I do that with konq?04:44
SnakeCntryboy: you intalled it off the website, go ahead and do it that way if you want to, but thats the harder way. Also, notice below it says: Note to Kubuntu Users: Konqueror does not auto-detect Flash. There are a few steps you must take:04:45
OODSpAwN: so you gonna gieve that script a try?04:45
Cntryboysnake: can I go ahead and install it like the website says, then do the steps extra for konq04:46
Cntryboyive already installed it04:46
Cntryboythats why i asked04:46
SnakeCntryboy: Probly04:46
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jerryhi04:46
jerryI have a question04:46
Snake!ask04:46
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:46
Snake:)04:46
jerryWhere can I buy games for linux like Diablo204:46
jerryActually I want to buy Diablo2 for ubuntu04:47
uuuubsdfrom blizzard04:47
OODyou can't, but you can run windows version in wine04:47
Snakejerry: Theres very very few linux games, and diablo 2 was never built for linu04:47
Snakex04:47
jerryIs there a version for ubuntu?04:47
jerryoh ok04:47
SnakeNot of diablo 204:47
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jerryum04:47
jerrydarn04:47
OODno, but you can run the windows version in wine perfectly04:47
empirichai i need to install raid controller on kubuntu04:47
Snakejerry: but you can try to run it in wine04:47
OOD!Wine04:47
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:47
Snakejerry: see above ^04:47
jerrywine crashed04:47
uuuubsdnope, but there is mephisto 3 for fedora04:47
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jerryis there any good games like diablo2 for linux?04:48
empirici have raid controller driver on floopy i want to add this driver during install so thatkubuntu picks my raid conroller04:48
uuuubsddo you play mephisto?04:48
OODi just played diablo 2 in wine today04:48
OODit works perfectlt04:48
VHockey87if you're serious about getting windows games to run in linux, look into transgaming04:48
SnakeUT04, Uplink, Doom3, Quake4 off the top of my head04:48
jerryhow about farcry?04:48
empiricbut i am unbale to access floppy durng kubuntu install start04:48
uuuubsdi played age of empire 2 in linux today04:48
Snakejerry: theres really not many games for linux unfortantly :(04:48
Snakejerry: some games play with cedega04:48
Snake!cedega04:48
ubotucedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega04:48
jerryok04:49
fiyawerx_can anyone with flash working try video.google.com in konqueror and see if they can see/hear a video?04:49
jerryum04:49
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Snakefiyawerx_: never worked for me04:49
fiyawerx_Snake: i have audio, just no video04:49
actinicjerry: native ported games ... http://www.liflg.org/?catid=604:49
jerryI can't hear anything04:49
actinicsome are free04:49
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Snakefiyawerx_: arnt u lucky :P never worked at all for me :)04:49
VHockey87flash sounded worked for me in gentoo, haven't tried it in kubuntu yet04:49
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Snakegentooooooooooo04:50
fiyawerx_Snake: i did the install from macromedia, and had to install alsa-oss, but after that firefox works 100% with it04:50
fiyawerx_gonna reboot, maybe that'll help04:50
OODyea firefox works perfectly with flash04:50
jerrydo I need to install windows xp on top of wine for it to work?04:50
OODthat is if you call flash7 perfect :(04:50
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Snakejerry: no04:50
VHockey87jerry: no - I don't think that's even possible04:50
OODit's not04:50
OODwine is a linux program that lets you run windows programs04:51
jerryhow does it play windows games?04:51
SnakeEmulation04:51
OODit's not emulation04:51
SnakeIts not?04:51
OODno04:51
SpAwNOOD: yea i think so....but it says somthing about wireless...and i use wireless so04:51
actinicit's magic04:51
Snakeactinic: +104:51
uuuubsdit's a hack04:51
OODit allows native execution of the code, that's not emulation04:51
actinicka ching04:51
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fiyawerxok, i take that back04:52
SnakeNo luck?04:52
fiyawerxit was loading, i just had to resize my konq window for some reason to see the video04:52
SnakeHeh weird04:52
fiyawerxlike i could see where it should be, it just didnt _show_ until i resized at all04:52
uuuubsdwine is to satisfy the need of using windows of linux users who can't face the fact that they have to use windows04:52
fiyawerxso all i had to do then was install it from macromedia.com and apt-get install alsa-oss04:52
Snakelol04:52
OODhttp://www.winehq.org/ <-- info on what wine is04:52
actinicisn't wine an acronym for wine isn't a windows emulator?04:53
OODyea04:53
SnakeYea04:53
SnakeHehe04:53
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Snake[away] Food time!04:53
actinicfood fight!04:53
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fiyawerx"Wine Is Not an Emulator"04:54
OODyea, that's it04:54
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fiyawerx!java04:55
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository04:55
uuuubsdwine is a hack04:55
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Gonzoany reason why xmms could play wma fine in ubuntu but now freeze in kubuntu?04:57
matt___who here is using ubuntu dapper 6.06 and was able to install win32 codecs for their media players, if you managed to install those, how would I go about doing it?04:57
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Gonzoi installed a win32 codec pack with wine... no idea if it affected my media player04:58
Gonzomaybe that why xmmms is freezing04:58
uuuubsdnewbie, that depends what software is using win32 codec, wine doesn't because wine is not media player04:58
matt___hmmm interesting04:58
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OODmatt_: download the win32 codecs from here: http://www2.mplayerhq.hu/design7/codecs.html04:58
Gonzono i mean... i installed the codec pack with wine04:59
Gonzoi needed it for some other win32 application04:59
matt___OOD: ok, and that will make them available to VLC player, Kaffeine, etc?04:59
actinicmatt__: i used automatix.04:59
matt___automatix?05:00
OODyes05:00
matt___OOD: thankyou05:00
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Snake[away] ack automatix05:00
Snake[away] >.<05:00
actinicautomatix: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203294&highlight=kubuntu05:00
Snake[away] Why is everyone so bent on that program from hell05:00
actinichowever some people like to do it the hard way05:01
Snake[away] !easyubuntu05:01
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.05:01
Snake[away] FTW.05:01
Gonzobrb ?05:01
OODhard way? you just download the codecs and copy them, hardly hard XD05:01
Snake[away] OOD: z0mg 2 lines of code!!! difficult!!05:01
matt___I have another total newb question, what exactly is an "installation candidate" as used with apt-get?05:01
actinictell that to matt05:02
OODi can, sure05:02
actinicmatt_: sounds like a program not ready for prime time.05:04
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SpAwNwell i may have found a fix05:05
SpAwNbrb05:05
matt___here is an error output for what I mean reguarding installation candidates:05:06
matt___sudo apt-get install w32codecs05:06
matt___Reading package lists... Done05:06
matt___Building dependency tree... Done05:06
matt___Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:06
matt___This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:06
matt___is only available from another source05:06
matt___E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate05:06
matt___so, my question would be what is an installation candidate?05:06
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Hobbseematt___: please dont paste in here.05:07
OOD!pastebin05:07
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:07
matt___sorry05:07
Hobbsee!w32codecs05:07
ubotuw32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html05:07
matt___well, sorry about the pasting, but what exactly are installation candidates?05:07
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Daweiare there any movie editors (join, split, extract, etc.) for wmv, mpeg, etc for (k)ubuntu?05:08
OODdiva is in the works and look promising: http://diva-project.org/wiki05:09
Zaireonce glx is setup then nvidia drivers enabled I should be able to run Unreal tourny 2004 right?05:10
OODyes05:10
Zairecool05:10
OODmatt_: that's not an actual package that's why you get that error05:10
Zaireoh yea doesn't BF2 have a linux installer?05:11
actinici'm running UT2K4 .... smoooooooooth as silk05:11
OODno i don't think so05:11
ZaireI kick in UT at lans lol05:11
OODcedega runs it though05:11
matt___ah, thankyou, I had previously been using another distro, and it never used the phrase "installation candidate" in its error output05:11
matt___thankyou05:11
meltdownDoes anyone have any suggestions to setting up Sound? I have a VIA sound card, and they provide their own Linux drivers, which I've installed, but they don't do anything. I just have no sound at all (no error messages either, so I don't know where to start)05:11
Zairehmmm gonna have to get cedega then05:11
actinici ... uh ... suck at ut :)05:11
Zairethe games I play at lans are BF2 UT2k4 and halflife counterstike 1.605:12
OODmatt_: i think it says that because it's a packag pointer, and the actual paclages it points to don't exist or something like that05:12
actinicmeltdown, let's start with your motherboard05:12
Zaireman maps at lans are so crowded I was getting 8 kils in like 2 - 3 shots lol05:13
meltdownactinic: VIA VN80005:13
actinicZaire ... have you downloaded the community bonus packs for UT2K4?05:13
meltdownhttp://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/Q106/MagicLC/1008831sp2.shtml - It's a brand new machine05:13
Zairenopes not yet05:13
actinicmeltdown ... onboard lan?05:13
meltdownyes05:13
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meltdownNetworking all works fine05:13
meltdownboth wired and wireless05:14
actinicmeltdown, have u confirmed sound works in >cough> windows05:14
meltdownyes05:14
meltdownbut we don't mention that here05:14
actinichave u run the liveCD to try to get sound05:14
actiniclol05:14
meltdownDoesn't work on Kubuntu Live either (Havn't tried Knoppix)05:14
actinichave u fooled with kmix?05:15
OODmeltdown: does linux actually detect a sound card?05:15
OODyea try fooling with kmix, and alsamixergui (you can install that package_05:15
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actinicZaire, get those comm bonus packs ... you'll love the maps!05:15
meltdownyes - I can see all the sound card info in lspci05:16
SpAwNword i got the OFFICIAL driver installed05:16
actinicstart pressing kmix buttons05:16
Zairecool will look into it lol05:16
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meltdownactinic: done that :/05:16
OODSpAwN: too bad you still don't understand they're both as official <_<05:16
DaSkreechCan I use dpkg and check if installing a .deb would break the system?05:16
actinicZaire ... go to loki installers for those maps05:16
actinicor google05:16
SpAwNlol OOD IDO UNDERSTAND05:17
actinicmeltdown:  do u see volume icon in the tray?05:17
Zaireone thing IVe never been able to get UT to connect to servers in linux05:17
SpAwNbut the ones from the repo made my systme freeze up and broke my games...so.....05:17
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meltdownOk, installing Alsamixergui05:17
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SpAwNthere are just MY experiences..............so05:17
OODso you got it all worked out?05:18
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meltdownI didn't, no05:18
meltdownstill no sound05:18
SpAwNiam about to go and see OOD05:18
OODsorry was talking to spawn05:18
actinicZaire, that's odd.  Shouldn't make any diff05:18
SpAwNwill let u know how it works out05:18
Zaireyea dunno why but it just sat there saying sonnecting05:18
actinicmeltdown: here's a reference source ... http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Hardware/Basic_sound_card_hardware_debuging05:18
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Zaireconnecting*05:18
meltdownactinic: Thanks, I'll take a look through there05:19
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Zaireok UT runs but I get no sound05:20
Zaireand it said it couldn't connect to the UT network05:21
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OODyou patch the game up?05:21
Zairenopes but still no sound wth05:21
sotiredhello all05:21
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OODhey05:21
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Frederickfolks is there any command to clean useless packages?05:21
h3sp4wn_deborphan05:22
sotiredwell..it's been one week and a half no windows kubuntu cold turkey05:22
sysrplwhat files does the "Display -System Settings" change so i cna back them up?05:22
sotiredand im not looking back.05:22
sotired:)05:22
OODneither am i :D05:22
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sysrpl"Display - System Settings" applet i meant05:22
Frederickh3sp4wn_, how do I use it?05:22
sotiredive played around with linux everyonce in a while...but this time im switched for good05:22
sysrpli am assuming /etc/X11/xorg.conf but want to be sure05:23
OODsysrpl: yes it's the xorg.conf05:23
sysrplincase the applet changes i make screw X up05:23
sysrplthat's the only file it will change?05:23
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OODyea05:23
sysrplty05:23
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matt___lets say I have gnome and kde installed on my ubuntu box, how do I switch between them?05:24
h3sp4wn_Frederick: just run it and it will give you a list of things it thinks is un needed05:24
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=== Zaire scratch head wondering how you use linux UT patch :S
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OODZaire: http://www.gamershell.com/download_11755.shtml05:25
sysrplmy video hadware is the IGP Intel 915GM,GMS,910 GMLwith a resolution of 1280X800 ... at least under windows05:25
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=== Zaire OOD downloading patch Zaire is know not how to use it does he lol
sysrplbut kubuntu/kde wont let me change to my lcd's native resolution ... what settings should i change?05:26
sysrplthe driver or the monitor (from pug and play to i don't know what) or both?05:26
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=== Zaire jack @zz I am lol
OODZaire: you just extract it and copy it to the ut folder05:27
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=== Zaire Enjoy dual monitors now do I lol
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Zaireso what would cause the audio to not work anywa?05:31
Zaireit using open asl05:31
Daweimeltdown I had a problem when I updated.... absolutely no sound. Finally, after all the wise advice and fooling around for 2 hours I thought "Maybe the sound volume got turned off?" And I was right. I went into the mixer area and I saw that PC Speaker in Output was not selected. For some reason... but I don't need to go into that, do I?05:31
OODZaire: don't know05:32
ZaireI have to have sound or I can't play it05:32
OODdid you patch it?05:32
[GuS] hi guys... i've build tcl8.5/tk8.5  (and dev) packages for Kubuntu dapper... if someone needs.05:32
Zairenot yet but why would it need that for the sound05:32
[GuS] in this days i will upload to REVU.05:33
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OODcould be a bug05:33
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Zairepatch is 72% done downloading05:33
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sysrplwhat dir is sources.list in?05:33
osiris /etc/apt05:33
osirissysrpl, ^05:34
sysrplty05:34
osirisyep05:34
Zairedamn I need faster internet lol05:34
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OOD:P05:35
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osirisouch05:35
osirisyou mean not everyone here is sitting on an OC3 ?05:35
Zaireyea I have a friend running 5 meg down and 1 meg up which is my next step lol05:35
sysrplwhat is the best sources.list to use?05:36
Hobbsee!repos05:36
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:36
Zaireyay patch is done05:37
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SpAwNOOD: the OFFCIAL driver fixed : the color problem and 2 games.....on game still isnt working...but hey....i fixed 3 things...not to bad05:37
OODSpAwN: still with that official thing? :P05:38
sysrpli just installed 915resolution in an attempt to get my native lcd resolution working05:38
sysrplhas anyone used that package?05:38
SpAwNOOD: yes =D ...it fixed a couple things for me soit was worht the time/trouble in my book...now i just gotta fix this lastgame05:39
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Zairecrap I copied and pasted the file folders from the UT update into the UT folder and now it won't even run05:39
DaSkreech!easysource05:39
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:39
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SpAwNOOD: and it boosted my fps with glxgears from 13000 to over 1410005:43
actinicwhat vid card?05:45
actinici'm pulling 8300 on a 6600GT05:45
SpAwNgeforce 7800 GT OC made by bftech05:45
actinicthat makes sense05:45
SpAwN*bfg05:45
SpAwNhttp://www.bfgtech.com/7800GT_256_PCIX.html05:45
SpAwNi LOVE the thing05:46
actinici'm pulling almost 12 on an overclocked 7600GT05:46
SpAwNniece05:46
actinicsli?05:46
SpAwNwhat kinda sys specs u have05:46
chavojust minimize the glxgears window, you'll get over 100000 fps05:46
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meltdownI'm back05:46
SpAwNi wish i had two of them...so icould use the sli05:46
meltdown...no success :/05:46
actinicopteron 146 @ 2.8 ghz, 2 gigs corsair xms3200, Abit KN8-Ultra non-SLI05:47
SpAwNp4 3.6 ghz 2 gigs ram 250 hdd...120 external05:47
SpAwNwhats the most ram youve been able to use?05:47
matt___the way the root account is set up seems to be different in ubuntu than most other distros, is that an accurate statement?05:48
SpAwN...i dont think ive used more the 1 gig of ram...lol05:48
actinichaven't tried over 2 gigs05:48
SpAwNmatt___: ver y much yes05:48
actinic:)05:48
actinicterminal doesn't take up much ram, lol05:48
SpAwNu only use cli?05:48
actinicnah, j/k05:48
SpAwNlol05:48
SpAwNwas gonna say...05:48
matt___how would one go about setting up an ubuntu in the traditional root account setup?05:48
=== Zaire still has not sound and now UT doesn't load :(
SpAwNmatt___: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=553.005:49
unix_infidel!root05:49
OODlinux is great on the ram, i only got 512, windows was so sluggish after a game, linux works and works flawlessly :D05:49
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:49
SpAwNOOD: yea but ive heard that...linux will use as much ram as possible...05:49
SpAwNso if u have that little it wont use it as much...05:49
OODSpAwN: that's to avoid hard drive swapping05:49
actinicthe ram came in handy with earlier Firefox memory leaks05:50
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actinicnow I run Opera 905:50
meltdownI'm still having troubles with my sound05:50
SpAwNmeltdown: no soundat all?05:50
unix_infidelthis guy again.....05:50
meltdownNope, none05:50
actinicmeltdown, sorry to hear that man05:50
OODit's much lighter  on the ram then windows, windows swaps with the hard drive like crazy05:50
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meltdownI just booted the unmentionables... and there was sound fine there, and everything -appears- in order here (no errors in syslog or dmesg)... but there's just no soundwaves emitting from my speakers...05:51
SpAwNmeltdown: please tell u have a ac'97 card...i can help ya then05:51
meltdownSpAwN: Yes, I do05:51
SpAwNgreat05:51
SpAwNone sec05:51
actinichere's more references: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=sound&titlesearch=Titles05:51
matt___so basically, in ubuntu, the user account created during the installation of ubuntu has administrative privledges?05:51
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SpAwNmatt___: yes05:51
actinicthat's correct05:52
SpAwNu use "sudo command"05:52
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OODthat's only if you provide your passord for action that does need root acces05:52
unix_infidelsort of.05:52
SpAwNmeltdown: one sec...the computer with the directions im gonna give u is booting now...05:53
matt___I do notice that there is a root folder in ubuntu, so does this mean that there is an actual root account on the machine aside from the main account create during the install?05:53
OODyes05:53
meltdownok, thanks05:53
unix_infidelmatt___: the FIRST NORMAL user you create is part of a group.05:53
SpAwNmatt___: yes i do belive the acutal root account a a random gen pass05:53
SpAwN*has05:53
unix_infidelthat user has priviledges through sudo.  which is then given root via sudoers.05:54
unix_infidelso no, the normal user doesnt not have admin...that would be stupid.05:54
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meltdownThis is like... really freaky weird - aplay is reporting no errors in playing, yet I hear noting (and don't worry, It's not muted)05:54
meltdownnothing*05:54
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matt___so, if I wanted to log into the actual root account which I know I wouldn't need to do, I would have to guess its randomly generated password?05:55
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OODmatt_: you can change it, but you won't need it05:55
Zaireactinic: do you actually have sound on your UT cause I can't seem to get mine to work05:55
OODyou can do everything with sudo05:56
matt___I know, I am just trying to understand how this distro works05:56
cycommatt___: couldn't you just sudo -s? and I thought that root wasn't just randomly passworded, it was disabled entirely05:56
SpAwNk meltdown do this05:56
Hobbsee!root05:56
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:56
SpAwNmeltdown: alsamixer to turn everything on exceptexcept External Amplifier05:56
SpAwNhit m to turn it from off to on and vise versa05:57
SpAwN....turn everything up all the way for now05:57
meltdown*blink*05:57
SpAwNmeltdown: do u understand that?05:57
meltdownWell I got a hell of a lot of static when trying to aplay an .mp305:57
meltdownscared the living hell out of me05:57
SpAwNso u have sound05:57
meltdownkinda05:57
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SpAwNwell....05:58
meltdownIt was noise, yes05:58
sysrplhello05:58
OODstatic form the speakers isn't really sound .. lol05:58
SpAwNhmm maby its a diff prob then what i had05:58
meltdown+105:58
SpAwNi had NO sound05:58
SpAwNbut anyways here05:58
SpAwNdo this next05:58
SpAwNamixer set 'Exchange Front/Surround' on && amixer set 'Spread Front to Surround and Center/LFE' on05:58
sysrplwhat is the difference between the directories /etc/rc0.d , rc1.d , rc2.d .... ?05:58
meltdownok - Volume's down05:58
actinicZaire, yes05:58
SpAwNcopy past that whole line and run it05:58
sysrpli am trying to create a startup script before X starts05:59
meltdownEverything is on - I went through and unmuted it all05:59
SpAwNmeltdown: i had no sound and that fixed my problem.....05:59
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meltdown...you know... it may have05:59
meltdownI don't think aplay has access to my .mp3 codec...05:59
=== Zaire says why me :(
meltdownLemme check in Amarok06:00
meltdownI will admit, Static is better than nothing06:00
SpAwNmeltdown: type "!restricted" in here06:00
SpAwNthat will get u goin on getting most files to play06:00
meltdown!restricted06:00
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:00
meltdownyeah, I got all those already ;)06:01
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meltdownI'm not new at Linux, I was just out of ideas...06:01
SpAwNoh hmm...well......that was the only one i had =D06:01
actinicmeltdown, do you have xmms?06:01
SpAwNsorry06:01
oomph_7anyone use streamtuner with di.fm?06:01
sysrplwhat is the deal with the directories /etc/rc0.d , rc1.d , rc2.d ?06:02
meltdownNo @ xmms06:02
actinicok, dl xmms06:02
meltdownHAH!06:02
meltdownThat worked06:02
SpAwNmeltdown: what worked?06:02
meltdownthe amplification thing06:02
meltdown*I HEARS TEH MUSIC*06:02
=== Zaire actinic: did you have any sound issues at all with your or did it just work right off?
meltdownThanks a ton06:02
SpAwNmeltdown: sweet deal huh?06:03
meltdownoh hells yeah06:03
sysrplhow do i make a symoblic link into a script link ... in konqueror it's displaying as an unkown file type06:03
OODyea you have to unmute some channels ot get some stuff going, i just got surround sound working yesterday after thinking it was impossible with ym card06:03
actinic<-- actinic runs to copy down spawn's instructions, lol06:03
SpAwNwelp enjoy the sound06:04
meltdownI feel truely happy inside now06:04
SpAwNlol actinic i copyied them when crimsun gave them to me a few days ago06:04
meltdownOk, I'm gonna go to sleep - It's midnight and I have work tomorrow06:04
meltdownbye06:04
SpAwNpz out meltdown06:04
meltdownand thanks again06:04
SpAwNnp06:04
actinic:)06:05
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actinicZaire, UT sound ran right outta the box06:05
matt___I have one more question about the root account, how common is it to use the default account created during the install for everyday use, and how many of you do that?06:05
OODi never use the root account, it's not needed06:05
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Zaireboard*06:05
matt___OOD: what I mean is, the account created with administrative privledges during install, do you do use that one, or when you say you don't use the root account, that is the one you mean06:06
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OODmatt_: i use the default account that is created during the install for everything06:07
SpAwNmatt___: i use the account i made during install.....which is the one given the priviledges06:07
sysrplhow do i make a symoblic link into a symbolic link to a shell script? ... in my file browser it's displaying as an unkown file type06:07
sysrpli used sudo ln -s /etc/855resolution /etc/rc5.d/S45915resolution to create the link06:07
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OODmatt_: just to clarify, the default account does NOT have root privelages, it gains root privelages with the sudo command06:08
actinicman i love hitting the sack with issues resolved06:08
actinicconversely, i grumble when i can't get somethin to work06:09
lucasim trying to install "sun-java5-bin" with Adept but its stuck at 23% what shall i do??06:09
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sysrplanyone?06:09
SpAwNlucas: hit the button on the side...06:09
SpAwNlucas: its probly asking u for input06:09
matt___OOD: got ya, so in a way it is like any other user account, accept that its password used in sudo will grant root privledges?06:09
lucasSpAwN: yes06:10
lucasSpAwN: it asks me to accept the license agreement06:10
OODmatt_: yes exactly06:10
lucasSpAwN: how do i accept?06:10
crimsunCornellius: you neglected to mention whether the command worked?06:10
SpAwNlucas: if u cant specify the input....stop the install and use clit to install it06:10
Cornelliuscrimsun: Yes, it did06:10
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SpAwNlucas: do this kill that install of it06:11
SpAwNlucas: then use "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin"06:11
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lucasnoo06:11
lucasi wont kill it06:11
SpAwNi had the same exact problem06:11
OODlucas: you have to there's no way out06:12
crimsunCornellius: well, in a nutshell, the crystal driving the codec is skewed, which is a sign of hardware failure. We work around it in alsa by attempting to force the codec to run at a certain rate.06:12
SpAwNi couldnt hit yes to accept the terms06:12
OODlucas: you're gonan have to kill it and redo the installation with apt-get in the terminal06:12
BlueFrogsup. i have a question about installing stuff in ubuntu using aptitude06:12
lucasdam06:12
BlueFrogand i cant find the answer anywhere06:12
OODgo ahead06:12
BlueFrogit keeps asking for the original disc06:12
BlueFrogand the computer no longer has a cd drive06:13
BlueFrogcan i fake the original disc06:13
OODthe repository must be set to the cd drive for some reason06:13
CornelliusBlueFrog: That's because one you your repositories is the CD06:13
BlueFrogi just want to install the basic development pack06:13
BlueFroghow do i change it?06:13
SpAwNBlueFrog: u could probly dl a iso of it and then mount it06:13
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BlueFroghow do i virtually mount a cd iso06:13
Cornelliusgedit /etc/apt/sources.list   uncomment the CD06:14
actinicmount -t iso9660  -o lo <filename> <directory>06:14
BlueFrogcool. thanks. i will try it out06:14
OODBlueFrog: you won't have to mount any iso's to fix this06:14
SpAwNmount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso06:14
BlueFrogwill editing sources.list fix it06:14
OODyes06:14
OODthat's the problem06:14
CornelliusBlueFrog: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   uncomment the CD06:15
BlueFrogamazing. very helpful06:15
CornelliusBlueFrog: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   uncomment the CD06:15
CornelliusForgot the sudo, must be root06:15
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lucasSpAwN: it says dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.06:15
OODyou can do it with sudo06:15
BlueFrogk06:15
SpAwNlucas: do that06:15
OODthat command will work perfectly06:15
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SpAwNlucas: ...i asked the same thing like 5 days ago06:16
OODlucas: run that command06:16
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actinicamazing, 226 logged in06:16
actinicis it usually this active?06:17
CornelliusYeah, Java is a bitch to install under Kubuntu06:17
usp8riotmount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso - so "/mnt/iso" is the filename the iso's in or where we want it to mount?06:17
CornelliusI use apt-get ...06:17
Cornellius*Used06:17
usp8riotjust wondering, i've yet to mount an iso06:17
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SpAwNusp8riot: where u mount it to06:17
satafterhautomatix = eassy java install06:17
usp8riotok, thank06:18
lucasSpAwN: allright its installed06:18
Cornelliussatafterh: Automatix is baf06:18
Cornellius*bad06:18
SpAwNlike mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/cdrom would work too06:18
CornelliusIt can break your system06:18
SpAwNlucas: enjoy it then =D06:18
OODautomatix is still buggy06:18
lucas:)06:18
actinicsatafterh, i got my head chopped off recommending auto ... auto ... can't say it :)06:18
OODit installed everything when i only wanted 1 thing...06:18
CornelliusAutomatix uses ForceYes options that can break your system06:18
satafterhworked great for me, but if its a nono06:19
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CornelliusTry EasyUbuntu instead06:19
SpAwNusp8riot: u can also mount the iso anywhere....but the folder u are mounting to has to already be there06:19
actinic... but only if you HAVEN't used automatix already, right?06:19
BlueFroganybody find a good development IDE for C++ or C for ubuntu?06:20
Cornelliusactinic: Nah, always06:20
HobbseeBlueFrog: kdevelop3?06:20
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BlueFrogthats what i thought.06:20
Cornelliusactinic: Auto... have an echo yes, so even if you say no to some options, auto... do them anyway.06:21
BlueFrogwhats the easiest way to install kdevelop so that it installs the KDE base too?06:21
actinicok06:21
CornelliusBlueFrog: sudo apt/get install Kdev... It will get the libraries for you06:22
BlueFrogk06:22
SpAwNwell i am gonna go play some et pz out06:22
actinicZaire, you still tryin to get sound?06:22
OODlater06:22
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OODZaire: damm that sucks06:23
defryskhmmm a new amarok06:24
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CornelliusZaire: Problem is what ?06:24
OODwhat i did is install the windows version of UT2004, all i'm waiting for is a mouse patch06:24
actinichow is there no author to posts like 'Zaire has bad luck' ??06:24
CornelliusOOD: Cedega ?06:24
OODactinic: use the /me command06:25
OODno, wine06:25
actiniccool06:25
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thompathe spell checking dissapeared from OpenOffice06:26
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OODSnake, just keep your name and be happy :D06:27
actinicreally, i liked snake pliskin.  I heard you were dead, lol06:27
SnakeOOD: :)06:27
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BlueFrogim missing something. sudo apt/get install Kdev didnt work06:29
OODsudo apt-get06:30
OODnot the slash06:30
BlueFrogcouldnt find the package06:30
OODthe package was kdevelop3 wans't it?06:31
BlueFrogdidnt work06:31
BlueFrognor did kdev or kdevelop06:31
OODworks fine over here: sudo apt-get install kdevelop306:32
Ash-FoxWhy don't you search in Adept?06:32
OODn06:32
OODthat n was supposed to go into konsole :P06:33
BlueFrogportalfire@SleepyTiger:/$ sudo apt-get install kdevelop306:33
BlueFrogReading package lists... Done06:33
BlueFrogBuilding dependency tree... Done06:33
BlueFrogE: Couldn't find package kdevelop306:33
BlueFrogportalfire@SleepyTiger:/$06:33
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OODlooks like you'll need the universe repository06:33
OOD!universe06:33
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource06:33
thompaanyone got a clue to whats wrong with OO.org06:34
OODwhats the problem06:34
thompai just typed a larege doc all went well06:34
thompanow going back to start new documnet the spellchecker has dissapeared06:35
thompaalso lang entries06:35
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thompaone other thing was that the letters would kind of shift a little also06:36
thompalike a display issue06:36
OODthe spellchecker doesn't work by default if that's what you mean06:36
thompai mean i used it up to now, where is it06:36
thompai just reinstalled it and its still missing06:37
james_does anyone in here know how to configure a wxga laptop screen to switch to 1280x800 resolution? the forums mention using a package called '855resolution' which is not in my repos. i can get '915resolution', though...06:37
OODtools->spellchecker or F706:37
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thompaf7, it says spell check is complete06:38
thompayes i have tpyed something,06:38
OODthere's no dictionary installed06:38
thompai can see the language area now also greyed out06:38
thompaI know there is I just checked06:39
thompaamerican lang pack is installed so is aspell06:39
BlueFrogthank you06:40
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Steven_Mhave any of you ever run mc in the "konsole" program?06:42
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thompaOOD: it was set for canadian english06:43
thompai never changed it, but now it works06:43
thompaits unstable anyway06:45
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thompamaybe its my nvidia card06:45
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krinnswhen i mount floppy07:03
krinnsit says mount: you must specify the filesystem type07:03
krinnswhat this mean07:03
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Steven_Mbye all07:05
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=== Zaire 's lazy time is over UT is back installed just need sound lol
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lucashow can i play .wmv files?07:16
=== Zaire dunno lol
Cornelliussudo apt-get install w32codecs07:17
lucasi have them installed07:17
HawkwindFollow the restricted formats page07:17
lucasthe file might be encrypted..07:18
CornelliusNormal07:18
lucasi get: cant read media. (Media stream scrambled/encrypted)07:18
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RawSewageanyone know a good Linux eBook reader07:22
bobstroRawSewage:  what format ebook?07:23
RawSewagetxt from Gutenberg07:23
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CornelliusTXTs ?07:24
RawSewageyes07:24
Zaireok so now I have audio......this is messed lol07:24
RawSewagebut Gutenberg07:24
RawSewageeBook readers know how to format those07:25
bobstroRawSewage:  i'd probably use less, but are you after specific features (e.g. bookmarks?)07:25
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RawSewageno07:25
RawSewageI guess back to Google...07:26
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krinnsRawSewage07:26
krinnsi have high pint raid controller and a driver in floppy07:26
RawSewagehm, maybe PLucker07:26
RawSewagehuh07:26
krinnshow i add that driver during install of kubuntu to get that conroller to work07:27
RawSewageI dont know07:27
RawSewage!info high pint raid07:27
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ubotuPackage high does not exist in dapper07:27
bobstroRawSewage:  there is "gutenbrowser"07:28
bobstroi think that's "high pOint"07:28
bobstrohigh pint sounds like hallucinogenic alcoholic beverage.07:29
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noaXess_kubuntugood morning all..07:30
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noaXess_kubuntui want to make a ntfs hd... is this possible? what package need to install?07:30
noaXess_kubuntuuuuubsd: europe?07:31
RawSewagebobstro, that looks more like a Gutenberg book downloader07:31
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RawSewagefor browsing Gutenbergs library07:31
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lwizardlhi07:32
bobstroRawSewage:  the blurb i'm seeing is "gutenbrowser is a reader for etexts produced by Project Gutenberg. It iintegrates with KDE. " I haven't used it myself though.07:32
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lwizardlin 6.06 how do i get my nvidia card working? it was working in 5.1007:32
RawSewagehm07:32
noaXess_kubuntu!nvidia07:33
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:33
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noaXess_kubuntu!tell lwizardl about nvidia07:33
bobstroRawSewage:  i just installed it. looks like a reader with bookmarks and such.07:33
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bobstroRawSewage:  you can browse the collection from it as well it seems. interesting.07:35
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RawSewagebobstro, ok thx07:37
RawSewagei'll try it07:37
satafterhi think force yes means it will install even if there is an issue, it that about right?07:42
RawSewagebobstro, whoops..  I probably shouldnt have used sudo07:43
Hawkwindsatafterh: Yes, that is correct07:44
RawSewagewas I supposed to do  sudo apt-get install gutenbrowser07:44
bobstroRawSewage:  let me know if you figure out how to download into local libarary with it. i can browse, but if i hit "load", title disappears but is not in local library.07:44
RawSewagebobstro, me too07:44
RawSewagebobstro, I wonder if it's because of sudo07:44
bobstroRawSewage:  i used synaptic, so not sure.07:45
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RawSewagebobstro, yes, thats it.  change the permissions on the folder and subs07:46
RawSewageso its readable/writabel by all07:46
bobstroRawSewage:  which directory? i own ~/.gutenbrowser07:47
RawSewageyeah07:47
RawSewagethat one07:47
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RawSewageright click it07:47
RawSewagechange the permissions for it and the subfolders07:48
bobstroah07:48
RawSewageProperties - Permissions07:48
RawSewageand check that box at the bottom for subfolders07:48
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bobstroRawSewage:  hmm. titles still don't show in local library.07:50
Cntryboydoes kubuntu have a video player as default as good as vlc movie player, codec wise?07:50
RawSewageKaffeine07:50
unix_infidelmplayer07:50
bobstrojust get the right codecs!07:50
noaXess_kubuntuCntryboy: vlc is also available :)07:51
Cntryboydoes it play dvd,vcd,svcd,divx ect. with out having to dl plugins or codecs ect07:51
CntryboyI don't wanna have to dl codecs07:51
unix_infidelyou're going to have to deal with codecs regardless of the player.07:51
unix_infidelotherwise, its just shipped as a depends :P07:51
noaXess_kubuntu!tel Cntryboy about !mp307:51
ubotuI know nothing about tel Cntryboy about !mp307:52
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noaXess_kubuntu!tell Cntryboy about !mp307:52
ubotuI know nothing about !mp307:52
noaXess_kubuntu!tell Cntryboy about mp307:52
unix_infidel!tell Cntryboy about mp307:52
unix_infidelLOL07:52
CntryboyI know vlc is available but it doesn't come with kubuntu07:52
noaXess_kubuntuunix_infidel: lol :)07:52
Cntryboydon't flood me dude07:52
bobstroCntryboy:  the ability to play/not play is dependent on codecs, regardless of which front end you use.07:52
unix_infideltake it like a man...07:52
noaXess_kubuntuCntryboy: read it and understand07:52
RawSewageIt keeps making my library invisible07:53
Cntryboybobstro: not true vlc has a lot of codecs already with it07:53
bobstroCntryboy:  so if it's working on kubuntu now with vlc, you should be good to go with any/most of 'em.07:53
unix_infidelCntryboy: there's no way to avoid codecs unless you build your own deb that makes codecs part of the depends.07:53
bobstroCntryboy:  have you tried the other players?07:53
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unix_infidelheck, i could make my own variation of mplayer that just downloads EVERY SINGLE codec available through official and nonofficial repos and that would fit your bill.07:54
Cntryboyya'll im stoned07:54
unix_infidelbecause you dont have to mess with codecs directly, it 'ships with' the codecs you need.07:54
Cntryboygive a oh poor cntryboy a chance to keep up07:54
bobstroCntryboy:  well don't be so grouchy, dude.07:54
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Cntryboybut i mean vlc plays quiet a bit, all I wanted to know was their a player with kubuntu already that plays as many codec wise with out having to dl anything07:55
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CntryboyI'm not grouchy bobstro07:55
noaXess_kubuntuCntryboy: you should know about easysource.. ask ubotu07:55
bobstroCntryboy:  totem is good. there are several. you do need to get the codecs REGARDLESS OF PLAYER, but if one is working, try the others (e.g. totem).07:56
Cntryboytotem sucks ass07:56
Cntryboylol sorry for the cuss07:56
unix_infidelthen dont be a cuss.07:56
Cntryboyand vlc I didn't have to download a single codec07:56
crimsunvlc will be even better in Edgy07:56
Cntryboygo dl vlc and see if u have to dl codecs for it07:56
bobstroCntryboy:  i'm not rating them, i'm telling you there are others and that you should TRY them because if they're working for vlc, they'll work for the others most times.07:57
crimsunI'll be enabling the w32loader, so it can use w32codecs, too.07:57
noaXess_kubuntuCntryboy: apt-get install vlc will do all for you.. but only if you have the right sources..07:57
bobstroCntryboy:  are you saying vlc comes with all the proprietary codecs?07:57
crimsunbobstro: (it doesn't)07:57
noaXess_kubuntubobstro: yes..07:57
noaXess_kubuntucrimsun: most of..07:57
bobstroCntryboy:  and i'm kinda curious why the aversion to "downloading" when you're downloading other stuff the same way.07:58
Cntryboywhy doesn't kubuntu come with a lot of games, like regular dapper ubuntu does?07:58
crimsunnoaXess_kubuntu: many. I disabled ones that we can't build with for technical reasons.07:58
Cntryboybobstro: I have 2.1KB dial up thats why07:58
bobstroi was under the impression that the proprietary codecs were a problem in non-commerical (non pay) distros.07:58
noaXess_kubuntucrimsun: "we can't build.." are you from videolan.org?07:59
justanotherhi guys07:59
justanotheri have a problem with adept07:59
crimsunnoaXess_kubuntu: no. see the changelog for vlc.07:59
justanotherit says database is in use, can't update everytime i start it07:59
noaXess_kubuntucrimsun: ah you mean they disabled some codec's07:59
justanotherit kinda crashed during an update of java08:00
crimsunnoaXess_kubuntu: no, I mean we (as *buntu devs) had to.08:00
Cntryboysomeone ping me08:00
justanothera restart didn't helped - what can i do?08:00
noaXess_kubuntujustanother: have you other apt open? try in terminal: ps ax | grep apt or ps ax | grep adept08:00
noaXess_kubuntucrimsun: aha.. it's to early in the morning.. sorry.. :)08:00
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justanotherno, don't think so... at least i didn't start anything... (the adept notifier is open, though)08:01
Cntryboywill someone ping me? I think im lagging bad08:01
noaXess_kubuntujustanother: what's about ps ax...?08:02
Cntryboylalala08:02
justanothernoaXess_kubuntu: it doesn't show up in the process table08:03
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noaXess_kubuntujustanother: what error comes up if you start do in terminal sudo apt-get update ?08:03
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hey560there is a bug in kubuntu08:05
hey560sorry in amarok08:05
justanothernoaXess_kubuntu: it fetches the list and says: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem08:05
justanotherseems to be a problem concerning java... at least it's doing sth right now ;)08:06
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justanothernow it seems to work, thx a lot08:08
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justanotherbtw, what's the difference between sun-java5-bin and sun-java5-jre?08:10
raphinks/bin$/jre/ is the difference08:11
raphinkjustanother: did you read the apt-cache show entries?08:11
justanotherah, ok... and why can't i install it with adept - it seems to stop with an licence agreement page or sth...08:12
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justanotherraphink: it says unable to locate package entries08:12
raphinkadept doesn't support the license agreement dialog yet I think08:12
raphinkso just install it with sudo apt-get install08:12
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raphinkiiirc08:13
Zairesweet that was one heluva UT round lol08:13
justanotherraphink: yeah, seems so...08:13
admin_I have a hsfmodem in a lapie and need to roll a 2.6.16 kernel for dapper, what is the safest Kubuntu-way to create a new kernel ?08:14
justanotheris there a way to close adept now?08:14
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raphinkjustanother: I don't know where you are exactly08:14
raphink:s08:14
raphinkadmin_: I guess just the way you would build a kernel ;)08:14
Cntryboyokay back08:14
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Cntryboywhy doesn't kaffene have sound? the speaker is muted. I'm trying to play a dvd08:15
admin_raphink> isn't there some debian packages to assist ?08:15
justanotherraphink: well, at the license agreement (show details) - at 3%...08:15
raphinkadmin_: never built a kernel for myself, but maybe08:15
noaXess_kubuntujustanother: hm.. close the window?08:15
raphinkjustanother: is there no cancel button or so?08:15
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bimberi_!kernelcompile08:16
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild08:16
justanotherraphink: no... and if i close it with [x]  it kinda crashes...08:16
admin_bimberi_> thank you :-)08:16
bimberi_admin_: np :)08:16
raphinkjustanother: well if it crashes, then it's quit ;)08:16
raphinkjustanother: so the result is what you want ;)08:16
noaXess_kubuntuyeha08:16
Cntryboyanyone?08:17
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justanotherraphink: well, not quite what i want because now i can't start it again to do the other updates...08:17
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Cntryboywhy doesn't kaffene have sound? the speaker is muted. I'm trying to play a dvd08:17
raphinkjustanother: you do not want to start it again08:18
hey560anyone else having problems with flac and amarok 1.4.108:18
raphinksince you said adept is unable to deal with your package08:18
raphinkdon' tuse it08:18
raphink;)08:18
raphinkgo sudo apt-get -f install08:18
raphinkand see what happens08:18
raphink:)08:18
justanotherthe database is used thing...08:19
bobstroCntryboy:  do you have any sound?08:19
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justanothernow i can't even do sudo dpkg --configure -a, because the database is locked08:20
raphinkhmm remove the lock file I'd say08:21
raphinki think the error message says where it is located08:21
Cntryboybobstro: Not with in the movie with kaffine now, but sound in general yes08:21
CntryboyI mean no not now08:22
justanotherwell, it works if i kill the adept process and then run the dpkg --conf...08:22
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Cntryboy?08:26
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Cntryboybobstro?08:26
bobstroCntryboy:  not having that problem here, though that icon is misleading (speaker with slash thru it). it plays with sound in vlc for you?08:26
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Cntryboydunno I don't have vlc08:27
Cntryboybut when i had it on ubuntu yes08:27
Cntryboycan anyone help me with sound in kaffine please?08:28
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hereticimbrandon:08:32
hereticMate you there?08:32
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imbrandonkinda08:32
imbrandonsup ?08:33
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heretichey mate08:34
=== Zaire has working dual monitors and Unreal Tournament lol
hereticimbrandon:08:34
hereticim having troubles mate :(08:34
imbrandon?08:34
hereticIt makes me wanna put windows back on.08:34
hereticlol08:34
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imbrandonsup?08:34
hereticMy firefox is really jerky08:34
hereticand my Mp3 player, freezes and stops playin randomly.08:34
imbrandonwhile doing what ?08:34
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imbrandonouch08:34
hereticthings are freezing :@08:35
hereticand i dont like it :(08:35
imbrandonwhat kinda computer do you have ?08:35
koshheretic: what kind of cpu, what speed and how much ram do you have?08:35
imbrandonyea08:35
hereticP4 3.0 ghz 1 gig of ram.08:35
heretic120gig hardrive08:35
LionRockIm connecting with tightVNC to my kubuntu machine. It looks like tVNC is connected to machin but it does not ask me for password ? on kubuntu machin it shows that Im connected: tcp6       0     0 ::ffff:10.0.0.25:5900 ::ffff:193.77.156.xxx:4835 TIME_WAIT08:35
koshis your hard drive ide or sata?08:35
hereticide08:35
koshcan you do sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda     in a konsole window and paste the results?08:36
heretic/dev/hda:08:37
heretic Timing cached reads:   3468 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1733.89 MB/sec08:37
heretic Timing buffered disk reads:  162 MB in  3.02 seconds =  53.64 MB/sec08:37
hereticwhen i click any other window, then the one i have open08:38
koshokay sudo hdparm /dev/hda does it say that using_dma is 1?08:38
hereticit freezes/locks up and takes ages.08:38
hereticyes08:39
hereticUsing_dma (1on)08:39
koshcan you put a konsole window somewhere that you can see it while clicking on other stuff and run top?08:39
koshI want to know what is using the cpu time when you click to other windows08:39
hereticyeah08:39
hereticdone08:39
noaXess_kubuntuwhat need i to install for creating ntfs partition's?08:39
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koshI think that only windows can create ntfs08:39
koshlinux can read but writing is unsafe08:39
osirisnoaXess_kubuntu, write access to ntfs partitions isnt supported08:39
heretichmmmm kosh08:40
heretichow do i see what my CPU is using?08:40
noaXess_kubuntuosiris: :(.. only access them.. hm..08:40
osirisrad access is fine08:40
osirisread08:40
noaXess_kubuntuheretic: top08:40
koshrun top in the konsole window08:40
hereticwoah08:41
hereticalot of suff is there.08:41
hereticwhat am i lookin at mate?08:41
osirisit LIVES~! =)08:41
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koshI want you to click on various apps to move them forward and backward and take note of what apps show up near the top08:41
hereticwhen i drag a window, i get like major screenlag or something :S08:42
koshalso can you put the top lines of top down to the swap line in the pastebin?08:42
hereticI have no idea how to do that mate lol08:42
koshyeah drag it so it does not cover the top window so you can see what is going on08:42
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hereticyeah i can see whats going on when i drag the Konversation window.08:42
hereticbut when i drag it it juts lags and freezes :(08:43
koshhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/   that is the pastebin  copy the top 5 lines of the top output into the pastebin08:43
heretici cant copy it08:44
heretici copy it, then i cant paste it :S08:45
hereticwth?08:45
justanothereverytime i start sth from the terminal i get this error-msg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1731408:45
hereticwait i did it lol08:45
heretichttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1731508:46
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hereticthis is killing me08:47
justanotheranybody knows what this error means (btw, the app starts anyway...)08:47
hereticany ideas kosh?08:48
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LionRockcan anybody help me :/08:48
hereticwelcome back kosh08:48
koshsorry I was playing with some kde config stuff08:49
heretichttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1731508:49
koshyou you and the other person that asked for help put those pastebin links back up again?08:49
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koshokay so your system says it is not swapping, it is not out of memory, and that it is almost completely idle08:49
koshheretic: and you using xgl or something like that?08:50
koshs/and/are08:50
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koshI will be back in about 10-20 minutes08:51
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hereticwhat is xgl?08:52
hereticor s/and/are?08:52
scheuri!xgl08:52
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems08:52
heretici dont think im running it :S08:52
heretici didnt install it or whatever.08:52
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hereticim running "xorg"08:54
hereticis that that xgl thing :S08:54
hereticsorry guys im new, i appreciate your help.08:54
justanotherkosh: everytime i start sth from the terminal i get this error-msg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1731408:55
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scheuriheretic: no, xorg is not XGL08:56
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p1zz4hi all, kann mir kurz jemand helfen?08:56
scheuriheretic: xorg is the X-Window needed to have a GUI (graphical user interfacd) such as KDE, Gnome, etc.08:56
scheurip1zz4: englisch bitte...deutscher support gibt es im deutschen channel08:57
p1zz4sry, wrong chan08:57
macdis it normal for a upgrade from breezy to dapper after packages to only take about 5 minutes?08:58
macdafter packages are downloaded...08:58
scheurimacd: I doubt it08:58
macdI just watched the minutes go from 59 to 2 then done and packages were just flying by08:58
bobstroi have two computers on kvm (a desktop, and dell laptop). display on desktop is beautiful on this lcd (with nvidia driver) but on same lcd, laptop display is fuzzy (ati driver). any ideas on how to get both looking ood?08:59
macdthey went down by 1 minute each but in 1 second increments per se08:59
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macdI guess I'll have to wait till it restarts to see if it worked09:00
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scheurimacd: I really suspecting some failures there...was it a server installation? desktop?09:00
macddesktop, its a pretty fast machine09:00
scheurimacd: still...kinde weird it took just a few minutes09:00
heretichmmm09:01
macdyeah I thought as well took about 45 minutes on my laptop09:01
heretici want to know why my comp is lagging/freezing/up09:01
Zaireram with mixed frequencies perhaps.... that was my problem09:01
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macdscheuri: well it just came back to the gdm login and I logged in....its fine.09:01
_rince_mrgn09:02
macdI wasnt this fast prior, SMP kernel may have helped ..09:02
hereticwhats the newest version of cedagra out?09:02
heretic5.1?09:02
macdcedega?09:02
scheurimacd: hmm...that does lsb_release say?09:02
LionRockIm connecting with tightVNC to my kubuntu machine. It looks like tVNC is connected to machin but it does not ask me for password ? on kubuntu machin it shows that Im connected: tcp6       0     0 ::ffff:10.0.0.25:5900 ::ffff:193.77.156.xxx:4835 TIME_WAIT09:02
scheuriheretic: aye, 5.1 is pretty new I think09:03
philliposophyso i'm learning that KDE programs run well in Ubuntu (probably in addition to kubuntu) but I can't access the help files. Is that common?09:03
macdno lsb modules available09:03
scheuriphilliposophy: maybe they are not installed?...I must admit I dont know just now what kind of package you need to install09:03
macdkernel 2.6.15-25 though, thats dapper correct?09:03
scheurimacd: "lsb_release -v" or something09:03
Hobbseemacd: yep09:03
justanotherhow can i mount a hidden partition of an external hdd (usb)09:04
macdstill no lsb modules, but it seems to be fine...09:04
philliposophyno i installed a bunch tonight and theyre working just fine. It's only when I try to access the help files when I run into problems09:04
macdIve just never seen a upgrade go that fast09:04
philliposophyEven with Konversation09:05
macdfor the record dual xeon (new dual-core ones) very fast on SMP kernel.09:05
philliposophy"Could not launch the KDE Help Center"09:05
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macdis it normal to have the output of no lsb modules ?09:06
macdafter -v option passed09:06
philliposophynight09:06
justanotherthe partitions of the external hdd doesn't show up in mount -l (altough the ones that aren't hidden are displayed in konqueror)09:07
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edulixhi !09:09
edulixwhich was the alternative to del.icio.us, smoething like sa.broso.us or similar, but can't find it09:10
KaiserSuseedulix: plea.se.tell.us09:10
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hereticim contemplating put on mac x86 on09:10
heretici give up :(09:10
Zairemy new PC gonna be mac x86 lol09:11
hereticlol09:11
hereticYou building a "hackintosh" ?09:11
Zairenopes norm PC just with mac os09:11
heretichave you checked the HCL to make sure all your components are compatable.09:11
hereticbecause its really touchy.09:12
Zairegonna have AMD 64 Dual Core 480009:12
hereticand if you dont check it and just build it, i gurantee you something wont work, e.g sound, ethernet etc09:12
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KaiserSusehey, how would one make an .iso from a Mac OS X install dvd?09:12
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hereticyoud have to make a .dmg KaiserSuse09:12
Hobbseehi KaiserSuse09:12
hereticthen convert that into an .iso mate09:12
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heretictheres a program that does that, i just cant remember the name :S09:13
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KaiserSuseHobbsee: hello09:13
Zairesee sometimes download and try is best to do before buy lol09:13
KaiserSuseheretic: MacDrive?09:13
hereticYeah i think thats it.09:13
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hereticKaiserSuse:  i run a site where you can get ultraiso ;)09:13
hereticBut i dont want to paste it here, and it be considered spam09:13
hereticand i cant notice you or pm you cause im not reggd.09:13
Zaireultraiso is windows software kinda useless here09:14
hereticahhh thats right lol09:14
hereticforgot im in linux channel09:14
heretic:D09:14
ZaireK3b is good though09:14
hereticI have a linux/other os's forum on my site lol09:14
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hereticthats where im getting cedagra!09:14
hereticfor free :D09:14
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Zaire?09:14
Zairefree cedega?09:14
hereticyeah its warez though mate lol09:15
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KaiserSuseI don't have the Mac OS X disc here but I wanted to try dd if=/dev/dvd of=macos.iso09:15
scheuriheretic: this is about GPL, please do NOT support warez09:15
Zaireah ic lol I want cedega on my PC for the september lan party lol09:15
hereticsorry scheuri lol09:15
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heretichow do i register?09:15
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=== Zaire wants to be first in my regional area here to go to lan with a pure linux system lol
heretic_01lol Zaire09:17
heretic_01Did you get my notice mate?09:17
Zaireyes09:17
niranjanhi09:18
korielhow can I upgrade my kernel to 2.6.16?09:19
korielI mean can I do this with adept?09:20
koshback09:20
scheurikoriel: either by downloading the source and compiling on your own, or finding it as binary package somewhere09:20
scheurikoriel: no, (to your second question), unless it is offered by one of your sources in source.list09:20
korielit's not and I really need it09:20
koshjustanother: sorry no idea on that one09:21
NeoChaosXyeah, a 2.6.16 kernel won't be officially released for dapper09:21
NeoChaosXyou'd have to compile it yourself09:21
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scheurikoriel: in /etc/apt/source.list you define where your adept is looking for packages...called repository...if you find a repository that has 2.6.16 then you are lucky enough to install it with adept09:21
koshheretic_01: is this a fresh install that is having all of these slowdowns, did the slowdowns start right away or did they happen later?09:21
korielhow can I compile it with the configuration of my current kernel?09:21
crimsuncp over /boot/config-$(uname -r)09:22
koshkoriel: why do you want to upgrade your kernel?09:22
imbrandon http://www.buntudot.org/2006/07/06/buntudotorg-radio-podcast-2/  <-- interview with LaserJock about Paris UDS if anyone cares ;)09:22
korielto support my builtin webcam09:22
korielit needs the gspca driver09:22
koshah09:23
koshhow much do you know about compiling software, hardware etc?09:23
scheurikoriel: you are able to use your config which is located at /boot/ and its called config-[yourkernel]  as crimsun said09:23
korielkosh: much enough I suppose but I'm a little scared...I'm used to slackware09:24
scheurikoriel: use this config when compiling the new kernel. However you might be asked some more because as kernel changes it changes also its options09:24
korieland kubuntu seems different09:24
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Zairefor some reason I can't apt vlc09:24
scheuriZaire: have you added multiverse and universe repository?09:24
Zairedon't even know how and I don't get the help docs09:25
koshmaking your own kernel is not recommended09:25
scheuri!repos09:25
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource09:25
koshand you need to know about grub also so you can get your new kerkel in right09:25
scheuriZaire: check the second URL suggested by ubotu09:25
ZaireI tried that and had to restore my sources.list file09:25
scheuriZaire: what happend?09:26
Zairecouldn't apt anything09:26
scheuriZaire: after changing the sources.list you ALWAYS need to do an update (such as "sudo aptitude update" or in adept)09:26
koshsudo apt-get update09:27
Zairetried09:27
korielis there a tool to configure grub in kubuntu?09:27
scheurior "sudo aptitude update"09:27
koshsudo update-grub will do it automatically pretty much09:27
scheuriZaire...okay...may you pastebin your curren sources.list?09:27
koshassuming that /boot/grub/menu.lst is set correctly09:27
scheuri!pastebin09:27
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:28
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korieljust that and I will get a kernel choice prompt at boot time when I'm done?09:30
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scheuriZaire: ookay...FIRST: set a # in front of Line 5! (which is the CD-ROM thing)09:31
scheuriZaire: SECOND: remove the # in line 22/23 and 32/3309:31
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scheuriZaire: THIRD: remove the # at line 38/3909:32
scheuriZaire: after that...very important...do a "sudo aptitude update" or use adpet to update your sources09:32
scheuriadept*09:33
Zaireupdate is in progress09:34
scheuriZaire: good09:34
ZaireI say screw GUI editing lol09:34
scheuriZaire: the line 5 is now commented...that means when installing stuff, it does NOT ask for the CD-ROM anymore...09:34
Zairegood that was a pain09:35
scheuri:)09:35
scheuriZaire: is update complete?09:35
Zaireyeps09:36
scheuriZaire: then "aptitude search vlc"09:36
Zairethere now Im able to apt it09:36
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scheuriZaire: "sudo aptitude install vlc"09:37
scheuriZaire: et voila...:)09:37
Zairethx09:37
scheurivery welcome09:37
Zairedoes this mean I have mp3 support to or is that another area?09:37
scheuriZaire: that is another area...let me point you to the wiki09:38
scheuri!restricted09:38
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:38
scheurifollow the first guide and the the others...then you should be set for mp309:38
scheuriZaire: its actually quite easy09:38
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korielkosh: so I just copy paste config from /boot in new kernel and make09:43
Zaireall I needs for lan is mp3 so I don't need to lug around my music CD wallet, Unreal tourny, video playback and Cedega for BF2 and Counterstrike 1.6 lol09:44
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koshkoriel: once you configure the kernel you will want to use make-kpkg binary09:45
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koshkoriel: that way the system will make deb files for you to install09:45
ZaireI think though for doing mp3 repositories I might just get the sections from a friend of mine lol09:45
koshkoriel: you will also want to use make menuconfig or make xconfig to look through the kernel config to add support for the device you want supported09:46
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koshwell I am wandering off have fun09:47
lowtechZaire: get the dual monitors working?09:47
Zaireyeps lol then beat my head against my keyboard for how easy it was lol09:47
lowtechok09:47
ZaireI didn't know you had to enable the damn drivers lol09:48
LionRockIm connecting with tightVNC to my kubuntu machine. It looks like tVNC is connected to machin but it does not ask me for password ? on kubuntu machin it shows that Im connected: tcp6       0     0 ::ffff:10.0.0.25:5900 ::ffff:193.77.156.xxx:4835 TIME_WAIT09:48
ZaireI even got Unreal tourny working09:48
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korielkosh: I can't, Im getting an error when running make menuconfig09:48
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DaSkreech!wmv10:03
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:03
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damy[] hi all10:04
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damy[] in kubuntu, where is synpatic?10:04
mindspinits kynaptic or adept10:05
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weedarAfter removing tor and privoxy apt-get still seems to want to use the proxy that isn't there - how can I turn it off?10:10
fekit's configured in /etc/apt/sources.list10:10
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Zairewhat program can be used to extract .rar?10:13
damy[] mindspin, can you help me to add at adptic universe repository?10:14
fiyawerxZaire: unrar?10:15
damy[] how can i add universe repository at adptic?10:15
Zairek got it now how do I use it lol10:15
fiyawerxunrar <filename>10:16
fiyawerxwith no <>'s ofc10:16
weedarfek, I don't see any reference to using a proxy in sources.list10:16
fiyawerxZaire: or if that doesn't work, just type unrar for the syntax10:16
fekweedar: please paste it somewhere10:16
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lowtechunrar -e file.rar i believe10:16
fekweedar: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:17
fekno10:17
fekx10:17
fiyawerxlowtech: thanks10:17
fekwithout a -10:17
fekand x will create the folders, too.10:17
feke won't create the folders out of the archive10:17
ZaireI get nothing from unrara <filename> or unrar just says command not found10:17
fekunrar x foobar.rar10:17
lowtechah, wasn't sure on the -10:17
fekZaire: apt-get install unrar-free10:17
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feklowtech: i had the problem often, too. ;)(10:18
weedarfek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17321 - But I still think the settings that make apt-get use a proxy lie elsewhere :)10:18
ZaireI did that but it doesn't seem to be working :(10:18
fiyawerx!java10:18
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository10:18
fiyawerx!flash10:18
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:18
fekZaire: sorry: apt-get install unrar10:18
fekZaire: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ is your friend10:19
Zairethe first one was right I got it but it doesn't seem to be working10:19
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fekZaire: is your archive corrupt?10:19
fekwhat happens when you do unrar x file.rar?10:19
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ZaireI hnothing says bash command not found10:20
Zairedamn can't type lol10:20
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fekZaire: you are sure, that you installed unrar?!10:21
Zaire it says its already the latest version when I try to apt-get it again10:21
fekZaire: unrar itself or unrar-free?10:23
Zaireunrar-free and it says there is no candidate for the other10:23
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fekZaire: that's the problem, you need the multiverse tree10:23
fekZaire: watch into your sources.list10:23
Healotpansu- pansu-10:23
fekZaire: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=unrar&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=dapper&arch=i38610:24
markchas anyone built a new kernel for dapper ? .. what is the debian/rules invocation for a 686 SMP ?10:24
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markcAUTOBUILD=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs flavours=686 <- I tried this and it seems it still tried to build an i386 kernel.. but it crapped out anyway10:25
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_nielsHi there I recently installed Dapper and now I'm a bit in trouble as DD doesn't like NDISwrapper10:26
Zairewhat kinda of @zzhat would rar a file made for linux anyway10:26
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_nielshas anyone an idea how to get it work?10:26
Hobbsee_niels: DD?10:28
Zaireisnt their another program that can be used to unrar files10:28
Hobbseeand define "doesnt like'10:28
HobbseeZaire: ark10:28
Hobbseei think10:28
Zaireark won't unrar my file though10:28
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_nielsHobbsee: Dapper Drake10:31
Hobbsee_niels: right.  and define "doesnt like"?10:31
_niels<pre wrap="">You need a recent kernel at least 2.6.6 or 2.4.26 with source.10:31
_niels</pre>10:31
_nielsHobbsee: I have a kernel 2.6.23i38610:32
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Hobbsee_niels: is that from the package off the cd?10:32
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Zairedamn why would you make it so that a program like unrar has to have a repository its got to be one of the stupidest things Ive heard10:33
_nielsHobbsee: no, I've used the one from sourceforge10:33
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Hobbsee!ndiswrapper10:33
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:33
Hobbsee_niels: did you grab the linux-headers-($uname -r)?10:34
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Healotpansu- pansu-10:34
ZaireI need unrar but that site link I was given just keeps taking me in circles10:34
_nielsHobbsee: nope, not as yet...10:35
EvilIdlerI've got  Realtek 8169 gigabit NIC that ceased to function today. I removed some memory, and it didn't work on bootup. Tried latest kernel.10:35
Hobbsee_niels: there's your problem.   see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#head-c1ebf95637d110c5f01b9a1383d137f79d8cbddb10:36
EvilIdlerIt keeps saying "link is not ready" when I try to configure it :/10:36
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_nielsHobbsee: Thanks a lot I'll give it a try10:37
Zaireseriouly this unrar thing is one of the things that could keep me from a full crossover from wondows to linux and believe me I plan on being the first at the lan party Im going to to be running a pure linux System10:37
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Hobbsee!unrar10:37
ubotuI know nothing about unrar10:37
Hobbsee!rar10:38
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression10:38
HobbseeZaire: ^?10:38
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fekis there a problem known with konsole and transparent background?10:39
Zairethat link doesn say much10:39
Healot!info unrar-free10:41
ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB10:41
Healot!info unrar-nonfree10:41
ubotuPackage unrar-nonfree does not exist in dapper10:41
Healot!find unrar10:41
ubotuFound: unrar-free, unrar10:41
Healot!info unrar10:41
ubotuunrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB10:41
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Zaireadept even says its installed10:43
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Zaireok I removed it from adept and tried again nothing still10:45
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lowtechwhat about with sudo10:48
Zairenope it just says bash command not found10:48
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lowtechsorry, i'm too knew to kubuntu and that box is off. i don't know how to use apt to show a packages files either, if it can10:50
ZaireIm new to it to Im used to mainly redhat 910:51
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LionRockIm connecting with tightVNC to my kubuntu machine. It looks like tVNC is connected to machin but it does not ask me for password ? on kubuntu machin it shows that Im connected: tcp6       0     0 ::ffff:10.0.0.25:5900 ::ffff:193.77.156.xxx:4835 TIME_WAIT10:55
gatekeeperZaire: take a look at this: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/57845-rar-ark-any-other-way.html10:57
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Zaireits something to do with my repositories I believe11:02
exceswaterhey pplz11:03
Zairebut Im totaly **censored** cluless as to how to fix it11:03
exceswateri have a problem11:03
exceswaterin some flash games11:03
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exceswaterif i press right keys for the game nothing happens11:04
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exceswaterwhy ?11:04
Zairedamnit this is annoying11:05
Healotpansu- pansu-11:06
gatekeeperZaire: If I look in synaptic unrar and unrar-free are listed I suggest you modify your sources like this and install either/or http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories11:07
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Healoth.323 gatekeeper?11:09
gatekeeperZaire: as far as I can see all you need to do is ensure on of these pacakages are installed then use the CLI and enter the command: unrar x file.rar where file.rar is the name of your file11:09
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ZaireIm still confused about this repository stuff I mean I have no idea what exactly Im supposed to change and how11:10
gatekeeperHealot: something to do with VoIP :-)11:11
Shanghaiteejrepositories are just a bunch of links to different webistes/servers11:11
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Shanghaiteejwhen you use synaptic or adept, you are comparing the software you have on your computer, to the versions on the repository servers11:12
Shanghaiteejso when you type: sudo kate apt-get /etc/apt/sources.list11:12
Healotgatekeeper: is the telephony business blooming in the UK?11:12
Shanghaiteejyou are looking at all the addresses of your repository list11:12
Shanghaiteejdoes that make sense Zaire11:12
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gatekeeperZaire: just follow the howto you are essentially replacing the contents of a text file which tell apt/Adept/Synaptic where all the repositories are, after the basic install not all are enabled11:13
Zairestill isn't clear cause the how to says replace all but I don't know if thats gonna mess up other repository stuff Ive done11:14
Shanghaiteejno11:14
Shanghaiteejit won't11:14
gatekeeperHealot: Tesco are flogging their VoIP telephone as much as they can, BT still making money had over fist with landlines but that will change over time11:14
Shanghaiteejyou will be fine11:14
Shanghaiteejjust make sure you type: sudo apt-get update11:15
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Shanghaiteejin your terminal before you open up synaptic or adept11:15
Zairebut that site has less sources in the list then my sources file11:15
Shanghaiteejyeah11:15
cox377hey all11:15
Shanghaiteejyou can compact it11:15
cox377does anyone use the KBFX applet?11:15
Shanghaiteejdon't worry11:15
gatekeeperZaire: back your file up as it suggests then you can either go back to it or extract bits out of it11:15
Healotgatekeeper: but your operators are in India right?11:15
Shanghaiteeji don't think he has even edited his sources.list file yet11:16
Shanghaiteejso he wouldn't need to11:16
gatekeeperHealot: some are yes11:16
Zaireit would be nice if they could make it so you have to apt the program and not have to mess with stuff11:16
Shanghaiteejyou mean install it like windows?11:16
Healotgatekeeper: can I work with BT if I am Indian?11:16
Shanghaiteejyou can still do that11:16
Shanghaiteejthis just makes it easier11:16
Shanghaiteejbecause if they is an update11:16
Zaireactually I have edited it to enable certain stuff but was walked through it11:16
gatekeeperHealot: I guess11:16
Shanghaiteejadept/synaptic will automitcally inform you11:17
Shanghaiteejalright, well make sure you don't delete them11:17
Shanghaiteeja screwed up sources.list is not going to mess up your computer11:17
Shanghaiteejyou can always fix it11:17
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Shanghaiteejif you try to update it, all ubuntu will say is that your sources.list is messed up11:18
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cox377does anyone here use KBFX???11:19
PupenoHello.11:19
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gatekeeperZaire: It's not that difficult and far superior to windows :-)11:20
PupenoI see that in .bashrc there's code for colorfull prompts, yet, the prompt is boringly plain in Konsole and xterm. Does anybody know why ?11:20
Healotit's because the color setting in konsole doesn't use .bashrc?11:21
ZaireI **censored** hate windows but I also hate editing files like this to11:21
HealotSettings -> Configure Console; click on Schema tab11:21
PupenoHealot: color settings in konsole ? what do you mean ?11:21
PupenoHealot: no configuration in Konsole should change how bash prints the prompt. Am I wrong ?11:21
Healotls -a >> you'll see colors11:22
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PupenoHealot: I am talking about the prompt, not the output of other programs. I am talking about PS1.11:22
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gatekeeperZaire: with linux it usually come with the teritory :-)11:22
ZaireI know but its annoying none the less11:23
Zairemy attampts to switch completely over to linux have been the reason I have formatted my computer close to 35 times this month my persistence know no bound but my patients on the other hand does11:24
Healotdon't switch to Linux if you think you're not ready yet11:25
gatekeeperZaire: depends what you are looking for, many people will tell you it is power to control your own system and configure it the way you want it, it's a little off putting when you first start but as you get to know your system it becomes more natural11:25
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DaSkreechWhats the problem?11:26
ZaireIm switching to linux cause my only other alternative is mac and I hate windows and mac with a passion and have been trying to switch over in actuality for the last 5 years11:26
DaSkreechBeOS? :)11:26
ZaireI also have been considering taking a Linux course11:27
insanekaneZaire: sorry for this in advance, but I've been waiting for an opportunity like this ... if you don't like it, change it ;P11:27
Healottake it know then...11:27
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Zairean guess what go figure the source list stuff from that site didn't work it still say bash command not found11:28
gatekeeperZaire: (k)ubuntu is a distro where you have to do some extra bits & pieces after you install, and the up side is your learn as you go on, if you want something that "works out of the box" try PCLinuxOS or Mepis11:28
gatekeeperZaire: have you installed it?11:29
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Zairelike I said my persistence know no bound and alot of that is related to the fact that Im mildly obsessive compulsive11:29
HealotZaire: f***?11:30
ZaireIM not gonna quit till Ive finished in other words11:30
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chun_thumbs up* =p11:30
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BurneGo to www.idpz.net/tomytom/linuxblog.htm :)11:31
ChunLaptopwhat happened? repository problem?11:31
Healotlinux blogs are infested with try outs and stupid people who are "trying" out11:32
robexcept mine :)11:32
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Healoti hate line saying "Yesterday, I tried this distro and this does not work, and that doesn't work bla bla"11:33
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EvilIdlerHehe. Today, it's networking not working for me. But other than that, my blog would be a boring "Ubuntu still works" every day :)11:34
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Healottry starting such blog with that line alike, I'll kill your blog for sure :)11:34
LEO9whenever i am in kde, many kde apps (i haven't tested them all) ignore my LD_PRELOAD variable (it seems kde deliberately forces them to do it). this also happens in other wms, but only when i start the kde application from konsole (the kde terminal). this never happens with non-kde apps, not even in kde. how do i fix this?11:35
EvilIdlerWhy even bother with Linux blogs, anyway?11:35
LEO9EvilIdler: what is a *linux* blog?11:35
LEO9EvilIdler: a blog on a linux server?11:35
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EvilIdlerLEO9: Feck knows!11:35
EvilIdlerThere's no need to just talk about it for the sake of it. Websites related to specific software are more useful :)11:36
EvilIdlerGah, my network card is acting as if it's broken :/11:37
Zairescrew it11:37
Healotdump ubuntu then.. hohoho11:37
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EvilIdlerYeah, right. I need rest, not constant fiddling :)11:38
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EvilIdlerGuess I'll have to swap cards on computers to determine if it's really broken. I have a green light when powering on, though it disappears once the driver loads :(11:39
ChunLaptopaye sarcastic angry people on the channel today?11:40
Healotaye aye captain11:42
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ChunLaptopanyone else here having problems w/ the flash plugin and firefox?11:46
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Healota lot of them out there11:47
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Healoti use Adobe's Flash with Konqueror, and I can play the suicide bomber game now11:47
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ChunLaptopyea i ended up using konqueror for flash sites now,11:48
ChunLaptopjust wondering if anyone tried a recompile of firefox and if it solved the problem11:49
Healotwhat problem though11:49
ChunLaptopfirefox freezes up when using the flash plugin for 3 of my systems, but konqueror's ok w/ it11:50
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ChunLaptopflash intensive sites* like myspace or whatever11:51
Healotthe proprietary flash, or the free one11:51
ChunLaptopproprietary i think, when you visit a flash site firefox downloads and installs flash11:53
exceswaterhealot11:54
exceswatergive me an advice plz11:54
exceswaterwhen i try to play some flash games11:54
exceswatersometimes it seems like it won't recognize keys11:54
exceswater:d11:54
exceswaterwhy11:54
ChunLaptop>< that sounds more like a problem w/ the game than w/ flash11:55
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Healotcan't give any advice on that, since Flash is proprietary, but I can give a bad advice, use Internet Explore :)11:56
ChunLaptopyuck =p11:57
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Healotit solves all your Flash problems11:57
Healotliterally gone11:57
wilyhi all11:58
ChunLaptopwine doesn't solve a lot of problems =p11:58
ChunLaptophello11:58
HealotIt shouldn't because too much of WINE can get you drunk12:00
HealotWindows is the best operating system to run Windows applications12:00
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ChunLaptopflash is an internet app* works well in other distros, just not ubuntu12:02
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ChunLaptopand getting drunk is a good thing once in a while, good for the heart and better before clubbing haha12:04
Healotyup12:06
Healotyet many ubuntu users complain about Flash12:06
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ChunLaptopi guess i'll live w/ using konqueror as my main webbrowser12:09
HealotKonq all the way, dump Firefox12:09
Jack1guys why does the system tray icon for battery disappears from my tray<<<<<<<always<12:09
Jack1?12:10
HealotI am hating firefox these days12:10
ChunLaptopmy battery icon stays all the time in my sys tray12:10
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ChunLaptopjack1, try right clicking on your battery icon, click configure KLaptop and make sure show battery Monitor is checked12:12
Jack1how could i make a cd ripper faster?12:14
Jack1how to turn on dma?12:14
Healot!dma12:15
ubotudma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA12:15
ChunLaptopyou shouldn't need to worry bout dma12:16
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_nielsHi Folks what means this message: LD-static final link failed ; I'm on Dapper Drake12:16
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ChunLaptopwhat were you trying to do niels?12:17
Jack1ChunLaptop klaptop is configured right and the icon turned on, but it keeps disapperaing from the kicker!how could i mak eg grip or soundjuicer rip fater<??12:17
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_nielsChunLaptop: Well I basically have installed KUbuntu and in the process of its first boot i became that message12:17
guillermohola12:18
_nielsChunLaptop: any ideas?12:19
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ChunLaptopyou probably have a bad install then niels12:20
ChunLaptopcuz you were able to run the live CD right?12:20
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_nielsChunLaptop: yes, I was able to run the Live Version12:20
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vladihi guys, quick question, before I installed cedega 5.1 from a .deb, now what do i need to do to install the new version (5.2) from a .deb?12:21
ChunLaptopyea something probably didn't get copied over from the CD, if you are having link problems on a fresh install12:21
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ChunLaptopi'm not sure jack,12:22
_vladi_would i do a dpkg -r and then a dpkg -i12:23
ChunLaptopvladi, dpkg -i should be fine12:23
_vladi_kk, wasnt sure if i had to remove it first12:24
_nielsChunLaptop: Could it be that the image is kind of broken?12:24
ChunLaptopvladi? do you happen to be vladimir from UCR?12:25
_vladi_my name is Vladimir, but i'm probably not that guy :-)12:25
_nielsChunLaptop: The thing is/was: I tried to install ndis using adept and adept cooldn't find it. Then I thought I should go for a reinstall12:25
_nielsChunLaptop: and then I did get that error-message12:25
ChunLaptopoh ok i thought maybe you could be my computer science TA haha12:26
_vladi_dpkg-deb: `cedega-small_5.2_i386.deb' is not a debian format archive12:26
_vladi_did i get a bad archive?12:26
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ChunLaptopniels adept couldn't find ndiswrapper?12:26
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ChunLaptopvladi check the size of the file make sure it's not 0, could be a bad archive12:28
ChunLaptopyou trying to install the free cedega?12:29
_vladi_nah, cedega cedega12:29
_vladi_heh12:29
_vladi_yea its 1.3meg12:29
_vladi_normally its around 7..12:29
_vladi_musta got corrupted in the d/l or something12:29
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ChunLaptopniels when you say reinstall, you mean reinstall the whole OS?12:30
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ChunLaptopbut yea if it's a fresh install and it gives link errors it's probably a bad install12:32
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ChunLaptopanyone here try SLED and compared it to kubuntu?(suse linux enterprise desktop)12:34
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DanielWhi12:35
ChunLaptophellloooo12:35
DanielWhow can i install kdenetworkmanager?12:36
ChunLaptopyou trying to find a wifi manager?12:37
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ChunLaptopwlassistant is the wireless assistant to connect to different ssids12:38
_nielsChunLaptop: sorry, i had to be on the phone for a sec12:38
_nielsChunLaptop: yep. I had to reinstall the whole OS12:38
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DanielWChunLaptop: but wlassistant is not kdenetworkmanager :-(12:39
_nielsChunLaptop: I have a doc here (but its in german) - in which they've compared KUbuntu, Fedora and SLED12:40
HealotAss - the other vagina LOL12:40
ChunLaptopniels, after you reinstalled and it gave you link errors then that means it didn't install correctly, so you need to reinstall again12:40
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ChunLaptophealot, yuck i dont want my **** to smell like ****  + you want to make the girl gag not puke afterwards lol12:43
LynoureHmmm12:46
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DanielWhttp://tom.acrewoods.net/node/431 <- argh where did he get it from?12:47
ChunLaptopi give good advice on everything, i need a halo over my head and a 100k job,   danielW well if it's not in the repository, you're proably gonna hafta find the repository w/ it or look for a DEB file12:47
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ChunLaptopor compile from source~ download source from main site ./configure, make, make install,        and use adept to get any files its missing12:48
ChunLaptopsorry lyn! no means to offend anyone in the channel12:50
DanielWChunLaptop: put ist should be in the repository. at least someone in the german kubuntu forums says that (or it could be understand that way)12:50
LynoureChunLaptop: It just seemed totally irrelevant. Mostly you are probably just offending your girl.12:50
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Healotsorry my bad12:51
Healotjust some tag line from T-Shirt my friend is wearing12:51
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ChunLaptopyea it's irrelevant healot started it, sorry again12:52
ChunLaptopi'm trying to feed into everyone's conversation here12:53
HealotI found it offensively funny12:53
LynoureAnd I was just poking my head here between boring bug hunting and boring documenting...12:53
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ChunLaptopooh bug hunting? flash plugin is no good in firefox but works in konqueror12:54
LynoureChunLaptop: I'll be a software tester by trade for 9 workdays still. Not my cup of tea.12:54
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ChunLaptopyikes, i just graduated so i'm looking into what options i have12:56
Healotcareer option?12:57
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ChunLaptopyea, graduated as computer science12:57
LynoureChunLaptop: Unless you like criticizing other people's work and hate fixing/building things, and still are not a completely annoying when going to critizicing, I wouldn't recommend it12:58
Healotjust like me...12:58
LynoureAAt least for me, being a sysadmin or programmer is far more satisfying12:58
senseiYeah, I hear you12:59
ChunLaptopyea, that's exactly what i want to do12:59
senseiWell, sometimes it's nice to critizise someone in-house rather than getting it yourself from a client :)12:59
ChunLaptopi've been doing some game programming, so maybe that or jr linux sys admin would be good, or MySQL + PHP developer12:59
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HealotChunLaptop: are you willing to work in India?01:00
ChunLaptopno healot, going to india doesn't seem like an option for me, i like sunny california =)01:00
Healothttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_panda >> the real firefox01:01
senseiDo what I did, get some windows know-how, take a job at a small to medium company, and then migrate their whole computer park to Linux, it was great fun01:01
senseiAlthough not completely hassle-free01:02
Lynouresensei: Sounds like it :)01:02
Healotand American companies are shifting jobs to India01:02
cox377sensei: how big is your company?01:04
LynoureHealot: Where is your company located, btw?01:05
ChunLaptopyea there had to be some hassles, i been learning all the win server2003 stuff, and visual studio01:05
HealotMalaysia01:05
Healot:)01:05
Healotit's the little India01:05
senseicox377: Not working there anymore (not because of that though ;)) But it had 140 or so employees01:05
HealotMicrosoft Malaysia hired 42 Indian programmer last year01:06
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cox377that a lot of turn around01:06
cox377; )01:06
sensei:)01:06
LynoureHealot: my hubby spend his childhood there.01:06
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Healot26 of those Indian programmers somehow arrested by the local cops01:07
Healotbecause local police confused them over another group of illegal Indian immigrants01:08
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Jack1hi01:09
ChunLaptopyea some day i hope to do that sensei, still looking i was thinking of getting those certifications but eck, more classes =p =p01:09
Jack1add a PPD (Postscript Printer Description) file that is suited for LaserJet 102001:09
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Jack1how to do that?01:10
arsohey guys01:10
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exceswaterwho can help me01:10
exceswaterin some flash games i cannot play01:10
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ChunLaptophello01:10
exceswaterit doesn't take the keystrokes01:10
exceswaterwhy ?01:10
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Jack1HOW CAN Iadd a PPD (Postscript Printer Description) file that is suited for LaserJet 1020?01:10
arsoi am using wine to instal a game , "wine /mnt/hdb5/CS/CS 1.6.exe" isnt this the right command? i am ge tting locaation not found or something01:10
senseiChunLaptop: Yeah, not at all what you crave when you've just graduated I assume :)01:10
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Jack1i mean what and how do i need to do to add this file?01:11
SkrotFFSHi. What packages do I need to burn audio cds from mp3 with k3b?01:11
Healotwine "/mnt/hdb5/CS/CS 1.6.exe" >> try this instead, arso01:11
Healot!mp301:11
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:11
ChunLaptopexceswater there's a standalone flash player that plays flash i forgot what it's called, but it's in linux format magazine01:11
arsoHealot:  k sure01:12
arsoHealot:  yup :D01:12
arsoHealot:  i didnt know we needed a " "01:13
exceswateri can play flash01:13
ChunLaptopsensei, not what i would crave, but it seems up there in the CS jobs01:13
exceswaterbut i cannot play flash game... some of them01:13
Healotarso: it is because of za space01:13
exceswaterit seems like it doesn't taje my keystroke01:13
arsoHealot:  wat space?01:13
Healotspace frontier, arso01:14
arsook01:14
arsothnx01:14
ChunLaptopjack, there's a CUP manual online that'll help you install the def file01:14
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ChunLaptopexceswater, try playing it in the konqueror web browser maybe01:15
Jack1sensei do you know how i could rip faster ? i just found using paranoia and turning >>>>dma on, (apparently not being right?)01:15
LynoureChunLaptop: If you could get any entry level CS job (assuming you didn't work in the field during your studies), what would you want to do for living?01:15
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ChunLaptopLynoure, it's hard to tell right now, yea i haven't done any work in the field yet, i like game programming since i just did it last quarter, but i think linux programming and admin jobs might be more stable?01:17
arsoHealot:  i installed the game and everything, cant find it tho01:17
arsoHealot:  wasnt it supposed to get added to kmenu01:17
arsoHealot:  i reboooted too01:17
Healotarso: it is somewhere in ./wine/C etc01:18
Healotfinisged installing01:19
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ChunLaptopall my programming in school has been in C++ and linux, which i think is an edge compared to most other entry people01:19
arsoHealot:  k i'll check =)01:19
senseiChunLaptop: In game development? I doubt it :/01:20
senseiMaybe in a decade or so when the gaming industry finds the Linux market01:20
ChunLaptopwell the C++ over the ppl from schools that just teach java01:20
LynoureChunLaptop: There in no guarantee of job stability other than to get good at whatever you do. Especially in a country like USa where firing people is easy and fast.01:21
ChunLaptopPS3's supposed to be running linux01:21
arsoHealot:  so once i find it, wat file should i open?01:21
Healotyup, when your jobs go to India01:21
Healotwine <the exe file>, arso01:22
Healotfound the file yet, arso?01:22
arsoHealot:  looking..01:23
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Healotarso: my two cents are "cd ~", "cd .wine"01:24
arsoHealot:  from konsole?01:24
Healotyes... that would be it01:24
Healotif you properlu install WINE01:24
arsoya i did01:24
arsowith someones help01:25
Healotgreat01:25
arsocd.wine01:25
arsobash: cd.wine: command not found01:25
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Healotspace, mine the space01:26
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Healotcd .wine01:26
arsoohh01:26
arsook now wat01:26
Healotfirst type "cd ~" and press enter01:26
Healotls ?01:26
arsoarso@Arso:~/.wine$01:26
Healotok01:26
Healottype "ls"01:27
ChunLaptophmm, i'll try to keep up and get good, i've been working on making a game this summer to put on a fancy php website w/ my school projects, not up yet tho01:27
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mpathyHi There.. Somebody knows something about the current state of sync'ing mobile phone with Kontact? Under Gnome with Evolution its very easy via MultiSync, but under KDE it seems a bit harder..?01:28
arsosystem.reg  userdef.reg  user.reg01:28
Jack1if i have to do for ubuntu 5.10 to do this (for installing a printer)01:28
Jack1sudo gnome-cups-manager01:28
ChunLaptopa really nice command line file explorer is mc (midnight commander) looks and acts exactly like nc (norton commander) from the good ol' dos days01:28
arsoHealot:  system.reg  userdef.reg  user.reg01:28
Jack1WHAT SHOULD I DO for kubuntu dapper?01:29
arsoHealot:  dosdevices  drive_c  system.reg  userdef.reg  user.reg01:29
Jack1also gnome-cups-manager?01:29
Healotarso:  next "cd driver_c"01:29
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Healotarso:  next "cd drive_c" damn01:29
arsoHealot: ?01:29
arsoi am in01:30
arsols?01:30
arsoProgram Files  windows01:30
Healotcd "Program Files" >> and next cd to your game installation01:31
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arsook i am in01:32
arsowith ls,  i get 4 lines full01:32
arsolook for exe?01:32
ChunLaptopok i'm going to sleep, 4:30am here -_-01:33
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ChunLaptopgoodnight all01:34
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Healotarso what are the directories listed?01:34
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ChunHere4aseclast thing    hey arso, you should look at www.linux-gamers.net under the howtos section, tells you how to install CS 1.601:37
arsok thnx01:38
ChunHere4asecand also has a nice script to download cvswine01:38
ChunHere4asecok goodnight01:38
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ryanhi01:41
arsohi01:42
ryanwhats going on in here then ?01:42
arsopeople ask for help01:43
arsoothers help them01:43
ryanIs it any good ?01:43
arsoit tends to be more crowded later on, about 3 hours from now +01:43
arsoya01:43
ryancool01:43
arsoi ve been using linux for a week, and they helped me with pretty much everything01:43
arsoand ive had a LOT of problems01:43
ryanNice one, how are you finding it ?01:43
arsolovin it01:43
arsoits just awesome... linux rox :D01:44
ryanbettter than window$01:44
arsoonly drawback i see, is games,01:44
ryanyea01:44
arsootherwise, imho i find it better than windows01:44
ryanbut its getting better01:44
[GuS] ryan,  better in a million of years :P01:44
arsoexactly01:44
HealotWindows rocks with proprietary games01:44
justanotherhey guys01:44
[GuS] lol01:44
arsobut thats it01:44
arsootherwise windows = overloaded virus infested crap01:44
ryanIve got Doom3 Quake3 and 4 MOHAA and more running on linux01:44
[GuS] Healot, you smome something weird :P01:45
Healotarso: true for new users01:45
arsoHealot:  meaning?01:45
justanotherwhat's the easiest way to use thunderbird under kubuntu and windows - i searched but didn't found anything really satisfying01:45
arsoryan:  mohaa? wats that01:45
ryanMedal of honor01:45
[GuS] justanother, sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird01:45
[GuS] :P01:45
arsoryan:  oh ok, i am getting CS to work now01:46
[GuS] more easy than that,.,,01:46
ryanCS ?01:46
[GuS] Counter Strike01:46
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ryanah01:46
ryannative01:46
[GuS] works fine under cedega01:46
arsoi dont have a cadega01:46
ryanI see01:46
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arsoi need to buy it right?01:46
[GuS] yes01:46
[GuS] i have for dapper :P01:46
ryandownload the cvs cedega its free01:47
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[GuS] ryan, yeah... but is not easy to make ir work the cvs version..01:47
arsoryan:  how is it different from the other one?01:47
ryanlol01:47
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ryantrue01:47
justanother[GuS] : i already installed it... but i need a way to share the profile (so i can access my mails under kubuntu and windows)01:47
[GuS] is simple01:47
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[GuS] you must copy the entire dir profile01:47
[GuS] and you will have the same thing under any os01:47
arsohey guys on wine, how do i uninstall stuff01:48
arsothey dont seem to go no matter how much i delete and uninstal01:48
Jack1i dont get it01:48
Jack1i can get neither printer nor scanner get installed in dapper01:48
ryanits a tad buggy01:48
justanother[GuS] : well, i have the profile on a fat32 partition but it doesn't quite work under kubuntu... it says, it can't save the mail01:48
[GuS] Jack1, usb or parallel?01:48
Jack1usb Gus01:49
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[GuS] maybe because of the permission justanother01:49
[GuS] check out if is under your username those dirs01:49
[GuS] and if have write permission01:49
justanother[GuS] : i guess so, but i don't know how i have to set the permissions01:49
[GuS] click with the righ button on the dir justanother01:49
ryanhas anyone had problems with the nvidia drivers causing hanging on shutdown and boot up ?01:50
[GuS] and check out the owner permission and the user that owns that dir01:50
Jack1[snapscan]  Cannot open firmware file /usr/share/sane/snapscan/your-firmwarefile.bin.01:50
Jack1  <[GuS] >01:50
[GuS] wich model are the devices Jack1 ?01:50
Jack1u mena this dir eg <[GuS] ><<<<<<<<<01:50
Jack1hp laserjet 1020 and epson perfection 2480 photo <[GuS] >01:50
[GuS] you  have problems with the HP too? weird01:51
Jack1yes01:51
Jack1GuS i did that http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12554501:51
[GuS] ok, let me check something01:52
Jack1and followed this guide http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/ <[GuS] >01:52
[GuS] you have configured the printer right in the systemsettings, Printers?01:53
Jack1<[GuS] > i did that from the guide above first, had the foo2js driver in synaptic uninstalled and added later the device in the sys settings ..then it worked one time, but not again01:54
ryanarso you there ?01:54
DanielW                                                                                                 v01:54
DanielW01:54
DanielW01:54
[GuS] you are using ubuntu or kubuntu?01:54
DanielW01:54
[GuS] DanielW,  ?01:54
DanielW01:54
Jack1<[GuS] >kde01:54
DanielWoh :-(01:54
DanielWsorry01:54
arsoryan:  yesi am here, sorry, wats up?01:54
ryanfile incoming01:55
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arsoryan:  i use ati btw01:55
DanielWafter a kernel update to 2.6.15-25 i can not use man pc-card wlan  anymore :-(01:55
justanother[GuS] : right now the owner can read/modify and group, others can view01:55
[GuS] Jack1, check if you added the printer in systemsettings... wich just that must work01:55
DanielWhow can i back to 2.6.15-23?01:55
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[GuS] good justanother01:55
[GuS] justanother,  is under you username? (check at the bottom)01:55
justanother[GuS] : yes01:56
[GuS] Good01:56
Jack1<[GuS] > well there is an unknown device and my printer but with a red symbol01:56
ryanIm trying to send you a file arso01:56
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arsoryan:  oh i am not getting anything01:56
DanielWcan someone help me please?01:56
ryanok01:56
[GuS] Jack ok. if your type in konsole lsub.. you will know where is connected01:56
arsoryan:  are u on konversation or mirc?01:56
[GuS] brb01:57
Jack1<[GuS] >right now my printer is printed cursive..no red symbol01:57
ryanKonv01:57
arsome too01:57
arsoi donno really, never transferred files here yet01:57
Jack1Bus 001 Device 013: ID 03f0:2b17 Hewlett-Packard01:57
Jack1 <[GuS] >01:57
ryanmaybe my firewall01:57
arsoor mine01:57
arsowat is the file anyway01:57
ryancedega01:58
DanielWthe 2.6.15-23 should be on the kubuntu dvd? can i intall it from there?01:58
ryanarso do you have Ktorrent01:59
Jack1Bus 001 Device 014: ID 03f0:2b17 Hewlett-Packard01:59
arsoryan:  yes, but i use azureus01:59
ryanjust get it off there01:59
arsoryan:  just link me i'll get it ;)01:59
Jack1<[GuS] > i tried it without hub now01:59
ryanhttp://www.mininova.org/search/?search=cedega02:01
arsothnx02:02
ryannp02:02
ryangotta go, off to work :(02:02
arsoso hows it working with u?02:02
ryanfine02:02
arsooh,02:02
arsowat difference from the one with $$02:02
ryanahem it is the one02:03
arsooh02:03
arsohaxorzed/02:03
ryanno not really02:03
ryanjust install the appropriate package and use the command line02:03
arsohttp://www.mininova.org/tor/342073           is this one good02:03
arsoryan:  is there any guide u follow for commands and such02:04
ryan2 secs02:04
arsok02:04
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ryanhttp://www.mininova.org/tor/313434 use this one02:05
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arsook download over02:07
arsonow wat?02:07
ryanbloody hell that was quick02:07
arsoturned out i already downlaoded it before ::P02:08
arsoso torrent just started seeding02:08
ryanis there a package there suitable for deb02:08
arsoumm i am newbie :P, meaning?02:08
ryanbaring in mind ive only installed this on Mandriva Ive only just started using Kubuntu02:09
arsooh02:09
arsowe02:09
arso'02:09
arsoll give it ashot02:09
Jack1pls can so help me with the printer<<?02:09
Jack1i get mad02:09
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ryanhttp://downloads.transgaming.com/files/cedega_troubleshooting_5.2.html02:09
arsoi extracted, there r 3 folders02:10
arsoetc opt usr02:10
ryanany .deb packages in there02:10
arsoomg donno02:10
arsoeach folder leads to 10 folders02:11
ryanlol02:11
arsoeach one to another 10 and so on02:11
arsolol02:11
arsou there?02:12
ryanI reckon you have to extract the files into the appropriate folders ie. the files in etc go in your system folder /etc02:12
ryanand so on02:12
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arsoum how :P02:13
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arsodo uremember how to do it02:13
arsostep by step02:13
Jack1from kjobviewer the jobs disappear and i cant print..no idea why02:13
ryanerr no, in mandriva yes, but Kubuntu I havent done yet02:13
arsoi see02:13
arsodarn02:13
ryanI will download the one you have and have a look02:14
arsothnx a lot :D02:14
arsoi am looking up "cedega on kubuntu"02:15
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arsoso wat exactly was that package we downloaded, a 'free' version?02:15
ryanlol, done that 8 mag connaction is handy02:16
arsour at work?02:16
ryannot yet02:16
arsoic02:16
arsogreat speeds u got02:17
ryanjust got an upgrade02:17
arsocool02:17
arsoi got a 512kbs connection =(02:17
ryangood enough thou02:17
arsomax speedds of 62KB/s02:18
arsoso hows it going with the installation02:18
arsowish i could follow this http://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/2005/11/linux-gaming-part-3-installing-cedega.html02:18
DanielWafter updating the packages kubuntu doesn load my wlan interface modul by itself (and i don't know its name)02:18
ryanthere is an install guide in the package you unzipped02:18
arsoryan:   i didnt undderstand most of it =(02:19
arsocould u help me out with it please?02:19
arsowtf, i am listening to jpop02:19
ryanwhere have you extracted the files to ?02:20
ryanfolder names pls02:20
arsoryan: /home/arso/torrents/cedega-5.1.3-OES/cedega-5.1.3-OES02:21
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arsothis one has those 3 folders two compressed and the readme02:21
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arsomy cursor is acting weird02:22
omeowMine is too.02:22
omeowIt blinks when I load a webpage.02:23
omeow(flickers very fast I mean)02:23
arsomine is a bit jerky02:23
arsoall of a suddenn02:23
ryanyou copy the files by brining up a terminal , su to root and type cp /home/arso/torrents/cedega-5.1.3-OES/cedega-5.1.3-OES/etc /etc02:23
arso"su to root" umm how please02:24
ryantype "su" no quotes02:24
ryanenter password02:24
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arsosu: Authentication failure02:25
arsoSorry.02:25
arsoi am sure bout pass02:25
ryanroot password02:25
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ryancaps ?02:25
arsoyes02:25
ryanah wait02:25
arsonoNOno02:26
ryantype sudo root02:26
arsosudo: root: command not found02:26
arsowtf02:26
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arsou know wat02:27
arsoa lot of stuff is mesed up02:27
arso let me reboot02:27
omeowhahaha02:27
ryangotta go to work mate, catch you maybe tomorrow02:28
Jack1how can i uninstall a printer>? via remove in system settings?02:28
ryanbrowse the net for help its all there, and here02:28
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arsoback02:30
arsoryan?02:30
omeow[14:28]  <ryan> gotta go to work mate, catch you maybe tomorrow02:31
omeow[14:29]  <ryan> browse the net for help its all there, and here02:31
arsodarn02:31
arsoomeow:  thnx tho, appreciate it02:31
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Howitzerhow do i bind certain filetypes in firefox with an application permanently?02:32
arsowtf, somethings up with my root password02:32
omeowarso: just type sudo su and then your own password.02:32
Howitzerlike .mpg with kaffeine02:32
arsoomeow:  thats the thing, its not working02:32
Howitzerit always forgets it02:33
Hobbsee!sudo02:33
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:33
Hobbseeomeow: please use sudo -i or sudo -s for that, if you must keep a root shell open02:33
arsowat other places can i type my root password02:33
omeowDon't think you can on Linux, Howitzer. I've never done it.02:33
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Hobbseesudo su is not supported in kubuntu02:33
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omeowYou get a menu for that in Opera though. ;)02:33
omeowHobbsee: works fine for me.02:33
arsook sudo -i      worked02:33
Healotyay02:34
Howitzeromeow, in Ubuntu it worked i think02:34
Healotdeleted ubuntu partition, and extend the NTFS volume...02:34
Healoti;ve been stealing space from the office hard disk02:34
arsolol02:34
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arsoumm guys my mouse is so jerky02:35
arsostops  then moves again and stuff02:35
arsowat can it be02:35
arsoits not wireless so cant be battery issue02:35
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arsoLOL, it just started working fine02:36
Healotmouse movement can be laggy sometimes02:36
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arsoi guess02:38
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omeowEspecially in adept.02:39
omeowBecause it autofilters on startup even when you haven't typed anything.02:40
omeowI wishhhhhhh it was possible to disable the autofiltering and that it would just give me a button to click that says "search".02:40
arsohaha02:40
arsooh well02:40
arsowats the pastebin link please02:41
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arso!paste02:41
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:41
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PupenoHello.02:43
PupenoWhy are info sections of basic things that I have installed, just as gprof, missing ? I have the man page but the info is missing ? Maybe there's some package containing them ? I can't find it.02:44
arsohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17334    could someone help me out with this please02:45
arsoi did everything till step 502:45
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yvonne!wastebin02:45
ubotuI know nothing about wastebin02:45
yvonne!trash02:46
ubotuI know nothing about trash02:46
arso!love02:46
ubotuI know nothing about love02:46
arsolol02:46
yvonnedoes anyone know how to add a trash can to the desktop02:46
Healotthe trash icon?02:46
yvonnewell02:46
yvonneyeh02:46
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gnomefreakyvonne: help.ubuntu.com has a great guide ont hat02:47
Healotdrag the trash icon to the desktop02:47
yvonnecheers02:47
arso[16:45]  <arso> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17334    could someone help me out with this please02:47
arso[16:45]  <arso> i did everything till step 502:47
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yvonneGuardalavacadoesnt work healot02:47
yvonnedoesnt work healot02:47
Healotworked for me... can't remember how i did that02:48
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arsoHealot:  could u help me out please02:48
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yvonnewhats xubuntu ?02:52
VHockey86_workuses xfce instead of KDE02:53
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Philip5arso: if you have cedega why not install the .deb package?03:00
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omeowSeems quite obvious to me.03:01
Philip5omeow: :)03:01
omeowHe warezed it and doesn't have access to the .deb03:02
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arsoPhilip5:  where can i get that?03:03
arso:p03:03
Philip5hehe03:03
Philip5arso: www.transgaming.com :)03:04
arsoneeds $$ eh03:04
Philip5but that's not the answer you wanted03:04
arsoyup ;)03:04
arsoOPEN SOURCE God damn it :P03:04
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Philip5but if you done that then you should have the cedega file in your path03:04
arsodone wat?03:04
omeowwow $5 is so expensive.03:04
Philip5done those steps03:04
arsoits only 5?03:05
arsoPhilip5:  i am having trouble following them03:05
Philip5arso: what's hard about them?03:05
Philip5they tell you exactly what to do03:05
arsoPhilip5: step 6: run cadega as normal users03:06
arsorun it from where?!!? i cant find it03:06
arsonewbit :(03:06
Philip5run it from konsole03:06
Philip5i.e03:06
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arsowat command exactly please03:06
Philip5the commands are on that text03:07
larson9999i didn't know there was xubuntu.  how many dapper *ubuntus are there?03:07
Philip5larson9999: 303:07
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larson9999Philip5: i know of 403:07
Philip5oh03:07
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Philip5arso: if you have that much trouble with installing that then you will have plenty of trouble with cedega as most games need extra tweaking03:09
arso argh, why is this such a pain in the ass03:09
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larson9999to try out xfce, i just installed it.03:09
Philip5arso: beats me03:09
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Philip5larson9999: which 4? i know of ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu. which one have i missed?03:10
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BrigadierFrogedubuntu03:11
BrigadierFrog?03:11
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larson9999edubuntu03:12
arso:'(03:12
larson9999what's arso trying to do?03:12
Howitzerthere's also nubuntu03:13
Kamping_Kaiserits not offical03:13
jayNew to Kubuntu here... nvidia driver causes hard lockup of desktop for me. :(03:13
Howitzermade for networking and comes with Fluxbox03:13
Kamping_Kaisertheres lots of unofficals, only 4 officals03:13
arsolarson9999:  to run cedega03:13
Howitzereh03:13
arsobrb reboot router03:13
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Howitzerafaik there aren't a lot of unofficials03:14
larson9999arso: oh, i just run wine since it runs everything i've wanted to so far03:14
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Howitzeromfg03:15
Howitzeri LOVE swiftfox03:15
Howitzerit friggin flies03:15
larson9999at first i thought it was silly having a different distro just for a different wm.  but seeing how many things that don't work right in mandriva+kde that work just find in kubuntu, maybe it's not such a bad idea03:16
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VHockey86_worklarson9999: ya, it helps. Kubuntu runs a heck of alot better than just apt-getting KDE on ubuntu as well.03:17
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VHockey86_workOr at least it seems to for me03:17
larson9999VHockey86_work: for 7 years i just thought kde had bugs it didn't want to fix !03:18
arsoi am back03:18
arsoso any cedega users03:19
VHockey86_workhmm, isnt KDE the default WM for mandriva?03:20
VHockey86_workI havent used it since mandrake 9.3 though03:20
Philip5VHockey86_work: it is03:20
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Jack1how could i uninstall my printerdrivers ?03:21
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VHockey86_workonly thing that really bugs me about KDE is that some of the graphical stuff just doenst quite work right. Like the little bouncing mouse cursors will stay there for 30 seconds even though your application was closed or failed to start.03:21
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larson9999VHockey86_work: in the installation process, you select which WMs you want03:21
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larson9999VHockey86_work: the 1st thing i do when setting up kde is disable that stupid stuff.03:22
sensationanyone here to solve a ubuntu problem in german?03:22
VHockey86_workI could never seem to find the option for that03:22
Eamon!de03:22
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:22
cox377is there a short cut key for terminal?03:22
VHockey86_worklooked under "look n feel" and mouse cursors and stuff03:22
Jack1was brauchstdu sensation?03:22
larson9999VH it's called 'launch feedback'03:22
larson9999VHockey86_work:  it's called 'launch feedback'03:23
sensationmein notebook gibt sound ber die internen boxen wieder, aber nicht ber den line-out03:23
arsoguys03:23
EamonHow is kubuntu different to MEPIS? (I'm using MEPIS now btw)03:23
arsohow do i install03:23
VHockey86_worklarson9999: thx03:23
arsosomething tha i installed with wine03:23
emonkeysensation, mach ein /j #ubuntu-de03:23
Jack1sensation sry keine ahnung ....hatt ich bisher nicht das proble03:23
emonkeysensation, dann kommst du in den deutschen Kanal03:23
sensationkk03:23
cox377eamon, i used mepis before.. and i thought i liked it more.. but then i tried kubuntu and never looked back03:23
Eamonarso: Same as in windoze, just keep clicking 'next'03:23
emonkeysensation, oder /j #kubuntu-de dann kommst du in den deutsche kubuntu Kanal03:24
Jack1 /j #kubuntu-d03:24
Eamoncox377: Is kubuntu more stable? MEPIS crashes like windoze ME for me03:24
arsoEamon:  i do, but it stays there03:24
cox377never had one crash03:24
arsoEamon:  even tried deleting all the files in the wine directory03:24
cox377does anyone know how to add trash can to desktop under kubuntu?03:24
larson9999i've had a few lockups on ubuntu03:25
BKajyeah cox377, that panel situated trashcan bugs me as well03:25
cox377is there no way of getting around it03:26
Eamoncox377: How is kubuntu better? does it have that cool feature where you can just 'drag+drop' mp3s off audio cds and it converts them on-the-fly?03:26
cox377i checked out the help guide for ubuntu but the same guide does not work under kubuntu03:26
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cox377eamon, actually.. to tell you the truth i havent played around that much with the multimedia side of things03:26
cox377but i will say that i would say mepis is better for multimedia03:27
cox377maybe.. maybe i just dont know enough about it.. but mepis's multimedia was very much plug and play03:27
Philip5cox377: creat a Link to location and link it to trash:/03:27
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cox377i tried to link it to trash03:27
cox377"/ (trash)" but it didnt work03:27
BKajI heard PCLINUX was best for multimedia, but I couldn't install it on my AMD64 pc03:28
Eamoncox377, I think I'm gonna install kubuntu anyway - what makes kubuntu a better distro in your opinion? You said you'd never look back - why?03:28
Philip5cox377: works for me03:28
EamonBKaj: I have an AMD64 pc too - I just install 32bit shit on it03:28
cox377philip5: was the location the same as what i just stated03:29
Philip5cox377: trash:/03:29
cox377eamon: not entirely sure, useablity and the alike. Just feels better... little things here and there03:29
cox377philip5: cheers shall give it a go03:29
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BKajyeah Eamon, I dumped Dapper 64 for the 32 bit version and stiff like automatix etc runs much easier03:30
cox377philip5: brilliant, it worked. Do u know how to add things like remote places / home folder etc03:30
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BKajcan the gear icon for trash link be changed ?03:34
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sensationdoes anyone know how to solve this problem runnin ubuntu: sound plays back over the internal speakers, but doesn't gives a playback while I will running over line-out to my hifi03:35
cox377mine auto changed03:35
arsocould someone help me uninstall wine and install it again please?03:35
cox377open the adept manager03:36
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arsooh from there03:36
arsowhen i installed i t, we did some commands apt get thing03:36
cox377yeh03:38
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arsowtf i removed wine from adept03:40
arsobut its still there i kmenu03:40
arsowith the programs that i tried to uninstall 20 times03:40
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EamonWhat version of amarok comes with kubuntu 6.06?03:41
larson9999one thing that is worse for me in ubuntu is quicktime movs.  they are all jumpy for me.  wmv files are fine03:41
BKajhmm, what link did ya use for the Trash? ...application ?03:42
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Philip5BKaj: not link to app... Link to location03:43
Philip5BKaj: and then trash:/03:44
HobbseeEamon: 1.3.9, there are 1.4.1 packages available on kubuntu.org03:44
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alihow can set fn keys  sound inc or dec _03:44
ali?03:44
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BKajahh cool03:44
alifrom gnome was work but kubunutu is not use fn keys for sound03:45
BKajdone03:45
alihow can I do?03:45
Jack1can so help?03:45
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aliyes I want help03:45
Jack1the klaptop battery icon disappears from kicker though it is configured to be shown..03:46
Jack1it is displayed for a while then it goes away03:46
HobbseeJack1: did you happen to run suspend or hibernate on it?03:46
Philip5BKaj: did it work?03:46
alinot ist not worked03:47
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Jack1Hobbsee not deliberately..maybe it did i saw it swithching black to another mode..maybe that was it03:47
BKajyes Philip5 , it did , thx :)03:47
Jack1Hobbsee is this connected?03:47
Philip5BKaj: good :)   and np03:47
HobbseeJack1: could well have been.  klaptopdaemon is rather a pile of rubbish, and kpowersave works way better.03:48
Jack1Hobbsee shall i get the latter via synaptic?03:48
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carlHi03:49
HobbseeJack1: yep03:49
carlI installed libxine-extracodecs, and I have no sound in amarok now, someone can help me with this?03:49
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BKajnow if i could just get swiftfox to launch as my default browser instead of Firefox , that would be VG too :)...I tried the commands suggested on the kubuntu help site for listing browser choices in the Konsole and making the choice , but Swiftfox wasn't listed even tho it's in the K-Menu .03:50
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HobbseeBKaj: isnt that set in system settings, kde components?03:52
Hobbseeunder default browser?03:52
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dj_baggio!eagle-usb03:53
ubotuI know nothing about eagle-usb03:53
Jack1Hobbsee Cannot open firmware file /etc/sane.d/esfw41.BIN03:53
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HobbseeJack1: um, okay?03:53
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Jack1Hobbsee i already tried with chmod to change the rights but it keeps telling me that03:53
BKajIt is Hobbsee, but that doesn't seem to work for some reason , that was the first action I tried03:53
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Hobbseehmmm03:54
Jack1Hobbsee that is the firmware for my scanner for xsane03:54
=== Hobbsee doenst know.
Hobbseeah03:54
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Jack1<Hobbsee> owner is still root and the locked symbol s on it03:55
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HobbseeJack1: are you running the commands as sudo?03:56
Hobbseewith sudo?03:56
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Jack1Hobbsee sudo chown johannes johannes /etc/sane.d/esfw41.bin03:57
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Jack1Hobbsee chown: cannot access `johannes': No such file or directory03:57
Jack1???03:57
HobbseeJack1: not johannes johannes - johannes.johannes03:57
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Jack1Hobbsee thx03:58
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admin_need help, installed kubuntu yesterday, anyone who's got a minute?04:01
Jack1Hobbsee regaining ownership works though xsane now says no devices available..probl need get the backends04:01
HobbseeJack1: that's likely, yeah04:02
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Hobbseeadmin_: just ask :)04:02
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admin_how do i install packages that i downloaded?04:02
=== Hobbsee isnt big and scary, and bites people
Hobbsee!apt-get04:02
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto - also see !synaptic (gnome) or !adept (kde)04:02
Hobbsee!adept04:02
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto04:02
Hobbseeadmin_: you probably want to check out those couple of links on how it all works - they've got pictures too, if i remember correctly, which is kinda useful04:03
admin_btw...i havent slept the whole night....LUV THE LINUX :P04:03
Hobbseehehe04:03
admin_but u'll probably see more of me in this chat...hihi04:03
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Philip5admin_: how should we take that? be scared? ;)04:04
Howitzeri have this mini mini mini guide for ktorrent04:05
admin_hope not ;)04:05
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Howitzeri discovered how to add a search engine called torrentsearch.us to the search function in ktorrent04:06
Howitzer(the url on the website is masked all the time with www.torrentsearch.us)04:06
Howitzershould i do anything with this?04:06
Howitzeror is it too irrelevant to devote attention to?04:07
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zorglu1damn i was all happy a min ago. i discovered wing++ and was under the impression it was allowing to code a window apps from linux... but no, it allow to compile a window apps on linux04:07
zorglu1aka it doesnt produce window code04:07
admin_hot-key for show desktop or minimize all?04:07
Howitzerzorglu1, you can04:08
Howitzertry DEV-CPP, linux interface guide and that thingy04:08
Howitzerehh04:08
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hastesaver_admin_, try Ctrl-Alt-D ? Win-D might also work, but usually doesn't (unless you set it up). In any case, it's in Control Centre --> Keyboard Shortcuts04:09
Howitzerto run a basic linux under windows04:09
zorglu1Howitzer:  oh? googleing04:09
Howitzerehm04:09
Howitzeraargh04:09
Howitzeri forgot the ame04:09
Howitzerit's something with a 'u'04:09
MDCorehaving trouble resizing my xp ntfs partition from the live CD. QTParted tells me " opening /dev/hda1 as NTFS failed: Operation not supported". What do I do to resize this partition? I need to dual-boot this machine :P04:09
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HowitzerCYGWIN04:10
Howitzerthat's it04:10
BKajIs the jabber client that I installed with synaptic the one inside Kopete or is it a stand alone ? If it;s stand alone , why won't it launch ?04:10
Howitzerno 'u' in it though -_-04:10
Jack1Hobbsee though both files are not owned by root it keeps telling me04:10
Jack1[snapscan]  Cannot open firmware file /etc/sane.d/esfw41.BIN.04:10
Jack1[snapscan]  Edit the firmware file entry in snapscan.conf.04:10
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mptAm I imagining things, or does Konqueror really not have a menu item for creating a new folder?04:13
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mpt(not a new bookmark folder, a new real folder)04:13
Philip5mpt: edit/create new/folder04:14
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Philip5mpt: or right-click in an empty space where you want it and select create new04:14
mptPhilip5, the Edit menu contains Copy, Paste Clipboard Contents, Delete, Copy Files..., Move Files..., Properties, and Selection04:14
mptthere's no "Create New"04:14
Philip5mpt: in mine there is04:14
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mptthat's odd04:15
Philip5mpt: if that's the case, yes04:15
mptI'll report a bug :-)04:16
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MDCoreany thoughts anyone on resizing for dualboot before installing?04:17
mptMDCore, I think it would probably be a good idea04:17
MDCore:)04:18
mpt:-P04:18
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MDCoreBut qtparted gives me an error when I try to do that :P04:18
mpt("So, Mr Gandhi, what do you think of Western civilization?")04:18
BKajmpt, right click on the desktop?04:19
mptBKaj, yes, but that's cheating, it's Nautilus rather than Konqueror doing that :-)04:20
BKajjust like windoze04:20
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BKajno matter it werks , right ?04:20
mptand I don't necessarily want the folder on the desktop (yes, yes, I know I could move it afterward)04:20
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senseiMDCore: "An error". And todays best description and help to be helped award goes tooooo...04:22
mptthanks for your answers Philip5, I reported bug 5209904:23
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mptsensei, http://www.google.com/search?q=%22died+for+some+reason%22+%22maybe+it+has+been+killed%2204:25
senseihaha04:27
sensei04:27
senseiops04:27
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Grommetis there a kubuntu repository with newer software like kde 3.5.3 and kvirc 3? I installed from the live dapper/drake x86_64 cd.04:32
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HobbseeGrommet: kvirc 3?  that exists?  cool!04:33
Hobbsee!kde3.5.304:33
ubotuThe latest version of KDE is 3.5.3, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php04:33
Grommetyeah, I am on 3.2 right now :)04:34
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gnomefreak3.2.0-5ubuntu1 is in universe the kde 3.5.3 nor the amarok repos has a newer version04:36
gnomefreak^^^ kvirc04:36
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Hobbseeah, kvirc should already be in repos04:37
Hobbseeeither under kvirc or kvirc2, i cant really tell.04:37
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gnomefreakits kvirc but i will try the other04:37
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gnomefreakkvirc2 = 1.3-3ubuntu104:38
gnomefreakim assuming they are not even close to the same?04:39
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Grommethow do I add the universe repository?04:39
Grommetit seems to be what I want04:40
gnomefreak!repos04:40
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource04:40
gnomefreakGrommet: follow that guide ;)04:40
VHockey86_workedit /etc/apt/sources.list04:40
Grommetthanks04:40
VHockey86_workor that :)04:40
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Grommetthat would work right now since I can access ubuntu dir but an currently in suse04:40
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gnomefreakGrommet: i would do it on ubuntu (not sure how that wouold work on suse)04:41
Grommetwell if I edit that file it will work and apt will have the repo when I boot to ubuntu :)04:42
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gnomefreakGrommet: you would have to run sudo apt-get update before ubuntu will have that repo04:44
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CntryboyDoes java come with kubuntu and konqueror, or will I need to download it?04:44
Grommetya04:45
gnomefreakCntryboy: need to install it from multiverse04:45
Grommetbut I just mean it would have it available04:45
Grommetnot have all of the software installed, I'd be silly to think that :)04:45
Cntryboygnomefreak: I already have the java app I downloaded for ubuntu on a disc I think04:45
gnomefreakGrommet: yes but copuldnt get packages from it04:45
gnomefreakCntryboy: i would hope not04:46
gnomefreakCntryboy: i have never seen java on disk04:46
Cntryboygnomefreak: I meant where I burned it04:46
pupeno-Can anybody help me troobleshoot my X configuration. It is really really slow (I can see text forming and scrolling like in the days of BBS at 2400 bps). The config is on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17343. This is an ATI card, built in on a Thinkpad T60 (not sure of the exact model).04:46
Cntryboybut I can't find it04:46
Cntryboysudo apt-get install java?04:46
gnomefreakCntryboy: sudo apt-get install sun-java-jre  from multiverse repo04:46
Cntryboyok04:47
arsowine "/mnt/hdb5/CS/CS 1.6.exe"04:47
arsoCould not run the specified command04:47
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Cntryboygnomefreak: do you know how to get nvclock working with the gui?04:47
Cntryboynvclock_gtk04:47
Cntryboyor something but can't remember04:47
gnomefreakCntryboy: nope04:47
gnomefreakbrb drink04:48
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Cntryboygnomefreak: I guess its not in my repos because I got E: blah blah blah04:49
Cntryboyfor java that is04:49
gnomefreakCntryboy: because you dont have multiverse repo enabled04:50
Cntryboyits okay its 16mb04:50
Cntryboytake all day with dialup04:50
Cntryboymultiverse repo should be enabled though, how can I check it04:50
Cntryboyi forgot source.list is04:50
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Cntryboyetc/apt04:50
Cntryboyi think04:50
Cntryboywhich line am I looking for in sources.list to see if mul. repo is enabled04:51
slow-motionhallo04:51
arsoany interesting progrram i should get , iam bored04:52
senseifrozen-bubble04:52
senseiCan easily steal an hour or two from you and your boss04:52
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gnomefreakits /etc/apt/sources.list04:52
arsosensei:  lol, k04:52
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arsowat is it exactly?04:53
RadiantFirefrozen-bubble?04:53
arsoya04:53
arsogame?04:53
RadiantFireyeah04:53
RadiantFireomg is addictive04:53
arsolol04:53
arsoi'll get it now04:53
RadiantFirelet it never be said there are on cool games for linux04:53
arsohaha cool04:54
arsoany other cool games?04:54
RadiantFiremmm...04:54
RadiantFirelet me think04:54
RadiantFireor rather search...04:54
Cntryboyfrozen-bubble? is that kinda like bounce out04:54
RadiantFirelil bit04:54
RadiantFirei was a bad kid once04:54
RadiantFireI brought my laptop to class once and played frozen-bubble when professor was being boring04:54
arsohaha04:55
arsosounds fun04:55
RadiantFirethere is a kinda cool rts called boson04:55
arsorts?04:55
RadiantFirebut its not very enjoyable04:55
RadiantFirereal time strategy04:55
RadiantFireit makes me think of red alert when I play it04:55
RadiantFirebut it don't like it much04:55
arsonot enjoyable? wats the point04:55
arso:P04:55
uuuubsdwhat's frozen bubble04:56
arsogame04:56
uuuubsdthe only good game is age of empire2conq04:56
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RadiantFirespeaking of rts04:57
arsowats "libc6-dev 2.3.6-0ubuntu20"04:57
senseiYou don't know what frozen bubble is, but you're sure there' only one good game?04:57
RadiantFirestarcraft might work pseudo-natively on linux now :-)04:57
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CyberMadhow to check open ports of an IP Address?04:58
uuuubsdsorry i don't play brain fart game, those games without thinking is boring04:58
Cntryboygo to a port checker site lol04:58
uuuubsdsuch as frozen bub04:58
arsothey should make a gaming distribution of linux that auto emulates anything or something04:58
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pupeno-CyberMad: nmap ip04:58
senseiIf you play frozen-bubble without thinking, I understand that you find it boring04:59
CyberMadthanks04:59
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RadiantFirei remember i said I would assist a project a whlie back that was gonna try and do a fully 3-d turn-based strategy game for linux, but that one died...04:59
arsolol04:59
RadiantFiresome genius dude wrote a whole bunch of code for an AI engine05:00
RadiantFireand then the whole project just stopped05:00
RadiantFireoh well05:00
Cntryboyradiantfire: I wish a game sorta like warzone2100 would come out for linux05:00
Cntryboygood option menu and good game play and a good research tech tree05:00
RadiantFireseriously though05:01
arsolol too bad05:01
RadiantFirefrozen bubble will keep me entertained on my next plane trip05:01
arsothats nice05:01
arsohow about a movie lol05:01
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RadiantFirecuz my laptop is sweet and has 6 hr battery life05:01
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RadiantFireI'm gonna watch the same movie 3 times? :-)05:02
RadiantFireanyway, I have to go do stuff before work05:02
RadiantFireI might commit suicide as well, cuz I hate my job05:02
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arsoloooool05:02
arsowat do u do?05:03
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arsou can watch 3  movies ;)05:03
RadiantFirei am a cashier at CompUSA05:03
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RadiantFiretoday I work from 1:30 - 9:0005:03
arsoi se05:03
arsothat sux05:03
Kevin_JimI have a problem05:03
RadiantFireso I'm gonna go to the gym now05:03
RadiantFirewhats your problem Kevin_Jim?05:03
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arsocool,energize05:03
Kevin_Jimi can open the *.deb files !05:03
RadiantFireperhaps when I get back I will do some hacknig05:04
senseiGet a pryer05:04
CyberMaddoes anyone know web based nmap? because i haven't install nmap in my linux..05:04
RadiantFireKevin_Jim: is that a problem?05:04
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RadiantFireKevin_Jim: you can open them in Ark sometimes05:04
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RadiantFireKevin_Jim: its not big deal05:04
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Kevin_Jimit say's Error ark - The utility is not in your PATH.05:04
cristian27come si configura xgl con kubuntu?05:05
RadiantFirethats odd05:05
RadiantFireit is installed by default05:05
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RadiantFireits probably just a glitch, but you don't need to open .deb files anyway05:05
RadiantFireyou can use install from the actions menu and that will work fine05:05
senseiecho $PATH in a shell05:05
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senseiThen slocate ark |grep bin05:05
ihopeSo my user name is ubuntu. That means my desktop is /home/ubuntu/Desktop, right?05:05
senseiSee if the paths matches05:05
senseiIf not, set it05:06
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Kevin_JimRadianFire: do what05:06
RadiantFireinstall, uninstall, w/e05:06
RadiantFireyou shouldn't be opening debs in ark anyway05:06
arsosensei:  iam trying "wine /mnt/hdb5/CS/CS 1.6.exe" but nothing is opening05:06
senseiHow weird.. could it be that wine doesn't do direcx ?05:07
senseiNor ogl05:07
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insanekaneKevin_Jim: sudo dpkg -i <the deb file>05:07
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senseiat least afaik05:07
arsosensei:  u tell me , i  donno any of this stuff05:07
senseiarso: You want cedega I think05:07
senseiOr windows.. w/e05:07
w1z4rdsorry to annoy the people here:  im trying to setup a remote desktop connection script to connect to servers i have to admin... and i want to create scripts to make it easier... how do i stipulate a username and password in the command line rd? I have tried rd -u myadminaccount -p mypassword myserver.co.za , and it doesnt seem to work05:07
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arsosensei:  cedega costs 5$ a month, i don  wanna pay that05:08
=== w1z4rd paid the $5 for cedega
w1z4rdits worth it05:08
senseiYeah, not everyone is into piracy *cough*05:08
arso:P05:08
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arsowonder if those who r found a way05:08
senseiMost likely05:09
w1z4rdcommon, $5 for been able to play most of the games you want is worth it, and when you give them $5 its $5 more to development for the next lot of games05:09
ihopeSo it seems that my desktop isn't reflecting changes in /home/ubuntu/Desktop.05:09
senseicedega are a**holes through and through05:09
senseiI'd gladly pirate their whole office.. with cannons05:09
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Jack1sensei do u know how i could rip cds faster?05:10
CyberMadw1z4rd better try VNC than remote desktop :)05:10
insanekanewhats cedega ? something like crossover ?05:10
senseiJack1: Get a faster cd reader05:10
w1z4rdCyberMad: i dont really have a choice, there are about 40 servers and about 5 admins05:10
w1z4rdim not allowed to install vnc :(05:10
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w1z4rdno worries, solved the problem05:12
arsoi hate cedega too05:12
arsoagainst the whole spirit of linux05:12
w1z4rdarso: open source is allowed to charge, so whats the basis of your argument?05:13
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senseiw1z4rd: The fact that they stole the whole fscking wine thing and has never given shite back, and charge money for what's largely someone elses job05:13
senseiOr "stole".. they used05:14
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w1z4rdsensei: i can get battlefield 2 running on cedega i can even play multi player.. just not on a ranked server thanks to punkbuster05:14
w1z4rdso they took something, and perfected it for gaming05:14
senseiI'm fully aware of cedegas capabilityes05:14
w1z4rdis that not the purpose for open source?05:14
arsoi agree with sensei05:14
w1z4rdso basicaly, you cant make  aprofit from open source?05:15
arsotake someones work make it better but not benefit from it05:15
w1z4rdis that the argument?05:15
senseiYEs05:15
arsoif its ur work ,make as much profit as u want05:15
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senseiI don't even mind them charging for it.. they could just share their technology with wine05:15
senseiJust as wine shared theirs with them05:16
insanekanemaybe, take someones work, improve it, share the profits and the code05:16
w1z4rdarso: tell you what, give me a free application i can game on, or write it, ill use it, until such time as you can, ill pay for software that can05:16
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w1z4rdjust the same as i use crossover for dreamweaver and adobe photoshop05:16
w1z4rdi dont mind paying for software, even open source software05:16
insanekanecrossover pays for wine devels05:16
arso*looks up crossover*05:17
w1z4rdinsanekane: cool, then that helps my karma points05:17
insanekanew1z4rd: maybe using cedega doesnt05:17
w1z4rdi think cedega should definitly be helping out wine then, if they dont... thats bad... but still, due to LACK of CHOICE I use them, and will continue to do so until there is an alternative. :/05:18
insanekanew1z4rd: you have a choice ... tell them to give improvements back05:18
insanekanew1z4rd: and/or write an alternative like cedega05:18
w1z4rdinsanekane: ok, ill do that, and then? insanekane, im not a coder so thats impossible for me05:19
w1z4rdwhich brings me back to "lack of choice"05:19
w1z4rdi wrote it in capitials incase you missed it the first time05:19
v3ctorget the free (not so fresh) version of cedega05:19
w1z4rdi dont mind paying $5 for a product, i just want to game :/05:20
senseiI suppose this breaks some kind of channel charter.. But IF I were to want to play games on a computer running Linux, I'd pirate cedega and donate $5 to wine every month05:20
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senseiIn theory.. 'cause I'd never pirate ;)05:20
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arsosensei:  i liked that lol05:21
insanekanew1z4rd: then, why don't you use windows ?05:21
w1z4rdsensei: lol, i have a purchased version if you wanna hack the code... for educational reasons only of coursE:>05:21
w1z4rdinsanekane: because, i dont have to, dont want to, and i luff my kde...05:21
senseiAlready got it, thanks... for educational reasons05:21
Jack1sensei i have on my notebook eg keys for silentmode..how ti activate that in kubuntu?05:22
insanekanew1z4rd: then you are seriously screwed up.05:22
arsoi want to learn too :D ;p;05:22
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w1z4rdsensei: if you need any help there... for educational reasons... im there hey... :P05:22
senseiJack1: Check out khotkeys05:22
senseior ACME05:22
w1z4rdinsanekane: thanks for judging me... ill be kinder to you and not return the favour05:22
arsoyo EDUCATE ME! lol05:22
senseiw1z4rd: Thanks :) Honestly I really don't know why I have it.. I never even play games o.O05:22
insanekanew1z4rd: you are free to do so. everyone judges everyone else ... or not.05:23
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w1z4rdsensei: yeah, lots of nix okes dont game :/05:23
w1z4rdinsanekane: ure welcome to judge, i couldnt be bothered :/ i just wanna be able to game on linux.. .the same way i paid for battlefield2 the game, is the same way ill support any software that lets me play it online :/05:25
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insanekanew1z4rd: ah yes, the linear thinker05:25
w1z4rdim definitly not linear insanekane, wish i could think like that sometimes :/05:26
arsosensei:  can u help me out with that cedega key?05:26
insanekanew1z4rd: it sure as hell looks like you are05:26
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lucas_hi. i have connected my motorola l6 cel phone to a usb port, but it is not recognized. + the drivers are for windows >-( how can i solve this? (i dont wanna run windows).05:27
insanekanei mean, why wouldn't you pay $5 to wine devels to make cedega ?05:27
arsowow ur still on it05:27
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vakahow can i reload the fonts in ~/.font?05:28
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sponixdo I have to install a screensaver package with kubuntu ?05:29
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w1z4rdinsanekane: as i just said... i want to game. i dont have an alternative :/ what part of that is hard to comprehend?05:29
w1z4rdsponix: sudo apt-get install xscreensaver ?05:29
nnn0cedega sux :)05:29
sponixw1z4rd:  dpkg --get-selections show I have it installed, but I don't have any screen savers kicking on05:30
insanekanew1z4rd: you do have an alternative ... pay the $5 per month to the wine devels05:30
w1z4rdi heard the was an arguement with people who use KDE.. apparently KDE has some liscence issues that the general linux public dont like....whats the comment on that?05:30
w1z4rdinsanekane: i donate about $30 a month to wine dev... i fail to see where you are going with this...05:31
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insanekanew1z4rd: that was a long time ago ... the arguments were created by people like you who just dont get it05:31
w1z4rdinsanekane: i dont even know the arguments05:31
w1z4rdgod dammit05:31
insanekanew1z4rd: well thats a good thing. I'm glad you do donate.05:31
w1z4rdi dont have time for kids05:31
w1z4rdlater05:31
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nnn0insanekane, shut up please05:31
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kkathmananyone here using Firefox to manage RSS feeds?05:32
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senseiWonder if AA can help me.. lvl 46 on frozen-bubble05:32
soulriderhi everyone05:32
grizzlyI need a cdwriting app ( gui OR cli ) that would kind of auto-multisession. i.e I just want never to close/fixate the cd05:32
insanekanennn0: want to hear a story of someone who came on this channel, asked for my help, got it, and when I asked him to vote for a bug in Kubuntu (which would fix his original problem), he just wouldnt do it saying "oh, i would have to register at launchpad to do that" ?05:33
grizzlyk3b works but multisession has to selected manually everytime.05:33
nnn0i said please :)05:33
insanekanegrizzly: for me, i never have to05:33
senseigrizzly: cdrecord I suppose05:33
insanekanegrizzly: the selection called "automatic" does automatically select multisession if it is possible with the specific media05:34
grizzlyinsanekane: Thanks for the news I'll try another cd-rw.05:35
Jack1sensei can i ask u sth05:35
Jack1?05:35
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morrowaendert ja nix :)05:35
insanekanegrizzly: again, so far it has always worked for me. ymmv05:35
senseiJack1: Didn't you just do that ?05:35
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vakahow can i reload the fonts in ~/.font?05:36
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Jack1lsusb gives me Bus 001 Device 013: ID 04b8:0121 Seiko Epson Corp. sensei yes lol05:36
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v3ctoradd fonts with konqueror and you don't have to worry about reloading05:36
senseivaka: xset fp rehash05:36
Jack1sensei scanimage -L finds the scanner05:36
insanekanevaka: fc-cache -f05:36
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insanekanevaka: but you will need to reload your apps to make it truly work accross the desktop05:37
rjbhmmm is it just me, or is www.weatheronline.co.uk blocking access by firefox? could anyone verify?05:37
rjb(please?)05:37
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Jack1sensei just when i do the xsane & failed to open device"snapscan:libusb:001:013" invalid argment05:37
WandererAnyone know about using kopete and logigng conversations?05:38
Jack1it is so weird i pointed in then snapscan.conf to the right firmware location and the esfw41.bin is the genuine windows one sensei05:38
senseiJack1: Unless I know the answer from the top of my head, I don't do printer and/or scanner issues without getting paid.. just too boring/time consuming05:39
senseiSorry05:39
Jack1sensei can understand right05:40
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soulriderthis will sound horribly noobish, but im downloading hava 5 update 7, and its a bin file.. how do i install it :-/05:41
senseiI just hang here to improve my karma to get out of hell for lauging at that retarded kid for three years in grammar school :/05:41
dergringolooking for a repository that offers amarok 1.4.105:41
Bazzidergringo: kubuntu.org05:41
v3ctordergringo: the standard repo has it i believe05:42
dergringoBazzi: thx05:42
dergringov3ctor: no but it can be downloaded from this repo: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141 dapper main05:43
insanekanesensei: you offer support for money ?05:43
v3ctorok...i have it and i don't have that repo ;)05:43
senseiJack1: Remember that that isn't necessarely a kubuntu specific question, there's #linuxhelp and ##Linux  as well05:43
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senseiAnd if you're good, just about any distro channel would do.. just pretend you've done everything from source05:44
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arsoloool05:44
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larson9999hmmm, vlc won't save a playlist for me05:45
Jack1sensei right i was looking the linux forums05:45
Jack1sensei its difficult05:45
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senseiYeah, either that or really simple :) One can never know05:46
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larson9999silly me, i was expecting it to append the extension for me.05:48
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larson9999pretty interesting that the extension isn't added automatically but the drop down used to open playlists doesn't have an 'all files' option06:01
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naranhakann man ein dist-upgrade zu edgy machen, ohne dass das komplette system zerschossen wird :)?06:11
v3ctor!de06:12
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ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de06:12
naranhasorry06:12
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h3sp4wnnaranha: Have you already done the dist-upgrade to edgy or do you want to know whether you can ?06:13
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naranhai'm doing it right now, i can still press ctrl + c ;)06:13
h3sp4wnkde seems to be working ok at the moment in edgy06:14
h3sp4wnonly kde and kdeartwork seems to be broken but thats not too important06:14
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Jack1 /j #linux06:15
naranhaokay i'll try it.. i just want the newest versions of the apps im using06:15
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h3sp4wnnaranha: What apps ?06:16
naranhaall of them :)06:16
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naranhai've been using the dapper repository since the beginning of that year, it worked fine too06:17
h3sp4wnSome stuff will break - You won't be able to boot the 2.6.17 kernels from the repos without changing some device names (i.e hda becomes sda)06:17
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DaSkreechh3sp4wn: What do you mean only KDe seems to be broken?06:19
larson9999edgy is too edgy for me06:19
h3sp4wnDaSkreech: The meta-package kde06:19
DaSkreechAh ok that's a little more reasonable06:19
Toweringis there a way to encrypt in konversation?06:19
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naranhaokay maybe i wait a little more with the update :)06:21
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sspmetalhello06:22
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grizzlycdrecord  driveropts=burnfree  dev=/dev/hdc 896_cam_3.mov  - this works , but the cd isn't readable anymore06:23
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grizzlymount -t iso9660 gives wrong filesystem specified erro06:24
grizzlyAnybody is my cdrecord command correct?06:25
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CzarAlex``I currently run Kubuntu but would like to install XCFE and have it as an option for a desktop manager when I log in to the system. What do I need to apt-get install to run Kubuntu with XCFE as an option?06:27
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milohi06:27
grizzlyCzarAlex``: just install aptitude xfce-dexktop or something06:27
grizzlythe option to choose would be automatic I guess06:28
ninHerhi all06:28
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ToweringI like using Konversation, but don't seem to see any support in encryption for it, is there such a program for encryption to use in channels that use encryption?06:28
CzarAlex``grizzly, sounds simple enough.06:29
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sspmetalsomeone know where i can take drivers for my geforce 7600GT?06:30
sensei!nvidia06:30
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:30
noaXess_kubuntu!mp306:30
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:30
sspmetal!nvidia06:30
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:30
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sspmetalthanks06:31
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sspmetali have kubuntu... why i don't have the  Synaptic Package Manager?06:33
sspmetali need it for the video drivers06:34
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v3ctoryou don't *need* it06:34
pupenosspmetal: adept is the default package manager for kubuntu.06:34
Blissexsspmetal: you don't need it, it is just a nicer version of 'apt-get'06:34
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sspmetalbut in the HowTo it says i need it06:34
senseiYeah, everything on the internet is true and black & white06:35
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tuzaHi guys, I have a question06:35
zorglu1!qemu06:35
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo06:35
senseiYou can 'modify' most guides out there.. and still get it working06:35
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sspmetali'm very newbie with linux, i don't know how install drivere06:36
noaXess_kubuntu!ati06:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:36
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tuzai'm running gentoo 64bits right now, and I want to switch to kubuntu, but at the same time i've heard that kubuntu has lots of compatibilities issues, and more at 64bits06:36
senseisspmetal: Unless you'e a newbie with English as well, I'm sure you'll be alright with the guide06:37
tuzais it likely to find troubles running kubuntu at 6406:37
h3sp4wntuza: If you are not bothered about flash you should be ok06:37
sspmetalbut in the guide it says that i need the synaptic manager06:37
senseisspmetal: Either find another way of doing it, or find another guide06:37
senseiOr get synaptic06:38
v3ctorsudo aptitude install nvidia-glx06:38
v3ctorsudo nvidia-glx-config enable06:38
v3ctorthat is what i get from that guide06:38
tuzah3sp4wn: yes, i bother about flash....isn't that possible?06:39
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sensei:)06:39
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pupenoOk, it seems the free ones doesn't work at all, the packaged ones are dead-slow (even for scrolling text) and the ati.com's one, althought they have 2d acceleration, 3d acceleration doesn't work (unable to load dri) and the cursor in the second display is a big blue square... if anybody has an idea, I'd like to read it.06:40
senseiRadiantFire: Bully :(06:40
h3sp4wntuza: There is no 64 bit version of flash you can either have a 32bit chroot, not worry about it or try to use the free implimentation06:40
ninHerwell, this is not correct06:40
ninHerread this: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/06:41
tuzathanks06:41
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senseininHer: That would be "the free implementation"06:42
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h3sp4wnCurrently Gnash is under heavy development and although many features work, not all movies play sucessfully06:42
ninHerbut it works more than acceptable06:42
ninHerat least in my kubuntu dapper 64b06:43
ninHersensei:  of course.......free software06:43
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sspmetali have downloaded synaptic_0.57.8ubuntu11_i386.deb , how can i install it?06:46
h3sp4wnsspmetal: you should just install it with sudo apt-get install synaptic06:46
sspmetalthank you very much06:46
sspmetalit doesn't work :(06:48
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sensei!doesntwork06:48
ubotuI know nothing about doesntwork06:48
senseiThere should really be that car repair shop analogy there06:48
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sspmetalsomeone know if exist an all-in-one debian package that include all libraries?06:53
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nico8481anyone using a Level One WBR-3407A?06:53
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senseinico8481: Most likely several thousand people06:55
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sspmetali have installed some libs but it says they are not configured... :(07:01
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senseisspmetal: Come on07:04
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senseiTreat us as if we're a service station for your car. Now if your trunk won't close. Do you simply walk up to them and say "My car doesn't work. I tried duct tape, but it wouldn't stick" and then leave?07:04
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senseiOr would you say "MY trunk is broken, the holding pin is bent, I tried taping it together but it didn't stick." ?07:05
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sspmetal??07:05
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Pupeno!ati07:06
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:06
senseiAnd so yet another piece of my belief in humanity died07:06
Pupeno!nvidia07:06
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UtenteHi I have an IbookG4 with kubunu installed.. It seems that my cpu works at 600Mhz when my processor can work at 1.2 ghz... I'm in wrong?07:06
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senseiUtente: It's powernow07:08
sspmetali have launch the command sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx07:08
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senseiIt's a good thing, it throttles the CPU down when it's not in use to save battery etc07:08
ninHeraway07:09
sspmetalbut when i launch sudo nvidia-glx-config enabl07:09
sspmetalbut when i launch sudo nvidia-glx-config enable07:09
sspmetalit says that the command is wrong :(07:09
sspmetalplease help me07:10
UtenteSo, my system is well configured :-/07:10
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senseiUtente: Why the :-/ ?07:10
UtenteI'm not sure07:10
Utentehow can I monitor the cpu frequency?07:11
MidMarkguys, vlc for ubuntu is streaming enabled?07:11
MidMarkcannot make it work07:11
Toweringok, are there drivers for mice support? i have an ms mouse explorer with dual tilt wheel...07:11
senseitop for CLI and gkrellm for GUI07:11
h3sp4wnsudo nvidia-xconfig enable (try that)07:11
h3sp4wnsspmetal: ^^07:11
senseiBut I think there's a system performance tool in the menus somewhere07:11
sspmetalsudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found07:11
sspmetal:((07:11
RadiantFiresspmetal: here is what you can do07:12
RadiantFirekdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:12
RadiantFirethen do a search for "nv"07:12
RadiantFireand replace it with "nvidia"07:12
RadiantFiresspmetal: you have to actually have nvidia-glx installed07:12
sspmetalFailed to open device07:12
sspmetalX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16607:12
UtenteIs there a way to manually set up the cpu frequency?07:13
senseiUtente: Why do you want to do that ?07:14
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senseiBut sure, you can twiddle with the files in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/07:15
Utentefor example, if I want to work at full speed everytime :-)07:15
senseiUtente: You don't want that07:15
senseiAs soon as it needs full speed, it'll get full speed07:15
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MidMarkguys, vlc for ubuntu is streaming enabled?07:18
UtenteSorry for my question.. but I used an old kernel that it dosen't switch to the high frequency..07:18
senseiMost apps can do streaming, haven't tried VLC but I can't see why it shouldn't07:18
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MidMarksensei: yes but I cannot make it works... someone that uses vlc as streaming server'07:19
MidMark?07:19
UtenteI have another question...07:19
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zorglu1MidMark: extensive doc on the vlc web site07:20
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UtenteMy cpu fan seems to work very fast a for minutes compared to MacOSX07:20
MidMarkzorglu1: yes, read it07:20
sysrpli am having a problem with kde where when i create folders or files on my desktop using terminal they don't appear in the gui until i add or a remove an item through the gui07:20
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sysrpldoes anyone know anything about that?07:21
zorglu1MidMark: well i already did it. i dont remember it tho. but the example in the doc were working07:21
senseiUtente: Could it be the throttling issue? :)07:22
UtenteWhere can I set up the fun speed and temperature limit?07:22
Utente:-)07:22
senseiI told you earlier07:22
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BlissexUtente: for the fun speed that's usually done with brighly colored pills :-)07:23
senseihah07:23
Utente:-)07:24
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BlissexUtente: trying to understand what you are saying...07:24
BlissexUtente: you cannot control the speed of most fans. They have a builtin temp sensors and that drives the speed.07:25
BlissexUtente: what you can do is to run a CPU speed governor or dmon that controls the speed and thuse the temp of the CPU.07:25
Utenteok..07:26
MidMarkzorglu1: I open on vlc with http and port 1234, then client open http://my_ip:1234 but connection refused07:26
MidMarkI have a router, butI have opened port 123407:26
h3sp4wnYou can get fan controllers that can be controlled by i2c-etc07:26
senseiMidMark: UDP ?07:26
MidMarksensei: what?07:27
dr_willisi thought you connected to the  VLC servers with the VLC program on other machines.. not a web browser07:27
senseiMidMark: For whuch protocol have you opened your router ?07:27
zorglu1i hate window... im trying to find the install cd via p2p system because those *GSF?!@@?># didnt even gave me the cd when i bought my laptop on which i have been forced to buy a window license07:27
MidMarkdr_willis: of course open stream on vlc client not browser07:27
zorglu1MidMark: do telner myaip 123407:27
MidMarksensei: tcp and udp07:27
zorglu1telnet07:27
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dr_willisbe cool if ya coudl just http: to the thing. :P but ive not messed with vlc screaming much.07:28
MidMarkzorglu1: connection refudes07:28
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zorglu1MidMark: so the issue is in the server07:29
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MidMarkzorglu1: I have to open only for tcp?07:29
h3sp4wnMidMark: I take it you are testing from outside your network ?07:29
zorglu1MidMark: either firewall or actual server listening addr07:29
zorglu1MidMark: i dunno07:29
MidMarkh3sp4wn: no, I have to do this?07:29
Blissexzorglu1: Microsoft gives a discount to manufacturers who don't include an install disk, because that often forces the customer to buy a second copy of MS Windows.07:29
zorglu1Blissex: im not surprised :)07:30
zorglu1Blissex: i got 2 license of xp and no cd :)07:30
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zorglu1im *forced* to support windows as it remain 95% of the market... but i so fucking hate it :)07:30
Blissexzorglu1: that's exactly the goal.07:31
Snake[Sleep] zorglu1: ya it sucks07:31
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zorglu1and so many people got copy that having a .iso via p2p is not that easy :)07:31
Blissexzorglu1: the license says that an OEM license is motherboard specific, so if you upgrade the PC or the motherboards, you must buy a new license. To prevent you from taking your existing license and reinstalling on the upgraded PC, MS gives a discount if the install media are not provided.07:32
MidMarkh3sp4wn: yes connection refused07:32
Snake[Sleep] Blissex: thats not entirly true, you can call up MS and they will give you a new key07:32
zorglu1Blissex: well i guess that running window via qemu wont work then :) :)07:32
MidMarkwhat can be?07:32
BlissexSnake[Sleep] : no, thats specifically forbidden by the OEM license. Only if you have the retail license.07:33
zorglu1i havent run window in the last 8 years and fuck i hate to come back :)07:33
MidMarkKubuntu has no firewall isn't?07:33
Blissexzorglu1: thats illegal...07:33
Snake[Sleep] Blissex: Hmmmmmm..... weird.07:33
user- i just bought a win computer07:33
Toweringspeaking of firewall, any recommendations for a firewall to use on kubuntu?07:34
user- coz of linux sound fuckups07:34
v3ctoriptables07:34
Snake[Sleep] Towering: Learn how to use iptables07:34
user- fukin yech07:34
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Snake[Sleep] !language07:34
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:34
Toweringok07:34
BlissexSnake[Sleep] : ahhhh MS licensing is more than weird. For example it is illegal to run any program compiled with Visual Studio on a non Microsoft OS. Same for MS Office. This is to make it illegal to run it under VMware or QEMU or WINE.07:34
user- sowwy07:34
Snake[Sleep] Blissex: Fun stuff lol07:34
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BlissexTowering: belay that!07:42
BlissexTowering: DON'T learn to use 'iptables', because that usually takes a couple of years.07:42
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v3ctoryou can always use an iptables frontend like guardog07:43
BlissexTowering: I have done a small list of firewall builders here: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linuxFwConfig.html07:43
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Toweringok, thanks07:47
Toweringi think i missed something in configuring konversation.. it gives error when clicking on links to open up to firefox07:47
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Toweringok, fixed that07:48
ampihello everybody07:49
omeowTowering: I made a wiki page for that; http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/Browsers_and_Konversation07:50
gatekeeperevening07:50
squillahia all07:50
squillaproblem I have with an Apple iBook07:50
squillais there a more appropriate #?07:51
Toweringi said i fixed that.. thx anyway07:51
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Midspeedhi everybody07:51
apolsquilla: what's your prob?07:51
Blissexsquilla: probably #Ubuntu-PPC or something like that, if it is an older PPC iBook07:52
squillaI got my cd's from shipit - so I have to go with "live" and then install once live is booted right?07:52
apolright07:52
Midspeedi have a little problem here, i have kubuntun 6.06 and windows xp installed under one hard drive, i want to be able to delete and modify files on my windows partition from linux, but it doesnt allow me to do that, and it wont let me change the darn permissions and im the root :'(07:52
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gatekeeperomeow: someone was hasing trouble in here yesterday with modifying the default browser from konqueror to Firefox using Thunderbird seen that problem before just out of curiousity?07:53
squillathe install proceeds fine but eventually the cd stops being accessed and I'm left with a flashng cursor top left and no way to access a console, no desktop, nada07:53
BlissexMidspeed: except by using special methods you can only read, but not write, NTFS filesystems.07:54
apoland if you reboot does it boot?07:54
Midspeedoh ok, thanks blissex, thats bad news for me :'( ok thanks07:54
omeowgatekeeper: How where they trying to change it?07:54
omeowVia konversation or via the kde components menu?07:54
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BlissexMidspeed: however look for ''Captive NTFS'' or ''FUSE NTFS''07:55
gatekeeperMidspeed: Xandos is the only distro that I know that claims to let you modify stuff on NTFS partitions, most of the time I believe it is fairly lethal07:55
squillano booting does naught07:55
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omeowgatekeeper: The default custom browser string that comes with kubuntu is invalid and causes pages to not load correctly.07:55
Toweringand i have yet to test out ubunut... really liking kubuntu07:55
gatekeeperomeow: I suggested the method outlined in your Wiki, but apparently it didn't do the trick07:56
apolsquilla, are you spanish?07:56
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omeowgatekeeper: What didn't work? And which browser?07:56
squillaapol: no :-D07:56
apolok07:56
squillaapol:cape town, south african english ....07:57
apolwell07:57
squillaapol: why?07:57
apolxDDD, sorry07:57
apolyou said "nada" to say nothing07:57
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apolI'm sorry07:57
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apolwell07:57
squillaapol: I can't get to the install stage, if I could , or even if I could just get a console it'd be an improvement07:57
slow-motionre07:57
apolwhy don't you try to install it with the installation cd instead of the live cd?07:58
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squillaapol:the keys are odd too - have to use apple+Fn+F*07:58
squillaapol: the installation cd is the live cd07:58
gatekeeperomeow: Thunderbird apparently kept using Konquerer as the default browser, and changing the default browser in system settings apparently did not give the guy what he wanted, don't know if he ever fixed it07:58
squillaapol: sadly07:58
apolyou have another07:58
apollet me see, 1 mom07:58
squillaapol: k07:59
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squillaapol: I may have to download the alternate cd :-(08:00
apolthere is (on the web" the alternate cd08:00
apolI installed with it on my macmin08:01
apoli08:01
apoli didnt use the livecd08:01
apolit should work BTW08:01
apolyou could send the bug at the launchpad08:01
squillaapol: I think I'll try once more with "rescue" - to get to a console08:01
squillaapol: it may just be the machine - it's not mine - I'm bartering services08:02
gatekeeperomeow: Thunderbird used Konquerer as the default browser he wanted it to use Firefox instead when clicking on a URL in thunderbird08:02
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squillaapol: :-D08:02
apolrescue mode doesn't make the usual installation sadly08:02
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squillaapol: back later - cheers08:04
apolsquilla: :)08:04
zorglu1hmm running a kubuntu live cd under qemu kubuntu seems to make it fails on 'kde is up on running'08:05
arsohow do i become superuser or root or watever please? wats the command08:05
h3sp4wnomeow: Look at prefs.js 'user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.http", "/opt/firefox/firefox");' works (in .thunderbird don't know whether that is what you need to do)08:05
omeowgatekeeper: That's a known bug in Thunderbird, you can change that via the config editor.08:05
arso*URGENT*08:05
zorglu1it goes quite far tho :)08:05
arsozorglu1:  help!08:05
omeowI was talking about konversation by the way.08:05
zorglu1arso: man stop begging :)08:05
omeowh3sp4wn: I know already. :)08:05
arso:P08:05
arsoi am i na hurry08:05
omeowIn a hurry for what?08:06
arsofor leaving08:06
arsoneed to sign in as root08:06
abattoirarso: sudo08:06
omeowwhich groups is the user in?08:06
h3sp4wnarso: sudo -i08:06
omeowIf you're not in the admin group (I think) you can't sudo.08:06
abattoirarso: if you want to 'become' the super user, sudo su08:06
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h3sp4wnabattoir: sudo -i not sudo su08:07
omeowabattoir: ohmgz that was lethal according to someone.08:07
arsogetting access denied08:07
omeow(sudo su worked fine for me)08:07
arsowhen i try to paste anything into08:07
arsoone of my partitions08:07
arsoits ext308:07
abattoirh3sp4wn, omeow: oh really, i use it all the time... ok sudo -i it is :)08:07
arsothe drive doesnt show up on windows too , all the other partitions do08:08
arsowith fs driver08:08
arsoso somethings up with this partition08:08
arsoand i cant paste into it08:08
arsowtf,08:08
apolarso: ntfs can't be modified, its readonly08:08
apolAFAIK08:09
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arsodude its EXT308:09
h3sp4wnabattoir: 'su' and 'su -' should be different (have environment variables set differently) but I think su works in strange way on dapper - 'sudo -s' and 'sudo -i' are the sudo equivalants - but only use sudo -s if you know the differences - sudo -i most of the time is best08:10
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abattoiroh ok, thanks for the info :)08:11
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squillaarso: "sudo bash" - at your own risk and I never told you08:11
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jerome_!qemu08:13
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo08:13
SpAwNhello all im trying to install cedeag again....but this time its asking for a dependency which is xlibs where can i find this dep?08:13
SpAwNcedega depends on xlibs (>> 4.1.0); however:08:14
SpAwN  Package xlibs is not installed.08:14
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escayhallo zusammen08:15
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squilla!cedega08:16
ubotucedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega08:16
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squilla!ibook08:16
ubotuI know nothing about ibook08:16
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uniqsquilla: what's your ibook problem?08:16
escayhi all, is there a german kubuntu channel on this server?08:17
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v3ctor!de08:17
h3sp4wn!de08:17
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:17
uniqescay: try !kubuntu-de08:17
uniqehm.. #kubuntu-de08:17
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escaythx08:17
SpAwNhmm i cant get xlibs to instal08:19
v3ctorsudp aptitude install xlibs08:19
SpAwNi woulda thought seience its a *.deb it would install08:19
HawkwindSpAwN: http://LinuxForDummies.org/ and look in the Kubuntu section.  I've dcoumented that error you are getting08:19
SpAwNHawkwind: oh realy nice man =D08:19
HawkwindSpAwN: Ohhh, different error, nevermind08:19
SpAwNHawkwind: doh!08:19
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SpAwNlol08:19
v3ctortease08:19
squillauniq: I only have the new dapper cdwith the graphical installer08:20
squillauniq: the disk boots, etc etc but never gives me  agui or console and I can't seem to use alt+f? to get to a console08:20
SpAwNv3ctor: http://pastebin.ca/8067608:20
uniqsquilla: ah.. livecd not working. Only suggestion i can give is to try the alternate cd.08:21
squillauniq: bugger - download a whole image fr a guy I only met today?08:21
SpAwNv3ctor: will that mess anything up if i remove the cedega package...using that commans08:21
squillauniq: nah ..... :-/08:22
v3ctordoes cedega work?08:22
SpAwNwell...yes and no08:22
uniqsquilla: you can try to rsync it, and probably save some downloadtime.08:22
HawkwindSpAwN: Get rid of Cedega.  If Windows is the best tool for the job, then use it08:22
SpAwNi did a diff solution last time...where i took out the xlib depdenancy in the deb08:22
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v3ctorSpAwN: can't say for sure what will break08:22
SpAwNand one game still wont work..........so i figured id try this08:22
v3ctorif anything08:22
SpAwNv3ctor: whats the worst case scenerio08:23
zorglu1hmm ok definitly isnt working08:23
h3sp4wnSpAwN: Taking the xlib dependancy out of the deb is alot cleaner solution08:23
SpAwN....like total system failure08:23
v3ctordoubt there would be total system failure ;)08:23
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SpAwNh3sp4wn: i did that.....and well....its making me think thats whats causing the game noit to work08:23
SpAwNi have tried everything else....08:24
SpAwNor i think i have08:24
h3sp4wnSpAwN: That will not be it08:24
h3sp4wnSpAwN: xlibs are still there the package has just been renamed08:24
zorglu1qemu+kqemu doenst seems to interact well with my kubuntu. i try boot a kubuntu live cd with qemu and after a while the whole os, base + emulated are frozen. up to capslock no more working and the sound ofthe base os being stopped08:24
h3sp4wnzorglu1: Are you using qemu 0.81 ?08:24
zorglu1h3sp4wn: yep, the binary version from the qemu website08:25
SpAwNhmm well this sucks....i thought this was gonna be the fix i needed :/08:25
escayive got a problem with the sound output to my subwoofer and center speaker. the 4 smaller speakers are working. using a nforce2 onboardsound. already tried all the settings in kmix but still it doesnt work. clue anyone?08:25
zorglu1h3sp4wn: maybe some gcc issue tho... i tried to compiled it at first and it say 'i got trouble with gcc4, use gcc3.3'08:25
zorglu1h3sp4wn: so if the abi is incompatible... i may be the reason08:26
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h3sp4wnzorglu1: I used the deb-src lines for debian sid08:26
Pupeno!ati08:26
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:26
zorglu1h3sp4wn: moreover it goes quite far in the boot, aka up to the livecd displaying 'kde is up and running'08:26
squillauniq: make an iso on my drive of the livecd and rsync that?08:26
Towering!ms08:26
ubotuI know nothing about ms08:26
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omeowNow where was this extension that allowed me to dock thunderbird in the tray? =/08:26
Toweringhmm08:26
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zorglu1h3sp4wn: ok will try08:26
omeowI can't find it at all. And I've used it before.08:27
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h3sp4wnzorglu1: There is some like bios'es (for sparc and mac) that I just installed the sid deb's for but I just used debuild -uc -us for the rest of it and it worked fine08:27
uniqsquilla: yes.08:27
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v3ctoromeow: kdocker?08:28
uniqsquilla: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/my.iso and rename my.iso to whatever is the name of the alternative install iso, and rsync that.08:28
omeowv3ctor: Will that show me when thunderbird has new mail?08:28
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squillauniq: that is rocking my guy - I will give it a bash - thanks muchly08:29
v3ctorno idea08:29
v3ctori use kmail08:29
squillauniq:*thinks* it won't end up larger than a cd image?08:30
MrObvious!tell MrObvious about lm-sensors08:30
ubotuI know nothing about lm-sensors08:30
MrObvious!tell MrObvious about sensors08:30
ubotuI know nothing about sensors08:30
MrObvious:|08:30
escay!sound08:30
ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems08:30
PupenoCan I expect to have a relative good performance with the pre-packaged fglrx ? by that I mean, as well as vesa (but with higher resolution and xinerama).08:31
escay!nvidia08:31
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:31
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escay!nforce08:31
ubotuI know nothing about nforce08:31
MrObvious!tell MrObvious about lmsensors08:31
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ubotuI know nothing about lmsensors08:31
uniqsquilla: no, rsync will take care of that.08:31
escay!nforce208:31
ubotuI know nothing about nforce208:31
squillauniq: I have learned - thanks dude - could fix broken downloaded disk images this way too, yes?08:32
uniqsquilla: sure, rsync is cool. You just need a rsync server to download from. You can't download from webservers.08:33
squillauniq: ok then - later - I must rsync now ... and get some ice cream and choc sauce too :-D08:34
uniqsquilla: if it helps: releases.ubuntu.com::releases/kubuntu/dapper/kubuntu-6.06-alternate-powerpc.iso08:35
scott___what is the best/most/easily customisable dock applet for superkaramber?>08:35
scott___karamba08:35
uniqsquilla: that's for rsync.08:35
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squillauniq: ta08:36
MrObviousHow do I set up lm-sensors?08:36
zorgluuuq. how do i stop kterminal to \beep all the time ?08:36
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MrObviousThe command sensors-detect doesn't work like in Mandriva.08:36
MrObviouspaul@upstairs:~$ sudo sensors-detect08:36
MrObviousNo i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.08:36
HawkwindMrObvious: Ummm read the forum/wiki post you showed me08:38
HawkwindMrObvious: You don't need to setup lm-sensors for gkrellm to use it08:38
MrObviousI lost it.08:39
MrObviousBesides the temp module in E17 needs lm-sensors.08:39
Hawkwindwiki.ubuntu.com and search for Sensor08:39
MrObviousI did08:40
MrObvious:|08:40
HawkwindAhhh, the temp module is about to go bye-bye08:40
MrObviousAhh found it08:40
MrObviousHawkwind: It is? :|08:40
MrObviousThey got something better?08:40
HawkwindNo.  It's going away08:40
HawkwindMrObvious: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto08:41
MrObviousOh better08:41
MrObviousYeah found it now.08:41
MrObvious:|08:41
MrObvious!tell MrObvious about sensor08:41
ubotuI know nothing about sensor08:41
MrObvious:|08:41
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Hawkwind!sensors08:42
ubotuI know nothing about sensors08:42
h3sp4wn!lmsensors08:43
ubotuI know nothing about lmsensors08:43
uniq!sensors is <reply> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto08:43
ubotuI'll remember that08:43
HawkwindAhhh, thanks uniq :)08:43
uniq:)08:43
HawkwindLOL the bot has me on ignore.  I tried too many triggers too quick08:43
uniq!lmsensors is <alias> sensors08:43
ubotuI'll remember that08:43
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MrObviousLmao08:44
omeowThe bot needs the apache spelling module installed. =P08:44
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omeowOr some sort of suggestion when the used trigger is close, but not quite right.08:44
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PupenoWhich would you say is a better bet, the pre-packaged Ati drivers or the ati.com's one for a Radeon x1300 ?08:47
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HawkwindPupeno: Nvidia :P08:47
jimmy__kubuntu newbie just installed08:48
MrObviousActually I heard some Radeon drivers come better supported than NVidia.08:48
PupenoHawkwind: I don't think an nvidia driver would work with an Ati card. If you know how to do it and it works better than the ati driver, then, please, tell me. Otherwise I am not interested. Thnk you.08:48
HawkwindI never mentioned the word 'driver'  I mentioned Nvidia, as in get yourself an Nvidia card :P08:49
squillauniq: is there an rsync server for ubuntu-alternate-powerpc?08:49
HawkwindPupeno: I'd use the pre-packaged stuff08:49
MrObviouslol08:49
uniqsquilla: the one i gave you.08:49
PupenoHawkwind: I wouldn't give a cent to either nvidia nor ati.08:49
uniqsquilla: if it helps: releases.ubuntu.com::releases/kubuntu/dapper/kubuntu-6.06-alternate-powerpc.iso08:49
MrObviousPupeno: What would you use then?08:49
MrObviousYou don't have much else to use.08:49
HawkwindPupeno: I used to use the drivers from nvidia.com when I was using Mandriva.  But now in Kubuntu I use the pre-packaged stuff08:50
jimmy__anyone here with a Dell laptop with ubuntu?08:50
PupenoHawkwind: even if I've got an nvidia card for free (falling from the sky or something), then, there's no use because I can't plug it in my desktop.08:50
Pupenoin my notebook I mean.08:50
PupenoMrObvious: so far, intel cards seem to work ok, with free drivers.08:50
squillauniq: not kubuntu - I get errors if I try that - the shipit disk is ubuntu08:50
sysrplhello08:51
sysrpli am having a problem with kde where when i create folders or files on my desktop using terminal they don't appear in the gui until i add or a remove an item through the gui08:51
uniqsquilla: ah..08:51
uniqsquilla: hang on.08:51
PupenoHawkwind: thanks.08:51
sysrpldoes anyone know is that is a common problem?08:51
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jimmy__After Kubuntu install... I now have a 4" black border on my screen08:51
uniqsquilla: releases.ubuntu.com::releases/dapper/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-powerpc.iso08:51
squillauniq: here's the error "skipping non-regular file "kubuntu-6.06-alternate-powerpc.iso""08:51
senseisysrpl: Works here08:51
Pupenosysrpl: press f5 to reload.08:52
sysrpli tried that08:52
sysrpland the desktop icons i create don't show up until i add or delete another icon through th gui08:52
jimmy__does Kubuntu suck on laptops or is it Dell?08:52
sysrpli'll google the problem, thanks08:53
omeowkubuntu has one of the worst websites ever08:53
omeowCan't find any info on the site.08:53
omeow(Any useful anyway)08:53
Pupenojimmy__: I'd say it is Dell. Kubuntu is running well in the two laptops I have and I've heard bad things about Dell laptops.08:53
omeowI always find myself going to the gentoo wiki or searching gentoo forums and occasionally the ubuntu forums/wiki.08:53
Hawkwindjimmy__: Works fine here.  I've used Dell for years and never had an issue08:53
sysrplsensei: do you know of a good way to resize a partition? i installed kubuntu here and the intaller setup only a 4 gb partition08:53
Pupenoomeow: what were you looking for ?08:54
jimmy__wonder how to fix it08:54
uniqsquilla: rsync -av releases.ubuntu.com::releases/.pool/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-powerpc.iso .08:54
sysrplthe rest of my drive is filled with an ntfs partition08:54
jimmy__works great under Live CD08:54
omeowPupeno: some info on how to set up an xbox 360 controller.08:54
omeowI wanted to write a page for it, but I just don't know where to add it.08:54
jimmy__but not under system08:54
Pupenoomeow: for info so broad, just use google and try to adapt to any distro you find. I think there's a wiki for both, ubuntu and kubuntu somewhere.08:55
omeowyeah, somewhere08:55
Hawkwindomeow: I've got tons of hits on google for Xbox 360 controller Kubuntu08:55
squillauniq: "sent 124 bytes  received 264 bytes  18.93 bytes/sec" - seems too little ...? am I a pessimist?08:55
Pupenoomeow: not so hard: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ (first hit on ubuntu wiki on google).08:56
uniqsquilla: rember the . at the end.08:56
uniqsquilla: in a empty dir, of course.08:56
omeowPupeno: Yes, but the links on the main page for kubuntu links to a wiki where you can't find much info.08:56
jimmy__should I try another distro?08:56
jimmy__ I know next to nothing about Linux08:57
squillauniq: I used this "rsync -av releases.ubuntu.com::releases/dapper/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-powerpc.iso tmp/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-powerpc.iso"08:57
uniqjimmy__: of course not. what is the problem with kubuntu?08:57
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gatekeeperomeow: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryDocumentation08:57
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MrObviousjimmy__: Ask your questions here then.08:57
jimmy__so the less I have to fix the better08:57
Pupenoomeow: oh, there's another distro. Well, most of what works for ubuntu works for kubuntu.08:57
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jimmy__thanks bro08:57
MrObviousYou're welcome :)08:57
jimmy__I have a 4" border around my screen on my laptop08:58
gatekeeperomeow: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper08:58
jimmy__Dell Inspiron 110008:58
gatekeeperomeow: want more?08:58
jimmy__everything else works great08:58
jimmy__4" black border08:59
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Pupenook, so, how do I get an xorg.conf exactly the same as the one that initially was there when I installed Kubuntu ?08:59
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sysrplpupeno: you should have backed it up09:00
HawkwindPupeno: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe ?09:00
nichi09:00
Pupenosysrpl: but I didn't :(09:00
omeowgatekeeper: what a huge list, why is it on a different domain than the ubuntu.org or kubuntu.com ones? Did someone else get frustrated about the way they presented information? ;)09:00
senseiGah, how do I switch between tabs in kopete without the mouse ? o.O Just can't find it anywhere09:00
nici have a problem while installing xubuntu09:00
sysrplwhat's the best ubuntu/kubuntu cd burning package?09:01
PupenoHawkwind: it asks questions the installer never asked. Should I close my eyes and press Enter 40 times ?09:01
nicmy network card doesn't get an ip via dhcp09:01
HawkwindPupeno: That will get you pretty darn close to the original09:01
nixternal!upgrade09:01
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.09:01
nicits chip is an rtl8139d09:01
nichow can i overcome this issue?09:01
h3sp4wnpuperno: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:01
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jimmy__still have that 4" black border09:02
basalthi09:02
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gatekeeperomeow: no idea just what I have found over the past couple of months :-) , have a look at my little home page http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home09:02
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Hawkwindnic: No one in #Xubuntu is able to help you ?09:02
nicno, the same problem occured with xubuntu, kubuntu, debian09:03
basalthi all, im new in kubuntu09:03
nicit seems to be an inherent problem09:03
jimmy__what do I do?09:03
MrObviousnic: Try using the command dhclient as root and see if that helps any09:03
Hawkwindnic: Why not do the install and setup the nic afterwards ?09:03
Pupenobrb09:03
jimmy__I would like to keep Kubuntu and not switch distros09:04
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nichow can i setup it afterwards?09:04
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MrObviousjimmy__: It could be the refresh rate is too high or something09:04
Hawkwindnic: systemsettings maybe09:04
MrObviousCheck that?09:04
jimmy__how?09:04
jimmy__I'm green man09:04
MrObviousRight click your desktop and push Configure Desktop or Configure whatever....09:05
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MrObviousIn blank area.09:05
MrObviousIt should be in there somewhere.09:05
jimmy__gotcha09:05
MrObviousIf you know your monitor's max res. and frequency you should be ok.09:05
h3sp4wnjimmy__: Have to look at the fixvideoresolution howto it is very well written09:05
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jimmy__i see no option09:06
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h3sp4wnsudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange09:06
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h3sp4wnjimmy__: ^^09:07
jimmy__you are going to get frustrated with me dude09:07
jimmy__sorry in advance09:08
jimmy__lol09:08
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MrObviousI'm not in KDE so I can't remember where it is.09:08
MrObviousSorry lol09:08
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carlhi09:08
MrObviousTry the Start menu and push System Settings09:08
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carlhow can I setup text-to-speech in kubuntu? I can't find anything about it in menu...09:08
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MrObviousIt's under Display jimmy__09:09
jimmy__found it09:09
Hawkwindcarl: festival is a text2speech app09:09
jimmy__wow it set at 640x48009:10
jimmy__no wonder it sucks09:10
MrObviousAh ha :)09:10
carlhawkwind, I see, it's not installed by default09:10
jimmy__bummer09:11
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MrObviousLinux != Winblows so sometimes you gotta play wiht things to get it to work.09:11
scott__hey, im trying to setup grub to boot back into a windows xp parition i have, it is on hda2. i have looked at howto on ubuntuforums but when i tried it said it couldnt boot into it, so im guessing i set the root parition wrong on it? i set it to root(hd0,2) (although it comes up as hda3 iirc in fdisk09:11
jimmy__not letting me change it higher09:11
MrObviousOh really?09:11
MrObvious:|09:11
Hawkwindcarl: Nope.  You will have to apt-get install festival09:11
jimmy__nope09:11
jimmy__60hz09:11
carlthanks hawkwind09:11
jimmy__also unchangable09:11
Hawkwindcarl: No problem09:12
MrObviousProbably need to modify xorg.conf and that is kinda complicated for n00bs09:12
MrObvious:(09:12
jimmy__crap09:12
jimmy__what would you suggest?09:13
MrObviousDo you have an ATI or NVidia card?09:13
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jimmy__ati09:14
MrObvious!ati09:14
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:14
MrObviousTry installing the driver09:14
carlaseigo, don't know if you are there... but I wanted to ask you what's the best way to start eating less meat... is there only tofu???09:14
jimmy__I81009:14
jimmy__i81009:14
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jimmy__i810 is all it says09:15
jimmy__ i think that is ati09:15
v3ctorthats intel09:15
jimmy__( or is it intel)09:15
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jimmy__talk'n to me vector?09:16
v3ctoryes09:16
jimmy__thanks09:16
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jimmy__how would I install the driver?09:17
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MrObvious!intel09:17
ubotuI know nothing about intel09:17
MrObviousDunno lol09:17
v3ctoryou already have the best one you will get09:17
MrObviousNever played with intel09:17
jimmy__lol09:17
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jimmy__my laptop sucks09:17
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v3ctormost of them do09:17
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jimmy__windows was crawling, linux made it run09:18
Boon63hi all09:18
eltonhi09:18
carljimmy_, i810 is fine09:18
v3ctorjimmy__: does the live cd get a better res?09:18
jimmy__yes09:18
jimmy__1280x102409:18
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v3ctorcopy the xorg.conf  from the livecd09:19
jimmy__full screen09:19
jimmy__no border09:19
aseigocarl: no. there is certainly other stuff... and tofu tastes like crap unless cooked well IMHO.09:19
Boon63i have mess'd up partitions can i still isntall kubunto w/o faults?09:19
jimmy__I can barely see you guys the screen is so small09:19
omeowHow do I speed up the database? It's taking ages for adept to read the database now. I've got 1210 packages installed, when I first started using kubuntu it wasn't this slow. =/09:19
aseigocarl: i really suggest going and getting a good veggie cookbook.. it'll save your life =) and experiment with veg restaurants too for ideas if you can09:19
carlaseigo, tofu also looks like crap ;)09:19
aseigocarl: asian and indian food tend to often be very veg friendly09:19
v3ctorjimmy__: boot the livecd and copy the xorg.conf to your HD09:20
jimmy__can I drag and drop?09:20
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jimmy__ok09:20
nicdatabases are always slow if you have to perform a full table scan09:20
carlaseigo, thank you very much:D The meeting is still going well btw?09:20
aseigocarl: well, so does a lot of stuf before you cook it =) i tend to marinate it and/or cook the heck out of it so it gets a nice "skin" on it...09:20
nicyou should create an index on the primary key attributes09:20
aseigocarl: and avoid the soft tofu unless you are making a desert out of it or using it in soups or whatever09:20
aseigocarl: yeah, going great thanks =)09:20
MrObviousjimmy__: Do this,  load the live cd, then sudo mount /media/cdrom then do a sudo cp /media/cdrom/etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf after you do sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old first09:20
jimmy__do I just do a search to find it?09:20
MrObviousI find CLI easiest09:21
carlthanks for all that info aseigo!09:21
v3ctor /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:21
aseigocarl: np...09:21
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MrObviousFirst, move the current to a backup, mount the cd, then copy09:21
MrObviousI gave you the 3 commands you need09:21
jimmy__ok {shaking}09:22
v3ctormake the backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf before you boot to cd...so you don't forget09:22
jimmy__ok09:23
jimmy__where do I type all this?09:23
v3ctorsudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old09:23
v3ctorkonsole09:23
nicok thanx09:23
v3ctor k -> system -> terminal program (konsole)09:24
MrObviousLol sorry jimmy__09:24
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jimmy__told me missing destination file09:26
MrObviousAh09:27
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MrObviousWhat you're doing is forgetting something here09:27
MrObviousThe way it works is sudo cp oldfile newfile09:27
MrObvioussudo is the command to use root privilages, cp is the copy command09:28
MrObviousoldfile is /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:28
jimmy__oh09:28
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MrObviousnewfile would be /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old09:28
Snake[Sleep] Thank you MrObvious09:28
Snake[Sleep] Sorry had to say it09:28
jimmy__ect/xll is location?09:28
Snake[Sleep] :)09:28
v3ctorx{eleven}09:29
MrObviousX(eleven)09:29
v3ctorlol09:29
jimmy__ohhh09:29
MrObviousSnake[Sleep] : For what?09:29
Snake[Sleep] It has to be CAPITOL X :)09:29
jimmy__lol09:29
jimmy__my bad09:29
MrObviousLinux is case sensitive09:29
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Snake[Sleep] MrObvious: I dunno, you know how people say "Thank you Mr Obvious" "Captian obvious" etc09:29
Snake[Sleep] anyho09:29
Snake[Sleep] shower09:29
Snake[Sleep] px09:29
Snake[Sleep] pz*09:29
MrObviousWhen we type commands, watch that.09:29
MrObviousSnake[Sleep] : I guess you're welcome :|09:30
jimmy__got ya trying again09:30
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jimmy__do I type the word sudo?09:31
v3ctoryes09:31
jimmy__ok09:31
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carlhmm, I installed festival, but akgregator still doesn't want to speak my articles, when I press on the speak button, nothing happens?09:32
jimmy__holy crap it worked09:34
v3ctorlol09:34
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jimmy__ok now I do that laundry list of commands after I reboot to the live cd09:35
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jimmy__right?09:35
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v3ctorcorrect09:35
jimmy__cool09:35
jimmy__thanks I'll be back09:36
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v3ctorbut you can skip the part where he said to make the copy09:36
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pupenoOk, it is looking better now.09:36
jimmy__ok, casue that is what we just did right?09:36
v3ctorcorrect09:37
jimmy__ok cool09:37
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jimmy__writing down commands & rebooting09:37
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scarfreewilli need help going on the internet with kubuntu 6.06 i am on the host pc atm and its shaired dailup09:38
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scarfreewillbtw my gateway is set09:42
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v3ctordhcp?09:42
scarfreewilli have a static ip09:43
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visik7anyone have solved the problem with flash an youtube embedded video ?09:43
Snake[Sleep] visik7: what problem is that?09:43
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v3ctorscarfreewill: ping 64.233.167.9909:44
v3ctorfrom kubuntu box09:44
visik7Snake: all embedded youtube video aren't playable and google video doesn't work except from audio (no problem with firefox at all)09:44
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Snakevisik7: ah I just use firefox, prolly why ive never seen that problem :)09:45
zorglu1visik7: try to configure konqueror to pretend to be firefox09:45
SnakeI also stopped using KDE tho heh09:45
scarfreewillv3ctor: it works lol but i still can't go in the net with konqueror09:45
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Ash-Fox!easysource09:45
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic09:45
v3ctoryoutube works in konqueror for me09:45
visik7zorglu1: isn't a user agent problem09:45
v3ctorscarfreewill: you need to add nameservers09:46
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v3ctorscarfreewill: just wanted to confirm that09:46
visik7Snake: so why you are in #kubuntu :)09:46
omeowvisik7: Try disabling your KDE sound system.09:46
omeow(and killing arts from the process list in ksysguard)09:46
v3ctorscarfreewill: try putting that ip into konqueror09:46
Snakevisik7: Just because I stopped using KDE doesnt mean I didnt use it for a year and a half and know a good bit about it :)09:46
visik7why have u stopped use it ? (just curious no flaming)09:47
Snaketo slow09:47
SnakeI moved to xfce, set it up just like KDE :)09:47
visik7on which system ?09:47
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SnakeHostname: ubuntu - OS: Linux 2.6.15-25-server/i686 - CPU: Pentium III (Coppermine) (647.209 MHz) - Processes: 87 - Uptime: 14h 28m - Load Average: 0.44 - Memory Usage: 158.19MB/503.44MB (31.42%) - Disk Usage: 2.99GB/11.56GB (25.90%)09:47
zorglu1Snake: which cpu and how much ram do you have to have it slow ?09:47
scarfreewillv3ctor: i put my host's ip in domain name servers and its work thx man09:47
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Snakezorglu1: see above09:47
zorglu1ah ok :)09:47
v3ctorscarfreewill: np09:47
visik7Snake: why do u use a server kernel ?09:47
koshon cards that do not support multiopen ubuntu dapper is supposed to use that alsa thing that will do software mixing09:47
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koshso long as things use alsa it shoudl all just work09:48
Snakevisik7: more customizable. :)09:48
fiyawerxhm, my youtube works fine09:48
Snakevisik7: I made my system real light weight09:48
fiyawerxusing konqeror for it too09:48
koshvisik7: what soundcard do you have?09:48
koshfiyawerx: what soundcard do you have?09:48
visik7Snake: what's the difference between -686 and -server ?09:48
Snakevisik7: server doesnt install all the crap that comes with the desktop CD, its more stripped down, then I just added programs as I wanted them09:49
fiyawerxkosh: how can i tell easily? its buitl in on the laptop09:49
h3sp4wnSnake: If speed is a problem and you want kde try kanotix or edgy09:49
fiyawerxkosh: i did have to install alsa-oss to get sound to work09:49
Snakeh3sp4wn: Im fine with xfce09:49
zorglu1now that adept is good to add package, linux needs an apps to remove package :)09:49
visik7I mean the kernel not the whole system09:50
Snakezorglu1: how about.... adept!09:50
zorglu1Snake: adept can remove efficiently ?09:50
fiyawerxzorglu1: you can do it with adept/apt-get/aptitude/debfoster(my personal favorite)09:50
zorglu1ah ok :)09:50
visik7h3sp4wn: what have edgy ?09:50
Snakevisik7: Ah kernel wise, not really sure, I just didnt want all the buldge of the desktop09:50
koshfiyawerx: probably lspci will show it09:51
omeowSnake: Maybe you should try archlinux with a custom kernel? ;)09:51
zorglu1well i meant to be able to remove package as being the opposite of installing package. not as just remove this given .deb :)09:51
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pupenoHow do I choose between OpenGL implementations ? currently fglrxinfo shows I am using Mesa and I'd like to use the ATI one (thankfully, DRI seem s to be working) ?09:51
h3sp4wnvisik7: It seems to be working pretty fast at the moment quite a bit of stuff is broken but I only use kde so it is working09:51
Snakeomeow: Uh ya sure right after im done with gentoo ;) :-P09:51
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insanekane<Snake> zorglu1: how about.... adept! <- that was so damn funny!!! :)09:51
dj_baggiohttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=824876610110234141609:51
omeowAre you using Gentoo now?09:51
dj_baggio:)09:51
Snakeomeow: No im on .. uhhh I guess xubuntu??09:51
Snakelol09:51
fiyawerxkosh: 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)09:51
zorglu1currently you may do a sinfle apt-get install and no clue how to undo it09:51
omeowOk.09:51
zorglu1insanekane: what is so funny about it ? :)09:51
insanekanei dont know, just the way he said it ... i could almost picture him saying it09:52
Snakezorglu1: you could also apt-get remove... or aptitude remove09:52
zorglu1well maybe i badly expressed myself, i should have said 'undo installation' and not 'remove'09:52
insanekanelike seinfeld or something09:52
koshthere is no undo09:52
koshthere is install, uninstall, reinstall, repair and a few other things09:52
zorglu1snake: if i do apt-get remove kde-desktop, this undo apt-get install kde-desktop ?09:53
fiyawerxzorglu1: they will do that, not just remove the .deb, try "debfoster" , i like that program09:53
robotgeekzorglu1: remove libgtk-2.0-bin09:53
fiyawerxzorglu1: debfoster will remove kde-desktop, _and_ everything that it keeps installed09:53
robotgeekfastest way to get rid of gnome :)09:53
zorglu1fiyawerx: oh!! excelent! i didnt knew this apps09:53
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fiyawerxzorglu1: the first time you run debfoster, it'll go through all the packages you already have installed09:53
fiyawerxzorglu1: if you want to remove a package and its dependencies/associations, use the "p" for prune option09:54
Snakezorglu1: aptitude will do that too09:54
fiyawerxwhen it asks to keep it09:54
Snakeiirc09:54
fiyawerxaptitude will only do it if you install with aptitude i believe, not apt-get09:54
Snakefiyawerx: ah correct09:54
Snakehmm09:54
fiyawerxdebfoster will retroactively go through anything you've installed package wise09:54
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fiyawerxand ask if you want to keep it09:54
zorglu1fiyawerx: seems exactly what i wanted :)09:54
zorglu1thanks09:54
h3sp4wnSnake: It is in universe already you can use it if you want (smartpm)09:55
koshapt-get remove --purge somepackage09:55
fiyawerxlike it'll list gnome-desktop, and all of the files that installed, and you can hit prune to remove them all at once09:55
Snakeh3sp4wn: I know, but its not worth it as of now09:55
fiyawerxzorglu1: welcome :)09:55
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Snakeh3sp4wn: right now synaptic > SMART imo09:55
h3sp4wnSnake: aptitude > synaptic09:55
Snakeh3sp4wn: dpkg > *09:55
koshI just prefer apt-get and using adept to look at some stuff09:55
Snake>: )09:55
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v3ctorchessburgers > aptitude09:55
SnakeSnake: > *09:56
v3ctorcheese*09:56
koshick beef09:56
koshsushi is much better :)09:56
v3ctorbleh09:56
Snakeick seafood09:56
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ashepherdHi, newb question, sound has stopped working in KDE, can't get it working again, any ideas?09:57
fiyawerxunmute?09:57
fiyawerx:)09:57
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ashepherderm thanks, but no!! :-D09:57
v3ctorwhat event lead up to the loss of sound?09:57
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fiyawerx!lamp10:05
ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP10:05
ashepherdno idea to be honest, just suddenlt realised10:06
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gamerChadhello, I just installed kubuntu and when I boot into it, all I get is a black screen :(  I had a similar problem when installing, I got around it then by using text mode installation on the alternative cd.10:07
tsdgeosgamerChad: do you have a ati video card?10:08
gamerChadyep10:08
gamerChadX700 mobility10:08
gamerChadradeon10:09
tsdgeoswell10:09
tsdgeosyeah10:09
tsdgeosubuntu sucks on ati cards10:09
tsdgeosquick fix10:09
tsdgeosis editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:09
tsdgeosgo to10:09
tsdgeosSection "Device"10:09
tsdgeosand change the Driver10:10
tsdgeosto "vesa"10:10
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gamerChadthat all?10:10
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tsdgeoswith that you will get graphics10:11
tsdgeosbut VERY slow10:11
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tsdgeosthen follow this10:11
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tsdgeoshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI10:11
grizzlyany method to change sound settings (alsa ? ) to default.10:13
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gamerChadcool, the vesa thing seems to be working so far.10:15
gamerChadthanks for the help tsdgeos10:15
tsdgeosgamerChad: no prob10:15
tsdgeosthat's why we are here ;-)10:16
tsdgeosjust keep using kde :-)10:16
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grizzlyhow do I restart alsa?10:16
gamerChadubuntu folk should be fix this thing... like yesterday.  Blank screening ATI users is not a good way to encourage people to use linux or ubuntu :)10:16
tsdgeosyeah10:17
tsdgeosi wonder why did not got to fix it10:17
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tsdgeosgrizzly: guessing.... sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart10:17
ashepherdany idea on how I can troubleshoot or get my sound working again, just seems to have stopped!!10:18
SnakeAnyone use mozilla?10:18
ashepherdI'm a bit new to Linux in general so go easy!! :-s10:18
fiyawerxwhere would i go about looking for a web/chat server software?10:18
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tsdgeosashepherd: when it did stop working?10:19
h3sp4wn_fiyawerx: freshmeat (thats where I would look)10:19
hackerxWhere can i find the list of automatix packages?10:19
tsdgeosfiyawerx: you mean something like ircd?10:19
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fiyawerxtsdgeos: hmm, that might work, with a web interface10:20
ashepherdcouple of days ago, I can't recall doing anything to screw it up10:20
gnomefreak!automatix10:20
fiyawerxtsdgeos: just looking for something a few buddies and i can use easily that i can host so we can coordinate our game playing :)10:20
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.10:20
gnomefreakhackerx: ^^^10:20
hackerxthanks10:20
stallion88hi everybody10:20
eXCeSSsup10:21
stallion88anybody knows how to synchronize a pocket pc??10:21
eXCeSS!pocketpc10:21
ubotuI know nothing about pocketpc10:21
eXCeSSboo10:21
eXCeSSno sorry lol10:21
stallion88no problem10:21
hackerxhmm theres no one active in there10:22
hackerxdoes anyone know10:22
hackerxor10:22
grizzlytsdgeos: Thanks! it works ( the alsa thing)10:22
hackerxdoes anyone know where i can find an irc client that supports a proxy10:22
tsdgeoswhoooo, i rock! two things fixed in a row!10:22
tsdgeoshackerx: i would bet konversation does10:23
tsdgeosask on #konversation10:23
tsdgeosand if it does not bug them10:23
tsdgeos!10:23
robotgeekhackerx: use irssi over ssh10:23
zorglu1q. is there a way to give a 'nickname' to the disk installed in the /media ?10:23
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Raitohow do you execute a script from the command line?10:23
uniqzorglu1: udev rules are great tools.10:24
robotgeekRaito: ./script10:24
zorglu1uniq: ok will look10:24
Raitorobotgeek: hmm, it didn't work, maybe I typed its name wrong10:24
uniqzorglu1: http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html10:24
Raitooh wait, Linux is case sensitive10:24
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chavoRaito, also that will only work if it's marked executable10:24
hackerxwell what im looking for is to use a proxy ip10:24
robotgeekRaito: also make sure the script is executable10:24
Raitoit doesn't work10:25
Raitohow would I execute it if it isn't executable?10:25
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chavoRaito, chmod +x filename10:25
tsdgeos:D10:25
robotgeekRaito: chmod +x script10:25
tsdgeosalso you can do10:25
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ashepherdtsdgeos, any idea on my sound mate, can go 3 for 310:25
tsdgeosbash ./script10:25
tsdgeosashepherd: that is more difficult10:25
chavoor sh script10:25
tsdgeosyou using kde?10:25
ashepherdyep10:25
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tsdgeosis artsd runnign?10:25
didjthank you uniq ^^10:25
ashepherdyou are talking to a newb!! :-s10:26
tsdgeosok sorry10:26
tsdgeosopen a shell (konsole) and do this10:26
tsdgeosps -A | grep artsd10:26
ashepherdif you can give me a few things to check, cos I am not at home atm, at work!! :-s10:26
tsdgeosah10:26
tsdgeoshmmm10:26
tsdgeospfff10:26
tsdgeosthat's difficult10:26
hackerxI want to use a proxy ip with irc10:27
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ashepherdno worries m8, I will try and come on when at home10:27
ashepherdthanks anyway tsdgeos10:27
tsdgeosashepherd: you should try to do it "online" as it is much more easy10:27
tsdgeosno problem10:27
jimmy__vecter10:28
fiyawerxhmm so many of these projects havn't been updated in 2-3 years10:28
tsdgeosbye10:28
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jimmy__live cd now does the same thing laptop is doing10:28
hackerxIs there any irc client that supports proxy ips?10:28
jimmy__so I didnt bother copying the xorg.conf file10:29
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MrObvioushackerx: xchat10:29
MrObviousOr wait10:29
hackerxok where in there10:29
hackerxcuz i couldnt find it10:29
hackerxi looked in both clients10:29
MrObviousSettings, Preferences, Network, Network Setup10:29
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jimmy__windows is easier, but why does it have to suck so bad?10:30
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Aaron_SWhen you get the chance could some one help me set up my wireless connection on kubuntu?10:31
eXCeSS!wireless10:31
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:31
hackerxMrObvious, i dont see it in there10:31
Aaron_SThank you10:31
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hackerx?10:35
hackerxanyone?10:35
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Philip5hackerx: we are all hiding10:35
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hackerxhuh?10:36
fiyawerxok so i could set up my own ircd, and then some kind of web interface for it so people could log in and chat?10:36
Hawkwindhackerx: Did you enable multiverse and install xchat ?10:36
Hawkwindhackerx: It's not installed by default10:37
hackerxyes10:37
hackerxi have Xchat10:37
hackerxbut10:37
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hackerxno proxy support10:37
Hawkwindhackerx: Yes it does10:37
hackerxxplain10:37
hackerxExplain10:37
hackerx*10:37
MrObviousI told you where.10:37
hackerxnope10:37
HawkwindXchat -> Server List -> click on the server you want, click Edit10:37
zorglu1fiyawerx: yes. as a web interface there are some java applet doing irc client10:37
hackerxmaybe i need to update?10:38
hackerxok yea i did the edit things also10:38
hackerxnothing10:38
hackerxhow would i update?10:38
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HawkwindIt's there.  Has been for years10:38
hackerxhmm10:38
hackerxok10:38
Hawkwindhackerx: You on 2.6.1 ?10:38
hackerxhold on ill look10:38
MrObviousHelp/About10:38
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HawkwindLook at the top of your screen10:38
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HawkwindNo need to click on Help -> About10:39
hackerx2.6.1 of what?10:39
hackerxxchat?10:39
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Hawkwindhackerx: Xchat10:39
MrObviousHawkwind: I have to on mine to see the version.10:39
HawkwindIsn't that what this conversation is about ?10:39
HawkwindMrObvious: Because you're using E1710:39
hackerxim running Xchat-GNOME 0.1110:39
MrObviousMine on the top says Xchat: MrObvious @ Freenode / #kubuntu (+ncf #ubuntu-unregged)10:39
HawkwindMrObvious: It's different in KDE10:39
MrObviousHawkwind: That's why.10:39
Hawkwindhackerx: That's xchat-gnome, totally different from xchat10:39
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MrObvioushackerx: That's why.10:40
hackerxok10:40
hackerxso10:40
MrObvious!universe10:40
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource10:40
hackerxwhat do i need to do?10:40
Hawkwindhackerx: alt-f2 and then type: xchat10:40
MrObviousYou'll need to add that to your sources.list hackerx (multiverse and universe) if you haven't already.10:40
hackerxi have10:40
MrObviousOk great10:40
HawkwindXchat is actually in universe10:40
Hawkwindhackerx: apt-get install xchat10:40
Hawkwindhackerx: That should install it10:41
MrObvious*sudo10:41
hackerxyea10:41
hackerxok10:41
jimmy__I found linux drivers for my video card10:41
hackerxyes10:41
MrObviousjimmy__: Yay10:41
HawkwindERmm, add sudo, yeah10:41
jimmy__which one do I get?10:41
MrObviousDunno lol10:41
fiyawerxzorglu1: configuring ircd-hybrid now :)10:41
jimmy__lol10:41
fiyawerxfor the server part, then will look into the web clients10:41
jimmy__off of intel website10:41
unix_infideljimmy__: you shouldnt need to get it off intel's website.10:41
unix_infidelrepos should have intel integrated stuff available for you.10:42
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jimmy__repos?10:43
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RaitoI installed a new bootsplash using usplash, but thing is, when I boot up, the whole screen is black while booting up, it eventually boots up but it doesn't show anything while that is happening. What might have I done wrong?10:45
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Eazy-anyone knows of a sysinfo script for xchat that works?10:45
jimmy__repos?10:45
Eazy-nah, x-sys2 dosent work10:45
jimmy__what is repos?10:46
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h3sp4wn_Eazy-: infobash10:46
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Eazy-Jimmy: repository10:47
TheHighChild!tell Eazy- about repos10:47
hackerxOk, now for a proxy server i can just use the ip and it doesnt have a login but its now working10:47
Eazy-allready know of the repos :)10:47
hackerxthe host name is the ip right10:47
freewillwhere can i find a how to to install my nvidia gfx drivers the easiest way?10:47
Eazy-h3sp4wn_: thanx10:48
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larson9999got a question. with all the hub-bub about apt-get being beter that urpmi, i'm confused why apt-get doesn't let you put in part of the package name and then give you a list of packages to chose from like urpmi does.  or does it and i just don't know how?10:48
h3sp4wn_CPU[AMD Athlon XP 2600+ clocked at 1913.224 Mhz]   Kernel[Linux 2.6.17.3-rt5-v1 i686]   Up[-5:28-]   Mem[-970.02/1003.56MB-]   HDD[-121GB(17%used)-]   Procs[-123-]   Client[Konversation 0.19] 10:48
jimmy__what version/kind of driver do I download from intel using Kubuntu?10:48
h3sp4wn_Easy-: ^^ you just do /exec infobash10:49
jimmy__video driver10:49
h3sp4wn_Easy-: infobash -v if you want more information10:49
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chavolarson9999, it does, but it's not apt doing that, that is bash_completion10:49
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larson9999chavo for instance: sudo apt-get install ope just tells me there are no packages.10:50
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chavolarson9999, I see 514 possibilities10:50
larson9999chavo hmmm, maybe i have something set up goofey10:51
chavolarson9999, did you upgrade from breezy?10:51
larson9999chavo: no. installed from dapper desktop cd10:51
chavook10:51
chavosounds like somethings wrong with bash_completion10:51
jimmy__do I use .tar or rpg or tar?10:51
jimmy__oops I diddoed10:52
fiyawerx!ircd10:52
ubotuI know nothing about ircd10:52
chavoyou can check your ~/.bashrc look for some lines with "bash_completion", make sure it's not commented out10:52
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larson9999chavo: it's not commented out10:54
larson9999tired of waiting for ooo to hit the repos10:56
Hawkwindchavo: Are you actually just typing: apt-get install ope   and then hitting enter or the tab key ?10:58
Hawkwindchavo: You're hitting the tab key.  That is NOT what he wants10:58
Hawkwindchavo: He wants to be able to type: sudo apt-get install ope   and then hit enter and it give him a list of packages that have 'ope' in the name10:59
Hawkwindlarson9999: Is that correct ?10:59
larson9999Hawkwind: oh, he's talking about tab completion?  no, i don't want that.10:59
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larson9999Hawkwind: assuming you're right about that10:59
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Hawkwindlarson9999: I am.  I get 517 possibilities when I hit the tab key after typing: sudo apt-get install ope11:00
larson9999Hawkwind: ok, i get 515 possibilities so that probably is what he's talking about11:00
hackerxWhat does it mean when it says i cant connect to this proxy because i have a open proxy on my host11:00
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RaitoI installed a new bootsplash using usplash, but thing is, when I boot up, the whole screen is black while booting up, it eventually boots up but it doesn't show anything while that is happening. What might have I done wrong?11:00
larson9999Hawkwind: i didn't think urpmi was any worse than apt-get.  this gives it a notch up in my book actually.11:01
h3sp4wn_!splasg11:01
ubotuI know nothing about splasg11:01
h3sp4wn_!splash11:01
ubotuTo change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.11:01
h3sp4wn_!usplash11:01
ubotuusplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto11:01
hackerxanyone?11:01
larson9999s/new/knew11:01
larson9999wrong channel11:01
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larson9999Hawkwind: so, do you know if you can get apt to do that like urpmi does?11:02
hackerx***What does it mean when it says i cant connect to this proxy because i have a open proxy on my host11:02
Hawkwindlarson9999: No idea.  But definitely a question I want to know the answer to11:02
Hawkwindhackerx: No need to repeat11:02
hackerxsorry11:02
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Hawkwindhackerx: Patience is a virtue.  Everyone is busy or doesn't know the answer11:02
bogdan_hello ppl11:02
Hawkwindhackerx: Try asking in #Xchat11:02
hackerxk sorry11:03
larson9999Hawkwind: that's be worth adding to apt-get if not11:03
bogdan_i have a small problem with mz kubuntu. ....11:03
bogdan_i just install kubuntu 6.06 ...and i want to install a printer from my network .,...11:03
bogdan_someone from Romania here ???11:04
Hawkwindbogdan_: systemsettings -> printers11:04
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Hawkwindbogdan_: You can set it up there, or use kprinter11:04
bogdan_yes i know that11:05
bogdan_i enter there ... i can find the computer on my network where is the printer conected ...11:05
bogdan_but i cannot access it ...11:05
larson9999how about the www cups thingie?11:06
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scott__Where is the place to submit bug reports for Kubuntu?11:06
Hawkwindbogdan_: Might try being a bit more descriptive11:06
Hawkwind!bugs11:06
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ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com11:06
scott__Oh, ok, so that is good for Kubuntu too11:06
imbrandonyes11:07
Hawkwindbogdan_: Please don't pm me without permission, and keep the chat in the channel so everyone can see and help11:07
basalthi all11:07
scott__ok, thanks11:07
basaltim new at kubuntu and i installed it on Thinkpad A22 but there is no sound, can anyone tell me why?11:08
scott__Sometimes I need to actually adjust all the volume levels to get my sound working11:08
scott__And that is on a Evo N400c, compaq11:08
crimsunbasalt: use http://pastebin.ca to paste the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''11:09
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larson9999basalt: i had a problem where my port was turned off. i used alsamix to turn it on.  sometimes going into kmix and enabling sound is needed, too.11:09
basaltthanks i will try it11:10
Hawkwindbogdan_: Please stop pm'ing me!11:10
gatekeeper!sound11:10
ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems11:10
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bogdan_ok Hawkwind11:12
carlosalgum portugus ?11:12
bogdan_i just write more details about my small problem11:12
larson9999bogdan_: read the ubotu11:12
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gnomefreak!pt11:13
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.11:13
bogdan_larson9999:  ? what11:13
bogdan_ i went to system settings - printers\11:13
bogdan_Add Printer/Class11:14
bogdan_there i chose SMB shared printer (Windows)11:14
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larson9999bogdan_: oops wrong nick11:14
bogdan_Anonymous / Scan11:14
bogdan_There i find Workgroup  - User2   ..... my printer is conected to user2 (on this computer i have Windos XP and this printer is set up for share)11:14
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bogdan_and when i try to connect to user2 .... i have this message  ... Error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED11:14
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bogdan_no problem larson999911:15
gatekeeperbogdan_: that looks like a permissions issue on the windows box11:15
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bogdan_when i am in windows, i can connect to user2 and i can use this printer11:16
gatekeeperbogdan_: printer is attached to the windows box?11:17
bogdan_yes, on user211:17
gatekeeperbogdan_: and you are trying to print from the linux box?11:18
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CntryboyHas anyone ever used kgpg?11:18
bogdan_gatekeeper:   i have 2 computers. user1 and user2  .... on user1 i have linux and windows xp ... and on user2 i have windows xp. this printer is conected to user211:19
RawSewageme11:19
basalthere is the output from cards && amixer http://pastebin.ca/8082811:19
RawSewageCntryboy, I use it11:19
Cntryboyrawsewage: is it sorta like iron key for windows?11:19
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RawSewageCntryboy, do you just want to encode a file with a password?11:19
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Cntryboyrawsewage: I just want to encrypt files where u have to use pass phrase to open them.. I don't care about keys ect. really not sure what a key is for anyways..11:19
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Cntryboyrawsewage: yes11:20
RawSewageCntryboy, to do that, use the Assymetrical option.  also, I'd uncheck ASCII11:20
bogdan_gatekeeper:  and i am trying to print from user1 (linux) ...to user2 (windows) ... where is the printer11:20
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RawSewageCntryboy, keys are confusing.  I dont know how to use them11:20
Cntryboyrawsewage: well not sure what that is, but I need to install kgpg first right? do I need to install gpg first then kgpg for gui?11:20
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RawSewageCntryboy, just install kgpg.  then you should be able to right click a file and get the Encrypt option11:21
Cntryboyrawsewage: keys might be for files you send to other ppls11:21
Cntryboyrawsewage: okay js let me do that11:21
Cntryboythx11:21
RawSewageCntryboy, yeah, but using them is another story11:21
gatekeeperbogdan_: I think you have to 'enable print services for unix' on the windows box, like I said it is a permissions issue of one sort or another look at this: http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:gB4s_cAHiI8J:www.mepis.org/node/view/3458+NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=211:22
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Cntryboyrawsewage: I guess it's installed I used adept and hit install changes11:23
Cntryboyand nothing happened after that so11:23
RawSewageok11:24
RawSewageright click a file11:24
RawSewagedoes it give you the option11:24
bogdan_gatekeeper:  thank you man. now i will try it11:24
Cntryboyonly thing I see is compress11:24
Cntryboyso I don't think so11:24
RawSewageCntryboy, youll probably have to restart X.  or you can start the program by itself, kpgp11:25
Cntryboynm forgot to apply changes11:25
gatekeeperbogdan_: ok :-)11:25
Cntryboyrawsewage: adept is differ than synaptics lol11:25
Cntryboyfirst time using it11:25
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RawSewageare you new to Kubuntu11:25
gatekeeperCntryboy: apt-get install synaptic if you would rather use that I do :-)11:26
eXCeSSI've installed my ATI drivers following the how-to and when doing fglrxinfo i get "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"." Anyone konw the solution?11:26
RawSewagegatekeeper, Synaptic works fine with Kubuntu?11:26
Cntryboylol gatekeeper11:26
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gatekeeperRawSewage: ohh yes :-)11:27
Cntryboyrawsewage: it said its installed but right clicking does nothing11:27
RawSewagecool11:27
h3sp4wn_eXCeSS: lsmod | grep fglrx11:27
Cntryboyalso I thought it put a shredder on desktop11:27
RawSewageCntryboy, ok, then just start kgpg  .  the right-click appears after restarting X, I guess11:27
RawSewageit does11:27
RawSewageyou can use the icon instead11:27
eXCeSSfglrx                 388908  011:27
eXCeSSagpgart                34888  2 fglrx,nvidia_agp11:27
eXCeSS?11:27
RawSewagejust drag the file to the icon11:27
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CntryboyI dont see an icon11:27
Cntryboyhow can I see if this is installed by term11:28
RawSewagedid you start kgpg11:28
RawSewagealt+f211:28
RawSewagekgpg11:28
h3sp4wn_eXCeSS: running fglrxinfo as root or a user ?11:28
eXCeSSuser i think shoul di do it as root11:28
Cntryboyokay well keymanagement is up top right with lock11:28
eXCeSSroot gives me the same thing11:28
h3sp4wn_It won't work as root it should be as a user11:28
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RawSewageCntryboy, drag a file onto the lock11:29
Cntryboyrawsewage do u care to msg me private this room gets scrolling and loses me11:29
h3sp4wn_eXCeSS: You using the very latest drivers ?11:29
eXCeSSyea11:29
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RawSewageCntryboy, is your nickname registered11:29
h3sp4wn_eXCeSS: from ati.com ?11:29
eXCeSSi did the guide on the wiki, then that didnt work then i did the ati oens11:29
eXCeSSyep11:29
eXCeSSmaybe i installed them as sudo should i try it w/o sudo?11:29
larson9999hmmm, i want to remove openoffice but when i remove openoffice.org-help-en-us, it wants to remove language-support-en and thunderbird-locale-en-gb.  that doesn't sound right does it?11:30
Cntryboyyes11:30
h3sp4wn_eXCeSS: ati-driver-installer-8.26.18-x86.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper ?11:30
Cntryboyit's reg11:30
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gatekeeperlarson9999: well I suppose you could always reinstall them, but it doesn't sound too healthy :-)11:31
h3sp4wn_eXCeSS: If you are running the stock dapper kernel that is the way you should do it (then install the deb's it creates)11:32
larson9999gatekeeper: seems like funny dependencies there.  i want to upgrade ooo and it doesn't look like the repos are going to updated anytime soon11:32
eXCeSSok, how do I do that build pkg thing becuase i run that it says "ati.run command not found" but it's there11:32
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gatekeeperlarson9999: new version got something you want?11:33
larson9999gatekeeper: yeah, faster and more compatibility with m$11:33
larson9999gatekeeper: making my resume in ooo and figured the more compatible the better11:34
gatekeeperlarson9999: back your system up then go for it11:34
larson9999gatekeeper: backups? we don't need no stinking backups11:34
gatekeeperlarson9999: have you seen the howto?11:34
larson9999on installing from ooo.org?  i've seen a couple.  which one are you referring to?11:35
eXCeSSi got it11:35
bogdan_gatekeeper:  it is working. thank you gatekeeper11:36
gatekeeperlarson9999: I was thinking of the backup, so why don't you want to backup?11:36
larson9999gatekeeper: just joking.  i always have backups11:36
gatekeeperbogdan_: cool :-)11:36
gatekeeperlarson9999: OK11:36
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larson9999gatekeeper: i learned the backup lesson decades ago11:37
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gatekeeperlarson9999: if you have got backups then go for it, you noted the funny dependencies so one way or another doesn't matter :-)11:37
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comahey uhh....anyone know how to get stuff from ntfs?11:38
fekmount it11:38
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fekbut you should mount it only with ro11:38
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comaro?11:39
LittleMehi11:39
gatekeeperlarson9999: I am usiing this unless you know something better? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=HOWTO%3A+backup11:39
fek!ntfs11:40
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions11:40
comatankoo :)11:40
gatekeepercoma: Xandos distro now reckons they can write to NTFS not sure what (k)ubuntu is doing different11:42
larson9999gatekeeper: i have 3 external hd's i use for backing up whole partitions and then run a script i got somewhere to back up certain directories daily.  that link looks good to me though.11:43
comagatekeeper : kwl...i just want my stuff off ntfs so i can format, made the final step from windows to linux today and im determined to stick it11:43
larson9999gatekeeper: the ntfs driver that gparted uses claims to be stable.  i have backuped, restored, and resized lots of ntfs partitions with it and haven't had any problems.  their site talks about it11:44
gatekeepercoma: good for you! you won't regret it linux rocks :-)11:44
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gatekeeperlarson9999: does your script use tar or something else?11:45
larson9999coma gatekeeper tar11:45
larson9999coma: what channel do i know you from?11:46
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gatekeeperlarson9999: usefull to know thanx for all your info backup and NTFS thanx :-)11:47
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klerfaytI want to enable smooth scrolling in konqueror but I do not know how it is done11:47
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Cntryboygotta go11:49
Cntryboythx rawsewage11:49
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comalarson : warzone ?11:49
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xadashi11:54
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hybridhello11:56
LittleMehi11:56
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larson9999coma: i don't know. i don't think we liked each other so much wherever it was :)  unless that was on another network and a different coma12:00
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bogdan_someone here from ROMANIA ????12:01
ihopeSo just how well does Kubuntu function with 160MB of RAM?12:01
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gatekeeperihope: I have breezy working on a P3 with I think 128Mb RAM might be a bit slow but works :-)12:02
mossmanHello Everyone.  kbfx-0.4.9.2rc1 enlarges kicker to 3/4 the size of screen on kde 3.5.2 kubuntu Dapper ?  Any suggestions?12:03
hybridihope: Xubuntu would run like a champ12:03
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ihopeXubuntu?12:03
larson9999Hawkwind: that's a PITA having to spell all the packages correctly.  hope i am missing something12:03
ihopeHow's that pronounced, exactly? :-P12:03
RawSewagezu12:03
ihopeAnd isn't this icon labelled "Install" supposed to do something when I click it?12:04
larson9999Hawkwind: did you know about xubuntu?  isn't xfce the wm you run?12:04
ihopeI have a virtual ISO in this virtual computer, and I'm trying to install Kubuntu onto its virtual hard drive...12:05
ihope...I mean a virtual CD! Grr...12:06
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PupenoHow do I change the language of a kword document ?12:06
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LittleMepupeno seach google for 'language translator' or 'language translation'12:07
Hawkwindlarson9999: Absolutely not.  I run E1712:07
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