[12:00] <SonicChao> john: lol
[12:01] <dli> Pupeno, if you read a little bit more, it says, kernel >=2.6.16
[12:01] <dli> Pupeno, however, since 2.6.16 is a really bad release, you may want to go 2.6.17
[12:02] <CarlFK> how do I tell apt-get and synaptic to use a proxy?
[12:02] <Pupeno> dli: if someone wanted to run a custom kernel on Ubuntu, what is the best way ? grabbing the source packages from edgy and building packages ?
[12:02] <jirc> anyone?
[12:02] <dli> Pupeno, I suggest you to try vanilla
[12:03] <Pupeno> ahg... I don't want vanilla.
[12:03] <SonicChao> Pupeno: why?
[12:03] <jirc> hello people yet again, all the trouble with securing a remote desktop over the net, could i simply connect to a realvnc windows machine using encryption then form that machine connect to the unix machine locally using the remote desktop features that comesd with ubuntu no encryption as then all the traffic as it passes over the net will be encrypted but on the local lan link from windows to unix box will not, but this will not matter as people will not
[12:03] <jirc>  be able to see that traffic, is this a good idea?
[12:04] <SonicChao> jirc: I would say, no, but that's my opinion.........................................
[12:04] <jeremyb> I am having troubles upgrading to edgy--is this channel only for dapper issues?
[12:04] <Pupeno> SonicChao: because I don't want to go thru 1000 little options trying to guess the best ones to get this beast to work. I've chosen Ubuntu over Gentoo and that was one of the main reasons.
[12:04] <jirc> sonicchao can you explain why?
[12:04] <SonicChao> jeremyb: Edgy is testing.
[12:04] <Pupeno> SonicChao: also, I do trust that the good Ubuntu developers, aside of options, have chosen a nice set of patches for me.
[12:04] <SonicChao> jeremyb: why would you want to upgrade to it?
[12:05] <jeremyb> which channel do I use then?
[12:05] <CarlFK> Pupeno: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/forum/software/CustomKernel
[12:05] <Pupeno> CarlFK: thanks.
[12:05] <SonicChao> jeremyb: this channel, when Edgy comes out. ;)
[12:05] <Agrajag> jeremyb: #ubuntu+1 I think
[12:05] <jeremyb> thanks
[12:05] <CarlFK> Pupeno:  there are about 6 other pages like that that you should read but I can't find them
[12:05] <Pupeno> CarlFK: yeah :( I imagine.
[12:05] <jeremyb> oops
[12:06] <SonicChao> jeremyb: [Notice]  -ChanServ- [#ubuntu+1]  Edgy Eft is not yet usable. Please don't use it yet.
[12:06] <SonicChao> that says it all...........
[12:07] <jirc> sonicchao can you answer me why it is not doable? I mean is what i say true as in it will still be encrypted?
[12:08] <sherz> Hi I have a problem to write on an external HDD I tried mount /dev/sda1 /pladde/ -w and I can create folders but if copy files I get a error message permission denied ..
[12:08] <SonicChao> jirc: It's doable...not recommended by me tho.
[12:08] <SonicChao> sherz: are you logged in as sudo?
[12:08] <Eazy-> what does eft stand for in Edgy eft?
[12:08] <SonicChao> Eazy-: an eft is an animal
[12:08] <jirc> well not really the doable part, im asking is it secure whereby as as it traverses the internet is is encrypted and only once on the LAN is it not
[12:09] <Eazy-> ah
[12:09] <Agrajag> jirc: I'm confused here. What do you want to do exactly? Securely VNc to the Ubuntu desktop?
[12:09] <Eazy-> what kind? :)
[12:09] <jirc> yes
[12:09] <jirc> and everything i have tried has failed
[12:09] <Pupeno> brb
[12:09] <SonicChao> Eazy-: this is a support channel......I can talk to you in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:09] <jirc> freenx especially let me down
[12:09] <sherz> SonicChao Yes I tried sudo also
[12:09] <Agrajag> jirc: You should use SSHd then
[12:09] <jirc> agrajag, please explain furthermore
[12:10] <Agrajag> create an ssh tunnel for the VNc port and do all your VNCing over that tunnel
[12:10] <Eazy-> well it was a question :P
[12:10] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:10] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:10] <gatekeeper> !ssh
[12:10] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:10] <jirc> that shows how to make an SSH tunnel?
[12:10] <CrazyMonkey> !wpa
[12:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:10] <jirc> i have putty i have connected to the machine via CLI, but i want GUI agrajag
[12:10] <Agrajag> install openssh, and open up port 22. then from the client side, open up a tunnel to port 5900 on your desktop at home or whereever
[12:11] <Agrajag> ok.
[12:11] <SonicChao> Eazy-: 'tis a lizard I think
[12:11] <SonicChao> Eazy-: some kind of reptile
[12:11] <Eazy-> k, thanx
[12:11] <jirc> agrajag i have installed open ssh sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[12:11] <jirc> correct?
[12:11] <Agrajag> jirc: in putty, in the main connection window, go down all the way to the bottom on the left, to tunnels.
[12:11] <ompaul> it is a newt - SonicChao you are right about it being not a support question :-)
[12:11] <Jemt> f
[12:11] <Jemt> Ups, sorry
[12:12] <Agrajag> Add a tunnel, from port 5900, to localhost:5900
[12:12] <Sleeping_Sloth> anyone here folding on a multi processor box?
[12:12] <Agrajag> then log in, and in your VNC client, connect to localhost, and the connection will tunnel though SSH to the linux box.
[12:12] <Agrajag> everything will be encrypted.
[12:13] <Agrajag> you just have to leave the putty window open while you use VNC.
[12:13] <jirc> ok agrajag thanks, i am trying this now, i will get back to you on how it goes
[12:13] <jirc> :)
[12:14] <ryanakca> I'm having trouble running sudo aptitude update... the whole output from what I tried is here:   http://pastebin.ca/81794       as you may have noticed... at first I (wrongly) thought it was a proxy problem, so I tried restarting the network... no avail
[12:14] <Sleeping_Sloth> anyone here folding on a multi processor box?
[12:14] <Sleeping_Sloth> oops sorry
[12:15] <SonicChao> ompaul: thanks....lol
[12:15] <Sleeping_Sloth> is nobody in here folding?
[12:15] <SonicChao> ompaul: A newt????????? Lol!
[12:15] <lampshade> what's the difference between apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade?  The man tells me nothing
[12:15] <SonicChao> Bin-Laden: knock if off, stop changing your name
[12:16] <jirc> hang on agrajag, about the tunnel, all of the tunnel settings is made on the viewer? so say if the unix box ip is 69.232.3.23 , how will it be set? i miss understand about localhost, sorry :S
[12:16] <Bin-Laden> SonicChao: sorry
[12:16] <majd> !samba
[12:16] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:16] <majd> !mac
[12:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about mac
[12:16] <majd> !osx
[12:16] <Agrajag> You create the tunnel in putty.
[12:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about osx
[12:16] <SonicChao> !apple
[12:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about apple
[12:16] <Sleeping_Sloth> !maggotbox
[12:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about maggotbox
[12:16] <clem> is it possible to get X to run from a chrooted partition ?
[12:16] <SonicChao> majd: Knows nothing.........
[12:16] <Agrajag> The tunnel forwards all traffic incoming to localhost:5900 to your remote machine:5900
[12:17] <majd> i'm looking for a way to permanetly share a connection between my ubuntu and my mac
[12:17] <hyphenated> lampshade: dist-upgrade will remove packages if it needs to. the man page is a bit weak, it makes it sound magical ;-)
[12:17] <majd> i'm told i need to set samba up...
[12:17] <SonicChao> majd: Isn't samba for Windoze?
[12:17] <Agrajag> samba is for file-sharing, not sharing an internet connection
[12:18] <majd> Agrajag, i know....that's what i need
[12:18] <mic__> r irc.newnet.net
[12:18] <lampshade> hyphenated: isn't removing packages generally frowned on?  Does it only remove packages that are obsolete then?
[12:18] <nf4> any one use folding@home?
[12:18] <Sleeping_Sloth> lol nf4, I asked the same q a minute ago
[12:19] <eamo> Hi, where do I get libdvdcss to play dvd?
[12:19] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: what's *your* problem?
[12:19] <jirc> agrajag, in putty i click the two tick boxes yeah? and click remote and auto is ok for the settings?
[12:19] <ompaul> eamo, I will send you something now
[12:19] <nf4> are you useing it sleeping_Sloth?
[12:19] <jirc> source port 5900 and destination the remote address
[12:19] <eamo> ompaul: always there, thanks
[12:19] <ompaul> eamo, enjoy that
[12:19] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: yes, sort of - I have a problem with 2 cpus though
[12:19] <ompaul> eamo, :-)
[12:19] <Agrajag> no, leave the boxes unchecked
[12:19] <majd> is the guide to permanently mount windows the same as for mounting a mac computer?
[12:19] <Agrajag> local and auto on the radio buttons
[12:19] <nf4> did you use the ubuntu guides?
[12:20] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[12:20] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4 yes:
[12:20] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is an inaccurate and outdated resource. Please use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[12:20] <Agrajag> and the forwarded port, when added, should show up as "L5900   localhost:5900" in the little list
[12:20] <ompaul> Sleeping_Sloth, nf4 ^^^ read ubotu
[12:20] <nf4> i cant figure out why the guides are soo long and use a differant insall than the stanford guide
[12:20] <Sleeping_Sloth> I used a 5.10 forum guide
[12:20] <Seveas> !forget ubuntuguide
[12:20] <ubotu> I've forgotten it
[12:20] <hyphenated> lampshade: "if it needs to" :-)
[12:20] <ompaul> Seveas, ?
[12:20] <Seveas> ompaul, I've been told that ubuntuguide has changed owners and improved a lot
[12:20] <Sleeping_Sloth> ompaul: ...
[12:20] <ompaul> aaahhh
[12:21] <Seveas> wouldn't be fair to keep that factoid until that has at leest been looked at 
[12:21] <Agrajag> jirc: all you should have to do is put 5900 in the top text entry box and localhost:5900 in the bottom one
[12:21] <ompaul> Sleeping_Sloth, read what Seveas said
[12:21] <Agrajag> and click add
[12:21] <nf4> i just ran the exe and seem to be working properly
[12:21] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: i didnt use the "ubuntu guide", I found a guide on the forum. do you want the url?
[12:21] <jirc> ah i think i get it now, and vncviewer will be directed to putty? when i put the port
[12:21] <nf4>  thats what i ment
[12:22] <nf4> the guide made for ubuntu regardless of the name
[12:22] <nf4> i read both the wiki and the fourm guide
[12:22] <Agrajag> it will be directed through the SSH tunnel if you connect to localhost after logging in on putty.
[12:22] <clem> if I chroot I get the terminal to use another partition ad my root partition right ? How can I do the same graphically ? I mean how can I start X from there ?
[12:22] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: it was for 5.10 I think
[12:22] <Agrajag> you have to log in using putty first.
[12:22] <nf4> the exe runs  just fine though
[12:22] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: are you using multiple cpus?
[12:22] <nf4> my core is single just like me
[12:22] <Agrajag> clem: Why do you need to start X from a chroot?
[12:23] <Agrajag> You can run graphical programs from a chroot in your already-existing X server.
[12:23] <clem> Agrajag: I'd like to design a distribution from the existing Kubuntu live CD.
[12:23] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: well, I'd be fine if I had a single cpu - it works on one of them, but not both
[12:24] <nf4> do you have two cpu's or one cpu with two cores
[12:24] <clem> Agrajag: I can chroot into the distro-to-be but I'd like to get into it graphically to test it before making the iso.
[12:24] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: my machine is getting it on half the time, like me :p
[12:24] <jirc> so agrajag, sorry really embarassed now, I put localhost and 5900 in the session and in the tunnel option?
[12:24] <CarlFK> synaptic, Settings, Prefferences, Network - where does it store the proxy setting?  (I don't see it in /etc/apt/sources.list )
[12:24] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: 2 physical cpus - oppie 248's to be precise :)
[12:24] <Agrajag> no, just the tunnel.
[12:24] <reiki> getting ready to build new box. Will be reusing this hard drive. What (if anything) should I back up? Or should I just build clean from scratch? I'm really ok either way since my email is on an imap server
[12:24] <ddonky> is there a harware compatitbility list for Dapper?
[12:24] <Agrajag> In session you put your normal connection information, the address of the remote server you want to SSH to.
[12:24] <NemosNemos> Hi, why can't I find the files I download from Amule? I can't see any folder in home/user/Amule!
[12:25] <clem> NemosNemos : could be hidden, try ls -la
[12:25] <nf4> nice I almost built one of those but i built a dfi/opty 146(s939) system insted
[12:25] <Sleeping_Sloth> heh - I almost built one of them!
[12:26] <Flannel> ddonky: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:26] <Sleeping_Sloth> I'm on a k8we - bought it when it came out, cost me 400
[12:26] <Sleeping_Sloth> :/
[12:26] <nf4> i got a good deal on those Venus boards so i bought it to see if they were all they were cracked up to be
[12:26] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: and the outcome?
[12:27] <nf4> I like it its nice but not worth more than a regual expert board
[12:27] <mlehrer> anyone here familiar with the LTS version of forcedeth?
[12:27] <jirc> ok agrajag that is set, so in realvncviewer i put localhost 5900?
[12:27] <Agrajag> just localhost should work fine
[12:27] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: have you got nf4 drivers installed?
[12:27] <Agrajag> 5900 is the default port
[12:28] <Seveas> odd...
[12:28] <nf4> every 20minutes I get 1% complete on this folding set up seems about right
[12:28] <jirc> thanks, agrajag how can i prove the traffic is encrypted btw?
[12:29] <Agrajag> You need proof? You could use something like Ethereal to look at the traffic going through your NIC and see the difference between SSH traffic and a VNC session.
[12:30] <Agrajag> For example, all the traffic is now going to port 22, not the VNC port. Anything on that port is encrypted because the only thing using that port is SSH.
[12:30] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: it depends a lot on the job- but that sounds alright
[12:30] <Agrajag> And you can see for yourself the difference in the actual data going through
[12:31] <jirc> well im trying this now, so fingers crossed, thanks again bro alot
[12:31] <Agrajag> no problem
[12:31] <eternaljoy> how can I clean out Limewire history?
[12:32] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: since I can only run on one cpu at the moment, your performance and mine will be fairly similar i'd imagine
[12:32] <nf4> whats the clock speed of the 248?
[12:32] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: do you have nforce4 drivers installed?
[12:32] <eternaljoy> nf4: 248
[12:32] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: 2.2
[12:32] <nf4> no i dont think so
[12:32] <nf4> i forgot about that
[12:33] <ryanakca> I'm having trouble running sudo aptitude update... the whole output from what I tried is here:   http://pastebin.ca/81794       as you may have noticed... at first I (wrongly) thought it was a proxy problem, so I tried restarting the network... no avail
[12:33] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: me neither: ALSA for now....
[12:33] <MrRio> anyone come across a less than 5gb offline version of Wikipedia?
[12:33] <Sleeping_Sloth> eternaljoy: what do you mean?
[12:33] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: 146 runs @ 2.0 doesn't it?
[12:34] <nf4> yeah mine is 2.5 right now
[12:34] <nf4> useing stock volts
[12:34] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: wow - thats quite a jump
[12:34] <nf4> you can try the ipod wikipedia
[12:35] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4; what cooling have you got on it?
[12:35] <judah> ryanakca: it looks to me like your apt-proxy isn't running even though your networking is up..
[12:35] <h4v0k> can anyone help me get fonts to work
[12:35] <Shizboom> okay if i go to "Computer" there is a disk on there that says "56 gig Volume" it wont let me mount it. how do i get it mounted?
[12:35] <judah> ryanakca: all that could not connect to localhost mombojumbo.
[12:35] <wsjunior> how to show always show another mounted hd at desktop? do i have to add some special parameter to its fstab line?
[12:35] <eternaljoy> Sleeping_Sloth: how can I clean Limewire from showing what files I have searched for and downloaded?
[12:36] <nf4> artic cooling frezzer pro  64 idle temps 34c full load after 17hrs of prime is 42C
[12:36] <h4v0k> uninstall it :D
[12:36] <nf4> folding for 12hrs temp  is 38C
[12:36] <ryanakca> judah: I'm trying to figure out where it got that "localhost mombojumbo".... It was working fine till a couple of days ago... I having trouble getting other programs to connect...
[12:36] <corvette> hello, can you tell me how to associate Firefox with IRC protocol?
[12:36] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: have you got a temp monitor working on ubuntu?
[12:36] <nf4> to who ever wanted the offline wikipeida you might want this one http://encyclopodia.sourceforge.net/en/
[12:37] <nf4> yes
[12:37] <judah> ryanakca: can you pastebin your sources.list and your /etc/hosts file?
[12:37] <wsjunior> how to show mounted devices at the desktop? it used to work here but now i cant see my other partitions at the desktop anymore..
[12:37] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: sadly I don't - my box is cool and quiet, but I dont really want to overclock
[12:37] <eternaljoy> Sleeping_Sloth: well?
[12:37] <Sleeping_Sloth> eternaljoy - whay are you asking me?
[12:37] <stefg> corvette: either install chatzilla, or think the other way... how to integrate your browser with you IRC client
[12:37] <Sleeping_Sloth> eternaljoy - I dont use limewire
[12:37] <nf4> no need to if you have 4ghz
[12:37] <eternaljoy> is there a ubuntu program that fully cleans all internet activities, eg, cleans recent documents, websites, etc etc?
[12:38] <eternaljoy> Sleeping_Sloth: you are hopeless and trolling
[12:38] <nf4> firefox can do that
[12:38] <corvette> cool thanks stefg
[12:38] <Sleeping_Sloth> eternaljoy: I am neither, thanks
[12:38] <eternaljoy> nf4: firefox doesnt clean recent documents
[12:38] <h4v0k> after i use wget where is the file stored
[12:38] <soccio> Hi
[12:39] <jirc> ok agrajag when i click open with putty the window stays blank, done what u said, installed open ssh on nix box, session is the remote ip port 5900, tunnel says 5900 localhost, and vnc says localhost
[12:39] <judah> ryanakca: also the output from ping security.ubuntu.com
[12:39] <nf4> under places if you go there you can clear resent doctuments if you hit the clear resent documents button
[12:39] <soccio> Does exists an applet for gnome working like Klipper?
[12:39] <h4v0k> whereis wget
[12:39] <Sleeping_Sloth> eternaljoy: I was having a discusion with nf4- I've been legitimately looking for help with a folding@home problem. Am I not allowed to have a friendly discussion in the meantime, or is that trolling? And just because I'm unable to answer *your* question, am I hopeless....?
[12:40] <ryanakca> judah: http://pastebin.ca/81837
[12:40] <Sleeping_Sloth> eternaljoy: I've answered my fair share of peoples questions on here before - if I can help, I will - but dont just target me because I'm having a talk with someone else
[12:41] <juztin> how do i disable some of my ttys?
[12:41] <ryanakca> judah: http://pastebin.ca/81839
[12:41] <err0rr> juztin: in /etc/inittab delete some of the lines like 6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6
[12:41] <judah> ryanakca: why do you have this line? 127.0.1.1 ubuntu
[12:42] <juztin> err0rr, thanks :)
[12:42] <gnomefreak> Sleeping_Sloth: as long as its ontopic and follows all code of conduct and irc guidelines its fine
[12:42] <ryanakca> judah: dunno
[12:42] <ryanakca> judah: delete it?
[12:42] <judah> ryanakca: i'd remove it.
[12:42] <jumbers> ubuntu ftw
[12:43] <Sleeping_Sloth> gnomefreak: it was sort of a rhetorical question - it started out as a support request, turned into a genearl discussion - I very much doubt I've broken the guidelines
[12:43] <gnomefreak> Sleeping_Sloth: not that i have seen just informing you
[12:43] <mad_slackie> night all! :)
[12:43] <Sleeping_Sloth> gnomefreak: and I would consider trolling a pretty harsh description of what I've been doing.
[12:44] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[12:44] <Sleeping_Sloth> gnomefreak - no, I wasn't complaining
[12:44] <judah> ryanakca: are you actually running an proxyies?
[12:44] <Sleeping_Sloth> gnomefreak: I think he just got upset because I couldn't help him clear all the porn off mommys computer
[12:45] <ryanakca> judah: ps aux | grep proxy    output nothing...
[12:45] <vigilante> is there a make live cd script in ubuntu to generate a new live cd based off you hardrive install, similar to what Mandriva one and PCLinuxOS has?
[12:45] <Seveas> vigilante, no.
[12:45] <judah> ryanakca: well try sudo apt-get update
[12:45] <nf4> glade candles smell good and offer relaxing aroma therpy
[12:45] <eternaljoy> Sleeping_Sloth: stop trolling
[12:45] <judah> ryanakca: after you remove that one line from /etc/hosts
[12:45] <ProN00b> theres 4.1 gb space on a dvd, right ?
[12:46] <dli> ProN00b, 4.7
[12:46] <Sleeping_Sloth> eternaljoy:if I were trolling, I'd be kicked, I imagine. swipe that chip off your shoulder
[12:46] <h4v0k> how do i stop gok
[12:46] <ryanakca> nope :)
[12:46] <eternaljoy> Sleeping_Sloth: you get very defensive and you feel you need to explain yourself. thats a sign of guilt
[12:46] <Sleeping_Sloth> eternaljoy: nah - not a sign of guilt, a sign of being right and knowing it
[12:46] <ProN00b> dli, how many MB is that ?
[12:46] <nalioth> Sleeping_Sloth: please don't feed the trolls    :)
[12:46] <Flannel> ProN00b: 4.7x1024
[12:46] <vigilante> Seveas: that would be a nice future feature... is it difficult to remake the cd manually?
[12:47] <nf4> Sleeping_Sloth dont worrie i think he was booted
[12:47] <Seveas> Sleeping_Sloth, offtopic (non-support) talk is better off in #ubuntu-offtopic 
[12:47] <ProN00b> Flannel, no, not really
[12:47] <brainsik> ProN00b: 4489.25    MB
[12:47] <Afief> I am unable to install libgnomeui-dev, some of it's dependencies are broken it seems
[12:47] <Sleeping_Sloth> does anyone in here run folding on a multi processor machine?
[12:47] <Seveas> vigilante, it involves some trickery
[12:47] <brainsik> ProN00b: 4597       MiB
[12:47] <La_PaRCa> I am getting a "no screens found" error when trying to start xgl. Any ideas as to why?
[12:47] <Flannel> La_PaRCa: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL support
[12:47] <Sleeping_Sloth> Seveas: I'm sorry - as I tried to explain - we were talking on-topic to start with....
[12:48] <Sleeping_Sloth> Seveas: and I'm still looking for help.
[12:48] <ProN00b> brainsik, how did you get that number ?
[12:48] <ubuntu01> op
[12:48] <fabio> Hi
[12:48] <Afief> Can someone tell me how to install libgnomeui-dev?
[12:48] <brainsik> i calculated them a while ago.. i have bytes, sectors, kilobytes, etc.. sitting in a text file.
[12:48] <Sleeping_Sloth> If you ask your question too frequently, it's flooding :p
[12:48] <Seveas> Afief, sudo apt-get install libgnomeui-dev
[12:48] <ubuntu01> brazuca na area
[12:48] <Seveas> !find libgnomeui
[12:48] <nf4> Sleeping_Sloth I think I figured out your problem
[12:48] <ubotu> Found: libgnomeui-0, libgnomeui-0-dbg, libgnomeui-common, libgnomeui-dev, libgnomeui-doc (and 3 others)
[12:48] <Seveas> !br
[12:48] <ubuntu01> opa
[12:48] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[12:48] <^james_> hi
[12:48] <PapaPitufo> messi
[12:49] <hcjc92> whats the apache php5 module?
[12:49] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: oh yeah? what do you reckon?
[12:49] <Seveas> hcjc92, libapache2-mod-php5
[12:49] <fabio> Hi james this my firts time in xchat
[12:49] <hcjc92> thanks
[12:49] <^james_> is Limewire a type of peer-to-peer?
[12:49] <brainsik> ProN00b: i can message you the full list of them
[12:49] <zenwhen> hey
[12:49] <judah> ryanakca: any luck?
[12:49] <err0rr> limewire is gnutella
[12:49] <err0rr> afaik
[12:49] <h4v0k> how do i stop gok
[12:49] <PapaPitufo> james, yes
[12:50] <Sanne> hcjc92, you can search for package names with 'apt-cache search <name>' or on packages.ubuntu.com
[12:50] <Drappa> I need some help with my installation.
[12:50] <ubuntu01> this my firts time in xchat too
[12:50] <^james_> err0rr: what does gnutella mean exactly?
[12:50] <ProN00b> nah, thanks brainsik, the mib/mb is enough
[12:50] <PapaPitufo> ^james_: yes, limewire is p2p
[12:50] <fabio> hi ubuntu01
[12:50] <^james_> PapaPitufo: what is p2p exactly?
[12:50] <ubuntu01> hi fabio
[12:50] <PapaPitufo> ubuntu01: have a pleasant experience
[12:50] <err0rr> ^james_: http://rfc-gnutella.sourceforge.net/
[12:50] <PapaPitufo> ^james_: p2p=peer to peer
[12:50] <xaviusshadow> When I'm trying to install it keeps giving me and I/O error saying it can't find a sector on hdc, what's that mean?
[12:50] <^james_> PapaPitufo: if a person uses p2p, does the files transfter through the persons ISP?
[12:51] <hareem> is there any way that i can interconnect some ubuntu pc's toghether
[12:51] <fabio> Did you ever use gaim?
[12:51] <nf4> Have you trying running a second  terminal window and loading /home/ejwalt/Desktop/FAH504-Linux.exe -config and changeing the machine ID from 1 to 2
[12:51] <Jemt> hareem: LAN ?
[12:51] <PapaPitufo> ^james_: yes
[12:51] <hareem> yes
[12:51] <brainsik> ryanakca: what does: `host -av archive.ubuntu.com` say?
[12:51] <^james_> PapaPitufo: so its not a direct link between users?
[12:51] <h4v0k> hareem, ethernet network them
[12:51] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4, gnomefreak: what do you think about this pm from eternaljoy "ill be back for you, havent finished yet with you"
[12:51] <hareem> like you know like windows xp has. that workgroup type setup
[12:51] <ompaul> xaviusshadow, what is hdc? is it a hard drive or a cd?
[12:51] <Flannel> ^james_: well, it has to go through routers to get to the other computer
[12:51] <Sleeping_Sloth> someone's got a *very* short fuse!!
[12:51] <^james_> PapaPitufo: so the ISP gets the exact same file stored on their hard drive that I download using p2p?
[12:51] <vigilante> btw, kudos to whoever developed the X gui config for monitor and video card in 6.06 :)  , we're getting close to having something like Yast or Harddrake
[12:51] <gnomefreak> Sleeping_Sloth: ignore it
[12:52] <err0rr> ^james_: yes, limewire allows information to travel between you and your friends computer without leaving through your ethernet card even
[12:52] <^james_> Sleeping_Sloth: dont falsely accuse eternaljoy
[12:52] <PapaPitufo> ^james_: yes it is a direct link between both of you. Any direct link on the internet always goes out through your ISP
[12:52] <hareem> see im trying to this ubuntu up at my cafe. But i did the lockdown of them. But i wanted to remotely logoff the users.
[12:52] <Sleeping_Sloth> ^james: I'm not
[12:52] <nf4> yeah lam3rs are getting lamer  these days
[12:52] <xaviusshadow> ompaul: I'm trying to install from cd Here's the message "Buffer I/O error on device hdc"
[12:52] <^james_> PapaPitufo: so the ISP gets the exact same file stored on their hard drive that I download using p2p?  So they can view the file?
[12:52] <nalioth> Sleeping_Sloth: please keep the offtopic stuff in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:52] <hareem> you can do this in windows xp by remote connection desktop or something
[12:52] <PapaPitufo> ^james_: the only way to avoid your ISP is by actually using a cable of your own between your computers
[12:52] <Afief> this is my error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17455
[12:52] <bbrazil> ^james_: only if they're monitoring you. usually they pass the traffic through
[12:52] <fabio> Are you still on line ubuntu 01
[12:52] <nalioth> ^james_: your ISP "MAY" monitor everything you do online
[12:53] <nf4> Have you trying running a second  terminal window and loading  FAH504-Linux.exe -config and changeing the machine ID from 1 to 2
[12:53] <err0rr> ^james_: just use strong encryption
[12:53] <dli> xaviusshadow, sounds like a hardware problem :(
[12:53] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: what do you suggest I try?
[12:53] <err0rr> on your file
[12:53] <nf4> read three lines up
[12:53] <^james_> Sleeping_Sloth: eternaljoy is a regular here and a helpful and good person!  we dont appecriate you backstabbing him when he is not here to defend your false accusations
[12:53] <xaviusshadow> dli: With the cdrom?
[12:53] <^james_> nalioth: ok
[12:53] <PapaPitufo> ^james_: no, the ISP does not store it. It just acts as a "gateway", they're the highway in p2p
[12:53] <xaviusshadow> dli: Or the HD?
[12:53] <bbrazil> ^james_: you have to realise there's a lot of traffic going through every day, storing it all isn't a good idea
[12:53] <nalioth> ^james_: can you and Sleeping_Sloth take your thread to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:53] <^james_> PapaPitufo: ok
[12:53] <err0rr> PapaPitufo: they *could* store it
[12:53] <^james_> nalioth: ok
[12:53] <Kizzume> I have a delta 66 sound card, and the only drivers I can find is OSS, which I can't seem to get working--does anyone know about OSS?
[12:53] <dli> xaviusshadow, I saw this on both, with cd-rom, you can ignore it, as far as it works
[12:53] <ompaul> xaviusshadow, I asked a question you did not answer, what are the drives on your machine, ide0 = hda and so on
[12:54] <Sleeping_Sloth> ^james: do you want me to post a screenshot? I am here to get help, not get abused by your friend
[12:54] <vigilante> !realcodecs
[12:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about realcodecs
[12:54] <Afief> seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17455
[12:54] <Seveas> (that was eternaljoy)
[12:54] <xaviusshadow> ompaul: 0 is hd, 3 is CDrom I think.
[12:54] <vigilante> hmm, is it possible to install realcodecs, without realplayer?
[12:54] <Kizzume> Delta 66 is an M-Audio card...
[12:54] <nalioth> !restricted > vigilante
[12:54] <PapaPitufo> err0rr: as I said, the "safest" way for peer2peer would be a direct cable between the two computers :)
[12:55] <ompaul> xaviusshadow, okay how many hard drives / cdroms have you got in that box
[12:55] <xaviusshadow> ompaul: I have 1 hda and 1 cdrom
[12:55] <Seveas> Afief, are you on edgy?
[12:55] <PapaPitufo> ^james_: you should not need to worry, unless if you are one of those been investigated by FBI
[12:55] <judah>  /dev/hda primary master /dev/hdb primary slave /dev/hdc secondary master /dev/hdd secondary slave
[12:55] <Afief> Seveas: nope, Dapper
[12:55] <judah> ompaul: --^
[12:55] <PapaPitufo> ^james_: FBI just caught some of those from a chatroom, you know
[12:55] <jackrazz> is this the best instructions to use for installing xgl with nvidia card?
[12:55] <vigilante> nalioth: so from that link, it looks like realplayer is the only option
[12:55] <jackrazz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[12:55] <bbrazil> PapaPitufo: he's gone
[12:55] <Bass> its there a better way to open a 4mb text file and search it, gedit crashes even on my pc
[12:56] <Seveas> !info libgnome2-dev
[12:56] <ubotu> libgnome2-dev: The GNOME 2 library - development files. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.14.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 104 kB, installed size 304 kB
[12:56] <bbrazil> Bass: less
[12:56] <bbrazil> Bass: or grep/fgrep for just searching
[12:56] <PapaPitufo> bbrazil: thanks
[12:56] <ompaul> xaviusshadow, it means that something is not being read on the CD rom - if it works then work away if not then burn it slower
[12:56] <Bass> bbrazil: thanks
[12:56] <bbrazil> nalioth: +d ?
[12:56] <Seveas> Afief, then fix your sources.list and don't mess around with non-ubuntu sources.
[12:56] <ompaul> bbrazil, realname
[12:56] <xaviusshadow> ompaul: I burned the cd as slow as I could at 8x
[12:56] <nalioth> bbrazil: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[12:56] <Kizzume> Thanks everyone for the gui tips.  It got my system working great as far as that goes..
[12:56] <hareem> hey can some one tell me how can i share folders between two ubuntu machnes
[12:57] <Sanne> Bass, you can search in less with /searchterm
[12:57] <clem> I found my answer I think.. I don't really need to chroot at all. The CD uses squashfs, I might be able to squash my own installation into it.
[12:57] <ompaul> !nfs > hareem
[12:57] <dli> hareem, install openssh-server
[12:57] <Seveas> hareem, system  administration  shared folders
[12:57] <bbrazil> nalioth: ah, per-channel dline
[12:57] <Afief> saveas: i only have one extra repository for XGL and one for Wine, both of which i have been advised to add here
[12:57] <PapaPitufo> oh dear
[12:57] <hareem> ok thanks for the help
[12:58] <Afief> saveas: both for ubuntu
[12:58] <Seveas> Afief, then disable those.
[12:58] <sobersabre> Bass vim also can handle it.
[12:58] <sobersabre> Bass but the correct way to search files is sed
[12:58] <bbrazil> sobersabre: vim of large files is dodgy in my experiance - but I'm talking >50MB
[12:59] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4:  I can't seem to do that
[12:59] <sobersabre> bbrazil he's talking 4 MB
[12:59] <Afief> saveas: disabled, reloaded, but it still doesn't help
[12:59] <dli> bbrazil, there should be a large file mode for vim
[12:59] <nf4> what run the config or change to machine id 2
[12:59] <bbrazil> dli: there probably is, but I don't know of it :)
[12:59] <PapaPitufo> QUESTION: Does Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper) LiveCD include XGL, and if so, is it activated by default? (answer not found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions)
[01:00] <Seveas> PapaPitufo, twice no
[01:00] <sobersabre> dli is it compile time option ?
[01:00] <Afief> PapaPitufo: nope
[01:00] <Seveas> xgl is far too unstable to be supported
[01:00] <judah> Seveas: is that a double negative then?
[01:00] <Seveas> judah, smartass :
[01:00] <dli> sobersabre, I don't really know :(
[01:00] <nf4> you have to manuly install xgl/compiz
[01:00] <PapaPitufo> Seveas: SuSE DEL includes it...
[01:00] <bbrazil> dli, sobersabre: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1506
[01:00] <Seveas> PapaPitufo, good for them.
[01:00] <gnomefreak> PapaPitufo: this isnt suse ;)
[01:01] <phire> Hey, I'm installing Dapper via debootstrap, and I've done most the things base-config used to do. But How do I setup the sudoers file?
[01:01] <nf4> Thats becouse novell made suse and made xgl
[01:01] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: hold on - I may have sorted it
[01:01] <nalioth> phire: "man visudo"
[01:01] <dli> bbrazil, good, but probably I don't need it, if the file is huge, I would use other tools
[01:01] <Sub> phire, with visudo
[01:01] <knight__> #destar
[01:01] <Guyver`> Hello
[01:01] <Seveas> phire, install the sudo pacakge and add this line to /etc/sudoers: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[01:01] <PapaPitufo> well, I assumed that since it is being distributed on an Enterprise level distribution, XGL must already be stable enough.
[01:01] <bbrazil> dli: depends on the type of editing required. I needed to play with a mysql dump once
[01:01] <PapaPitufo> Then again, Novell invented XGL
[01:01] <phire> thanks
[01:01] <Sub> phire, jus add a the group "admin" to sudoers, and then make sure all admin users are in admin
[01:02] <sobersabre> bbrazil http://www.vim.org/tips/tip.php?tip_id=343
[01:02] <sobersabre> :)
[01:02] <nalioth> phire: but man visudo first
[01:02] <Sub> PapaPitufo, XGL is far from stable
[01:02] <dli> bbrazil, then, I would try perl
[01:02] <nf4> XGL is as stable as my bank account
[01:02] <zenwhen> true, XGL is pretty buggy.
[01:02] <ompaul> !xgl
[01:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:02] <Afief> saveas: disabled them, reloaded the info, but it still won't install
[01:03] <PapaPitufo> Sub: I guess that SuSE LED must have a newer version of XGL then
[01:03] <Kizzume> Anyone know about M-Audio cards?
[01:03] <sobersabre> Sub is there a timeline, or schedule as for when xgl is going to be stable ?
[01:03] <bbrazil> dli: I'd try sed or awk first :)
[01:03] <monomaniacpat> I assume every configure file is unique? It's just that I have a makfile without any visible means of configuring the damn thing :/
[01:03] <nf4> or suse LED isnt stable
[01:03] <PapaPitufo> ok bye
[01:03] <judah> people sure like their drop shadows and wobboly windows..
[01:03] <PapaPitufo> thank you
[01:03] <sobersabre> Kizzume what about them, they're quite great audio interfaces...
[01:03] <Seveas> nf4, filed for bankrupcy yet?
[01:03] <PapaPitufo> judah: yup
[01:03] <bbrazil> monomaniacpat: some programs only have makefiles - check the INSTALL and README files
[01:03] <err0rr> PapaPitufo: you might want to look at WASTE
[01:03] <Kizzume> Sobersabre:  Do you know how to get them working in ubuntu linux?
[01:03] <nf4> not yet i still have 75 cents usd
[01:03] <sobersabre> Kizzume yes.
[01:03] <Seveas> Afief, then you did really weird things to your system....
[01:04] <PapaPitufo> judah: actually, the neat thing is sharks swimming between windows
[01:04] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: the second process ran while it was in terminal, but I cant start or stop it with etc/init.d/foldingathome
[01:04] <Sub> sobersabre, PapaPitufo suse use the same version of xgl as we do - there constantly improving it, but i would never use it on a production/workstation
[01:04] <PapaPitufo> err0rr: Waste?
[01:04] <sobersabre> doesn't it work out of the box ?!
[01:04] <err0rr> PapaPitufo: http://waste.sourceforge.net/
[01:04] <judah> PapaPitufo: and true transparancy.
[01:04] <Lukian> How do I unmark something using apt / aptitude for upgrade/installation ?
[01:04] <Sub> java is terrible with it, and it;s still very sketchy with accelerated 3D
[01:04] <Afief> Seveas: weird, i'm not aware of doing anything like that
[01:04] <sobersabre> Kizzume which interface do you own ? audiophile ?
[01:04] <Kizzume> sobersabre:  I have a delta 66 card, and they didn't have drivers on their site, they said to use OSS, but I can't get that working....
[01:04] <bbrazil> Lukian: aptitude install packagename
[01:04] <PapaPitufo> err0rr: thanks!
[01:04] <Lukian> bbrazil: unmark
[01:04] <Afief> Seveas: is there a way to fix it?
[01:04] <sobersabre> Kizzume don't use OSS :)
[01:04] <Seveas> Lukian, updates are there for a reason...
[01:04] <sobersabre> it sux, especially the free one
[01:04] <bbrazil> Lukian: remove, _
[01:04] <Kizzume> sobersabre:  What should I use?
[01:05] <nf4> Yeah i dont know anything about that i just run the exe in termial and call it good sorry i cant help further
[01:05] <Lukian> Seveas: It wants to install lilo instead of grub on a clean dapper install..
[01:05] <sobersabre> Kizzume: Deltas are great :)
[01:05] <vigilante> PapaPitufo: suse is just including xgl in sled only, to try to out eyecandy vista and osX, its just a rushed gimick, doesn't improve usability of desktop
[01:05] <monomaniacpat> bbrazil: it doesn't have an install file and the only readme says it comes preconfigured :\
[01:06] <bbrazil> monomaniacpat: then type 'make'
[01:06] <Kizzume> sobersabre:  Yes, I know they're great, they work great in Windows and the Mac, but I can't find drivers for them for linux..
[01:06] <bbrazil> monomaniacpat: you might want to look a the makefile
[01:06] <Seveas> Lukian, then you better solve that instead of trying to work around it...
[01:06] <PapaPitufo> nf4: Sub: Seveas: err0rr: thanks for the quick reply! Better than Yahoo Answers :P
[01:06] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: have you tried starting/stopping with init.d?
[01:06] <Afief> vigilante: actually sorting all the windows with one key + thumbail switcher(alt+tab) is quite useful
[01:06] <sobersabre> Kizzume, just for the feeling: modprobe -l | grep ice
[01:06] <Sub> PapaPitufo, anytime :)
[01:06] <Lukian> Saveas: that was my question..
[01:06] <vigilante> Afief: kompose does that already, w/o xgl
[01:06] <nf4> I dont know what init.d is
[01:06] <sobersabre> Kizzume, just for the feeling: modprobe -l | grep ice | grep snd
[01:07] <maddash> I've got a problem with the package "locales" after I tried to install the libc6-2.3.6 package from debian.org "Locales" is marked as broken. When I check on it in Synaptic, I see that "Locales" needs libc6-2.3.5. So what do I do?
[01:07] <Sleeping_Sloth> try running this: sudo /etc/init.d/foldinathome restart
[01:07] <Sub> vigilante, xgl does havea  few features which are actually productive - but yes alot is eyecandy
[01:07] <Afief> vigilante: let's say, it adds that to metacy too
[01:07] <nf4> when i stop it i just close the terminal window that is running in
[01:07] <Stormx2> hey folks
[01:07] <nf4> and restart it it saves to where it stoped at
[01:07] <monomaniacpat> bbrazil: make: *** No targets.  Stop. - the makefile doesn't say much
[01:07] <Kizzume> sobersabre: let me try that... brb
[01:07] <sobersabre> Kizzume this doesn't turn'on the sound
[01:07] <sobersabre> this only lists drivers
[01:08] <Stormx2> monomaniacpat: what are you compiling?
[01:08] <sobersabre> Kizzume listen...
[01:08] <bbrazil> monomaniacpat: what package is it?
[01:08] <sobersabre> are u there... ?
[01:08] <monomaniacpat> bbrazil: an xpad driver
[01:08] <maddash> anyone?
[01:09] <Afief> Seveas: is there a way to fix my system enough to get it working??
[01:09] <maddash> dammit, I'm on the verge of a nervous breakdown
[01:09] <Seveas> Afief, possibly - but you need to ask someone else, I'm going to bed in < 5 minutes
[01:09] <Macskeeball> I'm going to be using Ubuntu 6.06 to run a server, and I need to use DHCP with a manual address so that the Port Forwarding settings on my router will always work. How do I set Ubuntu to use DHCP with a manual address?
[01:09] <monomaniacpat> bbrazil: here's the makefile (it is simply called "makefile") http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17456
[01:09] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: ahah - solved it
[01:10] <Kizzume> sobersabre: it says that -1 is a not a valid option
[01:10] <Blissex> Macskeeball: you create a DHCP config file with a static entry.
[01:10] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: I just ran the .exe config twice, and it sorted it
[01:10] <jarrett> Can anyone tell me what the best way to install Steam would be? I've tried multiple things (Wine, Cedega (from pvp), cvscdega) i can get all of them to install Steam, but once steam goes to update, thats when all my problems start. Can anyone help me please?
[01:10] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: once for each cpu - I had assumed the first thread was running on cpu1, but it must have been on cpu2
[01:10] <Macskeeball> Blissex: Thank you, now that you've said that I know where to llok.
[01:11] <Macskeeball> s/llok/look
[01:11] <Sanne> maddash, you should better not install from debian.org. ubuntu and Debian are not meant to be binary compatible.
[01:11] <monomaniacpat> jarrett: you need to install the font tahoma.ttf and a dll file
[01:11] <bbrazil> monomaniacpat: hmm, there must be another file to run or something
[01:11] <Blissex> Macskeeball: 'man dhcpd.conf' usually
[01:11] <sobersabre> Kizzume I am trying to speak privately
[01:11] <Afief> I am unable to install  libgnomeui-dev, because some of it's dependencies won't install. can someone help me?
[01:11] <Blissex> Macskeeball: 'man dhcpd.conf' usually, a 'host' entry with a fixed MAC and IP address.
[01:11] <bbrazil> monomaniacpat: can you pastebin me 'find -ls' ?
[01:11] <sobersabre> do you see my messages ?
[01:11] <Macskeeball> Blissex: Will do. Thanks again.
[01:11] <jarrett> monomaniacpat: where do i get these, and how do i install them please?
[01:12] <monomaniacpat> jarrett: google steam 26%
[01:12] <monomaniacpat> jarrett: Ill talk in a minute
[01:12] <monomaniacpat> bbrazil: hang on
[01:12] <nf4> thats great
[01:12] <phire> Question, I'm setting up a firewall, using debconfig. should I use linux-image-server or linux-image-686?
[01:12] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: thanks for the help
[01:12] <jarrett> monomaniacpat: thanks
[01:12] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: now.... can you do me a favour and check if you have a foldingathome in your /etc/init.d/ folder?
[01:12] <nf4> I know this program is kind similar to mprime
[01:12] <phire> sorry, useing debootstrap
[01:13] <SonicChao>  I updated Ubuntu, and it said I was going to download "deskbar-applet" which is "A deskbar similar to Google Desktop"...I ran "deskbar-applet" in Terminal, and nothing happened. How do I run deskbar-applet?
[01:13] <SonicChao> Can someone help?
[01:13] <bbrazil> phire: probably go for server, I doubt it'll matter too much
[01:13] <phire> thanks
[01:13] <dli> phire, I suppose -server , but you can switch later after
[01:13] <monomaniacpat> bbrazil: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17457
[01:13] <gnomefreak> SonicChao: you add it to the panel
[01:14] <nf4> no i dont
[01:14] <SonicChao> gnomefreak: ...how?
[01:14] <nf4> but i just went to the standford site and downloaded the exe
[01:14] <nf4> and ran the exe
[01:14] <gnomefreak> SonicChao: right click click add to panel and look for it
[01:14] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: ah, I see
[01:14] <bbrazil> monomaniacpat: anything of note in Kconfig?
[01:14] <sobersabre> Kizzume !
[01:14] <sobersabre> are you here ?
[01:14] <Sleeping_Sloth> nf4: well, if you dont mind having it in a terminal, I guess that's not a poblem :p
[01:15] <sobersabre> Do you need your Delta working ?
[01:15] <nf4> is that  a problem how elese would it run
[01:15] <SonicChao> gnomefreak: it's called "Deskbar" in "Accessories"
[01:15] <SonicChao> thanks
[01:15] <karim> I have a problem with apt-get. when I upgrade all the packages, it ugprades them without error, but then apt-get wants to upgrade the same packages after that, like if nothing happened
[01:16] <Afief> I am unable to install  libgnomeui-dev, because some of it's dependencies won't install. can someone help me?
[01:16] <njdube> I have a really old funky emachine board with intergrated video that can only be disabled by putting in a video card.  I have a nvidia geforce 2 PCI card in there now.  Auto detection of my video is out of the question.  How do I install kubuntu with out it auto detecting my video and how to I setup my video manually?
[01:16] <sobersabre> karim are you running thecommand as root ?
[01:16] <bbrazil> karim: can you pastebin it?
[01:16] <SonicChao> gnomefreak: O...that's cool....it's a lot like Windoze version. :)
[01:16] <sobersabre> karim do you run the command as regular user or prepend sudo before it ?
[01:16] <karim> I sudo
[01:17] <karim> it would fail before that without su or sudo
[01:17] <monomaniacpat> bbrazil: I did have a look at that, I don't think so *checks again* here's the text: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17458
[01:17] <dli> Afief, first, to avoid typical n00b problems, clean up your sources.list ( !easysource), then, pastebin the error message
[01:17] <sobersabre> Kizzume are you here?!
[01:17] <Afief> !easysource
[01:17] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:18] <sobersabre> karim do you have enough disk space ?
[01:18] <bbrazil> monomaniacpat: I suspect that it's alla actually ment to be made part of a kernel tree. You'll have to figure out the rest on your own
[01:18] <angelos-> would you like to taste my own ubuntu flavor called dickuntu ?
[01:18] <Kizzume> I'm typing to you in private...
[01:18] <karim> sobersabre: 1G left
[01:18] <monomaniacpat> :'(
[01:18] <karim> so yes
[01:18] <sobersabre> right..
[01:19] <monomaniacpat> bbrazil: it was inside a kernel tree, actually, but there are hardly any other files there...
[01:19] <Kizzume> sobersabre: It took me a moment to realize you were typing in a private window--I've been responding..
[01:19] <bbrazil> monomaniacpat: it's not going to work outside of one
[01:19] <sobersabre> Kizzume so you see the private messages ?
[01:19] <maddash> Sanne: you don't know what you're talking about, do you?
[01:19] <Kizzume> sobersabre: Yes, and I have responded...
[01:19] <Sanne> maddash, huh?
[01:19] <sobersabre> let's go there, since this discussion has not much interest for the rest.
[01:20] <karim> good night
[01:20] <sobersabre> Kizzume I haven't seen any of your responses in there...
[01:20] <sobersabre> Kizzume which IRC client you are using ?
[01:20] <bbrazil> sobersabre: freenode stops unregistered users /msging registered user by defailt
[01:20] <Kizzume> sobersabre:  allright--there must be something wrong with my mirc--
[01:21] <nalioth> Kizzume: you need to register to speak with anyone on irc
[01:21] <sobersabre> 
[01:21] <sobersabre> ??
[01:21] <bbrazil> sobersabre: /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[01:21] <nalioth> !register > Kizzume
[01:21] <bbrazil> sobersabre: I think
[01:21] <Kizzume> oh
[01:21] <sobersabre> oh
[01:21] <Kizzume> !register Kizzume
[01:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about register Kizzume
[01:21] <sobersabre> bbrazil i am registered
[01:21] <sobersabre> moment
[01:21] <nalioth> Kizzume: read your PM from ubotu
[01:21] <sharms> Anyone know why I can't print? In my cups error long it just reads a ton of: "Local authentication certificate not found!"
[01:21] <sobersabre> Kizzume try again in the private window!
[01:21] <nalioth> sobersabre: you need to type /msg nickserv set unfiltered on     if you wish to recieve msgs from unregistered folks
[01:22] <monomaniacpat> jarrett: I PM'd you
[01:22] <sobersabre> nalioth thanks I've done that.
[01:22] <bbrazil> sobersabre: but Kizzume isn't
[01:22] <nalioth> bbrazil: it's fine now.
[01:22] <cbx33> anyone know what the package titled "Video Capture" is called
[01:22] <breadmachine> cwillu: god help me
[01:22] <sobersabre> bbrazil I am registered,
[01:22] <cbx33> it has a small interface quite long and thin?
[01:23] <breadmachine> who wants to try and help me tackle my problem next? lol
[01:23] <Sanne> maddash, would you be so kind and explain your previous statement to me, please?
[01:23] <nalioth> sobersabre: perhaps you and Kizzume might join #ubuntu-classroom (that is what this is for :)   )
[01:23] <jarrett> monomaniacpat: im sorry, but i dont see a pm
[01:23] <sobersabre> nalioth is it as noisy as in here ?
[01:23] <Flannel> sobersabre: no, its a lot quieter
[01:24] <nalioth> sobersabre: not at all
[01:24] <sobersabre> ok
[01:24] <sobersabre> we're already in the private little room...
[01:24] <sobersabre>  :>)
[01:24] <breadmachine> who here is well versed in the ways of running DSL in Ubuntu
[01:24] <VTStevenVT> hey, i'm having trouble with a walkthrough http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133427 anyone give me a hand?
[01:24] <swervez> hi i'm having trouble changing the resolution in boot-up
[01:24] <swervez> i want to install but the installer isn't able to be seen
[01:24] <dli> swervez, you mean X or framebuffer?
[01:25] <swervez> X I think
[01:25] <breadmachine> possibly an unsupported video adapter?
[01:25] <swervez> its supported
[01:25] <ErZo> Is there some swedish ubuntu channel? Got an Swedish Ubuntu user who cannot speak English very well. I'm not an Ubuntu user myself so.
[01:25] <swervez> but i'm not sure how to switch to it
[01:25] <dli> !fixres > swervez
[01:25] <Sub> ErZo, !se
[01:25] <Sub> !se
[01:25] <swervez> from term?
[01:25] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[01:25] <bbrazil> ErZo: #ubntun-se I guess
[01:25] <ErZo> bbrazil: Thanks ;) Sub: Thanks ^^
[01:25] <dli> !fixres
[01:25] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:25] <swervez> what is !fixres?
[01:25] <swervez> where do I type that
[01:25] <nalioth> swervez: just read in the channel
[01:26] <swervez> !fixres
[01:26] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:26] <nalioth> swervez: please read before triggering the same factoid
[01:26] <dli> nalioth, can you may ubotu prints to channel, when the user is not registered
[01:26] <swervez> thanks
[01:27] <nalioth> dli: ubotu prints to channel if the factoid is requested in the channel
[01:27] <Sanne> maddash, please. You made an unfair accusation when I was only trying to help. Please explain.
[01:27] <swervez> how can i force a resolution in VGA?
[01:28] <nalioth> Sanne: it was probably a mis-tabbed name completion
[01:28] <dli> swervez, read the howto first, then, ask your questions
[01:28] <swervez> i read it
[01:28] <swervez> i'm not sure where ubuntu is storing the fglrx if its not installed yet
[01:28] <Sanne> nalioth, oh, you think so? Ok. Would love to have maddash explain this, though. But thanks :)
[01:28] <monomaniacpat> jarrett: first thing - where did you get wine from? the one in the winehq repos is a lot easier to get working than the tarball
[01:29] <dli> swervez, then, it's an ati question
[01:29] <swervez> yeah but can i force a higher res than 640?  VGA supports up to 1024... I just need to run the installer
[01:29] <jarrett> monomaniacpat: i got wine from the ubuntu repos
[01:29] <nalioth> swervez: hit f1 at the boot prompt for resolution options
[01:29] <dli> !ati
[01:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:29] <swervez> it didn't seem to do anything
[01:30] <monomaniacpat> jarrett: uninstall it and add the wine hq repos... I'll get you the link
[01:30] <nalioth> swervez: hitting f1 gives YOU info so you can start the procedure how you want it
[01:30] <jarrett> monomaniacpat: ok, thank you
[01:30] <nalioth> !wine > monomaniacpat
[01:30] <dli> swervez, figure out your ati driver first, to test resolution only, you may be able to try the xorg ati driver
[01:30] <swervez> thanks for !ati
[01:30] <monomaniacpat> jarrett: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[01:31] <monomaniacpat> nalioth: thanks for the thought, but I didn't get a PM
[01:31] <breadmachine> id kill to actually be able to download Wine, but my internet is all screwy in linux
[01:31] <nalioth> monomaniacpat: interesting
[01:31] <monomaniacpat> nalioth: It just appeared, thanks
[01:31] <swervez> it would be nice if ubunti defaulted to 800x600 OR 640x480
[01:31] <Sub> breadmachine, how is it screwt?
[01:32] <shocktrooper1> how can I reset my screen resolution?  Display went kaput.
[01:32] <swervez> shock read !fixres
[01:32] <nalioth> !fixres > shocktrooper1
[01:32] <phire> try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:33] <breadmachine> Sub: well, i can nslookup, ping, wget, and whois sites, but when i try and access the pages in firefox, all i get is a big fat timeout message
[01:33] <hareem> does ubuntu have its own domain controller or something similar
[01:33] <bbrazil> breadmachine: is firefox setup to use a proxy?
[01:33] <breadmachine> bbrazil: nope
[01:33] <bbrazil> hareem: see samba if you want to be a pdc for windows machines
[01:33] <Sub> breadmachine, thats IPv6 messing up, i had to fix it on a friends machine
[01:34] <Sub> breadmachine, ill show you how to fix it
[01:34] <Sub> !ipv6
[01:34] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[01:34] <Sub> breadmachine,  ^^
[01:34] <Sub> try that,
[01:34] <breadmachine> Sub,: think you could walk me through some barebones steps?
[01:34] <Sub> breadmachine, you just need to edit a text file
[01:34] <breadmachine> Sub: even better
[01:34] <hareem> no no i want to setup a domain controller for ubuntu not windows pc
[01:34] <Sub> sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/bad_list
[01:34] <Sub> Add this line:  alias net-pf-10 off
[01:35] <bbrazil> hareem: what sort of setup are you looking for?
[01:35] <michaeljb2005> anyone and expert in sound and games?  I'm having a problem with sound causing ut2004 to be very choppy
[01:35] <hareem> something to run and manage my cyber cafe
[01:35] <jarrett> monomaniacpat: sorry, but i dont understand ther whole "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main" thing, it says "bash: deb: command not found"
[01:35] <bbrazil> hareem: there's various options for different numbers of systems, reliability, cost etc.
[01:35] <stupendo44> why is there no /etc/udev/permissions.d directory? Isn't it supposed to be there?
[01:35] <breadmachine> Sub: does it matter that im not using dapper? im actually using hoary
[01:35] <tms> hey, how come file-roller is not compiled with rar archive support?
[01:35] <bbrazil> hareem: then maybe look at ltsp
[01:35] <Agrajag> tms: unrar is nonfree
[01:36] <nalioth> !repos > jarrett
[01:36] <nalioth> !wine > jarrett
[01:36] <jeromm> alguien entiende el espaol?
[01:36] <Sub> breadmachine, thats the old breezy way, the new dapper method is diff, but yes it should work in hoary
[01:36] <stupendo44> tms, I think it is as long as you have unrar installed
[01:36] <nalioth> !es
[01:36] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:36] <Agrajag> !es
[01:36] <hareem> well i got the machines and all other stuff. But i can't seem to find a way to either time my user or control my users
[01:36] <hareem> all i can do is lockdown
[01:36] <stupendo44> it doesn't show progress though
[01:36] <jeromm> gracias
[01:37] <firebird619> Hi, I just installed Dapper (clean install) and I am trying to compile my modem drivers, which I know will work, but when I enter the command make clean, it says bash: make: command not found. What could be causing this problem?
[01:37] <breadmachine> Sub: ok, ill try that, but since im in XP ill have to reboot and do it, will you be around for a bit if its no go?
[01:37] <tms> stupendo44, oh..
[01:38] <monomaniacpat> jarrett: OK, hang on, let me remind myself
[01:38] <tms> well there is a "unrar-free" package in the rpos
[01:38] <stupendo44> firebird619, you need to install make using adept or synaptic
[01:38] <Sub> breadmachine, ill be here for 20 mins probs
[01:38] <stupendo44> also, you probably don't have gcc either
[01:38] <stupendo44> I had to do the same thing
[01:38] <monomaniacpat> jarrett: don't you just put it into the repos in synaptic?
[01:38] <breadmachine> Sub: kk then, hasta
 ok sorry, yeah, one sec, im a linux noob
[01:39] <firebird619> stupendo44: how can I do that, I don't have access to the Internet on that computer, are those packages on the Dapper Desktop CD.
[01:39] <stupendo44> firebird619, possibly, I'm not sure. the only way to know is to try it
[01:39] <dpn> Hi, has anyone installed xgl on an amd64 ubuntu install?
[01:39] <Agrajag> not just make, you probably need build-essential. That may be on the CD.
[01:39] <monomaniacpat> jarrett: settings>repos>add>custom, if you get stuck
[01:39] <stupendo44> I think it will use the cd as a repo as long as it's in
[01:40] <stupendo44> firebird619, I can't remember
[01:40] <Shizboom> is xgl the spinny cube desktop?
[01:40] <phire> yes
[01:40] <dpn> Yeah
[01:40] <stupendo44> Shizboom, yeah
[01:40] <firebird619> stupendo44: Ok, thanks. What are the package names for make and gcc. Are they just make and gcc or what?
[01:40] <Shizboom> i heard it was unstable, is that true?
[01:40] <phire> well you need both xgl and compiz
[01:40] <Agrajag> firebird619: just install build-essential
[01:40] <Agrajag> As long as it's on the Cd that will give you everything you need
[01:40] <dpn> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133427 , I'm reading this walkthrough and it says xserve-xgl and compiz will be in synaptic
[01:40] <dpn> but neither are
[01:40] <stupendo44> firebird619, yes, just make and gcc. gcc is dependent on gcc4.0, so it will install that
[01:40] <dpn> they dont mention changing the default repositories either
[01:40] <rpedro> firebird619: do 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[01:41] <phire> you need to add the repoes
[01:41] <Flannel> Shizboom: it's not necessarily unstable, but it's unsupported in Dapper, it should be fully supported in Edgy.  #ubuntu-xgl for more information.
[01:41] <dpn> where would I find them
[01:41] <firebird619> Agrajag: Do you know if build-essential is on the Desktop CD.
[01:41] <rpedro> firebird619: it installs everything you need to compile basic programs
[01:41] <Agrajag> no, I don't. Just try it, if it doesn't work we'll see what's possible from there
[01:41] <Shizboom> !edgy
[01:41] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:41] <Agrajag> It was on the older version CDs I think
[01:42] <Shizboom> !schedule
[01:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:42] <phire> dpn https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager/Xgl
[01:42] <firebird619> Ok, Thanks stupendo44, rpedro, and Agrajag.
[01:42] <michaeljb2005> when will the next schedule be released?
[01:42] <michaeljb2005> do you have a schedule for that?
[01:42] <swervez> hello
[01:42] <kizzume> Ugh, I forgot your handle of who I was just talking with....
[01:42] <Agrajag> a schedule schedule?
[01:42] <Eazy-> !wheresmypants
[01:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about wheresmypants
[01:42] <Shizboom> lol
[01:42] <swervez> i'm having some trouble using the ATI howto for fglrx
[01:42] <Snow_Shelter> can someone _please_ tell me why vobcopy is so freaking slow? I've compiled vobcopy, libdvdread, and libdvdcss from source, and it's still slower than a teenager on monday!
[01:42] <Eazy-> nn folks!
[01:42] <firebird619> I just tried it. Build-essential is on the Desktop CD. It's installing now.
[01:42] <swervez> I'm getting a fail on the GNOME Display restart
[01:43] <Agrajag> awesome
[01:43] <Snow_Shelter> swervez: I'll send you my 6600GT and you can kiss you problems good bye
[01:43] <stupendo44> why is there no /etc/udev/permissions.d directory? Isn't it supposed to be there?
[01:43] <michaeljb2005> for some reason when I run ut2004 with ut2004 sound it causes it to be choppy, with music player or something it's fine
[01:43] <swervez> no time for that snow
[01:43] <firebird619> Thanks
[01:43] <swervez> sorry
[01:43] <swervez> anybody?
ok, now do i just install the wine package or do i need any of the others (libwine, libwine-dev, wine-dev)?
[01:43] <kizzume> I forgot the handle of who I was just talking with--I switched computers....
[01:43] <Snow_Shelter> swervez: ATi has horrible drivers for linux, don't expect it to work without a lot of elbow grease, and even then it may not
[01:43] <swervez> what is the default root password for ubuntu desktop install cd?
[01:44] <Oddd> ati does have pretty bad drivers for linux
[01:44] <monomaniacpat> jarrett: I don't think so
[01:44] <meff> how do i change my locale in ubuntu? it thinks im en_AU .. need to change to en_US
[01:44] <phire> swervez: there is none
[01:44] <swervez> ok..
[01:44] <Oddd> What is the "best" supported video card for linux?
[01:44] <phire> use sudo
[01:44] <profoX`> Question: on my laptop, my CPU gets changed dynamically in userspace, I want to manually choose my CPU speed, what should I change ?
[01:44] <profoX`> Oddd: I think nvidia is your best shot
[01:44] <bbrazil> Oddd: anything not nividia or ati
[01:44] <phire> sudo -s gives you root console
[01:44] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: UT04 may be using a different sound engine, or it could be trying to push sound out that is the wrong rate (ie 44.1Khz instead of 48Khz). Running a music player might correct the audio
wine is now installed
[01:44] <monomaniacpat> jarrett: no, you don't I don't have them and steam works ok
[01:44] <DaveyJ> quick question.. i just formatted a new drive ext3.. and i know info is always written to the partition.. but 3.78gigs?
[01:44] <Snow_Shelter> Oddd: anything by nVidia has full GLX support.
[01:44] <Oddd> nvidia not open source tho?  Is that right?
[01:45] <phire> Oddd: yes
[01:45] <monomaniacpat> jarrett: OK... bear with me
[01:45] <Snow_Shelter> Daveyboy: was the original partition supposed to be 4GB>
[01:45] <profoX`> Oddd: thats right, unless you get an open source driver, but those suck
[01:45] <Snow_Shelter> ?*
[01:45] <profoX`> for nvidia
[01:45] <maddash> Sanne: You weren't trying to help. It's as simple as that.
[01:45] <kizzume> I forgot the handle of who I was just talking with--I switched computers....  can that person please send me a private message?
no problem, thanks for bearing with me
[01:45] <Oddd> it is a pretty sad state
[01:45] <DaveyJ> its a few hundred gigs
[01:45] <Snow_Shelter> Oddd: thier drivers aren't open source, but they sure as heck work a million times better than ANYTHING ATi has
[01:45] <DaveyJ> 232.88 total
[01:45] <mjr> DaveyJ, you probably want to reduce the space reserved for root, tune2fs -m /dev/partition for example
[01:45] <mjr> -m [number]  that is
[01:45] <profoX`> Question: on my laptop, my CPU gets changed dynamically in userspace, I want to manually choose my CPU speed, what should I change ?
[01:46] <Snow_Shelter> Daveyboy: is that the space used, or the space free?
[01:46] <jeremyb> I can't log into Ubuntu through my kubuntu machine
[01:46] <profoX`> DaveyJ: thats because of space reservation for root
[01:46] <Snow_Shelter> anyone here a vobcopy/dvd expert?
[01:46] <DaveyJ> this drive is for backup
[01:46] <DaveyJ> so i dont need that, right?
[01:46] <maddash> Sanne: I can't find a copy of your first message to me, since my irc window is quite full, but I'm certain that it went along the lines of "Don't install from debian.org"
[01:46] <Snow_Shelter> jeremyb: do you have ssh installed?
[01:46] <mjr> DaveyJ, probably not, you can pretty safely set it to 0
[01:46] <monomaniacpat> jarrett: now followe steps 2.3+3 of this guide (font and dll) http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Steam&back=HOWTO+INDEX+Wine+Games#prepare
[01:46] <michaeljb2005> Snow if I run a music player it doesn't let ut2004 play any sound
[01:46] <Sanne> maddash: yes, I said that Ubuntu and Debian are not meant to be binary compatible.
[01:47] <Snow_Shelter> DaveyJ: I'd reccomend JFS for large partitions like that. It's fast to check and fix, and has virtually no overhead
[01:47] <lucky__> hi
[01:47] <profoX`> DaveyJ:        -m reserved-blocks-percentage              Specify the percentage of the filesystem blocks reserved for the              super-user.   This  avoids  fragmentation, and allows root-owned              daemons, such as syslogd(8), to continue to  function  correctly              after non-privileged processes are prevented from writing to the              filesystem.  The default percentage is 5%.
[01:47] <DaveyJ> jfs eh? i never heard of it
[01:47] <michaeljb2005> do you mean to run the music player, then stop it and then run the game?
[01:47] <maddash> Sanne: a) You don't even know the exact parameters of my situation, so how can you even make that first statement, *and call it help* ?
[01:47] <Blissex> michaeljb2005: Snow_Shelter: I like JFS too, and have done extensive tests and benchmarks
[01:47] <DaveyJ> does it have good recovery incase of data loss?
[01:47] <profoX`> mjr, DaveyJ: you should NOT set it to 0 !!
[01:47] <Agrajag> michaeljb2005: have you tried using aoss?
[01:47] <lucky__> later upgrade,ubantu crash and don't load
[01:47] <Snow_Shelter> DaveyJ: yep. I use it on my 160GB partition (250GB drive) and my 115GB partition (160GB drive)
[01:47] <michaeljb2005> I don't know what tha tis
[01:47] <Agrajag> as in running "aoss ut2k4"
[01:48] <michaeljb2005> that is
[01:48] <Snow_Shelter> DaveyJ: I've never had data loss with it
[01:48] <kizzume> !register Kizzume
[01:48] <Blissex> DaveyJ: JFS is pretty good for recovery, better than most others.
[01:48] <lucky__> can someone help me?
[01:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about register Kizzume
[01:48] <michaeljb2005> oh, no I haven't
[01:48] <Agrajag> I think ut2k4 uses oss, not alsa
[01:48] <michaeljb2005> what wiill that do?
[01:48] <DaveyJ> okay so i should use JFS for backup?
[01:48] <Agrajag> so the aoss wrapper ight help
[01:48] <Snow_Shelter> DaveyJ: the check is damn fast though
[01:48] <Snow_Shelter> DaveyJ: on a partition that big, yup
[01:48] <michaeljb2005> I'll try it with aoss
[01:48] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: you see
[01:48] <maddash> Sanne: b) Given the information I *did* provide in the first message, how does wagging your finger at me for doing a "sudo dpkg -i ..." help?
[01:48] <Blissex> DaveyJ:  I currently use JFS for everything -- root, user, backup.
[01:48] <DaveyJ> =D
[01:49] <Blissex> actually I use 'ext3' for MS Windows filesystems though.
[01:49] <DaveyJ> i dont wanna reinstall ubuntu or maybe i'd use that for my normal fs ;)
[01:49] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: the audio program blocks you hardware sound device, so only one application can access it at one time. Unless you run arts, which puts everything to a soft mixer then out to hardware, but arts has other issues
[01:49] <kimo> Blissex: u r joking, right!
[01:49] <jeremyb> ok, I installed ssh and it still doesn't work right
[01:49] <Snow_Shelter> Blissex: really? I thought root had to be ext2/3
[01:49] <Snow_Shelter> Blissex: yea, how much work was that (ext3 for windows)
[01:49] <nalioth> maddash: Sanne take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:50] <Snow_Shelter> DaveyJ: I stick with ext3 for everything but my large partition, it works extremely well
[01:50] <Blissex> Snow_Shelter: no, it can be a anything supported, for Linux. As long as full POSIX semantics.
[01:50] <michaeljb2005> Snow_Shelter: So don't use arts?
[01:50] <Sanne> nalioth: will do, sorry.
[01:50] <DaveyJ> all my partitions are large lol
[01:50] <jeremyb> when I try to enter gnome, I see the 2 taskbar thingies at the top & bottom for gnome
[01:50] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: unless you're using KDE, no.
[01:50] <Snow_Shelter> DaveyJ: how big is your /?
[01:50] <jeremyb> nothing is on them and they flash until I CTRL+ALT+Backspace
[01:50] <DaveyJ> well.. all but that ;)
[01:50] <Blissex> kimo: no, not at all. The boot partition for MS Windows must be FAT32 or NTFS, but the other 3 partitions I use for MS Windows are all 'ext3'.
[01:50] <michaeljb2005> Snow_Shelter: What should I do then?
[01:50] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: I find arts brings more problems than it fixes
[01:50] <DaveyJ> only 40 gigs
[01:51] <DaveyJ> the rest are 120-350
[01:51] <maddash> Sanne: The response I *did* expect to my first msg was, "What *exactly* is happening..." from someone who is well-versed in this area. I hope you see my point. At any rate, I still appreciate the effort you made with the initial response.
[01:51] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: turn off your stereo? I'm used to playing games with no audio because it sucks so much
[01:51] <maddash> nalioth: gotcha.
[01:51] <DaveyJ> whats hfs ooc?
[01:51] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: see if you can control the audio sample rate from UT04
[01:51] <michaeljb2005> Snow_Shelter: You said to run the music player before hand to help correct the problem?  someone recommend aoss ut2004
[01:51] <Sanne> maddash: we are asked to continue on #ubuntu-offtopic, will you join me there?
[01:51] <Blissex> kimo: the reason is that someone has done a _very good_ 'ext3' (without journaling though) driver for MS Windows: http://FS-driver.org/
[01:51] <Snow_Shelter> DaveyJ: HFS is a partition type that apple computers used up until OS X, they now use HFS+ or HFS+ Journaled
[01:52] <[Wiebel] > Hi
[01:52] <DaveyJ> oh alright :)
[01:52] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: I have no experience with aoss, I cannot help you there
[01:52] <phire> How do I configuer grub?
[01:52] <[Wiebel] > is as an Intel 2915ABC wifi minipci card supported in ubuntu?
[01:52] <Snow_Shelter> phire: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:52] <jeremyb> do any of you have any other ideas for why I can't get into gnome?
[01:52] <Snow_Shelter> phire: I assume that's what you want
[01:52] <DaveyJ> is JFS specifically for anything or is it just a general FS?
[01:52] <michaeljb2005> Snow_Shelter: Do you know how I can correct the sample rate?
[01:52] <Snow_Shelter> [Wiebel] : doubt it
[01:52] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: as I don't own UT04 myself, no
[01:52] <[Wiebel] > hmmz :/
[01:52] <kimo> Blissex: Thanks for that!!!! Very weird
[01:53] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: you could see if you could adjust it from UT04
[01:53] <phire> no, I've installed grub via apt-get, but there is no /boot/grub
[01:53] <Sleeping_Sloth> if my sata drives are sda and sdb, what are my usb devices called in /dev?
[01:53] <Agrajag> Sleeping_Sloth: sdc?
[01:53] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: or you could manually resample the audio using a program like audacity, but be SURE to MAKE BACKUPS of the audio before you mess around with that stuff
[01:53] <[Wiebel] > what minipci wifi card should I buy if I want a/b/c support?
[01:53] <Agrajag> and sdd, sde, etc
[01:53] <[Wiebel] > with ubuntu
[01:53] <michaeljb2005> Snow_Shelter: hmm..perhaps you are right, I have the same problem with neverwinter nights, it doesn't happen as quickly but it does happen eventually
[01:53] <Snow_Shelter> phire: dunno then, I just let the PC install grub itself
[01:53] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: what? this problem doesn't occur at once?
[01:53] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: what's your hardware?
[01:53] <Sleeping_Sloth> agrajag: I must be blind - I didnt see sdc
[01:53] <[Wiebel] > a/b/g even
[01:54] <michaeljb2005> dell i9300
[01:54] <kimo> Blissex: how robust is that driver!
[01:54] <Snow_Shelter> ok ok ok, everyone be quiet, I want to make sure my MusicOne is recording! (just kidding)
[01:54] <Afief> I am unable to install  libgnomeui-dev, because some of it's dependencies won't install. can someone help me?
[01:54] <michaeljb2005> Snow_Shelter: dell i9300, I'm not at it right now so I can't check on the sound card
[01:55] <Snow_Shelter> Afief: reload your repo list, see if that helps
[01:55] <[Wiebel] > ah
[01:55] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: is this a laptop
[01:55] <[Wiebel] > ipw2200 seems to support the 2915 as well
[01:55] <michaeljb2005> Snow_Shelter: could this be an issue of incorrectly identified hardware, yes it is a laptop
[01:55] <Afief> Snow_Shelter: i did so, didn't help
[01:55] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: you're screwed
[01:55] <Afief> Snow_Shelter: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17455
[01:55] <Snow_Shelter> Afief: wait until someone fixes the repos
[01:55] <Blissex> kimo: that driver seems pretty robust to me. I use it all the time.
[01:55] <michaeljb2005> Snow_Shelter: Why?
[01:55] <DaveyJ> wth.. everytime i go to format to a new partition.. the file browser window pops up and then gparted cancels out
[01:55] <Afief> Snow_Shelter: ouch
[01:55] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: sound support on laptops in linux is horrible at best.
[01:55] <DaveyJ> i unmount it and everything
[01:56] <Afief> Snow_Shelter: is there a way to report this error?
[01:56] <Snow_Shelter> Afief: life sucks. Someone tell me why vobcopy sucks so much?
steam froze at 26%, in the guide it says to go here (http://appdb.winehq.org/commentview.php?appId=1163&versionId=1554&threadId=10204) if that happens, but the link is broken
[01:56] <michaeljb2005> Snow_Shelter: Hmm..seems to work in everything but the games
[01:56] <Blissex> kimo: 'ext3' does not have full NTFS semantics, like reparse points or resource forks or extended ACLs, but usually that is not an issue.
[01:56] <Snow_Shelter> Afief: don't think so, other than here
[01:56] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: is this the linux version of UT04, or are you using a windows emu?
[01:56] <michaeljb2005> linux version
[01:56] <Agrajag> michaeljb2005: I'm still willing to bet that it just doesn't like OSS
[01:56] <Afief> devs: libgnomeui-dev won't install for some reason. look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17455
[01:56] <michaeljb2005> Snow_Shelter: linux version
[01:56] <michaeljb2005> I'll try aoss when I get home
[01:57] <monomaniacpat> jarrett: have you run the winecfg yet?
[01:57] <michaeljb2005> Snow_Shelter:Agrajag: I'm leaving here in three minutes
[01:57] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: well, I'm not sure. I can't really help you troubleshoot it without being in the game, is there a demo I can try?
yes, but i didnt configure anything, is there something specific i need to do?
[01:57] <michaeljb2005> Snow_Shelter: Yeah if I can IM you later I'll send a link to you
[01:58] <monomaniacpat> jarrett: did you delete the .wine folder before reinstalling/running winecfg?
[01:58] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: I would try to see if you can adjust the sample rate from inside UT04, that would be most ideal. If not, find the sound files, if they're not in propritary format, and resample them using an audio program, try not to loose too much quality though.
yes
[01:58] <viper550> Hello everyone!
[01:58] <michaeljb2005> Snow_Shelter: I don't think I'm advanced enough for that
[01:58] <monomaniacpat> jarrett: I think that was all I did and it just *worked*
[01:58] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: ok.
[01:58] <monomaniacpat> join #winehq
[01:58] <snoops> when using mplayer to play videos etc, I'd like to be able to disable my power saving settings (eg turn monitor off after 45 mins), how can I do that?
[01:59] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: you got msn?
[01:59] <michaeljb2005> aim, yahoo, or here
[01:59] <Newb> Do all I need to do to try Ubuntu is to have the live cd on a drive and restart winxp?
[01:59] <viper550> I'm working pretty hard on a new theme for Edgy
[01:59] <monomaniacpat> jarrett: go to #winehq
[01:59] <viper550> Yes, that's all!
ok
[01:59] <Snow_Shelter> snoops: System > Preferences > Screensaver
[01:59] <Agrajag> as far as I know, all the sound in ut2k4 is vorbis. But it's all contained in specialized data files, and if you go screwing with them you probably get kicked from any server that checks client-side files, which is pretty much all of them
[01:59] <riddlebox> what is the package name in apt-get for the kernel ?
[01:59] <michaeljb2005> Snow_Shelter: aim, yahoo, or here
[01:59] <Flannel> toresbe: Newb right.
[01:59] <viper550> Step 1. Put the disk in
[01:59] <Newb> Strange, it won't work
[01:59] <viper550> Step 2. Reboot Computer
[01:59] <Snow_Shelter> Agrajag: is the sound messed up on your comp?
[01:59] <snoops> Snow_Shelter not my screensaver, my power saving settings?
[01:59] <phire> linux-image
[01:59] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: I heard you.
[01:59] <Snow_Shelter> snoops: one sec
[02:00] <michaeljb2005> Agrajag: I hope what you said works
[02:00] <Flannel> Newb: make sure your CD is set higher than your HD in your boot order (in BIOS)
[02:00] <snoops> k
[02:00] <viper550> Step 3. Let it load
[02:00] <Agrajag> Snow_Shelter: I play games in windows.
[02:00] <viper550> Step 4: Enjoy
[02:00] <viper550> Step 5: There is no step 5
[02:00] <Snow_Shelter> snoops: System > Preferences > Power Management
[02:00] <phire> riddlebox: linux-image-386 or linux-image-686
[02:00] <Newb> How do I set the CD higher than the HD in boot order?
[02:00] <Agrajag> I did play it in linux before, but on a different distro, on different hardware, so I have no idea what works and what doesn't
[02:00] <snoops> yes Snow_Shelter.. but how can I get it so when I play video it disables itself
[02:00] <Snow_Shelter> Agrajag: smart person. I use the free version of Cedega
[02:00] <snoops> then when the video stops, it enables itself again
[02:00] <Snow_Shelter> snoops: write a shell script?
[02:00] <viper550> BIOS baby
[02:00] <riddlebox> phire, thats what I thought thanks
[02:01] <Agrajag> oh snap, 5:00, bye
[02:01] <Newb> Ok, I'll try to check there. Brb
[02:01] <Snow_Shelter> snoops: I know Apple has made different energy saver settings for this kind of stuff, but Ubuntu isn't an Apple product
[02:01] <Snow_Shelter> Agrajag: office frag party?
[02:01] <eternalsword> I have dell's integrated Sigmatel 7.1 channel audio.  The sound works, but it is really quiet, does anyone know how to boost the volume?
[02:01] <Flannel> Newb: when you're starting your computer, you'll hit.. del, or f10 or somethign to enter the BIOS setup (this is before anything OS comes up), you can then change your boot order
[02:02] <Linuturk> I just installed LGeneral via Symantic. It doesn't appear in the menu. Where is it?
[02:02] <snoops> Snow_Shelter I guess it I see it's silly that it isn't in some gui setting already.. You'd think when you play a video that you don't want the monitor to go into standby mode
[02:02] <Snow_Shelter> Linuturk: in hyperspace
[02:02] <Snow_Shelter> snoops: I don't know, I don't have that problem
[02:02] <Linuturk> Snow_Shelter, you can't be serious
[02:02] <Snow_Shelter> snoops: partly because I don't watch movies on my PC, and partly because I just kill my screensaver before I watch one
[02:03] <Snow_Shelter> Linuturk: be careful what you believe around me ;)
[02:03] <DaveyJ> 1 item, with size 16.0 KB
[02:03] <DaveyJ> (some contents unreadable)
[02:03] <DaveyJ> does this mean my drive is no good?
[02:03] <DaveyJ> because it got corrupted last time i formatted it
[02:03] <Snow_Shelter> Linuturk: some applications don't appear in the menu, I don't know how to solve it
[02:03] <snoops> Snow_Shelter the screensaver isn't the problem, it's power saving :)
[02:03] <Snow_Shelter> snoops: what kind of moniter?
[02:03] <Snow_Shelter> DaveyJ: don't have permission?
[02:03] <michaeljb2005> Snow_Shelter: You male or fem?
[02:03] <snoops> a 24" widescreen dell lcd
[02:03] <Linuturk> Snow_Shelter, i figured as much, but where would the LGeneral game files be?
[02:03] <root_> #UBUNTU-ES
[02:03] <Snow_Shelter> DaveyJ: wipe it and start over
[02:03] <mark_> hey, could someone link me to a guide/tutorial on changing a window manager
[02:03] <DaveyJ> i'm trying to wipe it
[02:04] <deadcat> i just compiled the orinoco_usb driver. when i stick the card into my ibook. it loads the driver but fails to load the firmware. "orinoco_usb: No firmware to download" .. i have the orinoco_ezusb_fw file in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware but it doesnt see it i guess. this setup works fine on my debian ibook. but not the ubuntu ibook. can someone help?
[02:04] <DaveyJ> but it wont let me.. everytime i try, the filebrowser window pops up for "usbdisk"
[02:04] <asdx> does ubuntu has plans for using initng or another init in the next release?
[02:04] <Snow_Shelter> snoops: I've got a 17" Dell, and the only time it goes into low power mode is when the VGA signal gets cut, and that's controlled by software
[02:04] <DaveyJ> even after i delete the ext3 partition
[02:04] <asdx> or it will still ship with sysvinit?
[02:04] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: dude, computer geek, you figure it out
[02:04] <mark_> hey, could someone link me to a guide/tutorial on changing a window manager
[02:04] <michaeljb2005> I'm out, see you later Snow_Shelter: women can be geeks too
[02:04] <Snow_Shelter> Linuturk: 'sudo updatedb' 'locate lgeneral'
[02:04] <Flannel> mark_: you mean like, installing K/Xubuntu?
[02:04] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: later dude
[02:04] <mark_> well, except over Gnome
[02:04] <Snow_Shelter> michaeljb2005: and no, if a woman has computer smarts, she's got 'skills'
[02:04] <Snow_Shelter> nooo!
[02:05] <mark_> I'd like to install another window manager on this current installation
[02:05] <snoops> Snow_Shelter right, I have it set in power saving to turn off after 30 mins of inactivity.. no where can I see the option of disablity that when a video is played
[02:05] <Snow_Shelter> he left before my witty comment
[02:05] <Flannel> mark_: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:05] <mark_> ahh
[02:05] <ryanakca> brainsik: hey, sorry... output is http://pastebin.ca/81887
[02:05] <mark_> what about fluxbox
[02:05] <benplaut> mark_: which window manager do you want?
[02:05] <mark_> ^^
[02:05] <benplaut> mark_: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[02:05] <Flannel> mark_: fluxbox is in repositories I believe
[02:05] <benplaut> mark_: sudo apt-get install fluxbox fluxbox-themes
[02:05] <mark_> thanks ben
[02:05] <mark_> :)
[02:05] <Snow_Shelter> snoops: yea, you can write the software to do that, since it doesn't exsist, or hang around here for a month until some drunk colledge kid gets back from a frat party, and in his drunken stupididity he agress to write it for you
[02:06] <Snow_Shelter> snoops: I generally don't like to wait that long, plus, the code generally ends up drunk
[02:06] <dpn> This walkthrough is infuriating, if your title bars are indeed gone then great.....what the hell does it mean if they're still there.
[02:06] <mark_> hmm
[02:06] <mark_> how would I change to fluxbox now
[02:06] <mark_> I actually already installed it
[02:06] <brainsik> ryanakca: is it still happening?
[02:06] <mark_> just not sure how to switch
[02:06] <mark_> I killed x and typed "fluxbxo", but obviously you need x running
[02:06] <mark_> fluxbox*
[02:06] <dpn> Has anyone here used the xgl walkthough to install on an amd64 system succesfully ?
[02:07] <DaveyJ> i swear this thing keeps auto-mounting
[02:07] <Flannel> dpn: #ubuntu-xgl is the place to be!
[02:07] <Sleeping_Sloth> dpn: yes
[02:07] <snoops> Snow_Shelter okay, I'm fine with the idea of writing it, but it needs to work transparently through the gui.. eg not encapsulting the player in a shell script that just disables it then runs the player I chose, but well, it needs to work when I just open a player
[02:07] <dpn> No one ever talks in there
[02:07] <phire> I know someone who did
[02:07] <rathe> how do i edit the list thing that lets me apt-get stuff from that universe thing, srry im new
[02:07] <snoops> dpn yep
[02:07] <ryanakca> brainsik: yes
[02:07] <corvette> Mark : you need to select it in the GDM startup login thingy
[02:07] <phire> dpn: ask
[02:07] <mark_> ahhh
[02:07] <hoehaver> lol
[02:07] <Sleeping_Sloth> dpn: I followed the howto and it worked as expected
[02:07] <hoehaver> lol
[02:07] <mark_> okay corvette
[02:07] <hoehaver> ....i need help
[02:07] <snoops> you following a guide dpn?
[02:07] <root_> #DEBIAN-ES
[02:07] <dpn> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133427
[02:07] <rathe> anyone?
[02:07] <dpn> on #6 when I restart X my title bars are apparently supposed to disapear
[02:07] <dpn> but they don't
[02:08] <phire> help with what hoehaver?
[02:08] <snoops> ah duon't use that guide dpn
[02:08] <benplaut> rathe: use this command:  "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[02:08] <jrib> root_: everything ok?
[02:08] <hoehaver> um... i mounted my second hard drive to  home/john
[02:08] <reiki> ok I'm going to shut down in a few minutes, toss a 20gig drive in here to save off some stuff before formatting this drive? if I cp -r /home the otherdrive/home2 ... what else would I want to copy over.... /var?
[02:08] <hoehaver> it erased me account
[02:08] <snoops> it's using very old builds of compiz and xgl.. so not good at all
[02:08] <dpn> What guide do I use?  That one is stickied in the main forum
[02:08] <brainsik> ryanakca: where was the first pastebin output?
[02:08] <snoops> dpn, nvidia or ati?
[02:08] <hoehaver> i made another one using  sudo adduser hoehaver admin
[02:08] <dpn> nvidia
[02:08] <dpn> on amd64
[02:08] <snoops> cool, okay, revert the changes you currently made
[02:08] <ryanakca> root_: I thought you weren't going to log into irc with the user root anymore :P
[02:08] <hoehaver> i went into this account and disabled the hard drive in enabled
[02:09] <ryanakca> brainsik: I think your talking about this: http://pastebin.ca/81794
[02:09] <dpn> I made a lot of changes =/
[02:09] <hoehaver> i went back into my origanal account and i got an error message saying like..." control...something, ect ect " hell i forget
[02:09] <rathe> what is the min ram requirements for ubuntu
[02:09] <rathe> ?
[02:09] <Moocasso> I'm having trouble compiling something, and I've already killed one installation, so before I try it, I'd like some help if I could get some :)  I'm following the instructions in the readme, and the first step is ./configure, which gives me an error 'SDL version 1.2.0 not found'
[02:09] <bbrazil> rathe: 196MB for the desktop CD
[02:09] <hoehaver> but!, um... on my origanal account the sound works but on this one it doesnt
[02:09] <bbrazil> rathe: alternate uses less
[02:09] <brainsik> ryanakca: you said something about proxies before. is apt trying to use a proxy?
[02:10] <rathe> bbrazil will it run faster than windows xp on a 384mb ram machine
[02:10] <bbrazil> rathe: depends on what you do with it
[02:10] <Snow_Shelter> Did you know? Ubuntu is ancient african for "couldn't install debian".
[02:10] <ryanakca> brainsik: no... It shouldn't
[02:10] <ruskie_> hey i get really bad default settings for my screen, 60hz pain in the eyes >_<
[02:10] <Snow_Shelter> brb, have to walk the dog
[02:10] <phire> hoehaver: well the contents of /home/john are missing
[02:10] <hoehaver> and the screen herz is so high on the origanal one that i cant see any thing at all to work around
[02:10] <brainsik> ryanakca: yeah, i know it shouldn't but it looks like it is
[02:10] <rathe> bbrazil generl use and playing wow etc
[02:10] <snoops> dpn okay.. this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl that should get you sorted.. but you'll also want to add another repository for the 64bit packages that repository would be " deb http://ubuntu.moshen.de/ dapper all"
[02:10] <hoehaver> well...can i just delete my origanal account
[02:10] <bbrazil> rathe: I don't have enough experiance of XP to comment
[02:10] <ryanakca> brainsik: I've never ever used proxies... as a matter o'fact I barely know what a proxy is other than its a middle man who makes your identity "anonymous"
[02:11] <hoehaver> and will that fix the problem with the sound ...or....?
[02:11] <phire> you could
[02:11] <ruskie_> no ideas?
[02:11] <phire> it might not fix sound
[02:11] <brainsik> ryanakca: that's a bad definition, but we digress. :)
[02:11] <Moocasso> I'm having trouble compiling something, and I've already killed one installation, so before I try it, I'd like some help if I could get some :)  I'm following the instructions in the readme, and the first step is ./configure, which gives me an error 'SDL version 1.2.0 not found'  Do I need to download SDL?  Or is there a package for it under Synaptic under a different name?  Or should I ignore it?
[02:11] <brainsik> ryanakca: do you have an /etc/apt/apt.conf?
[02:11] <rathe> how do i make the user list show up in this gnome xchat that comes with ubuntu
[02:11] <rathe> ?
[02:11] <Jemt> Moocasso: Please don't repeat your self
[02:11] <viper550> "Did you know? Ubuntu is ancient african for "couldn't install debian"." LOL! IT actually means humanity
[02:11] <Moocasso> Jemt: sorry, didn't see a response...
[02:12] <hoehaver> is there a termal ...line, that i can type in to adjust the hertz?
[02:12] <Jemt> Moocasso: Does an older version of the program exist in repositories ?
[02:12] <snoops> dpn also that moshen repository is gpg authenticated, so you need to go to the main url (http://ubuntu.moshen.de) and add the key it mentions
[02:12] <rathe> is there a command to see if the graphics drivers are installed for my video card on ubuntu?
[02:12] <hoehaver> if so , than that will help
[02:12] <Linuturk> if an item appears in the usr directory, shouldn't it appear under the menu?
[02:12] <ryanakca> brainsik: yes... 1 lines... the first: APT::Authentication::TrustCDROM "true";      the second: Acquire::::Proxy "false";
[02:12] <Jemt> Moocasso: If so, you might be able to get build-essential fetch the dependencies for you
[02:12] <ryanakca> brainsik: delete the second one?
[02:12] <bcron> what do you call the system and weather info that is part of the background on some desktops?
[02:12] <Moocasso> Jemt: I didn't see anything named SDL, would it possibly be under a different name?
[02:12] <brainsik> ryanakca: hrmm, that shouldn't matter
[02:12] <Jemt> Moocasso: Which program are you trying to install ?
[02:13] <eobanb> rathe, glxinfo
[02:13] <Moocasso> Jemt: Dosbox, it's a DOS emulator
[02:13] <brainsik> ryanakca: wait, that's not what it's supposed to say
[02:13] <rathe> k go thanks
[02:13] <eobanb> hoehaver, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:13] <brainsik> ryanakca: mine says this: Acquire::http::Proxy "false";
[02:13] <phire> could someone give me the boot commands for booting ubuntu from grub?
[02:13] <hoehaver> thank you
[02:13] <rathe> sobanb what do i look for when i list all that
[02:13] <brainsik> ryanakca: you are missing that "http" between the double set of double colons
[02:14] <Jemt> Moocasso: It's in repositories
[02:14] <reiki> hmmm.... I press the button on the CD and it won't open. .... hmmmmm....
[02:14] <Jemt> Moocasso: apt-get install dosbox
[02:14] <Jemt> Moocasso: (As root)
[02:14] <eobanb> rathe, by the way, ubuntu runs fairly well on 384 MB of RAM
[02:14] <Moocasso> Jemt:  As in, in Synaptic somewhere, right?  Or am I missing something...
[02:14] <phire> reiki: you need to unmount it
[02:14] <Moocasso> Jemt: k, I'll try that
[02:14] <riddlebox> is anyone else having problems getting phpmyadmin, or any php files to work with apache in dapper?
[02:14] <archetypo> kaot you here?
[02:14] <rathe> eobanb i did that glxinfo what do i look for to see if my card is installed
[02:15] <Jemt> Moocasso: Oh, sorry. I'm using clean Debian. But I would be surprised if it was not available in the Ubuntu Repositories
[02:15] <eobanb> rathe, at the top, where it says Direct Rendering
[02:15] <ryanakca> brainsik: nothing different...
[02:15] <rathe> this is the first linux that worked on this laptop without a load of ashle
[02:15] <rathe> :d
[02:15] <rathe> im happy
[02:15] <rathe> lol
[02:15] <reiki> phire: how do I check if it's mounted?  And wouldn't eject unmount it and open th drawer?
[02:15] <rathe> it says direct rendering Yes
[02:15] <rathe> so is that a yes?
[02:15] <Moocasso> Jemt:  It says it can't find the package
[02:15] <eobanb> rathe, you're all set.
[02:15] <ruskie_> hey i wanna change my screen hz, howdo i go abaut it?
[02:15] <W8TAH> hi folks i am trying to upgrade Konversation on my breezy system -- i have the deb file -- how do I make synaptic use that to upgrade it?
[02:15] <Jemt> Moocasso: Have you enabled Multiverse ?
[02:16] <rathe> k coo
[02:16] <eobanb> ruskie_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:16] <Jemt> Moocasso: Could you pastebin the content of /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[02:16] <ruskie_> alrighyt
[02:16] <rathe> eobanb one last question for now, is there a way to make transparent menus etc in the default gui
[02:16] <eobanb> W8TAH, all you have to do is sudo apt-get install konversation.  you don't need to download a .deb file yourself
[02:16] <Moocasso> Jemt:  Ooo, sorry, hold on, my bad, seems ot be working now
[02:16] <Jemt> Moocasso: No problem :)
[02:16] <NeoPyProg> 
[02:16] <eobanb> rathe, no, not really, not without xgl and compiz.
[02:17] <Moocasso> Jemt: Seems to have worked that time :D  Now I just need to figure out how to use the bloody program, lol.  Thankyou very much :)
[02:17] <W8TAH> eobanb, .19 does not appear to be in synaptic -- it says the latest avail is .18
[02:17] <rixxon> can you make curl follow redirections?
[02:17] <rathe> whats that and is it worth the trouble ?
[02:17] <phire> reiki: type mount to see if it is mounted, sometime eject and unmount doesn't work
[02:17] <eobanb> rathe, probably not for your situation, no.
[02:17] <Jemt> Moocasso: You are very welcome :)
[02:17] <Newb> Thanks, that did the trick. Too bad it was just a demo. Well I'm off to reading more about Ubuntu
[02:17] <eobanb> W8TAH, do you really need 0.19?
[02:18] <W8TAH> eobanb, yes, it has a few bugfixes in it that i want unless i will endanger my system by installing it
[02:18] <snoops> rathe xgl is an open gl rendered server layer on top of x, and compiz is a compositing manager that utilizes an open gl desktop.. They're both still in alpha, so a lot of trouble.. and problems with open gl software running on it still
[02:18] <eobanb> W8TAH, i see 0.19
[02:18] <eobanb> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/kde/konversation
[02:18] <rathe> k tks man
[02:18] <reiki> phire: does not show as mounted
[02:18] <W8TAH> humm -- ok - maybe i dont have the right repos enabled
[02:18] <eobanb> W8TAH, are you running 6.06?
[02:19] <W8TAH> no - 5.10 -- breezy badger
[02:19] <snoops> rathe in saying that, check it out at least.. it's amazing stuff
[02:19] <eobanb> W8TAH, well there you go..
[02:19] <deadcat> anyone have problem with zd1211 on ibook?
[02:19] <eobanb> W8TAH, time to dist-upgrade..
[02:19] <eobanb> deadcat, what's a zd1211
[02:19] <spades> W8TAH if you dont wanna upgrade, build it from source
[02:19] <W8TAH> eobanb, ok
[02:19] <snoops> rathe there are lots of videos on youtube etc showcasing a few of the features..just use keywords xgl compiz :)
[02:19] <ryanakca> brainsik: any ideas?
[02:19] <DaveyJ> alright
[02:19] <Jemt> W8TAH: What seems to be the problem ?
[02:19] <DaveyJ> i just booted off my gparted livecd
[02:20] <DaveyJ> and everything went peachy :)
[02:20] <brainsik> ryanakca: one more
[02:20] <W8TAH> spades, ok - last time i tried that i complaind about not being able to connect to x for some reason or the other
[02:20] <deadcat> eobanb: usb wireless
[02:20] <ThJ> how do i prevent a device driver from loading in ubuntu? i don't want to use my internal sound card as i have a PCMCIA one. also, tell me how to set the global default sound device, as just editing the prefs only affects my own profile.
[02:20] <eobanb> deadcat, what's the chipset
[02:20] <brainsik> ryanakca: type `env` and look for something about proxy there
[02:20] <snoops> rathe and if you do decide to give it a go.. use this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[02:20] <deadcat> eobanb: zd1211
[02:20] <spades> W8TAH just offering an alternative, you dont _have_ to upgrade if you dont want to, it might help if you need an updated app that is known to work in dapper though
[02:20] <ryanakca> brainsik: YOU ARE A GENIUS!
[02:20] <phire> reiki: thats strange, rebooting will fix it
[02:21] <ryanakca> brainsik: http_proxy=http://localhost:4001
[02:21] <dpn> How do I delete stuff through the cmd line, what's the cmd? rmv? dlt?
[02:21] <W8TAH> spades -- i appreciate the alternative
[02:21] <brainsik> ryanakca: nice, that's the problem
[02:21] <ryanakca> brainsik: how do I remove it?
[02:21] <ThJ> why does it say unregged? i'm registered with nickserv!
[02:21] <eobanb> deadcat, oh okay, sorry
[02:21] <phire> dpn: rm
[02:21] <eobanb> deadcat, have you checked the ubuntu forum
[02:21] <phire> dpn: rm -r for directires
[02:21] <dennis_> if someone can help me set up my nvidia card can you pm me?
[02:21] <eobanb> ThJ, this isnt the place for that question
[02:21] <Jemt> dennis_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:21] <brainsik> ryanakca: assuming you are using bash, try `export -n http_proxy`
[02:22] <snoops> k dennis_
[02:22] <reiki> guess I'll try a reboot
[02:22] <W8TAH> jemt -- the prob is -- looks like im outta luck till i upgrade -- thanks any way
[02:22] <ThJ> eobanb: it isn't? i type /join #ubuntu and it sends me to #ubuntu-unregged
[02:22] <hoehaver> HEY WHO E VER told me sudo dpkg ect ect ect
[02:22] <hoehaver> thank you very much
[02:22] <ThJ> eobanb: i figured it had to do with me being nickserv-regged or not.
[02:22] <eobanb> ThJ, did you identify to nickserv?
[02:22] <brainsik> ryanakca: any idea how that got set?
[02:22] <Jemt> W8TAH: Oh? What does Dapper do that Breezy dosn't ?
[02:22] <ryanakca> brainsik: nope
[02:22] <brainsik> ryanakca: are u using bash?
[02:22] <W8TAH> jemt -- support konversation .19
[02:22] <ThJ> eobanb: yes, in fact that's why i rejoined just now.
[02:22] <ryanakca> maybe when I installed a tty web browser?
[02:22] <ryanakca> brainsik: yeah
[02:23] <hoehaver> can someone tell  me how to mount a second hard drive
[02:23] <ThJ> eobanb: i id'ed with it after joining, so i left and rejoined but it didnt work apparently
[02:23] <hoehaver> its fat 32
[02:23] <brainsik> ryanakca: make sure to check your ~/.bash* files for that stuff.
[02:23] <dpn> snoops, can you answer a question I sent you in the pm?
[02:23] <eobanb>  /msg nickserv help , ThJ
[02:23] <snoops> dennis_ you need to have a registered nick to pm someone on freenode
[02:23] <orbin> hoehaver: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[02:23] <ThJ> eobanb: what? i'm identified with it!
[02:23] <eobanb> hoehaver, sure, just go to System > Administration > Disks
[02:23] <eobanb> ThJ, then what's the issue?
[02:24] <hoehaver> no no, the last time i went to system> admin.... i deleted my account
[02:24] <hoehaver> :))
[02:24] <dennis_> oh sorry hang on
[02:24] <ThJ> eobanb: why am i redirected to the unregged channel if i am regged?
[02:24] <dennis_> I went through the online guide
[02:24] <benplaut> ThJ: are you logged it?
[02:24] <eobanb> ThJ, well you seem to be here right now
[02:24] <cheatersrealm> so I install ubuntu breezy and then immediately dist-upgrade to dapper, upon restarting in dapper, I have no networking (no eth0 or a.e. either) any idea what modules I need to load?  (iBook g4)
[02:24] <dennis_> installed it and enabled it
[02:24] <hoehaver> i mounted it to /home/john
[02:24] <dennis_> but when i reboot I get no signal to my monitor
[02:24] <hoehaver> and it fucked it up
[02:24] <dennis_> I can only boot using vesa
[02:24] <Pupeno> !games
[02:24] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[02:24] <kolaje> ls
[02:24] <ThJ> eobanb: my channel status line says #ubuntu-unregged >.>
[02:24] <kolaje> clear
[02:24] <kolaje> sorry
[02:25] <keleus> how do i change the order of my soundcards? (so my external USB is preffered over the built-in ali5451)
[02:25] <benplaut> ThJ: are you in irssi?
[02:25] <ThJ> benplaut: logged into nickserv? i identified with it.
[02:25] <ThJ> benplaut: yes.
[02:25] <benplaut> #ubuntu(+Lcfnt #ubuntu-unregged)
[02:25] <keleus> Also look at happypenguin.org
[02:25] <benplaut> it's just saying that it redirects to there
[02:25] <dpn> snoops?
[02:25] <ThJ> benplaut: oh
[02:25] <snoops> dpn yep?
[02:25] <dpn> Can you check the PM I sent you please
[02:25] <ThJ> benplaut: i don't use irssi since... 2 years ago
[02:25] <benplaut> heh
[02:26] <snoops> need to be registered to pm dpn :/
[02:26] <ThJ> benplaut: didn't know IRC flags did that these days
[02:26] <dpn> ugh
[02:26] <benplaut> it's just saying that it redirects to there
[02:26] <ThJ> figured it was something other excotic.
[02:26] <benplaut> woops
[02:26] <benplaut> ThJ: yea... they do anything :P
 one of the steps in the guide i originally followed had me install:
 dpkg --force-all -i compiz_cvs20060218+opacityplugin-1_amd64.deb
 dpkg --force-all -i glitz-cvs_0.5.3+cvs20060218-1_amd64.deb
 dpkg --force-all -i mesa-cvs_20060218-1_amd64.deb
 dpkg --force-all -i xorg-xgl_0.0.1+cvs20060218+patch-1_amd64.deb
 how would i go about removing what those installed
[02:26] <eobanb> !flood
[02:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:27] <ThJ> when i started IRCing, +m was kind of a novelty
[02:27] <snoops> dpn a simple /msg nickserv register [password]  does the trick though
[02:27] <Jemt> !tell dpn about pastebin
[02:27] <bbrazil> ThJ: exotic modes tend to be specific to a small number of ircds
[02:27] <ThJ> bbrazil: yeah
[02:27] <ThJ> bbrazil: that, combined with me forgetting how IRSSI works...
[02:27] <snoops> dpn you can remove them from synaptic.. eg search for them, and then right click and check completely remove
[02:27] <eobanb> dpn, talk about xgl and compiz in #ubuntu-xgl please
[02:27] <ThJ> back to my actual question
[02:27] <dpn> theres no one in there
[02:27] <ThJ> preventing a device from loading.
[02:27] <dpn> I would If someone responded
[02:28] <eobanb> dpn, be patient?
[02:28] <dpn> Ive been in there hours
[02:28] <ThJ> is it even possible to do that?
[02:28] <snoops> I'm in there now dpn, so I can help ya there if you want
[02:29] <Jemt> dpn: In short, what is your problem ?
[02:29] <phire> could someone give me a copy of their /boot/grub/menu.lst please?
[02:29] <farky> Is there a way to a restore point? Or image the disk or something?
[02:29] <W8TAH> spades -- i am trying to compile from source as you suggested -- i am getting the following error - -configure error -- cant find X includes -- how do i resolve this?
[02:29] <lampshade> Does anyone know how to move between tabs on Gedit with a shortcut key??? Can you not do it??? What the hell?
[02:30] <ThJ> i have googled, i found one relevant forum post, plus a reply from the same person, "i take it from the silence that this cannot be done?"
[02:30] <Jemt> lampshade: ALT+n (n = 1, 2, 3)
[02:30] <benplaut> lampshade: probably alt+#
[02:30] <benplaut> err
[02:30] <benplaut> ^^ :P
[02:30] <eobanb> W8TAH, don't try compiling conversation yourself, the dependencies are outrageous
[02:30] <Jemt> lampshade: Or "scroll mode" : CTRL + PageUp/Down
[02:30] <lampshade> yar  I tried everything but that.  Is there a way to change that?  I was doing ctrl+tab ctrl + -->  stuff like that
[02:31] <lampshade> Oh awesome
[02:31] <DaveyJ> JFS seems to be faster overall against ext3
[02:31] <lampshade> that's what I was looking for
[02:31] <W8TAH> eobanb, ok - thanks a bunch - -i appreciate the warning - - back to .18
[02:31] <eobanb> W8TAH, dpkg -i the 0.19 .deb file or upgrade to dapper
[02:31] <SurfnKid> ok people i have a big problem
[02:31] <eobanb> SurfnKid, well we can't help you until we know what it is.
[02:31] <Jemt> lampshade: Glad I could help :)
[02:31] <lampshade> Jemt: do you have to enable that, ctrl+page up and page down do nothing for me
[02:31] <W8TAH> eobanb, dpkg -i hits dep errors also
[02:31] <ThJ> :b
[02:31] <SurfnKid> lol
[02:31] <eobanb> W8TAH, then upgrade to dapper
[02:31] <qwzybug> Sup #ubuntu
[02:31] <eobanb> welcome, qwzybug
[02:31] <W8TAH> eobanb, i'll wait till i switch the system to gentoo and do it from there
[02:31] <qwzybug> hey, I have a quick question
[02:31] <Sub> !ask
[02:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:32] <Jemt> lampshade: Hm, PageUp/Down is only for firefox then
[02:32] <SurfnKid> i want dapper, but withouth all the hassle
[02:32] <squiggly> DCC SEND NARFSNARF 0 0 0
[02:32] <qwzybug> is the PowerPC CD download a LiveCD?
[02:32] <eobanb> !ops
[02:32] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[02:32] <qwzybug> I booted it, and it just gave me options for installing
[02:32] <Sub> SurfnKid, like what?
[02:32] <benplaut> f*er
[02:32] <Sub> netsplit?
[02:32] <alindeman> eobanb: Yo?
[02:32] <eobanb> Sub, no, an idiot script kiddie
[02:32] <clem> SurfnKid: what hassle ?
[02:32] <eobanb> !ops
[02:32] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[02:32] <squiggly> !ops
[02:32] <Sub> eobanb, itz a netsplit.
[02:32] <eobanb> Sub, no, it's not.
[02:32] <ryanakca> weee netsplit!
[02:33] <Sub> eobanb, it is a netsplit for sure.
[02:33] <nalioth> ryanakca: now
[02:33] <ryanakca> eobanb: don't worry... it IS a netsplit
[02:33] <nalioth> ryanakca: no it is not
[02:33] <ThJ> my problem is small, but annyoing: each time my laptop boots up, Ubuntu enables my built-in sound card, and plays its intro tune at wham smack maximum volume, scaring the hell out of me. i wanna disable the soundcard. :p
[02:33] <Sub> eobanb, they all have similar hosts.
[02:33] <ThJ> K-lined?
[02:33] <ThJ> i bet this is an attack
[02:33] <lampshade> ugh so other people felt that then huh haha
[02:33] <SurfnKid> Sub,  wheeling and reeling with the configuration of the wifi, im not so troubled by the ATI configuration, but wifi is what is bothering me, I think im going to ruin my breezy by doing the Dapper update, if it dont work I'll just reinstall Dapper from scratch
[02:33] <ThJ> hey wasnt there a hack attack a few weeks ago? i raad about that on slashdot
[02:33] <Sub> SurfnKid, what card you got?
[02:33] <benplaut> ThJ: yea... bantown
[02:33] <ryanakca> nalioth: what is it?
[02:33] <darkfrog> I'm trying to install ubuntu, but it keeps telling me I haven't selected my swap partition....I created a linux-swap, what more do I have to do?
[02:33] <eobanb> !ops
[02:33] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[02:33] <qwzybug> anyone know, is the PPC CD a LiveCD? I booted it and it only seemed to have options for installation
[02:33] <eobanb> squiggly needs to be kicked immediately
[02:34] <rob> heh, I love rumors
[02:34] <rob> eobanb, he was klined
[02:34] <Sub> darkfrog, try "swapon /dev/hdxx wherer hdxx is the partition
[02:34] <ryanakca> ooooh... I see see
[02:34] <nalioth> eobanb: what is up?
[02:34] <ThJ> ubotu is deopped?
[02:34] <Cirvin_Fox> hey, can someone help me with a sound issue regarding ALSA and Jack?
[02:34] <kolaje> I just installed nvidia drivers, and in /etc/X11/xorg.conf i changed the "nv" to "nvidia" and changed some other option for the driver to support my laptop's "geforce4 420 go" display adapter.  the problem is the resolution max in x is 600x800, but the xorg.conf file says that there are higher resolutions available for use.  is there anyway to allow me to use them in X overriding what it displays is possible for me to use?
[02:34] <darkfrog> Sub, can I not specify during installation?
[02:34] <ryanakca> routers
[02:34] <nalioth> ryanakca: join me in #ubuntu-classroom please
[02:34] <Sub> dark, it should of created one during install
[02:35] <darkfrog> Sub, I'm manually partitioning
[02:35] <SurfnKid> Sub, bcm4306  works 100% on Breezy, i didnt have any problems with ndiswrapper, Im just trying to find out if Dapper will accept ndiswrapper if i force it or invoke a driver another way
[02:35] <lampshade> kolaje: after changing the resolution in the xorg.conf you should be able to choose the right resolution in System >> Preferences >> Screen Resolution
[02:35] <kleber> hello folks, anybody can help me about Dapper + XGL + NVidia ??
[02:35] <eobanb> that would be a question for #ubuntu-xgl
[02:36] <Sub> SurfnKid, i have a broadcom card here, with no issues with the bcm43xx driver
[02:36] <Sub> in dapper
[02:36] <SurfnKid> youre shi**ing me
[02:36] <SurfnKid> 4306?
[02:36] <Cirvin_Fox> is there a channel about the sound systems?
[02:36] <Sub> SurfnKid, no ndiswrapper
[02:36] <eobanb> !sound
[02:36] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:36] <darkfrog> Sub, mind if I message you privately?
[02:36] <SurfnKid> but its up as eth1 instead of wlan0
[02:36] <Sub> SurfnKid, 0000:00:06.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[02:36] <Sub> that one?
[02:36] <ThJ> i take it there's no quick answer for my "disable a device" question. i know my way around debian if that helps.
[02:36] <kolaje> lampshade:  in xorg.conf in the "screen" section, it shows the displays as having higher resolutions.  is there a particular section that i need to set the exact resolution i want?
[02:36] <Cirvin_Fox> thanks:-)
[02:36] <Sub> SurfnKid, you need to rip the FW and thats it
[02:36] <eobanb> ThJ, what device do you need to disable
[02:37] <Sub> darkfrog, im not regged.
[02:37] <ThJ> eobanb: one of my sound cards, a SiS on-board sound card.
[02:37] <SurfnKid> 0000:02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[02:37] <darkfrog> oh
[02:37] <Moocasso> Hi guys, I have a question here that makes me feel very much like a noob.  I have a program that's frozen...in Windows I would use ctrl+alt+del to end the process, but in Linux I have no idea...anybody want to answer a (hopefully) easy question?  :)
[02:37] <ThJ> eobanb: need more details?
[02:37] <Sub> SurfnKid, yes i have an identical card
[02:37] <qwzybug> is the Ubuntu install CD also a liveCD?
[02:37] <eobanb> ThJ, and you want to disable it..?
[02:37] <SurfnKid> matter if its a diff version
[02:37] <SurfnKid> rev i mean
[02:37] <benplaut> ThJ: how far do you need it disabled? not working, or flaming pile of card?
[02:38] <darkfrog> qwzybug, yes
[02:38] <spades> SurfnKid this is on your laptop?
[02:38] <Sub> SurfnKid, use this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear but use this driver to rip from http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7759
[02:38] <ThJ> benplaut, eobanb: i want the kernel model to not load for it.
[02:38] <Sub> SurfnKid, i got all that from here http://www.perrygeo.net/wordpress/?p=55
[02:38] <rathe> is there a quicktime or mpg plugin u can get for firefox
[02:38] <SurfnKid> did you use the .inf and/or .sys or that other file that was available starts with letter a something
[02:38] <qwzybug> darkfrog, the PPC version too? I booted the one I just downloaded, and the boot menu only seemed to have install options
[02:38] <benplaut> !blacklist
[02:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about blacklist
[02:38] <Sub> Moocasso, system-admin-system monitor
[02:38] <benplaut> !bad bot
[02:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about bad bot
[02:38] <SurfnKid> spades,  yes Dell 8600
[02:38] <eobanb> ThJ, that would probably disable your sound entirely
[02:38] <benplaut> ThJ: one sec, i know how to do that
[02:38] <Moocasso> Thankyou Sub!  :)
[02:38] <SurfnKid> Sub, ok let me read about it
[02:38] <darkfrog> qwzybug, dunno, I use the x86
[02:39] <ThJ> eobanb: why would it? my PCMCIA sound card uses an entirely different kernel module.
[02:39] <RogerBacon> Moocasso to restart xorg press : ctrl + alt + backspace
[02:39] <eobanb> ThJ, oh okay.
[02:39] <Cirvin_Fox> does ALSA allow more than one program to output to the soundcard at once?
[02:39] <eobanb> Cirvin_Fox, yes
[02:39] <benplaut> ThJ: add the module name to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:39] <Sub> SurfnKid, itz easy to do, i have a broadcom pcmcia card too ,and that worked with the same guide.
[02:39] <ThJ> benplaut: that simple?
[02:39] <benplaut> usually
[02:39] <vigilante> Just tried installing nvidia drivers per the wiki: I get this message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17460 , help please?
[02:39] <qwzybug> darkfrog: hmm, okay... I'll try it again
[02:39] <SurfnKid> Sub, as wlan0 or eth1
[02:40] <Cirvin_Fox> well, i've gone and installed creox and jack
[02:40] <Cirvin_Fox> and it reports erros on the output side
[02:40] <ThJ> hope it works. my built-in speakers are LOUD when set to max. they scare the shit out of me when ubuntu boots. on Windows i had the volume turned down, until i disabled it in Device Manager, lol
[02:40] <Cirvin_Fox> along with audacity
[02:40] <Sub> SurfnKid, well itz eth2 on my system, but works 100% okay
[02:40] <SurfnKid> ok thanks guys im going to give this a try again, i took dapper out again cuz of that prob
[02:40] <nalioth> ThJ: let us watch our language please, this is not a locker room
[02:40] <eobanb> vigilante, can you pastebin your xorg.conf
[02:41] <rathe> does anyone here know
[02:41] <ThJ> what word did that react on?
[02:41] <ThJ> or is that a person not a bot
[02:41] <benplaut> ThJ: that's a person :P
[02:41] <benplaut> an op =P
[02:41] <ThJ> lol sorry
[02:41] <wyzourek> Hi
[02:41] <Seveas> ThJ, contrary to popular opinion, nalioth is an actual person
[02:41] <eobanb> ThJ, i believe it was the other four-letter word for poop
[02:41] <ThJ> haha
[02:41] <devaudio> hey - how do i install gnome-art? it doesn't show up in add/remove applications even after i check "show unsupported apps"  -- the wiki just tells me to use add/remove
[02:42] <ThJ> awe i cant say s*beep*t?
[02:42] <eobanb> devaudio, uhm, in synaptic?
[02:42] <Cirvin_Fox> What would keep something like audacity from beign able to use the sound system but still let xmms do it?
[02:42] <devaudio> not in synaptic either
[02:42] <ThJ> reminds me of those forums where you go "f*beep*k you" and it replaces with "hug you"
[02:42] <Sub> devaudio, try a "apt-cache search gnome-art"
[02:42] <eobanb> devaudio, that's because it's in universe
[02:42] <eobanb> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gnome-art&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[02:43] <nalioth> ThJ: some irc clients can do word substitutions
[02:43] <devaudio> ahh of course it's in the universe! what does that mean
[02:43] <eobanb> !universe
[02:43] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:43] <darkfrog> Sub, I have LinkSys Wireless-G WMP54GS card, you've gotten the drivers working for that?  Have a link for the drivers to use and/or tutorial?
[02:43] <lampshade> Any other guesses on how to change tabs in Gedit without using alt+# which is really uncomfortable
[02:44] <benplaut> devaudio: the mythical parallel ubuntu universe :P
[02:44] <Seveas> lampshade, with the mouse
[02:44] <benplaut> lampshade: try alt+left alt+right
[02:44] <eobanb> Seveas, haha
[02:44] <Sub> darkfrog, sorry i only know how to get Bcom cards working since thats the card i have.
[02:44] <lampshade> Seveas:  you're hilarious
[02:44] <Seveas> lampshade, and <ctrl><PgUp>
[02:44] <Seveas> (also for PgDn)
[02:44] <lampshade> see that doesn't work for me
[02:44] <SurfnKid> Sub, anyway
[02:44] <SurfnKid> Sub, this one doesnt work http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7759
[02:45] <farky> Is there any for sure way to test that the nvidia drivers are working?
[02:45] <vigilante> eobanb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17462
[02:45] <webben> i've installed much of kubuntu alongside ubuntu ... but how do i get KDE to show up as a session option in GDM?
[02:45] <lampshade> alt left right and ctrl page up and down don't.  nor do the other obvious ones like ctrl+tab
[02:45] <Seveas> lampshade, then maybe you mapped that shortcut to something else (are you using xgl perhaps)
[02:45] <devaudio> had to restart add/remove after enabling universe
[02:45] <ThJ> bye
[02:45] <Sub> SurfnKid, does for me, pops up a file download dialog for a tar.gz
[02:45] <lampshade> no,  well, I do run XGL, but Im not in an xgl session right now
[02:45] <eobanb> vigilante, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select 'nvidia' as the driver
[02:46] <Sub> farky, "glxinfo | grep rendering" - if it comes up a line saying "yes" then they are
[02:46] <Cirvin_Fox> what would keep a program from being able to access the ALSA system?
[02:46] <farky> Sub: thank you
[02:46] <benplaut> lampshade: try medit (not sure if it's in the repos)... it's much more configurable
[02:46] <eobanb> Cirvin_Fox, if it can only use OSS? :)
[02:46] <farky> Sub: yes they are working thank you
[02:46] <Cirvin_Fox> well, methinks audacity should work,
[02:46] <farky> !XGL
[02:46] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:46] <Cirvin_Fox> since ints from the repository
[02:46] <DeLmAr> Hi everyone.  I am able to get the latest Dapper (server) to install fine, but when the system reboots it fails to start.  I get errors like "iop0: device already claimed" and "iop0: DMA / IO allocation for I2O controller failed".  The system has an Adaptec 2110S Raid card.  I found something interesting at http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=29556 while googling around but this is for Suse, not Ubuntu, but I wonder
[02:47] <qwzybug> hmmm. I'm starting to suspect the ppc CD is not, in fact, a LiveCD
[02:47] <qwzybug> :'(
[02:47] <rebekka> could someone here help me?
[02:47] <eobanb> qwzybug, yes it is.
[02:47] <SurfnKid> pops up attachmeht.php
[02:47] <eobanb> rebekka, sure, just ask your question.
[02:47] <vigilante> eobanb: ok, will try, then do the script also?
[02:47] <DeLmAr> What I don't get is, if it boots fine on the install CD using the same kernel, what's wrong with it when it boots from the HDD.
[02:48] <qwzybug> eobanb: when I boot it, it shows me the command-line boot: prompt... all the options are for things like rescue, install, etc.
[02:48] <eobanb> vigilante, no, just restart x with ctrl-alt-backspace
[02:48] <eobanb> qwzybug, this is the dapper desktop CD/
[02:48] <eobanb> ?
[02:48] <freaks> i wonder where system path variable are stored on ubuntu ?
[02:48] <eobanb> because all you should have to do is hit return
[02:48] <freaks> $PATH
[02:48] <qwzybug> eobanb: not sure. I got it from the ubuntu download page
[02:49] <eobanb> qwzybug, if you have the desktop CD then just hit enter at the yaboot prompt.
[02:49] <benplaut> qwzybug: just hit enter
[02:49] <qwzybug> eobanb, benplaut: yeah, but the default image on my cd is "install", so it takes me to the big blue install menu
[02:50] <qwzybug> ohhhh wait a minute
[02:50] <benplaut> qwzybug: might be a good idea to go back to the download site and get the 'desktop' cd
[02:50] <eobanb> :)
[02:50] <qwzybug> eobanb, benplaut... hmm. it looks like I got the 'alternate' cd instead of the 'desktop' CD.
[02:50] <qwzybug> I am a stooopid
[02:50] <eobanb> qwzybug, that would be it then.
[02:50] <benplaut> na
[02:50] <freaks> i would like to add /usr/local/myprog/bin/  to the system path, how can i do that?
[02:50] <qwzybug> heh :)
[02:50] <qwzybug> way to go me
[02:50] <benplaut> qwzybug: the alternate is also very nice, but not graphical
[02:50] <benplaut> (i prefer it :P)
[02:51] <rebekka> could someone here help me?
[02:51] <eobanb> rebekka, yes, but not until you ask your question
[02:51] <freaks> and me too..
[02:51] <qwzybug> yeah, it looks like a good option for installing, but I'm not ready for partitioning etc. yet :)
[02:51] <benplaut> rebekka: you're going to have to ask your question some time ;)
[02:51] <freaks> i asked...
[02:51] <freaks> i would like to add /usr/local/myprog/bin/  to the system path, how can i do that?
[02:51] <rebekka> Ok... first of all... how do I fin dout what version of ubuntu I have???
[02:51] <freaks> someone can help?
[02:51] <eobanb> !version
[02:51] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[02:51] <benplaut> freaks: yes... PM me
[02:51] <Jemt> !tell freaks about enter
[02:52] <qwzybug> I'm looking forward to running linux on decent hardware for once. this powerbook oughta handle it much better than my 166 thinkpad running slackware and xfce :)
[02:52] <eobanb> good to hear it, qwzybug
[02:52] <Cirvin_Fox> i have installed jack and creox using apt-get, but it tells me it cant write to the ALSA device, what can be done?
[02:52] <phire> ok, my newly bootstraped ubuntu stop booting after grubs, "Ok, booting the kernel." message. Any ideas?
[02:53] <SurfnKid> Sub, is that tar file for the bcm, the same as wl_apsta?
[02:53] <rebekka> I wrong !version on the terminal but it didnt work....
[02:53] <rathe> how do u unzip bz2 files
[02:53] <rathe> ?
[02:53] <rebekka> wrote
[02:53] <snoops> qwzybug yeah! Linux on good hardware is really really nice
[02:53] <eobanb> with bunzip, rathe
[02:53] <tailsfan> I'm having some trouble with Dial-up in Ubuntu?
[02:53] <benplaut> rebekka: write what ubotu said
[02:53] <phrizer> bunzip
[02:53] <rathe> i tried bunzip filename
[02:53] <rathe> nothen happend
[02:53] <eobanb> rebekka, look at what ubotu wrote
[02:53] <qwzybug> snoops: that's what it sounds like. I have a feeling I'll probably miss OSX, though
[02:53] <Jemt> I'm running Debian Sarge on a 500 Mhz PC with 256 MB Ram - works like a charme
[02:53] <eobanb> [19:51]  	eobanb	!version
[02:53] <eobanb> [19:51]  	ubotu	To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[02:54] <rebekka>  !version: event not found
[02:54] <eobanb> rebekka, ugh, no, you type 'lsb_release -a'
[02:54] <eobanb> without quotes
[02:54] <rebekka> 4.10
[02:54] <tailsfan> Is there anyway to make networking changes permenant
[02:54] <Cirvin_Fox> i have installed jack and creox using apt-get, but it tells me it cant write to the ALSA device, what can be done?
[02:54] <phire> anyone? do you think its a grub problem, or a kernel problem?
[02:54] <rebekka> is it really really old??
[02:54] <phrizer> rathe, bunzip2
[02:54] <freaks> benplaut, you asked me to PM you, which i did.. but you don't answer ?
[02:54] <benplaut> rebekka: there's your first problem
[02:54] <eobanb> rebekka, that is from october 2004
[02:55] <benplaut> freaks: sorry... i'm new to this irc client :P
[02:55] <rebekka> ok... so what should I do???
[02:55] <benplaut> !download
[02:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[02:55] <eobanb> !upgrade
[02:55] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[02:55] <freaks> benplaut, type /query freaks
[02:55] <tailsfan> I'm really scared now :(
[02:55] <benplaut> eobanb: nooo
[02:55] <freaks> benplaut, it will suffice no need for a dcc chat
[02:55] <rathe> anyone know why when i try to install mplayer it says im not using a supported complaier
[02:56] <eobanb> benplaut, ...?
[02:56] <rathe> do i have it in the wrong directory
[02:56] <eobanb> rathe, why are you compiling mplayer yourself
[02:56] <rebekka> is there a way that I can update the system without having to burn cds or floppy disks... just fom the intenet??
[02:56] <rathe> im confused?
[02:56] <benplaut> eobanb: never upgrade from warty all the way up
[02:56] <benplaut> even in steps
[02:56] <Jemt> rebekka: apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:56] <qwzybug> alright, I'll be back... from UBUNTU
[02:56] <rathe> im new and i wanted to try to get it so i can use and watch streaming video from firefox
[02:57] <rathe> i need to install it dont it
[02:57] <qwzybug> ...in 1h42m
[02:57] <rathe> er i
[02:57] <qwzybug> byee
[02:57] <Jemt> !tell rebekka about upgrade
[02:57] <tailsfan> My Dial-up is continusly d/cing on me, can anyone help me plz?
[02:57] <rathe> eobanb is there some better way to do it?
[02:57] <tailsfan> and my settings keep on getting changed back
[02:57] <DB2> what is the package name of the i686 kernel?
[02:57] <rebekka> so I cannot upgrade to the last version of ubuntu automatic... I have to go to ubunto 5.10 and then 6???
[02:58] <eobanb> !tell rathe about apt
[02:58] <wyzoure1> :-/
[02:58] <phire> DB2: linux-image-686
[02:58] <rathe> i tried apt
[02:58] <rathe> man
[02:58] <rathe> it said it dident find anything
[02:58] <DeLmAr> Hi everyone. I'm having exactly the problem mentioned in this post http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189110 .  I need to get this sytem booting properly.  Does anyone know if there is a fix for this issue?
[02:58] <eobanb> that's because mplayer is in multiverse, rathe...
[02:58] <eobanb> !multiverse
[02:58] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:58] <DB2> phire: you sure?
[02:58] <rathe> i uncommented the line for the multiverse i thought
[02:59] <rebekka> so I cannot upgrade to the last version of ubuntu automatic... I have to go to ubunto 5.10 and then 6???
[02:59] <rathe> what do i need to do to get stuff from the multiverse?
[02:59] <eobanb> rathe, you did not, since there isnt just a line that you can un-comment
[02:59] <sponix> rebekka:  aye, what are you trying to do ?
[02:59] <sztanpet> can someone paste me a nice looking custom PS1?
[02:59] <eobanb> rathe, read the links ubotu sent
[02:59] <Shizboom> rebekka - you could just just format and install dapper
[02:59] <DB2> phire: it's linux-686
[02:59] <sztanpet> i mean the command prompts thing
[02:59] <eobanb> sztanpet, ...?
[02:59] <Sleeping_Sloth> hello - can anyone tell me why I cant chmod a mounted usb drive?
[03:00] <sztanpet> eobanb echo PS1 :D
[03:00] <phire> it is?
[03:00] <tailsfan> I NEED HELP WITH SOME THINGS!
[03:00] <cubikdice> hey guys, i'm running an Ubuntu server with ProFTPD, i was wondering what i could configure that would allow the username which is used to log in; start in / installed of ~ or /var/www as well as have root?
[03:00] <benplaut> tailsfan: we hear you
[03:00] <phire> tailsfan: don't shout
[03:00] <revilot> anyone know of place to get roms for NES, PS2, whatever
[03:01] <sponix> DB2:  if I go from linux-386 to linux-686 do I need to reinstall my nvidia drivers ?
[03:01] <DB2> any ubuntu tips for running on laptop ?
[03:01] <benplaut> tailsfan: linux doesn't really work too well with dialup, unfortunately
[03:01] <tailsfan> Sorry
[03:01] <sponix> !easyubuntu
[03:01] <benplaut> revilot: not in here
[03:01] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:01] <DB2> sponix: i dont know .. from what i remember i think it takes care of it automatically (there are special resreicted drivers)
[03:01] <revilot> benplaut: sry
[03:01] <tailsfan> How do I make my modem changes permenant and how do I remove a ethernet card from Ubuntu
[03:02] <phire> tailsfan: pull the card out
[03:02] <freaks> how do i modify system paths ? i mean system wise.. not /home/user1/.basrc
[03:02] <vigilante> eobanb: hmm, now I can't edit display properties in system settings (kubuntu)
[03:02] <Relay2> Good night, I try to instal Ubunto for first time, my computer have the PS/2 mouse port, but I use serial mouse and, in the install process the mouse dont work, someone can help me ?
[03:02] <benplaut> oh
[03:02] <eobanb> sorry, vigilante, i dont know much about kde.
[03:03] <benplaut> freaks: /etc/profile
[03:03] <brainjuice> hello anyone have a link to a gaim 1.5 deb ?  thx
[03:03] <tailsfan> Oh and the modem changes
[03:03] <tailsfan> every time I try to connect to the internet it gives me probs
[03:03] <eobanb> !tell brainjuice about apt
[03:03] <jrib> Relay2: not sure how to fix your issue, but you could instead use the alternate cd, then you won't need a mouse during the install iirc
[03:03] <rathe> im confused
[03:03] <rathe> :/
[03:03] <Sleeping_Sloth> how do I change umask with mount? its right in the fstab, but I dont want to reoot right now
[03:04] <brainjuice> that for gaim 2.0 i need 1.5 for xfire please
[03:04] <Sleeping_Sloth> *reboot
[03:04] <freaks> benplaut, no
[03:04] <eobanb> brainjuice, ..?
[03:04] <freaks> benplaut, it's not there
[03:04] <benplaut> /etc/profile isn't there?
[03:04] <jrib> !gaim2
[03:04] <ubotu> Packages for Gaim 2 beta 3 can be found via https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-April/072721.html
[03:04] <brainjuice> i need an older version to get the xfire plug in work
[03:04] <brainjuice> with gaim
[03:04] <jrib> brainjuice: gaim in dapper is 1.5, ubotu gave you a link for gaim2 beta3 deb
[03:05] <freaks> benplaut, no it's not in there
[03:05] <freaks> benplaut, no path defined there
[03:05] <benplaut> freaks: oh
[03:05] <rathe> whats the edit command
[03:05] <brainjuice> hmm everytime i use apt i get 2.0
[03:05] <Relay2> thanks jrib, but I dont have experence whit linux, I want learn, but i dont know where download the "alternate CD"
[03:05] <rathe> when im tryen to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:05] <freaks> i would like to know where global system paths are defined
[03:05] <eobanb> !alternate
[03:05] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.
[03:05] <benplaut> freaks: not sure, then... i haven't used a debian system in a while
[03:05] <freaks> benplaut, me too...
[03:06] <jrib> Relay2: ubuntu.com, the download page as usual.  In the download options, you'll see the alternate cd for your architecture
[03:06] <benplaut> heh
[03:06] <Relay2> Okey, understand, thaks to all !!!
[03:06] <Relay2> Good night
[03:06] <jrib> Relay2: good night and good luck
[03:06] <vigilante> eobanb: got it working now, right monitor selected and nvidia drivers
[03:06] <rathe> eobanb i did what that said and checked all the stuff in software properties its not working still tho
[03:07] <eobanb> vigilante, great to hear
[03:07] <eobanb> rathe, you are still trying to add multiverse to your sources.list?
[03:07] <tanlaan> i had 3 error messages on startup relating to Bonobo-activation-server and nautilus, if anyone can help here are the 3 errors http://pastebin.ca/82034
[03:07] <benplaut> rathe: did you have it grab the list from the internet (probably with apt-get update)
[03:07] <revilot> anyone have any knowledge on setting up a midi keyboard (creative prodikeys) in linux
[03:08] <rathe> it dident tell me to but doing it now
[03:08] <rathe> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:08] <rathe> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:08] <benplaut> rathe: put a 'sudo' in front of that
[03:08] <rathe> whats that mean?
[03:08] <benplaut> oh
[03:08] <benplaut> close synaptic
[03:08] <eobanb> indeed.
[03:09] <eobanb> rathe, two instances of apt cannot be run at the same time
[03:09] <BMXer> hi. i tried to install ubuntu-desktop but not foun one package...where do i change the mirror?
[03:09] <rathe> Ok i did the update
[03:09] <rathe> then i tried sudo apt-get install mplayer
[03:09] <rathe> says it dont got it
[03:10] <eobanb> rathe, pastebin your sources.list
[03:10] <rathe> how do i open it agian
[03:10] <rathe> srry i sux
[03:10] <rathe> :d
[03:10] <ThJ> i think i found a bug. i disabled the built-in SiS sound chip, but the ubuntu GUI now claims there are no sound cards (default sound card dropdown box is greyed out), but i KNOW there are drivers loaded for my PCMCIA card and they worked before
[03:10] <eobanb> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:10] <benplaut> !tell ThJ about bugzilla
[03:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about bugzilla
[03:11] <eobanb> !bug
[03:11] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[03:11] <tanlaan> i had 3 error messages on startup relating to Bonobo-activation-server and nautilus, if anyone can help here are the 3 errors http://pastebin.ca/82034
[03:11] <benplaut> oh
[03:11] <ThJ> to me it would seem that some system script is being stupid and is not counting hotplug sound devices as real sound devices.
[03:11] <SlyGuy> yo
[03:11] <eobanb> welcome, SlyGuy
[03:11] <webben> if i download some source for a debian package (i.e. the dsc, orig.tar.gz, and diff.gz files --- what command do i use to build the package into a deb?
[03:11] <revilot> i get a resolvconf failed msg on boot up, anyone know what that is and how i can rectify it?
[03:11] <eobanb> webben, what are you trying to install
[03:11] <SlyGuy> where would be place to get some assistance in getting my laptop monitor to display in its native res?
[03:11] <webben> checkinstall 1.6
[03:12] <SlyGuy> i got the NVidia drivers installed properly
[03:12] <eobanb> webben, checkinstall is already in the repository
[03:12] <eobanb> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/admin/checkinstall
[03:12] <rathe> sec trying to get pastebin to work
[03:12] <rathe> :d
[03:12] <benplaut> ok, i'm out for the afternoon... bye folks :)
[03:12] <webben> eobanb: er ... 1.6 i said
[03:12] <eobanb> webben, oh.
[03:13] <eobanb> webben, in that case you'd probably be better off building from source.
[03:13] <rathe> http://pastebin.ca/82052 eobanb
[03:13] <eobanb> thank you rathe.
[03:13] <rathe> np
[03:13] <webben> eobanb: yes ... i know i could build from source, but i want it installed as a nice deb
[03:13] <SlyGuy> hmm the forums might be a better place eh?
[03:14] <tanlaan> i had 3 error messages on startup relating to Bonobo-activation-server and nautilus, if anyone can help here are the 3 errors http://pastebin.ca/82034
[03:14] <potremc> hey, i have a problem
[03:14] <eobanb> rathe, you don't have universe enabled here
[03:14] <webben> eobanb: after all, that's why i'm bothering with checkinstall in the first place
[03:14] <rathe> i did what that link said
[03:14] <rathe> what do i need to do
[03:14] <eobanb> rathe, on lines 1 and 2, you need the word 'multiverse' at the end
[03:14] <potremc> i installed kubuntu yesterday and got the internet working fine (connected to another comp that has net via ethernet)
[03:14] <Redrose> what is sit0?
[03:14] <potremc> i ran a few updates restarted and now it doesnt work at all
[03:14] <BMXer> where do i change the apt-get mirror?
[03:14] <eobanb> rathe, actually, put them on 16 and 17 instead, for organisation's sake.
[03:14] <Redrose> and how do i turn it off
[03:14] <jrib> webben: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc   <-- that is what I use
[03:15] <eobanb> Redrose, six-to-four
[03:15] <eobanb> Redrose, it's for IPv6
[03:15] <potremc> dns is correct, gateway is correct, subnet and ip are correct
[03:15] <picket> i must be a retard, but whats the differens betwen GDM and GTK ?
[03:15] <Redrose> should i turn it off?
[03:15] <rathe> do i add the ' or just multiverse
[03:15] <eobanb> Redrose, it doesnt matter
[03:15] <eobanb> rathe, just multiverse, no quotes
[03:15] <potremc> anybody know what the problem might be?
[03:15] <Redrose> i know, but still, i'd like it out of my ifconfig
[03:15] <eobanb> at the end of lines 16 and 17
[03:15] <webben> jrib: thanks :)
[03:15] <SlyGuy> GDM is gnome
[03:15] <SlyGuy> gtk is a widget toolkit
[03:16] <picket> ah
[03:16] <phire> potremc: is the network working?
[03:16] <rathe> k sec let me update and try
[03:16] <potremc> yes
[03:16] <picket> so for ubuntu (im looking for themes) id go with GDM ?
[03:16] <potremc> just not internet
[03:16] <tanlaan> i had 3 error messages on startup relating to Bonobo-activation-server and nautilus, if anyone can help here are the 3 errors http://pastebin.ca/82034
[03:16] <Redrose> how do i shutdown sit0?
[03:16] <revilot> i get a resolvconf failed msg on boot up, anyone know what that is and how i can rectify it?
[03:16] <potremc> i can communicate with the machine i am connected to
[03:16] <SlyGuy> gdm is the app that is gnome..
[03:16] <phire> the the routing table setup propely
[03:17] <picket> hum :s
[03:17] <potremc> when i ping google.com the ip resolves but i dont get responses
[03:17] <eobanb> Redrose, i don't mean to be a jerk here, but what does it matter
[03:17] <potremc> route returns:
[03:17] <SlyGuy> all i want it to get my damn laptop out of this crap 1024x768 res
[03:17] <eobanb> !fixres
[03:17] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:17] <potremc> 192.168.0.0   *   255.255.255.0 U 0 0 eth0
[03:17] <potremc> default   192.168.0.1   0.0.0.0 UG   0 0 eth0
[03:18] <potremc> 192.168.0.1 is the router i am using as a gateway
[03:18] <eobanb> picket, a gdm theme is just a theme for the login screen, not the entire UI
[03:19] <eobanb> picket, for a window theme you probably want a metacity theme
[03:19] <potremc> i've played around constantly with the network config dialog, route, ifconfig etc
[03:19] <potremc> but i cannot get it working
[03:19] <potremc> i'm beginning to think it is a problem with kubuntu because everything is logically correct
[03:19] <Sakara> hey all I just attempted to install nVidia drivers for my desktop I now cant startx any ideas?
[03:19] <Sakara> the error is API mismatch:
[03:20] <phire> there might be a problem with the router,
[03:20] <TAtusmaRO> sorry
[03:20] <SurfnKid> 2319! we have a 2319! hehe love that part
[03:20] <tanlaan> need help with a couple of errors on startup talking about bonobo activation server http://pastebin.ca/82034
[03:20] <potremc> hmm, 3 other comps on the network all working fine
[03:20] <tanlaan> it starts to load nautilus, then gives me 3 errors, and wont go past that
[03:21] <phire> any idea what got updated?
[03:21] <deadcat> no one uses zd1211 wireless usb on ubuntu ibook?
[03:21] <picket> eobanb , is there any webpage about this ?
[03:21] <eobanb> picket, gnome-look.org
[03:22] <crashzor> bert van lent @ 100%nl join #100p.nl @ quakenet
[03:22] <picket> ah yes, im at that page right now :> what do i need to run it ?
[03:22] <rathe> canhey eobanb  is there a aptget for the mozilla plugin thing for mplayer, i dont know how, I would go about searching for that
[03:22] <crashzor> sorry for the msg here :$
[03:22] <dredhammer> hello can anyone tell me if there is a recent guide for installing compiz and xgl as a session?
[03:22] <dredhammer> on dapper
[03:22] <eobanb> rathe, sudo apt-cache search mplayer-mozilla
[03:23] <RyanTMulligan> is there a proscribed way to network install ubuntu using a disk drive boot?
[03:23] <phire> potremc: try pinging something else, something you haven't been to
[03:23] <eobanb> rathe, er i mean mozilla-mplayer
[03:23] <potremc> all network devices ping
[03:23] <rathe> tyvm
[03:23] <potremc> nothing outside the network pings
[03:23] <potremc> though dns is working fine
[03:24] <potremc> everything resolves as it should
[03:24] <potremc> no net apps (e.g. firefox) are working
[03:24] <phire> dns is often suplyed my the router
[03:24] <farky> !xgl
[03:24] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:24] <hunter> is there a vmware(player) package?
[03:25] <LjL> !info vmware-player
[03:25] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4 (dapper), package size 11563 kB, installed size 31248 kB
[03:25] <hunter> LjL:  Couldn't find package vmware-player
[03:25] <LjL> then you don't have multiverse enabled.
[03:25] <LjL> !repositories
[03:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:26] <hunter> would it be main multiverse of just multiverse?
[03:27] <tanlaan> i need help on how to kill bonobo-activation-server, and how to restart nautilus
[03:27] <rathe> can u goto multi servers on xchat
[03:27] <rathe> ?
[03:28] <hunter> yes
[03:28] <hunter> xchat -> sever list pick on and connect
[03:28] <phire> If went booting, and nothing is printed after the grub messages, does that mean the kernel failed?
[03:28] <LjL> hunter: i'm not following you. see, there are these repositories: "dapper", containing most of the stuff, "dapper-updates", containing bugfixes, "dapper-security", containing security fixes, and "dapper-backports", containing programs from the experimental ubuntu.  each of these if divided into the following components: "main", containing stuff that is mantained by the Ubuntu developers, "universe", containing stuff mantained by the Ubuntu commun
[03:28] <LjL> uff mantained by the Ubuntu devs, "multiverse", containing non-free stuff (or stuff with non-free dependencies) mantained by the Ubuntu community
[03:28] <mateX> how can i set pptp client?
[03:28] <mateX> anyone know?
[03:29] <ThJ> there we go, bug filed: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/52287
[03:29] <LjL> hunter: if i were you, i would enable multiverse in the "dapper", "dapper-security" and "dapper-updates" repos
[03:29] <rathe> hunter what do u mean
[03:30] <farky> snoops: oh i figured it out, arrow keys :)
[03:31] <farky> snoops: which plugin is the wobbly tool tips and menus?
[03:31] <sztanpet>  my laptop freezes when i logout, log in, logout and try to log in again
[03:31] <tanlaan> i need help on how to kill bonobo-activation-server, and how to restart nautilus
[03:31] <randie> just installed ubuntu on my laptop.  the touchpad works but when i plugged in my mouse it won't work. help!
[03:31] <sztanpet> anything i can do about that?
[03:31] <blind> tanlaan: killall nautilus
[03:32] <tanlaan> blind: should that fix these errors http://pastebin.ca/82034
[03:32] <blind> tanlaan: i have no clue.
[03:33] <tanlaan> blind: ok well one of the errors said to kill bonobo and restart nautilus
[03:33] <tailsfan> Is KPPP Good?
[03:33] <tanlaan> blind: and killall nautilus will do that?
[03:33] <cold> does ubuntu have mkinitrd ?
[03:33] <tailsfan> and if so, can it run in GNOME?
[03:33] <blind> killall nautilus will kill nautilus, and in my experience, the program restarts itself.
[03:34] <tanlaan> blind: ok ill try it
[03:34] <rathe> is there a command to search for a file on your system
[03:34] <sztanpet> rathe slocate
[03:34] <spades> locate file, may need to run updatedb
[03:34] <spades> or find /path -name file
[03:35] <rathe> not showing the mp3 hm
[03:35] <theeil> how does one set which x server will be started?
[03:35] <sztanpet> rathe do a sudo updatedb
[03:36] <sztanpet> rathe and try again
[03:36] <tailsfan> Dial-up can be a pain
[03:36] <sztanpet> word
[03:36] <tailsfan> I keep on getting Disconnecte
[03:36] <tailsfan> Disconnected
[03:37] <sztanpet> and i have a 2gb limit on my net connection
[03:37] <sztanpet> imagine that
[03:37] <sztanpet> not as bad though
[03:37] <rathe> how come its telling me theres a file in my home folder but i cant see the folder
[03:37] <rathe> ?
[03:37] <rathe> sorry noob here
[03:37] <rathe> lol
[03:37] <sztanpet> rathe maybe its a hidden file? :D
[03:37] <Swibuntu> howdy
[03:37] <Rug> Howdy all
[03:37] <rathe> how do i see all hidden files
[03:37] <rathe> ?
[03:37] <Rug> rathe: ls -al
[03:38] <phire> sztanpet: I've seen worse, 200mb a month, and 2c a mb over
[03:38] <Rug> rathe: or just ls -a
[03:38] <theeil> rathe: or in nautilus you can press ^h
[03:38] <sztanpet> omg :D
[03:38] <Rug> theeil: hehe damn, people use GUI too don't they?
[03:38] <jenn_d> Rug: nah, not real people. :)
[03:38] <Rug> jenn_d: har, you got it
[03:38] <rathe> ok thanks
[03:38] <rathe> i got one problem tho the file name has a grip of spaces
[03:39] <rathe> and i cant mv
[03:39] <sztanpet> so any1 have a nice PS1 they want to share with me? im thinking of the command prompts thingy echo $PS1
[03:39] <rathe> any ideas on how to move it
[03:39] <rathe> :d
[03:39] <theeil> Rug: I use whatever is in front of me, which is whatever is fastest (right tool for the rigtht job?)
[03:39] <phire> sztanpet: but i like my 700mb a day, which drops down 2 64k when it goes over
[03:39] <scholtz> hi
[03:39] <spades> rathe use \ before a space, ie:  name\ of\ band\ -\ name.mp3
[03:39] <jenn_d> rathe: try tab-completing. Type mv [first few letters] [tab] 
[03:39] <kolaje> i installed the nvidia drivers on my laptop, but the max res is 800x600.  in /etc/X11/xorg.conf it reads that it will allow higher resolutions, why wont it show up in the screen resolution window in X?
[03:39] <Rug> rathe: use " too!
[03:39] <scholtz> is the latest version dapper?
[03:39] <tailsfan> I'm also having trouble with sound
[03:39] <sztanpet> phire at least you dont pay extra
[03:39] <Rug> mv "very long name here.txt"
[03:40] <theeil> sztanpet: mine is a mess, but works fine: [${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\] \u@\h\[\033\] :\[\033[01;34m\] \w\[\033\] ] \$
, you must edit your xorg.conf file. go to the bottom, add the resolutions you want, save and then restart X
[03:40] <Rug> scholtz: the latest 'production' version yes.  The bleeding edge is edgy eft
[03:40] <scholtz> can i upgrade this i386 server breezy to amd64 dapper?
[03:40] <Sakara> kolaje: I just attempted to install the nvidia drivers too and now I have no working xserver
[03:40] <Sakara> ><
[03:40] <Rug> scholtz: yupp
[03:41] <rathe> k i guess im stupid on this part lol
[03:41] <tailsfan> Depends if it has the right requirements
[03:41] <scholtz> Rug: how?
[03:41] <kolaje> sakora: are you on a laptop?
[03:41] <Rug> scholtz: one step at a time.
[03:41] <kolaje> sakora: i found a website that taught me to edit the config file for certain laptops to work
[03:41] <Rug> scholtz: first you need to update your sources.list, then apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:41] <kolaje> sakora; that's what happened to me originally as well, with my laptop
[03:41] <techmad> Sakora: have you checked your xorg.conf?
[03:41] <Rug> scholtz: THEN update your kernel manually.
[03:42] <sztanpet> theeil thanks, it's nice
[03:42] <Sakara> techmad: I have mate
[03:42] <Sakara> techmad: I have read the log files I dont know what to do
[03:42] <techmad> Sakara: which driver does it say it is using?
[03:42] <Sakara> ssh'n in now
[03:42] <tailsfan> does ALSA support ESS Soundcards?
[03:43] <sid> How can I install xvidcap with ffmpeg encoding support on Ubuntu dapper?
[03:43] <Rug> Anybody using conky & fluxbox?
[03:43] <phire> tailsfan: like a really old one?
[03:44] <sid> I want to make Ubuntu video guides with xvidcap, and have it be mpeg; istanbul boggs my system down too much. And I am not able to use it.
[03:44] <techmad> Rug: no but you shouldnt really have a problem
[03:44] <Sakara> techmad: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
[03:44] <Rug> techmad: I am using it, I just wanted to compare notes.
[03:44] <Sakara> thats from my xconf.0.log
[03:44] <tailsfan> like a ESS audiodrive
[03:44] <techmad> Rug: ahh ok :)
[03:45] <Sakara> this is still a breezy badger machine though has dapper drake had an updated kernel?
[03:45] <ElBrujo> algien usa e17???
[03:45] <techmad> Sakara check your pm
[03:45] <Sakara> pm?
[03:45] <techmad> Private message
[03:46] <Sakara> I havnt got any pm's
[03:46] <techmad> try to pm me
[03:46] <phire> tailsfan: you could try alsa-config
[03:46] <techmad> :)
[03:46] <Sakara> just tried then
[03:46] <techmad> hmmm
[03:47] <Sakara> techmad: I think this client diaf
[03:47] <Sakara> opening up another irc cleitn
[03:47] <techmad> k
[03:47] <tailsfan> command not found
[03:49] <Sakunix> techmad: you get my pm
[03:49] <SurfnKid> whatss the command to bring up the upgrade manager
[03:49] <SurfnKid> not the synaptic
[03:49] <tailsfan> phire, it says command not found
[03:50] <techmad> Sakunix: maybe its me
[03:50] <techmad> brb
[03:50] <Sakunix> kk
[03:50] <spades> SurfnKid gksudo update-manager
[03:50] <phire> sorry alsaconf, if its installed
[03:50] <SurfnKid> thx
[03:50] <tailsfan> command not found
[03:50] <techmad> Sakara: i think its the irc server
[03:50] <Sakunix> ok np
[03:51] <techmad> Sakara cause you have to register to send a pm
[03:51] <Sakunix> ahhh
[03:51] <techmad> do you have aim?
[03:51] <Sakunix> ic
[03:51] <Sakunix> I do not unfortuantly
[03:51] <Sakunix> can you create a channel on this server
[03:51] <cold> can someone helo me set up /etc/mkinitrd ?
[03:51] <Sakunix> join #techmad
[03:51] <kolaje> is there an option for starting X that sets the resolution it starts with?
[03:51] <test> anyone know of any config errors with bittorrent?
[03:52] <MrZaius> is there a way to run ubuntu's installer from inside of a preexisting install?
[03:52] <Tom7e> hi.  what is the difference between tar.gz and tar.bz2 files?
[03:52] <MrZaius> I've got an idle partition on a gentoo box that I want to install ubuntu on
[03:52] <MrZaius> but I can't afford any downtime
[03:52] <MrZaius> gotta just install ubuntu and chroot into it for a while
[03:52] <phire> MrZaius, you have to use debootstrap
[03:52] <MrZaius> phire: how's that done?
[03:53] <tailsfan> Gaim sometimes closes on me
[03:54] <phire> !debootstrap
[03:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about debootstrap
[03:55] <scholtz> ok i did a dist-upgrade dapper....how do i turn it into amd64?
[03:55] <phire> first you install debootstrap, you then use it to install a base ubuntu system
[03:56] <phire> you then chroot into it, and configure it, and istall a kernel
[03:56] <MrZaius> thank god
[03:56] <phire> then you should be able to boot into it
[03:56] <scholtz> is it easy to update dapper 386 to amd64?
[03:56] <MrZaius> you just saved me from having to stay in my server closet till 10:30pm
[03:56] <phire> http://ftp.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/apcs04.html
[03:57] <narfmaster> scholtz, i think you need to at least install a different kernel
[03:57] <phire> but change breezy to dapper
[03:57] <phire> and base-config nolonger works
[03:57] <FunkyDiscoMan> LO - easy question if anyone wants to take it up. How do you stop the gnome menu collapsing to hide some items? been pissing me off for a while
[03:57] <Ares> How do I find out everything about my computer?
[03:58] <Ares> In Dapper Drake.
[03:58] <techmad> I dont know if some of you know
[03:58] <Ares> Let me clarify, all hardware properties, etc.
[03:58] <narfmaster> Ares, install sysinfo
[03:58] <techmad> but aim/aol seems to be banning people using a client other than their own
[03:58] <F7> i'm trying to install ubuntu desktop 6.06 but the installation dialog window is larger than 640x480 while i can't get any higher resolution. Anyone has a solution to this?
[03:58] <Ares> Thank you.
[03:58] <FunkyDiscoMan> F7 yes
[03:59] <Ares> !info sysinfo
[03:59] <ubotu> sysinfo: Simple GTK program that shows some UNIX/Linux system information. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.6.1-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 93 kB, installed size 508 kB
[03:59] <F7> hi FunkyDiscoMan
[03:59] <scholtz> narfmaster: not sure how to do that, cant find an amd kernel
[03:59] <FunkyDiscoMan> f7 hold alt and drag window about then set up after install
[03:59] <FunkyDiscoMan> simple as that
[03:59] <F7> ok thanks FunkyDiscoMan! :)
[03:59] <FunkyDiscoMan> :)
[03:59] <Tom7e> hi.  what is the difference between tar.gz and tar.bz2 files?
[03:59] <reiki> ok... dumb question time. I burned the 6.06 alternative image to CD. Is it bootable? I'm about to tear down this machine and want to make sure I have a bootable CD.
[04:00] <scholtz> how do i install the amd kernel from dapper i386
[04:00] <FunkyDiscoMan> Tom7e higher compresssion algorithm used in bz2
[04:00] <MrZaius> why?
[04:00] <MrZaius> hmm... wrong window
[04:00] <msarmet> Hello!
[04:00] <Ares> Ok, how do I add the repository universe into my apt-get or whatever, config?
[04:00] <Tom7e> FunkyDiscoMan:  why do source packages release both?
[04:01] <racefire_> Hey guys, I have a problem with ZSNES.
[04:01] <theeil> reiki: yes, it really should be
[04:01] <farky> anyone know why xchat, by default, starts in workspace 2?
[04:01] <FunkyDiscoMan> incase some people dont have bz2 installed , try installing it without ;)
[04:01] <racefire_> On my windows partition, I have ROMS and snapshots,
[04:01] <sid> How can I install xvidcap with ffmpeg encoding support on Ubuntu dapper? I want to make Ubuntu video guides with xvidcap, and have it be mpeg; istanbul boggs my system down too much. And I am not able to use it. But this xvidcap seems to be a bitch to install; ./configure shows me I have all the things necessary. I installed a crapload a -dev packages. But it won't compile --> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/uOwMjy95.html
[04:01] <racefire_> for snes9x
[04:01] <reiki> theeil: ok thanks... worst case is I'll have to pull the hard drive and put it back into this box to bug you with more questions :)
[04:01] <sid> I don't want to use istanbul; as it sucks up too much cpu for the demos I want to do; and it lags the shit out of my machine. xvidcap would be much better, if I could get it installed.
[04:01] <racefire_> And I want to try to get those working under ZSNES Linux.
[04:02] <racefire_> I know I must be interrupting something, but I wanted to ask.
[04:02] <Tom7e> does the ubuntu kernel have hotplug?
[04:02] <tailsfan> racefire_ www.emulationrealm.net try finding another emu
[04:02] <farky> Tom7e: yes
[04:02] <Tom7e> thanks
[04:02] <msarmet> I'm having problems to install my wireless driver (IPN2220- LanExpress) in my notebook. I find the driver, but I got a "Illegal driver" message... can anyone help me?
[04:03] <theeil> reiki: if you have the latest version, it should also be a fully functional live cd
[04:03] <hunter> what kernel version is in the current ubuntu?
[04:03] <farky> msarmet: are you using ndiswrapper?
[04:03] <reiki> theeil: I didn't download the desktop CD. I downloaded the alternative one.
[04:03] <msarmet> Yes, I'm using ndiswrapper on Ubuntu 5.10
[04:04] <farky> msarmet: is the file you are using an .inf file?
[04:04] <theeil> reiki: ah, i have that for xubuntu but didn't know they have them for the main distro
[04:04] <msarmet> farky: Yes - neti2220.inf
[04:04] <farky> !xmms
[04:04] <SurfnKid> taco wrapper
[04:04] <ubotu> Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC - also see !codecs
[04:04] <rathe> this might sound stupid but
[04:04] <hunter> what kernel version is in the current ubuntu?
[04:04] <rathe> is it possible for linux to slow down your internet connection
[04:05] <rathe> i feel like my internet is a bit slower download sense i switched
[04:05] <farky> msarmet: then maybe wrong driver and/or wrong driver for device
[04:05] <FunkyDiscoMan> rathe, how slow
[04:05] <racefire_> Thank you, tailsfan. I'll check.
[04:05] <FunkyDiscoMan> i had problems with  ipv6 dns
[04:05] <tailsfan> No Prob :)
[04:06] <msarmet> farky: do you have any idea where I can find it? I tried on Acer homepage and sereval forum pages, but I coudn't find it...
[04:06] <debian_> does anyone know if there's a command line equivalent for switching from one workspace to another
[04:06] <farky> msarmet: hold on ill find something
[04:06] <rathe> idk just seems slower
[04:06] <raptros-v76> Seveas: are you there?
[04:06] <msarmet> farky: thanks!!! I'm using one Acer TravelMate 2350
[04:07] <scholtz> anyone know how i cant install an amd64 kernel? is there a source?
[04:07] <rathe> like i was getting 130kbs now its like 40ish
[04:07] <rathe> :d
[04:07] <FunkyDiscoMan> :(
[04:07] <tailsfan> Who uses Dapper Drake in here
[04:07] <FunkyDiscoMan> me41
[04:07] <SurfnKid> used to
[04:07] <sid> debian_: chvt
[04:07] <SurfnKid> going to soon
[04:07] <phire> me
[04:07] <tailsfan> I'm trying to get a good software recemondation
[04:08] <FunkyDiscoMan> 4 what ?
[04:08] <tailsfan> I'm trying to get a good Download Manager
[04:08] <debian_> sid: is that for tty's or virtual desktops?
[04:08] <racefire_> I know FreshDownload is good for Windows, I don't know if there is a Windows version.
[04:08] <racefire_> Returning the favor! :)
[04:08] <farky> msarmet: try this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179270&highlight=IPN2220
[04:08] <phire> wget works
[04:09] <tailsfan> I did that already
[04:09] <tailsfan> and what about Freeedownloader
[04:09] <msarmet> farky: ok. I'll try. Thanks a lot.
[04:09] <sid> debian_: man chvt
[04:09] <FunkyDiscoMan> tailsfan theres a firefox extension, never used it tho
[04:10] <narfmaster> scholtz, you might have to do a clean install with an amd64 disc
[04:10] <narfmaster> can't seem to find other sources
[04:10] <tailsfan> What extension?
[04:10] <theeil> tailsfan: i use freeloader for bittorrent, but it also works for http, and there is always wget ;)
[04:10] <tailsfan> DownThemAll!
[04:11] <racefire_> Tails? The only reason I don't already use SNES9x Linux (now in 1.5) is that I can't get the frontends working....
[04:11] <tailsfan> Is it installed already?
[04:11] <scholtz> narfmaster: ok
[04:11] <J_P> hi all
[04:11] <scholtz> does cdrecord work for dvds?
[04:11] <FunkyDiscoMan> How do you stop the gnome menu collapsing to hide some items? its really pissing me off now
[04:11] <tailsfan> also does anyone use KPPP?
[04:12] <narfmaster> FunkyDiscoMan, huh? when did that start?
[04:12] <FunkyDiscoMan> im using dapper
[04:12] <Gh3cko> heya can anyone plz help me i just instaled ubnutu... and i got someprobs i think i screwed up with the partition format ..
[04:12] <FunkyDiscoMan> like those bloody ms ones, progress!
[04:12] <tailsfan> KPPP, as in the KDE Dial-up program
[04:12] <racefire_> snes9x? I can download an archive from their main mirror.
[04:12] <FunkyDiscoMan> scholtz try k3b
[04:12] <narfmaster> FunkyDiscoMan, i have yet to have the pleasure of seeing that happen
[04:12] <tailsfan> I think you can
[04:13] <scholtz> FunkyDiscoMan: i just want cmdline, i have server install
[04:13] <tailsfan> I just got Gens _racefire
[04:13] <rathe> whats the cmd to show hard drive space stats etc
[04:13] <spades> df -h
[04:13] <Gh3cko> can anyone hlp?
[04:13] <FunkyDiscoMan> cdrdao
[04:13] <racefire_> Gens.... Isn't that Genesis?
[04:13] <FunkyDiscoMan> scholtz cdrdao
[04:13] <a5an0> whats up gh3cho?
[04:13] <Gh3cko> rly dunno
[04:14] <Gh3cko> instaled ubuntu
[04:14] <narfmaster> Gh3cko, try using gparted on it
[04:14] <Gh3cko> and i cand make folders and stuff
[04:14] <Gh3cko> only on desktop
[04:14] <tailsfan> Yes
[04:14] <a5an0> ok....?
[04:14] <racefire_> Then how is it relevant? Sorry if I'm being and idiot....
[04:14] <Gh3cko> i think i screwed up with the root partition format
[04:14] <tailsfan> Fusion is not listed
[04:14] <scholtz> FunkyDiscoMan: it looks like cdrecord does it
[04:14] <FunkyDiscoMan> cool
[04:14] <Gh3cko> i picked at install the first one..
[04:15] <Gh3cko> smthing 3:P didnt remember it .. v newb with linux:D
[04:15] <tailsfan> I <3 Dapper Drake!
[04:15] <Sakunix> has 6.06 for i386 seen a new kernel since 5.10
[04:15] <tailsfan> except for modem reasons
[04:16] <narfmaster> Sakunix, since 5.10?
[04:16] <Sakunix> since breezy
[04:16] <narfmaster> Sakunix, several
[04:16] <Sakunix> what kernel version is shipped with dapper?
[04:16] <narfmaster> 2.6.15
[04:16] <Sakunix> ok compiled with gcc4
[04:17] <Sakunix> ??
[04:17] <a5an0> hey, does anyone have the default fstab line for mounting a windows drive (i.e., install dapper with a windows partition, dapper makes a line in /etc/fstab for the win drive)?
[04:17] <racefire_> How do I get SNES9x working in Ubuntu Dapper?
[04:18] <tailsfan> Have you read the instructions?
[04:18] <Gh3cko> does extended 3 tipe of format for the root partition work?
[04:18] <scholtz> how do i see info on my dvd writer?
[04:18] <racefire_> I don't quite know where they are. Sorry. :-(
[04:18] <racefire_> For SNES, that is.
[04:19] <linuxlearner> hello all
[04:19] <rathe> whats the screen shot command
[04:19] <rathe> ?
[04:19] <FunkyDiscoMan> a5an0, "/dev/sdb5       /media/sdb5     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1"
[04:19] <spades> rathe import i think
[04:19] <a5an0> Gh3cho: yes, ext3 is fine for /
[04:19] <FunkyDiscoMan> a5an0 need a hand setting something up?
[04:19] <a5an0> thanks FunkyDiscoMan!
[04:19] <linopil> hello linuxlearner
[04:20] <racefire_> hello linuxlearner
[04:20] <FunkyDiscoMan> a5an0first is ur device then second mount point
[04:20] <racefire_> I guess I'm one too
[04:20] <linuxlearner> help, i'm trying to install the macos-x aqau theme
[04:20] <FunkyDiscoMan> a5an0 first is ur device then second mount point
[04:20] <tailsfan> by double-clicking the file, it should load up the archive manager and look for a INSTALL or README file
[04:20] <b166er> !ipod
[04:20] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[04:20] <racefire_> Oh. Right.
[04:20] <racefire_> bbl?
[04:20] <Gh3cko> a5an0 .. then why cant i put files on /
[04:20] <linuxlearner> trying to find the themes folder to insert the unzipped files into
[04:20] <linopil> how is linux on macS ?
[04:21] <Patrick_> hi all, how do you assign your own IP address to a ubuntu computer for a wireless network?
[04:21] <linopil> AND WHY MANUALLY ?
[04:21] <FunkyDiscoMan> a5an0 - this is fat32 isnt it - didnt even think
[04:21] <philc_> is there a gui for viewing svn histories in windows?
[04:21] <dts> how do i mount something through ssh/sftp?
[04:21] <dts> as if it was local
[04:22] <a5an0> Funky: no it isnt, I just modified my fstab without backing it up (oops, forgot), and wanted to have a backup for down the line
[04:22] <tailsfan> that help _racefire?
[04:22] <linuxlearner> I extracted the .tar to my desktop but i do not understand where to put them unless i was suppose to direct it there from the extraction manager?
[04:22] <a5an0> my new line is  /dev/sda1	/media/sda1	ntfs-fuse	auto,gid=1001,umask=0002	0	0
[04:23] <FunkyDiscoMan> a5an0 -  ntfs? "/dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1"
[04:23] <narfmaster> linuxlearner, move the files to ~/.themes
[04:23] <Patrick_> hi all, how do you assign your own IP address to a ubuntu computer for a wireless network?
[04:23] <linuxlearner> how
[04:23] <Gh3cko> 5an0 .. then why cant i put files on /  i cant do anything on /
[04:23] <narfmaster> linuxlearner, you'll need to Show Hidden files
[04:23] <spades> Patrick_ edit your /etc/network/interfaces file and set a static ip
[04:23] <_nano_> hi, is there an app that converts proprietory video formats like avi,mpg, wmv etc. to open source ones like ogg?
[04:23] <a5an0> gh3cho, can you write to ur $HOME?
[04:23] <Gh3cko> like?:D
[04:24] <Gh3cko> i just instaled ubuntu 1 hr ao
[04:24] <Gh3cko> ago
[04:24] <tailsfan> Can GStreamer 0.10 and 0.8 be installed at the same time
[04:24] <linuxlearner> k, i'll try it TY
[04:24] <a5an0> thanks again Discoman
[04:25] <a5an0> btw, the line I posted will allow for ntfs writing if you have FUSE
[04:25] <linopil> Gh3cko: there is a good reason
[04:25] <Gh3cko> huh?
[04:25] <FunkyDiscoMan> Gh3cko - would you like a free linux ref manual - "http://www.freetechbooks.com/about97.html"
[04:25] <Gh3cko> ty
[04:26] <linopil> while learning new system you better be protected even from your own wrong moves
[04:26] <Gh3cko> linopil
[04:26] <linopil> sounds ok?
[04:26] <Gh3cko> ye but i dlded a photo on my pc.. and cant put it anywhere only on desktop
[04:27] <racefire_> there is no install file, but there is a readme
[04:27] <FunkyDiscoMan> its because you dont have permission to
[04:27] <a5an0> you probably cant write to / ecause u arnt root
[04:27] <racefire_> I guess I'll read it more carefully this time.
[04:27] <Gh3cko> i'm the only one on this pc.....
[04:27] <linopil> Gh3cko: also on tmp - temp folder
[04:27] <tailsfan> then read that, that is all I can say
[04:28] <racefire_> Thanks.
[04:28] <camolion> my X server exploded :(
[04:28] <rathe> is there games in apt get
[04:28] <rathe> ?
[04:28] <linopil> Gh3cko: you are the only one still your system has to be protected
[04:28] <narfmaster> rathe, yes
[04:28] <linopil> you are on the Net now remember
[04:28] <spades> Gh3cko you should be able to put it in your home folder, its best to keep / as is
[04:28] <rathe> whats the search command
[04:29] <Gh3cko> hmmz
[04:29] <Gh3cko> and wheres the home folder:P
[04:29] <narfmaster> rathe, just use Synaptic
[04:29] <Yan> how do u boot ubuntu in shell only no graphic interface ?
[04:29] <spades> Gh3cko ~  or /home/user
[04:29] <linopil> learn from links given l8r learn to carefully  <<< sudo >> commands
[04:29] <a5an0> home folder is usualy in /home/[user] 
[04:29] <camolion> i updated to dapper and now when X loads, it gives me (EE) Failed to load module "kbd" and "mouse" errors :( (module does not exist)
[04:29] <a5an0> if you type `cd`
[04:29] <a5an0> youll go there
[04:29] <a5an0> or `cd ~/`
[04:29] <Gh3cko> ye .. found it D
[04:29] <linopil> in the beginning home dir is enough
[04:30] <a5an0> and then you can do `mkdir [name] ` to make new folders
[04:30] <farky> What's the best mp3 player you think for ubuntu?
[04:30] <camolion> amaroK
[04:30] <narfmaster> xmms
[04:30] <farky> i want something really simple, no bells and whistles
[04:30] <narfmaster> nothing simpler than xmms
[04:30] <job> xmms
[04:30] <johnnyX> can someone tell me why firefox will tell me certain sites are forbidden randomly?
[04:30] <farky> ok
[04:31] <farky> thanks you
[04:31] <johnnyX> like dogpile and google
[04:31] <Gh3cko> lino and that home dir .... if i put it there it takes space from ? right?
[04:31] <FunkyDiscoMan> Gh3cko - i posted a link for you earlier, if you want to use *nix then you should do a bit of reading
[04:31] <Gh3cko> or from swap?
[04:31] <linopil> videolan is best for having movie and sound formats ready
[04:31] <job> look at your preferences
[04:31] <linopil> www.videolan.org aka vlc
[04:31] <Nitefall> I just set up a dual boot with xp home/ubuntu. and I'm wondering since ubuntu didn't ask where to install grub, where it is.
[04:31] <a5an0> takes space from /
[04:31] <johnnyX> and it will take me to different sites then what i typed in the url
[04:31] <narfmaster> johnnyX, you may have to chat with your admin if you are at work
[04:32] <FunkyDiscoMan> Nitefall MBR
[04:32] <johnnyX> i'm not
[04:32] <Gh3cko> ye then its ok....
[04:32] <camolion> any command to generate a xorg.conf file? when i upgraded, mine exploded :(
[04:32] <spades> Yan you can init 1 to go into single user mode, if you want this evertime, disabling g/k/xdm from startup would boot you into a console login
[04:32] <Nitefall> does it preserve the windows bootloader?
[04:32] <Gh3cko> ty guys
[04:32] <FunkyDiscoMan> no
[04:32] <Gh3cko> ahh btw can i play a game from the nfts partition on linux with wine?
[04:32] <Nitefall> bah, if I delete the ubuntu partitions at any time then I'll have to reformat and install xp again, then
[04:33] <johnnyX> i have google set as my homepage and it will tell me that its forbidden
[04:33] <Gh3cko> or i have to instal it on / to...
[04:33] <Yan> spades is there any ways to just kill the interface to work in shell? i tried ctrl-alt-backspace but it keeps loading back ;)
[04:33] <Nitefall> unless there's a way to avoid that
[04:33] <FunkyDiscoMan> camolion hold ill get you cmd
[04:33] <johnnyX> or i'll try to go to wikipedia and it takes me to bbc news
[04:33] <camolion> thanks
[04:33] <johnnyX> or it just wont load at all
[04:33] <johnnyX> things like that
[04:33] <johnnyX> i've reinstalled it twice
[04:33] <spades> Yan just do an /etc/init.d/gdm stop or ctrl+alt+f1 to get into virtual terminal
[04:33] <Yan> thx u :)
[04:33] <FunkyDiscoMan> camolion - sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:34] <johnnyX> does anyone know how to fix it?
[04:34] <camolion> same error ><
[04:34] <FunkyDiscoMan> NItefall - there is
[04:34] <ardchoille> Does anyone know of a recipe or cooking management app for gnome?
[04:35] <camolion> dapper is the most current version right? that is what i changed the sources list to before update,upgrade
[04:35] <FunkyDiscoMan> use ur xp cd to restore mbr
[04:35] <dli> johnnyX, http://www.wikiepedia.org
[04:35] <tailsfan> Test
[04:35] <johnnyX> what about it dli
[04:35] <Nitefall> I didn't get an xp cd though, just a restore disc that formats completely and reinstalls xp
[04:35] <narfmaster> johnnyX, it sounds like your ISP's DNS is messed up
[04:35] <tailsfan> en.wikipedia.org actually
[04:35] <jupiter_> boa noite
[04:35] <dli> johnnyX, you mentioned going to wikipedia?
[04:35] <johnnyX> its not my isp
[04:35] <Nitefall> I hate Gatway Computers
[04:36] <Nitefall> -_-
[04:36] <johnnyX> thats not what i asked dli
[04:36] <dli> johnnyX, where are you? which country?
[04:36] <xnull-> just installed mysqld(how do I let other ppl. to connect? from outside)? shoud I enable something ? thanks
[04:36] <johnnyX> u.s
[04:36] <dli> johnnyX, okay then, I know wikipedia is blocked by China
[04:36] <narfmaster> johnnyX, try slashdot.org
[04:37] <FunkyDiscoMan> K you could still use grub to boot windows from ntfs partition prob a pain in the ass to setup
[04:37] <farky> Is there a way to have xmms not show up in the windows list?
[04:37] <dli> johnnyX, since you are in u.s., it's not blocked, try IP: http://207.142.131.248
[04:37] <maurycy> anyone know how to find a thinkpad product number, when the label is removed?
[04:37] <dli> johnnyX, that's one IP of www.wikipedia.org
[04:38] <maurycy> anyone know how to find a thinkpad product number, when the label is removed?
[04:38] <johnnyX> i dont need to go to wikipedia i just mentioned that when i try to go to sites it will take me to other ones i was just using it as a for instance
[04:38] <Nitefall> hm
[04:38] <camolion> when i start X server, it gives me a cant find kbd and mouse error with the default xorg.conf file
[04:38] <johnnyX> and that it will tell me google and dogpile are forbidden
[04:38] <FunkyDiscoMan> Nitefall - borrow someones cd, start setup del unix partitions then quit install, it will reset to win bootloader. but dont leave us
[04:39] <tailsfan> Is there another program like PeerGuardian for Linux?
[04:39] <dli> johnnyX, what I was trying to help is to locate the problem
[04:39] <Nitefall> I switched to Ubuntu because SuSE linux was horrible
[04:39] <Nitefall> I don't have any intention of deleting Ubuntu right now
[04:39] <FunkyDiscoMan> good good
[04:39] <Nitefall> would an old cd, say a windows 98 work?
[04:39] <FunkyDiscoMan> na
[04:40] <johnnyX> i can get to wikipedia fine
[04:40] <johnnyX> but sometimes it does this run around thing
[04:40] <firebird619> I am trying to set up dial-up Internet on Dapper. I have compiled my modem drivers and it is autodetected in Networking, and I can connect to the Internet, but I cannot go to any Web sites, I get the Server Not Found page in Firefox. Any suggestions as to what is wrong?
[04:40] <Phoul> Is there anyway to revert back to your original xmodmap?
[04:40] <johnnyX> not just wikipedia all sites
[04:40] <tailsfan> alsa-project gives me probs
[04:40] <dli> firebird619, no DNS?
[04:41] <dli> firebird619, can you go to web by IP?
[04:41] <firebird619> dli: No
[04:41] <dli> firebird619, can you ping?
[04:41] <FunkyDiscoMan> JohnnyX - sounds like prob with dns servers in alias file
[04:41] <rathe> i just installed somethen from synaptic but it dident tell me where the game went
[04:41] <rathe> its suppose to be a 2d rpg
[04:41] <dli> firebird619, to test, sudo route -n
[04:42] <dli> firebird619, do you have a reasonable route table?
[04:42] <delmar> Hi everyone. I'm having some major issues getting a system to boot up.  Dapper alternative CD - server install ...  Installs fine, but when it reboots I'm getting stuff like .. IOP0: device already claimed, IOP0: DMA/IO allocation for I2O controller failed.  ALERT: /dev/i2o/hda1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell.  The same issues reported here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183870 and here http://www.ubuntuforums.or
[04:42] <delmar> g/showthread.php?t=189110 .  The system has an Adaptec 2110S raid card.   The install CD seems to use the same kernel as the target install, so surely this is a userspace/Dapper issue rather than kernel but who knows... Does anyone have any ideas or things I could look at or try to get this thing to work?
[04:42] <Nitefall> bleh
[04:42] <firebird619> dli, no, I can't do anything, but yet I know I am connected because when I pick up the phone while connected I hear the handshake. Also, I have the Modem and Network Monitors on the panel and the Network Monitor becomes active, but the Modem Monitor shows Not Connected.
[04:42] <Nitefall> gaim doesn't handle IRC well
[04:43] <FunkyDiscoMan> Nitefall - what irc client u using?
[04:43] <Nitefall> I'm IRCing with Gaim
[04:43] <FunkyDiscoMan> try Xchat
[04:43] <dli> delmar, a n00b way, boot livecd (which drives up your raid), and do lsmod there, make the module list, and make sure they are in your /etc/modules
[04:43] <tailsfan> Yeah, that is what I'm using right now
[04:44] <Nitefall> I downloaded the xchat rpm and ubuntu said "package type not supported"
[04:44] <delmar> dli, so you are thinking its a missing module?
[04:44] <dli> firebird619, stop pppd, try wvdial
[04:44] <Nitefall> on xchat's site it appears it only supports fedora and windows
[04:44] <dli> delmar, very much likely
[04:44] <FunkyDiscoMan> Nitefall - rpm is for redhat based systems
[04:44] <FunkyDiscoMan> Nitefall - use apt-get
[04:44] <firebird619> dli: I can't tried sudo route -n yet because I am on the Internet on another computer right now. I tried wvdial, it always says connected and then it says carrier signal lost.
[04:45] <delmar> dli, perhaps a module loading ahead of a needed one... hence .. device already claimed? thats the "jist" I am getting from some forums stuff
[04:45] <dli> firebird619, did you try StupidMode with wvdial? it works for many
[04:45] <delmar> dli, but im not familiar with all this udev crap to know what I'm supposed to add/change
[04:45] <distant_> i have a slave hdd i want to install a separate OS on inorder to set it up for an alternative box. do i format it as ext2 or ext3?
[04:45] <firebird619> dli: how do I get to StupidMode with wvdial
[04:45] <narfmaster> distant_, ext3
[04:46] <distant_> thx
[04:46] <Trae> hmmm
[04:46] <dli> delmar, I would build the kernel myself, in livecd, do lsmod, and build the kernel based on the list
[04:46] <dli> firebird619, in your /etc/wvdial.conf
[04:46] <Trae> Buffer I/O error on device hda5 logical block
[04:46] <delmar> dli, i could do I guess
[04:46] <dli> Trae, bad sign, time to backup
[04:47] <Trae> dli, I'm running the live cd
[04:47] <Trae> heh
[04:47] <Trae> it's trying to boot
[04:47] <firebird619> dli: Do you mean entering the phone, user name, password etc. or is there something else I add to that file to get to StupidMode?
[04:47] <dli> delmar, also get the newest kernel from kernel.org, if your controller is a new one
[04:47] <Trae> hmm
[04:47] <delmar> dli, hell no. its ancient.
[04:48] <dli> firebird619, no, you first try wvdialconf to generate a wvdial.conf, then, you edit it, you can " man wvdial.conf "
[04:48] <delmar> dli, but im seeing forum posts about a few people with Adaptec cards having this issue.. but nothing that applied to Dapper to fix the problem.. but it has given me a few ideas.
[04:48] <dli> delmar, then, just build your kernel
[04:48] <delmar> dli, i think its a module load issue... order.. or lacking module as you say.
[04:48] <dli> delmar, make sure you build in the drivers
[04:48] <firebird619> dli: wvdialconf did not generate one, it couldn't find the modem. I edited wvdial.conf myself and entered the info myself.
[04:49] <delmar> di, im quite familiar with building kernels. i might give that a try after I play with other things.
[04:49] <dli> firebird619, you can make a link to /dev/modem
[04:49] <tailsfan> How do you use wvdial
[04:49] <dli> tailsfan, sudo wvdialconf
[04:50] <xnull-> just installed mysqld(how do I let other ppl. to connect? from outside)? shoud I enable something ?
[04:50] <tailsfan> thanks
[04:50] <tailsfan> but I installing something with terminal right now
[04:50] <dli> tailsfan, then, you edit the file /etc/wvdial.conf to specify username, passwd, phone number
[04:50] <firebird619> dli: I have already done that, it was part of the steps of installing the modem. It is an Intel 537EP Internal Modem. It worked great on Breezy, no problems at all.
[04:50] <tailsfan> It's called kdelibs4c2a
[04:50] <distant_> is there any way to install another os on the separate hdd?
[04:51] <dli> firebird619, I remember wvdial seeks /dev/modem
[04:51] <delmar> dli, i want to play with whatever the tidy way is.. to modify the load order or loading of modules....
[04:51] <delmar> dli, so whats all this udev crap about.. lol
[04:51] <dli> delmar, build the kernel is more elegant
[04:52] <delmar> dli, i used to think this way but u are wrong
[04:52] <delmar> dli, for this server.. perhaps yes
[04:52] <firebird619> dli: It didn't find the modem though, but System => Administration => Networking autodetected the modem after I compiled and installed the drivers.
[04:52] <tailsfan> then do that command again dli?
[04:52] <delmar> dli, but i don't build kernels like that anymore. far easier to use the packaged kernels for ubuntu
[04:52] <dli> tailsfan, for what?
[04:52] <Nitefall> how do I access bootloader settings in Ubuntu?
[04:53] <dli> Nitefall, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:53] <dli> Nitefall, mostly, you needs only, " sudo update-grub "
[04:53] <tailsfan> for after you configure wvdial?
[04:54] <dli> tailsfan, sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf ; vi /etc/wvdial.conf
[04:54] <rathe> someone play atlantic with me
[04:54] <rathe> :d
[04:55] <camolion> wacom is a tablet right? why does it think i have a tablet?!??
[04:55] <dli> tailsfan, you need a working modem, of course :)
[04:56] <tailsfan> I have one
[04:56] <tailsfan> I'm just sick of disconnecting
[04:56] <Phoul> How do i revert to my defualt xmodmap settings?
[04:56] <tailsfan> it disconnecting automatically
[04:57] <gratuit> hey, I just bought a PDA, and I'm having trouble finding documentation on getting it to work in ubuntu, anyone lnow of anywhere I should be looking to get it to work?
[04:57] <linuxlearner> is there a file tree in ubuntu?
[04:57] <dli> tailsfan, then, give wvdial a try, it's usually better than the gnome default pppd
[04:57] <linuxlearner> like explorer in winer
[04:58] <dli> linuxboy, nautilus
[04:58] <narfmaster> linuxlearner, there is a "Tree" mode for the side panel
[04:58] <dli> linuxlearner, the desktop folders :)
[04:58] <kolaje> my usb device is not automaticall mounting like normal, how do i maybe scan for the devices, or mount it manually?
[04:59] <dli> kolaje, plugin, dmesg|tail
[04:59] <kolaje> thanks
[04:59] <dli> kolaje, and do something like, pmount /dev/sda1
[04:59] <camolion> my xorg cant find nv, what other drivers are there until i can get that set up?
[04:59] <tailsfan> Are there any programs that Ubuntu can use that recognize Webcams
[05:00] <narfmaster> camolion, did you try vesa?
[05:00] <dr_willis> camolion,  thats odd..
[05:00] <gratuit> does ubuntu use udev by default?
[05:00] <gratuit> dapper that is
[05:00] <linuxlearner> can i not drag and drop my folders into the themes folder from my desktop
[05:00] <camolion> my xorg.conf is having a ton of errors, i upgraded to dapper by switching the sources list to say dapper
[05:00] <narfmaster> linuxlearner, i don't see why not
[05:01] <camolion> really frustrating, i wish it was happening on a day when i wasnt feeling completely depressed and not feeling like dealing with this >_<
[05:01] <camolion> neither vesa or nv exist now o.o
[05:02] <narfmaster> camolion, it may be time to reinstall :p
[05:02] <dr_willis> sounds to me like all of X dident get installed/updated right
[05:02] <linuxlearner> funny thing is i cannot find ~/.themes
[05:02] <FunkyDiscoMan> camolion see if modules loaded "lsmod | grep nv"
[05:02] <narfmaster> linuxlearner, press Ctrl+H
[05:02] <camolion> i already tried that 2 times, and i dont have a CD burner right now to make a new versions CD
[05:02] <tailsfan> linux, you have to start the themes manager and it will create the folder
[05:03] <narfmaster> linuxlearner, you can make the folder yourself if need be
[05:03] <narfmaster> and make a ~/.fonts folder too
[05:04] <camolion> i need a hug
[05:04] <ssuehr> i need teh intarweb
[05:04] <camolion> trade?
[05:04] <ssuehr> heh
[05:05] <tailsfan> Is teher anyway of stopping Connection Timeouts?
[05:05] <linuxlearner> man i feel stupid at the moment
[05:05] <rathe> hey anyone know what this means
[05:06] <rathe> WARNING:  MeshTransform::Tool::Tool()  2.0.0 inversion bug
[05:06] <winman> #apt-cache shows that linux-headers-2.6.15.25-386 is available, when I try to do a apt-get install on it, it fails with package not found ... what needs to be done to fix this?
[05:06] <rathe>           The most likely cause is a 'spin' transformation
[05:06] <rathe> i get it when i try to play bzflag
[05:06] <newbuntu> hello
[05:06] <Cntryboy> Anyone know if apollon p2p program has a feature to turn off the download notification?
[05:06] <newbuntu>  can anyone help me with somewhat off-topic question? I have a linux qtopia-based han-held called Archos PMA 430m, its power adapter has a 3.7 voltage..and I lost it ! I have a multi adapter that does 3 and  4.5.. question is..is it safe to use either of these in your opinion?
[05:06] <narfmaster> rathe, i think you can safely ignore that
[05:06] <newbuntu> i love apollon , but im not sure about your question
[05:06] <linuxlearner> ctrl+h doesn't do anything for me, how do I create the themes and font folders
[05:07] <spades> linuxlearner open a terminal and mkdir .fonts
[05:07] <keleus> whats a quick way to find the full path of a binary launched from $PATH?
[05:07] <FunkyDiscoMan> camolion try  "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" then  "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" then "sudo init 6"
[05:07] <tailsfan> Is there anyway?
[05:08] <dr_willis> Moo?
[05:09] <dr_willis> keleus,  'which binaryname'
[05:09] <camolion> k, trying that
[05:09] <kuzmaster> hello all
[05:09] <narfmaster> which -a filename
[05:09] <camolion> the init 6 is rebooting o.o
[05:10] <FunkyDiscoMan> yup
[05:10] <keleus> chmod ug+s will make a binary run as a paticular user (the user/group of the file) rather than whoever ran the binary, right?
[05:11] <camolion> that cant be good.. i cant even see the command line
[05:11] <FunkyDiscoMan> arrrgh - really!!!!!!!!!
[05:11] <farky> !audio
[05:11] <Yan> Each time I try to do a ./configure it keeps telling me i doesnt have acceptable compilator in $path.. I try to locate any gcc / cc binaries but didnt find any how can i fix that please? :P
[05:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about audio
[05:11] <farky> !mp3
[05:11] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:11] <farky> !xmms
[05:11] <ubotu> Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC - also see !codecs
[05:11] <kuzmaster> !vmware
[05:11] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[05:12] <narfmaster> Yan install build-essential
[05:12] <FunkyDiscoMan> camolion - any news
[05:13] <Yan> narfmaster thx :)
[05:13] <tailsfan> Anyone getting the Ubuntu Book?
[05:13] <ubuntu_> how do I set up sound through the console?
[05:13] <narfmaster> Yan, you're welcome
[05:13] <FunkyDiscoMan> book?
[05:13] <camolion> it loads the kernal, then the screen goes completely blank x.x
[05:13] <wastrel> ubunto
[05:13] <FunkyDiscoMan> x.x
[05:14] <camolion> my CD burner wont respond either x.x
[05:14] <dr_willis> Orieally has a ub8untu 'hacks' book comming out.. i think theres some other books due out soon also
[05:15] <FunkyDiscoMan> camolion - bad night huh? id buy you a few whiskys if i could
[05:15] <camolion> very, i appreciate it though
[05:16] <m0gsi> hello
[05:16] <camolion> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190512&highlight=failed+load+module+%22kbd%22 <-- that was similar to my first problem, minus the synaptics thing
[05:17] <camolion> im gonna try to revive my cd burner, which involves rebooting this compy
[05:17] <camolion> hopefully i shall be back if it doesnt explode
[05:17] <camolion> now taking bets on previously mentioned explosion
[05:17] <FunkyDiscoMan> camolion - gl
[05:17] <Schalken> is there a way to stop the screensaver from going on while im playing a game?
[05:17] <andbelo> [skype]  I installed skype beta 1.3 in Dapper, but the sound has a bad quality. Does anybody had the same or know the reason for that?
[05:18] <pozdiy> what player to use for *.wmv?
[05:18] <Schalken> pozdiy: totem
[05:18] <dr_willis> pozdiy,  try vlc, xine, mplayer, totem, with the codecs.. and even THEN ive found some that none of them can play
[05:18] <Schalken> pozdiy: providing you have the codecs installed
[05:18] <pozdiy> thanks
[05:19] <hareem> hi guys can some one point me to the edubuntu chat room plz
[05:19] <keleus> whats the permissions for u=rwx,g=rwx,o=rx in octal?
[05:19] <dr_willis> pozdiy,  if its some 'porn' wmv's from the net - :P welll theres some nasty spamware-codec crud going on (i hear) :)
[05:19] <ssuehr> 775
[05:19] <Schalken> hareem: i would guess its #edubuntu
[05:19] <hareem> thanks man
[05:20] <FunkyDiscoMan> dr_willis - try gstreamer-properties make sure youve got the right outpt set
[05:20] <pozdiy> dr_willis, could be :-)
[05:20] <linuxlearner> man this is a pain
[05:20] <dr_willis> pozdiy,  i had a whole (on wait a FRIEND had a whole bunch) that wouldent play at all.. trying them under WMP10 - wanted to go to some Russian site for the codecs...
[05:20] <Trae> nomasteryoda, what are you doing now?  Come over to my house and help me build a machine.
[05:20] <Trae> heh
[05:21] <pozdiy> dr_willis, I guess I got one of thow wmvs here..
[05:21] <dreamcatcher5172> happy friday everyone
[05:22] <dr_willis> pozdiy,  i advise "friends" to not even mess with downloading torrents/other videos in wmv format.
[05:22] <pozdiy> dr_willis, oic, got it through gtk-gnutella
[05:22] <narfmaster> you should only download mp4s and ogms
[05:22] <QMario> Bye everyone!!! :)
[05:22] <Schalken> how come when i try to play warzone2100 it says "NETinitAudioCapture
[05:22] <Schalken> ./warzone.bin: symbol lookup error: ./warzone.bin: undefined symbol: alutLoadWAVMemory" and closes?
[05:22] <linuxlearner> how can i move these folders into there theme folders in terminal cause i'm an idiot on this bad gui
[05:23] <dr_willis> Bad guy? :)
[05:23] <hcjc92> i asked this yesterday (and forgot) what do i need to get to run startx i got xserver-xorg fluxbox and xdm...
[05:23] <dr_willis> hcjc92,  you mean what to you need to 'apt-get install' ?
[05:23] <hcjc92> yeah
[05:24] <hcjc92> i htought it was xserver-xorg
[05:24] <hcjc92> but that wasn't it
[05:24] <dr_willis> ya could just apt-get install fluxbox and it 'should' get all the needed packages as well
[05:24] <narfmaster> hcjc92, i don't think xdm and startx mix well
[05:25] <dr_willis> xdm reads the .xinitrc i thought.
[05:25] <pozdiy> did fluxbox ever get gui configurator, or one still has to deal with conf files?
[05:25] <dr_willis> or you can not use xdm and use startx
[05:25] <wsjunior> which option should i add to my fstab to get icons of my mounted partitions at the desktop?
[05:26] <narfmaster> wsjunior, that would be "user"
[05:26] <wastrel> hello
[05:27] <wsjunior> narfmaster: user or users?
[05:27] <narfmaster> i'm pretty sure it's "user"
[05:27] <hcjc92_> stupid naim not closing! (and acctually it turns out i hadn't gotten xdm (though i remember say apt-get install xdm))
[05:28] <hareem> any one know any lockdown apps for ubuntu
[05:28] <narfmaster> hcjc92_ i don't think xdm is in the Ubuntu repos
[05:28] <hcjc92_> i know :)
[05:28] <hcjc92_> but i got it
[05:28] <wsjunior> narfmaster: it doesnt worked :(
[05:28] <wsjunior> narfmaster: what more should i do?
[05:29] <hcjc92_> now i have to put unionfs and squashfs in my kernel x_X
[05:29] <jumbers> I wish I had an Eft :(
[05:29] <narfmaster> wsjunior, it should be something like "noauto,user" instead of "defaults"
[05:29] <wsjunior> narfmaster: hum.. let me try..
[05:29] <hcjc92_> 2.6.16 is the latest kernel right?
[05:29] <jumbers> 2.6.17
[05:30] <hcjc92_> gag
[05:30] <jumbers> well, 2.6.17.4
[05:30] <jumbers> Do you mean Ubuntu kernel? Or Kernel.org kernel?
[05:30] <wsjunior> narfmaster: still doesnt work. i can mount it normally but i cant see the icon at the desktop.
[05:30] <narfmaster> wsjunior, it might be a nautilus setting
[05:31] <rodrigo> Hi there, anyone got a Delta 44 soundcard ?
[05:31] <kwtm> My live CD works on my laptop, but after installation, my Belkin ethernet PCMCIA card isn't recognized.  I have the live CD booted up again now (and the ethernet PCMCIA is working), and used "lsmod" to list all the modules.  How do I know which module corresponds to my Belkin PCMCIA card?
[05:31] <wsjunior> narfmaster: could u help me to get it working?
[05:31] <narfmaster> wsjunior, look at "/apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible" in gconf-editor
[05:31] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> rodrigo: is that by maudio?
[05:31] <rodrigo> yes
[05:32] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> rodrigo: i have the audiophile , i think it has same chip
[05:32] <hcjc92_> tar -xvfs right (does that sound right) for un tar.gz
[05:32] <hcjc92_> ing
[05:32] <linuxlearner> do i need to use the su command for root
[05:32] <J_P> hey, how I create new initrd.img for my my new kernel ?
[05:32] <linuxlearner> cause i cannot get files to show
[05:32] <hcjc92_> or sudo
[05:32] <wsjunior> narfmaster: it is checked.
[05:33] <linuxlearner> don't understand it
[05:33] <camolion> CD burner ressurected, buring 5.10 CD
[05:33] <narfmaster> wsjunior, well that's the limit of my comprehension on the matter :p
[05:34] <mebsd> how can i mount ntfs in kubuntu
[05:34] <wsjunior> narfmaster: what i want to mount is in /mnt is it right? because when i plug an usb device it is mounted in /media...
[05:34] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> rodrigo: what u need?
[05:34] <narfmaster> wsjunior, it doesn't really matter where you mount it
[05:34] <wsjunior> narfmaster: as i thought....
[05:35] <rodrigo> I can't hear my analog inputs
[05:35] <rodrigo> I'm using envy24control
[05:35] <wsjunior> does anybody here knows what do i have to do to get the icon of my mounted partition at the desktop?
[05:36] <hcjc92_> tar isn't working :(
[05:36] <hcjc92_> tar -xvfz unionfs-1.3.tar.gz
[05:36] <hcjc92_> is that right?
[05:36] <mebsd> uh oh ! when tar don't work..
[05:37] <hcjc92_> eh?
[05:37] <mebsd> read the man page
[05:37] <agamotto> tar isn't working... in what manner?  No output, an error message?
[05:37] <J_P> hey, I ompile my new kernel using kernel-package, and create one kernel.deb, I install that kernel using dpkg -i new_kernel.deb, but in grub not create initrd, so how I create new initrd.img for my my new kernel ?
[05:37] <hcjc92_> tar: z: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[05:37] <hcjc92_> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[05:37] <realaboo> #help
[05:38] <mebsd> you are not using correct grammar
[05:38] <hcjc92_> me?
[05:38] <mebsd> yes you
[05:38] <narfmaster> the line was fine, maybe gzip is there
[05:39] <scholtz> anyone have a sli system?
[05:39] <narfmaster> *is not
[05:39] <hcjc92_> i hate..... me! tar -xvzf lol!
[05:39] <narfmaster> all you need really is tar xzf filename
[05:41] <hcjc92_> narfmaster, whats v do?
[05:41] <narfmaster> v = verbose
[05:41] <grubchub> howdy ho! is there anyway to see your full system configuration?
[05:42] <grubchub> ram, cpu speed, and what not?
[05:42] <narfmaster> grubchub, install sysinfo :)
[05:42] <cwillu> I say hamachi.  You say:
[05:42] <grubchub> sweet :) thanks narf
[05:42] <narfmaster> no problem grubchub
[05:43] <kormano> 
[05:43] <kormano> router ql
[05:43] <wsjunior> does anybody here knows what do i have to do to get the icon of my mounted partition at the desktop?
[05:43] <grubchub> doh, is sysinfo not avaiable through apt?
[05:44] <hcjc92_> gack Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.17 meh!
[05:44] <HBuzacott> wsjunior, you can just drag the icon out of '' computer onto your desktop
[05:44] <narfmaster> grubchub, it's in universe
[05:44] <wsjunior> which option should i add to my fstab to get icons of my mounted partitions at the desktop? its an ext3 partition. i can mount and use it but i would like to have that icon at the desktop as when i insert a cdrom or pendrive
[05:45] <HBuzacott> wsjunior, add the option user, which will make the partition user mountable/unmountable, and GNOME will add it to the desktop
[05:46] <narfmaster> hmm, that sounds familiar
[05:46] <wsjunior> hehe
[05:46] <wsjunior> i did it.
[05:46] <wsjunior> but it doesnt work.
[05:47] <wsjunior> im able to mount and use the partition
[05:47] <wsjunior> but i would like to have the damn icon at the desktop
[05:47] <wsjunior> it used to work with the older ubuntu..
[05:47] <keleus> can i set a users home to /dev/null?
[05:48] <wastrel> keleus:  i suppose.  why do you want to do that?
[05:48] <wastrel> keleus:  i think traditionally the user's shell is set to /bin/false if you want to disable their ability to login
[05:48] <narfmaster> or lock their password
[05:49] <keleus> .. nevermind i forgot something: the reason i made that user is no longer applicable...
[05:49] <keleus> i can just remove it :)
[05:50] <keane071> I cannot get mplayer to play a dvd fully. After the first part of the movie it errors out with a message like "unable to read source block 2365783" i have tried multiple dvds amd i know the drive works because i can watch dvds in windows. I have tried xine too but it just closes the second i try to play the dvd
[05:50] <keane071> any ideas?
[05:51] <hareem> does any one know the lockdown tool used for ubuntu
[05:51] <narfmaster> "Lock Screen"?
[05:52] <scholtz> how am i gonna record a dvd without X
[05:52] <scholtz> a ubuntu iso
[05:52] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> what is the command to specify which jave to use as default?
[05:53] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> scholtz: why cant u start x?
[05:53] <kizzume> I've forgotten how to view my shell history from a previous session....
[05:54] <ezenu_> more .bash_history
[05:54] <hareem> can some one please tell me the name of the lockdown app for ubuntu
[05:54] <narfmaster> VieLGuS-KuTaS, update-java-alternatives
[05:54] <kizzume> thanks
[05:54] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> narfmaster: ty
[05:54] <narfmaster> no problem, VieLGuS-KuTaS (i think that's the one)
[05:55] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> narfmaster: yup , but not sure how to specify it ,which executable for java?
[05:55] <aloysis> Hello, has anyone gotten nagios working on Dapper?
[05:56] <narfmaster> VieLGuS-KuTaS, use the -l to list and -s name to set
[05:57] <scholtz> VieLGuS-KuTaS: says my gpus arent support
[05:57] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> scholtz:  what video card u have ?
[05:57] <scholtz> asus nvidia 7600gs
[05:57] <kizzume> I got sound working before, it's ice1712, and I got help putting it in the etc modules file so it would be there when I restarted, but it didn't take, and now I can't remember how to get it going again...
[05:57] <scholtz> both sli
[05:57] <azriel_> has anyone here had any success with onboard surround using the nvidia nforce drivers?
[05:59] <narfmaster> hareem, i think you want "gnome-screensaver-command --lock"
[05:59] <eigenlambda> so firefox was randomly crashing.  it being the most memory-intensive program on my computer, i suspected the memory.  sure enough, one of the bits in the word at 11C9452C was failing one of the tests
[05:59] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> scholtz: im pretty sure its supported . just install the nvidia driver
[06:00] <eigenlambda> ...so i hear the way to resolve this issue is to add badram=11C9452C to my kernel command line?
[06:00] <kizzume> I put snd-ice1712 as an entry in modules--there was a carriage return afterwards, maybe that messed it up.  I'll try restarting my computer again and see if it took...
[06:00] <eigenlambda> but i need badram support first?
[06:00] <eigenlambda> so i go all 'apt-cache search badram'
[06:00] <eigenlambda> and find nothing
[06:00] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> scholtz: dont use sli , use only one card for linux
[06:01] <narfmaster> eigenlambda, it's probably one of those things you have to recompile the kernel for
[06:01] <eigenlambda> ya, thats what i gather...
[06:01] <eigenlambda> theres a package for badram for warty, but not dapper
[06:01] <grubchub> yay!
[06:01] <grubchub> ssh is working
[06:03] <grubchub> can you specifiy a domain within let's say a putty termial that points to your home IP (if it's dynamic and if the appropriate ports are forwarded?)
[06:03] <grubchub> to ssh to your box?
[06:03] <grubchub> so I don't have to remember my ip?
[06:03] <grubchub> or hope it doesn't change ;)
[06:03] <sean_> Hey all
[06:03] <hcjc92_> gack! apt-get install linux-source-2.6.17 does get found....
[06:03] <narfmaster> heh
[06:03] <wastrel> grubchub:  try adding it to /etc/hosts
[06:04] <wastrel> grubchub:  or the windows equivalent which i belive is something like C:\windows\hosts
[06:04] <sean_> Can somone help me out with making a sim link to Jedit (java program)?
[06:04] <wastrel> grubchub:  or just make a profile in putty
[06:05] <grubchub> okie doke, i was just woundering if that was a valid method for connectnig through SSH
[06:05] <grubchub> or if you HAVE to have an IP
[06:05] <tehgooch> argh this broadcom wireless is going to kill me
[06:05] <grubchub> I guess I could always just ping the dyndns IP
[06:05] <grubchub> er
[06:05] <grubchub> domain
[06:05] <eigenlambda> why isn't badram in the vanilla kernel?  it seems like a simple, non-performance-impactful patch...
[06:05] <scholtz> VieLGuS-KuTaS: ok but the driver in the dapper release doesnt support my card
[06:05] <grubchub> and get the IP that way
[06:05] <kizzume> Well, I tried taking the carriage return out, but that didn't help.  What more would I need in the /etc/modules file besides "snd-ice1712" to get my sound working?
[06:05] <scholtz> VieLGuS-KuTaS: im downloading one from the site
[06:05] <wastrel> grubchub:  if you have a dyndns domain why can't you put that into putty
[06:05] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> scholtz: i know , thats why u need to install the nvidia driver
[06:05] <grubchub> oh I wasn't sure if I could or couldn't
[06:05] <tkup> is there anything similar to tripwire?
[06:06] <grubchub> haven't had the chance to set it up yet :p
[06:06] <narfmaster> eigenlambda, i think once part of your RAM is going bad it won't be too long before it all goes bad
[06:06] <tehgooch> i just got a lenovo 3000 c100 laptop, put ubuntu on it right away without grabbing the wireless drivers off it beforehand :(
[06:06] <grubchub> sorry, just being laaazzzy thought I'd ask first ;)
[06:06] <tehgooch> i hope you all don't mind me whining ;)
[06:06] <eigenlambda> this is defective, but i can't return it 'cause i don't have the original packaging
[06:07] <eigenlambda> mmm.  ubuntu uses 2.6.15; there is no badram patch for this kernel.
[06:08] <scholtz> whats the release after dapper?
[06:09] <narfmaster> breezy if you go backwards in time
[06:09] <madhat> edgy eft right?
[06:09] <tehgooch> oKtosiTe, so I am downloading the broadcom drivers for my laptop right now, and I should be able to extract the broadcom drivers for use in dapper from the EXE right?
[06:10] <tehgooch> let me find the thread..
[06:10] <tehgooch> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=lenovo+3000+c100
[06:10] <tehgooch> i hope this works
[06:11] <kizzume> I need help with my delta66 card.  I remember that the command to get it working involves snd-ice1712, but that's all I can remember.
[06:12] <Mez> kizzume - probable sudo modprobe snd-icw1712
[06:13] <narfmaster> lsmod | grep ice1712
[06:14] <kizzume> Mez:  Trying that--checking to see if that worked..
[06:14] <grubchub> yay!
[06:14] <grubchub> it worked
[06:14] <grubchub> now I should probably find a better subdomain name...
[06:15] <kizzume> Mez:  nope--that didn't do it.  It had a pipe | symbol in it...
[06:15] <Mez> kizzume ?
[06:15] <Mez> kizzume - pastebin the output of lsmod | grep snd-ice
[06:15] <kizzume> Mez:  that seems more like it.. let me check that...
[06:16] <grubchub> installing uvc woot woot!
[06:16] <Mez> (kizzume - thats just to see if the module is loaded)
[06:16] <kizzume> Mez:  Nothing came up.
[06:17] <kizzume> Mez:  but I remember the command having grep and | in it....
[06:17] <grubchub> actually i better not
[06:17] <grubchub> better keep this system clean
[06:17] <Mez> kizzume, probably not to make it work
[06:17] <grubchub> since it's soooo ooooold
[06:19] <tehgooch> I like pipes.
[06:19] <tehgooch> |||||||
[06:19] <hcjc92_> me too :)
[06:19] <tehgooch> I feel 1337 whenever I use them.
[06:20] <hcjc92_> and >>
[06:20] <tehgooch> Oh yeah, don't get me started on those.
[06:20] <hcjc92_> ps aux >> ~/thingy.txt
[06:20] <hcjc92_> yay!
[06:20] <tehgooch> heh
[06:20] <hcjc92_> or ps aux | more
[06:20] <TTilus> skipped your meds?
[06:20] <tehgooch> i'm heavily medicated right now, just got my wisdom teeth out a day or two ago
[06:20] <hcjc92_> oh
[06:20] <hcjc92_> ow
[06:21] <tehgooch> tell me about it
[06:21] <TTilus> _had_ you meds  :D
[06:21] <tehgooch> better stay on topic
[06:21] <TTilus> damn right you are
[06:21] <hcjc92_> i don't know what its like i haven't had the hapen
[06:21] <hcjc92_> :P
[06:21] <hcjc92_> i cna just imagine it hurting
[06:21] <tehgooch> I'm just trying to get my broadcom wireless on my new Lenovo laptop working.
[06:22] <tehgooch> Unsuccessful so far.
[06:22] <tehgooch> The meds aren't helping.
[06:22] <TTilus> tehgooch: why don't you just try it tomorrow  ;)
[06:22] <tehgooch> hah
[06:22] <tehgooch> but then I would have no bash.org in bed.
[06:23] <kizzume> !register kizzume
[06:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about register kizzume
[06:24] <agamotto> me waves
[06:25] <fiftyfour123> how do i boot ppc ubuntu from my external firewire hard drive?
[06:26] <fiftyfour123> cuz yaboot failed to install
[06:26] <arooni> hey folks, (i'm using a ubuntu dapper emulated thru vmware)  how can i 1) assign a unique IP address that i use to connect to the internet 2) find out the MAC address of abuntu
[06:26] <tehgooch> ifconfig
[06:26] <hcjc92_> why does: "  git clone rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git ubuntu-2.6" seem to be doing stuff, and then doing it again and gettings stuck on the third pack?
[06:26] <fiftyfour123> how do i boot ppc ubuntu from my external firewire hard drive?
[06:26] <fiftyfour123> how do i boot ppc ubuntu from my external firewire hard drive?
[06:26] <fiftyfour123> cuz yaboot failed to install
[06:27] <hcjc92_> gurb? lilo?
[06:27] <fiftyfour123> do they work on ppc?
[06:27] <snoops> arooni one way for mac address.. open up terminal type ifconfig
[06:27] <snoops> for ip address..
[06:27] <Mez> hcjc92, gurb rocks! :P
[06:28] <fiftyfour123> hcjc92: do they work on ppc?
[06:28] <snoops> system>admin..>networking
[06:28] <hcjc92_> fiftyfour123, whats ppc?
[06:28] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> how do i use the update-java-alternatives ?  i know where i installed jre but dont know how to make it default ,
[06:28] <snoops> then from there you can click on your ethernet connection arooni and click properties
[06:28] <hcjc92_> and does anyone haVE any ideas about my proble?
[06:28] <fiftyfour123> powerpc is ppc
[06:28] <hcjc92_> why does: "  git clone rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git ubuntu-2.6" seem to be doing stuff, and then doing it again and gettings stuck on the third pack?
[06:29] <fiftyfour123> hcjc92: ppc is an arch for the older macs
[06:29] <fiftyfour123> not older
[06:29] <fiftyfour123> but before they switched to intel
[06:29] <Aven> hello
[06:29] <Aven> my PC keeps shutting down and says it's overheating, however fans are working well... what seems to be the problem?
[06:30] <hcjc92_> oh, i  don't know then, i've never used a mac (well elementry school made us use iMac (eviler than windows (tis saying somthing))
[06:30] <hcjc92_> i don't think eviler is a word, but you get the idea
[06:31] <fiftyfour123> yeah, lol
[06:31] <hcjc92_> awsome   git clone rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git ubuntu-2.6 finally finished!
[06:31] <Tom7e> what is the most commonly used personal finance software?
[06:31] <CrazyDoode> kmoney
[06:32] <Aven> my PC keeps shutting down and says it's overheating, however fans are working well... what seems to be the problem?
[06:32] <CrazyDoode> or gnucash
[06:32] <CrazyDoode> it's overheating?
[06:32] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> yup
[06:32] <Aven> that's what it says
[06:32] <Tom7e> not grisbi?
[06:33] <CrazyDoode> have your tried grisbi  Tom7e ?
[06:33] <Tom7e> no
[06:33] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> clean out the dust from the heatskink , reapply the thermal compund
[06:33] <Mez> Tom7e - i use grisbi
[06:33] <CrazyDoode> try it then.
[06:33] <hcjc92_> OmG a comp overheating! (thats a first, never seen that before, cept when my friend took the fans and heatsink out of his comp)
[06:33] <CrazyDoode> i suggest water cooling
[06:33] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> clean out the dust from the heatskink , reapply the thermal compund
[06:34] <Tom7e> my laptop overheats sometimes
[06:34] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> how do i use the update-java-alternatives ?  i know where i installed jre but dont know how to make it default ,
[06:34] <J_P> People, I compile my new kernel using kernel-package, and create one new_kernel.deb, I install that kernel using dpkg -i new_kernel.deb, but in grub not create initrd, so how I create new initrd.img for my my new kernel ?
[06:34] <farky> Anyone here use Qemu?
[06:34] <narfmaster> you really need initrd?
[06:34] <iKernel> anybody know how to add a library path? I want the system to see the libs in /usr/local/lib
[06:34] <CrazyDoode> J_P: grub and initrd.img are two different things
[06:35] <Aven> that's what it says
[06:35] <farky> Anyone use Qemu?
[06:35] <narfmaster> i've used qemu and vmware
[06:35] <CrazyDoode> iKernel: type echo $PATH to see your path
[06:35] <hcjc92_> anyone ever used unionfs (please someone) (i guess i should learn more before trying to add unionfs to my kernel, but blah)
[06:36] <erpo> If I want to build my own kernel, how do I create an initramfs so I still get the ubuntu graphical boot screen?
[06:36] <iKernel> CrazyDoode, Ah, so we have to add it to the PATH variable eh? Alright, I'll try that.
[06:36] <farky> narfmaster: i just installed it, but do you know how to make the Qemu window non-transparent; by default it is transparent
[06:36] <winman> iKernel, export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib:/usr/lib:/lib
[06:36] <narfmaster> farky, not without having compiz anyway
[06:37] <iKernel> thanks winman
[06:37] <tehgooch> Can anybody help me with setting up my broadcom wireless drivers in a Lenovo 3000 C100?
[06:37] <winman> iKernel, np
[06:37] <tehgooch> I seem to be having nothing but problems.
[06:37] <farky> narfmaster: i am using cmpiz
[06:37] <farky> compiz**
[06:37] <CrazyDoode> tehgooch: go to #ubuntu-laptop
[06:37] <tehgooch> ok, i'll try that
[06:37] <tehgooch> thanks CrazyDoode
[06:38] <dli> tehgooch, modprobe bcm43xx
[06:38] <narfmaster> hmm, farky i forget exactly how to deal with that
[06:38] <hcjc92_> noone ever used unionfs?
[06:38] <tehgooch> dli, nothing shows up
[06:39] <tehgooch> I used wl_apsta.o from this thread the first http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=lenovo+3000+c100
[06:39] <tehgooch> Which did not work.
[06:39] <dli> tehgooch, after that, try: sudo iwconfig
[06:39] <tehgooch> ifconfig?
[06:39] <farky> narfmaster: any idea?
[06:40] <narfmaster> farky, just a sec
[06:40] <hcjc92_bedtime> nightall
[06:40] <rob138> hi when i ls a directory, all the files except one are black, the one is green, what does green mean?
[06:40] <farky> narfmaster: nvm, it's not working correctly anyways
[06:41] <narfmaster> okay, cool
[06:41] <narfmaster> anyway, in the future you might try: export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
[06:41] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> how do i use the update-java-alternatives ?  i know where i installed jre but dont know how to make it default ,
[06:42] <Kibbled_bits> make it the default in what?
[06:42] <Kibbled_bits> for instance FireFox I think all you have to do is create a SymLink
[06:42] <Kibbled_bits> I can find the documentation somewhere
[06:42] <Kibbled_bits> cuz for instance I think you can have several JREs installed
[06:43] <rob138> hi when i ls a directory, all the files except one are black, the one is green, what does green mean?
[06:43] <narfmaster> green = executable
[06:44] <arooni> i have vmware running on my windows comptuer and i'm trying to connect to my guest os (ubuntu dapper) at its ip address at port 3000 (webrick's server)..... are there any reasons in unbuntu why i would be unable to do this (using NAT connection)
[06:44] <hawke> How can I easily get to a package in launchpad, rather than a distro-specific version of a package?
[06:44] <Kibbled_bits> I have a non-profit idea regarding Ubuntu
[06:44] <Kibbled_bits> anybody care to hear?
[06:44] <Tachyon> I have a problem. :|  My laptop overheated and shutdown during Dapper installation.  Now Grub gives "error 15"--I can't even boot into Windows.  How can I fix this?
[06:45] <erpo> VieLGuS-KuTaS: I just used the regular sun jvm installer.
[06:45] <erpo> Kibbled_bits: Sure.
[06:45] <wsjunior> is ati drivers supposed to work with xorg 7?
[06:45] <dli> Tachyon, overheating is a hardware problem
[06:45] <theapoc> Tachyon, use your WinXP cd to restore the mbr (master boot record)
[06:45] <Kibbled_bits> 7?
[06:45] <Kibbled_bits> I thought we were on 11?
[06:45] <erpo> 11.7
[06:45] <Tachyon> I don't have a WinXP CD--I only have a Toshiba recovery disk :(
[06:46] <Kibbled_bits> Tach, you were dual booted?
[06:46] <Fab_10> Anybody know of a Linux hardware review site? I'm looking to build a new computer soon, and the sites I have found similar to this are defunct.
[06:46] <ABACVS> lo all
[06:46] <erpo> Tachyon: Try reinstalling dapper. That will fix grub. Your windows system should still be there.
[06:46] <narfmaster> newegg is good IMHO
[06:46] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> erpo: i already installed java, but u still need to tell the system which java client to use by default
[06:46] <wsjunior> is anybody here running ati drivers with xorg 7?
[06:47] <erpo> VieLGuS-KuTaS: Do you want to use the firefox plugin for java, or did you get it for some other reason?
[06:47] <Kibbled_bits> non-profit idea: take in/collect unused PCs then refurbish or rebuild with Ubuntu on them
[06:47] <dli> Fab_10, the hw page from fsf: http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/
[06:47] <jojoman02> i keep getting a segfault when starts gdmsetup
[06:47] <Tachyon> erpo: Yes, it is; all the files are intact.  Unfortunately, my computer overheats during install.  I know it's a hardware problem, and I'm probably crazy to hope that Dapper will perform better. :/
[06:47] <Kibbled_bits> then distribute them to poor, single mothers, elderly etc
[06:47] <Tachyon> Maybe I'll just have to wait until the entire machine cools down in a few hours?
[06:47] <dli> Fab_10, my way is to get the newest stable kernel, make menuconfig
[06:47] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> erpo: azureus
[06:47] <erpo> Tachyon: Toshiba, you say?
[06:47] <Tachyon> Yes
[06:47] <Kibbled_bits> or even private schools with not much money or day cares
[06:47] <Tachyon> The evil A70 variety
[06:47] <Fab_10> And usually everything is fully supported by then ?
[06:47] <Kibbled_bits> each would be a project though and analyzed
[06:48] <narfmaster> Kibbled_bits, there are some schools that are already doing that
[06:48] <erpo> Tachyon: Go into your bios and change your cpu frequency from "dynamic" to "always low". That might solve the overeating problem long enough to install.
[06:48] <erpo> *overheating
[06:48] <Kibbled_bits> yes we need a single non-profit to do this
[06:48] <Fab_10> dli: Oh wow that looks like just what I was looking for. Thanks a lot.
[06:48] <Kibbled_bits> sort of aggregate the work
[06:49] <erpo> Kibbled_bits: Well, get to it.
[06:49] <narfmaster> heh
[06:50] <Kibbled_bits> frankly most schools or people who would need a PC aren't knowledgeable enough to know that there's still value in an 800mhz computer and that they're being thrown away in wholesale
[06:50] <jojoman02> can anyone help, i get segfault when starting gmdsetup, where is gdmsetup skin folder located?
[06:50] <Tachyon> erpo: Did I mention it was a Celeron? :/  No frequency scaling.  I don't have that option in my bios.
[06:50] <erpo> Tachyon: Celeron M?
[06:50] <Edgtho> I've a question ._.
[06:50] <Tachyon> erpo: No clue.
[06:50] <theapoc> Anyone know of a good alarm app?
[06:50] <dli> jojoman02, /etc/X11/gdm/ gdm.conf or custom.conf
[06:50] <Edgtho> If I'm going to have ubuntu and XP on the same computer, which would I install first?
[06:50] <erpo> theapoc: cron+mpg123
[06:50] <Kibbled_bits> did you search the universe?
[06:51] <poje> Okay, so I put dapper on a friend's laptop and the buttons in Gnome have funny dots in a grid over them until they are moused over, when they become normal
[06:51] <poje> Any idea what's going on?
[06:51] <dli> Edgtho, windows, then, ubuntu, because ubuntu knows howto deal with windows
[06:51] <Edgtho> Thanks a bunch =3
[06:51] <narfmaster> theapoc, xmms-alarm is nice
[06:52] <xnull-> hmm any ideea why my ubuntu it's not working?( everything looks ok gdm start I type my user/password and after that he is loading and staying there) no err. no nothing just a brown colour .
[06:52] <xnull-> starts*
[06:52] <theapoc> narfmaster, yeah I tried it, but I was looking for an alternative
[06:53] <J_P> CrazyDoode: ok, so how I create the initrd after install the new kernel ?
[06:53] <Shizboom> poje - switch theme
[06:53] <qwzybug> hey party people!
[06:53] <Shizboom> poje - that should fix it
[06:53] <dli> xnull-, a n00b way, in console ( Ctl-Alt-F1 ), stop gdm ( sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop ), rm -rf ~/.gconf* ~/.gnome* , restart gdm
[06:53] <qwzybug> ubuntu rocks. I still like OSX better, but it genuinely rocks.
[06:53] <poje> Shizboom - awesome, I'll try that; thanks a lot :)
[06:54] <qwzybug> question: is there any way to get my Airport card working in Ubuntu yet? I heard a rumor that that's not in the cards until the next release in October
[06:54] <Shizboom> ati vid card right poje?
[06:54] <qwzybug> or would I have to recompile the kernel to get airport working?
[06:54] <poje> Shizboom - yeah, some sort of ATI mobile
[06:54] <Shizboom> kk
[06:54] <poje> qwzybug - I _heard_ airport support was in dapper by default, but I'm not sure
[06:55] <Shizboom> anything but human should work for a good theme with no button coruption
[06:55] <dli> xnull-, if that doesn't solve the problem, remove all gnome and reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[06:55] <poje> Shizboom - excellent, thanks :D
[06:55] <J-_> where are temp files stored at?
[06:55] <Shizboom> np
[06:56] <narfmaster> J-_, /tmp
[06:56] <J-_> thanks
[06:56] <J-_> it's alright to delete everything in there?
[06:56] <narfmaster> yep
[06:56] <J-_> excellent.
[06:59] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> how do i use the update-java-alternatives ?  i know where i installed jre but dont know how to make it default ,
[07:00] <HackerX2> ** Hey, What is everyone using for torrent. I can no longer stand Ktorrent It just doesnt work well. the main problem is the upload speed limiter doesnt work so it bogs my net way down. So i would like yout guys opion on torrent apps, Thanks**
[07:00] <qwzybug> poje: I couldn't get it working... there was an entry in the network options box for a wireless adapter, and it said it was active, but I couldn't figure out how to get actual internets working....
[07:00] <qwzybug> aaanyway, I gots to go
[07:00] <qwzybug> see you ubuntuers tomorrow
[07:00] <qwzybug> byee
[07:00] <narfmaster> HackerX2, i'm using utorrent
[07:01] <hate-> anyone: mounted ntfs but cant access as user, no permission?
[07:01] <dli> hate-, add uid= option
[07:02] <dli> hate-, example, mount -n -oremount,ro,uid=dli /dev/hda1
[07:02] <Shizboom> you cant write to ntfs without some other special programs installed i dont think
[07:02] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell hate- about ntfs
[07:02] <HackerX2> narfmaster, I love utorrent thats all i ever run i have it on all my $Windoze$ boxs but i dont belive theres a linux install i thought there was but i didnt see it on there site maybe i missed something?
[07:02] <Shizboom> !ntfs
[07:02] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[07:02] <narfmaster> HackerX2, i use it with Wine
[07:02] <HackerX2> really
[07:03] <HackerX2> no problems at all?
[07:03] <narfmaster> yep, works fine with 0.9.12 or newer
[07:03] <zubeen> how do i disable ipv6
[07:03] <HackerX2> wow
[07:03] <HackerX2> sweet
[07:03] <HackerX2> soo
[07:03] <camolion> i need help getting an exclude command on tar to work right, the man page says [  --exclude  FILE  ] , so would --exclude /proc/ be right to exclude /proc/ from a tar operation?
[07:03] <HackerX2> i can just download it normal cuz i have wine already
[07:03] <hate-> used that script, got it mounted but cant access it as user, only as root..
[07:03] <kizzume> test
[07:03] <HackerX2> will it run on its own?
[07:03] <HackerX2> or do i have to use the terminal
[07:03] <narfmaster> HackerX2, really it should work fine :)
[07:04] <HackerX2> Thats sweet
[07:04] <HackerX2> Alrigth thanks i guess that never really crossed my mind
[07:05] <HackerX2> narfmaster, one last thing did you get the install or did you run the standalone?
[07:05] <narfmaster> standalone
[07:05] <HackerX2> Alright thanks
[07:05] <narfmaster> no problem
[07:08] <shen> I'm running 6.06 on a g4 ibook. If I boot up with my usb mouse installed it isn't found or powered on (the lazer isn't running). When I unplug it and plug it back in it works fine. How can I get it going from boot time without unplugging it?
[07:08] <HackerX2> Ok some how i managed to get a locked folder on my desktop how do i get rid of it???
[07:09] <narfmaster> HackerX2, just change the permissions to read/write
[07:11] <Madpilot> HackerX2, right-click on it, choose Properties, and check the Permissions tab
[07:12] <distantmsx> From terminal, how can i open a file in my cdrom bay?
[07:12] <HackerX2> ok the problem its lock under root and im root but i think in to use sudo in the terminal what the command?
[07:13] <narfmaster> sudo chmod +w
[07:13] <dli> distantmsx, be specific
[07:13] <Shizboom> distantmsx - gksudo nautilus
[07:13] <Shizboom> that will bring up nautilus with under root
[07:13] <Shizboom> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/permissions.php
[07:14] <Zob> How does one explore the c:\ with wine..
[07:14] <distantmsx> prob is my bro's box has a geforce w/o linux supported drivers - so i burned the one he needed on cdrom, he has ubuntu its boots upto command line
[07:14] <hareem> can ubuntu be used in a cyber cafe
[07:14] <narfmaster> Zob, go to ~/.wine/drive_c/
[07:15] <Zob> thanks
[07:15] <narfmaster> hareem, i think so
[07:16] <Shizboom> what exactly are the big differences between kde and gnome?
[07:16] <erpo> hareem: You mean wireless.
[07:16] <hareem> both wired and wireless
[07:17] <narfmaster> Shizboom, KDE uses Qt and Gnome uses itself and GTK
[07:17] <erpo> hareem: Both.
[07:17] <erpo> hareem: Getting wired networks to work is a moderate main.
[07:17] <erpo> *parin
[07:17] <erpo> hareem: Getting wireless networks to work is a major hassle. However, there's a package called networkmanager that makes some things a lot easier.
[07:17] <hareem> well which is more likely to be done
[07:18] <erpo> hareem: Cybercafes are more likely to provide you with a computer while you're there. However, if they don't, your only option may be wireless.
[07:18] <Zob> is there a .deb file for wintools? If so, can I get a link?
[07:18] <narfmaster> a good cybercafe would just be a server and a wireless router
[07:18] <narfmaster> Zob, use winecfg
[07:19] <xnull-> how do I update kernel to 2.6.17 ? (any chance) ? i want ubuntu packages not recompiled by me :P
[07:19] <hate-> dev/sda1       /windows        owner,uid=1000,gid=1000,async,ro,umask=000      0       0
[07:19] <hate-> /dev/sda5       /media/sda5 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0133,dmask=0022,uid=1000,umask=000 0 0
[07:19] <hareem> i want to setup a cafe. Using ubuntu . Im trying to setup chillispot but its too much for me. So for now i want to setup a wired cafe
[07:19] <hate-> is that right?
[07:19] <ultra> Hi guys. Brand new to Ubuntu here
[07:19] <Zob> use wine config  in terminal didnt work for me
[07:19] <erpo> xnull-: I think 2.6.15 is the latest kernel available precompiled.
[07:19] <ToHellWithGA> how can i set up tor and privoxy in ubuntu?
[07:19] <userundefine> Hi ultra
[07:20] <distantmsx>  i need to open NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8762-pkg2.run via command line from a cdrom
[07:20] <xnull-> erpo: it's kinda old
[07:20] <erpo> hareem: If you're setting up your own cafe, definitely go for wired. You'll have a lot less hassle.
[07:20] <ultra> Can somebody answer me a stupid question? How do I create a link to a partition on the desktop?
[07:20] <xnull-> ultra: with ln
[07:21] <ultra> xnull-, Just a ln and put it into my desktop?
[07:21] <hareem> yeah. But how can i use ubuntu to do that. I mean i want to logoff my user when their time ends and i want to disable access to all the admin controls on the clint pc
[07:21] <Zob> how to get to wine config?
[07:21] <xnull-> ultra: man ln
[07:21] <narfmaster> Zob, type "winecfg"
[07:21] <userundefine> ultra, do you want all of them on your desktop ?
[07:21] <erpo> ultra:  ln -s /path/to/the/mounted/partition ~/Desktop
[07:22] <ultra> userundefine, no, got them all excepted one new I want to access read/write (one of my old win partitions). RW works great but shortcut to it missing on the desktop
[07:22] <Zob> is it possible to show windows applications in the ubuntu applications menu?
[07:22] <ultra> Thx erpo
[07:23] <userundefine> ultra, ah, well just use erpo's ln -s
[07:23] <erpo> xnull-: Considering how much of a pain in the * linux kernel and driver compilation and installation can be, being only a couple patchlevels behind isn't much.
[07:23] <xnull-> erpo: yeah I know but fedora  and others got default 2.6.17.x  now
[07:23] <erpo> xnull-: Besides, if you compile your own kernel, none of the downloadable drivers for ubuntu 6.06 will work with your kernel.
[07:24] <eigenlambda> ya
[07:24] <camolion> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) <-- it gives me a bunch of those when i tryed uncommenting stuff on the sources list
[07:24] <Zob> how would I get streaming video files from other online web sites to work? They are not loading.
[07:25] <erpo> xnull-: I know. The way linux is built inherently makes it hard to stay up to date.
[07:25] <eigenlambda> i think ubuntu should have badram built in so ppls with bad ram, which happens alot to old compies, don't need to recompile theys kernels
[07:25] <Madpilot> camolion, can you pastebin your sources.list for us to look at?
[07:25] <camolion> wait.. nevermind, i think it fixes when i press reload
[07:25] <camolion> just the plain old sources list with the # taken out
[07:26] <ultra> Thx a lot, works like a charm with ln -s
[07:26] <xnull-> erpo: any ideea for a remote desktop client/server? (no vnc) cuz suck big time
[07:27] <erpo> xnull-: Supposedly there's a thing called nx that works well over reasonably sized pipes.
[07:28] <ultra> Does somebody have experience compiling or running wine on AMD64?
[07:29] <narfmaster> i'm sure somebody somewhere does ;)
[07:29] <ultra> narfmaster,  :-))
[07:29] <Zob> can anyone help me get streaming videos to work in firefox
[07:30] <narfmaster> Zob, you probably need the flash plugin
[07:30] <Zob> I have got the flash plugin..
[07:30] <Zob> flash works fine
[07:30] <narfmaster> and possibly the mozilla-mplayer
[07:30] <xnull-> zob: you need a player installed
[07:30] <eigenlambda> Zob:  you need mozilla-mplayer and win32codecs
[07:30] <erpo> ultra: No on the wine. I would try using a 32-bit kernel and 32-bit software. Your cpu should support it.
[07:30] <Zob> I got real player installed
[07:30] <Zob> alright
[07:30] <eigenlambda> mozilla-mplayer is in universe
[07:31] <eigenlambda> win32codecs is illegal, so you need to download it from an illegal repository
[07:31] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> someone tell me how to set the sun java to default
[07:31] <ultra> erpo, thx, just a pitty for the 64 then. Tried to compile but too many errors
[07:31] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> everything is legal in russia
[07:31] <eigenlambda> in russia, your mom is legal
[07:32] <eigenlambda> *daughter
[07:32] <bimberi> VieLGuS-KuTaS: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:33] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> bimberi: thanks , thats what i was looking for , but how can i specify the install path , couse its not showing up the menu
[07:33] <xnull-> haha VieLGuS-KuTaS>
[07:33] <DaveyJ> umount: /media/usbdisk: device is busy
[07:33] <DaveyJ> how can i tell what's using the device?
[07:33] <DaveyJ> because its not active at all
[07:34] <spades> Daveyboy are you inside its dir while trying to unmount? if so cd to home or something
[07:34] <xnull-> daveyj : pwd
[07:34] <bimberi> VieLGuS-KuTaS: i don't know.  When i installed the ubuntu (multiverse) sun java package it appears in that menu
[07:34] <rob138> if have a makefile and a *.c, what do i need to do to compile?
[07:34] <DaveyJ> no i'm not in the directory
[07:34] <ultra> Last question for today, is there a great file manager somewhere as I really don't like Thunar File Manager?
[07:35] <ultra> Kind of multiwindowed
[07:35] <DaveyJ> pwd ?
[07:35] <shen> I'm running 6.06 on a g4 ibook. If I boot up with my usb mouse plugged in it isn't found or powered on (the lazer isn't running). When I unplug it and plug it back in it works fine. How can I get it going from boot time without unplugging it?
[07:35] <xnull-> rob138 : build-esential
[07:35] <DaveyJ> that just shows my home directory
[07:35] <rob138> xnull-, but what is the command i do in the directory
[07:36] <xnull-> rob138 : apt-get install build-esential (install gcc first)
[07:36] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> bimberi: i know , but i installed it into a nondefault directory
[07:37] <calamari> hi
[07:37] <ultra> hi calamari
[07:37] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> hi
[07:37] <calamari> when I go to the Gnome menu and choose Quit then Shut Down, it logs out instead of shutting down.  Any idea what might be wrong?
[07:38] <calamari> hi ultra, how are you?
[07:38] <rob138> xnull-, i have all the stuff installed, but when i execute make i get: makefile:23: *** missing separator (did you mean TAB instead of 8 spaces?).  Stop.
[07:38] <ultra> calamari thx, i'm fine
[07:38] <jackrazz> hey everyone
[07:38] <distantmsx> i have a problem, who can help?
[07:39] <ultra> erpo, no idea about a nice file manager?
[07:39] <bimberi> VieLGuS-KuTaS: sorry, i've not delved into how the alternatives system works because it usually just works (tm)
[07:39] <jackrazz> making another crack at installing xgl for the umtheeth time - sooner or later, I'll get it right(:
[07:39] <calamari> distantmsx: there isn't really 1 on 1 support here.. you just need to ask your question and see if anyone knows the answer
[07:39] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> ok , ty
[07:39] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> bimberi: ty
[07:39] <bimberi> VieLGuS-KuTaS: yw :)
[07:40] <jackrazz> lots of users here tonight...
[07:40] <distantmsx> new box w/o supported drivers means no display. i have the drivers on cdrom, any idea on terminal command to run the file from there?
[07:40] <[Nige] > anyone had much luck configuring mplayer pre0-8
[07:40] <jackrazz> what kind of file distantmsx
[07:40] <distantmsx> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8762-pkg2.run
[07:41] <distantmsx> its for configuring X from terminal
[07:41] <hate-> anyone know of an alt to gaim? preferably with ym cam? oh and mp3 playback?
[07:41] <hawkaloogie> distantmsx, if you're using ubuntu, try installing the nvidia drivers from apt
[07:41] <jackrazz> don't know that one, just know about tar, deb and bin.
[07:41] <hawkaloogie> distantmsx, i just tried to get the ones from NVIDIA and they did not work no matter what i did
[07:41] <erpo> hate-: I think there's a fork of gaim with webcam support. I don't know about an integrated mp3 player.
[07:42] <distantmsx> how can i edit the repositories from terminal?
[07:42] <jackrazz> I can give you the driver names if you need them.
[07:42] <calamari> distantmsx: sudo nano /etc/arpt/sources.lst
[07:42] <narfmaster> distantmsx, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:42] <calamari> bah typo
[07:42] <calamari> narfmaster: thanks :)
[07:42] <jackrazz> thats even better calamari..
[07:42] <narfmaster> no problem
[07:42] <distantmsx> and is the apt-get install <same file as i named>?
[07:43] <jackrazz> anyone here install xgl?
[07:43] <narfmaster> apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:43] <distantmsx> thx
[07:43] <mikere> distantmsx: have you tried the nvidia driver that comes with ubuntu?  apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:43] <erpo> jackrazz: Tried it. Too much trouble.
[07:43] <distantmsx> ill go try it now
[07:43] <jackrazz> narf, doesnt that just install opengl stuff?
[07:43] <jackrazz> or does it do everything?
[07:43] <mikere> jackrazz: no, it installs whole thing
[07:43] <hate-> erpo: its on that repository thing right?
[07:43] <jackrazz> automated dependicies are great
[07:44] <cwillu> how to I write a floppy image?
[07:44] <distantmsx> congrats
[07:44] <distantmsx> that worked
[07:44] <calamari> jackrazz: I had that whole compiz thing and wasn't very impressed.. slowed things down a lot and had some weird quirks
[07:44] <erpo> hate-: No idea. I've given up on webcam support in linux. Most of the time, a webcam requires a driver. Getting a driver working in linux, especially an unpopular one, is an exercise in futility.
[07:44] <distantmsx> my bro upgraded his box for dualcore/overclocking purposes - only prob was had to recover a crashed disk w/ mostly ned hardware.
[07:44] <calamari> but it was fun to play with :)
[07:44] <hintswen> hey, how do i get something through the console that i'd normally get through the package manager thing?
[07:45] <jackrazz> ok, I'm using the instructions from here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[07:45] <cwillu> hintswen: apt-get install <package name>
[07:45] <narfmaster> hintswen, apt-get / aptitude install
[07:45] <jackrazz> I saw compiz, but I want that spinning cube!
[07:45] <hintswen> and if i don't know the esact name?
[07:45] <rob138> can someone explain how to fix this error when i am trying to "make" : makefile:23: *** missing separator (did you mean TAB instead of 8 spaces?).  Stop.
[07:45] <cwillu> aptitude
[07:45] <calamari> hintswen: apt-cache search <name>
[07:45] <hintswen> thx
[07:46] <erpo> jackrazz: Try 3ddesk. It's a lot less painful than getting a composite manager running.
[07:46] <jackrazz> does geset-compiz work with xgl?
[07:46] <jackrazz> erpo, thats not a bad idea..
[07:46] <hintswen> -bash: apt-cache: command not found
[07:46] <cwillu> is there a nice clean gui for writing floppy images?
[07:47] <jackrazz> rob138, broken script?
[07:47] <erpo> cwillu: Not to my knowledge. Use dd if=/path/to/image of=/dev/fd0 from the command line.
[07:47] <rob138> !pastebin
[07:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:47] <jackrazz> cwillu how about right-clicking the floppy in nautilus and clicking format..
[07:48] <Esers> Has anyone tried to update to 6.06 from cd?
[07:48] <jackrazz> that's what I did
[07:48] <calamari> hintswen: that's odd.. it's part of the apt package
[07:48] <cwillu> it's under format? thanks
[07:48] <erpo> Esers: I did. It broke my installation.
[07:48] <hintswen> which means absolutly nothing to me
[07:48] <Esers> :(
[07:48] <erpo> Esers: I wiped and reinstalled. That worked fine.
[07:48] <Esers> Yeah
[07:48] <calamari> hintswen: ls -l /usr/bin/apt-cache
[07:48] <Shizboom> i didn't relize people still used floppys :P
[07:48] <rob138> jackrazz, and anyone else, is there something wrong in this makefile script that i have copied? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17520
[07:48] <Esers> But that somehow sucks :) You can update from internet, but from a cd
[07:48] <Esers> NOP
[07:49] <calamari> hintswen: does that command show a file?
[07:49] <cwillu> Shizboom: network boot on machines with no net-bootable bios
[07:49] <Shizboom> i haven't even had a floppy installed on my computer in like 7 years i dont think ;x
[07:49] <hintswen> no, it just gives the error
[07:49] <jackrazz> rob, I'm a newbie myself, but I'll look.
[07:49] <hintswen> oh, didn't see command 1 sec
[07:49] <[Nige] > !mplayer
[07:49] <cwillu> Shizboom: to say nothing of the 4 am phone call I got this morning when somebodies floppy was corrupt (grrrr)
[07:49] <ubotu> No fonts in mplayer? Install mplayer fonts. Codecs: see !codecs
[07:49] <Shizboom> lol
[07:49] <Shizboom> and thats the main reason why i dont use them
[07:49] <hintswen> ls: /usr/bin/apt-cache: No such file or directory
[07:49] <Shizboom> they are terrible
[07:49] <jackrazz> rob, do you have everything installed to properly compile
[07:50] <cwillu> no dice under format :/
[07:50] <Shizboom> if i want to transfer around data ill send it to myself or host it somewhere i can access
[07:50] <ToHellWithGA> i'm trying to use privoxy and tor
[07:50] <hintswen> oh sorry i'm stupid, was pasting it in wrong console
[07:50] <jackrazz> oh, he wants a faster compiz(:
[07:50] <ToHellWithGA> is anybody here familiar with setting up privoxy and tor?
[07:51] <erpo> Shizboom: Except that they were ubiquitous before a people decided they weren't necessary anymore. Now if you want to carry data around to other computers you have to have a usb memory stick and cd drive. If you want to carry data back, forget about it.
[07:51] <jackrazz> humm, I think I saw some how-to's at freedesktop or something like that.  The orignal link was at novells xgl site.
[07:51] <jackrazz> It looked good, on a wiki i think
[07:51] <hintswen> E: Invalid operation libpoe-component-irc-perl
[07:52] <erpo> hintswen: Did you remember to type install after apt-get?
[07:52] <Shizboom> who carries data anyway :P
[07:52] <Desh> How do I see how many monitors my laptop is set up to use, B/c fglrx will not work and I think it is b/c it thinks I have 2 monitors since ATI Control Panel lets me adjust settings for 2 screens.
[07:52] <calamari> hintswen: is that when running apt-cache ?
[07:52] <Shizboom> i just store it on ftps or email servers
[07:52] <hintswen> huh?
[07:52] <Shizboom> every computer has internet access that i use :D
[07:53] <erpo> Shizboom: What if you want to carry a megabyte to a computer that's not connected to the internet, or that has a 28.8 modem only.
[07:53] <hintswen> i typed apt-cache search POE and got libpoe-component-irc-perl, then typed apt-get libpoe-component-irc-perl
[07:53] <erpo> hintswen: You need apt-get install libpoe....
[07:53] <hintswen> aah, i gotta be in root
[07:53] <hintswen> so much for me being root!
[07:53] <Shizboom> i don't deal with that sort of stuff so i can sleep better at night in my perfect world :D
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> you need to type sudo apt-get install libpoe-component-irc-perl
[07:54] <Desh> Shizboom: What is your ISP dies?
[07:54] <Desh> *if
[07:54] <Desh> :-O
[07:54] <Shizboom> ill be shit out of luck :D
[07:54] <hintswen> omg, i don't think i know my root password
[07:54] <Desh> >_<
[07:55] <Shizboom> if something is that critical that i can't afford not to have it ill burn it onto a cd
[07:55] <jackrazz> I installed GoogleEarth using sudo when it didn't need it...didn't even know that programs don't always need root to install.
[07:55] <Desh> hintswen: SHould be your normal pass
[07:55] <hintswen> oh, lol
[07:55] <jackrazz> what, you didn't use the same one omg..
[07:55] <Desh> hintswen: you san use sudo pswd <user> to change passwords.
[07:55] <hintswen> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:55] <hintswen> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[07:56] <natecull> you don't need your root password as long as you can 'sudo', do you?
[07:56] <Desh> hintswen: Close adept?
[07:56] <hintswen> ?
[07:56] <Desh> hintswen: ew synaptic
[07:56] <YtseJam> blechs, when I boot from the Ubuntu LiveCD, I get a sort of a DOS prompt instead of a pert GUI(?). What am I doing wrong?
[07:56] <Desh> *er
[07:56] <rob138> for some reason whenever i open a terminal, it's base directory isn't ~ but something else, how do i revert it?
[07:56] <YtseJam> pretty*
[07:56] <natecull> YtseJam: What messages are you getting?
[07:56] <indieross> hello im having a problem with my screen resoultion can anyone help me
[07:56] <Shizboom> rob138 - cd ~ ?
[07:56] <hintswen> you lost me, sorry i'm a total newbie
[07:57] <YtseJam> Nothing. Just some sort of a DOS prompt
[07:57] <bll3r87> hello
[07:57] <jackrazz> when I drag a link from firefox to the desktop, it always adds 'link to' to the filename - is there a way to get rid of that?
[07:57] <rob138> Shizboom, but everytime i open terminal it opens in the other directory
[07:57] <indieross> it wont let me set it to 1280 x 1024
[07:57] <bll3r87> how is everyone going
[07:57] <YtseJam> natecull, well there's more but I'll have to boot again to see
[07:57] <Shizboom> ahh no clue on that :P
[07:57] <Desh> rob38: I dunno about the Ubuntu one but on Kubuntu you go to the options menu and leave the 'Directory' field blank.
[07:57] <natecull> YtseJam: It's more likely to be a Linux (bash) shell prompt rather than DOS - does it show a '#' prompt?
[07:57] <spades> rob138 which dir does it open?
[07:57] <redblades> Hi, I'm trying to get DDclient working, but having quite a few issues.
[07:57] <YtseJam> But in essence, it's a DOS prompt
[07:57] <jackrazz> YtseJam, did you try the livecd option?
[07:57] <bll3r87> can someone help me out real quick please. . . im having a problem connecting to the internet
[07:57] <redblades> I'm behind a router (with a firewall
[07:57] <rob138> spades /usr/lib
[07:57] <YtseJam> jackrazz, what livecd option?
[07:57] <natecull> YtseJam: possibly this means that it failed to enable X, the GUI system
[07:58] <rob138> spades, just some directory i was in while trying different commands on the keyboard, and accidently set it i think
[07:58] <distantmsx> hey guys, nvidia-zgl didnt work. its an older card, a geforce 2. know any repository carrying an nvidia driver supporting an amd/linux?
[07:58] <YtseJam> I downloaded the Desktop CD version ("LiveCD").
[07:58] <jackrazz> your trying to install ubuntu from a cd?
[07:58] <distantmsx> xgl*
[07:58] <spades> rob138 see if you can edit how it starts
[07:58] <Desh> :( No matter what I do mesa3d serves as my opengl. :(
[07:58] <redblades> Anyone here using DDclient?
[07:58] <YtseJam> natecull, okay, what can be done
[07:58] <YtseJam> ?
[07:58] <narfmaster> distantmsx, try nvidia-glx-legacy
[07:58] <Desh> rob138: I dunno about the Ubuntu one but on Kubuntu you go to the options menu and leave the 'Directory' field blank.
[07:58] <YtseJam> BTW, I can dir/w there and I see all sorts of files, even a readme.txt, but it won't open
[07:58] <distantmsx> thx
[07:58] <bll3r87> could someone help me out please, i just have a quick question
[07:59] <natecull> YtseJam: oh, huh
[07:59] <natecull> YtseJam: does 'ls' work or give an error?
[07:59] <Desh> bll3r87: Istate the question. :)
[07:59] <YtseJam> Damn I'll have to boot
[07:59] <jackrazz> distant, try going here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[07:59] <YtseJam> Okay, I'll IRC from the other box and boot this one
[07:59] <YtseJam> bbs
[07:59] <natecull> YtseJam: ok
[07:59] <jackrazz> there is some stuff on what to do for legacy
[07:59] <Desh> bll3r87: That way people will know if they can answer.
[07:59] <rob138> spades,  well now everytime i open a terminal, it opens from the last used directory from closing
[07:59] <jackrazz> a separate link on supported hardware
[07:59] <distantmsx> k
[08:00] <bll3r87> oh sorry Desh, well here is my problem, i just had the internet working and all of a sudden it stopped, but GAIM still connects
[08:00] <bll3r87> it doesnt make sence to me
[08:00] <bll3r87> firefox displays an unable to connect message
[08:00] <bll3r87> and the system packages section wont connect, but Gaim does
[08:00] <Desh> bll3r87: What type of connection, wireless, ethernet, etc.
[08:00] <DaveyJ> umount: /media/usbdisk: device is busy\
[08:00] <bll3r87> wireless
[08:00] <DaveyJ> the directory isnt open
[08:00] <bll3r87> i had everything set up, but out of no where it stoped
[08:00] <bll3r87> i was on the internet, i downloaded the flash player, everything worked fine
[08:00] <jackrazz> you dont have firewire or some firewall installed?
[08:00] <Desh> Hmm, the signal may be bad, have you tried rebooting and reconnectiong? Or getting closer to the access point?
[08:01] <bll3r87> yea
[08:01] <bll3r87> i tried a bunch
[08:01] <bll3r87> ive been using ubuntu for awhile now
[08:01] <jackrazz> backups can be a lifesave when learning(:
[08:01] <bll3r87> never gave me no problems
[08:01] <spades> rob138 go to edit> current profile>title and commands> last thing there should have options when exiting, what is yours set to?
[08:01] <winman> how do I know which driver is being used for X?
[08:01] <Desh> bll3r87, type "iwconfig" at a command promt and put it on pastebin
[08:02] <Desh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17386
[08:02] <bll3r87> well im actually on my laptop right now
[08:02] <bll3r87> do you have AIM?
[08:02] <Desh> yeah.
[08:02] <rob138> spades: Exit the Terminal
[08:02] <jackrazz> try 'top' from a command line and see if it tells you what progs are running
[08:02] <jackrazz> may not tell you libs though
[08:03] <calamari> when I go to the Gnome menu and choose Quit then Shut Down, it logs out instead of shutting down.  Any idea what might be wrong?
[08:04] <indieross> so does anyone know how to fix screen resolution issues?
[08:05] <jackrazz> indierooss, what kind of monitor
[08:05] <fyrestrtr> !resolution
[08:05] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:05] <jackrazz> the ubuntu wiki has some good info on xorg.config
[08:05] <YtseJam> Hrm
[08:05] <Desh> How do I disable a 2nd monitor? In the system settings I can see a 2nd monitor options even tho I dont have one.
[08:05] <natecull> another useful command for X is: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:06] <natecull> this will redetect your monitor settings
[08:06] <indieross> thanks ubotu
[08:06] <YtseJam> natecull, ls does nothing. Also: DPMS Protected DOS Mode / Caldera DR-DOS, what the heck...
[08:06] <YtseJam> And BTW, I can't use the other box, err. :)
[08:06] <natecull> YtseJam: cool, it really is DOS. Weird
[08:07] <rob138> spades: Exit the Terminal
[08:07] <jackrazz> i'll be back in a bit. gonna see if nvidia-glx is showing its screen at bootup.
[08:07] <YtseJam> I got the Desktop CD .iso, burned it and made sure its bootable...
[08:07] <YtseJam> And I get DOS. hah.
[08:07] <natecull> YtseJam: It's possible it's using DR-DOS to boot, so it can launch Linux from DOS the same way whether you start in Windows or on bare metal
[08:08] <natecull> weird that it's not getting to launching the Linux bit though
[08:08] <HackerX2> Can i run Photoshop CS2 In wine?
[08:08] <YtseJam> I see it scans for devices and finds the partitions I have, but it stops with the DOS prompt.
[08:09] <mikere> I think I'll wait till everything installs and configures itself correctly before using xgl
[08:09] <Madpilot> YtseJam, that's probably a Linux command prompt rather than a DOS prompt, just to be accurate
[08:09] <efox> hey
[08:09] <Atimetion> ...
[08:09] <efox> how do i cp the contents of a folder OUT of the folder ?
[08:09] <Xen> can someone help me? my gnome desktop wallpaper and icons won't load, right clicking on blank desktop will not work.. help quick please
[08:09] <HackerX2> ?
[08:09] <efox> when i try the cp command, it copies the entire folder
[08:09] <YtseJam> maddler, dir/w also works in Linux command prompts?
[08:09] <YtseJam> err
[08:09] <YtseJam> Madpilot
[08:10] <Madpilot> YtseJam, try "ls" for listing files
[08:10] <mnemone> efox, cp $PATH/folder/* $DEST
[08:10] <YtseJam> Madpilot, I tried. nothing.
[08:10] <Xen> can someone help me? my gnome desktop wallpaper and icons won't load, right clicking on blank desktop will not work.. help quick please
[08:10] <efox> mnemone: thanks
[08:10] <top222> YtseJam: ls is the same as dir /w
[08:11] <top222> YtseJam: ls -l  is more like your ordinary dir
[08:11] <HackerX2_> Will PhotoShop CS2 Work With Wine?
[08:11] <YtseJam> top222, I know... :) I meant that not as a question to show Madpilot that it's not a Linux command prompt. :)
[08:11] <YtseJam> I guess I was misunderstood.
[08:11] <top222> YtseJam: My bad.  It's morning here and I just woke up.
[08:11] <YtseJam> Same here.
[08:12] <YtseJam> 09:11
[08:12] <spades> rob138 im not sure why its doing that, can you find what its calling to start the terminal and see if there is anything wrong with it?
[08:12] <Madpilot> YtseJam, how did you manage to get to a DOS prompt during a Linux install? (or have I misunderstood how you got there?)
[08:12] <rob138> spades, what does that mean?
[08:12] <spades> how are you starting the terminal?
[08:12] <rob138> spades, ctrl-alt-t , or gnome-terminal
[08:13] <YtseJam> Madpilot, I'm trying Ubuntu 6.06's Desktop CD ("LiveCD"). After boot I got a Caldera DR-DOS prompt instead of having something, a GUI, to load...
[08:13] <top222> I have 3 OSes in my Thinkpad.  Two linuxes (one is Ubuntu) and MS-DOS (did not do much with it, but intended to use it to flash the BIOS)
[08:13] <HackerX2_> ** Is there anyway to get Kistmet to work with Ndiswrapper? **
[08:13] <YtseJam> it seems like your regular [win]  DOS prompt...
[08:13] <fyrestrtr> YtseJam: what current OS do you run on your machine?
[08:13] <YtseJam> XP
[08:13] <Madpilot> YtseJam, that's a neat trick... is this a burned CD or a pressed ShipIt one?>
[08:14] <spades> rob138 hmm, well i dont know, sorry, try posting it on the forums maybe?
[08:14] <natecull> d'oh, this is taking longer than I figured
[08:14] <YtseJam> Madpilot, burned .iso.
[08:14] <rob138> spades, okay, thanks  : )
[08:14] <natecull> got to dismantle a box to get the CD out...
[08:14] <YtseJam> heh
[08:15] <narfmaster> YtseJam, type help help
[08:15] <Madpilot> YtseJam, when you first stick the LiveCd in, one of the options is "Check This CD" - try that
[08:15] <tobias_> Hello! I have problems with my Plextor SATA DVD under Dapper. Every 4 s I got a lot of error messages as long no DVD is in the drive.
[08:15] <YtseJam> Madpilot, I get nothing like that.
[08:16] <YtseJam> It just boots from the CD, scans my system (or so I believe) and then I get the DOS prompt.
[08:16] <tobias_> Someone can help?
[08:16] <Madpilot> YtseJam, you should get a short menu, "Run Ubuntu" at the top, and a couple of other options
[08:16] <YtseJam> Madpilot, should.
[08:16] <jarrett> Can someone help me, my nvidia drivers appear to be installed correctly, but when i run "glxinfo | grep direct" i get "direct rendering: No"
[08:17] <Madpilot> YtseJam, either you've got a bad burn, or a bad ISO download
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> jarrett: how do you know they are installed correctly?
[08:17] <YtseJam> http://www.initworld.com/ubuntu/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[08:17] <YtseJam> ^ that's the one I downloaded.
i see the nvidia logo when i boot?
[08:18] <YtseJam> sigh
[08:18] <YtseJam> So where's the torrent for the LiveCD version? I'll download again *grumble*
[08:18] <Madpilot> YtseJam, did you run md5sum on the ISO after you downloaded it?
[08:18] <fyrestrtr> jarrett: when you boot, or when gdm starts?
[08:18] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> doesn anyone know how to change the directory in which the update-alternatives --config java looks for available java clients?
[08:18] <YtseJam> Madpilot, no.
[08:18] <fyrestrtr> YtseJam: try a direct (non-torrent) download
[08:18] <Madpilot> YtseJam, Desktop = LiveCD for Dapper
[08:18] <timalot> can some one point me to some docs about how to create a deb package out of NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8762-pkg1.run, i have the kernel source + build tools
[08:19] <YtseJam> Madpilot, yeah I know (there really should be 1 name for it. ;))
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> YtseJam: and also, burn it on a 700 MB blank, not a 650 MB one. Try it from here http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[08:19] <YtseJam> Yes, I burned it on a 700MB CD...
[08:19] <Madpilot> YtseJam, it used to be called LiveCD, now it's just Desktop - it's a new name for Dapper, so people are still using the old one, just to confuse everyone
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> YtseJam: check the checksum before you burn the file.
umm, im not sure, im a noob, it displays when the first graphical stuff starts to display, right before the login screed i think, also when i press shitf+backspace to restart x it displays
[08:20] <YtseJam> 260kbps, nice.
i installed the nvidia drivers using the BUMPS utility http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=143
[08:21] <firebird611> Do I need any packages installed before being able to install .bin files?
[08:22] <natecull> seems to be booting using isolinux
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> jarrett: don't know what the BUMPS utility is, but you can easily verify that you are using the nvidia drivers or not. First, type this grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> jarrett: you should get one line - Driver  "nvidia"
[08:22] <Zob> I cant seem to download mozilla-mplayer
[08:23] <juice> anyone out there?
[08:23] <narfmaster> Zob, it should be in multiverse
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> !anyone
[08:23] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:23] <jarrett> grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf i do get that line, but i also get two lines before it, # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig # nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder3)  Wed Mar 29 14:43:26 PST
[08:23] <juice> is it possible to have an extended desktop?
[08:23] <Zob> I enabled multiverse..
[08:23] <Zob> it shows the icon
[08:23] <Zob> but I can not click it..
[08:23] <Zob> nore install it
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> jarrett: okay, no problem. Are you using anything like XGL?
[08:24] <HackerX2_> Zob refresh
yes, i am, but not currently because the program i want the direct rendering for is steam in wine
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> jarrett: okay, what do you get with this glxinfo | grep vendor
server glx vendor string: SGI client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[08:26] <fyrestrtr> jarrett: seems you are running xgl.
[08:26] <Zob> I have refreshed... it says this item is not currently installable.. it says to enable the multiverse, but I have already.
[08:26] <Zob> so im not sure why its not working.
i disabled it in the startup sessions thing, im seeing no eyecandy curently
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> jarrett: I think you are running the xserver-xgl version, not the plain version -- which is why your server vendor is sgi and client is nvidia (which is what I get on my xgl desktop)
[08:28] <HackerX> Zob, to honest i have no clue with out seeing it i cant tell ya
[08:28] <Zob> alright. :P Can always just download the video files and play them.
[08:28] <fyrestrtr> Zob: close synaptic out, and from a terminal type 'sudo apt-get update' then type 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-player'
[08:29] <HackerX> Zob, What are you trying to do?
sorry, that is kind of confusing to me, all i know is im using the http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ repos, but xgl isnt currently active i dont think
[08:30] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> does anyone know how to change the directory in which the update-alternatives --config java looks for available java clients?
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> jarrett: okay let me try to explain it. When you install compiz, you actually change the x server that you are running -- which I think kills direct rendering. If you revert back to the 'normal' x server, you will get direct rendering.
[08:30] <Zob> pinkman@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get mozilla-player
[08:30] <Zob> E: Invalid operation mozilla-player
[08:30] <Zob> pinkman@ubuntu:~$
[08:30] <HackerX> Are you trying to play embeded windows media player files in firefox?
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> Zob: that's not what I wrote, is it?
[08:30] <Zob> hmm hol dup
[08:30] <akant> does any here use FWD?  Are there any fun numbers one can call just for the hell of it? ....which play music ..etc?
[08:31] <akant> shrug
 how would i convert back to normal x server, and would i still be able to use xgl when i didnt want to play my games?
[08:31] <akant> I would think there would be alot of this
[08:31] <Zob> pinkman@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install mozilla-player
[08:31] <Zob> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:31] <Zob> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:31] <narfmaster> Zob, you need to quit out of whatever is using apt
[08:31] <burepe> anyone know how to install flash in firefox.  I got an error when I  tried in firefox.
[08:32] <gonniff> morning!
[08:32] <bll3r87> burepe there is a system package for that
[08:32] <Zob> pinkman@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install mozilla-player
[08:32] <Zob> Reading package lists... Done
[08:32] <Zob> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:32] <Zob> E: Couldn't find package mozilla-player
[08:32] <DBO> mozilla-mplayer
[08:33] <gonniff> Does anyone here regularly use Evolution?
[08:33] <DBO> gonniff, i do
[08:33] <burepe> bll3r87: sweet
[08:33] <burepe> thanks
[08:33] <bll3r87> np
[08:33] <gonniff> Hi, DB0
[08:33] <G> hmmmm, best     way to stop X loading from a ubuntu live cd is.....?
[08:33] <DBO> hi gonniff...  O_o
[08:33] <Ropechoborra> Where is it mounted the webcam?
[08:33] <gonniff> I've just installed and configured it a few days ago, but have noticed I'm having trouble with contacts
[08:34] <gonniff> If I click on the Contacts tab, they display, but not when I click on "To:" when typing a mail
[08:34] <gonniff> I seem to remember this being a problem several years ago under Red Hat
[08:34] <gonniff> Have you ever seen this?
[08:34] <Zob> mozilla-mplayer has been installed, although still not working.
[08:34] <G> 'cuse the random repeated chars, running a live cd in VMWare was my best way to get an irc client
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> gonniff: what kind of server are you connecting to
[08:35] <DBO> gonniff, yes I have, and I am not aware of a fix to be honest
[08:35] <gonniff> fyrestrtr: it's a pop server
[08:35] <Ropechoborra> Where is it mounted the webcam?
[08:35] <gonniff> they're just local contacts
[08:35] <DBO> fyrestrtr, its a local database issue
[08:35] <Zob> alright
[08:35] <Zob> nvm
[08:35] <Zob> its fixed.
[08:35] <gonniff> that's what I was afraid of
[08:35] <zdux0012> I wanted to have the option of xcfe, so I apt-got it. Now, by bootup screen says xubuntu, and is blue.  How can I change this boot up screen back to the original?
[08:35] <Zob> :]  thanks
[08:35] <fyrestrtr> haven't seen this problem on evolution, and I use it everyday at work.
[08:36] <burepe> I have my system in Japanese and the text is weird. Kanji and hiragana are on different plains so it looks messy, not flat and straight
[08:36] <burepe> anyone know anything about this?
[08:36] <gonniff> I've heard of people starting the data server "by hand" and this working (for a while), but don't really want to have to go down that road
[08:36] <juice> does anyone know how to setup an extended desktop onto a tv?
[08:36] <hanasaki> anyone give me a hand setting up coda?
[08:36] <gonniff> fyrestrtr: how did you add your contacts?
[08:36] <gonniff> Did you pick them up from incoming mails or set them up from scratch?
[08:36] <Zob> How would I install winrar? Or a rar archive.. to uncompress rar files?
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> gonniff: they are being fetched from the server directly, and when I type them in, it looks them up. Also, when I hit 'To:' it lists them.
 do you know how to revert back to the normal x server?
[08:37] <DBO> Zob, sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[08:37] <Madpilot> Zob, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[08:38] <n00b> Anybody successfully installed tovid on dapper?
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> jarrett: yes, but I think there is a way to get direct rendering running with the xgl server -- atleast I read something to that effect. Try searching the gentoo-wiki
[08:39] <gonniff> I just added a contact by hand and it displays that, but not the ones I've added via incoming mails (i.e. right-click the "From:" field and add address to contacts)
[08:39] <jackrazz> while on the topic of rar...7zip only comes as a command, the windowsXP 7zip gui program isn't available in linux, right?
[08:40] <rpedro> anyone here installed vmware-player through synaptic?
[08:40] <gonniff> Ha! I think I just worked it out!
[08:40] <gonniff> :)
[08:40] <narfmaster> rpedro, yep
[08:41] <gonniff> If you add contacts from incoming mails, but don't opt to "edit full" and supply a nickname, it won't display in your contacts when clicking on "To:" in a new mail
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> jackrazz: linux has a few alternatives. In ubuntu, you can just double click on an archive and it will open up the gui browser for it.
[08:41] <gonniff> seems a bit funny to me.
[08:41] <rpedro> narfmaster:  I'm getting a load of errors when I run it from console
[08:41] <rpedro> narfmaster: is it working for you?
[08:41] <narfmaster> rpedro, works fine here
[08:41] <Zob> Alright.. RAR works/Streaming Videos Work/Wine works. Now, is there anyone who can guide me through installing a MMORPG?
[08:41] <rpedro> ok, I'll take a look in launchpad...
[08:41] <gonniff> Oh, well. That's that problem solved, I guess. :)
[08:42] <gonniff> Y'all have a good one
[08:43] <Zob> If not.. perhaps adobe photoshop cs2?
[08:43] <Zob> im sure they both work the same way
[08:43] <polpak> Zob: I don't think you can use cs2
[08:43] <polpak> Zob: you can use the gimp though
[08:44] <Zob> What is the gimp?
[08:44] <polpak> Zob: as for the MMO, it depends on which one you want
[08:44] <polpak> Zob: it's like photoshop
[08:44] <Zob> I am tryign to install Korean Ragnarok Online
[08:44] <polpak> Zob: only it's got scriptable plugins and it's free and open source
[08:44] <Zob> I see.
[08:44] <polpak> Zob: first you need wine
[08:45] <Zob> I got wine.
[08:45] <Lynoure> Zob: One nice MMORPG for Linux is A Tale in the Desert. It's non-free, though
[08:45] <polpak> Zob:  http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[08:45] <Zob> Yes, I wanna stick with RO though.
[08:45] <Zob> My windows xp disk, as well as the drive is a mesed up. So was forced to install ubuntu.
[08:46] <Lynoure> RO?
[08:46] <Zob> Ragnarok ONline.
[08:46] <narfmaster> Zob, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=928
[08:48] <felicitas> hallo
[08:49] <felicitas> my sound doesnt work
[08:49] <felicitas> how do i detect the mistake?
[08:49] <linopil> restart PC felicitas then try again
[08:49] <alieas> Hi, I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers on a compiled 2.6.18-rc1 (patched) kernel.  (a driver I require is stock in .18-rc1).  I've tried my standard debian way and the nvidia install with no luck.  can anyone recommend a way to manually install the drivers?  thank you
[08:49] <felicitas> i have
[08:49] <felicitas> twice
[08:49] <rathel> Ubuntu is having a problem with my Battery on my VAIO laptop, when I boot the computer with the battery in it doesn't detect but if I take out the battery and put it back in it works just fine
[08:50] <felicitas> is it todo with nvidia graphic driver?
[08:50] <hintswen> does ubuntu come with a C compiler?
[08:50] <nadeem> hello
[08:50] <linopil> on notif. area there is the speakers icon . anything redc on it?
[08:50] <felicitas> i installed xgl
[08:50] <Zob> Hmm.. how do I download "http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=928"?
[08:50] <felicitas> but i am here with gnome
[08:50] <nadeem> i have installed it now
[08:50] <nadeem> ok
[08:50] <Zob> Dont see a download anywhere..
[08:50] <linopil> gnome is ok
[08:50] <felicitas> yes
[08:50] <narfmaster> Zob, that is info about RO
[08:50] <nadeem> i can work in gnome
[08:50] <Zob> I see.
[08:50] <felicitas> is speakers icon
[08:50] <nadeem> RO is cool
[08:50] <linopil> anything red on speakers icon?
[08:51] <Zob> I know what RO is.
[08:51] <Zob> o.O
[08:51] <felicitas> no
[08:51] <Zob> Need to know how to use it.
[08:51] <Zob> in linux
[08:51] <nadeem> no
[08:51] <Zob> wine
[08:51] <narfmaster> yes, but making it work with Wine will probably require reading that
[08:51] <nadeem> i know how to use it and how to write the code to make it
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> hintswen: no, but you can get one easily. sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:51] <linopil> click on icon preferences
[08:52] <felicitas> so what could it be?
[08:52] <linopil> try to test it
[08:52] <felicitas> i have
[08:52] <felicitas> no sound comes
[08:52] <hintswen> thanks
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> felicitas: what kind of sound card is it?
[08:52] <felicitas> not even the ubuntu sound
[08:53] <felicitas> onboard
[08:53] <hintswen> fyrestrtr how do i use that compiler?
[08:53] <felicitas> it worked few days ago
[08:53] <linopil> good news
[08:53] <Zob> Can I install it, and someone help me with getting it to run?
[08:53] <fyrestrtr> hintswen: what do you want to compile, just C, or C++ ?
[08:53] <hintswen> C
[08:53] <fyrestrtr> felicitas: what did you do since then?
[08:53] <felicitas> plug in the webcam
[08:53] <linopil> fyrestrtr: not easy to fugure out
[08:54] <felicitas> that works
[08:54] <dbmata> evening folks. Anyone up for helping out with an nvidia driver problem?
[08:54] <felicitas> i bought it yesterday
[08:54] <felicitas> i needed no driver
[08:54] <linopil> in one of my ubuntus sound disappeared and restart brought it back
[08:54] <felicitas> it worked plug and play
[08:54] <hintswen> fyrestrtr, just C
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> hintswen: haven't done it in a while, but it should be gcc file.c, then to run it type ./a.out
[08:54] <felicitas> i hav done that 3 times
[08:55] <hintswen> ok is there a C help room around here somewhere?
[08:55] <polpak> hintswen: ##C
[08:55] <hintswen> ##C
[08:55] <hintswen> oops
[08:55] <felicitas> i try again back in a minute
[08:55] <hintswen> thanks
[08:55] <fyrestrtr> hintswen: they'll probably ask you to rtfm, so be warned.
[08:55] <hintswen> well if i ask for help, i'll be asking for the manual
[08:56] <DAeger> hello..
[08:56] <hintswen> or a tutorial(i'll google first!)
[08:56] <DAeger> I got this ubuntu installed ..
[08:56] <DAeger> but..
 i cant find any kind of workaround for firect rendering and xgl, most sites say its not possible, how do i go about using the normal x session insted of compiz to get direct rendering?
[08:56] <DAeger> how can I get into graphical interface?
[08:56] <blobaugh> does dapper support mp3 playback out of the box?
[08:56] <polpak> !restricted
[08:56] <blobaugh> DAeger: startx
[08:56] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:56] <DAeger> ok
[08:56] <DAeger> brb
[08:56] <dli> DAeger, first, install ubuntu-desktop: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:56] <narfmaster> blobaugh, no
[08:57] <polpak> blobaugh: ^^ read the thing ubotu said
[08:57] <fyrestrtr> jarrett: there is a script floating around on compiz.net that turns it on and off via a click.
[08:57] <blobaugh> bumma
[08:57] <blobaugh> thanks
[08:57] <bcc_> how would i setup the same exact partitions on another drive? is there a way to pipe the output of one instance of fdisk to another one?
[08:57] <ville> well... it worked a bit
[08:57] <CY> hi
[08:57] <ville> but there's only a grey background with this console
ill look it up, thanks for the tip
[08:57] <ville> cant see any icons etc.
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> bcc_: even if here was, that wouldn't get you very far as you would have to actually write the partition information.
[08:58] <dbmata> nvidia, help, anyone?
[08:58] <linopil> guys look
[08:58] <bcc_> fyrestrtr: is there any other way to do it?
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> dbmata: ask a question?
[08:58] <DAeger> so what's the problem*?
[08:58] <bcc_> fyrestrtr: i don't remember the exact numbers i put in for the first drive
[08:58] <linopil> useful command to kill irresponsive firefox
[08:58] <linopil> sudo ps -u yehudit |grep firefox |awk '{print $1}'|xargs kill -9
[08:58] <bcc_> fyrestrtr: and what i get with fdisk -l doesn't seem to help me much
[08:58] <narfmaster> or killall firefox
[08:58] <dli> linopil, why not simply: pkiil -9 firefox-bin
[08:58] <dbmata> well, my previous asked question was if anyone could help with an nvidia install problem. The issue at hand is that xorg.conf doesn't seem to recognize my card.
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> bcc_: what do you mean by numbers?
[08:59] <bcc_> fyrestrtr: for the partition sizes
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> dbmata: what kind of card is it?
[08:59] <bcc_> fyrestrtr: it's for a raid. one drive failed and i'm replacing it, but i don't remember the exact sizes
[08:59] <linopil> sudo ps -u <username> |grep <procname_pattern> |awk '{print $1}'|xargs kill -9
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> bcc_: ah, sorry. Don't know much about raid and linux.
[09:00] <bcc_> it's about fdisk
[09:00] <bcc_> not raid
[09:00] <linopil> question is how to make short interactive script to not type everytime
[09:00] <dbmata> fyrestartr: XFX Nvidia 7800 GTX. (NVIDIA Settings in my applications panel sees and views it correctly.) In xorg.conf it's listed as a NVidia default
[09:00] <dli> linopil, man pkill
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> bcc_: are the partitions you want to copy mounted?
[09:00] <dbmata> bcc_: what's your question about fdisk?
[09:00] <bcc_> fyrestrtr: not on the new drive
[09:00] <J-_> is it possible to make a script to delete temp files weekly? If so, where can i find out how to do so?
[09:00] <LGKeiz> is it possible to run Ubuntu on Vmware? :P
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> dbmata: what driver line do you have?
[09:00] <linopil> dli 10x
[09:01] <fyrestrtr> LGKeiz: yes.
[09:01] <bcc_> dbmata: i have two drives and i need to re-created the same exact parititions on the second drive as i have on the first one
[09:01] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> does anyone know how to change the directory in which the update-alternatives --config java looks for available java clients?
[09:01] <bcc_> not the data, just the partitions
[09:01] <dibblego> what printer can I buy that I don't have to fart around with to get it working?
[09:01] <fyrestrtr> J-_: I believe the system does that automatically for you, at an interval. But if you want to do it manually (don't recommend it), just write a script at add it to the weekly crontab.
[09:01] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> how can i get the sudo update-alternatives to rescan the folders for java installations?
[09:01] <dbmata> fyrestrtr: I'm sorry, driver line? How can I find that? (I just installed it like 10 minutes ago using apt-get
[09:01] <dli> dibblego, hp printers are well supported
[09:02] <dibblego> dli, ok cheers
[09:02] <J-_> ah crap. i deleted all my temp files tonight.. i hope i didn't screw anything up
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> dbmata: type grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf from a terminal.
[09:02] <dbmata> bcc_: can you do it by hand? Just write down the partitions you have and do it by hand in fdisk?
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> J-_: probably not, unless you were downloading something to them :)
[09:02] <J-_> kk, thanks dude
[09:02] <bobby> i need help with a c compiler
[09:03] <bcc_> dbmata: yep, it shows 76180198+ blocks for the first partition.
[09:03] <bcc_> what do i put in when i'm creating it by hand?
[09:03] <polpak> bobby: what kind of help?
[09:03] <ville> how can I run Gnome?
[09:03] <dli> ville, install ubuntu-desktop
[09:03] <polpak> ville: you in kde now?
[09:03] <Zob> " open your config file for wine in yer favorite text editor. " where is the config file located?
[09:03] <ville> nope
[09:03] <bobby> i made a program in c and i need to compile it so i can run it how do i do that
[09:03] <ville> I dont have anything
[09:03] <ville> just this console
[09:04] <dli> ville, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:04] <ville> I installed this and this wont go anywhere else
[09:04] <polpak> ville: sudo apt-get install gdm ubuntu-desktop
[09:04] <frogzoo> ville: did you do the desktop install?
[09:04] <dbmata> bcc_: Hmm, I'm very familiar with using fdisk in windows, but not even sure if it's in linux... will fdisk let you do it?
[09:04] <carrus85> q: I'm using a vt6122 gigabit lan card that detects, but doesn't work with ubuntu (host unreachable errors.)  Anyway, I'm trying to download and compile the velocity linux driver, but it appears that I have no compiler set up directly from a live cd install.  Any suggestions on how to get gcc/make and the like on the machine (keeping in mind it is without internet connection)?
[09:04] <ville> how can I type in to console without quitting this irssi
[09:04] <dli> ville, after that, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:04] <dbmata> fyrestrtr: I'm assuming you just want the video driver, it's listed as "nvidia"
[09:04] <polpak> ville: ctrl-alt-f2
[09:04] <J-_> open another console up? lol
[09:04] <firebird611> Do I need any packages installed before I can install a .bin file?
[09:04] <polpak> ville: ctrl-alt-f1 to get back here
[09:04] <bimberi> bobby: install the build-essential package, it brings in the C compiler (gcc) and some other goodies
[09:04] <frogzoo> ville: there's other consoles on ctrl alt f1-f6
[09:05] <ville> and command was apt-get something..
[09:05] <bcc_> nevermind. thanks.
[09:05] <bobby> thanks
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> dbmata: glxinfo doesn't show direct rendering?
[09:05] <frogzoo> ville: did you do the desktop install?
[09:05] <ville> what was that command again?
[09:05] <Zob> " open your config file for wine in yer favorite text editor. " Where is the config file?
[09:05] <ville> frogzoo I think I did
[09:05] <dbmata> bcc_: Sorry man.
[09:05] <bimberi> !away > Rope|0ff
[09:05] <frogzoo> !fixres > ville
[09:05] <frogzoo> ville: probly you just need to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[09:05] <bimberi> Zob: ~/.wine usually
[09:05] <dbmata> fyrestrtr: would I run grep nvidia-glx-glxinfo ?
[09:06] <bimberi> Zob: in the ~/.wine directory that is
[09:06] <ville_> agh
[09:06] <frogzoo> Zob: run 'winecfg' - there's no config file these days - it's all in the registry
[09:06] <ville_> what did I have to dload with apt-get?
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> dbmata: glxinfo | grep direct
[09:06] <J-_> scoll up...
[09:06] <polpak> ville: sudo apt-get install gdm ubuntu-desktop
[09:06] <Ropechoborra> Ill stay like this then :P
[09:06] <ville_> kk
[09:07] <J-_> -.-
[09:07] <frogzoo> ville: you don't! - it's already installed after the install - just run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[09:07] <frogzoo> do'h!
[09:07] <dbmata> fyrestarter: output of Yes
[09:07] <bimberi> Ropechoborra: thanks :)
[09:07] <ville_> oh fuck this..
[09:07] <frogzoo> ville: you don't! - it's already installed after the install - just run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[09:07] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> is there a way to edit sim links?
[09:07] <bobby> i installed it now what do i do
[09:07] <Zob> "To run in a "false" windowed mode, open your config file for wine in yer favorite text editor. Look for DX_Grab and change it to:
[09:07] <Zob> "DXGrab" = "N""
[09:07] <Sakara|AFKwork> I have downloaded the iso of 6.06 for an i386 how do I get it to install to the hdd every time I try I end up starting a live session
[09:08] <Zob> can I do that in winecfg?
[09:08] <polpak> Zob: yes
[09:08] <ville_> that stupid dpkg says it's interrupted then I do that configure command and it just jamms
[09:08] <frogzoo> Zob: there is no config file - 'winecfg'
[09:08] <polpak> Zob: there's a checkbox for DX grab
[09:08] <dbmata> Sakara: there is a link on the desktop that says install
[09:08] <ville_> It freezes totally when it starts doin somethin to database
[09:08] <Sakunix> thanks dbmata
[09:08] <dbmata> fyrestrtr: output of direct rendering: Yes
[09:09] <bobby> ?
[09:09] <Sakunix> so you install it from the live session?
[09:09] <dbmata> Sakunix: no problem. Yeah.
[09:09] <J-_> good idea indeed
[09:09] <Sakunix> awesomesauce idea that one
[09:09] <carrus85> any ideas anyone?
[09:09] <dbmata> Sakunix: and it will let you do your partitioning, etc all from the live session. Beautiful install process.
[09:09] <YtseJam> Okay, natecull, the new Desktop CD download is now complete.
[09:09] <Sakunix> confused me lol
[09:09] <kizzume> Is there something I need to do to get my system to recognise the command "make", or has compiling software changed since 2003?
[09:09] <bimberi> bobby: ''cc file.c'' but are you following a tutorial of some sort?
[09:09] <Sakunix> I was like dammit I spend an hour dl'n the wrong cd ><
[09:10] <J-_> lol
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> dbmata: then everything is okay
[09:10] <dbmata> Sakunix: took about 15 minutes once I figured out the partitioning, so you should be good. Heh. I'm with you there, I downloaded the 64bit version first.
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> dbmata: you have no problems with your drivers, they are running fine and you are using them.
[09:10] <Zob> where is the check box for "DX_Grab" in winecfg
[09:10] <bobby> yes i am http://www.cprogramming.com/tutorial/lesson1.html
[09:10] <J-_> i was the same way, then i looked around, then questioned myself...
[09:10] <bimberi> bobby: kk :)
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> kizzume: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:10] <frogzoo> Zob: methinks your howto you're reading is over 2 years old
[09:10] <polpak> Zob: on the graphics tab
[09:10] <kizzume> fyrestrtr:  thanks
[09:11] <dbmata> fyrestrtr: ok, then my question changes a bit... I have a two monitor setup, how can I define which monitor should be the default? I read through the tseliot tutorial and it didn't work.
[09:11] <J-_> i went from 6.06 back to breezy for some reason, not sure why...
[09:11] <polpak> Zob: says "Allow directX to stop the mouse leaving the window"
[09:11] <polpak> Zob: it probably isn't even checked by default
[09:11] <frogzoo> J-_: grep -i breezy /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[09:11] <frogzoo> J-_: grep -i breezy /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> dbmata: hrmm, you want dual screen, or extended desktop, or just to turn one off?
[09:11] <J-_> frogzoo: what does that do?
[09:12] <frogzoo> J-_: checks you don't have breezy repos configured
[09:12] <bobby> ok i saved it as test.c i whent to it and clicked it and all i got was the codeing of the progam
[09:12] <J-_> hmm, thought i configured my repos a while back :S
i installed the script, im assuming you were talking about the compiz-start.py one that put an icon on your bar that let you switch to metacity, well when i did switch i ran "glxinfo | grep direct" and still got "direct rendering: No"
[09:12] <dbmata> fyrestrtr: well, if I can't have an extended desktop, I'd like to just use my left monitor, and the only monitor that seems to want to work is my right monitor. (Before I installed the driver, my left monitor worked, an lcd. After installing, the right monitor works, a CRT.)
[09:12] <bobby> program*
[09:13] <J-_> configed them through Synaptic, i think anyway...
[09:13] <linopil> LINUX fedora DISTRO has system-config-hal supplied by NOVELL TO LOOK AT HARDWARE
[09:13] <firebird611> When I try to install a .bin file, it says command not found. What do I need to do to solve this problem?
[09:14] <linopil> What tool for hardware here in ubuntu?
[09:14] <dibblego> firebird611, chmod +x on the file
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> dbmata: lol, okay. You need to setup xinerama. There are a few tutorials around for that. I haven't set it up personally, but its easy. What you do is, you define two monitors in your xorg.conf file, then you define how they are setup, ie, which one is where relative to the other. 'lcd left-of crt' etc. That should be it.
[09:14] <dli> firebird611, you should install via apt (synaptic)
[09:14] <Zob> I installed Ragnarok Online, its not workin though.
[09:14] <Yan> why GLIB not install in my ubuntu ????
[09:14] <frogzoo> J-_: only way synaptic will pick up breezy repos is if you have "breezy" in /etc/apt/sources.list somewhere
[09:14] <Zob> wine: Call from 0x402052 to unimplemented function MFC42.DLL.6478, aborting
[09:14] <Zob> wine: Unimplemented function MFC42.DLL.6478 called at address 0x402052 (thread 0009)
[09:15] <firebird611> dibblego: That fixed it. Thank You
[09:15] <Yan> i have a message error
[09:15] <dbmata> fyrestrtr: hells bells. Ok, since I need to learn how to do this, can you point me at a tutorial or something that does this? I hate taking in channel bandwidth.
[09:15] <frogzoo> Zob: you _might_ have to install native mfc42 - but you'll need a doze license for that
[09:15] <digital_> how do I get the command mkinitrd
[09:15] <digital_> I don't have it
[09:15] <Sakunix> Is it normal for a pc to hang for 5-10 mins on:  Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel.   When starting the live session
[09:16] <dli> Yan, can you paste the error message here ? (if it's one line)
[09:16] <Zob> Hmm. How to get a doze license? How to install that.
[09:16] <Zob> Possible to do it without one?
[09:16] <dli> Sakunix, slow machine?
[09:16] <dbmata> Sakunix: It has to do with how much ram you have. I have 2gb, so the lag is minimal.
[09:16] <Yan> wait because is on my lapto
[09:16] <Sakunix> 512 mb ram
[09:16] <Sakunix> 1800+ Athlon
[09:16] <dbmata> Sakunix: More ram, faster session. The live session runs in the ram.
[09:16] <ville_> ARGH!
[09:17] <ville_> this crap doesnt work
[09:17] <Sakunix> yer I can imagine
[09:17] <Sakunix> how does it set out a swap space?
[09:17] <dbmata> Sakunix: that's why installing is such a good choice... Heh.
[09:17] <Sakunix> can it read file assosiation tables of other operating systems?
[09:17] <ville_> how can I start the gnome
[09:17] <linopil> http://www.alsa-project.org/ unreachable can anyone check for me ?
[09:17] <polpak> Zob:  http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Utilities/Required_Files/MFC_DLLs.html    YMMV though
[09:17] <dbmata> Sakunix: no clue on the swap. As for the file tables, I believe so.
[09:17] <Yan> the message of error is : nothing to be done for all
[09:18] <Sakunix> nice
[09:18] <ville_> how can I start the gnome....
[09:18] <newbuntu> dapper has rocked!     ... for me
[09:18] <firebird611> dli: The program I was trying to install was Google Earth. I did not find that in Synaptic. I just installed Dapper today and haven't added any repos, just uncommented the ones that are in the sources.list file. Are there any that I should add?
[09:18] <Sakunix> yer this would suck to install on this laptop >< hehe 128 mb ram
[09:18] <dbmata> Sakunix: only after install though, I believe. It's basically turned the ram into a virtual drive, and is running out of that.
[09:18] <linopil> ville log off and log on
[09:18] <newbuntu> long live ubuntu
[09:18] <frogzoo> Zob: it's not technically required to have a doze license, it's a copyright issue
[09:18] <linopil> ville_:  ?
[09:18] <ville_> it doesnt work.. linopil
[09:18] <Yan> */home/yan/Desktop/glib/tests it's in this directoty
[09:18] <ville_> This shit just goes to run lvl 2
[09:19] <Sakunix> thats awesome ram hdd drive
[09:19] <linopil> mybe you have to install it
[09:19] <polpak> Zob: you can also install winetools and it helps to install some of this stuff
[09:19] <frogzoo> !language
[09:19] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> dbmata: there are a few floating around, I think one of the best ones is at gentoo-wiki.com -- you can just google it because this part is not ubuntu-specific (ie, the same xorg configuration applies to any linux distro).
[09:19] <newbuntu> anyone here use Archos pma 400 linux portable?
[09:19] <Sakunix> solid state drives are coming man wont be long and yhour whole comptuer will work like that
[09:19] <ville_> and then there's this grey background and small tiny birdshit sized console window
[09:19] <LGKeiz> How would I put Ubuntu on  VMware
[09:19] <LGKeiz> o_o
[09:19] <dli> firebird611, google earth is pretty awful in linux :(
[09:19] <ville_> this ubuntu is just great..
[09:19] <Zob> I downloaded that file, and its installeing "Free Download Manager"?
[09:19] <nomin> is google earth made for linux now?
[09:19] <ville_> crashes before the system has even started..
[09:19] <linopil> LGKeiz:  you are on XP now?
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> nomin: verision 4 is.
[09:20] <Sakunix> yes there is a port for linux
[09:20] <Yan> dli nothing to done indtall - exec- am
[09:20] <newbuntu> yes on google earth
[09:20] <frogzoo> Sakunix: gigabyte's thingo is almost a real solid state drive, just low on capacity
[09:20] <dbmata> Sakunix: I believe solid state has gotten as large as 5GB now. I can't wait for a 200gb solid state.
[09:20] <YtseJam> Godamn boot disc options. Should there be a specific emulation type when I burn the Desktop CD .iso?
[09:20] <newbuntu> works good on ubuntu  ... google earth
[09:20] <linopil> ville_: what install disks have you got?
[09:20] <Yan> and after im try to instal xmms ans ask my to install GLIB
[09:20] <Sakunix> yer dbmata: samsung has a 16 bg drive avaible now.. 6 moths will see it double
[09:20] <ville_> I dunno just this install disc = D
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> YtseJam: what program are you using to burn it?
[09:20] <firebird611> dli: It crashes for me after about five minutes of starting it each time. That is the only problem I have, but it is a big problem because it always crashes right in the middle of using it.
[09:20] <ville_> I ordered this from the website
[09:21] <dbmata> fyrestrtr: Thanks for your help. I'm going to see what I can break... er... setup.
[09:21] <dli> Yan, how do you install xmms?
[09:21] <YtseJam> CDBurnerXP. heh. The first freeware I found. Never in my life has burning an .iso been this diffecult. :P
[09:21] <ville_> How can I start the friggen gnome??
[09:21] <dbmata> Sakunix: Good luck installing if you choose to. Not sure how it will go for you, but for me it took about 15 minutes and almost EVERYTHING was working perfectly. Just had a video hiccup.
[09:21] <PORDO> what do i do if apt-get is listing packages that when i try to remove them, say they aren't actually installed?
[09:21] <linopil> !flashplayer
[09:21] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:22] <polpak> ville_: first you have to get X windows working. Otherwise gnome can't run
[09:22] <polpak> ville_: to do that you need to configure it most likely
[09:22] <ville_> I did that already
[09:22] <YtseJam> fyrestrtr, any idea what should the load segment be?
[09:22] <linopil> !love
[09:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about love
[09:22] <ville_> but I still dont know how to run the gnome ....
[09:22] <Madpilot> ville_, try "startx"
[09:22] <dli> firebird611, ubuntu problem. it doesn't crash on my box
[09:23] <ville_> I tried
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> YtseJam: ermm, never heard of that software, but there is another freeware program -- let me find it for you -- that I know works flawlessly with iso's.
[09:23] <linopil> ville_:  gnome is default in install
[09:23] <newbuntu> opensource and this type of irc linux info-sharing ....    is the exact oposite of the bill gates microsoft/corprate model
[09:23] <linopil> reinstall from alternate
[09:23] <ville_> as I said .. all I get is grey background and tiny console box in the left top corner
[09:23] <linopil> will not ruin system
[09:23] <YtseJam> fyrestrtr, esp. important is that it'll work with the Ubuntu Desktop CD. ;)
[09:23] <ville_> when I do Startx
[09:23] <polpak> ville_: oh, then you're good
[09:23] <timalot> !microsoft
[09:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about microsoft
[09:23] <dbmata> newbuntu: that's why this is a community and windows is just for users.
[09:23] <linopil> do carefully and dont format
[09:23] <polpak> ville_: just install gdm
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> YtseJam: that's what I used it for ;)
[09:23] <polpak> ville_: and ubuntu-desktop
[09:23] <Sakunix> dbmata: Samsung Electronics of South Korea showed a protype laptop computer (a modified Samsung Q30) featuring a 32GB Flash Disk
[09:23] <Yan> with a command ./configure
[09:23] <firebird611> dli: could it be my video card drivers. I have a Nvidia GeForce FX 5200. I haven't updated them at all on Ubuntu.
[09:23] <YtseJam> fyrestrtr, good then. Waiting.
[09:24] <Yan> and GLIB too
[09:24] <ville_> then dpkg freezes totally when I try to install those
[09:24] <newbuntu> I call this..   the "IRC Gods" and when they speak listen... and learn
[09:24] <Sakunix> a 32GB drive has been built not commercially avaible yet
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> YtseJam: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/
[09:24] <ville_> it just jamms to "reinstalling database or something
[09:24] <newbuntu> you will be schooled
[09:24] <polpak> ville_: edit your /etc/apt/sources.lst
[09:24] <dbmata> sakunix: that would take a big key ring to carry about.
[09:24] <ville_> how?
[09:24] <Sakunix> dbmata: I'm sure it would
[09:25] <PORDO> is there a way to refresh what apt-get thinks is installed?
[09:25] <Sakunix> no moving parts though.. cant wait
[09:25] <polpak> ville_: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list rather.. use sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:25] <Sakunix> no power no noise super fast load time
[09:25] <Sakunix> going to kick ass
[09:25] <polpak> ville_: did you do an expert install?
[09:25] <Yan> dli
[09:25] <dli> Yan: maybe, I am too stupid for this, but this is #ubuntu, you should: sudo apt-get install xmms
[09:25] <polpak> ville_: or a minimal or server install?
[09:25] <dbmata> just curious, but is firewire and usb support included in ubuntu?
[09:25] <timalot> PORDO, man dpkg
[09:26] <Sakunix> ok it still says Uncompressing Linux... okm booting the kernel..  Whats it been now 15 mins
[09:26] <ville_> I dont know I just installed eveything it asked during the install
[09:26] <Yan> sorry my english is bad dli i know you not stupid
[09:26] <polpak> dbmata: usb definately. firewire probably (though I don't use it, so I don't know for sure)
[09:26] <Sakunix> 512 mb ram you would think it would load up in 15 mins
[09:26] <dbmata> Sakunix: It will take some time. Enough time to make a bit of tea. which sounds good... I'm off to do that.
[09:26] <ville_> so what should I edit there, polpak?
[09:26] <Sakunix> nice idea..
[09:27] <Sakunix> I think I  am off for a beer with my neighbour
[09:27] <dbmata> polpak: hm, thanks. I just realized it might be fun to use my video camera in ubuntu, and it's a firewire.
[09:27] <J-_> i'm running on 256mb of ram. runs pretty swell for this system :D
[09:27] <dli> Yan, do what I said, sudo apt-get install xmms
[09:27] <Zob> I got the MFC_DLLs and still same error
[09:27] <ville_> so what should I edit there, polpak?
[09:27] <newbuntu> the linux community is inspiring, the choice is yours... stay on windows, learn about exe email viruses ... firewalls, cracked anti-virus programs, pirated everything, serials,cheats, key-gens etc etc, or... learn how to download free linux OS,  free software and a helpful community...
[09:27] <Yan> yes im try and all is ok
[09:27] <spades> Sakunix is this a desktop/laptop or a server motherboard?
[09:27] <frogzoo> !appdb > Zob
[09:27] <Yan> thk very good dli
[09:28] <Yan> it's appreciate
[09:28] <dbmata> sakunix: good luck with the install, you remind me that I have a guinness waiting for me.
[09:28] <polpak> ville_: actually exit it for a sec
[09:28] <frogzoo> Zob: check appdb & maybe then ask in #winehq
[09:28] <ville_> why  =/
[09:28] <dli> Yan you need to read restricted formats
[09:28] <J-_> newbuntu. so damn true...
[09:28] <dli> !restricted formats
[09:28] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:29] <polpak> ville_: cause I'm going to make this easy for you
[09:29] <Yan> dli MP3
[09:29] <ville_> kk
[09:29] <J-_> when i go onto my windows machine, probably won't be able to stand it... but i need windows for my ext. drive =(
[09:30] <dragon> hi
[09:30] <newbuntu> I LOVE the idea of converting X-box's into linux computers,   for all those that cant afford:  http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page
[09:30] <dli> Yan, use synaptic, apt-cache search , apt-file search , packages.ubuntu.com to find your packages
[09:30] <kizzume> Has anyone ever gotten a program called "vice", an emulator, compiled and working?  If so, could someone give me some tips?
[09:30] <Yan> ok thanks
[09:30] <timalot> kizzume, yeah i did i while back
[09:30] <dli> Yan, to clean up your sources.list, ask ubotu about easysource
[09:30] <timalot> a whille i mean
[09:30] <timalot> i cant type
[09:31] <Yan> dli synapstic is a player for mp3 or ????
[09:31] <Yan> sorry for this question with im not sure
[09:31] <timalot> kizzume, it uses gtk 1 not gtk 2 last time i used it
[09:31] <dli> !synaptic
[09:31] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[09:32] <dragon> were do i get "compilers" or compiled programs?
[09:32] <polpak> ville_: once you dl that sources.list file you can replace your current one with sudo cp ./sources.list /etc/apt/.
[09:32] <dli> dragon, you want compiler or compiled?
[09:32] <Yan> dli yes i have this on my ubuntu
[09:32] <digital_> how do I use mkinitramfs
[09:33] <dragon> i have only had linux for about 5 hours
[09:33] <polpak> ville_: then just sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install gdm ubuntu-desktop
[09:33] <dli> Yan, you should use synaptic to manage your packages
[09:33] <asdx> what's the name of the ubuntu metacity theme
[09:33] <dragon> hardcore n00b looking for things to work out lol
[09:33] <Yan> yes
[09:33] <ville_> I download sources.list?
[09:33] <dbmata> will it hose anything if I manually change the name of my nvidia device identifier from the default to the actual card it is? I'd prefer not to have another vi crash course.
[09:33] <dli> digital_, you are building your own kernel?
[09:33] <ville_> then I do that sudo cp ./sources.list /etc/apt
[09:33] <ville_> how can I download that sources.list
[09:34] <timalot> !compilers
[09:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about compilers
[09:34] <polpak> ville_: the wget command I messaged you
[09:34] <dli> digital_, if so, you should use " make-kpkg --initrd kernel-image
[09:34] <digital_> dli: Yup!
[09:34] <Zob> im using the appdb
[09:34] <Zob> ~.`
[09:34] <Zob> ~.~*
[09:34] <newbuntu> I feel its safe to say that beyond a dought Ubuntu Dapper is the best, most stable linux release to set-up a windows/mac convert with. Even first-tme users find ubuntu in KDE easier to use, and superior to windows
[09:34] <fats`> Hey, I've got a question, is this the proper place to ask?
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> dbmata: Identifier is a freeform string. You can call it whatever you want, but remember to change it also in the Device " " line of the Screen section, otherwise X won't start.
[09:34] <dragon> with compiled does that mean i can use them....or i need to make sumtin first?
[09:34] <dli> digital_, of course, you have to enable initrd support in your kernel configuration
[09:34] <Zob> everything thats on there is as somsone pointes out 2 years old
[09:34] <kizzume> Virtually every program I'm wanting does not have a binary version available.  Do I basically have to become a programmer to install software, or what?
[09:34] <polpak> fats`: if it's about ubuntu yes
[09:34] <Zob> so most answeres to problems wouldnt work
[09:34] <fats`> Yeah, it is
[09:35] <Zob> in any case I mainly just see posts of people who couldnt fix it
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> Zob: like what?
[09:35] <polpak> kizzume: not really
[09:35] <digital_> dli: We need to make a new one for our new kernel
[09:35] <polpak> kizzume: but what program for example?
[09:35] <kizzume> polpak:  vice emulator.  Lots of different emulators.
[09:35] <timalot> digital_, if u know what ide/scsi drivers u need and what fs type your / is u dont need initrd
[09:35] <kizzume> polpak:  music tracker programs
[09:35] <fats`> I use VNC and SSH to remote to my box. I want to log out the session from gnome so it doesn't use as much resources, but when I do, I cannot VNC back in unless I restart the box using SSH.. Is it possible to avoid that?
[09:35] <dbmata> fyrestrtr: thanks again. I'm going to trying to get these monitors working.
[09:35] <ville_> umm.. that sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list?
[09:35] <akant> anyone here running Asterisk on Dapper yet?
[09:35] <akant> I have a quick questions
[09:35] <polpak> ville_: no
[09:35] <dli> digital_, however, for most cases, you don't need initrd for your custom kernel
[09:36] <Yan> dli the package apache is a ftp ????
[09:36] <polpak> ville_: join #polpak
[09:36] <digital_> dli: It's asking for one and it won't boot with out it. Kernel panic
[09:36] <dli> Yan, read easysource
[09:36] <Andrivid> I am running Ethereal as root, but save file gets denied writing permissions....why is this?
[09:36] <Yan> k
[09:36] <digital_> dli: We just need to know how to use mkinitramfs
[09:36] <dli> digital_, you build in all drivers for ide/scsi, fs ( root partition)
[09:37] <dli> digital_, make-kpkg --initrd
[09:37] <fats`> Anyone get my question?
[09:37] <digital_> dli: How do I tell it what kernel to build it for?
[09:37] <timalot> dki: will make-kpkg do the initrd stuff for u... ie u dont have to make the image yourself?
[09:37] <newbuntu> is there anything in the works newer than dapper?
[09:37] <timalot> dli sorry
[09:37] <dli> digital_, if you don't even know what is make-kpkg, you need kernel-package
[09:38] <dli> timalot, yes, make-kpkg includes initrd in the .deb
[09:38] <Andrivid> I am running Ethereal as root, but save file gets denied writing permissions....why is this?
[09:38] <digital_> dli: I'm new to ubuntu
[09:38] <dragon> i was just informed that linux is for hackers....
[09:38] <fats`> I use VNC and SSH to remote to my box. I want to log out the session from gnome so it doesn't use as much resources, but when I do, I cannot VNC back in unless I restart the box using SSH.. Is it possible to avoid that?
[09:38] <akant> out of disk space ? ;)
[09:38] <Andrivid> Linux is for Programmers
[09:38] <kizzume> Andrivid:  You got that right.
[09:38] <timalot> dli, oh ok.... makes it easy then
[09:39] <spades> fats` have you tried running startx over ssh on the target machine
[09:39] <dli> digital_, you need to do it the ubuntu (debian) way, instead of " make ", you need " make-kpkg "
[09:39] <fats`> _nano_, I've not spades
[09:39] <fats`> er
[09:39] <frogzoo> Andrivid: that might have been right once, but that's less & less true
[09:39] <fats`> spades, no I've not
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> fats`: your VNC is linked with your X server, when you logout from gnome, you are killing the vnc process, which is why you can't use vnc.
[09:39] <dli> timalot, however, it's quite stupid to use initrd for a specific custom kernel
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> fats`: you can just forward X over SSH (using tunneling) and use an X client on your machine.
[09:40] <digital_> dli: I built a new kernel by hand. Make etc... All that's left is the new initrd
[09:40] <fats`> fyrestrtr, is there a way I can make the vnc process continue running after I logout of gnome
[09:40] <Andrivid> hmm
[09:40] <digital_> dli: That's why i'm in here asking about mkinitramfs
[09:40] <Andrivid> Well, how come Ethereal cant save a capture, even as root?
[09:40] <dli> digital_, then, stop, install kernel package, and make it right
[09:40] <dibblego> how do I list installed files for a given package?
[09:41] <frogzoo> dibblego: dpkg -L blah
[09:41] <frogzoo> dibblego: or man dpkg
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> where blah being the package name
[09:41] <digital_> dli: Wrong! We want to do it by hand
[09:41] <dibblego> ta
[09:42] <digital_> dli: Doing by hand means we can do it for all linux distributions
[09:42] <fats`> fyrestrtr - is there a way I can make the vnc process continue running after I logout of gnome
[09:42] <fats`> maybe using a cronjob?
[09:42] <fats`> to check if it's running, if not, run it?
[09:42] <dli> digital_, okay, good luck
[09:42] <dragon> i need a "linux friend"
[09:42] <dragon> lmao
[09:42] <dli> dragon, just ask
[09:42] <dragon> ok
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> fats`: hrmm, well vnc is for X forwarding, so what would be the point?
[09:44] <dragon> how do i compile a program...id like to download music and play games...i have lime wire and it needs to be "compiled"
[09:44] <kizzume> When I "make", and it comes back with messages saying that certain directories don't exist as the error message, does it mean I have to create every directory that the make file wants in order to "make" it?
[09:44] <fats`> I'm just more accustomed to VNC
[09:44] <fats`> I don't know, it's a comfortability thing
[09:44] <dragon> this means id need a compiler
[09:44] <dbmata> I really find it amusing that my wacom tablet is installed during the ubuntu install process, and it works... when it took about an hour to track down the right driver and get it to take in windows.
[09:45] <bbrazil> dragon: apt-get install build-essential
[09:45] <frogzoo> dragon: usually if you untar the .tgz file, there'll be a README or INSTALL file with instructions
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> fats`: don't know to be honest, I have always just forwarded x using ssh and used it that way (or just used the shell).
[09:45] <bbrazil> kizzume: it means you probably haven't done something right, double check the install instructions
[09:45] <dragon> ok
[09:45] <fats`> Is there a guide on how to forward x via ssh?
[09:45] <fats`> on the wiki or something?
[09:45] <frogzoo> dragon: however, better to use source from the ubuntu repos, or best, binaries from the repos
[09:45] <unstablesob> ssh -X hostname
[09:45] <frogzoo> fats`: happens automaticllay with ssh
[09:45] <bbrazil> fats`: ssh X
[09:45] <unstablesob> there' syour tutorial
[09:46] <fats`> ah
[09:46] <dragon> ...
[09:46] <bbrazil> fats`: should be the default
[09:46] <fats`> lol thanks, I'm only used to using ssh
[09:46] <dli> fats`, at your server side, edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config , enable X11Forwarding
[09:46] <ville_> fuck this I rele dont have anything good to say about linux
[09:46] <ville_> nothing friggin works
[09:46] <newbuntu> one last time (in a fit of nostalgia) , this type of linux community interaction/help is cutting-edge ...  because , in this day and age it is extremely rare to see examples of something that is TOTALLY FREE, complete with people willing to help each other anonmously, with no strings attached, all for the better of the whole linux community. I just wanted to say thank you personally for the 100's of questions ive gotten help with in this room...  cheers ..
[09:46] <newbuntu> .  long live linux ! down with microsoft!
[09:46] <bbrazil> ville_: please watch your language
[09:47] <dbmata> ville_: defeatist attitudes won't get you anywhere.
[09:47] <kizzume> bbrazil: thanks.
[09:47] <ville_> just.. tell me whatta heck is wrong with this friggen dpkg
[09:47] <frogzoo> newbuntu: Communist!!
[09:48] <newbuntu> frogzoo   :)
[09:48] <dli> dbmata, the debian philosophy, we don't care others like debian or not :)
[09:48] <bbrazil> ville_: we can't help you until you tell us your problem
[09:48] <tehgooch> Hey, there are still people awake here.
[09:48] <ville_> I dont know the problem.. that's the friggen thing.. it just jamms to "rebuilding database. this may take a while" when I type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:48] <eigenlambda> of course... tihs in as international channel
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> tehgooch: yeah, considering tis 10:48 AM where I am :)
[09:49] <tehgooch> 12;49AM HERE
[09:49] <newbuntu> i have asked soooo many different questions , and always got the best helpful advice
[09:49] <dbmata> dli: CFO philosophy: I don't care what you think, you already bought my product. ;)
[09:49] <tehgooch> er
[09:49] <tehgooch> here*
[09:49] <benkyoto> 4:49pm here
[09:49] <tehgooch> i always forget about the other countries
[09:49] <ville_> see?
[09:49] <benkyoto> ^o^/ lol ethnocentrism
[09:49] <dli> dbmata, you don't have to buy debian, you can obtain it for free
[09:49] <polpak> ville_: it's doubtful it would lock up.. are you certain it's not just doing what it says and "taking a while" ?
[09:50] <Frogzoo> tehgooch: really? there's other countries?
[09:50] <spades> 3:50am here
[09:50] <Yan> are you kmow a good ftp ssl for linux
[09:50] <tehgooch> lol
[09:50] <ville_> No it's not it did that thing over last night
[09:50] <bbrazil> Yan: client or server?
[09:50] <Frogzoo> tehgooch: you mean like Melbourne?
[09:50] <dbmata> dli: Heh, I know, but as you know, the moment business gets into it, it all becomes billable events. Heh.
[09:50] <ville_> doesnt take that long..
[09:50] <newbuntu> now i got a linux-based handheld with irc capabilities, so I can consult the irc gods anywhere where theres wi-fi   hahha
[09:50] <tehgooch> I've never been to Melbourne.
[09:50] <dli> Yan, ftp ssl? why not use ssh?
[09:50] <Yan> client connect a server
[09:50] <Yan> not sure dli
[09:50] <dbmata> ok, I should knock off, I need to be bright eyed to watch Germany beat Portugal tomorrow.
[09:51] <Frogzoo> tehgooch: you're not missing much lol
[09:51] <bbrazil> Yan: there's a ftp-ssl package
[09:51] <polpak> ville_: well I'm not entirely sure what you even did, since X obviously works.. if you had done a standard install you'd be in gnome already
[09:51] <Yan> bbrazil kk
[09:51] <tehgooch> Come to think of it I've barely left my country.
[09:51] <bbrazil> Yan: ftps clients can be hard to come by
[09:51] <tehgooch> I went to the US once when I was a kid...
[09:51] <dli> Yan, for ftp, you may try gftp  (gui), lftp (cli only). but ssh is much easier
[09:51] <newbuntu> I love the   fish://<username>@ip #     command to connect to your computer remotely
[09:51] <ville_> when I do that apt-get install gdm ubuntu-desktop it says dpkg is interrupted please run that command what I already said
[09:52] <ville_> dpkg --configure -<
[09:52] <ville_> -a
[09:52] <newbuntu> i learned that here
[09:52] <Yan> dli thanks
[09:52] <polpak> ville_: ok, so do that
[09:52] <tehgooch> Well I'm trying to get my Broadcom wireless adapter to work. I am not having much success.
[09:52] <polpak> ville_: and let it finish
[09:52] <bbrazil> newbuntu: isn't fsh a kde thing?
[09:52] <ville_> It wont finish it
[09:52] <polpak> ville_: I don't believe you
[09:52] <newbuntu> well yah ... i use kde
[09:52] <ville_> I left it over night and it was still there'
[09:52] <ville_> that's friggen 10 hours
[09:52] <polpak> ville_: then reinstall
[09:52] <bbrazil> ville_: ltrace it - see what it's up to
[09:53] <ville_> hell no I've installed this shit 10 times with same problems..
[09:53] <dbmata> goodnight folks.
[09:53] <polpak> ville_:  what install cd did you use?
[09:53] <tehgooch> I think I might sleep on it some more.
[09:53] <dbmata> fyrestrtr: thanks for your help tonight. (This morning.)
[09:53] <tehgooch> bye
[09:53] <dli> tehgooch, sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[09:53] <tehgooch> oh ok
[09:53] <ville_> I ordered this from the website
[09:53] <bbrazil> newbuntu: keep in mind a lot of people on here are using gnome :)
[09:53] <tehgooch> i did that before
[09:53] <tehgooch> nothing came up
[09:53] <polpak> ville_: does it say anything on the CD?
[09:53] <tehgooch> then i went to #ubuntu-laptop
[09:53] <newbuntu> even linus torvaldes recommends kde over gnome.. he calls gnome a disease,  for what its worth
[09:53] <dli> tehgooch, sudo iwconfig
[09:53] <ville_> about what?
[09:53] <bbrazil> tehgooch: if it's successful there's no output
[09:53] <tehgooch> oh
[09:54] <zdux0012> after installing xcfe how can I get the old login screen back?
[09:54] <Knome> linus torvalds should stick to the kernel
[09:54] <newbuntu> ... but i respect anyones reasoning for using gnoe
[09:54] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: linus torvalds is entitled to his opinion
[09:54] <newbuntu> gnome
[09:54] <polpak> ville_: on the cd's they mailed you or the packages therein does it say anything about what install it is??
[09:54] <bbrazil> tehgooch: that just means the module is loaded though. look at dmesg for error messages
[09:54] <ville_> it says "install cd - version 5.04 for intel x86
[09:54] <polpak> ville_: good night
[09:54] <polpak> ville_: when did you order it?
[09:54] <tehgooch> ok big paste coming up
[09:54] <ville_> I dun rele remember
[09:54] <ville_> =D
[09:54] <newbuntu> gnome/kde etc  ... all a desktop,
[09:54] <spades> 5.04 is hoary, 2 versions back
[09:54] <polpak> ville_: that's like 2 versions ago
[09:54] <bbrazil> ville_: we're on 6.06 now
[09:54] <Frogzoo> tehgooch: !pastebin
[09:55] <ville_> o great..
[09:55] <Frogzoo> !pastebin
[09:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:55] <polpak> ville_: why not dl a new iso
[09:55] <dli> tehgooch, then, you know your wireless interface
[09:55] <khaije1> hi
[09:55] <dragon> how do i get linux of my pc so i can partition it off
[09:55] <khaije1> what would be the opposite of xargs?
[09:55] <ville_> lol how do you think I'll download it
[09:55] <polpak> ville_: or are you on dial up
[09:55] <bbrazil> khaije1: what are you trying to do?
[09:55] <ville_> nop
[09:55] <polpak> ville_: then you can dl it
[09:55] <ville_> how lol
[09:55] <khaije1> bbrazil: i'd like tol take a list and output it to a line
[09:56] <ville_> how can I burn it to a cd
[09:56] <polpak> ville_: hang on
[09:56] <bbrazil> khaije1: list comands | tr $'\n' ' '
[09:56] <bbrazil> khaije1: or list commands | xargs
[09:56] <bbrazil> khaije1: althoguh th xargs version will split big data onto multipe lines
[09:57] <polpak> ville_: wget http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[09:57] <polpak> ville_: that will get you the ISO
[09:57] <ville_> cant I upgrade this version?
[09:57] <khaije1> bbrazil: thas the thing, i need them all on the same line for piping
[09:57] <bertu> I am trying to download the last updates but it is giving me an error that it failed
[09:57] <bbrazil> khaije1: then use the tr version
[09:57] <polpak> ville_: it'll be a pain, and will take longer than just getting the iso
[09:57] <ville_> kk
[09:57] <bbrazil> khaije1: that replaces newlines with spaces
[09:57] <polpak> ville_: you'll have to upgrade to 5.10 then to 6.06
[09:57] <ville_> can I boot from dvd-rw btw?
[09:57] <bbrazil> ville_: if your hardware supports it
[09:58] <ville_> kk
[09:58] <bertu> hey can someone help me?
[09:58] <polpak> ville_: yes, if you dl that iso and burn a cd of it you can boot (probably)
[09:58] <khaije1> ok i understand, thx bbrazil :-)
[09:58] <fats`> I use VNC and SSH to remote to my box. I want to log out the session from gnome so it doesn't use as much resources, but when I do, I cannot VNC back in unless I restart the box using SSH.. Is it possible to avoid that?
[09:58] <ville_> ah finnish mirror =)
[09:58] <bertu> Hello??????????////
[09:59] <fats`> I know I asked and got an answer, but I want to use VNC and not forward X
[09:59] <tehgooch> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318" Mode:Managed  Frequency=2.484 GHz  Access Point: Invalid Bit Rate=11 Mb/s   Tx-Power=19 dBm RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off Encryption key:off Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[09:59] <tehgooch> It detects as 4318, but it is a 4319
[09:59] <tehgooch> And cannot scan for networks.
[09:59] <ville_> I bet that iso comes in no time
[09:59] <newbuntu> i'm at my girlfriends, and the breezy I setup here works so good, its hard to convince her to move to dapper...  is it best if i do an upgrade to dapper by apt-get dist-upggrade?
[09:59] <tehgooch> any ideas, dli?
[09:59] <polpak> ville_: yeah, I checked where you were from
[09:59] <bertu> CAN SOMEONE HELP?
[09:59] <ville_> o
[09:59] <polpak> !caps
[09:59] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:59] <bertu> ok 10x
[09:59] <bertu> so...can you help me?
[09:59] <polpak> bertu: what's the error
[09:59] <newbuntu> with...
[09:59] <nomin> bertu: don't ask to ask, just ask
[09:59] <tehgooch> Well, thanks for the help so far, dli. I think I will try to get some rest.
[09:59] <Sakunix> ubuntu install process keeps hanging at: Uncompressing Linux... Ok,booting the kernel.     - Anyone with ideas?
[09:59] <dli> tehgooch, ifconfig eth1 up
[10:00] <bertu> W: Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/cupsys/libcupsys2_1.2.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[10:00] <bertu>   404 Not Found
[10:00] <bertu> that error
[10:00] <frogzoo> newbuntu: a fresh install is often best, the upgrade can break
[10:00] <newbuntu> I love being here ...without...  a problem   hahhaha
[10:00] <dli> bertu, apt-get update
[10:00] <newbuntu> thanks frogzoo
[10:00] <polpak> bertu: what version are you running?
[10:00] <bertu> 6.06
[10:00] <polpak> bertu: then apt-get update
[10:00] <ville_> kk now, polpak, how do I burn it then?
[10:00] <spades> Sakunix is this a desktop/laptop or a server motherboard?
[10:00] <Sakunix> desktop i386
[10:01] <newbuntu> best to back-up her shite then
[10:01] <bertu> so what do i write?
[10:01] <bertu> apt-get update and then the name of the update?
[10:01] <polpak> bertu: just sudo apt-get update
[10:01] <polpak> bertu: then try to install the package again
[10:01] <bertu> ok
[10:01] <ville_> how can I burn that thing to the dvd then?
[10:01] <spades> Sakunix anything in the bios regarding serial console redirection?  i know when we do pxe installs over serial console, the local shows uncompressing, ok booting and the rest goes over console, maybe worth checking your bios to see if you got something like that?
[10:02] <cameronbergh> Hey!
[10:02] <Sakunix> no nothing like that I installed breezy on it not 4 weeks ago no problem
[10:02] <cameronbergh> i would just like to thank everyone in this channel for supporting such an awesome OS!
[10:02] <hintswen> I'm using SSH to access my computer and i want to know if i can get my computer to download something
[10:02] <bbrazil> hintswen: wget
[10:02] <hintswen> if so how
[10:02] <cameronbergh> use wget
[10:02] <hintswen> thx
[10:03] <ville_> polpak! how do I burn that image to the friggen dvd
[10:03] <ville_> >.<
[10:03] <newbuntu> the only thing ive found hard in ubuntu, without the use of wine etc...  is to convert downloaded   avi  movie files into  DVD's or VCD's , which can be watched on a DVD player & a TV...   without using 3 different programs and taking 10 hours
[10:03] <cameronbergh> or some sort of text ftp client?
[10:03] <bertu> i am still getting an error
[10:03] <Sakunix> I have some 6.06 Kubuntu cd's laying around might try them.. Would a corrupt iso/cd cause it to hang at that point?
[10:03] <frogzoo> hintswen: sure, np - best to startup it with nohup
[10:03] <polpak> ville_: is cdrecord installed ?
[10:03] <ville_> I dunno
[10:03] <bbrazil> bertu: try using a different mirror
[10:03] <bertu> like
[10:03] <hintswen> how do i unpack a file(.tar.gz)
[10:03] <polpak> ville_: try to type cdrecord
[10:03] <bbrazil> Sakunix: that's one possability
[10:03] <spades> newbuntu get a dvd player that can play avi files, i got a philips one at home for like $60 and all i do is burn the data and it plays
[10:04] <frogzoo> hintswen: either man tar, or tar zxf
[10:04] <ville_> it is installee
[10:04] <ville_> installed*
[10:04] <bertu> hey just excuse me if i dont understand i am still a big noob
[10:04] <Sakunix> hintswen: gunzip <file>
[10:04] <Sakunix> tar -xvf <file>
[10:04] <bertu> so
[10:04] <newbuntu> hintswen for that i use remote desktop Krdc
[10:04] <newbuntu> spades   wow eh!  cool
[10:04] <bertu> i am using the software updates program
[10:04] <ville_> polpak it is installed
[10:05] <Knome> bertu: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[10:05] <polpak> ville_: ok then we just need to know which drive is your burner
[10:05] <bertu> i try it?
[10:05] <bbrazil> bertu: no, don't do a dist-upgrade
[10:05] <bertu> ok
[10:05] <frogzoo> hintswen: another option would be to use screen to kick off the d/l, then detach
[10:05] <ville_> I only have one drve
[10:05] <polpak> ville_: I'm assuming of course you have no other computers or OS's handy
[10:05] <newbuntu> spades  only problem is 99 % of people cant play, but cool tip non-the-less
[10:05] <ville_> drive*
[10:05] <bbrazil> bertu: edit /etc/apt/sources.list to use a different mirror. You current one seems to be broken
[10:05] <polpak> ville_: what version is it?
[10:05] <polpak> ville_: cdrecord I mean
[10:05] <ville_> wat =|
[10:05] <ville_> I dunno
[10:06] <Sakunix> are there any major differences between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[10:06] <bbrazil> Sakunix: gnome vs. kde
[10:06] <polpak> ville_: try cdrecord --version
[10:06] <dli> Sakunix, no, just different packages
[10:06] <bertu> hey it told me permission denied
[10:06] <frogzoo> Sakunix: use of gnome instead of kde?
[10:06] <bbrazil> bertu: put sudo in front of it
[10:06] <Sakunix> bbrazil: just different gui's for the same thing
[10:06] <bertu> ok
[10:06] <bbrazil> Sakunix: something like that
[10:06] <Sakunix> ic
[10:06] <ville_> 2.1a31 or somethin
[10:07] <hardkiffeur> hi all
[10:07] <bertu> so what do i type
[10:07] <ville_> 2.01
[10:07] <ville_> I mean
[10:07] <Sakunix> any reason to choose one over the other or they are the same ting
[10:07] <gauss83> :)
[10:07] <bbrazil> bertu: sudo edit /etc/apt/sopurces.list
[10:07] <spades> Sakunix just personal preference, try em out and choose your fav
[10:07] <frogzoo> !start a gnome vs kde war...
[10:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about start a gnome vs kde war...
[10:07] <derek> hi
[10:07] <ville_> polpak it's 2.01
[10:07] <creative> how can i check my xorg version ?
[10:07] <Sakunix> hehe
[10:07] <bbrazil> bertu: *editor *sources
[10:07] <derek> does anybody know how to install rar in ubuntu
[10:08] <bertu> eroro
[10:08] <bertu> error
[10:08] <bertu> Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/apt/sopurces.list" -- using "application/*"Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*"
[10:08] <Sakunix> ok spades will do
[10:08] <derek> does anybody know how to install rar in ubuntu
[10:08] <bbrazil> derek: unrar-free
[10:08] <dli> they should disable the " I know nothing part "
[10:08] <derek> bbrazil, Thank you man
[10:08] <spades> Sakunix theres also xfce, black/open/fluxbox and others
[10:08] <ville_> ......
[10:08] <spades> Sakunix e17 too if you wanna try more
[10:08] <ville_> polpak it's 2.01
[10:08] <dli> !anything
[10:08] <bertu> what shall i write
[10:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything
[10:09] <schmakk> im playing around with xgl and compiz.. and rhythmbox screws it over bigtime. thr RB window has no taskbar or tray and when its running, stuff like ctrl+alt+drag cube wont work, and i cant type in xchat etc.. help :)
[10:09] <xice> schmakk, goto #ubuntu-xgl
[10:09] <dli> Sakunix, I found most windows users like kde better
[10:09] <frogzoo> derek: pkg unrar
[10:09] <polpak> ville_: one sec
[10:09] <schmakk> xice, ty, didnt know there was a channel for it
[10:09] <polpak> derek sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[10:10] <ville__> argfh
[10:10] <ville__> polpak.. it is 2.01 are you even there ffs =<
[10:10] <Sakunix> ubuntu and kubuntu this channel will provide assistance for both?
[10:10] <bbrazil> Sakunix: #kubuntu
[10:10] <dli> Sakunix, however, you have to try out to find your allegiance
[10:11] <Sakunix> yes of course
[10:11] <bulltitan> hello again
[10:11] <ville__> how can I burn one image to dvd from console??
[10:11] <derek> frogzoo, thank you man
[10:11] <derek> polpak, thank you
[10:11] <frogzoo> derek: np
[10:11] <Sakunix> at command line level both os's are the same I assume?
[10:12] <frogzoo> Sakunix: they're both the same OS - linux
[10:12] <dli> Sakunix, they are the same OS, with different packages
[10:12] <dli> frogzoo, you can install both on your box
[10:12] <frogzoo> dli: true
[10:12] <dli> frogzoo, linux is the kernel, the os is ubuntu :(
[10:12] <ville__> fuck this I'll install windows..
[10:12] <Sakunix> ahh I am new to the whole linux thing so yer forgive the ignorance
[10:12] <frogzoo> ville__: ok, enjoy
[10:12] <dli> ville_, language
[10:13] <ville__> I will.
[10:13] <J-_> gah windows stinks =P
[10:13] <bulltitan> from console why?
[10:13] <polpak> ville_ does it list anything if you do sudo cdrecord -scanbus
[10:13] <ville__> never had prorbs with dear windows xp <3
[10:13] <bulltitan> u have k3b, gnomebacker then why console
[10:13] <ville__> pah
[10:13] <ville__> I forgot
[10:13] <fats`> Does anyone think an out of the box Dapper would run on an old Celeron 700MHz laptop with 128mb of ram?
[10:13] <dli> Sakunix, you can install both to your box, just do: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop
[10:13] <ville__> I dun have cd in my place :(
[10:13] <benkyoto> ville, really be rational pal
[10:13] <J-_> Linux is so much better, Ubuntu is the goodness.
[10:13] <frogzoo> fats`: will run, just not with gnome
[10:13] <Sakunix> dli: Thanks
[10:13] <adamant1988> fats`, it will if it's Xubuntu
[10:13] <dli> fats`, 128MB might be too small for livecd
[10:14] <fats`> What would you suggest?
[10:14] <ville__> benkyoto, I should use linux?
[10:14] <Sakunix> dli: gdm? kdm?
[10:14] <dli> fats`, but if you got it on your hdd, ubuntu will run at 128MB
[10:14] <Sakunix> that incorparated?
[10:14] <fats`> adamant1988 - Xubumtu
[10:14] <frogzoo> fats`: DSL maybe?
[10:14] <fats`> Yeah I would install it
[10:14] <dli> Sakunix, doesn't matter, just choose one :)
[10:14] <newbuntu> thanks yall
[10:14] <adamant1988> fats`, xubuntu live cd requires 128 megs ram minimum.  the install is much less.
[10:14] <dli> Sakunix, gdm from gnome, kdm from kde
[10:14] <benkyoto> if you thought  "easy wizard" pseudoknowledge was amount to knowing the workings of an OS, then no... perhaps u were better with Win
[10:14] <fats`> I'd be installing it for sure
[10:14] <derek> polpak, man  do you know how to use system's default archive manager to op a rar file?
[10:14] <fats`> I already have it on a desktop
[10:14] <ville__> I'll use at least dual boot if someone would just tell me how to burn this friggen image to the dvd!
[10:14] <ville__> I can only use this console
[10:14] <Sakunix> arnt kdm and gdm dependancies for it?
[10:15] <revilot> ville__ whats the problem
[10:15] <polpak> ville__:  I asked you a question.. but you're too busy whining to answer it
[10:15] <Sakunix> I dont understand how it all works together
[10:15] <Ademan_> hey, in php5, how do you access the last item in an array? i know assigning to the last element is with empty []   but what about accessing?
[10:15] <J-_> use an iso burning program.
[10:15] <frogzoo> derek: install rar - restart & nautilus will handle rars
[10:15] <benkyoto> I actually burned the iso for Ubunto from Windows
[10:15] <dli> Sakunix, yes, gnome pulls in gdm, kde pulls in kdm
[10:15] <ville__> polpak I dced a moment ago
[10:15] <ville__> what did you ask
[10:15] <polpak> revilot: he's install Hoary, and needs to burn a dapper ISO from command line
[10:15] <fats`> I'm having a problem getting WinXP to recognize my PCMCIA ports, so I'm thinking of squashing it and going with dapper
[10:15] <Sakunix> awesome
[10:15] <polpak> ville__ does it list anything if you do sudo cdrecord -scanbus
[10:15] <bulltitan> i don't get is there any probs with x in your putter?
[10:15] <fats`> but I doubt it'll support my wireless card easily
[10:15] <revilot> but he has gnomebaker right?
[10:15] <frogzoo> fats`: which card?
[10:15] <dli> fats`, which card?
[10:15] <ville__> mm... wait a sec again
[10:15] <frogzoo> dli: 'snap'!
[10:15] <bulltitan> as far as i know gnomebaker and k3b are real good burning dvds
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> Ademan_: echo $array[sizeof($array)-1] ;
[10:15] <polpak> revilot: no, he can't get into x
[10:16] <fats`> Netgear WG5111
[10:16] <fats`> er
[10:16] <fats`> 511
[10:16] <revilot> oh
[10:16] <Sakunix> so when you type something in a gui it goes    | input | -> | gdm | -> | Xserver| -> |command line|   ??
[10:16] <fats`> Or a WG111
[10:16] <polpak> revilot: or rather he can, but it's just X
[10:16] <zdux0012> how can I launch the gnome control center?
[10:16] <polpak> revilot: no gnome
[10:16] <fats`> I also have a Netgear MA521, but that's only .11b
[10:16] <fats`> which is crap
[10:16] <Ademan_> fyrestrtr: there was a short hand for that though i'm almost positive, thanks though
[10:16] <revilot> ville__ : so you got rid of windows or what
[10:16] <polpak> revilot: and he can't install any packages cause dpkg is supposedly locked up
[10:16] <ville> Polpak, it does
[10:16] <ville> Lots of text <.<
[10:17] <polpak> ville anything like  0,0,0 0) 'CD-RW ' 'CDR-5W48 ' 'VSG3' Removable CD-ROM
[10:17] <derek> frogzoo, really? Thank you , i try
[10:17] <ville> no
[10:17] <revilot> ville__ : so you got rid of windows or what
[10:17] <ville> I had dual boot..
[10:17] <revilot> and...
[10:17] <ville> But then pc shut downh and nothin worked
[10:17] <J-_> When do you think Linux will have ext. hdd wrote support that's not experimental?
[10:18] <J-_> i*
[10:18] <ville> windows cd isnt here so the only thing is ubuntu
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> J-_: it already does
[10:18] <ville> which is 5.06 or something -______-
[10:18] <revilot> ville__ : so youre pc just magically shut donw?
[10:18] <polpak> ville well all we need to do is burn the dapper ISO
[10:18] <fats`> j- I have perfect ext hdd support
[10:18] <J-_> what the heck
[10:18] <polpak> ville which should be easy if we can find the device numbers for your burner
[10:18] <fats`> Using USB2.0
[10:18] <polpak> ville assuming it's supported
[10:18] <fats`> Altho, when I delete something from it, it doesn't really delete it
[10:18] <fats`> Which annoys me
[10:18] <Riplix> Hi everyone.
[10:19] <fats`> 'ol
[10:19] <fats`> a
[10:19] <Riplix> How can i set the ssh deamon to display the /etc/issue file ?
[10:19] <ville> device numbers, polpak?
[10:19] <Riplix> anyone knows?
[10:19] <J-_> I can't write to my ext. hdd. someone told me fuse is still experimental, unless there's another driver that's stable
[10:19] <fats`> I don't know, I've kinda been wondering that myself
[10:19] <bulltitan> leavin to crash see u later
[10:19] <revilot> ville__ : so are you on another pc right now?
[10:19] <frogzoo> fats`: Netgear 511 should be no problem
[10:19] <ville> no
[10:20] <fats`> frogzoo - oh?
[10:20] <fats`> I've read differently
[10:20] <maddler> Riplix: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[10:20] <zbyte> was wondering if anyone could help me with a problem dealing with a PSX to USB converter, i posted it on the forums:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=211108
[10:20] <ville> hmmmmm...
[10:20] <ville> mandrake..
[10:20] <frogzoo> fats`: seems it runs with the tulip driver - at the worst, you'll need to compile the kernel module
[10:20] <fats`> I don't feel like formatting my other hdd for the laptop yet, so I can't really check it
[10:20] <maddler> Riplix: look for Banner statement
[10:20] <fats`> frogzoo - yeah, that's something I'm not familiar with
[10:21] <revilot> ville__ : you dont have knoppix or any other live cd do you
[10:21] <ville> I have ubuntu live cd
[10:21] <zdux0012> how can I change the appearance of controls like the checkbox?
[10:21] <frogzoo> fats`: but this card is like 4 years old, ordinarily anything that old is well supported by now
[10:21] <frogzoo> !themes > zdux0012
[10:21] <Riplix> maddler: aha, i've done that already. But if i would like to display the current kernel or time or OS, it doesn't work.
[10:21] <revilot> ville__ : why cant you use that
[10:22] <zdux0012> frogzoo: just the checkbox, not the entire theme
[10:22] <ville> to what
[10:22] <fats`> I have a 511v2 tho
[10:22] <J-_> what's the ext. hdd driver? if i can write onto my ext drive from linux i can say goodbye to windows for good.
[10:22] <fats`> I've read that v1 and v2 are different chipsets
[10:22] <fats`> I think ones a Realtek and the other is a Prism?
[10:22] <revilot> get into gnome
[10:22] <fats`> Not positive at all
[10:22] <ville> what would that help?
[10:22] <revilot> your problem is you cant get into gnome right
[10:22] <ville> ye
[10:23] <revilot> ????
[10:23] <ville> I can get into gnome with live cd but that's kinda different
[10:23] <polpak> revilot: no the problem is he's on Hoary and needs to upgrade
[10:23] <Sakunix> dli: you said I could run both gnome and kde on the same machine how do I swap? does it require a reboot?
[10:23] <fats`> frogzoo - you might be able to help me with my other problem.. I want to keep my vnc server running after logging out of my gnome session(So I can log back in when I feel like it). Or atleast be able to start the vnc session via SSH
[10:23] <revilot> you cant burn anything using live cd?
[10:23] <spades> Sakunix logout and choose session kde
[10:23] <polpak> ville you have a live CD?
[10:23] <ville> nop
[10:23] <frogzoo> !vlc
[10:23] <ville> polpak yea
[10:23] <ubotu> Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC - also see !codecs
[10:23] <bbrazil> revilot: you can if you have 2 cd drives
[10:23] <spades> Sakunix assuming you have kde installed
[10:24] <polpak> ville why can't you burn with it?
[10:24] <revilot> ahh thats right
[10:24] <ville> can I burn with it?
[10:24] <ville> =<
[10:24] <ville> lols
[10:24] <bbrazil> revilot: or know what you're up to
[10:24] <ville> can I download that thing with that live?
[10:24] <dli> Sakunix, no, just logout one, and choose your session, login , ( indeed, you can literally run both at the same time, one at :0, and one at :1)
[10:24] <polpak> ah.. hang on
[10:24] <J-_> =\
[10:24] <revilot> everything has to fit in ram right
[10:25] <revilot> not sure how that works
[10:25] <ville> I have 786Mb ram
[10:25] <frogzoo> fats`: I'm guessing try the man page
[10:25] <dli> Sakunix, you can compare which one is more sexier by this time
[10:25] <revilot> live cd is about that in itself i think
[10:25] <bbrazil> revilot: or copy the current cd to disk and somehow boot off it
[10:25] <frogzoo> revilot: everything has to fit in virtual memory - ie installed ram + configured swap
[10:25] <ville> revilot I think not...
[10:25] <SanketMedhi> hello any XGL hackers here?
[10:25] <bbrazil> SanketMedhi: #ubuntu-xgl
[10:25] <ville> Live cd's min requirement is 128Mb ram
[10:25] <SanketMedhi> ohk
[10:25] <frogzoo> SanketMedhi: -> #ubuntu-xgl
[10:25] <revilot> i mean the size of the iso
[10:26] <ville> yea
[10:26] <ville> that
[10:26] <J-_> =(
[10:26] <ville> it's 600-700Mb I think
[10:26] <revilot> youre confusing me
[10:26] <revilot> ya thats what i said
[10:26] <ville> yeap
[10:26] <revilot> ok
[10:26] <revilot> ...
[10:26] <ville> so I'll go to live now..
[10:26] <ville> ->
[10:26] <ville> brb
[10:26] <benkyoto> ville:i think its 700mb
[10:26] <bbrazil> J-_: eh, vfat
[10:26] <revilot> cant believe you didnt try that first
[10:26] <bbrazil> J-_: probably
[10:26] <fats`> frogzoo - did you get that question?
[10:27] <benkyoto> ville: at last that was what Nero displayed when I bunt it in windows
[10:27] <J-_> thanks bbrazil
[10:27] <bbrazil> J-_: it should already be loaded though. usd hdd?
[10:27] <frogzoo> fats`: don't use vnc, so unless someone in chan knows, try the man page
[10:27] <polpak> ville at the very least you can mount your hd since you already have it downloaded
[10:27] <fats`> gotcha
[10:27] <polpak> ville and burn it from there
[10:28] <revilot> or just reinstall windows like you said ;)
[10:28] <polpak> revilot: nah.. windows sux
[10:28] <revilot> how did you bork ubuntu to begin with
[10:28] <polpak> revilot: it's an old version. I'm not even sure the repos are around anymore
[10:29] <J-_> will vfat work on nfts, and is vfat in the repos?
[10:29] <corran> just out of curosity, where can one find a description of what groups are in the base-config file?
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> J-_: vfat is a file system, so it ntfs. There is no such thing as 'vfat works on ntfs'. Describe your problem please.
[10:30] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> can someone please help me set the default java
[10:30] <hivemind> Hey guys! I just got Dapper set up and I was trying to get Firestarter to start on startup. I used System -> Prefs -> Sessions, but it said I have insuffiecent privilieges. Any ideas?
[10:30] <Ademan_> what's a good word for passing things on to your children? some kind of inherritance, but look at it from the parent's point of view, they don't inherrit, they pass on, is there a better word for that?
[10:30] <revilot> J-_: linux can read fat partitions
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> hivemind: when you install it, it automatically sets it up to start working at boot time.
[10:30] <maxhak> hi all
[10:30] <corran> specifically, what does video belong to?
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> Ademan_: tradition?
[10:31] <YtseJam> aaaaaa, it worked!
[10:31] <YtseJam> fyrestrtr.
[10:31] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> hivemind: what he said , and you always need to sudo to run then ui
[10:31] <revilot> anyone have xgl running in here
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> sure
[10:31] <hivemind> Hmm, alright. I'll take a look at Firestarter's settings then.
[10:31] <frogzoo> Ademan_: endow? k - back to topic
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> YtseJam: yes?
[10:32] <YtseJam> fyrestrtr, it worked.
[10:32] <J-_> fyrestrtr: I bought an external HDD, partitioned it with ntfs because it was the only option on windows. Now teh ext. drive is hooked up to linux, i can only read the drive, can't write onto it.
[10:32] <polpak> hivemind: you can of course configure sudo to allow your user to run firestarter w/o a password, then use sudo firestarter as the command
[10:32] <YtseJam> Ubuntu on first run seems very nice indeed.
[10:32] <YtseJam> fyrestrtr, however, few questions...
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> !captive
[10:32] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[10:32] <revilot> fyrestrtr: you have xgl running?
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> revilot: yes
[10:32] <hivemind> Thanks everyone.
[10:33] <revilot> fyrestrtr: you know how out of focus windows fade out and go gray
[10:33] <frogzoo> YtseJam: you'll do better directing your questions to the channel
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> yes
[10:33] <revilot> fyrestrtr: that fade annoys me, do you know how i can get rid of it
[10:33] <Villelol> ok
[10:33] <J-_> yeah still experimental, i don't want to screw up my backed up shtuff
[10:33] <YtseJam> fyrestrtr, I assume my Windows partitions are supposed to be accessible, however, when I try to open one of them, I get 2 errors: "device /dev/hda5 is not removeable" "could not pmount"
[10:33] <Villelol> Im now in gnome with live
[10:33] <YtseJam> frogzoo, will do.
[10:33] <revilot> fyrestrtr: ive tried screwing around in conf editor
[10:33] <polpak> !ntfs
[10:33] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:33] <revilot> fyrestrtr: but nothing seems to have any effect
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> revilot: gset-compiz should take care of it, there is an option there where you can specify it.
[10:34] <polpak> YtseJam: ^^
[10:34] <Villelol> polpak, what now?
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> revilot: are you restarting compiz? it takes affect after the restart.
[10:34] <YtseJam> polpak, yes, already checking :)
[10:34] <polpak> Villelol: you need to mount your HD (it may be already)
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> revilot: please ask in #ubuntu-xgl :)
[10:34] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> doesn anyone know how to set the sun java as default when the alternative doesnt see it?
[10:34] <polpak> Villelol: which live CD is this, 5.04 ?
[10:34] <revilot> fyrestrtr: well i disabled fade altogether and it took effect immediately but the out of focus windows still go grey
[10:34] <YtseJam> Question 2, I have a damn PCI (internal ADSL) modem, when I try to configure it, it is a no-go.
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> J-_: copy it to your main drive, format the external using vfat, then copy it over.
[10:34] <frogzoo> VieLGuS-KuTaS: maybe it's not installed?
[10:35] <revilot> fyrestrtr: ah ok thx
[10:35] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> frogzoo: it is , i installed it
[10:35] <Villelol> polpak yes
[10:35] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> frogzoo: well , i unpackaged it , it doent have a installer
[10:35] <Villelol> it's 5.04
[10:35] <Villelol> ummm... Polpak, can I remove live cd from the drive?
[10:36] <polpak> Villelol: I dunno, will it eject?
[10:36] <J-_> will vfat work on windows? my ext. drive is 300gb. linux is 20mb, and windows is 160mb
[10:36] <YtseJam> Anyone here had any luck with PCI modems?
[10:36] <Villelol> polpak... no..
[10:36] <frogzoo> VieLGuS-KuTaS: VieLGuS-KuTaS 'sun-java5-jre' ?
[10:37] <Villelol> ARGH
[10:37] <Villelol> so I cant do anything
[10:37] <Villelol> even if I'd dload that iso I cant burn it
[10:37] <polpak> Villelol: didn't you dl the iso already?
[10:37] <frogzoo> !winmodem > YtseJam
[10:37] <Villelol> polpak no.
[10:37] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> frogzoo: yes, i had to download it from the website because there are no 07 updates in repos
[10:37] <YtseJam> frogzoo, I just mentioned it's an ADSL modem...
[10:37] <polpak> Villelol: well do that first (from the normal install not live cd)
[10:37] <Villelol> k
[10:38] <benkyoto> dammit, my skrs just died on me (ToT)
[10:38] <J-_> will windows read a vfat drive?
[10:38] <frogzoo> J-_: vfat is shorthand for fat12/16/32
[10:39] <J-_> ah ok
[10:39] <J-_> thanks for all your help dewds. much appreciated.
[10:42] <YtseJam> Hmm, the mounting script doesn't come included in the LiveCD? This means I'll hav to type this. blechs :)
[10:43] <frogzoo> YtseJam: use wget
[10:43] <frogzoo> YtseJam: oic...
[10:44] <YtseJam> I can't. :)
[10:44] <frogzoo> YtseJam: yeh, got that
[10:44] <frogzoo> YtseJam: quicker to just edit /etc/fstab
[10:45] <YtseJam> frogzoo, me no speak linux.
[10:45] <frogzoo> YtseJam: or get your network up...
[10:45] <YtseJam> frogzoo, yes, getting my network up would be very nice...
[10:45] <YtseJam> But it seems almost impossible with this ADSL modem.
[10:45] <YtseJam> I think I'm the only person in the world with an internal ADSL modem
[10:46] <frogzoo> YtseJam: this is what you want... http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mount_Windows_partitions_%28DOS%2C_FAT%2C_NTFS%29
[10:46] <Minty> I have gnome running but would like to see how KDE runs is it esay to add / install ??
[10:47] <Flannel> Minty: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:47] <Minty> Thanks Flannel :)
[10:47] <frogzoo> YtseJam: just skip the first para about kernel config
[10:48] <YtseJam> That URL will not load.
[10:48] <frogzoo> YtseJam: first link: http://www.google.com/search?q=mount%20fat%20linux
[10:48] <YtseJam> Anyway, I think HD should come later, I just wanted to get some music...
[10:48] <YtseJam> Network is far more important. ;\
[10:49] <YtseJam> W/out network, no Ubuntu. bleh
[10:51] <Minty> flannel : am downloading KDE and afterwards ??
[10:51] <Flannel> Minty: you'll log out to GDM (that is the login screen), then under "session" select KDE
[10:51] <Flannel> Minty: and login
[10:51] <Minty> flannel : thanks
[10:55] <monomaniacpat> does anyone here know what driver version the xpad module is that came with dapper?
[10:56] <_extricate_> how do i check versions of programs i have exactly?
[10:58] <hintswen> argh
[10:58] <hintswen> ths is 2 hard
[10:58] <hintswen> i can't even install a IRC bot without stuffing up
[10:58] <Picacodigos> hi all
[10:58] <hintswen> hi
[11:02] <xice_notebook> how do i get x back up and runnning after installing a new kernel?
[11:03] <Picacodigos> excuse me, but is this the place for *absolutely newbie* questions?
[11:03] <Lynoure> Picacodigos: not only those, but those too
[11:03] <Picacodigos> =)
[11:03] <Picacodigos> ok, i'm a complete newbie to linux
[11:04] <Picacodigos> i don't even know how to install applications
[11:04] <Picacodigos> or codecs
[11:04] <Picacodigos> or anything
[11:04] <hintswen> i'm a complete idiot
[11:04] <hintswen> i tried to install something, it didn't work
[11:04] <hintswen> and now i dunno how to get rid of it
[11:04] <funkmaster> i shter sumthing worng with this? http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/cupsys/libcupsys2_1.2.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[11:04] <funkmaster>   404 Not Found
[11:04] <Lynoure> Picacodigos: EasyUbuntu is an easy tool for installing the most common non-free codecs
[11:05] <hintswen> I'm TRYING to make or get a IRC bot that can just stay in a room and kick people who swear/flood etc.
[11:05] <Linuturk> hey, i'm having some issues
[11:05] <funkmaster> hintswen, there r a lot of bots like this lready, just copy script and adapt
[11:05] <hintswen> i've tried perl, i've tried C. i'm never gonna get this
[11:05] <Linuturk> my wireless USB adapter is acting wierd with the network-admin applet in gnome
[11:05] <hintswen> i can't find1 that i can get working! i'm a total idiot
[11:05] <Linuturk> it locks up, and it seems to be random
[11:06] <hintswen> i have 1 but i must have stuffed up the install or something
[11:06] <funkmaster> hintswear: first u need a eggdrop
[11:06] <funkmaster> i think there is one in the ubuntu packages
[11:06] <funkmaster> onces u have that running, just add the scripts
[11:06] <Linuturk> when it freezes, I can't do anything. I have to manually powerdown
[11:06] <Minty> flannel : have downloaded KDE and re booted cant find how to switch from gnome to KDE, sorry :(
[11:06] <Linuturk> Minty, there should be a sessions or options section on the login screen
[11:06] <hintswen> k i'll look
[11:07] <Krupz> hi
[11:07] <faddat> Hey, does Ubuntu cache DNS entries?
[11:07] <Linuturk> Minty, you should be able to choose whatever gui you want from there.
[11:07] <Minty> will re ty back asapr
[11:07] <faddat> My ISP had a bad DNS entry for 2 websites I like and I can't access them despite switching DNS servers
[11:07] <Sakunix> how do you update your kernel?
[11:07] <gatekeeper> Minty: when you get to the log-in screen press menu (at least that what it is with kubuntu) and it will give the option
[11:08] <faddat> Sakunix: Do you want to use something really exotic?
[11:08] <funkmaster> Linuturk: i expereicned that the network applet sometimes needs pertty long to be normal but it works after a hwhile of waiting, maybe urs is also not freezing
[11:08] <hintswen> ok i used "sudo apt-get install eggdrop" to get the eggdrop thing. now i don't know what i'm doing as usial
[11:08] <Sakunix> I want to get nvidia drivers to work
[11:08] <funkmaster> lol
[11:08] <Linuturk> funkmaster, i've waited several hours before. the mouse and keyboard are unresponsive
[11:08] <funkmaster> hintswn: why don't u use synaptic?
[11:08] <Sakunix> I can only find headers and source for 2.6.15-25
[11:08] <funkmaster> anyhow, a nromal eggdrop install is pretty much automated
[11:09] <hintswen> cause i'm using SSH
[11:09] <funkmaster> there is a website with howto
[11:09] <faddat> oh okay man
[11:09] <Linuturk> the wireless adapter seems to be working great (better than windows, and out of the box), but it seems to fight the network admin applet
[11:09] <funkmaster> google it, there is alot about eggdrops, and it's really easy
[11:09] <hintswen> lol well lets just say it's frozen on the screensaver
[11:09] <faddat> Sakunix:
[11:09] <Minty> when I re boot and look under options have still only Gnome as choice :(
[11:09] <faddat> er
[11:09] <faddat> Sakunix:  let me show you.....
[11:09] <Sakunix> that would be great
[11:09] <Linuturk> how did you install KDE minty?
[11:09] <hintswen> it's frozen on the screensaver so all i can do is SSH it, other guy that can SSH my server said there's a process(xorg or something) hoging resources
[11:09] <Linuturk> type this into terminal
[11:10] <Krupz> sorry, but i have a centrino laptop with 855G (i810graphic chip), and i'm trying to run Xgl on ubuntu dapper 6.06 LTS, but i tried with some howtos and noone works, any experiencie about that? anybody is running Xgl with i810?
[11:10] <Linuturk> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:10] <Minty> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:10] <Minty> did that
[11:10] <Linuturk> heh
[11:10] <faddat> Sakunix: here ya go :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:10] <faddat> That'll guide you through it
[11:10] <Linuturk> got your repositories setup correctly Minty ?
[11:10] <hintswen> i wonder if i should reboot it...
[11:11] <Linuturk> and, try out a "sudo apt-get update"
[11:11] <Linuturk> then try the other command
[11:11] <hintswen> how can i see it's processes and kill them?
[11:11] <Sakunix> faddat thanks mate
[11:11] <faddat> No problem :)
[11:11] <Lynoure> hintswen: ps x   (or see   man ps   for more info)
[11:12] <Minty> linuturk : seem okay
[11:12] <hintswen> odd, i don't see the process he was talking about
[11:13] <Flannel> Minty: you need to restart GDM.
[11:13] <nadeem> hi
[11:13] <help_me> hi
[11:13] <help_me> i need help
[11:13] <Linuturk> he said he rebooted the computer Flannel
[11:13] <help_me> somebody speak french?
[11:13] <hintswen> aah that's better
[11:14] <Minty> moi mais il ya un channel francais ubuntu-fr
[11:14] <Linuturk> the wireless adapter seems to be working great (better than windows, and out of the box), but it seems to fight the network admin applet
[11:14] <nomin> I encountered a strange bug when I updated.  When I would try to select the info on the login and password updates, X would restart.  I updated and there are no problems.  Should be ok, but it was odd.
[11:14] <help_me> ok merci Minty
[11:14] <Minty> je ton pri
[11:14] <RememberPOL> Is there a Device/Hardware Database Submission tool in v6.06?
[11:15] <Linuturk> yes, it's under the Device Manager
[11:15] <Linuturk> they hide it
[11:15] <Linuturk> System>Administration>Device Manager i believe
[11:15] <zdux0012> Thanks guys, I've asked 5 questions and gotten 0 answers and no help, you guys rock!
[11:15] <pandamonium> does anyone know where i can find a config file for the msttcorefonts installer please?
[11:15] <Linuturk> well, ask again zdux0012
[11:15] <Picacodigos> a very simple question: using Synaptic I've just installed called Konquest, but I can't see it on the applications menu. How can I add it there? Is it because its a KDE app?
[11:16] <RememberPOL> Linuturk: Ah yeah I see it at the bottom of the Device Manager window.. I had opened that and closed it because i thought it was just output info
[11:16] <RememberPOL> hehe
[11:16] <RememberPOL> cool though
[11:16] <Linuturk> any help with my wireless device though?
[11:16] <RememberPOL> Picacodigos: Right click Applications: Edit Menus
[11:16] <Linuturk> Picacodigos, i'm not sure.
[11:16] <igorzolnikov> hi! i have problem with last update...
[11:17] <hintswen> dammit, now i can't reboot that computer
[11:17] <igorzolnikov> W: Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/cupsys/libcupsys2_1.2.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[11:17] <Picacodigos> thanks, rememberPOL, I'm on it
[11:18] <gatekeeper> Picacodigos: I use KDE not Gnome but you could try loging out of your WM and loging back in and see if it appears
[11:18] <pandamonium> installer times out whenever it tries to download andale32.exe although i've managed to download this locally
[11:19] <pandamonium> hmmm... just thought of something... is there a way to force one of the urls the installer tries to resolve to a local location?
[11:20] <arooni> hey everyone.... i get an error when i try to do a ruby command: http://pastie.caboo.se/3823 ... can someone tell me if i neeed more packages or somethign (ubuntu dapper)?
[11:21] <igorzolnikov> plz help. last update don'
[11:21] <igorzolnikov> t work
[11:22] <Lynoure> igorzolnikov: what happens instead of it working? errors, anything?
[11:22] <igorzolnikov> 404 Not Found
[11:22] <ciocanel> how can i check the output for the scrobbler plugin in rhythmbox?
[11:22] <Lynoure> igorzolnikov: then the mirror you are using doesn't have the files yet. Uusually gets fixed in less than a day
[11:23] <igorzolnikov> ok
[11:24] <igorzolnikov> can i change mirror?
[11:25] <kuzmaster> hello all
[11:26] <Lynoure> igorzolnikov: sure, just edit /etc/apt/sources.list to point at a different one
[11:27] <gatekeeper> arooni: if this was c/c++ I would say that you are missing source files I don't know ruby but it looks very similar
[11:27] <kuzmaster> !adept
[11:27] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[11:27] <arooni> gatekeeper: how would you reccomend fixing it?
[11:27] <kuzmaster> !packages
[11:27] <ubotu> You can browse and search the packages in Ubuntu in synaptic, adept and online on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:27] <arooni> gatekeeper: i have a bunch of ruby packages already isntalled
[11:27] <the_Kane> hey everyone
[11:27] <kuzmaster> !synaptic
[11:27] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[11:28] <the_Kane> QUESTION: i was just wondering, can i set up wine to display my video (game graphics) with CACA ?
[11:28] <gatekeeper> arooni: are there more you could install, is there a way of find out which module or whatever your undfined method is in?
[11:29] <kuzmaster> !vmware
[11:29] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[11:30] <gatekeeper> arooni: 'undefined mthod' is the key, you need to locate where that method might be in the ruby libs, like I said never used ruby myself
[11:32] <the_Kane> anyone?
[11:32] <giorgia> ...
[11:32] <lyvia> SLT
[11:34] <ville> polpak, now I dloaded it
[11:34] <Sakunix> I have KDE atm how do I install gnome
[11:34] <Sakunix> and then how do I swap to gnome?
[11:34] <ville> wtf
[11:35] <ville> where is polpak?!?!
[11:35] <ville> could someone else help me then..
[11:35] <the_Kane> sakunix: im not shore if this is correct, but if you go to synapitic and install the gnome desktop environment, it should download it, and install it so you dont have to configure anything
[11:35] <Sakunix> ic
[11:35] <windmill> hello I've installed dapper on my laptop, it looks nice but my scrolling thingy on my mouse pad doesn't work. it did work in breezy. Any ideas?
[11:36] <Sakunix> apt-get install gnome-desktop-enviroment is what I jsut typed in
[11:36] <kuzmaster> !easysource
[11:36] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:36] <Sakunix> and its now dl'n 80 Mb of stuff
[11:36] <the_Kane> sakunix: yeh that sounds right
[11:36] <Sakunix> how do I start gnome once its on there?
[11:36] <gatekeeper> Sakunix: when you get to the log-in screen press the menu button and gnome WM should become an option after you have installed it
[11:37] <revilot> select gnome on your login screen
[11:37] <Sakunix> so I jsut logout to change to gnome
[11:37] <Sakunix> I can handle that
[11:37] <Sakunix> nice
[11:37] <Sakunix> I like it
[11:37] <the_Kane> gatekeeper: im on gnome now, if i was to install KDE, at my login screen, can i select which environment i can load?
[11:37] <ville> how can I burn that friggen image?
[11:37] <the_Kane> ville: download gnome-baker
[11:38] <ville> I cant.. I need to burn in
[11:38] <gatekeeper> the_Kane: yes
[11:38] <ville> just tell me the fuking command...........
[11:38] <the_Kane> gatekeeper: thanks ;)
[11:38] <ville> uh.. Im so pissed with this..
[11:38] <Linuturk> where is that tutorial for non free formats? to enable DVD and mp3 playback?
[11:38] <Sakunix> ville: what do you want to do?
[11:38] <the_Kane> ville: lose the attitude, im trying to help you...
[11:38] <Minty> in KDE how do I enable a double click to open folders programs rather than a single click
[11:38] <ville> I just want one simple command.. how to burn that image what I dloaded just a moment ago
[11:38] <gatekeeper> the_Kane: on my test box I had KDE and Xfce selected what I wanted at the log-in screen
[11:38] <the_Kane> ville: tell me what your trying to do.. from what i understand you want to burn an iso image?
[11:38] <Linuturk> Minty, it's somewhere in the settings. It shouldn't be hard to find.
[11:38] <ville> I can only use this damn console
[11:39] <Minty> looking, god is it different than gnome
[11:39] <the_Kane> gatekeeper: ah right cool
[11:39] <Sakunix> ville: you have init running at level 3?
[11:39] <ville> no
[11:39] <ville> I cant run init 3
[11:39] <gatekeeper> the_Kane: loaded the last WM I used by default
[11:39] <ville> It's inti 2 now
[11:39] <the_Kane> WM ?
[11:39] <Sakunix> ville: hmm
[11:40] <ville> init*
[11:40] <ville> I just need to know the friggen command
[11:40] <Linuturk> Minty, it's just getting use to the new gui . . . i'm a gnome guy myself
[11:40] <ville> I dont need _ANYTHING_ else
[11:40] <Minty> :)
[11:40] <Sakunix> ville: you want to burn a iso image to cd from command line?
[11:40] <Linuturk> Minty, gnome or xfce or fluxbox, that is
[11:40] <kuzmaster> is it possible to edit the sources.list in gui mode, and save changes?
[11:40] <ville> yea, sakunix
[11:40] <gatekeeper> Minty: you sorted out how to change WM - KDE is like windows in some respects
[11:41] <the_Kane> kuzmaster: yeh, in synaptic
[11:41] <webben> has anyone else experienced difficulties installing ruby with checkinstall?
[11:41] <Minty> yes seems so, shall play with it to see which I prefer
[11:41] <webben> (or anyone else succeeded ...?)
[11:41] <Sakunix> ville: ok *Sakunix opens up google.com*
[11:41] <kuzmaster> but i put the one the i just got from source-o-matic in there?
[11:41] <Linuturk> !restricted formats
[11:41] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:42] <kuzmaster> im, can i put it in there using that?
[11:42] <the_Kane> kuzmaster: huh?
[11:42] <gatekeeper> Minty: there are others too, if you want to try enlightenment download the OLiveCD enlightenment is in the Ubuntu repos too
[11:42] <Minty> ok thanks
[11:42] <the_Kane> kuzmaster: im not shore, but why dont you just do it in the text editor?
[11:43] <kuzmaster> nano?
[11:43] <the_Kane> kuzmaster: nano? huh.. :S
[11:44] <cute_bettong> !restricted
[11:44] <kuzmaster> nm
[11:44] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:44] <kuzmaster> !easysource
[11:44] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:44] <kuzmaster> that tool is fantastic
[11:44] <ville> sakunix, found anything?
[11:45] <Sakunix> gear pro
[11:45] <Sakunix> not sure if its free though
[11:45] <the_Kane> QUESTION: i was just wondering, can i set up wine to display my video (game graphics) with CACA ?
[11:46] <ville> ...
[11:46] <ville> could someone tell me.. one single command that burns that one image into cd in command line
[11:47] <edulix> hi !
[11:47] <Sakunix> ahaha
[11:47] <Sakunix> you need to download a program to do it first ville
[11:47] <ville> o fuk this.. thanks eveyone.. thanks for nothing ..
[11:48] <ville> no you dont
[11:48] <edulix> suspend to ram in my laptop seems to work half
[11:48] <ville> You can do burn it from console Im sure
[11:48] <dsas> !patience > ville
[11:48] <Linuturk> google it then, ville
[11:48] <Linuturk> quit flaming
[11:48] <redlounge> hi everyone. i use vsftpd on ubuntu 6.06 and i could not get 'chroot_local_user' to work with 'ssl_enable'. anyone can help me?
[11:48] <edulix> it suspend and resumes, but when it resumes the screen is black. but i can login via ssh to it
[11:48] <ville> Linuturk, shut the fuk up I CANT FUKING OPEN THE BROWSER
[11:48] <Sakunix> I have never seen it done I have only ever seen mount of iso on loop devices
[11:49] <dsas> ville: Please don't use language like that here.
[11:49] <edulix> I've got an old ati radeon, and the only driver which suports it is the open source ati xorg driver
[11:49] <ville> you moron I already said 100 times I CANT get into friggin graphical interfacwe
[11:49] <dsas> !ops
[11:49] <webben> ville: please take your attitude somewhere else and come back when you've cooled off
[11:49] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[11:49] <kuzmaster> what do i type into terminal to change the permissions of my sources.list?
[11:49] <ville> argh
[11:49] <Knome> ville cdrecord should do the trick
[11:49] <frogzoo> !patience
[11:49] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:49] <kuzmaster> is it somthing along the lines of chmod?
[11:49] <ville> Knome.. I know but I dont know how to burn ........"
[11:50] <ville> I cant do anything graphical Im runnin init 2
[11:50] <Sakunix> cdw
[11:50] <Sakunix> ville: cdw?
[11:50] <dsas> kuzmaster: Yes it's chmod. I'm not sure that changing the permissions is a good idea though.
[11:50] <Linuturk> ville, you should be concerned with getting your gui back up before worrying about burning an iso file
[11:50] <ville> cdw?
[11:50] <Sakunix> the cmd
[11:50] <kuzmaster> dasa, why?
[11:50] <Sakunix> cdw [paramters] 
[11:50] <kuzmaster> dsas, why?
[11:50] <ville> Linuturk are you dumb or what? Im trying to get new cd to install this again
[11:50] <the_Kane> kuzmaster: if you are trying to edit your sources list use sudo
[11:50] <ville> why do you think Im trying to get some iso if I cant get gui
[11:50] <Knome> ville I think its something like 'cdrecord -pad filename.iso' but don't quote me on that
[11:51] <kuzmaster> but i want dont want to do it in terminal?
[11:51] <ville> dont say anything..
[11:51] <Sakunix> that works
[11:51] <revilot> ville: install windows and be done with it
[11:51] <Sakunix> lol at revilot
[11:51] <edulix> well, anyway..
[11:51] <Sakunix> thats what I would do too
[11:51] <edulix> how can I install suspend2 in dapper?
[11:51] <the_Kane> you wont, it will launch the text editor and you add your sorce their
[11:51] <the_Kane> *there
[11:51] <dsas> kuzmaster: Because if you change the permissions to something else then you could let other people modify it which would give them access to take over your system.
[11:51] <ville> Sakunix it says no writing mode specified
[11:52] <kizzume> I'm trying to install drivers for my nvidia video card, and it needs to have the kernel source available.  How do I make that available?
[11:52] <kuzmaster> sooo, how do i open it via sudo?
[11:52] <ville> Revilot I would install windows =D
[11:52] <ville> but I cant find the cd
[11:52] <kuzmaster> im a bit of a noob, sorry
[11:52] <rob> np
[11:52] <revilot> lol
[11:52] <webben> kuzmaster: in Terminal: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:52] <the_Kane> kuzmaster: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:52] <kuzmaster> thanxs
[11:52] <dsas> kizzume: You need to install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[11:52] <the_Kane> webben: dam :P
[11:53] <kuzmaster> which one?
[11:53] <webben> kuzmaster: which what?
[11:53] <kizzume> dsas:  would that be using apt-get ?
[11:53] <kuzmaster> nm, dw
[11:53] <dsas> kizzume: Using apt-get, synaptic package manager, adept. The choice is yours.
[11:53] <the_Kane> lol
[11:54] <kizzume> dsas:  I'll see if I can get that going.
[11:54] <kuzmaster> just wondering, can you install adept on gnome, or ubuntu?
[11:55] <webben> is there a nice way to cat (or equivalent) a known line number of a given file?
[11:55] <jrib> kuzmaster: yes, you can install adept in GNOME
[11:55] <kizzume> thanks
[11:55] <kuzmaster> hmmmm
[11:56] <dsas> kuzmaster: You can yes.
[11:56] <dsas> kuzmaster: Oh sorry, just noticed someone had already answered.
[11:56] <SVisor> Ubuntu update does not seem to work. It cant find the files (when downloading), still it claims I do have 7 updates available. It has worked before. Is this something that is known and will fix itself if I just sit and wait.
[11:56] <jrib> webben: sed -n '3p' file    <-- is that nice?  Just use your line number in place of 3 here
[11:57] <kuzmaster> when i ran sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, it came up with a blank text editor window, implying the the sources.list is blank
[11:57] <webben> jrib: that could do :) thanks
[11:58] <Linuturk> where do you get that eye candy I saw a video about? the 3d window switcher and such? I think it was xorg or something along those lines.
[11:58] <webben> SVisor: do a pastebin of the output of "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[11:58] <Yonda> hey guys ive got samba running on the network here..however when i try to access the ubuntu box from windows, it asks for a username and password...i think i need to add a user for samba or some such, but im not sure how to do that...
[11:58] <jrib> !xgl > Linuturk
[11:58] <Linuturk> jrib, thanks
[11:59] <jrib> Linuturk: not sure if you want xgl or 3ddesktop.  3ddesktop is just a program in the universe repository
[11:59] <Knome> webben: grep -n "" filename
[11:59] <webben> Knome: oh goody, two options - thanks :)
[11:59] <Linuturk> xgl was what I was looking for . . . but I didn't realize it was in alpha. I'll wait a bit. jrib
[11:59] <Knome> np
[11:59] <inc|freaky> can any1 in here tell me, how long compiling a new kernel usually takes?
[11:59] <SVisor> webben: Err http://au.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main pmount 0.9.11-1ubuntu1 404 Not Found ---- on all 7 packages
[12:00] <echtor2003_> http://echtor.xglusers.de/lol.png  << what is that?
[12:00] <Linuturk> lol echtor2003_
[12:00] <the_Kane> brb
[12:00] <Linuturk> got me . . . though
[12:01] <Linuturk> see right above? GiB
[12:01] <inc|freaky> MiB and MB are not the same. one is calculated with 1000 and the other one with 1024 i think
[12:01] <Linuturk> must be the localization
[12:01] <wk2001> hello! i need help with updating my breezy to dapper... i did it from console. now apt-get  gives an error: could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6
[12:01] <wk2001> what can i do?
[12:01] <webben> SVisor: interesting, but a pastebin of the actual output would be more helpful: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:02] <Yonda> ive got samba running on the network here..however when i try to access the ubuntu box from windows, it asks for a username and password...i think i need to add a user for samba or some such, but im not sure how to do that...
[12:02] <SVisor> webben: Sure Ill do it. But it does not give more info than that.
[12:03] <webben> SVisor: well doesn't it say what the 7 packages are, for instance?
[12:03] <Linuturk> !file structure
[12:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about file structure
[12:03] <Sakunix> faddat: I just followed that recipe on getting the nvidia drivers up
[12:03] <Linuturk> is there a good readme for the general file structure of Ubuntu ?
[12:03] <Sakunix> I now error out on starting x
[12:03] <jrib> !dirs
[12:03] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html - file permissions are explained at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[12:04] <Linuturk> thanks again jrib
[12:04] <webben> SVisor: you could try a different mirror, e.g. substitute gb for au, then try "aptitude reinstall pmount"
[12:05] <kizzume> Where is the kernel source located?  Where is the find option in xfce?
[12:05] <SVisor> webben: Now it worked on 5 of the packages (while doing the stdout/stderr capture). Maybe they are just not uploaded yet.
[12:05] <webben> SVisor: maybe the au mirror is in a little bit of a state
[12:06] <Sakunix> startx fails after intsalling nvidia drivers can anyone help?
[12:06] <kizzume> Is there a "find" option in xfce?
[12:06] <SVisor> webben: Ill just wait. It will probably solve itself in a few hours.
[12:08] <gatekeeper> !samba
[12:08] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:08] <softriver> Does anyone know how I can upgrade my ubuntu desktop installation to the ubuntu server installation?
[12:08] <Burne> www.idpz.net/tomytom/Linux.htm --> Linux news ! :)
[12:08] <webben> softriver: for what?
[12:08] <kizzume> never mind--I'll use the one in shell...
[12:08] <blaster999> hi all
[12:09] <softriver> I want to run mediawiki off of my pc so tht it will be accessible to all of my home computers.
[12:09] <Minty__> when I minimize Xchat is closes rather than minimizing, any ideas
[12:09] <blaster999> Is there a way to make mysql4 work with utf8 in ubuntu?
[12:09] <g-nome> anyone knows a good, easy and up-to-date tutorial for compiling my own kernel ?
[12:09] <Serious_Svenf> good afternoon, can anyone help me with libqt3c102-mt? I have libqt3-mt 3.3.3.4 installed but the Opera installer looks voor libqt3c102-mt
[12:10] <god> hey guys, im in need of a lil help
[12:10] <jrib> !kernel
[12:10] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:10] <blaster999> g-nome: make menuconfig; make; make install :)
[12:10] <god> has anyone had a problem where websites wont load but internet is stil working?
[12:10] <blaster999> Serious_Svenf: try symlinking
[12:10] <g-nome> blaster999: ok but BEFORE that !? :-)
[12:11] <gatekeeper> Yonda: have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/configuring-samba.html you can also set up shares from System Settings -> Sharing
[12:11] <SVisor> blaster999: And then figure out why your: Mouse, printer, RAID, SCSI, SATA.. does not work ;-)
[12:11] <blaster999> g-nome: get the tarball, unpack it to /usr/src/linux :)
[12:11] <blaster999> SVisor: too bad ubuntu doesn't have /proc/config.gz
[12:11] <g-nome> yeah, but i want also to OPTIMIZE it ;-)
[12:11] <Serious_Svenf> blaster999: I'm not familiar with that, I know what you're at (linking libqt3c102-mt to libqt3c-mt) but how do I do that?
[12:12] <blaster999> g-nome: best is to get the kernel config from ubuntu stock kernel
[12:12] <Seveas> blaster999, /boot/config-*
[12:12] <SVisor> blaster999: Yes that too bad. If you build your own kernel, make sure you enable that.
[12:12] <blaster999> g-nome: and then optimize it
[12:12] <g-nome> blaster999: ??? :-)
[12:12] <blaster999> Seveas: thanks! I didn't know that
[12:12] <Seveas> SVisor, why? It only takes up memory and is useless
[12:12] <Sub> god, yes
[12:13] <Sub> god, diable ipv6
[12:13] <god> do you now the cause?
[12:13] <blaster999> Serious_Svenf: I know there's a repository which has opera
[12:13] <god> i have
[12:13] <Sub> !tell god about ipv6
[12:13] <softriver> I'm also trying to figure out how to kill my xServer and boot to console.
[12:13] <Serious_Svenf> blaster999, I've seen the page but does it also solve the dependencies?
[12:13] <Sub> god, once you remove the ipv6 alias', and restart, it should be okay
[12:13] <blaster999> Serious_Svenf: should at least
[12:13] <god> i've done that
[12:13] <SVisor> Seveas: The memory usage.. do not know how much. But its a simple and fail safe (you cant delete it) way to get a new kernel build started.
[12:14] <Serious_Svenf> blaster999: I'm gonna try, I'll be back if it fails ;) thanks
[12:14] <blaster999> g-nome: there's not too much to optimize in the kernel config
[12:14] <Seveas> SVisor, if you manually delete files in /boot you're being silly anyway
[12:14] <blaster999> Serious_Svenf: here's a good sources.list generator which has the opera repo: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:15] <g-nome> blaster999: where can i get the ubuntu "stock kernel", but it's more to have it UP-TO-DATE that i want to compile it
[12:15] <J-_> how can i install fluxbox? can i just use synaptic?
[12:15] <jrib> !fluxbox > J-_
[12:15] <J-_> !fluxbox
[12:15] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox
[12:15] <J-_> thanks
[12:15] <SVisor> Seveas: Yes but you have to remember to copy you config to /boot when your happy with your new kernel. With /proc/config nothing to forget.
[12:16] <blaster999> as Seveas said, take the config from /boot/config-*
[12:16] <Seveas> SVisor, ehrm, you have to remember to use the ubuntu kernel build mechanisms
[12:16] <Seveas> then you don't need to do anything manually
[12:16] <Whisky`> How do i make Kubunty install on the free 5gb disp space on my HDD? The remaining 4 partitions; sda1,2,3,4 are Windows while sda-1 is free space. I selected it but then i have to choose where to mount it and i only hAve sda1,2,3,4 and NOT sda-1 which is the free space
[12:16] <Whisky`> Kubuntu*
[12:16] <Lynoure> Is there a newer version (unoddicial is fine) of hplip for ubuntu? I'm looking for 0.9.9 or newer
[12:16] <blaster999> g-nome: then rename it to .config and put it to the kernel source dir
[12:17] <ompaul> Seveas, a moment if I may
[12:17] <Seveas> ompaul, only if #ubuntu-ie really serves whiskey now ;)
[12:17] <frogzoo> whiskey?!
[12:17] <Whisky`> :/
[12:18] <ompaul> Seveas, well I have no idea who put that in initially but I left it there
[12:18] <blaster999> anyone here uses mysql?
[12:18] <Sakunix> If you screw your xorg.conf up what can you do about it?
[12:18] <hawkaloogie> fix it?
[12:18] <Seveas> Sakunix, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:18] <frogzoo> !xorg
[12:18] <redguy> Sakunix, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:18] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:18] <redblades> HAHAHAHAHA
[12:18] <blaster999> Sakunix: see if there's a backup xorg.conf.1 or something
[12:18] <Serious_Svenf> blaster999: keeps saying I need libqt3c102-mt, I'm looking at the source-o-matic but where can I check which source has the opera dependencies, as far as I know the libqt3c102-mt doesn't exist anymore because it's now called libqt3c-mt
[12:18] <SVisor> Sakunix: Revert back to the backup you did. You did a backup before you changed it didnt you?
[12:18] <redblades> I was going to type that, but you two got there firstest
[12:19] <Sakunix> hmm
[12:19] <SVisor> Sakunix: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:19] <Sakunix> ok
[12:19] <Sakunix> will do
[12:19] <redguy> Whisky`, sda-1? like in "sda negative 1"?
[12:19] <Edgtho> I installed dapper and xserver failed before I could even log in.
[12:19] <Seveas> redguy, antimatter partitions
[12:19] <blaster999> Serious_Svenf: try using dpkg to manually install. There's a switch that allows to bypass dependencies
[12:19] <Seveas> latest disk technology 
[12:19] <redguy> Seveas, lol
[12:20] <Seveas> Serious_Svenf, throw out that .deb file and find one for Ubuntu
[12:20] <kizzume> I'm trying to install drivers for my nvidia card, and it's requring the location of the kernel source, and I've tried doing a --kernel-source-path in the command line for every location that the find option could locate kernel-source, but none of them are what the driver install wizard wants.  Does anyone know which directory it's looking for?  I've installed the kernel source with apt-get.
[12:20] <Whisky`> redguy" yes, exactly.
[12:20] <god> hey sub, ipv6 is disabled and still no internet, yet i can still connect to irc etc.
[12:20] <redguy> Seveas, you have to be carefull to separate the data fom the antimatter drive from the data on the normal matter drive
[12:21] <Sub> god, did you edit your ff settings too?
[12:21] <god> yep
[12:21] <Sakunix>  /kiss whole room
[12:21] <Sakunix> you are all wonderful
[12:21] <Sub> god, it's obviously a dns issue, i cant think what though.
[12:22] <Sakunix> my baby is alive again woo
[12:22] <redguy> Whisky`, hmm this is something I have never seen or heard of
[12:22] <god> it work on my laptop though
[12:22] <god> it has to be a configuration issue in ubuntu
[12:22] <Whisky`> me neither:S
[12:22] <Sub> hmm god and you restarted yes?
[12:22] <god> yes
[12:23] <Sub> and god you follow the DAPPER instructions to disable ipv6, not the normal ones
[12:23] <god> normal
[12:23] <Whisky`> thanks anyway
[12:23] <redguy> Whisky`, would yo be so king and paste the output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda to the pastebin?
[12:23] <Whisky`> linux sucks like always
[12:23] <Whisky`> byeee
[12:23] <redguy> !pastebin > Whisky`
[12:23] <god> im not on dapper
[12:23] <redguy> :/
[12:23] <Seveas> there is just no pleasing some people
[12:23] <kizzume> I'm trying to install drivers for my nvidia card, and it's requring the location of the kernel source, and I've tried doing a --kernel-source-path in the command line for every location that the find option could locate kernel-source, but none of them are what the driver install wizard wants.  Does anyone know which directory it's looking for?  I've installed the kernel source with apt-get.
[12:24] <hawkaloogie> kizzume, why aren't you using the ubuntu package?
[12:24] <Sakunix> kizzume: I have just spent to past 4 hours doing it
[12:24] <Seveas> kizzume, your pursuing the wrong path
[12:24] <Seveas> !nvidia > kizzume
[12:24] <zcat[1] > kizzume: give up on the nvidia binary installer, use the nvidia-glx package
[12:24] <hawkaloogie> interestingly enough, not even 2 hours ago i just got done messing with that
[12:24] <kizzume> hawkaloogie: because I don't know about that package
[12:24] <Sakunix> kizzume: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:24] <redguy> Seveas, better off with him. I am still wondering how did he manage to connect to a normal matter irc server with his antimatter client ^_^
[12:24] <Kanpachi> hello, anyone ever installed from the alt/server cd and then apt-get ubuntu-desktop? is there any difference?
[12:24] <redguy> s/with/without/
[12:25] <zcat[1] > Kanpachi: yes. No.
[12:25] <Sakunix> anyone know how to create a virtual cd drive and mount iso images on them?
[12:25] <Seveas> Kanpachi, if you installed from the alternate cd: no, if you installed from the server cd: yes, you then have a server kernel
[12:25] <frogzoo> !loopback
[12:25] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[12:25] <webben> i asked this question yesterday but i don't think anyone happened to answer: i installed a load of kde packages but kde didn't get installed as a session option in gdm --- how do i do that?
[12:25] <Seveas> Sakunix, mount -o loop /[ath/to/iso /path/to/mountpoint
[12:25] <Kanpachi> i thought the alternative cd is the same as the servercd
[12:25] <blaster999> Sakunix: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 qwe.iso /mnt/fakecd
[12:25] <SVisor> kizzume: You could create symlink /usr/src/linux - thats the default path expected by most
[12:25] <Seveas> webben, install the kubuntu-desktop package
[12:25] <zcat[1] > very little difference afaik..
[12:26] <Sakunix> how many loop devs are there / can you make
[12:26] <blaster999> Sakunix: many :)
[12:26] <Sakunix> awesome will try it now
[12:26] <blaster999> Sakunix: 8 AFAIK
[12:26] <webben> Seveas: hmm thought i had installed that... apparently not though ... thanks :)
[12:26] <Seveas> webben, ksmserver: usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop
[12:26] <kizzume> zcat[1] :  I'll see if I can find that package somewhere, it wasn't on their site...
[12:26] <Seveas> you need at least that one
[12:27] <Sakunix> thats tops
[12:27] <zcat[1] > kizzume: it isn't. It's in multiverse I think
[12:27] <xanax`> hello
[12:27] <god> grrrrr! Why does linux hate me :(
[12:27] <SVisor> god: Hate back it helps ;-)
[12:27] <ragoo> it doesn't:)
[12:27] <Seveas> in soviet russia, you hate linux
[12:27] <redguy> hello xanax`
[12:27] <Seveas> err.. 
[12:27] <god> lol
[12:27] <Serious_Svenf> blaster999: I've downloaded the libqt3c102-mt deb file and installed it, the opera installation was successful, thanks for your help though. (I googled it up)
[12:28] <watson540> linux doesnt hate anyone its just prejudiced against non-googlers :)
[12:28] <Seveas> Serious_Svenf, congratulations on breaking your system!
[12:28] <god> has anyone else had a problem with web pages not loading and ipv6 diabled?
[12:28] <Serious_Svenf> Seveas: breaking?
[12:28] <blaster999> god: what's the error?
[12:28] <kizzume> zcat[1] :  Is there a location where I don't have to log in to get it?
[12:28] <blaster999> god: Or you just wait and they don't show up?
[12:29] <Seveas> Serious_Svenf, yeah, installing random packages in this way is a sure way to break things.
[12:29] <god> i can connect to the irc etc just not any webpages
[12:29] <kizzume> zcat[1] :  as in loggin into a site?
[12:29] <Seveas> but hey, have fun!
[12:29] <webben> god: is this all webpages or particular ones?
[12:29] <dragon______NEWB> hi
[12:29] <god> all
[12:29] <dragon______NEWB> hey dli
[12:29] <webben> god: and in all browsers or just in firefox?
[12:29] <god> yup
[12:29] <god> all
[12:30] <kizzume> zcat[1] :  never mind, there's 3 different multiverse sites... I chose the wrong one the first time, I still may have the wrong one...
[12:30] <webben> god: and everything's fine with ipv6 enabled?
[12:30] <god> no
[12:30] <SVisor> god: What does "host  www.whatever.wherever" tell you
[12:30] <zcat[1] > kizzume: run synaptic, add all the repos, then refresh, then find and click the nvidia-glx package..
[12:30] <blaster999> god: tru telnetting to a site. See if it works
[12:30] <blaster999> god: like "telnet www.google.com 80"
[12:30] <blaster999> and then type "get /"
[12:30] <zcat[1] > kizzume: assuming I'm following the right convo and you wanted the nvidia drivers?
[12:30] <Sakunix> this irc channal has got to be one of the most awesome places for help ever
[12:30] <god> i had to enable ipv6 at first to fix it, now its stopped working again
[12:30] <zcat[1] > kizzume: better still, just run easyubuntu
[12:30] <zcat[1] > !easyubuntu
[12:30] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:30] <Serious_Svenf> Seveas: I may be wrong in this, but I think the difference is just the name? because the version was thesame as the libqt3c-mt that ubuntu has
[12:30] <god> connected when telneting
[12:31] <linopil> Sakunix: sounds like it really is
[12:31] <Seveas> Serious_Svenf, why do you think thry changed the name?
[12:31] <Seveas> Maybe because they are incompatible....
[12:31] <Seveas> really, remove opera and that qt package
[12:31] <linopil> !Sakunix:
[12:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about Sakunix:
[12:31] <Seveas> and find a *proper ubuntu package* for opera
[12:31] <kizzume> zcat[1] :   easybuntu: command not found
[12:31] <dragon______NEWB> i need help
[12:31] <zcat[1] > See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[12:32] <blaster999> dragon______NEWB: what's the problem?
[12:32] <god> blaster999: its only when trying to access any web page that it doesnt work
[12:32] <dragon______NEWB> i want to install a program
[12:32] <Edgtho> zcat[1] : I'm having the same problem as kizzume, except, I can't get synaptec to work through command line.
[12:32] <Sakunix> kizzume: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:32] <Sakunix> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:32] <Sakunix> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:32] <dragon______NEWB> this is the first time ive used linux
[12:32] <dragon______NEWB> lol
[12:32] <Sakunix> thats 'should' help you
[12:32] <J-_> should my swap partition be full?
[12:32] <Sakunix> worked for me
[12:32] <Seveas> dragon______NEWB, which program?
[12:32] <zcat[1] > Sakunix: know an easy way to turn on the universe and multiverse repos through the command line?
[12:33] <frogzoo> J-_: how do you mean full?
[12:33] <dragon______NEWB> its the driver for my grafix card radeon 9550 256mb
[12:33] <Serious_Svenf> Seveas: no idea, but what was the other solution? :(
[12:33] <SVisor> god: Have you checked FF settings. Especially the "Connection settings"
[12:33] <linopil> dragon______NEWB: stick with it
[12:33] <god> yes
[12:33] <blaster999> zcat[1] : edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:33] <redguy> god, maybe it's related to your ISP?
[12:33] <Seveas> and find a *proper ubuntu package* for opera <-- Serious_Svenf
[12:33] <Seveas> !ati > dragon______NEWB
[12:33] <zcat[1] > I said _easy_ :-)
[12:33] <redguy> god, maybe http is only allowed through a proxy?
[12:33] <god> its all fine on my laptop though
[12:33] <Serious_Svenf> Seveas, I checked the opera repository, but it doesn't install the libqt3c102-mt
[12:33] <frogzoo> J-_: what does 'swapon -s' say?
[12:33] <webben> SVisor: he said same thing happens with other browsers
[12:33] <blaster999> zcat[1] : and then sudo apt-get update
[12:33] <dragon______NEWB> yes sev
[12:33] <dragon______NEWB> ati
[12:34] <Seveas> Serious_Svenf, when will you start listening....
[12:34] <SVisor> webben: Ah ok did see that
[12:34] <Seveas> dragon______NEWB, ubotu sent you some information
[12:34] <kizzume> I'm trying to get opengl working so a simple polygon doesn't have 4 frames a second.  Regular 2d displays are fine.  Will the "apt-get install nvidia-glx" take care of that?
[12:34] <haffouff> how to set a password for root ?
[12:34] <haffouff> !sudo
[12:34] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:34] <Serious_Svenf> Seveas: I'm googling my ass off here, give me a link to a proper package...
[12:34] <zcat[1] > kizzume: almost...
[12:34] <redguy> god, did you try telnetting a site like blaster999 suggested?
[12:34] <Seveas> kizzume, partially
[12:34] <god> yes, it worked
[12:34] <kizzume> So what's the answer to that?
[12:34] <Seveas> Serious_Svenf, applications  add aplications
[12:34] <haffouff> !su
[12:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about su
[12:34] <Seveas> and search for opera
[12:34] <J-_> /dev/hda5                               partition       746980  204696  -1
[12:34] <redguy> !root > haffouff
[12:34] <zcat[1] > kizzume: then you have to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or (easier) edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "nv" to "nvidia"
[12:35] <dsas> Serious_Svenf: add deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main as a repository
[12:35] <Seveas> kizzume, you'll have to enable it after installing with sudo nvidia-glx-enable
[12:35] <richee> anyone knows about USB ports? I have my USB port pins pushed inside, is there any way to get it repair or it's dead for ever
[12:35] <richee> ?
[12:35] <dragon______NEWB> ok
[12:35] <frogzoo> J-_: that's about 30% used in my books
[12:35] <Seveas> dsas, gnome-app-install does just that 
[12:35] <haffouff> !root
[12:35] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:35] <zcat[1] > .. or what Seveas said :)
[12:35] <Serious_Svenf> dsas: can I still remove libqt3c102-mt?
[12:35] <zcat[1] > Seveas: nvidia-glx-enable changes the xorg.conf I guess...
[12:35] <kizzume> thanks--hopefully it will work...
[12:36] <SVisor> god: Only thing I can think of is that FF still tries to use ipv6. But if its the same with other browsers then I do not know.
[12:36] <J-_> ah, i was looking in the disk manager. says 729mb's and the bar's full in green... figured it was full.. sorry
[12:36] <dsas> Seveas: Yeah remove whatever you've installed to get opera to work and use the version in the repos and whatever that depends on.
[12:36] <Seveas> zcat[1] , yup
[12:36] <god> opera does the same
[12:36] <dragon______NEWB> im told i have to compile packges or sumtin....eventualy making a program
[12:36] <dsas> Seveas: Ahh, I rarely run it tbh.
[12:36] <zcat[1] > Seveas: cool, will try and remember that. I've always just edited the file :)
[12:36] <webben> god: how about elinks? curl>
[12:36] <god> errrrr......explaine :p
[12:36] <haffouff> please how to set a password for root ??
[12:37] <zcat[1] > !sudo
[12:37] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:37] <redguy> haffouff, did you read the rootsudo page?
[12:37] <SVisor> god: Still try in FF to turn of ipv6: about:config - and change "network-dns.disableIPv6" to true
[12:37] <zcat[1] > haffouff: If you have to ask, you're not ready to know.
[12:37] <webben> god: Elinks is a text-based browser (apt-get install elinks) ... curl is a way of accessing the web _directly_ from the command line
[12:37] <god> already done
[12:37] <haffouff> yes
[12:37] <god> ah ok
[12:37] <Sakunix> kizzume: you all sorted now?
[12:37] <Serious_Svenf> dsas: how do I remove the libqt3c102-mt package when I installed it through a .deb package? (I'm not fully familiar with uninstalling programs when it's not installed with apt-get/synaptic)
[12:37] <SVisor> god: Argh.. then I do not know
[12:38] <god> me niether :(
[12:38] <Seveas> webben, apt uses http too, so it is an http test by itself to run apt-get install ;)
[12:38] <kizzume> would I do both nvidia-glx-enable (with modprobe or something?) AND edit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[12:38] <RShadow> hmm... can sombody explain whats wrong with my command /usr/sbin/shutdown -r -t 120 now .. this preforms a shutdown almost immediatly, however shouldn't it wait 120 seconds? (2min) before it does a shutdown
[12:38] <redguy> haffouff, do you know that with the root password disabled you can still open a root shell with sudo -i?
[12:38] <Seveas> Serious_Svenf, uninstall it with apt-get...
[12:38] <dsas> Serious_Svenf: dpkg --remove <package-name> or just use synaptic
[12:38] <Sakunix> kizzume:  no
[12:38] <zcat[1] > kizzume: no, one or the other.. not both .
[12:38] <god> hmmm..... apt doesnt work :(
[12:38] <kizzume> okay.  thanks
[12:38] <Linuturk> hey hey
[12:38] <Sakunix> kizzume: nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:38] <Seveas> god, then something is jamming port 80
[12:38] <Linuturk> someone give this guy a cookie >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192588&highlight=wusb54g
[12:39] <SonicChao> Linuturk: Hello
[12:39] <SonicChao> Linuturk: No spamming
[12:39] <SonicChao> Please.
[12:39] <kizzume> nvida-glx-config is not a command
[12:39] <redguy> haffouff, and the procedure to set the root passwdord is on the rootsudo page
[12:39] <god> hmmmm.... any idea how to find out what?
[12:39] <Serious_Svenf> sorry, thought it wasn't listed when I install it through a .deb package...
[12:39] <SVisor> god:  "sudo iptables -L"
[12:39] <haffouff> yes thanks
[12:39] <haffouff> sudo passwd root
[12:39] <Linuturk> SonicChao, not trying to spam. I'm just estatic that that guy had the fix to my problem.
[12:39] <zcat[1] > kizzume: nvidia-glx-enable ?
[12:39] <frogzoo> RShadow: lose the 'now'
[12:40] <SonicChao> Linuturk: It's okay...for most things that are off-topic, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:40] <ompaul> !rootsudo
[12:40] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:40] <zcat[1] > RShadow: shutdown -r +120    perhaps?
[12:40] <Sakunix> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:40] <Sakunix> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:40] <Sakunix> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:40] <god> SVisor what that acomplish?
[12:40] <kizzume> that's correct, it returns "command not found"
[12:40] <RShadow> frogzoo, I'll give that a shot, but I thought I tried that as well and it didn't work..
[12:40] <Seveas> Sakunix, the 3rd is not needed
[12:40] <Sakunix> those three cmd kizzume got it done for me
[12:40] <webben> god: shows your firewall settings
[12:40] <Sakunix> I had to reconfigure
[12:40] <Serious_Svenf> dsas: thanks alot, the repository was the answer I was looking for
[12:40] <ompaul> haffouff, we don't say that in this channel we do say - look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:40] <SVisor> god: Lists "firewall" settings. Should show not rules
[12:40] <webben> god: SVisor's wondering if iptables (the Linux firewall) is blocking your port 80.
[12:41] <g-nome> i don't have the overview in kernel.org ... where can i download there the newest, full kernel (source)?
[12:41] <god> theres no Not rules
[12:41] <Sakunix> when I hit up sudo nvidia-glx-config enable   xorg.conf said I had a ATI card
[12:41] <Sakunix> ><
[12:41] <god> whats queue mean?
[12:41] <SVisor> god: And all plicies are ACCEPT
[12:41] <Villelol> =)
[12:41] <Villelol> how can I use this software called toram?
[12:41] <god> ACCEPT or QUEUE
[12:41] <zcat[1] > kizzume: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf   find the line that says Driver "nv" and change it to Driver "nvidia"
[12:41] <redguy> god, how about telnet www.google.com ?
[12:42] <kizzume> Thanks--found that and did that.  Do I exit xserver and reload it, or do I restart or what now?
[12:42] <god> works
[12:42] <god> oh wait
[12:42] <zcat[1] > kizzume: although not having the command suggests that perhaps the nvidia-glx package is also not installed..
[12:42] <redguy> can you get /
[12:42] <dibblego> has anyone here successfully configured openssh with RSA authentication?
[12:42] <redguy> ?
[12:42] <god> i have to telnet it on port 80
[12:42] <Sakunix> just run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and you get a gui to choice that line
[12:42] <webben> god: how about telnet www.google.com 80
[12:42] <redguy> god, right, forgot about that
[12:42] <RShadow> frogzoo, now is argument supplied for "time" and is required.
[12:42] <Sakunix> its awesome it picks up your card name and pci busid automatically
[12:42] <god> done :)
[12:43] <webben> god: done? that worked?
[12:43] <Sakunix> so only thing you have to do is choose nv or nvidia
[12:43] <webben> connected fine?
[12:43] <god> yeh
[12:43] <kizzume> Well, if that's the case, it will go right along with working with a system admin for 8 hours on my soundcard, and I'll probably be trying another distro of linux after that... this distro has been a major headache...
[12:43] <webben> definitely try elinks
[12:43] <zcat[1] > Sakunix: if you have an ATI card, it might be a good idea to use the ati drivers instead.
[12:43] <god> cant install :p
[12:43] <god> apt-get doesnt work
[12:43] <webben> oh that's right
[12:43] <redguy> god, once conneted try issuing a get /
[12:44] <SVisor> god: "sudo iptables -P CHAIN ACCEPT" replace CHAIN with name of chain that is not ACCEPT
[12:44] <god> "connection refused"
[12:44] <webben> redguy - if *I* do that "get /" - i get Connection closed
[12:44] <J-_> is there an autocad program that i can run in linux?
[12:44] <kizzume> okay, well, I'm gonna restart now and see if it works.
[12:44] <webben> redguy: and my connection is fine
[12:44] <frogzoo> RShadow: man shutdown
[12:44] <kizzume> thanks all for all of your help.  YOu've had a lot of patience with me.
[12:44] <RShadow> frogzoo, shutdown -r +2 is what I needed.. and I'm looking at the man pages now
[12:45] <god> grrrr! i've tried everything
[12:45] <webben> god: do you have curl installed
[12:45] <Sakunix> kizzume you shoudl be able to alt-ctrl=backsapce
[12:45] <god> no
[12:45] <Sakunix> ahh I missed him
[12:45] <Sakunix> worste
[12:45] <zcat[1] > RShadow: oh.. you wanted 2 minutes, not two hours :)
[12:45] <haffouff> when i type apt-get upgrade i have this error Impossible de rcuprer http://dev:3142/tn.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libs/libsigc++-2.0/libsigc++-2.0-0c2a_2.0.16-3_i386.deb  Taille incohrente
[12:45] <RShadow> zcat[1] , lol.. ya
[12:46] <Sakunix> whats a good way to create iso images with linux
[12:46] <Sakunix> dd dont seem to work that well for me
[12:46] <zcat[1] > Sakunix: mkisofs
[12:46] <frogzoo> Sakunix: k3b is the best
[12:46] <Sakunix> way good
[12:46] <SVisor> god: It can only be a firewall or DNS trouble. Make sure all policy are ACCEPT and no chains are listed. That way we can be sure its not a firewall issue.
[12:46] <zcat[1] > generally mkisofs -R -J -o foo.iso directory_to_add/
[12:46] <frogzoo> Sakunix: dd works great so long as there's no copy protection
[12:46] <Knome> J-_ - there's a program called qcad
[12:46] <SonicChao> haffouff: What language is that in? Spanish?
[12:46] <god> my firewall is fine
[12:47] <haffouff> no french
[12:47] <webben> god: maybe check your host files look okay?
[12:47] <zcat[1] > for making iso images of an existing CD, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=foo.iso works quite well
[12:47] <SonicChao> haffouff: Oh, sorry, my bad, well if you're natively french, maybe you should ask in #ubuntu-fr where people will be able to read it.
[12:47] <ompaul> !fr
[12:47] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:48] <haffouff> !fr
[12:48] <god> my host files are fine :(
[12:48] <ompaul> haffouff, it onscreen for you now
[12:48] <SVisor> god: You did mention that not all was ACCEPT, but if you do not want to try that its fine by me.
[12:48] <god> its ok, the only ones that werent accept were moblock
[12:48] <JollyGnome> Good day to you people
[12:49] <god> which i no longer use
[12:49] <SonicChao> JollyGnome: Hi
[12:49] <haffouff> !fr
[12:49] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:49] <haffouff> #ubuntu-fr
[12:49] <SonicChao> haffouff: What the?
[12:49] <ompaul> haffouff, non,      /join #ubuntu-fr
[12:49] <JollyGnome> I just reinstalled breezy, the reason being that I tried yesterday to upgrade it to dapper, and it broke the system
[12:49] <m0gsi> Hey guys how do i broadcast a message over a terminal?
[12:49] <SonicChao> haffouff: Just type /join #ubuntu-fr
[12:50] <zcat[1] > m0gsi: echo "message" | wall
[12:50] <m0gsi> thx
[12:50] <JollyGnome> can anyone tell me how to upgrade from breezy (clean install, nothing added yet) to dapper
[12:50] <haffouff> ok
[12:50] <haffouff> thx
[12:50] <ompaul> !upgrade
[12:50] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[12:50] <g-nome> blaster999: should i place the kernel source in /usr/src or /usr/src/linux ?
[12:50] <Kizzume> Well, I'm back on Windows.  That didn't work at all, and it's the final straw for me and Ubuntu--I had better luck with debian, and that's supposed to be a harder to use distribution.
[12:50] <god> >.< im about to give up. thinkin of switchin back to windows :(
[12:50] <webben> god: might be worth doing a pastebin of /etc/network/interfaces
[12:50] <JollyGnome> thanks ubotu (you be a bot, eh?)
[12:51] <god> interfaces is fine, already checked it
[12:51] <Sakunix> Kizzume: you didnt need to restart
[12:51] <Sakunix> to restart the gui
[12:52] <Sakunix> alt-ctrl-backspace
[12:52] <zcat[1] > Sakunix: he did if he's dual-booting between ubuntu and windows :)
[12:52] <Sakunix> shuts down the gui
[12:52] <Sakunix> how was he talking to us before
[12:52] <Kizzume> Thanks all for your help, I feel bad about putting sobersabre through 8 hours of sound card troubleshooting just to have it fail in the end again.
[12:52] <zcat[1] > Sakunix: fairly certain he hasn't actually got multiverse going and never actually installed nvidia-glx..
[12:52] <Sakunix> ic
[12:52] <Sakunix> he/she sorry
[12:52] <Kizzume> I went through the steps that were told....
[12:53] <gandhi_2k6_> Hi, I had a problem with the root file system that had to be fixed manually using fschk upon startup but now while logining into my default system session on Dapper the Desktop doesn't load and only displays the background, if I select the session as "Gnome" it works but I cannot get Super User priveleges
[12:53] <zcat[1] > Kizzume: want to try again?
[12:53] <Sakunix> yer we are only ammatures too lol
[12:53] <Sakunix> Kizzume: what do you want to do with linux anyway
[12:53] <Kizzume> I don't know--I've now been working on this for 23 hours....
[12:53] <webben> zcat[1] :  what does nvidia-glx have to do with the sound card?
[12:53] <Sakunix> the nv drivers do the job for most people
[12:54] <zcat[1] > webben: he got sound going, he was trying to get 3d drivers
[12:54] <Kizzume> I want linux to be my internet and emulator machine and windows to be my productivity machine.
[12:54] <IRCMonkeyx> anyone experienced  in globespan usb modem adsl???
[12:54] <Sakunix> emulating?
[12:55] <Sakunix> Kizzume: SNES or seomthing?
[12:55] <zcat[1] > Sakunix: yeah, he wants to dual-boot linux so he can run wine on it :)
[12:55] <Kizzume> Old school computer emulation, like Vice and Frodo for c64, and mame, and n64, and stuff like that
[12:55] <Sakunix> yer all good
[12:55] <Sakunix> you would need the nvidia drivers for that
[12:55] <seamus> hey
[12:55] <jonah1980> hi guys, having problems - everytime i install something, update something or whatever from synaptic or terminal i get an error at the end: http://pastebin.ca/82346
[12:55] <Kizzume> there's a lot more versions of emulators for linux than there are for windows....
[12:56] <Sakunix> yer
[12:56] <Sakunix> well we are here if you want to try it again
[12:56] <jonah1980> selinux problem whatever that is, can anyone please help?
[12:56] <IRCMonkeyx> anyone experienced  in globespan usb modem adsl???
[12:56] <Kizzume> I've gotta go edit that file again back to nv instead of nvidia...  I just can't remember where it's located now...
[12:56] <zcat[1] > Kizzume: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:57] <hintswen> anyone here know a good VNC program for windows(yes i know this isn't a windows room) I used to use RealVNC but people said not to use it cause u can't fully un-install it
[12:57] <Knome> jonah1980: try sudo apt-get -f install
[12:57] <webben> Kizzume: what's your nvidia card? was there no decent howto for it?
[12:57] <redguy> hintswen, tighvnc
[12:57] <Kizzume> I've got a geforce fx 5500
[12:57] <Kizzume> 256mb
[12:57] <redguy> tightvnc that is
[12:57] <gandhi_2k6> Hi, I'm had to manually fix my root file system using fschck but now upon logging in to my default system session it just displays the background and fails to load the desktop
[12:57] <hintswen> thanks
[12:58] <zcat[1] > It's a three step process.. enable universe and multiverse repos, add nvidia-glx package, and change xorg.conf... I'm guessing you missed a step.
[12:58] <Kizzume> zcat[1] : what are universe and multiverse repos?
[12:59] <seamus> hey is anyone here running dapper
[12:59] <jonah1980> Knome: http://pastebin.ca/82348
[12:59] <Kizzume> zcat[1] :  I tried going to multiverse site, but none of them were the right site?  Is it .org, .com, .biz., .tv?
[12:59] <jonah1980> still errors
[12:59] <zcat[1] > run synaptic (it's on the system menu)
[12:59] <hintswen> if i use tightvnc, do i need to use tightvnc on my linux? or any vnc program?
[12:59] <zcat[1] > you don't go to any website. This isn't windows!
[12:59] <Sub> Kizzume, !universe
[12:59] <webben> kizzume: and what's exactly going wrong
[12:59] <Sub> !universe
[12:59] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:59] <bookLook> how to check if i have a user name squid created or not
[01:00] <zcat[1] > system > administration > synaptic
[01:00] <Kizzume> zcat[1] :  Okay.  First thing I've gotta do is edit that file... I'll be back....
[01:00] <bookLook> and if it is not there what is the command to create it ?
[01:00] <webben> Kizzume: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[01:00] <Fisk65> u\
[01:01] <hintswen> if i use tightvnc, do i need to use tightvnc on my linux? or any vnc program?
[01:01] <jonah1980> http://pastebin.ca/82348 - does anyone know what these selinux errors are and how i can fix them?
[01:01] <gatekeeper> hintswen, any should do
[01:01] <hintswen> k
[01:01] <Libra102> *** glibc detected *** vim: free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x08dc1258 ***
[01:01] <seamus> hintswen: use vnc4server "sudo apt-get install vnc4server"
[01:01] <Libra102> I have this message..
[01:02] <zcat[1] > Kizzume: the answer to your next question is sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:02] <gatekeeper> hintswen, I mix and match on windows machines
[01:02] <hintswen> umm, anyone wanna guide me through installing and setting up a VNC program on my ubuntu machine through the console? lol
[01:02] <Libra102> using the vi and.. saving..
[01:02] <ompaul> Libra102, what are you trying to edit?
[01:02] <seamus> hintswen: use vnc4server "sudo apt-get install vnc4server"
[01:02] <gandhi_2k6>  Hi, I'm had to manually fix my root file system using fschck but now upon logging in to my default system session it just displays the background and fails to load the desktop
[01:03] <hintswen> seamus, ok now what?
[01:03] <thenuke> jonah1980: google told me this. http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-beta-list/2004-April/msg00853.html
[01:03] <Libra102> my computer is Ubuntu and my server RedHat.
[01:03] <seamus> hintswen: well what exactly is it you want to do?
[01:03] <Libra102> ssh and.. vi ...
[01:03] <bookLook> is there any website where i can find all the conf files explained in easy english ?
[01:03] <hintswen> VNC my linux from my windows
[01:03] <bookLook> like squid.conf and httpd.conf
[01:03] <bookLook> ????????????????????????????????????????
[01:04] <ompaul> gandhi_2k6, some times you loose your desktop as it is - so you can removed the directory .gnome2 and it will all recreate at the next logon
[01:04] <donald> can i run photoshop in ubuntu
[01:04] <faddat> Can anyone tell me how to flush my DNS cache?
[01:04] <Libra102> [01:04] <Sakunix> donald: with effort yes
[01:04] <seamus> hintswen: so you can view your linux display in window sor vice-versa
[01:04] <thenuke> bookLook: tried googling?
[01:04] <hintswen> yea, so i can view linux from windows
[01:04] <faddat> Sakunix: are you still working on your NVIDIA card?
[01:04] <jonah1980> thenuke, thanks for that - what do you think it means?
[01:04] <Sakunix> donald: use gimp its the sa thing
[01:04] <bookLook> thenuke yes
[01:04] <zcat[1] > donald: yes, but gimp is easier and does most of the same stuff.. use gimpshop if you want something a little more like photoshop.
[01:05] <bookLook> cannot find
[01:05] <Sakunix> faddat: I got it working and now we have another people to help with the same issue
[01:05] <gandhi_2k6> thanks alot ompaul
[01:05] <seamus> hintswen: ok so your running ubuntu with gnome yea. get tightvnc and run it on windows
[01:05] <faddat> hehe gotcha man :)
[01:05] <Sakunix> Kizzume is also working on it
[01:05] <donald> thank you
[01:05] <faddat> Sakunix: you wouldn't know how to flush a DNS cache, would you?
[01:05] <DBO> faddat, unless you have installed a local DNS cacheing server, you dont HAVE a cache
[01:05] <faddat> I *really* need to do so
[01:06] <seamus> hintswen: in ubuntu enable desktop sharing
[01:06] <faddat> Oh holy hell!
[01:06] <jonah1980> thenuke, is the error important and is it effecting anything do you think? also should i do what is suggested booting "enforcing=0" or whatever?
[01:06] <jonah1980> thenuke, i don't want to bust anything!!
[01:06] <DBO> faddat, you are most likely connecting to a DNS server that hasnt updated itself for whatever you need just yet
[01:06] <seamus> hintswen: cant remember where it is, somewhere in the system menu, i'm running xfce
[01:06] <faddat> DBO:  So, I live in South Korea.  I cannot reach a few websites that I really like, I have no reason to believe that they are censored or whatever, I can reach them from other places.  I've changed my DNS server, and I've had no happy result.
[01:06] <seamus> hintswen: then connect to your linux box from windows, the port number will be 6000
[01:07] <hintswen> aww dam, can't do that unless i reboot it, can't reboot it cause then i won't be able to connect to IRC again lol
[01:07] <faddat> DBO:  Should I maybe reboot my computer?
[01:07] <hintswen> thx anyway
[01:07] <thenuke> jonah1980: I dont know anything about it.
[01:07] <DBO> faddat, i doubt that will help, its more likely your ISP has a transparent DNS that they are forcing you to use
[01:07] <faddat> that's the only thing I haven't tried.  I've enabled and disabled my card.  Could it need a full restart to get all that happy now?
[01:07] <seamus> hintswen: why do you need to reboot?
[01:07] <faddat> DBO: transparent DNS?
[01:07] <hintswen> seamus: cause it's frozen on the screensaver
[01:08] <Serious_Sven> What's the command for uninstalling a program that was installed using make?
[01:08] <DBO> faddat, their DNS server just replies to all DNS requests that come out of your box, whether you request from a different server or not
[01:08] <Stefano145> Hi. Can anybody help me with vmware workstation, please? I have an Ubutun 6.06 with kde and at every startup I have to reconfigure vmware, to be able to use it ... Anybody has a solution for this ? Kernel latest version i686 (i386 didn't go too)
[01:08] <seamus> hintswen: your win box? haha
[01:08] <zcat[1] > Serious_Sven: if you're lucky make uninstall will work
[01:08] <hintswen> seamus: no, the linux
[01:08] <DBO> faddat, its not that uncommon
[01:08] <faddat> DBO:  That sucks!  Damn, I knew I should have kept bitching when they couldn't get me fiber to my doorstep
[01:08] <ompaul> !language
[01:08] <DBO> faddat, you need to watch your language please
[01:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:08] <seamus> hintswen: ah type <ctrl>+<alt>+1
[01:08] <dragon______NEWB> it says to "Reconfigure Xserve"
[01:08] <faddat> DBO: gotcha
[01:08] <hintswen> seamus: that doesn't work
[01:09] <DBO> faddat, give it a day, if the DNS cache doesnt update, then start messing around with your box
[01:09] <seamus> hintswen: reboot you must do so it would seem
[01:09] <faddat> Well, I'm going to try restarting my computer, and hopefully I don't have a "transparent DNS"  Sadly, it's been more than a day :(
[01:09] <redguy> Serious_Sven, hah there isn't. but if you're lucky and you still have the sources you might try running make uninstall in the source directory
[01:09] <seamus> hintswen: sorry <ctrl>+<alt>+F1
[01:09] <DBO> faddat, ok, give it a run, nothing to lose
[01:09] <redguy> Serious_Sven, that'swhy you shoul install software from packages...
[01:10] <faddat> Other people in Asia are having trouble with the same tracker, but it's been identified as a DNS issue, so I used a US-based DNS server in my config
[01:10] <Stefano145> naybody has a solution for my problem?
[01:10] <hintswen> seamus: yeah but i can't just reboot it, it's running a IRCD linked with 2 other servers(or 1 dunno how many are up at this time) and i don't think the IRCD starts automaticly
[01:10] <zcat[1] > last house I was in they ran a big fibre bundle right past the front. And I didn't have anything to splice into it, damn!!
[01:10] <webben> Serious_Sven: failing that you could try a) deleting manually b) creating a package with checkinstall, listing its contents, and using that as a guide to deleting manually
[01:10] <faddat> DBO:  One more question before I bounce-- How can my ISP grab requests going to a DNS server in the USA?  I guess I don't know as much as I thought about networking...
[01:10] <hintswen> seamus: also for some stange reason i can't connect to the other servers, so if i reboot it and the IRCD doesn't start then i'm screwed
[01:10] <DBO> faddat, why not just add it to your /etc/hosts if its something like a tracker?
[01:10] <redguy> hintswen, running ircd on a box with a screensaver?
[01:11] <hintswen> seamus: i'm also playing irpg, so i gotta get this box onto a different server before i reboot lol
[01:11] <faddat> DBO:  Manually add the hard IP address?
[01:11] <DBO> faddat, sure, if you think it might possibly be blocked by your ISP
[01:11] <hintswen> seamus: the screensaver WAS disabled, i dunno what happened! i think the patch enabled it lol
[01:11] <seamus> hintswen: is <ctrl>+<alt>+F1 not working?
[01:11] <faddat> Actually.....
[01:11] <dragon______NEWB> n e 1 got sum free time on there hands?
[01:11] <hintswen> seamus: nothing works
[01:11] <ompaul> !ask
[01:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:11] <Serious_Sven> webben: I installed the AMSN svn package manually, used to work fine until today :-)
[01:11] <DBO> faddat, that would aslo bypass any local DNS caching server you may have set up
[01:11] <seamus> hintswen: well if nothing is working then the server isn't working either
[01:11] <faddat> DBO:  Do you think you could ping torrents.conspiracycentral.net and grab me the IP address?
[01:11] <hintswen> seamus: well it is
[01:12] <hintswen> seamus: i'm connected to it, and i'm SSHing it aswell
[01:12] <faddat> They serve a radio show that I've been going nuts not having
[01:12] <seamus> hintswen: was just gonna say ssh in and just kill xscreensaver
[01:12] <DBO> faddat, only because we are such good friends 72.36.187.35
[01:12] <zcat[1] > torrents.conspiracycentral.net has address 72.36.187.35
[01:12] <zcat[1] > damn too slow!
[01:12] <faddat> Thanks a bunch man :)
[01:12] <hintswen> seamus: how to kill?
[01:12] <DBO> faddat, good luck
[01:13] <seamus> from the console type "sudo kill -9 `pidof xscreensaver`"
[01:13] <Foobal> I recommend a high powered sniper rifle but it's just me
[01:13] <zcat[1] > if it was North Korea I could see them blocking it....
[01:13] <DBO> faddat, if you dont mind, stop by #ubuntu-offtopic some time, I'd really like to find out what the censoring conditions in korea are
[01:13] <seamus> i think it's xscreensaver anyway
[01:13] <hintswen> seamus: usage thing came up, are you shure that's right?
[01:13] <faddat> DBO:  I'll do that after I reboot-- I think they may actually be quite bad
[01:14] <DBO> faddat, ok =)
[01:14] <darkowl> i need some help
[01:14] <darkowl> i want to know how can i record my screen ?
[01:14] <seamus> no i'm not
[01:14] <darkowl> using what program ?
[01:14] <faddat> DBO:  it's either that or I'm an idiot, but I'm starting to think the former because I cannot reach that IP address.
[01:14] <darkowl> i tryed istanbul but it isn't good
[01:14] <bertu> Hey does someone have a deskjet 845c?
[01:14] <seamus> try "sudo ps x" and find the screensaver process in there
[01:14] <DBO> faddat, i can ping it fine, sounds like you are getting filtered
[01:15] <hintswen> seamus: was trying that :p
[01:15] <DBO> faddat, if you cant ping it by IP no sense in rebooting here, its not a DNS issue anywhere
[01:15] <albacker> how can you know what version of ubuntu you have installed ? breezy/hoary/dapper/edge ?
[01:15] <RShadow> darkowl, I've looked for a solution to your problem for some time, however the only solution I could find was to run windows and use camtasia to record a linux session under vmware
[01:15] <hintswen> seamus: can't find it :( i'm unlucky
[01:15] <zcat[1] > try mtr, soo how far it traces?
[01:15] <zcat[1] > *see
[01:16] <zcat[1] > RShadow: istanbul ?
[01:16] <bertu> Hey does someone have a deskjet 845c? if yes can someone explain how can i install it?
[01:16] <darkowl> RShadow: i don't have windows
[01:16] <Foobal> darkowl: enable the vnc server from Preferences ("Remote Desktop") and there is a recording software that records actually what the vnc "user" sees
[01:16] <seamus> hintswen: try just ps x then
[01:16] <hintswen> seamus: what is the time colum?
[01:16] <RShadow> zcat[1] , huh?
[01:16] <zcat[1] > darkowl: istanbul desktop recorder will record an ogg video of your desktop
[01:17] <hintswen> seamus: 4302 ?        Rs   357:57 [Xorg] 
[01:17] <bertu> Hey does someone have a deskjet 845c? if yes can someone explain how can i install it?
[01:17] <bertu> Hey does someone have a deskjet 845c? if yes can someone explain how can i install it?
[01:17] <RShadow> zcat[1] , your kiddin me.. well that is well awsome news.. going to go check it out
[01:17] <hintswen> seamus: is that it?
[01:17] <seamus> hintswen: thats the x server
[01:17] <darkowl> zcat[1] : I already tried it but it is not wokring properly
[01:17] <hintswen> seamus: which means? lol
[01:17] <bertu> Hey can You help me plsssss?
[01:17] <hintswen> seamus: 13381 ?        Ss     0:00 gnome-screensaver
[01:18] <zcat[1] > It needs a fairly fast machine .. my 1ghz is too slow but it kinda recorded 2fps ...
[01:18] <seamus> hintswen: thats the one. kill it
[01:18] <bertu> HELLO?
[01:18] <Nameeater> I have no sound in movies, does anyone know why? it may have been after upgrading
[01:18] <Nameeater> with dapper
[01:18] <seamus> hintswen: "sudo kill -9 13381"
[01:18] <RShadow> zcat[1] , hmm.. doesn't look like it records audio however
[01:19] <hintswen> seamus: no difference on screen
[01:19] <bertu> HELP!!!!!!!!!!1
[01:19] <seamus> is is still running?
[01:19] <ompaul> !caps
[01:19] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:19] <hintswen> seamus: maybe it's my gfx card, cause my gfx card is stuffed lol
[01:19] <hintswen> seamus: not running i think
[01:19] <bertu> can someone notice me pls
[01:20] <ompaul> bertu, ask your question - Of the channel and then it will be considerd
[01:20] <bertu> Hey does someone have a deskjet 845c? if yes can someone explain how can i install it?\
[01:20] <jrib> !printing > bertu
[01:20] <seamus> do you have any gui progs running that you can't lose?
[01:20] <hintswen> probably not
[01:20] <ompaul> bertu, Desktop - Menu   -- system administration printing
[01:20] <bertu> yes
[01:20] <bertu> i went there
[01:20] <seamus> then kill the x server or just try restarting it "<ctrl>+<backspace>"
[01:21] <hintswen> seamus: as long as the ircd doesn't close i don't care what programs close
[01:21] <seamus> sorry  "<ctrl>+<alt><backspace>"
[01:21] <hintswen> seamus: Xorg?
[01:21] <zcat[1] > last coupld of printers I set up, I just plugged them in and a new printer dialog popped up..
[01:21] <gatekeeper> bertu, is your printer not listed?
[01:21] <Kizzume> Is there a version of the package manager that runs in a shell so I can just quickly highlight almost everything?  (like during the initial install of debian)?
[01:21] <bertu> yes
[01:21] <hintswen> seamus: ctrl + alt +backspace did nothing
[01:21] <bertu> it tis listed
[01:22] <bertu> and when i choose the driver
[01:22] <seamus> then kill x.org
[01:22] <bertu> it tells me to choose a file
[01:22] <hintswen> seamus: i killed Xorg but it didn't die
[01:22] <softriver> I need serious help if someone has an opportunity.
[01:22] <webben> kizzume: aptitude
[01:22] <webben> kizzume: but i can't stand its interface myself
[01:23] <webben> kizzume: but i think aptitude is what debian is using
[01:23] <spiderbatdad> softriver: serious help?
[01:23] <webben> kizzume: and i think it's installed by default
[01:23] <Kizzume> Thanks. :)
[01:23] <seamus> then try "sudo killall -15 gdm" (gdm=gnome display manager)
[01:23] <gatekeeper> bertu, would suggest you need to google for a linux driver for it
[01:23] <zcat[1] > Kizzume: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:23] <hintswen> seamus: it's still there
[01:23] <softriver> I followed the documentation instructions on how to install the nVidia  drivers, and now I can't boot my system.
[01:23] <jonah1980> hi does anyone know how to install xgl and compiz (i'd like that spinning cube thing!)? i've tried the tutoria in forum but it just throws up errors
[01:23] <bertu> i check google?
[01:24] <seamus>  /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:24] <Zalazale> hi, how to make bootable DVD (for ubuntu 6.06)?
[01:24] <jrib> !xgl
[01:24] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:24] <softriver> I'm running from LiveCD atm, and I can't access my hd to back up my files and reinstall.
[01:24] <hintswen>  * Stopping GNOME Display Manager...                                                                                  [ ok ] 
[01:24] <hintswen>  * Starting GNOME Display Manager...                                                                                  [fail] 
[01:24] <seamus> sudo  /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:25] <narfmaster> softriver, no grub or splash or anything?
[01:25] <hintswen> seamus: gave OK for both, but still screensaver on screen
[01:25] <ninuhadida_> hintswem: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:25] <spiderbatdad> softriver: i'm not sure but i don't think you can install drivers while running live cd
[01:25] <hintswen> Stopping GNOME Display Manager...                                                                                  [ ok ] 
[01:25] <bertu> it tells me to select a ppd file
[01:25] <bertu> for the printer
[01:25] <Nameeater> !info libxine-extracodecs
[01:25] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[01:25] <ninuhadida_> now run: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[01:25] <softriver> It will start to load the splash screen, but will xWindows will crash, then reboot.
[01:25] <hintswen> screensaver still on screen
[01:25] <seamus> or even sudo /etc/init.d/gdm force-reload
[01:26] <hintswen> tried all them, still screensaver on screen
[01:26] <softriver> spiderbatdad:  I was installing the drivers from a standard installation.  I'm running LiveCD just so I can seek help. ;)
[01:26] <zcat[1] > screensaver??
[01:26] <spiderbatdad> softriver: my understanding is that the live cd is for trying linux w/out altering your system
[01:26] <zcat[1] > hintswen: try ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:26] <nomin> softriver: maybe you can try a different live cd.  Knoppix is a good one.  I've backed up data after messing up my system using knoppix.
[01:26] <seamus> hintswen: sorry then i think i'm a little stumped
[01:27] <hintswen> ctrl alt backspace does nothing
[01:27] <narfmaster> softriver, you are saying that the computer boots on its own?
[01:27] <gatekeeper> bertu, http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_driver.cgi?driver=hpijs
[01:27] <seamus> hintswen: are you sure then there is no gnome-screensaver process?
[01:27] <nomin> *I've backed up data using knoppix
[01:27] <spiderbatdad> softriver: your beyond my help then...I have too little experience, but i believe patience on this channel will pay off
[01:27] <hintswen> seamus: yes
[01:27] <pinkman> Hello
[01:27] <softriver> narfmaster:  It will begin to boot, then xWindows will begin to initialize, and it will reboot.
[01:28] <pinkman> Can anyone help me, im trying to fix streaming videos in fire fox
[01:28] <narfmaster> softriver, which docs did you follow?
[01:28] <pinkman> I have tried sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[01:28] <bertu> ok i am printing 10x
[01:28] <pinkman> and I got an error
[01:28] <hintswen> seamus: process list thing: http://rafb.net/paste/results/UTreq489.html
[01:28] <softriver> narfmaster:  The official documentation for installing nVidia drivers.  Want me to see if I can find the page again?
[01:29] <pinkman> Can anyone help me
[01:29] <webben> if i want to add a /opt/ruby/bin directory to the path for all users including root, where is the best place to do that with dapper? is it still /etc/environment?
[01:29] <narfmaster> softriver, you mean the nvidia docs?
[01:29] <Sakunix> I cant eject a cd? what have I done
[01:29] <spiderbatdad> pinkman have you removed totem gstreamer in synaptic and replaced w/ totem xine?
[01:29] <seamus> hintswen: if you want me to look into it more then can you set up a guest ac on your box and let me ssh in
[01:29] <softriver> nerfmaster:  The ubuntu docs.
[01:29] <zcat[1] > !nvidia
[01:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:29] <zcat[1] > those?
[01:29] <seamus> hintswen: kill all these 18086 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/gdm
[01:29] <seamus> 18087 ?        S      0:00 /usr/sbin/gdm
[01:29] <seamus> 18102 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/lib/gdm/gdmopen -l /bin/sh -c /usr/bin/whiptail --yesno 'There already appears to be an X ser
[01:29] <seamus> 18103 tty8     Ss+    0:00 /usr/lib/gdm/gdmopen -l /bin/sh -c /usr/bin/whiptail --yesno 'There already appears to be an X ser
[01:29] <ompaul> !paste
[01:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:29] <nomin> softriver: what happens when you try to boot your system?
[01:29] <ompaul> seamus, please read that last comment by ubotu
[01:30] <hintswen> seamus: ok, can i PM you?
[01:30] <seamus> sorry
[01:30] <ompaul> k
[01:30] <seamus> i'm new here
[01:30] <hintswen> really? u sound like youre not lol
[01:30] <hintswen> seamus: can i PM you?
[01:30] <softriver> nomin:  It will go to the splash screen (loading hardware drivers, etc.) then it will throw up a screen that says xServer failed, system halt, and reboot.
[01:30] <spiderbatdad> anyone have experience with VMware player
[01:31] <narfmaster> i just used vmplayer a little while ago
[01:31] <nomin> softriver: maybe you can try to boot it without the xwindow system starting, then fix it.
[01:31] <quellhorst> im trying to run an app. but it wont because i need libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3... what do i install to get this?
[01:31] <spiderbatdad> narfmaster: i get file not found everytime i try to start
[01:31] <pinkman> No I havnt
[01:31] <Sakunix> anyone have any ideas why I cant get a cd out of my cd rom drive?
[01:31] <softriver> nomin:  I'm new to linux.  Is there a source you might recommend that can walk me through that process?
[01:32] <hintswen> seamus: ?
[01:32] <spiderbatdad> pinkman: that solved my streaming problems
[01:32] <pinkman> im replacing now
[01:32] <seamus> hey yea sorry
[01:32] <narfmaster> spiderbatdad, you might have to check the vmx file
[01:32] <hintswen> lol, can i PM you?
[01:32] <jrib> Sakunix: have you tried: right click > eject
[01:33] <narfmaster> spiderbatdad, double check the filenames
[01:33] <seamus> no sorry
[01:33] <seamus> go to #uusc
[01:33] <hintswen> k
[01:33] <nomin> softriver: my knowledge in linux is average at the moment.  I don't know exactly what to do on Ubuntu to start it up without the xwindow system, but I'm pretty sure there is a way.  I think the livecd or the install cd has a 'rescue' option on it for just this type of thing.
[01:33] <spiderbatdad> narfmaster: that's the file it says is not found. I piont to it after start up. it has the configuration script, but meg=file not found
[01:34] <pinkman> er
[01:34] <pinkman> it worked for a second
[01:34] <pinkman> then just stopped
[01:34] <nomin> softriver: I'll look for a site
[01:34] <narfmaster> spiderbatdad, that's kind of weird
[01:34] <softriver> nomin:  Thank you.  I deeply appreciate it.
[01:34] <Sakunix> jrib: tried that nothing
[01:35] <Sakunix> tried sudo eject
[01:35] <Sakunix> nothing
[01:35] <spiderbatdad> pinkman: have you read "restricted formats?"
[01:35] <pinkman> the thing is.. that it worked fine befor I reformatted a few seconds ago..
[01:35] <pinkman> and last tie all I did was use 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer'
[01:35] <jrib> Sakunix: hmm don't know then, might want to just reboot
[01:35] <pinkman> and it worked fine
[01:35] <Sakunix> yer going to have to I think
[01:36] <nomin> softriver: or I could just ask in here...
[01:36] <narfmaster> spiderbatdad, you also have a vmdk file there?
[01:36] <nomin> How do I start Ubuntu without starting X?
[01:36] <spiderbatdad> narfmaster: yes in the dapper folder
[01:36] <redblades> Hi all, I was wondering, is Apache 2.2 out for Ubuntu yet???
[01:36] <Knome> Sakunix: have you tried 'eject /dev/cdrom?
[01:36] <redblades> I really really want it.
[01:37] <softriver> nomin:  Either way is cool.  I'm also googling for a way to access my partition from LiveCD.  If I can retrieve my data to my external drive, then I can just reinstall without losing much.
[01:37] <pinkman> how to install rar?
[01:37] <pinkman> the extensions?
[01:37] <jrib> !rar > pinkman
[01:37] <wrathlo>  hi there
[01:38] <pinkman> event not gounf
[01:38] <pinkman> found*
[01:38] <quellhorst> im trying to install something... but us.archive.ubuntu.com 146.137.96.7 doesnt seem to be working
[01:38] <wrathlo> does ubuntu need an antivirus?
[01:38] <jrib> !rar
[01:38] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[01:38] <nomin> softriver: open a console and type "fdisk -l" (without quotes).  This will show you your partitions.  You may have to log in as root to do this.  If so just type "sudo fdisk -l".
[01:39] <softriver> nomin:  k.  sec.
[01:39] <narfmaster> wrathlo, not yet
[01:39] <pinkman> !rar doesnt work
[01:39] <wrathlo> ic
[01:39] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: only to protect windows boxes on your network if you are email server that sort of thing
[01:39] <bertu> emm
[01:39] <quellhorst> umm... wish the help here was better
[01:39] <bertu> i have a problem with amarock
[01:39] <jrib> pinkman: !rar is for the channel, it made ubotu say the information you need.  You see it?
[01:39] <YtseJam> Hmmm, so I mananged to supposedly mount my partitions on the LiveCD yet when trying to view them, an error msg shows up, saying I don't have View Premissions...
[01:39] <spiderbatdad> narfmaster: i have qemu-dapper.vmdk
[01:39] <frogzoo> has anyone installed clvm or redhat-cluster-suite and had problems? I have both of them half installed, & they seem to depend on each other & refuse to fully install, & also refuse to uninstall
[01:39] <wrathlo> is it possible for us to view wmv files?
[01:39] <pinkman> Yes.
[01:40] <BlueEagle> pinkman: why doesn't !rar work?
[01:40] <pinkman> It works.
[01:40] <wrathlo> how is that?
[01:40] <gatekeeper> bertu: which is?
[01:40] <quellhorst> pinkman: but not wmv3
[01:40] <softriver> nomin:  Here's the output-
[01:40] <softriver> /dev/hda1   *           1        9682    77770633+  83  Linux
[01:40] <jrib> wrathlo: (mplayer or xine) with w32codecs
[01:40] <redblades> Apache 2.2?????
[01:40] <mc__> !rar
[01:40] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[01:40] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: how is what?
[01:40] <redblades> !apache2.2.
[01:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about apache2.2.
[01:40] <bertu> em
[01:40] <quellhorst> im trying to install something... but us.archive.ubuntu.com 146.137.96.7 doesnt seem to be working
[01:40] <redblades> !apache2.2
[01:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about apache2.2
[01:40] <redblades> !apache
[01:40] <jonah1980> hi i tried the xgl easy script which didn't work and also the official tutorial, both just send the screen brown for a while and then black and then back to login and now i've got two Xgl session options in my options login list - how can i get rid of one and make one work?!
[01:40] <wrathlo> how can we view wmv files?
[01:40] <bertu> i am trying to play songs
[01:40] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:40] <mc__> !apache2
[01:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about apache2
[01:40] <quellhorst> anyone have any ideas?
[01:40] <nomin> softriver: in order to mount a partition, you need to first create a folder somewhere.  Then you mount the partition in that folder.
[01:40] <wrathlo> which player do we use?
[01:40] <wrathlo> or have to download?
[01:41] <wrathlo> i seen to have a problem viewing wmv files
[01:41] <pinkman> Okie, well.. im still confused on why nothing seems to be working.. befor I remformatted I fixed these simply with rar: 'sudo apt-get install rar unrar' and straming video: 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer'
[01:41] <pinkman> now they dont work at all.
[01:41] <BlueEagle> wrathlo: both mplayer and vlc are nice imo.
[01:41] <bertu> but at first it tells me the name of the song...2 secons later it tells me "playlist finiched
[01:41] <dragon______NEWB> whois dli
[01:41] <dragon______NEWB> ...
[01:41] <dragon______NEWB> lol
[01:41] <jrib> pinkman: you need to enable multiverse and universe
[01:41] <jrib> !repos > pinkman
[01:41] <BlueEagle> pinkman: have you got all your repositories in order?
[01:41] <pinkman> I did
[01:41] <bertu> brb
[01:41] <BlueEagle> !source-o-matic
[01:41] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:42] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: I can view wmv files using kaffine which is installed by default
[01:42] <jrib> pinkman: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[01:42] <softriver> nomin:  ok.  I created a folder.  Do I mount the partition from the terminal?
[01:42] <wrathlo> how do i look for kaffine?
[01:42] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: more than likely a codecs issue
[01:42] <narfmaster> spiderbatdad, i'm not sure qemu images will work with vmplayer
[01:42] <YtseJam> After mounting my paritions via the LiveCD, I am still unable to access them and get a 'no view premissions' error. HELP.
[01:42] <nomin> softriver: but when you mount a partition, you sometimes might want the right permissions, so you can include extra stuff in the command in order to get read/write permissions.
[01:42] <wrathlo> im sorry im new ro ununtu
[01:42] <BlueEagle> softriver: sudo mount /dev/<devicenode> /path/to/mountpoint
[01:42] <wrathlo> ubuntu i mean
[01:42] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: I am using kubuntu
[01:42] <jrib> YtseJam: what filsystem do they use?
[01:42] <BlueEagle> softriver: that will work in 90% of all cases.
[01:42] <nomin> softriver: yes, you mount it from the terminal
[01:42] <narfmaster> spiderbatdad, fortunately vmware server is free
[01:42] <YtseJam> ntfs.
[01:43] <spiderbatdad> narfmaster: i will start there then thanks
[01:43] <pinkman> brb
[01:43] <ubuntu_> hi
[01:43] <Knome> wrathlo: apt-cache search kaffeine
[01:43] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: not sure what the default is for gnome
[01:43] <YtseJam> I create /media/win_private and then did mount -t ntfs /dev/hda5 /media/win_private
[01:43] <softriver> nomin and BlueEagle:  ok.  one sec while I try this out.  (and thank you both)
[01:43] <wrathlo> is it possible to install exe files like winamp?
[01:43] <gatekeeper> !codecs
[01:43] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:43] <YtseJam> And while the mount succeded, I still couldn't view the content
[01:43] <jrib> wrathlo: you can use wine, but usually there are very good linux alternatives
[01:44] <BlueEagle> ytsejam: You might have mounted it without giving everyone permission to read from the filesystem.
[01:44] <wrathlo> ic
[01:44] <quellhorst> im trying to install something... but us.archive.ubuntu.com 146.137.96.7 doesnt seem to be working
[01:44] <wrathlo> which alternatives are those?
[01:44] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: have you got w32codecs installed?
[01:44] <wrathlo> i dont think i have
[01:44] <jrib> YtseJam: unmount and mount with 'sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/hda5 /media/win_private'
[01:44] <bertu> bk
[01:44] <wrathlo> how do i look for that?
[01:45] <jrib> quellhorst: try a different mirror
[01:45] <hintswen> what's the command to open a cd drive?
[01:45] <jrib> !w32codecs > wrathlo
[01:45] <quellhorst> jrib: how/where do i define that?
[01:45] <YtseJam> Will try.
[01:45] <jrib> quellhorst: /etc/apt/sources.list , just substitude "us." with a different two letter country code
[01:45] <BlueEagle> ytsejam: why are you rebooting all the time?
[01:45] <softriver> nomin and BlueEagle:  You guys rock so much!  My data's backing up to the external now!  *8^>
[01:45] <BlueEagle> softriver: goodie! :)
[01:46] <YtseJam> BlueEagle, because I am still experiementing with the LiveCD
[01:46] <YtseJam> Didn't make the switch just yet
[01:46] <Leira> howto use debtags in ubuntu? i cannot find any tags in aptitude~  i do have debtags installed
[01:46] <bertu> can some one help me about amorock
[01:46] <BlueEagle> ytsejam: Ahh, I see. Still I do not see why you need to reboot. There are IRC clients on the livecd.
[01:46] <jrib> bertu: what's wrong with it?
[01:46] <bertu> it doesnt play music
[01:46] <YtseJam> BlueEagle, because my PCI (internal ADSL) modem will not get recognized
[01:46] <nomin> softriver: you could then try to rescue the system by starting it without x
[01:46] <webben> is it possible to reload etc/environment (containing the path) without rebooting?
[01:47] <BlueEagle> ytsejam: I see. Which modem is that?
[01:47] <YtseJam> Samsung AHT-N120
[01:47] <nomin> softriver: maybe "xorgconfig" would help
[01:47] <narfmaster> bertu, you mean amarok?
[01:47] <bertu> yes
[01:47] <bertu> spelimg mistake ;)
[01:47] <bertu> so
[01:47] <bertu> what can i do
[01:48] <bertu> when i choose the song
[01:48] <ompaul> !enter
[01:48] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[01:48] <gatekeeper> bertu: configure amaroK -> engine?
[01:48] <ompaul> bertu, read ubotu
[01:48] <bertu> xine
[01:48] <softriver> nomin:  For now I'm just going to reinstall (Only losing a few updates and an application), and I'm just not confident enough to mess around with the console trying to recover things just yet.
[01:49] <Timor^> hi, i would like to install X mail with apt-get
[01:49] <bertu> The engie that i use is the xine engine
[01:49] <gatekeeper> bertu: System Settings -> Sound -> Test button any sound?
[01:49] <softriver> nomin and BlueEagle:  I do want to say thanks to both of you, though.  I was terrified of making the leap to Linux, and you guys just made that a lot easier for me.
[01:49] <bertu> let me check
[01:49] <nomin> softriver: I had some display problems when I installed dapper a few weeks ago.
[01:50] <Knome> Timor^: sudo apt-get install xmail
[01:50] <Timor^> hi, i would like to install X mail with apt-get, where can i browse the application list ?
[01:50] <BlueEagle> softriver: That's why we're here. That and to feed the trolls. :p
[01:50] <_nano_> hi has anyone installed aiglx on their desktop?
[01:50] <narfmaster> Timor^, make sure you have universe enabled
[01:50] <bertu> gatekeeper: where is the system settings located...just to tell you i played songs with other progames
[01:50] <YtseJam> BlueEagle, the auto-detect feature in Networking doesn't seem to find it and no matter which port I set it on, it doesn't work...
[01:50] <nettogrof> *Restarting (Brb)
[01:51] <BlueEagle> ytsejam: I must say that it doesn't look bright. I don't think there is a kernel module for that modem. :(
[01:51] <gatekeeper> bertu: that's ok so you have sound
[01:51] <Timor^> narfmaster; im running with no gui only console..how do i enable it ?
[01:51] <BlueEagle> ytsejam: That's why you should have gotten the external modem :p
[01:51] <narfmaster> Timor^, add it to /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:51] <nomin> softriver:  when you start linux again, (probably after you reinstall it) press ctrl+alt+f1.  This gives you access to the console.  You can shut down X from there and configure your display.  Type "startx" to start it after you have it configured.
[01:51] <YtseJam> BlueEagle, same case as 4 years ago... :)
[01:51] <gatekeeper> bertu: are you trying to play mp3?
[01:52] <bertu> look...i choose the song...on the top appears the name of the song then after 1-2 seconds it tells me playlist finished
[01:52] <nomin> softriver: ctrl+alt+F1 to F6 gives you acces to 6 console session.  ctrl+alt+F7 gets back into X.
[01:52] <bertu> yes they are mp3's...but still i i played mp3 with other programes...i downloaded a plugin for mp3;'s
[01:53] <YtseJam> I'll go try the mounting again
[01:53] <gatekeeper> bertu: hang on...
[01:53] <bertu> ok
[01:53] <bertu> tyt
[01:53] <redblades> Has anyone answered my question about Apache 2.2????????????
[01:54] <softriver> nomin:  Awesomeness!  (writing that down)  I was trying to figure that out earlier, also, since the nVidia installer required me to be in console without xWindows running.
[01:54] <Timor^> narfmaster; thnx
[01:54] <ompaul> redblades
[01:54] <Timor^> Knome; thnx
[01:54] <narfmaster> Timor^, you're welcome
[01:54] <redblades> yah?
[01:54] <Knome> np
[01:54] <nomin> softriver: "xorgconfig" should let you configure your display
[01:54] <redblades> ompaul, yah?
[01:55] <gatekeeper> !amaroK
[01:55] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[01:55] <nomin> softriver: actually, that's not it.  I'll have to find it.  It's similar, i did it a few weeks ago.
[01:55] <ompaul> redblades, I was actually searching for your nick to find your question -seems I did not just enter it in the dialog box
[01:55] <redblades> Heheh oka
[01:55] <redblades> y
[01:55] <Timor^> package xmail is not available
[01:55] <bertu> i am ubuntu not kubuntu
[01:55] <softriver> nomin:  I still need to get the nVidia driver installed before I can bust out of 1024x768, though, right?
[01:56] <narfmaster> Timor^, apt-get update
[01:56] <bertu> softriver: i dont think so
[01:56] <ompaul> redblades, the latest stable is Server version: Apache/2.0.55
[01:56] <ompaul> !timetable > redblades
[01:56] <bertu> when i didnt have drivers i had 1280*1024
[01:56] <wildman> hello, does someone know if there are Eclipse 3.2 packages from dapper x86_64 ?
[01:56] <ompaul> redblades, please read the message from ubotu
[01:56] <nomin> softriver: I was able to get 1024x768 before installing the nvidia driver.
[01:57] <kthread> hola a todos
[01:57] <wildman> from -> for
[01:57] <kthread> fi
[01:57] <ompaul> !es
[01:57] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:57] <redblades> kthread, hola!
[01:57] <gatekeeper> bertu: have you got w32codecs installed?
[01:57] <softriver> nomin:  I'm at 1024 x 768.  I want to be at 1600x1200, though.
[01:57] <bertu> lol i dont know what they are
[01:58] <nomin> softriver: the driver will probably give you the option for better resolution.
[01:58] <bertu> softriver: what is your graphic card
[01:58] <inc|freaky> Failed to create initrd image. <-- what can i do?
[01:58] <gatekeeper> bertu: have you modified your repositories at all?
[01:58] <bertu> em
[01:58] <inc|freaky> im trying to make my own kernel with mkpkg
[01:58] <softriver> bertu:  AGP nVidia geForce 256 MB
[01:58] <bertu> created a new one i think
[01:59] <nomin> softriver: your system only messed up after you tried to install the nvidia driver, correct?  It was working fine before that?
[01:59] <inc|freaky> how to?
[01:59] <bertu> softriver: model?
[01:59] <inc|freaky> k
[01:59] <inc|freaky> mm
[01:59] <inc|freaky> hm
[01:59] <Leira> howto use debtags in ubuntu? i cannot find any tags in aptitude~  i do have debtags installed.
[01:59] <gatekeeper> bertu: Step 1. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[01:59] <softriver> nomin:  correct.
[02:00] <softriver> bertu:  not exactly sure.
[02:00] <bertu> ok
[02:00] <ompaul> !enter >  inc|freaky
[02:00] <ompaul> inc|freaky, please read the note from ubotu
[02:00] <nomin> softriver: you should be able to fix it without reinstalling
[02:00] <Timor^> narfmaster: thnx again.
[02:01] <narfmaster> Timor^, no problem
[02:01] <nomin> softriver:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Rescue_Mode
[02:01] <bertu> softriver: but do you have any idea?
[02:01] <ompaul> !kernel > inc|freaky
[02:01] <softriver> bertu:  I want to say 2600.  I *think* that's it.
[02:02] <bertu> gatekeeper:i think i added one when i was goung to install my nvidia river
[02:02] <Timor^> i got an error while installing xmail, how can i uninstall and reinstall ?
[02:03] <_nano_> hi, is there a way to install AIGLX without installing compiz?
[02:03] <bertu> softriver: 2600? and a geforce?
[02:03] <bertu> i never heard of it
[02:03] <ompaul> !xgl
[02:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:03] <softriver> bertu:  Yeah.  Asylum distribution (if that matters).
[02:03] <gatekeeper> bertu: follow the procedure I have given you, will enable all the repos you want then try apt-get install w32codecs
[02:03] <_nano_> !aiglx
[02:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about aiglx
[02:03] <_nano_> eh?
[02:03] <_nano_> :O
[02:03] <nomin> softriver: I'm guessing that you need to have xorg.conf configured properly.
[02:03] <_nano_> this bot is so mean!
[02:04] <Knome> Timor^: you can do it in one command with 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall xmail' or 2 commands with 'sudo apt-get --purge remove xmail' and then 'sudo apt-get install xmail'
[02:04] <ompaul> _nano_, head to #ubuntu-xgl with that question
[02:04] <_nano_> ompaul, i'm talkin about aiglx...
[02:04] <nomin> softriver: if your installation partition is the one that's mounted right now, go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:04] <redblades> Is there a way to edit ID3 tags quickly?
[02:04] <bertu> forget it
[02:04] <_nano_> ompaul, won't the roast me alive if i talk about aiglx in an xgl channel? :P
[02:04] <softriver> nomin:  ok.
[02:04] <redblades> like, add an Album to a group of MP3?
[02:04] <_nano_> *they
[02:04] <bertu> i deal with it layer
[02:04] <ompaul> _nano_, well they more than likely won't
[02:04] <bertu> *later
[02:05] <nanomad> redblades, maybe with exfalso...dunno
[02:05] <IRCMonkeyx> anyone experienced  in globespan usb modem adsl???
[02:05] <ompaul> _nano_, but it is not supported so it not proper to here - we support supported software that is why there is #ubuntu+1 for stuff that is in dev
[02:05] <Jowi> redblades: easytag is quite ok
[02:05] <_nano_> ompaul, ok
[02:06] <Jowi> redblades: it can do what you ask, not sure if it is the best application though. but the only one i've tried
[02:06] <pedro-kun> hi
[02:06] <redblades> Okay, I will try it.
[02:06] <redblades> hi pedro-kun
[02:06] <softriver> nomin:  opening xorg.conf now.
[02:06] <pedro-kun> can anybody help with getting aMSN fonts to work right in ubuntu dapper?
[02:06] <nomin> softriver: after I installed the nvidia driver, I chose to have nvidia re-write that file.  Everything was ok for me after that.
[02:06] <giant_> does somebody here has experience with qt in eclipse?
[02:06] <pedro-kun> or is it just something we cannot fix?
[02:06] <pedro-kun> (hi redblades)
[02:07] <giant_> does somebody here has experience with qt in eclipse?
[02:07] <redblades> I don't use aMSN, because it crashed eight times in a row, over different issues!
[02:07] <redblades> Or mabe one huge one?
[02:08] <ragoo> i use aMSN in dapper, and fonts seem to work.. but i installed some plugins.. that might've helped.
[02:08] <pedro-kun> well, amsn never crashed here
[02:08] <nomin> softriver: did you follow the nvidia installation instructions on this page:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:08] <pedro-kun> however, it looks like hell
[02:08] <pedro-kun> ragoo, what plugins did you use?
[02:08] <softriver> nomin:  checking.
[02:08] <softriver> nomin:  That's the one.
[02:09] <ragoo> pedro-kun: this plugin named "Desktop Integration", i think that might be the one that has anything to do with fonts
[02:09] <ragoo> not sure though
[02:09] <bookLook> which is the best ftp server for ubuntu ?
[02:09] <bookLook> or is there any already install in dapper ?
[02:10] <nomin> softriver: and you typed in that command after you installed it?
[02:10] <softriver> nomin:  Strange though.  In my xorg.conf file it lists the device as ATI (?)
[02:10] <softriver> Yes.  That's when things went wrong.
[02:10] <narfmaster> that would explain the crash
[02:10] <nomin> softriver: mine says ATI also, don't know why.
[02:10] <nomin> but mine is ok
[02:10] <pedro-kun> ragoo, thanks :)
[02:11] <IRCMonkeyx> anyone experienced  in globespan usb modem adsl???
[02:11] <nomin> Identifier     "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] "
[02:11] <nomin> ?
[02:11] <nomin> softriver: I just now noticed that
[02:11] <nomin> wtf
[02:11] <softriver> nomin:  Does yours list as -
[02:11] <softriver> BusID		"PCI:0:5:0"
[02:11] <Knome> bookLook: here's a list of ftp servers for ubuntu http://pastebin.ca/82379
[02:12] <bookLook> thanks Knome
[02:12] <softriver> nomin: And will that make a difference since it's an AGP card?
[02:12] <Knome> np
[02:12] <nomin> softriver: like I said before, I had some problems with my display, but since I'm a little experienced with linux I was able to make it work.  It looks like this "ATI" thing might be causing some problems.
[02:13] <pedro-kun> thanks for all the help guys :)
[02:13] <YtseJam> yey, the mounting works.
[02:13] <nomin> softriver: I think this is a problem with dapper.  Maybe it's a bug.
[02:14] <softriver> nomin:  *nod*  Might be, might be.  I'm not experienced enough to know what's important yet, sadly.
[02:14] <webben> good grief ... the path for root is not being set by /etc/environment! why not?
[02:15] <softriver> nomin:  My folder's finished backing up, so I'm going to reinstall.  I'll be back when that's done, though.  Thanks again to *everyone* who helped me out!
[02:15] <nomin> softriver: but right now I have my tv-out and acceleration working fine.  I did notice that at startup the display in bent inwards at the bottom corners, but as soon as the login screen shows up, it's fine.
[02:15] <nomin> softriver: no problem
[02:15] <pinkman> Hello
[02:15] <pinkman> anyone here whom can help me.
[02:15] <pinkman> ?
[02:16] <stefg> !ask
[02:16] <webben> what does set the PATH for root?
[02:16] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:16] <Jowi> softriver: if you want to check if 0:5:0 is correct, just do a "lspci -X"
[02:16] <pinkman> :P
[02:16] <pinkman> Well, I am trying to install rar and unrar extensions but it isnt working
[02:16] <ompaul> does anyone ask complete and informative questions of the channel?
[02:16] <pinkman> I have tried.. "sudo apt-get install rar unrar"
[02:16] <pinkman> did nothing.
[02:17] <DBO> pinkman, have you enabled universe and multiverse repos?
[02:17] <stefg> !easyubuntu > pinkman
[02:17] <pinkman> I have opened repositor and enabled everything, so yes.. I do believe so.
[02:17] <ompaul> pinkman, if you had it would work
[02:17] <ompaul> !multiverse > pinkman
[02:17] <DBO> pinkman, have you run sudo apt-get update since then?
[02:18] <ompaul> DBO, excellent catch
[02:18] <webben> i wish ubuntu devs would choose one way of doing system paths and stick to it :(
[02:18] <pinkman> Yes, I have.
[02:18] <pinkman> But it still isnt working.
[02:19] <Jowi> pinkman: what happen exactly ?
[02:19] <ompaul> webben, apache likes its own config files
[02:19] <pinkman> (also whats the differnece between kubuntu and ubnutu, wich is newer/better)
[02:19] <pinkman> pinkman@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[02:19] <pinkman> Reading package lists... Done
[02:19] <pinkman> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:19] <pinkman> Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:19] <pinkman> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:19] <pinkman> is only available from another source
[02:19] <pinkman> E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[02:19] <DBO> !paste
[02:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:19] <webben> ompaul: for PATH?
[02:20] <DBO> pinkman, what kernel are you running
[02:20] <ompaul> webben, ahh last time I looked you were doing something with apache )
[02:20] <ompaul> :)
[02:20] <bookLook> i installed curl just now
[02:20] <bookLook> as an ftp but i cannot access
[02:20] <webben> ompaul: i think you've confused me with someone else
[02:20] <pinkman> Im not sure, Im new with linux
[02:20] <ompaul> webben, possible
[02:20] <cps> pinkman: try "apt-get install unrar-nonfree"
[02:20] <webben> ompaul: i'm just trying to add a directory to my path for all users including root
[02:21] <narfmaster> does Ubuntu really need a root path?
[02:21] <DBO> pinkman, if cps's suggestion doesnt work, please put your /etc/apt/sources.list into pastebin for us to look at
[02:21] <DBO> !paste > pinkman
[02:21] <webben> narfmaster: yes
[02:21] <Leira> it seems my aptitude's problem, it cannot shows debtags
[02:21] <webben> narfmaster: for one thing, sudo uses it
[02:21] <pinkman> how do I get ther list?
[02:21] <bookLook> i am trying to connect from crimson editor and i cannot access ftp on my ubuntu
[02:21] <narfmaster> i thought sudo used the user path
[02:21] <webben> apparently not
[02:21] <narfmaster> it does if i use sudo in Fedora Core
[02:22] <webben> (at least not on my new dapper installation)
[02:22] <ubuntu-austria> i can find in internet drivers for my orinoco client, but where do i know wich is the right for ubuntu?
[02:22] <ompaul> webben, the only think I can find in etc for that is: bash_completion:        PATH=$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/sbin _command $1 $2 $3
[02:22] <DBO> narfmaster, that kind of behavior can be configured
[02:22] <ompaul> ubuntu-austria, it should work out of the box
[02:22] <pinkman> How do I get /etc/apt/sources.list onto here? x_x' how to open
[02:23] <ompaul> ubuntu-austria, try clicking on System Administration Networking - it might help
[02:23] <ubuntu-austria> ompaul, u mean any orinoco driver can work with ubuntu?
[02:23] <cps> pinkman: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:23] <Jowi> pinkman: use pastebin, do not put it in the channel
[02:23] <ompaul> ubuntu-austria, I have had some in the past - I removed wireless before dapper and rewired the whole place and it used to just work
[02:23] <Jowi> ubotu: tell pinkman about pastebin
[02:24] <ubuntu-austria> well i cant use wired internet, it doesn't deopend on me
[02:25] <pinkman> uh
[02:25] <pinkman> okie
[02:25] <webben> madness .... when i switch to the console -- the text begins off the left hand side of my screen
[02:25] <ompaul> pinkman, and please put all your words on one line in complete sentences - not one word and then enter and the next one - this is IRC not IM :-)
[02:26] <webben> i have to shrink the view on my monitor's OSD to see the prompt properly!
[02:26] <k> hELLO.
[02:26] <k> Hello*
[02:26] <rambo3> ubuntu-austria, you would have to go buy kernel type, drivers mostly depend on that and not distro
[02:26] <pinkman> Sure thing, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17532.
[02:27] <Jowi> webben: you don't have a auto-adjust button on your monitor?
[02:27] <k> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHowCome
[02:27] <k> The page is...............
[02:27] <k> out of date
[02:27] <webben> Jowi: a what?
[02:27] <k> it talks about 5.04, not  6.06
[02:27] <ompaul> !enter
[02:27] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[02:28] <Jowi> webben: auto-adjust button. to adjust the image to center on your screen. a godsent feature.
[02:28] <ubuntu-austria> rambo3, so u say ubuntu cant conect to internet with wireless
[02:28] <ompaul> k it seems to be a history lesson not the way it is today
[02:28] <Jowi> webben: if you have an LCD/TFT that is. CRTs seem to lack it.
[02:29] <webben> Jowi: nah this is an old Dell CRT
[02:29] <ompaul> !wireless > ubuntu-austria
[02:29] <rambo3> ubuntu-austria, yes that exactly what i didn't write. i use wirless
[02:29] <webben> Jowi: but i didn't have this problem with the previous 2 ubuntu releases
[02:29] <ompaul> ubuntu-austria, the bot just sent you some info have a look at it
[02:29] <k> ompaul: what do you mean
[02:29] <webben> i hate upgrading :(
[02:29] <Jowi> webben: ah :-/
[02:30] <rambo3> ubuntu-austria, i hope you are not talking about connecting wireless to internet without router
[02:30] <ubuntu-austria> rambo3, yes, without router
[02:31] <Jowi> pinkman: you have universe enabled but not multiverse (line 19)
[02:31] <ompaul> k I see your reasoning, it appears I should get off the net and rest :-/ first I will throw it to the doc team
[02:31] <IRCMonkeyx> anyone experienced  in globespan usb modem adsl???
[02:32] <YtseJam> !
[02:32] <bookLook> when i connect from my ftpd server to my ubuntu box i cannot see the files in that folder ?
[02:32] <bookLook> what can be the possible reason ?
[02:32] <bookLook> anyone please help ?????????
[02:32] <ryanakca> no... irc exploit
[02:32] <nomin> bookLook: you might need to have the right privledges to see them
[02:33] <bookLook> no better privledges then root ;)
[02:33] <bookLook> nomin no better priveledges then root;)
[02:33] <rambo3> ubuntu-austria, then i dont know , what are you using mobile phone to connect?
[02:34] <webben> the console view size seems to have no relation to the view size in x
[02:34] <pinkman> how to enable multiuniverse?
[02:34] <narfmaster> bookLook, ftp servers usually have their own /home folder
[02:34] <nomin> bookLook: I have never tried access a ftpd server before.  I guess I can't help you out much.
[02:34] <rambo3> !sources
[02:34] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:34] <narfmaster> typically /home/ftp
[02:34] <ryanakca> whats the command to remove something from "env"
[02:35] <DBO> unset
[02:35] <bookLook> nomin which server you use ? i will use that i just need ftp access so i can edit my files easily in windows crimson editor
[02:35] <nomin> bookLook: I'm just a home pc user
[02:36] <ryanakca> DBO: ty
[02:36] <pinkman> How to install multiverse
[02:36] <pinkman> enable*
[02:36] <webben> how do i configure the display of the console? the x display seems perfect for my monitor :( ?
[02:37] <rambo3> !tell pinkman about sources
[02:37] <jrib> pinkman: have you been linked to the wiki?
[02:37] <rambo3> pinkman, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[02:37] <bookLook> nomin thanks no problem
[02:37] <snikker> how can i send a broadcast messages to the others client pc (with windows) on the lan?
[02:37] <pianoboy3333> how do I find out what version of gtk I'm running?
[02:38] <Jowi> webben: it sort of depends. do you know if you use framebuffer? for example, do you see the ubuntu logo when you boot or just text?
[02:38] <nomin> webben: are you talking about using the console under X that you access from the 'applications' menu?
[02:38] <Teejay_wp> hi
[02:38] <webben> nomin: the console you reach by pressing ctrl + alt+  fX
[02:39] <webben> Jowi: i believe i see the Ubuntu logo when i boot
[02:39] <webben> Jowi: that means i do use the framebuffer?
[02:39] <rixxon> can anyone recommend an msn client, gaim is to simplistic
[02:39] <Jowi> webben: yeah. have a look at the bottom of the page: wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[02:39] <cps> rixxon: amsn has more of the features from msn, but it's kinda ugly
[02:40] <Teejay_wp> excuse me, is there an command line in removing a program from ubuntu
[02:41] <dmitri> ccooke: hi, its dmitri from yesterday, with a few more questions
[02:41] <jrib> Teejay_wp: how did you install the program?
[02:41] <Jowi> Teejay_wp: sudo apt-get remove programname
[02:41] <rixxon> Teejay_wp: if it's a package: sudo apt-get remove PACKAGENAME
[02:41] <SonicChao> Teejay_wp: sudo apt-get uninstall <program>
[02:41] <SonicChao> Remove?
[02:41] <webben> Jowi: thanks
[02:41] <SonicChao> I always thought it was uninstall
[02:41] <smithnooob> guys, whats the command to retrive ones internal IP-adress ?
[02:41] <rixxon> it's remove alright
[02:41] <jrib> yep, it's remove
[02:41] <Jowi> webben: thank me if it works :)
[02:42] <rixxon> smithnooob: ifconfig
[02:42] <smithnooob> hmm
[02:42] <SonicChao> jrib: I never had to uninstall a pkg, XD
[02:42] <rixxon> :)
[02:43] <smithnooob> sudo: ipconfig: command not found
[02:43] <pinkman> ill be back later..
[02:43] <rambo3> ifconfig
[02:43] <smithnooob> aah
[02:43] <smithnooob> sorry :>
[02:43] <smithnooob> thank you all ! :D
[02:43] <blackline> I have this other cordless keyboard that first have worked, but now last weeks it just refuses to work properly. Lots of the characters don't work, for example I get digits when I write about half of the letters. What shall I do? I really need this keyboard to work. Just tried it at my neighbours and it works normally there.
[02:44] <ompaul> k I sent you a message, thanks for that comment
[02:44] <frogzoo> blackline: usb or serial?
[02:44] <ryanakca> how do you make a back tick?
[02:44] <blackline> frogzoo Its USB
[02:44] <cps> blackline: battery problem?
[02:45] <blackline> cps - no i changed batteries, and it works terrific at my neighbours, i was able to write from another room
[02:45] <darich> hey all, is anyone else having trouble signing into google talk?
[02:45] <darich> my Gaim 2.0 beta ain't playing ball
[02:46] <rixxon> google talk exists for linux now?
[02:46] <Jowi> blackline: and no interferences between the keyboard and the reciever?
[02:46] <darich> no but you can use GAIM to log into the google talk servers
[02:46] <blackline> Jowi sorry, what does interferences mean?
[02:46] <darich> as it's just jazzed up jabba
[02:46] <cps> darich: it seems to be working for me, where did you get your gaim 2 packages from?
[02:47] <Jowi> blackline: like other wireless devices or stuff laying in the way.
[02:47] <rambo3> blackline, something disturbing connection like wifi device
[02:47] <Jowi> blackline: or a bluetooth phone or a remote or something like that
[02:47] <darich> I installed it via Automatix
[02:47] <blackline> Jowi Yes i have my other wireless conected also, which i always had and that have worked before. But of course i have tried to disconnect this and only ran the usb, without result.
[02:47] <dmitri> Hi, can anyone help with an un-intalling truecrypt please
[02:47] <darich> aol works fine
[02:47] <darich> as does MSN
[02:47] <darich> but googletalk's borked
[02:48] <blackline> The thing is that it acts wierd, since U for example, always become 4, this is constant.
[02:48] <Jowi> blackline: AH! numlock
[02:48] <darich> so it's the beta version
[02:49] <Foobal> dmitri: why you want to install truecrypt? I'm just curious because the dm-crypt works wonderfully and is shipped on your computer already
[02:49] <Jowi> blackline: U=4, I=5, J=1
[02:49] <vijay> hi all, how to install gnome on kubuntu using cd
[02:50] <blackline> Jowi Hahaha, I had this trouble for weeks, and its something as silly as that. Thank you very much
[02:50] <gorski> please, explain me, watching dvds is not legal on ubuntu?
[02:50] <dmitri> Foobal: i converted form windows before u see - and have all my docs in a giant truecrypt file - i had it wokring before, but not since i updated to 2.6.15-25-686
[02:50] <Jowi> blackline: I have a keyboard that does not have a numeric keypad and those keys are mapped to those numbers :)
[02:50] <Foobal> dmitri: oh yeah, I used it on Windows myself too. umm, sounds like if you just will have to recompile your kernel module manually
[02:51] <blackline> Jowi, yes, same here I guess :)
[02:51] <dmitri> foobal: my ubuntu kernel?
[02:51] <cps> darich: I use the gaim 2 packages from this repository: deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/deb ./
[02:51] <Foobal> dmitri: no, just install the headers for your kernel and recompile truecrypt's module manually
[02:51] <cps> I don't know where automatix gets its from
[02:52] <dmitri> Foobal: sorry mate - i'm a bit new at this..install the headers in the build.sh file? or where?
[02:52] <gorski> please, explain me, why is watching dvds not legal on ubuntu?
[02:53] <cps> gorski: because the only way to view them is to crack the encryption on them which has been made illegal in many places around the world
[02:53] <hawkaloogie> gorski, distributing the software that decrypts DVDs is not legal
[02:53] <Jowi> gorski: it is. but commercial dvds are encrypted, and to decrypt is illegal in some countries.
[02:54] <gorski> decrypt?
[02:54] <gorski> i just want to watch it.
[02:54] <edan> hi all
[02:54] <Foobal> you can't watch it without decrypting, silly
[02:55] <edan> what's mplayer's classname?
[02:55] <gorski> i don't want to crack it or copy it.
[02:55] <cps> gorski: you can get more info from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-38508785e53c611dde1859232189b2e823135eb9
[02:55] <edan> I want to send from xvkbd to mplayer and need the classname
[02:55] <Jowi> gorski: the movie industry seem to think that it is the same thing
[02:55] <Foobal> gorski: there is _no_ video without decrypting the data. period.
[02:55] <Jowi> !dvd
[02:55] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:56] <riddlebox> I am trying to set dapper to not blank my screen or do anything after a period of time, I have set the power settings to no do it and I have disabled the screensaver, is there anything else I can do to stop this?
[02:56] <dmitri> Foobal: could you explain how i would do that (install the headers)
[02:56] <latroman> hi: is there any Ati Radeon 9600Xt driver for DapperDrake ?
[02:56] <IRCMonkeyx> anyone experienced  in globespan usb modem adsl???
[02:56] <IRCMonkeyx> anyone experienced  in globespan usb modem adsl???
[02:57] <Jowi> IRCMonkeyx: no, but is the lights on on the modem? and did you run "pppoeconf"?
[02:57] <Raito> How do you add keyboard shortcuts in gnome? there is a keyboard shortcut option in the system menu but I can only seem to edit existing shortcuts, how would I add more? Like for an application?
[02:57] <edan> I just use xbindkeys
[02:57] <sztanpet> i want to install cedega but it has an xlibs dependency and the installer says its not satisfiable, where can i install that package?
[02:57] <IRCMonkeyx> jowi: i run pppoeconf,it says not detected, and only red light not green
[02:58] <Jowi> IRCMonkeyx: which light is red? link or pc connection?
[02:58] <Raito> edan: ok so I can use xbindkeys to make certain keys do something? ok I'll check it out, thanks
[02:58] <edan> yeah
[02:59] <IRCMonkeyx> jovi: power is red, data link is green
[02:59] <edan> I'm using it to map buttons from my MX100 as well as mapping the multimedia keys on my DiNovo
[02:59] <IRCMonkeyx> jowi: power is red, data link is green
[03:00] <Raito> edan: it says something in home isn't found when I run it from a teminal, how would I set up the configuration?
[03:00] <IRCMonkeyx> jowi: in fact i found solution, i must re-compile and patch kernel, i did those as root , and i still cant get it
[03:00] <Jowi> IRCMonkeyx: look what I found: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/EciAdsl
[03:00] <edan> you need to create ~/.xbindkeysrc
[03:01] <Raito> edan: just a folder? do I have to put anything in it?
[03:01] <IRCMonkeyx> jowi: i did all of them, if i did correct, it is not easy to do those for a new linux user
[03:01] <edan> xbindkeys will create a default file for you if you run "xbindkeys -d"
[03:01] <edan> open a terminal and type "xbindkeys -d"
[03:01] <Raito> thanks, that was what I was looking for
[03:01] <edan> then "sudo gedit ~/.xbindkeysrc"
[03:01] <edan> or nano or whatever
[03:02] <latroman> hi: is there any Ati Radeon 9600Xt driver for DapperDrake ?
[03:02] <Raito> edan: I see so you have to edit it by hand, also I still get the same error when I run xbindkeys from the terminal after making it, is this supposed to be normal?
[03:02] <edan> Raito: to get the keycodes you need, run xev from a terminal and it'll spit data out as you hit keys or mouse buttons
[03:02] <Jowi> IRCMonkeyx: ah. did you do "sudo apt-get install eciadsl"?
[03:02] <Jowi> !info eciadsl
[03:02] <ubotu> eciadsl: userspace driver for the Globespan-based USB ADSL modems. In repository universe, is extra. Version 0.11-3 (dapper), package size 148 kB, installed size 352 kB
[03:03] <edan> what's the error?
[03:03] <Raito> edan: same one, saying something in home isn't found
[03:03] <IRCMonkeyx> jowi: yes i did, as root
[03:03] <zambba> I want to share ~/Pictures with apache to my network. I type "DocumentRoot /home/sami/Pictures" to apache.conf, but apache keeps on serving /var/www instead. Where is the problem?
[03:03] <edan> the only thing it looks for in home I think is .xbindkeysrc
[03:03] <Raito> edan: it can't find that
[03:03] <Knome> zambba: #apache
[03:04] <Jowi> IRCMonkeyx: than I wouldn't know. :-/
[03:04] <edan> if it's not there, "sudo nano ~/.xbindkeysrc" and just save it
[03:04] <Jowi> s/than/then
[03:04] <IRCMonkeyx> jowi: :) me too, i am gonna hate linux, i should buy a new modem
[03:04] <edan> you can force it to load a file tho using "xbindkeys -f <insert filename here>"
[03:05] <zambba> Knome: are you sure this is no ubuntu/debian specific problem
[03:05] <edan> so if you wanted xbindkeys somewhere other than ~ you can point xbindkeys to it
[03:05] <Raito> edan: now when I run xbindkeys is nothing supposed to happen?
[03:05] <edan> correct
[03:05] <Knome> zambba: I don't see how it would be
[03:05] <Raito> ok
[03:06] <edan> onc eyou define stuff tho, it'll still look like nothing's happening when you run it but your new shortcuts will work
[03:06] <Raito> ok
[03:06] <edan> best thing to do is "man xbindkeys"
[03:06] <Raito> ok
[03:06] <edan> should get you going
[03:06] <jago25_98> Having trouble with cloop. Any way to remaster in Windows instead?
[03:08] <Kalm_> Can anyone point me to a web site that could possibly help me to tweak my ubuntu system as its running pretty slow...
[03:08] <frogzoo> blackline: Kalm_ what's top say? what's the cpu % ?
[03:08] <Knome> zambba: but have you tried restarting your web server after making those changes?
[03:09] <zambba> yes
[03:09] <frogzoo> Kalm_ what's top say? what's the cpu % ?
[03:09] <Kalm_> ive got an iMac G3 233mhz 64mb RAM
[03:09] <Knome> zambba: what apache version do you use?
[03:09] <frogzoo> Kalm_: that's not what I asked
[03:09] <edan> Knome: set ubuntu to boot init 1? heh
[03:10] <frogzoo> Kalm_: that's a pretty low spec - did ubuntu ever run quicker?
[03:10] <edan> err...  Kalm I mean
[03:10] <Kalm_> my CPU is working abouts 20%
[03:11] <frogzoo> gtg
[03:11] <Kalm_> its still really slow and its hard to find any RAM compatible with this machine
[03:11] <edan> try a different window manager
[03:11] <edan> I'd imagine KDE and GNOME aren't ever goign to run well on that sys
[03:12] <Knome> Kalm_: that's pretty much a hardware issue
[03:12] <Kalm_> xfce doesnt give me what i want sure ive tried KDE GNOME and XFCE... i hear IceWM might be even better for low spec pcs..
[03:12] <top222> An idea... what if we had an Ubuntu distribution (Lubuntu for Low power Ubuntu) that would be the best it can be in a 64MB sub-300MHz machine?
[03:12] <fateminasab> How can i run a specific command every time i boot in ubuntu?
[03:12] <DBO> Kalm_, fluxbox might be a good idea to check out too
[03:13] <cps> Kalm_: maybe you would be better off with something like damn small linux
[03:13] <jago25_98> I can remaster in Windows :))
[03:13] <Almighty> Sup? 8)
[03:13] <top222> Kalm_: Rox desktop and Rox filer will allow one to have icons on desktop
[03:13] <edan> add it to System>Preferences>Sessions>Startup Programs in GNOME
[03:13] <fateminasab> thanks
[03:14] <webben> Jowi: that framebuffer page helped, thanks again :)
[03:14] <Kalm_> what im asking is is there a way to "simplify" Gnome... cut unneeded processes etc
[03:14] <cps> Kalm_: not and still call it GNOME really
[03:15] <top222> Kalm_: Removing the desktop background is maybe one thing you could do
[03:15] <Kalm_> hm... ok well thank you all im off to fix this...
[03:15] <top222> Kalm_: That way you will save memory
[03:15] <Kalm_> got wat i wanted
[03:17] <top222> Maybe we convinced him that linux is way too heavy, and he should install the original Apple system that came with the machine, and that was the thing he was looking for
[03:17] <top222> Does NetworkManager support static IP for my WLAN connection, btw?
[03:18] <top222> And is it possible to have a LAN with static IP addresses, and use WLAN only when the card is inserted?
[03:19] <delta____> Hey there! Just stopping by to tell everyone that Ubuntu totally blew me away (yeah, as if you guys didn't already know). I was just so surprised it got *everything* right on my Inspiron 8600 notebook.
[03:19] <top222> That also means going back to the LAN with static addresses after the PCMCIA card is removed
[03:19] <top222> delta____: Power saving too?
[03:19] <Cybodog> how does ubuntu inact the cpu freq stepping?
[03:19] <delta____> top222: The usual hitches with Wifi, but other than that: Yes!
[03:19] <jbwiv> guys, I had a software raid parition I deleted, changed the part type to LVM with fdisk, and would now like to add an LVM VG and LVs to it. Is there a way to run Ubuntu's console disk tool *after* you've successfully installed?
[03:20] <cps> top222: there is something on live.gnome.org about static IPs : http://live.gnome.org/DarrenAlbers/NetworkManagerFAQ#head-c8b3f6905f51eed368b9c21893edabcc82531bbc
[03:20] <top222> delta____: Ok.  I was not that happy with my Thinkpad T22
[03:21] <delta____> top222: Guess it depends on what you expect. I expected having to set up everything and anything like I used to do some years ago
[03:21] <jbwiv> anyone know what the console based disk parition tool Ubuntu uses on install is actually called?
[03:21] <top222> delta____: I still can't combine LAN and WLAN.  One always breaks the other somehow.
[03:21] <delta____> jbwiv: If it's not fdisk or parted, I don't know
[03:22] <top222> delta____: Port replicator's mouse port does not work.  Kernel update fixed the CPU throttling, but initially that too was broken.
[03:22] <Knome> jbwiv: not sure but I'm partial to cfdisk
[03:23] <jbwiv> Knome: can cfdisk create LVM partitions with mount points?
[03:23] <delta____> top222: Heh. I see we had different expectations
[03:23] <top222> delta____: Also, because I was updating from 5.10, I did not run into problems with X and DRI, but on default it is enabled with Savage chips, and causes T2x Thinkpads to lock up hard.
[03:24] <delta____> top222: Ouch. My Mobility Radeon 9600 got detected and installed fine. I even got HW-accelerated OpenGL for free.
[03:24] <Knome> jbwiv: Linux LVM
[03:25] <top222> delta____: I get acceleration once I use 16bpp (not enough on-chip memory in the Savage) and put some magic lines into the "Device" section in xorg.conf
[03:25] <jbwiv> Knome: yeah, but I don't think it goes are far as Ubuntu's utility. In that you can't actually configure LVM from within the tool. I'm trying to find that tool
[03:27] <Knome> jbwiv: lvm2 - The Linux Logical Volume Manager ?
[03:27] <jbwiv> Knome: yes.
[03:27] <jbwiv> you can configure LVM2 from install with Ubuntu
[03:28] <jbwiv> alas...I'm going to reinstall...
[03:28] <jbwiv> or throw this g*(*D*(*(*( machine through the window ;-)
[03:30] <bina> is it safe for me to burn the ubuntu 6.06 dvd iso to a dvd-rw or is it best to use some other medium?
[03:30] <kenas> Hi
[03:30] <cps> bina: what do you mean by safe?
[03:30] <kenas> i am trying to install dapper 6.06
[03:30] <kenas> in a pc
[03:31] <kenas> and the desktop doesnt work
[03:31] <dr_willis> :) sortof hard to install it on a toaster. :)
[03:31] <kenas> i guess its because of Nvidia drivers
[03:31] <Marktzar> checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
[03:31] <Marktzar> checking for X... no
[03:31] <Marktzar> Sorry, X is very much needed
[03:31] <Marktzar> mark@mindtzar:~/torsmo-0.18$
[03:31] <Marktzar> could someone tell me why it can't find x
[03:31] <bina> cps: I dont know entirely :)  Just so long as it'll boot.  I'm not sure it will make to big a difference, but i thought id ask to be 'safe' :-)
[03:31] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[03:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:31] <kenas> !nvidia
[03:31] <Marktzar> !torsmo
[03:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about torsmo
[03:31] <dr_willis> kenas,  what video card ya got exactly?
[03:31] <coolbe> #ubuntu-cn
[03:32] <kenas> Geforce 6600 GT
[03:32] <hawkaloogie> Marktzar, are you trying to compile something? do you have the build-essential package?
[03:32] <kenas> but i cant get into the graphical mode either
[03:32] <Marktzar> yes hawkaloogie
[03:32] <kenas> i only see terminal
[03:32] <cps> bina: should be fine I imagine
[03:32] <Marktzar> It's the systems stats thing
[03:32] <dr_willis> odd - that thing should work good.. but you can install the official nvidia drivers without being in X.
[03:32] <Marktzar> but it can't detect x
[03:32] <kenas> i cant see the desktop
[03:33] <Marktzar> I'm running fluxbox though
[03:33] <Marktzar> if that's any help
[03:33] <bina> cps: hopefully.  Got another 8 hours until I have to worry about it anyway, may just get the CD iso
[03:33] <cps> bina: if it's a rewritable and it doesn't work you can always blank the disc ;)
[03:33] <coolbe> how can i get  in the channel ubuntu-cn
[03:33] <bina> cps: hehe yeah :)
[03:34] <LuckyX> help me pls
[03:34] <cps> bina: that might be a better idea, and then just install any extra programs over the net
[03:34] <dr_willis> kenas,  check out that URL we just gave ya (the !nvidia bot url) its about 3 commands to type in the shell that whould install the official nvidia drivers and get ya going.
[03:34] <Marktzar> so, anyone got any idea why tormso can't find X
[03:34] <Marktzar> !tormso
[03:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about tormso
[03:34] <Marktzar> !torsmo
[03:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about torsmo
[03:34] <cps> bina: unless of course you don't have a fast connection on the computer you are installing it on
[03:34] <LuckyX> i have potrable hdd connected to usb port (ntfs)
[03:34] <hawkaloogie> Marktzar, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23570
[03:35] <hawkaloogie> that may help
[03:35] <bina> cps: yeah, we have 1Mb connection here, so fast enough.  I also just bought a DVD writer so i wanted to play with it :)
[03:35] <LuckyX> ubuntu detects it but error: Unable to mount the selected volume. mount: only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1
[03:35] <LuckyX> what to do?
[03:35] <LuckyX> how to mount it?
[03:35] <cps> bina: sounds cool, two birds with one stone :-)
[03:35] <Knome> jbwiv: maybe sudo apt-get install --reinstall lvm2 or maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure lvm2 ?
[03:35] <TBUHP666> Hey i am in the login window but i need to switch to the black consol how do i do that?
[03:35] <hawkaloogie> LuckyX, maybe: sudo mount /dev/sda1
[03:35] <bina> cps: hehe :)
[03:35] <gholen> Hello! How do I solve the problem with irssi, and that I can't switch between cannels in exterm
[03:35] <ray79ct> hi to all
[03:36] <gholen> *xterm
[03:36] <ray79ct> i've a problem
[03:36] <hawkaloogie> TBUHP666, Ctrl+Alt+F1-6
[03:36] <Br|ce> hi
[03:36] <LuckyX> you are a king! :D
[03:36] <ray79ct> i can't see old ntfs hdd where i've all file
[03:36] <TBUHP666> kk
[03:36] <hawkaloogie> TBUHP666, to get back to gdm, Ctrl+Alt+F7 or F8 i don't remember which
[03:37] <stefg> !mount
[03:37] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[03:37] <ray79ct> can hlp me pls
[03:37] <LuckyX> tnx folks ;)
[03:37] <hawkaloogie> LuckyX, when something says "only root can do this", use sudo
[03:37] <ray79ct> help me
[03:37] <ray79ct> how i can obtain permission to read ntfs partition
[03:38] <LuckyX> one more thing :)
[03:38] <stefg> ray79ct: be patient and pay attention... have you mounted it?
[03:38] <ray79ct> no
[03:38] <LuckyX> how to put shortcut of ubuntu live support on desktop or any other app?
[03:38] <pianoboy3333> How can I set my guest account's password to nothing, so they can just press enter when they login?
[03:38] <LuckyX> whats the command?
[03:38] <ray79ct> sorry but it's the first that use linux
[03:38] <Br|ce> would someone know what could make my xorg freeze ? video card : radeon 9200 pro with radeon drivers, monitor : benq 20" wide (1680x1050)
[03:38] <Samuli^> Could someone paste me what reads in their menu.lst for dapper?
[03:38] <ray79ct> stef
[03:39] <n9urk> I jut set up php5-cli on Ubuntu 6.6 and I am gettign the error "Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/exp/dbconnect.inc on line 8"  Do I have to do something differently in the cli version to get the mysql functions to work?  They work just find in the php5_mod for apache2.
[03:39] <stefg> ray79ct: do you know which partiton it is in linuxspeak (/dev/hda1 might be an example)
[03:39] <Br|ce> xorg freezes when the gnome desktop launches (ie just after the splashscreen)
[03:39] <IdleOne> pianoboy3333, I believe the guest account defaults to a blank pasword
[03:40] <pianoboy3333> IdleOne: wait... how do you make a guest account that defs. to a blank password? I went System->admin.->users and groups in gnome, and did one manually!
[03:40] <ray79ct> in computer i see the hdd but when click he say that i don't have permission
[03:40] <webben> i can't believe that the path (seems) even more broken than on the last release :(
[03:40] <stefg> !ntfs > ray79ct
[03:40] <IdleOne> pianoboy3333, try login in to the guest account..if it didnt ask you to set a pass then it should be blank
[03:40] <n9urk> anybody using php5-cli?
[03:41] <pianoboy3333> IdleOne: it did ask me to set a pass...
[03:41] <pianoboy3333> IdleOne: how do you set up one w/o one?
[03:41] <sztanpet> with what can i mount my image files, like daemon tools in windows?
[03:42] <IdleOne> pianoboy3333, you can try leaving it blank when setting up the user account . not sure if that works though
[03:42] <pianoboy3333> IdleOne: no, that doesn't
[03:42] <darich> google talk on Gaim is now working
[03:42] <darich> strange
[03:42] <IdleOne> pianoboy3333, then set a pass make it something easy like " guest " or " hello " ....
[03:43] <bob_> can anyone help get my tablet working?  I've edited my xorg.conf, as many things I've read online said to, but my stylus still doesn't seem to work.  I am using an Gateway M275, wacdump -f c100 -c serial /dev/ttyS0 works, but it just counts up from zero, and wacdump -f c100 -c serial /dev/ttyS1 doesn't even load the program.
[03:43] <pianoboy3333> IdleOne: yea... I was just wondering how the live cd works...
[03:43] <stefg> sztanpet: ISOs are mounted using 'mount -o loop ...' all other files from win ripping progs won't work ... there's a project called CDemu on sourceforge which might be worth a look
[03:43] <sztanpet> ty
[03:44] <gholen> I just find some interesting stuff on ubuntuforums, but ano last question, when i do a script, I have to make it as a file, then use chmod to make it execuebale?
[03:44] <void^> there are tools to convert pretty much anything to iso if required
[03:44] <IdleOne> pianoboy3333, the live cd is hard coded with the default pass. you have the source :) hack it
[03:44] <pianoboy3333> great....
[03:44] <giant_> i've installed 3dChess, but it isn't shown in game menu, how come??
[03:45] <giant_> i've installed 3dChess, but it isn't shown in game menu, how come??
[03:45] <webben> Hmm.... could there be a difference in loading etc/environment's path between a genuine root account and Ubuntu's fake root account?
[03:45] <giant_> webben: are you talking to me?
[03:45] <cps> giant_: because the package doesn't include a shortcut, you might be able to find it under /usr/games
[03:45] <giant_> ok, thx
[03:46] <webben> giant_: no, not specifically
[03:46] <shocktrooper1> 'sudo startx' gives me "xauth:  creating new authority file..."  and "X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of 0'
[03:46] <shocktrooper1> and glx doesn't work.
[03:47] <shocktrooper1> what is wrong?
[03:47] <shocktrooper1> I dpkg-reconfigured my xserver-xorg.
[03:47] <ray79ct> thks
[03:47] <ray79ct> i can
[03:47] <shocktrooper1> but no blender. :(
[03:47] <ray79ct> ehehheeh
[03:47] <cps> giant_: you can then add your own shortcut to the menu using Applications > Accessories > Alacarte Menu Editor
[03:48] <giant_> cps: thx
[03:48] <shocktrooper1> I see my nvidia splash screen on boot
[03:48] <bob_> can someone help me with my tablet?
[03:49] <redblades> bob_, just take it with water, and consult doctor if you are still having symtoms
[03:49] <shocktrooper1> also $blender -w gives me "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display'
[03:49] <bob_> yeah, ok, can anyone help me to get my tablet PC's stylus working?
[03:50] <LuckyX> how to create stupid shortcut to any program on destop ?
[03:50] <kthread> hi hi hi hola a todos
[03:50] <picket> !es
[03:50] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:50] <LuckyX> !sr
[03:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about sr
[03:50] <LuckyX> !ser
[03:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about ser
[03:51] <cps> LuckyX: why do you want to create a stupid shortcut?
[03:51] <LuckyX> i hate terminal
[03:51] <LuckyX> i dont want to start ubuntu live support from terminal
[03:51] <LuckyX> or any program
[03:51] <LuckyX> i want shtortcut on desktop
[03:51] <stefg> !enter
[03:51] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[03:51] <IdleOne> LuckyX, right click on the desktop and create a shortcut
[03:51] <LuckyX> sorry
[03:51] <cps> LuckyX: Right click on the desktop and select "Create Launcher"
[03:51] <gnomefreak> LuckyX: right click create launcher and under command use the command that you would start it in terminalk with
[03:51] <Kibou> ..
[03:52] <pianoboy3333> What is the name of the application that allows you to control what apps other acconts can use?
[03:52] <LuckyX> ahahah stupid... tnx again :)
[03:53] <ardchoille> pianoboy3333: chown+chmod?
[03:54] <pianoboy3333> ardchoille: there's a gnome app I believe...
[03:54] <cps> pianoboy3333: there is pessulus which lets you lock down certain things in applications, and then there is sabayon with which you can customise user profiles (removing things from the desktop etc)
[03:54] <ardchoille> pianoboy3333: oh. didn't know that
[03:54] <pianoboy3333> cps: which is being shown at the top of here: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.14/notes/en/rnadmins.html
[03:54] <pianoboy3333> oh, it says, that's pessulus
[03:55] <cps> pianoboy3333: it shows up as "Lockdown Editor" in the Admin menu
[03:55] <webben> this is crazy... what happens when other people add a directory to PATH= in /etc/environment then do sudo -s -H then echo $PATH ... what path do they get?
[03:55] <Marktzar> how can I run a program from shell, but not make it output or use the shells process
[03:55] <andriijas> whats ubuntu alternate iso?
[03:56] <Marktzar> I tried to use /dev/null but that just supresses STDIN
[03:56] <Marktzar> I want to run torsmo without having to have a shell window open
[03:56] <andriijas> Marktzar: ./mybin &
[03:56] <andriijas> add & after to deamonize
[03:56] <Marktzar> thanks!
[03:56] <pianoboy3333> cps: one more thing, how do you run xnest?
[03:57] <cps> pianoboy3333: the easiest way is with gdmXnest
[03:58] <pianoboy3333> cps: does it work in compiz?
[03:58] <webben> seriously does sudo -s -H work with your path settings?
[03:58] <webben> is it just me somehow?
[03:58] <cps> pianoboy3333: I don't know, I haven't had luck getting all that eye candy working
[03:58] <pianoboy3333> cps: one more thing, with the lockdown editor, how do I choose what account I'm setting stuff for?
[03:59] <Marktzar> hmm, andriijas. it crashes when I deamonize it
[03:59] <Marktzar> or freezes rather
[03:59] <webben> i seem to be experiencing this problem with sudo -- except rebooting isn't fixing it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204014&highlight=sudo+path
[03:59] <andriijas> Marktzar: ok
[04:00] <kevinz> hello. i receive some "unauthenticated" updates in dapper. Does it matter?
[04:00] <matteo_> hi all
[04:00] <matteo_> is it possible to install xubuntu over debian minimal cd? or install xubunutu with a minimal floppy through internet ?
[04:00] <cps> pianoboy3333: it's just for the account you are logged in as
[04:00] <cps> pianoboy3333: you can also set gdm up to do automatic or timed logins which might cover what you were asking before about accounts with no passwords
[04:01] <pianoboy3333> cps: so... how I have to use gdmXnest to log in as another user no?
[04:01] <pianoboy3333> if I still want to be logged in
[04:01] <webben> hmm i wonder if it's actually a bug: someone was experiencing problems with sudo java: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203414&page=2
[04:01] <Sacro> can anyone help me with ndiswrapper, ive installed the latest stable, and im using the same drivers i used for Arch Linux, but i cant get wlan0 to appear
[04:01] <kenas> how can i run shell before running the desktop ??
[04:01] <cps> pianoboy3333: if you run gdmXnest it should come up with a nested window with the gdm login promt
[04:01] <godfather> is it possible listening radio (live) with ubuntu
[04:02] <godfather> ?
[04:02] <rambo3> yes
[04:02] <Scarecrow> Question : is there an utility for Dapper that can test your harddrive..  or do I have to use the vendor's test program (DOS) ?
[04:02] <stefg> !info testdisk
[04:02] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In repository universe, is optional. Version 6.1-1 (dapper), package size 386 kB, installed size 1124 kB
[04:02] <rambo3> godfather, what type of streaming mms shoutcast
[04:02] <Scarecrow> ubotu, tnx I'll try
[04:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about tnx I'll try
[04:03] <kenas> how can i boot in shell from the beginning ?
[04:03] <mumbles> !info reconfigerating X
[04:03] <ubotu> Package reconfigerating does not exist in dapper
[04:03] <stefg> Scarecrow: or use badblocks
[04:03] <mumbles> !info X
[04:03] <ubotu> Package X does not exist in dapper
[04:03] <mumbles> ?
[04:03] <mumbles> !info X windows
[04:03] <ubotu> Package X does not exist in dapper
[04:03] <kenas> !info X
[04:03] <kenas> !info X windows
[04:03] <kenas> !info X windows
[04:03] <ubotu> Package X does not exist in dapper
[04:03] <mumbles> trying to reconfiguer X as i have moved the ubuntu box across to a differnt machene
[04:03] <imbrandon> !info xserver-xorg
[04:03] <dr_willis> its like 'xfree86-org'
[04:03] <Sacro> !info Xorg
[04:03] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In repository main, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 98 kB, installed size 344 kB
[04:03] <ubotu> Package Xorg does not exist in dapper
[04:04] <Sacro> !info ndiswrapper
[04:04] <kenas> !info xserver-xorg
[04:04] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in dapper
[04:04] <pianoboy3333> cps: how long should gdmXnest take?
[04:04] <imbrandon> Sacro, ndiswrapper-utils , try packages.ubuntu.com
[04:04] <danfg> i'm experiencing sound delay playing videos from the web, even flash animations sometimes. any clue what might be wrong?
[04:05] <stefg> esd
[04:05] <kenas> ok i am trying to get into terminal but its not possible
[04:05] <cps> pianoboy3333: do you get a window to show up?
[04:05] <stefg> !sound > danfg
[04:05] <pianoboy3333> cps: yes, a black window
[04:06] <pianoboy3333> cps: I'm even in a regular gnome session, not xgl
[04:06] <Sacro> hmmm, whats 6.06 called?
[04:06] <webben> dapper
[04:06] <cps> pianoboy3333: hmm now that I try it myself I only get an empty window too
[04:06] <pianoboy3333> !6.06
[04:06] <webben> Sacro: Dapper Drake
[04:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about 6.06
[04:06] <pianoboy3333> cps: SCREWY!!!
[04:06] <IdleOne> !dapper
[04:06] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[04:07] <cps> pianoboy3333: I'm sure that's how it was supposed to work
[04:07] <kenas> i am still trying to install drivers of nvidia
[04:07] <cps> pianoboy3333: what are you trying to do with the nested session?
[04:07] <kenas> i have got into root
[04:07] <kenas> and i am in the shell
[04:07] <pianoboy3333> cps: use pessulus to configure the guest account
[04:07] <godfather> i'm a newbie and i wish i know how listen radio (live) with ubuntu
[04:08] <pianoboy3333> cps: I could just login to the guest account, no?
[04:08] <kenas> but the command sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:08] <kenas> doesnt go on..
[04:08] <Scarecrow> stefg, I'll look into it .. tnx
[04:08] <kenas> it says command not found
[04:08] <jwolff> hey
[04:08] <cps> pianoboy3333: yeah, you can just switch user without logging out
[04:08] <pianoboy3333> true...
[04:09] <Sacro> right, how do i install ndiswrapper-utils without the cd?
[04:09] <cps> pianoboy3333: then you can switch back and forth between the two logins with <CTL><ALT>F(Some number usually 7 and up)
[04:09] <jwolff> I'm having a little bit of trouble upgrading to dapper, can anyone help me here?
[04:09] <Sacro> or...i could just make sure it was in right
[04:09] <godfather> is there anyone can help me
[04:09] <godfather> ?
[04:09] <Knome> !upgrade > jwolff
[04:09] <jwolff> !upgrade
[04:09] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[04:09] <whyami> godfather: are you trying to listen to Internet radio?
[04:09] <jwolff> I've read it
[04:09] <cps> pianoboy3333: or install the fast user switch applet which gives you a menu on your panel you can use
[04:10] <godfather> yes
[04:10] <mumbles> any ideas on how to reconfiguer x ?
[04:10] <whyami> godfather: do you have the URL of the radio station stream?
[04:10] <godfather> with amarok
[04:10] <jwolff> well, technically, from warty to breezy to dapper
[04:10] <mumbles> i cant find it
[04:10] <whyami> godfather: sorry. can't help you. I don't know amarok. I use XMMS.
[04:10] <godfather> noproblrm
[04:10] <godfather> i have xmms too
[04:10] <jwolff> when I upgraded all of my warty packages, I restarted my comp and x won't start
[04:11] <whyami> godfather: can you get it to play in xmms?
[04:11] <godfather> no
[04:11] <godfather> wait
[04:11] <godfather> can you explain something about it?
[04:11] <whyami> godfather: do you have the URL of the stream? If so, send and I will check to see if it is up.
[04:11] <jwolff> so either I need help fixing x or burning my dapper iso in the command line
[04:11] <godfather> isnt it a live trasmission
[04:11] <godfather> but a recorded file
[04:11] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:11] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: well, technically, I think you have to add the Dapper repo's before you can do that
[04:11] <whyami> godfather: it isn't necessarily a recorded file.
[04:12] <godfather> ok
[04:12] <godfather> i try
[04:12] <whyami> godfather: what station are you trying to listen to? Do they have a website?
[04:12] <dr4g> Hey everyone - i';m having some serious + annoying problems with my ubuntu installation
[04:12] <dr4g> =I'm using the live CD right now..
[04:12] <godfather> www.bbc.co.uk
[04:12] <jwolff> I added the breezy repos and tried to dist-upgrade to breezy from warty last night, that's why I'm here
[04:14] <webben> godfather: i think you want to install realplayer for the BBC
[04:14] <jwolff> can I just get help burning the dapper iso in the command line?  I have no idea how to use cdrecord
[04:14] <Knome> mumbles: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:14] <jwolff> tried that
[04:14] <webben> godfather: (unless it's a podcast)
[04:14] <pianoboy3333> cps: sabyon or w/e uses xnest, so it's ok now
[04:14] <jwolff> oh, nm
[04:14] <godfather> podcast= recordedfile?
[04:14] <webben> godfather: i've used RealPlayer to listen to BBC radio on previous ubuntu's so it ought to work
[04:14] <webben> godfather: not necessarily
[04:14] <godfather> ok
[04:15] <kenas> i have installed nvidia graphics
[04:15] <webben> godfather: what program are you trying to listen to?
[04:15] <kenas> sorry drivers
[04:15] <kenas> but no success
[04:15] <kenas> anyways
[04:15] <kenas> i cant see the screen
[04:15] <godfather> i have  many programs
[04:16] <godfather> xmms
[04:16] <kenas> desktop doesnt work
[04:16] <Toge> hello
[04:16] <godfather> amarok(for kde), mplayer,vlc
[04:16] <pianoboy3333> cps: so, then can't the guest account just use the lockdown editor to change the settings?
[04:16] <webben> godfather: no man, what BBC radio program
[04:16] <godfather> ah sorry
[04:16] <godfather> bbc news
[04:17] <godfather> the same that is present on satellite chanel
[04:17] <Toge> im searching a program for music (i tested vlc, totem, banshee, amarok, xmms, bmpx, rhymthbox), another one?
[04:17] <jwolff> can anyone help me?
[04:17] <webben> godfather: what's the URL for that?
[04:18] <dr4g> I've installed ubuntu (i'm running the live CD now but i can mount the partition to edit files)... Now, when i boot up.. Grub error 18 initiated.. and nothing boots... I've googled previously ofcourse, and they say i need a small partition at the start of my HDD at location "/boot"
[04:18] <godfather> i don't know
[04:18] <dr4g> I have some questions on setting this up... can anyony offer to help ?
[04:18] <dr4g> I've been at this for 9 hours now..
[04:18] <cps> pianoboy: I guess yes, but you can remove it from the menus and I think if you get really excited you can do things like make those settings mandatory
[04:18] <webben> godfather: look, if you can't work out where the radio programme you want to listen to is on the web, you won't be able to listen to it on any program on any platform
[04:18] <dr4g> cps, jwolff, cparker?
[04:19] <webben> godfather: i suggest you go here and pick one: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/
[04:19] <godfather> ok i try
[04:19] <jwolff> dr4g: sorry, don't know :(
[04:19] <jwolff> I'm in here for support myself
[04:19] <dr4g> Someone here must know.. i assume its a common problem when i was on my google escapade
[04:19] <webben> godfather: and the software you want is RealPlayer + (probably) the Firefox plugin
[04:19] <gnomefreak> jwolff: what is it you need? i missed it if you sent it before
[04:20] <godfather> it needs realpalyer
[04:20] <pianoboy3333> cps: ah, ok
[04:20] <webben> godfather: that's right
[04:20] <meez> hey, im having a real problem... atm im in irssi on recovery mode... when I run ubuntu normally I get put in 720x400 with a blank screen... i can upload my xorg.conf if needed, but first, anyone got any ideas?
[04:20] <jwolff> gnome: I just need help burning the dapper iso in cdrecord
[04:20] <dr4g> I think i've wiped ALL my windows files too by accident (TIP: back b4 u install nix + never do it really drunk) like i did
[04:20] <dr4g> I think i've lost all my fucking data
[04:20] <pianoboy3333> cps: but is there a way to limit what programs they can use, like block them from using openoffice (just an example)?
[04:20] <jwolff> gnome: that, or getting x to start working after my warty-to-breezy upgrade
[04:20] <fire> Help.. I am having a apic problem.. that I can not seem to fix!!!
[04:20] <gnomefreak> jwolff: sorry thats 1 or 3 things i use gui for
[04:21] <webben> godfather: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods is the page for you
[04:21] <gnomefreak> jwolff: you shouldnt skip versions when upgrading its likely to break
[04:21] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: congrats, now you *have* to run Ubuntu
[04:21] <gnomefreak> s/or/of
[04:21] <jwolff> I'm skipping versions?
[04:21] <jwolff> warty to breezy to dapper, right?
[04:21] <pianoboy3333> cps: and, how do I get rid of somthing off of the system menu?!?
[04:21] <webben> godfather: see especially this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods#head-16d4b26b1e26b89262d400f91db007f603d3bd42 and this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods#head-56ed59867c447c914e5c1dad880fa52bfe8bbd63
[04:21] <gnomefreak> jwolff: yes warty>hoary>breezy>dapper
[04:21] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: you may just be able to go from warty to dapper
[04:21] <cps> pianoboy3333: the easiest way is just to remove the shortcuts from their menus, but if you really want to stop them then you could do things like change the permissions on the binaries
[04:22] <meez> hey, im having a real problem... atm im in irssi on recovery mode... when I run ubuntu normally I get put in 720x400 with a blank screen... i can upload my xorg.conf if needed, but first, anyone got any ideas? im really fucked if i cant make it work :<
[04:22] <Snow_Shelter> gnomefreak: seems like a lot of worthless downloading, why can't he just go from warty to dapper?
[04:22] <pianoboy3333> cps: nah, I think removing the shortcuts is fine
[04:22] <fire> ACPI: Looking for DSDT... not found!
[04:22] <jwolff> yeah, If I can get x to work again... I upgraded all of my warty packages, and after restarting I'm getting errors and can't start x
[04:22] <gnomefreak> Snow_Shelter: that might beable to be done but he didnt do that he already upgraded from warty to breezy
[04:22] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: what kind of errors?
[04:22] <mikearthur> I can't get my blog connecting to my mysql database
[04:22] <gnomefreak> jwolff: nvidia card?
[04:23] <cps> pianoboy3333: yeah I wouldn't want to mess around with them
[04:23] <Snow_Shelter> gnomefreak: oh, ok
[04:23] <jwolff> ati card
[04:23] <jwolff> font errors
[04:23] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: ouch
[04:23] <pianoboy3333> cps: but how do I rid of the shortcuts?
[04:23] <erUSUL> meez: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg??
[04:23] <Snow_Shelter> gnomefreak: yeah, he should just reinstall
[04:23] <jwolff> so I installed xfonts-base, and now even more errors
[04:23] <cps> pianoboy3333: alacarte lets you edit the system menus
[04:23] <gnomefreak> jwolff: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure its set on vesa drivers
[04:23] <pianoboy3333> I didn't know that...
[04:23] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: ok, installed every package that starts with, or contains xorg, and get an nVidia card
[04:23] <meez> not yet erUSUL, but i can try
[04:23] <meez> would have to reconfigure my mouse i guess :<
[04:23] <jwolff> so I should reinstall warty, and re download the dapper iso and just go from there?
[04:23] <Snow_Shelter> install*
[04:24] <jwolff> heh
[04:24] <meez> ill try it now
[04:24] <gnomefreak> jwolff: please read what i said above
[04:24] <rambo3> !info x-window-system-core
[04:24] <ubotu> x-window-system-core: X Window System core components. In repository main, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 36 kB
[04:24] <jwolff> I've tried reconfiguring x
[04:24] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: I'd just jump to dapper and deal with the issues there
[04:24] <ryanakca> For some reason "HTTP_PROXY=http://localhost:4001" keeps on showing up in "env". each time I have to run "export -n HTTP_PROXY". Is there a way to make it permanent (so that it doesn't keep on showing up)?
[04:24] <gnomefreak> jwolff: did you set the driver on vesa?
[04:24] <cps> pianoboy3333: at the bottom of the left hand pane is the system menu
[04:24] <jwolff> how do I do that?
[04:24] <Turms> updating edgy, among dependancies of xorg i find libgl1-mesa-glx but it is not available, where is it?
[04:24] <gnomefreak> jwolff: the command i gave you above
[04:24] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: remind me why you're taking the time to trouble shoot something that's just transitionary?
[04:24] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:25] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: that *should* update you to the newest version of dapper
[04:25] <gnomefreak> Snow_Shelter: not a good idea atm
[04:25] <jwolff> gnome: I did that exact command, but I don't know what you mean by "make sure it's on vesa drivers"
[04:25] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: complete with a whole new set of problems
[04:25] <Snow_Shelter> GnarlyBob: why not?
[04:25] <gnomefreak> andrewp: if there is the issue the issue will not be fixed during upgrade
[04:25] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: he means go into the xorg.conf and put (crud, I forget what it's called)
[04:25] <gnomefreak> lol
[04:25] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: it's like something
[04:25] <dr_willis> 'vesa' as the driver ? :P
[04:26] <gnomefreak> s/andr/snoe_selter
[04:26] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: you wont have 3D accel anymore
[04:26] <gnomefreak> dredhammer: yes
[04:26] <gnomefreak> dr_willis: yes
[04:26] <Snow_Shelter> gnomefreak: nick job of speeling
[04:26] <jwolff> this would all be a lot easier if I could just burn the dapper iso that's on my HD, the problem is, x won't start and I'm stuck at the command line
[04:26] <gnomefreak> jwolff: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:26] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: growisofs
[04:26] <gnomefreak> Snow_Shelter: its this damn auto complete
[04:26] <jwolff> growisofs?
[04:27] <Snow_Shelter> GnarlyBob: I know what you mean
[04:27] <Snow_Shelter> (lol)
[04:27] <gnomefreak> jwolff: im telling you how
[04:27] <pianoboy3333> cps: that is an awsome program
[04:27] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: yea, its what all gui cd writing apps call
[04:27] <jwolff> ah, okay, thanks
[04:27] <pianoboy3333> cps: I'll be right back
[04:27] <webben> Okay -- somebody kindly told me sudo _is_ supposed to pick up the /etc/environment path from the user running it. But it isn't for me. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to bludgeon sudo into behaving properly. (I'm trying to get it to run ruby from /opt/ruby/bin)
[04:27] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: it's the way to burn CDs from command line
[04:27] <Snow_Shelter> webben: get a really big stick
[04:27] <jwolff> gnome:  I've tried that, and it didn't work... maybe I don't have it set to vesa drivers?
[04:28] <webben> nope, still not working
[04:28] <jwolff> alright, I'll try all of this, thanks guys
[04:28] <jrib> webben: does your users $PATH contain that?
[04:28] <erUSUL> webben: sudo -s ??
[04:28] <webben> it's in my /etc/environment
[04:29] <Snow_Shelter> webben: take sudo to the doctor?
[04:29] <webben> and yes if i do echo $PATH it contains it
[04:29] <godfather> tnx guys for your tricks
[04:29] <Snow_Shelter> webben: sudo passwd root
[04:29] <jrib> webben: that wasn't my question ;)  $PATH gets set in /etc/login.defs when you use X
[04:29] <Snow_Shelter> webben: then just use root for whatever you were using sudo for
[04:29] <dr4g> I've installed ubuntu (i'm running the live CD now but i can mount the partition to edit files)... Now, when i boot up.. Grub error 18 initiated.. and nothing boots... I've googled previously ofcourse, and they say i need a small partition at the start of my HDD at location "/boot", can anyone give me some advice/help on setting this up?
[04:30] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: did you let windoze partition your drive?
[04:30] <webben> and ruby works direct from my account, and echo $PATH is correct, and (even more infuriatingly) sudo echo $PATH is correct
[04:30] <webben> but sudo still can't do "sudo ruby". And if i do sudo -i then the path goes wrong.
[04:30] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: wait, that isn't the problem
[04:30] <snoops> dr4g got multiple drives?
[04:30] <jrib> webben: ok if your path contains it, then that's different
[04:30] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: you need to tell grub to install in the MBR
[04:30] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: that's what I do, and it works every time
[04:30] <webben> jrib: I'm in one of the ctrl + alt + f2 type consoles --- does that count as "using X" ?
[04:31] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: wait, is linux on drive B, and windows is on drive A?
[04:31] <jrib> webben: nope
[04:31] <Snow_Shelter> webben: ctrl + alt + F7 is X
[04:31] <snoops> Snow_Shelter I'm assuming grub installed itself on the wrong mbr (it happened to me)..heh
[04:31] <Snow_Shelter> webben: also ctrl + alt + F8 is X:1
[04:32] <ikken> is it easy to set up Xgl/Compiz?
[04:32] <Snow_Shelter> snoops: yea, that's probably what happened
[04:32] <dr4g> hi there Snow_Shelter snoops didnt see the replied
[04:32] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: unplug any HDDs that aren't what you're gonna be installing linux on, and then reinstall
[04:32] <Ayabara> are there any major drawbacks to formatting a 150GB external hd as fat32 to be able to access it from both ubuntu and xp?
[04:32] <dr4g> I have one HDD
[04:32] <dr4g> Windows is on partition 0
[04:32] <dr4g> Linux on partition 1
[04:32] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: actually
[04:32] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: yea, unplug the HDD then reinstall linux ;)
[04:32] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: seriously
[04:32] <snoops> ikken yes and no.. depends on how familiar you are with linux
[04:33] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: you on the live CD?
[04:33] <dr4g> how can i unplug a HDD that i wanna install on
[04:33] <snoops> dr4g umm if you have one hdd.. and you've installed..
[04:33] <cps> Ayabara: can't have files more than 4GB
[04:33] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: I was kidding
[04:33] <dr4g> Snow_Shelter: sorry lol
[04:33] <ikken> snoops: what are the advantages of installing it?
[04:33] <dr4g> Yes i'm on live CD right now
[04:33] <dr4g> Ive installed my OS.. and i've managed to mount it
[04:33] <Marktzar> is there a change back ground command in ubuntu?
[04:33] <Marktzar> bsetbg
[04:33] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: is the / paritition mounted?
[04:33] <Marktzar> like bsetbg*
[04:33] <dr4g> so i can WRITE to that partition#
[04:33] <jrib> webben: strange 'man sudo' led me to believe it uses the users PATH but that's not the case when i try it
[04:33] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: do this
[04:34] <pianoboy3333> cps: so, once I make all my changes in sabayon, I do profile->save and then it's good? have you ever used it before?
[04:34] <snoops> ikken an open gl rendered desktop, showcasing a few things that I believe will become standard for a new age of desktop environments.. lots of issues still of course. It's still in alpha
[04:34] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: sudo chroot /dev/hdaX
[04:34] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: grub install
[04:34] <dr4g> ok
[04:34] <dr4g> hold up
[04:34] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: and that should install grub on your MBR
[04:34] <Carmen-> WHERE DO I FIND THE LATEST UBUNTU LIVE DOWNLOAD
[04:34] <ikken> snoops: would you have to have a lot of RAM and a nice video card to use it?
[04:34] <Carmen-> I DONT WANT THE INSTALL CD
[04:34] <Ayabara> cps: knew about that one and that won't be a problem
[04:34] <Carmen-> THE LIVE CD
[04:34] <jrib> Carmen-: ubuntu.com click on download
[04:34] <Snow_Shelter> Carmen-: WHY ARE YOU YELLING?
[04:34] <Carmen-> NO
[04:34] <jrib> Carmen-: and no need for caps :)
[04:34] <cps> pianoboy3333: I've played around with it before, sounds right
[04:34] <Carmen-> IM MAD
[04:34] <Snow_Shelter> Carmen-: cool it
[04:34] <Carmen-> THEY UBNTU PAGE ONLY GIVES INSTALL DISKS
[04:35] <Ayabara> Carmen: count to 10
[04:35] <gnomefreak> Carmen-: lose the caps
[04:35] <webbe1> Here's a demonstration of my sudo hell (this time from a putty console):  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17544
[04:35] <Snow_Shelter> Carmen-: retard
[04:35] <dr_willis> The Live cd is the Install cd.
[04:35] <snoops> ikken you'll want a 3d capable nvidia or ati card basically.. not sure on lots of ram (don't think it needs much)
[04:35] <Snow_Shelter> Carmen-: you on i686 or x86_64?
[04:35] <dr_willis> or you use the alternative or server cd.
[04:35] <Samuli^> Carmen-, normal install cd is live cd. Now, shut up.
[04:35] <shocktrooper1>  "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display'
[04:35] <Snow_Shelter> woah, sorry
[04:35] <cps> Ayabara: I use a FAT partition to share data between XP and Linux and it works fine
[04:35] <dr_willis> i think he missclicked. :)
[04:36] <Snow_Shelter> Samuli^: no, the normal install CD is text based install
[04:36] <webbe1> i can't even understand how this path gets set in the first place: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
[04:36] <dr4g> back Snow_Shelter my GF phoned :P
[04:36] <Samuli^> Snow_Shelter, by normal you mean alternate?
[04:36] <webbe1> how does it know to include X11R6 for instance?
[04:36] <dredhammer> hello folks can anyone direct me to a recent guide for installing xgl and compiz on dapper drake and how exactly can i create a limited user account that allows only web browsing, breezy allowed this with ease
[04:36] <snoops> Carmen- grab the desktop cd.. it's both a live cd + graphical install
[04:36] <dr4g> okay.... chroot thing didnt work..
[04:36] <dr4g> grub install worked.. i now have a grub prompt
[04:36] <dr4g> now what ?
[04:36] <Snow_Shelter> Samuli^: no, the 'install' disc is a text install only.
[04:36] <gnomefreak> Carmen-: ubuntu.com look for desktop cd
[04:36] <pianoboy3333> cps: is there a tutorial or something, on how to use it?
[04:36] <erUSUL> shocktrooper1: you have to add a line 'load "glx"' in the modules section of your xorg.conf afaics
[04:36] <dr4g> Remember its the error 18 i'm getting Snow_Shelter
[04:36] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: type install
[04:36] <Carmen-> ok
[04:36] <Carmen-> thanks guys
[04:37] <mc__> Snow_Shelter, you are wrong
[04:37] <Samuli^> Snow_Shelter, check again. Install cd is live/install and alternate install is text-mode.
[04:37] <dr4g> install /dev/hdaX
[04:37] <dr4g> ?
[04:37] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: hold on, let me check
[04:37] <mc__> Snow_Shelter, on the desktop cd only "Live" exists
[04:37] <gnomefreak> there is no install disk
[04:37] <Ayabara> I have a 100gb drive on my laptop. the xp partition is 12gb. how much should I use for the partition I will install ubuntu on?
[04:37] <gnomefreak> you have desktop/alternative/server
[04:37] <Snow_Shelter> Samuli^: well when I downloaded 6.06, the Live CD was one option, and the install CD was another, I don't know what it's migrated to since then.
[04:38] <shocktrooper1> erUSUL, 'Load "glx"
[04:38] <dr4g> i get the grub prompt, and i type install and it says "invalid device requested"
[04:38] <Snow_Shelter> gnomefreak: oh, ok
[04:38] <webbe1> where is the authoritative documentation on how Ubuntu's freakish sudo system is supposed to work?
[04:38] <cps> pianoboy3333: there's one here: http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/sabayon it might be a bit out of date
[04:38] <gnomefreak> !sudo > webbe1
[04:38] <rambo3> dr4g, error 18 is it the error where /boot/grub dir is to far for BIOS to read
[04:38] <shocktrooper1> erUSUL, "load "glx"' is already there
[04:38] <gnomefreak> webbe1: read your pm from ubotu
[04:38] <erUSUL> shocktrooper1: yes something like that 
[04:38] <Foobal> webbel: freakish?
[04:38] <Samuli^> Snow_Shelter, I don't care what it was when you downloaded :)
[04:38] <kevinz> i am really puzzled. I see this "W: GPG error: http://hk.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>" and i have follow some instruction from forum as "gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 437D05B5; gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -". but still the same
[04:38] <stefg> Ayabara: a standard install will be fine on 4-5 GB.. Conider a separate /home ond maybe /var partition.
[04:38] <dr4g> rambo - can you give me oadvice on fixing it ?
[04:38] <Snow_Shelter> Samuli^: glad to hear
[04:39] <shocktrooper1> its already there erUSUL
[04:39] <erUSUL> shocktrooper1: which card is yours? what drivers are you using?
[04:39] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: well I don't know... sorry
[04:39] <dr4g> Snow_Shelter: error 18.. you don't know ?
[04:39] <maltron> hi - my sound isn't working properly - it won't mix sounds from two different apps.  mplayer reports that /dev/dsp is busy and can't be opened.  This has happened after some wrangling when no sound would work at all, after skype beta mucked around with my system.  Try as i might i can't get it back.  Running dapper
[04:39] <shocktrooper1> GeForce MX400, yes its old, and IA32
[04:39] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: hold on...
[04:39] <gnomefreak> !grub > dr4g
[04:39] <dr4g> rambo3: down to you dude... no1 else knows.
[04:39] <gnomefreak> dr4g: read your pm from ubotu
[04:39] <dr4g> ok
[04:39] <gnomefreak> dr4g: there is a section on errors and how to fix them
[04:39] <Ayabara> stefg: ok. what goes in /var?
[04:39] <erUSUL> shocktrooper1: are you using nvidia binary drivers
[04:39] <erUSUL> ?
[04:40] <rambo3> you ll have to make boot parition betwean 0-60 gig for bios to read it . some bios cant understand adress that is larger then some number
[04:40] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: what stage do you get the error in?
[04:40] <shocktrooper1> erUSUL, yes, the nvidia splash shows when I boot
[04:40] <dr4g> bootup
[04:40] <dr4g> gnomefreak: i've looked on google, and its told me to install a partition on /boot
[04:40] <jrib> webbe1: ok this might have soemthing to do with it from man sudo: PATH Set to a sane value if sudo was configured with  the --with-secure-path option
[04:40] <dr4g> But i have questions about doing that now
[04:40] <erUSUL> Ayabara: variable data such as caches and logs; spool for mail and printers too
[04:40] <dr4g> Am i in the right direction ?
[04:40] <rambo3> dr4g, is it an old computer and where is ubuntu installed parition and at about what Gig ()
[04:40] <erUSUL> !nvidia > shocktrooper1
[04:40] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: read http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Stage2-errors.html#Stage2-errors
[04:40] <stefg> Ayabara: /var holds logfiles, the apt-cache and in some cases mail... stuff which should only grow to a certain limit
[04:41] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: that contains details about error 18
[04:41] <shocktrooper1> erUSUL, the drivers are already installed
[04:41] <dr4g> okay.. i'll have a read..
[04:41] <jwolff> hey again
[04:41] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: hey
[04:41] <stefg> Ayabara: tell me how much RAM you have, how much diskspace you have and i could suggest a partition layout
[04:41] <jwolff> growisofs won't work... it asks for a DVD?
[04:41] <dr4g> rambo3: its a new PC... i have windows on parition 0, ubuntu on partition 1, and swap partition on 3
[04:41] <rambo3> dr4g, you have to partition your harddrive and create a small boot parition
[04:41] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: is this a dvd image, or a cd image?
[04:41] <webbe1> gnomefreak: thanks ... i have looked at that wiki page ... it doesn't mention "path" or "environment variables" specifically
[04:41] <jwolff> reconfiguring x didn't do a thing either
[04:42] <dr4g> windows == 77GB
[04:42] <dr4g> nix == 33
[04:42] <dr4g> swap = 1
[04:42] <webbe1> gnomefreak: but thanks
[04:42] <rambo3> in the first 60 gig that is dr4g
[04:42] <jwolff> it's the dapper ppc iso, I'm pretty sure it's a CD iso
[04:42] <erUSUL> shocktrooper1: yes i know but maybe you are lacking the opengl libs or somethin. check /var/log/Xorg.0 to see if you notice any error
[04:42] <dr4g> rambo3: ? sorry i didnt catch what you meant
[04:42] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: ok, one sec
[04:42] <gnomefreak> jwolff: your ona  mac?
[04:42] <cps> pianoboy3333: on the sabayon website there is a pdf doc too: http://www.gnome.org/projects/sabayon/
[04:42] <jwolff> yeah
[04:42] <pianoboy3333> ok, thanks, cps
[04:43] <n9urk> anyone here install pear for php5?  Building dependency tree... Done
[04:43] <n9urk> Package php5-pear is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:43] <n9urk> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:43] <n9urk> is only available from another source
[04:43] <n9urk> I get that error
[04:43] <Ayabara> jwolff: my disk is 100GB, and 13 are taken by xp. I have 1GB ram.
[04:43] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: ok, I'm not totally sure, but this should be the command you need
[04:43] <n9urk> any ideas?
[04:43] <spiderbatdad> anyone familiar w/ VMware
[04:43] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: growisofs /media/yourpartition/ubuntu-6.06-live-ppc.iso=/dev/hdX
[04:43] <rambo3> dr4g, you'll have to resize windows parition and create a small boot parition , i think there are tools for that , and install /boot on that partition
[04:44] <gnomefreak> jwolff: im not sure about macs but im htinking its easier to learn cdrecord and reinstall
[04:44] <erUSUL> n9urk: maybe you lack some repos.
[04:44] <stefg> Ayabara: do you burn DVDs frequently?
[04:44] <koko> hi
[04:44] <dr4g> rambo3: i thought so.. how can i modify the size of my windows partition, i don't want to lose ANY data
[04:44] <erUSUL> !repos > n9urk
[04:44] <gnomefreak> !cdrecord
[04:44] <dr4g> atm, i can't boot into windows either
[04:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about cdrecord
[04:44] <gnomefreak> of course not
[04:44] <koko> hi snow
[04:44] <jwolff> alright, thanks
[04:44] <dr4g> rambo3: remember i can't download anything on this system
[04:44] <dr4g> rambo3: as i'm using the live CD
[04:44] <n9urk> erUSUL: do you have a suggestion as to which repo might have it?
[04:45] <erUSUL> !info php5-pear
[04:45] <ubotu> Package php5-pear does not exist in dapper
[04:45] <rambo3> dr4g, you ll have to ask someone else i am not expert .but gparted should work
[04:45] <Ayabara> stefg: not really. I store stuff I seldom use on a 300GB external, and burn backups of what I can't afford to lose
[04:45] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: growisofs -Z /dev/cdromburner=image.iso
[04:45] <erUSUL> ouch!!  it seems that iwas wrong :(
[04:45] <jrib> webbe1: yep, I expect ubuntu to do this similarly: http://survivor.sarovar.org/SUDO_Root.html
[04:45] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: that should work
[04:46] <webbe1> in the ubuntu source package for sudo ... the debian/rules contains exactly the configure options used to build sudo for distribution - is that right?
[04:46] <spiderbatdad> anyone know where to find ia-32libs
[04:46] <gnomefreak> Snow_Shelter: hes gone
[04:46] <erUSUL> !info php-pear
[04:46] <ubotu> php-pear: PEAR - PHP Extension and Application Repository. In repository main, is optional. Version 5.1.2-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 294 kB, installed size 2172 kB
[04:46] <Snow_Shelter> gnomefreak: thanks, I noticed that when my auto completion didn't work
[04:46] <gnomefreak> spiderbatdad: sudo apt-get install ia-32libs
[04:46] <dr4g> Okay, well i can boot into windows and change the parition size.. however.. grub has fucked the windows bootloader..
[04:46] <erUSUL> n9urk: is php-pear
[04:46] <dr4g> How can i remove grub, to make a new windows bootloader
[04:46] <n9urk> erUSUL: ok thanks
[04:46] <jrib> webbe1: yes it should
[04:47] <xuser> Hi, any ideas on getting wpasupplicant working?
[04:47] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: yea, that isn't an option
[04:47] <^^Bran^^> lo folks
[04:47] <gnomefreak> thought it would have been peer :(
[04:47] <webbe1> jrib: ah, then looking at the debian/rules, I think you're on exactly the right track
[04:47] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: you must first travel to the other side of the dark valley
[04:47] <erUSUL> !grub > dr4g
[04:47] <spiderbatdad> gnomefreak: package not found....all repositories enabled
[04:47] <Foobal> dr4g: grub can handle both just fine if you set it up properly..
[04:47] <webbe1> so is this a bug or a feature?
[04:47] <rambo3> dr4g, repair MBR with your FIXMBR on windows cd , boot into windows and done
[04:47] <gnomefreak> spiderbatdad: what version of ubuntu?
[04:47] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: grub will boot you into windows, you just have to configure it
[04:47] <spiderbatdad> 6.06 lts..."gnomefreak"
[04:47] <pianoboy3333> cps: what happens when you make a setting mandatory?
[04:48] <jrib> webbe1: feature it seems.  Also, some sites indicate that if you are in the 'sudo' group it will ignore that path and use your user's.  But it won't prompt you for a password
[04:48] <gnomefreak> ok spiderbatdad hold on
[04:48] <dr4g> rambo3: thats what i was going to rambo3 but my windows disks are beind idiots
[04:48] <dredhammer> so who can point me to the latest install xgl compiz guide for dapper?
[04:48] <cps> pianoboy3333: it means they can't change it
[04:48] <stefg> So my suggestion would be (in disk order) 5 GB root, 2 GB swap, 1,5 GB /var, the rest could be /home. I normally have the 'big space' mounted on a /store mountpoint, leaving (/home on the root-part) and only symlink the music, video and stuff folders to it
[04:48] <webbe1> jrib: thus defeating much of the point of sudo in the first place!
[04:48] <gnomefreak> i know its in dapper i had issues with it
[04:49] <spiderbatdad> gnomefreak: i'm trying use vmware
[04:49] <gnomefreak> spiderbatdad: give mea  min ill find it
[04:49] <natouno> Anyone besides me having trouble connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[04:50] <Minty> is it easy to update dapper 32 to 64 version as I'm on a 64 amd ?
[04:50] <gnomefreak> spiderbatdad: what do you need it for?
[04:50] <nasosub> hey people i have a question
[04:50] <spiderbatdad> gnomefreak: vmware server
[04:50] <gnomefreak> Minty: its eh (personally i would stick with 32bit)
[04:51] <gnomefreak> k spiderbatdad hold on
[04:51] <dr4g> bbiab rambo3 Snow_Shelter thanks for your support
[04:51] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: good luck
[04:51] <snoops> Minty yeah stick with 32bit for desktop, honestly
[04:51] <Minty> okay thanks
[04:51] <Snow_Shelter> snoops: 64bit is awesome, don't turn people away from it
[04:51] <stefg> Ayabara: and read about tmpfs.. it pays to have the /tmp in virtual memory. Thus there's the use for the large swap
[04:52] <snoops> Snow_Shelter until you try and use flash and find there's only 32bit support, no wine support, no win32 codecs
[04:52] <snoops> shall I go on?
[04:52] <murph2481> is there an application for gnome that is like kicker for KDE? where i can press alt spacebar and type the application i want to run???
[04:52] <snoops> you *can* get it all working, but the hastle involved in inane
[04:53] <murph2481> opps i think its called katapault for KDE
[04:53] <snoops> s/in/is
[04:53] <ddonky> can anyone recommend a good 5.1 surround card for Dapper?
[04:53] <Ayabara> stefg: thanks! now I just gotta think and see if I understood you? I need to read up on the folder structure in Linux...
[04:54] <gnomefreak> spiderbatdad: i dont know i know i had issues with it a while back (when i was on dapper) but i cant find it now
[04:54] <nasosub> i get "plugin for MRL" when i try to play movies through my server (remote computer on my network )
[04:54] <nasosub> does anyone have any idea for the solution ?
[04:54] <tailsfan> IS there a GUI for wvdial?
[04:54] <spiderbatdad> gnomefreak:thanx for looking
[04:54] <snoops> Ayabara I found http://www.secguru.com/files/linux_file_structure.jpg very very helpful..maybe you'll find it helpful too
[04:54] <Snow_Shelter> snoops: I use a 32bit chroot for wine, and firefox windows edition, I can do flash *and* shockwave :P
[04:55] <Ayabara> snoops: thanks. _just_ what I was looking for :-)
[04:55] <tailsfan> How big is a wine download?
[04:55] <Snow_Shelter> tailsfan: 15MB
[04:55] <shocktrooper1> thankyou erUSUL
[04:55] <rambo3> not big but their servers are slow
[04:56] <linopil> !mp3
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[04:56] <snoops> Snow_Shelter right.. making a 32bit chroot is part of the 'but the hastle involved is inane'
[04:56] <stefg> Ayabara: feel free to ask, if you are unsure about smething
[04:56] <Snow_Shelter> snoops: ok, well it wasn't that hard
[04:56] <tailsfan> Oh
[04:56] <tailsfan> and again is there a GUI for wvdial
[04:57] <Ayabara> stefg: just about to start ;-)
[04:58] <stefg> Ayabara: in any case, i#d recommend not to use the automatic scheme that the installer suggests...
[04:58] <nasosub> i have the codecs and i can play any file located on mu hdd or cdrom but not on my network
[04:58] <andriijas> is there any howto on xgl with ati graphics card?
[04:59] <snoops> yes
[04:59] <andriijas> where? :D
[04:59] <pdavid> hi all
[04:59] <Ayabara> stefg: I think I will use the setup you suggest. thought about giving the xp install a fat32 storage partition but I'm not sure
[04:59] <Cntryboy> anyone know where I can download a codec pack for kaffiene, that supports all movie formats?
[04:59] <tailsfan> Does anyone know a good place for ALSA Soundcard Drivers
[04:59] <tailsfan> I;m trying to find one for my soundcard
[04:59] <ardchoille> Does anyone know of a recipe app for gnome?
[04:59] <pdavid> how can i have an external usb drive recognized after booting by udev?
[04:59] <snoops> andriijas  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager/Xgl
[04:59] <andriijas> thx
[04:59] <stefg> Ayabara: Oh yes... you'll need a fat32 for data exchange
[05:00] <Ayabara> stefg: when I start adding applications and stuff, this will be put in my /root partition right?
[05:00] <kevinz> hello. Could anyone help me to check this repository site http://hk.archive.ubuntu.com/. i am suffering from a GPG error from this local site.
[05:00] <Ayabara> stefg: could use the external for this
[05:00] <snoops> Ayabara if you're dual booting windows, you can use a windows ext3 driver that was made by some people
[05:01] <tailsfan> or either that or is alsaplayer important?
[05:01] <stefg> Ayabara: you could as well use the 'big rest' as fat32... but then cannot use it as /home
[05:01] <Ayabara> snoops: have used that one and it worked quite well for me
[05:01] <darkowl> can anyone tell me how can i install windwos after installing ubuntu so that it doesnt delete my ubuntu partition and that boot manager works ?
[05:02] <Ayabara> stefg: ok. than I will put /home one the root part and symlink to the fat32 like you said?
[05:02] <snoops> darkowl it'll delete your boot manager no matter what.. but if you follow  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:02] <snoops> you can get that back
[05:02] <stefg> yes, that's the best layout .For /root and /var i'd use reiserfs (faster than ext3)
[05:02] <snoops> ideally, you'll be installing windows on another partition right darkowl?
[05:02] <darkowl> yes but i dont know how to make a partition
[05:03] <Foobal> ext3 is just fine, as long as you don't handle directories with more than 10 000 files (after which ext3 starts sucking fast)
[05:03] <snoops> so there is unpartitioned space on the drive you want to install it on darkowl?
[05:03] <CY> hi guyd
[05:03] <snoops> because the windows installer lets you create partitions..
[05:04] <darkowl> i think there isnt any fre space...all my hard disk space is of ubuntu
[05:04] <Ayabara> stefg: won't 5bg for root+home be too little if I start adding a lot of apps?
[05:04] <snoops> oh gosh.. well that makes things a lot more difficult
[05:05] <tailsfan> What is the wiki that it shows that the XP installer is still in the computer even after erasing the drive
[05:05] <firstpua> Hello, is there a channel or group about the newsreader Pan? I am trying to learn how to creat filters for spam.
[05:05] <snoops> darkowl so you'll have to resize the current ubuntu partition for space.. which isn't fun, because there's always the risk of data loss after it
[05:06] <darkowl> how ?
[05:06] <snoops> I'm not sure if you can use gparted to resize partitions - anyone can confirm?
[05:06] <stefg> Ayabara: the complete install of EVERYHING is about 7GB.. an average system will be 3 GB.. you could rise the space for / to 10GB if you want to build software on it,
[05:07] <erf> Is there anyway to install ubuntu in a dos type installer?
[05:07] <erf> "Safe Graphics Mode" doesn't work
[05:07] <snoops> you mean the text based install that the alternate cd offers?
[05:07] <darkowl> hey snoops do you know how can I install windows under linux ?
[05:07] <Ayabara> stefg: ok. now I have a plan, and 97% of the ubuntu cd is burned :-)
[05:07] <danfg> I don't have a "Multimedia Systems Selector" under System > Preferences. I'm using Ubuntu Dapper. Where do i find that?
[05:07] <serge> How do I copy Xfce configuration and desktop appearence from a user account to the root account?
[05:07] <stefg> good... fresh meat :-)
[05:08] <erf> spoop, what alternate CD? I only have the red cd
[05:08] <RyanTMulligan> How do I figure out what type of NIC my computer has?
[05:08] <gonniff> hello!
[05:08] <snoops> erf there's a desktop cd - which is a live cd with graphical installer, an alternate cd - which is the text based install cd with a few more advanced options.. then there's the server cd - which doesn't include X
[05:08] <danfg> stefg: thanks for the sound tip, one thing though, I don't have a "Multimedia Systems Selector" under System > Preferences. I'm using Ubuntu Dapper. where is it?
[05:09] <gonniff> Has anyone here noticed problems between wireless and LAN networking in Ubuntu
[05:09] <serge> darkowl, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Windows_9X.2FME.2F2000.2FXP_.28Win4Lin.29
[05:09] <erf> Damn it.
[05:09] <cps> danfg: run gstreamer-properties
[05:09] <stefg> danfg: that's an obsolete thing which only apllied to hoary (?) and earlier
[05:09] <snoops> serge I think he's wanting to dual boot rather
[05:09] <webben> oh great, i've just borked my /etc/sudoers file ... other than sudoedit how else can i edit it?
[05:10] <riddlebox> how do I clear errors in apt-get?
[05:10] <tailsfan> ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture: Could not open resource for writing.
[05:11] <tailsfan> what does that mean
[05:11] <snoops> darkowl so were you wanting to dual boot or just run a few windows applications on linux?
[05:11] <serge> snoops, i see, well in that case darkowl, setup a partition on you're harddrive using gparted to change you're linux partition size and then make another Fat32 partition and install windows
[05:11] <RyanTMulligan> I was reading: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot and it says to make an Etherboot image for my NIC, but I don't know how to find out what my NIC is..
[05:11] <webben> how can i get edit /etc/sudoers without a working sudo?
[05:11] <snoops> serge ah cool I asked before for him if gparted allowed partition resizing
[05:11] <Ayabara> stefg, snoops: thanks for helping me out. starting the procedure now :-)
[05:11] <serge> yeah it does :)
[05:12] <ardchoille> webben: why do you not have a working sudo?
[05:12] <serge> snoops, only for certain filesystems mind you
[05:12] <danfg> cps: thanks :)
[05:12] <webben> ardchoille: like i said above, i just borked my sudoers file ... so i need to fix it
[05:12] <Tourinho> hello there.. to use x700 ati card I just need to download xorg-drivers-fglrx?
[05:12] <ardchoille> webben: ok, do you have a copy of knoppix or MEPIS?
[05:13] <SurfnKid> morning
[05:13] <webben> maybe of knoppix
[05:13] <stpere> !xgl
[05:13] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:13] <serge> Tourinho,  i second i'll get you a howto
[05:13] <darkowl> snoops , serge I want to install windows OS..but I'm reading about WIN4LIN so if I find it for download I will install Windows under linux
[05:13] <webben> is there no ubuntu rescue mode any more?
[05:13] <Tourinho> serge ok, thanks
[05:13] <SurfnKid> Welll I finally upgraded to 2.6.12 and im not in breezy anymore! yey thought it would be hard but nah
[05:13] <SurfnKid> got a question about XGL
[05:14] <snoops> well you can just use a virtual machine, like vmware for that darkowl
[05:14] <webben> (and to stop me doing this again is it possible to verify a sudoers file as syntactically okay?)
[05:14] <snoops> SurfnKid shoot
[05:14] <SurfnKid> can I begin the XGL/Compiz configuration on an upgraded box
[05:14] <ardchoille> webben: iirc, you can reboot and boot into single user mode and that will drop you into a root terminal
[05:14] <SurfnKid> or does it have to be clean fresh Dapper install
[05:14] <mc__> i cant install the package cl-uffi,apt get says it has no installation candidates
[05:14] <webben> ardchoille: i'll try, thanks
[05:14] <darkowl> snoops: but then I cant save anything...
[05:14] <snoops> oh you should be able to install compiz/xgl fine on an upgraded box SurfnKid
[05:14] <serge> Tourinho, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide just click on you're version and it talks you though it
[05:14] <SurfnKid> rock on
[05:14] <snoops> darkowl save anything?
[05:14] <kbrooks> SurfnKid: either
[05:14] <ardchoille> webben: You're welcome :)  also, use sudo visudo to edit sudoers
[05:15] <SurfnKid> I broke my fears, I achieved the unachieved ( at least with me ) hehe
[05:15] <gonniff> I'm finding LAN and wireless don't like each other on my laptop (using Dapper)
[05:15] <Tourinho> serge thanks.. Ill see it
[05:15] <gonniff> Has anyone else had this problem?
[05:15] <webben> ardchoille: would that verify the syntax?
[05:15] <SurfnKid> gonniff, what prob?
[05:15] <darkowl> snoops if I setup vmware and I install a game when i exit vmware my game is lost...
[05:15] <SurfnKid> gonniff, what card
[05:15] <ardchoille> webben: not sure, but, afaik, that is the proper way to edit sudoers
[05:16] <gonniff> If I leave the office without deactivating ethernet, my wireless won't work at home
[05:16] <serge> darkowl, if you only want to install games then use dual boot or use winex or cedega
[05:16] <gonniff> SurfnKid: not sure - let me try to check - I've got a loaner machine from the office
[05:16] <snoops> darkowl settings are saved in vmware.. but you really can't do any gaming in vmware.. wrong tool for that
[05:16] <Tourinho> just another noob question.. What should I do to install kubuntu into my hard disk from live cd?
[05:16] <depi> hi, how can I play multiple sound at once at Dapper?
[05:16] <snoops> double click the install icon Tourinho :)
[05:17] <SurfnKid> gonniff, do ifconfig down/up the adapter and try searching for an essid  or unless youre wired, attempt to down/up the interface
[05:17] <Tourinho> snoops I dont have graphics right now :)
[05:17] <serge> How do I copy Xfce configuration and desktop appearence from a user account to the root account?
[05:17] <stefg> depi: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[05:18] <darkowl> snoops I'm not talking onl about games I want to run programs too that are not working with wine... If I setup a game using winex or cedega wich video drivers are used ? from linux ? Or can I install windwos drivers ? Because my Ati card doesnt work under linux
[05:18] <SurfnKid> Dam im  just happy i was able to get my wifi and ATI card in less than 15 minutes going, that was a super fast setup, now i just need my fans working and XGL
[05:18] <snoops> Tourinho ah then you can't use the desktop cd to install.. since it's a live cd+graphical installer only
[05:18] <gonniff> SurfnKid: yeah, I've done that, thanks for the tip. It's working now, it just seems to be a case of turn off LAN or boot at home, deactiveate both, and reboot a couple of times otherwise
[05:18] <TBUHP666> Hi i am at the login screen of ubuntu and my display is bad picture?
[05:18] <gonniff> My card info is as follows: RealTek RTL8139  Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D'
[05:18] <SurfnKid> gonniff, sounds like a pain if youve got work you want to continue without rebooting
[05:18] <Tourinho> damn! Okey.. Ill try to solve on problem at time :D
[05:18] <Tourinho> thank u all
[05:19] <serge> np, Tourinho
[05:19] <gonniff> yeah, it sure is. But then, ACPI really doesn't like this either. :)
[05:19] <SurfnKid> really? is it set up in the lsmod?
[05:19] <gonniff> I tried a test this morning: closed all apps, locked the screen and then came back about 15 minutes later. Machine was locked up. Had to reboot.
[05:19] <gonniff> I'm not complaining - I think Dapper rules!
[05:19] <snoops> Tourinho the alternate cd is the text based install one
[05:19] <SurfnKid> gonniff, my breezy had acpi broken or just not complete, but dapper got it all put together
[05:19] <TBUHP666> anyone?
[05:19] <gonniff> I used to be a huge SuSE fan, but this is much better for daily computing
[05:20] <depi> stefg: okay I lok there, I already tried this guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_configure_sound_to_work_properly_in_GNOME
[05:20] <SurfnKid> gonniff, yeah definitely
[05:20] <serge> How do I copy Xfce configuration and desktop appearence from a user account to the root account?
[05:20] <SonicChao> gonniff: Ok, what's wrong then?
[05:20] <gonniff> SurfnKid: funny that! I wonder what's the deal with this laptop. But then again, it's not mine - it belongs to the company, so I can't complain
[05:20] <gonniff> On the whole, very good!
[05:20] <SurfnKid> I wonder about that
[05:21] <SonicChao> gonniff: Um...ok...
[05:21] <SurfnKid> if there is a laptop that has everything dapper can be configured for
[05:21] <gonniff> SonicChao: which part? The acpi or the networking?
[05:21] <Tourinho> snoops every time I boot, ubuntu is installed from live cd right? So.. to install fglrx drivers I need to reboot.. it may works this way?
[05:21] <darkowl> snoops are you here ?
[05:21] <snoops> darkowl the easiest solution for you would be to dual boot..and you should definitely be able to get your ati working in dri mode
[05:21] <SurfnKid> !XGL
[05:21] <SonicChao> gonniff: I don't know, you said your comp froze
[05:21] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:21] <snoops> Tourinho once you 'install' ubuntu, you can just boot into it without the live cd
[05:21] <gonniff> SonicChao: hahaha, sorry, too much coffee on my part. :)
[05:22] <ardchoille> serge: are you wanting the admin apps to use the same xfce themes or are you planning to log into the root account?
[05:22] <snoops> and from there you'll install anything you want etc
[05:22] <barneyR> I have an LT internal modem that dials out does the handshake, sounds like it completes handshake and then disconnects after about 30 seconds. Searched the forums and found one trick set ppp options.conf to noauth but that didn't help
[05:22] <darkowl> snoops I cant get my ATI to work under linux...I tryed everything but nothing..my card is ATI Radeon X800XT
[05:22] <SonicChao> gonniff: You can say that again, hyper :P
[05:22] <gonniff> Had two problems: acpi is broken on this laptop and have found that I can't leave the office without deactivating the ethernet adapter otherwise wireless won't come up at home
[05:22] <snoops> fglrx driver not having any fun eh darkowl?
[05:22] <gonniff> ;)
[05:22] <jas0nm> anyone here know how to configure fonts for old X programs in dapper. for instance, emacs and xmms have really ugly aliased fonts
[05:22] <gonniff> Yeah, I love coffee, it just doesn't love me!
[05:22] <SurfnKid> darkowl, have you tried installing the ATI proprietary driver? from their website
[05:22] <gonniff> :)
[05:23] <Tourinho> snoops so.. I will need the alternative cd to install text based and them have X working.. right?
[05:23] <SurfnKid> hehe
[05:23] <ardchoille> gonniff: lol
[05:23] <gonniff> I just love the ease of use with Ubuntu - first rate!
[05:23] <darkowl> no...I installed ATI drivers using easyubuntu
[05:23] <serge> ardchoille, I'd like the desktop to look the same basically, I'm only logged into root so I don't have to keep using the sudo command, and yes I know the su command works also but just for future I'd like the root account to look the same as my other user
[05:23] <SonicChao> gonniff: Okay, okay, slow down
[05:23] <gonniff> hehehe, thanks SurfnKid!
[05:23] <stefg> !info gtkfontsel > jas0nm
[05:23] <ubotu> gtkfontsel: A gtk+ based font selection utility. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.1-6 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 80 kB
[05:23] <SurfnKid> hey no prob
[05:23] <kalosaurusrex> SurfnKid: thank goodness
[05:23] <hctibtipots> i gotta dumb question about ubuntu
[05:23] <ardchoille> serge: ok
[05:23] <gonniff> Hahahaha, I'll be alright
[05:23] <SonicChao> !offtopic
[05:23] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:23] <snoops> Tourinho the alternate cd will install from a text based install, then when you reboot, your gui will start (why doesn't the live cd work for you?)
[05:23] <ludovic__> hello
[05:23] <tailsfan> dumb question but, what version of debian does ubuntu use
[05:24] <tailsfan> for dapper drake
[05:24] <gonniff> sorry, guys, didn't mean to go off topic
[05:24] <SurfnKid> no dumb question is ever dumb
[05:24] <depi> stefg: interesting is that gaim and movies sounds are okay, but when I trying to listen music with "listen" player and play music with audacity then itn ot works together
[05:24] <ardchoille> tailsfan: sid
[05:24] <gonniff> Are any of you guys big Evolution users?
[05:24] <Tourinho> snoops live cd works.. but Im having problems with X server (X700 ATI card)
[05:24] <stefg> depi: see if these apps can be configured to use an esd output
[05:24] <SonicChao> gonniff: I use Mozilla Thunderbird
[05:24] <serge> gonniff, what is it?
[05:24] <hctibtipots> is there anything out there to transfer movies from ubuntu to psp???
[05:25] <SurfnKid> darkowl, well not sure on easyubuntu im sure its the same but read up on the way you can install it, i just got the ATI driver on Dapper yesterday installed, and it practically configured everything,
[05:25] <depi> stefg: i think no :(
[05:25] <serge> aha, email client, then no :P
[05:25] <snoops> Tourinho the default xorg vesa driver shsould work fine (just without dri)
[05:25] <gonniff> serge, it's a mail client - like Outlook more or less
[05:25] <darkowl> snoops: which one do I have to download XFree86 4.3 or X.Org 6.8
[05:25] <Tourinho> snoops I said that to install into HD I need to follow graphic instruction.. so I need X server
[05:25] <tailsfan> It says command not found
[05:25] <SurfnKid> darkowl, except for the xserver-xorg which you have to do yourself but thats an easy quick selection
[05:25] <gonniff> SonicChao: yeah, me, too, normally, but thought I'd give it a second chance (hated it under Red Hat)
[05:25] <serge> gonniff, I like things that match or look the same so I use thunderbird also
[05:25] <gonniff> It still has some of the same bugs - a shame
[05:25] <stefg> depi: go through the dmix Howto... i think it's gonna work
[05:25] <Tourinho> snoops okey.. Ill try to exchange to vesa driver and comment ou dri
[05:25] <snoops> neither darkowl.. both are outdated
[05:25] <gonniff> You can't beat Thunderbird
[05:26] <depi> stefg: hmm okay
[05:26] <Tourinho> thanks.. brb :D
[05:26] <SonicChao> gonniff: Definetaly nt....:D
[05:26] <SonicChao> not*
[05:26] <darkowl> snoops: so what driver am I supose to download ?
[05:26] <serge> oki offtopic again :) lets try to stick on task here shall we :)
[05:26] <snoops> for what darkowl? someone else was helping you with something?
[05:26] <gonniff> yeah, you're right - sorry again
[05:26] <oem> any body here use windows linux?
[05:26] <jsimmons> man this install/boot stuff uis really starting to irritate me...
[05:26] <ardchoille> serge: you can run the xfce settings manager with sudo xfce-mcs-manager  and change the window manager and user interface settings. that will allow admin apps to have the same themes as the user has.
[05:26] <darkowl> ATI drivers
[05:27] <SurfnKid> i was
[05:27] <tailsfan> Ubuntu is a probematic system for me at times
[05:27] <darkowl> SurfnKid: what ATI drivers did you installed ?
[05:27] <SurfnKid> snoops, i was
[05:27] <gonniff> Ok, well, at least I'm not the only one with the networking problem. Just found a post from last month. SOmeone reported the same thing, but no one has replied. I'll post my two cents
[05:27] <snoops> darkowl install flgrx
[05:27] <oem> yes man
[05:27] <serge> ardchoille, i've got custom panels etc, will they also be moved?
[05:27] <oem> you are welcome ubuntu
[05:27] <oem> yes
[05:27] <snoops> fglrx* rather
[05:27] <SurfnKid> darkowl, the 8.25.18 version i believe from the ATI website
[05:27] <SurfnKid> snoops, hehe always mixes up
[05:27] <snoops> Tourinho hang on here.. you booted the live cd.. and installed ubuntu.. then booted into ubuntu and tried to install your ati drivers?
[05:27] <oem> i use it now
[05:27] <gonniff> Y'all take care. Thanks for the help, SurfnKid (and the coffee)!
[05:28] <darkowl> SurfnKid: its 8.26.18 but wich one ?
[05:28] <gonniff> Take care serge and SonicChao
[05:28] <SurfnKid> no probs gonniff
[05:28] <serge> :) bye
[05:28] <ardchoille> serge: no, there is actually no reason to ever have to log into the root account, so you shouldn't need to use the panels at all. I have used Linux for years without ever having to log in as root.
[05:28] <SurfnKid> you take care
[05:28] <PMantis> How can I diagnose: my laptop is slow unless I wiggle my mouse
[05:28] <oem> any beautiful girls here 17 years old
[05:28] <SurfnKid> darkowl, let me find ya the correct one
[05:28] <oem> iam from egypt cairo
[05:28] <tailsfan> oem, way too ot
[05:28] <regeya> oem, not the appropriate place for that
[05:28] <oem> aha
[05:28] <darkowl> snoops: where can I find that flgrx ?
[05:28] <SurfnKid> darkowl, which card again?
[05:28] <jsimmons> is there a way to check the hard drive for errors from the live CD?
[05:29] <oem> sorry i just jocking
[05:29] <darkowl> X800XT
[05:29] <ardchoille> oem: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:29] <SonicChao> oem: I don't think any channel on Freenode is food for that
[05:29] <snoops> darkowl have a read of what ubotu sends you
[05:29] <SurfnKid> ok gime a minute
[05:29] <serge> ardchoille, yes I know that, but, ah, nevermind I'll just leave it :) Thanks anyhow
[05:29] <oem> yes man
[05:29] <SurfnKid> !ATI
[05:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:29] <ardchoille> serge: You're welcome :)
[05:29] <erf> mmm, When I try to run the normal disc I get: mount: function not implemented
[05:29] <snoops> ah thanks SurfnKid
[05:29] <rsk> i REALLY cant get the hang of my /etc/enviroment .. i just want iso-8859-15 and sv_se utf8
[05:29] <tailsfan> BRB
[05:29] <tailsfan> have to upgrade xchat
[05:29] <darkowl> snoops ?
[05:29] <darkowl> !flgrx
[05:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about flgrx
[05:29] <rsk> and whereever i look i cant find a guide thats worth the name
[05:29] <oem> there is a virus that's control of the world
[05:29] <oem> any place
[05:29] <oem> any pc
[05:29] <snoops> !ati > darkowl
[05:30] <snoops> that.. read that
[05:30] <darkowl> !ati
[05:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:30] <rambo3> rsk is it locales  problem
[05:30] <SurfnKid> snoops, would easyubuntu or ubuntu have a difference in the driver ATI uses? it shouldnt have, right?
[05:30] <rsk> rambo3: i know
[05:30] <snoops> umm it probably does SurfnKid
[05:30] <dabbler> any possibility of entering a local directory in sources.list ?
[05:30] <jsimmons> is there a way to check the hard drive for errors from the live CD?
[05:30] <oem> bye all
[05:30] <SurfnKid> ah ok
[05:30] <oem> have fun
[05:30] <rambo3> rsk dpkg-reconfigure locales ?
[05:30] <rsk> rambo3: but where do i abaut it , possibly there should be some good docs ?
[05:30] <bbrazil> dabbler: yes
[05:30] <rsk> rambo3: that didnt do it
[05:30] <mateX> what i have to do to bind my machine to some host?
[05:30] <bbrazil> dabbler: manpage should have the format
[05:30] <SurfnKid> !fglrx > darkowl
[05:30] <snoops> because it attempts to install your binary driver I believe  SurfnKid?
[05:30] <mateX> like if i want to bind with mateX.com?
[05:31] <dabbler> any particular format...or simply path ?
[05:31] <SurfnKid> snoops, right, im wondering if the ATI driver from their website willwork with easyubuntu which im reading up on
[05:31] <darkowl> !fglrx
[05:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:31] <mateX> !IP
[05:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about IP
[05:31] <dabbler> oops ty
[05:31] <mateX> !bind
[05:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about bind
[05:31] <serge> Whats the fastest filesystem?
[05:31] <snoops> SurfnKid might be more trouble than its worth.. follow the howto
[05:32] <SurfnKid> oh wow, my mouse scroller thingy works just noticed
[05:32] <SurfnKid> snoops, yeah
[05:32] <mateX> snoops can i bind my machine with a host like mateX.com?
[05:32] <rambo3> rsk did you ask ubotu about locales
[05:32] <rsk> no but i sure wanna ask him
[05:32] <snoops> mateX bind your machine?
[05:33] <mateX> snoops like that of virtual host
[05:33] <rsk> !ubotu locales
[05:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu locales
[05:33] <rsk> ! locales
[05:33] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf
[05:33] <dredhammer> can someone tell me how to create a limited user account in dapper
[05:33] <rsk> thanks
[05:33] <dredhammer> it was easier in breezy
[05:33] <riddlebox> anyone know where I can find the howto, on creating a deb for ubuntu, that will resolve dependencies?
[05:33] <stefg> dredhammer: define limited
[05:34] <dmitr1> how do i uninstall packages from ubuntu (that dont show up in synaptics packet manager?) thanks
[05:34] <dredhammer> the options to limit what a user can do seems to be hidden
[05:34] <dredhammer> like i want one only for internet browsing
[05:34] <SurfnKid> darkowl, have you tried this driver ? http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.26.18-x86.run
[05:34] <jsimmons> is there a way to check the hard drive for errors from the live CD?
[05:34] <stefg> dredhammer: this is done via group memberships
[05:35] <snoops> dmitr1 sudo apt-get remove 'packagename'
[05:35] <SurfnKid> darkowl, are you a newby newby, do you know how to revert X if the graphic driver doesnt load
[05:35] <darkowl> SurfnKid:no, but im trying that thing from help.ubuntu so ill see if it works
[05:35] <tenco> hi
[05:35] <snoops> dmitr1 to completely remove all the settings as well you'd want to do sudo apt-get remove --purge 'packagename'
[05:35] <darkowl> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:35] <SurfnKid> darkowl, install it and reconfigure xserver
[05:35] <SurfnKid> yes that
[05:35] <tenco> how can i insert an additional tabulator in openoffice writer?
[05:35] <ardchoille> riddlebox: the .deb itself doesn't resolve dependencies.. that is the job of APT
[05:36] <SurfnKid> darkowl, chose fglrx but only after youve installed the ATI driver from that link
[05:36] <dmitr1> snoops: it couldnt find it...i'm probably getting the name wrong.how do i see all packages thatare installed (beginning with letter 't' say)
[05:36] <tenco> everytime i try to insert a tabulator, all tabs left of the inserted tabulator are getting deleted
[05:36] <wsjunior> how do i install a 32bit firefox on my 64bit machine to be able to view flash websites?
[05:36] <dredhammer> ok so i create a group called guests and from that then what?
[05:36] <darkowl> but Ill first try using that manual, if that doesnt work ill try with installing this
[05:36] <riddlebox> ardchoille, ok when I build the package I have to have something in there that will tell apt what the dependencies are right?
[05:36] <snoops> wsjunior there are a few howtos and such.. I suggest checking the forums
[05:37] <wsjunior> snoops: isnt there any simple package to install it like in gentoo?
[05:37] <dredhammer> i'm not seeing where i can edit what they can have access to
[05:37] <SurfnKid> darkowl, ok it doesnt hurt anyway what kind of lappy you got
[05:37] <Foobal> jsimmons: sudo apt-get install smartmontools, then man smartctl .. you can ask the hard disk to check it's status itself
[05:37] <ardchoille> riddlebox: yes, that lists deps, but the .deb itself doesn't resolve those deps.
[05:37] <maltron> HELP!  My sound is well and truly baked - I've tried everything I could think of to fix it - can anyone help?
[05:38] <Crescendo> I just installed a DVD-RW drive - how do I get it to show up in my burning software?  I have a feeling that the drivers for it were not installed.  How would I got about installing them?
[05:38] <SurfnKid> maltron, need more input :P
[05:38] <Foobal> jsimmons: like smartctl -t long /dev/hda for instance
[05:38] <riddlebox> ardchoille, I understand that, I just need to know how to create the deb properly so that apt will do that
[05:38] <regeya> jsimmons: I know this is offtopic, but...ever feel like you're the 10 millionth 'John Simmons'?  Ah, the number of 'John's in my family... ;-)  Yes, you can check your drive from a livecd.  if you're just wanting to run fsck, yeah, as long as you know your partition number...for instance, assuming you're using an ide drive, you let ubuntu handle the setup, all that, it'd probably be most thorough and least frustrating to run
[05:38] <regeya> 'fsck -fvy /dev/hda1'...substitute the appropriate drive/partition number for /dev/hda1 if that's wrong
[05:38] <darkowl> SurfnKid: lappy ?
[05:38] <ardchoille> riddlebox: ahh, ok, then I misunderstood your original question.. sorry about that.
[05:38] <SurfnKid> darkowl, pc or laptop
[05:39] <tenco> any idea?
[05:39] <darkowl> pc
[05:39] <riddlebox> ardchoille,  its ok :)
[05:39] <Foobal> well, he asked about checking the drive, not the filesystem on it ;)
[05:39] <SurfnKid> darkowl, dont think it should be any different
[05:39] <jsimmons> regeya, how did you know my first name was "john"?
[05:39] <SurfnKid> darkowl, let me know ill be around here for a bit, installing XGL
[05:39] <darkowl> ok
[05:39] <IB-> how can i install latest XCHAT on my ubuntu ?
[05:40] <Crescendo> IB-, sudo apt-get install xchat
[05:40] <ardchoille> IB-: sudo apt-get install xchat
[05:41] <dmitr1> snoops: maybe u can help me...i am trying to re-install truecrypt after it stopped working when i upgraded to 2.6.15-25-686. I've recompiled it, and updated the headers, and tried out the latest source code - all to no avail
[05:41] <Crescendo> I just installed a DVD-RW drive - how do I get it to show up in my burning software?  I have a feeling that the drivers for it were not installed.  How would I got about installing them?
[05:41] <wsjunior> i would like gnome to show an icon of my data partition at the desktop. how to do that? im able to mount it but i cant see the icon at the desktop like when i plug a pendrive for instance..
[05:41] <IB-> the latest version of XCHAT, not the one in ubuntu resp, duh..
[05:41] <snoops> oh gosh no idea sorry dmitr1
[05:41] <snoops> never used truecrypt before
[05:41] <snoops> it seems 2.6.15-25 broke a few things.. etc
[05:41] <IB-> i wanna install xchat 2.6.4
[05:42] <porkpie> hi,  I am trying to install ubuntu server on a compaq DL 360.  I boot from CD and the install runs fine until it gets to testing the hardware.  I then get the message cannot find cdrom do you want to install a driver
[05:42] <maltron_> SurfnKid: I went to the control panels and tried to do stuff there, but no good
[05:42] <ardchoille> IB-: oh, ok.. as far as I am concerned, the apps in the repos *are* the latest versions, since I don't use apps which are not in the repos. Probably why I've never had any problems with Ubuntu :P
[05:43] <IB-> dunno, but i want the latest :)
[05:43] <dmitr1> snoops: ok thanks!
[05:43] <dmitr1> is anyone here a truecrypt head?
[05:43] <need_help> Hi
[05:44] <need_help> How do I tune XawTV for UK channels? I'm using Pinnacle PCTV Rave
[05:44] <contarc> hey.  would you say that 3ddesktop is fairly stable for regular use at this stage?
[05:45] <need_help> Hello?
[05:45] <cheatersrealm> what package do I need to install to make ubuntu give me a graphical login?
[05:45] <SurfnKid> maltron, whats lspci show for your audio card
[05:45] <Crescendo> cheatersrealm, ubuntu-desktop, I think.
[05:46] <shachaf_> cheatersrealm: Do you want just the login screen, or the desktop environment too?
[05:46] <regeya> wow, xawtv, hardk0re
[05:46] <need_help> ?
[05:46] <cheatersrealm> I want just the login screen
[05:46] <TBUHP666> hello could someone help me?
[05:47] <need_help> How do I tune XawTV - on a Pinnacle PCTV RAVE? (for UK Channels)
[05:47] <shachaf_> chetersrealm: Well, you could install gdm, kdm, or xdm.
[05:47] <TBUHP666> I am at login window and my graphic's are bad i cannot even see them, how do i fix it?
[05:47] <cheatersrealm> shachaf_: what is default?
[05:47] <umTTumT> hi
[05:47] <umTTumT> !ping
[05:47] <ubotu> ping is - I would do an action but I can't -
[05:47] <shachaf_> cheatersrealm: GDM is for GNOME, KDM is for KDE, XDM is plain X.
[05:47] <jsimmons> how long does fsck take on a 200gb drive?
[05:47] <dmeger> hey everyone, got a total newb takin over from here, go easy on him, had to setup IRC and everyone for him, :P
[05:48] <shachaf_> cheatersrealm: I like GDM, even though I don't use GNOME/KDE.
[05:48] <regeya> !tell need_help about ask
[05:48] <cheatersrealm> how do I get it to use xdm at startup?
[05:48] <need_help> ? I havent asked to ask a question!
[05:49] <shachaf_> cheatersrealm: It should be enabled automatically when you install it.
[05:49] <darkowl> guys it worked !!!
[05:49] <dmeger> I have an AC97 sound card, and I was able to get sound in a game, but not when I try to play a file
[05:49] <cheatersrealm> shachaf_: and if it isn't?
[05:49] <shachaf_> cheatersrealm: Is it in /etc/rc*.d/S* ?
[05:49] <darkowl> My ATI card is working !!!
[05:49] <nasosub> is there an application to recover deleted files in linux?
[05:49] <Crescendo> I just installed a DVD-RW drive - how do I get it to show up in my burning software?  I have a feeling that the drivers for it were not installed.  How would I got about installing them?
[05:49] <SonicChao> !ati > darkowl
[05:49] <need_help> How do I tune XawTV?
[05:49] <SonicChao> darkowl: read ubotu's message
[05:49] <darkowl> SonicChao: ITS WORKING !
[05:50] <SonicChao> O
[05:50] <SonicChao> lol
[05:50] <need_help> How do I tune XawTV?
[05:50] <darkowl> Thank you all for helping me !
[05:50] <SonicChao> darkowl: was reading quick, didn't see
[05:50] <SurfnKid> darkowl, got it
[05:50] <SonicChao> sorry
[05:50] <SurfnKid> darkowl, glad its up and configured right :D
[05:50] <dmeger> Anyone have any suggestions on AC97 sound issues?
[05:50] <pontino> ciao
[05:50] <darkowl> Thank you !
[05:50] <pontino> hi all
[05:50] <SonicChao> nasosub: Once you delete a file in Linux, it's gone
[05:51] <webben> as far as i can work out, there used to be an option to set secure_path for sudo in the sudoers file ... and not require a recompile(!). Where is the correct forum to whine loudly to all who will listen that this is no longer the case?
[05:51] <SurfnKid> darkowl, i guess it does work on easyubuntu, just to check what did you use? for further advie
[05:51] <nasosub> hmmmm thats bad:D:D
[05:51] <dr4g> Hey all... BAck again..
[05:51] <dr4g> rambo3: alive ?
[05:51] <dr4g> Snow_Shelter: alive ?
[05:51] <SonicChao> nasosub: Why, what do you need to recover?
[05:52] <nasosub> some ebooks but if they are gone .. i will download them again
[05:52] <nasosub> thank you
[05:52] <darkowl> SurfnKid: It doesnt work on easyubuntu I have tryed that before...I was following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:52] <darkowl> It works
[05:52] <need_help> How do you tune XawTV?
[05:52] <SonicChao> nasosub: I thought it was a system file, if it's just EBooks, redownload 'em
[05:52] <need_help> !xaw
[05:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about xaw
[05:52] <nasosub> yeap !!! thank god we have broadband
[05:52] <need_help> !xawtv
[05:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about xawtv
[05:53] <SurfnKid> darkowl, oh ok cool, so whats  fglrxinfo  return
[05:53] <dr4g> Anyone ever came accross the Grub error 18 thing?
[05:53] <dr4g> -
[05:53] <need_help> How do you tune XawTV?
[05:53] <SonicChao> !anyone
[05:53] <dmeger> Does anyone know how to get an AC97 sound card working in Ubuntu?
[05:53] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:53] <RyanTMulligan> Hey.... when you are installing Ubuntu and you get to a "Boot:" prompt what should you type to install it?
[05:53] <need_help> Enter
[05:54] <darkowl> yes
[05:54] <RyanTMulligan> hmm ok
[05:54] <kbrooks> RyanTMulligan: UBUNTU 6.06 cd?
[05:54] <SurfnKid> darkowl, whats fglrxinfo return?
[05:54] <Snake> dmeger: I thought that worked out of the box (if not... it should, thats like the sound EVERYONE has...)
[05:54] <echeese> Woo
[05:54] <darkowl> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[05:54] <darkowl> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[05:54] <darkowl> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON X800 XL Generic
[05:54] <darkowl> OpenGL version string: 2.0.5814 (8.25.18)
[05:54] <echeese> got my cds a minute ago
[05:54] <SurfnKid> Snake, yea mine works out of the box
[05:54] <reiki> a little help... I am on a new install on a new machine. Reusing PATA drive from old system. This drive is now on same IDE controller with cd, so slower. I can move drive to the OTHER IDE controller but I think I'll need to edit GRUB... right?
[05:54] <need_help> How do you tune XawTV?
[05:54] <SurfnKid> darkowl, great its what i got,
[05:54] <SonicChao> !flood > darkowl
[05:54] <darkowl> !flood
[05:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:54] <SurfnKid> darkowl,  hehe oops should have told ya about flooding
[05:55] <dmeger> It was working when I was palying a tank game of some kind..but when I went to play a sound clip nothing happened
[05:55] <SurfnKid> now we have to kick ya out
[05:55] <SurfnKid> :P
[05:55] <SurfnKid> jk
[05:55] <SonicChao> SurfnKid: lol, should have. ;)
[05:55] <dr4g> If i have nothing on my HDD, i can go ahead and install ubuntu, without needing to setup a partition on /boot
[05:55] <need_help> How do you tune XawTV?
[05:55] <padi> hi all
[05:55] <SonicChao> !hi
[05:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about hi
[05:55] <webben> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/50797 : is this the correct place to complain loudly about something in dapper ?
[05:55] <SonicChao> !hello
[05:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about hello
[05:55] <dr4g> SonicChao: ?
[05:55] <RyanTMulligan> kbrooks: no I'm doing a net boot following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[05:55] <webben> or is that just for edgy
[05:55] <SonicChao> Why won't anyone add that?
[05:55] <SurfnKid> SonicChao, hehe that would be unfair
[05:55] <dr4g> If i have nothing on my HDD, i can go ahead and install ubuntu, without needing to setup a partition on /boot
[05:55] <dr4g> -
[05:55] <need_help> How do you tune XawTV?!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
[05:55] <SonicChao> I put a message that said "Don't say hi, just ask you're question."
[05:56] <SurfnKid> SonicChao, poor guy is jumping happy, got his card goin
[05:56] <SonicChao> !patience
[05:56] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:56] <padi> problem: printing under ubuntu dreary dapper: using localhost:631 I can't add a printer, neither my username nor the root user work when asked for login on localhost!
[05:56] <need_help> How do you tune XawTV?
[05:56] <Snake> -.-
[05:56] <need_help> -.- what
[05:56] <dr4g> I love ubuntu
[05:56] <need_help> same
[05:56] <SonicChao> padi: Dreary Dapper? Dapper Drake...
[05:56] <need_help> but How do you tune XawTV?
[05:56] <dr4g> I can go on IRC while installing it on my HDD :D
[05:56] <SonicChao> need_help: STOP repeating it!
[05:56] <SonicChao> need_help: No one knows!
[05:56] <Snake> lol
[05:56] <Quz> quick question from a noob: when installing ubuntu, is the partitioning easy? like does it do it all by itself, or is it manual? and is it a GUI or console when installing?
[05:56] <kbrooks> dr4g: but it'll be slower :)
[05:56] <eric_> how can i join the #easyubuntu using xchat
[05:56] <need_help> I wouldnt have to repeat it if someone will answer
[05:57] <Snake> need_help: if someone knew, they would answer.
[05:57] <dr4g> kbrooks: i have time to kill :)
[05:57] <need_help> What else is there than XawTV then
[05:57] <SurfnKid> exactly
[05:57] <Shizboom> there is a gui for partitioning
[05:57] <SonicChao> need_help: Problem. No one knows. If someone knew, they'd answer
[05:57] <shachaf_> eric_: /join #easyubuntu
[05:57] <Snake> need_help: MythTV?
[05:57] <need_help> XawTV is crap if you cant tune it
[05:57] <Snake> Freevo?
[05:57] <need_help> k
[05:57] <eric_> gui for partitioning is Gparted
[05:57] <padi> SonicChao: exactly, 6.06
[05:57] <SonicChao> need_help: Post to the forums.
[05:57] <eric_> sudo apt-get install gparted in the terminal
[05:57] <darkowl> !xgl
[05:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:57] <need_help> Where can I get MythTV?
[05:58] <Snake> need_help: have you bothered looking at the xawtv site?
[05:58] <Snake> need_help: repos
[05:58] <need_help> _
[05:58] <SurfnKid> darkowl, hahaha you are right on the dot installing XGL
[05:58] <need_help> MythTV.org?
[05:58] <SurfnKid> darkowl, im doin that as we speak too
[05:58] <Snake> need_help: No you can get mythtv with sudo apt-get install mythv
[05:58] <Snake> !mythtv
[05:58] <darkowl> SurfnKid: what is xgl ?
[05:58] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[05:58] <PMantis> After upgrading to Dapper, my laptop is *SLOW*, (keystrokes are behind, VoIP can't be used)... *unless* I wiggle the mouse constantly, then processing continues as normal. Ideas??
[05:58] <need_help> E: Couldn't find package mythtv
[05:58] <Snake> brb
[05:58] <need_help> _
[05:59] <eric_> Shizboom, did you get what you needed
[05:59] <kbrooks> need_help: read the link:
[05:59] <kbrooks> !mythtv
[05:59] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[05:59] <need_help> I AM!
[06:00] <rambo3> !freevo
[06:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about freevo
[06:00] <SurfnKid> darkowl, oh i thought you knew, its a composite manager, for true desktop switching with wobbly effects. it rocks,  Have you seen the Novell Flash demo? its a must for us graphic rendering fanatics to watch
[06:00] <cheatersrealm> what's the auto config tool for xorg's x11 server .conf file?
[06:00] <SurfnKid> darkowl, well xgl and compiz are two different things but they work together to bring 3D desktop appearance
[06:01] <darkowl> SurfnKid: whats the use of it ?
[06:01] <rambo3> start dpkg-reconfigure and but some have object on enter key, it goes aout
[06:01] <darkowl> It only takes up memory...
[06:01] <kbrooks> darkowl: eye candy only takes up memory
[06:01] <need_help> Cant find MythTV - that liks is a guide to recording tv shows - _
[06:01] <Snake> need_help: also http://linux.bytesex.org/xawtv/.... if you want to use xawtv
[06:01] <need_help> link*
[06:01] <need_help> k
[06:01] <rambo3> need_help, how about freevo
[06:02] <need_help> freevo?
[06:02] <shachaf_> darkowl: It's useless, other than the Expos-style window zooming.
[06:02] <SurfnKid> darkowl, its for advanced users who have a lot of things in their 3D minds and need a desktop that will merge with it to be more productive, IMHO
[06:02] <darkowl> I don't understand whats the use of xgl ?
[06:02] <need_help> !freevo
[06:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about freevo
[06:02] <whyami> need_help: did you edit the sources.list before you tried apt-get install mythtv?
[06:02] <darkowl> aha OK
[06:02] <need_help> no
[06:02] <kbrooks> darkowl: eye candy
[06:02] <hareem> i cant seem to strat my dhcp server
[06:02] <hareem> need help
[06:02] <snoops> darkowl it's an open gl rendered server layer for xorg.. basically uses your 3d graphics card to render the desktop
[06:02] <SurfnKid> ok people stop it with XGL you're discouraging me
[06:02] <shachaf_> darkowl: I used it for a while, then switched to wmii3 (then Ion3) instead.
[06:02] <rambo3> need_help, http://freevo.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html its the same thing
[06:02] <need_help> whyami need_help: did you edit the sources.list before you tried apt-get install mythtv?  >> How?
[06:02] <shachaf_> darkowl: Efficiency over eye-candy.
[06:02] <snoops> SurfnKid how's the install going?
[06:03] <whyami> need_help: then you aren't following the directions to install mythtv. That's phase 1 step 1 of the instructions: http://www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html from the link ubotu gave you.
[06:03] <SurfnKid> snoops, configuring the servers section in gdm.conf
[06:03] <snoops> k
[06:03] <SurfnKid> :)
[06:03] <shachaf_> SurfnKid: Discouraging you? Why?
[06:03] <need_help> http://www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html - Why couldn't anyone link me there in the 1st plac?e
[06:03] <Crescendo> I just installed a DVD-RW drive - how do I get it to show up in my burning software?  I have a feeling that the drivers for it were not installed.  How would I got about installing them?
[06:03] <Snake> Cuz he cant get it
[06:03] <Snake> jahahahaha
[06:03] <Snake> need_help: becuase your smarter than all of. Duh.
[06:03] <whyami> need_help: it was the very first link from what ubotu gave you. That's where I got it.
[06:03] <Snake> all of us**
[06:04] <shachaf_> SurfnKid: What's the problem with Xgl?
[06:04] <SurfnKid> shachaf_, cuz XGL rocks
[06:04] <shachaf_> SurfnKid: I mean, why isn't it working?
[06:04] <SurfnKid> shachaf_, none thats my point,e veryone thinks it sucks
[06:04] <shachaf_> SurfnKid: Is 3D acceleration working?
[06:04] <reiki> a little help... I am on a new install on a new machine. Reusing PATA drive from old system. This drive is now on same IDE controller with cd, so slower. I can move drive to the OTHER IDE controller but I think I'll need to edit GRUB... right?
[06:04] <SurfnKid> shachaf_, i think it rocks
[06:04] <Snake> Whats wrong with XGL??? I love that thing
[06:04] <SurfnKid> shachaf_, not yet
[06:04] <SurfnKid> Snake, word!
[06:04] <webben> is launchpad the place to report bugs in ubuntu dapper?
[06:04] <need_help> ubotu linked me to http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[06:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about linked me to http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[06:04] <shachaf_> SurfnKid: I used it for a while, then switched to wmii3 adn then to Ion3. Efficiency over eye-candy!
[06:04] <Snake> webben: yes
[06:05] <SurfnKid> tho i havent gotten it all setup yet, but the flash from the novell site defintely got me sold
[06:05] <Snake> webben: be sure to put in the correct area
[06:05] <hareem> how can i restart my dhcp server
[06:05] <SurfnKid> shachaf_, ah i have to read up on those, are they just as good or smoother than xgl?
[06:05] <webben> Snake: looking at a connected complaint, how do i tell if it's in the correct area or not? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/50797
[06:05] <Snake> hareem: sudo dhclient?
[06:05] <whyami> need_help: yes and did you read the first sentence?
[06:05] <need_help> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux
[06:05] <shachaf_> SurfnKid: They aren't eye-candy at all.
[06:06] <need_help> ANyway Im trying Freevo
[06:06] <shachaf_> SurfnKid: They're a replacement for Metacity/GNOME.
[06:06] <shachaf_> SurfnKid: No eye-candy what-so-ever.
[06:06] <shachaf_> SurfnKid: :-)
[06:06] <Snake> need_help: Did you see the damn link I sent you for the xawtv site? They have a whole FAQ written up.
[06:06] <SurfnKid> ah
[06:06] <Crescendo> I just installed a DVD-RW drive - how do I get it to show up in my burning software?  I have a feeling that the drivers for it were not installed.  How would I got about installing them?
[06:06] <jsimmons> i beiter have a defective motherboard and/or hard drive, or said components simply aren't compatible with any version of Linux
[06:06] <jsimmons> beiter=either
[06:06] <Snake> webben: that looks fine
[06:06] <need_help> Snake please stfu - Im busy trying Freevo
[06:07] <webben> Snake: thanks :)
[06:07] <padi> no one in here using PRINTING and UBUNTU?
[06:07] <Snake> You lucky I don't have ops. I'm going to leave it at that.
[06:07] <timmmmmmmmmm> hi guys
[06:08] <eric_> howdy
[06:08] <ardchoille> ok, can we all please be respectful?
[06:08] <Crescendo> Does anyone know how to make my DVD-RW drive work?
[06:08] <eric_> what's wrong with the dvd-rw drive
[06:08] <timmmmmmmmmm> can someone help me? i want to change file permissions but i have no idea how it works in the terminal
[06:08] <keithg> Hello, I am having trouble with installing the nVidia drivers.  I have followed the directions off of the wiki guide, and I have done this multiple times on breezy.  I can't seem to get them working on Dapper.
[06:08] <padi> cups tells me: authentification failed
[06:08] <kbrooks> !COC
[06:08] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[06:08] <Crescendo> I just installed a DVD-RW drive - how do I get it to show up in my burning software?  I have a feeling that the drivers for it were not installed.  How would I got about installing them?
[06:08] <Snake> timmmmmmmmmm: man chmod is a good place to start :)
[06:08] <timmmmmmmmmm> and as far as i know, it doesnt work in the ususal file browser, right?
[06:08] <padi> this must be a bad joke!!!!!
[06:09] <timmmmmmmmmm> ok ill try it, thanks
[06:09] <kbrooks> Snake: erm, no t benefical for him
[06:09] <padi> what kind of distribution is this?
[06:09] <timmmmmmmmmm> ubuntu 6.06
[06:09] <timmmmmmmmmm> gnome
[06:09] <Snake> kbrooks: Why wouldn't a manual be benificial.
[06:09] <Snake> o.o
[06:09] <slow> guys i've tried to install realplayer
[06:09] <padi> this was a rhetorical question
[06:09] <jsimmons> because it would be hopelessly outdated before it was finished
[06:09] <Snake> Lol
[06:10] <crogue5> padi: what you trying to do ?
[06:10] <need_help> How do I install mmpython?
[06:10] <ardchoille> timmmmmmmmmm: what file permissions are you wanting to change? and is it a system file or user file?
[06:10] <whyami> padi are you trying to access CUPS through the web interface? I recall this was disabled by default for security reasons. Easy to turn back on in the CUPS config file if I recall...
[06:10] <Crescendo> Hrm, Ubuntu's rebooting, it's taking five minutes on "Mounting root file system..."
[06:10] <slow> but it gives me an error
[06:10] <timmmmmmmmmm> so can someone tell me how to access the file browser with root permissions?
[06:10] <kaot> padi: you got cupsys started?  point a browser at localhost:631, play around a bit.  been a while since I messed with printing but I remember that being relatively painless
[06:10] <Crescendo> Why?
[06:10] <need_help> How do I install mmpython?
[06:11] <mhb> hello everyone
[06:11] <Snake> Hi
[06:11] <slow> the's a xlibs that it could install...xlibs
[06:11] <need_help> How do I install mmpython?
[06:11] <riddlebox> anyone have asterisk running in dapper?
[06:11] <sambrista> timmmmmmmm: type: sudo nautilus in a terminal
[06:11] <timmmmmmmmmm> ok thanks
[06:11] <Snake> need_help: please wait for the last time you asked to atleast scroll off the screen.
[06:11] <need_help> It did
[06:11] <Snake> According to whose screen ;)
[06:11] <need_help> Mine?
[06:11] <[Ex0r] > lol you must have a very very short monitor
[06:12] <ardchoille> timmmmmmmmmm: sudo nautilus will have the root instance of nautilus take over your user desktop. you can do sudo nautilus --no-desktop --browser
[06:12] <crogue5> yeah lol 4 lines
[06:12] <Crescendo> Ubuntu's STILL trying to mount the root filesystem.
[06:12] <need_help> no i am doing more than 1 screen so its not maximised
[06:12] <need_help> in fact its quite small
[06:12] <Crescendo> Is this a sign of a failing HDD?
[06:12] <timmmmmmmmmm> doesnt work
[06:12] <jsimmons> crescendo not necessarioly
[06:12] <need_help> Crescendo: maybe a faulty install>
[06:12] <need_help> ?
[06:12] <padi> kaot: then it has changed, you can't finish adding a printer because no login works! neither the one of the user nor root
[06:12] <ardchoille> timmmmmmmmmm: what doesn't work?
[06:12] <keithg> Could anyone help me out with the nVidia drivers in Dapper?  I have succesful installed them in Breezy, but I can't seem to get them working under Dapper.
[06:13] <slow> what can i do
[06:13] <need_help> How do I install mmpython?
[06:13] <Crescendo> The install's fine, as far as I know.  Would a faulty install of an application do this?
[06:13] <slow> i need xlibs library
[06:13] <Snake> !xlibs
[06:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about xlibs
[06:13] <Snake> grrr
[06:13] <Crescendo> THere it goes...
[06:13] <Snake> !x
[06:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about !x
[06:13] <Crescendo> Now hanging on loading hardware drivers.
[06:13] <Snake> .....I hate you ubotu
[06:13] <whyami> padi: are you trying to access CUPS through the web interface?
[06:13] <Crescendo> That tell you anything?
[06:13] <kaot> padi: hm.  local or network printer?
[06:13] <finalbeta> Anyone got flashfxp to run under linux? Or got a descend ftp client? Needs to support sites that are "natted". Prefferably a site manager
[06:14] <Crescendo> And still hung  on hardware drivers...
[06:14] <finalbeta> !ftp client
[06:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about ftp client
[06:14] <padi> whyami: sure
[06:14] <Snake> finalbeta: gftp
[06:14] <Crescendo> Waiting for it.  I remember last boot two things failed, as well.
[06:14] <jsimmons> crescendo is this a new install?
[06:14] <padi> kaot: network printer, but the login is on LOCALHOST
[06:14] <finalbeta> Snake, thnx will try
[06:14] <whyami> padi: are you able to access at all with http://localhost:631?
[06:14] <Crescendo> No, old install of Ubuntu.
[06:14] <need_help> How do I install mmpython?
[06:14] <padi> whyami: yes
[06:14] <Crescendo> Not OLD.  But, it's been running fine.
[06:15] <Crescendo> I installed some apps, shut down, installed a DVD-RW drive, and now this.
[06:15] <jsimmons> same thing happened to me this morning - installed it alst weekend, and went back to it today and it wouldn't boot
[06:15] <Crescendo> It IS hanging on loading hardware drivers, and mounting root file system.
[06:15] <Crescendo> It boots, but it takes 15 minutes.
[06:15] <Crescendo> ~_~
[06:15] <Crescendo> Still loading hardware drivers now.
[06:16] <kaot> padi: this sounds like one of those problems that once you fix it you're gonna thump yerself in the head for missing it the first time around :\
[06:16] <Foobal> dmesg shows some errors or alike?
[06:16] <padi> kaot: whyami:
[06:16] <padi> 401 Unauthorized
[06:16] <padi> Enter your username and password or the root username and password to access this page.
[06:16] <Crescendo> Alright, it's booted.
[06:16] <Crescendo> Hardware driver load failed, and PCMCIA failed.
[06:16] <slow> so a program that works like realplayer?
[06:16] <Crescendo> What's the cause of this?
[06:17] <Crescendo> I'm guessing it's the DVD-RW drive.
[06:17] <padi> kaot, this is bs, sorry, but I did these steps on adding a printer MANY times in other distros using cups it ALWAYS worked
[06:17] <Crescendo> How do I fix this?
[06:17] <jsimmons> i think you're going to have to reinstall
[06:18] <ultrakorne> i have broken the "sudo" and my user.. i cannot execute any command as root
[06:18] <jsimmons> mandrake did that to me once
[06:18] <Crescendo> Reinstall Ubuntu?
[06:18] <jsimmons> yeah
[06:18] <fire> anyone know anything about fixing problems with DSDT
[06:18] <Crescendo> Not an option.
[06:18] <Foobal> Crescendo: dmesg|less and check the errors/weird lines
[06:18] <Ropechoborra> I want to delete a directory full of files.. in graphic mode i cant cause im not root what can i do?
[06:18] <fire> I am having problems booting up.. I get ACPI: Looking for DSDT... not found!
[06:19] <Snake> !info python-dev
[06:19] <ubotu> python-dev: Header files and a static library for Python (default). In repository main, is optional. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 48 kB
[06:19] <padi> cups 1.2.0
[06:19] <kaot> hey padi
[06:20] <kaot> in the main cups page, do you see the italic bit below all the function buttons?
[06:20] <padi> kaot, what
[06:20] <padi> wait
[06:20] <Ropechoborra> How can i delete a directory full of files in the terminal???
[06:20] <kaot> well, mine says "Administrative commands are disabled in the web interface for security reasons."
[06:20] <Crescendo> Cannot allocate EISA,,,, what?  I don't have any EISA slots.
[06:20] <sztanpet> Ropechoborra rm -rf
[06:20] <Ropechoborra> ty
[06:20] <manu_> rm -rf (namedir)
[06:20] <kaot> have to use silly gnome front end.
[06:20] <kaot> :P
[06:21] <gatekeeper> hi Snake you said yesterday I was missing a link or something???
[06:21] <enyc> this channel is getting a bit busy!!
[06:21] <padi> kaot, yes here too
[06:21] <Crescendo> "Drive 0 didn't accept speed setting. Oh, well."  LMAO.
[06:21] <kaot> padi: whelp, I guess you gotta do it that way, ya?
[06:21] <fire> :( so no one has seen this problem.. I have been reading stuff all over the internet but nothing seems to work yet.. guess ill keep at it..
[06:21] <finalbeta> Snake, doesn't seem to have an option to support sites that have non routable IP's
[06:21] <kaot> padi: or else re-enable it, however that works
[06:21] <webben> i want to remove or at least change this sudo path-crippling setting in the Ubuntu package. I've downloaded the source. Is there any guide to building with a slightly different configuration option?
[06:22] <snoops> SurfnKid I'm keen to see what you think about it?
[06:22] <webben> (i mean building from the Ubuntu source)
[06:22] <Crescendo> So, I'm dmesging, and not seeing TOO much of interest.
[06:22] <padi> that's probably the problem if one is used to a way and... yes I'll try it
[06:22] <Snake> finalbeta: Ah, i dont know anything about those :( I just seen you were looking for a ftp client :) Sorry man
[06:22] <Crescendo> HDC, lost interrupt.
[06:22] <SurfnKid> snoops, just about to rebootzz
[06:22] <kaot> padi: thumping yer head yet?  ;)
[06:22] <J_P> hi all
[06:22] <Crescendo> HDC status is busy.
[06:22] <Crescendo> O_o
[06:22] <padi> kaot: I have no System/Administration *g
[06:22] <Crescendo> So... what's the problem here?
[06:23] <kaot> padi: I'm in fluxbox or i'd check it myself
[06:23] <nomike> hi
[06:23] <Crescendo> Failed opcode:  0xa1
[06:23] <padi> kaot: no this is not my fault, I don't read everything everytime
[06:23] <kaot> padi: check taht readme apparently you can re-enable via web interface
[06:23] <padi> ah it's on top level
[06:23] <kaot> Crescendo: that sounds bad.  my hdd did that when the controller started failing
[06:23] <[RiNG] > sorry this channel isn't for mee :P
[06:23] <nomike> how do I switch to another user in X(fce4)?
[06:23] <Crescendo> kaot: I haven't had problems until I installed this DVD-RW drive?
[06:24] <kaot> Crescendo: oooh.  check your jumpers?
[06:24] <Crescendo> And it's HDC, which is reading as the DVD RW drive.
[06:24] <Crescendo> Hrm, good idea.
[06:24] <Crescendo> =D
[06:24] <jbwiv> anyone running amarok 1.4.1 on dapper?
[06:24] <Foobal> Crescendo: check the wires.. that htey are plugged properly etc.. that sounds kinda bad
[06:26] <snoops> yep jbwiv
[06:26] <snoops> it's awesome
[06:26] <webben> does anyone have experience the configure options of existing packages?
[06:26] <tailsfan> I need help again :_(
[06:27] <say_no_2_windowz> is it just me or are the repos down?
[06:27] <J_P> hey all, I instal googleearth in dapper, but menu is not created, why not ?
[06:27] <Mewshi> hi
[06:27] <Mewshi> how do i get sound to work with flash?
[06:28] <tailsfan> Ubuntu was dialing-up while it was booting up, Is teher anyway to stop this
[06:28] <regeya> why didn't anyone tell me about quod libet a long time ago (rhetorical question, chill)
[06:28] <ardchoille> regeya: lol
[06:28] <thiago> how can i do to install gcc, make, and the include files?
[06:28] <mikearthur> Is it safe to mount /var/ as noexec with ubuntu?
[06:28] <Subhuman> thiago, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[06:28] <ardchoille> thiago: sudo apt-get install build essential
[06:28] <regeya> tailsfan, if you've set up dialup to be on demand, I'm not sure if there is. :-(  if you figure a way, do share :-)
[06:29] <J_P> I install GoogleEarth, how I do for create the menu in Aplication->somewhere ?
[06:29] <thiago> Subhuman, ardchoille thanks ;)
[06:29] <ardchoille> darn forgot the "-" again
[06:29] <say_no_2_windowz> grrrrrr
[06:29] <thiago> ok ;)
[06:29] <ardchoille> thiago: You're welcome :)
[06:29] <thiago> ;) thanks men
[06:29] <CrazyMonkey> Gnome is frozen and i need to restart it, what would be the command to do it?
[06:29] <Subhuman> thiago, might be a women for all you know :D
[06:29] <sdk> CrazyMonkey: ctrl+alt+backspace?
[06:30] <thiago> ;)
[06:30] <barktpolar> Does it have to do with wvdial?
[06:30] <barktpolar> my dial-up problem
[06:30] <CrazyMonkey> sdk Thanks, didnt knew this one :)
[06:30] <Crescendo> Oh yeah, ripped the DVD-RW drive out, and it boots fine.
[06:30] <sdk> n/p :)
[06:30] <Crescendo> Speedy as ever.
[06:31] <Crescendo> Put it in a windows machine, and it booted up perfect, and recognized the drive.
[06:31] <Crescendo> O_o
[06:32] <ardchoille> Crescendo: yeah, Windows recognises and runs lots of things..  viruses..  trojans.. worms..
[06:33] <jbwiv> snoops: did you have to do anything special to get it working?
[06:33] <jbwiv> snoops: I installed the dep package via apt, but when I start it up it starts ok but then just spins...
[06:33] <Crescendo> ardchoille, I know.  ~_~  Just bugs me that it crashed my Ubuntu machine...
[06:33] <Crescendo> And then runs fine on windows.
[06:33] <Crescendo> Pisses me off.
[06:33] <Crescendo> >=[
[06:33] <ardchoille> Crescendo: understandable
[06:34] <ardchoille> Crescendo: can you take the drive back for a refund/exchange?
[06:34] <webben> Can anyone explain the point of adding users to a sudoers group so that they no longer have to type a password. What's the advantage of that over just using the root account?
[06:34] <snoops> jbwiv spins?
[06:34] <Subhuman> webben, itz security
[06:34] <jbwiv> snoops: hangs
[06:35] <darkowl> I have a new problem
[06:35] <jbwiv> snoops: i'm running it from Gnome though...
[06:35] <snoops> you followed the install guide from amarok.kde.org?
[06:35] <snoops> yeah so am I jbwiv
[06:35] <webben> Subhuman: what does it secure in that case?
[06:35] <darkowl> I installed Alacarte Menu Editor and removed some programs and I cant get them back
[06:35] <darkowl> Please help
[06:35] <jbwiv> snoops: hmm...no, didn't see that. Let me check
[06:35] <finalbeta> How can I connect to a Natted FTP server from linux? (in windows I needed to use: Site uses not routable IP (flashfxp) )
[06:35] <Subhuman> webben, if somone tries to hack into a unix system an account they KNOW will exist is root, in ubuntu the password is so long it's too hard to crack
[06:35] <Crescendo> ardchoille, Nah, a friend lent it to me so I can burn this DVD image.
[06:35] <jbwiv> snoops: just used apt ;-)
[06:35] <jbwiv> snoops: did you compile from source?
[06:36] <Subhuman> webben, so it means that they have to know a user in the admin group, which is less likely..
[06:36] <ardchoille> webben: without needing a password for sudo, someone can just break into the user account and run "sudo rm -rf /". it's difficult to break into a root account which is disabled.
[06:36] <webben> Subhuman: i see
[06:36] <snoops> jbwiv no no I I grabbed the package from this repository
[06:36] <snoops> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[06:36] <snoops> if you go to that, it mentions the repository in question
[06:37] <webben> ardchoille: that's an argument for having a password for sudo ... i'm trying to work out what's the point when you don't require a password
[06:37] <darkowl> I installed Alacarte Menu Editor and removed some programs and I cant get them back
[06:37] <darkowl> Please help
[06:37] <jbwiv> snoops: yeah, I added the repository and the gpg key
[06:37] <snoops> I had amarok 1.4.0a before mind you, so it was just an upgrade for me, mostly
[06:37] <jbwiv> snoops: ah.
[06:37] <webben> (the reason i'm interested is this may also allow the same users to get around this silly path business -- but it seems to me to carry a hefty security penalty)
[06:37] <padi> kaot: ping
[06:37] <jbwiv> snoops: damn it. I've uninstalled and reinstalled...no luck
[06:38] <barktpolar> darkowl, have you tried to add the programs back into their regualr spots
[06:38] <barktpolar> as in make newentries
[06:38] <snoops> jbwiv I would ask that you've installed all the required kde libs.. but apt handles that
[06:39] <SurfnKid> agggggghhhhhhhhhhh
[06:39] <SurfnKid> this 3D thing is getting me dizzy already
[06:39] <jbwiv> snoops: yup...I'm at a loss
[06:39] <SurfnKid> :D
[06:39] <barktpolar> Hey Surfnkid
[06:39] <SurfnKid> snoops: worked
[06:39] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> how do i specify a path for update-alternatives --config java?
[06:39] <jbwiv> snoops: what's the last message you get on the console if you run it from cmdline?
[06:40] <snoops> umm, not on my ubuntu box at the moment.. I could jump on it and check for you, if you want
[06:40] <darkowl> barktpolar: i removed the pointer from a program and I cant get it back
[06:40] <SurfnKid> well.. after breaking my bcmwl5 driver and having to remove the ieee80211softmac and reinserting the ndiswrapper into the core sure
[06:40] <snoops> SurfnKid cool dude.. try ctrl+alt + page down
[06:40] <snoops> then take finger off page down and press left or right to choose desktop
[06:40] <SurfnKid> snoops: funny, says novell hehe
[06:40] <Crescendo> What is the package "csh" ?
[06:40] <jbwiv> snoops: http://pastebin.ca/82515 <- my output
[06:40] <snoops> ctrl+alt + pagedown shouldn't display novell
[06:40] <ardchoille> Crescendo: it's a shell.. like bash and zsh
[06:41] <ardchoille> !info csh
[06:41] <ubotu> csh: Shell with C-like syntax, standard login shell on BSD systems. In repository universe, is optional. Version 20050313-1 (dapper), package size 233 kB, installed size 384 kB
[06:41] <polpak> Crescendo: it's a shell, like bash.. only less cool. It's older though so some things use it
[06:41] <SurfnKid> sweet
[06:41] <barktpolar> Try seeing if there installed in the add/remove programs area
[06:41] <SurfnKid> now im a happy person, and be even happier when i get that other cpu to max out this baby
[06:41] <Crescendo> Alright, I was compiling a mud, and noted that it couldn't find /bin/csh , so I apt-got it.
[06:41] <Crescendo> =D
[06:41] <breadmachine> hello all does anyone here use wineX and Cedega?
[06:41] <Crescendo> Lmao @ apt-got it.
[06:41] <snoops> amd64 jbwiv?
[06:42] <SurfnKid> wow, it doesnt even consume any cpu, just the graphic card does the work
[06:42] <Raito> Crescendo: is your 'mud' the same 'mud' I am thinking about?
[06:42] <SurfnKid> nice
[06:42] <barktpolar> !info alsa
[06:42] <ubotu> Package alsa does not exist in dapper
[06:42] <darkowl> I installed Alacarte Menu Editor and removed some programs and I cant get them back
[06:42] <darkowl> Please help
[06:42] <Crescendo> mud as in MUD, SW:FotE.
[06:42] <SurfnKid> omg my screen is bending, XGL is some nasty sh%%
[06:42] <jbwiv> snoops: do you know where amaroK stores its sqlite database? I'm noticing an error there
[06:42] <snoops> I'm using the mysql db jbwiv
[06:42] <breadmachine> guess not
[06:42] <SurfnKid> i think im gonna throw up
[06:43] <barktpolar> Is Gnome PPP a good application to use
[06:43] <snoops> makes amarok MUCH faster
[06:43] <breadmachine> !info WineX
[06:43] <ubotu> Package WineX does not exist in dapper
[06:43] <barktpolar> !info Wine
[06:43] <ubotu> Package Wine does not exist in dapper
[06:43] <breadmachine> carp
[06:43] <polpak> breadmachine: go to winehq.org
[06:43] <hakanw> what's the command to check the hostname for a given ip?
[06:43] <ardchoille> darkowl: There are some good gnome folks in ##gnome. Try asking for Juhaz
[06:43] <polpak> breadmachine: they have a repository for ubuntu
[06:43] <jbwiv> snoops: can you change that from the command line ?
[06:43] <Subhuman> hakanw, nslookup
[06:43] <SurfnKid> brb
[06:43] <hakanw> Subhuman: thanks
[06:43] <Mewshi> how do i get sound to work with flash?
[06:43] <Raito> Crescendo: never had any muds on ubuntu, *goes to the ubuntu package search*
[06:44] <polpak> Raito: most muds aren't open source
[06:44] <hakanw> man, I just discovered the auth.log file and it's exciting to see how many people try to hack my server
[06:44] <Raito> hmmm
[06:44] <hakanw> with lame ssh attempts
[06:44] <Crescendo> Raito, I had to download source.
[06:44] <polpak> Raito: but you can get more restrictive licenses from other sites and DL mud servers
[06:44] <breadmachine> polpak: well, i bought it and got the package, it came with cedega and winex, but im kinda new to linux and cant figure out how to install cedega to use it
[06:44] <Bassetts> where can i find a usb phone that works with ubuntu and skype?
[06:44] <Raito> Crescendo: you said apt-got >_< err int he end you compiled from source?
[06:45] <dicrapio> is there something like yakuake for gnome?
[06:45] <breadmachine> polpak: the documentation is actually barebones
[06:45] <crashzor> is there a way to load a new xorg config whitout restarting xorg ?
[06:45] <polpak> breadmachine: the package should be a .deb file
[06:45] <fyrestrtr> crashzor: no.
[06:45] <polpak> breadmachine: if it is then you can just sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[06:45] <breadmachine> polpak: it was actually a tar.gz file
[06:45] <Crescendo> I apt-got csh, so the precompiled app would run...  and it won't compile, so I'm still using the precompile, Raito
[06:45] <crashzor> fyrestrtr, dam the i need to get of irc to get my nvidia drivers running :P
[06:45] <hakanw> Subhuman: I just get ** server can't find 80.130.232.220.in-addr.arpa: NXDOMAIN  ... is that the standard error when it fails?
[06:45] <polpak> breadmachine: if you have a transgaming account you can download a deb file package of cedega
[06:46] <fyrestrtr> crashzor: what irc client do you use?
[06:46] <polpak> breadmachine: but for vanilla wine, it's free and you can get it from winehq.org
[06:46] <Raito> oh
[06:46] <crashzor> fyrestrtr, xchat runs in xorg ;)
[06:46] <fyrestrtr> crashzor: irssi > *
[06:46] <breadmachine> polpak: oooh, even better, i actually know what to do with those
[06:46] <breadmachine> polpak: thanks
[06:46] <crashzor> fyrestrtr, i know ;)
[06:47] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: xorg -config ?
[06:47] <vladanian> Is the dapper update server down?
[06:48] <polpak> god I love the adblock extension for firefox
[06:48] <ardchoille> polpak: indeed :)
[06:49] <SurfnKid> ok someone help me with XGL
[06:49] <SurfnKid> i had some shortcuts
[06:49] <quz> installing ubuntu in a few minutes, wish me luck :)
[06:49] <ardchoille> quz: good luck :)
[06:49] <SurfnKid> F9 thru F12 on 8 different workspaces, now those keys are for totally different commands, what'd they do its confusing
[06:50] <fyrestrtr> quz: you won't need it :)
[06:50] <saxin> quz, you will make it :)
[06:50] <Crescendo> What do I need to do to make sure my firewall isn't blocking a port...?
[06:50] <quz> lets hope so, be back in xchat soon :)
[06:50] <ardchoille> quz: which CD are you installig from? Desktop? Alternate?
[06:50] <darkowl> !alsa
[06:50] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:50] <fyrestrtr> Crescendo: check /var/log/messages
[06:50] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> Crescendo: which firewall?
[06:51] <power1> hey all, Is there any way to easily recover from a quick format on a drive performed by xp boot cd?
[06:51] <Crescendo> VieLGuS-KuTaS, whatever dapper has by default.
[06:51] <Raito> dapper has a firewall??
[06:51] <Crescendo> Dunno.
[06:51] <ardchoille> Raito: yes.. iptables
[06:51] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> Crescendo: it doesnt have a firewall
[06:51] <Crescendo> Just nmapped myself, and it isn't showing my ports?
[06:51] <SurfnKid> fayawaall
[06:51] <Raito> oh really *goes and wiki's it*
[06:51] <Crescendo> The one I opened, atleast.
[06:51] <ApocalypticOni> i just installed ubuntu, but the mouse is pretty jerkey, ubdating only twice a second. my mouse is old, but it worked fine on my winxp box. is there a way to fix this or do i just need more ram?
[06:52] <xvbanevx> how much ram we talkin about?
[06:52] <PFA> when evolution opens from Opera it crashes on startup; has anyone else had htis probelm and how do i fix it
[06:52] <polpak> !xgl
[06:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:52] <fyrestrtr> ApocalypticOni: you can adjust the speed in xorg.conf
[06:52] <ApocalypticOni> 256
[06:52] <polpak> SurfnKid: ^^ what ubotu said
[06:52] <SurfnKid> polpak, i got XGL going
[06:52] <xvbanevx> 256 is fine, just need to tune it
[06:52] <SurfnKid> polpak, just the keys i need to get used to
[06:53] <Crescendo> Yeah, I think iptables is blocking the port I need.
[06:53] <ApocalypticOni> and how do i do that?
[06:53] <Raito> wiki says that on a ubuntu desktop install iptables allows all traffic
[06:53] <padi> what is wrong, when I printed a page using cups and it says, job completed successfully but there comes nothing out at the printer?
[06:53] <fyrestrtr> padi: wrong drivers?
[06:53] <xvbanevx> xorg.conf
[06:53] <SurfnKid> nevermind i got the XGL dance going with CTRL ALT
[06:53] <SurfnKid> heh
[06:54] <ApocalypticOni> forgive me, but im a noob
[06:54] <padi> fyrestrtr: hm, maybe -> foomatic for color laserjet 1500
[06:54] <ApocalypticOni> how do i access that?
[06:54] <xvbanevx> try a terminal window
[06:55] <hakanw> ssh allowing users to login without a key means the password is sent as plaintext, right?
[06:55] <ApocalypticOni> ok
[06:55] <fyrestrtr> hakanw: no, it means that there is a key installed at the server and the client.
[06:55] <kbrooks> hakanw: no. the password is secured still
[06:56] <Crescendo> make -s swr - BREAK -  o/11.o - BREAK -  Assembler messages: - BREAK -  FATAL: can't create o/11.o: No such file or directory - BREAK -  make[1] : *** [o/11.o]  Error 1 - BREAK -  make: *** [all]  Error 2
[06:56] <Crescendo> What the hell.
[06:56] <padi> fyrestrtr:  foo2oak but that should work, it worked under debian perfectly
[06:56] <hakanw> kbrooks: how though?
[06:56] <power1> hey all, Is there any way to easily recover from a quick format on a drive performed by xp boot cd?
[06:57] <fyrestrtr> 'easily' is relative.
[06:57] <hakanw> kbrooks: before you're logged in, your commands are as good as telnet commands no?
[06:57] <Basilio> how do i create new username as log in
[06:57] <kbrooks> hakanw: encryption. thats the first s in ssh
[06:57] <hakanw> well, I thought that it was encrypted once you were logged in (or if you're using public/private keys, even before)
[06:57] <Crescendo> HAHA.  I fixed that by create an `o` directory.
[06:57] <fyrestrtr> hakanw: no, its encrypted as soon as you get the 'username:' prompt.
[06:58] <hakanw> cool, I'd be curious to know how that works.
[06:58] <hakanw> is it generating a one-time public/private key pair or something like that?
[06:58] <fyrestrtr> hakanw: you can read up on it, its not exactly a secret :)
[06:58] <kbrooks> hakanw: no...lol
[06:58] <hakanw> :)
[06:59] <hakanw> ok, gonna look it up.  thanks for the info
[06:59] <fyrestrtr> hakanw: start at wikipedia
[06:59] <kbrooks> hakanw: search for ssh
[07:00] <fyrestrtr> are there any *external* tv tuner devices that are compatible with linux?
[07:00] <snoops> SurfnKid
[07:00] <snoops> open gset-compiz
[07:00] <snoops> click shortcuts
[07:00] <padi> why is this FUCKING printing always the BIGGEST mess under linux? WHY!!?? SINCE YEARS!! cups only did it's job good under debian, now I'm stuck again in ubuntu. wtf, the driver's right and the device-settings too, permissions also. ARGH
[07:00] <DBO> !language
[07:00] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:00] <padi> yeah, I'm gome
[07:00] <snoops> then plugins.. from there you can see what's assigned to what
[07:00] <fyrestrtr> padi: no need to cruse.
[07:01] <fyrestrtr> padi: I have never had a problem with printing in linux, and have been using linux for quite a while.
[07:01] <finalbeta> How can I connect to a Natted FTP server from linux? (in windows I needed to use: Site uses not routable IP (flashfxp) )
[07:02] <Garbageman> hello
[07:03] <fyrestrtr> finalbeta: eh? what is the ip address of the ftp server and what is the ip address of your machine?
[07:03] <faddat> I just ran sudo /etc/cron.daily/prelink..... how long should this take?
[07:03] <Crescendo> usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lz
[07:03] <fyrestrtr> faddat: depends on a lot of factors, and why did you run it manually?
[07:03] <Crescendo> What's -lz?
[07:03] <fyrestrtr> Crescendo: what are you trying to do?:
[07:04] <Crescendo> compile an application.
[07:04] <faddat> fyrestrtr:  I'm following the directions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74197
[07:04] <faddat> Is that a bad thing?
[07:04] <faddat> I'm doing the "first prelink" I guess.  The doc does say that this one will take the longest.
[07:04] <finalbeta> fyrestrtr, both a local IP adress.
[07:05] <hakanw> Crescendo: that means it can't find the library libz
[07:05] <hakanw> or z.dll or whatever, depending which system you're using
[07:05] <Crescendo> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lz
[07:05] <Crescendo> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[07:05] <Crescendo> make[1] : *** [swr]  Error 1
[07:05] <Crescendo> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[07:05] <Crescendo> Whoops.
[07:05] <Crescendo> Sorry.
[07:05] <Crescendo> But that's what it says.
[07:05] <padi> fyrestrtr: It can't be it, that this takes me a DAY, sorry
[07:05] <Crescendo> How to install that library?
[07:05] <padi> fyrestrtr: the Driver IS IS IS right! fo2oak!!
[07:06] <padi> why is there no error?
[07:06] <hakanw> Crescendo: http://www.google.com/search?q=libz&sourceid=mozilla2&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[07:06] <Crescendo> hakanw, Gkthxbai.
[07:06] <fyrestrtr> padi: don't know, all I can tell you -- I have no problems with cups and printing -- and I have tried every kind of printer you can imagine.
[07:06] <faddat> fyrestrtr: it just finished
[07:06] <hakanw> Crescendo: ?
[07:07] <Random_Transit> hey, there...is there anyone from ubuntu canada here??
[07:07] <fyrestrtr> Crescendo: what are you trying to build?
[07:07] <hakanw> I suppose it's zlib's name
[07:07] <fyrestrtr> faddat: yeah, this takes a while :) it should be okay now.
[07:07] <padi> fyrestrtr: I only want it on ONE printer: HP Color Laserjet 1500, and IT WORKED UNDER DEBIAN, I did NO miracles!
[07:07] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> whats a ls command to only show symbolic links?
[07:08] <Crescendo> fyrestrtr, a MUD, particularly SW:FotE.
[07:09] <fyrestrtr> padi: you have the correct ppd file?
[07:09] <Breezy-CA> Hi all ... I am looking for a fool-proof (because I have been a fool from time to time) upgrade procedure from Breezy to Dapper. When I went to Breezy, I didn't make sure that ubuntu-desktop was installed (something I'd done had taken it away, apparently), and lived without Ubuntu for a day or so until, with help from people here, I fixed my errors. Is there a quick and easy guide to avoiding such n00bie errors when I move to Dapp
[07:09] <Breezy-CA> er (as I would like to this weekend)?
[07:09] <kyncani> VieLGuS-KuTaS: use find
[07:10] <padi> fyrestrtr: it lists the jobs I try under completed jobs. the printer makes no sound, fyrestrtr I chosed the ppd from the list, I can also download the one from linuxprinting, but how bad can ubuntu do to not use the original one?
[07:10] <fyrestrtr> Breezy-CA: should be easy with the upgrade wiki entry.
[07:10] <fyrestrtr> !Upgrade > Breezy-CA
[07:10] <Breezy-CA> t/y fyrestrtr
[07:10] <faddat> fyrestartr:  I'm following this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189192 do you have any other reccomendations?
[07:10] <hakanw> afaik, a ssh user can't choose which port to connect to sshd on, without the admin opening up that for sshd, right?
[07:10] <fyrestrtr> faddat: no, prelinking is pretty much straight forward, just don't forget the apt-get entry.
[07:10] <duelboot> !Upgrade > duelboot
[07:11] <fyrestrtr> hakanw: yes.
[07:11] <hakanw> this guy is trying to get into ssh on a bunch of ports, with a user I don't have :)
[07:11] <faddat> Where I add that stuff to the end of my apt.conf?
[07:11] <fyrestrtr> hakanw: just like anything else, you have to connect to the port on which the server is listening -- otherwise, you'll be timing out because you'll be saying hello -- when no one is home.
[07:11] <faddat> Just did :)
[07:11] <hakanw> fyrestrtr: right
[07:12] <fyrestrtr> hakanw: first thing I do, is switch ssh to another port since every clown tries port 22
[07:12] <hakanw> fyrestrtr: in my log file, it's still sshd reporting that someone tries to login though, even if the port is one I'm not using
[07:12] <padi> fyrestrtr: downloaded the ppd from linuxprinting and used that one instead, the problem persists
[07:12] <mikearthur> How can I get Apache to listen on Port 443?
[07:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Breezy-CA: I would suggest that if you have the abitilty to back up to a hard drive or dvd that you do that before a full upgrade.  IT is always a good idea anyhow
[07:12] <hakanw> sshd[22669] : Failed password for invalid user artwork from XXX port 51721 ssh2
[07:12] <fyrestrtr> hakanw: do you have more than one ip address assigned to the box?
[07:12] <hakanw> fyrestrtr: nope
[07:13] <fyrestrtr> hakanw: that is probably the client port, not the server port.
[07:13] <hakanw> fyrestrtr: oh
[07:13] <kaot> hakanw: note "*from* xxx port blah"
[07:13] <Breezy-CA> jack_sparrow ... I wish I could do that ... short of buying a new case with an extra drive bay or an external HD, though, I don't have enough room anywhere for /home
[07:13] <fyrestrtr> hakanw: install bfd to take care of these types of 'attacks'.
[07:13] <hakanw> fyrestrtr: you have a good point abotu changing port.  unfortunately my users are newbies (even more than me) so I don't want to make their life too hard
[07:14] <kaot> hakanw: if I was you I'd just move sshd to a nonstandard port
[07:14] <hakanw> kaot: see above
[07:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Breezy-CA: Do you have enough room to make another partition?
[07:14] <kaot> hakanw: well you should probably educate them
[07:14] <kaot> hakanw: it's easy enough in any client to choose the dest port
[07:14] <Breezy-CA> Jack_Sparrow, yes ... but not as large as the partition that /home is on
[07:15] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[07:15] <Breezy-CA> More to the point, not as large as /home itself
[07:15] <hakanw> kaot: is it possible to do it so that their local ssh will by default try another port (so they don't have to specify it every time) ?
[07:15] <Turms> updating edgy, among dependancies of xorg i find libgl1-mesa-glx but it is not available, where is it?
[07:15] <fyrestrtr> mikearthur: you need to install apache-ssl
[07:15] <Crescendo> What's the application used to convert from RPM to DEB?
[07:15] <Breezy-CA> alien
[07:15] <hakanw> afaik, they're all using the command line
[07:15] <fyrestrtr> Crescendo: alien
[07:15] <mikearthur> fyrestrtr: not with apache2
[07:15] <enyc> Crescendo: 'alien' but you sthould try to find native package before trying that method
[07:16] <kaot> hakanw: they on linux?
[07:16] <hakanw> kaot: OS X
[07:16] <Crescendo> enyc, haven't been able to find deb of zlib
[07:16] <padi> fyrestrtr: it's a network printer under 192.169.123.253:9100 so I use socket:// ... as I always did
[07:16] <enyc> Turms: please discuss edgy  on  #ubuntu+1  and not on this channel
[07:16] <kaot> hakanw: ah.  how many are there?  you could always set them up with aliases or scripts
[07:16] <Crescendo> Then again, I really don't know where to look... google doesn't seem to be too helpful.
[07:16] <enyc> Crescendo: thats certianly is there somewhere.... erm...
[07:16] <CrazyMonkey|Zzz> im using dual boot XP/Ubuntu on my girlfriend laptop and id like to change the auto-boot to windows instead of ubuntu... how can i do this?
[07:16] <Turms> enyc: thanks!
[07:17] <Crescendo> CrazyMonkey, edit the grub.conf file
[07:17] <cantona> how can I mount jffs2 image?
[07:17] <hakanw> kaot: not that many, so far there are only like 3 of them
[07:17] <enyc> Crescendo: use  http://packages.ubuntu.com to check...
[07:17] <Crescendo> enyc, thanks.
[07:17] <CrazyMonkey|Zzz> Crescendo where is it?
[07:17] <kaot> hakanw: easy enough, just walk them through setting up an alias or script they can use that'll contain the settings they need
[07:17] <MTecknology> I'm using Ubuntu 6.06, when I use copy or cut, I can paste until I close the program I took it from. Once I close that program I can't paste, how can I change that?
[07:17] <hakanw> kaot: yeah, good idea.  thanks
[07:17] <enyc> Crescendo: I think you want 'zlib1g' or 'zlib1g-dev' as needed
[07:18] <fyrestrtr> padi: ermm, no you should use UNIX Printing (LPD) and just type the ip address, leave the queue blank.
[07:18] <gatekeeper> MTecknology: that's the way linux apps seem to work
[07:18] <sedrake> How can I play a wmv3 file in ubuntu?
[07:18] <fyrestrtr> !mp3 > sedrake
[07:18] <Crescendo> enyc, thanks, that was the next question.
[07:18] <enyc> sedrake: see RestrictedFormats wiki page
[07:18] <Crescendo> =)
[07:18] <MTecknology> gatekeeper, is there anything I can do?
[07:18] <Breezy-CA> T/y again fyrestrtr ... reading the wiki now
[07:18] <sedrake> enyc, I did and I installed w32codecs but I cannot still see it?
[07:19] <fyrestrtr> Breezy-CA: yw, ask in here if you have any questions. fwiw, if you have ubuntu-desktop installed, upgrade is painless.
[07:19] <Crescendo> Hrm, it's saying that it is already the newest version.
[07:19] <Crescendo> Trying make again
[07:19] <enyc> Crescendo: well
[07:19] <enyc> Crescendo: listen
[07:19] <enyc> Crescendo: if you are trying to build something.... you need the -dev headers
[07:19] <padi> fyrestrtr: nothing happening
[07:19] <enyc> Crescendo: e.g. zlib1g-dev
[07:19] <gatekeeper> MTecknology: not that I am aware of other than keeping the app open untill you have pasted, not really researched it but have heard comments about this elsewhere
[07:19] <TokenBad> ok I just tried to mount an iso I downloaded...and also tried to burn it...neither will work...the sfv checks out ok...could I be missing something?
[07:19] <Boelcke> sedrake, after reading the RestrictedFormats page, you might find help also at easyubuntu.freecontrib.org.
[07:20] <enyc> Crescendo: te get the .h header files the program needs te build agaoinst zlib
[07:20] <fyrestrtr> padi: are you typing in the port?
[07:20] <Crescendo> Ooooh.
[07:20] <Crescendo> Done.
[07:20] <Crescendo> =D
[07:20] <fyrestrtr> TokenBad: in ubuntu?
[07:20] <padi> fyrestrtr: sure
[07:20] <Crescendo> Thank you so much, enyc .
[07:20] <fyrestrtr> padi: don't
[07:20] <TokenBad> fyrestrtr, yes
[07:20] <padi> socket: ..
[07:20] <bur[n] er> anyone know if multisync can sync evolution to a Windows Mobile 5 phone?
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> TokenBad: please explain 'neither will work'
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> padi: don't type *socket*
[07:21] <enyc> Crescendo: erm... note that this may help you:  "sudo apt-get build-dep <packagename>"
[07:21] <padi> fyrestrtr: if i leave it out: Network host '192.168.123.253' is busy, down, or unreachable;
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> padi: hrmm, that's weird. I just installed a network printer like that, and it was a HP (hp based)
[07:21] <enyc> Crescendo: that will install the debendancies for building a package.... which can be wery useful.... install the build-deps for something similar to that you wish to compile yourself for example
[07:22] <Crescendo> I think that makes sense.   I thought apt-get automatically installs the dependencies?
[07:22] <TokenBad> fyrestrtr, should I post error on pastebin?
[07:22] <enyc> Crescendo: or... for example... if you wished to compile your own qemu... you could 'sudo apt-get build-dep qemu' to get the build-dependancies for qemu ubuntu package.
[07:23] <enyc> Crescendo: erm... it installs the RUNTIME depenadcies for _packages_ you install
[07:23] <enyc> Crescendo: the BUILD-depenacies and SOURCE packages are another matter
[07:23] <Crescendo> Ah, okay. That makes sense now.
[07:23] <Crescendo> =)
[07:23] <TokenBad> fyrestrtr, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17556
[07:23] <dr4g> My ubuntu CD has been installing flawlessly.. Now every time i install, it crashes at 51 or 53%
[07:23] <dr4g> Help...? lol
[07:24] <TokenBad> and in k3b it just says unusable
[07:24] <enyc> Crescendo: in many many cases..... there is one source package... that whin-built creates 2 or more binary packages...
[07:24] <padi> fyrestrtr: well the colorlaserjet1500 IS special indeed, but I know that the official driver works, I've been using it for a long time
[07:24] <elkbuntu> dr4g, burn another
[07:24] <enyc> Crescendo: e.g.  zlib source code results in (at least)  zlib AND zlib-dev  packages
[07:24] <enyc> Crescendo: zlib1g and zlib1g-dev  even
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> TokenBad: what command do you type when you get that?
[07:25] <Luke> are the repos down or something?
[07:25] <gatekeeper> dr4g: when I experienced a similar problem it was down to a bad Hard Disk, I would check that you have no hardware issues
[07:25] <enyc> Crescendo:  if you .... "apt-cache show zlib1g"  you will see the dependancies to have the "zlib1g" package installed....
[07:25] <dr4g> gatekeeper: how can i guarentee no hardware issues ?
[07:26] <dr4g> or test.
[07:26] <Crescendo> Awesome, that's a big help.
[07:26] <fyrestrtr> dr4g: buy new hardware :)
[07:26] <dr4g> fyr... lol
[07:26] <dr4g> I'll try a new HDD
[07:26] <Crescendo> As a newb to Linux, that's helpful.
[07:26] <dr4g> bbiab
[07:26] <enyc> Crescendo: if you  "apt-cache showsrc zlib1g" you will see the apprepritae source-package and BUILD-DEPENANCIES
[07:26] <gatekeeper> dr4g: if your hard disk is formatted you could run badblocks
[07:27] <enyc> bah dr4g gone
[07:27] <Crescendo> And now that I've been through all that...  nohup.out reports... "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[07:27] <Crescendo> ~_~
[07:28] <enyc> Crescendo: something you are trying to build is not working ;-)
[07:28] <quz> wow, amazing, easiest installer ever!
[07:28] <enyc> Crescendo: if you told me what you were trying to build I might be able to help more....
[07:28] <enyc> quz: ??
[07:28] <gatekeeper> fyrestrtr: you killed him off before I got chance to tell him about a couple of tools :-)
[07:28] <TokenBad> fyrestrtr, sudo mount file.iso /media/cdrom0/ -t iso9660 -o loop
[07:28] <quz> from live cd i was able to browse web, listen to music all while installing ubuntu.
[07:28] <quz> beats SuSE :)
[07:29] <fyrestrtr> TokenBad: hrmm, I think the options need to be before the source
[07:29] <Crescendo> enyc, I'm building a MUD called SW:FotE - Star Wars: Fall of the Empire.
[07:29] <TokenBad> fyrestrtr, thats how the website said to do it...that I was on
[07:29] <enyc> Crescendo: maybe it doesnt compile properly on the architecture / compiler you have
[07:29] <fyrestrtr> TokenBad: don't trust everything you read on the web.
[07:29] <enyc> Crescendo: eg.g it might have problems with GCC-4.0 in particular
[07:30] <Crescendo> It does have a makefile... let me look in there.
[07:30] <TokenBad> its on the ubuntuguide website
[07:30] <Crescendo> See what it's asking for as a compiler.
[07:30] <fyrestrtr> try sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop file.iso /media/cdrom0
[07:30] <quz> how do you set root pass? =\
[07:30] <fyrestrtr> !root
[07:30] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:30] <Crescendo> enyc, first line in makefile is "CC      = gcc"
[07:30] <quz> ty
[07:31] <Crescendo> What are my other GCC options?
[07:31] <Crescendo> And it did go all the way though the compile.
[07:31] <webben> if i want to safely distinguish a deb for sudo which i've patched ... how would i  do that? Would renaming the deb produced by buildpkg be enough?
[07:31] <Tonren> I hope I remembered to backup everything important...
[07:31] <Tonren> So nervous
[07:31] <TokenBad> fyrestrtr, the way I had it..the second cd mounted...just not the first one..
[07:31] <TokenBad> but will try i
[07:31] <TokenBad> it even
[07:31] <webben> Tonren: how come you're having to replace 64 with 32?
[07:32] <mish4> how do i install open office; sudo apt-get open....
[07:32] <Tonren> webben: There's no support for 64bit.  wine isn't native.  Flash isn't native.  My touchpad wasn't working right.  It just wasn't worth the trouble.
[07:32] <enyc> Crescendo: yes....
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> mish4: yes
[07:32] <webben> Tonren: fair enough, hope you fair better with 32
[07:32] <mish4> but what name do i use
[07:32] <mish4> openoffice didnt work
[07:32] <TokenBad> fyrestrtr, get same msg
[07:32] <Tonren> webben: Me too.  thanks.  do you use 64?
[07:32] <enyc> Crescendo: and if you wanted to try sometihng else... you could install the gcc-3.4 packages or olhder versions and change that line in the makefile
[07:33] <webben> Tonren: no ... no opportunity too either, just wondered what was wrong
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> TokenBad: sounds like a bad .iso file
[07:33] <Tonren> webben: Yeah.  It's just too new; no one has programmed anyting for it yet.
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> mish4: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
[07:33] <kristian> When Im looking at a film clips on youtube.com, I can see film, but no sound :S Anyone know what's wrong here?
[07:33] <Tonren> webben: I don't really support 64bit in general; it just means that everything is fatter now, like the rest of America.  I didn't realize that when I bought my laptop, of course.
[07:33] <mish4> thanks
[07:33] <unstablesob> kristian: does sound work in other apps?
[07:33] <TokenBad> fyrestrtr, downloaded from 2 different sources...and the sfv checks ok...but both cases its just the first iso..like it has some kind of protection I guess
[07:33] <Tonren> Man... gparted is taking FOREVER to further shrink my XP NTFS partition.
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> TokenBad: what is sfv?
[07:34] <kristian> unstablesob: yes
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> Tonren: did you defrag it first?
[07:34] <webben> Tonren: mostly, software just bloats to fill vacant processing power and storage space.
[07:34] <snoops> resizing partitions is a very dodgy business anyway Tonren
[07:34] <Axeluno> Hallo friends!
[07:34] <TokenBad> its a file to verify that files downloaded are right...like checks size and stuff or md5 checksums
[07:34] <jrib> webben: I append ~myusername to the version, but I was going to suggest before that you just symlink ruby in /usr/local/bin
[07:34] <Tonren> fyrestrtr: Ahh, JUNK.  I forgot!  I did it when I installed the first time, but I forgot this time!
[07:35] <unstablesob> kristian: i've had the flash player bug out on me a few times where it wouldn't play sound, restarting firefox seems to help
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> Tonren: yeah, so now you have to wait. Go watch a movie. I recommend 'Blazing Saddles'
[07:35] <Ropechoborra> How to delete full directory (with files in it) ?
[07:35] <quz> Hmm, how do you change user password?
[07:35] <kristian> unstablesob: Ok, i'll try
[07:35] <enyc> Crescendo: also... there could be a problem with 64bit architecture  if the code has only been tested on 32bit etc.
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> Ropechoborra: rm -rf dirname
[07:35] <Tonren> fyrestrtr: Hahaha, go figure
[07:35] <Tonren> quz: passwd
[07:35] <TokenBad> rm -r dir
[07:35] <jrib> Ropechoborra: rm -r
[07:35] <enyc> Crescendo: (only applies on ubuntu 64bit e.g. amd64 of course{
[07:36] <Axeluno> Any users with IBM thinkpad?
[07:36] <fyrestrtr> sure.
[07:36] <jrib> quz: system > preferences > about me > change password (if you prefer gui's)
[07:36] <TokenBad> fyrestrtr, its a file to verify that files downloaded are right...like checks size and stuff or md5 checksums
[07:36] <Crescendo> enyc, I'm not on 64bit, so...
[07:36] <Crescendo> Hrm.
[07:36] <Tonren> webben: The idea of "bigger is better" should never have gotten popular in computer science.  With the exception, PERHAPS, of hard drive space.
[07:36] <fyrestrtr> TokenBad: don't know what is the deal with it then, are you sure its iso9660 ?
[07:36] <Crescendo> Looks like theres a BUNCH of logfiles being creted.
[07:36] <enyc> Crescendo: speake te mud-writer ;-)
[07:36] <Crescendo> Created.
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> Tonren: and memory, and screen sizes
[07:37] <webben> jrib: yeah -- except i like to install quite a few bits and pieces in opt, and i hate managing symlinks in /usr/local/bin, and anyway sudo certainly shouldn't be set up the way it is (IMHO) ... so i'm curious to see if i can fix it ;)
[07:37] <enyc> Crescendo: try building with gcc-2.95 or so
[07:37] <Crescendo> I sent out an email to him.
[07:37] <msinger> Hello, all - getting LANG, LANGUAGE & LC_ALL error messages after sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[07:37] <kaot> Tonren: and bandwidth
[07:37] <Axeluno> Lucky you fyrestrt... i have a t42 with a damn ATI... any suggestion to activate 3D acceleration in dapper?
[07:37] <Tonren> kaot: _maybe_.
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> Axeluno: I have ATI x300 -- acceleration + xgl works fine here.
[07:37] <unstablesob> ati + linux == :(
[07:38] <Tonren> fyrestrtr: Screen sizes, sure.  Memory?  I dunno.  we have so much memory now that software developers are spoiled
[07:38] <kristian> unstablesob: It did not seem to work..
[07:38] <oidia> how do i find a package im looking for?
[07:38] <holycow> ati + anything = tehsuck
[07:38] <enyc> Crescendo: o well hae phun ;-)
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> oidia: apt-cache search nameofpackage
[07:38] <dredhammer> yeah its a crying shame i invested in ai when i was on windoze
[07:38] <Axeluno> Sure holycow! :-(
[07:38] <jrib> webben: ah ok, good thing to learn to do too
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> oidia: or use synaptic and hit search
[07:38] <kaot> Tonren: maybe nuthin.  unless you're one of those that thinks video and audio content has no business on computers.
[07:38] <Tonren> fyrestrtr: computers are capable of processing millions of instructions per second.  Think about that: MILLIONS!  How is it that operating systems drag so much?
[07:38] <oidia> fyrestrtr: thanks
[07:38] <kaot> s/has/have/
[07:38] <oidia> fyrestrtr: its a tect install
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> Tonren: slow hard disks
[07:38] <oidia> text*
[07:38] <Tonren> fyrestrtr: And crappy code.
[07:38] <TokenBad> fyrestrtr, no...not sure its iso9660 or how to find out
[07:39] <gatekeeper> oidia: within your package manager ? or are you looking to see if a package exists?
[07:39] <Crescendo> thanks enyc , you were a great help =D
[07:39] <fyrestrtr> TokenBad: try -t auto and let moung guess it for you
[07:39] <webben> What I'm trying to do is allow admins to set the secure_path in /etc/sudoers ... does anyone know whether it would be sensible to submit such a patch to Ubuntu devs, or whether it needs to go to Debian devs or the sudo devs or what?
[07:39] <TokenBad> fyrestrtr, got different error this time..
[07:40] <padi> i don't believe this mess
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> Tonren: actually, the fastest computers (talking strict bogomips here) don't run on high clock processors. Deep Blue ran on PIIIs, I think or really slow powerpc procs.
[07:40] <kaot> someone in .nl representing nyhc?  did I just see that?
[07:40] <gnomefreak> webben: put it on launchpad.net as you would a bug
[07:40] <unstablesob> kristian: sorry, i can't really help anymore than that.
[07:40] <snoops> Tonren because it takes millions of operations to redraw every pixel and find the pixels behind the one where you just moved
[07:40] <gnomefreak> kaot: nl is netherlands
[07:40] <webben> gnomefreak: okay, if i get it working, i will, thanks :)
[07:40] <kaot> gnomefreak: yes I know.
[07:41] <kaot> that's why I was asking.
[07:41] <kaot> netherlands != NYC
[07:41] <msinger> Any suggestions for how to fix the nvidia-glx language related errors?  I've tried setting the vars in profile to no avail
[07:41] <oidia> i couldent find it, anyone know what the name of the package bitlbee is?
[07:41] <snoops> Tonren not to mention all the services running, plus everything else - talking to devices, keeping the internet on.. the list goes on
[07:41] <padi> fyrestrtr: it seems what cups tells and what it does are different things, I have a great error log under /var/log/cups/errorlog: thousands of lines CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized
[07:41] <kristian> unstablesob: Ok.
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> msinger: hrmm, don't know about it to be honest. Never ran into that, but you can try export LANG=en etc for your vars before apt-get
[07:41] <webben> hmm ... it seems to have built two debs not one ... what is the sudo-ldap package for?
[07:41] <padi> fyrestrtr: and also this: E [08/Jul/2006:19:27:29 +0200]  PID 8574 (/usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp) crashed on signal 9!
[07:41] <TokenBad> fyrestrtr, says I must specify filesystem
[07:42] <fyrestrtr> padi: nice.
[07:42] <gatekeeper> oidia: it's in universe
[07:42] <msinger> fyrestrtr, I've tried that and when I echo it shows it set
[07:42] <fyrestrtr> TokenBad: hrmm, try udf
[07:42] <Laibsch> For some reason /var/run are not mounted as tmpfs anymore.  I get an error message at startup "special device /var/run does not exist"  I moved my installation from one machine to another.  Where does that mounting of /var/run take place, not in fstab it seems.
[07:42] <oidia> gatekeeper: maby i dont have universe then :O
[07:42] <TokenBad> udf?
[07:42] <gatekeeper> oidia: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[07:42] <fyrestrtr> TokenBad: where did you download it from?
[07:42] <zOap> hellu
[07:42] <TokenBad> got it from a friend...
[07:42] <zOap> sorry.. ww
[07:43] <padi> fyrestrtr: whilst the accesslig tells the exact opposite:
[07:43] <padi> localhost - - [08/Jul/2006:19:39:45 +0200]  "POST / HTTP/1.1" 200 489 Get-Jobs successful-ok
[07:43] <padi> localhost - padi [08/Jul/2006:19:39:44 +0200]  "GET /printers/ColorLaserJet1500?which_jobs=completed HTTP/1.1
[07:43] <padi> " 200 10630 - -
[07:43] <TokenBad> and then tried from a torrent
[07:43] <padi> ah sorry
[07:43] <gatekeeper> oidia: there is a package search engine in Firefox
[07:43] <fyrestrtr> padi: that's just you accessing cups on the local machine.
[07:43] <padi> ok
[07:43] <padi> what about the permission thing?
[07:43] <webben> i see got it off apt-get show
[07:43] <solstice> hi. i got the last.fm player that segfault
[07:44] <fyrestrtr> padi: paste the relevant log at pastebin
[07:44] <padi> fyrestrtr: ok
[07:44] <webben> hmmm ... how do i replace my current sudo package with my custom one?
[07:44] <quz> !xchat
[07:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about xchat
[07:44] <jrib> webben: dpkg -i foo.deb
[07:45] <webben> jrib: ah that did work thanks
[07:45] <padi> fyrestrtr: http://pastebin.ca/82553
[07:45] <NickGarvey> how could I set a certain port so only people with the ip 192.168.2.* could view the port?
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> padi: how are you installing printers?
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> NickGarvey: use a firewall
[07:46] <kaot> NickGarvey: iptables.  or, depending on the daemon, you can configure it to allow or deny certain ip ranges.
[07:46] <padi> fyrestrtr: I did the two steps for enabling the web-interface in the manual of cups -> usr/share/doc/cupsys/README.Debian.gz
[07:46] <padi> fyrestrtr: localhost:631
[07:46] <holycow> padi, why are you doing that?
[07:46] <NickGarvey> !iptables
[07:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[07:47] <fyrestrtr> padi: *sigh* that's your problem.
[07:47] <Jack_Sparrow> NickGarvey:  Use a firewall manager like firestarter or guarddog
[07:47] <NickGarvey> firestarter it is
[07:47] <padi> WHY?
[07:47] <Laibsch> What is it that mounts /var/lock and /var/run as tmpfs?
[07:47] <holycow> padi, why not use the gnome interface? it is easier to use and does the same thing
[07:47] <solstice> http://pastebin.ca/82555
[07:47] <solstice> is there some repo for last.fm package ?
[07:47] <mikearthur> disabling the web interface was a damns tupid idea
[07:47] <solstice> it works in other distro
[07:47] <mikearthur> damn stupid
[07:47] <padi> holycow: no, it's not easier to use.
[07:47] <fyrestrtr> padi: use the system > administration > printing and see if it works. Whatever you are doing, its not working and crashing cupsd
[07:47] <holycow> padi, yes i know, a mouse and 3 clicks is hard
[07:48] <padi> holycow: ...
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> mikearthur: submit a bug about it if you don't like it.
[07:48] <kristian> !ati
[07:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:48] <kaot> mikearthur: nonsense. the wisdom and benificence of the ubuntu developers are infinte.  TRUST.
[07:48] <mikearthur> lol
[07:48] <kaot> ;\
[07:48] <mikearthur> its especially useful that it tells you to use GNOME if you don't even have X installed!
[07:49] <terry> nick RegalDrac
[07:49] <RegalDrac> hey
[07:49] <RegalDrac> i got a problem
[07:49] <kaot> Hey terry
[07:49] <kaot> :D
[07:49] <gatekeeper> solstice: I don't think so, if you have got Firefox there is a package search engine in it
[07:49] <RegalDrac> i need a video alternative to nero vision i need to convert avis to a dvd so i can watch on my dvd player
[07:49] <TokenBad> well I don't know what is up with this iso
[07:50] <holycow> disabling the web interface is probably one of the more sane decisions i've seen on this project.  regular users don't know what a web interface is and how it differs from a native gtk one, and powerusers can always turn on the web interface if they want to.
[07:50] <solstice> gatekeeper: very helpfull thnx
[07:50] <unstablesob> RegalDrac: http:///www.google.com/search?q=linux+convert+avi+to+dvd
[07:50] <padi> fyrestrtr: holycow: still not printing
[07:50] <holycow> padi, what printer is it?
[07:50] <gatekeeper> solstice: you are welcome :-)
[07:50] <RegalDrac> its not that easy
[07:50] <RegalDrac> man
[07:50] <RegalDrac> i need it to encode like a normal dvd
[07:51] <RegalDrac> like u get at the store
[07:51] <padi> holycow: hp colorlaserjet1500
[07:51] <unstablesob> RegalDrac: first result is http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=117709
[07:52] <holycow> padi, local install or networked?
[07:52] <RegalDrac> thats alot of complicated mess
[07:52] <RegalDrac> is there nothen like dvd santa
[07:52] <RegalDrac> or somethen
[07:52] <Spliffster> hi. i have removed my audio card with another (replaced a 5.1 with a stereo card). i am running dapper (ubuntu-desktop). the alsa configuration seems to think there is stil lthe old 5.1 card in the system and the volume control doesnt work anymore
[07:52] <oidia> how do i get read/write permission? chmod ...?
[07:52] <padi> holycow: network -> ipp -> socket://192.168.123.253:9100
[07:52] <RyanTMulligan> oidia: chmod u+rw filepath
[07:53] <RyanTMulligan> oidia the u stands for user
[07:53] <johnsandman> unsermake command not found # what i am missing ?
[07:53] <oidia> a, thanks
[07:53] <metrix> if I wanted to encrypt a file on my pc, what program would I apt-get to do that easily?
[07:53] <padi> holycow: maybe it's 3 clicks but that thing freezes a lot!
[07:53] <holycow> padi, its one of those with built in networking dealies?
[07:53] <CalJohn> is LTS the same as Dapper?
[07:53] <Spliffster> is there a way to reconfigure alsa without reading man pages (well ,yeah ... i am cheap!)
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> CalJohn: yes
[07:53] <CalJohn> fyrestrtr: thankyou
[07:53] <MrBrizzio> CalJohn, LTS just means that this version gets long term support
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> Spliffster: remove the alsa config files, then run the ala configurator.
[07:54] <MrBrizzio> iirc either Hoary or Warty was also an LTS
[07:54] <Spliffster> fyrestrtr: ty
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> Spliffster: stop alsa first, before you do anything else with it.
[07:54] <CalJohn> MrBrizzio: oh, I remember the whole extended support thing...heh
[07:54] <MrBrizzio> yup
[07:55] <oidia> RyanTMulligan:  unknown perrmission string oidia
[07:55] <holycow> padi, why do you haver socket:// ?  typically in the gtk interface for connection i just select hp jetdirect and just type in the ip address and leave the port alone
[07:55] <holycow> padi, that didn't work for you?
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> holycow: I told him that the first time.
[07:55] <padi> holycow: now, see here:http://wiki.openwrt.org/PrinterSharingHowto#head-6830eddb73e01f7a0b48c6030fff4e6591596112
[07:55] <MrZaius> how do you get ubuntu to NOT install nvidia drivers or X?
[07:55] <TokenBad> fyrestrtr, is there a difference between a normal filesystem of iso and say one done in raw mode?
[07:55] <oidia> whats wrong? chmod oidia rw /var/lib/bitlbee/
[07:56] <Snake[Away] > hey guys, what does this mean
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> MrZaius: do a 'server' install (type server at the boot: prompt from the desktop cd)
[07:56] <Spliffster> fyrestrtr: do u have an idea what the command for reconfiguring alsa is ?
[07:56] <padi> what doesn't work: when I do that this assistant freezes
[07:56] <Laibsch> seems like the mounting of /var/run is being done from /etc/init.d/mountvirtfs with a command "domount" but that is not to be found anywhere on the system.  where do I get it?  apt-cache search does not know about it either.
[07:56] <Snake[Away] > Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> Spliffster: if I had to guess, I would say it was dpkg-reconfigure alsa
[07:56] <Snake[Away] > This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:56] <Snake[Away] > is only available from another source
[07:56] <Snake[Away] > E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[07:56] <RyanTMulligan> oidia: u is always the current user you don't type oidia ever
[07:56] <Snake[Away] > ooops
[07:56] <holycow> padi, is this printer hosted by a print server, or are you printing directly to it over the network?  that is to say it has network server built in?
[07:56] <Snake[Away] > didnt mean to flood
[07:56] <msinger> re: locale/language errors when trying nvidia -- fixed by doing this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=159177
[07:56] <CalJohn> Spliffster: alsacond
[07:56] <padi> yes, forget that with socket
[07:56] <RyanTMulligan> oidia: "chmod u+rw /var/lib/bitlbee/" exactly
[07:56] <holycow> padi, are you sure you have the printer configured properly for the network?
[07:56] <CalJohn> Spliffster: alsaconf
[07:57] <MrZaius> fyrestrtr: I already have a half-completed debootstrap install
[07:57] <holycow> padi, if its on your own print server are you sure cups is configured to accept network connections?
[07:57] <oidia> RyanTMulligan: a, thanks ;)
[07:57] <padi> holycow: yes, absolutely
[07:57] <holycow> fyrestrtr, *nod*, it should be no problem to get this up and running
[07:57] <MrZaius> and base-config doesn't seem to be an option anymore
[07:57] <padi> holycow: I never set anything contradictory
[07:57] <Spliffster> CalJohn: nae ... no alsaconf here
[07:57] <finalbeta> I need an ftp client that can connect to natted or IP masked sites. Looking for days now.
[07:57] <padi> let's try from another machine
[07:58] <holycow> padi, you still didn't answer my previous question, is the printer on your own print server, or did you just connect it to the network via its own server?
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> finalbeta: ncftp can do it, iirc.
[07:58] <RegalDrac> is there a way to drag and drop files
[07:58] <RegalDrac> i cant figure it out
[07:58] <CalJohn> Spliffster: hmmm...I though alsaconf was a normal alsa thing...try using tab-completion to figure out what it is.  it's probably something like alsa*
[07:58] <holycow> fyrestrtr, infact, it's almost certain he hosed something by insisting on using the web interface
[07:58] <Frederick> folks kubuntu updated my kernel how do I remove the old one?
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> holycow: yeap, you should see his log output.
[07:59] <finalbeta> fyrestrtr, thnx, will try them
[07:59] <CalJohn> Frederick: you probably don't need to :)
[07:59] <padi> holycow: if it's my server or the networks server? huh?
[07:59] <fyrestrtr> holycow: pastebin.ca/82553
[07:59] <holycow> padi, that answers my question
[07:59] <fyrestrtr> lol
[07:59] <holycow> padi, you clearly don't know what your doing, i can't really offer any more help
[07:59] <ardchoille> I just did sudo crontab -e and was presented with a weird looking editor. What is this and how do I exit it?
[07:59] <ardchoille> I think it's nano.. yech!
[07:59] <fyrestrtr> TokenBad: yes, there is a difference (sorry, missed your question)
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> ardchoille: esc :q
[08:00] <Frederick> CalJohn, of course I need it takes a lot of space in hd
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> ardchoille: that means, hit esc, type : then q and hit enter.
[08:00] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: that only works in vim
[08:00] <padi> holycow: you are asking weird questions! the printer is on a server in the next room plugged via usb, the printerserver if you mean cups is on my machine
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> ardchoille: you are on nano then?
[08:00] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: yes, how do I get out of it?
[08:01] <fyrestrtr> ardchoille: oh god -- ^X I think
[08:01] <dr4g> Hi there.. I'm running the Ubuntu installer,  and i create a main partition.....which is fine
[08:01] <dr4g> I then create a SWAP partition... click next, then it says "you have no swap drive created.. would you like to create one"
[08:01] <dr4g> I click "go back" and the swap drive isnt there
[08:01] <Mewshi> what can i do with the wacom-tools package??
[08:01] <CalJohn> Frederick: hmmm...if you're really bothered find out which package you want to remove and use apt-get
[08:01] <dr4g> Its like a loop.
[08:01] <dr4g> -
[08:01] <Frederick> CalJohn, I will also have the remove grubs entries...
[08:01] <dr4g> fyre.. look up :o)
[08:01] <fyrestrtr> dr4g: you have to tell it to use it as swap.
[08:01] <CalJohn> ardchoille: ctrl+x
[08:01] <dr4g> fyr.. umm.. i did?
[08:01] <NickGarvey> with firestarter, how would I specify only IP's with 192.168.2.*?
[08:01] <dribble> hey guys -- so, i'm setting up an old box to be a server for PHP, Ruby dev and such.  Now, I'm hoping to have it serve as an extension of my current boxes -- that is, I don't want to be ftping stuff back and forth, and want the server directories to be virtually acessable.  So, would NFS be the right way to do this?
[08:01] <dr4g> I make it "priumary partition" and the FS type as linux-swap
[08:01] <CalJohn> nano is a horrible editor, but it's a reasonable default; newbies normally like it
[08:02] <MrBrizzio> jurgz, you might want to get through IRC on a non-root user
[08:02] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: yeah, I need to get out of this thing and then remove it. I hate nano
[08:02] <eucalre> sup?
[08:02] <holycow> padi, question is crystal clear, sorry i can't help more.
[08:02] <CalJohn> dribble: try ftp; you can mount and bind ftp these days
[08:02] <kaot> dribble: nfs and samba would both work.  I don't have much NFS experience though
[08:02] <Spliffster> dribble: i use NFS if i don't have to support windows on the net, cause it is faster
[08:02] <Frederick> folks kubuntu updated my kernel how do I remove the old one?
[08:03] <ardchoille> CalJohn: ctrl+x does nothing
[08:03] <RegalDrac> someone please help me
[08:03] <RegalDrac> i like ubuntu but i need to beable to make these dvds :d
[08:03] <Dial_tone> Frederick: synaptic
[08:03] <dribble> CalJohn, kaot, Spliffster  --  thanks.
[08:03] <CalJohn> ardchoille: you sure it's nano?
[08:03] <Spliffster> dribble: if you have an untrusted environment you might try to mount it with ssh
[08:03] <judah> Frederick: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[08:03] <Mewshi> what can i do with the wacom-tools package??
[08:03] <NickGarvey> with firestarter, how would I specify only IP's with 192.168.2.*???
[08:03] <elkbuntu> RegalDrac, what is stoping you make the dvds?
[08:03] <eucalre> no
[08:03] <dribble> Spliffster, it's all on a restricted subnet, purely developmental purposes.
[08:03] <judah> Frederick: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-i-want-to-remove
[08:03] <qwzybug> anyone here successfully used an airport extreme card with dapper?
[08:03] <Dial_tone> RegalDrac: what is your ?
[08:03] <Spliffster> dribble: i'd go for nfs then
[08:04] <qwzybug> I'm reading the help doc about it (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper) and it sounds kinda complicated...
[08:04] <Frederick> judah, what about grub entrie?
[08:04] <LuckyX> how to install mp3 and other video codecs?
[08:04] <Spliffster> dribble: nfs is tad simple to setup and maintain too
[08:04] <RegalDrac> elkbuntu i got a handi cam that gives me avi files, i need to make real like dvds like you get at store that will play on dvd players etc, on windows i used Nero Vision i cant figure out a way to do it on ubuntu
[08:04] <RegalDrac> only dvds iv been able to make is ones that dont work
[08:04] <fyrestrtr> ardchoille: look at the bottom of the screen, it should tell you.
[08:04] <dribble> Spliffster, thanks.  Wanted to make sure nfs would workout.
[08:04] <jrib> RegalDrac: have you taken a look at dvdauthor?  I haven't used it myself but it may be worth a look for you
[08:04] <judah> Frederick: it will take care of itself!
[08:04] <elkbuntu> RegalDrac, ok that's out of my league, i have no idea since i've never done it.
[08:04] <kaot> qwzybug: you're in for a fun ride
[08:05] <judah> Frederick: the proces runs update-grub at the end.
[08:05] <RegalDrac> jrib ill download it and see sec
[08:05] <solstice> with an athlon XP, i might use linux-k7 package or linux-686 ?
[08:05] <qwzybug> kaot: heh... should I just wait for the next release?
[08:05] <fyrestrtr> solstice: 686
[08:05] <Dial_tone> RegalDrac: http://smorgasbord.net/convert_video_linux you might want to view the page w/opera
[08:05] <padi> holycow: there is still CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized in the log, even when doing it on the Administrator page
[08:05] <fyrestrtr> k7 is for durons
[08:05] <qwzybug> also, i have a feeling I might just be SOL with the liveCD. probably need to have an actual installation
[08:05] <akira> hi, how can i see the files that take up the most space in my hard disk?
[08:05] <Frederick> wow ubuntu is REALLY a great enterprise distro
[08:05] <jrib> akira: baobab can do that for you
[08:05] <kaot> qwzybug: assuming they'll have it worked out by then...   I had success with ndiswrapper, personally.  kernel drivers hated my card.
[08:06] <Dial_tone> akira: du -s /* is a start
[08:06] <akira> jrib:what's baobab
[08:06] <RegalDrac> does dvd author have a gui
[08:06] <Dial_tone> or a find command
[08:06] <jrib> akira: a program in universe
[08:06] <RegalDrac> i installed it
[08:06] <judah> Dial_tone: i always like --max-depth=1 on du's
[08:06] <qwzybug> kaot: yikes. this help doc sounds complicated. (I have to upgrade my firmware...?)
[08:07] <jrib> akira: you can install it with synaptic, it has a nice gui
[08:07] <judah> oh but they want to see accross the disk..
[08:07] <LuckyX> how to install mp3 codecs?
[08:07] <Snake[Away] > !mp3
[08:07] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:07] <LuckyX> tnx
[08:07] <kaot> qwzybug: not exactly.  what you're doing is basically sticking a copy of the firmware where the kernel can see it
[08:07] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: Thank you :)
[08:07] <pwuertz> hi, when i use the nvidia-glx driver... when I switch from X to console I get a black screen... is this a known problem?
[08:07] <qwzybug> kaot: hmmmm. interesting. i don't think I'm leet enough for that yet...
[08:08] <qwzybug> kaot: anyway, I definitely should have a real linux partition before I try stuffs like that
[08:08] <kaot> qwzybug: yeah that's too much work to be doing with a livecd i think
[08:08] <kbrooks> qwzybug: you dont ned to be leet for the command line
[08:09] <CalJohn> Frederick: was that sarcastic?
[08:09] <padi> holycow: hm, I just now get it, you think the printer has it's own server, which is a redundant question, because I told you the model, of course it's on my own print server
[08:09] <Frederick> CalJohn, of course not
[08:09] <Spliffster> ok ... join my quizz show!!! what could possibly be the name of an alsa configuration utility ( i haven't managed to find one yet)
[08:09] <Frederick> CalJohn, I'm a proud ubuntu user :)
[08:10] <fyrestrtr> pwuertz: that might be the console itself -- maybe you can't see the prompt because of your screen resolution?
[08:10] <BHSPitMonkey> anyone else have problems with MIDI in ubuntu?
[08:10] <RegalDrac> dial i tried that
[08:10] <RegalDrac> dident work i tried what it asks :d
[08:10] <Frederick> BHSPitMonkey, look for ubuntu restricted formats
[08:10] <qwzybug> kbrooks: hey, I can use the command-line, I'm an OSX junky... I just feel better if I actually understand what I'm doing on the command line :)
[08:10] <Spliffster> Frederick: lmiux user == proud ... this is true on mostly any of them ... lol
[08:10] <CalJohn> Frederick: meh.  imo it's a not a good distro for anything much other than desktops.  thought it is very good at desktops
[08:10] <BHSPitMonkey> any MIDI-related app I try to use tells me that it can't find/use my /dev/seq or etc
[08:10] <Spliffster> s/lmiux/linux/
[08:10] <jrib> !midi
[08:10] <ubotu> Trouble playing midi files? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[08:11] <bina> hi when I type 'eject /dev/hdc' i get the error "eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument"  is there some way i can fix this without rebooting?
[08:11] <Frederick> CalJohn, If I own a company I would use ubuntu
[08:11] <bobby> can come one help me with compiing a c progam
[08:11] <BHSPitMonkey> I don't want software synth, I want my sound card's midi chip to be usable :S
[08:11] <Frederick> if I had a server oki I would use something else
[08:11] <Frederick> bobby, ?
[08:11] <jrib> bobby: how far are you?
[08:11] <RegalDrac> well bah
[08:11] <RegalDrac> :/
[08:11] <kaot> Spliffster: proud in certain contexts.   it's tough to be proud of something like that when you're sitting with your friends playing poker or something.
[08:11] <CalJohn> Frederick: why?  I don't understand.  on desktop, granted, it's probably the best all around distro, but on a server?
[08:11] <kaot> I feel like a knob, then.
[08:11] <kaot> :\
[08:12] <Spliffster> bobby: ususally: $ cd /where/the/source/is; ./configure && make && sudo make install .... or better look if there is a README or INSTALL file
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> Spliffster: have you install alsa-tools ?
[08:12] <CalJohn> Frederick: it's not especially flexible, which is something I'd want
[08:12] <kbrooks> "oh, software is BAD, let's go HARDWARE"
[08:12] <Spliffster> fyrestrtr: might not have ... checking
[08:12] <Jack_Sparrow> How do I make my printer available to my notebook connected to this machine through my router.?
[08:12] <bobby> no i made it
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> Jack_Sparrow: your printer is connected to what?
[08:12] <Frederick> kbrooks, Hardware is limited and evil
[08:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Printer is connected to this machine
[08:13] <Jack_Sparrow> lpt1
[08:13] <Trista1> does anyone know how I can setup an extended desktop on to a tv
[08:13] <Spliffster> bobby: ok ... so you need the programs like make, gcc, autoconf and the such ?
[08:13] <ircleuser> hi, i'm installing ubuntu for the first time on one of our machines which used to run redhat.  the install went just fine, but now when i try to boot, it won't because the dpt_i2o driver is loaded first and then the i2o driver tries to load and the system wont boot at that point and i drop into busybox.  i don't want the dpt_i2o driver to load and i'm trying to figure out how to disable it.  does anyone have any advice?
[08:13] <jrib> bobby: have you installed build-essential?
[08:13] <unstablesob> Tristal: are you using the nvidia driver?
[08:13] <bobby> yes
[08:13] <xuxa_> I'm also having printing challenges... I'm having difficulty getting printing working on my roommate's box (Ubuntu 5.04 Hoary Hedgehog + HP LaserJet network printer)
[08:13] <fyrestrtr> Jack_Sparrow: 'this machine' = what? Windows, Linux, etc?
[08:13] <bobby> i just dont know how to use it
[08:13] <Trista1> I have a ati 9000
[08:13] <Jack_Sparrow> notebook and this pc are connected to router
[08:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry, assumed Ubuntu
[08:13] <Jack_Sparrow> on both
[08:13] <Spliffster> bobby: check $ man gcc and also $ man make
[08:14] <ircleuser> it seems like it should be easy to disable a kernel driver, but i don't know how.
[08:14] <xuxa_> Jack_Sparrow: I think you need to have a print server (cups server) running on the machine that the printer is connected to.  (But don't take my word for it... I can't get my own printing to work!)
[08:14] <jrib> bobby: ok do you just have a text file with c code? like a helloworld.c
[08:14] <Spliffster> bobby: and make sure you have build-essentials installed first
[08:14] <bobby> yes
[08:14] <xuxa_> breadmachine: hehe, we just took a fresh loaf of wheat out of our breadmachine
[08:14] <bobby> it is installed i just checked in my package manager
[08:14] <jrib> bobby: then you just navigate to that directory in the terminal and type: gcc -o name_of_program name_of_file.c
[08:15] <breadmachine> what would be the easiest way to change my stock Ubuntu installation from GNOME to KDE, the synaptic package manager is telling me that most of the packages cant be installed
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> Jack_Sparrow: what happens if you just try to connect to it as a local printing, giving it the ip address of the machine the printer is connected to?
[08:15] <Spliffster> bobby: you need the cc or gcc program to compile a c source file
[08:15] <zool2005> hi all
[08:15] <jrib> bobby: but that's just to get you started, for more options you should read 'man gcc' as Spliffster suggested
[08:15] <dadgumit> hi all 2
[08:15] <Spliffster> bobby: check the corresponding man page
[08:15] <Jack_Sparrow> fyrestrtr: WIll check on it.  THat was the point that confused me earlier.  SOmeone was running cups server but NOT on the machine the printer was connected to, he was running it on the remote machine and not just searching for netwrork printer on the remote pc
[08:15] <breadmachine> xuxa_: cool, nice to see my bretherren accross the globe are pulling thier weight
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> breadmachine: drop to console, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop -- should take care of it.
[08:15] <xuxa_> Jack_Sparrow: I think there's a good chance that that'll work (since I think the print server is installed by default)
[08:16] <fyrestrtr> Jack_Sparrow: the server must be running on the machine that has the printer to be shared.
[08:16] <dadgumit> hate to be the blatent nub in IRC asking for help but....
[08:16] <breadmachine> thanks fyrestrtr
[08:16] <dadgumit> I am att wits end
[08:16] <ircleuser> does anyone have any advice on how to disable a kernel module?
[08:16] <Spliffster> bobby: and you might like to use the -WALL option too
[08:16] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: you are in good company
[08:16] <bobby> i did this
[08:16] <bobby> bobby@bobby-desktop:~$ gcc-o compilerworking.c
[08:16] <bobby> bash: gcc-o: command not found
[08:16] <zool2005> i'm want to install wengo (VOIP) and the command is "LD_LIBRARY_PATH. ./qtwengophone" can anyone explain what this means please?
[08:16] <kaot> holy cow it's yosemite sam
[08:16] <Tonren> ircleuser: Why not just uninstall it?
[08:16] <xuxa_> Jack_Sparrow: basically, the machine with the printer connected to it needs to know what to do with the incoming "Print something for me!" commands from the other machines
[08:16] <Spliffster> bobby: a space between gcc and "-o"
[08:16] <fyrestrtr> bobby: gcc compilerworking.c && ./a.out
[08:16] <Spliffster> bobby:  and it should wok
[08:16] <ircleuser> well, the machine won't boot because of the problem.
[08:16] <Trista1> is there any tutorials that would help me set up an extended desktop on a tv using an ati 9000
[08:16] <kbrooks> fyrestrtr: thats old
[08:16] <CalJohn> dadgumit: just go ahead and ask the question
[08:17] <kbrooks> fyrestrtr: a.out is old
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> kbrooks: as am I
[08:17] <CalJohn> dadgumit: you'll get a response that way
[08:17] <Jack_Sparrow> xuxa_: WHich is why you would run the server software there and not on the machine without the printer
[08:17] <dadgumit> caljohn, new client, configuring :)
[08:17] <dadgumit> thanks :)
[08:17] <Tonren> ircleuser: So, the new kernel update broke your bootup?
[08:17] <bobby> bobby@bobby-desktop:~$ gcc -o compilerworking.c
[08:17] <bobby> gcc: no input files
[08:17] <xuxa_> Jack_Sparrow: exactly
[08:17] <ircleuser> yeah, it's trying to load a module that i don't want it too.
[08:17] <kbrooks> bobby: remove the -o
[08:17] <Lyrasen> he... could someone point me to a fairly good and general documentation about kernel 2.6? I'm particularly interested in it's support for multi-desktop / user's operations...
[08:17] <Jack_Sparrow> xuxa_:  The guy earlier had it the opter way around
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> bobby: just try with gcc compilerworking.c
[08:17] <MrZaius> did you get disconnected there for a bit?
[08:17] <CalJohn> dadgumit: configuring what?
[08:17] <kbrooks> bobby: -o == output
[08:18] <jkanter> where can I find a sys-admin irc channel?
[08:18] <jrib> bobby: the -o let's you tell what you want the output to be called, so for example: gcc -o hello hello.c
[08:18] <Tonren> ircleuser: Why don't you just select the prior kernel on the boot menu?
[08:18] <fyrestrtr> Lyrasen: the *kernel's* support for multi-desktop?
[08:18] <dadgumit> irc client, don't usually irc on laptop
[08:18] <MrZaius> jkanter: your best bet is #*lug
[08:18] <dadgumit> trying toust make it usable
[08:18] <CalJohn> dadgumit: which client?
[08:18] <xuxa_> Jack_Sparrow: you mean this? " fyrestrtr> Jack_Sparrow: the server must be running on the machine that
[08:18] <jkanter> thanks Zaius
[08:18] <MrZaius> where are you from?
[08:18] <xuxa_>                    has the printer to be shared.
[08:18] <Spliffster> bobby: is the file to compile in the cureent directory ? give gcc the full path to your file ... next you'll need to setup your build environment
[08:18] <MrZaius> il?
[08:18] <Jack_Sparrow> xuxa_:  Is there a simple way to turn of the sharine of that printer
[08:18] <ardchoille> would putting "export EDITOR=vim" safely replace nano with vim for all editing tasks?
[08:18] <MrZaius> there's probably a chicago lug
[08:18] <jkanter> Illinois
[08:18] <Spliffster> s/cureent/current/
[08:18] <CalJohn> ardchoille: yes
[08:18] <dadgumit> k dont
[08:18] <dadgumit> done*
[08:18] <fyrestrtr> ardchoille: yeap
[08:18] <MrZaius> and there's #kclug.  it's fairly active
[08:18] <bobby> bobby@bobby-desktop:~/Desktop$ gcc h.c
[08:18] <bobby> h.c:1:2: error: invalid preprocessing directive #!
[08:18] <bobby> h.c:2:22: error: iostream.h: No such file or directory
[08:18] <bobby> h.c: In function main:
[08:18] <bobby> h.c:5: error: cout undeclared (first use in this function)
[08:18] <bobby> h.c:5: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
[08:18] <bobby> h.c:5: error: for each function it appears in.)
[08:19] <Trista1> does anyone know how to configure the xorg for an extended desktop on a tv
[08:19] <CalJohn> ardchoille: that's pretty much a cross distro thing
[08:19] <bobby> h.c:7:2: warning: no newline at end of file
[08:19] <kbrooks> ardchoille: it sets the EDITOR environment variable
[08:19] <xuxa_> Jack_Sparrow: I assume that you'll be able to do those kind of changes in the CUPS web interface
[08:19] <bobby> i got that
[08:19] <CalJohn> bobby: don't paste!!!
[08:19] <ardchoille> CalJohn, fyrestrtr : Thank you :)
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> bobby: ermm, don't paste.
[08:19] <Tonren> bobby: Please don't spam the chat
[08:19] <xuxa_> Jack_Sparrow: have you ever used that before?
[08:19] <Tonren> calc nopaste
[08:19] <Jack_Sparrow> not yet
[08:19] <jrib> bobby: umm are you writing c or c++?
[08:19] <kbrooks> ardchoille: it doesnt replace it
[08:19] <ardchoille> kbrooks: yeah, was hoping so :)
[08:19] <Lyrasen> fyresrtsrt: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XFree-Local-multi-user-HOWTO/about_bruby.html
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> bobby: you are trying to compile c++ using gcc
[08:19] <Tonren> ...
[08:19] <zool2005> LD_LIBRARY_PATH : can anyone tell me how to find it?
[08:19] <Tonren> !nopaste
[08:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about nopaste
[08:19] <Tonren> !pastebin
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> !pastebin
[08:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:19] <st_iron> hello
[08:19] <dadgumit> ok, I could not get dapper to install, many issues ACPI etc.. and none of the published fixes work (I thin it was an installer issue), I read that many had success by installing breezy and upgrading
[08:19] <bobby> o ok
[08:19] <dadgumit> so trying that
[08:19] <kbrooks> fyrestrtr: gcc != GNU C Compiler
[08:19] <dadgumit> instal successfull, but, no X
[08:20] <kbrooks> fyrestrtr: GCC == GNU Compiler Collection
[08:20] <Spliffster> bobby: ok ... gcc found the file ... now you need to do your homework and cleanup your code so it won't throw errors .... you might ask further questions and a C or gcc related room
[08:20] <dadgumit> No Screens found, manually reconfigured, nosuccess
[08:20] <Spliffster> this is #ubuntu
[08:20] <bobby> know of any?
[08:20] <Spliffster> nope
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> kbrooks: thank you for that educational comment, but generally, there is g++ for c++ compilation, that is symlinked to gcc for c++ arguments.
[08:20] <Spliffster> i'd try #C
[08:20] <VanilleBert> hi all.   I was editing a 1093x5 spreadsheet with OpenOffice.org Calc. I wanted to export it to XHTML but everything it does is filling the progressbar and than don't react. Saving to ODS, CVS and PDF works without problems.   Should I post that bug at the Ubuntu bagtracker or at OpenOffice.org? (gnarf, or both...)
[08:20] <bobby> in freenode?
[08:20] <hastesaver> I have an "Intel Chipset Integrated Graphics Device". How do I find out if drivers for it are the latest version, and is it safe to download drivers from Intel's website and install them?
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> bobby: try ##C
[08:20] <Spliffster> bobby: yes ... just a guess however
[08:21] <bobby> o ok
[08:21] <bobby> thanks for your help
[08:21] <fyrestrtr> hastesaver: are you trying to do graphics acceleration?
[08:21] <xuxa_> Anyone here using a network printer with Hoary Hedgehog?
[08:21] <dadgumit> anyone have any ideas?
[08:21] <Foobal> hastesaver: it's i810 or i9xx, and the X.org stuff is as good as it comes already
[08:21] <hastesaver> fyrestrtr, graphics acceleration is already working, but Google Earth doesn't work perfectly
[08:21] <fyrestrtr> VanilleBert: sounds like a oo bug
[08:21] <fyrestrtr> hastesaver: its beta software, expect bugs.
[08:21] <fyrestrtr> do people forget what beta means?
[08:21] <CalJohn> dadgumit: paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:21] <VanilleBert> fyrestrtr: so i post it at oo.org   thx for help
[08:21] <keiron> hi there. i have a mystery partition - sda2. can someone please recommend a tool to determine the filesystem type of the partition?
[08:21] <CalJohn> dadgumit: into a pastebin
[08:22] <zool2005> does anyone use wengo?
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> keiron: fdisk -l /dev/sda
[08:22] <CalJohn> keiron: mount
[08:22] <hastesaver> fyrestrtr, that's true, but http://earth.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=21450&topic=1149 says "Intel 82865G requires driver .3762 or later and is known to work well" -- how do I know if I have driver .3762 or later?
[08:22] <Sarek> hi
[08:22] <xuxa_> dadgumit: hrm... I don't know much about X, sorry
[08:22] <dadgumit> can't not on that machine, I am in the shell on another machine,
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> hastesaver: hrmm, you could check the output of x log file.
[08:22] <finalbeta> fyrestrtr, can't you tell me what option to enable on ncftp then? can't find it. can't connect
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> finalbeta: hrmm, let me look it up.
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> finalbeta: as I don't remember these things off hand.
[08:23] <hastesaver> Foobal, what's i810 or i9xx? I'm sorry I don't know what that means. (lspci says "0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)")
[08:23] <xuxa_> dadgumit: you don't have ssh access to that machine?
[08:23] <keiron> fyrestrtr: thanks. shows me it's an Extended partition
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> keiron: yeap, means it has some extended drives in there.
[08:23] <Foobal> hastesaver: just make sure that /etc/X11/xorg.conf lists your driver as i810 and you're set
[08:23] <TokenBad> ok I give up on this iso...
[08:23] <Okita> Anyone have experience getting amaroK to recognize an mp3 player?  By all accounts, it should do it automatically when KDE recognizes it, but nothing's really happening
[08:24] <Okita> Can I manually tell it where my mp3 player is, or what?
[08:24] <dadgumit> ssh? (sorry haven't used linux in abotu 3 years and wasn't that great then)
[08:24] <hastesaver> fyrestrtr, is that /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> hastesaver: yeap
[08:24] <dadgumit> working on getting the conf up
[08:24] <J-_> I'm not sure why I'm not getting any software updates.. someone want to help me? when i first installed the system, i had a couple system updates but that's it since then, nothing.
[08:24] <keiron> fyrestrtr: i'd better go look up what that actually means :)
[08:24] <snoops> is there anyway to get media players to support the smb:// style syntax when locating a file? Trying to watch a video over the network requires mounting, rather than just the smb://address
[08:24] <Sarek> I just did (re)installed a small server today with dapper (before it was an old debian testing). Whith debian I used laptopmode to have the harddisk spin down after a certain time. This does not seem to work in dapper now :-( the disk comes up again after about 1 minute ... any suggestions?
[08:24] <xuxa_> dadgumit: so when I'm trying to fix something on another machine that has linux installed, I connect to it with "ssh"
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> J-_: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[08:24] <J-_> breezy
[08:24] <Spliffster> ok ... the quizz show contines !!! the package "alsa-utils" says in the readme that it contains the utility "alsaconf" which is not present on my system nor is there a package named alsaconf .... another hint, any one ?
[08:25] <xuxa_> dadgumit: it allows you to log into the other machine (assuming both are connected to the local network) and do admin stuff from there
[08:25] <dadgumit> both machines have to be linux?
[08:25] <hastesaver> Foobal, right, it says  (Driver          "i810"). And why am I set? :) What does i810 mean?
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> J-_: probably no longer supported (ie, all the updates have been applied) -- try upgrading to dapper if you miss constant updates.
[08:25] <jrib> Spliffster: I believe ubuntu doesn't use alsaconf
[08:25] <dadgumit> oh ssh = terminal
[08:25] <dadgumit> ?
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: no necessarily.
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> ssh = secure shell
[08:25] <xuxa_> dadgumit: well, both machines need ssh installed (technically, one of them needs sshd)
[08:25] <Foobal> hastesaver: intel has committed their drivers to the x.org, you already have the correct up-to-date driver
[08:25] <xuxa_> dadgumit: what's your situation?
[08:25] <Spliffster> jrib: hmmm ok, do you have an idea what its replacement is ?
[08:26] <mabus> Spliffster: I think you have to run it as root, and I know when I installed it on my gentoo system it wasn't in the regular users path. So try sudo su -, and then alsaconf
[08:26] <J-_> a few weeks ago i tried upgrading to 6.06, my system went nuts (didn't have a clean breezy system when i updated to 6.06)
[08:26] <hastesaver> Foobal, ok, that's good to know. Thanks a lot.
[08:26] <Spliffster> mabus: i have searched as root, no find file ;)
[08:27] <J-_> thanks fyrestrtr
[08:27] <keiron> fyrestrtr: Is an extended partition expected with an installation of ubuntu 6.06?
[08:27] <Sarek> can I somehow see why a harddisk spins up again? so which process causes the disk to become active?
[08:27] <jrib> Spliffster: no, not really.  crimsun is the sound expert around here and I usually see him saying that, so I thought I'd save you some needless searching.  There is a wiki about sound that might help you though
[08:27] <jrib> !sound > Spliffster
[08:27] <xuxa_> Okita: I'm assuming there's a basic library that provides the mp3 player connection to Amarok.  Maybe you can figure out what's providing connectivity behind the scenes and troubleshoot from there?  Sorry I'm not more help...
[08:27] <xuxa_> dadgumit: you still there?
[08:27] <racarter> is there a repository for apt-get install mplayer?
[08:27] <Spliffster> jrib: ty for the hints .... gonna ^Z bg
[08:27] <dadgumit> here, looking at conf
[08:28] <jrib> racarter: multiverse
[08:28] <Okita> xuxa_: The docs said it doesn't go down to a very low level to avoid libraries and such, but I'm hearind from elsewhere it may just be a version issue
[08:28] <racarter> the ubuntu site says multiverse has it but I still can't find it
[08:28] <rambo3> never ever will i run automatix again, coulde have done this in 1 h
[08:28] <fyrestrtr> keiron: not generally. Windows tends to put up extended partitions.
[08:28] <xuxa_> Okita: hrm... okay... Like I said, I'm not much help.  :)
[08:28] <jrib> racarter: make sure you have dapper multiverse, not just dapper-backports multiverse
[08:28] <edubruell> i have a problem with my nforce 430 lancard
[08:28] <keiron> fyrestrtr: strange. this is a clean install of 6.06 on a brand new drive
[08:29] <hivemind> So, all in all, I think I really like Ubuntu.
[08:29] <edubruell> ifconfig says its is active
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> keiron: hrmm, strange indeed.
[08:29] <edubruell> network-admin says its active
[08:29] <hivemind> I've ran automatix, and updated everything. Is there anything I should do that automatix doesn't cover?
[08:29] <dadgumit> calJohn: any particular section of the conf you would like to see from x11?
[08:29] <hivemind> I'm working on learned the command line right now.
[08:29] <hivemind> learning*
[08:29] <jrib> !cli > hivemind
[08:29] <Okita> xuxa_: It's okay, #amarok is really repsonsive, it turns out =)
[08:29] <CalJohn> dadgumit: all of it
[08:30] <edubruell> dhclient does not find anything
[08:30] <CalJohn> dadgumit: put it in a pastebin
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> hivemind: spend a few days browsing tldp.org
[08:30] <edubruell> is this a driver problem or a dhcp problem
[08:30] <xuxa_> Okita: nice!  Best of luck with taht
[08:30] <dadgumit> caljohn: I dont' have a ssh connection will have to recreate it, unluess there is a way to connect to IRC from the prompt ?
[08:30] <xuxa_> s/taht/that/
[08:30] <hivemind> Thanks again guys.
[08:30] <dadgumit> caljohn: am on a windows machine now with the linux machine next to me
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: sorry, what are you trying to do again? Your question seems a bit strange.
[08:30] <CalJohn> hivemind: it doesn't cover learning common lisp.  which, imo, should be your next step.  ;)
[08:30] <xuxa_> dadgumit: do you have a knoppix cd on hand?
[08:31] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: install putty on your windows machine, then connect to your linux machine's ip address from it.
[08:31] <RegalDrac> well back to windows i guess
[08:31] <RegalDrac> :d
[08:31] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: putty is a ssh client for windows
[08:31] <xuxa_> you could boot the windows machine into linux.
[08:31] <CalJohn> dadgumit: there is, but it's easily to set up sshd
[08:31] <Tonren> Okita: What troubles were you having with amaroK?
[08:31] <hivemind> CalJohn: Programming Language?
[08:31] <dadgumit> fyrestrtr: basically, trying to get X working on breezy (dapper wouldn't install period)
[08:31] <TokenBad> if a iso was made in raw mode...would mounting it be different?
[08:32] <dadgumit> all: looking up putty, will be right back
[08:32] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: breezy didn't configure x?
[08:32] <CalJohn> hivemind: it's a _programmable_ programming language.  you'll love it.
[08:32] <CalJohn> everyone who knows it does.
[08:32] <xuxa_> dadgumit: best of luck!
[08:32] <dadgumit> fyrestrtr: it tried to, but i still get "no screens found" error and manual reconfiguration does no good
[08:32] <hivemind> CalJohn: Cool, I'll take a look at it as well then. Thanks.
[08:32] <dadgumit> all: brb
[08:34] <dadgumit> All: any particular derivant I should be looking for on PuTTY (i,e. : puttytel) or just straigt up putty?
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: what hardware?
[08:34] <Tonren> dadgumit: Just PuTTY.
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: straight up
[08:34] <CalJohn> hivemind: http://tinyurl.com/r8boj is the best book for total beginners
[08:35] <CalJohn> dadgumit: get all of them, but use putty
[08:35] <Okita> Tonren: My ipod shuffle wasn't getting recognized by amaroK, even though KDE does, and automounts it
[08:35] <sintryx> How do I access my slave HD?
[08:35] <Okita> Tonren: #amarok says to use the newest version on the kubuntu frontpage
[08:36] <CalJohn> sintryx: mount it?
[08:36] <fyrestrtr> sintryx: mount it?
[08:36] <CalJohn> :p
[08:36] <MTecknology> Anybody know howto change the regions on a touchpad for a laptop?
[08:36] <sintryx> < noob
[08:36] <CalJohn> sintryx: that's ok, everyone asks silly questions sometimes ;)
[08:37] <sintryx> "Unable to mount selected volume."
[08:37] <dadgumit> fyrestrtr: x3800+, x800xl, Asus A8R-MVP, 2gigRAM, 80gig raptor 20gig of ext3, dell 2001fpw monitor...  cant think of anything else that might be pertainent
[08:37] <dadgumit> dling putty
[08:37] <ardchoille> sintryx: what command did you use?
[08:37] <sintryx> Just went to 'Computer' right clicked and mounted it.
[08:37] <gholen> How do i Format i mp3-player to FAT s i kan move, and delete files?
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> what in blazes is x3800+ and x800xl? speak to me like I am not some inventory control software at Fry's Electronics.
[08:37] <hivemind> Two things: 1) Woah, the manual pages are comprehensive. 2) What is this "foo" I keep seeing everywhere?
[08:37] <ardchoille> sintryx: What OS is on that drive?
[08:38] <sintryx> no os, just mp3's, videos, etc.
[08:38] <sintryx> it's NTFS though
[08:38] <firstc624> anyone here?
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> MTecknology: you can try any number of the synaptic configuration software available in apt (like tpconfig and qsynaptics)
[08:38] <dadgumit> CalJohn, Fyrestrtr: any configuring need to be done on linux machine to connect with putty?
[08:39] <ardchoille> sintryx: so your master drive is dual-booted with Windows?
[08:39] <sintryx> ardchoille:  yep
[08:39] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[08:39] <ting> quit
[08:39] <ting> exit
[08:39] <snoops> fyrestrtr 3800+ would be an amd x2 dualcore 3200+.. and a x800xl is a radeon card
[08:39] <fyrestrtr> bye ting
[08:39] <MTecknology> fyrestrtr, thanks
[08:39] <snoops> err dualcore 3800+ rather * :)
[08:39] <sintryx> Do I have to network to the slave maybe? I've done something like that in SuSE before.
[08:39] <fyrestrtr> snoops: is that a 64 bit proc?
[08:39] <snoops> yes it is
[08:40] <fyrestrtr> aye yaye -- you are using a 64 bit or a 32 bit install cd?
[08:40] <fyrestrtr> ^ @ dadgumit
[08:40] <firstc624> i have a question...if someone can help me that would be great.  :-)   I have installed the package network-manager but i don't see it anywhere.  how come?
[08:40] <dadgumit> fyre: 32bit
[08:40] <J-_> What's the url that you can paste code and such in it, if it's too big to paste in here?
[08:41] <dadgumit> fyrestrt:breezy
[08:41] <RegalDrac> someone help me dammit
[08:41] <J-_> :S
[08:41] <RegalDrac> im tierd of sitting here tryen these dvd programs
[08:41] <RegalDrac> this is retarted
[08:41] <padi> fyrestrtr: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=136818&page=2 I'm obviously not the only one with that cups issue
[08:41] <ardchoille> J-_: pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:41] <J-_> thanks
[08:41] <dadgumit> crap, anyone know how to exit vi? been too long DONT LAUGH
[08:41] <dadgumit> :)
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: esc :q
[08:41] <dadgumit> i thought it was esc. exit
[08:41] <ardchoille> dadgumit: esc :q
[08:42] <sintryx> ardchoille:  any ideas? =)
[08:42] <RegalDrac> sigh
[08:42] <ardchoille> sintryx: NTFS? No, I have never used that fs
[08:42] <RegalDrac> someone help me find a frigging dvd recorder for ubuntu
[08:42] <RegalDrac> this is retarted
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> firstc624: system > administration > networking
[08:42] <ardchoille> RegalDrac: for ripping a DVD?
[08:42] <RegalDrac> no
[08:43] <RegalDrac> I got a avi i want to make a playable dvd to watch on my dvd player
[08:43] <RegalDrac> without spending 4 hrs recoding
[08:43] <RegalDrac> kinda like nero vision does
[08:43] <polpak> RegalDrac: does your dvd player play avi files?
[08:43] <ardchoille> well, gnomebaker and graveman can both record to dvd
[08:43] <firstc624> thank you fyrestrtr  :-)
[08:44] <ardchoille> polpak: very good question :)
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> RegalDrac: gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_a_DVD
[08:44] <RegalDrac> no
[08:44] <RegalDrac> if they did Play AVI files
[08:44] <RegalDrac> i would use k3b
[08:44] <RegalDrac> and make the movie
[08:44] <RegalDrac> i need them to be realisitic dvds
[08:44] <RegalDrac> fyr not the right thing, thanks tho
[08:45] <ardchoille> RegalDrac: sounds like you need dvdauthor or the like
[08:45] <fyrestrtr> RegalDrac: try http://www.tappin.me.uk/Linux/dvd.html
[08:45] <driggers> hi.  is there a screen manager program?  it seems that my laptop will only support one screen, whichever one was attached at startup
[08:45] <RegalDrac> i got the dvd author program
[08:45] <RegalDrac> does it not have a gui then?
[08:45] <driggers> ie only its own screen or only an external one
[08:45] <ardchoille> driggers: screen is awesome
[08:45] <fyrestrtr> driggers: you probably need to install drivers for your video card
[08:45] <RegalDrac> cause i dont understand how it works
[08:45] <firstc624> next question.  if that is ok.  :-)  are the default repos good enough or should i add some of the other ones i have seen in differ howto helps.  if i should add them which ones do you reccomend?
[08:45] <dadgumit> sorry, back phone
[08:45] <driggers> fyr have done
[08:46] <fyrestrtr> driggers: what video card?
[08:46] <driggers> ard screen has a 2000 page manual
[08:46] <polpak> RegalDrac: you can try qdvdauthor for a gui frontend
[08:46] <J-_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17562 Does my source.list look alright? should I have something else there, or should I take anything out?
[08:46] <Dial_tone> sometimes when I go to log out of gnome the restart and shutdown buttons are completely gone. there is just hibernate. what causes that?
[08:46] <OrgulloKmoore> is it possible for someone to connect to your computer via ssh without you knowing?
[08:46] <ardchoille> firstc624: I personally recommend the default repos and universe and multiverse
[08:46] <RegalDrac> polpak said command not found
[08:46] <polpak> RegalDrac: you have to apt-get it
[08:47] <sintryx> Is there a console in X?
[08:47] <polpak> sintryx: there are terminals yes
[08:47] <firstc624> ardchoille: are the universe and multi on already or do i need to rutn them on?
[08:47] <Crescendo> How do I switch to another virtual desktop?
[08:47] <ardchoille> firstc624: you will need to enable them
[08:47] <hastesaver> RegalDrac, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DVDAuthoring , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvdBurning . Not sure if either of those help, though :)
[08:47] <sintryx> polpak: how do i access it? there is usually a button for it, i dont see it :(
[08:47] <ardchoille> !repos > firstc624
[08:47] <MrZaius> brb.  rebooting
[08:47] <polpak> Crescendo: ctrl-alt left or right arrow
[08:47] <firstc624> ahhh...
[08:47] <polpak> sintryx: applications->accessories->terminal
[08:47] <RegalDrac> everyone gives me alot of nice links
[08:48] <RegalDrac> but dont get what imt rying to do
[08:48] <RegalDrac> lol
[08:48] <sintryx> polpak: ty
[08:48] <RegalDrac> i need to make a dvd like u can rent or buy in a store :d
[08:48] <RegalDrac> works on any dvd player
[08:48] <firstc624> thanks for the help ardchoille  :-)
[08:48] <ardchoille> firstc624: You're welcome :)
[08:48] <Crescendo> polpak, that's workspaces...
[08:48] <Crescendo> =D
[08:48] <driggers> is there a gui monitor manager for ubuntu?
[08:48] <J-_> anyone take a gandor at my source.list?
[08:49] <polpak> J-_: you should comment the CDrom repo, and add the multiverse to security-updates
[08:49] <ardchoille> driggers: gnome-system-monitor ?
[08:49] <fyrestrtr> RegalDrac: you are trying to author a dvd, right? You need to first .. record something, shift it to the pc (kino) .. write the dvd (dvdauthor).
[08:49] <fyrestrtr> RegalDrac: really not that complicated.
[08:49] <polpak> J-_: also, that's a breezy sources.list are you using dapper or breezy?
[08:49] <J-_> breezy
[08:49] <driggers> ardchoille isn't that a cpu monitor?  i want to manage my monitors
[08:49] <finalbeta> Does someone know an ftp client that has the option: "Use site ip for passive mode connections" like flashfxp describes on this page: http://www.inicom.net/pages/en.ffxp-documentation.php?s=hm03x02x01x02 (first option)
[08:50] <ardchoille> driggers: ah, sorry, I misunderstood you :(
[08:50] <driggers> :)
[08:50] <fyrestrtr> driggers: what kind of grpahics card do you have?
[08:50] <RegalDrac> fyrestrtr:  u ever use nero
[08:50] <driggers> nvidia geforce
[08:50] <fyrestrtr> RegalDrac: sure.
[08:50] <hastesaver> RegalDrac, but why doesn't K3B work? What about New Project -> Make Video DVD? Isn't that what you want?
[08:50] <driggers> its installed.  i get the screen at the start
[08:50] <firstc624> oh that brings up soemthing else i saw when i was updating my items.  it wouldn't let me download anything from security.ubutu.com or something like that.  is that a known issue or have i get somethign blocking that?
[08:50] <RegalDrac> i want a simple way to make dvds like uc an with nero vision
[08:50] <J-_> polpak: what do you mean by comment the  cdrom rep?
[08:50] <RegalDrac> u know the avis get renecoded and put on a dvd
[08:50] <RegalDrac> then i can pop in the dvd player and watch
[08:50] <dadgumit> kback
[08:51] <polpak> J-_: put a # in front of the line    deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[08:51] <dadgumit> starting ssh not working, command not found error
[08:51] <hastesaver> RegalDrac, ok, so you have an avi file and you want to make a DVD out of it? Or you have some other kind of file and want to make a DVD out of it?
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> driggers: you have two options -- xinerama and twinview.
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:51] <Crescendo> What is the methoc of switching virtual desktops... CTRL ALT F1 or something, right?
[08:51] <J-_> k thanks
[08:51] <RegalDrac> hastesaver:  that dont work because, that just puts avi files in a dvd named folder
[08:51] <RegalDrac> it wont play the video on the tv
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> Crescendo: virtual desktops in gnome, or consoles?
[08:51] <RegalDrac> i have 2 avis
[08:52] <Crescendo> Mrm, whatever 3D-Desktop utilizes.
[08:52] <Crescendo> =D
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> RegalDrac: you are missing a step, because this is how the entire linux world burns dvds :)
[08:52] <polpak> Crescendo: oh, you're talking about XGL
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> Crescendo: try ctrl+alt+left arrow and ctrl+alt+right arrow
[08:52] <polpak> !xgl
[08:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:52] <RegalDrac> well i could make a entire dvd on windows in about 30 min tops
[08:52] <polpak> Crescendo: take it to #ubuntu-xgl ;p
[08:52] <RegalDrac> i dont wanna renecode 2 videos for 4 hrs
[08:52] <RegalDrac> then burn for 20 min
[08:53] <RegalDrac> thats silly
[08:53] <npk> could someone point me in the right direction for getting an smp kernel installed?
[08:53] <dadgumit> start failed
[08:53] <archetypo> kaot you around?
[08:53] <RegalDrac> there no dvd santa or nero vision type program for linux
[08:53] <RegalDrac> ?
[08:53] <RegalDrac> anywhere?
[08:53] <hastesaver> RegalDrac, Yes, I understand. I know what's a Video DVD, and what's just a data DVD with an avi file in it... ok, you have avis.
[08:53] <dadgumit> wait may already be on
[08:53] <fyrestrtr> driggers: see http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=387&num=1 for your twin screen setup.
[08:53] <hastesaver> RegalDrac, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DVDAuthoring does what you want, AFAICT
[08:54] <basschimp> hi guys
[08:54] <cheatersrealm> how can I automatically configure the xorg configuration file?
[08:54] <firstc624> oh that brings up soemthing else i saw when i was updating my items.  it wouldn't let me download anything from security.ubutu.com or something like that.  is that a known issue or have i get somethign blocking that?
[08:54] <basschimp> i was wondering if anyone could help me with a gnome panel question
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> !anyone
[08:54] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:54] <RegalDrac> hey haste
[08:55] <RegalDrac> i got dvd author installed
[08:55] <RegalDrac> i cant figure it out
[08:55] <basschimp> i know i can get the main part of the panel transparent, but how do i get e.g. the apps/places/system bars transparent too?
[08:55] <basschimp> as in this screenshot: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b96/snewberry1980/Other/010706.png
[08:55] <J-_> polpak: sorry to bother you again, you said add the multiverse to security-updates
[08:55] <J-_> i need to enable it in synaptic?
[08:56] <Maft> helow
[08:56] <hastesaver> RegalDrac, try one of the GUI frontends mentioned further down on that page. Also maybe try http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183936
[08:56] <Maft> anybody here who can help me out a lil bit?
[08:56] <archetypo> can someone on an ubuntu machine look in your system menu and see what the name of that application is called that lets you mount and unmount disks?
[08:57] <gavagai> !anyone
[08:57] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:57] <frogzoo> Maft: we can't answer that without guessing what your problem is...
[08:57] <J-_> polpak: or should i just go to http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic and reconfigure the sources list so everything works out fine?
[08:58] <basschimp> also, since installing the kubuntu-desktop package to try out KDE (hated it), my boot splash and everything has been kubuntu rather than ubuntu
[08:58] <polpak> J-_: This is what I use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17563
[08:58] <basschimp> which is alright, i guess, since it's prettier, but confusing all the same
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> basschimp: just re-install ubunutu-desktop, should fix it.
[08:58] <RegalDrac> where is gdebi installer at
[08:58] <Maft> I am new to linux
[08:58] <Maft> I want to mount my hd's
[08:58] <basschimp> fyrestrtr, thanks. not a huge problem.
[08:59] <Maft> can anybody help?
[08:59] <polpak> J-_: the only difference in your would be anywhere I have dapper you should have breezy and anywhere I have us.archive.ubuntu.com you should have ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:59] <hastesaver> RegalDrac, Just double-clicking on it in the GUI should do
[08:59] <basschimp> i'm tearing my hair out over proper transprency in gnome panels, though
[08:59] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: you're gonna need the mind-reader-2.0.so.0 plugin, lol
[08:59] <RegalDrac> where is the gui
[08:59] <RegalDrac> to double click on it
[08:59] <Warbo> Maft: Are they appearing automatically? (Also, are you in the CD, or do you have Ubuntu installed?)
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> ardchoille: can't compile the lib against my libGL.so
[08:59] <gnomefreak> basschimp: i think it has alot to do with the theme being used
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> friggin ati drivers
[08:59] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: hahaha
[08:59] <Maft> warbo I installed ubunto and the drives are appearing automatically
[09:00] <hastesaver> RegalDrac, I meant the File Mananger or whatever. Nautilus -- the one in which you see the files. Double click on the .deb file you downloaded
[09:00] <dadgumit> how can i check to see if I am connected to local network from shell?
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: ifconfig
[09:00] <wasynyt> how can i get good sound playback in unreal tournament 2004.. my sound card is m-audio delta 44.. the sound seems to have only lower frequences and and it seems rather odd.. like slow motion sound.. movies and audio files play well without problems (dapper)
[09:00] <Warbo> Maft: So what do you want to change about the way they are mounted?
[09:00] <dadgumit> tnx
[09:00] <boma> hi all
[09:00] <darkfrog> I set my Ubuntu box up with a normal monitor and now I'm trying to connect it to a TV with the composite output.  It boots up fine, but when it loads X I just get a black screen. If I boot from the boot CD in Safe Graphics Mode, then it works fine.  What do I need to change to get video back?
[09:00] <J-_> I might just use the source o matic so i can ensure everything's right
[09:01] <yp> ue
[09:01] <Maft> I can't get on them
[09:01] <Maft> I see them, but it says they can not be mounted
[09:01] <gavagai> darkfrog, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:01] <boma> is there anyone from switzerland?
[09:01] <RegalDrac> hey hastesaver my theme has randomly went werid shades of black
[09:01] <RegalDrac> etc
[09:01] <Warbo> Maft: Are they in /media (the folder)?
[09:01] <RegalDrac> how do i fix it
[09:01] <Maft> sec
[09:01] <peibol> someones has an ipod?
[09:01] <RegalDrac> i tried to switch themes back but there sitll dark
[09:01] <dadgumit> fyrestrtr: thnx for your help, if my tx and rx bytes are 0.0 i am prolly not connected huh?
[09:01] <basschimp> gnomefreak, i think i love you :P
[09:01] <basschimp> switched to clearlooks and now all is well
[09:01] <gnomefreak> peibol: just ask your question
[09:01] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: maybe you aren't sending anything using that interface.
[09:01] <Maft> the folder is called computer
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: ping something
[09:02] <darkfrog> gavagai, thanks...I'll give that a try
[09:02] <gnomefreak> basschimp: i got mine to be like that after  a year or so ;)
[09:02] <dadgumit> fyrestrtr: only network interface there besides loopback
[09:02] <CalJohn> wc
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: eh?
[09:02] <Warbo> Maft: OK, go into "Filesystem" in there, then look for "media". There should be some (probably empty) folders in there, are there?
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> gnomefreak: traitor
[09:02] <gnomefreak> ;)
[09:02] <dadgumit> fyrestrtr: unreachable, i dont have a connection
[09:02] <basschimp> ...but now i need a new wallpaper, cos this ThinkLinux one is too dark to for text to show up on the panels with transparency
[09:02] <peibol> sorry for my english, im spanish....can enybody tell me how i can format my ipod on linux?
[09:03] <basschimp> to gnome-looks.org!
[09:03] <Crescendo> !es
[09:03] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:03] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: is your network card detected and installed?
[09:03] <ardchoille> http://gnome-look.org  and  http://art.gnome.org
[09:03] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: can those two URL's be added to the bot?
[09:03] -orge:#ubuntu- -MemoServ- You have 1 message waiting. To read /server MemoServ READ 1. For more info /msg MemoServ help.
[09:03] <RegalDrac> can someone tell me why my theme has went darkner for no rsn
[09:03] <dadgumit> fyrestrtr: it shows up on the ifconfig, if that means yes
[09:04] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: but is it configured? :) does it have an ip address?
[09:04] <gnomefreak> !theme
[09:04] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy
[09:04] <Maft> warbo I am in the folder media, but there isn't anything there
[09:04] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: they are there already
[09:04] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: oh, were they already there?
[09:04] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: ahh, ok :)
[09:04] <gnomefreak> !theme > ardchoille
[09:04] <gnomefreak> :)
[09:04] <ardchoille> Thanks!
[09:04] <Tom7e> what is the ubuntu hotplug firmware directory?
[09:05] <dadgumit> fyresrtr: yes, but I assigned it, it couldn't connect via dhcp during install
[09:05] <ardchoille> art.ubuntu.com?
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: you got the correct subnet?
[09:05] <RegalDrac> sigh
[09:05] <RegalDrac> im tierd of messing with this garbage
[09:05] <RegalDrac> :(
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: check the obvious? cables, etc.
[09:05] <dadgumit> fyrestrtr: yes, yes and yes
[09:05] <Warbo> Maft: OK then, can you open the text editor (in Applications>Accessories) and open the file (in "Filesystem") etc/fstab. Then you can paste it into the pastebin so I can look at it
[09:06] <Warbo> !pastebin
[09:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: pastebin ifconfig output
[09:06] <dadgumit> fyrestrtr: can't do that unless i can connect to it via putty, or figure out irc on bash
[09:06] <RegalDrac> anyone here use transcode
[09:07] <gnomefreak> dadgumit: irssi ;)
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: irc on bash = irssu
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> err, irssi
[09:07] <dadgumit> fyrestrtr, it got the mac on its own so mabe something going on there
[09:07] <ubuntu> wellbuttie
[09:07] <Maft> warbo PM
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: you don't assign mac addresses.
[09:08] <dadgumit> fyrestrtr: yea, am saying at least it knows that
[09:08] <MTecknology_> How do I enable SHMConfig?
[09:08] <gnomefreak> dadgumit: in tty type irssi when it starts type /connect chat.freenode.net  than id yourself to freenode than /join #ubuntu ;)
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: well, if it didn't you'd have an interesting paperweight.
[09:08] <RegalDrac> can someone please help me
[09:08] <RegalDrac> iv spent like 10 hrs tryen to make 1 dvd lol
[09:08] <RegalDrac> :d
[09:08] <Maft> unionfs / unionfs rw 0 0
[09:08] <gnomefreak> RegalDrac: whats the issue?
[09:08] <Maft> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[09:08] <Maft> that's what I got Warbo
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> RegalDrac: go take a break and come back to it.
[09:09] <speedsix> Hi, does anyone know how to access the gnome 'start' menu via the keyboard, i,e without a mouse?
[09:09] <gabspeck> is there any fix for the sound bug with flash movies on firefox yet :s i tried that alsa-oss one but it makes fx unstable :\
[09:09] <RegalDrac> i need to make a dvd that i can play on any dvd player
[09:09] <kaot> who's archetypo and why were they looking for me?
[09:09] <RegalDrac> and watch the video
[09:09] <RegalDrac> from  2 avis
[09:09] <Warbo> Maft: Looks like you are running Ubuntu off a CD
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> speedsix: try the windows key
[09:09] <Maft> darn then the installation screwed up
[09:09] <gnomefreak> RegalDrac: lol i ran into that issue a while back decided to use nero :(
[09:09] <speedsix> fyrestrtr, doesn't work
[09:09] <RegalDrac> i cant use nero
[09:09] <RegalDrac> sigh
[09:09] <Maft> ok then I need ti retry this
[09:10] <Warbo> Maft: If you installed Ubuntu then when you reboot make sure the CD is not in the drive :)
[09:10] <Maft> sorry for the troubles :s
[09:10] <RegalDrac> u know how to emulate nero?
[09:10] <ardchoille> RegalDrac: you have to author the dvd, there's no way around that for what you want to do
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> speedsix: that's a good question, don't think there is a keyboard shortcut.
[09:10] <Maft> thx for the info
[09:10] <Maft> brb
[09:10] <RegalDrac> ard tell me how  the guides dont make no sense
[09:10] <RegalDrac> or give commands
[09:10] <nielsm> i have an odd problem, i think i'm missing most device nodes on my 5.10 system (server install). i hotplugged an usb mass-storage device, and while it was detected by kernel etc, i don't have any device node, and is unable to mount it. it seems it should be created as sda, but 'MAKEDEV sda' doesn't produce a useful device (mount errors out)
[09:10] <RegalDrac> im new to linux so alot dont make sense
[09:10] <RegalDrac> tell me a command
[09:10] <RegalDrac> :d
[09:10] <RegalDrac> i got transcode, dvdauthor, kino and others installed
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> nielsm: hrmm, hotplug running?
[09:11] <Warbo> nielsm: Try doing a "sudo modprobe usb_storage"
[09:11] <ardchoille> RegalDrac: the best advice I can give you is to read the docs for dvdauthor and learn how it works
[09:11] <RegalDrac> sigh
[09:11] <nielsm> fyrestrtr:  might be that, i'm nto sure it is, going to check
[09:11] <RegalDrac> dvd author sucks
[09:11] <RegalDrac> :/
[09:11] <gabspeck> is there any fix for the sound bug with flash movies on firefox yet? :s i tried that alsa-oss one but it makes fx unstable :\
[09:11] <nielsm> Warbo: dmesg clearly shows the kernel detected the device, and it shows correctly up in /sys
[09:12] <ardchoille> RegalDrac: how do you know that? you haven't even tried to learn how it works.
[09:12] <dragon> hi
[09:12] <RegalDrac> how do you know wtf i have did
[09:12] <RegalDrac> i read the help
[09:12] <fyrestrtr> roflmao @ ^
[09:12] <dragon> how what works?
[09:13] <speedsix> how can I find my local ip address from the command line?
[09:13] <dragon> hahahha\
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> ifconfig
[09:13] <Warbo> speedsix: ifconfig
[09:13] <polpak> speedsix: ifconfig
[09:13] <fthiesen> ifconfig
[09:13] <frogzoo> snap
[09:13] <speedsix> thanks
[09:13] <dragon> ifconfig
[09:13] <Ademan> can anyone point me to the grub dual boot wiki entry?
[09:13] <dragon> lol
[09:13] <Ademan> !tell ademan about dualboot
[09:13] <dragon> witch 1 is it?
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> !grub > Ademan
[09:13] <RegalDrac> DOES anyone here
[09:13] <RegalDrac> use transcode
[09:14] <nielsm> fyrestrtr: thanks, it was indeed hotplug that was missing
[09:14] <Warbo> RegalDrac: Not directly (I have done before though)
[09:14] <RegalDrac> the guide isent giving proper instructions on how to convert avi to mpeg2
[09:14] <frogzoo> nielsm: thinks I recall a bug in launchpad to that effect - most devices not created
[09:14] <dadgumit> i cant believe i just went through trying to connect to irc so i can paste in my ip config file in to troubleshoot a network connection issue
[09:14] <RegalDrac> can you pretty PLEASE tell me how to make a avi into a mpeg2
[09:14] <dadgumit> :(
[09:14] <dadgumit> dur
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> nielsm: glad it worked out.
[09:14] <Warbo> RegalDrac: No idea. I COULD read the manual, but that is something you can do
[09:14] <__doc__> Hi, I want to add some custom keys from my keyboard to output specific sequences and I want to remap some standard keys, I'm on ubuntu plain. any pointers and advice?
[09:14] <RegalDrac> wtf is with people
[09:14] <MTecknology_> How do I enable SHMConfig "on" in my XOrg/XFree86 configuration??
[09:14] <RegalDrac> i told you it dont say
[09:15] <RegalDrac> :d
[09:15] <dragon> its cuz u keep askin silly questions d00d
[09:15] <archetypo> kaot ping
[09:15] <Warbo> MTecknology_: The file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:15] <dragon> ive only been on linux for about 5 hours
[09:15] <kaot> sup
[09:15] <RegalDrac> bunch of garbage responces today
[09:15] <MTecknology_> Warbo, I don't have xorg.conf though
[09:15] <archetypo> <-- barkley, found my password for freenode.  have an article for you
[09:16] <jadams> what are you guys using for an email client?
[09:16] <kaot> shoot
[09:16] <jadams> I can't use evolution - too slow
[09:16] <jadams> I'm on breezy, also
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> jadams: mutt on the console, evolution on gnome
[09:16] <Ademan> what do i put in my menu.lst?
[09:16] <ardchoille> jadams: I use Thunderbird most of the time
[09:16] <dragon> and i found converters for mp3 - 25 other formats and there was movie ones to....but i dunno how to do the packages yet lmao
[09:16] <saxin> Jack_Sparrow, thunderbird
[09:16] <hastesaver> RegalDrac, there's a GUI for transcode, called Gtranscode. Maybe that will be easier to use. I don't know
[09:16] <MTecknology_> Warbo, sorry I'm dumb, I found it ty
[09:16] <jadams> ardchoille: pretty happy with it?
[09:16] <Ademan> hah nvm
[09:16] <dragon> im in hoary
[09:16] <jadams> I've only used it from windows
[09:16] <archetypo> kaot http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8172
[09:16] <ardchoille> jadams: I am, yes, but some don't like it.
[09:16] <jadams> saxin: thanks, too
[09:16] <speedsix> does anyone know how to get a vnc server working on dapper?
[09:16] <jadams> I'll try it out now
[09:16] <frogzoo> Ademan: if you don't know what you're doing- you leave it alone...
[09:17] <mc__> !vnc > speedsix
[09:17] <RegalDrac> thanks haste
[09:17] <RegalDrac> ill try it
[09:17] <Ademan> frogzoo: ...
[09:17] <archetypo> it works flawlessly, but the bridge interface is slightly slower if you are going for raw speed on gigabit.  but that article's great and the setup is dead simple
[09:17] <dadgumit> fyrestrtr: any other ideas on how to get network connected so i can ssh into the machine so i can paste in my X log and conf so ican maybe get ubuntu up and running?
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> dadgumit: what happened to running ssh on the linux box and putty on the windows box?
[09:18] <kaot> archetypo: cool
[09:18] <__doc__> how do I modify my X to add some special keys (like the useless windows key, and some multimedia keys)?
[09:18] <kaot> archetypo: i figured some addit'l software would be necessary.  I found some other software to do it too,don't remember the name
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> __doc__: windows key should work 'out of the box'
[09:19] <dadgumit> fyrestrtr: dont have working network connection on linux box
[09:19] <__doc__> fyrestrtr: doesn't
[09:19] <dadgumit> fyrestrt: no ping anyways
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> __doc__: adjust the keyboard type then, it works here on three machines with out changing anything
[09:19] <kaot> archetypo: ah it was apparently the same stuff with a different package name
[09:19] <Warbo> dadgumit: Windows key stops working for me in Compiz, but works fine in regular X
[09:19] <RegalDrac> hastesaver:  the gui is werid :d
[09:19] <frogzoo> __doc__: you use 'xev' to get the keycodes, & xmodmap to remap them
[09:19] <kaot> have to play with that
[09:19] <hastesaver> RegalDrac, sorry, I've never used it :)
[09:19] <Warbo> Oops, wrong guy :)
[09:20] <MTecknology_> Warbo, I have xorg.conf open but I can't find an SHMConfig anywhere
[09:20] <__doc__> frogzoo: thx a bunch
[09:20] <archetypo> kaot: i'm having all kinds of problems though with nfs mounts from that machine so i just picked up a gigabit switch rather than trying to turn that box into a  server and a router.
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> __doc__: and xmms-itouch to make your media keys work in xmms
[09:20] <dadgumit> Warbo: perhaps it is your flux capacitor/
[09:20] <dadgumit> ?
[09:20] <kaot> archetypo: still?  I thought you had that working
[09:20] <dadgumit> :)
[09:20] <archetypo> kaot: the problems though are specific to os x
[09:20] <Warbo> MTecknology_: I don't know what that is so I wouldn't know sorry (maybe add it yourself?)
[09:20] <ardchoille> dadgumit: hahaha
[09:20] <archetypo> and their bastardization of nfs
[09:21] <kaot> archetypo: ahhh gotcha
[09:21] <MTecknology_> Warbo, I'm looking at http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/synclient.1.html - would you have any idea where to put it?
[09:21] <firstc624> i am back...lol...  How do I view my temps of my computer?  I am running a laptop and i want to make sure it doesn't run to hot w/ linux..
[09:21] <firstc624> and what is the normal operating temp anyway?
[09:21] <dragon> mines about 60C
[09:22] <kaot> 54C here
[09:22] <firstc624> what did you install to view your temps though?
[09:22] <__doc__> fyrestrtr: how do I adjust the keyboard type?
[09:22] <Hawk|-> the question was how to find out ?!
[09:22] <dadgumit> fyrestrtr looked at log file for X, seems to be bombing out on PCI mapping from the file (hand typed): ATI: PCI Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could not be detected
[09:22] <kaot> firstc624: gkrellm and ubuntu automaticaly picked up my cpu temp sensors
[09:22] <dragon> my mate behind me has windows runnin his pc at like 90C lmao
[09:22] <archetypo> kaot: all the problems went away once it was switched, so no clue what protocols needed to be tweaked in the routing and stuff.
[09:22] <dadgumit> fyrestrtr same for slot 1:0:1
[09:22] <Warbo> MTecknology_: (my computer is running SLOW at the moment, so give me a minute)
[09:23] <MTecknology_> Warbo, ok thanks
[09:23] <kaot> archetypo: i've played with nfs even less than i've played with osx, which is pretty much nil.  i'd help you if i could but got no knowledge of that
[09:23] <__doc__> fyrestrtr: xorg.confg?
[09:23] <dragon> so is there a "newb" chanel for linux...or is this it lol
[09:23] <MTecknology_> Warbo, this is my prob
[09:23] <MTecknology_> michael@madhemlap:/etc/X11$ syndaemon
[09:23] <MTecknology_> Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?
[09:23] <kaot> archetypo: read some nfs horror stories a few years ago and basically decided on samba, performance be damned
[09:23] <firstc624> kaot: what did you select to see your temp though?  i don't see one  :-(  forgive me as i am new to linux
[09:23] <__doc__> dragon: I guess this is it ^^
[09:23] <firstc624> in case u couldn't tell...rofl
[09:23] <Bt-> Just was going to pop in here and say that I installed Linux for the first time in my life (ubuntu, drake) and everything works great :)
[09:23] <dragon> lol ok doc
[09:24] <dragon> dont lie to me lol
[09:24] <kaot> firstc624: your mobo may not have a sensor.  you using gkrellm?
[09:24] <Warbo> MTecknology_: I don't think that is for Xorg, I think it is /dev/shm or something
[09:24] <chris_> !mp3
[09:24] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:24] <dragon> coz im a hardcore newb here :D
[09:24] <Tom7e> what is the ubuntu hotplug firmware directory?
[09:24] <Bt-> Well, exept my NTFS 250 gig, but that is gonna be cool when I format it to FAT32
[09:24] <firstc624> kaot:  i honestly do not know.  how do i look?
[09:24] <archetypo> kaot: yeah, there are situations that you can get in where the dir looks mounted, but isn't then you write, then it returns and your underlying data is toast
[09:24] <dadgumit> fyrestrt: still with me?
[09:24] <kaot> firstc624: open a term and type "gkrellm."  if it says bad command, it isn't installed
[09:25] <firstc624> good answer..lol
[09:25] <firstc624> let me look
[09:25] <kaot> archetypo: oh yum.
[09:25] <dadgumit> brb
[09:25] <archetypo> kaot: and that just doesn't happen with samba, because the mounts are on-demand
[09:25] <MTecknology_> Warbo, what's supposed to be in there>
[09:25] <MTecknology_> ?
[09:25] <archetypo> but using samba to have two unix machines talking feels like giving two army mean fisher-price walkie talkies. :D
[09:25] <kaot> archetypo: lol, good analogy
[09:26] <Warbo> MTecknology_: I think there is a folder with a RAM-based filesystem called /dev/shm, which the program hasn't found (so Ubuntu might not use it, I don't know). Try asking the channel for more info
[09:26] <kaot> archetypo: I felt a little dirty doing it, but I had a good excuse because my network was mixed anyway
[09:26] <archetypo> there are definately unix filename issues if you have people doing exotic things
[09:26] <GaiaX11> How to set up my konsole to accept accented words?
[09:27] <speedsix> I'm having trouble getting a VNC server up and running on a machine I can only access via SSH, I have install 'vnc4server' on the server machine but the client machine cannot connet, connection refused
[09:27] <dragon> does the ati radeon 9550 work off flgrx drvrs?
[09:27] <MTecknology> Does anybody have anybody have an idea how to correct this?
[09:27] <MTecknology> michael@madhemlap:/etc/X11$ syndaemon
[09:27] <MTecknology> Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?
[09:27] <firstc624> kaot: ok it is installed now, and i have it running...where to i loko to see the temp?
[09:28] <kaot> firstc624: right click on the app, go to configuration, builtins, sensors
[09:28] <archetypo> if you end up keeping gkrellm running check out http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=33783
[09:28] <kaot> if you've got an arrow next to temp, you've got a temp sensor.  if you don't, i dont' know what to tell ya :\
[09:29] <archetypo> firestc624 it makes the window transparent and things look like they are printed to the desktop...kinda cool
[09:29] <kaot> archetypo: heh i've got the original transparent theme running already
[09:29] <archetypo> link?
[09:29] <Hawk|-> but a centrino notebook should have temp sensor ?! or?
[09:30] <kaot> archetypo: http://www.muhri.net/gkrellm/GKrellM-Skins.tar.gz
[09:30] <kaot> archetypo: that's a whole pack of themes
[09:30] <morden> Hiya, I just installed xubuntu desktop version and I wonder how I can make backups from another computer (windows) through rsync on the xubuntu machine... I just keep getting told in cygwin "rsync failed to connect to IP: connection refused"
[09:30] <Hawk|-> because, my temp settings are disabled
[09:30] <kaot> archetypo: like 40 or 50 of them
[09:30] <archetypo> nifty
[09:30] <GaiaX11> For example: the word "" shows up "?" in my konsole
[09:30] <ardchoille> kaot: Thank you for that url, I was wondering where that pack was :)
[09:30] <kaot> archetypo: yeah that's one of the first 4 or 5 things I grab on a new install :\
[09:30] <archetypo> kaot what are the other things you grab on a new install?
[09:31] <firstc624> ok this is weird.  I had an arrow next to the temp, i told it to enable, then it added a degree in C next to my cpu but it is 0.0
[09:31] <kaot> archetypo: fluxbox, aterm, elinks, irssi
[09:32] <kaot> archetypo: some other stuff i can't remember offhand, but gimme a fresh box and i could tell you :\
[09:32] <kaot> ethereal
[09:32] <kaot> is one
[09:32] <kaot> djbdns
[09:32] <kaot> hm
[09:32] <kaot> lemme think
[09:32] <kaot> hehe
[09:32] <hastesaver> RegalDrac, qdvdauthor is very easy to use, I just tried it
[09:32] <archetypo> why aterm over gnome or x?
[09:33] <kaot> archetypo: it's a bit lighter than xterm, i don't use all of xterm's features
[09:33] <mabus> eterm > aterm
[09:33] <RegalDrac> hastesaver:  i found a program
[09:33] <RegalDrac> if i can figure out how to install
[09:33] <RegalDrac> :/
[09:33] <kaot> plus it does transparent backgrounds
[09:33] <dragon> wonderful...what program did u find?
[09:34] <RegalDrac> hastesaver:  ok can u give me a command to make a avi file mpeg2
[09:34] <kaot> mabus: meh, i never liked eterm much
[09:34] <dragon> lol
[09:34] <dragon> regal do u have msn or yahoo?
[09:34] <masterofallarts> can I raise mouse pointer speed beyond the scope of the gnome mouse utility?
[09:34] <mabus> and gnometerm is just horrible...
[09:34] <kaot> gnome isn't too too bad.  overkill for a term though.
[09:34] <Foobal> in my experience both aterm and eterm just suck with utf8
[09:34] <mabus> I mean the term that comes with gnome.
[09:35] <kaot> mabus: that's what i'm talking about too.  i forgot to add "term" :\
[09:35] <hastesaver> RegalDrac, no, use transcode or mencoder. That's all I can say (or try  qdvdauthor )
[09:35] <Foobal> gnome-terminal has by default very sane character handling settings.. very convenient
[09:36] <RegalDrac> whats the command to untar a .tar file
[09:36] <kaot> tar -xvf
[09:36] <eucalre> good
[09:36] <masterofallarts> I would think there is some conf-file to handle mouse pointer speed. which 1 is that?
[09:36] <archetypo> yeah i like the lack of futzing with gnome term
[09:36] <dadgumit> sigh
[09:36] <dadgumit> any other idea, i am pretty sure it sin't the pci address
[09:37] <archetypo> is djbdns a dns cacher?
[09:37] <zybrid_> djbdns is a dns server.
[09:37] <archetypo> !djbdns
[09:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about djbdns
[09:37] <archetypo> kaot: why do you use djbdns?
[09:37] <kaot> it caches too
[09:37] <kaot> for the caching
[09:37] <archetypo> for speed on the lan?
[09:37] <yango> I used Konqueror to download images from my camera, I upgraded to 6.06 and now it doesn't work.. the folder appears but upon clicking on it I get an "Unknown error"
[09:37] <kaot> plus i used to host domain back when
[09:37] <kaot> archetypo: yeah.  i don't like having to rely on isp dns
[09:37] <kaot> i'm weird like that
[09:38] <Teqonix> Uh-oh, looks like Apache2 isn't compatible with a web portal I want to install. Do I just use 'apt-get remove apache2' and go download the tarball of apache 1.3?
[09:38] <archetypo> man purge
[09:38] <archetypo> i was thinking of setting up dnsmasq today, is that the easiest to config and setup for just caching on the lan?
[09:38] <Foobal> Teqonix: that shouldn't be possible.. I mean something being "not compatible" with apache2
[09:38] <J-_> how can i update xmms?
[09:38] <RegalDrac> what is kommander
[09:38] <kaot> archetypo: haven't tried it, i don't think
[09:38] <yango> anyhow there are packages for apache 1
[09:38] <RegalDrac> how do i install somethen that needs it
[09:39] <yango> so you don't need the tarball Teqonix
[09:39] <J-_> err i mean amsn... lol
[09:39] <Teqonix> Apparently this portal software doesn't 'play nice' with Apache2. Don't know why.
[09:39] <andrewski> does anyone have any tips for setting up lirc on dapper?  e.g. does one have to recompile the kernel, etc.?  i've seen a few howtos that seem overly complicated.
[09:39] <yango> no one uses cameras here? :(
[09:39] <chris_> can ubuntu interface with an xbox 360 like windows can?
[09:39] <zybrid_> Teqonix, it should work fine, have you tried the portal? what portal are you talking about?
[09:39] <kaot> mmmnope. definitely haven't used dnsmasq
[09:39] <zybrid_> chris_, no
[09:39] <kaot> just bind and djbdns
[09:39] <dadgumit> hey guys i am at my whits end
[09:39] <zybrid_> chris_, not yet that is
[09:39] <dadgumit> wits*
[09:40] <archetypo> bind looks like overkill for what i need
[09:40] <Teqonix> zybrid- Yeah, it's called CPG-Dragonfly.
[09:40] <dadgumit> i have no idea what is going on with my x
[09:40] <Teqonix> Based off of PHP-Nuke, IIRC.
[09:40] <Teqonix> And yeah, I did try it.
[09:40] <dadgumit> although I have been getting familiar with the prompt again
[09:40] <Teqonix> Hung me out to dry when I needed to set up cookies, and in a support thread about this issue I was having, the current version only works right with Apache 1.3, apparently.
[09:40] <RegalDrac> what is KOmmander
[09:40] <masterofallarts> bye, ill see whether someone will answer tomorrow
[09:41] <dragon> ok
[09:41] <andrewski> RegalDrac: kde's file manager, if i recall correctly.
[09:41] <Warbo> RegalDrac: I think it is a 2-pane file manager
[09:41] <zybrid_> Teqonix, try the apache2 version first :)
[09:41] <RegalDrac> i got a file
[09:41] <K_Holtz> I'm about to submit a question on the forum regarding getting my CD Burner recognized, i provided the Brand, connection info inside the box, and the output of typing mount in terminal.. is there anything else i should provide in order to make it easy for those trying to help me with this issue?
[09:41] <RegalDrac> that wants it
[09:41] <RegalDrac> to install
[09:41] <RegalDrac> is there a way arnd it
[09:41] <Teqonix> zybrid- It's not out yet.
[09:41] <Warbo> RegalDrac: "sudo aptitude install kommander" maybe?
[09:41] <andrewski> RegalDrac: what file?  and do you mean package?
[09:41] <Teqonix> Still under development, I believe.
[09:42] <Teqonix> Also, yango- Is there a database of packages I can look at that come with Ubuntu Server? I'm a terrible linux noob. =P
[09:42] <dragon> ok brb k im gonna work out how to get my gfx card runnin!
[09:42] <dadgumit> whimper?
[09:42] <dadgumit> lil help?
[09:42] <kaot> dadgumit: what's your problem now?
[09:42] <firstc624> ok i have gkrellm installed and such but it will not even change my temps.  I have a temp sensor in my pc, the prog shows i do, but my temp is staying at 0.0C the entire time...is there a differ prog that i might try?
[09:42] <dadgumit> still same, non functioning x server (no screens found
[09:42] <yango> Teqonix: yes... you can check with synaptic package manager all the packages installed within the repositories configured in your sources list, or use apt-cache search, to search for packages in the command line
[09:42] <reon> Anyone here know anything about CSS ?
[09:43] <J-_> when using dpkg -i package.deb do i have to go to the directory where the .deb was downloaded?
[09:43] <kaot> firstc624: dunno
[09:43] <andrewski> J-_: no
[09:43] <J-_> k thanks
[09:43] <Teqonix> Ah. Thanks, yango.
[09:43] <dadgumit> kaot:  have tried reconfiguring, changin pci address etc... no dice any ideas what to check next?
[09:43] <yango> J-_: or use dpkg -i /path/to/the/deb
[09:43] <RegalDrac> warbo that dident install the right thing
[09:43] <RegalDrac> Warbo:  that installed a editor
[09:43] <J-_> k thanks
[09:44] <sktx> alright so.. i borked my sound following this howto... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 ... after i set everything back to the way it was, sound is still borked.  anyone know why?
[09:44] <kaot> dadgumit: oh.  sounds like no vid  card driver.  usually when i run into that, I bang on it every which way til it works.  I'm no good at providing help with that.
[09:44] <dadgumit> lol
[09:44] <dadgumit> but I picked the card from the list!
[09:44] <dadgumit> lol
[09:44] <dredhammer> can someone point me to a link  to install xgl and compiz as a seesion in Dapper
[09:44] <dadgumit> anyone help with a x server issue?
[09:44] <garcia> can anybody tell me a program to burn cd in ubuntu please??
[09:44] <dredhammer> *session
[09:45] <kaot> garcia: graveman
[09:45] <dadgumit> prutty please... i have looked all over, the manual was no help
[09:45] <garcia> thanks kaot
[09:45] <sharms> !tell dredhammer about xgl
[09:45] <dredhammer> gnomebaker
[09:45] <mrproper> Is there a Beagle applet?
[09:45] <dredhammer> burns  cds
[09:46] <sharms> garcia: but a blank cd in and the gnome burner will come up
[09:46] <kaot> does Xorg -config work like XFree86 -config used to?
[09:46] <Knag> dredhammer: perhaps http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127090
[09:46] <sharms> garcia: if you need advanced burning like mp3 -> audio etc, use k3b or gnomebaker
[09:46] <garcia> ok o0k
[09:46] <garcia> thank
[09:46] <sharms> !tell dadgumit about anyone
[09:46] <andrewski> mrproper: deskbar
[09:47] <andrewski> sharms, garcia: rhythmbox and nautilus do that too, yes?
[09:47] <mrproper> andrewski, They're removing the old applet for deskbar?  How do I get deskbar to work with beagle?
[09:47] <dredhammer> ok i'll give it a look
[09:47] <garcia> thanks sharms this is the program that I was looking for ;)
[09:47] <andrewski> mrproper: have everything installed, i.e. deskbar-applet, beagle, etc.?
[09:47] <andrewski> mrproper: it just works for me.
[09:47] <mrproper> andrewski, I have deskbar-applet  and beagle installed, sure.
[09:47] <andrewski> mrproper: check the wiki for anything else?
[09:47] <dadgumit> I don't know how to ask  such an open ended question in a more direct manner
[09:48] <DvlynSyde> how do i get wireless internet working in ubuntu? i put in the essid and password.. and.. nothing
[09:48] <mrproper> andrewski, Which wiki
[09:48] <andrewski> mrproper: ubuntu's
[09:48] <andrewski> ubotu: tell mrproper about wiki
[09:48] <mrproper> andrewski, Uhhh...ubuntuguide?
[09:48] <sharms> andrewski: rhythmbox does audio, but K3B handles almost every kind of burning and mimics nero which most new users recognize
[09:48] <gnomefreak> remove deskbar-applet and type sudo aptitude install deskbar-applet
[09:48] <andrewski> gnomefreak: what's that do?
[09:48] <mrproper> gnomefreak, Does it need to reinstall?
[09:48] <gnomefreak> aptitude will install everything you need
[09:48] <dadgumit> how do i get x server to work?
[09:48] <RegalDrac> does ubuntu not have make
[09:49] <RegalDrac> ?
[09:49] <sharms> aptitude automatically installs the recommended packages along with it
[09:49] <RegalDrac> cause this program needs make to install
[09:49] <andrewski> ah, ok.
[09:49] <thejoe> just installed ubuntu.......its awesome..........howevr, whenever i minimize a progarm, it disappears (i am unable to see it minimized on the toolbar?)
[09:49] <kaot> dadgumit: have you tried threats?
[09:49] <gnomefreak> mrproper: aptitude will install suggested and recommended packages along with the package you want
[09:49] <kaot> wave a hammer around.  look really mad.
[09:49] <mrproper> gnomefreak, I have all the packages I want.
[09:49] <RegalDrac> DOES ubuntu HAVE make
[09:49] <dadgumit> kaot yes i have a magnet in my handnow
[09:49] <kaot> lol
[09:49] <yango> RegalDrac: YES
[09:49] <gnomefreak> mrproper: sudo apt-get remove deskbar-applet first though
[09:49] <DvlynSyde> how do i get wireless internet working in ubuntu? i put in the essid and password.. and.. nothing
[09:49] <andrewski> RegalDrac: build-essential
[09:49] <RegalDrac> andreweski how do i use it
[09:49] <andrewski> mrproper: it looks like python-beagle isn't installed by default; do you have that?
[09:49] <RegalDrac> when i do
[09:49] <RegalDrac> make
[09:49] <RegalDrac> nothen happens
[09:50] <andrewski> RegalDrac: dunno
[09:50] <kaot> RegalDrac: "nothing happens" is not an option.
[09:50] <RegalDrac> yango how do u use it
[09:50] <sharms> thejoe:  right click where you want it, click add to panel, and in the dialog pick "window list"
[09:50] <kaot> :\
[09:50] <mrproper> andrewski, No, I'm installing now.
[09:50] <andrewski> mrproper: exactly. :)
[09:50] <RegalDrac>  make
[09:50] <RegalDrac> bash: make: command not found
[09:50] <RegalDrac> see
[09:50] <kaot> RegalDrac: there ya go.  sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[09:50] <yango> you use it as you use every make... your problem is probably not with ubuntu... btw, what exactly is "nothing"?
[09:50] <dadgumit> meh, ubuntu is supposed to be all clean and friendly this is worse than any install idid 6 years ago
[09:50] <andrewski> RegalDrac: did you install build-essential?
[09:50] <thejoe> sharms: thank you  :)
[09:50] <sharms> !tell DvlynSyde about networkmanager
[09:50] <sharms> thejoe: np
[09:50] <sktx> sound is borked and i have no alsa option in the gnome mixer.. anyone have any clue how to get it back
[09:51] <RegalDrac> E: Couldn't find package build-essentials
[09:51] <kaot> dadgumit: yeah I had my fair share of irritations getting mine up.  Gentoo stage 1 was easier, I think.  Which is BAD.
[09:51] <sharms> dadgumit: you need to state your problem
[09:51] <andrewski> RegalDrac: read that again. :-P
[09:51] <andrewski> sktx: try alsamixer from the command line?
[09:51] <dr_willis> build-essential
[09:51] <RegalDrac> i copyed what that guy posted
[09:51] <dionnow> I would have to say that ubutu is way simple as far as general usage
[09:51] <kaot> maybe I exaggerate a little...
[09:51] <andrewski> RegalDrac: read what i posted.
[09:51] <kaot> hehe
[09:51] <kaot> corporal nobby nobbs?
[09:51] <sharms> dadgumit: State your problem and we may be able to help.
[09:51] <SurfnKid> um
[09:51] <Nobbs> Hey
[09:52] <SurfnKid> how do i blacklist the bcm43xx so it stops loading
[09:52] <sktx> hrm andrewski that got it back alright :) thanx
[09:52] <dadgumit> sharms: X not working, no screens found, have reconfigged manually everything looks good afaict looking for more ideas on what to try next
[09:52] <SurfnKid> Im on Dapper
[09:52] <sharms> dadgumit: which brand of card?
[09:52] <kaot> SurfnKid: edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and add "blacklist bcm43xx" to the end of that list
[09:52] <finalbeta> !tar.Z
[09:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about tar.Z
[09:52] <dadgumit> sharms: x800xl ATI
[09:52] <sharms> dadgumit: install fglrx yet?
[09:52] <SurfnKid> kaot, thx
[09:52] <Nobbs> I'm taking some screenshots (for bragging purposes ;)), including some with mplayer running. However, I just get a black screen in the mplayer window. Is there a way to capture a video frame in the screenshot?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> !tar > finalbeta
[09:52] <dionnow> I still have mostly no idea how to perform basic tasks on this yet..lol
[09:53] <andrewski> Nobbs: what are you using for it?
[09:53] <andrewski> dionnow: like what?
[09:53] <kaot> Nobbs: yes.  Do I remember how to do it?  No.  lol
[09:53] <Nobbs> andrewski, just the built-in ubuntu thing, what pops up when I hit print screen
[09:53] <dadgumit> sharms: hold, having faint memories of that and need to look at my notes (been a few days troubleshooting on/off)
[09:53] <gnomefreak> brb work to do :(
[09:53] <dionnow> At this point mostly trying to install software.
[09:53] <Nobbs> kaot, hehehe ;)
[09:53] <andrewski> Nobbs: try installing imagemagick and using import from the command line?
[09:53] <Nobbs> hmm
[09:54] <untu> what is the name of the package for the latest version of gtk+
[09:54] <Nobbs> cool, I'll try that
[09:54] <sharms> !tell dadgumit about fglrx
[09:54] <finalbeta> gnomefreak, file-roller doesn't support that type. tar.Z
[09:54] <SurfnKid> kaot, do ya know where i can change the shortcuts for Compiz?
[09:54] <firstc624> just another question.  what is a good solid video playing app that will play just about any video format you throw at it.  I have used videoLan on the windows side, i know that is is ported from linux, but was wondering if there was a better one or if it is really user opinion
[09:54] <andrewski> untu: libgtk something
[09:54] <kaot> andrewski: i could be off base here, but I think it has to do with what's being used as video output driver
[09:54] <amx> has anyone here tried this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[09:54] <amx> upgrading alsa on dapper...
[09:54] <kaot> SurfnKid: never used compiz
[09:55] <SurfnKid> oh i see, ill look up some info
[09:55] <SurfnKid> gonna reboot n see if this worked thx
[09:55] <untu> dangit! then i have the most recent version.... why doesn't synaptic work?
[09:55] <nate_02631> Hey all - wonder if someone had the answer to a quick GNOME question. I have my Apps menu in a bottom panel (brainwashed by Windows). Occasionally, when I click on the root items to open the menus, the menus have scroll arrows on the tops and bottoms and don't display all the items unless you use the scroll arrows. Anyone else experiencing this?
[09:55] <dadgumit> sharms: thnx reading
[09:55] <nate_02631> Tried over in desktop chat but no one home :)
[09:55] <kaot> andrewski: i used to use import for my screenshots, and it grabbed the mplayer screen, and then it didn't, and then i got it to work again messing with mplayer.  this was years ago tho
[09:55] <kaot> my memory may be broken
[09:55] <andrewski> kaot: dunno
[09:55] <firstc624> here is a real newb question.   dapper...what is it?
[09:56] <kaot> dapper is what I am, in addition to suave.
[09:56] <yango> the name of the current version of ubuntu
[09:56] <andrewski> ubotu: tell firstc624 about dapper
[09:56] <untu> gah: (synaptic:4921): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: (why not, i have the most recent gtk!
[09:56] <abstractism> hey guys
[09:56] <firstc624> ll
[09:56] <dionnow> Dumb question but....How do I get a User list in this XChat
[09:56] <jeff_banks> hello. Armagetron has frozen again. Is there any other shortcut keys i could try ive Ctrl + Alt + Backspace but that not working.
[09:56] <kaot> heh
[09:56] <SonicChao> dionnow: ask in #xchat
[09:56] <dionnow> lol, yea thank ya
[09:57] <kaot> ok
[09:57] <kaot> time to split
[09:57] <firstc624> andrewski what was that supposed to do?
[09:57] <abstractism> does anyone know much about CUPS and dapper support for canon printers?
[09:57] <SonicChao> !anyone abstractism
[09:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about anyone abstractism
[09:57] <Nobbs> andrewski, I tried import -window root screenshot.jpg, and this gave me the same results as before: a black mplayer :\
[09:57] <untu> anyone have any idea why synaptic won't run?
[09:57] <SonicChao> !anyone > abstractism
[09:57] <andrewski> Nobbs: ok, dunno.
[09:57] <dr_willis> abstractism,  could check  cups.org and see if your specific printer is supported.
[09:57] <SonicChao> !anyone
[09:57] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:57] <lecaros> dionnow try /who #channel
[09:57] <dr_willis> abstractism,  i got one thats not. :(
[09:57] <andrewski> !dapper
[09:57] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[09:57] <andrewski> firstc624: ^
[09:57] <cyphir> !compiz
[09:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:57] <yango> kaot: you are missing the --> broke
[09:58] <Nobbs> !screenshot
[09:58] <ubotu> Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr]  button or the file -> acquire menu in the Gimp. Screenshots can be posted on the !pastebin
[09:58] <firstc624> lol gottcha.
[09:58] <zybrid_> i love dapper!
[09:58] <Nobbs> .. I'll try the gimp then
[09:58] <Nobbs> :p
[09:58] <abstractism> dr_willis: where is the list? I'm there now and the site isn't very clear on whats supported and what isn't
[09:58] <dionnow> thank ya lecaros
[09:58] <firstc624> i was confused if it was something was udated or what so i just wanted to make sure..lol
[09:58] <kaot> yango:  neg.  beer gives me Teh Mad Poker Skillz.  Yo.  Or some such.  I play better drunk, is what I'm trying to say.
[09:58] <cyphir> !stupid
[09:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about stupid
[09:58] <kaot> anyway gotta run
[09:59] <abstractism> oh wait, its probably in 'printer drivers'
[09:59] <jeff_banks> !frozen
[09:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about frozen
[09:59] <abstractism> nm
[09:59] <dadgumit> sharms: I tried install xorg-driver-fglrx and E: couldn't find package xorg-driver-fglrx
[09:59] <yango> !know
[09:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about know
[09:59] <jeff_banks> !shortcut keys
[09:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about shortcut keys
[09:59] <Warbo> dadgumit: Try launching aptitude instead of apt-get, then you can search with /
[09:59] <linux_noob> what was the command to install a debian package
[09:59] <l_r> hello
[09:59] <dadgumit> warbo: will do thanks
[09:59] <jeff_banks> dpkg
[10:00] <Warbo> linux_noob: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[10:00] <lecaros> linux_noob dpkg -i package
[10:00] <andrewski> linux_noob: which one?
[10:00] <abstractism> meh, looks like canon printers aren't supported at all
[10:00] <sharms> dadgumit - you need to add universe and multiverse
[10:00] <linux_noob> okay
[10:00] <linux_noob> no i know
[10:00] <linux_noob> thank youj
[10:00] <l_r> is there any change to get a 2.6.17 kernel for ubuntu?
[10:00] <Tonren> hey, can anyone link me to an example of a "complete" sources.list?  one with universe, multiverse, etc.?
[10:00] <Warbo> l_r: kernel.org?
[10:00] <dadgumit> sharms, believe i pulledboth in
[10:00] <Spy_> hey do you guys know of a program that is similiar to dreamweaver for linux?
[10:00] <l_r> waern, i meant to say aa .deb package
[10:00] <l_r> Warbo, *
[10:00] <liran_> is the 2.6.15-22-686 kernel from dapper comes with mpppe support?
[10:01] <jeff_banks> blender
[10:01] <gnomefreak> l_r: not a stable 2.6.17.deb'
[10:01] <dr_willis> abstractism,  cups site has a search engine and a large list,  just gotta look for it i guess. :P i dident find it too hard to find.
[10:01] <RegalDrac> ok
[10:01] <keiron> Hi. Has anyone here had any luck transferring files from a nokia 6680 to ubuntu 6.06 using USB?
[10:01] <RegalDrac> i installed what u guys said
[10:01] <sharms> dadgumit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu  to double check that, then do a: sudo apt-get update, and then you can also do a 'apt-cache search fglrx' to see what FGLRX packages are available
[10:01] <RegalDrac> the build estinals
[10:01] <Warbo> l_r: I don't know of any (there are no official ones) but you could always Google (but I wouldn't trust someone else to build such an important package)
[10:01] <RegalDrac> here is the error i got
[10:01] <jeff_banks> blender is a 3d package
[10:01] <RegalDrac> make
[10:01] <RegalDrac> ( cd /src/moc && make )
[10:01] <RegalDrac> /bin/sh: line 0: cd: /src/moc: No such file or directory
[10:01] <RegalDrac> make: *** [/bin/moc]  Error 1
[10:01] <RegalDrac> thats the error :d
[10:01] <dionnow> So, if I have a new Ubuntu install, will it install the correct kernalfor a athlon chip, or would I need to find one specifically for it?
[10:01] <l_r> Warbo, me too..
[10:02] <crogue5> dionnow, findone
[10:02] <sharms> Warbo: use sudo apt-get install linux-k7  and reboot
[10:02] <andrewski> dionnow: if you use an amd disc, you should be fine.
[10:02] <crogue5> dionnow, in apt or synaptic
[10:02] <l_r> it will be unlikely to see 2.6.17 on dapper 6.06, right?
[10:02] <gnomefreak> l_r: you wont
[10:02] <RegalDrac> andrewski:  i installed it man it dident work
[10:02] <Warbo> sharms: That will get 2.6.17? :)
[10:02] <dionnow> so the k7 one is fine for an Athlon?
[10:02] <gnomefreak> l_r: you would have to compile it yourself
[10:03] <gnomefreak> Warbo: no
[10:03] <sharms> k7 is perfect for athlon
[10:03] <crogue5> dionnow, yes
[10:03] <untu> is there an fmod package for ubuntu?
[10:03] <l_r> gnomefreak, indeed. it's annoying
[10:03] <jeff_banks> bet ive got to power down again
[10:03] <Spy_> sorry, did anyone reply to my quick enquiry?
[10:03] <sharms> Warbo: that will get you 2.6.15.22  optimized for k7
[10:03] <gnomefreak> l_r: you dont want 2.6.17 in dapper
[10:03] <jeff_banks> yup me
[10:03] <Warbo> gnomefreak: He got the wrong guy, but I was answering a kernel question too :)
[10:03] <sharms> We cant include the newest kernels because of stability and testing
[10:03] <jeff_banks> spy_: blender is a 3d package
[10:03] <gnomefreak> l_r: 2.6.17 doesnt boot atm
[10:03] <sharms> You can compile your own kernel though and install that
[10:04] <dionnow> cool deal, thanks... and sorry for the ignorant questions... I'll be shelling out a good deal of them for a while i imagine
[10:04] <sharms> !kernel
[10:04] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:04] <Warbo> sharms: I think you want dionnow. I was discussing 2.6.17 with l_r :)
[10:04] <gnomefreak> it will with alot of work (easier to compile your own)
[10:04] <RegalDrac> how does a .pike file work
[10:04] <Spy_> damit!! argh
[10:04] <jeff_banks> ?
[10:05] <Spy_> hey please does any1 know how to remove the SHIFT + Backspace error?
[10:05] <Warbo> Spy_: nvu maybe
[10:05] <Spy_> please  icant stand it anymore, third time today
[10:05] <Spy_> nvu?
[10:05] <Warbo> Spy_: (for your fisrt question :) )
[10:05] <Spy_> oh. thanks
[10:05] <ubuntu> OLA
[10:05] <gnomefreak> !es
[10:05] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:05] <linopil> !hi sorry to bother with old hardware - vibra16x SB  - Logical device id CTL0043
[10:05] <linopil> already run pnpdump > isapnp.conf ... 1 )now what to uncomment in isapnp.conf and 2 ) /etc/init.d/isapnp scrript already there installed from debian http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/isapnptools ....
[10:05] <linopil> appreciate your help
[10:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about hi sorry to bother with old hardware - vibra16x SB  - Logical device id CTL0043
[10:06] <jeff_banks> you taste funny
[10:06] <ubuntu> alguem portugues.?
[10:06] <gnomefreak> !pt
[10:06] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[10:06] <TwYst> 0 ops?
[10:06] <ubuntu> fafiman.
[10:07] <ubuntu> alguem da fafiman.?
[10:07] <Spy_> please does any1 know of anyway to stop gnome from crashing when i press shitft+backspace?
[10:07] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: join #ubuntu-pt
[10:07] <dionnow> Ubota, were you telling me that its unnecessary to compile a differnt kernal?
[10:07] <linopil> hi sorry to bother with old hardware - vibra16x SB  - Logical device id CTL0043
[10:07] <linopil> (: already run pnpdump > isapnp.conf ... 1 )now what to uncomment in isapnp.conf and 2 ) /etc/init.d/isapnp scrript already there installed from debian http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/isapnptools ....
[10:07] <linopil> : appreciate your help
[10:07] <dionnow> that was from several minutes ago as well..
[10:07] <ubuntu> e ai cara.
[10:07] <gnomefreak> linopil: stop repeating yourself so often
[10:08] <sharms> Spy_: Is it a specific application or gnome itself?
[10:08] <Warbo> dionnow: If you install the -k7 kernel package then it is precompiled
[10:08] <dionnow> I savvy..
[10:08] <harmlessj> Hi there, i'm looking for help getting 5.1 channel sound working for playing DVDs
[10:08] <linopil> gnomefreak not so often only once and trying cleaner
[10:08] <Warbo> dionnow: Also, ubotu is a robot :)
[10:08] <harmlessj> I can't find any useful articles on how it works or how to test it
[10:08] <linopil> btw any suggestions ?
[10:08] <gnomefreak> !repeat > linopil
[10:09] <gnomefreak> linopil: read your pm
[10:09] <Spy_> gnome itself but i believe it hs something to do with xgl
[10:09] <gnomefreak> Spy_: it does
[10:09] <harmlessj> any pointers? I have an nforce2 motherboard, or could buy another soundcard if that's easiest
[10:09] <gnomefreak> Spy_: please see #ubuntu-xgl
[10:09] <TwYst> ok total linux noob here but i have managed to install ubuntu breezy and upgrade to dapper. being an irc kinda guy and knowing the windows version of mirc quite well i am wondering what kind of scripting i will need to know to make an auto join script to join channels on my net within x chat
[10:09] <Spy_> no one is in that channel btw
[10:09] <dionnow> haha, that would explain it
[10:09] <gnomefreak> Spy_: its one of the keybindings for xgl/compiz
[10:10] <linopil> I appreciate that what is the bot you sent me to PM gnomefreak ?
[10:10] <dionnow> When I insatll the k7 package is it necessary for me to uninstall any of the other packages?
[10:10] <linopil> is it !repeat > gnomefreak ?
[10:10] <Sly> i have plantronic headsets, and i cant seem to have my mic record things when i talk or use skype and i have plantronic headset selected as my sound otion and can play music and hear
[10:11] <gnomefreak> linopil: read your pm the bot already sent it to you
[10:11] <Sly> and im using zapping tv viewer and no sound is coming out when i watch tv
[10:11] <Servo888> resize_reiserfs -s -53G /dev/hda3 | I'm trying to resize my 73GB harddrive down to 53GB's. I have 32GB's free on the 73GB partition. But upon running that I get "resize_reiserfs: can't shrink fs; too many blocks already allocated"
[10:11] <Sly> but music,aim,msn and myspace sites work fine
[10:11] <Warbo> dionnow: Not really, but they will take up space and you will have a few different options in the GRUB boot menu
[10:12] <linopil> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=isapnp&titlesearch=%D7%9B%D7%95%D7%AA%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%AA gnomefreak zero results
[10:12] <ramblingturtle> hello everybody
[10:12] <RegalDrac> anyone here know a easy to use program to make avis to mpeg2
[10:12] <dionnow> Well thanks for all the help Warbo, I'll be back after a reboot.
[10:13] <Warbo> RegalDrac: mencoder (but the manual is HUGE) :)
[10:13] <linopil> IOW gnomefreak I know my q. is a tough one
[10:13] <TwYst> RegalDrac, i only know one for windows.. not linux yet
[10:13] <sharms> !tell TwYst  about offtopic
[10:13] <gnomefreak> linopil: what are you giving me a wiki link for?
[10:14] <RegalDrac> i need somethen easy
[10:14] <RegalDrac> cmon guys
[10:14] <RegalDrac> :d
[10:14] <ramblingturtle> after upgrading through the update manager I can't seem to access my dvdrom or cdrom and even after inserting blank media into both of the drives I am still getting the message saying no media is in device all I am trying to do is burn the ubuntu cd I have download so that I can see if installing that way fixes my problems any help would be great
[10:14] <RegalDrac> iv found alot of programs but i cant get make to work
[10:14] <sharms> RegalDrac: try #mplayer
[10:14] <linopil> and 1 more btw, 809 ppl in room, crowdy
[10:14] <Tom7e> what is the command to clear the terminal screen?
[10:14] <Servo888> ahh crap - this sucks.. honestly.
[10:15] <Sly> i have plantronic headsets, and i cant seem to have my mic record things when i talk or use skype and i have plantronic headset selected as my sound otion and can play music and hear
[10:15] <TwYst> sharms, considering i am still waiting for a reply to my origional question relating to the dapper version of ubuntu i thought i would be nice and try to give someone else a hand
[10:15] <RememberPOL> Hey is there a way to permanently set a DHCP interface's MTU property to 1492 instead of 1500 on Dapper Drake?
[10:15] <gnomefreak> Tom7e: clear
[10:15] <Servo888> Sly, we're not blind - we saw your post. could be nobody knows the answer. Try #alsa
[10:15] <Warbo> RegalDrac: mecoder is easy: "mencoser -oac <whatever audio out you want> -ovc <whatever video out you want> -<video type>opts option1=value1,option2=value2,etc. -<audio type>opts option1=value1,option2=value2,etc -o <output filename> <inputfile> Simple :)
[10:16] <RegalDrac> the avi has the auto in it
[10:16] <sharms> ramblingturtle - have you tried rebooting since upgrade/
[10:16] <ApocalypticOni> i have been hving trouble with my mouse, because it doesnt update its position often enough. i was told that to fix it i'd need to edit xorg.conf, but notwhat to edit. what should i change? (sry im a n00b)
[10:16] <ramblingturtle> sharms: yes i upgrading a couple weeks ago then had to leave town for awhile now I am working on my system again
[10:16] <Warbo> RegalDrac: Yes, an AVI has audio in it. It also has video in it, since AVI is just a container, which may contain DivX, XVid, MP3, etc.
[10:17] <sharms> ApocalypticOni: which kind of mouse?
[10:17] <ApocalypticOni> usb optical
[10:17] <sharms> ramblingturtle: what happens when you go to places -> cd/dvd creator
[10:17] <sharms> ApocalypticOni: brand?
[10:17] <ApocalypticOni> no idea
[10:17] <ramblingturtle> sharms: permissions are denied to both devices
[10:17] <ApocalypticOni> i got it at a garage sale cuz it was glowey
[10:18] <macozz> Hello!
[10:18] <macozz> I need help with a Kingston pen drive....
[10:18] <sharms> ramblingturtle: System -> Administration -> Users and Groups -> Your username -> User Privledges -> Check use CDROM drives
[10:18] <ApocalypticOni> i can dig out an old dell one but i dont wanna
[10:18] <sharms> ApocalypticOni - is it usb?
[10:19] <DvlynSyde> wireless help > couldn't install Network Manager > all programs in add/remove say "Not available on any software channel. Application might not support your system architecture"
[10:19] <ApocalypticOni> yes
[10:19] <linopil> anybody knows how to uncomment isapnp.conf lines?
[10:19] <MystaMax> I'm getting an error when trying to mount a partition, it states, "mount: you must specify the filesystem type". I'm typing,  "sudo mount /dev/sda5/ /home/mystamax/vmware/" whats going on???
[10:19] <linopil> !isapnp
[10:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about isapnp
[10:19] <sharms> ApocalypticOni: Find the brand: 'dmesg | grep input'
[10:19] <orcdestroyer> anyone knows some software to test my HD?
[10:19] <linopil> isapnp forgotten - (old issue)
[10:19] <macozz> It is note recognized by Dapped if I plug it with the computer already on... but it IS recognized if I boot the computer with it plugged...
[10:20] <sharms> MystaMax: You must specify the filesystem type.
[10:20] <ramblingturtle> sharms: that is already checked and still dosn't work
[10:20] <linopil> orcdestroyer mhdd
[10:20] <Warbo> MystaMax: try using sda5 instead of sda5/? (that's all I can think)
[10:20] <linopil> wait for link
[10:20] <masterofallarts> What is the kde equivalent to the gnome settings daemon?
[10:20] <Basilio> does ubuntu has a form of system restore
[10:20] <Warbo> masterofallarts: I think QT configs are always used
[10:20] <sharms> ramblingturtle: how about cd /media/cdrom
[10:20] <masterofallarts> hm
[10:20] <macozz> after that, if I eject the pen drive it is not longer recongnized...
[10:20] <Basilio> to the state when i first installed it
[10:20] <ApocalypticOni> sharms: sunbeam
[10:21] <masterofallarts> what happens is that gnomesettingsdaemon could not be started for some reason.
[10:21] <masterofallarts> well... how to list all running processes?
[10:21] <Warbo> masterofallarts: ps ax
[10:21] <ramblingturtle> sharms: i can cd into directory
[10:21] <unstablesob> masterofallarts: check that your time is set correctly, i've had it bomb out on me for that reason
[10:21] <masterofallarts> Warbo: thx. it is already running.
[10:22] <linopil> google mhdd
[10:22] <masterofallarts> but listen, people: i want to adjust mouse resolution.
[10:22] <ApocalypticOni> sharms, its a fireline usb optical
[10:22] <masterofallarts> in xorg.conf, thats possible
[10:23] <macozz> It seems that others have experienced similar problem with Kingston pen drives... some body here know something about that?
[10:23] <ramblingturtle> sharms: the problem is that I can't burn the iso because after I put in blank media I get a mesg saying that there is no media in device or that I do not have permission for said device
[10:23] <zybrid_> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running  kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[10:23] <masterofallarts> but gnomesettingsdaemon overrides these settings!
[10:23] <Basilio> does ubuntu has a form of system restore
[10:23] <zybrid_> where?
[10:23] <masterofallarts> wheee
[10:23] <sharms> ramblingturtle: is it possible that it is the media itself?
[10:23] <MystaMax> Warbo, that worked, i appreciate your help!
[10:24] <Warbo> MystaMax: NP, I was suprised it was something so small
[10:24] <ramblingturtle> sharms: no because I have gone through several discs all of which are blank and have worked before but that would make this much easier if it where
[10:24] <Servo888> Anybody know what tools to use to resize a reiser partition...?
[10:24] <DvlynSyde> wireless help > couldn't install Network Manager > all programs in add/remove say "Not available on any software channel. Application might not support your system architecture"
[10:24] <masterofallarts> in what file does gnome-mouse-settings store its conf?
[10:25] <Afief> I have already tried to install twice from the Desktop CD, both times it stopped at the "configuring APT, scanning mirror" part. is there a solution for this?
[10:25] <ramblingturtle> sharms: is there anyway to force a burn to disc so that way I can reinstall
[10:25] <Warbo> Servo888: GParted? (or else "ls /sbin/*fs*")
[10:25] <dribble> wow, mono develop is quite the ide.
[10:25] <ApocalypticOni> i have been hving trouble with my mouse, because it doesnt update its position often enough. i was told that to fix it i'd need to edit xorg.conf, but notwhat to edit. what should i change? (sry im a n00b) its a sunbeam usb optical mouse
[10:26] <MystaMax> warbo, yea its weird. I've had weird problems w/ this partition, gparted states its a ext3 partition but the "disk" application states its an NTFS partition.... weird
[10:26] <newbuntu> hi, im typing this from my linux handheld  archos, which i got to run irc
[10:26] <newbuntu> its awesome
[10:27] <SonicChao> newbuntu: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:27] <J-_> what's the command to verify you're SU, so i can can write to folders?
[10:27] <Servo888> Warbo, I don't have gparted - and the only sbin tool I found was resize_reiser which failed.
[10:27] <SonicChao> newbuntu: this is for support. is something now working?
[10:27] <sharms> ramblingturtle - does cdrdao scanbus   provide additional information
[10:27] <Afief> I have already tried to install twice from the Desktop CD, both times it stopped at the "configuring APT, scanning mirror" part. is there a solution for this?
[10:27] <RegalDrac> someone help me
[10:27] <RegalDrac> im tierd of waittin g:d
[10:27] <RegalDrac> [mpeg4 @ 0x8336308] marker does not match f_code
[10:27] <RegalDrac> whats that mean when using ffmpeg
[10:28] <sharms> ramblingturtle: also cdrdao disk-info
[10:28] <newbuntu> its okay to say hi?
[10:28] <dr_willis> sounds like a error in the video file.
[10:28] <SonicChao> RegalDrac: If you're tired of waiting, pay for support
[10:28] <Warbo> RegalDrac: If you want some GUI thing then try synaptic's search or gnomefiles.org
[10:28] <SonicChao> newbuntu: yes...but that was...really offtopic.
[10:28] <[sYn] > Is there a way to set my hostname (eg, the hostname shown when you whois me) to be that of my owned domain rather than the ISP hostname.. ?
[10:28] <RegalDrac> whos asking for a gui
[10:28] <RegalDrac> i just asked
[10:28] <RegalDrac> sonic shut up :/
[10:28] <Jowi> ApocalypticOni: USB mouse poll time is hardware based afaik. serial mice can set the baud rate but that
[10:28] <macozz> Nobody knows something about my Kingston pen drive question?
[10:28] <Jowi> s about it
[10:29] <DvlynSyde> i needwireless help. was told to install Network Manager but all programs in add/remove say "Not available on any software channel. Application might not support your system architecture"
[10:29] <ramblingturtle> sharms: when I try to run that command I get an error it seems to be trying to scan a harddrive instead of cdrom
[10:29] <ApocalypticOni> jowi: so what you're saying is that theres no way to fix my problem?
[10:30] <sharms> ramblingturtle: it may do that at first, but near the end of the input should be real data
[10:30] <Afief> I have already tried to install twice from the Desktop CD, both times it stopped at the "configuring APT, scanning mirror" part. is there a solution for this?
[10:31] <Jowi> ApocalypticOni: I don't see any xorg.conf options for it at least.
[10:31] <Servo888> resize_reiserfs: can't shrink fs; too many blocks already allocated | that's my issue.
[10:31] <ramblingturtle> sharms: it did list info in the end like the device names but I am not sure what I am looking at
[10:31] <angasule> I have followed the guide to installing the proprietary nvidia drivers without luck, I'm thinking it's related to the k7 kernel I installed, I've searched and researched but I haven't found a solution
[10:31] <Jowi> ApocalypticOni: ah, wait!
[10:31] <ApocalypticOni> jowi: do you know of any other ways to edit the mouse settings?
[10:32] <adelfino> hi, can I use Epiphany 2.14.2.1 in Ubuntu 6.06?
[10:32] <Jowi> ApocalypticOni: just found Option "SampleRate" and Option "Resolution" here: http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/mouse.4.html
[10:32] <Warbo> angasule: I use module-assistant to build the driver (I have heard that the guide is a bit dodgy)
[10:32] <SurfnKid> What does F9 do in XGL/Compiz?
[10:32] <DvlynSyde> i love being ignored.
[10:32] <dribble> is NFS usually realllly slow?  my throughput is like 9.2kbps
[10:33] <Foobal> dribble: no.
[10:33] <sharms> ramblingturtle: when I put in blank media and run the disk-info, it immediately shows me the capacity and if the cd is empty.  When I run the same command with no disk in the drive or media that isnt blank, it then gives me a list of things its trying, such as the other harddrive
[10:33] <ApocalypticOni> jowi: thanks, i'll try to figure it out from here on
[10:33] <dribble> Foobal, hmmmm
[10:33] <Jowi> ApocalypticOni: it does not say if USB mice are supported though. you can always try
[10:33] <dribble> Foobal, any suggestions?
[10:33] <sharms> ramblingturtle: best I can recommend at this point is boot off knoppix or a ubuntu live cd, and see if they can read your blank media and burn the dapper iso
[10:34] <sharms> ApocalypticOni: Can you tell us what driver your mouse is using currently?  It is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and would be labelled as ConfiguredMouse
[10:34] <ramblingturtle> sharms: ok thanks I will see if I have something that will work
[10:34] <sharms> Good luck
[10:35] <orcdestroyer> how can I test the smartclt?
[10:35] <angasule> Warbo: got any guide for that? http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html   seems to be it, but for debian, I'm unsure if that's ok for this particular problem
[10:35] <sharms> angasule, just trying to install nvidia drivers?
[10:35] <Foobal> orcdestroyer: sudo smartctl -t long /dev/hda (or whatever your hard disk device is)
[10:36] <DvlynSyde> i needwireless help. was told to install Network Manager but all programs in add/remove say "Not available on any software channel. Application might not support your system architecture"
[10:36] <angasule> sharms: yes, but I installed the k7 kernel
[10:36] <orcdestroyer> Foobal It doesn't show up the option -t
[10:36] <sharms> angasule, the precompiled nvidia drivers work perfectly with linux-k7
[10:36] <sharms> angasule, when you install linux-k7, the modules that were compiled for k7 are also installed
[10:36] <MystaMax> when mounting a drive and restarting my computer, my changes dont seem to stick. why is that?
[10:37] <sharms> !tell MystaMax about fstab
[10:37] <angasule> sharms: I followed the nvidia driver guide at the wiki, and it didn't work.
[10:37] <sharms> angasule - how about just apt-get install nvidia-glx, then edit xorg and replace nv with nvidia?
[10:38] <Warbo> angasule: I usually so "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-headers-`uname -r`" then "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx module-assistant nvidia-kernel-source" then run "sudo m-a" and it is pretty straightforward from that point
[10:38] <sharms> Warbo: why module-assistant and kernel-source?
[10:38] <sharms> Warbo: nvidia already exists in restricted?
[10:38] <RegalDrac> hey
[10:38] <RegalDrac> im having a error with make
[10:38] <RegalDrac> i need help
[10:38] <sintryx> can anyone explain what this means "In Ubuntu 6.06, make sure you added the Universe and Multiverse repositories and install the package gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly."
[10:39] <RegalDrac>  make
[10:39] <RegalDrac> ( cd /src/moc && make )
[10:39] <RegalDrac> /bin/sh: line 0: cd: /src/moc: No such file or directory
[10:39] <RegalDrac> make: *** [/bin/moc]  Error 1
[10:39] <angasule> Warbo: thanks, I'll try that
[10:39] <adelfino> RegalDrac, try: cd src/moc && make
[10:39] <sharms> sintryx, System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager->Settings->Repositories
[10:39] <ApocalypticOni> is there a default root password and if so what is it?
[10:39] <Warbo> sharms: I find module-assistant the easiest way to build the driver, and the restricted is a dependancy of the nvidia-glx, but if you don't have the right k7 ones installed before apt-getting nvidia-glx then it ends up dragging in linux-image-xxxxx-386 and linux-restricted-modules-xxxxx-386
[10:39] <RegalDrac> dident work ade
[10:40] <ApocalypticOni> or can i disable read-only from my admin-lefel account?
[10:40] <sharms> Warbo: Odd I have the drivers working just by getting nvidia-glx, then changing nv to nvidia
[10:40] <Warbo> ApocalypticOni: Read-only on what?
[10:40] <sharms> with the linux-k7 kernel installed
[10:40] <dionnow> How would I go about closing X server and then getting to a command prompt?
[10:40] <ApocalypticOni> xorg.conf\
[10:40] <sharms> dionnow - ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:41] <dionnow> thank ya much
[10:41] <DvlynSyde> i needwireless help. was told to install Network Manager but all programs in add/remove say "Not available on any software channel. Application might not support your system architecture"
[10:41] <Warbo> ApocalypticOni: It is write-enabled for the owner, so just use sudo
[10:41] <DvlynSyde> everyone is getting help. except me
[10:41] <sintryx> sharms:  now what? =\
[10:41] <sharms> check the appropriate repositiories
[10:41] <sharms> then update the repositories
[10:41] <ApocalypticOni> warbo: do i log on under thaty name?
[10:41] <sharms> then search for ugly
[10:41] <sharms> check the box
[10:41] <echeese> Woo.
[10:41] <sharms> tell it to install
[10:41] <echeese> Finally got Ubuntu installed.
[10:41] <Warbo> !tell ApocalypticOni about root
[10:41] <sintryx> kk ill try that
[10:42] <sharms> echeese: congratulations
[10:42] <echeese> <-- First linux
[10:42] <keithg> Echeese, Congratulations!
[10:42] <sharms> echeese: remember you will need to invest a little time, because some things work differently, but not worse
[10:42] <DvlynSyde> i needwireless help. was told to install Network Manager but all programs in add/remove say "Not available on any software channel. Application might not support your system architecture"
[10:42] <SurfnKid> anyone know how to do a printscreen while moving the XGL cube
[10:42] <echeese> I may miss some of my apps though :/
[10:42] <sintryx> excellent, ty sharms.
[10:42] <sharms> echeese: besides counterstrike I cant find any
[10:43] <sharms> sintryx: np :)
[10:43] <echeese> I use photoshop and flash on a daily basis
[10:43] <sharms> echeese: I still have flash (the client viewer atleast) and gimp works excellent for photo editing,  You will probably like it more after while
[10:43] <echeese> Photoshop 4 :P
[10:43] <sharms> echeese: and if they are must need applications, wine supports them decently
[10:44] <chuck> hello, I instaled fglrx  drivers and fglrxinfo just says bus error anyone wanna point me to a tutorial ?
[10:44] <Jowi> !ati
[10:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:44] <morten_> I have trouble running bzflag under 64 bit ubuntu 6.06
[10:44] <morten_> Help is requested.
[10:44] <morten_> !bzflag
[10:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about bzflag
[10:45] <edgy> Hi, I want to use rosetta from my local projects, how can I get it? how much is it?
[10:45] <dash`> !girls
[10:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about girls
[10:45] <dash`> me too
[10:45] <blaze> i know that this question is not at all for this channel but
[10:45] <spangley234> !cheese
[10:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about cheese
[10:45] <blaze> how is the word "intricasy" pronouced?
[10:45] <morten_> dash`, try next time at the disco .. ask a girl "kick me in the balls or dance with me", then spread legs and smile suggestively.
[10:45] <kbrooks> edgy: its free. you can enable it'
[10:46] <Afief> echeese: there is flash for linux, and GIMP did everything for me that photoshop did
[10:46] <morten_> dash`, Maybe you get lucky ... either way, you'll be wiser on girls.
[10:46] <dash`> I've tried that
[10:46] <blaze> i mean.. is it i`ntricasy or is it intr`icasy
[10:46] <dash`> I've had some semi-psycho ex's in the past
[10:46] <morten_> dash`, you did already?
[10:46] <Afief> echeese: if there is a particular thing missing of course you can request it(and tell them how important this is for everybody)
[10:46] <[sYn] > Afief: Flash for linux?
[10:46] <dash`> a few of them have tried that, 'twas amusing
[10:46] <jeff_banks> Is there any other shortcut keys i could try ive Ctrl + Alt + Backspace but that not working.
[10:46] <SurfnKid> echeese, welcome to the underground world of the real thinkers
[10:46] <SurfnKid> :P
[10:46] <morten_> dash`, Oh .. don't do it on x's .. thats plain embarashing.
[10:46] <edgy> kbrooks: enable it? what do u mean?
[10:47] <Jowi> jeff_banks: to restart X? try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[10:47] <echeese> I've already got VMWare server with XP in it
[10:47] <SurfnKid> oh and there's no such thing as a dumb question
[10:47] <morten_> SurfnKid, Are you sure?
[10:47] <edgy> kbrooks: I need to download it to my local server
[10:47] <chuck> does xgl/compiz work with the open radeon driver  ?
[10:47] <kbrooks> edgy: download what
[10:47] <morten_> chuck, how do I test xgl?
[10:47] <chuck> or fdo you have to have 95xx or above ?
[10:47] <jeff_banks> jowi: all can do is move the mouse
[10:47] <dash`> anybody know of a good app or something that monitors hardware [like temperatures, fan speeds, etc]  ?
[10:47] <jeff_banks> *all i
[10:47] <sharms> I actually prefer gimp now, just because with photoshop I never had a legal version, and gimp was very straight forward with tons of good tutorials at http://www.gimptalk.com/
[10:47] <morten_> dash`, gkrellm
[10:48] <edgy> kbrooks: download rosetta code
[10:48] <morten_> dash`, if you have a fetish for gnome, that is.
[10:48] <kbrooks> edgy: link to rosetta?
[10:48] <jc-denton> hi all
[10:48] <jc-denton> i use FF with aoss
[10:48] <morten_> dash`, though it works quite well with WindowMaker as well.
[10:48] <sharms> hello.
[10:48] <jc-denton> but it crashes so much
[10:48] <jc-denton> any other options how i can use FF with flash and sound?
[10:48] <Jowi> jeff_banks: ouch. if you have a soft-power-switch, press it and a shutdown will be initiated
[10:49] <morten_> dash`, are you from the bronx?
[10:49] <ismael_> ola sou usuario novo do buntu
[10:49] <jeff_banks> ah bum dont have one
[10:49] <SurfnKid> chuck,  i have 9600 and i just got it running today, XGL that is
[10:49] <edgy> kbrooks: https://launchpad.net/rosetta
[10:49] <dash`> morten_ :: no...?
[10:49] <morten_> dash`, just wondering.
[10:49] <SurfnKid> dash`, gkrellm monitors stuff
[10:49] <Shizboom> !rosetta
[10:49] <morten_> dash`, where you from then?
[10:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about rosetta
[10:49] <jeff_banks> cheer anyways
[10:50] <morten_> !64bit
[10:50] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[10:50] <morten_> !emt64
[10:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about emt64
[10:50] <morten_> !amd46
[10:50] <Jowi> jeff_banks: ctl-alt-f1 works? if it does, afte ryou get a prompt, press ctrl-alt-del to reboot
[10:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about amd46
[10:50] <morten_> !amd64
[10:50] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[10:50] <SurfnKid> does anyone know how to PrintScreen while rotating XGL cube
[10:50] <ApocalypticOni> how do i open xorg.conf with sudo?
[10:50] <superm1> could someone tell me if its possible to determine the type of dye used on a DVDR or CDR using linux utilities at all?
[10:50] <thejoe> is there anything i can do to make GAIM a bit sexier?   i have been unable to find skins for it.   Does installing a new GTK engine change anything?
[10:51] <edgy> ApocalypticOni: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:51] <sharms> superm1: not sure but you can try cdrdao disk-info
[10:51] <Jowi> superm1: dye?
[10:51] <superm1> http://users.utu.fi/ljtaim/dapper-improvments.php
[10:51] <superm1> yes
[10:51] <superm1> for thejoe
[10:51] <morten_> ubotu: amd64 is also a lot of trouble .. new users should deffo go with 32 bit for now, if they want to watch avi-files and surf newer flash pages.
[10:51] <superm1> some brands use different dye's for creating the blank disk
[10:51] <jeff_banks> jowi: na tried that :( guess ill have to wire up a soft reboot button
[10:51] <morten_> ubotu, amd64 is also a lot of trouble .. new users should deffo go with 32 bit for now, if they want to watch avi-files and surf newer flash pages.
[10:52] <kbrooks> edgy: the rosetta code is secret
[10:52] <morten_> How do I do that?
[10:52] <superm1> thanks sharms
[10:52] <edgy> kbrooks: I thought it's a commercial project not a secret project
[10:52] <kbrooks> edgy: i said the code, not rosetta
[10:52] <ApocalypticOni> edgy: i'm sorry, but where do i type that?
[10:52] <morten_> Carmen-, can I help you, please?
[10:53] <Carmen-> :D
[10:53] <thejoe> superml: thanx
[10:53] <edgy> ApocalypticOni: on that black box called a terminal
[10:53] <Tom7e> what is the prefered firewall software?
[10:53] <Carmen-> morten_ find me a fluxbox menufile
[10:53] <Carmen-> morten_ one in http://fluxbox.org/zoom.php?shots-dev/majes_fluxbox.jpg
[10:53] <Carmen-> its what i want :[
[10:53] <morten_> Carmen-, I am on it.
[10:53] <Carmen-> thanks
[10:53] <edgy> kbrooks: yes as far as I know they sell the code, no?
[10:54] <Carmen-> anyone know if theres root-tail binaries for ubuntu?
[10:54] <jeff_banks> jowi: cheers again
[10:54] <morten_> Carmen-, Is this link helpfull? http://blogostuff.blogspot.com/2004/10/hacking-fluxbox-menu.html
[10:54] <superm1> sharms, I can't get an exclusive lock on the drive even with sudo, do I have to leave gnome to do this?
[10:54] <superm1> Error trying to open /dev/dvdrw exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second.
[10:55] <Carmen-> morten_ i want to download already done menufile :-D
[10:55] <Carmen-> so i dont need to make one myself
[10:55] <morten_> ahh .. I see
[10:55] <SurfnKid> whats good to burn DVD's and CDs in Dapper
[10:55] <morten_> Carmen-, and you want it to be exactly as the one on the screenshot?
[10:55] <saxin> SurfnKid, k3b
[10:55] <DvlynSyde> i needwireless help. was told to install Network Manager but all programs in add/remove say "Not available on any software channel. Application might not support your system architecture"
[10:55] <kern_malloc> Tom7e: iptables
[10:56] <Carmen-> morten_ pretty much
[10:56] <zybrid_> How do i unrar multiple rar-files? is there a program like winrar?
[10:56] <Carmen-> morten_ atleast close
[10:56] <SurfnKid> saxin, cool
[10:56] <morten_> Carmen-, maybe you can get it at this email? majes@fpp.pl
[10:56] <DvlynSyde> why the heck am i being ignored?
[10:57] <morten_> Carmen-, or if you wait, I can try and extract it from the tar.bz2
[10:57] <gnomefreak> DvlynSyde: your not
[10:57] <Carmen-> morten_ the theme pack does not contain it
[10:57] <fire> Can anyone help me.. I am getting an error when trying to boot... ACPI: Looking for DSDT ... not found!
[10:57] <cjpro> 1337
[10:57] <gnomefreak> DvlynSyde: are you on 64bit or ppc?
[10:57] <DvlynSyde> 64bit
[10:58] <gnomefreak> DvlynSyde: it might not be built for 64bit
[10:58] <dash`> can this gkrellm be made part of a toolbar or something, instead of being a window by itself?
[10:58] <NickGarvey> dash`: you can dock it if you mean that
[10:59] <dr_willis> ive seen it docked in windowmaker i think and some other panels befor
[10:59] <dionnow> How do I completely close xserver and have a prompt, I'm attempting to install my display drivers
[10:59] <morten_> Carmen-, the cfg file contains the menu.
[10:59] <fire> Now everyone once in awhile if I just keep rebooting it will actually log in.. but it hardly ever will log in...
[10:59] <Carmen-> morten_ :o
[10:59] <dash`> NickGarvey :: yeh, something like that
[10:59] <morten_> Carmen-, Are you a suomi?
[10:59] <Carmen-> yes
[10:59] <Carmen-> i am
[10:59] <NickGarvey> dash`: theres an option
[10:59] <morten_> Cool :)
[10:59] <NickGarvey> dash`: skim around the config
[11:00] <morten_> Carmen-, I didn't know Carmen was a common name that far north, but then again, maybe it isn't?
[11:00] <klees> how can i tell what packages i have installed in my system?
[11:00] <DvlynSyde> the 64 bit has NOTHING that works on add/remove?
[11:00] <Carmen-> i dont think the .cfg contains the menu
[11:00] <DvlynSyde> or is it that i can't connect to internet?
[11:00] <morten_> Carmen-, You're right ...
[11:01] <Carmen-> i know i am
[11:01] <dionnow> How do I completely close xserver and have a prompt?
[11:01] <Carmen-> its that guys own menu
[11:01] <morten_> Carmen-, on a closer look .. it only contains the look of the menu .. not the menu items .. sorry .
[11:01] <morten_> Carmen-, best shot might be the email I provided.
[11:01] <klees> is there a way for me to get a list of installed programs?
[11:01] <morten_> klees, yes.
[11:02] <klees> and that is?
[11:02] <dr_willis> dionnow,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop          (shhould totally kill off X)
[11:02] <morten_> klees, depends on your system, I guess.
[11:02] <klees> i would like to throw the output to a file
[11:02] <klees> i have Ubuntu
[11:02] <dionnow> As well as leave me with a command prompt?
[11:02] <SurfnKid> I have FireStarter installed but it returns a post-installation script error
[11:02] <DvlynSyde> gnomefreak: EVERYTHING in add/remove says that.
[11:02] <morten_> klees, A general way would be to open a text editor, and type in all the programs you have installed.
[11:02] <dionnow> I'm just trying to install my display drivers, which require it to be totally closed down
[11:02] <SurfnKid> should i check anything specific to check that firestarter runs
[11:02] <DvlynSyde> are you telling me that there is NOTHING for the 64 bit?
[11:03] <klees> too time consuming
[11:03] <klees> i need a command
[11:03] <lagerimsi> klees try aptitude
[11:03] <gnomefreak> DvlynSyde: try synaptic than
[11:03] <morten_> klees, another way would be to find all executables .. though it might produce false positives ..
[11:03] <dr_willis> dionnow,  kill the gdm service. will kill off X for a while. :P till y reboot or startx - i think the !nvidia faq tell sya more
[11:03] <gnomefreak> but i think its the 64 that this si due to not everything is built for 64 or ppc
[11:03] <lagerimsi> klees dont forget man
[11:03] <Carmen-> is vmware freeware nowdays?
[11:03] <dionnow> thanks for the help
[11:03] <echeese> I get the following error trying to build wine for amd64:
[11:03] <echeese> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[11:04] <kbrooks> Carmen-: vmware server and vmware player are free
[11:04] <Warbo> Carmen-: The "player" is, but not the full version
[11:04] <gnomefreak> DvlynSyde: most free apps should be but nm have been having issues from what ive seen
[11:04] <DvlynSyde> whats synaptic?
[11:04] <apokryphos> echeese: /msg ubotu compile
[11:04] <Warbo> The server is free? Wow
[11:04] <apokryphos> DvlynSyde: /msg ubotu synaptic
[11:04] <gnomefreak> echeese: install build-essential
[11:04] <fire> So.. anyone familure with this problem.. ACPI: Looking for DSDT ... Not found
[11:04] <SurfnKid> FireStarter problem, cannot seem to start, what can I check to view start up settings
[11:04] <echeese> build-essential is already the newest version.
[11:04] <vilkus> could somebody that has cedega teach me how to install it??
[11:05] <DvlynSyde> dude. every single program in add/remove says it doesn't support my system architecture or whatnot
[11:05] <Warbo> SurfnKid: As always, try it from a terminal
[11:05] <morten_> klees, find / -perm /u+x,g+x,o+x
[11:05] <DvlynSyde> you sure its not a matter of me not being online?
[11:05] <morten_> klees, find / -perm /u+x,g+x,o+x -print > myfile.txt #even
[11:05] <Carmen-> i need
[11:05] <Jowi> klees: dpkg -l | grep ii >> filename.txt
[11:05] <Carmen-> vmware full
[11:05] <Carmen-> warez
[11:05] <Carmen-> :-D
[11:05] <morten_> Carmen-, qemu works well sometimes. ..
[11:06] <Carmen-> i wanna illegal copy of vmware
[11:06] <Carmen-> like i had before
[11:06] <klees> thanks Jowi that's exactly what i needed
[11:06] <morten_> Carmen-, thats illegal .. but I guess you know that..
[11:06] <scott> hey, does google earth (native) cause hardlocks for anyone else using an ati and fglrx drivers?
[11:06] <Dial_tone> nothing wrong with vmplayer
[11:06] <Warbo> morten_: I tried running PCBSD with KDE in it earlier. Completely unusable even with kqemu installed and most of my processes stopped
[11:06] <morten_> Carmen-, the general way is to aquire the demo version, then aquire a key-generator and enter a key.
[11:06] <Dial_tone> scott: not for me
[11:07] <scott> it only locks after a bit of use and always while zooming in
[11:07] <morten_> apokryphos, that was kinda rude ...
[11:07] <gnomefreak> morten_: no illegal advice please
[11:07] <Dial_tone> brb
[11:07] <DvlynSyde> you sure its not a matter of me not being online?
[11:07] <morten_> gnomefreak, fair enough
[11:07] <scott> can i ask if you have any special xorg configuration?
[11:08] <SurfnKid> Warbo, try starting firestarter?
[11:08] <Warbo> SurfnKid: If something doesn't work for no apparent reason then running it in a terminal will usually show you what the error is
[11:08] <morten_> hmm .. I can't even message carmen- ...
[11:09] <morten_> I guess I have to register this nick .. though .. someone already did?
[11:09] <morten_> -NickServ- The nickname [Morten_]  is already registered
[11:09] <Krhis> ^^
[11:09] <Warbo> morten_: But you aren't using a capital! That's so unfair...
[11:09] <SurfnKid> um, running dpkg --configure firestarter returns.... subprocess /usr/bin/dpkg says it returns an errorcode,
[11:10] <morten_> Warbo, you're right .. I'll bug lilo at once!
[11:10] <morten_> Warbo, just kidding though.
[11:10] <SurfnKid> exit status 2 init script failure
[11:10] <vegetable> problem: i have Hebrew installed but i cant switch and use it while writing. help!!!
[11:11] <morten_> Warbo, I'll try "morten__"
[11:11] <Quarterlife> Can someone help me with my display problem?
[11:11] <morten__> -NickServ- Your nickname is now registered under the hostmask [blablabla] 
[11:11] <morten__> :)
[11:12] <Warbo> Quarterlife: State your problem and anyone who knows will help
[11:12] <DvlynSyde> you sure its not a matter of me not being online?
[11:12] <morten__> Warbo, heh .. talking about being optimistic ;-)
[11:12] <tpg_> hi
[11:12] <ApocalypticOni> i've edited xorg.conf with sudo, but idk how to save it
[11:12] <morten__> Quarterlife, pay up, and we might help you!
[11:12] <Quarterlife> Erm... My problem is http://edu.pudasjarvi.fi/~gizzmo/Screenshot.png
[11:13] <tpg_> I just installed this Linux version, dont rly know how to use
[11:13] <Warbo> morten__: Well if morten_ comes on I will have to press more buttons to reply to you :(
[11:13] <morten__> Quarterlife, I am just kidding ..
[11:13] <[sYn] > ApocalypticOni: !w in vi
[11:13] <Warbo> tpg_: Well the first question is: What do you want to do?
[11:13] <morten__> Warbo, You're right .. I should DOS him if he ever shows up!
[11:13] <fire> so is there no one that can help with this problem
[11:13] <[sYn] > ApocalypticOni: You may need to press escape before using the !w command in vi
[11:13] <morten__> Warbo, or maybe go for "_morten" or something .. nah .. thats illegal..
[11:13] <orcdestroyer> how can I clean the  mbr ?
[11:13] <dr_willis> !vi
[11:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about vi
[11:13] <tpg_> I want to listen music on www.nederland.fm or something, but i dont know how to install a windows driver on this pc for sound
[11:14] <morten__> tpg_, you're talking junk, do you know that?
[11:14] <tpg_> uhm no...
[11:14] <dr_willis> orcdestroyer,  normally you install the mbr you want on to the hd over the existing mbr
[11:14] <Warbo> tpg_: Well sound drivers are built into the Linux kernel with the ALSA system. Windows drivers wouldn't work, and even if they did it would be really dodgy :)
[11:14] <dragon> im back :D
[11:14] <morten__> tpg_, good thing I told you then!
[11:14] <lagerimsi> ApocalypticOni: or shorter !x for write and quit
[11:14] <orcdestroyer> dr_willis I want to remove
[11:14] <tpg_> yeah
[11:14] <dragon> how do i find out my "root " password?
[11:14] <dr_willis> orcdestroyer,  remove and put what in its place?
[11:15] <Warbo> morten__: Don't alienate new users please :)
[11:15] <dragon> ask her i guess lmao
[11:15] <Warbo> dragon: You don;t have one
[11:15] <tpg_> hmm ill look if i can play music Marbo, on my Linux ;p
[11:15] <Aven> hello
[11:15] <[sYn] > dragon: You should have set it when you installed (well.. not root.. but superuser password)
[11:15] <Warbo> AA! Why do people call me Marbo? :)
[11:15] <morten__> Warbo, explain please?  I am un-native .. my tongue isn't english..
[11:15] <tpg_> sorry, i mean morten
[11:15] <swerves> on Desktop
[11:15] <swerves> what is the default root password?
[11:15] <Aven> Is there a way I can have ubuntu warn me when my computer is overheating? instead of shutting it down
[11:15] <swerves> after install?
[11:16] <fire> so are there any advanced Linux useres here that can help??? so far I have been completly unable to get any help...
[11:16] <gnomefreak> swerves: your user password
[11:16] <vegetable> problem: i have Hebrew installed but i cant switch and use it while writing. help!!!
[11:16] <orcdestroyer> dr_willis I just wanna to test the mbr
[11:16] <swerves> does it work remotely? (SSH?)
[11:16] <gnomefreak> !sudo > swerves
[11:16] <[sYn] > Aven: Might be a better idea to solve the overheat :\
[11:16] <swerves> !sudo
[11:16] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:16] <morten__> tpg_, mp3 is a restricted format .. if thats a hint. ;-)
[11:16] <gnomefreak> swerves: read the pm from ubotu
[11:16] <zybrid_> Swedish_Chef, root is disabled in default, use sudo command instaead
[11:16] <dr_willis> orcdestroyer,  read up on grub and lilo, and how the mbr is made. I guess.
[11:16] <dribble> hey guys -- back in the day, on a different distro, my gnome workspace applet displayed the icons of the open windows, xchat would be a fox with an x in it, firefox would be a box with a globe in it..etc.  anybody know how to get that functionality back?
[11:16] <morten__> zybrid, pretty clever thing to do .. since users are both stupid and insane in general :-)
[11:16] <tpg_> Morten, how can i ever listen music then? :( or aint that possbible?
[11:16] <dragon> so the password i set up to login?
[11:16] <Warbo> morten__: "Yay! I am new to Ubnutu Linux!" "It's UBUNTU you a**hole!" "Well if that's your attitude I'll go back to Windows!" For example
[11:16] <dr_willis> orcdestroyer,  you can 'dd' to/from the mbr if ya really want to. and  trash the system if not carefull. :P
[11:17] <Aven> [sYn] : I don't really think it's overheating though
[11:17] <morten__> tpg_, : it is :)
[11:17] <Aven> fans are working perfectly
[11:17] <sharms> dribble: gnome-notification-applet
[11:17] <tpg_> uhm, tell me
[11:17] <Aven> I also managed to clean out the dust, etc.
[11:17] <morten__> Warbo, oh .. maybe I had too much morgan too night. :/
[11:17] <zybrid_> dragon: its your first userpass
[11:17] <sharms> dribble: err maybe not
[11:17] <dribble> sharms, i've got the notification applet up -- i'm referring to the workspace switcher :p
[11:17] <dr_willis> amazing how much dust and stuff gets in a pc.
[11:17] <dragon> oh ok
[11:17] <Aven> heh yeah
[11:17] <Tom7e> did anyone here install mythtv from synaptic?
[11:17] <morten__> Warbo, I didn't mean to assign the title of the english version of anus to any newbies. :/
[11:17] <Warbo> tpg_: MP3 is patented, and a while ago RedHat got into some legal trouble for including MP3 support in their Linux version, so these days you have to install it yourself. However, installing stuff in Ubuntu is much easier than in Wndows :)
[11:17] <fire> i sure don't want to go back to windows but I am about to also.. I can't even get my other computer to boot up... hopefully Ill find some help sooner or later...
[11:18] <vegetable> could some 1 help me. i've already ask 2 times
[11:18] <fire> you and me both vegetable
[11:18] <dribble> I miss windows for some stuff....like flash and signed wmv files.  hmm, that's about it
[11:18] <sharms> fire: ask a question.
[11:18] <morten__> Warbo, besides .. I never really considered ms-windows a sane alternative..
[11:18] <sharms> dribble: I have flash.
[11:18] <fire> I am having ACPI: Looking for DSDT ... not found!
[11:18] <morten__> dribble, you can have flash in 32-bit gnu/linux.
[11:18] <tpg_> how can i whisper someone? people are helping me in red stuff...
[11:18] <fire> I can't get it to boot at all
[11:18] <zybrid_> dribble, whatabout flash?
[11:19] <dribble> morten__, meant flash 8/9
[11:19] <Warbo> morten__: Well would you consider users installing Windows sound drivers in Linux sane?
[11:19] <morten__> tpg_, You're new to computers?
[11:19] <morten__> dribble, what you mean?
[11:19] <sharms> fire: is it an emachines laptop?
[11:19] <morten__> dribble, flash is only in version 7 !
[11:19] <swerves> how do I write to /var/www as an admin?
[11:19] <morten__> dribble, afaik.
[11:19] <vegetable> what about me. blah
[11:19] <tpg_> To linux yes, im a bit young but i used Windows, atleast i know almost everything about it ;p
[11:19] <fire> no.. its a system I build.. its using an ASUS P4S800D-X mother board...
[11:19] <dribble> morten__, exactly, which is why i miss it ;)
[11:19] <morten__> dribble, then agin .. tis a few days since I install.
[11:19] <Warbo> Flash 8 (and 8.5?) can be installed in WINE
[11:19] <sharms> !tell vegetable about anyone
[11:20] <morten__> Warbo, wine socks .. go with vodka or rum.
[11:20] <sharms> fire: What happens when you disable acpi in the bios?
[11:20] <bsdirl> tpg_: about 90% of the IT classes at my college were like that
[11:20] <dribble> here here!
[11:20] <Warbo> tpg_: If you go into the "Examples" folder and play a .ogg file, do you get sound?
[11:20] <swerves> i can't seem to write to /var/www as an admin, its chowned to root and won't let me chown it to someone else, how can I write to /var/www on Desktop 6.06 as an admin?
[11:20] <morten__> Warbo, just kidding again .. wasn't even funny - huh?
[11:20] <bsdirl> "Active Directory is the best ever!" :|
[11:20] <vegetable> problem: i have Hebrew installed but i cant switch and use it while writing. help!!!
[11:20] <jc-denton> bsdirl: you on a linux channel?
[11:20] <fire> sharms: nothing seams to change.. I could try again.. but i believe I had the same error.. let me quickly try
[11:20] <jc-denton> openbsd rocks! :)
[11:20] <morten__> dribble, if I understand you correctly, I have question:  Why no flash 8/9 for gnu/linux?
[11:20] <Warbo> morten__: It isn't funny when you confuse me with comparing WINE to socks
[11:20] <bsdirl> jc-denton: you could say that
[11:21] <morten__> Warbo, right :-)
[11:21] <swerves> i can't seem to write to /var/www as an admin, its chowned to root and won't let me chown it to someone else, how can I write to /var/www on Desktop 6.06 as an admin?
[11:21] <tpg_> where is the map Examples :/
[11:21] <morten__> Warbo, you'
[11:21] <bsdirl> i prefer netbsd *sigh*
[11:21] <dribble> morten__, 'cause macromedia are a buncha fscking slackers.
[11:21] <morten__> Warbo, you're old debian / slackware user?
[11:21] <DvlynSyde> i needwireless help. was told to install Network Manager but ALL programs in add/remove say "Not available on any software channel. Application might not support your system architecture" (i'm using 64 bit utuntu)
[11:21] <morten__> dribble, Lets mail them something rodden. :-P
[11:21] <smear> i can't seem to write to /var/www as an admin, its chowned to root and won't let me chown it to someone else, how can I write to /var/www on Desktop 6.06 as an admin?
[11:21] <Warbo> morten__: RedHat>Fedora3>Debian>Ubuntu
[11:21] <morten__> Warbo, :)
[11:21] <mjr> morten__, it's a proprietary format and the vendor doesn't want to support Linux really. Free implementations are lagging behind (though making some progresS)
[11:22] <morten__> Warbo, I was before RedHat .. (thank God)
[11:22] <mad_slackie> a good night to all ladies and gentlemans!
[11:22] <zybrid_> DvlynSyde, you should use 32bit version instead
[11:22] <dribble> morten__, haha, agreed!  the *nix communicty as been on their case for a while now.  They promised us a release for 8, it never came.  Now they're swearing to get us v9, but, I've yet to see it.
[11:22] <morten__> mjr, lets DOS all flash sites...
[11:22] <zybrid_> DvlynSyde, 32bit ubuntu
[11:22] <vegetable> 4th time: have Hebrew installed but i cant switch and use it while writing. help!!!
[11:22] <Warbo> morten__: I was a newbie once. I heard that "Red Hat" was a good Linux company, so I got the latest version, RedHat 9. I later found out about Fedora :)
[11:22] <smear> i can't seem to write to /var/www as an admin, its chowned to root and won't let me chown it to someone else, how can I write to /var/www on Desktop 6.06 as an admin?
[11:22] <orcdestroyer> wich tool I use using a ntfs partition ?
[11:22] <zybrid_> vegetable, retype your question
[11:22] <Warbo> orcdestroyer: What do you want to do on the partition?
[11:22] <fire> sharms: i was incorrect when i disable it gets past that to the next line which says ACPI: setting ELCR to 0200 (from 0c28) and it does still above say DSDT not found
[11:23] <smear> i can't seem to write to /var/www as an admin, its chowned to root and won't let me chown it to someone else, how can I write to /var/www on Desktop 6.06 as an admin?
[11:23] <Jack_Sparrow> gparted
[11:23] <morten__> Warbo, when I started, I could choose SLS or Slackware .. there was some others .. but only for experts, (as far as I reckoned).
[11:23] <zybrid_> smear, sudo
[11:23] <gavagai> smear, don't chown that stuff!
[11:23] <Jack_Sparrow> orcdestroyer: what are you trying to do to that partition?
[11:23] <gatekeeper> tpg_: what's the problem?
[11:23] <orcdestroyer> Jack_Sparrow install xp
[11:23] <smear> sudo asks me for an unknown password
[11:23] <bimberi> smear: use sudo when copying or moving files to /var/www
[11:23] <gavagai> smear, it is your password
[11:23] <smear> the password is NOT my default user password
[11:23] <tpg_> I cant find the examples folder to test sound to see if the sound is working here
[11:23] <zybrid_> smear, its your userpass
[11:23] <bsdirl> Red Hat's in my state.. I wanna drive up there and demand they put RHEL on my blank discs
[11:23] <morten__> Warbo, then came red hat .. but it seemed proprietary to me being new to gnu/linux.
[11:23] <smear> it says Sorry.
[11:23] <Warbo> orcdestroyer: Try this: www.microsoft.com
[11:23] <Jack_Sparrow> orcdestroyer: What is your current partition configuration
[11:24] <scott_w|ubuntu> how can i start ssh on ubuntu?
[11:24] <scott_w|ubuntu> the ssh daemon that is
[11:24] <smear> install ssh package (to scott_w)
[11:24] <zybrid_> scott, openssh-server
[11:24] <gavagai> smear, it is the password for the first account you created when you installed
[11:24] <erUSUL> tpg_: aplay /usr/share/sounds/phone.wav
[11:24] <bsdirl> /etc/init.d/sshd start
[11:24] <morten__> Warbo, all their talk about commercial support kinda scared me off.
[11:24] <gavagai> scott_w|ubuntu, apt-get install openssh-server
[11:24] <bsdirl> i think..
[11:24] <dragon> im havin probs wif installing java
[11:24] <scott_w|ubuntu> zybrid_: thanks
[11:24] <Jowi> smear: then you're spelling it incorrectly. it is your user password
[11:24] <tpg_> in terminal or so?
[11:24] <gatekeeper> tpg_: go to System Settings -> Sound -> press the 'Test Sound' button
[11:24] <smear> no i'm not spelling it incorrectly
[11:24] <morten__> dragon, s/wif/with/ I assume?
[11:24] <bimberi> dragon: what problems - it's in the ubuntu repositories
[11:24] <bimberi> ?
[11:24] <smear> i'm on the terminal remotely via ssh
[11:24] <plyr55> !runescape
[11:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about runescape
[11:24] <dragon> it says root passwod (my first userpass im told) and thatpass dont work
[11:24] <smear> i am in the admin group
[11:24] <morten__> !ubotu
[11:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:25] <scott_w|ubuntu> argh hell! it isn't on the liveCD
[11:25] <smear> dragon: ditto
[11:25] <Warbo> morten__: RedHat seem to be pretty Free Software, considering this recent Java stuff and such. Anyway, this is a little offtopic
[11:25] <scott_w|ubuntu> ; ;
[11:25] <sharms> fire: in your grub menu, edit the entry and add acpi=off to the bootoptions
[11:25] <morten__> Warbo, yeah
[11:25] <fire> sharms: okay let me try that
[11:25] <morten__> Warbo, offtopic is like breating for ontopic at times though. :-)
[11:25] <fire> sharms: that goes on the same line at root=?? right
[11:25] <tpg_> ill look
[11:26] <tpg_> still thanks gatekeeper
[11:26] <SonicChao> How do I install Wine in Ubuntu 6.06? Is there a .deb package somewhere?
[11:26] <plyr55> !nethack
[11:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about nethack
[11:26] <SonicChao> Wink*
[11:26] <Jowi> smear: i administer ubuntu systems via ssh and using sudo daily. works fine for me :)
[11:26] <SonicChao> Sorry, Wink not Wine.
[11:26] <Warbo> Yay I love E16!
[11:26] <plyr55> !gaim
[11:26] <smear> w/ Desktop 6.06?
[11:26] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[11:26] <BearKnuckle> Why can't i connect to the terminal and how can I fix it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17568
[11:26] <gatekeeper> tpg_: do you hear anything?
[11:26] <RaCarter> can you install ubuntu with lvm?
[11:26] <plyr55> !games
[11:26] <smear> it won't let me su root or sudo, but sometimes sudo works
[11:26] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[11:26] <dr_willis> 'connect to the terminal' ?
[11:26] <RaCarter> with standard installation tools
[11:26] <michaels> I got gdesklets to start with each session (it's there in the notification area) but to make the desklets appear I have to open the gdesklets shell. how can I get them to show up when I start?
[11:26] <sharms> fire: yup
[11:26] <tpg_> Well i dont even know wher eis System settings, Im atm now in applications above in the screen
[11:27] <Warbo> RaCarter: Not with the graphical disc sadly, only with the text installer (alternate CD) as far as I know
[11:27] <sharms> fire: also I recommend you check to make sure you have the latest bios revision
[11:27] <SonicChao> How do I install Wink in Ubuntu 6.06? Is there a .deb package somewhere?
[11:27] <ardchoille> W00T! My Ubuntu CD's have arrived! Wowsers, they started shipping Ubuntu decals with the disks :)
[11:27] <Jowi> smear: sometimes? that does not make any sence.
[11:27] <dr_willis> !info wink
[11:27] <ubotu> Package wink does not exist in dapper
[11:27] <Jowi> s/sence/sense
[11:27] <gatekeeper> tpg_: not sure where it is myself I use KDE not Gnome :-)
[11:27] <smear> i dunno
[11:27] <tpg_> ahh
[11:27] <tpg_> is it possible to change to KDE or something?
[11:28] <smear> Jowi: i do "su root" and type in my user pass: it says "sorry."
[11:28] <SonicChao> dr_willis: what about a third part deb?
[11:28] <Warbo> SonicChao: I think I have run Wink from it's directory before, but ended up using pyvnc2swf instead
[11:28] <gatekeeper> Warbo: where is System Settings in Gnome?
[11:28] <Jowi> smear: and if you just use "sudo command"?
[11:28] <smear> Jowi: i do "sudo <command>": it works
[11:28] <Warbo> gatekeeper: Settings for what?
[11:28] <gavagai> smear, there IS no root account
[11:28] <gavagai> smear, then there is no problem, it works.  use sudo.
[11:28] <acebo> Spooky.. that's not the KatG Spooky, is it?
[11:28] <smear> Jowi: i do "sudo root <command>" it asks for the password, but then its not my userpass
[11:28] <dr_willis> SonicChao,  i would have to say time to be googling and checking the wiki/forums
[11:28] <dragon> the worst bit about my problem is that ive only had linux for like 5 hours
[11:28] <gatekeeper> Warbo: sound for starters
[11:28] <Jack_Sparrow> smear:  sudo su
[11:28] <gavagai> smear, if you need a shell do: sudo bash
[11:28] <SonicChao> dr_willis: ok
[11:28] <Warbo> "sudo su" should work
[11:28] <fire> sharms: i already loaded the latest bios this morning and now my Kernel line says /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-25-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro acpi=off single
[11:28] <Jowi> smear: root is not enabled.
[11:28] <dragon> in that time ive installed it twice
[11:28] <smear> sudo su root
[11:28] <smear> workd :)
[11:29] <bimberi> er 'sudo -i' folks
[11:29] <sharms> dragon: what is your problem?
[11:29] <sharms> fire: does that work?
[11:29] <Warbo> su is enabled, but only to let super users become normal users
[11:29] <dragon> my root password isnt what i set it to
[11:29] <Warbo> or sudo -u I htink
[11:29] <Jowi> smear: bimberi uses the correct syntax btw
[11:29] <sharms> !tell dragon about sudo
[11:29] <smear> dragon: try sudo su root
[11:29] <dragon> and my gfx card dusnt do gfx well lol
[11:29] <gavagai> dragon, you have no root account
[11:29] <ardchoille> !sudo > ardchoille
[11:29] <sharms> dragon,  read the PM from ubotu
[11:29] <dragon> oh ok
[11:30] <gatekeeper> !System Settings
[11:30] <dragon> ok
[11:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about System Settings
[11:30] <dragon> thx
[11:30] <DvlynSyde> i needwireless help. was told to install Network Manager but ALL programs in add/remove say "Not available on any software channel. Application might not support your system architecture" (i'm using 64 bit utuntu)
[11:30] <fire> sharms: hold on.. its doing more....  man.. i swear i did that earlier.. but it seams to have worked..
[11:30] <DvlynSyde> ANYONE?
[11:30] <fire> sharms: well thank you for taking the time.. hopefully I won't have to bother you again... but im in now.. and ill make perminent edits to the boot files...
[11:30] <Warbo> gatekeeper: What exactly do you want to look at/change? Everything has it's own tool so just look for the right one (of course, KDE has kcontrol.......)
[11:30] <sharms> DvlynSyde: how about apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[11:31] <tpg_> ok i see, sound doesnt work ,anybody can help me please?
[11:31] <sharms> fire: good luck, glad to get ya going
[11:31] <Warbo> tpg_: You can do "lspci" to see what your soundcard is, and then we may be able to get it working for you :)
[11:31] <zybrid_> DvlynSyde, well, whats the problem_ there isnt a 64bit version yet, you need to use the ubuntu 32bit version
[11:31] <gatekeeper> Warbo: tpg_: has found it :-)
[11:31] <bimberi> !sound
[11:31] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:32] <tpg_> welll i tryed it with www.pwned.nl hehehe
[11:32] <gatekeeper> tpg_: from the CLI type in alsamixer
[11:32] <DvlynSyde> so there is nothing for 64 bit version now?
[11:32] <sharms> DvlynSyde: I recommend 32-bit ubuntu for all users
[11:32] <DvlynSyde> thank you
[11:32] <sharms> it will work fine despite your 64-bit capabilities.
[11:32] <Quarterlife> Help http://edu.pudasjarvi.fi/~gizzmo/Screenshot.png
[11:32] <DvlynSyde> yeah i know that. just figured the 64 bit would have well. SOMETHING
[11:32] <sharms> DvlynSyde: it is possible in edgy that there will be better methods of running 32-bit programs in 64-bit environments
[11:33] <Warbo> sharms: I would use 64bit just to use the true power of my machine, dammit! But what the heck, I don't even have a 64bit system :)
[11:33] <sharms> Warbo: :) I have a few 64 bit machines, all running 32 go figure
[11:33] <sharms> I use a lot of codecs though
[11:33] <orcdestroyer>  badblocks -t random ?
[11:33] <orcdestroyer> is that right?
[11:33] <sdk> i own 64bit version and i must admit - many things wont run without recompiling, but the system runs so smoothly than i am not sure of switching back to 32bit os :)
[11:34] <echeese> Does Wine work under AMD64 Dapper?
[11:34] <bimberi> DvlynSyde: are you asking about network-manager? there's amd64 packages for that
[11:34] <odla> i get this error when i try to install or download tarballs from firefox, any ideas?      http://pastebin.ca/82724
[11:34] <sdk> works, but there are some problems
[11:34] <tpg_> ok with the lspci i see what my information is and stuff
[11:34] <bimberi> DvlynSyde: put the contents on /etc/apt/sources.list on the pastebin
[11:34] <Warbo> echeese: Yes, but it is not in the repos since it has to be compiled for 32bit
[11:34] <DvlynSyde> bimberi: i am asking about network manager
[11:34] <odla> also capplets-data seems to be taking forever to set up during my update
[11:34] <orcdestroyer> badblocks -t random ?
[11:34] <bimberi> *of
[11:35] <orcdestroyer> is right ?
[11:35] <echeese> Warbo, how could I get wine running somewhat stabley on my amd64 macheen?
[11:35] <zybrid_> yeah, i have a couple of 64bits amd/intel servers running 32bit software only :( it sucks
[11:35] <DvlynSyde> bimberi: i'm on windows now. i can't get online in ubuntu
[11:35] <tpg_> and now? i know what my soundcard is, but i dont think he finds it
[11:35] <SonicChao> Got it running!
[11:35] <Franz_Kafka> Looking for a good place to grab a sweet new background.. Any ideas?
[11:35] <tpg_> is there any way to get sound working? i got the drivers here on cd but i dont think it would work on linux...
[11:35] <SonicChao> Unzip it, and do "sh installer.sh"
[11:35] <SonicChao> :)
[11:35] <sdk> echeese: what do you need wine for? if you intend to play games - forget it
[11:35] <bsmith___> while upgrading, i ran into an issue during dpkg --configure of wbritish (of all packages)
[11:35] <bsmith___> http://pastebin.ca/82728
[11:35] <gatekeeper> odla: looks like the xml stuff on that web site is incorrectly formatted
[11:35] <depi> what is the best solution to the azureus tray icon? I saw something on the forum, but it wasnt the best
[11:36] <bsmith___> how should i track down what is going on?
[11:36] <bimberi> DvlynSyde: hmmk,  If everything in add/remove is unavailable then i think it might be an issue with your repositories
[11:36] <Warbo> echeese: There is linux32, which seems a better option but I don't know how to use it, or there is a 32bit chroot (which I tried to get working for a mate and ended up having to link about 50 programs from the chroot to the main Ubuntu system :( )
[11:36] <SonicChao> Warbo: installed it, thanks for trying to help
[11:36] <odla> gatekeeper: it's like that on gnome-look and on a mozilla website
[11:36] <dionnow> If i get an error that says "Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel. "  while running a Nvidia installer, any ideas?
[11:36] <echeese> sdk, how else am I supposed to play games?
[11:36] <DvlynSyde> bimberi: everything in add/remove is unavailable. i've said that :)
[11:36] <tpg_> Could anybody help me getting my sound working? or aint that possible?
[11:36] <sdk> echeese: when i decided to install 64bit linux i knew i wont play games though
[11:36] <Jowi> !sound
[11:36] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:36] <gavagai> dionnow, install the kernel source
[11:36] <Warbo> DvlynSyde: What about in "Advanced" (Synaptic)?
[11:37] <DvlynSyde> the limited things that are there. will at least allow installation
[11:37] <bimberi> DvlynSyde: yes i know.  do you can't get online under ubuntu at all?
[11:37] <gatekeeper> tpg_: have you started alsamixer, or was your sound card not detected?
[11:37] <DvlynSyde> bimberi: that i cannot. i can't get wireless internet working.
[11:37] <[FR] droid> hello. I've followed the how-to to configure a speedtouch modem under ubuntu and it didn't work. Can anybody help me?
[11:37] <DvlynSyde> i was told to get network manager
[11:38] <dionnow> ok gavagi, would i do that through the synaptic package manager?
[11:38] <murph2481> how do i get a 5 button mouse with side scroll to work properlly?
[11:38] <mcp_dk> goodevening
[11:38] <bimberi> DvlynSyde: what wireless device do you have?
[11:38] <Warbo> dionnow: USe synaptic to get the right "linux-headers" for your kernel
[11:38] <tpg_> ive started multimedia selector or something, and i choosed ALSA stuff, doesnt work on Test
[11:38] <gavagai> dionnow, i have no idea.  from the terminal i think it is:  apt-get install kernel-source
[11:38] <depi> mcp_dk good :)
[11:38] <gatekeeper> odla: I have had trouble with add-in off the mozilla site but none on the extensions mirror so it could be them I am not sure
[11:39] <mcp_dk> after that last update i no longer have a "shutdown" or "reboot" option i can only go to Hibernate!
[11:39] <tpg_> but im gonna look on the ALSA website
[11:39] <Warbo> gavagai: Source isn't needed, only the headers
[11:39] <mcp_dk> any idea how i can get the options back to shutdown and reboot ?
[11:39] <dionnow> Ok thanks Warbo and gavagai
[11:39] <DvlynSyde> bimberi: windows shows it as: Texas Instruments 802.11g wireless pci card
[11:39] <Warbo> gavagai: Also the kernel stuff has been renamed to "linux-image" "linux-headers" and "linux-source". Only the 2.4 branch has "kernel-xxxxxx"
[11:40] <Shizboom> what would be the best way to setup and ftp server in ubuntu?
[11:40] <dionnow> ok so currently i'm installing linux-source, so that should be what i'm looking for eh?
[11:40] <bsmith___> is there some way to manually mark a half-configured dpkg package as done?
[11:41] <Warbo> dionnow: No, unless you want to make a new kernel for yourself. Get the "linux-headers-yourkernel"
[11:41] <erUSUL> Shizboom: it depends on what ftp server you choose i supose 
[11:41] <Shizboom> any recommendations?
[11:41] <tpg_> Gatekeeper?
[11:41] <dragon> ok 1 more question before i stuff up linux again and have to reinstall lol
[11:41] <bimberi> DvlynSyde: kk, sec...
[11:42] <dragon> where shud i install java 2?
[11:42] <erUSUL> Shizboom: vsftpd is very secure ftpd i have it instaled but i do not use it much
[11:42] <Warbo> dragon: The packages will sort that out for you
[11:42] <dionnow> Where do I look to see exactly what kernal I'm running?
[11:42] <Warbo> !java
[11:42] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:42] <dragon> ok
[11:42] <erUSUL> dionnow: uname -a
[11:42] <Warbo> dionnow: Type "uname -r"
[11:42] <tpg_> !java
[11:42] <Shizboom> !ftp
  FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[11:43] <tpg_> Can anybody help me? how do i get sound working? i dont know where alsamixer is... and ive tried ALSA but it aint working
[11:43] <gavagai> Warbo, i see, thanks
[11:43] <delta____> Hey guys! I recently installed Evolution and found it sometimes takes quite some time before filter rules and the junk filter kick in and move stuff out of my inbox. Is that by design?
[11:43] <dionnow> Thanks guys
[11:43] <gavagai> Shizboom, safe is relative, no ftp server is really safe.  so don't use password authentication with users that have real shells.
[11:43] <bimberi> DvlynSyde: ok, if you boot ubuntu your wireless card isn't listed in the Networking applet?
[11:43] <erUSUL> tpg_: you type "alsamixer" in a terminal and run it.
[11:43] <Warbo> tpg_: ALSA Mixer is run by just typing "alsamixer" into a terminal (Applications>Accesories)
[11:44] <erUSUL> !sound > tpg_
[11:44] <DvlynSyde> its listed. it just won't connect
[11:44] <tpg_> ok done
[11:44] <plyr55> !auto bots
[11:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about auto bots
[11:44] <gavagai> Shizboom, i use proftpd, it is very easy to setup.  and my ftp users have shell /bin/false, so even if they get access they can't do anything
[11:44] <plyr55> !bots
[11:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about bots
[11:45] <erUSUL> delta____: i think it is bad desing evo uses spamassasin that it's not a light app so it takes time to run
[11:45] <tpg_> how can i do something in alsamixer? and what do i need to do?
[11:45] <mag_> could someone help me with samba ?
[11:45] <DvlynSyde> and i put in the essid and password
[11:45] <bimberi> DvlynSyde: ah, getting network-manager installed might be a bit hard.  If you haven't already, try some of the help via https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:45] <erUSUL> tpg_: is to check if you have muted any channel or with a very low volume
[11:45] <Warbo> tpg_: See if it has detected your card right (maybe compare it to lspci) and make sure your volume levels are not really low
[11:46] <Shizboom> !samba
[11:46] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:46] <ToHellWithGA> !tor
[11:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about tor
 could you help me ?
[11:46] <Shizboom> whats up?
[11:46] <delta____> erUSUL: Ah, OK. Might as well have been a config mistake. Thanks.
[11:46] <Shizboom> i dont know about samba :P
[11:46] <Shizboom> i was just wondering what it did
[11:46] <l_r> i am searchinf for a 2.6.17 kernel compiled for ubuntu dapper. any idea?
[11:46] <Earthen> could someone help with writing a iptable ip blocking rule
 I have samba installed but I cant see the other pc with ubuntu
[11:47] <DvlynSyde> hmm.. maybe the essid being set to default messes it up
[11:47] <Shizboom> sorry can't help :/
[11:47] <bimberi> DvlynSyde: if network-manager becomes the only option left you can download the required packages via http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:47] <Shizboom> did you try the links in the !samba?
 ok thank's anyway
[11:47] <erUSUL> l_r: i do not think you will find one. compile it yourself
[11:47] <plyr55> !java
[11:47] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:47] <erUSUL> !kernel > l_r
[11:47] <Quarterlife> Seems like nobody can help me :(
[11:47] <Sinistrad> mag_, can you use something like smbclient -L //<ip address of SMB server (windows host?)
[11:48] <Sinistrad> e.g.: smbclient -L //192.168.1.100
[11:48] <Sinistrad> beh, guess not
 I'm using a browser !
[11:49] <Sinistrad> try: smbclient -L //192.168.1.100
[11:49] <DvlynSyde> bimberi: ok. thanks a lot
[11:49] <Sinistrad> replacing, of course, that IP address with the real IP address of whichever host you're trying to get to
[11:49] <Warbo> l_r: Visit kernel.org, get the right version you want, unpack it, go in it, do "sudo -i" then "make oldconfig" then "make xconfig" then set any options you want, then do "make" and "make modules_install" then copy arch/i386/boot/bzImage to /boot and call it vmlinuz-something, then do "mkinitramfs <version of the kernel you just built>" then copy that initrd image to /boot, then add those to a new entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst.
[11:49] <sharms> can anyone recommend a good linux-compatible video camera with resolution high enough to make an IPTV show?
[11:49] <webben> in estrdup() c or c++ ?
[11:50] <bimberi> DvlynSyde: yw, good luck :)
[11:50] <tpg_> Sound still not working :/
[11:50] <Warbo> erUSUL: Well, 5 mins to write, a few hours to build? :)
[11:50] <tpg_> sound is at hardest and stuff
[11:50] <DvlynSyde> whats the current distrobution name?
[11:50] <erUSUL> Warbo: it has to copy the old config from boot to make oldconfig to work
[11:50] <DvlynSyde> dapper? edgy? wtf
[11:50] <l_r> Warbo, ok, thanks.. it will take hours :(  i did prefer something available :)
[11:51] <tpg_> Anybody know how to get Sound working??
[11:51] <erUSUL> l_r: in my athlon 1.3 it takes ~25-30 minutes to compile a kernel
[11:51] <plyr55> !python
[11:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about python
[11:51] <bimberi> DvlynSyde: Dapper
[11:52] <erUSUL> Linux Varda 2.6.17.2 #3 PREEMPT Fri Jun 30 16:48:56 CEST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:52] <l_r> erUSUL, i have an old piii 550 here :)
 if I type my own ip I can see my workgroup and the name od my pc !
[11:52] <DvlynSyde> dapper is 64 bit?
[11:52] <tpg_> Warbo
[11:52] <mag_> which is the other sistme similar to pastebin ?
[11:52] <Sinistrad> mag_, what about the IP of the host you're trying to browse/connect to?
[11:52] <DvlynSyde> bah. i'm not doing any server stuff anyway. i'm just switching to 32 bit. heh
[11:53] <tpg_> My computer aint finding my sound card, but it is finding my broken soundcard omg
[11:53] <bimberi> DvlynSyde: yes dapper includes packages for 64bit pcs
[11:53] <plyr55> does anyone have the programming code for a game-playing bot?
[11:54] <gdb> DvlynSyde: it's when you're doing workstation stuff that you need to worry about 64 bit (it's a pain in the ass).  For server tasks, either 32 or 64 bit is fine, you won't notice any functional difference.
[11:54] <redguy> plyr55, I bet google wold tell you
[11:54] <technel> I run Azureus when I am not home on Ubuntu. However, twice now when I got home I notice the screensaver is not moving anymore and Ubuntu is froze. Why?
 just I wanto to see my shared file on the browser but can't see !
[11:56] <tailsfan> How are you fellow Ubuntu USers
[11:56] <depi> Hi all! I have FAT32 shared disk, and I would like to save there data with Azureus, but it cant allocate data there. Can I ask what is the best way to mount FAT32 hdd? or where may be the problem?
[11:56] <tpg_> tabarktpolar
[11:56] <VR_> hi all. does anyone know how i can have bash echo the current process name in the title bar?
[11:56] <tpg_> u can help me?
[11:56] <erUSUL> !ntfs > depi
[11:57] <barktpolar> WHat you need help with?
[11:57] <tpg_> my sound aint working :(
[11:57] <depi> erUSUL: ?
[11:57] <Wesley> lol u r all fagz
[11:57] <lucasvo> erUSUL: he clearly said it's FAT!!
[11:57] <barktpolar> tpg_: welcome to the club
[11:57] <depi> yes FAT no ntfs
[11:57] <lucasvo> !language > Wesley
[11:57] <tpg_> what do you mean barktpolar?
[11:57] <barktpolar> my sound isn't working because my freakin' soundcrad ain't being detected
[11:57] <tpg_> ahh, ok ;P same here
[11:57] <barktpolar> soundcard*
[11:58] <lucasvo> Wesley: that is rude, don't discriminate gays
[11:58] <newbuntu> I'm getting the following error when typing this command:  ipkg-build.sh Test     error is : * Warning: The following files have a UID greater than 99.
[11:58] <newbuntu> You probably want to chown these to a system user:
[11:58] <newbuntu> *  can anybody help me figure out how to fix that?
[11:58] <Wesley> lol sorry i dont mean anything i just had to do it as a joke
[11:58] <tpg_> barktpolar, u know something about this linux? im new here and i dont know what to do
[11:58] <newbuntu> sorry for the multipost
[11:58] <erUSUL> depi: the page ubotu gave you describes how to do it for vfat and ntfs. did you bother checking the page before telling me i'm a ...
[11:58] <barktpolar> What soundcard do you have tpg_
[11:58] <lucasvo> depi: but what is azureus anyway?
[11:58] <newbuntu> bittorrent client
[11:58] <barktpolar> A Bittorrent App
[11:58] <lucasvo> erUSUL: but shouldn't FAT get automounted in ubuntu?
[11:59] <barktpolar> Is theer a alternate to PeerGuardian for Linux?
[11:59] <newbuntu> i use ktorrent in dapper
[11:59] <depi> lucasvo: bittorrent client
[11:59] <tpg_> some creative soundcard, 24bit, but when i do lspci or something then it doesnt find it, only my broken one
[11:59] <lucasvo> depi: can you r/w in gnome?
[11:59] <barktpolar> I have a ESS Audiodrive
[11:59] <newbuntu> how do you chown a user?
[11:59] <depi> lucasvo: yes in gnome and with command line I can. But with Firefox or Azureus I cant
[12:00] <lucasvo> strange
[12:00] <newbuntu> er I mean chown a file so a user can access it
[12:00] <erUSUL> lucasvo: removable media yes. hd partitions should be added to /etc/fstab in the page i recomend to depi there is a script that does that automagicaly
[12:00] <lucasvo> depi: how do you share it?
[12:00] <lucasvo> depi: nfs, sshfs?
[12:00] <bimberi> newbuntu: sudo chown user file
[12:00] <dash`> can you add items to the basic menus?
[12:00] <depi> lucasvo: it is just another partition which I can see from both systems
[12:00] <barktpolar> they need to fix the whole soundcard prob for ALSA
[12:00] <newbuntu> okay trying that thanks
[12:00] <dou213> http://world3.monstersgame.co.uk/?ac=vid&vid=38023734