[12:07] I would use, directly, the debian/rules KSRC=... example. [12:08] granted, I do presume you've selected the drivers using ``dpkg-reconfigure lirc-modules-source'' [12:08] ugh... no, i haven't. O_o that wasn't in the instructions. [12:08] unless i missed something glaring? [12:09] it's step #3 in the make-kpkg scenario [12:10] ah, ok. i stopped reading those when you said not to use them. :-P [12:11] so i need to do that first before proceeding with the other set? [12:11] I would do execute dpkg-reconfigure immediately after installing lirc-modules-source [12:11] k [12:14] when i install linux-source, i have to manually unzip the source bz2? [12:17] ok crimsun , attached build log to bug 52343 , anything else you see i should do ? [12:17] Malone bug 52343 in kbfx "[ backport ] kbfx 0.4.9.1+0.4.9.2rc1 from edgy to dapper-backports" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/52343 === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] crimsun: i'm still having a spot of trouble compiling these drivers. i couldn't dpkg-reconfigure to recognize my /usr/src/linux directory until i symlinked linux-2.6.15 and followed the make-kpkg instructions, but then it complained about not having loadable module support enabled in the kernel. :( i'm rather lost. [12:26] andrewski: do you have linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed? [12:27] um... no. damn, i feel like such a fool! [12:28] crimsun: ok, so when i do "make config dep", do i just follow the defaults? i haven't been up on kernel config'ing in years. [12:29] andrewski: you shouldn't have to ``make config dep'' at all [12:29] so i can skip straight to step 3? [12:31] 3 being the dpkg-reconfigure? [12:31] you don't need the make-kpkg scenario, remember? [12:32] right, but there's only one other scenario in the README. [12:32] which is the good one [12:33] i don't feel like i have a hard time following directions, but these ones seem really screwy and scattered. i'm following those, but dpkg-reconfigure has a different story to tell, and you're mentioning things that aren't in either. :-/ [12:33] so i'm in dpkg-reconfigure and am asking it to try and build the drivers, but it's coming up with an error. [12:34] same "loadable module support" problem as before. [12:35] even with ``debian/rules binary-modules KSRC=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build''? [12:36] i'm not even through the dpkg-reconfigure yet... which is the first thing i should do, right? [12:36] because that's where i'm getting the error. [12:37] if you've chosen the drivers already and are offered the choice to have them compiled for you, choose no [12:37] ok [12:38] so now i'm done with d-r l-m-s and i can run the debian/rules command? [12:38] the one above, yes [12:38] "bash: debian/rules: No such file or directory" [12:39] n/m [12:39] you're in /usr/src/modules/lirc*, correct? [12:39] now i am ;) [12:40] ok, i have the package built and installed. phew! that's it? i can continue with the lirc instructions? [12:43] well, you just install the generated deb [12:43] after that you're pretty much finished. [12:44] right, done. but why does "modprobe -l | grep lirc" give me nothing? [12:44] I presume you have to load them? [12:45] after installing the generated deb [12:45] right... but the ones i need aren't installed with the package, i.e. lirc_mceusb2 [12:45] *one [12:46] was that not installed from the package from MoM? [12:46] was it listed in dpkg-reconfigure? [12:46] no [12:46] i selected all of them just to be sure [12:47] pastebin ``dpkg -L lirc-module\*'' [12:47] argh [12:47] substitute the correct package name [12:50] http://pastebin.ca/82790 [12:51] the generated deb [12:51] that was the second set. [12:51] (I'm too used to alsa-source -> alsa-module\* ) [12:52] grah! I'm trying to merge ghemical but it's heavily broken since upstream made huge modifications in libghemical and hasn't released a new ghemical version yet... [12:52] hmm. [12:55] how many ../../*irc-modules-*.deb were generated? [12:55] one [12:55] lirc-modules-2.6.15-25-686_0.8.0-0ubuntu1+Custom.1.00_i386.deb [12:58] hm. looks like SUBDIRS is not being propagated properly [12:58] i'm not sure what that means. [12:58] can you debian/rules clean and regenerate the modules, being sure to have a build log? [12:58] how do i do that? :-/ [12:59] i.e. regenerating with a build log [01:00] you can use typescript [01:00] script(1) on Debian systems [01:01] so "script -c dpkg-reconfigure lirc-modules-source"? === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:04] quote the command, but yes [01:04] offline, work === theCore [n=alex@modemcable240.218-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === duro [n=duro@216.230.150.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:11] anyone who wants to upload a merge for me? (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2650) [01:15] crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/82808 === duro is now known as Duro_De_Peinar === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === andrewski [n=andrewsk@c-68-83-71-99.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === andrewski [n=andrewsk@c-68-83-71-99.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === andrewski [n=andrewsk@c-68-83-71-99.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === andrewski [n=andrewsk@c-68-83-71-99.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === duro [n=duro@216.230.150.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:50] crimsun: is it maybe a problem because it's built with "--with-driver=userspace"? === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c211-28-181-26.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === duro is now known as Duro_De_Peinar [02:08] Oh so now LaserJock is taking my merges too, sweet [02:08] :-) [02:15] bddebian: whatever [02:17] LaserJock: Care to take the rest? :-) [02:18] no, go ahead, we just need to make sure we aren't stepping on each other's toes :-) === sharms [n=mindwarp@cpe-24-208-242-169.twmi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:28] any MOTUs want a break from merging? I've got a very quick review I'd like done [02:29] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2649 [02:32] is CC-BY-SA dfsg compliant? [02:32] just making sure [02:32] btw doc in GPL makes no sense [02:32] GFDL, sure [02:34] hub: well, actually most Debian docs are GPL and GFDL only recently became DFSG free [02:35] I'm not quite sure about CC-BY-SA but the doc team uses it [02:35] I think it is ok [02:35] just wanted to make sure [02:35] again GPL for documentation does not really make sense [02:35] it is not code [02:35] right [02:35] just saying [02:35] but it is often used [02:35] so .. === theCore [n=alex@modemcable240.218-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] the Packaging Guide is GPL so that we can use Debian documentation [02:36] I find it weird for sure when reading the GPL, it has lots of "software" and "program" references [02:38] that is my point [02:38] but you didn't make the doc or license [02:38] so it does not really matter [02:39] well, for the Packaging Guide I did [02:39] but I would of done GFDL if it wasn't for Debian === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@ppp44-202.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:00] morning all [03:01] is there a target for there to be no .la files in ubuntu? i've just had 2 really bad days because of inconsistency... === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:03] hi imbrandon [03:04] heya Hobbsee [03:06] Heya Hobbsee [03:06] hi bddebian [03:07] Hey there imbrandon bddebian and Hobbsee [03:07] heya Hawkwind [03:07] heya bddebian brb afk [03:08] this must be a love day [03:11] hi Hawkwind === Hobbsee hisses at sharms. [03:11] just not for you :P [03:12] Hi Hawkwind, imbrandon [03:12] hi Hawkwind , imbrandon, Hobbsee :) [03:12] heh [03:12] Hah === jrib [n=jasonr@AC950A13.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:12] Hey there sharms [03:12] LaserJock: BTW, just about any package on the merge pages with my name on them I almost have done except for maxima and a couple others that have some other build deps that are broken/missing [03:14] bddebian: so we shouldnt steal them? right. [03:20] Hobbsee: You can if you want, just trying to avoid duplicate work :-) [03:20] bddebian: yeah, that makes snese :P === Hobbsee is at work again today. === Plug [n=crb@itpartners.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:34] Hi all [03:35] I'm having a go at building the PPTP plugins for NetworkManager [03:35] it's trying to link against libXrender.la, which I read was dropped by Debian some time ago [03:36] bddebian: I see, so you're actually trying to merge the ones you did last time, smart :-) [03:36] Plug: Known problem [03:36] LaserJock: Well that's what I was told to do :-) [03:37] Plug: do you use the non-official xgl repository? the libcairo2-dev in there is broken... just remove -L/usr/lib/libXcursor.la from /usr/lib/libcairo.la and add -lXcursor there [03:37] With the package, or the build method? Is there something I can change in my configure.ac etc to fix it? [03:37] slomo: sounds promising === abelcheung__ [n=abelcheu@221.127.102.239] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:39] gn8 everybody [03:39] slomo: goodnight, thanks, that fixed me up! === theCore [n=alex@modemcable240.218-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar_ is now known as jaldhar === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-g4 [n=freeflyi@221.221.149.60] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _nicolas [n=nick@unaffiliated/nicktastic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:21] andrewski: no idea, haven't investigated === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-99-66.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:26] Toadstool: uploaded. [04:32] Is there ever a good reason that a .init script reload/restart would do a --start twice? [04:33] semantically, no. [04:33] I didn't think so but the syntax looks all jacked up [04:34] bddebian: do you have an /etc/udev/scripts/ in Dapper? [04:35] (completely unrelated question) [04:35] Nope, no scripts dir [04:35] thanks. [04:35] NP [04:36] http://pastebin.us/1204 <-- in Dapper I changed the first --start to --stop. Does that seem correct? [04:37] it does to me === nexu [n=nexu@a80-126-56-145.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-g4 [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:39] bddebian: yes. [04:39] that's an odd bug to have in a maintainer script. Someone should be shot. [04:44] crimsun: Well they haven't fixed in the last few releases either. I'll send it up === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:45] OK one other question [04:48] Are these two functionally equivalent? [04:48] http://pastebin.us/1205 [04:50] yes. [04:50] Thanks crimsun [04:51] np === dotwaffle [i=dotwaffl@silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] Hey, anyone awake I can bounce an idea off? [04:53] shoot. [04:53] Cheers. [writes long paragraph] [04:54] I've got a laptop, and a workstation/server, and I manually keep the home directories syncd through rsync, I was wondering if there was anything in the pipeline to make this into a feature that average joe can use, or whether it was worth me developing a GUI that did it for people, so that they could keep computers syncd. NOT nfs, as that requires a persistant connection, I'm talking about syncing for the purpose of poratble computers. [04:55] coda, which last I checked, was removed from mainline. [04:55] or ifolder, or unison, or ... [04:55] Coda is relatively advanced, for power users, I was thinking of a system that someone could use as a novice user, new to Linux, to keep their laptop and home computer syncd. [04:55] if a gui would scratch your own itch don't let us stop you [04:56] iFolder sounds/looks promising. [04:56] tseng: I've got my own solution, but I've had to write it myself, I was just wondering if it was a feature that could be integrated that did all the hard work for the suer. [04:56] I use rdiff-backup [04:56] you can all use whatever you want [04:57] there are many tools in this space [04:57] iFolder does sound good, but it doesn't migrate settings etc, you'd have to set the iFolder as your home dir. [04:57] I use rsync-backup, yeah. [04:57] I said rdiff [04:57] rdiff-backup? Not heard of it, will have to look into it... [04:58] if you want to write a gui, go ahead [04:58] if you dont need one, don't do it [04:58] thats what it is all about [04:58] _I_ don't need one, I just thought it might plug a hole, and whether the MOTU were planning anything like that for Edgy etc... [04:58] Just asking :) [04:58] "the MOTU" doesnt develop new software [04:59] Anyway, think I'm barking up the wrong tree, never mind, sorry for disturbing you :) [04:59] tseng: We don't? :-) [04:59] I think you are.. [04:59] if you don't have a use for a program, we cant justify your writing it to you [04:59] :) [04:59] from ubuntu-devel: #ubuntu-motu for getting into development... [04:59] bddebian: not in the scope of the group. [05:00] tseng: Fair enough - suppose I ought to just get on with it, if it's any good, maybe one of the distro maintainers will pick it up... [05:00] dotwaffle: "getting into packaging" is lost on alot of people [05:00] heh [05:00] dotwaffle: so "development" stands.. it isnt really about new code here [05:01] Think the statement needs to be clarified then ;) Sorry again, go back to sleep ;) [05:01] the topic is unfortunately too large already [05:01] zzzzZZZZ [05:02] =) Ok. Night guys. === dotwaffle [i=dotwaffl@silenceisdefeat.org] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:02] Gnight dot [05:02] have a nice night [05:02] err [05:02] er. [05:02] ok then [05:02] back to beating on bddebian [05:02] :'-( [05:02] you like it [05:03] Whip me harder === tseng waits for The Big Give-Back to make ubuntu-desktop installable again [05:06] yay futurama [05:07] The Big Give-Back? === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:10] "rebuilding world". Probably won't happen until X.Org is completed, but that's just a hunch. === nexu is now known as nexu|ET === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.127.101.161] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:14] Ah [05:14] i thought we would just rebuild FTBFS [05:14] and see what sticks [05:15] i usually dont seem to know what is going on, though [05:23] tseng: Me either, obviously :-) === nexu|ET is now known as nexu === mukund [n=mukund@62.3.217.116] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian feels sorry for Kamion/Keybuk [05:50] sorry? pfft. I feel for the buildds. [05:50] Hehe [05:50] True enough [05:51] But I am submitting lots of sync requests too :-) === abelcheung__ [n=abelcheu@221.126.146.171] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === polpak [n=polpak@ip68-6-43-90.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@ppp44-202.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === andrewski [n=andrewsk@c-68-83-71-99.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [07:07] Gnight folks === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Paradoxx [n=Paradoxx@port0030-afn-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher [n=cypher@59.92.141.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu === polpak [n=polpak@ip68-6-43-90.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:21] crimsun, just seeing who's alive ? heh [08:21] no, I'm becoming rather fed up with the user community. [08:21] ahh [08:21] any reason in particular ? [08:22] lots, but that's off-topic. [08:22] true true, maybe some other time when you feel like spoutin off ;) === imbrandon gets back to workin on somethin === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:35] hey crimsun, you left in such a hurry. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:36] hi all [08:36] hi Hobbsee [08:37] tritium: hi. [08:37] hi tritium, crimsun === StevenK jumps on Hobbsee. === Hobbsee thuds on the ground. [08:39] thanks, StevenK! === StevenK chuckles. [08:39] My pleasure. [08:41] moins Hobbsee [08:41] hi imbrandon === Hobbsee jabs StevenK with a long pointy stick repeatedly.. [08:41] Ow! [08:42] I'd ask 'What did I ever do to you?', but I know the answer. [08:42] haha [08:47] how do i mention cdrom in pbuilder sources [08:47] is not using apt-cdrom add sufficient ? [08:49] cypher1: a) why do you want to? b) it should have copied when you copied your sources.list over [08:50] Hobbsee, i am still struggling with the pbuilder create for around 7th time... so thought instead of from web can i copy it from the breezy install cd :) [08:51] cypher1: ah, right. [08:51] i do see the cdrom in sources.list but the download always goes to the mirror === selinium_ [n=selinium@80-193-7-120.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinium_ [n=selinium@80-193-7-120.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:00] 'morning [09:01] hi Toadstool [09:01] hi Hobbsee [09:01] Toadstool: I uploaded spread some hours ago. === AnAnt [n=anant@81.10.9.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:03] crimsun: thanks [09:03] np === highvoltage [n=jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:10] I got a problem with debian/rules, may someone help me ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17487 [09:10] I can't understand why pbuilder attempts to make debian/build-nokde for a second time, although it did 'touch debian/build-nokde' the first time ? === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.126.144.197] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dsas [n=dean@host86-129-19-59.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:44] nevermind ! it worked ! :) === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:17] hi all [10:18] hey zakame [10:20] hi Toadstool === AnAnt [n=anant@81.10.9.182] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [10:28] ss [10:29] heya Lathiat [10:29] oh boy, time to enable $CRACK_OPTIONS [10:31] crimsun, ? [10:31] beating these wishlist bugs to a senseless pulp. [10:31] ahh ;) === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:36] er, I'm merging usbmount. Dapper has 0.0.14ubuntu1 and sid 0.0.14-0.1 but dpkg --compare-versions says 0.0.14ubuntu1 > 0.0.14-0.1... [10:37] whoa, native to non-native packaging format? [10:37] yeah [10:38] Toadstool: you're stuck, just as I am. [10:38] nice [10:38] hand-merge the -0.1 changes into 0.0.14ubuntu2. [10:38] (see apt-proxy for a livid example) [10:39] ok, I'll do that [10:39] ro you just merge as usual and do a dch -e and s/search/destroy/ === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-255-103.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:40] heh, blame jvw [10:40] yeah :) [10:40] woo, ftbfs with $CRACK_OPTIONS [10:40] rejecting the heck outta that bug. [10:40] that should've been 0.0.14.1 [10:45] hmm CAM::PDF looks great === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-069-191.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-128-017.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung__ [n=abelcheu@221.126.146.76] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:54] crimsun: heh "thanks, poor versioning!" in debian/changelog for apt-proxy :) [10:55] :) === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-g4 [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@82.192.173.92] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:12] et voil, usbmount ready for upload at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2654 [11:13] great === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p50804BF7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TomaszD [n=tom@xdsl-2196.elblag.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@ppp44-202.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:36] slomo: ping [11:36] hi G0SUB [11:36] slomo: hello! [11:36] slomo: it seems quinn has fixed his package, re. the Xrender issue [11:36] hi G0SUB [11:36] slomo: now it uses only -lXrender in the cairo package [11:37] zakame: hello :) [11:37] hey G0SUB [11:37] G0SUB: cool :) [11:37] zakame, et al [11:38] heya sivang [11:38] sivang: hello sire :) === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:21] irvin, pong === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] crimsun: hey, do your urxvt fonts look like crap now also? [12:26] tseng: no, but I'm using -lite, which lacks Xft support [12:26] oh. [12:27] tseng: probably due to libfreetype "transition" [12:27] right [12:27] and should be magically fixed when the world is rebuilt [12:27] tseng: if the gnome font settings thing also sets general xft settings try other font rendering modes [12:27] tseng: at least that fixed this in gnome-terminal for me [12:27] gnome stuff looks ok [12:28] i only had weird fonts in gnome-terminal and firefox and setting the font rendering mode to "best contrast" fixed it for me [12:29] i am using ephy now [12:29] looks fine [12:30] ok *shrug* :) === tseng merges rrdtool [12:32] someone should upload my change to debian [12:33] bluefoxicy: sorry, gtk2 in wxwindows2.4 is a no-go due to libfreetype and gcc4.1 === TomaszD [n=tom@xdsl-2196.elblag.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:37] i thought we had 2.6? [12:39] Amaranth: that's wxwidgets2.6. [12:39] they aren't compatible? [12:40] John filed a wishlist bug asking for gtk2+unicode support to be enabled in wxwindows2.4 [12:40] i see tons of things that depend on 2.4 so i guess not [12:40] it's an utter ftbfs [12:40] heh [12:40] i thought gtk2 support in 2.4 sucked anyway [12:40] it does. quite horribly. === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:59] morning folks [01:00] hello sivang [01:02] hey jsgotangco , what's up? [01:02] just arrived home after eating some greasy food outside =) [01:03] best thing to do on a sunday heh [01:04] jsgotangco: right [01:04] :) [01:09] Err http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages [01:09] Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages - open (2 No such file or directory) [01:09] can anyone please tell me what am i supposed to do for this ? [01:23] was this a apt-get update? [01:24] well.. have to go. bye. [01:24] it sounds more like he added a new source [01:24] then tried to use apt w/o doing apt-get update [01:24] but what do i know [01:24] that's what i was thinking of too. [01:25] but sometimes apt can give weird errors if you add two similar source lines to sources.list. [01:25] anyway.. have to go. bye. [01:37] tseng, i did apt-get update === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:56] hi all === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@69.60.114.100] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === anibal_ [n=ams@CPE-60-224-176-117.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:37] How do I request a backport? [02:37] is it ok to file a bug report against dapper-backport? === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:52] G0SUB: yes === mukund [n=mukund@62.3.217.116] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:56] hi siretart === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.126.145.107] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:00] huhu Hobbsee === Hobbsee is going thru a very long and mostly depreciated list. scary. === Mithrandir [n=tfheen@c5100BC63.inet.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kelmo [n=kelmo@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:14] hi siretart [03:15] heyho kelmo [03:18] siretart: are you subscribed to the wpasupplicant PTS, and if so, have you recieved any commit notifications? [03:18] I don't remember seeing any commit notifications [03:18] I think the svn up hasn't been setup [03:18] siretart: well, i set it up [03:19] siretart: but can only get it to send directly to me, not the way its supposed to be . . . [03:19] siretart: (and a minor cock up where a notification was sent to the wrong list!) [03:19] kelmo: ah, there is an extra pts hook you need to subscribe, if you want every commit notification [03:20] siretart: aaah, ok will read about that [03:21] on the other hand, I am subscribed there [03:21] hmm [03:21] siretart: buxy looked over the configuration on my behalf, and said it looked fine [03:21] siretart: so i am stumped . . . [03:22] uh. hm [03:22] I never did that either.. === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TomaszD [n=tom@xdsl-2196.elblag.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === andyjeffries [n=andy@cpc1-stev2-0-0-cust285.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:37] My app requires a .la (it uses autoconf/automake) but apparently ubuntu devs are removing .la files from packages. Can anyone help me change it so it doesn't need them in future? [03:41] andyjeffries: install the -dev package [03:41] I have, it's libXrender.la I'm referring to, but that's not included in the -dev package (see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57443&page=2) === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:44] hey people, need a little advice? [03:44] when you're coding [03:44] and you have all your source in one directory [03:45] don't type rm -f * ? [03:45] how do you handle the fact that those files won't be in that exact location when the deb is installed [03:45] ? === highvoltage [n=jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:49] symlinks? [03:53] how does one go about requesting a sync for somethign that builds fine in debian testing? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:58] Hobbsee: I'd say file a syn bug, and subscribe ubuntu archive to that [03:59] sivang: ok, cool, thanks. even from etch, not sid? [04:00] Hobbsee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources <-- Syncs ;) [04:01] Toadstool: thanks. i had no mouse at the time :P [04:02] :) [04:02] Toadstool: and do i need to get a MOTU to approve it? [04:03] a MOTU will have to confirm it, that's what happened when I asked the wide-dhcpv6 sync === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:04] er, ask for, even [04:06] Toadstool: right, would you like to confirm this for me please? :P [04:06] you knew i was going to ask that, didnt you, hehe? [04:07] yeah :) [04:07] Toadstool: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/52433 [04:07] Malone bug 52433 in Ubuntu "Please Sync Kionjb 0.1.6-4 from Debian experimental" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] [04:07] Toadstool: thankyou :) === Hobbsee really should go for MOTU sometime. === Toadstool too :p [04:07] Toadstool: you arent a MOTU? [04:07] nope [04:07] pretty stupid to get you to ack that, then. === Hobbsee looks around for a MOTU. [04:08] I thought you were kidding when you first asked :p [04:08] Toadstool: i thought you were a MOTU :P === Hobbsee might just poke StevenK about it later. he'll do it, with enough coercian :P === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:09] sync from experimental? nice ^^ [04:10] Hobbsee, it's a new package in ubuntu? [04:10] Gloubiboulga: yes [04:10] Toadstool: it got requested months ago, and seems to work fine. [04:15] Hobbsee, testing the build [04:15] Gloubiboulga: thanks :) === Yagisan waves hello [04:15] hello Yagisan [04:16] good to see todays dapper updates all 404 o_O [04:16] hi Yagisan [04:17] hey Yagisan [04:17] Gloubiboulga, Hobbsee, Toadstool, evening all. === Yagisan is configuring his Ubuntu box to pretend it is a Windows box [04:18] Uni starts today, and it checks to see if you are using Windows. [04:18] how do they do? OS fingerprinting with nmap and so on? [04:18] um, if i've got 4 sets of icons, all different colours of the same design, should i package them separately, or in one big package? [04:19] Toadstool: not that sophisticated, just a few version strings [04:20] oh, easy then ;) [04:21] ah nice. they use java plugins. === Yagisan is off to put the kids to bed [04:25] Hobbsee, how can I test this package? === cyberix [n=cyberix@hoas-fe17dd00-69.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:25] Gloubiboulga: in a pbuilder? however you usually test edgy packages. [04:25] Why didn't quake3 make it to Dapper? [04:26] cyberix: because no one updated it? [04:26] is it even GPL'd? [04:26] The engine is, but I was still waiting for it to be in multiverse. [04:26] Hobbsee, it's installed in an edgy chroot, but it's a lib, with what is it supposed to work? [04:27] I'm not really familiar with KDE/Qt ;) === TomaszD [n=tom@xdsl-2196.elblag.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:28] Gloubiboulga: er, good point. you'd have to test that thru konqueror, i expect, if you had the correct mp3 player in question. [04:28] ok, so I can't test :p === Hobbsee wonders where her brain fizzled off to [04:29] Gloubiboulga: yes, so it seems. well, you can test that it's installable, but no further [04:29] I guess you've tested it === Hobbsee doenst have the correct MP3 player [04:29] it got requested a while ago, so i checked if it was buildable and installable, which it is. [04:29] It builds/installs fine, I guess it should work [04:29] ok, I confirm the bug then === webben [n=webben3@82.152.71.253] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:30] Gloubiboulga: yeah, exactly. going to subscribe the archive while you're at it please? [04:30] if not, i'll go find where the bug was :P [04:31] all done [04:31] Gloubiboulga: thankyou :) [04:31] np :) [04:31] Hello, I'm trying to find someone who would help me package a (potential) fix for https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/50797# [04:31] Malone bug 50797 in sudo "sudo built with --with-secure-path is problematic" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] [04:31] I'm suscribing to the bug too, maybe the archive team needs more infos for a NEW package [04:31] Apparently sudo doesn't use dpatch so this a complex case [04:32] Gloubiboulga: true [04:32] i've got a diff of changes [04:33] (I'm also looking for someone who might be able to test whether my patch messes up sudo-ldap... i don't have the knowledge or resources to find that out) [04:34] Hobbsee: quake3 source GPL, data not. [04:34] Yagisan: ah right === Hobbsee doesnt play such games. [04:34] much. [04:34] yeah, Hobbsee only plays with packages :p [04:35] heh [04:35] Gloubiboulga: no, i dont go to school anymore, which is where i tended to play such games, across the school network :P [04:35] hehe === abelcheung__ [n=abelcheu@221.126.154.187] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:36] Hobbsee: you need to play doomsday - we busted network code, so it's single player at the moment [04:36] heh [04:36] maybe one day === Hobbsee is very very bad at such games. === Yagisan to [04:42] yet I still try [04:42] heh, when it's ready, perhaps you can sponser it Hobbsee [04:42] haha [04:42] yeah right. [04:44] Hmm ... no takers for packaging up a diff for sudo? === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.153.131] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kelmo [n=kelmo@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:00] siretart: ok, commit messages are working, thanks for the tip (or else i'd never have known) [05:02] what needs to be done for .ui files to expend to .h and .cpp automatically? When I hand build the tarball they are created, but when using debuild they are not created. === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:29] hi [05:29] Hobbsee: got your msg, thanks [05:29] zakame: :) === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:33] crimsun: damn. Ah well, not much uses wxW2.4. [05:35] <\sh> moin [05:35] hi \sh === robitaille [i=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:36] ok, the header file is in the obj-i486-bla folder. How do include that in a source file then? === CarlF1 [n=carl@c-67-163-39-124.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:47] siretart: hostapd has been prepared ;-) === kelmo [n=kelmo@madwifi/support/kelmo] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Gone] [05:49] kelmo: cool! [05:49] close.. ;) === cassidy [n=cassidy@152-128.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === liviux [n=liviux@d83-187-202-54.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure_ [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === webben [n=webben3@82.152.71.253] has joined #ubuntu-motu === liviux [n=liviux@d83-187-202-54.cust.tele2.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:16] Maybe someone could talk me through packaging my sudo fix? I've been told it's complex because it doesn't use dpatch? === stratus [n=ubuntu@200217140088.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Assen [n=Assen@174-154.vf.cgocable.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Assen [n=Assen@174-154.vf.cgocable.ca] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.225.221] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:43] is the password on REVU the same as the one in launchpad ? [06:43] or not necessarily the same ? [06:43] AnAnt, it's not the same [06:44] Gloubiboulga: how do I know my REVU password ? [06:44] log in without passwd and use the 'recover' link [06:45] Gloubiboulga: ok, thanks [06:45] you'll have to decrypt it with your gpg key [06:46] ok [06:46] done [06:46] thanks [06:47] np === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-99-66.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:48] I request that the following uploads be removed: vim, mldonkey , tor, p7zip [06:50] does one advocate for his own upload ? [06:51] nop [06:51] only MOTUs who review advocate [06:52] how can I add a comment in REVU ? it seems I can only add comments to my old uploads not the recent one ! [06:53] nevermind, it worked [06:56] can't I change my password ? [06:56] nope. [06:57] ok [06:57] thanks for the help === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === [PUPPETS] Gonzo [i=gonzo@80.69.47.16] has joined #ubuntu-motu === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ooh,] === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@c-24-13-21-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyHat [n=funnyloo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:54] Heya gang [08:58] hello bddebian [08:58] Hi Gloubiboulga === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sharms [n=mindwarp@cpe-24-208-242-169.twmi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infamy [n=Infamy@CPE005004804d2e-CM014090207037.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infamy [n=Infamy@CPE005004804d2e-CM014090207037.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === theneb [n=theneb@host86-130-72-96.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:15] hi, anyone know how to get commercial software onto the commercial repository? [10:19] theneb: Maybe you can tell me what it is? === janc [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:19] www.720games.com [10:19] Blocster [10:19] Linux version is nearly ready, runs on SDL libs [10:19] theneb: I was just wondering how it works. === xophEr [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:20] theneb: How can they have a repository, if they are commercial? [10:20] http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/08/introducing-the-dapper-commercial-repository/ [10:20] thanks [10:22] So whats the difference with multiverse? [10:22] I'm not exactly sure, I'm just wondering how to get onto it === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:23] I used to think software is commercial only, if you pay for it. [10:24] ah right [10:24] so the use there is a bit different? [10:24] I have no idea [10:24] cheers for your help anyway [10:25] I'm just wondering [10:25] Maybe someone can answer better [10:25] the game without buying it is a demo [10:27] I do understand what you're asking. [10:27] I just don't know how this new repository should work. [10:27] that's cool [10:30] to clarify the new repository has no connection to ubuntu [10:30] it is a canonical only project [10:30] If I understood correctly [10:30] so if you need a package included, you need to make arrangements with them [10:31] dapper-commercial is a Canonical thing. Not an Ubuntu thing. [10:31] as it is not a community affair [10:31] So you'll probably contact Canonical [10:31] thanks for the clarity guys [10:31] have to [10:31] dapper-commercial is things canonical got special rights to redistribute, i guess [10:35] I was testing a hostname bug, and was able to confirm it, and now I cant change my hostname back. You guys know another way to use sudo? all I get is: sudo: unable to lookup bobvila via gethostbyname() [10:35] OK, wtf do I do about attal? The source tarball extracts to attal-src-0.10.1 ? [10:37] I hope nobody minds if I take the merge of etherape? [10:37] sivang: Who uploaded it last? [10:37] bddebian: ivoks [10:38] Hmm, I doubt it but it might be considerate just to let him know [10:38] If only he came online .. [10:39] Damnit where's crimsun when I need him? :) [10:41] Amaranth: where was the dapper-commercial repo announced ? [10:41] was it? [10:41] i saw it in a meeting [10:42] there is http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2006/07/06/02/ === sharms [n=mindwarp@cpe-24-208-242-169.twmi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@modemcable240.218-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === snedar [n=sander@ip503c2a37.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Paradoxx [n=Paradoxx@72.27.128.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=fowlduck@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem [n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ctd [i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-24-209-126-16.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu === whiprush [n=jorge@64.62.190.212] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [n=nblackb1@ringmaster.active-4.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nexu [n=nexu@a80-126-56-145.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@ubuntu/member/toadstool] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:15] slomo_: it seems that ubuntu universe maintainer introduced a patch system... === jmg [n=cartel@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:15] slomo_: dpath [11:15] dpatch [11:15] happens sometimes :) === xophEr [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sivang cries [11:17] should I leave it with the patch system, or merge changes (desktop file, use gksudo instead of gksu) and drop the patch system? [11:18] the latter === Hawkwind [n=SoS@linuxfordummies/Hawkwind] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU === sivang yays === mitsuhiko [n=blackb1r@ringmaster.active-4.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:21] is there a way to search the wiki for changes I have made? === CarlFK [n=carl@c-67-163-39-124.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lut1n [n=albin@lns-bzn-58-82-251-247-162.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lut1n [n=albin@lns-bzn-58-82-251-247-162.adsl.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["@+"]