| bluekuja__ | cya :) | 12:12 |
|---|---|---|
| pygi | night | 12:12 |
| === bluekuja__ is now known as bluekuja_laptop | ||
| cbx33 | ogra, I should have all lisas stuff sorted by tomorrow morning about 7 am | 12:34 |
| cbx33 | then I'll get her to sign the CoC and we're away | 12:34 |
| ogra | cbx33, ok, tell me when she subscribed to the ubuntu-art ML, then i'll announce her (she should probably follow up and introduce herself :) ) | 12:36 |
| cbx33 | YES | 12:37 |
| cbx33 | THAT'LL BE TOMORROW | 12:37 |
| cbx33 | whoops | 12:37 |
| cbx33 | sorry | 12:38 |
| ogra | wow, that was an 1h upload for kdeedu | 12:38 |
| ogra | yay, i'm done with my two nightmare packges :) | 12:38 |
| cbx33 | :D | 12:38 |
| === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| bimberi | !ubotu | 01:02 |
| ubotu | I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage | 01:02 |
| bimberi | LaserJock: well it's here :) | 01:02 |
| LaserJock | hanks :-) | 01:03 |
| LaserJock | *thanks | 01:03 |
| === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| bimberi | %editors | 01:19 |
| ubotu | Seveas, gnomefreak, apokryphos, ompaul, thoreauputic, Hobbsee, Amaranth, bimberi, nalioth, Madpilot, LjL, Riddell, imbrandon, uniq | 01:19 |
| bimberi | gah, apologies for the unnecessary ping | 01:21 |
| LaserJock | dang it, I forgot the sft syntax for bzr bush | 01:21 |
| LaserJock | bimberi: hehe | 01:21 |
| crimsun | for what? | 01:21 |
| LaserJock | sftp:// blah blah blah | 01:22 |
| LaserJock | I keep getting parent directory doesn't exist | 01:22 |
| crimsun | bzr push --create-prefix sftp://login@bazaar.launchpad.net/~group/product/branch/ | 01:23 |
| crimsun | (at least I presume you meant push and not bush, which doesn't appear to be valid) | 01:24 |
| bimberi | lol i was wondering if there was a 'bush' command and what it would do | 01:24 |
| LaserJock | doh, didn't even see that | 01:24 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: hmm, should --create-prefix be needed for an existing branch? | 01:25 |
| crimsun | no, why? | 01:28 |
| crimsun | what's the syntax you're using? | 01:28 |
| jsgotangco | good morning | 01:29 |
| LaserJock | bzr push sftp://login@host/absolute/path/ | 01:29 |
| jsgotangco | that should work | 01:29 |
| LaserJock | hi jsgotangco | 01:29 |
| crimsun | well, are you sure the path actually /does/ exist? | 01:30 |
| crimsun | log in via sftp and check | 01:30 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 01:30 |
| LaserJock | I mean I cd'd to the directory | 01:30 |
| LaserJock | and did pwd to get the absolute path part | 01:31 |
| crimsun | it should be relative to the sftp root. | 01:31 |
| LaserJock | but it comes back to me very quickly, like it isn't even talking to the host | 01:31 |
| LaserJock | what does that mean exactly? | 01:32 |
| LaserJock | I'm trying everything I can think of and get the same thing | 01:32 |
| crimsun | and you have python2.4-paramiko installed, correct? | 01:32 |
| LaserJock | I think so | 01:33 |
| crimsun | err, that's not a good sign ;) | 01:33 |
| LaserJock | well, it's on OS X so it's a bit different ;-) | 01:33 |
| crimsun | argh | 01:33 |
| crimsun | silly non-free OSes | 01:33 |
| crimsun | ;) | 01:33 |
| LaserJock | it's bzr 0.8.2 through fink | 01:34 |
| LaserJock | maybe I'll try it from a real OS ;-) | 01:34 |
| LaserJock | bah, bzr really is silly for this kind of thing :/ | 01:35 |
| crimsun | why /are/ you using bzr? | 01:35 |
| jsgotangco | what are you using it for? | 01:35 |
| LaserJock | doc team repo :-) | 01:35 |
| jsgotangco | feh | 01:35 |
| jsgotangco | good luck | 01:36 |
| crimsun | fun. | 01:36 |
| jsgotangco | but personally i used bzr in LP for my own repo | 01:36 |
| LaserJock | I was going to freshen it up since jjesse actually wanted to try it out today | 01:36 |
| jsgotangco | of docbook files | 01:36 |
| crimsun | unless you used aptitude to install bzr, though, you'll get that error | 01:36 |
| LaserJock | really? it's paramiko? | 01:36 |
| crimsun | unless os x has some funky way of installing [or includes] python2.4-paramiko | 01:37 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 01:37 |
| crimsun | because without python2.4-paramiko, python don't grok no sftp. | 01:37 |
| crimsun | I ran into this when I first started maintaining packages in bzr | 01:37 |
| jsgotangco | i think paramiko is the only way to be able to publish via sftp at the moment | 01:38 |
| LaserJock | installing now :-) | 01:38 |
| crimsun | no pony for you! | 01:38 |
| LaserJock | they could've put a better error messege like, "You dope, your stupid OS didn't include paramiko" | 01:38 |
| jsgotangco | LaserJock: its all in the bzr wiki | 01:38 |
| jsgotangco | no pony for you! | 01:39 |
| crimsun | dude, definitely no pony. | 01:39 |
| LaserJock | ah, that's better | 01:39 |
| LaserJock | well, you figure when the make these packages that the include the neccesary deps :-) | 01:40 |
| LaserJock | shame on me | 01:40 |
| jsgotangco | it doesnt assume you will publish in sftp for starters so | 01:40 |
| LaserJock | that's kinda dumb, IMNSHO | 01:40 |
| ogra | Recommends: python2.4-paramiko | 01:41 |
| ogra | ;) | 01:41 |
| LaserJock | ogra: right, which helps only if you are using aptitude or wait for edgy from what I've seen | 01:41 |
| jsgotangco | ;) | 01:41 |
| LaserJock | I hate being stuck in OS X all the time | 01:42 |
| LaserJock | I wouldn't mind dual booting even | 01:42 |
| ogra | well, recommends also says "this package works without it, so we dont depend tightly on it" | 01:42 |
| jsgotangco | You can simply use rsync to copy your branch to a web server, but using bzr push is the easiest way. Note that to use sftp, your need to install paramiko and pyCrypto. See Installation page in the wiki. | 01:42 |
| jsgotangco | http://bazaar-vcs.org/QuickHackingWithBzr | 01:42 |
| jsgotangco | LaserJock: ^^ | 01:42 |
| LaserJock | right, so you can do all the distributed revision control you want, you just can't get it off your box :-) | 01:42 |
| ogra | sure, with rsync :) | 01:43 |
| LaserJock | right, but the point is that bzr doesn't seem to really care about remote usage very much | 01:43 |
| jsgotangco | troll all you want the bzr wiki sure needs organizational love though | 01:43 |
| LaserJock | hopefully it gets better, cause it really rocks | 01:43 |
| LaserJock | I'm no troll :-) | 01:44 |
| jsgotangco | except when you use it with lp atm | 01:44 |
| jsgotangco | and have 600+ revisions | 01:44 |
| jsgotangco | then open up bzrk | 01:44 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 01:44 |
| LaserJock | I just don't understand how I'm supposed to efficently use bzr for things that aren't local and have more than like 10 revisions | 01:44 |
| jsgotangco | if you dont need to refer to past code, you don't need something that gives you all revisions i guess | 01:45 |
| LaserJock | hmm, well I have no idea what I just did to the doc team bzr repo, but it kinda worked, I think :-) | 01:48 |
| jsgotangco | you imported the whole history? | 01:48 |
| LaserJock | heck no | 01:48 |
| LaserJock | I tried | 01:48 |
| LaserJock | but we are over 3000 commits and tailor barfed after like 100 | 01:49 |
| jsgotangco | well it shouldn't be hard to create a new bzr mainline it just works | 01:49 |
| LaserJock | and it didn't seem to like the idea of starting at 2000 either | 01:49 |
| jsgotangco | it doesnt make any sense too | 01:50 |
| crimsun | with dapper's tailor? | 01:50 |
| === jsgotangco wonders how the kernel was moved from bitkeeper to git | ||
| LaserJock | no, I downloaded it from the website | 01:50 |
| crimsun | I know dapper's tailor is one package revision behind what's necessary to have it work with dapper's bzr | 01:51 |
| crimsun | (d'oh!) | 01:52 |
| === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| LaserJock | hmm, so I did a bzr push and then on the server did bzr commit so now I have 2 commits for the same thing | 01:52 |
| LaserJock | I'm obviously missing something | 01:52 |
| LaserJock | oh wait, maybe not | 01:53 |
| LaserJock | it's just weird | 01:53 |
| crimsun | welcome to decentralised vcs | 01:53 |
| bddebian | Heya | 01:53 |
| jsgotangco | its fun | 01:53 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: honestly, the more I use bzr the more I'm confused :-) | 01:53 |
| === jsgotangco learned a lot on decentralised vcs with g-a-i and u-m | ||
| LaserJock | aaanyway, bzr rocks for these little projects I'm doing, it's just a pain in the put to be hauling around 200MB for the doc team repo | 01:58 |
| LaserJock | s/put/butt/ ;-) | 01:58 |
| LaserJock | ack, time for me to go home | 01:58 |
| crimsun | now imagine several kernel trees. | 01:58 |
| === LaserJock runs away | ||
| === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away | ||
| === TalentedChimp [n=paul@125.240.170.130] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === TalentedChimp [n=paul@125.240.170.130] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === mhz sighs and wishes there was an e-Groupware in python and Php independant : \ | ||
| === lecaros [n=JoseLeca@5-13-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === sbalneav [i=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| sbalneav | Hello edubuntu! Everyone's favorite rotund Canadian has arrived! | 04:53 |
| lecaros | hi sbalneav | 04:53 |
| sbalneav | Hello hello! | 04:53 |
| mhz | hehehe | 04:55 |
| mhz | you are not my favorite candian | 04:55 |
| bddebian | mhz: Celine Dion is? | 05:00 |
| === bddebian hides | ||
| sbalneav | But I bet I'm your favorite ROTUND canadian :) | 05:00 |
| mhz | hehehe | 05:02 |
| === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock | ||
| jsgotangco | hahaha | 05:20 |
| === TalentedChimp [n=paul@125.240.170.130] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === Zaire [n=foxfire@static24-72-92-91.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away | ||
| === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === bimberi_ [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| cbx33 | can we sign 1.0.1 yeT? | 07:10 |
| cbx33 | ping jsgotangco / ogra | 07:14 |
| jsgotangco | hello | 07:14 |
| cbx33 | lisa is now ubuntero | 07:14 |
| cbx33 | feel free to activate | 07:14 |
| jsgotangco | thanks | 07:14 |
| jsgotangco | cbx33: its done thanks | 07:16 |
| === bimberi_ is now known as bimberi | ||
| cbx33 | i know :p | 07:17 |
| cbx33 | just got the mail | 07:17 |
| jsgotangco | being husband and wife i think you should sign both of your keys | 07:17 |
| === jsgotangco grins | ||
| === cbx33 will be doing that later | ||
| cbx33 | although someone at my lug once laughed at me for saying that :p | 07:18 |
| cbx33 | WOW GL Runs SMOOOOOTH on my new dapper | 07:18 |
| cbx33 | XGL + Compiz too :D | 07:18 |
| jsgotangco | yuck | 07:19 |
| cbx33 | I've never seen it run so good | 07:19 |
| cbx33 | fedora blows | 07:19 |
| crimsun | what is a ubuntero? | 07:20 |
| cbx33 | signed the CoC | 07:20 |
| crimsun | Ubuntero: Not yet | 07:20 |
| crimsun | well that's ... funny. | 07:20 |
| jsgotangco | basically someone who has signed the CoC | 07:21 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 07:21 |
| cbx33 | why have you already signed it? | 07:21 |
| cbx33 | :p | 07:21 |
| bimberi | what? surely not? gasp! | 07:21 |
| crimsun | I'm core-dev. Kinda a prereq. | 07:21 |
| cbx33 | yeh swat i thougt | 07:21 |
| crimsun | there. | 07:25 |
| crimsun | I just had to sign 1.0.1 | 07:25 |
| === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === mhz signed CoC long ago | ||
| mhz | and even translated CoC into spanish | 07:30 |
| mhz | but that was old version | 07:30 |
| === mhz is now known as mhz_zzZZ | ||
| bimberi | mhz_zzZZ: you're shown as 'Not Yet' too | 07:36 |
| mhz_zzZZ | ??? | 07:36 |
| mhz_zzZZ | bimberi: where? | 07:36 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 07:36 |
| jsgotangco | meh! me too! | 07:37 |
| === jsgotangco will do it later | ||
| bimberi | https://launchpad.net/people/mhz | 07:37 |
| lecaros | mhz bimberi's right | 07:38 |
| bimberi | i think version 1.0.1 of the CoC has been around for a while but it's only recent that signing it has been required to stay as an Ubuntero | 07:38 |
| jsgotangco | lp should have aleterted people or it probably has | 07:39 |
| jsgotangco | dunno | 07:39 |
| jsgotangco | no dramas though can be fixed later | 07:39 |
| mhz_zzZZ | hmm, interesting | 07:39 |
| bimberi | i don't recall | 07:40 |
| === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@nat-pool-bos.redhat.com] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| bimberi | ... any notification | 07:40 |
| mhz_zzZZ | yeah, well, it is time to sign the 101 | 07:40 |
| bimberi | but yes, no dramas :) | 07:40 |
| mhz_zzZZ | though, there should be a kind of announcement | 07:40 |
| mhz_zzZZ | maybe in Newsletter? | 07:40 |
| mhz_zzZZ | anyways...as in Mike Patton's words, "my life is falling to pieces, somebody put me together" | 07:42 |
| mhz_zzZZ | i gotta get some sleep | 07:42 |
| mhz_zzZZ | bye ayou all | 07:42 |
| lecaros | me too... | 07:49 |
| lecaros | good night | 07:49 |
| === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-250-205.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === highvoltage [n=jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ | ||
| === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage | ||
| === highvoltage sees at least two edubuntu specs approved :) | ||
| pygi | highvoltage, link to edgy specs pls? :) | 08:32 |
| === Zaire [n=foxfire@static24-72-92-91.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| highvoltage | pygi: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+specs | 08:40 |
| pygi | highvoltage, I wanted edgy specs, but found it, thanks ^_^ | 08:40 |
| highvoltage | pygi: i mean, https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-paris/+specs | 08:40 |
| highvoltage | ok :) | 08:40 |
| === Zaire [n=foxfire@static24-72-92-91.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === RobinShepheard [n=robins@81.17.65.2] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === Zaire is now known as Zaire_inUT2k4 | ||
| === sankar [n=sankarsh@nat-pool-bos.redhat.com] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === Zaire_inUT2k4 is now known as Zaire | ||
| RobinShepheard | hi all | 10:02 |
| jsgotangco | hi RobinShepheard | 10:03 |
| === sankar is now known as sankarshan | ||
| RobinShepheard | hiya jsgotangco | 10:03 |
| RobinShepheard | how are you?? | 10:03 |
| RobinShepheard | can someone point me to information about time plans for the release of alpha/beta cd's for edgy if there is anything about?? | 10:08 |
| RobinShepheard | I have just done a search on the edubuntu wiki and can't see anything relevant | 10:08 |
| RobinShepheard | all I can find is a date of september 28th for beta release, will that be the first release?? | 10:10 |
| === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === pygi_ [n=pygi@83-131-234-127.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === pygi_ is now known as pygi | ||
| === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| pygi | RobinShepheard, I'll need to have a talk with you later today | 11:06 |
| RobinShepheard | pygi, ok, am I in trouble?? | 11:06 |
| DanielC | heh | 11:06 |
| pygi | yes, you are | 11:06 |
| RobinShepheard | when would you like to talk?? | 11:07 |
| pygi | RobinShepheard, when I'm back :P | 11:07 |
| RobinShepheard | lol ok, any idea as to a rough time frame?? | 11:07 |
| pygi | no :P | 11:08 |
| RobinShepheard | ok | 11:08 |
| === Yagisan [n=jamie@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| RobinShepheard | I will be popping out for lunch (30 mins) in about 2.5-3 hours and then leaving to go home in about 7hours, but anytime during that timescale is fine | 11:09 |
| pygi | no worries | 11:09 |
| pygi | RobinShepheard, I will post something to edu-dev list also | 11:11 |
| RobinShepheard | pygi, what about the chat?? | 11:12 |
| pygi | RobinShepheard, that will later :P | 11:12 |
| pygi | AS I said, gotta run now :) | 11:13 |
| RobinShepheard | ok see you later pygi | 11:13 |
| === Vego [n=vegard@195.159.157.54] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === chrismo [n=chris@rdlax10-b226.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === perper [n=simenaf@193.71.119.207] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-229-222.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-229-222.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| RobinShepheard | pygi, ready when you are | 12:41 |
| === pygi_ [n=pygi@83-131-229-222.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| jsgotangco | hmm | 12:43 |
| jsgotangco | what's done is done no more dramas i'd say | 12:43 |
| pygi | jsgotangco, I agree | 12:43 |
| RobinShepheard | I have tried to correct the situation as best as I can, and shall do my best to see that it doesn't happen again | 12:44 |
| RobinShepheard | I believe that I have made it clear in my emails that I am directly responsible and that no blame sits with anyone else | 12:45 |
| RobinShepheard | and that no slight was ment to anyone or any project | 12:46 |
| RobinShepheard | *meant | 12:46 |
| pygi | RobinShepheard, don't worry ^_^ | 12:46 |
| jsgotangco | yep no worries | 12:46 |
| RobinShepheard | so am I still allowed to contribute to the handbook?? | 12:53 |
| pygi | RobinShepheard, 'fcorse ^_^ | 12:53 |
| RobinShepheard | ok I did just want to check | 12:53 |
| RobinShepheard | it was a fairly serious mistake | 12:54 |
| pygi | we all make mistakes, be shh ^_^ | 12:54 |
| RobinShepheard | ok | 12:54 |
| RobinShepheard | pygi, I notice you will be talking in Hungary in september, do you speak magyar?? | 12:58 |
| pygi | RobinShepheard, no :P | 12:58 |
| RobinShepheard | ahh so in english then | 12:58 |
| pygi | aha ^_^ Why, you from Hungary? | 12:58 |
| RobinShepheard | nahh, I have quite a lot of hungarian friends and love the country | 12:59 |
| RobinShepheard | and they do do a Very good firework display for st Istvans day | 01:00 |
| jsgotangco | bbl friday night =) | 01:09 |
| === Electryfier [n=Electryf@cm227-hs.europronet.ba] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| Electryfier | Hey, does anyone know how to turn source code into .deb installers? | 01:24 |
| ogra | Electryfier, please ask in #ubuntu-motu, this is the channel for edubuntu support | 01:24 |
| Electryfier | Ok | 01:25 |
| === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === enkoptokaf [n=johnny@0x57346512.naenxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === pygi_ [n=pygi@83-131-252-219.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === pygi_ is now known as pygi | ||
| === Yagisan [n=jamie@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === mhz [n=mhz@pc-130-84-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === chris_ [n=chris@rdlax11-b095.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-252-219.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === Electryfier [n=chatzill@cm227-hs.europronet.ba] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| Electryfier | How do I move files/folders in terminal? | 03:21 |
| Electryfier | that is, via terminal | 03:22 |
| bddebian | Howdy | 03:22 |
| bddebian | mv | 03:22 |
| Electryfier | really? | 03:23 |
| Electryfier | ok | 03:23 |
| mhz | mv SourceFiles TargetDirectory | 03:24 |
| Electryfier | ok | 03:24 |
| Electryfier | ok | 03:24 |
| mhz | yw | 03:25 |
| === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@nat-pool-bos.redhat.com] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === mhz can't help using WikiCamelCase | ||
| Electryfier | but how do I get root access, real root, because fakeroot don't work the way I need it | 03:25 |
| Electryfier | other than terminal | 03:26 |
| Electryfier | ogra, can u help | 03:26 |
| bddebian | sudo mv foo bar | 03:26 |
| Electryfier | what | 03:26 |
| Electryfier | that is the command | 03:26 |
| Electryfier | ok | 03:26 |
| === bluekuja_laptop [n=bluekuja@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| bddebian | Well sudo mv <source> <target> | 03:27 |
| Electryfier | hello, I do not need that command | 03:27 |
| Electryfier | know it now | 03:27 |
| mhz | Electryfier: everytime you need 'root' privileges in Ubuntu, default command to start each line is 'sudo' | 03:27 |
| Electryfier | ok | 03:27 |
| mhz | this will require your user-admin password | 03:28 |
| ogra | Electryfier, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo | 03:28 |
| Electryfier | thx | 03:28 |
| mhz | Electryfier: however, unless you do know what you are doing, i wouldn't recommend the use of 'root' | 03:28 |
| Electryfier | I know what I am doing | 03:29 |
| Electryfier | just need to follow instructions | 03:29 |
| mhz | yeah, it is just that the good thing about sudo is that the 'user' do stuff and so, the logs will always tell you who was the one making mistakes :D | 03:29 |
| Electryfier | k | 03:30 |
| Electryfier | gotta go | 03:30 |
| Electryfier | cya | 03:30 |
| mhz | ok | 03:30 |
| === mhz crosses fingers Electryfier don't come back saying "I rm -rf /etc" or stuff | ||
| bddebian | hehe | 03:32 |
| mhz | ogra: re my ideas of edubuntu latino (light desktop + spanish as default language).. Wouldn't it be better if we -people with special identified needs for a 700 MB CD with other language, or other things- could encourage others to adopt and cutomize edubuntu and keeping 'edubuntu core-skeleton'? Maybe having an irc classroom how-to session may help this purpose. | 03:35 |
| ogra | mhz, feel free to hold one | 03:36 |
| ogra | i have never customized an edubuntu Cd in my life | 03:37 |
| ogra | (or an ubuntu CD) | 03:37 |
| mhz | I mean, yes, one way of achieving that purpose is I get to make it work using dsslive + dapper skeleton. However, that is a 'non-ogra's way' | 03:37 |
| mhz | oh, it seems i may have wrong concepts then | 03:37 |
| ogra | well, then you should have a dsslive developer attending ;) | 03:37 |
| mhz | yeah, lol | 03:38 |
| ogra | i'll happily answer questions about the existing CD or about packages, but i have no clue about how to do what you want to do beyond the stuff thats written on the wiki about it | 03:38 |
| mhz | well, it seems i may have some wrong concepts. afaik, what you do is use ubuntu-skeleton + add a set of applications and artwork. Then build an iso. Is that right? | 03:38 |
| ogra | partially | 03:39 |
| ogra | i dont do it in a way that you could access | 03:39 |
| mhz | ahhhhh | 03:39 |
| ogra | you're better off with the customizing howto from the wiki | 03:39 |
| mhz | then, if not using dsslive approach, how do you picture I could work on edubuntu-latino? | 03:40 |
| pygi | mhz, http://lichota.net/~krzysiek/projects/ubuntu-livecd-customization/ | 03:40 |
| pygi | this way ^_^ | 03:40 |
| ogra | colin has a bzr repo of the debiancd scripts we use and his modifications ... | 03:40 |
| mhz | oh, ok, i'll keep reading | 03:40 |
| ogra | but that wont help you with the livefs building ... | 03:41 |
| mhz | thx, pygi and ogra | 03:41 |
| mhz | oh | 03:41 |
| mhz | crap | 03:41 |
| mhz | :) | 03:41 |
| pygi | mhz, : | 03:41 |
| pygi | :) | 03:41 |
| mhz | well, I have a meeting with the guys who would help in Chile first. Yeah, we all will read the info suggested so far | 03:42 |
| mhz | thx, guys | 03:43 |
| === mhz gotta take a shower and leave | ||
| mhz | bye | 03:43 |
| === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| sbalneav | Morning all! | 04:06 |
| === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-252-219.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| ogra | sbalneav, scottie !!!!!!!!!!!1 | 04:08 |
| sbalneav | Hey ogra!!!! | 04:08 |
| sbalneav | How's it going? | 04:08 |
| ogra | well, i just read the notes of klaus knopper on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDShareThisCD | 04:09 |
| ogra | apart from that i postponed my driving to tomorrow | 04:09 |
| ogra | have nearly all merges done ... | 04:09 |
| ogra | havent heard back from my last unapproved spec ... | 04:10 |
| ogra | and will buy a voip headset today :) | 04:10 |
| sbalneav | Awesomeness. | 04:12 |
| ogra | i'm pondering to port the knopper-terminalserver to use zenity so we could put it in universe , sounds helpful | 04:13 |
| ogra | ... it uses dialog+Xdialog, it can be run "graphically" in textmode as well as in X. It's basically a configuration frontend for pxelinux, TFTP, DHCP and NFS ... | 04:14 |
| sbalneav | I've used Xdialog before. Zenity should be a simple "search and replace" substitute. | 04:15 |
| ogra | yep | 04:15 |
| sbalneav | hey, I've got a question. Ever hear of cmake? It's a much simpler replacement for autotools. Does debian/ubuntu have a requirement that the packaging stuff MUST be done with auto*? Or is it configurable to the point where if there's a different meta-builder used, it can adapt. And more to the point, would this fall within Ubuntu guidelines? | 04:18 |
| ogra | cmake is only in universe, so nothing in main can use it ... unless its moved to main | 04:19 |
| ogra | dunno why its not in main though | 04:19 |
| === pygi_ [n=pygi@83-131-230-219.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| ogra | sbalneav, whats your plan with lp_server ? lpd is dead upstram afaik ... | 04:21 |
| ogra | wouldnt it be better to use cups ? or do you consider that to bloated | 04:23 |
| sbalneav | right. Well, I suppose what should happen is I should package it up, so that it could be an installable package. It's a standalone program, it just basically emulates an hp print server | 04:23 |
| sbalneav | ugh, no, cups is too huge. | 04:23 |
| sbalneav | Cups can TALK to lp_server, though. | 04:23 |
| ogra | well, lpd wont get updates or security fixes if nobody maintains it | 04:23 |
| sbalneav | lp_server doesn't use lpd, afaik | 04:24 |
| ogra | oh, i thought it was derived from lpd ... | 04:24 |
| sbalneav | no, not at all. | 04:24 |
| ogra | then just ignore me :) | 04:24 |
| sbalneav | I'd never do that. | 04:24 |
| ogra | well, if i ask silly questions, youre allowed to ;) | 04:25 |
| sbalneav | Dude, if we're keeping track of silly questions, I think I'm ahead of you by several orders of magnitude, so I think you're allowed a few now and then. | 04:26 |
| ogra | heh | 04:26 |
| sbalneav | Lets talk about lp_server as well on monday, as that would be an excellent little project to get my feet wet in the packaging universe. | 04:27 |
| ogra | yeah | 04:27 |
| sbalneav | Eventually I should become a motu as well. | 04:27 |
| ogra | especially it would move one thing we have to compile out of the ltsp package :) | 04:27 |
| sbalneav | When I become MOTU, do I get a cape and thor's hammer? | 04:27 |
| ogra | we'll make you a motu, dont worry :) | 04:27 |
| ogra | sure | 04:28 |
| ogra | we all have that :) | 04:28 |
| sbalneav | Excellent. | 04:28 |
| === ogra produce some rolling background thunder with the hammer hidden behind his chair | ||
| sbalneav | That would be called Mjolnir, if my Norse mythology serves me correctly :) | 04:29 |
| ogra | Mjolnir == hammer hidden behind chair ? | 04:29 |
| === sbalneav has a mental image if ogra with his cape and long hair flowing majestically in the wind, smiting enemies with his hammer. | ||
| sbalneav | That was the name of the hammer, I think. | 04:30 |
| ogra | lol | 04:30 |
| sbalneav | hold on.. | 04:30 |
| ogra | ah | 04:30 |
| sbalneav | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mjolnir | 04:30 |
| RobinShepheard | capes are a bad thing, haven't you seen the incredibles | 04:31 |
| sbalneav | Instead of smiting enemies, I think I should have said smiting bugs. | 04:32 |
| sbalneav | More apt, if I may use the pun. | 04:32 |
| ogra | heh | 04:33 |
| === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-252-185.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === pygi_ [n=pygi@83-131-255-91.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === pygi_ is now known as pygi | ||
| === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| jsgotangco | hello | 05:07 |
| bddebian | Heya jsgotangco | 05:09 |
| === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === Petaris [n=Petaris@216.56.37.162] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| Petaris | Hello all | 05:37 |
| bddebian | Hello Petaris | 05:37 |
| Petaris | to get an ltsp server running is there something speacial I have to choose durring install? | 05:38 |
| === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock | ||
| Petaris | it seems to me last time I installed it "just worked" but this time around its is doing anything but | 05:40 |
| Petaris | I've decided to wipe the install and try again | 05:40 |
| Petaris | Do I want the desktop cd or the install cd? | 05:40 |
| Petaris | I would think install right? | 05:41 |
| Petaris | thats the one I downloaded for the installation last time | 05:41 |
| === Electryfier [n=Electryf@cm238-hs2.europronet.ba] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| ogra | Petaris, thats fine ... se the link from the channel topic | 05:43 |
| Petaris | which one? | 05:44 |
| Petaris | the edubuntu.org? | 05:44 |
| ogra | well, the one that says you should read it before installing :) | 05:44 |
| Electryfier | does anyone know where to get makeinfo | 05:44 |
| ogra | Electryfier, please | 05:44 |
| Electryfier | k | 05:45 |
| Petaris | ogra: ahh, I'm allready reading it | 05:45 |
| Petaris | *again | 05:45 |
| ogra | could you please ask such questions in a dedicated devel channel | 05:45 |
| Electryfier | ok | 05:45 |
| ogra | (or general support channel) | 05:45 |
| Electryfier | ok | 05:46 |
| Electryfier | k | 05:46 |
| Petaris | ogra: anything speacial I have to do for installing an amd64 server with support for i386 clients? | 05:46 |
| ogra | Petaris, wipe the amd64 client root after install and run sudo ltsp-build-client --arch i386 | 05:47 |
| Petaris | ogra: ok, and do you know if you can run the flash plugin as a local app on the clients? | 05:47 |
| ogra | nope | 05:47 |
| Petaris | I know it doesn't work on amd64 | 05:47 |
| ogra | we dont support local apps at all yet | 05:48 |
| Petaris | bugger | 05:48 |
| ogra | you can run firefox in a chroot on the server | 05:48 |
| Petaris | hrm | 05:48 |
| ogra | there are howtos on the web how to set that up | 05:48 |
| Petaris | Is there something that is preventing local apps from working? | 05:49 |
| ogra | yes, a implementation :) | 05:49 |
| Petaris | don't you just chroot into the /opt/ltsp/i386 and apt-get the program? | 05:49 |
| Petaris | hrm | 05:50 |
| ogra | yes | 05:50 |
| Petaris | yes? | 05:50 |
| Petaris | then what is there to not work? | 05:50 |
| ogra | sure, thats how you install it ... | 05:50 |
| Petaris | I'm not trying to be troublesome just curious | 05:50 |
| Petaris | ahh | 05:50 |
| Petaris | ok | 05:50 |
| ogra | installing it is no problem :) | 05:50 |
| Petaris | cool | 05:50 |
| ogra | you need to execute it in a safe way *in* th eusers session on the server | 05:51 |
| Petaris | so if I install ff + the flash plugin as local apps I can get around the amd64 issue with flash | 05:51 |
| ogra | you can indeed set it up yourself ... by installing a ssh server in the client chroot and running a script that ssh's into the client from the users session and executes firefox | 05:52 |
| Petaris | ogra: how so? | 05:52 |
| Petaris | ahh | 05:52 |
| ogra | but thats a bunch of work | 05:52 |
| Petaris | ok | 05:52 |
| Petaris | yeah, sounds resource heavy too | 05:52 |
| Petaris | hrm, there must be a better way to do this | 05:52 |
| Petaris | Do you know if local apps are part of Mue Kow? | 05:53 |
| Petaris | I can't remember what Jim said | 05:53 |
| ogra | we *are* mue cow :) | 05:54 |
| ogra | and indeed local apps are planned to be implemented eventually | 05:54 |
| Petaris | ogra: ok | 05:55 |
| Petaris | hrm | 05:55 |
| ogra | it is planned that we merge our muecow implementation with ltsp upstream within the next two releases | 05:55 |
| ogra | so all the stuff ltsp.org has will enter our implementation one or the other way | 05:55 |
| ogra | and vice versy | 05:55 |
| ogra | *versa | 05:55 |
| Petaris | cool | 05:56 |
| jsgotangco | profit | 05:56 |
| Petaris | I can't wait for the new local devices stuff and ltspfs | 05:56 |
| ogra | so its likely that from edgy+2 on muecow owont exist anymore but ltsp-5 will *be* muecow for all distros | 05:56 |
| Petaris | ok | 06:00 |
| Petaris | ogra: would it be possible to install alsa in the client chroot? | 06:03 |
| Petaris | or would that not work | 06:03 |
| ogra | its already installed :) | 06:03 |
| Petaris | cool | 06:04 |
| ogra | our client chroot is a ubuntu base system ... | 06:04 |
| ogra | with xserver and ldm added ... | 06:04 |
| Petaris | so sound can be done locally on the clients then? | 06:04 |
| ogra | sure | 06:04 |
| Petaris | sweet | 06:04 |
| ogra | just make sure to enable it in the lts.conf ... | 06:04 |
| === Yagisan [n=jamie@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| Petaris | ogra: how, is it just alsa = true or something? | 06:05 |
| ogra | SOUND=True | 06:05 |
| ogra | (mind the capitalization :) | 06:05 |
| Petaris | right | 06:05 |
| ogra | its documented on the edubuntu.org homepage somewhere | 06:06 |
| Petaris | but I thought you had to specify a sound daemon or something | 06:06 |
| ogra | nope | 06:06 |
| Petaris | eg, esd | 06:06 |
| ogra | esd is the default | 06:06 |
| Petaris | cool | 06:06 |
| Petaris | but if your using alsa why would yoiu use esd? | 06:06 |
| ogra | it should just work | 06:06 |
| Petaris | oh, wait | 06:06 |
| Petaris | duh | 06:06 |
| ogra | because alsa is no sounddaemon but a driver framework | 06:07 |
| Petaris | right | 06:07 |
| ogra | you need to transfer the sound through the net ... that can only be done by a souddaemon | 06:07 |
| Petaris | ahh | 06:07 |
| Petaris | ok | 06:07 |
| ogra | we have support for nasd included, but esd is the default | 06:07 |
| ogra | at some point phonon will replace esd | 06:08 |
| ogra | (i think sbalneav is working on that) | 06:08 |
| pygi | more KDE stuff !!! | 06:08 |
| Petaris | oh, with gstreamer or the like | 06:08 |
| Petaris | I would like to see something that works with everything | 06:08 |
| Petaris | the problem with arts, esd, etc is that they only work really well with the desktop they were made for | 06:09 |
| Petaris | well, artsd doesn't work well with anything but thats another rant ;) | 06:10 |
| === jsgotangco is happy to announce that he will be involved with an edubuntu deployment for a local TV foundation here in the coming months | ||
| ogra | YAY !! | 06:10 |
| ogra | pygi, KDE ? | 06:11 |
| jsgotangco | ogra: its BIG | 06:11 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, WOW ! | 06:11 |
| ogra | pygi, err, right, i mean the successor of polypaudio ... its not called phonon, but has a similar strange name | 06:11 |
| pygi | ogra, I am talking rubbish, ignore me :P | 06:11 |
| bddebian | jsgotangco: Awesome, congrats | 06:12 |
| jsgotangco | its actually a nationwide project | 06:12 |
| ogra | pygi, no youre righrt | 06:12 |
| === bddebian is stuck in MS world :'-( | ||
| jsgotangco | in other news, i can now see my house in google earth | 06:12 |
| pygi | ogra, ah, if you say so ^_^ | 06:13 |
| Petaris | bddebian: That sucks | 06:13 |
| bddebian | Petaris: Aye but it pays the bills | 06:14 |
| rodarvus | jsgotangco, cheers! | 06:14 |
| Petaris | ogra: do you have to use a sound daemon with local apps too? Or could they directly talk to alsa? | 06:14 |
| jsgotangco | rodarvus: hi rodrigo! | 06:14 |
| ogra | Petaris, they could use alsa directly ... | 06:15 |
| ogra | Petaris, we support dmix ... | 06:15 |
| Petaris | ogra: hrmmmmmm, that sounds like something that could be played with | 06:15 |
| LaserJock | ogra: puls | 06:16 |
| LaserJock | pulse | 06:16 |
| ogra | yeah ! | 06:16 |
| ogra | pulse | 06:16 |
| Petaris | ogra: is there anyway to use the xfce mixer? | 06:16 |
| ogra | there isnt even a way to use the gnome mixer yet :) | 06:16 |
| ogra | afaik pulse shall address that too | 06:16 |
| Petaris | ok | 06:16 |
| Petaris | What is pulse? | 06:16 |
| pygi | ogra, right, that is not KDE stuff!!! | 06:17 |
| jsgotangco | rodarvus: its basically a program by the foundation to equip far flung public schools with computers and net connectivity and edubuntu is the favored system | 06:17 |
| LaserJock | \o/ | 06:18 |
| rodarvus | jsgotangco, great stuff :) | 06:19 |
| jsgotangco | ironically, the rival network has its own foundation as well with a similar program but has MS as a partner i find it very funny | 06:20 |
| Yagisan | jsgotangco: I found my house in google maps. That was rather cool | 06:21 |
| === pygi_ [n=pygi@83-131-255-29.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| Petaris | Yagisan: Me too | 06:21 |
| jsgotangco | Yagisan: well its the first time manila got mapped in google | 06:21 |
| Yagisan | looked for the north korean missile test site too, but it wasn't high enough resolution pics | 06:21 |
| jsgotangco | before its just a blur | 06:21 |
| Petaris | Yagisan: haha, Me too | 06:22 |
| === pygi_ is now known as pygi | ||
| jsgotangco | seoul is rather clear in google though | 06:22 |
| Petaris | so is Washington DC | 06:22 |
| Yagisan | tokyo isn't. needs a few more pics | 06:22 |
| jsgotangco | Yagisan: strange, you had your key signed in UDU, we could have met? | 06:22 |
| LaserJock | I was able to find my in-laws house in the middle of Montana :/ | 06:23 |
| Yagisan | jsgotangco: perhaps, but I didn't sign your key | 06:23 |
| === Petaris waits for pyongyang to use google maps api as a guidance system | ||
| Yagisan | jsgotangco: remember anyone there *without* a laptop ? | 06:23 |
| jsgotangco | there was news here today about the marines raiding suspected rebel soldiers and said they used a satellite system..deep inside i thought they just used google earth | 06:24 |
| jsgotangco | no | 06:24 |
| jsgotangco | but i could remember faces easily | 06:24 |
| jsgotangco | are you tall, with glasses and dark hair | 06:24 |
| === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| Yagisan | no | 06:24 |
| jsgotangco | ok are you hairless | 06:24 |
| jsgotangco | (on top) | 06:25 |
| Yagisan | no glasses, brown hair (with natural blonde streak in summer) | 06:25 |
| Yagisan | very skiney | 06:25 |
| Yagisan | nose that looks like it's been broken | 06:25 |
| Yagisan | (it has a few times) | 06:25 |
| jsgotangco | show me a pic and i'll remember if i saw you | 06:26 |
| Yagisan | jsgotangco: you meet pitti ? | 06:26 |
| jsgotangco | many times | 06:26 |
| Yagisan | at UDU ? | 06:26 |
| jsgotangco | Yagisan: i was at UDU | 06:26 |
| Yagisan | if so, you may have met me, as all my work was with pitti | 06:26 |
| === Yagisan lloking for a pic | ||
| === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-255-29.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| Yagisan | jsgotangco: http://eyagi.bpa.nu/~jamie/uf/20060621_Jamie_Jones_ID_Photo_120x160.jpg | 06:29 |
| jsgotangco | ah! yes! i did see you | 06:29 |
| jsgotangco | im pretty sure you got captured in my camera somewhere | 06:29 |
| Yagisan | jsgotangco: I'm afraid I would not remember your face :( | 06:30 |
| jsgotangco | no worries | 06:30 |
| jsgotangco | just look at p.u.c | 06:30 |
| Yagisan | ? | 06:31 |
| jsgotangco | err planet.ubuntu.com | 06:31 |
| jsgotangco | i did meet some interesting aussies though | 06:33 |
| jsgotangco | like thoreaupeutic | 06:33 |
| Yagisan | jsgotangco: I found you! you are vaguely familar | 06:45 |
| jsgotangco | actually im only one of 2 asians during UDU | 06:46 |
| jsgotangco | the other one was colin charles | 06:46 |
| Yagisan | jsgotangco: what's your keyid ? | 07:22 |
| jsgotangco | gpg? | 07:23 |
| Yagisan | yep | 07:23 |
| === Yagisan is curious about the trust path from me to you | ||
| jsgotangco | 9E379FC6 | 07:25 |
| LaserJock | no trust at all | 07:25 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 07:25 |
| jsgotangco | hah | 07:26 |
| Yagisan | heh. It goes via my old key | 07:26 |
| Yagisan | jsgotangco: http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/mk_path.cgi?FROM=4B6E7209&TO=9E379FC6&PATHS=trust+paths | 07:27 |
| === jsgotangco purges trust with LaserJock | ||
| jsgotangco | ah from BjornT | 07:27 |
| === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| Yagisan | bddebian !! the man that can solve any problem. How are you ? | 07:34 |
| === bddebian looks around for another bddebian | ||
| === Rondom [n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b94ab1.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === EmxBA [n=emx@as58-ob1.dlp2.bih.net.ba] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| EmxBA | hi everyone! | 08:28 |
| LaserJock | hi EmxBA | 08:29 |
| EmxBA | what's up in here? i wasn't online *a lot* | 08:29 |
| LaserJock | hmm, not really sure | 08:32 |
| LaserJock | people hanging out, working, etc. | 08:32 |
| LaserJock | got lots of spec work done for Edgy | 08:32 |
| EmxBA | anything *really* special, except cookbook? | 08:33 |
| LaserJock | here are some specs to look at: https://launchpad.net/people/ogra/+specs | 08:36 |
| === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-249-249.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| EmxBA | ok | 08:37 |
| LaserJock | the "approved" ones are cool | 08:37 |
| === nyxem [n=denis___@adslvi187.tel.net.ba] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === EmxBA [n=emx@as58-ob1.dlp2.bih.net.ba] has left #edubuntu [] | ||
| === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548ACFDD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| juliux | hi ogra_ | 09:43 |
| === Kozuch [n=jan@159.108.broadband5.iol.cz] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === baconbacon [n=bacon@modemcable020.207-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === hareem [n=hareem@toronto-HSE-ppp4078228.sympatico.ca] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| hareem | hi i just installed edubuntu. How can i setup the ltsp users | 09:58 |
| hareem | can some one help me | 09:59 |
| baconbacon | check http://www.edubuntu.org/ThinClientConfig | 09:59 |
| baconbacon | or http://www.edubuntu.org/GettingStarted | 10:00 |
| === baconbacon [n=bacon@modemcable020.207-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] | ||
| lucasvo | hi everybody | 10:18 |
| pygi | !! hi !! | 10:19 |
| ubotu | I know nothing about ! hi !! | 10:19 |
| lucasvo | hi pygi | 10:19 |
| lucasvo | I feel like doing some work for edubuntu atm | 10:20 |
| lucasvo | it's been a long time since I last did anything actively here... | 10:20 |
| hareem | i got the thin clients working ok. But how can i control them from the server. Like remotely log them off | 10:23 |
| Petaris | later | 10:23 |
| === Petaris [n=Petaris@216.56.37.162] has left #edubuntu ["Out"] | ||
| hareem | hey how can we control the thin clients that connect to us | 10:27 |
| lucasvo | hareem: there is no application that can do this yet | 10:28 |
| hareem | then how can i limit their usage time | 10:28 |
| ogra_ | hareem, install student-control-panel from universe | 10:28 |
| LaserJock | student-control-panel might help some but I'm not sure what all it can do right now | 10:28 |
| LaserJock | doh | 10:28 |
| ogra_ | it has no time options, but you can kick them out | 10:28 |
| ogra_ | (patches for a timeout tool gracefully accepted ;) ) | 10:29 |
| hareem | how can i setup the student control panel | 10:29 |
| ogra_ | install it with synaptic (the package manager) from universe | 10:29 |
| ogra_ | it will show up in your administration menu | 10:30 |
| LaserJock | ogra_: I saw an interesing email on the sabayon thread | 10:32 |
| ogra_ | about ? | 10:32 |
| LaserJock | somebody asked what happens if you use alacarte out of the menu | 10:32 |
| LaserJock | since it uses xnest you won't have alacarte to turn alacarte back on | 10:33 |
| Amaranth | if you remove alacarte from the menu using alacarte? | 10:33 |
| LaserJock | right | 10:33 |
| LaserJock | so you fire up your xnest and use alacarte to edit the menu | 10:33 |
| LaserJock | but one of the things you might want to take out of the menu is the ability to edit the menu | 10:34 |
| LaserJock | but once you've done that and saved the profile | 10:34 |
| LaserJock | then when you go to edit it again, no alacarte | 10:34 |
| Amaranth | um, right click on the menu and choose edit menus :P | 10:34 |
| Amaranth | on the panel applet, i mean | 10:35 |
| ogra_ | doesnt the profile offer this ugly list with checkboxes once you have saved the profile ? | 10:35 |
| ogra_ | you should be able to revert it there | 10:35 |
| LaserJock | hmm, maybe | 10:35 |
| LaserJock | I'll have to check that | 10:35 |
| LaserJock | but it was an interesting though | 10:35 |
| LaserJock | t | 10:35 |
| ogra_ | i think there is such a thing like a step by step log | 10:35 |
| LaserJock | you could alway edit the profile manually | 10:35 |
| ogra_ | but i'm not sure | 10:35 |
| LaserJock | but that isn't very elegant | 10:36 |
| ogra_ | yep | 10:36 |
| LaserJock | anyway it was an interesting email because the person was wanting to do a very similar thing to what we want to do | 10:36 |
| LaserJock | http://mail.gnome.org/archives/sabayon-list/2006-June/msg00006.html | 10:37 |
| LaserJock | oh, is that DanielC | 10:37 |
| LaserJock | doh, wrong email | 10:38 |
| LaserJock | ah, this is the email: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/sabayon-list/2006-March/msg00001.html | 10:47 |
| === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| cbx33 | evenin everyone | 10:49 |
| lucasvo | hi cbx33 | 10:50 |
| cbx33 | hey lucasvo | 10:50 |
| cbx33 | long time no see | 10:50 |
| lucasvo | yeah | 10:52 |
| === lucasvo is just learning python and django (www.djangoproject.ocm | ||
| lucasvo | *com) | 10:52 |
| cbx33 | django | 10:53 |
| cbx33 | what's that? | 10:53 |
| lucasvo | cbx33: a webframework | 10:53 |
| cbx33 | ah cool | 10:53 |
| cbx33 | like ruby on rails can do? | 10:53 |
| lucasvo | *very* powerfull | 10:53 |
| pygi | cbx33, better then ruby on rails !!! | 10:53 |
| lucasvo | cbx33: yeah | 10:53 |
| cbx33 | oooh | 10:53 |
| cbx33 | i only glanced t ruby and thought wow this is quite cool | 10:53 |
| cbx33 | so it must be amazing | 10:54 |
| pygi | cbx33, take | 10:54 |
| LaserJock | hi cbx33 | 10:54 |
| cbx33 | hey LaserJock | 10:54 |
| pygi | cbx33, ask Lisa what she thinks about it pls? ^_^ | 10:55 |
| cbx33 | I like it | 10:55 |
| cbx33 | who did it? | 10:55 |
| pygi | Eva ^_^ | 10:55 |
| lucasvo | pygi: what are you talking about ? :) | 10:55 |
| pygi | lucasvo, the drugs I just sold to cbx33 ^_^ | 10:56 |
| === lucasvo wants to look at it as well | ||
| lucasvo | baah | 10:56 |
| lucasvo | I had plenty of drugs the last two weeks | 10:56 |
| pygi | cbx33, one of my friends from London | 10:56 |
| cbx33 | ah wicked | 10:56 |
| cbx33 | I love it | 10:56 |
| cbx33 | it looks kinda manga-esqe with some pop art thrown in | 10:56 |
| pygi | nice, care to ask lisa to comment? ^_^ | 10:57 |
| pygi | We will also get 3 teddy bears holding hands =P | 10:57 |
| pygi | !! :) | 10:57 |
| cbx33 | hehe nice | 10:57 |
| ubotu | I know nothing about ! :) | 10:57 |
| cbx33 | I'll ask her | 10:57 |
| pygi | ubotu, you know nothing about nothing | 10:57 |
| ubotu | I know nothing about you know nothing about nothing | 10:57 |
| pygi | cbx33, thanks ^_^ ask her about the teddies too :P | 10:58 |
| pygi | (idea, considering she's leader now) | 10:58 |
| pygi | and thanks ^_^ | 11:00 |
| lucasvo | pygi: you know django? | 11:08 |
| pygi | I know nothing ^_^ | 11:08 |
| cbx33 | pygi, lisa said she loves it..... | 11:25 |
| cbx33 | bring it on :p | 11:25 |
| cbx33 | brb | 11:25 |
| === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-6-76-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| pygi | cbx33, nice ^_^ | 11:45 |
| === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === th1a [n=th1a@66-78-210-130.sandiego.smartcity.com] has joined #edubuntu | ||
| === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-249-249.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu | ||
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
