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| Jeeves___ | Having a problem with mounted drives, | 11:39 |
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| Jeeves___ | on a server version | 11:40 |
| Jeeves___ | should I be in general support or here? | 11:40 |
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| Fjodor | Hi. Has anyone had a machine rebooting after grub, thus entering a cycle of reboots? | 01:28 |
| Fjodor | Anyone? | 02:04 |
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| infamy | is there any plans to make a webbased admin tool? | 09:47 |
| spike | ther are already loads, why another? | 09:55 |
| sharms | spike: how about list them for him rather than an unproductive response? | 09:56 |
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| harry666 | i have troubles installing 6.06 server with a compaq smartarray controller, install works but after reboot the kernel cannot boot from the smartarray | 10:02 |
| DJ_Mirage | spike. only good one I know which is open source is webmin, which is bloated | 10:02 |
| spike | sharms: how about different POV? to me, anybody saying "why not making a webbased admin tool", like any other tool, must have done researches andd know about others and their weaknesses | 10:08 |
| tsume | a webbased tool also opens up more insecurities | 10:09 |
| spike | FUD | 10:09 |
| spike | a webbased tool doesnt open anything is it's well done | 10:09 |
| spike | or rather, it opens sec probs as any other service | 10:09 |
| tsume | you're increasing vulnerability level by opening a server(http) and having a third party script run | 10:09 |
| tsume | right, well webmin is full of holes lie swiss cheese | 10:10 |
| spike | tou're incresing vulnerrabilities any time you dd anything to your system. sowhat? | 10:10 |
| spike | yes, it's known, and so what? there are many others besides webmin | 10:10 |
| tsume | a remote server tool(perhaps based on a RPC service) only opens up a server, less can go wrong. | 10:10 |
| tsume | spike: the only reason to go web based is convienence | 10:11 |
| spike | an admin panel hidden behind an htaccess is harmless | 10:11 |
| spike | and how convenience is a bad thing? | 10:11 |
| spike | and why convenience necessarily must be unsecure? | 10:11 |
| tsume | spike: its not a bad thing, it depends on the person | 10:11 |
| spike | 21:09:34 < tsume> a webbased tool also opens up more insecurities | 10:11 |
| tsume | I can out admin anyone stright from the command line however | 10:11 |
| spike | where's the person mentioned there? | 10:11 |
| spike | there you say that webbased tools adds insecurities | 10:12 |
| spike | now you say it depends on the person... and so what? a bad admin will make mistakes, a good one less. | 10:12 |
| spike | nothing to do with webbased applications | 10:12 |
| tsume | spike: its adding more which could go wrong, and you dono't know a web admin tool does everything correct. | 10:13 |
| spike | again, anything you add is something that can go wrong, and so what? | 10:13 |
| spike | and you dont know cause you dont know the app or the app is poorly written. a good app does everything correct | 10:13 |
| spike | again, FUD | 10:13 |
| spike | and even generic | 10:13 |
| spike | it's not at all related to webbased tools, just any app | 10:14 |
| spike | there's ebox as well, new product, very interesting | 10:14 |
| tsume | heh. my apps are perfect ;) :P | 10:14 |
| tsume | j/k :) | 10:14 |
| sharms | spike: it is quite apparent infamy did not do research | 10:17 |
| sharms | spike: and since the spirit of ubuntu is helping others, why not recommend a few you have found interesting | 10:17 |
| spike | sharms: if is indeed a lot of infamy not to do research. spirit of helping others has nothing to do with lazyness | 10:19 |
| spike | sharms: besides, I alredy did, named 3 already | 10:19 |
| tsume | hmm | 10:20 |
| tsume | has anyone started converting their products to use on ubuntu? | 10:20 |
| tsume | like DirectAdmin, etc.. | 10:20 |
| tsume | I know some of them are very proprietary to certain distros/OSes. | 10:20 |
| sharms | I was testing a hostname bug, and was able to confirm it, and now I cant change my hostname back. You guys know another way to use sudo? all I get is: sudo: unable to lookup bobvila via gethostbyname() | 10:35 |
| tsume | hmm | 10:40 |
| tsume | sudo works for me even if I didn't set my hostname correctly.. | 10:40 |
| tsume | hehe, I usually have two sudo bash shells open anyway :) | 10:40 |
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| infamy | sorry was away. and why i was asking if there was plans to make one just for ubuntu server, is that most of them out there lack polish and ease of use.. | 11:23 |
| infamy | and from what i know of using ubuntu it is all about ease of use | 11:23 |
| infamy | and sharm left.. i have done my research i use webadmin right now, tried and use linuxconf on another machine. also have a clarkconnect box that has a closed source admin panel that is really good.. | 11:30 |
| infamy | and i would NEVER put a box with a web admin panel on the net.. i use a vpn to get into my network. i just would rather it not take 10min to add a user to my server and create a share for them | 11:31 |
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