[12:07] <bluesceada> gatekeeper: yeh but no fix yet :/
[12:07] <GullyFoyle> bluesceada: you may want to try DSL (DamnSmallLinux)
[12:08] <bluesceada> yah it's not that old laptop
[12:08] <bluesceada> it has 1000 mhz
[12:08] <dr_willis> my main fileserver is only 1.4 ghz
[12:08] <gemidjy> anyone here able to help me?
[12:09] <gemidjy> damn, I asked like 100 questions no one helps
[12:09] <dr_willis> i just got here.
[12:09] <dr_willis> :P
[12:11] <gatekeeper> gemidjy: have you tried installing the specific lib it wants?
[12:11] <bluesceada> GullyFoyle: sry, really want to stay with something bigger..
[12:11] <slow-motion> n8
[12:12] <gemidjy> gatekeeper: yes, but it has to do that I have kde 3.5.3 installed packages and the kdebase-dev package is from kde 3.5.2
[12:12] <GullyFoyle> bluesceada: did you try http://www.linux-laptop.net/. people post there X config files there and where they got drivers (s0metimes)
[12:13] <gatekeeper> gemidjy: there is no kdebase-dev package for 3.5.3?
[12:14] <gemidjy> nope in the mirrors from kubuntu.org
[12:14] <bluesceada> GullyFoyle: my laptop isnt listed there
[12:14] <gemidjy> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php
[12:14] <bluesceada> and it's not the xorg.conf
[12:14] <bluesceada> i set same values like in knoppix
[12:14] <bluesceada> where it is working...
[12:14] <GullyFoyle> bluesceada: ah
[12:14] <bluesceada> it's a bug which just exists in kubuntu
[12:17] <gemidjy> gatekeeper: http://pastebin.ca/82774
[12:19] <bluesceada> but there are also other bugs in the trident driver
[12:19] <gatekeeper> gemidjy: I would say you need newer versions of all those pacakages
[12:19] <bluesceada> i think i should sell that laptop :/
[12:19] <bluesceada> or use windows..
[12:19] <gemidjy> gatekeeper: well they are the newest I suppose...
[12:20] <swhalen> Hi. How do I set up auto mountting in kubuntu?
[12:21] <swhalen> anyone?
[12:21] <bluesceada> swhalen: try installing ivman
[12:21] <gatekeeper> gemidjy: you have a miss match you need a complete set of KDE stuff ALL compiled at the same time
[12:22] <gemidjy> I use mirror bro
[12:22] <gemidjy> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php
[12:24] <gatekeeper> gemidjy: is kdebase-dev 3.5.3 listed anywhere in your package manager?
[12:24] <mortalman> I'm having a little trouble getting used to kubuntu coming from debian(stable).    Does  apt-get work by default, and if so, is there a limited amount of packages available?
[12:24] <gemidjy> gatekeeper: yes
[12:24] <gatekeeper> mortalman: yes and no hang on...
[12:25] <z00m_> hey just got gaim install
[12:25] <z00m_> installed
[12:25] <h3sp4wn> !repos
[12:25] <gemidjy> gatekeeper:
[12:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:25] <gemidjy> apt-cache search kdebase-dev
[12:25] <gemidjy> kdebase-dev - development files for the KDE base module
[12:25] <gatekeeper> mortalman: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[12:25] <bluesceada> mortalman: you can add different repositories
[12:25] <mortalman> z00m_:  autopackage?
[12:25] <h3sp4wn> mortalman: see !repos
[12:25] <z00m_> yes
[12:25] <z00m_> its grate, got msn / irc and loads more in one
[12:25] <mortalman> z00m_: 2.0.0beta3 ?
[12:26] <z00m_> 1.5
[12:26] <gatekeeper> mortalman: you can also use synaptic as the GUI package manager apt-get install synaptic
[12:26] <z00m_> version 1.5.1
[12:27] <mortalman> z00m_: There is an autopackage for 2.0.0beta3.  There's a link to the file list on the main gaim page.  8-)
[12:27] <mortalman> gatekeeper: sweet, thanks
[12:28] <z00m_> mortalman: might be buggy though, is there any good changes ?
[12:28] <gatekeeper> gemidjy: this is only an educated guess, but I am guessing you need to uninstall kdebase-dev 3.5.2 and replace it with kdebase-dev 3.5.3 I have no idea if this will break your system so be warned!!
[12:28] <gemidjy> gatekeeper: I do have 3.5.3, do u understand me?
[12:29] <gatekeeper> gemidjy: in that case you must have older versions of Kate etc that haven't been replaced as I said originally
[12:30] <gemidjy> nope, all new versions
[12:30] <gatekeeper> yes!
[12:30] <gemidjy> ii  kate                                   3.5.3-0ubuntu0.2                      advanced text editor for KDE
[12:30] <gemidjy> but that is stupid...
[12:31] <gatekeeper> one or the other is installed
[12:31] <gatekeeper> this is a dependency problem!!
[12:31] <gemidjy> I noticed that
[12:31] <bluesceada> hm
[12:31] <gemidjy> thanks for the help gatekeeper will see what will do
[12:32] <gatekeeper> you get it if everything is not ALL compiled and linked at the same time
[12:32] <bluesceada> anyone knows what could be different with kubuntu than with knoppix which prevents the trident driver to display correct
[12:32] <bluesceada> it's not xorg.conf and it's not just the trident driver
[12:32] <h3sp4wn> Edgy has 4:3.5.3-2ubuntu3 (kdebase-dev)
[12:33] <gatekeeper> gemidjy: I can make our own software have the same problem , compile link exe on Win 2000 server dll's on Win Xp same problem!!
[12:34] <gemidjy> gatekeeper: I don't understand what you mean, and those !! at the end seems nervouse
[12:35] <swhalen> does anyone know how to get mythtv to ask you for the root password and recreate the db?
[12:37] <gatekeeper> gemidjy: in order for everything to work everything in the KDE project (base system + apps) MUST be compiled and linked together and installed as one big pacakage, I was trying to explain how I could create the same problem with our own software (I am a C++ developer) so my appologies if some of this is not very clear
[12:38] <infyquest> hi i have raised bug 52302
[12:38] <gemidjy> ok
[12:38] <infyquest> anybody tell me how get rid of that
[12:38] <infyquest> bug
[12:38] <infyquest> i need wifi on my laoptop
[12:38] <infyquest> i removed da previous kernel
[12:39] <LouKall> hi, i was wondering how i get AmaroK to play my MP3 files?
[12:39] <BazziR> !restrictedformats
[12:39] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:39] <BazziR> LouKall  ^
[12:39] <gatekeeper> gemidjy: you should always do a backup before embarking on these types of things, done some googling and it seems to have broken a number of people systems
[12:39] <LouKall> thank you.
[12:40] <gatekeeper> gemidjy: sorry I could not be more help, good luck :-)
[12:40] <infyquest> can any body tell me where to find ben cooper
[12:41] <infyquest> oops its ben collins
[12:41] <khaije1> he's chilling w/ Bobby Fisher
[12:41] <infyquest> good ;)
[12:42] <h3sp4wn> Is Bobby Fisher not in getting sent back to america ?
[12:43] <kojak> hi anyone know what this error in kaffience means Loading of player part 'unnamed' failed.
[12:45] <saperDuper> hi. i put the kubuntu 6.06 cd i just downloaded in my pc and i get the following error message while booting the kernel: crc error.Kernel panic -not syncing:VFS:Unable to mount rootfs on unknown block (1,0). any ideas?
[12:46] <z00m_> is there any good spaceship games for kubuntu ?
[12:46] <z00m_> scroller' s
[12:47] <swhalen> does anyone know how to get mythtv to ask you for the root password and recreate the db?
[12:48] <swhalen> anyone?
[12:49] <LouKall> i have mpeglib...
[12:49] <h3sp4wn> !nswrapper
[12:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about nswrapper
[12:49] <LouKall> how do i install it?
[12:49] <bluesceada> ndiswrapper
[12:49] <bluesceada> !ndiswrapper
[12:49] <ubotu> wifi is Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[12:50] <saperDuper> hi. i put the kubuntu 6.06 cd i just downloaded in my pc and i get the following error message while booting the kernel: crc error.Kernel panic -not syncing:VFS:Unable to mount rootfs on unknown block (1,0). any ideas?
[12:51] <SystematicDub> swhalen: It seems that no one on this chat knows how to figure out your prob or they don't know what mythtv is. (like me until now)  Have you tried to google the problem?
[12:51] <h3sp4wn> bluesceada: Cheers but thats not what I was looking for - I want the doc's on the thing which allows you to use 32 bit plugins with firefox 64 (May get an amd 64 if I will think it will work)
[12:51] <swhalen> yes
[12:51] <swhalen> its a deb thing
[12:51] <bluesceada> oh sry...
[12:51] <almien> saperDuper: how sure are you that your downloaded CD doesn't contain any errors?
[12:52] <almien> was it downloaded properly?
[12:52] <SystematicDub> swhalen: What do you mean by deb?
[12:53] <swhalen> somthing tthaat runs at the install of the deb file
[12:53] <saperDuper> almien: i checked the .iso's md5 has and it' not cirrupt
[12:53] <saperDuper> corrupt
[12:53] <swhalen> its a wizard
[12:56] <SystematicDub> swhalen:  Ok, just learned something new...Alright about mythtv....I see that it's a personal video recorder like TiVo...It seems too have alot of support (the other day someone had the same problem as you) does it have an IRC or forum
[12:57] <animal> hey guys, im having an issue... my sound was running just fine, now i installed a few things and it stopped working... i rebooted to try to fix it, but no luck
[12:57] <khaije1> SystematicDub: i would recc' the mailing lists too, they are *very* active!
[12:59] <animal> I get an error that says couldn't open audio but it worked before
[12:59] <SystematicDub> khaijel: very?  hehe as in sarcastic very active?
[01:02] <SystematicDub> khaije1: Man I feel sooo dumb right now.  What do you mean by recc?
[01:02] <khaije1> recc = reccomend = i'm lazy :-)
[01:03] <khaije1> oh no, by very active i mean hundreds a day
[01:04] <khaije1> SystematicDub: just as you said the community is very active so there is a lot of discussion on the mailing lists
[01:04] <SystematicDub> khaije1: Hahaha yeah I know what you mean by lazy!  Oh, and man hundreds...dang!  I saw it was active but thats alot.
[01:04] <LouKall> i like beating puppies.
[01:05] <Howitzer> LouKall, shut it
[01:05] <khaije1> LouKall: at videogames?
[01:05] <LouKall> haha
[01:05] <LouKall> no.
[01:05] <LouKall> im just messin around.
[01:05] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[01:05] <LouKall> oh god.
[01:05] <LouKall> theres always one guy..
[01:05] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: rock linux ?
[01:05] <LouKall> "duuuuude, linux is totally awesomeness...."
[01:06] <larson9999> my daily affirmation
[01:06] <LouKall> of what?
[01:06] <LouKall> of everyday knowledge.
[01:06] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: www.rocklinux.org
[01:06] <larson9999> of linux rocking
[01:06] <LouKall> how very sad that you are confined to having to confirm easy thinking...
[01:06] <khaije1> SystematicDub: ya you should make sure you are comfortable w/ your mail client before you take on the volume, b/c it is a good amount
[01:07] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: i've seen that site.  one tends to get it a lot when one posts 'linux rocks!' once a day.
[01:07] <larson9999> LouKall: yes.  and my only criteria for success is that i wake up.
[01:07] <LouKall> one is pretty stupid.
[01:08] <khaije1> SystematicDub: i set it up w/ pop3 via gmail into kmail/kontact then set a few rules to help manage it,
[01:08] <LouKall> wow.
[01:08] <LouKall> great that you can accomplish everything in one day.
[01:08] <larson9999> makes for a short todo list
[01:08] <SystematicDub> khaije1: Yeah I bet!  Okay got to jet.
[01:08] <LouKall> hell, in one minute.
[01:09] <larson9999> it's interesting that i take more crap for posting that than 'windows rocks!'
[01:09] <LouKall> lmao. why would you ever need to post that?
[01:09] <LouKall> another daily affirmation?
[01:09] <LouKall> thats pretty ludicrous.
[01:09] <larson9999> lmao i post that as a control measure
[01:10] <LouKall> hahahahah
[01:12] <larson9999> LouKall: it didn't mean as much back in the 90's when i couldn't set my printer or joystick up :)
[01:13] <qbit> amarok just won't work no matter whay I do or try; it shouldn't be in the distribution until it works when the distro is installed
[01:14] <Howitzer> qbit, what is the problem?
[01:14] <Howitzer> it won't play mp3s?
[01:14] <qbit> yup
[01:14] <Howitzer> sigh
[01:14] <Howitzer> !restrictedformats
[01:14] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:14] <qbit> xmms works so I'll just remove it and forget about it
[01:14] <BazziR> it's like the most frequently asked question ever
[01:14] <domi>  hi, I have a little question concerning konqueror
[01:15] <domi>  for the drag n drop, if you drag a file upon a directory, you enter directly on this directory, is it possible to deactivate that ?
[01:15] <BazziR> there should really be a link to this guide on the desktop right after install
[01:15] <qbit> yeah - well if it doesn't work with the base install out of the box it should be removed
[01:15] <Howitzer> qbit, it does work with the base
[01:15] <BazziR> qbit: it would be ILLEGAL to work out of the box
[01:15] <h3sp4wn> qbit: Works fine for ogg's
[01:15] <Howitzer> except only with .ogg's
[01:15] <qbit> it never has for me; not once
[01:15] <larson9999> works for me just fine
[01:15] <Howitzer> qbit, follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats ffs
[01:15] <Howitzer> then come back
[01:16] <BazziR> amarok is generally seen as the best music player on the market, or second best after foobar2000 maybe
[01:16] <Howitzer> indeed
[01:16] <Howitzer> i find it the best one around
[01:16] <Midspeed> is there anyway i could delete or copy a file from Kubuntu 6.06 to a Windows XP (NTFS) partition
[01:16] <Midspeed> ?
[01:16] <domi> no one ?
[01:16] <Howitzer> Midspeed, yes, but it would be dangerous, so it may not be worth it
[01:16] <Midspeed> what is it
[01:17] <Midspeed> and why would it be dangerous
[01:17] <Midspeed> ?
[01:17] <Howitzer> domi, i think that's an option
[01:17] <Midspeed> theres got to be a safe way right?
[01:17] <domi> Howitzer I could not manage to find a corresponding option
[01:17] <Howitzer> Midspeed, NTFS read/write support is highly experimental
[01:17] <OOD> Midspeed: you can do it from XP with explore2fs http://www.chrysocome.net/explore2fs
[01:17] <Midspeed> oh, so i can cut a file from linux to windows?
[01:17] <h3sp4wn> Midspeed: Safe way is don't use ntfs on linux - half safe way is use captive ntfs - unsafe way is use linux ntfs write support
[01:19] <Midspeed> so i can do it from windows xp no proiblem with that explore2fs
[01:19] <Midspeed> ?
[01:19] <OOD> yes it allows you to read your linux partition from windows
[01:19] <OOD> so you can just copy the files over
[01:19] <domi> There is a better way than using explore2fs
[01:20] <Howitzer> i swear i saw a 'Drag 'n Drop' button somewhere
[01:20] <Midspeed> what else?
[01:20] <Midspeed> what the other option DOMI
[01:20] <domi> http://www.fs-driver.org/ it is transparent for the user and works fine
[01:21] <Midspeed> ok thanks
[01:21] <OOD> i'd avoid using it
[01:21] <OOD> it gave me a blue screen of death
[01:21] <domi> why ood ?
[01:21] <angasule> umh, is it normal that my locale is set to en_AU ? I don't recall choosing australian english
[01:21] <OOD> nevermind, i haven't tried this one yet
[01:21] <Midspeed> the deadly screen i dread
[01:21] <OOD> it was another one
[01:21] <domi> I never encountered this problem of bsod
[01:21] <Midspeed> i wouldnt have this problem if this was my computer, otherwise i would have enough space
[01:22] <angasule> is this a conspiracy to teach the world real aussie english?
[01:22] <Midspeed> i had to make a misly 20 gig partition for kubuntu and now i can add more space with powerquest partition magic
[01:22] <Howitzer> Midspeed, can't you use a FAT32 partition to share files between Linux and Windows?
[01:22] <Howitzer> angasule, check the KDM session thingy
[01:22] <domi> Fat32 sux ext3 rox
[01:23] <Midspeed> i have 10gigs of unallocated space and i cant create a darn partition
[01:23] <Midspeed> can you believe that
[01:23] <Midspeed> not with windows not with linux
[01:23] <Midspeed> its frustrating
[01:24] <Howitzer> Midspeed, tried cfdisk?
[01:24] <Midspeed> yeah
[01:24] <Midspeed> it says the space is UNUSABLE
[01:24] <larson9999> Midspeed: if you want to go from linux to ntfs, my recommendation is http://www.linux-ntfs.org/.  of course make backups.  well just follow the sight for instructions.
[01:24] <Midspeed> ok
[01:24] <Midspeed> any comments about LINUX NTFS that i should know?? :)
[01:24] <Howitzer> don't do it? xD
[01:24] <mortalman> Any idea how to enable growing/shrining of panel icons on mousover ?
[01:24] <Midspeed> ha ha ha
[01:24] <larson9999> Midspeed: i've used it plenty and haven't had any issues.
[01:24] <Midspeed> ok
[01:25] <angasule> Howitzer: I don't find any KDM session thingy, sorry :)
[01:25] <Midspeed> thank you everybody for the help
[01:25] <Midspeed> i will try at my own risk
[01:25] <Howitzer> angasule, click the KDE start menu, go to system settings and click on Login Manager
[01:26] <Howitzer> under the appearance field will be a Locale field
[01:26] <DaSkreech> Midspeed: don't get into the habit of using it
[01:27] <angasule> Howitzer: it has en_GB
[01:27] <Howitzer> Oo
[01:27] <Howitzer> ehm
[01:27] <angasule> well, it's clear it wants to be some kind of gringo, but can't decide which
[01:27] <Howitzer> can't really help then :x
[01:27] <angasule> maybe if I turn the computer upside down...
[01:27] <Howitzer> -_-
[01:28] <Howitzer> you don't like Aussies don't you? xD
[01:28] <larson9999> Midspeed: i started using that because i resized literally dozens of ntfs partitions with gparted with no issues whatever and gparted uses it and says its solid.
[01:28] <angasule> well, it annoys me a bit to put stuff in the 'garbage bin' instead of the 'trash'
[01:28] <Midspeed> gparted????
[01:29] <Midspeed> but i cant resize my linux partition or can i ?
[01:29] <Howitzer> gparted is a bootable CD aswell as a program
[01:29] <Howitzer> yes you can
[01:29] <DaSkreech> angasule: are you serious?
[01:29] <Howitzer> you can resize ext3 without problems
[01:29] <Midspeed> ok im gonna go for that
[01:29] <Midspeed> im gonna try gparted
[01:29] <Midspeed> before i do anything else
[01:29] <larson9999> http://gparted.sourceforge.net
[01:29] <Howitzer> sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:29] <angasule> DaSkreech: about the 'garbage bin'? or about turning the computer upside down?
[01:29] <larson9999> midspeed what do you want to do?
[01:30] <DaSkreech> The Garbage bin
[01:30] <larson9999> midspeed you can resize just about all the cool partition types with gparted
[01:30] <Midspeed> im installing gparted
[01:30] <larson9999> midspeed shrink and grow
[01:30] <Midspeed> the thing is that i have 10 gigs of unallocated space
[01:31] <larson9999> midspeed the partition has to be unmounted so it might be better to use the livecd
[01:31] <Midspeed> and i wanted to resize my linux partition but what happend, PARTITION MAGIC didnt do !#@$!$$#!@ for me :)
[01:31] <mortalman> Any idea how to enable growing/shrinking of panel icons on mousover ?
[01:31] <angasule> DaSkreech: well, it doesn't annoy me much, not really, but it's there :)
[01:31] <Midspeed> i tried partition magic it did nothing
[01:31] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: I updated both posts.  Thanks for that info
[01:31] <Howitzer> mortalman, the default KDE panel doesn't support this
[01:31] <larson9999> Midspeed: on the plus side PM is more expensive
[01:31] <DaSkreech> Midspeed: What are you trying to do Grow a partition over that?
[01:31] <Howitzer> you'd need kxdocker for that
[01:31] <angasule> I've set the locale to en_GB everywhere now, and I'll restart, at least that way I won't have to change the spellcheckers much
[01:32] <Midspeed> i want to give those 10 gigs to the linux partition
[01:32] <Midspeed> make it bigger!!!
[01:32] <DaSkreech> angasule: Cause normally people who find that irritating are normally a lot louder about it or they just fix it themselves :)
[01:32] <Howitzer> Midspeed, THEN RESIZE IT USING GPARTED
[01:32] <Howitzer> aargh
[01:32] <Howitzer> you're annoying me
[01:32] <Midspeed> gparted shows a lock on the partition
[01:32] <mortalman> Howitzer: untrue, but I'll keep looking.
[01:33] <Midspeed> on the EXT3 partition
[01:33] <Howitzer> mortalman, i'm pretty sure on this one
[01:33] <angasule> DaSkreech: actually I was laughing a lot, typing korean (I don't speak korean) and generally liking the much improved language support
[01:33] <mortalman> Howitzer: I assumed that. thanks
[01:33] <h3sp4wn> One advantage of reiserfs is if you need to resise it there is tools to do it pretty easily
[01:33] <larson9999> midspeed i'm pretty sure it has to be unmounted.
[01:34] <Midspeed> ok
[01:34] <Midspeed> so how am i gonna do this then
[01:34] <Midspeed> he he he
[01:34] <angasule> btw, I had trouble with the nvidia binary drivers, when I did the 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' it trashed the xorg.config, added a lot of lines about ATI, I had to get a backup and simply change nv -> nvidia
[01:34] <Howitzer> lol
[01:35] <Midspeed> help me out here
[01:35] <LouKall> okay heres a hint:you're dumb
[01:35] <larson9999> Midspeed: i told you to get the livecd
[01:35] <larson9999> lol
[01:35] <Midspeed> :'(
[01:35] <Howitzer> -_-
[01:35] <Midspeed> this might sound bad, but, i dont have a cdburner :'(
[01:35] <h3sp4wn> angasule: I think nvidia-xconfig is easiest to use (usually start with a blank xorg.conf)
[01:35] <Howitzer> crybaby
[01:36] <larson9999> Midspeed: or the thumbdrive version if you have a thumbdrive and no cd burner
[01:36] <LouKall> [best justin timberlake voice]  "cry me a river....cry me a river...."
[01:36] <omeow> How do I install this applet in Kubuntu? http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=23396
[01:36] <Ryoga85> is anyone here who knows hot to get dosbox working?
[01:36] <larson9999> or jsut want to save a cd
[01:36] <Howitzer> then use 500 floppy disks Midspeed
[01:36] <Midspeed> i wouldnt have this problem if this wouldnt be my girls pc :'( she was all hating about linux, but after she saw the power she likes it, now she hardly used windows, but wants to keep it JUST IN CASE
[01:36] <Midspeed> this computer doesnt have a floppy drive, darn dell
[01:36] <angasule> h3sp4wn: well, I'm only bitching because I followed the guide, which seems to be rather wrong, I did solve it eventually
[01:37] <Howitzer> Midspeed, download and burn it on your pc then?
[01:37] <larson9999> ryoag85 you just apt-get it and edit dosbox.conf so your drives get mounted.  there are front ends, too.
[01:37] <Midspeed> my pc is in new york and im in Canada right now
[01:37] <Midspeed> ha ha ha
[01:37] <Midspeed> what the hell was i thinking huh??
[01:37] <Howitzer> indeed
[01:37] <Howitzer> -_-
[01:37] <Howitzer> just die and leave me alone
[01:37] <h3sp4wn> angasule: I never follow the guides just use the docs from the website about the program I am trying to use (or sometimes the gentoo guides)
[01:37] <Howitzer> i'm pissed
[01:38] <Midspeed> ok sorry
[01:38] <Midspeed> thanks though for all the problem with this newb
[01:38] <Midspeed> :D
[01:38] <DaSkreech> Midspeed: Whats the issue?
[01:39] <h3sp4wn> angasule: Actually sometimes I use the debian guides also the ubuntu ones never seem to have much explanation of why only how
[01:39] <Midspeed> space
[01:39] <Midspeed> i need space in linux! cause i cant copy files from linux to that darn ntfs partition
[01:39] <DaSkreech> right how much do you need how much do you have?
[01:39] <Ryoga85> larson9999: my problem is that i can type neither / nor \, it's like my keymap is half-german and the other keys are dead
[01:39] <Midspeed> and i cant create nothing with that freaking 10 gigs cause it says i cant have more than 4 primary paritions
[01:40] <larson9999> Ryoga85: nice!  haven't seen that.
[01:40] <h3sp4wn> Midspeed: Just format the ntfs partition (she won't miss it ..........) well thats what I would do anyway
[01:40] <Midspeed> ha ha ha, she will miss it i know her
[01:40] <Midspeed> she has some important files there too
[01:40] <Midspeed> :(
[01:40] <larson9999> lol@h3sp4wn: Midspeed get your fooling around in first
[01:41] <Midspeed> ha ha ha, ok ok, im gonna leave and stop busting balls
[01:41] <h3sp4wn> Midspeed: Either she is bothered about computers (in which case she could sort it out herself) or she isn't so format it
[01:42] <Midspeed> ha ha ha
[01:42] <Midspeed> she would have a heart attack
[01:42] <Midspeed> im just gonna buy a darn hard disk
[01:42] <Midspeed> screw this
[01:42] <Midspeed> :'(
[01:42] <z00m_> need help mounting my USB harddrive
[01:42] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: Formated with ext3 ?
[01:43] <DaSkreech> Midspeed: That's why silly
[01:43] <DaSkreech> Midspeed: You can't have more than 4 primamry partitions
[01:43] <Midspeed> yeah yeah
[01:43] <DaSkreech> You have 4 partitions on the drive?
[01:43] <LouKall> duh duh duh
[01:43] <Ryoga85> larson9999: where is the .conf file?
[01:43] <z00m_> kappfinder: the drive did have pgp hole disk encryption but i removed the partition and try ed to format it to ext and it says format unknown
[01:44] <DaSkreech> omeow: It doesn't have README?
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: Is it /dev/sda ?
[01:44] <larson9999> Ryoga85: there is one in /etc i believe and your own would be in your home directory
[01:44] <mortalman> Anyone have any idea why packages.debian.org shows the KDE version as  5:47 when the latest release of kde is 3.5.3  ??
[01:44] <larson9999> Ryoga85: from what i remember the documentation on their site is pretty good.
[01:44] <z00m_> dev/sdc
[01:45] <omeow> DaSkreech: I think I compiled it now.
[01:45] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: sudo cfdisk /dev/sdc
[01:45] <z00m_> ill try that
[01:45] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: Delete the partition and make sure it is set to type linux
[01:45] <larson9999> Ryoga85: try to get v .65 it's much, much better than .63
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: Then make sure WRITE before you quit
[01:46] <pmorrison> Hello everyone... I'm a noob running dapper, and I just tried to install kubuntu-desktop with apt-get.  I get the error: "Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed" see the whole thing at: "http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17576"  can anyone help me? Thanks.
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: then sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdc1
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> Ryoga85: I have a deb built for dapper (properly) of dosbox 0.65
[01:48] <omeow> Hm, now my kicker constantly changes into a red slashed circle whenever my mouse cursor hovers over it.
[01:48] <Ryoga85> dosbox says "to activate the key mapper, press ctrl+f1", but my ctrl keys doesn't work with dosbox :'(
[01:48] <Ryoga85> h3sp4wn: how to get/install it?
[01:48] <h3sp4wn> Ryoga85: I will try to dcc it to you
[01:48] <pmorrison> Sorry, my wifi just reset... did anyone answer?
[01:49] <Ryoga85> won't work because of my router afaik
[01:49] <z00m_> h3sp4wn: it will leave the drive unpartitioned will it ?
[01:49] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: Create a new partition (using the whole disk)
[01:49] <z00m_> yes i did that i have just ran the sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdc1
[01:50] <Ryoga85> h3sp4wn: or try it, maybe it works
[01:50] <z00m_> its writing inode tables
[01:50] <DebbyIan> Has anyone here got Xgl working on ATI?
[01:51] <usp8riot> does anyone know a way to make a linux version of a .bat file to run a command with a click?
[01:51] <z00m_> Writing inode tables: done
[01:51] <z00m_> Creating journal (32768 blocks): done
[01:51] <z00m_> Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done
[01:51] <z00m_> This filesystem will be automatically checked every 28 mounts or
[01:51] <DaSkreech> !paste
[01:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:51] <Ryoga85> looks good :)
[01:51] <DaSkreech> !tell DebbyIan about XGL
[01:51] <DebbyIan> http://pastebin.ca/82789
[01:52] <DaSkreech> pmorrison: hi
[01:52] <z00m_> h3sp4wn: ok that is done now
[01:52] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: So the partition is /dev/sdc1 ?
[01:52] <z00m_> sdc
[01:53] <pmorrison> DaSkreechh: hello, sorry, seems like I have spotty wifi here... did anyone answer my question?
[01:53] <z00m_> its /dev/sdc
[01:53] <theine> Does anybody know whether there exist up to date packages for powersaved/kpowersave somewhere?
[01:53] <h3sp4wn> Ryoga85: sudo dpkg -i dosbox_0.65_i386.deb
[01:53] <Ryoga85> h3sp4wn: and how to install a .deb file?
[01:53] <Ryoga85> ah ty
[01:53] <z00m_> h3sp4wn: just looked on qtparted and it says that 11gb is used why is that ?
[01:54] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: How big is it ?
[01:54] <pmorrison> If anyone can help, I can't seem to install kubuntu....  check out my error msg at : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17576
[01:54] <Ryoga85> ah
[01:54] <LouKall> the best fun? putting four kitty cats into a plastic bag.
[01:54] <z00m_> 250gb
[01:54] <usp8riot> how do you uninstall a package downloaded with apt-get?
[01:54] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: Have you formatted it with mkfs.ext3 ?
[01:54] <Ryoga85> a full american keyboard layout now
[01:54] <z00m_> yes
[01:54] <Ryoga85> nice :)
[01:54] <D4m4ge> LouKall dont forget to seal them
[01:55] <D4m4ge> usp8riot apt-get remove
[01:55] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: With a partition that size you will always get some waste
[01:55] <dmitri> How do I access CUPS?  My user name and password both does not work.
[01:55] <pmorrison> Does anyone know why I can't install kubuntu-desktop with apt-get on Ubuntu dapper?  Error message-> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17576
[01:55] <usp8riot> D4m4ge: ok, thanks
[01:56] <h3sp4wn>  z00m_: If you remove it and put it back in again it should be auto detected
[01:56] <DebbyIan> Does anyone know what this means: X Error of failed request:  BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib length error
[01:56] <z00m_> but i dont think 239gb will be enough to store my txt files on ... lol   (just kidding) how do i mount it then so its under my storage media
[01:56] <z00m_> ok ill try power off then back on
[01:57] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: I don't know I just mount it using sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/usbdisk (whenever I need it)
[01:57] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: I don't like automatic mounting at all
[01:58] <z00m_> h3sp4wn: ok thanks for the help this channel is really good, want to thank everyone that has helped me today
[01:58] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: Can you access it now ?
[01:58] <pmorrison> DaSkreech: Are you still there?
[01:58] <h3sp4wn> Ryoga85: Did that work ?
[01:58] <DaSkreech> pmorrison: yes
[01:59] <Ryoga85> h3sp4wn: the keyboard problem is fixed, ty
[01:59] <Ryoga85> it's all american now, but thats better then half-dead *lol*
[01:59] <pmorrison> DaSkreech: Did you say hi cause you were being friendly, or did you have an answer when my internet cut out, and I missed it?
[01:59] <z00m_> h3sp4wn: yes it working fine thanks
[02:00] <DaSkreech> pmorrison: don't know I just wanted you to know you weren't being ignored. I'm looking over the messages now
[02:00] <DaSkreech> I've just been summoned though so I won't be here for long
[02:00] <h3sp4wn> Ryoga85: Do you need a uk keyboard ? - are you running freedos inside it ?
[02:00] <pmorrison> DaSkreech: Thank you, if you don't have time no worries...  I was wondering if I was being heard.
[02:00] <Ryoga85> i'm having a german keyboard
[02:01] <kubuntuneuling> hi
[02:01] <dr_willis> mooo
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> Ryoga85: try 'keyb de'
[02:01] <Ryoga85> where?
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> Ryoga85: From inside dos
[02:01] <serenity> heyho
[02:01] <kubuntuneuling> I have the following problem: when I boot my pc it boots normally but sticks in vt1 even though X is loaded as normal in vt7 and I can switch to it with ctrl+alt+f7. what can I do?
[02:01] <Ryoga85> it says illegal command
[02:01] <serenity> i am so drunken
[02:02] <DaSkreech> pmorrison: I assume that you are doing this from the command line?
[02:02] <pmorrison> serenity: way to go
[02:03] <serenity> i am german and our team won tonight
[02:03] <DaSkreech> :-) 3rd place!!
[02:03] <DaSkreech> pmorrison: I assume that you are doing this from the command line?
[02:03] <pmorrison> DaSkreech: I've tried from the shell, and from the add/remove package manager under applications in gnome.  I get the same error message each time. Could it be I need to add some repositories to my sources.list?
[02:03] <DaSkreech> You shouldn't need to
[02:04] <DaSkreech> can You do an apt-cache search kdegraphics-kfile-plugins for me?
[02:05] <DaSkreech> pmorrison: What does that give you?
[02:06] <Ryoga85> h3sp4wn: is there a way to get folders mounted automatically?
[02:06] <pmorrison> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17579
[02:07] <Ryoga85> in dosbox i mean
[02:07] <DaSkreech> pmorrison: apt-get install kdegraphics-kfile-plugins
[02:07] <h3sp4wn> Ryoga85: I don't know much about it - Just rebuilt the deb with a new version (so that someone did not use a checkinstall deb)
[02:08] <Ryoga85> ok
[02:09] <pmorrison> DaSkreech: The following packages have unmet dependencies: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins: Depends: libpoppler1-qt (>= 0.5.1) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages
[02:09] <DaSkreech> hmm aptitude search poppler
[02:09] <pmorrison> DaSkreech: So, any ideas?
[02:10] <DaSkreech> do an aptitude search poppler
[02:10] <Frederick> folks does anyone here has a descent color scheme for konsole?
[02:11] <DaSkreech> Frederick: Doubt it :)
[02:11] <pmorrison> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17580
[02:12] <Frederick> DaSkreech, ?
[02:12] <DaSkreech> pmorrison: Which version are you on?
[02:12] <DaSkreech> Breezy or dapper?
[02:12] <pmorrison> Dapper 6.06 new install
[02:13] <DaSkreech> Hmm. Ubuntu I take it?
[02:14] <DaSkreech> can you paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list for me?
[02:14] <pmorrison> DaSkreech: should I give up?
[02:14] <DaSkreech> can you paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list for me?
[02:14] <pmorrison> yes...  shouldn't it work?
[02:15] <DaSkreech> You may have something important commented out
[02:15] <h3sp4wn> pmorrison: Using any unofficial repositories ? All the packages you should need are in main
[02:15] <DaSkreech> paste the contents of that file for me then hit reload (or use apt-get update)
[02:16] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: He's getting version issues on a pristine install
[02:16] <angasule> weird, the locale is set to en_AU
[02:16] <angasule> even though I changed and rebooted the system...
[02:16] <z00m_> h3sp4wn: im having problems trying to write files to the disk access denied
[02:17] <larson99> i didn't quit
[02:17] <DaSkreech> pmorrison: Assuming of course you are a he :)
[02:17] <larson99> crap. this connection
[02:17] <angasule> it's only the console locale that's wrong, apparently
[02:17] <larson99> roadrunner is dumping today
[02:17] <larson99> in 30 minutes my nick will just be la
[02:17] <pmorrison> stumped?
[02:17] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: Where it mounted ?
[02:18] <DaSkreech> pmorrison: pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list for me
[02:18] <DaSkreech> Then you can hit reload or type sudo apt-get update
[02:18] <h3sp4wn> pmorrison: grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list (more useful than the whole file)
[02:18] <Ryoga85> ah, a first success, I got Utopia working with dosbox...
[02:19] <dmitri> Why does not CUPS recognize my password?  What password and username do I use?
[02:19] <angasule> !repositories
[02:19] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:19] <angasule> !easysource
[02:19] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:19] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: I'm getting calls that I should be elsewhere can you help pmorrison?
[02:19] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: Where is the disk mounted (run mount) it will be /media/somewhere
[02:19] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Possibly with suitable information
[02:20] <pmorrison> sorry lag.  I've updated  sources.list with autoatix...  I will post it... one second.
[02:20] <h3sp4wn> Automatix almost certainly broke it
[02:20] <DaSkreech> Well as near as I can get 6.06 Ubuntu was installed then they used apt-get to get kubuntu-desktop installed
[02:20] <ebaad> hello everybody
[02:21] <ebaad> any body from ca
[02:21] <DaSkreech> which threw http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17576
[02:21] <z00m_> h3sp4wn: its mounted on system:/media/sdc1
[02:21] <DaSkreech> I'm confused though since if it knows about kubuntu-desktop it should know about kdegraphics-kfile-plugins
[02:22] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: Right click the drive (on the desktop and press mount)
[02:22] <LouKall> anybody like joy division?
[02:23] <larson99> joy division?
[02:23] <h3sp4wn> I like them but that is offtopic
[02:23] <LouKall> yeah JD
[02:23] <LouKall> early 80s
[02:23] <LouKall> post punk
[02:23] <z00m_> h3sp4wn: it already mounted it just says remove safely
[02:23] <pmorrison> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17582
[02:24] <ebaad> hello
[02:24] <pmorrison> Stupid automatix... got y wmv files to play though!
[02:24] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: sudo mkdir /media/sdc/files
[02:25] <DaSkreech> pmorrison: Do an update and try kubuntu-desktop again
[02:25] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: sudo chown yourusername:yourusername /media/sdc/files (you should then be able to write to files)
[02:25] <z00m_> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/sdc/files': No such file or directory
[02:25] <DaSkreech> Gotta run
[02:26] <pmorrison> update didn't help last night, but will try again. thanks DaSkreech
[02:26] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: sudo mkdir -p /media/usbdisk && mount /dev/sdc1 /media/usbdisk
[02:27] <h3sp4wn> pmorrison: remove the repositories at the bottom added by automatix
[02:27] <z00m_> mount: only root can do that
[02:27] <pmorrison> no luck this time either!
[02:27] <z00m_> shall i just change the permissions on the drive ?
[02:27] <z00m_> to everyone ?
[02:27] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/usbdisk
[02:28] <z00m_> still getting access denied
[02:28] <z00m_> :(
[02:28] <z00m_> wait ill try to unmount it then mount it with that command
[02:29] <pmorrison> h3sp4wn: will try.. just a sec
[02:29] <z00m_> no its still not working :(
[02:30] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: Replug it in but when it asks do you want to open it say no
[02:30] <LouKall> where do i get SUPpositories?
[02:30] <RawSewage> lol
[02:30] <LouKall> :D
[02:31] <LouKall> i always think of that when i see the word repositories.
[02:31] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: then pastebin  dmesg | grep sdc
[02:31] <z00m_> ok done that do i now use the mount command
[02:31] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: yes try the mount command
[02:31] <RawSewage> at the drugstore maybe
[02:32] <z00m_> still not workin
[02:32] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: What is still not working you are not being clear
[02:32] <pmorrison> h3sp4wn: tried removing the automatix lines, did an update, and still no luck
[02:33] <z00m_> its still not allowing me to make a folder on the drive its saying access denied
[02:33] <z00m_> !pastebin
[02:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:33] <dr_willis> automatix claims another victem! :P
[02:33] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: You have to make the directory as root and change the ownership of it to your user
[02:33] <pmorrison> ak!
[02:34] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: i.e sudo mkdir -p /media/usbdisk/files && chown yourusername:yourusername /media/usbdisk/files
[02:35] <z00m_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17583
[02:35] <pmorrison> the other things I installed are xgl/compiz, and vware server...  but I doubt these are interfering
[02:36] <h3sp4wn> pmorrison: Compiz/xgl updates stuff without providing newer versions of the required dependancies
[02:37] <h3sp4wn> pmorrison: If you install it from the repos anyway
[02:38] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: run sudo -i
[02:38] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: cd /media/usbdisk
[02:39] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: mkdir files (or whatever you want the directory to be called)
[02:39] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: chown z00m:z00m files
[02:40] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Chown
[02:40] <pmorrison> h3sp4wn: I am using gnome now without Compiz/xgl right now...  hmm, so you think I f****d my installation?  Is there a way to install kubuntu now?
[02:40] <h3sp4wn> pmorrison: What are the files that can't be installed ?
[02:42] <h3sp4wn> pmorrison: It is possible to downgrade some of the libraries
[02:42] <z00m_> h3sp4wn: sorted it out now thanks
[02:42] <h3sp4wn> pmorrison: That the beer or kid repository has put in
[02:42] <pmorrison> h3sp4wn:  kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed, The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:42] <pmorrison>   kdegraphics-kfile-plugins: Depends: libpoppler1-qt (>= 0.5.1) but it is not going to be installed... <- I get these error messages when I try apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:44] <h3sp4wn> pmorrison: and sudo apt-get install libpoppler1-qt fails ?
[02:45] <pmorrison> h3sp4wn:  libpoppler1-qt: Depends: libpoppler1 (= 0.5.1-0ubuntu7) but 0.5.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[02:45] <h3sp4wn> pmorrison: apt-cache policy libpoppler1-qt
[02:46] <pmorrison> libpoppler1-qt: Installed: (none)   Candidate: 0.5.1-0ubuntu7   Version table:      0.5.1-0ubuntu7 0         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[02:47] <sysrpl> has anyone here used the mono project much? i am getting a strange crash when i run the monodoc program -> QPixmap::operator=: Cannot assign to pixmap during painting
[02:47] <sysrpl> does that mean anything to anyone?
[02:47] <sysrpl> google hasn't help me out on it :p
[02:48] <D4m4ge> bye
[02:48] <pmorrison> h3sp4wn: are we getting anywhere?
[02:48] <LouKall> fuck
[02:48] <h3sp4wn> pmorrison: apt-cache policy libpoppler1
[02:50] <LouKall> fuc
[02:50] <pmorrison> libpoppler1:
[02:50] <pmorrison>   Installed: 0.5.3-0ubuntu1
[02:50] <pmorrison>   Candidate: 0.5.3-0ubuntu1
[02:50] <pmorrison>   Version table:
[02:50] <pmorrison>  *** 0.5.3-0ubuntu1 0
[02:50] <pmorrison>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[02:50] <pmorrison>      0.5.1-0ubuntu7 0
[02:50] <pmorrison>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[02:50] <h3sp4wn> pmorrison: sudo apt-get install libpoppler1=0.5.1-0ubuntu7
[02:52] <pmorrison> h3sp4wn: OK, removed a few packages, downgraded some, should it work now?
[02:52] <h3sp4wn> pmorrison: It should say its downgrading it - then you should hopefully be able to install kubuntu-desktop (unless it has broken more stuff)
[02:53] <RawSewage> how do I install a zip file as an icon theme?
[02:53] <RawSewage> I have a folder of icons
[02:54] <RawSewage> how do I install it
[02:54] <pmorrison> h3sp4wn: success! I wonder if anything else broke because of the removed packages?
[02:54] <RawSewage> the folder only has .png files
[02:54] <h3sp4wn> pmorrison: I would expect only things relating to beer or kid (i.e xgl / compiz related stuff)
[02:55] <LouKall> so anyway, about these kitty cats...
[02:55] <LouKall> its awesome to see them catch their claws on the plastic bag...
[02:56] <h3sp4wn> pmorrison: I would expect it should now be fine
[02:56] <RawSewage> I messed up my Konqueror.  When I start it, it uses up all CPU and wont load
[02:56] <RawSewage> how do I fix it, please
[02:56] <coma_> Anyone : anyone know how/if it is possible to get Steam, half life 2 and Counter Strike Sourceo on kubuntu
[02:57] <Hawkwind> RawSewage: Try moving your ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror directory out of the way and start konqueror
[02:57] <RawSewage> ok ty
[02:57] <Hawkwind> Don't delete it, just rename it to like konqueror-old
[02:57] <RawSewage> ok
[02:57] <LjL> hmm i might want to do that too
[02:58] <gnomefreak> !steam
[02:58] <ubotu> Steam can be found at: http://www.steampowered.com/
[02:58] <gnomefreak> coma_: ^^^
[02:58] <LjL> for some reason my konqueror insists with showing the Bookmarks toobar at every boot, even though i repeatedly told it to keep it hidden
[02:58] <coma_> ...theres no linux client....
[02:58] <RawSewage> Hawkwind, that didnt work.  I think I messed up something by trying a GNOME icon them
[02:58] <RawSewage> theme
[03:02] <gnomefreak> coma_: people have installed it on ubuntu before (not me ever)
[03:04] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> is there a place that only has linux extentions for firefox?
[03:04] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> gnomefreak: whats u need?
[03:04] <gnomefreak> VieLGuS-KuTaS: nothing i was helpinbg someone
[03:04] <gnomefreak> -b
[03:05] <gnomefreak> VieLGuS-KuTaS: firefox extentions are not linux/window they are firefox firefox installs them
[03:05] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> hmm, thats interesting , couse they didnt work for me previously
[03:06] <gnomefreak> VieLGuS-KuTaS: it has to be built for your version of firefox
[03:06] <gnomefreak> like mine has nothing for it :(
[03:07] <h3sp4wn> VieLGuS-KuTaS: I use the firefox binaries from mozilla.org (because they are faster) and it seems to work fine for me
[03:07] <LjL> gnomefreak: are you sure about that?
[03:07] <gnomefreak> LjL: yes i am
[03:07] <LjL> gnomefreak: mozilla's extensions page *does* have an option to only show Linux or Windows or whatever extensions
[03:07] <dr_willis> how do you even benchmark and prove they are faster?
[03:07] <gnomefreak> LjL: i have never seent hat
[03:08] <LjL> gnomefreak: https://addons.mozilla.org/search.php and click on "Show options"
[03:08] <dr_willis> Ive never noticed but a few extensions that are windows only. :)
[03:08] <h3sp4wn> dr_willis: Without pango enabled it definately runs faster - load the two different versions and just scroll up and down the pages and it is noticable (with the naked eye)
[03:09] <RawSewage_> Hawkwind, do you have any other suggestions
[03:09] <dr_willis> heh shows what i know -0- wtf is Pango ? :)
[03:09] <gnomefreak> they look like the same ones
[03:09] <h3sp4wn> dr_willis: something to do with internationalisation
[03:10] <LjL> gnomefreak: 1486 linux extensions, 1557 windows extensions. so apparently most work in both, but there are some that actually don't.
[03:10] <dr_willis> Pango sounds like a small island in the paciffic. :)
[03:10] <h3sp4wn> dr_willis: All I know is anything with it enabled is dog slow to without it enabled
[03:10] <LjL> gnomefreak: and 1559 extensions in total
[03:10] <gnomefreak> hmmmm i show 1913 for windows
[03:11] <gnomefreak> 1830 for linux
[03:11] <LjL> gnomefreak: wait, i selected "Firefox" in "App" and "Extensions" in "Type", i didn't leave everything to "Any"
[03:11] <gnomefreak> i did
[03:12] <LjL> gnomefreak: uh... what does this show for you? https://addons.mozilla.org/search.php?app=firefox&q=&cat=null&type=E&appfilter=firefox&platform=null&date=null&sort=newest&perpage=10&app=firefox
[03:12] <gnomefreak> 1559
[03:12] <gnomefreak> https://addons.mozilla.org/search.php?app=firefox&q=&cat=null&type=null&appfilter=null&platform=2&date=null&sort=newest&perpage=10&app=firefox
[03:13] <Hawkwind> RawSewage_: My only other suggestion is to move your ~/.kde to ~/.kde-old and try it again.  But you'd want to be out of KDE completely when you do that.  That will also reset all of your KDE configs
[03:13] <LjL> gnomefreak: but that doesn't have "Type" set to "Extensions", but to "Any"
[03:13] <gnomefreak> i didnt relize windows had its own i dont use windows :( all i know is i want some for my build :(
[03:13] <LjL> gnomefreak: (and also "App" set to "Any" rather than "Firefox", it shows in the page, even though the URL looks different)
[03:14] <gnomefreak> i know all i set was hte platform
[03:14] <LjL> gnomefreak: well then it's normal that you get more results that i do. i narrowed the search down to extensions only, since we were talking specifically about them
[03:15] <RawSewage_> Hawkwind, ugh.  ok, thx
[03:16] <LjL> gnomefreak: "apt-cache show kazehakase"... you discover new ones all the time :D
[03:16] <gnomefreak> i use it
[03:17] <LjL> pity everything using Gecko is GTK. i wouldn't mind a KDE Gecko browser
[03:17] <Tanooki> Can someone help me fix Direct Rendering?  I'm using Dapper Drake, I have an S3 Savage MX graphics chip, and I have all the DRI related packages installed.  It's not being probed by DRM.  There are no DRM messages in dmesg.
[03:22] <h3sp4wn> LjL: Do you use Konquefox ?
[03:23] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> whats a good usenet client for linux?
[03:23] <h3sp4wn> pine
[03:24] <OOD> my first time using K3B, how do i make an image from a CD ?
[03:24] <LjL> h3sp4wn: err i didn't know that existed :)
[03:24] <gnomefreak> its an extention
[03:24] <h3sp4wn> LjL: pine ?
[03:24] <LjL> h3sp4wn: no konquefox
[03:24] <gnomefreak> h3sp4wn: no the ff extention
[03:26] <OOD> nvm, i found out how
[03:26] <gnomefreak> LjL: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2671/
[03:26] <gnomefreak> brb
[03:26] <LjL> gnomefreak, i can use google :-P
[03:28] <LjL> still anyway i'd like a gecko-based browser *for KDE*, not just something that looks KDE-ish. i'm a bit intransigent on these issues you see
[03:30] <DebbyIan> I cant load into Xgl
[03:30] <DebbyIan> "FreeFontPath: FPE "
[03:30] <DebbyIan> Anyone had this before?
[03:37] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> i have source of pine , it doesnt have configure , only build , whats the command to build the app ?
[03:38] <Hawkwind>  I've just recently installed Kubuntu Dapper and ever since when I use konqueror my icon default size is quite huge.  No matter what I try it seems I can't get it to stick at a normal size that I want.  I can go to the directory click on View -> Icon Size -> Default and save my session.  Then if I restart Konqueror and go back to the directory the icons are huge again.
[03:39] <Hawkwind> I don't even have to restart konqueror for it to happen most of the time.  How can I rectify this problem ?
[03:39] <Hawkwind> I've gone into kcontrol and made sure the settings for Icons is correct and it is.  Nothing seems to make my images stay at the size I want them to and I have no idea of how to correct this
[03:39] <z00m_> how do i make a perl script run from terminal, do you have to give it execution rights ?
[03:41] <Hawkwind> perl filename.pl
[03:41] <Hawkwind> z00m_: Yes, chmod +x filename.pl first
[03:45] <z00m_> Hawkwind: how do i port my perl script to so it works in linux, im getting an error
[03:45] <dshier89> hello. I just installed kubuntu and I cant find synaptic, where is it?
[03:45] <z00m_> Can't locate HTTP/Cookies.pm
[03:46] <z00m_> its ok i know how
[03:48] <kuzmaster> how can i stop kubuntu asking me for my password everytime i want to do somthing as root?
[03:48] <z00m_> i needed to install the libwww-perl
[03:48] <oomph_77> anyone here use freenx?
[03:49] <Hawkwind> kuzmaster: You can setup a traditional root account:  sudo passwd
[03:49] <Hawkwind> kuzmaster: Then afterwards you can su - to become root
[03:52] <oomph_77> what client do i use to connect to freenx?
[03:52] <h3sp4wn> nxclient
[03:53] <oomph_77> thx
[03:55] <oomph_77> is it a gui client?
[04:00] <edu> Gimp ERROR: can't save image, failed to fork
[04:13] <eddel> After upgrading Kubuntu from 5.10 to 6.6, something stopped that deals with hardware detection. Eg I now need to explicitly load my soundcard module to get sound, when I plug a usb device in dmesg shows it yet I no longer get the automatic 'open folder' etc.  What should I look into?
[04:14] <h3sp4wn> eddel: Easiest way is to load the soundcard module from /etc/modules (but it is not the cleanest way)
[04:15] <eddel> yes that's what I do now -- but as I try to explain that used to be autodetected.
[04:16] <eddel> In other words, the _upgrade_ to 6.06 was a _regression_ in terms of functionality
[04:16] <eddel> my previous Debian upgrades (since pre 1.0) were often smoother...
[04:17] <eddel> It's not a biggie but I liked kubuntu just because these little things worked. Now fewer of them do. I want them back.
[04:18] <h3sp4wn> I am less bothered about those types of things however I was extremely bothered how slow kde was under dapper so am now using the unstable branch
[04:21] <h3sp4wn> eddel: I am probably not the best person to help you ask I deliberately have the automatic mounting stuff disabled - you could try moving the entirity of .kde to .kdeold - dapper uses 3.5.2 whilst breezy uses 3.4
[04:21] <eddel> h3sp4wn: it's a patience. I no longer have the time or patience I had ten years when installing a new device took hours of reading, compiling, configuring.  With 05.10, to my surprise, I just plugged a new iPOD in --- and it just worked. So things are getting better.
[04:22] <eddel> h3sp4wn: Problem though is that when I run pstree, I no longer 'know' all those services and daemons.  Would this be a KDE thing?  A HAL thing? The mind boggles.
[04:23] <dshier89> i have  a huge problem
[04:23] <h3sp4wn> eddel: try kcontrol -> peripheals -> storage media
[04:23] <dshier89> i have no repositories
[04:23] <dshier89> like i update adept
[04:23] <dshier89> and it still has no packages to dl
[04:24] <eddel> h3sp4wn: As I said, it gets recognised. I can access files. [ Otherwise I'd cy louder :) ]   But what I want to restore is the additional 'action' when 'event
[04:24] <eddel> ' is triggered.   I think udev may do that but I am not sure...
[04:24] <eddel> h3sp4wn: Anyway, was just a quick throwaway questions.  Things work fine otherwise.
[04:25] <h3sp4wn> eddel: Do you want it be automounted when it is plugged in ?
[04:25] <dshier89> what should i do??
[04:25] <h3sp4wn> eddel: You mean the screen that comes up asking what you want to do ? or ?
[04:25] <actinic> dshier89, take 2 aspirin and call me in the morning
[04:25] <eddel> h3sp4wn: I do run the automounter for my nfs shares across machines. Not sure if it is that.
[04:25] <actinic> j/k
[04:26] <actinic> maybe the repo server is down?
[04:27] <eddel> h3sp4wn: No.  I used to get folder views (ie one to many) showing me the device where the ipod got mounted. Plus, sound worked. Plus, my usb handset for voip had its sound module loaded.  All these little thjings fail. The bing things (recognisng usb storage, recognising usb sound) work, but in the case of the usb sound device then do NOT get configired as thje module is not longer loaded. So it's half-assed.
[04:29] <dshier89> im serious
[04:29] <dshier89> why dont i have any repositories
[04:29] <dshier89> source list is fine
[04:30] <h3sp4wn> eddel: Try #kde they may know exactly the possible issues of updating from 3.4 to 3.5.2
[04:31] <eddel> h3sp4wn: You suspect KDE rather than Kubuntu?  I'm torn.  Thanks for letting me bounce this off.
[04:31] <h3sp4wn> eddel: It is kubuntu's fault for not handling the upgrade properly but it is probably something with the settings of kde
[04:32] <eddel> h3sp4wn: Yes and yes.  Any Kubuntu Wiki resources worth checking on that?
[04:33] <eddel> h3sp4wn: I just found an orphan in /etc/udev/scripts/removable.sh.dpkg-old -- no new one there. Odd.
[04:34] <crimsun> err, on my Ubuntu install, there is no /etc/udev/scripts/
[04:34] <actinic> dshier89: when u click 'manage repositories' are u saying u see nothing?
[04:34] <crimsun> is there one in a fresh Kubuntu?
[04:35] <eddel> crimsun: This is a recent uprade from 05.10 to 06.06.  Started as a 05.06 I believe. SO two upgrades...
[04:36] <crimsun> ah, a dist-upgrade from 5.10. That would explain it.
[04:37] <crimsun> yeah, that's not a problem, since /etc/udev/scripts/ is ignored in Dapper's udev.
[04:37] <crimsun> the proper dir is /etc/udev/rules.d/
[04:37] <eddel> crimsun: I have that, of course.  But see the earlier discussion on how it no longer works as well as it used to.
[04:38] <crimsun> eddel: uname -r && dpkg -l udev |grep ^ii
[04:40] <eddel> crimsun: 2.6.12-9-686 (the newer one wouldn't work with mythtv's ivtv) and 079-0ubuntu34
[04:41] <eddel> crimsun: I had forgotten about the older kernel. That may be it.
[04:41] <crimsun> eddel: that's precisely it. The newer udev requires the newer kernel.
[04:41] <eddel> crimsun: Or maybe not :)
[04:41] <eddel> crimsun:  Ahhhh yes, I once read that. Fiddlesticks. I need 2.6.15, isn't it?
[04:42] <eddel> crimsun: Well spotted. Take a virtual beer from my fridge.
[04:52] <yahn_> i'm sorry to bother you but i really need help         i was using kwrite and a message came up            and now i have to hold a key in for a second for it to display on any program does anyone know how to fix it            I would really appreciate help
[04:53] <yahn_> can anyone help please?
[04:55] <yahn_> is anyone there/
[05:01] <larson9999> man, my connection has been dropping all night.  my isp says there isn't a problem on their end.  happens about 2 times a month.  i won'dt be able to stay connected for about a day or two and then perfect for a week or two.
[05:03] <Myrdos> I had same problem... turns out it was interference on the line.
[05:08] <Myrdos> It looks like linux usage has hit an all-time high for the month of June: 4.4%
[05:08] <Myrdos> http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
[05:08] <Myrdos> We even edged out Macs. Go us.
[05:10] <osiris>  larson9999 that seems to happen here on comcast network too
[05:10] <osiris> i droped for an hour 2 nights ago
[05:10] <larson9999> osiris: this is road runner but it happened in another state when i had charter, too.
[05:11] <actinic> that's cable for ya
[05:11] <osiris> where you located.  feel free to pm it, if you dont wanna say publicly
[05:11] <larson9999> Myrdos: do the macs that run linux count as mac or linux?
[05:11] <Myrdos> I'd guess linux, it's based on what the browser reports
[05:12] <osiris> Myrdos, so that probably logs liveCD users too
[05:12] <larson9999> actinic: well, it happened when i had dls, too.
[05:12] <Myrdos> Plus, the numbers for non-Windows systems are artificially high there...
[05:12] <larson9999> :)
[05:12] <osiris> not really an actual figure
[05:13] <Myrdos> They just count the browser and OS types that visit their website, and that tends to be people who are interested in 'alternate' systems
[05:13] <Myrdos> still, it's the most accurate measure I've found so far
[05:13] <jewels9321> does anyone know how to activate a cd...(says that cd is not detected) when you run a game in wine?
[05:14] <Myrdos> Now if Google were to collect those stats, then we'd really have something :)
[05:14] <Myrdos> usually there's some no-CD hack to use?
[05:14] <osiris> jewels9321, what game
[05:15] <jewels9321> osiris: KQ7 (KIngs quest 7)
[05:15] <actinic> rarely had dropped connects with dsl ... all the time with cable
[05:15] <larson9999> jewels9321:  i know some apps in the newest wine recognize cds that didn't used to for instance dvdshrink.  don't know if that would be applicable with what you're doing or not.
[05:16] <osiris> im not a dsl fan myself, unless we are talking t1 or higher
[05:16] <jewels9321> Myrdos: it would have to be some kind of hack but I am new to linux... so i don't know the first thing about hacking :)
[05:16] <Myrdos> I tend to do a Google search for the game + Wine
[05:16] <Myrdos> and see what I find
[05:16] <actinic> my dsl is pulling roughly 1.5 down/ 800 up
[05:16] <actinic> good for server based stuff
[05:17] <osiris> if you are actualy getting a full 800 up
[05:17] <GullyFoyle> i've got 6 meg cable, it aint bad
[05:17] <larson9999> how do you get that much up?  all the isps i've ever used are lower than that
[05:17] <Myrdos> see here: http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-bugs/2006-May/031174.html
[05:18] <actinic> osiris, i'm getting that alright
[05:18] <actinic> larson9999 ... i thought those type speeds were typical
[05:18] <larson9999> my isp: oh, 4k up should be plenty.
[05:19] <actinic> cable was getting too expensive
[05:19] <larson9999> i'll have to check what i have now.
[05:19] <osiris> actinic, may i pm for a moment ?
[05:19] <actinic> sure
[05:19] <larson9999> well i don't have a regular phone.  getting a regular phone + dsl = cable here so i stuck with cable
[05:20] <jewels9321> I am going to go to WIne IRC..... thanks guys..... :)
[05:20] <Myrdos> good luck
[05:21] <GullyFoyle> you gotta play one ISP against the other, i.e., "Oh I think I'm gonna switch to DSL because my contract is up". you'll be surprised what kunda upgrades they offer if they think they'll lose you.
[05:22] <GullyFoyle> when Iswitched to cable the DSL company I was with offered me 3 meg DSL for 12.95 a month
[05:22] <kuzmaster> GullyFoyle, thats not bad
[05:22] <kuzmaster> i wish i could get cable
[05:23] <kuzmaster> or broadband that fast
[05:23] <Myrdos> I'm just happy to have dial-up
[05:23] <kuzmaster> i hate dial-up
[05:23] <Myrdos> For years I've been getting disconnected, speeds of maybe 2K/sec
[05:23] <kuzmaster> i can never get it to work with linux
[05:23] <kuzmaster> and its so slow
[05:23] <mzelem> does anyone know how to get dapper to automount flash drives?
[05:23] <Myrdos> today I solved the problem: rural area, there's an electric fencer interfering with the line
[05:23] <kuzmaster> mzelem, it should do it automaticly
[05:24] <mzelem> ever since I upgraded to dapper it doesn't work, on both of my computers.....
[05:24] <Myrdos> need to get an external modem, really. Almost impossible to get an internal winmodem working in Linux
[05:26] <GullyFoyle> 3 meg DSL usually came in about 2.4 megs when I tested it, after you subtract out all the TCP overhead and such
[05:26] <actinic> my 1.5 dsl comes in around 1.25 - 1.30
[05:26] <GullyFoyle> the other day i d/led an .iso an was getting 850kBs over cable. not bad.
[05:27] <osiris> http://myspeed.visualware.com/voip/   that is a terrific speed test
[05:27] <osiris> if you have java working that is
[05:28] <actinic> you can't buy those speeds for less than $55/mth in my neck of the woods
[05:28] <Hackr6> Hi
[05:28] <osiris> i pay 65 a month for the cable stats i posted you actinic
[05:28] <Hackr6> Im a windows user wanting to goto Linux
[05:28] <GullyFoyle> broadbandreports.com has a big list of servers to test your speed
[05:28] <actinic> wow
[05:28] <osiris> GullyFoyle, i know.  this is the one my work uses though.  for what we do its perfect
[05:29] <actinic> do they give u a break if u get cable tv?
[05:29] <osiris> i get free, dirt basic cable
[05:29] <gilster> where can i find Kubuntu tshirts
[05:29] <osiris> not extended basic, one below that
[05:30] <actinic> i'm paying $34/mth for dsl
[05:30] <osiris> locals, shopping channels, tnt, tbs, g4, stuff like that.  basicly any channel up to 35
[05:30] <Myrdos> Hackr6: I'd recommend this: http://www.ubuntu.com/download      and this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[05:30] <osiris> thats where the band-pass filter kicks in
[05:31] <osiris> er, band block is more accurate actually
[05:31] <Myrdos> or, maybe his connection was reset by peer
[05:32] <actinic> gilster, don't know about kubuntu ones
[05:32] <actinic> how 'bout this?  http://www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?affid=-1&productID=201
[05:33] <GullyFoyle> holy cow hah, i didnt know this, F8 in Konq gives you a terminal
[05:34] <larson9999> i dumped cable tv but have the net via cable.  still get some cable channels though.
[05:34] <actinic> here's a linux kinda shirt:  http://www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?affid=-1&productID=328
[05:36] <Hackr6> Hi im a windows user looking to switch to linux(Kubuntu6.06) and need help
[05:36] <Myrdos>  Hackr6: I'd recommend this: http://www.ubuntu.com/download      and this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[05:36] <Myrdos> damn I'm fast
[05:36] <Hackr6> lol
[05:36] <Hackr6> I went there and I know
[05:37] <actinic> u almost answered before he asked :)
[05:37] <Hackr6> But its not that
[05:37] <Myrdos> Actually, I did
[05:37] <actinic> mind reader, eh?
[05:37] <Hackr6> I have the disk
[05:37] <Myrdos> scroll up
[05:37] <Hackr6> As in I dl'ed the iso file and burned it
[05:37] <Myrdos> next step: insert disk
[05:37] <Hackr6> wit
[05:37] <Hackr6> wait
[05:37] <Myrdos> k
[05:37] <Hackr6> I get all that
[05:37] <Hackr6> but
[05:37] <actinic> insert disk, REBOOT making sure CD is read before hard drive
[05:37] <Hackr6> I jsut wanna test it without messin up windows(not on my comp)
[05:38] <Hackr6> I noe
[05:38] <KDEfanboy> anyone know how to install 'nth' iptables module?
[05:38] <Hackr6> But do I  click start or install
[05:38] <Hackr6> And then
[05:38] <actinic> it won't hose win
[05:38] <Myrdos> well, it functions as a live CD
[05:38] <Myrdos> with an option to install if you like what you see
[05:38] <actinic> you'll just run off the CD
[05:38] <Hackr6> It loads and stuff but is it installling>
[05:38] <actinic> won't touch win or the HD
[05:38] <Myrdos> no
[05:38] <Myrdos> it will ask you
[05:38] <Hackr6> Ok I hope it werx
[05:39] <Hackr6> I dont wanna intsall on this one tho
[05:39] <Myrdos> good luck
[05:39] <Hackr6> Can I still browse the net with it and use Konsole?
[05:39] <Myrdos> there's also Knoppix, the ultimate live CD for those who don't want to install
[05:39] <actinic> yes
[05:39] <actinic> u just can't save much
[05:39] <Hackr6> Without killin Win XP?
[05:39] <Myrdos> yes
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> I think kanotix is a better live cd than knoppix
[05:39] <Hackr6> Ok brb
[05:39] <actinic> yeah, kanotix is better
[05:39] <Myrdos> never tried it
[05:40] <Myrdos> what's the difference?
[05:40] <actinic> kanotix tends to tweak what Knoppix has
[05:40] <h3sp4wn> better hardware detection - It loads itself into swap if it finds a swap partition
[05:40] <larson9999> the mac commercial where the windows guy has to restart is hillarious
[05:40] <h3sp4wn> Newer software than knoppix
[05:41] <unix_infidel> larson9999: you mean crash?
[05:41] <Myrdos> I'll have to check it out
[05:41] <actinic> Myrdos, Kano (the developer) has some terrific scripts
[05:41] <larson9999> unix_infidel: i didn't look like a crash really but maybe it's a different commercial
[05:41] <actinic> makes installing vid drivers & such a breeze
[05:42] <Myrdos> googling...
[05:42] <larson9999> unix_infidel: but maybe it was.  i wasn't really paying much attention until the guy said he had to restart
[05:43] <GullyFoyle> kanotix has possibly the best hardware detection i've seen
[05:43] <larson9999> my hw is too old to be a good judge
[05:44] <h3sp4wn> Its fast that is the best thing about it
[05:44] <Myrdos> I'll download it when I next get to a high-speed connection
[05:44] <Myrdos> hw detection has always been my Achilles' heel
[05:44] <actinic> hopefully Hackr6 won't hose Windows :)
[05:44] <Myrdos> heh
[05:45] <Myrdos> I forget, does ubuntu let you resize partitions when you install?
[05:45] <Myrdos> like QtParted or similiar?
[05:46] <nixternal> Myrdos: you can use qtparted to resize partitions
[05:47] <kakalto> with the kubuntu installer, I set my partitions and everything, and now it's sitting at "checking fat32 partition on /dev/sda5"... it's about 130GB partition, and the kubuntu system seems to have frozen. what can I do?
[05:49] <Myrdos> aren't fat32 partitions limited to 32 gigs?
[05:50] <kakalto> Myrdos: nah, I've had this 130gb partition for ages, no problems with ubuntu (hoary I think), gentoo, nor windows
[05:50] <kakalto> but I have a vague feeling that the installer doesn't like the size of it.
[05:50] <kakalto> I was using gentoo previously, so couldn't just dist-upgrade.
[05:51] <Myrdos> hrm then I don't know
[05:51] <kakalto> thanks anyway, man.
[05:51] <kakalto> sadly the comp I'm accessing on has no GUI, so I can't check the ubuntu wiki either
[05:51] <kakalto> silly https.
[05:51] <Myrdos> hold on a sec, I'll take a look
[05:52] <kakalto> that'd be great thanks
[05:52] <kakalto> dunno if there'll be anything there, but what the heck.
[05:53] <Myrdos> I don't see anything, just how to mount fat32 drives after install
[05:53] <kakalto> >.<
[05:53] <kakalto> I already know that.
[05:53] <kakalto> what exactly does the "checking" do?
[05:54] <Myrdos> checks for errors, more I could not say
[05:54] <kakalto> I mean, as I see it, the installer can just leave my big partition alone
[05:54] <kakalto> aswell as my other hard drives.
[05:54] <kakalto> it only needs to touch 2 partitions on one drive.
[05:55] <kakalto> hmm.
[05:55] <kakalto> ah crap.
[05:55] <kakalto> oh well, too bad.
[05:55] <Myrdos> physically unplug uneeded drives?
[05:55] <kakalto> lol, that's one way.
[05:55] <Myrdos> or try a different partitioning scheme?
[05:56] <Myrdos> or maybe just reboot and re-try
[05:56] <kakalto> but it's gonna "check" my large fat32 partition anyway
[05:56] <kakalto> I can't unplug that one, it's the drive that I'm installing on
[05:56] <Myrdos> I had a Debian install that froze halfway through a partition check for swap once, rebooted and all was fine
[05:57] <kakalto> mmk
[05:57] <kakalto> might try that.
[05:57] <jewels9321> http://winehq.org/site/download-deb how do i add this to sources.list??
[05:57] <kakalto> argh, forgot to follow up on my bug report >.>
[05:59] <Myrdos> jewels9231: similar to this procedure: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[05:59] <jewels9321> thanks Myrdos
[06:00] <Myrdos> and add these lines: deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[06:00] <Myrdos> deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[06:02] <kakalto> Myrdos, you think noapic and nolapic will stop the hang?
[06:03] <Myrdos> no idea!
[06:03] <kakalto> ohk
[06:03] <Myrdos> but good luck, I hate those kinds of problems myself
[06:20] <sysrpl> hello
[06:21] <sysrpl> how do i change a file's mime type/meta data? i create a text file, rename it as a myfile.sh, and konqueror still shows the filetpye as text. same thing with other tpyes i create. waht's the deal?
[06:22] <Tommy2k4> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[06:23] <sensei> sysrpl: If it contains tex, it's a text file, regardless of its extension I guess
[06:24] <Kr4t05> sysrpl, are you trying to write a bash script?
[06:24] <sysrpl> well i have a new text file type i want to associate with an ide, but it always opens it with kate/gedit even when i configure konqueror with the extention and the ide
[06:24] <sensei> If the top row is #!/bin/whateverinterpreter.. it should report "whateverinterpreter shell script text executable" or something along those lines
[06:25] <sysrpl> actually i am trying to asssociate mdp files with monodevelop
[06:25] <sysrpl> even though mdp files are text
[06:25] <xenoterracide> is there an ivman walkthrough for kubuntu or ubuntu
[06:26] <xenoterracide> I use it for automounting my cdrom in gentoo and letting me auto eject as well
[06:26] <sysrpl> sensei: any advice?
[06:26] <crimsun> xenoterracide: does automounting not work for you?
[06:26] <sensei> sysrpl: Not really, not using konq that way :/
[06:27] <xenoterracide> I want to be able to eject when I press the eject button on the drive crimsun
[06:27] <sysrpl> thanks though
[06:27] <xenoterracide> even if it's still mounted
[06:27] <sensei> sysrpl: Can't you just right click it, and chose 'Open with', and set it to always use that setting ?
[06:28] <sysrpl> checking ...
[06:29] <Drakeson> anyone edgy here? my fonts look horrible!
[06:30] <crimsun> they will continue to look horrible. welcome to Edgy.
[06:30] <sysrpl> whats the keyboard shortcut to kill a process by clicking on it's window?
[06:31] <OOD> Ctr+Alt+Esc
[06:31] <sysrpl> nope, it didn't remember
[06:32] <sysrpl> ty for that shortcut
[06:32] <OOD> np
[06:33] <ChefWill> anyone know if there is some sort of "Apple Dashboard" feature for kde?
[06:33] <OOD> is the dashboard all the widgets?
[06:33] <Drakeson> crimsun: it's a bit strange, it's the case for qt apps, but gtk apps look fine
[06:33] <ChefWill> yea
[06:33] <OOD> superkaramba
[06:34] <Hackr6> dude
[06:34] <Hackr6> watf
[06:34] <Hackr6> wtf
[06:34] <Hackr6> Ok im back and need more help
[06:34] <Hackr6> Umm hello?
[06:34] <OOD> hi
[06:34] <xenoterracide> hola
[06:35] <ChefWill> OOD: do you run it
[06:35] <sensei> Were you expecting an answer to 'dude wtf' ?
[06:35] <xenoterracide> bonjour
[06:35] <Hackr6> lol
[06:35] <Hackr6> Who was helping me last time?
[06:35] <OOD> ChefWill: yea, i don't have it running right now though
[06:35] <xenoterracide> the flying spaghetti monster
[06:35] <Hackr6> ...
[06:35] <xenoterracide> lol
[06:35] <xenoterracide> sorry joke
[06:35] <xenoterracide> I don't know
[06:35] <`Martin`> has anyone gotten XGL to work on KDE in 6.06 with ATI here? I've been going through lot of googled stuff but they dont seem to work.
[06:36] <Hackr6> lol
[06:36] <Hackr6> Ok anyway idk
[06:36] <OOD> whoah, XGL+ATi= a big mess
[06:36] <OOD> acuallt XGl=a big mess
[06:36] <`Martin`> its worked fine with gnome... i just prefer kde
[06:36] <Hackr6> Well I popped in my Live Kubuntu CD and
[06:36] <Hackr6> It booted all the letters and the blue bar
[06:36] <Hackr6> And then it got to th kernel part
[06:36] <xenoterracide> oh this could be along story
[06:37] <Hackr6> And I was waiting for halff hour is it sposed to take that long?
[06:37] <xenoterracide> no
[06:37] <Hackr6> Oh fyi
[06:37] <Hackr6> It didnt do jack
[06:37] <Hackr6> So what do I do?
[06:37] <OOD> the kernel part should take 1 second
[06:37] <crimsun> Drakeson: well, libqt3 hasn't been recompiled against the new libfontconfig.
[06:38] <Hackr6> It said : Unpacking Linux...Ok, O(blah blah blah) Kernel
[06:38] <jewels9321> god what god it is the flying spaghetti monster you insensitve clod
[06:38] <OOD> o___0
[06:38] <jewels9321> lol
[06:39] <ChefWill> OOD: not to many "widgets" for it.....just temp and xmms :/
[06:39] <ChefWill> and weather
[06:39] <Hackr6> Cough help me cough
[06:39] <Drakeson> crimsun: is that the problem?
[06:39] <crimsun> Drakeson: 50/50
[06:39] <OOD> ChefWill: there are some good ones, there's the OS X calender too :D
[06:39] <xenoterracide> I wish I could Hackr6
[06:40] <ChefWill> ;/
[06:40] <Hackr6> Any other live disk that r better?
[06:40] <Drakeson> crimsun: do you have the same issue?
[06:40] <xenoterracide> kubuntu isn't my specialty
[06:40] <Hackr6> Is Knoppix better?
[06:40] <crimsun> Drakeson: I don't run Edgy yet.
[06:40] <xenoterracide> are you trying to run a live disk then?
[06:40] <Hackr6> ya
[06:40] <xenoterracide> instead of the installer?
[06:40] <Hackr6> yep
[06:40] <xenoterracide> knoppix rocks
[06:41] <Hackr6> K but does  it look like kubuntu?
[06:41] <xenoterracide> um... It uses kde
[06:41] <Hackr6> And?
[06:41] <Hackr6> Ima linux noob
[06:41] <Hackr6> Idk what that is
[06:41] <xenoterracide> kde is the Desktop environment that kubuntu uses
[06:41] <Hackr6> oooooooooo
[06:41] <Hackr6> k
[06:42] <xenoterracide> it's what differentiates kubuntu from ubuntu
[06:42] <Hackr6> Brb gonna make that live disk
[06:42] <xenoterracide> ubuntu uses gnome
[06:42] <Drakeson> crimsun: its generally better to check these things before filing bugs, because I might be missing something trivial. That's why I am asking here. anyways, have you heard about this issue before?
[06:42] <crimsun> Drakeson: yes.
[06:43] <Drakeson> good. thanks
[06:43] <crimsun> np
[06:44] <kuzmaster> what is the name of the wifi manager for kubuntu called
[06:44] <kuzmaster> and where can i download its .deb from?
[06:45] <kkathman> have you tried the default stuff?
[06:45] <kkathman> kwifimanager, et al
[06:45] <kkathman> try all that before going to ndiswrapper etc
[06:47] <beherit> ola
[06:47] <beherit> alguem do brazil
[06:50] <Hackr6> ...
[06:50] <xenoterracide> blarg
[06:51] <Hackr6> Its gonna take 5 min for my disk to dl sigh thats too long
[06:51] <Drakeson> do we have qt4.2 yet?
[06:51] <Hackr6> Huh?
[06:51] <Drakeson> (edgy or dapper)
[06:51] <Hackr6> Huh?
[06:52] <crimsun> no.
[06:52] <crimsun> man, what's with all the crack requests?
[06:52] <crimsun> :D
[06:52] <xenoterracide> wouldn't kde have to be released on qt4 before it would really matter?
[06:52] <Hackr6> Uuhhhhhhhh?
[06:53] <xenoterracide> what hackr6?
[06:54] <Drakeson> It would be nice if we could just apt-get qt4.2 and starting hacking. the difference between qt4.1 and qt4.2 is huge, (I depend on QGraphicsView, ...)
[06:54] <osiris> what is ubuntu's equal to mdv's perl-xmms package
[06:55] <Hackr6> Oh are we hackers here?
[06:55] <Hackr6> And if we are I gotta linux question
[06:55] <Hackr6> :
[06:56] <Hackr6> I was about to crack my friends linux comp from the comp and I goto the shadow file and when I tried to cat it to the screen it was like Permission Denied so what should I do?
[06:56] <xenoterracide> we're hackers
[06:56] <xenoterracide> not crackers
[06:57] <xenoterracide> if you want to crack go to alt.2600
[06:57] <osiris> Hackr6,  i can tell yer a noob, asking a question like that
[06:57] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> lol , nub
[06:58] <xenoterracide> read this hackr6 http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
[06:58] <sensei> Yeah.. because 'nub' is such a m4d l33t expression
[06:58] <osiris>  "can you guys help me hack my moms computer, so i can get free money? "
[06:58] <Hackr6> Not really I just dont have much experience with linux hacking
[06:58] <xenoterracide> lol
[06:58] <OOD> lol
[06:58] <Hackr6> Who said hat?
[06:58] <osiris> me
[06:58] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> me?
[06:58] <osiris> and i said that, while "wearing" a hat
[06:59] <Hackr6> Ima a grey hat :)
[06:59] <xenoterracide> better not be a wizard hat
[06:59] <Hackr6> ummm
[06:59] <xenoterracide> I'm a white hat
[06:59] <Hackr6> That article u gave me
[06:59] <Hackr6> Thats like
[06:59] <OOD> lol
[06:59] <crimsun> Drakeson: Qt4.2 hasn't even gone into Debian yet.
[06:59] <Hackr6> Not helpful
[06:59] <xenoterracide> shading towards grey
[06:59] <xenoterracide> right
[06:59] <xenoterracide> I know
[07:00] <Hackr6> Yaeh that article didnt help me
[07:00] <xenoterracide> but if you want to learn to breach security you can go to alt.2600
[07:00] <xenoterracide> buy their magazine
[07:00] <xenoterracide> whatever
[07:00] <xenoterracide> I don't attempt to breach security
[07:00] <xenoterracide> I learn how to block it
[07:01] <xenoterracide> your in the wrong place for what you asked
[07:02] <osiris> sorry to re-iterate, but i dont wanna be lost in the noise
[07:02] <osiris> what is ubuntu's equal to mdv's perl-xmms package
[07:03] <Hackr6> Any links for getting into a shadow file/
[07:03] <Hackr6> ?
[07:03] <Hackr6> Sorry for my noobishness
[07:03] <osiris> apt-cache search perl-xmms doesnt yeild any result
[07:03] <crimsun> !info libxmms-perl
[07:03] <ubotu> libxmms-perl: Interactive remote control for XMMS (X MultiMedia System) in perl. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.12-5 (dapper), package size 75 kB, installed size 312 kB
[07:03] <osiris> thank you crimsun
[07:03] <Hackr6> hmmm
[07:04] <Hackr6> !Info Knoppix
[07:04] <ubotu> Package Knoppix does not exist in dapper
[07:04] <Hackr6> lol
[07:04] <Hackr6> wow
[07:04] <Hackr6> I feel stupid
[07:04] <Hackr6> That wasnt very smart of me to do
[07:05] <Hackr6> xenoterracide do I do the same thng I did wen I tried to test Kubuntu?
[07:06] <sensei> NOW you started feeling stupid? o.O
[07:06] <Hackr6> lol
[07:07] <Hackr6> I dont feel stupid wen it comes to linux I AM stupid wen it comes 2 linux
[07:07] <xenoterracide> er yes... burn the disk
[07:07] <Hackr6> Not that lol
[07:07] <Hackr6> Brb gonna try it
[07:07] <xenoterracide> put the disk in the drive
[07:07] <xenoterracide> reboot
[07:11] <ChefWill> anyone know if there is some kind of recipe organizr/management for nix?
[07:12] <sensei> ChefWill: http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=recipe&section=projects&Go.x=0&Go.y=0
[07:12] <sensei> Always go to freshmeat.net and search when you're looking for software ;)
[07:15] <ChefWill> sensei: i was looking there, just looking for recommendations
[07:15] <RawSewage> is freshmeat.net open source
[07:15] <xenoterracide> sourceforge.net is better :-)
[07:16] <xenoterracide> if I unmute the sound in alsamixer it should just work like it does in kubuntu right?
[07:16] <xenoterracide> sorry let me rephrase that
[07:17] <xenoterracide> if I unmute the sound using alsamixer the changes will be instantaneous system wide in kubuntu correct?
[07:17] <OOD> xenoterracide: yes
[07:17] <xenoterracide> hmm... that's what I though
[07:17] <xenoterracide> still not hearing sound from jewels9321's speakers
[07:18] <xenoterracide> lol she can't keep track of her windows
[07:19] <sensei> At least I like sf's compile farm
[07:20] <xenoterracide> her computer has a via chipset... what sound module is that
[07:21] <xenoterracide> does kubuntu compile there kernels with /proc/config.gz support?
[07:21] <sensei> Usually snd-via82xx
[07:21] <xenoterracide> k
[07:21] <xenoterracide> lsmod shows that
[07:22] <xenoterracide> no why can't I hear anything
[07:22] <sensei> Have you checked the PCM setting, just not 'master'?
[07:22] <xenoterracide> question is do these crappy speakers still work
[07:22] <xenoterracide> let me check
[07:22] <xenoterracide> yeah and it's all the way up
[07:24] <xenoterracide> test are we making noise on her computer
[07:24] <xenoterracide> nope don't here anything
[07:24] <sensei> And the card is the default sound device?
[07:24] <sensei> brb
[07:24] <xenoterracide> not sure sensei
[07:26] <xenoterracide> hmm... being that this is kubuntu would that be a arts setting?
[07:28] <exclipy> Does anyone know where Konqueror stores its user settings for menus and toolbar configurations?
[07:28] <exclipy> Mine are broken, but when I run it from another user it's fine; so I want to just delete my config and start fresh.
[07:30] <xenoterracide> .kde
[07:30] <xenoterracide> err... don't quote me on that
[07:31] <xenoterracide> yeah somewhere in .kde exclipy
[07:32] <kkathman> its ok to just delete the .kde or back it up to a back, then restart KDE and it will build a new one for that user
[07:32] <xenoterracide> I would back it up
[07:33] <kkathman> Ive done that many times
[07:33] <kkathman> yeah its a good idea to back it up or rename it
[07:33] <kkathman> you could rename it to like .kde-old
[07:33] <xenoterracide> but if you delete the .kde and build a new one you should be fine
[07:33] <kkathman> then restart kde
[07:33] <xenoterracide> log out and log back in
[07:33] <kkathman> nah just rename it
[07:33] <kkathman> then you got it made
[07:33] <kkathman> yah ctrl-alt-backspace should do it
[07:34] <xenoterracide> ctrl-alt-backspace kills X
[07:34] <xenoterracide> and will restart that
[07:34] <xenoterracide> not kde
[07:34] <kkathman> of course its a bitch if you have customized your desktops, etc
[07:34] <kkathman> should do both actually
[07:34] <xenoterracide> it might
[07:34] <xenoterracide> if it logs you out
[07:34] <xenoterracide> which it should
[07:35] <kkathman> it does
[07:35] <kkathman> then re log in under the offending name
[07:35] <exclipy> ok
[07:35] <kkathman> that will build the new .kde
[07:35] <xenoterracide> but he shouldn't need to  kill x
[07:35] <kkathman> then you can copy back any stuff you have from your .kde-old
[07:35] <xenoterracide> just log out and back in
[07:35] <exclipy> I already tried moving it, then restarting konqueror, but didn't try restarting KDE
[07:35] <kkathman> nah you'll need to log out and back in
[07:36] <kkathman> so that it can rebuild the .kde under that name
[07:36] <kkathman> but if you are using like kmail etc you can copy that back
[07:37] <Midspeed> what program can i use for windows xp to access my linux kubuntu partition???
[07:37] <exclipy> can you give me anything more specific than just ~/.kde?
[07:38] <kkathman> Midspeed:  just open run and type your server name
[07:38] <Midspeed> what do you mean???
[07:38] <kkathman> as long as samba is running and you are on the same network
[07:38] <Midspeed> what does that have to do with the partition
[07:38] <Midspeed> ?
[07:38] <kkathman> Midspeed:  same computer?
[07:39] <Midspeed> i heard earlier theres something called EXPLORER something i cant recall, yeah
[07:39] <Midspeed> same computer
[07:39] <OOD> Midspeed: uhh haven't you already asked tha a few hours ago?
[07:39] <kkathman> ahh
[07:39] <Midspeed> yes
[07:39] <Midspeed> i forgot the name of the program
[07:39] <OOD> explore2fs
[07:39] <Midspeed> ok
[07:39] <Midspeed> thanks
[07:39] <exclipy> Midspeed: also, search for a windows IFS ext2 driver
[07:39] <exclipy> if you want to mount the partition like a normal drive
[07:40] <Midspeed> ok thank you
[07:42] <Ertain> I still have a problem with downloading the latest official cupsys updates.
[07:49] <exclipy> Thanks guys, I got my Konqueror sorted out.
[07:49] <kkathman> kewl
[07:49] <kkathman> btw just so you know, Konqueror isnt the schiznit
[07:50] <exclipy> I deleted ~/.kde/apps/share/konqueror and ~/.kde/apps/config/konquerorrc and restarted KDE
[07:50] <kkathman> its very non performant, and an inaccurate file manager
[07:50] <exclipy> have you got any other suggestions?
[07:50] <Hackr6> I did it
[07:50] <kkathman> but glad you got it sorted out
[07:51] <Hackr6> I got back from knoppix and xenoterracide I found how to open the shadwo file lol I cant believe it was that easy
[07:51] <kkathman> exclipy:  depend on what you are using konqueror for...as a browser?  If so, I'd try firefox or opera9.. both are much more compliant and 100x faster
[07:51] <kkathman> as a file manager??  try krusader
[07:51] <xenoterracide> ok
[07:51] <kkathman> just a suggestion
[07:51] <exclipy> yeah, I use Opera for browsing but I've been using Konqueror
[07:52] <exclipy> hmm... krusader... I'll check it out
[07:52] <sensei> Hackr6: And now you just need to decipher the contents, gl hf
[07:52] <kkathman> exclipy:  opera is optimized so well, especially opera 9
[07:52] <exclipy> Yah, I love it
[07:52] <kkathman> greetings NthDegree :)
[07:52] <Hackr6> I already new that
[07:52] <NthDegree> lol i guess i'm back :)
[07:52] <sensei> Ah, of course.. Being hacker and all
[07:53] <Hackr6> Someone plz tell me wen I actially switch Os's I get to resize the resolution
[07:53] <kkathman> exclipy:  firefox is fast too, and very customizable
[07:53] <exclipy> I wouldn't say firefox or opera are 100x faster.  konqueror's pretty fast.
[07:53] <RawSewage> I like Konqueror
[07:53] <kkathman> konq still has problems
[07:53] <RawSewage> like what
[07:53] <NthDegree> opera is better on windows than firefox but it works the other way round for linux
[07:53] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> dont like konkq one bit
[07:54] <kkathman> i was dissapointed in the speed and as a file manager its very unpredictable
[07:54] <NthDegree> i like konqueror
[07:54] <NthDegree> much better than nautilus
[07:54] <kkathman> I find that konq doesnt always render sites right..but its better than nautilis
[07:54] <RawSewage> Im talking about Konqueror as a web browser
[07:54] <RawSewage> very underrated
[07:54] <exclipy> Opera doesn't look as good as it can out of the box in Linux, but it can be made to blend in very well, especially in KDE
[07:54] <kkathman> Konq as a web browser is adequate..but not great
[07:55] <NthDegree> heh konq is the only browser AFAIK that can become 100% invisible
[07:55] <kkathman> I'd run Opera 9, then Firefox, then Konq if I had to
[07:55] <exclipy> I agree with both kkathman and RawSewage - it's adequate but not great, but still underrated
[07:55] <kkathman> it IS better than nautilis tho
[07:56] <OOD> nautilus's biggest problem is no adress bar
[07:56] <exclipy> yeah
[07:58] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> i wonder why i have to type sudo passwords 300 times a day , cant they just store it in kwallet or somethig and everytime its required , the system can grab it from kwallet??
[07:58] <NthDegree> bad idea
[07:59] <kkathman> VieLGuS-KuTaS:  you can configure sudo ... and adjust the time period that sudo remains in effect
[07:59] <Hackr6> ROOT SHELL!
[07:59] <NthDegree> protecting root with your life is a good idea :) since there's no selinux or root guard yet
[07:59] <kkathman> I think the default is 15 minutes, but that can be altered, but I forget off hand how
[07:59] <kkathman> Id have to look it up
[08:00] <kkathman> but if you are in sudo that much, maybe extending the timeout is an option for you
[08:00] <kkathman> if its a single user system, its not that big of a deal
[08:01] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> well , ive been trying to get azureus and java to work all day 2day , and yesterday , and prabably a day before , and it strarts to get on my nerves
[08:01] <Hawkwind> VieLGuS-KuTaS: Or just setup a traditional root account real quick
[08:01] <Hawkwind> VieLGuS-KuTaS: It's one simple command to do so
[08:01] <Ertain> So... Has anyone had a problem with updating from the official servers?
[08:01] <kkathman> hehe well thats the obvious solution... hehe, but I didnt wanna mentioned that
[08:02] <kkathman> I have a virtual desktop open that has a terminal that's always at root
[08:02] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> or leave it as sudo -i
[08:02] <Hawkwind> kkathman: Same here.  I can't live without it
[08:02] <kkathman> the sudo idea has its pros and cons
[08:03] <kkathman> but with the advent of more desktops being implemented, sudo is a good idea I guess...even Vista is going to something similar
[08:03] <Hackr6> ROOT SHELL!
[08:03] <Hackr6> How do I get from normal shell to root shell?
[08:04] <Hackr6> With a command
[08:04] <OOD> sudo ?
[08:04] <Hackr6> no
[08:04] <exclipy> sudo -i
[08:04] <Hackr6> Im on knoppix
[08:04] <_rince_> mrgn
[08:04] <exclipy> su
[08:04] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> i guess its important on servers etc , but for home users i think they can make some kind of auto password grab thats stored somewhere
[08:04] <Hackr6> Huh?
[08:04] <kkathman> sudo root
[08:04] <kkathman> then the pass (as long as its set up)
[08:04] <Hackr6> What do I type
[08:04] <exclipy> "su" in knoppix, isn't it?
[08:04] <kkathman> su root
[08:05] <Hackr6> Or on kubuntu breezy badger
[08:05] <kkathman> its the same on all linux
[08:05] <kkathman> but on an "buntu" you have to enable the root account first
[08:06] <Hackr6> It is
[08:06] <exclipy> what's the difference between sudo -i, sudo -s and su?
[08:08] <Hawkwind> exclipy: man sudo
[08:08] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> once kde4 and xgl comes out , i think it will be a lot more fun to use , still the dependencies are killing it , badly
[08:08] <Hawkwind> exclipy: Then type:  /-i   then do /-s
[08:11] <Search4Lancer> anyone know how to work the alarm script built into amaroK?
[08:12] <kkathman> I think XGL might be something someday... but its still mostly eye candy... kde4 will have some real substance :)
[08:12] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> so whats better rpm or apt-get , and why is there no standard linux installer on linux distros?
[08:12] <NthDegree> apt-get
[08:12] <kkathman> VieLGuS-KuTaS:  long story... there is NO good answer to your question
[08:12] <NthDegree> and yum is good (rpm)
[08:13] <kkathman> dpkg (not apt-get)  has alot of drawbacks, as does rpm
[08:13] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> yeah dpkg
[08:13] <kkathman> but on the rpm side, SMART is taking over as the primary packaging device and could be the future of linux
[08:13] <Hawkwind> VieLGuS-KuTaS: Closest thing is/will be smartpm (smartpm.org) that most all distros are adopting.  Not all are adopting it as their default package manager, but most use it
[08:14] <NthDegree> smart?
[08:14] <kkathman> yes smart
[08:14] <NthDegree> i use yum on fedora & centos
[08:14] <kkathman> it "feels" alot like dpkg
[08:14] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> Hawkwind: ithat was my next question ,
[08:14] <Hawkwind> smarts dependency solving algorithm is by far better than anything out there
[08:14] <exclipy> Why isn't aptitude more widely used/recommended?
[08:14] <kkathman> but you dont get the superpackaging problems that are rampant with apt-get/dpkg
[08:15] <kkathman> Hawkwind:  agreed
[08:15] <crimsun> eh, I think conary has a better approach, but that's off-topic.
[08:15] <Hawkwind> I actually worked on the smartpm for a while.  Was writing the official docs
[08:15] <kkathman> which is what is missing with dpkg and the superpackages
[08:15] <kkathman> SUSE 10.1 went to smart
[08:15] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> when is ubuntu suposed to switch to smartpm?
[08:15] <kkathman> you also have YaST, too, but smart I believe is much better at the dependency issues
[08:15] <NthDegree> kkathman i tried 10.1 and it has yast
[08:16] <NthDegree> no smart by default
[08:16] <kkathman> NthDegree:  well, I am ON 10.1 and it has YaST and SMART
[08:16] <NthDegree> yes a lot of people are installing smart or using gnome
[08:16] <kkathman> I pretty much use SMART for packaging, and YaST for most everything else system-oriented
[08:16] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> one think i dont really understand , how can windows apps just install and work without dependency problems
[08:17] <NthDegree> they do have dependency issues
[08:17] <kkathman> VieLGuS-KuTaS:  because when you install (exe) a windows package, is has all the libraries with it most of the time
[08:17] <NthDegree> but those are solved via internet or the software contains redist packages for it's dependencies
[08:17] <crimsun> kkathman: dpkg isn't "missing" dependency resolution. That's by design.
[08:17] <kkathman> crimsun:  ok
[08:17] <kkathman> whatever
[08:18] <crimsun> I mean, one can argue about it ceaselessly, but abstraction is /powerful/.
[08:18] <kkathman> crimsun:  on a technical level, perhaps, but on a practical level it fails
[08:18] <kkathman> and if the goal is to get MORE average people (not linux heads) using linux, then there must be changes
[08:19] <crimsun> kkathman: -> offtopic
[08:19] <kkathman> but thats just my opinion
[08:19] <kkathman> you brought it up
[08:19] <crimsun> kkathman: no, I mean join me there
[08:19] <kkathman> I dont go to offtopic
[08:19] <kkathman> no
[08:19] <crimsun> shrug.
[08:19] <kkathman> sorry, matter of principle
[08:20] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> why dont linux apps come with all its dependencies? is it against gpl or something?
[08:20] <kkathman> has nothing to do with you crimsun :)
[08:20] <NthDegree> they don't include them because they are all separate apps
[08:20] <NthDegree> they each have a function
[08:20] <kkathman> VieLGuS-KuTaS:  you need to understand that much of OSS applications are build around standard, base libraries
[08:21] <Ertain> If the files came with the apps, wouldn't the packs be really big?
[08:21] <kkathman> and there are 1000s of these, and each is maintained in the open source field...so they change from time to time...i
[08:21] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> ok ,
[08:22] <Ertain> Speaking of pack management, I can't seem to download the updates for the cupsys from the official Ubuntu servers.
[08:22] <kkathman> VieLGuS-KuTaS:  Windows apps, for instance in contrast, are controlled by application development teams at companies, and thus they control their own libraries and distribution of the application wholly as a proprietary entity
[08:22] <kkathman> so its easy for them to just give you their own libraries with the application
[08:23] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> i thought it would be nice to have like a separate harddrive with ALL the dependencies that update itself every few days , and if any app thats installing would be able to automatically grab those dependencied from there if they are missing in the system
[08:23] <kkathman> its a different mindset in Linux, where those libraries are OSS
[08:24] <NthDegree> it's better this way
[08:24] <kkathman> NthDegree:  well its different
[08:24] <NthDegree> because you can recompile software with newer libraries
[08:24] <kkathman> and it has pros and cons of course
[08:24] <NthDegree> and thus make things more stable quicker
[08:25] <NthDegree> yes but my system has been as stable as anything
[08:25] <NthDegree> and fast too
[08:25] <NthDegree> i used to think windows 2003 was stable
[08:25] <NthDegree> but ubuntu's updatability and flexibility is something microsoft will never match
[08:26] <imbrandon> please take non support to -offtopic ( if you dont go there thats fine but this is not the place for it )
[08:26] <kkathman> Im amazed at people that claim that windows XP, for instance, isnt stable... I've been running it since its inception, and have had one crash (if you could call it that)...and ZERO viruses or spyware.
[08:26] <imbrandon> kkathman, last time i'm going to ask
[08:26] <kkathman> its all in the way that you administer the system I think
[08:26] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> yup
[08:26] <NthDegree> same here kkathman
[08:27] <maltron> crimsun: I'm here!
[08:27] <crimsun> maltron: what apps are you using when you have those problems?
[08:27] <kkathman> but keeping a clean windows system is like keeping a clean linux system...takes patience, knowledge and expertise :)
[08:27] <NthDegree> but i've had friends who have got viruses within 5 seconds and i even tried setting up their system after applying darik's boot and nuke
[08:28] <NthDegree> ?
[08:28] <maltron> crimsun: pretty much anything and everything.  mplayer, amarok, skype, gaim
[08:28] <NthDegree> excuse me but i'm confused
[08:28] <NthDegree> why did you kick kkathman, is he not an op?
[08:28] <bloody_kenny> bye
[08:28] <imbrandon> NthDegree, soory if i confused you
[08:29] <maltron> crimsun: in fact I think it was skype beta which caused the problem to begin with, or at least led me to doing something that cause the problem, such as fiddling with kernel modules, but i've uninstalled it and have gone back to skype 1.2 now
[08:29] <crimsun> why was kkathman kikced?
[08:29] <crimsun> (kicked)
[08:29] <NthDegree> yeah, banned rather
[08:29] <crimsun> maltron: can you test this?
[08:29] <crimsun> maltron: use two different instances of ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav''
[08:32] <crimsun> maltron: let me know if you can hear both instances of aplay at the same time
[08:32] <crimsun> maltron: sometimes it helps to space them out a few seconds
[08:32] <maltron> crimsun: okay, i could hear both, but when I run skype there's a conflict
[08:32] <crimsun> maltron: right.
[08:32] <crimsun> maltron: are you using the latest Skype beta that supports ALSA?
[08:33] <crazy_penguin> good morning to all!
[08:33] <maltron> i've gone back to skype 1.2 because skype beta seems to have caused the problem to begin with
[08:33] <imbrandon> moins crazy_penguin
[08:33] <Snake> imbrandon: I would like to know as well. Whats up with the kkathman kick.
[08:33] <maltron> crimsun: thing is, mixing was fine until yesterday
[08:33] <sensei> Oh.. my.. GOD what has happened to xfce?
[08:33] <sensei> Crashes, bugs, uglyness!
[08:33] <maltron> crimsun: so i guess the answer is "no"
[08:33] <imbrandon> Snake, i asked repeatly to take it to offtopic or drop the non-support convo , as im asking you now
[08:34] <crimsun> maltron: ok, well if you're not using the later Skype beta, it's a known issue.
[08:34] <crimsun> maltron: older Skype betas use [ALSA's]  OSS [emulation] , which require exclusive access
[08:35] <crimsun> maltron: thus unless you have a sound card capable of pcm multiopen, any other apps that attempt to access the sound device after Skype grabs it will block
[08:35] <maltron> crimsun: i see what you mean, but that's not the problem, as even mplayer has the issue
[08:35] <sensei> Lol, even the "run program" dialog in xfce under kubuntu crashes
[08:36] <crimsun> maltron: which audio driver is mplayer using?
[08:36] <maltron> crimsun: as I said, mixing was fine before i installed the new beta of skype
[08:36] <maltron> crimsun: probably oss
[08:37] <maltron> crimsun: the "available" drivers are mpegpes, oss, null and pcm
[08:37] <crimsun> maltron: hmm, did you compile mplayer yourself?
[08:37] <maltron> crimsun: yes
[08:38] <crimsun> maltron: that explains why you're having said issues with mplayer.
[08:38] <LouKall> fufuck.
[08:38] <crimsun> maltron: you didn't have libasound2-dev installed when you compiled mplayer, so you don't have alsa support.
[08:38] <maltron> crimsun: but why didn't I have the issue before?
[08:38] <crimsun> maltron: were you using Ubuntu's mplayer package?
[08:38] <maltron> crimsun: I get what you mean, and it all makes sense, but everything was fine yesterday!
[08:39] <maltron> crimsun: no, I was always using this custom build of mplayer
[08:39] <crimsun> maltron: ``cat /proc/asound/modules''
[08:39] <imbrandon> LouKall, can we keep the language civil please
[08:40] <maltron> crimsun: 0 snd_intel8x0
[08:40] <crimsun> maltron: that driver does not assume the underlying hardware supports pcm multiopen.
[08:41] <crimsun> maltron: do you have a custom /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc* ?
[08:41] <sensei> Is it reasonable for xfces Terminal to hog 52 mb memory? o.O
[08:41] <maltron> crimsun: i'm pretty sure the hardware doesn't supprot it - in debian sarge, which I used to have installed, i got no mixing - which is why I was initially impressed with ubuntu because the mixing worked
[08:42] <maltron> crimsun: i might but I didn't set it up myself, so I guess not
[08:42] <imbrandon> sensei, probably not but it might be good to ask in #xubuntu ;)
[08:42] <imbrandon> heh
[08:42] <sensei> Has the ubuntu team made some clever changes to xfce, or is it them selves that's created this beast during the last two versions?
[08:42] <sensei> True
[08:42] <crimsun> sensei: it's composed of svn snapshots and not 4.4 beta 1
[08:42] <maltron> crimsun: nope, no .asoundrc
[08:42] <sensei> crimsun: Ah, that explains a thing or two
[08:43] <maltron> crimsun: in fact, no /etc/asound.conf either
[08:43] <crimsun> maltron: ok, good.
[08:43] <NthDegree> xubuntu is still young so it will be buggy in some areas
[08:43] <crimsun> maltron: please install libasound2-dev and recompile mplayer
[08:44] <crimsun> maltron: if you have an ~/.mplayer/config or /etc/mplayer/config, make sure ao=alsa is set
[08:44] <Breadmachine> hello all
[08:44] <maltron> crimsun: okay, but I don't think that's the real issue.   essentially what happened was that skype beta crashed, and hung the system for about 2 minutes, and then mixing ceased to happen.  I then got rid of skype beta, rrmod -f a couple of modules, put them back, rebooted, and now no mixing.
[08:45] <maltron> crimsun: if it isn't mplayer, it'll be something else
[08:45] <Breadmachine> im running kubuntu using a geoforce FX5200 as my display adapter, and my resolution is stuck at 1024x768, any ideas on how to get it up to 1280x1024?
[08:45] <maltron> crimsun: if you know what I mean
[08:45] <crimsun> maltron: mixing /does/ work; you just confirmed it.
[08:45] <imbrandon> Breadmachine, have you tried to install the nvidia drivers ?
[08:45] <maltron> crimsun: good point, but only with alsa stuff - it used to work with non-alsa stuff like mplayer too
[08:45] <maltron> crimsun: that's why I'm a little confused
[08:46] <crimsun> maltron: do you just have that one sound card?
[08:46] <maltron> crimsun: yep
[08:46] <imbrandon> Breadmachine, try this link from ubotu if you havent yet
[08:46] <imbrandon> !nvidia > Breadmachine
[08:46] <crimsun> maltron: because technically it wouldn't have worked with oss emulation at all (dmix)
[08:46] <maltron> hmm
[08:46] <Breadmachine> imbrandon: what would be the easiest way to do that? keep in mind im REALLY new to linux, be gentle
[08:46] <maltron> crimsun: now i'm _really_ confused.  Of course, I could be losing my mind...
[08:47] <imbrandon> heh Breadmachine ubotu should have just PM'd you a link, it has easy instructions
[08:47] <crimsun> maltron: Kubuntu's mplayer supports alsa
[08:47] <Breadmachine> imbrandon: thanks bud
[08:47] <imbrandon> np , just come back if you have issues
[08:47] <imbrandon> but should be easy
[08:48] <maltron> crimsun: yeah, but it doesn't do some proprietary formats properly, so that's why i compiled it, and all was hunky-dory for a while...
[08:48] <crimsun> maltron: ok, then just install libasound2-dev and recompile it
[08:49] <maltron> crimsun: AHA - libasound2-dev is already installed
[08:49] <Breadmachine> imbrandon: those are the instructions for gnome with synaptic, i installed kubuntu to get away from Gnome
[08:49] <maltron> crimsun: just a tic lemme check somethign
[08:49] <imbrandon> Breadmachine, ok one moment
[08:51] <Breadmachine> imbrandon: will i need to enable universe and multiverse for this?
[08:52] <imbrandon> Breadmachine, not sure, but most likely
[08:52] <imbrandon> checking now
[08:52] <maltron> crimsun: maybe i installed it yesterday by accident
[08:54] <imbrandon> Breadmachine, ok ready open a "konsole" and type " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx " ( no quotes )
[08:54] <crimsun> maltron: (not sure how one installs a package 'by accident')
[08:54] <imbrandon> let me know when thats done
[08:55] <maltron> crimsun: i have a habit of installing things I don't really need... and things that "look" important
[08:55] <fiyawerx> after installing nvidia-glx i have to do a  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose a higher resolution option, that's what i've done on my 6600GT like 8 times i've installed, prob an easier way but that works for me heh
[08:55] <maltron> crimsun: hmm, mplayer won't compile anymore
[08:55] <crimsun> maltron: apt-get build-dep mplayer
[08:55] <imbrandon> fiyawerx, i was getting to that just stepping him htrough it
[08:55] <maltron> what's build-dep do?
[08:55] <Breadmachine> imbrandon: i got a series of errors
[08:55] <crimsun> maltron: installs the build-dependencies.
[08:55] <fiyawerx> yeah, started typing that before
[08:55] <imbrandon> Breadmachine, can you pastebin them ( http://www.pastebin.ca )
[08:56] <Breadmachine> ah, finally an easy way to get errors across...
[08:56] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:56] <Breadmachine> how do i copy from konsole?
[08:57] <imbrandon> just like any other app, select it and right click , copy
[08:57] <Breadmachine> imbrandon: http://pastebin.ca/83018
[08:57] <imbrandon> *looks*
[08:58] <imbrandon> ok Breadmachine type this in konsole  " kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list " and pastebin that file for me
[08:58] <imbrandon> but keep it open please ( i will have you make a few changes )
[08:59] <imbrandon> gnight Snake[Sleep] 
[08:59] <Breadmachine> imbrandon: hang on a sec, my wireless mouse just died...
[09:00] <imbrandon> ok np i got time
[09:00] <maltron> crimsun: i really appreciate your help, but I'm still convinced I've done something lethal to my system.  It's compileing now, so I'll see how that goes - i mean, if I can't compile mplayer, then there's bound to be something I _need_ to compile that i won't be able to , so I'm gonna stick this one out.  Thanks again.  I'll let you know if it works if you're still around when it's done
[09:00] <maltron> crimsun: ah, it's probably becausee i didn't do make clean...
[09:00] <Breadmachine> imbrandon: okay...just got ANOTHER error...odd
[09:01] <maltron> crimsun: i'm a stoopid head
[09:01] <imbrandon> what ?
[09:01] <Breadmachine> imbrandon: http://pastebin.ca/83020
[09:02] <maltron> crimsun: just one other question, isn't artsd or esd supposed to mix sounds even if they're not alsa?
[09:02] <imbrandon> Breadmachine, those errors are normal, did kwrite oopen with the file ?
[09:02] <crimsun> maltron: yes
[09:03] <maltron> crimsun: so does my problem  imply that there's something wrong with one or both of them?
[09:03] <paolo> exscuse me
[09:03] <crimsun> it doesn't imply anything about either of them.
[09:03] <paolo> how to install the .bin files???
[09:03] <maltron> crimsun: oh
[09:03] <Breadmachine> imbrandon: my mouse just died for good for the night, im gonna have to log off....
[09:03] <imbrandon> paolo, depends on the bin file, not all are installable
[09:04] <Breadmachine> imbrandon: no kwrite didnt open
[09:04] <imbrandon> Breadmachine, ok hit me up tomarrow or whenever i'm always here
[09:04] <paolo> I think that my file is not installable
[09:04] <imbrandon> paolo, what .bin ?
[09:04] <paolo> is the jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin
[09:04] <imbrandon> paolo, what are you trying to install ?
[09:04] <imbrandon> paolo, sun java is avaible in the repo
[09:04] <imbrandon> you need multiverse enabled
[09:05] <imbrandon> and then can install it by " sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre "
[09:05] <paolo> becouse it show me a error if I white "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre"
[09:05] <imbrandon> do you have universe and multiverse enabled ?
[09:06] <imbrandon> paolo, ??
[09:06] <paolo> yes yes
[09:06] <paolo> "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[09:07] <imbrandon> that means you have adept or another pkg manager open probbly
[09:07] <imbrandon> make sure they are all closed
[09:07] <imbrandon> and try again
[09:07] <paolo> no, no
[09:07] <paolo> I have try from yesterday
[09:07] <paolo> the problem is same
[09:08] <maltron> crimsun: okay, mplayer now works with asound and amarok as long as i run it with -ao alsa (which I obviously never had to do before) and of course skype gives no sound
[09:08] <imbrandon> paolo, ok try this " sudo dpkg --configure -a "
[09:08] <imbrandon> tell me what happens
[09:08] <paolo> imbrandon, ok
[09:08] <ChefWill> anyone know a kde/linux equivalent of the apple dashboard/widgets ?
[09:08] <paolo> never reply
[09:09] <paolo> it show me the normaly string "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[09:09] <imbrandon> paolo, thats good , now try the first command i gave you
[09:09] <paolo> exscuse me
[09:09] <sensei> ChefWill: That question would be even more likely to be replied if you explained what dashboard/widgets are
[09:09] <paolo> "paolo@paolo-desktop:~$"
[09:09] <paolo> okok
[09:09] <imbrandon> ChefWill, check out SuperKaramba
[09:09] <ChefWill> sensei: its hard to explain, if you had it -youd know what htey were ;P
[09:09] <ChefWill> imbrandon: already have, dont like it
[09:09] <imbrandon> ChefWill, thats the KDE equiv
[09:10] <ChefWill> ;/
[09:10] <sensei> ChefWill: Ah, I know what superkaramba is
[09:10] <crimsun> maltron: skype requires exclusive access.
[09:10] <imbrandon> ChefWill, sorry bro thats the KDE equiq, in gnome its gdesklets
[09:10] <maltron> crimsun: thanks again.  I'll forever remain suspicious of my system, but at least some things work.  It may well be that I never, for whatever reason, had a skype call when I was running other sounds - which obvioulsy implies that I'm an idiot.
[09:10] <paolo> imbrandon, same error
[09:10] <imbrandon> paolo,  ok one moment let me check something
[09:10] <paolo> yes, thank you
[09:11] <imbrandon> paolo, ok type " cd /var/lock " and then do a " ls " in that directory and tell me if there is a dpkg file
[09:11] <maltron> crimsun: maybe because i had alsa all nicely set up on ubuntu (as opposed to debian) I assumed all would be well.  But it doesn't quite make sense - mplayer, without alsa, was mixed... ah well.  Your help was Much appreciated
[09:12] <maltron> cheers
[09:12] <benkyoto> hello everyone. absolute newb here. I got Ubuntu working a while ago, and I have come across some "K" applications I would really want to try. Do I have to install KDE for them to run, or is there a way of having the "best of two worlds"?
[09:12] <paolo> imbrandon, apache2  evms-engine  fax  LCK..rfcomm0  lvm
[09:12] <crimsun> maltron: np
[09:13] <imbrandon> benkyoto, you can just " sudo apt-get install <any "k" app here> and it will get what it needs to run ( including in gnome )
[09:14] <imbrandon> crimsun, hrm do you know anything else that would be tying up dpkg for paolo ? i had him look for the lock file and no adept running and he did dpkg --configure -a
[09:14] <benkyoto> ty imbrandon. is there any other merit in giving KDE a try? If I use the KDE desktop can I still run the apps that have been working perfectly under Gnome?
[09:14] <crimsun> imbrandon: I need to read scrollback.
[09:14] <imbrandon> benkyoto, sure and sure ;)
[09:15] <imbrandon> ok , paolo give us one moment , crimsun is going to try to help you also ( he is going to scroll back and read what we have done already )
[09:16] <crimsun> paolo: please remove (purge, actually) any sun-java5* packages you've attempted to install
[09:17] <benkyoto> ty again. Worst case scenario, is uninstalling and reverting to Gnome straightforward and "clean"? Sry if my questions are stupid, but last time I used xserv Internet wasn't even called that way. Too many years of Windows mind-numbedness.
[09:18] <imbrandon> benkyoto, in other words for the MOSTPART kde/gnome live happy togather
[09:18] <imbrandon> and so do their apps
[09:18] <imbrandon> ;)
[09:18] <benkyoto> cool
[09:18] <crimsun> barring the ~/.gtkrc-2.0 from gtk2-engines-gtk-qt, which cases endless headaches.
[09:19] <crimsun> causes^
[09:19] <imbrandon> heh yea crimsun ;)
[09:20] <paolo> imbrandon, I must whire apt-get remove sun-java5*
[09:20] <benkyoto> if someone can point me to some web resource that highlights the merits of KDE, that would be helpful. The kubuntu website is not too promotional, I should say.
[09:20] <paolo> ??
[09:20] <crimsun> paolo: first, paste the output from ``dpkg -l sun-java5\*'' onto http://pastebin.ca
[09:20] <imbrandon> yea ^^
[09:21] <benkyoto> Ty lots imbrandon, U've been very helpful ^o^/
[09:21] <imbrandon> np
[09:22] <Melchiorre> benkyoto: http://www.spreadkde.org/switch_to_KDE
[09:22] <paolo> crimsun, 4 packege not disponile
[09:22] <crimsun> paolo: please paste all the output onto http://pastebin.ca, then tell us the URL
[09:24] <benkyoto> ty, cya fellas m(_ _)m
[09:28] <maltron> awesome help, thanks - o&o
[09:31] <thomas> can i use ubunut binaries under kubunut?
[09:32] <crimsun> yes.
[09:32] <Smeggy> yup
[09:32] <thomas> cool, thx... that saves me some time
[09:34] <paolo> crimsun,wait
[09:35] <paolo> crimsun, I have post, why?????
[09:35] <paolo> http://pastebin.ca/83036
[09:35] <crimsun> paolo: ok, that looks good.
[09:36] <crimsun> paolo: now, what is the output from ``sudo apt-get check''
[09:36] <crimsun> ?
[09:36] <paolo> never
[09:36] <crimsun> paolo: "never"?
[09:37] <paolo> yes
[09:37] <paolo> $ sudo apt-get check
[09:37] <paolo> Password:
[09:37] <paolo> Lettura della lista dei pacchetti in corso... Fatto
[09:38] <paolo> Generazione dell'albero delle dipendenze in corso... Fatto
[09:38] <paolo> paolo@paolo-desktop:~$
[09:38] <paolo> and stop
[09:40] <crimsun> paolo: Ok, now use Adept to install sun-java5-jre and sun-java5-plugin
[09:40] <crimsun> paolo: (not apt-get or aptitude)
[09:41] <ChefWill> !p2p
[09:41] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network). BitTorrent: see !torrent Direct connect: try valknut
[09:41] <paolo> ok
[09:41] <oomph> !torrent
[09:41] <paolo> II open adept
[09:41] <paolo> I
[09:41] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt) Bittorent faq: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[09:44] <paolo> crimsun, ok, it download the package
[09:46] <paolo> ok
[09:46] <paolo> I have installed MythTV time ago, but I can't start it. What I can setup it???
[09:49] <jamesconf> Hi, The live CD seams to hang right before X starts up. Are there known problems with the GeFroce 6XXXX line fo video cards?
[09:49] <paolo> boys?
[09:52] <RawSewage> jamesconf, the final version ?
[09:53] <jamesconf> Yes.
[09:53] <RawSewage> did you verify the CD burn
[09:53] <RawSewage> or was it a prepackaged CD
[09:54] <jamesconf> No I did not verify the CD burn
[09:54] <RawSewage> oh wait
[09:54] <RawSewage> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=71146
[09:54] <jamesconf> If it was a kernel panic I would :), but an X crash on an nvidia card is pretty common
[09:55] <RawSewage> nm, I have no idea
[09:55] <jamesconf> Understood
[09:56] <jamesconf> I think last time I tried this out I had to start with  FBDev. I will mess around with the options later then.
[09:57] <jamesconf> Know where some boot loader options are listed at?
[09:58] <RawSewage> no, I dont know much
[09:59] <RawSewage> maybe ask in #Ubuntu
[10:03] <Henk> I have a laptop with thouchpad. My problem is that it detects 'mouseclicks' far to soon. If i just lift my finger and put it down again to drag a bit further most of the time a click is registered. In windows my driver lets me set the 'trigger happyness" of it. but i can find something like that in kde. How do  I change it ?
[10:04] <exclipy> What brand is your laptop?
[10:04] <Henk> its an asus aspire 3000
[10:04] <exclipy> I'm not sure how you find out the type of touchpad you have, but if it's a synaptic one, you can configure the driver in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:05] <Henk> its synaptic
[10:06] <Henk> i'm going to take a look
[10:06] <exclipy> look in xorg.conf and see if the line Load "synaptics" exists
[10:06] <exclipy> and if you have an InputDevice using Driver "synaptics"
[10:06] <exclipy> having xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed is also required
[10:07] <Henk> ah the xorg config seems to say my mouse is a generic ps2
[10:08] <exclipy> ok, under Section "Module", add the line Load "synaptics"
[10:08] <exclipy> and configure an input device to use the "synaptics" driver
[10:08] <exclipy> hang on, I'll try and find a template of options...
[10:10] <exclipy>  /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/README.Debian has installation/configuration instructions.
[10:12] <Henk> ok i found a sample config on the net pasted that in there
[10:13] <Henk> the xserver synaptics package was already installed so i'm going to restart X now. lets hope this works... thanks so far
[10:20] <LouKall> its soooo late.
[10:20] <LouKall> ywan.
[10:21] <escay> hi all, got a problem with dpkg. someone here who can help me? if i use "dpkg -s pakagename" it returns "status: purge ok half-configured"
[10:24] <freddy> heyy
[10:25] <freddy> how are you
[10:25] <freddy> is any1 here ?
[10:25] <freddy> if i need to mount
[10:25] <freddy> mdf/mds files
[10:25] <freddy> how can i in iubuntu
[10:25] <LouKall> im here.
[10:25] <LouKall> its late.
[10:25] <freddy> ubuntu*
[10:25] <LouKall> or early.
[10:25] <LouKall> in the morning.
[10:26] <freddy> lol
[10:26] <LouKall> three...twenty six.
[10:26] <freddy> any1 knows how to mount an mdf/mds iso file in ubuntu
[10:26] <LouKall> i like mounting...
[10:26] <freddy> i know how to mount .iso but not .bin/cue and mdf/mds
[10:26] <LouKall> all night long.
[10:27] <freddy> :PPPP
[10:27] <freddy> nah really
[10:27] <LouKall> i got nothing.
[10:27] <LouKall> besides a trashbag full of kittens.
[10:27] <freddy> can i emulate daemon
[10:27] <freddy> with wine ?
[10:27] <LouKall> seriously.
[10:28] <LouKall> three days experience.
[10:28] <LouKall> thats all i got.
[10:28] <freddy> i see
[10:28] <freddy> no experienced person here...
[10:28] <freddy> ?
[10:28] <LouKall> nope
[10:28] <freddy> lol
[10:28] <LouKall> sorry bub.
[10:28] <freddy> i thought there was 230 users here
[10:28] <LouKall> hahahahahahhaaha
[10:28] <LouKall> lmao
[10:28] <LouKall> indeed.
[10:29] <freddy> :P
[10:29] <LouKall> they are all named nick, too.
[10:29] <freddy> so
[10:29] <freddy> i guess i got to go
[10:29] <LouKall> search!
[10:29] <LouKall> google.
[10:29] <LouKall> cya
[10:29] <freddy> cyaz
[10:29] <snikker> freddy: you can try with cdemu... but i never used it...
[10:29] <snikker> freddy: he's gone
[10:31] <fayol> what i should do to give irc download free in my router firewall?
[10:42] <oomph> i notice that source list includes both unstable and testing trees which does apt use? the newest version?
[10:42] <oomph> do i have to enable any type of apt "pinning"
[10:43] <oomph> oops wrong channel my bad :P
[10:46] <bluesceada> hi
[10:46] <bluesceada> is there some modules-blacklist in kubuntu?
[10:46] <bluesceada> it always loads so much modules it detects the hardware for
[10:47] <bluesceada> but i dont need all those
[10:47] <bluesceada> i dont use the most of them
[10:47] <bluesceada> how can i blacklist those?
[10:50] <naranha>  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[10:51] <bluesceada> naranha: ah thanks, thats just for boot, i hope (so i could manually load them without having to change that file)?
[10:59] <railk> how do you make symbolic links?
[11:01] <bluesceada> railk: "ln -s /original /link"
[11:02] <railk> thx
[11:02] <bluesceada> np
[11:11] <MilhousePunkRock> hi everyone
[11:16] <Pupeno> With htop I see that one of my processors is at 100%, the other varies. It seems the problem is X, it is running at 1.7 but it makes peaks to 57% (the strange thing is that when it makes a peak the other processor gets usage). Any ideas ?
[11:19] <imbrandon> bertu, ready ?
[11:19] <bertu> iyes
[11:19] <imbrandon> ok forgive me i type slow tonight but follow what i say
[11:19] <imbrandon> open a terminal and close all other apps
[11:19] <bertu> are you tonight?
[11:19] <bertu> including konversation?
[11:20] <imbrandon> no no
[11:20] <bertu> o ok
[11:20] <imbrandon> hehe just synaptic and stuff
[11:20] <oomph> when i log out of kde it aotumatically kicks on another login screen ... how do I kill kde so I only have a command prompt? im trying to update my nvidia drivers
[11:20] <bertu> got you
[11:20] <bertu> i opened it
[11:20] <imbrandon> oomph, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm/stop
[11:20] <imbrandon> bertu,  ok now ...
[11:21] <bertu> then..
[11:21] <oomph> thx
[11:21] <imbrandon> gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:21] <imbrandon> sorry i said i type slow tonight
[11:21] <imbrandon> heh
[11:21] <imbrandon> please be patient
[11:21] <bertu> ok
[11:21] <imbrandon> ok got that open ?
[11:21] <bertu> yes
[11:21] <bertu> waot
[11:21] <bertu> wait
[11:22] <bertu> 2 days ago i typed this
[11:22] <imbrandon> ?
[11:22] <bertu> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse main restricted
[11:22] <bertu> deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[11:22] <imbrandon> ok and ?
[11:22] <imbrandon> ok good
[11:22] <imbrandon> close that then
[11:22] <bertu> ok
[11:23] <bertu> next
[11:23] <imbrandon> now in terminal type this with no quotes " sudo apt-get update && apt-get -y install libxine-extracodecs "
[11:24] <bertu> ok
[11:24] <imbrandon> that done ?
[11:24] <bertu> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[11:24] <bertu> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[11:24] <imbrandon> open amarok and play an mp3 ;)
[11:24] <bertu> look
[11:24] <imbrandon> ahh sorry
[11:24] <imbrandon> wait
[11:24] <imbrandon> now in terminal type this with no quotes " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install libxine-extracodecs "
[11:25] <imbrandon> ^^ fixed
[11:25] <Sunnyblizard> Hey, can someone help me with an error?
[11:25] <Sunnyblizard> I can't compile xChat :S
[11:25] <bertu> ok
[11:26] <Sunnyblizard> In the config.log file it sais:
[11:26] <imbrandon> bertu, work that time ?
[11:26] <Sunnyblizard> Thread model: posix
[11:26] <bertu> give it a minute
[11:26] <Sunnyblizard> gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)
[11:26] <Sunnyblizard> configure:2370: $? = 0
[11:26] <Sunnyblizard> configure:2372: gcc -V </dev/null >&5
[11:26] <Sunnyblizard> gcc: '-V' option must have argument
[11:26] <Sunnyblizard> configure:2375: $? = 1
[11:26] <imbrandon> Sunnyblizard, try #ubuntu they can help with gtk apps betetr
[11:26] <Sunnyblizard> configure:2398: checking for C compiler default output file name
[11:26] <bertu> nothing
[11:26] <Sunnyblizard> configure:2401: gcc    conftest.c  >&5
[11:26] <Sunnyblizard> /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[11:26] <bertu> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:26] <bertu> Need to get 1176kB of archives.
[11:26] <bertu> After unpacking 3047kB of additional disk space will be used.
[11:26] <bertu> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[11:26] <bertu>   libxine-extracodecs
[11:26] <bertu> E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes
[11:26] <bertu> lool
[11:27] <bertu> look
[11:27] <imbrandon> dont paste please
[11:27] <imbrandon> thats why i just kicked him
[11:27] <bertu> ok sry
[11:27] <bertu> it is still not working
[11:27] <imbrandon> ok lets try this one more time ....
[11:27] <bertu> ok
[11:28] <imbrandon> now in terminal type this with no quotes " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs "
[11:28] <imbrandon> tell it yes to everything
[11:28] <control> hello
[11:28] <imbrandon> Sunnyblizard, please dont paste
[11:28] <bertu> ok
[11:28] <Sunnyblizard> I'm sorry :/
[11:28] <imbrandon> Sunnyblizard, use pastebin.ca
[11:28] <imbrandon> Sunnyblizard, np just rember for next time
[11:28] <Sunnyblizard> ok
[11:29] <Sunnyblizard> But can you help me :S?
[11:29] <bertu> lets see..
[11:29] <imbrandon> Sunnyblizard, try #ubuntu as xchat is a gtk/gnome app
[11:29] <bertu> nothing :(
[11:29] <Sunnyblizard> But its a global problem, i can't compile anything
[11:29] <control> http://dating.ru/?dating=13660
[11:29] <imbrandon> nothing what ?
[11:30] <bertu> no music
[11:30] <imbrandon> Sunnyblizard, do you have the tools installed and have you read the ubuntu packaging guide ?
[11:30] <bertu> when i play a song it just starts and finished
[11:30] <Sunnyblizard> I installed gcc
[11:31] <imbrandon> bertu, did libxine install ?
[11:31] <imbrandon> !packageguide
[11:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about packageguide
[11:31] <imbrandon> Sunnyblizard, you need alot more than gcc
[11:31] <bertu> i think so
[11:31] <mindspin> build-essentials
[11:31] <Sunnyblizard> lol, i'm a n00b in Linux ;)
[11:31] <imbrandon> try build-essential to start off
[11:31] <Sunnyblizard> Ok!
[11:31] <mindspin> ! build-essentials
[11:31] <imbrandon> Sunnyblizard, why are you compiling something ?
[11:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about build-essentials
[11:31] <bertu> i did what you told me
[11:31] <mindspin> !build-essentials
[11:32] <imbrandon> bertu, restart amarok
[11:32] <bertu> ok
[11:32] <imbrandon> Sunnyblizard, why are you compling xchat ?
[11:32] <Sunnyblizard> @Brandon, because i want to install it?
[11:33] <bertu> ok it is working :D
[11:33] <bertu> 10x a lot
[11:33] <imbrandon> Sunnyblizard, type " sudo apt-get install xchat "
[11:33] <imbrandon> bertu, your welcome
[11:33] <bertu> bye bye
[11:33] <imbrandon> bertu, stop by amarok and let them know you got it ;)
[11:33] <Sunnyblizard> thats the problem, it can't finf anything.
[11:34] <imbrandon> Sunnyblizard, ok well thats the way to install things, what do you mean you "cant find anything" ?
[11:34] <imbrandon> lets fix that
[11:34] <Sunnyblizard> sudo apt-get install xchat
[11:34] <Sunnyblizard> E: Couldn't find package xchat
[11:34] <control> Greetings to all. My name is Ilya I from Russia. Who can answer pair my questions?
[11:34] <imbrandon> Sunnyblizard, ok do you konw how to open /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor ?
[11:34] <imbrandon> !ask
[11:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:34] <Sunnyblizard> jes^^
[11:34] <Sunnyblizard> Have a moment
[11:34] <mindspin> control:  ask , then we might know
[11:35] <imbrandon> ok Sunnyblizard paste the contents of your sources.list to pastebin.ca
[11:35] <control> ok
[11:35] <imbrandon> Sunnyblizard, are you in kubuntu or ubuntu ?
[11:35] <mindspin> !ru
[11:35] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[11:35] <Sunnyblizard> kubuntu
[11:36] <Sunnyblizard> What is pastebin.ca?
[11:36] <imbrandon> ok Sunnyblizard " kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list " paste it to ... http://www.pastebin.ca
[11:36] <imbrandon> then give me the url
[11:36] <Sunnyblizard> ok
[11:37] <bertu> sry i am back
[11:37] <Sunnyblizard> http://pastebin.ca/83086
[11:37] <imbrandon> ok one moment
[11:37] <control> Here somebody to speak Russian?
[11:37] <imbrandon> !ru
[11:37] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[11:37] <Twist> control: Try #kubuntu-ru
[11:38] <Pupeno> The module for the internal wireless board is consumming 100% of one processor. I don't use the board. How do I prevent it from loading ?
[11:38] <imbrandon> Sunnyblizard, ok see those top two lines ? make them look like this .....
[11:38] <imbrandon> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[11:38] <imbrandon> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[11:38] <imbrandon> then save the file and exit it
[11:39] <Sunnyblizard> #is a comment isn't it ?
[11:39] <imbrandon> yes
[11:39] <imbrandon> make the top lines look like the ones i pasted
[11:40] <imbrandon> note the universe and multiverse at the end
[11:40] <Sunnyblizard> Mmh, don't have write permissions
[11:40] <Sunnyblizard> have a moment
[11:40] <imbrandon> thats why i said " kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list "
[11:40] <control> #ubuntu-ru This channel empty
[11:40] <control> _
[11:40] <imbrandon> that will give ya write permissions
[11:41] <Sunnyblizard> kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:41] <imbrandon> yes
[11:41] <Sunnyblizard> kdesu: cannot connect to X server
[11:41] <imbrandon> ok still have the teminal open ?
[11:42] <imbrandon> type " sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list "
[11:42] <control> Really disks ubuntu to Russia are sent free of charge?
[11:42] <Pupeno> control: yes.
[11:43] <uniq> sunnyblizard: 'xhost local:' (will take care of the cannot connect to X server problem, allowing all local connections through.
[11:43] <uniq> )
[11:43] <Sunnyblizard> same error on: sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:43] <imbrandon> gah ok " sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list "
[11:43] <control> And what is the time the parcel post goes up to Russia?
[11:44] <imbrandon> 4 to 6 weeks control
[11:44] <Pupeno> how do I forbid a module for starting ?
[11:44] <imbrandon> Pupeno, /etc/module.d/blacklist
[11:45] <control> And thus I do not pay anything?
[11:45] <MilhousePunkRock> control, don't you know someone with a broadband connection and a CD burner?
[11:45] <imbrandon> control, correct
[11:45] <uniq> pupeno: put its name in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[11:45] <felix_E> anyone else having the 404 errors trying to aptitude upgrade?
[11:45] <imbrandon> Sunnyblizard, hows it going there bud, got quiet
[11:46] <imbrandon> felix_E, try a diffrent mirror
[11:46] <felix_E> Errhttp://de.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main libcupsys2-dev 1.2.1-0ubuntu1
[11:46] <Sunnyblizard> That did it :)
[11:46] <imbrandon> Sunnyblizard, ok got it saved?
[11:46] <Sunnyblizard> Yes
[11:46] <imbrandon> Sunnyblizard, ok now type " sudo apt-get update "
[11:46] <imbrandon> when thats done let me know
[11:47] <Sunnyblizard> Ok, it's updating
[11:47] <control> MilhousePunkRock>I do not understand sense of your question, please, set it in other form...
[11:47] <Pupeno> thank you.
[11:47] <imbrandon> control, he means you can download it for free also
[11:48] <MilhousePunkRock> If you knew someone with a fast connection and a burner, you could have Kubuntu within an hour, control
[11:48] <oomph> ls
[11:48] <imbrandon> ls -la
[11:48] <Sunnyblizard> Done, imbrandon
[11:49] <imbrandon> ok Sunnyblizard now type " sudo apt-get install xchat "
[11:49] <imbrandon> ;)
[11:49] <MilhousePunkRock> How do I extract a .tar.gz in the console?
[11:49] <Sunnyblizard> :)
[11:49] <control> MilhousePunkRock>No, it is bad idea
[11:49] <imbrandon> MilhousePunkRock, tar -zxvf blah.tar.gz
[11:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Why, control?
[11:49] <richardh_> Hi everyone, anybody care to answer a wifi related question?
[11:49] <imbrandon> !ask
[11:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:49] <Sunnyblizard> It's working ,thanks dude!
[11:50] <imbrandon> Sunnyblizard, np ;)
[11:50] <mattis^> morning, busy chanel, nice to see.
[11:50] <imbrandon> moins mattis^
[11:50] <Sunnyblizard> Al I did is changing the location of downloading the installes, isn't it?
[11:50] <MilhousePunkRock> imbrandon: That will put everything into the directory the .gz is, right?
[11:51] <control> MilhousePunkRock>Because I use GPRS the Internet, 1 mbyte of traffic costs 10 cents
[11:51] <richardh_> right, thanks: I did a fresh install of dapper on my laptop, wifi, to my surprise worked out of the box...I then did the updates the system told me I should, and then, after a restart, my wifi was gone...
[11:51] <imbrandon> MilhousePunkRock, yea
[11:51] <der_daniel> hi; i can't install the flashplugin on my kubuntu 6.06 with the console command 'sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree'
[11:51] <richardh_> so, kubuntu simply doesn't see my wifi adapter anymore
[11:51] <der_daniel> my sources.list looks like that: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/2104/
[11:51] <MilhousePunkRock> der_daniel: Did you try adept?
[11:51] <Sunnyblizard> @Imbrandon:
[11:51] <Sunnyblizard> Al I did is changing the location of downloading the installes, isn't it?
[11:51] <imbrandon> yup
[11:51] <Sunnyblizard> ok :)
[11:51] <der_daniel> and the error message says something of package not found
[11:51] <imbrandon> well more like added a location
[11:52] <der_daniel> hmmm yes MilhousePunkRock... i don't know whether i tried it correctly, though
[11:52] <MilhousePunkRock> control: Than it's not the best idea to download it yourself, but if some of your friends has a DSL or cable connection, that's still faster than ordering the disc
[11:52] <MilhousePunkRock> IIRC I installed flash with adept
[11:53] <richardh_> anyone?
[11:53] <MilhousePunkRock>  richardh_ Let me guess, you updated the kernel?
[11:54] <richardh_> milhouse...yes
[11:54] <control> MilhousePunkRock>My provider for technical reasons cannot give the allocated line for Internet connection
[11:54] <richardh_> so, can i simply do a rollback?
[11:54] <imbrandon> der_daniel, on lines 7 and 8 add " universe multiverse" to the end and try again
[11:54] <MilhousePunkRock> You could, richardh_, but once you update again, it's all the same
[11:55] <der_daniel> ok thanks imbrandon
[11:55] <richardh_> milhouse, what did you do then?
[11:55] <imbrandon> richard reinstall the wifi drivers
[11:55] <ubuntu> :P
[11:55] <MilhousePunkRock> That was half a day of working around, on my second day on Linux...
[11:55] <ninHer> hi all
[11:55] <ubuntu> anyonw know the cmd to install grub ?
[11:55] <imbrandon> ubuntu grub-install
[11:55] <ubuntu> ta. champ
[11:56] <ubuntu> i bloody installed it using desktop CD.. and it doesn't mention anything about GRUB after the install :O
[11:56] <MilhousePunkRock> But GRUB is there anyway, hippy...
[11:56] <hippy> :O
[11:56] <imbrandon> ubuntu it should have installed it
[11:56] <hippy> then why is it when i reboot
[11:56] <hippy> it goes straight into windows ?
[11:57] <imbrandon> did you make the /boot on a non ext3 or ext2 partition or on sw raid ?
[11:57] <hippy> eer
[11:57] <MilhousePunkRock> You need to hit ESC (or F1?) within 2 seconds on boot up to bring up the  GRUB menu
[11:57] <der_daniel> imbrandon are lines 32 and 32 not sufficient to acces the universe multiverse?
[11:57] <hippy> i made a linux-swap and / as ext3
[11:58] <imbrandon> hippy, then something went wrong in the install more than just grub not loading, are you sure your not missing the " hit esc to see the menu "
[11:58] <jimmy__> im trying to update my nvidia drivers and when i logout of kde it keeps kicking back in to the login screen
[11:58] <jimmy__> how do I prevent this from happen
[11:58] <jimmy__> ing
[11:58] <jimmy__> so that i can install the driver?
[11:58] <imbrandon> jimmy__, " sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[11:58] <hippy> hrm i don't know then
[11:58] <jimmy__> k
[11:59] <hippy> imbrandon: so you're sure it installs grub automatically when going through desktop CD ????
[11:59] <imbrandon> hippy, positive
[11:59] <hippy> i was always use to it just installing grub then when you boot it shows windows/linux
[11:59] <hippy> and you just select
[11:59] <hippy> dont have to hit esc
[11:59] <hippy> :O
[12:00] <Garnol> ist there a seperatet chat for every language ?
[12:00] <imbrandon> Garnol, most every one yes
[12:00] <hippy> imbrandon: is there anyway to check if grub is already installed ?
[12:00] <imbrandon> reboot and watch closely the post screen ;)
[12:00] <hippy> lol i meant via the live CD ?
[12:01] <hippy> well live boot off the cd
[12:01] <hippy> :O
[12:01] <imbrandon> not sure i'm sure you can but i dunno how
[12:01] <Garnol> @imbrandon: have you got a example .. maybe for the germen kubuntu chat?
[12:01] <imbrandon> !de
[12:01] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:01] <imbrandon> ;)
[12:01] <Garnol> thx
[12:01] <hippy> k BRB guys, i will try hit ESC lol
[12:01] <hippy> ta for the help
[12:01] <control> And there is an opportunity of a subscription to updatings?
[12:01] <imbrandon> control, its built in
[12:02] <imbrandon> control, free
[12:02] <imbrandon> control, its free for dapper for 3 years
[12:04] <ninHer> about Konversation irc client......how may i display all four windows at a time ?
[12:05] <imbrandon> ninHer, all four windows ?
[12:05] <serenity> 4 diff channels
[12:06] <oomph> im getting a could not compile gcc-version-check.c error while installing nvidia drivers
[12:06] <imbrandon> just join them, it will make tabs at the bottom
[12:06] <oomph> what do i need to correct this?
[12:06] <serenity> oomph: sudo apt-egt install build-essential
[12:06] <imbrandon> oomph, use the ones from the apt-get ;)
[12:06] <serenity> oomph: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:06] <oomph> k
[12:07] <ninHer> serenity: yes, 4 channels at a glance
[12:07] <oomph> imbrandon: what do you mean by the ones from apt=get?
[12:08] <oomph> specifically'
[12:08] <serenity> imbrandon: what could it be? I restarted x and after this my konqueror does not show a serach bar on the left. Before it was there.
[12:08] <imbrandon> oomph, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:09] <imbrandon> serenity, goto view ---> nav pannel
[12:09] <imbrandon> at the top of konq
[12:09] <oomph> k
[12:09] <ninHer> about Konversation irc client......how may i display all four channels at a time ?
[12:09] <imbrandon> serenity, or hit f9
[12:09] <ZeeGeek> I did a fresh installationg, network is not working with URLs but only IPs. I checked resolv.conf, the DNS servers were the same as in Windows.
[12:09] <imbrandon> ninHer, it makes tabs at the bottom for each cannel you are in
[12:10] <serenity> imbrandon: when i do this, i get this sidebar-thingy, but now search
[12:10] <ninHer> imbrandon:  yes, but i'd prefer the windows of them
[12:10] <hippy> imbrandon: no workie tried f1 and esc
[12:10] <ninHer> just like kvirc client
[12:10] <hippy> i just typed grub-install into the konsole and unknown cmd
[12:10] <hippy> :(
[12:11] <imbrandon> ninHer, konversation dosent do that
[12:11] <imbrandon> serenity, i dont know\
[12:11] <imbrandon> hippy, try an alternate install cd
[12:11] <ninHer> thanks imbrandon
[12:11] <hippy> :O
[12:11] <hippy> more downloading ... ARG!!!
[12:12] <hippy> btw, i installed using safe graphics mode because booting the first one didn't work
[12:12] <hippy> :O
[12:12] <hippy> but i wouldn't think that'd effect it
[12:13] <hippy> guess i will have tooooooo......... goign back to windows
[12:13] <hippy> to d.l alternative
[12:13] <hippy> :OOo
[12:19] <bobbin> join #kde
[12:19] <bobbin> oops
[12:21] <jumpkick> anyone here running XGL?
[12:21] <serenity> jumpkick: played around a bit
[12:22] <jumpkick> did you ever getting compiz to emulate kwin properly? seems whenever I start it up kwin dies and my windows have no frames... :(
[12:23] <serenity> kwin?
[12:23] <jumpkick> kwin is the window manager for kde, it gives you the window frames / title bars (minimize and resize windows)
[12:24] <imbrandon> jumpkick, xgl works with compiz ( kwin replacemnt )
[12:24] <imbrandon> compiz and kwin will not run togather
[12:24] <imbrandon> try #ubuntu-xgl
[12:25] <jumpkick> imbrandon, yeah I know it's supposed to replace kwin, but when I start compiz it doesn't emulate it at all...  k I'll try there... didn't know there was a channel for it now
[12:26] <control> Please click under this link http://dating.ru/?dating=13660. Help development of my site by the visiting.
[12:27] <iarwain> hi everyone
[12:28] <serenity> hi
[12:28] <imbrandon> control, dont advertise in here
[12:28] <sensei> control: Are you sure you don't make like 50p on each click or sth? ;)
[12:28] <iarwain> not much talkful people around here?
[12:28] <imbrandon> iarwain, its 530am ;)
[12:28] <iarwain> is this like a "general chat" or sth like that?
[12:29] <iarwain> rofl
[12:29] <iarwain> here it is 12.29
[12:29] <iarwain> =)
[12:29] <sensei> It's 11:29 :)
[12:29] <iarwain> in the afternoon :D
[12:29] <imbrandon> iarwain, no its support only, general chat is in #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:29] <iarwain> i don't know if that's pm or am :D
[12:29] <iarwain> ah
[12:29] <iarwain> sorry then :D
[12:29] <iarwain> well, good luck with your problems then ;-)
[12:30] <imbrandon> ;)
[12:31] <iarwain> people there are boring :D
[12:33] <iarwain> awch
[12:33] <hybrid> boring bleh
[12:33] <iarwain> :D
[12:33] <imbrandon> zhan, dont use auto aways in here please
[12:34] <hybrid> imbrandon: almost said that in #ubuntu
[12:34] <imbrandon> haha
[12:34] <zhan> imbrandon: sorry!
[12:34] <control>   
[12:34] <imbrandon> !ru
[12:34] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[12:49] <cristiano> hi people i hope u'll help me here since on ubuntuforums i had no help or answers :(
[12:50] <cristiano> i have an USB headphone and i'm using it as my primary sound device. i can hear sounds coming from system but not from some programs or games. how to make USB device DEFAULT sound device for EVERYTHING on my pc? thxxxxxxxxxxx
[12:51] <cristiano> pls guys help me!!! :(
[12:52] <slow-motion> hallo
[12:52] <cristiano> hallo slow-motion
[12:52] <slow-motion> hi cristiano
[12:54] <cristiano> so no clues about my question people??? please don't be like the others on the ubuntuforums which didn't even answer to me :(
[12:55] <serenity> cristiano: sorry, dunno
[12:55] <crimsun> cristiano: asoundconf list
[12:56] <cristiano> crimsun:  sry was it a command to use in the command line?
[12:56] <crimsun> cristiano: yes
[12:56] <cristiano> ok i have both the onboard V8237 (AC97) and the headset
[12:57] <cristiano> now?
[12:57] <crimsun> cristiano: I need the actual output.
[12:57] <cristiano> Names of available sound cards:
[12:57] <cristiano> V8237
[12:57] <cristiano> Headset
[12:57] <crimsun> cristiano: ok, now did you create/modify /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc* ?
[12:57] <cristiano> that's the output of asoundconf list
[12:58] <cristiano> negative
[12:58] <crimsun> ok, good. now: asoundconf set-default-card Headset
[12:58] <cristiano> crimsun: done
[12:58] <crimsun> ok, good. now test with: aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav
[12:58] <crimsun> they should play through your usb headset
[12:59] <cristiano> ok it's working
[12:59] <cristiano> i'll try using also other apps
[01:00] <cristiano> yeAHHHH
[01:00] <cristiano> it's working!!!!!
[01:00] <cristiano> ty soooooo much crimson!!! :)))))
[01:00] <crimsun> np
[01:00] <crimsun> for KDE, you may need to log out and back in
[01:01] <cristiano> crimsun: don't u know if the instructions u gave me are in some manual or tutorial??i've been searchin for this on the net but no success at all :(
[01:02] <crimsun> cristiano: they're probably on the wik
[01:02] <crimsun> i
[01:02] <cristiano> mmm i will try...it could be a good idea to add them if they are not present
[01:03] <crimsun> I'm pretty sure they are present somewhere.
[01:03] <crimsun> they'll be added to Kubuntu soon, hopefully, via a gui
[01:03] <crimsun> (Ubuntu has it already)
[01:04] <cristiano> ah i didn't know ubuntu had them
[01:04] <crimsun> well, they'll all use the same backend (asoundconf)
[01:05] <cristiano> wow in the wiki there is nothing about asoundconf O________O''
[01:05] <crimsun> there should be.
[01:06] <cristiano> i've searched right now and it gives me no result
[01:06] <crimsun> what about the forum?
[01:06] <cristiano> nothing
[01:06] <crimsun> that seems bizarre
[01:07] <cristiano> i've searched even there, no topics, so i opened one by myself and no replies!!!! that's why i was very desperate here :(
[01:07] <crimsun> well there are a /lot/ of forum posts; yours probably slipped through the cracks
[01:07] <cristiano> i've keeped bumped till today
[01:08] <cristiano> and it was read by 80 persons :D
[01:08] <crimsun> (the only reason I know is because I helped write that tool.)
[01:08] <oomph> i get this error The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:08] <oomph>   python-glade2: Depends: python2.4-glade2 (= 2.8.6-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[01:08] <oomph> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)
[01:08] <oomph> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:08] <oomph>   python-glade2: Depends: python2.4-glade2 (= 2.8.6-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[01:08] <oomph> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)
[01:08] <crimsun> please don't flood, oomph.
[01:09] <oomph> sorry
[01:09] <cristiano> and believe me crimsuni i am very very very thankful to have met u here today that helped me :D
[01:09] <crimsun> cristiano: np at all
[01:09] <oomph> i try installing python 2.4 but can't
[01:09] <crimsun> oomph: you don't seem to have the main repository enabled, then.
[01:10] <oomph> hrmm i thought i did
[01:10] <oomph> which one is that?
[01:10] <crimsun> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main
[01:11] <cristiano> oomph: it's a good idea to enable each repository when u install kubuntu-ubuntu
[01:11] <gatekeeper> oomph: do this then you get nearly everything :-) http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[01:11] <oomph> thank you
[01:12] <cristiano> crimsun: realplay still doesn't work with my headset :(
[01:13] <crimsun> cristiano: realplay is configured to use /dev/dsp, and your headset is /dev/dsp1
[01:13] <cristiano> so no chance to change this?
[01:13] <crimsun> cristiano: however, you can wrap it to use alsa if you install 'alsa-oss' from universe
[01:13] <cristiano> i had alsa-oss installed
[01:14] <cristiano> i have
[01:14] <crimsun> cristiano: then use ``aoss realplay''
[01:14] <cristiano> thx crimsun again :))))
[01:15] <crimsun> note that you can't play multiple sounds simultaneously via alsa for your usb device by default
[01:15] <crimsun> I'll consider enabling that for Edgy, but it needs to be tested
[01:15] <crimsun> in the meantime, you can use the plug:dmix:1 alsa device for playback
[01:15] <Burne> Hello, linux forum at http://www.idpz.net/tomytom/forum_index.php
[01:15] <cristiano> yeah i know this. hope someday it will possible on linux using Teamspeak2 and a game at the same time for nice multiplayer time :)
[01:16] <crimsun> cristiano: you can already, but the hacks are gross.
[01:16] <gatekeeper> crimsun: are you a (k)ubuntu developer?
[01:16] <crimsun> gatekeeper: yes.
[01:16] <cristiano> plug:dmix;1 ?!? how to do so?
[01:17] <crimsun> cristiano: e.g., ``aplay -Dplug:dmix:1 /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav''
[01:17] <gatekeeper> crimsun: cool :-) is there a way to do rolebacks in (k)ubuntu/linux?
[01:17] <cristiano> ah crimsun understood
[01:17] <oomph> crimson i added that repo and still get the error
[01:17] <crimsun> gatekeeper: as in a snapshot revert? Not by default, and not readily.
[01:17] <crimsun> oomph: did you update after adding it?
[01:17] <oomph> yes
[01:18] <oomph> when i do apt-get upgrade afterwards i get the following
[01:18] <oomph>   cedega-small: Depends: python-glade2 but it is not installed
[01:18] <crimsun> oomph: apt-cache policy python2.4-glade2|grep 500
[01:19] <oomph>  500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[01:19] <oomph>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[01:19] <crimsun> oomph: please pastebin the output from ``sudo apt-get install python2.4-glade2''
[01:19] <crimsun> ->phone
[01:19] <oomph> ok
[01:20] <oomph> !pastebin
[01:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:20] <gatekeeper> crimsun: OK well given the mess that some users seem to be able to get themselves into I personally think that should be a number 1 priority when installing either an upgraded GUI, graphics drivers etc, anything that can really hose your system. May be I should lend a hand, done lots of windows c++ but not linux yet :-)
[01:21] <cristiano> crimsun: i see that even firefox plugins (flash, for video and so on) seems still using onboard sound instead of headset, i can do "aoss firefox" to solve it?
[01:21] <crimsun> gatekeeper: your contributions would be welcome
[01:21] <crimsun> cristiano: yes
[01:22] <kakalto> how do I get the k7 kernel to work?
[01:22] <cristiano> crimsun thx :) time to have lunch here, thx a lot for ur help :D
[01:22] <crimsun> kakalto: have you installed linux-k7 ?
[01:22] <kakalto> crimsun: of course.
[01:22] <kakalto> when it gets to "decompressing kernel"(or whatever it says right at the start of bootup", it freezes
[01:23] <kakalto> *)
[01:23] <gatekeeper> crimsun: thanks :-)
[01:24] <oomph> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17614
[01:25] <kakalto> "OK, booting kernel" I think it says
[01:26] <rlj> where is the apt lock file stored? my comp crashed while in adept so i had to reboot it and the lock didn't go away automatically
[01:27] <crimsun> kakalto: have you chosen the recovery option?
[01:28] <oomph> crimsun did you read it?
[01:28] <kakalto> crimsun: of k7?
[01:28] <kakalto> or the -386 kernel?
[01:28] <crimsun> oomph: / kakalto: I'm on the phone, sec
[01:28] <oomph> k np
[01:28] <kakalto> kk
[01:28] <crimsun> kakalto: of -k7
[01:29] <kakalto> not yet, no
[01:29] <kakalto> clarification: k7 is athlon. k8 is athlon-64?
[01:29] <crimsun> kakalto: please do so. It disables the usplash screen and is more verbose, which should help in debugging.
[01:29] <crimsun> kakalto: yes
[01:29] <kakalto> good.
[01:29] <kakalto> okay, I'll do that.
[01:30] <kakalto> will just see if I can get any more quick ideas out of #ubuntu
[01:30] <gatekeeper> rlj: think this might do the trick: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:31] <crimsun> oomph: have you tried ``sudo apt-get -f install''?
[01:31] <sensei> Using the -k7 kernel made my wireless not work anymore :'(
[01:31] <oomph> no i have not
[01:31] <oomph> should i?
[01:31] <kakalto> sensei, that should be fixable.
[01:32] <sensei> kakalto: Most likely it is ;)
[01:33] <kakalto> although you might have to roll your own, not sure.
[01:33] <kakalto> anyways, I'll be back soon, hopefully.
[01:33] <kakalto> with a more verbose output.
[01:33] <oomph> crimsun: that does not work
[01:34] <oomph> im using this source list http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0
[01:35] <crimsun> oomph: what is the error it returns?
[01:35] <oomph> http://natsci.eckerd.edu/~bordelsr/configs/sources.list
[01:35] <oomph> unmet dependancies
[01:37] <crimsun> that's kinda vague
[01:37] <oomph> ill use pastebin
[01:37] <oomph> !pastebin
[01:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:37] <gatekeeper> oomph: is python-glade2 in your package list?
[01:38] <oomph> how do i find out?
[01:38] <oomph> apt-cache search?
[01:39] <oomph> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17616
[01:40] <crimsun> oomph: I need the output from ``apt-get install python-glade2''
[01:40] <root_> how do i start the user administration from termina ?
[01:40] <root_> *terminal
[01:41] <rlj> crash again :/
[01:41] <gatekeeper> rlj: adept?
[01:41] <oomph> -glade2
[01:42] <rlj> the --configure -a was not very useful since it tried to resume the install of libdvdcss2 which crashes the machine...
[01:42] <rlj> i just want to clean out all partially installed packages
[01:42] <rlj> and lockfiles
[01:42] <rlj> :)
[01:42] <oomph> crimsun when i do an apt-carch search they both show up
[01:43] <crimsun> oomph: please, what I typed above
[01:43] <crimsun> I'm short on time this morning
[01:43] <oomph> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:43] <oomph>   cedega-small: Depends: python-glade2 but it is not going to be installed
[01:43] <oomph> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[01:43] <rlj> so my /var/cache/apt is pretty empty 2 .bin files in there (and empty archives and archives/partial dirs)
[01:44] <oomph> that is what i get
[01:44] <crimsun> oomph: ok, I need apt-cache policy python-glade2 python2.4-glade2
[01:45] <gatekeeper> rlj: I use synaptic myself which will give you a list of broken pacakages which you can the uninstall
[01:45] <kakalto> hey
[01:45] <oomph> crimsun
[01:46] <oomph> i solved the problem
[01:46] <crimsun> excellent
[01:46] <kakalto> would my k7 kernel be not booting, due to problems detecting a keyboard?
[01:46] <oomph> apt-get remove cedega-small
[01:46] <oomph> and then apt-get install the dependancies
[01:46] <oomph> such as python
[01:47] <oomph> thank you for your assistance
[01:47] <crimsun> kakalto: that's pretty unlikely, but I can't say it's impossible
[01:47] <kakalto> crimsun: you see, I have a wireless kb/mouse combo, which plug into 1 USB slot
[01:47] <kakalto> for the both
[01:48] <kakalto> and although it doesn't directly say in the output "KEYBOARD ERROR", it stops around where it's talking about mouse and keyboard and other input devices
[01:48] <crimsun> kakalto: does it boot with them unplugged?
[01:48] <kakalto> uhm dunno, haven't tried.
[01:48] <kakalto> I have a cat on my lap, would rather not move =p
[01:49] <kakalto> the interesting thing is that it boots with the 386 kernel fine, but not the k7
[01:50] <crimsun> odd, then.
[01:50] <crimsun> with 2.6.15-25.43?
[01:50] <kakalto> I thought that the k7 kernel would have exactly same configuration apart from processor type, and the fact it was compiled on a k7
[01:50] <kakalto> uhm
[01:50] <kakalto> sounds about right
[01:50] <crimsun> ``uname -r''
[01:50] <kakalto> dunno about the .43 part, but it's 2.6.15-25
[01:50] <gatekeeper> rlj: you could do apt-get check followed by apt-get remove <broken pacakage>
[01:51] <crimsun> right, that's the only 25 we've released
[01:51] <kakalto> and doesn't  ``uname -r'' just show the current kernel?
[01:51] <crimsun> kakalto: yes
[01:51] <kakalto> I'm running off the 386 kernel, not k7
[01:51] <crimsun> I figured as much, since you reported -k7 doesn't finish booting ;)
[01:51] <kakalto> should I try installing the 2.6.15-23-k7 kernel?
[01:52] <kakalto> hehe.
[01:52] <crimsun> you could try it, but I wouldn't expect different results
[01:52] <kakalto> =/
[01:52] <crimsun> I need to scoot, though
[01:52] <kakalto> hmm k then
[01:52] <kakalto> seeya
[01:59] <rlj> so
[02:00] <rlj> i tried apt-get --remove libdvdcss2 and that crashed the comp in similar way
[02:00] <rlj> i get a constant hard drive activity (at least the led) and no responsiveness
[02:00] <kakalto> =/
[02:00] <rlj> i booted a livecd and did a reiserfsck but it found nothing
[02:01] <rlj> so, are there more files i can delete to convince apt that libdvdcss is either not partially installed (if that is in fact what it thinks) or not installed at all (even if it is)?
[02:02] <rlj> aptitude suggests me to do dpkg --configure -a as well
[02:04] <rlj> is it unsafe to merely delete some files in /var/lib/dpkg?
[02:05] <rlj> to make apt think libdvdcss2 is not unpacked but not configured. and thus uninstalled. and then try to install (overwriting any existing files)
[02:06] <Prakti> lo guys,....
[02:07] <kakalto> hallo.
[02:07] <Prakti> does anbody have a suggestions which system-service might be always rewriting my resolv.conf on startup.
[02:07] <kakalto> rlj: I don't think it's a good idea
[02:07] <Prakti> I'm becoming slightly mad because of this.
[02:07] <imbrandon> Prakti, dhcp ?
[02:08] <rlj> right
[02:08] <rlj> so
[02:08] <rlj> i'll open a few consoles beforehand with top in and such
[02:08] <Prakti> imbrandon: I don't have any running inside my network.
[02:08] <rlj> and attempt another dpkg --configure -a
[02:08] <rlj> which will most certainly hang the machine
[02:08] <imbrandon> Prakti, the dhcp client service
[02:08] <kakalto> rlj: one possibility is to back up all files you delete, I think
[02:08] <rlj> i hate there is no ctrl-alt-f12 dmesg-thingy in kubuntu
[02:09] <rlj> is there a program to print all new additions to a file? tail isn't it?
[02:09] <Prakti> imbrandon: so the dhcp-client services fetches the data from some cache.
[02:09] <rlj> to use in conjunction with dmesg
[02:09] <sensei> rlj: Yes
[02:09] <imbrandon> rlj, tail -f /var/log/messages
[02:09] <rlj> imbrandon: thanks
[02:10] <sensei>  or /var/log/dmesg since you asked for dmesg :)
[02:10] <rlj> ok, here we go
[02:11] <rlj> see you all in a bit after my next reboot :/
[02:11] <rlj> hm eerr
[02:12] <rlj> well, after all my nice preparations this time (the tail, a top, a root console, all squeezed in on the screen), dpkg --configure -a just worked. took a half second at the most..
[02:12] <rlj> that's truly odd
[02:12] <rlj> ok, so let's fire up adept and remove libdvdcss2 completely to be sure first
[02:12] <rlj> then use the script from libdvdread3 to fetch it
[02:13] <rlj> so btw, why is there a libdvdcss2 package in apt (dunno what repository it came from) if the ubuntu howto says you should use the script from libdvdread3 to get it?
[02:17] <rlj_> argh :(
[02:17] <rlj_> turns out after all, there might be drive problems
[02:18] <rlj_> when attempting to remove libdvdcss2, the kernel log spews out some /dev/hda errors :/
[02:18] <rlj_> can reiserfs handle bad blocks?
[02:18] <rlj_> and if so, how do i make the scan and mark them?
[02:19] <kakalto> rlj_: if you're having issues getting no answers, I'd suggest asking in #ubuntu
[02:19] <kakalto> =)
[02:20] <rlj_> yeah
[02:20] <rlj_> or asking google :)
[02:20] <asimon> rlj_: There is a commandline tool called "badblocks" which can scan for bad blocks. But I never had to used it.
[02:20] <rlj_> i know
[02:20] <rlj_> but i think it's supposed to be invoked from fsck
[02:21] <rlj_> to make sure the data is applied correctly to the fs structure
[02:21] <Dunedan> I rebooted my pc and got an "kernel panic - not syncing: vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,3)". Does anybody know what I can do to fix that?
[02:21] <Dunedan> filesystem is ext3
[02:22] <thyko> i just installed kubuntu
[02:22] <thyko> is it advisable for me to use the backports repository?
[02:23] <asimon> thyko: If you want some of the stuff there then yes. :-It's save to use.
[02:24] <thyko> how about universe?
[02:24] <thyko> its just that the warnings on apt/sources.lst freaked me out abit
[02:25] <alexis__> there is a special chann to speak about free radeon driver (prob with radeon 9200 card)
[02:25] <asimon> thyko: Universe contains packages which are supported by the "community". I think nearly everyone uses it because there is some handy stuff in there.
[02:25] <dromen> back !
[02:25] <overdrive> hi
[02:26] <overdrive> how can i install xf86-video-ati-6.5.7.3.ebuild?
[02:26] <overdrive> any guide?
[02:26] <thyko> hmmm ...
[02:26] <overdrive> I don't know hot to install *.build files
[02:26] <thyko> thanks for the advice asimon
[02:26] <overdrive> I don't know hot to install *.ebuild files (sorry)
[02:26] <slow-motion> bye
[02:27] <alexis__> cd...
[02:27] <alexis__> sh ./xf86...build
[02:27] <alexis__>  ?
[02:27] <alexis__> sudo sh ./xf86..build
[02:27] <abattoir_> afaik, ebuilds are gentoo packages, and are not meant to be installed in debian based systems...
[02:27] <asimon> rlj_: AFAIK If you have bad blocks the hard drive will relocate them automatically if you try to overwrite them. Maybe the harddrive tools of your drive's manufacturer can be of help, like for example seatools for Seagate drives, etc.
[02:28] <alexis__> k
[02:28] <abattoir_> overdrive: if you cant find .deb packages, and dont want to/cant compile manually, i'd suggest using alien
[02:28] <abattoir_> !info alien
[02:28] <ubotu> alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In repository main, is optional. Version 8.64 (dapper), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[02:29] <Prakti> overdrive: /j #gentoo
[02:30] <alessandro> Hello friends!
[02:30] <rlj_> i will run badblocks nevertheless and see what it says..
[02:31] <asimon> rlj_: Yes, it shouldn't hurt
[02:37] <rlj_> asimon, running now (badblocks -b 4096 /dev/hda5 | tee output) from livecd
[02:39] <asimon> rlj_: Good luck ;-)
[02:40] <sensei> lol.. knubbe.. nice nick :)
[02:40] <asimon> rlj_: I once had a seagate drive with bad blocks. Back then I run the full scan&reapir with the seagate tools floppy, which did relocate some bad blocks. Afterwards the ext2 filesystem was corrupted but fsck could fix it. That old drive still works in my mother's computer.
[02:40] <overdrive> mmm
[02:40] <overdrive>  ok
[02:41] <overdrive> thx
[02:43] <rlj_> asimon, don't remember what manufacturer the drive is
[02:43] <rlj_> think it might be toshiba
[02:46] <overdrive> abattoir_: I've install alien. and i tried this:
[02:46] <overdrive> overdrive@over-machine:~/Desktop$ sudo alien xf86-video-ati-6.5.7.3.ebuild
[02:46] <overdrive> Unknown type of package, xf86-video-ati-6.5.7.3.ebuild.
[02:48] <overdrive> any suggestion?
[02:48] <kubuntuneuling> hi
[02:49] <kubuntuneuling> is there an easy-to-use qt/kde frontend for dm-crypt / luks?
[02:51] <abattoir_> overdrive: i'm not sure about the package types supported by alien, i'll check that out, but can you try 'sudo alien -d <package>'?
[02:51] <overdrive> overdrive@over-machine:~/Desktop$ sudo alien xf86-video-ati-6.5.7.3.ebuild
[02:51] <overdrive> Unknown type of package, xf86-video-ati-6.5.7.3.ebuild.
[02:52] <overdrive> -d is the default
[02:52] <abattoir_> overdrive: with a -d? and couldnt you find another type of package?
[02:52] <overdrive> overdrive@over-machine:~/Desktop$ sudo alien -d xf86-video-ati-6.5.7.3.ebuild
[02:52] <overdrive> Unknown type of package, xf86-video-ati-6.5.7.3.ebuild.
[02:52] <overdrive> i'll search
[02:53] <overdrive> It's the only driver who works with my ati9100 I think
[02:53] <sensei> Isn't ebuilds just a set of instructions? Much like FreeBSD's ports?
[02:53] <overdrive> I wan't support opengl
[02:53] <sensei> Not actually containing any package data? Or am I mixing them up with something else?
[02:55] <abattoir_> overdrive: hmm just found out what sensei said is right, ebuilds are not binaries(like rpm/deb) but a set of scripts which compile the package....
[02:56] <overdrive> okay
[02:57] <overdrive> this is the only one source http://gentoo-portage.com/x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati
[02:57] <overdrive> and it's a gentoo portal
[02:57] <overdrive> :(
[02:57] <abattoir_> overdrive: i dont know much about ati drivers, but what about fglrx
[02:57] <abattoir_> ?
[02:58] <abattoir_> !ati
[02:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:58] <abattoir_> !fglrx
[02:58] <sensei> abattoir_: Doesn't the ebuild file contain a URL to the sofware?
[02:58] <overdrive> I tried fglrx, but ati9100 don't works
[02:59] <sensei> If it doesn't, I'll smack the gentoo devs on their heads
[02:59] <abattoir_> sensei: i dont know... overdrive is the one with the ebuild.
[02:59] <sensei> Ah, of course :)
[03:00] <overdrive> abattoir_: It Doesn't
[03:01] <overdrive> anyway ,,,I will buy a new nvidia. This rubbish ati sucks
[03:01] <sensei> http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/individual/driver/xf86-video-ati-6.6.1.tar.bz2
[03:02] <sensei> That's for xorg 7.1
[03:02] <overdrive> sensei: thx
[03:02] <sensei> Don't thank me, thank 0.8 seconds on google
[03:03] <overdrive> I'll search 6.5.7.3
[03:03] <overdrive> but I try this wnyway
[03:08] <omeow> Hm, has any of you ever opened an MX510 before?
[03:19] <james14> Is this the appropriate channel to ask about Amarok on Dapper?
[03:21] <ccc_> james14: here, or if it's amarok specific, at #amarok
[03:21] <james14> Thank you
[03:23] <thyko> how do i install gcc?
[03:23] <thyko> from the command line?
[03:24] <larson9999> sudo apt-get install gcc
[03:24] <gatekeeper> thyko: apt-get install <package name>
[03:24] <gnomefreak> thyko: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:24] <larson9999> there you go
[03:24] <thyko> thanks
[03:24] <larson9999> i always have the wrong answer
[03:25] <gatekeeper> larson9999: to quick with your keyboad :-)
[03:26] <larson9999> gatekeeper: too slow with my brain
[03:27] <thyko> its telling me there is no install canditade :(
[03:27] <larson9999> i suppose i'll have to deal with that at least until brain transplants are perfected
[03:27] <thyko> its kubuntu 6.06
[03:27] <thyko> drapper
[03:28] <gatekeeper> thyko: need this by any chance? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[03:30] <gatekeeper> a bit quiet in here and manic in #ubuntu
[03:32] <klerfayt> I used kwriteconfig to enable smoothscrolling in kde - still no change
[03:33] <larson9999>  i've seen quite a few people talk about smooth scrolling in kde.  what does that mean?  scroll bars in apps scrolling smoothly?
[03:34] <klerfayt> larson9999: it should be same as smooth scrolling in firefox
[03:35] <larson9999> klerfayt: hmmm, scrolling seems smooth enough here and i didn't ask for it.
[03:35] <asimon> klerfayt: AFAIK KDE normaly has no smoothscroll feature. It's only in SUSE Linux, which patched KDE for this feature.
[03:35] <larson9999> maybe my smooth scrolling standards are low
[03:35] <yoescribo_> good morning, everyone
[03:36] <klerfayt> asimon: are you sure? it can be enabled with command  kwriteconfig --key SmoothScrolling --type bool true
[03:36] <asimon> klerfayt: I am not sure.  ;-)
[03:36] <klerfayt> asimon: but for some reason I don't see the difference (it worked in suse)
[03:38] <thyko> wow!
[03:38] <thyko> i cant even install firefox!
[03:39] <klerfayt> thyko: apt-cache search firefox
[03:39] <thyko> and i find firefox
[03:40] <thyko> then when i try to install it
[03:40] <thyko> i get this:
[03:40] <thyko> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:40] <thyko>   firefox: Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0) but it is not installable
[03:40] <thyko>            Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0) but it is not installable
[03:40] <thyko>            Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.12.2) but it is not installable
[03:43] <brainkilla> I installed kde 3.5.3 on top of my ubuntu install
[03:43] <brainkilla> but I've got some kcontrol modules missing
[03:44] <brainkilla> the display related one, for example
[03:44] <brainkilla> cannot change resolution, set dpms, etc/
[03:45] <brainkilla> does anyone know which package I should install?
[03:46] <JP_PIALASSE> hello
[03:47] <ahmet_>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:47] <asimon> brainkilla: The display config tool is part of kde-guidance, which should be automatically there if you have kubuntu-desktop installed.
[03:47] <brainkilla> ah, that's the info I need asimon
[03:47] <JP_PIALASSE> is this possible on kde to have a different application list (i don't know the name in english)  for each desktop view
[03:47] <brainkilla> thanks
[03:47] <brainkilla> since I didn't install kubuntu-desktop
[03:48] <yoescribo_> hello, i have a problem with the sound in my VIA 8235 card. Yesterday it worked perfect, but i have installed xmms and mplayer and today, there is no sound in the entire system!, what must i do?
[03:48] <brainkilla> it depended on some packages I really didn't want
[03:48] <asimon> brainkilla: Yes, then kde-guidance is the package you want.
[03:49] <brainkilla> thank you, you're the man ;)
[03:49] <asimon> JP_PIALASSE: do you mean the tasklist which shows your open applications? Right-click on the panel -> Configure Panel...->Taskbar-> uncheck "Show windows from all desktops".
[03:49] <JP_PIALASSE> so is this possible if you are on the desktop view 1 not to see what 's running on the desktop 2,3,and 4
[03:50] <yoescribo_> anyone can help me with that please?
[03:50] <JP_PIALASSE> asimon> exactly what i want
[03:50] <JP_PIALASSE> asimon> thank you so much
[03:51] <ahmet_> yoescribo
[03:51] <ahmet_> one secont
[03:51] <yoescribo_> thanks
[03:51] <yoescribo_> ill wait
[03:52] <ahmet_>  sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
[03:52] <ahmet_> and
[03:53] <ahmet_>  sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse libxine-extracodecs ffmpeg lame faad sox mjpegtools
[03:53] <ahmet_> and
[03:54] <ahmet_>  sudo apt-get install libxine-main1 gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mpegdemux gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
[03:54] <ahmet_> ok ?
[03:54] <yoescribo_> wow, its a long list, but why it worked yesterday?
[03:55] <ahmet_> yes long list
[03:55] <ahmet_> but
[03:55] <ahmet_> this is list
[03:56] <yoescribo_> ok, ill install them
[03:56] <ahmet_> ok
[03:56] <ahmet_> heyy yoescribo
[03:57] <Bassetts> are there any good sites about customizing KDE?
[03:57] <omeow> http://kde-look.org/
[03:57] <Bassetts> to make it easier to work with, looks nicer etc
[03:57] <asimon> Bassetts: http://www.kde-look.org/
[03:57] <omeow> http://kde-apps.org/
[03:57] <Bassetts> any guides or such?
[03:57] <omeow> On the site.
[03:58] <Bassetts> kde look?
[03:59] <yoescribo_> ahmet_: faad and libxine don't appear in adept. i checked the repositories but all of then where uncommented
[04:01] <barktpolar> Question about Shipit
[04:02] <barktpolar> If you order CDs on a Sunday do they come on saturday?
[04:02] <thyko> something is wrong
[04:02] <thyko> there are too many broken packages on drapper
[04:02] <thyko> anyone else seen the same problem?
[04:03] <visik7> anyone know if there's a package for tasty menu ?
[04:04] <asimon> thyko: depends on your definition of "too many". ;-) I know of some broken packages in universe, like the SQL navigator or the googlefs tool.
[04:04] <yoescribo_> ahmet_: adept show me gstreamer bad but not bad multiverse, and faad and extracodecs are missing
[04:04] <asimon> barktpolar: usually it takes a couple of weeks until your CDs arrive.
[04:04] <yoescribo_> the rest is there. should i proceed with the installation?
[04:05] <thyko> its like all the packages are broken!
[04:05] <thyko> asimon: i cant even install autoconf
[04:06] <asimon> yoescribo_: if those packages are missing you are probably haven't enabled the multiverse repository. See here for how to enable it:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[04:08] <asimon> thyko: no, this is not normal. Maybe there is something wrong with your /etc/apt/sources.lst, some bad entries, or mixing Dapper and Breezy or something like that.
[04:08] <yoescribo_> yeah, ive already consider that. but in adept all the repositories are uncommented. multiverse is co.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[04:08] <yoescribo_> right?
[04:08] <asimon> yoescribo_: Did you update the package list after enabling the multiverse repo?
[04:09] <thyko> here is how my sources.list looks like: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Sk1eW021.html
[04:09] <yoescribo_> yeah sir
[04:09] <yoescribo_> hehe
[04:09] <thyko> i really dont know what the problem is
[04:10] <asimon> thyko: Remove the # in lines 2 and 9.
[04:10] <yoescribo_> ive checked again, update all the repositories and everything is the same.
[04:11] <asimon> thyko: you have disabled the main and restricted repositores which contain all the essential packages, including those which fail to install for you.
[04:11] <yoescribo_> extracodecs, faad and bad multiverse are missing
[04:13] <yoescribo_> asimon: this is weird?
[04:14] <yoescribo_> ahmet_: what must i do now?
[04:14] <__osh___> How come a aptitude purge apache2 leaves stuff in /etc/apace2? Isn't that a bug?
[04:16] <asimon> yoescribo_: Are you sure you have a "deb"-line in /etc/apt/sources.list with multiverse?
[04:16] <asimon> __osh___: If the stuff which is still there is not from some other package I would say it's a bug.
[04:17] <thyko> asimon: :O ooh!
[04:17] <thyko> thanks a million!
[04:18] <asimon> thyko: no problem, the comments in your sources.list say that the server failed to verify when you installed. Maybe the sever was down by that time, or something. It shouldn't happen.
[04:18] <__osh___> asimon: hmm, apparently they belong to apache2-common, but purging that still won't remove the config files.
[04:18] <thyko> i must be tired or something
[04:18] <__osh___> asimon: it removed a lot more this time though.
[04:18] <thyko> asimon: i was not connected to the internet at the time
[04:18] <thyko> and i'm relatively new to debian
[04:19] <asimon> __osh___: As I understand it purge should remove all config files, log files, etc. If it leaves something back, I would say it's  a bug.
[04:19] <yoescribo_> asimon:
[04:19] <yoescribo_> deb http://co.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:19] <yoescribo_> deb-src http://co.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:19] <yoescribo_> thats my sources.list
[04:19] <asimon> thyko: Well, I wasn't connected too when I installed, but didn't had this problem. Somehting was fishy, I dunno what.
[04:19] <__osh___> asimon: that was my understanding too. but apparently it leaves stuff there because I've changed it. (I think).
[04:20] <asimon> __osh___: Hmm, I for example changed my dovecot.conf file, but when I purge dovecot it gets removed.
[04:21] <__osh___> asimon: odd. I'll do some more testing here and perhaps I'll report it later
[04:21] <asimon> yoescribo_: Yes, these line enable the multiverse component for dapper-backports. You should have identical lines with dapper instead of dapper-backports.
[04:22] <yoescribo_> asimon: this ones?
[04:22] <yoescribo_> deb http://co.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[04:22] <yoescribo_> deb-src http://co.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[04:23] <asimon> yoescribo_: Yes, add to those two lines multiverse at the end and you have it.
[04:23] <asimon> I really wish they would just enable universe and multiverse by default. Everyone will add them anyway...
[04:23] <yoescribo_> asimon: should i have to add "multiverse" or create two new lines?
[04:24] <asimon> yoescribo_: No, just add them at the end. That's fine.
[04:24] <yoescribo_> ok, i'm doign it...
[04:24] <asimon> yoescribo_: This can also be done somehow with adept but I dunno how, I am usually use the command line.
[04:25] <cox377_> does anyone here use XMMS?
[04:25] <asimon> yoescribo_: BTW, if your sound worked yesterday but not today, it could maybe some changed mixer setting. Did you already looked in the mixer if there is something muted?
[04:27] <__osh___> Why is apt-get (aptitude) so verbose? Is there a more elegant way to remove packages than this line:dpkg -l | cut -d\  -f3  | grep apache2 | sudo xargs aptitude -y purge
[04:28] <thyko> asimon: actually it displayed an error box that it couldnt connect. You on dapper too?
[04:28] <yoescribo_> asimon: cli is fine, hehehe
[04:29] <thyko> mybe its a feature they added
[04:29] <thyko> __shrug__
[04:29] <asimon> thyko: Sound which doesn't work would be a bad feature...
[04:30] <thyko> yeah
[04:30] <asimon> __osh___: I think aptitude can also use patterns, but I dunno what the syntax is.
[04:31] <__osh___> asimon: so, read a bit more about aptitude for me then.
[04:33] <__osh___> asimon: I mean that I'll have to read some more about aptitude, not you. Sorry if that came out wrong.
[04:35] <asimon> __osh___: Maybe something like aptitude purge ~napache2 , you could read about search patterns yourself in /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README
[04:36] <__osh___> asimon: yes, I will. As I said, I didn't mean to be rude. English is not my native tounge so sometimes I slip up.
[04:37] <asimon> __osh___: no problem
[04:39] <yoescribo_> asimon: you were right, it worked! (with the packages i mean, not the sound)
[04:40] <thyko> asimon: do you use this sources.list? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[04:40] <apokryphos> better to use:
[04:40] <apokryphos> !repos
[04:41] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:41] <yoescribo_> asimon: now, i still have no sound
[04:42] <asimon> yoescribo_: Here is an other one with sound problems, but sadly no solution: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207105
[04:43] <asimon> thyko: I don't use the PLF repository but the other ones. So far I never had need for the PLF stuff.
[04:43] <yoescribo_> asimon: what bothers me most, is that the sound worked well yesterday. Actually, in the live CD works fine too.
[04:44] <asimon> yoescribo_: The guy in the form could only get his sound back by turning off this computer and restarting... Sounds like some broken kernel driver for this specific sound chip.
[04:46] <MidMark> libvisual will be in main in edgy?
[04:46] <MidMark> amarok 1.4.1 have them disabled for dapper
[04:46] <MidMark> :(
[04:47] <asimon> MidMark: Yes, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportlibvisual
[04:47] <MidMark> great!
[04:48] <yoescribo_> asimon: i see, i tried that, but ididnt work. maybe if i restarted now... should i?
[04:48] <oomph> i'm liking kanotix :P
[04:50] <asimon> yoescribo_: If you search in the forum for "VIA 8235" you will find more threads where people have problems with sound. Maybe something in these threads will help you. I dunno.
[04:50] <yoescribo_> asimon: thanks man, you was very helpful. Thanks for everything
[04:50] <thyko> is there a list of package group install commands like 'build-essential'?
[04:50] <yoescribo_> asimon: bye
[04:51] <asimon> thyko: Not that I know of, but such a list would sometimes definitely be helpful.
[04:51] <thyko> yeah, no kidding
[04:52] <gatekeeper> anyone know how to get ubuntu version number from cli?
[04:53] <dr_willis> gatekeeper,  i was thinking the message of the day - showed it.
[04:53] <dr_willis> trt motd
[04:53] <asimon> gatekeeper: grep RELEASE /etc/lsb-release |cut -b 17-
[04:53] <dr_willis> try 'motd'
[04:54] <dr_willis> heh. :)
[04:54] <gatekeeper> asimon: thanx
[04:55] <dr_willis> heh - my file server is running 5.10
[04:56] <asimon> dr_willis: As long as it's still running ... :-)
[04:56] <dr_willis> yep..
[04:56] <dr_willis> for all my samba file serving needs.
[04:56] <dr_willis> got like 6 hard drives in it  :)
[04:57] <asimon> dr_willis: no need to upgrade as long as there are still security fixes for 5.10
[04:57] <dr_willis> had over a month of uptime on it.. then we had a power failure
[04:57] <dr_willis> security fix's for the stuff i proberly dont even have on the machine. :)
[04:58] <asimon> dr_willis: Who knows, someone could find some nasty security issue with samba next week ... ;-)
[04:59] <dr_willis> of course my file server is serving my 2 other pcs on my home lan. :P
[04:59] <dr_willis> so its not really accessable at all.. unles smy wife haxors me
[04:59] <asimon> dr_willis: which is always a possibility, hehe.
[05:01] <dr_willis> My wife is a leet haxor Chick!
[05:01] <dr_willis> I am vnc'ed to her machine now.. :P
[05:01] <dr_willis> using the speach synthizer under windows - and haveing thepc talk dirty to her as she sleeps..
[05:01] <dr_willis> Subliminal!
[05:02] <sensei> I'm speachless.. I can't even begin to imagine how special she must feel
[05:02] <Bizzeh> hey
[05:02] <Bizzeh> i have 2 sound cards in my pc
[05:02] <Bizzeh> how would i make kubuntu use the right one?
[05:03] <FortMa1> gatekeeper: try `cat /etc/issue`
[05:03] <dr_willis> heh,,
[05:04] <dr_willis> Hmm.. her machine has a AMD Anthlon XP   2400+  what should the actual mhz of the processor be?
[05:04] <FortMa1> gatekeeper: or `cat /proc/version`
[05:04] <dr_willis> Her bios got reset.. i think it may be running slower then it camn do.
[05:04] <gatekeeper> FortMa1: thanx
[05:04] <dr_willis> cpu-z is showing 1500mhz right now.
[05:05] <sensei> That's probably speed stepping
[05:05] <sensei> Put it under load and see what it runs at
[05:05] <dr_willis> I dont think its speed stepping.. its a rather old amd cpu.
[05:06] <sensei> 2400 can most certainly do ss
[05:06] <dr_willis> let me trackj down that speedstep tool for amd :P
[05:06] <dr_willis> that way i can tell it to go 100%
[05:06] <sensei> Why would you want that if it's speed stepping? o.O
[05:06] <dr_willis> cpu-z gave me a lot of good info. :P  id frogotten how handy.
[05:06] <dr_willis> I THINK her bios is set to the defaults which is limiting the speed.
[05:07] <asimon> dr_willis: Athlon XP 2400+ has normaly 2GHz. But if you want to be sure, check on amd's web site, they must have the specs somewhere there.
[05:07] <Bizzeh> how would i make alsa use my audigy instead of my onboard nforce?
[05:08] <dr_willis> yea - i just noticed its at the same speed as my real old box.. and then i rembered how the bios likes to 'reset to defaults' if  it fails to boot during the post.
[05:08] <yoescribo> asimon: hey again, problem solved
[05:09] <yoescribo> and is so stupid, i could kill myself
[05:09] <asimon> yoescribo: What was it?
[05:10] <hugelmopf> Bizzeh: unfortunately there does not seem to be a graphical interface for this in KDE yet. you might have to play with alsa's configuration file directly?
[05:10] <yoescribo> i have winXP in the same machine (is a laptop) when i boot into windows i found the sound muted (with the hardware), then i unmuted and finally, i have sound in kubuntu
[05:11] <Bizzeh> hugelmopf: no clue how to do
[05:11] <yoescribo> asimon: so thank you, and well se each other later
[05:12] <yoescribo> asimon: bye!!!
[05:12] <hugelmopf> Bizzeh: i am no expert in this, because i have only one sound card, but a first step would be, to check if both cards have been found: on the command line "cat /proc/asound/cards"
[05:13] <Bizzeh> yep
[05:13] <Bizzeh> i know that they are both there, i already figured that out
[05:15] <hugelmopf> Bizzeh: i'm googling right now if i can find some information for you.
[05:15] <cox377> can someone please tell me how i can mount windows share drives to my kubuntu box, i dont wanna have to download everything before i open it. I just wanna be able to stream etc. this is things stored on a windows box that i wanna open on my kubuntu
[05:15] <Stardog> what kind of page youguys use, when installing things on kubuntu?
[05:15] <hugelmopf> cox377: if you are on kubuntu, have you tried entering "smb:/" in konquerors address bar?
[05:15] <Stardog> i mean a kind of "howTO" pake
[05:16] <Stardog> page
[05:16] <deep> Hello there.
[05:16] <asimon> Bizzeh: You could also try to disable the onboard sound in the bios. That was what I've done. That was Linux never sees the onboard sound chip and only uses the sound card.
[05:17] <Bizzeh> asimon: yeah, was thinking that
[05:17] <cox377> hugelmopf: yeh, i can view all the files like it's a local folder, until i want to open something. Instead of just opening the file like it say would do with a share drive on a windows machine it downloads it first. Basically i wanna stream media and otherfiles from a windows box
[05:18] <hugelmopf> cox377: samba is not a streaming protocol though, is it?
[05:18] <deep> Okay, question for you. I have a secondary hdd, 80 gig NTFS. And i want to format it. Witch filesystemtype is recommended? And is FAT32 buggy? I want to be able to be able to take the harddrive to a windows-cumputer later.
[05:19] <cox377> hugelmopf: I have no idea, but i'm sure it must be possible, a bit of a newbee.. but ...
[05:19] <hugelmopf> Bizzeh: you might have to look at the two command line tools "alsamixer" and "alsactl". how familiar are you with the command line?
[05:19] <hugelmopf> cox377: i don't think that it is possible (also not streaming from windows to windows)?
[05:19] <Bizzeh> alsamixer im good with, was trying to figure out alsactl, but didnt know which card was numbered as what
[05:20] <sensei> cat /proc/asound/cards
[05:20] <asimon> deep: One option is to just use the good ext3 fs and then use some of the free tools under Windows to read ext2 filesystems.
[05:20] <hugelmopf> Bizzeh: i'm sorry that i can't help you with details. have you looked at "man alsamixer" and "man alsactl"?
[05:20] <cox377> i can stream from (windows to windows) From (linux to windows) just not (windows to linux)
[05:21] <cox377> or
[05:21] <cox377> (linux to linux)
[05:21] <Bizzeh> i think im just gonna shut off the nforce card in the bios
[05:21] <deep> asimon: ThanQ. Ill go for that one, and ill google that ext2 filesystem-reader. Bye bye everyone <3
[05:21] <Bizzeh> will stop all confusion then
[05:21] <hugelmopf> cox377: then it depends on the application, what it does with the half-finished "download", and not on the samba protocol itself, that's true.
[05:22] <cox377> hugelmopf: sorry mate, what do you mean. It's not application dependent because no matter what you do it asks you to download the file first
[05:23] <hugelmopf> cox377: then we are talking about different things. which kind of file are you trying to open?
[05:26] <cox377> anything, any file .avi .doc etc etc, which ever i want to open from the windows machine
[05:26] <cox377> the kubuntu machine tries to download it first, before it actually tries to open/play it
[05:26] <hugelmopf> cox377: so if you right-click on it, do you have an option "open with"?
[05:26] <cox377> yeh, and if you open it with your desired application it saves it first
[05:27] <Kwukki> is there a skype clone? Skype is buggy for me
[05:27] <Sunnyblizard> hey, i have a problemm
[05:27] <hugelmopf> cox377: that's not, what it does for me (of course in the background it saved it to a temp directory, but most KDE applications can handle smb:/ links "on the flight"). how do you notice that it saves it?
[05:27] <deep> In the fstab-file, what does the umask say about the mount? Is that the access-rights?
[05:28] <hugelmopf> Kwukki: you could have a look at wengo, there is a packages "wengophone" in the repositories.
[05:28] <Sunnyblizard> I can't open programms with a GUI from my comand line :/
[05:28] <hugelmopf> Sunnyblizard: what's the error?
[05:28] <Kwukki> hugelmopf : is it compatible with the skype network?
[05:28] <h3sp4wn> cox377: sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=tridge,password=foobar //fjall/test /data/test (then you won't to worry about it it will be transparant
[05:29] <hugelmopf> Kwukki: no, it's not. nothing is, because skype uses a closed protocol.
[05:29] <Sunnyblizard> in ' run command' it's possible, but in my console i get this error: konqueror: cannot connect to X server
[05:29] <hugelmopf> Sunnyblizard: are you trying to run it as root from the console?
[05:29] <Sunnyblizard> Yes
[05:29] <Kwukki> hugelmopf : Damn, but... msn is closed too, not?
[05:29] <Sunnyblizard> As root and as normall user it doesn't work
[05:30] <hugelmopf> Sunnyblizard: use "kdesu yourprogram" to run some GUI as root
[05:30] <cox377> cheers
[05:30] <cox377> shall give it a go
[05:30] <Bizzeh> in general, how many packets do you need to crack a 128bit wep pass (i forgot what i set mine as)?
[05:30] <|Twist> not much
[05:30] <|Twist> wep is fairly easy to crack
[05:31] <Sunnyblizard> bash: ksedu: command not found
[05:31] <tsdgeos> kdesu
[05:31] <cox377> h3sp4wn: is -t and -o the actual drives or do iu change em?
[05:31] <hugelmopf> Sunnyblizard: you misspelled it
[05:31] <Sunnyblizard> root@KevinKeene:~# kdesu konqueror
[05:31] <Sunnyblizard> kdesu: cannot connect to X server
[05:31] <hugelmopf> Sunnyblizard: you are on a root console?
[05:31] <Sunnyblizard> yes
[05:32] <hugelmopf> Sunnyblizard: that's not where you should be.
[05:32] <z00m_> hi all, does anyone know if wine will work on most windows pc games ?
[05:32] <Sunnyblizard> kevin@KevinKeene:/root$ kdesu konqueror
[05:32] <Sunnyblizard> kdesu: cannot connect to X server
[05:32] <Bizzeh> |Twist: am i looking at 100's or 1000's or more?
[05:32] <Sunnyblizard> it doesn't work either
[05:32] <hugelmopf> Sunnyblizard: do you have a x-session open?
[05:32] <|Twist> Bizzeh: I would say 1000's
[05:32] <h3sp4wn> cox377: //fjall/test - That is the windows path (with \\ changed to //) /data/test is where you want it to be mounted (can be anywhere just create the directory first)
[05:33] <|Twist> try use snort
[05:33] <Sunnyblizard> I don't know
[05:33] <Bizzeh> im using airsnort now
[05:33] <Sunnyblizard> but from command line i can open the files
[05:33] <|Twist> Good
[05:33] <hugelmopf> Sunnyblizard: have you logged into KDE or Gnome yet (entered your username/password at a graphical interface)?
[05:33] <Sunnyblizard> yes
[05:33] <cox377> h3sp4wn: and the user name and password i just enter my own?
[05:34] <h3sp4wn> cox377: The ones for the windows machine
[05:34] <sensei> Around 400k packets are a ballpark figure
[05:34] <cox377> there is no user/pass to connect to that machine
[05:34] <sensei> @ |Twist
[05:34] <z00m_> sensei: whats that for cracking wep ?
[05:35] <sensei> Yeah
[05:35] <h3sp4wn> You can do it quicker if you use huge packets
[05:35] <|Twist> sensei: what do you mean with ballpark figure?
[05:35] <hugelmopf> Sunnyblizard: so go to the K-menu and open Konsole (in the System section)
[05:35] <sensei> |Twist: Could be more, could be less.. But around that figure
[05:35] <|Twist> Oke thanks
[05:35] <|Twist> I once did it with 800
[05:35] <rahab> hi there
[05:36] <|Twist> But that was on a network only with msn users :P
[05:36] <Sunnyblizard> hugelmopf, it was already open
[05:36] <Sunnyblizard> Why should I open it again?
[05:36] <cox377> h3sp4wn: sudo mount -t smbfs -o /home/admin/Desktop/Test
[05:36] <rahab> anyone around who can help me with beagel and kmail imap account ?
[05:36] <cox377> h3sp4wn: if there is no user name and pass for that windows machine then would that be the command?
[05:36] <z00m_> the best tools to use for that is aircrack / airodump and aireplay. It takes around 30Min's, packets increase really fast re injecting ARPS back into the air!
[05:36] <sensei> |Twist: 128 bit encryption and 800 packets? o.O
[05:36] <hugelmopf> Sunnyblizard: close it and reopen one, because something might be messed up in the old one. then you should be able to enter "kdesu yourcommand" to execute it with root privileges.
[05:36] <|Twist> sensei: Yes
[05:37] <|Twist> But the packets were damn small
[05:37] <h3sp4wn> cox377: I don't think you can use this method if security is not setup on the windows machine (but I have never tried)
[05:37] <cox377> h3sp4wn: hmmmmmmmmmm
[05:37] <cox377> h3sp4wn: irratating
[05:37] <hugelmopf> Sunnyblizard: the easier way would probably be to use "Alt-F2" and "kdesu yourcommand"
[05:37] <Sunnyblizard> It's working now :D Thanks you so much!
[05:37] <cox377> it\s just supposed to be a public drive on the network
[05:38] <z00m_> |Twist & sensei : aireplay is your tool for making traffic on a wifi AP ;)
[05:38] <Sunnyblizard> :)
[05:38] <h3sp4wn> cox377: Well have different usernames according to the windows usernames of people who wish to use it
[05:38] <h3sp4wn> cox377: I have no sympathy for anyone who ever has a read write open access share
[05:39] <cox377> h3sp4wn: lol
[05:39] <z00m_> h3sp4wn: I think windows XP does not allow different users different access, not sure though i might be wrong!
[05:40] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: It did the last time I used it (XP pro with the win2k style share stuff)
[05:41] <ninHer> hi all
[05:42] <rahab> anyone using beagle and kmail ?
[05:42] <z00m_> i think when i try-ed to setup a share on windows it just said do you want to make it  read / writable or not. then i think all users have the same access
[05:42] <z00m_> that's with the default XP share stuff, did you install w2k share apps ?
[05:43] <h3sp4wn> cox377: sudo mkdir -p /media/xpshare
[05:43] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: I just chose to not use the stupid filesharing
[05:44] <h3sp4wn> z00m_: Its enable expert filesharing or something (same as it used to be with win2k)
[05:44] <z00m_> anyway, I'm off to try and get this wine working, if i can play my games on Linux then windows it a gonna for sure
[05:44] <cox377> yeh not to worry guys
[05:44] <cox377> cheers anyway
[05:44] <h3sp4wn> cox377: sudo mount -t smbfs -o guest //WINDOWSNAME/SHARENAME /media/xpshare
[05:44] <z00m_> speak later
[05:45] <cox377> (/media/xpshare being the folder?) that i createsay on my kubuntu desktop?
[05:45] <h3sp4wn> cox377: You should mount things into /media (sudo mkdir -p /media/xpshare is one way)
[05:46] <jon1> exit
[05:48] <cox377> h3sp4wn: genius.. that's great.. cheers for that works like a charm
[05:49] <h3sp4wn> cox377: Make sure you remember the command - save it in a file somewhere or something
[05:49] <cox377> haha
[05:49] <cox377> shall add it to the list of already saved commands
[05:50] <h3sp4wn> cox377: You can get it to happen automatically but if the windows machine was not up it would wait until it timed out for a minute or so - which means I just do it when needed
[05:51] <zorglu1> couch automount couch :)
[05:53] <weedar> Is there a different command than lspci to show pcmcia devices?
[05:54] <cox377> h3sp4wn: what exactly do you mean automatically?
[05:54] <slow-motion> re
[05:55] <h3sp4wn> cox377: On bootup - but unless that windows machine is on 24/7 (in which case why is it not running something more stable) sometimes it will time out
[05:55] <cox377> h3sp4wn: ok i get yah,
[05:55] <zorglu1> weedar: from google, pcmcia devices appears in lspci
[05:56] <cox377> h3sp4wn: cgeers for yah help with that
[05:57] <cox377> h3sp4wn: just one more thing, i created a test folder.. but now i cant delete the test folder.. i assume because it's mounted.
[05:57] <cox377> any ideas?
[05:57] <weedar> zorglu1: that is what I thought, but a friend of mine has a aironet 350 cisco wifi-card that works, but doesn't show up in lspci
[05:57] <h3sp4wn> cox377: sudo umount /whereverits/mounted
[05:57] <zorglu1> weedar: ok my 'deduction' come from a lot of people complaining that their particular hw is not showing up as it *should* :)
[05:57] <cox377> : )
[05:58] <zorglu1> weedar: so it should :)
[05:58] <zorglu1> weedar: google "lspci pcmcia" to see what im talking about
[05:58] <zorglu1> weedar: so my guess is that the issue is somewhere else
[05:58] <h3sp4wn> pcmcia is not on the pci bus so it shouldn't show
[05:59] <h3sp4wn> cardbus stuff shows
[05:59] <zorglu1> h3sp4wn: well a huge number of people thinks it does :)
[05:59] <h3sp4wn> zorglu1: pcmcia are 16bit cards
[05:59] <zorglu1> i dont see the relation with anything :)
[05:59] <h3sp4wn> zorglu1: How can they go on a 32bit bus ?
[06:00] <zorglu1> just read my reasoning and where it comes from :)
[06:00] <zorglu1> there is no 16/32 bit anywhere in my reasoning :)
[06:00] <weedar> h3sp4wn: still lspci is supposed to show pcmcia devices - do you suggest another command to list pcmcia cards?
[06:00] <h3sp4wn> weedar: lshw
[06:00] <h3sp4wn> weedar: lspci is supposed to list things on the pcibus
[06:01] <zorglu1> hehe :) he is sticking with it :)
[06:01] <cox377> h3sp4wn: -bash: unmount: command not found
[06:01] <cox377> any ideas?
[06:01] <h3sp4wn> umount
[06:02] <dr_willis> note the lack of a N :)
[06:03] <dr_willis> gotta love old traddations.
[06:03] <zorglu1> old unix people did loves ultra short name :)
[06:03] <zorglu1> uniq is fun too :)
[06:04] <h3sp4wn> zorglu: pcmcia (The original PC Card bus was 16-bit, similar to ISA) cardbus (CardBus is effectively a 32-bit, 33 MHz PCI bus,) so pcmcia cards definately should not show in lspci (if they are pcmcia cards not cardbus)
[06:04] <zorglu1> hehehe
[06:04] <zorglu1> h3sp4wn: you are definitly stinking with it :) this is theorical stuff
[06:04] <zorglu1> my reasoning is practical
[06:05] <zorglu1> i dont wanna fight :) i was just telling that a huge number of people do believe that lspci do show pcmcia
[06:05] <zorglu1> i dont even know it if actually does
[06:05] <dr_willis> i dident think it did.
[06:05] <h3sp4wn> It shows cardbus
[06:05] <dr_willis> but i got no laptop/pcmcia cards to check right now
[06:06] <weedar> I was under the impression that cardbus and pcmcia was the same thing
[06:06] <zorglu1> dr_willis: google for 'lspci pcmcia' to see a list of people believiing it does
[06:08] <dr_willis> !limewire
[06:08] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[06:08] <zorglu1> weedar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCMCIA tells you are correct
[06:09] <weedar> zorglu1: wonderful :)
[06:19] <glecomte> Hi all !
[06:26] <ninHer> hi glecomte
[06:28] <glecomte> I have a problem with kubuntu
[06:28] <driz> ok
[06:28] <inc|freaky> ok
[06:29] <dergringo> ok
[06:29] <driz> ERRY!!!
[06:29] <glecomte> I have installed kubuntu with my USB port in disabled mode
[06:29] <ubuntu> yo
[06:29] <dr_willis> hmm
[06:30] <glecomte> and when I switch the USB on enabled my system is not running
[06:31] <Eeyore> glecomte: when you switch the usb on in the bios, your system does not boot ?
[06:31] <driz> !offtopic
[06:31] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:31] <ubuntu> DRIZ
[06:31] <driz> ubuntu click ont the offtopic side
[06:31] <driz> link
[06:31] <driz> it'll open a new window
[06:32] <glecomte> Eeyore yes when I switch my USB fonction in ON mode my system does not boot
 so i'm doing an install of Kubuntu 6.06 and i want to partition my hard drive so that my Windows OS will remain on the hdd while i have Kubuntu running on the hdd
[06:33] <driz> help him please^
[06:33] <Eeyore> ubuntu hi
[06:34] <ubuntu> hello
[06:35] <driz> Eeyore: can you please help??
[06:35] <ubuntu> hello?
[06:35] <driz> so little people on saturdays
[06:36] <ubuntu> it's sunday
[06:36] <Eeyore> i can try
[06:36] <driz> i meant to type that
[06:36] <dr_willis> Ubuntu installer should resize the drive shouldent it?
[06:37] <driz> dr_willis
[06:37] <ubuntu> hello?
[06:37] <driz> its a NTFS drive
[06:37] <ubuntu> exactly
[06:38] <ubuntu> so first off, i choose "manually edit partition table", correct? someone, i need help
[06:39] <dr_willis> Ive resized ntfs drives with the ubuntu isntaller
[06:39] <dr_willis> first thing i did on my laptop
[06:40] <ubuntu> ok so can you help me, dr_willis?
[06:40] <dr_willis> whats to help.. the installer did it all for me.
[06:40] <driz> so there is no need to manually do that
[06:40] <dr_willis>  or fire up a live cd with gparted and rezise and leave part of the hd unallocated.
[06:40] <Eeyore> ubuntu i thought that kubuntu would resize the drive for you
[06:40] <dr_willis> ive done it both ways
[06:41] <Snake[Sleep] > wtf is gnome-cups-icon? (its a process using 84% of my CPU)
[06:41] <ubuntu> so i should choose "resize IDE1 master, partition #2 (hda2) and use freed space"?
[06:43] <dr_willis> You may want to be SURE you got all your imporntant data backed up.
[06:47] <gemidjy> when will amarok 1.4.1 get into repos
[06:47] <tsdgeos> gemidjy: it's already there
[06:47] <z00m_> where is the shadowed password file stored on linux
[06:47] <tsdgeos> see kubuntu.org
[06:48] <gemidjy> tsdgeos: 1.4.1 ?
[06:48] <tsdgeos> yes
[06:49] <gemidjy> tsdgeos: where?
[06:50] <tsdgeos> see kubuntu.org
[06:50] <tsdgeos> exactly where it says "amarok 1.4.1 released"
[06:50] <tsdgeos> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[06:52] <_joel> Anyone know if you can use PAN the newsreader with gmail account for posting?
[06:53] <gemidjy> tsdgeos: thanks, must have missed it :S
[06:53] <_joel> I don't see where you can add a password in PAN
[06:55] <Lynoure> are there anyt other reputable sources for backport for dapper than the official 'backports' repository?
[06:56] <Lynoure> And does anyone know if a backport of hplip (etc) is being planned, as the version on dapper is quite old and does not seem to support HP LJ 1022
[06:57] <grizzly> how do I stop resolvconf from running a startup?
[06:57] <dr_willis> _joel,  i think its under the server settings
[06:57] <grizzly> It doesn't seem to be present in bum
[06:57] <tat_> qtparted crashes, when i try to read my /dev/hda, it has two partitions both ntfs, is there any known problem, couldn't find anythink in the net ..
[06:58] <Lynoure> grizzly: resolv.conf is just a .conf, it's updated by other sources, e.g. by your dhcp client.
[06:59] <tat_> i found the problem:: o Implementation: Support for opening ntfs file systems is not implemented yet.
[06:59] <Lynoure> grizzly: so it's written to, and read a lot after, but it does not run
[06:59] <grizzly> Lynoure: well I get a resolvconf fafiled message on startup. and if I reinstall resolvconf, it always empties my dns server settigns.
[06:59] <tat_> why is there no ntfs support yet, ntfs read write works for ages under linux ??
[07:00] <tsdgeos> tat_: lol, who told you that?
[07:00] <tsdgeos> write support has never worked
[07:00] <v3ctor> ntfs write support is not safe
[07:00] <tat_> tsdgeos : the output of qtparted on kubuntu 6.06 LTS
[07:01] <tat_> in knoppix it works like a champ ::
[07:01] <tat_> and on my debian  machine i can also mount rw ntfs
[07:01] <_joel> I don't see any server setting in pan...
[07:02] <tat_> OK I HAVE TO REBOOT INTO WINDOWS :( TO REPARTITION THE DISK
[07:02] <tat_> see ya
[07:02] <Lynoure> grizzly: yep, if you install it probably empties /etc/resolv.conf , try reinstalling anywat
[07:03] <dskhit> gente aiutooo
[07:03] <dskhit> cosa vuol dire  "Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6" ????
[07:03] <Lynoure> y, reinput the DNS servers manually from the old resolve.conf if needed (take a backup of it first)
[07:03] <dskhit> come lo posso risolvere
[07:04] <dskhit> what means ?? anyone can help me?
[07:04] <dskhit> Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6
[07:04] <grizzly> Lynoure: Done!, Thanks
[07:04] <grizzly> and I still haven't found where the network profile settigns are stored. for backup puposes
[07:05] <ssin> hi all
[07:05] <dskhit> how i can resolve the problem with the libc6?
[07:05] <Lynoure> grizzly: Let me know if it helped, when you know. (I'm always idling mere, so /msg reaches me)
[07:05] <ssin> anyone who can help me with wget?
[07:05] <Lynoure> grizzly: They'll mostly in /etc/network directory
[07:06] <grizzly> K
[07:06] <Lynoure> grizzly: except the forementioned resolv.conf in /etc/ , and some other things can be scattered about it you use unusual stuff (or define network configuration in the broad sense)
[07:06] <Eeyore> dskhit, what language ?
[07:07] <thompa> im wondering if my lcd is setup correctly, i had to manually add a modline for 1440x900, i got 60hz
[07:07] <thompa> i cant find any specs if its 60hz or not
[07:08] <Lynoure> thompa: 60hz is very common for lcds
[07:09] <thompa> Lynoure: ok, also the manual says 16 million colors, does that mean i should not be running at 24
[07:10] <jacques_> just floating around testing the connection. please ignore me for now.
[07:10] <Lynoure> thompa: 24 is prolly the number of color bits, not the number of colours :)
[07:10] <jacques_> ignore2
[07:10] <jacques_> ignore3
[07:10] <jacques_> ignore4
[07:10] <Lynoure> thompa: jacques_ There are test channels
[07:11] <Lynoure> thompa: oops, sorry about that
[07:11] <thompa> 16.2 Million colors resolution is listed in manual
[07:11] <thompa> ok, so 24 is ok
[07:12] <jacques_> sorry I don't even kow how this app works!!! I just happen to be here when I double klicked
[07:12] <Stardog> where can i fin a site on "howTO" add extra repos and install some things in kubuntu?
[07:12] <Lynoure> thompa: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth
[07:12] <thompa> thanks
[07:14] <Eeyore> ! repos
[07:14] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:14] <Eeyore> Stardog: what are you looking for specifically ?
[07:14] <thompa> next problem, cannot find hda1 my windows part.
[07:15] <thompa> error cant find hda1 in fstab or mtab
[07:15] <thompa> it was working before which is strange
[07:15] <Sunnyblizard> !time
[07:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about time
[07:15] <thompa> i thought it was nayway
[07:16] <Lynoure> thompa: check /etc/fstab
[07:16] <Stardog> howto uprade fram 386 kernel to 686 kernel in kubuntu?
[07:16] <Lynoure> thompa: What has happened between it being found or not?
[07:16] <thompa> no hda1 in fstab, its a windows fat32 10G partition
[07:16] <dskhit> sorry, but how i can resolve the problem with apt-get and libc6????
[07:17] <Stardog> Eeyore: well... the same wikipage that ubuntu has, in how to add extra repo, codecs and everything
[07:18] <Eeyore> video codes, mp3 codecs, etc
[07:18] <Eeyore> ! codecs
[07:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:18] <Lynoure> thompa: then it will need to be added. Cannot remember this by heart as I separated my mswindows fully...
[07:18] <thompa> Lynoure: disk and file system in system settings shows: hda1 11.gG no mount point no type
[07:19] <thompa> maybe im thinking the other computer had it working
[07:19] <Eeyore> ! w32codecs
[07:19] <ubotu> w32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[07:19] <Knag> hey
[07:19] <Lynoure> thompa: can you put your /etc/fstab to pastebin?
[07:19] <thompa> Lynoure: ive added it before, i think there is a simple way in gnome or some tool i used once
[07:20] <thompa> Lynoure: ok
[07:20] <thompa> !pastebin
[07:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:20] <sledge> o//   kubuntu!  \\o
[07:20] <thompa> Lynoure: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17642
[07:21] <thompa> Lynoure: i dont understand why it was not added to fstab
[07:21] <Eeyore> ! fstab
[07:21] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[07:21] <thompa> ive had other installs where it was
[07:22] <Lynoure> thompa: because all people do not want it to be there
[07:22] <thompa> the whole reason i installed win on fat32 was to read write to it easily
[07:22] <Lynoure> thompa: worry not, it will still be easy
[07:23] <thompa> on my other install i was able to access it, im just curious why the difference
[07:23] <Lynoure> thompa: actually you can prolly figure it out from http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[07:23] <thompa> i will , thanks
[07:24] <Lynoure> thompa: id you'll still need help after that, feel free to ask.
[07:24] <GBK> too new here. anyone knwo a link to christian chat?
[07:25] <thompa> thanks, its just that when things dont work consistantly it worries me, maybe hard drive is going bad
[07:25] <thompa> the other 2 computers have windows mounted and i did nothing
[07:25] <Lynoure> thompa: same distro, same version?
[07:26] <thompa> yes, different hardware though
[07:26] <thompa> one is ubuntu other edubuntu
[07:26] <thompa> ill be back , thanks again
[07:27] <kiba> err..
[07:27] <kiba> i have a problem :(
[07:27] <kiba> look this screenshot http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8264/shot16fl.png
[07:27] <Lynoure> thompa: I guess there might be slight differences between those and kubuntu in this sense, though it would be better to stick to the same policy when differences don't dictate otherwise
[07:27] <kiba> i cant update with adept
[07:28] <Eeyore> kiba, adept is in use
[07:28] <kiba> ok
[07:28] <kiba> but
[07:28] <thompa> kiba: close all your apt stuff first
[07:28] <kiba> how?
[07:28] <Eeyore> you can kill the adept process in the konsole if necessary
[07:28] <kiba> how can i do that?
[07:28] <kiba> kill ?
[07:29] <grizzly> kiba: alt+f2 > "kdesu ksysguard" > search for adept, a[t-get processes and kill them
[07:29] <Eeyore> kill -9 process
[07:29] <Eeyore> and you can see the process  pid in the konsole using "ps -ax"
[07:29] <_joel> Anyone know if you can set up pan with gmail smtp? I can't find the section where I enter my gmail account password...
[07:29] <Eeyore> er, "kill -9 pid" ... for example, "kill -9 3984"
[07:30] <Eeyore> normally, you will see the process id on the left and the description on the right
[07:30] <Eeyore> ya, or do as grizzly does it
[07:30] <kiba> :S
[07:30] <kiba> adept_notifier..
[07:31] <kiba> is the only thing starting at "adept*"
[07:32] <Eeyore> with ksysguard or in the konsole ?
[07:32] <kiba> konsole
[07:32] <Lynoure> kiba: and with   apt?
[07:32] <kiba> wait
[07:33] <kiba> nothin'
[07:35] <kiba> look
[07:35] <kiba> http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/5658/shot29pp.png
[07:35] <horus> Greetings, I don't see where to switch my KDE theme.
[07:35] <kiba> only adept_notifier :(
[07:36] <horus> All I see in system settings is "appearance" not "appearance and themes" and no theme manager to speak of
[07:36] <horus> Anybody encounter this?
[07:36] <horus> I'm on dapper
[07:37] <kiba> http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8264/shot16fl.png
[07:37] <kiba> http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/5658/shot29pp.png
[07:37] <kiba> :(
[07:37] <gatekeeper> !theme
[07:37] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:39] <Fiyawerx> is it possible to install rpms in kubuntu?
[07:39] <thompa> Lynoure: stupid gnome utility is broke, no i cant log in
[07:39] <Lynoure> Fiyawerx: possible, with e.g.   alien
[07:40] <thompa> Lynoure: i went into ubuntu, admin, dsiks, and just clicked the default for adding hda1 access
[07:40] <thompa> now i cant log in as user anymore
[07:40] <horus> If I click on a theme file I get the install kde theme notification in the toolbar, but I don't see where I can actually select the theme
[07:40] <Lynoure> thompa: What gnome utility?  Something you installed yourself? (this is #kubuntu)
[07:41] <ajayc> hi guys
[07:41] <thompa> no its the defualt ubuntu utility, under disk access
[07:41] <thompa> i can see it now beasue i created a guest user to log in
[07:42] <thompa> it gives me now a permission error, becasue i was stupid enough to add hda1 to /home
[07:42] <thompa> and locked me out of desktop
[07:42] <Stardog> Eeyore: do you now where I can find info on how to opgrade from 386 to 686?
[07:42] <Lynoure> ouch
[07:43] <thompa> im going to ask in ubuntu, they should have fixed that crap
[07:43] <Eeyore> ! 686
[07:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about 686
[07:43] <gatekeeper> Fiyawerx: yes you use alien but there is no gurantee the package will work what do you want to install?
[07:43] <Lynoure> thompa: That kind of things are the very reason I'm old fashioned and edit /etc/fstab manually, as a file.
[07:43] <thompa> i agree
[07:43] <Fiyawerx> gatekeeper: wasn't for me, someone was trying to install a limewire rpm in another channel
[07:43] <kiba> how i can kill all the process??
[07:43] <thompa> one click in the admin menu and you are screwed in ubuntu
[07:44] <sotired> all the sound in my games has stopped working! can someone help me?
[07:44] <Lynoure> thompa: you should still be able to straighten it out that way. grub menu recovery mode gives you root konsole, if you need it
[07:44] <thompa> ill let you know what happened
[07:44] <kiba> !kill
[07:44] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:44] <thompa> i did failsafe
[07:45] <sotired> :(
[07:45] <gatekeeper> Fiyawerx: they need to install alien first I think there is a package called freewire does the same
[07:45] <Stardog> Eeyore:  or is it impossible to upgrade the kernel?
[07:45] <Stardog> in kubuntu
[07:45] <Eeyore> looking
[07:46] <sotired> why the hell do you drive in a parkway and park in a driveway?
[07:46] <sotired> !=
[07:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about !=
[07:46] <Lynoure> thompa: ok, from there you should be able to edit fstab to give the windows partition a more sane mount point.
[07:46] <sotired> not equal to me
[07:46] <sotired> what is dis dick?
[07:47] <thompa> Lynoure: ubuntu folks are too busy
[07:47] <kiba> can somebody help me??
[07:47] <mossman> help you with what?  Sorry I just joined the channel
[07:47] <kiba> wait
[07:47] <thompa> Lynoure: in /home/thom i see windows directory
[07:47] <kiba> look this
[07:48] <kiba> http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8264/shot16fl.png
[07:48] <kiba> http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/5658/shot29pp.png
[07:48] <Sunnyblizard> hey, does somebody know how to view all installed rpm's on my machine?
[07:48] <Eeyore> ! i686
[07:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about i686
[07:48] <thompa> Lynoure: do you think if i just edit fstab im ok, maybe thats all it did?
[07:49] <Lexxix> hey can somone troubleshoot sound problems for me?
[07:49] <Eeyore> kiba, open konsole
[07:49] <Lynoure> thompa: that's prolly all the program did, if you look at the file there is prolly a line with hda1 in it (that was your windows part, right?)
[07:49] <kiba> ok
[07:49] <kiba> done
[07:49] <thompa> im logged on as a new user i had to create, just a sec
[07:49] <thompa> thanks again btw
[07:50] <gatekeeper> kiba: try killing adept_notifier
[07:50] <thompa> Lynoure: it wont let me open fstab
[07:50] <Sunnyblizard> hey, does somebody know how to view all installed rpm's on my machine?
[07:50] <Lynoure> thompa: just give it some other mount point that what you see there  (which at the moment prolly is /home/thom ),   making a directory mswindows or somesuch and putting that as the mount point should do the trick
[07:50] <h3sp4wn> Sunnyblizard: Try asking in #fedora or in some other distro's channel that uses rpm
[07:50] <Lynoure> thompa: you need to be root or have sudo for that
[07:51] <thompa> i am sudo but this guest account i created is limited
[07:51] <kiba> adept_notifier killed
[07:51] <Sunnyblizard> ok
[07:51] <Lexxix> would anyone know why a single call on skype would kill all further sound?
[07:51] <GliderMike> quit
[07:52] <kiba> :S it doesnt work
[07:52] <Lynoure> thompa: if you could create it, you prolly had root/sudo then
[07:52] <thompa> Lynoure: im going to have to reboot, log in as the correct user in bash
[07:52] <thompa> the menus dont give me any admin options either
[07:52] <Lynoure> thompa: good luck
[07:52] <thompa> ok
[07:52] <gatekeeper> kiba: what happened before this started?
[07:52] <zorglu1> Lexxix: skype uses oss, which may be a reason
[07:53] <Lexxix> maybe so
[07:53] <kiba> i was installing the vmware-player
[07:53] <kiba> with adept
[07:53] <Lexxix> what is happening is that i can talk indefinatly with a single person
[07:53] <kiba> and crashes :(
[07:53] <Lexxix> but as soon as i switch people and or end the call i get sound module problems with every program
[07:53] <Lexxix> including skype
[07:54] <gatekeeper> kiba: installation crashed out?
[07:54] <Eeyore> kiba: now, ps -ax
[07:54] <kiba> ps -ax done
[07:54] <Eeyore> now look for adept or apt or apt-get
[07:54] <kiba> gatekeeper YES
[07:55] <Eeyore> Stardog: found references on google, but have not located good directions
[07:55] <gatekeeper> kiba: no need to shout, try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:56] <Stardog> Eeyore: kk
[07:57] <kiba> gatekeeper
[07:57] <kiba> thank you
[07:57] <kiba> you are god ;)
[07:57] <gatekeeper> it worked?
[07:57] <kiba> yes :D
[07:57] <gatekeeper> kiba: cool :-)
[07:57] <kiba> yes, thanks :)
[07:58] <gatekeeper> kiba: you are welcome :-) pleased it is sorted
[07:58] <klerfayt> something strange is going on - everytime I log in my display power settings are reset to default
[07:59] <thompa> im back up
[08:01] <gatekeeper> kiba: if you are new to linux there are some links on my little home page you might find usefull: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[08:02] <kiba> thank you
[08:02] <kiba> er.r..
[08:02] <kiba> i got a new problem
[08:02] <kiba> im really noob
[08:02] <thompa> Lynoure: im back up again
[08:02] <thompa> Lynoure:
[08:02] <thompa> in gnome,
[08:02] <thompa> system: administration: disks
[08:02] <thompa> partitions: access path.
[08:02] <thompa> change
[08:02] <thompa> default is /home/thom causes lock out.
[08:02] <thompa> sorry
[08:03] <kiba> installing the vmwareplayer
[08:03] <kiba> http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6496/shot33ay.png
[08:03] <kiba> i cant do anything
[08:03] <kiba> i pressed enter
[08:03] <kiba> but nothing happen
[08:03] <thompa> its a gnome problem anyway, i mounted windows in /media and it works
[08:04] <gatekeeper> kiba: put focus onto the terminal window then press enter
[08:04] <kiba> i click on it
[08:04] <kiba> how to focus?
[08:04] <kiba> only click?
[08:05] <kiba> with mouse?
[08:05] <gatekeeper> kiba: yes click on it then press enter
[08:05] <fiyawerx> man, anyone else use sshfs?
[08:05] <fiyawerx> this is kickass
[08:05] <thompa> im going to bitch and moan over at ubuntu about this, another reason kubuntu works better
[08:05] <kiba> nothing :(
[08:05] <gatekeeper> kiba: yep
[08:05] <gatekeeper> uuh
[08:05] <h3sp4wn> fiyawerx: I use shfs
[08:06] <thompa> fiyawerx: what are you doing with it
[08:06] <thompa> im using ssh
[08:06] <fiyawerx> thompa: remote webhost mounting
[08:06] <thompa> done that yep
[08:06] <thompa> on a server in NJ
[08:06] <fiyawerx> i just found out about it, works perfect :)
[08:06] <Lynoure> thompa: Did you try to edit /etc/fstab directly as root? How did that go?
[08:06] <fiyawerx> so much easier
[08:06] <thompa> have you tried fish in konqueror?
[08:07] <fiyawerx> not sure what fish is
[08:07] <thompa> you can drag and drop files between local and server
[08:07] <fiyawerx> oh
[08:07] <fiyawerx> yeah but i prefer command line most of the time
[08:07] <Lynoure> thompa: I bet it would have been similarly easy to make that mistake in kubuntu disk tool and the result would be pretty similar, too
[08:07] <gatekeeper> kiba: you managed to dismiss the licence notice?
[08:08] <thompa> Lynoure: the disk tool did not seem to give me that option
[08:08] <Lynoure> thompa: you need console for that
[08:08] <thompa> fiyawerx: if you type "fish: followed by address in konq.
[08:08] <Lynoure> thompa: preferably outside gnome, as it is safer
[08:09] <dr_willis> fish is a ssh file system feature. :)
[08:09] <thompa> i see
[08:09] <dr_willis> sort of neat idea really
[08:09] <fiyawerx> ahh
[08:09] <Lynoure> thompa: gnome is trying to use /home, after all
[08:09] <kiba> i dont understand you gatekeeper
[08:09] <kiba> my english sucks
[08:09] <thompa> Lynoure: the logic makes sense. but anyone who just clicks once will be locked out in same situation
[08:10] <gatekeeper> kiba: you are doing fine
[08:10] <gatekeeper> kiba: has the installer moved on?
[08:10] <Lynoure> thompa: do control+alt+f1 to get on, then ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to gnome, exit gnome, back to ctrl+alt+f1 and the   sudo nano /etc/fstab   (or use whatever editor you prefer)
[08:11] <thompa> Lynoure: everythings working now
[08:11] <kiba> yes
[08:11] <kiba> i quited
[08:11] <kiba> wait
[08:11] <kiba> im going to restart this shit :(
[08:11] <thompa> i used the disk manager and added access to /media
[08:11] <gatekeeper> ok
[08:12] <thompa> Lynoure: clicking help in disk manager says there is none
[08:12] <thompa> its been like that for over a year
[08:12] <Lynoure> thompa: what do you mean by added access? because if you made the mount point directly /media, your automounts (e.g. usb sticks) will not work right.
[08:13] <thompa> they should at leat warn you
[08:13] <Lynoure> thompa: If I had my way there wouldn't be admin gui, but the world would burn me on a stake for that :)
[08:14] <thompa> where should i add windows access path then?
[08:14] <thompa> mount?
[08:14] <Lynoure> thompa: I'd make it a directory of it's own, e.g. /mswindows
[08:14] <Lynoure> thompa: that's assuming you want to keep it mounted always
[08:14] <dr_willis> or /mnt/mswindows
[08:15] <Lynoure> But it really depends on your preferences
[08:15] <dr_willis> and let /media/ have the auto-mounted stuff
[08:15] <thompa> Lynoure: usb sticks work fine
[08:15] <Lynoure> thompa: Listen to dr_willis , he is wise.
[08:15] <thompa> ok ok
[08:16] <h3sp4wn>  /media is the place where all stuff like that is supposed to be mounted /mnt is supposed to be depreciated
[08:16] <thompa> i will do /mnt/windos then
[08:16] <Lynoure> thompa: but if it works, hmm, I'm not sure I dare to tell you to change it. :)
[08:16] <thompa> ha
[08:16] <thompa> i plug in usb sticks to printer
[08:17] <thompa> window comes up with pictures everything
[08:17] <thompa> i guess i should test ipod
[08:17] <thompa> im missing the soccer game. gotta go
[08:21] <Eeyore> i am curious, what happened to /mnt, why did it get depreciatied ?
[08:21] <Eeyore> i have seen this in other distrobutions as well, not using mnt
[08:21] <Eeyore> what are the old timers to do if the new timers keep changing everthing :-)
[08:22] <linuxmonkey> lol
[08:23] <oomph_7> goal!
[08:23] <mukiex> What's the big development package I'm supposed to get?
[08:23] <Eeyore> ! development
[08:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about development
[08:23] <mukiex> That I can get through pat? For autoconf and such to work without a hitch?
[08:23] <uniq> build-essential'
[08:23] <Eeyore> un, that one
[08:24] <mukiex> Thanks, uniq =3
[08:24] <mukiex> You rock
[08:24] <zorglu1> Eeyore: they laugh and say 'damn they did the same mistake again' :)
[08:24] <uniq> you're welcome :)
[08:24] <mukiex> Will that make package building easy as well? ^_^
[08:24] <Lynoure> Eeyore: I bet it was just deemed non-pretty...
[08:24] <mukiex> bbl
[08:25] <uniq> it will install what you need to build essential stuff from source.
[08:26] <Breadmachine> im guessing imbrandon hasnt been on for a while
[08:26] <uniq> breadmachine: what do you need from him?
[08:27] <Eeyore> Eeyore, imbrandon was last seen 13 hours and 43 minutes ago saying: lol
[08:27] <Breadmachine> uniq: he was walkin me through enabling universe and multiverse so i could apt-get my nvidia drivers
[08:27] <Breadmachine> uniq: im still really new to linux
[08:27] <Eeyore> Breadmachine: that can be done easliy nuff
[08:28] <Eeyore> lemme reboot
[08:28] <dr_willis> hmm.
[08:29] <uniq> breadmachine: did you manage to add universe and multiverse?
[08:29] <Breadmachine> uniq: nope, my mouse died, had to recharge it overnight
[08:29] <linuxmonkey> Breadmachine: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu?highlight=%28repositories%29
[08:29] <zorglu1> Breadmachine: you recharged your *mouse* ??
[08:30] <linuxmonkey> must be a cordless zorglu1
[08:30] <dr_willis> I have several rechargeable wireless mice.
[08:30] <dr_willis> :P
[08:30] <zorglu1> wow :)
[08:30] <Breadmachine> zorglu1: yup, wireless optical 5 buttons gotta sleep sometime
[08:34] <motoraton> buenas
[08:34] <motoraton> say
[08:34] <Ahmuck> Breadmachine:
[08:34] <Breadmachine> linuxmonkey: should i be worried that the progrees bar in adept is stuck at 99% downloading headers?
[08:34] <Breadmachine> yes Ahmuck?
[08:35] <Ahmuck> nm
[08:35] <Breadmachine> brb
[08:35] <linuxmonkey> yeah it may have an issue with 1 of the repos, so id close adept and then retry to update
[08:37] <Breadmachine> linuxmonkey: cool, that worked like a charm
[08:37] <linuxmonkey> :) i know I wrote that guide..lol
[08:37] <Breadmachine> linuxmonkey: next step in my driver download adventure would be?
[08:37] <Breadmachine> linuxmonkey: very nicce
[08:37] <linuxmonkey> for nvidia?
[08:38] <mukiex-shower> dh_testdir : command not found ; what package has that prog?
[08:38] <Breadmachine> yup
[08:38] <Breadmachine> Nvidia geoforce FX5200 to be exact
[08:38] <linuxmonkey> Breadmachine: look for nvidia-glx
[08:39] <mukiex-shower> dephelpder, got it ^-^
[08:39] <ubuntu01> hello........so i have a c(ntfs) and a d(ntfs) partition on one hdd......i need to keep the data's of d: so if i install ubuntu to c: its dont touch my d:?i dont have swap partition....
[08:40] <thompa> dr_willis: would you know how to get my windows part. in /mnt
[08:40] <thompa> the disk manager wont let me change it
[08:40] <dr_willis> thompa,  put the correct entry in the fstab file
[08:40] <linuxmonkey> well ubuntu01 for starters you will need to format the C to a linux partition and when you do that you can specify a swap
[08:41] <thompa> dr_willis: right now hda1 is not in fstab so how can it be acessable in /media?
[08:41] <dr_willis> similer to....   /dev/hda1  /mnt/windows  vfat   user,noauto,rw
[08:41] <linuxmonkey> just make sure not to use the entire space of C when creating your linux partition
[08:41] <dr_willis> thompa,  /media stuff is handl;ed by the gnome/kde desktops/hal stuff I think
[08:41] <Breadmachine> ubuntu01: when you format the C; drive to linux, you will be given an option to create a swap partition on that drive
[08:41] <thompa> dr_willis: ok thanks
[08:41] <dr_willis> thompa,  its trying to be 'smart' :P
[08:41] <thompa> is there some way to remove it from media?
[08:42] <dr_willis> put it in the fstab and i dont think /media/ will mess with it any more
[08:42] <thompa> ok will do
[08:42] <dr_willis> !ntfs
[08:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[08:42] <dr_willis> !fstab
[08:42] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[08:42] <ubuntu01> linuxmonkey : ok....i know that....on the ubuntu support irc someone said that if i choose install on c: drive,ubuntu will make everything for me,and my d partition didnt change,couse i have some really common files in ntfs.
[08:43] <Breadmachine> linuxmonkey: guess i was still having problems with the headers, i fixed it though, adept is updating now
[08:43] <ubuntu01> Breadmachine ok....but when i give him the swap(1,5gb. isnt it?) it dont touch my d(extended) partition?
[08:43] <platoon> moin
[08:44] <platoon> wie komm ich in die bootloader-config?
[08:44] <Lynoure> !de
[08:44] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:44] <Breadmachine> Ubuntu01: nope, the swap partition will set up right on the C: drive
[08:45] <ubuntu01> Breadmachine : great
[08:45] <dr_willis> but removing C: and just leaving D; - is a little weird
[08:45] <linuxmonkey> lol
[08:45] <Breadmachine> linuxmonkey: im searching for nvidia-glx but i cant see it, just a bunch of kernel modules and an X config tool
[08:45] <dr_willis> plus what are ya going to be doing with a D: thats NTFS?
[08:45] <ubuntu01> dr_willis.....yes it is...thats my problem.
[08:46] <Breadmachine> ubuntu01: there is still a way to read that ntfs D drive from linux, so if thats where you store documents and music, they will still be useable
[08:46] <linuxmonkey> Breadmachine: poste your contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list to http://pastebin.ca
[08:46] <dr_willis> well still readable. :P
[08:47] <ubuntu01> d is ntfs yes....and there are some backup files on it like mp3 and pics.i want to install ubuntu to c: ntfs,and after install i want to copy my data from d to my new ext3 fs,and then format the ntfs to ext3.
[08:48] <Breadmachine> linuxmonkey: whats the editor for KDE, i know its gedit in gnome
[08:48] <linuxmonkey> kate
[08:49] <Breadmachine> linuxmonkey: http://pastebin.ca/83383
[08:50] <ubuntu01> so?
[08:50] <Breadmachine> ubuntu01: im not sure, my knowledge of linux dies at that point....
[08:50] <linuxmonkey> Breadmachine: seams to me your sources are having issues..lol
[08:51] <Breadmachine> linuxmonkey: well my sources are poopy heads
[08:51] <ubuntu01> nobody knows it...:S
[08:51] <uniq> breadmachine: i can assist you now, if you want.
[08:51] <uniq> http://pastebin.ca/83383 is your sources.list ?
[08:51] <Breadmachine> linuxmonkey: im stuck at 1024x768 and i cant have that
[08:52] <Breadmachine> yup uniq
[08:52] <uniq> breadmachine: remove the # on line 2.
[08:52] <linuxmonkey> Breadmachine: ill let uniq take over, i got some images i need to edit
[08:52] <uniq> breadmachine: and line 9.
[08:52] <Breadmachine> i didnt buy a 30 inch flatscreen to have it stuck with black boxes on the side
[08:53] <uniq> breadmachine: why? black boxes are nice :)
[08:53] <ubuntu01> linuxmonkey? any suggestion?
[08:53] <Breadmachine> uniq: thats line 2 right? # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[08:53] <uniq> ubuntu01: what's your problem?
[08:54] <uniq> breadmachine: yes, remove the leading #.
[08:54] <uniq> breadmachine: are you in the us?
[08:54] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> is there a guide for installing smartpm on dapper?
[08:54] <Breadmachine> uniq: that i am
[08:55] <uniq> vielgus-kutas: enable the universe repository, and 'sudo apt-get install smartpm'
[08:55] <uniq> !universe > vielgus-kutas
[08:55] <Breadmachine> uniq: okay, i uncommented them
[08:55] <uniq> !universe > uniq
[08:55] <uniq> breadmachine: ok, great. now in konsole: 'sudo apt-get update'
[08:56] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> uniq: thank you , it has a gui , right?
[08:56] <ubuntu01> uniq : i have a c(ntfs) and a d(ntfs) partition on one hdd......i need to keep the data's of d: so if i install ubuntu to c: its dont touch my d:?i dont have swap partition....
[08:56] <Breadmachine> uniq: http://pastebin.ca/83387
[08:56] <uniq> ubuntu01: you can delete C: and make new linux partitions in the free space.
[08:57] <linuxmonkey> ubuntu01: got a burner if so burn it to a cd/dvd and the format it all...lol
[08:57] <ubuntu01> if i delete C my extended(d) partition deleted also....but i need to keep it
[08:57] <uniq> breadmachine: do you have adept running?
[08:57] <uniq> ubuntu01: how come you can't delete C?
[08:58] <Breadmachine> uniq: nope, i learned that one early
[08:58] <ubuntu01> linuxmonkey....my dvd burner died few day ago...and the amount of data is 30 gb.
[08:58] <uniq> !adept crash fix > breadmachine
[08:58] <uniq> breadmachine: did you get a message from ubotu now?
[08:59] <Breadmachine> uniq, i did, and i did the command it sent me
[08:59] <uniq> now you can run 'sudo apt-get update' in konsole.
[08:59] <Breadmachine> cool
[08:59] <ubuntu01> couse if i delete c what about of its extended partition d? on the ubuntu support irc someone said that if i choose install on c: drive,ubuntu will make everything for me,and my d partition didnt change,couse i have some really common files in ntfs.
[09:00] <gatekeeper> !adept crash fix > gatekeeper
[09:00] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> uniq: is there some kind of guide for smartpm , i dont know how to use it
[09:00] <Breadmachine> ubuntu01: that was me, i wasnt aware that your D: was a logical partiton and not a physical drive
[09:00] <uniq> vielgus-kutas: i don't know, in kubuntu we use 'adept' as package manager.
[09:00] <h3sp4wn> VieLGuS-KuTaS: smart --help
[09:01] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> ok , thank you
[09:01] <ubuntu01> Breadmachine : ok :D....so any tipp?
[09:01] <Breadmachine> uniq: it says its connecting, but is stuck at 0% and not movin...
[09:01] <uniq> breadmachine: ok
[09:01] <uniq> breadmachine: do you have any proxy settings or anything like that?
[09:02] <ubuntu01> any tipp anyone? :D
[09:02] <Breadmachine> ubuntu01: im as lost as youy are at thius point
[09:02] <Breadmachine> uniq: no proxy, just qwest DSL
[09:03] <ubuntu01> :D
[09:03] <uniq> ubuntu01: can you explain your partition setup more in detail. I don't think i understand fully what is your problem.
[09:05] <Eeyore> seems like i had the same problem with adept but was able to fix it via the command line using "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade".
[09:06] <uniq> ubuntu01: D can't be inside C. You either have one extended partition with two logical partitons in it. Or you have one primary partition, and one extended with one logical in it.
[09:06] <Breadmachine> uniq: im gonna try a restart, and go fresh from there, brb
[09:08] <uniq> ubuntu01: either way you can delete C without touching D. And if you have a extended partition where C and D lives, you can resize the extended partition after deleting C.
[09:10] <Breadmachine> uniq: im back
[09:10] <uniq> breadmachine: any luck?
[09:10] <Breadmachine> uniq: well, so far so good
[09:11] <Breadmachine> uniq: well, now its stuck at its last archive at 99% and not a tick of network traffic
[09:11] <ubuntu01> uniq .....so i have one hdd....2 partitions...c (ntfs) and d (ntfs,this is the extended).on my d: i have backup files like my pics and lots of mp3,etc.i want to install ubuntu on c:.so if i click on install to hda1(my c: ntfs partition) and it will format it to ext3 and make swap partition.so,if i do this,my d(extended) wont be touched? is it "survive" my ubuntu install? :)
[09:12] <Eeyore> ubuntu01: back up your data !
[09:12] <uniq> breadmachine: good, apt got connected then :)
[09:12] <Breadmachine> uniq: the connection keeps timing out!!!
[09:12] <ubuntu01> after install ubuntu i copy my data to ext3 partition and format the ntfs to ext3.
[09:13] <uniq> ubuntu01: yes,  you delete your C during installation. And tell kubuntu to use all free space.
[09:13] <ubuntu01> Eeyore.....ok,but i havent got any shot how......my dvd burner died few days ago....
[09:13] <uniq> ubuntu01: if D is the logical inside the extended partition it should work just fine.
[09:14] <Breadmachine> when i first installed Gnome ubuntu, i had to edit a file in /etc/modprobe.d/bad_list and put in alias net-pf-10 off
[09:14] <uniq> breadmachine: why did you do that?
[09:15] <Breadmachine> some issue Gnome had with IPV6
[09:15] <Breadmachine> but i havent had that problem since
[09:16] <Breadmachine> uniq: im about to try that again
[09:17] <Murfy^> hello folks :) when i try to visit a website with firefox or apt-get from konsole, i get a timeout. When trying to open a website with konqueror, it works fine
[09:18] <thompa> i just rebooted and everything is really slow
[09:18] <toma> Murfy^: do you use a proxy?
[09:18] <Murfy^> nope
[09:18] <Murfy^> BUT i think it has something to do with my new router, since it started then, and at work it works perfectly
[09:19] <Murfy^> but i have no idea what i should set up in the router to get it fixed
[09:19] <ubuntu01> uniq...i will link a screenshot from my Vista b2 Diskmanagement....its say that the d is a logical(light blue) on an extended(green) partition...is this ok? shot is here: http://winmod.uw.hu/Untitled.JPG
[09:19] <Breadmachine> Murfy^: you may have to do what i did once...
[09:19] <thompa> kubuntu is really slow after reboot
[09:19] <ubuntu01> i test the Vista for my online magazine,its not my favourite :D
[09:19] <Murfy^> throw it out of the window Breadmachine?
[09:20] <thompa> now its back to normal speed after about 5 minutes?
[09:20] <thompa> could it be some app is slowing it?
[09:20] <tat_> i have trouble with the installer in 6.06.LTS, i have a free partition from 5G between hda1 and hda5, i can make a partition with cfdisk and write a FS onto it, but the installer tels me, i should make sure that there is more than 2G space free on the harddrive when i use the "edit partition manually" option, any idea how i get the installer to use my free space ?
[09:20] <Breadmachine> Murfy^: lol, no, your router may have problems translatin IPV4 into IPV6, but ive figured a good reliable workaround for it
[09:21] <h3sp4wn> thompa: maybe updatedb or something loading from anacron
[09:21] <thompa> none of the menus are opening now either, maybe its nvidia
[09:21] <inc|freaky> hi all. can someone tell me how to set up a usb printer (epson stylus photo r240) in kubuntu?
[09:21] <Murfy^> weird, it's a brand new one Breadmachine :D i'll have a look if there are firmware upgrades available
[09:21] <uniq> ubuntu01: yes, that's fine. Now during installation. Delete C, (hda1), and make new partitions in the free space.
[09:21] <Breadmachine> uniq: grr, no go, i may have to add that entry to bad_list
[09:21] <tat_> inc|freaky use the kde printer setup programm
[09:21] <inc|freaky> tat_: where is that?
[09:22] <thompa> its still doing it, how can i tell what is causing slowdown
[09:22] <inc|freaky> and does anyone know if the quality of prints is as good as under windows with the windows driver?
[09:22] <ubuntu01> uniq ok,ill give her a try....i really hope that you right :)
[09:23] <uniq> thompa: ctrl+esc will give you a processtable.
[09:23] <thompa> i cant find any problem in sys guard
[09:23] <uniq> ubuntu01: I am.
[09:24] <Breadmachine> uniq: any ideas before i go nuclear option and add that entry in bad_list?
[09:24] <tat_> ircjeremy : do a right click onto the kde pannel and than "add aplet to pannel" select "printer system" and than use it and run "add printer "
[09:24] <ubuntu01> if i just choose at ubuntu install that use C: (hda1) it will make everything for my?
[09:24] <uniq> breadmachine: no, never experienced that kind of problems.
[09:24] <tat_> inc|freaky : depends on your printer, but epson is generally ok
[09:25] <thompa> keyboard stoppe
[09:25] <uniq> ubuntu01: delete C. then tell the installer to use the free space.
[09:25] <thompa> icons on desktop dissapeared now
[09:25] <uniq> ubuntu01: do you have the dapper livecd-installer?
[09:25] <thompa> fuk
[09:25] <uniq> thompa: alt+f2  run 'kdesktop'
[09:25] <thompa> k
[09:26] <tat_> is ther a way to install without that dammn new installer in kubuntu 6.06, it can't figure out my free spce on the hard drive
[09:26] <thompa> this happened befiore last week
[09:26] <uniq> tat_: you can download the alternate install iso image..
[09:26] <ubuntu01> uniq : dapper live dvd :)
[09:26] <thompa> kde system guard not responding
[09:26] <tat_> it's nice that it gets all so "easy" but to remove options from the installer, i don't know if this is trhe right way
[09:27] <tat_> uniq : do i get than the nice antiq ncurses based installer ?
[09:27] <uniq> ubuntu01: ok, then before you click install on the desktop. run alt+f2 and 'qtparted' - now within qtparted delete C (hda1), save and exit parted. And run the installer, select use free space during install.
[09:27] <uniq> tat_: yes, the good old one :)
[09:27] <tat_> uniq : i thourgt there is just one CD now for both LIVE and INSTALL ???
[09:27] <thompa> i got system guard open now
[09:28] <thompa> uniq: what should i look for?
[09:28] <uniq> tat_: there is just one printed CD you can get from shipit. But you can download a whole bunch of cds.
[09:28] <uniq> thompa: whatever is using alot of CPU
[09:28] <ubuntu01> uniq....ok,i boot up from live dvd and make that you said......i will be back soon
[09:28] <ubuntu01>  8-)
[09:28] <tat_> uniq : why isn't this installer on the on from shipit, it will take me hours to downlaod a CD now :(
[09:28] <thompa> uniq: xorg is the only thing i see in %
[09:29] <Breadmachine> uniq: well, after adding my IPV6 workaround, i got a lil bit more acticity from apt get
[09:29] <uniq> hang on.. phone.
[09:29] <thompa> 18.88% user then 0% xorg
[09:29] <thompa> back and forth
[09:29] <tat_> uniq : i start to dislike (k)ubuntu, its allways a pain in the ass, all have to be so userfriendly, that nothing works
[09:30] <tat_> Breadmachine : is it a 3com router ??
[09:30] <ChefWill> anyone use a different IM client then gaim or kopete?
[09:30] <tat_> i have trouble with the installer in 6.06.LTS, i have a free partition from 5G between hda1 and hda5, i can make a partition with cfdisk and write a FS onto it, but the installer tels me, i should make sure that there is more than 2G space free on the harddrive when i use the "edit partition manually" option, any idea how i get the installer to use my free space ?
[09:30] <thompa> i need to find out finally what this is so i can work
[09:30] <thompa> last week same thing happened, desktop just started melting down
[09:31] <Breadmachine> tat_: nope an actiontec gateway from qwest
[09:31] <tat_> ChefWill : use jabber, is really cool , psy is the best jabber client out there
[09:31] <Murfy^> Breadmachine: are you willing to share the workaround? :p
[09:31] <thompa> how can i tell what in process table is a problem
[09:31] <uniq> thompa: what is slow then?
[09:31] <tat_> Breadmachine : i have a friend with an uniq problem, he updated the firmware and his troube whee gone !!
[09:32] <thompa> uniq: desktop icons dissapeared and came back, opengl screensaver stopped working
[09:32] <thompa> etc
[09:32] <Breadmachine> tat_: ive had trouble updating the firmware on this thing
[09:32] <uniq> tat_: because the livecd has a new installer on it, and most people find that installer easy and good. If you want the advanced good old hacker installer, you can download it for free :)
[09:32] <thompa> uniq: now its working again, it slowed for almost 5 minutes
[09:33] <thompa> uniq: i hate not knowing whats wrong
[09:34] <thompa> is there some way i can see what happened a few minutes ago?
[09:34] <uniq> try to add the tray icon named something like 'wild process catcher' or something.. don't remember exactly.
[09:34] <ubuntu01> re
[09:34] <ubuntu01> so
[09:34] <thompa> ok
[09:34] <ChefWill> tat_: I dont have a choice what service i can be on - i have to be on certain cervices and jabber istn one
[09:34] <ubuntu01> uniq.....there is no qtparted.....the app starter didnt find it.
[09:35] <ubuntu01> gparted.....thats good too?
[09:35] <thompa> runaway process catcher
[09:35] <slow-motion> n8
[09:35] <uniq> ubuntu01: do you have the ubuntu livecd?
[09:36] <uniq> ubuntu01: not kubuntu?
[09:36] <ubuntu01> ubuntu live dvd.....
[09:36] <ubuntu01> ubuntu,not kubuntu
[09:36] <ubuntu01> so, i have gparted
[09:36] <uniq> ubuntu01: ok, gparted then. kubuntu uses qtparted. ubuntu use gparted.
[09:36] <thompa> uniq: i added runaway process catcher, it has programs to ignore "x"
[09:36] <thompa> i guess i wait until it happens again
[09:37] <uniq> thompa: yes, that's because X always use alot of CPU. And killing it will not help you very much.
[09:37] <thompa> so hopefully x is not the problem
[09:37] <Breadmachine> uniq: what was the command to unlock apt-get again?
[09:38] <uniq> !adept crash fix > breadmachine
[09:38] <thompa> does this program tell me which app. is causing problem?
[09:38] <thompa> everthing is speedy again, it happens every few days it seems
[09:38] <uniq> thompa: this program prompts you when a program is using much cpu.
[09:39] <thompa> last week i lost my Openoffice doc i was working on
[09:39] <thompa> ok thanks
[09:39] <uniq> thompa: there are hourly, daily, weekly, monthly.. and so on.. tasks executed by cron.
[09:39] <ubuntu01> uniq.....winmod.uw.hu/Screenshot.png pls see this is correct?i can delete hda1?
[09:39] <uniq> to keep your system fit for fight :)
[09:40] <thompa> uniq: can i find out what cron is doing? i setup nothing for it
[09:40] <thompa> warning: a program called kicker is slowing down others
[09:40] <uniq> ubuntu01: yes.
[09:40] <ubuntu01> i will make a shot and conf my nautilus for an ftp in 2 sec....great thing
[09:41] <ubuntu01> ok,i reboot for some mail and then install ubuntu.thx all,i will be here soon
[09:42] <uniq> thompa: it's doing system stuff.. you can have a look at /etc/cron.d/ and /etc/corn.hourly, /etc/cron.daily, /etc/cron.weekly/, and so on. I do not recommend removing or disabling anything.. But you can have a look and find out what's happening.
[09:42] <thompa> great thanks
[09:43] <cwojack> Has anyone installed vmware in kubuntu?  I am having prolems finding the devilopement stuff.
[09:44] <uniq> !vmware > cwojack
[09:44] <cwojack> Or is there a better way besides dule boot to run two windows apps?
[09:44] <uniq> wine
[09:45] <uniq> !wine > cwojack
[09:45] <cwojack> Does windows need to be installed before Ubuntu to use wind?
[09:45] <Breadmachine> uniq: well, im totally stumped
[09:45] <uniq> cwojack: no.
[09:46] <cwojack>  I will look at the docs.  Thanks.  is there any pitfalls that I need to know about?
[09:46] <cwojack> also is there a simple how to for setting up wine?
[09:48] <toma> apt-get install wine
[09:48] <Murfy^> Breadmachine it was a nice try, but it didn't work :p
[09:48] <Murfy^> = still the same
[09:48] <uniq> murfy^: what is your problem again?
[09:49] <Murfy^> firefox is acting weird, konqueror isn't :)
[09:49] <Murfy^> i can't visit any site without getting a timeout
[09:49] <uniq> how is firefox acting weird?
[09:49] <Murfy^> except when i ping it first
[09:49] <Murfy^> so for example i can't reach kubuntu.org
[09:49] <uniq> that's weird for sure.
[09:49] <Murfy^> but if i ping to kubuntu.org and visit with firefox it works
[09:49] <uniq> and konqueror works on any site?
[09:49] <Murfy^> jep
[09:49] <Murfy^> without the ping thing
[09:49] <Murfy^> and this is weird too:
[09:49] <uniq> understand.
[09:49] <Murfy^> [Er wordt verbinding gemaakt met archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)] 
[09:49] <uniq> 1.0.0.0
[09:50] <uniq> proxy settings?
[09:50] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> do i have to chmod a script before i can run it??
[09:50] <Murfy^> so when i try to apt-get something, i need to ping archive.ubuntu.com too
[09:50] <uniq> murfy^: try this command in a konsole 'sudo unset http_proxy'
[09:50] <Murfy^> i checked proxy settings, all set to "direct connection"
[09:50] <Murfy^> same
[09:50] <Breadmachine> Murfy^ sorry boutthat bro, as it is, im killing myself over this universe/multiverse problem...
[09:51] <uniq> murfy^: try 'sudo unset http_proxy;sudo apt-get update
[09:51] <uniq> '
[09:51] <Murfy^> same uniq, he tries to update from 1.0.0.0
[09:51] <Murfy^> BUT
[09:51] <uniq> murfy^: also check /etc/environment for proxy settings.
[09:51] <Murfy^> i forgot to mention that at work, it works perfectly :)
[09:51] <uniq> oh..
[09:52] <toma> b0rked nameserver
[09:52] <uniq> then it's probably not a software problem.. even though it is strange that konqueror works.
[09:52] <Murfy^> so it has something to do with this router, but i have no idea
[09:52] <uniq> toma: possibly.
[09:52] <uniq> murfy^: try to force some other nameserver in resolv.conf
[09:53] <Murfy^> still the same, i'll look up the Belgacom Skynet nameserver and try that one
[09:53] <uniq> please do.
[09:53] <zorgluuu> q. how do i stop kterminal to do beep all the time ? like visible effect instead of sound one ?
[09:53] <Murfy^> omiegosh
[09:54] <Murfy^> apt-get update is working now uniq
[09:54] <Murfy^> with the provider's nameservers
[09:54] <uniq> murfy^: thank toma, he's the brain behind the solution :)
[09:54] <Murfy^> toma you are a hero :p
[09:54] <abattoir> zorgluuu: Settings->Bell->
[09:55] <Murfy^> but does this mean that i should return my router to the store? :p
[09:55] <zorgluuu> abattoir, i dont have any 'setting' menu or submenu...
[09:55] <uniq> murfy^: probably not, you sould try to configure it to use your providers nameservers.
[09:55] <Murfy^> it is configured to do so uniq
[09:56] <abattoir> zorgluuu: running konsole right?
[09:56] <zorgluuu> abattoir, i start doubting that...
[09:56] <zorgluuu> let me check
[09:56] <zorgluuu> fdamn no
[09:56] <ubuntu> hello, now i test kubuntu :) works fine :) but i have one problem, the installer crash after disk partitioning :/
[09:56] <zorgluuu> this is a gnome terminal abattoir
[09:57] <zorgluuu> i should change that :)
[09:57] <Murfy^> uniq: http://img416.imageshack.us/img416/9375/weird4mp.png
[09:57] <Murfy^> as you can see :)
[09:57] <uniq> murfy^: ok,you can of course talk to the store and tell them it doesn't behave very nice.
[09:57] <abattoir> zorgluuu: aah, then i have no clue :P
[09:57] <uniq> murfy^: you can also override DHCP settings in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[09:58] <zorgluuu> abattoir, it is ok, i changed the default to konsole now :)
[09:58] <zorgluuu> so nice this qemu btw :)
[09:58] <abattoir> zorgluuu: :)
[09:58] <uniq> murfy^: you can set it to use the selected nameservers maybe. Auto discover might be broken.
[09:59] <Murfy^> i'll just go to the store tomorrow and tell them, i had it for a week so it shouldn't be a problem to get a new one / get it fixed for free :D
[09:59] <Murfy^> i'm happy that everything works fine now
[09:59] <humbert> allez les bleus !!!
[10:00] <toma> Murfy^: return the router for this?
[10:00] <ubuntu01> hello all,iam back
[10:00] <ubuntu01> uniq.....worked what you said
[10:01] <uniq> ubuntu01: great :)
[10:01] <ubuntu01> looks like my d is stayed,and my c is now deleted
[10:01] <zorgluuu> anybody tried running macosx under qemu ?
[10:01] <inc|freaky> how can i share a printer on a kubuntu box with other pcs f.e. a laptop running windows in a local network?
[10:01] <Murfy^> yes toma, I work at the store where i got it, and my boss is the one who introduced me to linux 5 years ago, so he will give me a new one just to make sure that my linux works fine ^^
[10:02] <toma> hu?
[10:02] <ubuntu01> at the installer it says: use the biggest free disk space,or something like that(i'm from another language) is this what i need?
[10:02] <ubuntu01> toma,en magyar vok.
[10:02] <uniq> ubuntu01: yes. that's what you need.
[10:02] <itsik> dis someone by any chance heard about kuartet?
[10:03] <toma> just put a prepend "domain-name-servers 102.45.45.45;" in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and live happy ever after
[10:03] <zorgluuu> q. how do i make kubuntu to recreate a given device in /dev at every boot ? kqemu in this case
[10:03] <uniq> zorgluuu: use udev rules.
[10:03] <ubuntu01> ok,ubuntu is now installing....great that i can chat too.
[10:04] <Murfy^> done toma, thanks :) this channel makes my life a lot easier :D
[10:04] <zorgluuu> uniq, nothing simpler ?
[10:05] <uniq> zorgluuu: you can always run MAKEDEV manually from a script, but that's very unclean and ugly.
[10:05] <toma> Murfy^: check the syntax with 'man dhclient.conf', i did it from memory.
[10:05] <zorgluuu> uniq, hmm ok i will look at udev then :)
[10:05] <ubuntu01> anyway THX uniq......big THX!!!
[10:05] <omeow> Why does my mouse cursor flash rapidly when I click a link in my browser? How can I stop that from happening?
[10:06] <zorgluuu> i would love to an icon on the desktop which is a window xp :)
[10:06] <uniq> ubuntu01: you're welcome, enjoy kubuntu :)
[10:06] <uniq> ubuntu01: or in your case, ubuntu :)
[10:07] <ubuntu01> :)
[10:07] <RawSewage> Konqueror question:  I click a link to download a file, but it asks to save it as the .php file instead of the mp3
[10:07] <uniq> rawsewage: bad setup webserver.
[10:07] <RawSewage> it works on FF though
[10:08] <RawSewage> it still downloads the mp3
[10:08] <RawSewage> but it names it  index.php
[10:08] <RawSewage> on FF, it downloads, using the correct name
[10:08] <RawSewage> does that make any sense, what Im saying?
[10:09] <Murfy^> yes RawSewage it does
[10:09] <ircjeremy> how do I open channels automatically at login w/ konversation? (I was disconnected, if anyone already answered)
[10:09] <zorgluuu> oh ya un but
[10:09] <uniq> the webserver probably sends a bad mime-type for the file.
[10:09] <uniq> or something like that.
[10:09] <Murfy^> but it's not a problem, you can just enter myStuff.mp3 where it prompts to save as ....php
[10:09] <uniq> that's a common problem.
[10:09] <RawSewage> hm
[10:09] <RawSewage> FF saves it correctly
[10:09] <RawSewage> there must be a way to fix it
[10:10] <RawSewage> Konq saves it as  samplesDownload.php
[10:10] <RawSewage> and FF saves it as  19966_banjoboy_doorlatch_w_creak.mp3
[10:10] <zorgluuu> on the panel, in the window list, i would like to have only the window on this screen, and not the window on all screens, where is the option ?
[10:15] <uniq> zorgluuu: right click on the grey area left of the window list. choose configure.
[10:15] <uniq> zorgluuu: the first box from the top, is the one you want to untick.
[10:16] <zorgluuu> ythanks
[10:16] <zorgluuu> i choosed to actually use kubuntu now :)
[10:16] <zorgluuu> so  config time :)
[10:17] <Murfy^> why does the nameserver in resolv.conf changes back to the old one after a couple of minutes when i change it?
[10:17] <uniq> because you didn
[10:17] <uniq> t
[10:18] <uniq> edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[10:18] <omeow> Christ... how do I clear missed events from Skype? I keep having this flashing icon in my list and I have no idea how to get rid of it.
[10:18] <omeow> I can't right-click to clear them. All it does is lower or raise the little bar that lists events.
[10:18] <uniq> murfy^: or if you did, you'll have to disconnet and reconnect to the network, (restart dhclient) to pickup the changes done to the file.
[10:19] <zorgluuu> q. in konsole, how do i make a white background, i tried changing, schema but it doesnt seem to have any effect
[10:19] <zorgluuu> oh i get it :)
[10:19] <dr_willis> lol
[10:19] <zorgluuu> i was changing the definition of the schema
[10:19] <zorgluuu> not the schema to actually use :)
[10:20] <ubuntu01> ok
[10:20] <ubuntu01> i'am back again
[10:22] <ubuntu01> uniq.....my ntfs partition is not mounted.....or is it? its in my computer folder,but i cant access it.its say he cant mount it.but its in computer folder.any help? how can i quickly mount it to read?
[10:23] <dr_willis> use mount command and see.
[10:24] <RawSewage> Should I upgrade to KDE 3.5.3
[10:24] <RawSewage> and how do I do that
[10:24] <Eragon> I CANT GET MY WIRELESS TO WORK ARGHHH
[10:24] <Eragon> okay
[10:24] <dr_willis> I wouldent bother  at this time RawSewage
[10:25] <RawSewage> I think it has a fix I need
[10:25] <RawSewage> why not bother
[10:25] <Murfy> RawSewage, this is easily done with apt-get upgrade, check kubuntu.org
[10:25] <RawSewage> ok ty
[10:25] <Murfy> RawSewage: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php
[10:25] <Eragon> does anyone else have broadcom 3206 wire chipset and got it to work?
[10:25] <Murfy> with a simple apt-get update and apt-get upgrade it's done
[10:25] <RawSewage> oh yeah
[10:26] <RawSewage> I see the article
[10:26] <Eragon> i tried ndiswrapper and it still wont enable
[10:26] <RawSewage> cool
[10:26] <Murfy> did you enable the kernel module Eragon?
[10:26] <Murfy> ndiswrapper -m
[10:26] <Eragon> mm
[10:26] <Eragon> yes
[10:26] <Eragon> =/
[10:26] <zaba> Hello
[10:26] <Sunnyblizard> hey
[10:26] <Eragon> i click to enable the network interface
[10:26] <Murfy> what does ndiswrapper -l say Eragon
[10:27] <Eragon> and a second later it disables
[10:27] <Eragon> the correct output
[10:27] <Murfy> k
[10:27] <zaba> I need help ;( but i search Polish lang for kde 3.5.3
[10:27] <Eragon> driver and hardware found
[10:27] <Eragon> something like that
[10:27] <Eragon> im on windows now
[10:27] <RawSewage> Murfy, just  apt-get upgrade   , or  sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:27] <Eragon> trying to figure it out
[10:27] <Murfy> sudo of course
[10:27] <RawSewage> and do I have to add KDE
[10:27] <RawSewage> sudo apt-get upgrade what
[10:28] <Archie_Tooth> Eragon:  what driver are you using?
[10:28] <Murfy> RawSewage: at this line so /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main
[10:28] <ubuntu01> dr_willis okay i try but right now i dl the upgrades
[10:28] <Murfy> after that, perform sudo apt-get update
[10:28] <Eragon> uhm, i got it from the list specified by the ndiswrapper wiki
[10:28] <Eragon> 14e4:4320
[10:28] <Eragon> one of those
[10:28] <RawSewage> Murfy, ok thx
[10:28] <Murfy> and than perform apt-get upgrade
[10:29] <Murfy> oh yes after you added the line in sources.list, also enter this in your konsole:
[10:29] <Murfy>  wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[10:29] <Murfy>  sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[10:29] <RawSewage> oh
[10:29] <Murfy> for the gpg key
[10:29] <Eragon> i saw on ubuntu forums there's an alternative to ndiswrapper, but i cant find instructions for kubuntu
[10:29] <Eragon> some bcmxx_free?? package
[10:29] <h3sp4wn> !bcm43xx
[10:29] <ubotu> wifi is Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[10:30] <Eragon> ah.
[10:30] <Eragon> i dont have that package on kubuntu
[10:31] <Eragon> can i get it somwhere?
[10:31] <Eragon> and also, where can i get the build tools packages for using 'make' for compiling source
[10:32] <Eragon> PKs
[10:33] <ubuntu01> re
[10:34] <ubuntu01> okay....upgrades installed....so....how can i mount my /dev/hda5 ? its say that cant run pmount
[10:35] <Archie_Tooth> Eragon: are you sure the bcm43xx driver is not conflicting with ndiswrapper?
[10:36] <Archie_Tooth> Eragon:  check out this forum topic:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-191084.html
[10:36] <Eragon> ok, tnx
[10:36] <Eragon> but i think i dont have bcm43xx
[10:36] <Eragon> i mean when i do sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[10:36] <dr_willis> ubuntu01,  this a ntfs partition? or what
[10:37] <Eragon> it says that the package cant be found
[10:37] <Archie_Tooth> The bcm43xx is the driver that gets loaded by default if a Broadcom w/l card is detected.  In Dapper this must be turned off before ndiswrapper can be installed.
[10:38] <uniq> ubuntu01: in konsole 'sudo mkdir -p /media/ntfs;sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdXX /media/ntfs' where /dev/hdXX is the device name of your ntfs partition.
[10:38] <Eragon> ohh
[10:38] <Eragon> okay, ic
[10:38] <Eragon> tnx archir_tooth
[10:39] <ubuntu01> dr_willis....yes ntfs....
[10:39] <dr_willis> http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[10:39] <Eragon> do you know how i can disable bcm43xx?
[10:39] <Archie_Tooth> Eragon:  yes, you have to 'blacklist' it.  Check out the forum link I posted - that gives details.
[10:39] <uniq> eragon: bcm43xx-fwcutter is in the universe repository. Do you have that enabled?
[10:40] <ubuntu01> dr_willis : i found it i read it right now thx
[10:40] <Eragon> okay, let me try
[10:40] <dr_willis> thats the best url ive seen of info on ntfs/linux :)
[10:40] <Eragon> i dont know if i have it enabled
[10:40] <Eragon> sigh
[10:41] <ClayG> how can i make my system automount drives, usb keys, etc?
[10:41] <uniq> clayg: are you the user added during installation ?
[10:41] <Murfy> uniq: i edited dhclient.conf, but still, the line "nameserver 192.168.0.1" keeps appearing in resolv.conf
[10:42] <uniq> murfy: did you disconnect from the network, and reconnect?
[10:42] <Murfy> i guess there is some kind of lepricorn in my laptop doing that
[10:42] <Murfy> yes
[10:42] <ChefWill> anyone use a different IM client then gaim or kopete? (for AIM/yahoo mainly)
[10:42] <uniq> how does your dhclient.conf look now? (pastebin.ca)
[10:42] <Bizzy> boycot italy
[10:42] <ClayG> yes
[10:44] <Archie_Tooth> sforza italia
[10:45] <Bizzy> ref was right to send off zidane, but, according to the rules.... zidane should have still been on the field
[10:45] <Bizzy> because the ref didnt see it
[10:45] <Bizzy> on the word of his assistant, he can only give a yellow at the most
[10:46] <Murfy> uniq: http://pastebin.be/1204/
[10:47] <ubuntu01> dr_willis ok,i tried,it says that the mnt/windows mount point not available.....
[10:47] <toma> Murfy: looks good
[10:53] <zorgluuu> q. how do i see which /etc/init.d/ script are launched on boot ?
[10:53] <uniq> zorgluuu: you can use ksysv
[10:54] <uniq> if it's not installed it is in universe.
[10:54] <zorgluuu> ok thanks
[10:54] <uniq> zorgluuu: you can also take a look at /etc/rc2.d/ which is the default runlevel.
[10:54] <uniq> S is start, the number is the order, lowest first.
[10:55] <uniq> K is kill.. and so on.
[10:56] <dr_willis> ubuntu01,  make the dir
[10:57] <uniq> murfy^: if you still have problems, you can use 'supersede' instead of 'prepend'.
[10:58] <Murfy^> ok
[10:58] <uniq> that would totaly disable the nameserver given by the server, and use the locally configured one.
[11:00] <nmorse> Anyone know how to change what device you use with nmap?
[11:00] <nmorse> It keeps trying to use eth0 but I need eth1.
[11:00] <nmorse> The man page hasn't been terribly helpful.
[11:01] <uniq> nmorse: -e
[11:01] <nmorse> If I do it with that it says it can't resolve the hostname for eth1.
[11:02] <Bizzeh> http://home.wanadoo.nl/jvanveluwen/zidane.gif
[11:02] <uniq> nmorse: works perfectly fine here.
[11:02] <uniq> nmorse: nmap -e eth1 hostname
[11:03] <nmorse> Hmm, thanks uniq. I'm trying to figure out what's wrong now. I'll probably be back if I can't get it work in the next ten minutes.
[11:05] <ubuntu> Help! My kubuntu is broken!
[11:05] <ubuntu> I'll load it up, and I'll log in, and it crashes at the splash screen, with crazy artifacts all over the place
[11:06] <ubuntu> I'm using a live cd righ tnow
[11:10] <Ash-Fox> !ati
[11:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:10] <RawSewage> Qt: 3.3.6
[11:10] <RawSewage> KDE: 3.5.3
[11:10] <RawSewage> kde-config: 1.0
[11:14] <dave_forthhack> Hi, first time on a irc with a couple of xubuntu queries
[11:14] <RawSewage> Xubuntu?
[11:14] <dave_forthhack> yep
[11:14] <RawSewage> did you try #Xubuntu
[11:15] <dave_forthhack> Yep you are right - did I mention this was my first time :)
[11:15] <RawSewage> lol
[11:15] <dave_forthhack> I will head on over !
[11:15] <ubuntu> I'm having trouble using kubuntu :(
[11:15] <ubuntu> I haven't been able to use it yet without the live cd
[11:15] <thompa> runaway process catcher said both kicker and artsd are casuing problems
[11:16] <ubuntu> I'll boot up into kubuntu, sign in, and it crashes on the splash screen with crazy artifacts everywhere
[11:17] <ubuntu> i had to do the text based install
[11:17] <ubuntu> but I can't use it
[11:17] <Bizzy> i have to do that every time
[11:19] <dave_forthhack> Shucks - no one at Xubuntu - OK a Kubuntu query -
[11:19] <RawSewage> ubuntu, do you have Dapper
[11:19] <Bizzy> dapper refuses to bring up a gui installer for me
[11:19] <dave_forthhack> anyone have trouble with the konqueror bookmark toolbar keep on appearing ?
[11:19] <Bizzy> or bring up any gui at all
[11:19] <RawSewage> Bizzy, its inside the live, on the desktop
[11:20] <dave_forthhack> even though I keep turning it off - it re-appears.
[11:20] <Bizzy> RawSewage: <Bizzy> or bring up any gui at all
[11:20] <ChefWill> anyone use a different IM client then gaim or kopete? (for AIM/yahoo mainly)
[11:20] <RawSewage> ok
[11:20] <Bizzy> i dont get the desktop im supposed to do
[11:20] <RawSewage> dave_forthhack, get it how you want it, then save the session
[11:20] <Bizzy> i know HOW to get the desktop now
[11:20] <Bizzy> bug
[11:20] <Bizzy> but
[11:20] <RawSewage> Settings -  Save View Profile
[11:21] <Bizzy> its not nice having to do that messing about, especialy since kubuntu is supposed to be easy to set up
[11:21] <dave_forthhack> Still seems to revert. It will stay OK for a while then ping - its back
[11:21] <RawSewage> dave_forthhack, for your Xubuntu question, maybe you could try #XFCE too
[11:21] <dave_forthhack> good idea
[11:21] <RawSewage> dave_forthhack, theres 2 types of sessions for Konq:  web and file management
[11:22] <RawSewage> maybe one of those has toolbar
[11:22] <RawSewage> I mean 2 types of default sessions
[11:22] <dave_forthhack> I did not realise, I will do some experimenting and get back. In mean time I will look at #xfce
[11:22] <RawSewage> ok
[11:23] <RawSewage> Bizzy, doesnt the installed from inside the live CD work?
[11:23] <RawSewage> installer
[11:23] <Bizzy> RawSewage: it does when i actualy get a desktop
[11:23] <Bizzy> and it doesnt just give me command line
[11:23] <Howitzer> how do i run .py programs?
[11:23] <usp8riot> anyone know how to uninstall a program installed with apt-get?
[11:23] <sotired> my sound in all of my games has stopped working. can someone help me to troubleshoot this?
[11:24] <sotired> it works on the desktop
[11:24] <Howitzer> i tried python hello.py but gives me an 'invalid syntax error'
[11:24] <RawSewage> Howitzer, maybe right click it and make the file executable
[11:24] <Howitzer> oh
[11:24] <Howitzer> chmod +x ?
[11:24] <RawSewage> maybe
[11:25] <RawSewage> for Hello World, probably better to run it in a terminal
[11:25] <Howitzer> i did
[11:25] <RawSewage> and now you know everything I do about Python
[11:25] <RawSewage> paste the code
[11:26] <RawSewage> I can probably tell you the error
[11:26] <RawSewage> !paste
[11:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:26] <Howitzer> print "Hello, World!'
[11:26] <RawSewage> " and '
[11:26] <Howitzer> oh
[11:26] <RawSewage> mixed type
[11:26] <Howitzer> typo there
[11:26] <sotired> anybody?
[11:27] <Howitzer> it's correct in the, the python interactive mode just printed it
[11:27] <RawSewage> is that the whole thing?
[11:27] <usp8riot> sotired: in all the games? what games specifically?
[11:28] <sotired> legends, warsow,
[11:28] <Howitzer> oh god
[11:28] <sotired> chromium plays *some* sounds
[11:28] <Howitzer> i just skipped 4 sections in the python guide, no wonder i did the wrong thing -_-
[11:28] <RawSewage> lol
[11:29] <sotired> they all worked when i installed them
[11:29] <Ashex> where is the kde theme manager located?
[11:29] <sotired> kcontrol
[11:29] <Ashex> I installed it but I can't find it for the life of me
[11:29] <sotired> ashex:kcontrol
[11:29] <Ashex> is that the same as the system settings window?
[11:30] <sotired> no
[11:30] <Ashex> bleh
[11:30] <RawSewage> Ashex, I add this to my KMenu
[11:30] <sotired> usp8riot: any idea?
[11:30] <Ashex> where's kontrol located in the start menu?
[11:30] <RawSewage> Add Settings to your KMenu
[11:30] <dj_baggio> Forza Italia :)
[11:30] <usp8riot> sotired: have you tried to change the sound engine, ie, alsa, oss? sorry, i'm a noob, wish i could help more
[11:30] <sotired> no...type kcontrol
[11:30] <RawSewage> Settings is better
[11:30] <sotired> i tried all that with no luck
[11:31] <RawSewage> Ashex, do you know how to add Settings to your KMenu
[11:31] <Ashex> yeah
[11:31] <RawSewage> the Theme Manager is in one of the submenus
[11:31] <Ashex> with kde menu editor
[11:31] <RawSewage> you dont have to open a whole window with all settings
[11:32] <RawSewage> nice menus and submenus in the KMenu
[11:32] <Ashex> bleh, I'm not finding the theme manager
[11:32] <RawSewage> did you add Settings
[11:33] <Ashex> there is one in the system settings window, but that only accepts login thmes
[11:33] <z00m_> how do i install flash for the amd64 version of kubuntu
[11:33] <RawSewage> apparently not
[11:33] <Ashex> when you say add settings
[11:33] <RawSewage> No
[11:33] <Ashex> do you mean add an item with Kontrol as the command?
[11:33] <RawSewage> Add Settings to the Menu
[11:33] <RawSewage> go to that window where you edit panels
[11:34] <RawSewage> theres a tab called Menus
[11:34] <RawSewage> check Settings
[11:34] <ricardo> Algum aqui fala portugus?
[11:35] <gioacchino> hello
[11:35] <gioacchino> I have a problem..
[11:35] <gioacchino> how to login with root ?
[11:35] <RawSewage> hehe
[11:35] <ricardo> Excuse-me. I'm don't speak english.
[11:35] <Ashex> gioacchino, Root is disabled in ubuntu
[11:36] <Ashex> you use sudo to perform actions as root
[11:36] <gioacchino> Ashex: how to able it?
[11:36] <RawSewage> Ashex, couldnt you find it?  Im telling you
[11:36] <gioacchino> ricardo io sono italiano..
[11:36] <RawSewage> it works good
[11:36] <Ashex> RawSewage, I can't find it for the life of me :/
[11:36] <Ashex> I go into the kde menu editor, since that's the only app I have for editing the menu
[11:36] <gioacchino> I have a problem with wine
[11:36] <RawSewage> Right click the taskbar and Configure Panel
[11:37] <Ashex> gioacchino, it's best to stick with using sudo
[11:37] <Ashex> !tell gioacchino about root
[11:37] <RawSewage> select MEnus
[11:37] <ricardo> Italiano? Beleza. Parabns pelo ttulo.
[11:37] <gioacchino> from root shell it tell : dispalay problem
[11:37] <ricardo> Habilitar root
[11:37] <ricardo> sudo passwd
[11:37] <ricardo> Informe senha.
[11:37] <gioacchino> from user shell it work but the installer dont work because it dont have the permission
[11:38] <Ashex> RawSewage, ah, I see it now
[11:38] <ricardo> Habilita o root, gioacchino.
[11:38] <RawSewage> what installer
[11:38] <RawSewage> Ashex, ok good
[11:38] <gioacchino> xml spy
[11:39] <Ashex> RawSewage, I figured it out, thanks!
[11:39] <RawSewage> Ashex, I dont know why it's not in the menu by default
[11:39] <gioacchino> riacardo parli italiano ?
[11:40] <gioacchino> on site of xml spy it tell : it work with wine on radhat
[11:40] <usp8riot> anyone know how to uninstall a program?
[11:40] <RawSewage> usp8riot, how was it installed
[11:41] <TehUni> i want to add a monitor, but not be able to use a cursor on it. basically, it's a screen for my mythtv frontend, so i want it basically detatched from the user. Any way to do this?
[11:41] <Ashex> RawSewage, for a theme to take effect, do i need to restart X?
[11:41] <gatekeeper> usp8riot: apt-get remove --purge <package name>
[11:41] <RawSewage> Ashex, I dont think so
[11:41] <gatekeeper> usp8riot: or use your GUI pacakage manager
[11:41] <gioacchino> http://www.altova.com/support_platforms.html
[11:41] <RawSewage> Ashex, I never could figure out themes.  Seems like every theme has a different install method, and it takes like 20 steps to do
[11:42] <usp8riot> ok, thanks. i tried apt-remove and apt-uninstall, i forgot
[11:42] <gatekeeper> usp8riot: nearly :-)
[11:42] <RawSewage> I did get Embassy theme installed though.  I like that one
[11:42] <gioacchino> usp8riot: apt-get remove         apt-get install
[11:43] <RawSewage> gray, minimal
[11:43] <gioacchino> hei
[11:43] <gioacchino> http://www.altova.com/support_platforms.html
[11:43] <gioacchino> it tell : it work with wine...
[11:44] <RawSewage> Kubuntu needs a universal Theme Installer one-click program
[11:44] <erov> anyone else use Konq and have CSS rendering problems
[11:44] <RawSewage> a program that can make sense of all the diff packages, like icons, styles, etc
[11:44] <gatekeeper> !screen > gatekeeper
[11:44] <RawSewage> erov, what kind of problems
[11:44] <erov> the bugs list seemed to suggest it was my font
[11:44] <erov> www.digg.com for one
[11:45] <RawSewage> erov, maybe install that Microsoft fonts pack
[11:45] <erov> it's NOT my font as far as I can tell.. and it's not 75dpi as someone suggested
[11:45] <erov> teh Deja Vu sans etc ?
[11:45] <z00m_> gatekeeper: hi hows it going, can you help me out with a small task here, im trying to install flash player for kubuntu flash for my web browser.
[11:45] <erov> teh/the
[11:45] <RawSewage> !msfonts
[11:45] <ubotu> fonts is Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, gsfonts-x11 - Microsoft fonts: install the msttcorefonts package
[11:45] <Howitzer> i'm following this Python guide and there is this thing that isn't explained.. : print "You may pass,", s ([11:45] <RawSewage> I think the msttcorefonts
[11:45] <erov> alright.. let me see
[11:45] <erov> i have the gsfonts.. i know
[11:46] <RawSewage> install the msttcorefonts package
[11:46] <gatekeeper> z00m_: nice to hear from you hang on...
[11:46] <z00m_> ok ;)
[11:46] <kane_> Howitzer: the comma is for delimiting the parameters to the print statement
[11:46] <erov> thats still pretty f'ed up   ;)
[11:46] <kane_> Howitzer: print a,b == print(a,b)
[11:46] <Howitzer> ooooh
[11:46] <erov> if this does work
[11:47] <kane_> Howitzer: also, in python, the , adds a space automatically between a and b
[11:47] <gatekeeper> z00m_: tried this? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[11:47] <Howitzer> it's a seperator then?
[11:47] <kane_> Howitzer: yes, sortof
[11:47] <Howitzer> ah, thanks
[11:47] <Howitzer> funny i get an answer here 5 times faster then in Python
[11:47] <z00m_> thanks gatekeeper
[11:48] <RawSewage> erov, I just went to Digg.com   All I see is the header logo
[11:48] <RawSewage> and I already have msttcorefonts installed
[11:48] <gatekeeper> z00m_: you are welcome got some usefull links on my little home page that you might find helpfull http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[11:49] <erov> if you have the ad filter enabled with konq it does that now.. ever since they revamped the site it's 1) conflicted with the default ad filters 2) if not filtered, the text titles are misaligned
[11:49] <erov> to the left a little
[11:49] <RawSewage> erov, I figured it out
[11:49] <RawSewage> nm
[11:50] <erov> and i just installed those fonts.. do i have to make those fonts "default" in my browser? i still dont see why this would make the text lign up incorrectly.. just about every other site continues to work fine and this only started when they did the new layout
[11:50] <usp8riot> i use the segoeUI font for everything, it's the prettiest ; ). anyone recommend a different font that looks good?
[11:50] <erov> i suggested it was a rendering bug to the kde bugs list but the few that did reply said no
[11:50] <omeow> I didn't have to install fonts to get digg.com to show up...
[11:50] <erov> omeow: mine shows up, nearly fine.. i just have a problem with the text being aligned to the left (the titles of topics and such)
[11:51] <erov> it obscures the first or first few letters some times.. just an annoyance really.. but was wondering if anyone else experiences this in Konq
[11:51] <RawSewage> erov,  you dont have to do anything else with the fonts
[11:51] <z00m_> gatekeeper: added to bookmarks, just tryed the link for the ubuntuguide.org, my apt-get install does not find flashplugin :(    i think it might be because i have the amd64 version of kubuntu
[11:51] <RawSewage> erov, but reboot X
[11:51] <erov> alright.. be back
[11:52] <usp8riot> erov: i have that problem in windows
[11:52] <omeow> erov: No problems here. I use Opera 9.
[11:52] <gatekeeper> z00m_: I keep forgetting you are amd64 sorry
[11:52] <darkaudit> hmm... installed Real Player, and the license agreement is blank
[11:52] <erov> yes other browsers work fine, Flock, Mozilla, etc. I just wonder if it's a KHTML bug
[11:52] <omeow> darkaudit: Are you using adept?
[11:52] <z00m_> yeah its no problem :P
[11:52] <gatekeeper> z00m_: hmm let me have a think
[11:52] <erov> in Konqueror.. that was my question
[11:52] <omeow> darkaudit: If yes, then it's a known adept bug.
[11:52] <darkaudit> used apt-get per the ubuntuguide page
[11:53] <darkaudit> installed the package last night, but this is the first time I've run it
[11:53] <darkaudit> but I've been using adept most of the rest of the time, yes
[11:53] <D4m4ge> hello
[11:54] <darkaudit> installed kubuntu on my notebook during the first half of the WC finals... even easier to get set up than the desktop...
[11:54] <gatekeeper> z00m_: any of this make sence? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2283.html
[11:55] <gatekeeper> z00m_: isn't an amd64 repos with this in have you done a search in say synaptic?
[12:00] <gioacchino> how to close a exe open with wine ?
[12:00] <RawSewage> gioacchino, Ctrl+Esc
[12:01] <gioacchino>  clic on exit botton of application but it not are close..
[12:01] <RawSewage> shut Wine
[12:01] <z00m_> gatekeeper: yes tryed the synaptic its not there, just read the info on that link that you passed me and it does not look good, so far there is not an amd64 flash player + the 32 bit one does not work on this distro because the firefox browsers is 64bit addition
[12:01] <gatekeeper> z00m_: this suggests the same http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/64073-flashplugin-issue.html
[12:02] <zorgluuu> cygwin + qemu makes window usable
[12:02] <zorgluuu> im happy :)
[12:02] <gatekeeper> z00m_: there also looks like there is a bug in as it doesn't seem to be building
[12:02] <gioacchino> I have a problem with wine
[12:02] <RawSewage> gioacchino, Ctrl+Esc
[12:02] <RawSewage> shut Wine
[12:03] <gioacchino> yes I have shut win
[12:03] <gatekeeper> z00m_: no way to install 32 bit stuff?
[12:03] <gioacchino> I have a problem with wine with xml spy setup
[12:03] <gioacchino> the gui of setup run
[12:03] <z00m_> not sure think you need to have a 32bit emu or something, i read something about it before because i was trying to get wine working also
[12:04] <usp8riot> to use wine do you have to install the windows program or can it play it when installed on windows?
[12:04] <RawSewage> gioacchino, which version
[12:04] <gioacchino> but when it tell preparing istallation  wizard it crash...
[12:04] <gioacchino> xml spy 2006 professional
[12:04] <RawSewage> which version of XMLSpy
[12:04] <RawSewage> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=505
[12:04] <gioacchino> it autokill..
[12:04] <RawSewage> I dont see 2006
[12:05] <gatekeeper> z00m_: could you install a 32 bit version of firefox and use say 64bit mozzila browser or opera or something like that to get round it?
[12:05] <z00m_> gatekeeper:i even tryed to nano the ./flashplayer-installer i changed the x86 | x86_64 so it bypassed the check when running the bash script it says its installed but it will not play any flash
[12:06] <gioacchino> http://www.altova.com/support_platforms.html
[12:06] <RawSewage> I guess yo have to use Wine  20041019
[12:06] <RawSewage> oh sorry
[12:06] <RawSewage> Wine 20030115.
[12:07] <RawSewage> you need the correct version of Wine
[12:07] <gioacchino> Wine 0.9.9
[12:07] <RawSewage> you have to use 20030115
[12:07] <RawSewage> not later
[12:07] <gioacchino> how to install the correct version??
[12:07] <RawSewage> that exact one
[12:07] <RawSewage> idk