| crimsun | I would use, directly, the debian/rules KSRC=... example. | 12:07 |
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| crimsun | granted, I do presume you've selected the drivers using ``dpkg-reconfigure lirc-modules-source'' | 12:08 |
| andrewski | ugh... no, i haven't. O_o that wasn't in the instructions. | 12:08 |
| andrewski | unless i missed something glaring? | 12:08 |
| crimsun | it's step #3 in the make-kpkg scenario | 12:09 |
| andrewski | ah, ok. i stopped reading those when you said not to use them. :-P | 12:10 |
| andrewski | so i need to do that first before proceeding with the other set? | 12:11 |
| crimsun | I would do execute dpkg-reconfigure immediately after installing lirc-modules-source | 12:11 |
| andrewski | k | 12:11 |
| andrewski | when i install linux-source, i have to manually unzip the source bz2? | 12:14 |
| imbrandon | ok crimsun , attached build log to bug 52343 , anything else you see i should do ? | 12:17 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 52343 in kbfx "[ backport ] kbfx 0.4.9.1+0.4.9.2rc1 from edgy to dapper-backports" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/52343 | 12:17 |
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| andrewski | crimsun: i'm still having a spot of trouble compiling these drivers. i couldn't dpkg-reconfigure to recognize my /usr/src/linux directory until i symlinked linux-2.6.15 and followed the make-kpkg instructions, but then it complained about not having loadable module support enabled in the kernel. :( i'm rather lost. | 12:25 |
| crimsun | andrewski: do you have linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed? | 12:26 |
| andrewski | um... no. damn, i feel like such a fool! | 12:27 |
| andrewski | crimsun: ok, so when i do "make config dep", do i just follow the defaults? i haven't been up on kernel config'ing in years. | 12:28 |
| crimsun | andrewski: you shouldn't have to ``make config dep'' at all | 12:29 |
| andrewski | so i can skip straight to step 3? | 12:29 |
| crimsun | 3 being the dpkg-reconfigure? | 12:31 |
| crimsun | you don't need the make-kpkg scenario, remember? | 12:31 |
| andrewski | right, but there's only one other scenario in the README. | 12:32 |
| crimsun | which is the good one | 12:32 |
| andrewski | i don't feel like i have a hard time following directions, but these ones seem really screwy and scattered. i'm following those, but dpkg-reconfigure has a different story to tell, and you're mentioning things that aren't in either. :-/ | 12:33 |
| andrewski | so i'm in dpkg-reconfigure and am asking it to try and build the drivers, but it's coming up with an error. | 12:33 |
| andrewski | same "loadable module support" problem as before. | 12:34 |
| crimsun | even with ``debian/rules binary-modules KSRC=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build''? | 12:35 |
| andrewski | i'm not even through the dpkg-reconfigure yet... which is the first thing i should do, right? | 12:36 |
| andrewski | because that's where i'm getting the error. | 12:36 |
| crimsun | if you've chosen the drivers already and are offered the choice to have them compiled for you, choose no | 12:37 |
| andrewski | ok | 12:37 |
| andrewski | so now i'm done with d-r l-m-s and i can run the debian/rules command? | 12:38 |
| crimsun | the one above, yes | 12:38 |
| andrewski | "bash: debian/rules: No such file or directory" | 12:38 |
| andrewski | n/m | 12:39 |
| crimsun | you're in /usr/src/modules/lirc*, correct? | 12:39 |
| andrewski | now i am ;) | 12:39 |
| andrewski | ok, i have the package built and installed. phew! that's it? i can continue with the lirc instructions? | 12:40 |
| crimsun | well, you just install the generated deb | 12:43 |
| crimsun | after that you're pretty much finished. | 12:43 |
| andrewski | right, done. but why does "modprobe -l | grep lirc" give me nothing? | 12:44 |
| crimsun | I presume you have to load them? | 12:44 |
| crimsun | after installing the generated deb | 12:45 |
| andrewski | right... but the ones i need aren't installed with the package, i.e. lirc_mceusb2 | 12:45 |
| andrewski | *one | 12:45 |
| andrewski | was that not installed from the package from MoM? | 12:46 |
| crimsun | was it listed in dpkg-reconfigure? | 12:46 |
| andrewski | no | 12:46 |
| andrewski | i selected all of them just to be sure | 12:46 |
| crimsun | pastebin ``dpkg -L lirc-module\*'' | 12:47 |
| crimsun | argh | 12:47 |
| crimsun | substitute the correct package name | 12:47 |
| andrewski | http://pastebin.ca/82790 | 12:50 |
| crimsun | the generated deb | 12:51 |
| andrewski | that was the second set. | 12:51 |
| crimsun | (I'm too used to alsa-source -> alsa-module\* ) | 12:51 |
| Toadstool | grah! I'm trying to merge ghemical but it's heavily broken since upstream made huge modifications in libghemical and hasn't released a new ghemical version yet... | 12:52 |
| crimsun | hmm. | 12:52 |
| crimsun | how many ../../*irc-modules-*.deb were generated? | 12:55 |
| andrewski | one | 12:55 |
| andrewski | lirc-modules-2.6.15-25-686_0.8.0-0ubuntu1+Custom.1.00_i386.deb | 12:55 |
| crimsun | hm. looks like SUBDIRS is not being propagated properly | 12:58 |
| andrewski | i'm not sure what that means. | 12:58 |
| crimsun | can you debian/rules clean and regenerate the modules, being sure to have a build log? | 12:58 |
| andrewski | how do i do that? :-/ | 12:58 |
| andrewski | i.e. regenerating with a build log | 12:59 |
| crimsun | you can use typescript | 01:00 |
| crimsun | script(1) on Debian systems | 01:00 |
| andrewski | so "script -c dpkg-reconfigure lirc-modules-source"? | 01:01 |
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| crimsun | quote the command, but yes | 01:04 |
| crimsun | offline, work | 01:04 |
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| Toadstool | anyone who wants to upload a merge for me? (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2650) | 01:11 |
| andrewski | crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/82808 | 01:15 |
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| andrewski | crimsun: is it maybe a problem because it's built with "--with-driver=userspace"? | 01:50 |
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| bddebian | Oh so now LaserJock is taking my merges too, sweet | 02:08 |
| bddebian | :-) | 02:08 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: whatever | 02:15 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Care to take the rest? :-) | 02:17 |
| LaserJock | no, go ahead, we just need to make sure we aren't stepping on each other's toes :-) | 02:18 |
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| LaserJock | any MOTUs want a break from merging? I've got a very quick review I'd like done | 02:28 |
| LaserJock | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2649 | 02:29 |
| hub | is CC-BY-SA dfsg compliant? | 02:32 |
| hub | just making sure | 02:32 |
| hub | btw doc in GPL makes no sense | 02:32 |
| hub | GFDL, sure | 02:32 |
| LaserJock | hub: well, actually most Debian docs are GPL and GFDL only recently became DFSG free | 02:34 |
| LaserJock | I'm not quite sure about CC-BY-SA but the doc team uses it | 02:35 |
| hub | I think it is ok | 02:35 |
| hub | just wanted to make sure | 02:35 |
| hub | again GPL for documentation does not really make sense | 02:35 |
| hub | it is not code | 02:35 |
| LaserJock | right | 02:35 |
| hub | just saying | 02:35 |
| LaserJock | but it is often used | 02:35 |
| LaserJock | so .. | 02:35 |
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| LaserJock | the Packaging Guide is GPL so that we can use Debian documentation | 02:36 |
| LaserJock | I find it weird for sure when reading the GPL, it has lots of "software" and "program" references | 02:36 |
| hub | that is my point | 02:38 |
| hub | but you didn't make the doc or license | 02:38 |
| hub | so it does not really matter | 02:38 |
| LaserJock | well, for the Packaging Guide I did | 02:39 |
| LaserJock | but I would of done GFDL if it wasn't for Debian | 02:39 |
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| Hobbsee | morning all | 03:00 |
| DarkMageZ | is there a target for there to be no .la files in ubuntu? i've just had 2 really bad days because of inconsistency... | 03:01 |
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| Hobbsee | hi imbrandon | 03:03 |
| imbrandon | heya Hobbsee | 03:04 |
| bddebian | Heya Hobbsee | 03:06 |
| Hobbsee | hi bddebian | 03:06 |
| Hawkwind | Hey there imbrandon bddebian and Hobbsee | 03:07 |
| imbrandon | heya Hawkwind | 03:07 |
| imbrandon | heya bddebian brb afk | 03:07 |
| sharms | this must be a love day | 03:08 |
| Hobbsee | hi Hawkwind | 03:11 |
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| Hobbsee | just not for you :P | 03:11 |
| bddebian | Hi Hawkwind, imbrandon | 03:12 |
| sharms | hi Hawkwind , imbrandon, Hobbsee :) | 03:12 |
| imbrandon | heh | 03:12 |
| Hawkwind | Hah | 03:12 |
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| Hawkwind | Hey there sharms | 03:12 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: BTW, just about any package on the merge pages with my name on them I almost have done except for maxima and a couple others that have some other build deps that are broken/missing | 03:12 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: so we shouldnt steal them? right. | 03:14 |
| bddebian | Hobbsee: You can if you want, just trying to avoid duplicate work :-) | 03:20 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: yeah, that makes snese :P | 03:20 |
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| Plug | Hi all | 03:34 |
| Plug | I'm having a go at building the PPTP plugins for NetworkManager | 03:35 |
| Plug | it's trying to link against libXrender.la, which I read was dropped by Debian some time ago | 03:35 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: I see, so you're actually trying to merge the ones you did last time, smart :-) | 03:36 |
| bddebian | Plug: Known problem | 03:36 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Well that's what I was told to do :-) | 03:36 |
| slomo | Plug: do you use the non-official xgl repository? the libcairo2-dev in there is broken... just remove -L/usr/lib/libXcursor.la from /usr/lib/libcairo.la and add -lXcursor there | 03:37 |
| Plug | With the package, or the build method? Is there something I can change in my configure.ac etc to fix it? | 03:37 |
| Plug | slomo: sounds promising | 03:37 |
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| slomo | gn8 everybody | 03:39 |
| Plug | slomo: goodnight, thanks, that fixed me up! | 03:39 |
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| crimsun | andrewski: no idea, haven't investigated | 04:21 |
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| crimsun | Toadstool: uploaded. | 04:26 |
| bddebian | Is there ever a good reason that a .init script reload/restart would do a --start twice? | 04:32 |
| crimsun | semantically, no. | 04:33 |
| bddebian | I didn't think so but the syntax looks all jacked up | 04:33 |
| crimsun | bddebian: do you have an /etc/udev/scripts/ in Dapper? | 04:34 |
| crimsun | (completely unrelated question) | 04:35 |
| bddebian | Nope, no scripts dir | 04:35 |
| crimsun | thanks. | 04:35 |
| bddebian | NP | 04:35 |
| bddebian | http://pastebin.us/1204 <-- in Dapper I changed the first --start to --stop. Does that seem correct? | 04:36 |
| Plug | it does to me | 04:37 |
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| crimsun | bddebian: yes. | 04:39 |
| crimsun | that's an odd bug to have in a maintainer script. Someone should be shot. | 04:39 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Well they haven't fixed in the last few releases either. I'll send it up | 04:44 |
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| bddebian | OK one other question | 04:45 |
| bddebian | Are these two functionally equivalent? | 04:48 |
| bddebian | http://pastebin.us/1205 | 04:48 |
| crimsun | yes. | 04:50 |
| bddebian | Thanks crimsun | 04:50 |
| crimsun | np | 04:51 |
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| dotwaffle | Hey, anyone awake I can bounce an idea off? | 04:52 |
| crimsun | shoot. | 04:53 |
| dotwaffle | Cheers. [writes long paragraph] | 04:53 |
| dotwaffle | I've got a laptop, and a workstation/server, and I manually keep the home directories syncd through rsync, I was wondering if there was anything in the pipeline to make this into a feature that average joe can use, or whether it was worth me developing a GUI that did it for people, so that they could keep computers syncd. NOT nfs, as that requires a persistant connection, I'm talking about syncing for the purpose of poratble computers. | 04:54 |
| crimsun | coda, which last I checked, was removed from mainline. | 04:55 |
| tseng | or ifolder, or unison, or ... | 04:55 |
| dotwaffle | Coda is relatively advanced, for power users, I was thinking of a system that someone could use as a novice user, new to Linux, to keep their laptop and home computer syncd. | 04:55 |
| tseng | if a gui would scratch your own itch don't let us stop you | 04:55 |
| crimsun | iFolder sounds/looks promising. | 04:56 |
| dotwaffle | tseng: I've got my own solution, but I've had to write it myself, I was just wondering if it was a feature that could be integrated that did all the hard work for the suer. | 04:56 |
| tseng | I use rdiff-backup | 04:56 |
| tseng | you can all use whatever you want | 04:56 |
| tseng | there are many tools in this space | 04:57 |
| dotwaffle | iFolder does sound good, but it doesn't migrate settings etc, you'd have to set the iFolder as your home dir. | 04:57 |
| dotwaffle | I use rsync-backup, yeah. | 04:57 |
| tseng | I said rdiff | 04:57 |
| dotwaffle | rdiff-backup? Not heard of it, will have to look into it... | 04:57 |
| tseng | if you want to write a gui, go ahead | 04:58 |
| tseng | if you dont need one, don't do it | 04:58 |
| tseng | thats what it is all about | 04:58 |
| dotwaffle | _I_ don't need one, I just thought it might plug a hole, and whether the MOTU were planning anything like that for Edgy etc... | 04:58 |
| dotwaffle | Just asking :) | 04:58 |
| tseng | "the MOTU" doesnt develop new software | 04:58 |
| dotwaffle | Anyway, think I'm barking up the wrong tree, never mind, sorry for disturbing you :) | 04:59 |
| bddebian | tseng: We don't? :-) | 04:59 |
| tseng | I think you are.. | 04:59 |
| tseng | if you don't have a use for a program, we cant justify your writing it to you | 04:59 |
| tseng | :) | 04:59 |
| dotwaffle | from ubuntu-devel: #ubuntu-motu for getting into development... | 04:59 |
| tseng | bddebian: not in the scope of the group. | 04:59 |
| dotwaffle | tseng: Fair enough - suppose I ought to just get on with it, if it's any good, maybe one of the distro maintainers will pick it up... | 05:00 |
| tseng | dotwaffle: "getting into packaging" is lost on alot of people | 05:00 |
| bddebian | heh | 05:00 |
| tseng | dotwaffle: so "development" stands.. it isnt really about new code here | 05:00 |
| dotwaffle | Think the statement needs to be clarified then ;) Sorry again, go back to sleep ;) | 05:01 |
| tseng | the topic is unfortunately too large already | 05:01 |
| bddebian | zzzzZZZZ | 05:01 |
| dotwaffle | =) Ok. Night guys. | 05:02 |
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| bddebian | Gnight dot | 05:02 |
| tseng | have a nice night | 05:02 |
| bddebian | err | 05:02 |
| tseng | er. | 05:02 |
| tseng | ok then | 05:02 |
| tseng | back to beating on bddebian | 05:02 |
| bddebian | :'-( | 05:02 |
| tseng | you like it | 05:02 |
| bddebian | Whip me harder | 05:03 |
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| tseng | yay futurama | 05:06 |
| bddebian | The Big Give-Back? | 05:07 |
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| crimsun | "rebuilding world". Probably won't happen until X.Org is completed, but that's just a hunch. | 05:10 |
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| bddebian | Ah | 05:14 |
| tseng | i thought we would just rebuild FTBFS | 05:14 |
| tseng | and see what sticks | 05:14 |
| tseng | i usually dont seem to know what is going on, though | 05:15 |
| bddebian | tseng: Me either, obviously :-) | 05:23 |
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| crimsun | sorry? pfft. I feel for the buildds. | 05:50 |
| bddebian | Hehe | 05:50 |
| bddebian | True enough | 05:50 |
| bddebian | But I am submitting lots of sync requests too :-) | 05:51 |
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| bddebian | Gnight folks | 07:07 |
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| imbrandon | crimsun, just seeing who's alive ? heh | 08:21 |
| crimsun | no, I'm becoming rather fed up with the user community. | 08:21 |
| imbrandon | ahh | 08:21 |
| imbrandon | any reason in particular ? | 08:21 |
| crimsun | lots, but that's off-topic. | 08:22 |
| imbrandon | true true, maybe some other time when you feel like spoutin off ;) | 08:22 |
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| tritium | hey crimsun, you left in such a hurry. | 08:35 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all | 08:36 |
| tritium | hi Hobbsee | 08:36 |
| crimsun | tritium: hi. | 08:37 |
| Hobbsee | hi tritium, crimsun | 08:37 |
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| === Hobbsee thuds on the ground. | ||
| Hobbsee | thanks, StevenK! | 08:39 |
| === StevenK chuckles. | ||
| StevenK | My pleasure. | 08:39 |
| imbrandon | moins Hobbsee | 08:41 |
| Hobbsee | hi imbrandon | 08:41 |
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| StevenK | Ow! | 08:41 |
| StevenK | I'd ask 'What did I ever do to you?', but I know the answer. | 08:42 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 08:42 |
| cypher1 | how do i mention cdrom in pbuilder sources | 08:47 |
| cypher1 | is not using apt-cdrom add sufficient ? | 08:47 |
| Hobbsee | cypher1: a) why do you want to? b) it should have copied when you copied your sources.list over | 08:49 |
| cypher1 | Hobbsee, i am still struggling with the pbuilder create for around 7th time... so thought instead of from web can i copy it from the breezy install cd :) | 08:50 |
| Hobbsee | cypher1: ah, right. | 08:51 |
| cypher1 | i do see the cdrom in sources.list but the download always goes to the mirror | 08:51 |
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| Toadstool | 'morning | 09:00 |
| Hobbsee | hi Toadstool | 09:01 |
| Toadstool | hi Hobbsee | 09:01 |
| crimsun | Toadstool: I uploaded spread some hours ago. | 09:01 |
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| Toadstool | crimsun: thanks | 09:03 |
| crimsun | np | 09:03 |
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| AnAnt | I got a problem with debian/rules, may someone help me ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17487 | 09:10 |
| AnAnt | I can't understand why pbuilder attempts to make debian/build-nokde for a second time, although it did 'touch debian/build-nokde' the first time ? | 09:10 |
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| AnAnt | nevermind ! it worked ! :) | 09:44 |
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| zakame | hi all | 10:17 |
| Toadstool | hey zakame | 10:18 |
| zakame | hi Toadstool | 10:20 |
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| Lathiat | ss | 10:28 |
| zakame | heya Lathiat | 10:29 |
| crimsun | oh boy, time to enable $CRACK_OPTIONS | 10:29 |
| imbrandon | crimsun, ? | 10:31 |
| crimsun | beating these wishlist bugs to a senseless pulp. | 10:31 |
| imbrandon | ahh ;) | 10:31 |
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| Toadstool | er, I'm merging usbmount. Dapper has 0.0.14ubuntu1 and sid 0.0.14-0.1 but dpkg --compare-versions says 0.0.14ubuntu1 > 0.0.14-0.1... | 10:36 |
| zakame | whoa, native to non-native packaging format? | 10:37 |
| Toadstool | yeah | 10:37 |
| crimsun | Toadstool: you're stuck, just as I am. | 10:38 |
| Toadstool | nice | 10:38 |
| crimsun | hand-merge the -0.1 changes into 0.0.14ubuntu2. | 10:38 |
| crimsun | (see apt-proxy for a livid example) | 10:38 |
| Toadstool | ok, I'll do that | 10:39 |
| zakame | ro you just merge as usual and do a dch -e and s/search/destroy/ | 10:39 |
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| zakame | heh, blame jvw | 10:40 |
| Toadstool | yeah :) | 10:40 |
| crimsun | woo, ftbfs with $CRACK_OPTIONS | 10:40 |
| crimsun | rejecting the heck outta that bug. | 10:40 |
| zakame | that should've been 0.0.14.1 | 10:40 |
| zakame | hmm CAM::PDF looks great | 10:45 |
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| Toadstool | crimsun: heh "thanks, poor versioning!" in debian/changelog for apt-proxy :) | 10:54 |
| crimsun | :) | 10:55 |
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| Toadstool | et voil, usbmount ready for upload at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2654 | 11:12 |
| zakame | great | 11:13 |
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| G0SUB | slomo: ping | 11:36 |
| slomo | hi G0SUB | 11:36 |
| G0SUB | slomo: hello! | 11:36 |
| G0SUB | slomo: it seems quinn has fixed his package, re. the Xrender issue | 11:36 |
| zakame | hi G0SUB | 11:36 |
| G0SUB | slomo: now it uses only -lXrender in the cairo package | 11:36 |
| G0SUB | zakame: hello :) | 11:37 |
| sivang | hey G0SUB | 11:37 |
| slomo | G0SUB: cool :) | 11:37 |
| sivang | zakame, et al | 11:37 |
| zakame | heya sivang | 11:38 |
| G0SUB | sivang: hello sire :) | 11:38 |
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| Seveas | irvin, pong | 12:21 |
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| tseng | crimsun: hey, do your urxvt fonts look like crap now also? | 12:25 |
| crimsun | tseng: no, but I'm using -lite, which lacks Xft support | 12:26 |
| tseng | oh. | 12:26 |
| crimsun | tseng: probably due to libfreetype "transition" | 12:27 |
| tseng | right | 12:27 |
| crimsun | and should be magically fixed when the world is rebuilt | 12:27 |
| slomo | tseng: if the gnome font settings thing also sets general xft settings try other font rendering modes | 12:27 |
| slomo | tseng: at least that fixed this in gnome-terminal for me | 12:27 |
| tseng | gnome stuff looks ok | 12:27 |
| slomo | i only had weird fonts in gnome-terminal and firefox and setting the font rendering mode to "best contrast" fixed it for me | 12:28 |
| tseng | i am using ephy now | 12:29 |
| tseng | looks fine | 12:29 |
| slomo | ok *shrug* :) | 12:30 |
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| tseng | someone should upload my change to debian | 12:32 |
| crimsun | bluefoxicy: sorry, gtk2 in wxwindows2.4 is a no-go due to libfreetype and gcc4.1 | 12:33 |
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| Amaranth | i thought we had 2.6? | 12:37 |
| crimsun | Amaranth: that's wxwidgets2.6. | 12:39 |
| Amaranth | they aren't compatible? | 12:39 |
| crimsun | John filed a wishlist bug asking for gtk2+unicode support to be enabled in wxwindows2.4 | 12:40 |
| Amaranth | i see tons of things that depend on 2.4 so i guess not | 12:40 |
| crimsun | it's an utter ftbfs | 12:40 |
| Amaranth | heh | 12:40 |
| Amaranth | i thought gtk2 support in 2.4 sucked anyway | 12:40 |
| crimsun | it does. quite horribly. | 12:40 |
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| sivang | morning folks | 12:59 |
| jsgotangco | hello sivang | 01:00 |
| sivang | hey jsgotangco , what's up? | 01:02 |
| jsgotangco | just arrived home after eating some greasy food outside =) | 01:02 |
| jsgotangco | best thing to do on a sunday heh | 01:03 |
| sivang | jsgotangco: right | 01:04 |
| sivang | :) | 01:04 |
| cypher1 | Err http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages | 01:09 |
| cypher1 | Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages - open (2 No such file or directory) | 01:09 |
| cypher1 | can anyone please tell me what am i supposed to do for this ? | 01:09 |
| uniq | was this a apt-get update? | 01:23 |
| uniq | well.. have to go. bye. | 01:24 |
| tseng | it sounds more like he added a new source | 01:24 |
| tseng | then tried to use apt w/o doing apt-get update | 01:24 |
| tseng | but what do i know | 01:24 |
| uniq | that's what i was thinking of too. | 01:24 |
| uniq | but sometimes apt can give weird errors if you add two similar source lines to sources.list. | 01:25 |
| uniq | anyway.. have to go. bye. | 01:25 |
| cypher1 | tseng, i did apt-get update | 01:37 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all | 01:56 |
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| G0SUB | How do I request a backport? | 02:37 |
| G0SUB | is it ok to file a bug report against dapper-backport? | 02:37 |
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| siretart | G0SUB: yes | 02:52 |
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| Hobbsee | hi siretart | 02:56 |
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| siretart | huhu Hobbsee | 03:00 |
| === Hobbsee is going thru a very long and mostly depreciated list. scary. | ||
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| kelmo | hi siretart | 03:14 |
| siretart | heyho kelmo | 03:15 |
| kelmo | siretart: are you subscribed to the wpasupplicant PTS, and if so, have you recieved any commit notifications? | 03:18 |
| siretart | I don't remember seeing any commit notifications | 03:18 |
| siretart | I think the svn up hasn't been setup | 03:18 |
| kelmo | siretart: well, i set it up | 03:18 |
| kelmo | siretart: but can only get it to send directly to me, not the way its supposed to be . . . | 03:19 |
| kelmo | siretart: (and a minor cock up where a notification was sent to the wrong list!) | 03:19 |
| siretart | kelmo: ah, there is an extra pts hook you need to subscribe, if you want every commit notification | 03:19 |
| kelmo | siretart: aaah, ok will read about that | 03:20 |
| siretart | on the other hand, I am subscribed there | 03:21 |
| siretart | hmm | 03:21 |
| kelmo | siretart: buxy looked over the configuration on my behalf, and said it looked fine | 03:21 |
| kelmo | siretart: so i am stumped . . . | 03:21 |
| siretart | uh. hm | 03:22 |
| siretart | I never did that either.. | 03:22 |
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| andyjeffries | My app requires a .la (it uses autoconf/automake) but apparently ubuntu devs are removing .la files from packages. Can anyone help me change it so it doesn't need them in future? | 03:37 |
| siretart | andyjeffries: install the -dev package | 03:41 |
| andyjeffries | I have, it's libXrender.la I'm referring to, but that's not included in the -dev package (see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57443&page=2) | 03:41 |
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| cbx33 | hey people, need a little advice? | 03:44 |
| cbx33 | when you're coding | 03:44 |
| cbx33 | and you have all your source in one directory | 03:44 |
| mukund | don't type rm -f * ? | 03:45 |
| cbx33 | how do you handle the fact that those files won't be in that exact location when the deb is installed | 03:45 |
| cbx33 | ? | 03:45 |
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| cbx33 | symlinks? | 03:49 |
| Hobbsee | how does one go about requesting a sync for somethign that builds fine in debian testing? | 03:53 |
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| sivang | Hobbsee: I'd say file a syn bug, and subscribe ubuntu archive to that | 03:58 |
| Hobbsee | sivang: ok, cool, thanks. even from etch, not sid? | 03:59 |
| Toadstool | Hobbsee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources <-- Syncs ;) | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | Toadstool: thanks. i had no mouse at the time :P | 04:01 |
| Toadstool | :) | 04:02 |
| Hobbsee | Toadstool: and do i need to get a MOTU to approve it? | 04:02 |
| Toadstool | a MOTU will have to confirm it, that's what happened when I asked the wide-dhcpv6 sync | 04:03 |
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| Toadstool | er, ask for, even | 04:04 |
| Hobbsee | Toadstool: right, would you like to confirm this for me please? :P | 04:06 |
| Hobbsee | you knew i was going to ask that, didnt you, hehe? | 04:06 |
| Toadstool | yeah :) | 04:07 |
| Hobbsee | Toadstool: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/52433 | 04:07 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 52433 in Ubuntu "Please Sync Kionjb 0.1.6-4 from Debian experimental" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] | 04:07 |
| Hobbsee | Toadstool: thankyou :) | 04:07 |
| === Hobbsee really should go for MOTU sometime. | ||
| === Toadstool too :p | ||
| Hobbsee | Toadstool: you arent a MOTU? | 04:07 |
| Toadstool | nope | 04:07 |
| Hobbsee | pretty stupid to get you to ack that, then. | 04:07 |
| === Hobbsee looks around for a MOTU. | ||
| Toadstool | I thought you were kidding when you first asked :p | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | Toadstool: i thought you were a MOTU :P | 04:08 |
| === Hobbsee might just poke StevenK about it later. he'll do it, with enough coercian :P | ||
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| Toadstool | sync from experimental? nice ^^ | 04:09 |
| Gloubiboulga | Hobbsee, it's a new package in ubuntu? | 04:10 |
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: yes | 04:10 |
| Hobbsee | Toadstool: it got requested months ago, and seems to work fine. | 04:10 |
| Gloubiboulga | Hobbsee, testing the build | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: thanks :) | 04:15 |
| === Yagisan waves hello | ||
| Gloubiboulga | hello Yagisan | 04:15 |
| Yagisan | good to see todays dapper updates all 404 o_O | 04:16 |
| Hobbsee | hi Yagisan | 04:16 |
| Toadstool | hey Yagisan | 04:17 |
| Yagisan | Gloubiboulga, Hobbsee, Toadstool, evening all. | 04:17 |
| === Yagisan is configuring his Ubuntu box to pretend it is a Windows box | ||
| Yagisan | Uni starts today, and it checks to see if you are using Windows. | 04:18 |
| Toadstool | how do they do? OS fingerprinting with nmap and so on? | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | um, if i've got 4 sets of icons, all different colours of the same design, should i package them separately, or in one big package? | 04:18 |
| Yagisan | Toadstool: not that sophisticated, just a few version strings | 04:19 |
| Toadstool | oh, easy then ;) | 04:20 |
| Yagisan | <sarcasm>ah nice</sarcasm>. they use java plugins. | 04:21 |
| === Yagisan is off to put the kids to bed | ||
| Gloubiboulga | Hobbsee, how can I test this package? | 04:25 |
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| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: in a pbuilder? however you usually test edgy packages. | 04:25 |
| cyberix | Why didn't quake3 make it to Dapper? | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | cyberix: because no one updated it? | 04:26 |
| Hobbsee | is it even GPL'd? | 04:26 |
| cyberix | The engine is, but I was still waiting for it to be in multiverse. | 04:26 |
| Gloubiboulga | Hobbsee, it's installed in an edgy chroot, but it's a lib, with what is it supposed to work? | 04:26 |
| Gloubiboulga | I'm not really familiar with KDE/Qt ;) | 04:27 |
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| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: er, good point. you'd have to test that thru konqueror, i expect, if you had the correct mp3 player in question. | 04:28 |
| Gloubiboulga | ok, so I can't test :p | 04:28 |
| === Hobbsee wonders where her brain fizzled off to | ||
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: yes, so it seems. well, you can test that it's installable, but no further | 04:29 |
| Gloubiboulga | I guess you've tested it | 04:29 |
| === Hobbsee doenst have the correct MP3 player | ||
| Hobbsee | it got requested a while ago, so i checked if it was buildable and installable, which it is. | 04:29 |
| Gloubiboulga | It builds/installs fine, I guess it should work | 04:29 |
| Gloubiboulga | ok, I confirm the bug then | 04:29 |
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| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: yeah, exactly. going to subscribe the archive while you're at it please? | 04:30 |
| Hobbsee | if not, i'll go find where the bug was :P | 04:30 |
| Gloubiboulga | all done | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: thankyou :) | 04:31 |
| Gloubiboulga | np :) | 04:31 |
| webben | Hello, I'm trying to find someone who would help me package a (potential) fix for https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/50797# | 04:31 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 50797 in sudo "sudo built with --with-secure-path is problematic" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] | 04:31 |
| Gloubiboulga | I'm suscribing to the bug too, maybe the archive team needs more infos for a NEW package | 04:31 |
| webben | Apparently sudo doesn't use dpatch so this a complex case | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: true | 04:32 |
| webben | i've got a diff of changes | 04:32 |
| webben | (I'm also looking for someone who might be able to test whether my patch messes up sudo-ldap... i don't have the knowledge or resources to find that out) | 04:33 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: quake3 source GPL, data not. | 04:34 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: ah right | 04:34 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt play such games. | ||
| Hobbsee | much. | 04:34 |
| Gloubiboulga | yeah, Hobbsee only plays with packages :p | 04:34 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 04:35 |
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: no, i dont go to school anymore, which is where i tended to play such games, across the school network :P | 04:35 |
| Gloubiboulga | hehe | 04:35 |
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| Yagisan | Hobbsee: you need to play doomsday - we busted network code, so it's single player at the moment | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | maybe one day | 04:36 |
| === Hobbsee is very very bad at such games. | ||
| === Yagisan to | ||
| Yagisan | yet I still try | 04:42 |
| Yagisan | heh, when it's ready, perhaps you can sponser it Hobbsee | 04:42 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 04:42 |
| Hobbsee | yeah right. | 04:42 |
| webben | Hmm ... no takers for packaging up a diff for sudo? | 04:44 |
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| kelmo | siretart: ok, commit messages are working, thanks for the tip (or else i'd never have known) | 05:00 |
| toma | what needs to be done for .ui files to expend to .h and .cpp automatically? When I hand build the tarball they are created, but when using debuild they are not created. | 05:02 |
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| zakame | hi | 05:29 |
| zakame | Hobbsee: got your msg, thanks | 05:29 |
| Hobbsee | zakame: :) | 05:29 |
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| bluefoxicy | crimsun: damn. Ah well, not much uses wxW2.4. | 05:33 |
| \sh | moin | 05:35 |
| Hobbsee | hi \sh | 05:35 |
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| toma | ok, the header file is in the obj-i486-bla folder. How do include that in a source file then? | 05:36 |
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| kelmo | siretart: hostapd has been prepared ;-) | 05:47 |
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| siretart | kelmo: cool! | 05:49 |
| siretart | close.. ;) | 05:49 |
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| webben | Maybe someone could talk me through packaging my sudo fix? I've been told it's complex because it doesn't use dpatch? | 06:16 |
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| AnAnt | is the password on REVU the same as the one in launchpad ? | 06:43 |
| AnAnt | or not necessarily the same ? | 06:43 |
| Gloubiboulga | AnAnt, it's not the same | 06:43 |
| AnAnt | Gloubiboulga: how do I know my REVU password ? | 06:44 |
| Gloubiboulga | log in without passwd and use the 'recover' link | 06:44 |
| AnAnt | Gloubiboulga: ok, thanks | 06:45 |
| Gloubiboulga | you'll have to decrypt it with your gpg key | 06:45 |
| AnAnt | ok | 06:46 |
| AnAnt | done | 06:46 |
| AnAnt | thanks | 06:46 |
| Gloubiboulga | np | 06:47 |
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| AnAnt | I request that the following uploads be removed: vim, mldonkey , tor, p7zip | 06:48 |
| AnAnt | does one advocate for his own upload ? | 06:50 |
| Gloubiboulga | nop | 06:51 |
| Gloubiboulga | only MOTUs who review advocate | 06:51 |
| AnAnt | how can I add a comment in REVU ? it seems I can only add comments to my old uploads not the recent one ! | 06:52 |
| AnAnt | nevermind, it worked | 06:53 |
| AnAnt | can't I change my password ? | 06:56 |
| tseng | nope. | 06:56 |
| AnAnt | ok | 06:57 |
| AnAnt | thanks for the help | 06:57 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 08:54 |
| Gloubiboulga | hello bddebian | 08:58 |
| bddebian | Hi Gloubiboulga | 08:58 |
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| theneb | hi, anyone know how to get commercial software onto the commercial repository? | 10:15 |
| cyberix | theneb: Maybe you can tell me what it is? | 10:19 |
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| theneb | www.720games.com | 10:19 |
| theneb | Blocster | 10:19 |
| theneb | Linux version is nearly ready, runs on SDL libs | 10:19 |
| cyberix | theneb: I was just wondering how it works. | 10:19 |
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| cyberix | theneb: How can they have a repository, if they are commercial? | 10:20 |
| theneb | http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/08/introducing-the-dapper-commercial-repository/ | 10:20 |
| cyberix | thanks | 10:20 |
| cyberix | So whats the difference with multiverse? | 10:22 |
| theneb | I'm not exactly sure, I'm just wondering how to get onto it | 10:22 |
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| cyberix | I used to think software is commercial only, if you pay for it. | 10:23 |
| theneb | ah right | 10:24 |
| theneb | so the use there is a bit different? | 10:24 |
| cyberix | I have no idea | 10:24 |
| theneb | cheers for your help anyway | 10:24 |
| cyberix | I'm just wondering | 10:25 |
| cyberix | Maybe someone can answer better | 10:25 |
| theneb | the game without buying it is a demo | 10:25 |
| cyberix | I do understand what you're asking. | 10:27 |
| cyberix | I just don't know how this new repository should work. | 10:27 |
| theneb | that's cool | 10:27 |
| sharms | to clarify the new repository has no connection to ubuntu | 10:30 |
| sharms | it is a canonical only project | 10:30 |
| cyberix | If I understood correctly | 10:30 |
| sharms | so if you need a package included, you need to make arrangements with them | 10:30 |
| cyberix | dapper-commercial is a Canonical thing. Not an Ubuntu thing. | 10:31 |
| sharms | as it is not a community affair | 10:31 |
| cyberix | So you'll probably contact Canonical | 10:31 |
| theneb | thanks for the clarity guys | 10:31 |
| cyberix | have to | 10:31 |
| Amaranth | dapper-commercial is things canonical got special rights to redistribute, i guess | 10:31 |
| sharms | I was testing a hostname bug, and was able to confirm it, and now I cant change my hostname back. You guys know another way to use sudo? all I get is: sudo: unable to lookup bobvila via gethostbyname() | 10:35 |
| bddebian | OK, wtf do I do about attal? The source tarball extracts to attal-src-0.10.1 ? | 10:35 |
| sivang | I hope nobody minds if I take the merge of etherape? | 10:37 |
| bddebian | sivang: Who uploaded it last? | 10:37 |
| sivang | bddebian: ivoks | 10:37 |
| bddebian | Hmm, I doubt it but it might be considerate just to let him know | 10:38 |
| sivang | If only he came online .. | 10:38 |
| bddebian | Damnit where's crimsun when I need him? :) | 10:39 |
| sivang | Amaranth: where was the dapper-commercial repo announced ? | 10:41 |
| Amaranth | was it? | 10:41 |
| Amaranth | i saw it in a meeting | 10:41 |
| Amaranth | there is http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2006/07/06/02/ | 10:42 |
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| sivang | slomo_: it seems that ubuntu universe maintainer introduced a patch system... | 11:15 |
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| sivang | slomo_: dpath | 11:15 |
| sivang | dpatch | 11:15 |
| slomo_ | happens sometimes :) | 11:15 |
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| sivang | should I leave it with the patch system, or merge changes (desktop file, use gksudo instead of gksu) and drop the patch system? | 11:17 |
| slomo_ | the latter | 11:18 |
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| sharms | is there a way to search the wiki for changes I have made? | 11:21 |
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