=== bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === gaz00 [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === gaz00 [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === gaz00 [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === gaz00 [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === adamant1988 [n=adam@h-141-153-101-95.ckb.meer.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [03:17] Hello all :) === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@dialup-4.159.11.21.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/KampingKaiser/x-3453498] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === j_baer [n=baerj@c-24-11-169-4.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:20] hi adamant1988 [04:20] an hour later :p [04:21] hi hybrid lol === cosmolax [n=Cosmolax@219-68-130-176.adsl.dynamic.giga.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/KampingKaiser/x-3453498] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:48] so... how's everyone? [06:49] about as good as one can get i guess [06:53] that works... [06:53] nixternal I'm working on a project to push linux in the school and in the community [06:53] do you think Id' be best to use K/ubuntu or Xandros? [06:53] sweet [06:54] i have been working with my church on pushing Edubuntu and hopefully setting up a lab for kids at the church [06:54] yeah this is an economically depressed area... [06:54] What I *want* to do is push ubuntu, but I feel that there's a better chance of success if the experience is made as 'friendly' as possible [06:57] exact same thing here..what a coincidence [06:58] we just did a setup with 40 pc's for 2 underpriviledged areas in chicago with 1/2 Edubuntu and 1/2 Windows XP actually provided by Bill & Melinda Gates [06:59] however, it was just Windows XP, and there is no money for software...however the Edubuntu machines seem to be the kids favorites [07:00] yeah [07:01] well, xandros is cheep and supported is the thing [07:01] and there's documentation [07:01] yup [07:02] so idk... === bimberi_ [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === derekmorton25 [n=derek@ip70-173-237-86.fv.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === nixternal [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === nixternal [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mindspin [n=mindspin@pD95FECC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === RichJ [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === nixternal [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === hybrid [n=666@easyubuntu/supporter/hybrid] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === nixternal [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === hybrid [n=666@easyubuntu/supporter/hybrid] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === adamant1988 [n=adam@h-141-153-101-95.ckb.meer.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [09:45] hello all [09:46] moin [09:47] hi [09:58] holas === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === silbs [n=jane@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === hybrid [n=666@easyubuntu/supporter/hybrid] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === darkmatter_ [n=darkmatt@206-163-248-177.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === hybrid [n=666@easyubuntu/supporter/hybrid] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rikai [i=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === cosmolax [n=Cosmolax@219-68-130-176.adsl.dynamic.giga.net.tw] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] === silbs [n=jane@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === darkmatter__ [n=darkmatt@206-163-248-177.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === darkmatter_ [n=darkmatt@206-163-248-177.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === nickm1 [n=nickm@81.168.52.43] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MenZa [n=chatzill@0x50a1602e.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === dabearWIN [n=dabear__@84.236.234.231] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === `6og [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/KampingKaiser/x-3453498] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === PlHL [n=pihl@port134.ds1-gjp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:01] Hi People [02:01] Hi there [02:01] <`6og> hey :) [02:02] My ten CD's just arrived from shipit this morning - nice [02:03] <`6og> :D [02:03] I was wondering: Those stickers that followed... Is it possible to order them somewhere without the CD's? And if not, shouldn't that be something for the marketing team to make sure of+ [02:04] I did not get any stickers [02:05] Perhaps it's something new? Or just a mistake..:P' [02:05] <`6og> no, some people get them === `6og didnt, perhaps only for ubuntu? [02:05] I heard that kubuntu stickers are also being sent out [02:06] <`6og> hm. i didnt get any :| [02:10] my package had ubuntu, kubuntu and edubuntu - 12 stickers, all ubuntu [02:10] ditto [02:11] my package included no stickers at all === `6og ordered all 3, had all 3 on the cover, but only had edu and Kubuntu, with no sticker s :| [02:13] mine was same as bimberi [02:13] none of the cds will install but the stickers are cool [02:13] hehe === `6og shrugs [02:14] gnomefreak: :(( [02:14] <`6og> gnomefreak: :(* that's sus [02:14] I'd like to have some posters for my window, because about 50000 people are passing by over the year... === bimberi decides to test his CDs [02:14] yep but seems most people are running into that [02:15] bimberi: sad part it happens are the partitioner [02:15] killing your drive testing them sucks [02:15] <`6og> the partitioner was a bugbear from the start... it's caused quite some issues [02:16] brb [02:16] i failed in upgrading, wiped away my partitions with live cd and finally took alternate cd to reinstall [02:16] maybe I should test the shipit cds before giving them away ;-) [02:17] <`6og> not much you can do - if it's buggy it's bugy [02:17] if they are buggy, I#ll kick it away... [02:18] <`6og> well it's all or none ;) they don't have special bugs per cd [02:18] or add a selfburned alternate cd to each live cd [02:18] gnomefreak: ah, hm, i'll leave it till i'm back at work then (got an old pc there that i just do installs on) [02:19] if that is true, its a waste of resources in my eyes [02:19] <`6og> i havent had issues, but i just wipe drive -> install [02:19] mindspin: yes, i'm keeping breezy sleeves for that purpose too === `6og displikes the live cd installer, give me d-i anyday === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/KampingKaiser/x-3453498] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === synchronboy [i=synchron@silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MagicFab [n=magicfab@modemcable212.240-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mindspin [n=mindspin@pD95FECC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === darkmatter_ [n=darkmatt@206-163-248-177.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === synchronboy [i=synchron@silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MagicFab [n=magicfab@modemcable212.240-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mdke_ [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mindspin [n=mindspin@pD95FECC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:22] matthewrevell: are you alive? [05:33] mindspin: Sorry, yes, I'm here, and alive :) [05:34] moinmoin === MagicFab [n=magicfab@modemcable113.78-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:34] yo [05:37] hey [05:37] I'd like to add a page/part to the media-team wiki [05:42] The Ubuntu Marketing Team is ran by the community. We share a common goal among the rest of the Ubuntu community, and that is to squash Bug #1. In order to reach this goal, the Ubuntu Marketing Team will collaborate on various levels in a grassroots SpreadUbuntu marketing campaign. [05:42] that is an intro for the upcoming MT wiki page [05:42] give me some ideas please [05:42] that is a draft...input needed ;) [05:42] is ran? [05:42] hiya mdke [05:42] hi === mdke slaps nixternal with a grammar stick [05:43] uh oh [05:43] haha [05:43] i just typed that quick to give an idea === nixternal needs feedback from the community ;) [05:43] i thought something similar was there already [05:43] the second sentence sounds very "formal" to me [05:43] mdke: from now on smack me with the grammer fish..it doesn't hurt as bad, but makes ya stink ;) [05:44] ok === MenZa [n=chatzill@0x5358618b.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:45] there is a MT purpose now, but it is big and vague..this is really just a 2 or 3 line intro to the marketing team [05:45] that is what i am really looking for [05:45] maybe the mailing list will be the best place for this [05:45] yup [05:46] it needs some time to play around with text.. [05:46] exactly [05:46] i will do that [05:46] i will add a couple of things in there for feedback [05:46] matthewrevell: I'd like to add a page/part to the media-team wiki === Kamping_Kaiser rsyncs off laptop [05:47] to expose my idea of "give ubuntu to journalists and let them write about" idea === matthewrevell returns from phone call [05:48] ah [05:49] mindspin: Sounds good to me :) [05:49] I thought that media team was going to be closed? [05:49] nixternal: I tried to put up a vague-ish but fairly concise intro to the MT on the wiki, but Jendatook a pretty big dislike to it :( [05:49] mdke: Media project, within the marketing team. [05:50] how do i add a new (sub)page ? I think it would be better to give sideprojects extra pages [05:50] matthewrevell: right, I read team [05:50] nixternal: I think we need to bash out an idea of what we're about, on the ML, before we try to sum it up [05:50] well...he tasked me with it and gave me full run, if you have comments or suggestions on how a design should be, then you can add it to the email im working on...if he dislikes it and we all like it, well this being a communtiy, guess who wins ;) [05:50] mdke: Sorry, I'm in the habit of saying "team" as "media project" sounds like some kinda video shoot :) [05:50] yup [05:51] media branch of the marketing team ;-) [05:51] matthewrevell: not from you, mindspin said "the media-team wiki" [05:51] anyway, i get it now [05:51] nixternal: As you say, it's a community, so I think it's best we bash it out on the list. No offence to Jenda, but I'm not sure he's in a position to task people with things :) [05:52] In that we're going for a flat team, where we're all equals etc [05:52] indeed [05:52] nixternal: My suggestion would be that you add to the thread on the ML [05:53] i will put ideas in the list and ask for ideas back then [05:53] Cool. The team has enough momentum now, I believe, that we can discuss things on the list, then make decisions, rather than act unilaterally. [05:53] I think unilateral action works best when there are only a couple of people doing anything. [05:54] atm its called press team ..... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PressTeam [05:54] Now we're starting to function more like a proper team. [05:54] Which rocks [05:54] mindspin: Yeah, sorry, I need to whack a redirect in there. [05:54] mindspin: Short on time at the mo :( [05:55] we need a "workspace" anyway, to collect the results of mailinglist discussions [05:56] klepas: ping [05:56] mindspin: What do you have in mind? A weekly summary on the wiki? [05:56] no but if a discussion is finished, and we have results, they should be documented somewhere [05:57] mindspin: sounds good to me [05:57] launchpad should do it but I'm unsure how to manage it [05:58] I'm not particularly familiar with LP :( [05:58] so am I [05:59] Big decisions would get discussed on the ML, then voted on in irc meetings, then we could probably decide smaller stuff on the ML. A wiki page would do for now, while we look into the LP way of doing it [05:59] but there was the idea of handling sub-projects as bugs, or specifications, but honestly I didn't understand it at all [05:59] mindspin: Ah yeah. [06:00] mindspin: It's something I need to look into, so I understand it. I'm sure it's all pretty simple, but time is short for me atm. [06:00] yup [06:01] so I 'll put my "give ubuntu ..." idea on the agenda for the next meeting [06:01] mindspin: specs in LP are just a way of tracking things - the actual spec goes in the wiki as I understand it [06:01] mindspin: Yeah, I'll reply to your mail in the ML. Perhaps you could post a link in the ML to the discussion where you asked silbs abou tit [06:02] so feel free to ignore LP atm [06:02] s/tit/it [06:02] thanks ormiret === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-54-168.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:02] matthewrevell: you mean the irc log? [06:03] mindspin: Yeah [06:03] ok [06:03] klepas: Your SVG for Ubuntu Magazine: should it be just a small portion of a page? === MagicFab [n=magicfab@modemcable212.240-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:05] matthewrevell: I got more when I opened in sodipodi [06:05] hello all [06:06] adamant1988: Howdy [06:06] how's everyone today? [06:06] ormiret: I'm using Eye of Gnome. [06:06] ormiret: Running from a live CD, due to dead computer, so can't install Inkscape. [06:06] adamant1988: Not bad thanks, you? [06:09] I'm working on my project lol. [06:09] I'm still trying to decide between ubuntu and xandros for my community project [06:11] Ubuntu has the benefit of being free in both senses and is more regularly updated, AFAIK. [06:11] matthewrevell: png of the whole thing : http://ormiret.com/ubuntumagazine.png [06:13] ormiret: Nice, thanks [06:15] matthewrevell, my only thing is that crossover comes standard in xandros (which is good for people in my community) [06:17] I prefer ubuntu though :) [06:17] one thing if i could suggest guys, just for ease of search/location...is put all your marketing wiki pages containing ideas and what not under MarketingTeam/ [06:18] this way here, it will be easy to do an auto link generation for navigation later on [06:18] when are there going to be forums available for the marketing team (again, I guess?) [06:18] never afaik [06:18] ubuntuforums.com said they would give us space if needed [06:19] adamant1988: it was decided at the meeting we could live without them [06:19] however, do we really need forums with the use of the mailing list? [06:19] forums are for discusions and the mailinglist too so I think we deceided at last meeting [06:19] actually...i think the forums would be good...this way here people not on the list or scouring the wiki would get introduced to our concept [06:20] I'm ashamed and all, but I don't know how to participate in the mailing list. [06:20] hehe [06:20] adamant1988: aren't you on the launchpad? [06:20] I get the volumes but I don't know how to reply to the individual 'posts'. [06:20] Yeah. [06:20] doesn't that put you on the list? [06:20] you reply to the list, not to the individual [06:20] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing [06:20] so reply to the volume? [06:21] you don't get each one individually..you get a digest [06:21] go to the link mindspin posted and change the "receive as digest" to "NO" [06:21] then you will get individual emails to work with [06:22] yay, lol. [06:22] adamant1988: Then use your mailing software to automatically pop the mailing list emails into a special foler [06:22] I was wondering how to work that out. [06:22] s/foler/folder [06:22] That way you don't get your inbox overloaded [06:22] yeah I was doing that anyway [06:22] cool [06:22] whoa..i decided to take a look at my filters...104 filters and counting [06:22] its a wonder how kmail continues to function [06:23] matthewrevell: pong [06:24] I use gmail lol [06:24] I want a good mail account that I can use through a program like kmail or evolution [06:24] klepas: Sorry, was just trying to get a full version of the ubuntu mag png. Ormiret sorted me [06:24] Looks great. [06:24] Will post to list [06:24] cool [06:25] i was just messing around - it's nothing concrete - but i'd be happy to polish up anything you folks want [06:26] nixternal: another kubuntian ;-) [06:26] oh yes [06:27] KDE is my life [06:27] ;) [06:27] i have been with KDE since 1.0 [06:27] lol I feel like a traitor using kubuntu -_- [06:27] me too [06:27] i have used others and like them just as well, but KDE is my style [06:27] nope [06:27] that was for adamant1988 [06:27] haha [06:27] lol [06:28] Why wasn't KDE just offered as an option at install like with suse? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:28] adamant1988: that would take more than one cd [06:28] its kinda "historical" imh [06:28] o [06:29] and indeed the space issue [06:29] ok the space thing I understand. [06:30] So... I got an idea... [06:30] no, no dvds [06:30] and I don't know if this is something you guys might be interested in doing... [06:31] But what about a site (or section of one) dedicated to Ubuntu projects around the world or in specific areas... Like community projects, etc. [06:32] If the smaller projects get some press from the ubuntu site there would be more popping up, a sort of "Hey, I can do that" thing. [06:32] adamant1988: deffineitely something we should be dcumenting /helping (with the LoCo teams) [06:33] if you write something about what youa re doing that ought to get the ball rolling [06:34] Case in point: I'm working on a project for my school system and then my town. I've worked out a deal with system76 for a free koala mini for my school to use. I'm producing documentation, pamphlets, studies, research papers, etc. to show my (economically strapped) town that there is a solution to Windows. [06:34] where do you live adamant1988? [06:34] Elkins, WV. [06:35] WV =west virginia ? [06:35] Yes. [06:35] ic [06:35] There's even talk of setting up a linux demo center and a local linux group to run it. === MagicFab [n=magicfab@modemcable212.240-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:35] the docs/ pamphlets are the kind of thing that SU should have [06:36] save the next person to try this having to write them from scratch [06:36] and I've already collected 6 older PCs to run light versions of linux on. [06:36] I can provide them, that's not a big deal. [06:37] you should consider using xubuntu on them [06:37] I'm going to talk to the local printing store about printing my pamphlets etc. [06:37] and the local computer store about getting more up to date hardware for my linux system. [06:38] for the demo I mean [06:38] point is, I know I'm not the only one with such a project going on. and good press helps these projects and helps to get more people starting them or getting involved. [06:39] why should press write aboute it ? === mindspin playing advocatus diabolo [06:40] v [06:40] adamant1988: if you write up what you are doing it can probably get on the fridge or in UWN so you can inspire others to follow [06:40] local press is interested in mine. But I think that having an ubuntu site that helps to make people aware of these projects (like a little headline site or such) will generate more and more projects [06:40] more projects based on ubuntu is, of course, good advertising for ubuntu. [06:41] adn it is exactly the kind of thing to go in SU when we get it running [06:41] it is [06:41] call it case studies, call it testimonials, call it examples it will be good [06:42] I mean there's no better advertising than advertising tailor-made to the community it's being done in, right? It saves us some work (the marketing team) and it helps push the 'community' nature of ubuntu [06:44] I'll even help manage it myself if need be. [06:46] adamant1988: a great start would be putting up a wikipage detailing what you're doing - then you or others can write articles from that for different places [06:46] Ok, I haven't edited the wiki much, or ever. [06:46] Do I put this in the marketing team wiki or what? [06:47] oh wait [06:47] not the ubuntu wiki, I'm confused... [06:47] probably something off MarketingTeam/ would be a good bet [06:48] ormiret how do I add asupbage to the MarketingTeam wiki? [06:48] a sub-page [06:49] goto wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/[name of page goes here] and you get a page with a link to create a new page with that name [06:49] ah very handy [06:50] I just didn't want to add things up at the bottom of the site [06:52] anything you think should be int he wiki put it in - that's what its for :) [06:53] don't worry overly much about cluttering it up, too much content is much better than too little [06:53] so I should just add a sub page as well? [06:53] I#m used to cms but not to wiki, it was a pain for me when I first edited a wikipage ;-) [06:55] adamant1988: yes, it will go to SU eventually but you can put it in the wiki now [06:55] ok... what exactly is spreadubuntu? [06:56] going to be a site about helping people to do things to spread the word about ubuntu (pretty much exactly what you were talking about ;) ) [06:57] haha, cool. :) [06:57] that is a discusion in progress imho, newz2000 had a nice post to the list about it [06:57] I'm here, happy to provide any additional info if you'd like [06:58] I replied to it and think we have to discuss it further [06:59] we= marketing team, not you and me ;-) [07:00] I just wanted to toss it out there for food for thought. The team can do whatever it thinks is best and I'm happy to help however I can. [07:01] I've got planned a wiki upgrade to go to 1.5 of Moin, which actually makes things a lot easier [07:01] I don't have a timeline yet, but the wiki upgrade might make it more useful for you [07:01] newz2000: I 'll hope there will be some more replies to your post [07:02] I hope that I didn't sound to pushy. ;-) I just wanted to toss out my ideas. [07:03] no you are absolutely right (I agree with about 75% of your post ;-) [07:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/WikiMockup [07:03] ^^ that is the mock up to work from there [07:04] so that email everyone received, will be implemented into this mockup, voted upon, and issued one of these days ;) === darkmatter_ [n=darkmatt@206-163-248-177.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:05] have you seen some sites that do an especially good job of communicationg a message similar to what you hope to communicate? [07:05] not yet, beside the ubuntu main page.... [07:06] I didn't see spreadfirefox at all before [07:07] I'm redoing the bzr website and mark suggested www.rubyonrails.org as inspiration [07:07] It does a great job of keeping a narrow focus and communicating a simple message. [07:07] Maybe there's something there you could use [07:07] Also, I've always thought the mozilla website was good as well. [07:09] Spread Ubuntu is a big project 0_0. [07:09] is that interactive desktop looking likely at all? [07:09] rubyonrails does not relly look good to me... [07:10] narrow focus and simplicity lokks slightly different for me... [07:11] but those are the keywords for me [07:12] I'd start making a list of sites and find things you like and dislike about them. Then when you want to make a design you'll know what you want. [07:12] and the idea of building acommunity of spreaders sounds smart [07:12] I have an idea for a logo for it [07:13] :) I'm going to pan it out really quick [07:13] newz2000: you know, i have been looking over the fedora core projects wiki, as they have a pretty decent setup for inspiration [07:13] Say, "I like this site's nav bar because ___" or "I don't like the rails site because ___" [07:13] plus nice buttons for the websites, signatures, caps, shirts stickers and posters would be cool [07:13] i tend to look at microsoft too ;( [07:13] nixternal: what page are you looking at? [07:13] newz2000: all of them [07:13] lol [07:13] microsoft and redhat both have good sites for inspiration, but I think they might be built for a wider focus [07:13] yup [07:13] nixternal: do you have a link? [07:14] i use them and SuSe also [07:14] for fc wiki [07:14] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki [07:14] what do you like? [07:16] they use moin as well [07:17] ;-) [07:17] their layouts are clean and precise [07:17] nite klepas_Zzz [07:18] I like mine.... http://www.mindspin-cms-hosting.de/ [07:18] nice [07:19] to bad i have a hard enough time reading english let alone another language ;) [07:19] hehe [07:19] I'd start making a list on the wiki of pages that you like and don't like. [07:19] But be specific. [07:20] I'm sure that between the marketing team, the art team and others in the community we can come up with a great looking design for this project. [07:20] I would prefer a site which has the cd of the ubuntu main page, to be honest [07:20] I know there are several people itching to help out [07:20] are we referring to the Spread Ubuntu project or just our wiki page? [07:21] I guess its the SU project [07:21] ahh [07:21] I played around with the design of the ubuntu page, but I just started... [07:22] with SU i can help with content, but i stink with design ;) [07:22] like newz2000 said, art team and others itching, as they would be a heck of lot more usefull then i would be ;) [07:22] I can help with html and css but not with graphics [07:23] I wasn't precluding you two from helping, but there is an ubelievable amount and variety of tallent available just itching to help [07:23] yup [07:23] So mindspin can do css, someone else can do art, someone else can direct [07:23] you know what..i could be a heck of a marketer right now for the gimp project...as i am horrible with graphics, but yet gimp is so much easier to use, comes with a ton of scripts, and is free..which blows ps out of the water [07:24] exactly newz2000...i think with your input and motivation too, it shoudn't be a difficult task for the team to hack it out im sure [07:25] its nice to have Canonical support and very much appreciated. I believe it makes the team feel closer to the core so-to-speak [07:25] no it shouldn't but its a question of decision making, do we want to create a different look for the site or not? [07:25] Mindspin, are you talking about su? [07:25] mindspin: my opinion, make it look like Ubuntu.com, but make it nicer ;) [07:25] yup [07:25] make Ubuntu.com want to change to our look ;) [07:25] Sounds good [07:25] that would be my opinion too [07:26] although, the forums changing to the Ubuntu.com look wasn't that great of an idea ;( [07:26] to me, i think they would be hard to read for the new guy [07:26] I will admit the look of ubuntu.com is decided from above (mark et al) [07:26] Also, the ubuntu site is schedules for a touch-up later this season [07:26] time to make it edgy ;) [07:27] you know what...the human colors are growing on me big time [07:27] i very dislike the colors (kubuntu looks much "fresher" to me) [07:27] haha [07:27] ha [07:27] can't make everyone happy. [07:27] mindspin: i have switched away just today from the Kubuntu theme because it is to bold...human is refreshing actually === Cody [n=pumpers@d4-168.rt-bras.ob.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Cody [n=pumpers@d4-168.rt-bras.ob.centurytel.net] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] [07:28] maybe brown is a bit itchy for germans ;-) [07:28] i was originally against the human theme for Kubuntu, but it might not be a bad idea...i mean Ubuntu in itself supports a togetherness..and all this sepearation goes against the definition i think [07:28] haha mindspin [07:30] togetherness does not mean uniformity for me... [07:30] true [07:31] very good point actually..because diversity makes a community stronger...and in that aspect, the diversity of the "flavors" of Ubuntu...i like it [07:31] togetherness + diversity = Spread Ubuntu now!!! [07:31] mark has explicitly said he wants kubuntu and ubuntu to be distinct [07:32] There should be synergy between the designs so you know they're related (I'm interpreting his response now by the way) but colors should make the separate. [07:32] in their look I guess [07:33] But the kubuntu guys have already asked for help with their website. I think there's a spec. [07:33] kubuntu website needs help, no doubt [07:33] so SU has to contain the look of all ubuntian flavours [07:33] mindspin, maybe, maybe not [07:34] I think the links to the sveral flavours will show the distinct colors [07:34] i think that the colors used in Xubuntu and Ubuntu definately blend better then the ones in Kubuntu...my 2 cents of course [07:35] I'll keep playing around with it and will show the result when its presenteable === nixternal can't wait to see it [07:36] ok. I'm gonna break for lunch soon and need to finish up a few tasks. ping me if you need me. [07:36] but keep in mind that all the graphics will be "stolen" [07:36] yup, bye [07:36] btw. my stomach is calling too... [07:37] @now berlin [07:37] hehe...mine too [07:37] newz2000: where are you at if you are breaking for lunch? [07:37] Des Moines Iowa, USA. [07:37] it is lunch time here [07:37] ahh [07:37] chciago here [07:38] chicago too [07:38] frankfurt germany (not kentucky) here [07:38] hahaha [07:38] 7.30 pm here [07:38] im in hanover park illinois, not hanover germany ;) [07:38] haha [07:38] although hanover germany is our sister city [07:39] my SO was visiting chicago and milwaukee this spring [07:39] and she was very impressed [07:39] heh, she must of made a quick pass through to be impressed..because after a few hours you won't be impressed anymore...you will either be opressed or depressed [07:40] no never [07:40] i always said, if you enjoy smelling the person next to you, you will love chicago ;) [07:40] she liked it especially wisconsin is very similiar to our region [07:41] and partner state of hesse [07:41] wisconsin can be beautiful...but milwaukee is far from that...you have the rolling hills and nice greenery in wisconsin [07:42] madison was her favourite [07:42] she said it was far more "european" than she thought before [07:44] I got to have some food..... I will lurk in later, === MagicFab [n=magicfab@modemcable113.78-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === _sara [n=sara@pool-70-17-33-13.pskn.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:59] I made a logo mockup for spreadubuntu... [08:03] <_sara> can I take a look at it [08:05] sure... I don't think it's very good it's just a concept... [08:08] <_sara> well a concept is a place to start I have some that I was sent and I want to post all of the art work in one place === MagicFab_ [n=magicfab@modemcable113.78-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:08] http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/9306/logomockup7xb.jpg =\ [08:08] i'm still really new to inkscape [08:09] <_sara> I lek the concept [08:09] Vector has never been my thing =\ [08:10] <_sara> you can always drwa it by hand and poste it [08:10] <_sara> I find tha tsometime tracing over my hand drwaings is the best thing to do [08:10] no I mean I like doing stuff like this. http://dismalmuse.deviantart.com/ [08:11] <_sara> ohh that is a total different thing [08:12] Yeah, I know [08:12] =\ [08:12] I'm good at doing wallpapers and tiny abstract graphics, but vector has always been my downfall =( [08:12] <_sara> yeah vector is hard [08:13] <_sara> What you don't like about the logo [08:14] what? [08:14] <_sara> You said that you dond't think is very good [08:15] <_sara> but I don't quiet understand what you don't like? [08:15] The globe isn't what I think it should be (not detailed enough but I couldn't find a good stock) and I feel that I didn't do well enough with the gradients, and the vector arrow is off (not all of the sides are in complete agreeance). [08:16] <_sara> ohh, so you know what you want is just an issue of learning inkscape [08:17] I've got the idea in my head [08:17] I'd like to put the whole thing in a glass bubble. [08:17] I had another idea that involved the Ubuntu logo sprouting wings. [08:18] But I don't have near the inkscape knowledge to draw that =\ [08:18] <_sara> I like both ideas with the whole spread ubuntu concept, the spreading the wings thing would benice. I think === matthewrevell [n=matthew@82-37-193-109.cable.ubr05.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:19] <_sara> Maybe you want to post them on the mailing list so you can have more feedback [08:19] Yeah, I don't know at this point I'm just trying to be useful... [08:19] <_sara> if you need a place to hsot them ping me and I host them. beeter thatn image shack [08:20] ok could you? [08:20] I have the svgs but imagshack won't store them [08:20] <_sara> yeah sure jsut send me an e-mail to sara@tikal26.net. Make sure that you put ubuntu marketing int he tiel and I'll host them for you [08:21] <_sara> I think that the svg would be nice for other to play with if you don't mind that [08:21] sure, but I just did a plain svg [08:21] inkscape svgs don't like me [08:22] <_sara> I had problems with the svgs too. I don't know if you saw the e-mail I sent with the ubuntu magazine art work but we had problems with them too [08:22] <_sara> I ahd to make them svg too [08:22] ok just making sure it wasn't just me [08:23] _sara, it's mailing to you now. [08:23] <_sara> yeah so any time you need hosting I can do taht . I would like to collect all art work for spread ubuntu and the magazine and put it on a place for all to see [08:24] I think I could help a little with the magazine [08:24] I haven't seen the latest layout but the original that I saw was kind of bare [08:26] <_sara> yeah its a start, but the good thing is that I think we need to start with some parameters [08:26] <_sara> Like a color palte and stuff. I'll send you what wha tI sent out today [08:28] ok === darkmatter_ [n=darkmatt@206-163-248-177.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:30] do you think that logo is decent enough to at least work with? [08:32] <_sara> I like the concept and what you might need is to spiffy it up a little bit. I think that you have clear idea of what you want is and issue of execution [08:33] <_sara> check you mail [08:34] got it :) [08:34] I'll make a post to the mailing list I with this I guess, or do you want to? === silbs [n=jane@217.205.109.249] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] [08:39] <_sara> go ahead you can do it. [08:39] done [08:40] that file you sent me isn't opening up correctly [08:40] I'm only seeing half the page [08:42] <_sara> you have to right click on it and save as or save target as and then open it on inkscape. [08:42] ok [08:43] <_sara> i just realize the likn is broke too, I had problems with this the wole morning my server has being up and down intermitenly so i will fix that later. I'll fix that sorry about the hasse [08:44] it's ok [08:44] Uhm, the colors on the magazine seem to be really soft [08:45] adamant1988, got a linky for these colours? [08:45] I have the SVG [08:46] _sara do you think we could give the magazine a little more contrast? Everythings so soft it all kind of runs together... [08:47] <_sara> ok I fixed the link it should be working now. [08:48] <_sara> if you have any ideas go ahed. I just ask that you try to stay withing the color palete and if you add any color add it to the palete and send it to me. I am just trying to keep a structure. I think that you could do that by using the colors we have now [08:49] you mean the ubuntu default colors or what? [08:51] <_sara> I mena the color on th svg I sent you. WEll i think it is a simplyfy version of the ubuntu colors [08:52] OH I see it [08:52] duh [08:52] ok, lol... [08:52] actually I think if you made the main bg just a tad darker (orange) it would all show up fine. 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