[12:07] erm, I keep forgetting it may not seem logical if you don't have a software engineering background, sorry [12:09] but I managed to get a spec approved, I'm happy about that [12:10] takes a bit more than I thought [12:11] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureSpecifications is fair [12:12] have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_development_process if you're not familiar with it [12:22] uh ohj [12:22] http://packages.ubuntu.com/ <- the tab for Edgy point to Dapper [12:22] oops [12:22] dum dum DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM!!! (cue scary music) [12:23] time to go === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:26] hub: it's the diabolical scheme that Edgy Doesn't Yet Exist. [12:26] oh the humanity [12:37] yiha France's just won the semi-final!!! === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@CPE-124-178-8-74.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tiagoboldt [n=tiagobol@87-196-88-111.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:50] Toadstool: _just_ won? tu as un lag sur ta tl ? ;) === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-79-171.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:51] raphink: non non mais j'ai tran un peu dans le bar o j'tais, c'tait un peu le bordel pour sortir :) [12:51] ah oki [12:51] :) [12:51] bon allez au lit [12:51] bonne nuit [12:52] merci === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@CPE-124-178-8-74.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@CPE-124-178-8-74.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:26] grrr... is there a way to set REVU up not to display e-mails? ex: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2439 [01:26] my email is now in google, and now I just had a kaboom in spam. (~1 per month to 25 in 3 days...) [01:27] ryanakca: i get > 100 every day [01:27] because i have my firstname@gmail.com [01:27] and everybody with that first name thinks he owns the account [01:27] :) [01:27] and hands out the address to others, subscribes it to all sorts of junk, etc. [01:27] i don't use it for mail anymore [01:27] um [01:27] Spam Happens (TM) [01:27] get a filter [01:27] I thought I re-uploaded pax-utils a day or two ago [01:28] tseng: eh hunh [01:28] it hasn't hit revu, is this automated or is somebody doing this every week or what [01:28] tseng: gmail comes with a filter.. but the spam is random in this case.. even legit mails for those firstname guys are spam for me [01:29] bluefoxicy: did you reupload the entire source package? [01:29] crimsun: whatever "dput pax-utils_0.1.13-0ubuntu1_source.changes" does [01:29] depends on how you built it [01:29] bluefoxicy: did you build it with -sa? [01:29] I built it with -S -rfakeroot [01:30] that's why [01:30] ok, I'll try again. [01:30] -S -sa -rfakeroot [...] [01:30] damnidt [01:30] I typed my password into the gpg agent === bluefoxicy typed his gpg passphrase into gksu earlier trying to run synaptic [01:31] Already uploaded to revu.tauware.de [01:31] Doing nothing for pax-utils_0.1.13-0ubuntu1_source.changes [01:32] remove the .upload [01:33] or use -f [01:33] Uploading via ftp pax-utils_0.1.13-0ubuntu1.dsc: Error '553 Could not create file.' during ftp transfer of pax-utils_0.1.13-0ubuntu1.dsc [01:33] *thud* [01:34] sorry, not a REVU admin [01:34] yeah. I'll wait. [01:34] try again === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:35] I need to figure out that orig.tar.gz thing, I'm sure it doesn't want a thousand copies of that uploaded. At least it says it doesn't. [01:36] yes it does [01:40] ok I'll just wait for that to go through then. [01:43] please join https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-universe-contributors/+members [01:46] ... okay o.o === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chipmonk010 [n=chris@c-69-142-27-27.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dudus [n=dudus@200.245.14.253] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@ppp230-76.lns3.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mankey [i=mankey@tor/session/direct/x-052e5f0d89bb797f] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:35] the new amarok packages, from http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141, are similar to the ones in http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/, or are they more stable? [02:35] i mean, is the former repo more official than the latter? [02:35] "more official"? No. [02:36] crimsun: then why did i get a rss from kubuntu.org earlier today? [02:36] crimsun: as though it's something new [02:37] crimsun: oh, so for more stability i need to wait for a backports version? [02:38] mankey: http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/ should point to the latest. In this case, it's http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141/ [02:39] mankey: so "no, one is not more official than the other" since they're identical. [02:39] crimsun: you use KDE? [02:39] Laser_away: I use all the desktops in some fashion [02:40] sound doesn't care what DE is being used. It's either functional and audible, or it's broken. [02:40] heh, do you have a primary one? I thought you used KDE a lot but couldn't remember [02:41] I use screen mostly, followed by GNOME/KDE/whatever [02:42] cool, similar here === duro [n=duro@216.230.150.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === duro is now known as Duro_De_Peinar === Xnix [n=xnix@n157s046.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === scundi [n=jundir@137.111.165.11] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pschulz01 [n=paul@150.101.6.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:58] hi all [03:59] hey [04:00] hi Hobbsee === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:03] hey zul and LaserJock :) [04:03] Hey Hobbsee. [04:03] hi TheMuso [04:09] afternoon all [04:09] hi stranger [04:11] hi all, any word on when the next 'revu day' is? [04:12] I think people are working on it [04:12] organising a day? ahh ok [04:13] how does it work, is it a meet on irc, or real life... [04:13] that and MOTUs trying to work through the review [04:13] presumably that'll be after all the syncs and all that? [04:13] a lot of revu stuff currently is merges, iirc... [04:13] just a day for MOTUs can focus on REVU [04:13] there are a lot of NEW packages on REVU [04:14] scundi: not in real life [04:14] we need to focus on stuff that will be affected by UVF since that is on the 13th [04:14] rightio, ta [04:14] what's uvf? [04:14] Upstream Version Freeze === scundi looks up wiki [04:15] that point at wich we don't take new upstream versions and the automatic merge/sync process stops [04:15] scundi: wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule [04:17] imbrandon: ping? [04:17] ping [04:17] err pong [04:17] lol [04:17] whatever, you're alive [04:17] heh yea , and kickin tonight wasup bro ? [04:18] oops just noticved the PM [04:18] i dont see queriers easy , one sec === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:22] crud [04:23] more font packages are screaming at me [04:25] Heya gang [04:26] hello bddebian [04:26] ajmitch!!! Where ya been man? [04:27] bddebian: that's bad when Keybuk says stuff like that ;-) [04:27] bddebian: the great lost continent of Four-Ecks [04:27] LaserJock: Aye, no shit :-) Hi btw [04:27] ajmitch: Ahh [04:28] four ecks? [04:28] sure [04:29] otherwise known as australia [04:29] heh...oh yeah...penal colony ;) === Hobbsee murders zul, as we're a bunch of convicts who know no better. [04:30] Oh and here all this time I thought it was the penile colony [04:30] Hobbsee: lol === nixternal [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o Hobbsee] by ChanServ === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has left #ubuntu-motu [requested] === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o Hobbsee] by ChanServ === Hobbsee has had enough sex jokes to last a long while! [04:33] heh [04:34] poor bddebian ;-) [04:35] LaserJock: heh === Amaranth_ [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:44] Man, Hobbsee is a chanserv? How frightening.. :-) [04:44] hehe. [04:44] bddebian: in multiple places, yes. [04:45] bddebian: learn to never get on the wrong side of Hobbsee [04:45] Aye [04:45] you mean ther'es a right side? [04:46] Of course there is. :) [04:47] heh [04:47] gotta be === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@ppp18-100.lns2.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:34] hi all [05:34] hi zakame! [05:38] Heya zakame, jsgotangco [05:44] heya Hobbsee bddebian [05:44] back home now === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:16] moins zakame [06:17] Heya imbrandon [06:17] heya db [06:17] err bddebian [06:17] heh [06:17] damm tab complete ;) [06:17] heh === Rotund [n=joe@d17-110.rb.lax.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Snake [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-147-107.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:44] Gnight folks === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [n=cypher@59.92.145.201] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukkett1 [n=lukketto@host178-159.pool871.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukkett1 [n=lukketto@host178-159.pool871.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === lukkett1 [n=lukketto@host178-159.pool871.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c211-28-181-26.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:21] anyone around to upload to universe? maybe Gloubiboulga? [08:22] Hobbsee: when are you going to go to TB ? [08:22] we're around, but the daemon's down. [08:22] raphink: no idea [08:22] crimsun: ah ok, so it's down for everyone then. [08:22] i.e., no one will be able to upload === Hobbsee glares. [08:22] yeah [08:22] what on earth is with this package. [08:23] dpkg-source: error: file knmap_2.1.orig.tar.gz has size 1705099 instead of expected 1705259 <-- odd. think this one's having trouble. === Lure_ [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:30] raphink: dont know when i'm going to TB - probably when it's at a sane time. [08:30] Hobbsee: did you download that from the archive? [08:31] shawarma: yeah, i grabbed the debian current, which fixed the package whihc had been packaged wrongly in the previous version. it's wokring now :) === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:31] Hobbsee: If the info in the .dsc doesn't match the files, something is very wrong somewhere. [08:32] Hobbsee: I see. Nevertheless, the orig.tar.gz should be the same in Ubuntu and Debian. [08:32] shawarma: i think i was grabbing the debian.dsc against the ubuntu .orig.tar.gz, cos it was repackaged [08:32] as it was originally bz2'd [08:32] err, don't do that. [08:32] that's usually where the discrepancy arises [08:32] crimsun: tht's what grab-merge grabbed. [08:33] it grabbed the bz2? [08:33] crimsun: no, but the last version was a bz2 from upstream, so ubuntu repackaged it [08:33] so the ubuntu dsc wouldnt have the same size as the now later released .tar.gz? [08:33] same orig.tar.gz filename? === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:34] crimsun: i believe so [08:34] yeah, you'll need to grab the orig.tar.gz from Ubuntu, then [08:34] once the bz2 was converted, of course it was [08:34] crimsun: if i'm requesting a sync for this anyway, wont all of the ubuntu stuff be ignored, and the debian unstable package be brought to ubuntu? [08:35] Hobbsee: if the same orig.tar.gz version is used, then only the diff.gz, dsc, and source.changes will be [08:35] hmmm. === Hobbsee thinks that it isnt hte same .orig.tar.gz, but it's named as if it is. [08:36] that's what i suspect, anyway. [08:36] oh man, do they always have TB meetings at 2000UTC? [08:38] Hobbsee, yes [08:38] oh grr. [08:38] pity [08:40] raphink: that's the answer then. when i'm really really awake. [08:40] early === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B2249.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:42] good morning === Hobbsee waves to dholbach === dholbach hugs Hobbsee === Hobbsee hugs dholbach [08:43] dholbach: i've been merging :) [08:43] i noticed! :) [08:50] hehe [08:50] dholbach: i saw i only had two merges for june! shameful! [08:50] s/june/july [08:50] i have none at all! === jsgotangco grins [08:51] crimsun: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/knmap/+bug/52053 [08:51] Malone bug 52053 in knmap "[Edgy MoM] Please sync version 2.1-1 from Debian Sid" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] [08:51] crimsun: thanks [08:51] jsgotangco: bad! :P [08:53] Hobbsee: I'm pretty sure they can't take the orig.tar.gz [08:53] crimsun: well, bleh, okay. [08:55] Hobbsee: go ahead and reject it, then do the merging manually, pretending there's a real delta. [08:55] crimsun: argh, drat. debian and ubuntu versions of the same file are really both different sizes. [08:55] so it'll be 2.1-1ubuntu1 [08:55] crimsun: oh does that end up working? [08:55] well, yeah, it won't be a sync from the archive's perspective, but it will be a sync for all practical purposes [08:55] crimsun: what happens next version then? [08:56] Hobbsee: you have to continue this fake syncing until the next orig.tar.gz [08:56] Hobbsee: like 2.1a, 2.1.1, or 2.2, ... [08:56] crimsun: right, yep. so i take ubuntu's orig.tar.gz, and effectively sync it? [08:56] then you can request a proper sync from Debian [08:57] well, you'll have to actually merge the changelog entries. [08:57] right [08:57] yeah === highvoltage [n=jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:00] Hobbsee: http://www.buntudot.org/2006/07/06/buntudotorg-radio-podcast-2/ posted ( with LaserJock Interview ) [09:00] imbrandon: nice okay :) === damned [n=vpol@prior.lanck.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:18] <\sh> moins === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:25] Anyone care to take a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2555 ? === Arr0gance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-83-156.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:31] Hmm... guess not. :-) [09:31] shawarma: in debian/copyright, the phrase "Any code not declared GPL is free for all uses" is ambiguous [09:32] crimsun: It's taken directly from the source file. [09:32] please ask for clarification if the author{,s} are reachable [09:32] How is it ambiguous? [09:33] for the precise reason that "free for all uses" does not explicitly state what precisely that freedom entails === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@ppp37-230.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:33] you might as well relicense it to gpl then, all code is GPL :p [09:34] are those portions public domain? are they free but with some restriction like "you can't use this code to assassinate presidents"? [09:34] I'm not sure I see what you mean. Could you give an example of what you're not sure would be allowed? It makes it easier for me when phrasing the question to upstream. [09:35] hmm... I don't see how you could possibly be in doubt as to whether or not it'd be allowed to assassinate presidents with it when it says "free for all uses".. [09:36] free for all uses doesn't cover for-profit [09:36] it also doesn't cover redistribution of source and/or binary === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:37] the reason is that "free for all uses" is so contextually loaded [09:43] I suppose. [09:53] good morning everybody === antinobody [n=sean@71-214-89-116.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === screeb [n=screeb@pons2.rez-rennes.supelec.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dsas [n=dean@host86-129-20-199.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-253-223.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-100-190.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === damned [n=vpol@prior.lanck.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === damned [n=vpol@prior.lanck.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] [10:43] crimsun: I just thought of something. Since the version of dcraw included in rawstudio also includes the GPL parts, the rest must effectively be GPL, right? [10:45] shawarma: the rest of what? [10:45] crimsun: the rest of the source code. [10:45] according to the copyright, it is GPLed === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:46] the only thing that /may/ be an issue is the wording "free for all uses", which simply needs to be clarified. [10:46] that's it. [10:46] Right. I'll figure something out. thanks for your help! [10:48] np === paniq [n=braniq@213.83.35.136] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DanielC [n=daniel@82.151.249.90.adsl.griffin.net.uk] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-g4 [n=freeflyi@221.221.153.56] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AFFF5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tiagoboldt [n=tiagobol@87-196-113-76.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks_ [n=ivoks@lns01-1668.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tiagoboldt [n=tiagobol@87-196-113-76.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-234.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:07] Hi! [12:09] I am trying to package e-smith for ubuntu (originaly desinged for CentOS) [12:09] The changelogs I have doesn't match the debian standards === Hobbsee___ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:10] hi screeb [12:10] Anyone knows what I should do (rewrite all the changelogs?) [12:10] what do you mean by that? [12:11] debian/changelog is maintained separately of ChangeLog, CHANGES or whatever the upstream changelog is called === Hobbsee_1 [n=hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-234.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pygi_ [n=pygi@83-131-241-75.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:14] so debian/changelogs should only deals with the changes I made? [12:14] yes. [12:14] ok :) [12:14] one entry per revision [12:15] install devscripts and use dch -i -Dedgy [12:16] ok, thanks === dsas [n=dean@host86-129-22-252.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mukund [n=mukund@62.3.217.116] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-242-161.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-254-158.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dredg [n=niall@80.169.137.162] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pygi_ [n=pygi@83-131-241-151.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@62.114.91.67] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:39] I have a problem with packaging, the Makefile has this line: install -m 4711 file destdir [01:40] which sets the file with +s mode [01:40] now, after I create the deb package & install it, the file is not in that mode, why is that ? [01:41] dh_fixperms removes the sticky bits [01:41] use -X option if you really want it [01:41] but consider thrice if you really need it ... [01:41] indeed [01:41] ok [01:41] thanks === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has left #ubuntu-motu ["chapo] [01:47] ok === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:51] thanks [01:54] ok, I the package I am adding, I see that mandrake has added some stuff to it, am I allowed to import that or not ? === Gazer [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _ZuZuu_ [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-58-174.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:15] hey === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === erez [n=erez@89-138-122-106.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.225.217] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:38] in the Common mistakes [02:39] it says that I should NOT change the source tarball even if the directory layout is not in package-version format [02:40] I did that but when I run debuild I get this tarball: package_version-revision.tar.gz [02:42] move the originial tarball to package_version.orig.tar.gz === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:42] hi people [02:42] unpack it, add debian/ dir, then debuild -S [02:42] that will give you a nice .diff.gz [02:43] oh yes, I found my mistake [02:43] I named it package-version.orig.tar.gz instead of _ ! [02:43] thanks [02:53] Does somebody have time to review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2615 ? [02:54] lionelp: i'll have a look [02:54] thanks phanatic [02:54] cool package name btw ;) [02:54] ha. hahaha. oh god. [02:55] try not to restart *that* flamewar that hot-babe caused on debian-devel :) [02:55] :) [02:55] phanatic: it's a cool software used by my collegues, so i decided to package it :) [02:56] nice :) === iceman_ [n=iceman@29.170-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:03] i'd rather see real women tho ;) [03:03] :) [03:04] lionelp: just a small issue, see my comments :) [03:06] Ok, thanks [03:06] lionelp: you're aware that the package has been deemed inappropriate in the past? [03:06] hum... no :) [03:06] it has. [03:07] Ok, so we have to forget it, right ? [03:07] yes, please. [03:07] No problem ! [03:08] cheers. === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:12] heh [03:12] oops :) === pygi_ [n=pygi@83-131-233-71.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-234-148.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nexu [n=nexu@a80-126-56-145.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sivang_ [i=sivan@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:48] Heya gang [03:48] hi bddebian [03:48] Hi Hobbsee [03:48] Hobbsee: I see you got knights working :-) [03:48] bddebian: yeah. somehow. === Hobbsee has forgotten how now. [03:48] bddebian: oh yeah, now i remember.... [03:49] bddebian: ajmitch had suggested taking one of the sets of double brackets out in the rules, then it worked fine. [03:49] Nice [03:50] hi gang [03:50] hey bddebian, Hobbsee, zakame :) [03:51] hi phanatic and zakame [03:51] hi zakame [03:51] Hi zakame, phanatic, zul [03:51] hey [03:52] heya phanatic Hobbsee zul bddebian [03:52] heh [03:52] @ hi zul [03:52] too many Z names. [03:53] yes we are taking over === Hobbsee considers naming herself Zarah. === ajmitch will stay as ajmitch{,_} [03:54] its a cult [03:54] like girl guides [03:56] Nice, another desktop file gets added in Debian === Sp4rKy [i=max@tor/session/direct/x-955c13b40f3f717e] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:03] hey motus === linuxmonkey [n=linuxmon@unaffiliated/LinuxMonkey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@167.246.8.60] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:04] today i start packaging of torsmo and autoscan :) === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:09] hmm what's the current merging procedure now? Do I still follow the old procedure in Dapper? [04:10] see topic - general practice is grabbing merges where you last touched the package, afaik === freeflying-g4 [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:12] well I just saw MOTU/merges and its still very much the old process, just confirming [04:19] zakame: merge-o-matic makes merging a lot easier [04:22] Hobbsee: I still dont use MoM [04:22] i am old school [04:23] tseng: i never said you had to, i said it makes it easier (often, anyway) :P [04:23] ajmitch: don't be so harsh on zakame, he's $2500 richer now [04:23] I used to do it completely from memory when I was the only guy doing mono [04:23] which is a *LOT* of money here === jsgotangco beams [04:25] poor zakame [04:26] party at zakame's place [04:30] tseng: Me either, it's a pain :-) [04:31] bddebian: finally, someone agrees [04:31] I think it's more steps that grabbing the Debian package and manually merging in our changes :-) [04:31] checking for XOpenDisplay in -lX11... no [04:31] checking for XdbeQueryExtension in -lXext... no [04:31] what must i add to B-d ? [04:32] libx11 libxext? [04:32] libx11-dev && libxext-dev, isn't it ?? [04:32] right. === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pygi_ [n=pygi@83-131-234-148.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:35] ajmitch, zul: lol [04:36] Go Sp4rKy, go Sp4rKy ;-) [04:37] bddebian, thx :) [04:37] bddebian, i'm packaging torsmo [04:37] i've a few strange issue ... [04:39] bddebian, checking for XOpenDisplay in -lX11... no [04:39] checking for XdbeQueryExtension in -lXext... no [04:39] what package must i include ? === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.225.220] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pygi_ [n=pygi@83-131-234-148.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:40] I need help regarding patches [04:40] in the Ubuntu help it says, that if I am to modify anything in the source , I should put it in debian/patches [04:41] I did the steps [04:41] all until putting the patches list in 00list [04:41] now, how do I instruct the debian packager to apply those patches ? [04:42] Sp4rKy: Didn't tseng just answer you? :-) [04:42] oups, i didn't see [04:43] but is it libx11 or libx11-dev ? [04:43] -dev [04:43] and you figured it out for yourself [04:43] AnAnt: Depends on the packaging system. If it's dpatch, it should get picked up automagically if its in 00list [04:43] why ask twice? [04:43] :-) [04:43] tseng, bddebian i've already add them to B-D but doesn't work any more [04:44] then you should ask us about that [04:44] bddebian: I did use dpatch [04:44] bddebian: but when I ran pbuilder it did not apply the patches [04:44] tseng, sorry :( [04:46] bddebian: so I shouldn't add anything in the rules file ? [04:46] AnAnt: dpatch is a build-dep, isnt it? [04:46] AnAnt: If it has ../foo/bar/dpatch.mk in the rules, no. Do you know that any of the patches are getting applied? [04:47] Hobbsee: yes, it is in Build-Depends [04:48] bddebian: no it does not have any dpatch in the rules file [04:49] there is no mugshot package in edgy? === robitaille [i=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] bddebian: so how should I add it ? [04:57] AnAnt: If you are using CDBS, add the following line to rules: rules/dpatch.mk [04:57] With the proper path of course [04:58] what if I used debhelper ? [04:58] AnAnt: dpatch has documentation on how to use it in debian/rules AFAIK [04:58] Then you have use use somethign like dpatch apply-all [04:59] ic [04:59] thx === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p50802DC7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:06] Heya azeem [05:06] hi Barry [05:12] ok, I did that, I am getting this: applying patch 01_description to ./ ... failed. [05:13] AnAnt: Then your patch is wrong :-) Did you use dpatch-edit-patch to create it? [05:13] err, hang on, I think I know the mistake === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.211.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:17] re [05:17] Heya Toadstool === Sp4rKy [i=max@tor/session/direct/x-e69d1ca491210d2f] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:17] hi bddebian === Sp4rKy [i=max@tor/session/direct/x-70db34ee83e20750] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MadMan2k [n=pavel@L0078.l.pppool.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:23] I guess I should avoid installing things in /usr/local? (packaging gimp 2.3.10 right now) [05:25] I am getting an error when I run "dpatch call-all -a=pkg-info >patch-stamp" : 01_description.dpatch: script expects -patch|-unpatch as argument [05:26] AnAnt: I don't think you need call-all but I am no dpatch expert [05:26] ok [05:26] ls [05:26] :-) [05:26] MadMan2k: using stow might help [05:29] right now im installing it to /opt and copying making gimp-2.3 in /usr/bin/ and /usr/share/applications === _ZuZuu_ [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-5-177.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:33] http://pastebin.ca/80570 [05:33] this is my issue during pbuild of torsmo === stratus [n=ubuntu@200.165.55.21] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:34] Sp4rKy: You are missing a build-dep somewhere [05:35] Do you have xlibs-dev or whatever it is now? [05:35] i've added xlibs-deb , libx11-dev and libxext-dev [05:35] :) [05:36] i've added them :) [05:36] try looking for the old xlibs-split script somewhere, that also tells good x build-deps [05:37]