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pyginight12:12
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bddebianHello01:53
nixternalbo01:59
nixternalo01:59
bddebianHeh, heya nixternal02:00
nixternalwell hello there02:00
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Hobbseehi all03:36
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freeflying|awayHobbsee: moin03:56
Hobbseehi freeflying|away 03:57
imbrandonheya freeflying|away03:58
freeflying|awayimbrandon: hi03:58
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imbrandon!seen riddell04:29
ubotuI last saw Riddell (i=jr@kde/jriddell) 1h 42m 55s ago, quiting: No route to host04:29
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Hobbsee!seen riddell04:43
Hobbsee!seen riddelll04:43
ubotuI last saw Riddell (i=jr@kde/jriddell) 1h 56m 22s ago, quiting: No route to host04:43
ubotuI last saw Riddelll (n=jr@82.138.218.202) 9h 30m 21s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection04:43
Hobbseeimbrandon: he's asleep04:43
imbrandonheheh noticed04:44
imbrandon;)04:44
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nixternalhiya Hobbsee06:10
Hobbseehi nixternal 06:10
nixternalyou gonna be at the meeting on the 17th?06:11
nixternaland at the CC on the 11th?06:11
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crimsun.oO( that's a bit ... odd to be asking a CC member for support? )06:12
nixternalhehe06:13
nixternalwhat happened to the forums06:13
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Hobbseenixternal: they died06:23
nixternalthey are tied into ubuntu.com now06:23
Hobbseenixternal: me?  kubuntu meeting on the 17th?  yeah.  CC at teh 11th?  what time?06:23
nixternalso that means my kubuntu theme is gone ;)06:23
nixternal20:00 utc06:23
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bddebianGnight folks06:38
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Hobbseeimbrandon: they still seem to work here 07:27
HobbseeRiddell: welcome back07:27
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nixternali see edgy dist-upgrade breaks a lot of stuff on the lappy07:27
imbrandonall mine dissapeared but one07:27
nixternalwow07:28
Hobbseenixternal: they're breaking x atm07:28
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imbrandonnixternal, edgy dist-upgrade breaks alot of things peroid07:28
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crimsunwhat the07:28
Hobbseecrimsun: sorry, just testing new stuff07:28
nixternalyour script works07:28
nixternalnow let me have a copy07:28
imbrandonnixternal, nightly konvo builds07:28
nixternalso i don't have to waste time doin' it07:28
Hobbseecrimsun: i was guessing this was the quietest channel to test on07:28
nixternalwhere is my konvo build?07:28
nixternalahhh..you are using the buttons in the top right hand corner?07:29
imbrandonnixternal, i'll post them soon ( need to talk to Sho_ too )07:29
Hobbseenixternal: yeah07:29
nixternali removed those07:29
nixternallol07:29
Hobbseeimbrandon: sho_ went to sleep07:29
imbrandontop right ? 07:29
Hobbseeimbrandon: doesnt seem to break anything huge.07:29
nixternalso did imbrandon obviously07:29
imbrandonHobbsee, yea i seen , he should be back online before i goto bed07:29
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Hobbseewell that still works.07:29
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imbrandonwth07:30
nixternalhahaha07:30
Hobbseeimbrandon: was testing, see the quit message.07:30
Hobbseeimbrandon: i was going to test +i07:30
imbrandon??07:30
nixternal[00:30]  <-- imbrandon has left this channel (requested by Hobbsee: " testing.  rejoin soon").07:30
nixternal[00:30]  <Hobbsee> well that still works.07:30
imbrandoni dident get a quit message07:30
nixternallol07:30
Hobbseeimbrandon: that's cos i removed you.07:30
imbrandonlol07:30
Hobbseeimbrandon: now stay removed :P07:30
imbrandondoh07:30
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nixternalhaha07:30
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Hobbseeimbrandon: nice, that works too now :)07:31
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Hobbseeright, that's op onl07:31
Hobbseey07:31
imbrandonHobbsee, join #buntudot07:31
imbrandonlol07:31
imbrandonlets get this outa here07:31
Hobbseeheh07:31
nixternal;)07:32
nixternalarg07:32
nixternalHobbsee: quit ownin' me ;)07:33
Hobbseenixternal: heh.  unless i say otherwise, feel free to rejoin07:34
Hobbseeand i say such things in my remove message, which you should see in your server window.07:34
seaLneRiddell: i'm going to LRL07:36
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Hobbseegood bot.   *kills irssi window in the background*08:10
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freeflyingHobbsee: hi08:10
Hobbseehi freeflying :)08:10
freeflyingHobbsee: weekend coming :)08:11
Hobbseeyay!08:11
Hobbseei'm working this weekend.08:11
freeflyinghehe08:11
Hobbsee8 hours or something.  pathetic.08:12
Hobbseespeaking of which, i should check if i've payed this bill.08:12
Hobbseeseeing as it now is lovely and red and says "OVERDUE"08:12
\shmoins08:14
Hobbseehi \sh 08:15
freeflyinghey \sh 08:15
Hobbseecrud, i havent.08:15
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seaLnedoes anyone get Bug #52142 i don't08:36
UbugtuMalone bug 52142 in kubuntu-meta "Screensaver does not work" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5214208:36
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HobbseeseaLne: which kde?08:42
\shkonversation will hit the archive soon08:42
HobbseeseaLne: ah yeah, that.  Riddell got the patch and built the edgy ones with it, but i dont think he rebuilt the dapper ones.08:43
freeflying\sh: how to sync from sid now? need file bug for it ?08:46
Hobbseefreeflying: yes08:46
freeflyingHobbsee: any example?08:47
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Hobbseesearch for MoM 08:47
freeflyingHobbsee: thx08:47
crimsunfreeflying: file a bug against the source package entitled "[Edgy MoM]  Please sync sourcepackage-version from Debian Sid". In the text entry, link to MoM's REPORT, and say it's Ok to override Ubuntu changes. Then subscribe (don't assign to) ubuntu-archive.08:51
freeflyingcrimsun: thx08:52
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HobbseeseaLne: leave that one to me - that screensaver one08:53
crimsunfreeflying: e.g., https://launchpad.net/bugs/5207308:54
UbugtuMalone bug 52073 in zhcon "[Edgy MoM]  Please sync zhcon 1:0.2.6-1 from Debian Sid" [Untriaged,Fix released]  08:54
freeflyingcrimsun: got it, thx08:54
HobbseeseaLne: did we ever figure out what group we have to be in to change bugs from untriaged into something else?08:58
HobbseeRiddell: ping?08:59
seaLneHobbsee: i have screensaver fine in dapper, yeah let me know if you find out about triaged09:02
HobbseeseaLne: it certainly didnt *use* to work, and im' not sure that those were ever rebuilt09:03
HobbseeseaLne: is this on dapper, 3.5.3?  or edgy?09:03
seaLnedapper, 3.5.309:03
Hobbseehmmm09:03
seaLneah no wait it might be kpowersave doing it on this laptop09:04
seaLneyeah i don't have screensaver set09:04
seaLneso you are probably right then09:05
HobbseeseaLne: it's still there09:06
HobbseeseaLne: i'll poke Riddell over it, i did last time.09:06
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Hobbseeah what the hell, i think i'll subscribe to all of it.09:07
=== Hobbsee bugfixes.
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Hobbseehi Lure 09:11
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HobbseeseaLne: are you still bug triaging?09:30
seaLneis that an in general question or do you mean atm?09:32
HobbseeseaLne: at the moment, yah09:33
Hobbsee*yeah09:33
HobbseeseaLne: i just found what group you have to be in to set the severity too09:33
seaLneah ok your question makes more sense now, in that case yeah i should probably be in it09:34
crimsun(but we've been saying ubuntu-qa for a month or so now...)09:34
seaLnebeing able to change from untriaged would at least be usefull09:34
seaLnealtho i'm a bit unsure what the point of that level is09:35
crimsunthat's Status09:35
HobbseeseaLne: you need to be part of ubuntu-qa09:36
HobbseeseaLne: poke dholbach, and he'll be able to approve you09:36
Hobbseecrimsun: i'd only heard that it was included in bug squashers09:36
seaLneare we not talking about the importance field just now?09:36
HobbseeseaLne: we are.  09:36
Hobbseeat least, that's what i'm talking about :P09:37
seaLne08:35 < crimsun> that's Status09:37
crimsununtriaged is not Importance09:38
Hobbseecrimsun: untriaged *is* importance09:38
Hobbseeuntriaged is *not* status.09:38
Hobbseecrimsun: go look :P09:38
crimsunhuh? the terms have changed again?09:38
Hobbseecrimsun: yep09:38
crimsunarghAodls09:38
Hobbseehahaaha09:38
Hobbseeyeah09:38
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\sh kdelibs4-dev: Depends: libarts1-dev (>= 1.5.0) but it is not going to be installed09:44
\sh                Depends: libqt3-mt-dev (>= 3:3.3.5) but it is not going to be installed09:44
\sh                Depends: libavahi-qt3-dev (>= 0.4) but it is not going to be installed09:44
\shhmmm09:44
Hobbsee\sh: yeah, it's broken.09:45
Hobbseeit's broken with libxft, iirc - libxft-dev isnt installable.09:45
crimsunxft hasn't been transitioned09:49
crimsun(src:libxft -> src:xft)09:49
Hobbseefreeflying|away: does bug 32939 still exist?10:01
UbugtuMalone bug 32939 in konversation "konversation does not appear internationalized" [Medium,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3293910:01
freeflying|awayHobbsee: plz colse it 10:01
crimsunreject / fix released?10:02
Hobbseefreeflying|away: will do10:02
Hobbseecrimsun: fix released, yeah10:02
crimsunok10:02
freeflying|awayHobbsee: thx10:02
Hobbseenice, no open bugs in konvi :)10:04
\shHobbsee: kk10:06
Hobbseewell, not really, anyway :)10:06
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Hobbsee\sh: you probably know already, but konversation FTBFS due to broken X.11:23
\shHobbsee: yepp, but actually is in the archive11:24
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\shHobbsee: I didn't update my pbuilder env...so I can test if it would build with a working X ;)11:24
Hobbsee\sh: hehe, that's what i was doing for a while too, until i stupidly upgraded.11:25
crimsunyeah, everyone's screaming about X being broken11:25
\shHobbsee: you weren't there for breezy, when for weeks nothing build correctly because of the xorg transition 11:26
Hobbsee\sh: true...ish11:26
Hobbseeno, wait, for breezy11:26
Hobbseeno, you're right11:26
RiddellHobbsee: pong11:27
HobbseeRiddell: i found some interesting stuff in the bug reports - some fixes11:27
crimsun\sh: heh, we're still carrying those changelog entries :)11:27
Riddellsounds good11:27
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HobbseeCan we ship gdb by default?  it's in main, and it's constantly used in kcrash11:27
Hobbseehttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/3654511:27
UbugtuMalone bug 36545 in kubuntu-meta "Kubuntu Flight 5: Cannot backtrace in Crash Handler" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  11:27
HobbseeGet dapper kde 3.5.3 packages rebuilt with screensaver patch, so it works.  Patch attached to bug:11:27
Hobbseehttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/5214211:27
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UbugtuMalone bug 52142 in kdelibs "Screensaver does not work" [Unknown,Unknown]  11:28
Riddellwe did have gdb for hoary but it disappeared.  we'd need to see how much room it took up11:28
RiddellI don't have time to rebuild dapper packages11:29
HobbseeRiddell: if you're going to ship kcrash as part of kde, it probably makes sense to have it in, if there's room :P11:29
Hobbseeah ok11:29
HobbseeRiddell: does every single package have to be rebuilt, or just the one that the patch applies to?11:29
RiddellHobbsee: just the ones the patch applies s11:30
Riddellto11:30
HobbseeRiddell: okay, and if one of us builds it, will you stick it up on kubuntu.org?  ie, do you have time to do that much?11:31
seaLnewouldn't be signed11:31
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imbrandonseaLne, he can sign the archive with the ARCHIVE script, the package would just be signed by someone else11:33
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imbrandonhehe11:33
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Hobbseehi apokryphos 11:37
apokryphosheya Hobbsee11:37
imbrandonheya apokryphos11:37
apokryphoshi 8)11:37
Riddellit's more a question of being able to trust the packages, it's very easy to make mistakes11:40
Riddelland I don't know of anyone with all three architectures11:40
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imbrandonthus i'll leave it to Riddell ;)11:41
seaLneif anyone *here* is desperate to buy a kubuntu tshirt they can pay paypal @kubuntustuff.org 15.50saying in the comment what size tshirt they want small=36" medium=40" large=44" 11:41
imbrandonseaLne, i'11:41
imbrandoni'll grab one but not this eve, will be after i sleep and wakeup11:42
Riddell36" what?11:42
imbrandonif thats cool11:42
imbrandonRiddell, chest probbly11:42
HobbseeRiddell: fair enough.   i thought that's why they created debdiff - so it was easy to check.    and the patch is directly from kde.  oh well.11:42
seaLnechest size like the circuferance11:42
RiddellHobbsee: not the source but the binary, the chroot/pbuilder has to be exactly the same as the one the other packages used11:43
HobbseeRiddell: ah right11:43
Hobbsees/debdiff/diff11:43
Riddellyou can't diff a binary package :)11:44
seaLnepaypal don't make it easy to fully setup a merchant type account11:44
HobbseeRiddell: oh yeah.  oops, i'm getting it all backwards :P11:44
cain__chz 11:58
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RiddellseaLne: are you charging the same for international delivery as for UK?12:02
seaLneyes12:03
Hobbseenixternal: ping?12:04
seaLneso you would be subsidising Hobbsee if she buys one :) its far simpler12:04
Hobbseenixternal: unping, dont mind12:04
imbrandonhe's asleep12:04
Hobbseeimbrandon: yeah, i misread anyway12:05
HobbseeseaLne: heh12:05
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Hobbseefor not having to subsidise me12:06
seaLneeven the small is too big?12:06
HobbseeseaLne: likely.12:06
Hobbsee:P12:06
Hobbseeit doesnt matter12:07
seaLnebecause you wouldn't have bought one anyway? /me sulks12:08
Hobbseeheh12:08
Hobbseeno, i have no credit card.12:08
seaLneah ofcourse12:09
Riddellwell if I get canonical to buy some then hobbsee can get one next time she does a kubuntu exhibition stand12:09
Hobbseehaha12:10
seaLneRiddell: you saw my comment earlier about LRL?12:10
RiddellseaLne: nope12:11
seaLnei'm going to it12:11
seaLnewhat is the plan for the stall, i'm happy to help12:12
Riddellrocking12:12
Riddellwell it's a KDE/kubuntu stall12:12
HobbseeseaLne: what's LRL?12:12
Riddellwith me, Ben Lamb and someone else12:12
seaLneyou noticed the interesting timing on the sunday where your talk is at the same time as the ubuntu-uk bof?12:13
RiddellI can't remember who the other person is just now12:13
seaLneHobbsee: lugradio.org/live12:13
Riddellnot looked at timings12:13
HobbseeseaLne: ah okay12:13
hungerIs there any chance to get qt4 rebuild with the new X?12:14
Riddellhunger: why does it need it?12:14
hungerRiddell: I can not upgrade X without removing libqt4.12:14
Riddellhunger: I'll take a look at that12:15
hungerRiddell: apt-get install x11-common wants to remove libqt4-debug-dev libqt4-dev libxft-dev qt4-designer12:15
RiddellseaLne: so we can sell kubuntu t-shirts there and give out kubuntu CDs12:15
seaLnesounds good12:16
tomamoguh12:27
Hobbseehi toma.  did rsibreak ever get backported?12:28
Riddell555512:28
\shHobbsee: can you give me a short hint where konversation fixed 3499212:28
tomaHobbsee: hi, not oficially no12:28
\shHobbsee: upstream?12:28
Hobbseebug 3499212:28
UbugtuMalone bug 34992 in kdenetwork "Name with ampersand appears with underscore in menus" [Unknown,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3499212:28
\shHobbsee: url of wbesvn or so12:29
Hobbsee\sh: yeah, latest konversation builds have it fixed.  imbrandon's got a repo of nightly builds that we're testing out12:29
Hobbseeoh gosh.  i used to, but i dont have it any more on hand.12:29
\shHobbsee: is it in websvn.kde.org?12:29
\shextragear or so?12:29
Hobbsee\sh: i'm sure of it, give me a sec to look12:29
\shHobbsee: cool thx12:30
Hobbsee\sh: it's  listed as fixed in svn in the upstream bug, do you want the websvn bit for it?12:30
\shoh boy, we are less then a week from product launch and I'm doing four jobs at the same time12:30
imbrandonextragear-network/konversation12:30
\shHobbsee: upstream bts url is enough :)12:30
Hobbsee\sh: it's linked to the bug, FYI.12:31
\shoh well, I'm blind12:31
tomaHobbsee: is there a channel were i can polity scream at someone to do it?12:31
Riddelltoma: to do the backport?12:31
Hobbsee\sh: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12751012:32
tomaRiddell: yes12:32
UbugtuKDE bug 127510 in general "Name with ampersand appears with underscore in menus" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]  12:32
imbrandontoma, you can file a backport request on LP12:32
Hobbsee\sh: search the launchpad bug page for  kde-bugs #127510  [RESOLVED FIXED]   (edit)12:32
tomabug 5083212:32
Hobbsee\sh: it's on the right hand side, about half way down12:32
UbugtuMalone bug 50832 in rsibreak "Please backport 0.7.1 from edgy to dapper" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5083212:32
Riddelltoma: you need to check that it builds on a dapper pbuilder then file a bug requesting it and subscribe ubuntu-archive12:32
tomaok, i assigned it to ubuntu-backports12:33
Hobbseetoma: -archive or -backports?12:33
Riddelltoma: hmm, maybe that's the correct way12:33
\shoh well, if they only would write the files touched by this bug12:33
tomait builds fine, allee serves it from his repository for now12:34
Riddellneeds to be filed on  http://launchpad.net/products/dapper-backports/+bugs12:34
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tomait is the second one in the list12:34
Riddellis anything being backported?12:36
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imbrandonwhy is keybuk saying he has no idea how to backport on all the requests ?12:39
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Riddellimbrandon: because he's new to soyuz and it's probably not implemented in soyuz yet12:40
imbrandonahh12:41
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Riddelltoma: I recommend you e-mail jdong and ask if backports are possible or if everyone just needs to wait for soyuz to implement them12:41
tomaRiddell: okido, will do that12:42
Riddelllooking at the rsi bug report it looks like he just checks it and hopes ubuntu-archive will do it12:44
Riddellso I'd guess we need to wait for infinity to come back from holiday at the least12:44
imbrandonyea12:44
imbrandonlooks like it lol12:44
imbrandonohh btw Riddell i snagged your ARCHIVE script from kubuntu.org and modified it a bit for my own use, hope ya dont mind12:46
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Riddellsure, go ahead12:46
\shhmmm..peter simonsson is who on irc?12:46
Riddell\sh: never heard of him12:46
\sh------- Additional Comment #2 From Peter Simonsson 2006-06-26 15:45 -------  12:47
\shFixed in svn trunk... will be in 0.20 12:47
\shkonversation hacker12:47
Hobbsee\sh: it really is fixed.12:48
Hobbsee\sh: and he's in #konversation12:48
Hobbseepsn12:48
\shHobbsee: yes, but I need the file where he fixed it, to get the patch ready12:49
Riddell\sh: try looking in websvn12:49
Riddell\sh: he's psn12:50
\shRiddell: no mentioning of the bugnumber12:50
\shI'm on it with psn12:50
\shpatched and fixed01:00
Riddell\sh: is python-qt4 to be synced from debian?01:08
\shhmmm...it should be synced automagically, no?01:08
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\shhmm..no it was NEW to debian01:08
\shso we don't even know about it, or keybuk changed the sync script01:09
Riddellgood point, I'm not sure01:09
\shIn case we don't know about it, I'll file a sync request with mentioning that it is NEW to ubuntu01:10
\shagainst which package though ;)01:10
pygiagaint qt4 perhaps? :P01:12
\shno01:12
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tomaRiddell: codeine is accepted a few days back in debian unstable. Will edgy pick that newer version up? Or do i need to enter a sync request?01:42
tomait was not in debian before, but it was already in kubuntu.01:42
Riddellversion in ubuntu has 1.0-0ubuntu1 number which means it'll need to be requested01:43
Riddellfile a sycn request on codeine and subcribe ubuntu-archive01:43
tomaokido01:43
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tomafeels good to be doing something...01:49
Riddellplenty more sync waiting for you to attend to them01:51
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tomaRiddell: should that be reassigned back to -archive?02:20
Riddelltoma: what?02:22
tomathe codeine sync br02:22
Riddelltoma: ubuntu-archive is subsribed02:23
Riddellthat's all that's needed02:23
tomaok02:24
imbrandonwhat is that dpkg compare versions syntax again ?02:29
Hobbseeimbrandon: what, for a merge?02:29
imbrandonno just to compare two version numbers02:30
Hobbseedebdiff whatever*.dsc > foo.debdiff?02:30
Hobbseethat what you're meaning?02:30
imbrandondpkg --compare-versions 1 2 ( or something like that )02:30
imbrandonRiddell and jpatrick was telling me how to use it the other day02:31
imbrandonbut i dident note it02:31
Hobbsee  dpkg --compare-versions <a> <rel> <b>    compare version numbers - see below02:31
HobbseeComparison operators for --compare-versions are:02:32
Hobbsee lt le eq ne ge gt       (treat empty version as earlier than any version);02:32
Hobbsee lt-nl le-nl ge-nl gt-nl (treat empty version as later than any version);02:32
Hobbsee < << <= = >= >> >       (only for compatibility with control file syntax).02:32
Hobbseeprobably that02:32
Riddellecho $?  after02:33
imbrandonyea02:33
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imbrandonlike hello ladies or something LOL02:33
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tomawhat is dh_iconcache?02:52
Riddelltoma: it creates the icon cache that gnome uses02:53
Riddelltoma: why do you ask?02:53
tomaRiddell: just comparing kde-extra packages to ubuntu ones.. Looking at what needs to be synced02:54
Riddellsyncing it would be nic02:54
Riddellnice02:54
tomaRiddell: i saw digikamimageplugins is older, but ubuntu has added that02:54
tomaso if i request a sync that change will get lost02:55
Riddelldebian doesn't have a newer version of digikamimageplugins02:57
Riddelldoes it not use cdbs?02:57
toma0.8.1-2 is in debian02:58
Riddellpackage.d.o doesn't know about it :)02:58
Riddelloh, I see it02:58
tomahttp://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=pkg-kde-extras@lists.alioth.debian.org02:58
Hobbseetoma: which package was this?  digikamimageplugins?03:00
tomayes03:00
Hobbseetoma: did you find your answer?03:00
tomaHobbsee: no, i'm not sure what to do, but i now know what iconcache is ;-)03:01
Hobbseetoma: okay, give me a sec03:01
Riddelltoma: digikamimageplugins is cdbs, dh_iconcache is now in cdbs so you can request a sync03:01
HobbseeRiddell: does it have a debian/cdbs/1/kde.mk though?03:02
tomaHobbsee: rules:include /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/kde.mk03:03
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Hobbseetoma: right, good, sync it :)03:04
tomaok03:04
Hobbseetoma: how are you building this though?  ie, how are you testing it?03:04
tomaHobbsee: I'm not testing it, just comparing versions03:05
Hobbseetoma: ah ok03:06
tomais that ok, or should it be tested before asking a sync?03:06
Hobbseetoma: well, if it builds in debian, it's *likely* to build in ubuntu - but that's no guarentee that it will, as i found in the case of one of the packages i was looking at03:06
\shyou need to testbuild it03:07
Riddellyeah, you should use a pbuilder to check03:07
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tomahmmm, that would need to be setup then03:08
\shapt-get install pbuilder fakeroot 03:08
\shand if you are running dapper, you should fetch debootstrap from edgy and install it03:09
\shhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto is another document you want to read :)03:09
Hobbseetoma: current pbuilder is borked though.03:10
Hobbseewhich makes testing kinda hard.03:10
Riddellhmm, good point Hobbsee 03:10
\shHobbsee: hmmm? pbuilder is borked?03:10
Hobbseewhich is why i'm bored, and doign no merges03:10
\shHobbsee: you mean the archive is borked03:10
\shbecause of new Xorg packages03:10
Hobbsee\sh: not pbuilder itself.  archive is borked, in particular kdelibs4-dev03:10
Hobbseeand libqt3-mt-dev03:10
\shHobbsee: then do other merges ;)03:11
\shthere are a lot more packages to merge03:11
tomaok, does not seem something that is setup easily....03:11
Hobbsee\sh: that cuts anything kde related out, and most things require some form of X03:11
Hobbsee\sh: any recommendations on where?03:11
\shtake some from http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html03:11
\shtry it :)03:11
\shdmraid03:12
\shdoc++03:12
\shdrscheme03:12
RiddellI can give people access to my chroot if that helps03:12
\shexim03:12
HobbseeRiddell: wont your X be broken too?03:12
RiddellHobbsee: the chroot was made before X broke03:13
HobbseeRiddell: oh nice.03:13
hungerX broke? I should better not log out then;-)03:14
seaLnemy X upgraded as of this morning seems fine03:16
seaLnewhat is broken?03:16
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toma\sh: thanks for the link. Now i know the versions are already compared and i dont have to do it.03:19
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bddebianHello03:22
Hobbseehi bddebian 03:23
bddebianHeya Hobbsee03:23
jjessemonring Hobbsee nad bddebian03:28
Hobbseehi jjesse 03:28
bddebianHeya jjesse03:28
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imbrandonheya bddebian and jjesse, and bye bddebian and jjesse ( and others )  /me is off to sleep for a bit03:30
bddebianGnight imbrandon03:32
Hobbseewoohoo!  one sync!03:41
\shtoma: hum?03:53
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\shtoma: compared doesn't mean merged :)03:54
\shor synced03:54
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toma\sh: i know. But i dont have persmissions to do a lot more03:54
\shtoma: why not?03:57
\shtoma: you could to merging ... tell us to check put it on revu and we are uploading your merge as sponsored package :)03:57
Hobbsee\sh: toma and i are working thru this merging :P04:05
Hobbsee\sh: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ksubtile/+bug/52235 <-- please approve it and subscribe appropriate people.04:05
UbugtuMalone bug 52235 in ksubtile "[Edgy MoM]  Please sync ksubtile 1.2-4 from Debian Sid" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  04:06
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HobbseeRiddell: if \sh isnt, can you approve the bug above please?04:10
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RiddellHobbsee: done04:10
HobbseeRiddell: thankyou :)04:10
\shHobbsee: sry..wasn't at my place...04:17
Hobbsee\sh: it's cool :)04:17
\shand sadly I have to stop for now with merging next to my normal work :( too many requests04:18
\shneed to install 200 servers 04:18
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Hobbsee\sh: okay, enjoy :P04:20
Hobbseei'll poke Riddell for my uploads then :)04:20
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\shHobbsee: enjoying is something else04:21
Hobbseehehe04:21
\sh38 minutes they need to be install04:22
\shed04:22
Hobbseeouchy04:23
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abattoirRiddell: 04:28
abattoir <Kamion> ok, stage 1 of the big oem-config reorganisation is done04:28
abattoir[19:31:40]  <Kamion> I've updated the core to look more like ubiquity, rewritten the GTK UI, and separated stuff out so that there's mostly room for a KDE UI to slot in04:28
abattoir[19:31:51]  <Kamion> however, the current state is very likely to be extremely broken; I haven't tested it yet04:28
abattoirRiddell: also, the UI which i showed you yesterday is no good.... :( 04:29
abattoiroem-config apparently is a bit different from ubiquity04:29
abattoirso i'll have a look at the GTK think, put up a wiki, and create a Qt interface...04:29
Riddellabattoir: what's different?04:30
abattoir* GTK thing04:30
abattoirLanguage, Location go into one widget...04:30
abattoirthe map widget is out.... for now04:30
abattoirthe order of the widgets is also different04:31
abattoirtimezone has its own widget...04:31
Riddellraphink: have you done anything with pykdeextensions?04:31
Hobbseewoohoo!04:31
HobbseeRiddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2629 please upload :)04:32
abattoirRiddell: so i'm checking out his bzr archive now...04:33
RiddellHobbsee: checking04:34
abattoiri'll check out the GTK+ interface and the backend...04:34
Hobbseewhat do we do for those not usign the MoM, with the upload scripts?  it's dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -v[oldversionnumber]  && dpkg-genchanges -S -sa -v[oldversionnumber]  isnt it?04:34
abattoirRiddell: and then get back to you04:34
Hobbseeand upload to revu.  where toma doesnt have an account.04:34
Riddelldebuild -S -sa -v[oldversionnumber] 04:35
Riddellor upload to anywhere else04:35
Riddelljust so long as its not forgotten about04:35
tomauploading in your chroot ;-)04:36
tomadone04:36
tomathat was fast ;-)04:36
Hobbseenice04:37
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Riddell\sh: python-sip4: Conflicts: python2.4-sip4-qt3 but 4.3.2-0ubuntu2 is to be installed04:48
tomaRiddell: put the digikamimageplugins at kubuntu.omat.nl, it can not be synced, because it needs libfam.la, added that dependency. All with help of Hobbsee...04:54
Hobbsee:)04:54
Riddelltoma: it does?04:55
Riddelltoma: what for?04:55
tomaRiddell: did not check that04:55
Riddellthat's probably just a result of the chroot being out of date04:56
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\shRiddell: sync went fine04:58
HobbseeRiddell: i updated the pbuilder04:58
Hobbsees/pbuilder/chroot04:58
Riddell\sh: but I can't install python-sip4 and python2.4-sip4-qt304:59
tomahmm, oki, then it can be synced. 04:59
HobbseeRiddell: could you upload http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2630 as well please?04:59
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HobbseeRiddell: or have you not finished the last one yet?05:00
\shRiddell: hmm...https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/sip4-qt3/4.4.5-205:00
\shRiddell: 4.4.5-2 is latest in edgy05:00
RiddellHobbsee: kwave uploaded, please send change to debian maintainer05:01
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\shRiddell: if not, I have to check tomorrow morning05:01
RiddellHobbsee: or just apply for MOTU :)05:02
HobbseeRiddell: the meetings are at 6am!!!05:02
HobbseeRiddell: but i'm very tempted to05:02
Hobbseebddebian: ping?05:02
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Hobbseeoh that's right, just the dh_iconcache05:03
bddebianHobbsee: Yo05:03
Hobbseebddebian: want to upload a package for me?  please?  it'd be cruel to make Riddell do all of mine :P05:04
tomaRiddell: can you say 'yes' to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/digikamimageplugins/+bug/5223805:04
UbugtuMalone bug 52238 in digikamimageplugins "Please sync with debian" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  05:04
RiddellHobbsee: ksensors uploaded05:05
Hobbseetoma: i thought you said you couldnt sync that...05:05
HobbseeRiddell: thankyou :)05:05
bddebianHobbsee: Bah, I'm sure Riddell is bored.. ;-P05:05
tomaHobbsee: only because of libfam.la, riddel blames that on the chroot05:05
Hobbseehaha05:05
bddebianHobbsee: j/k.  Sure, give me a link05:05
RiddellHobbsee: and send the change to the debian maintainer05:05
HobbseeRiddell: both of them?  okay05:06
RiddellHobbsee: different maintainers (I assume)05:06
Hobbseebddebian: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2631  <-- had to wait for it to hit revu05:06
HobbseeRiddell: i assume so too.05:06
seaLnecan anyone suggest what might cause the following error "tar: -: file name read contains nul character" when building a package?05:07
RiddellseaLne: no idea, but it doesn't seem to be causing any problems05:07
seaLneyou've seen it before?05:07
Riddellyes05:08
bddebianHobbsee: No changes to it?05:09
seaLneRiddell: thanks, it didn't seem to be a problem but errors aren't usually good05:09
Riddelltoma: libdigikam.la and libkipi.la need rebuilt05:10
Riddellthen it can be synced05:10
Hobbseebddebian: no, there are changes in config.guess and config.sub05:11
Hobbseebddebian: i manually merged that oen05:11
Hobbseehas it borked on me?05:11
bddebianHobbsee: Well you don't say that in the changelog :-)05:11
tomaRiddell: why?05:11
Hobbseebddebian: what's the changelog say?05:11
Riddelltoma: they need rebuilt to not use libfam.la05:12
Hobbseebddebian: should have just been "sync from debian" or what the mom gives.05:12
bddebian  * Merge from debian unstable.05:12
Hobbseebddebian: that would be correct.05:12
bddebianOhh, you stuck the Ubuntu changelog entry earlier, never mind... :-)05:12
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Hobbseebddebian: MOM did, yeah :P05:13
tomaRiddell: oki, how do i arrange that?05:13
nixternalmoins Hobbsee, bddebian, Riddell, toma, seaLne ;)05:13
bddebianHeya nixternal05:13
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tomahi nixternal05:14
nixternalhello05:14
Riddelltoma: I'm doing it now, just needs thrown back up05:14
nixternalhiya jsgotangco05:14
Hobbseehi nixternal 05:14
jsgotangcohello05:14
Hobbseeanyone remember what the story was with libhamlib-dev?05:14
Riddelltoma: once they've both compiled and entered the archives you can subscribe ubuntu-archive to that merge request05:14
Hobbseebddebian: was it you who told me what it was renamed to?05:14
RiddellHobbsee: never heard of it05:14
Hobbseehmmm...some MOTU told me...05:14
bddebianHobbsee: Yeah, give me a sec05:14
tomaRiddell: oki05:15
bddebianOh, I think it's just hamlib-dev05:15
Hobbseebddebian: not that i can see, and not that this chroot finds.05:16
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seaLnecan anyone point me at how to get a package to not install a file?05:21
RiddellseaLne: depends on where the file is05:22
RiddellseaLne: rm -f in debian/rules install will do it05:22
seaLnerm -f $(DESTDIR)/usr/bin/ident05:23
seaLne?05:23
Riddellyeah05:24
seaLneah infact i can not get it to build it05:25
Hobbseebddebian: did that end up working out?05:28
bddebianHobbsee: Yep, uploading now05:28
Hobbseebddebian: nice, i've just revu'd another one05:29
Hobbseewonder when i have to go to work tomorrow.05:29
tomaRiddell: raphink has rebuild kipi-plugins for the libfam.la issue as well05:29
Riddellhe has?05:29
bddebianWell isn't that special Hobbsee ;-P05:29
Hobbsee10am - darn.05:29
tomaRiddell: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/kipi-plugins/+changelog05:29
Hobbseebddebian: :P05:29
Riddelloh tsk to raphink 05:30
Hobbseebddebian: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2633 <-- upload please :)05:30
raphinkRiddell: what?05:30
Hobbseeor whoever wants to do it05:30
Riddellraphink: the problem is in libkipi which needs to be rebuild to not know about libfam.la (I've just done that), so the fam dependency on kipi-plugins can then be removed05:31
Hobbseeack!  i've almost done all of my original uploads now!05:31
raphinkRiddell: ah ok :s05:31
raphinkwell it woulnd't build without it05:31
raphinkand I hadn't tried with the new libkipi sorry05:31
Riddellraphink: that's because libkipi needed a rebuild05:31
raphinknow I've requested the sync for the new libkipi05:32
raphinkso it's synced05:32
raphinkso we could remove this dep now05:32
raphinksorry for this05:32
Riddellraphink: when did that happen?05:32
Riddellno problem05:32
raphinkRiddell: when did what happen? libkipi sync?05:32
Riddellraphink: yes05:33
raphinka week ago it seems05:33
raphinkon the 29th of june05:33
raphinkI merged it05:33
raphinkand you modified it since05:33
Riddellraphink: yeah, that was too long ago for the libfam stuff05:33
Riddellyou were just too quick that's all :)05:33
raphinkyes05:34
raphinkI knnow05:34
raphinkI requested the sync of kipi-plugins before merging libkipi05:34
raphinkon the same day05:34
raphinkbut just before 05:34
raphinkand it was treated right when I asked for it05:34
raphinkor at least libkipi wasn't rebuilt when kipi-plugin was rebuilt05:34
raphinkso my fault05:34
raphinkI should know better ;)05:35
Hobbseeon second thoughts, i think i'll finish my merges before stealing other peoples.05:39
bddebianheh05:40
bddebianPlease, steal mine ;-)05:40
Hobbsee[01:30]  <Hobbsee> bddebian: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2633 <-- upload please :) <-- has that happened yet?05:40
Hobbseehehe05:40
bddebianDamn woman05:40
bddebianI'm test building now05:40
Hobbseebddebian: just checking, as i'm about to go to bed :P05:41
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bddebian:-)05:41
Hobbseeand i didnt want to forget about it, and find that it was still on that list, when i no longer had a copy of it, and remembered nothing about it.05:41
seaLneany makefile experts able to have a look at http://pastebin.ca/81508 and http://pastebin.ca/81506 and tell me what i'm doing wrong at line 13 of 81506?  i want to change the name of the binary it builds05:42
RiddellseaLne: is there no Makefile.am?05:44
seaLnenope05:44
RiddellseaLne: what's it doing when you make that change?05:45
seaLne-o is the file it should create isn't it?05:45
seaLneit dosen't build anything05:45
Riddellyou may need to change the name of the target too $(D)ident: -> $(D)affident:05:45
seaLnenope05:46
bddebianHobbsee: Uploading05:47
Hobbseebddebian: thankyou :)05:48
seaLnenope == nope didn't fix it05:48
RiddellseaLne: you could just mv the binary once it's compiled05:48
seaLne:)05:48
seaLneinside DESTDIR?05:48
seaLneat what stage05:48
seaLneafter $(MAKE) install DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/afflib ?05:49
Riddellyes05:50
Hobbseei'm happy :)  my name is on the edgy changes list a few times now :)05:51
seaLneheh05:51
Hobbseeokay, night all.05:56
Hobbseework in 8 hours - argh.05:56
seaLneRiddell: mv /usr/bin/ident /usr/bin/affident05:57
seaLnemv: cannot stat `/usr/bin/ident': No such file or directory05:57
seaLnemake: *** [install-arch]  Error 105:57
seaLnei put it in install-arch: between $(MAKE) install DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/afflib and dh_install -s05:59
RiddellseaLne: what's the mv line you put in?06:00
seaLnemv $(DESTDIR)/usr/bin/ident $(DESTDIR)/usr/bin/affident06:00
Riddelltry $(CURDIR)/debian/usr/bin/ident06:01
seaLneah i see my problem $(DESTDIR) is no longer visable06:01
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seaLneRiddell: thanks that worked06:09
Riddellyay06:11
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tomaRiddell: i've merged the debian package and ubuntu packaged to something new, can you take a look? http://kubuntu.omat.nl06:21
tomaRiddell: subject is kscope06:21
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Riddelltoma: looking06:25
Riddelltoma: you need to sync the changelogs too06:26
tomatake the entries of both changelogs?06:27
Riddellyes06:27
toma+all06:27
Riddelland send kubuntu_02_xdg.diff to the upstream author06:27
tomak06:28
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seaLneRiddell: (or anyone else) if you have a chance could you look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2635 ?06:30
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Tonio_hey06:33
Riddellhi toma 06:33
RiddellTonio_: 06:33
RiddellTonio_: you've claimed a bunch of merges on KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates, are you going to do those soon?06:33
Tonio_Riddell: I will start uploads of my packages on universe this we and raphink is gonna upload my packages for main probably06:34
Riddellgreat06:34
Tonio_arf, just a second late :)06:34
Tonio_Riddell: everything will be uploaded this we06:34
Riddellgreat06:34
RiddellI'm away this weekend, but hopefully raphink or other can upload to main06:34
Riddell\sh_away might be around06:34
Tonio_Riddell: also, I've tested latest kwlan, it should really replace wlassistant.... it becomes really mature now06:35
Tonio_Riddell: as \sh_away recover his upload rights ?06:35
Riddellok, I'll take a look at that sometime06:35
Riddellyes he has06:35
Tonio_great ;)06:35
Tonio_once I've done the big work for edgy, I'll try core-dev... it is time now06:35
Riddellagreed06:36
tomaRiddell: fixed the changelog, download from same location.06:47
Tonio_Riddell: do we give priority to latest updates or stable versions ?06:49
Tonio_for example gwenview has a new version considered unstable but that works correctly...06:49
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tomatest09:54
Luretoma: success ;-)09:54
tomaLure: all traffic stopped all of a sudden. I was just wondering if it was my client ;0-09:55
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tomaTonio_: have you ever used kscope?10:02
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tomaRiddell: amd64 build digikam failed: grep: /usr/lib/libfam.la: No such file or directory11:13
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