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crimsunlibxrender ready to be uploaded (when libx11 is NEWed)12:29
KamionI did that not long ago12:46
Kamion(oh, about five minutes after you said that)12:46
crimsunyep, noted :)12:47
Kamiongo ahead and upload it now12:47
Kamionsyncing libxkbfile now too12:47
Kamiondid anyone upload anything that depended on libx11 already?12:49
Kamioner build-depended12:49
crimsundoesn't appear so.12:54
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Mithrandirfabbione: libx11-data needs to replace libx11-6 <= 2:1.0.0-0ubuntu909:50
fabbioneMithrandir: hem no09:51
fabbionewhen i did it, dpkg did send me to hell09:51
fabbioneand couldn't update properly09:51
fabbionewithout the Replace it was doing fine09:51
Mithrandiruh, that's crackful.09:51
fabbionedon't ask me.. i did test with and without because i had the same opinion as your09:52
Mithrandirthere's a file conflict there so it really needs to conflict. :-P09:52
Mithrandirwhat error message did you get?09:52
fabbionei can't remember now09:52
crimsunMithrandir: (libxrender is done)09:52
fabbioneMithrandir: if you want to add it go ahead09:52
fabbioneMithrandir: i am not jalous at all09:52
fabbioneMithrandir: but i need to get a couple of packages into shape before UVF09:53
Mithrandiranyway, we can add that later, I'll just put it on a sticky note here.09:53
fabbioneMithrandir: but did you actually have problems upgrading?=09:53
fabbionebecause i didn't09:53
Mithrandirfabbione: yes, file conflict.09:53
crimsunLOCK libxrandr09:53
fabbioneMithrandir: ok then it's probably best to fix it now09:54
Mithrandirfabbione: nah, it'll just break people's upgrades and I'm more worried about getting the stack bootstrapped, TBH.09:54
Mithrandirit won't trip the buildds09:54
fabbioneyeah i know that09:55
Mithrandirwe'll probably get a bunch of bug reports, though.09:55
Mithrandirlibxext uploaded09:56
fabbioneok i am dojng libx1109:58
fabbionebut i am not going to test it :)09:58
Mithrandirdo you know if rodarvus has his packages somewhere so they can be uploaded?09:59
fabbionenope09:59
Mithrandiryou don't know or you know he doesn't?09:59
ograhmm, http://people.ubuntu.com/~rodarvus/ is pretty empty10:00
fabbionelibx11 uploaded10:03
Mithrandircrimsun: oh, you did libice, excellent.10:05
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crimsunlibxrandr uploaded10:19
seb128hey10:19
crimsunre seb10:20
Mithrandirgrr, I fucked up libxext. :-/  New upload on its way.10:20
seb128don't ban me from that chan but :p10:20
seb128dpkg: erreur de traitement de /var/cache/apt/archives/libx11-data_2%3a1.0.0-7ub untu1_all.deb (--unpack):10:21
seb128 tentative de remplacement de /usr/share/X11/locale/armscii-8/XI18N_OBJS, qu i appartient aussi au paquet libx11-610:21
Mithrandirseb128: fix in incoming.10:21
seb128cool10:21
seb128any ETA to get a libxft-dev installable again?10:22
seb128it makes impossible to work on anything on top of pango10:22
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seb128like block completly any GNOME work10:22
fabbionewe don't care about GNOME10:22
fabbionego away10:22
fabbione:P10:22
seb128ok, fine with me10:23
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crimsunit'll take NEW love due to src:libxft -> src:xft10:24
Mithrandircrimsun: NEW isn't a problem, though.10:24
crimsuntrue10:25
Mithrandirapart from that, it should be doable once libxrender is built.10:25
seb128so I go cool10:25
crimsunLOCK libxres10:25
seb128ups10:25
seb128cool10:25
Mithrandircrimsun: note you need to wait for a while before uploading that.10:26
crimsunMithrandir: for libx11-dev and/or libxext-dev?10:27
Mithrandirthe latter.10:30
Mithrandirlibx11 is fine, the fix fabbione uploaded is just for upgrades.10:30
crimsunright, noted.10:31
crimsunthis epoch business is madness.10:31
Mithrandirit is, but I think I'll be able to get gravity to take our changes there.10:33
MithrandirSTEAL libxt10:36
Kamionoh good somebody's doing that10:44
crimsunhmm, libxres is going to be messy, since our orig.tar.gz is named libxres_1.0.2+1.0.0.orig.tar.gz whereas Debian's is libxres_1.0.0.orig.tar.gz10:45
Kamioncrimsun: sounds like an upstream version downgrade10:45
KamionLOCK libxcursor10:45
KamionI suspect that libxres .orig == 1.0.0 really10:46
crimsunKamion: yeah, it is 1.0.0 in both cases, but I'm wondering how to work around the versioning in the orig.tar.gz10:46
fabbioneseb128: ping?10:47
seb128fabbione: pong10:47
Mithrandircrimsun: bump the version in the changelog to 1.0.2?10:47
fabbioneseb128: #52034 is absolutely not xterm10:47
Kamion   libxres | 1:1.0.2+1.0.0-0ubuntu3 |          edgy | source10:47
Kamionit's already bumped10:47
fabbioneseb128: X in general does not provide ANY kind of session save facility10:47
Kamioncrimsun: you'll have to continue the current versioning scheme10:47
crimsunok, fun stuff. Thanks.10:48
seb128fabbione: ok, so that's NOTABUG, expected behaviour10:48
Kamionso Debian [1:] 1.0.0-N => 1:1.0.2+1.0.0-N10:48
Kamioner -Nubuntu110:48
Kamionand we can sort it out when Debian bumps to > 1.0.210:48
crimsunexcept Debian's using 2:1.0.010:48
Kamionoh, then you can resolve it10:48
Mithrandirthen it should just be a sync, shouldn't it?10:48
Kamiontake their .orig.tar.gz and use the epoch10:48
Kamionyes, can be a sync if there are no other changes10:49
Mithrandir(unless we have changes we want to keep, that is)10:49
crimsunshipping man pages, but that's not vital at this stage10:49
crimsuna sync sounds best10:49
crimsunok, in that case libxres is ready to be synced from Debian Sid once libxext is available10:51
Mithrandirlibxt uploaded10:55
Mithrandirnobody locked xft?10:58
fabbioneit's all your10:58
Mithrandirhooray!10:59
Mithrandir:-P10:59
Kamionlibxcursor ready to go once the ia64/powerpc/sparc buildds wake up w.r.t. libxfixes10:59
MithrandirLOCK xft10:59
Kamionsomebody remind me how I see the buildd queue?11:00
Kamionah https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+builds11:01
Mithrandirhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+builds?build_state=pending&build_text= ?11:01
Kamionyeah11:01
Mithrandiroh, in building.  I was wondering why it was neither built nor pending.11:02
Kamionyeah, found it eventually11:04
Kamionlibxcursor uploaded11:04
KamionLOCK libxevie11:05
crimsunLOCK libxv11:12
Mithrandirafk for a little bit.11:17
Mithrandirok, seems like xft can be synced.11:40
crimsunlibxv ready to go once libxext is available11:41
Kamionlibxext should start building RSN11:41
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Kamionlibxevie similarly ready to go11:42
MithrandirKamion: if you can do the sync in https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/libxft/+bug/52197, it'd be great for seb, etc.11:42
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fabbioneit's too damn warm here11:43
Kamionok, I'll do a sync pass now11:43
Mithrandirexcellent, thanks.11:44
Kamioncrimsun: if you can say in the sync request when something comes from non-main, it'd be appreciated11:46
Kamionneeds a different sync-source invocation in that case11:46
crimsunKamion: sorry, noted, thanks11:46
Kamion(er, and which component it comes from ...)11:47
MithrandirKamion: will xft end up in main automatically?  (If not, can you make it?)11:47
KamionMithrandir: sort-of-yes and yes11:47
Kamionit'll end up in NEW, the default there is main although *normally* we override to universe11:47
Kamionbut we do apply some intelligence :)11:48
fabbioneKamion: when you can and you have time (!= NOW) could you please NEW openais? it will be soon a redhat-cluster-suite B-D and Depends: so you can spare yourself the trouble to move it to universe and back later11:48
fabbione(up to you for the latter)11:48
Kamionfabbione: ok11:49
fabbioneKamion: thanks a lot11:49
Kamionfabbione: er but for new main source can you please get pitti to look over it?11:49
fabbioneKamion: well yes of course i can..11:49
Kamionnot necessarily because he might want to veto, but because he might find stuff to fix11:50
Kamionanyway this is OT here11:50
fabbioneyup..11:51
crimsunLOCK libxss11:54
KamionMithrandir: erm - do we not need libfreetype6-dev 2.2.1?12:04
Kamionor was the ABI breakage between Dapper and 2.2.1?12:04
Kamion(it's a bit late, I've already newed it, but there)12:04
MithrandirKamion: *sigh*, sorry.  We might need a rebuild, then.12:06
Mithrandiroh joy, dapper has the broken freetype.12:11
Kamionright12:13
Kamionhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=314385 for the record12:13
Kamionwe might need to rebuild world - but fortunately we're doing that anyway :P12:13
Mithrandiryeah. :-/12:15
Kamionyum, and freetype/dapper-security > freetype/edgy12:17
Mithrandiryeah, I whined at pitti about that a few hours ago12:17
crimsunlibxss ready to go pending libxext (which appears to have built on 4/5 arches)12:24
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Mithrandirrodarvus: it would have been useful if you'd left your packages somewhere the rest of us could have gotten at them last night. :-P12:31
rodarvusMithrandir, indeed, sorry12:31
rodarvusI was waiting for build-deps to be uploaded by yesterday end of the day, but ended sleeping before all was ok12:31
Mithrandirlibx11 went in around midnight UTC, iirc.12:32
rodarvusMithrandir, there was at least libxext missing for me to proceed with my packages12:32
Mithrandiranyway, you should have some packages which are uploadable now, like dmx12:32
Mithrandirxext is built now, but not published so hold off anything needing that for a little bit.12:33
rodarvusMithrandir, most (all?) of my packages need libxext12:33
Kamionwe're also dealing with HORRIBLE FREETYPE MADNESS12:33
rodarvusI'll check12:33
rodarvusoh12:33
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KamionMithrandir: it's safe to upload xext-dependent source now12:34
crimsunyay12:34
rodarvusgreat!12:34
MithrandirKamion: oh, since they binaries are accepted?12:34
Kamionthe binaries are in accepted12:34
Kamionhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+queue?queue_state=2&queue_text=xext12:34
Kamionlibxevie uploaded12:35
crimsunlibxss, libxv uploaded12:35
rodarvushow long usually it takes for binaries to be in accepted (after the upload) - 3 hours? (looked to be something like that, when builder/publisher is ok)12:35
Mithrandirbest case is about 2.5 hours, worst case is about 3.5 hours.12:36
Kamionrodarvus: upload source -> next :03 source publish -> publisher finishes about :40-something, buildds start -> sometimes manage to upload by next :03 -> binaries publish -> publisher finishes about :40-something, mirrors trigger12:36
Kamionthe "sometimes manage to upload by" is about when they land in accepted12:36
Kamionuploads get processed into accepted at */5 * * * *12:37
KamionLOCK libxi12:37
rodarvusMithrandir, Kamion, nice, thanks for the explanation12:37
MithrandirLOCK libxinerama12:39
rodarvusyou are moving stuff to DONE only when the binary is moved into accepted, right?12:39
Mithrandirno, when the source is uploaded is what we've done so far.12:39
Kamionlook at launchpad.net/distro/ubuntu/+source/NAME/VERSION to see build states12:40
Kamionif they're all "Successfully built" then you're generally safe to upload source build-depending on them12:40
tsengi find launchpad.net/people/YOURNAME/+packages more useful12:40
tsengas it gives you a list of all your recent uploads and state12:41
Kamiontseng: utterly hopeless here, they're not all our packages12:41
Kamionyou need to know the state of stuff you're build-depending on not just stuff you uploaded12:41
tsengright, sorry12:41
Kamiongood for spotting build failures though12:41
crimsunLOCK libxkbui12:42
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crimsunoh, UNLOCK, that's a sync12:43
Mithrandircrimsun: care to file the sync request, then?12:44
crimsunMithrandir: just filed it :)12:45
crimsunMithrandir: (same for libxres)12:46
Mithrandircrimsun: noted on x-pkgs12:47
crimsunthanks12:47
Mithrandircrimsun: please tell when they're attended to so they can be moved to done.12:47
rodarvuslibdmx uploaded12:47
crimsunMithrandir: will do12:47
crimsunLOCK libxtrap12:47
rodarvuswhoever moved libdmx to done, thanks :)12:49
Mithrandirnp12:49
Mithrandirrodarvus: I stole libxt from you this morning and uploaded it, but I see now that libsm wasn't done, so it'll require a rebuild :-/12:49
rodarvusMithrandir, libsm was uploaded just now12:50
KamionI've found a few packages that have been relibtoolised with Debian's libtool, but the patches seriously don't apply12:50
rodarvusI've done all packages marked as "mine"12:50
rodarvusI'm just uploading them now (after double checking)12:50
Mithrandirrodarvus: ok, libsm moved to done12:51
rodarvuslibxdamage uploaded12:51
rodarvuslibxmu sync requested12:53
Kamionlibtool> doesn't seem to make any difference at least for libxevie though12:54
rodarvus(actually, a new comment on yesterdays request, as agreed with Kamion)12:54
rodarvusbtw, I have libxaw done here, but it depends on libxt (which is uploaded but needs a rebuild) and libxmu (which will be synced from Debian unstable)12:58
crimsunlibxtrap ready to go pending libxt rebuild12:59
Mithrandirlibxinerama uploaded12:59
rodarvusI also have libxcomposite ready to go, but pending on libxdamage build01:00
MithrandirLOCK libxtst01:00
crimsunok, off to work, libtrap at http://sh.nu/~crimsun/xorg-transition/  if I'm dead in action.01:03
crimsunlibxtrap^01:03
Kamionlibxi uploaded01:10
Kamionrodarvus: libxmu also build-deps on libxt ...01:11
rodarvusKamion, right, indeed01:11
rodarvusMithrandir, you'll send libxt to rebuild after libsm is published?01:13
rodarvus(I mean, it can only happens in ~3h, or can it be done before?)01:13
Mithrandirrodarvus: I'll do that, sure.01:14
rodarvusLOCK libxvmc01:25
rodarvusKamion, syncs for packages with same version for orig.tar.gz, but with different md5sum fail, right?01:27
Kamionyes01:28
Kamionthe archive only ever accepts one file with a given name01:28
rodarvus*nods*01:28
Kamionwhich is partly for general sanity, partly because it would be a lot harder on mirrors if they had to check the contents of every file rather than just whether they had it or not, and partly because a different release might still be using the older file01:29
rodarvussure, its a very sane thing to do01:30
Kamionlibxres synced01:35
Mithrandirlibxtst uploaded01:35
MithrandirLOCK libxxf86dga01:36
rodarvuslibxvmc is ready to be uploaded (waiting for libxv to be built)01:42
Mithrandiroh, ffs, Debian has epoched libxxf86dga and we now have mismatching orig.tar.gz again.  Grr.  More fakesyncing.01:42
Kamionwe should follow the epoch though, right?01:44
Mithrandiryeah.01:44
Mithrandir(I can't see a reason not to, at least)01:45
rodarvusI guess most X libraries with same orig.tar.gz have mismatched md5sum, currently01:45
Kamionthere have been a few exceptions, but yeah01:46
Mithrandirlibxxf86dga uploaded.01:46
Kamionok, I'm going to do other stuff for a while - feel free to ping me for urgent archive admin though01:46
rodarvusin a little while I guess we'll be mostly stuck, anyway01:47
Kamion?01:48
rodarvuswell, not really01:48
rodarvuswe'll be able to merge/sync apps,but only locally01:48
rodarvusat least until libraries are all published and built01:48
Mithrandirhmm, why isn't libsm listed as successfully built, building, pending or failed?01:53
Kamionit's pending now01:55
Kamionyou might have caught the build sequencer (or queue builder?) mid-operation or something01:55
rodarvusI'll be right back01:57
MithrandirKamion: can you rescore builds?02:03
Mithrandirif so, can you bump libsm?02:04
Mithrandirlibsm i386 build started now.02:21
Kamionunfortunately not02:26
KamionKeybuk can02:26
Mithrandirhe's not around, though.02:28
Kamionvoip him?02:28
Kamionhe usually says to phone him if he's not on IRC?02:29
Kamions/\?//02:29
Kamionoh, need to get freetype rescored as well - I'll phone him02:30
Kamiongosh, voip works02:31
Kamionhe'll be here in a moment02:31
Kamionas predicted he was just offline to get some work done02:32
ogradid you use the new canonical voip ?02:32
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KamionI have two accounts, no idea which ekiga used - I called Scott's personal one though02:32
Kamionhiya02:32
MithrandirKeybuk: care to rescore libsm, please?02:32
Kamioncan we get libsm (two arches) and freetype rescored up?02:32
KeybukKamion: neither -- it would have just contacted my server direct02:32
Kamionah02:33
Kamionneither's caught by the magic *x* hack02:33
Kamionwe're having, er, fun with freetype ;)02:33
Keybukwhy fun? :p02:33
KamionABI breakage that got into dapper02:33
Keybukfreetype rescored (i386 is already "buildin")02:33
Keybukin fact, looks like i386 is about to get picked up02:34
KamionI think at present we're hoping that if we sing LALALA really loudly (and rebuild the world) the problem will go away02:34
Kamioncool, thanks02:34
Keybuksounds like fun02:34
Kamiongave me an excuse to try out voip in anger, anyway02:34
MithrandirKamion: in Debian it seemed like it only affected gnustep though.02:34
Mithrandirwhich limits the damage quite a bit02:34
Keybukwhat was the change?02:35
KamionI think we've already synced gnustep, but we can see how it goes ...02:35
Keybukwhich is the second libsm arch?02:35
KamionKeybuk: one that had already started building by the time you looked02:35
Keybukah02:35
Keybukhas finished now already02:35
KamionKeybuk: freetype upstream had added a load of new symbols and dropped others in 2.1.10 - then in 2.2 they said "ok, no more use of freetype internal symbols for YOU" and ditched a load of stuff from the API/ABI02:36
Kamionbut some apps and libraries were using the internal symbols, and they didn't bump soname02:36
Keybukheh02:36
Keybuknice of them02:36
Mithrandirif glibc can get away with it, so should freetype be able to. :-P02:36
Kamionvorlon tried to convince them to bump soname but they basically went "nah, too hard due to all the libraries using freetype"02:36
Keybuka drive-by dreppering of the library?02:36
Kamionbasically, via Owen Taylor02:37
Keybukheh02:38
Keybukisn't he stuck on mugshot now?02:38
MithrandirLOCK libxxf86misc02:38
Kamionit was a while back, this has been going on for months02:38
Kamionthe annoying thing is that it was fixed in Debian in March, and we could have grabbed it for dapper if we'd noticed02:39
Keybukyeah, it's tricky to notice stuff in Debian like that without someone reaading their -changes every day02:40
Mithrandirlibxxf86misc uploaded02:45
KeybukKamion: (on why the archive only accepts one orig.tar.gz ...02:47
Keybukand the bitch is, that you can't just epoch it either <g>)02:47
Mithrandirnew libxt uploaded too02:47
MithrandirLOCK libxxf86vm02:48
KamionKeybuk: right :-/02:51
Kamionyay for tar02:51
MithrandirKeybuk: does patches.ubuntu.com carry patches for XbuildY versions too or just XubuntuY?02:54
Mithrandirlibxxf86vm uploaded02:57
KeybukMithrandir: both02:57
Keybukanything where ubuntu > debian02:57
MithrandirKeybuk: excellent.02:57
KeybukI don't think there are any patches for XbuildY though02:57
Mithrandirthere will be soon.02:58
Keybukhttp://patches.ubuntu.com/x/xprobe/02:58
Keybukah, there is02:58
Keybukseveral, in fact02:58
fabbionehey Keybuk03:19
Keybukhey03:20
fabbioneKeybuk: sometimes i will need to suck your asterisk foo out of your head for a crash course03:22
fabbioneKeybuk: when do you think would that be possible for you?03:22
fabbioneactually.. -ECHAN03:22
rodarvuslibxvmc uploaded04:37
rodarvusKamion, do you know the status of the sync for libxmu? it was waiting on libxt, which is already built by now04:40
Kamionstill waiting on the ia64 rebuild of libxt04:42
Kamionhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/libxt/1:1.0.0-5build204:42
rodarvusoh, I didn't saw ia64 was still needing build, sorry04:44
Kamionfloe's down, which doesn't help04:46
Kamionhooker on its own kinda struggles to keep up04:46
Kamionlibxt should build next05:20
Kamionrodarvus: ok, you can upload libxt-dependent source now05:32
rodarvusKamion, I will, thanks!05:48
Kamionrodarvus: see #52109 - after all that, libxmu's unsyncable05:52
Kamionneeds to be uploaded by hand as 2:...build1 or so05:52
rodarvusdamn. you right, of course.05:54
rodarvusI'll upload it manually in a minute05:54
rodarvuslibxmu uploaded05:58
rodarvus(I had the package ready here, even with the bumped Epoch, just had to remove the extra Dependencies on libx11-dev)05:59
Kamionlibxkbui synced06:09
Kamionlooks like you can upload libxcomposite now06:11
Kamion(don't understand why that needed libxt first though)06:11
Kamionlibxfont can be done safely by somebody now06:11
rodarvusKamion, it didn't depend o libxt, but libxdamage06:16
rodarvusI'll adjust status on x-pkgs06:17
Kamionok - libxdamage is done now06:17
rodarvusindeed, thanks!06:18
rodarvuslibxcomposite uploaded06:27
rodarvusKamion, my libxmu uploaded of earlier today was rejected, but it doesn't says the reason for the rejection06:29
rodarvusare you able to look at librarian and check what went wrong?06:29
rodarvuslibxmu_1.0.1-3build106:30
Kamioninterestingly the log doesn't say06:32
KamionI've asked ##soyuz1.0 to help06:33
Kamionyou might want to hop on there06:33
rodarvussure06:34
rodarvuslibxmu re-uploaded06:41
rodarvusI see no sign of crimsun - do you think we should upload libxtrap for him?06:42
Kamionpossibly, but I'm off ASAP :)06:43
rodarvusI will :)06:44
rodarvusanyone has lock on libxfont ?06:44
rodarvusMithrandir, ping06:45
rodarvusMithrandir, is libxpm locked on any other package?06:45
rodarvuslibxmu accepted this time06:47
rodarvuslibxtrap is uploaded06:53
rodarvusLOCK libxfont06:58
rodarvuslibxfont was uploaded07:09
rodarvusMithrandir, ping07:15
crimsunrodarvus: thanks, been in meeting hell all day08:23
rodarvusI know the feeling :)08:25
rodarvuslixtrap & libxmu are built in all platforms but sparc08:26
Mithrandirrodarvus: it's locked on it being weekend here, but otherwise, no.  Feel free to steal the lock.08:36
rodarvusMithrandir, I will, thanks!08:36
rodarvusdoing it now08:36
rodarvushopefully in a few hours, all libs will be built/published08:36
fabbionerodarvus: are they building or did they fail?08:43
rodarvusall building08:43
fabbionesorry i meant the sparc bits08:43
rodarvusfabbione, do you know where I can find the build queue for each machine or arch?08:43
rodarvusfabbione, no, still waiting08:43
fabbionerodarvus: eh no.. i wish i did08:44
fabbionebut ask the soyuz guys08:44
rodarvus:)08:44
fabbionei am sure they can tell you08:44
rodarvusI'll do, thanks!08:44
rodarvuslibxaw uploaded09:15
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crimsunohshi10:17
crimsunargh, ECHANNEL10:17
rodarvus:)10:19
rodarvuslibxpm is uploaded10:19
rodarvusall LIBS are done, hooray!10:20
crimsun\o/10:20
rodarvusI'll start with apps that have sane build-deps now10:20
rodarvusmerging apps should be *much* quicker now :)10:21

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