[12:01] <WiNn3t0U> yes, it tells me about that problem
[12:01] <K^Holtz> Warbo: i'm having a lot of trouble with this, i'm looking at the Restrictedformats wiki.. is that my best source?
[12:01] <WiNn3t0U> but then i can only use the terminal that is kind of dos-based...
[12:01] <Warbo> K^Holtz: Usually yes. If not look on Google because it may be a general problem with VLC
[12:01] <erUSUL> WiNn3t0U: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in the terminal and see if you can repair it
[12:02] <Warbo> WiNn3t0U: OK, did you notice what the error was exactly? (usually at the bottom). Was it "module not found"?
[12:02] <WiNn3t0U> something with xorg...
[12:02] <Ropechoborra> ubotu, tell Ropechoborra about webcam
[12:02] <Ropechoborra> ubotu, tell Ropechoborra about mp3
[12:02] <Warbo> WiNn3t0U: Yes, that is the graphics server. Try that dpkg-reconfigure command
[12:02] <WiNn3t0U> and i use ubuntu
[12:02] <jonah1980> wildman, no the files are still there!!
[12:02] <WiNn3t0U> the only problem is that i'm a newbie, and i don't know how to do anything..
[12:03] <jonah1980> gatekeeper, yeah loads of files within the folder
[12:03] <Ropechoborra> ubotu tell Ropechoborra about mp3
[12:03] <jonah1980> gatekeeper, can't get rid of it and it's a big 5gb folder!
[12:03] <giant> who knows a decent editor like eclipse for c++??
[12:03] <Ropechoborra> he wont tell me :( hes mean! :P
[12:03] <erUSUL> jonah1980: where is the folder you are trying to delete?
[12:03] <erUSUL> giant: emacs ;)
[12:03] <hunter_> how can i make fluxbox start instead of gnome?
[12:03] <Warbo> WiNn3t0U: The most important thing to notice is that "when something is written like this" it usually means that you type that into a console or terminal (your "DOS-like" screen)
[12:03] <giant> yeah, i use emacs, but it's difficult debugging in it
[12:03] <WiNn3t0U> ok..
[12:03] <WiNn3t0U> so..
[12:04] <Ropechoborra> erUSUL, finaly i format x)
[12:04] <Warbo> WiNn3t0U: Try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:04] <erUSUL> Ropechoborra: congrats
[12:04] <WiNn3t0U> now i should update, and if i get the same problem, i should use that command ??
[12:04] <SimzI> How do I install mouse cursors?!?!?!?!?
[12:04] <WiNn3t0U> or i shall use it right now ?
[12:04] <eduardo_> yes
[12:04] <gatekeeper> jonah1980: that is why it won't delete Warbo gave you a way to force it but use with care, I would try to recursively remove the files, not sure what the command is
[12:04] <jonah1980> erUSUL, /media/FREECOM 160/.Trash-jonah
[12:04] <Warbo> WiNn3t0U: Use it now, since that changes the configuration (which is kept during an update anyway)
[12:04] <WiNn3t0U> ok
[12:05] <sir-p> i just reconfigured xserver from ati to fglrx and nox xserver won't start anymore! what can i do?
[12:05] <giant> isn't there a decent SDK for C++
[12:05] <WiNn3t0U> Warbo
[12:05] <Warbo> WiNn3t0U: It will ask you loads of questions. Choose the defaults or the "simple" options if you can
[12:05] <WiNn3t0U> can i go on private with you so you can guide me please ??
[12:05] <eduardo_> have you got the driver of Sound Blaster AWE64 FOR ubuntu
[12:05] <jonah1980> it's really annoying taking up loads of space on my hardrive and showing up in my wastebasket - and there's loads of files in there none of which i can delete
[12:05] <eduardo_> ??
[12:06] <wildman> bye *
[12:06] <giant> isn't there a decent SDK for C++
[12:06] <Warbo> WiNn3t0U: If you are registered on freenode (I think you need to be for PMs)
[12:06] <erUSUL> jonah1980: that is a system folder that nautilus creates in every removable fs. you should be able to rm it though
[12:06] <WiNn3t0U> nope..
[12:06] <wildman> giant: Eclipse CDT
[12:06] <WiNn3t0U> than we do on java...
[12:06] <giant> thx wildman
[12:06] <hunter_> someone! how do i change what startx runs!!!!
[12:06] <greddy> okay i'm trying to modifiy xorg as in this webpage is telling me to
[12:06] <erUSUL> jonah1980: chances are that the folder gets created everytime you visit the folder with nautilus
[12:06] <wildman> yw giant
[12:06] <jonah1980> erUSUL, yeah but is there anyway to get rid of it, it won't let me empty the trash!
[12:06] <sir-p> i just reconfigured xserver from ati to fglrx and now xserver won't start anymore! what can i do??
[12:06] <Warbo> jonah1980: If you want to delete them anyway then "sudo chmod 777 foldername -R && sudo chown <yourusername> foldername -R"
[12:07] <greddy> and it mentions the lines Load drv and Load glx and make sure they aren't commented
[12:07] <greddy> but i dont see those lines at all
[12:07] <greddy> and it doesn't tell me where to put them
[12:07] <chip42> hunter_: edit ~/.xinitrc .. should contain the command for the window manager you want to load
[12:07] <greddy> this is the site
[12:07] <greddy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RadeonDriverHowto
[12:07] <SimzI> How do I install mouse cursors?!?!?!?!?
[12:07] <chip42> hunter_: ie for kde it would be startkde, or for windowmaker, wmaker, etc
[12:07] <Warbo> greddy: That will be in the "modules" section (and it is "dri" not "drv")
[12:07] <greddy> thanks
[12:07] <hunter_> chip42: What would it be for fluxbox flux?
[12:08] <Warbo> SimzI: install the gcursor package
[12:08] <hacha> hi there!
[12:08] <greddy> so would the line :
[12:08] <greddy> 	Load	"glx"
[12:08] <greddy> is that uncommented?
[12:09] <giant> wildman: how about the integration of qt in eclipse??
[12:09] <ubuntuology> hunter_, exec startfluxbox
[12:09] <Warbo> greddy: For fglrx and nvidia yes
[12:09] <jonah1980> jonah@jonah-desktop:~$ sudo chmod 777 /media/FREECOM 160/.Trash-jonah -R && sudo chown jonah /media/FREECOM 160/.Trash-jonah -R
[12:09] <jonah1980> chmod: cannot access `/media/FREECOM': No such file or directory
[12:09] <jonah1980> chmod: cannot access `160/.Trash-jonah': No such file or directory
[12:09] <hunter_> chip42:  nano ~/.xinitrc that? cause it isn't a file....
[12:09] <chip42> hunter_: should just be fluxbox
[12:09] <chip42> hunter_: if it doesn't exist you have to create it
[12:09] <hunter_> oh
[12:09] <linopil> hi
[12:09] <hunter_> so put exec startfluxbox in it?
[12:10] <giant> does somebody know something about qt integration in eclipse??
[12:10] <chip42> hunter_: just ... fluxbox
[12:10] <cougem> hey guys what's this sidebar on the right? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c1/Screenshot-6.png
[12:10] <linopil> giant anybody anything --- good english
[12:10] <chip42> hunter_: only that one word in that file should launch fluxbox when you type startx
[12:10] <ubuntuology> startfluxbox is the script used for fluxbox, its recommended by their wiki.
[12:10] <chip42> do what is recommended cause i dunno anything about it
[12:11] <linopil> !nfs
[12:11] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[12:11] <brotakul> i just reconfigured xserver from ati to fglrx and now xserver won't start anymore! what can i do??
[12:11] <giant> does anybody know anything about qt integration in eclipse?? :-)
[12:11] <SimzI> Warbo, I installed Gcursor
[12:11] <hunter_> how can i close gnome, (not ctrl-alt-backspace) but so it doens't come back up?
[12:11] <SimzI> what's next?
[12:11] <erUSUL> cougem: it seems gdesklets
[12:11] <linopil> better giant
[12:11] <giant> thx linopil
[12:12] <ubuntuology> hunter_, just make sure exec fluxbox is in your .xinitrc
[12:12] <Warbo> SimzI: Look in System>Preferences
[12:12] <hunter_> i know, but i don't want gnome to start if i log out
[12:12] <ubuntuology> is gdm running?
[12:12] <hunter_> yes, i want it to die
[12:13] <brotakul> i just reconfigured xserver from ati to fglrx and now xserver won't start anymore! what can i do??
[12:13] <ubuntuology> try /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:13] <Warbo> brotakul: Does "sudo modprobe fglrx" do anything?
[12:14] <jonah1980> hi can anyone please help me delete a folder and it's contents that just won't go away?
[12:14] <brotakul> i'll try
[12:14] <ompaul> hunter_, ctrl - alt - f1 and log in run sudo  /etc/init.d/gdm stop -- then ctrl alt backspace to kill X and change stop for start to get it going again
[12:14] <cycom> anyone ever futs about with consumer IR?  My laptop has a remote, which seems to behave like a keyboard by sending keystrokes to my text editors and things, but I have no idea how it 'talks' to my computer
[12:14] <ompaul> jonah1980, what folder is this
[12:14] <SimzI> Warbo, i tryed to install the .theme but it won't let me
[12:14] <greddy> how do i change the name of a partition i have mounted?
[12:14] <POVaddct> jonah1980: what is the absolute path of the directory? (you call it folder)
[12:15] <Warbo> SimzI: Usually they end in .tar.gz
[12:15] <selinium> jonah  sudo rm -R /path/to/folder
[12:15] <trace4466> SimzI: you can click on themes, maybe from system>ptrefereneces, then drag the file to the window and select install
[12:15] <selinium> jonah1980:   sudo rm -R /path/to/folder
[12:15] <Warbo> trace4466: This is a cursor
[12:15] <jonah1980> ompaul - it's a .Trash folder on my removable hardrive, but it's 5gb and when i plug drive in the wastebin icon fills but won't let me empty the wastebin and i can't delete contents of folder either
[12:15] <rdgzt> So, following the instructions on the wiki lead me nowhere in trying to get sound in Flash/Firefox on dapper, ideas?
[12:15] <selinium> jonah1980: be careful!
[12:15] <Warbo> SimzI: Where did you get this file from?
[12:15] <dash\> ok, ubuntu's character map is awesome
[12:16] <hcjc92> woohoo for fluxbox
[12:16] <SimzI> gnomelook.org
[12:16] <jonah1980> POVaddct, /media/FREECOM 160/.Trash-jonah
[12:16] <selinium> hi ompaul :)
[12:16] <Warbo> jonah1980: Put a backslash in front of the space :)
[12:16] <SimzI> gnome-look.org *
[12:16] <greddy> is x11vnc better than freenx?
[12:16] <ompaul> jonah1980, sudo rm -rf  /media/FREECOM 160/.Trash-jonah
[12:16] <selinium> jonah1980: sudo rm -R /media/FREECOM 160/.Trash-jonah
[12:16] <hcjc92> obviously xchat doens't want my running a root, (i doint' either) why doesn't flux waht to let me log out....
[12:16] <ompaul> selinium, evening fight you for the f :-)
[12:16] <selinium> ompaul: big R!
[12:16] <POVaddct> jonah1980: rm -rf "/media/FREECOM 160/.Trash-jonah"   (the " are important)
[12:17] <patrickj> how do I change the gnome menu logo?
[12:17] <POVaddct> selinium: no, you didn't quote the directory name
[12:17] <ompaul> POVaddct, nice one
[12:17] <jonah1980> jonah@jonah-desktop:~$ sudo rm -R "/media/FREECOM 160/.Trash-jonah"
[12:17] <jonah1980> rm: cannot lstat `/media/FREECOM 160/.Trash-jonah/Macromedia/Dreamweaver 8/Configuration/Content/Tutorial/Assets': Input/output error
[12:17] <Warbo> patrickj: It is /usr/share/icons/hicolor/<something>/apps/distributor-logo.png
[12:17] <tarragon> I am trying to do a fresh install. previous hoary running fine. Did full backup. CD loads. while trying to install I cannot manually create partitions and automatic dies at five per cent. Maxtor 163G drive. Aything I should be trying?
[12:17] <ompaul> jonah1980, sudo rm -rf  /media/FREECOM\ 160/.Trash-jonah       << note the \
[12:18] <patrickj> Warbo: I changed that file and restarted the panel, still the same :\
[12:18] <selinium> ompaul: you still need a big R!
[12:18] <POVaddct> jonah1980: Input/output error? seems like the freecom medium (or the filesystem on it) is damaged
[12:18] <selinium> ompaul: you still need a capital! R!
[12:18] <Warbo> selinium: I am unfamiliar with -R, but -r works fine (usually)
[12:18] <selinium> POVaddct: why the need for " marks? THey are not required
[12:18] <POVaddct> selinium: no. recursive deleting with rm is rm -rf
[12:19] <selinium> POVaddct: I always use -R ? :)
[12:19] <Warbo> selinium: "this is used including spaces" or\ an\ alternative\ is\ to\ escape\ the\ spaces\ like\ this
[12:19] <POVaddct> selinium: they are. otherwise rm will see more the one parameter
[12:19] <ompaul> selinium, if anything survives that I would be surprised -r is -R >>  -r, -R, --recursive << man page
[12:19] <jonah1980> jonah@jonah-desktop:~$ sudo rm -rf  /media/FREECOM\ 160/.Trash-jonah
[12:19] <jonah1980> rm: cannot lstat `/media/FREECOM 160/.Trash-jonah/Macromedia/Dreamweaver 8/Configuration/Content/Tutorial/Assets': Input/output error
[12:19] <POVaddct> selinium: okay, -r and -R are the same
[12:19] <SigmaX> Yo; I updated to Dapper from Breezy a while back, and now apt-get is stuck on kcontrol: unable to make backup link of `./usr/lib/kde3/kcm_style.la' before installing new version: Operation not permitted
[12:19] <babis85> hey guys, do you know how could i print dublex pages?
[12:20] <patrickj> lol
[12:20] <J-_> how do i get bit torrent working good? some ports are blocked, i assume anyway...
[12:20] <ompaul> jonah1980, is that the only data on that drive?
[12:20] <Warbo> SimzI: Was the file inside a tar archive? If so try using that in the cursor dialog
[12:21] <jonah1980> ompaul, there's loads of stuff on the drive also that i need
[12:21] <POVaddct> jonah1980: i guess the filesystem on the freecom drive is f*cked up
[12:21] <ompaul> jonah1980, okay it looks like you have a problem with the filesystem as POVaddct alluded to
[12:21] <POVaddct> jonah1980: which filesystem type is it?
[12:21] <jonah1980> ompaul, i could pull everything else off the drive and then move it back on after a format but how easy would it be to format a removabe hdd
[12:21] <jonah1980> POVaddct, it's FAT32 so i can use it in windows also
[12:22] <Phoul> anyone here use vmware player?
[12:22] <ompaul> jonah1980, to format it a few seconds
[12:22] <Warbo> jonah1980: Have you changed directory to the drive and just done "sudo rm -rf .Trash-jonah"?
[12:22] <patrickj> Warbo: do I need to restart gnome?
[12:22] <K^Holtz> i ran the command  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh in order to allow for encrypted dvd playback.. when i ran the command i got this output (just the last line shown): dpkg: status database area is locked by another process .... Does this mean that it worked or failed?
[12:22] <POVaddct> jonah1980: how big is the fat32 filesystem? fat32 under linux has some limitations.
[12:23] <Warbo> patrickj: It may be cached somewhere, so if killing the panel didn't help you may just have to wait until the panel updates itself
[12:23] <kbrooks> Warbo: it isnt
[12:23] <jonah1980> Warbo, yeah tried that too, same input out error
[12:24] <ompaul> patrickj, do you want to reset gnome desktop?
[12:24] <Warbo> K^Holtz: You need to close any Synaptic, aptitude or whatever applications before running it again (only one program can change packages at a time, to stop conflicts)
[12:24] <patrickj> Warbo: alright...
[12:24] <jonah1980> POVaddct, it's 160gb
[12:24] <kbrooks> heh'
[12:24] <patrickj> ompaul: im trying to change the gnome menu logo
[12:24] <POVaddct> jonah1980: that's too big. linux can handle fat32 up to 128gb, if i remember correctly.
[12:24] <hcjc92> i just put fluxbox on ubuntu, started it, and it didn't ask for me to login, and i asked at #fluxbox and they said to come ask here....
[12:25] <lophyte> !easyubuntu
[12:25] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:25] <J-_> how do i get bit torrent to work good?
[12:25] <jonah1980> POVaddct, i think that's right, unless it's ntfs? i can't remember now
[12:25] <Warbo> hcjc92: How did you start Fluxbox?
[12:25] <hcjc92> startx
[12:25] <J-_> need some guidance.
[12:25] <jonah1980> POVaddct, what can i do then?
[12:25] <bernouli> i want to install kernel source, i search in apt, i shows source for kernel 2.4.27, but i am using 2.4.25 kernel, what should i do?
[12:25] <POVaddct> jonah1980: ntfs would be worse, because linux can't write ntfs
[12:25] <K^Holtz> Warbo: ok, now i have followed every instruction on the RestrictedFormats wiki, (even installed the gstreamer stuff) and i installed DMA.. should everything run now?
[12:25] <noah> i can't get either my stop or play/pause media key to stop/pause rhythmbox from playing, although all the other media keys work properly, and everything appears to be configured correctly in the keyboard shortcuts dialog... can anyone suggest anything?
[12:25] <ompaul> jonah1980, you mentioned windows
[12:25] <kbrooks> !automatix
[12:25] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[12:25] <Hoxzer> how do I kill buble warning?
[12:25] <kbrooks> ^ is good too
[12:26] <jonah1980> POVaddct, must be FAT then
[12:26] <kimo> !kernel
[12:26] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:26] <Warbo> hcjc92: Try starting X with "X -ac :0" then as your normal user do "export DISPLAY=localhost:0 && fluxbox"
[12:26] <ompaul> kbrooks, read the source recently?
[12:26] <POVaddct> jonah1980: partition the disk in two or more smaller partitions ( < 128gb )
[12:26] <jonah1980> POVaddct, it's been working pretty good (cept this folder) though, are you sure it's too big?
[12:26] <kbrooks> ompaul: dont argue with me
[12:26] <jonah1980> ompaul, yeah i need to take stuff to work on it now and then so it needs to work with windozey also
[12:26] <bernouli> kimo, i dont want to rebuild my kernel, i only want the right source for my kernel
[12:27] <kbrooks> ompaul: the factoid clearly says " use at your own risk "
[12:27] <POVaddct> jonah1980: not the folder is too big. the folder is just located in an area of the filesystem above 128gb
[12:27] <POVaddct> jonah1980: so linux can't access it
[12:27] <kimo> bernouli: sorry, I was searching for myself :) Havent read ur question
[12:27] <ompaul> kbrooks, you risk someones machine - possible wrong repos left in place
[12:27] <jonah1980> POVaddct, bummer
[12:27] <bernouli> kimo, i want to install kernel source, i search in apt, i shows source for kernel 2.4.27, but i am using 2.4.25 kernel, what should i do?
[12:27] <POVaddct> jonah1980: as i said, the 128gb limit is from memory. try to google if this is really the limit.
[12:28] <Warbo> jonah1980: If you split it in 2 using partitions, then make both FAT then you can access them read/write in win and lin
[12:28] <patrickj> yeh for some reason the gnome menu icon wont change :\
[12:28] <kbrooks> ompaul: dont argue with me please
[12:28] <ompaul> kbrooks, that is only the tip of the iceberg
[12:28] <Warbo> bernouli: linux-source not kernel-source
[12:28] <kimo> bernouli: search for how to install a specific version with apt (not latest)
[12:28] <bernouli> Warbo, whatever, apt doesnt show for the right version i am using
[12:28] <jonah1980> can't seem to find the max size in google
[12:29] <bernouli> kimo, how do i do that?
[12:29] <ompaul> kbrooks, it needs a total rebuild - it is not something I would suggest to anyone ever - you really should read it
[12:29] <POVaddct> jonah1980: then you must google harder :)
[12:29] <ompaul> kbrooks, I shudder when I read it
[12:29] <kbrooks> ompaul: you can ban me if you want, but the factoid clearly says "use at your own risk". alsom people on the ubuntu forums are recommending automatix. target them first, NOT me
[12:29] <Warbo> bernouli: Oh wait, you are USING a 2.4 kernel. Oh, do you know if it was supported after a release? (I was using a 2.6.15-18 kernel which disappeared from the Dapper repos after it was released)
[12:29] <kimo> bernouli: I dont know. I know its possible. Ask or google
[12:29] <ompaul> you suggested it in here
[12:30] <patrickj> hmm
[12:30] <hinoka> hello? can someone help? i can't find the grub configuration
[12:30] <bernouli> Warbo, i dont know, i just install fresh dapper, and it gives me 2.4.25
[12:30] <ompaul> kbrooks, better to suggest the documententaion
[12:30] <Warbo> bernouli: No it doesn't, it is 2.6.15-25 or -23
[12:30] <ompaul> kbrooks, with better spelling
[12:30] <rdgzt> Ideas about getting sound in Flash in Firefox on Dapper?
[12:30] <aLPHa_LeaK> hinoka: it is in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:30] <anosa> how to restore desktop icons (computer, home) to original size???
[12:30] <hinoka> is there documentation?
[12:30] <Warbo> rdgzt: Close anything using sound, then restart FF
[12:30] <J-_> how do i uninstall .debs that were in the repos that i installed?
[12:31] <jrib> !flash > rdgzt
[12:31] <bernouli> Warbo, wait, i meant 2.6.15-25
[12:31] <rdgzt> I've tried the stuff on the wiki, doesn't seem to make any difference.
[12:31] <jrib> rdgzt: you set it up to use aoss?
[12:31] <Warbo> bernouli: Then look for 2.6.15 (the minor versions are meaningless if you are building your own source)
[12:32] <rdgzt> jrib: I've tried aoss, esd, none, and auto.
[12:32] <jrib> J-_: aptitude remove package
[12:32] <rdgzt> No joy still.
[12:32] <J-_> thanks
[12:32] <WebWiz> has anybody tried Ubuntu on the T2000?
[12:32] <jrib> rdgzt: are you using the firefox in dapper or your own in /opt?
[12:32] <rdgzt> jrib: The one that came with the distro.
[12:32] <Warbo> WebWiz: Is that the liquid metal one?
[12:32] <WebWiz> i can not seem to burn the Sparc ISO in a way that is readable by the T2000
[12:32] <kimo> I'm collecting nice web guis for Linux admins (zimbra 4 email, ipcop 4 security, ava-sbs PDC, ..) any other recommendations ?
[12:32] <WebWiz> Warbo: the new Niagra processors
[12:32] <jrib> rdgzt: ok, what if you close all instances of firefox and run firefox from a terminal like this: aoss firefox
[12:33] <jonah1980> POVaddct, there's a bit about windows 98 not being good with over 128gb, but can't find stuff on linux
[12:33] <Warbo> WebWiz: Sorry, Terminator 2 joke
[12:33] <rdgzt> jrib: Let me see...
[12:33] <ompaul> kimo, it is not a
[12:33] <patrickj> this is pissing me off XD
[12:33] <WebWiz> oh lol sorry
[12:33] <WebWiz> went right over my head
[12:33] <POVaddct> jonah1980: but i think it's the same limit
[12:33] <ompaul> kimo, this is not a chat channel please hop over to #ubuntu-offtopic with that
[12:33] <ompaul> patrickj, please mind your language
[12:33] <kimo> ompaul: sorry
[12:33] <rdgzt> jrib: That gives me sound.
[12:34] <patrickj> ompaul: sorry, but its annoying, I changed the logo, and restarted gnome, the gnome menu logo still wont change..
[12:34] <jonah1980> POVaddct, ok i'll have to pull it all off the drive, do two paritions like Warbo said and then put it all back - what should i use to format the drive?
[12:34] <WebWiz> is there a special way i need to burn an ISO for Sparc servers to read it?
[12:34] <ompaul> WebWiz, burn it as an iso not a file
[12:34] <jrib> rdgzt: well you can stick to using that, but the aoss instructions in the wiki should be working as well.  You can give it one more try if you want and I can help you troubleshoot
[12:34] <rdgzt> jrib: How do I make that wondrous effect permanent?
[12:35] <POVaddct> jonah1980: cfdisk to partition it, mkdosfs -F32 /dev/... to make filesystems
[12:35] <Warbo> jonah1980: Either Windows or Linux, but probably Linux since that handles partitions in a more logical way (sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/nameofthepartition)
[12:35] <mish4> anyone heard of a problem in xgl where the borders go away, and you cant minimize or maxamize the windows. or drag them
[12:35] <Warbo> mish4: Sounds like Compiz has closed
[12:35] <WebWiz> ompaul: done that many times,  thats how i am running ubuntu now on my x86..started as an iso ;)   BUT.. i burned the "image" of the Sparc cd the same way i did the X86 pc, and the sparc server won't read it
[12:35] <rdgzt> jrib: Is that supposed to be the same as setting dsp to aoss in firefoxrc?
[12:35] <kimo> WebWiz: dont know, ask in #opensolaris, or I guess, burn it from solaris!
[12:35] <mish4> any ideas what i should do?
[12:35] <jrib> rdgzt: if you believe that the wiki instructions aren't working in your case, you can just edit all of the launchers to start that command instead of just 'firefox'
[12:35] <ompaul> !sparc
[12:35] <ubotu> Have a look here for Docs http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/install/sparc/ KnownIssues and TODO are on the wiki.
[12:35] <jrib> rdgzt: yes, afaik it should be the same as setting dsp to aoss in firefoxrc
[12:35] <kimo> mish4: ALT + drag window
[12:35] <Warbo> mish4: Try running in a terminal (if you can) "compiz --replace"
[12:36] <ompaul> WebWiz, read that by ubotu
[12:36] <mish4> alt + drag doesnt work
[12:36] <greddy> anyone have experience using freenx?
[12:36] <ompaul> !xgl
[12:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:36] <rdgzt> Well, setting it in firefoxrc doesn't do anything, is there a chance it's not being read, or it's reading another config file somewhere?
[12:36] <anosa> i've change my desktop icons manually, how to restore to original icons automatically when i change icons theme??
[12:36] <ompaul> greddy, it just works
[12:36] <jrib> greddy: yes
[12:36] <kimo> mish4: make sure u have the 2 Xgl apt sources
[12:36] <greddy> is it better than vnc?
[12:37] <ompaul> anosa, it is part of your theme
[12:37] <ani_max> anyone know how to do a disk-check in ubuntu to fix errors?
[12:37] <mish4> compiz --replace didnt work either
[12:37] <jrib> greddy: I prefer it, seems to work faster than my vnc setup
[12:37] <ompaul> greddy, I think so
[12:37] <FlimFlamMan> christ on a cracker - 792 users.
[12:37] <ompaul> !langauge
[12:37] <greddy> okay i'm going to give this tutorial on the forums a go
[12:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about langauge
[12:37] <Warbo> anosa: Custom icons are put somewhere in ~/.nautilus or ~/.gnome2 (I have copied user accounts and found the icos moved as well)
[12:37] <ompaul> !language
[12:37] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:37] <POVaddct> good night
[12:37] <anosa> when i change my icons theme, the desktop icons won't change automatically
[12:37] <_absolution_> is 'intel celeron M' x86 architecture?
[12:37] <greddy> anyone have any links to tutorials to get it up running?
[12:37] <greddy> freenx that is
[12:38] <rdgzt> _absolution_: Yes.
[12:38] <J-_> wtf, uninstalled azureus, removed some crap, and it's still on my system...
[12:38] <FlimFlamMan> gosh gee wilakers  - 792 users.
[12:38] <jrib> !freenx > greddy
[12:38] <Warbo> FlimFlamMan: You have been warned yet you still come out with such obscenities? :)
[12:38] <FlimFlamMan> darn you to heck!
[12:38] <rdgzt> jrib: Interestingly, with aoss firefox, I get sound, but it seems Firefox hangs when I move away from a flash page.
[12:38] <jonah1980> POVaddct, so is there anything i can just use in ubuntu that's easy
[12:39] <Warbo> nooooooooo
[12:39] <greddy> thanks
[12:39] <jrib> rdgzt: yes, that happens sometimes...  I've been told it can't really be debugged since flash is closed source
[12:39] <FlimFlamMan> despite oppressing my freedom of speech, i want to say that ubuntu dapper is the best operating system i've ever used.
[12:39] <rdgzt> Wonderful.
[12:40] <jrib> rdgzt: we can only hope that the next flash release will resolve it, whenever that may be
[12:40] <hcjc92> Warbo, well, startx will start flux the way i want it to, now what i want is that when i start up, the gdm login comes up and blah blah blah, i just want flux to come up (or better yet, nothing to come up, and get a terminal login prompt)
[12:40] <neuron_> hey
[12:40] <neuron_> is there any way of recording the desktop to a avi file?
[12:40] <dAndy> anyone know how to disable gnome-cups-icon?  it hammers my print server when 30 lab boxes are all polling
[12:40] <cougem> does anyone know how u add new desklets to gdesklet?
[12:40] <jrib> neuron_: istanbul lets you record to .ogg
[12:40] <J-_> i uninstall azureus and it's still here, can anyone help me?
[12:41] <neuron_> i need something that records to avi or mpeg, dont want to do so much conversions
[12:41] <Warbo> hcjc92: To get a login just uninstall xdm, kdm, wdm and gdm
[12:41] <Warbo> hcjc92: I mean terminal login
[12:41] <J-_> i uninstall azureus and it's still here, can anyone help me?
[12:41] <ompaul> J-_,  sudo apt-get remove --purge <package>
[12:41] <Warbo> hcjc92: To get Flux automatically use GDM but tell it to use Flux as your default, then autologin as you
[12:42] <J-_> k
[12:42] <hcjc92> okay, what?
[12:42] <idefix> how can you see some sort of FTP-log of your PC?
[12:42] <Warbo> hcjc92: Which do you want, text-based login prompt at boot or fluxbox at boot?
[12:42] <J-_> E: Couldn't find package Azureus
[12:43] <_absolution_> would that work with enlightenment "apt-get remove --purge"?
[12:43] <Mopii> hi all
[12:43] <babis85> does anyone know how could have the printer printing dublex pages?
[12:43] <ompaul> J-_, how did you try to remove it?
[12:43] <hcjc92> i WANT a graphic login to flux, but i don't hink there is one, so a text based login
[12:43] <jcorrea920> Hello Ubuntu
[12:43] <_absolution_> or would aptitude work?
[12:43] <Mopii> i have a problem with wine  : fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT not supported on protocol 1
[12:43] <J-_> the way you told me.
[12:43] <Warbo> hcjc92: GDM lets you log into Fluxbox graphically (or a less dependant one would be XDM)
[12:43] <ic56> idefix: log of things you downloaded using an ftp client, or things other people downloaded, using an ftp server you provided?
[12:43] <greddy> hmmm
[12:43] <hcjc92> so get xdm, and get rid of gdm and kdm?
[12:43] <greddy> what does the command deb do?
[12:44] <ompaul> J-_, it found it was not there - how did you try to remove it before?
[12:44] <idefix> ic56 things I downloaded
[12:44] <Warbo> hcjc92: Yes (well you can set which to use, but if you use XDM there is not much point having GDM or KDM)
[12:44] <Mopii> somebody can help me please??
[12:44] <J-_> i removed it with aptitude remove "package name"
[12:44] <idefix> ic56 I forgot in which directory I put them
[12:44] <jonah1980> is sata 400gb ok with linux ext, or is it too big for it?
[12:44] <Warbo> Mopii: That is a VERY specific problem. Try asking the WINE developers
[12:44] <ic56> idefix: I don't think there's a way.  However, you could google for ftp clients that might have that feature.
[12:44] <Warbo> #wine I think
[12:44] <greddy> this tutorial tells me to enter in the command " deb http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/ breezy-seveas freenx" but it says deb isn't a command
[12:45] <giant> does anybody know anything about qt installation?
[12:45] <ompaul> !wine
[12:45] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:45] <idefix> ic56 ok thx, I don't suppose yafc has it then
[12:45] <ic56> idefix: if you're just trying to locate some file, there are ways to do that
[12:45] <Warbo> greddy: That is a line that you put in a text file
[12:45] <ompaul> #winehq?
[12:45] <BrownMan> If I want to update my ATI X300 driver for linux, does anyone know how to do so on linux?
[12:45] <hcjc92> Warbo, okay, i only have xdm now, if i restart is it going to work? (do you think)
[12:45] <Warbo> That's the one :)
[12:45] <greddy> ermmm that means i'm totally lost :P
[12:45] <ic56> idefix: do you know anything about the file?  it's filename?  Perhaps its extension?  Some text in its content?
[12:45] <tarragon> How do i do a text only install?
[12:45] <Warbo> hcjc92: I think so. I have used XDM with fluxbox as the only WM in the system and it logged in fine
[12:45] <J-_> can i just go delete the azurues folder in teh directory?
[12:46] <Warbo> greddy: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" that is the file to put it in
[12:46] <greddy> kk
[12:46] <ompaul> J-_, I would reinstall it and then uninstall it  - if you used a deb to install it
[12:46] <greddy> thanks
[12:46] <jonah1980> my new computer has a sata 400gb drive and i'm worried now it'll get corrupt cos it's too big for ubuntu to handle?
[12:46] <J-_> okay
[12:46] <hcjc92> brb after a restart
[12:46] <hcjc92> hope it works
[12:46] <hcjc92> (and no gdm)
[12:46] <Ribs> jonah1980: It's not an issue
[12:46] <Warbo> tarragon: To install in a text-based installer you will need the "alternate" CD. To install a text-based Ubuntu system use "server" mode
[12:47] <jonah1980> Ribs, no? how big drive can you have with ext?
[12:47] <Warbo> jonah1980: Is it all FAT32? (I doubt it if it contains Ubuntu)
[12:47] <idefix> ic56 yes I just reopened the old connection, thx
[12:47] <greddy> Warbo: what do i do with this? just paste in that line?
[12:47] <jcorrea920> Help greatly appreciated, I have a small problem you may read about it here:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=457956
[12:47] <greddy> then what?
[12:47] <Warbo> greddy: Yes (but no quotes)
[12:48] <Warbo> greddy: "sudo apt-get update" and the packages will be available
[12:48] <tarragon> Warbo - Thanks I will download now.
[12:48] <Ribs> jonah1980: into the terabytes, I believe
[12:48] <ic56> idefix: I meant finding the file you had already downloaded
[12:48] <greddy> okay
[12:48] <jonah1980> Warbo, no my computer is just running ubuntu with ext file system but my new drive is 400gb, is that ok?
[12:48] <n0dl> my friend is having trouble with sound on the website youtube (and google video etc.) primarily with firefox
[12:48] <n0dl> i told him to exit any app taht maybe using sound such as xmms
[12:48] <Ziggy> Ubuntu Podcast
[12:48] <n0dl> and restart firefox but he still gets no results
[12:48] <n0dl> anyone else have any ideas?
[12:49] <Warbo> jonah1980: If 128GB is the limit for FAT32 then try not to go above that, but ext3 has huge limits (terabytes and above I would imagine)
[12:49] <_absolution_> oh that reminds me......is there a way to download podcasts in ubuntu?
[12:49] <greddy> Warbo : do i need to save it some how first?
[12:49] <Warbo> _absolution_: Rhythmbox can do that
[12:49] <jonah1980> Warbo, good i'd hate to mess up my new system! thanks
[12:49] <chopchop_> hi, how can i make vim show bold font in Eterm like in Xterm, this is a screenshot to be clear : http://82.10.194.36:46951/files/Screenshot-1.png
[12:49] <grodius> Does anyone know if there is Flash8 for Ubuntu?
[12:49] <Warbo> greddy: In nano press ctrl-X then Y then Enter
[12:50] <chopchop_> grodius: still no flash8 for linux
[12:50] <greddy> kk
[12:50] <mauper> _absolution: try amarok
[12:50] <grodius> chopchop_ thanks
[12:50] <greddy> i'm a total noob sorry :P
[12:50] <Warbo> No Flash8 for Linux, Flash7 to Flash9
[12:50] <grodius> warbo flash9? how do you get that?
[12:50] <bsdirl> xfmedia > rhythmbox imo
[12:50] <Warbo> grodius: I mean they are going straight TO that. It is not actually available yet
[12:51] <Dial_tone> I saw a howto for flash 8.5 via wine somewhere.
[12:51] <Warbo> In other words there will never be a Flash8 for Linux
[12:51] <grodius> Warbo ok i didnt think so. Thanks alot
[12:51] <n0dl> anyone else experience similar sound probelms with firefox?
[12:51] <jonah1980> i've just got amd64 and i installed amd64 ubuntu, i think if it's there we should use it but i've had a lot of trouble with not having things that were available on my old 32bit ubuntu - eg google earth installs fine but looks a mess and scribus was on 1.3.3.2 on 32bit but now i've got 1.2 which is a huge feature downgrade and i can't open old files up i used to use!
[12:51] <Ziggy> :)
[12:51] <chopchop_> anyone can solve the Eterm problem above?
[12:51] <bsdirl> Warbo: people said UNIX would never have a GUI either..
[12:51] <Warbo> bsdirl: Yes. Do you want to buy permission to make an obsolete version of Flash player?
[12:52] <bsdirl> Warbo: why would I do a stupid thing like that? :|
[12:52] <mauper> jonah1980: just stay tuned, the 32bit bit systems will vanish over time ;)
[12:52] <Warbo> bsdirl: Exactly. Just wait for Flash9
[12:53] <jcorrea920> What is going on everyone?
[12:53] <jonah1980> mauper, do you think it'll take a long time or will a lot of 32bit packages become available quite soon?
[12:53] <chopchop_> hi, how can i make vim show bold font in Eterm like in Xterm, this is a screenshot to be clear : http://82.10.194.36:46951/files/Screenshot-1.png
[12:54] <mauper> jonah1980: who the hell am I to know ... but ... I think: quite soon :)
[12:54] <Warbo> jonah1980: 64 and 32 bit packages of Open Source stuff are usually available (just like they are available on PowerPC, ARM, MIPS, SPARC, etc.) it is the commercial stuff that is stuck on 32bit x86. Another reason not to use it
[12:55] <jcorrea920> What's the best way to format a drive without installing the OS?
[12:55] <ompaul> jcorrea920, fdisk
[12:56] <mauper> ompaul: partitioning vs. formatting ?
[12:56] <_absolution_> can slackware/gentoo/ubuntu run on a same machine?
[12:56] <Warbo> jcorrea920: fdisk for partitioning, mkfs for "formatting"
[12:56] <greddy> Warbo: thanks for the all the help i can't belive i'm actually using linux :D
[12:56] <J-_> wow this is messed up Azureus isn't in /home/usr/share
[12:56] <jcorrea920> ompaul that is what I thought, but what if you want to put a clean disk on a RAID 1 Mirror?
[12:56] <Sleeping_Sloth> mauper: theyre completely different....
[12:56] <J-_> iwsh i knew how i installed it before, grr
[12:56] <Warbo> _absolution_: Yes, but put the bootloaders on partitions instead of on the MBR (only put one on the MBR)
[12:56] <hcjc92> Warbo, something other than flux still starts up, what ever window mangager came with ubuntu, what was it, i want to get rid of it?
[12:57] <Sleeping_Sloth> hcjc92: do you mean gnome?
[12:57] <Warbo> hcjc92: GNOME is Ubuntu's DE, it's WM is Metacity
[12:57] <hcjc92> oh
[12:57] <ompaul> jcorrea920, after you set raid you still need to work through the process
[12:57] <ic56> how do I change the font colour in gnome Terminal?  It's currently black on white.  I want the opposite
[12:58] <Warbo> ic56: In the Profiles dialog
[12:58] <hcjc92> what window manager does kde use, cause i think it might still be around to be a pain in my @$$
[12:58] <greddy> Warbo: if i wanted to edit "/etc/ssh/sshd_config" would i use vi?
[12:58] <jcorrea920> ompaul: the raid is set but when I duplicated the partitions between disks the boot loader didn't duplicate right.
[12:58] <ic56> Warbo: where is the Profiles dialog?
[12:58] <bur[n] er_> can anyone help me with scanning?  I can't get my HP PSC to work... I open "xsane" to scan and it searches for devices, but finds nothing
[12:58] <Masqy> Hi all, may sound a bizzare question at first. Have you ever tried running a multiple desktops on one machine (i.e. two mice, two keyboards, two monitors and two video cards) running on one computer? using ubuntu?
[12:59] <ic56> twrp col
[12:59] <ompaul> jcorrea920, in a case like that I start again
[12:59] <bsdirl> run xfce, it's lighter :)
[12:59] <patrickj> xfce is really nice
[12:59] <patrickj> but xubuntu xfce isnt :\
[01:00] <bur[n] er_> I like xubuntu xfce
[01:00] <bsdirl> that bad huh?
[01:00] <bur[n] er_> the Xfce cvs stuff is amazing :)
[01:00] <bur[n] er_> thunar is amazing
[01:00] <jcorrea920> ompaul: I want to format the faulty disk and place it back in service hopping that it will duplicate correctly this time.
[01:00] <bur[n] er_> bsdirl: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and you'll have xubuntu
[01:00] <bur[n] er_> bsdirl: using dapper I presume?
[01:00] <bsdirl> on dialup? puhleeze
[01:00] <Sleeping_Sloth> masqy: why would you want to do that?
[01:00] <bsdirl> nah, I'm old skool, using my breezy CDs I got sent last year
[01:01] <Warbo> ic56: Edit menu?
[01:01] <bur[n] er_> xubuntu-desktop over dialup is doable
[01:01] <bur[n] er_> ubuntu-desktop over dialup is not
[01:01] <patrickj> lol
[01:01] <sktx> heh
[01:01] <bsdirl> i got xfce on dialup, took like 2.5 hrs
[01:01] <bsdirl> with apt
[01:01] <sktx> i downloaded the entire dapper alternative CD over dialup
[01:01] <patrickj> the xubuntu xfce is more so like gnome..which it isnt supposed to be like it
[01:01] <bur[n] er_> chances are you have almost everything that xubuntu-desktop includes
[01:01] <Masqy> Sleeping_Sloth: Saving the price of buying two computers. This way 2 people may use the same computer at the same time 3Ghz computer can surely handle that.
[01:01] <bur[n] er_> bsdirl: have you tried "thunar" ?
[01:01] <bsdirl> sktx: I downloaded NetBSD on dialup years ago, that was 128m and too much.
[01:01] <sktx> heh
[01:01] <bsdirl> bur[n] er_, wtf is thunar if you dont mind my asking?
[01:02] <sktx> dapper alt. took me like a week
[01:02] <bur[n] er_> thunar is the new Xfce file manager :)
[01:02] <sktx> the trick is to use wget
[01:02] <bsdirl> hmmm
[01:02] <bur[n] er_> very new, but very fast and very usable
[01:02] <bsdirl> wget ftw yeah
[01:02] <patrickj> bsdirl: http://thunar.xfce.org
[01:02] <judah> for all of you that have found that audio in youtube and google video has stopped working for you..
[01:02] <judah> http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/
[01:02] <bsdirl> why ty
[01:02] <jcorrea920> ompaul: being a noob I am not sure how to reformat the disk especially when people recommend using a debian installer.
[01:02] <sktx> wget rawks my socks
[01:02] <ani_max> Anyone know how to bypass startup disk check in Ubuntu Or run a force-check to fix FAT32 partitions?
[01:02] <ic56> Warbo: where is the Edit menu?  Sorry, I'm feeling so GUI-clueless!
[01:02] <bsdirl> I wonder if it's possible for me to include a basic shell script for newbie's system info for this project
[01:02] <bsdirl> lol
[01:03] <Sleeping_Sloth> masqy: sounds like you're talking about a thin client topology, but you wouldnt be able to do it with just one machine the way you're describing
[01:03] <^jacob^> does Dapper work using MSN and ICQ?
[01:03] <sktx> :D
[01:03] <thenuke> I cant see any video in youtube
[01:03] <ompaul> jcorrea920, set the partitions to be equal in size and do them one at a time that is all
[01:03] <patrickj> d4x <3
[01:03] <bsdirl> I made one that displays uname -r, uname -a, timestamps the request, makes an html file and opens it.
[01:03] <sktx> ^jacob^: gaim is your friend
[01:03] <patrickj> linux <3
[01:03] <Warbo> ic56: At the top of the window?
[01:03] <patrickj> bluefish <3
[01:03] <judah> ani_max: fsck.vfat
[01:03] <bur[n] er_> ^jacob^: using gaim, yes
[01:03] <bsdirl> now if uhh i can only get it to remove the html file without typing "rm cleanup.sh" I'll be alright.
[01:03] <patrickj> me <3
[01:03] <ani_max> judah: Thanks. Is that the cmd i run in terminal?
[01:03] <^jacob^> does Gaim support ICQ?
[01:03] <thenuke> googlevideos seem not to work anymore either
[01:03] <Warbo> thenuke: You need a proriatary Flash plugin
[01:04] <thenuke> Warbo: but I have it :I
[01:04] <jcorrea920> ompaul: the partitions already exist. Should I use knoppix and mkfs to format them?
[01:04] <Warbo> thenuke: Did you install Gnash afterwards?
[01:04] <judah> ani_max: yes. read  `man fsck.vfat` it will give you the lowdown.
[01:04] <ani_max> ^jacob^: It does support ICQ/IRC/MSN/Yahoo/Jabber
[01:04] <^jacob^> sktx: does Gaim support ICQ?
[01:04] <^jacob^> ani_max: you 100% certain?
[01:04] <judah> ^jacob^: for like a billioin years.
[01:04] <sktx> ^jacob^: gaim does aim, msn, icq, irc, jabber, and more if i recall correctly
[01:04] <ani_max> ^jacob^: Cos I use them :)
[01:05] <thenuke> Warbo: no I dont have gnash
[01:05] <^jacob^> ani_max: ok thanks
[01:05] <judah> ^jacob^: ibm sametime as well.. probably a trillion more.
[01:05] <Warbo> thenuke: OK, jsut that that screwed up my Flash :)
[01:05] <jumbers> sktx: It doesn't do Jabber natively, you need a plugin
[01:05] <^jacob^> sktx: ok
[01:05] <hcjc92> Warbo, what wm comes with xdm?
[01:05] <judah> <3 gaim
[01:05] <Warbo> hcjc92: none
[01:05] <hcjc92> cause something other than flux is starting up
[01:05] <sktx> jumbers: ahh dodn
[01:05] <bsdirl> Hm, I wonder if theres a way for a noob like me to combine my shell script with a nice python gui
[01:05] <sktx> jumbers: ahh didn't know that
[01:05] <bsdirl>  to display what's going on.
[01:05] <hcjc92> Warbo, then what do i have that starts up that isn't gnome....
[01:05] <ani_max> judah: I'm a n00b to linux. Where is 'man fsck.vfat'?
[01:05] <hcjc92> i cna't think of anything
[01:05] <bur[n] er_> bsdirl: check out PyGTK
[01:05] <Warbo> hcjc92: Uninstall: Windowmaker, blackbox, enlightenment, e16, e17, KDE, GNOME, XFCE
[01:06] <jumbers> sktx: The plugin in available in Synaptic though :)
[01:06] <judah> ani_max: just type that on the command line.
[01:06] <bur[n] er_> Python isn't a gui by itself....
[01:06] <judah> !man
[01:06] <Warbo> hcjc92: Maybe more
[01:06] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[01:06] <bsdirl> yknow what I meant
[01:06] <Sleeping_Sloth> warbo: compiz?
[01:06] <sktx> jumbers: synaptic makes life good
[01:06] <^jacob^> if I have a hard drive with XP on it, can I install Dapper and have it create a dual boot?
[01:06] <bsdirl> something simple I can build a little form with
[01:06] <ani_max> judah: thanks
[01:06] <bur[n] er_> ^jacob^: duh ;)
[01:06] <bsdirl> ^jacob^: sure
[01:06] <Warbo> Sleeping_Sloth: Compiz doesn't work standalone does it?
[01:06] <bsdirl> at least you can with breezy *waits impatiently on dapper CDs* :>
[01:06] <bur[n] er_> standalone Warbo?
[01:06] <Sleeping_Sloth> warbo: ah - sorry
[01:06] <^jacob^> bsdirl: how?
[01:06] <sktx> any MMORPGers in here? what games y'all play?
[01:07] <bsdirl> UO :)
[01:07] <^jacob^> bur[n] er_: why duh?
[01:07] <idefix> once you started an ftp client, can you change the dir of your local machine?
[01:07] <Chetic> UO ftw!!
[01:07] <Chetic> UO!!
[01:07] <sktx> haha
[01:07] <bsdirl> hehe
[01:07] <Warbo> bur[n] er_: Without GNOME, KDE, etc
[01:07] <bsdirl> uo+winoe
[01:07] <Chetic> sorry I was just too excited
[01:07] <^jacob^> bur[n] er_: does Dapper keep XP and install itself automatically?
[01:07] <Chetic> yeah UO works great with wine
[01:07] <bur[n] er_> ^jacob^: of course you can... the new installer was designed with that in mind
[01:07] <Sleeping_Sloth> sktx: I was playing guild wars on windows- but not on linux :/
[01:07] <Chetic> in two ways ;)
[01:07] <bsdirl> too bad the sound in wine/ubuntu isn't like it is on puppy
[01:07] <ic56> Warbo: ok, found it.  To change the font colour in gnome Terminal, right click within the terminal window, then choose "edit current profile", a window pops-up.  Go to "Colours" tab.  Your Terminal probably has task icons at the top.  I always disable these to get more screen real estate.  Thx for the help, Warbo
[01:07] <bsdirl> *sniff*
[01:07] <sktx> there's a monthly fee for UO there isn't there?
[01:07] <Chetic> well, if you play on those servers, yes :p
[01:07] <bur[n] er_> ^jacob^: you have to repartition your free space to make a new area for ubuntu
[01:07] <bsdirl> puppy apparently has GREAT configuration/integration with wine.
[01:07] <^jacob^> bur[n] er_: so its safe to install and not have XP deleted?  do I need to tell Dapper to keep XP??
[01:07] <bsdirl> Chetic: UOG Hybrid
[01:08] <bur[n] er_> ^jacob^: the wizard walks you through it ;)
[01:08] <Sleeping_Sloth> sktx: I'm too tight ot pay a subscription. it rubs me up the wrong way, WINE derivative being subscription
[01:08] <kholerabbi> I don't know if this is normal - but dapper has "keyboard label |" prefixed to a lot of the shortcut examples in menues - for example "keyboard label | Ctrl+M" - WHAT is this!? please does anyone else have it?
[01:08] <^jacob^> bur[n] er_: how do I repartion it without losing XP?
[01:08] <Chetic> bsdirl: yep yep.. I used to be an admin on Demise
[01:08] <Warbo> ic56: Coming in here with your customised configs then wondering where the buttons are, some people :)
[01:08] <sktx> yeah i refuse to pay to do anything on my computer
[01:08] <hcjc92> Warbo, there isn't anything there, you know the thing that has the ugly orange background that comes up when you start ubuntu, what the heck is that, i don't want that i want flux?
[01:08] <bur[n] er_> ^jacob^: you'll get to a step where it says "wipe out drive completely" or "resize current OS to make room for ubuntu" and you want the latter
[01:08] <Sleeping_Sloth> sktx: what do you play?
[01:08] <sktx> if i have to pay, i just won't do it.
[01:08] <bur[n] er_> ^jacob^: just try the wizard ;)  you'll get it
[01:08] <sktx> sktx: i used to play tibia, and then i was playing knight online
[01:08] <^jacob^> bur[n] er_: ok ty
[01:08] <Chetic> sktx: you don't HAVE to pay
[01:08] <CokeNCode> hey, goodnight fooks
[01:08] <^jacob^> bur[n] er_: as long as I dont lose XP
[01:08] <CokeNCode> folks
[01:09] <Warbo> hcjc92: I use E16 and that ugly wallpaper comes up for me (so I have to override it in E16)
[01:09] <Chetic> sktx: look up UOGateway
[01:09] <bsdirl> my cousin just paid 180 bucks + his PSP + some games for an xbox 360, and we can't play KOTOR becaus ehe needs an HDD
[01:09] <Sleeping_Sloth> stkx: I've played a bit of armagetron, which is quite good fun, but I want to get openTTD, for old times sake
[01:09] <bur[n] er_> ^jacob^: no worries, it'll be in a nice new boot menu when you start the computer
[01:09] <^jacob^> bur[n] er_: sounds good :)
[01:09] <sktx> armagetron kicks ass
[01:09] <CokeNCode> i have a problem here, downloaded a video, but none of the players i have will open it, says they don't have the necessary codec
[01:09] <bsdirl> and he said "HDDs are only 100 dollars"
[01:09] <bsdirl> :|
[01:09] <CokeNCode> what should i apt-get ?
[01:09] <bsdirl> thank you M$...
[01:09] <Warbo> !restricted
[01:09] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:09] <hcjc92> Warbo, no, but somehting is starting up that isn't flux box... and i don't know what it is
[01:09] <Sleeping_Sloth> has anyone on here got openttd working?
[01:09] <sktx> Chetic: tnx
[01:09] <^jacob^> bur[n] er_: do I have to tell it hda2 etc and create a swap drive?  or it does it for me automatically?
[01:09] <sktx> anyone play planeshift
[01:09] <sktx> >
[01:09] <Chetic> How the heck do I mount my digital camera? I want those pictures :(
[01:09] <SeanTater> I'm trying to use dalbum (php web-album), but when I try to reindex it, it says GD library is not installed. I installed php5-gd, but it does not work, what should I do?
[01:09] <Warbo> hcjc92: Can you try "ps ax" and see what is running?
[01:09] <andax> i have a strange problem here since I installed a few updates today, generally the problem is that the "enter key" doesn't work anymore under X. it does work when logging in via GDM, but not after i have logged into gnome. The the enter key on the numeric keypad still works. Any ideas? (dapper )
[01:09] <bur[n] er_> ^jacob^: it's pretty intuitive and will do it
[01:10] <^jacob^> Chetic: ROFL
[01:10] <bsdirl> wish i had the bandwidth + DRI for my card
[01:10] <^jacob^> bur[n] er_: ok
[01:10] <bsdirl> planeshift looks SEKSI
[01:10] <ic56> Warbo: I know... :-)  The trouble is, it's easy to forget what customizations you've done -- especially if you've been doing them consistently over the years.  Even when icons are present on the screen, I'm likely to not see them when looking for functionality :-(
[01:10] <CokeNCode> i already have w32codecs installed
[01:10] <CokeNCode> : /
[01:10] <hcjc92> gnome! why won't it die!~
[01:10] <bur[n] er_> CokeNCode: totem-xine?
[01:10] <bsdirl> thinking about making my own basic 3d rpg with irrlicht when my dapper CDs get here (no 3d accel until dapper)
[01:10] <CokeNCode> bur[n] er_, have that
[01:10] <bur[n] er_> CokeNCode: what player are you trying to use?  totem?
[01:10] <bur[n] er_> CokeNCode: what's the filetype?
[01:10] <bsdirl> CokeNCode: get gxine
[01:11] <CokeNCode> it's an avi file
[01:11] <bsdirl> it owns
[01:11] <Warbo> Looks like hcjc92 learnt that killing GNOME is not such a good idea......
[01:11] <dli> andax, read you /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:11] <CokeNCode> i was using vlc player at first
[01:11] <bsdirl> gxine handles avi's fine
[01:11] <bur[n] er_> CokeNCode: do you have all the gstreamer0.10-*
[01:11] <CokeNCode> also used totem
[01:11] <andax> dli, thanks
[01:11] <mish4> how do i configure xgl
[01:11] <bsdirl> peace yall
[01:11] <mish4> and or set a super-key
[01:11] <Warbo> mish4: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xgl"?
[01:11] <bur[n] er_> mish4: that's configuring compiz... get gset-compiz
[01:11] <idefix> what's wrong with the command mv P1000299.JPG ./pictures/
[01:11] <idefix> ?
[01:11] <Chetic> ^jacob^: what's so funny? :p
[01:11] <idefix> (while FTP-ing)
[01:11] <Sleeping_Sloth> nobody on here has plkayed openttd?
[01:11] <bur[n] er_> mish4: also, use quinnstorm's repos for access to gset-compiz
[01:11] <^jacob^> Chetic: nothing ;)
[01:11] <CokeNCode> bur[n] er_, ammm, dunno
[01:12] <^jacob^> Chetic: just the way you said it ;)
[01:12] <slavezero> can someone take a look at a problem i have with ndiswrapper i just pasted it @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/      slavezero_ndiswrapper
[01:12] <bur[n] er_> CokeNCode: .avi .mpeg .qt .ram ??
[01:12] <CokeNCode> bur[n] er_, downloading gxine right now
[01:12] <CokeNCode> bur[n] er_, avi file
[01:12] <bur[n] er_> if totem-xine doesn't do it... gxine won't
[01:12] <bur[n] er_> it's all the same backend
[01:12] <CokeNCode> oh k
[01:12] <CokeNCode> fudge
[01:12] <CokeNCode> so what to get ?
[01:12] <Chetic> ^jacob^: yeah okay :p
[01:12] <^jacob^> is it worth upgrading to Dapper from Breezy?
[01:12] <bur[n] er_> it's prolly xvid or divx or possibly not fully downloaded
[01:12] <bur[n] er_> CokeNCode: it play in windows?
[01:13] <CokeNCode> errr, haven't tried playing it in windows yet actually
[01:13] <bur[n] er_> CokeNCode: check that restricted wiki page
[01:13] <K^Holtz> i just installed frostwire, it wont open because its telling me there is a java issue, however, i have java already installed
[01:13] <bur[n] er_> CokeNCode: you may not have the whole thing downloaded... .avi's rely on full file to play
[01:13] <Warbo> K^Holtz: Is it the Sun one?
[01:13] <CokeNCode> bur[n] er_, yeh, it's part of a torrent, the first is fully downloaded tho ... i think
[01:13] <K^Holtz> Warbo: yes
[01:13] <CokeNCode> hmmm, divx doesn't play unless it's fully downloaded ?
[01:13] <bur[n] er_> nope
[01:13] <CokeNCode> bur[n] er_, ok, thanks
[01:13] <CokeNCode> weird
[01:13] <ic56> idefix: I think that command should work, in yafc.  Are you sure you spelled teh filenames right?  Rmemeber, unix is case-sensitive
[01:14] <Warbo> K^Holtz: OK, because blackdown may give problems (since it is 1.4 not 1.5)
[01:14] <CokeNCode> but, i thought the first file was done at least ... oh well, i'll just be patient and see
[01:14] <CokeNCode> if not, i'll be back
[01:14] <blameless> this is a bit of a silly question, but i can't find anywhere how to use xfs instead of ext3 on a new dapper installation.  is it a boot option?
[01:14] <ani_max> CokeNCode: Cos the file index is stored at the end of the divx file
[01:14] <bur[n] er_> same on windows for the most part CokeNCode... media player classic can, but just barely
[01:14] <K^Holtz> Warbo: its hows up in Applications > Internet as Sun Java 5.0 Web Start
[01:14] <mish4> sudo apt-get gset-compiz didnt work; what is quinnstorm's repos ?
[01:14] <Warbo> K^Holtz: Is there a ".jar" file which you could try to run with "java -jar filename.jar"?
[01:15] <K^Holtz> Warbo: Frostwire was a .deb file, i unpackaged it and it installed correctly
[01:15] <bur[n] er_> mish4: good for quinnstorm's repos ;)
[01:15] <mish4> do you mean google?
[01:15] <bur[n] er_> er... yeah ;)
[01:15] <bur[n] er_> wtf
[01:15] <K^Holtz> Warbo: i installed java using the ubuntu starter guide instructions
[01:15] <andax> dli, thanks now it's working again :)
[01:15] <Jesse_> im just about to install ubuntu (im in the live part right now) and im going to install the mbr to a floppy following the directions in a tutorial on the forums and was wondering how can i check if the floppy drives path is actually /dev/fd0
[01:16] <Warbo> K^Holtz: Yes, but the actual program file itself may end in .jar. In that case you can run it directly with the java program and see if it works (look in Synaptic for the frostwire package and look in Properties>Installed Files)
[01:16] <odla> hi is the desktop cd the same as the live/install cd?
[01:16] <bur[n] er_> mish4: deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz dapper main
[01:16] <andax> this compiz stuff is a little hmm strange with the wobbly effect after a few beers :)
[01:16] <mish4> i think i have that
[01:16] <bur[n] er_> mish4: there are also updated compiz packages :)
[01:16] <sg1_> hello, I have used the remote desktop feature and then vncviewer to connect local computer but would now like to connect to a computer over the internet so would like to enable SSL or SSH, how is this possible?
[01:16] <Warbo> andax: You don;t need compiz after a few beers :)
[01:17] <bur[n] er_> sg1_: neither... forward port 5900
[01:17] <sg1_> I still want to enable SSL or SSH for security how is this possible
[01:17] <bur[n] er_> sg1_: er... nevermind, i misunderstood... sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:17] <mish4> E: Invalid operation gset-compiz
[01:17] <_absolution_> anyone here ever installed slackware?......do I need an internet connection?
[01:17] <bur[n] er_> mish4: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gset-compiz && gset-compiz
[01:17] <andax> mish4, you mean "apt-get install gset-compiz"
[01:18] <sg1_> how do i make that wotk with remote desktop bur?
[01:18] <kitsuneofdoom> quick question...GNOME CD/DVD creator is making coasters for me
[01:18] <^jacob^> _absolution_: I used to use slackware
[01:18] <bur[n] er_> sg1_: you need to do some ssh tunneling
[01:18] <bur[n] er_> sg1_: coming in from a windows box or linux?
[01:18] <^jacob^> _absolution_: and I installed it without net
[01:18] <_absolution_> oh....
[01:19] <^jacob^> _absolution_: are you new to linux?
[01:19] <bur[n] er_> kitsuneofdoom: that's not a question... but I'd recommend using gnomebaker
[01:19] <^jacob^> _absolution_: if so, you cant install slackware
[01:19] <Jesse_> how can i check if /dev/fd0 is my floppy drive?
[01:19] <sg1_> burner, from linux to linux, but also will be windows to linux but mostly linux to linux
[01:19] <kitsuneofdoom> k
[01:19] <K^Holtz> Warbo: here is my Installed files for Frostwire: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17375
[01:19] <^jacob^> sg1_: why not?
[01:19] <kitsuneofdoom> bur[n] er_: is that on Ubuntu's repositories
[01:19] <bur[n] er_> sg1_: in that case... ever do X forwarding?  it may be cooler than VNC for you
[01:19] <kbrooks> ^jacob^: yes he CAN
[01:20] <Kilopopo> hi
[01:20] <lmml> I'm new to linux and this whole thing but I know ubuntu installed the 386 kernel. how can i change/upgrade it to the k7 kernel?
[01:20] <Kilopopo> i dont think terminal is an accessory
[01:20] <bur[n] er_> sg1_: ssh -X -l username blah.com, then run a gui app like "gedit"
[01:20] <kbrooks> ^jacob^: ***no, he SHOULDNT***
[01:20] <^jacob^> kbrooks: shouldnt what?
[01:20] <K^Holtz> Warbo: there are a few .jar files.. but i dunno which one would be the one to try to open
[01:20] <ic56> what's a good fixed-width terminal font availablable at less than size 8?  The default "system terminal font" seems thicker on parts of a character and thin on other parts of the character, which makes maddeningly hard to read
[01:20] <[Wiebel] > !xgl?
[01:20] <[Wiebel] > !xgl
[01:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about xgl?
[01:20] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:20] <sg1_> burner. i dont need to change nothing at the server?
[01:20] <kbrooks> ^jacob^: Install slackware
[01:20] <ani_max> When I type 'apt-get build-dep wine' I get an error. How do I get root?
[01:20] <^jacob^> kbrooks: exactly!
[01:21] <lmml> !k7
[01:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about k7
[01:21] <IcemanV9> lmml: sudo aptitude install linux-k7
[01:21] <bur[n] er_> sg1_: I forget... try it first... if you do, it's in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[01:21] <spyder2k5> ani_max:  try apt-get install wine
[01:21] <fractalworld> Would someone running 6.06 LTS please check whether they have a usb-related rule file in /etc/udev/rules.d?  I am having trouble with my USB configuration.  Thanks.
[01:21] <lmml> IcemanV9: nothing else?
[01:21] <spyder2k5> ani_max:  try sudo apt-get install wine
[01:21] <IcemanV9> lmml: that's it
[01:21] <tredlig> !freenx
[01:21] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[01:22] <ani_max> spyder2k5: Thanks but I have AMD64 so doesnt run. Thinking of compiling one, uless you know some other way?
[01:22] <lmml> how would I go about unistalling the 386 kernel then?
[01:22] <sg1_> burner what do you mean? install open ssh then use that command from the viewer? sorry misunderstood also
[01:22] <fractalworld> If you do have such a file, could you please run "dpkg -S <path to file>" and tell me the owning package?
[01:22] <bur[n] er_> sg1_: msg me?
[01:22] <Kilopopo> i dont think terminal is an accessory
[01:22] <spyder2k5> ani_max:  hmmmm search repositories for a 64 bit version otherwise u are going to have to compile your own :(
[01:23] <ic56> Jesse: try sudo cat /dev/fd0 >/dev/null .  If the drive motor spins up, that's your drive.  You'll get an error too -- disregard it.
[01:23] <lmml> IcemanV9: how would i uninstall the old 386 kernel then?
[01:23] <IcemanV9> lmml: you don't have to, but if you want - sudo aptitude remove linux-386
[01:23] <ani_max> spyder2k5: Searched but didnt get Wine 64bit. When I type I get errors and asks me if I'm root? How do I login there?
[01:24] <lmml> is aptitude like get-apt?
[01:24] <IcemanV9> lmml: yes
[01:24] <bbrazil> lmml: yes, but better
[01:24] <Warbo> K^Holtz: Sorry, I was away. If there is one called "frostwire.jar" then I would go with that
[01:24] <spyder2k5> ani_max:  use sudo apt-get
[01:24] <andax> ani_max, you become root by typing "sudo sh" then enter your password.
[01:24] <Warbo> lmml: aptitude has an interface
[01:24] <ani_max> andax: thanks
[01:24] <tredlig> wtf the ubuntu forums are requiring a login?
[01:25] <K^Holtz> Warbo: ok, i found one that has /usr/lib/frostwire/FrostWire.jar .. now what are your suggesting i do?
[01:25] <spyder2k5> they are down ATM
[01:25] <bbrazil> andax: please don't tell people that. Point them to the rootsudo page on the wiki
[01:25] <tredlig> anyone here use freenx server running on ubuntu and acessing it from a windows machine?
[01:25] <bbrazil> andax: also, sudo -i is better :)
[01:25] <Warbo> K^Holtz: "java -jar /usr/lib/frostwire/FrostWire.jar"
[01:25] <fractalworld> lmml:  Ubuntu also offers synaptic.
[01:25] <spyder2k5> brb
[01:26] <bur[n] er> sg1_: get it figured out?
[01:26] <patrickj> is there a guide for setting up apache+mysql+php+perl on ubuntu
[01:26] <tich> does anyone use 'listen' as a music player? i can't get the ipod icon to show up in the middle pane.
[01:26] <patrickj> because I dont wanna upload my filed everytime I make a change :P
[01:26] <bur[n] er> patrickj: try the documentation?
[01:26] <spyder2k5> back
[01:26] <patrickj> bur[n] er: what documentation?
[01:26] <spyder2k5> ani_max:  u get it?
[01:26] <bur[n] er> patrickj: help.ubuntu.com
[01:26] <Syco54645> i really snafu'd wine.  i compiled the cvs, and now wine doesnt work at all.  everytime i try to run something i get crazy dll errors.  what could be causing that?
[01:27] <bur[n] er> patrickj: check under "server guide"
[01:27] <ani_max> spyder2k5: yep. thanks. It says to d/l 89 MB of files. Will take a while i guess
[01:27] <spyder2k5> Syco54645: u try recompiling a stable release?
[01:27] <Syco54645> spyder2k5: it was cvs.  i wanted to see how the dx support was coming along
[01:27] <spyder2k5> ani_max:  depends on your connection anytime :)
[01:27] <K^Holtz> Warbo: i dont think it worked
[01:28] <spyder2k5> Syco54645:  i realize that but seeing its not working try a stable release and start over
[01:28] <K^Holtz> Warbo: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit is just one of the many lines output
[01:28] <Syco54645> spyder2k5: i moved back to 0.9.9 and it still doesnt work
[01:28] <spyder2k5> Syco54645:  what are the errors?
[01:28] <Syco54645> spyder2k5: ill pastebin it
[01:29] <ani_max> spyder2k5: I just tried going to ubuntuforums.org to search for Wine 64 build and it keeps asking me for a user/pwd? It didnt before :o
[01:29] <spyder2k5> Syco54645:  kk u could also PM me here
[01:29] <spyder2k5> ani_max: its down they are upgrading
[01:29] <joebu23> how come i cant get into the ubuntu forums?
[01:29] <ani_max> spyder2k5: Oh thanks
[01:29] <bur[n] er> patrickj: i'm an ass... here's a better url http://digg.com/linux_unix/How_To_Build_A_LAMP_Server_With_Ubuntu_6.06_LTS
[01:29] <Syco54645> spyder2k5: ok i will just do that then
[01:29] <spyder2k5> joebu23: its down they are upgrading
[01:30] <joebu23> spyder, thanks
[01:30] <patrickj> bur[n] er: thanks :d
[01:30] <joebu23> anyone know how to install the egalax touchkit driver?
[01:30] <sg1_> hmm i have only just reinstalled linux, how come su in a console never works? as in the password is never accepted
[01:30] <sg1_> sudo passwd or something to set a new one?
[01:31] <Healot> !root < sg1_
[01:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about root < sg1_
[01:31] <Healot> !root > sg1_
[01:32] <odla> hi is the desktop cd the same as the live/install cd
[01:32] <bernouli> i install ubuntu on my centrino notebook, as i trying to control the cpufreq, i cant find the ordner /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ does it seem to be normal?
[01:32] <tredlig> why is the ubuntuforums requiring me to log in?
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> I am looking for someone that has installed Sauerbratten FPS game
[01:33] <kbrooks> tredlig: it doesnt
[01:33] <tredlig> it is for me :/
[01:33] <kbrooks> tredlig: how is it? what did u click
[01:33] <bernouli> !acpi
[01:33] <tredlig> it pops up a log when i enter the url
[01:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about acpi
[01:33] <sysrpl> hello
[01:33] <kbrooks> tredlig: me too... :/
[01:33] <bernouli> !laptop
[01:33] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> odla: YEs
[01:34] <sysrpl> does "OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 915GM 20050225" from glxinfo mean i have full hardware opengl acceleration installed?
[01:34] <fractalworld> Asking again:  Would someone running 6.06 LTS please check whether they have a usb-related rule file in /etc/udev/rules.d?  I am having trouble with my USB configuration.  Thanks.
[01:34] <fractalworld> If you do have such a file, could you please run "dpkg -S <path to file>" and tell me the owning package?
[01:34] <Warbo> K^Holtz: Try installing "galternatives" then running it with sudo and choosing the default Java for your system (it may be using GCJ)
[01:34] <Kibou> sysrpl: yes
[01:35] <lmml> damn... the instructions I needed to get my fglrx to work is on the forums.. and now they're down
[01:35] <vem0m> sysrpl: no u do not
[01:35] <sysrpl> okay
[01:35] <K^Holtz> Warbo: i heard running P2P software under root is a very bad idea
[01:35] <isai> hi
[01:35] <vem0m> sysrpl:  check your framerate
[01:35] <tredlig> anyone ever use the freenx windows client to log into a ubuntu machine running the server?
[01:35] <sysrpl> the Intel 915GM is a pretty powerful 3D chipset
[01:36] <sysrpl> glxgear ... and what swittch?
[01:36] <kimo> sysrpl: why do u say that?
[01:36] <Kibou> -printfps which doesn't mean anything
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> -printfps
[01:36] <sysrpl> why do i say 915GM is powerful?
[01:36] <isai> was upgrading from breezy to dapper with apt-get. The upgrade almost finished and then choked on 1 package. How can I just remove that 1 package and then continue the upgrade?
[01:36] <kimo> sysrpl: yes
[01:36] <vem0m> sysrpl:  glxgears -printfps
[01:36] <Warbo> K^Holtz: That is nothing to do with P2P. From your error message it looks like the "GCJ" Java environment is being used instead of the Sun one. Galternatives sets up the "alternatives" system, which basically means you can choose which thing you prefer if you have many applications which do the same job (liek having many Java environments installed)
[01:37] <joebu23> how do i get the kernel source for dapper
[01:37] <vem0m> lmml: will only be a couple of hours
[01:37] <slavezero> can someone refresh my memory on term find command
[01:37] <patrickj> yay
[01:37] <JerKB> Here's a fun one... My keyboard won't respond until after grub times out and the default kernel starts booting.  The num/scroll/caps lock buttons will light up but it's like the keys aren't working.  Any ideas?  I can't even hit del to get into the BIOS.  I'm at a total loss.
[01:37] <sysrpl> i say 915GM is powerful because i normally develop opengl under windows and have benchmarked the chipset there and it's very fast and supports many extensions
[01:37] <patrickj> got lamp going :D
[01:37] <cyphase> does ubuntu include xvid support by default?
[01:37] <JerKB> I've tried 3 different keyboards
[01:37] <patrickj> how can I get perl on it though?
[01:37] <kimo> slavezero: find /tmp -name somename
[01:37] <lmml> its alright.. I havn't had any luck getting fglrx loaded anyways.. always says mesa3d drivers are still loaded
[01:37] <cyphase> it's an open format, isn't it?
[01:37] <aXanaXa> can anyone here help with a syslog question?  I have 7 Netgear FVS318 firewalls logging to a syslog server and I am wondering how I can filter their logging information to its own file such as /var/log/firewalls.log.  I tried using local7.* and no dice.  I am not sure the facility that Netgear uses.  Is there a way that I can match expressions?  For instance there is always the word ACE in each entry.
[01:37] <lmml> I've tried like 5 times
[01:38] <Warbo> joebu23: !sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`"
[01:38] <hyphenated> JerKB: all USB ones?
[01:38] <tredlig> no one has used a freenx client in windows? :/
[01:38] <JerKB> ps/2
[01:38] <Warbo> OOps, " not ! (not used anyway :) )
[01:38] <JerKB> i don't have any usb keyboards.
[01:38] <hyphenated> JerKB: odd. and it works while you're at the grub menu to choose a kernel to boot?
[01:38] <K^Holtz> Warbo: here is the output from the frostwire startup, if this helps u figure out what the problem is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17376
[01:38] <sysrpl> 6479 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1295.764 FPS
[01:38] <JerKB> no, it won't work there
[01:38] <vem0m> sysrpl:  intel processors are usally crap try ATi
[01:38] <kimo> tredlig: used it with server on rhel
[01:38] <JerKB> but as soon as the kernel starts booting, it works fine
[01:38] <sysrpl> 6514 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1302.680 FPS
[01:38] <vem0m> sysrpl: intel GPUS*
[01:38] <hyphenated> JerKB: oh. that's pretty odd :-)
[01:38] <joebu23> warno: thanks
[01:39] <joebu23> warbo: thanks
[01:39] <slavezero> kimo: thanks
[01:39] <kimo> sysrpl: better try nvidia
[01:39] <sysrpl> 6479 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1295.764 FPS
[01:39] <JerKB> yeah i've never seen anything like it.  it's blowing my mind trying to figure out what the heck it is.
[01:39] <Kibou> geez.. try anything BUT ati.. but the intel integrated graphics are well supported under linux
[01:39] <sysrpl> this is a laptop
[01:39] <vem0m> sysrpl: sounds good thing is tho great FPS btw but u njeed to think about its ingame or whatever capabilities
[01:39] <twidget> Any Danes in here?
[01:39] <sysrpl> 1302 seems like a good framerate
[01:39] <roostishaw> how do i get transparent panels in gnome?
[01:39] <hyphenated> JerKB: google for your bios and "keyboard not working" or something
[01:39] <vem0m> i hate nvidia i would never use it  BLAH
[01:40] <Kibou> your loss
[01:40] <Healot> !sv
[01:40] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[01:40] <lostinc> LOL try SIS it ahs zero support
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> vem0m: Why recommend ATI when so many people are having problems with them...  Nvidia chipsets seem to be the best choice for video cards in linux...(THis week)
[01:40] <dli> sysrpl, I would buy intel video only, enough torture from nvidia
[01:40] <sysrpl> ven0m: i usually run demos
[01:40] <Healot> !dk
[01:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu diskussion paa dansk kan foeres i #ubuntu-dk
[01:40] <jrib> roostishaw: right click on the panel and go to properties, background
[01:40] <patrickj> !pl
[01:40] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[01:40] <patrickj> !fr
[01:40] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:40] <sysrpl> so from  that 1302 framerate it sems fully aceellerated
[01:40] <JerKB> yeah, i'm kinda at this desperate stage in the whole keyboard thing.  I'm googling now, but somehow think i'm not going to find anything lol
[01:40] <patrickj> there we go
[01:40] <roostishaw> jrib, then what?
[01:40] <patrickj> francais
[01:40] <sysrpl> but the vendo strig has the word VESA in it
[01:41] <sysrpl> vendor string
[01:41] <jrib> roostishaw: solid color, then drag to transparent
[01:41] <morten_> Hi, I seem to have a problem installing codecs for mplayer.
[01:41] <Whoopie> Hi, I'm a little bit confused. After the language-pack updates today, gnome-power-manager shows new german translations for suspend/hibernate on one machine, but not on another machine. I already rebooted, but no change. Any ideas?
[01:41] <morten_> I run dapper, amd64.
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> sysrpl: My old nvidia gets 4500 fps
[01:41] <sanityx> Hi, I'm getting a strange error with my cd-rom drive when using ubuntu Linux.
[01:41] <jrib> morten_: where do you get stuck?
[01:41] <HackerX2> ~***Is there any WIFI finders like kismet that work with ndiswrapper???***~
[01:41] <vem0m> Jack_Sparrow: although nvidia has more linux support its easy to install with the right guide 5 min max install time also of note they run quicker and faster nvidia burns in wrong and can overheat easy causing less proformance then they already do or burn out
[01:41] <JerKB> the first screen goes by so fast... by the time the monitor kicks on i have like 1.5 seconds to try and see what it says before it flips to the grub screen.
[01:41] <morten_> jrib, w32codecs package seems to be missing?
[01:41] <sanityx> error code 0x70 sense key: 02 something something
[01:42] <JerKB> and if the pause key would work...... hahahaha
[01:42] <Wilburt> hey im trying to install drake atm, im fine up until i get to partitoning it with the installer, i have a 160gig hd with 66gigs free, should i try to manually edit partition table? any help would be greatly appreciated :)
[01:42] <morten_> sudo apt-get install libdvdcss w32codecs
[01:42] <jrib> morten_: well for amd64 you can't use w32codecs.  You need to setup a chroot if you want them, let me see if I get you a guide
[01:42] <patrickj> dang french channel
[01:42] <patrickj> its all peresian french :\
[01:42] <morten_> jrib, ok .. so what do I need?  w64codecs?
[01:42] <ic56> aXaNaXa: try modifying your /etc/syslog.conf to log everything to a single file.  Then figure out which entries came from your firewall.  Then change your syslog.conf back and add an entry that matches the facility to which your Netgear firewall sends its messages.  There is no way AFAIK to match expressions in syslog.
[01:42] <jrib> morten_: heh yeah but those don't exist
[01:42] <sysrpl> okay, so where should i start in setting up the proper accelleration since this is an intel chipset and all the guides are ATI or NVIDIA?
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> vem0m: That is fine, you are entitled to your opinion, even if it is the minority opinion
[01:43] <morten_> jrib, darn
[01:43] <bernouli> how can i start GNOME CPUFreq Applet?
[01:43] <morten_> jrib, I heard about linux32 something?
[01:43] <patrickj> alright
[01:43] <sg1_> sorry but that page doesnt help me about sudo :S, I was given the exact command on here before, sudo passwd root doesnt bring up  new unix passwd
[01:43] <lostinc> CAn anyone tell me what is Dropline Gnome? and is it all that different?
[01:43] <tsume> bernouli: right click on the a bar, add to panel
[01:43] <patrickj> how can I change my gnome menu icon?
[01:43] <Kibou> remember that glxgears is not a benchmark... the fps don't really mean anything
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> back in a few, trying to install a game
[01:44] <bernouli> tsume, what should i add to panel?
[01:44] <JerKB> heh... nothing useful from google.
[01:44] <Healot> !info linux32
[01:44] <ubotu> linux32: Wrapper to set the execution domain. In repository main, is extra. Version 1-3 (dapper), package size 5 kB, installed size 56 kB
[01:44] <guest> hello channel is anyoine else having trouble using the web forum ... ie. user name or password  not being accepted ?
[01:45] <morten_> guest : Most likely.
[01:45] <tsume> bernouli: hmm. I'm guessing its "CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor" *wink*
[01:45] <jrib> morten_: maybe, I don't know much about it.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5 recommends http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/admin/dchroot
[01:45] <Kibou> lostinc: dropline gnome is for slackware only.. since slackware "officially" only supports kde
[01:45] <guest> lol
[01:45] <lostinc> I C thank you.
[01:45] <Wilburt> anyone here familiar with preparing partition in drake setup? having problems
[01:45] <sg1_>  sorry but that page doesnt help me about sudo :S, I was given the exact command on here before, sudo passwd root doesnt bring up  new unix passwd
[01:45] <bernouli> tsume, i cant find the app under Applications
[01:46] <tsume> *sigh*
[01:46] <Kilopopo> hi how do i resize my terminal in framebuffer?????????????????
[01:46] <tsume> bernouli: I recommend rereading what I said then. :)
[01:46] <bernouli> tsume, ahh, i found it,thanks
[01:46] <tsume> bernouli: :)
[01:46] <kleber> hello folks, I'm trying to install XGL but I have gotten an error
[01:46] <Kilopopo> hi how do i resize my terminal in framebuffer?????????????????
[01:46] <slavezero> does anyone here have experience setting up wifi in ubuntu
[01:46] <Warbo> K^Holtz: Erm, are you sure you installed the right Java packages?
[01:46] <drgalaxy> what is the easiest way to reconfigure my 6.06 server to use DHCP?
[01:46] <kleber> anybody using NVidia card can help me ?
[01:47] <morten_> jrib, I have a HD with my old system.  (32 bit)  I guess I could set  that up as chroot?
[01:47] <tsume> Kilopopo: certainly not wasting everyones time and bw asking the same question over and over :)
[01:47] <Warbo> kleber: You have the non-free driver?
[01:47] <jrib> morten_: yeah that sounds feasible
[01:47] <bernouli> tsume, hmm, it is only monitoring? actually i am looking for a gui app, which can control the cpufreq
[01:47] <kleber> Warbo: yes
[01:47] <Kilopopo> tsume, do you know
[01:47] <morten_> jrib, thanks
[01:47] <kleber> Warbo: yes, it's running fine
[01:47] <Warbo> kleber: What is the problem then
[01:47] <tsume> bernouli: yeah, I noticed when I started using it too..
[01:48] <bernouli> tsume, do you use any app, which can controll your cpufreq?
[01:48] <K^Holtz> Warbo: i installed java from these instructions: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[01:48] <tsume> bernouli: the KDE monitor has one, not sure why GNOME doesn't.
[01:48] <Wilburt> can i manually edit partition table from within drake installation without too much hassle? :\
[01:48] <kleber> Warbo: the XGL can't start, there 's an error like: cannot read /usr/X11/rgb or something like that... this directory doesn't exist... can you show me your Xgl command to start it ?
[01:49] <bernouli> tsume, do you know any 3rd party app?
[01:49] <Knome> !xgl > kleber
[01:49] <lostinc> Can anyone tell me if there is a way to install Dapper without all the extra apps?
[01:49] <tsume> bernouli: hmm, well there is... one second. Trying to remember
[01:49] <judah> lostinc: define "all the extra apps"
[01:50] <mgcross> hi all...can anyone tell me why the ubuntu webforum (English) is poping up a user/pass dialog...cant get in!
[01:50] <judah> because that really doesn't compute.
[01:50] <lostinc> OO
[01:50] <roostishaw> how do i get rid of icons for disks on my desktop?
[01:50] <Healot> lostinc: if you're thinking of installing packages from the main section of the repos only
[01:50] <vem0m> roostishaw: kde?
[01:50] <Mosi> Does anyone here have experience with iPods in ubuntu?
[01:50] <lostinc> I just feel that Dapper takes to much HD space for what I am using it on.
[01:51] <roostishaw> gnome
[01:51] <ubuntugeek> mgcross: We are performing some upgrades atm
[01:51] <jrib> !icons > roostishaw
[01:51] <roostishaw> vem0m, gnome
[01:51] <drgalaxy> how do I reconfigure networking on ubuntu server?
[01:51] <vem0m> roostishaw: well i dunno bout gnome but in kde u rightclick and tell it move to trash....
[01:51] <tsume> bernouli: you want to look at powernowd
[01:51] <nekostar> so
[01:51] <garenasix> what happened to the english ubuntu forum ??? is it down i cant get in to it
[01:51] <mgcross> roostishaw: K, thanks...was a little worried :-)
[01:51] <tsume> bernouli: install it if its no installed already
[01:51] <kleber> let's try... thanks guys...
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> How do I find my "machine_name" and my "system_name"
[01:51] <nekostar> anyone have experience with superaudio cds and ubuntu ?
[01:52] <bernouli> tsume, if i install powernowd, ubuntu will remove cpufreqd right?
[01:52] <Healot> drgalaxy: with "ifconfig" and /etc/network/interfaces file
[01:52] <sg1_>  sorry but that page doesnt help me about sudo :S, I was given the exact command on here before, sudo passwd root doesnt bring up  new unix passwd
[01:52] <technel> I have a USB thumb drive. How would I get Ubuntu to format it?
[01:52] <roostishaw> mgcross, lol
[01:52] <bernouli> do you think powernowd is better than cpufreqd?
[01:52] <tsume> bernouli: I dont' think do..
[01:52] <tsume> *soo
[01:52] <nekostar> omfg
[01:52] <roostishaw> jrib, ...i want them off my desktop...
[01:52] <nekostar> whats wrong with ubuntuforums.org ???????????
[01:52] <wolfknght> I'm trying to find the command MAKE, it is not anywhere on my system, any ideas?
[01:52] <Mosi> technel: i can walk you through a manual format if you like
[01:53] <jrib> roostishaw: yes, did you uncheck volumes_visible?
[01:53] <wolfknght> and why can I not get into ubuntuforums?
[01:53] <tsume> nekostar: pwned :)
[01:53] <bernouli> tsume, strange, i try manually change the freq by doing  cpufreq-selector -f 1866000, but gnome-applets still shows 800mhz
[01:53] <technel> Mosi, That'd be great
[01:53] <garenasix> i cant get into ubuntuforum eather
[01:53] <morten_> I guess ubuntu isn't really ready for 64 bit yet?
[01:53] <jrib> sg1_: the wiki page on RootSudo explains how to use a traditional root account if you wish
[01:53] <tsume> bernouli: look at the proc entry for your CPU
[01:53] <Mosi> technel: what FS do you want to use?
[01:54] <technel> Mosi, Probably FAT32, I will be using the thumb drive on Windows too
[01:54] <ubuntugeek> PUBLIC NOTICE: WE ARE DOING UPGRADES TO THE FORUMS. THEY WILL BE BACK SHORTLY :)
[01:54] <jrib> sg1_: is that what you are trying to do?
[01:54] <bernouli> tsume, /proc/cpuinfo shows always cpu MHz         : 1862.270
[01:54] <garenasix> ooh ok thanks ubuntu geek :)
[01:54] <ubuntugeek> :)
[01:54] <tsume> bernouli: check the governor entry
[01:54] <Mosi> technel: VFAT is the industry standard for UFDs i believe, but i suppose there's no reason you couldn't use  FAT32
[01:54] <tsume> ubuntugeek: damn the upgrades :)
[01:54] <nekostar> tsume, yeah upgrades ok thats fine
[01:54] <Paladine> has the ubuntu forums just died?
[01:54] <nekostar> how about superaudio cd's anyone know about that ?
[01:55] <technel> Mosi, vFAT would be fine too, sure
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> How do I find my "machine_name" and my "system_name"
[01:55] <Mosi> technel: got anything on there you want to save?
[01:55] <nekostar> Paladine, i refer to my above statement
[01:55] <nekostar> :D
[01:55] <bernouli> tsume, userspace powersave ondemand conservative performance
[01:55] <ubuntugeek> tsume: :)
[01:55] <Paladine> it just logged me out and is not accepting my user/pass
[01:55] <sg1_> yes jrib
[01:55] <bernouli> is it allright?
[01:55] <sg1_> im sure typing sudo passwd worked before
[01:55] <technel> Mosi, Nope. Nautilus shows nothing but the disk manager shows that there are like 200 mb of files, but I don't need any of it
[01:55] <tsume> ubuntugeek: why couldn't they do it when everyone is sleeping anyway? ;)
[01:55] <roostishaw> what program do people use to make a dock like this one on the bottom: http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_type=1&screen_id=377574459448ca4458f897&m=screen
[01:55] <tsume> bernouli: look at the governor entry which sets the CPU freq ;)
[01:56] <Snow_Shelter> can someone please explain to my why vobcopy in Ubuntu is so slow compared to vobcopy in Mandrake?
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> tsume: Half the planet is asleep right now
[01:56] <Snow_Shelter> is this a library thing?
[01:56] <ubuntugeek> tsume: Well, this morning we upgraded to dapper.. so tonight was the forum software
[01:56] <bernouli> tsume, i have only that linein the governor
[01:56] <tsume> Jack_Sparrow: I mean the ones who use ubuntu ;)
[01:56] <jrib> sg1_: sudo password root, does work if that's what you want to do.  What does it do now when you try?
[01:56] <pvd2006> Java is not loading properly in mozilla. I installed sun java bin from respositories and I show this as my default java /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[01:56] <tsume> ubuntugeek: oh :/
[01:56] <Mosi> technel: probably just deleted objects. do you know what device file it shows up as?
[01:56] <pvd2006> do I need to install a plugin for mozilla or something?
[01:56] <tsume> roostishaw: install XFCE
[01:56] <technel> Mosi, Sorry, device file? like /media/usbdisk?
[01:56] <Snow_Shelter> roostishaw: dude, that's a special applet fro gnome or something
[01:57] <morten_> I do understand this correctly ... ubuntu 64bit is unable to play DVD's with encryption - even with multiverse enabled, unless you set up a chroot or do something else extraordinary?
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> tsume: DO you really think only people in the US are using Ubuntu?
[01:57] <tsume> Jack_Sparrow: many :)
[01:57] <vilkus> hi, could somebody tell me what should i use to play wow plz???
[01:57] <Snow_Shelter> morten_: I can play encripted DVDs on 64bit
[01:57] <morten_> Snow_Shelter, : How??
[01:57] <judah> !restricted
[01:57] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:57] <Snow_Shelter> morten_: I just can't freaking rip them cause for some reason Ubuntu takes it's sweet freaking time to rip
[01:57] <Healot> compile your own libdvdcss2
[01:58] <Mosi> technel:, no the /dev file. open a terminal and type 'mount'. look for the entry that says "/dev/???X on /media/usbdisk (etc..."
[01:58] <Snow_Shelter> morten_: are you trying to use totem?
[01:58] <SMG|CH_> lol whys ubuntuforums.org asking for a login now lol
[01:58] <morten_> Snow_Shelter, totem, gstreamer, mplayer, xine .. you name it ..
[01:58] <wolfknght> I'm trying to find the command MAKE, it is not anywhere on my system, any ideas?
[01:58] <technel> Mosi, /dev/sdb1 on /media/usbdisk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[01:58] <Healot> !build-essential > wolfknght
[01:59] <morten_> wolfknght, apt-cache search make .. or search for make in synaptic.
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Snow_Shelter: Programmers rule of thumb... Make it work... Then make it fast...
[01:59] <SMG|CH_> lol
[01:59] <SMG|CH_> like healot said
[01:59] <SMG|CH_> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:59] <Snow_Shelter> Jack_Sparrow: yea, except that it already works fast on Mandriva, so what's Ubuntu issue, gotta make 50, 000 cups of coffee first?
[01:59] <Snow_Shelter> morten_: I can play encripted DVDs in xine... I don't know what your issue is
[02:00] <morten_> Snow_Shelter, are you 64bit ?
[02:00] <Snow_Shelter> this is unacceptable!
[02:00] <wolfknght> morten: already tried. apt cache... i'll look into synaptic, thank you
[02:00] <Snow_Shelter> morten_: last time I checked my AMD64 3200+ was 64bit.
[02:00] <Healot> morten_: you can easily compile libdvdcss2 from source
[02:00] <morten_> Snow_Shelter, yeah .. but you can run 32bit on a 64bit system, if you like. ...
[02:01] <Snow_Shelter> Healot: if it's _that_ easy, then why doesn't whoever manages multiverse do it?
[02:01] <morten_> Healot, thanks
[02:01] <morten_> Healot, yeah .. no backport?
[02:01] <Snow_Shelter> morten_: I run 64bit Ubuntu, I have a 32bit chroot for every freaking 32bit app, it's #@$%ing annoying
[02:01] <sg1_> sorry but can someone help me access su in terminal so i can use apt-get?
[02:01] <morten_> Snow_Shelter, Thats what I feared ..
[02:01] <vem0m> i hate 64 bit crap
[02:01] <Healot> libdvdcss2 is illegal actually, there isn't any officially, a pre packaged
[02:01] <morten_> Snow_Shelter, I consider going 32bit for now ...
[02:02] <Healot> !info libdvdcss2
[02:02] <ubotu> Package libdvdcss2 does not exist in dapper
[02:02] <vem0m> highly unsupported and unuseable at current time
[02:02] <Healot> see :)
[02:02] <Fluxboxen-Null> sg1_: Sudo apt-get
[02:02] <vem0m> !mp3
[02:02] <morten_> Healot, Illegal?   Where and why?  (short version)
[02:02] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:02] <vem0m> go there
[02:02] <Snow_Shelter> Healot: oh whoop de doo, look at this: ftp://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/plf/mandriva/non-free/cooker/x86_64
[02:02] <vem0m> top link
[02:02] <Snow_Shelter> Healot: a whole list of "illegal" packages
[02:02] <Healot> Snow_Shelter: for ubuntu
[02:02] <Snow_Shelter> morten_: cause the stupid RIAS and MPAA says it's illegal...
 it syas my password is wrong, im trying to set it
[02:03] <tredlig> ubuntu is a gnome desktop right?
[02:03] <wolfknght> MAKE does not exist in apt-cache or in synaptic...any other ideas?  I have a makeg command, but it calls MAKE..
[02:03] <Snow_Shelter> Healot: great, so I'm stuck with using alien till Ubuntu people figure out that the MPAA and RIAA spew shit?
[02:03] <Healot> !info build-essential
[02:03] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[02:03] <Healot> Snow_Shelter: why alien, while it is easy to package your own?
[02:03] -[OFTC] NyTF7W:#ubuntu- FUCK FREENODE
[02:03] -[OFTC] ybG:#ubuntu- FUCK FREENODE
[02:03] -[OFTC] rhs4:#ubuntu- FUCK FREENODE
[02:03] -[OFTC] b8wc:#ubuntu- FUCK FREENODE
[02:03] -[OFTC] RQuqD:#ubuntu- FUCK FREENODE
[02:03] -[OFTC] BvN:#ubuntu- FUCK FREENODE
[02:03] -[OFTC] 8Apd:#ubuntu- FUCK FREENODE
[02:03] -[OFTC] 2iJ:#ubuntu- FUCK FREENODE
[02:03] -[OFTC] uYfns:#ubuntu- FUCK FREENODE
[02:03] <LoRez> Warning: `[OFTC] BvN,[OFTC] NyTF7W,[OFTC] RQuqD,[OFTC] b8wc,[OFTC] rhs4,[OFTC] ybG' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[02:03] -[OFTC] yuJcwf:#ubuntu- FUCK FREENODE
[02:03] -[OFTC] ybG:#ubuntu- FUCK FREENODE
[02:03] -[OFTC] uYfns:#ubuntu- FUCK FREENODE
[02:03] -[OFTC] yuaAva:#ubuntu- FUCK FREENODE
[02:03] -[OFTC] yuJcwf:#ubuntu- FUCK FREENODE
[02:03] -[OFTC] 8Apd:#ubuntu- FUCK FREENODE
[02:03] <Snow_Shelter> wow
[02:03] <Healot> hehe
[02:03] <Snow_Shelter> wtf!
[02:03] <Healot> wt*?
[02:03] -[OFTC] xl9Gsa:#ubuntu- FUCK FREENODE
[02:03] -[OFTC] xktS:#ubuntu- FUCK FREENODE
[02:04] <wolfknght> neat
[02:04] <vem0m> HOLY
[02:04] -[OFTC] dd0bB:#ubuntu- FUCK FREENODE
[02:04] -[OFTC] 6qkP:#ubuntu- FUCK FREENODE
[02:04] -[OFTC] zmK:#ubuntu- FUCK FREENODE
[02:04] <ragoo> :(
[02:04] <morten_> Snow_Shelter, Oh .. so its only illegal in the US?
[02:04] <Snow_Shelter> morten_: I don't know, and I don't give a flying #$%^...
[02:04] <Fluxboxen-Null> Anyone know whats happened to ubuntuforums.org?
[02:04] <Healot> morten_: in U.S.A, Canada and some European countries
[02:04] <zambadoo> hi guys
[02:04] <Snow_Shelter> Healot: woot, canada!
[02:04] <vem0m> u can use it they say its ileagal but only cuz they cracked to orig protection to make the driver
[02:05] <zambadoo> having problems adding a device to md0, mdadm complains device is busy. ideas?
[02:05] <Nogimics> ffs whats with these dicks sending notices
[02:05] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow, the one i was looking for :) could u pass me your mounting script again please ?
[02:05] <Healot> but pot is legal for consumption in the Netherland :)
[02:05] <Snow_Shelter> some university student learned how to work a bot net, and hates freenode, Hooray!
[02:05] <morten_> Healot, which brings us back to why there are no packages. :-)
[02:05] <Snow_Shelter> Healot: and Canada... oh wait
[02:05] <Healot> mortal: yes...
[02:05] <netmatrix> Anybody know if there is something wrong with the forums?
[02:05] <kleber> Warbo: I got the error message: "couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/share/X11/rgb'
[02:05] <kleber> Warbo: any tip ?
[02:05] <morten_> Healot, I don't live in Canada, you see. :)
[02:05] <Snow_Shelter> morten_: yea, why don't you do what the PLF is doing?
[02:05] <Snow_Shelter> Healot: yea, why don't you do what the PLF is doing?
[02:05] <zambadoo> oh gees, politics
[02:05] <Healot> PLF?
[02:05] <Snow_Shelter> morten_: whoops. sorry, wrong person
[02:05] <morten_> Snow_Shelter, plf?
[02:06] <Snow_Shelter> Healot: People's liberation front
[02:06] <Snow_Shelter> they're in france
[02:06] <wolfknght> Any ideas on where I can find the MAKE command outside of my system? Synaptic doesn't have it, and it is not listed in apt-cache
[02:06] <Snow_Shelter> they package all this stuff for us chummy mandrake people to use
[02:06] <netmatrix> Anybody know if there is something wrong with the forums?
[02:06] <morten_> Snow_Shelter, nice
[02:06] <Snow_Shelter> and least time I checked, it wasn't illegal to copy a DVD to your hard drive
[02:06] <Fluxboxen-Null> Peoples liberation front, Sounds like a fucking monty python get together
[02:06] <gord> please keep any offtopic stuff to #ubuntu-offtopic. this is generally a support channel only
[02:06] <Healot> wolfknghtL: install "build-essential" package
[02:06] <nekostar> how about superaudio cd's anyone know about that ?
[02:06] <Snow_Shelter> Fluxboxen-Null: lol, it isn't though
[02:06] <sg1_> hello, how do i enable encryption ssl on a unix box for remote desktop? i have installed open ssh but how do i configure remote desktop to use ssl?
[02:06] <morten_> ok
[02:06] <Healot> GOD shall give you "make" >> wolfknght
[02:07] <wolfknght> healot: thank you
[02:07] <Snow_Shelter> lol
[02:07] <kleber> friends, when I try to run XGL I get the error message: "couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/share/X11/rgb', any tip ? I'm running Dapper + NVidia
[02:07] <morten_> What options do I have for 64bit?
[02:07] <wolfknght> hehehe
[02:07] <morten_> Is Debian any better?
[02:07] <Kilopopo> hey guys it seems that gedit crashes my system
[02:07] <Kilopopo> can someone help
[02:07] <^jacob^> is it worth upgrading to Dapper from Breezy?
[02:07] <lmml> the screensavers crash my system all the time
[02:07] <Healot> morten_: compile your own libdvdcss, package it, bam, you can play hollywood DVD
[02:07] <Fluxboxen-Null> Ubuntu is a flavour of debian i do belive, I've used both and ubuntu is alot lot easier
[02:07] <K^Holtz> There are a lot of differnet Java options in synaptec.. which ones do i need in order to run Frostwire?
[02:07] <gnomefreak> ^jacob^: eh its really up to you
[02:07] <Warbo> kleber: I don't know. When I run XGL I make /usr/bin/X a link to /usr/bin/Xgl and run it that way
[02:07] <^jacob^> Fluxboxen-Null: its based on Debian
[02:07] <sg1_> hello, how do i enable encryption ssl on a unix box for remote desktop? i have installed open ssh but how do i configure remote desktop to use ssl?
[02:08] <^jacob^> gnomefreak: any security reasons?
[02:08] <gnomefreak> K^Holtz: sun-java5-jre
[02:08] <^jacob^> gnomefreak: is breezy as secure as dapper?
[02:08] <kleber> Warbo: ok, thanks
[02:08] <zambadoo> mdadm help anyone?
[02:08] <SonicChao> ^jacob^: with new versions, things improve, so dapper would be more secore.
[02:08] <zambadoo> why does it think my hdb3 is busy?
[02:08] <gnomefreak> ^jacob^: im sure ther eare some but its not that big a deal on linux (if your running normal user)
[02:08] <Healot> http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/ >> precompiled for 32bit Debian/Ubuntu
[02:08] <K^Holtz> gnomefreak: it says i have that one installed but frostwire still gets an error when i try to load it
[02:09] <sysrpl> i just installed the pixel image editor from a deb package using sudi dpkg - pixeldemo_1.0.524-1_i386.deb .... where did it install pixeldemo to so that i can run it?
[02:09] <tonyr> hello
[02:09] <Snow_Shelter> morten_: http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:hRZOoZU6Z0UJ:ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/+libdvdcss2&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=1
[02:09] <Healot> http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/libdvdcss/1.2.8/ >> grab the source here, morten_
[02:09] <gnomefreak> K^Holtz: did you run sudo update-alternatives --config java?
[02:09] <tonyr> Does anybodu know what's up with the new login window at the forums?
[02:09] <Healot> !info dh_make
[02:09] <^jacob^> gnomefreak: normal user, but I use ubuntu and firefox for a lot of banking etc!  safe?
[02:09] <ubotu> Package dh_make does not exist in dapper
[02:10] <Healot> !info checkinstall
[02:10] <ubotu> checkinstall: installation tracker. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.5.3-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 132 kB
[02:10] <Snow_Shelter> morten_: actually, don't do that
[02:10] <tonyr> Doesn't accept my name and/or password.
[02:10] <NickGarvey> ^jacob^: mm.. is it https?
[02:10] <Snow_Shelter> morten_: there are no packages there for Dapper Drake (6.06)
[02:10] <morten_> btw
[02:10] <gnomefreak> ^jacob^: upgradde to be sure
[02:10] <fractalworld> If you do have such a file, could you please run "dpkg -S <path to file>" and tell me the owning package?
[02:10] <fractalworld> Asking again:  Would someone running 6.06 LTS please check whether they have a usb-related rule file in /etc/udev/rules.d?  I am having trouble with my USB configuration.  Thanks.
[02:10] <sg1_> hello, how do i enable encryption ssl on a unix box for remote desktop? i have installed open ssh but how do i configure remote desktop to use ssl?
[02:10] <morten_> Why don't I simply go Ubuntu 32 bit?
[02:10] <K^Holtz> gnomefreak: i just ran it, which option do i choose? there are 3
[02:10] <K^Holtz> gnomefreak: the one with jre in it?
[02:11] <morten_> Healot, next problem will be win32 codecs.  Then I need chroot anyhow.
[02:11] <^jacob^> gnomefreak: ok!  ty
[02:11] <gnomefreak> K^Holtz: the one that says java 1.5
[02:11] <morten_> Healot, or for flash
[02:11] <^jacob^> NickGarvey: why?
[02:11] <anto9us> sg1_, way I do it is to ssh -C -X into a box and then run vncviewer from remote machine
[02:11] <Healot> morten_: then, you're not migrating form windows to linux :)
[02:11] <Healot> !flash
[02:11] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:11] <vizo> hey now!
[02:11] <K^Holtz> gnomefreak: thank you, its working now
[02:12] <vizo> newbie question
[02:12] <morten_> Healot, Nope .. I used to run debian.
[02:12] <NickGarvey> ^jacob^: because if its not https, then your account info is being sent plain text over the internet
[02:12] <SonicChao> vizo: Just ask......
[02:12] <Healot> morten_: still you need Windows-like features :)
[02:12] <^jacob^> NickaNicka: but i see a yellow icon
[02:12] <Warbo> K^Holtz: Sorry I wasn't here, I've getting Amarok going in #amarok :)
[02:12] <vizo> I updated to breezy  but my kernel never updated
[02:12] <gpm> hey, is there any way to get html backgrounds, like active desktop on windows? i'm using gnome, but i'd be willing to try another de/wm to do this. thanks in advance!
[02:12] <vizo> any ideas how to get that to update
[02:12] <^jacob^> vizo: upgraded to breezy?
[02:12] <Warbo> vizo: You need to "dist-upgrade"
[02:13] <K^Holtz> Warbo: its no problem, thanks a lot for your help also
[02:13] <yipe> you updated TO breezy?
[02:13] <SonicChao> vizo: There has been a new version since then
[02:13] <vizo> know I only have acommand line
[02:13] <SonicChao> vizo: 6.06 Dapper
[02:13] <vizo> yeah I know
[02:13] <morten_> Healot, a lot of the net is targeted towards ms-windows.  If I cannot watch vwm-files and stuff .. I'll limit my possiblities quite a bit.
[02:13] <Warbo> yipe: Warty>Hoary>Breezy>Dapper? It does include Breezy you know :)
[02:13] <vizo> but Iwas using the versasion I had
[02:13] <yipe> I know, I'm just wondering why he would be so behind
[02:13] <patrickj> how do I make apache and mysql go on startup?
[02:13] <vizo> so to learn I treid to upgrade
[02:14] <Warbo> yipe: In the hope of stability? Have you not looked at Sarge recently?
[02:14] <fats> hello
[02:14] <SonicChao> fats: Hi
[02:14] <vizo> I guess I could just start again
[02:14] <vizo> but...
[02:14] <PupUser-46e4ec> Dapper is great
[02:14] <spades> patrickj symlink the /etc/init.d script into /etc/rcS.d i think
[02:14] <SonicChao> PupUser-46e4ec: lol, stating the obvious ;)
[02:14] <jesse_> How can i change the grub loader to automatically load windows. I originally wanted to use a floppy to get in ubuntu so family didn't screw things up but now its there and i don't know how to remove it to achieve my orignial plan
[02:14] <^jacob^> vizo: never say "but" as it negates everything said before it :)
[02:14] <fats> some how i like this os better than xp
[02:15] <NickGarvey> fats: :)
[02:15] <^jacob^> fats: you fat?
[02:15] <PupUser-46e4ec> fats: u said it
[02:15] <SonicChao> fats: So do thousands of other people
[02:15] <vizo> heh
[02:15] <fats> no im not my brother calls me that lol
[02:15] <spades> jesse_ in /boot/grub/menu.lst there is an entry for default, change it to reflect windows?
[02:15] <SonicChao> fats: ;)
[02:15] <^jacob^> fats: why you called fats if you are not fat?
[02:16] <Warbo> jesse_: Set it as the top entry (maybe add a "savedefault" line or something). Add a short countdown and maybe make it hidden, so only you realise to press Esc within 2 seconds or something
[02:16] <fats> so does any one know how to download aim?
[02:16] <NickGarvey> !aim
[02:16] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[02:16] <PupUser-46e4ec> anybody have trouble networking with windos machines ?
[02:16] <NickGarvey> PupUser-46e4ec: have you used samba?
[02:16] <PupUser-46e4ec> yeah
[02:16] <SonicChao> fats: I use Kopete ;)
[02:16] <jesse_> warbo how would i go along in doing that?
[02:16] <SonicChao> fats: It even works for GNOME
[02:16] <sg1_> anto9us ssh into the machine then run vncviewer locally on that machine? whats the command to ssh into it :S
[02:16] <richard24> forums giving anyone else trouble?
[02:16] <NickGarvey> fats: I like gaim, I would suggest that
[02:16] <fats> ok how do i get it?
[02:17] <NickGarvey> SonicChao: why do you like it better than gaim?
[02:17] <gpm> SonicChao: why would you use kopete in gnome?
[02:17] <sg1_> why is freenode DOS'ing my router?
[02:17] <NickGarvey> fats: its already there!
[02:17] <fats> really?
[02:17] <NickGarvey> fats: under one of your menus uptop, not sure which one ;)
[02:17] <Warbo> jesse_: Open up the /boot/grib/menu.lst file as super user ("gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst")
[02:17] <patrickj> is it possible to use mod_rewrite on a localhost server without the use of domains ?
[02:17] <anto9us> sg1_, ssh -C -X <ip or address>
[02:17] <NickGarvey> fats: applications > internet > instant messaging > gaim I think
[02:17] <SonicChao> NickGarvey: GAim gave me hell trying to connect, it randomly crashed
[02:17] <gpm> gaim is in the internet menu by default
[02:17] <gpm> yeah
[02:17] <NickGarvey> SonicChao: ah, yeah I have had gaim crash a few times, but I like it better than kopete
[02:17] <gpm> weird
[02:17] <fats> ha it is thanks
[02:18] <anto9us> sg1_, the -C enables compression and the -X enables forwarding of X apps
[02:18] <NickGarvey> SonicChao: for example, it doesn't show me people who are on mobile devices, so I might waste their minutes messaging them
[02:18] <Warbo> SonicChao: Xchat crashed my X server every time, so I uninstalled it
[02:18] <psx1337> This is the FIRST linux distro I've gotten to install on my clamshell iBook G3
[02:18] <psx1337> :P
[02:18] <SonicChao> gpm: you can use it in Gnome, and I prefer it, because I use KDE sometimes too
[02:18] <jsgotangco> psx1337: congratulations
[02:18] <NickGarvey> psx1337: nice :)
[02:18] <jesse_> warbo, done
[02:18] <Warbo> jesse_: Hang on, I will open mine to get the right syntax
[02:18] <SonicChao> NickGarvey: I don't know anyone on mobile devices, I don't chat with a lot of people, it's just for compatibilty.
[02:18] <jesse_> warbo, ok thanks
[02:18] <bruenig> are the ubuntu forums down?
[02:18] <NickGarvey> SonicChao: ah, okie
[02:19] <NickGarvey> bruenig: thats what I have heard
[02:19] <SonicChao> bruenig: Yes, they were when i last checked
[02:19] <sg1_> guys can anyone tell me how to encrypted a remote desktop connection over the internet using VNC built into ubuntu?
[02:19] <bruenig> ok
[02:19] <Sixtyfourbit> I go to bed
[02:19] <SonicChao> NickGarvey: I use KDE and GNOME....I just prefer Kopete for some reason....
[02:19] <Sixtyfourbit> thanks for the help
[02:19] <Sixtyfourbit> I will consider switching to 32bit tomorrow.
[02:19] <NickGarvey> SonicChao: yeah, I would use kopete if it wasn't for the mobile thing
[02:19] <Sixtyfourbit> or another distro.
[02:20] <Warbo> jesse_: OK, if you want nobody else to mess with it you can do the draconian approach of passwording GRUB, or do the easier way of just hiding it and giving it a short countdown
[02:20] <SonicChao> NickGarvey: I would use gAIM if it wasn't for the crashing thing. ;)
[02:20] <NickGarvey> SonicChao: yeah, I used beta for a day or two.. it crashed all the flipping time
[02:20] <jesse_> Warbo, Hiding will probably be best
[02:20] <Sagotis> sup akk what happened to the fourms?
[02:20] <Zonum> anyone know if the ubuntu forums having authentication issues presently?
[02:20] <tvgm2__> anybody having problems upgrading amarok 1.3 to 1.4.1?
[02:21] <SonicChao> Zonum: the forums are down at the moment
[02:21] <jrib> sg1_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH
[02:21] <Sagotis> Blah
[02:21] <sg1_> thanks jrib
[02:21] <Warbo> jesse_: OK. Change the "timeout 10" to something smaller, like 2 or 3, then remove the "#" from "#hiddenmenu"
[02:21] <Zonum> SonicChao, ah, thank you for the information!  No wonder I couldn't get on ;-)
[02:21] <SonicChao> Zonum: No problem
[02:21] <roogle> what's up guys
[02:22] <jesse_> warbo, done
[02:22] <SonicChao> jrib: I installed kde-desktop today, without a problem....and used you're command without any trouble :)
[02:22] <Warbo> AA! I have a Windows XP entry in my menu.lst that I didn't know was there!
[02:22] <jesse_> lol
[02:22] <jrib> SonicChao: ah good to know
[02:22] <Commander-Crowe> I'm looking for libdvdcss2 for ubuntu
[02:22] <Commander-Crowe> but i want to compile it myself
[02:22] <jrib> !dvd > Commander-Crowe
[02:22] <roogle> the forums won't be back on until when?
[02:22] <Sagotis> man i wish the forums were up
[02:22] <Warbo> jesse_: OK, now to access the menu you will need to press Esc at boot within the timeout or it will boot the default OS. Now to change the default to Windows
[02:22] <NickGarvey> roogle: until they fix it
[02:23] <jrib> roogle: they are doing upgrades, you might try #ubuntuforums
[02:23] <SonicChao> roogle: There is no way to say...maybe ask the admins?
[02:23] <NickGarvey> roogle: ;)
[02:23] <roogle> ^_^ i heard that
[02:23] <roogle> i know. i know.
[02:23] <SonicChao> NickGarvey: I didn't know they had an IRC channel....lol
[02:23] <roogle> just starting to figured this out and my knowledge base is gone
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> How do I find my "machine_name" and my "system_name"
[02:23] <psx1337> My poptarts are burning! .. this is not linux related
[02:23] <jesse_> warbo, ok to change it i just change the others from hd0,0 < to 1 then 2 and 3?
[02:23] <tvgm2__> is there a way to get grub to scan for other operating systems and show them without going into a restore cd?
[02:23] <NickGarvey> roogle: try google, they cache all the webpages, so you might be able to still read some of it
[02:24] <Pit> !dvd > Pit
[02:24] <Warbo> jesse_: Since Ubuntu adds new kernels to the top, you should probably keep the "default 0" line as it is, and move the Windows entry above the Ubuntu ones (doesn't really matter where, but directly above the "automagic" bit would be sensible)
[02:24] <roogle> thx.  that helped a lot.
[02:24] <spades> Jack_Sparrow if youre referring to the hostname, uname -a will show it
[02:24] <vem0m> hmmm anyone know of a decent Bittorrent client i hate azureus because of its memory usage?
[02:24] <NickGarvey> vem0m: bittornado
[02:24] <NickGarvey> !info bittornado
[02:24] <ubotu> bittornado: bittorrent client with enhanced curses interface. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.3.13-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 151 kB, installed size 848 kB
[02:25] <vem0m> NickGarvey: tried it i don't like the multiple windows and it needs to be able to use IP filtering
[02:25] <NickGarvey> vem0m: ktorrent?
[02:25] <Warbo> jesse_: The "(hd0,0)" stuff is to do with the partitions. Don;t change that or you may screw up the bot entry. You can just select then drag the entry for Windows from below the Ubuntus to above, then it will be booted within your timeout with GRUB mostly hidden
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> spades, sauerbratten script was asking for those two specifically.
[02:26] <NickGarvey> I think someone should make a script for grub...
[02:26] <NickGarvey> where it just detects it all and spits out a menu.lst
[02:26] <Teqonix> Ack, Ubuntu thinks that my monitor is longer than it really is. I'm in the console, too. Is there a utility or command that I can use to change video modes in the shell? O_o
[02:26] <spades> Jack_Sparrow got a link to it so i can check it out and try and see what its asking for specifically?
[02:26] <vem0m> NickGarvey: giving it another go thing is tho it had problems with one of my trackers i use before i just got the latest version so i dunno i am used to windows and lots of choices any others?
[02:26] <tvgm2__> i agree nick
[02:26] <Taim> So, seeing as companies keep changing chipsets on wireless cards, does anybody have a good recommendation for a PCI wireless card with good Linux support?
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> SUpergrub is a script to rebuild grub menus, loos for all kinds of drives and partitions
[02:26] <Taim> Currently that is.
[02:27] <jesse_> Warbo, ok ill just paste it on top of title for ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-23-386
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> spades sure
[02:27] <Warbo> NickGarvey: This is just to boot Windows by default after a hidden timeout
[02:27] <NickGarvey> vem0m: have you sude ktorrent?
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> one sec
[02:27] <Warbo> jesse_: Do it just above the "## END DEFAULT OTIONS" bit
[02:27] <vem0m> NickGarvey:  sude? i am importing filters now ummm
[02:28] <jesse_> warbo, ok
[02:28] <NickGarvey> sude?
[02:28] <tvgm2__> jack: do you have a link for supergrub?
[02:28] <sg1_> hello i have connected to my linux machine with ssh using putty on windows, but now how do i open vncviewer on that machine? thanks
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> spades click on notes for the download http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=102911&package_id=110363&release_id=423974
[02:28] <NickGarvey> sg1_: is the vnc server running on the linux machine or the windows machine?
[02:28] <vem0m> NickGarvey:  u said [19:27]  <NickGarvey> vem0m: have you sude ktorrent?
[02:28] <sg1_> im running remote desktop in preferences on the ubuntu machine and cponnecting all locally artm
[02:29] <NickGarvey> vem0m: used* typo
[02:29] <jesse_> warbo, well ill save and reboot and hopefully i will return with thanks.
[02:29] <SlyFly> How do I return Ubuntu to its previous state when it wasn't able to play any proprietary codecs?
[02:29] <billgates> hi everyone jsut wanted to let you know that ubuntu rocks
[02:29] <sg1_> but i plan to connect over the internet to another loinux machine using SSH, hence the need for encryption
[02:29] <winner> hey guys
[02:29] <sg1_> for security
[02:29] <winner> im trying to install Ubuntu
[02:29] <winner> and im using the partition editor
[02:29] <vem0m> NickGarvey:  i said i tried it but it failed with one of my trackers :( i am going to give it another go now tho i got the latest
[02:29] <NickGarvey> sg1_: ah, over my head, I tried that once
[02:29] <SonicChao> !enter
[02:29] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> spades system name I think is linux or Ubuntu and I am running an i386 kernel
[02:29] <SlyFly>  How do I return Ubuntu to its previous state when it wasn't able to play any proprietary codecs?
[02:29] <NickGarvey> SonicChao: who was that directed at?
[02:30] <NickGarvey> SlyFly: um.. uninstall them?/reinstall ubuntu
[02:30] <tjb891> ok, when i start synaptic package manage  it loads forever with a menu and loading bar, i think it is checking all the repositories because before i added all the ubuntu repositories it didn't do it, is there a way for it only to update the repositors on command instead of aautomatically if this is the problem
[02:30] <Luke> are the forums down?
[02:30] <SonicChao> NickGarvey: directed at winner, I thought more enters were to come
[02:30] <SonicChao> I was wrong tho
[02:30] <SonicChao> Luke: Yes they are.
[02:30] <SlyFly> I already tried uninstalling all proprietary codecs...I am still able to play them.  Reinstalling Ubuntu is not an option.
[02:30] <winner> sorry ubotu. so i used the installer, and at the partition editor i created a 1024MB swap and attempted to create a 23.79GB ext3 (/ partition). for some reason the 24GB space refuses to create, even when I choose other filesystems such as reiserfs.
[02:30] <Warbo> tjb891: It has to check what is on your machine. If you do "Reload" it will check online
[02:30] <roogle> dang i cant read the cached forum from google.  keeps asking for password
[02:30] <tjb891> so, it is not checking them when i start
[02:31] <billgates> I have a full install of ubuntu on a partition on my hard drive and it also has a sall 5 gig swap partition. i want to use vmware workstation/player to run this install (it has all my applications, preferences and so on) form within windows.. is there anyway to do this?
[02:31] <SlyFly> My objective is to NOT be able to play proprietary codecs....how do I do this?
[02:31] <vem0m> so no more ideas?
[02:31] <SonicChao> winner: Lol, dont say sorry to the bot, I was the one that told it to do that...
[02:31] <Warbo> tjb891: No
[02:31] <spades> Jack_Sparrow i guess, worse case is you rerun the script?
[02:31] <billgates> to make vmware workstation/player load from that partitin?
[02:31] <tjb891> so what is it doing
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks spades...
[02:31] <JackDeth_> Hi gang! Does anyone know the secret to getting into ubuntuforums.org? It keeps asking me for a username and password and I can find no place where it's listed or a place to register.... :-(
[02:31] <winner> lol SonicChao. well, do you have any ideas?
[02:31] <zambadoo> argh this mdadm crap pisses me off!
[02:31] <Warbo> Come on, having a nick like that you are asking for flames :)
[02:31] <sg1_> nickgarvey, ive tried freenx and realvnc with encryption but ive never establisghed a connection
[02:31] <SonicChao> winner: I don't think so...is it urgent?
[02:31] <crouton> howdy folks
[02:32] <SlyFly> The Ubuntu forums are down!  They can't be used.
[02:32] <billgates> <---- made the switch.. what are you waiting for?
[02:32] <SlyFly> Ubuntu forums are down...not available.
[02:32] <winner> not really SonicChao, but i'd like to get something up running soon though. this is my main computer.
[02:32] <crouton> :( no forums
[02:32] <JackDeth_> Well....that kinda bites. Guess it sucks to be me.  :-P
[02:32] <billgates> can anyone help me with vmware related queries?
[02:32] <tjb891> can anyone tell me how to get flash player plugin for firefox,
[02:32] <crouton> what's up bill?
[02:32] <NickGarvey> billgates: I can try, what do you need?
[02:32] <NickGarvey> !flash > tjb891
[02:32] <Blissex> !flash
[02:33] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:33] <billgates> I have a full install of ubuntu on a partition on my hard drive and it also has a sall 5 gig swap partition. i want to use vmware workstation/player to run this install (it has all my applications, preferences and so on) form within windows.. is there anyway to do this?
[02:33] <SonicChao> winner: I was going to say to search the forums, but they are down right now, if they aren't up by tomorrow, ask again...or try to get help now...
[02:33] <Warbo> billgates: I don;t know about VMWare sorry. I have done that (run actual partitions in a virtualiser) before, but on Qemu in Linux. It is impossible to do it on Qemu in Windows though, since Windows has such a terrible method of handling discs
[02:33] <winner> ah forums are down.
[02:33] <SMG|CH_> earlier today, I took the hard drives from my fried ubuntu box (866 p3) and put them in a 500 celeron, it worked fine and booted with some minor reconfig ... will similar things happen if I put it in a 2 ghz celeron?
[02:33] <chimsc> this is the test
[02:33] <igul222> ?
[02:33] <SonicChao> winner: When theyre up, they are a good resource. :)
[02:33] <crouton> billgates: Yes, you can point the VM setup routine at the partition.  Not recommended though.
[02:33] <tvgm2__> can someone point me in the direction of supergrub?
[02:33] <winner> i see
[02:33] <billgates> crouton: why not pray tell?
[02:33] <bimberi> SMG|CH_: i would think so
[02:34] <jesse> warbo, Thanks that works fine
[02:34] <SonicChao> winner: just ask around, see if you find anything....
[02:34] <tlaloc> hi all
[02:34] <Warbo> I have virtualised an Ubuntu system from within itself before, but everything went read-only :)
[02:34] <bimberi> SMG|CH_: sometimes people have to reconfigure X after doing things like that
[02:34] <bimberi> !xorg
[02:34] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:34] <JackDeth_> Thanks gang. L8R
[02:34] <winner> alright.
[02:34] <crouton> billgates: because you're telling vmware to read/write using direct drive access.  It's doable, but it's recommended that you keep it in the host's filesystem structure.
[02:34] <winner> I get an error saying "Error while creating /dev/hda4". thats it.
[02:34] <winner> doesn't explain what happened.
[02:34] <vem0m> hehe billgates :P
[02:34] <billgates> <--- loves ubuntu
[02:35] <vem0m> :D
[02:35] <billgates> <-- hopes ubuntu 9.0 isnt too good or vistas going down when it releases
[02:35] <vem0m> thats a good bill gates now if only the real one would see the light :P
[02:35] <SonicChao> billgates: lol, you sound like a Windoze fanboy :D
[02:35] <SonicChao> billgates: with your username
[02:35] <crouton> billgates: What you *could* do is image that partition and then run that within the ext3/reiser/whatever filesystem as usual
[02:35] <Warbo> billgates: Is that a joke about Vista's delays?
[02:35] <igul222> hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu, but my ITE8212 raid controller isn't recognized. It says I need to provide a floppy with the drivers on it, but I don't have a floppy drive. how can i continue installation without one? (installing one is not an option)
[02:35] <detectiveinspekt> how do I get the mplayer and real plugin for firefox?
[02:35] <billgates> warbo:yes
[02:35] <Warbo> (but there is no month 0)
[02:36] <SonicChao> !restricted > detectiveinspekt
[02:36] <billgates> <--wonders why noone get shis jokes.. this is almost liike my keynotes
[02:36] <vem0m> lol
[02:36] <Warbo> 6.06 means the sixth month of 06
[02:36] <SonicChao> Warbo: XD, I learn new things every day, I thought this was release 6....
[02:36] <billgates> they should of named the version 6.66
[02:36] <billgates> taht would have been way cool
[02:37] <crouton> at least you don't go running around stage like a gorilla
[02:37] <rever> Does anyone know how I can install rxvt-unicode? It is not in the repos.
[02:37] <igul222> why don't nobody respond!? I'm trying to install ubuntu, but my ITE8212 raid controller isn't recognized. It says I need to provide a floppy with the drivers on it, but I don't have a floppy drive. how can i continue installation without one? (installing one is not an option)
[02:37] <Warbo> SonicChao: It is actually release 4
[02:37] <billgates> <--runs likea  girl
[02:37] <roogle> !restricted
[02:37] <winner> ok so i thought maybe it was a hard drive problem. i went over to a second drive and resized a partition and tried creating an ext3 on there. it failed again. im beginning to think this might be a partition editor problem.
[02:37] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:37] <jimrz> anybody know what's up with the forums...keep getting error 401 authorization required
[02:37] <igul222> same
[02:37] <rever> Same here.
[02:37] <SonicChao> jimrz: The forums are down
[02:37] <SonicChao> igul222: same
[02:37] <tvgm2__> can someone point me in the direction of supergrub?
[02:37] <SonicChao> rever: SAME!
[02:37] <jimrz> thank you
[02:37] <zambadoo> someone slapped on .htaccess in there
[02:37] <SonicChao> lol!
[02:37] <tlaloc> does anybody have any idea what happen to ubuntu forums? I mean it ask for a user name and passdord but mine does not work
[02:37] <igul222> it's down
[02:38] <igul222> hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu, but my ITE8212 raid controller isn't recognized. It says I need to provide a floppy with the drivers on it, but I don't have a floppy drive. how can i continue installation without one? (installing one is not an option)
[02:38] <billgates> crouton: wahts the worst that can happen if i do point it at my ubuntu partition directly...
[02:38] <jrib> !grub > tvgm2__
[02:38] <Warbo> tvgm2__: Left a bit. (Actually I have never heard of it. I have heard of GRUB2 though)
[02:38] <crouton> billgates - corruption
[02:38] <tlaloc> ha tha explains it
[02:38] <tvgm2__> sweet thanks jrib
[02:38] <jrib> tvgm2__: I think the install grub after windows page has a link to it, or at least it did at one point
[02:38] <billgates> crouton: also, will i ahve to reinstall ubuntu when i point vmware to the partition or will it pick up my old one
[02:38] <billgates> crouton: corruption of xp or ubuntu?
[02:38] <crouton> billgates: VMWare would be using that partition as its harddisk, so... nothing would be changed.
[02:39] <rever> Did the forums get hacked? I did not put my username in password since it is not likely they would have asked to enter.
[02:39] <crouton> billgates: i recommend going to vmware.com and look in their VMTN Discussion forums and Knowledge base about direct HD access.
[02:39] <NickGarvey> rever: someone said they are upgrading
[02:39] <billgates> <-- looks away when someone talks abpout hacking ubuntu forums
[02:39] <SonicChao> winner: I think I have the answer
[02:39] <billgates> <-- and whistles
[02:39] <SonicChao> winner: Where did you get you're CDs?
[02:39] <psx1337> bastard!
[02:39] <crouton> billgates: There are FAQs on it and certainly some threads, I'm not experienced in doing it but I know it's an option.
[02:39] <winner> SonicChao: i forgot. one of the web mirrors.
[02:40] <SonicChao> psx1337: Be nice
[02:40] <rever> NickGarvey, ahhh ok was wonderin if they where hacked and someone whas phishing for passwords
[02:40] <SonicChao> winner: So you downloaded it yourself?
[02:40] <psx1337> SonicChao: i'm joking
[02:40] <winner> SonicChao: yep.
[02:40] <billgates> crouter: thanks.. i will give you soem ms shares when vista comes out
[02:40] <SonicChao> winner: I've gotta run, but I will tell you maybe the CD is corrupted
[02:40] <SonicChao> winner: Bye
[02:40] <billgates> <-- snickers quietly to himself
[02:40] <gborzi> rever: I have the same problem, ubuntu forums do not work
[02:40] <crouton> mkay
[02:41] <Ikaru1> ah, so the forum problem is not just my computer.
[02:41] <Ikaru1> good to know
[02:41] <Ikaru1> haha
[02:41] <igul222> hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu, but my ITE8212 raid controller isn't recognized. It says I need to provide a floppy with the drivers on it, but I don't have a floppy drive. how can i continue installation without one? (installing one is not an option)
[02:41] <rever> Does anyone know how to install xrvt-unicode. repos have xrvt but not xrvt-unicode.
[02:41] <crouton> billgates: You could just download VMWare Server (Free), setup a normal VMWare VM, and possibly copy data off that partition using dd or something like that.
[02:41] <YesDad> Hello
[02:41] <rever> gborzi, Hearing they are down do to an upgrade.
[02:41] <billgates> dd?
[02:41] <billgates> sorry linux noob
[02:41] <gborzi> Just before they stopped, I read they where doing maintenance
[02:41] <rever> Also could use vmware player
[02:41] <crouton> ok, np
[02:41] <pracslipkerm> hi there guys
[02:42] <rever> there is a site the you can use to create virtual machines that work with the player
[02:42] <billgates> rever: vmware player can pick up my ubuntu partition and ont corrupt anything?
[02:42] <crouton> rever - he wants to use an existing partition rather than an existing VM.
[02:43] <pracslipkerm> Can anyone help - I am having trouble access the ubuntu forums
[02:43] <jimrz> they are down
[02:43] <rever> Sorry thats what happens when I join in the middle of something
[02:44] <psx1337> dennis rodman
[02:44] <psx1337> oops wrong window
[02:44] <zambadoo> someone put it in the topic please
[02:44] <zambadoo> "forums broken, take care, buh-bye"
[02:45] <zambadoo> someone put it in the topic please
[02:45] <zambadoo> "forums broken, take care, buh-bye"
[02:45] <pracslipkerm> zambadoo - So no-one can get into the forums?
[02:45] <sangaya> nope
[02:45] <Ikaru1> nope
[02:45] <crouton> no one.
[02:45] <zambadoo> nope
[02:45] <billgates> no
[02:45] <billgates> pe
[02:45] <pracslipkerm> any idea how long for?
[02:45] <crouton> nope.
[02:45] <billgates> no
[02:45] <zambadoo> just so that everyone clear - the forums are obviously broken
[02:45] <zambadoo> no idea, my guess is as good as yours
[02:46] <sangaya> google cache of them works ;)
[02:46] <miguel> hi
[02:46] <zambadoo> hi miguel
[02:46] <zambadoo> are the forums broken?
[02:46] <vem0m> they are down
[02:46] <vem0m> updating
[02:46] <pracslipkerm> I am trying to filter email in evolution depending on if the sender is in my contacts list - is this possible?
[02:46] <miguel> i was trying to access to the ubuntuforums, but is not letting me.. is password protected
[02:46] <sanityx> OH MY GOD! Ubuntu automatically detected my wireless card! I am *impressed*!
[02:47] <crouton> sanityx - it's nice when it works, eh?
[02:47] <zambadoo> people. help me w/mdadm please.
[02:47] <crouton> software raid? ugh.
[02:47] <zambadoo> before i throw that drive out the window
[02:47] <zambadoo> it tells me mdadm: Cannot open /dev/hdb3: Device or resource busy
[02:47] <sanityx> crouton - yeah, ive gotten wireless to work on laptops before, but never right out of the box, i had to go out and buy a compatible wifi card
[02:47] <zambadoo> but it's RIGHT THERE
[02:47] <miguel> ah, ok.. so  they are down
[02:48] <miguel> can anyone recomend me a good ftp server ?
[02:48] <crouton> ftp.cdrom.com? :) oh the good old days
[02:48] <baver> Is there any way to install ubuntu off of a floppy disk (i.e.network install?)
[02:49] <miguel> floppy ubuntu.. geez.. u'll need a bunchof them
[02:49] <fractalworld> Asking again:  Would someone running 6.06 LTS please check whether they have a usb-related rule file in /etc/udev/rules.d?  I am having trouble with my USB configuration.  Thanks.
[02:49] <Knome> miguel: pure-ftpd ?
[02:49] <baver> My laptop lacks a cd-rom drive, but will boot off of a usb floppy drive so it's my only option :/
[02:49] <pracslipkerm> fractalworld - what kind of rule?
[02:49] <miguel> does it have gui/
[02:49] <miguel> ?
[02:49] <Blissex> baver: it will probably boot off a USB CD too.
[02:50] <crouton> fractalworld: nothing obviously referencing USB.
[02:50] <baver> Blssex: tried .. BIOS doesn't recognize a usb cd-rom drive
[02:50] <fractalworld> pracslipkerm, Something like: 60-symlinks.rules
[02:50] <fractalworld> crouton, Hmm.
[02:50] <billgates> is there anythign on windows that is even worhty of kissing amaroks feet?
[02:50] <billgates> i mean anythign that even comes close?
[02:50] <crouton> fractalworld: that rule exists in my system
[02:50] <baver> Blissex: it's a 7 year old laptop ... running debian right now, but I want to switch to ubuntu
[02:51] <fractalworld> crouton, where?
[02:51] <Blissex> baver: have you got another PC, a desktop perchance?
[02:51] <crouton> /etc/udev/rules.d
[02:51] <miguel> i've been having to come back to windows because  I can't set up s-video in ubuntu
[02:51] <baver> Blissex: yep
[02:51] <billgates> crouton: any idea where i can find the direct partition pointing vmware related forums? its a mess out there
[02:51] <pracslipkerm> fractalworld - I have a 60-symlinks.rule
[02:51] <crouton> billgates: one moment, i'll check
[02:52] <Blissex> baver: easiest fastest route is: buy a $3 3.5" to 2.5" disk adapter, take the laptop disk and put it into the desktop, and install there.
[02:52] <fractalworld> crouton, but I need one or two that handle mounting and usb.
[02:52] <crouton> fractalworld: within symlinks? i can check
[02:52] <billgates> thanks
[02:52] <fractalworld> crouton, something is unhappy with sysvinit.
[02:52] <baver> Blissex: hmm, never thought of that, I'll give it a shot. Thanks
[02:53] <fractalworld> crouton, I had to hack my fstab to mount usbfs explicitly.  That used to be handled automatically.
[02:53] <crouton> fractalworld: two device-specific references to USB (palm handheld and aiptek tablet) but no others
[02:53] <pracslipkerm> fractalworld - I also have a z60-usbmount.rules
[02:53] <fractalworld> crouton, the z60 one is associated with usbmount, I think.
[02:54] <crouton> i don't have a z60 in that directory... hmm
[02:54] <fractalworld> crouton, I also had to add explicit mounting of devpts to my fstab.  I am pretty sure the init process used to handle this.
[02:54] <ronocdh> does anyone know how to format a firewire external drive in Ubuntu?
[02:55] <fractalworld> crouton, anyhow, now I get various issues, like a permissions issue when I try to download images from my camera over USB.
[02:55] <crouton> weird
[02:55] <Warbo> ronocdh: What is it's device name? /dev/sda or something?
[02:55] <igul222> hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu, but my ITE8212 raid controller isn't recognized. It says I need to provide a floppy with the drivers on it, but I don't have a floppy drive. how can i continue installation without one? (installing one is not an option)
[02:55] <ronocdh> Warbo: it's formatted in NTFS right now, so it has a name. FWExternal
[02:56] <Warbo> ronocdh: But what is it's device name?
[02:56] <fractalworld> crouton, I have found some web pages that talk about permissions, but they are all in context of old hotplug-based distros, not current udev/hal/dbus ones like Ubuntu 6.06/
[02:56] <Ropechoborra> igul222, download them
[02:56] <igul222> download what?
[02:56] <boga> what is the meaning of `static binary? I am about to try out the skype 1.3 beta for Linux.
[02:56] <ronocdh> Warbo: dunno. if the "name" isn't good enough, how do I find out?
[02:56] <Ropechoborra> drivers
[02:56] <Warbo> ronocdh: type "mount" to see
[02:56] <SMG|CH_> that sounds dirty
[02:56] <CzarAlex`> If I want to install ubuntu and dual boot an existing windowsXP installation, do I want the Desktop CD or the Alternate Install CD? The XP installation is on a separate hard drive from the one the ubuntu install will go on.
[02:57] <SMG|CH_> trying to mount your pc
[02:57] <fractalworld> boga, it means that all the libraries are compiled into the binary file.
[02:57] <crouton> billgates: Here's a Workstation page to get you started... http://www.vmware.com/support/ws3/doc/ws32_disks5.html
[02:57] <spades> SMG|CH_ then you wont like the touch command
[02:57] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell boga about skype
[02:57] <igul222> i already have the drivers, but i can't add them to a floppy, because i don't have a floppy drive
[02:57] <boga> fractalworld: Thanx!
[02:57] <ronocdh> Warbo: name is /dev/sda10
[02:57] <fractalworld> boga, dynamic linking means that seperate shared library files are linked in at runtime.
[02:57] <Evilscientist> anybody know anything about getting an atapi drive permanently mounted?
[02:57] <ronocdh> and no, file format is "hfsplus," not "ntfs"
[02:57] <jcole> my synaptics touchpad is jumpy and is now hard to control... any way to remedy this without restarting X?
[02:58] <fractalworld> boga, the advantage of using shared libraries is that your programs are smaller.
[02:58] <Warbo> ronocdh: OK, the "sudo mkfs.<type> /dev/sda10" (<type> can be vfat for fat32, ext2, ext3, reiserfs, etc.)
[02:58] <boga> fractalworld: thanx a lot!
[02:58] <Warbo> ronocdh: That will format it to <type>
[02:58] <Evilscientist> jcole...new drivers?
[02:58] <tjb891> ok, when i play a sound file a get a extrewamrly faint signal from my speakers so i can jsut barely hear it over soft static, i have all the volumes maxed out, according to Alsomixer i have a Intel 82801AA-ICH
[02:58] <pyc> odd, ubuntuforums prompts me for username password :(
[02:58] <fractalworld> boga, the downside of shared libraries is that sometimes your libraries will be updated, potentially breaking programs that try to dynamically link to them.
[02:58] <jcole> Evilscientist: know issue?
[02:58] <igul222> Ropechoborra: i already have the drivers, but i don't have a floppy drive so i cant load them
[03:02] <Warbo> tjb891: I had that problem once. Turned out I had the speakers plugged in the back, but the mobo was set to use the front panel :)
[03:02] <boga> I was about to inquire about that.
[03:02] <ronocdh> Warbo: which is the most desirable format? and is <type> what it is set to NOW, or what I want it to be set to?
[03:02] <fractalworld> boga, statically-linked binaries should always (more or less) work.
[03:02] <Evilscientist> jcole....no not really....but if you're pad is jumping....sounds like a driver issue
[03:02] <ronocdh> Warbo: nevermind, saw your next msg
[03:02] <jcole> tjb891: go into gnome volume control and enable all mixers
[03:02] <ronocdh> Warbo: but still, which format do you recommend?
[03:02] <Evilscientist> I've had that kind of pad...no jumpiness at all unless sensitivity set through the roof.
[03:02] <tjb891> ok, ill try that, i don't have a front panel on my machine
[03:02] <Warbo> ronocdh: <type> is what you want it to be. ext3 is the general Linux one, vfat lets you read/write it from linux and windows, reiserfs is supposedly a little faster than ext3
[03:02] <crouton> billgates: further info http://www.vmware.com/support/kb/enduser/std_adp.php?p_sid=h915OTbi&p_lva=741&p_faqid=530&p_created=1023983830&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9ncmlkc29ydD0mcF9yb3dfY250PTE2NCZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PXJhdyBkcml2ZSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPTcmcF9wcm9kX2x2bDE9fmFueX4mcF9wcm9kX2x2bDI9fmFueX4mcF9zb3J0X2J5PWRmbHQmcF9wYWdlPTM*&p_li=
[03:02] <jcole> Evilscientist: it's the standard synaptic X touchpad driver
[03:02] <Evilscientist> check your touch sensitivity setting
[03:02] <Evilscientist> s
[03:02] <boga> I have just found out that my mic does not work my system compalins, though when I speak into it, my speakers produce sound.
[03:02] <ronocdh> Warbo: thank you! vfat sounds pretty great... I have another month or two before I purchase enough hard drive space to migrate all my media to Linux format.
[03:02] <ronocdh> Warbo: any downsides to vfat?
[03:02] <tjb891> so i tunr up all the catagories
[03:02] <tjb891> *turn
[03:02] <crouton> ronocdh: vfat has filesize limitations, 2GB i think
[03:02] <jcole> ronocdh: 2gb file size max
[03:02] <jcole> heh
[03:02] <Warbo> ronocdh: vfat can't be more than 128MB apparently. It can also fragment, and doesn't support files bigger than 4GB. Also it has no permission system
[03:02] <TalentedChimp> my network browser doesn't display workgroup or computer names in korean
[03:02] <Evilscientist> any help with atapi hdd?
[03:02] <tvgm2> can anyone tell how to completely uninstall amarok with the settings too?
[03:02] <crouton> TalentedChimp: you have the proper font files installed?
[03:02] <Warbo> tvgm2: apt-get remove --purge amarok
[03:02] <ronocdh> Warbo: oh dear. ext3 it is, then. thank you for your help!
[03:02] <ronocdh> Ubuntu users are the best
[03:02] <Warbo> ronocdh: np
[03:02] <TalentedChimp> i have installed the korean language support pack
[03:02] <tvgm2> warbo, that'll remove all settings?
[03:03] <fractalworld>  crouton, thanks for your attempt to help.
[03:03] <Warbo> tvgm2: Not your personal ones though. They are in $HOME/.kde/share/apps/amarok and $HOME/.kde/share/config/amarokrc
[03:03] <crouton> fractalworld: sorry i can't help more, sounds like you might need a reinstall to clear up that weird mounting issue
[03:03] <CarlFK> how do I tell what version of flash is instelled in FireFox ?
[03:04] <tvgm2> oh, ok
[03:04] <Warbo> CarlFK: Before you try, Flash only goes up to 7 in Linux :)
[03:04] <fractalworld> crouton, yeah.  Sad.  Serves me right for trying Edgy, though.  Word to the wise, "Don't go there."
[03:04] <tvgm2> thanks warbo
[03:04] <crouton> fractalworld: oh ho!  that could be the problem. ;)
[03:04] <TalentedChimp> workgroup and computer names are displayed as ""
[03:04] <fractalworld> crouton, I downgraded, but...
[03:04] <fractalworld> crouton, it actually went pretty well.
[03:05] <boga> How can I solve the sound lag problem in flash movies?
[03:05] <fractalworld> crouton, just these pesky little annoyances left.
[03:05] <Warbo> CarlFK: You can use Windows Firefox in WINE with Windows Flash though
[03:05] <crouton> fractalworld: interesting... you could just setup a VM and put Edgy on there.  I'm considering doing that
[03:05] <fractalworld> crouton, Xen?
[03:05] <billgates> hey all had this query.. when i updated the kernel using synaptic to 286.15 i now have two opitons in grub on bootup
[03:05] <umonkey> Is anyone else having problems accessing ubuntuforums.org? I keep getting a authorization prompt for username and password.
[03:05] <CarlFK> Warbo: interesting
[03:05] <billgates> did the install  get messed up or is it supposed to do that
[03:06] <boga> billgates: that's normal!
[03:06] <crouton> fractalworld: VMWare for me, but Xen would probably work too.  Problem is you're running on pretty generic hardware in the VM, so it's not really suitable if you're looking to submit bug reports
[03:06] <Warbo> billgates: It leaves you old kernel, and gives you recovery for each (and memtest)
[03:06] <root_> i need some major help... i updated my drivers from ATI's site after a kernel upgrade, and now all i get when i boot is an unresponsive black screen
[03:06] <boga> billgates: just choose which one you like
[03:06] <crouton> umonkey - forums are down
[03:06] <fractalworld> crouton, right.  I'm all about the bug reports.  :-)
[03:06] <adamlaz> If anyone knows a lot about Ubuntu, please PM me, I'm a n00b who wants help, thanks in advance.
[03:06] <kolaje> does the new ppp version change any of my modem's settings?  i don't understand what i installed
[03:06] <NickGarvey> !pm
[03:06] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[03:06] <umonkey> ok. thanks.
[03:06] <Warbo> adamlaz: Ask in here
[03:06] <jcole> root_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:06] <billgates> thanks.. and how do i change the boot preferences i grub?
[03:07] <fractalworld> crouton, MS, fear the penguin.
[03:07] <jcole> root_: use ati or vesa driver
[03:07] <CarlFK> root_ - you may want to /join #ati
[03:07] <billgates> i want it to defualt ot windows as in if it boots up form power off
[03:07] <crouton> fractalworld: heh.  i have a spare machine, might have to give edgy a go.
[03:07] <Warbo> billgates: the file /boot/grub/menu.lst (all the GUIs for it are crapy)
[03:07] <billgates> i can jsut copy paste and rearrange stuff in there?
[03:07] <fractalworld> crouton, seriously, not worth it right now.  Packages are in _major_ flux.
[03:07] <Warbo> billgates: Put the Windows entry above the Ubuntu ones in that file
[03:07] <spades> billgates make a backup incase you do something wrong
[03:07] <adamlaz> alright, well, i have the ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso file, and I want to make a bootable CD. anyone know a tutorial that helps me get there?
[03:08] <crouton> billgates: copy the file first before you start editing it. :)
[03:08] <CarlFK> Warbo: I got install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz from adobe.com - wondring if there is an apt-get way to install the same thing
[03:08] <crouton> fractalworld: true, and my hardware isn't exactly cutting edge to bring new meat to the table. ;)
[03:08] <fractalworld> crouton, Entire chunks of the system will be unusable due to conflicting package sets.
[03:08] <jbentleyp> any postfix junkies in this house ???
[03:08] <Warbo> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree I think
[03:08] <billgates> gotcha thanks .. i now have three boot menus to go through..one is grub, second is the vista boot menu and last is my windows xp boot menu
[03:08] <jcole> adamlaz: right click it in windows and burn cd image
[03:08] <billgates> dman annoying
[03:08] <NxNxMox> hi guys
[03:08] <NxNxMox> I just install ubuntu but I don't have a desktop...
[03:08] <penguinwhoflew> anyone here?
[03:08] <fractalworld> crouton, trailing edge is often better at turning up useful bug reports.
[03:08] <Warbo> billgates: Yeah, Windows really should use GRUB...
[03:08] <NickGarvey> NxNxMox: what do you mean?
[03:08] <crouton> nope, nobody here
[03:09] <adamlaz> jcole: how do i make it bootable?
[03:09] <ardchoille> Anyone know how to implement a timed login so a user gets forced to log off after 1 hr of computer use?
[03:09] <penguinwhoflew> sorry, DSL trouble...
[03:09] <crouton> NxNxMox: define 'don't have a desktop'
[03:09] <NxNxMox> just a blackscreen
[03:09] <fractalworld> crouton, I have been finding a lot of kernel bugs in the PCMCIA and USB subsystems.
[03:09] <NxNxMox> with my name
[03:09] <jcole> adamlaz: it already is
[03:09] <fractalworld> crouton, it's a lot of fun.
[03:09] <crouton> fractalworld: oooh. those a fun to track down
[03:09] <adamlaz> alrighty, i'll try it
[03:09] <billgates> crouton: any luck with that link? im not able to find any
[03:09] <adamlaz> thank you jcole
[03:09] <fractalworld> crouton, the kernel developers are fantastic to work with.
[03:09] <penguinwhoflew> can anyone suggest what i might do if after using ATI's drivers, all i get is a black, unresponsive screen on boot?
[03:09] <jcole> adamlaz: np
[03:09] <Warbo> adamlaz: If tehre is one file on the disc, you have done it wrong :)
[03:09] <Warbo> damn it
[03:10] <crouton> fractalworld: I did some driver dabbling for RAID drivers a while back, that was 'interesting' to say the least
[03:10] <fractalworld> crouton, you get major traction if you can effectively document bugs and will follow up when you are sent patches.
[03:10] <CarlFK> ardchoille: is rebooting the box an option ?
[03:10] <jcole> penguinwhoflew: you need to update your xorg driver to latest
[03:10] <NxNxMox> how would I boot a desktop...?
[03:10] <fractalworld> crouton, cool.
[03:10] <Warbo> penguinwhoflew: If you use a non-Ubuntu package version then you need to rebuild it after upgrading a kernel
[03:10] <matttail> hi :)  cron doesn't seem to be running on my system.   I have set up a very simple shell script to run every two minuets, but nada.  ideas?
[03:10] <crouton> billgates: scroll back up, i sent two links
[03:10] <ardchoille> CarlFK: I don't care.. as long as I can have the user forced logoff after 1 hr of use
[03:10] <penguinwhoflew> Warbo: how...? rebuild? what? big noob, sorry.
[03:10] <jbentleyp> question ?? i can recieve email through postfix mta , but cannot send out of domaim . any ideas
[03:10] <tjb891> can anyone help me with my sound card, i tried maxing out all the volumes and it just went from faint to nothing
[03:10] <jcole> penguinwhoflew: which is different than the *kernel* driver you installed
[03:11] <fractalworld> crouton, LVM is pretty interesting, too.  I have a buddy who is seriously into virtualization.  Now working for the Man in Redmond.
[03:11] <penguinwhoflew> jcole: pretty sure i did that. i've updated about everything i can find to update
[03:11] <Warbo> penguinwhoflew: Well you could do yourself a big favour right now and get rid of ATI's version of the driver and use the version in Ubuntu's packages
[03:11] <NxNxMox> anyone?
[03:11] <Woosta> I've my system set up with various applications sitting right where I want them to be on startup. I've gone to sessions and created a new one. How do I set that as the default for when I log in?
[03:11] <crouton> fractalworld: oh boy, i hope he's not doing virtual server 2005
[03:11] <jcole> penguinwhoflew: the xgl forum has a couple repos where you can update that stuff to latest
[03:11] <Woosta> How do I load a different session?
[03:11] <penguinwhoflew> Warbo: that would be lovely, if i knew how
[03:11] <fractalworld> crouton, helping the evil empire prepare IPV6 support in Vista.
[03:11] <CarlFK> ardchoille: take a look at man shutdown - bring the system down - time   When to shutdown.
[03:11] <penguinwhoflew> Warbo: i don't know how to uninstall them
[03:11] <NickGarvey> NxNxMox: I don't totally understand what isn't working, can you drop back into console?
[03:11] <Warbo> penguinwhoflew: Did you make some packages with the installer?
[03:11] <CarlFK> ardchoille: but there has to be a better way :)
[03:12] <ardchoille> CarlFK: ok, I'll have a look at that right now. Thank you :)
[03:12] <jcole> penguinwhoflew: i had the same problem
[03:12] <billgates> thanks crouton
[03:12] <crouton> fractalworld: ipv6? heh. at least they're thinking ahead on *some* things.
[03:12] <penguinwhoflew> Warbo: i um... think so? i just ran it.
[03:12] <crouton> billgates: np, good luck
[03:12] <ardchoille> CarlFK: yeah, I was thinking of maybe a kiosk type app or something
[03:12] <ucordes> how can i adjust my cpu core speed lke with acpi?
[03:12] <fractalworld> crouton, apparently, they are going to have a kick-butt implementation of IPV6.
[03:12] <Warbo> penguinwhoflew: Try going in a text console with ctrl-alt-f1 and logging in. Then run "sudo aptitude" and use / to search for fglrx or ati
[03:12] <jcole> ucordes: man powernowd
[03:12] <penguinwhoflew> agh, crazyass lag
[03:13] <crouton> too bad nobody will run ipv6 until absolutely necessary, but... meh
[03:13] <tvgm2> does amarok 1.4.1 freeze on startup for anyone else?  am i missing a dependancy?
[03:13] <fractalworld> crouton, my friend says the DOD are hanging around at MS, because the stuff they are doing is pretty revolutionary for IPV6 implentation.  They are working closely with the router manufactures.
[03:13] <penguinwhoflew> Warbo: i'm in irssi, brb
[03:13] <quicoju_> how do i do to uninstall xorg7, the metapackage?
[03:13] <ucordes> jcole: thanks, does this work for turion?
[03:13] <fractalworld> crouton, I hope Linux can complete feature-for-feature.  We'll see.
[03:14] <Warbo> tvgm2: If you get it up, can you tell me if the Visualisations option is in the Tools menu? (I'm curious)
[03:14] <crouton> fractalworld: if 6.06 LTS is any indication, there's a bright future for Linux desktops in the next couple years.
[03:14] <fractalworld> crouton, agreed.
[03:14] <penguinwhoflew> Warbo: ctrl alt f1 does nothing, ctrl alt f2 just gives a blank screen
[03:14] <jcole> ucordes: couldn't tell you, powernowd is what is controlling the cpu speed on my laptop right now
[03:14] <brandon_> what's up with the forums? i'm getting an authentication request as if the whole site was secure
[03:14] <fractalworld> crouton, Thank God for NetworkManager.  Any laptop user has got to have it.
[03:14] <Warbo> penguinwhoflew: Just any way to get to a login prompt
[03:15] <penguinwhoflew> Warbo: brb then
[03:15] <crouton> 6.06 is the first Linux I'd consider putting on a laptop, and NetworkManager is a big reason why.
[03:15] <matttail> does any one know, do I need to do something to get cron running?  It doesn't seem to be working at all
[03:15] <tvgm2> warbo, no can do, once it starts up, it goes colorless.  when i stop the amarokapp process, amarokcollectionscanner comes to life a uses the cpu for about 15 seconds then quits.
[03:15] <fractalworld> crouton, it'll be another year or so before WIFI on Linux really hits a sweet spot.  There is a lot of work to do.
[03:16] <jcole> penguinwhoflew: reboot into grub, hit E to edit the kernel line, append "single" to the end, then hit B to boot
[03:16] <matttail> brandon_ they are upgrading it I believe.  There was an message earlier.. now just password prompt
[03:16] <fractalworld> crouton, that's another area that needs testing.
[03:16] <crouton> fractalworld: It's touchy on Windows and OSX too, so the fact that 6.06 is this good already is a promising sign.
[03:16] <fractalworld> crouton, yeah, for sure.
[03:16] <brandon_> mattail, jeez i thought they already upgraded it recently
[03:17] <fractalworld> crouton, gotta cruise.  All the best...
[03:17] <lessthn0> where to get streamtuner and streamripper
[03:17] <crouton> cya fractal
[03:17] <matttail> brandon_ duno, but I can't even get google cache to load properly... keeps asking for a passowrd.
[03:17] <jokersmild> Anybody in here have a ASRock P4VM800 mobo?
[03:17] <Warbo> tvgm2: I installed it and ran it fine (had to rebuild collection though) but it had no visualisation support. I tried to build it myself but for some reason only the docs got built. Anyway I then went on Google and found a few other Repos (but then my collection didn't build and I had to remove all of my preferences from .kde :( )
[03:17] <kbrooks> kbrooks@kbrooks-desktop:~$ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /mnt
[03:17] <kbrooks> kbrooks is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[03:17] <dbmata> is the forum down or, is it just me not being able to log in/
[03:17] <dbmata> ?
[03:17] <kbrooks> But ...
[03:17] <NickGarvey> kbrooks: HAXOR!
[03:18] <PointyThingsHurt> dbmata: I can't get to it either
[03:18] <NickGarvey> kbrooks: visudo ;)
[03:18] <matttail> dbmata: forum seems to be down for upgrades
[03:18] <dbmata> pointythingshurt: thanks. I thought it was just me.
[03:18] <tvgm2> warbo, what repo you have for it?
[03:18] <kbrooks> NickGarvey: hrm
[03:18] <PointyThingsHurt> I needed to post something to hopefully get some help >.<
[03:18] <Warbo> tvgm2: I have about 4, I'm not sure which one I have got it from though
[03:18] <dbmata> Same here. my nvidia drivers install is tanking.
[03:18] <PointyThingsHurt> I'll just wiat then.
[03:18] <PointyThingsHurt> wait*
[03:19] <kbrooks> NickGarvey: i mounted /dev/hdb1 (or tried to, anyway) and suddenly things dont work
[03:19] <NickGarvey> kbrooks: what kind of things?
[03:19] <PointyThingsHurt> Anyone use a WPC11 v4 wifi card?
[03:19] <kbrooks> NickGarvey:  visudo says permission denied
[03:19] <dbmata> pth: naw, sorry.
[03:20] <Warbo> bye
[03:20] <jrattner1> gksudo
[03:20] <kbrooks> NickGarvey: "-r--r----- 1 root root 403 2006-07-05 03:31 /etc/sudoers"
[03:20] <NickGarvey> kbrooks: sudo -i?
[03:20] <NickGarvey> kbrooks: get on a user who can edit the file and put your name in it
[03:20] <kbrooks> NickGarvey: Who changed the permissions?
[03:20] <ardchoille> kbrooks: duso visudo
[03:20] <coz_> can someone tell me if there is a gnome power manager .conf file?
[03:20] <ardchoille> *sudo
[03:20] <kbrooks> ardchoille: i cant use sudo
[03:21] <Moocasso> This is Ubuntu support right?  If anybody isn't busy helping someone already I'm fairly new, having trouble with something...
[03:21] <bimberi> kbrooks: recovery mode
[03:21] <kbrooks> maybe the laatest updates caused it
[03:21] <coz_> Moocasso, what seems to be the problem
[03:21] <NickGarvey> kbrooks: oh um, let me see the permissions on mine
[03:21] <adamant1988> Moocasso, what's your prob?
[03:21] <NickGarvey> Moocasso: ask away
[03:21] <ucordes> jcole: ok i had powernowd allready installed. but how can i set frequency with it?
[03:21] <ardchoille> kbrooks: can't be, I just updated and I can sudo
[03:21] <bimberi> Moocasso: just ask away, if someone can help they'll answer :)
[03:21] <Moocasso> well, I'm trying to install a package, some active perl thing that I apparantly need for something else, and yeah...but anyway
[03:21] <NickGarvey> kbrooks: thats the right permissions
[03:22] <jcole> ucordes: man powernowd
[03:22] <sponix> Inst bind9 (1:9.3.2-2ubuntu1 Ubuntu:6.06/dapper) --> shutdown/reboot scripts hang, the system itself will still switch virtual consoles, but it doesn't let me type, or respond to anything
[03:22] <halitech> not sure if this has been asked but is the forum down for some reason?
[03:22] <kbrooks> halitech: upgrdes
[03:22] <crouton> forum down for upgrades
[03:22] <Moocasso> I use apt-get install <package name>, shows a couple lines of loading things, then says E: Couldn't find package <package name>
[03:22] <adamlaz> back... now it says its adding data
[03:22] <sanityx> Does anybody here know spamassassin? I've been asking for help in #spamassassin but it seems like nobody's there.
[03:22] <coz_> Moocasso, i assum eyou have all of yourrepositories activated
[03:22] <squiggly> DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0
[03:22] <squiggly> Roflmao
[03:22] <PointyThingsHurt> Splits!
[03:22] <halitech> ahhh, was hoping it something like that, kept asking for a username when I tried to load it. glad it's not something on my end :)
[03:23] <vem0m> YaY fun
[03:23] <crouton> the netsplit that wasn't? weird.
[03:23] <bimberi> !ops
[03:23] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[03:23] <gnomefreak> ???
[03:23] <vem0m> lol
[03:24] <bimberi> thanks gnomefreak, i was possibly a bit quick on the !ops draw then
[03:24] <nalioth> bimberi: you were fine
[03:25] <crouton> heh
[03:25] <jokersmild> is there anybody in here that has an ASRock mobo that can walk me through correcting a resolution problem
[03:25] <bimberi> thanks nalioth
[03:25] <paied> does anyone know what is going on with gnome-terminal in this? http://www.opsat.net/temp/term_joe.png
[03:26] <Moocasso> okay, sorry, Kopete is being difficult
[03:26] <Moocasso> I'm fairly new so I have no idea what you mean by having all my repositories activated, sorry
[03:26] <Finalhazard> Hey, anyone know what's up with the official forums?
[03:26] <PointyThingsHurt> Finalhazard: I think they are down for maintance
[03:26] <Finalhazard> Oh.
[03:26] <halitech> Final, I just asked the same thing,, doing upgrades
[03:26] <Finalhazard> Well, that makes sense.
[03:26] <jokersmild> is there anybody in here that has an ASRock mobo that can walk me through correcting a resolution problem
[03:26] <PointyThingsHurt> That's why I came in heh
[03:26] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: I reported him to lilo :)
[03:27] <Finalhazard> Also, I have another question. Anyone know a good BT client for GNOME, that lets you DL multiple torrents?
[03:27] <quicoju_> help! i keep getting this error when trying to load Xorg http://pastebin.ca/80523
[03:27] <lightdifference> hey, I was just wondering if the issue with the powermac fans has been fixed?
[03:27] <tvgm2> !knotify
[03:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about knotify
[03:27] <crouton> Moocasso brings up a good point.. universe is enabled by default by multiverse is not
[03:27] <Moocasso> I...wha?
[03:28] <lightdifference> I'm contemplating putting it on the wiki for edgy, but I dunno if I should.
[03:28] <crouton> repositories
[03:28] <halitech> Final, Azarus is decent if you have alot of RAM
[03:28] <ucordes> is there any GUI for powernowd?
[03:28] <Finalhazard> Azureus... I don't have that much RAM, only 256MB.
[03:28] <vem0m> yes az uses tons of RAM
[03:28] <Finalhazard> So yah, not a good choice...
[03:28] <Pelo> I made a guide for those who would like to use  Torrent on linux if anyone is interested ?
[03:28] <Moocasso> I...er...help?
[03:28] <vem0m> over half of mine and i have 1.3 GB
[03:28] <halitech> Final, you don't want az then, I have 384 and it just bogs my system
[03:28] <vem0m> i am using Ktorrent
[03:29] <Finalhazard> Oh, yah.
[03:29] <Finalhazard> I'll get KTorrent, good idea.
[03:29] <vem0m> :)
[03:29] <Pelo> Finalhazard http://www.securenet.net/members/jeanpelo/linux_guide.html
[03:29] <vem0m> and it uses filters :)
[03:29] <halitech> Pelo, sure
[03:29] <doctormo> hello all
[03:29] <vem0m> hello
[03:29] <fiveiron> ugh
[03:29] <crouton> utorrent in Linux, or utorrent in Wine in Linux?
[03:29] <halitech> Pelo, going to check now
[03:29] <Finalhazard> Besides, I use two KDE apps on GNOME anyways, they being Kolourpaint and Amarok...
[03:29] <paied> anyone know why gnome-terminal is messing up with joe like that?
[03:29] <Moocasso> I've honestly only been using Ubuntu for about a day...does anybody have any advice for what I should check here?  I don't know what to do...
[03:29] <tvgm2> anyone know how i can get amarok to go into the system tray in ubuntu?
[03:29] <Pelo> halitech  it works  http://www.securenet.net/members/jeanpelo/utorrent_ubuntu.png
[03:30] <Pelo> crouton  Torrent with wine in linux
[03:30] <crouton> Moocasso: what's the problem
[03:30] <crouton> Pelo: ah, ok.
[03:30] <halitech> Pelo, what kind of performance hit do you see running it under WINE?
[03:30] <StyxAlso> Anyone here using linpack on Ubuntu
[03:30] <vem0m> yea it runs thu wine but utorrent was known to be in association with Anti piracy groups
[03:30] <StyxAlso> I'm having trouble linking against it
[03:30] <doctormo> thoughts and feelings on this idea: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/drmo/Harmonist_Main_Panel.png
[03:30] <vem0m> so i refuse to use it
[03:30] <ucordes> is there any GUI for powernowd?
[03:30] <tjb891> ok, can anyone tell me how to set the sound options back to default
[03:30] <vem0m> and besides it uses tons of ram going thu wine too
[03:30] <Moocasso> trying to install a package, I'm using the root terminal and typing apt-get install <package name>, the results are Reading package lists... Done
[03:30] <Moocasso> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:30] <Moocasso> E: Couldn't find package <package name>
[03:31] <lessthn0> i'm having same problem
[03:31] <crouton> Moocasso: what's the package you're looking for
[03:31] <Moocasso> it's some Perl package...
[03:31] <Pelo> halitech  work just as well as in xp with a few minor details not working like right click speed change,  the only annoying bit is that wine needs to load explorer with takes an extra 17 megs of memory
[03:31] <lessthn0> when trying to install streamripper and streamtuner
[03:31] <halitech> Moocasso, what are you trying to install? sounds like you may not have the repository enabled where it is looking?
[03:31] <vem0m> brb
[03:31] <Moocasso> ...I don't know how you mean really
[03:31] <crouton> Moocasso: you could try apt-cache search 'packagename' without the quotes
[03:31] <Finalhazard> Also, anyone have any ideas when Flash 9 is coming out for linux? XP
[03:32] <spades> 2007
[03:32] <crouton> or a shortened version of said packagename to get more hits
[03:32] <Moocasso> hmmm, I'll check
[03:32] <Pelo> halitech  speed is unaffected
[03:32] <halitech> Pelo, ok, I think I'll just keep using the BTGUI client for now till I can get more RAM
[03:32] <Moocasso> brb
[03:32] <jpwdesigns> hi  can anywone tell me how to get a user/pass for the ubuntuforum ?
[03:32] <Pelo> halitech  suit yourself
[03:32] <NickGarvey> jpwdesigns: its down right now
[03:32] <jpwdesigns> ok thanks
[03:33] <Finalhazard> Dangit.
[03:33] <kriz> ls
[03:33] <Finalhazard> I thought there'd be a beta or alpha sooner...
[03:33] <halitech> Pelo, I'll bookmark it and maybe give it a try but don't have anything I'm looking for right now
[03:33] <Pelo> anyone been able to get a RCA Lyra  mp3 player to work properly in ubuntu ?  ubu miss reads the free space and then the player can'T  play the files in the right order
[03:33] <crouton> gentoo? ruhroh
[03:33] <kbrooks> THE  STATEMENT TO END ALL STATEMENTS ABOUT THE UBUNTU FORUMS: IT IS ASKING YOU FOR A USER & PASS B/C ITS DOWN.
[03:34] <Moocasso> Okay, so I tried searching for ActivePerl (short name for the package) in Synaptic and found nothing
[03:34] <crouton> so put it in the Title or something, so people see it when they come in.
[03:34] <Pelo> kbrooks  put it in the topic
[03:34] <Pelo> Moocasso  just search for perl and browse the results
[03:35] <MickMcMack> Hallo thar. :<
[03:35] <boga> anyone able to get to ubuntuforums.org? I am being asked for a password and even when I provide my ogin credentials, they are rejected!
[03:35] <Moocasso> tried, didn't find anything relevant
[03:35] <steveneddy> what's up with the ubuntu forums tonight?
[03:35] <crouton> Moocasso: You might actually be looking for packages that Perl can download from within it's own environment.
[03:35] <kbrooks> who me, crouton / Pelo?
[03:35] <kbrooks> 1. not endorsed by canonical
[03:35] <kbrooks> 2. not an chan op
[03:35] <sid> hi guys
[03:35] <sid> how do i get access to ubuntu forums
[03:35] <sid> i want to signup
[03:35] <crouton> kbrooks: Then why the pronouncement? You'd have to repeat it every 10 minutes, like sid just showcased.
[03:35] <boga> steveneddy: I just asked a while ago!
[03:35] <kbrooks> THE  STATEMENT TO END ALL STATEMENTS ABOUT THE UBUNTU FORUMS: IT IS ASKING YOU FOR A USER & PASS B/C ITS DOWN.
[03:35] <steveneddy> i updated with a new password thingy and haven't been able to log an anymore
[03:35] <bimberi> kbrooks: please
[03:35] <steveneddy> ok kbrooks
[03:36] <kriz> Ubuntu FOrums seems to be down. Are they doing any amintainance?
[03:36] <Pelo> kbrooks   your statement to end all, put it in the topic
[03:36] <doctormo> did anyone look at my idea?
[03:36] <sid> aaah
[03:36] <kbrooks> bimberi: Please what?
[03:36] <sid> its a pretty crap way of doing maintenance
[03:36] <DarkMageZ> how to i search for a file in all the packages in the repo's? i'm looking for "/usr/lib/libXrender.la"
[03:36] <Moocasso> so I looked in Synaptic for Perl and didn't find anything relevant, didn't find the package name anywhere in the list...
[03:36] <kbrooks> sid: maybe its a security lock down
[03:36] <kbrooks> Moocasso: lower case
[03:36] <bimberi> kbrooks: don't keep posting that - look it didn't even work for kriz two posts later
[03:36] <Finalhazard> Well, would you rather people look at ugly coding and crap while you upgrade, sid?
[03:36] <kbrooks> "perl", not "Perl"
[03:37] <mark_> how can I rn or install a .deb package
[03:37] <sid> no id put up a single page
[03:37] <mark_> I forgot how
[03:37] <steveneddy> maybe I souldn't have posted what I did last night
[03:37] <crouton> Moocasso: What's the exact package within ActivePerl you're looking for?
[03:37] <whiter> im trying to install plugger for opera but its telling me X isnt installed
[03:37] <spades> mark_ dpkg -i file
[03:37] <kriz> . um.
[03:37] <lightstar> mark_, sudo dpkh -i <pkg>.deb
[03:37] <mark_> thanks guys
[03:37] <sid> sayting "We are doing maintenance, we will resume our services shortly"
[03:37] <whiter> "checking for x... no"
[03:37] <lightstar> dpkg
[03:37] <crouton> Pelo:  I don't have a Lyra anymore. Sorry. :(
[03:37] <Moocasso> The search already has 'Perl' in it's history, wont' let me search for 'perl'
[03:37] <whiter> and it seems i dont have the header files for X , so what package would i download to get those
[03:37] <BBB> hey guys, I'm doing an install from the liveCD on a macbook, however, during partitioning, the thing keeps insisting to format all my partitions as swap, even though I selected ext3 in the dropdown list
[03:37] <Finalhazard> I must be the only GDebi user in here. XD
[03:37] <BBB> what's going on here?
[03:37] <whiter> like X.h, Xos.h and such
[03:37] <Pelo> crouton  what do you use ? is there such a thing as a linux compatible mp3 player ?
[03:38] <NickGarvey> !quota
[03:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about quota
[03:38] <sid> Anyways
[03:38] <spades> BBB i think there is a checkbox you can untick regarding format
[03:38] <sid> guys im having an issue with a site
[03:38] <crouton> Pelo:  I think the Archos are fairly compatible, there's some Linux iPod software...
[03:38] <BBB> spades: I want it to format, but as ext3, not as swap
[03:38] <halitech> sid, what site? and what happens?
[03:38] <sid> can someonbe check it out for me...it use flash and crashes when it gets to 40%
[03:38] <vem0m> back
[03:38] <vem0m> hmmmm
[03:38] <sid> the site is members.afraccess.com
[03:38] <Reimu> does anyone know what was added to dapper to make it autodetect my internet? I can't see it on breezy, what would it be?
[03:38] <vem0m> sid: using apt-get?
[03:38] <Pelo> ok, thanks guys I 'll try to figure it out on my own
[03:39] <Pelo> g'night
[03:39] <crouton> Reimu: autodetect your *connection* ?
[03:39] <tvgm2> anyone know how i can get amarok to go into the system tray in ubuntu?
[03:39] <Moocasso> anybody?  'Perl' not found in Synaptic, it's already in search history in lower case so can't search for 'perl'
[03:39] <sid> ive upgraded firefox
[03:39] <vem0m> hmmmm relink the old one
[03:39] <Xiomaro> Hi, can anyone help me get Hibernate working on Dapper?
[03:39] <MarcN> tvgm2: just run it?
[03:39] <Moocasso> er, already in history in upper case
[03:39] <vem0m> mine worked fine and i updated
[03:39] <crouton> Moocasso: What package are you looking for?  Not just ActivePerl, but what exactly
[03:39] <whiter> what package are the X11 header files in?
[03:39] <sid> other flash sites work fine
[03:39] <vem0m> then again i used adept to update
[03:39] <whiter> like X.h and Xos.h and Xatom.h
[03:39] <mark_> does anyone know the library for libstdc5++ so i can apt-get it?
[03:40] <Moocasso> well it's doing it for other packages I try anyway
[03:40] <mark_> i'm trying to run fluxbox
[03:40] <tvgm2> marcN, but when i close it it doesn't show in the tray and something called knotify tries to run
[03:40] <Reimu> crouton: what do you mean? with breezy I was never able to use internet but dapper was fine, do you know why this is so?
[03:40] <ryanakca> is there a slight possibility of archives.ubuntu.com being down? http://pastebin.ca/81028
[03:40] <halitech> sid, trying it now
[03:40] <Moocasso> like there's a FIrefox plugin that came in a package I'm trying to install as well, gives me the same error
[03:40] <sid> halitech: thanks mate
[03:40] <LjL> mark_: sorry? i'm not sure what you're asking
[03:40] <crouton> Reimu: What were you trying to connect with, wifi, LAN or modem?
[03:40] <MarcN> tvgm2: using kde or gnome desktop?
[03:40] <Reimu> LAN
[03:40] <tvgm2> gnome
[03:40] <mark_> LjL, I need libstdc5++ in order to run fluxbox
[03:40] <mark_> but I can't apt-get it
[03:41] <mark_> I'm confused
[03:41] <MarcN> tvgm2: me too.  I just typed 'amarok' and it shows up in the notification panel
[03:41] <halitech> sid, freezes at 40%, I'd say an issue with the site
[03:41] <ToHellWithGA> how can i change my NIC configuration in a terminal?
[03:41] <LjL> mark_: what happens when you try? (also, installing fluxbox should get it installed automatically, like with every package)
[03:41] <spades> mark_ apt-cache search libstdc  and see what versions are avail for ya
[03:41] <sid> halitech: ok cool, i wanted to double check
[03:41] <tvgm2> marcN, no such luck here =(
[03:41] <sid> halitech: any place where i can check the firefox logs
[03:42] <halitech> ToHell, sudo nano /etc/network/devices I think
[03:42] <crouton> Reimu: Could be dapper has drivers for your card that Breezy didn't.  Hard to say.
[03:42] <ToHellWithGA> i would like to customize my NIC setup to use certain DNS servers and a static local IP
[03:42] <Reimu> ok
[03:42] <sid> halitech:once gain thanks mate
[03:42] <crouton> ToHellWithGA: What's the good word? :)
[03:42] <halitech> sid, no idea, still fairly new to ubuntu myself
[03:42] <ToHellWithGA> crouton: that's very yoda-esque
[03:42] <crouton> ToHellWithGA: just being a ramblin wreck, that's all
[03:42] <sid> halitech: should not be network devices
[03:42] <MarcN> tvgm2: so what happens?   I click the x corner and it tells me about it isn't really exiting, but will be running in the panel. ok?
[03:43] <sid> this should be app related
[03:43] <spades> ToHellWithGA edit /etc/resolv.conf with your custom nameservers and chattr -i the file so it doesnt get reset, chattr +i to reverse the effect
[03:43] <ToHellWithGA> thanks spades
[03:43] <crouton> changing your NIC configuration from terminal involves editing /etc/network/interfaces usually
[03:43] <tvgm2> marcN, it showed me that, i checked the box to not show that message again, hit ok, nothing in notification area
[03:43] <halitech> sid, going off the top of my head with what I did on my headless box with no mouse, used to pulling the forum up and getting answers :(
[03:44] <halitech> thanks crouton
[03:44] <tvgm2> still have music and if i enter amarok in terminal it'll pop back up
[03:44] <MarcN> tvgm2: do you have a notification area?  mine is next to gaim, tomboy, network-manager, etc
[03:44] <crouton> halitech: sure, what'd i help with?
[03:44] <nverhaar> hey guys, I have an Ubuntu server running Hoary... is it safe for me to dist-upgrade to dapper?
[03:44] <Moocasso> is there a way to open a root terminal window without right clicking a .deb and selecting open in root terminal?
[03:44] <mark_> how can I install the menu package
[03:44] <tvgm2> marcN, i thought gaim, power-manager were in the notification area
[03:44] <mark_> fluxbox is dependant on it
[03:45] <mark_> I've tried apt-cache search
[03:45] <mark_> but to no avail
[03:45] <v3rt> how do i register for teh ubuntu forums?
[03:45] <AstralSin> i just installed the 64 bit version of ubuntu on my new a64 box, it freezes randomly.. anyone know what could cause this?
[03:45] <crouton> forums are down for upgrades, can't login or register.
[03:45] <blackwaterpark> v3rt: I think they're down
[03:45] <blackwaterpark> ah, there ya go
[03:45] <professor_chaos> #ubuntuforums
[03:45] <MarcN> tvgm2: depends on what you are running what is in the notification area.
[03:45] <spades> mark_ its called menu, have you tried apt-get install menu?
[03:46] <v3rt> where is the GAIM plugins folder in Ubuntu? I want to install a plugin but can't find it
[03:46] <mark_> yeah spacey
[03:46] <mark_> spades, *
[03:46] <halitech> crouton, the correct path to edit the network settings
[03:46] <crouton> halitech: ah, no problem.
[03:47] <nverhaar> has anyone done a dist-upgrade from one release of Ubuntu to the next?? ive heard some horror stories and a bit hesitent to go ahead with it
[03:47] <psx1337> Anyone know why ndiswrapper (not source) isn't showing up on Breezy Badger's SPM utility
[03:47] <psx1337> I enabled all repositories
[03:47] <v3rt> where is the GAIM plugins folder in Ubuntu? I want to install a plugin but can't find it
[03:47] <eternalsword> I tried to install ubuntu 6.06 amd64 version on a Dell with Pentium D.  Install completes successfully and grub loads fine, but when ubuntu is booting, it stalls at "Running local boot scripts".  Anyone have any idea what I can do?
[03:47] <crouton> eternalsword: try rebooting and booting in safe mode, by hitting Esc when GRUB is loading
[03:48] <ronocdh> can anyone tell me how to rename an external drive? I already have it formatted as vfat
[03:48] <LjL> v3rt: i don't know, but you could try "dpkg -L gaim" and see what files and directories Gaim uses
[03:48] <tvgm2> marcN, i added another notification area, and it still doesn't show up
[03:48] <halitech> nverhaar, I did from breezy to dapper and from what I've heard, I must have been lucky cause it went through with no problem, but I was ready to format and install fresh if I had needed to
[03:48] <nverhaar> hmmm
[03:48] <mark_> spades,
[03:48] <mark_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:48] <mark_> is only available from another source
[03:48] <spades> mark_ http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/menu  see if that package will work for ya
[03:48] <mark_> thats what happens when i try menu
[03:48] <v3rt> how do i determine which version of Xorg i have?
[03:48] <Dial_tone> do you guys clear /tmp on boot/shutdown?
[03:48] <mark_> okay spacey
[03:48] <psx1337> ndiswrapper-utils actually is not available
[03:48] <mark_> spades,
[03:49] <v3rt> how do i determine which version of Xorg i have?
[03:49] <LjL> mark_: have you run "sudo apt-get update" recently? if you haven't, do
[03:49] <Gwanky> I need some help setting up Xubuntu that room is fairly non responsive
[03:49] <crouton> v3rt - could do an apt-cache showpkg xorg-xserver
[03:49] <Moocasso> Quick question:  Where do I find the $PATH variable?
[03:49] <Kilopopo> ;p
[03:49] <Kilopopo> this sucks
[03:49] <crouton> what sucks
[03:49] <Gwanky> Is Dapper Drake compatible with the 7600GT?
[03:49] <halitech> nverhaar, it may work for you as well, just make sure you have everything backed up and sacrifice an old 486 to the great god murphy
[03:49] <nverhaar> i have a server running hoary, and its basically just a gateway/firewall box with a squid proxy, but it freezes completely at seemingly random intervals with messages on screen regarding kswapd and kerneld... i was considering an upgrade to dapper
[03:49] <Kilopopo> renderaccel true crashes all gnome based applications
[03:50] <Gwanky> Is Breezy badger  compatible with nVidias 7600GT?
[03:50] <Kilopopo> i dont wanna use kde for xgl
[03:50] <crouton> Gwanky: should be
[03:50] <Kilopopo> anyone pls
[03:50] <Kilopopo> help
[03:50] <wile_coyote> anyone else having trouble getting fullscreen games to actually go fullscreen?
[03:50] <metaltailz> is anyone else getting an authorization required error at ubuntuforums.org?
[03:50] <crouton> Kilopopo: what's the problem
[03:50] <crouton> forums are down
[03:50] <Gwanky> Because I get xserver errors using the Breezy Badger build
[03:50] <nverhaar> forums are down
[03:50] <metaltailz> ok
[03:50] <metaltailz> thanks
[03:50] <Gwanky> and I've tried like 30 different CDS
[03:50] <bimberi> Moocasso: it's a shell variable - type ''echo $PATH'' to see what it's in.  It's set globally in /etc/environment
[03:50] <nverhaar> jinx!
[03:51] <crouton> dang
[03:51] <metaltailz> lol
[03:51] <ronocdh> I can't figure out how to name a formatted external drive. any tips?
[03:51] <v3rt> how do i determine which version of Xorg i have?
[03:51] <guest> !samba
[03:51] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:51] <Moocasso> k, ty
[03:51] <bimberi> s/it's in/it is/
[03:51] <mark_> spades, libimlib2 is needed as well, but i can't find hat in apt-cache or on the debian package site
[03:51] <picket> !nfs
[03:51] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:51] <v3rt> how do i determine which version of Xorg i have?
[03:51] <crouton> hmm
[03:51] <Kilopopo> crouton, i installed nvidia-glx-legacy then enabled renderaccel true in xorg.conf... but when i launch gnomeapplications like gedit my system crashes... it locks up the system do you have any fix for this
[03:51] <LjL> v3rt: i think you've already been answered. and in any case, it doesn't help repeating the same question N times.
[03:51] <wile_coyote> anyone else having trouble getting fullscreen games to actually go fullscreen? dapper w/lnvidia drivers
[03:51] <Gwanky> whats the most user friendly xubuntu installation?
[03:52] <Dial_tone> Gwanky: how many are there?
[03:52] <pulpfiction> hello
[03:52] <spades> mark_ not really sure then sorry
[03:52] <Gwanky> OEM TEXT
[03:52] <Gwanky> SERVER
[03:52] <Gwanky> LSQ SERVEr
[03:52] <Gwanky> I was debating between OEM and text
[03:52] <pulpfiction> how do i unblock my port 22?
[03:52] <crouton> v3rt
[03:52] <Gwanky> but oem doesnt appear to have a GUI
[03:52] <DShepher1> v3rt: aptitude show xserver-xorg | grep Version
[03:52] <Gwanky> and text sounds like it doesnt
[03:52] <pulpfiction> i need someone to connect on my machine by ssh
[03:53] <Kilopopo> crouton, do you have any idea?????
[03:53] <pulpfiction> i just installed sshd and have it running
[03:53] <Moocasso> I can't find etc/environment :P
[03:53] <NickGarvey> :)
[03:53] <pulpfiction> i can connect myself on localhost, but.. no one outside can connect on me
[03:53] <spades> pulpfiction are you behind a router or something that would need you to forward port 22?
[03:53] <crouton> Kilopopo: nope, sorry. I usually don't mess with updating drivers
[03:53] <bimberi> Moocasso: /etc/environment    the first / is important
[03:53] <crouton> v3rt - try checking /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:53] <tvgm2> can anyone tell me how to get ctrl+alt+del to display system monitor?
[03:53] <pulpfiction> spades: i don't think so
[03:54] <Moocasso> Okay, I mean //etc/environment, I can't find it
[03:54] <pulpfiction> spades: ubuntu by default doesn't block ports?
[03:54] <NickGarvey> tvgm2: using kde? by any chance?
[03:54] <Moocasso> I found //etc fine, but there's no 'environment'
[03:54] <tvgm2> gnome
[03:54] <T313C0mun1s7> What is up with the forums?
[03:54] <spades> pulpfiction it shouldnt, did you install a firwall?
[03:54] <Kilopopo> do you guys know where i can find archived ubuntu nvidia-glx-legacy drivers?>>
[03:54] <pulpfiction> spa: no
[03:54] <pulpfiction> spades: no..
[03:54] <crouton> forums are down
[03:54] <NickGarvey> T313C0mun1s7: the system is down!
[03:54] <MarcN> pulpfiction: is mysql listening on port 3306? (check for skip-networking in /etc/mysql/my.cnf)
[03:54] <LjL> mark_: there's something you aren't realizing, namely that *your system is broken*. you won't fix it by simply "patching in" the packages you need. the fact that you can't install packages that are *part of the standard distribution* (libimlib2 is in Main) means you have a problem. try to solve that problem, don't just try to get fluxbox or whatever running in any way -- that'll just result in the same problem next time you want to install someth
[03:54] <spades> pulpfiction what ip is your machine on?
[03:55] <DShepher1> Kilopopo: archived?
[03:55] <LjL> mark_: as i said, have you tried doing "sudo apt-get update"? if so, does it give any error?
[03:55] <pulpfiction> spades: 201.43.146.106
[03:55] <T313C0mun1s7> How long have they been down? (forums)
[03:55] <pulpfiction> marcn: hold on, i'll check
[03:55] <ronocdh> anyone know how to rename a (vfat) formatted external hard drive?
[03:55] <psx1337> Ah, does ndiswrapper not work for PPC?
[03:55] <spades> pulpfiction getting a connection refused on telnet and ssh on port 22, is sshd running?
[03:56] <mark_> LjL, that command worked fine
[03:56] <crouton> ronocdh: try checking google?
[03:56] <ronocdh> yup.
[03:56] <ronocdh> but thanks for the shoot down.
[03:56] <LjL> mark_: and what about "apt-cache show libimlib2"?
[03:56] <pulpfiction> root     12804  0.0  0.2   4764  1048 ?        Ss   22:38   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[03:56] <pulpfiction> yes, it's running
[03:56] <crouton> sorry, just trying to help
[03:56] <mark_> it wont return anything
[03:56] <pulpfiction> hold on, i'll check one thing
[03:57] <ronocdh> I appreciate it. trouble I've had with searching for formatting tips is that the results are mostly regarding initial installation
[03:57] <eternalsword> I can successfully boot in recovery mode, nothing happens in grub when I hit ESC.  Every time I try to boot normally it stall at "Running local boot scripts"  any ideas?
[03:57] <LjL> mark_: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file into the pastebin for me?
[03:57] <mark_> okay
[03:57] <xsrvrx> can anyone help me with installing packages?
[03:57] <T313C0mun1s7> pulpfiction: I just came in so sorry if I am jumping in. DId you check what my be blocking? IPTables, Router, NAT, etc . . .
[03:57] <crouton> ronocdh: See if this will help. http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/01/editing-fat32-partition-labels-using-mtools/
[03:58] <pulpfiction> MarcN: no, i'm not currently running mysqld
[03:58] <DShepherd> xsrvrx: what package do you want to install?
[03:58] <mark_> lol LjL
[03:58] <tvgm2> can anyone tell me how to get ctrl+alt+del to display system monitor in gnome?
[03:58] <ToHellWithGA> i'm having trouble with vi.  I'd like to edit some automatically generated files by removing some stupid bits.  I have a line like this: FILE "Metal Fingers - Metal Fingers Presents Special Herbs Volume 1 and 2 [2002] \02 - Metal Fingers - Arrow Root.wav" WAVE
[03:58] <mark_> pastebin tried to execute it as SQL
[03:58] <pulpfiction> i checked iptables, there are no rules there
[03:58] <MarcN> pulpfiction: well that could be why you can't connect to mysql from another system.
[03:58] <mark_> oh man
[03:58] <PetrolBomb> ANyone wanna help me with nfs sharing between two dappers?
[03:58] <LjL> mark_: ?!
[03:58] <mark_> give me a second :\
[03:58] <pulpfiction> i'll check the router
[03:58] <xsrvrx> start out with something like xchat or chatzilla?
[03:58] <[koji] > i don't see opera in the add/remove menu option
[03:58] <ronocdh> thank you crouton, i found this link too, but given that it explicitly states it's for FAT32, I assumed there was a different trick for VFAT. am I wrong about this?
[03:58] <mark_> Query failure: Table 'pastebin' was not locked with LOCK TABLES
[03:58] <mark_> insert into pastebin (poster, domain, posted, format, code, parent_pid, expires,expiry_flag) values ('Anonymous', '', now(), 'text', 'deb cdrom\:\[Ubuntu 5\.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 \(20051012\)\] / breezy main restricted\r\n\r\n\r\n## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network\r\n# deb http\://gb\.archive\.ubuntu\.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted\r
[03:58] <ToHellWithGA> i'd like to search and replace something containing quotation marks
[03:58] <NickGarvey> ToHellWithGA: try sed?
[03:59] <DShepherd> you want to install xsrvrx xchat?
[03:59] <ToHellWithGA> NickGarvey: never tried it
[03:59] <crouton> ronocdh: as far as i know it won't be too different
[03:59] <mark_> k, trying again LjL
[03:59] <crouton> ronocdh: so backup your data just in case. :)
[03:59] <sktx> anyone else having trouble getting on to ubuntuforums ?
[03:59] <LjL> mark_: what the... try the kubuntu pastebin, at... uh, at nowhere, it's not in the topic anymore :\
[03:59] <tvgm2> they're down
[03:59] <NickGarvey> ToHellWithGA: ah, well google it, sed is exactly what you want I think
[03:59] <sktx> ahh ok thx
[03:59] <NickGarvey> !sed
[03:59] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:59] <xsrvrx> yes dshepherd...theres more but i just need to get a general idea
[03:59] <MarcN> PetrolBomb: on one, edit /etc/exports and have nfsd running, on another system mount -t nfs 192.x.x.x/there /here
[03:59] <T313C0mun1s7> pulpfiction: I am not sure exactly what you are doing, but if it is trying to get any type of server daemon working on your computer you will need port forwarding rules in the router to get you through NAT.
[03:59] <ronocdh> no data, thanks! freshly formatted, about twenty minutes ago... just don't want to be writing to "ieee1394disk" =P
[04:00] <LjL> mark_: try one more time, if it still doesn't work use the #flood channel
[04:00] <eternalsword> can anyone help with a booting problem?
[04:00] <LjL> !anyone
[04:00] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:00] <DShepherd> xsrvrx: ok.. sudo aptitude install xchat-gnome.
[04:00] <mark_> http://nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=64881
[04:01] <[koji] > i don't see opera in the add/remove menu option, should it be in the std repos?
[04:01] <mark_> LjL,
[04:01] <mark_> see above
[04:01] <DShepherd> [koji] : no
[04:01] <xsrvrx> ok dshepherd, after i do that will xchat be listed on my GUI as a program i can execute?
[04:01] <tvgm2> tell me how to get ctrl+alt+del to display system monitor in gnome
[04:01] <TalentedChimp> i've installed all the Korean language support files I can find and still workgroup and computer names are displayed like ""
[04:01] <crouton> eternalsword: still having the same problem?
[04:01] <NickGarvey> !opera > [koji] 
[04:01] <eternalsword> yes
[04:01] <DShepherd> [koji] : you have to download it from the site
[04:01] <LjL> mark_: ooh, you're running breezy. you should specify that, most people here will assume you're running dapper. anyway, i know what the problem is
[04:01] <DShepherd> xsrvrx: yes.
[04:01] <xsrvrx> i already downloaded all packages
[04:02] <LjL> mark_: you simply have every line commented out except for the CD-ROM line. so only the packages that are on the CD-ROM can be installed
[04:02] <mark_> what would be the problem :O
[04:02] <crouton> eternalsword: did booting in safe mode give any further insight?
[04:02] <mark_> lol
[04:02] <mark_> okay
[04:02] <[koji] > press report says that i should be able to get it easily on add/remove menu option
[04:02] <mark_> I basicly uncomment them, right?
[04:02] <eternalsword> ESC didn't do anything in grub, but I could start in recovery mode, is that the same?
[04:02] <DShepherd> xsrvrx: here is a good place to learn how to install programs https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/add-applications.html
[04:02] <LjL> mark_: yes, remove the leading "# " from... everything that starts with "deb" or "deb-src"
[04:02] <tvgm2> how do i get ctrl+alt+del to display system monitor in gnome?
[04:02] <xsrvrx> thanks man, can i pretty much use that same command for all packages?
[04:03] <bjron> I must be blind, I can't find how to subscribe to the ubuntu weekly newsletter ??
[04:03] <crouton> eternalsword: yup
[04:03] <MarcN> tvgm2: you don't.
[04:03] <PointyThingsHurt> So nobody here is really fimilar with the WPC11 v4 wifi card huh
[04:03] <LjL> mark_: actually you might prefer to avoid activating backports. in that case, don't uncomment the lines that have "backports" in them
[04:03] <pulpfiction> T313C0mun1s7: yeah, i'm checking this site now ( http://www.portforward.com/ ), will see if that works
[04:03] <DShepherd> xsrvrx: yup.. you may need to enable some repositories first. read the link I gave you
[04:03] <tvgm2> marcN, i thought there was a command to set it
[04:03] <xsrvrx> will do, im on it now, thanks again
[04:03] <T313C0mun1s7> tvgm2 - there is a thread in the forums that explain how to do that, it is easy to find in a search (when the forums are not down)
[04:04] <LjL> mark_: after you've uncommented everything and saved, do "sudo apt-get update", and then install fluxbox
[04:04] <wile_coyote> anyone else having trouble getting fullscreen games to actually go fullscreen? dapper w/lnvidia drivers
[04:04] <tvgm2> t313, that's why i was asking it in here
[04:04] <jesse> sudo is asking for me for a password which won't let my type anything in i can't search the forums it says im not authorized
[04:04] <mark_> thanks for the help LjL
[04:04] <crouton> forums are down
[04:04] <ToHellWithGA> NickGarvey: sed -e 's/"Metal Fingers - Metal Fingers Presents Special Herbs Volume 1 and 2 [2002] \/"/g' temp.cue outputs sed: -e expression #1, char 82: unterminated `s' command
[04:04] <mark_> you're a real gentlemen
[04:04] <eternalsword> crouton: what exactly should I have been looking for?  the local script was all comments except for EXIT 0
[04:04] <mark_> :)
[04:04] <T313C0mun1s7> pulpfiction: what kind of router(s) are between your connection and your gateway
[04:04] <crouton> eternalsword: hmm, that's weird
[04:04] <wile_coyote> jesse: type YOUR password in
[04:05] <pulpfiction> T313C0mun1s7: dslink 220e
[04:05] <pulpfiction> http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/DSLink/200e/SSH.htm
[04:05] <fiveiron> what is the best tool for recording video from a v4l device?
[04:05] <pulpfiction> i'm reading this page
[04:05] <DShepherd> tvgm2: hey.. see if this helps you out
[04:05] <eternalsword> crouton:  it's a fresh install, not an upgrade
[04:05] <DShepherd> tvgm2: http://textsnippets.com/posts/show/268
[04:05] <jesse> wile_coyote: i tryed that but it doesn't work it doesn't allow me to enter characters only thing that works is enter
[04:05] <ToHellWithGA> does anybody know what sed means by "unterminated `s' command"?
[04:05] <PointyThingsHurt> jesse: It doesn't echo what you type
[04:05] <DShepherd> tvgm2: by the way.. google is your friend.. :-)
[04:05] <eternalsword> I even tried reformatting and installing again with the same results
[04:06] <crouton> eternalsword: strange. booting in safe mode should have given you more text to read, which might have helped narrow down the issue.
[04:06] <wile_coyote> jesse: what command are you using....exactly how you are using it?
[04:06] <fiveiron> anyone?
[04:06] <Shizboom> the built in remote server isn't that bad
[04:06] <hedonistic> I have a Dell E1505 laptop with a BCM4311 wireless card.  After installing a version of ndiswrapper other than the one available via synaptic, wlan0 is recognized (wifi led is on) and network manager sees my network (SSID is listed) but I am unable to connect.  I have spoken with many experienced linux users via irc/qunu and have tried various remedies suggested on forums and am still unable to connect to my wireless network.  If you think you may be able
[04:07] <tvgm2> DSheperd, d'oh!  i was   |          | this close to clicking that on my search
[04:07] <eternalsword> crouton: there were no problems when booting in safe mode.
[04:07] <crouton> eternalsword: the other thing you could try is to disable acpi when the machine boots.  You'd also do this in GRUB.
[04:07] <jesse> nvm after entering it about 4 times it finally let me through though i don't see why it didn't the first few times
[04:07] <tvgm2> thanks
[04:07] <crouton> eternalsword: oh really? booted fully to login prompt?
[04:07] <DShepherd> tvgm2: sure :-)
[04:07] <wile_coyote> jesse: hmm
[04:07] <DShepherd> tvgm2: let me know if that works
[04:07] <T313C0mun1s7> pulpfiction: unless that unit is also your modem, you may need to portforward from the modem as well. With Cable and a Motorola Surfboard modem you don't need to do anything, (cont)
[04:07] <Dasnipa> what do you need to do to access ubuntuforums.com?
[04:07] <Moocasso> Can anybody tell me how to set up a link to a terminal window to log in to the root terminal?
[04:07] <eternalsword> crouton: fully to root
[04:07] <offipso> I would just like to say that it is with great relief I found that Nautilus no longer acts 'spatial'
[04:07] <fiveiron> what is the best tool for recording video from a v4l device?
[04:07] <vem0m> Dasnipa: forums are down
[04:07] <crouton> eternalsword: very interesting. desktop or server install?
[04:07] <DShepherd> Dasnipa: i think the forums is down
[04:07] <T313C0mun1s7> but with a DSL modem you might. It is just easiest to forward EVERYTHING to your router.
[04:08] <DShepherd> Dasnipa: sorry
[04:08] <lessthn0> i'm having a problem finding streamtuner and streamripper that works
[04:08] <pulpfiction> T313C0mun1s7: yeah, it's my adsl modem :)
[04:08] <pulpfiction> hold on, i'll reboot the modem to commit the changes
[04:08] <tvgm2> DSheperd, nope, nothing pops up
[04:08] <eternalsword> server, should I have done desktop?
[04:08] <vem0m> suppossed to have been back up by now but its not
[04:08] <hbweb500> Does anyone know of a command I can use to play an alert sound via the command-line in Gaim 2?
[04:08] <Moocasso> Can anybody tell me how to set up a link to a terminal window to log in to the root terminal?  Is there an alteration I have to make to a normal terminal link?
[04:08] <LjL> hbweb500: "play"
[04:08] <eternalsword> I was wondering if it might have been the wrong setup
[04:08] <xsrvrx> dshepherd? still here?
[04:08] <Dasnipa> oh well that would explain that lol
[04:08] <crouton> eternalsword: no, just curious. usually desktop loads more stuff
[04:08] <wile_coyote> jesse: usually you type: sudo <command>      the it asks for a password....you type in YOUR password then it should run it as root
[04:08] <DShepherd> tvgm2: try restart the xserver
[04:09] <DShepherd> xsrvrx: maybe..
[04:09] <hbweb500> lJl: command not found
[04:09] <tvgm2> k brb
[04:09] <LjL> hbweb500: hm, i have it... let me see what packages it belongs to
[04:09] <xsrvrx> lol that worked but i have another question along the same lines
[04:09] <Shizboom> anyone have any idea what is up with the forums?
[04:09] <HackerX2> ~~Does anyone know if there is a WIFI finder that works with ndiswrapper?~~
[04:09] <LjL> hbweb500: it's in the "sox" package
[04:09] <Hobbsee> Shizboom: they broke, apparently
[04:09] <hbweb500> LjL: OK, thanks
[04:10] <T313C0mun1s7> All I know is they are down - so it is not you
[04:10] <Hobbsee> HackerX2: wlassistatn should
[04:10] <jesse> wile_coyote:  yeah it normally works just for some reason it didn't that time well im just getting used to all these extra security features in 6.06
[04:10] <Hobbsee> HackerX2: so should knetworkmanager
[04:10] <Hobbsee> HackerX2: *wlassistant
[04:10] <mark_> whats the command to kill Xserver?
[04:10] <eternalsword> crouton: actually to be more specific it has [ Ok ]  for the "Running local boot scripts" and then it stalls
[04:10] <wile_coyote> jesse: heh...yup...me too
[04:10] <DShepherd> xsrvrx: oh.. really.... hmmm sounds good
[04:10] <T313C0mun1s7> I think they have Apache misconfigured to think it need auth
[04:10] <Hobbsee> mark_: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm strop
[04:10] <Hobbsee> mark_: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[04:10] <mark_> thanks
[04:10] <Hobbsee> i cant spell today!
[04:10] <tvgm2> DSheperd, no go
[04:11] <crouton> eternalsword: with the forums down, i can't really help much other than to say boot into safe mode and keep digging
[04:11] <halitech> Hobbsee, does ctrl-alt-backspace do that as well?
[04:11] <Hobbsee> halitech: yeah, well, it restarts
[04:11] <xsrvrx> ok for instance bittorrent is a prog installed...but i can only find bittorrent once i attempt to open a file assosciated to it
[04:11] <mark_> Hobbsee,
[04:11] <mark_> that isn't working for me
[04:11] <wile_coyote> can somebody help me - I can't run games fullscreen in Dapper
[04:11] <mark_> it's coming up "unknown command"
[04:11] <mark_> :\
[04:11] <Hobbsee> [12:10]  <Hobbsee> mark_: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[04:11] <halitech> right, missed mark said kill it :(
[04:11] <LjL> Hobbsee: actually that would be /etc/init.d/gdm stop unless he's a kubuntu user
[04:11] <Hobbsee> oh hang on
[04:11] <Hobbsee> LjL: yeah, exactly
[04:11] <eternalsword> crouton: okay, thanks anyways.
[04:11] <lessthn0> does anyone know how to install streamtuner and streamripper and it work?
[04:12] <Hobbsee> mark_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:12] <nverhaar> does anyone know what the Ubuntu Server kernel does different to the regular kernel??
[04:12] <Hobbsee> LjL: thought i was in #kubuntu :P
[04:12] <LjL> Hobbsee: =)
[04:12] <bimberi> lol Hobbsee
[04:12] <Hobbsee> nverhaar: should be nothing at all - server is just ubuntu with no X.
[04:12] <DShepherd> xsrvrx: i assume you want to find the program again?
[04:12] <hbweb500> LjL: It seems that "play" doesnt play nicely with ALSA: I cant get simultaneous sounds
[04:12] <T313C0mun1s7> Forums are not asking for auth anymore - but they are in maintence mode. It is best if we don't all try them at once however.
[04:12] <pulpfiction_> T313C0mun1s7: can you try to connect on my ip by ssh?
[04:12] <Shizboom> !freenx
[04:12] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[04:12] <xsrvrx> i just like to know where things are and like to be able to see them when i want lol
[04:12] <crouton> ugh. forums look worse now
[04:13] <PetrolBomb> Shite,lol I need help setting up sharing folders between two dapper machines!
[04:13] <DShepherd> xsrvrx: ok.. have you check your applications menu.. Applications are usually under there...
[04:13] <LjL> Hobbsee: suggestion: you could advice people to type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop" :)
[04:13] <T313C0mun1s7> I am mainly a Windows guy, and have fully commited my PC to Ubuntu (5 weeks and going strong) give my your IP and I willl see if I can figgure it out.
[04:13] <Hobbsee> LjL: hehe true
, does wireless assistant do a scan and find ssid's or is it just checking to see if the ones in the list are active?
[04:13] <tvgm2> DSheperd, restarting x-server didn't fix it
[04:13] <LjL> hbweb500: uhm, i know there's "alsaplay" as well
[04:14] <crouton> PetrolBomb: go check https://wiki.ubuntu.com and look up NFS
[04:14] <jesse> PetrolBomb, right click the folder and go to share
[04:14] <DShepherd> tvgm2: hmmm sorry man.. I am out of ideas
[04:14] <xsrvrx> yes, nothing but raw installation and the new xchat i just installed
[04:14] <tvgm2> ok, thanks anyway
[04:14] <ToHellWithGA> i need to remove all instances of a string from a file.  how can i do that?
[04:14] <LjL> hbweb500: it's in "alsaplayer-common"
[04:14] <Hobbsee> HackerX2: i'm not sure.   iwlist wlan0 scan should search for more.
[04:14] <PetrolBomb> SHare with SMB jesse?
[04:14] <whiter> when i try to compile "plugger" it gives me this error
[04:14] <hbweb500> LjL: OK, just about to say... I have alsaplayer...
[04:14] <PetrolBomb> Only option I have
[04:14] <whiter> wheres a pastebin
[04:14] <LjL> !pastebin
[04:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:15] <DShepherd> xsrvrx: ok.. to to Apps - acces - Alcar....
[04:15] <crouton> ToHellWithGA: What, you don't remember CS2130?  Or do they call Languages and Translation something else now?
[04:15] <IcemanV9> bash: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/trip_points: Permission denied
[04:15] <DShepherd> xsrvrx: that allows you to control what shows up in your menus..
[04:15] <ToHellWithGA> crouton: i took 1321x in the fall of 2002
[04:15] <HackerX2> hobbsee, is there a script or can i write a script that will run a iwlist wlan0 scan every 5 or 10 secs
[04:15] <T313C0mun1s7> pulpfiction: nevermind I got it
[04:15] <nemik> so after upgrading cleanly from breezy to dapper, my via 8235 onboard sound card does not work. it is listed in lspci but simply refuses to produce ANY sound. can anyone please help? thank you
[04:15] <jesse> PetrolBomb: you need to have the packages download first but i normally just share with samba
[04:15] <LjL> HackerX2: you can use cron
[04:15] <ToHellWithGA> the x is for Xtreme (or maybe advanced) but i'm still an ME undergrad
[04:15] <pulpfiction_> T313C0mun1s7: oh, nevermind.. i sshed my university and then sshed back, it worked :D
[04:15] <HackerX2> ljl cron?
[04:15] <LjL> !tell HackerX2 about cron
[04:16] <DShepherd> xsrvrx: if you check you under the internet side.. you should see bittorent..
[04:16] <crouton> ToHellWithGA: ah, not CS. ok  I took 1321 back in summer of 99
[04:16] <HackerX2> oh ok thanks
[04:16] <pulpfiction_> spades, MarcN, T313C0mun1s7: thank you guys, got it working... it was the router
[04:16] <ToHellWithGA> old man.  i reckon you're out of school now
[04:16] <T313C0mun1s7> pulpfiction: how would I do that anyhow? From the term? Is there a good gui SSH program in the repos?
[04:16] <pulpfiction_> though it seems gaim is now timing out, but it probably has no relation hehe
[04:16] <nemik> has anyone had problems with AC97 sound on dapper?
[04:17] <crouton> ToHellWithGA: you young whippersnappers
[04:17] <spades> pulpfiction_  since its open it prone to scanning, so if you dont want it open all the time, remove it from startup and start it manually when you need it
[04:17] <pulpfiction_> T313C0mun1s7: you just type ssh user@ip on your console
[04:17] <pepperpot> Can anyone recommend a good guide for improving performance on ubuntu? I assume that there is in intrinsic reason that ubuntu is slower than, gentoo, if I recompile the kernel and whichever applications actually need to be fast
[04:17] <pepperpot> there is no*
[04:17] <xsrvrx> wow man, thanks very much
[04:17] <DShepherd> T313C0mun1s7: I usually go Places -- Connect to Server -- and choose ssh as the protocol.. works well
[04:17] <DShepherd> xsrvrx: sure..
[04:17] <ToHellWithGA> crouton: help me out brother.  i need to search and delete a string that will be of the form: "artist - title [year] \"
[04:17] <T313C0mun1s7> Thanks guys, gotta go.
[04:18] <DShepherd> xsrvrx: so now you can customize your menu to your liking
[04:18] <crouton> pepperpot: You could install a kernel that's tweaked to your hardware... -686, -k7, etc
[04:18] <nemik> so after upgrading cleanly from breezy to dapper, my via 8235 onboard sound card does not work. it is listed in lspci but simply refuses to produce ANY sound. can anyone please help? thank you
[04:18] <pulpfiction_> spades: ok, will do that.. thank you again :)
[04:18] <crouton> ToHellWithGA: search and replace? hmm
[04:18] <pulpfiction_> gotta go too, cya guys :)
[04:18] <ToHellWithGA> nemik: what chipset is the sound card based upon
[04:18] <ToHellWithGA> crouton: it's more a search and destroy thing
[04:18] <DShepherd> T313C0mun1s7: protocol == Server type
[04:18] <ToHellWithGA> i want the line minus that bit that does me no good
[04:18] <nemik> ToHellWithGA: a via8235 is what alsamixer tells me.
[04:19] <nemik> ToHellWithGA: a via8235, realtek alc202 rev 0
[04:20] <crouton> ToHellWithGA: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Linux/Q_10515858.html#1
[04:20] <ToHellWithGA> i only know how to help with ICE=based cards.  sorry :(
[04:20] <ToHellWithGA> you did not just link to experts exchange
[04:20] <crouton> oh yes i did
[04:20] <HackerX2> Can some one write a cron file to run "iwlist eth1 scan" every 5 sec???
[04:20] <ToHellWithGA> i'm not paying for linux help
[04:20] <Shizboom> anyone have experience using a windows freenx client with ubuntu freenx server?
[04:20] <WelfareQueen> Not even in virtual dollars?
[04:21] <crouton> ToHellWithGA: It's already answered, son. :)
[04:21] <crouton> first two comments have pretty solid sed scripts
[04:22] <fdsd> hey guys, How do I run an bash script as root from my .bash_profile? Do I set suid on it? and if so how?
[04:22] <ToHellWithGA> i don't want to replace though, i want to delete
[04:22] <ToHellWithGA> and that site wants me to register
[04:22] <crouton> so make the replace string blank
[04:22] <buggyx> wow
[04:22] <crouton> ToHellWithGA: http://www.gabeanderson.com/life/2003/02/20/unixlinux_find_replace_in_multiple_files.php
[04:22] <buggyx> Lots of people
[04:22] <Shizboom> anyone have a clue to this error "Killed by signal 15."?
[04:22] <LjL> HackerX2: uh sorry i didn't think of that, but afaik cron doesn't allow scheduling at *seconds* granularity, only minutes
[04:22] <HackerX2> ** Does anyone know if theres any chance of getting Kismet to work with Ndiswrapper? **
[04:22] <buggyx> Can anyone give me a hand with a X issue ?
[04:22] <HackerX2> ok yea
[04:22] <HackerX2> i did think so
[04:22] <HackerX2> didnt
[04:23] <LjL> HackerX2: a quick script that doesn't use cron, on the other hand, could look like     while true; do sleep 5; iwlist eth1 scan; done
[04:23] <RadiantFire> LjL: you are correct, since the cron daemon only wakes up once every minute
[04:23] <DShepherd> buggyx: just ask your question. someone if they can.. will answer
[04:23] <HackerX2> Ljl, can kismet work with ndiswrapper?
[04:23] <HackerX2> and chance at all
[04:23] <HackerX2> ?
[04:23] <LjL> HackerX2: haven't the slightest idea
[04:23] <LjL> i don't have wireless
[04:24] <buggyx> I think (not sure) it was cause by a recent update
[04:24] <Dial_tone> what is the service that starts portmap? it doesn't appear to be starting on boot so my nfs drives don't load. strangely though sometimes they will map 20-30 minutes after booting
[04:24] <fdsd> anyone know?
[04:24] <buggyx> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[04:24] <buggyx> Thats the error in xorg.log
[04:24] <buggyx> Just a recent thing
[04:24] <HackerX2> ljl, ok thaks i did the while true; do sleep 5; iwlist eth1 scan; done thing and it seems to work but again im not sure if its just testing my ssid or finding new ones ill have to take a drive to find out
[04:25] <buggyx> Randomly locks X up
[04:25] <LjL> HackerX2: that's really out of my realm...
[04:26] <HackerX2> Ljl, alright thanks for your help
[04:26] <amr> hi fellows
[04:26] <buggyx> hello
[04:26] <amr> i've installed postgresgl
[04:27] <amr> what's the role defined by installation ,i've tryed root and my user account
[04:27] <amr> ??
[04:28] <HackerX2> *** Kismet+ndiswrapper= Any chance of this working? ***
[04:28] <buggyx> DShepherd any idea yourself ?
[04:28] <DShepherd> buggyx: nope...
[04:29] <Redrose> !kernel
[04:29] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:29] <cyphase> has anyone else used the "motion" program in the repos?
[04:29] <HackerX2> How Long Does A Ban Last On This Channel?
[04:30] <starpause> i was Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 LTS and got a message: "A fatal error occured. Please report this as a bug ..." where and who do i report this bug to?
[04:30] <cyphase> until it's removed
[04:30] <ToHellWithGA> are there folks in here who actually have used sed?  my output is identical to my input and i can't figure out why
[04:30] <Moocasso> Okay, I MUST be doing something wrong.  I have a .deb file for a firefox addin.  (For more info, it's to hopefully get Firefox to play .wav files, it wont' do it for some reason).  I'm trying to install it, so from the console, I go to the location where the file is and type apt-get install mozilla-plugin-vlc_0.8.5.debian-2_i386.deb, the results are Reading package lists... Done
[04:30] <Moocasso> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:30] <Moocasso> E: Couldn't find package mozilla-plugin-vlc_0.8.5.debian-2_i386.deb
[04:30] <Moocasso> Any ideas?
[04:31] <buggyx> ToHellWithGA, out of 774 people probly
[04:31] <ToHellWithGA> buggyx: i'd hope so.  ryan@ryan-ubuntu606:/largedrive/CD_Rips$ sed 's/Metal Fingers - Metal Fingers Presents Special Herbs Volume 1 and 2 [2002] //g' temp.cue
[04:31] <ToHellWithGA> can you see why that expression wouldn't find everything between the first two slashes and replace it with nothing?
[04:32] <Moocasso> anybody?  Any ideas for a n00b would be greatly appreciated :(
[04:32] <vem0m> FORUMS ARE BACK UP!
[04:33] <guiss> hi guys, I have a friend whom I am trying to fix his ubuntu remotely. He says Openoffice just closes everytime he opens. Is there any known bugs or any known place where I can check logs?
[04:34] <xpc> hi
[04:34] <xpc> !hu
[04:34] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[04:34] <vem0m> guiss: check the forums
[04:35] <lilo> will do, and thanks!
[04:35] <lilo> oops
[04:35] <guiss> vem0m, i can't seem to find a well suited search string
[04:35] <EdLin> Moocasso: for an individual deb use dpkg. By the way, you really should use apt-get to install it from a repository. (It might be in multiverse.)
[04:36] <vem0m> guiss: hld on
[04:36] <jcole> anyone here know about gnome-terminal and TERM types?
[04:36] <EdLin> Moocasso: no, actually its in universe.
[04:36] <efox> hey ppl
[04:37] <Moocasso> Er...I'm a n00b
[04:37] <buggyx> Ok any ideas what /dev/wacom is for ?
[04:37] <CokeNCode> oops
[04:37] <CokeNCode> right, where was i
[04:37] <kaot> buggyx: touchpad, maybe
[04:37] <EdLin> !universe
[04:37] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:37] <CokeNCode> hey, ammm, i just went to play some streaming video, and i got the error 'either you don't have the latest flash player installed or you have javascript turned off'
[04:37] <Moocasso> ty
[04:37] <buggyx> Kaot could it be for USB ?
[04:37] <CokeNCode> i have installed flash
[04:37] <ToHellWithGA> buggyx: i think its for art tablets
[04:37] <vem0m> i liked the old forums
[04:37] <kaot> buggyx: dunno, could be.
[04:37] <CokeNCode> can anyone point me in hte right direction ?
[04:37] <buggyx> I can't figure what I need it for
[04:37] <ToHellWithGA> pressure sensitive wacom-branded tablets
[04:38] <buggyx> But its all over the xorg config
[04:38] <EdLin> CokeNCode: Linux flash is a version behind.
[04:38] <kaot> buggyx: look under the desk, maybe you've got some hardware you forgot about :\
[04:38] <psx1337> Quick question. If I got one of those macbooks with intel core duo, does that work under the uh.. x86 distros of linux?
[04:38] <CokeNCode> EdLin, crap ... so what do i do ?
[04:38] <CokeNCode> i thought they fixed that today ?
[04:38] <vem0m> guiss: try search string openoffice crash
[04:38] <CokeNCode> aw fudge
[04:38] <buggyx> All I can figure is its built in
[04:38] <ToHellWithGA> psx1337: it should work under 686 smp
[04:38] <buggyx> But this is a recent issue
[04:39] <vem0m> guiss: as i dunno ur exact issue and errors u search that and maybe it wil find what u need
[04:39] <buggyx> I have been using ubuntu since hoary
[04:39] <buggyx> And never had this issue before
[04:39] <CokeNCode> can anyone else view any videos at pornotube.com ?
[04:39] <CokeNCode> :/
[04:39] <psx1337> ToHellWithGA, in english does that mean it should work under the x86 version?
[04:39] <psx1337> :P
[04:39] <ToHellWithGA> CokeNCode: is that really on-topic for here?
[04:39] <CokeNCode> ToHellWithGA, kinda ...
[04:39] <ToHellWithGA> psx1337: "x86" yeah
[04:40] <vem0m> ohhhh an guiss make sure u have the newest Open office
[04:40] <CokeNCode> it's a linux issue
[04:40] <psx1337> Thanks I'm a pinhead :\
[04:40] <ToHellWithGA> it's a porn issue lol
[04:40] <psx1337> Oh my
[04:40] <caturOK> hello
[04:40] <guiss> vem0m, i've ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and nothing
[04:40] <ToHellWithGA> psx1337: are you getting a new lappy?
[04:40] <caturOK> why my nocat can't find my iptables
[04:40] <guiss> vem0m, so I assume it's up to date
[04:40] <wolfherd> Hi, All
[04:40] <CokeNCode> ToHellWithGA, yeh, i had reservations about asking it, but i figured why not just come out in hte open and be honest, might get my problem solved quicker
[04:40] <CokeNCode> we're all adults here
[04:41] <CokeNCode> well, some of us
[04:41] <caturOK> why if i run 'make gateway' from source nocat, the nocat can't find my iptables
[04:42] <caturOK> somebody can help me about this case
[04:42] <vem0m> guiss:  wel try that search string and see what it brings u
[04:42] <redir> and the adults are the ones not dicussing porn on #ubuntu
[04:42] <ToHellWithGA> CokeNCode: you'd be surprised how many people in this channel either aren't of legal porn-viewing age
[04:42] <ToHellWithGA> or are grown enough to keep their talk here clean
[04:42] <wolfherd> I use dapper, but i can not use sudo !   "sudo: unable to lookup qceben via gethostbyname()"
[04:43] <wolfherd> Any one can help me ??
[04:43] <CokeNCode> redir and ToHellWithGA well, fair enough. I honestly would've rather not mention the site, but I wanted to make my problem easier to diagnose
[04:43] <CokeNCode> I dunno, I figured it was a 'gray area'
[04:43] <CokeNCode> :/
[04:43] <ToHellWithGA> CokeNCode: i've had the same flash problem with band websites
[04:43] <RepoMan> quit
[04:43] <ToHellWithGA> give it time, i'm sure development will catch up
[04:43] <caturOK> do our here know about nocat
[04:44] <CokeNCode> ToHellWithGA, ok ... well, thanks for the help. Sorry if I offended anyone.
[04:44] <chip42> CokeNCode: didn't offend me
[04:44] <bimberi> !hostname
[04:44] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly
[04:44] <kaot> caturOK: what's nocat?
[04:44] <bimberi> wolfherd: ^^^^^ - you'll probably have to work on that in recovery mode
[04:44] <caturOK> nocat is hotspot billing
[04:44] <caturOK> is free
[04:45] <caturOK> license gpl
[04:45] <konfuzed> ooooo in a couple of weeks I can install ubuntu on this ibm thinkpad 770 with no screen
[04:45] <kaot> caturOK: url?
[04:45] <caturOK> nocat.net
[04:45] <wolfherd> i wil  have a try
[04:45] <wolfherd> thanks
[04:45] <kaot> caturOK: which ver you using?  nocatauth or nocatsplash?
[04:45] <caturOK> or u can find at www.personaltelco.net/index.cgi/PortalSoftware
[04:45] <konfuzed> best of all it will over write that crappy accounting software
[04:46] <caturOK> nocatauth
[04:46] <caturOK> i use dapper linux
[04:46] <xsrvrx> anyone help me with .tar files?
[04:46] <caturOK> but nocat can detect my iptables
[04:47] <pm2> Hi - where can I install codecs for Windows media files, eg, wma?
[04:47] <nalioth> !tar
[04:47] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)
[04:47] <nalioth> !multimedia
[04:47] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies | For multimedia applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[04:47] <wolfherd> thanks^^ bimberi
[04:47] <DShepherd> xsrvrx: what about the tar files?
[04:48] <pm2> nalioth, that first url isn't working
[04:48] <whiter> my sound card is no longer being detected
[04:48] <whiter> how can i fix that
[04:48] <bimberi> wolfherd: yw :)
[04:48] <konfuzed> wow NASA has a truly secure wifi hot spot http://www.nas.nasa.gov/Resources/Networks/wireless_paper.html
[04:48] <kaot> caturOK: it can or can't detect it
[04:49] <caturOK> can't detect
[04:49] <kaot> caturOK: keep in mind iptables mostly requires root privs to do anything
[04:49] <caturOK> it
[04:49] <caturOK> i read some tutorial
[04:49] <caturOK> nocat not supported kernel 2.6
[04:49] <nalioth> !restricted > pm2
[04:49] <caturOK> but supp kernel 2.4
[04:49] <caturOK> is true or not
[04:50] <pm2> nalioth, thanks, I found it
[04:51] <kaot> caturOK: oh i see it.  instead of looking for iptables it checks your kernel version.
[04:51] <pm2> second question:  I need to have at least a 2.6.18 kernel for some driver support.  Is there an easy way to upgrade via a binary package, or will I have to compile on my own.  Is there are "ubuntu-way" for kernel config and compiling?
[04:51] <kaot> caturOK: you could trick it to get past that part by just editing nocatauth/bin/detect-fw.sh
[04:52] <chip42> pm2: you can use the debian way to compile the kernel, since ubuntu is debian based.
[04:52] <kaot> caturOK: don't know how far you'd get beyond that point though
[04:52] <matusbraga> My amule is closing alone in the night, what i do?
[04:53] <caturOK> i have editing detect-fw.sh
[04:53] <caturOK> i run it with no error
[04:53] <caturOK> but same problem
[04:53] <ToHellWithGA> for everyone who tried to help me with sed, i found my problem.  everything in an expression passed to sed or vi must have escape characters for spaces and the like
[04:53] <flipfone> could anyone answer a question about Synaptic?
[04:53] <caturOK> my kernel still default
[04:53] <matusbraga> My amule is closing alone in the night, what i do?
[04:54] <kaot> caturOK: what i'm saying is, there's a test there to check for kernel version 2.4.  change it to check for kernel version 2.6.  the file is in the nocatauth source directory, bin/detect-fw.sh
[04:54] <chip42> pm2: google will have something for sure. its very convenient. in the end you have a binary kernel package you can add / remove through package management
[04:54] <pm2> chip42, yeah, I remember doing it a while ago... definately easy, I just don't remember the exact procedure off hand.  I'll google.
[04:55] <caturOK> kaot : sory is my english is poor
[04:55] <matusbraga> My amule is closing alone in the night, what i do?
[04:55] <kaot> matusbraga: stay up and babysit?   I dunno, mine runs fine
[04:56] <rafael-ec> hi, I have a problem with ssh. I can do ssh from my lan, but not from my external interface.
[04:56] <DShepherd> kaot: heheheeeh
[04:56] <DShepherd> kaot: nice!
[04:56] <rafael-ec> I have no firewall at all for the external interfase
[04:56] <DShepherd> rafael-ec: you have the the ssh server installed on both machines?
[04:56] <kaot> rafael-ec: well, if you're running sshd and want to be able to connect to it, it's a bad idea not to firewall your external if
[04:57] <efox> im having trouble using wput to upload some files
[04:57] <kaot> rafael-ec: but i see what you're saying.  do a sudo netstat tupan | grep sshd and see what IP it's listening on
[04:57] <matusbraga> kaot, he closed and i get up he is close.
[04:57] <rafael-ec> I now, I would enable the firewall after I can connect throw ssh
[04:57] <kaot> netstat -tupan, that should be
[04:57] <efox> the command im usng is 'wput PDA.txt ftp://username:password/directory/
[04:57] <kaot> remember the dash
[04:57] <caturOK> kaot : thanx for u know i run make gateway is success
[04:58] <efox> oops...
[04:58] <kaot> caturOK: good deal
[04:58] <quicoju_> how do i reinstall all xorg packages  without having to reinstall them one by one?
[04:58] <efox> ftp://username:password@host/directory
[04:58] <kaot> rafael-ec: oh btw, how are you connected to the internet?  thru a router?
[04:58] <starpause> i reported the fatal error durring upgrade to 6.06 on the forum, if anyone has ideas on another place to report it just shout ... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1222453&postcount=3
[04:59] <caturOK> heheheee
[05:00] <efox> anyone use wput ?
[05:00] <kaot> neg.
[05:02] <edan> hi all
[05:03] <rafael-ec> kaot the ubuntu machine is the router and it has an external ip
[05:03] <rafael-ec> it is listening port 22
[05:04] <edan> noob alert here. transferring data to my MP3 player and it seems to be at usb 1 speeds. how can I check what speed the usb ports are installed as?
[05:04] <isai> I finished upgrading from breezy to dapper. Now my wireless NIC and touchpad scrolling no longer work. Any idea how to fix the wireless NIC?
[05:04] <kaot> rafael-ec: what IP is it listening on?  0.0.0.0?
[05:04] <kaot> isai: uhoh.   that's a good one.  i ran into that myself.  what kind of nic?
[05:04] <rafael-ec> ::::22
[05:05] <isai> kaot, netgear MA401
[05:05] <kaot> isai: hm.  were you using ndiswrapper before?
[05:05] <jesse> Hey are there any ubuntu sound wizards here?
[05:05] <isai> I automatically worked when I first installed breezy.
[05:05] <isai> no, I did NOT use ndiswrapper
[05:05] <kaot> isai: oh.  slightly different problem from what I had then
[05:06] <isai> do you think I could just reinstall the kernel drivers ? How would I do that?
[05:06] <rafael-ec> what was your problem?
[05:06] <kaot> rafael-ec: what happens when you try to connect?
[05:07] <kaot> rafael-ec: my problem was i was using ndiswrapper and the upgrade installed the native wireless card driver for me, which doesn't work for my card
[05:07] <kaot> so i had to undo all that.
[05:09] <jesse> my headphones have crakling in them only in ubuntu
[05:09] <efox> anyone use wput ?
[05:10] <efox> i can get connected however my file does not transfer
[05:10] <efox> anyone ?
[05:10] <jesse> i can also hear sound coming through them when there is no audio playing
[05:12] <gleesond> I hosed my gnome session and can't log back in. what .files do I need to delete to start fresh?
[05:14] <olrrai> how can I install an mp3 codec?
[05:14] <gorski> howdy how, love you all!
[05:14] <slavezero> www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:14] <dr_willis> !mp3
[05:14] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:14] <dr_willis> gleesond,  the .gnome* dirs and perhaps the .gtk* dirs
[05:15] <slavezero> that guide shows all dvd and mp3 and anything else
[05:15] <olrrai> ok
[05:15] <gleesond> dr_willis: I already deleted .gnome* and it didn't help
[05:15] <slavezero> does anyone know why my apt will not update keeps telling me the connection failed yet i can browse there with firefox
[05:16] <gleesond> dr_willis: things started to go south when messing with my theme... but /me is not sure what dir that stuff is in
[05:16] <sloucher> gleesond how about making a new user with useradd
[05:16] <joeljkp> anyone know was gcc's -W option does?
[05:17] <gorski> i have a problem with java applets in firefox
[05:17] <isai> can someone please tell me how to do an 'apt-get update' to work?
[05:17] <hcjc92> well, i just reinstalled ubuntu, cause i have a bunch of kubuntu junk that i coulnd't get rid of
[05:17] <hcjc92> and i got xdm and fluxbox
[05:17] <dr_willis> gleesond,  not sure. the .gnome* and .gtk* dirs are in your home dir. just rename them or delete them. it wil reset gnome back to its defaults
[05:17] <hcjc92> when i say startx it doesn't work....
[05:18] <neighborlee> ok THIS is weird..I 'm trying to ADD my dvd to 'respositores' in synaptic..it 'scanned' the dvd fine, but now its HANGING on trying to 'unmounting  CD-ROM' ??????
[05:18] <hcjc92> isai: sudo apt-get update
[05:18] <gleesond> sloucher: i can use my account without x so I'm pritty sure its salvageble
[05:18] <isai> I just upgraded from breezy to dapper, and now my wireless NIC nor touchpad doesn't work. What is wrong???
[05:19] <hcjc92> if i'm in the terminal, no X running, just the terminal in server what key combo goes to a new terminal?
[05:19] <hedonistic> Anyone know if its possible to change the settings of an application/folder icon so that it launches with one click instead of two (similar to the default setting in kde, at least the suse version)?
[05:19] <Ackeubu_> Hey anyone used refDB as reference databas? I belive the deb packege they refer to on their homepage is either removed or unavilible.
[05:20] <olrrai> a good music player for ubunto?
[05:20] <olrrai> ubuntu
[05:20] <rsk> amarok
[05:20] <Ackeubu_> olrrai, rythembox
[05:20] <PointyThingsHurt> xmms :p
[05:20] <edan> beep
[05:20] <sloucher> hedonistic:  open nautilus and go to edit preferences then the behavior tab
[05:20] <joeljkp> can someone tell me what gcc's -W option does?
[05:20] <Ackeubu_> olarrai winamp
[05:21] <hcjc92> whats the defualt root password
[05:21] <olrrai> winamp on vm
[05:21] <gleesond> dr_willis: it was the .gtk*
[05:21] <gleesond> thanks
[05:21] <bruenig> y
[05:21] <stpere> !root
[05:21] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:22] <hedonistic> thanks sloucher
[05:22] <hcjc92> stpere was that at me, cause i want to login as root, not sudo
[05:22] <stpere> hcjc92, define the root password yourself using sudo passwd root
[05:22] <hcjc92> oh :) thanks
[05:22] <Ackeubu_> olrrai http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Winamp_3_for_Linux/1002748075/1
[05:23] <NilType> Hey, I have a tv card installed in my Ubuntu server, how would I go about providing TV to the computers on my network?
[05:23] <edan> then change your login window settings so you can log in as root
[05:23] <sloucher> and forget root - sudo does everything
[05:23] <Moocasso> I don't suppose anybody knows an easy way to get Firefox to play a bloody wav file?
[05:23] <jesse> ok ive removed the crackling from songs but there is still a hissing sound when there is now sound playing i can't figure out how to stop it ive adjusted as many options as i could think of
[05:23] <bruenig> Moocasso, mplayer does it I believe
[05:23] <NickGarvey> Moocasso: mplayer-plugin?
[05:23] <Ackeubu_> Anyone used refDB?
[05:23] <Moocasso> Thankyou!
[05:23] <Moocasso> Thankyou thankyou thankyou thankyou thankyou thankyou thankyou!
[05:24] <edan> heh. Automatix is very noob-friendly I think. sorts a lot of stuff out for the simple desktop user
[05:24] <bruenig> edan, uhoh
[05:24] <hcjc92> i have xdm and flux, and i assume i need to get x11, but, how do i do that (startx doesn't work, no x11)
[05:25] <edan> bruenig, I know. but a friend of mine wanted to switch to Linux and it was FAR easier to use Automatix in his case
[05:26] <Moocasso> edan: Automatix...? What's that? Lol
[05:26] <ardchoille> Moocasso: lol
[05:26] <bruenig> edan, I used it too, i was commenting about the onslaught that i assumed was going to follow
[05:26] <edan> than to sit there on the frigging phone for hours trying to help him
[05:26] <edan> oh
[05:26] <edan> thought it was a "automatix is for retards" thing. heh
[05:27] <hcjc92> how does one get x11, cause i don't have it :)
[05:27] <keleus> help! in xubuntu, my menu has gone all goofy! everything has been replaced by "(null)" except a few system options!
[05:27] <bruenig> i could have done it all manually, but what is the point
[05:27] <sloucher> automatix saved a lot of time
[05:27] <Moocasso> Lol, it's too bad I'm enjoying trying to get Linux working, 'cause I feel like such a n00b
[05:27] <edan> which it probably is. I actually think one of the things that will help get ppl to move from Windows to Linux would be solid write support for NTFS
[05:27] <chip42> its a cludge. it will screw up your system eventually
[05:27] <dr_willis> automatix  has trashed a lot of systems also. :)
[05:27] <Barkley> #rubyonrails
[05:28] <bruenig> automatix does trash systems, I used it right after install to get the plugins and w32codecs and libdvdcss and such and then uninstalled it
[05:28] <bruenig> if it broke my system, I could just reinstall
[05:28] <hcjc92> startx says that there isn't a /etc/X11/X where do i get x11
[05:28] <bruenig> nothing lost
[05:28] <slavezero> has anyone had any trouble connecting to apt sources every time i try sudo apt-get update it fails horribly
[05:28] <jesse> Hmmm the hissing sound only seems to be preset when the computer isn't doing anything major if i minimize something the hissing sound goes away for a split second
[05:28] <keleus> well crap, looks like im screwed (far as xubuntu goes...)
[05:28] <dr_willis> jesse,  sounds like interance from the motherboard almost.
[05:28] <jesse> present*
[05:29] <sloucher> slavezero: I had trouble with apt-get using a proxy server - do you have a proxy server?
[05:29] <slavezero> nope
[05:29] <jesse> dr_willis: yes but it has only happend once ive installed ubuntu it works fine in windows
[05:29] <sloucher> slavezero: you get any errors
[05:29] <slavezero> i can browse there with firefox no problem
[05:29] <slavezero> oh yeah
[05:29] <hcjc92> wait, what is /etc/X11/X ?
[05:29] <slavezero> on every connection
[05:29] <lessthn0> why am i getting this ?????   admin@admin-desktop:~$ apt-get install streamtuner
[05:29] <lessthn0> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:29] <lessthn0> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[05:29] <IcemanV9> hcjc92: sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg
[05:30] <dr_willis> jesse,  could be some mixer settings are maxed out.  Other then that - not sure what else to even check
[05:30] <NickGarvey> lessthn0: .. sudo...
[05:30] <hcjc92> thanks icema
[05:30] <hcjc92> n
[05:30] <lessthn0> NickGarvey: i am completely new to this .... i'm pretty sure i've tried both?
[05:31] <lessthn0> ok i just did that and it did the same thing :(
[05:31] <bruenig> letthno, you have to do sudo, apt-get install streamtuner
[05:31] <slavezero> pasted term to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17382
[05:31] <jesse> dr_willis: nope nothings maxed out pcm was maxed out but i realized that when the sound was crackling and ive fixed that but still the hissing sound
[05:31] <bruenig> sudo apt-get install streamtuner
[05:31] <bruenig> no comma
[05:32] <NickGarvey> lessthn0: sudo apt-get install something
[05:32] <NickGarvey> lessthn0: also make sure you don't have synaptic open
[05:32] <hcjc92> IcemanV9, i just did that and then startx and then, it complained about not being able to open a font... and crashed, what do i need to do to make it run flux
[05:32] <jesse> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60139&highlight=hissing+idle seems this person here has the same problem but i don't want to use such a crewd sollution
[05:32] <lessthn0> which " something" would be good to install for trying
[05:33] <slavezero> gftp
[05:33] <lessthn0> yes synaptic is closed
[05:33] <bruenig> anything
[05:33] <NickGarvey> lessthn0: something would be whatever you are trying to install
[05:33] <bruenig> lessthn0, just pick something and then sudo apt-get remove something right after doesn
[05:33] <IcemanV9> hcjc92: you need to create .xinitrc to run fluxbox
[05:33] <bruenig> 't matter what
[05:33] <hcjc92> oh....
[05:33] <slavezero> sloucher: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17382 here are the errors i get
[05:34] <edan> is it just me or is Linux terrible when it comes to fints and kerning?
[05:34] <lessthn0> this is what i get
[05:34] <lessthn0> admin@admin-desktop:~$ sudo admin@admin-desktop:~$ apt-get install streamtuner
[05:34] <lessthn0> sudo: admin@admin-desktop:~$: command not found
[05:34] <lessthn0> admin@admin-desktop:~$ E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:34] <lessthn0> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[05:34] <lessthn0> admin@admin-desktop:~$ E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[05:34] <edan> when changing system fonts, if I drop to sie 8, kerning is completely screwed
[05:34] <stpere> lessthn0, try sudo apt-get install streamtuner
[05:34] <olrrai> any program to create a bootable iso?
[05:34] <hcjc92> IcemanV9, it still dies cause it can't find a font
[05:34] <lessthn0> i have a user log as well and tried that then i went back to admin thinking it would help
[05:34] <hcjc92> maybe i need to not have more than one terminal open
[05:34] <hcjc92> brb
[05:34] <Moocasso> Okay, so I installed the m-player plugin for Firefox, and now I can't even view web pages that have .mp3s in them, FF just closes.
[05:35] <bruenig> lessthn0, make sure synaptic is closed and make sure the update manager is closed, and do sudo apt-get install streamtuner
[05:35] <stpere> lessthn0, sudo and apt-get install on the same line
[05:35] <sloucher> slavezero: I see your post, I'm not much help. I did get similar errors with a proxy. Why don't you check with the menu's System, Preferences, network proxy and make sure nothing is there.
[05:35] <lessthn0> ok thank you for all your help............. it sure is needed will try that
[05:35] <gorski> i have a problem with java applets in firefox, fill forms are not shown well!
[05:35] <gorski> i have a problem with java applets in firefox, fill forms are not shown well!
[05:36] <Moocasso> Oh, and pages with .wav files still won't play the sounds >.>
[05:36] <IcemanV9> hcjc92: check if the fonts path still exists - /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts
[05:36] <slavezero> sloucher: it is set for direct connection i think i will just reinstall i had no problems the first time i did this on this laptop
[05:36] <slavezero> sloucher: thanks for the help
[05:36] <jesse> augh the sound is driving me insane
[05:36] <lessthn0> for some strange reason streamripper installed for me but not streamtuner
[05:37] <bruenig> !info streamtuner
[05:37] <ubotu> streamtuner: A GUI audio stream directory browser. In repository universe, is extra. Version 0.99.99-5ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 581 kB, installed size 2064 kB
[05:37] <bruenig> lessthn0, do you have the extra repositories ienabled?
[05:37] <lessthn0> yes i went in synaptic and did that
[05:37] <rixth> How can I make totem play wmv?
[05:38] <rixth> It plays some wmvs, but not others
[05:38] <lessthn0> because i can't seem to get anything in the terminal to do anything
[05:38] <slavezero> can someone paste their source list to the paste site for me
[05:38] <saik0> rixth, It cant play DRMed wmvs
[05:38] <dr_willis> !easysource
[05:38] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:38] <bruenig> rixth, you need w32codecs, but you better not if you are in the US because it is illegal
[05:38] <xmanii> does anyone have an invite to demonoid that I can get off them?
[05:38] <edan> heh. I found a little bug in ubuntu. if I run symaptic not as root the warning that opens says "Not runing as root"
[05:38] <IcemanV9> lessthn0: why don't you install streamtuner via synaptic then?
[05:38] <slavezero> ubotu: thats is where i got the one i am using
[05:38] <edan> "runing"
[05:38] <bruenig> xmanii, i can get you one
[05:38] <bruenig> slavezero, ubotu is a bot
[05:38] <xmanii> oOo
[05:39] <olrrai> gorski: http://getswiftfox.com/
[05:39] <rixth> saik0, bruenig I have that package. I am using totem-xine. These are not drm'd. mplayer can play them.
[05:39] <slavezero> oh yeah
[05:39] <slavezero> lol
[05:39] <jesse> bruenig: really? how can you find out if it is illegal in your country?
[05:39] <xmanii> can I PM you bruenig?
[05:39] <lessthn0> are you saying it sould be listed in synaptic? it isn't
[05:39] <lessthn0> i dunno how
[05:39] <fdsd> hey guys, is there a way to run a script as root from the users .bash_profile? suid maybe?
[05:39] <IcemanV9> lessthn0: then universe is not enabled :/
[05:40] <lessthn0> hmm
[05:40] <lessthn0> how do i do that ?
[05:40] <IcemanV9> !tell lessthn0 about repo
[05:40] <lessthn0> thank you
[05:40] <IcemanV9> uh? did you get message from ubotu?
[05:41] <saik0> If I use LVM on a single volume and my system becomes unbootable would it take heroic effort to access my data from a Live CD?
[05:42] <lessthn0> so i have to re install ?
[05:42] <olrrai> any program to create a bootable iso?
[05:42] <bruenig> rixth, i had totem-xine, just use something else, is there any reason why you need to use totem-xine
[05:42] <bruenig> hate*
[05:42] <Linuturk> Running xubuntu 6.06 on a Dell Dimension 8100 with a usb wireless card (recognized as rausb0) that works great on another machine using the same wireless card with xubuntu 6.06. When I try to activate the wireless card via the gui, it locks up xubuntu
[05:42] <lessthn0> yes IcemanV9 i got the msg.........
[05:42] <lessthn0> and was reading that you have to enable " universe "
[05:43] <lessthn0> that means i have to re install ubuntu?
[05:43] <bruenig> lessthn0, no
[05:43] <Hexidigital_> Linuturk:: same kernel version?
[05:43] <rixth> bruenig, I like it, it's the best for me, it's easy to use etc. I think its only wmv v9 that doesn't play
[05:43] <Linuturk> Hexidigital_, same exact cd
[05:43] <lessthn0> good then
[05:43] <IcemanV9> lessthn0: no, just modify the source.list to enable universe
[05:44] <Hexidigital_> Linuturk:: did you do any updates on one machine and not the other?
[05:44] <slavezero> how would i reinstall gzip
[05:44] <lessthn0> ok ty i will try that then
[05:44] <saik0> slavezero, sudo apt-get install gzip
[05:44] <Linuturk> Hexidigital_, nope, it worked right out of the box on the other machine
[05:44] <hcjc92> okay, i just tried startx (again) and it still won't work, it crashes about the font "fixed"
[05:44] <slavezero> lol well apt-get is not working reinstalling gzip may fix any other way
[05:45] <IcemanV9> lessthn0: once you done modified it, then sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude install streamtuner
[05:45] <Linuturk> Hexidigital_, why would it lock up on one machine, and not the other? running the same xubuntu 6.06 ?
[05:45] <jesse> lol i fixed the hissing sound i leave rythem box in another workspace paused there is no hissing not a great way to fix the problem but works :D
[05:45] <Hexidigital_> Linuturk:: not sure, looking something up for you
[05:45] <lessthn0> ok thank you
[05:46] <IcemanV9> hcjc92: can you paste the error to pastebin?
[05:46] <Linuturk> Hexidigital_, I only have access to a wireless network for internet at my apartment, so thanks
[05:46] <hcjc92> IcemanV9, i would, but, i'm in a terminal, and i can't....
[05:46] <hcjc92> like, i don't have any GUI
[05:47] <IcemanV9> hcjc92: ah. ok.
[05:47] <hcjc92> when i installed ubuntu-desktop and said startx everything was fine
[05:47] <hcjc92> but, i've installed xdm fluxbox and xserver-xorg and startx won't work
[05:48] <hcjc92> any ideas?
[05:48] <dr_willis> hcjc92,  could just use the normal console login and startx.
[05:48] <IcemanV9> hcjc92: wait a minute .. you installed ubuntu-desktop? then you only need to install fluxbox
[05:48] <Hexidigital_> Linuturk:: in terminal, sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[05:48] <dr_willis> hcjc92,  and whats your .xinitrc file look like?
[05:48] <hcjc92> no. i haven't installed ubuntu-desktop
[05:48] <hcjc92> that was on a different install
[05:48] <Kilopopo> whats the commandline to reinstall installed packages???????
[05:49] <IcemanV9> hcjc92: oh. ok. gotcha. yeah. did you create .xinitrc like i said earlier?
[05:49] <hcjc92> dr_willis, startfluxbox
[05:49] <Hexidigital_> Kilopopo:: apt-get reinstall {package}
[05:49] <Linuturk> Hexidigital_, let me restart it, it was frozen
[05:49] <hcjc92> yeah
[05:49] <Hexidigital_> Linuturk:: ok
[05:49] <Linuturk> I've never had it freeze up
[05:49] <Linuturk> :/
[05:49] <Hexidigital_> Linuturk:: may be a bad install... not sure...
[05:49] <Kilopopo> Hexidigital_, ok but what about all installed packages?
[05:49] <sloucher> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[05:50] <dr_willis> hcjc92,  could just try 2 lines,    xterm &, and fluxbox
[05:50] <Hexidigital_> Kilopopo:: not sure, but there is a command to get a text list of all installed packages
[05:50] <Hexidigital_> Kilopopo:: not sure of the command though
[05:50] <Linuturk> ok Hexidigital_
[05:50] <IcemanV9> hcjc92: i don't know about startfluxbox (never saw it) try exec fluxbox or dr_willis' suggestion
[05:50] <MrKeuner> hi, I have installed a package named w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb adn mplayer can now play wmv 9 files but it looks like xine and vlc cannot see them. How can I show these new codecs to xine? thanks
[05:51] <Linuturk> Hexidigital_, i used mousepad instead of nano
[05:51] <Moocasso> Okay, I think I got mplayer installed, but it doesn't seem to have fixed my issue where .wav files won't play on web sites.  Now, if it makes a difference at all, the example web site I'm trying to get to work at this moment is http://nedmxp.ytmnd.com
[05:51] <Hexidigital_> Linuturk:: that's fine... what are the devices listed in that file?
[05:51] <Linuturk> loopback and the wireless
[05:51] <Linuturk> i got an ethernet too, but I haven't configured it yet
[05:52] <Hexidigital_> Linuturk:: what's the name of the wireless? wlan0 or the one you said before?
[05:52] <dr_willis> I always MADE a script that started up fluxbox for my systems called 'startfluxbox' :) never seen one allready made
[05:52] <Linuturk> rausb0
[05:52] <Hexidigital_> Linuturk:: is network-admin installed in xubuntu? (i use gnome)
[05:52] <Linuturk> yeah
[05:52] <Linuturk> when I try to activate it via the network admin
[05:52] <Hexidigital_> Linuturk:: is that what freezes?
[05:52] <Linuturk> it locks it up everytime
[05:52] <aunes> I just got my ipod.. I can mount it and all, but amarok can't read it.  I've been reading and apparently I need to enable HFS support in my kernel. I don't know how to do that. Help?
[05:53] <dr_willis> !ipod
[05:53] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[05:53] <hcjc92> IcemanV9, i still get unable to open defualt font "fixed" any idea?
[05:53] <aunes> thanks
[05:53] <Hexidigital_> anyone know how to fix the network-admin applet? (i'm trying to help Linuturk )
[05:54] <Linuturk> Hexidigital_, i set the ssid, there is no WEP, DHCP, hit ok, try to activate, and it locks up everything
[05:54] <Moocasso> Can anybody help with my issue?  :(
[05:54] <Hexidigital_> *network-admin applet freezes xubuntu
[05:54] <tom_> ok i've got som issues happening here. I'm trying to install Dapper on my PowerBookG4. It's only letting me use 640x480 resolution, which means the installer window doesn't fit ont he screen, and I can't click the buttons at the bottom. how can i make the system realise it can use a higher res?
[05:54] <Linuturk> gnome too Hexidigital_
[05:55] <IcemanV9> hcjc92: for the test purpose, try sudo startx
[05:55] <Hexidigital_> linuxboy:: wait, you are running gnome on xubuntu?
[05:55] <hcjc92> i am su but i'll try anyway
[05:55] <Linuturk> i've installed ubuntu first, and it froze up
[05:55] <Linuturk> then xubuntu, and it's freezing too
[05:55] <IcemanV9> hcjc92: ha. then you don't have to sudo once you're su. :)
[05:55] <NickGarvey> is the syntax to pull out a single file from an archive "tar xvf archive file"?
[05:56] <keleus> how do i check what CFLAGS and LDFLAGS i should be using for my ubuntu system?
[05:56] <Hexidigital_> Linuturk:: and you did not do any updates?
[05:56] <hcjc92> IcemanV9, goes to a black screen then dies, could not open default font "fixed"
[05:56] <Linuturk> Hexidigital_, no updates. I can't w/o a wireless connection
[05:57] <IcemanV9> hcjc92: is there any fonts in /usr/share/X11/fonts ??
[05:57] <TalentedChimp> Moocasso: have you installed mplayer-plugin?
[05:57] <Moocasso> yes
[05:57] <Hexidigital_> Linuturk:: i know this defeats the purpose of what you are trying to do, but i suggest finding a spot where you can plug into an ethernet port, and run the updates... your laptop is fairly new, correct?
[05:57] <hcjc92> IcemanV9, welp, there isn't a fonts folder there :|
[05:58] <Linuturk> it's a desktop
[05:58] <Hexidigital_> Linuturk:: oh, so it works on your laptop and not desktop?
[05:58] <MrKeuner> I have installed a package named w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb adn mplayer can now play wmv 9 files but it looks like xine and vlc cannot see them. How can I show these new codecs to xine? thanks
[05:58] <TalentedChimp> Moocasso: what does "about:plugins" in Firefox show you?
[05:58] <Linuturk> Hexidigital_, it's a dell dimension 8100, DESKTOP, and this wireless adapter via usb works with another desktop running ubuntu 6.06 out of the box. for some odd reason, it isn't working with this desktop
[05:58] <Moocasso> er...?
[05:59] <Hexidigital_> Linuturk:: my apologies, i misunderstood
[05:59] <Redrose> i have a toshiba, and i do modprobe toshiba_acpi, but it says error inserting toshiba_acpi:no such device... does this mean i need to recompile the kernel with toshiba_acpi support build in
[05:59] <TalentedChimp> in the address bar of Firefox type "about:plugins" (without quotes)
[05:59] <IcemanV9> hcjc92: ah.
[05:59] <Linuturk> Hexidigital_, how would i have it activate the wireless via terminal?
[05:59] <Moocasso> Oh...it's not there
[05:59] <Moocasso> /cry
[06:00] <hcjc92> IcemanV9, ah... that sounds bad... where do i get hte fonts?
[06:00] <Hexidigital_> sudo /etc/network/if-up.d, Linuturk
[06:00] <TalentedChimp> there is a package called mplayer-plugins, it should put the plugins into your mozilla directory
[06:01] <IcemanV9> hcjc92: apt-cache search xfonts ... will give you the list of fonts, but i don't remember which package will install basic fonts for Xorg
[06:02] <Redrose> i have a toshiba, and i do modprobe toshiba_acpi, but it says error inserting toshiba_acpi:no such device... does this mean i need to recompile the kernel with toshiba_acpi support build in
[06:02] <hcjc92> IcemanV9, there are alot of fonts!
[06:02] <Hexidigital_> Linuturk:: what happened?
[06:02] <hcjc92> and i can't read them all....
[06:02] <Linuturk> comman not found
[06:03] <hcjc92> cause in an ugly large screen terminal
[06:03] <Linuturk> Hexidigital_, command not found
[06:03] <Hexidigital_> Linuturk:: ??? hang on
[06:03] <IcemanV9> hcjc92: apt-cache search xfonts | more .. it will slow down for ya :)
[06:04] <Hexidigital_> Linuturk:: try ifup or ifdown
[06:04] <atrophic> I'm on the live cd and double clicking the install icon doesn't do anything.  Any ideas what could be wrong?
[06:04] <hcjc92> IcemanV9, xfonts-base maybe?
[06:04] <IcemanV9> hcjc92: anyway, i believe misc, cyrillic, 100dpi, 75dpi, Type1 are basic xfonts
[06:05] <IcemanV9> hcjc92: not sure
[06:05] <atrophic> I'm also getting errors when I try to access any of the hard drives.  The error is drive is not removable, could not execute pmount.
[06:05] <Linuturk> Hexidigital_, exact syntax?
[06:05] <Hexidigital_> Linuturk:: sorry... ifup {cardname}
[06:06] <gleesond> anyone in here know how to get the flash to work in opera
[06:06] <gleesond> ?
[06:06] <ruxpin_> is it possible to get wine 0.9.16 from some repository, or via apt-build? to my understanding compiling by hand messes things up real bad with binary distros
[06:07] <atrophic> If I try to manually run the command that the install icon runs (which doesn't work), I get this error: ** (gksudo:7079): WARNING **: Could not load desktop file: No such file or directory
[06:08] <IcemanV9> hcjc92: i just looked at what it was installed on my box - xfonts-100dpi, xfonts-75dpi, xfonts-base, xfonts-scalable, xfonts-utils, xfontsel
[06:08] <Hexidigital_> Linuturk:: i am very sorry that i couldn't help you fix your wireless, but i
[06:08] <Hexidigital_> Linuturk:: i am very sorry that i couldn't help you fix your wireless, but i'm out of battery power
[06:08] <TalentedChimp> ruxpin: could you not use the 'alien' command in dpkg or apt-get?
[06:09] <root_> gah, why didn't my naim close
[06:09] <ruxpin_> TalentedChimp: wine 0.9.9 is ancient. I wonder why there's not a newer one available
[06:10] <hcjc92_> evil naim
[06:10] <Linuturk> can you specify a ssid via ifup?
[06:10] <DonL>  I have a question about choosing apps to open events. I really like Gnome but I've never been able to sort that problem out. I know if you download it to a folder, and then right click on it, and choose the app you want to open it with, theoretically, it should do that automatically next time, but I haven't had that experience. Can anyone help me with that?
[06:10] <Linuturk> can you specify a ssid via ifup?
[06:10] <hcjc92_> icemanv9: i got flux to run, i just needed to grab xfonts-base
[06:11] <TalentedChimp> ruxpin, you can use dpkg alien packagename.rpm in CLI i think
[06:11] <TalentedChimp> ruxpin, it will reconfigure an rpm into a .deb and install on the fly
[06:11] <ruxpin_> aha
[06:12] <IcemanV9> hcjc92_: hip hip hooray :D
[06:12] <YesDad> yo
[06:12] <atrophic> Linuturk, check out the man page for iwconfig, it'll configure your wireless connection where ifup just brings it up
[06:12] <lessthn0> thank you it worked
[06:12] <lessthn0> :)
[06:12] <hcjc92_> shot! nautilus just messed fluxbox up
[06:12] <hcjc92_> gah!
[06:12] <Linuturk> does anyone have any idea why this wireless adapter will work on one machine running ubuntu 6.06, and not another machine running ubuntu 6.06?
[06:12] <hcjc92_> i can't t get hte fluxbox menu
[06:13] <atrophic> Linutark, same card?
[06:13] <Linuturk> same exact usb adapter
[06:13] <atrophic> in what way is it not working?
[06:13] <YesDad> you tell me
[06:13] <sponix> anyone know of a printer thats easy to make work ?
[06:14] <DonL> Linuturk, last resort, switch cards?
[06:14] <ruxpin_> sponix: check linuxprinting.org
[06:14] <sponix> ruxpin:  thanks
[06:14] <Linuturk> WUSB54G v4   ............  it's recognized and installed just like before, but when I try to configure it via the network-admin, it locks up the system
[06:14] <Linuturk> no mouse movement or keyboard
[06:14] <Linuturk> DonL, don't have another card
[06:14] <DonL> Linuturk, card seated properly?
[06:14] <Linuturk> DonL, USB adapter
[06:15] <DonL> Ah
[06:15] <Linuturk> tried several ports
[06:15] <Gareth> tried different USB ports?
[06:15] <Gareth> ...
[06:15] <Gareth> one step ahead of me
[06:15] <Linuturk> works fine in a different desktop
[06:15] <Linuturk> running same version of ubuntu
[06:15] <DonL> Kinda sounds hardwarish to me
[06:15] <sponix> Linuturk:  uncle has a USB11v4 linksys, if you plug/unplug while the system's up it freezes the box, have to make sure its hooked before boot
[06:16] <Linuturk> it is hooked before boot.
[06:16] <olrrai> kiso works on ubuntu ?
[06:16] <DonL> Linuturk, have you tried hooking up after boot?
[06:17] <Linuturk> nope
[06:17] <DonL> Try that
[06:17] <TalentedChimp> is there a gui tool for samba configuration in gnome?
[06:18] <hcjc92_> what file browser thingy should i use?
[06:18] <bur[n] er> TalentedChimp: right click, share?
[06:18] <ruxpin_> TalentedChimp: I don't think so
[06:18] <TalentedChimp> not share config, samba server config
[06:18] <atrophic> TalentedChimp, SMBrowser is one, I think
[06:18] <bur[n] er> is gedit a gui? ;)
[06:18] <ruxpin_> TalentedChimp: gvim /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:18] <n9urk> can anyone help me with getting the plugins for Totem?
[06:18] <TalentedChimp> ok thanks
[06:18] <n9urk> do I do that via apt-get?
[06:19] <ruxpin_> atrophic: can smbbrowse configure a server? I thought is was a client-side program
[06:19] <atrophic> n9urk, search the forums for 'easy ubuntu' or 'automatix', both of which will help you get the codecs installed, if that is indeed what you're asking.
[06:20] <atrophic> ruxpin_, it is a client side, I guess I misunderstood the question
[06:20] <n9urk> atrophic:  that I shall do.  I think that will answer my question
[06:20] <n9urk> atrophic:  Thanks!
[06:21] <dbmata> hey, is anyone here comfortable troubleshooting an nvidia driver install issue?
[06:21] <DonL> n9urk, there's also mozilla plugins in apt-get
[06:21] <Linuturk> if there isn't a WEP key, shouldn't I leave it on Hex and leave the field blank in the network admin?
[06:21] <tritium> dbmata: did you install the ubuntu packages?  did you follow the wiki page?
[06:21] <Gareth> hm, cat /proc/meminfo showing an incorrect amount of memory is probably a kernel issue right?
[06:22] <atrophic> double clicking install on livecd does not bring up anything, typing the command in a terminal gives an error (Could not load desktop file).  Anybody have an idea of how I can get this installed, (aside from the alternate cd, which is my next venture)?
[06:22] <dbmata> tritium: I did follow the wiki page, and I would like to say yes to having installed the ubuntu packages, but I'm not sure.
[06:22] <Gareth> atrophic, check the MD5 sum of the CD
[06:22] <Gareth> might have been corrupted in download
[06:22] <dbmata> Tritium: I went through the downloading of nvidia-glx.
[06:23] <Linuturk> dammit
[06:23] <Linuturk> locked up again
[06:23] <tritium> dbmata: as long as you didn't use a download from nvidia.com
[06:23] <Linuturk> it's locked up again
[06:23] <atrophic> Gareth, I did that before I burned it, and had the burning program check the integrity of the disk as well.
[06:24] <dbmata> tritium: right, I didn't, I used synaptic. When I try to run the -config enable, I get an error.
[06:24] <tritium> dbmata: what's the error?
[06:24] <linopil>  I am reading about NFS file sharing https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[06:24] <n9urk> atrophic:   The forum gave a bad link to automatix.  Do you know of a real one? http://beerorkid.com/arnieboy/automatix_6.1_i386.deb
[06:24] <Gareth> atrophic, personally I used the alternate CD (I just have a yearning for blue screens) so I can't really help any more than that
[06:25] <dbmata> tritium: want me to paste the error, or give the shorthand?
[06:25] <linopil> wht its prefered for nfs ?   Manual password file synchronization   or   Use of LDAP    or  Use of NIS   ?
[06:25] <nf4> dose any one in here use folding at home
[06:25] <tritium> dbmata: pastebin please
[06:25] <Dial_tone> I don't like mplayer plugin
[06:25] <bruenig> IRC > channels
[06:25] <dbmata> tritium: dbmata@stigmata:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config disable
[06:25] <dbmata> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[06:25] <dbmata> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[06:25] <dbmata> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[06:25] <dbmata> command:
[06:25] <dbmata> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[06:25] <dbmata> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[06:25] <dbmata> from nvidia to nv.
[06:26] <tritium> !pastebin > dbmata
[06:26] <tom_> so is anyone able to help me get my screen resolution higher than 640x480, so that I can actually install off the live cd install without having to download another 700mb disk image?
[06:26] <atrophic> n9urk, That directory seems to have a couple versions in it still.  http://beerorkid.com/arnieboy/
[06:26] <dbmata> tritium: ?? that I don't know... I definitely didn't want what happened though.
[06:26] <tritium> dbmata: okay, well that's fairly self-explanatory.  Go ahead and change nv to nvidia manually
[06:27] <tritium> dbmata: next time use pastebin please ;)
[06:27] <linopil> tom_ been there yesterday done that
[06:27] <atrophic> Gareth, thanks for trying to help.  Looks like the alternate cd will be my route as well
[06:27] <dbmata> tritium: just got the link to a pastebin page. Never heard of it before, sorry.
[06:27] <n9urk> atrophic: tnx
[06:27] <tom_> it didnt work yesterday
[06:27] <tritium> dbmata: no problem
[06:27] <linopil> Tom_
[06:27] <atrophic> I figured if it had to not work on either my laptop or my desktop it would be my laptop, but I was wrong :/
[06:27] <linopil> alternet CD burn and install from there
[06:28] <tritium> alternate?
[06:28] <nf4> yeah i still have resilution issues within the bios but I followd the wiki and got it correct within the opterating system
[06:28] <n9urk> atrophic:  I found some more updated info at /www.getautomatix.com
[06:28] <linopil> yeah alternative CD
[06:28] <Gareth> atrophic, you're welcome - just remembering, I too had problems running the install from liveCD - random crashes, etc ( my playing tetris might have impeded it?)
[06:28] <DonL> tom, what's limiting you to 640x480? Is it your card or monitor?
[06:28] <dbmata> tritium: since I'm not sure how to actually manually edit anything, is there a walk through in the wiki?
[06:28] <atrophic> tom_, try graphic safe mode from the livecd's boot options?
[06:28] <tritium> dbmata: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:29] <linopil> tom_ text install from alternative CD is the answer
[06:29] <linopil> !alternate
[06:29] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.
[06:29] <tom_> yeah, i was just hoping i wouldn't have to do alternate cd
[06:29] <linopil> no pain there
[06:29] <tom_> because i can't handle another 700mb download on my ISP quota this month
[06:29] <atrophic> n9urk, thanks for the info.  As soon as I can get ubuntu installed on this desktop I was going to go find automatix again ;)
[06:29] <linopil> sorry about that ask a friend
[06:29] <tom_> already had to redownload a disk image that corruped for my AMD64 install
[06:30] <NickGarvey> !automatix
[06:30] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[06:30] <tom_> thank you for the help though :)
[06:30] <nf4> what isp do you have i never heard of any one limiting how much you can download that new to me
[06:30] <dbmata> tritium: what do you know. Thank you. Sorry for the flooding. (I haven't been this confused by an os since my first jump into DOS back in the day.)
[06:30] <tritium> atrophic: you'd be better off with easyubuntu rather than automatix
[06:30] <tom_> nf4, if i go over 10gb in a month i get cut back to 64kbps
[06:30] <tritium> dbmata: you'll learn.  In fact, it's easier than windows, so you'll have no troubles.  :)
[06:30] <tom_> i have a terrible ISP
[06:30] <linopil> tom_ in what country ?
[06:30] <nf4> who is it?
[06:30] <tom_> australia
[06:31] <tom_> BigPond
[06:31] <nf4> oh i see
[06:31] <devhen> tom: the server iso is only 430 mb
[06:31] <dbmata> tritium: I like it much better than my failed attempt at debian a couple years back.
[06:31] <nf4> australia has nice ladys and good beer
[06:31] <dbmata> and surfing.
[06:31] <linopil> alternative desktop ISO
[06:31] <dbmata> good surfing
[06:31] <kaot> did jimmy kimmel really just get bit by a freakin rattlesnake?
[06:31] <jesse> tom_ bigpond is bad but aleast it is not as bad as iprimus
[06:31] <atrophic> tritium, why would I be better off with easy ubuntu? I tried both on my laptop, but easy ubuntu was in its infancy at that point.  Feel free to take the answer to PM since it's a bit off topic.
[06:31] <linopil> and is down under and far away
[06:32] <tritium> dbmata: glad to hear that :)
[06:32] <nf4> i dont understand this folding@home stuff
[06:32] <kaot> (OT, i know, i'll shut up.)
[06:32] <tritium> atrophic: it's not detrimental to your system's health in the way that automatix can be
[06:32] <n9urk> NickGarvey:  who does the editing of ubotu's files?  Who can add the url to automatix? www.getautomatix.com
[06:32] <DonL> tom, that's more and more common. We'll all pay for bandwidth soon I think
[06:32] <nf4> you can run the exe just fine but there are two ubuntu pages that explain a log process to set it up
[06:32] <tom_> jesse: well that's true
[06:32] <nf4> which isnt needed i dont think
[06:33] <tom_> DonL: I know it's common. BigPond is terrible for other reasons
[06:33] <dbmata> oh, figure I'll ask here while I'm breaking this config file... does anyone use the logitech g15 or the mx 1000 mouse? I noticed that there aren't any drivers offered by logitech, just curious if that is to be expected.
[06:33] <tom_> namely I pay $70 a month for 512/128 and 10gb quota.
[06:33] <nf4> primus is a good band
[06:33] <nf4> les claypool is great
[06:33] <Madpilot> n9urk, this channel isn't going to encourage the use of Automatix...
[06:33] <NickGarvey> n9urk: you can, it will be a suggestion and then an OP will have to approve it
[06:33] <jesse> tom_: :O when was the last time you updated your plan? you should always check ever 4 months and update it
[06:33] <tom_> about a month ago
[06:34] <tom_> maybe it's $60
[06:34] <tritium> !enter
[06:34] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[06:34] <jesse> tom_: 60 is about right thats how much mine costs and i get 2 gig more heh.
[06:34] <tom_> it's my partner's ISP account... he has no idea about computer. He saw Telstra and throught it must be ok
[06:34] <n9urk> Madpilot: Why is that?  Is there some fault(s) in automatix?  I know very little about it (as in 10minutes worth of knowledge)
[06:35] <n9urk> atrophic:  Got the codec going.  Thanks
[06:35] <jesse> tom_: oh how was he wrong. The best company atm would be iinet they seem to be doing all the advancing in internet down here
[06:35] <Madpilot> n9urk, supposedly it's getting better, but there have been system-killing faults in that script for a long time - and problems with the former developer...
[06:35] <atrophic> n9urk, good to hear
[06:35] <n9urk> Madpilot: Thanks, I will have to read up on that on a forum somehwere
[06:35] <tom_> that's what i'm switching to. I live in Perth, where they're based, and I live less than a km away from the 2nd biggest exchange in the state. SO i should get some nice ADSL2+ speeds
[06:36] <tritium> tom_: ISP chat is a better topic for #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:36] <jesse> tom_: yeah that would be nice i live a fare distance away from the exchange near me i was still going to get it for its cheaper prices but the dslam was full
[06:37] <runes> jesse ever thought of going wireless boradband
[06:37] <runes> broad
[06:37] <dbmata> tritium: I just did that edit, and I'm getting the same error. Thoughts? (It still says I need to change "Driver" from nv to nvidia.)
[06:38] <jesse> runes: wireless, what steal someone elses bandwith? lol we don't have wireless internet coverage here
[06:38] <dbmata> tritium: think I should remove and reinstall the driver package?
[06:38] <xsrvrx> can anyone tell me what to look under to get ndiswrapper in synaptic?
[06:38] <tritium> dbmata: no.  If you edit it by hand, you don't re-run the script
[06:38] <runes> jesse there are a few companies that are encouraging you to become a wireless provider in certain areas
[06:38] <runes> the startup is about 700 dollars
[06:38] <kaot> xsrvrx: ndiswrapper-utils
[06:38] <runes> but you become the hub
[06:38] <tritium> runes: please take it to -offtopic
[06:38] <kaot> xsrvrx: just sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[06:39] <tom_> jesse: head into #ubuntu-offtopic so as not to anger the ISP gods
[06:39] <dbmata> tritium: oh, ok. now I'm confused.
[06:39] <runes> sorry Trinisan
[06:39] <xsrvrx> ty
[06:39] <tom_> *IRC
[06:39] <runes> tritium,
[06:39] <tritium> runes: we're cool, and thanks :)
[06:39] <Phoul> hello. If i wanted to add a program to my gnome session how would i go about doing that
[06:39] <Phoul> i want to add "gimmie" to my gnome session
[06:39] <Phoul> I tried the 2 things i could think of
[06:39] <jesse> tom_: i didn't know such channel existed lol, ill join that next time i gtg clean house
[06:40] <Phoul> to run gimmie i need to go into /home/phoul/Desktop/gimmie and run gimmie.py
[06:40] <Phoul> but how would i have that start on boot?
[06:40] <Moocasso> I"m having trouble installing the mplayer plugin.  Every time I try to install it I get 'Error: Dependency is not satisfiable:  mplayer|mplayer-custom|mplayer-386|mplayer-586|mplayer-686|mplayer-k6|mplayer-k7|mplayer-powerpc|mplayer-g4|mplayer-nogui.'  I found mplayer and mplayer-custom but any time I try to install either of them, I get 'Error: Failed to satisfy all dependencies (broken cache).'  Any ideas?
[06:40] <Phoul> i have /home/phoul/Desktop/gimmie/gimmie.py in my session but it dont start the program
[06:41] <Shizboom> how would i go about getting sudo libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2?
[06:42] <Phoul> anyone know?
[06:43] <Hobbsee> Phoul: maybe try ./Desktop/gimmie/gimmie.py
[06:43] <Moocasso> Anyone have any ideas?  I'm stumped...
[06:43] <xsrvrx> Kaot? now how to find the program? and run it?
[06:44] <Hobbsee> Moocasso: try sudo aptitude clean && sudo apt-get update, then try again?
[06:44] <Phoul> nope that didnt owrk
[06:44] <Phoul> work*
[06:45] <Cornellius> "To start e just insert 'exec /opt/e17/bin/enlightenment' in your .xinitrc,
[06:45] <Cornellius> .xsession or wherever you define that.
[06:45] <Cornellius> "
[06:45] <Moocasso> k, thankyou
[06:45] <kaot> xsrvrx: ndiswrapper -i <file>
[06:45] <asdf25> so i just changed my hostname by changing /etc/hostname then running "sudo hostname <new host name>", and now sudo doesn't work, it exits with an error saying it can't resolve my new host name, because i hadn't added it to /etc/hosts yet... any ideas?
[06:45] <kaot> xsrvrx: you trying to get a wireless card running?
[06:45] <Phoul> Cornellius, any ideas on my little issue?
[06:45] <xsrvrx> yes sir, unfortunatly i think im SOL, how do i find that in the gui?
[06:46] <xsrvrx> or can i?
[06:46] <Cornellius> "To start e just insert 'exec /opt/e17/bin/enlightenment'  in your .xinitrc, .xsession or wherever you define that."  <-- How do I do that ?
[06:46] <kaot> xsrvrx: I recommend heavy googling, to be honest.  what kind of cardd?
[06:47] <kaot> Cornellius: unnecessary if you install via apt, just log out of your current session, and in dapper, click on options in bottom left of login screen
[06:47] <xsrvrx> i have 2 a wireless usb and a pci, the usb freezes my box when i attempt activation
[06:47] <kaot> Cornellius: then "change session"
[06:47] <Moocasso> Hobbsee: same issue, any other ideas?
[06:47] <Cornellius> kaot: I did compile all of it
[06:47] <Hobbsee> Moocasso: hmm.  no.  did you check out !mplayer
[06:47] <Hobbsee> !mplayer
[06:47] <ubotu> No fonts in mplayer? Install mplayer fonts. Codecs: see !codecs
[06:47] <asdf25> anyone have any ideas how i can get sudo working again? if there's a way to add hostname->ip entries that i can do as a non-root user that would do it... like an env variable... anyone know of anything like that? i can't edit /etc/hosts cause sudo doesn't work
[06:48] <Hobbsee> asdf25:
[06:48] <kaot> Cornellius: oh yeah e17 duh.  I shoulda caught that.  so you compiled it from source?
[06:48] <kaot> xsrvrx: do you need both?
[06:48] <Moocasso> !mplayer??
[06:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about mplayer??
[06:48] <Hobbsee> asdf25: i think you'll have to reboot, go into recovery mode, and nano /etc/hosts from there.
[06:48] <Cornellius> kaot: Yep
[06:48] <kaot> xsrvrx: I was you I'd just lose the usb one
[06:48] <Hobbsee> !mplayer > Moocasso
[06:48] <Moocasso> Lol
[06:48] <xsrvrx> lol no, one or the other would be nice
[06:48] <Cornellius> sudo kate ,xinitrc  got it
[06:48] <Phoul> Anyone know how i could add a program to my gnome-session thats located in /home/phoul/Desktop/gimmie
[06:49] <Phoul> To run the program i have to go into the directory and run the .py
[06:49] <asdf25> Hobbsee: yeah... looks like i'll probably ahve to do that... wanted to avoid it cause i don't have a monitor or keyboard connected to it
[06:49] <kaot> Cornellius: shouldn't have to sudo that, just create a ~/.xsession i think
[06:49] <kaot> Cornellius: unless you're doing it in /etc/X11/blahblah
[06:49] <Hobbsee> asdf25: um, okay
[06:49] <asdf25> yeah, so now you know
[06:49] <kaot> xsrvrx: yeah so i'd ditch the usb one.  what kind of card is the pci?
[06:50] <asdf25> thanks
[06:50] <kaot> xsrvrx: and are you sure there's no native driver for it?
[06:50] <xsrvrx> linksys wmp11 ver2.7
[06:50] <Shizboom> after i add a repository to /etc/apt/sources.list what else do i need to do to make it availible?
[06:50] <xsrvrx> no im not actually
[06:50] <Wallakoala> Shizboom sudo apt-get update
[06:50] <Shizboom> thanks
[06:51] <kaot> xsrvrx: try iwconfig
[06:51] <damion_> hello al
[06:51] <damion_> hello all
[06:51] <xsrvrx> have
[06:51] <kaot> xsrvrx: nothing?
[06:51] <xsrvrx> i swear i been on google all day
[06:51] <kaot> yeah
[06:51] <kaot> had that problem with mine :\
[06:52] <kaot> xsrvrx: linksys wmp11 ver 2.7 is how it identifies in lspci?
[06:52] <kaot> or is that just what the card says?
[06:52] <damion_> is there a good linux program that is like windows movie maker
[06:52] <xsrvrx> just what card says
[06:52] <kaot> how bout lspci?
[06:52] <Wallakoala> damion_ you might want to try Kino
[06:52] <xsrvrx> havent tried that
[06:52] <kaot> xsrvrx: that should tell you what chipset it's got
[06:53] <damion_> what video format can kino read
[06:53] <xsrvrx> ok just type that in terminal and itll tell me?
[06:53] <kaot> xsrvrx: yeh, just look for network controller
[06:53] <Wallakoala> damion_, I really am not sure. It would be best to try it out yourself.
[06:53] <xsrvrx> k ill check it out
[06:54] <kaot> xsrvrx: lspci | grep -i net
[06:54] <damion_> do u use it i am just asking
[06:55] <Wallakoala> damion_ I have not actually used kino, I just know it is a movie editor that is supposed to be easy to use
[06:56] <damion_> thanks
[06:57] <firebird619> Hi, I just received Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake CDs in the mail today. (I order them rather than dowload because I have dial-up) I put the CD in the computer, but I do not get an option to upgrade to 6.06. I am running 5.10 now. How do I upgrade to 6.06?
[06:57] <Shizboom> this whole freenx thing is so confusing :P
[06:58] <mrkoje> I did my first PXE install the otherday... very nice too
[06:58] <kaot> firebird619: I think there's a way to use the update manager and point it at the cd.  check the forums?
[06:58] <mrkoje> I thought it would be a little harder then it actually was
[06:59] <Wallakoala> firebird619, when you put the cd into your drive while breezy is running, what happens?
[07:00] <firebird619> Wallakoala: It brings up the contents of the CD in the File Browser
[07:00] <xsrvrx> Kaot:  Broadcom Corporation BCM4303 802.11b Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[07:00] <kaot> xsrvrx: was afraid of that.  :\
[07:01] <xsrvrx> rofl
[07:01] <Wallakoala> firebird619 I would strongly suggest checking out www.ubuntuforums.org . I think you might have better luck there
[07:01] <kaot> xsrvrx: broadcoms notorious for being a pain in the backside.  that's what mine is.
[07:01] <kaot> xsrvrx: slightly different chipset tho
[07:01] <MoxJet> anyone know the system requirements for xubuntu?
[07:01] <xsrvrx> are there any i could get relativly cheap that would work easily?
[07:01] <firebird619> Wallakoala: OK, I can check there, I was looking under https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades and how to upgrade, but that method did not work.
[07:02] <xsrvrx> and with a linksys router
[07:02] <firebird619> Wallakoala: I also was reading that with Dapper Drake there is a Desktop and Alternate CD, I ordered my CDs through Shipit. How do I know which type of CD I got, Desktop or Alternate?
[07:02] <kaot> xsrvrx: hrm.  I almost just wentout and bought a new card, then I'd have had to find out.  got mine working though so i haven't checked into it
[07:03] <Wallakoala> firebird619 when you boot off the cd, do you get a livecd or a text based installer?
[07:03] <xsrvrx> cool ill spend smore time on google then lol
[07:04] <xsrvrx> thanks alot kaot
[07:04] <Linuturk> well, i don't know what I did, but my wireless works
[07:04] <Linuturk> now
[07:04] <Zetha>  /server www.anfyhost.com 3434
[07:04] <firebird619> Wallakoala: I get nothing except the contents of the CD in File Browser. I put the CD in after I have started Breezy. I did it that way because that is how I did it upgrading from Hoary to Breezy, so I figirued I would do it the same way this time, but it is not working out.
[07:04] <kaot> xsrvrx: well you might be able to get yours to work too.  it just probably won't be easy
[07:04] <kaot> oops
[07:04] <kaot> too late
[07:04] <kaot> :\
[07:04] <Linuturk> i'm guessing it was the usb hub I originally had plugged in when I installed it
[07:05] <Wallakoala> firebird619 I am talking about actually booting off the cd. Not just putting it in. I think that when you order them from shipit you get teh desktop cd. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
[07:05] <firebird619> Wallakoala: I don't really want to to a clean install because I have a lot of extra programs downloaded and I only have dial-up so it would take a while to get them all again, otherwise I would just do a clean install and be done with it.
[07:06] <firebird619> Wallakoala: I will try booting from the CD and see what happens and let you know.
[07:06] <Wallakoala> firebird619 ok I might not be logged on for much longer so someone else might have to help you out, or try posting to the forums
[07:08] <firebird619> Wallakoala: Ok, I get a menu with the options of Start or install Ubuntu, Start Ubuntu in safe graphics mode, Check CD for defects, Memory test, and Boot from first hard disk.
[07:08] <Moocasso> Ooookay, so I finally managed to get mplayer installed, and .wav files on web sites will play now, but sites with .mp3s don't anymore :(  Any suggestions?  Lol
[07:08] <Wallakoala> firebird619, you definetly have the desktop cd
[07:09] <firebird619> Wallakoala: So am I unable to upgrade from the CD then?
[07:09] <jarrod06> hi guys
[07:09] <jarrod06> how do i mount a cd in terminal?
[07:09] <Wallakoala> firebird619, you probably can, but I have no idea how
[07:09] <Linuturk> where is the hardware database thingy in xubuntu?
[07:10] <firebird619> Wallakoala: Ok, thank you for your help. Why aren't both a Desktop and Alternate CD sent, rather than just a Desktop CD?
[07:11] <mrkoje> jarrod06,  something like   mount -t iso9xxx /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
[07:11] <jarrod06> woah bud, lame man's terms
[07:11] <mrkoje> jarrod06, I can't remember the file system type.. but I am pretty sure it is iso9xxx something
[07:12] <damion_> wat is the best way to install diablo 2
[07:12] <damion_> Does anyone know the best way to install diablo 2
[07:12] <HackerX2> *** Whats a Good Mp3 Player??? ***
[07:13] <anthosity> HackerX2: xmms
[07:13] <HackerX2> Thanks
[07:14] <jarrod06> does ubuntu automatically mount cds put into the driv?
[07:15] <compengi> if i want to stream songs live in ubuntu how can this be made?
[07:15] <mattyv> compengi: look at mpd
[07:15] <HackerX2> Hmm
[07:15] <compengi> jarrod06, yes
[07:15] <IcemanV9> jarrod06: yes. try it.
[07:16] <compengi> mattyv, what is mpd?
[07:16] <HackerX2> Why is it that when i have headphone pluged in it plays threw the head phones and the speakers on the laptop???
[07:17] <mattyv> compengi: stands for music player daemon, should be in the repositories, allows you to play music from another computer over the network
[07:17] <matttail> is it safe to remove the ubuntu-desktop package?  I'd like to thin down my system a little, but all sorts of things are tied to the ubuntu-desktop.
[07:17] <Shizboom> !freenx
[07:17] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[07:17] <xnull-> what's best for games? cedega?(i want to buy something to play)
[07:18] <Glimerrati> how can I run wma or wmv ?
[07:18] <compengi> mattyv, i want to stream the songs from my pc not from another computer
[07:18] <jarrod06> well im trying to install a game in wine and it needs for my cd to be unmounted but wine says the cd was never mounted
[07:18] <mattyv> compengi: from your pc to where?
[07:18] <dbmata> can anyone point me to a doc that can explain how to config either the nvidia driver or xorg.conf ? I'm having a rough time trying to figure out how to specify which monitor output goes to, or how to setup both monitors. (I got stuck in the terminal for a while.)
[07:18] <hcjc92_> IcemanV9, i have a problem! flux is awsome and works, but when i startx my account (hunter) it doens't work, but it does as root? any idea
[07:19] <compengi> to a radio station
[07:19] <Moocasso> Since I installed mplayer, web sites with an embedded .mp3, it won't play.  The rest of the page seems to work normally, but nothing from sound
[07:19] <mattyv> compengi: ahh that's different sorry, not sure how b/c ive never tried it
[07:20] <hcjc92_> would startx fail if .xinitrc was not owned by the user saying startx?
[07:20] <hcjc92_> cause i think the .xintitrc file might be owned by root
[07:21] <compengi> mattyv, in windows there was a thing in volume controler called mix something this gives an apportunity to stream songs whenever is needed
[07:21] <Moocasso> does anyone have any ideas?  :(
[07:21] <IcemanV9> hcjc92_: i don't know. X is run by root on my box. anyhow, you might want to copy .xinitrc from root to your user home dir.
[07:23] <mattyv> compengi: ah ok, i havent used windows in a while,  im not familiar with it
[07:23] <compengi> mattyv, anyway ty :D
[07:23] <BIZKeT> Good evening folks
[07:23] <jarrod06> guys i need some help here
[07:23] <jarrod06> please
[07:23] <jarrod06> i need to tell ubuntu to mount a cdrom
[07:24] <BIZKeT> I was hoping I could get some assistance with installing my Nforce4 chipset drivers.
[07:24] <jarrod06> with detailed instructions please
[07:26] <BIZKeT> When I try to install the drivers from the command line I get the message"Unable to find kernel source tree for the currently running kernel" Could someone instruct me on how to install the kernel source properly so that it can complie an installer?
[07:26] <Atrax-DM> whats the best way to get help with the wpa_supplicant?
[07:27] <Atrax-DM> setup...
[07:27] <KenSentMe> !wpa
[07:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:28] <KenSentMe> jarrod06: maybe you can check this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[07:29] <Atrax-DM> thx, im actually going thu the wiki on unbuntu.com im up to the "testing" section but im getting a different result then the example and on the wiki it said to come here with the error...
[07:29] <sloucher> bizket: use synaptic and search on kernel and then install
[07:29] <odie9999> hi, i got a little problem... my "make " does not work
[07:30] <sloucher> odie9999: did you install make?
[07:30] <BIZKeT> Sloucher, Duh <shakes head> I was in there earlier trying to find an nvidia installer :)
[07:30] <BIZKeT> Duh me, not you :)
[07:31] <odie9999> sloucher:i'll try that
[07:32] <mattyv> the package is build-essential iirc
[07:32] <BIZKeT> Am I correct in understanding that the kernal is not distro specific?
[07:32] <BIZKeT> kernel even
[07:33] <sloucher> bizket: yes, but the one you get from synaptic is custum for ubuntu
[07:34] <K^Holtz> is azureus supposed to be the best bittorrent client?
[07:34] <BIZKeT> I am fond of Azueus
[07:34] <Gareth^> BIZKeT, not exactly - most distros take the standard linux kernel (known as a vanilla kernel) and add patches (ie modifications and tweaks) to the code to make it distro-specific - the patches are usually stuff like extra drivers, etc
[07:35] <dbmata> does anyone with an nvidia card know how to enable a two monitor environment?
[07:35] <Atrax-DM> :~$ sudo wpa_supplicant -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w
[07:35] <Atrax-DM> when i test the wps_supp with the command: :~$ sudo wpa_supplicant -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w
[07:36] <BIZKeT> Hmmm. There are a lot of things that show up for kernel. I used the 32 bit x86 live disk to install. Which ones should I be looking at?
[07:36] <n9urk> hi all
[07:36] <Atrax-DM> ioctl[IEEE80211_IOCTL_SETPARAM] : Operation not supportedFailed to initialize driver interface
[07:36] <Atrax-DM> =/
[07:36] <BIZKeT> Hello n9urk
[07:36] <IRCMonkeyx> hi people, i am trying to install my usb modem, i have found something, and it must be put into kernel, how can i put it in kernel??? from terminal window???
[07:37] <n9urk> I recently set up ubuntu (server edition then added the desktop)
[07:37] <n9urk> and have a problem with php/mysql
[07:37] <user__> hello
[07:37] <n9urk> I have php5-cli installed and I get an error telling my mysql_connect() is an undefined funtion
[07:37] <BIZKeT> Ok. I think I figured it out
[07:38] <n9urk> Hello user__
[07:38] <Daveyboy> hi, how do you test what version of apache a third party website is running, and which OS?
[07:38] <user__> I need to know how to get palace onto Ubuntu
[07:38] <user__> my computer
[07:38] <n9urk> netcraft.co.uk Daveyboy?
[07:38] <sloucher> daveyboy: nmap tells the os
[07:38] <Shizboom> I am getting the error that i need libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 to install a program
[07:38] <Shizboom> where do i get that?
[07:39] <n9urk> Daveyboy: netcraft.com will do it
[07:39] <Daveyboy> n9urk, k thanks
[07:39] <IRCMonkeyx> hi people, i am trying to install my usb modem, i have found something, and it must be put into kernel, how can i put it in kernel??? from terminal window???
[07:39] <user__> there is a linux version but I am new to the whole deal
[07:39] <sloucher> shizboom: you google on it and then do searches with synaptic
[07:39] <user__> how do I get the palace chat program onto my pc?
[07:40] <Linuturk> if I wanted to install gnome over a xubuntu install, would I simply use sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[07:40] <kaot> holy crap, the palace is still around?
[07:40] <user__> yes
[07:40] <user__> lmao
[07:41] <kaot> jeez.  i was on that in like 97 or something lol
[07:41] <kaot> good for them
[07:41] <user__> lol
[07:41] <user__> I have been using it since 97
[07:41] <user__> lol
[07:41] <user__> o.O I dont know how to install it...
[07:41] <user__> which sucks
[07:41] <user__> v.v
[07:42] <user__> I wanted to get linux because I have heard alot of good things about it, But thing is I have noticed that many of the things I want to use are like err....well...ya know
[07:42] <Shizboom> what does synaptic have to do with the google searches?
[07:43] <kaot> user__: not supported and/or a pain in the butt
[07:43] <kaot> Shizboom: what that means is you can plug error messages into google and be well on your way to fixing it
[07:43] <user__> pretty much
[07:43] <Glimerrati> how can I install a network printer (XP)
[07:44] <user__> o.o
[07:44] <sloucher> shizboom: search on google for that file you typed in. That should lead you to dep package. Then you search with synaptic for the package
[07:44] <IRCMonkeyx> linuturk: sen biliyomusun bu olay ?hi people, i am trying to install my usb modem, i have found something, and it must be put into kernel, how can i put it in kernel??? from terminal window???
[07:44] <Daveyboy> IRCMonkeyx, you need to use ndiswrapper
[07:45] <Daveyboy> !ndiswrapper
[07:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:45] <Glimerrati> can anyone help me with installing a network printer?
[07:45] <user__> what type of printer?
[07:46] <IRCMonkeyx> daveyboy: could you tell me the steps? i am very new to linux, ndiswrapper??
[07:46] <Glimerrati> windows xp
[07:46] <user__> good luck o.O
[07:46] <sloucher> glimerrati: system, administration, printing
[07:47] <Glimerrati> ok...i have added that one.....then..?
[07:47] <user__> anyone have the palace?
[07:47] <user__> or know how to install it?
[07:47] <dbmata> anyone running a two display setup?
[07:48] <Daveyboy> IRCMonkeyx, i can't remember the exact steps, but if you google search it or check the ubuntu help site. Basically, you need to copy the .ini file or .sys file (the drivers) into linux. Hence the ndiswrapper tool
[07:49] <Daveyboy> IRCMonkeyx, what type of modem
[07:49] <firebird619> If I run the Install from the Dapper Drake Desktop CD, that is on the Desktop after booting to the CD, does that do a clean install or an upgrade install, or can you choose which one to do?
[07:49] <sloucher> user_ I don't think the palace will run the palace, but there's a linux version called openverse
[07:49] <lecaros> see you guys!
[07:49] <IRCMonkeyx> daveyboy: it is globespan usb
[07:49] <user__> hi there
[07:49] <user__> ooops
[07:50] <user__> x.x
[07:50] <user__> wrong window
[07:50] <bimberi> firebird619: clean install only
[07:50] <lecaros> hehe
[07:50] <IRCMonkeyx> daveyboy: gs7070 chipset
[07:50] <BIZKeT> Sloucher, I just tried installing the driver again after using synaptic to install the kernel files, and I still get the error that it can not find the source tree. Any further suggestions?
[07:50] <Glimerrati> ok...i have added that one.....then..?
[07:50] <sloucher> user_: let me try that again - I don't think the palace will run on linux, but there's a graghical chat client called openverse
[07:51] <Daveyboy> IRCMonkeyx, thats the best i can do, (push you in the right direction)
[07:51] <Wiseguy> hey guys, is there any printer company that is more compatible with linux then the next?
[07:52] <sloucher> user_: www.there.com is like the palace and they have a linux client
[07:52] <firebird619> bimberi: Ok, Thanks. I just received the CD's for Dapper in the mail today and wanted to do an upgrade install from Breezy, but the CD's are Desktop instead of Alternate, so I am trying to find out how to do an upgrade install, I think I found what I need on the Forums, I just haven't tried it yet. I would just do a clean install, but I have alot of extra programs downloaded and installed and I only have dial-up, so I would take a
[07:52] <firebird619> them all again.
[07:53] <KenSentMe> Wiseguy: maybe you can check here what printers are well supported by ubuntu. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
[07:53] <sloucher> bizket: you need the kernel source files i think - keep installing kernel related packages
[07:53] <dbmata> ok, my last try... does anyone know how to either: change the active monitor, or to: enable dual monitors using the nvidia drivers?
[07:54] <user__> take care all
[07:54] <IRCMonkeyx> Daveboy: i found installation procedure for my modem, but i am getting crazy , is it that  much difficult to install a driver in linux:( , http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/doc.php?file=eciadsl_install&doc_lang=en&view=html
[07:54] <neon> hello, somebody can help me, so i have a ralink usb wireless, but how can i install the driver?
[07:55] <Daveyboy> neon. ndiswrapper
[07:55] <Atrax-DM> can someone please help me through the WPS wiki, im up to the testing stage of the wiki and im getting an error on the command line: "sudo wpa_supplicant -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w" I get the error: "ioctl[IEEE80211_IOCTL_SETPARAM] : Operation not supported Failed to initialize driver interface" i've tryed all the different driver commands listed in the "wpa_supplicant" command without luck and I have used wpa on another
[07:56] <Atrax-DM> WPA
[07:56] <neon> Daveyboy, i have only ndiswrapper-utils
[07:56] <sloucher> IRCMondeyx: cool looks like your modem works in linux! Good luck though - modems are hard in linux
[07:56] <Desh> After following the Wiki guide to using fglrx on my laptop with a Mobility Radeon 9700, fglrxinfo reveals my OpenGL renderer to be mesa3d not ATI, any clues?
[07:56] <Daveyboy> neon, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[07:56] <neon> 10x
[07:57] <Insomnia1> howdy, is there some sort of vnc for linux?
[07:57] <sloucher> desh: your installation didn't work
[07:57] <dbmata> alright, I'm giving up for the night, going to log off, hopefully tomorrow I can figure out how to change monitors.
[07:57] <LeaChim> Insomnia1, yes.
[07:57] <dbmata> have a good night all.
[07:57] <Daveyboy> neon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[07:57] <IRCMonkeyx> sloucher: how will i put those codes into kernel??
[07:57] <LeaChim> Insomnia1, if you want to share your physical desktop - it's under system, preferences, remote desktop
[07:58] <sloucher> desh: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-187948.html
[07:58] <Insomnia1> LeaChim, now is there any way that i can set it up where each new user gets their own desktop?
[07:58] <xnull-> how do I install cedega?
[07:59] <LeaChim> Insomnia1, so like, a terminal server? lots of people vnc in and have different desktops?
[07:59] <firebird619> What is the best way to install Dapper? I have Breezy installed now, is it best to upgrade or do a clean install. I have dial-up, and from what I am reading on how to upgrade from a Dapper Desktop CD, files need to be downloaded.
[07:59] <Insomnia1> yeah, thats what I have in mind, but I'm not always clear when I speak
[08:00] <LeaChim> Insomnia1, ok, you need to install a vnc server - there's lots in synaptic. i have no idea which is the best - they should all work
[08:00] <indeed2270> hello
[08:00] <Insomnia1> okay, thanks
[08:00] <Insomnia1> i think i'll just share desktop for now, but i'll ultimately want to insall a vnc server
[08:00] <LeaChim> Insomnia1, then, as each user, the command is vncserver :somenumber - and then they connect on port 5900+number - i.e. if number is 4, that person connects on 5904
[08:01] <sloucher> IRCMondeyx: I don't understand your question? Follow the directions is about all I can tell you
[08:01] <Insomnia1> oh okay
[08:01] <LeaChim> Insomnia1, there's guides on the internet as to starting gnome and so on. enjoy
[08:01] <Daveyboy> Insomnia1, or you can use opensshserver
[08:01] <Atrax-DM> can someone please help me through the WPA wiki, im up to the testing stage of the wiki and im getting an error on the command line: "sudo wpa_supplicant -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w" I get the error: "ioctl[IEEE80211_IOCTL_SETPARAM] : Operation not supported Failed to initialize driver interface" i've tryed all the different driver commands listed in the "wpa_supplicant -h" command without luck and I have used wpa on anot
[08:02] <Insomnia1> i knew there was some -x feature or something, but i'm pretty new to linux so i'm kind of stumbling around here
[08:02] <Insomnia1> how would I access that opensshserver feature?
[08:02] <Daveyboy> sudo apt-get install opensshserver
[08:02] <Insomnia1> i already have opensshserver
[08:02] <Insomnia1> installed
[08:03] <orcdestroyer>  cdrecord: no such file or directory. cannot open /dev/pg0 cannot open SCSI driver???
[08:03] <Daveyboy> you connect through the client
[08:03] <orcdestroyer> I just can't record one cd
[08:03] <indeed2270> right now i'm using the ubuntu live-cd and i was wondering if there is any way in which i can access the files on my windows partition(it crashed) so i can make a back up of them on a DVD
[08:03] <Insomnia1> well i can connect to the terminal with putty
[08:03] <Daveyboy> yah thats what i use
[08:04] <K^Holtz> i'm trying to configure firestarter, and its asking me a question if i want to share my internet connection with one IP.. i have 2 PCs connected to my router.. i would think the router does this.. should i select the box or no?
[08:04] <kaot> K^Holtz: no
[08:04] <Linuturk_> just installed xchat in xubuntu, with the system info plugin
[08:04] <Linuturk_> from symantic
[08:04] <Insomnia1> Davey, i'm looking for a graphical thing like it though
[08:04] <Linuturk_> how do I display the info?
[08:04] <kaot> K^Holtz: that option is for using your computer as a router.  you have a seperate router already
[08:04] <K^Holtz> kaot: thats what i figured, thanks
[08:04] <kaot> Insomnia1: what you're trying to do, you can't, unless you install an xserver on your windows desktop
[08:04] <kaot> Insomnia1: which is doable, but ugly
[08:05] <kaot> Insomnia1: go with VNC
[08:05] <Daveyboy> Insomnia1, well you can just use the remote desktop feature of gnome or kde
[08:05] <Insomnia1> okay, thanks kkaot
[08:05] <kaot> np
[08:05] <indeed2270> any help?
[08:06] <indeed2270> i was wondering if there is any way in which i can access the files on my windows partition(it crashed) so i can make a back up of them on a DVD
[08:06] <indeed2270> (i'm on the ubuntu live-cd right now)
[08:06] <Daveyboy> indeed2270, you should be able to browse to them now
[08:07] <indeed2270> how?
[08:07] <Shizboom> holy shit
[08:07] <Shizboom> its working
[08:07] <Daveyboy> open the file browser
[08:07] <Shizboom> btw if anyone wants to get an nxserver working
[08:07] <Shizboom> check this link out
[08:07] <Shizboom> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204976&highlight=freenx
[08:08] <indeed2270> ok
[08:08] <Insomnia1> does ubuntu use KDE or Gnome?
[08:08] <Shizboom> gnome i think
[08:08] <Insomnia1> ty
[08:08] <Hobbsee> Insomnia1: gnome.
[08:08] <Hobbsee> Insomnia1: kubuntu uses kde
[08:08] <Insomnia1> oooh
[08:08] <Insomnia1> makes sense
[08:09] <IRCMonkeyx> ubuntu is brother of??? debian?
[08:09] <indeed2270> now, what?(sorry if i ask too many questions)
[08:09] <bimberi> !debian
[08:09] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded". To see more details on the relationship, see: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[08:09] <Shizboom> wow this is awesome
[08:09] <Insomnia1> ubuntu is the son of debian i thought
[08:09] <Insomnia1>  scion
[08:09] <IRCMonkeyx> i will download a driver, there is no ubuntu
[08:09] <Shizboom> is azureus the best torrent client for ubuntu or is there something else that is better?
[08:10] <IRCMonkeyx> if i download debian thing, what happens?
[08:10] <kaot> Shizboom: there a windows version of that?
[08:10] <Shizboom> of azureus?
[08:10] <tanx> you can use microtorrent, with wine.  that is what i do
[08:10] <kaot> freenx
[08:10] <Shizboom> the client yes
[08:10] <Shizboom> not server tho i dont think
[08:11] <Shizboom> i'm running a server on my ubuntu headless box at home
[08:11] <Daveyboy> an app is an app no matter which OS IT RUNS ON
[08:11] <bur[n] er> u can download a .deb from bittorrent.com
[08:11] <K^Holtz> kaot: if i close firestarter, and it doesnt minimize to tray, does that mean its not protecting me anymore?
[08:11] <bur[n] er> utorrent via wine works too if I recall
[08:11] <orcdestroyer> well, I can't install my boad playtv pro ultra
[08:11] <tanx> burner, that is correct.  i'm using utorrent via wine.
[08:11] <orcdestroyer> can anyone help me with ?
[08:11] <kaot> K^Holtz: haven't used firestarter in ages, but unless you make changes to your config, the iptables rules should stay in effect
[08:11] <kaot> K^Holtz: short answer, no
[08:11] <Shizboom> kaot - i'm running a server on my ubuntu headless box at home, and accessing it with the windows client
[08:12] <kaot> K^Holtz: if you want to be sure, open a terminal and sudo iptables -L -n
[08:12] <kaot> Shizboom: sweet
[08:12] <bur[n] er> tanx: you notice that the tray icon doesn't actually go to the tray with utorrent though?
[08:12] <rellim> hello all
[08:12] <tanx> haven't noticed, i just have a shortcut sitting on my desktop that i use
[08:13] <indeed2270> daveyboy, i think i had read somewhere that i needed to to go /dev/hda1, is that what i do?
[08:13] <Shizboom> its really working nicely
[08:13] <whitehorseNtiger> How do I turn off the "entered the room" and "left the room" notices?
[08:13] <kaot> Shizboom: last time i messed around with that stuff my options were VNC and some crap free X server for windows + exporting apps.  Both were bad.  I'll have to mess with this
[08:13] <Shizboom> i have a mounted partition with a funny name
[08:13] <Shizboom> how do i rename it
[08:13] <Shizboom> kaot - its really awesome, its superfast and really sharp quality
[08:14] <Daveyboy> indeed2270, you can open konquoer or nautilas and browse to the /dev/hda1 or whatever
[08:14] <rellim> Shizboom: rename the partition or just rename what it is mounted as?
[08:14] <linopil> !automounter
[08:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about automounter
[08:14] <Shizboom> ermmm just so its not hdc5 on my desktop
[08:14] <Madpilot> whitehorseNtiger, which IRC app are you using?
[08:14] <linopil> !automounter why
[08:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about automounter why
[08:15] <K^Holtz> kaot: ok, well theres a bunch of text in iptables, so im assuming its working
[08:15] <indeed2270> daveyboy, when i try it a window pops up saying "couldn't display '/dev/hda1'
[08:15] <linopil> automounter good for NFS and SMB ?
[08:15] <rellim> Shizboom: you should just be able to right click the icon and rename the icon
[08:15] <kaot> K^Holtz: yeah, you should be good.  Otherwise you'd only see three lines, INPUT, FORWARD, & OUTPUT and they'd all be empty
[08:15] <Shizboom> rename is greyed out
[08:16] <kaot> Shizboom: is freenx in apt?
[08:16] <rellim> Shizboom: hrmm... ooook then
[08:16] <rellim> Shizboom: lemme check something
[08:16] <Shizboom> kaot - apt? i'm a huge noob :P
[08:17] <Daveyboy> indeed2270, dunno, i cant recall off hand what to do . There may be a permission you need to envoke
[08:17] <kaot> erm.  where'd you get it?
[08:17] <Shizboom> i just followed the instructions on that thread
[08:17] <kaot> lol
[08:17] <kaot> ah.  i'll just check that then
[08:17] <Shizboom> from the nomachine website
[08:17] <Daveyboy> indeed2270, you should be able to google something
[08:17] <Shizboom> hold on 1 sec
[08:17] <Shizboom> ill get some links
[08:17] <Shizboom> here : http://www.nomachine.com/download.php
[08:17] <Shizboom> get the client/node/server
[08:18] <Shizboom> you will need this aswell maybe (i did)
[08:18] <Shizboom> http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/warty/libs/libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[08:18] <Shizboom> also need ssh installed if you dont already
[08:18] <Shizboom> i think
[08:18] <indeed2270> i did but all i could find was things that said stuff like "you can use a linux live cd to recover files from your windows partition", and that rare bit mentioning "/dev/hda1", etc
[08:18] <kaot> Shizboom: yeah i was reading that page already, was just wondering if i could apt-get it... no biggy
[08:19] <Daveyboy> indeed2270, http://jclark.org/weblog/Miscellany/Tech/ubrescue.html
[08:19] <sjk> can someone help me conquer my synaptics touchpad on my laptop... ?
[08:19] <linopil> what was that  ???????
[08:19] <linopil> (03:03:41) [OFTC] ybG: (notice) FUCK FREENODE
[08:19] <linopil> (03:03:42) [OFTC] ybG: (notice) FUCK FREENODE
[08:19] <Shizboom> those links on that site don't work i think
[08:19] <linopil> what was that on PM ???
[08:19] <rellim> Shizboom: i have a suggestion but i don't want to tell you to do it and have something mess up .... :/
[08:19] <Shizboom> nomachine redid their website
[08:19] <Quest-Master> I got that too linopil
[08:19] <Shizboom> what you thinking? :D
[08:20] <linopil> who can do this? no protection ?
[08:20] <indeed2270> daveyboy, many thanks, reading right now
[08:20] <sjk> I had my touchpad working on my previous Ubuntu install, but now the touchpad is losing sync and not responding at all
[08:20] <Daveyboy> indeed2270, yeah its a good articel
[08:21] <Daveyboy> indeed2270, article
[08:21] <rellim> Shizboom: i was thinking chmod 777 /dev/hda5 and that should allow you to right click and edit the mount name ... or maybe you just need to change you /etc/fstab entry
[08:21] <orcdestroyer> how can I see my libs?
[08:21] <rellim> Shizboom: actually ... could you cat /etc/fstab and pastebin it?
[08:21] <rellim> Shizboom: might be able to do it that way
[08:22] <Shizboom> 1 sec
[08:22] <dli> Shizboom, don't chmod /dev devices
[08:22] <rellim> Shizboom: k
[08:23] <Shizboom> !pastebin
[08:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:23] <Desh_> Can someone help me with my kernel?
[08:23] <Shizboom> here
[08:23] <Shizboom> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17384
[08:24] <rellim> dli: yeah ... i didn't think it was a good idea, but it was the only thing i could think of off the top of my head
[08:24] <rellim> Shizboom: ok, just a moment
[08:24] <dli> rellim, add the user to the disk group , add option: users to the fstab
[08:25] <rixth> Does anyone here use a 24" Dell flat screen? If so, does the card reader work/
[08:25] <dli> rellim, for removable devices, remove the line in fstab, and add user to the plugdev group
[08:25] <Daveyboy> indeed2270, once you get to sep 9 you should be able to use the dvd burning utility to burn the files.
[08:25] <rellim> dli: well thats a little more dynamic then what i was going to tell him because it is a hard drive, but i like your idea better
[08:25] <Desh_> Can anyone tell me why I get 2 diff kernel numbers here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17385
[08:25] <rellim> Shizboom: ^ what dli said
[08:26] <indeed2270> daveyboy, awesome, thanks, i really really appreciate your help (although i'm only on step 5)
[08:26] <Daveyboy> indeed2270, it is written in the context of not having a dvd/cd burner, and therefore accessing the files from a second windows box. Do you just have one computer?
[08:26] <indeed2270> yes
[08:27] <dli> rellim, ubuntu has a new kernel package, and your box already installed, uname -a , now
[08:27] <Shizboom> its not a removable device tho
[08:27] <Shizboom> its one of the partitions on my hard drive
[08:27] <dli> rellim, if you kernel is not the newest installed, you should reboot for good
[08:27] <rellim> dli: huh?
[08:27] <Desh_> How can I update my kernel?
[08:27] <rellim> dli: i wasn't the one with the issue
[08:28] <dli> rellim, sorry
[08:28] <dli> Desh, apt updates it for you
[08:28] <rellim> dli: Linux pseudoCube64 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:28:03 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:28] <rellim> :)
[08:28] <dli> Desh_, you may have to reboot to use the newly installed kernel
[08:28] <Desh_> dli: but is there a problem here? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17385
[08:28] <profoX`> join ##linux
[08:29] <profoX`> forgot /
[08:29] <Desh_> dli: how come some say .15-23 and others 25
[08:29] <dli> Desh_, run the command to double check: sudo update-grub
[08:30] <dli> Desh_, and to check your current kernel runing: uname -a
[08:30] <Shizboom> so what do i do exactly?
[08:30] <Desh_> dli: Linux hotwax 2.6.15-25-386 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:25:49 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:30] <Shizboom> open /ect/fstab with an editor?
[08:31] <kaot> Shizboom: you're trying to do what, now?
[08:31] <dli> Shizboom, set your hdd partitions to mount auto from fstab, and after that : sudo mount -a
[08:31] <Shizboom> change the name of my parition
[08:31] <Shizboom> okay one step at a time
[08:31] <Shizboom> my partitions are already auto mounting
[08:31] <rellim> Shizboom: well the way i was going to do it is have you make a directory inside of /media/ and name it whatever you want the hard drive to be called and then have that be the mount point
[08:31] <Shizboom> atleast i think they are
[08:32] <kaot> Shizboom: from what to what?
[08:32] <dli> Desh_, it's already the newest kernel, looks okay then
[08:32] <Desh_> dli: grub still says 23 tho.
[08:32] <Shizboom> its called hdc5 atm
[08:32] <dli> Desh_, sudo update-grub
[08:32] <Shizboom> i want to change it to something else
[08:32] <Desh_> dli: Did that. Would I need a reboot?
[08:33] <dli> Desh_, no need, it's the same kernel
[08:33] <Desh_> dli: o_O How can I see all the kernels on my machine?
[08:33] <Shizboom> i did sudo mount -a
[08:33] <Shizboom> not sure what it was sopposed to do :P
[08:34] <Desh_> dli: after update-grub it says abi-2.6.15-23-386     grub                      System.map-2.6.15-23-386, but shouldn't it be a 25 not a 23?
[08:34] <dli> Shizboom, run "  mount ", without any command line option, it shows mounted
[08:34] <cntb> !environment
[08:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about environment
[08:35] <cntb> !set
[08:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about set
[08:35] <dli> Desh_, pastebin your output
[08:35] <Shizboom> okay
[08:35] <Shizboom> the parition is mounted
[08:35] <Shizboom> now what
[08:36] <damion_> ok goodnight all
[08:36] <Daveyboy> indeed2270, how you making out?
[08:36] <Desh_> dli: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17386
[08:37] <dli> Desh_, that's correct
[08:37] <Desh_> dli: Hmm..ok then, thanks.
[08:40] <asdx> hi
[08:41] <asdx> is there a way for switch to tab to tab in screen, because i have 100 tabs or something and doing switch -x all the time isn't really effective
[08:41] <linopil> can anyone from internet delete easily my home dir ?
[08:42] <akant> Hey does anyone know of a package to view .ppt files with Dapper?
[08:42] <MoxJet> OpenOffice
[08:42] <asdx> linopil: why do you want to delete your home dir?
[08:42] <akant> really?
[08:42] <linopil> seeems it is deleted
[08:42] <linopil> or moved
[08:42] <akant> I thought OO would do this
[08:42] <MoxJet> hmm i can start most microsoft powerpoint files in oo
[08:42] <akant> let me recheck
[08:43] <akant> which oo app?
[08:44] <dli> akant, ooimpress2
[08:44] <akant> hmm awesome
[08:44] <akant> :)
[08:44] <akant> dli: I will check :)
[08:45] <beikangyao> P5WD2 + 6.06 + DWL-G520/WMP11 freezing .. can anyone help?
[08:46] <akant> lol, oo broke when I upgraded to Dapper, I thought oo was installed.. I guess its not!!
[08:46] <akant> ooopsie!
[08:46] <treeshoe> Is there any way I can run softare on my server 2003 machine that is designed specifically for windows xp? IE: not permitted to run on server 2003. Basically make the software think that its running under windows xp?
[08:47] <beikangyao> treeshoe vmware?
[08:47] <treeshoe> actually it can not be run under emulation
[08:47] <treeshoe> I am trying to partition a drive
[08:47] <treeshoe> without erasing all data on it
[08:47] <Madpilot> treeshoe, why are you asking Windows questions on a Linux channel, out of curiousity?
[08:47] <KenSentMe> treeshoe: what has this got to do with ubuntu?
[08:48] <treeshoe> nothing really, linux users are usually a very bright bunch of people so I came to seek help
[08:48] <Madpilot> treeshoe, try #windows for help with that OS
[08:49] <beikangyao> treeshoe doubtful .. don't think 2003 has the emulation layers that xp does ..
[08:49] <spades> treeshoe we cant make lemonade with bananas
[08:49] <beikangyao> can make a killer smoothie though
[08:50] <dli> spades, I remember I once had lemonade with banana juicy
[08:50] <eNons3nse> does anyone here use GTKPod that can answer a couple questions for me?
[08:51] <Daveyboy> indeed2270, how did you make out?
[08:51] <treeshoe> k.. thanks anyways
[08:52] <eNons3nse> ???
[08:52] <beikangyao> anyone here used a P5WD2 w/ a wireless card?
[08:52] <bsdirl> alright, dri + s3 card problem
[08:52] <bsdirl> on breezy, anyone got any ideas?
[08:53] <kaot> bsdirl: sorry have no experience with that card
[08:53] <dli> beikangyao, I know working ones: rt2x00 , zd1211, intel ipw , madwifi, anything else?
[08:54] <dli> bsdirl, dri + savage works with xorg-7.1
[08:54] <beikangyao> dli trying to use a DWL-G520 (madwifi) and it's hard locking the system
[08:54] <bsdirl> I installed the common-<date> and savage-<date> packages from dri.freedesktop.org, and they seem to have installed correctly, but my glxinfo still says "Direct Rendering: no" and glxgears is running at like 180fps max
[08:55] <bsdirl> 7.1's in dapepr right?
[08:55] <bsdirl> *dapper*
[08:55] <beikangyao> does the same w/ a Linksys WMP11
[08:55] <dli> beikangyao, madwifi is harder than rt2x00 or zd1211 :( I suggest you to pick up a cheap rt2x00 card, or an intel ipw
[08:56] <dli> bsdirl, no, 7.1 is released, but still not stable enough for most distro
[08:56] <bsdirl> hm, so no dri for this card in dapper? I heard it worked
[08:57] <dli> bsdirl, not sure, it may work, but I got it work in 7.1
[08:57] <bsdirl> savage aint a bad card for light 3d gaming
[08:57] <bsdirl> or what I wanna do soon, developing.
[08:57] <dli> bsdirl, savage is pretty bad :(
[08:58] <houssem> !rpm
[08:58] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[08:58] <houssem> !apt
[08:58] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto - also see !synaptic (gnome) or !adept (kde)
[08:58] <BSoDirl> it seems bad right now, I mean it's better than nothing... :|
[08:58] <dli> BSoDirl, intel GMA950 seems to be good
[08:59] <Shizboom> i figured out how to do it
[08:59] <BSoDirl> I'm just gonna hold out for a 128m geforce when the price goes down.
[08:59] <Shizboom> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive?highlight=%28rename%29
[08:59] <BSoDirl> my cousins got a 360 if I REALLY need to frag hard
[08:59] <beikangyao> gma950 is awesome .. especially in OSX ..
[08:59] <beikangyao> sucks for ANY kind of gaming though
[09:00] <BSoDirl> i paid like $50 for this box, so I'll deal with the savage lol
[09:01] <dli> BSoDirl, can you just get another card?
[09:01] <Hit3k> Is there a reason I cant see my computer from my laptop using samba
[09:02] <BSoDirl> in this region, jobs are hard to get with only 1 yr. of college
[09:02] <Lynoure> BSoDirl: Work experiece should help a lot, though
[09:03] <houssem> hello
[09:03] <BSoDirl> and my health prevents me from the hardcore construction
[09:04] <houssem> how to set a new password for root??
[09:04] <houssem> !root
[09:04] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:04] <BSoDirl> :|
[09:04] <spades> sudo passwd
[09:04] <dli> houssem, sudo passwd
[09:04] <houssem> thx
[09:05] <houssem> i can't access to my ntfs partition from x
[09:06] <dli> houssem, do you have uid= in your mount options
[09:06] <houssem> how to be a root on x
[09:06] <dli> houssem, no need to do that, just mount ntfs for a user uid
[09:06] <Insomnia1> howdy
[09:06] <Insomnia1> does anyone know how to use gnome-rdp?
[09:06] <houssem> how please?
[09:07] <houssem> i can access them from terminal
[09:07] <dli> houssem, open your /etc/fstab, and add uid=houssem in the option field
[09:07] <networker> help
[09:07] <Insomnia1> i need somebody
[09:08] <networker> ahhh
[09:08] <Insomnia1> help me if you can i'm feeling down
[09:08] <Insomnia1> and i do appreciate you being round
[09:08] <dli> Insomnia1, you shut up , no ask to ask
[09:08] <houssem> ok i did't
[09:08] <networker> I don't need help, but why isn't ~/bin in the $PATH in dapper?
[09:09] <houssem> i should unmount the partition an mount it again??
[09:09] <networker> Insomnial, get a dog.
[09:09] <dli> houssem, you can do that to test your fstab
[09:10] <houssem> how please?
[09:10] <houssem> !umount
[09:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about umount
[09:10] <fdsd> hey guys, How do I install pv?  I tried apt-get install pv, and it didnt work, any idea?
[09:11] <fdsd> I thought I had universe in my source.list
[09:11] <Constantinka> How can I place the weather forecast on my  Desktop on Ubuntu 6.06?
[09:11] <Insomnia1> http://www.beatles.cn/online/help.mp3
[09:11] <Insomnia1> i was quoting a song
[09:11] <networker> did you apt-get update
[09:11] <networker> ?
[09:12] <ajax4> Constantinka: you can use gdesklets and install the weather desklet
[09:12] <fdsd> networker, nope
[09:12] <ajax4> Constantinka: Also there is a weather applet that you can put on your gnome panel
[09:12] <Constantinka> I have it but I don't know how to place it on the Desktop
[09:12] <fdsd> networker, where does that install stuff to?
[09:13] <fdsd> Get:13 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages [2394kB] 
[09:13] <fdsd> Get:14 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Sources [975kB] 
[09:13] <fdsd> Fetched 4348kB in 25s (169kB/s)
[09:13] <fdsd> ?
[09:13] <BSoDirl> the weather panel applet is leet
[09:13] <Constantinka> yes the applet  I have it
[09:13] <houssem> how to unmount a partition?
[09:13] <BSoDirl> ...almost makes me wanna use GNOME :D
[09:13] <Insomnia1> can anyone help me with gnome-rdp
[09:13] <ajax4> Constantinka: Right click the panel and then click add
[09:13] <BSoDirl> umount <partition>
[09:13] <Constantinka> But I want to have it on the Desktop
[09:13] <Constantinka> :))
[09:14] <Constantinka> not on the panel
[09:14] <houssem> i have an error message : periphrique occup
[09:14] <ajax4> Constantinka: Then you need to use gdesklets.
[09:14] <Constantinka> what should I do?
[09:14] <ajax4> Constantinka: Do you have the gdesklets package installed?
[09:14] <linopil> Constantinka:  BG?
[09:15] <Constantinka> I don't know
[09:15] <networker> fdsd, apt-get update just reloads your sources.list file - if you don't do that every time you change sources.list it won't see the depositories you added
[09:15] <Constantinka> yes
[09:15] <fdsd> networker, ok
[09:15] <ajax4> Constantinka: You have to have gdesklets running all the time in order to see gdesklets. So click Start > Accessories > Gdesklets to start it up
[09:16] <houssem> !sources.list
[09:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:16] <dli> networker, if you change your sources.list and don't apt-get update, apt will tell you to update when you run it
[09:16] <houssem> where sources.list file located?
[09:16] <dli> houssem, /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:16] <networker> good to know
[09:17] <dli> houssem, better to use easysource
[09:17] <ajax4> Constantinka: Once its started you shold see an icon in your notification area.
[09:17] <Constantinka> I can't fint this
[09:17] <Constantinka> in wich menu is?
[09:17] <houssem> i want to download the last version of firefox can you give me some sources to add them to my sources.list?
[09:18] <ajax4> Click the Ubuntu menu, then Accessories, then click gDesklets
[09:18] <dli> houssem, I think dapper has 1.5.0.4
[09:18] <Atrax-DM> Hello, ive just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu 6.06, whats an easy/best way to setup my system to use WPA on my wireless network? (uve search around and found alot of different ways none of which seem to work for me)
[09:18] <houssem> some urls for my sources.list
[09:19] <Constantinka> May be  I don't have gDesklets
[09:19] <Constantinka> Or it is not in my menu
[09:19] <ajax4> Constantinka: open a terminal and type: apt-get install gdesklets
[09:20] <Constantinka>  Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[09:20] <Constantinka> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[09:20] <KenSentMe> Constantinka: use 'sudo apt-get install gdesklets'
[09:20] <ajax4> Constantinka: Do you have the synaptic package manager open?
[09:21] <ajax4> Constantinka: Oh yeah I forgot sudo.
[09:21] <ajax4> Constantinka: Type what KenSentMe said.
[09:21] <houssem> when i type umount /dev/hda1 i have the message "priphrique occup"
[09:21] <BSoDirl> houseem: cd /
[09:22] <BSoDirl> then do that again
[09:22] <BSoDirl> "Device Busy"
[09:22] <BSoDirl> wont umount if you're in the directory :)
[09:22] <houssem> ok
[09:22] <houssem> it works
[09:22] <houssem> thanks
[09:22] <jarrod06> so um, would it be a problem if i had my pc's bios set for unix hdd access mode when installing windows and the windows default is dos hdd access?
[09:22] <Constantinka> Isn't there a simplier way? :))
[09:23] <BSoDirl> np houssem: :)
[09:23] <ajax4> Constantinka: You can install gdesklets in the Synaptic Package Manager if you prefer.
[09:24] <ajax4> Constantinka: Its easier to just type: sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[09:25] <olrrai_X> i am installing mplayer
[09:25] <houssem> when i type apt-cache search some thing i have an error in my sources
[09:26] <olrrai_X> i run fine: ./configure
[09:26] <zenit> houssem: you need to be specific, what error?
[09:26] <Constantinka> I'm not root
[09:26] <olrrai_X> but cant run make
[09:26] <houssem> error in the urls
[09:26] <ajax4> Constantinka: putting sudo before the command will make you root but only for that command.
[09:27] <narfmaster> olrrai_X, have you compiled mplayer before?
[09:27] <Constantinka> asks for password
[09:27] <Constantinka> I don't have it
[09:27] <Constantinka> :((
[09:27] <olrrai_X> yes with ./configure
[09:27] <ajax4> Constantinka: Just type your usual password.
[09:27] <olrrai_X> and with ./configure --enable-gui
[09:27] <olrrai_X> it ends fine
[09:28] <narfmaster> olrrai_X, no i mean have you ever succeeded in making mplayer before
[09:28] <Constantinka> ok
[09:28] <olrrai_X> "make" is generated by ./configure ?
[09:28] <houssem> anyone have a valid sources.list?
[09:28] <ajax4> Constantinka: is it installing now?
[09:28] <narfmaster> olrrai_X, is this the first time you have tried to make mplayer?
[09:28] <BSoDirl> make's a command, usually run after configure :)
[09:29] <jonclark> i need help following this: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[09:29] <Constantinka> : Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:29] <Constantinka> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:29] <olrrai_X> yes, is the firs time to install anything, lol
[09:29] <olrrai_X> (on ubuntu)
[09:29] <jonclark> i can't access my /etc/init.d/ directory
[09:29] <narfmaster> olrrai_X, mplayer has lots of dependencies
[09:29] <olrrai_X> i ever use sudo
[09:29] <ajax4> Constantinka: You must have the Synaptic Package Manager open. Close it.
[09:29] <olrrai_X> yes it think the same
[09:30] <narfmaster> olrrai_X, if you can you would be better off to "sudo apt-get install mplayer"
[09:30] <houssem> when can i find a sources to add them to source.list file?
[09:30] <olrrai_X> but what is "make" ?
[09:30] <olrrai_X> make isnt exist
[09:30] <ajax4> jonclark: you have become root to do it or use sudo.
[09:30] <Constantinka> it is insralling now
[09:30] <houssem> !zend
[09:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about zend
[09:30] <dli> BSoDirl, no, I ordered a modem for my friend two months ago
[09:30] <ajax4> jonclark: sudo cp file /etc/init.d/
[09:31] <ajax4> Constantinka: Tell me when its done.
[09:31] <jonclark> ty ajax4
[09:31] <olrrai_X> i will try it
[09:31] <dli> BSoDirl, 20 $CAN, a hardware modem
[09:31] <BSoDirl> clarification: linmodem ubuntu user :)
[09:31] <ajax4> jonclark: np
[09:31] <BSoDirl> lol i got a newer comp so my trusty USR Sportster ISApnp modem wont fit
[09:31] <BSoDirl> I retired it
[09:31] <Daveyboy> okay in samba ..system_username = "network username"   is system_username a parameter and network username a linux account on my box?
[09:32] <ajax4> jonclark: Just curious, what type of script are you trying to do at boot time?
[09:32] <jonclark> ajax4: to startup my wireless
[09:32] <jonclark> i got a broadcom card that resets every restart
[09:32] <ajax4> jonclark: Ahh, okay...that's a good place to do it then.
[09:32] <dli> BSoDirl, new computers don't have serial port any more
[09:33] <ajax4> jonclark: Don't forget to make the script executable also.
[09:33] <BSoDirl> uhhh I know that.
[09:33] <Daveyboy> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add.2Fedit.2Fdelete_network_users
[09:33] <olrrai_X> i have only a question: is "make" generated by ./configure (linux logic)?
[09:33] <BSoDirl> It was internal..
[09:33] <^psych0^> heya, just a quick stupid question... what do I do if I get unsigned packages in the updates?
[09:34] <jonclark> ajax4: if it's not too much to ask, how?
[09:34] <narfmaster> olrrai_X, configure creates the "makefile"s
[09:34] <jonclark> ajax: i got it running already
[09:34] <jonclark> with chmod
[09:34] <^psych0^> olrrai_X: ./configure gets together the information which is needed for make
[09:34] <narfmaster> olrrai_X, the "make" command is installed if you install "build-essential"
[09:34] <BSoDirl> olrrai_X: make is just a command but if there's a 'configure' in the main directory, you run it first, sometimes you can just type "make" "make install" and compile..
[09:34] <ajax4> jonclark: Not a problem: sudo chmod a+x /etc/init.d/scriptname
[09:34] <Constantinka> ajax4, done
[09:34] <dli> BSoDirl, which modem? hard to find a working one
[09:34] <olrrai_X> ohhh, thanks
[09:34] <jonclark> ty a million ajax4
[09:35] <ajax4> Constantinka: Okay, now run the program. It should be under applications > gDesklets
[09:35] <houssem> when can i find a sources to add them to source.list file?
[09:35] <ajax4> jonclark: np dude
[09:35] <BSoDirl> it was an old ISA hardware modem I paid $1 for that survived snow+rain for 6 months outside
[09:35] <BSoDirl> dont make em like they used to
[09:35] <BSoDirl> but my Intel 536ep winmodem works fine with breezy now
[09:36] <olrrai_X> "build-esencial" save my ass, thanks
[09:36] <^psych0^> so yeah... what's up with unsigned dbus packages I'm getting in the update window?
[09:36] <houssem> when can i find a sources to add them to source.list file?
[09:36] <BSoDirl> i just gotta... install build-essential, gcc-3.4_base, gcc-3.4, cpp, kernel-headers/image/rest.mods and build it
[09:36] <Constantinka> I started it
[09:36] <BSoDirl> Synaptic *repositories*
[09:36] <houssem> when can i find a sources to add them to source.list file?
[09:36] <BSoDirl> i think
[09:36] <ajax4> Constantinka: Do you see a new icon in your panel notification area?
[09:37] <houssem> when can i find a sources to add them to source.list file?
[09:37] <vikash> hi friends
[09:37] <Constantinka> yes
[09:37] <BSoDirl> houssem: i just answered you
[09:37] <vikash> i installed totem xine
[09:37] <vikash> but i m not getting sound
[09:37] <ajax4> Constantinka: Right click that icon and click Mange Desklets.
[09:37] <BSoDirl> in synaptic/repositories, add multiverse+universe
[09:37] <BSoDirl> vikash, install "libmad0" and gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:38] <BSoDirl> for mpeg audio playback
[09:38] <vikash> i uninstalled gstream
[09:38] <vikash> to install xine lib
[09:38] <BSoDirl> hm
[09:38] <vikash> for totem
[09:38] <BSoDirl> then install libmad0
[09:38] <BSoDirl> see if that works
[09:38] <vikash> ok
[09:38] <vikash> thnks
[09:38] <BSoDirl> i didnt mess with gstreamer
[09:38] <houssem> !exit
[09:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about exit
[09:38] <BSoDirl> i just installed gxine
[09:38] <^psych0^> vikash: I think you can either have the xine engine or the gstreamer engine... not both...
[09:38] <ajax4> Constantinka: Now on the left panel Click "Weather/Current Conditions" and then on the right panel double-click "Weather"
[09:38] <Constantinka> Is it the first comand?
[09:39] <vikash> ya
[09:39] <vikash> i have xine engine
[09:39] <BSoDirl> totem seems useless to me... i love xine
[09:39] <vikash> bcoz gstreamer can not play mpg avi..i think
[09:39] <vikash> i have installed xine ui
[09:39] <vikash> but it shows error
[09:39] <BSoDirl> ugh
[09:39] <vikash> audio codec mpeg2/3
[09:39] <BSoDirl> installed gxine..
[09:40] <^psych0^> vikash: what the errro says?
[09:40] <BSoDirl> ahhh you need 'libmad0'
[09:40] <dli> BSoDirl, the modem I ordered has serial and usb ports, don't know whether I can make it work with usb
[09:40] <vikash> audio codec: mpeg 2/3
[09:40] <Atrax-DM> Hello, ive just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu 6.06, whats an easy/best way to setup my system to use WPA on my wireless network? (uve search around and found alot of different ways none of which seem to work for me)
[09:40] <linopil>   Tux Racer is now included in the woody branch of Debian GNU/Linux. If you are using unstable (woody),
[09:40] <BSoDirl> that must be some modem..
[09:40] <linopil> how to install tuxracer
[09:40] <vikash> gxine is different from xine ui?
[09:41] <Daveyboy> can someone explain the difference between system_username and network username http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add.2Fedit.2Fdelete_network_users
[09:41] <BSoDirl> not sure
[09:41] <BSoDirl> i just went with gxine because I used it with puppylinux and liked it
[09:41] <vikash> hey libmad0 is already installed
[09:41] <^psych0^> vikash: yeah... but the problem you're having is the codecs problem not the graphical user interface problem... both of those just let you access xine libraries...
[09:41] <Constantinka> ajax4, thans
[09:41] <ajax4> Constantinka: np, just one more step....
[09:42] <vikash> ya
[09:42] <narfmaster> linopil, i think it's called "planetpenguin-racer" now
[09:42] <vikash> what to do with audio
[09:42] <BSoDirl> ppracer yeah
[09:42] <ajax4> Constantinka: You have to tell your system to load gdesklets every time it starts up or you won't see your weather desklet.
[09:42] <BSoDirl> i got the tuxracer win32 port somewhere
[09:42] <^psych0^> vikash: just look for all xine libraries... and codecs... I believe it is all described in the Easy Starter's guide...
[09:42] <BSoDirl> well yall, im out
[09:42] <vikash> where is that guide
[09:43] <Atrax-DM> Hello, ive just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu 6.06, whats an easy/best way to setup my system to use WPA on my wireless network? (uve search around and found alot of different ways none of which seem to work for me)
[09:43] <olrrai_X> using "make" ever has a lot of "warning:" ??
[09:43] <vikash> i m getting video but not audio in totem-xine
[09:43] <narfmaster> olrrai_X, you get a lot of warnings usually
[09:43] <NeedHelp> hi
[09:44] <olrrai_X> narfmaster: but then works?
[09:44] <NeedHelp> My external HDD doesn't appear?
[09:44] <narfmaster> olrrai_X, yes as long as you don't get "errors"
[09:44] <vikash> where cud i find easy starter guide
[09:44] <^psych0^> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[09:44] <olrrai_X> ok
[09:44] <vikash> ok
[09:44] <vikash> thanks
[09:44] <linopil>  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:44] <linopil> not working
[09:45] <vikash> how can i play .wmv files in vlc
[09:45] <^psych0^> I think mplayer handles .wmv files the best...
[09:45] <NeedHelp> My external HDD doesn't appear
[09:46] <vikash> mplayer is available in synaptic
[09:46] <^psych0^> NeedHelp: check you logs for errors
[09:46] <vikash> or not
[09:46] <^psych0^> vikash: yes
[09:46] <NeedHelp> how do I get my log up
[09:46] <olrrai_X> i know after make needs "make install" but what exactly generates "make" ?
[09:46] <vikash> gstream can play avi or not
[09:46] <Atrax-DM> Hello, ive just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu 6.06, whats an easy/best way to setup my system to use WPA on my wireless network? (uve search around and found alot of different ways none of which seem to work for me most of them are for a older version of ubuntu)
[09:46] <vikash> in multi univ repos
[09:46] <^psych0^> NeedHelp: System -> Admin -> System Logs
[09:46] <NeedHelp> k
[09:46] <^psych0^> or just run dmesg
[09:47] <NeedHelp> SYstem logs isnt there
[09:47] <dli> NeedHelp, type: mount
[09:47] <^psych0^> NeedHelp: yeah the easiest is just to type dmesg in the console
[09:47] <vikash> hey psycho...gstream can play mpg,avi or not
[09:47] <NeedHelp> k
[09:48] <dli> NeedHelp, if nothing about your external hdd, unplug, and plugin again, wait for a while, type: dmesg|tail
[09:48] <^psych0^> vikash: I believe it can... the problem is the quality of codecs varies... sometimes can get strange jitter and such... mplayer uses the windows codecs so there are fewer problems...
[09:48] <haffouff> i need some sources to download firefox and xmms
[09:48] <haffouff> !sources
[09:48] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:48] <NeedHelp> [4296794.556000]  SCSI device sdb: 490234752 512-byte hdwr sectors (251000 MB)
[09:49] <haffouff> !easysource
[09:49] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:49] <NeedHelp> it's there?
[09:49] <^psych0^> so back to my question... how does everyone deal with unsigned packages in updates?
[09:49] <user__> hello
[09:49] <^psych0^> NeedHelp: looks like your dbus and hal are broken then...
[09:49] <narfmaster> ^psych0^, unsigned?
[09:50] <Atrax-DM> Can someone point me in the direction of instructions for setting up WPA on 6.06?
[09:50] <dli> NeedHelp, okay, it's not partitioned?
[09:50] <NeedHelp> its vfat
[09:50] <user__> >.< was trying to make a interesting name for the chat and it continues to show up as user
[09:50] <^psych0^> narfmaster: yeah, I'm just checking the updates window and when I pass onto install it lists all the updates as unsigned...
[09:50] <user__> this is lame ..............
[09:50] <NeedHelp> I've managed to mount it in /home/lee/Desktop/test
[09:50] <vikash> i select universe and multi universe directory ..but next time when i see i get these things unchecked
[09:50] <NeedHelp> but why isn' t it auto mounting like it used to?
[09:50] <Glimerrati> hello.....I downloaded the required files as per instruction from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75278.html for WMA and WMV....but now they can play my file without sound....PLZ NEED HELP
[09:50] <narfmaster> ^psych0^, i think that means you should double-check your sources
[09:50] <nao> does anyone know how to open qsynaptic after I installed it so that I can actually configure my touchpad?
[09:51] <NeedHelp> brb
[09:51] <Atrax> Can someone point me in the direction of instructions for setting up WPA on 6.06?
[09:51] <NeedHelp> +++++++33-9
[09:51] <Atrax> plzzzzzzzzzz
[09:51] <dli> NeedHelp, umount it, after that, as a user, type: pmount /dev/sdb1 ( I think it's sdb1, you double check with: sudo fdisk -l )
[09:52] <olrrai_X> any way to copy files to my vmplayer image files?
[09:52] <^psych0^> narfmaster: being an ex-slackware linuxer that doesn't tell me much... I seem to have turned off all the suspect sources in the Software Properties...
[09:52] <narfmaster> Atrax, sorry it is a huge pain
[09:52] <NeedHelp> back
[09:52] <user__> Ok
[09:52] <user__> um how do I change themes?
[09:52] <user__> o.o
[09:52] <user__> I feel so stupid x.x
[09:53] <NeedHelp> it's mounted now
[09:53] <NeedHelp> sdb1 is on the desktop
[09:53] <Atrax> nerf, really? it would seem as a very common request...? there is no doc's?
[09:53] <NeedHelp> but it should be labelled 'OVERDRIVE'
[09:53] <Glimerrati> can anyone help me with WMA AND WMV?
[09:53] <^psych0^> NeedHelp: the automatic mounting of things happens with hal and dbus... so you'd need to check those are running...
[09:53] <NeedHelp> how do I check
[09:53] <narfmaster> Atrax, there are a lot of hardware-related "gotchas"
[09:53] <NeedHelp> It was automounting yesterday
[09:54] <dli> NeedHelp, remove /dev/sdb1 in your /etc/fstab (if it's there)
[09:54] <yango> hi... I'm trying to use keychain but sourcing the generated file in .bash_profile doesn't work (it's not executed) how would I do it?
[09:54] <Atrax> I have used wpa supplicant on other distros
[09:54] <lvpython> Atrax,use iwconfig
[09:54] <ajax4> olrrai_X: I use a networked partition that the vmware image can access.
[09:54] <lvpython> and iwlist
[09:54] <^psych0^> NeedHelp: check with ps -aux
[09:54] <NeedHelp> sdb isnt in fstab
[09:54] <Atrax> thx, so you wouldnt suggest wpa_supp?
[09:55] <NeedHelp> hald-addon-acpi
[09:55] <NeedHelp> ?
[09:55] <dli> NeedHelp, you may check your gnome-volume-manager, as user, type: gconf-editor
[09:55] <Atrax> iwconfig and iwlist are extra apps ill need to install yes?
[09:55] <Glimerrati> can anyone help me with WMA AND WMV?
[09:55] <NeedHelp> where do I go from here
[09:55] <Hobbsee> Atrax: they should already be in a default kubuntu install
[09:56] <dli> Atrax, I don't really know how to set up wpa :( so I use plain text
[09:56] <NeedHelp> if it was automounting yewsterday why isnt it today
[09:56] <^psych0^> NeedHelp: yeah you got hal running also see if you got dbus-daemon --system running...
[09:56] <Atrax> I have a frech copy of ubuntu 6.06 not kubuntu
[09:56] <dli> NeedHelp, then, good luck
[09:56] <NeedHelp>  dbus-daemon --fork --print
[09:57] <narfmaster> Atrax, iwlist is in "wireless-tools" which should be installed already
[09:57] <yango> hi... why opening terminals in gnome don't execute .bash_profile?
[09:57] <lvpython> you need iwlist device scanning to get essid of your AP
[09:57] <NeedHelp> it's running but whats up with automounting
[09:57] <^psych0^> NeedHelp: ok that's working too...
[09:57] <MoxJet> Glimerrati, you can install wma and wmv codecs with automatix
[09:57] <compengi> how do i run icecast
[09:57] <Daveyboy> my terminal is "frozen" no shell prompt, how do i "unfreeze"?
[09:57] <NeedHelp> CTRL+C
[09:58] <Daveyboy> tied that
[09:58] <NeedHelp> kk
[09:58] <Daveyboy> dint work
[09:58] <ajax4> Glimmerrati, also read the info on Restricted Formats.
[09:58] <ajax4> !restricted
[09:58] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:58] <NeedHelp> open a new terminal
[09:58] <MoxJet> Glimerrati, search for automatix on ubuntu forums
[09:58] <lvpython> and iwconfig device essid "youressid" and key "your wpa passwd"
[09:58] <^psych0^> NeedHelp: look at preferences -> Removable Drives and Media then...
[09:58] <yango> Daveyboy, haven't you by accident pressed ctrl-s (or scroll lock)? then press ctrl-q to unlock
[09:59] <^psych0^> narfmaster: how do I check sources?
[09:59] <NeedHelp> ...
[09:59] <Atrax> where would i find the "wireless tools" ?
[09:59] <narfmaster> ^psych0^, look at "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:59] <Daveyboy> connected via putty
[09:59] <NeedHelp> im on removable drvs + media
[09:59] <dli> Atrax, apt-get install wireless-tools
[09:59] <Atrax> kk thx
[09:59] <impeto> hi to all
[10:00] <NeedHelp> plz I have to go soon
[10:00] <NeedHelp> _
[10:00] <^psych0^> narfmaster: I only have the official ones in there now... the updates still show up though?
[10:00] <impeto> Someone are experienced with GigaBit NIC and can help me to choose a right one fully compatible with Dapper 6.06 ?
[10:01] <Atrax> wireless tyolls are already installed... somewhere =)
[10:01] <narfmaster> ^psych0^, if you can apt-get update, you should be fine then
[10:01] <^psych0^> NeedHelp: just check the settings and what it says everywhere...
[10:01] <swadhin> hi there
[10:01] <dli> impeto, intel pro1000
[10:01] <NeedHelp> it's set to mount things when hot plugged and the other one
[10:01] <NeedHelp> brb I have to reboot
[10:01] <haffouff> how to download the last version of firefox with apt?
[10:01] <impeto> dli: thanks... but something less espensive?
[10:02] <swadhin> hi my keyboard and mouse stopped responding suddenly i am using ubuntu breezy badger
[10:02] <dli> impeto, sis 190/191
[10:02] <swadhin> could any one help me finding the solution
[10:02] <yango> how are you typing, swadhin ? :P
[10:02] <avis> i was wondering if a guru could help a poor guy out.  i've had this fat32 hard drive that i recently bought and formatted it under ubuntu i believe and when i inserted it at the very first into win xp it recognized the model of the hard drive.  i've found many different ways of formatting it however when i plug it into xp it wont recognize the device.  flustered, i found this one command that may do the trick if i plug it into windows without pa
[10:02] <avis> rtitioning it first.  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1M .. my fat32 external usb drive went unrecognizeable when i deleted the system volume information and recycle bin in ubuntu thinking it would re-create them in windows.  the command line i mentioned hasn't finished but i'm hoping it'll work.  if it doesn't i'll try to look how to do a true low level format to the disk even though i ought not do that.  help anyone ?
[10:02] <swadhin> i am accessing from a different desktop
[10:02] <Glimerrati> I can run the WMV files without any sound...
[10:02] <Daveyboy> what port does samba run on?
[10:03] <Glimerrati> what can I do for sound?
[10:03] <impeto> dli: ok many thanks
[10:03] <Atrax> where would i find "wireless tools" in the menus? there is network tools but the wireless section in there doesnt support wpa =/
[10:03] <dli> impeto, bcm tg3
[10:03] <yango> swadhin, provide more info... such as when did it happen, can you log on to the machine to see logs, etc.
[10:03] <impeto> ghghghghhg
[10:03] <avis> Atrax, apt-get install network-manager-gnome i think has wpasupplicant as a dependency but i've never gotten it to work many other people have
[10:04] <Atrax> it doesnt
[10:04] <Atrax> ?
[10:04] <TheMoebius> I don't have a System > Administration > Printers menu - what am I missing?
[10:05] <lavi> Hi, I entry the command under the command-line -- man pthread_create,  it printed no entry for it. Which package do I need install ?
[10:05] <avis> anyone have any idea what to do to get my fat32 drive reformated and detected under x dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1M the right command to get it to see it as virgin drive ? p ?  is
[10:05] <dli> TheMoebius, install cupsys first :)
[10:05] <^psych0^> narfmaster: what bothers me is that these packages seem to be from the official repositories...
[10:05] <narfmaster> ^psych0^, what packages?
[10:05] <TheMoebius> dli: yep, its installed...
[10:05] <Glimerrati> what can I do for sound?
[10:06] <dli> TheMoebius, then, in firefox, open http://localhost:631
[10:06] <corran> I have a question, does anyone else have problems with gdm not killing Xorg when a session terminates?
[10:06] <TheMoebius> ahhh i think it was gnome-cups-manager that i was missing
[10:07] <avis> corran, log out.  or switch user.  or change session
[10:07] <martin__> Hi people. I have a fast question. The print screen capture program in Ubuntu, what is the name of the executable? I want to add it in a fluxbox menu since it doesn't appear to be there right now
[10:07] <ajax4> avis: Try a program called gparted
[10:07] <^psych0^> login 1:4.0.13-7ubuntu3.1
[10:07] <^psych0^> narfmaster, login 1:4.0.13-7ubuntu3.1 for example
[10:07] <narfmaster> ^psych0^, that's one of the security updates from yesterday
[10:08] <^psych0^> narfmaster: yeah I was wondering why it said it was unsigned then if it's a security update?
[10:08] <narfmaster> you should also see ppp and passwd
[10:08] <corran> avis: this is across the failsafe xterm (^D), log out of gnome, exit in fluxbox (a .xsession) and quit in kde.
[10:08] <avis> ajax4, thank you.  could you give me any tips on how to use it ?  the main problem is i can format it as fat32 easily.  but getting it recognized under xp is difficult.  errors, says something wrong with hard drive when i have treated it with extreme caution
[10:08] <gostview> hi all, anybody could give me a hand with this  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17391, I can't understand what need
[10:08] <lavi> wow, anyone know it? I mean what package I must install to display the man pthread_create.
[10:08] <avis> corran, in that case i'm inexperienced
[10:09] <corran> avis: have you seen this just with gnome?
[10:09] <swadhin> let me gige you the details
[10:09] <corran> avis: it is some problem with gdm
[10:09] <ajax4> avis: Well gparted is just a partition creator/editor...similar to partition magic under Windows. If you format the first partition as vfat it should be detected fine under Windows. Its an external drive?
[10:09] <swadhin> its a old intel P3 box
[10:09] <avis> yes external via usb.
[10:09] <swadhin> i installed ubunto one month back
[10:10] <swadhin> then i bought a HP officejet printer scanner
[10:10] <swadhin>  i configured it using HPLIP
[10:10] <ajax4> avis: Windows has limits as to how big the partition can be. How big is it?
[10:10] <swadhin>  yesterday i plugged out the USB cable
[10:10] <avis> ajax4, i just want the whole drive as a fat32 drive.  its how i transfer my archives from my window workstations to my linux workstations since i am too lame to samba.
[10:10] <swadhin> from the system that was connected to the printer
[10:10] <swadhin> after that the monitor stopped responding
[10:11] <swadhin> after reboot the monitor is working fine but keyboard and mouse went off
[10:11] <avis> ajax 100 GB but it has been formatted as 100GB under ubuntu and had no problem under windows
[10:11] <swadhin> during boot time they are working fin
[10:11] <swadhin>  but once the OS loads
[10:11] <swadhin> it is not responding
[10:11] <swadhin> i can log into the machine
[10:11] <MoxJet> how do I install extra languages in Xubuntu?
[10:11] <swadhin> tell me what are the logs i need to checkup
[10:11] <swadhin> any thoughts
[10:11] <Daveyboy> what port does samba run on?
[10:12] <avis> 137-139 both udp and tcp
[10:12] <ajax4> avis: I'm almost certain that that is too big a fat partition for windows to handle correctly.
[10:12] <swadhin> yango , any thoughts
[10:12] <Daveyboy> avis, 137 thru 139?
[10:12] <avis> ajax4, my x64 windows handled it just fine before though.
[10:12] <Gasten> Is there a way to enable Dual Boot with windas AFTER you have installet ubuntu? If not, can I uninstall/install it again to do so?
[10:12] <avis> yes Daveyboy
[10:13] <dli> ajax4, I remember windows fixed the 32GB limit
[10:13] <EnsilZah> Question: What do i need to do after installing a new kernel to get the nvidia driver working again?
[10:13] <yango> swadhin, messages, Xorg (you're using X, no?), udev, dmesg
[10:13] <ajax4> !nvidia
[10:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:13] <avis> Gasten if you use the alternate cd then i think you can escape the automated process somehow and manually select write grub
[10:13] <yango> !manuals
[10:13] <martin__> You also have what's called 48bit LBA which limits a drive at 137.4GB. Was implemented with SP1 I think in XP
[10:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about manuals
[10:14] <lavi> wow, I have know, it's glibc-doc ,tnx
[10:14] <Gasten> avis: No, Im using the desktop CD
[10:14] <avis> martin__, what would you do to get it working ?
[10:14] <martin__> Make sure to get the latest Windows updates and you should be fine
[10:14] <avis> martin__, take into consideration that windows is treating it as a scsi device
[10:14] <yango> lavi, next time you can apt-cache search pthread manual
[10:15] <ajax4> avis: I'd use gparted and try to break it up into 3 smaller partitions and see if you are still having problems.
[10:15] <lavi> yango, cool .
[10:15] <whitehorseNtiger> Quick question.  I have some simple avi videos off my digital camera.  Mplayer and totem views the videos without a problem.  I would like a program to combine two videos into one.  Any FREE software suggestions?
[10:15] <martin__> Wasn't this a regular external USB connected IDE/PATA HDD?
[10:15] <avis> Gasten i think you can mount your / patition under the live cd and update-grub from there though others might have more knowledge about that than myself i've never done it before
[10:15] <swadhin> yango, yes i am using X
[10:15] <MoxJet> is there an apt-get for open office?
[10:16] <avis> martin__, nope this is a usb powered 2.5 laptop drive
[10:16] <ajax4> avis: The only other thing I could think of is if your external hard drive is USB 2.0 and your USB port is only 1.1....I've had sync issues under those circumstances.
[10:16] <Gasten> Yes Ive seen something lika that, but you cant do it after install?
[10:16] <martin__> Aah
[10:16] <avis> ajax4, you know the connectors in front of the pc case that are cheaply made ?  is it possible that if those are connected to usb 2.0 connectors that they throttle down to 1.1 ?
[10:17] <martin__> Why would it be recognized as a SCSI drive? You have a SCSI controller in the notebook?? Or just in the mounting case for the disk?
[10:18] <avis> ajax4, you struck a cord of me i had never conceived of.  this is the first time i've tried to format from the front usb ports.  perhap there are technical limitations to cheap usb ports mounted in front that brings a 2.0 down to 1.1
[10:18] <avis> because i've tried everything and i thought it all should work
[10:18] <simmerz> does ubuntu support installing with evms, or does it need installing afterwards? debian evms-udeb doesn't work, so wondering if the ubuntu one does.
[10:19] <ajax4> avis: I've had issues before with highspeed drives on old 1.1 ports...I don't know if that is the problem you are having, just speculating.
[10:20] <avis> ajax4, well this is the ata6 spec for laptop drives and 16megs of cache so perhaps thats something to consider.  though i've got a gut feeling that if i use the back of the computer to format it that i'm home free.
[10:21] <avis> also my windows machine usb ports are set to high speed and neither of my ubuntu workstations have the high speed usb option in the bios.  the only one that does is the windows box which is a 64 bit athlon
[10:21] <Pupeno> Hello.
[10:21] <Pupeno> Is it possible that as soon as I enable Xinerama I lots 3D and 2D acceleration (switching back to the mesa implementation) ? (using an Ati card and the fglrx driver)
[10:21] <ajax4> avis: Its definitely worth looking into. Good luck.
[10:22] <avis> ajax4, thanks so much its people like you that make channels like this worthwhile.
[10:22] <swadhin> yango, how to use these
[10:22] <ajax4> avis: You're welcome :) Hope it works out for you.
[10:23] <luis> hola
[10:23] <cyberix> What is this "app-install-data-commercial". Has someone bought Opera and Realplayer licenses to entire Ubuntu user community?
[10:23] <swadhin> yango, Xorg gives an error msg saying that server already running at 0
[10:23] <swadhin> dmesg is not there
[10:24] <swadhin> udev is silently exiting from execution
[10:24] <avis> i have a very heavy 21" CRT and its on a very sturdy plastic type table top with thin steel legs and i'm wondering if i got my dad to make my a desk out of plywood and 2x4's if that would be a viable option.  it wouldn't be smooth or executive but i'd be using a mousepad :/
[10:24] <swadhin> dmesg is there
[10:24] <narfmaster> cyberix, i think that's just info about what packages are commercial for "Add/Remove"
[10:24] <yango> cyberix, dpkg -L app-install-data-commercial
[10:25] <cyberix> narfmaster: X-Chat is commercial too I think.
[10:25] <vikash> hi friends
[10:25] <avis> its commerical for windows
[10:25] <narfmaster> cyberix, only for windows :)
[10:25] <avis> i registered mine
[10:25] <cyberix> Still
[10:25] <avis> may xchat builds for windows are free
[10:25] <avis> many
[10:25] <vikash> i was updating synaptic extra repositories
[10:25] <cyberix> yango: Thats what I did. Found that there is a repository source
[10:25] <vikash>  now i m getting this error
[10:25] <vikash> E: Malformed line 37 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[10:25] <vikash> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[10:25] <vikash> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[10:25] <cyberix> yango: http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[10:26] <vikash> plz help
[10:26] <kambei_> There is a Gnome panel app that shows the round-trip speeds to various hosts.  I can't recall the name.  Anyone know?
[10:26] <avis> gnome-xchat is quite a nice client in my opinion but it lacks too many feaures that are practical.
[10:26] <vikash> i m getting this error in synaptic
[10:26] <vikash> E: Malformed line 37 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[10:26] <vikash> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[10:26] <vikash> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[10:26] <XVampireX> Hey, quick, how can I open an FTP server?
[10:26] <yango> vikash, the line 37 in the file is malformed
[10:27] <avis> XVampireX, you mean what ports ?
[10:27] <vikash> how should i edit
[10:27] <yango> monitors should come with a big red sign "Please read the messages thrown by applications carefully"
[10:27] <KenSentMe> XVampireX: in nautilus go to Places --> network services (or something)
[10:27] <XVampireX> avis: well, either an FTP or an HTTP server where I can serve a file
[10:27] <yango> vikash, with vi, nano, joe, emacs, ed, gedit, kate
[10:27] <vikash> ok
[10:28] <narfmaster> XVampireX, install proftpd
[10:28] <kuzmaster> hello all
[10:28] <KenSentMe> XVampireX: oh, you want to set up one.
[10:28] <XVampireX> No, I need something quick
[10:28] <narfmaster> then use gproftpd to set it up
[10:28] <ajax4> kambei_:  Go to system > Administration > Network tools and look at the ping command
[10:28] <avis> is that all you need ?  i have a domain being hosted not doing anything with good enough bandwidth.  it wouldn't be practical though for a sources.list generator.  but if you need to borrow it you may
[10:28] <KenSentMe> XVampireX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FtpServer
[10:28] <XVampireX> thanks
[10:28] <swadhin> yango, i got some message from dmesg "input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0
[10:28] <swadhin> "
[10:28] <swadhin> and
[10:28] <kambei_> ajax4: I'm looking for the name of a particular applet.
[10:28] <avis> XVampireX, if you are registered, msg me
[10:29] <swadhin> yango: and "mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice"
[10:29] <ajax4> kambei_:  Its called gnome(dash)nettool
[10:29] <kambei_> Thank you, sir.
[10:30] <kuzmaster> i have just installed ubuntu 6.06 dapper drake, and after (hopefully) configuring my wireless card, setting it as the deafult, activating it, and restarting it, it wont boot
[10:30] <ajax4> kambei_: np
[10:30] <kuzmaster> it just gets stuck on somthing about networking
[10:30] <yango> swadhin, have you tried dpkg-reconfigure Xorg ?
[10:30] <swadhin> yango: no
[10:30] <yango> swadhin, do mice and keyboard work in non-X environment (pressing ctrl-alt-F1)
[10:30] <yango> well duh
[10:31] <yango> that can't be tested unless you edit /etc/inittab
[10:31] <kuzmaster> somthing like starting network, or starting network devices
[10:31] <yango> kuzmaster, if you press ctrl-c while it is doing that?
[10:31] <kuzmaster> this is at the first splash screen
[10:32] <kuzmaster> the ubuntu at the top
[10:32] <swadhin> yango: i am not able to press ctrl-alt-F1
[10:32] <swadhin> yango: since the keyboard is not working
[10:32] <swadhin> yango: i tried with the recovery mode
[10:32] <swadhin> yango: even that is not working
[10:33] <peter84> Anyone using krita?
[10:34] <peter84> ive got a problem using the dublivate brush. It cant dublicate! Only draws a white line
[10:35] <ZombieLenin> Anyone know if theres a program to use an ISDN line in ubuntu
[10:35] <Sub> !isdn
[10:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about isdn
[10:35] <wheelswitch> what can i use in ubunto to make a data cd?
[10:36] <ZombieLenin> neither do I, thats the problem
[10:36] <wheelswitch> ubuntu even
[10:36] <ZombieLenin> I didn't realise people still used them
[10:36] <wheelswitch> !dc
[10:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about dc
[10:36] <wheelswitch> !cd
[10:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about cd
[10:36] <narfmaster> !isdnutils
[10:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about isdnutils
[10:37] <narfmaster> well, isdnutils should be the main package
[10:37] <ZombieLenin> damn, i can't believe I just talked to the bot. Its too early in the morning
[10:37] <ZombieLenin> thanks
[10:37] <EnsilZah> Question: How do i remove all the older kernel options from GRUB?
[10:38] <ajax4> wheelswitch: Use the nautilus cd burning tool
[10:38] <Pupeno> Is it possible to send windows from one monitor to the other in a non-xinerama set-up ?
[10:38] <kuzmaster> yango, ok ill try that
[10:38] <spades> EnsilZah you can manually remove them from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:38] <EnsilZah> Alright, thanks.
[10:38] <spades> EnsilZah you may need to run update-grub when youre done with editing
[10:39] <wheelswitch> ajax4:  thanks,
[10:39] <ajax4> wheelswitch: np. Do you know how to bring it up?
[10:39] <avis> i got my ubuntu cd's.  i discovered that modprobing monitors are more accurate when installing through live cd than with alternate text based cd.  for the first time i got different refresh rate options.
[10:41] <kuzmaster> brb
[10:41] <narfmaster> is there a gnome program like kommando?
[10:41] <yango> yeah gummando
[10:42] <narfmaster> hmm
[10:42] <narfmaster> yango, seriously?
[10:42] <yango> nope
[10:42] <yango> there is a menu editor thoguh
[10:42] <yango> though
[10:42] <fender__> er... anyone using edgy now? can't change IM after the upgrade today
[10:43] <fender__> want to know if there's any workaround for this problem
[10:46] <panzar> how can I start a graphical app with sudo privileges in ubuntu?
[10:46] <panzar> im used to kdesu in Kubuntu
[10:46] <narfmaster> panzar, gksu
[10:46] <panzar> aight
[10:46] <panzar> should i use that in xubuntu too?
[10:47] <narfmaster> i think so
[10:47] <panzar> ok, thanks a lot
[10:47] <narfmaster> if you use gdm, that is
[10:47] <ajax4> wouldn't it be gksudo?
[10:47] <narfmaster> either will work
[10:47] <panzar> ye, what's the difference? :)
[10:47] <narfmaster> gksu is easier to type
[10:47] <narfmaster> :)
[10:47] <panzar> aight :)
[10:48] <peter81> Really no one using krita
[10:48] <peter81> ?
[10:48] <narfmaster> i use The Gimp
[10:49] <peter81> Damn i thought i fund some good stuff, and then i cant even clone!
[10:49] <linopil> !emule
[10:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about emule
[10:49] <zcat[1] > !amule
[10:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about amule
[10:49] <linopil> what emule 2 install in ubuntu?
[10:49] <ajax4> linopil: amule
[10:49] <linopil> k
[10:50] <linopil> 10x working
[10:50] <linuxuser> are linux av scanners primarily designed to pick up windows viruses ? or are there actual linux viruses and trojans out there than can sneak on to your system?
[10:50] <r_m_r> hello everyone :-)
[10:51] <ajax4> linuxuser: They're primarily for Windows viruses.
[10:51] <narfmaster> linuxuser, there are linux viruses
[10:51] <ajax4> r_m_r: hello
[10:51] <narfmaster> but they are easily avoided
[10:51] <corran> linuxuser: there are some, but mostly Proof of Concept
[10:51] <linuxuser> ajax, is this why they usually pick up win32codecs as viruses?
[10:51] <zcat[1] > linuxuser: there's a few linux worms but they mostly target php apps.. things like clamav are for scanning for windows viruses on samba shares and email servers..
[10:52] <ajax4> linuxuser: Not sure about that.
[10:52] <linuxuser> ive always picked up win32codecs as viruses using aegis av
[10:52] <r_m_r> hi i've heard about linux viruses and root kits. any root kit scanners packaged with  ubuntu ?
[10:53] <narfmaster> i think checking for rootkits is more effective on a live CD
[10:53] <Hoxzer> r_m_r: linux virurses are pretty far apart
[10:53] <panzar> gksu synaptic
[10:53] <panzar> Failed to run synaptic
[10:53] <panzar> Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file
[10:53] <narfmaster> panzar, is gdm running?
[10:53] <panzar> nope
[10:53] <narfmaster> there you go
[10:53] <zcat[1] > afaik there are no 'desktop user' viruses for linux, they mostly attack webservers (phpbb and so on)
[10:53] <panzar> alright :)
[10:54] <avis> r_m_r, yes chkrootkit is available through the repos
[10:54] <panzar> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:54] <panzar> Not starting GDM: it's no the default display manager
[10:54] <r_m_r> avis: thanks for that info. well yes i know that the linux viruses are few right now. read some where that more viruses will start appearing once linux becomes a popular desktop os...
[10:54] <panzar> bah :)
[10:55] <panzar> it's a kubuntu and xubuntu installation
[10:55] <avis> r_m_r, thats why you have to always trust your source for software
[10:55] <zcat[1] > there will be some viruses for linux once it becomes more popular; but it's a whole different design. I don't think they'll ever become the problem they are with windows.
[10:55] <avis> and do vedic chanting for the security experts in the evening
[10:55] <kaot> r_m_r: more like start appearing *if* it becomes popular
[10:56] <mehulved> I am having a problem installing some drivers in linux. can anyone help?
[10:56] <ajax4> I agree with zcat[1] ...I don't think it will ever be as bad as for Windows
[10:56] <kaot> which still and all, i'd be amazed if it ever got over 25%, and windows will always present a more inviting target.
[10:56] <zcat[1] > *as* it becomes more popular; linux has been leaping ahead on servers and is making steady gains on the desktop
[10:56] <r_m_r> avis: well i guess you are right about the selection of sources. i've only downloaded stuff from the default repositories..
[10:56] <kaot> zcat[1] : define "steady gains"
[10:56] <kaot> zcat[1] : I know about the server side of things; that doesn't count
[10:57] <avis> well alot of windows people are scared that microsoft is gonna pull the plug on all the pirated operating systems.  there are more piracy warnings and they stopped "calling home" verifiying authenticity.
[10:57] <ajax4> kaot: Linux as already passed OSX on the desktop
[10:57] <ajax4> kaot: as=has
[10:57] <aeon17x> ajax4: Who told you that?
[10:57] <apikoros> hi, i'm running kubuntu breezy and want to convert to _ubuntu_ (i.e. gnome) dapper. i changed all references from breezy to dapper in sources.list and i've apt-get update'ed. now, how can i switch to ubuntu? apt-get dist-upgrade will simply upgrade kubuntu..
[10:57] <avis> just use your best judgement.
[10:57] <mehulved> I am getting errors installing netomodem drivers in ubuntu. can anyone help here?
[10:57] <charle97> ajax4: what's your source?
[10:57] <kaot> ajax4: no kiddin?  got a link for that or...?   that's cool if it's true
[10:57] <ajax4> I'll see if I can find it.
[10:57] <kaot> but i'd be surprised.  very
[10:58] <yango> apikoros, remove kubuntu-desktop before upgrading?
[10:58] <r_m_r> kaot: what ajax4 told is true. i've read that some time back (last year?). sorry, can't remember where exactly that i read that...
[10:58] <apikoros> yango, let me try that. i don't have gnome installed, though
[10:58] <zcat[1] > linux counter has the numbers. I personally know a lot of people who are running linux or trying it out who were 100% windows not long ago. It's definately growing
[10:59] <charle97> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[10:59] <kaot> buddy of mine just did his first linux install.  FC I think.
[10:59] <irvin> apikoros, did `apt-get update` finish?
[10:59] <kaot> tried to talk him into slack, he wasn't having it :\
[10:59] <kuzmaster> when i do control+c at the splash screen to skip initilizing network devices (or similar), after i login, it just gets stuck on a brown screen
[11:00] <kuzmaster> any help?
[11:00] <avis> i would like to see ubuntu server being deployed on the mainstream market for web servers with things like cpanel, php, mysql, fantastico, etc.  need to give fedora a run for the money :)
[11:01] <kuzmaster> avis, can you help me?
[11:01] <avis> kuzmaster, i'm not sure let me scroll up
[11:01] <kuzmaster> ok
[11:01] <r_m_r> avis: talking about servers, does ubuntu have anything similar to selinux in fc?
[11:01] <corran> ok, anyone have thoughts on how to debug the weird Xorg not dying on session logout?
[11:02] <avis> kuzmaster, i think you may have killed something you weren't supposed to
[11:02] <avis> i dont know r_m_r
[11:02] <kuzmaster> :o
[11:02] <avis> i'm not new to ubuntu but i haven't gotten serious until recently.
[11:02] <r_m_r> i used to use fc3 on desktop. then switched to ubuntu and loving it :-)
[11:02] <kuzmaster> i killed somthing like initilizing network devices
[11:02] <narfmaster> SELinux was specifically developed for FC
[11:03] <avis> kuzmaster, ok.  then instead of killing them why dont you disable them ?
[11:03] <apikoros> fc suxors, rpm < apt
[11:03] <kuzmaster> how
[11:03] <ToHellWithGA> i need help using sed on an expression containing apostrophes
[11:03] <kuzmaster> please remember that i can get into ubuntu, but i am in kubuntu now
[11:03] <ToHellWithGA> ryan@ryan-ubuntu606:/largedrive/CD_Rips$ sed -i 's/D\'Angelo\ -\ Brown\ Sugar\ \[1995\] \\//g' Brown\ Sugar.cue
[11:03] <kaot> erm.... afaik selinux has been around for a while, originated by the NSA, prior to FC's existence
[11:04] <avis> i dont know how to do it via terminal but i can easily control network interfaces in any X session under networking but you can nano /etc/networking/interfaces too
[11:04] <r_m_r> narfmaster, IIRC SElinux was developed by NSA( not sure though).
[11:04] <corran> it was
[11:04] <narfmaster> i read the NSA site info, actually :)
[11:04] <kuzmaster> avis, thanx........
[11:04] <kaot> and nothing to do with any distro
[11:04] <ToHellWithGA> i have to get sed to recognize "D'Angelo" as part of an expression rather than using the apostrophe as a delimiter
[11:04] <apikoros> ToHellWithGA, that doesn't work?
[11:04] <kaot> just kernel enhancements
[11:04] <Seba> Hi, i have a problem with network-manager.. i changed my notebook (in the older one it works great). Now network-manager doest not seems to recognize the ethernet card, where should i start looking at?
[11:04] <kaot> ToHellWithGA: backslash escape?
[11:04] <kaot> D\'Angelo
[11:04] <yango> is there a good alternative to Gnome Terminal that works fine ? I want Konsole's functionality (search in history, etc.)
[11:04] <zcat[1] > selinux-utils - SELinux utility programs
[11:04] <ToHellWithGA> yeah it doesn't work like that
[11:04] <apikoros> kaot, he already has that
[11:05] <apikoros> ToHellWithGA, try enclosing the whole regexp with double quotes and removing the escapes
[11:05] <ToHellWithGA> it goes into a little > as if it's awaiting more commands
[11:05] <apikoros> so sed -i "s/D'angelo/whatever/" filename.cue
[11:05] <zcat[1] > I believe the stock kernels in ubuntu have selinux and there are utils to use it..
[11:05] <avis> what would be really neat in ubuntu would be clustering
[11:05] <ToHellWithGA> apikoros: no dice
[11:05] <avis> clustering kernels
[11:06] <r_m_r> zcat: how to configure the selinux policies in ubuntu server, any ideas?
[11:06] <apikoros> ToHellWithGA, let me experiment
[11:06] <linopil> !flashplugin
[11:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about flashplugin
[11:06] <ToHellWithGA> sed -i "s/D'Angelo - Brown Sugar [1995] \//g" Brown\ Sugar.cue gave me an unterminated command
[11:06] <linopil> !flashplayer
[11:06] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:06] <zcat[1] > 'apt-cache search selinux' will give you lots of stuff related to it. I've never used it.
[11:06] <avis> apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree with multiverse
[11:06] <zcat[1] > !selinux
[11:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about selinux
[11:06] <ToHellWithGA> !info selinux
[11:06] <ubotu> Package selinux does not exist in dapper
[11:06] <zcat[1] > .. neither has ubout :)
[11:06] <apikoros> ToHellWithGA, it just worked for me
[11:06] <zcat[1] > *ubotu
[11:07] <ToHellWithGA> apikoros: on what file?
[11:07] <narfmaster> i guess you'd use checkpolicy to configure selinux
[11:07] <ToHellWithGA> FILE "D'Angelo - Brown Sugar [1995] \10 - D'Angelo - Higher.wav" WAVE < - that's a line it will be working on
[11:07] <zcat[1] > !info selinux-utils
[11:07] <ubotu> selinux-utils: SELinux utility programs. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.28-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 35 kB, installed size 192 kB
[11:07] <Seba> any ideas why network-manager doesn't detect my ethernet connection? i already commented /etc/networking/interfaces (all but "lo")
[11:08] <apikoros> golem ~ # cat somefile
[11:08] <apikoros> D'angelo
[11:08] <apikoros> golem ~ # sed -i "s/D'angelo/pooky/g" somefile
[11:08] <apikoros> golem ~ # cat somefile
[11:08] <apikoros> pooky
[11:08] <apikoros> golem ~ #
[11:08] <apikoros> woops, sorry for flood :/
[11:08] <avis> Seba, i wasn't aware that was how you got it working.  if anyone else has anything to comment on it i'd sure like to know i assume network-monitor-gnome ?
[11:08] <ToHellWithGA> apikoros: but i don't need a replace
[11:08] <ToHellWithGA> i'm on a search and destroy mission and it worked as such earlier but isn't doing it now
[11:08] <apikoros> you need to crop the directory, yeah?
[11:08] <ToHellWithGA> right
[11:09] <kuzmaster> !wireless
[11:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:09] <r_m_r> ubotu:thanx 4 the info. selinux was difficult to configure the last time i tried it. moreover there's the added penalty of poor performance(esp if u've a graphical environment). guess that's why it isn't very popular.
[11:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu:thanx 4 the info. selinux was difficult to configure the last time i tried it. moreover there's the added penalty of poor performance(esp if u've a graphical environment). guess that's why it isn't very popular.
[11:09] <apikoros> ToHellWithGA, ok, experimenting with your line
[11:09] <Seba> avis: network-manager switch between wireless/wired networks
[11:09] <linopil> !multiverse
[11:09] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:09] <ToHellWithGA> i could do something in python that would remove everything between 'FILE "' and the first "\" but that'd be silly for me
[11:09] <narfmaster> lol
[11:09] <linopil> !easysource
[11:09] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:09] <avis> Seba, ahh ok.  yes.  the only one i tried in gnome was network-manager-gnome and i could never get it to work
[11:10] <avis> i thought i tried a network-manager but dont remember it being available
[11:11] <Seba> it doesn't seem to recognize my ethernet card.. don't know why, it works ok when configured in interfaces :(
[11:11] <apikoros> ToHellWithGA, hmm, i got it to crop everything but the \ with: sed -i "s/D'Angelo - Brown Sugar \[1995\] //g" somefile
[11:11] <ElBrujo> how can i activate the tree butons emulation?
[11:11] <ToHellWithGA> apikoros: i don't see why it would choke on the \
[11:11] <avis> Seba, i'd try the forums, and reverify the package name.
[11:11] <ToHellWithGA> particularly if i was escaping everything
[11:11] <avis> ubuntuforums.org
[11:12] <avis> perhaps the only reason i'm thinkings its network-manager-gnome is because that included wpa supplicant as a dependency.
[11:12] <zcat[1] > and \\\] 
[11:12] <apikoros> ok, it works!
[11:12] <Hoxzer> ElBrujo: you mean for mouse?
[11:12] <apikoros> sed -i "s/D'Angelo - Brown Sugar \[1995\] \\\//g" somefile
[11:12] <apikoros> ^^^ try that
[11:12] <pramirez> OLA
[11:13] <kaot> erm...
[11:13] <ajax4> Later guys
[11:13] <kaot> ToHellWithGA: I just tested using quotes (") and it worked
[11:13] <avis> goodnite ajax4
[11:13] <ToHellWithGA> kaot: what line did you use?
[11:13] <kaot> jpb@lapdog:~$ cat file | sed s/"D'angelo"/"crap"/
[11:13] <kaot> crap
[11:13] <apikoros> ToHellWithGA, my line works
[11:13] <kaot> that iwas it.
[11:13] <ToHellWithGA> kaot: you're missing the point, but i appreciate your help
[11:13] <kaot> well it isn't bailingon teh '
[11:14] <ToHellWithGA> you're on page 2, apikoros and i are on 3
[11:14] <kaot> right.
[11:14] <apikoros> you need to double-escape the slash for some obscure reason
[11:14] <zcat[1] > If you want to change a \, you have to feed sed a \\
[11:15] <apikoros> zcat[1] , it appears you have to feed sed a \\\
[11:15] <apikoros> ToHellWithGA, did you try it, or what?
[11:15] <zcat[1] > Sometimes you have to feed the shell a \\\ to get a \\ through to sed which will interpret it as a \\
[11:15] <zcat[1] > err \ I mean
[11:15] <apikoros> that's what i thought.
[11:16] <ToHellWithGA> it's passing but doesn't appear to be doing the substitution now
[11:16] <ToHellWithGA> ryan@ryan-ubuntu606:/largedrive/CD_Rips$ sed -i "s/D\'Angelo\ -\ Brown\ Sugar\ \[1995\] \\\//g" Brown\ Sugar.cue
[11:18] <ALDI> Hi guys. I'd like to have php to communicate with oracle (on a second machin), and I followed the howto on http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-92528.html . Now I get a error when I try to "make"
[11:18] <zcat[1] > every time a \\ gets interpreted by bash, it becomes a \ .. \\\\\\ becomes \\\\, the next shell \\\\ becomes \\. Third time around \\ becomes a \.
[11:18] <zcat[1] > let me know when it gets confusing for you :)
[11:18] <ToHellWithGA> zcat[1] : apikoros got it figured out
[11:18] <svar> hello
[11:19] <ALDI> usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /opt/oracle/instantclient/libclntsh.so when searching for -lclntsh
[11:19] <ToHellWithGA> he put the expression in quotes then escaped only the square brackets and extra escaped the slash
[11:19] <apikoros> w3rd
[11:19] <svar> what is on the dvd image of ubuntu? both desktop and server?
[11:19] <nao> Hi, I'm trying DESPERATELY to turn off tapping on my synaptics pad, and I added the line "Option      "MaxTapTime=0"" to xorg.conf, but all the online guides say that I need the driver to be synaptics and the identifier synaptics touchpad, but I don't know how to install the synaptics drivers or whatever
[11:20] <nao> any help will make me love you forever
[11:21] <ccui> hello,how can I configure my locale use 'dpkg-reconfigure locales'?I can not choose the locales.
[11:21] <beezly> ALDI: what does uname -p say?
[11:21] <oskude> nao, the install package for synaptic drivers is "xserver-xorg-input-synaptics" (or "xfree86-driver-synaptics")
[11:21] <beezly> ALDI: and also if you do "file /opt/oracle/instantclient/libclntsh.so"
[11:22] <kuzmaster> avis, how do i disable my wireless card in the /etc/networking/interfaces
[11:22] <ALDI> beezly: unknown
[11:22] <cualquiernic> hello,how can I use terminal server client?
[11:22] <nao> oskude:  if I get that from the synaptic package thingathang, will it automatically replace the driver "mouse" with "synaptics" so that I can just manually edit the line in xorg.info and it'll work?
[11:23] <beezly> ALDI: sorry, not uname -p - i meant uname -m
[11:23] <ccui> I am going to create more locales,how coud i do it? in debian i can use dpkg-reconfigure locales...?
[11:23] <oskude> kuzmaster, maybe commenting it out, add a # before the lines you want to comment out
[11:23] <kuzmaster> ok, thnax
[11:23] <ALDI> sparc64
[11:23] <kuzmaster> so comment out somthing like r0?
[11:23] <oskude> nao, i doubt it will be automaticly added/replaced in xorg.conf
[11:23] <beezly> ok, what does file "/opt/oracle/instantclient/libclntsh.so" tell you?
[11:24] <ALDI> beezly: "/opt/oracle/instantclient/libclntsh.so: symbolic link to `libclntsh.so.10.1'"
[11:24] <dibblego> when I set my wireless settings in the GNOME dialog, which files exactly get updated? I need to do the same thing but with Ubuntu Server
[11:24] <beezly> ALDI: heh - ok - how about "file /opt/oracle/instantclient/libclntsh.so.10.1"
[11:24] <zcat[1] > dibblego: /etc/network/interfaces
[11:25] <dibblego> zcat[1] , any other files?
[11:25] <nao> oskude:  ok, thanks, when I opened the synaptic package manager, I have both xfree86-driver-synaptics and xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, the xserver one is already installed, and the xfree86 one says that to install it, it has to unistall the xserver one
[11:25] <zcat[1] > not afaik
[11:25] <nao> sorry, I'm really new, and kinda frustrated
[11:25] <dibblego> zcat[1] , then how does it bring a new network interface up?
[11:25] <ALDI> beezly: /opt/oracle/instantclient/libclntsh.so.10.1: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped
[11:26] <zcat[1] > they're all listed there, etho, ra0, etc...
[11:26] <oskude> nao, roger, i think the "xserver-xorg-input-synaptics" is the "right" one (no need for the other)
[11:26] <beezly> ALDI: there's the problem you have - your hardware is sparc64 - but you are trying to build against Intel 80386 libraries.
[11:26] <dibblego> zcat[1] , sure, but modifying the file won't automatically bring a network interface up surely?
[11:26] <oskude> nao, dont you have "synaptic" anywhere in your xorg.conf ?
[11:26] <dibblego> is there some command to make the change effective?
[11:26] <beezly> ALDI: I suspect that you have bigger problems though - I have a feeling Oracle haven't got a build of instantclient for Sparc Linux
[11:26] <ALDI> beezly: Ah, I see, thanks so far. What package do I have to download again?
[11:26] <zcat[1] > yep, if it has 'auto ra0' it will on reboot.
[11:26] <nao> oskude: so I just need to change the lines to 'Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad"' and 'driver "synaptics"'?
[11:27] <beezly> ALDI: I'll just double check - but you might be stuck
[11:27] <ALDI> beezly: thanks!!
[11:27] <zcat[1] > to bring it up manually, ifup ra0
[11:27] <nao> oskude, as far as I can tell, I don't have anything mentioning synaptics in my thing
[11:27] <dibblego> ah thanks
[11:27] <oskude> nao, identifier is just text (can be what ever) ... i wouldnt replace "mouse" with synaptics, then you cant use any mouse...
[11:27] <kuzmaster> what do i comment out to disable my wireless card (dlink) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17400
[11:27] <Shere`Khan> when i try to start ubuntu the desktop doesn`t load it sais that is a problem with X server ...
[11:28] <oskude> nao, dont have my notebook here, so cant say how it exactly looks like, the settings for synaptic...
[11:28] <linopil>  Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[11:28] <avis> you have to enable multiverse
[11:28] <kuzmaster> any one?
[11:28] <avis> see restriced formats in the wiki
[11:29] <linopil> how exactly multiverse
[11:29] <oskude> nao, but if you dont ever use your mouse, then just change the driver to "synaptic" (or is it "synaptics"
[11:29] <zcat[1] > kuzmaster: get rid of 'auto ra0'
[11:29] <kuzmaster> ok
[11:29] <kuzmaster> thanx
[11:29] <beezly> ALDI: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/oci/instantclient/index.html - Oracle haven't got a build of their client for Linux SPARC :(
[11:29] <linopil> !multiverse
[11:29] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:29] <swadhin> yango: no success
[11:29] <nao> oskude: ok, a couple of things, I installed off the alternate install disk so that I could select my resolutions from a larger list, I don't know that it would change anything that would put I'm just thinking maybe pertain to this, but the other thing that I'm worried about is that while I've been trying this earlier and it keeps messing up my xserver.
[11:29] <zcat[1] > or just 'ifdown ra0' if you only want it down temporarily..
[11:29] <nao> oskude: I usually use my touchpad, I just find tapping very frustrating
[11:30] <zcat[1] > (as root, ie.. sudo ifdown ra0)
[11:30] <ALDI> beezly: That's bad :-( and I can't use the solaris sparc 64-bit version?
[11:30] <swadhin> yango: i am booting the machine in single user mode
[11:30] <swadhin> lets see if it is working
[11:30] <oskude> nao, what the "text mode" install does (for x settings) is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:30] <Shere`Khan> when i try to start ubuntu the desktop doesn`t load it sais that is a problem with X server ...can anybody help me ????
[11:30] <beezly> ALDI: no - sadly it won't work
[11:31] <kuzmaster> zcat[1] , yeah, but i cant get into ubunbtu
[11:31] <nao> oskude: ok, after saving this and stuff, can I just restart xserver without restarting linux
[11:31] <nao> masterc
[11:31] <ALDI> beezly: ok, thank you very much for your help. So I cannot make a connection from the sparc ubuntu machine with php to an oracle db, right?
[11:31] <nao> is that you chris?  Dis is eliot
[11:31] <MasterC> hi
[11:31] <oskude> Shere`Khan, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:31] <nao> ey buddy, how's it goin?
[11:32] <zcat[1] > how did you pastebin that if you can't get into ubuntu?
[11:32] <oskude> nao, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:32] <beezly> ALDI: certainly not using oracle's client - there might be some other clever way to do it, but i'm not sure.
[11:32] <beezly> ALDI: you could try asking oracle :/ you never know, it might work!
[11:33] <ALDI> beezly: Asking oracle :-) Don't think they would code it for me, thanks anyway
[11:33] <Shere`Khan> where to paste it ?
[11:33] <Shere`Khan> here ?
[11:33] <beezly> ALDI: yeah - it is unlikely, but you never know!
[11:33] <oskude> !paste
[11:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:33] <nao> oskude, ok, great, thanks, if by chance my xserver blows itself up again, and I can't get into Gnome like has happened before, is there any easy way to fix xserver without completely reinstalling ubunut?
[11:33] <Shere`Khan> ok
[11:34] <zcat[1] > nao: log in to a console and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:34] <avis> the best you can do is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg under sudo -i
[11:34] <oskude> nao, as i said "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" (or restore your backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf, as i hope you do backups before you edit files...))
[11:34] <avis> i have however found that installing from a live cd has better hardware detection than installing from a text based alternate cd.
[11:35] <nao> oskude: ok great, thanks a ton
[11:36] <snikker> i've recompiled the kernel with the config file found in /boot, but when it start i don't see nothing, only when xserver start i can see the display... what's mean?
[11:36] <Shere`Khan> done
[11:36] <Shere`Khan> i pastebin
[11:36] <oskude> Shere`Khan, then give us the link
[11:37] <Shere`Khan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17402
[11:37] <discor1> anybody own a dell e1505 or 1705 in here?
[11:37] <Shere`Khan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17401
[11:37] <oskude> Shere`Khan, reading...
[11:37] <dibblego> http://rafb.net/paste/results/m989V624.html after ifup rausb0, I cannot see my router - yet I know it all works with ubuntu-desktop with exactly the same hardware because I set it up
[11:37] <apikoros> snikker, probably your framebuffer is not configured properlyt
[11:38] <AlexC> Hey
[11:38] <AlexC> How do I extract a .rar file that has a password?
[11:38] <snikker> apikoros: the strange thing is that the frame buffer is enabled...
[11:39] <oskude> Shere`Khan, hmm, how did you install ubuntu ? (this is one of the problems "No Input driver matching `kbd'")
[11:39] <Shere`Khan> it works ..
[11:39] <Shere`Khan> about 1 mounth
[11:40] <oskude> Shere`Khan, what did you do before it stopped to work ?
[11:40] <narfmaster> AlexC, unrar -p
[11:40] <Shere`Khan> an upgrade
[11:40] <oskude> Shere`Khan, what does "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-kbd" say ?
[11:40] <Shere`Khan> ...
[11:41] <Shere`Khan> dnt know:P
[11:41] <oskude> Shere`Khan, type it on the terminal and press enter
[11:41] <AlexC> narfmaster, command not found
[11:41] <Shere`Khan> argh
[11:41] <narfmaster> AlexC, apt-get it
[11:41] <Shere`Khan> i must restart ...
[11:41] <Haiku> i there
[11:41] <AlexC> narfmaster, yeh just did,
[11:41] <Shere`Khan> back in a flash >:)
[11:41] <Haiku> i m looking for some help...
[11:42] <dli> !ask
[11:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:42] <oskude> Shere`Khan, ill go smoke, back in few mins
[11:42] <Haiku> I have an hard time installing my yamaha sound card
[11:42] <Haiku> i read the help
[11:42] <Haiku> Comprehensive Sound Problem Solutions Guide v0.5a
[11:43] <AlexC> narfmaster, that doesn't work
[11:43] <Haiku> at one point this guide ask to  apt-get "module-assistant" and "alsa-source"
[11:43] <Haiku> but neither of this package could be found by my apt-get
[11:43] <Haiku> it is normal ?
[11:43] <Haiku> did i miss something ?
[11:43] <theshibboleth> Someone unplugged the power on my computer today while it was in use and now it's not able to launch any large programs. What should I do?
[11:44] <theshibboleth> By "in use" I really just mean that the power was on.
[11:44] <narfmaster> AlexC, unrar x -p[password]  archive.rar
[11:45] <Haiku> anyone ?
[11:45] <Knome> theshibboleth: first I would test your ram: memtest86+ or memtester
[11:45] <narfmaster> Haiku, you need multiverse enabled in the repos
[11:45] <narfmaster> err universe
[11:46] <MoxJet> z<
[11:46] <Haiku> repo of apt-get ?
[11:46] <oskude> Haiku, then try "apt-cache search alsa source"
[11:46] <nao> oskude:  ok, so I tried editing it, and while xserver was fine, I had the problem that tapping is still on
[11:47] <nao> oskude: what is the line that I need to add to turn it off?
[11:47] <theshibboleth> Knome: Ok, well I did start a memtest (which I ended early) but for what it did do it didn't show any errors.
[11:47] <oskude> nao, sorry, never tried to put tapping off, so no idea what to do...
[11:47] <Haiku> ok but I don't now what "adding something to the repos" means
[11:47] <Haiku> narfmaster: If you have any pointer on that one...
[11:47] <nao> oskude:  ok, thanks a ton for everything else you've helped me with so far
[11:47] <nao> if anyone else knows the line for xorg.conf to turn tapping off, I would appreciate it
[11:48] <oskude> nao, i think it would be an option you add in the xorg.conf, try google
[11:48] <snikker> Haiku: you need to add universe repositories in your source.lis file
[11:48] <oskude> Haiku, and why do you need alsa sources ?
[11:49] <snikker> Haiku: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:49] <Shere`Khan> it says that i allready have the newest version
[11:49] <Shere`Khan> >:P
[11:49] <nao> oskude, I've seen both:      'Option "MaxTaptime=0"' and 'Option "MaxTapTime" "0"' as well as some others
[11:49] <oskude> Shere`Khan, then try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-input-kbd"
[11:49] <Haiku> I need alsa source because my snd card use ymfpci
[11:50] <Shere`Khan> ok
[11:50] <oskude> nao, the second seems xorg.conf conform
[11:51] <oskude> well, i think this would be correct: MaxTapTime "0"
[11:52] <dibblego> which file do I put my DNS servers in?
[11:52] <narfmaster> dibblego, /etc/resolv.conf
[11:52] <snikker> Haiku: open the file /etc/apt/sources.list with a text editor....
[11:52] <dibblego> ah that's it
[11:52] <dibblego> er - that file doesn't yet exist - is that a problem?
[11:53] <oskude> msg nao did you see this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27650
[11:53] <oskude> hups
[11:53] <narfmaster> dibblego, could be - are you using static IP?
[11:53] <snikker> Haiku: add the line:    deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[11:54] <kevinz> hello.. i found my ubuntu's audio/sound is not satisfactory, even the startup sound is not nice. what can i turn to to fix it.
[11:54] <dibblego> narfmaster, yes I am - I just created it an it works fine now thanks
[11:54] <snikker> Haiku: then from console apt-get update
[11:54] <narfmaster> dibblego, good :)
[11:54] <IRCMonkeyx>  i installed ubuntu 6.06 yesterday. I have  three drives C ,D, E. C and D in windows xp. E is for ubuntu. When i am at xp , i cant see E. When i am at ubuntu i see C and D but onlr read only. What should i do?
[11:54] <kuzmaster> hmmmm, why wont ubuntu work with my wireless card?
[11:54] <njan> narfmaster, bear in mind some startup scripts overwrite that
[11:54] <oskude> kevinz, you could _turn_ the volume down ;)
[11:54] <cualquiernic> how I configure desktop remote from shell?
[11:54] <dibblego> IRCMonkeyx, NTFS is read-only by default afaik
[11:54] <IRCMonkeyx>  i installed ubuntu 6.06 yesterday. I have  three drives C ,D, E.              C and D in windows xp. E is for ubuntu. When i am at xp , i cant see E. When i am at ubuntu i see C and D but onlr read only. What should i do?
[11:55] <Knome> !patience
[11:55] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:55] <Haiku> snikker: thanks I'm on it
[11:55] <apikoros> IRCMonkey, you need special drivers to read the linux partition in Windows.
[11:55] <depi> hi, I have a VCD in .bin and I want to convert it with bchunk, but it always makes 2 ISOS (one about 600kB another 700Mb) but neither of them works
[11:55] <kevinz> oskude: oh.. so there is no way to make the sound just decent?
[11:55] <kuzmaster> the strange thing is that the same card in the same machine works for kubuntu, both 6.06
[11:55] <apikoros> IRCMonkeyx, to write to Windows partitions, make sure they are not NTFS, first of all
[11:55] <oskude> IRCMonkeyx, C, D, etc. are no partitions, they are mount points, so dunno where they are...
[11:55] <Haiku> ok I'm back on track
[11:55] <cualquiernic> how I configure desktop remote from shell? .....
[11:56] <Haiku> I'll continue to follow the sound guide
[11:56] <Haiku> thanks every one ;)
[11:56] <kevinz> oskude: then ubuntu will mean no music to me..
[11:56] <oskude> kevinz, well, i didnt even understand what you want...
[11:56] <KrisWood> Hi everyone, I want to allow some co-workers access to a client directory on my ubuntu server, but I don't want them to be able to get anywhere outside that directory, is there a way I can set my permissions so they cannot access outside directories via ftp?
[11:56] <oskude> nao, did you see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27650
[11:57] <IRCMonkeyx> apikoros: could you tell me more? (my drives are ntfs)
[11:57] <narfmaster> KrisWood, that should be a feature of any decent ftpd
[11:57] <apikoros> KrisWood, yeah, it depends on your ftp server, but you can lock the user in a "virtual" root environment. check the config file for your server.
[11:57] <thefish> anyone know if there are plans on getting a xen ubuntu kernel into any apt repos?
[11:57] <apikoros> IRCMonkeyx, Microsoft keeps NTFS specs under lock and key, so write support to NTFS is currently very primitive and dangerous
[11:57] <nao> oskude: thanks, but I actually just got it worked out :)  thanks a ton for all your help, if you're interested, the driver has to be set to "synaptics" and then the line added is 'Option "MaxTapTime" "0"'
[11:57] <KrisWood> ok I'm not sure which ftpd I'm running, how do I find out?
[11:57] <dibblego> is there an option to apt-get to perform a search?
[11:57] <snikker> Haiku: np :)
[11:57] <oskude> nao, yup, just read it in the forums too :)
[11:57] <KrisWood> ah ok found it
[11:58] <thefish> dibblego: apt-cache search
[11:58] <KrisWood> proftpd
[11:58] <dibblego> thefish, cheers
[11:58] <IRCMonkeyx> apikoros: "you need special drivers to read the linux partition in Windows." i ask about this
[11:58] <KrisWood> now how do I find the config file...
[11:58] <njan> apikoros, Mark Russinovich figured it out :P
[11:58] <kevinz> oskude: oh, well the sound is always poor, i don't know how to describe it using proper words, it is either sharp or.. stuffy, and often with some noise
[11:58] <Shere`Khan> nope .. doesnt work ... it says that my X server  is not configured corectly and that it will be disabled
[11:58] <apikoros> njan, who?
[11:58] <kuzmaster> when i configure my wireless card to be done by dhcp, firefox comes out with an error straight away, but when i cofigure it witha static ip address, it just keeps loading that pages
[11:58] <apikoros> KrisWood, sec.
[11:58] <kuzmaster> or searching for it or somthing
[11:58] <narfmaster> KrisWood, /etc/proftpd.conf
[11:58] <cain__> chz
[11:58] <njan> apikoros, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Russinovich
[11:58] <oskude> kevinz, hmm, audio cable ok ? speakers ok ? the plug in soundcard ok ?
[11:59] <KrisWood> ok I found the config file :)
[11:59] <KrisWood> thanks
[11:59] <kevinz> oskude: i think they are all ok. i am using thinkpad. and i tried to use external speaker and buildin speaker
[11:59] <apikoros> KrisWood, look for this line"#DefaultRoot ~"
[11:59] <IRCMonkeyx> is there any chance when i am on xp, to to see drive E(which has ubuntu)?
[11:59] <kuzmaster> any help?
[12:00] <apikoros> IRCMonkeyx, sec
[12:00] <oskude> juhuu, i gotta go,
[12:00] <IRCMonkeyx> apikoros: ok friend
[12:00] <apikoros> KrisWood drop the '#' to uncomment it, and change ~ to /home/somedirectory
[12:00] <kuzmaster> can anyone help me with my problem
[12:00] <apikoros> (not neccessarily 'home', just using it as an example)
[12:01] <njan> apikoros, he figured out how NTFS worked and wrote his own driver for it to add NTFS support to DOS.
[12:01] <kuzmaster> anyone at all?
[12:01] <Knome> !ask
[12:01] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:01] <apikoros> kuzmaster, what is it?
[12:01] <kuzmaster> ok ,ill explain again
[12:01] <apikoros> KrisWood, save the file, then you need to restart proftpd, something like "sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd restart"
[12:01] <KrisWood> apikoros I don't understand what you mean, i already set the user's home directory to the appropriate directory on the web server, but I don't see anything about individual users in this ftp config file
[12:02] <apikoros> KrisWood, "~" expands to the specific user's home directory, so if my username is "someuser", and my home directory is "/home/someuser", and you set DefaultRoot to ~, i will be locked in /home/someuser, which to me will appear as /
[12:02] <boha_> how can i add a system tray applet to the panel in gnome?
[12:03] <kuzmaster> apikoros, when i configure my wireless card to be done by dhcp, firefox comes out with an error straight away, but when i cofigure it witha static ip address, it just keeps loading that pages
[12:03] <Shere`Khan> if i put the .iso on a CD it is bootable ?
[12:03] <kuzmaster> apikoros, or searching for it or somthing
[12:03] <kuzmaster> Shere`Khan, depends
[12:03] <apikoros> IRCMonkeyx, what file system type is your root partition? you can type "mount" with no arguments in linux to find out.
[12:03] <kuzmaster> Shere`Khan, did you download it from the ubuntu/kubuntu website?
[12:03] <Shere`Khan> yes
[12:03] <Shere`Khan> ubuntu server
[12:04] <kuzmaster> Shere`Khan, then yes, it should be bootable
[12:04] <Shere`Khan> i burn it like it is ?
[12:04] <bertu> hey
[12:04] <apikoros> KrisWood, does that make sense?
[12:04] <zcat[1] > kuzmaster: does either configuration actually work?
[12:04] <KrisWood> apikoros I do not have my web server configured to let users use their home directories as web accessable directories, i am the only user that uses the web server portion of it so I use /var/www/ and the client's files are stored in a sub directory of that
[12:04] <kuzmaster> no
[12:04] <IRCMonkeyx> apikoros: in ubuntu drive e  is ext3, my drive c is ntfs, and now chancing drive d to fat32 now
[12:05] <neuron_> hey
[12:05] <kuzmaster> im on kubuntu now, and i have read/write access to my ubuntu drive
[12:05] <neuron_> i got a problem with firefox
[12:05] <neuron_> i installed the flash plugin
[12:05] <KrisWood> I need some co workers to be able to access and upload to that directory, but not be able to navigate throughout the rest of the filesystem
[12:05] <bertu> about 3 days ago i swiched to ubuntu from xp and i backed up my music...and the music player says that i dont have a decoder to play...what can i do?
[12:05] <neuron_> but i1m having problems with some sites
[12:05] <zcat[1] > kuzmaster: ok.. static case, you have an IP address, firefox sends an address lookup and waits forever for a reply, but you have no connection. DHCP case you have no ip address assigned, firefox fails immediately because there's no way to send a DNS request
[12:05] <boha_> how can i add a system tray applet to the panel in gnome?
[12:05] <kuzmaster> !mp3
[12:05] <apikoros> IRCMonkeyx, you need http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html
[12:05] <KrisWood> since the home directories are not web accessable they won't do at all
[12:05] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:05] <neuron_> almost all flash sites show up the way they are
[12:06] <apikoros> IRCMonkeyx, read the FAQ there
[12:06] <zcat[1] > make sense?
[12:06] <IRCMonkeyx> apikoros: ok, thanx
[12:06] <neuron_> but for example http://www.g4tv.com isnt showing the way it should
[12:06] <kuzmaster> zcat[1] , kinda
[12:06] <apikoros> KrisWood, check private msg
[12:06] <kuzmaster> zcat[1] , ummm, 4get wat i was about 2 say
[12:06] <kuzmaster> lol
[12:06] <KrisWood> ok
[12:07] <intelmanx86> is there anyway to use two pppoe connections on one dsl modem
[12:07] <kevinz> i am trying to solve sound problem, ubuntu has sound but not nice, and lspci does not show sound card, is anything wrong?
[12:07] <apikoros> KrisWood: ...
[12:07] <intelmanx86> is there anyway to use two pppoe connections on one dsl modem
[12:08] <kuzmaster> zcat[1] , do you want to see my config 4 my card 4 kubuntu?
[12:08] <KrisWood> apikoros I responded
[12:08] <intelmanx86> ?
[12:08] <avis> i've often wondered if i could connect to my router both wirelessly and wired.
[12:08] <apikoros> kriswood, i didn't see anything, strange
[12:08] <KrisWood> apikoros it says that private messages are currently blocked
[12:08] <zcat[1] > kuzmaster: err... no really :)
[12:08] <apikoros> KrisWood, just join #kriswood temporarily
[12:08] <KrisWood> ah ok I hadn't identified
[12:09] <kuzmaster> zcat[1] , ok then, so wat do i do then?
[12:09] <apikoros> yeah
[12:09] <intelmanx86> is there anyway to use two pppoe connections on one dsl modem
[12:09] <rpedro> !repeat
[12:09] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:09] <kuzmaster> zcat[1] , my kubuntu connection works fine, but it dosnt on ubuntu
[12:09] <intelmanx86> no
[12:09] <intelmanx86> !repeat
[12:09] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:09] <zcat[1] > first step, make sure you're getting the wireless part connected; 'iwconfig ra0 essid ANY' wait a while, iwconfig ra0 and see if it found your AP
[12:09] <intelmanx86> lamer bot
[12:09] <kuzmaster> zcat[1] , i think i used the same settings
[12:10] <zcat[1] > doubleckeck the AP name.. or just set it to ANY
[12:10] <avis> zcat is there anyway to connect that way -- wirelessly specifiying a gateway and dns server and netmask ?
[12:10] <boha_> how can i add a system tray applet to the panel in gnome?
[12:10] <sobersabre> hi guys, there's a website declaring misc. local ubuntu teams.
[12:10] <kuzmaster> when i config it, in the drop down menu for the essid, it has a name there?
[12:11] <sobersabre> what is their role ? are they anyhow affiliated with Canonical or Ubuntu in the official sense ?
[12:11] <yaniv_abir> can anyone help me connect to my home windows network? it worked a few days ago but now Ubuntu just doesn't see it (win xp does)
[12:11] <maddox> Can anyone explain why XGL runs fine when my laptop had 512MB RAM but upgrading it to 2GB (still paired memory, same speed etc) means that XGL runs like a dog and is jerky all the time?
[12:11] <zcat[1] > avis: ?? didn't understand the question. Once you have an AP and channel, the rest works like any other network interface, you have an IP and stuff.. you can dhcp it or set it statically.
[12:12] <yaniv_abir> maddox: maybe you have a problem with your memory sticks?
[12:12] <avis> zcat so by command line i specify a channel ranging from 1-11 ?
[12:12] <zcat[1] > if you have an IP set manually but no wireless connection it's like having a static IP on eth0 and having the cable unplugged.
[12:12] <maddox> yaniv_abir: Possibly, but they're brand new and good quality
[12:13] <zcat[1] > avis: it'll scan them all until it finds an AP
[12:13] <yaniv_abir> maddox: use memtest on boot up through grub to test them.
[12:13] <avis> zcat i have often tried to connect wirelessly using the standard out of the box "networking" in gnome-desktop but it never seems to connect.
[12:13] <maddox> yaniv_abir: Okay, i'll be back in 3 days when memtest has finished then :P
[12:13] <Gasten> Some knows how you switch the default encoding (UTF8) to something else?
[12:13] <avis> zcat should i try dhcp first ?
[12:14] <zcat[1] > if you have a dhcp server, yeah..
[12:14] <yaniv_abir> gasten: which client are you using?
[12:14] <avis> well my AP and my WEP key are dhcp but can be assigned static on wired lan
[12:14] <kuzmaster> !mp3
[12:14] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:14] <avis> netgear best buy type router
[12:15] <zcat[1] > hmmm... I never use wep. My AP is wide open :)
[12:15] <Gasten> yaniv_abir: If it were about the irc-client, I wouldnt ask here. I men in ubuntu.
[12:15] <avis> zcat my dad bought a wireless lan printer shared on my windows workstastion and his two windows machines
[12:16] <avis> the thought of neighbors printing notes to us is scary :)
[12:16] <yaniv_abir> can anyone help me with my window network? it disappeared - nothing is shown under windows network, and manual location doesn't work, in win it works fine...
[12:16] <zcat[1] > I should set up wep just so I know how it works :)
[12:17] <Kn10> hey all. I have a question, I would like to install Ubuntu. I currently have 2 partitions existing (one being my XP parition which is fat32, and an empty fat32 parition which i would like to format and install Ubuntu on. I have previously had Mandrake on this PC and I use the mandrake bootloader. If i install Ubuntu do you forsee any issues with the preexisting bootloader that Mandrake installed (i think its Grub)?
[12:17] <Shere`Khan> i have 4 lines of adsl .. can i put them all in one server ?? and manage them with ubuntu server ?
[12:17] <Lynoure> zcat[1] : why not wpa?
[12:17] <Lynoure> zcat[1] : (ok, why bot both?)
[12:17] <yaniv_abir> Gasten: what do you want to change the encoding for? file system?
[12:17] <avis> zcat want to work together ?  there is a network-manager-gnome that supports WPA that i might like in the future.
[12:18] <yaniv_abir> Kn10: Ubuntu's install should recognise your mandrake installation
[12:18] <zcat[1] > brb going to config the laptop..
[12:18] <boha_> how can i add a system tray applet to the panel in gnome?
[12:18] <Gasten> yaniv_abir: The who OS! Some programs cant set the encoding, so they take the default thing.
[12:19] <yaniv_abir> Gasten: just a sec
[12:19] <Tomcat__> Kn10: You can't install Ubuntu on Fat32 afaik.
[12:19] <Gasten> yaniv_abir: And I am from sweden, and uses wierd characters lika !
[12:19] <Kn10> yaniv_abir, I have removed mandrake (currently just a FAT32 drive)
[12:19] <campfire> yaniv_abir: I can see my windowsnetwork, what i think is the solution: system> administration> shared folders , i believe i got a option to install a package which i think fix the problem
[12:19] <rixxon> any easy way to find all installed non-application packages which nolonger has any reverse dependencies on the system?
[12:19] <Tomcat__> rixxon: Install debfoster and run it as root.
[12:20] <Kn10> Tomcat_, I know that which is why i said "format and install" (meaning format to ext#)
[12:20] <Kn10> or something
[12:20] <rixxon> Tomcat__: thank you
[12:20] <Tomcat__> Kn10: Oh, overread that, sorry. :)
[12:20] <oskude> who ever i was helping, sorry had to leave in hurry
[12:20] <Kn10> iits cool, i probably should have said "reformat"
[12:20] <IRCMonkeyx> apikoros: thank you very much i solved my problem. may i ask you one more question about kernel?
[12:20] <Kn10> Tomcat, any idea on my question?
[12:21] <Tomcat__> Kn10: Do you still use Mandrake?
[12:21] <Kn10> nope, want to replace it with Ubuntu
[12:21] <Tomcat__> Kn10: Then I don't foresee any problems. But that's not a guarantee :)
[12:21] <Kn10> mandrake is no longer on the system, the ex mandrake drive is formatted to Fat32 (i was using just windows for a while)
[12:21] <yaniv_abir> campfire: tried that, still doesn't work...
[12:22] <Kn10> but the Grub bootloader (which mandrake originally installed) remains
[12:22] <Tomcat__> IRCMonkeyx: Just ask :o
[12:22] <Tomcat__> Kn10: I'm pretty sure Ubuntu will install its own bootloader.
[12:22] <Kn10> and overright the one Mandrake put in?
[12:22] <Tomcat__> Kn10: Probably, yes.
[12:22] <nodie> hi
[12:22] <nodie> I've installed Ubuntu 6.06
[12:23] <Kn10> ok, thanks
[12:23] <Tomcat__> Kn10: That's why I asked if you were still using Mandrake... that *might* pose problems.
[12:23] <yaniv_abir> Kn10: ubuntu will reinstall grub, but it'll detect window (or it should)
[12:23] <nodie> and I can't access my printer
[12:23] <nodie> there is no /dev/usb/lp0
[12:23] <Kn10> yaniv_abir, great, thanks for the help uys
[12:23] <zcat[1] > hmmmm wep is too hard.
[12:23] <Kn10> *guys
[12:23] <nodie> is this an error?
[12:23] <Tomcat__> Kn10: As yaniv_abir said, it will detect Windows, but not another distribution... I doubt it.
[12:23] <IRCMonkeyx> Tomcat_: i am trying to install my modem since two days. There is a code , it says put it into kernel, i dont know how to put into kernel?
[12:23] <nodie> I've read that many people has the same problem
[12:23] <Kn10> thanks
[12:23] <zcat[1] > !wep
[12:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:24] <Tomcat__> IRCMonkeyx: It really depends on what *exactly* it says.
[12:24] <yaniv_abir> Tomacat_: He doesn't have another distribution installed, and anyway I think it should detect other linux installs anyway.
[12:24] <Tomcat__> yaniv_abir: Yeah that's why it will be okay... but I'm not sure if Ubuntu will find other distros... mh.
[12:25] <apikoros> hey everyone, what's a good vnc server that can be easily configured to run as a daemon (i.e. has it's own /etc/init.d script)
[12:25] <Hit3k> grrr
[12:25] <apikoros> yaniv_abir, are you fruitful or knightly?
[12:25] <Tomcat__> apikoros: vino? :)
[12:25] <apikoros> Tomcat__, thanks
[12:26] <IRCMonkeyx> Tomcat_: i asked in forum too, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1222958&postcount=4   this is the link ,could you look at it?
[12:26] <Tomcat__> apikoros: Really depends on what you want to do exactly.
[12:26] <kuzmaster> !nvidia
[12:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:26] <yaniv_abir> apikoros: are you suggesting anything? am I missing something?
[12:26] <Tomcat__> -kernel
[12:26] <Tomcat__> !kernel
[12:26] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:27] <Tomcat__> IRCMonkeyx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild <---
[12:27] <IRCMonkeyx> Tomcat_: thanx
[12:28] <yaniv_abir> apikoros: do I know you?
[12:28] <Tomcat__> IRCMonkeyx: I'm just not sure where you can get to the screen shown in the forum posting...
[12:28] <yaniv_abir> can anyone help me connect to my windows network? I have dapper
[12:29] <apikoros> yaniv_abir, no, just punning on your name, never mind
[12:29] <Tomcat__> IRCMonkeyx: I *think* where it says "modifying the source", you do "make config"
[12:29] <apikoros> make xconfig for a nicer interface
[12:30] <Tomcat__> IRCMonkeyx: Yeah... use xconfig or menuconfig... don't use make config :)
[12:30] <IRCMonkeyx> Tomcat_: it is for globespan modem, i am getting crayz, since two days i cant install  a modem driver , this is my first linux experiment. I will try xconfig :)
[12:30] <apikoros> yaniv_abir, what's yr windows network? file/printer sharing or just shared internet?
[12:30] <Tomcat__> IRCMonkeyx: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/tutorials/kernel-pkg/config-kernel-pkg.html.en <--- You'll see the screen in 4.3 when you do "make menuconfig"... there you can find the settings the README told you.
[12:30] <boha_> how can i add a system tray applet to the panel in gnome?
[12:30] <kuzmaster> zcat[1] , earlier you said somthing about the right channel
[12:31] <apikoros> boha, right click anywhere on the panel
[12:31] <kuzmaster> zcat[1] , what did you mean by that?
[12:31] <Tomcat__> IRCMonkeyx: I doubt you'll succeed though... building your own kernel is quite difficult. It's probably better to ask other people how they got it to work...
[12:31] <Tomcat__> IRCMonkeyx: Most hardware problems can't be fixed by recompiling anyway, because the Ubuntu kernel is already built pretty well (contains anything).
[12:32] <IRCMonkeyx> Tomcat_ : i have no one around to ask :( , the only way to make it myself
[12:32] <moshe> good morning
[12:32] <apikoros> Tomcat_, contains anything != built pretty well ;)
[12:32] <moshe> did the latest updates screw up anyone else's screen fonts?
[12:32] <moshe> all my fonts got much smaller except in firefox
[12:32] <apikoros> moshe, check your dpi settings in xorg.conf
[12:32] <moshe> when I enlarge all my fonts, everything gets back to normal, but then firefox's fonts go huge
[12:33] <apikoros> moshe, i had a similar problem, firefox doesn't really obey xorg.conf dpi settings
[12:33] <apikoros> you have to change them to match
[12:33] <scheuri> moshe: you can adjust the fonts in firefox seperatly...
[12:33] <Tomcat__> IRCMonkeyx: There's ubuntuforums....
[12:33] <moshe> what caused this change?
[12:33] <apikoros> moshe, dunno. you can do what scheuri suggests, but it will cause fuckups when websites specify a particular pixel size
[12:34] <IRCMonkeyx> Tomcat_: i asked there in two different forum, noone answered until yet, i opened two threads
[12:34] <moshe> where am I looking for the dpi settings in xorg.conf?
[12:34] <apikoros> moshe: http://www.mozilla.org/unix/dpi.html
[12:35] <Tomcat__> IRCMonkeyx: Well... I'd probably buy a new modem and sell the old one in that case... unfortunately some things just don't work easily. Or you find somebody who will help you locally to get through the compile thing.
[12:35] <apikoros> moshe, it's actually /etc/X11/Xresources , my mistake
[12:35] <yaniv_abir> apikoros: my network is file/printer sharing
[12:35] <apikoros> yaniv_abir, did you install samba?
[12:35] <yaniv_abir> apikoros:I did
[12:36] <moshe> Xresources is a directory
[12:36] <yaniv_abir> apikoros: and anyway, it worked out of the box, until it just disappeared one day
[12:36] <IRCMonkeyx> Tomcat_: first i will try to do myself, if i cant, i will exchange my modem someone's else :D
[12:36] <moshe> I just set my UI font to Sans 12, and now Firefox's fonts are ridiculous
[12:37] <apikoros> hm, read up on this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[12:37] <apikoros> moshe, UI font != font dpi
[12:37] <moshe> I have my default font set at 16, but changing the UI font didn't change the font rendering in Firefox like it did the Firefox UI font.
[12:37] <moshe> apikoros, I know that.
[12:37] <yaniv_abir> apikoros: maybe I should try to uninstall samba? (I think) it was only installed when I tried to setup a shared folder within ubuntu
[12:37] <Tomcat__> IRCMonkeyx: Good. :)
[12:37] <MushroomN> hi all, i have a HP nx6120 Laptop that i think isn't displaying 1400x1050 res. I have downloaded the 810 drivers that are from http://www.fairlite.demon.co.uk/intel.html but how do i install it?
[12:37] <moshe> I'd just like everything to go back to the way it was last night :)
[12:37] <IRCMonkeyx> :)
[12:37] <Tomcat__> MushroomN: The 810 drivers are already installed with Ubuntu.
[12:37] <apikoros> moshe, read the link, it'll help
[12:38] <moshe> Firefox's display resolution is 96 dpi
[12:38] <kevinz> hello, i guess ubuntu choose a wrong soundcard driver for me. where can i change it?
[12:38] <Tomcat__> kevinz: System => Prefs => Sound (bottom)
[12:38] <Tomcat__> kevinz: Eh... sorry, misread that.
[12:39] <Tomcat__> kevinz: How did you find out it uses the wrong driver? That shouldn't happen usually... :o
[12:39] <MushroomN> ok, if they are installed why do i not get the option to set it to 1400x1050 in the screen resolution?
[12:39] <apikoros> moshe, set it to zero and it'll match X
[12:39] <moshe> really?
[12:39] <apikoros> moshe, in theory ;)
[12:39] <Tomcat__> MushroomN: Where do you check that?
[12:40] <moshe> I just set it to the system setting, and now the preferences looks normal, but the firefox main window isn't.
[12:40] <apikoros> moshe, in the page i sent you, read the paragraph starting "If none of the above or variations thereof work, as a last resort, you can use the brute force"
[12:40] <MushroomN> system/preferences/screen resolution
[12:40] <Tomcat__> MushroomN: If you use the "Screen Res" thingy, that's no use... you need to change the Xorg config manually.
[12:40] <kevinz> Tomcat__: thank you for replying. I am using laptop and i check some wiki and see the suggested driver is AC97 but the one in used is ICH6
[12:40] <kristian> Can anyone help me with my graphic card? ati, tried to make it work in 2 weeks now, but no.. it just won't change from the mesa driver.
[12:40] <moshe> ok
[12:40] <moshe> now Firefox is normal
[12:40] <HBuzacott> MushroomN, do you know your screens vertical refresh and horizontal sync?
[12:40] <moshe> thanks, apikoros
[12:40] <Tomcat__> MushroomN: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, there you can choose the res for the config.
[12:40] <apikoros> moshe, :)
[12:40] <moshe> interesting screen name, btw
[12:41] <apikoros> moshe, you israeli?
[12:41] <moshe> no, but I am Jewish
[12:41] <moshe> and I know what your screen name means
[12:41] <apikoros> ah
[12:41] <Tomcat__> kevinz: And sound does not work?
[12:41] <yaniv_abir> apikoros: where are you from?
[12:41] <IRCMonkeyx> apikoros: are you greek:)
[12:41] <apikoros> israel originally, vancouver for the past four years and for another three weeks
[12:41] <MushroomN> don't know the vertical refresh sorry.. have tried teh dpkg thing and still looks blury
[12:41] <apikoros> IRCMonkeyx, no
[12:41] <HBuzacott> Guys, can you guys move that to #off-topic
[12:42] <apikoros> HBuzacott, sorry, you're right
[12:42] <kevinz> Tomcat__: sound is working, that's weird, because the music or whatever, even the login sound, is not nice. and i can't find soundcard information from lspci or dmesg
[12:42] <yaniv_abir> apikoros: oh. and I thought you might be from my neighborhood...
[12:42] <IRCMonkeyx> i am originally arab from Lebanon
[12:42] <Tomcat__> kristian: Did you check the Wiki page on ATI cards?
[12:42] <nano-whatever> Hello people, does anybody has the audio problem in MPlayer trying to play a .mov file?
[12:43] <Tomcat__> kevinz: I highly doubt it's a wrong driver problem (Ubuntu loads drivers using the unique card IDs), rather a config problem...
[12:43] <IRCMonkeyx> best regards to israellian friends
[12:43] <moshe> My brother lives in Israel.  I was there last month for his wedding
[12:43] <HBuzacott> IRCMonkeyx, move it to #off-topic
[12:43] <apikoros> IRCMonkeyx, moshe, yaniv_abir, we should take it to #off-topic
[12:43] <yaniv_abir> best regards to our Lebanese friends too...
[12:43] <moshe> apikoros, nah.
[12:43] <moshe> I have to get ready for work shortly
[12:43] <HBuzacott> nano-whatever, do you have anymore info?
[12:43] <moshe> thanks for all your help, though
[12:44] <apikoros> k, regards to all. np, moshe.
[12:44] <yaniv_abir> sorry
[12:44] <kevinz> Tomcat__: oh. so why can't i see my soundcard in lspci , and what can i do now?
[12:44] <Tomcat__> kevinz: Well, you could describe what's wrong with the sound....
[12:44] <yaniv_abir> so no one know how I can "reset" all shares and home network related settings to default so I can connect to my windows network again?
[12:45] <apikoros> yaniv, you can try apt-get remove --purge samba
[12:45] <Tomcat__> kevinz: I don't know why you can't see it in lspci... I can. :)
[12:45] <apikoros> and then apt-get install samba
[12:45] <monomaniacpat> has anyone used a gamepad before? I want to change some analogue trigger to normal digital buttons
[12:45] <HBuzacott> yaniv_abir, you want to do a total reinstall, removing conif file?
[12:45] <HBuzacott> file*
[12:46] <yaniv_abir> HBuzacott: that would be nice
[12:46] <yaniv_abir> just to get it right - samba handles accessing windows shares?
[12:46] <phibxr> is there any software in the repositories capable of viewing a slide show with ken burns-like effects?
[12:46] <apikoros> yaniv_abir, do what i said, then, assuming the package name is actually samba
[12:46] <HBuzacott> yaniv_abir, do as apikoros says and sudo apt-get remove --purge samba && apt-get install samba
[12:46] <monomaniacpat> oooh! looks at the ubuntuforums makeover!!!!
[12:46] <kevinz> Tomcat_: oh i am sorry, i find it now. well the sound is kind of smother, if i use this word right.
[12:47] <HBuzacott> make that: sudo apt-get install samba
[12:47] <kevinz> Tomcat__: oh i am sorry, i find it now. well the sound is kind of smother, if i use this word right.
[12:47] <yaniv_abir> apikoros: sababa, I'll try it
[12:47] <HBuzacott> yaniv_abir, yep, SAMBA handles MS Windows shares
[12:47] <Tomcat__> kevinz: Well, don't really know about that... but it really sounds like a config problem. Maybe ask the forums, or wait if somebody here knows.
[12:47] <apikoros> yaniv_abir, wait one sec
[12:48] <panzar> i'm not allowed to start "gdm". it says "it's not the default window manager"
[12:48] <panzar> any ideas?
[12:48] <kevinz> Tomcat__: oh so there is config for sound right?
[12:48] <panzar> it was a kubuntu installation from the start.
[12:48] <apikoros> yaniv, "sudo apt-get remove --purge samba smbclient samba-common"
[12:48] <yaniv_abir> apikoros: do I need to reboot?
[12:48] <apikoros> yaniv, then "sudo apt-get install samba smbclient samba-common"
[12:48] <Tomcat__> kevinz: There is a config for almost anything...
[12:48] <apikoros> yaniv_abir, no, this isn't windows :P
[12:49] <apikoros> yaniv_abir, but you might have to do something like sudo /etc/init.d/smbd restart
[12:49] <kevinz> Tomcat__: oh yeah... so may i have a clue about the config part?.. i was searching for the problem blindly..
[12:49] <yaniv_abir> apikoros: well, years of using it have made it a reflex to reboot...
[12:50] <timalot> can you make a filter for the little update-notifier in the notification area so it doesnt tell u about certain packages u dont want?
[12:50] <hmrocha> hello
[12:50] <panzar> * Not starting GNOME Display Manager (gdm); it is not the default display manager.
[12:50] <kristian> Tomcat_: Yes..
[12:50] <apikoros> timalot, i think there's some config for that for apt, let me see
[12:50] <Tomcat__> kevinz: Well there's the esd config... alsa config... and so on. No idea what exactly you want, because I have no idea what's the problem.
[12:50] <hmrocha> i get a warning of packages that cannot be authenticated when using apt-get, i always say "y" but where can i get the key for this packages?
[12:50] <zcat[1] > !vnc
[12:50] <apikoros> timalot, i'm not on an ubuntu machine atm so it makes it hard to look
[12:50] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[12:51] <jrib> hmrocha: use 'apt-cache policy package_name' to check what repository it is coming from.  What does it say?
[12:51] <peterretief> if i want to install a kde oprion do i just start with kde base?
[12:51] <Tomcat__> kristian: Yes what? I can't find what you're replying to, sorry. :)
[12:51] <zcat[1] >  system > preferences > remote desktop  exists by default and claims to enable vnc. But doesn't seem to start anything?
[12:51] <zcat[1] > anyone know?
[12:52] <timalot> apikoros... ok ill ive a little look... i thought some one might know
[12:52] <hmrocha> jrib: 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages
[12:52] <jrib> peterretief: just use apt to install whatever kde program you want, it will take care of the depenencies it needs
[12:52] <jrib> !easysource > hmrocha
[12:52] <kristian> Tomcat_: I have read the wiki page;)
[12:52] <filo> i want install skype in my kubuntu 6.06 dapper and with the repository not work there are a metod for install???
[12:52] <HBuzacott> panzar, is kdm installed?
[12:52] <kevinz> Tomcat__: i see. this problem just can't be described but i cannot enjoy music either.. thank you very much.
[12:52] <jrib> hmrocha: create a sources.list with that repository at the page ubotu sent you and it should give you the gpg key
[12:52] <peterretief> jrib: ah ok, even give me the kde option on startup
[12:53] <sobersabre> is there a developers channel for ubuntu ?
[12:53] <zcat[1] > why does ubuntu package a really nice and potentially useful GUI tool that doesn't actually do a fscking thing?
[12:53] <jrib> peterretief: yeah, if you want kde, just install kubuntu-desktop.  Then you can choose it at the G/KDM login screen
[12:53] <sobersabre> zcat[1] : what do you mean ?
[12:53] <jrib> sobersabre: #ubuntu-dev
[12:53] <zcat[1] >  system > preferences > remote desktop  exists by default and claims to enable vnc. But doesn't seem to start anything?
[12:53] <peterretief> jrib: ah kubuntu desktop
[12:53] <hmrocha> jrib: thanks, i'll try that
[12:54] <peterretief> jrib: thanks
[12:54] <matth-w> Is there a good xmms plugin, easy to install, etc for x-chat that anyone could help me out with?
[12:54] <zcat[1] > no server is running, no ports get opened.. what's the point of having it if it doesn't do anything?
[12:54] <kristian> Tomcat_: You mean this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, right?
[12:54] <jrib> zcat[1] : it presents me with a few options to check here
[12:55] <j-linux> Is there a keyboard shortcut or feature of GNOME on Ubuntu that would cause M-RET to stop working in emacs (running in GNOME terminal)?  I'm trying to get M-RET to work for html-helper-mode.
[12:55] <dibblego> is there a document that explains how to set up your own local package repository?
[12:55] <sobersabre> zcat[1] : remote desktop requires vnc package.
[12:55] <zcat[1] > jrib: yep. Then you close it and NOTHING happens.
[12:55] <sobersabre> do you have it installed ?
[12:55] <yaniv_abir> apikoros:still doesn't work... :(  maybe I'll reboot just to feel better...:)
[12:56] <sobersabre> yaniv_abir: what's your problem ?
[12:56] <zcat[1] > shouldn't they have made vino depend on a vnc server or something, since apparently it does actually need one?
[12:56] <yaniv_abir> sobersabre: windows network totally disappeared, though it still works in win xp
[12:56] <jrib> zcat[1] : it runs 'vino-server' here.  'ps -e | grep vino' give you anything?
[12:57] <zcat[1] > yes, it runs vino server here. What does vino server do?
[12:57] <jrib> zcat[1] : lets you connect from another computer
[12:57] <zcat[1] > sorry, no.. doesn't run anything here I mean
[12:58] <jrib> zcat[1] : is vino installed?  I believe it should be by default, but maybe something happened
[12:58] <zcat[1] > jrib: not here it doesn't.. hang on while I apt-get install --reinstall vino
[12:58] <kristian> Oh, Im talking with Tomcat__ :P You mean this page, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, right?
[12:58] <sobersabre> zcat[1] : you should be careful in what you're saying over the internet P)
[12:58] <sobersabre> zcat[1] : it allows other local users to see YOUR CURRENT SESSION.
[12:58] <sobersabre> ok ?
[12:59] <zcat[1] > that's what I want. Here it runs the configuration dialog. Nothing else.
[12:59] <zcat[1] > No server. No open ports. No vnc server or any sort.
[01:00] <zcat[1] > I'll try reinstalling vino
[01:00] <matth-w> Is there a good xmms plugin, easy to install, etc for x-chat that anyone could help me out with?
[01:01] <sobersabre> zcat[1] : you are still not listening
[01:01] <sobersabre> it doesn't open and it shouldn't open any TCP ports.
[01:01] <zcat[1] > same problem.. vino<tab><tab> only shows vino-preferences. There is no vino-anythingelse isntalled by the vino package here.
[01:01] <sobersabre> it uses UNIX domain sockets.
[01:02] <jrib> zcat[1] : that's normal
[01:02] <orbin> matth-w: perhaps you should ask in #xchat
[01:02] <jaggz-> how the hell do I get java working in firefox under ubuntu... my friends?  :)
[01:02] <kristian> When I do "dmesg | grep fglrx" I can see a error: "[17179608.748000]  [fglrx:firegl_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 4607 using kernel contex" Anyone know what this means?
[01:02] <jrib> zcat[1] : dpkg -L vino
[01:02] <matth-w> orbin I've been trying
[01:02] <spatieman> SUN ?? :)
[01:02] <thunderbir1> I have hibernating problem
[01:02] <thunderbir1> can anyone help
[01:02] <zcat[1] > so how do local users conenct? vncviewer localhost:0 as suggested also fails.
[01:02] <oskude> !ask
[01:02] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:02] <jaggz-> I swear I've installed this thing a million times
[01:02] <thunderbir1> I think it is a bug but nothing like that is reported
[01:02] <thefish> apparently ubuntu can set up a certified lamp server with a single command. Google is full of this claim, but does anyone have any idea what this magic command is?
[01:03] <sobersabre> zcat[1] : , when you call vncviewer localhost:0, it should popup a little window "sombody iz trying to mess with your desktops, allow or declien ?"|
[01:03] <sobersabre> only after you allow, it runs.
[01:03] <monomaniacpat> has anyone here used an analogue joystick in ubuntu before?
[01:03] <sobersabre> thefish: yes
[01:03] <zcat[1] > also why's it called "Remote" desktop if it doesn't allow anyone but localhost to use it?
[01:04] <jrib> zcat[1] : it does allow other to use it
[01:04] <sobersabre> zcat[1] : this is second question.
[01:04] <sobersabre> :)
[01:04] <jaggz-> I've never used a vnc server under linux.. only server in windows and clients in windows/linux
[01:04] <oskude> thefish, sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 php5-mysql (or similar)
[01:04] <orbin> matth-w: or just google it: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=xchat+xmms  ... hits 1 and 3 look ok
[01:04] <jrib> !lamp > thefish
[01:04] <zcat[1] > sigh. How do I open up vnc accsee to this desktop for the rest of my lan?
[01:04] <sobersabre> zcat, you run vncpasswd, give a passord.
[01:04] <matth-w> orbin, I'm on the xchat script list, and I've been trying to get say xmms.control and the link is gone
[01:04] <sobersabre> then you run vncserver
[01:05] <zcat[1] > doen.
[01:05] <sugoruyo> hi all
[01:05] <matth-w> Then I try another, and it doesn't work either
[01:05] <zcat[1] > doen. It starts a new virtual server. Not this desktop. Black X with no desktop manager.
[01:05] <sugoruyo> i've a friend whose sources.list has been erased (?!)
[01:05] <zcat[1] > blank rather
[01:05] <sobersabre> then you can connect, if you have the VNC ports open, and no other network barriers
[01:05] <sugoruyo> is there a sample available somewhere?
[01:05] <zcat[1] > port 5900 and up?
[01:05] <sobersabre> zcat[1] : this is on purpose: vnc is often used over a modem connection.
[01:05] <zcat[1] > I opened 5900-5920
[01:06] <erUSUL> sugoruyo: source-o-matic
[01:06] <jrib> !easysource > sugoruyo
[01:06] <sobersabre> zcat[1] : you need to config .vnc/ folder, there's some file named xstartup
[01:06] <zcat[1] > Sorry. I want to have remote control of THIS desktop from my laptop. Cna this be done at all?
[01:06] <sobersabre> zcat[1] : man vncserver.
[01:06] <erUSUL> !vnc
[01:07] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[01:07] <jrib> zcat[1] : that's what should happen after you use vino-preferences, all I do is allow it and then connect to my computer.  I get the current session
[01:07] <sugoruyo> thx
[01:07] <sobersabre> zcat[1] : the vnc runs on the same desktop as locally in windows, because windows doesn't allow 2 same users connected twice graphically.
[01:07] <sobersabre> linux allows it.
[01:07] <zcat[1] > here vion-preferences does absoultely NOTHING. No server. No ports opened (unix or network).   NOT   ONE   THING.
[01:08] <njan> sobersabre zcat[1] : the vnc runs on the same desktop as locally in windows, because windows doesn't allow 2 same users connected twice graphically. <= yes it does.
[01:08] <njan> sobersabre, the desktop versions don't.
[01:08] <zcat[1] > I've seen it done. In ubuntu.
[01:08] <zcat[1] > I know it's possible.
[01:09] <paoloVN> i have problem when create a file system:
[01:09] <paoloVN> #mkdir /xen-images/mnt
[01:09] <paoloVN> #dd if=/dev/zero of=/xen-images/guest_base.img bs=1024k count=1000
[01:09] <paoloVN> #dd if=/dev/zero of=/xen-images/guest_base-swap.img bs=1024k count=500
[01:09] <paoloVN> #chmod 640 /xen-images/guest_base*
[01:09] <paoloVN> #mkfs.ext3 /xen-images/guest_base.img
[01:09] <paoloVN> #mkswap /xen-images/guest_base-swap.img
[01:09] <paoloVN> #mount -o loop /xen-images/guest_base.img /xen-images/mnt
[01:09] <paoloVN> ottengo questo errore: > >
[01:09] <oskude> !paste
[01:09] <paoloVN> ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Dispositivo o risorsa occupata >
[01:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:09] <paoloVN>  mount: si deve specificare il tipo di filesystem > >
[01:09] <paoloVN> uso ubuntu 6.06 > > avete idee?
[01:09] <sobersabre> paoloVN: you will be kicked soon,
[01:09] <sobersabre> prego, no pastare.
[01:09] <sobersabre> :)
[01:09] <paoloVN> scusate.
[01:10] <jrib> !it
[01:10] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:10] <paoloVN> ok
[01:10] <sobersabre> va su ubuntu-it, ciao
[01:10] <sobersabre> :)
[01:10] <kristian> When I do "dmesg | grep fglrx" I can see a error: "[17179608.748000]  [fglrx:firegl_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 4607 using kernel contex" Anyone know what this means?
[01:11] <sobersabre> kristian: I think I've seen this message... are you a bot ?
[01:11] <kristian> ??
[01:12] <sobersabre> zcat[1] : good luck, but read the instructions of usage.
[01:12] <zcat[1] > It would be nice if the 'Remote Desktop" actially did let people take control of your desktop remotely like the nake kinda implies
[01:12] <zcat[1] > *name
[01:13] <orbin> kristian: is it affecting your system?
[01:13] <nao> hi, I'm on dapper drake, and everytime I try to run VLC I can load it, but the second I load a video, the player shuts down
[01:13] <nao> any ideas?
[01:14] <oskude> nao, run it from from terminal, then it should output some error messages that could help
[01:14] <jrib> nao: do you get any useful terminal output if you run 'vlc' in a terminal and make it crash?
[01:14] <jrib> oskude: good idea :P
[01:15] <nao> sorry, I'm really really new, how do I run it from the terminal?
[01:15] <oskude> jrib, ditto :)
[01:15] <Lord-ChewY> hi
[01:15] <kristian> orbin: I don't know :P Ubuntu is working fine, but 3d dosn't work. Mesa driver is activated, not ati
[01:15] <Xappe> nao: I had similar problems before. I removed .vlc/ and then it worked again
[01:15] <Lord-ChewY> so wine can use windows DLLs, are there any scrips i can use if i have a copy of windows to streamline the process
[01:15] <orbin> kristian: have you installed the fglrx driver?
[01:15] <jrib> nao: to run it from a terminal, just type 'vlc' without the quotes in applications > accessories > terminal
[01:16] <monomaniacpat> I'm looking for help with analogue triggers on a joystick - I want to set them as buttons :'(
[01:16] <sobersabre> zcat[1] : I am typing now via this vino
[01:16] <sobersabre> it works.
[01:16] <nao> X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[01:16] <nao>   Major opcode of failed request:  140 (XVideo)
[01:16] <nao>   Minor opcode of failed request:  19 ()
[01:16] <nao>   Serial number of failed request:  80
[01:16] <nao>   Current serial number in output stream:  81
[01:16] <sobersabre> something is fsked up in your configuration
[01:16] <nao> that's waht it says
[01:16] <zcat[1] > ok. doesn't work for me. Even after reinstalling vino
[01:16] <sobersabre> nao STOP pasting
[01:17] <sobersabre> zcat[1] : when you attempt to connect, what happens ?
[01:17] <nao> sorry, I didn't know I wasn't allowed to, I won't again
[01:17] <kristian> orbin: Yes
[01:17] <oskude> !think
[01:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about think
[01:17] <zcat[1] > vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused
[01:17] <orbin> kristian: which one and how?
[01:17] <kristian> I did the howto ati thing
[01:17] <sobersabre> zcat[1] : do you have IPS or firewalls on the way ?
[01:18] <zcat[1] > hmmmmm... perhaps vino doesn't play nice with compiz ?
[01:18] <sobersabre> zcat[1] : no it doesn't
[01:18] <sobersabre> disable compiz
[01:18] <Daveyboy> can you look at this error code please http://pastebin.ca/81327
[01:18] <sobersabre> wow this is nice!
[01:18] <orbin> kristian: so you installed the one from the repos?
[01:18] <Jimmy704> Hello! A newbie-question: Is obuntu a liveCD or do i have to install it on disk?
[01:18] <sobersabre> I am controlling remotely my running desktop :)
[01:18] <oskude> Jimmy704, both :)
[01:18] <zcat[1] > Jimmy704: yes. Both
[01:19] <jrib> nao: do things like totem work fine?
[01:19] <Flannel> Jimmy704: there is a liveCD, but it's meant to be installed, ultimately.
[01:19] <Jimmy704> thx, good to have the choice!
[01:19] <zcat[1] > OK, starting another login without compiz
[01:19] <J_P> hi all
[01:19] <Daveyboy> can you look at this error code please http://pastebin.ca/81327
[01:19] <nao> jrib: totem loads, but most of my files are ones I encoded myself in h.264 or x.264 or sometime OGM, so I don't have the codecs for them yet for totem
[01:20] <xanax`> hello
[01:20] <jrib> nao: how about xine?
[01:20] <nao> I haven't tried it
[01:20] <nao> I'll do that right now
[01:20] <orbin> Jimmy704: the dapper desktop cd can be used as a live cd AND can be installed from
[01:20] <kristian> orbin: I used the terminal to install.
[01:20] <Daveyboy> can you look at this error code please http://pastebin.ca/81327
[01:21] <Xappe> Daveyboy: do you have make installed? (or build-essential, apt-get install build-essential)
[01:21] <beazely> Daveyboy: easy on the repetition buddy, and do as xappe says and install build-essential
[01:21] <Daveyboy> Xappe, how do i test for make installed?
[01:21] <orbin> kristian: so something like apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx?
[01:22] <kristian> yes
[01:22] <KenSentMe> Daveyboy: just do sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:22] <Daveyboy> okay
[01:22] <zcat[1] > Awesome!! It works as long as I'm not using compiz!! Cool. Now, do I file this as a bug against vino or compiz?
[01:23] <oskude> zcat[1] , is compiz even beta ?
[01:23] <kristian> I also did a slovenian guide, i got from hatred. I can give you a link, http://www.ubuntu.si/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instaliranje_gonilikov_za_ati-jeve_karticei, if you don't see the page, search for ati-jeve and enter the link under.
[01:23] <orbin> kristian: run this in a terminal: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf | tail -1
[01:24] <kristian> Driver "fglrx"
[01:24] <nao> xine also wouldn't load any of my files without additional codecs, I would like to keep using VLC because the lan streaming is very nice, and I'm used to it, if anyone else has any ideas, I would appreciate it
[01:24] <boha_> how can i add a system tray applet to the panel in gnome?
[01:25] <boha_> i click the right mouse button on panel the add
[01:25] <boha_> then add*
[01:25] <boha_> what next?
[01:25] <zcat[1] > that should work
[01:25] <jrib> boha_: it's labelled "notification area"
[01:26] <Jimmy704> ubuntu, kubunto, edu- and xubuntu... What shall i choose (as ubuntu-newbie)? So couse this is the ubuntu-room everyone here is for (default-) ubuntu, isnt it?
[01:26] <orbin> kristian: have you rebooted yet
[01:26] <kristian> orbin, yes it's a looong time since I did that guide
[01:26] <oskude> Jimmy704, default, if your pc has atleast 128mb ram
[01:26] <tuxta_> I compiled gvidcap into a .deb for Ubuntu Dapper, but have since misplaced the package. Rather that go through the process again, does anyone know of a suitable .deb package of gvidcap for dapper?
[01:27] <tuxta_> oskude:  isn't the recommended minimum 256 for dapper ?
[01:27] <oskude> tuxta_, well, works with 128mb here
[01:27] <zcat[1] > damn gdesklets keep using 100% CPU for no apparent reason..
[01:27] <tuxta_> fair nuff then
[01:27] <TMS> how does one change default charset to 8859-15? dpkg-reconfigure locales worked pre-Dapper and in Debian
[01:28] <Jimmy704> oskude: thanks. (so no problem with my 512mb)
[01:28] <oskude> Jimmy704, definetly not :)
[01:28] <paoloVN> i have this problem :mount -o loop guest_base.img /xenfs/mnt
[01:28] <paoloVN> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17407
[01:28] <Jimmy704> :)
[01:28] <tuxta_> gdesklets is wasted eye candy ... use XGL instead :)
[01:28] <kuzmaster> hello all
[01:28] <oskude> Jimmy704, btw, what ever you install, you can actually have them all, its just what as default on the cd
[01:28] <zcat[1] > I have both.. XGL doesn't give me the weather
[01:29] <tuxta_> zcat[1] :  heh, true
[01:30] <oskude> Jimmy704, kubuntu uses kde instead of gnome as default, xubuntu uses xfce4 instead gnome as default. edu... dunno what it uses, but has programms installed (as default) that are ment for schools and such... (AFAIK)
[01:30] <Jimmy704> oskude: well, i have to choose (cause of my 64kb internet connection *g*). btw, i already know knoppix (kde), do you?
[01:30] <oskude> Jimmy704, but in the end its all the same, and you can install them from default ubuntu with "sudo apt-get install kubuntu xubuntu" etc...
[01:31] <kuzmaster> in ubuntu 6.06, i can only open one application before i have to restart the machine, the rest just say their loading, then just stop and nothing else comes up
[01:31] <orbin> kristian: try the forum.  i recall seing a troubleshooting thread on the mesa issue there
[01:31] <kuzmaster> any help?
[01:31] <oskude> Jimmy704, yup know knoppix, but i missike kde :/
[01:31] <orbin> kuzmaster: what did you do? :)
[01:31] <kuzmaster> ummm, nothing i think
[01:31] <SonicChao> kuzmaster: What apps?
[01:31] <SonicChao> kuzmaster: Any recent software downloads/installs?
[01:31] <kuzmaster> terminal, firefox, calcualtor, evulation
[01:31] <kristian> orbin: Ok, I see if I can find it
[01:32] <kuzmaster> no, cos my wireless card wont work
[01:32] <nao> up above someone mention removing .vlc/, how do i do that?
[01:32] <oskude> kuzmaster, can you get terminal ? try starting programs from there and see if you get any error messages
[01:32] <zcat[1] > nao: mv .vlc .vlc-orig
[01:32] <kuzmaster> i can only start terminal if its the first app i open
[01:32] <SonicChao> kuzmaster: To start a program from terminal, just type it's name.
[01:32] <Jimmy704> oskude: :) so ubuntu is in my download-list! I make a rest. Bye!
[01:32] <ALDI> beezly: It's me again, the one who wanted to install oracle instantclient on a sparc ubunt machine. I just got an idea: would it help to install the oracle xe database?
[01:32] <kuzmaster> but when i closed terminal, no apps would open after that
[01:33] <oskude> Jimmy704, bb, have fun :)
[01:33] <SonicChao> kuzmaster: Open apps, from the TERMINAL.
[01:33] <SonicChao> kuzmaster: Do so by typing there name, just give it a try, k?
[01:33] <kuzmaster> ok
[01:33] <oskude> kuzmaster, open terminal, type "firefox" in it (without "") and press enter...
[01:33] <SonicChao> kuzmaster: O, make sure to spell them right
[01:33] <kuzmaster> ok
[01:34] <SMG|CH_> SonicChao how do u pronounce your nick cus i keep thinking sonic cow
[01:34] <kuzmaster> ill try that after i get more help for wireless
[01:34] <kuzmaster> dose ubuntu support d-link cards out of the box?
[01:34] <SonicChao> SMG|CH_: Lol...if you played Sonic Adventure you'd know, it's pronounced "Ciao"
[01:34] <SMG|CH_> hehe
[01:34] <SMG|CH_> I was thinkin like chaos but somehow it became sonic cow
[01:35] <oskude> kuzmaster, depends which chip it has
[01:35] <kuzmaster> it appears as a device
[01:35] <zcat[1] > chow?
[01:35] <nao> when programs are installed, what is the directory that they are installed to?
[01:35] <kuzmaster> it appears as ra0
[01:35] <SonicChao> zcat[1] : Yup
[01:35] <KenSentMe> nao: that depends
[01:35] <oskude> kuzmaster, i never use wireless, but do you find your card with "lspci" (command for terminal)
[01:36] <KenSentMe> nao: what program are you looking for?
[01:36] <kuzmaster> ummmm, maybe
[01:36] <kuzmaster> im not in it yet
[01:36] <zcat[1] > just occuren to me instead of having a 127.0.0.1 rule for each port I want open, I should just open 1-65535 to localhost.
[01:36] <kuzmaster> im in dual boot
[01:36] <nao> kensentme: I'm looking for my VLC folder.
[01:36] <SonicChao> SMG|CH_: Hehe....first question I ever got about my name :D
[01:36] <oskude> nao, binarys are normally in /usr/bin (and thats inn your PATH variable, so you dont need the path to execute them)
[01:36] <SMG|CH_> lol
[01:36] <zcat[1] > I think I can trust myself :)
[01:36] <kuzmaster> im trying to get vmware player
[01:37] <laozi> Does anyone here use mutt?  If so, why does it seem like Ubuntu doesn't create the default .muttrc file?
[01:37] <orbin> nao: there isn't "one folder for every app" like windows
[01:37] <SonicChao> kuzmaster: Can you talk to us on another computer?
[01:37] <kuzmaster> dont think so
[01:37] <kuzmaster> ill try
[01:37] <SonicChao> kuzmaster: Okay, if you can't just tell us
[01:37] <KenSentMe> nao: if you do 'locate vlc' you'll see that it's in /usr/share and /usr/lib
[01:37] <kuzmaster> i can, but the computer will be in another room
[01:38] <SonicChao> kuzmaster: If you can't close IRC, and come back with a similar (same) name, I will still be here
[01:38] <kristian> orbin, you have the link to the fglrx issue in forum?
[01:38] <orbin> laozi: perhaps you have to start it first to create one?
[01:39] <Carmen-> How do i install fluxbox to Ubuntu?
[01:39] <Carmen-> is it even possible
[01:39] <KenSentMe> !fluxbox
[01:39] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox
[01:39] <SonicChao> Carmen-: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[01:39] <SonicChao> Carmen-: first make sure that Mutiverse and Universe repos are on
[01:39] <_StarScream> hi guys, got an ibook g3 800 running dapper with an airport 802.11b card. I'm using  network-manager and the gnome-network-manager plugin. Its working well for ethernet connections, but not wireless.
[01:39] <Carmen-> from what apt source?
[01:39] <_StarScream> iwlist eth1 scan gives lots of wlans
[01:39] <SonicChao> !repos
[01:40] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:40] <KenSentMe> Carmen-: check the ubotu link
[01:40] <SonicChao> Carmen-: Follow the links
[01:40] <_StarScream> but none of them show up in network manager
[01:40] <_StarScream> is there anything special i have to do ?
[01:40] <laozi> orbin, nah, I started it...
[01:40] <orbin> kristian: this is the one i saw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143283&highlight=ati+mesa
[01:40] <SonicChao> KenSentMe: Thanks, I didn't know there was a !fluxbox Ubuntu link. :D
[01:40] <Carmen-> what the fuc
[01:40] <SonicChao> Carmen-: Be nice
[01:40] <KenSentMe> SonicChao: me neither, but i guessed it
[01:40] <Carmen-> i didnt want documentation howto add sources
[01:40] <SonicChao> Carmen-: Swaring get's you no where
[01:41] <Carmen-> i wan THE sources
[01:41] <oskude> _StarScream, make sure your wireles chip is supported by linux/ubuntu
[01:41] <kristian> orbin, thanks:)
[01:41] <_StarScream> oskude: did you read my comment about iwlist ?
[01:41] <SonicChao> Carmen-: Stop being rude, an op *may* greet you out the door
[01:41] <Carmen-> and Repositories are in stargate
[01:42] <oskude> _StarScream, well, i never used wireless, so dunno what iwlist does... have you searched wiki and forum ?
[01:42] <KenSentMe> Carmen-: then read what SonicChao wrote, you need multiverse and universe. And please check the wiki link for fluxbox
[01:42] <Carmen-> my god that is for beginners
[01:42] <Carmen-> "managing Repositories"
[01:42] <_StarScream> oskude: iwlist is the command line network scanning tool. i have checked the forums and the wiki to see if people are having a similar problem but i haven't turned up anything useful so far
[01:42] <kenas> !repos
[01:42] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:43] <Carmen-> i need the addresses
[01:43] <SonicChao> Carmen-: If you can't figure it out, YOU ARE a beginner.
[01:43] <Carmen-> not managin
[01:43] <SonicChao> Carmen-: Just read it!
[01:43] <fernando_> wenas
[01:43] <Carmen-> i need to read 2 lines
[01:43] <_StarScream> have not yet asked on the mailing list
[01:43] <kuzmaster> SonicChao, i can get on another computer, just installing the client now
[01:43] <Carmen-> the apt source lines
[01:43] <kuzmaster> brb
[01:43] <Carmen-> not 1030523lines
[01:43] <Carmen-> about things i know
[01:44] <Carmen-> "hi heres how you manage your sources BUT we are not giving you any sources"
[01:44] <SonicChao> Carmen-: I wish there was a Wiki Link for managing "A New User In Denial"
[01:44] <KenSentMe> Carmen-: we want to help you, but that doesn't mean you can sit back and relax so we do those things for you, it's already said that you need universe and multiverse
[01:44] <oskude> _StarScream, if you knew what module the chip needs, you could look in lsmod if its loaded...
[01:44] <laozi> Why do the most obnoxious people get the most help?
[01:44] <Carmen-> deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe
[01:44] <Carmen-> that?
[01:44] <jrib> Carmen-: on the page you were linked to: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine#head-e1a24b1b2037f68b5a95f54388582b58ea4c9bd0
[01:44] <Carmen-> THANK YOU
[01:44] <SonicChao> laozi: What's you're problem?
[01:44] <SonicChao> laozi: I can try to help
[01:45] <oskude> _StarScream, but i saw someone (the other day) talking about airport cards...
[01:45] <Carmen-> and i take it as a very bad insult to give me noobie links
[01:45] <laozi> SonicChao, You can eat your boogers for all I care, I was just making an observation about the whole "squeaky wheel" paradigm.
[01:45] <Carmen-> like "how you manage ur sources WITH OUR GNOME SYSTEM"
[01:45] <Knome> @lart Carmen-
[01:45] <jrib> Carmen-: those aren't noobie links.  As you saw it had the information you needed, and remember people here are just trying to help you
[01:46] <Carmen-> ew stop lookin ;_;
[01:46] <rob> be greatful that people are giving you free help
[01:46] <kuzmaster> hello all
[01:46] <rob> don't complain about it
[01:46] <Carmen-> im grateful to jrib
[01:46] <kuzmaster> im now on another computer
[01:46] <SonicChao> Carmen-: How 'bout you just go pay for Conanical's commercial help? They obviously won't make mistakes.
[01:47] <KenSentMe> Carmen-: when you are not a noobie as you said, then you should have already seen the links to a fluxbox wiki
[01:47] <iamelite> Could anyone tell me a good Linux Program for Recording/editing Audio and video files. IE: if i wanted to insert frames and replace sound clips in a an Audio Video Interlace.
[01:47] <SonicChao> Carmen-: Because if you can't read a wiki, Canonical should be able to help, right?
[01:47] <Carmen-> wiki has too much text
[01:47] <skybox> hi... i'm pissed linux can't handle dual layer break, so I'm FORCED to dual boot with windows, is it possible to do it and have my ubuntu still up running without formating the entire hdd?
[01:47] <Carmen-> its like *BLAAH* *BLAAH*
[01:47] <jrib> iamelite: try kino
[01:47] <rob> !easyubuntu
[01:47] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[01:47] <SonicChao> Carmen-: I know, the text is more important than the problem.
[01:47] <oskude> skybox, whats dual layer break ?
[01:47] <Nameeater> sounds a bit like you
[01:47] <iamelite> Kino
[01:47] <iamelite> ok
[01:47] <Carmen-> i dont wanna read any extra
[01:47] <Carmen-> just the thing i want
[01:48] <Carmen-> nothing more
[01:48] <laozi> skybox, yes
[01:48] <skybox> it's where the dvd reads the 2nd layer of a dual layer, dvd9
[01:48] <rob> Carmen-, see what ubotu just said
[01:48] <Carmen-> nothing about the fancy cool windows like gnome system
[01:48] <skybox> laozi, really? how!??!
[01:48] <skybox> like I said, WITHOUT killing my current linux setup - ubuntu
[01:48] <laozi> Carmen, YES.
[01:48] <SonicChao> Carmen-: For windows-like systems, see KDE. What are you talking about "Windows Like"
[01:49] <rob> sigh
[01:49] <laozi> The Finnish are fickle.
[01:49] <SonicChao> Carmen-: KDE even has a KStartMenu, I'm sure you'd feel right at home
[01:49] <Carmen-> im sorry i havent eaten in long time :-D
[01:49] <Carmen-> im kinda mad
[01:49] <Carmen-> :-D
[01:49] <rob> SonicChao, chill
[01:49] <skybox> laozi, sorry bud, but how?
[01:49] <KenSentMe> SonicChao: just leave him
[01:49] <Carmen-> yarr fucking broken packages
[01:50] <SonicChao> KenSentMe: you're right, there are people with real problems here
[01:50] <Knome> !language > Carmen-
[01:50] <rob> sigh again
[01:50] <Carmen-> omg im so ignoring that bot
[01:50] <KenSentMe> !ops
[01:50] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[01:50] <laozi> skybox, Do you have access to any voodoo witch doctor's in your area?  Because you're going to need a couple had to find magical items, a voodoo priest, and two virgins pure as snow.
[01:50] <rob> KenSentMe, don't abuse that
[01:50] <KenSentMe> rob: it's no abuse, i don't think he should be in this channel anymore
[01:50] <skybox> laozi......... what the ???
[01:51] <rob> KenSentMe, why?
[01:51] <rob> I'm watching
[01:51] <KenSentMe> rob: lol, you are an op, didn't know that
[01:51] <skybox> laozi, so I take it it's not possible then
[01:51] <Gasten> Free idea: a way to drag your windows/applications down to a workstation and put hem there. That woul be cool.
[01:51] <laozi> skybox, Sorry, just trying to amuse myself while I wake up here.  *yawn*  No idea regarding your question.
[01:51] <Hobbsee> KenSentMe:?
[01:51] <gnomefreak> ?
[01:51] <skybox> oh ok
[01:51] <KenSentMe> rob: i think swearing and wont stop spamming is a good reason to let him leave the channel
[01:51] <skybox> hi... i'm pissed linux can't handle dual layer break, so I'm FORCED to dual boot with windows, is it possible to do it and have my ubuntu still up running without formating the entire hdd?
[01:52] <kuzmaster> SonicChao, im now in ubuntu, ive ran lspci and i think i found ym wireless card, it says somthing like RaLink device
[01:52] <kuzmaster> my**
[01:52] <Seveas> KenSentMe, please leave those decisions to the operators kthxbye
[01:52] <KenSentMe> Hobbsee, gnomefreak sorry, didn't know rob was an op
[01:52] <skybox> I mean... instead of installing windows first and then linux as  dual boot up, can I use ubuntu (the one i'm on now) and install windows?
[01:52] <SonicChao> kuzmaster: You can run programs from terminal, right?
[01:52] <kuzmaster> ill try
[01:52] <laozi> skybox, Although, I bet two virgins white as snow could wake me up right now if you know what I mean.
[01:52] <Carmen-> what other cool desktop managers is there?
[01:52] <guillem101> skybox, don't know what you are talking about... but it looks like vmware would help you on your purposes
[01:52] <Carmen-> than fluxbox
[01:52] <Carmen-> i want something light
[01:52] <SonicChao> Carmen-: XFCE.
[01:52] <oskude> kuzmaster, have you read these (if they apply) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=ralink&titlesearch=Titles
[01:53] <Flannel> skybox: you can.  Let me find you a link.
[01:53] <skybox> thanks dude
[01:53] <Carmen-> fuck
[01:53] <Carmen-> xD
[01:53] <guillem101> Carmen-, I agree. XFCE is light but still powerful... and the new Tunar file manager is quite nice
[01:53] <KenSentMe> How can i see who are the ops on this channel?
[01:53] <Carmen-> trying to update ubuntu to newer version
[01:53] <SonicChao> Carmen-: If you sware at me one more time.....
[01:53] <Carmen-> resaulted
[01:53] <Carmen-> in shit place
[01:53] <kuzmaster> SonicChao, yeah i just ran firefox from terminal
[01:53] <orbin> how do i switch my gtk engine?
[01:53] <Seveas> KenSentMe, /cs access #ubuntu list
[01:54] <timalot> i have a package that comes up in dpkg -l as having a status of "rH" , dpkg -r --force-all wont remove it, how do i remove it?
[01:54] <SonicChao> kuzmaster: You said when you run multiple programs, it doesn't work, correct?
[01:54] <SonicChao> kuzmaster: Try running another program in terminal.
[01:54] <kuzmaster> i said that, ill try now
[01:54] <kuzmaster> brb
[01:54] <Mariws> where do i find IPcop ?? is free?? and some documentation pls
[01:54] <Seveas> timalot, you've put it on hold, that's why it's on rH - try purging it (dpkg -p)
[01:55] <skybox> Flannel. like I said, my current setup is: ubuntu, and I'm FORCED to dual boot with windows, i'm just wondering if I can install windows now on this system as well, aka running it along with my linux setup
[01:55] <Flannel> skybox: well, here's the page about restoring your grub.  As for what partition numbers you need to install windows on etc, I dont have a link.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:55] <Flannel> skybox: yeah, you just have to give it the partition numbers it wants, and then reinstall grub.
[01:56] <skybox> and it won't erase/format/overwrite my hdd?
[01:56] <KenSentMe> Seveas: thanx, but that command doesn't work /cs
[01:56] <Seveas> KenSentMe, /msg chanserv
[01:56] <Seveas> instead of /cs
[01:56] <kuzmaster> SonicChao, i cant run miltiple apps
[01:56] <kubuntu_> hola
[01:56] <Flannel> skybox: it'll install on the partitions you tell it to.  Youll want to free up some space in the right places) for windows.  I dont have that knowledge though.  Google would definately though.
[01:56] <kuzmaster> SonicChao, even from terminal
[01:57] <SonicChao> kuzmaster: Dang, I don't know what to tell you...
[01:57] <KenSentMe> Seveas: ok, dankje
[01:57] <SonicChao> kuzmaster: Ask the question again, and see if anyone picks it up
[01:57] <kubuntu_> need help about openGL
[01:57] <kuzmaster> ok
[01:57] <KenSentMe> kuzmaster: what is the problem?
[01:57] <oskude> kuzmaster, did you try like "firefox &" and then press enter and you should have prompt again...
[01:58] <kuzmaster> no
[01:58] <skybox> Flannnel, ok, but from what I gather this is a guide for someone who installed windows first??? I'm currently on ubuntu and I wish to install windows - dual boot
[01:58] <kuzmaster> ill try now
[01:58] <kuzmaster> brb
[01:58] <kubuntu_> someone here can give me help?
[01:58] <SonicChao> kubuntu_: Please state the whole problem.....we don't like to ask 20 questions.
[01:58] <kubuntu_> eheheh ok
[01:59] <RShadow> how can I add a user to a group via the command line?
[01:59] <kuzmaster> back
[01:59] <Seveas> RShadow, sudo adduser username groupname
[01:59] <Flannel> skybox: no.  That's a guide on how to reinstall grub, after windows hoses it.
[01:59] <kuzmaster> and no, that dosnt work either
[01:59] <iamelite> Starting up sound recorder, it gives me "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings." Where can i fix this?
[01:59] <avalost> Anyone know how I can edit a pdf file?
[01:59] <RShadow> Seveas, and that works even if the user already exists?
[01:59] <timalot> Seveas, thanx i manged to get rid off it
[01:59] <Seveas> avalost, on windows with acrobat
[01:59] <Seveas> RShadow, yes
[01:59] <RShadow> Seveas, Thanks
[01:59] <Flannel> skybox: this is the page for installing ubuntu after windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot, but that's not what you want.
[01:59] <avalost> Seveas: i don't have windows
[02:00] <Seveas> RShadow, 'adduser user group' adds user to group, won't create new user or group
[02:00] <skybox> aha
[02:00] <Seveas> avalost, then yell at adobe for not making acrobat for linux 
[02:00] <SonicChao> Seveas: Neither do I....and I was waiting for this question for a while, Is there another way?
[02:00] <Seveas> or try your luck with wine/cedega
[02:00] <avalost> seveas I have acroread, isn't that adobe?
[02:00] <SonicChao> Seveas: lol, Japanese smiley face. :D
[02:00] <kubuntu_> i've installed GL screensavers..i can't understand why i can view the test and not the entire screensaver when i clic on "apply"
[02:00] <skybox> Flannel, and then use GRUB to install windows, right?
[02:00] <Seveas> avalost, that's adobe acrobat *reader*
[02:01] <m0gsi> Hey all how do you get a address bar in the file manager?
[02:01] <Seveas> which cannot edit
[02:01] <avalost> ahh
[02:01] <Flannel> skybox: basically, you'll resize your ubuntu partitions to leave space for windows, (in the right places, windows is fickle) and then install, and then re-install grub (as windows installs its own bootloader) to allow you to switch.
[02:01] <KenSentMe> avalost: you can edit a pdf page with gimp, but then it's not pdf anymore
[02:01] <kubuntu_> i've installed the most recent drivers
[02:01] <skybox> aha
[02:01] <Flannel> skybox: no.  grub choses which OS you boot to.
[02:01] <Flannel> skybox: you use a windows CD to install windows
[02:01] <kuzmaster> and also, when i do "iwconfig ra0 essid ANY" , it just appears to do nothing, but the cursor is then on the next line, and nothing before it
[02:01] <guillem101> m0gsi, CONTROL+L
[02:01] <skybox> thanks for your help Flannel, I'm gonna do some reading before I proceed :)
[02:01] <skybox> yaeh
[02:02] <kubuntu_> any idea?
[02:02] <m0gsi> wow guillem101 thanks
[02:02] <kuzmaster> any ideas for me?
[02:02] <guillem101> m0gsi, perhaps you are asking for not-spatial mode...
[02:02] <SonicChao> !patience
[02:02] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:02] <RShadow> Is it at all possible to install something without installing the depends? I've looked at the man pages for apt-get and I just can't seem to figure this out.  I need to install mailman without installing apache.
[02:02] <iamelite> When Starting up Gnome sound recorder I get the message "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings." Where are the multimedia settings, i do know my soundcard is set to promary in sys-pref- sounds.
[02:02] <kuzmaster> what should i see that command to?
[02:03] <m0gsi> guillem no this is fine :P
[02:03] <Flannel> RShadow: why are you doing that?
[02:03] <RShadow> Flannel, becuase I already have apache installed, but I compiled it from source
[02:04] <KenSentMe> RShadow: maybe the best way is to also comile mailman from source then
[02:04] <guillem101> m0gsi, note that Ctrl+L is also available at file-selection-dialogs
[02:04] <kubuntu_> i've installed GL screensavers..i can't understand why i can view the test and not the entire screensaver when i clic on "apply"
[02:04] <guillem101> m0gsi, for gnome apps, I mean, of course
[02:04] <kuzmaster> anyone?
[02:04] <SonicChao> kubuntu_: Do you have an OpenGL Graphics Card? (best guess)
[02:04] <RShadow> KenSentMe, ya I'm attempting that as well, the problem is I'm not sure what I need for the uid and gid.. postfix or mailman or what not..and the install docs don't make it very clear
[02:05] <kubuntu_> i've an integrated sis
[02:05] <skybox> Flannel wow
[02:05] <skybox> Flannel, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+Win9x+Grub-HOWTO/index.html WOW nice guide
[02:05] <skybox> that will explain EVRYTHING I need to know :)
[02:05] <Flannel> skybox: there you go ;)
[02:05] <skybox> ^_^
[02:05] <KenSentMe> RShadow: isn't there a mailman channel where you could ask? At least i wouldn't know what to do
[02:06] <RShadow> KenSentMe, sure.. I'll give it a try.
[02:06] <kubuntu_> SonicChao: i've an integrated sis..with debian in the past i was able to view 3d animations screensaver so..i suppose yes, i've opengl card :)
[02:07] <kuzmaster> what is iwconfig ra0 essid ANYsopposed to do
[02:08] <kuzmaster> is it supposed to output anything, cos ive had it running for a long time and it just appears to do nothing
[02:08] <oskude> kuzmaster, maybe "man iwconfig"
[02:08] <kuzmaster> ok, what would that do?
[02:08] <oskude> kuzmaster, never use iwconfig, but looks like it just edits the config file with that command
[02:08] <kuzmaster> ok....
[02:09] <oskude> kuzmaster, man iwconfig shows the manual page of iwconfig
[02:09] <SonicChao> kubuntu_: Okay, just checking...it was my best guess
[02:09] <kuzmaster> ive tried using the gui, but that hassnt worked for me
[02:10] <kubuntu_> SonicChao: sis drivers, gl screensavers..i can see the preview but not the "test"..blank screen..
[02:11] <oskude> kubuntu_, is that kde ?
[02:11] <kubuntu_> yes
[02:11] <manuparra> somebody know if may be possible use Xgl with ATI radeon
[02:12] <oskude> kubuntu_, maybe you have then better luck in #kubuntu
[02:12] <arthog> Hello! Does anybody know how to change the default media player to kaffeine when using gnome?
[02:12] <manuparra> i cant use 3d accel
[02:12] <kubuntu_> oskude: i was searching the chan in this moment :)
[02:12] <KenSentMe> arthog: if you have a media file, right click on it, choose open with and select the default application
[02:13] <KenSentMe> arthog: sorry, you first have to open the properties and then select open with
[02:14] <arthog> KenSentMe: I've done that, thanks. My problem is that I would like to use my keyboard's special buttons to start specific programs but I can't change the media player from system-default programs
[02:16] <tomohawk> Is anyone free to help me out with a boot loader problem at the moment?
[02:16] <kuzmaster> im just gonna give up and try using vmware
[02:16] <_StarScream> tomohawk: i'll try
[02:16] <oskude> we are all _free_ thats why we are here ;)
[02:16] <arthog> Tomohawk: What's wrong with it?
[02:16] <_StarScream> tomohawk: but it depends on hte problem
[02:17] <tomohawk> I installed Dapper onto my AMD64 onto an IDE hdd, with XP on a SATA drive, installed fine, Dapper boots fine, but XP hangs with just a flashing cursor about 3 lines down the screen
[02:18] <tomohawk> so I just tried installing lilo (yes, i usualyl manage to do the worst thing possible)
[02:18] <tomohawk> and i just got "ERROR: install-mbr failed! Your system may not be bootable."
[02:19] <arthog> Tomohawk: Has it ever worked?
[02:19] <Scognito> hi
[02:20] <tomohawk> As dual-boot, no. I am figuring that if I cant get it working I'll unplug the IDE drive, and restore the windows MBR off the windows cd, then backup properly (yes, I'm bad and didn'tback up before installing)
[02:20] <Scognito> 'm being crazy... i don't get 3d acceleration with both matrox nor nvidia card
[02:20] <Scognito> all the work is done by cpu, not gpu
[02:20] <Scognito> glxgear gave me 99% cpu usage
[02:20] <wickedpuppy> Scognito: so when you do glxinfo | grep direct you get no ?
[02:20] <Scognito> it tell me it is enagled
[02:21] <Scognito> direct rendering: Yes
[02:21] <Scognito> i'll post my xorg.conf
[02:21] <wickedpuppy> eh not here pls
[02:22] <Scognito> http://www.pastebin.it/index.php?id=1682
[02:22] <manuparra> Scognito?
[02:22] <oskude> tomohawk, well, dualboot aint easy if you dont know about partitions and mbr (you know, windows can only boot from one device)
[02:22] <manuparra> you graphics card?
[02:22] <Scognito> manuparra?
[02:22] <Scognito> ah sorry
[02:22] <arthog> tomohawk: would be my solution too. I've never worked with SATA drives, though so maybe someone can help you better.
[02:22] <Scognito> i'm trying with nvidia with binary driver
[02:22] <Scognito> geforce 4 mx
[02:22] <oskude> tomohawk, eeh, ment PC can only boot from one devie
[02:22] <manuparra> nvidia, may be works better than aTI
[02:23] <manuparra> what is you info in: glxinfo ?
[02:23] <dmitri> hello. i have a package in dapper (ltmodem...) which the packet manager cannot install or remove. it hence prevents installation of any other packages. can you give me some advice please
[02:23] <arthog> Anybody know anything about changing default media player?
[02:23] <tomohawk> Thanks for the advice anyway
[02:24] <tomohawk> I just tried running sudo liloconfig again, and this time got no errors, but it looks like it has been using stuff from the previous run
[02:24] <ccooke> dmitri: there is no "ltmodem" package in dapper
[02:24] <Toge> hello
[02:24] <oskude> tomohawk, fyi: ubuntu uses grub as default...
[02:24] <dmitri> ccooke:ltmodem-2.6.8-1-686
[02:24] <dmitri> Half open sourced driver for Lucent(r) Linmodems
[02:25] <tomohawk> Yeah, grub wouldn't boot to XP
[02:25] <Scognito> manuparra, http://www.pastebin.it/index.php?id=1683
[02:25] <wickedpuppy> Scognito: is it me or you have two "Device" sections ?
[02:25] <Scognito> this is the info
[02:25] <oskude> tomohawk, works here :/
[02:25] <Scognito> wickedpuppy, yes, i'm also using tv out
[02:25] <manuparra> anybody know how to select some packages, not using default install?
[02:25] <tomohawk> oskude, is yours an IDE+SATA arrangement?
[02:25] <Scognito> but i had problem even without using it
[02:25] <ccooke> dmitri: the linux-restricted-modules packages provide ltmodem drivers already
[02:25] <oskude> tomohawk, no, just one hdd
[02:25] <ccooke> dmitri: there is no ltmodem package in dapper.
[02:25] <tomohawk> ah
[02:26] <manuparra> Scognito, its ok!
[02:26] <SonicChao> Hi, I need a GMail Notifier for Ubuntu...does anyone know of one?
[02:26] <tomohawk> I can boot to linux fine with grub, but if i choose the Windows XP option it goes straight to a flashing cursor and just hangs
[02:26] <gnomefreak> SonicChao: gmail-notify
[02:26] <Scognito> is ok i DON'T have nvidia_agp module loaded?
[02:26] <Toge> i burnt a dvd (from windows) with a file bigger than 2GB inside and i had to use a UDF compilation. but ubuntu can't mount that dvd (udf compilation from windows)
[02:26] <Scognito> i have via_agp loaded
[02:26] <Toge> do you know what i can do?
[02:26] <SonicChao> gnomefreak: as in "sudo apt-get install gmail-notify"?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> SonicChao: yes
[02:27] <dmitri> ccooke: ok...but it didnt detect my thinkpad x31 modem - or i didnt know how to set it up proprely. now, the installation of any further packages is resrticed, becayse synaptics packet manager tries to remove that ltmodem package and cannot
[02:27] <kristian> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143283&page=16&highlight=ati+mesa, everyone, check it out
[02:27] <SonicChao> gnomefreak: Thanks.
[02:27] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:27] <Scognito> please i really need 3d
[02:27] <ccooke> dmitri: try this: At a console, type 'sudo dpkg --purge ltmodem'
[02:28] <jamie_> hi i have a ubuntu 5.06 disk here and i installed server and i need the apt-get command to update everything securly
[02:28] <Scognito> i'm using nvidia-glx_1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-2_i386.deb
[02:28] <[cro] smiley> 
[02:28] <[cro] smiley> i need to unmount my root partition if i want to make backup with partimage. But when i do "umount / " it says "umount: /: device is busy
[02:28] <[cro] smiley> ", What should i do?
[02:28] <[cro] smiley> 
[02:28] <ccooke> dmitri: That should force it to purge any installed ltmodem package and any references to it
[02:28] <void^> Scognito: .. what makes you think it's not accelerated?
[02:28] <ccooke> dmitri: if it fails, please put the output in a pastebin
[02:28] <ccooke> !paste > dmitri
[02:28] <Scognito> void^, because i get 99% cpu usage
[02:29] <void^> Scognito: this may come as a surprise, but applications like 3dmark on windows take 100% cpu time..
[02:29] <Scognito> 3dmark ok :)
[02:29] <Scognito> btw i get only 731 frames
[02:29] <Scognito> with glxgears
[02:29] <Scognito> 731 fps i mean
[02:29] <arthog> [cro] smiley: ever tried the gparted live cd?
[02:30] <Scognito> is nvidia-agp needed?
[02:30] <Scognito> or is it ok i have via_agp
[02:30] <void^> Scognito: i get 850. Xgl runs smoothly. nwn runs smoothly.
[02:30] <[cro] smiley> arthog, no, but i think partimage is on some kind of live CD
[02:30] <jamie_> hi i have a ubuntu 5.06 disk here and i installed server and i need the apt-get command to update everything securly
[02:30] <Scognito> void^, all opengl apps runs slowly
[02:30] <SonicChao> gnomefreak: Okay, it works, I just set it to open every start-up :)
[02:30] <Scognito> like tuxracer
[02:30] <[cro] smiley> arthog, can i make ghost image with gparted?
[02:31] <void^> Scognito: try removing the 2nd screen
[02:31] <gnomefreak> SonicChao: good ;)
[02:31] <arthog> [cro] smiley: I've used the live cd just because of same kind of problems (unable to umount active partitions)
[02:31] <Scognito> void^, do you have a geforce so i can use maybe your?
[02:32] <dmitri> ccooke: ok..its there (with the error!) thanks
[02:32] <Sub> hi, i have a trident graphics card, im using the "trident" driver, but the 3d is still really sucky, is there any way to improve this?
[02:32] <ccooke> dmitri: did it remove the package?
[02:32] <void^> Scognito: geforce fx 5200, no special settings in my xorg.conf
[02:32] <dmitri> ccooke: no
[02:32] <tomohawk> ... ok so i just rebooted... and GRUB loaded.... =/
[02:32] <tomohawk> andis booting to ubuntu now.
[02:32] <ccooke> dmitri: the pastebin should have given you a URL to give us
[02:32] <Scognito> void^, just curious, can you send me the file=
[02:32] <ccooke> dmitri: what is it?
[02:33] <dmitri> ccooke:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17411 (sorry am new to this...but trying hard)
[02:33] <ccooke> dmitri: thank you
[02:34] <ccooke> dmitri: (and don't worry about it. Everyone has to learn)
[02:34] <funkmaster> hey guys how do set a directoy world readable?
[02:34] <Scognito> thank you
[02:34] <gostview>  hi all, I try to install flightgear and I got this error in make: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17412 ; anybody could help me?
[02:34] <Scognito> void^, last thing
[02:34] <ccooke> dmitri: ahh. So, you've installed a non-ubuntu ltmodem package. that's fine.
[02:34] <Scognito> can you do lsmod| grep -i agp
[02:34] <dmitri> ccooke: i try - only i got much bigger problems...after this package minor!
[02:34] <void^> Scognito: using via_agp
[02:34] <ccooke> dmitri: right. Try this:
[02:35] <ccooke> dmitri: sudo dpkg --force-all --purge ltmodem
[02:35] <Scognito> ok thanks
[02:36] <gnomefreak> warning --force-all is not normally a good command to run
[02:36] <Toge> i burnt a dvd from windows and I used a UDF compilation but ubuntu cant mount it, do you know what i can do?
[02:36] <jamie_> hi i have a ubuntu 5.06 disk here and i installed server and i need the apt-get command to update everything securly
[02:36] <Toge> fstab type is "udf, iso9660"
[02:36] <gnomefreak> jamie_: 5.06?
[02:36] <wickedpuppy> jamie_: sudo apt-get update
[02:37] <ccooke> gnomefreak: Correct. However, in this case he's installed a broken non-ubuntu package for the wrong kernel.
[02:37] <dmitri> ccooke: didnt work again http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17414
[02:37] <gnomefreak> jamie_: sudo apt-get update   than sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:37] <gnomefreak> ccooke: apt-get -f install did fix it?
[02:37] <jamie_> thanks
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> jamie_: btw there is always man page :P
[02:37] <gnomefreak> s/did/didnt
[02:38] <arthog> I'm off soon, just final check about anybody with knowledge about changing default media player. Anybody?
[02:38] <iamelite> What is a good linux program i can capture Video off my desktop with.
[02:39] <orbin> arthog: what media?  for local files right-click>properties>open with tab in nautilus
[02:39] <ccooke> gnomefreak: dpkjg can't uninstall the package. This is a lower-level problem to apt-get
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> iamelite: to show off xgl ? :P
[02:39] <orbin> sys>prefs>removable media for dvds/cds
[02:39] <jmspeex> Is it just me or Dapper actually allows a user to use SCHED_FIFO with no restriction?
[02:39] <jmspeex> ...and crash the system in the process.
[02:39] <iamelite> wickedpuppy acctually im putting it on UTUBE to show off my linux monster :P
[02:40] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[02:40] <iamelite> wickedpuppy, Or... i dont have a webcam and i wanna put something up
[02:40] <wickedpuppy> i wouldn't mind knowing the answer as well ... i got a real cool xgl to show to my girl
[02:40] <arthog> almost every kind of. I would like to strt kaffeine with "media"-button of my expensive keyboard but it opens only the default gnome mediaplayer
[02:40] <vikash> hello friends
[02:40] <vikash> i think video is not clear in dapper
[02:40] <orbin> istanbul
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> video not clear ?
[02:41] <orbin> ... is a desktop recorder
[02:41] <vikash> ya in players
[02:41] <vikash> talking about quality
[02:41] <iamelite> vikash, i dont think you can get hardware smoothing in dapper
[02:41] <ccooke> dmitri: Okay. Can you do me a favour and upload a file into the pastebin?
[02:41] <SonicChao> vikash: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:41] <vikash> on same hardware...quite clear in windows
[02:41] <iamelite> wickedpuppy, so do you know a program?
[02:42] <ccooke> dmitri: it'll be called: /var/lib/dpkg/info/ltmodem.postrm
[02:42] <arthog> orbin, any idea how to change it?
[02:42] <vikash> guys ubuntu starter guide is very helpful for novice users
[02:42] <jrib> How can I enable the beep in my console?  I've done 'xset b 50', unmuted my pc speaker, and my profile in gnome-terminal has 'Termina bell' checked.  However 'echo -e "\a"' doesn't produce a beep, although I can make a sound with the 'beep' command
[02:43] <vikash> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[02:43] <orbin> arthog: not the keyboard key, no. sorry
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> iamelite: read orbin's reply to us ... istanbul
[02:44] <iamelite> kk
[02:44] <arthog> I can remap the keyboard key to anything but no idea how to start kaffeine with it
[02:44] <Seboo> saaaaaaaaaalut
[02:46] <orbin> jrib: sys > prefs > sound system beep tab?
[02:46] <dmitri> ccooke: sorry, there no such file there
[02:46] <jrib> orbin: haha wow thanks, hadn't seen that :)
[02:47] <orbin> jrib: well.  i don't knwo if that will work or not
[02:47] <Seboo> hello boys and girls!
[02:47] <orbin> just check that it's enabled
[02:47] <ccooke> dmitri: ah. try: sudo find /var/lib/dpkg -name '*ltmodem*'
[02:47] <jrib> orbin: it worked
[02:47] <ccooke> dmitri: do you see a file that ends 'postinst'?
[02:47] <orbin> oh. sweet :)
[02:47] <arthog> Bye
[02:47] <dmitri> cooke: ok..it just had a longer extension
[02:48] <ccooke> dmitri: ah, my fault. Sorry
[02:48] <Scognito> void^, the file zou gave me works!
[02:48] <Scognito> thanks!
[02:48] <Scognito> :D
[02:48] <ccooke> dmitri: What files do you see there?
[02:49] <dmitri> ccooke: ltmodem*** .postrm, .list, .postinst, .md5sums
[02:49] <orbin> how exactly do you change theme engines?  i installed one frome gnome-look but don't know where to activate it
[02:49] <ccooke> dmitri: right. put the postrm one in pastebin, please
[02:50] <gnomefreak> orbin: install it from system>prefferences>themes
[02:51] <dmitri> ccooke: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17416
[02:51] <ccooke> cmpalmer: thanks
[02:51] <ccooke> er. dmitri: thanks
[02:51] <gnomefreak> orbin: if it contains more than just a theme you might havet o untar it first
[02:52] <[GuS] > hey guys! hi!
[02:52] <ccooke> dmitri: That's only the first few lines, actually
[02:52] <[GuS] > i want to upload tcl8.5/tk8.5 packages to KUbuntu repositories... where i could get the account in REVU ?
[02:52] <dmitri> ccooke: how do i 'select all' in vi?
[02:53] <gnomefreak> !revu
[02:53] <ubotu> REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU
[02:53] <ccooke> dmitri: you can't, really
[02:53] <gnomefreak> [GuS] : ^^^^
[02:53] <orbin> gnomefreak: what are the engines then?  e.g. http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=41345
[02:53] <holzmodem> someone using an ati 9700m with the newest fglrx driver?
[02:53] <manuparra> Could i select packages using alternate install ubuntu?
[02:53] <orbin> gnomefreak: it links to a deb file
[02:53] <[GuS] > hi gnomefreak
[02:53] <[GuS] > thanks
[02:53] <ccooke> dmitri: if you use: 'sudo gedit /path/to/file', you'll be able to select it all easily
[02:53] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:53] <dmitri> ccooke: i would upload the file, but the pastebin asks for screenshots, jpegs, pngs only
[02:53] <dmitri> ccooke: ok..thanks
[02:53] <ccooke> dmitri: yeah, I thought it allowed small uploads
[02:53] <manuparra> Could i select packages using alternate install ubuntu?
[02:54] <manuparra> iso
[02:55] <gnomefreak> orbin: other than following the instructions you got me stumped on that
[02:57] <gnomefreak> manuparra: i dont think there is a such installer
[02:57] <gnomefreak> in ubuntu
[02:58] <gnomefreak> manuparra: oem is the closest you will get to picking your own packages and i dont think it allows you to
[02:59] <dmitri> ccooke: ok! here we go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17417
[02:59] <whitehorseNtiger> Installing cluster management gives me errors in dapper.
[02:59] <definity> hey
[02:59] <sime[] > how do i find out which version a certain driver is on 6.06
[03:00] <funkmaster> sime: u can for instance check in synaptic
[03:00] <definity> /etc/kismetcan some one tell me how to install kernal souces so i can get my wireless card working
[03:00] <funkmaster> go 2 the package and check its prpoerties
[03:00] <jam1> Hmm, will Ununtu recognize my Samsung AHT-N120 PCI ADSL modem or am I out-of-luck once again?
[03:00] <whitehorseNtiger> What do I do here?  remove them?
[03:00] <whitehorseNtiger> E: clvm: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3
[03:00] <whitehorseNtiger> E: redhat-cluster-suite: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[03:00] <whitehorseNtiger> E: system-config-cluster: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[03:00] <gnomefreak> sime[] : packages.ubuntu.com or synaptic or apt-cache policy packagename
[03:00] <sime[] > funkmaster, its a driver in the kernel
[03:01] <funkmaster> sime: euw hmmm u should be able to check it out when u do the menuconfig, but i'm sure there is a smarter and faster way, but i don't know it
[03:01] <sime[] > bah, already found it, didn't look at /var/log/messages closely enough
[03:01] <funkmaster> hehe oki :D
[03:02] <definity> DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN GET KERNAL SOUCES?
[03:02] <definity> whoops
[03:02] <funkmaster> definity: checked in synaptic yet?
[03:02] <ccooke> dmitri: Right. Basically,  that package was designed for (I presume) an older version of Debian. Most of the things it assumes are there don't exist any more in the kernel.
[03:02] <ccooke> dmitri: it's failing because it doesn't know what to do.
[03:02] <ccooke> dmitri: however, since it doesn't do anything you need to care about... just remove that file.
[03:03] <gnomefreak> definity: open synaptic and search for linux-source or kernel-source
[03:03] <funkmaster> definity: u need the ones for ur kernel uname -r
[03:03] <ccooke> dmitri: sudo rm /path/to/file.postrm
[03:03] <POVaddct> definity: it's kernel (not kernal). get them at www.kernel.org or one of its mirrors
[03:03] <ccooke> dmitri: then, try 'sudo dpkg --purge ltmodem' again
[03:03] <Seboo> in your ass
[03:03] <jam1> Errrrrr, any chance that Ununtu 6.06 will recognize my Samsung AHT-N120 PCI ADSL modem?
[03:03] <gnomefreak> kernel-sources are rarely ever needed
[03:03] <dmitri> ccooke: ok..i give it a whirl..thanks..and the other ltmodem files also?
[03:03] <Seboo> none Jam1
[03:03] <ccooke> dmitri: other ltmodem files?
[03:03] <ccooke> dmitri: oh, don't touch those
[03:03] <dmitri> ccooke: ok..ta
[03:04] <ccooke> dmitri: once the postrm script is gone, they'll be removed automatically by dpkg when you uninstall it
[03:04] <skybox> i'm a bit tired so excuse my typing, but i'm about to install windows (dual boot) on my current linux setup, and i'm reading this guide, i'm suppose to create a new partition and when I run parted it says /dev/hda, how do I creat a new partition for linux?
[03:04] <gnomefreak> Seboo: if you are here to troll dont and watch your language
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: If you have freee unpartitioned space it does it all automagically
[03:05] <orbin> skybox: new partition for linux?  i thought you were installing windows on an existing linux system?
[03:05] <gnomefreak> whitehorseNtiger: dont paste int he channel please
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> whitehorseNtiger: Are you running redhat or Ubuntu
[03:05] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow, i'm very tired, so bear with me, I have 1 partition /dev/hdc 120Gb, 50GB free, must I not create a new one for windows?
[03:05] <whitehorseNtiger> ubuntu
[03:05] <skybox> orbin, yes I'm trying?
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Skynp, you are adding WIndows after Ubuntu?
[03:06] <vikash> hi friends
[03:06] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow, yes
[03:06] <vikash> how can i play .chm files
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: Other drives in the system?
[03:06] <whitehorseNtiger> @gnomefreak:  Geez you could have told me without kicking me out!!!
[03:06] <Seboo> sorry gnomefrack
[03:06] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow besides my HDD? only a dvd burner
[03:06] <vikash> ihave ebooks in .chm format
[03:07] <Sha_ubuntu> hi everybody
[03:07] <gnomefreak> could have yes but its int he topic of the channel
[03:07] <errpast-wc> Does 6.06 have Gparted on Live CD?
[03:07] <whitehorseNtiger> @gnomefreak:  I am a noobie and didn't even know that was going to happen.
[03:07] <vikash> ya errpast
[03:07] <errpast-wc> vikash: thx
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: Did you just install Ubuntu?
[03:07] <Rope> I got a pc with 8gbs of hd and 64mb of ram.. is it posible to install ubuntu some how??
[03:07] <Rope> x)
[03:07] <vikash> how can i play .chm files
[03:07] <Sha_ubuntu> i would need a little help this morning concerning how to get floppy to mount automatically in ubuntu
[03:08] <dmitri> ccooke@ excellent! thanks a lot. is it possible to install the modem though (or to detect it). as i am in need if dialup connection at home
[03:08] <vikash> if anybody knows,plz help me
[03:08] <aurelyano_18> can i open an http site on ubuntu server ???????
[03:08] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow, i've been using unbutu for a couple of months now, and I want to use windows as well - dual boot (well forced too)
[03:08] <intelmanx86> anyone know anything about hosts.deny
[03:08] <cntb> vikash come again !
[03:08] <dmitri> ccooke: i'm trying the autodetect through the 'network connections' but its saying its not attched or busy
[03:08] <vikash> .chm files
[03:08] <gnomefreak> skybox: <hint> install windows first<hint>
[03:08] <cntb> .chm are windows help files
[03:08] <orbin> Sha_ubuntu: places > computer > double-click on floppy drive? then right-click > unmount when finished?
[03:08] <jrib> vikash: xchm can read them
[03:08] <jrib> !info xchm
[03:08] <ubotu> xchm: Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for X. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2:1.2.0-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 856 kB
[03:09] <intelmanx86> anyone know anything about hosts.deny
[03:09] <vikash> is it in synaptic
[03:09] <jonah1980> hi can anyone tell me how to install tellico on amd64bit ubuntu? i'm struggling a bit with missing apps in 64
[03:09] <vikash> thanx buddy
[03:09] <jrib> vikash: yes, once you enable universe.  Do you know how?
[03:09] <ccooke> dmitri: First thing - let's be sure you have all the modules you need
[03:09] <vikash> ya
[03:09] <vikash> i already did
[03:09] <Rope> errpast-wc yes
[03:09] <ccooke> dmitri: what processor does your computer have?
[03:09] <cntb> intelmanx86: hosts.deny used by NFS unix native filesharing
[03:09] <jrib> vikash: k, should be waiting for you then :)
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: WIndows will install in the unpartitioned space but it is finnicky about wanting to be in the first partition.  HAve you backed up your existing install?
[03:09] <ccooke> dmitri: is it an AMD or Intel or something else chip?
[03:09] <intelmanx86> cntb, used by more that just nfs
[03:10] <definity> once i got the kernel sources what do i do with then to get my wireless card working any ideas?
[03:10] <ccooke> dmitri: (speed doesn't really matter, just the make)
[03:10] <softnet_> hi all
[03:10] <skybox> gnomefreak, what would be the point of doing that? I want to KEEP my exsisting system without OVERWriting anything
[03:10] <Sha_ubuntu> orbin, it doesnt show in place menu,, usb drive come up automatically ,, but not floppy
[03:10] <intelmanx86> cntb, do you know the correct usage(syntax) for it?
[03:10] <gnomefreak> skybox: it makes it alot easier in the end to boot both
[03:10] <dmitri> ccooke: Intel...device manager says unknown - but i think its intel
[03:10] <cntb> wait will get you a link
[03:10] <orbin> Sha_ubuntu: not in menu.  click on places > computer
[03:10] <skybox> gnomefreak ,yeah maybe, but I hate to set up my linux one more time :(
[03:10] <cntb> !nfs
[03:10] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:11] <gnomefreak> skybox: installing ubuntu first xp will over-write the MBR and kill grub <end> only windows will boot
[03:11] <cntb> try this
[03:11] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow will windows install on my primary (only) partition 120GB, 50GB free teh rest is ubuntu!??!
[03:11] <ccooke> dmitri: right. they please install the "linux-686" package. That makes sure you have up-to-date kernel, restricted modules etc.
[03:11] <gnomefreak> !grub > skybox
[03:11] <Rope> how can i install ubuntu without running the live cd ??
[03:11] <intelmanx86> cntb, and? you know?
[03:11] <LoBoGoL> hello !!! Please, Could somebody tell me if project Ubuntu has an open channel for users' packages and utilities suggestions?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> skybox: read the pm for more info
[03:11] <vikash> can somebody remind me command to mount smbfs folder
[03:11] <jrib> Rope: use the alternate cd
[03:11] <Arbiter> Rope, download the -alternate cd
[03:11] <cntb> rope alternate CD is perfect and more flexible too
[03:11] <Arbiter> :D
[03:11] <vikash> to mount folder on other com
[03:11] <softnet_> i've got some kind of a circular-dependency error.How do i remove a package that is marked for installation?(i.e when i run apt-get install it tries to install it automatically)
[03:11] <vikash> so that i can watch movie after mounting them
[03:12] <cntb> vikash good idea
[03:12] <definity> once i got the kernel sources what do i do with then to get my wireless card working any ideas?
[03:12] <skybox> gnomefreak I have, and I wish to use linux as my current system without kililng it, that's why i'm reading this guide on how to use windows after linux   http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/html_chapter/parted_2.html
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: You only have one partition? a single 120gig partition
[03:12] <Sha_ubuntu> in place I, my computer,, I see floppy,, error message unable to mount volume,, Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[03:12] <cntb> you mean using VLC
[03:12] <vikash> i did that in 5.10 but i forgot the commad
[03:12] <skybox> Sparrow, correct, well at least I assume that, when I type sudo parted, it only shows /dev/hdc
[03:12] <cntb> I will try that myself soon
[03:12] <vikash> it was comething like
[03:12] <intelmanx86> ??
[03:13] <cntb> VLC has client and server
[03:13] <Rope> Arbiter my problem is that the pc dont has enough ram to load the live cd.. can i install it from tex mode ?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> LoBoGoL: launchpad.net should let you put it in as a bug
[03:13] <orbin> Sha_ubuntu: is there a floppy inside the drive? :-/
[03:13] <dmitri> ccooke: ok...you should tell me how..i installed ubuntu and fully updated about 3 weeks ago...how do i check my version?
[03:13] <vikash> smbfs -? //computername/folder /location
[03:13] <Arbiter> Rope, yeah with the alternate cd
[03:13] <Arbiter> the -alternate cd ships the debian-installer
[03:13] <ccooke> dmitri: ah, right.
[03:13] <cntb> oh is that a samba server or win xp> vikash
[03:13] <Arbiter> which is in text-mode
[03:13] <Sha_ubuntu> orbin,  yess
[03:13] <vikash> winxp
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: what about your swap partition etc?
[03:13] <ccooke> dmitri: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[03:14] <Rope> Arbiter thanks
[03:14] <LoBoGoL> gnomefreak: ok! thanks..
[03:14] <ccooke> dmitri: search for "linux-686"
[03:14] <Arbiter> Rope, np
[03:14] <cntb> !smb
[03:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about smb
[03:14] <vikash> other comp r running xp in my netwotk
[03:14] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow, hmm, how do I check that one? I only typed sudo parted and it showed me /dev/hdc
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox:  I see disaster looming trying to do all of this if you are that tired.
[03:14] <cntb> !automounter
[03:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about automounter
[03:14] <ccooke> dmitri: there's a guide to using it, too
[03:14] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow, yeah but I have no choice really, and I really wanna do it :)
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix
[03:14] <orbin> Sha_ubuntu: do you have a floppy entry in /etc/fstab?
[03:14] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:14] <ccooke> dmitri: or if you're impatient, you can use the command line: 'sudo apt-get install linux-686'
[03:14] <Arbiter> Rope, if you have an x86 system here's the download link: http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/ubuntu-cdimage/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso
[03:15] <dmitri> ccooke: ok, they are blank...install them both? (also linux-686-smp)
[03:15] <cntb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently vikash
[03:15] <aurelyano_18> can i open an http site on ubuntu server ???????
[03:15] <ccooke> dmitri: if you have a multiprocessor computer, use the -smp one.
[03:15] <cntb> vikash:  ?
[03:15] <vikash> ok
[03:15] <ccooke> dmitri: if it's just one processor, the -686
[03:15] <vikash> automounter is working
[03:15] <vikash> but sound is not regular
[03:16] <vikash> thanx
[03:16] <cntb> using videoLAN vikash or?
[03:16] <cntb> totem ?
[03:16] <intelmanx86> how would I use hosts.deny to deny access from a external network to port 139 but allow an internal network to access 139?
[03:16] <vikash> totem
[03:16] <cntb> no take videolan
[03:16] <vikash> i have installed videolan also
[03:16] <dmitri> ccooke: ok. I am patient when it comes to my working machine! am installing...(maybe this will solve my sudden freezing problems also!)
[03:16] <cntb> www.videolan.org
[03:16] <vikash> ok i try it
[03:16] <intelmanx86> anyone?
[03:16] <Deanodriver> ell
[03:16] <Deanodriver> oops
[03:16] <Deanodriver> :)
[03:17] <Deanodriver> um
[03:17] <Sha_ubuntu> can I see this from a terninal,, dont seem to find it at the moment..
[03:17] <mrtwister> hi. installed dapper-server, but need also graphics, how to install standart ubuntu gnome desktop, xorg etc ?
[03:17] <intelmanx86> how would I use hosts.deny to deny access from a external network to port 139 but allow an internal network to access 139?
[03:17] <Deanodriver> i'm having a problem where whenever i press shift-backspace, X restarts?
[03:17] <Deanodriver> is there any way to switch that off? it's surprising how often i keep on hitting it
[03:17] <vikash> its not opening file directly in videolan
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: You Ubuntu install has 70 gigs of OS , programs and data.  For which you have no backup. And you need to modify partitions at a very low level? I know you WANT to do it. but there is a real danger of data loss or ending up with a usless Ubuntu.
[03:18] <intelmanx86> how would I use hosts.deny to deny access from a external network to port 139 but allow an internal network to access 139?
[03:18] <Sha_ubuntu> k found it,,
[03:18] <Rope> Jack_Sparrow could you pass me your mounting script?
[03:18] <dmitri> ccooke: should i restart now, or we do something else before?
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> sure
[03:18] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow yeah, but let's put it this way... if it fails, I have to format the entire hdd anyways, at least this way there MIGHT be a chance for me to keep my ilnux setup+boot with windows
[03:18] <Rope> Thanks
[03:18] <Rope> :)
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[03:18] <Sha_ubuntu> orbin, , nop ,, no mention of it  anywhere in fstab
[03:19] <intelmanx86> anyone
[03:19] <Deanodriver> does anyone know how to change what keys do?
[03:19] <Deanodriver> i'm sick of X restarting
[03:19] <ccooke> dmitri: has a little notification icon popped up on the top right telling you to reboot?
[03:19] <vikash> hello cntb
[03:19] <softnet_> how can i get rid of a package marked as 'iU'
[03:19] <softnet_> ?
[03:19] <Sha_ubuntu> orbin, /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot / auto noatime 0 0
[03:19] <Sha_ubuntu> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[03:19] <Sha_ubuntu> /dev/hda1 swap swap defaults 0 0
[03:19] <ccooke> dmitri: if not, you're fine
[03:19] <dmitri> ccooke: yup
[03:19] <vikash> its not opening files in vlc
[03:19] <orbin> Sha_ubuntu: gksudo 'gedit //etc/fstab'
[03:19] <ccooke> dmitri: just click the notification icon and do as it says
[03:19] <orbin> Sha_ubuntu: only one slash before etc
[03:19] <vikash> where r u
[03:19] <dmitri> ccooke: ok...i'llbe back!
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: shrink down your existing Ubuntu partition. LEave unallocated space and see if windows will use that space.
[03:21] <KenSentMe> Deanodriver: what keys do you want to change?
[03:21] <Deanodriver> I want it so X doesn't restart whenever I press Shift-Backspace
[03:21] <vikash> how to play a file on network with vlc player
[03:21] <Deanodriver> which happened ever since I installed XGL/Compiz
[03:22] <A[D] minS> !usb
[03:22] <vikash> anybody knows???
[03:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about usb
[03:22] <A[D] minS> !mount usb storage device
[03:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about mount usb storage device
[03:22] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow, okay, but how I do that, sorry but I'm VERY new this parted and all that
[03:22] <gnomefreak> Deanodriver: ctrl+alt+backspace doesnt do it?
[03:22] <_nano_> A[D] minS, what do you want to find ?
[03:22] <Deanodriver> it does too
[03:23] <Deanodriver> i want it to not happen when i press shift-backspace
[03:23] <Deanodriver> because i keep on hitting it
[03:23] <A[D] minS> _nano_: want to mount storage device " flash memory"
[03:23] <kakalto> yo
[03:23] <A[D] minS> usb device
[03:23] <_nano_> A[D] minS, doesn't it mount automatically?
[03:23] <kakalto> how do I install nvidia drivers?
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: are you going to use gparted?
[03:23] <KenSentMe> !nvidia
[03:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:23] <A[D] minS> _nano_:  am using fluxbox
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[03:23] <bigjoe> hi
[03:23] <A[D] minS> so i can't find any thing says it mounted
[03:24] <_nano_> A[D] minS, you know about writing udev rules?
[03:24] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow yeah I guess so, do you have anyone else to recomend?
[03:24] <kakalto> cheers KenSentMe
[03:24] <KenSentMe> kakalto: no problem
[03:24] <A[D] minS> _nano_: nope
[03:24] <bigjoe> I' struggling with the laptop fan control problem, can anyone help me on this ?
[03:24] <Deanodriver> does anyone know how to disable the shift-backspace issue?
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: I just wanted to know what tool you were going to use..
[03:25] <soniccol_> Is there any foobar related software in ubuntu linux ?
[03:25] <dmitri> ccooke: ok...restarted
[03:25] <_nano_> A[D] minS, read this document http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
[03:25] <ccooke> dmitri: Okay, then
[03:25] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow ah okay, yes gparted is the one i'm using, gnu parted
[03:26] <craigtmackenzie> hello ubuntu community
[03:26] <A[D] minS> _nano_:  monted thx for helping
[03:26] <ccooke> dmitri: what type of modem is it, again?
[03:26] <pm2> I'm using a kernel module that needs to hotplug load some firmware files.  Is there a special location I need to store the firmware, or package I need to install to load it?  Eg, in Gentoo, the files were stored in /lib/firmware, and I had to install "hotplug"
[03:26] <ccooke> dmitri: what make?
[03:26] <Paladine> !win32-codecs
[03:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about win32-codecs
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox:  where did you start if from?
[03:26] <Paladine> !info win32-codecs
[03:26] <ubotu> Package win32-codecs does not exist in dapper
[03:26] <gnomefreak> !codecs > Paladine
[03:26] <templtn> hello
[03:26] <_nano_> !win32
[03:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about win32
[03:26] <craigtmackenzie> i'm having a problem with installing / running ubuntu 6.06 LTS via parallels on mac os x tiger on a macbook pro
[03:27] <_nano_> what's "parallels"?
[03:27] <aurelyano_18> how do i restart xserver from terimnal?
[03:27] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow kconsole - sudo parted
[03:27] <dmitri> ccooke: 0000:00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 01)
[03:27] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow home
[03:27] <orbin> aurelyano_18: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:27] <POVaddct> pm2: it's /lib/firmware/<your_kernel_version>
[03:27] <craigtmackenzie> _nano_:  parallels is a virtulization suite for mac osx
[03:27] <craigtmackenzie> and others
[03:27] <pm2> POVaddct, ok, and there's no additional software I need to install to have it loaded?
[03:27] <_nano_> craigtmackenzie, ah i see
[03:28] <ccooke> dmitri: Try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[03:28] <craigtmackenzie> http://www.parallels.com/
[03:28] <bigjoe> I'll be right back
[03:28] <templtn> when i run an apt-get upgrade, some packages are "kept back". Why that? How dangerous is it to apt-get install them   ?
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: one sec
[03:28] <templtn> those packages are : linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-686
[03:28] <dmitri> ccooke: i did before...and the conexant auto modem detect tried to install the very drivers we just removed!
[03:29] <dmitri> ccooke: i can try again though
[03:29] <templtn> the box is running smoothly, mind you, i was just wondering why they werent upgraded by apt
[03:29] <PanicFo> i have a question.. is there no installation manual on the ubuntu.com website??
[03:29] <craigtmackenzie> 5.01 installs fine on parallels but as soon as upgraded to 6.06 from update manager, when in restarted it just said failed
[03:29] <ccooke> dmitri: ahhh!
[03:29] <ccooke> dmitri: wait a sec
[03:30] <ccooke> dmitri:according to your lspci, it seems to be an Intel one
[03:30] <Deanodriver> does anyone have any ideas?
[03:30] <Deanodriver> sorry, but it really annoys me with it resetting all the time
[03:30] <jmspeex> Does Dapper use rtlimits or something?
[03:30] <PanicFo> it seems very odd that a popular distro like ubuntu doesnt have a readily available installation manual somewhere
[03:31] <ccooke> dmitri: try 'sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0m'
[03:31] <KenSentMe> Deanodriver: here's how to turn off both shortcuts: http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg10t19.htm
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: Start by closing down that window, and installing Gparted..
[03:31] <Deanodriver> thanks
[03:31] <jonah1980> hi, i've got amd64 ubuntu, is there any easy way to update certain packages that came with it - a lot are older than 32bit ubuntu, like scribus and treeline for example won't open files i made in ubuntu 32 on my old system!
[03:31] <Deanodriver> but i only need the one :)
[03:31] <craigtmackenzie> anyone installed on a mac via parallels
[03:31] <ccooke> dmitri: then see if the software detects a modem
[03:31] <KenSentMe> Deanodriver: then you can always use sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:31] <dmitri> ccooke: says it found new audio device!
[03:32] <Deanodriver> good point
[03:32] <Deanodriver> thanks a lot :)
[03:32] <ccooke> dmitri: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto#head-4be470bbae4b120bd5f6101c9aa218df7518b0c7
[03:32] <dmitri> ccooke: i remember i had this message last time, when i was going through the process - i guess its the mode's audio driver
[03:32] <T3hAubustou> hello, i've got a problem with a Compact Flash adapter on PCMCIA
[03:32] <Chetic> Totem sucks
[03:32] <ccooke> dmitri: try the URL I just gave you
[03:32] <KenSentMe> Deanodriver: no problem
[03:32] <definity> once i got the kernel sources how do i out the madwifi with it and compile it
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Chetic: Nice way to enter the home of Ubuntu
[03:34] <craigtmackenzie> i'm trying to get an array of days (as strings) and associated AR results for that day, so far i have: http://pastie.caboo.se/3685
[03:34] <craigtmackenzie> oops wrong channel!
[03:34] <Deanodriver> thanks KenSentMe, i'll restart X and give it a shot
[03:34] <Chetic> Jack_Sparrow: Hey. I can't help it. It just doesn't play a single video file I have
[03:34] <Deanodriver> brb
[03:34] <jonah1980> Jack_Sparrow, surely if i've got a package installed there must be a way to force an update from the 32bit respository? can you advise me at all, you were a great help yesterday
[03:35] <Lobster> may the file is corupted
[03:35] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow I exectued it: sudo gparted and it said (it's still running) warning: unable to open /dev/hdc rad write - opened read only, error unable to open /dev/hdc unrecognised disk label
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: because you did NOT shut down that other window
[03:36] <jorenby> y iyot dha
[03:36] <skybox> okay, I'll do a kill on kconsole
[03:36] <dmitri> ccooke: ! looks like it works - amazing..thanks! i will test it properly later at home.
[03:36] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow same thing
[03:36] <jorenby> iyot ta buntagay
[03:37] <ccooke> dmitri: anything you used modprobe on, you should add to /etc/modules so it'll load on reboot
[03:37] <soccio> Hi
[03:37] <craigtmackenzie> anyone installed on a mac via parallels
[03:37] <soccio> Is there anybody who could help me with dmix and alsa?
[03:37] <dmitri> ccooke: you mean add that lines to modules?
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox:  skybox I want you to go to system then administration and run Gnome Partition Editor not from a term or knosole
[03:38] <Deanodriver> hi KenSentMe, now it won't restart when I press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, but it still does when I type in Shift-Backspace
[03:38] <ccooke> dmitri: just the names of modules
[03:38] <dmitri> ccooke: modprobe snd-intel8x0m
[03:39] <jonah1980> dudes? can anyone help me out?
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox:  if you do NOT see it there, ... Add/Install it
[03:39] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow done, but i'm not sure if there was a warning or not, okay gparted is up and running
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> skyb what do you see for partitions
[03:39] <ccooke> dmitri: just the module name - you don't need the 'modprobe' bit
[03:40] <skybox> partition /dev/hda1 ext3 size 115GB used 64GB unused 51 flags boot,   dev/hda2 extended size 1.467mb,   /dev/hda5 linux-swap size 1.467mb
[03:40] <robertj> what do I need to do to get automake to look for m4 macros in  vi /usr/share/aclocal-1.9
[03:40] <skybox> Jack_Sparrowpartition /dev/hda1 ext3 size 115GB used 64GB unused 51 flags boot,   dev/hda2 extended size 1.467mb,   /dev/hda5 linux-swap size 1.467mb
[03:40] <dmitri> ccooke: ok. one more thing - can u recommend a good GUI for gpg? I am using GNOMEPGP - but it does not encrypt files
[03:41] <ccooke> dmitri: sorry, I only use command-line tools
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox:  you may need to restart X if there was a warning.  You still have something open/running
[03:41] <dmitri> ccooke@ ok! btw - thanks a million for helping out - its great how you guys are at it - and for free!
[03:41] <ccooke> dmitri: try doing a search on 'gpg' in Synaptic (the package manager)
[03:41] <ccooke> dmitri: No worries.
[03:41] <skybox> according to process i'm cool, okay what's next jack_sparrow?
[03:42] <Deanodriver> don't worry, I got it working, thanks
[03:42] <Deanodriver> common XGL bug, apparently
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: You need to shrink your ext3
[03:43] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow, okay, let me guess if I shrink it over my free space, It will kill data? I currently have 51GB free, should I shrink my ext3 to 115 - 50 GB?
[03:43] <Staffan1> hallo
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: I would NOT cut it that close just go 40
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: you can fine tune later..  again, this is ill advised without a backup, please do not hold me responsible for the loss of your Ub install.
[03:45] <craigtmackenzie> anyone installed on a mac via parallels???
[03:45] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow no of course not
[03:45] <skybox> I will accept the outcome no matter what, you're not the one to blame
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> You will probably end up needing to run that from the livecd
[03:46] <skybox> Jack_sparrow, hmm, the resize/move butto is greyed, unclickable?
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> You cant unmount your Ubuntu partition
[03:47] <skybox> so, boot with live cd, console - gparted?
[03:47] <HBuzacott> Jack_Sparrow, unmount / ?
[03:47] <HBuzacott> Jack_Sparrow, if yes, then, no
[03:47] <skybox> also, how will gparted know what sectors/place of my hdd to free up space?
[03:48] <HBuzacott> Jack_Sparrow, that made no sense. You cannot unmount /
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> WHich is why he will boot to the livecd
[03:49] <HBuzacott> Jack_Sparrow, sorry I misread 'You cant unmount your Ubuntu partition' as 'Can you ...?
[03:49] <ghost_> Hi could  someone take a look at this please? some problem with building gems... dunno what im missing here have gcc and make etc..     http://rafb.net/paste/results/Ox5zAD76.html
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> HBuzacott: If you are running Gnome Partiton Editor and right click on a partition you have an option of UNMOUNT
[03:49] <bigjoe> ok I'm back
[03:50] <AgBullet> Hi everyone
[03:50] <aurelyano_18> how do i change the resolution from terminal ??????
[03:50] <bigjoe> anybody with similar problems about fan control ?
[03:50] <HBuzacott> Jack_Sparrow, but it is impossible. You CANNOT unmount the root. With a livecd the root is on the cd
[03:50] <HBuzacott> Jack_Sparrow, it is impossible to umount root
[03:50] <idefix> when is it going to be possible to select a whole row of checkboxes on a webpage simply by dragging a rectangle over it?
[03:51] <orbin> ghost_: why not just get it from apt?
[03:51] <AgBullet> I need some help about firefox...
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> HBuzacott: Please feel free to help skybox
[03:51] <whyami> will ubuntu to "talk to" and synchronize with Windows CE devices?
[03:51] <AgBullet> anyone???
[03:51] <HBuzacott> skybox, open the console/terminal
[03:51] <ghost_> umm well i'm working from home today... have almost identical setup on my dev machine here as at work and was just following the same steps that worked there...
[03:52] <orbin> ghost_: sorry.  my mistake.  might be on the wrong thing
[03:52] <HBuzacott> skybox, You want to unmount your / partition?
[03:52] <wsjunior> i have a ext3 data partition i would like to have it showed at the desktop. what do i have to do?
[03:52] <ghost_> wrong thing?
[03:52] <AgBullet> I can't open links from other programs
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> HBuzacott: he wants to shrink his ext3 Ubuntu partition
[03:52] <tjb891> ok, im trying o ifx sound in flashplayer, the wiki told me to put in sudo nano /etc/firefox/firefoxrc then to change  a line, after I cahnge the line though I don't know how to save it?
[03:53] <orbin> ghost_: i thought you wanted this:
[03:53] <orbin> !info gems
[03:53] <ubotu> gems: Shows a console session in several terminals. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.1-3 (dapper), package size 25 kB, installed size 144 kB
[03:53] <HBuzacott> Jack_Sparrow, ahh. Quite a pickle
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> HBuzacott:  waiting for you to tell him
[03:53] <ghost_> no sorry i should have included the first three lines in the paste
[03:53] <wsjunior> i have a ext3 data partition i would like to have it showed at the desktop. what do i have to do?
[03:53] <Led_Zeppelin> Trying to set up vncserver, how do I set the default desktop for vnc in ubuntu? I want to use gnome, btw
[03:53] <orbin> ghost_: anyway, if i read it right, you're missing extconf.rb?
[03:53] <ghost_> im installing the ruby gem ferret which is a ruby port of lucene....
[03:53] <tjb891> do I use the text editor instead of the console?
[03:54] <aurelyano_18> how do i change the resolution from terminal ????????????
[03:54] <aurelyano_18> how do i change the resolution from terminal ????????????
[03:54] <orbin> tjb891: ctrl+x
[03:54] <orbin> tjb891: then press y iirc
[03:54] <ghost_> hmmm okay
[03:54] <tjb891> ok, thankyou
[03:54] <orbin> tjb891: but yes, you can use any editor you wish
[03:54] <tjb891> that would be easier thx
[03:54] <ghost_> not really sure what to do about that but its something to be getting on with... thanks
[03:54] <orbin> tjb891: e.g. gksudo 'gedit <file?'
[03:55] <orbin> whoops
[03:55] <orbin> gksudo 'gedit <file>'
[03:55] <HBuzacott> skybox, it is possible to resize your root but it is difficult. I am looking around for a nice tool for yo to use. gparted might be able to do it.
[03:55] <molnar> hi
[03:55] <HBuzacott> skybox, when I say difficult I mean excedingly difficult
[03:56] <orbin> aurelyano_18: change your modelines or reconfigure the xorg package then restart X?
[03:56] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow/HBuzacott, when I boot with my live cd, I should just type gparted at the prompt or ? since there's no gui, what's the command to shrink the partition and the correct file size for 40GB in terms of numbers, how will gparted know WHAT sectors to resize and not the entire partition meaning a loss of data? HBuzacott I see, well i'm not gonna give up just yet!
[03:56] <Led_Zeppelin> W: GPG error: http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl dapper-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[03:56] <Led_Zeppelin> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[03:56] <Led_Zeppelin> how do I fix that?
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> HBuzacott: Running Gparted from the live cd or from the ultimate boot cd should work fine
[03:56] <Led_Zeppelin> i ran, apt-get update still does not fix it
[03:56] <gnomefreak> Led_Zeppelin: you need to get seveas key than
[03:56] <gnomefreak> !seveas
[03:56] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:57] <aurelyano_18> how do i reconfigure xorg????
[03:57] <gnomefreak> Led_Zeppelin: go to the above site and follow the ho to get his key ^^
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox:  Live cd should put you into Ubuntu GUI
[03:57] <HBuzacott> skybox, boot to GNOME, then open gparted (System > Admin > Disks)
[03:57] <skybox> ah
[03:57] <gnomefreak> aurelyano_18: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:57] <skybox> I'll start xchat from there and continue, thanks guy, rebooting now
[03:58] <skybox> thanks guys*
[03:58] <orbin> aurelyano_18: backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file first
[03:58] <Led_Zeppelin> gnomefreak: thanks, just took out that site from sources.list. don't think I need anything from there
[03:59] <tjb891> can anyone tell me how to us ethe text editor as root?
[03:59] <tjb891> *the
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> HBuzacott: Once heshrinks that he needs to create a 40 gig ntfs, then he needs to edit his old Ubuntu to look for itself on a different partition then he has to goinstall windows then he needs to repir grub bootloader
[03:59] <erUSUL> Led_Zeppelin: w32codecs...
[03:59] <Led_Zeppelin> erUSUL: hey you :-p
[03:59] <orbin> tjb891: gedit?  gksudo 'gedit <file>'
[03:59] <Led_Zeppelin> erUSUL: win32codecs ?
[04:00] <tjb891> ok thks
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> tjb891: sudo
[04:00] <orbin> tjb891: sudo if it's a console-mode editor
[04:00] <aurelyano_18> how do i restart xserver?
[04:00] <tjb891> ok
[04:00] <orbin> aurelyano_18: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> ctrl-backspace
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> I think
[04:01] <orbin> ctrl+alt+bckspc  ... not guaranteed to bring you back in though iirc
[04:02] <Led_Zeppelin> how do you configure default desktop in vnc
[04:02] <Led_Zeppelin> anyone know?
[04:02] <erUSUL> Led_Zeppelin: is package you will need from seveas repo (to see wmv)
[04:02] <Led_Zeppelin> erUSUL: well, I can get them manually from mplayer right?
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> HBuzacot he may also need to move his etx3 up so ntfs is the first partition
[04:03] <jonah1980> http://pastebin.ca/81441 - can anyone help me get round this?
[04:04] <luis> alguem usa ubuntu dapper 64 bits??
[04:05] <wildman> jonah1980: X devel pkgs missing?
[04:06] <orbin> jonah1980: what are you doing?
[04:06] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow/HBuzacott, what should do again? I'm in ubuntu now (live)
[04:06] <wildman> orbin: I guess he's trying to compile an X app...
[04:06] <jonah1980> i'm trying to install a newer version of tellico on my 64bit dapper
[04:06] <jonah1980> did the configure step and got that error
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Can you get to gparted
[04:06] <LjL> jonah1980: my guess: "sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-dev"
[04:06] <HBuzacott> skybox, System >admin > disks
[04:06] <skybox> I'm there
[04:07] <RShadow> can somebody explain to me the apache setup in Ubuntu? I wanted 2.2 but there is no simple way to tell apt-get that I already have apache installed.. so I have went with 2.0 in the repos
[04:07] <idefix> when is it going to be possible to select a whole row of checkboxes on a webpage simply by dragging over them?
[04:07] <RShadow> the problem is now I don't know understand the layout.. what is with the sites-enabled sites-available stuff?
[04:07] <jonah1980> ok done that, trying it again
[04:07] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow/HBuzacott, I can my hdd and information, shouldn't there be some sort of option for shrinking?
[04:07] <Ng> idefix: at least not until someone asks for it I would imagine, but that's an issue for firefox
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> What all needs to be changed when he adds a partition below his Ubuntu install in order for it to work, just his /boot/grub/menu.lst  ?
[04:08] <jonah1980> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[04:08] <gabrielhora> .
[04:08] <jonah1980> still get same message
[04:08] <idefix> Ng surely it happens often enough
[04:08] <Ng> RShadow: the idea is that the relevant configs for each site/virtualhost go in a file in /etc/sites-available/ and the ones that are symlinked to /etc/sites-enabled/ are loaded when apache starts
[04:08] <dmitr1> ccooke: hey there...sorry, upon booting up - truecrypt is not working - even though i rebuilt it as per http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199367&highlight=truecrypt - it says "Failed to load TrueCrypt kernel module"
[04:08] <HBuzacott> skybox, sorry, you have to go into the terminal and type sudo gparted
[04:09] <Ng> idefix: I use tab&space when the situation arises. Either way, either file a wishlist bug in ubuntu or firefox's bug reporting system
[04:09] <HBuzacott> skybox, you may need to do a sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:09] <LjL> jonah1980: you could use auto-apt to see what exactly it is trying to find
[04:09] <RShadow> Ng, thats was I assumed, but upon a default install instead of getting the page I get a directory index with a folder for the "default" site.
[04:09] <skybox> HBuzactott, evrytime I do that, I get an error
[04:09] <HBuzacott> saying?
[04:09] <skybox> Unable to open /dev/hdc read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/hdc has been opened read-only.
[04:09] <skybox> Error: Unable to open /dev/hdc - unrecognised disk label.
[04:10] <LjL> jonah1980: "sudo aptitude install auto-apt", then "sudo auto-apt update", and then in the program's directory, "auto-apt run ./configure"
[04:10] <ALDI> Is it possible to see the cpu load of the processes at the dash in ubuntu? Like the taskmanager in windows?
[04:10] <Tarantulafudge> how come tremulous isn't in the ubuntu repository
[04:10] <Ng> ALDI: "the dash"?
[04:10] <dmitr1> i guess ccooke is not online anymore - can someone else help me please
[04:10] <orbin> ALDI: add the system mon. applet?
[04:10] <LjL> jonah1980: but *don't* just blindly answer "yes" to every package it proposes to install, because that way you'll pollute your system with useless packages.
[04:10] <ALDI> Ng: the console
[04:10] <Ng> RShadow: strange. you don't have to use them if you don't want to, you can just edit the /etc/apache2/conf/ files directly
[04:10] <idefix> Ng hey cool solution tabtabspace thx
[04:10] <Ng> ALDI: top
[04:10] <LjL> jonah1980: just ignore all the packages it asks you to install, until you can pinpoint the one it's actually missing
[04:10] <skybox> HBuzactott, gparted is still running, but there 2 -3 errors in the console
[04:10] <ALDI> Ng: How do i do that?
[04:11] <HBuzacott> skybox, is the window up?
[04:11] <skybox> yes
[04:11] <Wilburt> anyone know how to get flux box up and running?
[04:11] <Ng> ALDI: if you're in a console, just run "top". if you're logged in to the desktop you can do System->Administration->System Monitor
[04:11] <Ng> ALDI: also there's a System Monitor panel applet
[04:11] <thenuke> Wilburt: apt-get install fluxbox ?
[04:11] <HBuzacott> skybox, can you edit the partition size?
[04:11] <skybox> yup
[04:11] <Wilburt> thenuke: i did that, sorta new to it, only installed ubuntu last night
[04:11] <RShadow> Ng, thats my plan.. sudo rm -rf /etc/apache2 and do my own the way the apache folks (and nearly everybody else) wants it done...
[04:11] <ALDI> Ng: thanx, top is what I was looking for!
[04:11] <orbin> Tarantulafudge: they didn't submit in time?
[04:12] <jonah1980> LjL, how will i know which one to answer yes to?
[04:12] <skybox> Resize /dev/hda1 , and I see a new window for a new sieze
[04:12] <Ng> RShadow: Ubuntu's config layout is inherited from Debian. It does actually make sense and is way more granular than the default plan of chucking everything in one huge file
[04:12] <RShadow> btw: is there a timeline for 2.2 in the repos? it is after all the suggested version from apache
[04:12] <RShadow> Ng, actualy the 2.2 layout is very logical..
[04:12] <skybox> HBuzactott, but what about the errors? also how will gparted KNOW what sectors to resize? how do I know it won't resize my system? will it only resize with the remainig free space?
[04:12] <Ng> RShadow: it'll probably be in Edgy, but it depends how quickly it's moving into debian
[04:12] <Foobal> Ng: ... and sucks majorly if you compare with Elektra :)
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: have faith on that point
[04:13] <LjL> jonah1980: just answer no to everything. when, eventually, the configure fails with that X error, take note of the *last* package that it proposed you to install. then tell me which package it was, and we'll see if it looks like the right one
[04:13] <thenuke> Wilburt: does it not then ask if you want to use gnome or fluxbox?
[04:13] <IRCMonkeyx> hi people, i have win xp and ubuntu 6.06 in my system, when i want to change OS, i do re-start, is there any other way to do it easily??
[04:13] <thenuke> Wilburt: as far as I know, it should do that
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> brb wife needs me
[04:13] <HBuzacott> skybox, it should not effect your hard drive, the modules that uses would be under hda*
[04:13] <Ng> IRCMonkeyx: rebooting is the only way to change OS at the moment
[04:13] <dr_willis> IRCMonkeyx,  At boot time - there should be a menu - to select what OS to boot ti.
[04:13] <RShadow> Ng, the one thing what I would love to see is a way to tell apt-get something is already installed.  With Gentoo this was too easy.. made my life easy.. now I'm banging my head trying to learn the "debian/ubuntu" way :(
[04:13] <dmitr1> hi - can anyone help with truecrypt not loading after updating to a new linux-686?
[04:14] <Ng> RShadow: unfortunately I've forgotten the name of the package, but there is something that lets you make fake packages to satisfy dependencies
[04:14] <Ng> RShadow: generally it's just best to stick with packages of things, then you don't have a problem :)
[04:14] <LjL> RShadow: checkinstall
[04:14] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow/HBuzacott, okay I understand, another thing, i'm gonna free up more space? I currently have 50GB free, i'm gonna set it to free up 40GB
[04:14] <Foobal> or make the packages yourself
[04:15] <LjL> RShadow: if you use checkinstall to install a package from source, then APT will know it's already installed.
[04:15] <LjL> !tell rshadow about checkinstall
[04:15] <IRCMonkeyx> dr-willis: yes there is menu, but is is in startup, i meant when am using of one of OS, to go into other one without rebooting...
[04:15] <RShadow> LjL, thnx
[04:15] <Wilburt> thenuke: didnt ask, il have a poke about
[04:15] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow/HBuzacott, New Size (MB) what would be the correct number for 40GB? and Free Space Following (MB) ?
[04:15] <IRCMonkeyx> Ng: they do it, i know
[04:16] <Ng> IRCMonkeyx: they?
[04:16] <HBuzacott> skybox, how big is current partition?
[04:16] <IRCMonkeyx> Ng: it is possible by using a hardware called as changer
[04:16] <Wilburt> thenuke: just did apt-get install fluxbox, says "fluxbox is already newest versin" so i have it installed, just dont know how to run i think
[04:16] <skybox> Partition /dev/hda1 (MY ONLY ONE) size 115.773 (MB) Used 58,805 (MB) Unused 56.968 (MB)
[04:17] <Ng> IRCMonkeyx: never heard of it. use that if it works then.
[04:17] <dmitr1> ccooke: hey mate - i got a problem with truecrypt upon rebooting
[04:17] <Rimaille_> Wilburt: just select a fluxbox session in your login manager (gdm, kdm..)
[04:17] <IRCMonkeyx> Ng: I dont have it, and not cheap. In that system, both os's work at background, you only change monitor
[04:17] <Wilburt> Rimaille_: ah ok cool il try that thanks :)
[04:18] <HBuzacott> skybox, 400960 is equal to 40 gigabytes
[04:18] <skybox> HBuzacott/Jack_Sparrow  Partition /dev/hda1 (MY ONLY ONE) size 115.773 (MB) Used 58,805 (MB) Unused 56.968 (MB)
[04:18] <thenuke> Wilburt: when I tried to install different window managers, I just apt-getted them and then I was able to choose which one of them to start
[04:18] <Ng> IRCMonkeyx: that's not changing OS, that's just having two computers connected to one set of keyboard/video/mouse, surely? If so that's a KVM.
[04:18] <jonah1980> LjL, i've clicked cancel like a million times and it's just going on forever! is there not an easier way?
[04:18] <thenuke> Wilburt: and you have rebooted or restarted X?
[04:18] <skybox> okay, and what do they mean by Free Space Following (MB) it's at 0 at the moment
[04:18] <HBuzacott> skybox, is this in MB or GB?
[04:19] <Wilburt> thenuke: il reboot now and see, try and login to fluxbox session like Rimaille_ said
[04:19] <Rimaille_> dont reboot
[04:19] <HBuzacott> skybox, make that 0 a 40 I assume
[04:19] <LjL> jonah1980: in these cases, i'd usually just ask you to point me to the URL for the program you're trying to install. however, since i'm using 32 bit Kubuntu, i'm not sure it'd help too much in this case
[04:19] <Wilburt> dont ok, just log out yeah?
[04:19] <thenuke> Wilburt: try logging out of gnome instead
[04:19] <skybox> HBuzacott, the window I have open is only (MB)
[04:19] <Rimaille_> just do ctrl alt suppr, or disconnect from your actual session
[04:19] <skybox> okay
[04:19] <can-o-worms> i did a server install and now i have changed my mind and want to install the desktop as well, can anyone tell me what to apt-get to get the whole shebang in one hit?
[04:19] <skybox> wierd
[04:19] <Wilburt> k il try that
[04:19] <orbin> can-o-worms: which desktop? :)
[04:19] <dr_willis> can-o-worms,  'ubuntu-desktop'
[04:20] <Rimaille_> erf... not ctrl alt suppr... strl alt delete (for rebooting your X server)
[04:20] <dr_willis> may be easier to reinstall. :)
[04:20] <skybox> HBuzacott, evrytime I try to edit the new size, and I move on by clicking or goin to the next phase, it goes back to my full size 115
[04:20] <can-o-worms> dr_willis: thanks, I'll give that a whirl
[04:20] <jonah1980> Ljl, i've gotta go out now so i'll just have to come back later and see if anyone can help. thanks anyway
[04:20] <IRCMonkeyx> Ng: I talk for one computer , in fact i am crazy cause of modem, and i am gonna hate linux, since 3 days trying to install a modem!!! this is my first time in linux
[04:20] <dr_willis> if ya got a desktop cd that is.
[04:20] <LjL> jonah1980: perhaps you can use the "-s" switch of auto-apt ("auto-apt -s run ./configure"), that way it will not ask you to install, it should just list the packages instead
[04:20] <HBuzacott> skybox, have anymore errors come out in the terminal
[04:20] <dr_willis> Hate the Modem, not the OS. :)
[04:20] <HBuzacott> ?
[04:20] <root_> !cedega
[04:21] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[04:21] <skybox> hmm, I missed this one Error: Unable to open /dev/mapper/casper-cow - unrecognised disk label.
[04:21] <Tarantulafudge> Why isn't tremulous a package?
[04:21] <dr_willis> Tarantulafudge,  because  no one has bothered to make it one yet? :)
[04:21] <jurgen> does anyone know where i can get cedega wine?
[04:21] <LjL> bah - they compile programs, can't find the -dev packages, and are in a hurry :\ why don't they just use the prebuilt packages, i say
[04:21] <dr_willis> Tarantulafudge,  i just downloaded it from their web site and ran the installer.
[04:21] <idefix> when using FTP on a windows machine put temp/* or put temp/*.* didn't work for some odd reason
[04:21] <LjL> !tell jurgen about cedega
[04:21] <IRCMonkeyx> dr_willis: i found procedure to install, it is needed re-compiling kernel, one new user can do it??
[04:21] <robotangel> cedega - pay or use cvs version
[04:21] <Rimaille_> jurgen: yes, buy it from transgaming site :p
[04:21] <robotangel> wine : wine.sf.net
[04:21] <Tarantulafudge> dr_willis: http://people.debian.org/~acid/tremulous/
[04:21] <Wilburt> got it working, thanks guys
[04:21] <jurgen> Rimaille_:  sure?
[04:21] <idefix> do you people use windows machines at all now that there's linux?
[04:22] <dr_willis> Tarantulafudge,  ive played that game till i puked... :) giving up on it for now.
[04:22] <skybox> HBuzacott, I can't copy and paste a number I have to manully input it by browsing
[04:22] <jurgen> robotangel:  where can i find cvs+
[04:22] <jurgen> ?
[04:22] <dr_willis> idefix,  i use whatever tool  works best for the job at hand.
[04:22] <IRCMonkeyx> dr_willis: And i ask in forum, noone answers
[04:22] <idefix> dr_willis, so what's wrong with my command?
[04:22] <HBuzacott> skybox, browsing? What do you mean?
[04:22] <Wilburt>  /part
[04:22] <panzar> is there any easy way to remove all kde applications? uninstalling kubuntu-desktop doesn't seem to remove any apps.
[04:22] <Wilburt> doh n~~b
[04:22] <Rimaille_> jurgen : http://transgaming.org/cvs/
[04:22] <biopol> I have trouble trying to automount floppy disks... It won't automount... what can I do? I hve ubuntu 5.10
[04:23] <LjL> panzar: you could try "sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt". that will remove all KDE *and* all Qt apps
[04:23] <dr_willis> IRCMonkeyx,  yep.. modems are slowly dieing out.. and the winmodem fiasco of years past - is still haunting us. Good luck with getting winmodems working.
[04:23] <skybox> HBuzacott, New Size (MB) 115773, if I copy and paste the new number it will go back to 115773 as soon as I do something else, the only way I can alter the number is by clicking it down to 400 something
[04:23] <robotangel> biopol: how should your pc know that a floppy was inserted?
[04:23] <LjL> panzar: or "sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2a" (if you're using dapper), that should remove most/all KDE apps
[04:24] <idefix> dr_willis, can it be that only the logged in user can use it? but then since he ws logged in and I was using his machine, why on earth didn't it work?
[04:24] <IRCMonkeyx> dr_willis: what modems are good for linux, any suggested site?
[04:24] <biopol> robotangel, when clicking on Floppy folder
[04:24] <robotangel> ircmonkeyx: DSL or Dialup?
[04:24] <thenuke> IRCMonkeyx: what I know is that you better avoid 'windows modems'
[04:24] <biopol> robotangel, when trying to save some file to the floppy drive
[04:25] <IRCMonkeyx> robotangel: dsl
[04:25] <dr_willis> IRCMonkeyx,  I perfer REAL 'external' modems that plug in to the serial port. But not sure where to even find those any more. Could check the various Linux-pc maker sites and see what they include on theur linux ready pcs
[04:25] <ljr_1988> why does synaptic leave packages "unchanged"
[04:25] <HBuzacott> skybox, so you want to make that partition 40 /GB/ smaller?
[04:25] <robotangel> IRCMonkeyx: Sry, i dont know much about dsl modems and linux...
[04:25] <thenuke> IRCMonkeyx: like willis said, you propably cant go wrong if you buy an external one
[04:25] <void^> dsl modems should be ethernet.
[04:25] <HBuzacott> ljr_1988, because they are not being updated
[04:26] <Ng> void^: not necessarily
[04:26] <HBuzacott> ljr_1988, they ahve an update but you have not selected to upgrade them
[04:26] <ljr_1988> HBuzacott: is there anyway I can get them updated?
[04:26] <zheny1> what's the "proper" way to tweak .Xsession in ubuntu?
[04:26] <skybox> HBuzacott, my current partition got around 50GB free, and you or sparow told me to reshink /dev/hda1 or I'm I missing something?
[04:26] <Guyver`> Hello
[04:26] <sime[] > Has anyone built a 2.6.16/17 kernel unofficially for dapper and provided the .deb
[04:26] <dr_willis> zheny1,  whats to tweak? its a text file
[04:26] <Hobbsee> sime[] : see ubuntuforums.org for that
[04:26] <void^> Ng: what advantages does usb provide over ethernet, for dsl modems?
[04:26] <HBuzacott> ljr_1988, select 'mark all updates' button in the tool button in synaptic
[04:27] <thenuke> IRCMonkeyx: oh, you meant the xDSL-modem, then you can pick anyone you like if it is external
[04:27] <dr_willis> Hmm we are tallinmg about DSL modems? or dial Up modems?
[04:27] <zheny1> dr_wills: if I just put $HOME/.xsession, does that get picked up, or does that override something?
[04:27] <AZzKikR> hmmm, when i close the channel window in Gaim it disconnects me right away from the channel... crap
[04:27] <ljr_1988> HBuzacott: I'd done that, but ti wasn't marked, I just tried to upgrade it by searching for it and going to mark for upgrade, but apparently there's an unresolved dependency
[04:27] <dr_willis> zheny1,  i cant recall ever messing with .xsession, i tend to use .xinitrc for when i use 'startx'
[04:27] <HBuzacott> skybox, lets start again. What do you want to do?
[04:27] <IRCMonkeyx> in fact my modem is globespan wan usb modem, i use adsl
[04:27] <dr_willis> zheny1,  i think some kdm/gdm/xdm programs have a entry that will read/run the .xsession.
[04:28] <Chilavert> s
[04:28] <skybox> HBuzacott, well im currently on UBUNTU and I want to DUAL BOOT with windwos WITHOUT killing/overwritting any data, and I was told it's possible to install windows with a dual boot along with your current system and still keep linux
[04:28] <zheny1> thx, dr_willis...  I'll poke around
[04:28] <HBuzacott> ljr_1988, open a terminal and type sudo apt-get -f update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:29] <IRCMonkeyx> i found the procedure to install but i dont know how to do it....  http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/doc.php?file=eciadsl_install&doc_lang=en&view=html
[04:29] <HBuzacott> skybox, so you want to make your Ubuntu partition bigger or smaller?
[04:29] <IRCMonkeyx> it says put into kernel etc... i dont know how to put into kernel
[04:29] <ljr_1988> HBuzacott: OK - tried that - they still aren't updated, they rely on a dependency which isn't there apparently
[04:30] <HBuzacott> ljr_1988, what is the output of apt?
[04:30] <skybox> HBuzacott, heh sorry, I really don't know , I currenty have 50GB free on my only partition /dev/hda1, and i'm just wondering how I should proceed? I told Jack_Sparrow about my ubuntu - windows thing and I thought I had to create another partiton, but he told me to resize my current one, do you unerstand?
[04:31] <ljr_1988> HBuzacott: Its the compiz and compiz-gnome packages from the quinnware repos - it says it needs libsvg-cairo >= version something, and the only version in the repos is less than that
[04:31] <ljr_1988> HBuzacott: that was what synaptic said anyway
[04:31] <void^> IRCMonkeyx: as far as i can see, the ubuntu kernel comes with all those modules. to blacklist the dabusb module, add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:31] <dr_willis> skybox,  i normally resize the existing windows partitions, and leave a section of the hard drive UNALLOCATED, and let the installer then partition that part itself.
[04:31] <void^> IRCMonkeyx: it seems that guide is pretty old, might want to search for a newer/ubuntu specific guide
[04:32] <orbin> skybox: you can't create one until you have free space to make one in. Jack_Sparrow was on the right track
[04:32] <HBuzacott> ljr_1988, you can download the .deb for libsvg-cairo off packages.ubuntu.com then edit the name so it ups the version
[04:32] <IRCMonkeyx> void^: that's the only one document that i could found for my modem:(
[04:32] <skybox> Orbin I currently have around 56GB free on my partition
[04:33] <skybox> my main one - /dev/hda1
[04:33] <HBuzacott> ljr_1988, A very dirty way to upgrade packages. Most packages it will work
[04:33] <skybox> only one
[04:33] <ljr_1988> HBuzacott: will that not mess it up?? Why it would say it relies on version x, if it really only needs less than version x?
[04:33] <Fetale> hello
[04:33] <void^> IRCMonkeyx: how about https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/EciAdsl
[04:33] <ljr_1988> HBuzacott: do you think I would be able to get the genuine later version package somewhere/
[04:33] <riccardomurri> hello
[04:34] <dockane> hi all.. how do i find out which version of madwifi-ng is build into linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-686?
[04:34] <void^> IRCMonkeyx: oops, ignore that, just links to your site. :/
[04:34] <skybox> dr_willis, yes but i'm on linux and I want to dual boot with windows without formating my entire system
[04:34] <HBuzacott> ljr_1988, yes. you could probably find a deb or find a rpm and use alien
[04:34] <IRCMonkeyx> void^: i found that site from the link that u wrote
[04:34] <IRCMonkeyx> :)
[04:34] <riccardomurri> does anybody know how to force the 6.06 live cd to boot into a specific screen resolution?
[04:34] <ljr_1988> HBuzacott: thanks, I'll look around, I might just try a different tutorial to get xgl working...
[04:34] <dmitr1> how do i force run  a package (eg. need to force truecrypt to work under current kernel) ?
[04:34] <dr_willis> skybox,  i never had to format,, rezised the ntfs, installed to the then unallocated space.  is what i normally do
[04:35] <mooseman447> hey dr_willis
[04:35] <HBuzacott> ljr_1988,skybox, sorry I have to leave but it is late here and I am tired. Hope I helped.
[04:35] <skybox> dr_willis yes.. but I currenlty only have 1 partition and it's ext3 on lnux
[04:35] <skybox> HBuzacott ah it's okay, thanks for your help
[04:35] <ljr_1988> thanks
[04:35] <mooseman447> did i tell you i succesfully chrooted proftpd with one line in the conf? :)
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Hi
[04:35] <riccardomurri> i have an ibook g3, and the dapper live boots at 640x480...
[04:35] <skybox> according to the guide i'm suppose to create another partition
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry, wife needed me
[04:36] <robotangel> lol
[04:36] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow lol
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> How is it going,
[04:36] <riccardomurri> ...so i cannot use the installer because the dialog boxes don't fit the screen :-(
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> havent read back yet
[04:36] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow well i'm a bit lost to be honest
[04:36] <skybox> i'm still on the live cd , gparted running
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Please say where you are at
[04:36] <IRCMonkeyx> linux modems are expensive??
[04:36] <skybox> but I don't understand why I should free up more space? currently there's 50GB free on this partition
[04:37] <robotangel> riccard: try to edit xorg.conf and restart X
[04:37] <lostinc> What package do you install if you want to compile software
[04:37] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: 50 gig is fine I said 40 would do for now
[04:37] <skybox> I can't access the guide either, since its' on my real linux setup
[04:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Have you resized the partition
[04:37] <orbin> skybox: but it's still part of the ubuntu partition  resizing will 'unallocate' some
[04:38] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow, but do you remmeber? I'm confused , resizing/move is the only option I can use
[04:38] <gnomefreak> lostinc: build-essential
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: so resize your ext3
[04:38] <gnomefreak> lostinc: may need more than that but thats a good starter package
[04:38] <lostinc> Will this include both compilers for C and C++?
[04:38] <skybox> Minimum Size 58821 MB Maximum Size 115773 MB
[04:38] <void^> IRCMonkeyx: install the eciadsl package, you should be able to start at chapter 3 on that guide
[04:38] <skybox> too what Jack_Sparrow?
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: drop it by 40
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> to 80
[04:39] <gnomefreak> lostinc: yes
[04:39] <skybox> like, 109872 ?
[04:39] <lostinc> Thanks
[04:39] <skybox> I took full size 115773 - 80 is that right?
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> 80000
[04:40] <idefix> how do you call a solution to a complex problem that seems illogical at first sight (but does work)?
[04:40] <gnomefreak> lostinc: yw
[04:40] <Ropechoborra> When i try to save a torrent (in a fat32 partition) it says i dont have root access =/
[04:40] <Ropechoborra> With ktorrent
[04:40] <lostinc> To install a new version of a program (sane - xsane) do I (should I) remove the old versions?
[04:40] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow so the right number would be 35773 ?
[04:40] <skybox> New Size 35773 ?
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: it would be 80000
[04:40] <Ropechoborra> lostinc, no, i guess
[04:40] <gnomefreak> lostinc: are you building it or using apt to install it
[04:40] <AZzKikR> For an nVidia nforce mobo thingy driver, i need to install the kernel source. With apt I can see the packages kernel-source-2.6.1, and uname -a prints out 2.6.15-25-386. If i download that source, would it be the correct one?
[04:41] <IRCMonkeyx> void^: no need to patch ?
[04:41] <orbin> Ropechoborra: did you mount it w/ rw permissions?
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> you are shrinking the existing 115gig down to 80 gig
[04:41] <Wddit> is there a way to turn off the monitor automaticly? and i dont mean blank screen!
[04:41] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow i'm confused, sorry it's the heat, i have 2 boxes 1 for New size (currently it says 115773) and free space following by
[04:41] <Ropechoborra> orbin, how do i check that?
[04:41] <void^> IRCMonkeyx: should be fine, just make sure the dabusb module isn't loaded
[04:41] <skybox> the new number for new size would be 80000 ?
[04:41] <Toge> can I mount a mdf/mds imagen?
[04:41] <lostinc> Unfortunatly Apt does not have the up to date version of either XSane or Sane. I need the features of the newer versions.
[04:42] <thenuke> Wddit: check your bios, if your monitor supports different kind of power saving options
[04:42] <orbin> Ropechoborra: gksudo 'gedit /etc/fstab' ... then look at the fstab section here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> You want 40 gigs of freespace before
[04:42] <lostinc> So I am forced to build it from source.
[04:42] <Toge> (i dont want to convert mdf/mds to .iso image)
[04:42] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow the new number in the box would be 80000?
[04:42] <Ropechoborra> Thanks
[04:42] <IRCMonkeyx> void^: could you tell me the command to know it?
[04:42] <richee> how will I setup a cron job to run everyday at 12 at night ?
[04:42] <orbin> lostinc: i don't think you need to remove it, no.  but personally i do it anyway.
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> One sec..
[04:42] <skybox> Remember this is in MB
[04:42] <gnomefreak> lostinc: if your gonna build it from tar remove the version you have and run sudo apt-get build-dep xsane   (than start compiling it)
[04:43] <orbin> lostinc: mainly b/c i use checkinstall to install stuff from src
[04:43] <void^> IRCMonkeyx: lsmod | grep dabusb
[04:43] <gnomefreak> have to no but normally a good idea
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: put in 80 and adjust the last box to 0 using the middle box
[04:43] <lostinc> Gnomefreak what does that command do?
[04:44] <AZzKikR> let me ask it in another way. I just freshly installed Dapper, and i need the kernel source/headers. What do i need to apt-get?
[04:44] <gnomefreak> lostinc: brings in all packages you need to compile xsane
[04:44] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow you want me to input new size (MB) 80?
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: Sorry it is early here... just waiting for first cup of coffee
[04:44] <IRCMonkeyx> void^: thanx, now i will reboot to try:)
[04:44] <skybox> 80MB ?
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: yes
[04:44] <gnomefreak> lostinc: or you will sit there sudo apt-get install bleh   crap i need that one too :( sudo apt-get ....
[04:44] <skybox> Jack Sparrow from 115773MB to 80MB?
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: Yes and adjust either of the first two to make the last number 0
[04:45] <gnomefreak> lostinc: it saves alot of headache and time
[04:45] <biopol> I cannot write a CD using the CD/DD Burner utility... why is that?
[04:45] <Wddit>  thenuke: i checked it. and this option doesnt appear there.
[04:45] <Wddit> altought, windows applies it
[04:45] <Jemt> biopol: Any errors ?
[04:45] <biopol> i got this message: "Insert a blank CD/DVD into the drive"
[04:45] <lostinc> I see. Gnomefreak: Should I also do this for SANE? Oh and will it know what dependenciies to get if the version I am building is newer than the one in APT?
[04:45] <Pip> what is the path for the gdm/gnome desktop in Ubuntu Desktop?
[04:45] <orbin> biopol: what media is it?
[04:46] <dr_willis> Pip,  Huh?
[04:46] <biopol> cd rw
[04:46] <biopol> blank cdrw
[04:46] <IRCMonkeyx> void^: will i write this "dpkg -i /path/eciadsl-usermode_x.y-1_i386.deb" into terminal? for installing?
[04:46] <gnomefreak> do it fors xsane first than do it for sane just incase there are overlapping packages
[04:46] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow well as soon as I input 80 and press tab it goes to 5802 something and the 2nd bar about the same
[04:46] <snoops> IRCMonkeyx to install deb files in dapper you can also just double click them for a gui installer
[04:46] <snoops> as well as the command line version
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: read me the numbers top to bottom
[04:47] <Ropechoborra> Is there a problem with help.ubuntu.com ?? i cant open the web
[04:47] <Pip> the execute path for gnome desktop in ubuntu... like kde would be startkde or something like that?
[04:47] <biopol> orbin, Jemt, It happens with a cdrw or a cd-r
[04:47] <Juhaz> Pip, gnome-session
[04:47] <lostinc> I understand you Gnomefreak but I am asking how does it know waht dependencies and their versions to get if the version in the apt program is older than the one I will compile from source?
[04:47] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow New Size (MB) 58821 2nd bar Free Space Following (MB) 56952
[04:47] <void^> IRCMonkeyx: this is ubuntu's package: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/e/eciadsl/eciadsl_0.11-3_i386.deb
[04:47] <Jemt> biopol: You keep getting the same error again and again, even though you re-insert the CD `?
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: read me the numbers top to bottom
[04:48] <biopol> Jemt, yes
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: X,X,X
[04:48] <gnomefreak> lostinc: apt = advanced package tool it knows all (most of the time the packages you need to compile will be same
[04:48] <skybox> hold on
[04:48] <finalbeta> Anyone knows vuescan? Not available thru apt-get?
[04:48] <Fetale> I seem to be having a hard time tracking down the build-essentials package, is there a specific channel I'm supposed to open?
[04:48] <biopol> Jemt, automount works fine, it detects it is a virgin cd, but it wont write
[04:48] <Pip> thank you
[04:48] <orbin> lostinc: unless the app needs cutting-edge libraries, the ones it gets from apt should be sufficient to get a clean configure
[04:48] <Jemt> biopol: Hm, odd
[04:49] <orbin> Fetale: take the s off the end
[04:49] <biopol> i have ubuntu 5.10
[04:49] <Ropechoborra> Is there a problem with help.ubuntu.com ?? i cant open the web, someone else cant?
[04:49] <richee> HOw do I run a cron job everyday at midnight
[04:49] <richee> ?
[04:49] <Jemt> biopol: Stick with that. Ubuntu Dapper sucks
[04:49] <gnomefreak> bbs testing something
[04:49] <Fetale> a ha ha
[04:49] <lostinc> Ahh I see Gnomefreak. That is what I was wondering. So this build-dep will theoretically solve majority if not all of the dependency issues with exception of those that are truly updated?
[04:49] <Fetale> thanx
[04:49] <biopol> Jemt, isn't there a solution??
[04:49] <IRCMonkeyx> snoops: may i do it from terminal? i dont know by double clicking? i dont have unzipped program for ubuntu
[04:49] <Fetale> hmmm
[04:50] <IRCMonkeyx> void^: thanx for the link
[04:50] <Jemt> biopol: Hm, try restarting. Sometimes things just work after a restart - even though it should not be neccessary
[04:50] <Fetale> orbin: still no luck
[04:50] <finalbeta> !scanner
[04:50] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[04:50] <biopol> Jemt, i already did
[04:51] <orbin> Fetale: error?
[04:51] <dogen2> anybody here use tilda and notice that it seems to open up in random places instead of the top of the screen?
[04:51] <Fetale> orbin: E: Invalid operation build-essential
[04:51] <LjL> Fetale: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:52] <orbin> Fetale: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[04:52] <atrophic> I just installed ubuntu and it won't boot (dual boot system, ubuntu as first hard drive. I had to use GAG to even get back into windows.) I'm using a mix of SATA and IDE (Sata1 == ubuntu, Sata2 == existing xp install, ide1/2 == storage). How can I get grub to work like it should?
[04:52] <dogen2> i've tried setting the position for tilda in the preferences but it doesn't work
[04:52] <LjL> or aptitude, yeah
[04:52] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow here look at this http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/Skynet/Screenshot2.jpg
[04:52] <Fetale> oh, I was apt-get
[04:52] <orbin> Fetale: doesn't matter
[04:52] <orbin> Fetale: i'm guessing you forgot the 'install'
[04:52] <LjL> Fetale: apt-get works too, you just forgot the "install"
[04:52] <FlimFlamMan> gedit has a bug that won't allow it to save files on a sshfs-mounted filesystem.  scite crashes as soon as i try to use it, unless i run it from the cli instead of its menu option.  are there any syntax-highlighting editors for ubuntu that work?
[04:52] <jurgen> how to change dir in terminal?
[04:52] <LjL> orbin: :-)
[04:52] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: Yes
[04:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Shrink the middle value using the arrow
[04:53] <orbin> jurgen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:53] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow yes I know,but to "80"? that's gonna take ages
[04:53] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: 80,000
[04:54] <Fetale> orbin & LjL: that did it, thank you
[04:54] <orbin> yw
[04:54] <LjL> !tell fetale about aptitude
[04:54] <LjL> fetale: for the differences between the two
[04:54] <lostinc> I have been doing ebay lately is there a good inventory system out there for small business?
[04:54] <skybox> New Size MB 80 000 okay
[04:55] <Fetale> LjL: what are the differences btwn the two?
[04:55] <LjL> Fetale: what Ubotu said
[04:55] <atrophic> FlimFlamMan, Bluefish has syntax highlighting IIRC
[04:55] <LjL> Fetale: look at your private messages
[04:55] <Fetale> oh, thanks
[04:55] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow New size MB 80000 and Free space following MB 35773
[04:55] <skybox> is that right?
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[04:56] <skybox> ah splendid
[04:56] <skybox> and I should press "ok" now?
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> can you change the upper number to the bottom number?
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox:  or do you just want to shrink it then move it
[04:57] <Linuturk> Ok, my sound seems to be working now. I went into alsamixer and pumped up everything. I don't this the amp is working though. Shoud I try a bass intensive song to see?
[04:57] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow to be honest I really don't know why I'm shrinking it, the guide said I should create a new partition or do something else, move it?
[04:58] <orbin> skybox: you can't create a new one without free sapce.  you can't get free sapce until you resize
[04:59] <skybox> ah okay gotcha, and my next step would now be, to press "resize"?
[04:59] <Linuturk> video[ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R100 QD [Radeon 7200]  @ Intel Corporation 82850 850] 
[04:59] <Linuturk> that seems to be installed correctly
[04:59] <Jack_Sparrow> wife needs me...
[04:59] <lostinc> Anyone tell me how to stop seeing the entrance and exits of everyone when I use gaim for IRC?
[04:59] <Linuturk> but how do I tell if the correct drivers are installed
[04:59] <Linuturk> ?
[04:59] <orbin> skybox: yes :P
[05:00] <skybox> Okay I'll let the process start
[05:01] <lostinc> Gnomefreak: that build-dep option in apt-get worked like a charm! I will have to remember that one for the future.
[05:01] <orbin> Linuturk: your video drivers?  if you can see stuff? :P
[05:01] <orbin> Linuturk: depends on if you want 3d rendering
[05:01] <vikash> hi
[05:01] <Linuturk> orbin, well, sure, i can see stuff. That doesn't mean the best drivers are installed
[05:01] <Linuturk> orbin, yes, 3d
[05:01] <Ropechoborra> How do i set KTorrent to launch at startup ?
[05:01] <Linuturk> video[ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R100 QD [Radeon 7200]  @ Intel Corporation 82850 850] 
[05:02] <orbin> Linuturk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:02] <Wddit> how do i turn off my monitor?
[05:02] <Ng> the button on the front? ;)
[05:02] <skybox> orbin, 1 operation pending, how long will this take, and will I see a confirmation when it's done?
[05:02] <Wddit> no
[05:02] <Ropechoborra> xD
[05:02] <Wddit> from the computer
[05:02] <Ng> Wddit: xset dpms force off
[05:03] <lostinc> Gnomefreak: I also have to build XMame from source. It is of course not listed in the APT via synaptic will the build-dep option work at all?
[05:03] <Ng> Wddit: that may work, or you might be able to force it to standby/suspend, but it depends on the monitor
[05:03] <Wddit> Ng
[05:03] <orbin> skybox: not that long. you should be returned to the partitioner again afterwards methinks.  is this the gparted livecd?
[05:03] <Ropechoborra> He forgot to ask how to turn it on again xD
[05:03] <Wddit> Ng: you're great!
[05:03] <Ng> I try ;)
[05:03] <LjL> lostinc: hm? xmame *is* packaged...
[05:03] <skybox> after I pressed resize, I went back to the main screen of gparted, further down it says 1 operation pending
[05:03] <Ropechoborra> How do i set a program to launch at startup ?
[05:03] <skybox> yes gparted livecd
[05:03] <Wddit> Ng: now, how do i set it to turn off after 5 minutes im away
[05:04] <FlimFlamMan> atrophic:  my recollection of bluefish is that it was buggy - i lost data with it once.  but that was months ago - maybe it's gotten better...
[05:04] <Ng> Wddit: System->Preferences->Power Management, have it put your display to sleep after 5 minutes
[05:04] <orbin> skybox: oh. i never used it before, but sounds like you have to click on apply or something to go ahead w/ the resize
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[05:04] <Ropechoborra> anosa, ty
[05:04] <skybox> orbni yeah thats what I did
[05:04] <skybox> look here
[05:05] <Linuturk> orbin, the wiki says I may already have accelerated 3d with the open drivers. How would I test this?
[05:05] <Wddit> Ng: that's the problem. i cant find the power management
[05:05] <orbin> Linuturk: glxinfo | grep rendering
[05:06] <skybox> orbin, look here, http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/Skynet/Screenshot-12.jpg
[05:06] <Linuturk> direct rendering: Yes
[05:06] <Linuturk> so I guess it's already setup
[05:06] <orbin> Linuturk: yep
[05:06] <Ng> Wddit: are you not running dapper and gnome?
[05:06] <Linuturk> orbin, would the other drivers benefit me in any way?
[05:06] <biopol> any idea for a gnome program to burn cd?
[05:06] <Wddit> xfce4 is running
[05:07] <Wddit> :-$
[05:07] <orbin> Linuturk: try this: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf | tail -1
[05:07] <Innu> hello, how can i remove icon labels from desktop icons in ubuntu?
[05:07] <orbin> biopol: gnomebaker's ok
[05:07] <Linuturk> what am I looking for orbin?
[05:08] <orbin> Linuturk: it shuld spit out something
[05:08] <skybox> orbin did you see the screenshot?
[05:08] <Linuturk> several things, one says ATI
[05:08] <biopol> orbin: ok thnx... why nautilus has those problems burning?
[05:08] <skybox> orbin nvm
[05:08] <orbin> skybox: clicked on apply?
[05:09] <skybox> yeah :P
[05:09] <Wddit> Ng: ?
[05:09] <orbin> sorry for late reply :-/
[05:09] <skybox> it's running now, it's this damn heat, casuing my brain to act sloow
[05:09] <orbin> Linuturk: it should only spit out one line if i had it right:-/
[05:09] <Linuturk> well, they all start with Driver
[05:09] <Ng> Wddit: ah, no idea how xfce does power management
[05:09] <orbin> skybox: better to be cautious
[05:10] <Jemt> Ng: It's not the window manager that handles power management.
[05:10] <Linuturk> then you have kbd; mouse; wacom(3 times); and ati
[05:10] <lostinc> When using gksu is there a way to input your password so that it does not ask for it?
[05:10] <SimzI> how do I mount my servers  mp3 folder?
[05:10] <Wddit> jemt: i know. i didnt say it does.
[05:10] <Ng> Jemt: xfce isn't a window manager, it's a desktop environment
[05:10] <SimzI> what's the mount command
[05:10] <Ng> Jemt: xfwm is the window manager xfce uses
[05:10] <orbin> skybox: once it's done, reboot off the xp cd and you should see some free space to install to.  the xp install will probably wipe out grub, so look here later: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:10] <bur[n] er_> xfce is wonderful :)
[05:10] <Boglizk> indeed
[05:11] <bur[n] er_> SimzI: man smbmount
[05:11] <Ng> Jemt: but each of the desktops provide their own tools for controlling things like powermanagement. in gnome it's gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-preferences
[05:11] <SimzI> bur[n] er_, I get, No manual entry for smb://rickserver/Server-D/%5BMP3%5D
[05:12] <jurgen> !counter strike in linux
[05:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about counter strike in linux
[05:12] <SimzI> !man smbmount
[05:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about man smbmount
[05:12] <Wddit> i do: www.linux-gamers.org
[05:12] <SimzI> bur[n] er_, what do I get this message?
[05:13] <Linuturk> orbin, there are several listed there, one says Drivers "ati"
[05:13] <Raito> How would I make a scroll wheel on my touchpad? Like, make the right part a scroll wheel so I can use to to scroll. I know it happened before somehow, but I forgot what I did.
[05:13] <orbin> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:13] <bur[n] er_> SimzI: just do "man smbmount" not that other smb:// crap...  it'll tell you to run "mount -t smbfs blahblahblah"
[05:13] <Ng> jurgen: cedega can run counterstrike and cs:source. regular wine may be able to if you don't want to pay, or cedega should provide a CVS version you can compile yourself
[05:13] <Linuturk> orbin, the others say Drivers, followed by kdb mouse and wacom
[05:13] <orbin> Linuturk: well, you're currently using the ati driver.  you may want to try the fglrx one which might give you a boost in performance
[05:13] <SimzI> bur[n] er_,
[05:13] <SimzI> rick@ubuntu:~$ man smbmount
[05:13] <SimzI> No manual entry for smbmount
[05:14] <orbin> Linuturk: see here if you want to try it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:14] <Linuturk> ok, thanks
[05:14] <jurgen> Ng: : i have tried to fiks a cedega cvs.but i can get it to work..
[05:14] <jurgen> me noob
[05:15] <username> could anyone do a favor for me
[05:15] <bur[n] er_> hrm... sorry SimzI, that used to work... man mount ;)
[05:15] <Paradoxx> username, no
[05:15] <Ng> username: ask and you'll find out :)
[05:15] <bur[n] er_> SimzI: if you use an app that uses gnome-vfs, you don't need to mount... something like totem
[05:15] <SimzI> I know but I want to use xmms bur[n] er_ :)
[05:16] <username> Ng, can you nmap -sS -P0 -p 21 myserver, I need to test my iptables
[05:16] <bur[n] er_> heh, in that case, it's mount -t smbfs //computer/share/ ~/placetomountit
[05:16] <bur[n] er_> xmms...  that's so 90s ;)
[05:16] <Wddit> how do i watch wmv format in ubuntu?
[05:17] <Ng> !restrictedformats > Wddit
[05:17] <username> can you
[05:17] <Wddit> tnaks ng
[05:17] <Ng> username: you just want to know if port 21 is open?
[05:18] <monomaniacpat> has anyone here used an analogue joystick before??
[05:19] <usama> hi all
[05:19] <atrophic> If you're good at grub can you help me resolve this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1224589#post1224589
[05:19] <username> Ng, no
[05:19] <Ng> username: https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 can scan your IP for you
[05:19] <skybox> orbin, it's still running, here's what console log showed me resize2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[05:19] <skybox> resize2fs: bad filesystem size - 79,992M
[05:20] <usama> i was trying to install ubuntu but during paritioning it gives error: "critical error during ped_disk_new!" can anyone help me?
[05:20] <SimzI> hmm, bur[n] er_ it doesn't seem to be working
[05:20] <SimzI> when I do sudo mount -t smbfs //rickserver/Server-D/mp3
[05:20] <SimzI>  - It brings upa list of commands for mount
[05:20] <username> Ng, /quit
[05:21] <dockane> how do i find out wich moduel versions come with linux-restricted-modules?
[05:21] <Shigun> Can I possibly get some assistance with this issue here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1224599#post1224599
[05:22] <biopol> damn! gnomebaker now freezes
[05:22] <root__> #ubuntu-es
[05:24] <dmitr1> i updated my kernel to 2.6.15-25-686 and now truecrypt does not work, nor do any workaround on their forums and ubunutu forums. does anyone know the answer?
[05:24] <SimzI> bur[n] er_, what does the "dev" mean in the mount -t command
[05:25] <jacksonj04> hi - I'm looking for the Bootloader Administration Tool mentioned in the documentation but I don't have such an option available in the Applications menu (Should be under System Tools - Boot). Running 6.06 on latest patches (Fresh install).
[05:25] <Rubin> SimzI, device
[05:25] <SimzI> What do I put there?
[05:26] <Rubin> Jack_Sparrow, i dont know about in the menu, but at the commandline you would edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:26] <atrophic> jacksonj04, if you don't mind config files, the bootloader's files are in /boot/grub/ - menu.lst is the main config, device.map shows your hard drive mapping
[05:27] <bur[n] er_> SimzI: you don't need a dev.. you use the \\computername\directory instead
[05:27] <jacksonj04> thanks
[05:27] <usama> can anyone guide me about ped_disk_new error?
[05:28] <atrophic> usama, sorry, no idea. Try checking the md5 of the image to make sure your cd is okay and try installing again.
[05:28] <SimzI> root@ubuntu:~# mount -t smbfs music //rickserver/Server-D/mp3
[05:28] <SimzI> mount: mount point //rickserver/Server-D/mp3 does not exist
[05:28] <SimzI> bur[n] er_, ^^
[05:29] <bur[n] er_> you have it backwards
[05:29] <bur[n] er_> i gotta go though
[05:29] <SimzI> ?
[05:29] <Kezzer> Is there any Windows apps which will hide any files/folders prefixed with a dot?
[05:29] <bur[n] er_> good luck... first do the //blah/blah/blah then the mount point
[05:29] <Kezzer> 'cause I share my Ubuntu partition with Windows using an ext3 reader
[05:29] <loststar4545> i want know where i can find the setting for gnomes nautilus mp3 preview i want the  preview to last even after i move my mouse off the song
[05:30] <gdb> Kezzer: Yes, it's called Explorer, not to be confused with Internet Explorer.
[05:31] <gdb> Kezzer: At least it treats them as "Hidden and System Files" when browsing SMB shares. :-)
[05:32] <biopol> does anyone use gnomebaker?
[05:32] <Rubin> gdb, i think its samba that does that
[05:32] <atrophic> gdb, he's not browsing SMB shares, he's accessing the file system directly
[05:32] <gdb> loststar4545: It's in Edit -> Preferences -> Preview, but Nautilus can't be configured to do that (at least not in that way).  There may be something buried in gconf-editor that you can tweak but I would tend to doubt it.
[05:32] <gdb> atrophic: Yes, hence my clarificiation.
[05:32] <wildman> biopol: k3b, even if 'plain' ubuntu (gnome)
[05:32] <usama> can anyone tell me that from where i can download automatix (for dapper)?
[05:32] <gdb> Rubin: That's what I'm gathering, yes.
[05:32] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow/orbin you guys still here? I'm confused, it still says unused mb 51.179 and I can only see dev/hda1,hda2 and hda5, is this normal?
[05:32] <Kezzer> gdb, it doesn't hide mine o_O
[05:32] <gdb> Kezzer: :-(
[05:33] <Kezzer> strange
[05:33] <atrophic> usama, getautomatix.com
[05:33] <gdb> Kezzer: How does that ext3 driver work for you anyway?  Fast?  Easy?  No data corruption?
[05:33] <Kezzer> It's fast, but it's hard to find on the Internet
[05:33] <usama> atrophic: hmm, lemme check
[05:33] <gdb> usama: I'd recommend http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ over automatix.
[05:33] <Kezzer> It has served me well so far
[05:33] <gdb> !automatix
[05:33] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[05:33] <Ng> usama: as a general rule you'll be better off using the help.ubuntu.com docs than trusting an unofficial tool to do all kinds of strange things
[05:33] <Kezzer> I just have my Windows and Ubuntu install sharing the same partition for my data
[05:33] <psx1337> Any chance of a PPC version of ndiswrapper being developed?
[05:33] <biopol> wildman, k3b??
[05:33] <Kezzer> it's easier for me then
[05:33] <gdb> The "use at your own risk" is due to "has screwed a lot of people".
[05:34] <wildman> biopol: for CD/DVD recording
[05:34] <compengi> how to install Java Runtime Environment?
[05:34] <skybox> lack of good burner applications is why i'm gonna dual boot
[05:34] <gdb> Kezzer: Oh yeah, can keep your music, movies, documents accessible to both, while keeping them on an ext3 partition (for security!)
[05:34] <skybox> I hate it ,but I have no other choice
[05:34] <Kezzer> gdb, exactly =)
[05:34] <biopol> wildman, but I need KDE
[05:34] <Kezzer> I hate having to transfer files back and forth
[05:34] <Ng> !java > compengi
[05:34] <wildman> not all of it biopol....
[05:34] <atrophic> sadly the windows drivers don't retain the security on the ext3 partitions
[05:34] <Kezzer> not usually no
[05:35] <Kezzer> mine doesn't
[05:35] <Kezzer> but I haven't had any corruption and the speed is generally good
[05:35] <atrophic> mine either, but I'm not really complaining, it's better than fat32
[05:35] <Kezzer> indubitably
[05:35] <Rubin> i don't think its risky, because ext3 is open, theres no reverse engineering necessary
[05:35] <gdb> Rubin: That's a pretty reasonable position to take, I think.
[05:35] <atrophic> yeah, and it's even more simple as it actually treats the drive as ext2
[05:36] <Linuturk> orbin, the fglrx driver screwed up my xserver
[05:36] <Rubin> atrophic, the only pain about that is if you write to it in windows you have to do a check next boot
[05:37] <Linuturk> orbin, i had to revert back to the ati driver
[05:37] <Rubin> Kezzer, so you actually installed windows on ext3 via that driver?
[05:37] <atrophic> I don't think that works, actually
[05:38] <atrophic> at least the one I'm using said it wouldn't
[05:38] <Rubin> yeah, i was thinking the same thing
[05:38] <Rubin> maybe he has a better one?
[05:38] <gdb> He has an ext3 partition mounted under Windows.
[05:38] <gdb> Kezzer: Does that show up as a new drive letter?
[05:39] <compengi> Ng, isn't there a command in terminal for installing java?
[05:39] <Rubin> oh, for his data.
[05:39] <atrophic> alright, I'm trying to install ubuntu to a dual boot system (existing xp on seperate sata drive) and no matter what I do I can't get the ubuntu install to boot. Any ideas?
[05:39] <atrophic> gdb, there's a control panel utility to set the drive letters for any ext2/3 drives
[05:39] <atrophic> they do not show up automatically though, you have to specify them there
[05:40] <atrophic> it retains the configuration on reboot though
[05:40] <Ng> compengi: did you see what ubotu messaged  you?
[05:40] <Kezzer> gdb, yup
[05:40] <compengi> yes
[05:40] <Ng> compengi: install sun-java5-jre from multiverse
[05:40] <Ng> compengi: that can be done in a terminal
[05:40] <gdb> compengi: Enable the Universe respositority and then run "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install sun-java5\*" (you can use apt-cache search sun-java5 to get a more complete listing of what is available).  If you want the J2SE documentation, you'll need to download the zip file from Sun first (for docs) and put it in /tmp prior to installing the sun-java5-doc package.
[05:40] <atrophic> Kezzer, what ext3 driver are you using?
[05:40] <gdb> yeah, Multiverse, sorry
[05:41] <FlimFlamMan> atrophic:  bluefish is looking pretty nice these days
[05:41] <gdb> And dpkg will tell you about the need for that zip file (and where to get it) if you try to install sun-java5-doc without it being present.
[05:41] <Kezzer> Ext2 IFS
[05:41] <monomaniacpat> Is anyone here a member of any of the #xbox channels?
[05:42] <atrophic> FlimFlamMan, yeah, I've liked it in my use so far. It works for what you wanted then?
[05:42] <FlimFlamMan> so far, yes, and it will be even better once i had syntax highlighting for cheetah and myghty templates
[05:43] <compengi> Ng, whats a blackdown package?
[05:43] <FlimFlamMan> s/had/add
[05:43] <priich> I installed the terminus package from repository. Somehow the fonts didn't register. Does anyone have nice pointer to a good explanation on how to add them? I'm guessing some config file alternativly in xrdb ?
[05:44] <revartj> hello
[05:44] <Ng> compengi: a third party java environment, don't use it, use the sun one
[05:45] <Libra102> hello
[05:45] <ajay_> hi
[05:45] <Scozzer> hello all
[05:45] <scifi> hi guys, im getting some packages that have failed to be fetched. including anguage-pack-en_6.06+20060705_all.deb and app-install-data-commercial_4_all.deb. anyone else having the same problem ?
[05:45] <Libra102> how can I do it .. made encoding mp4 ?
[05:46] <Libra102> avi -> mp4 ?
[05:46] <SimzI> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210821
[05:46] <Ng> Libra102: it's a bit complex, but you can recompile ffmpeg and do it with that. google may be able to turn something up
[05:46] <Libra102> hum.. recompile ffmpeg?
[05:46] <Libra102> okay..
[05:47] <skybox> Orbin/Jack_Sparrow you guys here?
[05:47] <Scozzer> i can't get any response from archive.ubuntu.com before but it's working again now
[05:47] <lostinc> is there a version of KDEs icon dock superkerumba for gnome?
[05:48] <revartj> somebody know because nfs i don't leave copy data of other HD in the exports directoris, when it leave write and read these directory????
[05:49] <Cabbage> Hi all. Running on Ubuntu as we speak. Have a quick question about accessing my files on my windows partitions. I have all my mp3s stored in ntfs =/.
[05:49] <matthew_w> How much space does a clean Dapper install usually take up?
[05:49] <compengi> Ng, i searched for j2re1.4 and i got 2 packages i need this java as a mozilla firefox plugin when i marked it to install it says i need to mark also the blackdown one so i did is it okay?
[05:50] <Ng> compengi: install sun-java5-jre from multiverse
[05:50] <Ng> !repos > compengi
[05:50] <dan__> where can i find some tools for ubuntu server ?
[05:50] <atrophic> Cabbage, ubuntu can read the files, but won't have write access to ntfs. If you want safe write access (at the cost of speed) check out captive-ntfs, it wraps the windows ntfs driver for native-like read/write access.
[05:50] <Ng> compengi: actually, which version of ubuntu are you running?
[05:50] <atrophic> dan__, what tools specifically?
[05:51] <priich> Cabbage, do you need to write to the NTFS system aswell or is readonly enough. Are the NTFS partiotion on a separate computer/harddrive or are you dualbooting ?
[05:51] <compengi> Ng,  the dapper one
[05:51] <Cabbage> That's the thing, atrophic. When I try to mount (which I guess means access) the drives, it is unable to mount them
[05:51] <dan__> for router .. traffic metter
[05:51] <dan__> traffic limiter
[05:51] <matthew_w> I installed dapped and now, for some reason, 7GB is gone... is this normal?
[05:51] <atrophic> Cabbage, what's the error?
[05:51] <Cabbage> priich: For the time being, I just need to read.
[05:51] <richee> Can USB ports in laptops be repaired I have a bad one ?
[05:51] <ICXCNIKA> I just downloaded the ubuntu ISO and burned it with cdburnerXP. But when I try to boot the cd from the disc, I get some Caldera DR-DOS error. What did I do wrong?
[05:51] <Cabbage> atrophic: One sec, I'll copy it word for word.
[05:51] <compengi> Ng, so should i stop the installation now?
[05:51] <Cabbage> error: device /dev/sda1 is not removable
[05:51] <Cabbage> error: could not execute pmount
[05:51] <Ng> compengi: ok, then you need to enable the multiverse repository and install the package name I mentioned
[05:52] <Ng> compengi: up to you really, but the sun JRE is better than blackdown
[05:52] <atrophic> ICXCNIKA, run an md5 check against the iso and try burning again. If your burning software can check the integrity of the disk have it do that too.
[05:52] <tsume> eww, java
[05:52] <revartj> help please?????
[05:52] <dumezil> whats that command that shows you all the logins and logoffs and reboots?
[05:52] <tsume> never install it on my linux workstations, nobody needs it thankfully
[05:52] <atrophic> Cabbage, are you on the livecd or is it installed?
[05:52] <Cabbage> installed, sir.
[05:52] <tsume> dumezil: last
[05:52] <dumezil> yes thanks
[05:53] <sysrpl> is there a linux equivalent of windows movie maker? if so what is the name?
[05:53] <ryanpg> Hi... my harddrive failed the automatic check at boot. Now I'm asked to provide the root password for maintenance... of course the root account is disabled by default in dapper so there IS no root password... my only option is to reboot. Suggestions?
[05:53] <atrophic> When you figure out the problem, please let me know the solution ;) I'm having the same issue with my desktop, but for all partitions (including ext3 partitions).
[05:53] <tsume> sysrpl: there is a decent one.. forgot. Check freshmeat, I know its listed on there
[05:54] <Ropechoborra> ryanpg already tryed with your user pass ? =/
[05:54] <atrophic> Cabbage, but that's only on the livecd, I can't actually get it installed on the desktop yet. If you search the forums there is a script on there that automatically mounts all your drives. I saw it earlier today, but have not used it. Response to the thread was good though.
[05:54] <tsume> sysrpl: its something really huge though, and its not easy as WMM to use
[05:54] <revartj> somebody know why nfs doesn't allow me to copy files from other HD to the exported directories, while it allow me to write/read in that directory?
[05:54] <ryanpg> I've tried editing grub to do boot "single" but the harddisk check still happens, still fails, and still only gives the option to reboot
[05:54] <W3bbo> hi, does anyone know where PHP is installed to the filesystem and how to get Search to work with the filesystem too?
[05:54] <ryanpg> Ropechoborra, there's no username option... I'm prompted to enter a non-existent root password
[05:54] <priich> cabbage: what exactly is your mount command ?
[05:54] <skybox> Orbin/Jack_Sparrow you guys here?
[05:54] <Scozzer> Cabbage, you're not trying to mount as a user are you? Only root can mount non-removable media iirc
[05:54] <Cabbage> atrophic: Ah ok. I really need to learn how to read forums.
[05:54] <Ropechoborra> ryanpg is no way entering text mode?
[05:55] <Cabbage> Scozzer, Yes, I'm acting as a user. I'm a little wary of being root for the time being, as linux is stille xtremely new to me.
[05:55] <compengi> Ng, can you tell me how to enable the multiverse repostory?
[05:55] <compengi> repository*
[05:55] <LjL> !multiverse
[05:55] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:55] <Cabbage> priich:  No commands. I'm trying to access it via gui.
[05:55] <atrophic> Cabbage, prefix the command with 'sudo '
[05:56] <Ropechoborra> ubotu tell Ropechoborra about webcam
[05:56] <Cabbage> atrophic, I picked that much up =) But these errors appear when I try to access the drives from the file browser onm the gui.
[05:56] <atrophic> Cabbage, err... then try using the command. Again the forums should have some help with the command.
[05:56] <Bassetts> how can i stop vmware services?
[05:56] <Cabbage> atrophic, thanks again.
[05:56] <Zdra> Bassetts: sudo /etc/init.d/vmware stop
[05:57] <atrophic> and as far as being wary of root, that's a good thing. Sudo is much more safe though, and you'll end up using it quite a bit if you're anything like me so don't be so wary of that.
[05:57] <thaddey> anyone know how to install the QT mysql server qmysql3 ?
[05:57] <monomaniacpat> How can I edit a driver that's already installed?
[05:57] <Bassetts> Zdra: thanks
[05:57] <monomaniacpat> hello dr_willis?
[05:58] <monomaniacpat> *!
[05:58] <Zdra> monomaniacpat: what do you mean by "editing a driver ?"
[05:58] <dr_willis> moo?
[05:58] <monomaniacpat> Zdra: I want to change my analogue triggers to digital buttons
[06:00] <MadScientist> has anyone had issues with xine using rediculous amounts of cpu whereas all other players are working as expected
[06:00] <SlyGuy_> ridiculous
[06:00] <compengi> how to enable the multiverse repository to install sun-java5-jre?
[06:00] <javi> anybody speak spanish?
[06:00] <MadScientist> SlyGuy_, thanks i never knew you were a dictionary
[06:00] <dr_willis> !easy-source
[06:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about easy-source
[06:00] <dr_willis> !easysource
[06:00] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:00] <SlyGuy_> no habla esanol
[06:01] <SlyGuy_> espanol
[06:01] <mikeee> ciao a tutti
[06:01] <monomaniacpat> Zdra: do you know if this is possible?
[06:01] <snoops> I'm wondering about setting ubuntu up on my second box, mainly as a box that's used for running a irc client, jabber server, a torrent, asterisk and a few other bits and bobs.. What I'm wondering is in particular to the irc client.. can I run it on that box (with gui) and open that application on my local machine (which is also dapper), so I can see what was on irc for the last few weeks of connectivity etc in the window.. I guess I ask
[06:01] <vikash> hi friends
[06:01] <mikeee> hi
[06:01] <vikash> i m using g++ compiler
[06:01] <Zdra> monomaniacpat: I don't understand what you exactly want ... :p
[06:01] <mikeee> there are a italian boy in this channel?
[06:02] <vikash> i m using command g++ prog1.cpp -o prog1
[06:02] <Shizboom> ermmm can i install an rpm or bin file?
[06:02] <Cabbage> atrophic, just so we're on the same page, here's the post I'm looking at right now: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&highlight=mounting+ntfs  || When I try to "Add fuse to list of modules to install", I get sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jul  7 15:28:48 2006
[06:02] <Cabbage> 
[06:02] <MadScientist> snoops, vnc? :)
[06:02] <Shizboom> or do i need deb files to install?
[06:02] <vikash> i get executable file prog1
[06:02] <vikash> how can i see output
[06:02] <dr_willis> snoops,  i do that all the time.  you can run a X progrma on one box and see its output on a different one. can even do ut with windows
[06:02] <dr_willis> snoops,  but vnc is also a handy tool to learn about
[06:02] <monomaniacpat> Zdra: I want to edit the driver of my Xbox pad, so that the computer recognises them as buttons instead of analogue axes, so that I can use them in half-life
[06:02] <POVaddct> snoops: why not run a non-graphical irc client like irssi in screen?
[06:02] <vikash> g++ compiler help
[06:03] <vikash> helpplz
[06:03] <vikash> how should i rum output files of cpp
[06:03] <tsume> vikash: this isn't the channel for compiler help ;)
[06:03] <vikash> i m using ubuntu man
[06:03] <snoops> dr_willis oh I'm very familar with vnc and rdc.. I want to get away from using that :)
[06:03] <vikash> i installed things by apt get
[06:03] <Zdra> monomaniacpat: seems difficult... I don't know how to do that...
[06:03] <mikeee> c' un figghiu di mammalucca italiano?
[06:04] <vikash> do u know tsume
[06:04] <mikeee> Zdra ciao
[06:04] <Zdra> monomaniacpat: I think your only hope is google
[06:04] <POVaddct> snoops: if you run irssi in screen, you can use it from local and from remote
[06:04] <snoops> POVaddct yeah but I want a gui :)
[06:04] <mikeee> monomaniacpat ciao nn sei italiano/a
[06:04] <timalot> vikash, what files ...
[06:04] <mikeee> ???????????????????????
[06:04] <vikash> prog1
[06:04] <jaxvi_> hello
[06:04] <vikash> output of a cpp program
[06:04] <tsume> mikeee: #ubuntu-it
[06:04] <jaxvi_> is it possible to reset the attribs of /sbin to original ones?
[06:04] <mikeee> tnx
[06:05] <vikash> timalote
[06:05] <POVaddct> snoops: irc a text medium anyway. why bother using a gui for that? :)
[06:05] <timalot> vikash, if its an exe then just ./prog1
[06:05] <mikeee> tsume you are a big user
[06:05] <vikash> how to rum an executable file in   terminal
[06:05] <tsume> mikeee: yes
[06:05] <snoops> because changing rooms via command line is a pain POVaddct
[06:05] <Cabbage> Alrighty. If anyone's still out there: just so we're on the same page, here's the post I'm looking at right now: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&highlight=mounting+ntfs  || When I try to "Add fuse to list of modules to install", I get sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jul  7 15:28:48 2006
[06:05] <snoops> and shortcuts..
[06:05] <Cabbage> I have no idea what I'm doing wrong.
[06:05] <monomaniacpat> mikeee: I don't speak italian, I'm afraid :'( #linux-xbox???
[06:05] <mikeee> tsume you are the flame of my life
[06:05] <snoops> anyway, that's just down to personal preference
[06:06] <tsume> vikash: please pick up a book on linux and read it :)
[06:06] <TrioTorus> using dns, the command 'dnsdomainname' returns 'localhost'. How does dnsdomainname retrieve it's info?
[06:06] <tsume> vikash: better pick up a book on unix, since linux publishers are morons
[06:06] <TrioTorus> dns is working as expected with dig
[06:06] <frogzoo> jaxvi_: 755 mostly
[06:06] <snoops> dr_willis so for instance.. I can run say xchat on the 'server box' with the gui on the 'server box'.. then say connect to the server box from my main pc and ask that it show me the window from the server box (not using rdc or vnc)?
[06:06] <monomaniacpat> Zdra: I have found a website with code for a driver, but they have a c (is that unconfigured?) and mine is a .ko file
[06:07] <tsume> monomaniacpat: .c is a source file
[06:07] <tsume> monomaniacpat: you have to compile it
[06:07] <jaxvi_> frogzoo, okas but my /sbin now is not a directory !!
[06:07] <jaxvi_> :s
[06:07] <monomaniacpat> tsume: I thought it might be... can you edit a source file before compiling it?
[06:08] <Zdra> Cabbage: at install time, with ubiquity, did you selected your ntfs partition to mount it somewhere ? if so it should just work... if not just add a line to you /etc/fstab like that : "/dev/hda4       /media/test     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0    1"
[06:08] <dr_willis> snoops,  you can be on local box.. ssh to remote.. run an app.. it shows up on local box.
[06:08] <tsume> monomaniacpat: yeah, thats why its source code :P
[06:08] <frogzoo> jaxvi_: that doesn't sound so good...
[06:08] <snoops> dr_willis what if it's already running?
[06:08] <dr_willis> snoops,  common task  :)
[06:08] <paulovitorbal> hii
[06:08] <dr_willis> snoops,  then it runs another copy. if you want a persistant/shared desktop - thats what vnc is for
[06:08] <doughboy> Why is it that ubuntu does not offer upgrades to applications such as openoffice ? Just curious
[06:08] <jaxvi_> yeah, i do know :S:S
[06:08] <monomaniacpat> tsume: so if I could find an uncomiled one I could edit it and install?
[06:08] <skybox> Orbin/Jack_Sparrow you guys here?
[06:08] <MadScientist> snoops, the answer's vnc :)
[06:08] <paulovitorbal> how i can install gtk?
[06:08] <Cabbage> Zdra: Unfortunately I have no idea what you're talking about, heh. I installed from the live cd if that's any help.
[06:09] <snoops> dr_willis ah.. you see that's what I'm after.. and vnc is ridiculously slow compared to rdp
[06:09] <tsume> doughboy: its called a release pattern
[06:09] <tsume> doughboy: once its released, they only offer security and bugfixes
[06:09] <dr_willis> snoops,  never notced. vnc works great for my home lan.
[06:09] <dr_willis> snoops,  for linux to linux - i hear freenx is better then vnc.
[06:09] <tsume> monomaniacpat: yeah, you can edit the source, compile it, and install it
[06:09] <Zdra> monomaniacpat: you have to compile the driver... if you haven't any experience with compilation just forget about that ! it's too complicated
[06:09] <dr_willis> snoops,  but it depends on your exact needs. :)
[06:09] <paulovitorbal> how can i install gtk?
[06:10] <tsume> snoops: what are you trying to do?
[06:10] <snoops> dr_willis, yeah.. well that sucks.. I was hoping I could have the same window on the local machine as the remote machine
[06:10] <dr_willis> snoops,  for example i dont 'share the visible desktop' with the gnome/vnc stuff. i run a seperate vnc desktop.
[06:10] <tsume> snoops: you know you can run applicatoins remotely from linux to linux with ssh -X(redirect X to local machine)
[06:10] <gnomefreak> paulovitorbal: synaptic
[06:10] <Cabbage> Zdra: Hmm.. it seems I can't do much without having that "timestamp too far ahead in the future"... any insight on that?
[06:10] <snoops> tsume yeah.. the thing being I want to show an application that's already open on the remote machine on the local machine
[06:11] <gnomefreak> ppauif you have gnome installed you are using gtk
[06:11] <dr_willis> i dont want the apps seen on the remote box. :P or if i do - i run the vncclient  when i am at that machine.
[06:11] <snoops> open from the remote machine*
[06:11] <dr_willis> im not sure how to 'move' a app from one machine to another that way.
[06:11] <tsume> snoops: oh :( well theres no other way unless you use a paid solution ;)
[06:11] <doughboy> Well I like to keep my applications that I use extensively up to date especially if the application that an update is provided adds new or improved functionality
[06:11] <Zdra> Cabbage: you changed your clock while using sudo ? :s
[06:11] <Cabbage> Zdra: =/ Yes I did.
[06:11] <Zdra> Cabbage: bad idea...
[06:12] <gnomefreak> ummmmmmmm it asks you for suso password when you try to change it
[06:12] <tsume> you can't move a gui once its connected to the X server
[06:12] <Cabbage> Zdra: Well crap.
[06:12] <snoops> I'm almost wanting to clone or ghost it though tsume
[06:12] <tsume> GUIs are just clients, and X11 is the server. like an irc client to a irc server
[06:12] <Cabbage> Zdra is there anyway to correct the error.
[06:12] <dr_willis> tsume,  i was thinking id seen a trick todo that once. or some app.. but cant recall where. :)
[06:13] <tsume> dr_willis: you can build an application to be networkable, and have it shutdown the GUI part, to open it on another server, or use another client to show the application
[06:13] <snoops> k, so it's application dependant?
[06:13] <Zdra> Cabbage: don't know... set your clock back to previous hour should solve the problem... I had this problem once but I don't remember how I fixed it
[06:13] <tsume> dr_willis: by default the app looks at your current X session(usually :0) environment var
[06:13] <snoops> a service - gui architecture
[06:13] <dr_willis> tsume,  yea - i was thinking this was some sort of app that controlled the other apps and allowed that.  Must of been on freshmeat.
[06:13] <MadScientist> snoops, you could always try FreeNX
[06:14] <Cabbage> Zdra: Hehe, alright.  I will do this. Thanks for the help.
[06:14] <dr_willis> a subserver? heh..
[06:14] <snoops> yeah I think I will MadScientist
[06:14] <tsume> I guess if someone set it to a remote machine 192.168.0.5:0, they could have the GUI code restart and have it reopen somewhere else
[06:14] <zambaboo> hi guys
[06:14] <Tommy2k4> can i get the latest opera weeklies (one was just released today) using apt-get?
[06:14] <MadScientist> snoops, i use it to connect to my workstation at work its superb
[06:14] <dr_willis> I dont see the problem with using a vncdesktpp.  if ya want to see the apps on the remote box. you start a vncclient on that box.
[06:14] <zambaboo> are there any tools that handle raid configuration other than mdadm?
[06:14] <dr_willis> Tommy2k4,  dont think so.
[06:15] <tsume> dr_willis: well, I guess if someone built a type of proxy application for the client/server X architecture it would work too
[06:15] <dr_willis> Tommy2k4,  unless theres some special repo  someone has set up.
[06:15] <Cabbage> Zdra: Hah, that did it.
[06:15] <dr_willis> tsume,  sounds like a job for!! someone other then me. :) i cant code wiorth a $**@
[06:15] <tsume> dr_willis: hehe :)
[06:16] <snoops> at the mo I just run a windows server, and rdc into it from my linux box, for things like irc, torrents, batch downloads/uploads, and a few services.. I'm wanting to switch that server to linux, and not have to use rdc.. and since I had done tiny bit of reading on x's transparency I was just hoping it worked the way I wanted
[06:16] <jaek> uh, gnome-window-decorator doesnt exist anymore after updating... what is the window manager called?
[06:16] <anto9us> tsume, ssh -X -C <ip or address> then run vncviewer works
[06:16] <Zdra> Cabbage: for your ntfs problem I have a solution... simply go to the disk system tool
[06:16] <Cabbage> Zdra: I'm assuming you mean file browser.
[06:17] <tsume> anto9us: yeah, we know about that
[06:17] <gdb> snoops: Sure, ssh -X into the machine and then just run your graphical commands or use normal CLI utilities.  Personally, I'm a fan of FreeNX.
[06:17] <sg1_> hello do you know how to ssh or ssl from a window/unix box to a unix box over the internet, ive used remote desktop feature in ubuntu and vncviewer built into ubuntu works np, but ofr over the internet would like to enable ssl-ssh anyidea? ive installed opeh ssh on unix machine and can connect to it via putty but obviously thats Command line?
[06:17] <anto9us> tsume, what do you mean by proxy?
[06:17] <tsume> anto9us: but we're discussing advanced connection methods which aren't common ssh -X, vnc
[06:17] <Zdra> Cabbage: (hum running gnome in french don't know exactly the english names) that's in the menu System->administation->disks
[06:17] <tsume> anto9us: by proxy, for the X server architecture
[06:17] <dr_willis> sg1_,  clarify what you are wanting to do.. run a X app and see it on the windows machine?
[06:18] <Cabbage> Zdra: Ok, gotcha
[06:18] <sg1_> all this x stuff is confusing me, x as in environment as in windows like?
[06:18] <J_K9> Hi - there seems to be a new problem when installing XGL on Ubuntu (I'm not sure whether it's specific to this user or an update to the repos which has broken it). Does anyone know what has happened? http://tazforum.thetazzone.com/viewtopic.php?p=24429#24429
[06:18] <tsume> sg1_: don't think, you'll hurt yourself
[06:18] <SlyGuy_> oh why oh why can't i install the nvidia drivers
[06:18] <Sammylvz> hi
[06:18] <timalot> snoops: if u are using x apps remotely... and u shut down the client ie your machine u are using , the apps will close, if u use vnc u can setup a virtual desktop and log in/out of it and the apps will still be running
[06:18] <MadScientist> sg1_, X is a TCP service just like Apache :)
[06:19] <tsume> timalot: he knows that
[06:19] <J_K9> SlyGuy: try my tut - http://tazforum.thetazzone.com/viewtopic.php?t=2189 . Might help :)
[06:19] <finalbeta> any chance there is an ndiswrapper for scanners? :p
[06:19] <sg1_> I want to control a linux machine dr_willis over the internet using SSL or SSH to secure the connection
[06:19] <sg1_> see thwe desktop like from windows to windows using realVNC
[06:19] <tsume> timalot: we aren't discussing that, he knows VNC, ssh -x.
[06:19] <SlyGuy_> i'll have a look j_k9
[06:19] <sg1_> with encryption dr_willis
[06:19] <J_K9> Ok
[06:19] <snoops> timalot yeah.. when I close the version on my local machine that's working with the remote machine I don't want it to close :)
[06:19] <SlyGuy_> j_k9: it kills x everytime i try
[06:19] <snoops> I'll play with freenx
[06:19] <mcgpozo> tqmz42
[06:19] <timalot> snoops, use vnc then
[06:19] <Zdra> Cabbage: hm has I see here it will mount your ntfs partition but only root will have permissions and it won't be mounted after a reboot... once again gnome-system-tools sucks... Grrr
[06:20] <J_K9> SlyGuy_ - Sounds weird.. What card do you have?
[06:20] <J_K9> Does anyone know about that XGL issue?
[06:20] <Sammylvz> wat the untopic coz i jst made a new how do u get into the untopic
[06:20] <mcgpozo> tqmz
[06:20] <tsume> snoops: I swear everyone here is so noob they can't read backlogs
[06:20] <SlyGuy_> Geforce go 6600
[06:20] <snoops> tsume sigh yeah thanks
[06:20] <SlyGuy_> laptop
[06:20] <Cabbage> Zdra: Well thanks very much. At least I know it's not my fault, right? =p
[06:21] <tsume> snoops: oh, you could use WebEx as well though ;)
[06:21] <Zdra> Cabbage: yes and no... if you select a mount point for your ntfs partition at install time it works very well
[06:21] <Sammylvz> help plz
[06:21] <J_K9> SlyGuy_: It should work with the standard NVidia driver - http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-a.html
[06:21] <Sammylvz> help plz
[06:21] <Sammylvz> help plz
[06:21] <brainsik> Is there a document which (or can somone here) explains how security fixes are applied to the release version of the universe repository?
[06:21] <Sammylvz>  help plz
[06:21] <Cabbage> Zdra: I believe I did. But It just wom't let me access it from "Computer"
[06:22] <tsume> Sammylvz: ignored
[06:22] <Cabbage> Zdra However I THINK that I can access it from \tmp\
[06:22] <Zdra> Cabbage: if you did it should be displayed it computer ;)
[06:22] <SlyGuy_> J_K9 i followed a Binarydriver howto and when i did the enable on the glx-config i got a md5sum error
[06:22] <Sammylvz> tsume y?
[06:22] <J_K9> SlyGuy_: Try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-20c0b7106f06055eed889efe3946f560c34a8b1a
[06:22] <SlyGuy_> i'll try your tut later
[06:22] <J_K9> Ok
[06:22] <Cabbage> Zdra: Hehe, it's displayed. It's just when I try to access it it just gives me an error. *Sigh* I am dumb.
[06:22] <Zdra> Cabbage: or maybe you have selected a mount point out of /media ?
[06:23] <SlyGuy_> i tried that one J_K9 it failed to work
[06:23] <Zdra> Cabbage:  oh yes it displays the drive but not the volume :s
[06:23] <snoops> tsume umm is there some irc client for linux with a server/client architecture? Eg you open the client, it connects to the server, and grabs all the rooms you're connected to/servers etc and displays them graphically?
[06:23] <love> hi
[06:23] <Cabbage> Zdra: If I'm reading it right, it's  device is /dev/sda
[06:23] <timalot> snoops; vnc isnt too bad if u lower the colors... + use some of the bandwidth saving options
[06:23] <tsume> snoops: you can use bnc for that. its a IRC bouncer :)
[06:23] <Sammylvz> i need help
[06:23] <MadScientist> snoops, hehe, its only irc! :)
[06:24] <Zdra> Cabbage: ok and which partition on it ?
[06:24] <J_K9> SlyGuy_ - What did you try? The troubleshooting section on that page?
[06:24] <MadScientist> snoops, muh or psybnc is as close as you'll get for that
[06:24] <SlyGuy_> yep
[06:24] <SlyGuy_> multiple times
[06:24] <J_K9> Hmm...
[06:24] <SlyGuy_> i reinstalled 2x
[06:24] <Cabbage> Zdra: Hmm.. "Partition 1", access path: "/tmp/disks-conf-sda1"
[06:24] <monomaniacpat> !compile
[06:24] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[06:25] <J_K9> !nvidia
[06:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:25] <snoops> timalot not willing to do that on a gigabit network when rdp works pretty well - when I switch I want an improvement, not worse performance
[06:25] <snoops> thanks MadScientist I'll check'em out
[06:25] <Shizboom> why can't i create any folders ?
[06:25] <Shizboom> it tells me access denied
[06:25] <Zdra> Cabbage:  great ! open a console and type: sudo cat "/dev/hda4       /media/windows     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1" >> /etc/fstab
[06:25] <J_K9> SlyGuy_: Could it be a faulty GPU?
[06:25] <wildman> Shizboom: cuz u don't have enough rights to write on that folder/dir ?
[06:25] <Zdra> Cabbage: then type: sudo mkdir /media/windows
[06:25] <J_K9> Doubt it... But it might be
[06:26] <Zdra> Cabbage: then: sudo mount /media/windows
[06:26] <MadScientist> snoops, apt-get install muh
[06:26] <timalot> snoops, i run vnc on 100 mbit ethernet , and its very usable... web browsing etc
[06:26] <Cabbage> Zdra: Ok, I will try that right now
[06:26] <egarcia> hello
[06:26] <Zdra> Cabbage: wait
[06:26] <Cabbage> Zdra: waiting.
[06:26] <J_K9> Sorry SlyGuy_, I have to go - good luck with that :)
[06:26] <Zdra> Cabbage: change /dev/hda4 with /dev/sda1
[06:26] <SimzI> Can anybody here help me with mounting a remote folder?
[06:26] <Cabbage> Zdra: Alright
[06:26] <wildman> Shizboom: you should have at least 'w' permission set (Write) to create files/folders on a given folder/directory
[06:27] <snoops> timalot I run rdp on gigabit and video is pretty clear streamed through rdp :)
[06:27] <cfarmer> #mepis
[06:27] <timalot> snoops, is there a server support for linux?...
[06:28] <Cabbage> bash: /etc/fstab: Permission denied
[06:28] <snoops> nope timalot :(
[06:28] <Cabbage> Er, Zdra: bash: /etc/fstab: Permission denied
[06:28] <SimzI> are you root Cabbage ?
[06:28] <Cabbage> SimzI, ah do I need sudo.
[06:28] <Zdra> Cabbage: don't forget the "sudo" ;)
[06:28] <SimzI> Probably if it says access denied :] 
[06:29] <MadScientist> timalot, FreeNX is as close as you'll get... which is infact nicer as it does things like cache the content of menu's etc
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox:  You still here
[06:29] <nanomad> who can explain me why i have to hit several times alt+f2 to obtain the run dialog? it was working b4
[06:29] <Cabbage> Hmm.. well it is in there. where else in the line would I need to put it.
[06:29] <Cabbage> before the \etc\fstab?
[06:29] <timalot> snoops, if u are using just terminal based apps u can use something like screen ,,, so the apps dont get hung up
[06:29] <Zdra> Cabbage: oops, change "cat" by "echo".. sorry
[06:29] <Shizboom> wtf when i try to change the permisions it tells me i'm not the owner so i can't
[06:29] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow lol yeah, and it didn't work, after the process I rebooted and it still won't show anything :(
[06:29] <Shizboom> what does that mean?
[06:30] <snoops> timalot I'm not. I prefer using a gui for nearly everything.
[06:30] <i\o> I'm trying to play a wmv file and it says it can't play it because its encrypted.  w32codecs are installed.  When I convert it to avi, its just a bunch of crazy colors.
[06:30] <skybox> meaning no resize or anything
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: Mother is being released from Hosp, need to move her to nursing home today so a lot going on here
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: resizing didnt work?
[06:30] <sg1_> how about, for a secure tunnel over the internet, I use realvnc to connect to a windows machine which then locally connects to the unix machine? as there is 2 machines at the locatio
[06:31] <skybox> oh , I hope it goes well Jack_Sparrow, Thank you so much for at least sticking with my noobiness :)
[06:31] <Jack_Sparrow> what did you have the numbers set at
[06:31] <skybox> yeah after I rebooted I didnt' see a chacne
[06:31] <skybox> change*
[06:31] <Cabbage> Zdra: Prompted me for a password, then it just went back to the blank command line. Does this mean I've done it correctly?
[06:31] <Zdra> Cabbage: hum my command doesn't work... ok so simply edit /etc/fstab
[06:31] <sg1_> would this work as the traffic would only be unencrypted locally over the network and encrypted over the internet?
[06:31] <skybox> it also complained in console , 80 000 bad number or something
[06:31] <Zdra> Cabbage: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[06:31] <Cabbage> ok
[06:31] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: did you click APPLY after you made the changes to the partition size..
[06:31] <Zdra> Cabbage: then add a line: /dev/sda1       /media/windows     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[06:32] <ubuntu_> hello..
[06:32] <SimzI> Could somebody please have a look at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210821
[06:32] <timalot> MadScientist, have u used FreeNX? any good?
[06:32] <Dae> '
[06:32] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow yup and the process started
[06:32] <skybox> I then got a msg I should reboot
[06:32] <Zdra> Cabbage: then save, and run: sudo mount /media/windows
[06:32] <Dae> argh
[06:32] <Dae> could you guys help me a bit
[06:32] <MadScientist> timalot, i am just now... on a 256kbps connections :)
[06:32] <funkmaster> how do i find out what keeps a device busy?
[06:32] <wildman> Dae: just shot your question
[06:32] <funkmaster> can' umount
[06:32] <ardchoille> Dae: What's up?
[06:32] <wildman> funkmaster: fuser /dev/name
[06:33] <Dae> Errrmmm... I had dual boot and then BANG PC shut down then I switched it back on.. and nothing worked
[06:33] <wildman> funkmaster: will give u the process name 'using' the device
[06:33] <Dae> I tried to reinstall windows.. didnt work
[06:33] <Dae> I tried to install ubuntu and it worked.. for a while
[06:33] <fr00d> Why aren't my batterystats shown by acpi -V in breezy?
[06:33] <snoops> timalot and yeah I think I'll use a mixture of freenx, web interfaces, ssh, and vnc(for the windows clients).
[06:33] <Cabbage> Zdra: "/media/windows does not exist" ='/
[06:33] <fr00d> hoary worked fine
[06:33] <Dae> but then.. in the middle of installation it just jammed to "unpacking dpkg" or somethin
[06:33] <vy2wu> any ham operators here who have BBSes up and running?
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: and when you run it you do not see any of the changes?
[06:34] <funkmaster> wildman: doesn'T return anything
[06:34] <Dae> Now Im runnin ubuntu live cd..
[06:34] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow correct
[06:34] <Shizboom> for this folder it says the owner is root, how do i login as root?
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo
[06:34] <skybox> it's still 51.484 free
[06:34] <Zdra> Cabbage: oh yes, sudo mkdir /media/windows
[06:34] <wildman> funkmaster: then, in principle, no process is 'locking' the device
[06:34] <vy2wu> or sudo su
[06:34] <wildman> funkmaster: try -l option for umount?
[06:34] <timalot> MadScientist, cool ill give it go....
[06:34] <muaddib> Hello all
[06:34] <Dae> so what could be wrong..
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: you need to figure out what it did or did not do.
[06:34] <wildman> Dae: did you check your hardware?
[06:35] <funkmaster> wildman: thx l option worked
[06:35] <Dae> Er... I think my processor overheated and that's why this pc shut down but if this live CD works shouldnt that installation work too?
[06:35] <wildman> funkmaster: yw
[06:35] <Jack_Sparrow> you can also try the Ultimate boot disk ISO...  It has several good tools
[06:35] <skybox> Jack, well as it is now, i'm gonna format my entire hdd, I know I will loose precious data, but I don't care ,and after that install grub and etc, aka the easy way
[06:35] <Zdra> Cabbage: ubuntu will be perfect when gnome-system-tools will works...
[06:35] <sycho> how game i remove the sound apps and the games that were preinstalled with ubuntu? when I tried to unistall them in the advanced mode it said they would also unistall ubuntu-desktop
[06:36] <skybox> I'm in a hurry too, i'm leaving tomorrow, and I need dual layer break before that
[06:36] <Jack_Sparrow> skybox: best plan so far.
[06:36] <skybox> Jack_Sparrow thanks anyways bud, you've helped a lot ^_^
[06:36] <Cabbage> Zdra:  hehe alright, going to try this now. Was afk for a second
[06:36] <wildman> Dae: maybe your processor 'overheating' means it will do "BOOM!" with noise, and smoke and all, I'd have your computer checked by a technicia....
[06:36] <skybox> I hope it goes well with your family, have a good day Jack_Sparrow
[06:36] <Jack_Sparrow> np... Bye All
[06:36] <Dae> mmm...
[06:36] <Dae> Just my luck ...
[06:36] <skybox> this is what I love about this place
[06:37] <skybox> guys like Jack_Sparrow
[06:37] <Dae> I just ordered the newest ATI gfx card and then the only thing that actually works is linux ....
[06:37] <Cabbage> Zdra: Alright. Came back to another blank command line. Has it done this correctly?
[06:37] <Dae> and ati doesnt work on linux so well doesnt it?
[06:37] <dr_willis> Dae,  not so hot.
[06:37] <wildman> Dae: nVidia here, cannot tell... however I've read that ATI does work
[06:37] <Zdra> Cabbage: ok so you did the mkdir and the mount ? so it should work now :)
[06:37] <dr_willis> :)
[06:38] <dr_willis> ive gotten where i dont even use ati at all.
[06:38] <Cabbage> Zdra: Alrighty then. Trying it now
[06:38] <Cabbage> Zdra: Even if it doesn't work, thank you so much =)
[06:38] <Zdra> Cabbage: look in /media/windows with nautilus
[06:38] <Dae> gah.. dat's suckage
[06:38] <Dae> I guess I need to go back and try to fix this thing and at least install somekinda OS
[06:39] <jeff__> hey guys
[06:39] <Cabbage> Zdra: Where is nautilus located?
[06:39] <wildman> Dae: maybe, but not so hot, nor 'strange' system behaviour either...
[06:39] <darth_gimp> how do I correct this problem      configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[06:39] <jeff__> does anybody here have an ubuntu server?
[06:39] <wildman> Cabbage: Places->Home dir, u'll get a Nautilus window open on $HOME
[06:39] <Zdra> Cabbage: nautilus is the file browser, the same program you use to open your documents
[06:39] <Cabbage> Ah thank yo uboth.
[06:39] <wildman> darth_gimp: sudo apt-get build-essential, IIRC
[06:39] <jeff__> anybody have an ubuntu server?
[06:39] <dmitr1> hi all, how do i know if a package's kernel buils is building or stuck? its been at it for over 30 mins now (when previous versions took 20 seconds)
[06:39] <Dae> I like linux but I just cant use it because games dont work so well ._.
[06:40] <Zdra> Cabbage: your windows files should also be accesssible via "computer"
[06:40] <wildman> !compile
[06:40] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[06:40] <wildman> Dae: I was going to ask you if you were a gamer...
[06:40] <darth_gimp> Thanks!
[06:40] <wildman> Dae: do you overclock your system?
[06:40] <Dae> ^
[06:40] <Dae> nope
[06:40] <wildman> darth_gimp: yw
[06:40] <sycho> HOw can I remove the default gnome games? Under the advanced mode it tells me I would also have to unistall gnome-desktop
[06:40] <Cabbage> Zdra: Hmm. when I try to get to /media/windows, I see nothing in the directory. And whe I try to access it from "Computer", it says I don't have permissions to view the idrectory
[06:40] <wildman> Dae: then a visit to a technician might not hurt... :)
[06:40] <dr_willis> sycho,  gnome-desktop is just a meta-package - its ok to remove it.
[06:40] <snoops> anything similar to exchange server for linux?
[06:40] <Dae> pleh
[06:41] <cougem> u know ubuntu server? what is it? is it essentially normal ubuntu but just without x? if so i mean, aren't all distros really the same at a server level? just a bunch of the same programs running in the console? i mean ubuntu has apt-get but so does debian?
[06:41] <zambaboo> hey guys, take a look please: http://pasteme.com/p.php?id=120
[06:41] <Dae> I'll just buy a new cpu =D
[06:41] <Zdra> Cabbage: arf...
[06:41] <Dae> this one is oldie anyways
[06:41] <sycho> dr_willis does anything else use it besides the games?
[06:41] <Cabbage> Zdra: yes =/
[06:41] <wildman> Dae: good luck
[06:41] <Zdra> Cabbage: do you see your files with: sudo ls /media/windows ?
[06:41] <Dae> well.. cyas I'll try to fix this now..
[06:41] <Dae> ->
[06:41] <dr_willis> sycho,  its just a meta-package that is used to include ALL the standard desktop packages..     sort of like ordering a "#1 at McDonolds" :P
[06:41] <Zdra> Cabbage: ... and the same command without the sudo ?
[06:41] <Cabbage> Zdra: No, just brings up a blank line.
[06:42] <Zdra> Cabbage: arf arf
[06:42] <dr_willis> sycho,  by remiveng part of it you are breaking the 'package' and thus removeing it.
[06:42] <Zdra> Cabbage: did you run: sudo mount /media/windwos ?
[06:42] <Zdra> s/windwos/windows/
[06:42] <wildman> zambaboo: very strange... how comes it says 'in use' and it's not mounted?....
[06:43] <sycho> Dr_willis is there a better way to remove the default games and music apps?
[06:43] <zambaboo> wildman, exacto-mundo!
[06:43] <Cabbage> Zdra: mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /media/windows busy
[06:43] <Cabbage> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is mounted on /tmp/disks-conf-sda1
[06:43] <dr_willis> sycho,  that is the way to do it.
[06:43] <Zdra> Cabbage: ok ok :)
[06:43] <wildman> zambaboo: /etc/fstab doesn't list hdb at all?
[06:43] <Generic> hey everyone
[06:44] <Generic> i am having an xubuntu installation problem
[06:44] <sycho> dr_willis thanks alot
[06:44] <zambaboo> nope
[06:44] <zambaboo> wildman, not at all
[06:44] <ArtVanda1ae> Hi
[06:44] <wildman> zambaboo: _very_ strange...
[06:44] <zambaboo> i KNOW
[06:44] <wildman> zambaboo: solve it  la Windows? (reboot)
[06:44] <wildman> zambaboo: wait...
[06:44] <zambaboo> mmmm
[06:44] <wildman> zambaboo: fuser /dev/hdb3
[06:44] <dr_willis> sycho,  ya could just remove the icons. :P
[06:44] <Generic> does anyone know what "Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 32" means?
[06:45] <darth_gimp> wildman.. any experience with setting up Wacom Tablet for pressure sensitivity in Ubuntu? I downloaded the lateste linuxwacom driver...
[06:45] <jeff__> does anybody have an ubuntu server?
[06:45] <zambaboo> wildman, nnnada
[06:45] <zambaboo> Generic, trubble
[06:45] <darth_gimp> but, no go on the sensitivity.
[06:45] <wildman> zambaboo: damn it
[06:45] <ArtVanda1ae> I'm trying to install Nvidia drivers for my Nvidia GX6600 (Go). I've followed the guide, but whenever I restart the X server it crashes, it says it cannot find the nvidia module. Do I have to modprobe it?
[06:45] <wildman> darth_gimp: not that much of an artist, sorry ;)
[06:45] <zambaboo> wildman, i know. im gonna try and reboot this thing..
[06:45] <dr_willis> ArtVanda1ae,  you may have to the first time.
[06:45] <darth_gimp> no worries.. thanks..
[06:45] <wildman> zambaboo: yep, cuz I have ' idea...
[06:45] <wildman> 0 idea, I mean zambaboo
[06:45] <dr_willis> ArtVanda1ae,  it should auto-load however from then on.
[06:45] <Generic> zambaboo: i have tried burning another copy at lower speed, but it gives the same error, i do not think the cd is botched
[06:45] <jeff__> is there any kind of gui for server app configuration?
[06:45] <rbman> trying to compile a program under ubuntu and getting an error about not finding a working gcc (after doing a sudo apt-get install gcc)...any hints in what I'm doing wrong?
[06:45] <wildman> darth_gimp: yw
[06:46] <wildman> rbman: supo apt-get install build-essential
[06:46] <wildman> rbman: sometimes install of gcc alone is not enough...
[06:46] <rbman> wildman...   you rock, thanks
[06:46] <darth_gimp> anyone have trouble with the Add/Remove option in Application after upgrading to Dapper?
[06:46] <wildman> rbman: been zere, dun that. yw.
[06:47] <wildman> bon... back to work. cya
[06:48] <cougem> u know ubuntu server? what is it? is it essentially normal ubuntu but just without x? if so i mean, aren't all distros really the same at a server level? just a bunch of the same programs running in the console? i mean ubuntu has apt-get but so does debian?
[06:50] <dr_willis> cougem,  theres lot of low level/little differances
[06:50] <KenSentMe> cougem: ubuntu server still has some typical ubuntu things like sudo and the package versions
[06:50] <cougem> like howd u mean?
[06:50] <void^> you'll probably find rather big differences between debian sarge and ubuntu server.. kernel, hotplug/hal, etc
[06:50] <dr_willis> cougem,  for debian/ubuntu - they both use their own repositories of software
[06:50] <dr_willis> and ubuntu is more cutting edge in some areas as well. like void^  said.
[06:51] <Cabbage> Zdra: Should that error message have hinted to me what was wrong?
[06:51] <tonybaloney> hi guys, i'm trying to figure out a boot issue where my Ubuntu laptop, right after install, will reboot itself right after loading the kernel
[06:51] <tonybaloney> it won't boot :(
[06:51] <SimzI> You know when you minimize a window it has the animations. Is there anyway to get rid of the animated black box things?!
[06:51] <finalbeta> how do I get 5.1 Sound out of rhythmbox?!?
[06:51] <dr_willis> SimzI,  looked into that and the gnome-devs have basicially said "no we dont want to allow the users to disable that" (last i looked)
[06:51] <dr_willis> SimzI,  and i agree - its ugly and annoying.
[06:51] <SimzI> Bah that sucks
[06:51] <SimzI> Yes it is
[06:52] <SimzI> And isn't good when you have a slow computer
[06:52] <dr_willis> SimzI,  one of my top 10 griefs with gnome.
[06:52] <dr_willis> SimzI,  bingo.. or bad video drivers.
[06:52] <Shizboom> wow these permissions are annoying
[06:52] <SimzI> yup
[06:52] <dr_willis> SimzI,  could change the windowmanager to somthing else other then metacity. or just use a lighter window manager. like fluxbox + gnome panel
[06:53] <SimzI> bah cba dr_willis
[06:53] <timalot> SimzI,  look at  /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources in gconf-editor
[06:53] <Foobal> I was about to comment on my #1 grief on the Gnome but I'm too drunk to think of what it was :P
[06:54] <dr_willis> timalot,  heh - cool. they may of added it finially. :P  now if they could just put a nice check box some where.
[06:54] <SimzI> timalot, which option is it
[06:54] <timalot> dr_willis, that would be too easy :)
[06:54] <dr_willis> timalot,  right and then the mailing list would argue for weeks about 'where to put the check box'
[06:54] <var> could someone help me figure out whats up with my wireless card?  it seems like it should be working, but its erm, not
[06:55] <var> I read that 6.06 supports mine out of the box
[06:55] <var> but wlassistant doesn't show my networkj
[06:55] <dr_willis> timalot,  google hit -->  http://www.gnome.org/~newren/tutorials/developing-with-gnome/html/apd.html
[06:55] <var> network*
[06:55] <timalot> SimzI, go to run dialog alt-f2, type gconf-editor then navigate to : /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources
[06:55] <dr_willis> timalot,  a little tool to set it. :)
[06:55] <SimzI> yeh i'm in it
[06:55] <SimzI> reduced_resources
[06:55] <SimzI> ?
[06:56] <elkbuntu> var, people might have more chance helping you if you give details about the card
[06:56] <var> elkbuntu: it's a WL45, the RT2500 drivers
[06:56] <var> linksys
[06:56] <var> with the rubber duck antenna
[06:56] <SimzI> ah yeh
[06:56] <SimzI> dr_willis, tick the reduced_resources
[06:56] <SimzI> gets rid of it :D
[06:56] <var> it is using version 3.1 of RT2500
[06:57] <jeelliso> hello
[06:57] <timalot> dr_willis, well since its an example program no one can argue if its user friendly
[06:57] <dr_willis> SimzI,   heh - assuming its not been moved in the latest gnome.
[06:57] <var> I have the drivers, but I thought I'd make sure it's working like it's supposed to before I use ndiswrapper
[06:57] <SimzI> how do i update gnome?
[06:57] <dr_willis> The key is in apps -> metacity -> general
[06:57] <var> elkbuntu: is that sufficient information?
[06:58] <elkbuntu> var it should be. i dont personally know anything about wireless, but now other people can see the information too
[06:58] <var> heh, you got me excited -- thanks though
[06:59] <Ackeubu_> hey how do I install an .tar.gz?
[06:59] <void^> var: internal pci rt2500?
[06:59] <benkong2> I have ubuntu dapper 6.06 installed on my laptop and working just great. I want to try kubuntu also. Will it break my system to apt-get install kubuntu desktop?
[07:00] <vladanian> Have people here managed to enable the dapper-commercial repo?
[07:00] <W3bbo> Hi, where is the PHP interpreter binaries stored in Ubuntu? I can't find them
[07:00] <Ackeubu_> benkon2 no
[07:00] <Foobal> benkong2: it's safe
[07:00] <finalbeta> how do I get 5.1 Sound out of rhythmbox?!?
[07:00] <Foobal> vladanian: "apt-cache search php"
[07:00] <judah> benkong2: i'm going to go with no..
[07:00] <SimzI> can anyone help with: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210821
[07:01] <benkong2> Foobal: Ackeubu_; thanks. LAst time I tried my network manager went south and was broken
[07:01] <var> void^: w00t it seems like its working now for some reason
[07:01] <benkong2> judah: why no?
[07:01] <var> but yes, its internal pci 2500
[07:01] <timalot> W3bbo, i think if u want the commandline version its a different package
[07:01] <judah> benkong2: however, i am not a gaurntee.. and it's sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:01] <W3bbo> Foobal: that doesn't tell me where in the filesystem they are
[07:02] <judah> benkong2: because they're two different desktop environments. they shouldn't colide much.
[07:02] <benkong2> judah: ok thanks
[07:02] <vladanian> I tried to install opera from the add/remove dialog, it told me that dapper-commercial wasn't yet enabled, but that it would be enabled if I went ahead and installed opera -- instead, I keep getting re-prompted to enabled the dapper-commercial repo
[07:02] <sycho> Whats a good video player that can do it all? :) dvds, .avi, streaming video.
[07:02] <judah> benkong2: good luck.
[07:02] <W3bbo> sycho: VLC
[07:02] <benkong2> thanks
[07:02] <judah> sycho: vlc, mplayer
[07:02] <Cabbage> Zdra: You haven't died on me now, have you?
[07:02] <sycho> thanks
[07:02] <timalot> W3bbo, php4-cli
[07:03] <DevilsNeverCry> is there a way that the damn usb modem f200 of crypto will work under 6.06? :(
[07:03] <benkong2> I'll also ask the kubuntu guys before doing this
[07:03] <W3bbo> timalot: "php4-cli", it says "command not found"
[07:03] <timalot> W3bbo, u need to install the php4-cli package to get the command line version of php
[07:04] <timalot> W3bbo, then its just 'php' from the command line
[07:04] <W3bbo> "bash: php command not found"
[07:04] <Dr_Socrates> hi : does ubuntu dapper save all downloaded updates ?
[07:05] <Dr_Socrates> i couldnt find where
[07:05] <judah> Dr_Socrates: /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:05] <nocti> what's the hotkey for switching windows?
[07:05] <judah> Dr_Socrates: there are options to make it clean up after itself in the package managers..
[07:05] <Dr_Socrates> judah: thank you very much
[07:06] <Ackeubu_> Hey i get this error mess, but i have libncurses5 installed
[07:06] <Ackeubu_> Cannot build refdb without either libtermcap, libncurses, or libcurses
[07:06] <Dr_Socrates> i found. bye bye
[07:06] <Dr_Socrates> quit
[07:06] <littletown> hallo, how can i uninstall a software with apt without resolving the dipendencies?
[07:06] <judah>  leave
[07:06] <judah> ;)
[07:06] <raj> @ nocti trl+alt aleft arrow
[07:06] <Ackeubu_> what do i need to compilesources?
[07:06] <judah> !build-essential
[07:06] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[07:06] <ubuntu_> i am a kid wate what is this
[07:07] <timalot> littletown, look at the --force options in dpkg
[07:07] <nocti> raj, do the numbers work?
[07:08] <raj> nocti no
[07:08] <raj> nocti ctrl + alt +sde arrow keys
[07:08] <scattersfc> !nvidia
[07:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:08] <littletown> timalot, tnx
[07:09] <nocti> raj, ok dude thanks
[07:09] <timalot> !kernel
[07:09] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:10] <littletown> i installed abiword, now if i want to uninstall it synaptic ask to remove the ubuntu-desktop too :(
[07:10] <scattersfc> !nvidia
[07:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:10] <judah> littletown: oops.. ;)
[07:11] <littletown> oops :(
[07:11] <INeedHelp> hi
[07:11] <NeedHelp> hi?
[07:12] <krang> Hey, my users don't seem to be able to use their USB keys. This looks like a problem with pmount not executing, but SUID bit is set for both user and group under the owner "plugdev". How can I sort this out?
[07:12] <timalot> littletown, ubuntu-desktop is just a virtual package u can remove it safely
[07:12] <Sean-Michael> hello'
[07:12] <Sean-Michael> Man, there anyway to scroll rss and or live bookmarks across youre desktop?
[07:12] <NeedHelp> krang, i have a similar problem
[07:12] <dvhart> Hi NeedHelp, just ask your question
[07:12] <Guyver`> hi
[07:12] <littletown> wow tnx, i thought it was something important
[07:12] <krang> NeedHelp: Annoying isn't it
[07:12] <NeedHelp> Right, yesterday I had no probs, I could plug my external HDD in and it would recognise it and it would appear on the desktop
[07:12] <timalot> littletown, yeah thats what i thought when i first saw that
[07:13] <NeedHelp> Now, it doesn't automount and put  on the desktop
[07:13] <NeedHelp> I can manually mount it but why is it not doing what it used to
[07:13] <dvhart> krang, have looked to see if the device is available to pmount?
[07:13] <dvhart> krang, I had to whitelist my pcmcia card reader
[07:13] <dvhart> krang, granted that is a little different
[07:13] <c0re^> i have this problem, ive installed nvidia drivers from a guide, and now everytime i boot ubuntu says it cant start 'gnome-settings-daemon'. i also cannot access system dialogs without it saying this
[07:13] <krang> DVhart: I can't even execute pmount with no parameters
[07:14] <dvhart> krang, permission denied?
[07:14] <krang> dvhart: yup
[07:14] <c0re^> krang: sudo :)
[07:14] <NeedHelp> can anyone help me?
[07:14] <dvhart> krang, what is the output of `groups`
[07:14] <dvhart> when run as your user
[07:14] <c0re^> i have this problem, ive installed nvidia drivers from a guide, and now everytime i boot ubuntu says it cant start 'gnome-settings-daemon'. i also cannot access system dialogs without it saying this
[07:14] <dvhart> NeedHelp, just follow along with krang here
[07:15] <krang> c0re^: I have no idea how to make the automatic mounting process use sudo. I'd really just like to make pmount work
[07:15] <benkong2> In synaptic there is an option to "consider recommended packages as dependencies" does that mean that those packages will be installed also?
[07:15] <pitti> krang: are you in group 'plugdev'? check with 'groups'
[07:15] <panzar> i'd like to remove gdm. but apt-get want's to remove xubuntu-desktop aswell. how can I solve that?
[07:15] <LjL> benkong2: yes
[07:15] <LjL> (though that sounds strangely like aptitude)
[07:15] <benkong2> LjL: Is this also available from the command line?
[07:15] <krang> dvhart: groups gives members cdrom floppy audio video
[07:15] <LjL> benkong2: this what?
[07:16] <dvhart> does anyone know of a way to tell the xserver (or wm) to not put windows on a screen that has been unplugged (using xinerama)
[07:16] <vladanian> I asked earlier about the dapper-commercial channel -- in case anyone else was wondering about that, the channel is "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main"
[07:16] <NeedHelp> I don't know why my USB disk doesn't auto mount and appear on my desktop like it did yesterday.
[07:16] <dvhart> krang, you are not in the plugdev group
[07:16] <gatekeeper> benkong2: it also means they will be uninstalled if you uninstall that package
[07:16] <benkong2> LjL: this ability to have suggested packages installed as dependencies
[07:16] <dvhart> krang, "adduser krang plugdev"
[07:16] <dvhart> then log out and back in
[07:16] <benkong2> ok thanks
[07:16] <Sean-Michael> Man, there anyway to scroll rss and or live bookmarks across youre desktop?
[07:16] <LjL> benkong2: if you use aptitude rather than apt-get, that's the default behavior
[07:16] <NeedHelp> I can pmount / mount mine but it just doesnt automount and appear on the desktop
[07:17] <LjL> benkong2: if you use apt-get, i bet there is an option somewhere
[07:17] <benkong2> LjL: aha! I should use aptitude more then.
[07:17] <panzar> please, any ideas how I can remove gdm? without removing xubuntu-desktop.
[07:18] <oezguer> hi everybody
[07:18] <panzar> hum :)
[07:18] <timalot> panzar, without gdm u wont be able to log into x
[07:18] <panzar> quick turns...
[07:18] <panzar> timalot, i know
[07:18] <krang> dvhart, pitti: cheers, trying that now
[07:18] <gnomefreak> panzar: sudo apt-get remove gdm but you wont have a log in screen unless you have kdm
[07:18] <judah> timalot: what about using the command startx
[07:18] <pitti> krang: that's your problem, you need 'sudo adduser krang plugdev'
[07:18] <panzar> timalot, well. atleast not graphically
[07:18] <oezguer> i open the  website to listen radio, but in that window  NO PCITURE :( how can i listen it? and also some videos :( always No Picture :(
[07:18] <judah> timalot: that always works for me ;)
[07:19] <panzar> gnomefreak, but it tries to remove xubuntu-desktop aswell.
[07:19] <panzar> don't know how to avoid that.
[07:19] <gnomefreak> panzar: thats ok
[07:19] <judah> when i don't run xdm/gdm/some-dm .. ;)
[07:19] <timalot> panzar, yeah that works... but no one likes the command line... thats why they use ubuntu :)
[07:19] <gnomefreak> xubuntu-desktop has nothing
[07:19] <cougem> im bored, give me something cool to apt-get that i can play with
[07:19] <Jowi> panzar: x/k/ubuntu-desktop are meta packages
[07:19] <judah> panzar: there probably is a way to get apt-get to hold back packages
[07:19] <DefLeppard> hello, I am facing a problem with Login Manager. It is seg-fault ing
[07:19] <panzar> joh, which means?
[07:19] <NeedHelp> Wait!
[07:19] <oezguer> help pls :( i open the  website to listen radio, but in that window  NO PiCTURE :( how can i listen it? and also some videos :( always No Picture :(
[07:19] <judah> panzar: look and aptitude and apt-get man pages
[07:19] <NeedHelp> "Error: '/' must not occur in label name"
[07:19] <Sean-Michael> thought xubuntu-desktop deals, helps with updates?
[07:20] <NeedHelp> when I pmount /dev/sdb1 (external hdd)
[07:20] <gnomefreak> Sean-Michael: only to upgrade ubuntu versions
[07:20] <tanawana> cougem: got an ipod? try gnupod
[07:20] <timalot> panzar, are u sure its  not a virtual pacakge... ie doesnt install any files and nothing depends on it
[07:20] <judah> panzar: spacifically the --no-upgrade option of apt-get
[07:20] <jeelliso> anybody an Alsa "expert"
[07:20] <Sean-Michael> I see' :)
[07:20] <NeedHelp> Can anybody help?
[07:20] <panzar> Tidus, don't know :) that's why im asking :)
[07:20] <DefLeppard> root@ubuntu:~# gdmsetup
[07:20] <DefLeppard> Segmentation fault
[07:20] <panzar> judah, ok, thanks
[07:20] <judah> panzar: pay attention.. i just told you how.
[07:20] <judah> oh jhe
[07:20] <judah> sorry.
[07:21] <panzar> :)
[07:21] <panzar> np chap
[07:21] <Jowi> panzar: metapackages are just a collection of packagenames for easy upgrades etc
[07:21] <nofx_br> some tips about "Racer" on ubuntu ?? its like 1fps and I hav 2gig and a 9800xt
[07:21] <panzar> Jowi, ok. so they're harmless to remove?
[07:21] <cougem> whats racer?
[07:21] <leks> anyone having fglrx with a working clone mode running?
[07:21] <Sean-Michael> later all'
[07:21] <nofx_br> cougem: a free game
[07:21] <Sean-Michael> ;)
[07:22] <Jowi> panzar: yep. but if you want the dist-upgrades to function properly you can add them before upgrading.
[07:22] <nofx_br> http://www.racer.nl/
[07:22] <judah> panzar: i wouldn't say harmless really.
[07:22] <panzar> ok
[07:23] <DefLeppard> Gdmsetup seg-fault, anyone?
[07:23] <judah> beagle sure is handy when it's working smoothly.
[07:23] <timalot> panzar, i dont have ubuntu-desktop installed ... it dont mean a thing
[07:23] <var> having a heck of a time getting my kubuntu 6.06 box to connect to my apple internet sharing, using wireless connection
[07:23] <panzar> alright, then I'll have a try
[07:23] <cwillu> okay, so I can print fine from open office, but when I try to print a pdf, no printers show up in the printer dialog, and the app freezes :/
[07:24] <cwillu> any ideas?
[07:24] <var> wlassistant has failed with every variation of WEP authentication on both 128 and 64 bit WEP keys
[07:24] <var> im using a pci internet RT2500 card, the WL45
[07:24] <panzar> var, used "ascii" ?
[07:24] <var> yessir.
[07:24] <panzar> and you're supposed to? :(
[07:24] <panzar> :)
[07:25] <var> is it because im using a passkey and not a hex key?
[07:25] <Jowi> timalot, panzar: when I upgraded to dapper from breezy, having ubuntu-desktop installed cleared some confusion of why some packages failed to upgrade. just be aware of it and you'll be fine.
[07:25] <panzar> ok
[07:25] <panzar> i'll try to install it right after
[07:25] <var> 'tis quite frustrating
[07:25] <timalot> but having it implies u have gdm
[07:25] <panzar> oh...
[07:25] <panzar> ok
[07:25] <panzar> thanks a lot for the help guys
[07:25] <panzar> gonna try some things :)
[07:25] <judah> sweet.
[07:26] <panzar> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31310.html
[07:26] <panzar> this is what i wanted to achieve, btw
[07:26] <panzar> reboot and test
[07:26] <var> anyone know anything about apple internet sharing, and how to interact with kubuntu wlassistant
[07:26] <var> im trying to share my ethernet connection via wireless
[07:26] <Stormx2> hey everybody
[07:27] <timalot> Jowi, ill keep that in mind thanx... still using breezey ....
[07:27] <leks> none?
[07:27] <kaot> var:  like [box]  (wireless) [box] --(internet) ?
[07:28] <var> yes
[07:28] <var> err no
[07:28] <kaot> var: can't help ya lol
[07:28] <Cody> How do I install my usb logitech Mic?
[07:28] <cwillu> cups seems to be broken;  some apps freeze when I go to the print dialog;  help!
[07:28] <var> [box(wireless*broadcasting)] --internet  box[wireless,receiving] 
[07:29] <Cody> How do I install my usb logitech Mic?
[07:29] <judah> chmod 644 /etc/init.d/gdm
[07:29] <var> Cody: give it candy
[07:29] <Foobal> Cody: just plug it in and select the sound source at the Preferences
[07:29] <judah> toss a little sudo in there.
[07:29] <kaot> var: yeh, i gotcha.  haven't done that one yet
[07:29] <Cody> ok, one sec
[07:29] <var> grrr this is so frustrating
[07:29] <var> i tried every single variation on wep authentication
[07:30] <Cody> How?
[07:30] <Cody> it only has options for audio out
[07:31] <judah> var: why not just not use WEP and do the security from your own desktop/s/
[07:31] <judah> WEP sucks anyway.
[07:31] <cwillu> Why did my printing break :(
[07:31] <judah> relying on the wireless to do your security ESPECIALLY wep is not fool proof.
[07:32] <INeedHelp> Help! lee@Pixel:~$ pmount /dev/sdb1 /home/lee/Desktop/test
[07:32] <INeedHelp> Error: '/' must not occur in label name
[07:33] <INeedHelp> what is wrong
[07:33] <INeedHelp> I havent got a / in the name
[07:33] <winman> when I do sudo <command> it works, but when I try to do a su -, it fails with an authentication failure message
[07:33] <winman> what's going on?
[07:33] <timalot> i think pmount mounts under /media
[07:33] <INeedHelp> k
[07:33] <Polkadotshorts> Can someone help me with this problem (has to do with a midi keyboard, but I seem to be ignored the whole time): http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210896
[07:34] <LjL> winman: nothing. su is not supposed to work
[07:34] <LjL> !tell winman about sudo
[07:34] <judah> winman: root doesn't really have a password.
[07:34] <DBO> winman, root is disabled
[07:34] <LjL> winman: the root account is disabled
[07:34] <judah> winman: use sudo -S   or sudo su -
[07:34] <INeedHelp> thanks
[07:34] <Polkadotshorts> I get that aswell, winman
[07:34] <Jowi> INeedHelp: mount and pmount has different options
[07:34] <LjL> judah: you mean sudo -s i think
[07:34] <INeedHelp> On the desktop it comes up under 'sdb1' but why doesnt it automount like it used to
[07:34] <judah> LjL: the account isn't disabled.. there is no password set.
[07:34] <rebelfallen> hey when I try to get mail using fetchmail I get this error 'fetchmail -v' http://pastebin.ca/81584    I don't have an SMTP server on localhost how can I change this setting?
[07:34] <judah> when you execute a command with sudo you're really doing it as root.
[07:34] <LjL> judah: well, the net effect is the same
[07:34] <damunoz> Hi, I have a question about linux. is it posible to lock a computer from the console?  Im working remotely with a computer that i want to disable.
[07:35] <judah> LjL: i would dissagree.
[07:35] <Polkadotshorts> Can someone help me with this problem (has to do with a midi keyboard, but I seem to be ignored the whole time): http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210896
[07:35] <judah> sudo su -   you're logged in a root.. in /root your home dir.
[07:35] <judah> that's prefectly enabled.
[07:35] <judah> if you then typed passwd while logged in a root via sudo su - .. then the root password is now set.
[07:36] <judah> and you can su - all you want.
[07:36] <judah> ps -eaf | grep root
[07:36] <INeedHelp> Why doesn't my drive automount at connect like it used to 1 - 2 days ago?
[07:36] <judah> it's not disabled.. is all i'm saying.
[07:36] <Aragorn_Guardian> i need help in using hwclock...
[07:36] <SonicChao> Aragorn_Guardian: can you state the problem...?
[07:36] <SonicChao> Aragorn_Guardian: we don't like asking 20 questions.
[07:37] <babis85> hello guys, i have a serious problem, could you help me?
[07:37] <LjL> judah: well, that's correct in theory, i don't dispute that. i just contend that "disabled" is an accurate enough term, if not technically 100% accurate, based on the fact that most Ubuntu Wiki documents have used the term "disabled" and "enabled" since ever
[07:37] <winman> oh, nice, thanks all of you
[07:37] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi...my hwclock informs me time diferente feom my system date...
[07:37] <LjL> !helpme
[07:37] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:37] <Aragorn_Guardian> ok...i can solve this by ntp...
[07:37] <babis85> ok, i enabled the root passwd
[07:37] <judah> LjL: ok.
[07:37] <Aragorn_Guardian> but now i run hwclock -w by mistake, when i must run hwclock -r :/
[07:37] <judah> LjL: i don't like it but.. ok ;) disabled.
[07:37] <Jowi> Aragorn_Guardian: hwclock --systohc (set hardware clock from system time) or hwclock --hctosys (set system time from hardware clock)
[07:37] <someothernick> when i put a cd or dvd in my drive Ubuntu freezes. is there a way to fix this?
[07:37] <Aragorn_Guardian> i need reboot my box?
[07:37] <kevinz> hi there. i just see an update notice for app-install-data-commercial version from 3 to 4 but strangely it is "NOT AUTHENTICATED". what is up?
[07:38] <LjL> judah: i'll take care of saying "locked" in the future, that's probably more like it.
[07:38] <Aragorn_Guardian> is safe or can i leave that
[07:38] <babis85> after this i disabled it and now i can't run any command as user with sudo
[07:38] <damunoz> Hi, I have a question about linux. is it posible to lock a computer from the console?  Im working remotely with a computer that i want to disable.
[07:38] <LjL> babis85: congratulations for doing the number 1 thing that's always been adviced against in Ubuntu ;-)
[07:38] <LjL> babis85: are you in the "admin" group?
[07:39] <judah> LjL: I like the term Transmorgafied.
[07:39] <babis85> probably
[07:39] <babis85> how can i see that?
[07:39] <damunoz> can someone answer my question please?
[07:40] <LjL> babis85: "cat /etc/group | grep yourusername" (sorry, rough way... i don't remember the "politically correct" command :)
[07:40] <fourat_> hello all
[07:40] <tristanmike> I'm having a small problem, if I visit a page with flash, it displays it correctly, but if there's a menu, it gets covered over by the flash image, is there any way to adjust this ?
[07:40] <fourat_> my microphone is not working under ubuntu !
[07:40] <tristanmike> that's a drop down menu like
[07:41] <bilss> hey
[07:41] <nataly> hola
[07:41] <babis85> it prints two lines 1) babis85:x:1000:cupsys and 2)printadmin:x:1001:babis85
[07:41] <Polkadotshorts> Can someone help me with this problem (has to do with a midi keyboard, but I seem to be ignored the whole time): http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210896
[07:41] <judah> babis85: you can just type   groups  at the command line for your user.
[07:41] <nataly> Alguien en espaol
[07:41] <LjL> judah: thanks
[07:41] <LjL> !es
[07:41] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:41] <judah> ;)
[07:42] <nataly> por fa como hago para crear una clave de root en ubuntu
[07:42] <babis85> ok am in the admin group
[07:42] <nataly> por fa como hago para crear una clave de root en ubuntu
[07:42] <rebelfallen> hey when I try to get mail using fetchmail I get this error 'fetchmail -v' http://pastebin.ca/81584    I don't have an SMTP server on localhost how can I change this setting?
[07:42] <nataly> por fa como hago para crear una clave de root en ubuntu
[07:42] <LjL> !ops
[07:42] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[07:42] <damunoz> nataly: sudo su
[07:42] <gnomefreak> LjL: ?
[07:42] <Polkadotshorts> Can someone help me with this problem (has to do with a midi keyboard, but I seem to be ignored the whole time): http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210896
[07:42] <LjL> gnomefreak: nataly
[07:42] <bilss> can somebody explain this line please auth: "ckpasswd -f /usr/local/news/etc/nntpusers"
[07:42] <Amaranth> !es
[07:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:42] <keithg> Hello, is there a new guide to installing nVidia drivers for Dapper?  I installed them before, and it destroyed X.
[07:42] <gnomefreak> nataly: join #ubuntu-es
[07:42] <bbrazil> nataly: #ubuntu-es
[07:42] <nalioth> !es
[07:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:42] <LjL> nataly: and don't spam, at any rate
[07:42] <nataly> gracias ya me acorde
[07:42] <someothernick> Help plz, When i put a cd or dvd in my drive Ubuntu freezes. Is there a way to fix this?
[07:43] <nataly> pero cual es la clave por defecto?
[07:43] <dr_willis_> keithg,  gee.. its always been a 3 min setup for me.. cut and paste about 3 lines.
[07:43] <nalioth> damunoz: please don't advise that in here, you will get broken systems that way
[07:43] <LjL> nataly: hablamos *ingles* aqui
[07:43] <nataly> :(
[07:43] <LjL> nataly: y en cada caso, no hacer esto
[07:43] <LjL> !tell nataly about sudo
[07:43] <keithg> dr_willis_:  That's strange, it used to always work for me as well.  I did it and X was destroyed.  I don't want to do it again and have to reinstall Ubuntu again.  :'(
[07:44] <LjL> nataly: usa sudo por ganar privilegios de root, no cree una clave de root
[07:44] <alakdan> hello, anyone using eclipse in dapper here?
[07:44] <LjL> babis85: then your /etc/sudoers is probably messed up. have you edited it?
[07:44] <SonicChao> alakdan: :(, please state the question
[07:44] <Raito> How would I get an Intel dual processor working on ubuntu? Or is it already working?
[07:44] <LjL> babis85: have you run "visudo" by any chance?
[07:45] <dr_willis_> keithg,  or learn what it did and learn how to fix it.. i doubt if it 'destroyed' much more then your X config
[07:45] <scheuri> is automount with samba still broken?
[07:45] <babis85> i don't think so, but i am not sure
[07:45] <alakdan> SonicChao: sorry, I just want to know which one is faster eclipse or eclipse gcj
[07:45] <damunoz> curious how fast you answer when i do something you dont like!!!
[07:45] <damunoz> but you cant aswer my only questions.
[07:45] <babis85> LjL: no i haven't
[07:45] <LjL> babis85: ok, you need to edit /etc/sudoers and fix it. however, you need to be root to do that... so i guess you'll either have to boot your system to rescue mode (you can do that from the boot menu), or use a live cd
 damnot the way to go about getting help <hint/>
[07:46] <babis85> ok, and how i fix it?
[07:46] <LjL> babis85: a correct /etc/sudoers file looks like      root ALL=(ALL) ALL    and then on the following line   %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[07:46] <keithg> dr_willis_:  Good idea, I'll get on learning how to fix that before hand.  Thanks for the gentle nudge in that direction.  :-P  Bye.
[07:46] <Polkadotshorts> Can someone help me with this problem (has to do with a midi keyboard, but I seem to be ignored the whole time): http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210896
[07:46] <Polkadotshorts> That is the seventh time i have asked today
[07:46] <Zambezi> Can anyone help me with tct?
[07:47] <babis85> that's all?
[07:47] <LjL> babis85: by default ubuntu also has a line at the beginning that says     Default    !lecture,tty-tickets,!fqdn
[07:47] <gnomefreak> Polkadotshorts: if no one knows they cant answer you
[07:47] <Polkadotshorts> windows
[07:47] <bilss> gnomefreak; how;s it going
[07:47] <fourat_> my microphone is not working under ubuntu !
[07:47] <LjL> babis85: but yeah that should be all (i'm not even sure that last line i mentioned is really needed)
[07:47] <Polkadotshorts> sorry
[07:47] <Polkadotshorts> lol.
[07:47] <gnomefreak> hi bilss
[07:47] <SonicChao> Polkadotshorts: don't complain, at least you're getting help
[07:47] <Newb> Hello, I've never tried Linux before and so far have yet to check any in depth faqs. With the WGA problem plagueing Windows, I was wondering if Ubuntu is the most newb friendly Linux to try. Will I need to know some technical stuff before being able to install it?
[07:47] <dr_willis_> Polkadotshorts,  the # of people in here with midi keyboards - is proberly very very  low.
[07:47] <babis85> ok, i boot to safe mode and i will return (hope to do that)
[07:48] <Polkadotshorts> Help? Defenition of help is = nothing.
[07:48] <Polkadotshorts> Sorry.
[07:48] <babis85> thanks LjL
[07:48] <LjL> babis85: hold on a second
[07:48] <bilss> gnomefreak: pretty busy
[07:48] <Polkadotshorts> I had to sayt hat.
[07:48] <LjL> babis85: i can never remember whether you *can* boot to rescue mode, without a working admin password
[07:48] <dr_willis_> its best to google and check the forums/message boards for the more obscoure problems
[07:48] <SonicChao> Polkadotshorts: Now everyone is probably ignoring you, including me.
[07:48] <Polkadotshorts> But i must admit, it may be just me. My english is terrible
[07:48] <skavenge> !patience
[07:48] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:48] <LjL> does anyone know for sure if booting to rescue mode is possible when sudo isn't working?
[07:48] <LjL> babis85: (otherwise, the only option is the live cd)
[07:49] <gnomefreak> LjL: it is
[07:49] <LjL> babis85: ok, see what gnomefreak said
[07:49] <babis85> i think it's working, check this and tell me: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#head-b06dbcd33c40480dcfd3aada1ca67bbd77f80594
[07:49] <LjL> babis85: what's working?
[07:49] <gnomefreak> LjL: edgy had a sudo update that screwed up everything that is the way i had to fix it ;)
[07:49] <Polkadotshorts> Ok. Buh bye everyone. Gotta restart. (but since you are ignoring me, saying bye seems trivial)
[07:50] <babis85> booting in rescue mode
[07:50] <dr_willis_> well i was going to answer Polkadotshorts  but....
[07:50] <LjL> gnomefreak: you might not believe this, but i never had to boot to rescue :)
[07:50] <gnomefreak> LjL: thats the first time
[07:50] <gnomefreak> for me
[07:51] <dr_willis_> Shame on us all for not knowing exactly how to get a Midi keyboard going!
[07:51] <babis85> LjL: what i am supposed to do? can i boot?
[07:51] <babis85> LjL:sorry i didn't understand
[07:51] <tich> does anyone know of a fuzzy clock (gives approx. time) for the gnome panel? apparently there is one for kde so i figure there must me one for gnome somewhere. right?
[07:51] <LjL> babis85: yes, you can boot and then you can edit /etc/sudoers by typing "visudo" (or failing that, "nano /etc/sudoers")
[07:52] <mabus> tich: what's the purpose of that
[07:52] <babis85> LjL: ok, i will be back in a while, thanks
[07:52] <gnomefreak> tich: not always true but i would run apt-cache search clocks to find out or use synaptic
[07:52] <dr_willis_> tich,  ive seen such a thing.. i forget where.. and considered it silly. :P
[07:52] <dr_willis_> id rather have a clock that says the time
[07:52] <Wddit> I have a hard drive devided into two partition which on of them belong to linux and the other one to windows. how do i add the windows partition to the other one?
[07:52] <mabus> "9 30ish"
[07:53] <dr_willis_> real geeks want their time out to 10 decimal places!
[07:53] <gnomefreak> 1:53:35ish ')
[07:53] <someothernick> Help plz, When i put a cd or dvd in my drive Ubuntu freezes. Is there a way to fix this?
[07:53] <sysrpl> how can i add a single svg graphic to the kde icon cache?
[07:53] <tich> i think it is awesome. when would i need to know that it is exactly 1.53? five to two is exact enough.
[07:53] <Newb> Hello, I've never tried Linux before and so far have yet to check any in depth faqs. With the WGA problem plagueing Windows, I was wondering if Ubuntu is the most newb friendly Linux to try. Will I need to know some technical stuff before being able to install it?
[07:53] <Newb> Is this the wrong place to ask?
[07:54] <rebelfallen> How do I set the reply-to in PINE to something other than ROOT?
[07:54] <Knorrie> Newb: This is the right place
[07:54] <Foobal> Newb: just try it out. the idea is AWESOMe though the technical side is still lacking - but it'll get better in 5-10 years
[07:54] <Knorrie> Newb: The latest ubuntu, 6.06 should be nice to new users
[07:54] <keithg> Newb:  Welcome, I find Ubuntu to be very newbie friendly.
[07:54] <nataly> please I need to know like changing the key of root in ubuntu
[07:54] <alakdan> hello anyone know if gcj eclipse version is faster than the normal eclipse?
[07:54] <nataly> please I need to know like changing the key of root in ubuntu
[07:54] <nataly> please I need to know like changing the key of root in ubuntu
[07:55] <gnomefreak> Newb: most everything you can do in terminal you can do in GUI
[07:55] <alakdan> in dapper drake i mean.
[07:55] <gnomefreak> nataly: saying it once is enough thank you
[07:55] <gnomefreak> nataly: define key of root
[07:55] <QMario> How can I improve my printing experience with Firefox on Ubuntu?
[07:55] <SimzI> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210821
[07:55] <skavenge> i believe key means password
[07:55] <winman> how much download does it take to upgrade to dapper from breezy?
[07:56] <Wddit> question: I have a hard drive devided into two partition which on of them belong to linux and the other one to windows. how do i add the windows partition to the other one?
[07:56] <SonicChao> winman: what do you mean, like how many MB?
[07:56] <nataly> i dont know
[07:56] <nataly> :(
[07:56] <SonicChao> winman: Or how fast?
[07:56] <winman> SonicChao, yes
[07:56] <Newb> Um... trying it out won't screw anything in Windows right? err... sorry, I have no idea what terminal or GUI means yet. I'll look into it. Which is more newb friendly? Dual boot, Ubuntu burned to a CD or a normal install?
[07:56] <jrib> !root > nataly
[07:56] <rapera> hello
[07:56] <nataly> ok
[07:56] <SonicChao> rapera: Hi
[07:56] <winman> SonicChao, just the MB, how fast would depend on my net's speed :)
[07:57] <SonicChao> winman: not quite sure.......
[07:57] <rapera> hello
[07:57] <Foobal> Newb: that depends on how retarded you are to say it honestly. I've been running linux as my main OS for some 4 years and I'm not one of those computer science hard core nerds and I've been mostly happy - not completely but mostly
[07:57] <rapera> spanis
[07:57] <winman> SonicChao, how long did it take for you?
[07:57] <SonicChao> rapera: HI. State the problem.
[07:57] <SonicChao> Please.
[07:57] <SonicChao> winman: lol, I started with dapper. :)
[07:57] <jrib> !es
[07:57] <winman> SonicChao, :P
[07:57] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:58] <skavenge> Newb: the benefit of ubuntu is you have a 'live cd' (everything runs off the cd without doing  anything to the system) and you can install from it as well, so you have an idea of how it will work before you install
[07:58] <nataly> this say Authentication failure
[07:58] <Crescendo> Where should I go for WinE support?
[07:58] <jrib> nataly: what is "this"?
[07:58] <Crescendo> !wine
[07:58] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:58] <Foobal>  crescendo: "apt-get install wine"
[07:58] <gnomefreak> Crescendo: #winehq
[07:58] <nataly> the terminal
[07:58] <Crescendo> Thanks.
[07:58] <Crescendo> =)
[07:58] <Newb> Ok, thanks. I'll check it out
[07:58] <SonicChao> Crescendo: 'sudo' first
[07:58] <jrib> nataly: what did you try to do that made it say that?
[07:58] <nismo`hasan> i want to stop raid services loading since i dont have any raid devices ive got "BUM" installed but cant find anything to do with raid there?
[07:58] <nataly> alguien que hable espaol...! dios..!
[07:58] <Crescendo> ...Foobal, SonicChao - I've already done that.
[07:59] <Seveas> !es
[07:59] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:59] <jrib> nataly: #ubuntu-es
[07:59] <SonicChao> Crescendo: Oh, k.
[07:59] <SonicChao> How many times is "!es" going to be used today?
[07:59] <gnomefreak> Crescendo: please read the link ubotu gave you it will help if thats teh link im thinking of
[07:59] <SonicChao> ;)
[07:59] <gnomefreak> SonicChao: all day
[07:59] <QMario> Ompaul, How can I improve my printing experience with Firefox on Ubuntu?
[07:59] <keithg> Newb:  The default PC edition CDs let you try out Ubuntu before you install it.
[07:59] <teclo> Hello, I have a problem adding a printer in cups on http://127.0.0.1:631/ I have said "AuthType None" everywhere in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf, but when I try to add a printer, I am still asked for a user and password, and as you may know, root *doesn't* have a password in ubuntu. So how can I add a printer in cups on http://127.0.0.1:631/ ?
[07:59] <Foobal> Crescendo: then just "wine myprogram.exe" or double click insanely. if it doesn't work wine doesn't either support your stuff or you'll have to fool around with "winecfg" mmkay
[08:00] <QMario> Seveas, how can I improve my printing experience with Firefox on Ubuntu?
[08:00] <Foobal> QMario: by installing Windows Vista beta 3
[08:00] <pdani_> hi
[08:00] <QMario> Foobal, why?
[08:00] <pdani_> how can i determine a remote machine's online state (there's no open TCP/UDP ports on the remote machine)?
[08:00] <pdani_> neither ICMP
[08:00] <Foobal> why not. the more insane and inaccurate question the more insane and inaccurate answer :)
[08:01] <Crescendo> gnomefreak, not really an issue, but I don't know where to ask this question, #ubuntu or #winehq... I installed Guild Wars using WinE, it ran fine, update, installed, ran... now it's grabbed fullscreen on one of my workspaces, alt-tab won't work because I don't have any other windows on that space... and CTRL-Z won't terminate the window.  How to switch workspaces, maybe?
[08:01] <keithg> Newb:  And I dual boot between Win2k (for games ONLY) and Ubuntu.  I don't have any experience with installing a dual boot on one hard drive, I have two separate ones.
[08:01] <nataly> como entro a ubuntu en espaol?
[08:01] <Crescendo> !es
[08:01] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:01] <jrib> nataly: /join #ubuntu-es
[08:01] <Crescendo> Use /join #ubuntu-es
[08:01] <Crescendo> AHA!  ALT-ENTER worked!
[08:01] <Crescendo> =D
[08:02] <gnomefreak> Foobal: he asked a very good question since its been on launchpad for a while
[08:02] <Crescendo> Now, how to switch workspaces?
[08:02] <QMario> Foobal, when I print from Firefox, the alignment of the original webpage is off.
[08:02] <Foobal> gnomefreak: you mean the thing that the ubuntu cups is "crippled" somehow?
[08:02] <jrib> Crescendo: system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts, you can setup what you want.  Default is ctrl-alt-<arrow keys>
[08:02] <gnomefreak> Foobal: no its not crippled
[08:02] <Foobal> that's what some blogs called it :)
[08:03] <fourat_> my microphone is not working under ubuntu !
[08:03] <Crescendo> jrib, I can't access that.
[08:03] <hcjc92> i love ubuntu! (and fluxbox)
[08:03] <rapera> hola
[08:03] <fourat_> alsamixer shows a disabled microphone column
[08:03] <QMario> Foobal?
[08:03] <Crescendo> Ctrl+Alt+Arrow worked though, thanks.
[08:03] <Newb> Is the .iso file the same file that's supposed to be the live cd? I'm on this site: http://mirror.lupaworld.com/ubuntu/releases/6.06/
[08:03] <Foobal> never mind, I'm a retard :)
[08:04] <kitche> fourat_ unmute the microphone in alsamixer and hwta do you mena disabled?
[08:04] <Reimu> What is the most lightweight audio player there is for gnome?
[08:04] <gnomefreak> QMario: does it give you any errors?
[08:04] <QMario> Gnomefreak, no. The printing is the error.
[08:04] <fourat_> kitche, "and hwta do you mena disabled?" ?
[08:04] <QMario> Gnomefreak, do you mean CUPS or Firefox?
[08:05] <winman> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS is Dapper right?
[08:05] <Foobal> reimu: most likely xmms because it's one of the oldest ones that still has got gui
[08:05] <Foobal> wingman: yeah
[08:05] <gnomefreak> QMario: i mean while trying to print for firefox does it give you any errors?
[08:05] <Reimu> Foobal: is there anything even more lightweight without a GUI? >_<
[08:05] <wildman> !root
[08:05] <fourat_> what's the diffrenc between dapper and ubuntu ?
[08:05] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:06] <gnomefreak> QMario: also is a any certain type of file that it messes up on?
[08:06] <Foobal> reimu: what's heavy there is the decoding of mp3.. cli applications are available but I doubt they really would make any difference (like mpg123)
[08:06] <theeil> ever since i installed xgl and compiz (i am still using xgl but not compiz) fonts rendered with opengl are messed up. xine's gui is also useless - how do i fix this?
[08:06] <Foobal> theeil: uninstall xgl and compiz
[08:07] <Reimu> Foobal: well I want something that puts an extreemly small load on my comp, I don't even care if it doesn't have mp3 support
[08:07] <Commander-Crowe> How do you change the defualt OS in GRUB through Ubuntu?
[08:07] <QMario> Gnomefreak, no.
[08:07] <jrib> Foobal: dapper is the latest stable release of ubuntu
[08:07] <jrib> Commander-Crowe: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:07] <kitche> fourat_ What do you mean by disabled*
[08:07] <Reimu> Commander-Croew: Not sure what you mean, but I think you want to edit the menu.lst
[08:08] <Commander-Crowe> I know that
[08:08] <sysrpl> how can i add a single svg graphic to the kde icon cache?
[08:08] <Commander-Crowe> but I want Ubuntu as my Defualt and it isn't
[08:08] <someothernick> how do i change permissions for my dvdrw drive?
[08:08] <fourat_> kitche, i cant mute/unmute it, i cant use arrows to up/down volume, i can only check it as a capture device
[08:08] <wildman> Commander-Crowe: look for 'default NUMBER' on menu.lst
[08:08] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[08:08] <Commander-Crowe> its on XP right now
[08:08] <wildman> Commander-Crowe: and change accordingly
[08:08] <Commander-Crowe> but I'd rather it be Ubuntu
[08:08] <Foobal> reimu: try "nano" *smirk*
[08:08] <jrib> Commander-Crowe: in that file, you will find a line that reads: default    <number>             You need to change this number to what you want
[08:08] <hcjc92> nano is good!
[08:09] <Foobal> you can then read the audio data ;)
[08:09] <kitche> fourat_ that sounds a bit strange to me
[08:09] <Jowi> Commander-Crowe: at the top of menu.lst you have "default saved" change it to "default 1" (or another number)
[08:09] <wildman> Commander-Crowe: just count (starting from 0) entries and change the number for buntu's
[08:09] <teclo> ..hello, I have a problem adding a printer in cups on http://127.0.0.1:631/ I have said "AuthType None" everywhere in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf, but when I try to add a printer, I am still asked for a user and password, and as you may know, root *doesn't* have a password in ubuntu. So how can I add a printer in cups on http://127.0.0.1:631/ ?
[08:09] <Reimu> Foobal: nano? err I thought nano was a text editer
[08:09] <Reimu> oh... >_<
[08:09] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[08:09] <Commander-Crowe> brb
[08:09] <Foobal> reimu: it's pretty light weight ;)
[08:09] <hcjc92> Reimu, tis and editor
[08:09] <jrib> teclo: can't you use system > administration > printing?
[08:09] <NemosNemos> Hi, my Cpy works at 10-11%. Is it normal?
[08:10] <andy___> I wrote a message in here yesterday saying I'm having trouble configuring an ATI Radeon card to work with ubuntu. I'm still having the troubles and I've been through a lot of online resources.
[08:10] <NemosNemos> andy
[08:10] <NemosNemos> I'll help you
[08:10] <Reimu> Foobal: Alright, I'll go with xmms, I just wanted something really lightweight because I used to use kubuntu and got nightmares of amaroK
[08:10] <azcazandco> think I have done something stupid but don't know how to check if I have or not
[08:10] <fourat_> if i install Ubuntu 5.10, it gives breezy by default ? i would like to get Dapper, and what's the diffrence between Ubuntu 5.10 and Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[08:10] <Reimu> thanks, bye
[08:10] <NemosNemos> I've just installed my driver on Ubuntu
[08:10] <azcazandco> whenever i try and drag an app to my top tool bar i now get an error
[08:10] <andy___> Nemos, I'm running a 9800. I used the commercial installer from ATI and I've read through a ton of docs online and I still can't get it to work.
[08:10] <azcazandco> I was able to do it before
[08:10] <InterNut> hi all! if i have a big mp3 (complete album) and a cue file that tells the burner how it will make the tracks, is there anyway i can "chop" it up my self or use a program for it? i dont like having it as one big file.
[08:10] <NemosNemos> ok andy
[08:11] <NemosNemos> i, my Cpy works at 10-11%. Is it normal?
[08:11] <NemosNemos> Andy, I've sent you a private message
[08:11] <jrib> fourat_: yes, 5.10 is breezy.  Dapper is 6.06.  You can install breezy and then upgrade to dapper (the bot will send you instructions in a private message).  The difference is basically packages that are 6 months newer and 6 more months of work by the devs
[08:11] <NemosNemos> read it
[08:11] <jrib> !upgrade > fourat_
[08:11] <NemosNemos> Andy, read the private message
[08:11] <NemosNemos> OK?
[08:12] <QMario> Gnomefreak.
[08:12] <andy___> Let me register a nick.
[08:12] <NemosNemos> ..
[08:12] <winman> SonicChao, in case you are interested, its 576 megs :(
[08:12] <NemosNemos> I see
[08:12] <NemosNemos> Andy
[08:12] <NemosNemos> are you there?
[08:12] <gnomefreak> QMario: im still looking there are 300 something
[08:12] <NemosNemos> are you here, sorry?
[08:12] <K^Holtz> when i open serpentine, it says no recording drive found.. do i have to mount my burner and how do i do that? is it mount /media/cdrom1 ?
[08:12] <QMario> Gnomefreak, 300?
[08:12] <bur[n] er_> anyone use hte totem-xine-firefox-plugin successfully to play windows media?
[08:13] <Foobal> burner: it's quite crashy.. I'm afraid it just sucks in the long run
[08:13] <bur[n] er_> bummer
[08:13] <gnomefreak> QMario: is your system fully updated?
[08:13] <monomaniacpa1> Can someone help me backup a driver?
[08:13] <NemosNemos> Andy, I'm writing...
[08:13] <bur[n] er_> mplayer hasn't been so solid for me as of late
[08:13] <NemosNemos> Answer
[08:13] <andy___> Nemos, I'm not getting the messages. Let me get a nick without 40 underscores...
[08:13] <Foobal> vlc firefox plugin is 100% stable.. but the default compiled binary version doesn't have support for wmv9
[08:14] <kitche> NemosNemos: he can't anwser you since he isn't registered
[08:14] <NemosNemos> ok andy
[08:14] <azcazandco> also does anyone have any tip son remote managing one ubuntu box from another?
[08:14] <QMario> Gnomefreak, no.
[08:14] <gnomefreak> QMario: im sorry its 535 bugs
[08:14] <bur[n] er_> azcazandco: ssh or vnc
[08:14] <K^Holtz> when i open serpentine, it says no recording drive found.. do i have to mount my burner drive and how do i do that? is it mount /media/cdrom1 ?
[08:14] <andy1234> I just registered the nick...
[08:14] <gnomefreak> QMario: what version of ubuntu are you using and with what printer
[08:14] <InterNut> hi all! if i have a big mp3 (complete album) and a cue file that tells the burner how it will make the tracks, is there anyway i can "chop" it up my self or use a program for it? i dont like having it as one big file.
[08:14] <azcazandco> is vnc easy enough?
[08:14] <monomaniacpa1> Does anyone know if all I have to backup for a driver is the .ko file?
[08:15] <QMario> Gnomefreak, Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, PRINTER: HP PSC 2410 All-in-One.
[08:15] <kitche> monomaniacpa1: .ko is mostly for that kernel only hence it's a module
[08:15] <azcazandco> want to install a web server on the box, is sitting next to me and hooked up via ethernet, I only have one keyboard and mouse though
[08:15] <NemosNemos> Andy...........
[08:15] <NemosNemos> I can't wait for you, sorry
[08:15] <Foobal> monomaniacpal: yeah, tha'ts true. however it'' be most likely incompatible with ANY other kernel tanks to the retardeness of the kernel devs
[08:15] <NemosNemos> so, if you want help from me, ok
[08:15] <root_> !xlibs
[08:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about xlibs
[08:15] <nismo`hasan> !iptables
[08:15] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[08:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[08:15] <Commander-Crowe> um
[08:15] <root_> !xfree86
[08:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about xfree86
[08:15] <monomaniacpa1> kitche: I have an xpad driver for my xbox pad and want to back it up so I can try building it from source
[08:15] <Commander-Crowe> another problem
[08:15] <andy1234> Nemos... I'm here I just sent you a message. I'm not getting any from you
[08:16] <Commander-Crowe> I need root admin to edit it
[08:16] <monomaniacpa1> !compile
[08:16] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:16] <jrib> !sudo > Commander-Crowe
[08:16] <Commander-Crowe> so how do I edit the file
[08:16] <teclo> Iget server-error not accepting jobs on my cups server
[08:16] <NemosNemos> andy
[08:16] <nismo`hasan> how do i enable iptables in the kernel config?
[08:16] <Commander-Crowe> I'm in GUI not CLI
[08:16] <NemosNemos> Andy, come on #gallipoli, let's talk there
[08:16] <jrib> Commander-Crowe: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst    <--use that command
[08:16] <fourat_> what's the diffrence between universe/multiverse in sources ?
[08:16] <Commander-Crowe> in terminal?
[08:16] <Jowi> Commander-Crowe: same thing. open a terminal in GUI
[08:16] <ideogram> I have just compiled an application that created a .so file, how do I tell the executable how to find it?
[08:16] <ardchoille> NemosNemos: you can do /query andy1234 and talk in pm
[08:16] <fourat_> is it like stable/unstable in debian ?
[08:16] <jrib> Commander-Crowe: there is a terminal in the gui you can access at applications > accessories > terminal
[08:17] <kimo> !universe
[08:17] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:17] <Commander-Crowe> I know that
[08:17] <kimo> !universe > fourat_
[08:17] <k0n> hey guys
[08:17] <kitche> monomaniacpa1: just compile it from source, it shouldn't effect that
[08:17] <jrib> fourat_: no, the first link ubotu just gave you, explains it
[08:17] <K^Holtz> when i open serpentine, it says no recording drive found.. do i have to mount my burner drive and how do i do that? is it mount /media/cdrom1 ?
[08:18] <monomaniacpa1> kitche: I want to edit the .c file so I can change the triggers from analogue to digital, so presumably I'll have to over-write the original driver - is it possible to keep two drivers on the computer?
[08:18] <Foobal> you keep on wondering, genius
[08:18] <cwillu> kimo: it's much harder than it looks to not just be annoying
[08:19] <kitche> monomaniacpa1 just back that one up that .ko file
[08:19] <cwillu> much nicer to just have an explicit way of telling it what you want to hear
[08:19] <kimo> cwillu: of course it will be just replying to the one asking. So I dont asking it will be annoying, right!
[08:19] <hcjc92> i got server edition and got fluxbox and xserver-xorg and blah blah so i can say startx is there any way i could graphicly login to flux or do i have to use that prompt?
[08:19] <cwillu> kimo:  you can already do !search foo
[08:19] <Foobal> hcj92: just start xdm from init.d or whatever
[08:19] <kimo> cwillu: I'm not talking AI, it's like regex '.*universe.*?' ==> !universe
[08:20] <cwillu> !search wine
[08:20] <ubotu> Found: k9copy, appdb, cedega, wine
[08:20] <AT> hi all, anyone willing to point an ubuntu newbie (w/ linux experience) to point to help regarding mounting nfs shares? i couldn't find anything on TFW
[08:20] <kimo> cwillu: yeah, but all newbies dont know what ubotu is! They need us hitting !keyword, which is kinda dumb
[08:20] <hcjc92> Foobal, if i do that, what is xdm gonna start, will it start flux or xfce?
[08:20] <cwillu> AT: i.e., not windows shares?
[08:21] <Gasten> where can I look at my system-information? Like harddrisk-space, RAM, CPU, and such? (similar to System in Windows)
[08:21] <AT> cwillu: NFS shares on a SuSE 9.1 box. works perfectly with sarge
[08:21] <Foobal> hcjc02_ tjeres's something like /etc/X11/sessions/ ,check it out
[08:21] <cwillu> AT: regular mount commands should work then;  mount in /media for places integration
[08:21] <K^Holtz> No recording drive found on your system, therefore some of Serpentine's functionalities will be disabled. <-- How can i fix this?
[08:21] <ivoks> so... where's the dapper-commercial repository? :)
[08:21] <rellim> lol
[08:22] <AT> cwillu: I am getting RPC timeouts. portmap is installed and running out of the box
[08:22] <AT> cwillu: BTW, this Dapper
[08:22] <AT> is
[08:22] <cwillu> does the nfs stuff need to be told to use a particular network adapter maybe? (sorry, windows integration is my specialty :p)
[08:22] <AT> cwillu: the relevant autofs files are from my debian install
[08:23] <AT> cwillu: that would have been samba rather than nfs, right ;)
[08:23] <AT> cwillu: damn, since I'm in quite a hurry
[08:24] <cwillu> wasn't sure if you were a noob who though nfs was a fancy way of saying ntfs, and thinking that's what you needed :p
[08:24] <cwillu> have you seen
[08:24] <cwillu> nfs
[08:24] <cwillu> !nfs
[08:24] <zspada15> hi
[08:24] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[08:24] <Commander-Crowe> bad news
[08:24] <Commander-Crowe> I restarted
[08:24] <Commander-Crowe> it gave me error and can't load the OS
[08:24] <Commander-Crowe> saying that theres no such command
[08:24] <kitche> what's the exact error Commander-Crowe?
[08:24] <Commander-Crowe> um
[08:24] <Commander-Crowe> don't know
[08:25] <zspada15> ubuntu is giving me problems, it makes my screen look weird even after i typed vga=771
[08:25] <K^Holtz> No recording drive found on your system, therefore some of Serpentine's functionalities will be disabled. <-- How can i fix this?
[08:25] <twb> Howdy.  In Debian, the Xlib manual is provided by the `xspecs' package.  This doesn't appear to be in Dapper; what provides the Xlib manual in Dapper?
[08:25] <Commander-Crowe> it happened when I changed the savedefualt on XP to defualt 1
[08:26] <AT> cwillu: like i said, nfs server has been up and running for years in this config. will check the client settings for daftness on my side ;)
[08:26] <hcjc92> Foobal, you mean /etc/X11/Xsessions
[08:26] <Commander-Crowe> in GRUB that is
[08:26] <h4v0k> i need some help installing a font for gaim
[08:26] <monomaniacpat> kitche: I want to edit the .c file so I can change the triggers from analogue to digital, so presumably I'll have to over-write the original driver - is it possible to keep two drivers on the computer?
[08:26] <h4v0k> can anyone help
[08:26] <cwillu> AT: ya, just wondering if that page had anything ubuntu client specific
[08:26] <kimo> !kernel
[08:26] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[08:26] <twb> h4v0k: put the font in ~/.fonts
[08:26] <kitche> monomaniacpat: just backup the other module
[08:26] <SlyGuy> anyone know how I enable widescreen resolution on my laptop? i installed the nvidia drivers but i can only select max 1024x768
[08:26] <h4v0k> and then i can get it on gaim
[08:26] <jurgz> does anyone have experience with cedega cvs in dapper?
[08:26] <jeelliso> is there a good HOWTO or wiki article on creating a custom kernel?
[08:26] <tailsfan> Ubuntu will not detect my sound card, what do I do
[08:26] <monomaniacpat> kitche: how do I do that?
[08:27] <cwillu> jeelliso: check what ubotu said above
[08:27] <Foobal> hcjc02: yeh that indeed just text files that get read thand the ommands run - sorr I'm dea drunk t obe more useful but xdm/gmd/kdm all read those and offer those sseesions for you - so just run xdm somehow from init.d
[08:27] <erUSUL> !kernel > jeelliso
[08:27] <kitche> monomaniacpat: just copy it to another folder
[08:27] <kitche> but shouldn't really do it with a module
[08:27] <tailsfan> I want sound, but Ubuntu will not detect my sound card
[08:27] <jeelliso> cwillu, erUSUL:  thanks
[08:27] <tailsfan> I'm using Dapper Drake if you need to know
[08:28] <monomaniacpat> kitche: OK, but what is this 'other' module you speak of? I don't know what files it installs, I only know I have an xpad.ko file
[08:28] <kitche> .ko is a kernel module
[08:28] <breadmachine> hello all
[08:28] <zspada15> hi breadmachine
[08:28] <kimo> !kernel > jeelliso
[08:28] <breadmachine> im kind of in a bind, and im new to linux, so hang with me a second
[08:29] <zspada15> does anyone know how to not make ubuntu when it boots into the GUI look like my screen is melting?
[08:29] <h4v0k> twb, i have two directories /usr/local and /usr/share which one should it go in
[08:29] <monomaniacpat> kitche: so xpad.ko is the only file I need to backup? How would I know if there was another one?
[08:29] <tailsfan> I'm also new to Ubuntu, I only installed it a couple of days ago
[08:29] <h4v0k> twb, or both
[08:29] <Jowi> zspada15: come again?
[08:29] <kitche> monomaniacpat it's usually only one file
[08:30] <jeelliso> zspada15: i've got the same thing before, so I know what you're talking about, but I've never found a fix either
[08:30] <mrtwister> hi. can someone help with NX-server ? http://pastebin.ca/81635
[08:30] <zspada15> i even typed vga-771
[08:30] <cwillu> breadmachine: what's the trouble?
[08:30] <SlyGuy> hmm nothing on widescreen eh? darn
[08:30] <K^Holtz> i'm sorry, but i kind of need help quickly, i asked a couple times and i feel bad for repeating myself a lot, but I just need to know why my burner drive is not being recognized
[08:31] <twb> h4v0k: fonts go in ~/.fonts
[08:31] <breadmachine> well, im not exactly sure how to phrase this, but i have my ethernet card configured properly, and im using DSL through quest using an actiontec gateway, i can use synaptic and get updates, but i can access only the ubuntu help page and ask.com through firefox
[08:31] <kalosaurusrex> !info lavalite
[08:31] <h4v0k> K^Holtz, did you load it in mod?
[08:31] <ubotu> Package lavalite does not exist in dapper
[08:31] <Foobal> mrtwister: changeyour distro or read the instructions all over again
[08:31] <K^Holtz> i searched the forums and google linux, couldnt find an answer
[08:31] <K^Holtz> h4v0k: i dont know what mod is
[08:31] <Gasten> where can I look at my system-information? Like harddrisk-space, RAM, CPU, and such? (similar to System in Windows)
[08:32] <mrtwister> Foobal: what instructions, i do apt-get and then ldconfig and then nxsetup
[08:32] <cwillu> breadmachine: can you ping stuff from the terminal (command prompt)?
[08:32] <twb> K^Holtz: to what bus is the drive connected?  ATA/IDE?
[08:32] <h4v0k> K^Holtz, type in the terminal lsmod and see if it is listed there
[08:32] <kitche> Gasten: I made a script that does it, it's relatively easy to find on the net
[08:32] <sarsosasan> question: the 'add applications' option on the applications menu has for some reason or another dissappeared, can anyone help me?
[08:32] <breadmachine> yes, i can, although not at the moment, i switched back to XP cuz i couldnt connect to IRC using xchat
[08:32] <kristian> How do I get azuerus to work?
[08:33] <h4v0k> K^Holtz, if not in the terminal type sudo modprobe (the name of your burner)
[08:33] <tailsfan> And is there a subsitute to PeerGuardian in Ubuntu?
[08:33] <cwillu> breadmachine: so ping google.ca worked, but firefox google.ca didn't?
[08:33] <zspada15> is there any way that i can install ubuntu without the gui?
[08:33] <Gasten> kitche: Oh? the name?
[08:33] <breadmachine> cwillu: exactly, along with virtually every other site on the net not working
[08:33] <twb> zspada15: yes, "server" at the "boot:" prompt.
[08:33] <zspada15> but when it installs have the gui be installed
[08:33] <gnomefreak> zspada15: server install
[08:33] <jrib> zspada15: use the alternate cd
[08:33] <cwillu> except ask.com
[08:33] <K^Holtz> h4v0k: im not sure what the name of drive is, its an internal drive
[08:33] <cwillu> weird
[08:34] <gnomefreak> jrib: server iso
[08:34] <h4v0k> twb, there is no ~./fonts file or directory
[08:34] <zspada15> how do i get a boot: prompt?
[08:34] <breadmachine> cwillu: exactly
[08:34] <twb> h4v0k: mkdir ~/.fonts
[08:34] <K^Holtz> h4v0k: made by acer
[08:34] <kitche> Gasten: it's a shell script I found it on a website many months ago
[08:34] <gnomefreak> but not sure if he wants server install or text installer
[08:34] <h4v0k> twb, k
[08:34] <cwillu> breadmachine: the ubuntu stuff that shows up is local, so that should always work (for some value of always)
[08:34] <zspada15> does my system just not like linux GUIS? first ubuntu, then gentoo
[08:34] <cwillu> breadmachine: did it work fine under a live cd?
[08:34] <jrib> gnomefreak: yeah I think I misread
[08:34] <cwillu> oh
[08:34] <K^Holtz> twb: im not sure what busit is connected to, i cant exactly open the case right now either
[08:34] <twb> zspada15: do a normal install, then run "update-rc.d gdm --remove" as root.
[08:34] <gnomefreak> zspada15: do you want a text installer or do you want no GUI after install
[08:34] <breadmachine> jrib: yes
[08:34] <cwillu> breadmachine: you said that synaptic worked fine too, but not irc? (!?)
[08:35] <zspada15> i want just a text installer
[08:35] <breadmachine> cwillu: yup
[08:35] <twb> zspada15: ah, then all you need is the "alternate" cd.
[08:35] <Gasten> kitche: yes, but if I want to use it Ihave to know its name, right?
[08:35] <gnomefreak> zspada15: use the alternative installer
[08:35] <h4v0k> twb, mkdir: cannot create directory `~./fonts': No such file or directory
[08:35] <gnomefreak> cd
[08:35] <zspada15> where do i obtain that?
[08:35] <gnomefreak> alternative cd
[08:35] <twb> h4v0k: mkdir ~/.fonts
[08:35] <cwillu> breadmachine: which irc client were you using?
[08:35] <twb> h4v0k: please pay attention
[08:35] <gnomefreak> zspada15: ubuntu.com
[08:35] <kitche> Gasten: no look up shell scripts system information and you might be able to find it
[08:35] <breadmachine> cwillu: xchat
[08:35] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[08:35] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[08:35] <cwillu> breadmachine: also, do you know if you had to set a proxy or something under xp?
[08:35] <gnomefreak> grrrr
[08:36] <kalosaurusrex> what file can I edit to configure my gnome screensaver from ssh?
[08:36] <Gasten> kitche: ok. thanks.
[08:36] <breadmachine> cwillu: no proxy, it all uses DHCP
[08:36] <twb> kalosaurusrex: ~/.xscreensaverrc, it used to be.
[08:36] <K^Holtz> h4v0k: lsmod lists ide_cd cdrom and ide_disk .. not sure if that helps
[08:36] <twb> kalosaurusrex: it might be different now.
[08:36] <cwillu> breadmachine: did it work if you pinged, say google.com, to get the ip address, and entered the ip address in the address bar of firefox?
[08:36] <] GoldenDragon> hmm, i'm having a problem with my sound... i can only hear sound from one application, for example if i was watching a movie on totem, and an event occured in GAIM which is supposed to play sound, it wont play.
[08:36] <breadmachine> cwillu: the only other thing i can think of is that it might not be liking my pppoa configuration
[08:37] <tailsfan> :(
[08:37] <breadmachine> cwillu: that was a no go either
[08:37] <kitche> ] GoldenDragon: you need to tweak alsa a bit to play more then two sounds
[08:37] <] GoldenDragon> how so?
[08:37] <twb> K^Holtz: what does this print?
[08:37] <twb> K^Holtz: for i in a b c d; do eject /dev/hd$i && echo /dev/hd$i; done
[08:37] <hcjc92> what command is used to run xdm?
[08:37] <cwillu> breadmachine: try doing a "nslookup google.ca" from the terminal, and tell me if it shows any errors or warnings
[08:37] <twb> hcjc92: /etc/init.d/xdm start
[08:37] <mixer-> how do I check hard disk capacity in linux ?
[08:37] <tailsfan> how do I tweak alsa
[08:37] <tailsfan> maybe that can help me with my prob
[08:38] <eigenlambda> firefox crashed allot and its annoying.  dunno y it crashes, its very inconsistent, so
[08:38] <breadmachine> cwillu: ok, it will require a logoff, but ill do that
[08:38] <mixer-> nelrg
[08:38] <jrib> mixer-: df -h
[08:38] <mixer-> jmer
[08:38] <mixer-> thakns
[08:38] <twb> mixer-: cat /sys/block/hda/size
[08:38] <Foobal> gondenwombat: enable esd?
[08:38] <Jowi> hcjc92: if xdm is installed it should run automatically at boot, unless you still have gdm installed.
[08:38] <cwillu> breadmachine: np, /msg me when you get back so I notice
[08:38] <tailsfan> Tried to enable it, but nothing
[08:38] <mixer-> the windowsxp partitions are under which dir ?
[08:38] <breadmachine> cwillu: np, thanks man
[08:38] <tailsfan> If it helps, I'm using a sound card called a ESS audiodrive
[08:39] <hcjc92> can xdm be config'ed to have a graphic login? or is that only gdm?
[08:39] <Jowi> hcjc92: xdm is graphical
[08:39] <meow> hello
[08:39] <hcjc92> well, when i start up, i have a terminal with computer login:
[08:39] <Pupeno> Hello.
[08:39] <Jowi> hcjc92: then xdm has not started.
[08:39] <twb> Pupeno: yo.
[08:40] <hcjc92> then why didn't it? lol, i don't have gdm or kdm
[08:40] <Pupeno> Trying to aplay ubuntu Sax.ogg I get the error: "aplay: main:544: audio open error: Invalid argument". Any ideas what can be causing it ? other programs like amarok and alsaplayer seem to play but no audio can be heard.
[08:40] <kristian> !azuerus
[08:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about azuerus
[08:40] <Jowi> hcjc92: login at the text prompt, then type "sudo apt-get install xdm"
[08:40] <twb> Pupeno: is the sound turned all the way down?  alsamixer
[08:40] <mc__> !azereus
[08:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about azereus
[08:40] <] GoldenDragon> what would I have to mess with to allow more than one app to play sounds?
[08:40] <Pupeno> twb: all volumes are up, all.
[08:40] <hcjc92> oh....
[08:40] <Psychobudgie> !azureus
[08:40] <meow> I'm trying to install ubuntu dapper on a acer 4602wlmi, well using standard cd the live shows me a black screen, I've installed by alternate cd but when it starts in X it fails with black screen (ati driver) then I used vesa but it doesn't support 1280x800 now I'm working at 1024x768 but it's so ugly, how I can resolve that?
[08:40] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[08:41] <tailsfan> It seems likes every1 is having sound probs with Ubuntu
[08:41] <Foobal> goldenwombat: just neable the esd from preferences-> sound
[08:41] <cwillu> ~azeurus
[08:41] <stefg> hcjc92: Just to make sure:  startx brings you to a X-desktop, so the Xserver is configured?
[08:41] <K^Holtz> twb: hdc ejects my cd rom.. a cant be ejected cause its my hard drive, it says hdd isnt found  and neither is hdb
[08:41] <cwillu> :p
[08:41] <Pupeno> twb: but aplay doesn't even start, so, there's a deeper problem.
[08:41] <Psychobudgie> :-P
[08:41] <hcjc92> startx brings up fluxbox (like i told it to)
[08:41] <] GoldenDragon> goldenwombat?
[08:41] <Jowi> hcjc92: then all you need to do is to install xdm
[08:41] <tailsfan> ESD - Enlightenment Sound Daemon: Could not establish connection to sound server
[08:41] <babis85> hello, i want to configure my printer via the cups but when it prompts me to log in it doesn't accept my login. Any idea please?
[08:41] <twb> K^Holtz: OK, so now we know that hdc is your burner, that it was detected correctly and that it's and ATA/IDE drive.
[08:41] <hcjc92> brb
[08:42] <stefg> hcjc92: you could try a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xdm
[08:42] <hcjc92> i need to stop flux
[08:42] <twb> K^Holtz: you can burn ISO images using "cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc foo.iso" as root.
[08:42] <K^Holtz> twb: no, hdc is my cdrom drive
[08:42] <durin42> I'm having some problems with X11 forwarding over ssh - it works from my mac to my freebsd machine, but not from the mac to the ubuntu machine. Can anyone point me at why that might be?
[08:42] <twb> K^Holtz: you have a burner and a cd-rom?
[08:42] <K^Holtz> twb: i have a cdrom and a burner seperate
[08:42] <K^Holtz> twb: its an older pc
[08:42] <twb> K^Holtz: I see.
[08:42] <kimo> durin42: check sshd config on ur ubuntu
[08:42] <Jowi> durin42: so you login like "ssh user@host -X"?
[08:43] <twb> K^Holtz: do you know if it's a SCSI or an ATA/IDE burner?
[08:43] <K^Holtz> twb: i dont think the burner is being recognized at all
[08:43] <durin42> Jowi: yes
[08:43] <Commander-Crowe> ok guys
[08:43] <Commander-Crowe> I gotta reinstall grub
[08:43] <h4v0k> twb, now how do i move the font to this directory
[08:43] <Knome> meow if you have an intel graphic chipset try using the package: 915resolution
[08:43] <K^Holtz> twb: its conneted just like my cdrom so im assuming its ATA/IDE
[08:43] <twb> h4v0k: drag and drop it.
[08:43] <twb> K^Holtz: OK.
[08:43] <meow> Knome, no I'v an ati
[08:43] <h4v0k> twb, k
[08:43] <durin42> kimo: I've got X11Forwarding yes set in the sshd config
[08:43] <twb> h4v0k: I'm assuming these are .ttf fonts.
[08:44] <hcjc92> okay, xdm isnt running at start up...
[08:44] <twb> durin42: it should be in ssh_config, not sshd_config (I think)
[08:44] <Jowi> durin42: in /etc/ssh/sshd_config make sure that "X11Forwarding yes" is set
[08:44] <Commander-Crowe> how do I reinstall grub with knoppix?
[08:44] <SlyGuy> anyone have a problem with native widescreen resolution showing up? i can't select anything above 1024x768
[08:44] <hcjc92> whats the command xpkg-reconfigure?
[08:44] <Kazukisan> How do i remove glib-2.10.0 Version that ubuntu has installed, i have 2.12.0 installed and if i try to remove with SPM then it wants me to remove a bunch of other programs i just want to get rid of 2.10 ????
[08:44] <durin42> Jowi: it's there
[08:44] <twb> hcjc92: run "/var/lib/dpkg/info/xdm.postinst configure"
[08:44] <webben> Just trying to upgrade my old Hoary to Dapper here. Which genius made the Install window impossible to fit on a very low resolution screen?
[08:44] <kimo> durin42: ssh mac2ubuntu ? or ubuntu2mac
[08:44] <someothernick> Help plz, When i put a cd or dvd in my drive Ubuntu freezes. Is there a way to fix this?
[08:44] <Jowi> durin42: have you tried to restart the ssh server?
[08:45] <durin42> kimo: ssh mac2ubuntu
[08:45] <twb> webben: try aptitude instead, then.
[08:45] <tailsfan> webben: what resolution are you using now/
[08:45] <durin42> Jowi: no, not yet, I've not changed teh settings
[08:45] <Pupeno> so, no idea why sound is not working ?
[08:45] <webben> twb: oh i want to do a fresh install
[08:45] <durin42> s/teh/the/
[08:45] <twb> durin42: do you have an X server running on the Mac?
[08:45] <kimo> durin42: ok check sshd_config in ubuntu & use 'ssh -X user@host'
[08:45] <durin42> twb: yes
[08:45] <durin42> kimo: I'm *doing* that
[08:45] <durin42> twb: like I said, x11 forwarding works when I go mac->freebsd
[08:45] <kimo> durin42: when u login into ubuntu do, 'echo $DISPLAY'
[08:45] <webben> my resolution is 1024 x whatever
[08:46] <tailsfan> Pupeno: talking to me?
[08:46] <twb> durin42: you could try using xhost + and setting DISPLAY to see if you can get through at all.
[08:46] <K^Holtz> twb: so am i out of luck?
[08:46] <durin42> kimo: it is empty
[08:46] <twb> K^Holtz: I don't know.
[08:46] <kimo> durin42: then it's ssh not forwarding
[08:46] <twb> K^Holtz: I'd ask your local LUG for help.
[08:46] <babis85> any help please for my question?
[08:46] <durin42> kimo: but why?
[08:46] <webben> is it possible to run a graphical installer without loading up live cd desktop?
[08:46] <Jowi> hcjc92: does /etc/init.d/xdm exist?
[08:46] <twb> webben: get the "alternate" cd.
[08:46] <cwillu> twb, that's not graphical :p
[08:46] <twb> Bah.
[08:47] <K^Holtz> twb: LUG?
[08:47] <webben> the old graphical installer ran beautifully
[08:47] <twb> GUIs are for wimps and little girls.
[08:47] <oskude> !cli
[08:47] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:47] <twb> K^Holtz: Linux User Group.
[08:47] <Pupeno> tailsfan: if you know how to fix my sound, yes, otherwise, no ;)
[08:47] <cwillu> webben: sure you don't mean the text mode install?
[08:47] <h4v0k> twb, i found the ttf file will it work to type in the info and create a new font
[08:47] <Knome> !fixfres > meow
[08:47] <twb> K^Holtz: what province, country are you in?
[08:47] <webben> cwillu: nope
[08:47] <hcjc92> jowi yeah, and /var/lib/dpkg/info.xdm.postinst configure says: "System startup links for /etc/initd/xdm already exist
[08:47] <kristian> How do i remove Azuerus? sudo apt-get remove azuerus?
[08:47] <twb> h4v0k: all you have to do is drop the .ttf in ~/.fonts and restart gaim.
[08:47] <webben> cwillu: definitely mean the nice old graphical installer
[08:47] <durin42> kimo: will it matter that X11 isn't installed on ubuntu?
[08:47] <tailsfan> Pupeno: I'm having sound problems too
[08:47] <K^Holtz> twb: USA..
[08:47] <tailsfan> It will not detect my sound card
[08:48] <twb> K^Holtz: what state?
[08:48] <cwillu> webben: well, you could use an old cd and then run a net upgrade
[08:48] <webben> is it gone? has it been entirely replaced?
[08:48] <K^Holtz> twb: USA, PA
[08:48] <cwillu> webben: believe so
[08:48] <twb> K^Holtz: pennsylvania?
[08:48] <h4v0k> twb, yes i understand so where do i find the /.fonts folder
[08:48] <webben> bother
[08:48] <cwillu> webben: too much work supporting effectively three installers :)
[08:48] <twb> h4v0k: you make it.
[08:48] <someothernick> webben: the old graphical installer is text. so use the alt cd
[08:48] <h4v0k> twb, i did
[08:48] <twb> h4v0k: mkdir ~/.fonts; nautilus --no-desktop ~/.fonts
[08:48] <Jowi> hcjc92: try this "sudo ln -s /etc/rc2.d/S13xdm /etc/init.d/xdm" (make sure the uppercase characters are typed correctly)
[08:48] <kimo> durin42: it may (not sure) I think it requires xauth may be ... did u check /var/log/messages ?
[08:48] <K^Holtz> twb: yes
[08:48] <zambaboo> guys what happened to raidtools package?
[08:48] <twb> K^Holtz: ok, one moment.
[08:48] <webben> so i can't run a text install from the "Desktop" CD?
[08:49] <h4v0k> twb,  then when i did whereis it gave me like a hundred directories
[08:49] <twb> K^Holtz: how about http://www.wplug.org/
[08:49] <cwillu> webben: you're looking for the alternative cd
[08:49] <Pupeno> my sound was working yesterday... today, it sudenly stopped working.
[08:49] <Sub> webben, you need the alternative install cd
[08:49] <twb> K^Holtz: also http://cplug.net/
[08:49] <Kazukisan> How do i remove glib-2.10.0 Version that ubuntu has installed, i have 2.12.0 installed and if i try to remove with SPM then it wants me to remove a bunch of other programs i just want to get rid of 2.10 ????
[08:49] <Commander-Crowe> no one?
[08:49] <Commander-Crowe> no one?
[08:49] <Commander-Crowe> no one?
[08:49] <yanis_> how do I change my ip using the command line?
[08:49] <webben> hmm... i wonder if i can force the live cd to recognise that my screen isn't as rubbish as it thinks it is
[08:49] <tailsfan> Well mine's ins't working at all ever since Day 1
[08:49] <twb> K^Holtz: http://google.com/search?q=%22linux+user+group%22+pennsylvania
[08:49] <Moocasso> Does anybody know if there's a C compiler built in to Ubuntu?  Or is there one in Synaptic I can use?
[08:50] <stefg> !build
[08:50] <chowells> Moocasso: gcc
[08:50] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:50] <tailsfan> Will upgrading ALSA work?
[08:50] <twb> K^Holtz: go to one of their meets, and there will be people who can help you better because they can see the machine and try things quickly.
[08:50] <shae2liberty> hi, im installing ubuntu 5.04 server on my pc and it seems to be stuck on testing network repository
[08:50] <Moocasso> ty
[08:50] <Jowi> Commander-Crowe: no one what? how did the "default value" go?
[08:50] <hcjc92> jowi: "ln: creating symbolic link '/etc/init.d/xdm' to '/etc.rc2.d/S13xdm' : file existis"
[08:50] <Commander-Crowe> It messed everything up
[08:50] <Commander-Crowe> I can't get into XP or Ubuntu
[08:50] <Commander-Crowe> now how do i change it back
[08:51] <Jowi> hcjc92: can you start xdm manually? "sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start"?
[08:51] <Commander-Crowe> use recovery mode?
[08:51] <twb> hcjc92: can you start X at all?
[08:51] <Pupeno> shae2liberty: eventually, it'll time out... there's a new version of ubuntu though.
[08:51] <shae2liberty> hi, im installing ubuntu 5.04 server on my pc and it seems to be stuck on testing network repository
[08:51] <Commander-Crowe> or a knoppix livecd
[08:51] <K^Holtz> twb: none are exactly local.. what do u need to know in order to help me over irc?
[08:51] <hcjc92> yeah, i startx i get into flux
[08:51] <oskude> !enter
[08:51] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:51] <twb> K^Holtz: I can't.
[08:51] <sil3nt|warri0r> hello all
[08:51] <twb> K^Holtz: it's too difficult and I'm too lazy.
[08:51] <hcjc92> and if i start xdm manualy the thing comes up, i login , nad then fluxbox start
[08:51] <shae2liberty> i know there is but i have no copy of the new one
[08:51] <synth> What kernel does the latest release of Ubuntu use?  I want to know if I can install onto a drive on an adaptec 140SA card, which apparently 2.6.16 is where it works
[08:51] <tailsfan> !alsa
[08:51] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:51] <hcjc92> but xdm isn't starting on startup
[08:51] <synth> s/140/1420/
[08:51] <tailsfan> !ubotu alsa
[08:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu alsa
[08:51] <Pupeno> shae2liberty: even then I'd recommend you to put one to download.
[08:51] <Jowi> Commander-Crowe: recovery or knoppix, both will work fine. I wonder what you typed wrong. maybe you should post your menu.lst file in the pastebin...
[08:52] <Pupeno> !sound
[08:52] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:52] <AT> cwillu: gotta go now, thanks for trying though :)
[08:52] <kimo> durin42: http://www.openssh.com/faq.html#2.7
[08:52] <twb> hcjc92: what runlevel are you in at boot?
[08:52] <hcjc92> twb: dunno ?
[08:52] <shae2liberty> i actualy dont have enough bandwith left this month lol, 200mb untill the 12th of july
[08:52] <Commander-Crowe> Jowi: I changed Ubuntu from savedefault to default 0
[08:52] <sil3nt|warri0r> i install windows on my box which has already ubuntu installed
[08:53] <twb> hcjc92: what does "runlevel" print?
[08:53] <Commander-Crowe> Jowi: and XP from savedefault to default 1
[08:53] <sil3nt|warri0r> now the boot screen only shows windows
[08:53] <sil3nt|warri0r> no ubuntu option
[08:53] <hcjc92> twb: N 2
[08:53] <sil3nt|warri0r> any one help plz
[08:53] <Foobal> shae2liberty: pretty sucky internet connection you've got there :) some of us have got some 3 terabytes/motnh limit, ol
[08:53] <sil3nt|warri0r> :(
[08:53] <oskude> Commander-Crowe, why did you do that ?
[08:53] <twb> hcjc92: then xdm should start on boot, and I'm stumped.
[08:53] <Commander-Crowe> thats what they told me to do
[08:53] <stefg> !grub > sil3nt|warri0r
[08:53] <shae2liberty> i live in ireland, i have a 10mbps upload satalight but im moving house so its packed up in a box untill i move
[08:53] <hcjc92> let me restart and make sure (i dont think it will, but)
[08:53] <oskude> Commander-Crowe, omg...
[08:54] <synth> can anyone tell me what kernel the new ubuntu uses?? please? uname -a is all it takes if you have a fresh install
[08:54] <synth> i have no access right now
[08:54] <shae2liberty> satalite*
[08:54] <Commander-Crowe> I wanted Ubuntu as Default
[08:54] <Commander-Crowe> not XP
[08:54] <Commander-Crowe> KNoppix says I can't write to /boot/grub/
[08:54] <oskude> Commander-Crowe, savedefault != default, so you should not have overwrittem them...
[08:54] <Jowi> Commander-Crowe: ah, you changed the wrong line(s). you do *not* change the values in the lines that are connected to the boot entries themselves. at the *top* of the file you will have a single line that say "default somevalue" you only change that one. should be like line number 10 or something.
[08:54] <Commander-Crowe> I saved a backup just in case
[08:55] <cwillu> Commander-Crowe: yay!  :)
[08:55] <webben> ah ... looks like "safe graphics" mode actually picked up my resolution properly ... how weird... oh well at least i might actually be able to click an OK button now
[08:55] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[08:55] <Commander-Crowe> what do I change it too?
[08:55] <oskude> Commander-Crowe, default can only be once in that file and it says which menu point will be default, so "default 2" would use the 2nd menu point as default...
[08:55] <sil3nt|warri0r> stefg: thx man, but is not there any option to make windows boot loader boot from linux partition
[08:55] <breadmachine> cwillu: im back
[08:56] <cwillu> hey there
[08:56] <cwillu> any luck?
[08:56] <Commander-Crowe> oh I see
[08:56] <shae2liberty> ok im having a weird network problem now, it is setup and downloading at 250b per second
[08:56] <Commander-Crowe> I got it
[08:56] <stefg> sil3nt|warri0r: you missed something about the concept of bootloaders...
[08:56] <h4v0k> twi did it but its not listed in gaim
[08:56] <oskude> Commander-Crowe, you have to mount from knoppix the partition where the ubuntu menu.lst is and rechange the changes you made
[08:56] <breadmachine> cwillu: nslookup on 10 different sites, including google.ca, all said "non authoritative answer:" and the ip[ of each site 5 times
[08:56] <Jowi> Commander-Crowe: At the top of the menu.lst you will even have a description of what options you have. Numbering starts from zero. if Ubuntu is first and Windows is third and you want Ubuntu to be default then 0 is the value to use.
[08:57] <cwillu> shae2liberty: what do you mean?  that's blazingly fast :p
[08:57] <hcjc92> twb: sweet it worked right! i don't know what was wrong but YaY
[08:57] <shae2liberty> i said b per second not kb
[08:57] <cwillu> breadmachine: okay, that's fine;  no extra warnings or anything then?
[08:57] <shae2liberty> i dont know whats wrong, i think it setup via dhcp
[08:57] <breadmachine> cwillu:nope
[08:57] <shae2liberty> all i can download at is 1kbps :/
[08:57] <oskude> bits or bytes ?
[08:58] <oskude> bytes = 8 x bits
[08:58] <oskude> eeh, 1 byte = 8bits
[08:58] <synth> i remember VMS, 7 bit bytes
[08:58] <synth> that was the funny.
[08:59] <cwillu> synth, to say nothing of the lisp machines
[08:59] <dcordero> hi
[08:59] <someothernick> hi
[08:59] <synth> cwillu: oh man, but once you grasp lisp it is the neatest thing
[09:00] <synth> cwillu: i know national airplane booking systems that depend on lisp as their backbone for their systems
[09:00] <hcjc92> is there a good chance that if i have like 3 partitions on 1 disk, and i split on in half, the other 2 will still be okay, or will they get fried?
[09:00] <sil3nt|warri0r> stefg: i mean i dont want to reinstall grub, but want to dual boot using windows boot loader
[09:00] <synth> the guy that wrote it is a freaking guru, he practically levitates
[09:00] <cwillu> synth: been reading paul graham have we?  :p
[09:00] <synth> cwillu: who?>
[09:00] <shae2liberty> anyone have any idea how i can fix this?
[09:00] <ideogram> what's the easiest way to completely turn off my gnome desktop and replace it with sawfish?
[09:00] <dcordero> i am trying to hide in gnome/nautilus the thumbs.db the my windows make. Someone know how to do that?
[09:00] <stefg> sil3nt|warri0r: this is possible, but asks this in #windows
[09:00] <synth> cwillu: i dont read much cept for perl help files ;D
[09:00] <oskude> hcjc92, the partitions will propably be ok, but the data may get lost if they are not "defragmented"
[09:01] <faisal_d> who can help me with an ubntu live display problem?
[09:01] <sil3nt|warri0r> oKtosiTe, thx man for ur help
[09:01] <oskude> !ask
[09:01] <cwillu> synth: orbitz, right?  paul graham is pretty much the canonical definition of a lisp freak :)
[09:01] <Jowi> hcjc92: depends. if you split the last partition you should be ok. if you split the middle or the first one then your partition order might be changed.
[09:01] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:01] <shae2liberty> !network
[09:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about network
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[09:01] <breadmachine> cwillu: im aggrivated
[09:01] <shae2liberty> !networking
[09:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about networking
[09:01] <synth> cwillu: no, its someone else, entirely
[09:01] <faisal_d> i'm trying to boot ubntu live, Dapper just hangs, and hoary gives problems about frequence being out of range. what can i do to boot it?
[09:01] <synth> cwillu: thats funny
[09:01] <_bt> how can i make ubuntu list colours in the shell for different files...(executable, directories), etc
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[09:02] <asshole> Please help me ! :D
[09:02] <LoRez> Warning: `asshole' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[09:02] <asshole> Please help me ! :D
[09:02] <synth> cwillu: I used to work at miami intl airport
[09:02] <cwillu> breadmachine: me too;  I was looking for a nice easy to fix problem :)
[09:02] <asshole> Please help me ! :D
[09:02] <jrib> !ops
[09:02] <saik0> !ops
[09:02] <asshole> Please help me ! :D
[09:02] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[09:02] <synth> oh what lovely trolling
[09:02] <asshole> Please help me ! :D
[09:02] <asshole> Please help me ! :D
[09:02] <synth> Please kick me! :D
[09:02] <hcjc92> jowi: crap i think my swap space is partion #5... wiat, does the # of them matter, or the acctually order?
[09:02] <synth> (not ME)
[09:02] <cwillu> don't worry, never lasts long :)
[09:02] <asshole> Please help me ! :D
[09:02] <asshole> Please help me ! :D
[09:02] <shae2liberty> how do i manually set me network variables
[09:03] <_bt> i will repeat now spamming has stopped
[09:03] <breadmachine> cwillu: well, hopefully i can figure this out, its odd, ive installed ubuntu before, with no problems whatsoever in regards to the internet
[09:03] <cwillu> breadmachine: don't suppose you have a second machine handy?
[09:03] <_bt> how can i make ubuntu list colours in the shell for different files...(executable, directories), etc
[09:03] <shae2liberty> FUCK OFF ASSHOLE people are actualy trying to get help in here
[09:03] <Amaranth> Seveas: once more and we do +r
[09:03] <Sub> shae2liberty, system-admin-networking
[09:03] <cwillu> breadmachine: does the live cd work okay?
[09:03] <shae2liberty> thanks sub
[09:03] <babis85> does anyone know why the gaim instant messenger dies after i am logging in?
[09:03] <faisal_d> i'm trying to boot ubntu live, Dapper just hangs, and hoary gives problems about frequence being out of range. what can i do to boot it?
[09:03] <Jowi> hcjc92: well, if your partition order change then grub might fail to boot the system. only way to check is to "fdisk -l" before and after the changes' been made.
[09:03] <jrib> babis85: run it from a terminal and see if you get any output
[09:03] <Jowi> s/only/one
[09:03] <Amaranth> Seveas: oh, you banned the wrong person first, i thought they were changing IPs :P
[09:04] <breadmachine> cwillu, the live cd works just fine...
 : choose to boot on rescue mode
[09:04] <Amaranth> Seveas: err, he wasn't a troll
[09:04] <hcjc92> well, the partition with ubuntu is #1 and the next is a huge fat32 partions and then swap, if the swap gets messup does it matter?
[09:04] <Seveas> Amaranth, no, that one said "kick me", and i do what I'm told
[09:04] <cwillu> breadmachine: hmm
[09:04] <faisal_d> babis85, thank you.. but then what?
[09:04] <Amaranth> lmao
[09:04] <Seveas> and "FUCK OFF ASSHOLE" is enough for a ban
[09:04] <cwillu> you installed from it?
[09:04] <oskude> faisal_d, if you have old drives that dont support DMA, try boot option "ide=nodma"
[09:04] <breadmachine> cwillu: how important to internet usage is a swap file?
 probably then you can load Ubuntu
[09:05] <cwillu> breadmachine: depends on the machine;  but generally I would set one up unless you're looking for adventure :)
[09:05] <Ireclan> Should I install Ubuntu, or Kubuntu?
[09:05] <hcjc92> jowi: /dev/sda1 linux /dev/sda2 extended /dev/sda4 w95 fat32 /dev/sda5 linux swap
[09:05] <cwillu> breadmachine: firefox is a bit on the memory hungry side :/
[09:05] <synth> harrrrrr ;D
[09:05] <Jowi> hcjc92: and which one do you plan to split?
[09:05] <Amaranth> synth: lmao
[09:05] <hcjc92> the fat32
[09:05] <breadmachine> cwillu: well, im on a developer monster box, completely custom
[09:05] <Moocasso> Okay, so I'm having trouble compiling a program.  The instructions in the INSTALL file is to us 'su -' first to become root, then type 'make install' which yields and error message, 'checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:05] <Moocasso> See `config.log' for more details.
[09:05] <Moocasso> make: *** No rule to make target `install.sh'.  Stop.'  Any ideas?
[09:05] <oskude> Ireclan, they are both "same", just kubuntu has kde instead od gnome
[09:06] <breadmachine> cwillu, is it possible to create a swap file after a linux install, say with partition magic?
[09:06] <cwillu> breadmachine: well, I'd suggest setting up a swap just to make sure it's not a problem, but on the other hand, the live cd works fine you say
[09:06] <Amaranth> Moocasso: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:06] <Jowi> hcjc92: you should be fine if you deactivate your swap in /etc/fstab
[09:06] <cwillu> breadmachine: might want to just investigate using a swap file
 it gets segmentation fault and that it is not my fault.
[09:06] <synth> Amaranth: a literal response ;)
[09:06] <signalvsnoise> does anybody know if ubuntu backported some of the changes in the PCMCIA stuff in the kernel from 2.6.16 to 2.6.15-25?
[09:06] <Moocasso> thankyou :)
[09:06] <cwillu> breadmachine: you installed via the livecd installer?
[09:06] <hcjc92> Jowi, how do i turn of swap?
[09:06] <Ireclan> So, are there any major pros or cons to using either one? Is one more stable than the other?
[09:07] <jrib> babis85: is this the gaim from the repositories?
[09:07] <oskude> Ireclan, and before you ask, kde and gnome are window managers, so they differ in look and feel, but the "heart" is the same _ubuntu_ (debian;)
[09:07] <gdb> signalvsnoise: There have been no packported features added to 2.6.15.
[09:07] <breadmachine> cwillu: nope, via official bootable cd
[09:07] <gdb> backported*
[09:07] <Sub> signalvsnoise, i dont know, but pcmcia works great here.
 yes it is
[09:07] <vorbote> -part
[09:07] <Seveas> gdb, rubbish
[09:07] <gdb> hcjc92: $ sudo swapoff /path/to/swapfile/or/dev/entry
[09:07] <cwillu> breadmachine: livecd == main cd for dapper, did you use that, or the alternative cd (text mode install?)
[09:07] <jrib> babis85: if you rename ~/.gaim and try again, does it still happen?
[09:07] <Jowi> hcjc92: just comment out (put a # in front of the line) the entry that has "swap" in it in /etc/fstab. "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[09:07] <Seveas> Ubuntu 2.6.15 has many 2.6.16 patches
[09:07] <oskude> Ireclan, ubuntu is the "official" project, kubuntu is a community project, based on ubuntu...
[09:08] <Jowi> hcjc92: then the swap will not be active next time you reboot.
[09:08] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[09:08] <Commander-Crowe> I got it all to work now
it says that maybe in the cvs version there is not that bug
[09:08] <gdb> Seveas: Ok, cool.  I was just going by what I've seen on ubuntu-users and the forums when people ask about backports from 2.6.16.  They're told "no."
[09:08] <Commander-Crowe> all is fine
[09:08] <Commander-Crowe> and Ubuntu is defualt
[09:08] <tribalfuse> i need to ssh a server with SSL i am unable to do with the usual ssh sitename.com -l username
[09:08] <Commander-Crowe> default*
[09:08] <jrib> babis85: who says?
[09:08] <oskude> Ireclan, and you can allso install kubuntu in ubuntu, and viceversa :)
[09:08] <tribalfuse> any idea?
[09:08] <breadmachine> cwillu: im thinking you be a lil to advanced for me, im using hoary, it cam with a live CD AND bootable install
[09:08] <Jowi> nice going Commander-Crowe
[09:08] <cwillu> ahhh
[09:08] <Seveas> gdb, then they don't know how the ubuntu kernel team works 
[09:08] <cwillu> sorry, confused you with somebody else running dapper
[09:08] <synth> I hope ubuntu will boot off this adaptec 1420sa
[09:08] <Commander-Crowe> now
[09:08] <roy_> hey, can someone send me your /etc/init.d/apache2 file?
[09:08] <Commander-Crowe> next thing
[09:08] <roy_> I deleted mine
[09:08] <gdb> Seveas: Which is entirely possible!  I admit that I don't. :-)
[09:09] <kitche> huh what do you mean tribalfuse?
[09:09] <Commander-Crowe> what do i need to install
[09:09] <cwillu> breadmachine: on that note, any desire to try the dapper install then?
[09:09] <Seveas> !enter > Commander-Crowe
[09:09] <Commander-Crowe> in order to get mp3's and music cds to work
[09:09] <Commander-Crowe> oh
[09:09] <jrib> !mp3 > Commander-Crowe
[09:09] <cwillu> breadmachine: or is the download a bit heavy?
the bug
[09:09] <faisal_d> babis85: sorry, but how do you boot into rescue mode from a live cd?
[09:09] <Commander-Crowe> and apt-get won't work due to that computer doesn't have internet
[09:09] <hcjc92> jowi: how do i make a mount point?
[09:09] <breadmachine> cwillu: aint got the time for that, i cant really wait for the download of the live CD and dont want to wait a month to get one mailed
[09:10] <cwillu> fair enough
i rename ~/.gaim and i get segmentation again
[09:10] <breadmachine> cwillu: its not a download issue, ive got gobs of bandwidth
[09:10] <tribalfuse> kitche, ok i'll put in dumb terminology i'm used to... you get a SSH stamp or something... when you connect right to a secured server? well my putty client works fine and using terminal i am yet unable to SSH
[09:10] <Commander-Crowe> anyone
[09:10] <Commander-Crowe> is it w32
[09:10] <jrib> babis85: does 'gaim -d' give you something more meaningful?
[09:10] <Commander-Crowe> w32codec?
[09:10] <Ireclan> So, if I installed Ubuntu, then installed the K Desktop environment, I'd have Kubuntu?
[09:10] <Jowi> hcjc92: a mountpoint for what?
[09:10] <hcjc92> my really big fat32 partition i want to make sure its empty
[09:10] <kitche> tribalfuse: hmm sounds like the other machien doesn't have the openssh server running
[09:11] <Foobal> ireclan : if you installed "kubuntu-desktop"
[09:11] <Sub> is 40 fps a good score in glxgears?
[09:11] <tribalfuse> kitche, nah it has OpenSSH running already
[09:11] <cwillu> breadmachine: just sucks that you have to reboot to try anything
[09:11] <Sub> for a laptop about 3-4 years old?
[09:11] <kimo> Sub: no
[09:11] <Jowi> hcjc92: with "mkdir" you create a directory. then you mount the device to that directory
[09:11] <Pupeno> Is there such a thing as a sound-card config somewhere (that I could copy to my HD if the Live CD just works) ?
[09:11] <Sub> the trident driver is so crappy.....
[09:11] <tribalfuse> i can do using putty... but from the terminal it doesnt work
[09:11] <sil3nt|warri0r> !grub
[09:11] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:11] <gdb> Ireclan: You'd have a combination of both. ;-)  If you were to install kubuntu-desktop and then followed the "Pure KDE" instructions at http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde.php it would be "Pure Kubuntu". ;-)
[09:11] <breadmachine> cwillu: ive been reading up, and theres a chance i can create a swap file after install of hoary using partition magic from XP
[09:11] <cwillu> breadmachine: i.e., I'd be curious to know if firefox or ubuntu networking thinks it has a proxy set up (I've seen that one before), but I'd hate to make you reboot just for that
[09:11] <hcjc92> but mount /dev/sda4 /media/sda4 didnt' work...
[09:11] <kimo> Sub: yeah .. my builtin intel 915 card gets around 600
[09:12] <oskude> Ireclan, yup, then you would have both gnome and kde, its no problem to install _all_ window manager :)
[09:12] <Commander-Crowe> howdo I install libdvdcss in ubuntu
[09:12] <kitche> tribalfuse: did you just try ssh <user>@<server> maybe it will work then
[09:12] <hcjc92> oops
[09:12] <hcjc92> i got it
[09:12] <jrib> !dvd > Commander-Crowe
[09:12] <Commander-Crowe> I downloaded it already
[09:12] <cwillu> breadmachine: I'm not convinced you should need it though, especially if the live cd works fine
[09:12] <hcjc92> good empty
[09:12] <Sub> kimo, must be an issue with the trident driver....
[09:12] <stefg> !plf > Commander-Crowe
[09:12] <jrib> !deb > Commander-Crowe
[09:12] <Commander-Crowe> tried to compile it
[09:12] <hcjc92> well, i'm gonna fdisk my big fat, br
[09:12] <babis85> jrib:maybe is that g_log: gaim_base64_decode: assertion `text != NULL' failed???
[09:12] <pianoboy3333> Is there something special to do for make on a machine with hyperthreading?
[09:12] <cwillu> breadmachine: here's a question:  does wget work?
[09:12] <kitche> or try this tribalfuse ssh into your localhost to make sure
[09:13] <Ireclan> So, does Kubuntu have anything Ubuntu doesn't have (besides the K Desktop Environment)?
[09:13] <breadmachine> cwillu:god, you would have to ask that, wouldnt you...
[09:13] <gdb> pianoboy3333: How do you mean?  Special to do with make(1) or to "make hyperthreading work?"
[09:13] <oskude> Ireclan, and the kde tools and libs
[09:13] <shae> howdo i setup networking manually with ubuntu server
[09:13] <tribalfuse> kitche, i get an error with the last sentence being "Host key verification failed."
[09:13] <Commander-Crowe> where is a good place to get .deb files?
[09:13] <oskude> Ireclan, but as i said, you can install _all_
[09:13] <kitche> tribalfuse ok it seems to me that they are forcing keys
[09:13] <Moocasso> Okay, I tried  sudo apt-get install build-essential, which initially said I had broken packages, so I used Fix Broken Packages in Synaptic which resolved that issue, compiling the program gives the same error mesasge as before, but now  sudo apt-get install build-essential gives me E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/va
[09:13] <pianoboy3333> gdb: like... something for make to take use of hyperthreading
[09:13] <cwillu> breadmachine: is that exasperation, sarcasm or enlightenment?  :p
[09:13] <gdb> Ireclan: No, it's just Ubutnu with all the GNOME software replaced with KDE equivalents.
[09:14] <sil3nt|warri0r> whats the root passwd on ubuntu live cd ??
[09:14] <kitche> tribalfuse: which means the public key needs to be on the ssh server
[09:14] <babis85> faisal_d:choose "startubuntu in safe graphics mode"
[09:14] <jrib> babis85: maybe, I don't know that much about gaim to tell you why though.  try #gaim and let them know what's happening
[09:14] <tribalfuse> kitche, keys exactly :) when i connected from putty it shows a key
[09:14] <jrib> !sudo > sil3nt|warri0r
[09:14] <faisal_d> babis85.. i'm using hoary, and there is no such option
[09:14] <FunnyLookinHat> ubotu, tell Cizz|e about dvd
[09:14] <kitche> tribalfuse: that's the server key but not your key
[09:14] <breadmachine> cwillu: a lil of all three, i need to restart anyway... im gonna just set up a secondary swap file and then ill get back to you on the wget issue
[09:14] <babis85> jrib:thanks a lot
[09:14] <kitche> tribalfuse: think your pub key should be on the server
[09:14] <cwillu> k
[09:14] <gdb> pianoboy3333: To enable hyperthreading, make sure it's enabled in your BIOS and then apt-get install linux-image-686.  The 686 kernel includes SMP support out of the box and will see both virtual processors.
[09:15] <cwillu> breadmachine: if ping works and firefox doesn't, I get deeply suspicious
[09:15] <gdb> pianoboy3333: You can verify by looking at /proc/cpuinfo after you're running the new kernel.
[09:15] <gdb> pianoboy3333: (installing that kernel will require a reboot as well)
[09:15] <oskude> Ireclan, but for first use, i would recommend ubuntu, as it is _the_ ubuntu (kubuntu has allso its own room #kubuntu)
[09:15] <tribalfuse> no other way, without fondling with the server? because it already works from the puttyclient. i just wish i can get it on my terminal
[09:15] <babis85> faisal_d: sorry for the confusion, i didn't notice that. ask again please here, because i can't help you, sorry again
[09:16] <pianoboy3333> gdb: I have the 686 already, I just remember some CXX flag for hyperthreading...
[09:16] <kitche> tribalfuse ah so it works with putty, did you say yes when it asked to add it to your pub_keys?
[09:16] <tribalfuse> yeah
[09:16] <tribalfuse> i just clicked ok, for sure...
[09:16] <tribalfuse> :S
[09:16] <faisal_d> babis85: np m8.. thanx for tyring :)
[09:16] <Eclypse> hey all
[09:16] <Eclypse> anyone know anything about VMWare?
[09:16] <kitche> it should work but the temial you have to put the user then @server
[09:17] <Moocasso> I'm still having trouble compiling a program, I got GCC installed, gave me an error compiling the program, tried  sudo apt-get install build-essential, which initially said I had broken packages, so I used Fix Broken Packages in Synaptic which resolved that issue, compiling the program gives the same error mesasge as before, but now  sudo apt-get install build-essential gives me E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lo
[09:17] <gdb> pianoboy3333: Ah, you mean to make use of SMP in applications you're compiling?  That's beyond my ken.  I believe applications either multi-threaded or their not.  The kernel will take care of scheduling threads per CPU, that's not something an application worries again.
[09:17] <gdb> er worries about
[09:17] <Eclypse> like, I'm running ubuntu under VMware and I was wondering if I could transfer files from my windows desktop to the Ubuntu virtual machine
[09:17] <err0rr> is there an easy way to get the symbols for libc-2.3.6.so for use with oprofile ?
[09:17] <gdb> er I believe applications are either multi-threaded or they're not.
[09:17] <jrib> Moocasso: do you have any apt programs running? synaptic or update-manager maybe?
[09:17] <Moocasso> nevermind, I think I know what to do
[09:17] <err0rr> if libc is installed from the ubuntu .deb
[09:17] <oskude> Moocasso, close synaptics before apt-get ...
[09:17] <kitche> Eclypse with samba but you would need a vfat parition if I m correct
[09:17] <Moocasso> I had Synpatic running, it's telling me broken packages again though so I'm gonna see about fixing it myself
[09:18] <Moocasso> need to install a couple dependencies :P
[09:18] <Ireclan> So, for first time use use Ubuntu. What if I want to make Ubuntu look better in the future? Should I then install KDE?
[09:18] <tribalfuse> kitche, tried failed. already... like i said i get a long error messege of which the last bit makes some sense "Host key verification failed"
[09:18] <Eclypse> kitche hmm... ok, well I would think VMware has such a feture that allows file transfer from one os to the next.
[09:18] <Sacro>  im having a little trouble getting my wiresless card to work, it worked fine through ndiswrapper with Arch Linux, but now im trying Ubuntu with the same drivers, it doesnt appear
[09:18] <Eclypse> kitche, I'll look into that tho, thanks.
[09:18] <jrib> Ireclan: why not try a theme at gnome-look.org first?
[09:18] <gdb> Ireclan: You can make gnome plenty sexy already.  There are various places to get themes from to try out.
[09:18] <oskude> Ireclan, if you want kubuntu in ubuntu, just type "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" (or install from synaptic) and you have kubuntu too
[09:18] <kitche> Eclypse it does but the OSes have to be soemwhat compatible
[09:19] <gdb> Ireclan: jrib has a suggestion for you right there already.
[09:19] <Eclypse> kitche ic. ok, well I'll keep that in mind.
[09:19] <kitche> tribalfuse weird but to me soudns like your client pub key must be on the server
[09:19] <Snurf> How do I install Java Runtime Environment and the mozilla plugin for firefox
[09:20] <webben> I'm running Dapper on a truly ancient machine (PII 750 from 1999 or something) ... is there an up to date guide on getting the best out of Dapper on old machines
[09:20] <tribalfuse> kitche, well ok. i'll talk to my sys admin. thanks anyway :)
[09:20] <oskude> Ireclan, if you have enough space, just install both, you can then select in login scgreen what you want to use (gnome, kde, xfce, etc...)
[09:20] <oskude> Ireclan, just for the support, you may have better cards if you (allso) have ubuntu (gnome) ;)
[09:21] <gdb> Snurf: Enable the Multiverse respository and install the sun-java5-jre, sun-java5-bin, and sun-java5-plugin packages.  Then run "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and select the Sun installation to provide java.  Restart any browsers you have open at the time you installed java.
[09:21] <Snurf> what is the multiverse repository
[09:21] <crashzor> is there anyway to setup ubuntu in a way its a "boot" server ( a server for network booth ) ?
[09:22] <Ireclan> Hmmmmmm.......Thankyou, guys/gals. One last question: Should I print the user guide for Kubuntu AND Ubuntu, or are they both the same? I already have the Ubuntu user guide.
[09:22] <oskude> crashzor, sure. but dunno wheres good docu for that, try wiki and forums (or even google)
[09:22] <Sacro> anyone here using a WPC54G V3 here?
[09:22] <Cntryboy> Anyone know of a simple image editor for kubuntu, not a paint program, just an image editor like gnomes image editor in ubuntu.
[09:23] <Sacro> crashzor: look up tftp, and dhcpd
[09:23] <gdb> Snurf: If you look in /etc/apt/sources.list you'll see some lines there that include "mutiverse" in them.  Uncomment those by removing the # at the beginning of the lines.  Then run "sudo apt-get update" and the above listed install commands.
[09:23] <jrib> Ireclan: I believe they are different, but you can browse them online and make sure at help.ubuntu.com
[09:23] <oskude> Ireclan, as i said, kubuntu (kde) is different look and feel, so yes, they are different in usage
[09:23] <jrib> Cntryboy: gimp
[09:23] <Cntryboy> will gimp work with kubuntu?
[09:23] <Cntryboy> and can i install it through apt-get
[09:23] <jrib> Cntryboy: yep
[09:24] <Cntryboy> isn't gimp a paint program?
[09:24] <Seveas> Amaranth, poke
[09:24] <chaos_of_apocaly> when i used to have windows i listened radio in my pc very well but when i changed to linux i cant..  can anyone explain me how to do it??
[09:24] <Amaranth> Seveas: prod
[09:24] <linuxmaier> this is not technically an ubuntu problem, but could someone tell me how to mover folders over a local area network? i was using sftp to move my files, but i have many and moving folders would be faster.
[09:24] <webben> Snurf: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/DapperGuide#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[09:24] <gdb> Ah, it's more like photoshop than ms paint. ;-)
[09:24] <Seveas> Amaranth, pm
[09:24] <mrtwister> nxserver now up, but cannot start gnome session... help someone :) http://pastebin.ca/81685
[09:25] <tribalfuse> kitche, tried putty-terminal ? i just installed the package... not sure how to use it but. i think this may be a good temporary solution for my "weird solution"
[09:25] <webben> linuxmaier: tar cf yourtar.tar {your files} then gzip -9 {the tar}, then shunt that over sftp
[09:25] <crashzor> Sacro, i gess dhcpd ( is a dhcp server and tftp is a more like a booth server ) right or not ?
[09:25] <cwillu> linuxmaier: I believe you can pass scp or sftp a folder and have it copy everything (you can with scp at least)
[09:25] <LjL> Cntryboy: sure gimp will work under kubuntu. anyway, the closest KDE equivalent to Photoshop/GIMP is Krita, from the KOffice suite
[09:25] <dcordero> i am trying to hide on gnome/nautilus the thumbs.db that my windows xp create for the images. Someone know how to do it?
[09:25] <cwillu> chaos_of_apocaly: have flash installed?
[09:25] <linuxmaier> tribal: didnt think of that. thank you.
[09:25] <LjL> Cntryboy: on the "MS Paint" side, there's KolourPaint
[09:25] <cwillu> chaos_of_apocaly:  I assume you mean like pandora.com and stuff like that
[09:25] <webben> LjL: Krita? interesting, i've never heard of it ... is it any good?
[09:26] <chaos_of_apocaly> pandora.com?? i have a radio and tv card
[09:26] <rockzman> Can someone help me to install my Grass ^.-
[09:26] <Cntryboy> krita sucks, it won't let me brighten up pictures with a slider scale just a graph scale which I hate. I don't want a paint program I want something like gnome image editor
[09:26] <chaos_of_apocaly> i didnt new there was flash for linux
[09:26] <LjL> webben: still a bit young, but it already has features that the Gimp lacks (such as 16 bit color), though of course there are a ton of features that it lacks
[09:26] <cwillu> chaos_of_apocaly: oh, actual radio, not internet radio :p
[09:26] <kitche> CntryBoy you mean soemthing like GIMP
[09:26] <chaos_of_apocaly> yes...
[09:26] <oskude> linuxmaier, i copy my files allways with "scp" ("scp -r" should copy dirs)
[09:26] <rockzman> gdal-config how do i fix this lib
[09:26] <rockzman> ?
[09:26] <cwillu> chaos_of_apocaly: there is, both free and none
[09:26] <gdb> mrtwister: What OS is your client running?
[09:26] <cwillu> non
[09:26] <LjL> Cntryboy: "gnome image editor" would be what, the GIMP?
[09:27] <chaos_of_apocaly> where
[09:27] <chaos_of_apocaly> ?
[09:27] <Cntryboy> I dunno, I thought gimp was the paint part
[09:27] <Cntryboy> default gnome image viewer opens them
[09:27] <webben> dcordero: if you're only talking about one or two folders, this might help: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-147809.html
[09:27] <LjL> Cntryboy: then i'm really lost on what you mean.
[09:27] <Cntryboy> if u look under it says gnome image editor
[09:27] <mrtwister> gdb: mac osx
[09:27] <LjL> Cntryboy: uh so you want an image *viewer*?!
[09:27] <cwillu> chaos_of_apocaly: make sure you've got all the repositories enabled, and you should be able to find flash in the app installer
[09:27] <Cntryboy> ljl: no I want a image editor
[09:27] <LjL> Cntryboy: i don't have gnome right now
[09:27] <tribalfuse> Cntryboy, Gimp is pretty cool, try it... in words its almost like the old photoshop
[09:27] <Cntryboy> but not a paint program
[09:27] <cwillu> !restricted > chaos_of_apocaly
[09:27] <chaos_of_apocaly> ok.but how to listen to the radio?
[09:27] <gdb> Cntryboy: Then the gimp is what you want.
[09:27] <mrtwister> gdb: well work to cosmopod.net which is based at kubunu,
[09:27] <Cntryboy> tribalfuse: i know what gimp is lol
[09:28] <gdb> Cntryboy: It's an image editor, not just a paint program.
[09:28] <tribalfuse> hehe :) i love it... hehe :)
[09:28] <chaos_of_apocaly> whats that thing restricted?
[09:28] <LjL> Cntryboy: GIMP and Krita are both image editors, and i'm not sure what the difference with a "paint program" would be
[09:28] <Cntryboy> will someone right click an image and u see gnome image editor not gimp
[09:28] <webben> chaos_of_apocaly: which radio?
[09:28] <oskude> chaos_of_apocaly, you mean analog radio or internet radio ?
[09:28] <gdb> mrtwister: So you're running NX client under Mac OS X, and trying to get connected to an NX server on an Ubuntu machine?
[09:28] <chaos_of_apocaly> listen to local radio
[09:28] <cwillu> chaos_of_apocaly: sorry, I know almost nothing about radio/tv cards;  I _think_ there's some packages in synaptic, also, the hardware provider might have linux support; could also try googling the card name for people who've tried your hardware before
[09:29] <chaos_of_apocaly> ok
[09:29] <mrtwister> gdb: yes
[09:29] <oskude> chaos_of_apocaly, with a "radio card" ?
[09:29] <chaos_of_apocaly> thaks
[09:29] <chaos_of_apocaly> yes
[09:29] <Cntryboy> LjL: I can't tell ya exactly im not on ubunto no more, i have kubuntu lol, but I know gimp was there as a paint program, but I also thought just a simple image editor was also
[09:29] <LjL> Cntryboy: well i can say that "apt-cache search gnome image editor" doesn't show up with anything relevant
[09:29] <tribalfuse> kpaint?
[09:29] <oskude> chaos_of_apocaly, sorry, never user those :/
[09:29] <hcjc92> \o/ my partitioning didn't frag ubuntu \o/
[09:29] <LjL> Cntryboy: can't you describe what you want it to *do* instead?
[09:29] <gdb> Cntryboy: I get Image Viewer, GIMP Image Editor, Mozilla Firefox, and gThumb Image Viewer as options.
[09:30] <tribalfuse> LjL, exactly :)
[09:30] <webben> how is IE support in Wine these days on a suckiness scale of 1 to 10?
[09:30] <Sub> webben, not too bad
[09:30] <Cntryboy> gdb: I guess it was gimp then lol
[09:30] <oskude> webben, 0 lol
[09:30] <Cntryboy> oh no
[09:30] <Cntryboy> its gthumb image editor
[09:30] <Cntryboy> default opens with gthumb image viewer, but mine had gthumb image editor also
[09:30] <LjL> tribalfuse: kpaint is not in the repos. there's kolourpaint now though
[09:30] <LjL> tribalfuse: but that's more like a dumbed down MS Paint than anything else
[09:30] <Cntryboy> now im remembering
[09:30] <tribalfuse> webben, not sure but... overall suckiness scale of wine has been 5 always :)
[09:31] <Cntryboy> gdb: do you see gthumb image editor also?
[09:31] <cwillu> webben: check out ie4linux
[09:31] <LjL> Cntryboy: gthumb is definitely not an editor...
[09:31] <cwillu> webben: not deb's, but google it
[09:31] <zetor> hello all!
[09:31] <webben> cwillu: yeah i've used that.... i'm really asking whether things have gotten any better over past 6 months or so
[09:31] <gdb> mrtwister: Well, that error is not one I've seen before.  I've run into authentication issues, but that error is one that needs clarfication.  Like, what is the fatal error?  Connection refused?  I can't say from the nxserver log.
[09:31] <cwillu> it's a self contained wine'd ie package that installs ie5, 5.5 and 6
[09:31] <KenSentMe> Is there a ubuntu equivalent to WinSCP?
[09:31] <gdb> Cntryboy: 'gThumbs Image Viewer"
[09:31] <Cntryboy> I wish I had ubuntu to look, i hate being blinded lol
[09:31] <jrib> KenSentMe: you can use nautilus
[09:31] <LjL> Cntryboy: well actually it does have some whole-image editing features. so is that all that you want, a program that lets you change contrast brightness and that sort?
[09:32] <saik0> KenSentMe, Nautilus has sftp functionality
[09:32] <webben> KenSentMe: or Konqueror
[09:32] <cwillu> webben: maybe, you can always try the latest versions from cvs, etc
[09:32] <Cntryboy> LjL: yes
[09:32] <cwillu> particular reason why you need ie?
[09:32] <Cntryboy> maybe it was just gthumb image viewer that let me do this
[09:32] <Cntryboy> by default in gnome what opens up a picture
[09:32] <Cntryboy> because it wasn't default what I used
[09:32] <gdb> Cntryboy: That'd be eog or Eye of Gnome.
[09:32] <Cntryboy> and it wasn't gimp either
[09:32] <Cntryboy> let me try thumb
[09:32] <Cntryboy> gthumb
[09:33] <cwillu> KenSentMe: don't know off hand, although I know there's a package that lets you mount scp'able hosts in your file system
[09:33] <Cntryboy> sudo apt-get install gthumb?
[09:33] <KenSentMe> jrib, saik0, webben: thanx, i didn't think of that
[09:33] <tribalfuse> Cntryboy, gthumb is on kubuntu? i'm not really sure
[09:33] <KenSentMe> cwillu: it works, just choose ssh in nautilus network connections
[09:33] <LjL> Cntryboy: then i think you simply want to install kipi-plugins, and then use gwenview (the default viewer) for those editing operations
[09:33] <cwillu> i.e., mount cwillu@cwillu.com:/foo/bar /media/foobar
[09:33] <detrate> Quick question pertaining to dual monitors (note: I've searched): How would I add hotkeys to move an application from one monitor to the other?
[09:33] <LjL> Cntryboy: (that is, either gwenview or anything else that supports Kipi plugins, like i think digikam, and others)
[09:34] <cwillu> KenSentMe: I just meant as a non nautilus approach (I'm not a fan of the nautilus thing, things that actually aren't in the file system :p)
[09:34] <KenSentMe> cwillu: ah, ok
[09:34] <tribalfuse> g is for gnome not half a gram of kde ;)
[09:34] <KenSentMe> cwillu: nautilus is fine for me :)
[09:34] <saik0> KenSentMe, sure. just ctrl+L and sftp://user@host:/path or Places -> Connect to server
[09:34] <K^Holtz> i just used the copy command to copy a file over to my usb drive, and after i reloaded the drive to see if it copied over right, it put all my filenames into some crazy text and its not legible
[09:34] <roostishaw> anyone, how do people get their terminals to look like this? http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=27634931844ae6d97ef456&p=screen
[09:34] <roostishaw> ?
[09:35] <Cntryboy> gwenview doesn't let me edit though
[09:35] <cwillu> K^Holtz: how are you mounting it?
[09:35] <ddonky> anyone have trouble using lite-on dvd burners with dapper?
[09:35] <Cntryboy> brb
[09:35] <LjL> tribalfuse: *g*wenview is a KDE program though :)
[09:35] <LjL> Cntryboy: not without kipi-plugins, no
[09:35] <crashzor> othere qeustion is there a way to make grub booth a cd dat is on a harddisc ( iso or unpackt iso )
[09:35] <K^Holtz> cwillu: i just put in the usb drive and it showed up on the desktop, and a box showed up showing the contents of the drive (correctly) so i figured it was mounted alread
[09:36] <nomis_> roostishaw, you can do that with eterm
[09:36] <K^Holtz> already*
[09:36] <tribalfuse> LjL, haha ;) overall_dumb_me=9.9 ranking absurdity level too high :) (brb)
[09:36] <KenSentMe> roostishaw: in nautilus, go to Edit, current profile and look at effects. You can get the transparency there
[09:36] <roostishaw> nomis_, but do you know the command to make it like that... in the desktop and all
[09:36] <cwillu> K^Holtz: and then you unplugged it and replugged, and got gibberish
[09:36] <cwillu> ?
[09:37] <debnewbee> abend zusammen
[09:37] <K^Holtz> cwillu: no, i didnt unplug it, i just hit the reload button in nautillous or whatever the window is
[09:37] <detrate> Can anyone help me with dual monitor hotkeys?
[09:37] <nomis_> roostishaw, you have to read the manpage. i don't know the command
[09:37] <cwillu> :/
[09:37] <detrate> At least point me in the right direction? :-\
[09:37] <nomis_> roostishaw, but some years ago, i had eterms like this. so i know you can do it ;)
[09:37] <K^Holtz> cwillu: the command i used was cp 07-kanye* /dev/sda1 .. is that right?
[09:37] <cwillu> detrate: I know you can set hot keys for virtual workspaces, might try that;  haven't had a chance to run ubuntu on my dual workstation yet though
[09:37] <saik0> roostishaw, browse/search the forums, theres lots of info on how to bling out your desktop on there
[09:37] <cwillu> K^Holtz: gah
[09:38] <cwillu> don't think so
[09:38] <roostishaw> thanks all!
[09:38] <detrate> nah.. doesn't help.
[09:38] <K^Holtz> cwillu: did i corrupt my whole usb drive?
[09:38] <cwillu> K^Holtz: /dev is generally the raw device, so I think you sent raw information to the usb drive
[09:38] <cwillu> K^Holtz: I hope not :(
[09:38] <K^Holtz> cwillu: should i have used /media/usbdisk?
[09:38] <cwillu> K^Holtz: you're always needing to write to stuff via the mount, which will generally be in /media or /mnt
[09:38] <cwillu> yes
[09:39] <oskude> detrate, i use xmodmap to map characters to keys, maybe it can do more, read "man xmodmap"
[09:39] <K^Holtz> cwillu:  :(, ill try to unmount it and put it in my windows box to c what happened to my data
[09:39] <cwillu> K^Holtz: wait
[09:40] <cwillu> anybody here know anything about the linux usb mount drivers?  if somebody cp'd directly to the /dev by mistake, is there anything he should do?
[09:40] <Cntryboy> LjL: what is kipi plugins
[09:40] <saik0> cwillu, I'm thinking fdisk =(
[09:41] <hcjc92> fdisk is fun!
[09:41] <K^Holtz> well, ill never make that mistake again
[09:41] <LjL> Cntryboy: it's a set of image editing plugins for KDE, designed as a standard that all imaging programs can use
[09:41] <Moocasso> I'm sorry guys, what was the terminal command to check your dependencies someone told me earlier?
[09:41] <cwillu> K^Holtz: I'm hoping there's some wizardary that can recover from some cache or something :/
[09:41] <LjL> Cntryboy: apt-cache show kipi-plugins
[09:41] <K^Holtz> i should have just used copy and paste
[09:41] <Cntryboy> kk
[09:41] <Cntryboy> tx
[09:41] <Pupeno> my sound was working a couple of days ago and now it isn't. Amarok and alsa player seem to play, but nothing can be heard, aplay gives the error "aplay: main:544: audio open error: Invalid argument". Any ideas ?
[09:41] <Cntryboy> ljl: im already downloading them
[09:42] <cwillu> K^Holtz: ya, but I find it hard to blame you
[09:42] <saik0> cwillu it might be possible to do data recovery, but i dont know of any linux utils that can recover fat
[09:42] <gdb> Moocasso: In what context?  What depends on a pariticular package?  What dependancies are missing in your system overall?  What dependancies are satisfied by a package?  What?
[09:42] <K^Holtz> i have a windows box right here...
[09:42] <masterofallarts> how to increase the speed of the mouse pointer?
[09:42] <r38yatwork> does anybody know if it is possible to install the server edition off of the desktop cd like 5.10?
[09:42] <r38yatwork> would be handy
[09:42] <cwillu> K^Holtz: yes, I'm just not sure if we lose anything unrecoverably when you unmount it :)
[09:43] <gdb> masterofallarts: System -> Preferences -> Mouse -> Motion tab.
[09:43] <Moocasso> well I'm trying to get a program to compile, and I keep getting error message checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:43] <Moocasso> See `config.log' for more details.
[09:43] <Moocasso> make: *** No rule to make target `config.status', needed by `install'.  Stop.
[09:43] <hcjc92> LOL! QuakeNet is K-Line'ing me for irc'ing as root! lol
[09:43] <LjL> Cntryboy: there is also digikamimageplugins (which of course needs digikam, but that'll get installed automatically). pick the one that suits you best
[09:43] <cwillu> r38yatwork: directly, I think you need the alternatives cd; dapper's main cd is just a live cd, the installer on it runs from that
[09:43] <LjL> !tell Moocasso about build-essential
[09:43] <K^Holtz> cwillu: its ok, ill just reformat the drive, i cant really remember, but im hoping that nothing was too important on it
[09:43] <Cntryboy> k tx
[09:44] <Moocasso> er.
[09:44] <cwillu> K^Holtz: okay... it's kinda too bad that you didn't have to sudo at least to get to the device
[09:44] <Commander-Crowe> !install > Commander-Crowe
[09:44] <gdb> K^Holtz: Hey, the bright side is that if you can't remember if anything important was on it, it probably wasn't. ;-)
[09:44] <Cntryboy> I wish I could remember the mass image renamer I used for gnome
[09:44] <r38yatwork> cwillu, thanks
[09:44] <r38yatwork> so I can't from the cd's they ship out?
[09:44] <K^Holtz> cwillu: what would be the proper command to copy and paste to that drive?
[09:44] <Cntryboy> it would rename a huge list of image files really quick to what ever you chose for a prefix
[09:44] <K^Holtz> gdb: :) ur probably right
[09:44] <cwillu> K^Holtz: you want to use whatever shows up in /media or /mnt
[09:44] <gdb> Cntryboy: ImageMagick?
[09:44] <LjL> Cntryboy: there's gwenrename for kde
[09:45] <ubuntu_> Hey, I have a question about Xorg
[09:45] <K^Holtz> cwillu: so do cp <file> /mount/usbdisk ?
[09:45] <cwillu> K^Holtz: did you have to sudo it to make the cp /dev  work?
[09:45] <saik0> !ask
[09:45] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:45] <cwillu> K^Holtz: yep
[09:45] <ubuntu_> :D
[09:45] <K^Holtz> cwillu: nope
[09:45] <Cntryboy> LjL: is gwenrename default or do I have to download it
[09:46] <cwillu> K^Holtz: k, that might be bug territory then
[09:46] <Commander-Crowe> can I install kB3 in Ubuntu?
[09:46] <LjL> Cntryboy: no it's not there by default
[09:46] <cwillu> K^Holtz: ya, anything in media or mnt is translated, it acts as normal files
[09:46] <cwillu> anything in dev is raw devices, i.e., you can get raw random bits from /dev/random, etc
[09:46] <ubuntu_> Anyway, I am running off the Ubuntu live CD, and whenever it starts X my screen is just covered in artifacts.  I tried using sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in order to put in my monitors proper refresh rates and stuff from my old ubuntu installation (I wrote them down) but when I do that I still get the same artifacts with Xorg
[09:46] <cwillu> hell, with the right options, you can read/write directly from memory via /dev too :)
[09:47] <webben> Does anyone know a very clean, legible, non-hideous theme that can be used with both gnome and kde?
[09:47] <Cntryboy> kk
[09:47] <ubuntu_> webben: isn
[09:47] <cwillu> ubuntu_: try lowering the screen resolution;  dapper'
[09:47] <ubuntu_> t there that tango thing?
[09:47] <cwillu> dapper's a bit more aggressive with the defaults I believe
[09:47] <K^Holtz> cwillu: im far away from being capable of submitting a bug
[09:47] <ubuntu_> cwillu:  I'll try that
[09:47] <AdamG> does anyone know how and if there is an option I can append to programs to have them start in a specific desktop?
[09:47] <cwillu> K^Holtz: I'm talking about myself mostly :p
[09:47] <Commander-Crowe> anyone?
[09:47] <Commander-Crowe> anyone?
[09:47] <Commander-Crowe> anyone?
[09:48] <cwillu> K^Holtz: i.e., I don't think you can cp directly to /dev/hda for instance, due to the default permissions
[09:48] <cwillu> Commander-Crowe: don't do that  :p
[09:48] <webben> ubuntu_: isn?
[09:48] <babis85> Commander-Crowe: do you mean k3b?
[09:48] <Commander-Crowe> yeah
[09:48] <Cntryboy> k3b is installed already on mine by default
[09:48] <AdamG> I want to make a startup script that'll load the programs I use into the desktop I prefer them, but I don't have any idea how to "order" them into the correct desktop
[09:48] <cwillu> it's too bad that spamming the channel works so well as an attention getting device... :/
[09:49] <webben> ubuntu_: ah sorry just saw the rest of your message
[09:49] <babis85> Commander-Crowe: Applications->Add-Remove and search for k3b
[09:49] <Commander-Crowe> yeha but i have no internet on that computer
[09:49] <K^Holtz> cwillu: attempt #2 :) (on a blank usb drive now)
[09:49] <LjL> Cntryboy: anyway, my personal advice is that you install digikamimageplugins. digikam itself is not suited for single-image work (it's intended as a digital camera album manager), but it comes with a program called showFoto
[09:49] <cwillu> K^Holtz: out of curiosity, when you have the usb plugged in, what does "ls /dev/us* -l" say?
[09:49] <ablyss> AdamG: try #bash maybe a scripting tool out there
[09:50] <ubuntu_> webben: yeah, it is some project to make a unified desktop look.  It's not my cup of tea, but then again I usually solely use KDE.
[09:50] <LjL> Cntryboy: if you install that, then you can right click on files, choose "Open With / showFoto", and you'll have a simple program with quite a few whole-image editing effects
[09:50] <cwillu> K^Holtz: I don't have a usb drive handy to test with, I'm curious what the permissions are set to, ownership, etc
[09:50] <AdamG> ok, thanks
[09:50] <webben> ubuntu_: yeah i know about tango ... but i thought it was mainly (an incomplete set of) iicons, might be wrong though
[09:50] <K^Holtz> cwillu: u mean /dev/sda1 ?
[09:50] <[miles] > evening #ubuntu
[09:50] <cwillu> K^Holtz: if that's what you cp'd to before
[09:51] <K^Holtz> brw-rw---- 1 root plugdev 8, 1 2006-07-07 15:49 /dev/sda1
[09:51] <cwillu> mornin' [miles] 
[09:51] <babis85> Commander-Crowe: that's a problem for me, it might have depedencies, the most possible
[09:51] <webben> What's the best (as in dead simple to use but still powerful) firewall for Ubuntu these days?
[09:51] <baconbacon> iptables is the firewall
[09:51] <baconbacon> firestarter is the gui
[09:51] <cwillu> K^Holtz: okay, and you're in that group (looks like ubuntu puts the first user in there automaticall)
[09:51] <Commander-Crowe> where do I find bison2 in deb?
[09:52] <webben> back to firestarter ... okay, thanks :)
[09:52] <Cntryboy> ljl: too late man already getting the plugins for kipi
[09:52] <LjL> Commander-Crowe: perhaps the "bison" package?
[09:52] <ubuntu_> webben: actually, they have done some more work on it.  they have themes for firefox and opera, and also I think some themes for KDE and gnome.  but its still not that great IMO.  I'm pretty sure somet themes like clearlooks have been ported to KDE though, I recall seeing them on KDE look
[09:52] <cwillu> anybody know if one actually needs ownership of the usb device in order to make automounting work?
[09:52] <baconbacon> hmm there may be better, but not nearly as popular
[09:52] <Cntryboy> ljl: on dialup and 2.1KB is max so it will take awhile lol
[09:52] <sharms> If I install a package that is more up to date than the one ubuntu has, how do I stop ubuntu from trying to update it?  Is there a GUI way?
[09:52] <LjL> Cntryboy: well, it surely won't hurt to try out both options and see what you prefer.
[09:52] <Commander-Crowe> !bison > COmmander-Crowe
[09:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about bison
[09:52] <[miles] > I wondered if anyone can help me with this. Yes, I have googled around etc first, now I come here. I'm trying to get ProzGUI compiled from source, but its buggy as hell. I've spent about 2 hours hacking at the source, but its beta code, and its just not compiling. I now on previous versions of Ubuntu it was installable via deb, but now its missing in dapper...
[09:52] <[miles] > does anyone know an repo that has a binary for dapper of this?
[09:52] <Tux-Rox> Anyone know how to alphabetise the client list on the TSClient Applet?
[09:52] <[miles] > I've compiled Prozilla... but I want the GUI also
[09:52] <saik0> !info bison > Commander-Crowe
[09:53] <ubotu> bison: A parser generator that is compatible with YACC. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:2.1-0.2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 307 kB, installed size 1264 kB
[09:53] <LjL> Cntryboy: i think the showFoto idea is better if you want something that works like gThumb (based on the scarce knowledge i have of it)
[09:53] <webben> ubuntu_: ah, thanks
[09:53] <ubuntu_> eh, I tried lowering the resolution in increments until it hit its lowest point (640x480) but still all i get are artifacts.  It looks like the screen is zoomed in a lot though, as I can see the buttons on the top left of the desktop panel, but they are very washed out and zoomed in.  does anyone have any idea what is causing this?
[09:53] <jme> [miles] : you could just try an old package
[09:53] <K^Holtz> cwillu: thanks for your help
[09:53] <[miles] > jme: mmm true
[09:53] <Moocasso> Okay, I try to install build-essential, but it's telling me "build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or	libc-dev Depends: g++ but it is not going to be installed", so I try to install libc6-dev, and it says "libc6-dev:
[09:53] <Moocasso>   Depends: libc6 (=2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.4-1ubuntu6 is to be installed", and at this point I have no idea where to go...
[09:53] <Akbar> is there a ubuntu netinstall?
[09:53] <[miles] > jme: I am a shell geek, so using proz is fine, but GUI is nice actually
[09:53] <bulltitan> hi i have a really big problem
[09:54] <[miles] > I'll give it a whirl
[09:54] <[miles] > installing the older version
[09:54] <LjL> Moocasso: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin
[09:54] <[miles] > shame wget never added support to download file in chunks
[09:54] <bulltitan> yesterday vmware workstation was working ok but today it freezes ubuntu
[09:54] <LjL> Akbar: not a proper netinstall like debian's, afaik
[09:54] <bulltitan> i don't get what's going on with it
[09:54] <Akbar> LjL, could you upgrade from sarge or etch to ubuntu?
[09:55] <Akbar> or would that totally screw up everything?
[09:55] <LjL> Akbar: some have done it, but i don't know what is involved
[09:55] <[miles] > right, I'm off... Spain is overly hot today... ados
[09:55] <bulltitan> no error messages no nothing i type in terminal sudo /usr/bin/vmware and that's it freezes my pc
[09:55] <Akbar> bulltitan, paralells is great too :)
[09:56] <Cntryboy> ljl: but whats the difference though? I mean i just wanted something to brighten up images ect. what does showfoto do?
[09:56] <bulltitan> thanks for the tip i'll have that in mind but do you know anything about this issue?
[09:56] <Karti> Hi all, a quick question please. I would like to try Ubunto on a G3 iMac, I have read it works but would like another opinion. Cheers
[09:56] <LjL> Cntryboy: it does that kind of things. gwenview (with the kipi plugins) can do that, too, but it's more batch-oriented, i.e. you can't just open an image and say "brighten this"
[09:56] <cwillu> how safe is the ubuntu ntfs resizer?
[09:56] <LjL> Cntryboy: that's why i said showfoto is probably more like the kind of thing you want
[09:57] <Akbar> bulltitan, did you install the modules?
[09:57] <kaot> cwillu: back your stuff up, but i didn't have any problem with it
[09:57] <vcourtney> hi.  I'd appreciate some guidance with a borked gnome
[09:57] <bulltitan> where do i get those modules from?
[09:57] <cwillu> vcourtney: how borked?
[09:57] <bulltitan> don't they come in the default install?
[09:57] <LjL> cwillu: it's fairly safe, but that kind of thing is still inherently quite dangerous
[09:58] <Akbar> dunno, I'm running debian..
[09:58] <vcourtney> cwillu: it metacity is dead, and the deskbar applet stops taking input
[09:58] <Cntryboy> ljl: then how do you use kipi plugins wih gwenview
[09:58] <Akbar> are the modules precompiled for ubuntu?
[09:58] <bulltitan> version is vmware 5.5.1
[09:58] <Akbar> bulltitan, from where did you get the vmware package?
[09:58] <sverzel> hey guys.. I wonder.. how do I change the resolution that GDM uses on boot?
[09:58] <cwillu> vcourtney: including after a reboot or x restart?
[09:58] <bulltitan> it was a website that has a lot of linux apps
[09:58] <vcourtney> cwillu: yep.  if I want to use gnome I have to use a different window manager (right now I'm using kwin)
[09:59] <Akbar> uhhh...
[09:59] <cwillu> sverzel: not sure the 'proper' way, but you can change the default resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:59] <cwillu> just back the file up first
[09:59] <bulltitan> anyway the packages is about 80 mb
[09:59] <Tux-Rox> Akbar, GDM should use your default resolution. Are you talking about the boot GUI?
[09:59] <kevinz> i need one particular package from edgy to be installed in dapper. do i simply add edgy to the repository list?
[09:59] <cwillu> vcourtney: what happens if you log in with gnome-failsafe?
[09:59] <Karti> All: Any ideas about the G3 please?
[09:59] <Akbar> Tux-Rox, wrong nick :)
[09:59] <bulltitan> seems to me that it seems complete hope i'm wrong
[09:59] <cwillu> or use a new profile?
[09:59] <LjL> Cntryboy: you go to the Plugins menu, select the kind of thing you want to do, and select a list of pictures you want to do it to
[10:00] <LjL> Cntryboy: again, really, get showFoto.
[10:00] <cwillu> K^Holtz: any luck?
[10:00] <Tux-Rox> sverzel, , GDM should use your default resolution. Are you talking about the boot GUI?
[10:00] <sverzel> cwillu, the weird thing is that the highest resolution in xorg.conf is fairly low. 1280 x something. But GDM still uses 2000 x something. In Gnome I use 1600x1200. :-\
[10:00] <Tux-Rox> sorry Akbar
[10:00] <Akbar> np
[10:00] <vcourtney> cwillu: I haven't given it a shot yet, but I will (duh).  Is it possible for a bad theme to completely kill metacity?
[10:00] <LjL> Cntryboy: and note that interrupting the apt-get with a ctrl+c will do no harm, as long as it's only still downloading
[10:00] <ubuntu_> test
[10:00] <Cntryboy> ljl: okay I cancled the kipi stuff
[10:00] <cwillu> sverzel: paste bin your xorg.conf
[10:00] <sverzel> Tux-Rox, no about GDM.. but I set my resolution in Gnome only. Didn't even "need" to fiddle with my xorg.conf
[10:00] <Commander-Crowe> I need cc and ccl
[10:00] <Cntryboy> sudo apt-get install showFoto?
[10:00] <Commander-Crowe> and hawk
[10:00] <Commander-Crowe> wherer do I get thoughs
[10:00] <bulltitan> is this a hopeless thing, should i get rid of it?
[10:01] <Sub> does anyone know how to enable 3D acceleration with a trident graphics card?
[10:01] <cwillu> vcourtney: might be, not sure
[10:01] <Tux-Rox> sverzel, When you use the resolution config in GNOME, what is your highest option
[10:01] <Akbar> bulltitan, dunno where you got that package from..
[10:01] <Sub> Commander-Crowe, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[10:01] <cwillu> sverzel: I'd be very very surprised if gdm is using a res not in xorg.conf
[10:01] <Sub> Commander-Crowe, cc is called "gcc" in linux
[10:01] <Commander-Crowe> I CAN'T
[10:01] <Karti> Any Mac fans here?
[10:01] <Commander-Crowe> I have no internet
[10:01] <bulltitan> let me see if i can find the website in my history
[10:01] <vcourtney> cwillu: is there a way to completely wipe gnome and reinstall?  I'm new to the linux desktop experience.
[10:01] <sverzel> Tux-Rox, 2048x1536. I guess that's the one which is used by GDM.
[10:01] <Sub> Commander-Crowe, they might be on the install CD
[10:02] <markoz> only testing
[10:02] <cwillu> vcourtney: I think there's a dpkg-reconfig-all type option
[10:02] <Commander-Crowe> oh ok
[10:02] <cwillu> not sure what it is though
[10:02] <markoz> first time on IRC
[10:02] <Tux-Rox> sverzel, exactly. Edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and remove anything about what you want to use.
[10:02] <babis85> i want to configure my printer, but when it prompts me to log it doesn't accept me...what can i do?
[10:02] <baconbacon> vcourtney: do you mean the gnome config of the user or the gnome install
[10:02] <Tux-Rox> about = above, sorry
[10:02] <vcourtney> baconbacon: the gnome user config
[10:02] <K^Holtz> cwillu: yea, it worked just fine the 2nd attempt :)
[10:03] <cwillu> K^Holtz: k
[10:03] <sverzel> Tux-Rox, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17447
[10:03] <sverzel> cwillu, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17447
[10:03] <saik0> markoz. it's working ;)
[10:03] <markoz> thanks saik0
[10:03] <LjL> Commander-Crowe: i'd given you a link to a tutorial. why not follow that instead of doing it step by step here? since in any case, compiling stuff is not just a matter of knowing *one* command. yeah, installing build-essential will get you through to the first step, but please do read the short tutorial
[10:03] <webben> are there packages for vim 7 available anywhere?
[10:03] <blo> Hi all, I am having graphics cards issues with an intel 845G setup on a dell laptop. glxgears fps rate is pathetic... i think the driver i have installed is not the right one
[10:03] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[10:04] <sverzel> last time I buy ATI btw. Less stable drivers you really need to look for. :-)
[10:04] <Commander-Crowe> and i know how to compilestuff
[10:04] <Moocasso> I need help please.  I'm trying to install the libc6-dev  package, but every time I try to install it, it tells me it's missing the dependency libc6, but libc6 is installed, version 2.4-1ubuntu6
[10:04] <Commander-Crowe> I've done it many times
[10:04] <markoz> how do I get around with so many messagees ? or who is talking to who ?
[10:04] <baconbacon> vcourtney:  to wipe gnome settings removing the following directories from the home folder is usually enough : .gnome .gnome2 .metacity .nautilus
[10:04] <LjL> Commander-Crowe: oh, ok then. fine. weird that you don't know to install gcc and make then
[10:04] <Commander-Crowe> no
[10:04] <Commander-Crowe> I can install it
[10:05] <Commander-Crowe> I just can't find it
[10:05] <Tux-Rox> sverzel, So that is your current xorg.conf?
[10:05] <cwillu> sverzel: what's with the second screen section?
[10:05] <vcourtney> baconbacon: thanks.  and if that doesn't fix things, how would I go about a gnome reinstall?
[10:05] <Commander-Crowe> but i have it now
[10:05] <cwillu> Tux-Rox: he just pastebin'd it
[10:05] <sverzel> Tux-Rox, correct.
[10:05] <Commander-Crowe> so nevermind that
[10:05] <babis85> any help???
[10:05] <Commander-Crowe> and now I'm looking for hawk and ccl
[10:05] <RoAkSoAx> hello there can anyone help me on creating virtual interfaces?
[10:05] <Akbar> gnome reinstall? :P
[10:05] <sverzel> cwillu, haven't got the faintest. It's autogenerated in fact.
[10:05] <baconbacon> vcourtney: there's not really any reinstalling
[10:05] <vcourtney> Akbar: I don't know how these things work (yet)
[10:06] <cwillu> sverzel: okay, the second one looks weird, like it's autodetecting every time;  I'd suggest commenting it out, but I'd also suggest that it'll probably break something if you do :p
[10:06] <hcjc92> how the heck do i get telnetd to run!
[10:06] <markoz> babis85. I would like to help you but is my first time here
[10:06] <Akbar> vcourtney, why would you want to reinstall gnome?
[10:06] <sverzel> cwillu, hehe, yes.. I think your warning is warranted :)
[10:06] <vcourtney> Akbar: I managed to bork it rather spectacularly
[10:06] <Larsson-Sweden> I'm browsing a Swedish Linux forum discussing slow started applications. There are people there using Arch linux, and saying that things are very fast for them on very old machines (P3 800mhz) so i am wondering, is this because Arch linux is a 686-based distribution or is Ubuntu bloated?
[10:06] <salah> what package do I have to install to get "glibc"?
[10:06] <babis85> markoz: thanks for your kindness
[10:06] <sverzel> cwillu, well both you and Tux-Rox thinks it's all about xorg.conf so I'll look into it
[10:06] <sverzel> cwillu, thanks
[10:06] <sverzel> Tux-Rox, thanks to you too. :)
[10:07] <saik0> hcjc92, curious. why are you using telnet and not ssh?
[10:07] <baconbacon> vcourtney: if you were not root, you could not break something which you can't repair by removing stuff from your home,
[10:07] <babis85> markoz: to me is my second or third time
[10:07] <ButzaW> Is there a LiveCD Ubuntu
[10:07] <ButzaW> ?
[10:07] <picket> jupp
[10:07] <cwillu> sverzel: I think you can probably specify a default res in there, which should be sufficient even if the other advice doesn't pan out
[10:07] <hcjc92> saik0 not sure, i just wnat to play with it
[10:07] <hcjc92> :)
[10:07] <markoz> babis85, please tel me one more time what is happing to you
[10:07] <vcourtney> baconbacon: I messed around with root priveleges for awhile to see what I could do
[10:07] <Tux-Rox> sverzel, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:07] <blo> hi , so i downloaded a driver from the intel site for my 845GL intel graphics card (dell laptop) but don't know how to install it or whether i should. i am fairly certain that the 810 driver it's using now is incorrect. any thoughts?
[10:07] <cwillu> ButzaW: the main cd is a live cd
[10:07] <Akbar> you could remove --purge the gnomelibs and that will remove and purge every gnome components that's relying on those libs.. but I wouldn't do that :)
[10:07] <hcjc92> ButzaW, switch please switch
[10:07] <Commander-Crowe> dial up sucks
[10:07] <saik0> hcjc92. if you want to run commands remotely SSH is what you should be using
[10:08] <ButzaW> :)
[10:08] <saik0> hcjc92, apt-get install openssh-server
[10:08] <babis85> markoz: i want to configure my printer, but when it prompts me to log it doesn't accept me...what can i do?
[10:08] <cwillu> ButzaW: ya, the main install cd is actually the livecd too, you just have an install icon you can click to start the install process
[10:08] <ButzaW> I heared WINE is not 100% compatible with audio editing programs
[10:08] <vcourtney> Akbar: okay, I'll save that as totally last ditch :)
[10:08] <ButzaW> that's the main concern with switching
[10:08] <hcjc92> saik0 i know, is there anyway to set up telnet be limited....
[10:08] <markoz> babis85, what do you mean by log it ?
[10:09] <Akbar> :D
[10:09] <Commander-Crowe> http://bos.seul.org/
[10:09] <sharms> ButzaW, with respect to audio editing I would dual boot, keep a large windows partition since audio takes up a bunch of space, and then everything else use Ubuntu.  Best of both worlds.
[10:09] <ButzaW> I need to be able to run SONAR and FL Studio through some sort of emulation
[10:09] <baconbacon> ButzaW: is wine 100% compatible with anything
[10:09] <Commander-Crowe> good game
[10:09] <vcourtney> this is a great opportunity to get to know KDE, at least
[10:09] <Jowi> Larsson-Sweden: Ubuntu has got a bloated startup. Ubuntu is made to fit everyone. I've removed everything I do not have use for and gotten it fairly quick (35 second boot on a 1ghz machine)
[10:09] <saik0> hcjc92, a firewall. but you would still be vulnerable to man-in-the-middle attacks
[10:09] <apokryphos> baconbacon: no, far from it.
[10:09] <Yoric> hi
[10:09] <apokryphos> *very* far from it
[10:09] <babis85> markoz: promting to give username and password
[10:09] <ButzaW> hmmm
[10:09] <salah> which package do I have to install to get "glibc"?
[10:09] <cwillu> ButzaW: might wanna look at crossover, it's wine with a bit more support;  I think there's a trial version you can do, although you'll have a tough time trying it on a live cd
[10:09] <reztho> hi
[10:09] <baconbacon> apokryphos: that was some sort of sarcastic remark
[10:09] <saik0> hcjc92, telnet uses no encryption, not even for authentification. plaintext passwords are sent
[10:09] <blo> can anyone help to complile an intel graphics driver please?
[10:09] <markoz> babis85, is it a network printer ?
[10:10] <Larsson-Sweden> Jowi, but are 686-based distributions a lot faster?
[10:10] <ButzaW> dual boot is a pain. Takes a looong time ;\
[10:10] <hcjc92> saik0: fine, i'll just use ssh :)
[10:10] <apokryphos> baconbacon: sorry, I only just entered the conversation on the remark
[10:10] <sverzel> Tux-Rox, well it removed the device that's for sure.. I'll cut and paste a bit
[10:10] <cwillu> ButzaW: wine and related programs are not 100%, and will probably never be (they're reimplementations of the microsoft api's, and it's tough to do that)
[10:10] <sharms> Larsson-Sweden, processor optimizations generally only yield ~10%
[10:10] <Jowi> Larsson-Sweden: depends on your cpu :)
[10:10] <Moocasso> I'm trying to install the libc6-dev  package, but every time I try to install it, it tells me it's missing the dependency libc6, but libc6 is installed, version 2.4-1ubuntu6, does anybody have any ideas I can try
[10:10] <kitche> there is a new project that I think might be better then wine
[10:10] <reztho> i have a problem here, i have a scanner and xsane doesn't recognize it. I'm in dapper and the same scanner in breezy was recognized everytime
[10:10] <zetor> Larsson-Sweden: try Xubuntu if you feel Ubuntu is heavy
[10:10] <Yoric> My computer feels very slow since about one week.
[10:10] <babis85> markoz: no a local
[10:10] <Larsson-Sweden> Jowi, P4 1.5ghz
[10:10] <ButzaW> Can I run wine on a liveCD?
[10:10] <Yoric> Is this a common occurrence ?
[10:10] <jirc> hello can anyone help :), How do you make or install X Server to UBuntu 6.06 so that i can connect via putty on windiws/linux over the internet using SSH and X11 Forwarding to allow a fully GUI remote desktop?
[10:10] <Yoric> (Dapper Drake, btw)
[10:11] <Jowi> Larsson-Sweden: P4 should use 686, yes.
[10:11] <markoz> babis85: do you have cups installed ?
[10:11] <sharms> jirc - have you looked into VNC?
[10:11] <oezguer> helppppp
[10:11] <baconbacon> jirc: sudo apt-get openssh-server (?)
[10:11] <Larsson-Sweden> Jowi, would be sweet with a 686 version of Ubuntu then!
[10:11] <apokryphos> !helpme
[10:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:11] <oezguer> how can I liste web radio from internet sites???
[10:11] <babis85> markoz: yes
[10:12] <sharms> oezguer - if it is a winamp feed use xmms or rythembox
[10:12] <Gorlist> Hi,
[10:12] <ButzaW> Can WINE be run through the livecd?
[10:12] <sverzel> thanks people, I get it now. Think it's solved.
[10:12] <sverzel> later!
[10:12] <jirc> bacon is it that simple?
[10:12] <sharms> ButzaW - not 100% sure, but I don't believe so
[10:12] <saik0> !tell Jowi about freenx
[10:12] <markoz> babis85: can you describe from the beggining what you do ?
[10:12] <sharms> !tell Sharms about freenx
[10:12] <Moocasso> I'm trying to install the libc6-dev  package, but every time I try to install it, it tells me it's missing the dependency libc6, but libc6 is installed, version 2.4-1ubuntu6
[10:12] <Jowi> Larsson-Sweden: you can install a 686 kernel at least.
[10:12] <Jowi> saik0: ???
[10:12] <baconbacon> jirc: well for the server side it's about it (default config may not be alcatraz secure)
[10:12] <jirc> bacon i do that, then set the server up using remote desktop and configure settings there? I mean how would you configure your password etc?
[10:12] <Gorlist> Have to ask, is their anything that needs to be runned in Ubuntu like Disk defrag?
[10:13] <ButzaW> I  once did an experiment, got Mandrake running and everything, but the dualbooting got me frustrated and I quit ;(
[10:13] <Gorlist> (sorry still new to it all :) )
[10:13] <Larsson-Sweden> Jowi, yep, have done that. Would be very cool with 686 packages. Im wondering why this isnt aviable.
[10:13] <baconbacon> Gorlist: no defrag in linux
[10:13] <sharms> Gorlist, defragging is not needed with ext3 or reiserfs
[10:13] <Gorlist> right!
[10:13] <hcjc92> is there realvnc for linux, cause i need something with a java client
[10:13] <saik0> Jowi, remote X11 over ssh is horrificly slow
[10:13] <jirc> sharms i dont know how to encrypt VNC traffic
[10:13] <jirc> with linux
[10:13] <Gorlist> thats good
[10:13] <Gorlist> thanks
[10:13] <empiric> any works install high point rocket raid on kubuntu
[10:13] <saik0> Jowi. oh hahaha. wrong nic
[10:13] <kitche> hcjc92: realvnc is for linux mostly
[10:13] <sharms> jirc - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[10:13] <jirc> with windows to windows sharms yeah
[10:13] <Jowi> saik0: so? why are you telling me? ;)
[10:13] <jirc> sharms
[10:13] <jirc> freenx dont work for me, I just get killed by signal 15
[10:14] <kitche> hcjc92 not usre if ubuntu has a package for it though
[10:14] <saik0> !tell jirc about freenx
[10:14] <flo_> Type /server irc.NoDramaIRC.net
[10:14] <hcjc92> kitche: **** it doesn't :( oh well
[10:14] <babis85> markoz: i am trying to configure a parameter for the printer using the web-based cups but it wants login, and it doesn't accept my username and password
[10:14] <sharms> jirc - you can also tunnel VNC over ssh, but it takes a few more commands that I don't have at hand
[10:14] <kitche> hcjc92: just download it and compile
[10:14] <baconbacon> hcjc92: can you use the ubuntu remote desktop, which is vnc
[10:14] <jirc> it looks like its going to work as well gets passed authentication and everything but just hangs, session failed all the time
[10:14] <Yoric> Do I take it that noone has had this feeling of sluggishness in the recent past ?
[10:14] <jirc> i would love to use freenx but, simply never worked for me
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[10:15] <Sub> i have a laptop with a 1.15ghz intel processor, should i be using the 686 kernel?
[10:15] <baconbacon> Yoric: ive been pretty tired over the last few days indeed
[10:15] <ButzaW> If I have AMD Athlon 2800+ listed in Windows' my computer, then I need the 64-bit ubuntu install, right?
[10:15] <oezguer> Thanks! :) But I mean listening any radio from web sites without xmms....
[10:15] <Yoric> baconbacon, :)
[10:15] <Sub>  ButzaW no
[10:15] <ButzaW> whoops
[10:15] <sharms> ButzaW - I would recommend 32-bit
[10:15] <Akbar> ButzaW, no
[10:15] <ButzaW> I meant AMD 64
[10:15] <Sub> ButzaW, i have that processor, it is an x86 processor.
[10:15] <ButzaW> it says amd 64
[10:16] <saik0> jirc, Out of curiosity, were you logging in using a windows client?
[10:16] <ButzaW> still no?
[10:16] <Akbar> aah, then yeah you could
[10:16] <Sub> ButzaW, oh i didnt kno there was a 2800 64.
[10:16] <sharms> ButzaW - 64 bit is fun, but it cannot run certain plugins yet like flash or some multimedia codecs
[10:16] <Yoric> baconbacon, other than that, any idea where to start looking for the source of sluggishness on my Ubuntu box ?
[10:16] <Sub> thought they started at 3000
[10:16] <hcjc92> is RPM redhat packages?
[10:16] <sharms> ButzaW - I have several AMD 64's that I run 32-bit on
[10:16] <ButzaW> so 32 either way
[10:16] <Jowi> Larsson-Sweden: wouldn't be much use for me though, having a c3 cpu here. 386 is good enough for most people (including me). I did however compile my own kernel, removed some unuseful stuff from boot (lvm etc), replaced gnome with openbox and gdm with slim. now I have a *very* lean system comparable to a slackware install.
[10:16] <ButzaW> mmkay
[10:16] <saik0> hcjc92, short answer: yes
[10:16] <Akbar> you could use flash in a chroot right?
[10:16] <markoz> on ubuntu only root can configure via web but root is locked in ubuntu. try with System - Administration - Printing
[10:16] <jirc> yes saik0
[10:16] <Akbar> in a 32 bits jail
[10:16] <sharms> Akbar - you could but if he doesn't use linux now, then I doubt he wants the hassle
[10:17] <Jowi> hcjc92: mandriva uses RPM as well I believe
[10:17] <Moocasso> I'm trying to install the libc6-dev  package, but every time I try to install it, it tells me it's missing the dependency libc6, but libc6 is installed, version 2.4-1ubuntu6, does anybody have any ideas?  I'm trying to do this so I can install build-essentials so I can compile a program...
[10:17] <jirc> using a windows client as thats the whole point I want to login from windows to unix, although unix to unix would suffice but im sure that didnt work as well, hmm worth a re try i guess
[10:17] <hcjc92> whats the unzip tar.gz files comand
[10:17] <jirc> can you do apt-get on freenx? last time i had to install 5 seperate debs
[10:17] <Akbar> Moocasso, mixed repositories?
[10:17] <rougeagle> ok, somehow I seem to have made my ubuntu dapper system 6.06 system buggy and I don't know why
[10:17] <sharms> hcjc92, tar xvfz tar.gz
[10:17] <mc__> jirc, man tar
[10:17] <saik0> jirc, I had a problem from a windows client that is exactly the same as what you said.
[10:17] <kitche> hcjc92: tar -xvf
[10:17] <Moocasso> I'm sorry, I'm a bit of a n00b so I'm not sure how you mean Akbar
[10:17] <mc__> !rtfm
[10:17] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[10:17] <baconbacon> Yoric: id say first look at gnome-system-monitor and gnome-system-log
[10:17] <sharms> kitche, no you need a z if its a gzip file
[10:18] <saik0> jirc, it's in Seveas' repo if you want to add that
[10:18] <Sub> i have a 1024x768 LCD, how do i make usplash and the text terminal fullscreen?
[10:18] <Yoric> baconbacon, gnome-system-monitor: nothing shocking.
[10:18] <kitche> sharms I never need z switch
[10:18] <mc__> omg ubotu  doesnt like rtfm
[10:18] <rougeagle> I can no longer open totem, I can no longer play dvd's w/ any application, and my network interfaces no longer function
[10:18] <Yoric> baconbacon, system log => syslog : nothing shocking either
[10:18] <jirc> well i enabled that and tried to get it dont think it worked saki0, so unix to unix for for you?
[10:18] <compengi> what is the best firewall software?
[10:18] <mc__> something is wrong with the ubuntu  world
[10:18] <babis85> markoz: i must use cups instead that because i have noticed that if i change this parameter from system-administration->printing nothing happens
[10:18] <Akbar> Moocasso, what version of libc6 does libc6-dev require?
[10:18] <lucasvo> compengi: iptables and fwbuilder
[10:18] <sharms> kitche, if he ever uses another system it might not work though, and confusion will result
[10:18] <mc__> compengi, nufw is awfull
[10:19] <saik0> jirc, Unix to * exept on one Windows box has worked great for me
[10:19] <Jowi> Sub: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer (see the bottom of the page)
[10:19] <compengi> lucasvo, what do you use
[10:19] <kitche> sharms: think tar recongizes the gzip thing automatically now
[10:19] <compengi> ?
[10:19] <Sub> Jowi, thanks man
[10:19] <reztho> someone here tried to use a canon lide scanner?
[10:19] <flo>  i want to record a desktop sesion with cinelerra, i just want to know , the desktop is /dev/???
[10:19] <kitche> sharms: I knowwith bzip2 it doesn't understand that
[10:19] <saik0> jirc, It was'nt my box and I didnt have time to troubleshoot, which was why i asked
[10:19] <lucasvo> compengi: iptables is a part of the linux kernel, fwbuilder is a GUI, so I use both
[10:19] <ButzaW> so are Kubuntu and Ubuntu exactly the same, only with different GUIs?
[10:19] <Seveas> flo, you can't do that with cinelerra...
[10:19] <lucasvo> compengi: search for fwbuilder on google
[10:19] <markoz> babis85: if you want to do it your way you have to enable root accout
[10:19] <Seveas> ButzaW, more or less
[10:20] <ButzaW> which is better? hehe
[10:20] <sharms> kitche, yeah it definately recognizes .gz, but since the manual still says use the -z it is possible if he switches to fedora or another system it won't be consistent
[10:20] <Moocasso> IAkbar:  Ohhh, it says 2.3.6 0ubuntu20, I have 2.4-1ubuntu6
[10:20] <jirc> ok saik0 well i will re try it now from nix to nix, let you know the results :)
[10:20] <r00kette> babis85::: have you tried making a root?
[10:20] <markoz> babis85: is your printer detected by the kernel ?
[10:20] <saik0> ButzaW, look out you might start another desktop war ;)
[10:20] <saik0> ButzaW, It's a matter of personal preference
[10:20] <ButzaW> I assumed so :o
[10:20] <Sub> Jowi, i jus added vga=791, and ran update-grub, mustve done it wrong, ill try again
[10:21] <babis85> markoz: i think that if i could add mysef in a specifc group, i would  make it
[10:21] <Moocasso> Akbar: Is that not the right version then?  Is there some upgrade I need?
[10:21] <Jowi> Sub: you do not have to run update-grub. just save menu.lst and reboot.
[10:21] <babis85> markoz: yes it has been detected
[10:21] <Shizboom> if i have an ntfs partition is there anyway to reformat it to e3 or fat32 without deleting the contents?
[10:21] <Seveas> Moocasso, put your sources.list on the pastebin before doing *anything*
[10:22] <Seveas> if you mess up libc6 you may have to reinstall
[10:22] <Jowi> Shizboom: no
[10:22] <baconbacon> Shizboom: sorry but no afaik
[10:22] <Moocasso> Seveas:  I'm not sure what you mean...I'm new at Linux :(
[10:22] <saik0> Shizboom, not without moving it to a temporary location, or using some sort of non-free tool
[10:22] <Sub> Jowi, itz on the kernel line but it still has a lil 640x480 screen. hmmmm.
[10:22] <Shizboom> :<
[10:22] <hcjc92> anyone here running realvnc, cause i can't get it to work
[10:22] <sharms> Just on a side note, I finally got my shipit cd's today, and those stickers rock
[10:22] <Akbar> Moocasso, that's really weird.. your version is newer than the -dev package require?
[10:22] <Seveas> Moocasso, there is a file called /etc/apt/sources.list - please paste its contents on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:22] <Shizboom> hcjc - i'm running vnc off the included remote desktop
[10:22] <Jowi> Sub: the grub *menu* will still be that resolution, but when you boot it should change
[10:22] <Moocasso> seems to be...
[10:22] <Moocasso> k
[10:23] <Jowi> Sub: if it does not, see if you can set the resolution in your BIOS
[10:23] <Sub> Jowi, jus tried, usplash and the tty's is still 640x480, i have a crippled toshiba, the bios can only be edited from windows xp.
[10:24] <Sub> Jowi, but i know there is no option to change it in there
[10:24] <decaf> in which package is the default mouse theme of gnome?
[10:24] <Moocasso> Seveas: Pasted
[10:24] <markoz> to enable root just type on web forum root and you will find it. think is just passwd root, but not sure.
[10:24] <hcjc92> ./vncserver: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory                any idea what i need to do?
[10:24] <Seveas> !find libstdc++
[10:24] <ubotu> Found: libstdc++5, libstdc++5-3.3-dev, libstdc++6, libstdc++6-4.0-dbg, libstdc++6-4.0-dev (and 12 others)
[10:24] <Jowi> Sub: see if your changes in menu.lst is still there
[10:24] <blo> Hi all,
[10:24] <blo> I'm a newbie to linux and generally very very happy to be free of the microsoft chains....
[10:24] <blo> ...But I have one semi-major issue with my graphics card- direct rendering is not working and performance is generally terrible. I am trying to run projectM (an amarok visualizer) and it works fine very small but when i increase the size of the window it becomes unbelieveably slow...like 2 fps. glxgears has a similiar issue.
[10:24] <blo> I have the i810 graphics driver installed. I went to the intel website and found what i think is the right driver for my card. I downloaded the tar but am wondering if anyone can guide me through installing it? there are no instructions. it has an "install.sh" file, among others..
[10:24] <markoz> babis85: tell me what is your printer
[10:25] <Seveas> hcjc92, install libstdc++6
[10:25] <Cabbage> Hello again. I've returned.
[10:25] <Seveas> Moocasso, that one looks safe, try this to update your system:
[10:25] <Cabbage> I was wondering, Zdra, if you are back now, if you've firgured out my problem.
[10:25] <Akbar> blo, that kinda card do you have?
[10:25] <Seveas> sudo apt-get update
[10:25] <Seveas> sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:25] <Akbar> *what
[10:25] <Seveas> (you need to do both, in this order)
[10:26] <blo> akbar- an intel 845g
[10:26] <Moocasso> okay
[10:26] <aaspurug> Hi All, after updating to the latest version (6.06), my NetworkManager refuses to connect to my universiy's open network. The syslog has some clues that it might be a wpasupplicant problem, is there a NetworkManager expert here? Here is the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17449
[10:26] <Zdra> Cabbage: yes sorry I had an electric cut
[10:26] <Cabbage> Zdra: It's all good =)
[10:27] <Moocasso> Seveas:  Both actions resulted in "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[10:27] <Zdra> Cabbage: happy to see you fixed your problem ;)
[10:27] <blo> akbar- specifically i can't do direct rendering
[10:27] <Cabbage> Zdra: Heh, well not quite.
[10:27] <Seveas> Moocasso, if you have synaptic open: close it 
[10:27] <markoz> babis85: are you still here ?
[10:27] <Cabbage> Zdra: I was actually wondering if you had an epiphany.
[10:27] <Moocasso> doh, lol
[10:27] <moulinex> Any HiFi specialist? Can i get SPDIF output working if i use ESD Sound Daemon (selected from multimedia selector)
[10:27] <Seveas> and then try again
[10:27] <Cabbage> Zdra: woah
[10:27] <Cabbage> Zdra: actually
[10:27] <cwillu> K^Holtz: still therE?
[10:27] <Cabbage> Zdra: After a reboot it seems to be working.
[10:28] <Cabbage> Zdra: haha, sweet deal. Thanks very much =)
[10:28] <Zdra> Cabbage: great :D
[10:28] <blo> seveas- did you kick me off the channel?
[10:28] <Commander-Crowe> when compiling bison2.3
[10:28] <K^Holtz> cwillu: yea
[10:28] <Commander-Crowe> it says that c compiler can't make executibles
[10:28] <Commander-Crowe> and it stops
[10:28] <Commander-Crowe> how do I fix that/
[10:28] <jrib> Commander-Crowe: install build-essential ?
[10:29] <Cabbage> Zdra: How about this one.. I can usually run at 1280x1024 (Screen resolution), but now I can only go 1024x768. Any ideas?
[10:29] <cwillu> K^Holtz:  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/52266
[10:29] <Seveas> blo, for pasting a lot...
[10:29] <WooD> is there any software to burn .dmg image file on Ubuntu ?
[10:29] <babis85> markoz: yes, sorry, i don't think so that the model has anything to do, but it is a hp laserjet 1012
[10:29] <Moocasso> Seveas:  Now I got "Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main pmount 0.9.11-1ubuntu1   404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 
[10:29] <Moocasso> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pmount/pmount_0.9.11-1ubuntu1_i386.deb  404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80]  E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? "
[10:29] <cwillu> K^Holtz: might want to peek, comment, vote, etc :p
[10:29] <Commander-Crowe> howdo i download it?>
[10:29] <Seveas> !compiling > Commander-Crowe
[10:29] <Seveas> Moocasso, ddi you run apt-get update before running apt-get upgrade?
[10:29] <Sub> Commander-Crowe, no need to compile bison
[10:29] <jrib> Commander-Crowe: use synaptic or apt-get, build-essential is a package
[10:29] <Moocasso> yes
[10:29] <hareem> how can i setup a lockdown of my ubuntu pc
[10:29] <Sub> Commander-Crowe, just apt-get it
[10:29] <Commander-Crowe> seveas: I know how to compile
[10:29] <Moocasso> didn't get any error messages with it
[10:29] <Sub> "sudo apt-get install bison"
[10:29] <markoz> well maybe it is I had probles with my hp 1020
[10:29] <Seveas> Commander-Crowe, no, if you knew you wouldn't ask...
[10:29] <Commander-Crowe> can't
[10:30] <Commander-Crowe> no internet
[10:30] <blo> seveas- sorry, this is my first time using irc. don't know the protocol.
[10:30] <markoz> it was a firmare problem
[10:30] <jrib> Commander-Crowe: it is on the install cd
[10:30] <Commander-Crowe> what is?
[10:30] <jrib> Commander-Crowe: build-essential
[10:30] <Commander-Crowe> build essentails?
[10:30] <Cntryboy> Anyone know how to start gwenrename?
[10:30] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[10:30] <Commander-Crowe> I'll check it out
[10:30] <markoz> babis85: think could be the same thing
[10:30] <hcjc92> ./vncserver: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory                any idea what i need to do? i looked at the search someone did, and i did it myself and i got them (already had them), still doens't work
[10:30] <Sub> Commander-Crowe, "build-essential"
[10:30] <vito> I have a mystery machine on my home wireless network..anyone know how to go about figuring out who/what it is?
[10:31] <ButzaW> ...Why is there no checksum for the install CD ISO on the website?
[10:31] <Seveas> hcjc92, libstdc++6 installed?
[10:31] <Sub> vito, send it messages
[10:31] <hcjc92> yup
[10:31] <babis85> markoz: what do you mean?
[10:31] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[10:31] <SonicChao> !anyone > Cntryboy
[10:31] <vito> Sub, what do you mean?
[10:31] <cwillu> what's the command to show drive information from the terminal?
[10:31] <Sub> vito, google "windows messenger" or "netsend"
[10:31] <kitche> vito: secure your wireless, it's kinda bad to have it open to everyone
[10:31] <Moocasso> Seveas:  I did run update first, didn't seem to give me any errors
[10:31] <Seveas> hcjc92, ah, my bad, it's in libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[10:31] <hareem> can some one tell me how can i lockdown my ubuntu pc
[10:31] <hareem> please
[10:31] <Cntryboy> sonicchao: i know how this channel works, ive asked my question
[10:32] <jrib> ButzaW: http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/MD5SUMS is this it?
[10:32] <Seveas> hareem, have a look at sabayon and pessulus
[10:32] <Sub> vito, itll freak/him her if a message pops up saying "THIS IS A GOVERNMENT NETOWORK, LOG OFF IMMEDIATELY OR FACE FEDERAL CHARGES" :D
[10:32] <markoz> babis85: i solved my problem installing a new firmware
[10:32] <hcjc92> thanks Seveas
[10:32] <Cntryboy> sonicchao: instead of posting that you could have answered my question right? yah
[10:32] <kitche> most people don't even have messenger or netsend working anymore sub
[10:32] <Jowi> lol Sub
[10:32] <SonicChao> Sub: I once got that message before!
[10:32] <kitche> sp2 kills them
[10:32] <SonicChao> XD!
[10:32] <Sub> SonicChao, :P
[10:32] <SonicChao> Sub: I closed my Download manager so fast...
[10:32] <Sub> been wardriving have we? :D
[10:32] <ButzaW> jrib: yes. But it should be more accessible from the main page, I think...
[10:32] <SonicChao> I remember that
[10:32] <K^Holtz> cwillu: i feel honored to be part of a bug report.. unfortunately i'm on the wrong side of it :) haha
[10:33] <hcjc92> now, this is odd, it starts up, and the says Aborted
[10:33] <vito> well, I've been using Nmap to get some info on it--and it all scanned ports are closed. The other machines make sense, they are mine or the roommates
[10:33] <hareem> thanks Seveas
[10:33] <K^Holtz> cwillu: you seem to have covered all the bases
[10:33] <jrib> ButzaW: it's on the download page before you click to download, but you could submit a bug I suppose
[10:33] <babis85> markoz: Had the same problem as mine?
[10:33] <vito> <--- very new to nmap
[10:33] <Seveas> hcjc92, then you probably need to switch to the ubuntu vnc packages
[10:33] <Cntryboy> How can I get my gwenrename to start up
[10:33] <Sub> vito, enable WEP on the network
[10:33] <Sub> or at least hide your SSID
[10:33] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[10:33] <Sub> not much
[10:33] <Commander-Crowe> I got that installe
[10:33] <Moocasso> Seveas:  Any other ideas?  I did run update first, it gave me no error messages
[10:33] <Sub> but stops the freeloaders
[10:34] <Sub> who are lazy
[10:34] <hcjc92> Seveas, i know, but i need a java vnc applet, andthats the only one i know of
[10:34] <Jowi> vito: wireless or wired network? if wireless, block the mac address in your router
[10:34] <Commander-Crowe> dbut now it gives me another error
[10:34] <cwillu> how do I display free space on a hd from bash?
[10:34] <Sub> Commander-Crowe, with build-essential you should be able to compile no problems
[10:34] <SonicChao> Cntryboy: What happens when you type "gwenrename" into a terminal?
[10:34] <Seveas> hcjc92, you could also try FreeNX 
[10:34] <Commander-Crowe> "need libxaw header files"
[10:34] <markoz> babis85: i also could not print after i configured the printer
[10:34] <Sub> cwillu, df
[10:34] <cwillu> thanks
[10:34] <erUSUL> cwillu: df -h
[10:34] <Seveas> Moocasso, odd, maybe you should use a more complete sources.list like the one on paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[10:34] <Commander-Crowe> I tried to install it
[10:34] <ButzaW> oh right, it is. Just in a small text in the bottom of page
[10:34] <babis85> markoz: but i am able to print, but i can't print double side
[10:34] <Cntryboy> sonicchao: is ask to specify a file, but gwenrename has a gui, I don't want to do everything in terminal
[10:34] <Commander-Crowe> but its already installed
[10:34] <Sub> cwillu, yes the -h is probably easier actually
[10:35] <markoz> babis85: i looked on the web forum try to see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200179&highlight=hp+firmware
[10:35] <SonicChao> Cntryboy: Okay, sorry...can't help other than that
[10:35] <Commander-Crowe> I THINK I"M GONNA SWITCH BACK TO SUSE
[10:35] <cwillu> Sub: whichever, I'm in a shell in the alt install figuring out why it won't finish :)
[10:35] <hcjc92> freenx?
[10:35] <cwillu> guess 1.3gb isn't quite enough?
[10:35] <SonicChao> Commander-Crowe: Go ahead, no one is stopping you.
[10:35] <Sub> cwillu, you need 2gb.
[10:35] <Commander-Crowe> na
[10:35] <rougeagle> my problem was with my /etc/network/interfaces file, I edited it improperly
[10:35] <Jowi> vito: mac filtering is quite efficiant (yes, you can fake a mac address if you want but most wouldn
[10:35] <Jowi> t
[10:35] <Commander-Crowe> I like the new Ubuntu look and feel
[10:35] <apokryphos> Commander-Crowe: please don't be annoying.
[10:36] <Commander-Crowe> I'm addicted already
[10:36] <cwillu> Sub:  yep;  I've got 4 across two drives, but the partitioning wasn't quite right to make it work
[10:36] <saik0> !tell hcjc92 about freenx
[10:36] <Sub> cwillu, 2gb is the smallest install, unless you use xubuntu
[10:36] <markoz> babis85: have to go
[10:36] <SonicChao> Commander-Crowe: Well that don't make "threats", they really aren't threatening. And they don't get you attention.
[10:36] <theapoc> How can I find what version of Nvidia drivers I have installed?
[10:36] <Moocasso> Seveas:  So after switched to that sources.list, do I need to restart or just try again?
[10:36] <Cabbage> Mk, just a general question everyone: Right now, the max screen resolution I can set to is 1024x768. Anyone have any insight as I can push this up to 1280x1024? I'm using a gforce xfx 7600
[10:37] <Seveas> Moocasso, restarting is a windows action 
[10:37] <babis85> markoz: ok thanks for your help
[10:37] <Commander-Crowe> I don't want attention
[10:37] <Seveas> just use apt-get update to use it
[10:37] <Commander-Crowe> I want to find the files i need
[10:37] <Moocasso> Okay
[10:37] <Jowi> Cabbage: what does your monitor support?
[10:37] <erUSUL> 
[10:37] <Cntryboy> sonicchao: okay how can i uninstall gwenrename then? sudo aptitude uninstall gwenrename?
[10:37] <Commander-Crowe> and I think I got it
[10:37] <Cabbage> It supports 1280x1024 for sure. I use it when I dual boot windows.
[10:37] <Cabbage> Oops.. forgot the name tag Jowi. sorry
[10:38] <Sub> Cabbage, two ways
[10:38] <Moocasso> Seveas:  Okay, tried update and upgrade, no errors except some about Perl not finding my locale and such, falling back on defaults, but seems to have worked, now try install libc6-dev again?
[10:38] <SonicChao> Cntryboy: that sounds about right
[10:38] <apokryphos> Commander-Crowe: ok, but please do not use caps like that in the future.
[10:38] <Jowi> Cabbage: 1. install correct driver if needed. 2. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:38] <Cntryboy> cabbage: you will prob. need to edit the xorg.conf file
[10:38] <cwillu> okay, 2.1 for /, 500 for swap and 800 for /home;  lets see if this works
[10:38] <Cntryboy> or reconfigure X and choose the resolutions u need
[10:38] <Seveas> Moocasso, first try: apt-get update
[10:38] <Commander-Crowe> oh ok
[10:38] <Sub> Cabbage, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, add the resoltuons in , or run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and follow the prompts
[10:38] <apokryphos> cwillu: no, you'll need quite a bit more than that for /
[10:38] <Seveas> Moocasso i meant, first try: apt-get upgrade
[10:38] <apokryphos> cwillu: even if a default install is around that size.
[10:38] <cwillu> apokryphos: that's the size of that drive
[10:38] <Moocasso> done already
[10:39] <Cabbage> Alright I will try these methods. Thanks guys
[10:39] <Seveas> upgrade too?
[10:39] <Moocasso> yep
[10:39] <apokryphos> cwillu: how much space do you have?
[10:39] <Seveas> ok, then try it again
[10:39] <W8TAH> hi folks - is it possible to download a copy of Breezy someplace?  I need to do some maintainance and im not ready to upgrade the system and it wants an installer disk
[10:39] <rougeagle> what source listing in /etc/apt/sources.list will give me the ability to apt-get libdvdcss2?
[10:39] <Moocasso> Okay, thanks :)
[10:39] <jirc> with FReenx, you log in as the actualy users root and so forth, so if your logged in as one name on the server then connect with that persons credentials does it work?
[10:39] <W8TAH> im not finding the disk on the site at this point
[10:39] <cwillu> apokryphos: that much on the one drive, and 1.3 on the second drive
[10:39] <Cntryboy> sonicchao: when I tried that command it said: This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers.
[10:39] <Seveas> W8TAH, http://releases.ubuntu.com
[10:39] <cwillu> I know I know
[10:39] <W8TAH> Seveas, excellent -- thanks
[10:39] <jrib> W8TAH: what exactly needs the installer disk?
[10:39] <cwillu> apokryphos: I'm hoping to have network boots to replace this right away anyway
[10:39] <W8TAH> im doing an upgrade of Konversation and it wants an installer disk for some reason
[10:39] <Commander-Crowe> wherer do I find libxaw header files?
[10:39] <Cntryboy> remove
[10:39] <Cntryboy> i bet is what I need
[10:39] <Moocasso> Seveas:  Same error :(
[10:39] <W8TAH> going from .18 to .19
[10:40] <Seveas> Moocasso, apt-cache policy libc6
[10:40] <Seveas> and put the output on the pastebin website
[10:40] <Sub> Commander-Crowe, libxaw-dev??
[10:40] <apokryphos> !packages
[10:40] <ubotu> You can browse and search the packages in Ubuntu in synaptic, adept and online on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:40] <Cntryboy> yup remove not uninstall
[10:40] <jrib> W8TAH: just remove the disc from /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-sudo get update
[10:40] <apokryphos> Commander-Crowe: check what ubotu said
[10:40] <jamon> hello, has anyone managed to get macromedia fireworks MX installed and running ok under wine? I'm havin' sum bother
[10:40] <W8TAH> jrib, hummm -- ok
[10:40] <Commander-Crowe> I got that already Sub
[10:40] <Commander-Crowe> but it still gives error
[10:41] <Moocasso> Seveas:  results "libc6:  Installed: 2.4-1ubuntu6  Candidate: 2.4-1ubuntu6  Version table: *** 2.4-1ubuntu6 0        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status     2.3.6-0ubuntu20 0        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages"
[10:41] <Sub> Commander-Crowe, what are you trying to compile?
[10:41] <compengi> can i update ubuntu 5 to ubuntu 6 by using a ubuntu 6 cd?
[10:41] <Commander-Crowe> bision2.3
[10:41] <Seveas> Moocasso, that IS odd...
[10:41] <Sub> compengi, yes with the alternative install CD
[10:41] <jrib> W8TAH: yeah except I meant sudo apt-get update... not the weird thing I wrote before
[10:41] <compengi> Sub, how can this be done?
[10:41] <Moocasso> Seveas:  Lol, I'm not incredibly comforted by this :)  Should I perhaps try reinstalling Ubuntu?  Maybe I've made some huge mistake?
[10:41] <W8TAH> jrib, thanks -- LOL
[10:41] <Seveas> Moocasso, apt-get -o"Debug::PkgProblemSolver=True" install libc6-dev
[10:41] <compengi> Sub, what do i need to do?
[10:41] <Seveas> and put the output on the pastebin website
[10:42] <Sub> compengi, not sure, i just remember reading it when i went to download the alternative install CD.
[10:42] <Seveas> Moocasso, no, we're going to solve this 
[10:42] <Sub> compengi, you probably boot, it detects the old install and updates it.
[10:42] <Moocasso> Seveas:  Thanks :)  Any ideas what we can try next?
[10:42] <hareem> does any one know where i can download automatix from
[10:42] <bobesponja> I have a problem with my apache, it just wont start evem when I do /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[10:42] <compengi> Sub, i want to know for sure
[10:42] <bobesponja> any idea whats wrong?
[10:42] <jrib> !automatix
[10:42] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[10:42] <rougeagle> apt-get update allowed me to install libdvdcss2
[10:42] <monomaniacpat> is it possible to stop a module loading once it has been installed, or will I have to move the .ko file?
[10:42] <Seveas> Moocasso, I just typed it 
[10:42] <K^Holtz> any of you know why there is a sold red light that goes across the xchat screen ever so often? i have been wondering this for a few days now
[10:43] <Seveas> hareem, we don't support system-breakers like automatix in here
[10:43] <Sub> compengi, google "ubuntu update alternative install cd"
[10:43] <Moocasso> oh
[10:43] <hareem> system breakers ?
[10:43] <alinushak> ?
[10:43] <Seveas> hareem, automatix already broke many, many peoples machines...
[10:43] <Sub> hareem, automatix uses --force, so it can break your system
[10:43] <theapoc> How can I find what version of Nvidia's drivers I have installed?
[10:43] <monomaniacpat> hareem: automatix is thought to be unsafe because it installs programs regardless of any dependencies you may have
[10:43] <Sub> hareem, try easyubuntu, itz safer
[10:44] <Sub> !easyubuntu
[10:44] <Cabbage> Ok, when doing the configuration tool, how do I select resolutions I would like to use..
[10:44] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:44] <Moocasso> Seveas:  Some packages could not be installed, also said "The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (=2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.4-1ubuntu6 is to be installedE: Broken packages"
[10:44] <Shizboom> anyone have experience with automatix?
[10:44] <cypher1> !automatix
[10:44] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[10:44] <Commander-Crowe> oh well
[10:44] <Seveas> Moocasso, ah, you did something with edgy packages....
[10:44] <Commander-Crowe> should I try an older bision?
[10:44] <monomaniacpat> is it possible to stop a module loading once it has been installed, or will I have to move the .ko file?
[10:44] <theapoc> How can I find what version of Nvidia's drivers I have installed?
[10:44] <Cald> hello
[10:44] <Moocasso> Seveas:  I broke it?  Lol
[10:45] <Sub> Commander-Crowe, bison is in the "build-essential" package
[10:45] <Moocasso> Seveas:  I guess that's how you learn :P
[10:45] <Seveas> Moocasso, in that case reinstalling from a dapper iso would be best -- edgy is NOT suitable for inexperienced users yet
[10:45] <Cabbage> How do I select different options for screen resolutions in xserver-xorg ?
[10:45] <monomaniacpat> theapoc: it will be listed in synaptic if you checkinstalled it
[10:45] <Paradoxx> whats the eubuntu developer channel?
[10:45] <Seveas> Paradoxx, #edubuntu
[10:45] <Paradoxx> ubuntu*
[10:45] <Cald> how can i edit or delete the message "To run a command as administrator etc..." in the shell plz ?
[10:45] <Moocasso> Seveas:  Okay...how do I do that?  Lol
[10:45] <theapoc> monomaniacpat: I didn't install it that way, I installed it via .run file
[10:45] <Paradoxx> Seveas, whatst he develper channel for ubuntu?
[10:45] <compengi> which one is better and more preferable as a firewall a firestarter or fwbuilder
[10:46] <Seveas> Moocasso, grab an ubuntu 6.06 cd, pop it in your machine and reboot
[10:46] <SurfnKid> ih guys
[10:46] <hareem> where can i get this easyubuntu
[10:46] <Seveas> it'll launch an installer
[10:46] <SurfnKid> whats a good graphical ftp proggy in linux
[10:46] <cypher1> Paradoxx, ubuntu-devel
[10:46] <CarlFK> where can I find: gnome-clipboard-daemon ?
[10:46] <Sub> hareem, google "easyubuntu", its the first result, i forget the url
[10:46] <Moocasso> Okay, back in a few, thanks :)
[10:46] <hareem> ok thanks Sub
[10:46] <erUSUL> compengi: those are front ends for the same firewall hence none is better than the other
[10:46] <cwillu> is there anything new and cool in edgy yet?  (irc channel?)
[10:46] <Seveas> Paradoxx, why do you need them?
[10:46] <CarlFK> SurfnKid: gnome desktop does FTP - filezilla is pretty nifty too
[10:47] <Sub> cwillu, #ubuntu+1 , ask yourself :D
[10:47] <SurfnKid> gnome desktop?
[10:47] <SurfnKid> oh
[10:47] <jirc> for nx viewer (freenx) says i need libc6, any one know where this is?
[10:47] <compengi> erUSUL, and what do you suggest?
[10:47] <monomaniacpat> theapoc: next time, use checkinstall, but you should be able to check the version by checking nvidia settings
[10:47] <SurfnKid> CarlFK: duh! i forgot yes, thx
[10:47] <Commander-Crowe> Sub: If so then why isn't this working?
[10:47] <malin> k3rmit: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42862
[10:47] <theapoc> ty, found it
[10:47] <bobesponja> anyboy knows why my apache2 wont start on my fresh dapper install?
[10:47] <Cabbage> Sub: In xserver-xorg, how do I select or deselect screen resolutions?
[10:47] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[10:47] <monomaniacpat> is it possible to stop a module loading once it has been installed, or will I have to move the .ko file?
[10:47] <Paradoxx> Seveas, i want to get into ubuntu development
[10:47] <Commander-Crowe> I got over the libxaw lump
[10:47] <Seveas> Paradoxx, #ubuntu-motu is the place then
[10:48] <Paradoxx> Seveas, yea, i realised
[10:48] <Commander-Crowe> no it says it needs GNU M4
[10:48] <Seveas> jirc, you need to download a freenx package suitable for your system
[10:48] <erUSUL> compengi: firestarter is easier afaik. i use neither of them so i can't comment further
[10:48] <Seveas> jirc, if a package asks for a libc6 you don't have: delete the package
[10:48] <jirc> i have installed freenx on ububtu 6.06 now, and im connecting to it from ubuntu 6.06 locally atm then over the internet
[10:49] <compengi> erUSUL, as i can see you don't use a firewall
[10:49] <jirc> installed freenx server on this machine* that is working fine, its just the client on my other ubuntu system, as with windows using no machine client it hangs after authentication session failed, killed by signal 15, so trying to connect to it from a *nix box instead seveas
[10:50] <SurfnKid> CarlFK: wicked, thanks for the ftp info, i now remember its available
[10:50] <hcjc92> is there a browser based thing java applet thing for freenx
[10:50] <bobesponja> anyone? :(
[10:50] <Seveas> hcjc92, yes, available from nomachine.com
[10:50] <Petaris> Is there an easy way to install all the utilities I need to compile a program?
[10:50] <apokryphos> Petaris: /msg ubotu build-deb
[10:50] <apokryphos> *build-dep
[10:51] <monomaniacpat> Can someone tell me: is it possible to stop a module loading once it has been installed, or will I have to move the .ko file? Could I test a new module by putting it under an old kernel and loading that kernel from grub?
[10:51] <Petaris> apokryphos: thanks
[10:51] <CarlFK> SurfnKid: you're welcome
[10:51] <erUSUL> compengi: i use firehol. it is another "front-end". in firehol as in shorewall you canfigure the firewall with a conf file in /etc/ and not with a gui as firestarter
[10:51] <masterlinux> hi
[10:52] <Cald> how can i search a string in files in a directory using grep plz ?
[10:52] <apokryphos> Cald: grep 'some pattern' somefile
[10:52] <masterlinux> hi my friends
[10:52] <hcjc92> wait, i just looked at nomachine.com the only thing i can find is somethign to download and install....
[10:52] <masterlinux> you are a
[10:52] <Cald> ok
[10:53] <apokryphos> Cald: it's always worth checking the man pages for things like syntax :)
[10:53] <Cald> i do that but its freezing
[10:53] <judah> put on a jacket.
[10:53] <jrib> Cald: you can list multiple files: grep pattern file1 file2 ...    or you can recurse into directories: grep -R pattern directory ...
[10:53] <apokryphos> Cald: what do you mean? It freezes when you open the man page, are you sure?
[10:54] <Shizboom> hcjc92 - i dont know about any java based for it but the clients are all free to download
[10:54] <Cald> no, grep froze
[10:54] <Cald> grep "patern"
[10:54] <judah> you have to give it a file name.
[10:54] <hcjc92> Shizboom, i know, i was hoping for something i can use at school (school be evil, now installing stuff)
[10:54] <jrib> Cald: you have to give it a file to search in
[10:54] <judah> or a group of files.
[10:54] <Kootaphor> Just installed xampp-- does anyone know of an EASY way to share my files with my friends who know nothing about computers, like FTP but maybe easier?
[10:54] <kitche> hcjc92: nomachine.com is mostly for client only
[10:54] <void^> it doesn't freeze. it waits for input on stdin.
[10:54] <judah> grep -R foo *
[10:54] <monomaniacpat> Can someone tell me: is it possible to stop a module loading once it has been installed, or will I have to move the .ko file? Could I test a new module by putting it under an old kernel and loading that kernel from grub?
[10:54] <Cald> ok
[10:55] <zambaboo> guys how do i know which package provides mkraid?
[10:55] <kitche> monomaniacpat" to stop a kernel from loading you would blacklist it
[10:55] <Sub> zambaboo, search on packages.ubuntu.com
[10:55] <monomaniacpat> kitche: Howto?
[10:55] <Cabbage> Sub: In xserver-xorg, how do I select or deselect screen resolutions?
[10:55] <Jowi> monomaniacpat: rmmod to stop it
[10:55] <judah> monomaniacpat: you probably can't move modules between kernels unless they are built identically.. due to system maps that are generated.
[10:55] <Shizboom> nx is a bit more robust than vnc and requires more than 1 file :P
[10:55] <SurfnKid> CarlFK: got a problem uploading files tho, it doesnt let me
[10:55] <judah> monomaniacpat: rmmod, lsmod, modprobe are good to learn.
[10:55] <judah> monomaniacpat: along with /etc/modules
[10:56] <SurfnKid> CarlFK: is there something i have to enable to let me do that? ive authenticated successfully
[10:56] <monomaniacpat> judah: I know the others, but rmmod is new to me
[10:56] <gorski> i want to rip a dvd!
[10:56] <judah> monomaniacpat: also learning about depmod is a good idea if you build modules outside of the kernel tree.
[10:56] <zambaboo> uuuh it only shows in manpages-extra
[10:56] <zambaboo> i need the binary
[10:56] <gorski> wich program should i use?
[10:57] <IRCMonkeyx> hi to all, what is the way to install your modem in linux? writing pppoeconf in terminal? or configuring from admin/networking part??
[10:57] <Sub> Cabbage, you should get to a bit where it asks about your monitor, there you should be able to specify resolutions. if it doesnt, ill jus show you how to do it manually, itz very simple manually actually.
[10:57] <kitche> monomaniacpat rmmod is to unload a module
[10:58] <IRCMonkeyx> i have the driver, and i cant install it, it says your modem is not actiaved....
[10:58] <Wddit> s
[10:59] <jirc> using no machine nx client for windows, i get the error session startuo failed after authentication, and i cant install on ubuntu as for that libc dependecy error, what should i try/
[10:59] <jirc> ?
[10:59] <K^Holtz> any of you know why there is a sold red line that goes across the xchat screen every so often? i have been wondering this for a few days now
[10:59] <Cabbage> Sub: I am actually there right now. I just need to know how to select/deselect the boxes
[10:59] <gauros> hello
[10:59] <kitche> K^Holyz: is it when someone says your name?
[10:59] <IRCMonkeyx> hi to all, what is the way to install your modem in linux? writing pppoeconf in terminal? or configuring from admin/networking part?? i have the driver, and i cant install it, it says your modem is not actiaved....
[11:00] <K^Holtz> kitche: no, that just changes the test red.. this is a red line that goes across the chat window
[11:00] <IRCMonkeyx> pls someone answer me, i am getting crayz here cause of modem.....
[11:00] <monomaniacpat> judah: kitche: I want to set up a slightly altered module... So I need to stop them loading together. Presumably I can't just change the name of the module...?
[11:00] <kitche> IRCMonkeyx: is this modem a dsl on or no?
[11:00] <gauros> how-to-upgrade-ubntu??
[11:00] <kitche> monomaniacpat: you would blacklist it
[11:00] <monomaniacpat> gauros !apt-getupdate
[11:00] <kitche> monomaniacpat: I jsut don't know how to do it in ubuntu
[11:01] <monomaniacpat> !apt-get update
[11:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about apt-get update
[11:01] <IRCMonkeyx> kitche: it is dsl modem, globespan usb modem, i have found its driver as .deb, i installed its driver, but still it says not actiaveted
[11:01] <monomaniacpat> apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:01] <erUSUL> IRCMonkeyx: which model of modem?? either way of configuring should work
[11:01] <jrib> gauros: what version are you using now?
[11:01] <zambaboo> guys, how am i supposed to build a software raid without raidtools?
[11:01] <kitche> I usually use the termial configure
[11:02] <Cabbage> Sub: I am actually there right now. I just need to know how to select/deselect the boxes
[11:02] <gauros> i-have-an-old-version-and-it-says-it-needs-to-be-upgraded
[11:02] <malin> !apt-proxy
[11:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about apt-proxy
[11:02] <malin> :(
[11:02] <erUSUL> IRCMonkeyx: iirc you have to patch your kernel (and recompile) to make your modem work...
[11:02] <IRCMonkeyx> erusul: it is globespan virata usb adsl wan
[11:02] <jrib> gauros: what does 'lsb_release -c' say in a terminal?
[11:02] <monomaniacpat> gauros: enter this command in a terminal: uname -r
[11:03] <monomaniacpat> gauros: do what jrib says
[11:03] <compengi> when i install the firestarter it's always running or i should run it?
[11:03] <Cabbage> Sub: Guh. Space bar. I'm an idiot.
[11:03] <IRCMonkeyx> erusul: i have no idea about patciing and compiling kernel, this is my first time in linux, i saw eciadsl documents, but it is very old, i dont know hot use it
[11:04] <vegetable> Question: I've installed successfully Steam using Wine and it all went smoothly until i was trying to install counter strike. i received this error:
[11:04] <vegetable>  extension "GLX" missing on display
[11:04] <vegetable> and it says there's a problem with this file: dbghelp.dll
[11:04] <vegetable> thanks
[11:04] <IRCMonkeyx> erusul: for example it says in first step put this into kernel, i dont know how to put it into kernel
[11:05] <compengi> when i install the firestarter it's always running or i should run it?
[11:05] <erUSUL> IRCMonkeyx: have you followed this?? http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/tutorial.php
[11:06] <sharms> vegetable - did you install the video drivers for your card?
[11:06] <Commander-Crowe> now i need zlib
[11:06] <Commander-Crowe> which is installed already
[11:06] <vegetable> sharms: can you instruct me how to do so
[11:06] <vegetable> sharms: altough i think i did
[11:07] <PetroliumBomb> Having a problem with my screen fitting....I have reconfigurr xorg to native resolution 1440-900 but the bottom of my screen is just just missing by a tiny bit!Was working before re-install!
[11:07] <PetroliumBomb> Helpazoid
[11:07] <sharms> vegetable - what brand of card?
[11:07] <IRCMonkeyx> erusul: thanx for the link, did you do similar thing nowadays? because when i write "eciadsl-config-tk" nothing happens
[11:07] <Cabbage> Sub: Will I have to do a system restart to make the changes work?
[11:07] <sharms> !tell vegetable about nvidia
[11:07] <vegetable>  sharms: nvidia geforce4 mx 440
[11:08] <Daveyboy> is there anyway to skip a package install and go to the next if it hangs?
[11:08] <Zdra> vegetable: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:08] <vegetable> tnx ubotu!
[11:08] <sharms> Zdra: there is more to it than that
[11:08] <roostishaw> does anyone know what command i use to get aterm to look like this? http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=27634931844ae6d97ef456&p=screen
[11:08] <vegetable> ok
[11:08] <sharms> vegetable - read that link I sent you
[11:08] <gauros> i-have-ubuntu-5.10
[11:08] <Zdra> vegetable: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:09] <vegetable> someone sent me another thing
[11:09] <vegetable>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:09] <vegetable> this one
[11:09] <jirc> sorry but ive asked this time and again but the link you give me doesnt help, how do i root(su) in the console, never accepts my pass, you say use sudo, but i need to get it to say enter new UNIX Passwd like it once did, and im sure the command was sudo passwd but that no longer works
[11:09] <sharms> vegetable - that is what I sent you, visit there
[11:09] <vegetable> ok thanks
[11:09] <jrib> jirc: sudo uses your user password
[11:09] <sharms> jirc - root is disabled by default
[11:10] <Commander-Crowe> can i run K3b in gnome(Ubuntu)?
[11:10] <stefg> roostishaw: sudo apt-get install OSX ... :-)
[11:10] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: a whole lot of work
[11:10] <erUSUL> IRCMonkeyx: i do not have the modem so i can not try... eciadsl-config-text does work?
[11:10] <sharms> !tell jirc about root
[11:10] <jirc> my user password is same as root though is it not?
[11:10] <gnomefreak> brb
[11:10] <Commander-Crowe> anyone?
[11:10] <Commander-Crowe> anyone?
[11:10] <rixxon> is there a logfile of all login attempts?
[11:10] <Commander-Crowe> anyone?
[11:11] <sharms> jirc - please read the link
[11:11] <erUSUL> !anyone
[11:11] <jrib> Commander-Crowe: yes, and please don't repeat
[11:11] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:11] <gnomefreak> vomyes you can
[11:11] <jirc> i have
[11:11] <jirc> many times
[11:11] <gnomefreak> Commander-Crowe: yes
[11:11] <gnomefreak> brb
[11:11] <IRCMonkeyx> erusul: nerden?
[11:11] <sharms> jirc - your user password will let you use root through sudo
[11:11] <Commander-Crowe> jrib: Its the only way for people to see though
[11:11] <sharms> jirc - but your password is not root's password
[11:11] <erUSUL> IRCMonkeyx: ??
[11:11] <gauros> i-have-ubuntu-5.10-how-to-upgrade
[11:11] <roostishaw> does anyone know what command i use to get aterm to look like this? http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=27634931844ae6d97ef456&p=screen
[11:11] <jrib> Commander-Crowe: not really, it's usually an easy way to get added to people's ignore lists
[11:11] <Commander-Crowe> lol oh well
[11:12] <Jowi> Commander-Crowe: there are over 700 people in this channel. imagine if everyone was repeating themselves :)
[11:12] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, so where would i start?
[11:12] <SimzI> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210273&page=2
[11:12] <jirc> how do i open the enter new UNIX Password as i have done before whats the exact code sharms
[11:12] <jrib> !upgrade > gauros
[11:12] <sharms> !tell gauros about upgrade
[11:12] <jirc> im sure it was sudo passwd root
[11:12] <jirc> or something but doesnt work anymore
[11:12] <Commander-Crowe> lol
[11:12] <Commander-Crowe> yeah but only 50 active
[11:12] <sharms> jirc,  I will insist you read the link as it goes over that
[11:12] <rixxon> is there any log of (failed) login attempts to the machine?
[11:12] <sharms> jirc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:13] <IRCMonkeyx> erusul: sorry wrong,  problem is not txt, problem, when i try to do same thing what they say there i cant,http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/doc.php?file=eciadsl_install&doc_lang=en&view=html
[11:13] <sharms> rixxon - more /var/log/messages should have it
[11:13] <jrib> jirc: passwd lets you change your own password if that is what you want, otherwise the wiki page explains root and sudo
[11:13] <jirc> sharms it just says incorrect password
[11:13] <hareem> you folks know any other place where i can download .... easyubuntu
[11:13] <rixxon> sharms: thanks
[11:13] <sharms> jirc - what command are you running?
[11:14] <judah> rixxon: /var/log/auth.log
[11:14] <jirc> sudo passwd root
[11:14] <sharms> jirc and why are you running it
[11:14] <judah> sharms: messages doesn't log much in ubuntu.. syslog auth.log are more detailed.
[11:14] <jirc> because im sure when i did before it said enter new UNIX passwd then it worked fine
[11:14] <gauros> whos-going-to-tell-me-about-upgrading
[11:14] <jirc> but i have formatted since then
[11:14] <sharms> judah - thanks noted
[11:14] <gauros> i-spacebar-doesnt-work
[11:14] <jrib> gauros: ubotu told you, check your private messages
[11:14] <jrib> or should have told you :P
[11:15] <sharms> jirc - what reason do you have to change roots password?
[11:15] <sharms> !tell gauros about upgrade
[11:15] <gauros> okie-i-see-now-th
[11:15] <avis> how do you adjust the gnome splash screen ?
[11:15] <hareem> anyone know where i can get easyubuntu
[11:15] <jrib> !easyubuntu
[11:15] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[11:15] <judah> hareem: google.
[11:15] <hcjc92> gauros the dashes is annoying me!
[11:15] <moulinex> How to enable spdif output in ubuntu?
[11:15] <jirc> before in another dis, the root passwd was the password of the user i created, im sure it was until i changed the password, i havent had to set root for ubuntu so assumed it was the first user i created and u were supposed to change the pass later
[11:15] <sharms> avis: apt-get install gnome-splashscreen-manager
[11:16] <avis> thank you sharms
[11:16] <jirc> sorry i know, i feel such a noob dont woryr about that
[11:16] <rixxon> judah: ah thanks
[11:16] <judah> jirc: you don't have to set a root password in ubuntu
[11:16] <judah> !sudo
[11:16] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:16] <roostishaw> does anyone know what command i use to get aterm to look like this? http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=27634931844ae6d97ef456&p=screen
[11:16] <jirc> i want to access a file a config file and i need su in console to do that
[11:16] <jirc> thats why im talking about all of this
[11:16] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: please ask in 3ubuntu-offtopic
[11:17] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu-offtopic even
[11:17] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, oh, sorry.
[11:17] <sharms> jirc - you can use sudo for anything su can do
[11:17] <judah> jirc: sudo vi /etc/postfix/main.cf
[11:17] <jrib> jirc: what we are trying to get across to you is that you don't need to su at all, you don't need a root password.  If you want to run the command 'nano' as root, your type 'sudo nano' and use your own password
[11:17] <judah> jirc: sudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[11:17] <sharms> jirc,  and if that is too hard use sudo -i
[11:17] <judah> jirc: or sudo su -
[11:17] <jirc> jrib
[11:17] <judah> jirc: or sudo -s
[11:17] <judah> million ways.
[11:17] <judah> ++
[11:18] <jirc> what is that password when i want to run things then, like update, the one i have to enter, i thought that was root and that is the same password as my user account thats whyh im getting confused and thougth root was the same for that exact reason
[11:18] <judah> jirc: it's the password of the user executing sudo
[11:18] <monteiro> is there anyway with a ubuntu livecd, copy files with iso 8859-1 codification to a pen disk ? It gives me an error because of the accents. Anyone knows  ?
[11:18] <Jowi> jirc: you use the user password
[11:18] <jirc> yes jowi
[11:18] <darkyoshi372> Is there a way to remove all the ubuntu stuff while installing kubuntu-desktop?
[11:18] <judah> jirc: it's best practice to not set your root password the same as your user password.
[11:19] <jirc> but i thought to run things, you were using the root and thats why i thougth root and user have same pass
[11:19] <sharms> just stick with sudo and keep on moving.
[11:19] <jirc> because thats how it appeared
[11:19] <judah> jirc: and in ubuntu you don't even need a root password set.
[11:19] <breadmachine> cwillu: yo there
[11:19] <rixxon> and auth.log will show if someone attempted to login i.e. at the GDM login prompt?
[11:19] <nick01> hi
[11:19] <nick01> any dev in here ?
[11:19] <rixxon> nick01: #ubuntu-devel
[11:19] <jesse_> hey is it possable to add to the right click menu terminal?
[11:19] <judah> rixxon: it'll actually log attempts to login via ssh mostly.
[11:19] <jirc> judah, i have enver had to set root password, so what i dont understand now is how i can update and install thigns etc as a user
[11:19] <sharms> !tell nick01 about bugs
[11:20] <tjb891> can ubuntu resize ntfs partisains when it installs?
[11:20] <rixxon> judah: i noticed lotsa sudo activity
[11:20] <sharms> rixxon - devel isn't for end users
[11:20] <judah> jirc: you use sudo. and the password for sudo is your user password that executing sudo.
[11:20] <rixxon> sharms: he asked ;)
[11:20] <judah> !sudo
[11:20] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:20] <nick01> I know- I filed a bug report - there were confirmations but I don't know if the bug was fixed
[11:20] <jirc> isnt that insecure? that means any user can do anything? just using sudo
[11:20] <sharms> nick01 - link?
[11:20] <Jowi> jirc: the users who are in the admin group can execute sudo
[11:20] <nick01> hmm
[11:20] <nick01> wait
[11:20] <judah> jirc: auth.log will also log sudo commands.
[11:20] <Agrajag> jirc: no, only users in the admin group can use iot
[11:20] <Jowi> jirc: no one else
[11:20] <Agrajag> it
[11:20] <judah> jirc: but not attempts to gdm i think.
[11:20] <jirc> and that default user is an admin user
[11:21] <jirc> damn i never knew that
[11:21] <jesse_> tjb891: yes it can but it most likely will destructivly do it ie. the partition will lose its information
[11:21] <breadmachine> anyone have any clue why i can nslookup, ping and wget websites, but cant access them on firefox? the internet connection keeps timing out
[11:21] <sharms> jirc: its more secure this way
[11:21] <jirc> so whats the diff between root and that admin user
[11:21] <judah> jirc: type groups at the command line.
[11:21] <judah> jirc: you should be in the admin group
[11:21] <webben> breadmachine: how about elinks? ephiphany?
[11:21] <sharms> breadmachine - does links or lynx work too?
[11:21] <tjb891> are there any programs that can do it nondestructively (SUSE does it)
[11:21] <nick01> sharms, Reply-To: Bug 34508 <34508@bugs.launchpad.net>
[11:21] <judah> amoung others.
[11:21] <webben> s/ephiphany/epiphany
[11:21] <haTem> does anyone know how to get rhythmbox to play .mod/.xm/.it files? I read that gstreamer-plugins-bad 0.10.3 supports them, but they don't play in rhythmbox (nothing happens when I click play)
[11:21] <judah> jirc: auth.log also logs cron events.
[11:22] <jirc> what everything after my name is all the groups im in, or device sim allowed to run
[11:22] <Pip> You know i think that i'm going to make the switch at home from Windows to Ubunto Desktop tonight
[11:22] <Pip> wish me luck yall
[11:22] <judah> jirc: those are the groups you're in..
[11:22] <nick01> sharms, I really wanna try the new ubuntu but I'm restricted to using pure debian now
[11:22] <judah> jirc:  less /etc/group
[11:22] <breadmachine> anyone?
[11:22] <jirc> so judah as i said, how is it more secure if i can do all of that? i thought having it as a plain old user was more secure as if this account was compromised you  could still do so much, thats why im saying, what can and why is using root bad? an admin member seems to be bad also to me?
[11:23] <jesse_> tjb891: gparted http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ supposablly can do it but when editing the partition table your always best to make a back up
[11:23] <tjb891> ok
[11:23] <La_PaRCa> breadmachine, you may be behind a proxy, or have a proxy configured in firefox
[11:23] <tjb891> thx
[11:23] <nick01> sharms, 5.10 worked just fine
[11:23] <judah> jirc: because you're at least prompted for a password.. say for running scripts and what not.. but in reality if you get compromised.. you're compromised..
[11:23] <jesse_> hey is it possable to add to the right click menu terminal?
[11:24] <breadmachine> nope, no proxy, just simple DHCP, i made sre
[11:24] <dli> jesse_, what do you mean?
[11:24] <Jowi> jirc: alot of exploits involve trying to open a connection as user "root" but since it is disabled by default that exploit wont work.
[11:24] <La_PaRCa> breadmachine, you sure you dont have one configured in firefox then?
[11:24] <sharms> nick01: you will need to boot from 5.10 and dist-upgrade it
[11:24] <breadmachine> pretty sure
[11:24] <nick01> :(
[11:24] <jirc> ok thanks i think i get it more so
[11:24] <sharms> nick01: the current dapper release isos have the old kernel
[11:24] <jirc> just seems to me admin member is still insecure,
[11:24] <sharms> nick01: but the issue is fixed
[11:25] <jesse_> dli: when you right click on the desktop see how there are the options for make folder i want to add terminal to that menu
[11:25] <La_PaRCa> breadmachine, how many network interfaces?
[11:25] <nick01> shachaf, any alphas or something ?
[11:25] <nick01> sharms,
[11:25] <judah> jirc: you can argue that connecting to an irc server makes you inscure.
[11:25] <jirc> hence gain root, but if u gain admin member seems like a good catch but nm, sorry for going on
[11:25] <breadmachine> 3 total, 2 cars and 1 integrated on mobo
[11:25] <jirc> well since i been here ive been DOS and PORTSCanned 5-7 times each day.. and yeah i read the freenode network text but still
[11:25] <jirc> hmm
[11:25] <La_PaRCa> breadmachine, might have something to do with your routing I guess. Then again, I might be talking out of my butt.
[11:25] <sharms> nick01: as of right now only way to do it is just a fresh breezy install (5.10) then apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:25] <judah> jirc: and goes back to what i said before.. if you really get compromised.. you're well... compromised..
[11:25] <Jowi> jirc: if you "misplace" your own password (which has got admin access) , or roots password yes. there is no difference.
[11:26] <vegetable> sharms: about the nvidia drivers installation. im trying to figure what to do' but i just dont manage... "In the Software Sources dialog that comes up, click the Add button." i cant fing the software sorces dialog!
[11:26] <sharms> nick01: besides bootsplash all is working well
[11:26] <dli> jesse_, that should be the default
[11:26] <ProN00b> i think there should be an iBuntu distro that contains all illegal (i) stuff, like java, full codecs for everything, nvidia/ati drivers, flashplayer and so on preinstalled
[11:26] <sharms> vegetable: one sec
[11:26] <nick01> sharms, isn't there a new release with a new kernel- an alpha of the new version ?
[11:26] <La_PaRCa> breadmachine, is it the same machine you are chatting from?
[11:26] <jesse_> dli, nope
[11:26] <breadmachine> La_PaRCa: well, im using qwest DSL and an actiontec gateway
[11:26] <judah> jirc: if you have your computer in an open location and it can boot from a cdrom that's almost way more insure than anything we're talking about here.
[11:26] <sharms> nick01: no current isos have been made with it yet
[11:26] <nick01> grrr
[11:26] <nick01> tks
[11:26] <ProN00b> comments ?
[11:26] <judah> jirc: rooting a box with a bootable cdrom is like.. SIMPLE.
[11:27] <harisund> Is there no wiki page on kernel recompilation? The wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild is one of the most unfriendly pages I have ever seen in the documentatoin and it anyway doesnt mention or give a hwot o for kernel recompilation :)
[11:27] <sharms> nick01: it sucks but will be fixed next release
[11:27] <breadmachine> La_PaRCa: ive actually installed this SAME exact version of ubuntu about 6 months ago and had no problems
[11:27] <nick01> sharms, when will the next iso be made ?
[11:27] <La_PaRCa> breadmachine, is it the same machine you are on right now?
[11:27] <breadmachine> La_PaRCa: yes, although im booted into XP at the moment
[11:27] <ProN00b> breadmachine, then it can only be the hardware, or a damaged install
[11:27] <ProN00b> obviously
[11:27] <jirc> yeh i know
[11:27] <dli> jesse_, one moment, let me find the howto
[11:27] <Jowi> ProN00b: those are not illegal where I live. :)
[11:27] <jirc> live  cd etc
[11:27] <La_PaRCa> breadmachine, can you go into xchat if you go to linux?
 look on the howto forums
[11:27] <judah> nick01: just install from the released isos.. and then upgrade when you're done.
[11:27] <sharms> nick01 - the next release is a few months off, but they might make an intrim release although I haven't seen any set plans
[11:27] <jirc> thanks anyway judah
[11:27] <Agrajag> what do you even need a bootable CD for, if it's using GRUB or LILO you just boot it to single mode
[11:27] <sharms> vegetable - what menu are you in now?
[11:27] <ProN00b> Jowi, well, and i don't care about it where i live
[11:27] <La_PaRCa> breadmachine, or any other internet-y programs?
[11:28] <harisund> nix4me h ah ok .. didn't think of that.. will get back .. thanks
[11:28] <nick01> :|
[11:28] <judah> Agrajag: YES!
[11:28] <breadmachine> La_PaRCa: nope, the connection times out, same as the net
[11:28] <Agrajag> If you have physical access to a machine, you don't need no stinkin' passwords.
[11:28] <jesse_> dli: nvm solved it
[11:28] <ProN00b> Agrajag, nowdays you sometimes do
[11:28] <dli> jesse_, okay, nautilus-open-terminal
[11:29] <rixxon> if you find this in auth.log, '(pam_unix) authentication failure;', this mean someone attempted physical login or could it be like, anything (i.e. ssh/whatever)?
[11:29] <jesse_> dli: yeah thats what i installed
[11:29] <rixxon> it is my understanding that pam could be anything
[11:29] <Agrajag> ProN00b: not in ubuntu, I think. Since there's no root password to ask for.
[11:29] <breadmachine> La_PaRCa: im truly stumped
[11:29] <Agrajag> I've never tried booting to single mode
[11:29] <webben> is easyubuntu any good? or will i end up wishing i'd installed Java development packages etc by hand?
[11:30] <dli> jesse_, hopefully, they will merge this into gconf
[11:30] <La_PaRCa> breadmachine, all I can think of is to check that you have no global proxy enabled for gnoe, and no proxys for any of the apps. Then recheck your network settings and make sure your internet interface is the one marked as default there. If that doesnt work, try creating a new user and logging in to that, see if that works.
[11:30] <breadmachine> La_PaRCa: i could try that.....
[11:30] <breadmachine> La_PaRCa: thanks
[11:30] <jesse_> dli: yeah its not that much of a problem since i found it after a quick google.. which i should have done before asking lol and im sure ive seen it this way on the 5.10 live cd
[11:31] <judah> jirc: the command is usually part of the log line.
[11:31] <danny> recently mailed to two maintainers of ubuntu packages (wine and libcss2)... didn't get any feedback. Is there any ubuntu irc channel where the maintainers are listening?
[11:31] <judah> sshd[3937] : Accepted publickey
[11:31] <dli> jesse_, I'm not on ubuntu, but it's the default here :)
[11:31] <sharms> nick01: just confirmed with devs, there will be no service release
[11:31] <judah> sudo: (pam_unix) authentication failure;
[11:31] <haTem> does anyone know how to get rhythmbox to play .mod/.xm/.it files? I read that gstreamer-plugins-bad 0.10.3 supports them (which I have installed), but they don't play in rhythmbox (nothing happens when I click play)
[11:31] <jesse_> also does anyone know a sollution to stop this whining sound i hear over the speakers it just doesnt go away
[11:31] <thiago> how can i change clock UTC to RTC?
[11:31] <jesse_> dli: well i just naturaly pressumed
[11:31] <judah> jesse_: ear plugs?
[11:32] <malin> how is it with sources.list? a packet will be installed from first source from the top of the list?
[11:32] <thiago> im using xubuntu
[11:32] <Petaris> Hello
[11:32] <jesse_> judah: yes headphones
[11:32] <malin> is there any order in downloading packages?
[11:32] <danny> shut down cd analog input and mice
[11:32] <Petaris> Does anyone know if a package exists for Bacula?
[11:32] <thenuke> jesse_: and you are sure that it is because of ubuntu or something?
[11:32] <Axel> Hallo guys!
[11:32] <bbrazil> malin: order deson't matter. apt-perferences does
[11:32] <avis> that is another thing i would like to know -- i dont know what city to select for CST GMT -6 also how do i change after a fresh install ?
[11:32] <thenuke> jesse_: that really sounds like problem with your electricity
[11:32] <judah> jesse_: actually i meant.. wear earphones.. i was being a jerk ;)
[11:32] <judah> earplugs!
[11:32] <judah> is what i meant.
[11:32] <judah> yeah.
[11:32] <judah> those.
[11:32] <nick01> sharms, then when will there be an alpha of the next version ?
[11:32] <dli> malin, there is, but not important if you have enough disk space
[11:32] <ompaul> !offtopic
[11:32] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:33] <ompaul> !enter
[11:33] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[11:33] <jesse_> it only happens with in ubuntu
[11:33] <ompaul> judah, please check what ubotu said thanks
[11:33] <judah> so noted.
[11:33] <malin> the thing is i have a local repository and i want it to be used first
[11:33] <ryanakca_> I'm having trouble running sudo aptitude update... the whole output from what I tried is here:   http://pastebin.ca/81794       as you may have noticed... at first I (wrongly) thought it was a proxy problem, so I tried restarting the network... no avail
[11:33] <spec> What program would I use to connect to a win2k3 SSL/VPN server?
[11:33] <jesse_> i noticed one way to stop it was to pause some music it seems to disapear.
[11:34] <malin> can i make apt-get use the local repository first?
[11:34] <judah> jesse_: try muting your mic
[11:34] <Spec> !vpn
[11:34] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[11:34] <jrib> malin: list it first, if everything else is equal order matters
[11:35] <dli> malin, I use apt-proxy, but not a really local repos
[11:35] <jesse_> judah: everything in capture is muted
[11:35] <malin> jrib: thanks
[11:35] <judah> jesse_: turn down the volum in the mixer and turn up the volume on your speaker?
[11:35] <dli> malin, I guess apt-proxy is what you want
[11:35] <NotWired> anyone know how well ubuntu 6.06 will run on a dell inspiron 9400? anything i should look out for?
[11:35] <judah> jesse_: make sure your power source is grounded well?
[11:36] <judah> jesse_: sorta sending out pot shots here... things i can think of.
[11:36] <dli> NotWired, dell is usually compatible with linux
[11:36] <Petaris> will debian packages "just work" with ubuntu?
[11:36] <jesse_> judah: there headphones not speakers my bad lol. I just noticed when i open up the sound control and minimize things it stop for a split second
[11:36] <Learning> how come i can't "dpkg -i libpcap0.8"; and i see it on the list~
[11:36] <dli> Petaris, mostly, but don't use debian .deb
[11:36] <Lobster> n8
[11:36] <zambaboo> hey guys what happen to raidtools? what am i supposed to use to initalize md?
[11:37] <dli> Learning, use: sudo apt-get install
[11:37] <NotWired> dli, any way to find out the max res i'll be able to get from the nvidia card and display?
[11:37] <Petaris> dli: Why not?
[11:38] <ryanakca_> Learning: dpkg -i packagename.deb = install... there is no list... if your looking for something... apt-cache search something              or       dpkg -l somethign
[11:38] <dli> NotWired, hard to know, I have an old nvidia card
[11:38] <NotWired> k thanks anyway dli
[11:38] <john> does anyone know how to modify your video ram
[11:38] <judah> Learning: dpkg -l | grep -is somethingtolookfor  is handy.
[11:38] <john> on bootup it says i only have 1mb of video ram
[11:38] <john> i really need more
[11:38] <dli> john, i855?
[11:38] <IRCMonkeyx> hi again, what is root? i am writing a command to terminal, it says you have no permission, trying to change something from lib/kernel/drivers it says u r not owner
[11:39] <jesse_> john, maybe thats all you have
[11:39] <thiago> how i can change my clock to RTC?
[11:39] <ryanakca_> john: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:39] <SonicChao> !root
[11:39] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:39] <john> i810
[11:39] <ryanakca_> it gives you the option
[11:39] <dli> john, any option in bios?
[11:39] <john> um, i dont think so,ill look
[11:40] <dli> john, set it up, and xorg should work out the rest
[11:40] <IRCMonkeyx> ubotu: trying to change something from lib/kernel/drivers by using file manager, it says u r not owner
[11:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about trying to change something from lib/kernel/drivers by using file manager, it says u r not owner
[11:40] <ryanakca> IRCMonkeyx: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2005/12/01/linux_root.html?page=1
[11:40] <gammal> hello everybody...where can I search for ubuntu packages that provide a certain file (i.e. something equivalent to packages.debian.org)?
[11:41] <sharms> !tell gammal about packages
[11:41] <SonicChao> IRCMonkeyx: Please, don't answer the bot...........:D
[11:41] <SonicChao> IRCMonkeyx: saying "!root" makes it say that
[11:41] <ryanakca> IRCMonkeyx: ubotu is a bot... no netspeak please.... run kdesu nautilus        or       kdesu konqueror
[11:42] <Learning> how come i can't "sudo dpkg -i libpcap0.8"; and i see it on the list~it says that "no such file in directory" but i saw it on the '-L' and even on '-s'?
[11:42] <IRCMonkeyx> sorry people, i didnt know it
[11:42] <judah> Learning: dpkg expects the entire file name.
[11:42] <dli> Learning, use: sudo apt-get install libpcap0.8
[11:42] <ryanakca> gammal:  apt-file search ... ex: apt-file search /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[11:42] <MrRio> I understand the firefox logo is not freely licensed, but why is it so-unfree as to be excluded from distribution with Ubuntu?
[11:43] <ryanakca> Learning: sudo apt-get install libcap0.8
[11:43] <gammal> thanks sharms & ryanakca
[11:43] <Learning> thanks.
[11:43] <nick01> sharms, do u know when the next alpha will be ?
[11:43] <IRCMonkeyx> is root equals admin??
[11:43] <sharms> IRCMonkeyx - yes
[11:43] <SonicChao> IRCMonkeyx: yes
[11:43] <IRCMonkeyx> i mean i have only one account in ubuntu, isnt it root?
[11:43] <shafaqat> hello
[11:44] <SonicChao> MrRio: are you wondering how to change the logo?
[11:44] <Shizboom> !pastebin
[11:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:44] <SonicChao> IRCMonkeyx: You should read what I told ubotu.
[11:44] <SonicChao> !root
[11:44] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:44] <ryanakca> IRCMonkeyx: yes... it can do anything... except jugle torches :P
[11:44] <SonicChao> IRCMonkeyx: Read it.
[11:44] <MrRio> SonicChao, I know how to change it in the menu, just wondering why it can't be distributed along with firefox
[11:44] <Wntermute> how do I disable the hiddenmenu option in grub's menu.lst?  I commented it out, but that change doesn't seem to have done anything.  I can tweek other things in the file (eg: change kopt and run update-grub) and they're taking effect...
[11:44] <IRCMonkeyx> ok thanx sonic
[11:44] <Kizzume> Hello.  This is the first time I've used ubuntu.  I can't find anything in the documentation that says what it automatically made my root password, and it didn't give me the option to set an admin password.  What would that be?
[11:44] <ryanakca> IRCMonkeyx: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2005/12/01/linux_root.html?page=1      explains what root is
[11:44] <SonicChao> MrRio: lol, than can you tell me?
[11:45] <judah> !tell Kizzume sudo
[11:45] <kitche> Kizzume root has no password
[11:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell Kizzume sudo
[11:45] <SonicChao> !sudo > Kizzume
[11:45] <sharms> !tell Kizzume about sudo
[11:45] <SonicChao> judah: proper ubotu markup
[11:45] <Kizzume> ?? Okay... I'll try that...
[11:45] <jpmemphis> server *irc.red-latina.org
[11:45] <Kizzume> thanks
[11:45] <judah> tnks.
[11:45] <sharms> :)
[11:45] <judah> !ubotu > judah
[11:45] <MrRio> SonicChao, lol, sure, right-click Applications, select Edit menu, then select firefox, right-click again, properties, then click the icon, you'll get a file chooser dialogue
[11:46] <ryanakca> Kizzume: I suggest you read  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:46] <ryanakca> Kizzume: it explains everything you need to know
[11:46] <Kizzume> "!tell: event not found"
[11:46] <SonicChao> MrRio: Thanks.
[11:46] <Kizzume> I'll check that
[11:46] <Pupeno> Hello.
[11:46] <SonicChao> MrRio: I've been wondering that since i got Ubuntu
[11:46] <SonicChao> XD
[11:47] <Pupeno> At least I've got sound... it was the modem, I *hidded* the built-in modem of the notebook and audio stopped working. In the process of finding a solution I destroyed my / particion, thankfully I had a separate /home and fater an hour I am back on-line... listening to music out of the box.
[11:47] <SimzI> Where can I configure my video output as I want to use an external montior with my laptop
[11:47] <SimzI> Can anybody help??
[11:47] <Wntermute> similarly grub seems like it's ignoring this global config options I've added: serial --unit=0 --speed=9600
[11:47] <Wntermute> terminal --timeout=10 serial console
[11:47] <dli> Pupeno, how did you manage to destroy the partition?
[11:48] <dli> SimzI, your laptop should have a switch key to do that
[11:48] <MrRio> SimzI: have you tried searching Google for you laptop model and "linux external monitor" or something? It 'just works' on my dell.
[11:48] <dli> SimzI, however, you may have to restart X to make it work
[11:49] <vigilante> !nvidia
[11:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:49] <vigilante> Is that the best way to install nvidia drivers, or is there an additional repository that has debs of the official nvidia drivers?
[11:49] <Pupeno> dli: I had volume at maximum, output and input. As soon as I started with the modem unhidden, it started to make a lowdy noise (like when you point a microphone to a speaker). In the rush to not get killed by neighborhoods (and wife) I turned it off... in a bad moment. and screwed it up. I am not sure if I did anything else wrong...
[11:49] <Pupeno> dli: it was so distrubing that I might have done something else without realising.
[11:49] <greenpete> Evening all!
[11:50] <dli> Pupeno, hehe, reiserfs?
[11:50] <SonicChao> greenpete: Hi......what is you're problem? (with ubuntu)
[11:50] <Flannel> vigilante: That page gives you instructions on installing form the repository
[11:50] <mikearthur> how can I install the ubuntu server edition?
[11:50] <greenpete> Can anyone help me with playing .mp3 files please?
[11:50] <Pupeno> dli: yes (please, don't start a flamewar).
[11:50] <SonicChao> !mp3 > greenpete
[11:50] <Pupeno> ubotu: tell greenpete about !mp3
[11:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about !mp3
[11:50] <greenpete> Yup!
[11:50] <Flannel> mikearthur: download the ISO
[11:50] <dli> Pupeno, you should unplug the speaker
[11:50] <Pupeno> dli: on-board speaker and microphone of the notebook.
[11:50] <SonicChao> greenpete: read ubotu's message
[11:50] <judah> !restrictedformats
[11:51] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:51] <greenpete> I have thousands of them and can't convert to .ogg!
[11:51] <mikearthur> Flannel: which one?
[11:51] <greenpete> ubotu thanks! I'll check that
[11:51] <Flannel> mikearthur: the server one
[11:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about thanks! I'll check that
[11:51] <SonicChao> !easyubuntu > greenpete
[11:51] <SonicChao> greenpete: that might also help
[11:51] <dli> Pupeno, still muting the speaker is faster
[11:51] <Pupeno> dli: I really tried everything, like sourounding the laptop with towells and hidding it in the bathroom.
[11:52] <ryanakca> I'm having trouble running sudo aptitude update... the whole output from what I tried is here:   http://pastebin.ca/81794       as you may have noticed... at first I (wrongly) thought it was a proxy problem, so I tried restarting the network... no avail
[11:52] <Petaris> Is there a repo for ports from debian?
[11:52] <dli> Pupeno, alsamixer?
[11:52] <meez> hey, i was told to go preferences -> mutliemedia system selector, but... it doesnt exist... i remember someone telling an equivilant but i forgot :(... any ideas?
[11:52] <crparr> Is there any form of a partner network for ubuntu / kubuntu in irc or any IM?
[11:52] <Jowi> greenpete: ubotu is a bot
[11:52] <greenpete> Thanks sonic
[11:52] <Flannel> crparr: what do you mean?
[11:52] <Pupeno> dli: I couldn't mute them while it was booting and it was taking forever (I don't know why, I have some IRQ problem that makes booting longer and I also think it was checking a partition).
[11:52] <Evil-Dude> crparr: You're on one right now if you mean by help/support
[11:52] <greenpete> Ha ha! Thanks!
[11:52] <dli> Pupeno, unstable kernel?
[11:52] <Pupeno> dli: I can't run alsamixer (or any program) untill I've got a log-in prompt and be able to log in.
[11:53] <greenpete> Oooh its too mad in here for me! THanks guys!
[11:53] <greenpete> Night
[11:53] <Pupeno> dli: no, a freaking new laptop with hardware that seems not so well supported yet (SATA HD for example).
[11:53] <crparr> I'm planning to become affiliate - a meeting point for ubuntu affiliates/partners would be nice. I'm just starting up a business in Vienna.
[11:53] <dli> Pupeno, sata is well supported now :)
[11:53] <SonicChao> Evil-Dude: hi ;)
[11:53] <Kizzume> allrighty--that makes sense now, however, this distribution doesn't seem to come with anything--where's the xserver?  I try apt-get install xfce, nope doesn't have it, apt-get install kde, nope doesn't have it, apt-get install xserver, nope, it's in a different package.  Someoene guided me to ubuntu because it was more for "beginners", and yet, I had better luck getting a debian install working (doing something useful)... am I missing som
[11:54] <Evil-Dude> Hey SonicChao :)
[11:54] <dli> crparr, you providing support or selling hardware?
[11:54] <Pupeno> dli: hold on a second.
[11:54] <ompaul> Kizzume, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and enjoy xfce
[11:54] <crparr> dli: Support and Installation on PCs
[11:54] <gnomefreak> Kizzume: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop
[11:54] <Flannel> Kizzume: apt-cache search, when you apt-get it wants a specific name.  You should search for that specific name with apt-cache search
[11:54] <gnomefreak> or ubuntu-desktop ;)
[11:54] <john> hey, what do i type in a termanel to see what mt depth is
[11:54] <john> like....16 bits
[11:54] <bbrazil> Kizzume: did you use the server cd or?
[11:54] <Kizzume> thanks
[11:54] <john> or 24 bits
[11:55] <john> i ask because openGL only works if it is set to 16 bits
[11:55] <Rifls> Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 156349 when i try to load the live cd
[11:55] <Rifls> any ideas?
[11:55] <bbrazil> Kizzume: also, xfce doesn't require an xserver, just the x client libs
[11:55] <Pupeno> dli: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2006-July/007120.html
[11:55] <dash`> eh, I wish I just know this stuff
[11:55] <dli> crparr, if you don't sell hardware, then, you will have to deal with unsupported hardware :(
[11:55] <Rifls> anyone?
[11:56] <Pupeno> Riffz2: a corrupt CD ?
[11:56] <Rifls> no
[11:56] <Pupeno> Riffz2: have you tried the built-in CD check ?
[11:56] <Rifls> the cd installs fine on my other pc
[11:56] <Rifls> i just used it 4 sec ago
[11:56] <Rifls> to install on my desktop
[11:56] <Pupeno> Riffz2: a corrupt cd drive then (it had happened to me).
[11:56] <vigilante> Flannel: thx, I just read a little further and saw that, the title :how to install binary drivers, threw me off
[11:56] <crparr> dli: which hardware is supported? where can I find a list? I might also sell pcs - who knows
[11:56] <ompaul> Riffz2,  bad CD player?
[11:56] <dash`> I am trying to install Tor, and possibly privoxy as well.  It tells me I need libevent, so I go to the given link, and there is a dozen odd choices, mostly in .tar.gz format, which atm means nothing to me
[11:56] <Jowi> john: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep DefaultDepth
[11:56] <Rifls> i dont think my cd drive is corrupt..
[11:56] <ompaul> Rifls, ,  bad CD player?
[11:56] <Pupeno> Rifls: a corrupt cd drive then (it had happened to me).
[11:56] <crparr> dli: I don't at the moment
[11:56] <Rifls> any other ideas?
[11:57] <Flannel> dash`: tor is in the repositories
[11:57] <dash`> what?
[11:57] <dash`> [smaller words]  :/
[11:57] <panda> hi! i've just installed the nvidia package and compiz. But ain't work is there any command i can use to verify if it is working OK?
[11:57] <Flannel> dash`: tor is in the repositories.  You can apt-get (or synaptic, etc) it.
[11:57] <Rifls> i guess it just wont work on my pc eh?
[11:57] <dash`> k
[11:57] <dash`> don't know synaptic yet
[11:58] <dash`> what do I do with it once I have "gotten" it?
[11:58] <dli> crparr, http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/ , this is not a complete list, and it's old
[11:58] <Rifls> its not my cd rom it installs and read discs fine i can burn discs fine
[11:58] <Rifls> so it has to be somethen diffrent
[11:58] <dli> Pupeno, the n00b way, I would try a newer kernel :)
[11:59] <crparr> dli: Thanks
[11:59] <Pupeno> dli: I had enough emotions for a week. I'll live waiting for a minute or so in boots.
[11:59] <ompaul> Rifls, have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions
[11:59] <SonicChao> dash`: It should appear in the apps menu
[11:59] <dli> Pupeno, or, some kernel options, like routeirq
[11:59] <john> I HAVE a stupid question...how many mega bits is 32000 kbs??
[11:59] <SonicChao> dash`: it depends on what you're getting
[11:59] <SonicChao> LOL!
[11:59] <Pupeno> Rifls: maybe the combination is the problem. For example, some particular cd drive with some particular cd-r brand or something like that.
[12:00] <SonicChao> john: lol, ahem, I think 320, or 32...dang, I dont even know...lol
[12:00] <Rifls> iv used these cd rs in this b4
[12:00] <Rifls> :d
[12:00] <gatekeeper> dash`: synaptic is a GUI package manager for install / uinstalling software
[12:00] <Pupeno> Rifls: I'd try changing one element of the combination from cd to hd passing thru cd drive and whatever and see if it works.
[12:00] <john> lol, i dont either
[12:00] <meez> hey, i have a problem
[12:00] <meez> i can only have sound in one program at a time
[12:00] <john> but thats how much i save my videoram
[12:00] <Rifls> could it be my laptop wont work with unbuntu
[12:00] <Rifls> ?
[12:00] <john> and i need to know how much that is
[12:00] <meez> which is kinda hard to use vent + games...
[12:00] <john> lol
[12:00] <Pupeno> dli: probably.
[12:00] <jirc> hello people yet again, all the trouble with securing a remote desktop over the net, could i simply connect to a realvnc windows machine using encryption then form that machine connect to the unix machine locally using the remote desktop features that comesd with ubuntu no encryption as then all the traffic as it passes over the net will be encrypted but on the local lan link from windows to unix box will not, but this will not matter as people will not
[12:00] <dli> Pupeno, http://www.thomasgersdorf.com/linux/index.php/Gentoo_Linux_on_IBM_ThinkPad_T60
[12:00] <john> incase its too low
[12:00] <jirc>  be able to see that traffic, is this a good idea?
[12:00] <meez> and its starting to irritate me, any ideas? :(