[12:07] <omeow> h3sp4wn: My optimal frequency appears to be 60Hz.
[12:08] <chavo> eXCeSS, I don't believe that's possible
[12:08] <alien_chemist> any ndiswrapper xperts here?
[12:09] <h3sp4wn> omeow: But it won't let you change it from system settings ? (I wouldn't expect it to - I was messing with it for ages just today)
[12:09] <omeow> No, it doesn't.
[12:09] <eXCeSS> chavo: ughhhhhhhh
[12:09] <omeow> I suspect a configuration file in ~.kde/ got mangled. Because my test user gets two screens enabled right away.
[12:09] <DaSkreech> Anyone knows how to use ODBC?
[12:09] <omeow> Only problem is that I don't know which file tells KDE to use that particular resolution.
[12:10] <h3sp4wn> omeow: Modeline    "1280x1024_60.00"  108.88  1280 1360 1496 1712  1024 1025 1028 1060  -HSync +Vsync (Put that under each Section "Monitor")
[12:10] <chavo> omeow, it should be that file I mentioned kcmrandrrc
[12:10] <chavo> it is called by ~/.kde/share/config/startupconfig
[12:11] <h3sp4wn> omeow: And under Section "Screen" for each change it to be something like Modes      "1280x1024_60.00" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[12:12] <lucas> where is firefox installed by default?
[12:13] <h3sp4wn>  /usr/lib/firefox (Not too sure though because I have it in /opt/firefox
[12:13] <lucas> k
[12:13] <woshee> I've got a little problem with my webcam, the image is very dark and orange
[12:14] <omeow> h3sp4wn: I only have one section for monitor.
[12:14] <h3sp4wn> omeow: How did you setup the two screens ?
[12:14] <omeow> (I'm starting to get a feeling that the only solution to this problem is to copy files from the test user's ~/.kde to my own ~/.kde after creating a backup.
[12:15] <omeow> h3sp4wn: Did you check out my log and config file?
[12:15] <omeow> http://omeow.ath.cx/Xorg.0.log
[12:15] <omeow> http://omeow.ath.cx/xorg.conf
[12:18] <h3sp4wn> omeow: It looks like you will only have to change the modeline once (since the monitors are the same) I don't know about the other problem though
[12:19] <mikearthur> how do I stop my multimedia keys spouting junk into the console when I press them?
[12:20] <h3sp4wn> omeow: If you make the changes as I have done here http://pastebin.ca/79961 then you should have them running at 60hz
[12:23] <omeow> h3sp4wn: The problem is not that I cannot get them to work, it's that one of my monitors is disabled when I log in and I am not able to change the resolution or any other monitor specific settings that require root access because the configuration cannot be safely tested appearently.
[12:23] <cox377> there isnt anyway of increasing the cpu fan speed is there
[12:24] <cox377> this is a general question and not to within kubuntu
[12:24] <Dasnipa`> cox377, i believe that would be the individual fan that would have to have that ability
[12:24] <cox377> ahhh
[12:24] <Dasnipa`> but a variable speed proc fan and there ya go
[12:24] <cox377> bloody thing is over heating
[12:24] <h3sp4wn> omeow: Have you tried all the settings on nvidia-xconfig -A
[12:25] <tony__> is this thing working?
[12:25] <h3sp4wn> omeow: Expecially the ones relating to twinview and xinerama (may be best to start with a new xorg.conf
[12:26] <tony__> i've installed a bunch of progs but i don't know where to find them, any help?
[12:27] <tony__> i've found programs all in my folders but i don't know how to run them
[12:27] <tony__> like the kde config menu that suse has, how can i start it in ubuntu?
[12:28] <tony__> hello?
[12:28] <omeow> h3sp4wn: I've tried.
[12:29] <omeow> h3sp4wn: And if I use my single monitor xorg.conf file, I am allowed to change the settings in that display configuration tool.
[12:30] <tony__> anyone know what the best irc client is for linux?
[12:30] <DaSkreech> Yes!
[12:30] <DaSkreech> The one you like :)
[12:30] <RawSewage> There isnt a best one.  I like Konversation
[12:30] <RawSewage> X-Chat is the most popular, I think
[12:30] <RawSewage> theres others
[12:30] <omeow> h3sp4wn: I am able to set up two monitors there, but when I restart my xorg server, it's like the desktops are too big and I have to pan around in the screens.
[12:31] <DaSkreech> irssi!! :)
[12:31] <omeow> It's almost as if you're better off using 1 monitor on Linux. =/
[12:31] <omeow> Maybe that's why they created XGL.
[12:31] <tony__> anyone else a linux noob?
[12:31] <omeow> To give you multiple desktops on a single monitor. =P
[12:32] <chavo> omeow, somethings messed up with your config, it works great here. I use Twinview with and without XGL
[12:32] <tony__> is there an nvidia overclocking utility?
[12:33] <tony__> sorry about the questions, but i've been on kubuntu a week and this is the first time i've actually chatted with people who know anything about linux
[12:33] <sensei> omeow: Have you tried zooming ?
[12:34] <fiyawerx> !easy
[12:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about easy
[12:34] <fiyawerx> is there a separate version of easy-ubuntu for kde? or does the one package work on both?
[12:34] <chavo> tony__, you can use nvclock_qt to overclock your nvidia
[12:34] <sensei> tony__: There's 'nvclock'
[12:34] <sensei> oh sry
[12:34] <tony__> i think that's the one i tried but no gui
[12:34] <sensei> _qt is gui
[12:34] <tony__> i'm used to windows
[12:35] <chavo> nvclock_qt is the gui frontend for it
[12:35] <sensei> tony__: It never hurts go get used to CLI tho
[12:35] <tony__> i tried it and my screeen messed up so i thought i better stop
[12:35] <tony__> i'll search for the gui for it
[12:35] <chavo> you might have gone too far with the overclock
[12:36] <tony__> apparently i did but in windows i could've taken it way farther
[12:36] <tony__> i guess i got the numbers mixed up or something
[12:38] <tony__> i love the apt-get command. suse turned me off of linux. i had to spend hours hunting down dependants for vlc
[12:39] <tony__> anyone know the site off hand? i can't find the gui for nvclock
[12:39] <sensei> Doesn't urpmi do dependencies? Or didn't suse have vlc in its repos ?
[12:39] <RawSewage> I'm sure it does
[12:40] <tony__> it didn't for me but then again, i'm a noob
[12:40] <tony__> i asked a few people and no luck on installing it
[12:40] <sensei> tony__: With the right repos it's in the apt
[12:40] <chavo> urpmi handles dependencies but that's a Mandriva app
[12:40] <abattoir> sensei: isnt urpmi for mandriva?
[12:40] <abattoir> even though you can *make* it run in suse
[12:40] <sensei> abattoir: Could be :) Yast theN?
[12:40] <tony__> i used rpm-i and the yast installer but no luck
[12:41] <abattoir> tony__: i dont think rpm -i does dependencies
[12:41] <omeow> chavo: I know.
[12:41] <omeow> sensei: No I haven't.
[12:41] <h3sp4wn> I thought suse used smart now ? (or at least it can)
[12:41] <sensei> omeow: You haven't what?
[12:42] <omeow> tried zooming as you suggested
[12:42] <BKaj> gatekeeper, thx for the URL ,... the text worked ,! :)
[12:42] <sensei> Ah, I've been at the pub, can't rely on me remembering what I said ages ago ;)
[12:42] <sensei> omeow: Try ctrl+alt+(numpad +)
[12:42] <sensei> or numpad -
[12:43] <omeow> I'm just going to set things back the way they were and hope that some day someone manages to make things easy to set up.
[12:43] <Zaire> !easysources
[12:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about easysources
[12:44] <Zaire> !easysource
[12:44] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:46] <sensei> omeow: So zooming didn't work?
[12:47] <omeow> sensei: No, it only made things worse and it doesn't work for the second monitor.
[12:47] <tony__> anyone know what "activate extra pixel pipelines" exactly means in nvclock?
[12:47] <sensei> omeow: Well, if you keep doing it, it may work
[12:47] <sensei> There's several levels of zoom
[12:48] <omeow> I know.
[12:49] <OOD> tony: that's a software hack to enable extra pixel pipelines which are normally disabled on a certain card
[12:50] <OOD> this can result in exta performance at no extra overhead and heat
[12:52] <Cntryboy> anyone know how to turn off military time on the clock and have normal time?
[12:52] <DaSkreech> Right Click Configure time?
[12:53] <Cntryboy> I did but where at in there
[12:53] <BKaj> sensei or someone should know that ubotu bot is giving an invalis url :http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic , the repository doesn't connect once you made the choices on the page
[12:53] <Cntryboy> I see appearance/ timezomes
[12:53] <abattoir> Cntryboy: Rt. Click -> Adjust date/time
[12:53] <DaSkreech> Cntryboy: Sorry Right click -> Date/Time Format
[12:53] <imbrandon>       no , right client -- date times format
[12:53] <sensei> BKaj: Whaat?
[12:53] <DaSkreech> Um ok
[12:53] <imbrandon> click*
[12:53] <crimsun> right client!
[12:53] <abattoir> ugh, i meant that
[12:53] <DaSkreech> BKaj: Huh?
[12:54] <BKaj> invalid repository
[12:54] <Cntryboy> hell which one
[12:54] <imbrandon> crimsun: hehe
[12:54] <BKaj> 404
[12:54] <sensei> Am I giving the impression of being a developer? o.O
[12:54] <Cntryboy> ya'll confusing me with differ answer
[12:54] <abattoir> Cntryboy: what imbrandon said
[12:54] <abattoir> date and time format
[12:54] <imbrandon> Cntryboy: right click on the click and choose " Date and Time FormayT"
[12:54] <abattoir> go to times and dates in the window which comes up
[12:54] <Cntryboy> okay Im there
[12:55] <Cntryboy> now what am I looking for
[12:55] <BKaj> with a nick like sensei, I assumed you have some kind of advisor role here :)
[12:55] <abattoir> Cntryboy: what format do you exactly want?
[12:55] <sensei> BKaj: Sorry to disappoint you, but no :)
[12:55] <Cntryboy> I want when it's 3pm for it to say 3pm not 15:00pm
[12:55] <Cntryboy> like right now it says 18:55
[12:56] <abattoir> chose pH:MM
[12:56] <abattoir> in Time Format
[12:56] <DaSkreech> BKaj: What did you choose?
[12:56] <abattoir> instead of HH:MM
[12:56] <Kyral> You know you are a developer when you look at something in the physical world and think how you can represent it as an Object in your favorite programming language :D
[12:56] <BKaj>  anyway to whom it may concern that URL page doesn't work , http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:56] <DaSkreech> BKaj: Works for me
[12:57] <abattoir> Cntryboy: pH:MM:SS AMPM is the right syntax
[12:57] <abattoir> if you dont want seconds, pH:MM AMPM
[12:57] <Cntryboy> I did that but never changed
[12:57] <Cntryboy> i guess I have to restart x?
[12:57] <abattoir> nope restart kicker
[12:57] <abattoir> through dcop or 'killall kicker && kicker'
[12:58] <BKaj> it opens but once the choices are made , clicking on the GPG sources list doesn't do anything
[12:58] <DaSkreech> Cntryboy: Alt+F2 -> killall kicker && kicker
[12:58] <abattoir> Cntryboy: either 'dcop kicker kicker restart' or 'killall kicker && kicker'
[12:59] <Tommy2k4> why the && kicker
[12:59] <Cntryboy> restart kicker?
[12:59] <OOD> ah that's how you do it :D
[12:59] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: you are combining the two commands
[12:59] <Tommy2k4> ahhh
[12:59] <imbrandon> Tommy2k4: thats what brings it back
[12:59] <Cntryboy> what the hell is a kicker though
[12:59] <DaSkreech> Tommy2k4: && will do a second command if hte first worked properly
[12:59] <Tommy2k4> ic
[12:59] <Cntryboy> explain first b4 I do something
[12:59] <Cntryboy> please
[12:59] <Tommy2k4> kicker is the taskbar thingy
[12:59] <Tommy2k4> name of the process for it
[12:59] <abattoir> Cntryboy: kicker refers to those panels
[01:00] <DaSkreech> Cntryboy: Kicker is the taskbar at the bottom
[01:00] <Cntryboy> oh ok
[01:00] <abattoir> Cntryboy: of which the clock is a part
[01:00] <Cntryboy> got ya thx
[01:00] <DaSkreech> Cntryboy: It's what gives you panels
[01:00] <Cntryboy> so go to term and type dcop kicker kicker restart
[01:00] <Zaire> ummm wheres the sources list file again I forgot lol
[01:00] <abattoir> Cntryboy: yup
[01:00] <DaSkreech> !easyomatic
[01:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about easyomatic
[01:00] <imbrandon> Zaire: /etc/apt/
[01:00] <DaSkreech> !sources
[01:00] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:00] <Tommy2k4> /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:00] <tony___> i'm back, i about screwed my video card up again messing with nvclock
[01:01] <DaSkreech> Doh I can never remember it :)
[01:01] <Cntryboy> zaire:/etc/apt/sources.list
[01:01] <Zaire> cool thatnks I just used the auto sources page lol
[01:01] <DaSkreech> BKaj: Tell me what you selected
[01:01] <DaSkreech> !sourceomatic
[01:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about sourceomatic
[01:01] <Zaire> !source
[01:01] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:01] <imbrandon> !easysource DaSkreech
[01:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about easysource DaSkreech
[01:01] <DaSkreech> !easysource
[01:01] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:01] <Cntryboy> got time fixed
[01:01] <Cntryboy> thx gang
[01:01] <DaSkreech> Right that was it :-)
[01:02] <tony___> so where is there a list of what apt-get installs in kubuntu?
[01:02] <abattoir> !anything, so i am dumb
[01:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything, so i am dumb
[01:02] <tony___> saves me from having to search and download
[01:02] <abattoir> I hope ubotu or seveas dont kick me out :P
[01:02] <abattoir> just couldnt resist the temptation
[01:02] <TheHighChild> tony__ adept will show you a list of available packages
[01:03] <DaSkreech> tony___: Huh?
[01:03] <h3sp4wn> tony___: /var/log/dpkg.log - but /var/log/aptitude is more verbose
[01:03] <tony___> i installed xchat using apt-get but i didn't see it in adept
[01:03] <imbrandon> abattoir: ;)
[01:03] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :) abattoir run!!!
[01:04] <DaSkreech> tony__: Just filter on chat :)
[01:04] <abattoir> :P
[01:04] <tony___> filter? sorry, i'm a noob to even irc
[01:04] <DaSkreech> BKaj: Hello?
[01:05] <abattoir> Cntryboy: works?
[01:05] <DaSkreech> tony___: In Adept there is a search bar at the top just type in chat
[01:05] <omeow> blagh, I'm done for today
[01:05] <TheHighChild> tony__ give it a few seconds to filter through the lists
[01:05] <h3sp4wn> tony__: http://people.debian.org/~dburrows/aptitude-doc/en/ (that is all you would ever need to know about package management)
[01:06] <tony___> oh yea, i see xchat now. what a boob i am
[01:06] <ryanakca> why doesn't konqueror store certs? I go to https://gmail.com , it says something along the lines of "Certificate does not match IP"... "Details, Continue, Cancel".... Continure: "Store certificate / remember this option".... "Forever, Just for this session". I allwais pick "Forever", and it alwais asks me... same for the wiki.kubuntu.org
[01:06] <abattoir> ryanakca: i think that is a bug
[01:07] <abattoir> about the 'Forever' bit
[01:07] <abattoir> ryanakca: there is also a cert issue w/ wiki.kubuntu.org
[01:07] <ryanakca> abattoir: it's been around for eons... it was around even when dapper was beta... back in early April I first noticed it...
[01:07] <tony___> why use konquerer for browsing?
[01:07] <Zaire> whoops
[01:07] <Zaire> lol
[01:07] <BKaj> konq is slow as molasses on my pc
[01:07] <ryanakca> fine then... I won't answer... :P
[01:08] <D4m4ge> bye
[01:08] <tony___> i think i'm still in the server, why's it say i left?
[01:08] <BKaj> as a browser
[01:08] <LjL> "because it's a web browser"...?
[01:08] <ryanakca> oh... it's faster than FF here...
[01:08] <h3sp4wn> Its not faster than firefox for me (or I would use it) - Using mozilla.org firefox
[01:08] <BKaj> swiftfox is fast for AMD64s
[01:08] <abattoir> ryanakca: i would second that
[01:08] <Zaire> FireFox is best browser lol
[01:09] <imbrandon> swiftfox is buggy also ;)
[01:09] <LjL> and emacs is the best text editor, yeah, but anyway
[01:09] <LjL> the answer to "why use konqueror?" is "right, why use it?". you use it if you like it, just like with everything else
[01:09] <tony___> why does my hard drive seem so slow on linux? when i extract or search, it takes a long time
[01:09] <imbrandon> ok enough browser wars, take it to #kubuntu-offtopic for more
[01:09] <crimsun> tony___: you're not pedaling fast enough.
[01:09] <LjL> i like it, and it integrates with my KDE desktop, contrary to firefox (which i don't dislike at all anyway)
[01:10] <gnomefreak> oh crap
[01:10] <ryanakca> only thing I don't like about konq is that GMail is buggy... but no big.. still usable
[01:10] <ryanakca> FF is nice... konqueror is KDE :P
[01:10] <tony___> so how do i use the pedal command in the terminal?
[01:10] <DaSkreech> tony___: You have a lot of files
[01:10] <DaSkreech> lol good comeback
[01:10] <abattoir> ryanakca: have you changed Konqueror's ID for gmail.com?
[01:10] <ryanakca> yeah
[01:10] <crimsun> tony___: (it was a joke referring to bicycle pedals)
[01:10] <BKaj> bbl
[01:10] <tony___> i know, i'm playing along with it
[01:11] <imbrandon> lol @ crimsun
[01:11] <crimsun> well in that case, you need to check your hdparm settings.
[01:11] <tony___> i typed hdparm and there's just so many settings, and i didn't find a frontend for it
[01:11] <crimsun> alias hdparm='pedal '
[01:11] <crimsun> err
[01:12] <crimsun> bah, backward
[01:12] <imbrandon> hehe
[01:12] <LjL> tony___: "apt-cache search hdparm frontend"
[01:13] <Zaire> can anyone pastebin their repositories source list? preferably one with mp3 repositories lol
[01:13] <tony___> ok, i got "linhdd - GTK frontend for cfdisk/df/hdparm/mkfs", what next?
[01:13] <ryanakca> holy ****! I just had an explosion.... spam wise...
[01:13] <LjL> !tell zaire about easysource
[01:13] <ryanakca> from ~ 1 spam a month to 20 in 3 days!
[01:13] <Zaire> yea I tried that and its like navigating through a maze
[01:13] <sensei> Spamassassin <3
[01:14] <LjL> tony___: uh, next install it :o) that looks rather like a hdparm frontend, i think :)
[01:14] <Zaire> which is why i asked for pastebing
[01:14] <ryanakca> all of it is asian... sensei: on gmail?
[01:14] <tony___> ok, i installed it but how do i get to it?
[01:14] <sensei> ryanakca: Come again?
[01:14] <tony___> "linhdd, command not found"
[01:14] <ryanakca> spamassasin on gmail web interface???
[01:15] <LjL> tony___: not that i'd know how to use it though. and, even though i *have* used hdparm itself, i don't really remember the syntax to do things off hand, and i also don't want to feel responsible for giving bad advice, as hdparm can be dangerous. just type "hdparm" on google and you'll find plenty tutorials
[01:15] <sensei> ryanakca: Doesn't gmail do pop3? :/
[01:15] <ryanakca> yes...
[01:15] <sensei> Then what's the prob? :)
[01:15] <ryanakca> but I like gmail web interface vs anything
[01:15] <sensei> Okay, gotta chose I guess :)
[01:15] <omglazers> Hey can anyone here tell me the fastest mirror to grab Kubuntu for a Power PC?
[01:16] <sensei> Unless you get two gmails and .forwards to the other from the first, but that's plain retarded on the other hand
[01:16] <LjL> Zaire: oh, well, as the name says, it's supposed to be "easy"... anyway, i'm not sure how useful pasting my own sources.list would be. for instance, i have no idea what you mean with "mp3 repositories"
[01:16] <tony___> thanks for the advice. yes, i've used plenty of hard drive utilities but i just wish we could get out of the command line. it takes too much time to learn
[01:16] <BKaj> torrent on your continent or country seems fastest
[01:16] <omglazers> BKaj: Can't use torrent (college servers block it)
[01:16] <LjL> tony___: it's "linHDD"
[01:16] <imbrandon> omglazers: any of them have ppc version
[01:16] <omglazers> If you were even talking to me that is :P
[01:16] <BKaj> bummer omglazers
[01:17] <omglazers> imbrandon: I know I just mean one was like est. download of about 4 hrs and I dont wanna wait that long
[01:17] <imbrandon> omglazers: just pick a mirror close to you
[01:17] <word_> omglazers: because of piracy or they just don't like torrents?
[01:17] <LjL> tony___: when you can't find the name for a program you installed, do "dpkg -L linhdd" (or substitute whatever program), and you'll get a list of the files the package contains. that way you can see which command it is
[01:17] <omglazers> word_: Piracy pressures
[01:17] <omglazers> imbrandon: I don't know which one to find
[01:17] <imbrandon> omglazers: where are you at ?
[01:17] <omglazers> Florida
[01:18] <imbrandon> us.archive.ubnutun.com
[01:18] <BKaj> http I guess
[01:18] <LjL> tony___: anyway, i'm not sure you'd really want to use linhdd. i'm just trying it, and it doesn't look like it can actually change (m)any of the hdparm settings
[01:18] <imbrandon> ubuntu.com*
[01:18] <TheHighChild> omglazers: Have you tried setting up BT on non standard ports?
[01:18] <omglazers> TheHighChild: No.. No clue how to do that :(
[01:18] <TheHighChild> omglazers: What client are you using?
[01:19] <omglazers> Im just trying to set up Kubuntu cause I wanna try linux and I dont know about reporting bittorrent
[01:19] <LjL> tony___: let's just type "sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/hda" (if your hd is /dev/hda) and see how fast it's actually going, just to get an idea -- be sure there is no program chewing on the HD while you do the test
[01:19] <imbrandon> omglazers: we have woman developers , that makes no diff ;)
[01:19] <whizz-> does anybody know where the win32-codecs for mplayer go?
[01:19] <omglazers> TheHighChild: I dont use one because I couldnt ever get it to work
[01:19] <ryanakca> oh.... I'm pissed off... because of REVU... my e-mail is on google
[01:19] <omglazers> imbrandon: But thats my only excuse!!! :(
[01:19] <tony___> ok, i'll try it, thanks
[01:19] <imbrandon> heh
[01:19] <LjL> tony___: then try "sudo hdparm -i /dev/hda" and see if DMA in enabled, and to what level
[01:19] <omglazers> I'm not even a computer major, im doubled in premeds :(
[01:19] <omglazers> Hows that
[01:19] <imbrandon> heh
[01:19] <Cntryboy> ok back
[01:20] <Cntryboy> abattoir yes it works, thx again
[01:20] <abattoir> Cntryboy: and the sudo issue :P
[01:20] <mcscruff> hi, im haveing trouble burning dvd films, im using k3b, new project- dvd video , and then im adding all the files from my hdd (it is already in dvd format with the audio and video folder) , i burn it with k3b but in every dvd player/laptop it says its not a dvd video
[01:20] <tony___> i got 790 mb/s and 50 mb/s, is that bad?
[01:20] <LjL> tony___: no, not at all, unless your HD is supposed to be *very* fast
[01:20] <Cntryboy> abattoir oh from yesterday, well I ended up rebooting and I still get errors with kate but it loads so I guess I had to reboot not sure why
[01:20] <abattoir> whizz-: /usr/lib/win32
[01:21] <tony___> it's a 7200rpm 8mb cache seagate
[01:21] <imbrandon> mcscruff: it takes more than that, they have to be arranged in a certain order on the disk also, lookup dvd iso on google
[01:21] <TheHighChild> omglazers: I use azureus. You cna 'apt-get install azureus' but I think it's in the multiverse. When installed, you can go to Tools > Options > Connection and define the port there.
[01:21] <abattoir> Cntryboy: when in trouble, and no other solution exists, reboot ;)
[01:21] <mcscruff> imbrandon: it is all layed out correctly
[01:21] <imbrandon> mcscruff: i'm not talking about layout
[01:21] <whizz-> thx abattoir
[01:21] <omglazers> TheHighChild: lol, i'm not even using Linux yet. I'm TRYING to download kubuntu and get it on my Powerbook!
[01:22] <imbrandon> mcscruff: i mean the actual order its on the disk
[01:22] <mcscruff> imbrandon: it burns under windows.... its all correct
[01:22] <omglazers> TheHighChild: Tell me that when I get it installed ;)
[01:22] <imbrandon> mcscruff: i'm not talking about layout
[01:22] <LjL> tony___: well, mine does 60mb/s right now, and it's also a 7200 8mb (maxtor, though). but your value seems to be quite in line anyway (and it can vary a little between tests)
[01:22] <OOD> omglazers: bitcomet is a good windows bittorrent client
[01:22] <Stormfyst> hola. need someone to answer some basic questions for me
[01:22] <Stormfyst> anyone available?
[01:22] <TheHighChild> omglazers: LOL, ok. Hit me up after install ;)
[01:22] <Cntryboy> abattoir: only issue I have with ubuntu now really is I have a geforce fx5500 and it won't let me use regular nvidia-glx drivers with out my monitor going to sleep, so I installed legacys and it does work.. Now I did that with gnome with legacy and it worked but the games were jerky as shit, with kde and legacy the run smooth as windows if not better.
[01:22] <LjL> tony___: try sudo hdparm -i /dev/hda too, just to make sure the fastest DMA mode is selected
[01:22] <imbrandon> mcscruff: thats becouse what you use to burn it in windows knows the correct order, k3b dosent
[01:22] <LjL> !ask
[01:22] <omglazers> TheHighChild: Yea yea ok.. if it ever downloads
[01:22] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:22] <imbrandon> and dosent claim to
[01:22] <Stormfyst> ubotu i'm making sure people are listening.  ;-)
[01:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about i'm making sure people are listening.  ;-)
[01:22] <Stormfyst> heh
[01:23] <Stormfyst> ok.  i downloaded kubuntu iso
[01:23] <Stormfyst> burned the image to disk
[01:23] <omglazers> Oh also, anyone here mind helping me with drive partitioning and format questions? :D
[01:23] <Stormfyst> i have an ibm thinkpad 1700 pii 300mhz 128mb ram machine
[01:23] <Stormfyst> with dvd drive
[01:23] <abattoir> Cntryboy: hmm, i have no experience w/ nvidia, but well KDE rocks, that's why :P
[01:23] <LjL> Stormfyst: that's very little RAM. you should probably use the alternate CD, not the main ("desktop") cd
[01:23] <Stormfyst> the file that i burned is the desktop iso
[01:23] <TheHighChild> omglazers: Are you intalling on a PPC powerbook or a Macbook?
[01:24] <omglazers> TheHighChild: PPC Powerbook
[01:24] <Stormfyst> AHH
[01:24] <tony___> between all the mumbo jumbo, i can't see anything significantly telling me dma is on but it does see the mdma 0, 1, and 2
[01:24] <LjL> Stormfyst: the Desktop version is not really intended for systems with less than 192 megs of RAM
[01:24] <Stormfyst> what i'm trying to do is INSTALL kubuntu
[01:24] <Stormfyst> ok
[01:24] <Cntryboy> well gotta go for a bit
[01:24] <Stormfyst> so there are different version of kubutnu?
[01:24] <OOD> Stormfyst: you should probably go for Xubuntu instead
[01:24] <LjL> Stormfyst: no
[01:24] <Cntryboy> abattoir: take care bro
[01:24] <TheHighChild> omglazers: Ok, I can't really help there as I don't know the PPC arch of kubuntu but make sure you let any folks trying to help know that, so they can be sure to give you the most accurate info
[01:24] <LjL> Stormfyst: it's just two different installation methods
[01:24] <tony___> hey TheHighChild, do you ever play wolfenstein ET on the Sh*tstorm forums?
[01:24] <LjL> Stormfyst: the Desktop CD uses a graphical installer, and it's a "live CD", while the alternate CD uses a text-mode installer
[01:24] <Stormfyst> can someone shed some light on that or point me to a sight to educate myself?
[01:25] <omglazers> TheHighChild: Well all I want to know is not really technical, but more, planning or common sense
[01:25] <omglazers> :(
[01:25] <TheHighChild> tony___: Lol, that'd be me
[01:25] <lphuberdeau> anyone ever encountered stange problems with kubuntu? because I have a huge one now
[01:25] <LjL> Stormfyst: the Desktop CD has higher RAM requirements because of that
[01:25] <Stormfyst> ahh
[01:25] <imbrandon> TheHighChild: i use ppc kubuntu on a ppc iBook
[01:25] <Stormfyst> so download the alternate iso and try with that install?
[01:25] <LjL> Stormfyst: also, be aware that - at least in my experience - running Ubuntu with only 128 megs of RAM is going to be a... slow... experience
[01:25] <omglazers> imbrandon: HELLLLLLLLLOOOOOO BRANDON :D
[01:25] <LjL> Stormfyst: yeah
[01:25] <tony___> really? the only TheHighChild i know online and i remember browsing the forums years ago
[01:25] <imbrandon> Stormfyst: yea
[01:25] <OOD> Stormfyst: i think you should get Xubuntu, it uses XFCE instead of KDE whic is much lighter on resources
[01:25] <TheHighChild> imbrandon: omglazers was asking about partitioning info. i didn't want to venture into that as I don't have a machine for reference
[01:25] <crimsun> imbrandon: hah, you're it.
[01:25] <omglazers> :(
[01:26] <imbrandon> omglazers: keep the lang PG in here though ;)
[01:26] <Stormfyst> So Kubuntu is more of an interface into linux?
[01:26] <omglazers> =-o
[01:26] <omglazers> Sorry
[01:26] <TheHighChild> tony___:  Yeah man. I've been at it for a few years, kept the nick but I'm the same gay. What's your handle?
[01:26] <sponix> anyone have hangs on bind9 shutdown scripts ?
[01:26] <omglazers> Mind if I privately talk to you? :(
[01:26] <imbrandon> ehehe
[01:26] <omglazers> I'll love you forever
[01:26] <imbrandon> lol @ crimsun , my turn huh ;)
[01:26] <LjL> Stormfyst: Kubuntu is just Ubuntu with KDE instead of Gnome (just like Xubuntu is just Ubuntu with XFCE). but, yes, Gnome, KDE and XFCE are just interfaces on top of the Linux kernel
[01:26] <abattoir> Stormfyst: Kubuntu uses Ubuntu's base w/ KDE
[01:26] <imbrandon> omglazers: no i dont mind
[01:26] <Stormfyst> AHHH
[01:26] <tony___> mine's KommieKiller on the forums and the game, named so since I used to play nothing but the ally side
[01:26] <Stormfyst> so yeah i had the whole idea wrong
[01:26] <Stormfyst> so Xubuntu then.
[01:27] <Stormfyst> thanks a ton!
[01:27] <Stormfyst> this damn p2 machine is killign me lol
[01:27] <lphuberdeau> I was configuring kontact and it crashed at some point. Ever since, kontact and konqueror won't start, kopete won't connect to networks and not all sections are accessible in the control panel... ever heard of this?
[01:27] <TheHighChild> tony___: Oh hey man. Of course I remember you.
[01:27] <sponix> crimsun:  you seen that, bind9 shutdown scripts hang the box for shutdown/reboot ?
[01:27] <LjL> Stormfyst: it really depends on which desktop you like best. but, yeah, Xubuntu with XFCE is going to be a bit faster on a machine with little RAM
[01:27] <tony___> been a while since i played the game but still lots of fun
[01:27] <Stormfyst> very much appreciated gang
[01:27] <mcscruff> imbrandon: no matte what order i add them in in k3b they always goto alphabetical
[01:27] <tony___> i had to go without broadband for a while so i didn't visit the forums anymore
[01:28] <tony___> btw, the game runs like crap on linux for me, still trying to figure it out
[01:28] <abattoir> lphuberdeau: have you tried executing those programs from the command line, if so you get any errors?
[01:28] <imbrandon> mcscruff: there is ways to make the dvd iso before you burn it, thus i sugested you google it
[01:28] <LjL> Stormfyst: also keep in mind that Ubuntu is quite a bit more "polished" than either Kubuntu and Xubuntu, which are younger and a bit behind in development
[01:28] <Stormfyst> oh, mone more question.  what is Dapper?
[01:28] <lphuberdeau> sure did
[01:28] <Stormfyst> so ljl do you think it would be more prudent to install ubuntu instead?
[01:28] <LjL> Stormfyst: Dapper Drake is the nickname for the current version of Ubuntu (i.e. version 6.06)
[01:28] <lphuberdeau> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[01:29] <TheHighChild> tony___: You have 3d drivers installed?
[01:29] <Stormfyst> wow  too much stuff going on here lol
[01:29] <abattoir> lphuberdeau: only that? if it is large, you can !paste it
[01:29] <abattoir> !paste
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[01:29] <lphuberdeau> few more codes after that (major 145, minor 3, resource 0x0)
[01:29] <Stormfyst> Dapper Drake = Kubuntu = Ubuntu = Linux
[01:29] <tony___> yeah. movies run just fine with my nvidia card, it's just seemingly full screen games
[01:29] <lphuberdeau> nothing significant
[01:29] <abattoir> lphuberdeau: do you get the prompt back after that?
[01:29] <lphuberdeau> nope
[01:29] <tony___> or opengl games i guess
[01:29] <lphuberdeau> application running in the background it seems
[01:30] <TheHighChild> tony___: What card are you using? Also, are you registered? if so we can take this into a private chat
[01:30] <LjL> Stormfyst: i don't really know. i think you should, but on the other hand you're likely to end up with something too slow to bear. and also, *my* (personal) feeling is that while XFCE is faster, it doesn't really make that much of a difference. it mostly depends on the *application programs* you use, rather than the desktop environment. but that's just me.
[01:30] <abattoir> lphuberdeau: hmmm, have you tried re-installing/ upgrading these apps? or are you using dapper up-to-date?
[01:30] <lphuberdeau> abattoir: yes and yes, using 6.06
[01:31] <abattoir> lphuberdeau: if you have other users, do these apps launch for them(or for root) ?
[01:31] <tony___> nvidia 6800gt, i don't know what you mean by registered, i have only had kubuntu installed for almost a week and i'm an irc noob
[01:31] <lphuberdeau> join #kubuntu-weird
[01:32] <LjL> Stormfyst: err, that's a bit simplicistic. first, Linux is just a kernel, while Ubuntu is a distribution including lots of software (chiefly: Linux and the GNU tool suite). then there is X-Window, which is the standard graphical environment on Unix, and you can choose between a few different desktop environments like KDE, Gnome etc.  Ubuntu, for convenience, has elected to release different CDs "customized" for various desktop environments: Ubun
[01:32] <LjL> r XFCE..
[01:33] <TheHighChild> tony___: I meant registered on IRC. I'm an IRC noob too and don't know how to tell you to register lol.
[01:34] <apokryphos> !register
[01:34] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:34] <TheHighChild> Barreled!
[01:34] <tony___> i didn't know you  have to register to im, and i don't see the option
[01:34] <TheHighChild> tony___: You only have to be registered to speak in a private message
[01:35] <apokryphos> Unregistered users can't PM others, by default.
[01:35] <TheHighChild> well said
[01:35] <apokryphos> was introduced by Freenode when the bot floods started and repeatedly PMed users
[01:36] <tony___> i'm using Konversation and i just don't see the option
[01:36] <apokryphos> if you *really* want unregistered users to be able to send you PMs, then you can change your user-settings
[01:36] <apokryphos> tony___: option for what? To register?
[01:36] <TheHighChild> tony___: You see the link that apokryphos had ubotu post?
[01:36] <tony___> oh, ok, thanks. too busy looking otherwise
[01:36] <apokryphos> use that link, or just /msg nickserv help register
[01:37] <TheHighChild> tony___: Just so you know, with Konversation. If you use a persons nick, the message will appear in red. Just a cool trick to keep track of who is talking to you
[01:38] <tony___> TheHighChild, yeah, i'm beginning to notice
[01:39] <DaSkreech> TheHighChild: I also have it throw up a notice on the screen and play a sound :)
[01:39] <TheHighChild> tony___: You can start typing someone's name and press tab to complete it, like in konsole
[01:39] <abattoir> TheHighChild: LEDs are cool too :P
[01:39] <TheHighChild> I settle for the flashing icon in the systray ;) I should rig upa sound though
[01:41] <tony___> TheHighChild: O
[01:41] <tony___> i'm supposedly registered now
[01:41] <Tommy2k4> my sendmail is broke
[01:41] <Tommy2k4>  if i use mail() in a php page it takes 1min before the page eventually loads and the mail sends
[01:41] <Tommy2k4> and when starting the sendmail daemon on boot up it froze for like 5mins
[01:41] <Tommy2k4> any ideas?
[01:41] <apokryphos> tony___: indeed you are
[01:41] <tony___> btw, i don't know how i got the underscores after my name, i guess it just automatically did it
[01:41] <DaSkreech> TheHighChild: I want a flashing taskbar :(
[01:42] <apokryphos> tony___: I presume tony was taken ;-)
[01:42] <apokryphos> (as was tony_ most probably)
[01:42] <eXCeSS> ahah
[01:42] <tony___> i guess so but i thought it would ask me what name i wanted to use or register
[01:42] <apokryphos> tony___: nope, it uses the name you currently have. If you wish, you can register another nickname.
[01:43] <tony___> anyhow, that was easy enough
[01:43] <TheHighChild> DaSkreech: Settings >configure Konversation > Behavior > general > enable system tray
[01:43] <tony___> this one's fine
[01:43] <TheHighChild> tony___: Send me a message /msg TheHighChild
[01:43] <DaSkreech> TheHighChild: Eh?
[01:44] <TheHighChild> DaSkreech: You said you wanted a flashing tray icon
[01:44] <DaSkreech> No taskbar :)
[01:46] <omglazers> brb
[01:59] <Raito> How do you change file associations? I want videos to auto open with vlc not Kaffeine
[02:00] <kkathman> Raito:  kcontrol - KDE Components - File Associations
[02:00] <nixternal> Raito: right click the file, then select "open with", and there is a place to select "Rember application association for this type of file", select it and press ok
[02:00] <nixternal> select other after the open with
[02:01] <Raito> kkathman: alright, trying, nixternal: I did that, it only lets vlc be on the list, but kaffeine is still higher
[02:02] <sensei> Raito: kcontrol
[02:02] <nixternal> i just selected kaffeine
[02:02] <sensei> As kkathman just said.. right.. bed time
[02:02] <kkathman> in the procedure I gave you, you can decide which is first
[02:02] <eXCeSS> !ati
[02:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:03] <bianconeri> Hello
[02:04] <bianconeri> I need help with installing vmware on kubuntu
[02:04] <nixternal> bianconeri: vmplayer, server, workstation
[02:04] <nixternal> which one?
[02:04] <bianconeri> vmplayer
[02:05] <nixternal> vmplayer is in the repositories...you just need to enable universe/multiverse repositories, then install via adept, synaptic, or apt-get
[02:05] <nixternal> have you tried that way?
[02:05] <bianconeri> I get this on the command line :"E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[02:06] <bianconeri> No I tried installing from source...now I have it in my program list but it doesn't work...
[02:06] <nixternal> sudo apt-get install vmware-player
[02:06] <nixternal> you get that error?
[02:06] <m_tadeu> why is rapip saying "could not connect to host localhost"?
[02:07] <nixternal> bianconeri: you can just enable the repositories and use the player built for ubuntu
[02:07] <bianconeri> How do I do that...I am new to Ubuntu
[02:07] <nixternal> no problem
[02:08] <nixternal> sweet..they aren't in universe/multivers...
[02:08] <nixternal> bianconeri: are you familiar with the command line at all?
[02:08] <bianconeri> btw I typed in the command you gave me its saying now:
[02:08] <bianconeri> bianconeri@bianconeri-desktop:~$  sudo apt-get install vmware-player
[02:08] <bianconeri> Password:
[02:09] <bianconeri> Reading package lists... Done
[02:09] <nixternal> type your password
[02:09] <bianconeri> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:09] <bianconeri> vmware-player is already the newest version.
[02:09] <bianconeri> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 40 not upgraded.
[02:09] <bianconeri> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[02:09] <klerfayt> firefox likes to crash after some hours of google video
[02:09] <bianconeri> Need to get 0B of archives.
[02:09] <nixternal> ahh..that is because you installed it via source
[02:09] <bianconeri> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[02:09] <bianconeri> Setting up vmware-player (1.0.1-4) ...
[02:09] <bianconeri> Now configuring VMware Player.  (This may take some time...)
[02:09] <bianconeri> Configuring a bridged network for vmnet0.
[02:09] <bianconeri> Configuring a NAT network for vmnet8.
[02:09] <bianconeri> Probing for an unused private subnet (this can take some time)...
[02:09] <bianconeri> The subnet 172.16.84.0/255.255.255.0 appears to be unused.
[02:09] <bianconeri> The file /etc/vmware/vmnet8/dhcpd/dhcpd.conf that this program was about to
[02:09] <bianconeri> install already exists.  Overwrite? [yes] 
[02:09] <bianconeri> ya I am not that ignorant:)
[02:09] <bianconeri> ya so shall I say overwrite?
[02:09] <sensei> !pastebin
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[02:10] <nixternal> to late for that sensei ;)
[02:10] <sensei> Just for future reference :)
[02:10] <nixternal> bianconeri: yes
[02:11] <bianconeri> sorry guys I didn't mean to I intended to paste the last two lines (the overwrite one)...anyways ill check out pastebin
[02:11] <nixternal> heheh
[02:11] <nixternal> bianconeri: you can use pastebin if you need to paste like that in the future
[02:11] <nixternal> you are fine
[02:11] <nixternal> no harm no foul
[02:11] <bianconeri> i chose yes 4 times for 4 different htings
[02:11] <nixternal> that is vmware for you
[02:11] <nixternal> install server, 4 is nothing ;)
[02:13] <bianconeri> Ok thanx nix ill see what happens...but I kinda have a stupid question also...I just wanna run Windows on linux nothing more nothing less...so vmplayer is what i need right?
[02:13] <DaSkreech> Or xen :)
[02:14] <abattoir> or qemu
[02:14] <nixternal> vmplayer will work, as long as you have created a silly vmplayer package...now that i am not familiar with...i use vmware server, which is huge, but easy
[02:14] <nixternal> i use vmplayer on my other systems though to connect to the vm's i created with server
[02:14] <nixternal> i don't know how to go about creating one with the player or if it is even possible
[02:14] <LjL> www.easyvmx.com is handy for creating empty VMs
[02:15] <imbrandon> qemi-img
[02:15] <imbrandon> qemu-img
[02:15] <imbrandon> i mean
[02:15] <LjL> imbrandon: that only creates the disk image AFAIK, but not the .vmx config file
[02:15] <imbrandon> or easyvmx ;)
[02:15] <m_tadeu> anyone knows anything about rapip?
[02:15] <bianconeri> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:15] <nixternal> LjL: thx for that link
[02:15] <bianconeri> same problem
[02:15] <imbrandon> LjL: yea but its easy to make a simple vmx txt file ;')
[02:15] <imbrandon> brb
[02:16] <LjL> imbrandon: if you know the syntax, then yeah, i suppose so... but easyvmx.com is there for you if you don't
[02:16] <nixternal> can you just dpkg-reconfig the vmware-player package?
[02:16] <nixternal> actually..that probably won't work eithere
[02:16] <LjL> what is the actual problem anyway?
[02:17] <nixternal> it isn't working
[02:17] <nixternal> he installed via source originally
[02:17] <LjL> like what?
[02:17] <nixternal> [19:16]  <bianconeri> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:17] <LjL> yeah, that doesn't say much though
[02:17] <LjL> but still, let me have a try
[02:17] <nixternal> take over mr vm man ;)
[02:17] <crimsun> use -D3773
[02:17] <imbrandon> hehe
[02:18] <bianconeri> ok that pastebin thingy isnt working
[02:18] <crimsun> want output? Have output.
[02:19] <LjL> bianconeri: please type       apt-cache policy linux-image-`uname -r` | grep Installed       and then type    apt-cache policy vmware-player-kernel-source  | grep Installed
[02:19] <LjL> and give us the output
[02:19] <bianconeri>   Installed: 2.6.15-23.39  ....for the first command
[02:20] <LjL> bianconeri: oh sorry, the second one is wrong
[02:20] <bianconeri>  Installed: (none) for the second one:D
[02:20] <LjL> apt-cache policy vmware-player-kernel-modules | grep Installed
[02:20] <BrigadierFrog> why does the installer crash when installing grub ?
[02:20] <BrigadierFrog> and can I make it use lilo instead
[02:20] <LjL> bianconeri: hmm you still have kernel -23. there is -25 around from the security repo
[02:21] <bianconeri> @ LjL:  Installed: 2.6.15.10-7...for the second one
[02:21] <LjL> bianconeri: ok, then i think i know what the problem is
[02:21] <imbrandon> dist-upgrade
[02:21] <bianconeri> enlighten me:)
[02:22] <LjL> bianconeri: you have the vmware modules that were made for kernel version 2.6.15-25, but you have kernel 2.6.15-23
[02:22] <bianconeri> since I installed from the wrong source?
[02:22] <LjL> bianconeri: you need to get the newer kernel. try the dist-upgrade first, and if that doesn't give you the new kernel, then pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:22] <bianconeri> I installed the latest kubuntu image a week ago
[02:22] <LjL> bianconeri: no. i don't really know why you don't have the newer kernel. you should have got it from the security updates..
[02:23] <BrigadierFrog> does grub require ext2, I just read that somewhere
[02:23] <BrigadierFrog> I was unaware of that requirement
[02:23] <bianconeri> ok which brings us to...how do I upgrade the kernal:D
[02:23] <imbrandon> bianconeri: type " sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade " then reboot and see if you have the new kernel
[02:23] <imbrandon> BrigadierFrog: no
[02:23] <LjL> bianconeri: like i said, "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:23] <LjL> bianconeri: if that gives you a new kernel, you'll notice
[02:23] <BrigadierFrog> ok, thats what I thought...
[02:24] <BrigadierFrog> then why in the hell does the install crash when it tries to install grub I wonder
[02:24] <LjL> bianconeri: if it doesn't, then your /etc/apt/sources.list is wrong and we'll have to fix it
[02:24] <sensei> Where's the changelogs for kubuntu packages? Like now I noticed there's a new package for passwd available for me.. where can I track the changes?
[02:24] <imbrandon> BrigadierFrog: what is your partition setup >?
[02:24] <bianconeri> E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-....i got this on the last line ...is that normal?
[02:24] <BrigadierFrog> hda1 15gb ntfs
[02:24] <BrigadierFrog> hda2 xfs 8gb
[02:24] <BrigadierFrog> hda3 swap 1gb
[02:25] <BrigadierFrog> hda4 xfs 11gb
[02:25] <imbrandon> sensei: grub != xfs
[02:25] <LjL> sensei: perhaps you could use apt-listchanges
[02:25] <LjL> bianconeri: no, it's not. paste the entire output on the apstebin please
[02:25] <imbrandon> err BrigadierFrog grub != xfs
[02:25] <BrigadierFrog> you asked for partition setup, I told you...
[02:25] <BrigadierFrog> what are you talking about
[02:26] <sensei> LjL: I'll check it out, thanks
[02:26] <h3sp4wn> grub cannot be installed on an xfs partition (at least with the kubuntu installer)
[02:26] <bianconeri> lol ur gonna kill me....but how do i use pastebin...I am new to IRC also:S
[02:26] <BrigadierFrog> then why the hell doesn't it say so when I'm installing
[02:26] <BrigadierFrog> fuck, gotta reinstall again
[02:26] <imbrandon> language please
[02:26] <h3sp4wn> 100meg mounted on /boot ext3 and you are fine
[02:26] <actinic> !pastebin
[02:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:26] <LjL> bianconeri: just go to the pastebin site, at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org , and paste the output there. then give me the URL address of your paste
[02:27] <sysrpn> is 10GB a parition too small for ubuntu/kubuntu?
[02:27] <LjL> sysrpn: no
[02:27] <BrigadierFrog> well, user friendly linux includes, you know, explaining what won't work
[02:27] <imbrandon> sensei: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com
[02:27] <Kr4t05> sysrpn, nope, not at all.
[02:27] <imbrandon> brb
[02:27] <sysrpn> i am considering a dual boot thing here
[02:27] <bianconeri> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17293
[02:27] <sensei> ty imbrandon
[02:27] <BrigadierFrog> well what about ext3
[02:27] <BrigadierFrog> will it install on ext3 ?
[02:27] <LjL> sure
[02:27] <TheHighChild> yes
[02:27] <imbrandon> BrigadierFrog: ext3 is fine
[02:27] <BrigadierFrog> great
[02:28] <LjL> ext3 is the default filesystem in Ubuntu
[02:28] <sysrpn> will the live dapper drake dvd make dual booting simple?
[02:28] <BrigadierFrog> xfs worked fine the last version
[02:28] <BrigadierFrog> I had / xfs and /home xfs, no problems
[02:28] <DaSkreech> I have /home xfs
[02:28] <LjL> bianconeri: uhm... that doesn't really sound like a serious problem. but still, before trying again, please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list - i think there's something weird going on there
[02:28] <DaSkreech> For some reason the installer doesn't like /xfs
[02:28] <imbrandon> BrigadierFrog: but not xfs /boot
[02:29] <BrigadierFrog> I didn't have a /boot
[02:29] <BrigadierFrog> I was using lilo
[02:29] <BrigadierFrog> because you know, it works good
[02:29] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know anything about Crossfire? (The game)
[02:29] <LjL> sysrpn: dual booting has never been a problem for me...
[02:29] <imbrandon> lilo != grub ;)
[02:29] <BrigadierFrog> I noticed...
[02:29] <LjL> sysrpn: the ubuntu installer just installs grub, which recognizes my windows partition and lets me boot from there. always worked quite well for me
[02:29] <h3sp4wn> grub is suppost to work with xfs
[02:30] <bianconeri> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17294
[02:30] <imbrandon> h3sp4wn: supose to and reality are two diffrent things
[02:31] <LjL> bianconeri: ouch automatix... anyway, the sources.list seems to be good enough
[02:31] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: It has been specifically stated as added to grub I think its something ubuntu has done that has broken it
[02:31] <LjL> bianconeri: just run "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade", without the "-y" option
[02:32] <BrigadierFrog> h3sp4wn: like cups ?
[02:32] <LjL> bianconeri: and when it says that the packages are not authenticated and wether you want to continue... well, either follow the procedure for adding a GPG key, or ignore that and continue. your choice
[02:32] <LjL> !gpgerr
[02:32] <ubotu> Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Read the top section of http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:32] <h3sp4wn> BrigadierFrog: I don't use it fortunately
[02:32] <BrigadierFrog> h3sp4wn: well its broken... you have to go config yourself to make it work the right way
[02:33] <sensei> Should the user really be presented with the python traceback when apt-listchange a package that doesn't have an entry ?
[02:33] <sensei> Could be confusing for the vast less knowing userbase kubuntu has
[02:33] <bianconeri> @ LjL I accepted and ignored....waiting for it to finish....whats so wrong with automatix?:P
[02:33] <mankey> the new amarok packages, from http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141, are similar to the ones in http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/, or are they more stable?
[02:33] <h3sp4wn> BrigadierFrog: I use the bsd lpd/lpr with a really old laserjet which causes me no problems (on the rare occasions I need to print)
[02:34] <LjL> sensei: er, i stopped using apt-listchanges long ago. don't quite remember how it worked
[02:34] <mankey> i mean, are they more official?
[02:34] <LjL> bianconeri: well, it's broken and does bad things. at least that's what the bot used to say, before that factoid was changed. anyway, everybody's always recommended against automatix in these channels
[02:34] <sensei> LjL: No biggie.. just looked so unkubuntuish :)
[02:35] <LjL> !automatix
[02:35] <sensei> Anyways, can't find the login package on changelogs.ubuntu.com
[02:35] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[02:35] <LjL> now the ubuntu factoid is much easier on it
[02:35] <LjL> by the way, there is also...
[02:35] <LjL> !easyubuntu
[02:35] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:35] <imbrandon> mankey: amarok-141 and amarok-latest are the same , they are symlinked
[02:35] <actinic> i've had no problems with automatix
[02:35] <sensei> Shouldn't 'login' be in the main/ ?
[02:36] <LjL> !info login
[02:36] <ubotu> login: system login tools. In repository main, is required. Version 1:4.0.13-7ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 235 kB, installed size 2036 kB
[02:36] <BrigadierFrog> does the installer put grub in the mbr by default
[02:36] <LjL> BrigadierFrog: yes
[02:36] <mankey> imbrandon: then why did i get the rss only today?
[02:36] <BrigadierFrog> so then it should overwrite lilo if lilo is there correct
[02:36] <BrigadierFrog> so long as grub can install
[02:36] <bianconeri> I downloaded it but didn't work...I didnt really spend much time on it figuring out whats wrong...so you reccomend easyubuntu over automatix
[02:36] <bianconeri> ?
[02:36] <imbrandon> mankey: it was just packaged last night
[02:36] <vksunder> asdf
[02:36] <tony__> can someone tell me how to register again?
[02:36] <BrigadierFrog> well, hopefully it'll install this time...
[02:36] <imbrandon> !register
[02:36] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:36] <sensei> LjL: Okay, so there aren't changelogs for everything? :O
[02:36] <tony__> thanks
[02:37] <LjL> bianconeri: i recommend using neither, myself. but yeah, i suppose if i really had to try one of the two, i'd choose easyubuntu
[02:37] <LjL> sensei: i think not
[02:37] <mankey> imbrandon: what is the previous "amarok-latest" version? 1.4.0?
[02:37] <imbrandon> 1.4.0a
[02:37] <LjL> bianconeri: but now that you've already used automatix, *don't* use easyubuntu
[02:37] <sensei> Okay.. why ? :O Security by obscurity? Laziness? Or what's the plan? :)
[02:37] <TheHighChild> !tell tony__ about register
[02:37] <LjL> bianconeri: just leave everything as it, and hope it's been nice
[02:37] <bianconeri> So you will teach me how to remove automatix...but not now let me finish with vmplayer first:P
[02:37] <LjL> sensei: i vote laziness
[02:38] <sensei> Hehe okay
[02:38] <LjL> bianconeri: i don't think there is a way to "remove" it other than reinstalling
[02:38] <sensei> Yeah, sounds most open sourceish I suppose
[02:38] <mankey> imbrandon: is it unstable?
[02:38] <TheHighChild> tony__: How did it go?
[02:38] <LjL> bianconeri: automatix is not a program that stays running on your system. it's a script that changes configuration files and installs stuff.
[02:38] <LjL> so you can't remove it
[02:38] <imbrandon> mankey: its stable just not officialy supported
[02:39] <actinic> did you guys know there's automatix for kubuntu now?
[02:39] <Zaire> amarok is decent I myself prefer xmms
[02:39] <imbrandon> actinic: yes we know
[02:39] <LjL> actinic: ah, so they decided kubuntu is not buggy enough by itself? :)
[02:39] <imbrandon> NON SUPPORT in #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:39] <actinic> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203294&highlight=kubuntu
[02:39] <bianconeri> aha ill just leave it lurking there then....if its unadvisable then I won't use it...I went to hell and back lots of times before when installing programs:P SO i think i could handle it
[02:40] <imbrandon> NON SUPPORT in #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:40] <actinic> errror error, non support, non support
[02:40] <LjL> !caps
[02:40] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:40] <LjL> :-)
[02:40] <Zaire> danger will robinson lol
[02:40] <tony__> it keeps telling me my name is already register
[02:40] <imbrandon> LjL: some obivouisly cant
[02:41] <TheHighChild> tony__: didn't you just register it?
[02:41] <tony__> yeah, but apparently i can't im you
[02:41] <LjL> imbrandon: uhm, does *one* like (a link) after your first warning count as "some obviously can't"?
[02:41] <mankey> imbrandon: when will we get an officially supported version and IN WHICH REPO?
[02:41] <LjL> s/like/line/
[02:41] <mankey> imbrandon: backports?
[02:41] <crimsun> mankey: 1.4.1 has been uploaded to Edgy already.
[02:41] <LjL> mankey: of what, amarok? i think nowhere
[02:42] <imbrandon> mankey: for dapper its unlikely and it would be in backports
[02:42] <tony__> do i go to settings...identities to change it?
[02:42] <apokryphos> !amarok
[02:42] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[02:42] <bianconeri> so LjL I should wait for it to finish and then restart and check my kernal..(what is the command for that btw?)....then come back here so you can help me with vmplayer?
[02:42] <Zaire> k can anyone tell me which nvidia driver I should apt for my XFX FX 5200 my cards 3 years old so was curious if I need the GLX or legacy
[02:42] <imbrandon> mankey: kubuntu.org repos will be as close as you get to "official" for a while
[02:42] <mankey> is edgy already quite useable?
[02:42] <LjL> we know about that apokryphos, but he was looking for something more official. but i don't think there'll be any such thing for dapper
[02:42] <crimsun> kubuntu.org is, for all practical purposes, official
[02:43] <imbrandon> mankey: no
[02:43] <DaSkreech> mankey: It's Bloody fast
[02:43] <apokryphos> LjL: the repository is quite official
[02:43] <DaSkreech> mankey: Jackknifes through stuff
[02:43] <Zaire> crimsun: which nvidia driver I should apt for my XFX FX 5200 my cards 3 years old so was curious if I need the GLX or legacy
[02:43] <DaSkreech> It's like sliding on a knife's blade
[02:43] <mankey> imbrandon: thank you
[02:43] <TheHighChild> tony__: Honeslt man, I/m not sure off hand, there;s a /msg nickserv command that lets you login
[02:43] <LjL> bianconeri: "uname -r" gives you the kernel version, but that's no use, because it gives the version of the *currently* running kernel. just look in the list of packages that are being downloaded if among the others there is a "linux-image-something" package
[02:43] <crimsun> Zaire: FX 5200? the non-legacy one iirc.
[02:44] <sensei> Zaire: glx for sure
[02:44] <DaSkreech> mankey: Also updates like 3 times every 5 seconds :)
[02:44] <Zaire> crimsun: iirc? FX 5200 yes
[02:44] <sensei> Although I have no idea why you call it 'glx'
[02:44] <LjL> apokryphos: definitely less official than dapper, dapper-security, dapper-updates and dapper-backports though... otherwise i can't see why new versions amarok (like koffice and kde) aren't simply but in backports. same used to go for breezy
[02:45] <bianconeri> @ LjL: So far nothing
[02:45] <apokryphos> LjL: I agree they should be, too, but that's not where they go. I don't think backports is used much for Kubuntu packs like that.
[02:45] <mankey> DaSkreech: then maybe i should wait one or two weeks before i upgrade to edgy
[02:45] <LjL> bianconeri: are a lot of other packages being updated though? if yes, then you should probably run dist-upgrade more often. security fixes are important to get
[02:45] <Zaire> ?
[02:46] <LjL> well, joining #ubuntu+1 still gives me
[02:46] <LjL> [02:47]  [Notice]  -ChanServ- [#ubuntu+1]  Edgy Eft is not yet usable. Please don't use it yet.
[02:46] <bianconeri> 84 mb
[02:46] <LjL> so yeah, i definitely guess so
[02:46] <actinic> generally when updates are available do most go ahead?
[02:47] <crimsun> LjL: there's a very simple reason they're not in backports. We can't pull in new packages.
[02:47] <crimsun> LjL: perhaps the more important reason is that the soyuz infrastructure to handle backports is WIP
[02:48] <Zaire> so I need GLX then I take it
[02:48] <LjL> bianconeri: do upgrade more often. actually, Ubuntu is supposed to download updates automatically... the reason it's not doing that for you is probably the GPG error that you got earlier, which itself is (i assume) caused by the fact that you have some non-standard repos in your sources.list
[02:48] <TheHighChild> I've installed 'linux-686' and that was cool. When i do a dist-upgrade it wants to install all the 386 packages. Am I missing something? Or am I out of the loop/
[02:49] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: Removed linux-386 ?
[02:49] <TheHighChild> h3sp4wn: no, where do i do that at?
[02:49] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: And purged all the 386 kernels ?
[02:49] <TheHighChild> h3sp4wn: sorry, still a nub
[02:49] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: sudo aptitude remove linux-386
[02:50] <bianconeri> LOL so I pretty much screwed up my system:P...no problem ill just do it from the command line:D
[02:50] <TheHighChild> h3sp4wn: Thanks man. You're always barreling! I appreciate it
[02:50] <bianconeri> @ LjL: linux-image-2.6.15-25-386 2.6.15-25.43  downloading this now
[02:50] <LjL> bianconeri: no, not really. at least not from what i can say judging from your sources.list... which is quite reasonable, except for that couple of non-standard repos (which contains codecs, i suppose) at the end of the list
[02:51] <LjL> bianconeri: ok. then if everything installs without errors, i'm almost sure you'll able to get vmware player running after a reboot
[02:51] <LjL> by the way, is vmware player *supposed* to only be runnable as root?
[02:51] <bianconeri> aha great...will you be hanging around here within the next hour?
[02:51] <LjL> (guess so though... it needs its kernel modules)
[02:52] <LjL> bianconeri: yeah i think so
[02:52] <bianconeri> I don't know...I never tried it this is my first time:D
[02:53] <LjL> bianconeri: wasn't asking to you, i was asking to the channel in general :-) it's just that this talking about vmware reminded me that i wanted to ask this question
[02:53] <marcio> mac
[02:53] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: aptitude search linux-image~i (and then - sudo aptitude purge anyoftheoneswith386inthem)
[02:53] <TheHighChild> will these flags/options work with apt-get?
[02:53] <bianconeri> Ok then...Ill just wait for it to finish downloading and shut up:P
[02:54] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: Use aptitude for the search one
[02:54] <TheHighChild> nvm guess not
[02:54] <TheHighChild> gotcha, thanks
[02:55] <h3sp4wn> apt-get remove may work but purge gets rid of things better I find (only ever use aptitude)
[02:55] <jinho> hi I'm just curious- is anyone here using a radeon 9200 and has it working perfectly w/ OpenGL?
[02:56] <Ertain> How do I burn an NRG image file?
[02:56] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: apt-get remove --purge
[02:57] <TheHighChild> h3sp4wn: can aptitude be used like apt-get i.e 'aptitude install spank-blah' ? or do I have to navigate the interface?
[02:57] <imbrandon> Ertain: buy nero for linux or use a standard iso next time
[02:57] <DaSkreech> TheHighChild: Try it
[02:57] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: It can for most things
[02:57] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: You can't do aptitude source blah though
[02:57] <DaSkreech> imbrandon: As I recall in Nero 5 it was just a renamed iso
[02:58] <LjL> bianconeri: i think you should consider commenting out the last four (uncommented) lines in your sources.list anyway. at any rate, any packages that you might have installed from those repositories will stay installed
[02:58] <LjL> bianconeri: and you'll probably stop getting the GPG errors, and most importantly automatic updates will work
[02:58] <DaSkreech> I don't know if that changed in subsequent versions
[02:58] <h3sp4wn> What about nrg2iso ?
[02:58] <jinho> no one using a 9200?
[02:59] <Ertain> h3sp4wn: Tried that.  The ensuing ISO could not be used by K3B.  I even used the isovfy command to verify it.
[02:59] <Zaire> !ati
[02:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:59] <h3sp4wn> Ertain: Tried cdrecord ?
[02:59] <LjL> h3sp4wn: using aptitude to search is a bit of a hassle imho... it doesn't search into descriptions without some awkward search patterns :\
[03:00] <h3sp4wn> LjL: Think the way aptitude does search is alot more powerful
[03:00] <salvador> hola
[03:00] <Ertain> h3sp4wn: I will try cdrecord.
[03:00] <bianconeri> Ok ill try that:)
[03:00] <h3sp4wn> LjL: I only use apt-get source (and aptitude or dpkg-*)
[03:01] <LjL> h3sp4wn: yeah, if you want to do "powerful" searches. but if you just want to make a plain search for names and descriptions, apt-cache becomes easier
[03:01] <LjL> h3sp4wn: aptitude searches a bit slower, besides
[03:02] <Ertain> Uh... How does one use cdrecord to verify an ISO file?
[03:02] <LjL> cdrecord to verify an iso...?
[03:02] <LjL> i use md5sum to verify an iso
[03:02] <Ertain> Or rather, how would I know that the ISO file will burn?
[03:03] <LjL> Ertain: well, you can loop-mount it i suppose. if it mounts, i think it should burn too
[03:03] <LjL> !iso
[03:03] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[03:03] <Ertain> That's the problem: it won't mount.
[03:04] <LjL> if it doesn't mount, it's most probably broken.
[03:04] <Ertain> And that's the problem I keep finding.
[03:05] <LjL> what kind of ISO is that? is it a publicly available ISO?
[03:06] <wezlo> hey gang, I'm having a weird problem with my wireless interface, it keeps changing it's number from eth1 to eth2 randomly...
[03:06] <wezlo> ...on boot that is
[03:06] <LjL> wezlo: perhaps it's got a dynamic MAC address
[03:06] <Ertain> No, I convert an NRG file to an ISO file.  I need to make sure that it will burn, so I try to mount it.  But it won't mount.
[03:08] <wezlo> LjL, I don't think so - it only started doing this in dapper and my router is filtered to specific mac addresses so if it changed I'd keep getting dropped
[03:09] <LjL> wezlo: hm, well... still, the best advice i can give is a "man iftab". even if it's not a problem with MAC changing, there's probably a way in iftab to fix that card to a network interface identifier
[03:09] <wezlo> LjL, thanks I'll check that out
[03:09] <TheHighChild> h3sp4wn: Is it possible to purge everything 386? When I try some packages, it just installs a new candidate
[03:10] <wezlo> LjL, it wouldn't be a problem except that vmware can't get to the network when it's on the wrong interface
[03:10] <lutty711> Question:: How do I get the configure script for dvdstyler to find wxSVG?? I know svg.h is in /usr/include, but dvdstyler says its not present....thanks
[03:10] <LjL> wezlo: perhaps "businfo". mind you, i'm looking at that for the first time myself... but i suppose that if you could "teach" iftab how exactly to reach that card, it should stop getting confused about it
[03:11] <wezlo> LjL thanks, I'm wondering if there's a residual config from breezy that's screwing it up
[03:11] <LjL> wezlo: perhaps check out also "apt-cache show ifrename"
[03:11] <bianconeri> @LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17295 ....this is the output after the update...still getting an error
[03:11] <wezlo> LjL, many thanks - let me run those commands and see what I come up with
[03:12] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: Try sudo aptitude purge ~nimage~n386 (check its not going to remove anything stupid first)
[03:13] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: Try sudo aptitude purge ~nimage~n386 (check its not going to remove anything stupid first) and sudo aptitude purge ~nrestricted~n386
[03:13] <LjL> bianconeri: does "apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.15-25-386 | grep Installed" show up anything?
[03:13] <DaSkreech> http://bash.org/?368808
[03:13] <TheHighChild> h3sp4wn: Got it. Thanks again for all your help. Gonna reboot and make sure things are cool.
[03:13] <DaSkreech> Man I hate this site. I never get anythign done
[03:14] <wezlo> LjL, ok that's just weird
[03:14] <wezlo> LjL, if I upgrade to the dapper version of ifrename I have to uninstall virtually the entire desktop installation
[03:14] <bianconeri>  Installed: 2.6.15-25.43
[03:14] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: Look at /boot/grub/menu.lst (check there are no 386 kernels left)
[03:15] <wezlo> LjL, including - ubuntu-base....??
[03:15] <h3sp4wn> wezlo: There is a way of binding specific interface names to mac addresses
[03:15] <LjL> bianconeri: ok, then reboot and run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" again. i think it should work then.
[03:16] <jerry> there's a lot of very warm air coming out of the back of my computer. Is that normal?
[03:16] <LjL> wezlo: hm that's probably because it conflicts with the "wireless-tools" package, apparently
[03:16] <wezlo> LjL, oh man it took forever to upgrade the first time...
[03:16] <bianconeri> ok brb
[03:16] <TheHighChild> h3sp4wn: nothing shows when I cat it out. But when i type 'sudo aptitude search linux-image' it still shows me all of the same packages. Normal?
[03:17] <LjL> wezlo: so forget about that and see what h3sp4wn has to say about binding names to interfaces. i'm reading ifconfig man page now for information about aliases..
[03:17] <wezlo> h3sp4wn, what's the easiest way to bind mac addresses to interface names?
[03:17] <wezlo> LjL, thanks for the help
[03:17] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: Look at the right hand side p means not installed i means installed
[03:18] <TheHighChild> h3sp4wn: what about c ?
[03:18] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: config is still there
[03:18] <TheHighChild> ok, thanks man, you pwn
[03:18] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: run purge on them and it will change to p
[03:19] <h3sp4wn> wezlo: I am trying to remember it is a file in /etc/ with a really easy syntax I just can't remember what it is called
[03:19] <LjL> h3sp4wn: aren't you just thinking about /etc/iftab again?
[03:20] <wezlo> LjL, yah, that's it..
[03:20] <wezlo> guys, thanks - that's REALLY easy
[03:20] <LjL> that's the file that "man iftab" is about.
[03:21] <LjL> but it should keep consistent names for interfaces automatically, unless the MAC is changing
[03:21] <wezlo> LjL, was just about to run that command
[03:21] <wezlo> thanks!
[03:21] <h3sp4wn> LjL: Does that not work in dapper ?
[03:22] <LjL> h3sp4wn: well, i couldn't swear that that file isn't overwritten automatically at each boot... but in any case, it remains to be seen why his network card isn't assigned a consistent name *by default*
[03:22] <h3sp4wn> LjL: I used it in breezy once and it worked fine
[03:22] <LjL> h3sp4wn: in theory, /etc/iftab should be set up automatically by Ubuntu so that it lists the MAC of your interfaces and the respective names they've been given
[03:22] <wezlo> LjL, there was a file somewhere that renamed it from wlan0 to eth* where * is the lowest available interface
[03:23] <wezlo> I'm not sure why it was doing this in breezy, but it was...
[03:23] <LjL> my iftab says   eth0 mac 00:30:ab:0b:f8:08 arp 1     , and i certainly didn't write this manually
[03:23] <RawSewage> why do you prononounce GNOME as  Guh Nome
[03:23] <RawSewage> thats stupid
[03:23] <h3sp4wn> My /etc/iftab is empty
[03:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> RawSewage: That's how it's supposed to be pronounced. :P
[03:23] <RawSewage> I know
[03:23] <RawSewage> its still stupid
[03:23] <LjL> RawSewage: is that important?
[03:24] <RawSewage> as important as anything
[03:24] <wezlo> more importantly, RawSewage, why complain about gnome pronounciation in the kubuntu channel?
[03:24] <RawSewage> I dont now
[03:24] <RawSewage> Please forgive me
[03:25] <bianconeri> LjL: I am back...restarted and ran apt-get dist-upgrade...and got this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17298
[03:26] <LjL> bianconeri: bah... try "sudo apt-get --reinstall install vmware-player vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-25"
[03:26] <TheHighChild> What happens if you install 32 bit kubuntu on an amd64 with a 686 kernel?
[03:26] <RawSewage> it will work
[03:26] <LjL> bianconeri: failing that, try running "/usr/bin/vmware-config.pl" as it suggests
[03:26] <OOD> yea im runnign that setup now
[03:27] <TheHighChild> Will it perform any better? Just curious, in aptitude it says its for the Pentium line
[03:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> RawSewage: Because it's GNU Network Object Model Environment, and GNU (from what I've heard) is pronounced Guh-Noo
[03:27] <TheHighChild> OOD: I am running it at home, just wondering if it's a performance hit
[03:27] <RawSewage> CheeseBurgerMan, ok ty
[03:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> At least, that's my guess. :)
[03:27] <RawSewage> sounds right
[03:28] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: You want the k7 or if you are brave You can try a 64 bit kernel with a 32 bit userland
[03:29] <TheHighChild> h3sp4wn: oh? That sounds interesting. I did a 64 bit install before but the desktop apps were way too sluggish (2-3 minutes to open oowriter)
[03:29] <LjL> i'm not sure this is something one should be terribly worried about at any rate. i mean, i don't think the difefrence in speed between running 386, 686 or K7 are really that important
[03:29] <OOD> h3sp4wn: how would i get the 64-bit kernel on 32-bit kununtu>
[03:29] <TheHighChild> h3sp4wn: and no, I'm not brave, just stupid sometimes
[03:30] <h3sp4wn> OOD/TheHighChild: Build one yourself
[03:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> TheHighChild: Really? Mind didn't take that long. Probably only ~30 seconds.
[03:30] <wezlo> thanks gang, I gotta run...
[03:30] <TheHighChild> CheeseBurgerMan: Sometimes up to 5 minutes, if at all.
[03:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> Wow, that's very slow.
[03:30] <OOD> h3sp4wn: damm, though there was an easy way out :P, maybe some day
[03:31] <TheHighChild> CheeseBurgerMan: I know. Thought the KDE packages were slow but I lived. I hadnled the two differnet broswers for java/flash, etc but I couldn't handle not being able to use Open Office. It'd have been faster to do a wine install of MSOffice
[03:31] <bianconeri> @ LjL...didnt work and the file /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl (the one it suggest) Doesnt exist...BUT vmware-config-network.pl does
[03:32] <DaSkreech> TheHighChild: Mexican President?
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> TheHighChild: You totally had something wrong there, it shouldn't be like that. (and you should've used KOffice :P)
[03:32] <TheHighChild> DaSkreech: Any Presidente
[03:32] <DaSkreech> He less than a 1% chance there :)
[03:32] <TheHighChild> CheeseBurgerMan: No, never used koffice, is it good?
[03:32] <DaSkreech> s/He/He has/
[03:32] <TheHighChild> Good
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> TheHighChild: Yes. :-)
[03:33] <TheHighChild> CheeseBurgerMan: Will check it out. Does it handle .doc files?
[03:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> I personally use it over OOo
[03:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> Now that's where it kinda lacks...which is why I still have OOo
[03:33] <RawSewage> it probably loads faster than OOo
[03:33] <TheHighChild> I just use OO because I started about 2 years on Windows trying to bring The Man down a peg and stuck with it
[03:34] <TheHighChild> lol
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> RawSewage: Yeah, it uses QT rather than Java. Makes it load a good bit faster.
[03:34] <RawSewage> has OO become the man yet
[03:34] <RawSewage> eww  OO uses Java?
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> Doesn't it?
[03:34] <RawSewage> I dont know
[03:34] <TheHighChild> I don't think so
[03:35] <RawSewage> Java programs are slow and buggy
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> I thought it used Java. It has a Java option in there.
[03:35] <TheHighChild> I dig java apps. They're at least consistent. Mem hogs but I'm a memwhore
[03:37] <LjL> bianconeri: duh.
[03:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://user-faq.openoffice.org/faq/ar01s04.html#JAVA
[03:37] <TheHighChild> CheeseBurgerMan: http://download.openoffice.org/2.0.2/java.html
[03:37] <Ahmuck> ! wireless
[03:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:37] <LjL> bianconeri: anyway, does that mean that it's all working now?
[03:37] <TheHighChild> only for database table fucntionality
[03:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> TheHighChild: hehe, gmta
[03:38] <TheHighChild> gmta?
[03:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> Great Minds Think Alike
[03:39] <RawSewage> I need to try out XFCE
[03:39] <RawSewage> just for fun
[03:39] <RawSewage> actually, it might be good on the laptop
[03:39] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: make menuconfig ARCH=x86_64 - You need libc6-amd64 I think also if you are using dapper 2.6.16 builds with few problems just select everything as modules "make-kpkg --initrd --revision=custom4 --append-to-version=-v1 binary" - If you want to do it it won't be that hard
[03:39] <johno> hey, has anyone got nforce5 working with ubuntu yet?
[03:39] <bianconeri> no its not:S
[03:40] <johno> dang
[03:40] <TheHighChild> nice! Thanks h3sp4wn
[03:43] <Zaire> anyone with an HP computer should read this http://news.com.com/2100-7355_3-6090825.html?part=rss&tag=6090825&subj=news
[03:43] <SpAwN> hello all...has anyone been able to get the official nvidia driver installed......i know the one from the ubuntu repos is recomended but i was talking to someone in #cedega and was telling him about the problem im having and he said its most likly a driver issue....
[03:44] <OOD> the one in the repo is the official driver
[03:44] <Zaire> article link is from digg about HP hacking into customer computers
[03:44] <SpAwN> OOD: i know but i think it doesnt do somthing that the official one does
[03:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> Zaire: WTF
[03:44] <SpAwN> like sym links or somthing
[03:44] <OOD> it's the exact same driver
[03:44] <SpAwN> because the games doesnt work on it
[03:45] <Zaire> I got the article link from digg.com
[03:45] <OOD> then you haven't set it up properly
[03:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, I know. I was more WTF-ing HP
[03:45] <SpAwN> well all i know is that the one in the ubuntu repos doesnt work
[03:45] <SpAwN> and yes i do have it set up.....
[03:45] <driz> !nvidia
[03:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:45] <SpAwN> i have opengl rendering......
[03:45] <Zaire> yea thats what Im thinking I know now Im never getting an HP related product again
[03:45] <OOD> it's the same driver
[03:46] <SpAwN> then why does it flake out and crash?....
[03:46] <OOD> don't know, but they're the exact same driver
[03:46] <SpAwN> its the only thing that keeps coming up when im explaining my problem
[03:47] <OOD> ill brb
[03:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> Zaire: Supposedly "Customers must give permission for HP to scan their systems. They can specify that certain servers or devices are not included in the scan, if they are concerned that it would cause disruption."
[03:48] <Zaire> disruption how about using the info they see for corruption
[03:49] <SpAwN> but i dont see a single article on setting up one from the official site...and when i do set up the official one it compiles and does everything right...it says it succefully installed the driver...i even double check the xorg.conf to make sure the "nvidia" driver is being loaded and then i restart x....and nothing....it gets stuck at the kubuntu loading screen
[03:49] <Zaire> if someone asked me if they could hack my computer like that I would tell then to go to H**ll
[03:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> Zaire: Yeah we'll see if I actually get contacted...
[03:53] <Zaire> k one of the packages for the drivers is the nvidia-glx whats the other one?
[03:54] <SpAwN> linux-restricted-modules
[03:55] <SpAwN> its all in the nvidia driver howto
[03:55] <greg> Hi guys. What would be the easiest way to transfer some mp3 files to my brother who is running windows?
[03:55] <SpAwN> smb
[03:55] <SpAwN> or samba
[03:55] <fiyawerx> !flash
[03:55] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:55] <Maxentius> Thumb drive
[03:56] <fiyawerx> is it hard to get flash and java working with konq?
[03:56] <RawSewage> no
[03:56] <Maxentius> Flash worked "out of the box" for me in Konq.
[03:56] <RawSewage> it did?
[03:56] <RawSewage> I dont think so
[03:56] <Maxentius> I went to macromedia, and I had a flash animation.
[03:56] <fiyawerx> ?
[03:56] <fiyawerx> with kubuntu/
[03:57] <Maxentius> Hmmm. Maybe I installed it via firefox forst.
[03:57] <fiyawerx> did you run easy-ubuntu or automatix?
[03:57] <fiyawerx> i tried both and neither worked fulyl right for me, so gonna try to just do it manually
[03:57] <sysrpn> hi
[03:57] <usp8riot> anyone in here use amule?
[03:57] <Maxentius> No, I used the alternate CD
[03:58] <uuuubsd>  is it possible to install realplayer in live cd
[03:58] <sysrpn> is there anything i should know before trying to setup a dual boot install from a live 6.06 dvd?
[03:58] <SpAwN> sysrpn: install windows 1st
[03:58] <sysrpn> i'm on windows now
[03:58] <fiyawerx> sysrpn: as long as win is installed first, it works great for me, you can even resize the windows partition with no problem
[03:58] <SpAwN> then u should be cool.....
[03:58] <Zaire> there nvidia logo showed and all
[03:58] <uuuubsd> you could use grub, then you don't have to install windows first
[03:58] <sysrpn> okay, thanks
[03:59] <uuuubsd> what about my question
[03:59] <SpAwN> uuuubsd: id think so....but not sure
[03:59] <uuuubsd> can i install realplayer after booting to live cd?
[03:59] <SpAwN> give it a try
[03:59] <fiyawerx> !flash
[03:59] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:00] <bulltitan> hi
[04:00] <usp8riot> does anyone know if kubuntu has a default firewall?
[04:01] <bulltitan> i'm trying to install vmware with no luck because even if i am root i won't copy the files and the installation aborts
[04:01] <bulltitan> what can i do
[04:01] <Maxentius> usp, it does not. But you can install kmyfirewall to configure one. All ports are closed by default in kubuntu
[04:01] <bulltitan> i tryed su but i tells me that the password is wrong (i'm using the same password than with sudo)
[04:01] <usp8riot> i ran a firewall test and it didn't find any open ports and i don't think it's running a firewall
[04:02] <usp8riot> ok, thanks maxentius
[04:02] <Maxentius> usp, as I said, all ports are closed, there are no services running.
[04:02] <Zaire> holy crap I have dual monitors lol
[04:02] <usp8riot> could you give me a lamens guide on opening those ports?
[04:02] <hareem> is there a compiler for kubuntu
[04:02] <fiyawerx> gcc?
[04:02] <bulltitan> anyone have any idea about my question?
[04:02] <fiyawerx> hareem: you may want apt-get install build-essential if you're compling things
[04:02] <SpAwN> bulltitan: use "sudo command"
[04:02] <hareem> ok thanks
[04:03] <bulltitan> i did
[04:03] <fiyawerx> right, sudo that i mean
[04:03] <SpAwN> and enter the USERS pass
[04:03] <sysrpn> okay
[04:03] <SpAwN> the one u use to logo  on
[04:03] <Zaire> however my screen is kinda stretched and all wierd
[04:03] <Maxentius> usp, install a web server, or an ftp server, and kububntu should have them open. Alternatively, yo ucould set kmyfirewall to allow ports.
[04:03] <Maxentius> but if there is no service it will show up as closed.
[04:03] <sysrpn> i'm about to start my second the install; i'm not looking forward to setting up wpa wireless again
[04:03] <bulltitan> ok let me try and i'll tell you
[04:04] <hareem> its not working
[04:04] <usp8riot> ok, thanks
[04:04] <hareem> fiyawerx your code gives me a message. bad command
[04:04] <tulga> I need "invisible login" to yahoo from kopete. is it possible?
[04:05] <Zaire> brb lol
[04:05] <hareem> is there any compiler for kubuntu
[04:05] <fiyawerx> hmm video.google.com uses flash right?
[04:05] <Zaire> there we go
[04:05] <bulltitan> spawn
[04:05] <bulltitan> Unable to copy the source file ./installer/services.sh to the destination file
[04:05] <bulltitan> /etc/init.d/vmware.
[04:05] <fiyawerx> i installed flashplugin-nonfree, told konq to scan for new plugins, and it's still not working on video.google
[04:06] <Zaire> yay 2 monitors lol
[04:06] <bulltitan> and i did the sudo thing
[04:06] <SpAwN> bulltitan: not sure man.....sorry
[04:06] <ubuntu> Quem gostaria de teclar ?
[04:06] <Kr4t05> fiyawerx, just install firefox. ;P
[04:06] <bulltitan> maybe i need to use su -  but using that with the same password for sudo tells me wrong password
[04:06] <hareem> is there any good compiler for kubuntu
[04:06] <fiyawerx> Kr4t05: trying to use konq if i can
[04:06] <bulltitan> i dont get,... am i missing something?
[04:07] <Kr4t05> fiyawerx, it's not worth it.
[04:07] <fiyawerx> Kr4t05: why?
[04:07] <Kr4t05> fiyawerx, because Konq is a jack-of-all-trades--master-of-none app.
[04:07] <fiyawerx> ah
[04:08] <fiyawerx> ok so i need firefox and then the mozplugin for firefox?
[04:08] <Kr4t05> fir
[04:08] <bulltitan> does the su command uses other password or what?
[04:08] <eXCeSS> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=209816
[04:08] <Kr4t05> fiyawerx, might not need the mozplugin, I can't be sure, because I used Automatix.
[04:08] <SpAwN> bulltitan: ive been using kubuntu for less then a week...but from ive read
[04:08] <RawSewage> wrong
[04:08] <RawSewage> Konqueror is an excellent browser
[04:09] <SpAwN> it auto gens a random password for root
[04:09] <Kr4t05> RawSewage, I didn't say it wasn't.
[04:09] <SpAwN> u DONT use root in kubuntu
[04:09] <bulltitan> a password a don't know :(
[04:09] <uuuubsd> konqueror is not that good
[04:09] <fiyawerx> RawSewage: any luck getting flash in konq? mine doesn't seem to work
[04:09] <bulltitan> how can i get it?
[04:09] <Kr4t05> RawSewage, I just said that Firefox is better.
[04:09] <RawSewage> I dont know
[04:10] <RawSewage> only if you install plugins
[04:10] <RawSewage> for example, in Konqueror, I can make any kind of shortcuts I want
[04:10] <SpAwN> bulltitan: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=553.0 if u realy want to
[04:10] <RawSewage> I can type  ts  blah.zip  in the address bar, and it searches TorrentSpy for blah.zip
[04:11] <RawSewage> FF probably has a plugin that lets you do that though
[04:11] <Kr4t05> RawSewage, if Microsoft and Adobe didn't hold all of the cards, (K/X/Ed)Ubuntu would work out of the box.
[04:11] <RawSewage> !flash
[04:11] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:11] <RawSewage> fiyawerx, check out those links
[04:12] <fiyawerx> i did, doesn't seem to be working after following those instrus
[04:12] <RawSewage> whats not working
[04:12] <fiyawerx> like in firefox i just get a black box on google video
[04:12] <Kr4t05> !easyubuntu
[04:12] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:12] <fiyawerx> in konq even after rescanning plugins i don't get anything for google video, im pretty positive thats flash
[04:12] <usp8riot> ok, i'm downloading smoothwall and it offers just iso's. why iso's?
[04:13] <RawSewage> I also made it so I type   u whatever   in the addres bar, and it searches Ubuntu Forums for whatever
[04:13] <Kr4t05> RawSewage, Wonderfull.
[04:13] <RawSewage> fiyawerx, maybe check out this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537&highlight=firefox+flash
[04:14] <fiyawerx> RawSewage: think thats for amd64
[04:14] <RawSewage> oh, sorry
[04:15] <SpAwN> do i need to have  nvidia-kernel-common installed?
[04:15] <RawSewage> I dont know then
[04:15] <SpAwN> or cna i remove it....
[04:16] <billykan> ...
[04:16] <SpAwN> brb
[04:16] <billykan> ...
[04:18] <sysrpl> hi, i'm back now under the live dvd
[04:18] <ganges> hello
[04:19] <sysrpl> i just noticed when changing my laptop's boot order that it suppoerts bottable removable storage like usb thumb drives
[04:19] <ganges> i have a really shitty machine that runs windows me right now and it doesn't boot from the cd at boot and i want to repartition it so that i have enuogh swap space for kubuntu to boot and/or have enough swap space for kubuntu to boot and install kubuntu, what would be the best way to do this?
[04:19] <ganges> i downloaded smart boot manager and ran the floppy with a sysresccd livecd but i get a 0xAA error
[04:20] <sysrpl> is it worth it to make a unbuntu/kubuntu usb thumb drive?
[04:20] <hareem> any one know how to install chillispot on kubuntu
[04:22] <hareem> can any one please tell me how to install chiilispot onto kubuntu
[04:22] <Kr4t05> hareem, search the repos?
[04:22] <h3sp4wn> hareem: What type of wireless card do you have ?
[04:22] <fiyawerx> ok, installed flash from macromedia, now i have sound and no video, argh hehe
[04:22] <oomph_7> try apt-cache search chilispot
[04:22] <hareem> i dont have a wif card on my linux machine
[04:23] <h3sp4wn> Is chillispot not a wireless hotspot thing ?
[04:23] <fiyawerx> correction, in konq, i have audo and no video, in firefox, i have video and no audio, hmm, maybe i can run both at the same time
[04:23] <sysrpl> i'm on a live dvd right now .. would i have to restart to change the video driver?
[04:24] <ganges> anyone know how best to fix my problem?
[04:24] <VHockey87> sysrpl: you should be able to just restart X
[04:24] <sysrpl> how do you do that from a live dvd?
[04:24] <VHockey87> sysrpl: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace I think will do it
[04:25] <ganges> i am not sure if i mentioned it but i have a kubuntu live cd ordered from shipit and it works fine with the smart boot manager
[04:25] <VHockey87> or you could alt+ctrl+F2 and login from console, kill X, and then run startx
[04:25] <ganges> but with the sysresccd that i burned myself, smart boot manager does not work
[04:25] <ganges> er.. it works, but gives me a 0xAA error
[04:26] <h3sp4wn> hareem: How can you run a Wireless LAN HotSpot controller without a wireless lan card ?
[04:27] <Wayne_c> Can I ask questions about Samba in here?
[04:28] <[GuS] > shoot Wayne_c
[04:28] <SpAwN> bah!!!!!!!!! i wish this driver would jus work
[04:28] <VHockey87> Wayne_c: can't hurt
[04:28] <SpAwN> *just
[04:28] <OOD> SpAwN: how does it not work? you have opengl?
[04:28] <ganges> hello?
[04:28] <Wayne_c> thanks, basically i just want to know if its possible to set samba up so that some users can access some directories and others cant?
[04:28] <ganges> can anyone hear me or are tor users banned from speaking?
[04:29] <hareem> cause
[04:29] <hareem> the
[04:29] <hareem> ap takes dhcp from chillispot pc
[04:29] <SpAwN> OOD: no....the driver is NOT working right
[04:29] <OOD> SpAwNL i asked -how-
[04:30] <SpAwN> it makes a: my games not work b: has crashed my puter 2 times
[04:30] <SpAwN> it crashe dmy computer after installing it and restrting x...it locked up at the kubuntu screen.....my whole keyboad became non responsive
[04:31] <OOD> can you run glxgears?
[04:31] <SpAwN> ctrl alt f1 did nothing....
[04:31] <SpAwN> i can now...yes i had resolved that...but the games still arnt working...i just want to install the OFFICAL drivers
[04:32] <OOD> SpAwN: these are THE OFFICIAL drivers
[04:32] <SpAwN> i know that there the same and alll...but all i know is that the ones in the repos arnt doing what the offical one did for me on mandriva
[04:32] <OOD> if you want i can explain how they are
[04:32] <Zaire> SpAwN: do you have more then one ram chip running on diff frequency?
[04:32] <SpAwN> Zaire: no same exact ram sticks
[04:32] <VHockey87> Wayne_c: install samba with apt-get (or the adept package manager). Then you can goto K-menu --> System Settings. There's an option called "sharing". From here you can configure shared directories.
[04:32] <Zaire> odd dunno then
[04:33] <fiyawerx> ok, i have flash working in firefox now, woohoo, needed alsa-oss installed, but i still dont get any video in video.google in konqueror
[04:33] <fiyawerx> i get sound fine, which seems to be everyones problem, im backwards
[04:33] <OMGLAZERS> Hey can anyone tell me how I might be able to resize a partition with a kubuntu utility?
[04:33] <SpAwN> OOD: k can we drop the hows its offical.......i know it is...can u help me get the offical ones installec?
[04:33] <hareem> any one know how to install chillispot on kubuntu
[04:33] <ganges> can someone please help me?
[04:33] <OOD> SpAwn: ...
[04:33] <fiyawerx> OMGLAZERS: i believe qtparted can do it
[04:33] <SpAwN> *installed
[04:33] <OMGLAZERS> fiyawerx: Thanks
[04:34] <fiyawerx> OMGLAZERS: thats what the live cd uses, altho it isn't installed by default when you install for some reason
[04:34] <VHockey87> Wayne_c: If you want to define samba users (something the user connecting to the server will have to type in), use the "smbpasswd" function from the command line. 'smbpasswd myUserName' will create a username and prompt you for the password
[04:34] <OMGLAZERS> fiyawerx: Yea I saw it I just couldnt remember the name :P
[04:34] <fiyawerx> OMGLAZERS: PEWPEWPEW
[04:34] <OOD> SpAwN: here's a script of a secodn way of installing the nvidia driver, it automates you downloading the driver from the nvidia site and compiling it as a module
[04:34] <Wayne_c> VHockey87: Thank you I'll try that
[04:34] <OOD> http://www.albertomilone.eu/europeo/nvidia_scripts1.html
[04:35] <SpAwN> OOD: thank you...i will try that..... =D
[04:35] <OOD> if this works then great, i ended up screwing my nvidia driver a few times with it
[04:35] <kankoka> re
[04:35] <SpAwN> i just dont understand why i cant just installl the official driver
[04:36] <hareem> does any one know how to install chillispot
[04:36] <OOD> i cant undestand why You cant undestand that theyre both the same and just as official XD
[04:36] <uuuubsd> i just can't understand why can't you use windows
[04:36] <OMGLAZERS> fiyawerx: how do I install qtparted? I cant seem to find it. Also, OMG LAZERS!?
[04:37] <SpAwN> OOD: i do but huonestly the run NOTHING like they did on mandriva
[04:37] <Cntryboy> to install flash in konqueror would it be close to http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[04:37] <Cntryboy> instructions there on that link
[04:37] <OOD> that has nothing to do with where you get the driver.. it's a different distro
[04:37] <clbeams> ! wireless
[04:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:37] <OMGLAZERS> nevermind
[04:37] <OMGLAZERS> I found it
[04:37] <SpAwN> the colors,performance, and mostly that they made my games WORK
[04:38] <OOD> SpAwN: mandriva is a very different distro
[04:38] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[04:38] <SpAwN> OOD: i am aware
[04:38] <actinic> hareem - http://www.chillispot.org/FAQ.html#mozTocId650379
[04:38] <actinic> it might work
[04:38] <OOD> then the problem you're having is probably kubuntu specific, not where you get the driver from
[04:38] <Cntryboy> anyone know a site to install flash for konquer.
[04:38] <Cntryboy> please help
[04:38] <Cntryboy> need it fast
[04:38] <Snake> !flash
[04:38] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:39] <Snake> Cntryboy: ^^
[04:39] <SpAwN> OOD: i looked into that also....i have popular hardware....and havent seen any issues with kubuntu and the games that dont work
[04:39] <actinic> that should be fast enough :)
[04:39] <kankoka> c00l!
[04:39] <kankoka> x'D
[04:39] <Cntryboy> snake, which link should I choose?
[04:39] <fiyawerx> hm, can't find anything about having sound but no video in konqueror / flash
[04:39] <Cntryboy> im on 2.1KB dialup
[04:39] <oomph> how can i associate a desktop item with an icon?
[04:39] <SpAwN> ive checked forums and googled...and didnt see any articles that would indicate further that its the os's fault
[04:40] <Cntryboy> snake?
[04:41] <Snake> Cntryboy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:41] <Ash-Fox> !bluetooth
[04:41] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[04:41] <Cntryboy> ok
[04:42] <OOD> SpAwN: what indicates that it's where you get the driver form that's at fault?
[04:43] <actinic> oomph: right click on item > properties > general tab > click on the icon that looks like a wrench ...
[04:43] <SpAwN> the ppl in #cedega and the fact that it crashed my system 2 times
[04:43] <Cntryboy> eh that page is complicated and doesn't look familar to me as what ive done b4 snake
[04:43] <Cntryboy> im going to install flash like ti says then try to tell konq how to find it brb
[04:43] <SpAwN> the ppl in #cedega said its most likely a driver issue
[04:43] <Cntryboy> install it like adobe site says then try to tell konq to find it rather
[04:43] <actinic> oomph: then click on the next icon
[04:43] <Snake> Cntryboy: it says right there.
[04:44] <Snake> Cntryboy: for a direct link, see here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b
[04:44] <Cntryboy> snake: yah but that isn't what I had to do on ubuntu
[04:44] <Snake> Cntryboy: Its the same on ubuntu and it is on kubuntu
[04:44] <Snake> as it is*
[04:44] <Cntryboy> i untared it, then went to the dir and typed ./flashplayer-installer
[04:44] <Cntryboy> then told firefox to find it can't I do that with konq?
[04:45] <Snake> Cntryboy: you intalled it off the website, go ahead and do it that way if you want to, but thats the harder way. Also, notice below it says: Note to Kubuntu Users: Konqueror does not auto-detect Flash. There are a few steps you must take:
[04:45] <OOD> SpAwN: so you gonna gieve that script a try?
[04:46] <Cntryboy> snake: can I go ahead and install it like the website says, then do the steps extra for konq
[04:46] <Cntryboy> ive already installed it
[04:46] <Cntryboy> thats why i asked
[04:46] <Snake> Cntryboy: Probly
[04:46] <jerry> hi
[04:46] <jerry> I have a question
[04:46] <Snake> !ask
[04:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:46] <Snake> :)
[04:46] <jerry> Where can I buy games for linux like Diablo2
[04:47] <jerry> Actually I want to buy Diablo2 for ubuntu
[04:47] <uuuubsd> from blizzard
[04:47] <OOD> you can't, but you can run windows version in wine
[04:47] <Snake> jerry: Theres very very few linux games, and diablo 2 was never built for linu
[04:47] <Snake> x
[04:47] <jerry> Is there a version for ubuntu?
[04:47] <jerry> oh ok
[04:47] <Snake> Not of diablo 2
[04:47] <jerry> um
[04:47] <jerry> darn
[04:47] <OOD> no, but you can run the windows version in wine perfectly
[04:47] <empiric> hai i need to install raid controller on kubuntu
[04:47] <Snake> jerry: but you can try to run it in wine
[04:47] <OOD> !Wine
[04:47] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:47] <Snake> jerry: see above ^
[04:47] <jerry> wine crashed
[04:47] <uuuubsd> nope, but there is mephisto 3 for fedora
[04:48] <jerry> is there any good games like diablo2 for linux?
[04:48] <empiric> i have raid controller driver on floopy i want to add this driver during install so thatkubuntu picks my raid conroller
[04:48] <uuuubsd> do you play mephisto?
[04:48] <OOD> i just played diablo 2 in wine today
[04:48] <OOD> it works perfectlt
[04:48] <VHockey87> if you're serious about getting windows games to run in linux, look into transgaming
[04:48] <Snake> UT04, Uplink, Doom3, Quake4 off the top of my head
[04:48] <jerry> how about farcry?
[04:48] <empiric> but i am unbale to access floppy durng kubuntu install start
[04:48] <uuuubsd> i played age of empire 2 in linux today
[04:48] <Snake> jerry: theres really not many games for linux unfortantly :(
[04:48] <Snake> jerry: some games play with cedega
[04:48] <Snake> !cedega
[04:48] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[04:49] <jerry> ok
[04:49] <fiyawerx_> can anyone with flash working try video.google.com in konqueror and see if they can see/hear a video?
[04:49] <jerry> um
[04:49] <Snake> fiyawerx_: never worked for me
[04:49] <fiyawerx_> Snake: i have audio, just no video
[04:49] <actinic> jerry: native ported games ... http://www.liflg.org/?catid=6
[04:49] <jerry> I can't hear anything
[04:49] <actinic> some are free
[04:49] <Snake> fiyawerx_: arnt u lucky :P never worked at all for me :)
[04:49] <VHockey87> flash sounded worked for me in gentoo, haven't tried it in kubuntu yet
[04:50] <Snake> gentooooooooooo
[04:50] <fiyawerx_> Snake: i did the install from macromedia, and had to install alsa-oss, but after that firefox works 100% with it
[04:50] <fiyawerx_> gonna reboot, maybe that'll help
[04:50] <OOD> yea firefox works perfectly with flash
[04:50] <jerry> do I need to install windows xp on top of wine for it to work?
[04:50] <OOD> that is if you call flash7 perfect :(
[04:50] <Snake> jerry: no
[04:50] <VHockey87> jerry: no - I don't think that's even possible
[04:50] <OOD> it's not
[04:51] <OOD> wine is a linux program that lets you run windows programs
[04:51] <jerry> how does it play windows games?
[04:51] <Snake> Emulation
[04:51] <OOD> it's not emulation
[04:51] <Snake> Its not?
[04:51] <OOD> no
[04:51] <SpAwN> OOD: yea i think so....but it says somthing about wireless...and i use wireless so
[04:51] <actinic> it's magic
[04:51] <Snake> actinic: +1
[04:51] <uuuubsd> it's a hack
[04:51] <OOD> it allows native execution of the code, that's not emulation
[04:51] <actinic> ka ching
[04:52] <fiyawerx> ok, i take that back
[04:52] <Snake> No luck?
[04:52] <fiyawerx> it was loading, i just had to resize my konq window for some reason to see the video
[04:52] <Snake> Heh weird
[04:52] <fiyawerx> like i could see where it should be, it just didnt _show_ until i resized at all
[04:52] <uuuubsd> wine is to satisfy the need of using windows of linux users who can't face the fact that they have to use windows
[04:52] <fiyawerx> so all i had to do then was install it from macromedia.com and apt-get install alsa-oss
[04:52] <Snake> lol
[04:52] <OOD> http://www.winehq.org/ <-- info on what wine is
[04:53] <actinic> isn't wine an acronym for wine isn't a windows emulator?
[04:53] <OOD> yea
[04:53] <Snake> Yea
[04:53] <Snake> Hehe
[04:53] <Snake[away] > Food time!
[04:53] <actinic> food fight!
[04:54] <fiyawerx> "Wine Is Not an Emulator"
[04:54] <OOD> yea, that's it
[04:55] <fiyawerx> !java
[04:55] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:55] <uuuubsd> wine is a hack
[04:57] <Gonzo> any reason why xmms could play wma fine in ubuntu but now freeze in kubuntu?
[04:57] <matt___> who here is using ubuntu dapper 6.06 and was able to install win32 codecs for their media players, if you managed to install those, how would I go about doing it?
[04:58] <Gonzo> i installed a win32 codec pack with wine... no idea if it affected my media player
[04:58] <Gonzo> maybe that why xmmms is freezing
[04:58] <uuuubsd> newbie, that depends what software is using win32 codec, wine doesn't because wine is not media player
[04:58] <matt___> hmmm interesting
[04:58] <OOD> matt_: download the win32 codecs from here: http://www2.mplayerhq.hu/design7/codecs.html
[04:59] <Gonzo> no i mean... i installed the codec pack with wine
[04:59] <Gonzo> i needed it for some other win32 application
[04:59] <matt___> OOD: ok, and that will make them available to VLC player, Kaffeine, etc?
[04:59] <actinic> matt__: i used automatix.
[05:00] <matt___> automatix?
[05:00] <OOD> yes
[05:00] <matt___> OOD: thankyou
[05:00] <Snake[away] > ack automatix
[05:00] <Snake[away] > >.<
[05:00] <actinic> automatix: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203294&highlight=kubuntu
[05:00] <Snake[away] > Why is everyone so bent on that program from hell
[05:01] <actinic> however some people like to do it the hard way
[05:01] <Snake[away] > !easyubuntu
[05:01] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:01] <Snake[away] > FTW.
[05:01] <Gonzo> brb ?
[05:01] <OOD> hard way? you just download the codecs and copy them, hardly hard XD
[05:01] <Snake[away] > OOD: z0mg 2 lines of code!!! difficult!!
[05:01] <matt___> I have another total newb question, what exactly is an "installation candidate" as used with apt-get?
[05:02] <actinic> tell that to matt
[05:02] <OOD> i can, sure
[05:04] <actinic> matt_: sounds like a program not ready for prime time.
[05:05] <SpAwN> well i may have found a fix
[05:05] <SpAwN> brb
[05:06] <matt___> here is an error output for what I mean reguarding installation candidates:
[05:06] <matt___> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[05:06] <matt___> Reading package lists... Done
[05:06] <matt___> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:06] <matt___> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:06] <matt___> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:06] <matt___> is only available from another source
[05:06] <matt___> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[05:06] <matt___> so, my question would be what is an installation candidate?
[05:07] <Hobbsee> matt___: please dont paste in here.
[05:07] <OOD> !pastebin
[05:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:07] <matt___> sorry
[05:07] <Hobbsee> !w32codecs
[05:07] <ubotu> w32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[05:07] <matt___> well, sorry about the pasting, but what exactly are installation candidates?
[05:08] <Dawei> are there any movie editors (join, split, extract, etc.) for wmv, mpeg, etc for (k)ubuntu?
[05:09] <OOD> diva is in the works and look promising: http://diva-project.org/wiki
[05:10] <Zaire> once glx is setup then nvidia drivers enabled I should be able to run Unreal tourny 2004 right?
[05:10] <OOD> yes
[05:10] <Zaire> cool
[05:10] <OOD> matt_: that's not an actual package that's why you get that error
[05:11] <Zaire> oh yea doesn't BF2 have a linux installer?
[05:11] <actinic> i'm running UT2K4 .... smoooooooooth as silk
[05:11] <OOD> no i don't think so
[05:11] <Zaire> I kick in UT at lans lol
[05:11] <OOD> cedega runs it though
[05:11] <matt___> ah, thankyou, I had previously been using another distro, and it never used the phrase "installation candidate" in its error output
[05:11] <matt___> thankyou
[05:11] <meltdown> Does anyone have any suggestions to setting up Sound? I have a VIA sound card, and they provide their own Linux drivers, which I've installed, but they don't do anything. I just have no sound at all (no error messages either, so I don't know where to start)
[05:11] <Zaire> hmmm gonna have to get cedega then
[05:11] <actinic> i ... uh ... suck at ut :)
[05:12] <Zaire> the games I play at lans are BF2 UT2k4 and halflife counterstike 1.6
[05:12] <OOD> matt_: i think it says that because it's a packag pointer, and the actual paclages it points to don't exist or something like that
[05:12] <actinic> meltdown, let's start with your motherboard
[05:13] <Zaire> man maps at lans are so crowded I was getting 8 kils in like 2 - 3 shots lol
[05:13] <meltdown> actinic: VIA VN800
[05:13] <actinic> Zaire ... have you downloaded the community bonus packs for UT2K4?
[05:13] <meltdown> http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/Q106/MagicLC/1008831sp2.shtml - It's a brand new machine
[05:13] <Zaire> nopes not yet
[05:13] <actinic> meltdown ... onboard lan?
[05:13] <meltdown> yes
[05:13] <meltdown> Networking all works fine
[05:14] <meltdown> both wired and wireless
[05:14] <actinic> meltdown, have u confirmed sound works in >cough> windows
[05:14] <meltdown> yes
[05:14] <meltdown> but we don't mention that here
[05:14] <actinic> have u run the liveCD to try to get sound
[05:14] <actinic> lol
[05:14] <meltdown> Doesn't work on Kubuntu Live either (Havn't tried Knoppix)
[05:15] <actinic> have u fooled with kmix?
[05:15] <OOD> meltdown: does linux actually detect a sound card?
[05:15] <OOD> yea try fooling with kmix, and alsamixergui (you can install that package_
[05:15] <actinic> Zaire, get those comm bonus packs ... you'll love the maps!
[05:16] <meltdown> yes - I can see all the sound card info in lspci
[05:16] <SpAwN> word i got the OFFICIAL driver installed
[05:16] <actinic> start pressing kmix buttons
[05:16] <Zaire> cool will look into it lol
[05:16] <meltdown> actinic: done that :/
[05:16] <OOD> SpAwN: too bad you still don't understand they're both as official <_<
[05:16] <DaSkreech> Can I use dpkg and check if installing a .deb would break the system?
[05:16] <actinic> Zaire ... go to loki installers for those maps
[05:16] <actinic> or google
[05:17] <SpAwN> lol OOD IDO UNDERSTAND
[05:17] <actinic> meltdown:  do u see volume icon in the tray?
[05:17] <Zaire> one thing IVe never been able to get UT to connect to servers in linux
[05:17] <SpAwN> but the ones from the repo made my systme freeze up and broke my games...so.....
[05:17] <meltdown> Ok, installing Alsamixergui
[05:17] <SpAwN> there are just MY experiences..............so
[05:18] <OOD> so you got it all worked out?
[05:18] <meltdown> I didn't, no
[05:18] <meltdown> still no sound
[05:18] <SpAwN> iam about to go and see OOD
[05:18] <OOD> sorry was talking to spawn
[05:18] <actinic> Zaire, that's odd.  Shouldn't make any diff
[05:18] <SpAwN> will let u know how it works out
[05:18] <Zaire> yea dunno why but it just sat there saying sonnecting
[05:18] <actinic> meltdown: here's a reference source ... http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Hardware/Basic_sound_card_hardware_debuging
[05:18] <Zaire> connecting*
[05:19] <meltdown> actinic: Thanks, I'll take a look through there
[05:20] <Zaire> ok UT runs but I get no sound
[05:21] <Zaire> and it said it couldn't connect to the UT network
[05:21] <OOD> you patch the game up?
[05:21] <Zaire> nopes but still no sound wth
[05:21] <sotired> hello all
[05:21] <OOD> hey
[05:21] <Frederick> folks is there any command to clean useless packages?
[05:22] <h3sp4wn_> deborphan
[05:22] <sotired> well..it's been one week and a half no windows kubuntu cold turkey
[05:22] <sysrpl> what files does the "Display -System Settings" change so i cna back them up?
[05:22] <sotired> and im not looking back.
[05:22] <sotired> :)
[05:22] <OOD> neither am i :D
[05:22] <sysrpl> "Display - System Settings" applet i meant
[05:22] <Frederick> h3sp4wn_, how do I use it?
[05:22] <sotired> ive played around with linux everyonce in a while...but this time im switched for good
[05:23] <sysrpl> i am assuming /etc/X11/xorg.conf but want to be sure
[05:23] <OOD> sysrpl: yes it's the xorg.conf
[05:23] <sysrpl> incase the applet changes i make screw X up
[05:23] <sysrpl> that's the only file it will change?
[05:23] <OOD> yea
[05:23] <sysrpl> ty
[05:24] <matt___> lets say I have gnome and kde installed on my ubuntu box, how do I switch between them?
[05:24] <h3sp4wn_> Frederick: just run it and it will give you a list of things it thinks is un needed
[05:25] <OOD> Zaire: http://www.gamershell.com/download_11755.shtml
[05:25] <sysrpl> my video hadware is the IGP Intel 915GM,GMS,910 GMLwith a resolution of 1280X800 ... at least under windows
[05:26] <sysrpl> but kubuntu/kde wont let me change to my lcd's native resolution ... what settings should i change?
[05:26] <sysrpl> the driver or the monitor (from pug and play to i don't know what) or both?
[05:27] <OOD> Zaire: you just extract it and copy it to the ut folder
[05:31] <Zaire> so what would cause the audio to not work anywa?
[05:31] <Zaire> it using open asl
[05:31] <Dawei> meltdown I had a problem when I updated.... absolutely no sound. Finally, after all the wise advice and fooling around for 2 hours I thought "Maybe the sound volume got turned off?" And I was right. I went into the mixer area and I saw that PC Speaker in Output was not selected. For some reason... but I don't need to go into that, do I?
[05:32] <OOD> Zaire: don't know
[05:32] <Zaire> I have to have sound or I can't play it
[05:32] <OOD> did you patch it?
[05:32] <[GuS] > hi guys... i've build tcl8.5/tk8.5  (and dev) packages for Kubuntu dapper... if someone needs.
[05:32] <Zaire> not yet but why would it need that for the sound
[05:33] <[GuS] > in this days i will upload to REVU.
[05:33] <OOD> could be a bug
[05:33] <Zaire> patch is 72% done downloading
[05:33] <sysrpl> what dir is sources.list in?
[05:33] <osiris>  /etc/apt
[05:34] <osiris> sysrpl, ^
[05:34] <sysrpl> ty
[05:34] <osiris> yep
[05:34] <Zaire> damn I need faster internet lol
[05:35] <OOD> :P
[05:35] <osiris> ouch
[05:35] <osiris> you mean not everyone here is sitting on an OC3 ?
[05:35] <Zaire> yea I have a friend running 5 meg down and 1 meg up which is my next step lol
[05:36] <sysrpl> what is the best sources.list to use?
[05:36] <Hobbsee> !repos
[05:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:37] <Zaire> yay patch is done
[05:37] <SpAwN> OOD: the OFFCIAL driver fixed : the color problem and 2 games.....on game still isnt working...but hey....i fixed 3 things...not to bad
[05:38] <OOD> SpAwN: still with that official thing? :P
[05:38] <sysrpl> i just installed 915resolution in an attempt to get my native lcd resolution working
[05:38] <sysrpl> has anyone used that package?
[05:39] <SpAwN> OOD: yes =D ...it fixed a couple things for me soit was worht the time/trouble in my book...now i just gotta fix this lastgame
[05:39] <Zaire> crap I copied and pasted the file folders from the UT update into the UT folder and now it won't even run
[05:39] <DaSkreech> !easysource
[05:39] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:43] <SpAwN> OOD: and it boosted my fps with glxgears from 13000 to over 14100
[05:45] <actinic> what vid card?
[05:45] <actinic> i'm pulling 8300 on a 6600GT
[05:45] <SpAwN> geforce 7800 GT OC made by bftech
[05:45] <actinic> that makes sense
[05:45] <SpAwN> *bfg
[05:45] <SpAwN> http://www.bfgtech.com/7800GT_256_PCIX.html
[05:46] <SpAwN> i LOVE the thing
[05:46] <actinic> i'm pulling almost 12 on an overclocked 7600GT
[05:46] <SpAwN> niece
[05:46] <actinic> sli?
[05:46] <SpAwN> what kinda sys specs u have
[05:46] <chavo> just minimize the glxgears window, you'll get over 100000 fps
[05:46] <meltdown> I'm back
[05:46] <SpAwN> i wish i had two of them...so icould use the sli
[05:46] <meltdown> ...no success :/
[05:47] <actinic> opteron 146 @ 2.8 ghz, 2 gigs corsair xms3200, Abit KN8-Ultra non-SLI
[05:47] <SpAwN> p4 3.6 ghz 2 gigs ram 250 hdd...120 external
[05:47] <SpAwN> whats the most ram youve been able to use?
[05:48] <matt___> the way the root account is set up seems to be different in ubuntu than most other distros, is that an accurate statement?
[05:48] <SpAwN> ...i dont think ive used more the 1 gig of ram...lol
[05:48] <actinic> haven't tried over 2 gigs
[05:48] <SpAwN> matt___: ver y much yes
[05:48] <actinic> :)
[05:48] <actinic> terminal doesn't take up much ram, lol
[05:48] <SpAwN> u only use cli?
[05:48] <actinic> nah, j/k
[05:48] <SpAwN> lol
[05:48] <SpAwN> was gonna say...
[05:48] <matt___> how would one go about setting up an ubuntu in the traditional root account setup?
[05:49] <SpAwN> matt___: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=553.0
[05:49] <unix_infidel> !root
[05:49] <OOD> linux is great on the ram, i only got 512, windows was so sluggish after a game, linux works and works flawlessly :D
[05:49] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:49] <SpAwN> OOD: yea but ive heard that...linux will use as much ram as possible...
[05:49] <SpAwN> so if u have that little it wont use it as much...
[05:49] <OOD> SpAwN: that's to avoid hard drive swapping
[05:50] <actinic> the ram came in handy with earlier Firefox memory leaks
[05:50] <actinic> now I run Opera 9
[05:50] <meltdown> I'm still having troubles with my sound
[05:50] <SpAwN> meltdown: no soundat all?
[05:50] <unix_infidel> this guy again.....
[05:50] <meltdown> Nope, none
[05:50] <actinic> meltdown, sorry to hear that man
[05:50] <OOD> it's much lighter  on the ram then windows, windows swaps with the hard drive like crazy
[05:51] <meltdown> I just booted the unmentionables... and there was sound fine there, and everything -appears- in order here (no errors in syslog or dmesg)... but there's just no soundwaves emitting from my speakers...
[05:51] <SpAwN> meltdown: please tell u have a ac'97 card...i can help ya then
[05:51] <meltdown> SpAwN: Yes, I do
[05:51] <SpAwN> great
[05:51] <SpAwN> one sec
[05:51] <actinic> here's more references: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=sound&titlesearch=Titles
[05:51] <matt___> so basically, in ubuntu, the user account created during the installation of ubuntu has administrative privledges?
[05:51] <SpAwN> matt___: yes
[05:52] <actinic> that's correct
[05:52] <SpAwN> u use "sudo command"
[05:52] <OOD> that's only if you provide your passord for action that does need root acces
[05:52] <unix_infidel> sort of.
[05:53] <SpAwN> meltdown: one sec...the computer with the directions im gonna give u is booting now...
[05:53] <matt___> I do notice that there is a root folder in ubuntu, so does this mean that there is an actual root account on the machine aside from the main account create during the install?
[05:53] <OOD> yes
[05:53] <meltdown> ok, thanks
[05:53] <unix_infidel> matt___: the FIRST NORMAL user you create is part of a group.
[05:53] <SpAwN> matt___: yes i do belive the acutal root account a a random gen pass
[05:53] <SpAwN> *has
[05:54] <unix_infidel> that user has priviledges through sudo.  which is then given root via sudoers.
[05:54] <unix_infidel> so no, the normal user doesnt not have admin...that would be stupid.
[05:54] <meltdown> This is like... really freaky weird - aplay is reporting no errors in playing, yet I hear noting (and don't worry, It's not muted)
[05:54] <meltdown> nothing*
[05:55] <matt___> so, if I wanted to log into the actual root account which I know I wouldn't need to do, I would have to guess its randomly generated password?
[05:55] <OOD> matt_: you can change it, but you won't need it
[05:55] <Zaire> actinic: do you actually have sound on your UT cause I can't seem to get mine to work
[05:56] <OOD> you can do everything with sudo
[05:56] <matt___> I know, I am just trying to understand how this distro works
[05:56] <cycom> matt___: couldn't you just sudo -s? and I thought that root wasn't just randomly passworded, it was disabled entirely
[05:56] <SpAwN> k meltdown do this
[05:56] <Hobbsee> !root
[05:56] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:56] <SpAwN> meltdown: alsamixer to turn everything on exceptexcept External Amplifier
[05:57] <SpAwN> hit m to turn it from off to on and vise versa
[05:57] <SpAwN> ....turn everything up all the way for now
[05:57] <meltdown> *blink*
[05:57] <SpAwN> meltdown: do u understand that?
[05:57] <meltdown> Well I got a hell of a lot of static when trying to aplay an .mp3
[05:57] <meltdown> scared the living hell out of me
[05:57] <SpAwN> so u have sound
[05:57] <meltdown> kinda
[05:58] <SpAwN> well....
[05:58] <meltdown> It was noise, yes
[05:58] <sysrpl> hello
[05:58] <OOD> static form the speakers isn't really sound .. lol
[05:58] <SpAwN> hmm maby its a diff prob then what i had
[05:58] <meltdown> +1
[05:58] <SpAwN> i had NO sound
[05:58] <SpAwN> but anyways here
[05:58] <SpAwN> do this next
[05:58] <SpAwN> amixer set 'Exchange Front/Surround' on && amixer set 'Spread Front to Surround and Center/LFE' on
[05:58] <sysrpl> what is the difference between the directories /etc/rc0.d , rc1.d , rc2.d .... ?
[05:58] <meltdown> ok - Volume's down
[05:58] <actinic> Zaire, yes
[05:58] <SpAwN> copy past that whole line and run it
[05:59] <sysrpl> i am trying to create a startup script before X starts
[05:59] <meltdown> Everything is on - I went through and unmuted it all
[05:59] <SpAwN> meltdown: i had no sound and that fixed my problem.....
[05:59] <meltdown> ...you know... it may have
[05:59] <meltdown> I don't think aplay has access to my .mp3 codec...
[06:00] <meltdown> Lemme check in Amarok
[06:00] <meltdown> I will admit, Static is better than nothing
[06:00] <SpAwN> meltdown: type "!restricted" in here
[06:00] <SpAwN> that will get u goin on getting most files to play
[06:00] <meltdown> !restricted
[06:00] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:01] <meltdown> yeah, I got all those already ;)
[06:01] <meltdown> I'm not new at Linux, I was just out of ideas...
[06:01] <SpAwN> oh hmm...well......that was the only one i had =D
[06:01] <actinic> meltdown, do you have xmms?
[06:01] <SpAwN> sorry
[06:01] <oomph_7> anyone use streamtuner with di.fm?
[06:02] <sysrpl> what is the deal with the directories /etc/rc0.d , rc1.d , rc2.d ?
[06:02] <meltdown> No @ xmms
[06:02] <actinic> ok, dl xmms
[06:02] <meltdown> HAH!
[06:02] <meltdown> That worked
[06:02] <SpAwN> meltdown: what worked?
[06:02] <meltdown> the amplification thing
[06:02] <meltdown> *I HEARS TEH MUSIC*
[06:02] <meltdown> Thanks a ton
[06:03] <SpAwN> meltdown: sweet deal huh?
[06:03] <meltdown> oh hells yeah
[06:03] <sysrpl> how do i make a symoblic link into a script link ... in konqueror it's displaying as an unkown file type
[06:03] <OOD> yea you have to unmute some channels ot get some stuff going, i just got surround sound working yesterday after thinking it was impossible with ym card
[06:03] <actinic> <-- actinic runs to copy down spawn's instructions, lol
[06:04] <SpAwN> welp enjoy the sound
[06:04] <meltdown> I feel truely happy inside now
[06:04] <SpAwN> lol actinic i copyied them when crimsun gave them to me a few days ago
[06:04] <meltdown> Ok, I'm gonna go to sleep - It's midnight and I have work tomorrow
[06:04] <meltdown> bye
[06:04] <SpAwN> pz out meltdown
[06:04] <meltdown> and thanks again
[06:04] <SpAwN> np
[06:05] <actinic> :)
[06:05] <actinic> Zaire, UT sound ran right outta the box
[06:05] <matt___> I have one more question about the root account, how common is it to use the default account created during the install for everyday use, and how many of you do that?
[06:05] <OOD> i never use the root account, it's not needed
[06:05] <Zaire> board*
[06:06] <matt___> OOD: what I mean is, the account created with administrative privledges during install, do you do use that one, or when you say you don't use the root account, that is the one you mean
[06:07] <OOD> matt_: i use the default account that is created during the install for everything
[06:07] <SpAwN> matt___: i use the account i made during install.....which is the one given the priviledges
[06:07] <sysrpl> how do i make a symoblic link into a symbolic link to a shell script? ... in my file browser it's displaying as an unkown file type
[06:07] <sysrpl> i used sudo ln -s /etc/855resolution /etc/rc5.d/S45915resolution to create the link
[06:08] <OOD> matt_: just to clarify, the default account does NOT have root privelages, it gains root privelages with the sudo command
[06:08] <actinic> man i love hitting the sack with issues resolved
[06:09] <actinic> conversely, i grumble when i can't get somethin to work
[06:09] <lucas> im trying to install "sun-java5-bin" with Adept but its stuck at 23% what shall i do??
[06:09] <sysrpl> anyone?
[06:09] <SpAwN> lucas: hit the button on the side...
[06:09] <SpAwN> lucas: its probly asking u for input
[06:09] <matt___> OOD: got ya, so in a way it is like any other user account, accept that its password used in sudo will grant root privledges?
[06:10] <lucas> SpAwN: yes
[06:10] <lucas> SpAwN: it asks me to accept the license agreement
[06:10] <OOD> matt_: yes exactly
[06:10] <lucas> SpAwN: how do i accept?
[06:10] <crimsun> Cornellius: you neglected to mention whether the command worked?
[06:10] <SpAwN> lucas: if u cant specify the input....stop the install and use clit to install it
[06:10] <Cornellius> crimsun: Yes, it did
[06:11] <SpAwN> lucas: do this kill that install of it
[06:11] <SpAwN> lucas: then use "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin"
[06:11] <lucas> noo
[06:11] <lucas> i wont kill it
[06:11] <SpAwN> i had the same exact problem
[06:12] <OOD> lucas: you have to there's no way out
[06:12] <crimsun> Cornellius: well, in a nutshell, the crystal driving the codec is skewed, which is a sign of hardware failure. We work around it in alsa by attempting to force the codec to run at a certain rate.
[06:12] <SpAwN> i couldnt hit yes to accept the terms
[06:12] <OOD> lucas: you're gonan have to kill it and redo the installation with apt-get in the terminal
[06:12] <BlueFrog> sup. i have a question about installing stuff in ubuntu using aptitude
[06:12] <lucas> dam
[06:12] <BlueFrog> and i cant find the answer anywhere
[06:12] <OOD> go ahead
[06:12] <BlueFrog> it keeps asking for the original disc
[06:13] <BlueFrog> and the computer no longer has a cd drive
[06:13] <BlueFrog> can i fake the original disc
[06:13] <OOD> the repository must be set to the cd drive for some reason
[06:13] <Cornellius> BlueFrog: That's because one you your repositories is the CD
[06:13] <BlueFrog> i just want to install the basic development pack
[06:13] <BlueFrog> how do i change it?
[06:13] <SpAwN> BlueFrog: u could probly dl a iso of it and then mount it
[06:13] <BlueFrog> how do i virtually mount a cd iso
[06:14] <Cornellius> gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   uncomment the CD
[06:14] <actinic> mount -t iso9660  -o lo <filename> <directory>
[06:14] <BlueFrog> cool. thanks. i will try it out
[06:14] <OOD> BlueFrog: you won't have to mount any iso's to fix this
[06:14] <SpAwN> mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso
[06:14] <BlueFrog> will editing sources.list fix it
[06:14] <OOD> yes
[06:14] <OOD> that's the problem
[06:15] <Cornellius> BlueFrog: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   uncomment the CD
[06:15] <BlueFrog> amazing. very helpful
[06:15] <Cornellius> BlueFrog: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   uncomment the CD
[06:15] <Cornellius> Forgot the sudo, must be root
[06:15] <lucas> SpAwN: it says dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:15] <OOD> you can do it with sudo
[06:15] <BlueFrog> k
[06:15] <SpAwN> lucas: do that
[06:15] <OOD> that command will work perfectly
[06:16] <SpAwN> lucas: ...i asked the same thing like 5 days ago
[06:16] <OOD> lucas: run that command
[06:16] <actinic> amazing, 226 logged in
[06:17] <actinic> is it usually this active?
[06:17] <Cornellius> Yeah, Java is a bitch to install under Kubuntu
[06:17] <usp8riot> mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso - so "/mnt/iso" is the filename the iso's in or where we want it to mount?
[06:17] <Cornellius> I use apt-get ...
[06:17] <Cornellius> *Used
[06:17] <usp8riot> just wondering, i've yet to mount an iso
[06:17] <SpAwN> usp8riot: where u mount it to
[06:17] <satafterh> automatix = eassy java install
[06:18] <usp8riot> ok, thank
[06:18] <lucas> SpAwN: allright its installed
[06:18] <Cornellius> satafterh: Automatix is baf
[06:18] <Cornellius> *bad
[06:18] <SpAwN> like mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/cdrom would work too
[06:18] <Cornellius> It can break your system
[06:18] <SpAwN> lucas: enjoy it then =D
[06:18] <OOD> automatix is still buggy
[06:18] <lucas> :)
[06:18] <actinic> satafterh, i got my head chopped off recommending auto ... auto ... can't say it :)
[06:18] <OOD> it installed everything when i only wanted 1 thing...
[06:18] <Cornellius> Automatix uses ForceYes options that can break your system
[06:19] <satafterh> worked great for me, but if its a nono
[06:19] <Cornellius> Try EasyUbuntu instead
[06:19] <SpAwN> usp8riot: u can also mount the iso anywhere....but the folder u are mounting to has to already be there
[06:19] <actinic> ... but only if you HAVEN't used automatix already, right?
[06:20] <BlueFrog> anybody find a good development IDE for C++ or C for ubuntu?
[06:20] <Cornellius> actinic: Nah, always
[06:20] <Hobbsee> BlueFrog: kdevelop3?
[06:20] <BlueFrog> thats what i thought.
[06:21] <Cornellius> actinic: Auto... have an echo yes, so even if you say no to some options, auto... do them anyway.
[06:21] <BlueFrog> whats the easiest way to install kdevelop so that it installs the KDE base too?
[06:21] <actinic> ok
[06:22] <Cornellius> BlueFrog: sudo apt/get install Kdev... It will get the libraries for you
[06:22] <BlueFrog> k
[06:22] <SpAwN> well i am gonna go play some et pz out
[06:22] <actinic> Zaire, you still tryin to get sound?
[06:22] <OOD> later
[06:23] <OOD> Zaire: damm that sucks
[06:24] <defrysk> hmmm a new amarok
[06:24] <Cornellius> Zaire: Problem is what ?
[06:24] <OOD> what i did is install the windows version of UT2004, all i'm waiting for is a mouse patch
[06:24] <actinic> how is there no author to posts like 'Zaire has bad luck' ??
[06:24] <Cornellius> OOD: Cedega ?
[06:25] <OOD> actinic: use the /me command
[06:25] <OOD> no, wine
[06:25] <actinic> cool
[06:26] <thompa> the spell checking dissapeared from OpenOffice
[06:27] <OOD> Snake, just keep your name and be happy :D
[06:27] <actinic> really, i liked snake pliskin.  I heard you were dead, lol
[06:27] <Snake> OOD: :)
[06:29] <BlueFrog> im missing something. sudo apt/get install Kdev didnt work
[06:30] <OOD> sudo apt-get
[06:30] <OOD> not the slash
[06:30] <BlueFrog> couldnt find the package
[06:31] <OOD> the package was kdevelop3 wans't it?
[06:31] <BlueFrog> didnt work
[06:31] <BlueFrog> nor did kdev or kdevelop
[06:32] <OOD> works fine over here: sudo apt-get install kdevelop3
[06:32] <Ash-Fox> Why don't you search in Adept?
[06:32] <OOD> n
[06:33] <OOD> that n was supposed to go into konsole :P
[06:33] <BlueFrog> portalfire@SleepyTiger:/$ sudo apt-get install kdevelop3
[06:33] <BlueFrog> Reading package lists... Done
[06:33] <BlueFrog> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:33] <BlueFrog> E: Couldn't find package kdevelop3
[06:33] <BlueFrog> portalfire@SleepyTiger:/$
[06:33] <OOD> looks like you'll need the universe repository
[06:33] <OOD> !universe
[06:33] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:34] <thompa> anyone got a clue to whats wrong with OO.org
[06:34] <OOD> whats the problem
[06:34] <thompa> i just typed a larege doc all went well
[06:35] <thompa> now going back to start new documnet the spellchecker has dissapeared
[06:35] <thompa> also lang entries
[06:36] <thompa> one other thing was that the letters would kind of shift a little also
[06:36] <thompa> like a display issue
[06:36] <OOD> the spellchecker doesn't work by default if that's what you mean
[06:36] <thompa> i mean i used it up to now, where is it
[06:37] <thompa> i just reinstalled it and its still missing
[06:37] <james_> does anyone in here know how to configure a wxga laptop screen to switch to 1280x800 resolution? the forums mention using a package called '855resolution' which is not in my repos. i can get '915resolution', though...
[06:37] <OOD> tools->spellchecker or F7
[06:38] <thompa> f7, it says spell check is complete
[06:38] <thompa> yes i have tpyed something,
[06:38] <OOD> there's no dictionary installed
[06:38] <thompa> i can see the language area now also greyed out
[06:39] <thompa> I know there is I just checked
[06:39] <thompa> american lang pack is installed so is aspell
[06:40] <BlueFrog> thank you
[06:42] <Steven_M> have any of you ever run mc in the "konsole" program?
[06:43] <thompa> OOD: it was set for canadian english
[06:43] <thompa> i never changed it, but now it works
[06:45] <thompa> its unstable anyway
[06:45] <thompa> maybe its my nvidia card
[07:03] <krinns> when i mount floppy
[07:03] <krinns> it says mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[07:03] <krinns> what this mean
[07:05] <Steven_M> bye all
[07:16] <lucas> how can i play .wmv files?
[07:17] <Cornellius> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[07:17] <lucas> i have them installed
[07:17] <Hawkwind> Follow the restricted formats page
[07:18] <lucas> the file might be encrypted..
[07:18] <Cornellius> Normal
[07:18] <lucas> i get: cant read media. (Media stream scrambled/encrypted)
[07:22] <RawSewage> anyone know a good Linux eBook reader
[07:23] <bobstro> RawSewage:  what format ebook?
[07:23] <RawSewage> txt from Gutenberg
[07:24] <Cornellius> TXTs ?
[07:24] <RawSewage> yes
[07:24] <Zaire> ok so now I have audio......this is messed lol
[07:24] <RawSewage> but Gutenberg
[07:25] <RawSewage> eBook readers know how to format those
[07:25] <bobstro> RawSewage:  i'd probably use less, but are you after specific features (e.g. bookmarks?)
[07:25] <RawSewage> no
[07:26] <RawSewage> I guess back to Google...
[07:26] <krinns> RawSewage
[07:26] <krinns> i have high pint raid controller and a driver in floppy
[07:26] <RawSewage> hm, maybe PLucker
[07:26] <RawSewage> huh
[07:27] <krinns> how i add that driver during install of kubuntu to get that conroller to work
[07:27] <RawSewage> I dont know
[07:27] <RawSewage> !info high pint raid
[07:27] <ubotu> Package high does not exist in dapper
[07:28] <bobstro> RawSewage:  there is "gutenbrowser"
[07:28] <bobstro> i think that's "high pOint"
[07:29] <bobstro> high pint sounds like hallucinogenic alcoholic beverage.
[07:30] <noaXess_kubuntu> good morning all..
[07:30] <noaXess_kubuntu> i want to make a ntfs hd... is this possible? what package need to install?
[07:31] <noaXess_kubuntu> uuuubsd: europe?
[07:31] <RawSewage> bobstro, that looks more like a Gutenberg book downloader
[07:31] <RawSewage> for browsing Gutenbergs library
[07:32] <lwizardl> hi
[07:32] <bobstro> RawSewage:  the blurb i'm seeing is "gutenbrowser is a reader for etexts produced by Project Gutenberg. It iintegrates with KDE. " I haven't used it myself though.
[07:32] <lwizardl> in 6.06 how do i get my nvidia card working? it was working in 5.10
[07:32] <RawSewage> hm
[07:33] <noaXess_kubuntu> !nvidia
[07:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:33] <noaXess_kubuntu> !tell lwizardl about nvidia
[07:33] <bobstro> RawSewage:  i just installed it. looks like a reader with bookmarks and such.
[07:35] <bobstro> RawSewage:  you can browse the collection from it as well it seems. interesting.
[07:37] <RawSewage> bobstro, ok thx
[07:37] <RawSewage> i'll try it
[07:42] <satafterh> i think force yes means it will install even if there is an issue, it that about right?
[07:43] <RawSewage> bobstro, whoops..  I probably shouldnt have used sudo
[07:44] <Hawkwind> satafterh: Yes, that is correct
[07:44] <RawSewage> was I supposed to do  sudo apt-get install gutenbrowser
[07:44] <bobstro> RawSewage:  let me know if you figure out how to download into local libarary with it. i can browse, but if i hit "load", title disappears but is not in local library.
[07:44] <RawSewage> bobstro, me too
[07:44] <RawSewage> bobstro, I wonder if it's because of sudo
[07:45] <bobstro> RawSewage:  i used synaptic, so not sure.
[07:46] <RawSewage> bobstro, yes, thats it.  change the permissions on the folder and subs
[07:46] <RawSewage> so its readable/writabel by all
[07:47] <bobstro> RawSewage:  which directory? i own ~/.gutenbrowser
[07:47] <RawSewage> yeah
[07:47] <RawSewage> that one
[07:47] <RawSewage> right click it
[07:48] <RawSewage> change the permissions for it and the subfolders
[07:48] <bobstro> ah
[07:48] <RawSewage> Properties - Permissions
[07:48] <RawSewage> and check that box at the bottom for subfolders
[07:50] <bobstro> RawSewage:  hmm. titles still don't show in local library.
[07:50] <Cntryboy> does kubuntu have a video player as default as good as vlc movie player, codec wise?
[07:50] <RawSewage> Kaffeine
[07:50] <unix_infidel> mplayer
[07:50] <bobstro> just get the right codecs!
[07:51] <noaXess_kubuntu> Cntryboy: vlc is also available :)
[07:51] <Cntryboy> does it play dvd,vcd,svcd,divx ect. with out having to dl plugins or codecs ect
[07:51] <Cntryboy> I don't wanna have to dl codecs
[07:51] <unix_infidel> you're going to have to deal with codecs regardless of the player.
[07:51] <unix_infidel> otherwise, its just shipped as a depends :P
[07:51] <noaXess_kubuntu> !tel Cntryboy about !mp3
[07:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about tel Cntryboy about !mp3
[07:52] <noaXess_kubuntu> !tell Cntryboy about !mp3
[07:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about !mp3
[07:52] <noaXess_kubuntu> !tell Cntryboy about mp3
[07:52] <unix_infidel> !tell Cntryboy about mp3
[07:52] <unix_infidel> LOL
[07:52] <Cntryboy> I know vlc is available but it doesn't come with kubuntu
[07:52] <noaXess_kubuntu> unix_infidel: lol :)
[07:52] <Cntryboy> don't flood me dude
[07:52] <bobstro> Cntryboy:  the ability to play/not play is dependent on codecs, regardless of which front end you use.
[07:52] <unix_infidel> take it like a man...
[07:52] <noaXess_kubuntu> Cntryboy: read it and understand
[07:53] <RawSewage> It keeps making my library invisible
[07:53] <Cntryboy> bobstro: not true vlc has a lot of codecs already with it
[07:53] <bobstro> Cntryboy:  so if it's working on kubuntu now with vlc, you should be good to go with any/most of 'em.
[07:53] <unix_infidel> Cntryboy: there's no way to avoid codecs unless you build your own deb that makes codecs part of the depends.
[07:53] <bobstro> Cntryboy:  have you tried the other players?
[07:54] <unix_infidel> heck, i could make my own variation of mplayer that just downloads EVERY SINGLE codec available through official and nonofficial repos and that would fit your bill.
[07:54] <Cntryboy> ya'll im stoned
[07:54] <unix_infidel> because you dont have to mess with codecs directly, it 'ships with' the codecs you need.
[07:54] <Cntryboy> give a oh poor cntryboy a chance to keep up
[07:54] <bobstro> Cntryboy:  well don't be so grouchy, dude.
[07:55] <Cntryboy> but i mean vlc plays quiet a bit, all I wanted to know was their a player with kubuntu already that plays as many codec wise with out having to dl anything
[07:55] <Cntryboy> I'm not grouchy bobstro
[07:55] <noaXess_kubuntu> Cntryboy: you should know about easysource.. ask ubotu
[07:56] <bobstro> Cntryboy:  totem is good. there are several. you do need to get the codecs REGARDLESS OF PLAYER, but if one is working, try the others (e.g. totem).
[07:56] <Cntryboy> totem sucks ass
[07:56] <Cntryboy> lol sorry for the cuss
[07:56] <unix_infidel> then dont be a cuss.
[07:56] <Cntryboy> and vlc I didn't have to download a single codec
[07:56] <crimsun> vlc will be even better in Edgy
[07:56] <Cntryboy> go dl vlc and see if u have to dl codecs for it
[07:57] <bobstro> Cntryboy:  i'm not rating them, i'm telling you there are others and that you should TRY them because if they're working for vlc, they'll work for the others most times.
[07:57] <crimsun> I'll be enabling the w32loader, so it can use w32codecs, too.
[07:57] <noaXess_kubuntu> Cntryboy: apt-get install vlc will do all for you.. but only if you have the right sources..
[07:57] <bobstro> Cntryboy:  are you saying vlc comes with all the proprietary codecs?
[07:57] <crimsun> bobstro: (it doesn't)
[07:57] <noaXess_kubuntu> bobstro: yes..
[07:57] <noaXess_kubuntu> crimsun: most of..
[07:58] <bobstro> Cntryboy:  and i'm kinda curious why the aversion to "downloading" when you're downloading other stuff the same way.
[07:58] <Cntryboy> why doesn't kubuntu come with a lot of games, like regular dapper ubuntu does?
[07:58] <crimsun> noaXess_kubuntu: many. I disabled ones that we can't build with for technical reasons.
[07:58] <Cntryboy> bobstro: I have 2.1KB dial up thats why
[07:58] <bobstro> i was under the impression that the proprietary codecs were a problem in non-commerical (non pay) distros.
[07:59] <noaXess_kubuntu> crimsun: "we can't build.." are you from videolan.org?
[07:59] <justanother> hi guys
[07:59] <justanother> i have a problem with adept
[07:59] <crimsun> noaXess_kubuntu: no. see the changelog for vlc.
[07:59] <justanother> it says database is in use, can't update everytime i start it
[07:59] <noaXess_kubuntu> crimsun: ah you mean they disabled some codec's
[08:00] <justanother> it kinda crashed during an update of java
[08:00] <crimsun> noaXess_kubuntu: no, I mean we (as *buntu devs) had to.
[08:00] <Cntryboy> someone ping me
[08:00] <justanother> a restart didn't helped - what can i do?
[08:00] <noaXess_kubuntu> justanother: have you other apt open? try in terminal: ps ax | grep apt or ps ax | grep adept
[08:00] <noaXess_kubuntu> crimsun: aha.. it's to early in the morning.. sorry.. :)
[08:01] <justanother> no, don't think so... at least i didn't start anything... (the adept notifier is open, though)
[08:01] <Cntryboy> will someone ping me? I think im lagging bad
[08:02] <noaXess_kubuntu> justanother: what's about ps ax...?
[08:02] <Cntryboy> lalala
[08:03] <justanother> noaXess_kubuntu: it doesn't show up in the process table
[08:03] <noaXess_kubuntu> justanother: what error comes up if you start do in terminal sudo apt-get update ?
[08:05] <hey560> there is a bug in kubuntu
[08:05] <hey560> sorry in amarok
[08:05] <justanother> noaXess_kubuntu: it fetches the list and says: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[08:06] <justanother> seems to be a problem concerning java... at least it's doing sth right now ;)
[08:08] <justanother> now it seems to work, thx a lot
[08:10] <justanother> btw, what's the difference between sun-java5-bin and sun-java5-jre?
[08:11] <raphink> s/bin$/jre/ is the difference
[08:11] <raphink> justanother: did you read the apt-cache show entries?
[08:12] <justanother> ah, ok... and why can't i install it with adept - it seems to stop with an licence agreement page or sth...
[08:12] <justanother> raphink: it says unable to locate package entries
[08:12] <raphink> adept doesn't support the license agreement dialog yet I think
[08:12] <raphink> so just install it with sudo apt-get install
[08:13] <raphink> iiirc
[08:13] <Zaire> sweet that was one heluva UT round lol
[08:13] <justanother> raphink: yeah, seems so...
[08:14] <admin_> I have a hsfmodem in a lapie and need to roll a 2.6.16 kernel for dapper, what is the safest Kubuntu-way to create a new kernel ?
[08:14] <justanother> is there a way to close adept now?
[08:14] <raphink> justanother: I don't know where you are exactly
[08:14] <raphink> :s
[08:14] <raphink> admin_: I guess just the way you would build a kernel ;)
[08:14] <Cntryboy> okay back
[08:15] <Cntryboy> why doesn't kaffene have sound? the speaker is muted. I'm trying to play a dvd
[08:15] <admin_> raphink> isn't there some debian packages to assist ?
[08:15] <justanother> raphink: well, at the license agreement (show details) - at 3%...
[08:15] <raphink> admin_: never built a kernel for myself, but maybe
[08:15] <noaXess_kubuntu> justanother: hm.. close the window?
[08:15] <raphink> justanother: is there no cancel button or so?
[08:16] <bimberi_> !kernelcompile
[08:16] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[08:16] <justanother> raphink: no... and if i close it with [x]  it kinda crashes...
[08:16] <admin_> bimberi_> thank you :-)
[08:16] <bimberi_> admin_: np :)
[08:16] <raphink> justanother: well if it crashes, then it's quit ;)
[08:16] <raphink> justanother: so the result is what you want ;)
[08:16] <noaXess_kubuntu> yeha
[08:17] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[08:17] <justanother> raphink: well, not quite what i want because now i can't start it again to do the other updates...
[08:17] <Cntryboy> why doesn't kaffene have sound? the speaker is muted. I'm trying to play a dvd
[08:18] <raphink> justanother: you do not want to start it again
[08:18] <hey560> anyone else having problems with flac and amarok 1.4.1
[08:18] <raphink> since you said adept is unable to deal with your package
[08:18] <raphink> don' tuse it
[08:18] <raphink> ;)
[08:18] <raphink> go sudo apt-get -f install
[08:18] <raphink> and see what happens
[08:18] <raphink> :)
[08:19] <justanother> the database is used thing...
[08:19] <bobstro> Cntryboy:  do you have any sound?
[08:20] <justanother> now i can't even do sudo dpkg --configure -a, because the database is locked
[08:21] <raphink> hmm remove the lock file I'd say
[08:21] <raphink> i think the error message says where it is located
[08:21] <Cntryboy> bobstro: Not with in the movie with kaffine now, but sound in general yes
[08:22] <Cntryboy> I mean no not now
[08:22] <justanother> well, it works if i kill the adept process and then run the dpkg --conf...
[08:26] <Cntryboy> ?
[08:26] <Cntryboy> bobstro?
[08:26] <bobstro> Cntryboy:  not having that problem here, though that icon is misleading (speaker with slash thru it). it plays with sound in vlc for you?
[08:27] <Cntryboy> dunno I don't have vlc
[08:27] <Cntryboy> but when i had it on ubuntu yes
[08:28] <Cntryboy> can anyone help me with sound in kaffine please?
[08:32] <heretic> imbrandon:
[08:32] <heretic> Mate you there?
[08:32] <imbrandon> kinda
[08:33] <imbrandon> sup ?
[08:34] <heretic> hey mate
[08:34] <heretic> imbrandon:
[08:34] <heretic> im having troubles mate :(
[08:34] <imbrandon> ?
[08:34] <heretic> It makes me wanna put windows back on.
[08:34] <heretic> lol
[08:34] <imbrandon> sup?
[08:34] <heretic> My firefox is really jerky
[08:34] <heretic> and my Mp3 player, freezes and stops playin randomly.
[08:34] <imbrandon> while doing what ?
[08:34] <imbrandon> ouch
[08:35] <heretic> things are freezing :@
[08:35] <heretic> and i dont like it :(
[08:35] <imbrandon> what kinda computer do you have ?
[08:35] <kosh> heretic: what kind of cpu, what speed and how much ram do you have?
[08:35] <imbrandon> yea
[08:35] <heretic> P4 3.0 ghz 1 gig of ram.
[08:35] <heretic> 120gig hardrive
[08:35] <LionRock> Im connecting with tightVNC to my kubuntu machine. It looks like tVNC is connected to machin but it does not ask me for password ? on kubuntu machin it shows that Im connected: tcp6       0     0 ::ffff:10.0.0.25:5900 ::ffff:193.77.156.xxx:4835 TIME_WAIT
[08:35] <kosh> is your hard drive ide or sata?
[08:35] <heretic> ide
[08:36] <kosh> can you do sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda     in a konsole window and paste the results?
[08:37] <heretic> /dev/hda:
[08:37] <heretic>  Timing cached reads:   3468 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1733.89 MB/sec
[08:37] <heretic>  Timing buffered disk reads:  162 MB in  3.02 seconds =  53.64 MB/sec
[08:38] <heretic> when i click any other window, then the one i have open
[08:38] <kosh> okay sudo hdparm /dev/hda does it say that using_dma is 1?
[08:38] <heretic> it freezes/locks up and takes ages.
[08:39] <heretic> yes
[08:39] <heretic> Using_dma (1on)
[08:39] <kosh> can you put a konsole window somewhere that you can see it while clicking on other stuff and run top?
[08:39] <kosh> I want to know what is using the cpu time when you click to other windows
[08:39] <heretic> yeah
[08:39] <heretic> done
[08:39] <noaXess_kubuntu> what need i to install for creating ntfs partition's?
[08:39] <kosh> I think that only windows can create ntfs
[08:39] <kosh> linux can read but writing is unsafe
[08:39] <osiris> noaXess_kubuntu, write access to ntfs partitions isnt supported
[08:40] <heretic> hmmmm kosh
[08:40] <heretic> how do i see what my CPU is using?
[08:40] <noaXess_kubuntu> osiris: :(.. only access them.. hm..
[08:40] <osiris> rad access is fine
[08:40] <osiris> read
[08:40] <noaXess_kubuntu> heretic: top
[08:40] <kosh> run top in the konsole window
[08:41] <heretic> woah
[08:41] <heretic> alot of suff is there.
[08:41] <heretic> what am i lookin at mate?
[08:41] <osiris> it LIVES~! =)
[08:41] <kosh> I want you to click on various apps to move them forward and backward and take note of what apps show up near the top
[08:42] <heretic> when i drag a window, i get like major screenlag or something :S
[08:42] <kosh> also can you put the top lines of top down to the swap line in the pastebin?
[08:42] <heretic> I have no idea how to do that mate lol
[08:42] <kosh> yeah drag it so it does not cover the top window so you can see what is going on
[08:42] <heretic> yeah i can see whats going on when i drag the Konversation window.
[08:43] <heretic> but when i drag it it juts lags and freezes :(
[08:43] <kosh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/   that is the pastebin  copy the top 5 lines of the top output into the pastebin
[08:44] <heretic> i cant copy it
[08:45] <heretic> i copy it, then i cant paste it :S
[08:45] <heretic> wth?
[08:45] <justanother> everytime i start sth from the terminal i get this error-msg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17314
[08:45] <heretic> wait i did it lol
[08:46] <heretic> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17315
[08:47] <heretic> this is killing me
[08:47] <justanother> anybody knows what this error means (btw, the app starts anyway...)
[08:48] <heretic> any ideas kosh?
[08:48] <LionRock> can anybody help me :/
[08:48] <heretic> welcome back kosh
[08:49] <kosh> sorry I was playing with some kde config stuff
[08:49] <heretic> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17315
[08:49] <kosh> you you and the other person that asked for help put those pastebin links back up again?
[08:49] <kosh> okay so your system says it is not swapping, it is not out of memory, and that it is almost completely idle
[08:50] <kosh> heretic: and you using xgl or something like that?
[08:50] <kosh> s/and/are
[08:51] <kosh> I will be back in about 10-20 minutes
[08:52] <heretic> what is xgl?
[08:52] <heretic> or s/and/are?
[08:52] <scheuri> !xgl
[08:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:52] <heretic> i dont think im running it :S
[08:52] <heretic> i didnt install it or whatever.
[08:54] <heretic> im running "xorg"
[08:54] <heretic> is that that xgl thing :S
[08:54] <heretic> sorry guys im new, i appreciate your help.
[08:55] <justanother> kosh: everytime i start sth from the terminal i get this error-msg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17314
[08:56] <scheuri> heretic: no, xorg is not XGL
[08:56] <p1zz4> hi all, kann mir kurz jemand helfen?
[08:56] <scheuri> heretic: xorg is the X-Window needed to have a GUI (graphical user interfacd) such as KDE, Gnome, etc.
[08:57] <scheuri> p1zz4: englisch bitte...deutscher support gibt es im deutschen channel
[08:57] <p1zz4> sry, wrong chan
[08:58] <macd> is it normal for a upgrade from breezy to dapper after packages to only take about 5 minutes?
[08:58] <macd> after packages are downloaded...
[08:58] <scheuri> macd: I doubt it
[08:58] <macd> I just watched the minutes go from 59 to 2 then done and packages were just flying by
[08:59] <bobstro> i have two computers on kvm (a desktop, and dell laptop). display on desktop is beautiful on this lcd (with nvidia driver) but on same lcd, laptop display is fuzzy (ati driver). any ideas on how to get both looking ood?
[08:59] <macd> they went down by 1 minute each but in 1 second increments per se
[09:00] <macd> I guess I'll have to wait till it restarts to see if it worked
[09:00] <scheuri> macd: I really suspecting some failures there...was it a server installation? desktop?
[09:00] <macd> desktop, its a pretty fast machine
[09:00] <scheuri> macd: still...kinde weird it took just a few minutes
[09:01] <heretic> hmmm
[09:01] <macd> yeah I thought as well took about 45 minutes on my laptop
[09:01] <heretic> i want to know why my comp is lagging/freezing/up
[09:01] <Zaire> ram with mixed frequencies perhaps.... that was my problem
[09:01] <macd> scheuri: well it just came back to the gdm login and I logged in....its fine.
[09:02] <_rince_> mrgn
[09:02] <macd> I wasnt this fast prior, SMP kernel may have helped ..
[09:02] <heretic> whats the newest version of cedagra out?
[09:02] <heretic> 5.1?
[09:02] <macd> cedega?
[09:02] <scheuri> macd: hmm...that does lsb_release say?
[09:02] <LionRock> Im connecting with tightVNC to my kubuntu machine. It looks like tVNC is connected to machin but it does not ask me for password ? on kubuntu machin it shows that Im connected: tcp6       0     0 ::ffff:10.0.0.25:5900 ::ffff:193.77.156.xxx:4835 TIME_WAIT
[09:03] <scheuri> heretic: aye, 5.1 is pretty new I think
[09:03] <philliposophy> so i'm learning that KDE programs run well in Ubuntu (probably in addition to kubuntu) but I can't access the help files. Is that common?
[09:03] <macd> no lsb modules available
[09:03] <scheuri> philliposophy: maybe they are not installed?...I must admit I dont know just now what kind of package you need to install
[09:03] <macd> kernel 2.6.15-25 though, thats dapper correct?
[09:03] <scheuri> macd: "lsb_release -v" or something
[09:03] <Hobbsee> macd: yep
[09:04] <justanother> how can i mount a hidden partition of an external hdd (usb)
[09:04] <macd> still no lsb modules, but it seems to be fine...
[09:04] <philliposophy> no i installed a bunch tonight and theyre working just fine. It's only when I try to access the help files when I run into problems
[09:04] <macd> Ive just never seen a upgrade go that fast
[09:05] <philliposophy> Even with Konversation
[09:05] <macd> for the record dual xeon (new dual-core ones) very fast on SMP kernel.
[09:05] <philliposophy> "Could not launch the KDE Help Center"
[09:06] <macd> is it normal to have the output of no lsb modules ?
[09:06] <macd> after -v option passed
[09:06] <philliposophy> night
[09:07] <justanother> the partitions of the external hdd doesn't show up in mount -l (altough the ones that aren't hidden are displayed in konqueror)
[09:09] <edulix> hi !
[09:10] <edulix> which was the alternative to del.icio.us, smoething like sa.broso.us or similar, but can't find it
[09:10] <KaiserSuse> edulix: plea.se.tell.us
[09:10] <heretic> im contemplating put on mac x86 on
[09:10] <heretic> i give up :(
[09:11] <Zaire> my new PC gonna be mac x86 lol
[09:11] <heretic> lol
[09:11] <heretic> You building a "hackintosh" ?
[09:11] <Zaire> nopes norm PC just with mac os
[09:11] <heretic> have you checked the HCL to make sure all your components are compatable.
[09:12] <heretic> because its really touchy.
[09:12] <Zaire> gonna have AMD 64 Dual Core 4800
[09:12] <heretic> and if you dont check it and just build it, i gurantee you something wont work, e.g sound, ethernet etc
[09:12] <KaiserSuse> hey, how would one make an .iso from a Mac OS X install dvd?
[09:12] <heretic> youd have to make a .dmg KaiserSuse
[09:12] <Hobbsee> hi KaiserSuse
[09:12] <heretic> then convert that into an .iso mate
[09:13] <heretic> theres a program that does that, i just cant remember the name :S
[09:13] <KaiserSuse> Hobbsee: hello
[09:13] <Zaire> see sometimes download and try is best to do before buy lol
[09:13] <KaiserSuse> heretic: MacDrive?
[09:13] <heretic> Yeah i think thats it.
[09:13] <heretic> KaiserSuse:  i run a site where you can get ultraiso ;)
[09:13] <heretic> But i dont want to paste it here, and it be considered spam
[09:13] <heretic> and i cant notice you or pm you cause im not reggd.
[09:14] <Zaire> ultraiso is windows software kinda useless here
[09:14] <heretic> ahhh thats right lol
[09:14] <heretic> forgot im in linux channel
[09:14] <heretic> :D
[09:14] <Zaire> K3b is good though
[09:14] <heretic> I have a linux/other os's forum on my site lol
[09:14] <heretic> thats where im getting cedagra!
[09:14] <heretic> for free :D
[09:14] <Zaire> ?
[09:14] <Zaire> free cedega?
[09:15] <heretic> yeah its warez though mate lol
[09:15] <KaiserSuse> I don't have the Mac OS X disc here but I wanted to try dd if=/dev/dvd of=macos.iso
[09:15] <scheuri> heretic: this is about GPL, please do NOT support warez
[09:15] <Zaire> ah ic lol I want cedega on my PC for the september lan party lol
[09:15] <heretic> sorry scheuri lol
[09:15] <heretic> how do i register?
[09:17] <heretic_01> lol Zaire
[09:17] <heretic_01> Did you get my notice mate?
[09:17] <Zaire> yes
[09:18] <niranjan> hi
[09:19] <koriel> how can I upgrade my kernel to 2.6.16?
[09:20] <koriel> I mean can I do this with adept?
[09:20] <kosh> back
[09:20] <scheuri> koriel: either by downloading the source and compiling on your own, or finding it as binary package somewhere
[09:20] <scheuri> koriel: no, (to your second question), unless it is offered by one of your sources in source.list
[09:20] <koriel> it's not and I really need it
[09:21] <kosh> justanother: sorry no idea on that one
[09:21] <NeoChaosX> yeah, a 2.6.16 kernel won't be officially released for dapper
[09:21] <NeoChaosX> you'd have to compile it yourself
[09:21] <scheuri> koriel: in /etc/apt/source.list you define where your adept is looking for packages...called repository...if you find a repository that has 2.6.16 then you are lucky enough to install it with adept
[09:21] <kosh> heretic_01: is this a fresh install that is having all of these slowdowns, did the slowdowns start right away or did they happen later?
[09:21] <koriel> how can I compile it with the configuration of my current kernel?
[09:22] <crimsun> cp over /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[09:22] <kosh> koriel: why do you want to upgrade your kernel?
[09:22] <imbrandon>  http://www.buntudot.org/2006/07/06/buntudotorg-radio-podcast-2/  <-- interview with LaserJock about Paris UDS if anyone cares ;)
[09:22] <koriel> to support my builtin webcam
[09:22] <koriel> it needs the gspca driver
[09:23] <kosh> ah
[09:23] <kosh> how much do you know about compiling software, hardware etc?
[09:23] <scheuri> koriel: you are able to use your config which is located at /boot/ and its called config-[yourkernel]  as crimsun said
[09:24] <koriel> kosh: much enough I suppose but I'm a little scared...I'm used to slackware
[09:24] <scheuri> koriel: use this config when compiling the new kernel. However you might be asked some more because as kernel changes it changes also its options
[09:24] <koriel> and kubuntu seems different
[09:24] <Zaire> for some reason I can't apt vlc
[09:24] <scheuri> Zaire: have you added multiverse and universe repository?
[09:25] <Zaire> don't even know how and I don't get the help docs
[09:25] <kosh> making your own kernel is not recommended
[09:25] <scheuri> !repos
[09:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:25] <kosh> and you need to know about grub also so you can get your new kerkel in right
[09:25] <scheuri> Zaire: check the second URL suggested by ubotu
[09:25] <Zaire> I tried that and had to restore my sources.list file
[09:26] <scheuri> Zaire: what happend?
[09:26] <Zaire> couldn't apt anything
[09:26] <scheuri> Zaire: after changing the sources.list you ALWAYS need to do an update (such as "sudo aptitude update" or in adept)
[09:27] <kosh> sudo apt-get update
[09:27] <Zaire> tried
[09:27] <koriel> is there a tool to configure grub in kubuntu?
[09:27] <scheuri> or "sudo aptitude update"
[09:27] <kosh> sudo update-grub will do it automatically pretty much
[09:27] <scheuri> Zaire...okay...may you pastebin your curren sources.list?
[09:27] <kosh> assuming that /boot/grub/menu.lst is set correctly
[09:27] <scheuri> !pastebin
[09:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:30] <koriel> just that and I will get a kernel choice prompt at boot time when I'm done?
[09:31] <scheuri> Zaire: ookay...FIRST: set a # in front of Line 5! (which is the CD-ROM thing)
[09:31] <scheuri> Zaire: SECOND: remove the # in line 22/23 and 32/33
[09:32] <scheuri> Zaire: THIRD: remove the # at line 38/39
[09:32] <scheuri> Zaire: after that...very important...do a "sudo aptitude update" or use adpet to update your sources
[09:33] <scheuri> adept*
[09:34] <Zaire> update is in progress
[09:34] <scheuri> Zaire: good
[09:34] <Zaire> I say screw GUI editing lol
[09:34] <scheuri> Zaire: the line 5 is now commented...that means when installing stuff, it does NOT ask for the CD-ROM anymore...
[09:35] <Zaire> good that was a pain
[09:35] <scheuri> :)
[09:35] <scheuri> Zaire: is update complete?
[09:36] <Zaire> yeps
[09:36] <scheuri> Zaire: then "aptitude search vlc"
[09:36] <Zaire> there now Im able to apt it
[09:37] <scheuri> Zaire: "sudo aptitude install vlc"
[09:37] <scheuri> Zaire: et voila...:)
[09:37] <Zaire> thx
[09:37] <scheuri> very welcome
[09:37] <Zaire> does this mean I have mp3 support to or is that another area?
[09:38] <scheuri> Zaire: that is another area...let me point you to the wiki
[09:38] <scheuri> !restricted
[09:38] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:38] <scheuri> follow the first guide and the the others...then you should be set for mp3
[09:38] <scheuri> Zaire: its actually quite easy
[09:43] <koriel> kosh: so I just copy paste config from /boot in new kernel and make
[09:44] <Zaire> all I needs for lan is mp3 so I don't need to lug around my music CD wallet, Unreal tourny, video playback and Cedega for BF2 and Counterstrike 1.6 lol
[09:45] <kosh> koriel: once you configure the kernel you will want to use make-kpkg binary
[09:45] <kosh> koriel: that way the system will make deb files for you to install
[09:45] <Zaire> I think though for doing mp3 repositories I might just get the sections from a friend of mine lol
[09:46] <kosh> koriel: you will also want to use make menuconfig or make xconfig to look through the kernel config to add support for the device you want supported
[09:47] <kosh> well I am wandering off have fun
[09:47] <lowtech> Zaire: get the dual monitors working?
[09:47] <Zaire> yeps lol then beat my head against my keyboard for how easy it was lol
[09:47] <lowtech> ok
[09:48] <Zaire> I didn't know you had to enable the damn drivers lol
[09:48] <LionRock> Im connecting with tightVNC to my kubuntu machine. It looks like tVNC is connected to machin but it does not ask me for password ? on kubuntu machin it shows that Im connected: tcp6       0     0 ::ffff:10.0.0.25:5900 ::ffff:193.77.156.xxx:4835 TIME_WAIT
[09:48] <Zaire> I even got Unreal tourny working
[09:48] <koriel> kosh: I can't, Im getting an error when running make menuconfig
[09:50] <fek> moin
[10:03] <DaSkreech> !wmv
[10:03] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:04] <damy[] > hi all
[10:04] <damy[] > in kubuntu, where is synpatic?
[10:05] <mindspin> its kynaptic or adept
[10:10] <weedar> After removing tor and privoxy apt-get still seems to want to use the proxy that isn't there - how can I turn it off?
[10:10] <fek> it's configured in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:13] <Zaire> what program can be used to extract .rar?
[10:14] <damy[] > mindspin, can you help me to add at adptic universe repository?
[10:15] <fiyawerx> Zaire: unrar?
[10:15] <damy[] > how can i add universe repository at adptic?
[10:15] <Zaire> k got it now how do I use it lol
[10:16] <fiyawerx> unrar <filename>
[10:16] <fiyawerx> with no <>'s ofc
[10:16] <weedar> fek, I don't see any reference to using a proxy in sources.list
[10:16] <fiyawerx> Zaire: or if that doesn't work, just type unrar for the syntax
[10:16] <fek> weedar: please paste it somewhere
[10:16] <lowtech> unrar -e file.rar i believe
[10:17] <fek> weedar: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:17] <fek> no
[10:17] <fek> x
[10:17] <fiyawerx> lowtech: thanks
[10:17] <fek> without a -
[10:17] <fek> and x will create the folders, too.
[10:17] <fek> e won't create the folders out of the archive
[10:17] <Zaire> I get nothing from unrara <filename> or unrar just says command not found
[10:17] <fek> unrar x foobar.rar
[10:17] <lowtech> ah, wasn't sure on the -
[10:17] <fek> Zaire: apt-get install unrar-free
[10:18] <fek> lowtech: i had the problem often, too. ;)(
[10:18] <weedar> fek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17321 - But I still think the settings that make apt-get use a proxy lie elsewhere :)
[10:18] <Zaire> I did that but it doesn't seem to be working :(
[10:18] <fiyawerx> !java
[10:18] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:18] <fiyawerx> !flash
[10:18] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:18] <fek> Zaire: sorry: apt-get install unrar
[10:19] <fek> Zaire: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ is your friend
[10:19] <Zaire> the first one was right I got it but it doesn't seem to be working
[10:19] <fek> Zaire: is your archive corrupt?
[10:19] <fek> what happens when you do unrar x file.rar?
[10:20] <Zaire> I hnothing says bash command not found
[10:20] <Zaire> damn can't type lol
[10:21] <fek> Zaire: you are sure, that you installed unrar?!
[10:21] <Zaire>  it says its already the latest version when I try to apt-get it again
[10:23] <fek> Zaire: unrar itself or unrar-free?
[10:23] <Zaire> unrar-free and it says there is no candidate for the other
[10:23] <fek> Zaire: that's the problem, you need the multiverse tree
[10:23] <fek> Zaire: watch into your sources.list
[10:23] <Healot> pansu- pansu-
[10:24] <fek> Zaire: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=unrar&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=dapper&arch=i386
[10:24] <markc> has anyone built a new kernel for dapper ? .. what is the debian/rules invocation for a 686 SMP ?
[10:25] <markc> AUTOBUILD=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs flavours=686 <- I tried this and it seems it still tried to build an i386 kernel.. but it crapped out anyway
[10:26] <_niels> Hi there I recently installed Dapper and now I'm a bit in trouble as DD doesn't like NDISwrapper
[10:26] <Zaire> what kinda of @zzhat would rar a file made for linux anyway
[10:26] <_niels> has anyone an idea how to get it work?
[10:28] <Hobbsee> _niels: DD?
[10:28] <Zaire> isnt their another program that can be used to unrar files
[10:28] <Hobbsee> and define "doesnt like'
[10:28] <Hobbsee> Zaire: ark
[10:28] <Hobbsee> i think
[10:28] <Zaire> ark won't unrar my file though
[10:31] <_niels> Hobbsee: Dapper Drake
[10:31] <Hobbsee> _niels: right.  and define "doesnt like"?
[10:31] <_niels> <pre wrap="">You need a recent kernel at least 2.6.6 or 2.4.26 with source.
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[10:32] <_niels> Hobbsee: I have a kernel 2.6.23i386
[10:32] <Hobbsee> _niels: is that from the package off the cd?
[10:33] <Zaire> damn why would you make it so that a program like unrar has to have a repository its got to be one of the stupidest things Ive heard
[10:33] <_niels> Hobbsee: no, I've used the one from sourceforge
[10:33] <Hobbsee> !ndiswrapper
[10:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:34] <Hobbsee> _niels: did you grab the linux-headers-($uname -r)?
[10:34] <Healot> pansu- pansu-
[10:34] <Zaire> I need unrar but that site link I was given just keeps taking me in circles
[10:35] <_niels> Hobbsee: nope, not as yet...
[10:35] <EvilIdler> I've got  Realtek 8169 gigabit NIC that ceased to function today. I removed some memory, and it didn't work on bootup. Tried latest kernel.
[10:36] <Hobbsee> _niels: there's your problem.   see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#head-c1ebf95637d110c5f01b9a1383d137f79d8cbddb
[10:36] <EvilIdler> It keeps saying "link is not ready" when I try to configure it :/
[10:37] <_niels> Hobbsee: Thanks a lot I'll give it a try
[10:37] <Zaire> seriouly this unrar thing is one of the things that could keep me from a full crossover from wondows to linux and believe me I plan on being the first at the lan party Im going to to be running a pure linux System
[10:37] <Hobbsee> !unrar
[10:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about unrar
[10:38] <Hobbsee> !rar
[10:38] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[10:38] <Hobbsee> Zaire: ^?
[10:39] <fek> is there a problem known with konsole and transparent background?
[10:39] <Zaire> that link doesn say much
[10:41] <Healot> !info unrar-free
[10:41] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[10:41] <Healot> !info unrar-nonfree
[10:41] <ubotu> Package unrar-nonfree does not exist in dapper
[10:41] <Healot> !find unrar
[10:41] <ubotu> Found: unrar-free, unrar
[10:41] <Healot> !info unrar
[10:41] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[10:43] <Zaire> adept even says its installed
[10:45] <Zaire> ok I removed it from adept and tried again nothing still
[10:48] <lowtech> what about with sudo
[10:48] <Zaire> nope it just says bash command not found
[10:50] <lowtech> sorry, i'm too knew to kubuntu and that box is off. i don't know how to use apt to show a packages files either, if it can
[10:51] <Zaire> Im new to it to Im used to mainly redhat 9
[10:55] <LionRock> Im connecting with tightVNC to my kubuntu machine. It looks like tVNC is connected to machin but it does not ask me for password ? on kubuntu machin it shows that Im connected: tcp6       0     0 ::ffff:10.0.0.25:5900 ::ffff:193.77.156.xxx:4835 TIME_WAIT
[10:57] <gatekeeper> Zaire: take a look at this: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/57845-rar-ark-any-other-way.html
[11:02] <Zaire> its something to do with my repositories I believe
[11:03] <exceswater> hey pplz
[11:03] <Zaire> but Im totaly **censored** cluless as to how to fix it
[11:03] <exceswater> i have a problem
[11:03] <exceswater> in some flash games
[11:04] <exceswater> if i press right keys for the game nothing happens
[11:04] <exceswater> why ?
[11:05] <Zaire> damnit this is annoying
[11:06] <Healot> pansu- pansu-
[11:07] <gatekeeper> Zaire: If I look in synaptic unrar and unrar-free are listed I suggest you modify your sources like this and install either/or http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[11:09] <Healot> h.323 gatekeeper?
[11:09] <gatekeeper> Zaire: as far as I can see all you need to do is ensure on of these pacakages are installed then use the CLI and enter the command: unrar x file.rar where file.rar is the name of your file
[11:10] <Zaire> Im still confused about this repository stuff I mean I have no idea what exactly Im supposed to change and how
[11:11] <gatekeeper> Healot: something to do with VoIP :-)
[11:11] <Shanghaiteej> repositories are just a bunch of links to different webistes/servers
[11:12] <Shanghaiteej> when you use synaptic or adept, you are comparing the software you have on your computer, to the versions on the repository servers
[11:12] <Shanghaiteej> so when you type: sudo kate apt-get /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:12] <Healot> gatekeeper: is the telephony business blooming in the UK?
[11:12] <Shanghaiteej> you are looking at all the addresses of your repository list
[11:12] <Shanghaiteej> does that make sense Zaire
[11:13] <gatekeeper> Zaire: just follow the howto you are essentially replacing the contents of a text file which tell apt/Adept/Synaptic where all the repositories are, after the basic install not all are enabled
[11:14] <Zaire> still isn't clear cause the how to says replace all but I don't know if thats gonna mess up other repository stuff Ive done
[11:14] <Shanghaiteej> no
[11:14] <Shanghaiteej> it won't
[11:14] <gatekeeper> Healot: Tesco are flogging their VoIP telephone as much as they can, BT still making money had over fist with landlines but that will change over time
[11:14] <Shanghaiteej> you will be fine
[11:15] <Shanghaiteej> just make sure you type: sudo apt-get update
[11:15] <Shanghaiteej> in your terminal before you open up synaptic or adept
[11:15] <Zaire> but that site has less sources in the list then my sources file
[11:15] <Shanghaiteej> yeah
[11:15] <cox377> hey all
[11:15] <Shanghaiteej> you can compact it
[11:15] <cox377> does anyone use the KBFX applet?
[11:15] <Shanghaiteej> don't worry
[11:15] <gatekeeper> Zaire: back your file up as it suggests then you can either go back to it or extract bits out of it
[11:15] <Healot> gatekeeper: but your operators are in India right?
[11:16] <Shanghaiteej> i don't think he has even edited his sources.list file yet
[11:16] <Shanghaiteej> so he wouldn't need to
[11:16] <gatekeeper> Healot: some are yes
[11:16] <Zaire> it would be nice if they could make it so you have to apt the program and not have to mess with stuff
[11:16] <Shanghaiteej> you mean install it like windows?
[11:16] <Healot> gatekeeper: can I work with BT if I am Indian?
[11:16] <Shanghaiteej> you can still do that
[11:16] <Shanghaiteej> this just makes it easier
[11:16] <Shanghaiteej> because if they is an update
[11:16] <Zaire> actually I have edited it to enable certain stuff but was walked through it
[11:16] <gatekeeper> Healot: I guess
[11:17] <Shanghaiteej> adept/synaptic will automitcally inform you
[11:17] <Shanghaiteej> alright, well make sure you don't delete them
[11:17] <Shanghaiteej> a screwed up sources.list is not going to mess up your computer
[11:17] <Shanghaiteej> you can always fix it
[11:18] <Shanghaiteej> if you try to update it, all ubuntu will say is that your sources.list is messed up
[11:19] <cox377> does anyone here use KBFX???
[11:19] <Pupeno> Hello.
[11:20] <gatekeeper> Zaire: It's not that difficult and far superior to windows :-)
[11:20] <Pupeno> I see that in .bashrc there's code for colorfull prompts, yet, the prompt is boringly plain in Konsole and xterm. Does anybody know why ?
[11:21] <Healot> it's because the color setting in konsole doesn't use .bashrc?
[11:21] <Zaire> I **censored** hate windows but I also hate editing files like this to
[11:21] <Healot> Settings -> Configure Console; click on Schema tab
[11:21] <Pupeno> Healot: color settings in konsole ? what do you mean ?
[11:21] <Pupeno> Healot: no configuration in Konsole should change how bash prints the prompt. Am I wrong ?
[11:22] <Healot> ls -a >> you'll see colors
[11:22] <Pupeno> Healot: I am talking about the prompt, not the output of other programs. I am talking about PS1.
[11:22] <gatekeeper> Zaire: with linux it usually come with the teritory :-)
[11:23] <Zaire> I know but its annoying none the less
[11:24] <Zaire> my attampts to switch completely over to linux have been the reason I have formatted my computer close to 35 times this month my persistence know no bound but my patients on the other hand does
[11:25] <Healot> don't switch to Linux if you think you're not ready yet
[11:25] <gatekeeper> Zaire: depends what you are looking for, many people will tell you it is power to control your own system and configure it the way you want it, it's a little off putting when you first start but as you get to know your system it becomes more natural
[11:26] <DaSkreech> Whats the problem?
[11:26] <Zaire> Im switching to linux cause my only other alternative is mac and I hate windows and mac with a passion and have been trying to switch over in actuality for the last 5 years
[11:26] <DaSkreech> BeOS? :)
[11:27] <Zaire> I also have been considering taking a Linux course
[11:27] <insanekane> Zaire: sorry for this in advance, but I've been waiting for an opportunity like this ... if you don't like it, change it ;P
[11:27] <Healot> take it know then...
[11:28] <Zaire> an guess what go figure the source list stuff from that site didn't work it still say bash command not found
[11:28] <gatekeeper> Zaire: (k)ubuntu is a distro where you have to do some extra bits & pieces after you install, and the up side is your learn as you go on, if you want something that "works out of the box" try PCLinuxOS or Mepis
[11:29] <gatekeeper> Zaire: have you installed it?
[11:29] <Zaire> like I said my persistence know no bound and alot of that is related to the fact that Im mildly obsessive compulsive
[11:30] <Healot> Zaire: f***?
[11:30] <Zaire> IM not gonna quit till Ive finished in other words
[11:30] <chun_> thumbs up* =p
[11:31] <Burne> Go to www.idpz.net/tomytom/linuxblog.htm :)
[11:31] <ChunLaptop> what happened? repository problem?
[11:32] <Healot> linux blogs are infested with try outs and stupid people who are "trying" out
[11:32] <rob> except mine :)
[11:33] <Healot> i hate line saying "Yesterday, I tried this distro and this does not work, and that doesn't work bla bla"
[11:34] <EvilIdler> Hehe. Today, it's networking not working for me. But other than that, my blog would be a boring "Ubuntu still works" every day :)
[11:34] <Healot> try starting such blog with that line alike, I'll kill your blog for sure :)
[11:35] <LEO9> whenever i am in kde, many kde apps (i haven't tested them all) ignore my LD_PRELOAD variable (it seems kde deliberately forces them to do it). this also happens in other wms, but only when i start the kde application from konsole (the kde terminal). this never happens with non-kde apps, not even in kde. how do i fix this?
[11:35] <EvilIdler> Why even bother with Linux blogs, anyway?
[11:35] <LEO9> EvilIdler: what is a *linux* blog?
[11:35] <LEO9> EvilIdler: a blog on a linux server?
[11:35] <EvilIdler> LEO9: Feck knows!
[11:36] <EvilIdler> There's no need to just talk about it for the sake of it. Websites related to specific software are more useful :)
[11:37] <EvilIdler> Gah, my network card is acting as if it's broken :/
[11:37] <Zaire> screw it
[11:37] <Healot> dump ubuntu then.. hohoho
[11:38] <EvilIdler> Yeah, right. I need rest, not constant fiddling :)
[11:39] <EvilIdler> Guess I'll have to swap cards on computers to determine if it's really broken. I have a green light when powering on, though it disappears once the driver loads :(
[11:40] <ChunLaptop> aye sarcastic angry people on the channel today?
[11:42] <Healot> aye aye captain
[11:46] <ChunLaptop> anyone else here having problems w/ the flash plugin and firefox?
[11:47] <Healot> a lot of them out there
[11:47] <Healot> i use Adobe's Flash with Konqueror, and I can play the suicide bomber game now
[11:48] <ChunLaptop> yea i ended up using konqueror for flash sites now,
[11:49] <ChunLaptop> just wondering if anyone tried a recompile of firefox and if it solved the problem
[11:49] <Healot> what problem though
[11:50] <ChunLaptop> firefox freezes up when using the flash plugin for 3 of my systems, but konqueror's ok w/ it
[11:51] <ChunLaptop> flash intensive sites* like myspace or whatever
[11:51] <Healot> the proprietary flash, or the free one
[11:53] <ChunLaptop> proprietary i think, when you visit a flash site firefox downloads and installs flash
[11:54] <exceswater> healot
[11:54] <exceswater> give me an advice plz
[11:54] <exceswater> when i try to play some flash games
[11:54] <exceswater> sometimes it seems like it won't recognize keys
[11:54] <exceswater> :d
[11:54] <exceswater> why
[11:55] <ChunLaptop> >< that sounds more like a problem w/ the game than w/ flash
[11:56] <Healot> can't give any advice on that, since Flash is proprietary, but I can give a bad advice, use Internet Explore :)
[11:57] <ChunLaptop> yuck =p
[11:57] <Healot> it solves all your Flash problems
[11:57] <Healot> literally gone
[11:58] <wily> hi all
[11:58] <ChunLaptop> wine doesn't solve a lot of problems =p
[11:58] <ChunLaptop> hello
[12:00] <Healot> It shouldn't because too much of WINE can get you drunk
[12:00] <Healot> Windows is the best operating system to run Windows applications
[12:02] <ChunLaptop> flash is an internet app* works well in other distros, just not ubuntu
[12:04] <ChunLaptop> and getting drunk is a good thing once in a while, good for the heart and better before clubbing haha
[12:06] <Healot> yup
[12:06] <Healot> yet many ubuntu users complain about Flash
[12:09] <ChunLaptop> i guess i'll live w/ using konqueror as my main webbrowser
[12:09] <Healot> Konq all the way, dump Firefox
[12:09] <Jack1> guys why does the system tray icon for battery disappears from my tray<<<<<<<always<
[12:10] <Jack1> ?
[12:10] <Healot> I am hating firefox these days
[12:10] <ChunLaptop> my battery icon stays all the time in my sys tray
[12:12] <ChunLaptop> jack1, try right clicking on your battery icon, click configure KLaptop and make sure show battery Monitor is checked
[12:14] <Jack1> how could i make a cd ripper faster?
[12:14] <Jack1> how to turn on dma?
[12:15] <Healot> !dma
[12:15] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[12:16] <ChunLaptop> you shouldn't need to worry bout dma
[12:16] <_niels> Hi Folks what means this message: LD-static final link failed ; I'm on Dapper Drake
[12:17] <ChunLaptop> what were you trying to do niels?
[12:17] <Jack1> ChunLaptop klaptop is configured right and the icon turned on, but it keeps disapperaing from the kicker!how could i mak eg grip or soundjuicer rip fater<??
[12:17] <_niels> ChunLaptop: Well I basically have installed KUbuntu and in the process of its first boot i became that message
[12:18] <guillermo> hola
[12:19] <_niels> ChunLaptop: any ideas?
[12:20] <ChunLaptop> you probably have a bad install then niels
[12:20] <ChunLaptop> cuz you were able to run the live CD right?
[12:20] <_niels> ChunLaptop: yes, I was able to run the Live Version
[12:21] <vladi> hi guys, quick question, before I installed cedega 5.1 from a .deb, now what do i need to do to install the new version (5.2) from a .deb?
[12:21] <ChunLaptop> yea something probably didn't get copied over from the CD, if you are having link problems on a fresh install
[12:22] <ChunLaptop> i'm not sure jack,
[12:23] <_vladi_> would i do a dpkg -r and then a dpkg -i
[12:23] <ChunLaptop> vladi, dpkg -i should be fine
[12:24] <_vladi_> kk, wasnt sure if i had to remove it first
[12:24] <_niels> ChunLaptop: Could it be that the image is kind of broken?
[12:25] <ChunLaptop> vladi? do you happen to be vladimir from UCR?
[12:25] <_vladi_> my name is Vladimir, but i'm probably not that guy :-)
[12:25] <_niels> ChunLaptop: The thing is/was: I tried to install ndis using adept and adept cooldn't find it. Then I thought I should go for a reinstall
[12:25] <_niels> ChunLaptop: and then I did get that error-message
[12:26] <ChunLaptop> oh ok i thought maybe you could be my computer science TA haha
[12:26] <_vladi_> dpkg-deb: `cedega-small_5.2_i386.deb' is not a debian format archive
[12:26] <_vladi_> did i get a bad archive?
[12:26] <ChunLaptop> niels adept couldn't find ndiswrapper?
[12:28] <ChunLaptop> vladi check the size of the file make sure it's not 0, could be a bad archive
[12:29] <ChunLaptop> you trying to install the free cedega?
[12:29] <_vladi_> nah, cedega cedega
[12:29] <_vladi_> heh
[12:29] <_vladi_> yea its 1.3meg
[12:29] <_vladi_> normally its around 7..
[12:29] <_vladi_> musta got corrupted in the d/l or something
[12:30] <ChunLaptop> niels when you say reinstall, you mean reinstall the whole OS?
[12:32] <ChunLaptop> but yea if it's a fresh install and it gives link errors it's probably a bad install
[12:34] <ChunLaptop> anyone here try SLED and compared it to kubuntu?(suse linux enterprise desktop)
[12:35] <DanielW> hi
[12:35] <ChunLaptop> hellloooo
[12:36] <DanielW> how can i install kdenetworkmanager?
[12:37] <ChunLaptop> you trying to find a wifi manager?
[12:38] <ChunLaptop> wlassistant is the wireless assistant to connect to different ssids
[12:38] <_niels> ChunLaptop: sorry, i had to be on the phone for a sec
[12:38] <_niels> ChunLaptop: yep. I had to reinstall the whole OS
[12:39] <DanielW> ChunLaptop: but wlassistant is not kdenetworkmanager :-(
[12:40] <_niels> ChunLaptop: I have a doc here (but its in german) - in which they've compared KUbuntu, Fedora and SLED
[12:40] <Healot> Ass - the other vagina LOL
[12:40] <ChunLaptop> niels, after you reinstalled and it gave you link errors then that means it didn't install correctly, so you need to reinstall again
[12:43] <ChunLaptop> healot, yuck i dont want my **** to smell like ****  + you want to make the girl gag not puke afterwards lol
[12:46] <Lynoure> Hmmm
[12:47] <DanielW> http://tom.acrewoods.net/node/431 <- argh where did he get it from?
[12:47] <ChunLaptop> i give good advice on everything, i need a halo over my head and a 100k job,   danielW well if it's not in the repository, you're proably gonna hafta find the repository w/ it or look for a DEB file
[12:48] <ChunLaptop> or compile from source~ download source from main site ./configure, make, make install,        and use adept to get any files its missing
[12:50] <ChunLaptop> sorry lyn! no means to offend anyone in the channel
[12:50] <DanielW> ChunLaptop: put ist should be in the repository. at least someone in the german kubuntu forums says that (or it could be understand that way)
[12:50] <Lynoure> ChunLaptop: It just seemed totally irrelevant. Mostly you are probably just offending your girl.
[12:51] <Healot> sorry my bad
[12:51] <Healot> just some tag line from T-Shirt my friend is wearing
[12:52] <ChunLaptop> yea it's irrelevant healot started it, sorry again
[12:53] <ChunLaptop> i'm trying to feed into everyone's conversation here
[12:53] <Healot> I found it offensively funny
[12:53] <Lynoure> And I was just poking my head here between boring bug hunting and boring documenting...
[12:54] <ChunLaptop> ooh bug hunting? flash plugin is no good in firefox but works in konqueror
[12:54] <Lynoure> ChunLaptop: I'll be a software tester by trade for 9 workdays still. Not my cup of tea.
[12:56] <ChunLaptop> yikes, i just graduated so i'm looking into what options i have
[12:57] <Healot> career option?
[12:57] <ChunLaptop> yea, graduated as computer science
[12:58] <Lynoure> ChunLaptop: Unless you like criticizing other people's work and hate fixing/building things, and still are not a completely annoying when going to critizicing, I wouldn't recommend it
[12:58] <Healot> just like me...
[12:58] <Lynoure> AAt least for me, being a sysadmin or programmer is far more satisfying
[12:59] <sensei> Yeah, I hear you
[12:59] <ChunLaptop> yea, that's exactly what i want to do
[12:59] <sensei> Well, sometimes it's nice to critizise someone in-house rather than getting it yourself from a client :)
[12:59] <ChunLaptop> i've been doing some game programming, so maybe that or jr linux sys admin would be good, or MySQL + PHP developer
[01:00] <Healot> ChunLaptop: are you willing to work in India?
[01:00] <ChunLaptop> no healot, going to india doesn't seem like an option for me, i like sunny california =)
[01:01] <Healot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_panda >> the real firefox
[01:01] <sensei> Do what I did, get some windows know-how, take a job at a small to medium company, and then migrate their whole computer park to Linux, it was great fun
[01:02] <sensei> Although not completely hassle-free
[01:02] <Lynoure> sensei: Sounds like it :)
[01:02] <Healot> and American companies are shifting jobs to India
[01:04] <cox377> sensei: how big is your company?
[01:05] <Lynoure> Healot: Where is your company located, btw?
[01:05] <ChunLaptop> yea there had to be some hassles, i been learning all the win server2003 stuff, and visual studio
[01:05] <Healot> Malaysia
[01:05] <Healot> :)
[01:05] <Healot> it's the little India
[01:05] <sensei> cox377: Not working there anymore (not because of that though ;)) But it had 140 or so employees
[01:06] <Healot> Microsoft Malaysia hired 42 Indian programmer last year
[01:06] <cox377> that a lot of turn around
[01:06] <cox377> ; )
[01:06] <sensei> :)
[01:06] <Lynoure> Healot: my hubby spend his childhood there.
[01:07] <Healot> 26 of those Indian programmers somehow arrested by the local cops
[01:08] <Healot> because local police confused them over another group of illegal Indian immigrants
[01:09] <Jack1> hi
[01:09] <ChunLaptop> yea some day i hope to do that sensei, still looking i was thinking of getting those certifications but eck, more classes =p =p
[01:09] <Jack1> add a PPD (Postscript Printer Description) file that is suited for LaserJet 1020
[01:10] <Jack1> how to do that?
[01:10] <arso> hey guys
[01:10] <exceswater> who can help me
[01:10] <exceswater> in some flash games i cannot play
[01:10] <ChunLaptop> hello
[01:10] <exceswater> it doesn't take the keystrokes
[01:10] <exceswater> why ?
[01:10] <Jack1> HOW CAN Iadd a PPD (Postscript Printer Description) file that is suited for LaserJet 1020?
[01:10] <arso> i am using wine to instal a game , "wine /mnt/hdb5/CS/CS 1.6.exe" isnt this the right command? i am ge tting locaation not found or something
[01:10] <sensei> ChunLaptop: Yeah, not at all what you crave when you've just graduated I assume :)
[01:11] <Jack1> i mean what and how do i need to do to add this file?
[01:11] <SkrotFFS> Hi. What packages do I need to burn audio cds from mp3 with k3b?
[01:11] <Healot> wine "/mnt/hdb5/CS/CS 1.6.exe" >> try this instead, arso
[01:11] <Healot> !mp3
[01:11] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:11] <ChunLaptop> exceswater there's a standalone flash player that plays flash i forgot what it's called, but it's in linux format magazine
[01:12] <arso> Healot:  k sure
[01:12] <arso> Healot:  yup :D
[01:13] <arso> Healot:  i didnt know we needed a " "
[01:13] <exceswater> i can play flash
[01:13] <ChunLaptop> sensei, not what i would crave, but it seems up there in the CS jobs
[01:13] <exceswater> but i cannot play flash game... some of them
[01:13] <Healot> arso: it is because of za space
[01:13] <exceswater> it seems like it doesn't taje my keystroke
[01:13] <arso> Healot:  wat space?
[01:14] <Healot> space frontier, arso
[01:14] <arso> ok
[01:14] <arso> thnx
[01:14] <ChunLaptop> jack, there's a CUP manual online that'll help you install the def file
[01:15] <ChunLaptop> exceswater, try playing it in the konqueror web browser maybe
[01:15] <Jack1> sensei do you know how i could rip faster ? i just found using paranoia and turning >>>>dma on, (apparently not being right?)
[01:15] <Lynoure> ChunLaptop: If you could get any entry level CS job (assuming you didn't work in the field during your studies), what would you want to do for living?
[01:17] <ChunLaptop> Lynoure, it's hard to tell right now, yea i haven't done any work in the field yet, i like game programming since i just did it last quarter, but i think linux programming and admin jobs might be more stable?
[01:17] <arso> Healot:  i installed the game and everything, cant find it tho
[01:17] <arso> Healot:  wasnt it supposed to get added to kmenu
[01:17] <arso> Healot:  i reboooted too
[01:18] <Healot> arso: it is somewhere in ./wine/C etc
[01:19] <Healot> finisged installing
[01:19] <ChunLaptop> all my programming in school has been in C++ and linux, which i think is an edge compared to most other entry people
[01:19] <arso> Healot:  k i'll check =)
[01:20] <sensei> ChunLaptop: In game development? I doubt it :/
[01:20] <sensei> Maybe in a decade or so when the gaming industry finds the Linux market
[01:20] <ChunLaptop> well the C++ over the ppl from schools that just teach java
[01:21] <Lynoure> ChunLaptop: There in no guarantee of job stability other than to get good at whatever you do. Especially in a country like USa where firing people is easy and fast.
[01:21] <ChunLaptop> PS3's supposed to be running linux
[01:21] <arso> Healot:  so once i find it, wat file should i open?
[01:21] <Healot> yup, when your jobs go to India
[01:22] <Healot> wine <the exe file>, arso
[01:22] <Healot> found the file yet, arso?
[01:23] <arso> Healot:  looking..
[01:24] <Healot> arso: my two cents are "cd ~", "cd .wine"
[01:24] <arso> Healot:  from konsole?
[01:24] <Healot> yes... that would be it
[01:24] <Healot> if you properlu install WINE
[01:24] <arso> ya i did
[01:25] <arso> with someones help
[01:25] <Healot> great
[01:25] <arso> cd.wine
[01:25] <arso> bash: cd.wine: command not found
[01:26] <Healot> space, mine the space
[01:26] <Healot> cd .wine
[01:26] <arso> ohh
[01:26] <arso> ok now wat
[01:26] <Healot> first type "cd ~" and press enter
[01:26] <Healot> ls ?
[01:26] <arso> arso@Arso:~/.wine$
[01:26] <Healot> ok
[01:27] <Healot> type "ls"
[01:27] <ChunLaptop> hmm, i'll try to keep up and get good, i've been working on making a game this summer to put on a fancy php website w/ my school projects, not up yet tho
[01:28] <mpathy> Hi There.. Somebody knows something about the current state of sync'ing mobile phone with Kontact? Under Gnome with Evolution its very easy via MultiSync, but under KDE it seems a bit harder..?
[01:28] <arso> system.reg  userdef.reg  user.reg
[01:28] <Jack1> if i have to do for ubuntu 5.10 to do this (for installing a printer)
[01:28] <Jack1> sudo gnome-cups-manager
[01:28] <ChunLaptop> a really nice command line file explorer is mc (midnight commander) looks and acts exactly like nc (norton commander) from the good ol' dos days
[01:28] <arso> Healot:  system.reg  userdef.reg  user.reg
[01:29] <Jack1> WHAT SHOULD I DO for kubuntu dapper?
[01:29] <arso> Healot:  dosdevices  drive_c  system.reg  userdef.reg  user.reg
[01:29] <Jack1> also gnome-cups-manager?
[01:29] <Healot> arso:  next "cd driver_c"
[01:29] <Healot> arso:  next "cd drive_c" damn
[01:29] <arso> Healot: ?
[01:30] <arso> i am in
[01:30] <arso> ls?
[01:30] <arso> Program Files  windows
[01:31] <Healot> cd "Program Files" >> and next cd to your game installation
[01:32] <arso> ok i am in
[01:32] <arso> with ls,  i get 4 lines full
[01:32] <arso> look for exe?
[01:33] <ChunLaptop> ok i'm going to sleep, 4:30am here -_-
[01:34] <ChunLaptop> goodnight all
[01:34] <Healot> arso what are the directories listed?
[01:37] <ChunHere4asec> last thing    hey arso, you should look at www.linux-gamers.net under the howtos section, tells you how to install CS 1.6
[01:38] <arso> k thnx
[01:38] <ChunHere4asec> and also has a nice script to download cvswine
[01:38] <ChunHere4asec> ok goodnight
[01:41] <ryan> hi
[01:42] <arso> hi
[01:42] <ryan> whats going on in here then ?
[01:43] <arso> people ask for help
[01:43] <arso> others help them
[01:43] <ryan> Is it any good ?
[01:43] <arso> it tends to be more crowded later on, about 3 hours from now +
[01:43] <arso> ya
[01:43] <ryan> cool
[01:43] <arso> i ve been using linux for a week, and they helped me with pretty much everything
[01:43] <arso> and ive had a LOT of problems
[01:43] <ryan> Nice one, how are you finding it ?
[01:43] <arso> lovin it
[01:44] <arso> its just awesome... linux rox :D
[01:44] <ryan> bettter than window$
[01:44] <arso> only drawback i see, is games,
[01:44] <ryan> yea
[01:44] <arso> otherwise, imho i find it better than windows
[01:44] <ryan> but its getting better
[01:44] <[GuS] > ryan,  better in a million of years :P
[01:44] <arso> exactly
[01:44] <Healot> Windows rocks with proprietary games
[01:44] <justanother> hey guys
[01:44] <[GuS] > lol
[01:44] <arso> but thats it
[01:44] <arso> otherwise windows = overloaded virus infested crap
[01:44] <ryan> Ive got Doom3 Quake3 and 4 MOHAA and more running on linux
[01:45] <[GuS] > Healot, you smome something weird :P
[01:45] <Healot> arso: true for new users
[01:45] <arso> Healot:  meaning?
[01:45] <justanother> what's the easiest way to use thunderbird under kubuntu and windows - i searched but didn't found anything really satisfying
[01:45] <arso> ryan:  mohaa? wats that
[01:45] <ryan> Medal of honor
[01:45] <[GuS] > justanother, sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[01:45] <[GuS] > :P
[01:46] <arso> ryan:  oh ok, i am getting CS to work now
[01:46] <[GuS] > more easy than that,.,,
[01:46] <ryan> CS ?
[01:46] <[GuS] > Counter Strike
[01:46] <ryan> ah
[01:46] <ryan> native
[01:46] <[GuS] > works fine under cedega
[01:46] <arso> i dont have a cadega
[01:46] <ryan> I see
[01:46] <arso> i need to buy it right?
[01:46] <[GuS] > yes
[01:46] <[GuS] > i have for dapper :P
[01:47] <ryan> download the cvs cedega its free
[01:47] <[GuS] > ryan, yeah... but is not easy to make ir work the cvs version..
[01:47] <arso> ryan:  how is it different from the other one?
[01:47] <ryan> lol
[01:47] <ryan> true
[01:47] <justanother> [GuS] : i already installed it... but i need a way to share the profile (so i can access my mails under kubuntu and windows)
[01:47] <[GuS] > is simple
[01:47] <[GuS] > you must copy the entire dir profile
[01:47] <[GuS] > and you will have the same thing under any os
[01:48] <arso> hey guys on wine, how do i uninstall stuff
[01:48] <arso> they dont seem to go no matter how much i delete and uninstal
[01:48] <Jack1> i dont get it
[01:48] <Jack1> i can get neither printer nor scanner get installed in dapper
[01:48] <ryan> its a tad buggy
[01:48] <justanother> [GuS] : well, i have the profile on a fat32 partition but it doesn't quite work under kubuntu... it says, it can't save the mail
[01:48] <[GuS] > Jack1, usb or parallel?
[01:49] <Jack1> usb Gus
[01:49] <[GuS] > maybe because of the permission justanother
[01:49] <[GuS] > check out if is under your username those dirs
[01:49] <[GuS] > and if have write permission
[01:49] <justanother> [GuS] : i guess so, but i don't know how i have to set the permissions
[01:49] <[GuS] > click with the righ button on the dir justanother
[01:50] <ryan> has anyone had problems with the nvidia drivers causing hanging on shutdown and boot up ?
[01:50] <[GuS] > and check out the owner permission and the user that owns that dir
[01:50] <Jack1> [snapscan]  Cannot open firmware file /usr/share/sane/snapscan/your-firmwarefile.bin.
[01:50] <Jack1>   <[GuS] >
[01:50] <[GuS] > wich model are the devices Jack1 ?
[01:50] <Jack1> u mena this dir eg <[GuS] ><<<<<<<<<
[01:50] <Jack1> hp laserjet 1020 and epson perfection 2480 photo <[GuS] >
[01:51] <[GuS] > you  have problems with the HP too? weird
[01:51] <Jack1> yes
[01:51] <Jack1> GuS i did that http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125545
[01:52] <[GuS] > ok, let me check something
[01:52] <Jack1> and followed this guide http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/ <[GuS] >
[01:53] <[GuS] > you have configured the printer right in the systemsettings, Printers?
[01:54] <Jack1> <[GuS] > i did that from the guide above first, had the foo2js driver in synaptic uninstalled and added later the device in the sys settings ..then it worked one time, but not again
[01:54] <ryan> arso you there ?
[01:54] <DanielW>                                                                                                  v
[01:54] <DanielW> 
[01:54] <DanielW> 
[01:54] <[GuS] > you are using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[01:54] <DanielW> 
[01:54] <[GuS] > DanielW,  ?
[01:54] <DanielW> 
[01:54] <Jack1> <[GuS] >kde
[01:54] <DanielW> oh :-(
[01:54] <DanielW> sorry
[01:54] <arso> ryan:  yesi am here, sorry, wats up?
[01:55] <ryan> file incoming
[01:55] <arso> ryan:  i use ati btw
[01:55] <DanielW> after a kernel update to 2.6.15-25 i can not use man pc-card wlan  anymore :-(
[01:55] <justanother> [GuS] : right now the owner can read/modify and group, others can view
[01:55] <[GuS] > Jack1, check if you added the printer in systemsettings... wich just that must work
[01:55] <DanielW> how can i back to 2.6.15-23?
[01:55] <[GuS] > good justanother
[01:55] <[GuS] > justanother,  is under you username? (check at the bottom)
[01:56] <justanother> [GuS] : yes
[01:56] <[GuS] > Good
[01:56] <Jack1> <[GuS] > well there is an unknown device and my printer but with a red symbol
[01:56] <ryan> Im trying to send you a file arso
[01:56] <arso> ryan:  oh i am not getting anything
[01:56] <DanielW> can someone help me please?
[01:56] <ryan> ok
[01:56] <[GuS] > Jack ok. if your type in konsole lsub.. you will know where is connected
[01:56] <arso> ryan:  are u on konversation or mirc?
[01:57] <[GuS] > brb
[01:57] <Jack1> <[GuS] >right now my printer is printed cursive..no red symbol
[01:57] <ryan> Konv
[01:57] <arso> me too
[01:57] <arso> i donno really, never transferred files here yet
[01:57] <Jack1> Bus 001 Device 013: ID 03f0:2b17 Hewlett-Packard
[01:57] <Jack1>  <[GuS] >
[01:57] <ryan> maybe my firewall
[01:57] <arso> or mine
[01:57] <arso> wat is the file anyway
[01:58] <ryan> cedega
[01:58] <DanielW> the 2.6.15-23 should be on the kubuntu dvd? can i intall it from there?
[01:59] <ryan> arso do you have Ktorrent
[01:59] <Jack1> Bus 001 Device 014: ID 03f0:2b17 Hewlett-Packard
[01:59] <arso> ryan:  yes, but i use azureus
[01:59] <ryan> just get it off there
[01:59] <arso> ryan:  just link me i'll get it ;)
[01:59] <Jack1> <[GuS] > i tried it without hub now
[02:01] <ryan> http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=cedega
[02:02] <arso> thnx
[02:02] <ryan> np
[02:02] <ryan> gotta go, off to work :(
[02:02] <arso> so hows it working with u?
[02:02] <ryan> fine
[02:02] <arso> oh,
[02:02] <arso> wat difference from the one with $$
[02:03] <ryan> ahem it is the one
[02:03] <arso> oh
[02:03] <arso> haxorzed/
[02:03] <ryan> no not really
[02:03] <ryan> just install the appropriate package and use the command line
[02:03] <arso> http://www.mininova.org/tor/342073           is this one good
[02:04] <arso> ryan:  is there any guide u follow for commands and such
[02:04] <ryan> 2 secs
[02:04] <arso> k
[02:05] <ryan> http://www.mininova.org/tor/313434 use this one
[02:07] <arso> ok download over
[02:07] <arso> now wat?
[02:07] <ryan> bloody hell that was quick
[02:08] <arso> turned out i already downlaoded it before ::P
[02:08] <arso> so torrent just started seeding
[02:08] <ryan> is there a package there suitable for deb
[02:08] <arso> umm i am newbie :P, meaning?
[02:09] <ryan> baring in mind ive only installed this on Mandriva Ive only just started using Kubuntu
[02:09] <arso> oh
[02:09] <arso> we
[02:09] <arso> '
[02:09] <arso> ll give it ashot
[02:09] <Jack1> pls can so help me with the printer<<?
[02:09] <Jack1> i get mad
[02:09] <ryan> http://downloads.transgaming.com/files/cedega_troubleshooting_5.2.html
[02:10] <arso> i extracted, there r 3 folders
[02:10] <arso> etc opt usr
[02:10] <ryan> any .deb packages in there
[02:10] <arso> omg donno
[02:11] <arso> each folder leads to 10 folders
[02:11] <ryan> lol
[02:11] <arso> each one to another 10 and so on
[02:11] <arso> lol
[02:12] <arso> u there?
[02:12] <ryan> I reckon you have to extract the files into the appropriate folders ie. the files in etc go in your system folder /etc
[02:12] <ryan> and so on
[02:13] <arso> um how :P
[02:13] <arso> do uremember how to do it
[02:13] <arso> step by step
[02:13] <Jack1> from kjobviewer the jobs disappear and i cant print..no idea why
[02:13] <ryan> err no, in mandriva yes, but Kubuntu I havent done yet
[02:13] <arso> i see
[02:13] <arso> darn
[02:14] <ryan> I will download the one you have and have a look
[02:14] <arso> thnx a lot :D
[02:15] <arso> i am looking up "cedega on kubuntu"
[02:15] <arso> so wat exactly was that package we downloaded, a 'free' version?
[02:16] <ryan> lol, done that 8 mag connaction is handy
[02:16] <arso> ur at work?
[02:16] <ryan> not yet
[02:16] <arso> ic
[02:17] <arso> great speeds u got
[02:17] <ryan> just got an upgrade
[02:17] <arso> cool
[02:17] <arso> i got a 512kbs connection =(
[02:17] <ryan> good enough thou
[02:18] <arso> max speedds of 62KB/s
[02:18] <arso> so hows it going with the installation
[02:18] <arso> wish i could follow this http://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/2005/11/linux-gaming-part-3-installing-cedega.html
[02:18] <DanielW> after updating the packages kubuntu doesn load my wlan interface modul by itself (and i don't know its name)
[02:18] <ryan> there is an install guide in the package you unzipped
[02:19] <arso> ryan:   i didnt undderstand most of it =(
[02:19] <arso> could u help me out with it please?
[02:19] <arso> wtf, i am listening to jpop
[02:20] <ryan> where have you extracted the files to ?
[02:20] <ryan> folder names pls
[02:21] <arso> ryan: /home/arso/torrents/cedega-5.1.3-OES/cedega-5.1.3-OES
[02:21] <arso> this one has those 3 folders two compressed and the readme
[02:22] <arso> my cursor is acting weird
[02:22] <omeow> Mine is too.
[02:23] <omeow> It blinks when I load a webpage.
[02:23] <omeow> (flickers very fast I mean)
[02:23] <arso> mine is a bit jerky
[02:23] <arso> all of a suddenn
[02:23] <ryan> you copy the files by brining up a terminal , su to root and type cp /home/arso/torrents/cedega-5.1.3-OES/cedega-5.1.3-OES/etc /etc
[02:24] <arso> "su to root" umm how please
[02:24] <ryan> type "su" no quotes
[02:24] <ryan> enter password
[02:25] <arso> su: Authentication failure
[02:25] <arso> Sorry.
[02:25] <arso> i am sure bout pass
[02:25] <ryan> root password
[02:25] <ryan> caps ?
[02:25] <arso> yes
[02:25] <ryan> ah wait
[02:26] <arso> noNOno
[02:26] <ryan> type sudo root
[02:26] <arso> sudo: root: command not found
[02:26] <arso> wtf
[02:27] <arso> u know wat
[02:27] <arso> a lot of stuff is mesed up
[02:27] <arso>  let me reboot
[02:27] <omeow> hahaha
[02:28] <ryan> gotta go to work mate, catch you maybe tomorrow
[02:28] <Jack1> how can i uninstall a printer>? via remove in system settings?
[02:28] <ryan> browse the net for help its all there, and here
[02:30] <arso> back
[02:30] <arso> ryan?
[02:31] <omeow> [14:28]  <ryan> gotta go to work mate, catch you maybe tomorrow
[02:31] <omeow> [14:29]  <ryan> browse the net for help its all there, and here
[02:31] <arso> darn
[02:31] <arso> omeow:  thnx tho, appreciate it
[02:32] <Howitzer> how do i bind certain filetypes in firefox with an application permanently?
[02:32] <arso> wtf, somethings up with my root password
[02:32] <omeow> arso: just type sudo su and then your own password.
[02:32] <Howitzer> like .mpg with kaffeine
[02:32] <arso> omeow:  thats the thing, its not working
[02:33] <Howitzer> it always forgets it
[02:33] <Hobbsee> !sudo
[02:33] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:33] <Hobbsee> omeow: please use sudo -i or sudo -s for that, if you must keep a root shell open
[02:33] <arso> wat other places can i type my root password
[02:33] <omeow> Don't think you can on Linux, Howitzer. I've never done it.
[02:33] <Hobbsee> sudo su is not supported in kubuntu
[02:33] <omeow> You get a menu for that in Opera though. ;)
[02:33] <omeow> Hobbsee: works fine for me.
[02:33] <arso> ok sudo -i      worked
[02:34] <Healot> yay
[02:34] <Howitzer> omeow, in Ubuntu it worked i think
[02:34] <Healot> deleted ubuntu partition, and extend the NTFS volume...
[02:34] <Healot> i;ve been stealing space from the office hard disk
[02:34] <arso> lol
[02:35] <arso> umm guys my mouse is so jerky
[02:35] <arso> stops  then moves again and stuff
[02:35] <arso> wat can it be
[02:35] <arso> its not wireless so cant be battery issue
[02:36] <arso> LOL, it just started working fine
[02:36] <Healot> mouse movement can be laggy sometimes
[02:38] <arso> i guess
[02:39] <omeow> Especially in adept.
[02:40] <omeow> Because it autofilters on startup even when you haven't typed anything.
[02:40] <omeow> I wishhhhhhh it was possible to disable the autofiltering and that it would just give me a button to click that says "search".
[02:40] <arso> haha
[02:40] <arso> oh well
[02:41] <arso> wats the pastebin link please
[02:41] <arso> !paste
[02:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:43] <Pupeno> Hello.
[02:44] <Pupeno> Why are info sections of basic things that I have installed, just as gprof, missing ? I have the man page but the info is missing ? Maybe there's some package containing them ? I can't find it.
[02:45] <arso> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17334    could someone help me out with this please
[02:45] <arso> i did everything till step 5
[02:45] <yvonne> !wastebin
[02:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about wastebin
[02:46] <yvonne> !trash
[02:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about trash
[02:46] <arso> !love
[02:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about love
[02:46] <arso> lol
[02:46] <yvonne> does anyone know how to add a trash can to the desktop
[02:46] <Healot> the trash icon?
[02:46] <yvonne> well
[02:46] <yvonne> yeh
[02:47] <gnomefreak> yvonne: help.ubuntu.com has a great guide ont hat
[02:47] <Healot> drag the trash icon to the desktop
[02:47] <yvonne> cheers
[02:47] <arso> [16:45]  <arso> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17334    could someone help me out with this please
[02:47] <arso> [16:45]  <arso> i did everything till step 5
[02:47] <yvonne> Guardalavacadoesnt work healot
[02:47] <yvonne> doesnt work healot
[02:48] <Healot> worked for me... can't remember how i did that
[02:48] <arso> Healot:  could u help me out please
[02:52] <yvonne> whats xubuntu ?
[02:53] <VHockey86_work> uses xfce instead of KDE
[03:00] <Philip5> arso: if you have cedega why not install the .deb package?
[03:01] <omeow> Seems quite obvious to me.
[03:01] <Philip5> omeow: :)
[03:02] <omeow> He warezed it and doesn't have access to the .deb
[03:03] <arso> Philip5:  where can i get that?
[03:03] <arso> :p
[03:03] <Philip5> hehe
[03:04] <Philip5> arso: www.transgaming.com :)
[03:04] <arso> needs $$ eh
[03:04] <Philip5> but that's not the answer you wanted
[03:04] <arso> yup ;)
[03:04] <arso> OPEN SOURCE God damn it :P
[03:04] <Philip5> but if you done that then you should have the cedega file in your path
[03:04] <arso> done wat?
[03:04] <omeow> wow $5 is so expensive.
[03:04] <Philip5> done those steps
[03:05] <arso> its only 5?
[03:05] <arso> Philip5:  i am having trouble following them
[03:05] <Philip5> arso: what's hard about them?
[03:05] <Philip5> they tell you exactly what to do
[03:06] <arso> Philip5: step 6: run cadega as normal users
[03:06] <arso> run it from where?!!? i cant find it
[03:06] <arso> newbit :(
[03:06] <Philip5> run it from konsole
[03:06] <Philip5> i.e
[03:06] <arso> wat command exactly please
[03:07] <Philip5> the commands are on that text
[03:07] <larson9999> i didn't know there was xubuntu.  how many dapper *ubuntus are there?
[03:07] <Philip5> larson9999: 3
[03:07] <larson9999> Philip5: i know of 4
[03:07] <Philip5> oh
[03:09] <Philip5> arso: if you have that much trouble with installing that then you will have plenty of trouble with cedega as most games need extra tweaking
[03:09] <arso>  argh, why is this such a pain in the ass
[03:09] <larson9999> to try out xfce, i just installed it.
[03:09] <Philip5> arso: beats me
[03:10] <Philip5> larson9999: which 4? i know of ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu. which one have i missed?
[03:11] <BrigadierFrog> edubuntu
[03:11] <BrigadierFrog> ?
[03:12] <larson9999> edubuntu
[03:12] <arso> :'(
[03:12] <larson9999> what's arso trying to do?
[03:13] <Howitzer> there's also nubuntu
[03:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> its not offical
[03:13] <jay> New to Kubuntu here... nvidia driver causes hard lockup of desktop for me. :(
[03:13] <Howitzer> made for networking and comes with Fluxbox
[03:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> theres lots of unofficals, only 4 officals
[03:13] <arso> larson9999:  to run cedega
[03:13] <Howitzer> eh
[03:13] <arso> brb reboot router
[03:14] <Howitzer> afaik there aren't a lot of unofficials
[03:14] <larson9999> arso: oh, i just run wine since it runs everything i've wanted to so far
[03:15] <Howitzer> omfg
[03:15] <Howitzer> i LOVE swiftfox
[03:15] <Howitzer> it friggin flies
[03:16] <larson9999> at first i thought it was silly having a different distro just for a different wm.  but seeing how many things that don't work right in mandriva+kde that work just find in kubuntu, maybe it's not such a bad idea
[03:17] <VHockey86_work> larson9999: ya, it helps. Kubuntu runs a heck of alot better than just apt-getting KDE on ubuntu as well.
[03:17] <VHockey86_work> Or at least it seems to for me
[03:18] <larson9999> VHockey86_work: for 7 years i just thought kde had bugs it didn't want to fix !
[03:18] <arso> i am back
[03:19] <arso> so any cedega users
[03:20] <VHockey86_work> hmm, isnt KDE the default WM for mandriva?
[03:20] <VHockey86_work> I havent used it since mandrake 9.3 though
[03:20] <Philip5> VHockey86_work: it is
[03:21] <Jack1> how could i uninstall my printerdrivers ?
[03:21] <VHockey86_work> only thing that really bugs me about KDE is that some of the graphical stuff just doenst quite work right. Like the little bouncing mouse cursors will stay there for 30 seconds even though your application was closed or failed to start.
[03:21] <larson9999> VHockey86_work: in the installation process, you select which WMs you want
[03:22] <larson9999> VHockey86_work: the 1st thing i do when setting up kde is disable that stupid stuff.
[03:22] <sensation> anyone here to solve a ubuntu problem in german?
[03:22] <VHockey86_work> I could never seem to find the option for that
[03:22] <Eamon> !de
[03:22] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:22] <cox377> is there a short cut key for terminal?
[03:22] <VHockey86_work> looked under "look n feel" and mouse cursors and stuff
[03:22] <Jack1> was brauchstdu sensation?
[03:22] <larson9999> VH it's called 'launch feedback'
[03:23] <larson9999> VHockey86_work:  it's called 'launch feedback'
[03:23] <sensation> mein notebook gibt sound ber die internen boxen wieder, aber nicht ber den line-out
[03:23] <arso> guys
[03:23] <Eamon> How is kubuntu different to MEPIS? (I'm using MEPIS now btw)
[03:23] <arso> how do i install
[03:23] <VHockey86_work> larson9999: thx
[03:23] <arso> something tha i installed with wine
[03:23] <emonkey> sensation, mach ein /j #ubuntu-de
[03:23] <Jack1> sensation sry keine ahnung ....hatt ich bisher nicht das proble
[03:23] <emonkey> sensation, dann kommst du in den deutschen Kanal
[03:23] <sensation> kk
[03:23] <cox377> eamon, i used mepis before.. and i thought i liked it more.. but then i tried kubuntu and never looked back
[03:23] <Eamon> arso: Same as in windoze, just keep clicking 'next'
[03:24] <emonkey> sensation, oder /j #kubuntu-de dann kommst du in den deutsche kubuntu Kanal
[03:24] <Jack1>  /j #kubuntu-d
[03:24] <Eamon> cox377: Is kubuntu more stable? MEPIS crashes like windoze ME for me
[03:24] <arso> Eamon:  i do, but it stays there
[03:24] <cox377> never had one crash
[03:24] <arso> Eamon:  even tried deleting all the files in the wine directory
[03:24] <cox377> does anyone know how to add trash can to desktop under kubuntu?
[03:25] <larson9999> i've had a few lockups on ubuntu
[03:25] <BKaj> yeah cox377, that panel situated trashcan bugs me as well
[03:26] <cox377> is there no way of getting around it
[03:26] <Eamon> cox377: How is kubuntu better? does it have that cool feature where you can just 'drag+drop' mp3s off audio cds and it converts them on-the-fly?
[03:26] <cox377> i checked out the help guide for ubuntu but the same guide does not work under kubuntu
[03:26] <cox377> eamon, actually.. to tell you the truth i havent played around that much with the multimedia side of things
[03:27] <cox377> but i will say that i would say mepis is better for multimedia
[03:27] <cox377> maybe.. maybe i just dont know enough about it.. but mepis's multimedia was very much plug and play
[03:27] <Philip5> cox377: creat a Link to location and link it to trash:/
[03:27] <cox377> i tried to link it to trash
[03:27] <cox377> "/ (trash)" but it didnt work
[03:28] <BKaj> I heard PCLINUX was best for multimedia, but I couldn't install it on my AMD64 pc
[03:28] <Eamon> cox377, I think I'm gonna install kubuntu anyway - what makes kubuntu a better distro in your opinion? You said you'd never look back - why?
[03:28] <Philip5> cox377: works for me
[03:28] <Eamon> BKaj: I have an AMD64 pc too - I just install 32bit shit on it
[03:29] <cox377> philip5: was the location the same as what i just stated
[03:29] <Philip5> cox377: trash:/
[03:29] <cox377> eamon: not entirely sure, useablity and the alike. Just feels better... little things here and there
[03:29] <cox377> philip5: cheers shall give it a go
[03:30] <BKaj> yeah Eamon, I dumped Dapper 64 for the 32 bit version and stiff like automatix etc runs much easier
[03:30] <cox377> philip5: brilliant, it worked. Do u know how to add things like remote places / home folder etc
[03:34] <BKaj> can the gear icon for trash link be changed ?
[03:35] <sensation> does anyone know how to solve this problem runnin ubuntu: sound plays back over the internal speakers, but doesn't gives a playback while I will running over line-out to my hifi
[03:35] <cox377> mine auto changed
[03:35] <arso> could someone help me uninstall wine and install it again please?
[03:36] <cox377> open the adept manager
[03:36] <arso> oh from there
[03:36] <arso> when i installed i t, we did some commands apt get thing
[03:38] <cox377> yeh
[03:40] <arso> wtf i removed wine from adept
[03:40] <arso> but its still there i kmenu
[03:40] <arso> with the programs that i tried to uninstall 20 times
[03:41] <Eamon> What version of amarok comes with kubuntu 6.06?
[03:41] <larson9999> one thing that is worse for me in ubuntu is quicktime movs.  they are all jumpy for me.  wmv files are fine
[03:42] <BKaj> hmm, what link did ya use for the Trash? ...application ?
[03:43] <Philip5> BKaj: not link to app... Link to location
[03:44] <Philip5> BKaj: and then trash:/
[03:44] <Hobbsee> Eamon: 1.3.9, there are 1.4.1 packages available on kubuntu.org
[03:44] <ali> how can set fn keys  sound inc or dec _
[03:44] <ali> ?
[03:44] <BKaj> ahh cool
[03:45] <ali> from gnome was work but kubunutu is not use fn keys for sound
[03:45] <BKaj> done
[03:45] <ali> how can I do?
[03:45] <Jack1> can so help?
[03:45] <ali> yes I want help
[03:46] <Jack1> the klaptop battery icon disappears from kicker though it is configured to be shown..
[03:46] <Jack1> it is displayed for a while then it goes away
[03:46] <Hobbsee> Jack1: did you happen to run suspend or hibernate on it?
[03:46] <Philip5> BKaj: did it work?
[03:47] <ali> not ist not worked
[03:47] <Jack1> Hobbsee not deliberately..maybe it did i saw it swithching black to another mode..maybe that was it
[03:47] <BKaj> yes Philip5 , it did , thx :)
[03:47] <Jack1> Hobbsee is this connected?
[03:47] <Philip5> BKaj: good :)   and np
[03:48] <Hobbsee> Jack1: could well have been.  klaptopdaemon is rather a pile of rubbish, and kpowersave works way better.
[03:48] <Jack1> Hobbsee shall i get the latter via synaptic?
[03:49] <carl> Hi
[03:49] <Hobbsee> Jack1: yep
[03:49] <carl> I installed libxine-extracodecs, and I have no sound in amarok now, someone can help me with this?
[03:50] <BKaj> now if i could just get swiftfox to launch as my default browser instead of Firefox , that would be VG too :)...I tried the commands suggested on the kubuntu help site for listing browser choices in the Konsole and making the choice , but Swiftfox wasn't listed even tho it's in the K-Menu .
[03:52] <Hobbsee> BKaj: isnt that set in system settings, kde components?
[03:52] <Hobbsee> under default browser?
[03:53] <dj_baggio> !eagle-usb
[03:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about eagle-usb
[03:53] <Jack1> Hobbsee Cannot open firmware file /etc/sane.d/esfw41.BIN
[03:53] <Hobbsee> Jack1: um, okay?
[03:53] <Jack1> Hobbsee i already tried with chmod to change the rights but it keeps telling me that
[03:53] <BKaj> It is Hobbsee, but that doesn't seem to work for some reason , that was the first action I tried
[03:54] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[03:54] <Jack1> Hobbsee that is the firmware for my scanner for xsane
[03:54] <Hobbsee> ah
 owner is still root and the locked symbol s on it
[03:56] <Hobbsee> Jack1: are you running the commands as sudo?
[03:56] <Hobbsee> with sudo?
[03:57] <Jack1> Hobbsee sudo chown johannes johannes /etc/sane.d/esfw41.bin
[03:57] <Jack1> Hobbsee chown: cannot access `johannes': No such file or directory
[03:57] <Jack1> ???
[03:57] <Hobbsee> Jack1: not johannes johannes - johannes.johannes
[03:58] <Jack1> Hobbsee thx
[04:01] <admin_> need help, installed kubuntu yesterday, anyone who's got a minute?
[04:01] <Jack1> Hobbsee regaining ownership works though xsane now says no devices available..probl need get the backends
[04:02] <Hobbsee> Jack1: that's likely, yeah
[04:02] <Hobbsee> admin_: just ask :)
[04:02] <admin_> how do i install packages that i downloaded?
[04:02] <Hobbsee> !apt-get
[04:02] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto - also see !synaptic (gnome) or !adept (kde)
[04:02] <Hobbsee> !adept
[04:02] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:03] <Hobbsee> admin_: you probably want to check out those couple of links on how it all works - they've got pictures too, if i remember correctly, which is kinda useful
[04:03] <admin_> btw...i havent slept the whole night....LUV THE LINUX :P
[04:03] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:03] <admin_> but u'll probably see more of me in this chat...hihi
[04:04] <Philip5> admin_: how should we take that? be scared? ;)
[04:05] <Howitzer> i have this mini mini mini guide for ktorrent
[04:05] <admin_> hope not ;)
[04:06] <Howitzer> i discovered how to add a search engine called torrentsearch.us to the search function in ktorrent
[04:06] <Howitzer> (the url on the website is masked all the time with www.torrentsearch.us)
[04:06] <Howitzer> should i do anything with this?
[04:07] <Howitzer> or is it too irrelevant to devote attention to?
[04:07] <zorglu1> damn i was all happy a min ago. i discovered wing++ and was under the impression it was allowing to code a window apps from linux... but no, it allow to compile a window apps on linux
[04:07] <zorglu1> aka it doesnt produce window code
[04:07] <admin_> hot-key for show desktop or minimize all?
[04:08] <Howitzer> zorglu1, you can
[04:08] <Howitzer> try DEV-CPP, linux interface guide and that thingy
[04:08] <Howitzer> ehh
[04:09] <hastesaver_> admin_, try Ctrl-Alt-D ? Win-D might also work, but usually doesn't (unless you set it up). In any case, it's in Control Centre --> Keyboard Shortcuts
[04:09] <Howitzer> to run a basic linux under windows
[04:09] <zorglu1> Howitzer:  oh? googleing
[04:09] <Howitzer> ehm
[04:09] <Howitzer> aargh
[04:09] <Howitzer> i forgot the ame
[04:09] <Howitzer> it's something with a 'u'
[04:09] <MDCore> having trouble resizing my xp ntfs partition from the live CD. QTParted tells me " opening /dev/hda1 as NTFS failed: Operation not supported". What do I do to resize this partition? I need to dual-boot this machine :P
[04:10] <Howitzer> CYGWIN
[04:10] <Howitzer> that's it
[04:10] <BKaj> Is the jabber client that I installed with synaptic the one inside Kopete or is it a stand alone ? If it;s stand alone , why won't it launch ?
[04:10] <Howitzer> no 'u' in it though -_-
[04:10] <Jack1> Hobbsee though both files are not owned by root it keeps telling me
[04:10] <Jack1> [snapscan]  Cannot open firmware file /etc/sane.d/esfw41.BIN.
[04:10] <Jack1> [snapscan]  Edit the firmware file entry in snapscan.conf.
[04:13] <mpt> Am I imagining things, or does Konqueror really not have a menu item for creating a new folder?
[04:13] <mpt> (not a new bookmark folder, a new real folder)
[04:14] <Philip5> mpt: edit/create new/folder
[04:14] <Philip5> mpt: or right-click in an empty space where you want it and select create new
[04:14] <mpt> Philip5, the Edit menu contains Copy, Paste Clipboard Contents, Delete, Copy Files..., Move Files..., Properties, and Selection
[04:14] <mpt> there's no "Create New"
[04:14] <Philip5> mpt: in mine there is
[04:15] <mpt> that's odd
[04:15] <Philip5> mpt: if that's the case, yes
[04:16] <mpt> I'll report a bug :-)
[04:17] <MDCore> any thoughts anyone on resizing for dualboot before installing?
[04:17] <mpt> MDCore, I think it would probably be a good idea
[04:18] <MDCore> :)
[04:18] <mpt> :-P
[04:18] <MDCore> But qtparted gives me an error when I try to do that :P
[04:18] <mpt> ("So, Mr Gandhi, what do you think of Western civilization?")
[04:19] <BKaj> mpt, right click on the desktop?
[04:20] <mpt> BKaj, yes, but that's cheating, it's Nautilus rather than Konqueror doing that :-)
[04:20] <BKaj> just like windoze
[04:20] <BKaj> no matter it werks , right ?
[04:20] <mpt> and I don't necessarily want the folder on the desktop (yes, yes, I know I could move it afterward)
[04:22] <sensei> MDCore: "An error". And todays best description and help to be helped award goes tooooo...
[04:23] <mpt> thanks for your answers Philip5, I reported bug 52099
[04:25] <mpt> sensei, http://www.google.com/search?q=%22died+for+some+reason%22+%22maybe+it+has+been+killed%22
[04:27] <sensei> haha
[04:27] <sensei> 
[04:27] <sensei> ops
[04:32] <Grommet> is there a kubuntu repository with newer software like kde 3.5.3 and kvirc 3? I installed from the live dapper/drake x86_64 cd.
[04:33] <Hobbsee> Grommet: kvirc 3?  that exists?  cool!
[04:33] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.3
[04:33] <ubotu> The latest version of KDE is 3.5.3, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php
[04:34] <Grommet> yeah, I am on 3.2 right now :)
[04:36] <gnomefreak> 3.2.0-5ubuntu1 is in universe the kde 3.5.3 nor the amarok repos has a newer version
[04:36] <gnomefreak> ^^^ kvirc
[04:37] <Hobbsee> ah, kvirc should already be in repos
[04:37] <Hobbsee> either under kvirc or kvirc2, i cant really tell.
[04:37] <gnomefreak> its kvirc but i will try the other
[04:38] <gnomefreak> kvirc2 = 1.3-3ubuntu1
[04:39] <gnomefreak> im assuming they are not even close to the same?
[04:39] <Grommet> how do I add the universe repository?
[04:40] <Grommet> it seems to be what I want
[04:40] <gnomefreak> !repos
[04:40] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:40] <gnomefreak> Grommet: follow that guide ;)
[04:40] <VHockey86_work> edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:40] <Grommet> thanks
[04:40] <VHockey86_work> or that :)
[04:40] <Grommet> that would work right now since I can access ubuntu dir but an currently in suse
[04:41] <gnomefreak> Grommet: i would do it on ubuntu (not sure how that wouold work on suse)
[04:42] <Grommet> well if I edit that file it will work and apt will have the repo when I boot to ubuntu :)
[04:44] <gnomefreak> Grommet: you would have to run sudo apt-get update before ubuntu will have that repo
[04:44] <Cntryboy> Does java come with kubuntu and konqueror, or will I need to download it?
[04:45] <Grommet> ya
[04:45] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: need to install it from multiverse
[04:45] <Grommet> but I just mean it would have it available
[04:45] <Grommet> not have all of the software installed, I'd be silly to think that :)
[04:45] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak: I already have the java app I downloaded for ubuntu on a disc I think
[04:45] <gnomefreak> Grommet: yes but copuldnt get packages from it
[04:46] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: i would hope not
[04:46] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: i have never seen java on disk
[04:46] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak: I meant where I burned it
[04:46] <pupeno-> Can anybody help me troobleshoot my X configuration. It is really really slow (I can see text forming and scrolling like in the days of BBS at 2400 bps). The config is on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17343. This is an ATI card, built in on a Thinkpad T60 (not sure of the exact model).
[04:46] <Cntryboy> but I can't find it
[04:46] <Cntryboy> sudo apt-get install java?
[04:46] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: sudo apt-get install sun-java-jre  from multiverse repo
[04:47] <Cntryboy> ok
[04:47] <arso> wine "/mnt/hdb5/CS/CS 1.6.exe"
[04:47] <arso> Could not run the specified command
[04:47] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak: do you know how to get nvclock working with the gui?
[04:47] <Cntryboy> nvclock_gtk
[04:47] <Cntryboy> or something but can't remember
[04:47] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: nope
[04:48] <gnomefreak> brb drink
[04:49] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak: I guess its not in my repos because I got E: blah blah blah
[04:49] <Cntryboy> for java that is
[04:50] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: because you dont have multiverse repo enabled
[04:50] <Cntryboy> its okay its 16mb
[04:50] <Cntryboy> take all day with dialup
[04:50] <Cntryboy> multiverse repo should be enabled though, how can I check it
[04:50] <Cntryboy> i forgot source.list is
[04:50] <Cntryboy> etc/apt
[04:50] <Cntryboy> i think
[04:51] <Cntryboy> which line am I looking for in sources.list to see if mul. repo is enabled
[04:51] <slow-motion> hallo
[04:52] <arso> any interesting progrram i should get , iam bored
[04:52] <sensei> frozen-bubble
[04:52] <sensei> Can easily steal an hour or two from you and your boss
[04:52] <gnomefreak> its /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:52] <arso> sensei:  lol, k
[04:53] <arso> wat is it exactly?
[04:53] <RadiantFire> frozen-bubble?
[04:53] <arso> ya
[04:53] <arso> game?
[04:53] <RadiantFire> yeah
[04:53] <RadiantFire> omg is addictive
[04:53] <arso> lol
[04:53] <arso> i'll get it now
[04:53] <RadiantFire> let it never be said there are on cool games for linux
[04:54] <arso> haha cool
[04:54] <arso> any other cool games?
[04:54] <RadiantFire> mmm...
[04:54] <RadiantFire> let me think
[04:54] <RadiantFire> or rather search...
[04:54] <Cntryboy> frozen-bubble? is that kinda like bounce out
[04:54] <RadiantFire> lil bit
[04:54] <RadiantFire> i was a bad kid once
[04:54] <RadiantFire> I brought my laptop to class once and played frozen-bubble when professor was being boring
[04:55] <arso> haha
[04:55] <arso> sounds fun
[04:55] <RadiantFire> there is a kinda cool rts called boson
[04:55] <arso> rts?
[04:55] <RadiantFire> but its not very enjoyable
[04:55] <RadiantFire> real time strategy
[04:55] <RadiantFire> it makes me think of red alert when I play it
[04:55] <RadiantFire> but it don't like it much
[04:55] <arso> not enjoyable? wats the point
[04:55] <arso> :P
[04:56] <uuuubsd> what's frozen bubble
[04:56] <arso> game
[04:56] <uuuubsd> the only good game is age of empire2conq
[04:57] <RadiantFire> speaking of rts
[04:57] <arso> wats "libc6-dev 2.3.6-0ubuntu20"
[04:57] <sensei> You don't know what frozen bubble is, but you're sure there' only one good game?
[04:57] <RadiantFire> starcraft might work pseudo-natively on linux now :-)
[04:58] <CyberMad> how to check open ports of an IP Address?
[04:58] <uuuubsd> sorry i don't play brain fart game, those games without thinking is boring
[04:58] <Cntryboy> go to a port checker site lol
[04:58] <uuuubsd> such as frozen bub
[04:58] <arso> they should make a gaming distribution of linux that auto emulates anything or something
[04:58] <pupeno-> CyberMad: nmap ip
[04:59] <sensei> If you play frozen-bubble without thinking, I understand that you find it boring
[04:59] <CyberMad> thanks
[04:59] <RadiantFire> i remember i said I would assist a project a whlie back that was gonna try and do a fully 3-d turn-based strategy game for linux, but that one died...
[04:59] <arso> lol
[05:00] <RadiantFire> some genius dude wrote a whole bunch of code for an AI engine
[05:00] <RadiantFire> and then the whole project just stopped
[05:00] <RadiantFire> oh well
[05:00] <Cntryboy> radiantfire: I wish a game sorta like warzone2100 would come out for linux
[05:00] <Cntryboy> good option menu and good game play and a good research tech tree
[05:01] <RadiantFire> seriously though
[05:01] <arso> lol too bad
[05:01] <RadiantFire> frozen bubble will keep me entertained on my next plane trip
[05:01] <arso> thats nice
[05:01] <arso> how about a movie lol
[05:01] <RadiantFire> cuz my laptop is sweet and has 6 hr battery life
[05:02] <RadiantFire> I'm gonna watch the same movie 3 times? :-)
[05:02] <RadiantFire> anyway, I have to go do stuff before work
[05:02] <RadiantFire> I might commit suicide as well, cuz I hate my job
[05:02] <arso> loooool
[05:03] <arso> wat do u do?
[05:03] <arso> u can watch 3  movies ;)
[05:03] <RadiantFire> i am a cashier at CompUSA
[05:03] <RadiantFire> today I work from 1:30 - 9:00
[05:03] <arso> i se
[05:03] <arso> that sux
[05:03] <Kevin_Jim> I have a problem
[05:03] <RadiantFire> so I'm gonna go to the gym now
[05:03] <RadiantFire> whats your problem Kevin_Jim?
[05:03] <arso> cool,energize
[05:03] <Kevin_Jim> i can open the *.deb files !
[05:04] <RadiantFire> perhaps when I get back I will do some hacknig
[05:04] <sensei> Get a pryer
[05:04] <CyberMad> does anyone know web based nmap? because i haven't install nmap in my linux..
[05:04] <RadiantFire> Kevin_Jim: is that a problem?
[05:04] <RadiantFire> Kevin_Jim: you can open them in Ark sometimes
[05:04] <RadiantFire> Kevin_Jim: its not big deal
[05:04] <Kevin_Jim> it say's Error ark - The utility is not in your PATH.
[05:05] <cristian27> come si configura xgl con kubuntu?
[05:05] <RadiantFire> thats odd
[05:05] <RadiantFire> it is installed by default
[05:05] <RadiantFire> its probably just a glitch, but you don't need to open .deb files anyway
[05:05] <RadiantFire> you can use install from the actions menu and that will work fine
[05:05] <sensei> echo $PATH in a shell
[05:05] <sensei> Then slocate ark |grep bin
[05:05] <ihope> So my user name is ubuntu. That means my desktop is /home/ubuntu/Desktop, right?
[05:05] <sensei> See if the paths matches
[05:06] <sensei> If not, set it
[05:06] <Kevin_Jim> RadianFire: do what
[05:06] <RadiantFire> install, uninstall, w/e
[05:06] <RadiantFire> you shouldn't be opening debs in ark anyway
[05:06] <arso> sensei:  iam trying "wine /mnt/hdb5/CS/CS 1.6.exe" but nothing is opening
[05:07] <sensei> How weird.. could it be that wine doesn't do direcx ?
[05:07] <sensei> Nor ogl
[05:07] <insanekane> Kevin_Jim: sudo dpkg -i <the deb file>
[05:07] <sensei> at least afaik
[05:07] <arso> sensei:  u tell me , i  donno any of this stuff
[05:07] <sensei> arso: You want cedega I think
[05:07] <sensei> Or windows.. w/e
[05:07] <w1z4rd> sorry to annoy the people here:  im trying to setup a remote desktop connection script to connect to servers i have to admin... and i want to create scripts to make it easier... how do i stipulate a username and password in the command line rd? I have tried rd -u myadminaccount -p mypassword myserver.co.za , and it doesnt seem to work
[05:08] <arso> sensei:  cedega costs 5$ a month, i don  wanna pay that
[05:08] <w1z4rd> its worth it
[05:08] <sensei> Yeah, not everyone is into piracy *cough*
[05:08] <arso> :P
[05:08] <arso> wonder if those who r found a way
[05:09] <sensei> Most likely
[05:09] <w1z4rd> common, $5 for been able to play most of the games you want is worth it, and when you give them $5 its $5 more to development for the next lot of games
[05:09] <ihope> So it seems that my desktop isn't reflecting changes in /home/ubuntu/Desktop.
[05:09] <sensei> cedega are a**holes through and through
[05:09] <sensei> I'd gladly pirate their whole office.. with cannons
[05:10] <Jack1> sensei do u know how i could rip cds faster?
[05:10] <CyberMad> w1z4rd better try VNC than remote desktop :)
[05:10] <insanekane> whats cedega ? something like crossover ?
[05:10] <sensei> Jack1: Get a faster cd reader
[05:10] <w1z4rd> CyberMad: i dont really have a choice, there are about 40 servers and about 5 admins
[05:10] <w1z4rd> im not allowed to install vnc :(
[05:12] <w1z4rd> no worries, solved the problem
[05:12] <arso> i hate cedega too
[05:12] <arso> against the whole spirit of linux
[05:13] <w1z4rd> arso: open source is allowed to charge, so whats the basis of your argument?
[05:13] <sensei> w1z4rd: The fact that they stole the whole fscking wine thing and has never given shite back, and charge money for what's largely someone elses job
[05:14] <sensei> Or "stole".. they used
[05:14] <w1z4rd> sensei: i can get battlefield 2 running on cedega i can even play multi player.. just not on a ranked server thanks to punkbuster
[05:14] <w1z4rd> so they took something, and perfected it for gaming
[05:14] <sensei> I'm fully aware of cedegas capabilityes
[05:14] <w1z4rd> is that not the purpose for open source?
[05:14] <arso> i agree with sensei
[05:15] <w1z4rd> so basicaly, you cant make  aprofit from open source?
[05:15] <arso> take someones work make it better but not benefit from it
[05:15] <w1z4rd> is that the argument?
[05:15] <sensei> YEs
[05:15] <arso> if its ur work ,make as much profit as u want
[05:15] <sensei> I don't even mind them charging for it.. they could just share their technology with wine
[05:16] <sensei> Just as wine shared theirs with them
[05:16] <insanekane> maybe, take someones work, improve it, share the profits and the code
[05:16] <w1z4rd> arso: tell you what, give me a free application i can game on, or write it, ill use it, until such time as you can, ill pay for software that can
[05:16] <w1z4rd> just the same as i use crossover for dreamweaver and adobe photoshop
[05:16] <w1z4rd> i dont mind paying for software, even open source software
[05:16] <insanekane> crossover pays for wine devels
[05:17] <arso> *looks up crossover*
[05:17] <w1z4rd> insanekane: cool, then that helps my karma points
[05:17] <insanekane> w1z4rd: maybe using cedega doesnt
[05:18] <w1z4rd> i think cedega should definitly be helping out wine then, if they dont... thats bad... but still, due to LACK of CHOICE I use them, and will continue to do so until there is an alternative. :/
[05:18] <insanekane> w1z4rd: you have a choice ... tell them to give improvements back
[05:18] <insanekane> w1z4rd: and/or write an alternative like cedega
[05:19] <w1z4rd> insanekane: ok, ill do that, and then? insanekane, im not a coder so thats impossible for me
[05:19] <w1z4rd> which brings me back to "lack of choice"
[05:19] <w1z4rd> i wrote it in capitials incase you missed it the first time
[05:19] <v3ctor> get the free (not so fresh) version of cedega
[05:20] <w1z4rd> i dont mind paying $5 for a product, i just want to game :/
[05:20] <sensei> I suppose this breaks some kind of channel charter.. But IF I were to want to play games on a computer running Linux, I'd pirate cedega and donate $5 to wine every month
[05:20] <sensei> In theory.. 'cause I'd never pirate ;)
[05:21] <arso> sensei:  i liked that lol
[05:21] <insanekane> w1z4rd: then, why don't you use windows ?
[05:21] <w1z4rd> sensei: lol, i have a purchased version if you wanna hack the code... for educational reasons only of coursE:>
[05:21] <w1z4rd> insanekane: because, i dont have to, dont want to, and i luff my kde...
[05:21] <sensei> Already got it, thanks... for educational reasons
[05:22] <Jack1> sensei i have on my notebook eg keys for silentmode..how ti activate that in kubuntu?
[05:22] <insanekane> w1z4rd: then you are seriously screwed up.
[05:22] <arso> i want to learn too :D ;p;
[05:22] <w1z4rd> sensei: if you need any help there... for educational reasons... im there hey... :P
[05:22] <sensei> Jack1: Check out khotkeys
[05:22] <sensei> or ACME
[05:22] <w1z4rd> insanekane: thanks for judging me... ill be kinder to you and not return the favour
[05:22] <arso> yo EDUCATE ME! lol
[05:22] <sensei> w1z4rd: Thanks :) Honestly I really don't know why I have it.. I never even play games o.O
[05:23] <insanekane> w1z4rd: you are free to do so. everyone judges everyone else ... or not.
[05:23] <w1z4rd> sensei: yeah, lots of nix okes dont game :/
[05:25] <w1z4rd> insanekane: ure welcome to judge, i couldnt be bothered :/ i just wanna be able to game on linux.. .the same way i paid for battlefield2 the game, is the same way ill support any software that lets me play it online :/
[05:25] <insanekane> w1z4rd: ah yes, the linear thinker
[05:26] <w1z4rd> im definitly not linear insanekane, wish i could think like that sometimes :/
[05:26] <arso> sensei:  can u help me out with that cedega key?
[05:26] <insanekane> w1z4rd: it sure as hell looks like you are
[05:27] <lucas_> hi. i have connected my motorola l6 cel phone to a usb port, but it is not recognized. + the drivers are for windows >-( how can i solve this? (i dont wanna run windows).
[05:27] <insanekane> i mean, why wouldn't you pay $5 to wine devels to make cedega ?
[05:27] <arso> wow ur still on it
[05:28] <vaka> how can i reload the fonts in ~/.font?
[05:29] <sponix> do I have to install a screensaver package with kubuntu ?
[05:29] <w1z4rd> insanekane: as i just said... i want to game. i dont have an alternative :/ what part of that is hard to comprehend?
[05:29] <w1z4rd> sponix: sudo apt-get install xscreensaver ?
[05:29] <nnn0> cedega sux :)
[05:30] <sponix> w1z4rd:  dpkg --get-selections show I have it installed, but I don't have any screen savers kicking on
[05:30] <insanekane> w1z4rd: you do have an alternative ... pay the $5 per month to the wine devels
[05:30] <w1z4rd> i heard the was an arguement with people who use KDE.. apparently KDE has some liscence issues that the general linux public dont like....whats the comment on that?
[05:31] <w1z4rd> insanekane: i donate about $30 a month to wine dev... i fail to see where you are going with this...
[05:31] <insanekane> w1z4rd: that was a long time ago ... the arguments were created by people like you who just dont get it
[05:31] <w1z4rd> insanekane: i dont even know the arguments
[05:31] <w1z4rd> god dammit
[05:31] <insanekane> w1z4rd: well thats a good thing. I'm glad you do donate.
[05:31] <w1z4rd> i dont have time for kids
[05:31] <w1z4rd> later
[05:31] <nnn0> insanekane, shut up please
[05:32] <kkathman> anyone here using Firefox to manage RSS feeds?
[05:32] <sensei> Wonder if AA can help me.. lvl 46 on frozen-bubble
[05:32] <soulrider> hi everyone
[05:32] <grizzly> I need a cdwriting app ( gui OR cli ) that would kind of auto-multisession. i.e I just want never to close/fixate the cd
[05:33] <insanekane> nnn0: want to hear a story of someone who came on this channel, asked for my help, got it, and when I asked him to vote for a bug in Kubuntu (which would fix his original problem), he just wouldnt do it saying "oh, i would have to register at launchpad to do that" ?
[05:33] <grizzly> k3b works but multisession has to selected manually everytime.
[05:33] <nnn0> i said please :)
[05:33] <insanekane> grizzly: for me, i never have to
[05:33] <sensei> grizzly: cdrecord I suppose
[05:34] <insanekane> grizzly: the selection called "automatic" does automatically select multisession if it is possible with the specific media
[05:35] <grizzly> insanekane: Thanks for the news I'll try another cd-rw.
[05:35] <Jack1> sensei can i ask u sth
[05:35] <Jack1> ?
[05:35] <morrow> aendert ja nix :)
[05:35] <insanekane> grizzly: again, so far it has always worked for me. ymmv
[05:35] <sensei> Jack1: Didn't you just do that ?
[05:36] <vaka> how can i reload the fonts in ~/.font?
[05:36] <Jack1> lsusb gives me Bus 001 Device 013: ID 04b8:0121 Seiko Epson Corp. sensei yes lol
[05:36] <v3ctor> add fonts with konqueror and you don't have to worry about reloading
[05:36] <sensei> vaka: xset fp rehash
[05:36] <Jack1> sensei scanimage -L finds the scanner
[05:36] <insanekane> vaka: fc-cache -f
[05:37] <insanekane> vaka: but you will need to reload your apps to make it truly work accross the desktop
[05:37] <rjb> hmmm is it just me, or is www.weatheronline.co.uk blocking access by firefox? could anyone verify?
[05:37] <rjb> (please?)
[05:37] <Jack1> sensei just when i do the xsane & failed to open device"snapscan:libusb:001:013" invalid argment
[05:38] <Wanderer> Anyone know about using kopete and logigng conversations?
[05:38] <Jack1> it is so weird i pointed in then snapscan.conf to the right firmware location and the esfw41.bin is the genuine windows one sensei
[05:39] <sensei> Jack1: Unless I know the answer from the top of my head, I don't do printer and/or scanner issues without getting paid.. just too boring/time consuming
[05:39] <sensei> Sorry
[05:40] <Jack1> sensei can understand right
[05:41] <soulrider> this will sound horribly noobish, but im downloading hava 5 update 7, and its a bin file.. how do i install it :-/
[05:41] <sensei> I just hang here to improve my karma to get out of hell for lauging at that retarded kid for three years in grammar school :/
[05:41] <dergringo> looking for a repository that offers amarok 1.4.1
[05:41] <Bazzi> dergringo: kubuntu.org
[05:42] <v3ctor> dergringo: the standard repo has it i believe
[05:42] <dergringo> Bazzi: thx
[05:43] <dergringo> v3ctor: no but it can be downloaded from this repo: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141 dapper main
[05:43] <insanekane> sensei: you offer support for money ?
[05:43] <v3ctor> ok...i have it and i don't have that repo ;)
[05:43] <sensei> Jack1: Remember that that isn't necessarely a kubuntu specific question, there's #linuxhelp and ##Linux  as well
[05:44] <sensei> And if you're good, just about any distro channel would do.. just pretend you've done everything from source
[05:44] <arso> loool
[05:45] <larson9999> hmmm, vlc won't save a playlist for me
[05:45] <Jack1> sensei right i was looking the linux forums
[05:45] <Jack1> sensei its difficult
[05:46] <sensei> Yeah, either that or really simple :) One can never know
[05:48] <larson9999> silly me, i was expecting it to append the extension for me.
[06:01] <larson9999> pretty interesting that the extension isn't added automatically but the drop down used to open playlists doesn't have an 'all files' option
[06:11] <naranha> kann man ein dist-upgrade zu edgy machen, ohne dass das komplette system zerschossen wird :)?
[06:12] <v3ctor> !de
[06:12] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:12] <naranha> sorry
[06:13] <h3sp4wn> naranha: Have you already done the dist-upgrade to edgy or do you want to know whether you can ?
[06:13] <naranha> i'm doing it right now, i can still press ctrl + c ;)
[06:14] <h3sp4wn> kde seems to be working ok at the moment in edgy
[06:14] <h3sp4wn> only kde and kdeartwork seems to be broken but thats not too important
[06:15] <Jack1>  /j #linux
[06:15] <naranha> okay i'll try it.. i just want the newest versions of the apps im using
[06:16] <h3sp4wn> naranha: What apps ?
[06:16] <naranha> all of them :)
[06:17] <naranha> i've been using the dapper repository since the beginning of that year, it worked fine too
[06:17] <h3sp4wn> Some stuff will break - You won't be able to boot the 2.6.17 kernels from the repos without changing some device names (i.e hda becomes sda)
[06:19] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: What do you mean only KDe seems to be broken?
[06:19] <larson9999> edgy is too edgy for me
[06:19] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: The meta-package kde
[06:19] <DaSkreech> Ah ok that's a little more reasonable
[06:19] <Towering> is there a way to encrypt in konversation?
[06:21] <naranha> okay maybe i wait a little more with the update :)
[06:22] <sspmetal> hello
[06:23] <grizzly> cdrecord  driveropts=burnfree  dev=/dev/hdc 896_cam_3.mov  - this works , but the cd isn't readable anymore
[06:24] <grizzly> mount -t iso9660 gives wrong filesystem specified erro
[06:25] <grizzly> Anybody is my cdrecord command correct?
[06:27] <CzarAlex``> I currently run Kubuntu but would like to install XCFE and have it as an option for a desktop manager when I log in to the system. What do I need to apt-get install to run Kubuntu with XCFE as an option?
[06:27] <milo> hi
[06:27] <grizzly> CzarAlex``: just install aptitude xfce-dexktop or something
[06:28] <grizzly> the option to choose would be automatic I guess
[06:28] <ninHer> hi all
[06:28] <Towering> I like using Konversation, but don't seem to see any support in encryption for it, is there such a program for encryption to use in channels that use encryption?
[06:29] <CzarAlex``> grizzly, sounds simple enough.
[06:30] <sspmetal> someone know where i can take drivers for my geforce 7600GT?
[06:30] <sensei> !nvidia
[06:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:30] <noaXess_kubuntu> !mp3
[06:30] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:30] <sspmetal> !nvidia
[06:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:31] <sspmetal> thanks
[06:33] <sspmetal> i have kubuntu... why i don't have the  Synaptic Package Manager?
[06:34] <sspmetal> i need it for the video drivers
[06:34] <v3ctor> you don't *need* it
[06:34] <pupeno> sspmetal: adept is the default package manager for kubuntu.
[06:34] <Blissex> sspmetal: you don't need it, it is just a nicer version of 'apt-get'
[06:34] <sspmetal> but in the HowTo it says i need it
[06:35] <sensei> Yeah, everything on the internet is true and black & white
[06:35] <tuza> Hi guys, I have a question
[06:35] <zorglu1> !qemu
[06:35] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[06:35] <sensei> You can 'modify' most guides out there.. and still get it working
[06:36] <sspmetal> i'm very newbie with linux, i don't know how install drivere
[06:36] <noaXess_kubuntu> !ati
[06:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:36] <tuza> i'm running gentoo 64bits right now, and I want to switch to kubuntu, but at the same time i've heard that kubuntu has lots of compatibilities issues, and more at 64bits
[06:37] <sensei> sspmetal: Unless you'e a newbie with English as well, I'm sure you'll be alright with the guide
[06:37] <tuza> is it likely to find troubles running kubuntu at 64
[06:37] <h3sp4wn> tuza: If you are not bothered about flash you should be ok
[06:37] <sspmetal> but in the guide it says that i need the synaptic manager
[06:37] <sensei> sspmetal: Either find another way of doing it, or find another guide
[06:38] <sensei> Or get synaptic
[06:38] <v3ctor> sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[06:38] <v3ctor> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:38] <v3ctor> that is what i get from that guide
[06:39] <tuza> h3sp4wn: yes, i bother about flash....isn't that possible?
[06:39] <sensei> :)
[06:40] <pupeno> Ok, it seems the free ones doesn't work at all, the packaged ones are dead-slow (even for scrolling text) and the ati.com's one, althought they have 2d acceleration, 3d acceleration doesn't work (unable to load dri) and the cursor in the second display is a big blue square... if anybody has an idea, I'd like to read it.
[06:40] <sensei> RadiantFire: Bully :(
[06:40] <h3sp4wn> tuza: There is no 64 bit version of flash you can either have a 32bit chroot, not worry about it or try to use the free implimentation
[06:40] <ninHer> well, this is not correct
[06:41] <ninHer> read this: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[06:41] <tuza> thanks
[06:42] <sensei> ninHer: That would be "the free implementation"
[06:42] <h3sp4wn> Currently Gnash is under heavy development and although many features work, not all movies play sucessfully
[06:42] <ninHer> but it works more than acceptable
[06:43] <ninHer> at least in my kubuntu dapper 64b
[06:43] <ninHer> sensei:  of course.......free software
[06:46] <sspmetal> i have downloaded synaptic_0.57.8ubuntu11_i386.deb , how can i install it?
[06:46] <h3sp4wn> sspmetal: you should just install it with sudo apt-get install synaptic
[06:46] <sspmetal> thank you very much
[06:48] <sspmetal> it doesn't work :(
[06:48] <sensei> !doesntwork
[06:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about doesntwork
[06:48] <sensei> There should really be that car repair shop analogy there
[06:53] <sspmetal> someone know if exist an all-in-one debian package that include all libraries?
[06:53] <nico8481> anyone using a Level One WBR-3407A?
[06:55] <sensei> nico8481: Most likely several thousand people
[07:01] <sspmetal> i have installed some libs but it says they are not configured... :(
[07:04] <sensei> sspmetal: Come on
[07:04] <sensei> Treat us as if we're a service station for your car. Now if your trunk won't close. Do you simply walk up to them and say "My car doesn't work. I tried duct tape, but it wouldn't stick" and then leave?
[07:05] <sensei> Or would you say "MY trunk is broken, the holding pin is bent, I tried taping it together but it didn't stick." ?
[07:05] <sspmetal> ??
[07:06] <Pupeno> !ati
[07:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:06] <sensei> And so yet another piece of my belief in humanity died
[07:06] <Pupeno> !nvidia
[07:06] <Utente> Hi I have an IbookG4 with kubunu installed.. It seems that my cpu works at 600Mhz when my processor can work at 1.2 ghz... I'm in wrong?
[07:08] <sensei> Utente: It's powernow
[07:08] <sspmetal> i have launch the command sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[07:08] <sensei> It's a good thing, it throttles the CPU down when it's not in use to save battery etc
[07:09] <ninHer> away
[07:09] <sspmetal> but when i launch sudo nvidia-glx-config enabl
[07:09] <sspmetal> but when i launch sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:09] <sspmetal> it says that the command is wrong :(
[07:10] <sspmetal> please help me
[07:10] <Utente> So, my system is well configured :-/
[07:10] <sensei> Utente: Why the :-/ ?
[07:10] <Utente> I'm not sure
[07:11] <Utente> how can I monitor the cpu frequency?
[07:11] <MidMark> guys, vlc for ubuntu is streaming enabled?
[07:11] <MidMark> cannot make it work
[07:11] <Towering> ok, are there drivers for mice support? i have an ms mouse explorer with dual tilt wheel...
[07:11] <sensei> top for CLI and gkrellm for GUI
[07:11] <h3sp4wn> sudo nvidia-xconfig enable (try that)
[07:11] <h3sp4wn> sspmetal: ^^
[07:11] <sensei> But I think there's a system performance tool in the menus somewhere
[07:11] <sspmetal> sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[07:11] <sspmetal> :((
[07:12] <RadiantFire> sspmetal: here is what you can do
[07:12] <RadiantFire> kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:12] <RadiantFire> then do a search for "nv"
[07:12] <RadiantFire> and replace it with "nvidia"
[07:12] <RadiantFire> sspmetal: you have to actually have nvidia-glx installed
[07:12] <sspmetal> Failed to open device
[07:12] <sspmetal> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[07:13] <Utente> Is there a way to manually set up the cpu frequency?
[07:14] <sensei> Utente: Why do you want to do that ?
[07:15] <sensei> But sure, you can twiddle with the files in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/
[07:15] <Utente> for example, if I want to work at full speed everytime :-)
[07:15] <sensei> Utente: You don't want that
[07:15] <sensei> As soon as it needs full speed, it'll get full speed
[07:18] <MidMark> guys, vlc for ubuntu is streaming enabled?
[07:18] <Utente> Sorry for my question.. but I used an old kernel that it dosen't switch to the high frequency..
[07:18] <sensei> Most apps can do streaming, haven't tried VLC but I can't see why it shouldn't
[07:19] <MidMark> sensei: yes but I cannot make it works... someone that uses vlc as streaming server'
[07:19] <MidMark> ?
[07:19] <Utente> I have another question...
[07:20] <zorglu1> MidMark: extensive doc on the vlc web site
[07:20] <Utente> My cpu fan seems to work very fast a for minutes compared to MacOSX
[07:20] <MidMark> zorglu1: yes, read it
[07:20] <sysrpl> i am having a problem with kde where when i create folders or files on my desktop using terminal they don't appear in the gui until i add or a remove an item through the gui
[07:21] <sysrpl> does anyone know anything about that?
[07:21] <zorglu1> MidMark: well i already did it. i dont remember it tho. but the example in the doc were working
[07:22] <sensei> Utente: Could it be the throttling issue? :)
[07:22] <Utente> Where can I set up the fun speed and temperature limit?
[07:22] <Utente> :-)
[07:22] <sensei> I told you earlier
[07:23] <Blissex> Utente: for the fun speed that's usually done with brighly colored pills :-)
[07:23] <sensei> hah
[07:24] <Utente> :-)
[07:24] <Blissex> Utente: trying to understand what you are saying...
[07:25] <Blissex> Utente: you cannot control the speed of most fans. They have a builtin temp sensors and that drives the speed.
[07:25] <Blissex> Utente: what you can do is to run a CPU speed governor or dmon that controls the speed and thuse the temp of the CPU.
[07:26] <Utente> ok..
[07:26] <MidMark> zorglu1: I open on vlc with http and port 1234, then client open http://my_ip:1234 but connection refused
[07:26] <MidMark> I have a router, butI have opened port 1234
[07:26] <h3sp4wn> You can get fan controllers that can be controlled by i2c-etc
[07:26] <sensei> MidMark: UDP ?
[07:27] <MidMark> sensei: what?
[07:27] <dr_willis> i thought you connected to the  VLC servers with the VLC program on other machines.. not a web browser
[07:27] <sensei> MidMark: For whuch protocol have you opened your router ?
[07:27] <zorglu1> i hate window... im trying to find the install cd via p2p system because those *GSF?!@@?># didnt even gave me the cd when i bought my laptop on which i have been forced to buy a window license
[07:27] <MidMark> dr_willis: of course open stream on vlc client not browser
[07:27] <zorglu1> MidMark: do telner myaip 1234
[07:27] <MidMark> sensei: tcp and udp
[07:27] <zorglu1> telnet
[07:28] <dr_willis> be cool if ya coudl just http: to the thing. :P but ive not messed with vlc screaming much.
[07:28] <MidMark> zorglu1: connection refudes
[07:29] <zorglu1> MidMark: so the issue is in the server
[07:29] <MidMark> zorglu1: I have to open only for tcp?
[07:29] <h3sp4wn> MidMark: I take it you are testing from outside your network ?
[07:29] <zorglu1> MidMark: either firewall or actual server listening addr
[07:29] <zorglu1> MidMark: i dunno
[07:29] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: no, I have to do this?
[07:29] <Blissex> zorglu1: Microsoft gives a discount to manufacturers who don't include an install disk, because that often forces the customer to buy a second copy of MS Windows.
[07:30] <zorglu1> Blissex: im not surprised :)
[07:30] <zorglu1> Blissex: i got 2 license of xp and no cd :)
[07:30] <zorglu1> im *forced* to support windows as it remain 95% of the market... but i so fucking hate it :)
[07:31] <Blissex> zorglu1: that's exactly the goal.
[07:31] <Snake[Sleep] > zorglu1: ya it sucks
[07:31] <zorglu1> and so many people got copy that having a .iso via p2p is not that easy :)
[07:32] <Blissex> zorglu1: the license says that an OEM license is motherboard specific, so if you upgrade the PC or the motherboards, you must buy a new license. To prevent you from taking your existing license and reinstalling on the upgraded PC, MS gives a discount if the install media are not provided.
[07:32] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: yes connection refused
[07:32] <Snake[Sleep] > Blissex: thats not entirly true, you can call up MS and they will give you a new key
[07:32] <zorglu1> Blissex: well i guess that running window via qemu wont work then :) :)
[07:32] <MidMark> what can be?
[07:33] <Blissex> Snake[Sleep] : no, thats specifically forbidden by the OEM license. Only if you have the retail license.
[07:33] <zorglu1> i havent run window in the last 8 years and fuck i hate to come back :)
[07:33] <MidMark> Kubuntu has no firewall isn't?
[07:33] <Blissex> zorglu1: thats illegal...
[07:33] <Snake[Sleep] > Blissex: Hmmmmmm..... weird.
[07:33] <user->  i just bought a win computer
[07:34] <Towering> speaking of firewall, any recommendations for a firewall to use on kubuntu?
[07:34] <user->  coz of linux sound fuckups
[07:34] <v3ctor> iptables
[07:34] <Snake[Sleep] > Towering: Learn how to use iptables
[07:34] <user->  fukin yech
[07:34] <Snake[Sleep] > !language
[07:34] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:34] <Towering> ok
[07:34] <Blissex> Snake[Sleep] : ahhhh MS licensing is more than weird. For example it is illegal to run any program compiled with Visual Studio on a non Microsoft OS. Same for MS Office. This is to make it illegal to run it under VMware or QEMU or WINE.
[07:34] <user->  sowwy
[07:34] <Snake[Sleep] > Blissex: Fun stuff lol
[07:42] <Blissex> Towering: belay that!
[07:42] <Blissex> Towering: DON'T learn to use 'iptables', because that usually takes a couple of years.
[07:43] <v3ctor> you can always use an iptables frontend like guardog
[07:43] <Blissex> Towering: I have done a small list of firewall builders here: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linuxFwConfig.html
[07:47] <Towering> ok, thanks
[07:47] <Towering> i think i missed something in configuring konversation.. it gives error when clicking on links to open up to firefox
[07:48] <Towering> ok, fixed that
[07:49] <ampi> hello everybody
[07:50] <omeow> Towering: I made a wiki page for that; http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/Browsers_and_Konversation
[07:50] <gatekeeper> evening
[07:50] <squilla> hia all
[07:50] <squilla> problem I have with an Apple iBook
[07:51] <squilla> is there a more appropriate #?
[07:51] <Towering> i said i fixed that.. thx anyway
[07:51] <Midspeed> hi everybody
[07:51] <apol> squilla: what's your prob?
[07:52] <Blissex> squilla: probably #Ubuntu-PPC or something like that, if it is an older PPC iBook
[07:52] <squilla> I got my cd's from shipit - so I have to go with "live" and then install once live is booted right?
[07:52] <apol> right
[07:52] <Midspeed> i have a little problem here, i have kubuntun 6.06 and windows xp installed under one hard drive, i want to be able to delete and modify files on my windows partition from linux, but it doesnt allow me to do that, and it wont let me change the darn permissions and im the root :'(
[07:53] <gatekeeper> omeow: someone was hasing trouble in here yesterday with modifying the default browser from konqueror to Firefox using Thunderbird seen that problem before just out of curiousity?
[07:53] <squilla> the install proceeds fine but eventually the cd stops being accessed and I'm left with a flashng cursor top left and no way to access a console, no desktop, nada
[07:54] <Blissex> Midspeed: except by using special methods you can only read, but not write, NTFS filesystems.
[07:54] <apol> and if you reboot does it boot?
[07:54] <Midspeed> oh ok, thanks blissex, thats bad news for me :'( ok thanks
[07:54] <omeow> gatekeeper: How where they trying to change it?
[07:54] <omeow> Via konversation or via the kde components menu?
[07:55] <Blissex> Midspeed: however look for ''Captive NTFS'' or ''FUSE NTFS''
[07:55] <gatekeeper> Midspeed: Xandos is the only distro that I know that claims to let you modify stuff on NTFS partitions, most of the time I believe it is fairly lethal
[07:55] <squilla> no booting does naught
[07:55] <omeow> gatekeeper: The default custom browser string that comes with kubuntu is invalid and causes pages to not load correctly.
[07:55] <Towering> and i have yet to test out ubunut... really liking kubuntu
[07:56] <gatekeeper> omeow: I suggested the method outlined in your Wiki, but apparently it didn't do the trick
[07:56] <apol> squilla, are you spanish?
[07:56] <omeow> gatekeeper: What didn't work? And which browser?
[07:56] <squilla> apol: no :-D
[07:56] <apol> ok
[07:57] <squilla> apol:cape town, south african english ....
[07:57] <apol> well
[07:57] <squilla> apol: why?
[07:57] <apol> xDDD, sorry
[07:57] <apol> you said "nada" to say nothing
[07:57] <apol> I'm sorry
[07:57] <apol> well
[07:57] <squilla> apol: I can't get to the install stage, if I could , or even if I could just get a console it'd be an improvement
[07:57] <slow-motion> re
[07:58] <apol> why don't you try to install it with the installation cd instead of the live cd?
[07:58] <squilla> apol:the keys are odd too - have to use apple+Fn+F*
[07:58] <squilla> apol: the installation cd is the live cd
[07:58] <gatekeeper> omeow: Thunderbird apparently kept using Konquerer as the default browser, and changing the default browser in system settings apparently did not give the guy what he wanted, don't know if he ever fixed it
[07:58] <squilla> apol: sadly
[07:58] <apol> you have another
[07:58] <apol> let me see, 1 mom
[07:59] <squilla> apol: k
[08:00] <squilla> apol: I may have to download the alternate cd :-(
[08:00] <apol> there is (on the web" the alternate cd
[08:01] <apol> I installed with it on my macmin
[08:01] <apol> i
[08:01] <apol> i didnt use the livecd
[08:01] <apol> it should work BTW
[08:01] <apol> you could send the bug at the launchpad
[08:01] <squilla> apol: I think I'll try once more with "rescue" - to get to a console
[08:02] <squilla> apol: it may just be the machine - it's not mine - I'm bartering services
[08:02] <gatekeeper> omeow: Thunderbird used Konquerer as the default browser he wanted it to use Firefox instead when clicking on a URL in thunderbird
[08:02] <squilla> apol: :-D
[08:02] <apol> rescue mode doesn't make the usual installation sadly
[08:04] <squilla> apol: back later - cheers
[08:04] <apol> squilla: :)
[08:05] <zorglu1> hmm running a kubuntu live cd under qemu kubuntu seems to make it fails on 'kde is up on running'
[08:05] <arso> how do i become superuser or root or watever please? wats the command
[08:05] <h3sp4wn> omeow: Look at prefs.js 'user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.http", "/opt/firefox/firefox");' works (in .thunderbird don't know whether that is what you need to do)
[08:05] <omeow> gatekeeper: That's a known bug in Thunderbird, you can change that via the config editor.
[08:05] <arso> *URGENT*
[08:05] <zorglu1> it goes quite far tho :)
[08:05] <arso> zorglu1:  help!
[08:05] <omeow> I was talking about konversation by the way.
[08:05] <zorglu1> arso: man stop begging :)
[08:05] <omeow> h3sp4wn: I know already. :)
[08:05] <arso> :P
[08:05] <arso> i am i na hurry
[08:06] <omeow> In a hurry for what?
[08:06] <arso> for leaving
[08:06] <arso> need to sign in as root
[08:06] <abattoir> arso: sudo
[08:06] <omeow> which groups is the user in?
[08:06] <h3sp4wn> arso: sudo -i
[08:06] <omeow> If you're not in the admin group (I think) you can't sudo.
[08:06] <abattoir> arso: if you want to 'become' the super user, sudo su
[08:07] <h3sp4wn> abattoir: sudo -i not sudo su
[08:07] <omeow> abattoir: ohmgz that was lethal according to someone.
[08:07] <arso> getting access denied
[08:07] <omeow> (sudo su worked fine for me)
[08:07] <arso> when i try to paste anything into
[08:07] <arso> one of my partitions
[08:07] <arso> its ext3
[08:07] <abattoir> h3sp4wn, omeow: oh really, i use it all the time... ok sudo -i it is :)
[08:08] <arso> the drive doesnt show up on windows too , all the other partitions do
[08:08] <arso> with fs driver
[08:08] <arso> so somethings up with this partition
[08:08] <arso> and i cant paste into it
[08:08] <arso> wtf,
[08:08] <apol> arso: ntfs can't be modified, its readonly
[08:09] <apol> AFAIK
[08:09] <arso> dude its EXT3
[08:10] <h3sp4wn> abattoir: 'su' and 'su -' should be different (have environment variables set differently) but I think su works in strange way on dapper - 'sudo -s' and 'sudo -i' are the sudo equivalants - but only use sudo -s if you know the differences - sudo -i most of the time is best
[08:11] <abattoir> oh ok, thanks for the info :)
[08:11] <squilla> arso: "sudo bash" - at your own risk and I never told you
[08:13] <jerome_> !qemu
[08:13] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[08:13] <SpAwN> hello all im trying to install cedeag again....but this time its asking for a dependency which is xlibs where can i find this dep?
[08:14] <SpAwN> cedega depends on xlibs (>> 4.1.0); however:
[08:14] <SpAwN>   Package xlibs is not installed.
[08:15] <escay> hallo zusammen
[08:16] <squilla> !cedega
[08:16] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[08:16] <squilla> !ibook
[08:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about ibook
[08:16] <uniq> squilla: what's your ibook problem?
[08:17] <escay> hi all, is there a german kubuntu channel on this server?
[08:17] <v3ctor> !de
[08:17] <h3sp4wn> !de
[08:17] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:17] <uniq> escay: try !kubuntu-de
[08:17] <uniq> ehm.. #kubuntu-de
[08:17] <escay> thx
[08:19] <SpAwN> hmm i cant get xlibs to instal
[08:19] <v3ctor> sudp aptitude install xlibs
[08:19] <SpAwN> i woulda thought seience its a *.deb it would install
[08:19] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: http://LinuxForDummies.org/ and look in the Kubuntu section.  I've dcoumented that error you are getting
[08:19] <SpAwN> Hawkwind: oh realy nice man =D
[08:19] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Ohhh, different error, nevermind
[08:19] <SpAwN> Hawkwind: doh!
[08:19] <SpAwN> lol
[08:19] <v3ctor> tease
[08:20] <squilla> uniq: I only have the new dapper cdwith the graphical installer
[08:20] <squilla> uniq: the disk boots, etc etc but never gives me  agui or console and I can't seem to use alt+f? to get to a console
[08:20] <SpAwN> v3ctor: http://pastebin.ca/80676
[08:21] <uniq> squilla: ah.. livecd not working. Only suggestion i can give is to try the alternate cd.
[08:21] <squilla> uniq: bugger - download a whole image fr a guy I only met today?
[08:21] <SpAwN> v3ctor: will that mess anything up if i remove the cedega package...using that commans
[08:22] <squilla> uniq: nah ..... :-/
[08:22] <v3ctor> does cedega work?
[08:22] <SpAwN> well...yes and no
[08:22] <uniq> squilla: you can try to rsync it, and probably save some downloadtime.
[08:22] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Get rid of Cedega.  If Windows is the best tool for the job, then use it
[08:22] <SpAwN> i did a diff solution last time...where i took out the xlib depdenancy in the deb
[08:22] <v3ctor> SpAwN: can't say for sure what will break
[08:22] <SpAwN> and one game still wont work..........so i figured id try this
[08:22] <v3ctor> if anything
[08:23] <SpAwN> v3ctor: whats the worst case scenerio
[08:23] <zorglu1> hmm ok definitly isnt working
[08:23] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: Taking the xlib dependancy out of the deb is alot cleaner solution
[08:23] <SpAwN> ....like total system failure
[08:23] <v3ctor> doubt there would be total system failure ;)
[08:23] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn: i did that.....and well....its making me think thats whats causing the game noit to work
[08:24] <SpAwN> i have tried everything else....
[08:24] <SpAwN> or i think i have
[08:24] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: That will not be it
[08:24] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: xlibs are still there the package has just been renamed
[08:24] <zorglu1> qemu+kqemu doenst seems to interact well with my kubuntu. i try boot a kubuntu live cd with qemu and after a while the whole os, base + emulated are frozen. up to capslock no more working and the sound ofthe base os being stopped
[08:24] <h3sp4wn> zorglu1: Are you using qemu 0.81 ?
[08:25] <zorglu1> h3sp4wn: yep, the binary version from the qemu website
[08:25] <SpAwN> hmm well this sucks....i thought this was gonna be the fix i needed :/
[08:25] <escay> ive got a problem with the sound output to my subwoofer and center speaker. the 4 smaller speakers are working. using a nforce2 onboardsound. already tried all the settings in kmix but still it doesnt work. clue anyone?
[08:25] <zorglu1> h3sp4wn: maybe some gcc issue tho... i tried to compiled it at first and it say 'i got trouble with gcc4, use gcc3.3'
[08:26] <zorglu1> h3sp4wn: so if the abi is incompatible... i may be the reason
[08:26] <h3sp4wn> zorglu1: I used the deb-src lines for debian sid
[08:26] <Pupeno> !ati
[08:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:26] <zorglu1> h3sp4wn: moreover it goes quite far in the boot, aka up to the livecd displaying 'kde is up and running'
[08:26] <squilla> uniq: make an iso on my drive of the livecd and rsync that?
[08:26] <Towering> !ms
[08:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about ms
[08:26] <omeow> Now where was this extension that allowed me to dock thunderbird in the tray? =/
[08:26] <Towering> hmm
[08:26] <zorglu1> h3sp4wn: ok will try
[08:27] <omeow> I can't find it at all. And I've used it before.
[08:27] <h3sp4wn> zorglu1: There is some like bios'es (for sparc and mac) that I just installed the sid deb's for but I just used debuild -uc -us for the rest of it and it worked fine
[08:27] <uniq> squilla: yes.
[08:28] <v3ctor> omeow: kdocker?
[08:28] <uniq> squilla: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/my.iso and rename my.iso to whatever is the name of the alternative install iso, and rsync that.
[08:28] <omeow> v3ctor: Will that show me when thunderbird has new mail?
[08:29] <squilla> uniq: that is rocking my guy - I will give it a bash - thanks muchly
[08:29] <v3ctor> no idea
[08:29] <v3ctor> i use kmail
[08:30] <squilla> uniq:*thinks* it won't end up larger than a cd image?
[08:30] <MrObvious> !tell MrObvious about lm-sensors
[08:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about lm-sensors
[08:30] <MrObvious> !tell MrObvious about sensors
[08:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about sensors
[08:30] <MrObvious> :|
[08:30] <escay> !sound
[08:30] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:31] <Pupeno> Can I expect to have a relative good performance with the pre-packaged fglrx ? by that I mean, as well as vesa (but with higher resolution and xinerama).
[08:31] <escay> !nvidia
[08:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:31] <escay> !nforce
[08:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about nforce
[08:31] <MrObvious> !tell MrObvious about lmsensors
[08:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about lmsensors
[08:31] <uniq> squilla: no, rsync will take care of that.
[08:31] <escay> !nforce2
[08:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about nforce2
[08:32] <squilla> uniq: I have learned - thanks dude - could fix broken downloaded disk images this way too, yes?
[08:33] <uniq> squilla: sure, rsync is cool. You just need a rsync server to download from. You can't download from webservers.
[08:34] <squilla> uniq: ok then - later - I must rsync now ... and get some ice cream and choc sauce too :-D
[08:35] <uniq> squilla: if it helps: releases.ubuntu.com::releases/kubuntu/dapper/kubuntu-6.06-alternate-powerpc.iso
[08:35] <scott___> what is the best/most/easily customisable dock applet for superkaramber?>
[08:35] <scott___> karamba
[08:35] <uniq> squilla: that's for rsync.
[08:36] <squilla> uniq: ta
[08:36] <MrObvious> How do I set up lm-sensors?
[08:36] <zorgluuu> q. how do i stop kterminal to \beep all the time ?
[08:36] <MrObvious> The command sensors-detect doesn't work like in Mandriva.
[08:36] <MrObvious> paul@upstairs:~$ sudo sensors-detect
[08:36] <MrObvious> No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[08:38] <Hawkwind> MrObvious: Ummm read the forum/wiki post you showed me
[08:38] <Hawkwind> MrObvious: You don't need to setup lm-sensors for gkrellm to use it
[08:39] <MrObvious> I lost it.
[08:39] <MrObvious> Besides the temp module in E17 needs lm-sensors.
[08:39] <Hawkwind> wiki.ubuntu.com and search for Sensor
[08:40] <MrObvious> I did
[08:40] <MrObvious> :|
[08:40] <Hawkwind> Ahhh, the temp module is about to go bye-bye
[08:40] <MrObvious> Ahh found it
[08:40] <MrObvious> Hawkwind: It is? :|
[08:40] <MrObvious> They got something better?
[08:40] <Hawkwind> No.  It's going away
[08:41] <Hawkwind> MrObvious: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[08:41] <MrObvious> Oh better
[08:41] <MrObvious> Yeah found it now.
[08:41] <MrObvious> :|
[08:41] <MrObvious> !tell MrObvious about sensor
[08:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about sensor
[08:41] <MrObvious> :|
[08:42] <Hawkwind> !sensors
[08:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about sensors
[08:43] <h3sp4wn> !lmsensors
[08:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about lmsensors
[08:43] <uniq> !sensors is <reply> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[08:43] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[08:43] <Hawkwind> Ahhh, thanks uniq :)
[08:43] <uniq> :)
[08:43] <Hawkwind> LOL the bot has me on ignore.  I tried too many triggers too quick
[08:43] <uniq> !lmsensors is <alias> sensors
[08:43] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[08:44] <MrObvious> Lmao
[08:44] <omeow> The bot needs the apache spelling module installed. =P
[08:44] <omeow> Or some sort of suggestion when the used trigger is close, but not quite right.
[08:47] <Pupeno> Which would you say is a better bet, the pre-packaged Ati drivers or the ati.com's one for a Radeon x1300 ?
[08:47] <Hawkwind> Pupeno: Nvidia :P
[08:48] <jimmy__> kubuntu newbie just installed
[08:48] <MrObvious> Actually I heard some Radeon drivers come better supported than NVidia.
[08:48] <Pupeno> Hawkwind: I don't think an nvidia driver would work with an Ati card. If you know how to do it and it works better than the ati driver, then, please, tell me. Otherwise I am not interested. Thnk you.
[08:49] <Hawkwind> I never mentioned the word 'driver'  I mentioned Nvidia, as in get yourself an Nvidia card :P
[08:49] <squilla> uniq: is there an rsync server for ubuntu-alternate-powerpc?
[08:49] <Hawkwind> Pupeno: I'd use the pre-packaged stuff
[08:49] <MrObvious> lol
[08:49] <uniq> squilla: the one i gave you.
[08:49] <Pupeno> Hawkwind: I wouldn't give a cent to either nvidia nor ati.
[08:49] <uniq> squilla: if it helps: releases.ubuntu.com::releases/kubuntu/dapper/kubuntu-6.06-alternate-powerpc.iso
[08:49] <MrObvious> Pupeno: What would you use then?
[08:49] <MrObvious> You don't have much else to use.
[08:50] <Hawkwind> Pupeno: I used to use the drivers from nvidia.com when I was using Mandriva.  But now in Kubuntu I use the pre-packaged stuff
[08:50] <jimmy__> anyone here with a Dell laptop with ubuntu?
[08:50] <Pupeno> Hawkwind: even if I've got an nvidia card for free (falling from the sky or something), then, there's no use because I can't plug it in my desktop.
[08:50] <Pupeno> in my notebook I mean.
[08:50] <Pupeno> MrObvious: so far, intel cards seem to work ok, with free drivers.
[08:50] <squilla> uniq: not kubuntu - I get errors if I try that - the shipit disk is ubuntu
[08:51] <sysrpl> hello
[08:51] <sysrpl> i am having a problem with kde where when i create folders or files on my desktop using terminal they don't appear in the gui until i add or a remove an item through the gui
[08:51] <uniq> squilla: ah..
[08:51] <uniq> squilla: hang on.
[08:51] <Pupeno> Hawkwind: thanks.
[08:51] <sysrpl> does anyone know is that is a common problem?
[08:51] <jimmy__> After Kubuntu install... I now have a 4" black border on my screen
[08:51] <uniq> squilla: releases.ubuntu.com::releases/dapper/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-powerpc.iso
[08:51] <squilla> uniq: here's the error "skipping non-regular file "kubuntu-6.06-alternate-powerpc.iso""
[08:51] <sensei> sysrpl: Works here
[08:52] <Pupeno> sysrpl: press f5 to reload.
[08:52] <sysrpl> i tried that
[08:52] <sysrpl> and the desktop icons i create don't show up until i add or delete another icon through th gui
[08:52] <jimmy__> does Kubuntu suck on laptops or is it Dell?
[08:53] <sysrpl> i'll google the problem, thanks
[08:53] <omeow> kubuntu has one of the worst websites ever
[08:53] <omeow> Can't find any info on the site.
[08:53] <omeow> (Any useful anyway)
[08:53] <Pupeno> jimmy__: I'd say it is Dell. Kubuntu is running well in the two laptops I have and I've heard bad things about Dell laptops.
[08:53] <omeow> I always find myself going to the gentoo wiki or searching gentoo forums and occasionally the ubuntu forums/wiki.
[08:53] <Hawkwind> jimmy__: Works fine here.  I've used Dell for years and never had an issue
[08:53] <sysrpl> sensei: do you know of a good way to resize a partition? i installed kubuntu here and the intaller setup only a 4 gb partition
[08:54] <Pupeno> omeow: what were you looking for ?
[08:54] <jimmy__> wonder how to fix it
[08:54] <uniq> squilla: rsync -av releases.ubuntu.com::releases/.pool/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-powerpc.iso .
[08:54] <sysrpl> the rest of my drive is filled with an ntfs partition
[08:54] <jimmy__> works great under Live CD
[08:54] <omeow> Pupeno: some info on how to set up an xbox 360 controller.
[08:54] <omeow> I wanted to write a page for it, but I just don't know where to add it.
[08:54] <jimmy__> but not under system
[08:55] <Pupeno> omeow: for info so broad, just use google and try to adapt to any distro you find. I think there's a wiki for both, ubuntu and kubuntu somewhere.
[08:55] <omeow> yeah, somewhere
[08:55] <Hawkwind> omeow: I've got tons of hits on google for Xbox 360 controller Kubuntu
[08:55] <squilla> uniq: "sent 124 bytes  received 264 bytes  18.93 bytes/sec" - seems too little ...? am I a pessimist?
[08:56] <Pupeno> omeow: not so hard: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ (first hit on ubuntu wiki on google).
[08:56] <uniq> squilla: rember the . at the end.
[08:56] <uniq> squilla: in a empty dir, of course.
[08:56] <omeow> Pupeno: Yes, but the links on the main page for kubuntu links to a wiki where you can't find much info.
[08:56] <jimmy__> should I try another distro?
[08:57] <jimmy__>  I know next to nothing about Linux
[08:57] <squilla> uniq: I used this "rsync -av releases.ubuntu.com::releases/dapper/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-powerpc.iso tmp/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-powerpc.iso"
[08:57] <uniq> jimmy__: of course not. what is the problem with kubuntu?
[08:57] <gatekeeper> omeow: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryDocumentation
[08:57] <MrObvious> jimmy__: Ask your questions here then.
[08:57] <jimmy__> so the less I have to fix the better
[08:57] <Pupeno> omeow: oh, there's another distro. Well, most of what works for ubuntu works for kubuntu.
[08:57] <jimmy__> thanks bro
[08:57] <MrObvious> You're welcome :)
[08:58] <jimmy__> I have a 4" border around my screen on my laptop
[08:58] <gatekeeper> omeow: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[08:58] <jimmy__> Dell Inspiron 1100
[08:58] <gatekeeper> omeow: want more?
[08:58] <jimmy__> everything else works great
[08:59] <jimmy__> 4" black border
[08:59] <Pupeno> ok, so, how do I get an xorg.conf exactly the same as the one that initially was there when I installed Kubuntu ?
[09:00] <sysrpl> pupeno: you should have backed it up
[09:00] <Hawkwind> Pupeno: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe ?
[09:00] <nic> hi
[09:00] <Pupeno> sysrpl: but I didn't :(
[09:00] <omeow> gatekeeper: what a huge list, why is it on a different domain than the ubuntu.org or kubuntu.com ones? Did someone else get frustrated about the way they presented information? ;)
[09:00] <sensei> Gah, how do I switch between tabs in kopete without the mouse ? o.O Just can't find it anywhere
[09:00] <nic> i have a problem while installing xubuntu
[09:01] <sysrpl> what's the best ubuntu/kubuntu cd burning package?
[09:01] <Pupeno> Hawkwind: it asks questions the installer never asked. Should I close my eyes and press Enter 40 times ?
[09:01] <nic> my network card doesn't get an ip via dhcp
[09:01] <Hawkwind> Pupeno: That will get you pretty darn close to the original
[09:01] <nixternal> !upgrade
[09:01] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[09:01] <nic> its chip is an rtl8139d
[09:01] <nic> how can i overcome this issue?
[09:01] <h3sp4wn> puperno: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:02] <jimmy__> still have that 4" black border
[09:02] <basalt> hi
[09:02] <gatekeeper> omeow: no idea just what I have found over the past couple of months :-) , have a look at my little home page http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[09:02] <Hawkwind> nic: No one in #Xubuntu is able to help you ?
[09:03] <nic> no, the same problem occured with xubuntu, kubuntu, debian
[09:03] <basalt> hi all, im new in kubuntu
[09:03] <nic> it seems to be an inherent problem
[09:03] <jimmy__> what do I do?
[09:03] <MrObvious> nic: Try using the command dhclient as root and see if that helps any
[09:03] <Hawkwind> nic: Why not do the install and setup the nic afterwards ?
[09:03] <Pupeno> brb
[09:04] <jimmy__> I would like to keep Kubuntu and not switch distros
[09:04] <nic> how can i setup it afterwards?
[09:04] <MrObvious> jimmy__: It could be the refresh rate is too high or something
[09:04] <Hawkwind> nic: systemsettings maybe
[09:04] <MrObvious> Check that?
[09:04] <jimmy__> how?
[09:04] <jimmy__> I'm green man
[09:05] <MrObvious> Right click your desktop and push Configure Desktop or Configure whatever....
[09:05] <MrObvious> In blank area.
[09:05] <MrObvious> It should be in there somewhere.
[09:05] <jimmy__> gotcha
[09:05] <MrObvious> If you know your monitor's max res. and frequency you should be ok.
[09:05] <h3sp4wn> jimmy__: Have to look at the fixvideoresolution howto it is very well written
[09:06] <jimmy__> i see no option
[09:06] <h3sp4wn> sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[09:07] <h3sp4wn> jimmy__: ^^
[09:07] <jimmy__> you are going to get frustrated with me dude
[09:08] <jimmy__> sorry in advance
[09:08] <jimmy__> lol
[09:08] <MrObvious> I'm not in KDE so I can't remember where it is.
[09:08] <MrObvious> Sorry lol
[09:08] <carl> hi
[09:08] <MrObvious> Try the Start menu and push System Settings
[09:08] <carl> how can I setup text-to-speech in kubuntu? I can't find anything about it in menu...
[09:09] <MrObvious> It's under Display jimmy__
[09:09] <jimmy__> found it
[09:09] <Hawkwind> carl: festival is a text2speech app
[09:10] <jimmy__> wow it set at 640x480
[09:10] <jimmy__> no wonder it sucks
[09:10] <MrObvious> Ah ha :)
[09:10] <carl> hawkwind, I see, it's not installed by default
[09:11] <jimmy__> bummer
[09:11] <MrObvious> Linux != Winblows so sometimes you gotta play wiht things to get it to work.
[09:11] <scott__> hey, im trying to setup grub to boot back into a windows xp parition i have, it is on hda2. i have looked at howto on ubuntuforums but when i tried it said it couldnt boot into it, so im guessing i set the root parition wrong on it? i set it to root(hd0,2) (although it comes up as hda3 iirc in fdisk
[09:11] <jimmy__> not letting me change it higher
[09:11] <MrObvious> Oh really?
[09:11] <MrObvious> :|
[09:11] <Hawkwind> carl: Nope.  You will have to apt-get install festival
[09:11] <jimmy__> nope
[09:11] <jimmy__> 60hz
[09:11] <carl> thanks hawkwind
[09:11] <jimmy__> also unchangable
[09:12] <Hawkwind> carl: No problem
[09:12] <MrObvious> Probably need to modify xorg.conf and that is kinda complicated for n00bs
[09:12] <MrObvious> :(
[09:12] <jimmy__> crap
[09:13] <jimmy__> what would you suggest?
[09:13] <MrObvious> Do you have an ATI or NVidia card?
[09:14] <jimmy__> ati
[09:14] <MrObvious> !ati
[09:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:14] <MrObvious> Try installing the driver
[09:14] <carl> aseigo, don't know if you are there... but I wanted to ask you what's the best way to start eating less meat... is there only tofu???
[09:14] <jimmy__> I810
[09:14] <jimmy__> i810
[09:15] <jimmy__> i810 is all it says
[09:15] <jimmy__>  i think that is ati
[09:15] <v3ctor> thats intel
[09:15] <jimmy__> ( or is it intel)
[09:16] <jimmy__> talk'n to me vector?
[09:16] <v3ctor> yes
[09:16] <jimmy__> thanks
[09:17] <jimmy__> how would I install the driver?
[09:17] <MrObvious> !intel
[09:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about intel
[09:17] <MrObvious> Dunno lol
[09:17] <v3ctor> you already have the best one you will get
[09:17] <MrObvious> Never played with intel
[09:17] <jimmy__> lol
[09:17] <jimmy__> my laptop sucks
[09:17] <v3ctor> most of them do
[09:18] <jimmy__> windows was crawling, linux made it run
[09:18] <Boon63> hi all
[09:18] <elton> hi
[09:18] <carl> jimmy_, i810 is fine
[09:18] <v3ctor> jimmy__: does the live cd get a better res?
[09:18] <jimmy__> yes
[09:18] <jimmy__> 1280x1024
[09:19] <v3ctor> copy the xorg.conf  from the livecd
[09:19] <jimmy__> full screen
[09:19] <jimmy__> no border
[09:19] <aseigo> carl: no. there is certainly other stuff... and tofu tastes like crap unless cooked well IMHO.
[09:19] <Boon63> i have mess'd up partitions can i still isntall kubunto w/o faults?
[09:19] <jimmy__> I can barely see you guys the screen is so small
[09:19] <omeow> How do I speed up the database? It's taking ages for adept to read the database now. I've got 1210 packages installed, when I first started using kubuntu it wasn't this slow. =/
[09:19] <aseigo> carl: i really suggest going and getting a good veggie cookbook.. it'll save your life =) and experiment with veg restaurants too for ideas if you can
[09:19] <carl> aseigo, tofu also looks like crap ;)
[09:19] <aseigo> carl: asian and indian food tend to often be very veg friendly
[09:20] <v3ctor> jimmy__: boot the livecd and copy the xorg.conf to your HD
[09:20] <jimmy__> can I drag and drop?
[09:20] <jimmy__> ok
[09:20] <nic> databases are always slow if you have to perform a full table scan
[09:20] <carl> aseigo, thank you very much:D The meeting is still going well btw?
[09:20] <aseigo> carl: well, so does a lot of stuf before you cook it =) i tend to marinate it and/or cook the heck out of it so it gets a nice "skin" on it...
[09:20] <nic> you should create an index on the primary key attributes
[09:20] <aseigo> carl: and avoid the soft tofu unless you are making a desert out of it or using it in soups or whatever
[09:20] <aseigo> carl: yeah, going great thanks =)
[09:20] <MrObvious> jimmy__: Do this,  load the live cd, then sudo mount /media/cdrom then do a sudo cp /media/cdrom/etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf after you do sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old first
[09:20] <jimmy__> do I just do a search to find it?
[09:21] <MrObvious> I find CLI easiest
[09:21] <carl> thanks for all that info aseigo!
[09:21] <v3ctor>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:21] <aseigo> carl: np...
[09:21] <MrObvious> First, move the current to a backup, mount the cd, then copy
[09:21] <MrObvious> I gave you the 3 commands you need
[09:22] <jimmy__> ok {shaking}
[09:22] <v3ctor> make the backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf before you boot to cd...so you don't forget
[09:23] <jimmy__> ok
[09:23] <jimmy__> where do I type all this?
[09:23] <v3ctor> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old
[09:23] <v3ctor> konsole
[09:23] <nic> ok thanx
[09:24] <v3ctor>  k -> system -> terminal program (konsole)
[09:24] <MrObvious> Lol sorry jimmy__
[09:26] <jimmy__> told me missing destination file
[09:27] <MrObvious> Ah
[09:27] <MrObvious> What you're doing is forgetting something here
[09:27] <MrObvious> The way it works is sudo cp oldfile newfile
[09:28] <MrObvious> sudo is the command to use root privilages, cp is the copy command
[09:28] <MrObvious> oldfile is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:28] <jimmy__> oh
[09:28] <MrObvious> newfile would be /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old
[09:28] <Snake[Sleep] > Thank you MrObvious
[09:28] <Snake[Sleep] > Sorry had to say it
[09:28] <jimmy__> ect/xll is location?
[09:28] <Snake[Sleep] > :)
[09:29] <v3ctor> x{eleven}
[09:29] <MrObvious> X(eleven)
[09:29] <v3ctor> lol
[09:29] <jimmy__> ohhh
[09:29] <MrObvious> Snake[Sleep] : For what?
[09:29] <Snake[Sleep] > It has to be CAPITOL X :)
[09:29] <jimmy__> lol
[09:29] <jimmy__> my bad
[09:29] <MrObvious> Linux is case sensitive
[09:29] <Snake[Sleep] > MrObvious: I dunno, you know how people say "Thank you Mr Obvious" "Captian obvious" etc
[09:29] <Snake[Sleep] > anyho
[09:29] <Snake[Sleep] > shower
[09:29] <Snake[Sleep] > px
[09:29] <Snake[Sleep] > pz*
[09:29] <MrObvious> When we type commands, watch that.
[09:30] <MrObvious> Snake[Sleep] : I guess you're welcome :|
[09:30] <jimmy__> got ya trying again
[09:31] <jimmy__> do I type the word sudo?
[09:31] <v3ctor> yes
[09:31] <jimmy__> ok
[09:32] <carl> hmm, I installed festival, but akgregator still doesn't want to speak my articles, when I press on the speak button, nothing happens?
[09:34] <jimmy__> holy crap it worked
[09:34] <v3ctor> lol
[09:35] <jimmy__> ok now I do that laundry list of commands after I reboot to the live cd
[09:35] <jimmy__> right?
[09:35] <v3ctor> correct
[09:35] <jimmy__> cool
[09:36] <jimmy__> thanks I'll be back
[09:36] <v3ctor> but you can skip the part where he said to make the copy
[09:36] <pupeno> Ok, it is looking better now.
[09:36] <jimmy__> ok, casue that is what we just did right?
[09:37] <v3ctor> correct
[09:37] <jimmy__> ok cool
[09:37] <jimmy__> writing down commands & rebooting
[09:38] <scarfreewill> i need help going on the internet with kubuntu 6.06 i am on the host pc atm and its shaired dailup
[09:42] <scarfreewill> btw my gateway is set
[09:42] <v3ctor> dhcp?
[09:43] <scarfreewill> i have a static ip
[09:43] <visik7> anyone have solved the problem with flash an youtube embedded video ?
[09:43] <Snake[Sleep] > visik7: what problem is that?
[09:44] <v3ctor> scarfreewill: ping 64.233.167.99
[09:44] <v3ctor> from kubuntu box
[09:44] <visik7> Snake: all embedded youtube video aren't playable and google video doesn't work except from audio (no problem with firefox at all)
[09:45] <Snake> visik7: ah I just use firefox, prolly why ive never seen that problem :)
[09:45] <zorglu1> visik7: try to configure konqueror to pretend to be firefox
[09:45] <Snake> I also stopped using KDE tho heh
[09:45] <scarfreewill> v3ctor: it works lol but i still can't go in the net with konqueror
[09:45] <Ash-Fox> !easysource
[09:45] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:45] <v3ctor> youtube works in konqueror for me
[09:45] <visik7> zorglu1: isn't a user agent problem
[09:46] <v3ctor> scarfreewill: you need to add nameservers
[09:46] <v3ctor> scarfreewill: just wanted to confirm that
[09:46] <visik7> Snake: so why you are in #kubuntu :)
[09:46] <omeow> visik7: Try disabling your KDE sound system.
[09:46] <omeow> (and killing arts from the process list in ksysguard)
[09:46] <v3ctor> scarfreewill: try putting that ip into konqueror
[09:46] <Snake> visik7: Just because I stopped using KDE doesnt mean I didnt use it for a year and a half and know a good bit about it :)
[09:47] <visik7> why have u stopped use it ? (just curious no flaming)
[09:47] <Snake> to slow
[09:47] <Snake> I moved to xfce, set it up just like KDE :)
[09:47] <visik7> on which system ?
[09:47] <Snake> Hostname: ubuntu - OS: Linux 2.6.15-25-server/i686 - CPU: Pentium III (Coppermine) (647.209 MHz) - Processes: 87 - Uptime: 14h 28m - Load Average: 0.44 - Memory Usage: 158.19MB/503.44MB (31.42%) - Disk Usage: 2.99GB/11.56GB (25.90%)
[09:47] <zorglu1> Snake: which cpu and how much ram do you have to have it slow ?
[09:47] <scarfreewill> v3ctor: i put my host's ip in domain name servers and its work thx man
[09:47] <Snake> zorglu1: see above
[09:47] <zorglu1> ah ok :)
[09:47] <v3ctor> scarfreewill: np
[09:47] <visik7> Snake: why do u use a server kernel ?
[09:47] <kosh> on cards that do not support multiopen ubuntu dapper is supposed to use that alsa thing that will do software mixing
[09:48] <kosh> so long as things use alsa it shoudl all just work
[09:48] <Snake> visik7: more customizable. :)
[09:48] <fiyawerx> hm, my youtube works fine
[09:48] <Snake> visik7: I made my system real light weight
[09:48] <fiyawerx> using konqeror for it too
[09:48] <kosh> visik7: what soundcard do you have?
[09:48] <kosh> fiyawerx: what soundcard do you have?
[09:48] <visik7> Snake: what's the difference between -686 and -server ?
[09:49] <Snake> visik7: server doesnt install all the crap that comes with the desktop CD, its more stripped down, then I just added programs as I wanted them
[09:49] <fiyawerx> kosh: how can i tell easily? its buitl in on the laptop
[09:49] <h3sp4wn> Snake: If speed is a problem and you want kde try kanotix or edgy
[09:49] <fiyawerx> kosh: i did have to install alsa-oss to get sound to work
[09:49] <Snake> h3sp4wn: Im fine with xfce
[09:49] <zorglu1> now that adept is good to add package, linux needs an apps to remove package :)
[09:50] <visik7> I mean the kernel not the whole system
[09:50] <Snake> zorglu1: how about.... adept!
[09:50] <zorglu1> Snake: adept can remove efficiently ?
[09:50] <fiyawerx> zorglu1: you can do it with adept/apt-get/aptitude/debfoster(my personal favorite)
[09:50] <zorglu1> ah ok :)
[09:50] <visik7> h3sp4wn: what have edgy ?
[09:50] <Snake> visik7: Ah kernel wise, not really sure, I just didnt want all the buldge of the desktop
[09:51] <kosh> fiyawerx: probably lspci will show it
[09:51] <omeow> Snake: Maybe you should try archlinux with a custom kernel? ;)
[09:51] <zorglu1> well i meant to be able to remove package as being the opposite of installing package. not as just remove this given .deb :)
[09:51] <pupeno> How do I choose between OpenGL implementations ? currently fglrxinfo shows I am using Mesa and I'd like to use the ATI one (thankfully, DRI seem s to be working) ?
[09:51] <h3sp4wn> visik7: It seems to be working pretty fast at the moment quite a bit of stuff is broken but I only use kde so it is working
[09:51] <Snake> omeow: Uh ya sure right after im done with gentoo ;) :-P
 zorglu1: how about.... adept! <- that was so damn funny!!! :)
[09:51] <dj_baggio> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8248766101102341416
[09:51] <omeow> Are you using Gentoo now?
[09:51] <dj_baggio> :)
[09:51] <Snake> omeow: No im on .. uhhh I guess xubuntu??
[09:51] <Snake> lol
[09:51] <fiyawerx> kosh: 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[09:51] <zorglu1> currently you may do a sinfle apt-get install and no clue how to undo it
[09:51] <omeow> Ok.
[09:51] <zorglu1> insanekane: what is so funny about it ? :)
[09:52] <insanekane> i dont know, just the way he said it ... i could almost picture him saying it
[09:52] <Snake> zorglu1: you could also apt-get remove... or aptitude remove
[09:52] <zorglu1> well maybe i badly expressed myself, i should have said 'undo installation' and not 'remove'
[09:52] <insanekane> like seinfeld or something
[09:52] <kosh> there is no undo
[09:52] <kosh> there is install, uninstall, reinstall, repair and a few other things
[09:53] <zorglu1> snake: if i do apt-get remove kde-desktop, this undo apt-get install kde-desktop ?
[09:53] <fiyawerx> zorglu1: they will do that, not just remove the .deb, try "debfoster" , i like that program
[09:53] <robotgeek> zorglu1: remove libgtk-2.0-bin
[09:53] <fiyawerx> zorglu1: debfoster will remove kde-desktop, _and_ everything that it keeps installed
[09:53] <robotgeek> fastest way to get rid of gnome :)
[09:53] <zorglu1> fiyawerx: oh!! excelent! i didnt knew this apps
[09:53] <fiyawerx> zorglu1: the first time you run debfoster, it'll go through all the packages you already have installed
[09:54] <fiyawerx> zorglu1: if you want to remove a package and its dependencies/associations, use the "p" for prune option
[09:54] <Snake> zorglu1: aptitude will do that too
[09:54] <fiyawerx> when it asks to keep it
[09:54] <Snake> iirc
[09:54] <fiyawerx> aptitude will only do it if you install with aptitude i believe, not apt-get
[09:54] <Snake> fiyawerx: ah correct
[09:54] <Snake> hmm
[09:54] <fiyawerx> debfoster will retroactively go through anything you've installed package wise
[09:54] <fiyawerx> and ask if you want to keep it
[09:54] <zorglu1> fiyawerx: seems exactly what i wanted :)
[09:54] <zorglu1> thanks
[09:55] <h3sp4wn> Snake: It is in universe already you can use it if you want (smartpm)
[09:55] <kosh> apt-get remove --purge somepackage
[09:55] <fiyawerx> like it'll list gnome-desktop, and all of the files that installed, and you can hit prune to remove them all at once
[09:55] <Snake> h3sp4wn: I know, but its not worth it as of now
[09:55] <fiyawerx> zorglu1: welcome :)
[09:55] <Snake> h3sp4wn: right now synaptic > SMART imo
[09:55] <h3sp4wn> Snake: aptitude > synaptic
[09:55] <Snake> h3sp4wn: dpkg > *
[09:55] <kosh> I just prefer apt-get and using adept to look at some stuff
[09:55] <Snake> >: )
[09:55] <v3ctor> chessburgers > aptitude
[09:56] <Snake> Snake: > *
[09:56] <v3ctor> cheese*
[09:56] <kosh> ick beef
[09:56] <kosh> sushi is much better :)
[09:56] <v3ctor> bleh
[09:56] <Snake> ick seafood
[09:57] <ashepherd> Hi, newb question, sound has stopped working in KDE, can't get it working again, any ideas?
[09:57] <fiyawerx> unmute?
[09:57] <fiyawerx> :)
[09:57] <ashepherd> erm thanks, but no!! :-D
[09:57] <v3ctor> what event lead up to the loss of sound?
[10:05] <fiyawerx> !lamp
[10:05] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:06] <ashepherd> no idea to be honest, just suddenlt realised
[10:07] <gamerChad> hello, I just installed kubuntu and when I boot into it, all I get is a black screen :(  I had a similar problem when installing, I got around it then by using text mode installation on the alternative cd.
[10:08] <tsdgeos> gamerChad: do you have a ati video card?
[10:08] <gamerChad> yep
[10:08] <gamerChad> X700 mobility
[10:09] <gamerChad> radeon
[10:09] <tsdgeos> well
[10:09] <tsdgeos> yeah
[10:09] <tsdgeos> ubuntu sucks on ati cards
[10:09] <tsdgeos> quick fix
[10:09] <tsdgeos> is editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:09] <tsdgeos> go to
[10:09] <tsdgeos> Section "Device"
[10:10] <tsdgeos> and change the Driver
[10:10] <tsdgeos> to "vesa"
[10:10] <gamerChad> that all?
[10:11] <tsdgeos> with that you will get graphics
[10:11] <tsdgeos> but VERY slow
[10:11] <tsdgeos> then follow this
[10:11] <tsdgeos> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:13] <grizzly> any method to change sound settings (alsa ? ) to default.
[10:15] <gamerChad> cool, the vesa thing seems to be working so far.
[10:15] <gamerChad> thanks for the help tsdgeos
[10:15] <tsdgeos> gamerChad: no prob
[10:16] <tsdgeos> that's why we are here ;-)
[10:16] <tsdgeos> just keep using kde :-)
[10:16] <grizzly> how do I restart alsa?
[10:16] <gamerChad> ubuntu folk should be fix this thing... like yesterday.  Blank screening ATI users is not a good way to encourage people to use linux or ubuntu :)
[10:17] <tsdgeos> yeah
[10:17] <tsdgeos> i wonder why did not got to fix it
[10:17] <tsdgeos> grizzly: guessing.... sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[10:18] <ashepherd> any idea on how I can troubleshoot or get my sound working again, just seems to have stopped!!
[10:18] <Snake> Anyone use mozilla?
[10:18] <ashepherd> I'm a bit new to Linux in general so go easy!! :-s
[10:18] <fiyawerx> where would i go about looking for a web/chat server software?
[10:19] <tsdgeos> ashepherd: when it did stop working?
[10:19] <h3sp4wn_> fiyawerx: freshmeat (thats where I would look)
[10:19] <hackerx> Where can i find the list of automatix packages?
[10:19] <tsdgeos> fiyawerx: you mean something like ircd?
[10:20] <fiyawerx> tsdgeos: hmm, that might work, with a web interface
[10:20] <ashepherd> couple of days ago, I can't recall doing anything to screw it up
[10:20] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[10:20] <fiyawerx> tsdgeos: just looking for something a few buddies and i can use easily that i can host so we can coordinate our game playing :)
[10:20] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[10:20] <gnomefreak> hackerx: ^^^
[10:20] <hackerx> thanks
[10:20] <stallion88> hi everybody
[10:21] <eXCeSS> sup
[10:21] <stallion88> anybody knows how to synchronize a pocket pc??
[10:21] <eXCeSS> !pocketpc
[10:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about pocketpc
[10:21] <eXCeSS> boo
[10:21] <eXCeSS> no sorry lol
[10:21] <stallion88> no problem
[10:22] <hackerx> hmm theres no one active in there
[10:22] <hackerx> does anyone know
[10:22] <hackerx> or
[10:22] <grizzly> tsdgeos: Thanks! it works ( the alsa thing)
[10:22] <hackerx> does anyone know where i can find an irc client that supports a proxy
[10:22] <tsdgeos> whoooo, i rock! two things fixed in a row!
[10:23] <tsdgeos> hackerx: i would bet konversation does
[10:23] <tsdgeos> ask on #konversation
[10:23] <tsdgeos> and if it does not bug them
[10:23] <tsdgeos> !
[10:23] <robotgeek> hackerx: use irssi over ssh
[10:23] <zorglu1> q. is there a way to give a 'nickname' to the disk installed in the /media ?
[10:23] <Raito> how do you execute a script from the command line?
[10:24] <uniq> zorglu1: udev rules are great tools.
[10:24] <robotgeek> Raito: ./script
[10:24] <zorglu1> uniq: ok will look
[10:24] <Raito> robotgeek: hmm, it didn't work, maybe I typed its name wrong
[10:24] <uniq> zorglu1: http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
[10:24] <Raito> oh wait, Linux is case sensitive
[10:24] <chavo> Raito, also that will only work if it's marked executable
[10:24] <hackerx> well what im looking for is to use a proxy ip
[10:24] <robotgeek> Raito: also make sure the script is executable
[10:25] <Raito> it doesn't work
[10:25] <Raito> how would I execute it if it isn't executable?
[10:25] <chavo> Raito, chmod +x filename
[10:25] <tsdgeos> :D
[10:25] <robotgeek> Raito: chmod +x script
[10:25] <tsdgeos> also you can do
[10:25] <ashepherd> tsdgeos, any idea on my sound mate, can go 3 for 3
[10:25] <tsdgeos> bash ./script
[10:25] <tsdgeos> ashepherd: that is more difficult
[10:25] <chavo> or sh script
[10:25] <tsdgeos> you using kde?
[10:25] <ashepherd> yep
[10:25] <tsdgeos> is artsd runnign?
[10:25] <didj> thank you uniq ^^
[10:26] <ashepherd> you are talking to a newb!! :-s
[10:26] <tsdgeos> ok sorry
[10:26] <tsdgeos> open a shell (konsole) and do this
[10:26] <tsdgeos> ps -A | grep artsd
[10:26] <ashepherd> if you can give me a few things to check, cos I am not at home atm, at work!! :-s
[10:26] <tsdgeos> ah
[10:26] <tsdgeos> hmmm
[10:26] <tsdgeos> pfff
[10:26] <tsdgeos> that's difficult
[10:27] <hackerx> I want to use a proxy ip with irc
[10:27] <ashepherd> no worries m8, I will try and come on when at home
[10:27] <ashepherd> thanks anyway tsdgeos
[10:27] <tsdgeos> ashepherd: you should try to do it "online" as it is much more easy
[10:27] <tsdgeos> no problem
[10:28] <jimmy__> vecter
[10:28] <fiyawerx> hmm so many of these projects havn't been updated in 2-3 years
[10:28] <tsdgeos> bye
[10:28] <jimmy__> live cd now does the same thing laptop is doing
[10:28] <hackerx> Is there any irc client that supports proxy ips?
[10:29] <jimmy__> so I didnt bother copying the xorg.conf file
[10:29] <MrObvious> hackerx: xchat
[10:29] <MrObvious> Or wait
[10:29] <hackerx> ok where in there
[10:29] <hackerx> cuz i couldnt find it
[10:29] <hackerx> i looked in both clients
[10:29] <MrObvious> Settings, Preferences, Network, Network Setup
[10:30] <jimmy__> windows is easier, but why does it have to suck so bad?
[10:31] <Aaron_S> When you get the chance could some one help me set up my wireless connection on kubuntu?
[10:31] <eXCeSS> !wireless
[10:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:31] <hackerx> MrObvious, i dont see it in there
[10:31] <Aaron_S> Thank you
[10:35] <hackerx> ?
[10:35] <hackerx> anyone?
[10:35] <Philip5> hackerx: we are all hiding
[10:36] <hackerx> huh?
[10:36] <fiyawerx> ok so i could set up my own ircd, and then some kind of web interface for it so people could log in and chat?
[10:36] <Hawkwind> hackerx: Did you enable multiverse and install xchat ?
[10:37] <Hawkwind> hackerx: It's not installed by default
[10:37] <hackerx> yes
[10:37] <hackerx> i have Xchat
[10:37] <hackerx> but
[10:37] <hackerx> no proxy support
[10:37] <Hawkwind> hackerx: Yes it does
[10:37] <hackerx> xplain
[10:37] <hackerx> Explain
[10:37] <hackerx> *
[10:37] <MrObvious> I told you where.
[10:37] <hackerx> nope
[10:37] <Hawkwind> Xchat -> Server List -> click on the server you want, click Edit
[10:37] <zorglu1> fiyawerx: yes. as a web interface there are some java applet doing irc client
[10:38] <hackerx> maybe i need to update?
[10:38] <hackerx> ok yea i did the edit things also
[10:38] <hackerx> nothing
[10:38] <hackerx> how would i update?
[10:38] <Hawkwind> It's there.  Has been for years
[10:38] <hackerx> hmm
[10:38] <hackerx> ok
[10:38] <Hawkwind> hackerx: You on 2.6.1 ?
[10:38] <hackerx> hold on ill look
[10:38] <MrObvious> Help/About
[10:38] <Hawkwind> Look at the top of your screen
[10:39] <Hawkwind> No need to click on Help -> About
[10:39] <hackerx> 2.6.1 of what?
[10:39] <hackerx> xchat?
[10:39] <Hawkwind> hackerx: Xchat
[10:39] <MrObvious> Hawkwind: I have to on mine to see the version.
[10:39] <Hawkwind> Isn't that what this conversation is about ?
[10:39] <Hawkwind> MrObvious: Because you're using E17
[10:39] <hackerx> im running Xchat-GNOME 0.11
[10:39] <MrObvious> Mine on the top says Xchat: MrObvious @ Freenode / #kubuntu (+ncf #ubuntu-unregged)
[10:39] <Hawkwind> MrObvious: It's different in KDE
[10:39] <MrObvious> Hawkwind: That's why.
[10:39] <Hawkwind> hackerx: That's xchat-gnome, totally different from xchat
[10:40] <MrObvious> hackerx: That's why.
[10:40] <hackerx> ok
[10:40] <hackerx> so
[10:40] <MrObvious> !universe
[10:40] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:40] <hackerx> what do i need to do?
[10:40] <Hawkwind> hackerx: alt-f2 and then type: xchat
[10:40] <MrObvious> You'll need to add that to your sources.list hackerx (multiverse and universe) if you haven't already.
[10:40] <hackerx> i have
[10:40] <MrObvious> Ok great
[10:40] <Hawkwind> Xchat is actually in universe
[10:40] <Hawkwind> hackerx: apt-get install xchat
[10:41] <Hawkwind> hackerx: That should install it
[10:41] <MrObvious> *sudo
[10:41] <hackerx> yea
[10:41] <hackerx> ok
[10:41] <jimmy__> I found linux drivers for my video card
[10:41] <hackerx> yes
[10:41] <MrObvious> jimmy__: Yay
[10:41] <Hawkwind> ERmm, add sudo, yeah
[10:41] <jimmy__> which one do I get?
[10:41] <MrObvious> Dunno lol
[10:41] <fiyawerx> zorglu1: configuring ircd-hybrid now :)
[10:41] <jimmy__> lol
[10:41] <fiyawerx> for the server part, then will look into the web clients
[10:41] <jimmy__> off of intel website
[10:41] <unix_infidel> jimmy__: you shouldnt need to get it off intel's website.
[10:42] <unix_infidel> repos should have intel integrated stuff available for you.
[10:43] <jimmy__> repos?
[10:45] <Raito> I installed a new bootsplash using usplash, but thing is, when I boot up, the whole screen is black while booting up, it eventually boots up but it doesn't show anything while that is happening. What might have I done wrong?
[10:45] <Eazy-> anyone knows of a sysinfo script for xchat that works?
[10:45] <jimmy__> repos?
[10:45] <Eazy-> nah, x-sys2 dosent work
[10:46] <jimmy__> what is repos?
[10:46] <h3sp4wn_> Eazy-: infobash
[10:47] <Eazy-> Jimmy: repository
[10:47] <TheHighChild> !tell Eazy- about repos
[10:47] <hackerx> Ok, now for a proxy server i can just use the ip and it doesnt have a login but its now working
[10:47] <Eazy-> allready know of the repos :)
[10:47] <hackerx> the host name is the ip right
[10:47] <freewill> where can i find a how to to install my nvidia gfx drivers the easiest way?
[10:48] <Eazy-> h3sp4wn_: thanx
[10:48] <larson9999> got a question. with all the hub-bub about apt-get being beter that urpmi, i'm confused why apt-get doesn't let you put in part of the package name and then give you a list of packages to chose from like urpmi does.  or does it and i just don't know how?
[10:48] <h3sp4wn_> CPU[AMD Athlon XP 2600+ clocked at 1913.224 Mhz]   Kernel[Linux 2.6.17.3-rt5-v1 i686]   Up[-5:28-]   Mem[-970.02/1003.56MB-]   HDD[-121GB(17%used)-]   Procs[-123-]   Client[Konversation 0.19] 
[10:48] <jimmy__> what version/kind of driver do I download from intel using Kubuntu?
[10:49] <h3sp4wn_> Easy-: ^^ you just do /exec infobash
[10:49] <jimmy__> video driver
[10:49] <h3sp4wn_> Easy-: infobash -v if you want more information
[10:49] <chavo> larson9999, it does, but it's not apt doing that, that is bash_completion
[10:50] <larson9999> chavo for instance: sudo apt-get install ope just tells me there are no packages.
[10:50] <chavo> larson9999, I see 514 possibilities
[10:51] <larson9999> chavo hmmm, maybe i have something set up goofey
[10:51] <chavo> larson9999, did you upgrade from breezy?
[10:51] <larson9999> chavo: no. installed from dapper desktop cd
[10:51] <chavo> ok
[10:51] <chavo> sounds like somethings wrong with bash_completion
[10:51] <jimmy__> do I use .tar or rpg or tar?
[10:52] <jimmy__> oops I diddoed
[10:52] <fiyawerx> !ircd
[10:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about ircd
[10:52] <chavo> you can check your ~/.bashrc look for some lines with "bash_completion", make sure it's not commented out
[10:54] <larson9999> chavo: it's not commented out
[10:56] <larson9999> tired of waiting for ooo to hit the repos
[10:58] <Hawkwind> chavo: Are you actually just typing: apt-get install ope   and then hitting enter or the tab key ?
[10:58] <Hawkwind> chavo: You're hitting the tab key.  That is NOT what he wants
[10:59] <Hawkwind> chavo: He wants to be able to type: sudo apt-get install ope   and then hit enter and it give him a list of packages that have 'ope' in the name
[10:59] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Is that correct ?
[10:59] <larson9999> Hawkwind: oh, he's talking about tab completion?  no, i don't want that.
[10:59] <larson9999> Hawkwind: assuming you're right about that
[11:00] <Hawkwind> larson9999: I am.  I get 517 possibilities when I hit the tab key after typing: sudo apt-get install ope
[11:00] <larson9999> Hawkwind: ok, i get 515 possibilities so that probably is what he's talking about
[11:00] <hackerx> What does it mean when it says i cant connect to this proxy because i have a open proxy on my host
[11:00] <Raito> I installed a new bootsplash using usplash, but thing is, when I boot up, the whole screen is black while booting up, it eventually boots up but it doesn't show anything while that is happening. What might have I done wrong?
[11:01] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i didn't think urpmi was any worse than apt-get.  this gives it a notch up in my book actually.
[11:01] <h3sp4wn_> !splasg
[11:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about splasg
[11:01] <h3sp4wn_> !splash
[11:01] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[11:01] <h3sp4wn_> !usplash
[11:01] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[11:01] <hackerx> anyone?
[11:01] <larson9999> s/new/knew
[11:01] <larson9999> wrong channel
[11:02] <larson9999> Hawkwind: so, do you know if you can get apt to do that like urpmi does?
[11:02] <hackerx> ***What does it mean when it says i cant connect to this proxy because i have a open proxy on my host
[11:02] <Hawkwind> larson9999: No idea.  But definitely a question I want to know the answer to
[11:02] <Hawkwind> hackerx: No need to repeat
[11:02] <hackerx> sorry
[11:02] <Hawkwind> hackerx: Patience is a virtue.  Everyone is busy or doesn't know the answer
[11:02] <bogdan_> hello ppl
[11:02] <Hawkwind> hackerx: Try asking in #Xchat
[11:03] <hackerx> k sorry
[11:03] <larson9999> Hawkwind: that's be worth adding to apt-get if not
[11:03] <bogdan_> i have a small problem with mz kubuntu. ....
[11:03] <bogdan_> i just install kubuntu 6.06 ...and i want to install a printer from my network .,...
[11:04] <bogdan_> someone from Romania here ???
[11:04] <Hawkwind> bogdan_: systemsettings -> printers
[11:04] <Hawkwind> bogdan_: You can set it up there, or use kprinter
[11:05] <bogdan_> yes i know that
[11:05] <bogdan_> i enter there ... i can find the computer on my network where is the printer conected ...
[11:05] <bogdan_> but i cannot access it ...
[11:06] <larson9999> how about the www cups thingie?
[11:06] <scott__> Where is the place to submit bug reports for Kubuntu?
[11:06] <Hawkwind> bogdan_: Might try being a bit more descriptive
[11:06] <Hawkwind> !bugs
[11:06] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[11:06] <scott__> Oh, ok, so that is good for Kubuntu too
[11:07] <imbrandon> yes
[11:07] <Hawkwind> bogdan_: Please don't pm me without permission, and keep the chat in the channel so everyone can see and help
[11:07] <basalt> hi all
[11:07] <scott__> ok, thanks
[11:08] <basalt> im new at kubuntu and i installed it on Thinkpad A22 but there is no sound, can anyone tell me why?
[11:08] <scott__> Sometimes I need to actually adjust all the volume levels to get my sound working
[11:08] <scott__> And that is on a Evo N400c, compaq
[11:09] <crimsun> basalt: use http://pastebin.ca to paste the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[11:09] <larson9999> basalt: i had a problem where my port was turned off. i used alsamix to turn it on.  sometimes going into kmix and enabling sound is needed, too.
[11:10] <basalt> thanks i will try it
[11:10] <Hawkwind> bogdan_: Please stop pm'ing me!
[11:10] <gatekeeper> !sound
[11:10] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:12] <bogdan_> ok Hawkwind
[11:12] <carlos> algum portugus ?
[11:12] <bogdan_> i just write more details about my small problem
[11:12] <larson9999> bogdan_: read the ubotu
[11:13] <gnomefreak> !pt
[11:13] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[11:13] <bogdan_> larson9999:  ? what
[11:13] <bogdan_>  i went to system settings - printers\
[11:14] <bogdan_> Add Printer/Class
[11:14] <bogdan_> there i chose SMB shared printer (Windows)
[11:14] <larson9999> bogdan_: oops wrong nick
[11:14] <bogdan_> Anonymous / Scan
[11:14] <bogdan_> There i find Workgroup  - User2   ..... my printer is conected to user2 (on this computer i have Windos XP and this printer is set up for share)
[11:14] <bogdan_> and when i try to connect to user2 .... i have this message  ... Error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[11:15] <bogdan_> no problem larson9999
[11:15] <gatekeeper> bogdan_: that looks like a permissions issue on the windows box
[11:16] <bogdan_> when i am in windows, i can connect to user2 and i can use this printer
[11:17] <gatekeeper> bogdan_: printer is attached to the windows box?
[11:17] <bogdan_> yes, on user2
[11:18] <gatekeeper> bogdan_: and you are trying to print from the linux box?
[11:18] <Cntryboy> Has anyone ever used kgpg?
[11:19] <bogdan_> gatekeeper:   i have 2 computers. user1 and user2  .... on user1 i have linux and windows xp ... and on user2 i have windows xp. this printer is conected to user2
[11:19] <RawSewage> me
[11:19] <basalt> here is the output from cards && amixer http://pastebin.ca/80828
[11:19] <RawSewage> Cntryboy, I use it
[11:19] <Cntryboy> rawsewage: is it sorta like iron key for windows?
[11:19] <RawSewage> Cntryboy, do you just want to encode a file with a password?
[11:19] <Cntryboy> rawsewage: I just want to encrypt files where u have to use pass phrase to open them.. I don't care about keys ect. really not sure what a key is for anyways..
[11:20] <Cntryboy> rawsewage: yes
[11:20] <RawSewage> Cntryboy, to do that, use the Assymetrical option.  also, I'd uncheck ASCII
[11:20] <bogdan_> gatekeeper:  and i am trying to print from user1 (linux) ...to user2 (windows) ... where is the printer
[11:20] <RawSewage> Cntryboy, keys are confusing.  I dont know how to use them
[11:20] <Cntryboy> rawsewage: well not sure what that is, but I need to install kgpg first right? do I need to install gpg first then kgpg for gui?
[11:21] <RawSewage> Cntryboy, just install kgpg.  then you should be able to right click a file and get the Encrypt option
[11:21] <Cntryboy> rawsewage: keys might be for files you send to other ppls
[11:21] <Cntryboy> rawsewage: okay js let me do that
[11:21] <Cntryboy> thx
[11:21] <RawSewage> Cntryboy, yeah, but using them is another story
[11:22] <gatekeeper> bogdan_: I think you have to 'enable print services for unix' on the windows box, like I said it is a permissions issue of one sort or another look at this: http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:gB4s_cAHiI8J:www.mepis.org/node/view/3458+NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=2
[11:23] <Cntryboy> rawsewage: I guess it's installed I used adept and hit install changes
[11:23] <Cntryboy> and nothing happened after that so
[11:24] <RawSewage> ok
[11:24] <RawSewage> right click a file
[11:24] <RawSewage> does it give you the option
[11:24] <bogdan_> gatekeeper:  thank you man. now i will try it
[11:24] <Cntryboy> only thing I see is compress
[11:24] <Cntryboy> so I don't think so
[11:25] <RawSewage> Cntryboy, youll probably have to restart X.  or you can start the program by itself, kpgp
[11:25] <Cntryboy> nm forgot to apply changes
[11:25] <gatekeeper> bogdan_: ok :-)
[11:25] <Cntryboy> rawsewage: adept is differ than synaptics lol
[11:25] <Cntryboy> first time using it
[11:25] <RawSewage> are you new to Kubuntu
[11:26] <gatekeeper> Cntryboy: apt-get install synaptic if you would rather use that I do :-)
[11:26] <eXCeSS> I've installed my ATI drivers following the how-to and when doing fglrxinfo i get "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"." Anyone konw the solution?
[11:26] <RawSewage> gatekeeper, Synaptic works fine with Kubuntu?
[11:26] <Cntryboy> lol gatekeeper
[11:27] <gatekeeper> RawSewage: ohh yes :-)
[11:27] <Cntryboy> rawsewage: it said its installed but right clicking does nothing
[11:27] <RawSewage> cool
[11:27] <h3sp4wn_> eXCeSS: lsmod | grep fglrx
[11:27] <Cntryboy> also I thought it put a shredder on desktop
[11:27] <RawSewage> Cntryboy, ok, then just start kgpg  .  the right-click appears after restarting X, I guess
[11:27] <RawSewage> it does
[11:27] <RawSewage> you can use the icon instead
[11:27] <eXCeSS> fglrx                 388908  0
[11:27] <eXCeSS> agpgart                34888  2 fglrx,nvidia_agp
[11:27] <eXCeSS> ?
[11:27] <RawSewage> just drag the file to the icon
[11:27] <Cntryboy> I dont see an icon
[11:28] <Cntryboy> how can I see if this is installed by term
[11:28] <RawSewage> did you start kgpg
[11:28] <RawSewage> alt+f2
[11:28] <RawSewage> kgpg
[11:28] <h3sp4wn_> eXCeSS: running fglrxinfo as root or a user ?
[11:28] <eXCeSS> user i think shoul di do it as root
[11:28] <Cntryboy> okay well keymanagement is up top right with lock
[11:28] <eXCeSS> root gives me the same thing
[11:28] <h3sp4wn_> It won't work as root it should be as a user
[11:29] <RawSewage> Cntryboy, drag a file onto the lock
[11:29] <Cntryboy> rawsewage do u care to msg me private this room gets scrolling and loses me
[11:29] <h3sp4wn_> eXCeSS: You using the very latest drivers ?
[11:29] <eXCeSS> yea
[11:29] <RawSewage> Cntryboy, is your nickname registered
[11:29] <h3sp4wn_> eXCeSS: from ati.com ?
[11:29] <eXCeSS> i did the guide on the wiki, then that didnt work then i did the ati oens
[11:29] <eXCeSS> yep
[11:29] <eXCeSS> maybe i installed them as sudo should i try it w/o sudo?
[11:30] <larson9999> hmmm, i want to remove openoffice but when i remove openoffice.org-help-en-us, it wants to remove language-support-en and thunderbird-locale-en-gb.  that doesn't sound right does it?
[11:30] <Cntryboy> yes
[11:30] <h3sp4wn_> eXCeSS: ati-driver-installer-8.26.18-x86.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper ?
[11:30] <Cntryboy> it's reg
[11:31] <gatekeeper> larson9999: well I suppose you could always reinstall them, but it doesn't sound too healthy :-)
[11:32] <h3sp4wn_> eXCeSS: If you are running the stock dapper kernel that is the way you should do it (then install the deb's it creates)
[11:32] <larson9999> gatekeeper: seems like funny dependencies there.  i want to upgrade ooo and it doesn't look like the repos are going to updated anytime soon
[11:32] <eXCeSS> ok, how do I do that build pkg thing becuase i run that it says "ati.run command not found" but it's there
[11:33] <gatekeeper> larson9999: new version got something you want?
[11:33] <larson9999> gatekeeper: yeah, faster and more compatibility with m$
[11:34] <larson9999> gatekeeper: making my resume in ooo and figured the more compatible the better
[11:34] <gatekeeper> larson9999: back your system up then go for it
[11:34] <larson9999> gatekeeper: backups? we don't need no stinking backups
[11:34] <gatekeeper> larson9999: have you seen the howto?
[11:35] <larson9999> on installing from ooo.org?  i've seen a couple.  which one are you referring to?
[11:35] <eXCeSS> i got it
[11:36] <bogdan_> gatekeeper:  it is working. thank you gatekeeper
[11:36] <gatekeeper> larson9999: I was thinking of the backup, so why don't you want to backup?
[11:36] <larson9999> gatekeeper: just joking.  i always have backups
[11:36] <gatekeeper> bogdan_: cool :-)
[11:36] <gatekeeper> larson9999: OK
[11:37] <larson9999> gatekeeper: i learned the backup lesson decades ago
[11:37] <gatekeeper> larson9999: if you have got backups then go for it, you noted the funny dependencies so one way or another doesn't matter :-)
[11:38] <coma> hey uhh....anyone know how to get stuff from ntfs?
[11:38] <fek> mount it
[11:38] <fek> but you should mount it only with ro
[11:39] <coma> ro?
[11:39] <LittleMe> hi
[11:39] <gatekeeper> larson9999: I am usiing this unless you know something better? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=HOWTO%3A+backup
[11:40] <fek> !ntfs
[11:40] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[11:40] <coma> tankoo :)
[11:42] <gatekeeper> coma: Xandos distro now reckons they can write to NTFS not sure what (k)ubuntu is doing different
[11:43] <larson9999> gatekeeper: i have 3 external hd's i use for backing up whole partitions and then run a script i got somewhere to back up certain directories daily.  that link looks good to me though.
[11:43] <coma> gatekeeper : kwl...i just want my stuff off ntfs so i can format, made the final step from windows to linux today and im determined to stick it
[11:44] <larson9999> gatekeeper: the ntfs driver that gparted uses claims to be stable.  i have backuped, restored, and resized lots of ntfs partitions with it and haven't had any problems.  their site talks about it
[11:44] <gatekeeper> coma: good for you! you won't regret it linux rocks :-)
[11:45] <gatekeeper> larson9999: does your script use tar or something else?
[11:45] <larson9999> coma gatekeeper tar
[11:46] <larson9999> coma: what channel do i know you from?
[11:47] <gatekeeper> larson9999: usefull to know thanx for all your info backup and NTFS thanx :-)
[11:47] <klerfayt> I want to enable smooth scrolling in konqueror but I do not know how it is done
[11:49] <Cntryboy> gotta go
[11:49] <Cntryboy> thx rawsewage
[11:49] <coma> larson : warzone ?
[11:54] <xadas> hi
[11:56] <hybrid> hello
[11:56] <LittleMe> hi
[12:00] <larson9999> coma: i don't know. i don't think we liked each other so much wherever it was :)  unless that was on another network and a different coma
[12:01] <bogdan_> someone here from ROMANIA ????
[12:01] <ihope> So just how well does Kubuntu function with 160MB of RAM?
[12:02] <gatekeeper> ihope: I have breezy working on a P3 with I think 128Mb RAM might be a bit slow but works :-)
[12:03] <mossman> Hello Everyone.  kbfx-0.4.9.2rc1 enlarges kicker to 3/4 the size of screen on kde 3.5.2 kubuntu Dapper ?  Any suggestions?
[12:03] <hybrid> ihope: Xubuntu would run like a champ
[12:03] <ihope> Xubuntu?
[12:03] <larson9999> Hawkwind: that's a PITA having to spell all the packages correctly.  hope i am missing something
[12:03] <ihope> How's that pronounced, exactly? :-P
[12:03] <RawSewage> zu
[12:04] <ihope> And isn't this icon labelled "Install" supposed to do something when I click it?
[12:04] <larson9999> Hawkwind: did you know about xubuntu?  isn't xfce the wm you run?
[12:05] <ihope> I have a virtual ISO in this virtual computer, and I'm trying to install Kubuntu onto its virtual hard drive...
[12:06] <ihope> ...I mean a virtual CD! Grr...
[12:06] <Pupeno> How do I change the language of a kword document ?
[12:07] <LittleMe> pupeno seach google for 'language translator' or 'language translation'
[12:07] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Absolutely not.  I run E17