[12:16] <DanielC> I can't think today. I'll figure out how to use pbuilder tomorrow.
[12:16] <DanielC> I should go to bed.
[12:17] <LaserJock> I"ve got to go today
[12:17] <LaserJock> s/today/now/
[12:17] <LaserJock> shesh
[12:17] <DanielC> take care
[12:17] <LaserJock> DanielC: go ahead and upload the source package to revu
[12:17] <DanielC> LaserJock: ok :)
[12:18] <LaserJock> try to build it in pbuilder when you can
[12:18] <DanielC> k
[12:18] <LaserJock> I'll do the same but since there isn't a lot to go wrong I wouldn't expect any problems :-)
[12:18] <DanielC> :-)
[12:19] <LaserJock> DanielC: cya
[12:19] <DanielC> cya
[12:27] <DFM> Hi all.
[12:28] <Burgundavia> hey DFM
[12:28] <DFM> Finally found my way in here.
[12:28] <DFM> Looking for some help on edbuntu.
[12:28] <DFM> I need to change a network setting and it needs the root password.
[12:29] <DFM> I searched the site and it tells of using sudo to access root but I thought that was a command to use in the shell?
[12:29] <Burgundavia> no, Edubuntu and Ubuntu use sudo, which means you need your password
[12:30] <DFM> I don't recall setting up a root pw. I only set one up for my daughter,
[12:30] <Burgundavia> you didn't
[12:31] <Burgundavia> the first user account is in the admin group
[12:31] <DFM> ah
[12:31] <Burgundavia> no subsequent users are in that group unless you explicitly add them
[12:31] <DFM> so even though I am not running in root all I need to do is use her pw to access it?
[12:32] <Burgundavia> assuming you set up her account on install, yes
[12:32] <DFM> I'm starting to really like Linux
[12:32] <Burgundavia> indeed. Although I should point out that only Ubuntu does sudo by default
[12:33] <Burgundavia> other distros still use a root account
[12:33] <DFM> What is sudo?
[12:33] <pygi> !!!
[12:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about !!
[12:33] <pygi> !sudo
[12:33] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:33] <Burgundavia> it stands for SUperuser DO
[12:34] <DFM> thanks sorry for the lack of knowledge. I did attempt to find info before coming here. 
[12:34] <Burgundavia> hey no worries
[12:34] <Burgundavia> that is what we are here for
[12:34] <Burgundavia> hey pygi
[12:34] <DFM> I had to install ChatZilla and learn how to use irc since this is my first time
[12:34] <pygi> hey Burgundavia, morning ^_^
[12:34] <Burgundavia> afternoon actually, but I did just get up
[12:36] <pygi> Burgundavia, ah ^_^
[12:36] <pygi> I just found a python bindings which me and sivang need (I found it before, but not download link), and it's protected by password !!!
[12:36] <pygi> (for libburn)
[12:36] <DFM> Thanks Burgundavia for the help. I imagine I will be back from time to time.
[12:36] <Burgundavia> no worries again
[12:36] <Burgundavia> glad I could help
[12:39] <pygi> Burgundavia, anyway, now it's my turn to sleep ^_^
[12:39] <pygi> night
[04:07] <sbalneav> Evening all
[05:41] <crimsun> 'evening.
[05:41] <HedgeMage> hiya
[05:42] <HedgeMage> Anybody see Seveas recently?
[05:42] <crimsun> he's likely asleep.
[05:42] <crimsun> (but no)
[05:42] <HedgeMage> okay, thanks
[05:43] <HedgeMage> sorry, long week
[05:44] <HedgeMage> how have you been?
[05:44] <crimsun> busy, working, repeat ad nauseum. Yourself?
[05:45] <HedgeMage> same, except I don't get paid for my work :P
[05:45] <crimsun> nor me. :)
[05:51] <HedgeMage> heh
[05:52] <HedgeMage> then we're in the same boat
[06:11] <HedgeMage> I'm off to look for something productive to do, ttyl
[01:14] <kihai> Hi guys, I have a problem I hope someone can help me with: How do I enable Usb-Stick acces on the thin clients on Edubuntu 6.06 or else, is it possible to install LTSP 4.2 on a already running LTSP environment on Edubuntu? I am running a 16 clients pool in a professional environment and beginning from next week I need the usb stick support...
[03:46] <cbx33> hey highvoltage 
[03:48] <highvoltage> hi cbx33 
[03:48] <cbx33> howz it all going?
[03:49] <highvoltage> peaceful
[03:49] <cbx33> heheh
[03:49] <highvoltage> just went to the gym again for the first time in like 3 weeks, i'm terribly unfit
[04:15] <DanielC> gym is good for you :)
[04:26] <Yagisan> kihai: we don't support local devices with (ed)ubuntu 6.06. We use a different ltsp setup to ltsp.org's ltsp 4.2, so that would be unsupported (and cause trouble when you upgrade)
[04:28] <DanielC> Yagisan: By "we don't support local devices" do you mean that a terminal user couldn't read a file from his USB key?
[04:30] <Yagisan> I mean, cd's, dvds, usb sticks etc, at the moment, to the best of my knowledge, are pretty paperweights in the ltsp terminals
[04:30] <DanielC> :(
[04:30] <DanielC> That's bad.
[04:31] <DanielC> Will they work for Edgy?
[04:31] <Yagisan> it's good for me
[04:31] <Yagisan> at this stage
[04:31] <Yagisan> I believe there is work for in on edgy, but I've been out of the loop a little while
[04:31] <DanielC> We're working on a project here where local access to usb keys would be crucial.
[04:31] <Yagisan> s/in on/it on
[04:32] <DanielC> I'll ask ogra when he's around.
[04:32] <DanielC> Does it work in plain vanilla ltsp.org?
[04:33] <Yagisan> never tried, I only worked on the ubuntu ltsp stuff
[04:33] <DanielC> k
[04:33] <DanielC> thanks
[04:34] <Yagisan> no problem
[04:34] <Yagisan> DanielC: you could always do what I did
[04:34] <DanielC> ?
[04:34] <Yagisan> send ogra a patch to make it do what you want
[04:34] <DanielC> :)
[04:35] <cbx33> Yagisan, just hte man
[04:35] <Yagisan> the multi-arch server support grew out of a patch I sent
[04:35] <cbx33> local devices is planned for edgy
[04:36] <cbx33> Yagisan, i need to clean up some diskspace
[04:36] <cbx33> can i delete the folder ? /usr/share/games/deng/Data/jHeretic/
[04:38] <cbx33> and the hexen one
[04:39] <Yagisan> cbx33: ah, did you remove all addon packs that refer to it ?
[04:39] <cbx33> not usre
[04:39] <cbx33> s'y i need help
[04:39] <cbx33> I'm only going to play doom and doom II
[04:40] <cbx33> how can i remove all the others
[04:40] <Yagisan> ls -l and pastebin it for me. if the only contents is jhexen.wad or jheretic.wad please leave it
[04:40] <Yagisan> or the package won't uninstall correctly
[04:40] <cbx33> the deng package?
[04:41] <cbx33> i have a usr/share/games/doom
[04:41] <cbx33> and a games/deng folder
[04:42] <cbx33> which is the right one
[04:42] <cbx33> hwo do i remove the other?
[04:43] <Yagisan> cbx33: usr/share/games/doom is where policy says I must install the doom(2).wad files
[04:43] <Yagisan> usr/share/games/deng is private doomsday data
[04:44] <cbx33> but i have wads in both
[04:44] <cbx33> and they are identical
[04:44] <Yagisan> cbx33: jdoom.wad, jheretic.wad, and jhexem.wad is private data
[04:44] <Yagisan> ??
[04:45] <cbx33> diff /usr/share/games/deng/Data/jDoom/doom2.wad /usr/share/games/doom/iwad/doom2/doom2.wad shows 2 identical files
[04:45] <Yagisan> cbx33: half a sec
[04:45] <cbx33> ok
[04:48] <Yagisan> cbx33: /usr/share/games/doom/iwad/doom2/doom2.wad  is from my installer. keep it
[04:48] <cbx33> :(
[04:48] <Yagisan> kill the other one
[04:48] <cbx33> ah ok
[04:49] <cbx33> so can i removed all the wds in the jdoom folder?
[04:50] <Yagisan> not all
[04:50] <Yagisan> keep jdoom.was
[04:50] <Yagisan> er
[04:50] <Yagisan> jdoom.wad
[04:50] <Yagisan> and jheretic.wad, and jhexen.waf
[04:50] <Yagisan> s/waf/wad
[04:56] <cbx33> Yagisan, you got a sec to talk about coding and packaging?
[04:57] <Yagisan> fire away. if I don't answer I ran out of time
[04:57] <cbx33> ok
[04:57] <cbx33> say I'm developing some code
[04:57] <cbx33> and it's al in one source dir
[04:57] <cbx33> cos it's just some python stuff
[04:58] <cbx33> when I install it, it'll be moved to a different location, and some parts will be split
[04:58] <cbx33> do i setup symlinks in my coding environment to simulate this?
[04:58] <cbx33> how do i handle it?||
[04:59] <Yagisan> don't hardcode locations if possible
[04:59] <Yagisan> search the path
[04:59] <cbx33> ?
[04:59] <cbx33> can you givem an example
[05:00] <Yagisan> does your code depend on it being all in one directory ? (have a package for me to check ?)
[05:00] <cbx33> hmm....
[05:00] <cbx33> the binary will be in in /usr/bin
[05:01] <cbx33> everything else, etc glade file, python includes and images for glade will be in usr/share/gisomount
[05:03] <Yagisan> brb
[05:03] <Yagisan> my son puked on the keyboard
[05:03] <cbx33> oh
[05:03] <cbx33> ok
[05:16] <Yagisan> re
[05:17] <highvoltage> is your son ok?
[05:17] <Yagisan> yeah, he ate too much
[05:17] <Yagisan> he's as happy as can be right now
[05:17] <Yagisan> (and he wants more food o_O )
[05:20] <highvoltage> last time i threw up wasn't too pleasant. i had way, way too much to drink. when i puked i aimed for the toilet but it was spinning round the room too fast.
[05:22] <Yagisan> heh
[05:22] <Yagisan> I lat puked after geting food posioning at subway
[05:23] <Yagisan> I covered the halway and bathroom
[05:23] <highvoltage> geepers
[05:23] <Yagisan> never made it close to the toilet
[05:23] <Yagisan> I was still going when the amubulance arrived
[05:27] <highvoltage> i wouldn't either if that happened to me
[05:27] <highvoltage> the subway in france is very weird, they don't have cheese :/
[05:27] <Amaranth> i got food poisoning from a subway once too
[05:28] <Amaranth> made it to my bedroom doorway :p
[05:28] <Amaranth> no ambulance though, i just puked for 10 minutes, drank some water, and went back to bed :P
[05:31] <Yagisan> I got it so bad, my wife freaked
[05:31] <Yagisan> I have an "iron stomach"
[05:31] <Yagisan> most food that goes in, stays in
[05:31] <Yagisan> that day
[05:31] <Yagisan> 17 people got sick at that subway ...
[05:32] <Yagisan> I head a few of the others did
[05:32] <Yagisan> s/head/heard
[05:36] <cbx33> Yagisan, if the food just goes in ans stays in don't you grow extremely large?
[05:36] <cbx33> extremely quickly ?
[05:36] <cbx33> :p
[05:38] <Yagisan> cbx33: no, because thinking up witty retorts burns off all that food
[05:38] <cbx33> ah
[05:39] <cbx33> heheh
[05:39] <jsgotangco> ?
[05:39] <jsgotangco> ?
[05:39] <Yagisan> jsgotangco: food poisoning chat
[05:40] <jsgotangco> ewww
[05:41] <cbx33> oooh
[05:41] <cbx33> kewl
[05:41] <jsgotangco> http://www.opera.com/products/devices/nintendo/features/
[05:41] <cbx33> cool
[05:42] <Yagisan> "oh look at him playing with his nintendo"
[05:43] <jsgotangco> lol
[05:43] <jsgotangco> the psp has a browser as well but its horrible
[05:43] <jsgotangco> i will probably purchase this one
[05:44] <jsgotangco> i just collect pocket game decks
[08:54] <bddebian> Howdy
[08:59] <highvoltage> howdy bddebian 
[08:59] <highvoltage> goodnight bddebian 
[09:00] <bddebian> Hi highvoltage, Gnight highvoltage
[09:21] <Amaranth> hmm
[09:21] <Amaranth> today was going to be willow hacking day but it looks like it just turned into alacarte release day
[10:30] <spacey> Amaranth: back to willow?
[10:30] <Amaranth> no
[12:03] <pygi> bddebian, poke?
[12:03] <bddebian> Yo
[12:04] <pygi> so you suggest hacking servers? :P
[12:04] <bddebian> Of course ;-)
[12:05] <pygi> bddebian, eh :)