[12:01] <lucasvo> dash`: yes, rightclick on the ubuntu sign
[12:01] <lucasvo> depi: both? you do dualboot?
[12:01] <newbuntu> how can you chown multiple files?
[12:01] <depi> lucasvo: yeah
[12:01] <lucasvo> newbuntu: multiple files?
[12:01] <newbuntu> just add a space then a name?
[12:01] <lucasvo> with regex
[12:01] <dash`> ah, thanks
[12:01] <erUSUL> newbuntu: with the -r swhitch (recursive)
[12:01] <lucasvo> newbuntu: no, in that case it's *
[12:01] <tpg_> indeed barktpolar, but u know something to do here? ;p
[12:02] <newbuntu> You probably want to chown these to a system user:
[12:02] <newbuntu>    was the error
[12:02] <barktpolar> Play some games, make art in GIMP, type with Openoffice.org
[12:02] <lucasvo> newbuntu: chown -r lucas *
[12:02] <archetypo> so i have a spare linux box on the lan (dual proc 300, 640MB ram, 18GB free) what should i do with this thing?  dns caching, squid (enough mem?), svn repo?
[12:02] <cablesm102> When in KDE, Ubuntu detects when I close my notebook lid. GNOME, however, doesn't. Is there a package that will help me with this?
[12:02] <barktpolar> tpg_ what ubuntu are you using
[12:02] <lucas> lucasvo, :)
[12:02] <newbuntu> the lucas part is the file name?
[12:03] <lucasvo> archetypo: bittorrentsharing of ubuntu
[12:03] <lucasvo> lucas: ;)
[12:03] <tpg_> I just installed it, im now upgrading to 6.06 LTS
[12:03] <lucasvo> lucas: my rn is lucas and my linux user
[12:03] <barktpolar> Cool
[12:03] <barktpolar> I have dapper as well
[12:03] <lucasvo> archetypo: download them and leave the torrent program on
[12:03] <tpg_> but barktpolar, i just formatted my windows, u know if the sound works on Linux redhat 10?
[12:03] <Arokh> can anyone help me out with partitioning for ubuntu? I want to make the permanent switch from xp to ubuntu (no dual boot), so I imagine I can't use ntfs partitions right? whats the size limit on fat32?
[12:03] <lucasvo> archetypo: or turn the pc off and save power
[12:03] <barktpolar> IDK
[12:03] <barktpolar> I only use Ubuntu in Linux terms
[12:03] <archetypo> not a bad suggestion....my upstream is a little wonky tho sometimes
[12:04] <tpg_> IDK? whats that?
[12:04] <nielsm> Arokh: fat32 is only useful if you want to exchange files between linux and windows
[12:04] <lucasvo> !ntsf > Arokh
[12:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about ntsf
[12:04] <dreamcatcher5172> i have everything successfully configured now and my desktop looks oh so sweet.
[12:04] <nielsm> for linux you want to (need to!) use ext3 or reiserfs
[12:04] <dreamcatcher5172> ubuntu rules
[12:04] <lucasvo> !ntfs > Arokh
[12:04] <barktpolar> I gotta fix thsi soundcard prob, I want to use Gaim-vv
[12:04] <dreamcatcher5172> whats gaim-w
[12:04] <Luke> is anyone else getting 404's on archive.ubuntu.org?
[12:04] <dreamcatcher5172> i got gaim
[12:04] <tpg_> msn?
[12:04] <cablesm102> When in KDE, Ubuntu detects when I close my notebook lid. GNOME, however, doesn't. Is there a package that will help me with this? I really prefer GNOME.
[12:04] <tpg_> me too
[12:04] <bobo_> how do I unhidden a folder in ubuntu? my mp3 player doesnt recognise hidden folders....
[12:04] <Arokh> ok whats the size limit on a ext3 partition?
[12:05] <nielsm> Arokh: a few terabytes i believe
[12:05] <dreamcatcher5172> ext3 partitions can be pretty big i think
[12:05] <barktpolar> gaim-vv is Gaim with Voice and Video capabilities gaim-vv.sourceforge.net
[12:05] <Foobal> Arokh: most likely enough for your use? couple terabytes I'd guess
[12:05] <dreamcatcher5172> cool im gonna go check it out
[12:05] <spades> bobo_ rename it, its hidden because it starts with .name just rename to w/o .
[12:05] <sharms> I am looking for a good utility to create avi movies from my screen.  Suggestions?
[12:06] <Arokh> oh ok cool. Now my last question, i'm putting all my crap on a 200gb external hdd, which will be formatted with NTFS. can ubuntu mount that to read/write files for after everything is installed?
[12:06] <bobo_> well im trying to install rockbox on my iRiver H320... the folder needs to be named .rockbox
[12:06] <bobo_> ?\
[12:06] <cablesm102> Arokh, Ubuntu can read but not write NTFS
[12:06] <dreamcatcher5172> ok do you use the auto packages or the source install for gaim-w....
[12:06] <sharms> Arokh - Read yes, if you need to write to it use fat32
[12:06] <bobo_> because when I start the player. it says .rockbox directory not found
[12:06] <erUSUL> Arokh: not r/w sorry only ro
[12:06] <dreamcatcher5172> is the autopackages .deb files or something?
[12:06] <barktpolar> I downloaded just about everything with ALSA
[12:06] <mjr> Arokh, read yes, write no, recommend fat32 instead for bulk data storage if you need to access from various systems
[12:06] <barktpolar> but still I have no sound
[12:06] <spades> bobo_ rename to roxbox then 'ln -s roxbox .roxbox' to link it
[12:06] <dragon> this sux lol
[12:06] <barktpolar> and I can't access alsa-project.org
[12:06] <Arokh> hmm... i tried to get windows to format the 200gb in fat 32 but it didn't give me the option. I suppose I'd have to partition it in chunks to do that?
[12:07] <erUSUL> Arokh: if you are brave enough you can try ntfs-fuse
[12:07] <barktpolar> No autopackages and .deb packages are diff
[12:07] <Foobal> Arokh: you could use ext2fs too, both windows and linux can read and write it perfectly
[12:07] <archetypo> lucasvo that's prob the best suggestion...it's a sun ultra 2 enterprise so it's prolly sucking mroe power than the washing machien
[12:07] <Luke> is anyone else getting 404's on archive.ubuntu.org?
[12:07] <Arokh> or i could just xfer everything from the 200gb, repartition and format in fat32 after installation
[12:07] <Phopsy> Arokh: Use gParted to format in 200GB fat32
[12:07] <nielsm> arokh: use linux or a win98 bootdisk to create fat32 partitions greater than 32 gb
[12:07] <jpaisneto> why can't I join #ubuntu-pt?
[12:07] <gdb> Arokh: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q314463 - 32GB partition limit.
[12:07] <barktpolar> after downloading the autopackage, you have to change the permissions to 666 and then double-click and run it and follow the instructions
[12:08] <nielsm> win xp refuses to make large fat32 partitions, for no real reason (ither than making people use ntfs)
[12:08] <Phopsy> I have a problem getting my IrDA dongle to work, anyone dain to try and help me?
[12:08] <Bassetts> does anyone know why cd writing always fails with vmware installed?
[12:08] <Arokh> crap fat32 won't work anyway. I have a bunch of imported video from the camcorder, and the files are all like 13gb, says max file size on a fat32 partition is 4gb
[12:09] <Arokh> i'll just install ubuntu, copy everything over, nuke the 200gb and reformat with ext3
[12:09] <grimboy> Non journalized file systems = the sux0r
[12:09] <Phopsy> Arokh: Sounds like an excellent plan.
[12:09] <Arokh> now, in case my wife screams, and I need to go back to xp, you say I can read ext3 in xp or not?
[12:10] <gdb> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310525/EN-US/ - Better information on FAT32.
[12:10] <Foobal> I repeat: you can read and write ext2 in windows too. you can get driver from sf.net
[12:10] <lucasvo> Arokh: no you can't
[12:10] <lucasvo> afaik
[12:10] <grimboy> lucasvo, You can.
[12:10] <Foobal> that includes ext3 too but the journaling doesn't work.
[12:10] <gdb> Arokh: There is a free driver you can install on XP for it.  There was some guy in #ubuntu-offtopic talking about it the other night.
[12:10] <lucasvo> grimboy: really?
[12:10] <Warbo> Wow, that was weird. I just got disconnected and had to go through some nickname crap :(
[12:10] <erUSUL> Foobal: i heard that it is not very reliable...
[12:10] <sokuban> I always have two extra drives on automount, how would I set it so that those drives won't be on the desktop but other drives (such as a CD or smc) would be on the desktop when I put them in?
[12:11] <barktpolar> dial-up Warbo?
[12:11] <webben1> How do you list all _installed_ packages from the CLI?
[12:11] <gdb> The folks that were using it reported no issues.
[12:11] <Foobal> reusul: yeah, perhaps, if the ext2 code from linux kernel is not very reliable.. lol. because all that is around it are some light wrappers
[12:11] <Arokh> well i'll just install ubuntu for a few days before i mess with the stuff on the 200gb. if my wife is ok with it, then i'll start moving stuff
[12:11] <sokuban> webben1: try aptitude
[12:11] <Warbo> webben1: "dpkg -l" isn;t it?
[12:11] <gdb> webben1: dpkg -l or dpkg --get-selections | grep install
[12:11] <gdb> I prefer the latter because it gives more information about removed or purged packages.
[12:11] <Phopsy> I have a SigmaTel 4200 dongle, but no matter how hard I try I can't get it to receive files from my phone. Can somebody suggest something?
[12:11] <gdb> the former is quick and dirty and works well
[12:11] <barktpolar> Does'nt aMule have a IP Blocker
[12:12] <webben1> gdb: i don't get it -- aren't removed or purged packages _not_ installed?
[12:12] <Arokh> what's more geared for "home use", ubuntu, or kubuntu?
[12:12] <Warbo> barktpolar: I think there are some blacklists that the servers use
[12:12] <lasindi> Hi all, I want recompile the Ubuntu kernel, but I want to use Ubuntu's kernel modifications and its configuration. I did "apt-get install linux-kernel" but I see that it doesn't have a .config with it. Is there a place I can get the default Ubuntu configuration?
[12:12] <barktpolar> for aMule?
[12:12] <tpg_> how do i install KDI or something?
[12:12] <webben1> Arokh: doesn't work like that
[12:12] <lucasvo> Arokh: both is about the same
[12:12] <lucasvo> Arokh: it's up to you
[12:12] <gdb> webben1: That's right,  that's why you'd grep for "install" to grab installed packages (it's the second column of information if you run it without the grep and take a look).
[12:12] <Warbo> Arokh: It is a matter of preference. Try one, then install the other via apt and try that out as well
[12:12] <Arokh> i THINK when i was running fedora on the web server, I preferred gnome
[12:12] <lucasvo> Arokh: I prefer Gnome, so It's Kubuntu
[12:13] <webben1> gdb: oh i see, thanks
[12:13] <bobo_> spades; Operation not permitted... what do I do?
[12:13] <lucasvo> Arokh: so take ubuntu
[12:13] <gdb> webben1: Also dpkg -l and dpkg --list are equivabent.
[12:13] <lucasvo> Arokh: but running a GUI on a webserver doesn't really make sense :)
[12:13] <gdb> er equivalent
[12:13] <zybrid_> tips on a good ftp client like flashfxp?
[12:13] <spades> bobo_ what program gave that error>?
[12:13] <barktpolar> downloading amule now...
[12:13] <Phopsy> Any IrDA experts present tonight?
[12:13] <bobo_> spades; the terminal?
[12:13] <Arokh> it was a dual purpose, web server and spare computer for when my wife was on bed rest :D
[12:13] <Foobal> lucasvo: yeah right, usable management tools just suck. lol
[12:14] <bobo_> spades ; am i doing it wrong?
[12:14] <Warbo> barktpolar: I use MLDonkey
[12:14] <spades> bobo_ can you paste exactly what you did?
[12:14] <depi> I"ve just sold the Azureus&FAT32 problem: http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/FAT32PartitionUnderLinux
[12:14] <barktpolar> does GNOME stand for something?
[12:14] <Warbo> depi: How much for? :)
[12:14] <bobo_> spades ; bobo@unix:/media/H300$ ln -s rockbox .rockbox
[12:14] <Warbo> GNU Network Object Model Environment
[12:14] <barktpolar> Is it in the Add/Remove List
[12:14] <depi> Warbo: heh :D
[12:14] <spades> did you rename .roxbox so its not there anymore?
[12:14] <ruvil> Anyone know how to change locales in ubuntu? 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' does not work :/
[12:15] <barktpolar> Thanks
[12:15] <kbrooks> barktpolar: GNU Object Model Environment, I think
[12:15] <spades> bobo_ did .roxbox need to be on your homedir or on the player?
[12:15] <lucasvo> Foobal: ?
[12:15] <Arokh> are there any good programs for importing video from the camcorder, editing, and burning dvds under linux?
[12:15] <barktpolar> Here is another question I want to know
[12:15] <Phopsy> Arokh: Yeah, Kino if you have DV
[12:15] <grimboy> Gowan
[12:15] <Warbo> barktpolar: It is seperated into "mldonkey-server" and "mldonkey-gui", but I use Sanch for a GUI anyway (not in Ubuntu, but I converted an RPM)
[12:15] <erUSUL> Arokh: no that i know of... you have kino for import editing
[12:15] <barktpolar> Is teher any programs in Ubuntu that import stuff from Webcams?
[12:15] <tpg_> Is SuSe a good linux version?
[12:16] <Arokh> yeah i have dv, i just hope ubuntu recognizes my firewire card
[12:16] <Phopsy> Arokh: I'm sure it will...
[12:16] <lucasvo> tpg_: not as good as ubuntu ;-)
[12:16] <depi> Warbo: but why I cant download sometginh with firefox to FAT32 I really dont know
[12:16] <Phopsy> Lucasvo: Hehehe... :D
[12:16] <zybrid_> tpg_: yes and no.
[12:16] <zybrid_> tpg_: use dapper.
[12:16] <tpg_> what is dapper?
[12:17] <tpg_> a linux? 0_O
[12:17] <Warbo> !dapper
[12:17] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[12:17] <Daveyboy> can someone please take a look at this error http://pastebin.ca/82771
[12:17] <tpg_> !dapper
[12:17] <Phopsy> tpg_: Dapper Drake, Ubuntu 6.06
[12:17] <barktpolar> Dappek Drake = Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[12:17] <barktpolar> Dapper*
[12:17] <tpg_> ah,, im upgrading to that now, thnx
[12:17] <sokuban> I always have two extra drives on automount, how would I set it so that those drives won't be on the desktop but other drives (such as a CD or smc) would be on the desktop when I put them in?
[12:17] <tpg_> whats the point of it then?
[12:18] <Phopsy> tpg_: What's the point of what, exactly?
[12:18] <Arokh> i have 120gb for ubuntu, but like i used to do in windows, i'd partition like 40/80 gb, OS on the 40gb so if anything messes up i can format and reinstall without losing my data on the 80. is that how i should do it for ubuntu?
[12:18] <Warbo> Arokh: Put the non-OS bit as "/home" and it will be automatic :)
[12:18] <barktpolar> Does Ubuntu need a spyware blocker
[12:18] <lucasvo> Arokh: 40 for the system?
[12:18] <Warbo> barktpolar: No
[12:19] <barktpolar> Oh
[12:19] <lucasvo> Arokh: I would say 20
[12:19] <Phopsy> Arokh: I'd go for 20GB for the system...Lots of video space then.
[12:19] <tpg_> Dapper
[12:19] <tpg_> Phopsy
[12:19] <Arokh> oh, i have another 120 for the video :D
[12:19] <Daveyboy> can someone please take a look at this error http://pastebin.ca/82771 tryomg to install perl modules
[12:19] <tpg_> the upgrade of ubuntu i heard
[12:19] <Arokh> but if i can get away with 20/100, why not eh?
[12:19] <barktpolar> This room is nice to be in
[12:19] <lucasvo> Arokh: my ubuntu never used more than 10
[12:19] <Phopsy> tpg_: Because it's very good, very stable, well-supported, gorgeous and fun :D
[12:19] <Arokh> you know how windows apps are, fat, so that's why i was doing 40/80
[12:19] <tpg_> I hope my sound cards works on it too :/
[12:19] <tpg_> but ok ;p thnx for your help
[12:20] <Phopsy> tpg_: What soundcard are you using/
[12:21] <Warbo> Arokh: I agree. I used to use like 3GB for XP, and 37GB for files. Then I found out that my stuff doesn't work when I install it to my files partition, even though it says "which folder do you want to install it in?"
[12:21] <Phopsy> Anyone know why emulated programmes would go to the bother of running only in bluescale?
[12:21] <kbrooks> only in what?
[12:21] <barktpolar> Phopsy: I Use a ESS Audiodrive
[12:21] <Warbo> Phopsy: What's that? (and what system are you emulating?)
[12:22] <tpg_> Phopsy, im using a creative 24 bit audigy souncard
[12:22] <Phopsy> Well, it's Not Emulation...
[12:22] <Warbo> Phopsy: Ah, WINE?
[12:22] <Phopsy> Warbo: Darn right.
[12:22] <Phopsy> Warbo: It runs it, but it's all in blue!
[12:23] <Arokh> if i really really really need to do something with a windows program, is there a vm program in ubuntu?
[12:23] <Warbo> Phopsy: BSOD? Wow, the latest version of WINE is so near!
[12:23] <tpg_> whats WINE? 0-o
[12:23] <Warbo> !wine
[12:23] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:23] <Warbo> !vmware
[12:23] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[12:23] <Phopsy> Warbo: It's not really a BSoD...it just runs the entire programme infused with blue
[12:24] <Phopsy> Warbo: Strange stuff.
[12:24] <Warbo> Phopsy: Ah. Have you installed a silly theme in ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/Resources/Themes?
[12:25] <Phopsy> Warbo: Not installed any themes. It was the first game I'd succeeded in getting to work, so I was quite frightened when it all ran in blue tones.
[12:25] <Arokh> as i'm thinking this through, i have a bunch of games that i might still want to play here and there, maybe i should just dual boot. how do I do that? instlal ubuntu then xp?
[12:25] <Warbo> Phopsy: GAME? Now there's your problem :)
[12:25] <depi> Does anyone know why is it impossible to download something with firefox to fat32? (really strange thing)
[12:25] <tpg_> So... if i got WINE i could play windows games and stuff on it and install windows drivers orrr??
[12:25] <Warbo> tpg_: Applications usually, Games sometimes, Drivers no
[12:26] <tpg_> ok, thn
[12:26] <Warbo> !cedega
[12:26] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[12:26] <Lobster> n8
[12:26] <Phopsy> Warbo: Well yes....Most likely to be the problem. Figured it might be a common problem, but seems not :P
[12:26] <tpg_> dumb question : is this a linux x86?
[12:27] <barktpolar> IDK
[12:27] <tpg_> k
[12:27] <Warbo> tpg_: x86 is a 32bit "IBM compatible" "PC"
[12:27] <tpg_> oh
[12:27] <Warbo> tpg_: Basically: If it runs Windows then it is an x86 (but may be an x86_64/amd64)
[12:28] <Phopsy> tpg_: So a Linux x86 would be a distro that ran on x86 architecture.
[12:28] <Phopsy> tpg_: Like Ubuntu :)
[12:28] <Warbo> Phopsy: Linux is the kernel, which runs on x86, PowerPC, MIPS, SPARC, m68k, CELL, etc.
[12:28] <Warbo> Ubuntu is a DISTRO or an OS
[12:29] <Phopsy> Warbo: Shush, I knew that :-P
[12:30] <Warbo> Phopsy: I didn't actually notice the tpg_: part of your message :)
[12:30] <Phopsy> Warbo: Bleh, it happens
[12:30] <barktpolar> What is the URL for the Ubuntu Package Site
[12:30] <MrZaius> "Running "/sbin/lilo' failed with error code "1"
[12:30] <MrZaius> that's a bad thing right?
[12:31] <MrZaius> neither grub nor lilo will install on my box
[12:31] <MrZaius> although they did before, when I used it for gentoo
[12:31] <tpg_> Are .db files runable here?
[12:31] <Warbo> tpg_: .db? Sounds like a database maybe?
[12:31] <MrZaius> ubuntu, however, fails when I install it to the MBR of either hdd, and hang indefinitely when installed to floppy
[12:31] <MrZaius> what on earth is going on?
[12:32] <eragon24> idk
[12:32] <Dr`Keo> What's the version of the Nvidia drivers in the ubuntu repository?
[12:32] <tpg_> dunno, im trying to install WINE in some way... but i think im wrong, i got a link on the WINE website, u know maby where i can download WINE?
[12:32] <tpg_> Warbo
[12:32] <void^> !info wine
[12:32] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[12:32] <Warbo> tpg_: Easy. System>Applications>Synaptic Package Manager. Search for wine :)
[12:32] <erUSUL> tpg_: sudo pat-get install wine
[12:33] <Warbo> Go on Pat, get me some wine!
[12:33] <barktpolar> apt-get*
[12:33] <eragon24> how many people here play runescape??
[12:33] <Warbo> !offtopic
[12:33] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:33] <Dr`Keo> One more time... What's the version of the Nvidia drivers in the ubuntu repository?
[12:34] <MrZaius> Dr`Keo apt-cache'll tell you
[12:34] <MrZaius> after running apt-get update
[12:34] <MrZaius> anyone know what'll keep lilo or grub both from installing on a box where they both worked before?
[12:34] <Luke> Seveas: i've added your repo to my repo list but your packges dont show up in synaptic when I search even though I  followed the wiki guide for adding it
[12:34] <Dr`Keo> MrZaius, I've got synaptic updating atm, I just need which version the drivers are
[12:34] <MrZaius> Dr`Keo: it's possible apt-cache'll still run
[12:34] <Warbo> Dr`Keo: Search for nvidia-glx then. The package version is the driver version
[12:35] <knanand> wat are the repos i need to add in order to install Opera 9
[12:35] <knanand> i dont find opera in my list
[12:35] <Warbo> knanand: Try easyubuntu maybe
[12:36] <Dr`Keo> Crud... These are too old for the 6200
[12:36] <Warbo> knanand: Or at least it's repos
[12:36] <Warbo> the "penguin liberation front" has it I htink
[12:36] <knanand> can you give me the url
[12:36] <Gareth^> hm, what would be the simpest way to migrate from an amd64 kernel to an i686 kernel while retaining user settings?
[12:36] <sara_> I'm still having troubles after typing ipkg-build.sh Test
[12:36] <sara_>  I get an error saying the following files have a UID than 99, and It tells me I should chown them to a sytem user... I'm trying but cant seem to get the command
[12:36] <Gareth^> I've got a seperate /home partition, I'm thinking I'd just copy everything to there that I'd need and then replace it after redoing my / partition
[12:36] <Warbo> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[12:37] <mikere> MrZaius: only think I can think of that would stop them from working would be swapping drives so the primary boot drive didn't have a boot loader or something similar.
[12:37] <Warbo> Gareth^: /home shouldn't need to change, but you may want some stuff from /etc that you have configured yourself
[12:37] <coventry> I wanted to install Ubuntu, but was unable to because my machine has a harddrive which the current Ubuntu kernel can't deal with.  (Had to use the Etch nightly build installer, then apt-get upgrade to sid to get a machine which would boot debian.)  But sid doesn't know about my video system (Dell 3007 WFP with an NVidia Quadro FX graphics card,) while Ubuntu doesn't seem to have a problem with it.  Is there some way I could get Ubuntu's X configurati
[12:38] <Sir_Fawnpug> Greetings everyone; I'm currently running breezy and I'm just getting around to updating to dapper (which I hear has better wireless support). I was wondering what kind of configuration I'd have to change to get the wireless going (It's one of those nasty broadcom chipsets)
[12:38] <ccc_> knanand: well, you can download the ubuntu deb at opera.com and install it with: sudo dpkg -i <file>
[12:38] <Gareth^> thanks Warbo
[12:38] <Sir_Fawnpug> And if that didn't make much sense, forgive me, as I have been drinking beer.
[12:39] <dreamcatcher5172> whats a compiler and how can i get one to install from source
[12:39] <sara_> Wireless worked immeadiatley for me
[12:39] <Sir_Fawnpug> sara_, awesome, what chipset are you using?
[12:39] <Warbo> apt-get install build-essential
[12:39] <sara_> salt & vinegar
[12:39] <Warbo> lol
[12:39] <Sir_Fawnpug> Haha
[12:39] <_DjScrew_> anyone that can help me install a linksys wusb54g without an internet connection on the ubuntu box
[12:39] <Sir_Fawnpug> If I ever designed ICs, I would name a chipset that.
[12:40] <dreamcatcher5172> super thanks im installing it now
[12:40] <knanand> Warbo: I get an error like this "opera: Depends: xlib6g (>=3.3.6) but it is not installable or xlibs  but it is not installable"
[12:40] <sara_> dapper drake ...  all dressed
[12:40] <tpg_> what is sudo pat-get install wine? well when i typ this in terminal it gives a message that i need to type my password but i cant type anything :/ only enter...
[12:40] <Sir_Fawnpug> sara_, did you also upgrade from breezy, or did you do a clean install?
[12:40] <sara_> clean
[12:41] <Warbo> tpg_: 1) apt-get 2) it is being entered, just doesn't show for security reasons
[12:41] <RegalDrac> i got a file in my home folder
[12:41] <RegalDrac> when it ry to delete it says its not there
[12:41] <RegalDrac> any idea how to remove it
[12:41] <Sir_Fawnpug> Ahh, you see I'm hesistant to do a clean install because I got alot of things set up the way I want them to be on this machine. Mainly my fluxbox config and all.
[12:41] <sara_> sir  do you know how I can chown a bunch of files to my user at one time?
[12:41] <barktpolar> Here is a site I found that has packages packages.ubuntu.com are those .deb files compatible with the GDebi Installer
[12:41] <Sir_Fawnpug> sara_, chown user:group *
[12:41] <Sir_Fawnpug> In bash
[12:42] <saperDuper> hi. i put the ubuntu 6.06 cd i just downloaded in my pc and i get the following error message while booting the kernel: crc error.Kernel panic -not syncing:VFS:Unable to mount rootfs on unknown block (1,0). any ideas?
[12:42] <Warbo> barktpolar: I do hope you are kidding? Have you never used Synaptic?
[12:42] <Sir_Fawnpug> Or for just your user, just chown user *
[12:42] <sara_> im not sure what the group is though
[12:42] <knanand> Wabro: I get an error.. Please help me..
[12:42] <sara_> ok
[12:42] <Sir_Fawnpug> sara_, the group is only included if you use the colon, eg, chown :group *
[12:42] <Warbo> knanand: Try installing the "xlibs-dev" package
[12:42] <tpg_> well i didnt marbo, i just searched WINE at it but it didndt found anything
[12:42] <Warbo> chown owner.group filename
[12:42] <barktpolar> No I''m
[12:42] <barktpolar> not
[12:42] <Sir_Fawnpug> What bash will actually do is expand the * wildcard to include all matching files.
[12:43] <sara_> when i type chown user *  it goes to the next line... but
[12:43] <infyquest> ping ben collins
[12:43] <Warbo> barktpolar: packages.ubuntu.com is where all of the packages in Synaptic are from :)
[12:43] <Sir_Fawnpug> sara_, feel free to pm me
[12:43] <Warbo> !tell tpg_ about universe
[12:43] <Sir_Fawnpug> Did you look at the output of ls -l?
[12:43] <barktpolar> Oh *does anime sweat drop*
[12:43] <Sir_Fawnpug> And you can only chown files which you own.
[12:43] <Warbo> tpg_: Follow the instructions to get Universe and Multiverse enabled, then look again
[12:44] <Sir_Fawnpug> So you will need to probably do it with "sudo chown user *"
[12:44] <Sir_Fawnpug> Or if you have your root password (I am not a big fan of sudo), su and chown from there
[12:44] <Sharrow> wuff :)
[12:45] <Warbo> Sir_Fawnpug: Don't recommend root, and also "sudo su" works without root
[12:45] <mythtv> hello
[12:45] <barktpolar> Just liek I'm not a big fan of pppd
[12:45] <barktpolar> I use GNOME PPP
[12:45] <Sir_Fawnpug> Warbo, maybe I'm just apprehensive of sudo but I much rather prefer su over sudo.
[12:45] <mythtv> hello can anyone helpme with mythtv
[12:45] <Warbo> Sir_Fawnpug: I use "sudo -s -H" all of the time (even though I know "sudo -i" is quicker)
[12:46] <barktpolar> because pppd get sme on my nerves, it always d/cs one me
[12:46] <Sir_Fawnpug> Maybe that's why I haven't seen the illustrious wheel group in ubuntu
[12:46] <mythtv> ok i guess thats a no
[12:46] <mythtv> any idea
[12:46] <eragon24> duh
[12:46] <Warbo> !mythtv
[12:46] <josh> hows it going people
[12:46] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[12:46] <mythtv> yes
[12:46] <josh> got a question... what is the sourcelist for dapper?
[12:47] <barktpolar> !sound
[12:47] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:47] <josh> and when i do the sudo apt-get dist upgrade, will i lose any files?
[12:47] <Warbo> josh: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" will tell you :)
[12:47] <eragon24> how many people have created game-playing bots??
[12:47] <barktpolar> !ubotu sound
[12:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu sound
[12:47] <Sir_Fawnpug> josh, I'm looking for that too, I'll let you know when I find it.
[12:47] <RegalDrac> is there a command to get full out pc stats
[12:47] <RegalDrac> and distro
[12:47] <josh> warbo... sources list aint going to tell me dude
[12:47] <grimboy> !sound
[12:47] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:47] <Warbo> josh: 1) dist-upgrade 2) No. If it screws your system and you have to format it to make it usable then yes :)
[12:47] <sara_> pastebin doesnt seem to work anymore
[12:47] <mythtv> it is
[12:47] <Sir_Fawnpug> RegalDrac, well as far as distro, you can do uname -a and that should give you all of the basic system and kernel information.
[12:47] <Reimu> I have two drives on automount, how would I get them off my desktop? Without unmounting them?
[12:47] <josh> yeah... no. im trying to avoid that see
[12:48] <knanand> Warbo: I get the same error after installing xlibs...
[12:48] <josh> reimu, mount them somewhere else in your fstab
[12:48] <Sir_Fawnpug> You can check processor parameters by catting /proc/cpu
[12:48] <Warbo> knanand: Maybe get the .deb from opera.com then (it is buried quite deeply I believe)
[12:48] <Sir_Fawnpug> If you want to check pci information lspci
[12:48] <mythtv> i am having probs getting the play and live tv functions to work
[12:49] <mythtv> i get this
[12:49] <mythtv> when trying to watch live tv
[12:49] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:21.227 LiveTV not successfully started
[12:49] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:21.236 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
[12:49] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:21.239 Changing from None to None
[12:49] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:21.279 Enable DPMS
[12:49] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:21.289 Using protocol version 15
[12:49] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:21.431 Using protocol version 15
[12:49] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:21.566 Using protocol version 15
[12:49] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:21.730 Using protocol version 15
[12:49] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:21.890 Using protocol version 15
[12:49] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:22.057 Using protocol version 15
[12:49] <spades> !flood
[12:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:49] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:22.244 Using protocol version 15
[12:49] <Warbo> !paste
[12:49] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:22.407 Using protocol version 15
[12:49] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:22.571 Using protocol version 15
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:22.740 Using protocol version 15
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:22.895 Using protocol version 15
[12:50] <Sir_Fawnpug> ack, pastebin
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:23.059 Using protocol version 15
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:23.233 Using protocol version 15
[12:50] <thenuke> please kick :)
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:23.318 Using protocol version 15
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:23.660 Disable DPMS
[12:50] <sara_> Sir_Fawnpug  i pm'ed you
[12:50] <ragoo> :z
[12:50] <Warbo> mythtv: STOP!
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:23.909 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read().
[12:50] <ardchoille>  /ignore mythtv
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:24.129 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read().
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:24.357 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read().
[12:50] <Sir_Fawnpug> Sara, good deal
[12:50] <thenuke> he cannot stop :P
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:24.585 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read().
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:24.815 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read().
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:25.046 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read().
[12:50] <Sir_Fawnpug> err, you did?
[12:50] <mythtv> Couldn't read file: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/var/cache/mythtv//ringbuf1.nuv
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:25.103 LiveTV not successfully started
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:25.130 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:25.134 Changing from None to None
[12:50] <josh> mythtv!!! dont flood the channel
[12:50] <thenuke> mythtv: but please, tell us, what the hell were you thinking about :D
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:25.190 Enable DPMS
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:25.202 Using protocol version 15
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:25.334 Using protocol version 15
[12:50] <P3L|C4N0> flood
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:25.471 Using protocol version 15
[12:50] <saperDuper> hi. i put the ubuntu 6.06 cd i just downloaded in my pc and i get the following error message while booting the kernel: crc error.Kernel panic -not syncing:VFS:Unable to mount rootfs on unknown block (1,0). any ideas?
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:25.635 Using protocol version 15
[12:50] <sara_> stopppp
[12:50] <knanand> Warbo: ok.. hope that works... but i get an error when i try to update also.. is this related to this problem??
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:25.780 Using protocol version 15
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:25.948 Using protocol version 15
[12:50] <Warbo> Help I'm drowning!
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 15:25:26.114 Using protocol version 15
[12:50] <mythtv> 2006-07-08 1
[12:50] <mythtv> sorry guys
[12:50] <mythtv> sorry guys geesh
[12:50] <Sir_Fawnpug> Myth, please post that to a pastebin.
[12:50] <sara_> what a faux-pas
[12:51] <mythtv> it willstop soon
[12:51] <saperDuper> hi. i put the ubuntu 6.06 cd i just downloaded in my pc and i get the following error message while booting the kernel: crc error.Kernel panic -not syncing:VFS:Unable to mount rootfs on unknown block (1,0). any ideas?
[12:51] <josh> sara > www.dictionary.com
[12:51] <mythtv> yes yes
[12:51] <Warbo> knanand: I would disable any extra repos during an upgrade
[12:51] <mythtv> sorry really
[12:51] <kern_malloc> saperDuper: what kind of harddrive do you have?  is is SATA?
[12:51] <Phopsy> saperDuper: Do you get a menu first?
[12:51] <saperDuper> Phopsy: yes
[12:51] <Sir_Fawnpug> mythtv, we're not angry at you or anything; just so you know next time.
[12:51] <saperDuper> kern_malloc: ATA
[12:51] <Warbo> saperDuper: Try checking the disc's md5 hash (see if it is corrupt)
[12:51] <mythtv> any mythtv help here
[12:52] <kern_malloc> saperDuper: i haven't installed ubuntu, but i'm sure there's an option you can parse at the beginning to specificy your hdisk if it's scsi or SAA
[12:52] <kern_malloc> er SATA
[12:52] <saperDuper> Warbo: i already have.it is not corrupt
[12:52] <kern_malloc> or it's ata that should be in default
[12:52] <barktpolar> Does anyone in here use a ZIP Drive?
[12:52] <gteppel__> I'm running Ubuntu as my home gateway/firewall and was wondering what ports I needed to open/forward so a machine inside my network can use a gnutella based p2p program?
[12:52] <etavi> hi all, i have a question regarding how are the managed libraries(say from synaptic installations) and libraries from manual installations(from source) mangle together ? (hope it makes some sense :) )
[12:52] <saperDuper> all these guys have the same problem http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189915&highlight=crc+error
[12:52] <Reimu_> Sorry, if anyone answered my question about the desktop icons can you say it again?
[12:53] <Reimu_> I can't connect to Reimu
[12:53] <Warbo> gteppel__: Just use whatever port the program is set to use (I know gtk-gnutella is set to use a random one by default)
[12:53] <gteppel__> ok
[12:53] <Sir_Fawnpug> Did anybody find the sourcelist for dapper?
[12:53] <Warbo> !source-o-matic
[12:53] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:53] <Reimu_> I have two drives on automount, how would I get them off my desktop? Without unmounting them? (I don't have them mounted to the desktop, I have them mounted to /media)
[12:54] <SurfnKid> is anyone using XGL/Compiz now
[12:54] <sara_> do u have to be root to chown a user?
[12:54] <Sir_Fawnpug> Warbo, that's awesome, thank you.
[12:54] <avis> is anyone here running ubuntu dapper drake with a geforce 6200 ?
[12:54] <spades> chown is for files not users, if the current owner of the file is not you, root/sudo needs to be used to chown to your username
[12:54] <Daveyboy>  what are the development packagesnames for mysql and GD?
[12:54] <SonicChao> !anyone
[12:54] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:55] <ks1> Reimu_: gconf-editor and change the gconf settings for nautilus
[12:55] <mythtv> ok have a good night everybody gonna try to get mythtv to work
[12:55] <LeanCalPer> hola
[12:55] <ks1> show mounted volumes on desktop
[12:55] <coventry> Where could I download a copy of the latest .deb file for the ubuntu package xserver-xorg-driver-nv?
[12:55] <barktpolar> Is there any good places to download autopackages then?
[12:55] <Reimu_> ks1: thanks
[12:55] <Warbo> coventry: packages.ubuntu.com
[12:55] <eragon24> has anyone created a game-playing bot at all??
[12:55] <RegalDrac> is there a way to open 7zip files in Linux
[12:55] <RegalDrac> ?
[12:55] <sara_> spades the error i get is : *** Warning: The following files have a UID greater than 99
[12:56] <sara_> and  You probably want to chown these to a system user:
[12:56] <coventry> Warbo: thanks
[12:56] <barktpolar> Download 7zip, I believe that has a linux version
[12:56] <Warbo> RegalDrac: apt-get install p7zip I think
[12:56] <Daveyboy>  what are the development package names for mysql and GD??
[12:56] <eragon24> has anyone created a game-playing bot at all??
[12:56] <etavi> if I install some software from source, and then uninstall a soft. from synaptic that shares a library with the first, could this brake it ? or how is it managed ?
[12:56] <Reimu_> ks1: I can't find that option, where is it?
[12:56] <RegalDrac> k tks
[12:56] <saperDuper> RegalDrac: http://www.7-zip.org/download.html
[12:56] <LeanCalPer> espaol por favor
[12:56] <LeanCalPer> espaol por favor
[12:56] <LeanCalPer> espaol por favor
[12:56] <LeanCalPer> espaol por favor
[12:56] <LeanCalPer> espaol por favor
[12:56] <LeanCalPer> espaol por favor
[12:56] <LeanCalPer> espaol por favor
[12:56] <LoRez> Warning: `LeanCalPer' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[12:56] <spades> sara_ what files are you trying to chown?
[12:56] <LeanCalPer> espaol por favor
[12:57] <LeanCalPer> espaol por favor
[12:57] <Warbo> !es
[12:57] <Shizboom> !proftp
[12:57] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:57] <ks1> Reimu_: one second, I have to look
[12:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about proftp
[12:57] <Sir_Fawnpug> Warbo, that tool is really awesome
[12:57] <ardchoille> W00T! First time I have installed anything outside of the repos and it worked!!!
[12:57] <sara_> theres a whole folder worth of files
[12:57] <eragon24> #ubuntu
[12:57] <Warbo> Sir_Fawnpug: Never used it myself :)
[12:57] <eragon24> #java
[12:57] <spades> sara_ chown the folder and add -R to the end to get recursive so you dont need to do each one by one
[12:57] <Sir_Fawnpug> Warbo, it seems to be pretty straightforward
[12:57] <void^> etavi: you're responsible for keeping dependencies of software you install manually. apt can't know about such things.
[12:57] <eragon24> !ubuntu
[12:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[12:58] <sara_> spades sor for the newbieism but what would the command look like?
[12:58] <eragon24> !irc
[12:58] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[12:58] <spades> sara_ ie: chown sara:sara ~/x/ -R
[12:58] <ks1> Reimu_: gconf-editor: apps>nautilus>desktop> volumes_visible
[12:58] <Sir_Fawnpug> sara_, I'm sorry, I totally forgot about helping you.
[12:58] <sara_> no probs
[12:58] <RegalDrac> hey do you guys know the terminal command to use it
[12:58] <Sir_Fawnpug> sara_, you have to at least own the file to chown I think.
[12:58] <squiggly> DCC SEND GNAAoverlords 0 0 0
[12:58] <Sir_Fawnpug> Or be root
[12:58] <Sir_Fawnpug> Netsplit!
[12:58] <knanand> Warbo: I think there is something serious problem.. The deb that i downloaded from Opera.com also dint work...
[12:58] <Reimu_> ks1: I tried that before but it wouldn't let me change, I forgot to be root >_<
[12:59] <avis> is anyone here running ubuntu dapper drake with a Geforce 6200 ?
[12:59] <barktpolar> Anyone know why alsa-project.org is not working?
[12:59] <etavi> void^: is there any other way(than building a deb) to make apt aware of manually installed software ??
[12:59] <Warbo> RegalDrac: You can use file-roller (the GNOME archive manager) or use "7z x filename" I think
[12:59] <RegalDrac> k
[12:59] <ks1> You shouldnt have to be root.. maybe that gconf is set as read only.. gotta hate that
[12:59] <ks1> gconf settings are user independant i beleive.
[12:59] <ardchoille> squiggly: that was *not* nice
[01:00] <Warbo> etavi: You should try to give the Debs you make the right dependencies
[01:00] <squiggly> the gnaa made me do it
[01:00] <spades> ardchoille he does that once a day i think
[01:00] <knanand> Warbo: It gives an error like this "dpkg: error processing opera_9.0-20060616.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory Errors were encountered while processing: opera_9.0-20060616.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb"
[01:00] <squiggly> THEY HAVE STOLEN MY WILL
[01:00] <Sir_Fawnpug> sara_, the best way to know about the behavior of chown is to read the manpage
[01:00] <sara_> ok
[01:00] <Sir_Fawnpug> But I would assume that's the default behaviour.
[01:00] <Warbo> knanand: Well that says that the file doesn't exist. Try renaming it to something simpler
[01:01] <RegalDrac> Warbo:  whats the apt get to install make and stuff
[01:01] <RegalDrac> i forgot the command
[01:01] <RegalDrac> i got 2 pcs
[01:01] <ardchoille> spades: he was k-lined for it a couple days ago and I just reported him to lilo.. again
[01:01] <ks1> build-essentials
[01:01] <Warbo> RegalDrac: build-essential
[01:01] <RegalDrac> ya but it was a diffrent than normal aptget command
[01:01] <RegalDrac> i think
[01:01] <ks1> yeah i think so too
[01:01] <Warbo> RegalDrac: "sudo apt-get install build-essential" or "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[01:02] <RegalDrac> k
[01:02] <RegalDrac> what is the aptitiude diffrence
[01:02] <RegalDrac> <-- noob
[01:02] <Warbo> RegalDrac: Try just "sudo apt-get" then try just "sudo aptitude"
[01:02] <skavenge> are there any gui cdrw tools?
[01:02] <Sir_Fawnpug> RegalDrac, I think aptitude is a KDE frontend to apt
[01:03] <Sir_Fawnpug> As opposed to synaptic.
[01:03] <RegalDrac> oh ok
[01:03] <Sir_Fawnpug> So, I'm guessing aptitutde woudl source KDE
[01:03] <RegalDrac> :d
[01:03] <ks1> skavenge: graveman, gnomebaker, bonfire, k3b, many others.
[01:03] <Warbo> skavenge: k3b, nautilus, gnome-baker, xcdroast
[01:03] <RegalDrac> im running ubun on 2 pcs
[01:03] <RegalDrac> and tryen to write down what i put on here
[01:03] <RegalDrac> to put on the other
[01:03] <skavenge> hm okay
[01:03] <spades> aptitude is a cli apt util
[01:03] <xenos767> I was wondering if there was anyone here that might be able to help me install WINE?
[01:03] <Sir_Fawnpug> spades, ahh, what was the kde?
[01:03] <knanand> Warbo: Hey thank you.. I had downloaded it to some other location.. I could install it now. Thank You again :)
[01:03] <Warbo> Adept is the KDE frontend to apt. aptitude is a commandline frontend
[01:03] <spades> Sir_Fawnpug adept iirc
[01:03] <Sir_Fawnpug> Ahh, OK.
[01:03] <arooni> hey folks... i'm trying to get my ubuntu to connect to the internet.... (have dapper hosted on a vmware workstation on winxp).  questions 1) how do i get the mac address in linux?  2) how do i make sure i can connect to the internet?
[01:03] <ccc_> Sir_Fawnpug: the kde frontend is adept.
[01:03] <Sir_Fawnpug> It's been a while since I've done anything debian.
[01:04] <spades> aptitude is like a gui in command line, but text based
[01:04] <Sir_Fawnpug> Although I must admit the ubuntu devs have really outdone themselves
[01:04] <Warbo> xenos767: go in Synaptic, install wine. Simple
[01:05] <Aesop> Ok, weird bug: I've got some updates, one of htem is the new 'login', so I chick to see changes, it starts downloading, then Xorg restarts
[01:05] <sokuban> ks1: I did what you said, but it doesn't work, I restarted X and unmounted the drives
[01:05] <Muelli> Warbo: You're sure that Wine is in the default repositories?
[01:05] <Warbo> !universe
[01:05] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:05] <Warbo> Happy now?
[01:06] <sokuban> ks1: also what was the name of the config program?
[01:06] <sokuban> ks1: oops I am Reimu, I wonder how I could be using this name since I forgot the password
[01:06] <Sir_Fawnpug> The drake is quite dapper.
[01:07] <arooni> folks... how do you get the MAC address on linux?
[01:07] <Reimu> Does anyone know the name of the basic control panel in ubuntu? I know it starts with a G >_>
[01:07] <nao> Hi, I'm having some trouble with VLC, anytime I load the player, and then load a media file it shuts down.  Does anyone know how I can fix that?  I'm very new to ubuntu so any help is very much appreciated.  I'm on Dapper.
[01:07] <Sir_Fawnpug> arooni, ifconfig shows them I think.
[01:07] <Warbo> gconf-editor?
[01:07] <Sir_Fawnpug> As hdwaddr
[01:07] <spades> archetypo ifconfig should show the mac addr
[01:07] <eragon24> has anyone created a game-playing bot??
[01:07] <Reimu> nao: you have vlc-plugin-esd right? (or something along those lines)
[01:08] <nao> Reimu, yeah, I do
[01:08] <arooni> ahh hwaddrses?
[01:08] <Reimu> does vlc work on windows?
[01:08] <Sir_Fawnpug> Yeah, since the MAC address is hardware dependent I guess.
[01:08] <nao> Reimu, when I installed it, it made it so that VLC would load my file and linger for about three seconds, but crashed
[01:08] <nao> Reimu:  Yeah, it works fine in Windows
[01:08] <Warbo> VLC works on Windows, but you need a different binary
[01:08] <Sir_Fawnpug> Anyway just find the MAC address for your preferred interface and you're good to go.
[01:09] <josh> !easysource
[01:09] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:09] <Reimu> nao: no clue, sorry, I'm new to ubuntu too, why don't you try playing the files with another player?
[01:09] <Sir_Fawnpug> You know I'm really considering getting rid of gnome, will most of the administration programs run on just GTK?
[01:10] <Warbo> Sir_Fawnpug: Yes.
[01:10] <pump> hi, does anyone have a tv card?
[01:10] <Warbo> pump: I do
[01:10] <void^> i do
[01:10] <Sir_Fawnpug> Warbo, that is good news because I run in fluxbox all the time.
[01:10] <xenos767> when installing a file in synaptic, do I just click on the files, mark them, then apply?
[01:10] <pump> which one do you have?
[01:10] <Warbo> xenos767: Yes
[01:10] <xenos767> thanks Warbo
[01:10] <Reimu> Does anyone know the name of the basic control panel app in gnome? I know it starts with a g >_>
[01:10] <Warbo> pump: "Studio PCTV Rave"
[01:10] <charle97> pump, i have a avermedia 98
[01:11] <Sir_Fawnpug> I think the only thing I'd like to keep is gdm
[01:11] <Warbo> Reimu: gconf-editor?
[01:11] <arooni> im having trouble connecting to my linksys router with ubuntu
[01:11] <pump> oh, i'm trying to make a pinnacle pctv stereo work
[01:11] <Reimu> Warbo: thanks
[01:11] <pump> but i can't make that :S
[01:11] <Sir_Fawnpug> arooni, do you have mac address filtering on?
[01:11] <josh> will i have to reinstall freenx after i do this dist upgrade?
[01:11] <Sir_Fawnpug> And what kind of medium are you connecting with?
[01:11] <arooni> Sir_Fawnpug: sure, and i added the 'HWaddr' listed on 'eth0'
[01:12] <pump> warbo, what chip does the pctv rave have?
[01:12] <arooni> Sir_Fawnpug: and im trying to connect from dapper to my linksys router (its running thru vmware's workstation using bridged networkign, so it should be connecting direct to router from linux os)
[01:12] <Warbo> pump: I don't know but I used the bttv driver or something last time I used it
[01:12] <Sir_Fawnpug> arooni, that's somewhat odd, the first thing I'd say is rerun net
[01:12] <pump> mine has a saa7134 philips chip
[01:12] <Sir_Fawnpug> But then again I remeber this isn't gentoo.
[01:13] <pump> i don't have signal at all :S
[01:13] <arooni> Sir_Fawnpug: what do you mean by 'rerun net' (im a linux noob
[01:13] <xenos767> now that I have wine installed, how do i open/use it?
[01:13] <Sir_Fawnpug> net is an initscript
[01:13] <Warbo> xenos767: Double click on a Windows program :)
[01:13] <Sir_Fawnpug> Basically it's a script that gets started whenever your computer boots
[01:13] <pump> xenos767: "wine file.exe"
[01:13] <Sir_Fawnpug> Or more specifically, changes runlevels.
[01:13] <arooni> Sir_Fawnpug: ok, so if i just typed in 'net' it gave me a usage message
[01:13] <xenos767> oh so it will automaticly work?
[01:14] <gteppel__> what is a good iptables program that will simplify writing firewall rules?
[01:14] <gteppel__> it has to be command line
[01:14] <Sir_Fawnpug> Well the script is located in /etc/init.d/ I think
[01:14] <pump> xenos767, first exec "winecfg"
[01:14] <gteppel__> i'm running a headless erver
[01:14] <Warbo> xenos767: If it's going to work at all :)
[01:14] <Sir_Fawnpug> So you're running ubuntu off of vmware?
[01:14] <arooni> yes
[01:14] <charle97> pump, are you using tvtime?
[01:14] <Sir_Fawnpug> I don't know the nuances of vmware so I can't tell you much about that.
[01:14] <Sir_Fawnpug> All I can say is good luck.
[01:14] <hydroksyde> anyone else having CUPS issues in ubuntu 6.06 when printing to an IPP network printer?
[01:15] <Sir_Fawnpug> And I hope it works for you.
[01:15] <pump> charle97, yes, but i'm not having signal with any program
[01:15] <Polkadotshorts> How on earth can I make a screenshot in ubuntu? If i press print screen, nothing happens.
[01:15] <Polkadotshorts> There used to be a window that opened
[01:15] <Sir_Fawnpug> Polkadotshorts, there are alot of tools out there.
[01:15] <Warbo> Polkadotshorts: Look in Application>Accessories (but printscreen should work...)
[01:15] <Sir_Fawnpug> I have a screenshot utility that I keep in gkrell
[01:15] <mcphail> Polkadotshorts: are you using Xgl/compiz?
[01:15] <Sir_Fawnpug> That will take pictures
[01:15] <charle97> pump, what tuner setting are you using?
[01:16] <hydroksyde> gimp does screenies too
[01:16] <josh> what is the dist upgrade command?
[01:16] <Warbo> josh: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:16] <josh> i thought it was sudo apt-get dist upgrade but that aint it
[01:16] <pump> charle97, in the saa7134 module?
[01:16] <Sir_Fawnpug> josh, I think it upgrades all the files in the distro
[01:16] <josh> ahh
[01:16] <josh> left out the damn -
[01:16] <Sir_Fawnpug> no, it's dist-upgrade
[01:16] <josh> ok
[01:16] <josh> thanks
[01:16] <charle97> pump, that's the card ... there's a tuner setting
[01:16] <Polkadotshorts> I dont know, mcphail. I installed the eye candy thing in ubuntuguide...and I had to set a keyboard something there....
[01:16] <Polkadotshorts> I am useless.
[01:16] <untu> i need a packetsender for linux :) are there any packages?
[01:16] <Polkadotshorts> :'(
[01:16] <ardchoille> josh: you using my keyboard again? lol
[01:16] <Warbo> Polkadotshorts: Do your windows wobble?
[01:17] <Polkadotshorts> yes
[01:17] <Polkadotshorts> I like my windows wobbling
[01:17] <pump> yes, i load that module with the values "card=26 and tuner=33"
[01:17] <mcphail> Polkadotshorts: the window manager with the wobbly windows doesn't work with the printscreen button
[01:17] <Warbo> Polkadotshorts: Then you have XGL/Compiz
[01:17] <pump> there is a tuner module, but i'm not giving it any value
[01:17] <Polkadotshorts> wel, that is useful
[01:17] <Polkadotshorts> a pity
[01:17] <mcphail> Polkadotshorts: (well, it _does_ now, but I'm using a non-standard repo)
[01:18] <Warbo> Polkadotshorts: Well Compiz has only been around for about a year (and only available for about 6 months)
[01:18] <eragon24> who has created a game-playing bot?
[01:18] <Polkadotshorts> Also, does anyone know if this nice wobbly thing will be default in the next ubuntu?
[01:18] <Warbo> Polkadotshorts: I hope not
[01:18] <Polkadotshorts> why?
[01:18] <mcphail> Polkadotshorts: i doubt it. Too many problems yet
[01:18] <Polkadotshorts> I see.
[01:18] <Polkadotshorts> Well, I think it looks nice.
[01:19] <Polkadotshorts> This brown just does not do it for me, though
[01:19] <Polkadotshorts> I am going to install that orange thing now
[01:19] <charle97> pump, have you tried different tuner settings?
[01:19] <Warbo> Polkadotshorts: 1) Stuck with one window manager 2) Compiz has pathetic theming ability 3) root window doesn't work 4) accelerated video doesn't work on ATI cards
[01:19] <Reimu> I don't get it, when I uncheck the option in nautilus in  gconf-editor to show shortcuts to mounted drives on the desktop the shortcuts are still there, I tried everything, remounting, restarting x, changing fstab, rebooting the entire system, but the icons are still there. What might be causing this?
[01:19] <pump> yes
[01:19] <skavenge> Can someone tell me why I'm getting this error when trying to erase a cdrw with k3b? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17575 thanks ..
[01:19] <Warbo> Nvidia, not ATI :)
[01:20] <Warbo> Also the system-tray type thing ALWAYS crashes Compiz for me
[01:21] <GUARDiAN|nb> hi
[01:21] <RegalDrac> do u need to install someone to unzip rars
[01:21] <RegalDrac> ?
[01:21] <Warbo> RegalDrac: unrar-nonfree I think
[01:21] <Warbo> !rar
[01:21] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[01:21] <GUARDiAN|nb> does anyone of you know if there is a tool that's able to shutdown a windows-pc from linux?
[01:21] <Warbo> GUARDiAN|nb: Hammer?
[01:21] <Warbo> GUARDiAN|nb: DDoS maybe?
[01:21] <Warbo> :)
[01:22] <mcphail> GUARDiAN|nb: i suppose you should be able to with rdesktop
[01:22] <GUARDiAN|nb> ;-)
[01:22] <GUARDiAN|nb> i need a non-exploiting scriptable solution
[01:22] <qwzybug> so when is Gnome going to get a column view?
[01:22] <pump> i'm sorry i'm back
[01:23] <Warbo> qwzybug: As soon as you install an app which can do it. As for Nautilus, I don't know
[01:23] <arooni> Sir_Fawnpug: you there?  i got it.. (asked in #efnet|ubuntu... had to get the dns working and change it to 4.2.2.2 and that worked for some reason)
[01:23] <Android> is the installer for ubuntu fairly straightforward? (im new to linux and want to make sure before i start)
[01:23] <Warbo> Android: Extraordinarily
[01:23] <Reimu> Android: extreemly straitforward, don't worry about a thing, (I was worried too)
[01:23] <andy-> Whats a good media player? rythmbox sux..
[01:24] <Warbo> !amarok
[01:24] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[01:24] <GUARDiAN|nb> i like mplayer
[01:24] <ardchoille> Android: I have a 7 year old niece who installed Ubuntu all by herself :)
[01:24] <qwzybug> Warbo: right, right... I'd love to see it in nautilus, though. column view is a really intuitive way to navigate the FS. much better than the tree view/win explorer in my opinion.
[01:24] <andy-> thought amaroK was for kde
[01:24] <Reimu> amaroK gives me 100% CPU O_O
[01:24] <Warbo> qwzybug: I like spatial
[01:24] <pump> ardchioille: really? :|
[01:24] <alinushak> how can i reset my repozitories from console?
[01:24] <Warbo> !listen
[01:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about listen
[01:24] <Reimu> it is, but everyone likes it so much they install KDE just for it
[01:24] <Warbo> dammit
[01:24] <qwzybug> Warbo: so you have folders open in new windows?
[01:24] <dli> alindeman, sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:24] <Shizboom> anyone use something else other than azerues for torrents?
[01:24] <dli> Reimu, dapper is buggy :)
[01:25] <Warbo> andy-: There is a media player called Listen which I like to use as well as Amarok. I will get a URL for it
[01:25] <Laibsch> Shizboom: mldonkey
[01:25] <Laibsch> I repartitioned my HD and made /var a separate partition.  Now /var/run and /var/lock are not mounted as tmpfs anymore.  I read through /etc/init.d/mountvirtfs but cannot seem to figure this out by myself.
[01:25] <Reimu> dli: sigh, I guess I'll have to deal with it
[01:25] <aLPHa_LeaK> ardchoille: wow :)
[01:25] <charle97> i use gnome-btdownload for torrents
[01:25] <Warbo> !banshee
[01:25] <skavenge> amarok runs fine under gnome as well
[01:25] <ubotu> Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC - also see !codecs
[01:25] <Shizboom> hmmm
[01:25] <aLPHa_LeaK> i use btdownload-headless for torrents
[01:25] <andy-> Warbo:  thx.
[01:25] <dli> Reimu, I think it's time to install debian :)
[01:25] <alinushak> how can i reset the repositories from terminal?
[01:26] <Shizboom> i gave up on getting proftp to work and am just using ssh :P
[01:26] <eragon24> how do i create a game-playing bot??
[01:26] <Warbo> andy-: Add this to Synaptic's Settings>Repository>Add>Custom box "deb http://theli.free.fr/packages/dapper/ ./"
[01:26] <Sir_Fawnpug> arooni, I'm glad to hear it. Sorry, I had to answer the phone, that whas why I did not respond immidiately.
[01:26] <GUARDiAN|nb> Shizboom: i use transmission
[01:27] <alinushak> thats a problem
[01:27] <Sir_Fawnpug> I think I'm going to open enother beer
[01:27] <alinushak> when i clic repositories the window appears and disappears
[01:27] <Shizboom> GUARDiAN|nb - happen to have a link to that?
[01:28] <andy-> Warbo: done
[01:28] <Shizboom> nm
[01:28] <arooni> ok so how do i set a static ip address that wont change (i.e. i want to connect to my linksys router.... but *always* have the ip address of 192.168.1.150  for example)
[01:28] <Warbo> andy-: If you reload then listen will be available
[01:28] <andy-> aah found it
[01:28] <andy-> thx Warbo
[01:28] <kdag> i will like to test ubuntu,
[01:28] <spades> arooni set a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces or using the network admin tool
[01:28] <kdag> i have downloaded the cd
[01:28] <ic56> eragon24: have you created other types of bots?
[01:29] <stevekl> Give it to me straight, doc: does google earth work well with linux nowadays?
[01:29] <barktpolar> Wait, can ALSA be configured by PnP soundcards?
[01:29] <Android> one other thing, what type of partition do i need to create to intall ubuntu in?
[01:29] <gteppel__> i have access to another server with nmap, how can i check if a machine a specific udp port open?
[01:29] <arooni> spades: so im int the 'network tools' part but i dont see an option
[01:29] <alinushak> my repositories window appears and disappears again when i open it
[01:29] <GUARDiAN|nb> shizboom: gotta search, wait
[01:30] <alinushak> what shall i do
[01:30] <spades> arooni network tools is something different, look for network admin
[01:30] <Warbo> Android: Logical volume, logical partition, extended partition, RAID device, etc. Anything. It can use ext2, ext3, reiserfs and xfs partitions for /
[01:30] <kdag> i have already gentoo installed on the HD, its 35gig, and im using 4 or 5, could i use the gparted inside the ubuntu liveCD installer to create a new partition out of the 35gig parition that i have?
[01:30] <spades> arooni or just run gksudo network-admin from a terminal or run dialog
[01:30] <Android> does the installer create the partitions?
[01:31] <Android> or do i need to create them manually first
[01:31] <GUARDiAN|nb> Shizboom: http://transmission.m0k.org
[01:31] <Warbo> kdag: Usually. If it doesn't work try the command line tools, since GParted isn't perfect yet :(
[01:31] <Warbo> Android: Installer does it (unless you want to use LVM)
[01:31] <Android> im not sure exactly what LVM is
[01:31] <Android> so im guessing i dont need it
[01:31] <Warbo> !lvm
[01:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about lvm
[01:32] <Warbo> nope
[01:32] <Warbo> Android: It is useful for spreading partitions over multiple devices. (Fedora uses it by default I think)
[01:32] <arooni> spades: i got it now :P thanks
[01:32] <mcphail> Android: there's a reasonable intro to LVM on debian-administration.org
[01:32] <Android> i only have 1 230 gig HD
[01:32] <Android> so no need
[01:32] <Android> i think
[01:32] <arooni> what the heck is 4.2.2.2 and why did that ip address make my ubuntu connect to the internet
[01:32] <kdag> Warbo, i havent tried cause i want to have a dual boot to have the chance to compare and all, but im courious if the gparted option will resize thise reiserfs partition withouth deleting its contents?
[01:33] <Warbo> kdag: It will not delete anything without telling you that it is going to. I haven't tried resizing a reiserfs partition with gparted before, so I don't know whether it will let you
[01:33] <SurfnKid> what the heck are the dropplets for with SHFT + F9 on XGL
[01:34] <eragon24> will some1 tell me a place where i can get basic programming codes for a game-playing bot??
[01:34] <josh> where can i get the xgl package?
[01:34] <SurfnKid> sup spades
[01:34] <mrmania> how did u get XGL running?
[01:34] <h4v0k> i need a question answered
[01:34] <spades> arooni 4.2.2.2 is level3 dns server
[01:34] <SurfnKid> josh,  are you on Dapper
[01:34] <kdag> ok Warbo tx for sharing your experinces
[01:34] <kdag> :)
[01:34] <josh> im going to be as soon as this dist-upgrade is done
[01:34] <mrmania> how do you get XGL running on Dapper?
[01:34] <Warbo> !xgl
[01:34] <h4v0k> i a pkg i get has a debian binary file in it how do i make it work
[01:34] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:34] <kdag> good begining in my ubuntu experience
[01:34] <eragon24> will some1 tell me a place where i can get basic programming codes for a game-playing bot??
[01:35] <Warbo> h4v0k: dpkg -i packagename.deb ?
[01:35] <SurfnKid> josh, cool then you're doing exactly the same steps i did, and it works
[01:35] <Android> how easy is it to share files between windows and linux? i think i read something about a different type of partition?
[01:35] <Warbo> !samba
[01:35] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:35] <mrmania> try using samba
[01:35] <Android> thanks
[01:35] <dli> Android, dual boot?
[01:35] <eragon24> will some1 tell me a place where i can get basic programming codes for a game-playing bot??
[01:35] <h4v0k> Warbo, yeah but it doesnt have an extention (.deb) is it still the same
[01:35] <odla> does anyone know a nice green metacity theme like suse's chlorophyll?  i can't seem to find one anywhere
[01:36] <mcphail> eragon24: this is the wrong channel. See /topic
[01:36] <mrmania> does anyone know where to get a BASIC compiler for Dapper?
[01:36] <eragon24> thnx
[01:36] <Android> sorry, yea i was meaning dual boot
[01:36] <Android> rather than networking
[01:36] <Warbo> h4v0k: Well a Debian (or Ubuntu) package usually ends in .deb. If not then it probably isn't a Debian package
[01:37] <eragon24> mcphail: it says theres no such channel as /topic
[01:37] <dli> Android, fat is the stable way, you can install ext2fsd in windows also
[01:37] <mcphail> Android: create a FAT partition
[01:37] <Android> do i do that during the installer?
[01:37] <Android> or manually?
[01:37] <josh> man i cant wait till i get my enterprise 3000 and can back all my crap up on it and then do a computer reformat/reinstall of ubuntu dapper
[01:37] <eragon24> mcphail: it says theres no such channel as /topic
[01:38] <josh> eragon24: thats because there is no channel called /topic
[01:38] <Warbo> h4v0k: Android either. Probably easier in the installer
[01:38] <josh> all channels will be #channelname
[01:38] <h4v0k> k
[01:38] <Warbo>  /join #channel I think
[01:38] <josh> so even if there is a "topic" channel... u aint gonna find it with a .
[01:38] <dli> Android, you can make the fat partition in windows also
[01:38] <eragon24> mcphail said there was
[01:38] <Android> aright, will windows recognise a FAT partition by default?
[01:38] <mcphail> eragon24: type in "/topic" - you will see that this channel is not for discussing gaming bots
[01:38] <josh> eragon24: try /join #topic
[01:38] <Android> or do i need to reconfigure something?
[01:39] <josh> and by topic i think he meant whatever you were trying to learn about
[01:39] <Warbo> Android: It will be given some stupid random letter in My Computer like always (which will probably change after every reboot, making path names break)
[01:39] <josh> (ie- i wanna know perl... /join #perl)
[01:40] <Android> alright
[01:40] <Android> thanks for all your help
[01:40] <eragon24> "/topic"
[01:40] <Android> i think im pretty much ready to go tomorroe
[01:40] <Warbo> Android: Make sure it is one of your first 3 partitions though
[01:40] <Android> *w
[01:40] <SonicChao> eragon24: No quotes
[01:40] <Android> why does it need to be in the first 3?
[01:40] <Android> windows?
[01:41] <Warbo> Android: PC partition tables can only hold 4 partitions, so the last one is usually made to fill the rest of the device and then "extended" partitions are made INSIDE that one. I don't think Windows understands this, so make it one of the first three
[01:42] <Android> ah
[01:42] <SurfnKid> any idea as to why 1. amaroK is now crashing like never before, and 2. XGL/Compiz restarts on its own suddenly
[01:42] <Warbo> SurfnKid: Maybe because they are both unstable? :)
[01:42] <SurfnKid> after I did a dist-upgrade
[01:42] <SonicChao> SurfnKid: XGL, at #ubuntu-xgl
[01:42] <Warbo> SurfnKid: Is it amarok 1.4.1?
[01:42] <SurfnKid> Warbo, but amaroK was super stable on Breezy
[01:42] <SonicChao> SurfnKid: and, um, I think there is an #amarok channel
[01:42] <SurfnKid> SonicChao, ok thx
[01:42] <SurfnKid> oh dang
[01:42] <SurfnKid> heh
[01:42] <dou213> hey,when is automatix 2 out?
[01:42] <SurfnKid> let me check Warbo
[01:43] <Warbo> dou213: The later the better
[01:43] <apokryphos> dou213: /msg ubotu automatix
[01:43] <dou213> Warbo, why?
[01:43] <SonicChao> dou213: Automatix???????
[01:43] <SonicChao> dou213: Don't use it...it destroys systems </hint>
[01:43] <SurfnKid> 1.39
[01:43] <SurfnKid> 1.3.9
[01:43] <Warbo> dou213: Well, Automatix 1 seems to screw systems up pretty well. What extra crap does 2 have?
[01:43] <SonicChao> SurfnKid: upgrade amaroK i guess...
[01:43] <Warbo> SurfnKid: OK, just that Amarok 1.4.1 is VERY new
[01:43] <dou213> yes, but i've heard they want to make compiz in it
[01:44] <SonicChao> dou213: Oh good lord...
[01:44] <SonicChao> dou213: This channel will be filled like never before!
[01:44] <mcphail> compiz is quite good at destroying systems as well...
[01:44] <apokryphos> !amarok
[01:44] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[01:44] <SurfnKid> ok thx, I gotta figure out a few things, like why is gstreamer not an option on the output anymore, synaptic shows it as loaded, mmm funny hehe
[01:44] <SonicChao> mcphail: yes it is...
[01:44] <Warbo> dou213: Wow, so the ARE planning to screw up more systems? I wonder how they will implement XGL? Probably delete a few config files, overwrite some libraries.....
[01:44] <SurfnKid> brb
[01:44] <dou213> haha
[01:45] <SonicChao> Warbo: No, they'll replace 'sources.list' with 'AUTOMATIX PWNS YOU. THIS IS A BUG. LOL"
[01:45] <apokryphos> dou213: easyubuntu is a decent enough alternative (/msg ubotu easyubuntu)
[01:46] <dou213> tried that... i just try to make my compiz to work... that's why i hope automatix will make it
[01:46] <SonicChao> dou213: Why you want Compiz is FAR BEYOND me.
[01:46] <GigaClon> how can I disable the alt- move behavior?
[01:46] <dou213> hmm... because of the eye-candies
[01:46] <SonicChao> dou213: Useless eyecandy...I knew it
[01:46] <SonicChao> XD
[01:47] <apokryphos> it's not really useless
[01:47] <SonicChao> This Celeron M processor would catch on fire with Compiz...
[01:47] <dou213> well, depends on ur system, that's right
[01:47] <apokryphos> there are clear useful accessibility enchancments (zoom, expose-type feature, better visualisation of desktops for new users) etc
[01:47] <Warbo> I for one LOVE being forced into a single line of desktops
[01:47] <olrrai_X> any know a good pxes image to boot a virtual machine ?
[01:47] <SonicChao> apokryphos: You serious?
[01:48] <SurfnKid> SonicChao, catch on fire why? whats the speed
[01:48] <SonicChao> apokryphos: All I've seen was a stupid cube
[01:48] <apokryphos> SonicChao: deadly
[01:48] <SonicChao> SurfnKid: You don't even want to know
[01:48] <SonicChao> SurfnKid: Pretty fast...but it has crappy fans
[01:48] <apokryphos> SonicChao: then you didn't try it properly, or didn't take note of the usefulness of the demos. Some of the things are incredibly useful.
[01:48] <SurfnKid> is it on a Dell?
[01:48] <SonicChao> SurfnKid: Gotta be replaced
[01:48] <SurfnKid> oh
[01:48] <apokryphos> and there's nothing wrong with a sweet tooth, too ;-)
[01:48] <SonicChao> SurfnKid: HP Laptop
[01:48] <SonicChao> apokryphos: ;)
[01:48] <SurfnKid> I see
[01:49] <SonicChao> apokryphos: I was just saying...we don't recommend Automatix, at least I don't...
[01:49] <archetypo> is an ethernet crossover cable required to connect to lans (they have auto sensing uplink on each port)
[01:49] <apokryphos> SonicChao: sure, I don't too.
[01:49] <GigaClon> how i can disable alt moving the window around so I can use the alt button as the program wants to
[01:49] <odla> does anyone know how to add photos to an ipod nano?
[01:49] <archetypo> it seems to be working for the most part without but there's some whacky stuff going on
[01:49] <SurfnKid> SonicChao, I dont think Compiz uses a lot of cpu, i think it uses more of the GPU power, but then again i really dont know eevery bit of how it was programmed
[01:49] <rathe> how do you delete a export when u make one
[01:49] <SurfnKid> odla, definitely not
[01:49] <SonicChao> SurfnKid: Is it GPL?
[01:49] <SurfnKid> odla, go to #ipod channel
[01:49] <Warbo> SurfnKid: I know it works on 32MB TNT2 cards
[01:49] <mcphail> SonicChao: compiz doesn't use much cpu
[01:50] <SurfnKid> GPL?
[01:50] <SonicChao> SurfnKid: The General Public License....
[01:50] <SurfnKid> Warbo, yeah so i keep hearing
[01:50] <SonicChao> How could a Linux user not know what that stands for?
[01:50] <SonicChao> :O
[01:50] <apokryphos> mcphail: depends on  your card, and what you're doing with it.
[01:50] <apokryphos> !gpl
[01:50] <ubotu> gpl is the GNU General Public License. See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
[01:50] <SurfnKid> SonicChao, but what were you referring to with GPL...
[01:51] <SonicChao> SurfnKid: I met, is it licensed under the GPL
[01:51] <SurfnKid> mcphail, yep it doesnt, but i still wonder why my X restarts
[01:51] <SonicChao> SurfnKid: I'd like to look at the source, is what I mean
[01:51] <SurfnKid> SonicChao, wouldnt know hehe
[01:51] <SurfnKid> ah
[01:51] <mcphail> 0.0%, according to top
[01:51] <GigaClon> I need to use the alt key in a program but when I try to use it, it move the windows instead, can anyone help
[01:51] <SurfnKid> mmm good question, its worth having a look
[01:52] <SurfnKid> mcphail, figured out what the F9 thru F12 keys do for XGL? they drive me nuts i have no idea what each do
[01:52] <SonicChao> SurfnKid: I'll go look
[01:52] <mcphail> SonicChao: not sure if it is GPL, but it is certainly open source. Novell are becoming the good guys.
[01:53] <msarmet> Hi there! I'm trying to make my wireless card work, but I'm having problems...
[01:53] <SurfnKid> SonicChao, wicked,
[01:53] <SurfnKid> Novell rocks
[01:53] <mcphail> SurfnKid: play around with the keybindings in gconf-editor
[01:53] <Warbo> F12 does stuff in Compiz? Would that interfere with F12-G and F12-F type key combos in EUAE?
[01:53] <SurfnKid> msarmet, whats the kind of card
[01:53] <msarmet> It's an INPROCOMM IPN2220
[01:53] <SurfnKid> mcphail, duhh i keep forgetting theyre there
[01:53] <SurfnKid> msarmet, Intel 2200b/g?
[01:53] <SonicChao> mcphail: Ok...just was curious...I like vieweing source as a hobby :D
[01:54] <msarmet> SurfnKid: Yes
[01:54] <DaReD3VIL> hello, im trying to install ubuntu 5.x and i am haveing problems with screen resulution with the boot-cd. i tryed to change it but i will not change. please help :)
[01:54] <SonicChao> mcphail: Especially of the most interesting programs...
[01:54] <SurfnKid> SonicChao, you're the type to keep around when sh** happens and can debug stuff arent ya :] 
[01:54] <SurfnKid> !Intel2200
[01:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about Intel2200
[01:54] <mcphail> SonicChao: a very worthy hobby ;)
[01:54] <Oddzball> Hey
[01:54] <msarmet> SurfnKid: I found the driver neti2220.inf (windows XP driver) and tried to install it with ndiswrapper, but it didn't work
[01:55] <grimboy> DaReD3VIL, 5.x has a textual installer, so resolution shouldn't matter.
[01:55] <SurfnKid> msarmet, are you on dapper?
[01:55] <Oddzball> Support channel people, hows it going, i really really need some help.
[01:55] <DaReD3VIL> thanks i will try that
[01:55] <SonicChao> Oddzball: Please ask the question
[01:55] <SurfnKid> Oddzball, shoot
[01:55] <Oddzball> I cant get dual head working on my notebook
[01:55] <SonicChao> mcphail: Just starting learning...can't debug stuff yet...
[01:55] <dli> SurfnKid, ipw2200
[01:55] <SonicChao> mcphail: I like Open Source 'cause it is a good resource for code...
[01:55] <msarmet> surfnkid, I'm starting linux, so I don't know...
[01:56] <SurfnKid> dli thx
[01:56] <Oddzball> abd ive tried a lot of things
[01:56] <SurfnKid> !ipw2200
[01:56] <GUARDiAN|nb> !ipw2200
[01:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about ipw2200
[01:56] <SurfnKid> mm
[01:56] <Dial_tone> I need some new oreilly books on cd/html
[01:56] <dli> !anything
[01:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything
[01:56] <GUARDiAN|nb> !yourmomma
[01:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about yourmomma
[01:56] <dli> can someone disable the stupid " I know nothing " responce
[01:56] <SonicChao> GUARDiAN|nb: Unnecessary
[01:56] <SurfnKid> do you know anythingg about anything
[01:56] <grimboy> Oddzball, At the risk of sounding like a noob I'm gonna ask. What is dual head?
[01:56] <SonicChao> Please don't do it again
[01:56] <SurfnKid> :P
[01:57] <Oddzball> Dualhead is running two monitors
[01:57] <GUARDiAN|nb> sorry
[01:57] <NeverSayNever> hello..I have installed Ubuntu with VMWare.It's ok but i have a problem with my keyboard layout.i can not use my ALTGR key...
[01:57] <DaReD3VIL> is their a driver for Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG  so it will work on ubuntu ?
[01:57] <SurfnKid> someone smack IPW2200 out of ubotu for msarmet please
[01:57] <msarmet> surfnKid, :) I Know I'm using 5.10 Ubuntu...
[01:57] <Oddzball> Im a linux newb too, but they call it dualhead for some reason
[01:57] <dli> SonicChao, there's no need for ubotu to write that message to channel
[01:57] <GUARDiAN|nb> DaReD3VIL: yes... it's already included (at least with dapper)
[01:58] <SurfnKid> msarmet, DaReD3VIL you both need the same driver I presume, try ubuntuforums.org or the Wiki
[01:58] <SonicChao> dli: True...it would reduce spam...it should say nothing when it knows nothing...you're right
[01:58] <dli> DaReD3VIL, sudo modprobe ipw2200
[01:58] <Oddzball> Anyway SonicChao, isnt there a command you can type in the terminal for the linux kernal that has  GUI interface for setting up DualHead?
[01:58] <SonicChao> dli: In this chan, when someone asks a question, I don't say "I know nothing about _________"....that's a good point.
[01:58] <msarmet> surfnKid, ok, I'll try that. Thanks!
[01:58] <SonicChao> Oddzball: not that i know of
[01:58] <GUARDiAN|nb> SonicChao: users may be tempted to issue the !command again, if the bot doesn't say anything because they think its broken or something
[01:58] <josh> hey... doing this dist-upgrade... is it going to reinstall all my mp3 codecs and all that? i saw it dling the gstreamers but i dont know if it is just going to keep the package on the comp or actually install it
[01:59] <SurfnKid> msarmet, npz
[01:59] <DaReD3VIL> thx dli
[01:59] <abo> what program do we use to record a cd ?
[01:59] <SonicChao> josh: If it doesn't, use EasyUbuntu
[01:59] <SonicChao> !easyubuntu > josh
[01:59] <josh> nah
[01:59] <dli> DaReD3VIL, you can put ipw2200 in /etc/modules
[01:59] <mcphail> SonicChao: xgl is not gpl, but source is free. See http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/xorg/hw/xgl/xgl.h?revision=1.19.2.1&view=markup&pathrev=xgl-0-0-1
[01:59] <josh> easyubuntu screwed me last time i tried it... same with that... oh what was it called.... automatix
[01:59] <andy-> wow, 'Listen' is amazing.
[01:59] <grimboy> Oddzball, What graphics card are you using?
[01:59] <_DjScrew_> can anyone help me install linksys wusb54g drivers on my fresh install, i don't have another internet connection
[02:00] <dli> abo, k3b from kde is the easiest, sudo apt-get install k3b
[02:00] <GigaClon> I need to use the alt key in a program but when I try to use it, it move the windows instead, can anyone help
[02:00] <grimboy> abo, yeah k3b is awesome, very nero like.
[02:00] <SurfnKid> josh, seems everything upgraded fine, no need to install w32 codecs, just figuring out amaroK keeps crashing, but everything was just working a OK
[02:00] <odla> !R
[02:00] <dli> _DjScrew_, I think it's rt2500, try: sudo modprobe rt2500
[02:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about !R
[02:00] <SonicChao> mcphail: Oh, thanks. I wonder what language that is in...:)
[02:01] <SonicChao> mcphail: probably C...
[02:01] <grimboy> hmm
[02:01] <mcphail> SonicChao: looks like plain old C to me
[02:02] <l_r> ok. i am compiling the kernel with make deb-pkg
[02:02] <DaReD3VIL> this is my first time useing GUI for linux
[02:03] <l_r> i hope the deb package will take care of grub , links to source dir, and so on..
[02:03] <kubuntuneuling> I have the following problem: when I boot my pc it boots normally but sticks in vt1 even though X is loaded as normal in vt7 and I can switch to it with ctrl+alt+f7. what can I do?
[02:03] <GigaClon> I need to use the alt key in a program but when I try to use it, it move the windows instead doing what the program does, can anyone help
[02:03] <SonicChao> Got to go...bye
[02:03] <SurfnKid> l_r, grub! thanx for remindin me i gotta change some stuff there
[02:03] <SurfnKid> SonicChao, cyas
[02:03] <dli> l_r, sudo update-grub
[02:03] <_DjScrew_> dli: will this work without any other form of internet connection
[02:04] <ryanakca> For some reason "HTTP_PROXY=http://localhost:4001" keeps on showing up in "env". each time I have to run "export -n HTTP_PROXY". Is there a way to make it permanent (so that it doesn't keep on showing up)?
[02:04] <dli> _DjScrew_, should be so, but I'm not sure about the chipset
[02:04] <l_r> dli, thanks i'll use that if deb-pkg wont update by itself eventually
[02:04] <any> Hi
[02:04] <_DjScrew_> they say it has the broadcom chipset
[02:04] <_DjScrew_> but all the methods i seen of installing them would require another form of connection
[02:04] <dli> _DjScrew_, then, sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[02:05] <alinushak> hi
[02:05] <alinushak> i have a problem with synaptic
[02:05] <l_r> _DjScrew_, do you have problems with your broadcom wifi device?
[02:05] <josh> dapper comes with ssh enabled right?
[02:05] <dli> _DjScrew_, it should give you an interface, then, you need to configure it up
[02:05] <josh> lol i hope so cuz if it dont... im screwed till i get home... :(
[02:05] <_DjScrew_> l_r: i'm trying to install a linksys wusb54g
[02:05] <_DjScrew_> i have no other internet connection
[02:05] <TokenBad> anyone got ut goty iso to mount in ubuntu?
[02:05] <alinushak> he cannpt mark for instalation
[02:05] <dli> josh, not with the server, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[02:06] <shinmen> I'm aving problems with a Soundblaster Live! 24 bits. The mixer works, but I can't play any audio on it.
[02:06] <dli> TokenBad, sudo mount -oloop foo.iso /mnt/foo
[02:06] <l_r> _DjScrew_, make sure to use wpa_assistant, becouse the bcm driver does not support wpa
[02:06] <josh> crap
[02:06] <shinmen> Esd is up, but even if I try using something that doesn't uses esd, it still fails. This is the strace to ogg123
[02:06] <josh> so when im done with this dist-upgrade i wont be able to log back into my comp till i get home?!
[02:06] <shinmen> )  = 000:00.02 [03:29.27]  of 03:29.29  (126.1 kbps)  Output Buffer 100.0%
[02:06] <shinmen> futex(0xb7746014, FUTEX_WAKE, 1)        = 0
[02:06] <shinmen> read(3, "w\257U\241\311\362\323%\267\371\341\344Ny\307\205\3378"..., 4096) = 4096
[02:06] <shinmen> read(3, "\277\305>m\331.\5\253\33_\21\373!=\335\251W\357w<\357."..., 4096) = 4096
[02:06] <shinmen> futex(0xb7746060, FUTEX_WAIT, 3, NULL
[02:06] <_DjScrew_> l_r: further explanation please?
[02:06] <jin6093> hm... hi
[02:06] <_DjScrew_> i'm new to ubuntu
[02:06] <shinmen> And it just halts there.
[02:06] <DaReD3VIL> What is the best/fastest GUI torrent-client to use with linux ?
[02:07] <josh> azeureus
[02:07] <josh> azureus
[02:07] <dli> DaReD3VIL, what about qtorrent
[02:07] <jesse_> hey does anyone know of an alternative to ms publisher? openoffice doesn't seem to have one.
[02:07] <l_r> _DjScrew_, if you use wpapsk as accessing method, make sure to configure wpa_assistant
[02:07] <DaReD3VIL> i thought it was windope-only dli ?
[02:07] <TokenBad> dli, I did that...gives error...
[02:07] <josh> does qtorrent support peerless dl's?
[02:07] <_DjScrew_> l_r no security sir
[02:07] <shinmen> jesse_, scribus.
[02:07] <jesse_> shinmen, thank you
[02:08] <l_r> oh..hehe i am paranoic sometimes
[02:08] <l_r> heh
[02:08] <_DjScrew_> yeah
[02:08] <_DjScrew_> well i'm going to give it a shot
[02:08] <josh> l_r about what?
[02:08] <_DjScrew_> thanks l_r
[02:08] <shinmen> jesse_, No problem.
[02:08] <_DjScrew_> dli: thank you also
[02:08] <l_r> josh, about security issues
[02:08] <josh> u dont want the paparatzi watching u? :P
[02:09] <l_r> heh correct
[02:09] <josh> ahh...
[02:09] <josh> lol
[02:09] <jesse_> shinmen: do you know if it can save to the ms format?
[02:09] <josh> yeah... the press can get annoying... cant fart in public without being in the paper... yeah...
[02:09] <josh> jesse... publisher is webpages right?
[02:10] <jesse_> josh, no publisher is like newspaper articles
[02:10] <DaReD3VIL> what do you mean josh, the press violates your security?
[02:10] <shinmen> jesse_, exports to EPS, PDF, SVG and image. Maybe ms users can import something from those.
[02:10] <rathe> could someone explain to me how to do step 10 on here http://terror.snm-hgkz.ch/gaming/linux/epsxe_howto/
[02:10] <josh> DaReD3VIL: oh yeah... pictures of ball scratching, peeing on the walls... all that :P
[02:10] <rathe> when i try it i get a path issue
[02:11] <rathe> bash: cd: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games: No such file or directory
[02:11] <jesse_> shinmen: maybe it can import pdf's well ill find out its not that much of a problem just would be nice if i needed to edit something at school
[02:11] <rathe> anyone pls help
[02:11] <DaReD3VIL> how long does it take to partition an 80gb hdd ?
[02:11] <josh> jesse... well you can always save as .txt and reconvert at school
[02:11] <shinmen> jesse_, Apart from taking an Ubuntu LiveCD, you could take the installer for Windows. http://wiki.scribus.net/index.php/Installing_Scribus_on_Win32
[02:12] <TokenBad> anyone got ut goty iso to mount in ubuntu?
[02:12] <josh> DaReD3VIL: depends on what program
[02:12] <rathe> well?
[02:12] <Magdiel> DaReD3VIL: depends
[02:12] <jramsey> fast one i hope; i've inserted a cd, a gnome browse window came up, all is well; i killed the browse window and want to remove the cd but the drive won't open (cd is still mounted??) easiest way to open the drive??
[02:12] <dli> DaReD3VIL, partition is just the partition table, it takes the same time no matter the capacity
[02:12] <DaReD3VIL> on ubuntu install cd
[02:12] <Magdiel> when Ubuntu loads, there appears a screen with Ubuntu written on it!  CAn this logo be changed?
[02:12] <DaReD3VIL> alright, just curious
[02:13] <mikere> DaReD3VIL: partitioning takes very little time - formatting after partitioning can take somewhat longer =)
[02:13] <dli> DaReD3VIL, ext[2/3]  will write ione tables, it takes a while (minutes)
[02:13] <jesse_> shinmen: yeah i could always do that but the school trys hard to stop people from installing programs lol, but its quite easy to bypass stupid windows
[02:13] <dli> DaReD3VIL, jfs is super fast, and you can use jfs
[02:13] <Magdiel> mikere: when Ubuntu loads, there appears a screen with Ubuntu written on it!  CAn this logo be changed?
[02:14] <NeverSayNever> i installed gcc with synaptic.now i want to compile a small program but it gives error.
[02:14] <NeverSayNever> simplescan.c:2:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[02:14] <NeverSayNever> simplescan.c:3:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
[02:14] <NeverSayNever> simplescan.c:4:20: error: unistd.h: No such file or directory
[02:14] <shinmen> jesse_, Well, it's free software. You could advocate a little bit so that they understand what is that you are installing and the whole idea behind free software.
[02:14] <DaReD3VIL> im already partitioning on the ubuntu install cd
[02:14] <DaReD3VIL> with i mean*
[02:14] <NeverSayNever> how can it not stdio.h???
[02:14] <shinmen> NeverSayNever, Should be on libc6-dev
[02:15] <NeverSayNever> shinmen, u mean i should install that?
[02:15] <shinmen> NeverSayNever, Yeap.
[02:15] <mikere> Magdiel: I would expect it could be changed as linux is like that - but I don't know off hand how to do so myself.  I bet you could google up an answer fairly quickly however
[02:16] <NeverSayNever> ok thanks a lot shinmen.
[02:16] <shinmen> NeverSayNever, build-essential as well.
[02:16] <shinmen> NeverSayNever, No problem.
[02:16] <NeverSayNever> build-essential?
[02:16] <NeverSayNever> what does it mean?
[02:16] <userundefine> Magdiel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[02:16] <NeverSayNever> and i think libc6-dev is for C.but what about C++?
[02:17] <angasule> how do I set the locale for the console?
[02:17] <jesse_> NeverSayNever: you need build-essential if your going to compile/build from source
[02:18] <NeverSayNever> jesse_,i'm apt-get'ting it
[02:18] <rathe> can someone take 5 min to help me with a problem in private
[02:18] <jesse_> NeverSayNever: ok
[02:18] <aoupi> hi, everyone I just popped in too say 'ps auxf' is much more overvieable than 'ps aux' :)
[02:18] <rathe> i need to pm it so u get all of it
[02:18] <Shannon1> hi everyone,, i need a little help with my new installation of ubuntu 6.06
[02:18] <GigaClon> I need to use the alt key in a program but when I try to use it, it move the windows instead doing what the program does, can anyone help?
[02:19] <rathe> PLEASE?
[02:19] <aoupi> rathe: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and everyone can help
[02:19] <rathe> no
[02:19] <NeverSayNever> jesse_, what about C++ ?you know which package should i get to compile c++ code?
[02:19] <Shannon1> can anyone give me a little hand.. please
[02:19] <spades> rathe whats the problem? i think the collective room can pitch in more than just 1 person
[02:19] <rathe> sigh w/e, here goes agian
[02:20] <rathe> im installing somethen i got to step 10 here, http://terror.snm-hgkz.ch/gaming/linux/epsxe_howto/
[02:20] <jme> NeverSayNever: g++
[02:20] <rathe> when i do $PATH i get this /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[02:20] <rathe> i dont understand how to do, what it asks
[02:20] <DaReD3VIL> is that a game server rathe?
[02:21] <rathe> Well STEP 10 of STEP 5
[02:21] <MrRio> How do I change the modified time of a file?
[02:21] <rathe> its for emulating psx games
[02:21] <jme> rathe: it just means to copy the file to any of the directories named in your $PATH
[02:21] <aoupi> rathe: you have /usr/local/bin in your path
[02:21] <jme> rathe: /usr/local/bin will work fine
[02:21] <rathe> i dont got a %PATH
[02:21] <rathe> i cant go in /bin
[02:21] <rathe> im confused
[02:21] <rathe> :(
[02:22] <apokryphos> rathe: mkdir ~/bin and put it there
[02:22] <aoupi> raphael: /bin is only for important stuff, don't touch that unless you know what you are doing
[02:22] <nemik> so those of you who use eclipse? how can i copy a line with ctrl+alt+up without gnome switiching my workspace?
[02:22] <smo> MrRio: 'touch filename' will give a 'now' timestamp.  the -t option will let you add an arbitary timestamp
[02:22] <jme> use KDE!
[02:22] <MrRio> smo, cheers :)
[02:22] <jme> or more realistically, edit your GNOME keymapping
[02:22] <aoupi> nemik: can't you change keyboard shortcuts in gnome or eclipse?
[02:23] <rathe> jme:
[02:23] <jme> rathe:
[02:23] <nemik> aoupi: not sure, that's why i'm asking
[02:23] <rathe> im in my /usr/local/bin
[02:23] <rathe> theres nothen in there
[02:23] <LGKeiz> ew
[02:23] <rathe> what do i do
[02:23] <jme> well, that's ok
[02:23] <LGKeiz> MVware + ubuntu = lagtastic
[02:23] <Shannon1> no-one out of 768 users can give a hand to a newbee when she ask,, oufffff c pas drole ca,,
[02:23] <kakei> i am on a liveCd trying to recover my grub,when i do grub-install /dev/sda (i got sata) i get : /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[02:23] <kakei>  any idea?
[02:23] <apokryphos> rathe: it tells you exactly what to do. Put a file with taht code in there
[02:23] <jme> !patience
[02:23] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:23] <LGKeiz> Does anyone know how to speed up the process with VMware *
[02:23] <linux_user400354> what does it mean when there is a ~ in a url?
[02:23] <apokryphos> linux_user400354: try it; in a terminal, do: echo ~
[02:23] <jme> rathe: well, that's ok -- your shell will still look in that directory for executables
[02:24] <Shannon1> thx ubotu,, ill remember,,
[02:24] <rathe> i get error permission denied
[02:24] <spades> linux_user400354 in a url usually means its running the site from the userdir outside of his domain, usually used when proper vhost isnt made or to avoid bandwidth calculations on some control panels
[02:24] <apokryphos> rathe: /msg ubotu root
[02:24] <linux_user400354> apokryphos, should people be able to see your home directory from the web?
[02:25] <LGKeiz> Does anyone know how to speed up the process with VMware *
[02:25] <apokryphos> linux_user400354: why do you think they can?
[02:25] <Sir_Fawnpug> Is anybody having trouble with libresidbuilder with dapper?
[02:25] <rathe> i was told i cant go in root
[02:25] <rathe> on this
[02:25] <rathe> just sudo
[02:25] <apokryphos> rathe: /msg ubotu root
[02:25] <m0rph> 3
[02:25] <MrRio> smo, I'm guessing this doesn't work for date created?
[02:25] <linux_user400354> apokryphos i dont know. i am confused
[02:26] <apokryphos> linux_user400354: the character is just a shortcut for $HOME, which is /home/user
[02:26] <Sir_Fawnpug> It's telling me its trying to overwrite a file that's in the package
[02:26] <spades> linux_user400354 look into openbasedir or something like that, it disables ~user from getting web access
[02:26] <apokryphos> linux_user400354: on your computer echo ~ gives something, and on mine it's something different. Just think of it as a variable.
[02:26] <guest> hi channel can someone tell me  im thinking of purchasing a wireless router whats the best  one  or one that will give you least trouble with ubuntu
[02:27] <apokryphos> ohhh, if you're talking about it in *that* sense, then that's something different, yes.
[02:27] <dr_willis> most routers should be ok.. its the wireless cards thats the issue.
[02:27] <apokryphos> guest: have you checked the FAQ?
[02:27] <dr_willis> I tend to stick with the larget brand names and whats on sale. :)
[02:27] <MrRio> guest, I have a linksys, no issues with cheap dell laptops and my D-link wireless cards
[02:27] <dr_willis> Yea - Dlink and Linksys are about all i use
[02:28] <dr_willis> I got a little Linksys 'mini' router for $30 that does ok.
[02:28] <guest> nope not yet ... jsut looking feedback at the min ...
[02:28] <dr_willis> dont get one with all the fancy 'new' gizmo-thangs. :P
[02:28] <jramsey> guest, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[02:28] <apokryphos> guest: yes, that's where you can get a lot of feedback from (the FAQ).
[02:28] <guest> dont know that much about  wireless
[02:28] <guest> cool ...
[02:29] <nathan> can anyone point me to a samba tutorial?
[02:29] <Shizboom> i uninstalled sun-java-jre and am now trying to reinstall and its telling me i doesn't exist, any ideas?
[02:29] <nathan> numourus google searches led me nowhere
[02:30] <apokryphos> nathan: /msg ubotu samba
[02:30] <nathan> ok
[02:30] <docta_v> nathan: you can find a howto for anything here: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/howtos.html
[02:30] <nathan> whoa, thanks
[02:31] <apokryphos> as ubotu will tell you, there's guides in the official documentation
[02:31] <jramsey> what is the pkg name that includes cvs?
[02:31] <kakei> i am on a liveCD trying to recover my grub,when i do grub-install /dev/sda (i got sata) i get : /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. any ideas?
[02:31] <apokryphos> jramsey: cvs, maybe?
[02:31] <docta_v> jramsey: try apt-cache search apt
[02:31] <docta_v> err
[02:31] <docta_v> apt-cache search cvs
[02:31] <dli> kakei, try the grub command line
[02:32] <apokryphos> kakei: pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l please
[02:32] <apokryphos> dli: that *is* the grub commandline.
[02:32] <dli> apokryphos, no
[02:32] <kakei> apokryphos, cannot open /proc/partitions
[02:32] <docta_v> jramsey: looks like it's cvsutils
[02:32] <gnomefreak> jramsey: cvs is its own package
[02:32] <apokryphos> kakei: huh? That's all you get?
[02:33] <kakei> apokryphos, yes
[02:33] <apokryphos> kakei: are you sure you did that exactly: sudo fdisk -l   (lowercase L)
[02:33] <jramsey> gnomefreak, apt-get install wants the breezy cd; anyway i can force it to load it from the web?
[02:33] <kakei> i am chrooted apokryphos will try like user
[02:33] <apokryphos> jramsey: yes, see the FAQ.
[02:33] <guest> so  if  im looking a wireless router  any well known one should work ?
[02:34] <apokryphos> kakei: no need to chroot, get out of that :P
[02:34] <gnomefreak> jramsey: put a # infront of the cdrom repos in your /etc/apt/sources.list and take the # away fromt he rest
[02:34] <apokryphos> guest: more or less, for specific success comments, see the FAQ which will guide you to the hardware section.
[02:34] <gnomefreak> !repos
[02:34] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:34] <kakei> apokryphos, k
[02:34] <jramsey> gnomefreak, ok ty
[02:34] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:35] <kakei> apokryphos, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17584
[02:35] <guest> iv a wireless internal card that does work but  im thinking  of taking windows of the xp box .... but the modem im using dosent work   welll iv tried  but gave up on it ....
[02:35] <apokryphos> kakei: which is your root?
[02:35] <kakei> sda2
[02:36] <DaReD3VIL> is it normal for a partition to take over 30mins?
[02:36] <DaReD3VIL> im useing the ubuntu bootdisk
[02:36] <dli> DaReD3VIL, no :( try jfs now
[02:36] <apokryphos> kakei: ok, do this: sudo grub, once the prompt loads: root (hd0,1) and then: setup (hd0)
[02:37] <DaReD3VIL> where is it located ?
[02:37] <MTecknology> I have mozilla firefox with the mplayer-firefox extension installed. When I open the link http://www.mp3-host.com/uploads/a4266.bdb85.mp3 it plays the file, how can I choose to download it?
[02:37] <kakei> apokryphos, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17585
[02:37] <apokryphos> kakei: is your /boot not on there?
[02:37] <M4St3RYuRI> i have a problem with amule
[02:37] <kakei> yes its
[02:38] <kakei> is it
[02:38] <M4St3RYuRI> how can i connect to the kad?
[02:38] <dli> DaReD3VIL, if you have made the partitions ( fdisk -l ), do something like: mkfs.jfs /dev/hda2 ( man mkfs.jfs first)
[02:38] <apokryphos> kakei: if it is, what have you done to it? :P
[02:38] <kakei> nothing i promess apokryphos :p
[02:38] <gnomefreak> hey will subversion pull in tars?
[02:38] <cps> MTecknology: right click and choose save to file
[02:39] <apokryphos> kakei: mount your root partition then show us a list of the files in /mount/point/wherever/boot/grub there
[02:39] <MTecknology> cps, there isn't a save to file option
[02:39] <jramsey> gnomefreak, ty that worked; quick cvs question; if i access a cvs repos. via anonymous login, should i have to enter a cvs password? it is prompting for one; this is the www.denx.de linux cvs repos.
[02:39] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: if they're in the svn repository, it should yes.
[02:39] <kakei> apokryphos, device.map  menu.lst
[02:39] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: ty
[02:39] <apokryphos> jramsey: try typing "enter"
[02:39] <gnomefreak> jramsey: dont know
[02:39] <gnomefreak> gonna try this :(
[02:40] <nathan> I have another question: every time I reboot I must re-modprobe ndiswrapper and re-activate wlan0. How can I fix this
[02:40] <apokryphos> kakei: well, something hosed up. You should have more than that
[02:41] <cps> MTecknology: try File > Save Page As
[02:41] <kakei> i no apokryphos =( i no.
[02:41] <apokryphos> kakei: that certainly wouldn't have happened from just install windoze
[02:41] <DaReD3VIL> okay, when i try and partition my drive i get this error, "Error while resizing/movineg /dev/hda1"
[02:41] <gdb> is anyone here about to install dapper on a system fresh?
[02:41] <kakei> apokryphos, =( fucking winbloze
[02:41] <gdb> or has just done so without installing any additional software other than updates?
[02:41] <nathan> gdb: I just did
[02:41] <gnomefreak> kakei: watch your language please
[02:41] <kakei> gnomefreak, sorry
[02:41] <cstrippie> Hey all, installed XGL into Gnome, but it worked poorly so I uninstalled it.  Now I have no window manager in Gnome - all windows appear in upper-left corner and cannot be moved...HELP?!??!
[02:42] <gdb> nathan: could you possibly pastebin the outout of dpkg --get-selections for me, please?
[02:42] <apokryphos> kakei: it *wouldn't* have been down to windoze, it wouldn't touch partitions like that.
[02:42] <nathan> sure
[02:42] <gdb> nathan: I'm looking for a list of packages installed by default, right off the CD, before any user customizations have occured.
[02:42] <kakei> apokryphos, i am reinstalling the kernel (chrooted)
[02:42] <gdb> nathan: Thank you very much!
[02:42] <apokryphos> kakei: reinstall grub then, too.
[02:42] <gnomefreak> wish i knew what i was doing :(
[02:43] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: what are you doing? ;-)
[02:43] <nathan> gdb:I added a few programs, sorry
[02:43] <gnomefreak> i dont know lol
[02:43] <kakei> argh
[02:43] <kakei> nothing
[02:43] <kakei> =(
[02:43] <kakei> brb
[02:43] <gdb> nathan: Ah, ok, no worries. :-)
[02:43] <nathan> Every time I reboot I must re-modprobe ndiswrapper and re-activate wlan0. How can I fix this?
[02:43] <dash`> whats a good media player for gnome?
[02:43] <odla> does anyone know how to put photos on an ipod nano in ubuntu?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> i trying to install Django 0.95 i used svn co <link> and its pulling in po files and mo files
[02:44] <apokryphos> !media
[02:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about media
[02:44] <MTecknology> cps, much love.. thanks
[02:44] <apokryphos> !players
[02:44] <nathan> dash`: totem
[02:44] <ubotu> Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC - also see !codecs
[02:44] <apokryphos> ubotu: media is <alias> players
[02:44] <dash`> I have tried XMMS [didn't like it much] , Beep is alright, Banshee wasn't great, etc
[02:44] <gnomefreak> maybe ill try python <file.py> :)
[02:45] <cps> MTecknology: no problem
[02:45] <dash`> hmm
[02:45] <dash`> Totem told me I have an error with my audio output
[02:45] <DaReD3VIL> i get an error when trying to partition my drive, do you think defragmenting it in windows will remove this error?
[02:46] <dash`> I was told sometime earlier that it would be best to have both sink and source set to ALSA, but that doesn't seem to work now
[02:46] <dash`> any suggestions?
[02:46] <GigaClon> would some one please help me with my question
[02:46] <GigaClon> I need to use the alt key in a program but when I try to use it, it move the windows instead doing what the program does, can anyone help?
[02:46] <gdb> Does anyone know of a webpage that lists those files installed by the CD?
[02:46] <gdb> well, packages
[02:46] <andy-> Silly question: how do you check what version NVidia drivers you're currently running?
[02:48] <charles_> hello, could someone tell me how to use the script that is suggested in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=108791&highlight=iwpriv+ra0+set+WPAPSK%3D%22mypasswd%22
[02:49] <apokryphos> andy-: if you installed from ubuntu it's as simple as a dpkg -l|grep nvidia, if not..... check your Xorg log, it's listed there.
[02:49] <charles_> it's not clear to me where I put that script and how to run it at boot...
[02:50] <andy-> apokryphos: thx
[02:50] <micker> hey there... having a weird problem.  I installed 5.10 on my notebook and everything worked fine at home all weekend last week.  Then on monday I took it into to work with me and once booted, the mouse and the wireless no longer work.. strangest thing.   anyone mind helping me try to fix it?
[02:50] <neon> what package includes g++ ?
[02:51] <apokryphos> neon: g++ ;-)
[02:51] <GigaClon> build-essential
[02:51] <apokryphos> neon: though you probably want build-essential
[02:51] <gnomefreak> neon: build-essential
[02:52] <neon> yup :P
[02:52] <neon> 10x
[02:52] <micker> sorry, not 5.10... I had had 5.10.. its got 6.06 on it
[02:52] <GigaClon> how can disable alt+drag window moving
[02:53] <GigaClon> my program need alt-drag and ubuntu is not letting it have it
[02:53] <cps> GigaClon: go to System>Preferences>Windows
[02:54] <rathe> whats the line command to un 7zip somethen with a password
[02:54] <Tonren> GigaClon, what do you mean by "alt + drag", exactly?
[02:55] <micker> if I do a cat /proc/bus/input/devices the touchpad doesnt even show
[02:55] <GigaClon> mouse drag
[02:55] <GigaClon> the windows pref worked
[02:56] <LjL> Tonren: dragging a window by keeping the left mouse button pressed not necessarily just on the title bar, but anywhere in a window. keeping Alt pressed during the operation allows that
[02:56] <dash`> a while back, I was told by somebody [not sure if it was here or elsewhere]  that the best setup for audio was to use ALSA for both the default sink and the default source [using Ubuntu] , but some apps don't have any sound, like Totem media player.  Any ideas why this is, or how to make it better?
[02:56] <Tonren> LjL, that is, like, the coolest thing ever.
[02:56] <cps> rathe: have a look in man 7z
[02:56] <ben_> hey is there like a media player that plays wmv's through the web browser?
[02:57] <SurfnKid> !XGL
[02:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:57] <cps> ben_: mozilla-mplayer
[02:57] <ben_> thanks
[02:58] <VR_> whats that browser called... optimized for intel/amd and such? it's a firefox spinoff.
[02:58] <dash`> fasterfox ?
[02:58] <VR_> no
[02:58] <dash`> Opera ;)
[02:58] <VR_> that's an extension.
[02:58] <VR_> nope!
[02:58] <dash`> Opera > *
[02:58] <VR_> right. ^_^
[02:59] <gnomefreak> epiphany?
[02:59] <VR_> hm, no
[02:59] <LjL> links?
[02:59] <VR_> hehe no
[02:59] <VR_> s-something
[02:59] <VR_> slyfox? no
[02:59] <LjL> seamonkey?
[02:59] <VR_> no
[02:59] <gnomefreak> seamonkey is a browser?
[02:59] <LjL> gnomefreak: it's the new name for the Mozilla suite i think
[02:59] <cps> VR_: swiftfox?
[02:59] <VR_> they have various bulids, optimized for intel, amd, etc.
[02:59] <VR_> SWIFTFOX!
[02:59] <VR_> thanks!
[03:00] <kuzmaster> hello all
[03:00] <VR_> http://getswiftfox.com/
[03:00] <VR_> yessir
[03:00] <VR_> =)
[03:01] <Vexor> wow, I would say hi, but there is way too many people in here..  I guess I will yell out a big YO!
[03:02] <eragon24> YO!
[03:02] <Vexor> haha
[03:02] <dionnow> So I can't boot up Xserver now that i've tried to install new nvidia drivers; the nvidia installer did back up my xserver setting, but how to I go about reseting them?
[03:02] <majd> !ftp
  FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[03:02] <ben_> !wmv
[03:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:02] <LjL> dionnow: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf-whateversuffixwasadded /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:02] <guest> !router
[03:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about router
[03:02] <VR_> is anything being done about flash on linux?
[03:02] <LjL> dionnow: or just run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and set it up like you want
[03:03] <ben_> VR_ to my knowledge we're still stuck with 7.0, or 6.0
[03:03] <dreamcatcher5172> i thought they had flash for linux...hrrm...
[03:03] <gnomefreak> ben_: 78
[03:03] <gnomefreak> 7.0
[03:03] <dionnow> the secothanks alot ljl
[03:03] <kuzmaster> !flash
[03:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:03] <gnomefreak> i have heard 8 will not be built for linux but 9 might be
[03:04] <ben_> that would be good
[03:04] <VR_> dreamcatcher5172: i'm aware that there is flash support, but some things won't play because they require flash 8 or 9, or what have you.
[03:04] <ben_> flash games cant be played because no text shows up
[03:04] <dionnow> Also is there a way to access my files from my HD install from the live CD?
[03:04] <MeGaQuArK> Has anyone tried to install Opera 9 yet, now that it is in the repository?
[03:04] <sharms> ben_: install gsfonts and gsfonts-x11
[03:05] <dou213> hey anoybody can help with web publishing? i have some issues i can't figure out.. like, how can i transform my http:/ip.adress in something like : www.myplace.com... i think with a DNS server running on the machine like SimpleDNS, but what about the domain name? must i get one? is it free?
[03:05] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> is there a place that only has linux extentions for firefox?
[03:05] <sharms> dou213: offtopic
[03:05] <dou213> shachaf, sry
[03:05] <spades> dou213 domains cost money, some might have some free offer but there is always a catch
[03:05] <dou213> sharms, just asking...
[03:06] <dou213> spades, can we prv? it's offtopic.
[03:06] <spades> dou213 might wanna check with your isp regarding running a server policy
[03:06] <sharms> take it to #ubuntu-offtopic guys
[03:06] <LjL> VieLGuS-KuTaS: can't you just use the standard extensions page's search options?
[03:06] <Muelli> hm. is is possible to send mails with thunderbird timeshifted?
[03:06] <dash`> what should my Multimedia Systems Selector settings be?
[03:06] <dash`> they don't mean much to me atm
[03:07] <cps> dash`: have you messed them up?
[03:07] <dash`> I don't think so
[03:08] <dash`> I was told that ALSA for both audio is best, but Totem doesn't work, and other things too
[03:08] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> LjL: i think i can
[03:08] <cps> dash`: what happens if you click the test button
[03:08] <dash`> Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'
[03:08] <dash`> on both
[03:08] <LjL> VieLGuS-KuTaS: well, since it lets you choose to only search for Linux extensions, that should do it
[03:08] <cps> dash`: set it to autodetect and try again
[03:09] <dash`> no autodetect option....
[03:09] <dr_willis>   dash`  thats ok. :P we are used to it.,
[03:09] <hakanw> if I want to make my ubuntu-server a svn-server, is the best step to use libapache2-svn ?
[03:10] <cps> dash`: it should be in the menu where you selected ALSA
[03:10] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> LjL: yeah , i figured why it doesnt work , couse im using the trunk
[03:10] <hakanw> I just apt-got it, and seems like it should be enough (except for all configuration)
[03:10] <dash`> ALSA, ESD, OSS, or custom
[03:10] <LjL> VieLGuS-KuTaS: uh?
[03:10] <cps> dash`: oh ok, try ESD then
[03:10] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> LjL: trunk is the latest alpha bulds?
[03:10] <dash`> same result
[03:11] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> LjL: of firefox3 , i think
[03:11] <cps> dash`: and OSS?
[03:11] <dash`> same
[03:11] <LjL> VieLGuS-KuTaS: oh
[03:11] <dash`> I did get a notice a bit ago that my kernel has been updated, but I have not rebooted yet, would that do it?
[03:11] <cps> dash`: do you have any programs running that use sound?
[03:12] <dash`> beep media atm, works fine
[03:12] <cps> dash`: ah I see, try closing it and then try testing the three options again
[03:12] <dash`> X-Chat doesn't seem to want to play any sound beyond the PC speaker though
[03:13] <Bdubya> anyone got any good games for linux?
[03:13] <dash`> OSS works for the default sink when everything else is off, but default source still gives errors on all of them [except 'Silence'] 
[03:13] <ljlolel> i love ubuntu!
[03:13] <Muelli> Bdubya: tetrinet :) nexuiz is more.. action ;-)
[03:14] <VR_> frozenbubble!
[03:14] <Muelli> you could play all games based on any quake engine
[03:14] <eragon24> frozenbubble is fun
[03:14] <Bdubya> thanks
[03:14] <Bdubya> i like playing monopoly but theres not many who plays
[03:14] <cps> dash`: does alsa or esd work for the sink?
[03:15] <dash`> no
[03:16] <cps> dash`: the problem with OSS is that only one program can access the sound card at a time
[03:17] <dash`> thats not so good
[03:18] <cps> dash`: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[03:18] <osfameron> it sucks
[03:18] <dash`> 5.10
[03:18] <osfameron> it means you can't receive a skype call when you're playing music
[03:19] <LjL> osfameron: complain to the smart guys at Skype who access OSS directly ;-)
[03:19] <Sasquatch> hello, anyone care to help me out?
[03:20] <rathe> HOW do u un 7zip somethen with a password
[03:20] <rathe> im tierd of trying
[03:20] <rathe> :d
[03:20] <gnomefreak> Sasquatch: state your problem or ask your question
[03:20] <rathe> i cant find ny where that says
[03:20] <Sasquatch> okay, I'm having problems getting ubuntu to boot (i'm a linux newb so bear with me)
[03:20] <Sasquatch> Grub error 17
[03:20] <cps> dash`: in System>Preferences>Sound is "Enable software mixing" checked (It might be called something like "Sound Server")
[03:21] <osfameron> LjL: yarr, I'm aware that it's skype's fault, but still sucks a bit
[03:21] <LjL> !tell osfameron about skype
[03:21] <dash`> think so
[03:21] <Muelli> osfameron: Don't use skype anyway. It's evil
[03:21] <LjL> osfameron: the article has a few tips to solve or workaround the sound problems
[03:21] <dash`> its called "Enable sound server startup<
[03:22] <osfameron> LjL: thanks :-)
[03:22] <dash`> though I don't recognize the default sound card part
[03:22] <Eleaf> How do I start the libnotify daemon??
[03:22] <Eleaf> I can't figure it out..
[03:22] <Sacro> Ubuntu seems really slow compared to Arch Linux, is it because its only i386 or is there something blatently obvious that im missing?#
[03:22] <eragon24> hola
[03:23] <Eleaf> ;S
[03:23] <eragon24> hablas espanol?
[03:23] <LjL> rathe: uhm, my 7zip just *asks* for the password. i suppose you're using the standard p7zip from the ubuntu repositories?
[03:23] <LjL> !es
[03:23] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:24] <rathe> ya
[03:24] <rathe> ...
[03:24] <rathe> can someone just give me the friggin comman d:/
[03:24] <Eleaf> rathe, for what!>?!>?
[03:24] <Eleaf> ;)
[03:24] <rathe> to unzip a 7zip file with a password
[03:24] <rathe> i know the pass
[03:24] <rathe> cant figure the command
[03:24] <rathe> iv used google etc
[03:24] <apokryphos> !behaviour
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[03:25] <ToHellWithGA> are tor servers banned here?
[03:25] <LjL> rathe: "7z e filename"
[03:25] <Eleaf> ToHellWithGA, ?
[03:25] <apokryphos> ToHellWithGA: yes
[03:25] <rathe> No
[03:25] <rathe> it dont work
[03:25] <rathe> sigh
[03:25] <rathe> it HAS a PASSword
[03:25] <Eleaf> apokryphos, what do you mean?
[03:25] <LjL> rathe: yeah. and? for me, that command merely causes 7z to prompt "Enter password:"
[03:26] <apokryphos> Eleaf: huh?
[03:26] <Eleaf> apokryphos, tor servers banned?
[03:26] <Eleaf> what?
[03:26] <linux_user400354> does ubuntu server have anything that ubuntu does not have?
[03:26] <ToHellWithGA> Eleaf: tor is the onion router, an anonymizing proxy
[03:26] <Eleaf> I know what tor is.
[03:26] <Eleaf> I use it.
[03:26] <eragon24> apokryphos: wat are tor servers?
[03:26] <Eleaf> Why in the world is it banned?
[03:26] <ToHellWithGA> are you using it now for your irc client?
[03:27] <Eleaf> not on this computer
[03:27] <apokryphos> Eleaf: maybe because it can be so easily abused
[03:27] <Eleaf> ?
[03:27] <rathe> im getting annoyed
[03:27] <garryF> man gzip
[03:27] <apokryphos> rathe: please do so silently, then.
[03:27] <Eleaf> That's very unfortunate for those of us that can't connect to irc without a proxy
[03:27] <ToHellWithGA> i figured if i ident'd with the freenode server i would be able to pop in, but that wasn't the case
[03:27] <rob> tor isn't banned, sometimes we stop connections in the event of abuse using it
[03:27] <rathe> no
[03:27] <apokryphos> Eleaf: connect through an external server.
[03:28] <rathe> people give me stupid commands that dont work :/
[03:28] <Eleaf> apokryphos, that's a proxy
[03:28] <Sasquatch> yea.. i see nothing in the banlist that would suggest tor is banned
[03:28] <Muelli> I am sitting in many channels using Tor (but I don't get cloaked :-) ) and nowhere are problems... so your argumentation fails apokryphos
[03:28] <Eleaf> apokryphos, what if you dont' "have an external server"
[03:28] <apokryphos> Eleaf: why do you need tor for that? Just tunnel the port.
[03:28] <AndyCooll_> linux_user400354: I believe it comes LAMP ready
[03:28] <LjL> rathe: perhaps, just perhaps, your file is either broken or you're doing something wrong, since for "people" those commands work perfectly?
[03:28] <Eleaf> most web hosts block access for irc
[03:28] <apokryphos> Muelli: obvioully I was only talking about cloaked tor members.
[03:28] <garryF> Like corrupted zip file
[03:28] <Eleaf> apokryphos, you think everybody has an external server?
[03:29] <Eleaf> That's absolutely rubbish
[03:29] <LjL> rathe: it would possibly help if you pastebinned the actual output from "7z e filename"
[03:29] <apokryphos> Eleaf: I never said that, I said it's a way to use IRC if your network admin has not permitted it.
[03:29] <linux_user400354> AndyCooll, do you know any other differences between them?
[03:29] <Muelli> apokryphos: but i was saying that I can't see any problem with Tor Users anyway. So there's no need for banning them :-|
[03:29] <rathe> my file isent broken
[03:29] <rathe> it wont unzip somethen with a p/w
[03:29] <rathe> and your saying im going to get a gui popup using the commandline 7z
[03:29] <rathe> which isent going to happen
[03:29] <ToHellWithGA> rathe: you're
[03:29] <hakanw> how do I make svnserve start by default, on my ubuntu-server like other daemons do in init.d?
[03:30] <rathe> ill spell like i want nazi
[03:30] <ToHellWithGA> i'm not a nazi
[03:30] <LjL> rathe: uh no, you're not going to get a GUI popup. you'll just get a prompt.
[03:30] <Muelli> hakanw: try rcconf :)
[03:30] <ToHellWithGA> and you didn't technically misspell anything
[03:30] <spades> !attitude
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[03:30] <Eleaf> meh apokryphos ;lol;
[03:30] <LjL> rathe: anyway, please just paste the output of "7z e filename" on the pastebin, so perhaps  can see what is going on
[03:30] <hakanw> Muelli: I edit that file?
[03:30] <garryF> IF the commands work for us, and not for you, something's broken, no matter what you think isn't broken.
[03:30] <hakanw> I have no rcconf command, if it's an app
[03:30] <Eleaf> apokryphos, are you familiar with the notification system, libnotify in gnome?
[03:31] <Muelli> hakanw: you are supposed to install and use that piece of software
[03:31] <apokryphos> Eleaf: nope, don't use gnome.
[03:31] <hakanw> Muelli: ah, gotcha.  thx
[03:31] <AndyCooll_> linux_user400354: Apart from that, as far as I'm aware the Server edition merely installs minus the GNOME or KDE desktop and apps
[03:31] <rob> ToHellWithGA, not really
[03:31] <hakanw> how would it be done if done manually though?
[03:31] <Eleaf> oh, well.  Any notification system I guess..
[03:31] <Eleaf> heh
[03:31] <rob> ToHellWithGA, its open 95% of the time
[03:31] <ToHellWithGA> i can deal with those odds
[03:31] <ThatOtherGuy> .... I logged in here because I gave up on Gentoo (after 40 hours of trying to get it to do what I wanted and failing), and expected to need help with Ubuntu... but I haven't. Yay!
[03:32] <Muelli> lol ThatOtherGuy *g*
[03:32] <Shizboom> i have some folders i can't delete even with root access it tells me access denied
[03:32] <hakanw> Muelli: svnserve is not available in the list there
[03:32] <ThatOtherGuy> everything just kinda works!
[03:32] <Shizboom> any ideas?
[03:32] <Muelli> oh. sure, that this services exists in /etc/init.d hakanw?
[03:33] <Sasquatch> hey, i need help booting ubuntu...
[03:33] <Sasquatch> i'm having some problems
[03:33] <shadow-be> Shizboom, read only filesystem?
[03:33] <hakanw> Muelli: no, that's why I asked how to make it do like other daemons in there
[03:33] <cps> Shizboom: what folders are these?
[03:33] <Sacro> can anyone tell me how to speed up Ubuntu, its really really slow compared to Arch Linux
[03:33] <hakanw> Muelli: I can start it manually but want it handled automatically on reboot etc
[03:33] <Muelli> Shizboom: try chmod u+w folder/
[03:33] <Shizboom> azerues made some folders
[03:33] <AndyCooll_> Shizboom: Try opening Nautilus as root and then deleting from there. "gksudo nautilus"
[03:33] <IcemanV9> anyone, i got this error message, "postconf: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory", when i issued a command "ifdown" AND "ifup". is it a bug? or can i fix it immediately?
[03:33] <Shizboom> andy i did that
[03:33] <Muelli> hakanw: svnserve is not a deamon I think. You can bind it onto a xinet.d AFAIR But read the svnbook for further instructions
[03:33] <Shizboom> no dice :/
[03:34] <shadow-be> Sacro, compared to Arch, I call gentoo slow...
[03:34] <shadow-be> but you can always shut down some services and do those prelink things...
[03:34] <AndyCooll_> Sasquatch: What boot problems? More details please
[03:34] <Sacro> shadow-be: prelink/
[03:34] <Sasquatch> Android: Grub Error 17
[03:34] <Sasquatch> whoops
[03:35] <Sasquatch> AndyCooll_: Grub Error 17
[03:35] <cps> rathe: it seems all you have to do is run "7z e NAME_OF_ARCHIVE" and it will prompt you for your password
[03:35] <LjL> cps: you're a bit late ;)
[03:35] <ToHellWithGA> cps: you could /msg him probably
[03:35] <Sasquatch> AndyCooll_: when I try the instructions to go to configfile (hd1,0)/boot/grub/grub.conf, i get a file not found...
[03:35] <id_sonic> hi, When I use "top" display the CPU use, at the head is "Cpu(s) 1.1% us", but the follow display %CPU 50% xmms" and same other tasks also CPU very high, why?
[03:36] <sharms> Sasquatch: then the file isn't there.
[03:36] <Sasquatch> (that's after i did the find /boot/grub/stage1)
[03:36] <Sasquatch> sharms: hmmm, yes... thank you, i got that much
[03:36] <sharms> Sasquatch: are you familiar with grubs (hd1,0) conventions and what that means?
[03:37] <sharms> Sasquatch: counting starts at 0, so (hd1,0) is the 2nd harddrives first partition
[03:37] <Sasquatch> sharms: yup, i am
[03:37] <jimcooncat> to prelink or not to prelink, what's everyone's opinion?
[03:37] <neon> which it's the plugin to play mp3 ?
[03:37] <Sasquatch> i'm running my windows boot on hd0 right now
[03:37] <Sasquatch> linux is definetely on hd1
[03:37] <tristil> Anyone running Edgy Eft experience a problem with the keyboard not responding after recent kernel update? I know it's my problem, but I wonder whether there's an easy workaround.
[03:37] <sharms> Sasquatch: I missed the first part of your conversation, enlighten me as to what you are doing
[03:38] <jimcooncat> neon, easyubuntu includes mp3
[03:38] <Shizboom> how do you activate autocomplete in terminal?
[03:38] <Sasquatch> sharms: trying to boot linux
[03:38] <albacker> guys tell me one tool i can use in ubuntu for designing web-pages, that might be at dreamweaver-level ?!
[03:38] <Sasquatch> sharms: i'm running grub off a floppy right now
[03:38] <sharms> Sasquatch: are you booted from CD right now?
[03:38] <Sasquatch> sharms: nope, i'm booted off a hard disk with windows
[03:38] <sharms> Sasquatch: so you want to edit your grub.conf, then you want to nano /boot/grub/grub.conf
[03:38] <linux_user400354> does anyone use irssi?
[03:39] <neon> jimcooncat, when i try to play a mp3 i get isnt audio stream.. blah blah download the plugin for it
[03:39] <Sasquatch> sharms: that's the problem... grub.conf isn't there...
[03:39] <zenpsycho> Hello. I have a number of questions, I hope that's okay.
[03:39] <tristil> albacker, There are no true wysiwyg editors that I know of. There's nvu and bluefish and screem.
[03:39] <albacker> can someone help ?!
[03:39] <tristanbob> in the cups web-interface - what credentials is it looking for? (Ubuntu 6.06)  I am trying to add a printer.
[03:39] <kuzmaster> hello all
[03:39] <tristanbob> and I get a Username/Password prompt
[03:39] <albacker> tristil, have you ever heard which of them is the best ?
[03:39] <AndyCooll_> neon: use Automatix and install all the codecs
[03:39] <sharms> Sasquatch: I am guessing your harddrive is /dev/hdb (for 2nd harddrive).  try mkdir /mount/ubuntu then mount /dev/hdb1 /mount/ubuntu
[03:40] <ThatOtherGuy> Gah. I spoke too soon about not needing help. Apparrently my sound isn't working? I heard sounds before, but only out of one speaker. When I go to sound prefs, it is trying to select my USB mic as the promary output?
[03:40] <sharms> !tell ThatOtherGuy about sound
[03:40] <jimcooncat> neon, http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[03:40] <tristil> albacker, Bluefish is nice. But like I said, they're all "tag-based".
[03:40] <Sasquatch> sharms: what does that do? and if it's sata what should i replace it with?
[03:41] <kakei> Hi, im trying to recover my grub after windows install, i am on a live cd, i tried grub-install /dev/sda but i get >> /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[03:41] <kakei>  my hard disk is sata any ideas?
[03:41] <jimcooncat> albacker, I like NVU though it's not dreamweaver caliber. Still can do what I need to with it though
[03:41] <sharms> Sasquatch: I can't tell you what it's called, but read through dmesg and you will see it
[03:41] <IcemanV9> !tell kakei about dualboot
[03:41] <tristanbob> so any ideas what credentials I need to use in the cups web interface?  I tried "root" and the sudo password
[03:41] <neon> :o
[03:42] <Sasquatch> heh
[03:42] <Sasquatch> i'll try that later sharms, thanks
[03:42] <ye11owrider311> try your first user tristanbob
[03:42] <Sasquatch> at least i can still get windows to boot :-)
[03:42] <albacker> kay tristil, jimcooncat thanks !
[03:42] <IcemanV9> tristanbob: System > Admin > Printing would be a good method to add a printer
[03:42] <kakei> i dont have a mac IcemanV9
[03:42] <sharms> Sasquatch: if I had an sata drive I could help more, but I am not aware of the naming conventions
[03:43] <hakanw> in the apache2 site conf file, what does NameVirtualHost ''' mean?
[03:43] <hakanw> (or NameVirtualHost *)
[03:43] <tristanbob> IcemanV9: ok, so the first user name, and the sudo password?  I tried that and it didn't work
[03:43] <sharms> tristanbob: your password is the sudo password
[03:43] <jrib> tristanbob: system > administration > printing is probably the best option.  If you really want the web interface, take a look at /usr/share/doc/cupsys/README.Debian.gz
[03:43] <garryF> sata is /dev/sda where a can be a through z and maybe more.
[03:43] <tristanbob> IcemanV9: I can add the printer ok, but the print job appears but doesn't print
[03:43] <linux_user400354> tristil, when could you download edgy eft? i thought it couldnt be downloaded for a while.
[03:44] <kakei> garryF, any ideas?
[03:44] <edmundo_v> Anyone here knows what is the proper way to change the locale of the system?
[03:44] <sharms> tristanbob: check the paper size from the program you print from
[03:44] <IcemanV9> tristanbob: ah. other problem then. is it on? :P
[03:44] <sharms> tristanbob: also turn the printer off and back on
[03:44] <tristanbob> IcemanV9: good question - yes it is on
[03:44] <AndyCooll_> neon: I prefer Automatix to easyubuntu. Automatix (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177646). Essentially they do a similar job in quickly setting up the basic codecs and stuff to get you going
[03:44] <tristanbob> sharms: I will try that
[03:44] <garryF> kakei I missed the question. Sorry
[03:44] <GMullen> ok I installed Windows Vista (just wanted to see if it was good enough to use yet) but I didn't even think that it would take over the MBR so now I'm in the drapper live CD and hoping there is a way to install GRUB back to the MBR
[03:44] <sharms> tristanbob: I filed a huge bug report on it, but for some reason it worked after I turned it off and back on.  Made no sense.
[03:44] <kakei> Hi, im trying to recover my grub after windows install, i am on a live cd, i tried grub-install /dev/sda but i get >> /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[03:45] <kakei> thats my question gary
[03:45] <kakei> garry
[03:45] <kuzmaster> can somone please tell me why my ubuntu 6.06 hangs on starting networking interfaces in the boot process?
[03:45] <tristanbob> sharms: is this required every time?  or once per reboot?
[03:45] <garryF> Oh, well google for grubfarm, they got a whole write up on installing grub and using it to recover.
[03:45] <sharms> tristanbob: I haven't had to do it since, but who knows.  I generally leave my printer on 24/7 so I hope not
[03:45] <kuzmaster> if i disable ra0 being the deafult network device, it boots fine
[03:45] <tristanbob> sharms: I am just trying to get the test page to work
[03:45] <AndyCooll_> kuzmaster: Have you got both wireless and ethernet?
[03:45] <kuzmaster> so, can anyone help me?
[03:45] <tristanbob> sharms: it is an HP PSC 2110
[03:46] <kuzmaster> yeah
[03:46] <sharms> tristanbob: mine was also an HP
[03:46] <kakei> garryF, Grubfarm??
[03:46] <garryF> kakei yep
[03:46] <kuzmaster> but i cant use ethanet, cos im 2 far away from the router
[03:46] <IcemanV9> tristanbob: so is mine (HP)
[03:46] <sharms> kuzmaster: it is looking for a dhcp server, but you don't have one
[03:46] <kuzmaster> hmmmm, ok
[03:46] <AndyCooll_> kuzmaster: this is because your ethernet and wireless are looking for the same connection
[03:46] <kuzmaster> ok, so i should disable eth0?
[03:46] <sharms> tristanbob: also did you update to the newest cups packages?  There was an update either today or yesterday
[03:46] <kakei> garryF, O.O http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&lr=&q=grubfarm&btnG=Search
[03:46] <AndyCooll_> kuzmaster: You need to disable one
[03:47] <AndyCooll_> kuzmaster: yes
[03:47] <garryF> kakei Your install disk might have a recovery mode too, might be easier.
[03:47] <ToHellWithGA> rob: right now if i try to connect via tor i am told i'm banned
[03:47] <tristanbob> sharms: yes, I saw those - and yes I updated
[03:48] <linux_user400354> how can i connect to freenode using irssi?
[03:48] <ToHellWithGA> is that just because the ban list is a little old and somebody who previously used tor *was* banned?
[03:48] <rob> ToHellWithGA, not sure why, its unblocked
[03:48] <ToHellWithGA> linux_user400354: type "/server irc.freenode.net" in irssi
[03:48] <sharms> ToHellWithGA, rob: #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:49] <neon> AndyCooll_, nice thanks
[03:50] <AndyCooll_> neon: you are welcome
[03:51] <sharms> tristanbob: any luck?
[03:51] <neon> AndyCooll_, all be ok, but they dont have for ati drivrs :P
[03:51] <tristanbob> sharms: no - the test page job is just sitting there - not printing
[03:52] <sharms> tristanbob: do you know how to file a bug report?
[03:52] <tristanbob> sharms: yes - but you would think basic printing should be working - perhaps I am doing something wrong
[03:52] <firstc624> i have a question about the update manager.  I get an error whenever it trys to update from the security.ubuntu.com site.  what would cause that?
[03:53] <AndyCooll_> neon: ati drivers are notoriously fickle. I usually end up just using the bog standard "vesa" ones. I have nothing that requires anything more (I don't play games)
[03:53] <UKMatt> how do you upgrade to a new version of firefox in UB?
[03:53] <Solarion> AndyCooll_: vesa and not ati?
[03:54] <sharms> ATI drivers work great for me except for things like hibernation
[03:54] <Mixx`> is there a more appropriate channel to ask nickserv questions in besides here?
[03:54] <hakanw> anyone have an idea how to fix this?
[03:54] <AndyCooll_> neon: correct
[03:54] <hakanw> * Starting apache 2.0 web server...
[03:54] <hakanw> apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[03:54] <hakanw>    ...fail!
[03:54] <firstc624> UKMatt,  u can use the package manager to update ff.  or u can use the apt-get from the terminal
[03:54] <sharms> Mixx`: #freenode
[03:54] <Solarion> sharms: on a laptop that's critical, imho.
[03:55] <Solarion> That's why my next notebook will likely have an intel graphics chip in it.
[03:55] <sharms> Solarion: you're telling me.
[03:55] <GMullen> ok I installed Windows Vista (just wanted to see if it was good enough to use yet) but I didn't even think that it would take over the MBR so now I'm in the drapper live CD and hoping there is a way to install GRUB back to the MBR
[03:55] <Mixx`> sharms thanks
[03:55] <Solarion> I actually had hibernate working with suspend2
[03:55] <AndyCooll_> neon: Though when installing Ubuntu setup my ati driver and this worked fine, I had problems when trying to connect to other boxes in my home network
[03:55] <sharms> Solarion: with fglrx?
[03:55] <Solarion> GMullen: grub-install /dev/hda should work
[03:55] <Solarion> sharms: yes
[03:55] <Solarion> I've not tested it recently, though.
[03:56] <GMullen> thx Solarion
[03:56] <sharms> AndyCooll_: ati drivers have absolutely nothing to do with connecting to other boxes.
[03:56] <Solarion> supend-to-ram didn't work, tho.  :(
[03:56] <garryF> Or /dev/sda if you are using sata drives.
[03:57] <AndyCooll_> neon: Well I was getting ati radeon error messages when using xdcmp
[03:57] <AndyCooll_> sharms: Reconfigured xorg.conf to use vesa and was able to connect
[03:58] <reiki> woot!  brand new install on a brand new machine! :)  Now to reinstall everything.... sheeesh....
[03:58] <Simthumb> hello
[03:58] <Simthumb> I had a problem installing ubuntu and setting up dialup
[03:59] <sharms> !tell Simthumb about modem
[03:59] <Simthumb> first, is it possible to auto-detect modem?
[03:59] <sharms> read your pms.
[03:59] <GMullen> Solarion /dev/hda    not found
[03:59] <Simthumb> I did
[03:59] <Simthumb> and I have looked there before,
[03:59] <sharms> that lists it all.
[03:59] <sharms> and the question you just asked
[03:59] <Simthumb> but isn't there a way to do it automatically?
[03:59] <sharms> so no you didnt.
[04:00] <frank_b> does anyone here also have a problem of not beeing able to see images in some sites with the new firefox that comes with ubuntu?
[04:00] <Simthumb> sorry, I did...I was here before, and someone told me about that link
[04:00] <sharms> then why did you ask?
[04:00] <garryF> GMullen: Is your first drive an IDE or a Sata or Scsi?
[04:00] <Simthumb> but I wanted to try using the networks wizard
[04:00] <Simthumb> sorry
[04:00] <Simthumb> also,
[04:00] <Simthumb> I try installing Ubuntu,
[04:01] <Simthumb> I saw the docs on how to dual boot,
[04:01] <GMullen> i have no idea
[04:01] <Simthumb> I get up to step 7 on clicking manually edit partition tree,
[04:01] <hctibtipots> i am trying to get a dlink wireless pci card to connect to the internet???
[04:01] <Simthumb> and it freezes
[04:01] <GMullen> i want to say IDE but i have noidea
[04:01] <Simthumb> I tried to wait
[04:01] <Simthumb> I waited a whole half an hour
[04:01] <Simthumb> I ended up rebooting
[04:01] <sharms> Simthumb: did you check the integrity of the cd?
[04:01] <Simthumb> yes I did
[04:01] <Simthumb> it said it was fine
[04:01] <garryF> GMullen: Try the same command cept try /dev/sda
[04:02] <sharms> Simthumb: link to that guide?
[04:02] <hctibtipots> i am trying to get a dlink wireless pci card to connect to the internet???
[04:02] <Simthumb> hold on please
[04:03] <GMullen> count not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device         garryF
[04:03] <sharms> !tell hctibtipots about wireless
[04:03] <Simthumb> help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[04:03] <GMullen> could*
[04:04] <Simthumb> I'm totally confused - int here it says free up 10 gigs, in the Ubuntu setup it says at least 2 gigs
[04:04] <Simthumb> what do I follow?? I managed to free up 5gigs
[04:04] <garryF> GMullen Well, if you have a recovery mode install, I'd try that.
[04:04] <frank_b> is someone here also not able to see images in some sites with the new firefox version that comes with ubuntu?
[04:04] <sharms> Simthumb: 2 gigs minimum will work
[04:04] <sharms> Simthumb: as for the freeze, reboot and try again
[04:04] <GMullen> ....
[04:05] <Simthumb> ah ok but what about the partitioning?
[04:05] <Simthumb> is it possible to run Windows AND Ubuntu without partitioning?
[04:05] <sharms> frank_b: what site?
[04:05] <Simthumb> ie dual booting?
[04:05] <GMullen> know of a way to force it to boot to linux
[04:05] <sharms> Simthumb: only if you partitioned it correctly before you installed windows
[04:05] <GMullen> becasue i'm on the live CD now
[04:05] <frank_b> sharms, this one for example: http://xl.netcabo.pt/
[04:05] <Simthumb> er....I've never partitioned
[04:05] <Simthumb> ever
[04:05] <Simthumb> I have a 40 gig hdd
[04:06] <Simthumb> with 5 gigs free
[04:06] <sharms> frank_b: images load fine here
[04:06] <sharms> Simthumb: is that 5 gigs free what it says in windows?
[04:06] <Simthumb> yes
[04:06] <sharms> Simthumb: then what you need to do is defrag, and reboot with ubuntu cd and resize partition.  Or if you have a tool like partition magic you can also do it
[04:06] <frank_b> sharms, je... what the hell kind of problem do I have then...
[04:07] <Simthumb> sharms:Resize it to what? lol
[04:07] <Simthumb> sorry if I sound dumb, I've never done this before
[04:07] <sharms> Simthumb: when you install windows it automatically makes a partition the size of the entire drive.  You want to decrease it by 5 gigs so that linux can have it's own slice of the harddrive.
[04:07] <reiki> is regular xchat still available? I'm not liking xchat-gnome
[04:07] <frank_b> sharms, ok. thanks sharms
[04:07] <gnomefreak> reiki: yes
[04:07] <sharms> Simthumb: Also you will actually want 2 slices for linux, 1 that is like 4.5 gigs for linux itself, and 1 that is like 500mb for a "swap" partition
[04:08] <gnomefreak> reiki: sudo apt-get install xchat
[04:08] <Madpilot> reiki, it's in Universe in Dapper
[04:08] <sharms> frank_b: good luck
[04:08] <Simthumb> can I use gparted for that?
[04:08] <Simthumb> er to do that
[04:08] <sharms> Simthumb: I believe so
[04:08] <frank_b> sharms, thanks... :)
[04:08] <reiki> I think I didn't yet have universe in repos when I was looking for it... duh
[04:09] <Carolinamusicman> frank_b,  I check out that site with both Firefox and opera 9 and it loaded all the images fine
[04:09] <sharms> Carolinamusicman: he already quit
[04:10] <Carolinamusicman> yeah I just seen it sharms  thanks
[04:11] <AdamG> Hi all. I'd been messing around majorly with compiz/xgl, but as I'm using an ATI card, it never worked well. Now, I'm not sure what I did, and I have no graphics support at all... how do I go about getting it back (i'd be happy with just the openGL drivers, no need for fglrx)
[04:11] <eternalsword> I was playing a movie in mplayer and the screen dimmed after about 15 mins.  Is there a remedy for this?
[04:11] <sharms> AdamG: to have accelerated opengl fglrx is required.  #2: just change your files to the backup versions you made following the howto
[04:12] <AdamG> so, the original xorg.conf I suppose?
[04:12] <sharms> AdamG: you should have a backed up xorg.conf and gdm.conf-custom
[04:12] <AdamG> yeah
[04:12] <AdamG> OK
[04:12] <sharms> AdamG: if X still doesn't start, you will take a look in /var/log at the xorg logs, and paste it on ubuntuforums
[04:13] <AdamG> a seperate issue is after a kernel upgrade I lost support for my wireless card, but after booting into an older kernel, it's still not there...
[04:13] <sharms> Was it ndis or a native driver?
[04:13] <eternalsword> does the AC power management affect desktops as well?
[04:13] <Simthumb> um...sharms, how do I download the scanModem tool to my ubuntu desktop if I can't access the internet with Ubuntu?
[04:13] <AdamG> wor the wireless card?
[04:14] <sharms> Simthumb - usb drive maybe?  other computer then burn to cd?
[04:14] <AdamG> I have no idea, I never messed with that
[04:14] <AdamG> whatever's default, i guess
[04:14] <Simthumb> oh
[04:14] <sharms> AdamG - does dmesg | grep -i wireless    show anything
[04:15] <AdamG> two entries for my wireless mouse
[04:15] <AdamG> btw, I'm using a laptop, T43
[04:15] <sharms> AdamG - does dmesg | grep -i eth   show your wirelesss card/
[04:15] <bobby> can some one help me with my printer
[04:16] <sharms> bobby: what brand / problem
[04:16] <sharms> !anyone
[04:16] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:16] <yahn> i'm sorry to bother you but i really need help         i was using kwrite and a message came up            and now i have to hold a key in for a second for it to display on any program does anyone know how to fix it
[04:16] <bobby> dell and it is like its just not there i cant print scan or anything
[04:16] <sharms> !tell bobby about printing
[04:16] <AdamG> sharms:no, just some messages about my ethernet, although the first entry says "Driver 'sd' needs updating...
[04:17] <bobby> thanks
[04:17] <sharms> AdamG: does lspci show anything?
[04:17] <ThatOtherGuy> Anyone know if anyone at all has found a workaround for the problems with the Via ENVY chipset soundcards? (AKA, my M-Audio Revolution 7.1)
[04:17] <AdamG> sharms:yes, and one of the entries is my wireless card
[04:18] <sharms> which brand
[04:18] <AdamG> Atheros
[04:19] <sharms> AdamG: I have to get going, but this guide looks to be what you need: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[04:19] <AdamG> thanx
[04:19] <sharms> AdamG: it goes over atheros specifically so you wont be lost
[04:20] <AdamG> alright, cool :)
[04:20] <sharms> specifically scroll to modprobe and lsmod sections
[04:21] <GMullen> ok i'm in the drapper install on my toshiba tecra M4 tablet and i'm trying to turn my 80(74.53 actual)gig (i think sata) drive to have 43GBntfs(1) for my XP tablet edition     14GB(2) ntfs for vista and                  12GB(3) for linux (.5GBswap) and 3GB(5) for my recovery partition but i cant have more than 4 primay partitions is there a way to switch the linux to logical and put the linux HD space and swap into that from the insta
[04:21] <pvd2006> so I need to get automake, aclocal, and these other programs, what package would those be in?
[04:22] <ultra> Hi everybody. Could someone help me out with NFS and 2 linux boxes? can't mount a nfs share
[04:22] <nix4me> mount ip:/dir /mnt/dir
[04:22] <reiki> looking for an app that will tell me CPU temp and fan speeds like BIOS.... kinda hard to enter BIOS when I'm running Ubuntu :)
[04:22] <nix4me> thats all thats needed
[04:23] <ultra> nix4me, yep, trying that but seems not working
[04:23] <nix4me> you sure the share is active?
[04:23] <ultra> nix4me, I think so, exportfs -v show me the share
[04:23] <nix4me> check system->admin->shared folders
[04:24] <aeon17x> How do I install the ubuntu-usplash screen in dapper? It's not in the repos for some reason.
[04:24] <ultra> nix4me, yes it is active
[04:24] <Draconicus> I need a simple alicebot clone. Can somebody recommend something?
[04:25] <nix4me> are the folder permission set accordingly?
[04:25] <nix4me> ither than that, i have no idea
[04:25] <ultra> nix4me, on the 2nd box, did a mount -t nfs /myshare /mymountpoint
[04:25] <ultra> nix4me, permission set to the second linuxbox ip address
[04:26] <pianoboy3333> How can I convert between audio types? Specifically I need to convert some m4a's to mp3's and flac's to mp3's.
[04:26] <nix4me> try just mount ip:/myshare /mymountpoint
[04:26] <Scott_> help! my root account is passwordless
[04:26] <gnomefreak> Scott_: use sudo
[04:26] <ultra> nix4me, sorry forgot to write it but did it with ip
[04:26] <Scott_> no, as in any one can access it
[04:27] <nix4me> and make sure the /mymountpoint is an actual dir
[04:28] <ultra> nix4me, trying again without mount -t nfs now
[04:29] <ultra> nix4me, arghh, works now, thanks a lot. I just removed the "-t nfs" and all working now. Thanks a lot for your help
[04:29] <Shizboom> there is a program in my application menu
[04:29] <phire> My shadow file isn't working, and root has a blank password (that means anyone can login as root, without a password) could someone help me?
[04:29] <Shizboom> how do i find out where it is stored?
[04:30] <phire> Shizboom: whereis
[04:30] <yahn> i'm sorry to bother you but i really need help         i was using kwrite and a message came up            and now i have to hold a key in for a second for it to display on any program does anyone know how to fix it
[04:30] <Shizboom> thanks
[04:31] <hakanw> how do I configure WebDAV so that the svn tree won't be readable by anyone?
[04:31] <GMullen> is there a way to move 2 primary partitions in to one so i can have 1NTSF 2NTFS 3ext/linux-swap and 4fat32RECOVERY partitions?
[04:32] <GMullen> in GParted
[04:32] <nix4me> ultra, also make sure you have portmap installed on the client side - it will speed up mounting
[04:32] <Draconicus> I've installed megahal.
[04:32] <pvd2006> Is there a command on ubuntu to see which package a certain command belongs to that is not yet installed?
[04:32] <Draconicus> What do I need to give megahal a personality to start off with?
[04:32] <nix4me> ultra, no probelm at all
[04:32] <ultra> nix4me, did that :-)) thx again
[04:32] <nix4me> glad i could help
[04:33] <grill> hello ya'll
[04:34] <phire> I fixed my blank root password, put a * in the /etc/passwd file. But my password hashes are stored in the passwd file, how do I set it up to use the shadow file
[04:36] <dpn> whats a good linux alternative to the default picture viewer in windows?
[04:36] <mjr> dpn, I kinda like gqview, though eg. eog is an option
[04:36] <rob> Gwenview is nice too :)
[04:36] <GMullen> is there a way(in GParted) to move 2 primary partitions in to one so i can have 1NTSF 2NTFS 3ext/linux-swap and 4fat32RECOVERY partitions?
[04:37] <dr34mc0d3r> i just set up a fresh ubuntu 6.06 with shorewall - alls working fine But - this new machine wont resolve dns - i cant do apt-get update - cause it cant resolve. i see in /etc/resolv.conf that it looks fine - got any ideas?
[04:39] <eddel> dr34mc0d3r: Hard-code your ISPs DNS server in /etc/resolv.conf as a short cut. Turn shore wall on and off. If that flips it, try to understand where/why shorewall blocks dns.
[04:39] <dpn> Is there a reason images arent opening in a program when I click them? Seems like there should be something simple installed already to handle that
[04:40] <dr34mc0d3r> i was thinking that shorewall is blocking dns - what port numbers are dns queries on?
[04:40] <Tom7e> every time i start sound juicer it says 'the currently selected audio profile is not available on your installation'  and then says quit or change profile.  and when i select to extract, the program closes
[04:40] <dr34mc0d3r> my etc/resolv has hard coded dns from the isp...already
[04:41] <spades> dr34mc0d3r try 53
[04:41] <ThatOtherGuy> Is sound in linux always this hit or miss, or is my system just a special case :/
[04:42] <mikere> ThatOtherGuy: I find it works on almost every system I install on - it used to be more hit and miss but is getting much better in the last year or two
[04:42] <offipso> has anyone had any experience with setting up soundmodem?
[04:42] <mikere> ThatOtherGuy: unfortunately, the problem is mostly hardware manufacturers not supporting their hardware with open source drivers
[04:43] <ThatOtherGuy> mikere: I gather that M-Audio is one of the worst for it, too
[04:43] <ThatOtherGuy> mikere: So I re-enabled the onboard AC97 and it still doesn't work >_<
[04:44] <dli> ThatOtherGuy, intel ich modem?
[04:44] <LGKeiz> umm is there a guide to install gcc?
[04:44] <dli> LGKeiz, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:44] <ThatOtherGuy> dli: What?
[04:44] <LjL> !build-essential
[04:44] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:45] <AdamG> does anyone know where in the ubuntu docs I can find the original sources.list?
[04:45] <Shizboom> for flash in firefox would i use lib-flash?
[04:45] <dpn> How does twinview work on linux?  Does it just move one of your other desktops to the second monitor or does it make it one big desktop
[04:45] <LGKeiz> ty dli
[04:45] <AdamG> ah, nv
[04:45] <AdamG> found it :)
[04:46] <Tom7e> every time i start sound juicer it says 'the currently selected audio profile is not available on your installation'  and then says quit or change profile.  and when i select to extract, the program closes
[04:46] <mjr> dpn, if you're talking about nvidia's twinview(TM), one big desktop (and there's xinerama and/or mergedfb for other drivers)
[04:47] <dpn> Does the gnome image viewer not work on mounted ntfs drives
[04:49] <fiftyfour123> i installed ubuntu on my firewire hard drive (mac osx ppc) osx is on the internal hd, but the yaboot installation failed, so how do i boot into linux without having the bootloader?
[04:50] <fiftyfour123> hello?
[04:50] <yahn_> i'm sorry to bother you but i really need help         i was using kwrite and a message came up            and now i have to hold a key in for a second for it to display on any program does anyone know how to fix it            I would really appreciate help
[04:50] <kbrooks> yahn_: you arent bowthering us. kwrite... ask in #kubuntu. See:
[04:50] <kbrooks> !kubuntu
[04:50] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:51] <hctibtipots> how do you connect to a wireless connection???
[04:51] <dotwaffle> Any Ubuntu dev's awake and watching, I have an idea for a feature, and I'd like help in submitting it somewhere.
[04:51] <linux_user400354> does openoffice have clipart?
[04:51] <dpn> Ubuntu doesn't like opening up directories with 14000 pics in them =/
[04:52] <yahn_> how did you send to me kbrooks, thank you
[04:52] <ThatOtherGuy> Anyone able to help me figure out my sound problem? Every time I try to play a sound file the palyer freezes. I've gone through the standard ubuntu help fixes :/
[04:52] <kbrooks> dotwaffle: what is it, maybe i can direct you to the application that has it. try me
[04:52] <dli> ThatOtherGuy, can you try another player?
[04:53] <hctibtipots> how do you connect to a wireless connection???
[04:53] <ThatOtherGuy> dli: Tried totem, rhythymbox, amarok
[04:53] <spades> hctibtipots iwconfig
[04:53] <fiftyfour123> i installed ubuntu on my firewire hard drive (mac osx ppc) osx is on the internal hd, but the yaboot installation failed, so how do i boot into linux without having the bootloader?
[04:53] <phire> hey, has anyone else ever problems with apt-get resolving domain names, it works after you look up that address from somewere else on the network.
[04:53] <dli> ThatOtherGuy, try xmms
[04:53] <hctibtipots> iwconfig
[04:54] <hctibtipots> and den???
[04:54] <fiftyfour123> can anyone help me?
[04:54] <spades> hctibtipots is the network manager picking up your access point?
[04:54] <hctibtipots> yes wlan0
[04:54] <fiftyfour123> waits*
[04:54] <fiftyfour123> lol
[04:55] <spades> hctibtipots so pick your point and set it to dhcp and enable it
[04:55] <phire> fiftyfour, don't know sorry
[04:55] <fiftyfour123> damn
[04:55] <hctibtipots> i did that but it still wont connect
[04:55] <phire> you might be able to boot off the ubuntu cd
[04:55] <ThatOtherGuy> dli: xmms doesn't freeze, but doesn't play the file either
[04:56] <dpn> Why does the gnome image viewer stop working randomly
[04:56] <fiftyfour123> can anyone besides phire help me?
[04:56] <ThatOtherGuy> fiftyfour123: I would if I could, but I know less than you, I am sure :p
[04:57] <fiftyfour123> :D
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> fiftyfour123, you need a bootloader... maybe using the live cd
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> as was said
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> i hat macs
[04:57] <fiftyfour123> wait how could iuse te live cd to boot into it?
[05:00] <theocode> Hey, from the prompt what is the command to configure the monitor settings (ex. vsync, resolution, etc)
[05:01] <mauro> irc mauro.efnet.org
[05:01] <synthesis> Quick question RE: XGL and Ubuntu 6.0.6
[05:01] <phire> 55: you put the live cd in to boot, but instad of booting it you change the options to boot your install instead
[05:01] <Daveyboy>  what are the development package names for mysql and GD??
[05:01] <Clujo> theocode.. try looking up xorgconf.   complicated so save the xorg.conf file
[05:02] <theocode> Clujo: thanks I'll look it up
[05:02] <phire> 55: I've done it before on my windows machene, but never with ubuntu and I can't rember the commands
[05:02] <synthesis> lets try this again
[05:02] <Daveyboy>  what are the development package names for mysql and GD??
[05:02] <synthesis> Closed it lol
[05:03] <synthesis> I got everything configured identical to my laptop, but XGL won't work on my main PC, whereas it DOES work on my laptop.
[05:03] <synthesis> Anyone able to assist?
[05:03] <AdamG> whoever was helping me earlier, everying is working now... thank you!
[05:03] <dpn> does the twinview work ok with xgl?
[05:03] <phire> systhesis, what video card do you have in your pc?
[05:04] <synthesis> Main PC is a GeForce 6800
[05:04] <synthesis> Laptop is a GeForce4 440 go
[05:05] <phire> how far do you get?
[05:05] <synthesis> Everything is configured...
[05:05] <synthesis> I boot, select XGL from the sessions
[05:05] <synthesis> It pulls me into the desktop...
[05:05] <synthesis> And I get none of the effects
[05:05] <hareem> whats a good c++ compiler
[05:05] <pinkman> Anyone know of a link to a site that shows how to install both a linux(ubuntu) and winxppro..
[05:05] <phire> you need to start compiz
[05:05] <synthesis> Verified all settings between this system and the laptop.. Both are nearly identical...
[05:06] <pinkman> so that you may run windows programs
[05:06] <synthesis> compiz should be started
[05:06] <mikere> hareem: g++
[05:06] <Dr`Keo> What's the new repo to get the latest nvidia-glx drivers?
[05:06] <synthesis> http://tazforum.thetazzone.com/viewtopic.php?t=2189
[05:06] <synthesis> I followed that
[05:06] <hareem> thanks mate
[05:07] <hareem> any one have experience with openkiosk
[05:07] <Dr`Keo> synthesis, I'm still on hoary =)
[05:08] <synthesis> Gimme a sec..
[05:08] <synthesis> Testing something
[05:08] <Dr`Keo> Aight..
[05:08] <PeeweeBomb> ANyone used pure ftp and pureadmin?
[05:10] <HLM> i am the egg man :) i am the egg man :) i am the walrus 8-)
[05:10] <synthesis> Heh, I figured it out
[05:10] <synthesis> I typoed in the Startup Applications in Sessions
[05:10] <Dr`Keo> synthesis, you're using dapper, right?
[05:10] <synthesis> Yeah, 6.0.6
[05:11] <synthesis> Oops
[05:11] <synthesis> 6.06
[05:11] <synthesis> lol
[05:11] <J-_> where do i install icons? stupid question yes. but I need some variety
[05:11] <theocode> so, I have this problem where the screen is not configured correctly, its about an inch to to the left of where it should be.  What might be causing that?
[05:11] <Dr`Keo> Can you get me the restricted copywright repo link?
[05:11] <synthesis> Nope...
[05:11] <synthesis> <--- n00b linux user
[05:12] <theocode> I went into the xorg config and changed some settings and then the screen just was blank, but I reverted back to the original configuration now...
[05:12] <synthesis> I ordered my discs a while back.
[05:12] <Tanooki> Can someone help me set up Direct Rendering?  I'm using Dapper Drake. I have the packages installed but its still using indirect.  dmesg doesn't show any drm stuff being loaded.
[05:12] <theocode> any help would be great, as this is a very annoying problem
[05:13] <Dr`Keo> Crap, I need the url to that too...
[05:13] <kuzmaster> hello all
[05:13] <jimmygoodboy> greetings
[05:13] <Dr`Keo> crimsun, you've been a help before, can you grab me the url to the restricted copyright repository?
[05:13] <kuzmaster> can someone please assist me in making my wireless card work with kubuntu 6.06
[05:14] <crimsun> Dr`Keo: the what?
[05:14] <J-_> where do i install icon packs?
[05:14] <Dr`Keo> crimsun, the repository URL for dapper's restricted copywright
[05:14] <crimsun> Dr`Keo: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper restricted
[05:14] <Dr`Keo> crimsun, Thank you
[05:14] <pvd2006> hmm weird, I get this error when tryign to install libfaac-dev, libfaac-dev:  Depends: libmp4-dev  but it is not installable
[05:15] <Dial_tone> do you have to start that hdparm service to use hdparm at all?
[05:15] <fadfocusdotcom> is there a gui for hdparm? haha
[05:15] <kbrooks> Dial_tone: no
[05:15] <hakanw> a while back, I changed hostname manually by changing /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname.  now I get this apache error every time I restart it: ``apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName''.   what's wrong in my etc/hosts and /etc/hostname?
[05:15] <crimsun> pvd2006: libfaac-dev and libmp4v2-dev are both in multiverse.
[05:15] <crimsun> Dr`Keo: np
[05:15] <pvd2006> yes
[05:15] <xXSakodaXx> hola
[05:15] <J-_> waha i'm dumb, i got it. err. screw you short term memory!
[05:15] <clojster> hello
[05:16] <kuzmaster> my wireless card worked fine in kubuntu 6.06, straight out of the box (i had to connect to the right network), but it dosnt work out of the box for ubuntu 6.06
[05:16] <Dial_tone> is hdparm only for ide disks?
[05:16] <crimsun> pvd2006: what app is looking for libmp4-dev?
[05:16] <kbrooks> Dial_tone: Doubt it
[05:16] <andy-> can someone tell me the command to copy from /home/andy/Desktop/UT2004-Patch/ to /usr/local/games/ut2004/ ???
[05:16] <andy-> cp doesn't want to, and i can't move them because i need su =\
[05:16] <Dial_tone> ooh, looks like it is
[05:16] <hakanw> andy-: cp -r path1 path2 will copy folders
[05:16] <spades> andy-  you need to sudo cp file newpath
[05:16] <pvd2006> crimsun, im installing cinelerra through svn
[05:17] <andy-> hmm
[05:17] <clojster> how can i mount ext3 disk (what are the parameters in fstab), to be accessible by anybody using this computer for writing?
[05:17] <hakanw> sudo before, probably
[05:17] <crimsun> pvd2006: so you need to install libfaac-dev from dapper/multiverse.
[05:17] <kuzmaster> ive tried setting it to dhcp and static, defining the dns servers manually, but it still dosnt work
[05:17] <cocox> hi! anyone knows how can i start telnet in ubuntu ? i've been trying with invoke-rc.d and /etc/init.d/telnet ... but it seems that im on the wrong way...
[05:18] <sbalneav> cocox: Are you wanting a telnet client?  or a telnet server?
[05:18] <kbrooks> cocox: start telnet? run it?
[05:18] <kuzmaster> and i have also done sudo iwconfig ra0 essid ANY, but that diddnt seem to do anything
[05:18] <cocox> sbalneav, i just want to connect to my own computer by telnet ... something like telnet 127.0.0.1
[05:18] <kuzmaster> btw, i have no encryption on my connection
[05:18] <kbrooks> cocox: do that
[05:19] <sbalneav> Why not use ssh? It's the same thing but encryped.  Safer that way
[05:19] <cocox> kbrooks, do what ?
[05:19] <sbalneav> You can use synaptic to instal openssh-server
[05:19] <cocox> sbalneav, yeah i know ... im just wondering what is the way for telnet
[05:19] <sbalneav> then use synaptic to install telnetd
[05:19] <kbrooks> cocox: the command you just gave
[05:20] <cocox> kbrooks, it doesnt works
[05:20] <cocox> sbalneav, kbrooks telnet doesnt comes with ubuntu?
[05:20] <andy-> neither of those commands are working =\
[05:20] <kuzmaster> here is my /ect/network/interfaces for kubuntu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17588
[05:20] <kbrooks> cocox: no... only the ssh servr
[05:21] <sbalneav> no, it's a) insecure, b) insecure, c) no one uses it anymore, and d) insecure :)
[05:21] <kuzmaster> here is my /ect/network/interfaces for ubuntu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17589
[05:21] <andy-> is there a way to sudo inside a browser maybe?
[05:21] <kuzmaster> if thats any help
[05:21] <pvd2006> crimsun, I have dapper multiverse enabled already
[05:21] <kbrooks> sbalneav: not helpful
[05:21] <cocox> sbalneav, kbrooks lol i got the point thnx guys
[05:21] <kuzmaster> so, any ideas or help?
[05:21] <pppoe_dude> ubotu tell me about telnetd
[05:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about telnetd
[05:22] <pppoe_dude> ubotu tell me about info telnetd
[05:22] <andy-> !cp
[05:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about cp
[05:22] <andy-> !telnetd
[05:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about telnetd
[05:22] <HackerX> ** Hey, What the best way to use a webcam on ubuntu??? **
[05:22] <cocox> thank u guys i got the point
[05:22] <pppoe_dude> cocox, you can probably install a telnet daemon from the repos
[05:22] <sbalneav> kbrooks: What's not helpful?  I told him how to install it, and informed him it was insecure.  What wasn't helpful?
[05:23] <kbrooks> sbalneav: nm
[05:23] <pppoe_dude> cocox, if u want to, just type 'apt-get install telnetd'
[05:23] <kbrooks> pppoe_dude: sudo
[05:23] <cocox> yea, but i was just wondering why i couldnt start telnet doing the usuall with other services... i didnt know that it doesnt comes with this distro
[05:23] <pppoe_dude> cocox, as root
[05:23] <cocox> pppoe_dude, thnx u :)
[05:24] <pppoe_dude> cocox, but as mentioned before, ssh has many benefits over telnet
[05:24] <HackerX> *** Is it possible to get my IP Unbanned from this Channel? ***
[05:24] <kuzmaster> any one at all?
[05:24] <kbrooks> cocox: it isnt bundled, but it is INCLUDED in the repos
[05:24] <kuzmaster> i really need help
[05:24] <pvd2006> crimsun, I tried to force the version to
[05:24] <cocox> ok guys i'll check thanx
[05:24] <cocox> any of you use firestarter for manage iptables ??
[05:25] <kuzmaster> please, i really need this to work
[05:25] <pppoe_dude> cocox, sure
[05:25] <sbalneav> kuzmaster: What are you trying to do?
[05:25] <kuzmaster> get my wireless card to work
[05:25] <pvd2006> crimsun, I show that libmp4V2 is already installed.
[05:25] <cocox> so, you know where can i find the script generated by firestarter for iptables ????
[05:26] <kuzmaster> my wireless card worked fine in kubuntu 6.06, straight out of the box (i had to connect to the right network), but it dosnt work out of the box for ubuntu 6.06
[05:26] <HackerX> *** How Do I Get Unbanned? Who Do I Talk To??? ***
[05:26] <pppoe_dude> cocox, there are files in /etc/firestarter/inbount and .../outbound for the rules
[05:26] <pppoe_dude> *inbound
[05:26] <crimsun> pvd2006: pastebin ``apt-cache policy libfaac-dev libmp4v2-dev''
[05:26] <kuzmaster> here is my /ect/network/interfaces for kubuntu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17588
[05:26] <kuzmaster> here is my /ect/network/interfaces for ubuntu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17589
[05:26] <kuzmaster> as i said, my wireless card is working fine for kubuntu
[05:27] <pppoe_dude> cocox, i don't think theres an actual 'script' that you can access as a file in real time
[05:27] <kuzmaster> and always has, out of the box
[05:27] <pppoe_dude> kuzmaster, are you using wpa?
[05:27] <kuzmaster> no, no encryptiong
[05:27] <cocox> pppoe_dude, me neither lol... im cheking out this files that you told me, thanks
[05:27] <pvd2006> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17590
[05:27] <sbalneav> kuzmaster: What happens if you do a sudo ifconfig ra0?
[05:28] <kuzmaster> dont no, ill try that
[05:28] <sbalneav> and then a sudo iwconfig ra0
[05:28] <kuzmaster> im currently in kubuntu
[05:28] <sbalneav> Paste both the results to the pastebot.
[05:28] <josh> the dapper upgrade broke my install.....
[05:28] <josh> i need to know how to fix this fglrx error im getting
[05:28] <josh> my xorg is all f*&^ed
[05:29] <kuzmaster> i have also tried sudo iwconfig ra0 essid ANY
[05:29] <HackerX> |*~*| What software should i use for a Webcam??? |*~*|
[05:29] <crimsun> pvd2006: remove http://www.kiberpipa.org from your sources.list, update && install libfaac-dev
[05:29] <kuzmaster> isnt ifconfig for ethanet?
[05:29] <josh> HackerX: camora or whatever it is called
[05:29] <josh> yes kuzmaster
[05:29] <sbalneav> kuzmaster: If we could see what the output for iwconfig is, we could see what the card thinks is going on
[05:29] <pppoe_dude> HackerX, try ekiga?
[05:29] <kuzmaster> then why do it?
[05:30] <HackerX> josh, where do i get that?
[05:30] <kuzmaster> ohhh, ok
[05:30] <kuzmaster> ill write it all down, then try it
[05:30] <pppoe_dude> HackerX, what are you trying to do with the webcam?
[05:30] <josh> go to your packet manager and search for webcam
[05:30] <sbalneav> ifconfig works on both wireful and wireless
[05:30] <josh> pppoe_dude: lol i dont think we want to know
[05:30] <kuzmaster> brb
[05:30] <HackerX> josh, ok thanks
[05:30] <josh> someone know about the xorg install issue?
[05:30] <HackerX> pppoe_dude, im just tring to record
[05:31] <josh> np
[05:31] <HackerX> or even just display it on the screen but recording would be nice
[05:31] <pppoe_dude> HackerX, look up xawtv i think it might be what you need
[05:31] <Blake_> ok seems like this is a common problem, just upgradded to dapper and now wireless wont work, using an acx111 card, no encryption, and none of the usual tricks work, ive read network-manager might work but cant install it without a connection, the hardware and driver (ndiswrapper) are recognized but cant find the accespoints
[05:31] <pppoe_dude> !info xawtv
[05:31] <ubotu> xawtv: X11 TV application. In repository universe, is extra. Version 3.94-1.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 219 kB, installed size 712 kB
[05:31] <josh> what is the command to remove stuff through apt-get?
[05:31] <pppoe_dude> josh, apt-get remove <package name>
[05:31] <josh> sudo apt-cache clean
[05:32] <josh> ahh
[05:32] <josh> ok
[05:32] <josh> ok i ma having a problem getting my xorg updated...
[05:32] <josh> it is returning a mimatch on divert from the .deb file
[05:33] <pvd2006> crimsun, libfaac-dev: Depends: libfaac0 (=1.24clean-0ubuntu4) but 1.24+cvs20060416-0.1 is to be installed
[05:33] <HackerX> pppoe_dude, sweet ill check it thanks, also do you know i can talk to. to get get my ip unbanned on this channel i sliped up and swor and with out even getting a warning they banned me so now i have to use a proxy but that limits my choices of irc clients. kinda annoying
[05:33] <pppoe_dude> pvd2006, you might need to clean your cache...
[05:33] <josh> i have tried deleing the old file, the new and re-dling, and doing a sudo apt-get remove libGL and nothing
[05:34] <pvd2006> how do you clean your cache?
[05:34] <pppoe_dude> HackerX, you have to just wait
[05:34] <pvd2006> apt-cache clean or something?
[05:34] <josh> sudo apt-get update
[05:34] <Vexor> remember this is a debian system, dpkg
[05:34] <pppoe_dude> pvd2006, yes
[05:34] <pppoe_dude> pvd2006, did you try to install a deb manually?
[05:34] <pvd2006> no
[05:35] <pppoe_dude> pvd2006, the cleanest way i think of that you can fix this error is to manually install 1.24clean-0ubuntu4
[05:35] <josh> ok im about to get rid of xorg and try a reinstall
[05:35] <josh> good idea? bad idea?
[05:35] <HackerX> pppoe_dude, Ok so the bans are just like a set amount of time its been a few days now
[05:35] <pppoe_dude> pvd2006, i don't know what your problem exactly is... but just download that package and dpkg -i it
[05:35] <kuzmaster> is it possible to have the kubuntu wireless assistant on ubuntu
[05:36] <kuzmaster> but i would have to download the .dep thru kubuntu and installed via dpkg
[05:36] <kuzmaster> can i do that?
[05:36] <crimsun> pvd2006: remove libfaac0
[05:36] <josh> well lets see what a reinstall does....
[05:36] <crimsun> pvd2006: then install libfaac-dev
[05:36] <josh> yes kuz
[05:36] <Blake_> just upgradded to dapper and now wireless wont work, using an acx111 card, no encryption, and none of the usual tricks work, ive read network-manager might work but cant install it without a connection, the hardware and driver (ndiswrapper) are recognized but cant find the accespoints
[05:37] <josh> sudo dpkg -i <whatever file>
[05:37] <pvd2006> crimsum, thats going to un-install a lot of stuff.
[05:37] <kuzmaster> josh, do you have a copy of dapper drake on cd?
[05:37] <josh> nope
[05:37] <Shizboom> anyone use opera 9 yet?
[05:37] <josh> and im not at home
[05:37] <josh> lol
[05:37] <kuzmaster> ohhhhhh, k\
[05:37] <Blake_> whats the best way to go about installing network-manager and dependancied without a connection as its not included in the install CD
[05:37] <josh> ok... ill be right back (crosses fingers)
[05:38] <HackerX> pppoe_dude, Do i need any kinda drivers or anything like that for my webcam and if so where do i get those?
[05:38] <crimsun> pvd2006: --force-depends.
[05:38] <crimsun> pvd2006: you should not use external repos without knowing conflict ramifications.
[05:38] <pppoe_dude> HackerX, run 'scanimage -L'  and tell me what you get
[05:39] <Keyseir> Can ubuntu be installed and boot off of a flash card?
[05:39] <pvd2006> so I run sudo apt-get  --force-depends remove libfaac0
[05:39] <pppoe_dude> Keyseir, yes but theres no straight forward howto or wiki afaik
[05:39] <pvd2006> crimsun?
[05:39] <HackerX> pppoe_dude, i dont have the cam hooked up yet
[05:39] <HackerX> hold on ill be back when i get it
[05:40] <KDEfanboy> should /lib/iptables/libipt_nth.so be missing from iptables?
[05:40] <crimsun> pvd2006: no, dpkg -P --force-depends libfaac0
[05:41] <crimsun> pvd2006: then apt-get -f install
[05:41] <Keyseir> Would a 2gb card be sufficient for an ubuntu install, or should I look into something crazy
[05:41] <Keyseir> ?
[05:42] <pppoe_dude> Keyseir, i wouldn't recommend installing linux on a flash drive
[05:42] <Blake_> just upgradded to dapper and now wireless wont work, using an acx111 card, no encryption, and none of the usual tricks work, ive read network-manager might work but cant install it without a connection, the hardware and driver (ndiswrapper) are recognized but cant find the accespoints
[05:42] <pppoe_dude> Keyseir, if anything, just usa a liveCD image on it or a small distro like DSL
[05:42] <Blake_> pleease, anyone?
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> Blake_, you need the firmware
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> just sec
[05:43] <pppoe_dude> Blake_, is your card turned on? make sure it is, then run 'sudo ifup <interfacename>' then run 'iwlist scanning' and tell me if u get anything
[05:44] <pppoe_dude> or listen to someone else who might know the specifics of that card ;)
[05:44] <Shizboom> is there anyway i can run a .asp website as my background?
[05:44] <Blake_> ya, sudo ifup wlan0 doesnt recieve any offers
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> ok, so that is a TI chipset
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> hmmm
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> Blake_, how about ifconfig -a
[05:45] <Blake_> hold on
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> may show as eth1
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> or 2
[05:45] <mattwestm> how do I remove all dependencies that were installed when I installed a program?
[05:45] <pppoe_dude> Blake_, iwlist scanning returns no accesspoints?
[05:45] <Blake_> no
[05:45] <pppoe_dude> mattwestm, use aptitude
[05:46] <nomasteryoda> Blake_, run lspci and see what the version of your card is
[05:46] <Blake_> everything seems to be working but cant find accespoints anymore
[05:46] <nomasteryoda> then lets find the firmware
[05:46] <pvd2006> thanks a lot crimsun, now I can run make for cinelerra
[05:46] <mattwestm> pppoe_dude: I did to install it, what do I do to remove them?
[05:46] <Keyseir> What about running ubuntu off of an external hard drive? I've got a friend who's in airforce training and he wants a way to be able to run ubuntu on a friends computer, and save stuff.
[05:46] <Blake_> ACX 111
[05:46] <Shizboom> is there anyway to make my background include a webpage?
[05:47] <pppoe_dude> Keyseir, you can do it... its just not recommended on flash drives... external drives *should* be no problem
[05:47] <Blake_> ifconfig -a gets some stuff, cant copy and paste though, on a different comp
[05:47] <LGKeiz> Has Anyone here installed vnc on Ubuntu I need help x.x
[05:48] <Blake_> ifconfig -a   no packets or bytes anywhere
[05:48] <Keyseir> pppoe_dude: I appreciate the input.
[05:48] <nomasteryoda> Blake_, it should show your card name
[05:48] <nomasteryoda> sudo ifconfig -a
[05:48] <kakalto> with the kubuntu installer, I set my partitions and everything, and now it's sitting at "checking fat32 partition on /dev/sda5"... it's about 130GB partition, and the kubuntu system seems to have frozen. what can I do?
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> look for eth1, eth2 or somesuch
[05:49] <TokenBad> is there something with an iso that could make it readable in windows but not in linux?
[05:49] <pppoe_dude> Blake_, run iwconfig... should give you specifics about wireless only
[05:49] <Blake_> theres eth0 lo sit0 and wlan0
[05:49] <Blake_> what kind of specifics HW address?
[05:49] <Blake_> ok
[05:50] <Blake_> acx v0.3.21
[05:50] <TubaSoldier> is it possible to use a widescreen framebuffer mode with grub on boot?
[05:50] <pppoe_dude> TokenBad, not if its 9660 ISO
[05:50] <[Ex0r] > anyone here have problems with frostwire going really slow?
[05:50] <ainull_> hello
[05:50] <Blake_> mode = managed, ESSID is correct
[05:51] <ainull_> any one know where i can find packages for breezy for xine ?
[05:51] <pppoe_dude> ainull_, from universe/multiverse repos
[05:51] <pppoe_dude> ainull_, you can also go to packages.ubuntu.com
[05:51] <TokenBad> pppoe_dude, I have a iso file...got it from friend...sfv checks out fine...it works in windows but can't mount or burn it in linux
[05:51] <kakalto> anyone?
[05:52] <Blake_> i read on some forum that it might work if i use network-manager (diff card though i think) but i cant install network manager cuz i have no connection
[05:52] <[Ex0r] > anyone ?
[05:53] <ainull_> pppoe_dude: it has the old version, i am looking for the new version of xine
[05:53] <nvez> Good evening.
[05:53] <pppoe_dude> Blake_, do yo have removable media?
[05:53] <pppoe_dude> ainull_, that would probably break your packages
[05:53] <Blake_> ya
[05:53] <ainull_> pppoe_dude: is it a good idea to install the xine packages from teh dapper dvd ?
[05:54] <pppoe_dude> ainull_, not on a breezy system no
[05:54] <spades> ainull_ compile it from source
[05:54] <spades> thats what i did
[05:54] <pppoe_dude> ainull_, best way is to just compile it and keep it in one directory
[05:54] <firstc624> shoot i think i missed something i actually wanted to see....grrr
[05:54] <ainull_> yeah thats what i am planning to do, but checking if there were packlages already
[05:55] <firstc624> how do i run a windowz app under ubuntu
[05:55] <LGKeiz> How do I install new themes o.o
[05:55] <spades> !themes
[05:55] <pppoe_dude> Blake_, just go to packages.ubuntu.com and download network-manager and all dependancies
[05:55] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:55] <pppoe_dude> Blake_, then move them to the other comp. and use dpkg to install
[05:56] <buzzed> how would i use an external monitor with my lap top
[05:56] <HackerX> pppoe_dude, ok im back but that scanimage -l thing doesnt work
[05:56] <Blake_> i went there and got it and a few of the dependencies, guess i need all, but it wasnt finding where the dependencies were
[05:56] <pppoe_dude> HackerX, scanimage -L
[05:56] <LGKeiz> !changethemes
[05:56] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE)
[05:56] <jonas-irc> i got a damn problem... my hda is partioned into two partitions, hda1 and hda5. hda1 is my XP partion (NTFS) and hda5 is formated to ext3, but when i have mounted it, and tries to explore it, the damn hda5 is read only... anyone got any suggestion?
[05:57] <HackerX> pppoe_dude, Nope command not found
[05:57] <pppoe_dude> Blake_, they should all be on the repos there
[05:57] <pppoe_dude> HackerX, try lspci and see if any lines show a webcam
[05:58] <Blake_> was using gdebi to try to install but when i tried to install it it just said it needed dependencies, do i have to install them in a certain order or can i make it find where i have the packages located?
[05:59] <Newbie-Ubuntu> Hi everybody
[05:59] <HackerX> pppoe_dude, No its isnt on any of the lines
[05:59] <pppoe_dude> Blake_, u have to install them in certain order
[05:59] <HackerX> pppoe_dude, its a logitech quickcam
[05:59] <pppoe_dude> HackerX, plug in the webcam then past 'dmesg' output on a pastebin
[05:59] <Blake_> ok, how do i know the order? whatever it tells me i need first?
[06:00] <boxahy> when setting my username and password, my keyboard was acting up and entered extra charachters like eeexammplee
[06:00] <boxahy> i got my username right
[06:00] <LGKeiz> How would I change themes, Because.. it saids invalid format when I try to install a theme o.o
[06:00] <boxahy> but my password is now wrong and i dont know it
[06:00] <LGKeiz> And.. I went to those links :P
[06:01] <pppoe_dude> Blake_, on the list on packages.ubuntu.com
[06:01] <HackerX> pppoe_dude, what the link for paste bin again?
[06:01] <pppoe_dude> !pastebin
[06:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:02] <boxahy> hah, thats odd. my kyboard started to do it again and it logged on!
[06:02] <Newbie-Ubuntu> Question about the Ubuntu ISO Images: I got windows installed, and I want to install Ubunto on another partition, so I want the GRUB not in the master boot, to allow me chose from windows or linux, which ISO Image should I get, the Desktop CD or the Alternate Install CD? Thank you
[06:02] <[Ex0r] > stupid frostwire
[06:02] <HackerX> pppoe_dude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17592
[06:02] <boxahy> any idea on how to prevent my keboard from doing it or something. i use a logitech wireless desktop on a kvm
[06:02] <pppoe_dude> Newbie-Ubuntu, alternate
[06:03] <Gareth^> Newbie-Ubuntu, putting grub on the MBR wouldn't stop you from choosing windows (grub has full windows support through chainloading)
[06:03] <Newbie-Ubuntu> Ok, thank you very much.
[06:03] <Newbie-Ubuntu> Oh ok
[06:03] <Gareth^> although like he said, alt CD (though neither are specific as to where they put grub - alt is just more reliable)
[06:04] <Newbie-Ubuntu> Ah perfect. Thank you very much.
[06:04] <pppoe_dude> hackel, please paste output of lspci too
[06:04] <LGKeiz> Alright.. I try to install the new theme.. but what file to I click to install it o_o
[06:04] <Newbie-Ubuntu> And they install the same software right?
[06:04] <elkbuntu> Gareth^, Newbie-Ubuntu, the desktop cd works perfectly fine for dualbooting
[06:04] <dadgumit> trying to insall fglrx, per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI getting multiple errors, anyone feel like helping a nub to ubuntu?
[06:04] <pppoe_dude> oops.. HackerX not hackel
[06:04] <Gareth^> elkbuntu, I know - I just said that a bit ago
[06:05] <Blake_> ok, im gonna go try this again, dependencies r a bitch
[06:05] <pppoe_dude> bl
[06:05] <pppoe_dude> Blake_, one other way..
[06:05] <Gareth^> Newbie-Ubuntu, yes - it's just the liveCD gives you a fancy graphical interface for the install and you can play tetris while it installs.  I've had some issues with it though - crashes, etc so I've stuck with alt CDs
[06:05] <elkbuntu> Gareth^ not recently enough :P, only just sat down
[06:05] <Newbie-Ubuntu> So, I could get anyone but the Alt would be more reliable? Both install the same packages?
[06:05] <pppoe_dude> Blake_, do dpkg -i <package names> (for all the packages)
[06:05] <HackerX> pppoe_dude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17593
[06:05] <pppoe_dude> Blake_, then when you do this for all, apt-get -f install should fix the configurations
[06:05] <Newbie-Ubuntu> Ah ok, Thank you Gareth^
[06:06] <Gareth^> elkbuntu, you probably missed it - looking back it is kind of cryptic
[06:06] <dadgumit> firs error on (sudo apt-get install linux-686) E: couldn't find package linux-686
[06:06] <dadgumit> lil help?
[06:06] <dadgumit> no idea where to go from thta error either
[06:06] <boxahy> is there a way i can change my password without having to sudo? i know this sounds like im trying to get into someones system but im not
[06:06] <boxahy> lol
[06:06] <pppoe_dude> boxahy, passwd
[06:07] <elkbuntu> Gareth^, confusion is a chronic habit of large channels ;)
[06:07] <pppoe_dude> boxahy, but you shouldnt have to sudo anyway
[06:07] <dadgumit> little help maybe?
[06:07] <boxahy> ok cool. now i just have to figure out why my keyboard is doing this
[06:07] <[Ex0r] > grr, what the heck is wrong with frostwire today
[06:07] <pppoe_dude> dadgumit, why are you installing linux-686?... try installing linux-image instead
[06:07] <Gareth^> elkbuntu, hooray for forums!
[06:08] <pppoe_dude> oops... dadgumit , linux-image-686
[06:08] <dadgumit> I am trying to install fglrx per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:08] <jonas-irc> i got a damn problem... my hda is partioned into two partitions, hda1 and hda5. hda1 is my XP partion (NTFS) and hda5 is formated to ext3,
[06:08] <jonas-irc> but when i have mounted it, and tries to explore it, the damn hda5 is read only... anyone got any suggestion?
[06:08] <pppoe_dude> dadgumit, you probably need headers
[06:08] <dadgumit> headers?
[06:08] <pppoe_dude> dadgumit, linux-headers would do that for you
[06:08] <HackerX> pppoe_dude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17593
[06:08] <boxahy> pppoe_dude, i need my current password. thats the problem. my keyboard acted up while typing it in
[06:08] <dadgumit> not for sure wat that is?
[06:08] <farky> Can someone help me with Firestarter?
[06:09] <Gareth^> heh every time I see someone say dadgumit I think they're cursing in a very odd way
[06:09] <pppoe_dude> boxahy, you can login from liveCD
[06:09] <kolaje> how do i kill programs in cli?
[06:09] <nvez> Heh.
[06:09] <boxahy> pppoe_dude, then what file would i have to change
[06:09] <Gareth^> kolaje, kill <process ID>
[06:09] <DShepherd> what other app other than opera is available via dapper-commercial?
[06:09] <dadgumit> I should mention that i am in bash, dont' hav x workign yet
[06:09] <nvez> I love the new install from Live CD feature.
[06:09] <boxahy> damn this stupid kvm
[06:09] <nvez> :P
[06:09] <pppoe_dude> boxahy, google 'change pasword linux shadow'
[06:09] <Gareth^> kolaje, to get te process ID run "top"
[06:09] <LGKeiz> Okay, When I drag the theme to the theme manager, It saids that The file is invalid format, on all of them, any idea why :x?
[06:09] <pppoe_dude> boxahy, or replace change with clear
[06:09] <buzzed> i have a laptop... and want to use the svideo out...
[06:09] <dadgumit> and that i am a gigantic nub
[06:09] <kolaje> thanks Gareth^
[06:09] <Newbie-Ubuntu> Now that I know which image to get, I'll go read the FAQ and stuff. Thank for the help!
[06:10] <nvez> LGKeiz, aren't you supposed to put them somewhere in the theme directory?
[06:10] <nvez> I thin it's, hold on.
[06:10] <abstractism> hey #ubuntu
[06:10] <dadgumit> so far i have installed and reinstalled ubuntu about thirty times in thirty different ways
[06:10] <abstractism> whats up
[06:10] <userundefine> tired abstractism
[06:10] <abstractism> same here, but just finished watching a movie
[06:10] <DShepherd> dadgumit: kool.. i bet that is some record or something.. yay!
[06:10] <dadgumit> :)
[06:10] <nvez> I'm not sure, LGKeiz.
[06:11] <dadgumit> all in under 3 days
[06:11] <nvez> I'm pretty sure it's a directory in the home dir though.
[06:11] <abstractism> bicentennial man
[06:11] <pppoe_dude> HackerX, did u google your model + ubuntu or + linux?
[06:11] <dadgumit> IF I could get X working i would beswell
[06:11] <HackerX> not yet
[06:11] <pppoe_dude> HackerX, your model might need to have further modules installed or might not be supported at all...
[06:11] <pppoe_dude> HackerX, try googling ;)
[06:12] <pppoe_dude> LGKeiz, are you keeping them in .tar.gz format
[06:12] <farky> Can someone help me with Firestarter?
[06:12] <kuzmaster> hello all, im back
[06:12] <pppoe_dude> farky, ask your question
[06:12] <dadgumit> can someone help me get X working
[06:12] <dadgumit> ?
[06:13] <kuzmaster> who was it that was helping me before?
[06:13] <jonas-irc> i fixed my problem all by my own :D
[06:13] <farky> pppoe_dude: hold on let me to get the problem again
[06:13] <kuzmaster> because it did sudo ifconfig ra0, then sudo iwconfig ra0
[06:13] <kolaje> is there a kill command to just kill everything that's running in X?
[06:14] <Blake_> so i gotta get the dependencies for the dependencies too? and what about the dependencies for the dependencies of the dependencies?   fuck
[06:14] <kuzmaster> ill pastbin my results soon
[06:14] <pppoe_dude> ubotu tell Blake_ about language
[06:14] <DShepherd> what other app other than opera is available via dapper-commercial?
[06:14] <Blake_> sry
[06:14] <pppoe_dude> Blake_, the other deps can probably be resoved by apt-get and CD
[06:14] <kungfuhamster> I'm having some XGL/Compiz issues today. I followed the guide here (http://tazforum.thetazzone.com/viewtopic.php?t=2189) and everything works fine until I try loading a non-XGL Gnome. Once the splash screen disappears and the panels show up, the screen goes black and dumps me back to the GDM login. Attempting a second login or using CTRL+Alt+Backspace freezes the system, requiring a reboot. What can I do to fix it?
[06:14] <pppoe_dude> Blake_, apt-get -f install like i said... do it between packages see if it works
[06:15] <DShepherd> kungfuhamster: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:15] <kungfuhamster> ok
[06:15] <andy-> does Cedega cost money?!
[06:15] <Blake_> ok
[06:15] <pppoe_dude> Blake_, best way to do it is after you install everything you have
[06:16] <dadgumit> can anyone help me with X?
[06:16] <nvez> dadgumit, just ask.
[06:16] <arooni> hey folks
[06:16] <pppoe_dude> leave all the packages unconfigured... if it doesnt install at all, you can try a --force-all flag then do the apt-get -f install
[06:16] <boxahy> pppoe_dude, could i just set a root password then change it?
[06:16] <stevekl> The source-o-matic (for dapper atleast) gives me broken apt sources. Does anyone know of a good dapper sources.list with all the media and illegal stuff?
[06:16] <arooni> how can i get about 10 random jpegs on my computer really fast (i dont care what they are pictures of )
[06:17] <[Ex0r] > Anyone here having trouble with frostwire freezing up?
[06:17] <pppoe_dude> [Ex0r] , why not use gtk-gnutella?
[06:17] <crimsun> arooni: you should have some in /usr/lib/openoffice/share/gallery/www-back/ already
[06:17] <Shizboom> My system monitor says my processor is at 100% but when i go to the processes tab i can't see what is taking up all my cpu, any ideas?
[06:17] <[Ex0r] > pppoe_dude, i like the ease of frostwire. This is the first time in a month it's done it
[06:18] <pppoe_dude> Shizboom, use 'top'
[06:18] <Shizboom> in terminal?
[06:18] <kuzmaster> blake, sounds like your having kinda the same problem as me, but i diddnt upgrade
[06:18] <pppoe_dude> Shizboom, yes
[06:18] <dadgumit> nvez: I have inbutu installed, at the bash, but i can't get X up, am trying to install the driver per (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI) , however I get the error "Couldn't find package linux-686"
[06:18] <arooni> whats the shortcut for home directory?
[06:18] <nvez> um
[06:18] <nvez> try
[06:19] <nvez> linux-i686 ?
[06:19] <nvez> ;p
[06:19] <[Ex0r] > arooni, $HOME
[06:19] <dadgumit> seriously?
[06:19] <dadgumit> i am a nub, and just following the walk through
[06:19] <Shizboom> hmm what is "gdebi-gtk" ?
[06:19] <pppoe_dude> dadgumit, theres is not such package as linux-686... you need linux-image-686
[06:19] <crimsun> pppoe_dude: sure there is.
[06:19] <dadgumit> tried both, couldn't find either
[06:19] <crimsun> !info linux-686
[06:19] <ubotu> linux-686: Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.. In repository restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.23 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[06:19] <pppoe_dude> crimsun, there is?
[06:20] <pppoe_dude> i c
[06:20] <pppoe_dude> !info linux-image-686
[06:20] <ubotu> linux-image-686: Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.23 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[06:20] <dadgumit> is there a command I can do to find out what kernel I am running
[06:20] <crimsun> dadgumit: ``uname -r''
[06:21] <pppoe_dude> i guess linux-686 includes headers maybe crimsun ?
[06:21] <abstractism> whoa, who knows anything about the commercial repository
[06:21] <dadgumit> 2.6.12-9-386
[06:21] <crimsun> pppoe_dude: no, -restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[06:21] <abstractism> I'm reading about it on digg now
[06:21] <crimsun> abstractism: sure.
[06:21] <sysrpl> hello
[06:21] <sysrpl> how do i change a file's mime type/meta data? i create a text file, rename it as a myfile.sh, and konqueror still shows the filetpye as text. same thing with other tpyes i create. waht's the deal?
[06:21] <dadgumit> I chose that one on the expert install rather than the plain jane "linux-686" on( I thought I rememebered it as 386 thouh)
[06:22] <pppoe_dude> crimsun, ok gotcha
[06:22] <crimsun> sysrpl: libmagic.
[06:22] <[Ex0r] > right after the damn update it started messing up
[06:22] <dadgumit> any ideas?
[06:22] <[Ex0r] > piece of crap
[06:22] <pppoe_dude> dadgumit,
[06:22] <sysrpl> libmagic?
[06:22] <dadgumit> <- listens
[06:22] <pppoe_dude> do you have your repos setup ? dadgumit
[06:22] <illusina> Hello everyone, I recently tried to get my ati drivers working by following the instructions on this page: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1187996&postcount=5 -- I rebooted, and the drivers were still the same. But now, I can't even start amarok (kde music app) which requires libGL.so.1 (in the instructions we manually symlinked it elsewhere). Does anyone happen to know the original symlinking so I can revert the changes
[06:22] <sysrpl> that's a package
[06:22] <sysrpl> i take it
[06:22] <farky> pppoe_dude: I get this when I try and start firestarter: http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6615/screenshotfailedtostartthefire.png
[06:23] <dadgumit> pppoe_dude: I dont' know what a repos is, sorry, googling
[06:23] <sysrpl> but, where is the file's emta data stored if not by virtue of it's extension?
[06:23] <crimsun> sysrpl: and it's how programs identify the type of file aside from the MIME.
[06:23] <pppoe_dude> dadgumit, you might need to enable the repositories in your sources.list file.
[06:23] <dadgumit> ok, seems to be the "universe, multiverse stuff"
[06:23] <dadgumit> i told the installer i wanted all that
[06:23] <dadgumit> how can i check?
[06:23] <dadgumit> thanks for your help btws
[06:24] <kuzmaster> there, here is my output of "sudo iwconfig ra0" http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17594
[06:24] <pppoe_dude> dadgumit, cat /etc/apt/source.list and see if theres any comment signs beside any 'deb'
[06:24] <illusina> can somehow who is running the Mesa drivers and has tried to install the drivers please do a ls -la /usr/lib | grep libGL.so.1 ?
[06:24] <kuzmaster> for who ever was helping me earlire (sorry i forget)
[06:24] <dadgumit> pppoe_Dude: copy, doing
[06:24] <kuzmaster> !wireless
[06:24] <ubotu> wifi is Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[06:24] <boxahy> how can i reset my root password using the install cd?
[06:25] <pppoe_dude> farky, did you set up firestarter properly with your network cards and everything? (i.e. internet interface, lan interface, etc...)
[06:25] <[Ex0r] > grr, this is exactly why I switched back to windows
[06:25] <kuzmaster> boxahy, by deafult the root password is your account password
[06:25] <[Ex0r] > last time*
[06:25] <polpak> boxahy: you should be able to boot into recovery mode and just change your password for your admin user
[06:25] <pppoe_dude> boxahy, you need to look up the password shadow file
[06:25] <polpak> boxahy: the root password is diasbled
[06:25] <pppoe_dude> boxahy, did u google?
[06:26] <boxahy> yeah, i just got a little lost pppoe_dude
[06:26] <pppoe_dude> boxahy, 1 sec
[06:26] <kuzmaster> help anyone?
[06:26] <boxahy> ok, thanks
[06:26] <_Skynet_> Wsp alll
[06:26] <kuzmaster> can anyone at all help me?
[06:27] <abstractism> oh snap, its skynet
[06:27] <abstractism> protect your networks
[06:27] <pppoe_dude> http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6239-0.html?forumID=54&threadID=189345 boxahy
[06:27] <polpak> kuzmaster: what's the problem?
[06:27] <_Skynet_> Have no fear, Skynet is using Ubuntu
[06:27] <dadgumit> pppoe_dude: I am looking in sources.list and the contents of the file are: cdrom:[Ububntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[06:27] <_Skynet_> http://people.ubuntu.com/~jdub/random/3ubuntu.jpg
[06:27] <kuzmaster> my wireless connection wont work
[06:27] <dadgumit> that is the whole file
[06:27] <kuzmaster> it worked out of the box for kubuntu 6.06, but not for ubuntu 6.06
[06:27] <abstractism> _Skynet_: BUT thats wrong!
[06:27] <pppoe_dude> dadgumit, do you have access to the internet from that computer?
[06:27] <revilot> kuzmaster: what card do you have
[06:27] <kuzmaster> dlink
[06:28] <dadgumit> yes
[06:28] <dadgumit> i believe, lemme make sure
[06:28] <kuzmaster> im pretty sure it uses the RaLink chipset
[06:28] <abstractism> can't you come here to just ass technical questions?
[06:28] <dadgumit> affirmative, have access to interwebs
[06:28] <pppoe_dude> dadgumit, go to firefox, type 'source o matic' in the address bar, then create a new sources.list file from there with the first two options and first two repos enabled
[06:28] <dadgumit> I don' t have a gui on the machine, that ismy problem
[06:29] <kuzmaster> ive tried changing it to dhcp, static, and ive also donw "sudo iwconfig essid ANY", but that diddnt output anything
[06:29] <pppoe_dude> dadgumit, not a problem...
[06:29] <polpak> boxahy: you shouldn't enable the root password. you just need to use your user password and sudo
[06:29] <Blake_> pppoe_dude, think i can get away with just network-monitor and its deps, and not the recomended gnome-network-monitor and all its deps too?
[06:29] <archetypo> is there any performance advantage to running amd64 desktop rather than the other?
[06:29] <pppoe_dude> boxahy, did you mistype the password/forget it or never used it at all?
[06:29] <kuzmaster> revilot, somone also asked me to post my output of "sudo iwconfig ra0", and that can be found here  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17594
[06:30] <boxahy> i mistyped it
[06:30] <pppoe_dude> dadgumit, you need to use 'links'
[06:30] <boxahy> but i got in once
[06:30] <farky> pppoe_dude: yeah i set up everything fine, but just trying to actually start the firewall gives that message
[06:30] <dadgumit> archetypo, from what i have read it is minimal and not worth the hassle unless you have specific need, my two cents
[06:30] <pppoe_dude> boxahy, ok then you need to follow my link
[06:30] <boxahy> ok, how do i mount hda5 on the install cd?
[06:30] <dadgumit> archetypo: that is for general use, if you have specific 64 bit needs that would obviously change
[06:30] <pppoe_dude> Blake_, you might... but some of the other deps are actually part of the interface
[06:31] <polpak> boxahy: can you boot your installation at all?
[06:31] <boxahy> polpak, just to login
[06:31] <pppoe_dude> dadgumit, weird tho... you should have a bunch of other lines in there
[06:31] <polpak> boxahy: you just need to select recovery mode from the grub menu
[06:31] <boxahy> ah ok, thanks
[06:31] <kuzmaster> polpak, revilot, can you help me at all?
[06:31] <polpak> boxahy: then you will be logged in as root and you can change your user password
[06:31] <dadgumit> pppoe_dude: I figured, but that's alli got, any ideas (maybe install #32 lol)?
[06:32] <keithhhhh> Can people tell me their fav email client,  so far Evolution looks really good to me...
[06:32] <pppoe_dude> dadgumit, well apt-get install elinks
[06:32] <Blake_> i downloaded to main deps and am about to burn it to a cd, the gnome-network-monitor has a million deps, i probably have a bunch of them but i dunno which ones
[06:32] <pppoe_dude> dadgumit, its a text based web browser
[06:32] <FCTE> keithhhhh, I use Thunderbird
[06:32] <polpak> kuzmaster: if it worked in kubuntu there's no reason it wouldn't work in ubuntu. it's using the same drivers, etc. Are you sure your wireless settings are correct for your network?
[06:32] <dadgumit> pppoe_dude: I actually may have botched that part of the install due to a fat finger, am tired, any way to rerun that part of th einstall?
[06:32] <pppoe_dude> dadgumit, you can generate the file from there and save it in your directory
[06:32] <keithhhhh> FCTE: ah might be a good choice
[06:32] <kuzmaster> im pretty sure
[06:33] <pppoe_dude> dadgumit, just search google for 'source o matic ubuntu' and click on first hit
[06:33] <kuzmaster> do you want me to post my /ect/network/interface for both distros?
[06:33] <FCTE> keithhhhh, if you don't all that extra stuff and just want a simple email cliet, that's the way to go.
[06:33] <revilot> kuzmaster: do you use WEP
[06:33] <dadgumit> pppoe_dude get this: E: Couldn't find package elinks
[06:33] <kuzmaster> revilot, no
[06:33] <dadgumit> lol
[06:33] <Blake_> or network-monitor-gnome, not gnome-network-monitor, whatever
[06:33] <farky> pppoe_dude: yeah i set up everything fine, but just trying to actually start the firewall gives that message
[06:33] <polpak> kuzmaster: sure, as well as the output from lsmod and lspci
[06:34] <pppoe_dude> farky, :- you need to make sure your interfaces are set up properly. also make sure they are both up (ifconfig)
[06:34] <kuzmaster> hmmm, ok
[06:34] <dadgumit> pppoe_dude: onna try apptitude, if it isn't in there I will reinstall just to make sure, quick question though if I do, which kernal should I use? just the 386 or the most verbose one?
[06:34] <ubuntu_fan> Hey. Just a quick question. Does Ubuntu Server 6.06 come with Gnome installed?
[06:34] <pppoe_dude> dadgumit, links
[06:34] <pppoe_dude> dadgumit, instead
[06:34] <kuzmaster> btw, im on a duel boot
[06:34] <kuzmaster> or actually tripple boot
[06:34] <kuzmaster> lol
[06:34] <pppoe_dude> !info links
[06:34] <ubotu> links: Character mode WWW browser. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.99+1.00pre12-1 (dapper), package size 375 kB, installed size 936 kB
[06:34] <farky> pppoe_dude: everything looks to be working ok
[06:34] <boxahy> i got my password changed!
[06:34] <boxahy> hurrah~!
[06:35] <pppoe_dude> dadgumit, i am unsure which one is on CD, but one of the following should be : links, elinks, links2, lynx
[06:35] <pvd2006> Is it safe to sudo apt-get clean?
[06:35] <kuzmaster> where can i download the .deb for the kubuntu wireless manager
[06:35] <pppoe_dude> farky, can you close firestarter, then from command line type: 'sudo /etc/init.d/firestarter restart' and tell me what you get
[06:35] <DShepherd> pvd2006: it depends
[06:35] <kuzmaster> cos ubuntu dosnt seem to have one of those
[06:36] <ubuntu_fan> Does Ubuntu Server 6.06 come with Gnome installed?
[06:36] <pppoe_dude> boxahy, cool
[06:36] <archetypo> ubuntu_fan no
[06:36] <dadgumit> ppoe_dude: I have none of those, I am going to reinstall ubuntu and make sure I don't bork the repos section
[06:36] <archetypo> ubuntu_fan but apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will install it
[06:36] <FCTE> I thought the server install was minimal and CLI
[06:36] <techmad> kuzmaster: ubuntu does have a wireless manager its just kinda odd
[06:36] <DShepherd> pvd2006: on what you call safe :-). if you mean it wont crash your computer then yes it is safe
[06:36] <pvd2006> lol
[06:36] <kuzmaster> DShepherd, where can i find it?
[06:36] <pvd2006> I mean will it mess up anything
[06:37] <pppoe_dude> dadgumit, wait
[06:37] <farky> pppoe_dude: it failed on the startup
[06:37] <ubuntu_fan> thanks
[06:37] <DShepherd> kuzmaster: where can you find what?
[06:37] <kuzmaster> techmad, where can i find it
[06:37] <techmad> kuzmaster: System>Admin>Networking
[06:37] <pppoe_dude> dadgumit, actually never mind... its probably easier your way
[06:37] <kuzmaster> DShepherd, sorry, i click on the wrong name
[06:37] <javb> Hi there, i `m trying to install Xgl under my laptop. i have intel i915.. i installed it, it runs and i installed Compiz, but it runs really slow, like rendering is not working or something.. i need help, any ideas?
[06:37] <kuzmaster> techmad, oh, that
[06:37] <DShepherd> kuzmaster: ok
[06:37] <pppoe_dude> farky, any specific messages?
[06:37] <polpak> !xgl
[06:37] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:37] <boxahy> now to upgrade to dapper
[06:38] <dadgumit> ppoe_dude: sometimes brut force > elegance :)
[06:38] <techmad> kuzmaster: then click on the card and properties :)
[06:38] <redblades> Where does Ubuntu keep the Apache Error logs?
[06:38] <dadgumit> i will idle in here on reinstall
[06:38] <pppoe_dude> redblades, try /var/logs?
[06:38] <pppoe_dude> *log
[06:38] <redblades> I can't see it there
[06:38] <techmad> kuzmaster: kde also has a wifi manager i just cant remember the name :(
[06:38] <redblades> AGHHHH!!! I was looking for httpd
[06:38] <gdb> redblades: /var/log/apache2/error.log
[06:39] <farky> pppoe_dude: nope
[06:39] <redblades> Yeah
[06:39] <pppoe_dude> techmad, there kwlan
[06:39] <pppoe_dude> *theres
[06:39] <andrewski> !edgy
[06:39] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:39] <andrewski> !schedule
[06:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:40] <Daveyboy> wht is the package name for php
[06:40] <crimsun> there are quite a few, Daveyboy
[06:40] <Daveyboy> well for phpmyadmin
[06:41] <kuzmaster> here is my /ect/network/interfaces, lspci output and lsmod output for kubuntu
[06:41] <kuzmaster> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17595
[06:41] <andrewski> anyone know the current status of edgy?  according to the timetable, it looks like merges are almost done, but it still seems early to start using it.
[06:41] <dadgumit> ANYONE know if the basic install has all of the repos in it?
[06:41] <dadgumit> don't feel like going through expert again
[06:42] <andrewski> dadgumit: it does not.  but they can be added without using expert.
[06:42] <crimsun> andrewski: don't run it unless you know what you're doing. :)
[06:42] <HackerX> *~*~* What is a good webcam software? *~*~*
[06:42] <crimsun> edgy will break faster and harder than dapper.
[06:42] <HackerX> ! webcam
[06:42] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:42] <andrewski> crimsun: there's a lot of X stuff been happening on edgy?
[06:43] <pppoe_dude> dadgumit, it should have them at least commented out in the file
[06:43] <crimsun> andrewski: we haven't completed the merge with Debian, nor have we even mapped out how 7.1 is going to get in.
[06:43] <andrewski> crimsun: ok.  is there a way to track the status without subscribing to ubuntu-devel?
[06:44] <dadgumit> pppoe_Dude: OK, I will give the basic install a shot
[06:44] <kuzmaster> polpak, and here is my /ect/network/interface from ubuntu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17596. im just gonna boot into ubuntu now and get the output of lspci and lsmod
[06:44] <crimsun> andrewski: what do you mean by "track the status"?
[06:44] <meltdown> Hey, has anybody set up the fglrx ATI driver before?
[06:44] <andrewski> crimsun: well, to see when the activity ceases to be on huge stuff and when it can be useable for someone like me who likes to help out with bug reports and such.
[06:44] <andrewski> meltdown: yes
[06:45] <farky> pppoe_dude: nope, no other messages
[06:45] <meltdown> andrewski: I've been trying for the last hour and a half, and I can't for the life of me get DRI to initialize
[06:45] <wrathlo> hi guys
[06:45] <crimsun> andrewski: you generally need to have a finger on the pulse of #ubuntu-devel, the ubuntu-devel{,-announce} and edgy-changes mailing lists
[06:45] <andrewski> meltdown: which instructions did you follow?
[06:46] <andrewski> crimsun: ok, i just generally find ubuntu-devel to be a bit high-traffic for my timeframe.  thanks.
[06:46] <pppoe_dude> farky, sounds like something with the network interfaces... ask around and wait and see...
[06:46] <meltdown> andrewski: I did the ones on the Ubuntu Wiki first... then searched forums... then tried the ATI Proprietary driver...
[06:46] <farky> pppoe_dude: thanks
[06:46] <crimsun> andrewski: u-d is very low traffic compared with u-u or lkml
[06:46] <andrewski> meltdown: DRI is a bit tricky, but the wiki instructions should be the general thing you follow.
[06:46] <pppoe_dude> farky, no prob :)
[06:47] <andrewski> crimsun: i guess it's all relative. ;)
[06:47] <andrewski> crimsun: by the way, i still didn't get that lirc package working; i'd love to get it settled if you have the time sometime.
[06:47] <crimsun> andrewski: I don't have time atm to troubleshoot it.
[06:48] <meltdown> andrewski: I've tried it, but nothing seems to work. I think one of the problems is that I get an error when I try to modprobe fglrx (lsmod turns up nothing)
[06:48] <andrewski> crimsun: ok.  i'll seek you out later. ;)  thanks again for the help so far.
[06:48] <andrewski> meltdown: dunno; i never really had too much trouble with it.  my trouble was with GL.
[06:48] <meltdown> andrewski: "FATAL: Error inserting fgrx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/misc/fglrx.ki): Operation not permitted
[06:49] <meltdown> This was done as Sudo
[06:49] <meltdown> ...fglrx.ko*
[06:49] <andrewski> meltdown: that was never necessary for me.  the wiki instructions don't include that, do they?
[06:50] <meltdown> andrewski: No, but the fglrx module doesn't appear in lsmod, even after reboot
[06:50] <richee> Is there any application which I can use to create thumbnails out of images
[06:50] <richee> ?
[06:50] <richee> Can I do it using gimp ?
[06:50] <andrewski> meltdown: hmm, strange.
[06:51] <andrewski> meltdown: a reboot wasn't necessary for meeither.
[06:51] <TestDrivenBug> Hi, I accidently torched /etc/mysql/* files. dpkg-reconfigure or even reinstalling mysql-server didn't help, what do i install to regenerate these files?
[06:52] <Dial_tone> i believe imagemagick will do thumbnails
[06:52] <richee> ok
[06:52] <richee> let me give it a try
[06:52] <atrophic> Anybody know of a graphical diff tool?
[06:53] <atrophic> like winmerge, only without the win part
[06:53] <TestDrivenBug> or rather, do how i check which config files are generated by which package?
[06:53] <HackerX> *^*^* Automatix Messed up my sources.list what should i do to restore it??? *^*^*
[06:53] <Dial_tone> xdiff
[06:53] <andrewski> !automatix
[06:53] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[06:54] <Sanay> Hello
[06:54] <jwmbiker> Hi
[06:54] <Sanay> I installed bind 9.2.0 manually in /etc/named
[06:54] <Blake_> ok network-monitor didnt work, still no wireless
[06:54] <Sanay> but now I don't see a named.conf file anywhere
[06:55] <HackerX> WOW thanks for all the F'in help i really do appreciate it
[06:55] <Blake_> is there anyway to downgrade back to breezy?
[06:55] <jwmbiker> in 6.06 desktop, how do I reset the root passwd?
[06:55] <jwmbiker> there was no place in the install to give the root pw, like other linux distros
[06:55] <andrewski> jwmbiker: sudo su; passwd
[06:56] <atrophic> HackerX, a) be patient, b) search the forums for the default sources.list OR just restore the one automatix made a backup of
[06:56] <nomasteryoda> jwmbiker, your ppassword is the password for sudo
[06:56] <nomasteryoda> don't need root
[06:56] <nomasteryoda> sudo -s
[06:56] <nomasteryoda> !tell jwmbiker about sudo
[06:56] <jwmbiker> I need to install some s/w; I'm used to su -, then do all the stuff.  So sudo -s is the way to do it now?
[06:56] <nomasteryoda> yes
[06:57] <nomasteryoda> the safer way
[06:57] <jwmbiker> ok; reading sudo man page now.  thx...
[06:57] <nomasteryoda> or sudo pkg.deb
[06:57] <nomasteryoda> np
[06:57] <Blake_> is there anyway to downgrade back to breezy?
[06:57] <andrewski> !tell Blake_ about patience
[06:57] <nomasteryoda> Blake_, you would have to change the /etc/apt/source.list to point to breezy repos
[06:57] <nomasteryoda> but i would just workout how to get the wifi working
[06:58] <nomasteryoda> dapper is way better once you get the drivers right
[06:58] <nomasteryoda> so simple is the wifi
[06:58] <richee> how do I launch imagemagick
[06:58] <richee> ?
[06:58] <Blake_> i have my old sources.list but i have not net connection, can i use the cd?
[06:59] <gdb> richee: ImageMagick is a suite of utilities, it's not a single program.
[06:59] <nomasteryoda> now that might be quite a trick
[06:59] <nomasteryoda> keep asking
[06:59] <Blake_> ok ill try a little more i guess
[06:59] <atrophic> Dial_tone, xdiff wasn't in the repos, but it lead me to fldiff which works for me, thanks
[06:59] <richee> gdb: So how do I launch this, I want to create thumbnails out of my pictures
[07:00] <Blake_> so whay is this patience stuff you speak of andrew?
[07:00] <gdb> richee: You'd probably want to use mogrify for that.  You'll want to to run it in a directory other than the ones your images are in (or run it on a copy) because it will resize them in place.
[07:00] <faddat> Why would sound work in Amarok, but not in VLC or Totem?
[07:00] <andrewski> !patience
[07:00] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:00] <revilot> anybody know why they dont include beagle with ubuntu bu default
[07:00] <dpn> Why isn't Opera showing up in the official repos
[07:00] <dpn> isn't it supposed to
[07:00] <andrewski> Blake_: hrm... that's actually not what it used to say and i don't like this version.
[07:00] <andrewski> dpn: no, it's not Free.
[07:00] <crimsun> dpn: have you updated and used gnome-app-install (Applications> Add ...) ?
[07:01] <dpn> opera is free
[07:01] <GullyFoyle> opera is not open source
[07:01] <dpn> What do you mean crimsun
[07:01] <dpn> That doesn't mean its not free
[07:01] <faddat> revilot:  I think it's not stable enough
[07:01] <faddat> revilot:  I know it's on the list for Edgy.
[07:01] <crimsun> dpn: have you updated? There's an app-install-data update.
[07:01] <revilot> faddat: ah ok, it looked pretty cool
[07:02] <dpn> Sorry crimsun, no idea what you mean - really new at most of this
[07:02] <faddat> revilot:  It definately is.  You can install it by installing "beagle" in synaptic
[07:02] <dpn> ive done apt-get update
[07:02] <dpn> if thats what you mean
[07:02] <gdb> dpn: "free" and "Free" mean different things in the context of open source software.
[07:02] <crimsun> dpn: sorry, it's app-install-data-commercial.
[07:02] <faddat> revilot:  I use it, it does crash occasionally, but not frequently
[07:02] <revilot> faddat: ya i was just about to do that
[07:03] <andy-> Anyone ever run into this crap while trying to run unreal engine game: Can't find 'ini:Engine.Engine.GameEngine' in configuration file
[07:03] <gdb> dpn: "free" is "free as in gratis" or "without monetary cost."  "Free" is "free as in libre" or "the freedom to do with as you please, including modify the source code and share it with others."
[07:03] <GullyFoyle> dpn: you mean free-as-in-beer
[07:03] <Dial_tone> what does beep do that xmms doesn't. the gui is identical
[07:03] <andrewski> dpn: and by and large, ubuntu only releases Free software.  i'm not sure why opera couldn't be listed in multiverse, however.
[07:04] <dpn> I just remember a Digg article saying it was added to the offical repos
[07:04] <dpn> or something
[07:04] <dpn> May have missread it
[07:04] <andrewski> dpn: you could search packages.ubuntu.com
[07:04] <crimsun> dpn: it's available in a Canonical repo, yes, not in a Ubuntu repo.
[07:05] <maxxx> is there any way i can configure a vanilla kernel to work like the "generic" kernel ubuntu has?
[07:05] <crimsun> [deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main] 
[07:05] <gdb> I don't know the licensing / OSS status of Opera, I'm just pointing out the different meanings of "free" in this context.
[07:05] <[Ex0r] > hmm, wow
[07:05] <maxxx> for example if i included every module and kernel option possible, would it work?
[07:05] <[Ex0r] > when there is no bandwidth left on my network, ubuntu becomes very slow
[07:06] <GullyFoyle> i'm running opera right now
[07:06] <andrewski> maxxx: i don't think ubuntu uses every option, but it'd certainly be close. :-P
[07:06] <GullyFoyle> i used the opera d/l though
[07:06] <maxxx> andrewski, would you advise using every option?
[07:06] <dpn> Yeah, I just downloaded it from their site
[07:06] <GullyFoyle> i think
[07:06] <tamran> hi guys, I have a few questions about ubuntu
[07:06] <andrewski> maxxx: no
[07:06] <GullyFoyle> they have a .deb
[07:06] <dpn> Was just wondering why I couldn't get it through apt-get - now I know ;)
[07:07] <dr34mc0d3r> shorewall questian - i have a 2 nic setup - loc,net zones - on a loc machine i can browse and do anything i want. But I cant browse to a domain web site inside my loc zone by name - just by ip. got any ideas..?
[07:07] <TestDrivenBug> can anyone recommend  me a mysql front-end other than phpmyadmin - i dont want to install apache for that?
[07:07] <andrewski> maxxx: i'm pretty sure there's a way to get the config for the ubuntu kernel, though i don't know it.
[07:07] <tamran> 1. What cd image do I get if I want something more on the "new" stuff, would that be an unstable distro?
[07:07] <GullyFoyle> ihad to use --force-architecture hough cuz i'm on amd64 and they only have i386
[07:07] <maxxx> andrewski: ok thanks i'll look into that
[07:09] <delmar> what is the correct tidy ubuntu way to stop/block a driver from loading from bootup?
[07:09] <vigilante> Is there a link to search Ubuntu repos from a webpage?
[07:09] <L1> What could cause slow graphic motion on a 1.8 GHz P4 with 256 RAM and no swapping monitored
[07:10] <farky> Is there a video capturing piece of software for linux?
[07:10] <timfrost> !packages
[07:10] <ubotu> You can browse and search the packages in Ubuntu in synaptic, adept and online on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[07:10] <dibblego> can I have more than 4 workspaces?
[07:10] <nightshade> I need help installing java on ubuntu, but I don't understand the guide
[07:10] <skavenge> delmar; is it a a module?
[07:10] <delmar> skarface, yep
[07:11] <dibblego> nightshade, just download the binary from Sun and execute it - then set the PATH
[07:11] <delmar> skavenge, yep
[07:11] <skavenge> delmar; add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[07:11] <delmar> skarface, mt
[07:11] <jeff2> I setup a 32-bit dapper chroot as described on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575. whenever I run an X program within the chroot (after using "dchroot -d"), it fails with: "xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :0.0". how can this be fixed?
[07:11] <farky> dibblego: right click the workspaces toolbar and go to preferences
[07:11] <delmar> skavenge, ok. ill try that
[07:11] <farky> Is there a video capturing piece of software for linux?
[07:11] <dibblego> farky, cheers
[07:12] <Shizboom> Anyone know anything about making your background or a part of the background a webpage or aplet of some sort?
[07:12] <dadgumit> back
[07:12] <Cntryboy> my buddy is on irc, is there anyway to lag him off irc? like ping I guess lol
[07:12] <farky> dibblego: hope it helps
[07:12] <farky> Cntryboy: why would you want to do that?
[07:12] <Cntryboy> he did it to me, and won't tell me
[07:12] <Cntryboy> lol
[07:13] <vigilante> thx timfrost , btw are there any additional repos to add for game emulators?  Im looking for mupen64, pcsx2, and others
[07:13] <jeff2> I shouldn't have upgraded from breezy to dapper, audio doesn't work, my touchpad device nodes changed, my X resolution is too high, my chroot environment cannot run X programs..
[07:13] <farky> Cntryboy: this is the Ubuntu Support channel, not the How to kick your buddy off IRC channel
[07:13] <delmar> skavenge, im not sure if this will work but i wanna try it.  I'm having issues getting the system to bootup. it's an Adaptec 2110S controler.  The install runs perfect. when it reboots its broke.  I notice that the only modules loaded once the install is running, is i2o_core and i2o_block.  I think the dpt module is loading and getting in the way
[07:13] <Cntryboy> jeff2, when ur resolution is so high does ur monitor go to sleep?
[07:14] <Cntryboy> farky: no duh, I know what the channel is for, but someone might have known
[07:14] <Cntryboy> I'm using ubuntu btw
[07:14] <skavenge> delmar, it'd be worth a try putting them in blacklist is a simple way that you can change right after if its not the case
[07:14] <jeff2> Cntryboy, no, it just compresses the pixels (looks odd on an LCD screen)
[07:14] <L1> What could cause slow graphic motion under Dapper on a 1.8 GHz P4 with 256 RAM and no swapping?  Knoppix graphics runs at full speed.
[07:14] <farky> CntryBoy: Oh really? Well I don't know how, someone might.
[07:15] <revilot> if a person were to make a seperate partition for / how much space would be appropriate
[07:15] <techmad> revilot: how big is your hdd?
[07:15] <dibblego> Cntryboy, no a CTCP VERSION will not disconnect me from IRC
[07:16] <dadgumit> I totally don't remember the bash being this nice
[07:16] <JuhazTwo> y0 fellas
[07:16] <JuhazTwo> i'm trying to install ubuntu on my new SATA drive
[07:16] <revilot> techmad: 160 Gb
[07:16] <Cntryboy> some guy told me to do it
[07:16] <majd> hey
[07:16] <Cntryboy> it lagge dme
[07:16] <JuhazTwo> the installing part went fine but now grub gives me error 21. i read it means "disk not found"
[07:16] <Cntryboy> lagged me
[07:16] <u221e> Why does is current firefox package so unstable? It's keeps crashing on me.
[07:16] <majd> i'm having trouble sharing files and folders between ubuntu and my imac
[07:16] <Cntryboy> jeff2 told me 2
[07:16] <Cntryboy> flooded me out with the rooms version
[07:16] <Cntryboy> everyone in room rather
[07:17] <JuhazTwo> so...
[07:17] <techmad> revilot: on my 80gig i used 15 for / and 20 for /home and 40 for fat32
[07:17] <dadgumit> anyone know what "tee" command is?
[07:17] <rubso> Hi :)
[07:17] <revilot> techmad: thx
[07:17] <rubso> guys i need help here please
[07:17] <dibblego> dadgumit, tee - read from standard input and write to standard output and files
[07:18] <Cntryboy> how can I make my version reply with my cpu specs ect. not that its fast, but I noticed some had that
[07:18] <Cntryboy> python script?
[07:18] <dadgumit> thanks, i just man'd it getting back into the swing of linux
[07:18] <rubso> when i try to run "xmess" the emulator, it gives me some error messages, like "GLERROR: cannot access OpenGL library libGL.so", could you help me running it?
[07:18] <dibblego> Cntryboy, why don't you ask in an appropriate forum?
[07:18] <JuhazTwo> it appears that grub thinks my SATA drive is hd1
[07:19] <JuhazTwo> i've also got a regular ata drive.
[07:19] <imbrandon> Cntryboy, can i help you ?
[07:19] <nocti> hello
[07:19] <JuhazTwo> anyone got an idea how i should refer to a drive that appears as /dev/sda in linux?
[07:19] <Cntryboy> how can I use a script I guess to make my version reply show my cpu specs?
[07:20] <samuli> has anyone managed to get ati tv-out work like it's supposed?
[07:20] <Cntryboy> using konversation kde, was using xchat and bitchx on gnome, just to lazy to install it
[07:20] <imbrandon> Cntryboy, its VERY inpolite to ctpc someon without permission , please dont do so
[07:20] <vigilante> Anybody know of a Mupen64 ubuntu package?
[07:20] <samuli> I get picture, and all is well expect for that the tv-resolution is too high.
[07:20] <nocti> i can't read my ntfs partition, somebody here gave me a script to autofix my fstab, forgot the link, thanks
[07:20] <Cntryboy> imbrandon: stfu please, some guy told me to do it jeff2, I didn't know it would ctcp everyone in the room.
[07:20] <Cntryboy> if id know I wouldn't have done it
[07:20] <Cntryboy> it flooded me
[07:20] <Cntryboy> known
[07:21] <Cntryboy> imbrandon: comprende?
[07:21] <imbrandon> please adhear to the CoC also, i just ask politely for you not to do so, we like to keep the lang in here PG
[07:21] <darkyoshi372> How do I install a TrueType font?
[07:21] <dadgumit> cross your fingers, rebooting post fglrx install
[07:22] <Cntryboy> imbrandon: i know how the channel works, and I know the rules.. I never said a cuss word. stfu isn't a cuss word look it up in a dictionary
[07:22] <revilot> techmad: do you have a link that talks about partitioning
[07:22] <Cntryboy> imbrandon: and I told u I didn't know what that command did
[07:22] <darkyoshi372> anyone? how to install truetype fonts?
[07:22] <Cntryboy> imbrandon: and I also stated I wouldn't have done it knowing that it would flood me also
[07:23] <dibblego> /ignore Cntryboy
[07:23] <dadgumit> oh brother net dramma
[07:23] <dibblego> oops
[07:23] <Cntryboy> lol
[07:23] <imbrandon> darkyoshi372, the easy way is simply to place them in ~/.fonts and restart your WM
[07:23] <dadgumit> I love you all
[07:23] <delmar> darkyoshi372, if you do apt-cache search truetype  there are a butt load of packages
[07:23] <dadgumit> I am seeing my first log in screen
[07:23] <Cntryboy> I just want to know how to show system specs when someone version you, thats it
[07:23] <dadgumit> WOOT
[07:23] <darkyoshi372> okay, thanks imbrandon and delmar!!
[07:23] <dadgumit> seriously, WOOO HOOO
[07:23] <Cntryboy> <--not here to cause trouble
[07:23] <delmar> darkyoshi372, i would assume apt-get install (one of those)  would help you
[07:24] <nocti> i can't read my ntfs partition, somebody here gave me a script to autofix my fstab, forgot the link, thanks
[07:24] <dadgumit> I have been working onthis fro three days now pardon me sharing my elation
[07:24] <dadgumit> I haven't had an install this hard since fargin college
[07:24] <imbrandon> Cntryboy, i am not either, i simple ask you not to do so again, that is all, please dont start trolling again, i dropped it
[07:24] <dadgumit> :P
[07:24] <samuli> soo.. nobody knows how to set tv-resolution in xorg.conf?
[07:24] <Cntryboy> imbrandon: sure thing
[07:25] <imbrandon> Cntryboy, now what was your problem? i MIGHT can help ;)
[07:25] <imbrandon> heh
[07:25] <imbrandon> now that i'm here lol
[07:26] <techmad> revilot: what kind of link
[07:26] <Cntryboy> after I version everyone, which I did know version each person, but I didn't know it would do whole room. I noticed ppl had system specs in version.. I remember reading a python script to do this, but im not sure with konversation on kubuntu
[07:26] <dadgumit> hey is there a way to change resolutions inside of the gui?
[07:26] <dadgumit> :)
[07:26] <remowilliams> whats the command to search for like all mp3s on the system
[07:27] <dibblego> dadgumit, System->Preferences->Screen Resolution
[07:27] <dadgumit> tnx
[07:27] <dibblego> remowilliams, find / -name *.mp3
[07:27] <imbrandon> ahh you hrm the forums or the #konversation room might be better to ask, i dont know, also to test versioning someon you can rightlcik their name and it wont version the whole room
[07:27] <crova`of`thx> i just installed ubuntu desktop here, and when it is loading the stuffs to start gnome, it just stuck, a black screen stays there, n1 might know what is that?
[07:28] <imbrandon> crova`of`thx, whast the last message you see ?
[07:28] <Cntryboy> imbrandon: i know that, but I'm stoned and he said paste this, I thought he wanted me to do him, i didn't notice it had the room name
[07:28] <Cntryboy> we was talking about resolution in pm
[07:28] <remowilliams> where is the xchat folder
[07:28] <remowilliams> i cant find it
[07:28] <remowilliams> i downloaded somethen and cant find the downloads foldert
[07:28] <crova`of`thx> [imbrandon] : cant remember, let me reboot and see it, can be?
[07:28] <Cntryboy> remowilliams, i cant remember but try .xchat in user dir
[07:28] <revilot> how can i unmount a partition to resize it
[07:28] <delmar> Cntryboy, so you are stoned.. and someone was asking you to "do" them? :P
[07:29] <Cntryboy> u can type that or show hidden
[07:29] <Cntryboy> delmar: yah lol
[07:29] <dion> what do i type in the command prompt to run a .scprit?
[07:29] <remowilliams> type what
[07:29] <remowilliams> to show hidden
[07:29] <remowilliams> ?
[07:29] <samuli> Remowilliams, ~/.xchat/something.. downloads probably.
[07:29] <avis> perhaps the shadows of the net are being manifested in him in his altered state
[07:29] <remowilliams> what do i type to see all folders
[07:29] <delmar> RemoteViewer, ls -la
[07:29] <samuli> remowilliams, ctrl+h to show hidden files.
[07:30] <Cntryboy> remowilliams: what browser u using
[07:30] <Cntryboy> ls -la is command, or from gui ctrl+h
[07:30] <delmar> remowilliams, ls -la
[07:30] <delmar> RemoteViewer, mt
[07:30] <dion> what is the command to run a .script file?
[07:30] <Cntryboy> or just type cd .xchat since ur already in user dir.
[07:30] <remowilliams> it was .xchat 2
[07:30] <remowilliams> er
[07:30] <samuli> it's .xchat2
[07:30] <remowilliams> .xchat2
[07:30] <Cntryboy> ahh ok
[07:30] <samuli> yeah :P
[07:30] <Cntryboy> im not using gnome
[07:31] <Cntryboy> forgot
[07:31] <delmar> dion, from a shell prompt?
[07:31] <Cntryboy> but I knew it might be hidden in user dir
[07:31] <Eleaf> ;p
[07:31] <revilot> how can i unmount a partition to resize it
[07:31] <dion> yes delamr
[07:31] <delmar> dion, firstly the file needs to be executable.  chmod +x filename
[07:31] <delmar> dion, then simply do ./filename.script or whatever its called
[07:31] <remowilliams> there any file sharing clients for linux
[07:31] <Eleaf> What is a good audio conversion utility?
[07:31] <Eleaf> ;p
[07:32] <delmar> dion, and home like hell it doesn't go on the rampage and delete files or anything lame
[07:32] <delmar> dion, hope*
[07:32] <dion> great thanks for your help
[07:32] <Eleaf> remowilliams, like peer to peer?  There is limewire and bittorrent..
[07:32] <dion> lol well i hope, if so its a new install
[07:32] <Cntryboy> brb fingers stick :P
[07:32] <Cntryboy> sticky
[07:32] <delmar> dion, what is the script?
[07:32] <dion> I'm just running an insatll script for acrobat reader
[07:32] <remowilliams> u can use limewire on linux o ok
[07:33] <samuli> dion, isn't acrobat in the repositories?
[07:33] <crova`of`thx> imbrandon something like root logs, cant know for sure, cause it is fast, but all things are OK, only the PCMCIA services isnt
[07:33] <n00dles> hello
[07:33] <n00dles> i am havin trouble installin ubuntu
[07:33] <Whyvas> hi
[07:33] <dion> I would have no idea, Linux is new to me as of today
[07:33] <delmar> dion, yeah you shouldnt need to install anything manually like that
[07:33] <dion> So I'm just no picking up things
[07:33] <provo> i just installed ubuntu but it never asked to create a username/passwd. how do I login?
[07:34] <remowilliams> how do i use the rpm
[07:34] <imbrandon> crova`of`thx, can you ctl+alt+f1 and get toa terminal when its at the black screen ?>
[07:34] <remowilliams> in ubuntu
[07:34] <remowilliams> ?
[07:34] <delmar> dion, ubuntu has all those packages
[07:34] <dibblego> provo, it should have during install
[07:34] <samuli> dion, try sudo apt-get install acrobat or try search it with apt-cache search acrobat
[07:34] <imbrandon> remowilliams, you use deb in ubuntu if at all possible not rpm
[07:34] <n00dles> before i had trouble because the install used to mess up w. the live cd, but now the partition is messin up
[07:34] <crova`of`thx> imbrandon i will try that, if i can, what should i see, so i can check and reboot only one time
[07:34] <provo> dibb: i swear it didn't. I re-installed over a previous copy, but formatted beforehand
[07:34] <remowilliams> well i only see a rpm er nm found this other thing
[07:34] <dion> would using the synaptic package manager do the same function?
[07:34] <n00dles> i know how u do the partition for fedora but nor for ubuntu
[07:35] <samuli> dion, yes, It's a graphical fronted to apt-get
[07:35] <imbrandon> crova`of`thx, it will give you a terminal login so you can login and debig\
[07:35] <dibblego> provo, I've never seen Ubuntu not ask for a username and password during install
[07:35] <imbrandon> debug*
[07:35] <delmar> dion, different but give you the same or a better.. result
[07:35] <Whyvas> this channel is quite funny at times, it's like the blind leading the blind with a few random people with 20/20
[07:35] <crova`of`thx> imbrandon ok, i will check
[07:35] <crova`of`thx> brb
[07:35] <blind> yeah, i lead everyone.
[07:35] <dibblego> Whyvas, like most freenode channels
[07:35] <imbrandon> Whyvas, lol yea
[07:35] <linopil> hi uname -r   > 2.6.15-25-386 , have isapnp and uncommentend in /etc/isapnp.conf one set for vibra16
[07:35] <Whyvas> I JUST IN?ST
[07:36] <dadgumit> how do i drop out of the gui?
[07:36] <linopil> still no sound  is it alsa is it kernetl?
[07:36] <delmar> dion, i recommend you install "automatix"
[07:36] <Whyvas> ALLED UBUNBTU HOW CAN I HACK STUFF??Q?Q?Q?Q
[07:36] <Whyvas> LOALCLAELFL!L!#@R$!ROGFJWE
[07:36] <delmar> dion, then select acrobat reader and other cool stuff
[07:36] <n00dles> so any1 know hot to fix a partition prob?
[07:36] <Whyvas> sorry
[07:36] <imbrandon> dadgumit, ctl+alt+f1
[07:36] <dadgumit> tnx
[07:36] <dion> automatix being a package?
[07:36] <samuli> Whyvas, you stopped being funny now.
[07:36] <Eleaf> Whyvas, I don't think so
[07:36] <delmar> dion, using the "automatix" installer. it installs lots of cool stuff
[07:36] <imbrandon> Whyvas, ok ok stop please, take it to -offtopic
[07:36] <Eleaf> no imbrandon no..
[07:36] <linopil> Whyvas better not capitals
[07:36] <Eleaf> don't take it to offtopic..
[07:36] <Eleaf> lol
[07:36] <imbrandon> lol
[07:37] <delmar> dion, yeah automatix is a package, which is really just another installer to take care of the installation of lots of cool stuff
[07:37] <Eleaf> offtopic is for greatness
[07:37] <delmar> dion, apt-get install automatix
[07:37] <imbrandon> well here is for support ;)
[07:37] <delmar> dion, then run automatix from the menu, tag up all the bits you want.
[07:37] <Eleaf> and offtopic is for wonder.. that wasn't wonder..
[07:37] <Eleaf> lol
[07:37] <imbrandon> !automatix
[07:37] <remowilliams> anyone know any way i can get limewire on ubuntu
[07:37] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[07:37] <remowilliams> i cant find nothen but a rpm
[07:37] <linopil> isapnp sound  anyone?
[07:37] <Eleaf> remowilliams, lol..
[07:37] <imbrandon> remowilliams, for what ?
[07:38] <Eleaf> remowilliams, check the ubuntu wiki maybe
[07:38] <delmar> Anyone here use Wengo Phone? I think Wengo are a bunch of conartist mofo's taking the OpenSource community for a BIG ride.
[07:38] <imbrandon> remowilliams, try frostwire ... follow this link from ubotu
[07:38] <imbrandon> !frostwire
[07:38] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[07:38] <dion> Delmar, when trying to run the apt-get install automatix command I get a message that says   " Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:38] <dion> "
[07:38] <n00dles> i am havin trouble installin ubuntu, before i had trouble because the install used to mess up w. the live cd, but now the partition is messin up, i know how u do the partition for fedora but nor for ubuntu
[07:38] <crova`of`thx> imbrandon no, cannot get a terminal
[07:38] <dion> whatwould that relate too?
[07:39] <delmar> dion, you have the package manager open?
[07:39] <crova`of`thx> and the last thing i see is System Kernel Log OK
[07:39] <delmar> dion, usually that means.. some other package manager is running
[07:39] <dion> damn i feel ignorant
[07:39] <imbrandon> crova`of`thx, what about in safemode ? you have to get somewhere we can debug
[07:39] <dion> lol
[07:39] <delmar> dion, u will get there man
[07:39] <dion> you tha man
[07:39] <dion> thanks
[07:40] <farky> Anyone know why I am not getting any sound on youtube and other sites?
[07:40] <crova`of`thx> [imbrandon] : ill try safemode, brb :)
[07:40] <delmar> dion, i have had by head up the ass of Linux since 1995, and i still know sweet FA about lots of stuff
[07:40] <Paradoxx> delmar: what made you start using it so early?
[07:40] <delmar> dion, usually the basic " in my face " stuff gets me more than some of the more complicated back end stuff. lol.
[07:40] <farky> Anyone know why I am not getting any sound on youtube and other sites?
[07:40] <Cntryboy> okay back
[07:40] <imbrandon> delmar, language please
[07:41] <timfrost> dion, did you remember to run apt-get with sudo?
[07:41] <dion> lol, Well at the point that I'm at its all getting to me
[07:41] <dion> Couldn't find package automatix
[07:41] <dion> yes i sudo -i earlier
[07:41] <imbrandon> dion
[07:41] <imbrandon> !automatic
[07:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about automatic
[07:41] <dion> so i'm root
[07:41] <imbrandon> !automatix
[07:41] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[07:41] <delmar> Paradoxx, i was doing some stuff for an ISP back then, and started messing around with linux routers ... did some floppy image stuff .. that sorta thing
[07:42] <delmar> Paradoxx, then I found it was a great idea to have a linux router running our dialup connection.. way better than WinGate :P.
[07:42] <Paradoxx> delmar: hehe, lol...cool
[07:42] <rubso> when i try to run "xmess" the emulator, it gives me some error messages, like "GLERROR: cannot access OpenGL library libGL.so", could you help me running it?
[07:42] <imbrandon> delmar, lol yea i started about that same time for about the same reason ;)
[07:42] <dion> imbrandon, what are you saying?
[07:42] <Cntryboy> rubso: u got vid card drivers?
[07:43] <Cntryboy> open gl?
[07:43] <revilot> is there a way i can make a new partition and put my home folder in it.  right now i have everything on one partition
[07:43] <Paradoxx> imbrandon: grr, sucks to b me, I just started useing my first computer around that time
[07:43] <rubso> Cntryboy: yeah, i installed nvidia driver from apt-get
[07:43] <delmar> imbrandon, yep. it was all fun.. but this was back in the day when Slackware was the distro of choice.. and anything you did was .. download and compile from source... then spend weeks trying to figure out why stuff didnt work and waht dependancies were missing
[07:43] <Cntryboy> paradoxx: dont feel bad ive used linux on and off for 2 weeks now lol
[07:43] <Blake_> hello again, ok little break ready to try again, just upgraged to dapper and although, my wireless card and driver(ndiswraper) are present it wont find any accespoints, using acx111 card, i think someone mentioned something about the firmware, thanks, im lost
[07:43] <Paradoxx> imbrandon: well, no.... i had been useing it for a while
[07:43] <delmar> thank god for the package manager and dependancy database deal.
[07:43] <ohh_henri> how do you install abiword w/ grammer check
[07:44] <delmar> dion, what version of ubuntu u have?
[07:44] <hybrid> ohh_henri: use synaptic
[07:44] <Paradoxx> Cntryboy: lol... i been useing it a year now, as main desktop.... use to play around with it b4 that
[07:44] <imbrandon> rubso, try "sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-swrast"
[07:44] <delmar> dion, cuz automatix is available in Dapper by default
[07:44] <Eleaf> imbrandon, I'm having trouble finding a good audio converter....
[07:44] <L1> What would cause slow motion graphics under Dapper on a 1.8GHz P4 with 256 G Ram?  Under Knoppix, motion graphics runs OK.
[07:44] <Eleaf> imbrandon, I just need to go from mp3 to wav... lol
[07:44] <delmar> dion, I wonder if I turned on some extra package stuff tho.. I dont remember
[07:44] <imbrandon> Eleaf, audacity
[07:44] <imbrandon> ;)
[07:44] <dion> hmm the current one I'd belive, I downloaded the ubuntu  ISO 3 days ago
[07:44] <hybrid> Eleaf: use audacity
[07:44] <Eleaf> imbrandon, I already use audacity
[07:44] <dion> drapper
[07:44] <Eleaf> hybrid, I already do..
[07:44] <ohh_henri> delmar I tried that dosnt get grammer check
[07:44] <Eleaf> it's too big for this computer though
[07:45] <Eleaf> lol
[07:45] <rubso> imbrandon, when i try to install that, it says you need to remove ubunt-desktop package, etc etc.. and i think that is dangerous, right?
[07:45] <Cntryboy> head is heavy lol can't keep up
[07:45] <Eleaf> and is mediocre in that sense...
[07:45] <delmar> ohh_henri, huh?
[07:45] <imbrandon> rubso, yea thats dangerous
[07:45] <Eleaf> only supports about 6 formats
[07:45] <archetypo> L1 crap 2d drivers
[07:45] <Cntryboy> rubso: u may try to get libgl.so from apt-get
[07:45] <imbrandon> Eleaf, hrmm
[07:45] <Eleaf> and is 10 megabytes.. that will take 60 minutes on this dsl.. (not really but... still)
[07:45] <imbrandon> Cntryboy, libgl1-mesa-swrast is what provides libgl.so
[07:45] <imbrandon> hrm
[07:45] <rubso> Cntryboy: its in " libgl1-mesa-swrast", but i can not install it because its dangerous.
[07:46] <ohh_henri> yaa abiword has grammer check
[07:46] <ohh_henri> but how you get it
[07:46] <delmar> dion, open the synaptic package manager gui thingie.. that I never use. lol. ill open mine.. see where the settings are u might need to change. just a sec
[07:46] <Eleaf> imbrandon, might as well use audacity ;p.
[07:46] <Eleaf> imbrandon, hybrid do you use any audio apps?
[07:46] <hybrid> Eleaf: i use audacity and garageband
[07:46] <ohh_henri> I know I tried it doset install grammer check
[07:46] <samuli> is it any good if someone sent rubso the libgl.so?
[07:46] <Eleaf> oh..
[07:46] <imbrandon> Eleaf, hybrid is the leet audio editor for our podcast ;)
[07:46] <dion> awesome
[07:46] <Paradoxx> hybrid: garbadeband?
[07:47] <Paradoxx> !garbageband
[07:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about garbageband
[07:47] <hybrid> Paradoxx: OSX program
[07:47] <Cntryboy> rubso: can u play other open gl games?
[07:47] <dion> I'm doing so now
[07:47] <rubso> Cntryboy: no.
[07:47] <hybrid> audacity is my favorite
[07:47] <delmar> dion, ok settings, and repositories.
[07:47] <imbrandon> rubso, what video casrd do you have ?
[07:47] <L1> archetypo,  How to fix?
[07:47] <Cntryboy> so can u play any 3d games at all?
[07:47] <Blake_> just upgraged to dapper and although, my wireless card and driver(ndiswraper) are present it wont find any accespoints, using acx111 card, i think someone mentioned something about the firmware, thanks, im lost
[07:47] <delmar> dion, you might need to tag some extra stuff in there perhaps?
[07:47] <Eleaf> I use audacity, ardour, lmms, soundtracker, rosegarden, terminatorX imbrandon | hybrid .
[07:47] <rubso> imbrandon: nvidia geforce fx 5200 128MB
[07:47] <Cntryboy> rudso: type glxgears in terminal
[07:47] <Eleaf> I can't decide which to use to remix this song though
[07:47] <Eleaf> lol
[07:48] <Eleaf> audacity seems too crude for true loop-based sampling
[07:48] <hybrid> Eleaf: what are you trying to do?
[07:48] <imbrandon> rubso, have you "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" yet ?
[07:48] <Shizboom> Anyone know anything about making your background or a part of the background a webpage or aplet of some sort?
[07:48] <rubso> Cntryboy: it shows 3 gears in graphx.
[07:48] <hybrid> ffmpeg and mencoder can be nice
[07:48] <rubso> imbrandon: yes, and its installed already
[07:48] <Cntryboy> rubso: smooth or jerky as shit?
[07:48] <Eleaf> lmms is more synthy and isn't very good with workiing with actual samples
[07:48] <hybrid> Shizboom: make it embedded
[07:48] <Cntryboy> excuse my language
[07:48] <rubso> Cntryboy: its sooo smooth
[07:48] <Eleaf> hybrid, hm?
[07:48] <samuli> there aren't any good mastering suites, multi-trackers or sequencers for linux :/
[07:48] <imbrandon> rubso, do you see the nvidia logo when starting up X ?
[07:48] <hybrid> Eleaf: ffmpeg and mencoder can be nice
[07:48] <rubso> imbrandon: yes.
[07:48] <L1> archetypo,  System has Cyberblade video card?
[07:48] <samuli> Eleaf, hod do you like ardour?
[07:49] <techmad> rubso: do you have xgl installed?
[07:49] <imbrandon> samuli, audacity
[07:49] <samuli> how
[07:49] <rubso> techmad: xgl, no
[07:49] <Eleaf> samuli, it would be great, except it pretty much relies off of jack
[07:49] <samuli> imbrandon, it's not good, like in windows good.
[07:49] <hybrid> imbrandon: swear by audacity :)
[07:49] <Eleaf> jack really doesn't work well for me for some reason
[07:49] <Eleaf> lol
[07:49] <lonegeek> Can anyone tell me why this doesnt work for a windows share  in my fstab   //192.168.1.104/TV /media/TV    smbfs  uid=1000  0    0
[07:49] <Eleaf> oh I forgot hydrogen
[07:49] <imbrandon> rubso, if you see the nvidia logo on X startup you SHOULD have opengl working properly
[07:49] <ohh_henri> is there way way 2 get grammer check in ubuntu
[07:49] <Cntryboy> rubso: what imbrandon said
[07:49] <samuli> Eleaf, is ardour officially released?
[07:49] <delmar> dion, i'm bad and don't use the GUI.. I edit /etc/apt/sources.list by hand  ...so I'm not sure what u do in there.. i think u need to enable universe and multiverse and such, for the cool toys.
[07:49] <Eleaf> samuli, uhh.. what do you mean?
[07:50] <Eleaf> samuli, it's been out for a long bit
[07:50] <dibblego> ohh_henri, perhaps you spelt in incorrectly to apt-cache - it is spelt "grammar"
[07:50] <samuli> Eleaf, isn't it beta?
[07:50] <rubso> Cntryboy: then why i can't run this emulator, and says there is no libGL, i tried to "locate" the libGL, but i didn't find it.
[07:50] <Blake_> i like orange, whats your favourite color?
[07:50] <Shizboom> hybrid - what do you mean embedded?
[07:50] <delmar> anyone else know the Synaptic Package Manager setup better than me feel free to jump in and tell dion what to do.
[07:50] <Eleaf> I have no idea, I don't pay attention to that samuli lol
[07:50] <imbrandon> samuli, Windows good for audio editing ? now thats a first, i might have thought osx but never windows ;)
[07:50] <Cntryboy> rubso: although I have a geforce fx5500 128 and I couldn't use the nvidia-glx drivers although that is what nvidia suggested for my card.. I installed nvidia-glx-legacy and everything works grade A
[07:50] <HackerX> *^*^* Hey, Im trying to install my logitech quickcam but i keep getting alot of errors *^*^*
[07:50] <dion> delmar, I wish I was able to do that
[07:50] <hybrid> Shizboom: if you make the applet embedded to the webpage it may work
[07:50] <Eleaf> imbrandon, cubaseeeeeeeeee
[07:50] <techmad> dion: not sure of what you are doing but check this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[07:50] <Eleaf> loops of fruity.
[07:50] <dion> I imagine I can figure this one out, I think I'll ask for help on one of the toughies
[07:50] <samuli> imbrandon, there's lots of good apps for windows and yes, for os x too.
[07:50] <delmar> dion, ok hang on ill paste my sources.list file to pastebin
[07:51] <Blake_> does anyone else like orange?
[07:51] <bsdirl> audacity is kewl for some stuff.
[07:51] <rubso> Cntryboy: are you serious?
[07:51] <rubso> !
[07:51] <Cntryboy> rubso: dead serious
[07:51] <hybrid> audacity and garageband
[07:51] <imbrandon> afk back in a few min's
[07:51] <techmad> vodka + oj = win
[07:51] <Shizboom> hybrid - i have no clue how to do that, where do i get an applet?
[07:51] <rubso> Cntryboy: then i should remove the -glx one ?
[07:51] <hybrid> Shizboom: usually you write one
[07:52] <bsdirl> cognac + rootbeer = ownage
[07:52] <rubso> Cntryboy: btw, that emulator needs "libGL.so" when i located it, in my ubuntu it says "libGL.so.1" should i rename it ?
[07:52] <Cntryboy> rubso: I'm not telling you to do that lol, just stating thats what worked for me
[07:52] <samuli> hmm.. is it saturday night there?
[07:52] <samuli> here it's sunday morning :
[07:52] <delmar> dion, ok .. mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.original
[07:52] <rubso> Cntryboy: i'll try to rename it :P
[07:52] <Shizboom> hybrid - you have any links to get me started? i'm not even sure what to look for to get a clue of what to do
[07:52] <dion> delmar, lol what exactly is that?
[07:53] <delmar> dion, then head to http://pastebin.ca/82986  and copy that, and slap that into a new file /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:53] <hybrid> Shizboom: prolly learn java or php
[07:53] <techmad> dion did you check that link that i pasted?
[07:53] <delmar> dion then do apt-get update
[07:53] <dibblego> rubso, ln -s it, I've had similar issues with the nvidia driver
[07:53] <delmar> dion then see if you can do  apt-get install automatix
[07:53] <rubso> dibblego: you mean "ln -s libGL.so.1 libGL.so, like that?
[07:53] <Cntryboy> rubso: I didn't rename mine, im just saying using legacy drivers worked for me
[07:53] <delmar> dion, this is all from command line (root assumed)
[07:54] <dibblego> rubso, something like that
[07:54] <hybrid> bbiab
[07:54] <delmar> dion, put "dudo" in front of any thing u do if u are not root.
[07:54] <delmar> dion, "sudo" even
[07:54] <delmar> silly fingers
[07:54] <dion> k lemme get after it and see what turns out.
[07:54] <samuli> duduo :)
[07:54] <rubso> dibblego: ok
[07:54] <samuli> blah.
[07:54] <delmar> hehe
[07:55] <OrgulloKmoore> umm...I need help
[07:55] <OrgulloKmoore> could I have possilby deleted root?
[07:55] <linopil> how do I make UBUNTU at least detect CTL0041 VIBRA  like fedora did although fedora did not configure it isapnp.conf needed for this ?
[07:55] <aunes> if I ^z in vim, how do I get back to it?
[07:55] <linopil> is kudzu used here ?
[07:55] <samuli> OrgulloKmoore, that'd mean you have deleted everything on that partition.
[07:55] <linopil> !kudzu
[07:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about kudzu
[07:55] <OrgulloKmoore> let me explain...I reset roots password, and during the same session, I had some problems, the computer froze, and I restarted
[07:56] <dadgumit> nub question number 34837747, how can i get a terminal window in ubuntu
[07:56] <dadgumit> ?
[07:56] <OrgulloKmoore> now, I can't sudo anything
[07:56] <dadgumit> please?
[07:56] <OrgulloKmoore> kyle@kyle:~$ sudo kontrol
[07:56] <OrgulloKmoore> sudo: unable to lookup kyle.example.com via gethostbyname()
[07:56] <dibblego> dadgumit, Applications->Accessories
[07:56] <techmad> dadgumit: ^^
[07:56] <linopil> ALT-F2 -gnome-ter and enter dadgumit
[07:56] <OrgulloKmoore> and when I logged on, it said it couldn't find themes in /usr/kde/XXX/themes
[07:56] <aunes> dadgumit: You should also right click on the icon and add it to your panel (or to a shortcut key)
[07:56] <OrgulloKmoore> I don't recall exactly
[07:56] <aunes> if I ^z in vim, how do I get back into the vim session?
[07:56] <samuli> OrgulloKmoore, if nothing helps, reboot with recovery mode.
[07:57] <OrgulloKmoore> samuli> how is that done?
[07:57] <linopil> techmad what is ^^
[07:57] <OrgulloKmoore> and what will it do...
[07:57] <samuli> OrgulloKmoore, You have grub installed right?
[07:57] <OrgulloKmoore> samuli> That's correct
[07:57] <techmad> linopil: nothing the other dude typed it faster than i did so i just pointed up to what he said
[07:58] <kuzmaster> hello all, mi back
[07:58] <samuli> it should give you an option in the beginning by pressing esc at the count down.
[07:58] <kuzmaster> im back**
[07:58] <linopil> oh
[07:58] <timfrost> aunes, "fg" will bring a suspended task back to the foreground
[07:58] <aunes> timfrost: Wonderful. thanks.
[07:58] <OrgulloKmoore> ah, samuli, I believe it does
[07:58] <kuzmaster> polpak, u still there?
[07:58] <kuzmaster> dart
[07:59] <kuzmaster> drat**
[07:59] <dadgumit> thanks
[07:59] <linopil> btw techmad any idea howto make isapnp vibra 16 sound  in linux, sounds OK in windows
[07:59] <Awesome-o2000> something about watching mplayer over an ssh tunnel w the server using ndiswrapper just freezes the feces out of my box
[07:59] <techmad> linopil: no idea :(
[07:59] <dion> how do i creat a new file from the command line?
[08:00] <Dial_tone> touch file
[08:00] <tritium> dion: touch <filename> will create an empty file
[08:00] <kuzmaster> is anyone still here from when i asked for help about my wireless connectino
[08:00] <ic56> dion: what do you want to put in the file?
[08:00] <linopil> sadly windows has still  done betterwork  about hardware
[08:00] <techmad> linopil: im no good with getting sound working even on my own laptop i can even get sound above a whisper
[08:00] <linopil> linux stays too techie
[08:00] <samuli> techmad, with headphones?
[08:00] <Awal> ok so I have ftp set up, but I want to add "links" to the home folder, how do I do that?
[08:01] <Awal> links to other folders
[08:01] <techmad> samuli: nope just the onboard speakers my headphones work fine :P
[08:01] <linopil> samuli not 2 the point
[08:01] <dion> I'm going to copy and paste a source list?
[08:01] <delmar> damn it. this is such a load of crap. GRRRR.   what the hell is wrong with Dapper and Adaptec SCSI I2O Raid cards. !!!!.  They just do not work !
[08:01] <samuli> linopil, well, there's quite a lot of different headphones, and not all efficient enough to make a sound :)
[08:02] <delmar> There has got to be a solution for this "device already claimed" bootup failure.
[08:02] <techmad> i <3 my shure inner earphones
[08:02] <samuli> techmad, E2?
[08:02] <ic56> dion: ok, then use cat.  like so:  cat > mynewfile
[08:03] <techmad> they are the 3rd model up dont remember the names
[08:03] <ic56> dion: and then paste into that window.  Finally, press control-D at teh beginning of a new line
[08:03] <dadgumit> how about this one: i have xorg.conf showing 1680x1050 as one of my resolutions, but not selectable under system->prefs->screen resolution, any ideas?
[08:03] <kuzmaster> well anyway, i cant get my wireless connection to work. It worked out of the box for kubuntu 6.06, but not for ubuntu 6.06. i have tried setting it to dhcp, static, i have tried "sudo iwconfig ra0 essid ANY" but that diddnt work.
[08:03] <ic56> dion: the ctl-D is the end-of-file marker in unix, like ctl-Z is in Windows.
[08:03] <Cntryboy> rubso: ever get it working
[08:03] <Cntryboy> rubso: sorry dozed off
[08:03] <samuli> techmad, ok. Shure makes good in-ear phones though.
[08:03] <techmad> yea
[08:04] <dion> awesome thanks ic56
[08:04] <ic56> dion: yw!
[08:04] <kuzmaster> if you want my /ect/network/interface, lspci output and psmod for each distro, just ask cos i already have them in paste bim
[08:04] <dadgumit> any ideas?
[08:04] <ddonky> so... how do I join two files, for instance: video.avi and video2.avi and make them into one file?
[08:04] <techmad> samuli: they are the e4c
[08:04] <samuli> techmad, oh. They're nice.
[08:05] <st_iron> hi
[08:05] <rubso> Cntryboy: lol, i installed "fceu" Nintendo Entertainment system emulator.
[08:05] <kuzmaster> any help would be greatly appreacated becuase i really need my wireless connection to work
[08:05] <archetypo> so i just mounted 3 disks....this is weird: one shows up when i launch file browser as 150GB Volume.  the other's don't but they are mounted on the disk where i mounted them.  so, how do i get all of them to show up like "floppy" "cd-rom" "filesystem" when i launch the file browser?
[08:05] <rubso> Cntryboy: its working and its better than "xmess"
[08:05] <techmad> samuli: yea i was going to get the 5c but i couldnt justify the extra 200$
[08:06] <kuzmaster> \
[08:06] <kuzmaster> help anyone?
[08:06] <remowilliams> CHAwKTaW
[08:06] <remowilliams> :o
[08:07] <techmad> kuzmaster you still couldnt get it
[08:07] <techmad> kuzmaster: what kind was it?
[08:07] <kuzmaster> its a dlink
[08:07] <kuzmaster> RaLink
[08:07] <remowilliams> whats that thing iv saw on some peoples
[08:07] <remowilliams> desktops
[08:07] <remowilliams> with the moon and stuff
[08:07] <remowilliams> etc
[08:07] <harmless> hi everyone
[08:07] <harmless> has anyone set up LIRC?
[08:08] <OrgulloKmoore> I was able to reboot in recovery mode, it gave me a shell...at which point I had no clue what to do
[08:08] <kuzmaster> techmad, heres the stuff for ubuntu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17599
[08:08] <OrgulloKmoore> and now I am in the same situation
[08:08] <kuzmaster> and for kubuntu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17595
[08:08] <harmless> i'm trying to build the lirc-modules-source, but the README doesn't make sense
[08:08] <harmless> i guess it wants me to have a linux source package installed, so i got that
[08:08] <kuzmaster> techmad, and for kubuntu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17595
[08:08] <dadgumit> anyone got any ideas on this? I have a xorg.conf that has teh resolution I want in it, but doesn't show up in the gui resolution selecter
[08:08] <harmless> but it then asks me all the configuration questions - how do i tell it to just use the ubuntu kernel's choices?
[08:09] <slowz3r> hey
[08:09] <ideogram> what program do I use to play my CD?
[08:09] <slowz3r> think someone can help me out real quick
[08:09] <kuzmaster> ideogram, amrok?
[08:10] <techmad> kuzmaster: i dunno :(
[08:10] <samuli> techmad, hehe. Phones can be expensive :) I'm considering ordering Omega 2's from Japan.
[08:10] <kuzmaster> techmad, hmmmmmm
[08:10] <tritium> dadgumit: check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for error messages
[08:10] <techmad> samuli: i read about them from what people said they were good
[08:10] <Cntryboy> rubso: cool, sorry dozed off again
[08:10] <orge> is there anyway to make 'xterm' transparent?
[08:10] <kuzmaster> can any one else help me?
[08:10] <dadgumit> tritium: will do
[08:10] <orge> or you have to be on fluxbox?
[08:10] <HackerX> (*~( Hey, Im getting this error when i try to move a file in the terminal mv: missing destination file operand after `/home/hackerx/spca5xx-20051212.tar.gz' What am i doing wrong i used mv ~/spca5xx-20051212.tar.gz any ideas???
[08:11] <ideogram> Do I have to install amrok?
[08:11] <slowz3r> For some reason i cant get ubuntu to boot from CD..i tried the Bootimage on a floppy too and that still doesnt work..any ideas....
[08:11] <ideogram> Is there a default installed CD player?
[08:11] <samuli> techmad, I've heard them, and they are. I'm just buying the headphones though, so it isn't WAY expensive. and they're "cheap" in Japan.
[08:11] <Dial_tone> whats the error
[08:11] <rubso> Cntryboy: thank you very much for your help :)
[08:11] <Cntryboy> dadgumit: try to reconfigure x: type dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then check the resoloutions you want in the box? you may try to manually edit the xorg.conf
[08:11] <kuzmaster> ideogram, ohhhh, sorry, it mighten be on there for ubuntu
[08:11] <rubso> bye bye
[08:11] <Cntryboy> rubso: cya
[08:11] <kuzmaster> ideogram, i was thinking about kubuntu
[08:12] <slowz3r> ...
[08:12] <techmad> samuli: how much cheaper?
[08:12] <OrgulloKmoore> This is just insane...
[08:12] <dadgumit> Cntryboy, yeah i was goin gto reconfigure and just leave out the other res and see how it goes
[08:12] <EdLin> ideogram: Ubuntu uses sound juicer as both a CD player and ripper
[08:12] <ideogram> what do I type to invoke it from the command line
[08:12] <Cntryboy> dadgumit: does xserver list ur resolution?
[08:12] <OrgulloKmoore> my screen is also hyperactive...when it all doesn't fit in the same screen, and I bounce the mouse off one border of the screen, it starts bouncing around...
[08:12] <Cntryboy> xorg.conf rather
[08:12] <OrgulloKmoore> and I have to restart the computer to get it to stop
[08:13] <OrgulloKmoore> still can't sudo
[08:13] <maatttt> Hi, I've just wiped windoes and installed ubuntu, so far so good, but no sound.  can any one help ?
[08:13] <EdLin> ideogram: you don't need to, it automatically starts when you put in a CD, and it's in the menu.
[08:13] <OrgulloKmoore> screen resolution still way too large
[08:13] <samuli> techmad, about half the price compared to what they cost here.
[08:13] <OrgulloKmoore> still get the theme error at startup...
[08:13] <ideogram> I'm not running the GNOME desktop
[08:13] <techmad> samuli: wow
[08:13] <OrgulloKmoore> is there anything like Microsoft's System Restore in Ubuntu?
[08:14] <st_iron> i have to connect an other machine's tty1 over ssh, is it possible?
[08:14] <kuzmaster> ideogram, are you just in shell?
[08:14] <slowz3r> Anyone here open for questions..lol..any help will be appreciated
[08:14] <ideogram> I am running X and a windowmanager
[08:14] <samuli> techmad, If you live in US check www.audiocubes.com. I think they deliver to US with good prices.
[08:14] <kuzmaster>  ohhh ,ok
[08:14] <tritium> slowz3r: just ask your question
[08:14] <EdLin> ideogram: sound-juicer
[08:14] <samuli> techmad, Audio-Technica, Stax etc.
[08:15] <techmad> samuli: Thanks for the link :) ill check it out
[08:15] <ideogram> ah very nice, thank you
[08:15] <ddonky>  cat video.avi video2.avi >wholevideo.avi
[08:15] <dion> So in my device manger, is it normal for it to display UNKNOWN as the processor?
[08:15] <Tonren> NYAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!  I FORGOT TO BACKUP MY .vimrc!!!!!
[08:15] <OrgulloKmoore> I have no idea what I did nor what I should do
[08:15] <HackerX> ~@~ How do i unlock a folder from the terminal
[08:16] <slowz3r> Ok..for some reason i cant get Ubuntu to boot from the cd.. i tried sbootmgr.dsk too and when i do that and i select the CD drive i get a "Cd error"  any help pleas
[08:16] <Lynoure> Tonren: We feel your pain
[08:16] <Dial_tone> ddonky: that works?
[08:16] <OrgulloKmoore> HackerX> chmod
[08:16] <techmad> OrgulloLmoore: well what were you doing when "it" happened
[08:16] <Tonren> Lynoure: All I needed was someone to commiserate with.  all of my awesome stuff... g.. gone..
[08:16] <Cntryboy> orgullokmoore: sorry man i don't know what to tell ya, sometimes my mouse bounces off walls when i first start up but only for a sec/two
[08:16] <tsume> Lynoure: only because he's using Vim and not emacs ;)
[08:16] <ic56> HackerX: define "unlock" a file.  Do you know what's preventing you from accessing it?
[08:17] <boxahy> wtf. why isnt xchat on my ububtu.
[08:17] <Tonren> tsume: emacs made like NO SENSE.  gvim showed me the meaning of life.
[08:17] <OrgulloKmoore> techmad> I had about 20 window open...I was programming. Before, in the same session, I reset my root's password, as well as a lot of other configuration (I don't turn off my computer very often)
[08:17] <Awesome-o2000> I seem to be having a better time with ndiswrapper and streaming video using the 386 kernel vs the k7. as long as it doesnt freeze Im satisfied
[08:17] <bloody_kenny> hi
[08:17] <tsume> Tonren: gvim? you're kidding me :)
[08:17] <tsume> Tonren: I use emacs and vim in gnome-terminal
[08:17] <Awesome-o2000> I really dont care about optimization on that system vs stability and the ability to stream video over the wireless
[08:17] <tsume> or urxvt
[08:17] <Tonren> tsume: It depends on my mood.  Sometimes I like gvim, sometimes I like vim.
[08:18] <slowz3r> Ok..for some reason i cant get Ubuntu to boot from the cd.. i tried sbootmgr.dsk too and when i do that and i select the CD drive i get a "Cd error"  any help
[08:18] <techmad> OrgulloKmoore: did you try the recovery console option when you boot into grub?
[08:18] <HackerX> Ok how do i use Chmod to unlock a folder
[08:18] <HackerX> ?
[08:18] <EdLin> boxahy: xchat isn't installed by default anymore.
[08:18] <samuli> boxahy, dapper doesn't come with it for some reason. It's stupid, I know.
[08:18] <bloody_kenny> can i have some halp
[08:18] <Tonren> slowz3r: Did you check the CD's integrity?
[08:18] <techmad> HackerX? do you want owner ship of the folder or just read/write access?
[08:18] <boxahy> that is stupid man. lol
[08:18] <Lynoure> tsume: Actually, I don't take part in the editor wars :) I'm on a neutral zone.
[08:18] <OrgulloKmoore> techmad> it gives me a shell. I don't know what to do there...
[08:18] <Tonren> tsume: I like gvim because it doesn't clutter my gnome-terminal.  "code goes in gvim, shell goes in terminal"
[08:18] <EdLin> boxahy: well, you can use gaim, which is, with IRC. Though it's not a great IRC program
[08:18] <techmad> OrgulloKrmoore: sec ill get you a how-to
[08:19] <samuli> boxahy, Considering that you could irc while installing if it were there. REALLY stupid.
[08:19] <gluttony> hi, im here for help getting my printer working, and my sound working
[08:19] <ideogram> If I install Ubuntu LAMP is it easy to switch in PostgreSQL and maybe another language later?
[08:19] <bloody_kenny> how do u do wpa in cription
[08:19] <HackerX> well i tryed to use the mv command to move a tar file into a folder but it didnt work so im just going to drag it in but to do so i need to unlock my home folder
[08:19] <dpn> Is there a way to get the mouse wheel click scroll function in opera?
[08:19] <ljlolel> ideogram: yes
[08:19] <slowz3r> Tonren:ya i did..im realy frustraited now ive seriously re burend and downloaded it about 5 times
[08:19] <ideogram> this is great, I love Ubuntu!
[08:19] <ljlolel> i love ubuntu!
[08:19] <Cntryboy> orgullokmoore: it takes u to terminal?
[08:20] <bloody_kenny> m2
[08:20] <boxahy> ok, just installed dapper. what repo's should i add?
[08:20] <bloody_kenny> but/windos
[08:20] <OrgulloKmoore> Cntryboy> the recovery mode takes me directly to a shell: #root@kyle:
[08:20] <Tonren> slowz3r: Do you get to the screen where it lets you choose between Installing and Checking, etc.?
[08:20] <maltron> does anyone know what controls the mixing of sound in ubuntu/kubuntu?  Something seems to have been corrupted either by a buggy app or by my fiddling around with modules, but now I keep getting "/dev/dsp device could not be opened" and such
[08:20] <polpak> boxahy: just turn on universe and multiverse
[08:20] <samuli> boxahym the usual universe and multiverse.
[08:20] <Tonren> slowz3r: or does it crash even before that?
[08:20] <crimsun> maltron: alsa-lib "controls" it.
[08:20] <boxahy> if i can figure it out :P
[08:20] <Cntryboy> orgullokmoore: have you tried to dkpg-reconfigure xorg.conf
[08:20] <tsume> Lynoure: you use magnets to edit files? ;)
[08:20] <ic56> HackerX: I seriously doubt that your problem is that your "home folder is locked" (however that may be interpreted -- one doesn't normally speak of "locking" folders in unix)
[08:20] <Cntryboy> orgullokmoore: what does startx do?
[08:20] <slowz3r> Tonren: it wont even boot off the CD
[08:20] <Cntryboy> at terminal
[08:21] <ic56> HackerX: more likely, you lacked access to the tar file.
[08:21] <techmad> OrgulloKmoore: To reset your password in the recovery console try and type sudo password (new password)
[08:21] <Tonren> slowz3r: but do you at least get to the preliminary screen?
[08:21] <gluttony> i ran cups, and it recognized my printer, but when i clicked next, it took me to a screen where i was supposed to pick my model, again, and now its not there
[08:21] <ic56> HackerX: what was the error message you got?
[08:21] <slowz3r> Tonren: nope
[08:21] <Cntryboy> techmad: I didn't know he was wanting to change his password?
[08:21] <Tonren> slowz3r: jesus.  what kind of box are you running?
[08:21] <OrgulloKmoore> techmad> sudo: unable to lookup kyle.example.com via gethostbyname()
[08:21] <ideogram> should I get the DVD release?  What additional stuff is on there?
[08:21] <HackerX> ic56,mv: missing destination file
[08:22] <slowz3r> Tonren: 3.2 Ghz p4 extreme edition, gig of PC400
[08:22] <techmad> OrgulloKmoore: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sudo
[08:22] <maltron> crimsun: ok, so how might  I go about fixing it?  Everything was fine yesterday, but now I can only get sound out of one app at a time.  Could a config file be missing or corrupted?
[08:22] <samuli> slowz3r, you know that your home directory isn't /home but /home/username, right? (don't be offended :)
[08:22] <Tonren> slowz3r: maybe you're too hardcore for ubuntu.  :\
[08:22] <ic56> HackerX: sounds like you mistyped or misused the command.  Please paste the command you typed.  Show me the *exact* thing you typed.
[08:22] <bloody_kenny> hi herri
[08:23] <Tonren> slowz3r: there could be something wrong with your CD burner.
[08:23] <Awesome-o2000> hmm - so far its looking good - ive never had ndiswrapper work before so Ive got my fingers crossed
[08:23] <HackerX> ic56, mv: missing destination file
[08:23] <Tonren> slowz3r: no wait, you said the checksum passed, right?  that couldn't be it, then...
[08:23] <slowz3r> Tonren: my first linux.....Windows is realy to boring..i tried installing Mandriva too and i get an error saying that their is no hd list
[08:23] <crimsun> maltron: sorry, busy. Please paste the output from ``lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*'' onto http://pastebin.ca
[08:23] <slowz3r> Tonren: but dont worry about that i know this isnt a Mandriva IRC
[08:24] <ic56> HackerX: you've already shown me the error message.  Show me the *command* you used.
[08:24] <Awesome-o2000> I think perhaps it was the optimized kernel or something - it killed me on gentoo, killed me after a short time in ubuntu with k7 kernel, but so far is working really well with ubuntu 386 kernel
[08:24] <slowz3r> samuli: huh?
[08:24] <bloody_kenny> i love daper
[08:24] <HackerX> ic56, sorry wrong thing here mv ~/spca5xx-20051212.tar.gz
[08:25] <bloody_kenny> wat
[08:25] <Awesome-o2000> I am going to have to do some rather thorough inspection of configs
[08:25] <polpak> Awesome-o2000: I doubt the ndiswrapper would work because the drivers it's "wrapping" are x86
[08:25] <dadgumit> why does it seem like the resolutions I can select in the gui have nothing to do with what i set up in the xorg configurator?
[08:25] <bloody_kenny> ubuntu daper dake
[08:25] <maltron> crimsun: no worries.  Here is it: http://pastebin.ca/83003
[08:25] <polpak> !resolution
[08:25] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:25] <slowz3r> Tonren: you still there?
[08:25] <Awesome-o2000> polpak, well it worked REALLY bad w either gentoo or ubuntu with any kind of optimized kernel
[08:25] <techmad> HackerX you have to use mv /folder/to/file.tar /folder/to/move/file.tar
[08:25] <ic56> HackerX: ok, I see the problem.  the mv command takes *two* arguments: a source and a desitnation.  You didn't specify the destination.  But I note that the source is already in your destination
[08:25] <Awesome-o2000> polpak, but it appears im nice and stable w 386
[08:26] <samuli> slowz3r, you had problems moving a tar-ball to your home directory right?
[08:26] <Awesome-o2000> Im going to leave it streaming overnight
[08:26] <ic56> HackerX: so why are you trying to move it?
[08:26] <crimsun> maltron: ok. Do you use KDE or GNOME (or both)?
[08:26] <Tonren> slowz3r: yeah, i got nothin' though
[08:26] <Eleaf> I'm having trouble with notifications ;p..
[08:26] <Eleaf> ;D
[08:26] <slowz3r> samuli: lol..wrong person :)
[08:26] <Awesome-o2000> that would be nice, it would enable me to use my wrt54g on the front end again
[08:26] <bloody_kenny> how do u make ubuntu work for wpa
[08:26] <Eleaf> libnotify notifications sytem won't work
[08:26] <polpak> Awesome-o2000: I know because the kernel is k7 (which is the 64 bit build afaik) but the drivers are build for x86
[08:26] <slowz3r> Tonren: damn...lol
[08:26] <maltron> crimsun: I usually use kde but have both installed
[08:26] <crimsun> maltron: please join me in #kubuntu
[08:26] <maltron> mar1n2B
[08:26] <Tonren> slowz3r: i'm amazed you don't even get to the start screen.  what's the error you get?
[08:26] <samuli> slowz3r, It's too damn busy in here :)
[08:26] <maltron> crimsun: okay
[08:27] <ideogram> hey, the CD image for installing desktop and server is the same?
[08:27] <Awesome-o2000> polpak, IU just figured that out - but that doesnt explain why the ones I'd compile on gentoo would cause problems - which I will freely admit is my own fault
[08:27] <slowz3r> Tonren: i even used the sbootmgr.dsk boot disk and i got the the sbootmgr screen but when i select my drive i get an error
[08:27] <OrgulloKmoore> I think the problem lies in my /etc/hosts file, which reads 127.0.0.1	kyle
[08:27] <techmad> samuli: its always busy in here :)
[08:27] <slowz3r> Tonren: I dont get an error..it just wont boot from CD
[08:27] <OrgulloKmoore> it should say 127.0.0.1	localhost......no?
[08:27] <Tonren> slowz3r: what do you mean '"just won't"?  it doesn't give you an error, it just hangs?
[08:27] <slowz3r> samuli: lol.ya kinda hard to keep track o stuff
[08:27] <samuli> techmad, It's like wall street on steroids.
[08:27] <Awesome-o2000> polpak, not only that but I suspect if I used the k7 kernel and compiled them myself i'd have problems as well
[08:27] <techmad> samuli: lol
[08:28] <slowz3r> Tonren: ok like ill set it to boot from CD and then it will go through the boot sequence like their is no CD their..then it will bootinto windoes
[08:28] <bloody_kenny> bye guys
[08:28] <compengi> if i will delete the archive files /var/cache/apt/archives will it make any difference?
[08:28] <slowz3r> Tonren: and the error with sbootmgr is just a little red box and "error0x0
[08:28] <Tonren> slowz3r: ooh.  you know what you should do?  do you know how to get into your BIOS?
[08:29] <rusher> hello
[08:29] <Tonren> slowz3r: don't bother with sbootmgr. use the plain old Live CD.  go into your BIOS and make sure that it tries to boot from the CD-Rom FIRST.
[08:29] <Tonren> slowz3r: it should have a field for "boot volume order" or something
[08:29] <slowz3r> Tonren: ya i know how to get into my bios..ya and it is set to bootfist
[08:29] <Tonren> slowz3r: ah, crap
[08:29] <EdLin> compengi: run "apt-get clean" to make sure
[08:29] <Tonren> slowz3r: hurl your computer into the sun!
[08:30] <slowz3r> Tonren: ya thats what i said..ive fortmatted with windows many times..
[08:30] <compengi> EdLin, what is that for?
[08:30] <EdLin> compengi: man apt-get
[08:30] <slowz3r> Tonren: and what realy gets me mad and wants me to urinate on my PC is that i cant even get Mendriva past formatting
[08:30] <compengi> EdLin, what does this command do?
[08:31] <Tonren> slowz3r: your problem blows my mind.
[08:31] <Awesome-o2000> slowz3r, the problem is zapping oneself when the stream hits.
[08:31] <EdLin> compengi: if you read the manpage like I mentioned it will tell you.
[08:31] <slowz3r> Awesome-o2000: huh
[08:32] <Awesome-o2000> slowz3r, if you urinate on your PC, you will most likely at the very least knock yourself down
[08:32] <samuli> slowz3r, pee is conductive :)
[08:32] <boxahy> ok, i have breezy community repo's on my system. how do i edit it for daper
[08:32] <tsume> wow
[08:32] <slowz3r> Tonren: ya ive even watched some tutorial ubuntu and it looks so simple but noo its all compicated
[08:32] <tsume> I went to Salvation army, and bought a really great scanner for 5 bucks
[08:32] <tsume> Epson Perfection 1200U
[08:32] <boxahy> cool
[08:32] <slowz3r> samuli: damn mythbusters lied to me!!!
[08:32] <tsume> works with sane
[08:32] <Tonren> slowz3r: it was pretty simple for me too.  and i'm on an AMD64 laptop
[08:33] <crazy_penguin> good morning to all!
[08:33] <tsume> Epson has a really fast scanner which is comparable to Kodak's scanner which is like 600USD a few years ago :P
[08:33] <samuli> slowz3r, did they encourage you to 'water-cool' your computer too? :D
[08:33] <Awesome-o2000> if I am using a 386 kernel on an athlon XP I wont have stability problems, it just wont be "optimized" , right?
[08:33] <slowz3r> Tonren: ya i tried everything....when u installed did u just set to boot from CD and let it go or what
[08:33] <Awesome-o2000> no 3dnow or mmx or sse or any of that nonsense
[08:34] <slowz3r> samuli: actualy yes my comp is watercooled...DangerDen FTW
[08:34] <tsume> hmm, life can't get any better than this. Living in Alaska, have place, a malamute, and tons of computer stuff :D
[08:34] <Tonren> slowz3r: I didn't even have to set it.. must've been default.  I popped the CD in, restarted, hit "Boot/Install" and was on my way
[08:34] <tsume> and making even more money via programming apart from the full time salary job which I get bored much in.
[08:34] <samuli> slowz3r, It might be too cool for linux :/
[08:35] <slowz3r> samuli: iv worked with everything else except linux..hell i even installed DOS on a POS computer for fun
[08:35] <Awesome-o2000> well answer or no answer - thanks for gettig ndiswrapper working, with whatever kernel compination
[08:35] <slowz3r> Tonren: isnt their a way to install from desktop or no ?
[08:35] <dadgumit> my xorg.conf IN NO WAY relates to my selection of resolution in the gui
[08:35] <Tonren> slowz3r: not from windows desktop.
[08:36] <Tonren> slowz3r: which CD did you dowlnoad, exactly?
[08:36] <dadgumit> and this is after reboot
[08:36] <slowz3r> Tonren: ive downloaded all 3 and tried
[08:36] <Tonren> slowz3r: there are more than three.  have you downloaded the Dapper Live Desktop CD matching your processor?
[08:37] <boxahy> after upgrading from breezy to dapper, can i just change the name in the community repo's?
[08:37] <HackerX> &*& how do i get gcc-3.4 to work??? &*&\
[08:37] <boxahy> to dapper
[08:37] <slowz3r> Tonren: ive downloaded Desktop CD(x86) Serverinstall Cd(X86) and Alternat install cd (x86)
[08:38] <Tonren> slowz3r: hmmm...
[08:38] <ic56> HackerX: what do you mean when you say gcc doesn't work?  Please get into the habbit of reporting an error message rather than just saying "doesn't work".
[08:38] <slowz3r> Tonren: ever heard of somthing like this happening
[08:38] <Tonren> slowz3r: no way dude.  this is weird.
[08:39] <miguelsr> some one know a channel for p2p?
[08:39] <slowz3r> Tonren: i dobut it but is it possible but can i be burning ti "wrong"..lol
[08:39] <Tonren> slowz3r: i dunno, man
[08:39] <HackerX> Ic56, Check ur PM
[08:39] <polpak> slowz3r: if you browse the cd, what files are on int?
[08:39] <polpak> slowz3r: it rather
[08:39] <Tonren> slowz3r: try ordering a cd from ShipIt or have a friend burn it
[08:40] <vigilante> Anybody here runing Quake 4 demo?  (mine is running fine, but sound is horrible)
[08:40] <EdLin> !pm
[08:40] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[08:40] <slowz3r> Tonren: let me pop the disk in now..and i did order a CD ..i just dont wanna wait..
[08:40] <rusher> how do you people download torrent moviies when they always need a password
[08:40] <tsume> woot, this scanner is on the market at 200USD :P
[08:40] <tritium> rusher: don't ask that here
[08:40] <Tonren> tsume: fell off the truck?
[08:40] <firebird619> I use TVtime for watching tv, but I don't have any sound. I have found that the problem is because I use digital speakers. Is there a way to make tvtime work with digital, or does anyone know of a program that does work with digital speakers?
[08:41] <HackerX> ic56, FATAL: Error inserting spca5xx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/kernel/drivers/usb/me dia/spca5xx.ko): Invalid module format
[08:41] <compengi> EdLin, can you give me the link?
[08:41] <tsume> Tonren: bought for 5 bucks from salvation army
[08:42] <cavediver^work> Hi guys, Is it possible to add some option to decrypt files using right-click on a pgp file ?
[08:42] <derek> hi men   i can't play mp3 on phythmbox music player , can anybody tell me how to ?
[08:42] <Tonren> tsume: whoaaaaaaaaaaaa
[08:42] <tsume> Tonren: in 2000, this scanner used to cost 299USD
[08:42] <cavediver^work> Encrypting is availible but not decrypt for some reason.
[08:42] <Tonren> derek: It's on wiki.ubuntu.org.  search for RestrictedFormats
[08:42] <EdLin> compengi: I don't know of a link to the apt-get manpage, use the man command
[08:42] <unstablesob> !mp3
[08:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:42] <Tonren> !restrictedformats
[08:42] <tsume> Tonren: its lighting fast, and really good. 1200x1400 36-bit color
[08:42] <derek> Tonren, ok  thanks
[08:42] <csk> hi all. i am trying to make a folder i have mounted to have write privilage. i know i have to use "chmod 755 My Music" to get it to work but everytime i type My Music in terminal it says "no such file or directory"
[08:42] <tsume> Tonren: scanning normal stuff, its like.. *zip* *zip* done!
[08:42] <slowz3r> Tonren: this is the desktop Cd files..disk,bin,casper,disctree,dist,install,isolinux,pics,pool,preseed,programs  those are the folders here are the individual files... autorun,md5sum,readme.diskdefnes,start and an ubuntu file that is 0k so i dunno what that is
[08:42] <tsume> Tonren: I'm like.. *aww* :P
[08:43] <HackerX> ic56, ???
[08:43] <Tonren> slowz3r: wait, dude, what are you talkin gabout right now?  did it boot to Ubuntu Desktop?
[08:43] <tsume> Tonren: I used to have a microtek years ago, it was so slow as hell
[08:43] <polpak> slowz3r: that seems fine. you sure the bios is configured to boot from the CD?
[08:43] <Tonren> tsume: I've had a CanoSCan LiDE30 for like four years, it's so freaking good
[08:43] <miguelsr> some one know a channel for p2p?
[08:43] <slowz3r> polpak: yes 100% sure
[08:44] <dpn> Is there a way to stretch the bars in gnome across both monitors with twinview?
[08:44] <ic56> HackerX: I haven't tried to do what I'm guessing you are trying to do (and you didn't tell us) but I'm guessing the problem might be that you are mixing and matching different versions of gcc: the library was built with one version.  You are now building a module with a different version.  That's always likely to cause trouble.  In Linux, in Windows, in any system.
[08:44] <slowz3r> Tonren: u said to explore the CD and tell u waht was in it
[08:44] <Tonren> slowz3r: i, uh... that wasn't me.
[08:44] <tsume> dpn: no, now go away ;)
[08:44] <dpn> :o
[08:44] <slowz3r> Tonren: oopps..lol..
[08:45] <tsume> my girl Faith is so cool :)
[08:45] <ic56> HackerX: either switch back to the version of gcc with which your system was built or else rebuild all your libraries.
[08:45] <tsume> http://tsumelabs.com/malamute/
[08:45] <slowz3r> polpak: TEAR
[08:45] <HackerX> ic56, FATAL: Error inserting spca5xx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/kernel/drivers/usb/me dia/spca5xx.ko): Invalid module format
[08:45] <HackerX> ic56 ugh sorry
[08:45] <vigilante> Anybody know why sound in Quake 4 demo would be all garbled and choppy?
[08:46] <HackerX> ic56, wrong thing
[08:46] <ideogram> Lite-On/Cendyne drives are crap
[08:46] <slowz3r> samsung/plextor FTW
[08:46] <ideogram> I bought a plextor a year ago and it rocks
[08:46] <ideogram> my old Lite-On is dying
[08:46] <slowz3r> lol
[08:46] <ideogram> barely used it
[08:47] <slowz3r> I WANT TO GO OUTSIDE and shoot my computer with my paintball gun...ahhh
[08:47] <HackerX> ic56, ok im reading on the site that i can use export CC=gcc-3.4 workaround to get it to work
[08:48] <crimsun> HackerX: that's relevant for Breezy
[08:48] <HackerX> ugh
[08:48] <HackerX> crimsun, ok so then how do i get my Logitech Quickcam to work???
[08:48] <OrgulloKmoore> yay!
[08:48] <OrgulloKmoore> I fixed it
[08:48] <crimsun> HackerX: does it not work with the default Ubuntu kernel?
[08:49] <crimsun> (2.6.15-25.43)
[08:49] <HackerX> crimsun, no i cant get it to work
[08:49] <HackerX> i cant remember the error off hand
[08:50] <HackerX> plus im banned on this channel for one swearword so its not easy for me to copy things
[08:50] <HackerX> with the workaround im using
[08:50] <crimsun> HackerX: pastebin will suffice
[08:50] <HackerX> yea
[08:52] <cavediver^work> Anyone know if there is a "install to encrypted filesystem" going on? I'd love to see that in Eft, perfect on my laptop.
[08:52] <cavediver^work> project should go in there somewhere :)
[08:53] <slowz3r> hey.realy quick question
[08:53] <HackerX> ! paste
[08:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:53] <slowz3r> what is the average time it takes for an ubuntu CD to arive if u ordered it from shipit
[08:54] <cavediver^work> Mine took a month
[08:54] <cavediver^work> but I order a week before release also
[08:54] <slowz3r> sigh..i cant wait taht longs.../life
[08:54] <slowz3r> lol
[08:54] <cavediver^work> A month is not long... compared to a year :=)
[08:55] <HackerX> crimsun, Http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17601
[08:55] <slowz3r> ouch ...a year...o well i guess ill keep trying to install ubuntu untill it arives or a run my fingers to the bone on my keyobard
[08:56] <crimsun> HackerX: do you have build-essential installed?
[08:56] <top222> I had fun using a 40MB FAT32 partition on the HD of a laptop, downloading the installer there, and then using a GRUB bootdisk to start the installer.
[08:57] <HackerX> crimsun, yes
[08:58] <top222> Then it took some hours to download all the packages from the 'net, but the end result was a working Dapper system (not including the Thinkpad-ish problems I had after that).
[08:58] <crimsun> HackerX: apt-get --reinstall install build-essential
[08:59] <top222> Has anyone thought about a world file for Ubuntu?
[08:59] <holycow> what is a world file?
[08:59] <HackerX> crimsun, nope same thing
[08:59] <kaot> like portage has?
[08:59] <top222> It means you need, let's say, 10 different programs or packages
[08:59] <top222> They pull in some 200 dependencies
[09:00] <holycow> and?
[09:00] <top222> Then you remove one of those programs, but the dependencies that were there only for that program still remain
[09:00] <crimsun> HackerX: apt-get --reinstall install gcc-4.0
[09:00] <holycow> thats stupid, aptitude already does that
[09:00] <tritium> top222: using aptitude eliminates that problem
[09:00] <top222> Is Aptitude a GUI for apt-get?
[09:01] <tritium> top222: not a gui, no
[09:01] <snoops> synaptic is a gui for apt
[09:01] <archetypo> can someone explain the pmounter in ubuntu?  is there a way to change the behaviour of volumes being added to the desktop?
[09:01] <HackerX> crimsun, same thing
[09:01] <technician> hi i am doing failover router tutorial but in my ubuntu  i dont have iptables in /etc/iptables so how to restart
[09:02] <top222> How do I get to use aptitude?
[09:02] <kaot> technician: erm... what?
[09:02] <archetypo> and another thing...isn't there a gnome gui tool to change the login screen (currently showing xubuntu) i know how to do this manually just curious where the applet is to do it?
[09:02] <technician> in this tutorial in this step it is required to restart network and iptables
[09:02] <crimsun> HackerX: same thing? pastebin ``gcc -v''
[09:02] <tritium> top222: it's already installed for you.
[09:02] <technician> kaot i am using ubuntu to make failover router
[09:02] <technician> i have a tutorial in which we use iptable rules
[09:02] <top222> tritium: Where do I go to specify the packages I really want, to separate them from pure dependencies?
[09:03] <holycow> !aptitude
[09:03] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[09:03] <technician> but there is a step which states you have to restart network and iptables
[09:03] <top222> Thanks, I'll check that
[09:03] <tritium> top222: as I said, aptitude can do that (not retroactively, of course)
[09:03] <HackerX> crimsun, command not found
[09:03] <technician> but in /etc/init.d/ there is no iptables how to restart that
[09:03] <polpak> technician: you'll have to make one
[09:03] <crimsun> HackerX: then you can't have reinstalled gcc-4.0
[09:03] <kaot> technician: I guesss you could do iptables-save >~/iptables-rules and then iptables-restore <~/iptables-rules
[09:03] <top222> tritium: Then a world-file-ish functionality would still be an improvement
[09:03] <technician> polpak how do i make one ?
[09:04] <tritium> top222: no, just use aptitude to begin with
[09:04] <crimsun> HackerX: pastebin this command and all its output: ``sudo apt-get --reinstall install gcc-4.0''
[09:04] <technician> kaot if i save and the rule is not proper then i dont know how to delete
[09:04] <tritium> top222: there are also deborphan and debfoster
[09:04] <top222> tritium: How many people know to do that?
[09:04] <holycow> oh forgot about those right
[09:04] <tritium> top222: I've never taken a poll
[09:05] <kaot> technician: well, "restart iptables" makes no sense, really.  It isn't a service, per se.
[09:05] <technician> kaot can i send u the link of the tutorial can you guide me ?
[09:05] <top222> I must admit I had quite a mess with Gentoo's world file too, by manually installing the dependencies too, one at a time.
[09:05] <kaot> yeh what's the url
[09:05] <crimsun> top222: a "world file"? How do you propose to integrate this into apt?
[09:05] <snoops> if I install a package with many dependancies with apt-get, can I use aptitude to remove the package + any unused dependancies or do I have to use aptitude to install for that ability?
[09:05] <technician> http://enterprise.linux.com/enterprise/05/04/10/2132252.shtml?tid=129&tid=100&tid=119
[09:05] <crimsun> snoops: the latter.
[09:05] <snoops> k, thanks
[09:06] <tritium> snoops: that's why I said above that it can't be used retroactively
[09:06] <top222> crimsun: I don't think it could be integrated.  But it could be an additional functionality for Synaptic, for example.
[09:06] <HackerX> crimsun, Http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17602
[09:06] <vigilante> Im getting same messed up sound with both quake 4 and Doom 3, anybody know how to fix please help?
[09:06] <crimsun> top222: so how do you propose to integrate it with apt?
[09:07] <top222> crimsun: A tool in a separate window where you have a) set of all installed packages, b) set of metapackages and c) set of packages not needed by these metapackages and programs.
[09:07] <snoops> tritium sorry, didn't see you say that
[09:07] <crimsun> top222: don't you see that if you integrate it into an apt frontend, you're simply reintroducing what aptitude does?
[09:07] <tritium> snoops: that's okay
[09:07] <crimsun> top222: the functionality needs to be developed at a lower level in the stack than the frontend.
[09:08] <top222> crimsun: Does aptitude allow one to manually construct the world file, or see the changes it would cause, on a per-package basis?
[09:08] <Shizboom> how would i do something like this in ubuntu? http://myweb.wit.edu/keddemn/ad01.jpg
[09:08] <Shizboom> with the embedded page
[09:08] <crimsun> top222: dpkg already does that, and apt extends it
[09:08] <crimsun> top222: although your "world file" is fairly ambiguous here.
[09:08] <HackerX> crimsun, Http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17602
[09:08] <Ayabara> hi guys! I have started partitioning my hd for installing ubuntu, and I need som help. stefg and snoops helped me find a partition layout yesterday. 7-10GB root+home, 2GB swap, 1,5GB for /var and the rest fat32 storage.
[09:09] <snoops> Shizboom that being actice desktop in windows right?
[09:09] <Shizboom> yes
[09:09] <kaot> technician: those instructions apply to a different distro.  you want to do something like I said, iptables-save >/etc/ruleset, and then add to your /etc/rc.local a line like /sbin/iptables-restore </etc/ruleset
[09:09] <snoops> hey Ayabara :)
[09:09] <Ayabara> snoops: hey :-)
[09:09] <top222> crimsun: It is a set of "primary" packages that are wanted for their own functionality, not because something depends on them.
[09:09] <dpn> How do I remove a directory
[09:09] <technician> kaot once it is save then how to delete if doesnt worked ?
[09:09] <crimsun> HackerX: now, ``apt-get --reinstall install gcc''
[09:09] <holycow> dpn, rm -rf
[09:09] <kaot> technician: remove the line from /etc/rc.local
[09:10] <kaot> technician: then iptables -F
[09:10] <kaot> sudo of course
[09:10] <top222> crimsun: The point is the ability to specify those packages, and see all the unnecessary stale dependencies that are not needed by the specified packages.
[09:10] <kaot> technician: also iptables -t nat -F
[09:10] <kaot> technician: but if you've got an existing ruleset you probably should have saved it before making those changes.  little late now I guess.
[09:10] <technician> F stands for ?
[09:10] <kaot> flush
[09:11] <crimsun> top222: please let us migrate to #ubuntu-offtopic, since this is a support channel
[09:11] <Ayabara> first Q: which partitions should be primary, and which should be contained in an extended one? second Q: how do I put the /var on a partition?
[09:11] <technician> that flushes all the rules ? set by the user ?
[09:11] <Shizboom> snoops - did you have any ideas? or maybe where i would start looking
[09:11] <technician> as well as the default ? kaot?
[09:11] <snoops> Shizboom sorry, I'm not sure.. haven't done that myself.. let me have a google though
[09:11] <top222> crimsun: No... I think I'll drop my case and see if I can bring this up later somewhere else
[09:11] <holycow> ayabra, it doesn't matter really, that is just a function of the fact your drives are ide
[09:11] <kaot> technician: wha?
[09:11] <crimsun> top222: fine by me.
[09:12] <timfrost> dpn, if the directory is empty, then rmdir <directory>
[09:12] <technician> i mean user defined rules are remove or all
[09:12] <Shizboom> i have been googling and forum hopping for a bit now and no idea how to still ;x
[09:12] <Ayabara> holycow: the thing that stopped me was the partitioner saying I could have at most 4 primary partitions
[09:12] <kaot> technician: -F will remove ALL rules.  your iptables will be basically empty and nonfunctional, unless you've got a default policy in place.  in which case, you'd better be local to this box and not messing around over the network.
[09:13] <snoops> Ayabara to be honest I wouldn't worry about a /var partition
[09:13] <technician> well i am local and it is a try but how to bring the default back ?
[09:13] <holycow> Ayabara, true, thats because they are ide drives.  ide drives can only have 4 primary partitions, and each of those can have 4 extended partitions
[09:13] <kaot> technician: did you have iptables configured before you started on this failover project?
[09:13] <Ayabara> snoops: ok. never did it before, and never missed it :-)
[09:13] <kaot> technician: or is this the first firewalling/iptables stuff you've done?
[09:14] <technician> nope
[09:14] <Ayabara> holycow: ok
[09:14] <kaot> technician: ok, -F will restore you to default then, which is no ruleset at all.
[09:14] <technician> kaot it is the first time
[09:14] <technician> ok ;) that's fine
[09:14] <technician> kaot can i get ur yahoo or msn ?
[09:14] <Ayabara> I could use 10GB for /home + /root, 2GB swap and the rest fat32 storage shared between xp/ubuntu. should that be ok?
[09:14] <kaot> technician: I don't have any instant messaging
[09:14] <technician> incase i need help or you are around ?
[09:15] <technician> do you stay around here ?
[09:15] <kaot> technician: I keep irc open most of the time, but I'm not always here or paying attention
[09:15] <kaot> it's hit-or-miss
[09:15] <kaot> sorry
[09:15] <bluelite28> hey I'm trying to make Rythmbox play mp3s is it possible?
[09:15] <technician> never mind i can leave a message  kaot so nice of u
[09:15] <technician> i will try now
[09:15] <technician> thanks
[09:15] <kaot> good luck
[09:16] <nol13> hi, i just upgraded to dapper, finally got my internet working after changing the firmware, it seems though that its back to using the freeware acx driver instead of ndiswrapper because my connection tops at about 20kB/s now.. how do i get it to use ndiswrapper again? thx
[09:16] <technician> kaot thanks
[09:16] <bluelite28> mp3's in Rythmbox.. anyone?
[09:16] <narfmaster> !mp3
[09:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:16] <crimsun> !restricted > bluelite28
[09:16] <Ayabara> should I use reiser or ext3 for /root?
[09:16] <samuli> bluelite28, yes. You could just get the needed codecs for the task, but in the long run you'd be better of of downloading and running easyubuntu.
[09:16] <snoops> Ayabara well.. rule of thumb for swap is twice your ram (but doesn't matter after a lot of ram eg I wouldn't bother with a 4gb swap with 2gb of ram), /home is for all your personal files and desktop settings etc, so usually you want that to be the largest.. then you have / for all applications, os stuff etc.. if you can maybe 10-20 gb for / (20 if you install a huge amount of apps etc)
[09:17] <crimsun> Ayabara: / or /root? Generally /root is on /
[09:17] <bluelite28> thanks
[09:17] <boxahy> !wireless
[09:17] <ubotu> wifi is Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[09:17] <samuli> !tell bluelite28 about easyubuntu
[09:17] <bluelite28> thanks again
[09:17] <Ayabara> crimsun, / I meant :-)
[09:17] <crimsun> Ayabara: that's your call, really.
[09:18] <snoops> Ayabara the idea behind it is that allows you to multiple installs with different partitions for the install+apps but keep your /home across both
[09:19] <JuhazOne> maybe there's now someone who could help me with my problem?
[09:19] <revilot> anyone know a firewall that will monitor programs trying to connect to the internet and ask me to allow them or not
[09:19] <JuhazOne> grub doesn't seem to find my new serial ata drive when i try to boot from it
[09:19] <Ayabara> snoops: ok. don't really know which size to choose for /home then... I guess 7GB for / , 2GB swap (is twice my ram), xGB for /home and the rest for fat32 storage
[09:19] <samuli> bluelite28, hope it helps.
[09:19] <JuhazOne> it's probably because i don't know what the (hdX,Y) code is
[09:19] <narfmaster> revilot, you can use ethereal to monitor the network
[09:19] <avis> revilot, the one i know that is in the dapper repos is firestarter though i have never used it so i dont know how its controlled.  i assume you open ports on yoru localhost.
[09:20] <revilot> narfmaster: is that gui?
[09:20] <JuhazOne> so... is there a way to find out how BIOS (or whatever) maps those drives?
[09:20] <avis> revilot, if your behind a NAT router you already have a layer of firewall
[09:20] <snoops> Ayabara how much space do you have?
[09:20] <narfmaster> revilot, yes
[09:20] <revilot> avis: ya but i like to see whats connecting and be asked
[09:20] <Ayabara> snoops: I have 100gb on my laptop drive, 12 are taken by xp
[09:20] <narfmaster> revilot, tethereal is for the terminal
[09:20] <samuli> JuhazOne, first 0 = hda, second the partition. So hda1 = hd0,0 in grub and so on.
[09:20] <avis> i have heard of ethereal and etherape to monitor traffic
[09:20] <snoops> Shizboom have you tried kwebdesktop?
[09:21] <JuhazOne> samuli: yes i know that
[09:21] <revilot> narfmaster: ok ill give that a go thx
[09:21] <Shizboom> by the sounds of it, it wouldn't update
[09:21] <narfmaster> revilot, no problem
[09:21] <Shizboom> but ill look into it a bit more
[09:21] <JuhazOne> /dev/hda is (hd0) in grub. but what is /dev/sda in grub?
[09:21] <Shizboom> it seems to save it as a picture
[09:21] <revilot> avis: i tried firestarter but it doesnt seem to ask my permission for anything
[09:21] <JuhazOne> it's not hd1, hd4 or hd8 that's for sure
[09:21] <snoops> Ayabara oh, then be generous.. say 15 gb for /, say /home 5, 2gb swap
[09:22] <samuli> JuhazOne, Isn't it still hd0?
[09:22] <JuhazOne> err... even if i have two drives, one regular ata and on serial ata?
[09:22] <avis> revilot, i know of one that is a little more advanced i dont know if its still in active development but its ip-kungfu
[09:22] <archetypo> i have a rediculous question, but how do you put home folder, trash, and Computer on the desktop?
[09:22] <archetypo> please, don't hit :D
[09:23] <samuli> JuhazOne, Okay. I don't know then.
[09:23] <avis> though that is port specific i think the other programs would be better suited to monitor your network devices
[09:23] <snoops> Shizboom ah.. so not really a web page.. bit crappy
[09:23] <technician> kaot one question
[09:23] <revilot> avis: i'm coming from windows where i used sygate
[09:23] <kaot> technician: k
[09:23] <narfmaster> archetypo, are you using Gnome?
[09:23] <revilot> avis: trying to ditch win if i can
[09:23] <avis> how are you connected to the internet revilot?
[09:23] <archetypo> narfmaster: yeah
[09:23] <ic56> JuhazOne: I'm googling about your grub with SATA issue
[09:23] <technician> for a test purpose i am using two internet connection from the same network
[09:23] <revilot> avis: wireless through a router
[09:23] <JuhazOne> ic56: thanks
[09:23] <JuhazOne> i'm trying to do the same tihng
[09:23] <narfmaster> archetypo, in Gnome those are just Nautilus settings
[09:24] <technician> kaot for a test purpose from the same network i am using two internet connection which are going to one different network
[09:24] <avis> revilot, well you caught on to linux right bout the right moment because essentially most everything can be done under linux that you could under windows and its all open source
[09:24] <Ayabara> snoops:that is settled then. I setup / as a primary partition. can I create an extended of the rest and put swap /home and /storage in that one?
[09:24] <snoops> ic56 which issue? I had a problem where grub would not install itself into my sata, and ended up installing itself in the wrong mbr
[09:24] <archetypo> narfmaster   where is nautilus config?
[09:24] <technician> kaotit shouldnt be a problem rite ?
[09:24] <narfmaster> archetypo, if you go into the "gconf-editor" it will be at "/apps/nautilus/desktop/computer_icon_name"
[09:24] <technician> kaot it shouldnt be a problem rite ?
[09:24] <snoops> Ayabara yep
[09:24] <narfmaster> err "/apps/nautilus/desktop/"
[09:24] <JuhazOne> snoops: i'm trying to get grub to boot off my sata disk
[09:24] <ic56> snoops: /last is your friend.
[09:24] <Linux-Hyper> !grub-install
[09:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about grub-install
[09:25] <revilot> avis: my main problem is raw photo editing...linux just doesnt have anything worthwhile for it yet
[09:25] <Linux-Hyper> hmm
[09:25] <kaot> technician: erm.  shouldn't be, no.  you'll probably end up with two default gw lines with the same ip address via different interfaces
[09:25] <Linux-Hyper> !windows mbr
[09:25] <archetypo> narfmaster ah ha!! ok.
[09:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about windows mbr
[09:25] <archetypo> thanx
[09:25] <kaot> technician: it should work for testing, yeah.
[09:25] <snoops> JuhazOne got a few hdd's?
[09:25] <JuhazOne> snoops: i've got a regular disk that's /dev/hda = (hd0). the sata disk appears as /dev/sda but i don't know what grub thinks it is
[09:25] <oskude> !mbr
[09:25] <JuhazOne> or the bios. or something.
[09:25] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:25] <technician> ok thanks kaot i will try now
[09:25] <revilot> avis: Im going to give crossover office a go to see if it will run what i need
[09:25] <avis> revilot, thats great.  if you've assigned a static ip you can close and open port ranges for that lan ip but being wireless really your are totally protected against anything.  except rain ;)
[09:25] <calamari> hi
[09:25] <avis> revilot, have you looked at openoffice 2.0 ?
[09:26] <raf> how can i get rid of those stupid desktop hard drive icons
[09:26] <raf> ?
[09:26] <xnull-> how do I install kde? i have ubuntu :)
[09:26] <ic56> JuhazOne: I see someone saying that like SATA drives and IDE drives are merged into a single numbering scheme by grub.
[09:26] <JuhazOne> ic56: meaning?
[09:26] <avis> revilot, its really nifty.  i'd use it if i had room for another printer.
[09:26] <snoops> JuhazOne well okay
[09:26] <revilot> avis: thats great for text, im talking about photo editing
[09:26] <snoops> JuhazOne I had to manually install grub myself too
[09:26] <kaot> mmmmm
[09:26] <Linux-Hyper> how can i recover from a vista beta 2 install (grub is gone) i booted into winxp cd and did fixboot then fixmbr. and now the vista 2 bootloader is gone, and it just boots into windows. ive tried the following:  boot ubuntu and entered the resuce mode, when i get hda,2 i can execute shells etc., or just pick reinstall grub they all exit with error code 20
[09:26] <ic56> JuhazOne: I just don't know which ends up being first -- the SATA or IDE controllers...
[09:26] <archetypo> narfmaster there we go. thanks a lot
[09:26] <snoops> JuhazOne do you have another drive besides the sata?
[09:26] <revilot> avis: raw photo editing
[09:26] <calamari> I'm trying to view an image that is larger than my memory can hold, so Linux ends up terminating the viewers.  Is there an image viewer that only keeps in memory the part of the image being displayed, or scales while it reads, only storing the image in memory?
[09:26] <avis> and as a secondary between you and me kinda think revilot before you totally switch to linux backup your windows fonts :)
[09:26] <narfmaster> archetypo, you're welcome :)
[09:27] <JuhazOne> snoops: yeah. the one i'm using right now typing this text
[09:27] <DBO> !grub > Linux-Hyper
[09:27] <revilot> anyone in here use crossover office
[09:27] <JuhazOne> ic56: well at least the regular ata (/dev/hda) is mapped to (hd0)
[09:27] <samuli> JuhazOne, what's in your /boot/grub/device.map?
[09:27] <avis> revilot, gimp is the rage for many people.  it comes stock with any ubuntu install.  it just has to be learned.  you can do amazing things with it.
[09:27] <timfrost> JuhazOne, grub counts detected disks.  If you only have the two, then grub will treat the sata disk as hd1
[09:27] <JuhazOne> also, in the ubuntu installer grub makes /dev/sda (hd1)
[09:27] <ic56> JuhazOne: and (hd1) doesn't work as your SATA drive, huh?
[09:28] <JuhazOne> BUT it doesn't work when i try to boot :/
[09:28] <revilot> avis: ya its ok but wont edit raw photos
[09:28] <JuhazOne> ic56: apparentyl not
[09:28] <avis> revilot, what extension does a raw photo use ?
[09:28] <snoops> timfrost it depends.. my sata is hd0 on my machine, but I have 4 hdd's.. including an ata
[09:28] <JuhazOne> samuli: originally on this installation there was only (hd0)   /dev/hda
[09:28] <revilot> my canon uses .CR2
[09:28] <avis> ok
[09:28] <snoops> JuhazOne this is what I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-bf0ad184b84304b51996a11111a1901667529a80
[09:28] <avis> let me google for you
[09:28] <JuhazOne> i tried adding some things like (hd1) /dev/sda (hd4) etc.
[09:29] <ic56> JuhazOne: wait a minute, if the installer sets it up that way, it's probably right.  The reason it doesn't work must be something different.  Perhaps you're specifying a drive where you should be specifying a specifric partition on that drive?
[09:29] <snoops> basically gets you to chroot into your install, and install grub on the specified hdd
[09:29] <revilot> avis: i know about ufraw but its not so good
[09:29] <samuli> JuhazOne, try making hd0 /dev/sda and hd1 */hda
[09:29] <JuhazOne> ic56: humm. well if that's the case, the installer failed anyway
[09:29] <JuhazOne> yeah, could try that one..
[09:29] <avis> revilot, look at this url it supports your .CR2
[09:29] <avis> http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/perl/libimage-exiftool-perl
[09:29] <xnull-> how can I download some themes with synaptic? for gnome?
[09:30] <revilot> avis: thats just for EXIF data
[09:30] <samuli> JuhazOne, it's worth a try and the problem might lie in how grub can only 'sense' how bios handles the drives I think.
[09:30] <ic56> JuhazOne: how about you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst for us  and also describe the error message or erroneous behaviour you're getting when you try to boot from the SATA drive
[09:30] <snoops> JuhazOne the ubuntu install tries to auto detect which hdd to install onto.. and has a known bug with sata and ata drives
[09:30] <Ayabara> snoops, crimsun,holycow: thanks for helping (again and again) :-)
[09:30] <Linux-Hyper> DBO ive tried that method. i have to choose: dev/discs/disc1/part2  (even tho its the primary hdd) (there are 3 dev/discs/disc0/part* results but arnt the ones to use)  they all say something about /target/usr/something/policy.rd doesnt exist or it exits with error code 20 , altho it works fine if i choose /dev/hdb instead of /dev/hda
[09:30] <JuhazOne> samuli: true
[09:31] <JuhazOne> snoops: really? interesting
[09:31] <archetypo> is there an app that puts "launch terminal here" on the right-click menu?
[09:31] <snoops> JuhazOne that's relating to grub sorry
[09:31] <revilot> avis: thx for looking though :)
[09:31] <samuli> I think the problem is more in the limitations of grub.
[09:31] <avis> Converting RAW to Jpeg in Linux - Linux, Photography -  http://blogs.linux.ie/xeer/2005/09/18/converting-raw-to-jpeg-in-linux/
[09:31] <avis> revilot that link is what you need the first one was just for the meta data
[09:32] <cps> xnull-: there is a package called gnome-theme-extras
[09:32] <revilot> avis: dcraw doesnt do any actual editing of the file...raw is like a negative from the film days of photography
[09:32] <avis> oh i see
[09:32] <revilot> raw is a digital negative
[09:32] <avis> ok
[09:32] <JuhazOne> ic56: that's the menu.lst... http://rafb.net/paste/results/MFOQrD34.html
[09:33] <cps> xnull-: also if you search for icon-theme you will find a bunch of icon themes to install
[09:33] <JuhazOne> there are some entries that i tried out to see if they work :)
[09:33] <Linux-Hyper> DBO:   you are then presented with a command prompt (a hash). <---- this here is incorrect for me. i get presented with another submenu with options such as these: Execute shell on dev/discs/disc1.......  |   some other kinda enviroment shell |   reinstall grub boot loader  | and another option i think might be go back, which would be the command prompt? (ive tried both)
[09:33] <revilot> avis: thx for looking though :)
[09:33] <Linux-Hyper> or anyone here has any idea's please read up regarding my posts. thanks in advance
[09:33] <JuhazOne> as for the error msgs, i'll have to boot again to see what it says. trying (hd1) gave error 21 though, which means (i've read) that disk can't be found
[09:33] <avis> i could not find any hits for edit .CR2 for dapper but i wish you luck
[09:34] <snoops> how many hdd's do you have in the machine JuhazOne?
[09:34] <revilot> avis: thx
[09:34] <JuhazOne> two
[09:34] <JuhazOne> one regular ata and one serial ata
[09:34] <snoops> okay, so hd8 is DEFINITELY wrong
[09:34] <dpn> Is cedega worth the $5 a month subscription fee?
[09:34] <JuhazOne> snoops: yeah, it told me that :)
[09:34] <techmad> dpn: if you ask me yes
[09:34] <JuhazOne> dpn: depends on what you expect
[09:34] <avis> serial ata are treated like scsi devices such as /dev/sda1
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> dpn: not really
[09:35] <JuhazOne> i was able to play half-life 2 with cedega
[09:35] <dpn> lol
[09:35] <techmad> dpn: im playing wow have been since it came out without any problem
[09:35] <ic56> JuhazOne: I don't see any hd1 entries in that menu.lst
[09:35] <JuhazOne> yea tried it before
[09:35] <boxgamex> how many fps
[09:35] <dpn> I'm more concerned about cs:s - I broke my WoW addiction :0
[09:35] <loserboy> so cedega is better than wine?
[09:35] <ic56> JuhazOne: which is the bootable partition on the SATA?
[09:35] <techmad> boxgamex: me?
[09:35] <JuhazOne> boxgamex: i've got nvidia 7800 gs... i was able to play hl2 with 1600x1200 resolution with all the knobs turned to full
[09:36] <pharcvde> i havent been able to get css workign with wine
[09:36] <JuhazOne> ic56: the first one. /dev/sda1 or (hd?,0)
[09:36] <boxgamex> techmad, yeah. you on WoW
[09:36] <dpn> so cs:s will be fine in cedega with a 7800gtx i guess
[09:36] <JuhazOne> anyways, i think i'll try that mapping /dev/sda to (hd0)
[09:36] <dpn> are there any issues with xgl and cedega running at the same time
[09:36] <avis> i got a geforce 6200 to replace my fx5200 -- sometime next week.
[09:36] <boxgamex> i have a 6200LE. lol
[09:36] <techmad> boxgamex: in the mid of org i get 30 same as windows
[09:36] <calamari> I'm trying to view an image that is larger than my memory can hold, so Linux ends up terminating the viewers.  Is there an image viewer that only keeps in memory the part of the image being displayed, or scales while it reads, only storing the scaled image in memory?
[09:36] <JuhazOne> i don't know if it works but i had a similar issue with a ata/66 drive in the past...
[09:36] <avis> boxgamex, any problems with it ?
[09:36] <boxgamex> techmad, what system specs?
[09:36] <techmad> boxgamex: i run everything in full settings
[09:37] <boxgamex> nope avis
[09:37] <revilot> dpn i dont think you can play games with xgl running
[09:37] <avis> most excellent
[09:37] <ic56> JuhazOne: ok, I recommend an entry along these lines: root (hd0,0) ; kernel root=/dev/sda1
[09:37] <JuhazOne> i was using lilo at the time. turns out i had to map something like a -> b and b -> a to get it working
[09:37] <boxgamex> avis, evga brand?
[09:37] <snoops> revilot hang on
[09:37] <techmad> boxgamex: dual core 1.66 5400 hdd 1.5gb ram gf go 7400 or something
[09:37] <avis> yes
[09:37] <avis> though i dont think its LE
[09:37] <revilot> snoops: hanging
[09:37] <JuhazOne> ic56: with or without mapping (hd0) to /dev/sda in devices.map?
[09:37] <avis> boxgamex, how did you know ?
[09:37] <boxgamex> techmad, ah i run a amd 3000+, 768mb ram, and 6200 LE
[09:37] <snoops> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=176636 revilot regarding gaming with xgl
[09:37] <boxgamex> avis, cheap on newegg? pci-e?
[09:37] <techmad> boxgamex: <3 my laptop
[09:38] <avis> boxgamex, nope, ebay.  3 day shipping.  agp 8x 128megs sealed
[09:38] <boxgamex> techmad, that isnt an asus laptop is it?
[09:38] <boxgamex> ah avis
[09:38] <boxgamex> just a hunch you had the same one as me
[09:38] <ic56> JuhazOne: with -- do map (hd0) to /dev/sda
[09:38] <boxgamex> lol
[09:38] <techmad> boxgamex: nah hp
[09:38] <JuhazOne> ok.
[09:38] <ic56> JuhazOne: oops No!  map (hd1) to /dev/sda
[09:38] <JuhazOne> hmm
[09:38] <revilot> snoops: good link
[09:38] <technician> kaot i am on the last step where i am trying to change the value of /proc/sys/net/ipv4/route/gc_timeout and it as do you really want to write the value
[09:39] <JuhazOne> i wonder what happens if i do that
[09:39] <JuhazOne> oh well, gotta try
[09:39] <technician> kaot when i try to write it gives error E667: Fsync failed
[09:39] <ic56> JuhazOne: hd0 should already be mapped to your /dev/hda .  You still want that to work, right?
[09:39] <boxgamex> hmm i dont wanna pay for cegeda and find out its crappy
[09:39] <techmad> boxgamex: never had a prob with cedega in bwl aq mc
[09:39] <Linux-Hyper> !grub error code 20
[09:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about grub error code 20
[09:39] <boxgamex> my WoW subsription is dead anyways
[09:39] <snoops> boxgamex you can compile it from cvs
[09:39] <boxgamex> it ran out :(
[09:39] <JuhazOne> ic56: well... i suppose it'll work anyway when i'm in linux. booting the old system won't hopefully be needed. and i haven't booted into windows in a long time
[09:40] <snoops> boxgamex but the thing is, the cvs does not include the copy protection breaking stuff which the paid for version has
[09:40] <JuhazOne> still, i'll see if it works
[09:40] <techmad> boxgamex: compile from cvs if you like it supper them with the 5$ a month
[09:40] <JuhazOne> i've got a bouncer so it'll appear that i'm on this channel even though i'm in the process of rebooting my computer
[09:40] <boxgamex> man, i dread installing WoW again. lol
[09:40] <ic56> JuhazOne: good luck
[09:40] <avis> boxgamex, my windows machine is a X2 4200 with 2 gigs of ram and eSATA 560GB a mere FX5200 and pioneer 111DBK and audigy 2 value with massive speakers
[09:40] <techmad> hehe
[09:40] <JuhazOne> thx. -->
[09:40] <techmad> boxgamex: just copy the wow cd's to your hdd
[09:40] <boxgamex> avis, man you card is holding you back
[09:40] <boxgamex> i do techmad
[09:40] <techmad> boxgamex: makes it 10x easyer
[09:40] <boxgamex> its still slow
[09:40] <boxgamex> lol
[09:41] <legendarysim> Can I get some help please?
[09:41] <techmad> boxgamex: then what i do for updates since i got windows on my laptop still i update in windows and copy all the the Warcraft folder over to the linux one
[09:41] <technician> kaot are u there ?
[09:41] <snoops> legendarysim ask the question and if someone knows, they'll help
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> technician: you can run the updates from wine itself.
[09:41] <techmad> boxgamex: thats the only time i boot into windows
[09:41] <boxgamex> why techmad? wont work in linux?
[09:42] <techmad> boxgamex: yea it works
[09:42] <avis> actually no it isn't my motherboard is because it doesn't have pci-e and i'm not going to shell out money for a video card that can be easily outdone on a pci-e video card for a fraction of the price plus i'm not too much of a gamer more into television, music, and videos.
[09:42] <techmad> boxgamex: but i might aswell you windows for something
[09:42] <boxgamex> ah avis
[09:42] <legendarysim> Well, I tried the Ubuntu live disk and there are problems configuring "X" on my system. I have an ATI X600 PCI-E 256MB video card if that helps.
[09:42] <boxgamex> lol techmad
[09:42] <boxgamex> if WoW works nice id probably delete windows
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> legendarysim: what kind of problems?
[09:42] <techmad> WoW works great
[09:43] <boxgamex> well, i mean on my system
[09:43] <legendarysim> fyrestrt: I't doesn't configure at all.
[09:43] <legendarysim> it*
[09:43] <techmad> boxgamex: i play in forced window mode which wow still thinks its in full screen but its in a window of your size choice
[09:43] <nol13> how do i tell what driver my wireless card is using?
[09:43] <legendarysim> fyrestrtr: There is like no configured GUI.
[09:43] <boxgamex> i like windowed mode techmad
[09:43] <boxgamex> lol
[09:44] <techmad> boxgamex: hehe i like wide screen but i gave that up i just play in 1024x768
[09:44] <Shizboom> anyone know any web browsers that use x11?
[09:44] <avis> boxgamex, it would be a very nice ubuntu box for 32 bit dual core but i can get a socket 775 for my ubuntu box that is dual core 3.2 for only $200 which is less than what my windows athlon x2 cpu cost.
[09:44] <boxgamex> yesh
[09:45] <legendarysim> those intel dual cores can be over clocked to pwn the x2 too :P
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> Shizboom: firefox, opera, epiphany.
[09:45] <techmad> i <3 the dual core in my laptop
[09:45] <avis> i dont overclock anything.
[09:45] <avis> i use value ram :)
[09:45] <techmad> ahh
[09:45] <techmad> :(
[09:45] <techmad> avis: that makes me a sad panda
[09:45] <legendarysim> ah these dual cores, with proper cooling can do 4.0ish ghz
[09:45] <avis> hehe i'm not a gamer like i said...
[09:45] <Shizboom> firefox uses x11?
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> Shizboom: do you know what x11 is?
[09:46] <avis> techmad, i'll have the zoo get on it asap
[09:46] <Shizboom> no :P
[09:46] <narfmaster> Shizboom, Dillo uses GTK 1.2
[09:46] <techmad> avis: :(
[09:46] <samuli> I think you're all nuts with your crazy computers, it's not a drag race, you know.
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> Shizboom: then why do you ask?
[09:46] <techmad> samuli: omg yes it is
[09:46] <snoops> legendarysim isn't that only the 830 or 850 or whatever it was that was extremely overclockable?
[09:46] <samuli> :D
[09:46] <npk> hello, I'm looking for a little help getting smp support enabled in dapper
[09:46] <crimsun> npk: which cpu do you have?
[09:46] <Shizboom> well this program says it will put any x11 application into a panel
[09:46] <legendarysim> I think the 810 could 4.1ghz.
[09:47] <npk> 2 athlons k7
[09:47] <legendarysim> My 820 can do 4.0ghz.
[09:47] <crimsun> npk: install linux-k7
[09:47] <narfmaster> Shizboom, that's like saying any graphical app
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> "ooh ooh yes yes I overclocked my cpu to 4.2Ghz by moving to Alaska where it is really cold" -- what do you do with it? "Play solitaire" *head on desk*
[09:47] <crimsun> npk: then reboot into the new kernel.
[09:47] <samuli> fyrestrtr, to me it's like that :)
[09:47] <npk> crimsun: apt-get install linux-k7-smp is all I need?
[09:47] <legendarysim> I don't think Alaska can cool a 4.1ghz CPU.
[09:48] <crimsun> npk: no. linux-k7
[09:48] <techmad> have you seen the video of the guy that oc'ed his cpu to 4ghz then took the hsf off
[09:48] <boxgamex> yeah
[09:48] <boxgamex> the amd
[09:48] <avis> npk, search synaptic for kernel, chose your architechture for your kernels and grab your sources it should also fetch restricted modules as a dependency.  it should indicate smp.  after apply you'll need to reboot.  magic !
[09:48] <Shizboom> i don't know how to get it to work tho
[09:48] <boxgamex> techmad, duron i believe it was
[09:48] <dabaR> Hi. My original login, the sudoer one, has sound in his gnome d. environment. Other, later added users have no sound. Any ideas as to why?
[09:48] <enyc> mee~de~boop
[09:48] <legendarysim> So, does anyone know how to configure these graphics? It wasn't this difficult last time.
[09:48] <crimsun> dabaR: add them to the audio group.
[09:48] <samuli> and other people go for 500$ water-coolers and stuff to make their computers more silent.. why doesn't anyone go.. now.. How could I make this louder? :)
[09:48] <avis> npk, yes if its athlon
[09:48] <techmad> boxgamex: yea funny stuff blows a hole in the table and mobo
[09:48] <fyrestrtr> dabaR: add the user to the audio group
[09:48] <boxgamex> yup
[09:48] <avis> npk, or amd rather
[09:49] <boxgamex> well. im gonna hit the sack
[09:49] <boxgamex> its 3:47 am here
[09:49] <boxgamex> lol
[09:49] <narfmaster> samuli, you could use a jet engine as a cooler :)
[09:49] <holycow> !frequency
[09:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about frequency
[09:49] <legendarysim> Or Liquid Nitrogen :P
[09:49] <enyc> meep
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> narfmaster: as a *cooler*? Exactly what part of a jet engine assembly screams cool?
[09:49] <holycow> !frequency-scaling
[09:49] <techmad> samuli: i had a fan that was so loud hah gotta remember the name of it
[09:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about frequency-scaling
[09:49] <holycow> !cpu
[09:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about cpu
[09:49] <samuli> narfmaster, I'm not sure what kind of enclosure would I need to make it stay put :)
[09:49] <nosotros> i need help, i just rebooted and audio stoped working
[09:49] <techmad> !life
[09:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about life
[09:49] <narfmaster> fyrestrtr, that would keep the air flow solid
[09:50] <legendarysim> I had a thermaltake fan for my old althlon 2700 that was really loud. 5200 PRM.
[09:50] <avis> i want maximum fairflow to my cpu at all times no smart bios adjustments for me.
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> probably blow the wall out too
[09:50] <dabaR> crimsun: why not a default setting?
[09:50] <legendarysim> Big fan too >.<
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> !msgthebot
[09:50] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[09:50] <npk> while I'm dealing with the kernel, I have an old wintv card, works with the bttv driver. Any idea if this will be supported, or if I'll need to recompile?
[09:50] <techmad> samuli: it was a delta fan
[09:50] <samuli> I think my hard-drive is making up 90% of the noise in my computer.
[09:51] <techmad> samuli: glad my laptop doesnt make any sound
[09:51] <samuli> techmad, got to remember that name I guess :)
[09:51] <nosotros> i need help, i just rebooted and audio stoped working
[09:51] <legendarysim> samuli: Ugh my SATA2 is too loud >.<
[09:51] <techmad> samuli: i can hear my mouse wheel scroll
[09:51] <crimsun> dabaR: audio is not a necessity. If you feel it's a bug, please file one.
[09:51] <Linux-Hyper> 20 : Multiboot kernel must be loaded before modules
[09:51] <Linux-Hyper>     This error is returned if the module load command is used before loading a Multiboot kernel. It only makes sense in this case anyway, as GRUB has no idea how to communicate the presence of location of such modules to a non-Multiboot-aware kernel.
[09:51] <Linux-Hyper> opps
[09:51] <snoops> crimsun ha.. it is if you want to do audio production
[09:51] <Linux-Hyper> thought that would be a 1 liner.
[09:51] <JuhazOne> hum. do i need to reinstall grub for changes in devices.map to take effect?
[09:51] <Linux-Hyper> ahh thats my grub-install error.
[09:51] <Linux-Hyper> how can i resolve this it makes no sense
[09:52] <samuli> legendarysim, I know about the harddrives, that sound is making me crazy. I think the bearing is off.
[09:52] <dabaR> crimsun: I guess less people need it than not.
[09:52] <crimsun> snoops: and it is not if I create a restricted user.
[09:52] <technician> hi i am on the last step where i am trying to change the value of /proc/sys/net/ipv4/route/gc_timeout and it as do you really want to write the value
[09:52] <samuli> techmad, me too, but it's only because it's loud :)
[09:52] <JuhazOne> what i noticed was that what i wrote in devices.map seemed to have no effect at all on how grub behaved
[09:52] <technician> i am trying to create a failover router
[09:52] <legendarysim> samuli: I got this LOUD spinning noise. My first time having a 7,200 RPM drive.
[09:52] <crimsun> snoops: the point is "don't assume you need more privileges by default"
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> legendarysim: try a 10,000 RPM one.
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> sounds like a 747 is about to take off
[09:53] <crimsun> snoops: again, you're free and welcome to file a bug
[09:53] <legendarysim> fyrestrtr: I hope this mobo can't handle one ^^
[09:53] <JuhazOne> when i tried booting from (hd0,0) i got Error 15: File not found
[09:53] <JuhazOne> it said the fs type is 0xc, meaning fat32?
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> JuhazOne: that's probably not your boot partition then.
[09:53] <legendarysim> fyrestrtr: Don't they make faster than 10,000 RPM these days?
[09:53] <snoops> crimsun what? I was just making a comment about audio is not a necessity to you
[09:53] <nosotros> could anybody help me?
[09:53] <techmad> im going to put some dual 80gig 7200 drives into my laptop soon
[09:53] <JuhazOne> that's what /dev/hda1 is
[09:53] <dion_> hey everyone I'm trying to install this screen saver, and the link says use apt-get and links to a file dir on the net, what should I be doing?
[09:53] <snoops> crimsun you have me confused with someone else?
[09:53] <dion_> http://www.electricsheep.org/index.cgi?&menu=download
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> legendarysim: I've heard of 15,000 RPMs, but they are ... low capacity.
[09:53] <technician> hi i am trying to create a failover router
[09:53] <technician> hi i am on the last step where i am trying to change the value of /proc/sys/net/ipv4/route/gc_timeout and it as do you really want to write the value
[09:53] <Shizboom> what is the command to see where a program is installed?
[09:53] <avis> snoops, that is a relative opinion.  audio is a necessity to many people
[09:53] <docta_v> legendarysim: only scsi and fibre channel are 15k rpm... SATA is only 10k
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> dion_: where is this page you are reading?
[09:54] <crimsun> snoops: no, I'm not confusing you. I'm "responding" to your response.
[09:54] <legendarysim> fyrestrtr: Well, the 10,000RPM drivers were like 74GB for the longest time >.< I think now you can get 140GB
[09:54] <snoops> avis yep that's the point I was trying to make :)
[09:54] <dion_> http://www.electricsheep.org/index.cgi?&menu=download
[09:54] <xnull-> what is the module to write on ntfs ?
[09:54] <legendarysim> drives*
[09:54] <oskude> Shizboom, which command/programname
[09:55] <Shizboom> thjanks
[09:55] <dion_> I was selecting debian linux
[09:55] <avis> i must be ill.  i got nicks mixed up.
[09:55] <nosotros> please help me, i get no audio, and all i did was rebooting
[09:55] <kaot> technician: according to the howto, yes, you really want to change the value.
[09:55] <legendarysim> Has anyone been able to use Linux successfully with an ATI Rafron x600?
[09:55] <legendarysim> Radeon*
[09:55] <narfmaster> Shizboom, dpkg -L program
[09:55] <techmad> fyrestrtr: they have 147gb 15,000k drives but they are 700$
[09:55] <technician> 300 kaot is how much actually ? 300 seconds ?
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> dion_: download the .deb file, and install it using dpgk -i filename.deb
[09:56] <legendarysim> fyrestrtrL I wonder what 15k RPM sounds like.
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> dion_: download the correct one for your arch
[09:56] <crimsun> nosotros: paste the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer'' onto http://pastebin.ca
[09:56] <crimsun> nosotros: then tell us the URL
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> legendarysim: a constant buzzing that gets louder if you do rendering or database access.
[09:56] <avis> dion_,  its dpkg, actually
[09:56] <JuhazOne> oh dear...
[09:56] <technician> kaot when i try to write it gives error E667: Fsync failed
[09:56] <dion_> hmmmm, allright thanksfyrestrtr, and avis
[09:56] <JuhazOne> ic56, snoops, others: any idea what to try next?
[09:57] <snoops> Juhaz I suggest waht to follow ages ago.. following a grub recovery guide and manually installing on the right hdd, and choosing the right partition
[09:57] <bluelite28> random question, what's the DOS equivelant of 'chmod' ?
[09:57] <dion_> now what if there isnt one that matches exactly?
[09:57] <legendarysim> General Question: If I have a 64-bit processor should I stick with the 32-bit version of Ubuntu or actually use the 64-bt version?
[09:57] <crimsun> there isn't one, bluelite28.
[09:57] <bluelite28> is there one to change file permissions?
[09:57] <JuhazOne> snoops: i checked the link you gave but i didn't see how it could help me get the (hd?) part right :/
[09:58] <ideogram> how do I play streaming audio in Windows Media format?
[09:58] <crimsun> bluelite28: no. attrib is a mutt of both of those.
[09:58] <samuli> JuhazOne, your tried the re-mapping?
[09:58] <Sencer> @legendarysim: Unles you have more than 4 GB RAM, stick with 32 bit
[09:58] <pharcvde> i use the 64bit
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> legendarysim: stick with 32
[09:58] <bluelite28> lol windows sucks
[09:58] <JuhazOne> samuli: yeah. i was wondering whether it requires reinstalling grub
[09:58] <ideogram> I didn't pick the format, I just want to play it
[09:58] <legendarysim> Sencer: I don't there ths MOBO handles 4GB lol.
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> !restrictedformats > ideogram
[09:58] <JuhazOne> samuli: because it didn't appear to have any effect whatsoever on how grub behaved
[09:58] <oskude> anyone else having 404 when trying to do update (im using de.archive.ubuntu.com) ?
[09:58] <samuli> JuhazOne, I doubt that.
[09:59] <snoops> legendarysim I'd go with 32bit version.. eg no flash for 64bit, no wine for 64bit, no wine for 64bit etc.. you can get the 32bit ones working, but in my opinion it's not worth the hastle
[09:59] <Sencer> there#s not really much of an advantage unles for very specific software, on 64 bit.
[09:59] <JuhazOne> i told (hd1) is /dev/hda and (hd0) is /dev/sda but it still booted happily off (hd0,5) that SHOULD have been /dev/sda5 (that is not bootable) but still was /dev/hda5
[09:59] <Sencer> it can even be slower than 32bit
[10:00] <samuli> JuhazOne, Anyways, I think so many people are trying to help you out because nobody really knows what the heck's the solution, so good luck :)
[10:00] <Vyoming> anyone has a driver for a SisM650 video card ? the free driver at http://www.winischhofer.eu/linuxsispart4.shtml#download is very slow
[10:00] <JuhazOne> samuli: :)
[10:00] <narfmaster> oskude, they rotate the servers around - you might have to wait for a DNS update
[10:00] <Vyoming> there is also a commercial version available there
[10:00] <legendarysim> This new machine I have had the Intel EM64T (or whatever) technology. Thouht I may ask if it's valuable to put to use,
[10:00] <technician> kaot are u there ?
[10:00] <technician> kaot got any solution ?
[10:01] <oskude> narfmaster, yup, i waited for 30mins, well gotta wait more :)
[10:01] <snoops> legendarysim and if you're going to use it as a server, then I'd definitely agree with you.. imo 64bit is not ready for an easy to use desktop yet
[10:01] <jamesconf> Hi, I am looking for boot loader options to select the Xorg drive
[10:01] <avis> dion_, try enabling universe and multiverse in your sources.list file and try to apt-get install electricsheep.   if that doesn't work, this is highly experimental, add the repository that that webpage lists for the .deb and do a single apt-get update and then a single apt-get install electricsheep.  thats only if its not already in ubuntu.  or just compile from source you'd need build-essentials package from the repos.  regardless -- if you use
[10:01] <avis>  the debian repo be CERTAIN if it doesn't work to apt-get remove electricsheep and then immediately remove that repository from /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:01] <JuhazOne> if it's of any help to you, i've got Promise 20378 and VIA VT8237 RAID controllers on this mobo. i don't actually even know which one i'm using :S
[10:01] <JuhazOne> and i don't know why there are two of them on the mobo.
[10:02] <narfmaster> jamesconf, you mean the framebuffer options?
[10:02] <legendarysim> snoops: They probably just want to make a 64-bit processor standard until the day comes :x.
[10:02] <avis> dion_, then do a apt-get update once again after ubuntu is all back in order repo-like
[10:02] <JuhazOne> i'm not sure but it's possible that the sata support comes from either of those two controllers
[10:02] <dion_> hmm, this is all a bit much for my first day of linux use
[10:02] <dion_> lol
[10:02] <legendarysim> dion_: I remember my first day.
[10:03] <frogzoo> narfmaster: what exactly extra does frame buffer support provide?
[10:03] <jamesconf> narfmaster,options to pick the Xorg drive, I assume it does some magic and attempts to pick one, which in this case is the wrong one.
[10:03] <legendarysim> dion_: My friend was nearly killing himself because I didn't understand 100% of the concepts :)
[10:03] <samuli> dion_, it's frustrating for the next few months so don't worry :)
[10:03] <Vyoming> looking for help with SisM650 video driver - I'm could not get hardware acceleration
[10:03] <avis> dion okies np just open terminal then go sudo -i then type your personal password, then try apt-get install electricsheep.  also familiarize yourself with synaptic.
[10:03] <narfmaster> frogzoo, there is a kernel option anyway (don't know that much about it)
[10:03] <ic56> JuhazOne: you need to read up on grub.  As a quick test, try renaming the map file and test booting again.  Maybe the map file and the BIOS aren't cooperating the way we think
[10:04] <legendarysim> I'm so used to Windows that if Linux didn't have a GUI I'd be pretty damn lost.
[10:04] <dion_> avis i've got synaptic down to an extent
[10:04] <avis> dion, next step, learn about universe and multiverse in the official ubuntu documentation.  there is some fun stuff there :)
[10:04] <samuli> ic56, exactly my thoughts.
[10:04] <JuhazOne> ic56: should i get an error if i do that?
[10:04] <frogzoo> narfmaster: cool, thx anyway
[10:04] <narfmaster> frogzoo, it provides the resolution for the console mode
[10:04] <avis> ok well you can add sources through it but i've found it cumbersome rather than commandline but if you learn it, i hope you get the idea.
[10:04] <technician> anyone can help i am facing a last minute issue i cannot change the value of a process /proc/sys/net/ipv4/route/gc_timeout ????????
[10:04] <dion_> me as well legendarysim, its funny how you can know EVERYTHING in windows, and cant even proform basic functions in linux
[10:04] <technician> i cannot overwrite the value ?
[10:04] <technician> please help
[10:05] <st_iron> bye
[10:05] <dion_> avis, so universe and multiverse are more directories of software and what not?
[10:05] <trulux> moin
[10:05] <trulux> any sparc64 user around?
[10:05] <avis> dion_, yes a larger repository.
[10:05] <JuhazOne> oh well. will try that now
[10:05] <legendarysim> Those cores are expensive :o
[10:05] <trulux> I'm trying to get a ubuntu-server installation on a Sun Netra X1
[10:05] <SGershon> I'm having much trouble installing Office through wine. Anyone succeeded in doing that?
[10:05] <SGershon> (I know, there is Open Office... I love it too. But I need some program that read PST mail files -- like Outlook)
[10:05] <oskude> technician, are you sure you can change the values ? i thought they are only for reading... but dunno
[10:06] <cntb> dion you dont know everything in windows
[10:06] <technician> oskude i really dont know first time trying
[10:06] <technician> oskude as mentioned in the tutorial
[10:06] <nol13> hi, how do i tell what driver my wireless card is using?
[10:06] <oskude> technician, could you give me the link ?
[10:06] <holycow> does anyone know of a decent how to enable cpu frequency scaling?  nothing on wiki, google results in some sparse info
[10:06] <legendarysim> cntb: It wasn't stated.
[10:06] <avis> dion.. if you open terminal.. go nano /etc/apt/sources.list and look for all lines ending in universe.   if you find one add a single word then continue down the list. "multiverse"  the key is to look for an existing universe
[10:06] <matteo> hi all
[10:07] <ic56> does grub ship with any serious documentation?  the manpage is minimal (just the options) and the info page is just a mirror of the manpage.  What's up with that?
[10:07] <matteo> is it possible to install ubuntu via internet using one or two minimal floppy at boot ^
[10:07] <avis> dion, next step, apt-get update !  more selections !
[10:07] <dion_> Yay got it
[10:07] <SGershon> I tried to follow many guides on installing Office with wine. But I get weird errors!
[10:07] <Vyoming> looking for help with SisM650 video driver - I could not get any hardware acceleration with the driver provided at http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsispart4.shtml#download
[10:07] <legendarysim> Has anyone successfully used a wireless card (USB) on Ubuntu?
[10:08] <ic56> JuhazOne: we're hoping things will start working if you remove the map file.  Ie, the mapfile was confusing grub.
[10:08] <dion_> selected mutltiverse and universe repositories and then used apt-get install electricsheep
[10:08] <avis> legendarysim, i have.. a long long time ago.  it never worked since.  despite swapping wifi cards.
[10:08] <narfmaster> legendarysim, Ubuntu has lots of support for wireless USB out of box
[10:08] <dion_> thanks for your help guys
[10:08] <ideogram> this web radio station has something called Nullsoft Shoutcast format, how do I play that?
[10:08] <shachaf_> matteo: I've installed Debian (woody) that way. I don't know if it's possible in Ubuntu.
[10:08] <avis> dion_, enjoy ubuntu
[10:08] <webdude1> will installation of crossover office make my current installation of ubuntu 6.06 unstable at all?
[10:08] <trulux> someone that can solve my doubts regarding ubuntu-sparc?
[10:08] <narfmaster> just don't expect it to work in the majority of cases
[10:08] <dion_> ahh yes Wireless lan will prolly be my project for tommorrow
[10:08] <dion_> I sure intend to avis
[10:08] <ideogram> It's a .pls extension
[10:08] <Vyoming> ideogram, you can use xmms
[10:09] <avis> goodnite dion :)
[10:09] <dion_> I'm sure I'll be bugging you guys in this channel for the next serveral weeks so i hope you dont mind
[10:09] <dion_> lol
[10:09] <Vyoming>  looking for help with SisM650 video driver - I could not get any hardware acceleration with the driver provided at http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsispart4.shtml#download
[10:09] <legendarysim> So, does anyone know how to get the Radeon X600 to work on Ubuntu?
[10:09] <ideogram> I clicked on it and it downloaded something and popped up Rhythmbox but that didn't work
[10:09] <avis> i certainly dont ...
[10:09] <ideogram> do I have to install xmms?
[10:09] <dion_> awesome, well good night to ya avis
[10:09] <dion_> as well as everyone else
[10:09] <avis> danke !
[10:09] <matteo> shachaf i'm trying too..but is it possible to install ONLY minimal with floppy?
[10:10] <lowfi> ideogram, .pls is winamp playlist, the streams should work in vlc &mplayer
[10:10] <Vyoming> ideogram - goto synaptics package manager
[10:10] <legendarysim> Deutsch?
[10:10] <avis> nope
[10:10] <Vyoming> and search for xmms and install
[10:10] <avis> english
[10:10] <technician> kaot it is working without changing the value
 danke ! <--- Deutsch
[10:10] <Vyoming>  looking for help with SisM650 video driver - I could not get any hardware acceleration with the driver provided at http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsispart4.shtml#download
[10:10] <ideogram> are vlc or mplayer installed already?
[10:10] <avis> all i know how to say in german is good night, silent night, and thank you
[10:10] <matteo> shachaf cause when insert floppy and start installation, it connect to internet and begin to download automatically many many mb..i would want to install ONLY minimal, like floppy
[10:11] <gdb> matteo: a minimal system install for ubuntu is far far larger than what would fit on a floppy.
 danke ! = Thanks   dankeschn = Thank You
[10:11] <avis> ok.
[10:11] <avis> i'll be informal :)
[10:11] <gdb> danke = thank you, danke schone = thank you very much
[10:12] <Shizboom> is there anyway to make a panel bigger then 125 pixels wide?
[10:12] <matteo> gdb is it possible to install minimal floppy of debian, and then install ubuntu via apt-get ?
[10:12] <avis> i'm allowed to i wear birkenstocks whatever the occasion or season ;)
[10:12] <lowfi> ideogram, not out of the box. do: sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:12] <holycow> !governors
[10:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about governors
[10:12] <legendarysim> gdb: I must have learned something wrong down the word...
[10:12] <shachaf> matteo: I don't know, then. Sorry. :-(
[10:12] <holycow> !governor
[10:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about governor
[10:12] <legendarysim> road
[10:12] <gdb> matteo: No, you can't really go from Debian to Ubuntu.
[10:12] <Kanpachi> hello, i'm trying to install vmplayer and i keep getting this error "/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/Makefile:91: *** For proper build you'll have to replace gcc -m32 with symbolic link to /usr/bin/gcc-4.0.  Stop." i have gcc 4.0 installed, what do i do please?
[10:13] <khaije1> what do i use if i need to simultaneously search for multiple strings in a file in order to output to a file?
[10:13] <cps> Kanpachi: where are you installing it from?
[10:13] <Kanpachi> my home dir
[10:13] <oskude> Kanpachi, youre not installing, youre compiling...
[10:13] <legendarysim> avis: Ah! They both work.
[10:13] <avis> ok
[10:13] <Kanpachi> really? i was using the installation file
[10:14] <cps> Kanpachi: because vmware player is available in the repositories
[10:14] <Kanpachi> really?
[10:14] <legendarysim> I used my trusty dictiobnary ^^ LOL
[10:14] <Kanpachi> i had no idea
[10:14] <cps> Kanpachi: yeah, if you are using 6.06
[10:14] <Kanpachi> i am
[10:14] <ryan_> I was in the middle of an ubuntu upgrade and the computer was restarted
[10:14] <gdb> khaije1: egrep
[10:14] <oskude> Kanpachi, packages.ubuntu.com
[10:14] <Kanpachi> oh there
[10:14] <ryan_> Now everything is funky
[10:14] <Kanpachi> thanx
[10:14] <legendarysim> Could I get better graphics capabilities using X86 over x64?
[10:14] <cps> Kanpachi: do you have universe and multiverse enabled
[10:15] <ryan_> How can I start the update program?
[10:15] <gdb> khaije1: $ egrep 'term1|term2|term3' filename > outfile
[10:15] <Kanpachi> yes i found it
[10:15] <avis> ryan_, you might want to check your power connectors and run memtest86 for an hour
[10:15] <Kanpachi> thanx
[10:15] <avis> make sure no metal is making contact with motherboard
[10:15] <ryan_> I think there is a problem because it was quit mid-update
[10:15] <khaije1> gdb: hmm.. excellent ty!
[10:15] <gdb> khaije1: sure thing!
[10:16] <ideogram> ok I've installed xmms and am running it
[10:16] <ryan_> What is the terminal command to launch the update util?
[10:16] <ryan_> apt get or something like that?
[10:16] <ideogram> how do I tell it to use the url for the web radio station?
[10:16] <avis> ryan_, if you update your repo cache its not going to bring your machine down] 
[10:16] <oskude> ryan_, sudo apt-get update
[10:16] <Vyoming>  looking for help with SisM650 video driver - I could not get any hardware acceleration with the driver provided at http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsispart4.shtml#download
[10:16] <gdb> ryan_: apt-get update (to update your apt cache) then apt-get upgrade to upgrade any necessary packages.
[10:16] <cntb> mime mp3 to vlc --- howto ?
[10:16] <legendarysim> Could I get better graphics capabilities using X86 over x64?
[10:16] <sdk> ideogram: ctry ctrl+l and paste the address
[10:16] <cntb> !mime
[10:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about mime
[10:17] <narfmaster> vlc is an app, not a file format
[10:17] <cntb> narfmaster
[10:17] <cntb> OK
[10:17] <ideogram> it's not working
[10:18] <avis> legendarysim, i know the higher powered dual x2's were originally marketed to hardcore gamers.  i'd say go with x64 for windows games.
[10:18] <cntb>  narfmaster if you want click open mp3 file to be played by VLC or xmms not movie player what do u do ?
[10:18] <SomiKnight> anyone tried to use jtag util from openwince package?
[10:18] <sdk> ideogram: so you need some codecs
[10:18] <snoops> avis I don't think x2's were marketed for gmaes at all, considering the absolute majority of windows games are single threaded
[10:18] <narfmaster> cntb, right-click and select "Properties" then "Open with"
[10:19] <cntb> can I do it in krusader?
[10:19] <legendarysim> snoops: I don't think that's true. But I may be wrong.
[10:19] <ideogram> do I need libmikmod.so.2?
[10:19] <narfmaster> hmm, krusader is a little different (i'm not sure about that one)
[10:19] <cntb> sorry narfmaster that I knew
[10:19] <snoops> legendarysim heh, it definitely is true.. I've got a dual core
[10:19] <cntb> that is not called changing default
[10:20] <cntb> default gib
[10:20] <snoops> oblivion is one of the first games to make use of dual core, I believe doom 3 had an smp mod for it
[10:20] <avis> i know many of the more popular recent games had been given patches to run better on 64 bit and dual core platforms.  or at least last time i looked into that sort of thing.   the pci-e spec was adopted on amd64 platform way before it was on intel machines.  which means nothing except linux coders have to catch up.
[10:20] <legendarysim> snoops: I seems to be computing information from both cores but Windows may not know what it's talking about.
[10:20] <cntb> default gives eror cause it does not have the plugin but vlsc and xmms play alright
[10:21] <cntb> so changing default open is preferable
[10:21] <cntb> open with is a smart workaround not solyution
[10:21] <legendarysim> That's probably why my graphics aren't working then. Intel PCI-E graphics >.<
[10:21] <avis> linux likes via.
[10:21] <narfmaster> cntb, it works for me :)
[10:22] <avis> my intel celeron d ubuntu machine is a via chipset.
[10:22] <snoops> legendarysim run something like halflife.. then alt tab to desktop and check the performance - you'll notice one core is taking 100% while the other is idling.. it is handy to set the affinity for your services and other apps to one core, then game on the other though :)
[10:22] <snoops> halflife 2 rather*
[10:22] <Vyoming>  looking for help with SisM650 video driver - I could not get any hardware acceleration with the driver provided at http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsispart4.shtml#download
[10:22] <cntb> narfmaster: 10x anyway
[10:22] <ryan_> How do I fix this?
[10:22] <legendarysim> snoops: Jusy HL2 only?
[10:22] <snoops> legendarysim no, just as an example
[10:22] <ryan_> unable to lock the administration directory, is another process using it?
[10:22] <cntb> I am out preparing dual boot for customer
[10:23] <legendarysim> legendarysim: Well I was going to pop in The Sims to now. A lot easier >.<
[10:23] <avis> snoops thanks for clarifing i dont like believing something that isn't true.
[10:23] <legendarysim> Actually SimCity would load faster >.<
[10:24] <SomiKnight> anyone tried to use jtag util from openwince package?
[10:24] <ryan_> Whenever I try to update it tells me the processes are already in progress
[10:24] <ryan_> What can I do?
[10:24] <zcat[1] > !upgrade
[10:24] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[10:24] <ryan_> It is impossible to install or remove any software
[10:24] <snoops> no worries avis
[10:25] <avis> snoops, well i'm glad you said that and i read your reply to him because i almost skipped over it and felt like a fool
[10:25] <snoops> on that note, now can I set the affinity for an application in linux?
[10:25] <narfmaster> ryan_, what else is running?
[10:25] <DBO> ryan_, if you are sure no package managers are open "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock"
[10:26] <DBO> ryan_, but be SURE no other package managers are running
[10:26] <gdb> ryan_: do you have anything like update manager, add/remove software, or synaptic running?
[10:26] <avis> anyway i'd dual cored on a mere 2.2ghz with large cache on earlier ubuntu's and it rocked.  x2 4200 processor.
[10:26] <legendarysim> snoops: I'm getting 30-40% from each core?
[10:27] <snoops> legendarysim did you install that new plugin from amd?
[10:27] <snoops> which is supposed to spread the load over single threaded applications
[10:27] <legendarysim> snoops: Intel Dual Core not AMD
[10:27] <snoops> ah right
[10:27] <snoops> I'd say intel have something similar then
[10:27] <ryan_> nothing else is running but the terminal
[10:27] <snoops> avis yeah I use a 4400+ x2
[10:27] <legendarysim> I wish I would have gotten AMD
[10:27] <ryan_> if it is, is there a process monitor where I could tell?
[10:27] <Afief> Has anybody here succeded in compiling Gweled?
[10:27] <bertu> hey
[10:27] <legendarysim> But I couldn't get much for $800
[10:28] <avis> snoops, most excellent.  our price ranges haven't seemed to have changed since last christmas.
[10:28] <bertu> i have a problem with amarok
[10:28] <bertu> can someone help me?
[10:28] <gdb> There is no point in setting affinity on my CPUs. ;-)
[10:28] <avis> at least for the 4200
[10:28] <Afief> bertu: state your problem then wait
[10:28] <clay__> whats a good way to make my system automount devices?
[10:28] <gdb> (It's an HT not dual core)
[10:28] <DBO> ryan_, "ps -e | grep synaptic || ps -e | grep apt || ps -e | grep aptitude || echo tell dbo"
[10:28] <DBO> ryan_, if it echos "tell dbo" tell me
[10:29] <legendarysim> EEW HT CPU's
[10:29] <Vyoming>  looking for help with SisM650 video driver - I could not get any hardware acceleration with the driver provided at http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsispart4.shtml#download
[10:29] <bertu> ok, does amarok have a function that speeds up music...if yes how can i turn t off
[10:29] <clay__> l
[10:29] <avis> gdb, HT is dual core emulation not a dual core processor  though some dual cores do have HT
[10:29] <gdb> avis: I think that's what I just said. ;-)
[10:29] <avis> heh
[10:29] <avis> sorry
[10:29] <legendarysim> avis: Dual core plus HT is one helluva processor then.
[10:29] <avis> i'm dumb
[10:29] <oskude> Vyoming, i flew over that site, sure there is hardware acceleration in the free version ? or do you have the premium version ?
[10:29] <SGershon> Any sugestions for reading PST files?
[10:29] <gdb> :-D
[10:30] <avis> looks like a  pentium d 940 is in my future then :)
[10:30] <JuhazOne> ic56: renaming the devices.map file didn't have any effect at all :/
[10:30] <ryan_> it seems to have printed a list of running commands
[10:30] <snoops> avis that has virtualization too :)
[10:30] <legendarysim> I like the P4 D series
[10:30] <legendarysim> The 940 is even better.
[10:30] <ryan_> but no dbob
[10:30] <ryan_> dbo
[10:30] <legendarysim> 4MB L2 cache.
[10:30] <ideogram> can anyone play this radio station http://www.c895worldwide.com/web/
[10:30] <Vyoming> oskude - I downloaded the free version but it is not giving any improvement over the default FB driver that Ubuntu used
[10:30] <gdb> DBO: Don't you mean ps -e | grep synaptic || ps -e | grep apt || ps -e | grep apte && echo tell dbo ?
[10:30] <ryan_> no "tell dbo"
[10:31] <avis> yes i though that rocked the amd cpu but i could not understand the price range comparing to my x2 4200
[10:31] <DBO> gdb, no if you do an && at the end it will only do it if it finds aptitude
[10:31] <DBO> ryan_, it appears you have a package manager running somewhere
[10:31] <number_six> hi all
[10:31] <ryan_> how can I quit it?
[10:31] <gdb> DBO: Ah, you wanted it to say tell dbo if it didn't find anything.
[10:31] <ic56> JuhazOne: bummer.  Thanks for letting me know.  Rename it back and invest some time in reading up on grub.  If you figure out a solution later on, /msg memoserv send ic56 <your message> and let me know.  I'll remember the answer for future questionners...
[10:31] <oskude> Vyoming, well, you better ask the makers...
[10:31] <DBO> gdb, right
[10:32] <Vyoming> Ya .. I sent a mail to the author .. but he never replied
[10:32] <legendarysim> avis: Those X2 4200 cost so much because AMD charges more for the CPU's with larger than 1MB caches.
[10:32] <JuhazOne> uhh... ok
[10:32] <number_six> anybody can help me about kernel compiling?
[10:32] <Vyoming> that's why I turned up here
[10:32] <Vyoming> anyways thanks
[10:32] <bertu> Afief:....Have I waited enough?
[10:32] <ryan_> How do I quit the process?
[10:32] <Vyoming> I'm  getting used to things on FB
[10:33] <oskude> Vyoming, and did you read this "Once again: There is no DRI/OpenGL/3D support for the SiS 6326, 5597/5598, 530/620, 315, 550, 650, 651, 740, 330, 661, 741, 760, 761 including all model variations with letters in the model number."
[10:33] <DBO> ryan_, I suggest finding where it is and seeing what its doing
[10:33] <snoops> avis interested in knowing how to set the affinity for an app in linux?
[10:33] <legendarysim> Has anyone tried UT2004 in Linux?
[10:33] <ryan_> How do I find where it is and see what it is doing?
[10:33] <DBO> ryan_, otherwise you can try a killall <name of process>, just be careful not to do a kill -9 or bad things might happen
[10:34] <Vyoming> ya .. I'm not looking for any kind of 3D acceleration .. I'm just hoping for some kind of hardware acceleration support for usual (2D) stuff
[10:34] <ryan_> If I restart my computer what will happen?
[10:34] <DBO> ryan_, hopefully the problem will be fixed
[10:34] <ryan_> I'll restart and see what happens
[10:34] <legendarysim> It will restart...?
[10:34] <ryan_> Hopefully the process won't start with the OS
[10:34] <gdb> DBO: Do the various package managers keep the lock file open or simply touch one?  If they keep it open, then fuser -k /path/to/lockfile should take care of it.
[10:35] <gdb> I don't think there is any need to reboot the machine, ryan_.
[10:35] <DBO> gdb, they touch it and remove it afaik...
[10:35] <gdb> Ah, ok.
[10:35] <ryan_> Well, I don't know which process is blocking access or how to stop it...
[10:35] <narfmaster> "/var/cache/apt/archives/lock"
[10:35] <ryan_> Would you like me to pastebin something for you to look at?
[10:36] <DBO> ryan_, ps -ef -> pastebin
[10:36] <DBO> narfmaster, thanks =P  I mentioned that a while ago =)
[10:36] <bertu> Who has amarok? Does amarok have a function that speeds up the speed of  music...if yes how can i turn t off??
[10:36] <SomiKnight> has anyone tried jtag util from oenwince package? i get cable not initialized error when doing cable ppdev /dev/parport0 WIGGLER .it works in slackware fine, i just like ubuntu better and need this jtag stuff
[10:37] <oskude> Vyoming, "Additionally, a Linux kernel framebuffer driver for some SiS and XGI graphics cards is available here as well. This driver is meant for more advanced users as its installation requires some knowledge about kernel configuration and compilation." ;)
[10:39] <legendarysim> Does anyone know how to make Ubuntu work on my X600 card?
[10:39] <SGershon> Sound configurations are hard. I hear sound on Totem Player, but not on the volume control on the panel. Also, no sound from flash sites.
[10:39] <SGershon> Where should I check/uncheck these settings?
[10:40] <oskude> Vyoming, this could be interesting: "Sidenote: Since this seems to be a commonly made mistake: sisfb and the kernel's VESA framebuffer driver cannot be active at the same time!"
[10:40] <Vyoming> Oskude .. thanks for all the trouble. But I'm not sure I can recompile a kernel
[10:40] <Vyoming> let me try posting on hte X.org mailing list
[10:40] <number_six> anybody can help me about kernel compiling?
[10:40] <oskude> Vyoming, do you really need a bigger text console as the standard ?
[10:41] <legendarysim> Do PCI sound card work well with Linux?
[10:41] <Vyoming> no .. I'm more comfortable in X than in console
[10:41] <oskude> legendarysim, yes, if the sound chip is supported by linux...
[10:41] <oskude> Vyoming, then you dont need that sisfb (frame buffer)
[10:42] <legendarysim> oskude: Can you direct me to somewhere where I can find what sound/video hardware is supported?
[10:42] <Vyoming> anyways this Framebuffer thing is also not that irritating .. just that I can not see youtube and google videos
[10:42] <narfmaster> Vyoming, that's flash
[10:42] <oskude> Vyoming, thats another issue...
[10:43] <Vyoming> oh .. whatever .. it's working but not as fast as Windows
[10:43] <giant_> has anybody experience with eclipse??
[10:43] <legendarysim> Vyoming: You shouldn't expect it to.
[10:43] <oskude> Vyoming, dunno if flash uses XV
[10:43] <Vyoming> oskude: I don't think it uses XV
[10:44] <SGershon> Why I have sound only in part of the applications?
[10:44] <bertu> MMM 10x for the quick help ;)
[10:44] <Vyoming> oskude: becuase realplayer is playing the videos fine
[10:44] <oskude> Vyoming, how fast is your cpu ? (flash just sucks)
[10:44] <legendarysim> Where can I find the supported hardware list?
[10:44] <Vyoming> my CPU is  2.4 Ghz
[10:44] <oskude> Vyoming, oh, well, that should be enough...
[10:44] <Vyoming> and I have 1GB ram with 64MB given to Shared Video card
[10:45] <Vyoming> ya .. it's not all that bad
[10:45] <Vyoming> infact all the apps are running just fine
[10:45] <oskude> legendarysim, i would just google with your audio chip...
[10:45] <Vyoming> the problem is just with those flash sites
[10:45] <Vyoming> oskude: one more thing if you donot mind
[10:45] <avis> flash 9 has not been ported to windows yet
[10:45] <avis> or rather to linux
[10:45] <SomiKnight> has anyone tried jtag util from oenwince package? i get cable not initialized error when doing cable ppdev /dev/parport0 WIGGLER .it works in slackware fine, i just like ubuntu better and need this jtag stuff
[10:46] <oskude> Vyoming, i dont use flash, so dunno...
[10:46] <Vyoming> oskude: realplayer is playing video but audio is not coming
[10:46] <Vyoming> let me grab a screen shot of the realplayer error
[10:46] <giant_> has anybody experience with eclipse??
[10:46] <oskude> Vyoming, do other audios work ?
[10:47] <oskude> Vyoming, could be that you just have to select the right audio device (/dev/dsp)
[10:47] <Vyoming> ya .. XMMS is working fine
[10:47] <oskude> Vyoming, and sure realplayer uses ALSA (as i dont use realplayer neither...)
[10:48] <oskude> !realplayer ;)
[10:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about realplayer ;)
[10:48] <oskude> !realplayer
[10:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:48] <oskude> sorry
[10:48] <avis> first did you apt-get the realplayer ?
[10:48] <giant_> has anybody experience with eclipse??
[10:48] <avis> if you did apt-get remove it and then install the .deb thats in the multimedia wiki
[10:48] <narfmaster> giant_, i have eclipse installed
[10:48] <Vyoming> realplayer is saying that device is being used by other application
[10:49] <SGershon> Is there any way where I can set sound 'globally'? I mean, some applications are mute, while some are playing sound. For example, Totem Player plays sound, but flash (Google Videos) does not (is silent).
[10:49] <Vyoming> I'm running ALSA .. and OSS
[10:49] <giant_> narfmaster, when i create a C++ project map, i get 2 errors
[10:49] <avis> its common for flash to be silent there are several solutions under mutlimedia in the ubuntu wiki
[10:49] <giant_> and i have no code yet
[10:49] <oskude> Vyoming, and is there another programm using audio device ?
[10:50] <bluesceada> hi
[10:50] <bluesceada> is there some blacklist for the modules who get loaded at boot ?
[10:50] <giant_> there's no rule to make target 'all' and there is no rule to make target 'clean'
[10:50] <Vyoming> Ya .. I stopped XMMS and I'm sure no other app is using the soundcard
[10:51] <oskude> Vyoming, then start realplayer new
[10:51] <Vyoming> is there any environment variable needed for RealPlayer
[10:51] <Vyoming> like AUDIO=/dev/dsp or something
[10:51] <narfmaster> giant_, did you make a "managed" project?
[10:51] <bluesceada> hm how can i install dmix ?
[10:51] <oskude> Vyoming, realplayers manual should say that. but i think its allso an option in realplayers preferences...
[10:51] <SGershon> avis, I'll check that.
[10:52] <avis> SGershon, you want the redundant bandwidth wasting way ?  apt-get install gstreamer0.8-* then do the same for gstreamer 0.10-*  then wget the win32 codecs in restricted formats in ubuntu wiki then dpkg -i that .deb package and see what doesn't work anymore ?   also set your gnome mixer to the soundcard you want to use and adjust levels
[10:52] <bluesceada> normally dmix should make it possible to use different programs with a non-hardware-mixing soundcard
[10:52] <giant_> narfmaster, no i have to make a standard project for a qt application
[10:52] <SGershon> avis, thanks! Let's read it...
[10:53] <maddash> !ubotu
[10:53] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:53] <narfmaster> giant_, i don't have any real experience in that (sorry)
[10:53] <giant_> np, thx anyway
[10:54] <maddash> kick
[10:54] <maft> jow
[10:54] <maft> I can't fill in my password in the terminal
[10:55] <maft> how do I deal with that
[10:55] <oskude> maft, it just doesnt show it ?
[10:55] <maft> yups
[10:55] <oskude> maft, thats normal
[10:55] <maddash> maft: what do you mean, "fill in"?
[10:55] <avis> does it take you to root when you sudo -i ?
[10:55] <maddash> maft: ditto oskude.
[10:55] <maft> well I am trying to add some codecs for music
[10:55] <maft> so I found a code
[10:55] <oskude> !enter
[10:55] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[10:55] <maft> and the terminal asks for my passwoord
[10:56] <maddash> maft: but?
[10:56] <dpn> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[10:56] <dpn> what does that mean
[10:56] <oskude> maft, and then you type your password in it (it wont be shown as you type) and press enter
[10:56] <narfmaster> dpn install build-essential
[10:56] <dpn> ok thanks
[10:56] <iknow45> I just installed the latest release of ubuntu dabber, and I can't find /etc/resolve.conf and I've been reading some articles online but can't really find hte reason for it to be missing, anyone have any ideas, because I need to get the dns servers in that file else I can get online with my static ip
[10:56] <maft> well if I write my pass downin the terminal where it says to, it doesn't do anything
[10:56] <maddash> maft: have you done, "sudo passwd" already?
[10:56] <avis> dpn, for what its worth, if needed you can download earlier version of compilers
[10:57] <dpn> Just trying to compile the xmms scrobbler plugin
[10:57] <maddash> maft: you need to set the password w/ "sudo passwd"
[10:57] <maft> it says: sorry, try again while I know it's correct
[10:58] <maddash> maft: try "sudo passwd"...it ought to ask for your password
[10:58] <dpn> Anyone here installed the last.fm plugin for xmms?
[10:58] <oskude> iknow45, dunno when its generated, maybe first then when you first start youre net card with dhcp. but you could make it your self, it looks like this "nameserver 195.50.140.178" in on line (but can be more lines with "nameserver x.x.x.x")
[10:58] <maft> thx maddash
[10:58] <maddash> maft: anytime.
[10:58] <maft> it will be needed :p
[10:59] <dpn> Whats the newest version of xmms
[10:59] <maddash> 10^7
[10:59] <iknow45> oskude, yea I tried to make my own resolve.conf but I still can't get online, I can ping locally within the network but I can't get out to the net still
[10:59] <avis> the latest ubuntu package is in the standard repos.
[10:59] <maddash> !maddash
[10:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about maddash
[10:59] <oskude> iknow45, you have a router that connects to the internet ? is it connected to internet ?
[11:00] <zcat[1] > !zcat
[11:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about zcat
[11:00] <iknow45> no, its connected to the internet directly
[11:00] <iknow45> I don't think it has anything to do with my VMware, but I have 4 other archlinux distros and they get out to the net fine
[11:00] <avis> iknow45, have you checked /etc/network/interfaces ?
[11:00] <bluesceada> hmm
[11:00] <iknow45> just needed to get a 2.4.x kernel for iscsi
[11:00] <bluesceada> i have media keys on the keyboard
[11:00] <oskude> iknow45, ah ok, then you have to connect to internet first. never done that, so dunno how to do that. try wiki and/or forum (but im pretty sure the ubotu knows something too)
[11:00] <vigilante> Im trying to gzip -d UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz gzip: UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz: unexpected end of file , and it fails, what is wrong here?
[11:00] <iknow45> yea the setttings in /etc/network/interfaces are correct
[11:00] <bluesceada> they make reactiions in "xev"
[11:01] <bluesceada> but i dont know how to use them else
[11:01] <bluesceada> anyone can help ?
[11:01] <benkyoto> hey anyone here who knows his/her way in xmcompmgr?
[11:01] <gorski> i have downloaded jdeveloper from oracle, does it work on ubunutu?
[11:01] <benkyoto> I want to prevent xcomp displaying shadows on desklets
[11:01] <oskude> iknow45, lol, maybe you should say that youre using vmware in the first plave, i have no idea about thaqt software.
[11:01] <iknow45> well it just emulates an environemtn to install
[11:02] <maddash> vigilante: the file's corrupted?
[11:02] <iknow45> but again, I doubt it's affecting the install
[11:02] <avis> vigilante, you got me.  i dunno.
[11:02] <maddash> vigilante: does the host you downloaded from provide and md5 hash of the file?
[11:02] <iknow45> thanks for the help anyways
[11:02] <bluesceada> hmm
[11:02] <bluesceada> noone has a clue about the media keys
[11:02] <vigilante> maddash: not sure, I can go check...
[11:02] <haffe> Hello. Would somebody care to help me. I would like to get hibernate working with my nforce2 motherboard. I can't seem to find an updated howto.
[11:03] <avis> maddash, why would gzip care if the file was corrupted ?  or do you mean sector ?
[11:03] <dragon> hi
[11:03] <kolaje> i'm having pretty bad problems with cedega in ubuntu, is this normal?  is ubuntu scared of cedega?
[11:03] <maddash> avis: gzip is lossless, rah? If the file were corrupted....
[11:03] <mimix> any buffs on sharing a printer across my network? MY computer is 6.0.6 however the printer is on a XP machine
[11:03] <haffe> buffs?
[11:04] <avis> maddash by lossless meaning it provides to compression mostly just a hand basket ?
[11:04] <mimix> anyone with good knowledge i should say
[11:04] <avis> no compression
[11:04] <vigilante> I will try downloading the file again from a different source, couldn't finda md5
[11:04] <maddash> avis: huh?
[11:04] <avis> maddash, ignore me
[11:04] <oskude> bluesceada, take a look about "xmodmap", may help
[11:04] <maddash> avis: roger that.
[11:05] <poenkx> any body can help me?
[11:05] <avis> maddash if you care -- does it just archive the files without compression ?
[11:05] <bluesceada> oskude: umm isnt that meant for mice
[11:05] <poenkx> how to install yahoo messenger to dapper?
[11:05] <ROBOd> hello guys
[11:05] <poenkx> how to install yahoo messenger to dapper?
[11:05] <ROBOd> how to get a mouse in the terminal?
[11:05] <poenkx> how to install yahoo messenger to dapper?
[11:06] <bluesceada> and they work in "xev" ..
[11:06] <oskude> bluesceada, i use(d) it for keyboard...
[11:06] <bluesceada> oskude: ok, thx
[11:06] <avis> poenkx, gaim seems to install most IM protocols and should be updated frequently should any protocol changes arrive.
[11:06] <avis> support most protocols..
[11:06] <oskude> bluesceada, man xmodmap says "xmodmap  - utility for modifying keymaps and pointer button mappings in X"
[11:06] <avis> anyway
[11:06] <avis> i'm out of here
[11:06] <benkyoto> anyone who can help me with the xcompmgr setting to keep it from displaying drop shadows on desklets?
[11:06] <avis> ciao !
[11:06] <benkyoto> is there a way?
[11:06] <poenkx> I know Gaim but I like to do more with yahoo messenger
[11:06] <dragon> tbye m8
[11:06] <poenkx> I know Gaim but I like to do more with yahoo messenger
[11:06] <dragon> ...to slow lol
[11:07] <Knome> !repeat > poenkx
[11:07] <bluesceada> oskude: yeh, but to what should i map them??
[11:07] <bluesceada> they are just keys which should do something, not be like other keys :S
[11:07] <dragon> gaim cant use audio or video either...:(
[11:07] <ROBOd> poenkx: there's an official yahoo messenger version for linux
[11:07] <ROBOd> poenkx: but that's outdated
[11:07] <oskude> bluesceada, sorry, didnt see that part, i just saw "media keys" :)
[11:07] <ROBOd> it's worse than Gaim
[11:07] <vigilante> Another question, how do I find out the name of the alsa device?  and if its misconfigured? (Im reading this http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/Doom3FrontPage?action=show&redirect=FrontPage#head-8c36163f1dfc3a253ef72c0f821b0b0dd2fc17b1 )
[11:07] <poenkx> I can not install it
[11:07] <maddash> !repeat > poenkx
[11:08] <maft> I found something to make my music work, can anybody tell me if this will work for mp3 and wma?
[11:08] <maft>  How to install Multimedia Codecs  Stubby All known codecs work except for wmv  Read #General Notes Read #How to add extra repositories  sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-gl sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-base sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-good sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10
[11:08] <oskude> bluesceada, maybe you just map them to nothing ("" or such)
[11:08] <bluesceada> hm okay, thanks then, i will try it out
[11:08] <ROBOd> guys, how to get a mouse in the terminal?
[11:08] <sorush20> I have a very large harddisk .. 300gb would I benefit from RAID, in terms of speed and backup of data?
[11:08] <maddash> R0b0d: define "get a mouse" and "terminal" (you mean bash?)
[11:08] <HackerX> *-*_*-* Ok, I Need to know who i need to talk to in order to get unbanned from this channel. i was wrongly banned and i would like to talk to someone about this. can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks *-*_*-*
[11:09] <oskude> sorush20, you need atleast 2 harddrives to have any use from raid
[11:09] <ROBOd> maddash: lol
[11:09] <poenkx> anybody has ATI Radeon 7000 driver?
[11:09] <dragon> isnt raid for more than 1 HDD on 1 system?
[11:09] <poenkx> anybody has ATI Radeon 7000 driver?
[11:09] <ROBOd> maddash: yes, bash
[11:09] <dragon> u shud have that peon
[11:09] <ROBOd> maddash: like in MS-DOS
[11:09] <Knome> !ops > HackerX
[11:09] <maft> no poenix, but I probably will need drivers for my ati radeon as well
[11:09] <maddash> r0b0d: could you be more specific about the mouse part?
[11:10] <gorski> i have downloaded jdeveloper from oracle, does it work on ubunutu?
[11:10] <poenkx> thanks maft
[11:10] <eobanb> mouse...what the heck?
[11:10] <HackerX> ! ops
[11:10] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[11:10] <dragon> ...www.ati.com
[11:10] <maddash> r0b0d: "like in MS-DOS"? are you in alt-f7 mode or ctrl+alt+f2 mode?
[11:10] <dragon> i cant get my gfx card to work right......and i still dunno how to instal lmao
[11:10] <ROBOd> maddash: have you ever used MS-DOS?
[11:11] <ROBOd> maddash: ctrl+alt+f2, pure console, not from X
[11:11] <ROBOd> that's where i want mouse
[11:11] <poenkx> can I enable arabic language in word Processor?
[11:11] <poenkx> can I enable arabic language in word Processor?
[11:11] <eobanb> yes, poenkx.  yes, poenkx.
[11:11] <narfmaster> ROBOd, sudo apt-get install gpm
[11:11] <maddash> r0b0d: I think it's up to the program you're using to implement it...I don't know what to do about that...
[11:12] <poenkx> how <narfmaster>?
[11:12] <poenkx> what I have to do?
[11:12] <Ayabara> what torrent client do people use. is there anything similar to utorrent in windows?
[11:13] <eobanb> !locale
[11:13] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf
[11:13] <narfmaster> Ayabara, i'm using utorrent
[11:13] <narfmaster> in Wine, that is
[11:13] <ROBOd> thanks narfmaster
[11:13] <Ayabara> narfmaster: ahh. and that is working well?
[11:13] <maddash> how slow can that get?
[11:13] <narfmaster> ROBOd, no problem
[11:13] <narfmaster> Ayabara, works fine
[11:13] <JuhazOne> ok guys... i found out at least partly what is causing my problem with grub and the SATA drive
[11:13] <ic56> JuhazOne: do tell!
[11:13] <JuhazOne> grub can detect the drive when in linux but not when i'm booting the computer :/
[11:13] <giant_> what's the difference between usual terminal and Konsole??
[11:13] <JuhazOne> it thinks it simply doesn't exist
[11:14] <vigilante> maddash: do you know how to find the alsa device name?
[11:14] <eobanb> giant_, one runs in x, the other runs in the framebuffer?
[11:14] <maddash> vigilante: no
[11:14] <giant_> dunno, i installed kdevelop and it installed Konsole with it
[11:15] <eobanb> Ayabara, i like transmission, unfortunately there's no ubuntu package for it yet
[11:15] <JuhazOne> if only i could figure out how to fix this...
[11:15] <ic56> JuhazOne: that implies that the Linux kernel recognizes the drive but grub itself doesn't.  Either a deficiency in grub or maybe a problem in your BIOS config...
[11:15] <Ayabara> eobanb: ok. I've only used gnome-btdownload and azureus under ubuntu, and I don't like any of them much...
[11:16] <JuhazOne> ic56: yeah :/
[11:16] <crimsun> vigilante: alsa doesn't provide "device names"
[11:17] <Pupeno> With htop I see that one of my processors is at 100%, the other varies. It seems the problem is X, it is running at 1.7 but it makes peaks to 57% (the strange thing is that when it makes a peak the other processor gets usage). Any ideas ?
[11:17] <lassegs> Hi. I'm a newbie who tried to fix the jack output on my laptop but instad lost my all my sound. alsa cant find sound device. I compiled some packages from realtek. I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to do reinstall of alsa so i get back to where i started from?
[11:18] <JuhazOne> i suppose i could try installing grub on the SATA disk, unplug the regular one and see if it happens to work then
[11:18] <JuhazOne> also, there are four SATA connectors on my mobo. they come in pairs somehow...
[11:19] <vigilante> crimsun: so what does this link mean? http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/Doom3FrontPage?action=show&redirect=FrontPage#head-8c36163f1dfc3a253ef72c0f821b0b0dd2fc17b1
[11:19] <maddash> !ops
[11:19] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[11:19] <JuhazOne> the mobo is Asus K8V Deluxe
[11:19] <gorski> when can i expect or download j2re1.5
[11:19] <rob> ?
[11:19] <JuhazOne> the connectors are named SATA1, SATA2, PRI_SATA and SEC_SATA
[11:19] <rob> maddash, whats up?
[11:19] <JuhazOne> right now i'm using PRI_SATA. it tried SATA1 first but linux didn't seem to detect the disk at all back then
[11:19] <crimsun> vigilante: those are aliases and not actual devices.
[11:20] <crimsun> vigilante: have you tried those suggestions?
[11:20] <oskude> JuhazOne, try google with youre mobo and sata, maybe there are known bugs. just a gues
[11:20] <benkyoto> Hi ppl? Anyone who knows the parameters I need to enter in xcompmgr so drop shadows are not displayed in desklets. Can a list of exceptions be created or something?
[11:20] <JuhazOne> if i'm not mistaken the Promise 20378 RAID controller on this mobo controls PRI_SATA and SEC_SATA and VIA VT8237 controls SATA1 and SATA2
[11:20] <rob> sigh, don't abuse that, please :)
[11:20] <narfmaster> gorski, in Dapper you can apt-get "sun-java5-bin"
[11:20] <JuhazOne> yeah... first i tried googling with those controllers but i guess i could try with the mobo too
[11:21] <mimix> anyone here use a PIXMA MP800 printer/scanner ??
[11:21] <eobanb> why was maddash kicked just now
[11:21] <mimix> im looking for drivers, or atleast the next closest thing
[11:21] <dragon> :(
[11:21] <lassegs> gorski, you install sun-java5-bin from synaptics because it has a license agreement you must accept which doesnt work in a terminal
[11:21] <oskude> eobanb, (s)he missused the ops command
[11:22] <dragon> my 749.7 mb download has stoped....
[11:22] <dragon> this isnt g00d lol
[11:22] <dragon> meh
[11:22] <gorski> ok
[11:22] <gorski> is it oracle jdeveloper runable on ubuntu?
[11:23] <vigilante> will libxine-extracodecs support all of quicktime and realmedia?
[11:23] <crimsun> no.
[11:23] <gorski> i cannot start java -jar oc4j.jar -install (access denied)
[11:23] <eobanb> certainly not all real media
[11:23] <lassegs> but are there noone here who can help me with doing a clean install of alsa?
[11:24] <eobanb> quicktime files these days tend to just be mpeg 4 or h.264 which is easy to play
[11:24] <mp3guy> is there a program I can get that maps my joypad buttons to keyboard keys?
[11:24] <crimsun> lassegs: what's the issue?
[11:25] <narfmaster> mp3guy, i think jscalibrator will do that
[11:25] <dpn> lol, does anyone know where the default download location is for xchat
[11:25] <dpn> i was downloading and changed it, now I cant find the files i was sent
[11:25] <giant_> how can i create an empty project in KDevelop??
[11:25] <lassegs> crimsun, as mentioned above I tried to fix the jack output on my asusA6v, but ended up destroying alsa. No ive got no sound at all, because alsa doesnt recognize the sound device. im trying to get back to start
[11:25] <oskude> someone should say ubotu how important backup (of config files) is ;) (well, could allso tell some general backup methods)
[11:26] <giant_> how can i create an empty project in KDevelop??
[11:26] <crimsun> lassegs: give me a sec to read backscroll (I don't watch this channel).
[11:26] <infernux> join #hal
[11:26] <narfmaster> dpn, look in ~/.xchat2
[11:26] <infernux> oops
[11:26] <dpn> where is that
[11:27] <lassegs> crimsun, ive apt-get removed alsa-base and reinstalled it, but that didnt work?
[11:27] <lassegs> *!
[11:27] <crimsun> lassegs: reinstall alsa-base, linux-sound-base, and linux-image-$(uname -r)
[11:27] <giant_> !gay
[11:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about gay
[11:27] <dpn> narf, is that in a folder under file system?
[11:28] <vigilante> crimsun: no, haven't tried suggestions, cause I didn't know about aliases name, how do I find that?
[11:28] <lassegs> crimsun, ok, ill try that
[11:28] <narfmaster> dpn that is a hidden folder
[11:28] <cef> dpn: the .xchat2 directory under your home dir. note: all directories and fiels starting with . are usually considered "hidden"
[11:28] <crimsun> lassegs: note that you'll have to wipe /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ prior to reinstalling linux-image-$(uname -r)
[11:28] <narfmaster> dpn, ~ = /home/user
[11:28] <crimsun> vigilante: they're stated in that faq
[11:28] <lassegs> crimsun, wipe being deleting?
[11:28] <crimsun> lassegs: yes
[11:29] <dpn> thanks
[11:29] <lassegs> crimsun, thanks very much, ill try this
[11:29] <mp3guy> narfmaster, can see anything about mapping in it
[11:29] <gonniff> good morning
[11:30] <HiP_P> !mms
[11:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about mms
[11:30] <narfmaster> mp3guy, you may be right, i haven't used my joystick in a while :p
[11:30] <HiP_P> what can i use to watch/listen to mms streams?
[11:31] <narfmaster> gstreamer0.8-mms
[11:31] <gonniff> at the risk of looking dumb, what's mms?
[11:31] <narfmaster> err, that is mimms
[11:32] <oskude> gonniff, im "dumb" too, so i use wikipedia ;)
[11:33] <HiP_P> cheers narfmaster... that will work totem then i guess.
[11:33] <HiP_P> gonniff dont worry i feel dumb in here a lot of the time
[11:33] <gonniff> oskude: thanks - really should have wiki'd it. :)
[11:33] <thotz> i have formated one partition of my usb harddisk with ext3. gnome automounts it correctly, but only root can have access to it. can i change that?
[11:33] <gonniff> HiP_P: ah, good, then I don't feel like the Lone Ranger :)
[11:33] <HiP_P> hahah good good
[11:34] <dpn> Is there a way to turn my monitors off after 5 min instead of a screensaver
[11:34] <dpn> I dont see any power saver option in the list
[11:34] <vigilante> crimsun: all I see is <alsa_device_name> , what did I miss?
[11:34] <thotz> with fat32 it works
[11:34] <crimsun> vigilante: "default", "plughw:0", "plug:surround51", ...
[11:35] <frogzoo> thotz: once, it's mounted, check 'ls -ld /mntpoint'
[11:35] <HiP_P> hmmmm iam still getting URI error
[11:35] <thotz> ls: /mntpoint: No such file or directory
[11:36] <frogzoo> thotz: s/mntpoint/ the directory you mounted it...
[11:36] <samuli> mnt point = mount point, means YOUR mount point, which may vary :)
[11:37] <thotz> ahh
[11:37] <gorski> how to start oc4j server?
[11:37] <thotz> should be this: brw-rw---- 1 root plugdev 8, 35 2006-07-09 11:33 /dev/sdc3
[11:37] <frogzoo> gorski: is there anything like /etc/init.d/oc4j   ???
[11:38] <HiP_P> oh well just see if anyone could quickly with that one.... ill sort it later..... cheers again all
[11:38] <thotz> and how can I change that. why is it mounted as root?
[11:38] <HiP_P> bye
[11:38] <frogzoo> thotz: that's not the mount point, that's the device
[11:38] <gorski> no
[11:38] <gorski> but i have it in /opt/java/bin
[11:39] <gorski> frogzoo?
[11:39] <frogzoo> gorski: ?
[11:40] <thotz> mh. i don't understand it...
[11:40] <narfmaster> thotz, try ls -ld /media/sdc3
[11:40] <gorski> but i have oc4j in /opt/java/bin
[11:40] <gorski> how to start it?
[11:40] <frogzoo> gorski: check the README - or see if there's something in /usr/share/doc/oc4j
[11:40] <thotz> ls: /media/sdc3: No such file or directory
[11:41] <ompaul> thotz, a disk gets mounted, the place is get mounted to is called the mount point, the disk has a device name /dev/* and the place it gets mounted is usually /media/
[11:41] <frogzoo> thotz: does the file system show up when you use the 'mount' command?
[11:41] <narfmaster> thotz, try ls -ld /media
[11:42] <gorski> ufff.. no such thing
[11:42] <ompaul> thotz, the /media/* is a directory name that exists before the mounting, the system has some default ones and creates more as new devices are introduced
[11:42] <narfmaster> hmm, actually thotz try ls -l /media
[11:42] <thotz> drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 4096 2006-07-09 11:33 /media
[11:42] <vigilante> crimsun: thx
[11:42] <nemlah> Hello all..
[11:42] <tvalladon> anyone spare information link on getting xdmcp to work right? have checked the proper options in gdmsetup on both laptop and desktop but they can not see each other... so I must be missing a step.
[11:44] <eobanb> welcome, nemlah
[11:44] <thotz> it's this: drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-07-09 10:35 /media/usbdisk/
[11:44] <narfmaster> looks good
[11:45] <frogzoo> thotz: more than likely that's it - now you need to change its permissions for others to access it
[11:45] <nemlah> ok i am probably not the first one and there does exist a lot of post out there regarding the issue, but could someone help me with the ati drivers on a dual monitor system?
[11:45] <nemlah> this is my second install of dapper
[11:45] <frogzoo> thotz: usually though you'll create subdirectories for users, and give them ownership of those
[11:45] <nemlah> and i would like to do it right this time.. spend most of last night kicking the comp
[11:45] <thotz> but i don't know how to change the permission.
[11:45] <samuli> nemlah, what's the problem?
[11:45] <nemlah> ok
[11:45] <nemlah> fresh install
[11:46] <nemlah> easy ubuntu add ati drivers
[11:46] <oskude> !enter
[11:46] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[11:46] <samuli> nemlah, are they fglrx or ati-proprietary?
[11:46] <nemlah> hmm they are different?
[11:46] <thotz> if i use fat32 instead of ext3 it works and i can copy files on it as a normal user.
[11:46] <nemlah> i suppose the ones that easy ubuntu installed xorg fglrx..
[11:47] <Ayabara> any recommendations for a good download manager?
[11:47] <frogzoo> nemlah: upgrade to fglrx & install fglrx-control
[11:47] <nemlah> ok how to do it.. how do i check which one easy ubuntu installed ?
[11:47] <frogzoo> !permissions > thotz
[11:48] <nemlah> i have fglrxinfo
[11:48] <nemlah> allthough right now it is showing an mesa driver
[11:48] <samuli> nemlah, try cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep "Driver"
[11:48] <nicolito> Hello, good morning: anybody knows how the superuser in linux can get the list of passwords of the other users???
[11:48] <thotz> i'll have a look at it. but for me this is more a bug
[11:48] <samuli> nemlah, see what it says after last Driver
[11:48] <Ayabara> is there an easy way in ubuntu to check if a port is open?
[11:49] <nemlah> fglrx
[11:49] <dragon> hmmmmm
[11:49] <nemlah> allthough there are quite some drivers there
[11:49] <oskude> Ayabara, i like "nmap localhost", but there are many tools for that
[11:49] <nemlah> three related to the screen setup i suppose
[11:49] <nemlah> ati and twi fglrx
[11:49] <Ayabara> oskude: thx, I'll try it out
[11:50] <dragon> can sum 1 help me to install limewire?
[11:50] <samuli> nemlah, you might want to paste you xorg.conf to pastebin.
[11:50] <fyrestrtr> nicolito: not possible.
[11:50] <dragon> ive been serchin forums n stuff for 2 hours and cant find n e thing on "how to install"...
[11:50] <nemlah> yes i will do that.. brb need to restart
[11:50] <frogzoo> dragon: 'sudo apt-get install frostwire' = done
[11:50] <oskude> nicolito, you would need to crack the passwords...
[11:51] <nicolito> fyrestrtr, so if the superuser needs to log in as one of the users to install a program, what can he do??
[11:51] <dragon> ok thanx m8
[11:51] <tufsy> hi
[11:51] <fyrestrtr> nicolito: su [nameofuser] 
[11:52] <nicolito> fyrestrtr, but it asks you one password, isnt it?
[11:52] <fyrestrtr> it shouldn't if you are root
[11:52] <fyrestrtr> try it.
[11:52] <oskude> nicolito, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:53] <narfmaster> why would you want to login as a user if you are already root?
[11:53] <nicolito> oskude, is there any way to crack the passwords??
[11:53] <tvalladon> ok, if no one has an info link does any one have any specific hints as how to get remote xwindows to work right? was never a problem in 5.x but with 6.06 I seem to have issues...
[11:53] <tufsy> i am new to linux, i followed a tutorial on installing xgl and it worked! but, i dunno why but it seems when i click my "quit" button top right - i have no option anymore to shut down or restart - i just have, hibernate, log off, lock etc. how do i get the shut down and restart option back again?
[11:53] <fyrestrtr> nicolito: wth are you trying to do? You don't need to crack any passwords. If you are root, you have access to the entire system.
[11:54] <frogzoo> narfmaster: so that if you trip up, you don't take the system down with you
[11:54] <fyrestrtr> tufsy: I think this is a bug in the software itself.
[11:54] <nemlah> HAHAHA... back in dual screen!!!
[11:54] <nemlah> i rebooted and i have dual!!!
[11:54] <samuli> nemlah, cool :)
[11:54] <nemlah> buuut
[11:54] <nemlah> the screens are switched
[11:54] <fyrestrtr> uhoh lol
[11:54] <samuli> (there's always a but)
[11:54] <nemlah> how do i set the primary and the secondary
[11:54] <nemlah> ?
[11:55] <oskude> tufsy, xgl isnt even beta, so you gotta live with them, or track them down... the bugs that is...
[11:55] <nicolito> fyrestrtr: I want to configure a program to access internet of one of the users, but I only know to configure it in GDM (grafical mode)
[11:55] <tanlaan> hey everyone, im getting an error while trying to execute a file, it says cant execute binary files is there any possible way to make it work?
[11:55] <tufsy> fyrestrtr: ok, so it cannot be fixed? cos now i have to log off and then shut down
[11:55] <samuli> nemlah, type aticonfig
[11:55] <nemlah> aticonfig
[11:55] <fyrestrtr> nemlah: how did you configure it?
[11:55] <nemlah> haha
[11:55] <samuli> ok, now type it in terminal :)
[11:55] <fyrestrtr> tufsy: it will be fixed, but not now. xgl is very alpha quality software. Expect bugs.
[11:55] <tanlaan> if needed i will send a pastebin of the shell script executing it, and the error that comes up *specifically*
[11:55] <lewwy> Hey guys
[11:55] <oskude> tufsy, just curious, does System - Quit give the "standard" shut down dialog ?
[11:55] <fyrestrtr> nicolito: what program is it?
[11:56] <samuli> nemlah, it should list an option where you can make an invert horizontal tms.
[11:56] <nemlah> aticonfig --initial=dual-head --screen-layout=right
[11:56] <nicolito> fyrestrtr: Gnome Dial
[11:56] <tufsy> i am not sure if it is xgl though, cos the tutorial i followed installed this "automatix" thing which installed loads of other stuff...mebe that caused it? dunno..
[11:56] <nicolito> fyrestrtr: for a dialup connection
[11:56] <nemlah> aticonfig --dtop=horizontal --overlay-on=1
[11:56] <fyrestrtr> nicolito: settings should be in ~/.gnome2
[11:56] <lewwy> Currently I've got a remote box running CentOS 3.  Suffice to say, I really don't like it.  I was wondering if theres a way to "upgrade" from CentOS 3 (rpm based) to Ubuntu (remembering I have no physical access to the box).  Any suggestions?
[11:56] <oskude> !automatix
[11:56] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[11:56] <tufsy> oskude: no system quit gives the same dialog with the missing buttons
[11:57] <samuli> you're quick :) though I think you only need the --screen-layout etc or --dtop with approriate switches.
[11:57] <fyrestrtr> lewwy: hrmm .... I would say go with UML but that would be a bit much.
[11:57] <oskude> tufsy, then something broke your system, i got xgl at work, and i get the normal shut down dialog :/
[11:57] <nicolito> fyrestrtr: but I dont know how to configure it using the console
[11:57] <lewwy> UML, fyrestrtr?
[11:57] <fyrestrtr> nicolito: just copy the file from another user's account.
[11:57] <fyrestrtr> lewwy: user mode linux.
[11:57] <nicolito> ok
[11:57] <samuli> nemlah, after you make a change ctrl+alt+backspace, log in again and if X won't start copy the backup over xorg.conf
[11:58] <tufsy> oskude: can i find out what did?
[11:58] <belleke> whats the diffences between the alternate and desktop iso?
[11:58] <narfmaster> isn't CentOS up to 4.3 right now?
[11:58] <oskude> tufsy, i never used automatix...
[11:58] <hybrid> belleke: the desktop iso is a livecd
[11:58] <tufsy> ahh ic
[11:58] <nemlah> should i use overlay =0
[11:58] <nemlah> ?
[11:59] <lewwy> yeh it is, but i'll be damned if i can get it upgrading
[11:59] <hybrid> belleke: and the altern is a text install
[11:59] <nemlah> i mean does overlay mean which is the second monitor?
[11:59] <nicolito> fyrestrtr, but if I want to enter to an user's Desktop to put a direct access??
[11:59] <aurelienm> Hi everyone, I have an up-to-date Dapper PPC, but I have a lot of problems
[11:59] <oskude> belleke, desktop cd has the live system and the new installer, alternate has the old text mode install (plus some other install stuff)
[11:59] <hybrid> aurelienm: ask away
[11:59] <samuli> nemlah, I'm remembering there's a really simple --dtop switch to change just the alignment of the monitors.
[11:59] <tufsy> brb
[11:59] <noobie0057> how can I edit .gtkrc-1.2-gnome2 ?
[11:59] <nemlah> ok reading into it
[11:59] <fyrestrtr> nicolito: not possible without their password.
[12:00] <samuli> nemlah, if everything else is fine I'd try just that and nothing else.
[12:00] <nicolito> fyrestrtr, ok
[12:00] <belleke> i'm working in ubuntu but i'm thinking about xubuntu
[12:00] <aurelienm> hybrid: lots of apps froze very quickly. None of mailers are usable (have tested Evolution, Thunderbird, and Sylpheed Claws GTK2)
[12:00] <belleke> is it as good as ubuntu?
[12:00] <irvin> Seveas: ping?
[12:01] <hybrid> belleke: depends on what 'good' means
[12:01] <nicolito> fyrestrtr, and there isnt any way to decript the passwords in /etc/passwd??
[12:01] <Ayabara> is there a howto for installing opera 9 on dapper?
[12:01] <hybrid> belleke: personally i love xubuntu
[12:01] <fyrestrtr> nicolito: no
[12:01] <hybrid> aurelienm: how did you install them?
[12:01] <narfmaster> nicolito, /etc/passwd doesn't store that type of info
[12:01] <tanlaan> im getting an error saying cont execute binary file, its a shell script trying to execute a file
[12:01] <aurelienm> via Install/Remove Application entry menu
[12:01] <tanlaan> what can i do to make it work? :D
[12:02] <aurelienm> OpenOffice froze too
[12:02] <belleke> my system is running a bit slow for the moment and i want try xubuntu ;-)
[12:02] <delmar> Has anyone come accross the issue with Dapper and Adaptec SCSI I2O based Raid cards. !!!!.  Install works perfectly, but when the system reboots it hangs every single time with messages like iop0: device already claimed.  Has anyone seen this or does anyone have any suggestions on getting past this issue?
[12:02] <hybrid> aurelienm: do they freeze the first time or did you configure them then they froze?
[12:02] <narfmaster> aurelienm, how much RAM do you have?
[12:02] <aurelienm> hybrid: first time
[12:02] <hybrid> belleke: xubuntu is nice and a friend is working on fluxbuntu
[12:02] <hybrid> aurelienm: hmm weird
[12:03] <aurelienm> narfmaster: ibook 1.33, about 700Mo of ram
[12:03] <hybrid> not sure aurelienm, but stick around and maybe someone can help you
[12:03] <ic56> tanlaan: did you spell that error message right?  Please paste the exact text
[12:03] <pl_ice> guys new virus came out, infects microsoft and linux as well :/
[12:03] <hybrid> pl_ice: do you know what 'proof of concept' means?
[12:03] <noobie0057> I want to edit the current theme, I found I should edit the file .gtkrc-1.2-gnome2, this file includes another file, that file does not exist
[12:03] <ic56> pl_ice: yeah, right!
[12:04] <hybrid> ic56: it did happen but it was a mere proof of concept
[12:04] <frogzoo> delmar: usually Google  is pretty good at resolving driver issues
[12:04] <frogzoo> oops - soz
[12:04] <narfmaster> aurelienm, that sounds fine although i've only had experience with iMacs
[12:04] <delmar> frogzoo, well tell google to come on over here and fix it :P
[12:04] <tvalladon> any help with remote xwindows? still searching but no luck.
[12:04] <ic56> hybrid: on which architecture?
[12:05] <Ayabara> is opera9 available from the ubuntu repos?
[12:05] <hybrid> HAHA oskude +2
[12:05] <delmar> frogzoo, I have googled around and found some interesting info, but nothing that specifically fixes this issue or tells me exactly what to do. consequently I have been messing about trying stuff myself with no success.
[12:05] <hybrid> ic56: x86, tis the only arch windows runs on
[12:05] <hybrid> Ayabara: from the comercial one
[12:05] <hybrid> Ayabara: buntudot.org for more info
[12:05] <pl_ice_>  bloody wless :/
[12:05] <Ayabara> hybrid: thanks.
[12:05] <narfmaster> Ayabara, opera cannot legally go into the repo
[12:05] <hybrid> Ayabara: no problem
[12:06] <tanlaan> ic56: pastebinning right now
[12:06] <reservation> kkk
[12:06] <hybrid> narfmaster: http://buntudot.org 2nd  post iirc
[12:06] <tanlaan> ic56: http://pastebin.ca/83096
[12:06] <narfmaster> thanks hybrid
[12:06] <hybrid> narfmaster: anytime
[12:07] <ic56> hybrid: how does that virus manage to execute itself?  unix executable formats are different from MS.  Actually, this is off-topic.  Do you have a URL handy?
[12:07] <noobie0057>    anyone know about /home/<user>/.gtkrc.mine or .gtkrc-1.2-gnome2   ?
[12:07] <hybrid> ic56: im not sure. digg.com/search  should bring it up, i kinda bleh it off
[12:08] <narfmaster> noobie0057, you may have to create one or both of those files
[12:08] <pl_ice_> ic56 ,i got the link, but it's not in english ;)
[12:08] <hybrid> ic56: it wasnt as big of a deal as it being a virus as it was being cross platform
[12:08] <noobie0057> narfmaster what is the format of the files?,, I can't find anything on these files
[12:08] <narfmaster> noobie0057, just a sec
[12:09] <ic56> pl_ice: what language is it in?  English isn't the only tongue I understand.
[12:09] <delmar> Well... Debian stable just installed, rebooted, and works mint, so after wasting at least a day trying to resolve this issue.. screw Dapper.. in this case. /sigh. Since I need to move onto actually installing and setting up the intended software, I will just have to give up on Dapper this time.
[12:09] <pl_ice_> btw one of the mirrors ubuntu 386 iso is named 7.0.6 not 6.0.6 :D hehee funny...
[12:09] <ic56> tanlaan: hmm.  It reports success too
[12:09] <pl_ice_> ic56 Polish
[12:09] <ic56> tanlaan: pastebin the script for me.
[12:10] <oskude> delmar, debian is a good choice.
[12:10] <ic56> pl_ice_: ah. Bummer.  I can't read Polish.
[12:10] <tanlaan> ic56: ok
[12:10] <narfmaster> noobie0057, http://www.flexion.org/site/index.php?gadget=StaticPage&action=Page&id=18
[12:11] <hybrid> ic56: http://digg.com/security/New_PoC_virus_can_infect_both_Windows_and_Linux
[12:11] <delmar> oskude, sure. its the foundation of ubuntu.  i switched to debian from slackware back in the days when everything was compiled from source with all sorts of dependancy issues... that was about 8 or 9 years ago.
[12:11] <delmar> never looked back.
[12:11] <pl_ice_> Lnx.Bi.A/W32.Bi.A that's what its called
[12:11] <noobie0057> narfmaster: thanks
[12:11] <delmar> I'm enjoying Dapper on other systems that it installed on. ubuntu is pretty cool all round, and being based on Debian makes it perfect for me.
[12:11] <tanlaan> ic56: http://pastebin.ca/83104
[12:12] <ZeeGeek> I did a fresh installationg, network is not working with URLs but only IPs. I checked resolv.conf, the DNS servers were the same as in Windows. what's wrong with the network?
[12:12] <stefg> !kernel
[12:12] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:12] <delmar> I just wish it would install on this box with the Adaptec 2110S card.  I can't figure out why it's not working.
[12:12] <pl_ice_> !beer
[12:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about beer
[12:12] <hybrid> delmar: you looked into ndiswrapper?
[12:12] <ic56> hybrid: thx!
[12:13] <hybrid> ic56: no problem ;)
[12:13] <delmar> hybrid, huh?
[12:13] <hybrid> delmar: ndiswrapper lets you use windows drivers in linux for wireless cards
[12:13] <CrashProne> What's a good simple program for chopping up .wav files?  I like the idea of not using Audacity though, last time I started that up it fudged my audio settings just by being turned on.
[12:13] <tanlaan> ic56: if you missed it http://pastebin.ca/83104
[12:13] <delmar> hybrid, dude my issue has nothing to do with networking or wireless
[12:14] <delmar> hybrid, its purely an I2O problem with an Adaptec raid controler
[12:14] <hybrid> delmar: ah sorry, must have read wrong
[12:14] <hybrid> my appologies
[12:14] <delmar> np
[12:15] <mnk> hi all - i am trying to get my nvidia driver working for my geforce 2 go card - but it doesn't seem to work! i tried installing the nvidia drivers and then modifying the driver from nv to nvidia but x simply won't start. however, when i change back to nv it is fine again! [i need 3d acceleration to use xgl which won't work with the nv driver] . i am on a dell inspiron 8100. PLEASE any help will be appreciated.
[12:15] <Ayabara> may be imagining this, but I think the fan on my inspiron laptop is louder in ubuntu than in xp. deja vu anyone?
[12:15] <ic56> tanlaan: do this for me and paste here what it reports:  echo $PATH
[12:16] <oskude> mnk, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:16] <webben1> I'm trying to patch a bug/problem with sudo (see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/50797). However one of my changes results in a segmentation fault. This is the first time I've had to mess around with C++. What's the best tool for finding out what line of code produces a segmentation fault?
[12:16] <mnk> oskude, thanks for ur response. how do i pastebin?
[12:16] <oskude> !paste
[12:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:17] <CrashProne> Anyone know a good program to cut apart audio files?
[12:17] <CrashProne> Or command line trick?
[12:17] <orfeu> It is a difference betwen ubnutu and kubuntu excuding the interface ( gnome and kde ) ?
[12:17] <tanlaan> tanlaan@tanlaan:~/Desktop/byond/host$ echo $PATH
[12:17] <tanlaan> /home/tanlaan/Desktop/byond/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[12:18] <frogzoo> delmar: you could take a look at this: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/37639
[12:18] <hybrid> orfeu: the only real difference is Gnome vs KDE
[12:18] <orfeu> oky thanks
[12:18] <mnk> oskude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17607
[12:18] <ic56> tanlaan: also please pastebin for me the output of "ls -lR" from the directory containing the script.
[12:18] <oskude> mnk, reading
[12:18] <frogzoo> webben1: learn gdb
[12:18] <webben1> orfeu: no, except that they get bundled with slightly different applications (e.g. text editor and messaging client for kde rather than gnome or vice versa)
[12:19] <mnk> thanks oskude
[12:19] <pl_ice_> guys, i've just downloaded the new ubuntu, at the begining it says run and/or install, doesn't look like i can install it... just live cd??...
[12:19] <orfeu> so If i like kde and ilike ubuntu with his repostiories i can use kubuntu ! :D
[12:19] <delmar> frogzoo, yeah i seen that, but unless I missed something, i'm not seeing the solution in there.
[12:19] <oskude> mnk, could you allso pastebinn your xorg.conf file
[12:20] <hybrid> pl_ice_: it installs from livecd
[12:20] <tanlaan> http://pastebin.ca/83109
[12:20] <hybrid> pl_ice_: once the livecd is up you wull see and 'install' icon on the desktop
[12:20] <hybrid> will
[12:20] <webben1> frogzoo: i did look at gdb but my initial impression was that you have to use it directly with the source files ... where as for all i know the segmentation fault may be an interaction between my changes to the source and the debian rules. Can gdb be used to debug the compiled program installed by the package?
[12:20] <pl_ice_> hybrid hmm.. that's new :) thnx
[12:20] <gatekeeper> pl_ice_: run the livecd up you should get an install icon
[12:20] <hybrid> pl_ice_: yulp new to dapper
[12:20] <mnk> oskude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17608
[12:20] <tanlaan> the file it is executing is in another folder *btw*
[12:21] <ic56> tanlaan: looking
[12:21] <muep> orfeu: ubuntu and kubuntu use the same repositories
[12:21] <mnk> thanks oskude - i really appreciate all ur help] 
[12:21] <pl_ice_> hybrid had freebsd on my box, but came back to ubuntu ;)
[12:21] <stefg> Since there's obviously no initiative to change something about the terrible buggy -25 kernel, and i'm realyy fed up with it now.. is there any 3rd party repo with kernels for _Dapper_? (no, i will not get another bcollins kernel from the edgy repo)
[12:21] <pl_ice_> looks pretty flash :D
[12:21] <hybrid> pl_ice_: i think you will like Ubuntu more, at least I have.
[12:22] <delmar> frogzoo, actually I do see a couple more ideas in there I need to try... we shall see
[12:22] <oskude> mnk, well, you dont have "nvidia" as driver, please use that driver, restart x and pastebin both files again...
[12:22] <pl_ice_> stefg what's wrong with it? i'm installing it now...
[12:22] <stefg> consult laucnchpad... it's just a mess
[12:22] <pl_ice_> mnk btw i got ispiron, older one, does ur wless work?...
[12:22] <mnk> ok but x won't start so how would i do that?
[12:23] <mnk> pl_ice_, i don't have w/less
[12:23] <mnk> oskude,  ok but x won't start so how would i do that?
[12:23] <rambo3> use vi
[12:23] <Freddie> I am having a problem getting evolution to accept my self-signed IMAP ssl cert
[12:23] <mnk> oskude, ie x always crashes when i use nvidia as the driver - so how would i get on firefox to pastebin and also on xchat to chat to u?
[12:23] <Freddie> every time i run it it asks me if I want to accept it (and I always say yes)
[12:24] <ic56> tanlaan: hmmm. I wonder if DreamDaemon runs under a uid other than yours.  Let's fix things so they'll work either way.  Do this: chmod 755 host.dmb  Then re-run the script.  Does the error go away or change?
[12:24] <Freddie> can anyone tell me how to stop this?
[12:24] <oskude> mnk, hmm, "sudo cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log /var/log/Xorg.0.log.blah" from the console after x has failed with nvidia driver, then change to "nv" again, and post the error log ...blah
[12:25] <mnk> aah ok
[12:25] <tanlaan> the error is exactly the same
[12:25] <mnk> oskude, can i just change the xorg.conf file and press ctrl-alt-backspace now? or do i have to reboot?
[12:25] <Minty> hello, when I do a sudo apt-get install azureus, I get E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:26] <oskude> mnk, this says geforce 2 go should work with xgl, so there is hope :) http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Video_Card_Support_Under_XGL#nVidia_Cards
[12:26] <hybrid> Minty: close synaptic and anything else installing packages
[12:26] <mnk> thanks oskude
[12:26] <oskude> mnk, ctrl-alt-backspace is enough
[12:26] <Minty> stupid me, thanks
[12:26] <mnk> oskude, ok brb
[12:26] <mnk> oskude, thanks again
[12:26] <oskude> mnk, wait
[12:26] <pl_ice_> love new ubuntu install gui ;)
[12:26] <mnk> oskude,  ok
[12:27] <hybrid> word even
[12:27] <hybrid> pl_ice_: makes life easy
[12:27] <ic56> tanlaan: thinking...
[12:27] <oskude> mnk, you can start x again after fail from console with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[12:27] <pl_ice_> hybrid and fun ;)
[12:27] <oskude> hybrid, g word ?
[12:27] <mnk> oskude, cool
[12:27] <hybrid> oskude: gentoo
[12:27] <hybrid> :p
[12:28] <mnk> oskude, ok i'm going to do that now then
[12:28] <oskude> hybrid, well, its from ubuntu wiki, give me a link with that list, and ubuntu url ? ;)
[12:28] <oskude> mnk, roher
[12:28] <oskude> *roger
[12:28] <Minty> azureus installed, bug on closing message windows, anyone know the answer ?
[12:28] <lassegs> crimsun, i tried your apt-get remove linux-sound-base, but it says it will also remove (among other things) gnome-panel, gdm, gnome sessions and so on, and i dont want to loose my settings
[12:28] <hybrid> oskude: just giving ya a hard time
[12:28] <tufsy> hi
[12:28] <ic56> tanlaan: it doesn't make sense to both exec *and* put in the background.  Modify the last line in the script by removing the first word ("exec").  What happens when you re-reun the script?
[12:28] <CrashProne> !  What's your issue with the sound, lassegs?
[12:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about What's your issue with the sound, lassegs?
[12:29] <oskude> hybrid, yeah, im bored too ;)
[12:29] <tanlaan> ok ill try that
[12:29] <CrashProne> ... oop
[12:29] <hybrid> heh
[12:29] <ompaul> CrashProne, please do not prefix your statements with ! it is a command for the bot
[12:29] <CrashProne> Indeed.
[12:29] <crimsun> lassegs: just forcibly --reinstall install it
[12:29] <hybrid> uhoh here comes ompaul
[12:29] <crimsun> lassegs: it's more important that the RealTek package's settings are overwritten
[12:30] <tanlaan> ic56: that gets rid of the success part of the error
[12:30] <CrashProne> I was just gonna say-- if you had the same sound issue as I, lassegs, I know what to do.
[12:30] <crimsun> CrashProne: what was yours?
[12:30] <tanlaan> ic56: but it keeps the cannot execute binary part
[12:30] <lassegs> crashprone, yeah what was that? sound jack problem?
[12:30] <CrashProne> My alsa settings got a utterly unknown issue with them, and I needed to return to the default
[12:30] <lassegs> ok
[12:30] <ic56> tanlaan: good.  Now we have a simpler situation
[12:31] <lassegs> crashprone, and you did it the same way as crimsun tells me to do?
[12:31] <ic56> tanlaan: do this for me and paste the output in channel: ls -l `which DreamDaemon`
[12:31] <CrashProne> Eh, I'm not so sure that we have the same issue, but if you made a mistake in the sound settings and need to return to what Ubuntu installed initially... you delete... ahh... gimme a sec here.
[12:31] <Hexidigital_> good morning everyone
[12:32] <airjump> morning
[12:32] <tufsy> i am new to linux and have ubuntu dapper installed, i installed XGL using a tutorial and now my "Quit" dialog has lost the shut down and restart buttons - i have been reliably informed this had something to do with: a side effect of the xgl session method - where i made xgl a seperate session, so i got later relog into a default session incase xgl did not work...can anyone help me please?
[12:32] <pl_ice_> hey, i'm using that GUI instaling ubuntu, do i chose my names for / /home etc? can't see to specify it...
[12:32] <hybrid> lol
[12:32] <ompaul> tanghus, please do not paste over two lines in the channel
[12:33] <tufsy> sorry dcd
[12:33] <tufsy> did anyone see my question?
[12:33] <oskude> pl_ice_, the minimum you need is the "/" and swap partition, or what do you mean ?
[12:33] <tanlaan> tanlaan@tanlaan:~/Desktop/byond/host$ ls -l `which DreamDaemon`
[12:33] <tanlaan> -rwxr-xr-x 1 tanlaan tanlaan 16412 2006-02-17 01:08 /home/tanlaan/Desktop/byond/bin/DreamDaemon
[12:33] <lassegs> tufsy, that sounds like a cool bug
[12:33] <ompaul> tufsy, there is an xgl channel -- #ubuntu-xgl
[12:34] <CrashProne> Ah!
[12:34] <lassegs> you found out anything CrashProne
[12:34] <tufsy> lassegs: :), thanx but its annoying cos i have to log off and then shut down using actions...
[12:34] <lassegs> tufsy, you cant just sudo halt ?
[12:34] <ompaul> zhan, please do not use noisey away - keep it silent by doing /away reason the other will get you removed from the channel, thanks
[12:35] <pl_ice_> oskude , will it create automatically all partitions, if i'll create /  and swap ? eg. /home etc.
[12:35] <Hexidigital_> tufsy:: you should use "sudo shutdown -h now" instead of sudo halt
[12:35] <oskude> pl_ice_, as you see "home" _is_ inside "/", so yes :)
[12:35] <CrashProne> lassegs: delete /var/lib/alsa/asound.state   ... what happens there, is that's your mixer defaults.  It saves your settings to that for when you restart.  Do a HARD (press the button, man!) reset.  It'll bring up a default mixer setup and you can work it from there.
[12:35] <lonran> is there any way to update the kernel automaticly in ubuntu dapper?
[12:35] <tufsy> lassegs: :), well i am new to linux - i like buttons :)
[12:35] <oskude> pl_ice_, but SWAP is an own partition and filesystem
[12:36] <stefg> lonran: this is the default behaviour
[12:36] <pl_ice_> oskude hmm, that's make it easier, less partitions, used to have separate for most of them ;) thnx
[12:36] <Hexidigital_> lonran:: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:36] <ompaul> tufsy, Hexidigital_ has the answer, System Accessories Terminal to get a terminal - that is all the buttond does
[12:36] <lassegs> CrashProne,  thanx ill try that. if that doesnt work ill give crimsun (thx for your help crimsun) tip a try
[12:36] <oskude> pl_ice_, you need atleast 2 partitions, 1 for "/" (propably ext3 filesystem) and 1 for swap (swap filesystem)
[12:36] <CrashProne> Indeed.
[12:36] <Hexidigital_> lonran:: that is one command in terminal
[12:36] <lassegs> tufsy, im new too, so i get what you mean
[12:37] <ic56> tanlaan: one last check -- paste the one line of output here: file `which DreamDaemon`
[12:37] <tanlaan> -rwxr-xr-x 1 tanlaan tanlaan 16412 2006-02-17 01:08 /home/tanlaan/Desktop/byond/bin/DreamDaemon
[12:37] <tanlaan> say oo sorry
[12:37] <tanlaan> :D
[12:37] <oskude> pl_ice_, the others inside "/" can have own partitions, but is not needed
[12:37] <lonran> ok, thanks, Hexidigital_ il try
[12:37] <Hexidigital_> lonran:: np
[12:37] <pl_ice_> oskude yep, got it :)
[12:37] <tanlaan> tanlaan@tanlaan:~/Desktop/byond/host$ file `which DreamDaemon`
[12:37] <tanlaan> /home/tanlaan/Desktop/byond/bin/DreamDaemon: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.0.30, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.0.30, stripped
[12:37] <hybrid> oskude: /home can be its own partition
[12:37] <Hexidigital_> lonran:: if it dosent do what you need, come back
[12:37] <oskude> pl_ice_, roger
[12:37] <lassegs> see you all in 1 min then (thank god for the nice new bootup time in dapper)
[12:37] <oskude> hybrid, did i say something else ?
[12:38] <ic56> tanlaan: hmmm, how about: file `which ./host.dmb`
[12:38] <hybrid> oskude: well 'home is in '/'' isnt necessarily true
[12:38] <gatekeeper> does ubuntu have a status page for the repos whether they are up/down/whatever?
[12:38] <Hexidigital_> hybrid:: why not true?
[12:38] <Hexidigital_> hybrid:: by default, with 1 partition, it is
[12:39] <hybrid> yes
[12:39] <Hexidigital_> well.. not necessarily by default
[12:39] <tanlaan> tanlaan@tanlaan:~/Desktop/byond/host$ file `which ./host.dmb`
[12:39] <tanlaan> ./host.dmb: a /usr/local/bin/DreamDaemon -por script text executable
[12:39] <lonran> Hexidigital_:  everything is updated, but i would like to try the new  kernel version, cuz i have this 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic
[12:39] <hybrid> Hexidigital_: but you can partition a disk to have /home be a partition, makes good for edgy
[12:39] <dsas> gatekeeper: Not that I know of, some individual mirrors may be a bit dodgy though.
[12:39] <Hexidigital_> hybrid:: ah, i see what is going on :)
[12:39] <hybrid> then if edgy breaks your data is still alive
[12:39] <pl_ice_> hm, and where did the grub go?.... i've partitioned all going for install... didn't see grub settings :) bloody gui heheh
[12:39] <hybrid> Hexidigital_: ;)
[12:40] <oskude> pl_ice_, the new installer dont ask about grub :/
[12:40] <dsas> gatekeeper: If you can ping them then they're up, if not then try a different mirror.
[12:40] <pl_ice_> hybrid yeh, i got separated partitions, but this system is space limited :)
[12:41] <pl_ice_> oskude hahahahah, jeee i feel like in an ice age...
[12:41] <hybrid> pl_ice_: thats why they make firewire ;)
[12:41] <johan1> Hi all! I just downloaded an accounting package from universe and it seemed to install etc - but there was no desktop icon ... and I have no idea where to find the button to make it all start ... Has anyone any idea where programs are set up to or what is the linux equivalent of an exe prog???
[12:41] <gatekeeper> dsas: where can I find the URL of the other mirrors?
[12:41] <Hexidigital_> my new server just finished installing... to use fluxbox, i also need ubuntu-desktop, correct?
[12:41] <lassegs> CrashProne,  your tip didnt work for me, ill try crimsun now.. thx anyway
[12:42] <ic56> tanlaan: ok, two possibilities are arising.  Let's try the easy one first.  Modify the script so that the last line says "./host.dmb" -- i.e. prepend a dot and slash.  Any change?
[12:42] <dsas> gatekeeper: Generally it's countrycode.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:42] <pl_ice_> hybrid got lan cables at the moment... how fast can u get info through firewire? :)
[12:42] <dsas> gatekeeper: e.g. us.archive.ubuntu.com or gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:42] <hybrid> pl_ice_: 400mbs
[12:42] <gatekeeper> dsas: thanks :-)
[12:42] <CrashProne> Arright-- but if you ever mix up your sound settings accidentally, and they worked when you first installed Ubuntu-- that works. :-P
[12:42] <hybrid> pl_ice_: but it is substancially faster than USB2.0 and LAN
[12:42] <hybrid> isnt as faster as fiber though
[12:43] <pl_ice_> hybrid and is that topology like eth? e.g. full duplex?... or u get that full 400 :D
[12:43] <ranpha> hi what is a good irc client like Sysreset (nased on Mirc) where you also can transfer files
[12:43] <tufsy> anyone, know how i can restore my shutdown and restart buttons which went missing from my quit dialog - i have been told it had something to do with the way i installed XGL and some session issue...
[12:43] <hybrid> Hexidigital_: i dont think flux is gtk
[12:43] <hybrid> pl_ice_: you get close to it
[12:43] <bleha> does anyone here use an ipod on linux?
[12:43] <oskude> hybrid, LAN can be gigabit too, so isnt neccessary true ;)
[12:43] <pl_ice_> bleha yeh
[12:43] <ompaul> tufsy, have you asked in #ubuntu-xgl?
[12:43] <tufsy> yeah
[12:43] <Hexidigital_> hmm... hybrid do you know what command i need to get flux to start? (i previously tried startfluxbox , fluxbox , flux and nothing worked)
[12:43] <tanlaan> ic56: still getting the error :(
[12:44] <hybrid> ranpha: most clients support file transfer, xchat is nice but i like irssi
[12:44] <tufsy> ompaul: they said it was a glitch
[12:44] <hybrid> oskude: ah yes ty
[12:44] <ic56> tanlaan: ok. makes sense.  This will fix it:
[12:44] <bleha> pl_ice_, which generation do you have?
[12:44] <Stardog> ok...  in dapper rescuemode, what command do i type to start logging in Gnome?
[12:44] <pl_ice_> mini
[12:44] <mnk> oskude, r u there?
[12:44] <hybrid> Hexidigital_: not sure, but a friend is working on fluxbuntu which should be out in a few weeks if you can wait
[12:44] <mnk> !paste
[12:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:44] <Hexidigital_> hybrid:: :( i wish i could wait
[12:44] <ranpha> hybrid where can i set mine setting then in xchat???
[12:45] <oskude> mnk, yup
[12:45] <bleha> pl_ice_, did you have to initialize an itunes db when you first got it?
[12:45] <hybrid> ranpha: for file transfer? it is all dcc
[12:45] <mnk> oskude, x crashed my whole machine!
[12:45] <ompaul> tufsy, well that is a side effect of beta software, you can try >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<< and reset the machine to the original xserver configs no xgl, I don't have any other possible routes for you off the top of my head
[12:45] <bleha> pl_ice_, i am trying to use gtkpod for the first time on my new fifth gen 30gb ipod, but apparently there is no initial itunesdb
[12:45] <pl_ice_> bleha yes, this is mainly as ipod got mac file system on it, i believe it's changing it to fat32 after initiation
[12:45] <ompaul> tufsy, also check out system administration logon window
[12:45] <fyrestrtr> tufsy: search compiz.net
[12:46] <mnk> oskude, so i had switch off and then on my machine again :'(
[12:46] <oskude> mnk, i just found this (apt-cache show nvidia-glx) " If you have a TNT, TNT2, or older GeForce, you may need the nvidia-glx-legacy
[12:46] <oskude>  package instead of this one." but dunno if nvidia geforce 2 go is an "old" geforce..
[12:46] <mnk> oskude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17609
[12:46] <johan1> Does anyone know where my accounting package might have installed? ... and where I might find the icon to make it all happen???
[12:46] <pl_ice_> bleha u have to format ur ipod, gtkpod uses fat32, original ipod is in mac file system
[12:46] <CrashProne> They really are doing a Fluxbox Ubuntu layout?
[12:46] <ic56> tanlaan: Actually, let me rephrase. *modify* the line, changing the "/usr/local/bin/DreamDaemon" to: "/usr/bin/env DreamDaemon"
[12:46] <oskude> mnk, reading
[12:47] <tanlaan> ic56: what? i didnt get anything past : on your last post
[12:47] <hybrid> CrashProne: no it is a 3rd party project #fluxbuntu
[12:47] <gyro54> Hi all.  In gxine what does "No demuxer found - stream format not recognised."
[12:47] <Stardog> ok...  in dapper rescuemode, what command do i type to start logging in Gnome?
[12:47] <tufsy> ompaul: what do i look in the sys admin login for?
[12:47] <ic56> tanlaan: Modify the line, changing the "/usr/local/bin/DreamDaemon" to: "/usr/bin/env DreamDaemon"
[12:48] <raguanu> *help* one of my network cards does not work on dapper drake, but works fine on windows. I had to boot to windows to have my network up. I would appreciate any help.
[12:48] <ic56> tanlaan: there's one space in the modified text
[12:48] <oskude> mnk, hmm, are you still trying 1600x1200 mode ? have you tried 1024x768 ?
[12:48] <mnk> oskude, http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-a.html
[12:48] <tanlaan> so it should say "/usr/bin/env DreamDaemon ./host.dmb 1111 -safe &"
[12:48] <fyrestrtr> raguanu: what kind of network card is it?
[12:48] <mnk> oskude, that lists the legacy cards at the end - ie the ones supported by the legacy drivers. mine isn't there
[12:48] <CrashProne> hybrid: Figures it'd be Fluxbox.  With that, there'd be all my favourite desktop environments as planned Ubuntu-ey projects.  Even if the Fluxbox one isn't as directly supported.
[12:49] <johan1> Does anyone know the accounting package sql-ledger available from universe?
[12:49] <mnk> oskude, yes i was trying 1600X1200 - which works with the nv driver
[12:49] <gatekeeper> !pastebin
[12:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:49] <raguanu> fyrestrtr: RealTek
[12:49] <reiki> can anyone tell me if I can monitor things like CPU temp and fan speeds in ubuntu? I tried installing sensors and lm-sensors and I get "no sensors found".
[12:49] <fyrestrtr> raguanu: they are well supported in linux. What specific problem are you having?
[12:49] <ompaul> tufsy, switches for allowing you to turn off the machine -  "show actions menu"
[12:49] <oskude> mnk, ok, so youre card should work wiht nvidia-glx..
[12:49] <ic56> tanlaan: wow! Wow!  you should be editing a different file.  Edit the *first* line of file host.dmb .  Surely that line doesn't contain an ampersand?!
[12:49] <fyrestrtr> reiki: your motherboard and chipset may not be supported. It works fine, I have monitors running on my laptop.
[12:50] <mnk> oskude, yes afaik
[12:50] <Lynoure> reiki: Do you have temperatures with   acpi -t
[12:50] <raguanu> fyrestrtr: I have two network cards.
[12:50] <oskude> mnk, are you trying 16 or 24 bit colors ?
[12:50] <fyrestrtr> raguanu: neither work in ubuntu?
[12:50] <mnk> oskude, GeForce2 Go 	0x0112 is in the top section
[12:50] <raguanu> fyrestrtr: one of them is working fine. and other is detected as unknown device in ubuntu.
[12:50] <pl_ice> bloody wless ...
[12:50] <mnk> oskude, erm i dunno
[12:50] <tanlaan> ...i cant edit that file
[12:50] <Stardog> ok...  in dapper rescuemode, what command do i type to start logging in Gnome?
[12:50] <gyro54> In gxine what does "No demuxer found - stream format not recognised."
[12:50] <JuhazOne> well
[12:50] <reiki> Lynoure, running acpi -t I get No support for device type : thermal
[12:51] <fyrestrtr> Stardog: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:51] <JuhazOne> ic56: i got it working. turns out VIA's controller didn't like a hard disk that uses SATA-II. i had to use a jumper to limit it to SATA-I
[12:51] <fyrestrtr> gyro54: missing plugin?
[12:51] <tanlaan> it wont allow me to open up that file
[12:51] <reiki> fyrestrtr, Asus P5LD2 with intel 945 chipset.
[12:51] <ic56> tanlaan: what error are you getting when you try to edit the file?!
[12:51] <lassegs> crimsun, it worked it worked, thanx
[12:51] <Lynoure> reiki: sounds like it very well might not be supported. :/
[12:51] <ic56> JuhazOne: so it was a BIOS problem!
[12:52] <ic56> JuhazOne: thx!
[12:52] <Stardog> fyrestrtr: k thx... shall try it
[12:52] <fyrestrtr> raguanu: what does lspci tell you about the network card/
[12:52] <reiki> Lynoure, darn... brand new system. I kinda want to see how temps are doing before I tuck everything away...
[12:52] <gyro54> fyrestrtr: thanks
[12:52] <tanlaan> when i double click it i get.....Couldnt Display "*insertfile directory here*"
[12:52] <fyrestrtr> raguanu: you might need to enable the module in your kernel.
[12:52] <oskude> mnk, the error in log is "The requested configuration of display devices is not supported in the hardware." so that could meen the resolution/color depth/monitor settings are not correct... try commenting out the monitor horizsync and verticalrefresh values...
[12:53] <gatekeeper> dsas: This doesn't have anything to do with this commercial repos that ubuntu are setting up? I have pasted the repos it is winging about along with the error codes here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17610
[12:53] <ChickenBrain> hi, any similar package than p3nfs arround in ubuntu?
[12:53] <oskude> mnk, or finding the monitor values form your manufacturers maual or webpage...
[12:53] <raguanu> fyrestrtr: lspci shows --> 0000:01:09.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[12:53] <mnk> oskude, all the subsection stuff?
[12:53] <raguanu> 0000:01:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Unknown device 1904:2031 (rev 01)
[12:54] <mnk> oskude, the same stuff works with nv driver though
[12:54] <oskude> mnk, here the lines 119 and 120 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17608
[12:54] <fyrestrtr> raguanu: they are both realtek?
[12:54] <ic56> tanlaan: hmm. in what app are you double-clicking it.  Oh, never mind.  I don't care about your GUI.  Let's get it over with on the CLI.  Tell me what this outputs:  head -1 host.dmb
[12:54] <oskude> mnk, does that 1600x1200 resolution work wiht nv ?
[12:54] <samuli> gatekeeper, no. That's the penguin liberation front repostory and it at least used to be more or less frequently down, so no worries.
[12:54] <mnk> oskude, yes
[12:54] <oskude> mnk, hmm, thats weird..
[12:54] <JuhazOne> well, thanks for your help. :)
[12:54] <crimsun> lassegs: np
[12:55] <ic56> JuhazOne: my pleasure!
[12:55] <raguanu> fyrestrtr: no. I get the following info from WinXP -->    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek Rtl-8139d PCI Fast Ethernet
[12:55] <raguanu> Adapter
[12:55] <raguanu>         Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-E0-20-AE-EE-5B
[12:55] <raguanu> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : CNet FAST200WL PCI Wake On LAN Fast
[12:55] <raguanu> Ethernet Adapter
[12:55] <raguanu>         Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-08-A1-7E-6E-DB
[12:55] <tanlaan> tanlaan@tanlaan:~/Desktop/byond/host$ head -1 host.dmb
[12:55] <tanlaan> #!/usr/local/bin/DreamDaemon -port=auto-trusted-logself-quiet
[12:55] <dsas> gatekeeper: as Samuli said, it's not a Ubuntu repository it's the PLF (unofficial and probably contains illegal things depending on your local laws)
[12:55] <dsas> !enter > tanlaan
[12:55] <gatekeeper> samuli: just have to catch it on a good day then :-)
[12:55] <hybrid> raguanu: pastebin
[12:55] <mnk> oskude, the exact same xorg.conf works with nv driver but not with nvidia driver
[12:56] <ic56> tanlaan: your problems are arising from the fact that installed in an unusual place.  You are having to adjust for that.  Ok, runn the following command... hang on
[12:56] <raguanu> fyrestrtr: looks like CNet FAST200WL doesn't work.
[12:56] <tanlaan> dsas: sorry :-[
[12:56] <raguanu> hybrid: sorry. I am not sure what is pastebin?
[12:56] <fyrestrtr> raguanu: does lsmod list a 8139too module?
[12:56] <oskude> mnk, i allso see this in nvidia xorg log: (WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "1600x1200"; removing.
[12:56] <frogzoo> where does f-spot keep its database, anyone know?
[12:56] <hybrid> !tell raguanu about paste
[12:57] <Dr4g> Hey there fyrestrtr! :)
[12:57] <hybrid> raguanu: no worries. just keep it in mind ;)
[12:57] <mnk> oskude, hmm
[12:57] <fyrestrtr> hello?
[12:57] <raguanu> fyrestrtr: yes it lists 8139too module.
[12:57] <mnk> oskude, odd
[12:57] <cps> frogzoo: ~/.gnome2/f-spot
[12:57] <Dr4g> fyrestrtr: we spoke yday... you probably don't remember
[12:57] <fyrestrtr> raguanu: does it list it as being used?
[12:57] <frogzoo> cps: many thanks
[12:57] <Dr4g> My install CD kept crashing
[12:57] <gatekeeper> dsas: samuli: I was going to upgrade my old test box from breezy to dapper to see what happens, tried installing update-manager but there seems to be bits missing, so I think I have to do it by Method2 and use the CLI :-)
[12:57] <protocol1> raguanu, its a place wher you can paste docs or pics to review with others
[12:57] <ic56> tanlaan: sed -i '1s|/usr/local/bin/DreamDaemon|/usr/bin/env DreamDaemon|' host.dmb
[12:58] <fyrestrtr> raguanu: pastebin the output of lsmod | grep 8139too
[12:58] <dsas> gatekeeper: what do you mean by "bits missing"
[12:58] <samuli> gatekeeper, what do you mean by method2?
[12:58] <samuli> lol
[12:58] <tanlaan> ic56: ok now should i try running it again?
[12:58] <ic56> tanlaan: yes.
[12:58] <fyrestrtr> Dr4g: hope whatever it was, you got it solved :)
[12:59] <oskude> mnk, i would search google if there are known problems with nvidia glx and geforce 2 go
[12:59] <tanlaan> ic56: again i got the cannot execute binary
[12:59] <mnk> oskude, hmm :(
[12:59] <gatekeeper> dsas: hang on... booting up now will retry see what exactly it winges about
[12:59] <Dr4g> fyrestrtr: I tried diff HDD's and diff PC's
[12:59] <darkowl> guys I need help again...
[12:59] <Dr4g> And it wasnt working... So i decided to burn it at 4x speed... and it worked :)
[12:59] <cps> darkowl: just ask your question
[12:59] <dsas> darkowl: Just ask
[12:59] <Dr4g> Hung at 84% for like 15 minutes though :o)
[12:59] <Dr4g> Is that normal ?
[12:59] <fyrestrtr> Dr4g: lol go figure.
[01:00] <darkowl> My CD-ROM is mounted as dev/hda and i need it as mnt/cdrom
[01:00] <tufsy> ompaul: sorry just having my brekkie :), i went to sys admin login - there is a radio button for actions menu - but no options with it that i can see?
[01:00] <mnk> oskude, i was running nvidia driver with redhat 7 years ago - same machine same resolution etc
[01:00] <ic56> tanlaan: let's remove the dot-slash from the reference to host.dmb in host.start script -- put that back the way it was
[01:00] <oskude> mnk, i had geforce 4 and geforce 2 mx, and never had problems...
[01:00] <fyrestrtr> Dr4g: happened to me too, and I had to go back and delete the partitions on the drive and try it again.
[01:00] <tanlaan> ic56: ok
[01:00] <fyrestrtr> Dr4g: sometimes, it doesn't overwrite properly.
[01:00] <Dr4g> fyrestrtr: i tried to install ubuntu 24 times in the past 2 days
[01:01] <fyrestrtr> Dr4g: you should have stopped after the first 3 times.
[01:01] <fyrestrtr> Dr4g: its not gentoo ;)
[01:01] <tanlaan> ic56: oo i posted in the forums for this software *byond* and i got a responce, they say chmod 777 all the files in the bin directory so i can execute the file
[01:01] <Dr4g> lols
[01:01] <Dr4g> There were problems, beyond my control.
[01:01] <tanlaan> ic56: im going to try that, then your way
[01:01] <Dr4g> fyrestrtr: are there any good guides for Ubuntu beginners..
[01:01] <Dr4g> eg: Essential things they should know and/or do.
[01:01] <tanlaan> ic56: so one second
[01:01] <ic56> tanlaan: ok
[01:01] <Dr4g> I've ran the update manager, and i'm downloading updates...
[01:01] <Dr4g> However, i have no rolling papers... so i'm not celebrating the installation with a big joint
[01:02] <fyrestrtr> Dr4g: start reading the wiki, lots of valuable nuggets there. Start with RestrictedFormats
[01:02] <tanlaan> ic56: their way didnt work :(
[01:02] <Dr4g> Okay i'll have a look now :)
[01:02] <Lynoure> tanlaan: 777 is a bit much. That means it does not take even sudo to modify your bins...
[01:02] <cps> darkowl: /dev/hda is the device not the mount point
[01:03] <gatekeeper> dsas: doh should have done a reload to start with installing now... :-)
[01:03] <darkowl> cps: how can I see where my CDROM is mounted ?
[01:03] <ubuntunoob> ok... everytime gnome trying to start, a window shows up and trying to find some hosts on the local area/network. I think i have created this errorr myself... but this error makes me uncapble of logging in gnome... anyone who can help?
[01:03] <tanlaan> ic56: your way didnt work either :(
[01:03] <cps> darkowl: is it mounted at the moment?
[01:03] <ic56> tanlaan: thinking
[01:03] <darkowl> cps:yes but I dont know where
[01:03] <Dr4g> darkowl: type 'mount' and it will list mounted devices..
[01:03] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: what kind of network are you on?
[01:04] <cps> darkowl: do you see a CD icon on the desktop?
[01:04] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: only on my dsl when Im connected
[01:04] <oskude> mnk, what notebook do you have ? maybe this ? http://quark.humbug.org.au/publications/hardware/dell/inspiron-8000.html
[01:04] <darkowl> cps:yes ; Dr4g: /dev/hda on /media/cdrom0
[01:04] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: what does the error say?
[01:04] <mnk> oskude, inspiron 8100
[01:04] <cps> darkowl: then it looks like it is mounted under /media/cdrom0
[01:04] <ic56> tanlaan: have you invoked the setup script, byondsetup.sh ?  Looks like you're supposed to run it at least the first time you install, if not every time you login...
[01:05] <tanlaan> yes i have
[01:05] <darkowl> cps: but can i make it so it mounts itself in mnt/cdrom ?
[01:05] <gyro54> fyrestrtr: I can't find anything regarding plugins.. Any ideas??
[01:05] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: well, it cant find any hosts.... and everytime I aborrt it, the window alt ctrl backspaces
[01:05] <fyrestrtr> gyro54: sorry what?
[01:05] <mnk> oskude, aah yes
[01:05] <cntb> where to put /usr/bin/numlockx toggle activation for startup ?
[01:06] <raguanu> fyrestrtr: lsmod result is in pastebin. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d17611
[01:06] <mnk> oskude, i remember  now havimng to install nvidia kernels too on redhat
[01:06] <cps> darkowl: yes, you just have to change the entry in the /etc/fstab file, and create a cdrom directroy under /mnt
[01:06] <ic56> tanlaan: thinking
[01:06] <cps> darkowl: do you know how do edit fstab?
[01:06] <tanlaan> ic56: ok
[01:06] <grogoreo> hi
[01:06] <Dr4g> brb reboot - my PC takes longer to load than my OS :D
[01:06] <Dr4g> I love ubuntu
[01:06] <Dr4g> bbiab
[01:06] <darkowl> cps: yes
[01:06] <oskude> mnk, here are plenty inspiron 8100s http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/dell.html
[01:06] <darkowl> cps:ill try now
[01:06] <mnk> oskude, is that for xorg too?
[01:07] <cntb> anyone has answr to my q. ?
[01:07] <fyrestrtr> raguanu: hrmm -- do you have mii-tools installed?
[01:07] <cntb> pls read again ! where to put /usr/bin/numlockx toggle activation for startup ?
[01:07] <oskude> mnk, should work too, but backup your old xorg.conf :) (and only try few options first, dont copy things that allready work)
[01:07] <uniq> cntb: /etc/rc.local
[01:08] <cntb> uniq 10x
[01:08] <gyro54> fyrestrtr: The demuxer message. Can't find plugins I am trying to play ASX file and nothing will play it??
[01:08] <fyrestrtr> !numlock > cntb
[01:08] <fyrestrtr> !restrictedformats > gyro54
[01:08] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: when pushing help, it says it lists up every that has the XDMXP activated.... so i guess it has something to do with that. I can add a host... but have not yet found any
[01:08] <gyro54> Thanks
[01:08] <ic56> tanlaan: how many files in that bin directory?
[01:08] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: ermm, you are trying to log into a remote gnome session or a local one?
[01:08] <cntb> fyrestrtr: installed already only have to put it on startup
[01:09] <tanlaan> ic56: 7
[01:09] <grogoreo> how can I manually partition my hard drive using the ubuntu-desktop install/live CD, which I'm on now? Like what command?
[01:09] <raguanu> fyrestrtr: I don't see mii-tools in my synaptic. I see mii-diag and net-tools.
[01:09] <fyrestrtr> grogoreo: you can always use fdisk :)
[01:09] <darkowl> cps: now it wont unmount from media/cdrom0
[01:09] <fyrestrtr> raguanu: try mii-diag, forgot the exact name.
[01:09] <ic56> tanlaan: ok.  let's see them.  pastebin: cd ..; ls -lR
[01:09] <frogzoo> grogoreo: fdisk works for me
[01:09] <cps> darkowl: what does it say?
[01:10] <oskude> mnk, this one seems to be for 8100 http://www.ironorchid.com/jjinux/inspiron_laptop/XF86Config/XF86Config
[01:10] <darkowl> umount: /dev/hda mount disagrees with the fstab eject: unmount of `/media/cdrom0' failed
[01:10] <cps> darkowl: try umount /media/cdrom0
[01:10] <grogoreo> fyrestrtr: ah yes fdisk. I've used cfdisk before. Is there much difference?
[01:10] <fyrestrtr> grogoreo: no, you should be right at home.
[01:10] <Trackilizer> I pressed something and now my desklets show over every application i open like Firefox or x-chat, how do the change this?
[01:10] <darkowl> cps:worked
[01:10] <grogoreo> fyrestrtr: thanks
[01:10] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: I don't know what its trying to do exactly, but that window, is making it uncapable for me to log in Gnome....
[01:10] <cps> darkowl: you have to give it the mount point because you changed the fstab
[01:11] <fyrestrtr> grogoreo: forgot to [insert disclaimer about blowing up your hard disk while using fdisk] 
[01:11] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: i cant log in
[01:11] <lz1gjd> is it possible to install ubuntu with a iso img on a disk partition ?
[01:11] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: okay, does the window just popup when gdm starts, or only when you type your username and password?
[01:11] <tanlaan> http://pastebin.ca/83139
[01:11] <cntb> OK !!!!! /etc/rc.local iwas empty analogous to startup folder in windows
[01:11] <cps> darkowl: and can you now mount it?
[01:11] <darkowl> cps: Everything is wokring, thank you very much...
[01:11] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: no... it pop ups before that
[01:11] <cps> darkowl: no problems
[01:11] <ubuntunoob> right before
[01:11] <darkowl> bye
[01:12] <ic56> tanlaan: let's start by cleaning up.  cd to that bin directory and: chmod 755 *; chmod 644 *.so
[01:12] <lz1gjd> lets suppose i don
[01:12] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: did you do anything to the system out of the norm?
[01:13] <lz1gjd> have a cd/dvd burner and no inet access, only the installation cd's iso , how could I install ?
[01:13] <fyrestrtr> lz1gjd: you don't need net access, just burn the iso and you should be good to go.
[01:13] <tanlaan> ok did that
[01:13] <ic56> tanlaan: btw, I asked you to paste bin from one directory higher.  You realise you're forcing me to keep umpteen windows open with each new pastebin that doesn't contain all the previous stuff?
[01:13] <raguanu> fyrestrtr: mii-diag tells 'eth0 failed: No such device'. More in pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17612
[01:14] <mnk> oskude, but i'm using xorg
[01:14] <Trackilizer> My desklets show over my opened apps like firefox, how do i turn this off?
[01:14] <nana-chan> hi, can anybody name me a IM-Multimessenger like Miranda IM? I dont really like Gaim.
[01:14] <tanlaan> oops, im sorry so you want me to l -lR the byond folder?
[01:14] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: yes.... but i dont know exatctly, when i cant see the menu in front of me, but i changed in the system/admin. from standard to choose... and then rebooted
[01:14] <oskude> mnk, xorg came from xfree, the config files are similar (when not even exactly the same) but as i said, just try different monitor and nvidia driver options...
[01:15] <lz1gjd> nana-chan: kopete or sim ?
[01:15] <ic56> tanlaan: Yes please.  While you're at it, appned the output from this too: file bin/*
[01:15] <ryanakca> For some reason "HTTP_PROXY=http://localhost:4001" keeps on showing up in "env". each time I have to run "export -n HTTP_PROXY". Is there a way to make it permanent (so that it doesn't keep on showing up)?
[01:15] <oskude> mnk, heres another config for 8100: http://www.kuehnel.org/dell/XF86Config-4
[01:15] <nana-chan> thx, i'll try them
[01:15] <fyrestrtr> raguanu: try loading the 8139too module manually
[01:15] <grogoreo> I want to execute a command for all files and then all folders but can't actually remember all of the bits of it:   find * -type f exec chmod 644 {} \   is that right?
[01:15] <ic56> tanlaan: what is this Dream package anyway?
[01:16] <tanlaan> its Byond
[01:16] <tanlaan> a program to write games
[01:16] <tanlaan> check it out
[01:16] <tanlaan> www.byond.com
[01:16] <oskude> mnk, i would try with the different monitor sync and refresh rates, and then with the nvidia options
[01:16] <mnk> oskude, ok
[01:16] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: hrmm, okay just a sec, you may need to change your gdm conf back to the normal one.
[01:17] <Dr4g> fyrestrtr: Rhythmbox isnt playing mp3's saying necessary plugin needed.. Is this standard, or does it usually play mp3's
[01:17] <raguanu> could you tell me how to unload existing 8139too and manually load it?
[01:17] <mnk> oskude, ok im going to do that
[01:17] <grogoreo> Dr4g, you need the ugly or bad gstreamer plugins
[01:17] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: ok... Im already logged in in the rescumode... only the terminal....
[01:18] <Dr4g> okay grogoreo.
[01:18] <tanlaan> http://pastebin.ca/83141
[01:18] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: okay open up /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[01:20] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr:  permission denied :o even in root %o
[01:21] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: but i can try a sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow gdm ?
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: okay do this, start the computer normally (not in rescuemode).
[01:21] <ubuntunoob> fyre start first......
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: then just hit ctrl+alt+f2 to get a console.
[01:21] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr:  ill try that.... and then wat?
[01:21] <ubuntunoob> ok
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: login with your normal user name and password, then come back here.
[01:22] <XrekcaH> *-* Any Chance Of Kismet Working With ndiswrapper??? *-*
[01:22] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: ok ill try
[01:23] <tanlaan> hmmm i think we have found out my problem :D
[01:23] <webben1> If I'm patching sudo, does anyone have any idea how i could test sudo-ldap?
[01:23] <tanlaan> the linux version i am using....is made for the x86 structure, not PPC *which is what im running
[01:23] <ic56> tanlaan: I recommend you report a bug: DreamDaemon doesn't report the filenames of things it has trouble with.  We've been assuming the problem is with host.dmb but it could be something different.  At this point, I'd have to do a lot more work to figure out where the problem is -- I.e. I'd have to start reading DreamDaemon's source, host.dmb's code, etc
[01:23] <tanlaan> this means i need to download the mac version
[01:24] <ryanakca> For some reason "HTTP_PROXY=http://localhost:4001" keeps on showing up in "env". each time I have to run "export -n HTTP_PROXY". Is there a way to make it permanent (so that it doesn't keep on showing up)?
[01:24] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: ok... in a terminal now
[01:24] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: okay, now sudo vi /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[01:24] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: or whatever editor you use.
[01:24] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: k one sec
[01:24] <fyrestrtr> ryanakca: try /etc/profile
[01:24] <fyrestrtr> ryanakca: or you can just stick it in ~/.bashrc
[01:24] <tanlaan>  im sorry for bothering you for so long :(
[01:24] <EdLin> fyrestrtr: are you sure you want a "noob" to edit it with vi? :-)
[01:25] <webben1> Also, when submitting a patch for a package, should i include a diff of each source file i changed, or is there some special command to produce a list of all changes made to a package source? is there an faq on these matters?
[01:25] <tanlaan> i appreciate all your help
[01:25] <Fjodor> Any ideas why my server reboots after grub on a fresh server install?
[01:25] <fyrestrtr> EdLin: too late :(
[01:25] <tanlaan> and i am glad that you helped me get this far
[01:25] <ic56> tanlaan: huh.  the possibility of an incorrect architecture was my first thought.  But I had no easy way to replicate that kind of error on my system and dismissed it as unlikely anway.
[01:25] <sexcopter8000m> when i open things with totem, sometimes the top of the window (menu bar etc) goes off the screen to the top. is there some kind of a geometry argument i can specify to prevent this?
[01:25] <ic56> tanlaan: yw.
[01:25] <tanlaan> well thats ok :D atleast i know whats wrong
[01:25] <fyrestrtr> sexcopter8000m: no, just buy a bigger monitor.
[01:26] <reiki> is compositing still buggy? I'm on a new machine with a 512MB nVidia 7300GT card and would like some eye candy if it's pretty stable
[01:26] <oskude> reiki, xgl isnt even beta, so...
[01:26] <fyrestrtr> reiki: works better on nvidia than ati, I have been running it non-stop for 4 days without hassles.
[01:26] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: ok.... done that... alot of txt is showing now
[01:26] <sexcopter8000m> fyrestrtr, it's 15.4" 1680x1050, isn't that big enough? 
[01:26] <webben1> if there a channel for discussing ubuntu packages?
[01:26] <webben1> s/packages/patches?
[01:26] <XrekcaH> (&&) Will Kismet Work With ndiswrapper??? (&&)
[01:26] <reiki> fyrestrtr, you doing xgl compiz?
[01:26] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: okay scroll down till you reach this line [xdmcp] 
[01:26] <fyrestrtr> reiki: aye.
[01:27] <kakalto> how do I get the k7 kernel to work properly? it won't boot.
[01:27] <fyrestrtr> reiki: don't recommend it if you like to play opengl games though, need to twiddle with it some to get it working.
[01:27] <EdLin> kakalto: are you sure you're runing an AMD64? I think that's what it's for.
[01:27] <oskude> reiki, i loose borders daily, numpad stops working, and even some keys are sometimes missing :/
[01:28] <Fjodor> /join #ubuntu-server
[01:28] <apokryphos> !doesn't work
[01:28] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[01:28] <Fjodor> sorry
[01:28] <reiki> fyrestrtr, I really don't play game much on here at all :)
[01:28] <oskude> reiki, but if you dont bother to restart x regulary, you may have fun ;)
[01:28] <sexcopter8000m> fyrestrtr, found it anyway in the config editor
[01:28] <kakalto> EdLin: uhm. k7-class processor, it says, is "athlon"
[01:28] <kakalto> k8-class would be AMD64
[01:28] <fyrestrtr> reiki: in my experience, it has been "stable" on nvidia and problematic on my ati laptop.
[01:29] <reiki> I'm still trying to figure out why my darn CD drive won't open when I press the button.... sometimes... sometimes it works and sometimes it don't. Like the OS has it locked
[01:29] <glick> excuse me can ubuntu play .mov files?
[01:30] <apokryphos> glick: yes, check the FAQ.
[01:30] <kakalto> no-one got ideas? I'm gonna try to boot the -k7 recovery option.
[01:30] <XrekcaH> Umm... Kismet anyone?
[01:30] <fyrestrtr> never heard of it XrekcaH, sorry.
[01:30] <XrekcaH> really
[01:30] <snooo> hi, can someone help me. I'm having constant problems with updating Ubuntu packages - every package that comes up in updates cannot be authenticated by apt-get. is this a widespread problem or something i can fix?
[01:31] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: ok found it
[01:31] <Sub> snooo, it must be the repositories your using dont have their keys
[01:31] <webben1> snoo: probably a temporary problem: how long has this been happening?
[01:31] <Sub> snooo, you need to add the keys
[01:31] <Sub> !easysource
[01:31] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:31] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: okay, does it say Enable=true after it? Look a few lines down.
[01:32] <oskude> snooo, or, are you using non official reposities ?
[01:32] <snooo> webben1: on and off for a bit for a few days
[01:32] <snooo> i'll just check my sources.list
[01:32] <bigfoot1> http://www.thesecret.tv/movie/trailer.html <--- how can i watch this on ubuntu?
[01:32] <fyrestrtr> its a secret! you are not supposed to watch it!
[01:32] <snooo> i only use one unoffical repository
[01:32] <snooo> and that was kbuntu.org
[01:32] <XrekcaH> heh
[01:33] <snooo> for kubuntu even
[01:33] <bina> hi, does anyone know what package a program called freetype-config is in? I tried searching for it using apt-cache but couldnt find anything
[01:33] <ryanakca> fyrestrtr: so... something like this: http://pastebin.ca/83145 ? (I've never touched /etc/profile before...
[01:33] <samuli> err, that url just needs java
[01:33] <oskude> snooo, and which repo gives problems ?
[01:33] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: enable= false
[01:33] <snooo> um, i can't tell, how do u find out?
[01:33] <XrekcaH> Bigfoot1, is it a Windows media player embeded in the site?
[01:33] <oskude> snooo, run "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[01:33] <snooo> yep
[01:34] <samuli> firefox wants me to install java.
[01:34] <Dr4g> Synaptic i s just as good as apt-get.. yes ?
[01:34] <samuli> on that site.
[01:34] <oskude> snooo, fyi: i get 404 with de.archive.ubuntu.com now for hours...
[01:34] <bigfoot1> XrekcaH: i don't know. please check it out
[01:34] <Nameeater> where does gnome keep its printer info?
[01:34] <snooo> i just get the same screen
[01:34] <dragon> i need some help installing
[01:34] <samuli> bigfoot1, I'd say it's java you're needing.
[01:34] <snooo> packages come up, i press yes, then it says they cannot be authenticated
[01:34] <dragon> lots of people keep giving me comand lines n stuff
[01:34] <bigfoot1> samitheberber: i've got jave
[01:35] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: okay, scroll down to where it says [servers] 
[01:35] <bigfoot1> java
[01:35] <samuli> bigfoot1, do apt-cache search jre
[01:35] <bigfoot1> not a big deal
[01:35] <bigfoot1> it's not some sort of scam
[01:35] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: ok
[01:35] <bigfoot1> sorry, it IS some sort of scam
[01:35] <bigfoot1> don't need to watch the trailel
[01:35] <bigfoot1> r
[01:35] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: you'll have to scroll for a bit.
[01:35] <XrekcaH> ok
[01:35] <Dr4g> I have AC97 built in sound card... I have alsa configured and no errors came up on install of ubuntu/ASLA. I can play mp3s but i can't hear them ofcourse
[01:35] <Dr4g> Can someone help me troublehsoot this problem?
[01:35] <Dr4g> Please.
[01:35] <oskude> snooo, doesnt it say which repo it cant authenticate ?
[01:35] <snooo> oskude: no
[01:36] <pl_ice> hey, on intalation,does it automatically installs grub? i got windowz on partition,
[01:36] <fyrestrtr> Dr4g: speakers?
[01:36] <snooo> oskude: i've done an update... seems fine now
[01:36] <samuli> bigfoot1, that's what firefox wants to show everything on that site.
[01:36] <fyrestrtr> Dr4g: did you already install the codecs?
[01:36] <Dr4g> Umm..
[01:36] <fyrestrtr> pl_ice: it will setup dual boot for you.
[01:36] <Dr4g> I don't know?
[01:36] <oskude> snooo, lucky you. i get still 404 :(
[01:36] <pl_ice> fyrestrtr thnx
[01:36] <raguanu> *help* How can I unload existing 8139too and manually load it?
[01:36] <fyrestrtr> !mp3 > Dr4g
[01:36] <Dr4g> I can play the files.. i can see it playing on my screen - i just can't hear it
[01:36] <snooo> oskude: maybe cus you're using the de. archive?
[01:36] <snooo> archive.ubuntu is fine
[01:36] <snooo> ah
[01:36] <snooo> no
[01:36] <snooo> i'm getting a 404
[01:37] <Dr4g> fyrestrtr: ^^^^ (up)
[01:37] <soniccol> HI
[01:37] <fyrestrtr> did you setup the codecs Dr4g ?
[01:37] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: I things its "the chooser" in that file i have activated instead of greeter..... any line there i can cange or someting?
[01:37] <oskude> snooo, it has to be problem on their side, i havent changed nothing since install, so i just have to wait...
[01:37] <soniccol> I have a question , does ubuntu linux can decompress .rar file ?
[01:38] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: its all in that file, but we have to do it step by step.
[01:38] <Dr4g> fyrestrtr: I'm not sure.. I downloaded XMMS using synaptic...
[01:38] <Dr4g> The file plays fine,....
[01:38] <fyrestrtr> Dr4g: read what ubotu sent you
[01:38] <snooo> oskude: yeah the update and the repos are prolly just out of step
[01:38] <Dr4g> ok
[01:38] <oskude> soniccol, "sudo apt-get install unrar" (or unrar-nonfree)
[01:38] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: found the [servers]  line?
[01:38] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: k i am i [server]  no
[01:38] <ubuntunoob> yes
[01:39] <Dr4g> fyrestrtr: " Make sure you have enabled the Universe and Multiverse repositories. " How do i do this ?
[01:39] <soniccol> oskude,thanks a lot
[01:39] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: does it say 0=Standard followed by #1=Standard ?
[01:39] <Dr4g> Or is it already done.
[01:39] <fyrestrtr> !repositories > Dr4g
[01:39] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: yes
[01:39] <oskude> soniccol, nothing that google wouldnt have known... or wiki or forums...
[01:39] <fahad> hi
[01:39] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: scroll down a bit, does it say #0=Chooser ?
[01:40] <soniccol> oskude,yeap
[01:40] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: yes
[01:41] <YtseJam> So I bought an Edimax router and now the LiveCD also goes online
[01:41] <YtseJam> Awesome stuff
[01:41] <YtseJam> I couldn't find an IRC client in the LiveCD, is there one? :)
[01:41] <root_> how do i start the user administration from terminal ?
[01:42] <dsas> YtseJam: There's gaim or irssi (terminal app)
[01:42] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: yes it does
[01:42] <YtseJam> dsas, how do I start it (irssi)?
[01:42] <dsas> root_: users-admin (I hope you're not IRCing as root)
[01:42] <root_> no
[01:42] <root_> im not :)
[01:42] <dsas> YtseJam: Go to a terminal and type irssi
[01:43] <wildman> hello, does anyone know if there are dapper x86_64 packages for Eclipse 3.2 ?
[01:43] <dsas> YtseJam: I've never used it so I couldn't tell you how to use it.
[01:43] <Dr4g> dsas:  I'm on this URL; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:43] <Dr4g> It tells me to download lots of packages on synaptic...theres ALOT of packages that don't appear in my list... like gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
[01:44] <mormoloc> hello, Im looking for a free stock (market) chart analysing tool for ubuntu?
[01:44] <oskude> Dr4g, read it againg, from start...
[01:44] <dsas> Dr4g: You need to enable the multiverse and universe repositories
[01:44] <Dr4g> ok.. sorry.
[01:45] <Dr4g> Yes i'm in the repo part right now :)
[01:45] <rambo3> Dr4g, did you fix grub
[01:45] <oskude> Dr4g, thats good :)
[01:45] <reiki> can't seem to find anything for monitoring temps that'll work with this Asus board... I wonder if I install vmware on here and put XP in a VM if that'll work...
[01:45] <Dr4g> It fixed itself..
[01:46] <jpaisneto> hi
[01:46] <dabaR> hi. what is the group for plugandplay detection of camera devices?
[01:46] <damo22> hi, i need some help patching ubuntu kernel source 2.6.15 to 2.6.15-rt9 with ingo's patch.... anyone tried it??
[01:46] <[zero] > how do you connect a Sony NWA3000 MP3 player to linux?
[01:47] <skavenge> is there a way to change the emulation in a terminal window? I have a bunch of characters in epic4 that show up as ?s instead of the character its supposed to be when running epic4 in a window on my desktop, anyway to fix this?
[01:47] <Dr4g> I enabled all REPO's now oskude
[01:47] <dabaR> [zero] : use a cable
[01:47] <jpaisneto> why can't I enter in #ubuntu-pt?
[01:47] <[zero] > haha yeh but I mean what program should I use to put music onto it?
[01:47] <straycat> an advice for fans of linux distros: is there real significance in caring about new versions of a distro? it's mostly a face-lift of the FORM; if you really want to contribute to a public endeavor, join Wikipedia or MIT OCW; those are really about develoopment of useful CONTENT.
[01:47] <Shannon1> good morning everyone ,, I would need a little help in solving 2 littles glitches in my new 6.06 installation, can anyone help me?
[01:47] <AndyCooll_> zero: Does it use Connect software?
[01:47] <jpaisneto> why can't I enter in #ubuntu-pt?
[01:47] <jpaisneto> please
[01:48] <jpaisneto> someone help me
[01:48] <[zero] > AndyCooll_: it has a disk but its for windows and mac osx
[01:48] <oskude> Dr4g, what ever _all_ is, then you have to get the new list of available applications, dunno how thats done in synaptic, but on console its "sudo apt-get update", then you should find the packages
[01:48] <dabaR> jpaisneto: did you say stuff like straycat above?
[01:48] <jpaisneto> dabaR
[01:48] <concept10> Shannon1, just ask your question
[01:48] <jrib> jpaisneto: I'm there, what happens when you enter this: /join #ubuntu-pt
[01:49] <jpaisneto> nothing
[01:49] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: and next step is ? :)
[01:49] <jrib> jpaisneto: what client are you using?
[01:49] <AndyCooll_> Zero: Hmmm... my missus has a Sony player. The only way I've ever been able to transfer stuff is through Windoze
[01:49] <jpaisneto> jrib
[01:49] <jpaisneto> client?
[01:49] <rpedro> jpaisneto: look in the server log window
[01:49] <[zero] > AndyCooll_: ok, thankx anyways
[01:49] <snoops> is there an application manager? eg I want all links to open in firefox
[01:49] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: just a sec
[01:49] <AndyCooll_> zero: I have a VMware XP image just for that
[01:49] <jrib> jpaisneto: like xchat, irssi.  The program that you use to talk to use on irc
[01:49] <jpaisneto> mirc
[01:49] <dabaR> what is the group for plugandplay detection of camera devices?
[01:50] <Dr4g> I've enabled all REPO's... but i don't see this " gstreamer0.10-pitfdll"
[01:50] <Shannon1> concept10:  thx,, my mouse doesnt work on my laptop ,, just the button in center of keyboard,, it worked in live cd but not once installed, its a PS2 that was connected at the time of install
[01:50] <jpaisneto> jrib... im using mirc
[01:50] <oskude> snoops, system - preferences - preferred applications
[01:50] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: do this, hit esc, then :q then hit enter (this will exit you out)
[01:50] <snoops> ta
[01:50] <jrib> jpaisneto: do other rooms work?
[01:50] <jpaisneto> this room work
[01:51] <SonicChao> jpaisneto: Try another client...
[01:51] <jrib> jpaisneto: try to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:51] <jpaisneto> but in other servers work
[01:51] <jpaisneto> jrib... i cant
[01:51] <jpaisneto> in this server no
[01:51] <Shannon1> concept10: running 6.06 with 2.6.15.25
[01:51] <jpaisneto> but in other one a can
[01:51] <SonicChao> jpaisneto: Try another client.........
[01:51] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: done
[01:51] <dromen> grrrrrrr, i followed this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166976&highlight=Xauthorization  guys advice and now i cant boot into gnome
[01:51] <concept10> Shannon1, try to unplug it and plug it back in
[01:51] <jrib> jpaisneto: are you on windows now?
[01:51] <jpaisneto> yes
[01:51] <SonicChao> jpaisneto: Kopete, XChat...Open Source has a lot of nice clients
[01:51] <dromen> what should i do ?
[01:51] <fyrestrtr> wait please
[01:52] <SonicChao> jpaisneto: Oh, scratch that, impossible then........
[01:52] <jpaisneto> jrib... yes I am on windpws
[01:52] <jpaisneto> windows
[01:52] <SonicChao> jpaisneto: hello.....?
[01:52] <Shannon1> concept10:  no effect
[01:52] <SonicChao> jpaisneto: You understand this is Ubuntu support, right?
[01:53] <jrib> jpaisneto: hmm, try disconnecting and reconnecting maybe.  Other than that try using a different client.  Maybe trillian?
[01:53] <jpaisneto> jrib
[01:53] <jpaisneto> im not on ubuntu
[01:53] <jpaisneto> im on windows
[01:53] <Dr41> :-/
[01:53] <SonicChao> jrib: Lol...there are no good Windows clients...
[01:53] <dabaR> they have gaim 4 win. gaim.sf.net
[01:53] <Dr41> this is #ubuntu not #windows
[01:53] <SonicChao> jpaisneto: Trillian is for Windows
[01:53] <jpaisneto> SonicChao thank you
[01:53] <dsas> you can also use mozilla IRC client on windows.
[01:54] <dromen> can anyone help as i now have an unbootable user ubuntu system
[01:54] <Dr41> SonicChao: I've enabled all REPO's but i don't see this file in Synaptic... " gstreamer0.10-pitfdll"
[01:54] <SonicChao> !anyone > dromen
[01:54] <dromen> SonicChao, ive already pasted my question
[01:54] <SonicChao> Dr41: I'm sorry...I don't know what to do about that.
[01:54] <dromen> got ignored
[01:54] <samuli> dr41, Should there be a file like that?
[01:54] <dabaR> Why does my user djeca not get added to the plugdev group with this command? "sudo adduser djeca plugdev"
[01:54] <SonicChao> dromen: Then paste it AGAIN....
[01:54] <dromen> grrrrrrr, i followed this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166976&highlight=Xauthorization  guys advice and now i cant boot into gnome
[01:55] <SonicChao> dromen: Wait for the forums
[01:55] <jrib> dabaR: did you logout and log back in with him?
[01:55] <SonicChao> dromen: It's a bad idea to paste forum links in an IRC channel
[01:55] <concept10> Shannon1, try reading this :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[01:55] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: now, do this sudo cp /etc/gdm/gdm.conf /etc/gdm/gdm-orig.conf
[01:55] <dromen> SonicChao, well surely its easier for you to see what i did?
[01:55] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: then, do this sudo rm /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[01:56] <samuli> I'm either sure why posting forum links on a irc-channel is a bad idea.
[01:56] <Shannon1> concept10: k I will ,, for my next glitch,, my linksys wpc54g is not even recognized even if it says its supported in hardware list,, any reason for that,, ?
[01:57] <gatekeeper> dromen: answer anything in your post? http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/917/
[01:57] <SonicChao> dromen: Youre absolutely full of it, looks like you got help to me........
[01:57] <dromen> SonicChao, i dont understand ?
[01:58] <Dr4g> Yes samuli there should be a file like that, its on this URL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:58] <Shannon1> BRB
[01:58] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: then, go to http://pastebin.ca/83156 and copy that text (highlight it, and hit ctrl+c)
[01:58] <SonicChao> dromen: check that page...
[01:58] <SonicChao> dromen: I see lots of other forum posts saying what you could do
[01:58] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: then, create a new gdm.conf file and paste the contents in there, save it, and then reboot the machine.
[01:58] <kakalto> has anyone else had issues booting the -k7 kernel?
[01:58] <SonicChao> dromen: You didnt say whether they worked or not
[01:58] <kakalto> mine won't boot past "OK, booting kernel"
[01:58] <concept10> Shannon1, where did you read that it was supported?
[01:58] <Dr4g> fyrestrtr: what do i do, if i have all REPO's enabled but this file isnt there ?
[01:59] <dromen> SonicChao, i only tried that one, then re-booted and now i cant boot gnome
[01:59] <fyrestrtr> Dr4g: enable universe and multiverse
[01:59] <oskude> kakalto, i got k7 kernel on my desktop, no issues...
[01:59] <gatekeeper> SonicChao: does he want startgnome ?
[01:59] <kakalto> oskude: ohk.
[01:59] <RiotingP> can wine run most windows programs?
[02:00] <kakalto> btw, I have a wireless kb/mouse combo which plug in with 1 USB, does that make a difference?
[02:00] <SonicChao> gatekeeper: He's really confusing me, I think he broke GNOME, and now he can't boot it....
[02:00] <Hexidigital_> RiotingP:: some, not most.... and definitely not all
[02:00] <dromen> SonicChao, your correct i cant boot gnome and its happend as a result of following those forum posts
[02:00] <gatekeeper> RiotingP: If you look on the wine site it tells you which programs it can run and what some of the problems might be
[02:01] <oskude> kakalto, can you test with a "normal" keyboard and mouse ?
[02:01] <Dr4g> Is there a quick way to enable universe+multiverse for ALL repo's rather than having to do it manually..
[02:01] <Dr4g> -
[02:01] <firedrops> hi there. i am looking for an app that cycles backgrounds..does someone know one that does that kind of stuff?
[02:01] <Hexidigital_> Dr4g:: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[02:01] <kakalto> oskude: can do. but the other thing is, -386 kernel works fine, so why should the same hardware have issues with the -k7?
[02:01] <River> Good evening clever people ...i appear to be logged into Ubuntu twice on my puter ... can anyone tell me how to log out of one and get into the other ?
[02:01] <dromen> Dr4g, you can do it in synaptic?
[02:01] <SonicChao> dromen: Hm...I had a similar problem, did you back up you're /home folder?
[02:01] <tpgterror> hi
[02:01] <dromen> under repositories
[02:02] <oskude> kakalto, sorry, missunderstand that. no i think it should be a problem to have mouse and keyboard in one port (through usb hub) but i never had such configuration
[02:02] <Shannon1> bk
[02:02] <tpgterror> I need help with downloading WINE
[02:02] <Eazy-> SonicChao: please explain why it is a bad idea to post forum links here (I want to follow the rules in this chan)
[02:02] <oskude> kakalto, what processor do you have ?
[02:02] <dromen> SonicChao, my home is still there i booted into recovery mode and gnome loaded as root user
[02:02] <cps> River: is this two graphical logins?
[02:02] <kakalto> oskude: Athlon
[02:02] <dromen> could view all the files and edit them
[02:02] <Dr4g> dromen: i am doing that, howeevr i was curious to know if i could set all repo's to use both.. by the click of a button, or not :)
[02:02] <SonicChao> Eazy-: It isn't exactly a "rule", but it is easier if you say the problem to get help...either than reading through hundreds of forum posts
[02:02] <gatekeeper> SonicChao: spoke to a developer in #kubuntu and suggested they needed a roleback option, he didn't say a lot but I think we need to encourage them to come up with one for when people hose their system
[02:02] <River> cps: i believe so
[02:02] <Dr4g> I've done it now anyway
[02:03] <kakalto> oskude: 3000+, underclocked
[02:03] <oskude> kakalto, and what package did you install ? (for k7 kernel)
[02:03] <dromen> lol Dr4g dont be so lazy :P
[02:03] <tpgterror> could anybody help me with WINE?
[02:03] <SonicChao> gatekeeper: Right on, we do need that....you're absolutely right
[02:03] <Eazy-> SonicChao: k
[02:03] <kakalto> linux-k7 I think
[02:03] <cps> River: you just have to go System > Logout and choose logout and you should be retured to the other login
[02:03] <SonicChao> gatekeeper: I've hosed my system before on accident
[02:03] <kakalto> oskude: linux-k7, I think
[02:03] <Shannon1> concept10: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[02:03] <dromen> gatekeeper, that sounds good, i could do with that now :P
[02:03] <oskude> kakalto, ok, hmm... and what does exactly happen when you boot ?
[02:03] <gatekeeper> SonicChao: what's the best way to apply pressure?
[02:03] <SonicChao> gatekeeper: We need to be able to role back, similar to MS-DOS, where you type "sysrestore"
[02:04] <kakalto> nothing. it gets to "Decompressing linux... OK, booting kernel"
[02:04] <SonicChao> dromen: Do you have acess to GNOME somehow?
[02:04] <dromen> yes
[02:04] <dromen> as root only
[02:04] <SonicChao> kakalto: How long has this been happening
[02:04] <dromen> using recovery mode
[02:04] <kakalto> when under recovery mode, I get no specific errors, but there is little weird stuff about keyboard and mouse
[02:04] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr:  shall i do the link at the other machine or cam i log in go gnome and use a browser there to copy the text?
[02:04] <dromen> but not as my default user
[02:04] <SonicChao> dromen: Get a CD, back up /home partiton, and re-install Ubuntu. That's what I did.
[02:04] <fyrestrtr> whatever you feel comfortable doing.
[02:04] <dromen> hmm
[02:04] <kakalto> SonicChao: I only installed kubuntu today, am just trying to get -k7 kernel working
[02:05] <dromen> SonicChao, home is 20gb :'(
[02:05] <SonicChao> kakalto: Kubuntu? Ask in #kubuntu
[02:05] <eamo> Hi, printer problem - udevstart command not found?
[02:05] <tpgterror> What problem do you got Dromen?
[02:05] <oskude> kakalto, hmm, i think it should save log somewhere for boot before... so you could read it with the 386 kernel... or maybe you see more error messages in ctrl+alt+f1 during boot
[02:05] <River> cps: I have tried to logout and I go back to the login screen. When i log in, i simply start a new session with no option to switch to the existing session
[02:05] <SonicChao> dromen: You're gonna need a lot of cDs! XD
[02:05] <kakalto> SonicChao: the Desktop environment has nothing to do with it. and I'm likely to get more help here.
[02:05] <SonicChao> dromen: Try to only take what is important, I guess...
[02:05] <dromen> tpgterror, ii followed this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166976&highlight=Xauthorization  guys advice and now i cant boot into gnome with regular user
[02:05] <SonicChao> kakalto: Okay...
[02:05] <concept10> Shannon1, you have to use ndiswrapper
[02:06] <dromen> SonicChao, yeh that will be my last resort or clear up a partition
[02:06] <kakalto> SonicChao: basically, if you know the differences between k/ubuntu, my problem is before those differences even start.
[02:06] <SonicChao> dromen: I am sorry I can't help you, if you don't get help, remember what I said. :)
[02:06] <kakalto> oskude: well, if I boot in "recovery", it gives verbose output
[02:07] <kakalto> oskude: but I might check out, see if I can find such a log. /var/log/somewhere?
[02:07] <cps> River: ok then try pressing <Ctrl><Alt><F7>, if that doesn't work try some different F keys in place of <F7>, ones above F7
[02:07] <dromen> SonicChao, kk wth was that link about windows to ubuntu  ??
[02:07] <dromen> tpgterror, any ideas?
[02:07] <oskude> kakalto, yup
[02:07] <kakalto> oskude: cheers
[02:07] <oskude> kakalto, i never had problems with kernels, so dunno how the log is called :)
[02:07] <concept10> Shannon1, search for ndiswrapper in the wiki, its easy to setup if you have the windows driverss
[02:08] <kakalto> oskude: I'm sure I'll finde it :)
[02:08] <oskude> kakalto, but when you have the error log, we can help better...
[02:08] <River> cps: thanks ... do I do this in the current session, in the terminal window or at login or doesn't it matter
[02:08] <tpgterror> Hmm not rly, i dont got problems with that Dromen... srry
[02:08] <pl_ice> hey, any chance to make look good grub on the new ubuntu? kinda looks primitive :)
[02:08] <cps> River: just press the keys
[02:08] <kane77> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[02:09] <gatekeeper> kakalto: there is kernel HowTo in the Ubuntu forums I don't know if that is of any help?
[02:09] <kane77> what can I do???
[02:09] <mnk> oskude, u there?
[02:09] <cps> River: just keep trying F keys until you either get back to the current login or find the other one
[02:09] <Dr4g> oskude: i've downloaded all packs for playing MP3's, so my sound problem ISNT codecs
[02:09] <Dr4g> oskude: any ideas?
[02:09] <oskude> mnk, yup
[02:09] <kakalto> gatekeeper: link me up? I'm not sure which one you're talking about
[02:09] <gnomefreak> kane77: sudo apt-get update
[02:09] <tpgterror> I had a error when upgrading... now i cant install alot of packages ... dont know why is that :(
[02:09] <oskude> Dr4g, do you get any sound ?
[02:09] <mnk> oskude, can u pls paste me the links for those xorg.conf files again#?
[02:09] <Dr4g> none
[02:09] <kane77> gnomefreak, that's what I get running apt-get update...
[02:09] <gatekeeper> kakalto: hang on... have to try and find it again
[02:09] <mnk> oskude, i tried reducing the resolution and commenting out the lines u told me to - no luck!
[02:09] <oskude> mnk, btw, sad that this doesnt have the xorg.conf file :( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron8100
[02:09] <gnomefreak> kane77: is it just that once that you go tit?
[02:10] <dromen> SonicChao, i think im going to try and create a new user then copy there Xauthorization file
[02:10] <gnomefreak> got it
[02:10] <dromen> would that work ?
[02:10] <mnk> oskude, i also tried to install nvidia-kernel but no luck
[02:10] <oskude> mnk, heres 2 http://quark.humbug.org.au/publications/hardware/dell/XF86Config-4-new and http://www.kuehnel.org/dell/XF86Config-4
[02:10] <Shannon1> Broadcom (BCM4306 rev3) wpc54g v1.2 is supposed to be recognized,, and need a fix to work,, but since im very new to linux, didnt quite understood what it say,, can you guid eme in doinfg procedure?
[02:10] <kane77> gnomefreak, yes the firest time...
[02:10] <Hexidigital_> !bcm43xx > Shannon1
[02:10] <gnomefreak> kane77: run it again
[02:10] <Dr4g> oskude: no i don't get any sound whatsoever
[02:11] <mnk> oskude, i get: Package nvidia-kernel is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:11] <tpgterror> Dromen?
[02:11] <norbert79> Good afternoon
[02:11] <dromen> yes
[02:11] <jrib> dromen: did you delete ~/.Xauthority ?
[02:11] <oskude> Dr4g, then i would suggest you go through this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:11] <kakalto> oskude: the most recent entries from the kern.log.0 are about bluetooth.
[02:11] <gnomefreak> !gpgerr > kane77
[02:11] <Shannon1> as for the windows driver,, I dont have that,, other that a executable package from linksys,, 15 mg ,, how do i get just the driver
[02:11] <mnk> oskude, also - is the xfree86.conf file same as the xorg.conf? ie can i use the same as the xfree86 one for my xorg?
[02:11] <dromen> yes jrib :(
[02:11] <kane77> gnomefreak, there's this: Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release
[02:11] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr:  cant get in to gnome UI, but i have kubuntu-desktop installet... is there something i could do to log in to the kdm and then chnge the things?
[02:11] <gnomefreak> kane77: read your pm from ubotu
[02:11] <dromen> have i killed it ?
[02:12] <oskude> kakalto, hmm, that shouldnt stop it from booting...
[02:12] <Dr4g> tyvm oskude i'll look - thanks for the help
[02:12] <jrib> dromen: just logout of gnome and then back in
[02:12] <dromen> jrib
[02:12] <kane77> gnomefreak, OK i will
[02:12] <dromen> not working
[02:12] <dromen> cant login
[02:12] <jrib> dromen: do you get errors?
[02:12] <tpgterror> Dromen check your private messages to the left
[02:12] <kakalto> oskude: I did remove all signs of bluetooth from my system (all libraries and software), but yeah, I wouldn't think that'd stop it booting either
[02:12] <oskude> mnk, i said that earlier, they a pretty similar (when not even the same) but not the file name !
[02:12] <dromen> tpgterror, dont have any
[02:12] <Shannon1> Hexidigital_: I saw a coupple of ! before sentences ,, what does i tmean?
[02:12] <oskude> kakalto, pastebin the log
[02:12] <dromen> jrib, no errors just login shows my username in terminal then loggedout
[02:13] <concept10> Shannon1, what card did you say you have?
[02:13] <mnk> oskude, ok so what do i do with those files? :S
[02:13] <dromen> quite fast
[02:13] <tpgterror> wtf 0_o i do, but ok, want to be friends? :P
[02:13] <dromen> back to login screen
[02:13] <norbert79> Wow, this is some kind of support.. I like it here :)
[02:13] <tpgterror> maby reinstall would help?
[02:13] <Shannon1> concept10: wpc54g v1.2
[02:13] <EdLin> !what are you?
[02:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about what are you?
[02:13] <jrib> dromen: do you have ownership of your $HOME?
[02:13] <Shannon1> concept10: linksys
[02:13] <stefg> !help
[02:13] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:13] <EdLin> !who are you?
[02:13] <dromen> jrib, i can get into from root
[02:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about who are you?
[02:13] <oskude> mnk, as i said... try the different HorizSync and VertRefresh values
[02:13] <SonicChao> dromen: Have you been getting help
[02:13] <SonicChao> dromen: I've been away
[02:13] <mnk> oskude, oh ok
[02:13] <tpgterror> dromen: want to be friends?
[02:14] <dromen> SonicChao, yes :D
[02:14] <suppaman> hello
[02:14] <EdLin> oops. :-)
[02:14] <mnk> oskude, i had commented them out - shouldn't that have helped?
[02:14] <dromen> tpgterror, what do you mean ?
[02:14] <SonicChao> tpgterror: No place for this...also see myspace
[02:14] <oskude> mnk, and this nvidia driver option could allso do something Option "NvAGP" "3"
[02:14] <suppaman> how do I install from a Desktop cd ?
[02:14] <gatekeeper> kakalto: (warning I am guessing :-) ) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84174&highlight=compile+kernels
[02:14] <oskude> mnk, dunno
[02:14] <tpgterror> sonicChao: wtf?!
[02:14] <tpgterror> i dont understand u
[02:14] <mnk> oskude, ok
[02:14] <jrib> dromen: pastebin this:   ls -ld /home/username && ls -l /home/username
[02:14] <kakalto> gatekeeper: keep in mind I didn't roll my own =)
[02:15] <dromen> jrib, means i have to reboot
[02:15] <norbert79> ubotu: how do I install from a Desktop cd ?
[02:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about how do I install from a Desktop cd ?
[02:15] <oskude> mnk, but the best would be if this had a working xorg.conf included :/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron8100
[02:15] <SonicChao> soniccol: This is a support channel. Not "Lets be friends like MySpace" channel, you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want
[02:15] <pl_ice> suppaman on the new ubuntu, on the desktop there is a GUI for it
[02:15] <jrib> dromen: how come?
[02:15] <norbert79> ubotu: install from a Desktop cd
[02:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about install from a Desktop cd
[02:15] <SonicChao> woops
[02:15] <dromen> on windows
[02:15] <tpgterror> hmm k
[02:15] <dromen> dont want to run irc as root user
[02:15] <SonicChao> tpgterror: This is a support channel. Not "Lets be friends like MySpace" channel, you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want
[02:15] <jrib> dromen: just make a new user temporarily
[02:15] <suppaman> pl_ice: do you mean from menu ?
[02:16] <SonicChao> soniccol: sorry, wrong person, pressed "tab" at the wrong time...:D
[02:16] <dromen> jrib, thats what i just thought off, will you be around after re-boot ?
[02:16] <jrib> dromen: sure
[02:16] <tpgterror> sonicChao: i saw that :)
[02:16] <dromen> ok ty jrib
[02:16] <kakalto> oskude: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17618
[02:16] <pl_ice> suppaman did u run the ubuntu? then on the Desktop thereis icon to install it, that what u meant? i just did it(thnx guys)
[02:16] <tpgterror> Does somebody know how to install WINE here?
[02:16] <River> cps: I used the ctrl alt f keys to find the other session and found none so i ctrl alt backspace to restart gnome. When I ssh'd from another pc, it showed only the ssh user logged on
[02:16] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: where shall i save the new gdm.conf file
[02:16] <ubuntunoob> ?
[02:17] <jrib> !wine > tpgterror
[02:17] <River> cps: when i logged on and checked users in a terminal window, it showed me, twice and the ssh user
[02:17] <oskude> kakalto, hmm, dont see any errors at the end...
[02:17] <EdLin> tpgterror: enable your universe repository and apt-get or use synaptic to install it.
[02:17] <cps> River: what command did you use to check users?
[02:18] <tpgterror> EdLin: how doi do that? enabling universe
[02:18] <tpgterror> !wine
[02:18] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:18] <suppaman> pl_ice: lol no, I'm not running it, I last ran a live before dapper drake release
[02:18] <River> cps: typed in "users"
[02:18] <SonicChao> !repos > tpgterror
[02:18] <tpgterror> !repos
[02:18] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:18] <kakalto> oskude: neither. the other weird thing is I didn't see all the output up till bluetooth when I booted it.
[02:18] <jrib> tpgterror: please don't do that, just read the info in your private messages
[02:18] <pl_ice> suppaman sorry then , mis understood the question :)
[02:18] <concept10> Shannon1, there are two different ways to configure your card.  Using the bcm43xx drivers or ndiswrapper (wraps windows drivers for linux use)  There are many nice tutorials in the forums to do this.
[02:18] <kakalto> oskude: unless the verbose output just randomly stopped, and I should leave the comp for a few minutes, see if it boots?
[02:19] <cps> River: that's right if it shows you twice, once for your GNOME session and the other for the terminal you have open
[02:19] <concept10> Shannon1, I saw an easy one the other day, im trying to find it
[02:19] <oskude> kakalto, hmm, there shouldt be a long time wihtout disk activity at boot...
[02:19] <tpgterror> jrib: sorry, i didnt know that was possible in xchat, sorry for my new-being action
[02:19] <River> cps: true ? wow ... so i have been chasing my own tail ...
[02:19] <kakalto> oskude: mm, true.
[02:19] <cps> River: try opening new terminal tabs and you should see another you added to the list :-)
[02:20] <jrib> tpgterror: np, just help cut down on the traffic that way
[02:20] <cps> River: yeah it seems like it ;-)
[02:20] <rlj_> does reiserfs have support for bad blocks and if so, how do i scan and mark them?
[02:20] <oskude> kakalto, im not a wizard in kernel stuff, so maybe try reainstalling the linux-k7 package
[02:20] <River> cps: oh yikes ... how embarrassment ! I do apologise for wasting your time ... thanks very much for your help
[02:20] <kakalto> oskude: "mark for reinstallation"?
[02:21] <oskude> kakalto, could be... i use "sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-k7"
[02:21] <Shannon1> concept10: thx,, let me know,, I'd like to have it as painless as possible,, im on my second week under linux
[02:21] <cps> River: that's alright, just remember to give as many details as you can when you ask a question. Eg. if you had said that the output of users shows you multiple times I would have twigged earlier
[02:21] <kakalto> oskude: ok. will try.
[02:22] <oskude> kakalto, but i would allso clear the cache "sudo apt-get clean" so it would download the kernel agai
[02:22] <Dr4g> Some sound devices won't unmute.. like AUX and such... How do enable this ?
[02:22] <Dr4g> -
[02:22] <kakalto> oskude: =/ not sure about downloading it again
[02:22] <kakalto> might just hit the hay and mess with it tomorrow.
[02:22] <fyrestrtr> ubuntunoob: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[02:22] <River> cps: my bad .. thanks again
[02:22] <kakalto> cheers anyway =)
[02:22] <tpgterror> Does somebody know what i need to edit in the sources.list to enable Universe?
[02:23] <lagerimsi> !repos
[02:23] <jrib> tpgterror: did you take a look at the wiki page about universe?
[02:23] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:23] <thyko> is it advisable for me to use the backports repository?
[02:23] <thyko> i just installed ubuntu
[02:24] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: k thax... i shall se if this i donable :)
[02:24] <oskude> kakalto, when you do "sudo apt-get clean" it cleans your local cache of downloaded packages, so when you install the same files, it will download them (what ever tool you use to install)
[02:24] <tpgterror> jrib: dont think so auctully, i readed where i need to go and i need to edit Something in that map but dont know what
[02:24] <jrib> thyko: do you understand what they are?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> thyko: backport repos are use at your own risk
[02:25] <jrib> tpgterror: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories   if this page isn't clear, then we need to edit it.  Just let us know
[02:25] <Dr4g> MY SOUND NOW WORKS :D
[02:25] <Dr4g> wooohoooo :o)
[02:25] <lagerimsi> what do you mean with the commands or whatever they are beginning with a ! where should I run them? wiki forum console ????
[02:25] <oskude> Dr4g, what was the problem ?
[02:25] <thyko> jrib: new untested stuff?
[02:25] <suppaman> bye
[02:25] <Dr4g> I have surround sound system.. not a standard set of speakers..
[02:25] <Dr4g> It was operating in 2channel mode, instead of 4
[02:26] <Dr4g> changed to 4.. started working
[02:26] <oskude> Dr4g, ah ok, cool
[02:26] <jrib> thyko: they are packages from the development release that are deemed safe to use by the backports team, but they are "use at your own risk" as gnomefreak said
[02:26] <Dr4g> whats the diff between 4 and 6 ?
[02:26] <Dr4g> It works on both.
[02:26] <oskude> Dr4g, 6 is 2 more ;)
[02:26] <Foobal> 6 = 5.1
[02:26] <Dr4g> clever boy
[02:26] <Dr4g> Foobal: whats 4?
[02:26] <Foobal> 3.1 ? 2.2 ? no idea
[02:27] <Dr4g> okay, cool.
[02:27] <Fjodor> Anyone have a fix for my machine rebooting right after grub?
[02:27] <Dr4g> 5.1 sounds nice :)
[02:27] <thyko> hmm ... thanks for the advice
[02:27] <Shannon1> concept10: as for the earlier document on mouse,, im reading xorg.conf,, in the input device section,, and im lost,, there is so many thing ,, how do I know what is the right thing
[02:27] <Dr4g> Whats a good method of downloading, apart from torrent ?
[02:28] <jrib> thyko: personally, I don't use them unless I really like a particular package that has been backported
[02:28] <cps> Dr4g: downloading what?
[02:28] <stefg> Fjodor: what kernel parameters do you use? are all paths correct? Could be that no inird.img is founf or the initramfs is broken
[02:28] <tpgterror> jrib: ok i readed it, but i still dont know what to do, so its in a program or i need to search for stuff in the repo maps or something?
[02:28] <Dr4g> cps.. music, movies, software.
[02:28] <cps> Dr4g: aMule, apt-get :-P
[02:29] <oskude> Dr4g, you mean copyrighted stuff ? buy them.
[02:29] <cntb> !autologin
[02:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about autologin
[02:29] <jrib> tpgterror: k, did you click "Managing Repostiores in Ubuntu" or did you go for "Command Line"?
[02:29] <Dr4g> is that like eMule ?
[02:29] <Fjodor> stefg: Just booting the rescue option from CD to check the initrd file. Options are root=/dev/hda1 (/boot is hda3, so paths start with /, not /boot
[02:29] <Dr4g> cps: ^
[02:29] <cntb> amule ?
[02:30] <cps> Dr4g: it's a wxwidgets port I think
[02:30] <threeseas> hello
[02:30] <Dr4g> is it better than limewire ?
[02:30] <Shannon1> its says input device identifier :configured mouse, driver : mouse, option core pointer, option device /dev/input/mice, protocol ExplorerPS/2 ZAxis Mapping 4 5 Emulate3buttons true
[02:30] <gnomefreak> whats the command to reset menus (i dont mean panels)
[02:30] <Dr4g> Hi threeseas.
[02:30] <tpgterror> jrib: the first one, managing in ubuntu
[02:30] <stefg> Fjodor: you are aware tjat grub doesn't know about / only about hd0,0 and hd0,2
[02:31] <stefg> !grub
[02:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:31] <Fjodor> stefg: Yes, my bad. Am aware
[02:31] <threeseas> each morning , like as in now, my system does alot of disk movement and the system is slow and clunkly, why?
[02:31] <Dr4g> cps is aMule > limewire ?
[02:31] <ks1> threeseas, most likely a cron job.
[02:31] <ks1> like updatedb
[02:31] <Fjodor> stefg: btw, lilo does the same. Tried installing it over, am now at grub again
[02:31] <cps> Dr4g: you'd have to try it out yourself
[02:31] <stefg> threeseas: anacron doing it's thing... checking for updates, cleaning up, prelinking
[02:31] <Dr4g> Okay.
[02:31] <Shannon1> so according to this mouse should be active, ,but only dinky in center of keyboard works,, and as I said center button in keyboard and PS2 mouse were working in live cd,,
[02:32] <cntb> why lilo when there is grub ?
[02:32] <tpgterror> jrib: So i clicked on Managing in ubuntu
[02:32] <gatekeeper> threeseas: could be fiel indexing have a look at your processes to see what is happening
[02:32] <stefg> Fjodor: Old box? tried acpi=off apm=power_off?
[02:32] <Fjodor> cntb: To test whether it was a grub-only issue
[02:32] <jrib> tpgterror: k, then on that page it tells you to open up system > administration > software properties
[02:32] <Dr4g> cps, you have PM
[02:32] <Fjodor> stefg: Old box indeed. Will try in a jiffie
[02:32] <Linux-Hyper> the new ubuntu 6.06 installer keeps crashing :/ at the start of install anyone else had this issue? its the i386 desktop.iso
[02:33] <jrib> Linux-Hyper: what speed did you burn it at?
[02:33] <gatekeeper> Linux-Hyper: yes when I had a bad maxtor HDD
[02:33] <Dr4g> In theme manager, when choosing my theme, i click "Add theme" and it asks me to enter a location or browse... Is this a local location or can it be a URL?
[02:33] <Dr4g> -
[02:33] <Linux-Hyper> gatekeeper mines fine.
[02:33] <cntb> automated logon
[02:33] <Linux-Hyper> Fjodor 48x
[02:33] <oskude> Linux-Hyper, did you do "check cd" option at the boot ? did it say the cd is ok ?
[02:33] <cntb> !automated-logon
[02:33] <Linux-Hyper> ill reburn at the slowest speed
[02:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about automated-logon
[02:34] <Linux-Hyper> thanks
[02:34] <gatekeeper> Linux-Hyper: how do you know?
[02:34] <cntb> !login
[02:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about login
[02:34] <jrib> Linux-Hyper: if it still fails, try the alternate cd
[02:34] <threeseas> gatekeeper: whats the command for showing processes ? ps?
[02:34] <Dr4g> Linux-Hyper: that may well be your problem... my installation kept crashing at 50%..etc
[02:34] <Linux-Hyper> gatekeeper ive recently did a bad sector scan
[02:34] <Dr4g> I burned at a lower speed and it works
[02:34] <oskude> threeseas, ps aux
[02:34] <Linux-Hyper> Dr4g thats prolly my issue too :/
[02:34] <Linux-Hyper> ok guys
[02:34] <Linux-Hyper> im out
[02:34] <Dr4g> have fun
[02:34] <gatekeeper> Linux-Hyper: ok :-)
[02:34] <Linux-Hyper> thanks guys :)
[02:35] <oskude> threeseas, or, ps ax
[02:35] <technician> hi anyone have done failover router in ubuntu ?
[02:35] <Dr4g> In theme manager, when choosing my theme, i click "Add theme" and it asks me to enter a location or browse... Is this a local location or can it be a URL?
[02:35] <cntb> I want ubuntu to suggest the user or even auto logon
[02:36] <tpgterror> jrib: and now? but i dont think i got Dapper Drake auctully... i dont know, the last upgrade to 6.06 i got a error about Universe stuff
[02:36] <gatekeeper> threeseas: K -> System -> KSysGuard
[02:36] <Fjodor> stefg: initrd seems fine. Trying acpi=off apm=off
[02:36] <oskude> Dr4g, i allways just drag and drop the downloaded theme packages in theme manager, so why not just test ?
[02:36] <technician> cntb click system -> login setup -> allow automatic login
[02:36] <snoops> where can I remove stuff that I've added via "connect to server" ?
[02:36] <jrib> tpgterror: open up applications > accessories > terminal, what does the command 'lsb_release -c' say?
[02:36] <stefg> Fjodor: apm=power_off iirc
[02:36] <jrib> snoops: places > network servers
[02:37] <pianoboy3333> Is there something special you need to do to get sound juicer to rip an mp3?
[02:37] <tpgterror> jrib: codename : dapper
[02:37] <Fjodor> stefg: Ok, thanks
[02:37] <tom12519> Err, is there any way to allow multiple programs to simultaneously access /dev/dsp?
[02:37] <technician> cntb click system -> login setup -> allow automatic login
[02:37] <technician> hi anyone have done failover router in ubuntu ?
[02:37] <jrib> tpgterror: k you have dapper then.  Now in "Software Preferences" you can just click all of the universe and multiverse stuff
[02:38] <snoops> thanks jrib
[02:38] <cps> pianoboy3333: there is instructions in the Sound Juicer help file I believe
[02:38] <pianoboy3333> ok
[02:38] <oskude> tom12519, JACK is a good solution, if the program supports it
[02:38] <tpgterror> jrib: where can i find Software prefences?
[02:38] <tom12519> Thanks, I'll google
[02:39] <jrib> tpgterror: system > administration > software preferences, there are pictures on the site to help you
[02:39] <Fjodor> stefg: no change
[02:39] <babis85> hello, i removed by accident the toolbar which docks applications such as gaim. you know, this toolbar at the bottom and right, next to the date toolbar. How can i restore it?
[02:39] <cntb> !gdm-conf
[02:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about gdm-conf
[02:39] <jrib> babis85: right click on panel > add to panel > notification panel
[02:39] <oskude> tom12519, but first look if your desired program supports jack, if not. i heard "dmix" does that for alsa programs, or such...
[02:39] <jrib> or maybe notificate area... something like that
[02:39] <cntb> auto login thru gdm.conf ? help !
[02:39] <Dr4g> Does anyone know of any good locations for ubuntu themes.. besides grabbing the first link in google
[02:40] <wrathlo> hi
[02:40] <jrib> Dr4g: gnome-look.org
[02:40] <stefg> Fjodor: Hmm, so you don't see any kernel messages, just grub trying to boot and BANG! ?
[02:40] <tom12519> oskdude, what Ireally want to run is just Skype+VLC
[02:40] <tom12519> *oskude
[02:40] <jrib> Dr4g: or art.gnome.org
[02:40] <wrathlo> guys how do you play mp3 formats using linux?
[02:40] <Fjodor> stefg: exactly. Also tried without quiet and splash
[02:40] <jrib> !mp3 > wrathlo
[02:40] <Dr4g> jrib: yup i seen them
[02:40] <tom12519> oskude, in skype i can choose the inputs/outputs, so i guess it's not a problem there
[02:40] <oskude> tom12519, hmm, dunno if skype uses jack, but vlc should...
[02:41] <Dr4g> jrib: any ones you'd recommend ? :)
[02:41] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: amaroK or other media players plus the correct codecs
[02:41] <wrathlo> where can i find and download the codecs?
[02:41] <jrib> Dr4g: I like simple clearlooks
[02:41] <gatekeeper> !codecs
[02:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:41] <jrib> Dr4g: (which comes with ubuntu)
[02:41] <stefg> Fjodor: what mobo/cpu... is the Ram good positively? Odd Hd-setup?
[02:41] <pianoboy3333> cps: found it, thanks
[02:41] <babis85> is anybody listening?
[02:41] <dr34mc0d3r> a new ubuntu 6.06 shorewall machine - eth0=net eth1=local - all is working fine on all connected machines but the shorewall machine its self. I CAN ping any site by name and IP but as soon as i try to use wget,lynx,apt-get - all i get is "Connection Refused" - got any ideas?
[02:41] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: see ubotu answer
[02:41] <tpgterror> jrib: ok thanks, im download now some updates, but some fallied, of breezy 5.10 or something
[02:41] <Dr4g> jrib: ok ty
[02:42] <oskude> tom12519, om pretty sure skype doesnt use jack...
[02:42] <jrib> babis85: ?  did you see what I said?
[02:42] <Fjodor> stefg: Not entirely sure, but have had it running with debian stable in the past
[02:42] <tpgterror> jrib: and im stuck now :O
[02:42] <Fjodor> Old k6-2
[02:42] <Dr4g> Whats metacity ?
[02:42] <Dr4g> jrib:
[02:42] <reaper> hey, im having a problem wih XGL, when i go to login with XGL nothing happens than after 10 seconds it goes back to the username screen
[02:42] <jrib> tpgterror: erm, ok.  Do this: 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and put it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ .   Then give us a link.  I'm going to eat breakfast now but explain that you need someone to help you with your dapper sources
[02:43] <stefg> Fjodor: Hmm.. seems that 2.6.15 doesn't like your mobo.. you trying to run dapper, aren't you?
[02:43] <tpgterror> jrib: ok Ill search for someone, thanks!
[02:43] <jrib> Dr4g: it controls the windows on your screen.  For themes, it's the border stuff you see
[02:43] <snoops> which guide did ya follow reaper?
[02:43] <Shannon1> oups seems that I lost my helper,, :(
[02:43] <Fjodor> stefg: Yes, dapper
[02:43] <Burne>  Go to www.idpz.net/tomytom/Linux.htm
[02:43] <technician> hi anyone have done failover router in ubuntu ?
[02:44] <wrathlo> the default player i have is toem
[02:44] <wrathlo> totem
[02:44] <oskude> reaper, fyi, the only way i got xgl to work with _any_ tutorial, i had to link xgl to x
[02:44] <tom12519> Hynar, my Ubuntu keeps on dying, too
[02:44] <wrathlo> it doesnt play it says i need some codecs
[02:44] <reaper> snoops: 1 or 3 or something
[02:44] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: this what you are looking for? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[02:44] <stefg> Fjodor: got enough bandwith to try a _Breezy_ Live CD? qithout any logs it's hard to tell what's wrong
[02:44] <reaper> snoops: can't really remember haha
[02:44] <reaper> oskude: link xgl to x?
[02:44] <wrathlo> upon viewing ubotu, it says the files i need to download
[02:44] <mimix> stupid lack of support for flash on my amd64 system :(
[02:44] <wrathlo> but where do i find it?
[02:45] <Fjodor> stefg: I thought the dapper installer used 2.6.15 too, or is that wrong?
[02:45] <oskude> reaper, eh ment, /usr/bin/X as link to /usr/bin/Xgl
[02:45] <tom12519> oskude, what was that other program?
[02:45] <reaper> oskude: elaborate?
[02:45] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: i think yes, i need to know how to run some .exe files.
[02:45] <oskude> tom12519, dmix, seems to be a plugin for alsa http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:45] <Fjodor> I'd rather confirm with a dapper live CD before considering breezy
[02:45] <stefg> Fjodor: that's my point... Breezy uses 2.6.12. and i want to check if the dapper-kernel makes trouble again
[02:45] <Fjodor> stefg: ^
[02:45] <oskude> reaper, ?
[02:46] <sindocc> I wanted to update some packages, including the Xorg on my Ubuntu Breezy. When I "did so" and rebooted my machine, the X didn't run at all (as if it wasn't installed at all). I tried to apt-get xserver-xorg, the apt-get warned that it will remove some 200 packages prior to installing the X server. I said no problem, then I tried to install GDM, here is the error message: The following packages have unmet dependencies: gdm: Depends: libbo
[02:46] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: apt-get install w32codecs and if you are using xine libxine-extracodecs
[02:46] <reaper> oskude: what about bin/x and bin/xgl?
[02:46] <tom12519> Also, what does linkign actually do? Is it basically a shortcut?
[02:46] <oskude> tom12519, ah and "NOTE: For ALSA 1.0.9rc2 and higher you don't need to setup dmix. Dmix is enabled as default for soundcards which don't support hw mixing." :)
[02:46] <babis85> jrib: just i saw what u said. I have only notfication area and not notification panel
[02:46] <xtacocorex> any way to change the acpi call in gnome-power-manager?
[02:46] <Fjodor> stefg: My point was, that I installed from the dapper install CD. It's not a dist-upgrade job
[02:46] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: .exe is windows are you trying to use wine?
[02:46] <oskude> reaper, which bin ?
[02:46] <Fjodor> stefg: And I assumed that installer CD used the dapper kernel
[02:46] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: yes
[02:47] <reaper> what does "<oskude> reaper, eh ment, /usr/bin/X as link to /usr/bin/Xgl" mean?
[02:47] <oskude> reaper, "ln" is the command to make links in linux...
[02:47] <stefg> Fjodor: I'm suspicious zhat the problem is the 2.6.15 kernel in Dapper... So it would be good to check if an older version (2.6.12) is working
[02:47] <oskude> reaper, but dont forget to backup :)
[02:48] <morrolan> In Dapper, where has the "save the current setup" button gone?  I used to have my desktops set up in a particular way, and in Dapper i can't
[02:48] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: if you do what it says on that URL you will get all the repos you need plus any you need to install wine
[02:48] <Fjodor> stefg: Very well. Getting a breezy live cd now then.
[02:48] <reaper> ok
[02:48] <Shannon1> stupid question of the day,, I didnt see any config for root at install on 6.06 it just ask for user,, and when I try to log root I get refused loggin,, isnt there a root loggin on 6.06
[02:48] <oskude> reaper, "ln -s /usr/bin/X /usr/bin/Xgl" or was it other way round...
[02:48] <reaper> oskude: wanna walk me through it? im complete fool when it comes to linux?
[02:48] <wrathlo> where can i find the libxine-extracodecs?
[02:48] <damo22> is the set of kernel patches for ubuntu available as a vanilla patch?
[02:48] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: i think i just found it!! i used the sytnapic program or something and i searched to it, do i need to get wine or wine-dev?
[02:48] <oskude> reaper, ok, open terminal
[02:48] <morrolan> Shannon1: Ubuntu uses "sudo" instead of root, but you can activate the root account
[02:48] <sindocc> I really need help folks. Can't install gdm because apt-get says: The following packages have unmet dependencies:   gdm: Depends: libbonoboui2-0 (>= 2.5.4) but it is not going to be installed ...
[02:48] <reaper> done
[02:49] <oskude> reaper, sudo cp /usr/bin/X /usr/bin/X-orig
[02:49] <jin6093> I don't know root's password.
[02:49] <dr34mc0d3r> a new ubuntu 6.06 shorewall machine - eth0=net eth1=local - all is working fine on all connected machines but the shorewall machine its self. I CAN ping any site by name and IP but as soon as i try to use wget,lynx,apt-get - all i get is "Connection Refused" - got any ideas?
[02:49] <Shannon1> morrolan: but when I try to use SU I get authentication faillure,, wrong password,,
[02:49] <reaper> oskude: done
[02:49] <oskude> reaper, or could have been "mv", now we have to remove "sudo rm /usr/bin/X"
[02:49] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: just wine I think the other I suspect is source code have a look at what synaptic says it is
[02:49] <gnomefreak> jin6093: use sudo -i and password is your user password
[02:49] <cps> morrolan: go to System > Prefrences > Sessions there is a check box there you can tick
[02:49] <morrolan> don't use SU, use "SUDO" and use your own password
[02:50] <oskude> reaper, then a soft link "ln -s /usr/bin/X /usr/bin/Xgl" (hope its that way round :)
[02:50] <reaper> lol ok
[02:50] <babis85> jrib: hey you, i am really stupid, the notification area is the one panel you mean, it's ok now, thanks
[02:50] <Shannon1> morrolan: haaaa! difference between SU and SUDO?
[02:50] <oskude> reaper, eeh, to be correct "sudo ln -s /usr/bin/X /usr/bin/Xgl"
[02:50] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: apt-get install libxine-extracodecs (assuming you have all the repos enabled)
[02:50] <damo22> where can i get ubuntu kernel patches available as a patch for vanilla kernel??
[02:50] <reaper> so type this at all? "sudo rm /usr/bin/X"
[02:50] <sindocc> Could anyone help?
[02:50] <gnomefreak> !sudo
[02:50] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:50] <gnomefreak> Shannon1: read ^^^
[02:50] <morrolan> cps: So if I set it up once to save the session, how can I make it load that as the default session?
[02:50] <reaper> oskude: so type this at all? "sudo rm /usr/bin/X"
[02:51] <oskude> reaper, if it says /usr/bin/Xgl allready exists, its the other way rounf
[02:51] <reaper> ok
[02:51] <pschulz01> Greetings.. has anyone seen a case where 'key' input is lost in gnome? Mouse still works and keys work OK with gdm.. only once logged in do symtoms occur.
[02:51] <jin6093> gnomefreak : thank you.
[02:51] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:51] <gnomefreak> brb
[02:51] <oskude> reaper, you need to remove X before making the link
[02:51] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: this might be helpfull if you haven't: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[02:51] <reaper> ok
[02:51] <Fjodor> stefg: I still don't get why the installer CD is booting fine, if it is indeed a kernel prob, but you are the boss. ETA 50min
[02:51] <reaper> thanks
[02:51] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: ok... it didnt help much..... eh... when i restartert gdm didnt exist
[02:51] <wrathlo> sir gatekeeper where can i find this apt-get install libxine-extracodecs?
[02:51] <Fjodor> stefg: Just a thought. I used the server install CD. Is there anything special in those kernels?
[02:51] <reaper> done
[02:52] <Shannon1> gnomefreak: on my second week on linux,, ive done just that read, read, read,, some explainatoin is needed some times by knoledgeable people like you to clarify,,
[02:52] <cps> morrolan: I think it will just automatically do it
[02:52] <oskude> reaper, start xdm new (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart)
[02:52] <reaper> oskude: i got the error that it already exists so i just swapped X with Xgl
[02:52] <zenwhen> is it possible to have nvidia-glx & nvidia-settings installed at the same time in dapper?
[02:52] <oskude> reaper, ment gdm
[02:52] <Fjodor> stefg: In that case, I could just throw an Xubuntu install at it
[02:52] <morrolan> ubotu
[02:52] <morrolan> hmmm
[02:52] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: where can i find the file when i installed something in synaptic package manager?
[02:52] <reaper> k
[02:52] <oskude> reaper, if it says /usr/bin/Xgl allready exists, its the other way round
[02:52] <SonicChao> !ubotu
[02:52] <morrolan> How do I interact with the Ubotu bot?
[02:52] <grogoreo> hi
[02:52] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: use K -> system -> Konsol (the command line interpreter) and tyoe that command in
[02:53] <pschulz01> I attempted to ssh into an Xubuntu box and start a gmome app.. may have messed something. (First time I tried it.)
[02:53] <SonicChao> morrolan: I'll tell you
[02:53] <SonicChao> morrolan: type !<factoid>
[02:53] <Shannon1> and this irc windows runs so fast, ,dont have the time to read everything people say  so forgive me if im a little slow to understand
[02:53] <SonicChao> Like this:
[02:53] <SonicChao> !restrictedformats
[02:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:53] <wrathlo> where do i type that sir?
[02:53] <ubuntunoob> fyrestrtr: but do u know if ther is an reconfig command, to just completely install the gdm over again?
[02:53] <morrolan> !<factoid>
[02:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about <factoid>
[02:53] <SonicChao> morrolan: Please don't abuse it
[02:53] <wrathlo> in the terminal right?
[02:53] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: or better, i dont know how to use it
[02:53] <SonicChao> morrolan: NO. Type what you want....not <factoid>
[02:53] <SonicChao> morrolan: Also don't include < and >
[02:53] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: it should place a entry in your menu system, occasionally you get something where you have to do it manually
[02:54] <grogoreo> when partitioning for ubuntu or just linux I normally have a root partition of 20GB and then the rest, which in this case is 60GB, for /home. Is it worthwhile have partitions for /var, /etc and so on?
[02:54] <morrolan> I won't, i'm just curious as I've seen others.   Ahhh, so I would type say:  !<sudo> ?
[02:54] <cmug> The following packages have unmet dependencies. mgapdesk: Depends: xserver-xfree86 but it is not installable
[02:54] <cmug> ideas?
[02:54] <SonicChao> morrolan: You would say !sudo
[02:54] <morrolan> ok
[02:54] <oskude> grogoreo, i allways (for desktops) just have / and swap partition...
[02:54] <morrolan> !pppoe
[02:54] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[02:54] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: you don't know how to use wine?
[02:55] <morrolan> SonicChao: thanks a lot for that
[02:55] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: well i never used it, and i dont know where to start it, i dont think there is anything in my menu
[02:55] <Solarion> grogoreo: /etc less so, but possibly yes (insurance against filesystem failure of /, so you don't lose your settings) and also for / (logs won't fill / nor will /var/tmp), but it comes at increased annoyance and complexity.
[02:55] <kbrooks> cmug: link to package?
[02:55] <Solarion> Some people also have a separate /usr
[02:55] <SonicChao> morrolan: you're welcome
[02:55] <grogoreo> oskude: but I've hard you don't even need swap anymore. I've not actually seen my swap partiton used. Should I have one anyway
[02:55] <frogzoo> grogoreo: very worthwhile - especially for /home / & /var, /usr
[02:55] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: yes in the terminal
[02:55] <cmug> kbrooks, http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/x11/mgapdesk
[02:55] <Solarion> grogoreo: for regular users, the annoyance and complexity is generally not worth it.
[02:55] <oskude> grogoreo, dunno about that (my machines have low ram, so i really need swap)
[02:55] <Solarion> [imho] 
[02:56] <frogzoo> Solarion: /home should always be separate
[02:56] <cntb> !greeter
[02:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about greeter
[02:56] <grogoreo> ok, I stick to /, /home and some swap. thanks guys
[02:56] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: never used it myself you probable need to do some googling to understand how it all works
[02:56] <grogoreo> is there any reason shy I should have my swap in an extended partition?
[02:56] <frogzoo> grogoreo: /var if you run any services - apache, mysql etc.
[02:56] <Solarion> frogzoo: arguably
[02:56] <kbrooks> grogoreo: for laarge amounts of RAM (> 1GB), it isn't really necessary, but you do need it for virtual machines that take a lot of RAM
[02:56] <Solarion> OTOH, it's easier if it's not.  :)
[02:57] <tpgterror> Somebody know how WINE works?
[02:57] <grogoreo> kbrooks: well I do have 1GB RAM
[02:57] <Solarion> well, easier to maintain.  Not easier if something goes wrong.  :)
[02:57] <frogzoo> Solarion: until you want to reinstall - then /home on the same fs as / is a super pain
[02:57] <kbrooks> grogoreo: I said >
[02:57] <Solarion> frogzoo: like I said.
[02:57] <wrathlo> sir it says  bash:k:command nor found
[02:57] <Nameeater> I am getting "CUPS-Get-Printers client-error-not-found: No destinations added." every 5 seconds in my cups config, how can I stop it before my hdd space all disappears? :/
[02:58] <damo22> yeah it sucked when my xfs fs got corrupted, i lost 15gb
[02:58] <Solarion> OTOH, if you allocate / and /home wrongly, it can be annoying to fix the problem, although that is much less so than it used to be (yay for partition resizing)
[02:58] <damo22> i reckon just use ext3
[02:58] <cmug> Does anyone run matrox g450 with tv-out properly?
[02:58] <Solarion> damo22: yeah.  I love XFS.
[02:58] <zenwhen> I use reiser
[02:58] <Solarion> damo22: Just don't make it angry.  You won't like it when it's angry.
[02:58] <Dr4g> i use sexfs
[02:58] <kbrooks> Dr4g: very funy
[02:58] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: you can't expect people to lead you by the nose, here is good for a specific problem not how do I learn wine
[02:58] <damo22> solarion, NEVER power off the laptop before unmounting xfs.... or else
[02:58] <frogzoo> Dr4g: for you / fs ?
[02:59] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: ok sorry
[02:59] <jin6093> Can I install ubuntu-server using 6.06 LTS CD?
[02:59] <Solarion> xfs is not the fs for laptops.  :)
[02:59] <Dr4g> frogzoo: it was a joke, there is no sex file system
[02:59] <Solarion> nor is jfs, incidentally.
[02:59] <qualus> heya
[02:59] <gnomefreak> wrathlo: the K = the kde menu button to get you into konsole
[02:59] <Solarion> xfs is great for performance desktops, tho.
[02:59] <zenwhen> Reiser has been pretty good to me. I do hard resets like its going out of style. No issues yet.
[02:59] <frogzoo> Dr4g: reread ^^^
[02:59] <stefg> Fjodor: Other things comming to my mind : BIOS too old, Grub and kernel can't agree on HD geometry... specify ramsize explicitly in kernelparameters... acpi=off noapic nolapic
[02:59] <crova`of`thx> i installed ubuntu with no problems, when i turn on the pc and wanna boot on ubuntu, it loads some stuffs but when it goes to open gnome, it just stucks on a black screen, n1 know what can be?
[02:59] <Solarion> make sure you have a UPS...  ;)
[02:59] <qualus> you lot remember where Wine's official channel was ?
[02:59] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: best thing to read up on it, come back with specific questions you don't understand :-)
[02:59] <frogzoo> qualus: #winehq
[02:59] <gnomefreak> qualus: #winehq
[02:59] <`blink> ok - so meybe someone can tell how can i change locales
[02:59] <crova`of`thx> i can log in safe mode, and also connect on the internet, but i dont know what to do
[03:00] <qualus> ah, cheers
[03:00] <Stone-Cold> one ask ubuntu autodetect new pci ethernet cardS?
[03:00] <damo22> Solarion... which fs for a laptop?
[03:00] <damo22> ext3?
[03:00] <frogzoo> damo22: ext3 is fine
[03:00] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: ok, got a little question, the letter like in .exe in windows... whats the one in linux? like to start programs
[03:00] <gnomefreak> Stone-Cold: depends ont he card
[03:00] <`blink> because dpgg-reconfigure locales doesn't works
[03:00] <`blink> dpkg
[03:00] <gnomefreak> !hardware > Stone-Cold
[03:00] <Fjodor> stefg: Will try. But as stated, I have had debian stable on it. Can't remember, if it was grub or lilo, though. Neither if there were any special flags
[03:00] <ubuntunoob> help... gdm is fubar.... how to fix it ?
[03:00] <frogzoo> damo22: also, /tmp likes to live on tmpfs...
[03:00] <gnomefreak> Stone-Cold: read your pm from ubotu
[03:00] <Stone-Cold> tnx
[03:01] <wrathlo> sir what is the password?
[03:01] <kbrooks> tpgterror: there is none
[03:01] <`blink> wrathlo. probably oem
[03:01] <gnomefreak> ubuntunoob: could you give us a little more than its fubared
[03:01] <`blink> try this one
[03:01] <crova`of`thx> i installed ubuntu with no problems, when i turn on the pc and wanna boot on ubuntu, it loads some stuffs but when it goes to open gnome, it just stucks on a black screen, n1 know what can be?
[03:01] <kbrooks> tpgterror: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement
[03:01] <thotz> Has anybody got a HP DeskJet 6840?
[03:02] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: linux doesn't have one, the OS understands something is an exe by it's internal structure I think, .so seems to be like dll's
[03:02] <`blink> crova`of`thx: try to change resolution in xorg.conf
[03:02] <frogzoo> crova`of`thx: you need to reconfigure xorg.conf -> 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[03:02] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: I need to get into linux programming :-)
[03:02] <damo22> frogzoo how do i put /tmp on tmpfs
[03:02] <`blink> or install graphic driver
[03:02] <wrathlo> i am currently reading the How to install Multimedia Codecs and i have typed the first line
[03:02] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: hmm k, bye
[03:03] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: I think there is a #winehq channel
[03:03] <frogzoo> damo22: tmpfs           /tmp            tmpfs   size=250M,mode=1777,noatime     0      0
[03:03] <wrathlo> it is asking for a password, i tried oem but doesnt work
[03:03] <Dr4g> (13:59:37) frogzoo: Dr4g: reread ^^^   <--- i didnt get the joke :P
[03:03] <Fjodor> stefg: noapic nolapic  added. No change
[03:03] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: see ya :-)
[03:03] <ubuntunoob> gnomefreak: ehm... XDCMP was due to my fuault set up to choose. changed the gdm.config file to a new one i think... now it doesnt wor at all.
[03:03] <crova`of`thx> `blink frogzoo ill try that, thx
[03:03] <frogzoo> damo22: just be aware you need extra space in swap if you're using hibernate
[03:03] <damo22> frogzoo:  havent used hibernate
[03:03] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: there is, thanks, bye
[03:03] <frogzoo> damo22: when it works, it rox
[03:03] <Fjodor> stefg: ramsize is ramsize=196mb, or?
[03:03] <`blink> wrathlo: did you install from alternate cd?
[03:04] <stefg> Fjodor: yes
[03:04] <turtlewind> hi
[03:04] <wonea> anyone know how to get fglrxinfo working giving API Error?
[03:04] <damo22> wonea... yes
[03:04] <turtlewind> could someone point me to a good tutorial for installing Wine on Ubuntu 5.10?
[03:04] <ubuntunoob> gnomefreak: i have kubuntu desktop, s i can log in on that... but my networkconnections doesnt work...
[03:04] <gnomefreak> ubuntunoob: delete the gdm config file and reboot it should generate a new default config file
[03:04] <frogzoo> damo22: also, tmpfs takes up ram, so if you've less than a gig, you should reduce that 250^^
[03:04] <stefg> Gotta reboot, new kernel is ready
[03:04] <ubuntunoob> gnomefreak: kk
[03:04] <`blink> turtlewind: sudo apt-get install wine
[03:04] <RiotingP> does ubuntu work with 5 mouse keys
[03:04] <damo22> wonea download the older version of libGL.so.1.2
[03:04] <stefg> brb
[03:04] <wrathlo> this is a one copy cd.is there another one?
[03:05] <gnomefreak> ubuntunoob: gdm/kdm has nothing to do with networking
[03:05] <wrathlo> it tried the user login password
[03:05] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: enter the password then press enter if you are in the CLI you don't get any feedback while you are entering a password, all part of the security
[03:05] <wrathlo> it worjed
[03:05] <`blink> this is a one of proposition ubuntu company
[03:05] <wonea> damo22: tried that, still not working
[03:05] <`blink> alternate cd is for older computers
[03:05] <damo22> frogzoo:  does tmpfs hog ram... ie keeps it allocated?
[03:05] <wrathlo> but it said it couldnt find the package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[03:06] <turtlewind> 'blink - after I've done that, what should I do? Is it just a matter of double-clicking Windows executables, or is there more configuration and stuff to do?
[03:06] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: now you are getting the hang of it :-)
[03:06] <wrathlo> where do i get the gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[03:06] <wrathlo> ?
[03:06] <wrathlo> thanks
[03:06] <gnomefreak> wrathlo: multiverse repo
[03:06] <`blink> no - thats all
[03:06] <turtlewind> and do I need to copy any files over from a Windows install?
[03:06] <wrathlo> im sorry i seem stupid i am trying to adjust
[03:06] <turtlewind> that's good to hear :)
[03:06] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: alter your repos http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[03:06] <`blink> wine configuration is quite easy
[03:07] <spaceboyy> hi, I am looking for someone(that is trustworthy) that would consider doing a VPN with me. We could share each others resources etc. Anyone want to ??
[03:07] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: follow those instructions ^ ^
[03:07] <`blink> after all you must call wine in console
[03:07] <gnomefreak> spaceboyy: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:07] <gnomefreak> spaceboyy: and more than likely it wont happen
[03:08] <damo22> frogzoo:  i have 512mb ram how much should i use for tmpfs
[03:08] <ROBOd> hello
[03:08] <ROBOd> is there a player which supports iTunes?
[03:08] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: talk to blink
[03:08] <frogzoo> damo22: in my experience, /tmp is hardly used - 50meg would probly do at a pinch
[03:08] <wrathlo> i will i am doing it right now thanks for the help!
[03:08] <ROBOd> i'd like some player with support for itms protocol
[03:09] <Bdubya> !itunes
[03:09] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[03:09] <spaceboyy> gnomefreak, as I have gathered
[03:09] <jin6093> how can I change root password when I logged in user account? I used 'sudo -i' and 'passwd'. So I can find out root password...
[03:09] <wrathlo> i'll ask for assistance again later
[03:09] <ROBOd> !players
[03:09] <wrathlo> thanks
[03:09] <`blink> turtlewind: you must know, that not all programs windows run good in wine
[03:09] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:09] <ROBOd> !codecs
[03:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:09] <spaceboyy> anyone.. ??
[03:09] <gnomefreak> spaceboyy: i said not in here try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:09] <turtlewind> 'blink - I know, but I thought I'd give it a try anyway
[03:10] <Bdubya> ROBOd
[03:10] <Dr4g> erm.. how do i start up synaptic ?
[03:10] <`blink> turtlewind: should it works fine
[03:10] <Bdubya> are you thinking about itunes for the ipod sync?
[03:10] <`blink> Dr4g sudo synaptic
[03:10] <gnomefreak> Dr4g: system>admin>synaptic package manager
[03:10] <`blink> and root password
[03:10] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: still having problems?
[03:10] <gnomefreak> `blink: no
[03:10] <spaceboyy> hate channels like that
[03:10] <spaceboyy> cya
[03:10] <Dr4g> thanks gnomefreak
[03:10] <frogzoo> spaceboyy: you mean like share my bank account details?
[03:10] <gnomefreak> never use sudo with gtk apps
[03:10] <Bdubya> because amarok is much better if you "DONT" have a ipod video
[03:11] <spaceboyy> frogzoo, no
[03:11] <`blink> gnomefreak really?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> `blink: yes
[03:11] <spaceboyy> frogzoo, "system resources"
[03:11] <gnomefreak> !gksudo
[03:11] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[03:11] <`blink> i don't know that
[03:11] <ROBOd> Bdubya: no, i want just to listen to itms
[03:11] <`blink> oh.. thx
[03:11] <ROBOd> songs from the iTunes Music Store
[03:11] <gnomefreak> `blink: ^^^ now you do ;)
[03:11] <`blink> :)
[03:11] <BlackHand> uhm
[03:12] <`blink> gksudo - i will be remember
[03:12] <spaceboyy> so no one?
[03:12] <BlackHand> no #ubuntu-ppc channel ?
[03:12] <Bdubya> than i'd say amarok is fine
[03:12] <`blink> spaceboyy: what is the q
[03:12] <Bdubya> best one ive used so far, and its quite close to itunes
[03:12] <euclid_888> Hi everyone!
[03:12] <wrathlo> none at this time sir
[03:12] <gatekeeper> Hello there
[03:12] <rixxon> xclip is unable to put text in the clipboard. ideas?
[03:12] <killaz> where can I report a bug?
[03:12] <ph_softnet> hello all.
[03:12] <euclid_888> Grad students at my university are using Ubuntu. I'd like to try it. I just need to download 1 CD?
[03:12] <gnomefreak> !bug
[03:12] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[03:12] <oskude> rixxon, maybe the clipboards are different ?
[03:13] <rixxon> euclid_888: yes
[03:13] <`blink> is maybe now my time for ask q?
[03:13] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: :-)
[03:13] <killaz> I found a bug in the File Roller (Archive manager) of GNOME that comes with Ubuntu
[03:13] <gnomefreak> `blink: just ask
[03:13] <belfo> Personne connait un tuto pour que le son marche chez moi comme je veut >_<. Donc que je puisse utiliser skype/teamspeak et sourtout que si j'ecoute de la musique les autres sont ne soyent pas coupe >_< J'ai tout essaie (alsa etc) mais rien ne change
[03:13] <jrib> euclid_888: yes, ubuntu.com click on download
[03:13] <rixxon> oskude: perhaps :S
[03:13] <frogzoo> !fr
[03:13] <euclid_888> rixxon, Will it come with a browswer so that I can download firefox?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> !bug > killaz
[03:13] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:13] <ubuntunoob> gnomefreak: naaa... it doesnt create a new one.... shal i delete the orig config also?
[03:13] <`blink> i dont know how to change locales
[03:13] <oskude> rixxon, im just quessing, xclip doesnt use the same clipboard gnome is using...
[03:13] <turtlewind> euclid_888: it comes with Firefox
[03:13] <gnomefreak> ubuntunoob: sudo apt-get remove --purge gdm
[03:13] <euclid_888> turtlewind, great!
[03:13] <Fjodor> stefg: Wb. ramsize= didn't do it :-(
[03:13] <euclid_888> ty
[03:13] <killaz> gnomefreak, but before i do that maybe it's something that one of you guys know of...
[03:13] <rixxon> oskude: you can select clipboard though, what should i use?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> ubuntunoob: than sudo apt-get install gdm
[03:13] <`blink> because dpkg-reconfigure locales or localesconf doeast works
[03:14] <ph_softnet> Im making my own ubuntu packages repository.Where do i put architecture-independed packages?dists/<mydist>/<mysection>/binary-all/ ???
[03:14] <killaz> it's like this: I wget a tar.gz...
[03:14] <stefg> ahhh...  uname -r
[03:14] <stefg> 2.6.17-ck1
[03:14] <oskude> rixxon, dunno, try "man xclip"
[03:14] <ubuntunoob> do i have to be connectet on net to do that?
[03:14] <gnomefreak> killaz: that just ask your question instead of asking where bugs get filed
[03:14] <ubuntunoob> do i have to be connectet on net to do that? gnomefreak
[03:14] <wonea> oh my, my graphics works!
[03:14] <Fjodor> stefg: Congrats :-)
[03:14] <`blink> noone?
[03:14] <damo22> how can i extract the patches from the ubuntu kernel source -> vanilla patches
[03:14] <gnomefreak> ubuntunoob: yes
[03:14] <ubuntunoob> kk
[03:14] <rixxon> oskude: yea. -selection clipboard fixes it, thanks!
[03:14] <oskude> rixxon, cool
[03:15] <killaz> I saw that with FileRoller I didnt see some folder.... in the Foldr View..
[03:15] <stefg> 2.6.15 was a troublemaker for me as well.. i strongly suggest you try a breezy kernel , Fjodor
[03:15] <gnomefreak> 2.6.15-25.43 fixed most if not all issues 2.6.15-23 had
[03:15] <killaz> also extracting the tar.gz the folder aint anywhere....
[03:16] <`blink> any polish here?
[03:16] <killaz> so I tried the CL which never fails and there they are...
[03:16] <eamo> tvtime problem. tvtime-scaner OK.  tvtime error: no XVIDEO port found that supports YUY2 images?
[03:16] <Fjodor> stefg, gnomefreak: So dl'ing that deb, go rescue and dpkg -i could do it?
[03:16] <euclid_888> I'm downloading ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso for a home PC that uses a router to connect to a cable modem. Is this all I need to run Ubuntu?
[03:16] <damo22> anyone know how to patch dapper kernel to realtime preempt?
[03:16] <killaz> the folders are there, but one way or the other FileRoller doesnt see them.....
[03:16] <gnomefreak> Fjodor: what are you woeking on?
[03:16] <`blink> euclid_888 yes
[03:16] <killaz> and also doesnt extract them
[03:16] <eamo> tvtime worked in breezy - pinnalce card
[03:16] <euclid_888> 'blink thanks
[03:16] <`blink> for older computers try alternate cd
[03:16] <BlackHand> dam22: real time preempt ? kolivas patches ?
[03:16] <gnomefreak> killaz: where did it save the tar?
[03:17] <damo22> ingos patch
[03:17] <Fjodor> gnomefreak: Getting dapper server on an old k6-2 for a wifi-router
[03:17] <frogzoo> euclid_888: you'll need to burn the image, & you'll need preferably 20-30gig of free disk
[03:17] <stefg> Fjodor: not sure... i'd rather go trying a breezy live CD. if it works it can be a valuable source of information
[03:17] <Dr4g> I just installed gnome-art from synaptic... where does it install to ?
[03:17] <Dr4g> *
[03:17] <killaz> gnomefreak, what do you mean where did it save the tar?
[03:17] <gnomefreak> killaz: yes
[03:17] <Fjodor> stefg: Am dl'ing that as we speak :-)
[03:17] <euclid_888> frogzoo, the free space is for apps I may download?
[03:17] <killaz> I dont understand the Q
[03:17] <stefg> Fjodor: you did make a media check on your install CD, didn't you?
[03:17] <gnomefreak> wget has to save tar somewhere normally in ~/ or /temp
[03:18] <Fjodor> stefg: Yes, came up fine
[03:18] <`blink> euclid_888: for system u need maybe 2gb max
[03:18] <Dr4g> gnomefreak: I just installed gnome-art from synaptic... where does it install to ?
[03:18] <frogzoo> euclid_888: yup, &  as much as you can spare for /home - for your personal files
[03:18] <euclid_888> Okay.. I have 250 GB on the PC.
[03:18] <oskude> Dr4g, i think in breezy it was in system - preferences, havent had it since then
[03:18] <gnomefreak> Dr4g: killall gnome-panel and than you will see it in system>prefferences
[03:18] <euclid_888> FC5 is 5 CD's and it didn't let me connect to the internet.. :)
[03:19] <gatekeeper> euclid_888: I have given / 30Gb and /home the rest
[03:19] <`blink> fc is shitty
[03:19] <Bdubya> is fedora core 5 any good?
[03:19] <Bdubya> i liked 4
[03:19] <gnomefreak> euclid_888: we cant help you with fedora
[03:19] <euclid_888> i know :)
[03:19] <`blink> better try red hat
[03:19] <frogzoo> Dr4g: dpkg -L gnome-art
[03:19] <killaz> uhmm well I wget the file in /var/www
[03:19] <Bdubya> im still very noob to linuc
[03:19] <Dr4g> frogzoo: gnomefreak its already there
[03:19] <bertu> Hey, when you use the apt-get install function...is there someway to see all the programs available in the database?
[03:19] <Bdubya> linux
[03:20] <Dr4g> i didnt see "art manager" befre lol
[03:20] <gnomefreak> killaz: than that is where you need to look for it
[03:20] <euclid_888> gnomefreak, I started seeing Ubuntu a lot at my university so I looked it up a few minutes ago. It seems nice.
[03:20] <killaz> taht same file I untarred using the CL.... and the folder were extracted
[03:20] <Fjodor> bertu apt-cache search
[03:20] <frogzoo> Dr4g: yes, the menu entry is confusing
[03:20] <`blink> ubuntu 6.06 is worse than 5.10 - any?
[03:20] <bertu> in terminal?
[03:20] <killaz> but looking at that file with File Roller .. I dont see the folders..
[03:20] <Fjodor> bertu: Yes
[03:20] <bertu> ok
[03:20] <Amaranth> `blink: other than the ati drivers dapper is much better for me
[03:20] <gnomefreak> `blink: please ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:20] <Fjodor> bertu: Or you could run synaptic
[03:21] <byen> Hey Guys, I have a small question. How to i remove the background color of the icon text on xubuntu
[03:21] <bertu> it gave me an error
[03:21] <`blink> my ati is 7500 and fglrx doenst support it
[03:21] <`blink> :/
[03:21] <killaz> gnomefreak, the problem is this: FileRoller doesnt show me the folders in the tar, that suppose to be there..
[03:21] <bertu> ok
[03:21] <frogzoo> `blink: something's in dapper are broken - but others are much improved, but if you're happy with breezy, go for it
[03:21] <Fjodor> bertu: synaptic is graphical
[03:21] <bertu> i ll see synaptic
[03:21] <bertu> 10x
[03:21] <Fjodor> bertu: System/Administration/Synaptic
[03:21] <bertu> ok np i know
[03:21] <gnomefreak> killaz: i dont use fileroller its easier for me to run the command ;)
[03:22] <killaz> gnomefreak, it's not that I can not find the tar. I know where the tar is... but looking at the tar with FileRoller is the problem...
[03:22] <gnomefreak> killaz: than use the tar command with xvzf and it will show you while unpacking it what is in there
[03:23] <`blink> tar -xvzf and wil be @ home
[03:23] <Dromen> SonicChao: fixed it :)
[03:23] <gnomefreak> `blink: he would have to cd /var/www
[03:23] <dr34mc0d3r> a new ubuntu 6.06 shorewall machine - eth0=net eth1=local - all is working fine on all connected machines but the shorewall machine its self. I CAN ping any site by name and IP but as soon as i try to use wget,lynx,apt-get - all i get is "Connection Refused" - got any ideas?
[03:23] <`blink> o gnomefreak is outstrip me
[03:23] <SonicChao> Dromen: ^_^
[03:23] <stefg> Does anyone have a link at hand on the howto install the Nvidia-Drivers with module-assistant? the binary-drive- howto presumes there's a restricted-modules package, which obviously isn't with a selfmade kernel
[03:23] <killaz> gnomefreak, like I said earlier after using tar zxvf the folders are extracted correctly... so I know the folders is in there...
[03:23] <killaz> are*
[03:24] <Dromen> SonicChao:  had a problem ran out of space on "/" so it couldnt re-write xauthority etc.. and usr permissions on dmrc were incorrect :)
[03:24] <byen> I tried looking at the options in xfce but I cant seem to change the bg for the icons from blue to no bg
[03:24] <gnomefreak> killaz: it could be a setting in fileroller could be a bug could be anything file it as a bug but first make sure you are up2date
[03:24] <killaz> gnomefreak, but still there are some ppl that use FileRoller all the time and some sometimes (like me) that want to bo sure tha ALL files in the tar is being extracedt
[03:24] <`blink> dr34mc0d3r: /etc/resolv.conf
[03:24] <frogzoo> byen: methinks that will buried away as part of the gnome theme
[03:25] <crova`of`thx> `blink i changed the resolution 2 times (1024 and later 800), nothing changes
[03:25] <`blink> and configure you dnss
[03:25] <byen> frogzoo, my issue pertains to XFCE
[03:25] <crova`of`thx> theres something wrong with the pcmcia services, this is the only thing that does not say OK when is loading
[03:25] <`blink> all the time is black?
[03:25] <crova`of`thx> yeah
[03:25] <frogzoo> byen: same deal though - check the theme settings
[03:25] <dr34mc0d3r> blink - my resolv.conf is fine - i can ping any exturnal site by name and ip - just cant wget/apt-get/lynx - its strange
[03:25] <byen> frogzoo, will do
[03:25] <crova`of`thx> it loads a bunch of things, but after loading, it stucks at this black screen
[03:25] <crova`of`thx> seems like the monitor is turning off
[03:26] <frogzoo> !fixres > crova`of`thx
[03:26] <`blink> crova`of`thx
[03:26] <`blink> try to change refresh rate
[03:26] <Dromen> if i remove "Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on 386." via synaptic and the other modules it says have to be removed my system will still boot with the newer kernel right?
[03:26] <`blink> in xorg.conf
[03:26] <damo22> anyone successfully patched 2.6.15-rt ?
[03:26] <killaz> gnomefreak, File Roller 2.12.1 is the latest stable version.... and Ubuntu ships with 2.14.3-0ubuntu
[03:26] <`blink> do you have old monitor?
[03:27] <frogzoo> Dromen: just so long as you have another kernel to boot...   o.O
[03:27] <crova`of`thx> yeah
[03:27] <crova`of`thx> like 7-8 years old
[03:27] <Dromen> i do frogzoo
[03:27] <`blink> maybe refresh rate is too high
[03:27] <crova`of`thx> lg studioworks 77i
[03:27] <Dromen> i have
[03:27] <`blink> try change to 60 go upper (75, 85)
[03:27] <Dromen> Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15-25 on 386. and i wish to remove Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15-23 on 386.
[03:28] <crova`of`thx> vim xorg.conf blink?
[03:28] <`blink> yeah
[03:28] <crova`of`thx> sorry, but yeah, im completelly new to this
[03:28] <crova`of`thx> ok
[03:28] <crova`of`thx> ill try again
[03:28] <crova`of`thx> brb :)
[03:28] <`blink> in console xrandr -s for screen
[03:28] <damo22> Dromen: good habit.... reboot into new kernel first, then delete old kernel
[03:28] <`blink> and xrandr -r for refresh rate
[03:29] <Dromen> damo22: im on newer kernel :)
[03:29] <Dromen> removed old one from grub menu
[03:29] <tpgterror> I got a problem with WINE, it gives me a sort of error when i install it in terminal with code : apt-get --build source wine, at last it gives a message : child process falied
[03:29] <damo22> Dromen: apt-get remove linux-image..... handles grub menu
[03:29] <Dromen> ah ok
[03:29] <Dromen> well ive just commented it out
[03:29] <andyjeffries> How do I report a bug in a package?  I'm a registered member at launchpad, but can't see how to register a new bug - only search for them.
[03:29] <Dr4g> Can someone gimme a link for "adding plugins for firefox"
[03:29] <Dr4g> eg :java, adobe
[03:30] <Dromen> also what program can convert a TS file into mpeg ?
[03:30] <crova`of`thx> `blink just to make sure, after i edit the xorg.conf, how do i leave and save settings with vim?
[03:30] <damo22> dvr-ms
[03:30] <stefg> Dr4g:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[03:31] <Hobbsee> andyjeffries: which package?
[03:31] <Hobbsee> andyjeffries: launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/sourcepackagehere
[03:31] <`blink> TS2MPEG
[03:31] <elkbuntu> i need to enable vsync on an ati radeon xpress 200m. how can i do this?
[03:31] <gatekeeper> Dr4g: which ones do you want?
[03:31] <Hobbsee> andyjeffries: then ther'es a "file a bug" option
[03:31] <`blink> yes
[03:31] <damo22> Dromen: apt-cache search TS mpeg
[03:31] <gnomefreak> Dromen: synaptic
[03:31] <andyjeffries> Hobbsee: libxrender.  It doesn't include libXrender.la which my app requires and so does AmaroK apparently.
[03:31] <Dromen> shall look soon
[03:32] <`blink> crova`of`thx yes
[03:32] <Dr4g> gatekeeper: the usual ones.. aobde flash player... java
[03:32] <Dromen> just movin a 5gb transmission stream off my disk so i dont get locked out again :P
[03:32] <turtlewind> could I have some more help with Wine?
[03:32] <gatekeeper> I would use this guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[03:32] <wrathlo> gatekeeper i have found out that i am using the 5.10 version
[03:32] <turtlewind> I tell it to run things (in the terminal, with 'wine somefile.exe') and it tells me:
[03:32] <Hobbsee> andyjeffries: i've heard talk of them removing .la files from edgy completely.  but file a bug under launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/libxrender
[03:32] <wrathlo> what a development! -)
[03:32] <Dromen> gatekeeper: what was that windows to ubuntu guide for earlier?
[03:33] <turtlewind> Warning: unprotecting memory to allow real-mode calls.
[03:33] <turtlewind>          NULL pointer accesses will no longer be caught.
[03:33] <lispy_> hi guys. I think I just broke my apt. I tried to upgrade to edgy as I had issues getting compiz to work. Now compiz works great but whenever I try to finish the upgrade to edgy it spits this error at me.
[03:33] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: ooops!
[03:33] <lispy_> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xfonts-intl-european_1.2.1-6ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack):
[03:33] <lispy_>  subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[03:33] <lispy_> usage error: unrecognized option
[03:33] <turtlewind> and then back to bash
[03:33] <Hobbsee> lispy_: #ubuntu+1
[03:33] <gnomefreak> help.ubuntu.com ;)
[03:33] <lispy_> thx.
[03:33] <Hobbsee> lispy_: and please dont paste in here.
[03:33] <lispy_> sorry.
[03:33] <bertu> pastebin :)
[03:33] <gnomefreak> lispy_: edgy is nto ready for use
[03:34] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, especially edgy/xgl from what ive heard
[03:34] <tpgterror> Can somebody please help me with a WINE unpack problem?
[03:34] <gatekeeper> Dromen: an attempt at an answerto one of your questions in ubuntu forums
[03:34] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: thats gonne be broken for a while
[03:35] <`blink> tpgterror why i n unpuck?
[03:35] <Dromen> kk
[03:35] <`blink> try apt-get it
[03:35] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: I should have asked, when did you install it?
[03:35] <andyjeffries> Hobbsee: Why would they do that and how should I change my configure script (I'm the application author) so it no longer requires .la files?  I'm not an autoconf user (someone else wrote the autoconf/automake stuff, but he's no longer in contact)
[03:35] <tpgterror> `blink: well i get a error when  installing or something in Terminal for WINE
[03:35] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, of course. we cant go through a development of a version without completely breaking something graphical ;)
[03:35] <Hobbsee> andyjeffries: i've got absolutely no idea.  you *might* get an answer on that in #ubuntu-motu if anyone's around
[03:35] <`blink> tpgterror try install it from synaptic
[03:35] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: next week
[03:36] <`blink> propably u dont have some librarys or something
[03:36] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: things will break back and forth
[03:36] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, hehe. you wouldnt happen to know how to enable vsync with ati cards?
[03:36] <tpgterror> `blink: i did, but i needed to follow the last text of the website of WINE for ubuntu but it gives me a sort of error, E: child process falied
[03:36] <wrathlo> just the other day
[03:36] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: you could probable use the set of repos I gave you but replace dapper with breezy
[03:36] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: nope
[03:36] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: sorry :(
[03:37] <elkbuntu> that's fine ;)
[03:37] <gnomefreak> ok time for me to cut grass bbs ;)
[03:37] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: got broadband conection?
[03:37] <`blink> dunno. i dont use wine - sorry
[03:37] <wrathlo> its ok the link you gave me has a link for the 5.10 version and im currently running the install media codecs instructions
[03:37] <wrathlo> yup i got broadband
[03:37] <HorzA> where do i change keyb layout?
[03:37] <Dromen> damo22: dvr-ms is that for commandline?
[03:38] <wrathlo> how secure is linux?
[03:38] <`blink> very
[03:38] <`blink> :>
[03:38] <Dromen> wrathlo: depends on the user
[03:38] <andyjeffries> Hobbsee: Thanks mat.e
[03:38] <Foobal> wrathlo: depends. against complete amateurs and random haxxors, very. against any professional? complete bs
[03:38] <wrathlo> i mean is it possible for others to hack your system or get your system to get inflicted by viruses?
[03:38] <`blink> u must configure iptables and should be ok
[03:38] <ruben> Hi, I can have two 'networks' int the same switch like 172.16.0.0/24 and 10.0.0.0/24 ?
[03:39] <Dromen> wrathlo: its harde than windows
[03:39] <wrathlo> ic
[03:39] <wrathlo> its a good thing then
[03:39] <farous> why is it that my gnome-terminal is so slow ?
[03:39] <turtlewind> can someone tell me a program that definitely works with Wine? Everything I've tried has failed.
[03:39] <turtlewind> (mostly old games like civ2)
[03:39] <`blink> cedega
[03:39] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: you could upgrade to dapper if you want to. I did it manually and certain pacakages where not installed not sure exactly what I lost, anyway I am trying through the update-manager on my test box, still got 1 hour to run to see what I get. Anyway it's an option
[03:39] <`blink> but its a commercaill software
[03:39] <erUSUL> farous: use another terminal emulator. i use urxvt is fast and light
[03:40] <turtlewind> 'blink - I was meaning a Windows program that definitely runs under Wine
[03:40] <wrathlo> thanks for the input.
[03:40] <`blink> i s better than wine
[03:40] <Fjodor> stefg: Burning the live cd now. In the meantime, I'll just try getting the new kernel and installing it, so I'm offline for a bit
[03:40] <turtlewind> so that I could see if there was a problem with my setup or if it's just the programs I've been trying to run
[03:40] <tpgterror> `blink: i dont know how to fix this...
[03:40] <stefg> Fjodor: have fun :-)
[03:40] <Dromen> turtlewind: look on wine site?
[03:40] <Dromen> theres a long list
[03:41] <tpgterror> `blink: this was the error, sh: dpkg-source: command not found
[03:41] <tpgterror> Unpack command 'dpkg-source -x wine_0.9.16~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1.dsc' failed.
[03:41] <tpgterror> Check if the 'dpkg-dev' package is installed.
[03:41] <tpgterror> E: Child process failed
[03:41] <wrathlo> im stil trying to familiarize myself with this OS.it is a lot different than windows
[03:41] <Dromen> wrathlo: indeed
[03:41] <technician> anyone used iproute in ubuntu ?
[03:41] <Dromen> gatekeeper: give wrathlo that link you gave me earlier
[03:41] <Noelio> no
[03:41] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: dapper is just the latest version of everything same OS :-)
[03:41] <wrathlo> which one?
[03:41] <wrathlo> yup that is true
[03:42] <Dromen> wrathlo: http://pcmech.com/show/os/917/
[03:42] <farous> erUSUL: thanx but i just wana know why all of a sudden it is that slow
[03:42] <icmp> oh man this all nighter has me drained
[03:42] <Dromen> IRCMonkeyx:
[03:42] <wrathlo> thanks for the link!
[03:42] <wrathlo> seems to be a great help.
[03:42] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: Dromen: my home home page with a few usefull links: za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[03:42] <IRCMonkeyx> dromen: ?
[03:43] <tpgterror> can anybody help me with this WINE problem?
[03:43] <Dromen> IRCMonkeyx: ever played Ectroverse?
[03:43] <IRCMonkeyx> Dromen: nope, i have no idea for it
[03:43] <Dromen> kk
[03:43] <Dromen> sorry ;P
[03:44] <IRCMonkeyx> Dromen: no problem
[03:44] <IRCMonkeyx> hi people i have windows in my drive C, it is ntfs, drive d is fat 32, i have ubuntu 6.06 as ext2, if my drive c or d got virus, does it infect my drive e too? and may i scan my drive e, from a tool which is in drive c? note: i can see ubuntu from windows, i can see windows from ubuntu
[03:44] <sarek> hi
[03:44] <Noelio> anyone in NYC?
[03:45] <nvez> IRCMonkeyx, the virus who infected it was activated from Windows, right?
[03:45] <IRCMonkeyx> nvez: yes
[03:45] <wrathlo> how do i view the available disk space i have?
[03:45] <gatekeeper> nvez: hypothetical I think
[03:45] <`blink> du -sh
[03:45] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: df
[03:45] <nvez> IRCMonkeyx, then your E (ext2) can't be read by windows
[03:45] <farous> top say that xorg is hoggng my system when i just use a terminal emiulator. this should not be the case having a centrino 1.8 GHz processor and 1GB of ram yet i have to wait 1sec typing each letter in a terminal emulator :(
[03:45] <crova`of`thx> `blink nothing man ;/, it is possible to run an irc client in safemode?
[03:46] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: hey again, could you help me please with this WINE error in terminal?
[03:46] <crova`of`thx> so i could run it and it would be easir to try something
[03:46] <nvez> So you're safe. :P
[03:46] <Dromen> nvez: what about if he has the ext driver installed in winblows?
[03:46] <`blink> dunno - try it
[03:46] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: not used wine but shoot :-)
[03:46] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: shoot? is that anorther 1?
[03:46] <IRCMonkeyx> nvez: my question , lets say i have an anti-virs in ubuntu, can i scan windows by it?
[03:46] <sarek> when copying files via scp from my notebook to another computer the notebook locks completely (need to hard reset) no matter whether it is connected via LAN or WLAN. But when I do it the other way round, so log in to the other computer and then scp files from the notebook it works. Any ideas?
[03:47] <nvez> IRCMonkeyx, If you mount the two other partitions, I really don't find a reason for it not to.
[03:47] <nvez> :)
[03:47] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: shoot == go ahead with your question :-)
[03:47] <wrathlo> where is that df?
[03:47] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: cli command in terminal
[03:47] <nvez> wrathlo, It's everywhere. =P
[03:47] <nvez> Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[03:48] <gatekeeper> nvez: don't be cruel :-)
[03:48] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: well i get a error in terminal when i follow the intrustions or something at the WINE website for ubuntu, the last instruction, apt-get source wine, well i get a error in E: child process falied and some order that i need dgp-dev file or something
[03:48] <wrathlo> i typed cli at the terminal, it says command not found
[03:48] <nvez> wrathlo,
[03:48] <nvez> Open terminal & type
[03:48] <nvez> df
[03:48] <Dromen> tpgterror: try apt-get dgp-dev
[03:49] <wrathlo> thanks!!!
[03:49] <nvez> No problem. :)
[03:49] <wrathlo> thank you all for the help!
[03:49] <wrathlo> my mp3 is playing now
[03:49] <wrathlo> a relieF!!!
[03:49] <wrathlo> one thing though, it is a bit choppy at times
[03:50] <wrathlo> how do i fix it?
[03:50] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: I don't thing you want the wine source code unless you plan on doing something with it, error probable because you don't have a repos with it in
[03:50] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: it was dpkg-dev, busy now with it
[03:50] <nvez> wrathlo, umm, choppy as in cuts and skips?
[03:50] <wrathlo> yes
[03:50] <nvez> Meh.  Not a huge fan of MP3s so I can't help. =P
[03:50] <Woosta> Which package would I get Helvetica (font) from?
[03:51] <wrathlo> thanks anyway nvez!
[03:51] <nvez> If I remember it was a wine fonts package, Woosta.  Let me check.
[03:51] <Woosta> shouldnt be .. it's not a MS font ..
[03:51] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: but just as last error ( same one ) it says check if dpkg-dev is installed, well and then i get a child process falied message
[03:51] <threeseas> man, my system got so bad doing whatever it was doing that I couldn't do anything and it eventually killed running applications
[03:52] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: ive made 2x repos with the link in Synaptic package manager
[03:52] <threeseas> now I'm updating 205 files on dialup - 13 plus hours
[03:52] <nvez> Though, Woosta, Nimbus Sans is based on Helvatica.
[03:52] <nvez> *Helvetica
[03:52] <nvez> :p
[03:53] <Woosta> Yeah, but that's not what I want
[03:53] <Woosta> I want Helvetica
[03:53] <threeseas> it'd be nice if I could have it do whatever it was doing and updates at night when I'm sleeping
[03:53] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: is it installed when you look in synaptic?
[03:53] <nvez> Heh. 8-)
[03:53] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: yes
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> threeseas: Did you not tell it to do the update now?
[03:54] <faddat> Hey, got a quick query.... when I try to install flash (package: flashplugin-nonfree), I check the chekbox, click next, and then it progresses no further.  Is there a problem with the package?
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> faddat: What program are you using to do it. apt, synaptic ?
[03:55] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: I think you are trying to install something you don't need, only need source code stuff if you are building stuff from source code
[03:55] <faddat> EasyUbuntu at first
[03:56] <faddat> and I've tried like 10x with Synaptic
[03:56] <faddat> and once with apt
[03:56] <faddat> lol
[03:56] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: well all i want is running steam or something
[03:56] <faddat> I'm really unsure what the trouble might be
[03:56] <threeseas> Jack_sparrow: yes I told it to do it now but this earlier insident I have little if any idea as to setting that fot night .... I can look at the logs but am unsure what I'm seeing
[03:57] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: and yes that is windows
[03:57] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: you just need to install the wine binaries to have a running system
[03:57] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: uhm how do i do that? is there any site of it to see how?
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> faddat:  just to be sure you are also clicking on the button that says APPLY in synaptic?
[03:57] <faddat> Yep :)
[03:57] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: what have you done so far?
[03:58] <faddat> it dies after I agree to download flash
[03:58] <faddat> just... sits there
[03:58] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: well ive followed the instructions at http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> That did not answer my question
[03:58] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: this is all you need to do: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_a_windows_emulator_.28Wine.29
[03:59] <faddat> yes, I clicked apply in synaptic
[03:59] <faddat> after selecting the package
[03:59] <faddat> sorry :)
[03:59] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: you trying to build wine from source?
[04:00] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: dont know, dont think so i think
[04:00] <faddat> after you click apply, the screen comes up asking me if I want to download flash, the package itself is just an installer stub
[04:00] <faddat> and then it goes byebye
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> faddat: If you go into synaptic now does it have a check next to it or not
[04:00] <wrathlo> i have tried to install the w32 codecs, but it says Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[04:00] <nvez> Uhh, Dapper = 6.06
[04:00] <nvez> Right?
[04:00] <someusernoob> yep
[04:00] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: i dont understand that link u gave me
[04:00] <faddat> no check because I "Completely removed" the package
[04:01] <faddat> b/c it never finishes installing
[04:01] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: nvm
[04:01] <faddat> and then makes apt very unhappy
[04:01] <crova`of`thx> how can i disable pcmcia services before booting?
[04:01] <faddat> But I just opened synaptic and checked to make sure
[04:01] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: have you got the wine repos in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> wrathlo: did you read this..  and how were you trying to get the package?  Were using the cli?
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[04:01] <threeseas> is there not a way to tell ubuntu to do updates at a given time of day. and am I correct in believing that 205 + updates didn't happen in the last 24 hours?
[04:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:01] <tpgterror> well im in that file now but i need to copy something in that?
[04:02] <tpgterror> gatekeeper
[04:02] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: paste /etc/apt/sources.list into pastebin and give me the URL
[04:02] <wrathlo> im just reading it now
[04:02] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: what is pastebin?
[04:02] <tomukas> what's the name of the program to capture screen videos?
[04:02] <tom12519> Hey guys
[04:02] <LjL> !tell tpgterror about pastebin
[04:02] <gatekeeper> !pastebin
[04:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:02] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: ^ ^
[04:02] <RiotingP> is there anyway to get ubuntu to read ntfs?
[04:02] <tom12519> Yes
[04:02] <LjL> !ntfs
[04:02] <jrib> tomukas: istanbul is one
[04:02] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[04:03] <tomukas> jrib: thanks, going to try it
[04:03] <tomukas> jrib: that's exactly what i meant... thank you very much
[04:03] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: I think you are making this 100x more difficult than it needs to be
[04:04] <wrathlo> i havent tried getting the package
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> RiotingP:  Easy to read, dangerous to write.   You can use this script to mount your NTFS and fat partitions
[04:04] <tom12519> Okay guys, I'm fairly new to programming, but I want to get better, naturally, I want to get better, what source code would you recommend I begin lookign at?
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[04:05] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: yes thats true, im a bit n00b, sorry, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17621
[04:05] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: comes with the territory :-)
[04:05] <LjL> tom12519: uhm, that's probably best asked in #ubuntu-offtopic - anyway, if you're fairly new to programming i don't recommend you read source code, but rather books and courses
[04:05] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: i know :P
[04:05] <faddat> Might there be a manual way to get flash onto my ubuntu-ness?
[04:06] <jrib> faddat: the package is not working?
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> tom12519: I too learn more reading well documented source code..
[04:06] <faddat> jrib:  Here's what happens, I'll do it right now so I can tell you exactly
[04:06] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: you are running breezy 5.1?
[04:07] <faddat> jrib:  I'm going to follow www.ubuntuguide.org instructions
[04:07] <tpgterror> think so, but IF that is true then i got the wrong repos at my synaptic package manager
[04:08] <faddat> now I'm selecting yes telling it I want it to download the package from the Internet
[04:08] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: you have a mixture which is not good hang on we need to fix this...
[04:09] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: ok ill wait, thanks
[04:09] <faddat> jrib:  Now, " Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.63.3ubuntu3) ..."  This is where it typically dies
[04:10] <faddat> jrib:  waiting......
[04:10] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: also when i want to update it says that i cant update 3 files, named gstreamer0.8-misc and gstreamer0.8-vorbis and libopenal0
[04:10] <jrib> faddat: so does it eventually tell you it can't download the file?
[04:11] <faddat> jrib:  typically, it just does nothing
[04:11] <faddat> jrib:  Actually I've never had it tell me it can't download the file
[04:11] <faddat> Jrib:  but I've figured that is the problem
[04:12] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: will PM you to make this a bit easier
[04:12] <jrib> faddat: ok, download the file manually and put it on your desktop
[04:12] <faddat> the .tar.gz file, right?
[04:12] <jrib> faddat: right
[04:12] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: ok, i hope i can talk too then ^^
[04:12] <faddat> okay, one second....
[04:12] <threeseas> this update process, it knows what files it has dl'ed in the event I stop it or my isp drops carrier?
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[04:13] <crova`of`thx> how can i disable pcmcia services before booting?
[04:13] <faddat> jrib:  okay, done
[04:13] <gatekeeper> tpgterror: do -> /join #tpgterror
[04:14] <threeseas> thanks
[04:14] <jrib> faddat: sudo update-flashplugin -l ~/Desktop
[04:14] <faddat> oh, nice!
[04:14] <faddat> Thanks man!
[04:14] <tpgterror> gatekeeper: done
[04:14] <Solskogen> Is there a jdk for ubuntu on powerpc?
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> What is jdk
[04:15] <gatekeeper> !pastebin
[04:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:15] <Solskogen> Jack_Sparrow: Java development kit
[04:15] <faddat> jrib: I'm going to restart moz, and see what happens, thanks for the help though-- last step to a perfect PC :)
[04:16] <PDani_> hi
[04:16] <jrib> faddat: np, remember it never hurts to check the man pages even though I'll admit they are hard to read through sometimes
[04:16] <PDani_> how can i cross-compile on an amd64 ubuntu 32-bit binaries?
[04:17] <nvez> :O
[04:17] <faddat> jrib:  Packages have man pages, or.... how would I do that in this context?  Typically, I know how to do that, but would it just be.... man update-flashplugin?
[04:17] <nvez> No shockwave?!
[04:17] <jrib> faddat: yep, man update-flashplugin is what let me know about that -l switch
[04:18] <faddat> Thanks man :)!
[04:18] <faddat> Muchly appreciated.
[04:18] <faddat> brb
[04:19] <Stork> how can i assign keyboard keys (hex values) to commands?
[04:20] <nvez> Anyone has ever installed shockwave on Linux and how does it work?
[04:21] <jrib> !shockwave
[04:21] <ubotu> shockwave is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[04:21] <nvez> thanks
[04:21] <nvez> p.s: i hate wine.
[04:21] <nvez> :p
[04:21] <Stork> red or white
[04:21] <Stork> surely you can't hate both
[04:21] <FunnyLookinHat> I hate Flash in linux.
[04:21] <FunnyLookinHat> it sux
[04:21] <Stork> flash in linux hates you
[04:21] <Dagataka> Is it safe to install the ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop on the same system or would their be a lot of conflicts?
[04:22] <FunnyLookinHat> Dagataka, yea. it's just a meta package
[04:22] <hctibtipots> can sum1 give me a hand with connecting a wireless network connection???
[04:22] <Stork> how can i assign keyboard keys (hex values) to commands?
[04:22] <jrib> Dagataka: should be safe
[04:22] <Dagataka> ok good stuff thanks
[04:22] <FunnyLookinHat> Dagataka, but I'm not sure it would accomplish what you are looking for
[04:22] <VoX> i know this is a /really/, really, bad question.. but is there a realplayer player for linux, or anything that will show a streaming realmedia format?
[04:22] <Dagataka> I want to be able to log out and login with different sessions - KDE, Gnome and XFCE
[04:22] <jrib> !realplayer
[04:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:22] <Sub> VoX, there is arealplayer for linux
[04:23] <jrib> VoX: there is realplayer and mplayer with w32codecs can also play "real" media
[04:24] <florian> hi, does anyone know a repo where i can get flashplayer 8 from?
[04:24] <gnomefreak> florian: its not built fr linux
[04:24] <gnomefreak> for
[04:24] <nvez> uhh
[04:24] <FunnyLookinHat> VoX,  you can add this line to your sources.list to get the "official" realplayer    deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[04:24] <nvez> gnomefreak, there is flash, but nots hockwave.
[04:24] <gnomefreak> florian: lastest build is flash 7
[04:24] <nvez> oh
[04:24] <nvez> well flash player 7. :P
[04:24] <gnomefreak> nvez: there is no flash 8 for linux and wont be
[04:25] <hctibtipots>  can sum1 give me a hand with connecting a wireless network connection???
[04:25] <nvez> my bad, gnomefreak :P  I went for flash instead of "shockwave"
[04:25] <nvez> =P
[04:25] <florian> some webpage require flash 8.... why won't there be flash 8?
[04:25] <nvez> go tell Adobe.
[04:25] <nvez> :P
[04:25] <FunnyLookinHat> florian, because adobe has screwed us
[04:25] <gnomefreak> ;)
[04:25] <nvez> Heh, feels weird "flash" and "adobe"
[04:25] <nvez> =P
[04:25] <Stork> omg
[04:25] <mjr> you want proper flash for linux, support the gnash reimplementation project :)
[04:25] <FunnyLookinHat> i know....  : (
[04:25] <Stork> zOMG
[04:25] <Amaranth> florian: adobe skipped flash 8 and decided to wait until flash 9 for linux
[04:25] <gnomefreak> florian: flash said they didnt want to build it for linux 9 is being talked about for linux
[04:25] <FunnyLookinHat> mjr, get gnash onto the repos and then I'll support it  ;)
[04:26] <crova`of`thx> not having a swap partition can result in problems while booting the ubuntu?
[04:26] <Dagataka> VoX - take a look at Automatix this will automatically install RealPlayer and w32codecs etc.
[04:26] <Amaranth> nvez: They also changed "Acrobat Reader" to "Adobe Reader"
[04:26] <florian> ok, i see
[04:26] <nvez> Heh.
[04:26] <lwizardl> did the repos for 5.10 stop ?
[04:26] <Amaranth> nvez: So it's now "Adobe Flash" and "Adobe Reader"
[04:26] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: what about acroread that will still read them all right?
[04:26] <Stork> how do i change the default music player in ubuntu
[04:26] <nvez> What's next, Adobe Shockwave :(
[04:26] <Amaranth> lwizardl: They still exist but only get security updates.
[04:26] <nvez> I'll kill for linux shockwave support.
[04:26] <nvez> =P
[04:26] <gnomefreak> nvez: good luck on that one
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix
[04:26] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[04:26] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: acroread? They changed the name.
[04:27] <nvez> Heh. :P
[04:27] <FunnyLookinHat> !Easyubuntu
[04:27] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:27] <FunnyLookinHat> Use that one
[04:27] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: its acroread in ubuntu repos
[04:27] <Amaranth> nvez: Crossover Plugin is what you want
[04:27] <FunnyLookinHat> ; )
[04:27] <mjr> nvez, threatening to kill would probably be more effective. Maybe kidnapping to put credibility on that.
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> NOte the warnings
[04:27] <VoX> Dagataka: automatix?
[04:27] <florian> does gnash then work properly?
[04:27] <Amaranth> florian: not really, it's still just starting
[04:27] <mjr> florian, no, that's why it needs support ;)
[04:27] <FunnyLookinHat> I thought to help people in this channel you had to swear off Automatix....  lol
[04:27] <lido``> Is anyone running Ubuntu via Virtual PC window?
[04:27] <gnomefreak> florian: not really atleast last i heard
[04:27] <Amaranth> florian: Last time I tried it it killed Firefox when something flash was loaded
[04:27] <nvez> mjr, or all of Freenode could break into Adobe headquarters. :P
[04:28] <lwizardl> Amaranth, hmm ok because i think the 6.06 nvidia drivers are flawed. everytime i install it using 6.06 lts and restartx it hangs
[04:28] <florian> I'll give it a try anyway
[04:28] <zenwhen> I used Automatix to set up a new system yesterday and after tons of testing the only effect it had was making the system work perfectly with everything I tried.
[04:28] <Amaranth> FunnyLookinHat: No, we just don't like discussions of automatix or easyubuntu in this channel. We'd rather help you do things on your own.
[04:28] <zenwhen> Cool.
[04:28] <gnomefreak> the official way ;)
[04:28] <Dagataka> Automatix is the future of Linux imo or at least for Ubuntu
[04:29] <lido``> I installed 6.06 server (LAMP) and upon reboot it goes to text interface... is this ormal or is it supposed to boot to GUI?
[04:29] <VoX> hmm im guessing there is no 64bit realplayer for larnux
[04:29] <FunnyLookinHat> Amaranth, ahh ok.  Agreed.  : )
[04:29] <Amaranth> Dagataka: /join #automatix :P
[04:29] <mjr> VoX, correct
[04:29] <VoX> mmmuh
[04:29] <dr_willis> ugh.. yea.. right..
[04:29] <lwizardl> lido``, thats normal lts is linux terminal server
[04:29] <Amaranth> VoX: 64-bit gets a raw deal with Linux and Windows
[04:29] <hctibtipots> how can i get my wireless connection to connect???
[04:29] <pezza_uk> I'm having problems installing VMWare Player; it fails when loading the VMWare services
[04:30] <nvez> lolol
[04:30] <Amaranth> hctibtipots: Do you have an internet connection on the machine with wireless?
[04:30] <alamba> Hi, is there a howto out there for configuring your modem on ubuntu?
[04:30] <nvez> I'm running Linux Firefox & Windows Firefox.
[04:30] <nvez> :P
[04:30] <Amaranth> hctibtipots: I mean are you on the internet with it right now.
[04:30] <hctibtipots> yeah...
[04:30] <Amaranth> hctibtipots: install network-manager-gnome
[04:30] <mjr> Amaranth, mostly 64-bit gets a raw deal with proprietary software
[04:30] <Jack_Sparrow> alamba: WHat type of modem is it?
[04:30] <hctibtipots> it is configured it the router, card is detected on the machine but wont connect
[04:31] <Amaranth> hctibtipots: it doesn't automatically connect, you have to use some tool to make it do so
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> hctibtipots: Detected does not mean it works
[04:31] <alamba> Jack: have no clue....its part of HP dv1375 laptop...most everything else worked out of the box
[04:31] <Amaranth> hctibtipots: either network-manager-gnome or command line
[04:31] <oskude> Dagataka, only think i know, 2 people had broke system when wanting to do the same as i did, and the only difference was, they used automatix...
[04:31] <Amaranth> oskude: /join #automatix
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> alamba: google your laptop to see what chipset the modem uses
[04:31] <gnomefreak> oskude: and Dagataka please move this to #automatix
[04:32] <pezza_uk> invoke-rc.d: initscript vmware-player, action "start" failed.
[04:32] <oskude> Amaranth, gnomefreak i just wanted to say i _know_ automatix is bad...
[04:32] <hctibtipots> i have configured the ssid and wep in the manager and it still will not connect, and in the network monitor there is no signal
[04:32] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: hehe, 70wpm
[04:32] <gnomefreak> oskude: again that is a big no no in here
[04:32] <Dagataka> each to their own
[04:32] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: :O
[04:32] <HorzA> how do i change my keyb layout to ISO-8859-1?
[04:33] <Amaranth> HorzA: System->Preferences->Keyboard
[04:33] <mjr> HorzA, it's not a keyboard layout issue
[04:33] <MSch> why does gnome use a different $PATH than the shell and how can i change it?
[04:33] <HorzA> its ubuntuserver, so just console on it
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> I can do 80 wpm as long as they are all 4 letter words and I am pissed off.  :)
[04:33] <Amaranth> MSch: I don't think it does.
[04:33] <jrib> MSch: /etc/login.defs is what sets your path... you can use ~/.gnomerc for your user
[04:33] <juztin> what application can i use to live record all JACK server output?
[04:34] <Amaranth> MSch: but ~/.bashrc isn't going to set $PATH for gnome
[04:34] <WhiteNinja> who cares on typing when nobody can read and understand? *laughing
[04:34] <FunnyLookinHat> juztin, if a JACK server is audio/video... I
[04:34] <FunnyLookinHat> juztin, I'm fairly sure that VLC can record it's streams
[04:34] <Amaranth> jrib: actually you want /etc/environment, i think
[04:34] <juztin> FunnyLookinHat, its audio
[04:34] <Fjodor> gnomefreak: stefg left, so will you help me? Trying to get dapper server going on an old box. Right after grub, the machine reboots. I have now noticed, that when running grub-install, I get stage2 not read correctly. How to fix?
[04:34] <juztin> FunnyLookinHat, what's VLC?
[04:35] <dr_willis> !info vlc
[04:35] <FunnyLookinHat> juztin, it's a media player/recorder...
[04:35] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[04:35] <FunnyLookinHat> !vlc
[04:35] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[04:35] <Amaranth> FunnyLookinHat: jack is like esd
[04:35] <Lynoure> Mine is closer to the human average :)
[04:35] <LjL> Lynoure: ktouch told me i'm doing about 80 wpm. i'm disappointed >:
[04:35] <gnomefreak> !grub > Fjodor
[04:35] <jrib> Amaranth: actually you may be right, I know that /etc/login.defs was for breezy but I heard something about changing that for dapper
[04:35] <FunnyLookinHat> Amaranth, oooh , so it's local
[04:35] <FunnyLookinHat> no clue then
[04:35] <Amaranth> FunnyLookinHat: it's a sound daemon for your desktop but it's mainly used for audio editing apps because it has low latency
[04:35] <gnomefreak> Fjodor: your pm has links for the codes and easy fix for them
[04:35] <hctibtipots> help with wireless connection
[04:36] <Amaranth> hctibtipots: do you have network-manager-gnome installed?
[04:36] <Lynoure> LjL: That's still better than mine. Ever since I tried to switch to traditional touchtyping, I've been slower than efore
[04:36] <hctibtipots> yes
[04:36] <Amaranth> hctibtipots: is it running?
[04:36] <MSch> Amaranth: i always thought that there's a .xinitrc that gets executed by bash and therefor .bashrc works?
[04:36] <hctibtipots> it is now
[04:36] <Fjodor> gnomefreak: Thanks
[04:36] <Amaranth> hctibtipots: click on it
[04:36] <Amaranth> MSch: I don't think so.
[04:36] <hctibtipots> ok
[04:36] <LjL> Lynoure: "traditional touchtyping"?
[04:36] <gnomefreak> Fjodor: last time i saw a grub error i re-installed so im not sure how to fix certain grub errors
[04:37] <Amaranth> hctibtipots: it should show a list of wireless networks in the area
[04:37] <MSch> jrib: there's no .gnomerc on my ubuntu, is it a simple shell script just like .bashrc?
[04:37] <jrib> MSch: yeah, you can just create it
[04:37] <Amaranth> MSch: /etc/environment is probably where you want to set the path
[04:37] <Lynoure> LjL: you know, all fingers on the baseline, no looking at the keys
[04:37] <alamba> Jack: google isn't being very helpful...is there another way for me to find it (lsmod, etc.)?
[04:37] <hctibtipots> 1 sec...
[04:37] <MSch> Amaranth: well, it should be for my user only, so /etc/environment won't do
[04:37] <Amaranth> ah
[04:37] <Lynoure> LjL: Previously I used about 8 fingers and occasionally peeked :)
[04:38] <Amaranth> ~/.gnomerc then, I guess
[04:38] <hctibtipots> ok im an idiot i dont have a network manager gnome installed
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Fjodor: HOw old is that box and does it have serial ata drives or usb2
[04:39] <jrib> Amaranth: did /etc/environment exist in breezy?
[04:39] <Amaranth> jrib: I believe so
[04:40] <LjL> Lynoure: oh, right. well i don't "traditionally" touchtype either and i rarely use my shortest finger except for meta-keys, but i don't think the "traditional" approach is that much better than the way i'm doing it. i do it more like i'm playing the piano, which in the end means i can "optimize" words, while with "traditional touchtyping" you end up having some words which are extremely difficult to type
[04:40] <Amaranth> hctibtipots: ok, open synaptic (System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager), search for network-manager-gnome, and install it
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> alamba: what is your laptop model number?
[04:40] <hctibtipots> i did a search and nuttin came up
[04:40] <Amaranth> hctibtipots: then open a terminal and run `nm-applet` to start it (it'll start on login after this)
[04:40] <Amaranth> !info network-manager-gnome
[04:40] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME Frontend). In repository main, is optional. Version 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 234 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[04:40] <Amaranth> hctibtipots: it's in main
[04:40] <Fjodor> Jack_Sparrow: It's an old k6-2, so no on both ;-)
[04:40] <Amaranth> hctibtipots: do you have dapper?
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> alamba: We are probably going to find it is a winmodem
[04:40] <Fjodor> gnomefreak: Ok
[04:40] <alamba> Jack: 1375ea....looks like its a Rockwell HCF 56K modem
[04:41] <dragon> hi
[04:41] <alamba> Jack: correction...HP DV 1375ea
[04:41] <Amaranth> hctibtipots: you need Ubuntu 6.06 "dapper" for this to work
[04:42] <dragon> i want to install limewire , do i hafta update to 6.06 to do that....
[04:42] <Sub> dragon, use frostwire
[04:42] <alamba> Jack: I'm almost sure it's a winmodem...i know that causes trouble but isn't there a way to make winmodems work with linux?
[04:42] <hctibtipots> yes i do
[04:42] <dragon> fristwire instead of limewire?
[04:42] <nvez> Uhh, I'm having trouble installing Shockwave, I installed WINE+Firefox with Shockwave, added lines in mozplugger, now when I open a shockwave page, instead of loading it, it prompts to download a file (which I'm sure is the shockwave file) and doesn't load it inside the webpage.
[04:42] <Warbo> dragon: You just need Java
[04:42] <mjr> alamba, some yes, some no
[04:42] <Warbo> !java
[04:42] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:42] <mjr> alamba, see http://linmodems.org/ for further information
[04:42] <hctibtipots> i typed nm-applet and sed command not found
[04:43] <jrib> !modem > alamba
[04:43] <alamba> mjr: understandable...will look into the link...
[04:43] <dragon> does that come with ubuntu or what
[04:43] <Warbo> dragon: (I think that Sun one is only in Dapper, so use j2re1.4 instead)
[04:43] <jrib> alamba: that might help too
[04:43] <dragon> <<<<<<<nooblet
[04:43] <Warbo> dragon: If you have Universe and Multiverse enabled look for j2re1.4 package
[04:43] <Amaranth> hctibtipots: you have to install the network-manager-gnome package first
[04:43] <pezza_uk> is there anyone to help me with a problem i'm having with installing VMWare?
[04:43] <alamba> jrib: u mean "!modem" as a command? didn't help..event not found
[04:43] <dragon> ...
[04:44] <erUSUL> !vmware
[04:44] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[04:44] <jrib> alamba: nah, you should have received a private message from ubotu, !modem just invokes ubotu
[04:44] <dragon> i have 5.04
[04:44] <hctibtipots> that is not in the synaptic manager
[04:44] <juztin> !w64
[04:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about w64
[04:44] <Warbo> dragon: Search for "java" what comes up? (in apt-cache or Synaptic)
[04:45] <dr_willis> dragon,  i advise updating, or reinstalling  the latest ubuntu dapper.
[04:45] <dragon> just a sec ill chek
[04:45] <erUSUL> !upgrade
[04:45] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[04:45] <hctibtipots> i have not done any updates to the installation
[04:45] <dragon> java common comes up
[04:45] <Warbo> Sounds like M$ tech support.....
[04:45] <dragon> and its installed
[04:46] <dr_willis> Warbo,  nah - they would say call dell.
[04:46] <Warbo> dragon: You need a runtime environment "re", any?
[04:46] <dragon> if i update to 6.06 am i gonna loose all mah stuff?
[04:46] <gatekeeper> what the cli command to get the ubuntu version folks?
[04:46] <Warbo> dragon: No
[04:46] <alamba> cool...thanks all....got the link on dial-up from ubuntu wiki...am going to get the chipset using scanmodem and then get back to the room
[04:46] <dragon> ok
[04:46] <Warbo> uname?
[04:46] <wk2x> hello people! I've a problem with my TV-Card, i use kubuntu 6.06 (dapper), the tvcard is a pinnacle 110 and was recognised from kdetv, and i find sender, but i have no picture and no sound, can anybody help me?
[04:47] <dragon> ok so if i update to 6.06 then try sun java it shud work
[04:47] <Warbo> dragon: Definetly (erm, I hope...)
[04:47] <dragon> lol me to....
[04:48] <dragon> im not a wiz with pc's i just wanna do this once then thats it.....lol
[04:48] <gast_> fick dich du spasst
[04:48] <wk2x> help me please..
[04:48] <gast_> ok i will help you
[04:48] <gast_> whats your problem
[04:49] <gast__> hi everybody
[04:49] <gast__> how r u
[04:49] <wk2x> 16:48:47) wk2x: hello people! I've a problem with my TV-Card, i use kubuntu 6.06 (dapper), the tvcard is a pinnacle 110 and was recognised from kdetv, and i find sender, but i have no picture and no sound, can anybody help me?
[04:49] <kevinz> hello. i want the later version of "python-mutagen" to convert mp3 tags, the version in dapper is not competent. What can i do?
[04:49] <gast_> fuck you all  i am freso
[04:49] <SonicChao> gast_: Log out you're clone, please
[04:49] <gast_> fredo
[04:49] <gast_> hey my friends
[04:49] <gast_> ubuntu
[04:49] <gast_> adfnisdnc
[04:49] <SonicChao> gast_: keep the language appropriate
[04:49] <gast_> dbhcsox,c
[04:49] <gast_> +sdncsd,c
[04:49] <Lynoure> !ops
[04:49] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[04:49] <gast_> mws#m
[04:49] <gast_> +d
[04:49] <gast_> mkc
[04:49] <gast_> +wsd
[04:49] <SonicChao> Seveas: Help
[04:50] <gast_> wksneid
[04:50] <SonicChao> Seveas: We've got a little problem here
[04:50] <Seveas> SonicChao, no need to poke every second
[04:50] <SonicChao> Seveas: Thanks :)
[04:50] <Trae> Is there some way, via a log file or something, to ascertain exactly how my machine was last shut down?  My laptop just shut off on me for no apparent reason, certainly not from my doing so.
[04:50] <bertu> hey how can you know your local machine name?
[04:50] <Acill> can someone tell me a way I can see what IP my router has assigned to mu system on eth1?
[04:50] <wk2x> 16:48:47) wk2x: hello people! I've a problem with my TV-Card, i use kubuntu 6.06 (dapper), the tvcard is a pinnacle 110 and was recognised from kdetv, and i find sender, but i have no picture and no sound, can anybody help me?
[04:50] <SonicChao> Seveas: Didn't know if you were here or not...so I pinged you
[04:50] <SonicChao> sorry
[04:50] <erUSUL> Trae: /var/log/messages
[04:50] <Fjodor> gnomefreak: Seems the stage2-thing is unrelated, and neither of the links seem to cover my initial problem. stefg wanted me to boot from a breezy live CD, but left before telling me what he wanted with it. Probably trying to see if it would boot at all, which it will
[04:50] <oskude> Acill, on the terminal "ifconfig" enter
[04:51] <erUSUL> Acill: ifconfig eth1
[04:51] <Fjodor> Should I try installing a breezy kernel on the system perhaps?
[04:51] <bertu> can someone tell me how to check the local machine name?
[04:51] <SonicChao> bertu: uname -a
[04:51] <Acill> thanks, that did it
[04:51] <stefg> Fjodor: i'm back, and all i wanted to see is, if you can get a breezy CD to boot on the box
[04:52] <Fjodor> stefg: Hi again. Booting it now
[04:52] <bertu> 10x
[04:52] <Trae> Jul  9 10:45:02 localhost kernel: [17179591.292000]  Warning: PCI driver ipw2200 has a struct device_driver shutdown method, please update!
[04:53] <Dromen> i compiled kaffeine 0.81 from source but still my system will only run kaffeine 0.71
[04:54] <Dromen> whys it not updating
[04:54] <apokryphos> Dromen: you should've read the FAQ entry on compiling apps. It's best to use checkinstall
[04:54] <Trae> Jul  9 10:43:21 localhost shutdown[24925] : shutting down for system halt  --  What is the 24925 for ?
[04:54] <Dromen> ?
[04:54] <Dromen> ah apokryphos whats the link for that?
[04:54] <Fjodor> stefg: Perhaps I should put a breezy kernel on the system, just to try? I don't think that's it, though, as the dapper install disk booted fine
[04:54] <oskude> Dromen, you should not compile things if you dont know what youre doing...
[04:54] <stefg> Fjodor: i doubt very much that you'll be able to run dapper with a breezy kernel
[04:54] <apokryphos> Dromen: it's in the channel /topic
[04:54] <Dromen> well compiling from source used to be fine on suse
[04:54] <Fjodor> stefg: Ok. Just a thought
[04:54] <Dromen> surely not much difference
[04:55] <Dromen> !topic
[04:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about topic
[04:55] <apokryphos> Dromen: of course it'd work fine too, but compiling apps *anywhere*, it's best to remove the old one first.
[04:55] <stefg> Fjodor: so this means you /can/ boot with 2.6.12 ?
[04:55] <Trae> Dromen,  heh /topic
[04:55] <EnsilZah> Question - Where do i find information about the options i can use for nvidia drivers in the xorg.conf?
[04:55] <apokryphos> Dromen: and even on suse, it's better to use checkinstall for most apps too
[04:55] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Dromen about faq
[04:55] <pezza_uk> I've followed the documentation given for installing VMWare Player but it only tells me to install vmware-player package. That's where I'm having problems!
[04:55] <dr_willis> EnsilZah,  the nvidia homepage has a detailed readme/docs on all the options
[04:55] <Fjodor> stefg: Seems so. It's in the process of setting everything up, but has booted fine so far
[04:55] <Dromen> !faq
[04:55] <ubotu> faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[04:55] <EnsilZah> Alright, thanks.
[04:56] <stefg> interesting... dmesg and the log's might give us a clue why 2.6.15 fails
[04:56] <Fjodor> stefg: Yes, getting the splash screen now
[04:56] <Trae> that's quite bothersome that my machine just shut down for no reason.  My battery is at 100% too
[04:56] <t-thing_> Hi. I'm configuring my configuring apache2 to be used with relay filemanager script. I've installed libapache2-mod-perl2, added type to apache2.conf and made sure module is in the loaded directory and last but not least restarted apache2. Still, my browser tries to give me upload.pl (type perl script) file as a download. What to do? Thanks
[04:56] <bertu> i am trying to configur mysql
[04:57] <bertu> and when i type my username it tells me that username is invalid
[04:58] <oskude> bertu, mysql has different user database as the linux system
[04:58] <t-thing_> bertu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:58] <bertu> look i pasted the error in the pastebin
[04:58] <bertu> my name is albert
[04:59] <eSPete__> anyone know how to fix when i can't type @ i nubuntu?
[04:59] <Fjodor> stefg: looking at dmesg now. What to look for?
[04:59] <bertu> i was in that page
[04:59] <t-thing_> bertu: did you read it?
[04:59] <bertu> ok reading
[04:59] <Fjodor> stefg: acpi seems present
[04:59] <Fjodor> stefg: apic not so
[04:59] <stefg> Fjodor, any chance of getting the box connected and pasting it?
[04:59] <oskude> bertu, look in google, many people have written howtos on howto add users in mysql... (or how to set password for the mysql root user)
[04:59] <richard> Has anyone installed the latest ATI drivers on the 2.6.17.1 kernel?? i am getting this error when running sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17626
[04:59] <t-thing_> bertu: Yes, being on the page doesn't give you miracles, you do have to read it.
[05:00] <bertu> ok i am reading
[05:00] <Fjodor> stefg: Depends if X works. I alt-f2'ed
[05:00] <Fjodor> stefg: 2 sec
[05:00] <bertu> no the problem is that it isn't reading my username when i am installing
[05:01] <oskude> bertu, dont understand...
[05:01] <bertu> tell me then
[05:01] <Dromen> so you type checkinstall instead of make install ?
[05:01] <t-thing_> bertu: we don't understand you. Be more verbal.
[05:01] <stefg> Fjodor: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting,plz
[05:01] <bertu> Ok
[05:02] <bertu> Look...i was installing apache...then php...then mysqu
[05:02] <stefg> !lamp
[05:02] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:03] <kbrooks> bertu: Don't compile it
[05:03] <wastrel> don't compile what?
[05:03] <nvez> !pastebin
[05:03] <MenZa> !xampp
[05:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:03] <Dromen> apokryphos: after all that checkinstall still made no difference?
[05:03] <MenZa> ;P
[05:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about xampp
[05:03] <bertu> sql...at first it tells me to write the password and i succeed then after it tells me (while installing in terminal) to connect root@ local-machine-name an then password
[05:03] <MenZa> :O1
[05:04] <billq> hiya's
[05:04] <nvez> So, the root MYSQL password doesn'T work right?
[05:04] <apokryphos> Dromen: (i) completely remove kaffeine (though if you did things right, checkinstall would do this): sudo apt-get --purge remove kaffeine
[05:04] <nvez> Did you set it up yet?  it's different than the "normal" linux root. :)
[05:04] <Dromen> ok
[05:04] <apokryphos> Dromen: then, go into the new kaffeine source directory, ./configure --prefix=/usr && make && sudo checkinstall
[05:04] <bertu> no the problem is that the username is not accepted
[05:04] <nvez> error: 'Unknown MySQL server host 'root@bertu-desktop' (1)'
[05:05] <bertu> yes
[05:05] <nvez> No, actually it's not finding your server :)
[05:05] <nvez> Try connecting to localhost instead of your hostname
[05:05] <bertu> so what shall i do
[05:05] <nvez> so instead of using
[05:05] <nvez> bertu-desktop
[05:05] <nvez> use localhost
[05:05] <bertu> ok
[05:05] <Dromen> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:05] <nvez> Dromen, did you sudo apt-get ...
[05:05] <nvez> ?
[05:05] <gatekeeper> !pastebin
[05:05] <Dromen> nvez: think it was synaptic
[05:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:05] <oskude> bertu, i hope you did "mysql -u root -p" (notice the -p, without that it wont ask you for the password when login in)
[05:05] <Dromen> working now
[05:06] <nvez> Ah. :P
[05:06] <bertu> ok
[05:06] <Dromen> removing kaffeine
[05:06] <Dromen> done
[05:06] <Dromen> running ./configure again
[05:06] <t-thing_> gatekeeper: why are you flooding the channel with pastebin info? :)
[05:06] <Dromen> Good - your configure finished. Start make now
[05:07] <nvez> He id it once, t-thing_
[05:07] <nvez> =P
[05:07] <apokryphos> Dromen: make sure you specified the prefix
[05:07] <reiki> ooooohhh.kaaayyyyy.... well it appears that hardware monitoring in a VM doesn't work. I can't believe I can't see CPU temp and fan speeds in linux with an Asus motherboard
[05:07] <Dromen> now make nvez?
[05:07] <gatekeeper> t-thing_: only asked for it twice because I forget the URL sorry
[05:07] <nvez> Dromen,
[05:07] <Stork> hi, can anyone explain this error:
[05:07] <Stork> alex@ubuntu64:~$ dumpkeys
[05:07] <Stork> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[05:07] <nvez> Before, make sure nothing like synaptic
[05:07] <bertu> look i wrote
[05:07] <t-thing_> gatekeeper: no problem, i was just being a wiseass.
[05:07] <bertu> mysqladmin -h root@localhost -u root password *************
[05:07] <Dromen> yeh ive closed em all
[05:07] <nvez> is running, ps -A
[05:08] <Dromen> so now type prefix=/usr && make && sudo checkinstall
[05:08] <billq> hey is gcc stuffed in dapper getting error :gcc: hello.c: No such file or directory :gcc: no input files
[05:08] <gatekeeper> t-thing_: I have shit memory :-(
[05:08] <apokryphos> Dromen: no!
[05:08] <Dromen> ok
[05:08] <bertu> did i write it good or not
[05:08] <Stork> anyone??
[05:08] <t-thing_> gatekeeper: well you can scroll the window
[05:08] <apokryphos> Dromen: ./configure --prefix=/usr is what you should've type for it
[05:08] <Dromen> ok
[05:08] <nvez> uhh
[05:08] <nvez> Hold on, bertu =p
[05:08] <apokryphos> Dromen: also, since you already previously tried to compile, you should make clean before doing that.
[05:08] <nvez> Okay, you did it right, bertu
[05:08] <nvez> Try
[05:08] <Dromen> type make clean?
[05:09] <cocox> hi anyone know wich port should i enable in firestarter or iptables for get connected to the update repositories ???
[05:09] <apokryphos> Dromen: yes
[05:09] <gatekeeper> t-thing_: I have to remember that sorry (doh I am plonker)
[05:09] <Dromen> ok
[05:09] <apokryphos> Dromen: then type exactly the above
[05:09] <Dromen> done
[05:09] <bertu> and what port should i use?
[05:09] <nvez> mysql -h localhost -u root -p
[05:09] <t-thing_> gatekeeper: also as a tip, you can private message bots
[05:09] <nvez> Type that, bertu, port, it'll use default.
[05:09] <apokryphos> Dromen: which is: ./configure --prefix=/usr && make && sudo checkinstall
[05:09] <Dromen> hmm ok
[05:09] <okie-homie> looking for an example /etc/fstab... mine is completely empty...
[05:09] <gatekeeper> t-thing_: cool
[05:09] <bertu> ERROR 1049 (42000): Unknown database 'kitjahdem'
[05:10] <Dromen> apokryphos: lets see what happens :D
[05:10] <gatekeeper> t-thing_: will try that thanx
[05:10] <nvez> but, bertu, it logged in right :)
[05:10] <nvez> Unknown database is probably becasue the database doesn't exist.
[05:10] <bertu> so it is logged on eh
[05:10] <oskude> okie-homie, /etc/fstab is depentant to the system its installed, you propably dont have the same drives as i do...
[05:10] <nvez> Yeah, it logged on but when you're trying to select the database, kitjahdem, it's not finding it.
[05:10] <Dromen> apokryphos: This package will be built according to these values:
[05:10] <Dromen> the defaults look ok ?
[05:11] <apokryphos> Dromen: they're probably fine, yes.
[05:11] <Dromen> making a debian package
[05:11] <okie-homie> yeah, I can alter the drives/swap... need it for proc, sysfs, etc.
[05:11] <Dromen> ok its been made and it says where its saved
[05:11] <Dromen> run that now?
[05:11] <okie-homie> Did an alternate install to enable linux-raid... there's no base-config...
[05:11] <bertu> it seems running now 10x
[05:11] <Fjodor_server> Oh the pain of gnome on a k6-2 500... stefg: waiting for pastebin
[05:12] <Dromen> apokryphos: do i run the deb file now?
[05:12] <oskude> nvez, what did you type ? does "show databases;" show it (i hope thats correct command)
[05:12] <apokryphos> Dromen: you install it now, yes.
[05:12] <Dromen> ok
[05:12] <okie-homie> oskude: even if you snip out your stuff... that'd be enough...
[05:12] <nvez> lol, oskude, it's bertu who's having the trouble and im explaining him how the db is not existant :P
[05:13] <oskude> okie-homie, sec
[05:13] <oskude> nvez, ok, sorry
[05:13] <Dromen> Package was installed
[05:13] <okie-homie> oskude: np
[05:13] <Dromen> apokryphos: now how do i start kaffeine?
[05:13] <apokryphos> Dromen: alt+f2 -> kaffeine
[05:13] <Breezy-CA> Hi - I'm preparing to upgrade to Dapper from Breezy. Update-manager is 0.42.2ubuntu12~breezy2 and I'm planning to follow the directions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades. Problems I've noticed so far: update-manager says that totem and wine cannot be updated. wine was locked; I unlocked it in Synaptic and ran the update-manager check again ... same result. Also, when installing software, I've noticed that some gn
[05:13] <Breezy-CA> ome libs are shown as unconfigured. Can anyone give me a sense of how much trouble I am about to get into with the upgrade to Dapper here ?
[05:13] <Ropechoborra> I got the music volume and the system sounds.. (eg. Gaim, xChat etc..) i want the music sound to be louder than the others... what can i do?
[05:13] <cocox> hi anyone knows wich ports should i enable in firestarter or iptables for get connected to the update repositories ???
[05:13] <Dromen> apokryphos: bash: kaffeine: command not found
[05:14] <Dromen> sigh
[05:14] <oskude> okie-homie, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17631
[05:14] <apokryphos> Dromen: you didn't install the deb, then.
[05:14] <Dromen> i did
[05:14] <bertu> 10x everybody!
[05:14] <okie-homie> oskude: thank you very much!
[05:14] <Dromen> lemme remove it then try again
[05:14] <apokryphos> Dromen: show me the last few lines (i.e. 10 ) of output from checkinstall, on the pastebin.
[05:14] <apokryphos> Dromen: wait, before you do that
[05:14] <apokryphos> Dromen: dpkg -l|grep kaffeine
[05:14] <frogzoo> cocox: repos should just work - apt connects to port 80, same as web
[05:14] <oskude> okie-homie, np
[05:14] <Ropechoborra> I got the music volume and the system sounds.. (eg. Gaim, xChat etc..) i want the music sound to be louder than the others... what can i do?
[05:15] <kakei> i installed lilo and now i want grub but when i do grub-install /dev/sda i get The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly. (im doing it as root)
[05:15] <florian> where can I find the splash-screens?
[05:15] <Dromen> ii  kaffeine-0.8.1                         0.8.1-1  Kaffeine 0.81
[05:15] <Dromen> is what it says apokryphos
[05:15] <GullyFoyle> anyone use rxvt-unicode? my repos show rxvt-unicode and rxvt-unicode-lite. what's the diff? nothing on the web page about -lite
[05:15] <apokryphos> Dromen: so it *is* installed.
[05:16] <apokryphos> Dromen: alt+f2 -> kaffeine .........are you *sure* it gives an error?
[05:16] <Dromen> so why cant i start it ?
[05:16] <Dromen>  kaffeine
[05:16] <Dromen> bash: kaffeine: command not found
[05:16] <apokryphos> Dromen: oh wait, I think you did the naming wrong
[05:16] <apokryphos> Dromen: alt+f2 -> kaffeine-0.8.1 ?
[05:16] <Dromen> hmm ok
[05:16] <apokryphos> Dromen: on checkinstall you probably left the version number in the name
[05:17] <Dromen> kaffeine-0.8.1
[05:17] <Dromen> bash: kaffeine-0.8.1: command not found
[05:17] <apokryphos> in theory checkinstall should remove it, but on rare occassions I've noticed it doesn't
[05:17] <apokryphos> Dromen: ok, pastebin the output of dpkg -L kaffeine-0.8.1
[05:17] <oskude> GullyFoyle, apt-cache show rxvt-unicode-lite says "This package contains the small version with only few extra features."
[05:17] <Fjodor_server> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17632
[05:17] <Dromen> !paste
[05:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:18] <Fjodor_server> stefg: What do I look for?
[05:18] <Dromen> apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17633
[05:18] <Ropechoborra> How do i install the Adobe FlashPlayer? (its a .bin file)
[05:18] <kakei> apokryphos: are u around? :p
[05:19] <Dromen> Ropechoborra: have you read the readme in the archive file
[05:19] <apokryphos> Dromen: remove that package from synaptic and install the deb that checkinstall generated, again.
[05:19] <apokryphos> kakei: yes
[05:19] <Dromen> tells you in there i think
[05:19] <Dromen> ok
[05:19] <stefg> Fjodor_server: nothing particular... just hardware or oddities
[05:19] <Ropechoborra> Dromen i cant open it.. its a .bin =(
[05:19] <kakei> apokryphos: hah do you remember me?
[05:19] <Breezy-CA> Hi - I'm preparing to upgrade to Dapper from Breezy. Update-manager is 0.42.2ubuntu12~breezy2 and I'm planning to follow the directions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades. Problems I've noticed so far: update-manager says that totem and wine cannot be updated. wine was locked; I unlocked it in Synaptic and ran the update-manager check again, but they're still shown as not upgradeable.  ... same result. Also, when
[05:19] <Breezy-CA> installing software, I've noticed that some gnome libs are shown as unconfigured. Am I okay going forward?
[05:19] <Dromen> Ropechoborra: try
[05:20] <Dromen> ./thebinaryname
[05:20] <Ropechoborra> how
[05:20] <apokryphos> kakei: your username, wouldn't remember your problem.
[05:20] <cocox> frogzoo, im getting an error message when i try to make an apt-cache search xxx and yesterday i could
[05:20] <kakei> apokryphos: grub....
[05:20] <Ropechoborra> Ty
[05:20] <Dromen> apokryphos: complete removal ?
[05:20] <apokryphos> kakei: ah yes.
[05:20] <apokryphos> Dromen: yes
[05:20] <Dromen> ok
[05:20] <Dromen> done
[05:21] <Dromen> run deb again ?
[05:21] <kakei> apokryphos: well actually i installed lilo and i want to install grub but i get The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[05:21] <Ropechoborra> Dromen sudo: ./jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin: command not found
[05:21] <apokryphos> kakei: your grub install is mucked, did you reinstall it?
[05:21] <stefg> Fjodor_server: this looks very standard, actually no reason why dapper shouldn't boot... except., the dapper kernels are a mess... miles of bug-reports ...
[05:21] <apokryphos> Dromen: yes, install that.
[05:21] <Ropechoborra> Ufff
[05:21] <Dromen> Ropechoborra: search synaptic
[05:21] <Ropechoborra> i580
[05:21] <Ropechoborra> Sorry
[05:22] <Fjodor_server> stefg: so I try an edgy kernel?
[05:22] <apokryphos> Dromen: so sudo dpkg -i kaffeinesomething.deb
[05:22] <Dromen> apokryphos: its installing with "package manager"
[05:22] <apokryphos> Dromen: if everything goes ok there, and alt+f2 -> kaffeine doesn't work, well...
[05:22] <Dromen> is that  ok?
[05:22] <apokryphos> that's fine
[05:22] <stefg> Fjodor_server: since youre setting up a server anyway, as i understand, i'd stick to breezy (just works :-/ )...
[05:22] <Dromen> kaffeine
[05:22] <Dromen> bash: kaffeine: command not found
[05:23] <Dromen> tried with version too
[05:23] <Dromen> still the same
[05:23] <kakei> already reinstalled apokryphosand the same
[05:23] <Fjodor_server> stefg: Ok. Another iso to down then. Would be nice to use dapper, though
[05:23] <Jemt> Is it possible to download the w32codecs as a .deb file ?
[05:23] <alex-weej> yes Jemt
[05:24] <Jemt> alex-weej: How, where ? :)
[05:24] <alex-weej> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:24] <Jemt> alex-weej: THanks
[05:24] <apokryphos> kakei: I have no idea why you played around in there with other grub files, bad things like this are bound to happen, and it's not easy at all to fix.
[05:24] <Psychobudgie> Jemt:  you could also use Automatix
[05:24] <stefg> Fjodor_server: install Breezy and queue up for your turn to lart the kernel-dev's for messing up dapper :-)
[05:24] <Psychobudgie> Jemt:  One of the many packages it installs
[05:24] <Fjodor_server> stefg: ok ;-)
[05:24] <Dromen> apokryphos: now what?
[05:24] <Breezy-CA> Hmm ... is it a bad idea to upgrade to Dapper from Breezy, then?
[05:24] <apokryphos> Dromen: alt+f2 -> kaffiene
[05:25] <apokryphos> *kaffeine
[05:25] <Dromen> tried
[05:25] <Dromen> same error
[05:25] <apokryphos> Breezy-CA: no
[05:25] <apokryphos> Breezy-CA: it's fine
[05:25] <Jemt> Psychobudgie: I'd rather not.
[05:25] <speedsix> Hi there, I'm having a problem with Dapper, for some reason Gnome fails to boot, it logs in, shows a background and cursor but doesn't go on to load Metacity with the splash screen?
[05:25] <stefg> Fjodor_server: and feel encouraged to leave a bug-report on launchpad. BTW, wht'll be the servers job?
[05:25] <Breezy-CA> t/y, apokryphos ... I've got a couple of worries, preparing for it, though.
[05:25] <apokryphos> Dromen: ok, remove the package again and do plain "sudo make install"
[05:25] <Dromen> apokryphos: ill try a deb off ubuntu forums
[05:25] <apokryphos> Dromen: this is a dirtier way to do it, but.. hey.
[05:26] <Dromen> apokryphos: that way doesnt work either
[05:26] <Phopsy> Hey, my microphone's not working on my  Terratec soundcard, any help would be appreciated.
[05:26] <Fjodor_server> stefg: just wifi router
[05:26] <apokryphos> Dromen: try it, if it doesn't work then go for the deb.
[05:26] <apokryphos> Breezy-CA: like?
[05:26] <reiki> is it possible (or adviseable) to create an i2c device file? I am trying to get temp sensors to work and sensors reports there are no i2c device files
[05:26] <apokryphos> Breezy-CA: just make sure you *fully follow the guide* if you're doing dist-upgrade
[05:26] <speedsix> Anyone got any ideas?
[05:26] <Kaja> Phopsy, chech out what alsa-project.org has to say about your card.
[05:26] <apokryphos> Breezy-CA: the only problem I've ever seen with upgrade is when people don't make sure ubuntu-desktop is installed first
[05:26] <Kaja> check*
[05:26] <Breezy-CA> apokryphos,  the first is that totem and wine are shown as not upgradable ... totem seems fine in Synaptic; wine was locked but I unlocked it ... but they're still not upgradable.
[05:27] <stefg> Fjodor_server: so if 2.6.12 support the hardware, avoid the pain with dapper and simply stick to breezy
[05:27] <Breezy-CA> I remember the ubuntu-desktop problem from the upgrade to Breezy ... that was not fun :)
[05:27] <apokryphos> Breezy-CA: so manually upgrade them after, easy enough.
[05:27] <Phopsy> Kaja: ALSA seems to be down...
[05:27] <Kaja> =o
[05:27] <speedsix> Any idea where I can begin looking to find out why Gnome won't load?
[05:27] <Fjodor_server> stefg: Ok. Thanks for your help
[05:27] <Kaja> Too bad =|
[05:27] <Phopsy> Kaja: Yep :D
[05:28] <Breezy-CA> apokryphos,  the other possible problem is that some of the gnome libs (which I built from Dapper sources, trying to resolve some dependencies for a pkg that I needed) are shown as unconfigured, when I try to install other software. So far, that hasn't seemed to hurt the other pkgs I've installed. Should I worry?
[05:28] <jrib> speedsix: check permissions on ~/.Xauthority and ~/.ICEauthority
[05:28] <stefg> Fjodor_server: np... and a breezy CD as a rescue system is never wasted bandwidth for having it downloaded :-)
[05:29] <Fjodor_server> stefg: Oki :-)
[05:29] <apokryphos> Breezy-CA: no idea what you mean by unconfigured
[05:29] <Ropechoborra> Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): How do i know where is it?
[05:29] <speedsix> jrib, will do
[05:29] <Ropechoborra> I got firefox
[05:30] <jrib> speedsix: make sure your user is owner and you have read and write permissions
[05:30] <speedsix> jrib I think you may be on to something, owned by root
[05:31] <jrib> speedsix: either delete them or just: sudo chown username:username ~/.{X,ICE}authority
[05:31] <Dromen> apokryphos: the deb requires the old kaffeine
[05:31] <Dromen> maybe it will update it for me
[05:32] <apokryphos> :/
[05:32] <oezguer> hi everbody , i have aMule, but i cant connect :( any server liste? help pls
[05:32] <Ropechoborra> oezguer did u set the download destination?
[05:32] <oezguer> oh no, i look it now
[05:33] <Languid> is there a way to turn off the security feature which forces you to enter a password to unlock the screen after so many minutes of idle time?
[05:33] <mrmojo> hi guys
[05:34] <mrmojo> anyone good with the passwd command?
[05:34] <jrib> Languid: system > preferences > screensaver
[05:34] <Languid> mrmojo, why, what do you need to do?
[05:34] <mrmojo> ie, could someone tell me a way to use it non-interactively by passing the password into the initial command?
[05:34] <mumbles> woo.
[05:35] <Languid> jrib, that's true, but im sorry i also meant after closing my laptop lid....the screen is told to go blank when it's closed, when i reopen it i have to enter my password.
[05:35] <AdamG> I did some repartitioning and moved my swap into an extended partition; now it's not detected. How can I mount it as swap?
[05:35] <oezguer> Ropechoborra: how can i set the download destination? my aMule ist german...    maybe i need  server liste to connect do i?
[05:35] <mrmojo> Languid, I'm basically hoping for something like passwd [username]  -p [password] 
[05:35] <jrib> Languid: not sure about that if turning it off in that dialog doesn't turn it off for the lid as well
[05:35] <Breezy-CA> apokryphos,  here's an example: I installed glabels  ... dpkg flags a dependency problem, says that nautilus "depends on libgnome2.0 (>=2.8.0); however: Package libgnome2.0 is not configured yet" ... that's one of several. But nautilus works, in fact everything seems to work.
[05:35] <Languid> mrmojo, try looking at the man page for passwd
[05:36] <Languid> jrib, well i have that option turned off (in the screensaver config), and it still asks me to enter my password when i close the lid
[05:36] <Phopsy> So, do you reckon it's possible to use the microphone from one soundcard and the output from another soundcard simultaneously?
[05:36] <Ropechoborra> oezguer in the emule settings.. did u said was in german?? =/
[05:36] <Ropechoborra> *say
[05:36] <oezguer> :)
[05:36] <apokryphos> Breezy-CA: is that a "warning"?
[05:36] <richard> Anyone got a guide to kernel patching? i want to go from 2.6.17.1 -> 2.6.17.4
[05:36] <apokryphos> Breezy-CA: if it's not an error, then don't worry about it.
[05:36] <oezguer> its automic being set in download destination, but server problem :(
[05:37] <oezguer> i mean  i need  server list oder web site to connect
[05:37] <Ropechoborra> Dont know then =(
[05:37] <Breezy-CA> apokryphos,  hasn't anyone warned you about ignoring warnings?   :D
[05:37] <Ropechoborra> Sorry
[05:37] <apokryphos> Breezy-CA: nah, warnings mean nothing; just look out for errors.
[05:37] <Breezy-CA> t/y, apokryphos :)
[05:37] <oezguer> Ropechoborra: thanx
[05:37] <Ropechoborra> i use KTorrent or Nicotine for mp3s
[05:37] <PuppiesOnAcid__> Does anyone have an article or something of Ubuntu performance on a MacBook Pro?
[05:37] <oezguer> Ropechoborra: i wanna download films
[05:38] <Ropechoborra> Use KTorrent or Azureus those r good (or bitttorrent)
[05:38] <oezguer> the server list scholud be in any websites to get them  for connecting
[05:38] <jrib> Languid: maybe /etc/acpi/lid.sh can get you started on your search
[05:38] <oezguer> oki thanx
[05:39] <Languid> jrib, that's a good place to look.  thanks, ill check it out, thanks :)
[05:39] <Dromen> apokryphos: that deb worked
[05:39] <ranpha> what is a good DC++ cleint?
[05:39] <Dromen> ty for ur help
[05:40] <tpgterror> Where can i find WINE to start it?
[05:40] <apokryphos> !wine
[05:40] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:40] <Tourinho> hello there
[05:40] <apokryphos> hi
[05:41] <Tourinho> how can I set the key index on wireless configuration? There is only place for passphrase key
[05:43] <Warbo> tpgterror: Just run the Windows program. There is no GUI WINE thing, only winecfg which you can use to reconfigure it
[05:43] <SimzI> How do I unmount a folder that I have mounted over the network?
[05:43] <tpgterror> warbo: ok
[05:45] <jvai> simzi right clik, unmount
[05:45] <Warbo> Does anyone know if there is a bin-fmt thing for WINE? In Fedora "./setup.exe" would launch WINE, but it doesn't in Debian/Ubuntu
[05:45] <jvai> it's on the desktop right/
[05:45] <tpgterror> warbo: it doesnt work... it doesnt give any error/message too
[05:45] <SimzI> The option doesn't come up jvai
[05:45] <SimzI> noah, it's in /home
[05:45] <SimzI> no*
[05:45] <jvai> o
[05:46] <Warbo> tpgterror: Double clicking should work, from a terminal "wine programname.exe" will launch it
[05:46] <ranpha> what is a good DC++ client?
[05:46] <ShadowLurker> when i try to install Easy Ubuntu it gives me an error that i need to update my lists
[05:46] <ShadowLurker> can someone tell me how to do that?
[05:46] <Warbo> ranpha: Have a look through the Networking section in Synaptic
[05:46] <ShadowLurker> i just updated to Dopple or whatever it is
[05:47] <ranpha> nah too lazy
[05:47] <tpgterror> warbo: yay it works, installing steam :D:D thnx!!
[05:47] <tibbe> anyone know when/if TeXLive will be available?
[05:48] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: Could you pastebin your file /etc/apt/sources.list please
[05:48] <Warbo> !pastebin
[05:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:48] <archetypo> this is lame, but is there a gnome gui tool for route config?
[05:48] <ShadowLurker> yea, one second
[05:49] <masterofallarts> hi
[05:49] <Warbo> hello
[05:49] <masterofallarts> look, l have some gtk2 apps, like gaim.
[05:49] <masterofallarts> but i dont want to use gnome
[05:49] <tagz77> Amaranth:can u help me with the wireless connection???
[05:49] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: I'm doing it now
[05:49] <masterofallarts> and so, no use of gnome settings daemon, either.
[05:49] <Dr4g> I'm using firefox... it works but the right google bar at the top... doesnt work when hittin enter
[05:49] <Dr4g> any suggestions ?
[05:49] <Warbo> masterofallarts: Use whatever DE you want and the apps will make sure they have whatever gtk libs they need
[05:50] <masterofallarts> now: how can I change gaim menu font size or titlebar font size?
[05:50] <jvai> simzi, i tried to mount a folder from online, but it mounted on my desktop, all i did was dragged it to the wastebasket, & it was gone
[05:50] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17636
[05:51] <jvai> it didnt break anything, & i'm on hoary
[05:51] <masterofallarts> I want to change gaim's font size independently of gnome-settings-daemon.
[05:51] <tagz77> can any1 help me connect my wireless connection???
[05:51] <dash`> I have a drive on my PC atm, formatted in NTFS, no OS on it or anything, but it tells me I don't have permission to access it, is there a way around this?
[05:52] <masterofallarts> I dont know, tagz77, whats up?
[05:52] <tagz77> i am getting no signal for my wlan0
[05:52] <Saxywolf> dash`, you try fdisk on it?
[05:52] <dash`> haven't yet, was hoping to vio wit first
[05:53] <dash`> *view it
[05:53] <Saxywolf> dash`: vio? anyhow, Linux can't write to NTFS
[05:53] <dr_willis> view what? if you formated it with ntfs - isentit empty now?
[05:53] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: You've upgraded to Dapper?
[05:53] <dr_willis> I think claification is needed.
[05:53] <dash`> it was formatted in NTFS on my old computer, which was windows
[05:53] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: Yes
[05:53] <dash`> it just had some music and games on it
[05:54] <Saxywolf> Linux can still read NTFS, so once mounted, Dash`, you should be able to see whats on it
[05:54] <dash`> I am newish to linux, so thats why I am asking
[05:54] <dr_willis> !ntfs
[05:54] <dash`> I don't know *how* to do things like that, more often than not
[05:54] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[05:54] <accumulator> !w32codecs
[05:54] <ubotu> w32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[05:54] <Saxywolf> go ahead and mount it, then you shuld be able to copy stuff off
[05:54] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: Well all of your sources are for Breezy (5.10) so you need to do in a terminal "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and change all of the "breezy"s to "dapper"s
[05:54] <dr_willis> dash`,  so you have linux installed yet?
[05:54] <dash`> yes
[05:54] <dash`> I am on Ubuntu atm
[05:55] <tibbe> anyone know when/if TeXLive will be available?
[05:55] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: okay
[05:55] <Dr4g> i fucking love ubuntu
[05:55] <Saxywolf> I was following these directions for JRE: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=211828
[05:55] <Saxywolf> but I get "E: Couldn't find package java-package"
[05:55] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: including comments?
[05:55] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: and version numbers
[05:55] <tagz77> i cant get a connection with my wireless pci card
[05:55] <dr_willis> dash`,  then you should be able to mount the ntfs drive and read/copy the files over to the linux partition.
[05:55] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: Not really, but if you uncomment them later you may have some trouble, so either change them or get rid of them altogether
[05:56] <tagz77> it is a dlink dwl-520
[05:56] <kbrooks> Dr4g: watch your language
[05:56] <dash`> IIRC, last time I tried that, it said it was already mounted
[05:56] <kbrooks> !coc
[05:56] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[05:56] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: The only bit you need to change is to replace "breezy" with "dapper", but you should get rid of the CD one (if you have a Dapper CD then you can add that later using the apt tools)
[05:57] <mumbles> sudo qrfdiska:
[05:57] <dr_willis> dash`,  it proberly was then. :P but it may got mounted as root. so only the root user could access it.
[05:57] <Kalm_> has anyone here succeeded in installing Java JRE on a PPC architecture?
[05:57] <Saxywolf> anyone know why I might get "E: Couldn't find package java-package" when trying to install the JRE?
[05:57] <dash`> atm it shows as /media/hdb1, but I can't open it
[05:57] <masterofallarts> tibbe: it is.
[05:57] <kbrooks> Saxywolf: link?
[05:57] <CuriosCat> Howdy all
[05:57] <dr_willis> try 'sudo ls -l /media/hdb1'
[05:57] <Warbo> Saxywolf: because the java packages are not called "java-package", try using Synaptic instead of the command line
[05:57] <Saxywolf> kbrooks, link to what?
[05:57] <CuriosCat> so, dapper drake is only letting me use 1024x768 on a display capable of 1680x1050
[05:58] <CuriosCat> how do I fix that? :P
[05:58] <dash`> that worked
[05:58] <jrib> !fixres > CuriosCat
[05:58] <dr_willis> dash`,  edit the fstab  and set it where a user can mount/unmount it. :P then
[05:58] <kbrooks> Saxywolf: the wiki page that mentioned java-package
[05:58] <dash`> I was trying things like that, but sudo cd doesn't work :P
[05:58] <Saxywolf> I was following these directions for JRE: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=211828
[05:58] <dash`> dr_willis :: fstab?
[05:58] <dr_willis> sudo cd - just cd's and exits
[05:58] <kbrooks> Saxywolf: *click*
[05:58] <dr_willis> dash`,  now ya get to learn the fun bits of how linux works.
[05:58] <dash`> yes I know
[05:58] <Warbo> Saxywolf: System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager. Search for java
[05:58] <dash`> that is why I am here
[05:58] <dr_willis> !mount
[05:58] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[05:59] <Dr4g> kbrooks: sorry dude.. i just got a bit over excited on how good ubuntu is
[05:59] <tagz77> Kalm_: : sudo apt-get install-java5-bin sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[05:59] <archetypo> http://pastie.caboo.se/3916 <----  what's the right route command to delete the 192.168.0.0 on eth1????
[06:00] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: so change everything on it that says Breezy to Dapper?  But not the version numbers?
[06:00] <Saxywolf> Warbo, nothing in Synaptic says JRE.
[06:00] <dr_willis> dash`,  may want to do some reading on the bot urls !ntfs !fstab and !mount and check the wiki/forums - they will explain it all to ya.  edit the /etc/fstab file with ' sudo gedit /etc/fstab  '  then check for that hdb1 line , now the exact optiosn/changes - im not sure.
[06:00] <Warbo> tagz77: "install java5-bin", not "install-java5-bin"
[06:00] <kbrooks> Saxywolf: add multiverse
[06:00] <dash`> dr_willis :: k, thanks
[06:00] <Shizboom> is there anyway to make a panel wider than 125 pixels?
[06:00] <masterofallarts> Dr4g: yeah, dapper is so ******* great, all the ****** ** concurrence just *****!
[06:00] <gnomefreak> install sun-java-bin ;)
[06:00] <CuriosCat> thanks jrib, trying those suggestions
[06:00] <tagz77> Kalm_:update-alternatives --config java
[06:00] <tagz77> hey im tryin to help
[06:01] <tagz77> i cant read my own writing
[06:01] <alnr> what is the best way to change ubuntu to boot only to console and allow to start x manually?
[06:01] <kbrooks> masterofallarts: what concurrence?
[06:01] <masterofallarts> kbrooks: xD
[06:02] <kbrooks> masterofallarts: answer my question :-)
[06:02] <judah> alnr: disable gdm from starting @ run level 2
[06:02] <doughboy> Does anyone know if there is a chatroom channel specifically for helping with programming questions?  The info would be a lot of help to me.
[06:02] <masterofallarts> first of all, we have ms.
[06:02] <SimzI> How do you choose which multimedia player an mp3 opens with by default
[06:02] <Kalm_> ok thank you ill try now
[06:02] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: Change anything that says Breezy Badger or Breezy to Dapper or Dapper what?
[06:03] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: The only lines that matter are the "deb" and "deb-src" ones. Get rid of the CDROM one (they have to be added with external tools)
[06:03] <masterofallarts> next, ms-ish linux derivates
[06:03] <alnr> judah: thanks
[06:03] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: Okay, I'll try
[06:03] <tagz77> ok any help me connect my wireless connection???please???
[06:03] <judah> alnr: surely
[06:03] <masterofallarts> admittedly, i know little about freaky distros like gentoo, it rips my brains out.
[06:03] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: So any line that starts with deb or deb-sry?
[06:04] <Saxywolf> kbrooks, add multiverse? there an easy way to do that with Synaptic?
[06:04] <masterofallarts> tagz77: just tell us a little more, specific info triggers more feedback in general.
[06:04] <ardchoille> Is it safe to put "sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" in a bash script and use that instead of typing all of that in each time?
[06:04] <masterofallarts> Saxywolf: there a button in synaptic to do this.
[06:04] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: Yes. The "deb" or "deb-src" tells it to get binary or source packages, the address tells it where to get them from and everything after is the version and sections. You need to change the versions from breezy to dapper
[06:05] <tagz77> well it has my wlan0, but when i activate it i get nothing...and in the network monitor i have no signal...
[06:05] <masterofallarts> r u sure the card is properly detected?
[06:05] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: yes but i think i would do clean or autoclean as a alias instead of script (personall prefference)
[06:05] <tagz77> i dont no for sure, i is a noob
[06:06] <tpgterror> somebody knows where the C:program files is in Linux?
[06:06] <tpgterror> because i just installed Steam with WINE but i dont know where the map is
[06:06] <dash`> k, so I have looked through this disk, and retrieved everything I wanted, now what should I do to it to make it so any user can read/write to it?
[06:06] <xolot3> is there a program that will display ANY detected input (ie infrared controls)?
[06:06] <Azhi_Dahaka> hi
[06:06] <Warbo> tpgterror: (your home folder)/.wine/drive_c/Program Files
[06:06] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: ok, I like to follow advice of folks like you. Is there a tutorial or something that would teach me how to do that?
[06:06] <dr_willis> tpgterror,  wine makes its own 'fake' windows directory in the users home dir.
[06:06] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: I think I did it
[06:06] <dr_willis> tpgterror,  like .wine or .fake_windows or sililer.
[06:06] <Saxywolf> is the "multuverse" part of the "Backports"?
[06:07] <Azhi_Dahaka> Is there a way to make ubuntu looks exactly like windows?
[06:07] <dr_willis> tpgterror,  use 'ls -R | less ' and see what ya can see
[06:07] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: Now how do I install it?
[06:07] <xolot3> is there a program that will display ANY detected input (ie infrared controls)?
[06:07] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: Save the file and reload your package lists (either "Reload" in Syanptic or "sudo apt-get update" on command line)
[06:07] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: I'm in the easyubuntu folder
[06:07] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: You don't install EasyUbuntu, you just run it from where it is
[06:07] <ShadowLurker> and how do i run it?
[06:08] <Warbo> Azhi_Dahaka: Look on art.gnome.org and gnome-look.org for themes
[06:08] <ShadowLurker> nvm
[06:08] <ShadowLurker> i got it
[06:08] <ShadowLurker> i think...
[06:08] <xolot3> how can i determine if my infrared controls are detected?
[06:09] <Warbo> Azhi_Dahaka: There is a Windows-XP-ish theme in the XFCE themes packages in Ubuntu called XFCE-Redmond-XP as well
[06:09] <kbrooks> ardchoille: its pperfectly safe to  do that in a bash script
[06:09] <ardchoille> kbrooks: Thank you :)
[06:10] <Azhi_Dahaka> and it looks exactly like windows?
[06:10] <Saxywolf> I added "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Backports", but I still don't see a JRE package...
[06:10] <tpgterror> dr_willis: how do i come in that folder then? program files?
[06:10] <Azhi_Dahaka> i need to make Ubuntu exactly like windows... my dad would freak out if he finds out that his machine is not a windows box
[06:10] <dr_willis> Azhi_Dahaka,  ive seen some window mnagers that try to do that.. and  it normally sucks. IceWM can look close
[06:11] <Warbo> Azhi_Dahaka: The XFCE one doesn't look exactly like Windows, but there are a few on art.gnome.org which do. You can install the "gnome-art" package to get a nice tool which automatically downloads and installs them for you
[06:11] <dr_willis> tpgterror,  Huh? you mean how to you 'cd' to that folder?
[06:11] <bluefoxicy> FUCK.
[06:11] <Azhi_Dahaka> alright
[06:11] <adamant1988> Azhi_Dahaka, if your dad is going to get mad about that you better keep him from ever trying to install software again.
[06:11] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: How do I run Easy Ubuntu?
[06:11] <Warbo> Azhi_Dahaka: If you want a 98-style then you can get it pretty much exact. For an XP style there are a few which come very close
[06:12] <Azhi_Dahaka> a 2k could be ok
[06:12] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: There are files ending in .py yes? Run the main easyubuntu one in a terminal with "pyhton filename.py" (I forget the exact name)
[06:12] <dr_willis> !easyubuntu
[06:12] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[06:12] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: thanks
[06:12] <masterofallarts> tagz77: lets see. what do you do to see that wlan has no conn?
[06:12] <tpgterror> dr_willis: i instaleld STEAM now with WINE, but i want to start it... how
[06:13] <tagz77> i added network monitor to my panel
[06:13] <xolot3> is there a program that will display ANY detected input (ie infrared controls)?
[06:13] <dr_willis> tpgterror,  find the steam.exe or whatever its called and 'wine /path/to/steamwhatever.exe' would be my guess
[06:13] <tagz77> and type in wlan0 and it has no signal
[06:13] <masterofallarts> what did you do in system/administration/network?
[06:14] <dash`> how should I reformat this drive to work best?
[06:14] <masterofallarts> is the corresponding device active?
[06:14] <tagz77> for wlan, i configured the ssid and the wep password and then tried to activate it
[06:15] <Warbo> Azhi_Dahaka: www.xpde.com
[06:15] <masterofallarts> are you sure ssid and pw are entered correctly?
[06:16] <naknomik> I have installed ubuntu 6.06, with GNOME as default desktop. Is it possible to also install KDE? I want to try out KDE. Or I have to install Kubuntu now?
[06:16] <masterofallarts> what happened when you tried to activate wlan?
[06:16] <tagz77> yeah, i went into the router and disabled wep just to make sure
[06:16] <webben> naknomik: yes it is possible
[06:16] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: When I tried to run the program, I got the following error:
[06:16] <ShadowLurker> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[06:16] <naknomik> webben: how?
[06:16] <Warbo> naknomik: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[06:16] <tagz77> it sed it was active but when opening firefox i got nothing
[06:17] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: Close any Synaptic, Apt, Aptitude, Adept or whatever windows
[06:17] <masterofallarts> as for now, the card is said to be active?
[06:17] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: Thanks, I had just opened Update Manager
[06:17] <Saxywolf> anyone know where I can get "java-package" ?
[06:17] <Warbo> !java
[06:17] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:17] <tagz77> i believe so
[06:18] <Warbo> !multiverse
[06:18] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:18] <masterofallarts> just look in the network settings.
[06:18] <arnieboy> any idea where the startup programs are stored in dapper
[06:18] <tagz77> wlan0 is not active
[06:18] <Warbo> arnieboy: /etc/init.d
[06:18] <arnieboy> it used to be in a file called session-manual in breezy
[06:19] <masterofallarts> what happens when u try to activate it?
[06:19] <arnieboy> naa.. the ones which the user adds to system --> prefs--> sessions --> startup progs
[06:19] <Warbo> arnieboy: Ah, the GNOME login ones? If they are not in ~/.gnome2 then I don't know
[06:19] <Azhi_Dahaka> nice...
[06:19] <arnieboy> yeah well they should be in .gnome2
[06:19] <Azhi_Dahaka> but what about apps that use qt?
[06:19] <arnieboy> but i cant find them any longer
[06:20] <Warbo> Azhi_Dahaka: www.kde-look.org?
[06:20] <tagz77> it scans to activate, and then it sez active but still no connection
[06:20] <naknomik> Wow! I love that. The simplicity of Ubuntu amazes me.
[06:20] <Warbo> (oops, no question mark :) )
[06:20] <jrib> arnieboy: ~/.gnome2/session
[06:20] <masterofallarts> the ssid is case sensitive.
[06:20] <tagz77> this i know
[06:21] <jrib> arnieboy: wait no that doesn't seem to work... never mind
[06:21] <rixxon> can i set gvim as the default editor for all text/source files?
[06:21] <arnieboy> yeah thats not it jrib
[06:21] <rixxon> i.e. every file normally opened with gedit
[06:21] <Warbo> Azhi_Dahaka: Install the "kcontrol" program to mess around with QT themes and colours and stuff (in QT a theme (or "style") changes the look of the buttons and stuff, whilst you can set the clolours any way you want)
[06:21] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: It keeps saying "Fix broken packages first" what do I do?
[06:22] <barktpolar> Hello Room :)
[06:22] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: "sudo apt-get -f install"
[06:22] <prmigsu> Hi all
[06:22] <barktpolar> Anyone use KDE apps in Buntu
[06:22] <ShadowLurker> ok
[06:22] <masterofallarts> ok, sorry, taking a pizza now. cu later
[06:22] <jrib> arnieboy: how about ~/.config/autostart/
[06:22] <Azhi_Dahaka> ok
[06:23] <Azhi_Dahaka> which one is lighter gnome or kde>
[06:23] <Warbo> Azhi_Dahaka: Neither :)
[06:23] <stefg> Azhi_Dahaka: not a simple question... it depends
[06:23] <Warbo> KDE is probably more Windows-like (cue the replies...)
[06:23] <prmigsu> I need some help. I whant to get SUN JAVA installed on my ubuntu 6.06. But it is not under application -> add/remove.. how do i do then to install it?
[06:24] <arnieboy> aahh perfect!!!! thanks a lot jrib
[06:24] <Warbo> !multiverse
[06:24] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:24] <jrib> !java > prmigsu
[06:24] <tagz77>  sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[06:24] <Warbo> prmigsu: You need to enable multiverse, then install sun-java5-bin
[06:24] <stefg> Azhi_Dahaka: you are aware there's Xubuntu? That's lite... 800Mhz/192MB and a system fast as lightning
[06:24] <Azhi_Dahaka> what set of widgets do firefox and openoffice use?
[06:24] <Warbo> GTK
[06:25] <dash`> any ideas why I can no longer lock my computer?
[06:25] <Warbo> I think openoffice uses it's own unless you install openoffice-gnome package or something
[06:25] <stefg> lost the key?
[06:25] <dash`> like the ctrl-alt-L command
[06:25] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: I got it again
[06:25] <Azhi_Dahaka> ok... so, xfce + that redmond style would be faster that kde + redmond style?
[06:25] <eexpress> hi, if anyone knows how to find the label of an FAT32 partition.
[06:25] <stefg> !java > prmigsu
[06:25] <dash`> or System -> Lock Screen
[06:25] <Warbo> dash`: Do you have a screensaver daemon running? ("xscreensaver -no-splash")
[06:26] <eexpress> ...
[06:26] <Warbo> Azhi_Dahaka: Yes
[06:26] <eexpress> ...
[06:26] <eexpress> hi, if anyone knows how to find the label of an FAT32 partition.
[06:26] <dash`> I don't think so?
[06:26] <jrib> !repeat > eexpress
[06:26] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: you ROCK! Folks like you are the reason folks like me love Ubuntu :)
[06:26] <ShadowLurker> Could not apply changes!
[06:26] <ShadowLurker> Fix broken packages first.
[06:26] <akr0> gnom and kde are  mostly different in licence policy? cause i just can't make a choice..using gnome cause i used it under debian and got used to it
[06:26] <ShadowLurker> I keep getting that error
[06:26] <randomfactor> anyone running ubuntu under parallel on a macbook pro as I need help
[06:27] <eexpress> too rapid... i thought maybe none can saw my message.
[06:27] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: Have you actaully upgraded yet?
[06:27] <naknomik> Is there a KDE equivalent to 'rhythmbox'?
[06:27] <Warbo> Amarok
[06:27] <userundefine> eexpress, everyone saw it.
[06:27] <xolot3> how can i determine if my infrared remote is detected?
[06:27] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: To 6.06?  Yea, the day before yesterday!
[06:27] <jrib> naknomik: definitely try amarok
[06:27] <eexpress> but message roll too fast
[06:27] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: And now everything is orange!  :-P
[06:27] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: OK, well "sudo apt-get -f install" should fix broken packages
[06:28] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: I did that
[06:28] <barktpolar> Hey racefire
[06:28] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: What happened?
[06:28] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: And everything was 0 except for 3 things not upgraded
[06:28] <barktpolar> Di dyou get your prob fix
[06:28] <eexpress> If anyone knows how to find the label of an FAT32 partition. jrib
[06:28] <ShadowLurker> i'll do it again
[06:28] <ShadowLurker> and copy and paste message
[06:28] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: Try "sudo aptitude" and press "b" to find any broken packages
[06:28] <randomfactor> Ubuntu and Parallels anyone
[06:28] <randomfactor> ?
[06:28] <eexpress> too many people
[06:29] <jrib> !support > eexpress
[06:29] <akr0> eexpress :  fdisk?
[06:29] <eexpress> no , fdisk can not find.
[06:29] <dr_willis> fdisk must be ran by root or su. it should be found.
[06:29] <akr0> try gparted and qtparted ...
[06:30] <akr0> but i have issues with both...
[06:30] <eexpress> dr_willis: really? i go .....
[06:30] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: I did that and I don't understand what's here, and nothing happens when I press b
[06:30] <eexpress> gparted, i had try.
[06:30] <randomfactor> when I boot Ubuntu it hangs at hardware drivers an then fails can anyone help out with thi?s
[06:30] <kbrooks> I need some handiwork...
[06:30] <barktpolar> I heard of a way to install Windows XP without the disk after you installed Ubuntu, does taht rule apply after erasing windows
[06:31] <dr_willis> barktpolar,  huh?
[06:31] <dr_willis> you can install xp after installing linux.. but ya may hafve to deal with windows over writing the boot loader
[06:31] <tdn> How do I get Opera installed? I've heard that there is an official source that I can add from opera.com, but I can't find it.
[06:31] <eexpress> akr0: sudo fdisk /dev/sda2, i had done this. but how i can do....
[06:31] <ShadowLurker> dr_willis: He wants to have two O/S on his computer, the other should be XP and he doesn't have the disk
[06:31] <dr_willis> !opera
[06:31] <ubotu> An advanced and free (only as in price) Web browser. Howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser - Latest Ubuntu packages always at: http://opera.com/download
[06:31] <ShadowLurker> dr_willis: all he has is linux
[06:32] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: Well you musn't have any broken packages at the moment, but running EasyUbuntu must cause some to break
[06:32] <dr_willis> ShadowLurker,  good for him! :P
[06:32] <tpgterror> all i have is linux here too :/
[06:32] <eexpress> dr_willis:
[06:32] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: so...?
[06:32] <tpgterror> question, what can i do ? :P
[06:32] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: Can you get on my computer and try to fix it?
[06:32] <dr_willis> eexpress,  try fdisk -l and see if it tells the lables. Ive rarely ever messed with volume lavbles
[06:32] <Scuzz_Fuddly> hi all, I am wondering how do I get write permissions to change a file? like I am needing to blacklist a driver.
[06:33] <barktpolar> Yeah Shadow, I seen in the wiki the one time about WIndows leaving a installer after you erased the HDD and installing Ubuntu
[06:33] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: Isn't there some program that will do that?
[06:33] <ShadowLurker> barktpolar: I wasn't the one asking the question
[06:33] <monomaniacpat> how can you view and edit .pak files in ubuntu? What programs are there for it?
[06:33] <barktpolar> I kNow
[06:33] <kevinz> what is the difference between "https://help.ubuntu.com/community" and "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/"?
[06:33] <barktpolar> BRB\
[06:33] <dr_willis> monomaniacpat,  you mean Quake Pak files?
[06:33] <eexpress> dr_willis: i want paste the info to u,.
[06:34] <tdn> dr_willis, thanks.
[06:34] <monomaniacpat> dr_willis: like that, but for half-life
[06:34] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: Try commenting the Penguin Liberation Front source (the one with "/plf" in it) and running "apt-get dist-upgrade" to get the very latest of everything and try EasyUbuntu again
[06:34] <_Kalm> i use linux primarely... tho im not that good with it :-D
[06:34] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: So how do I do that?
[06:34] <eexpress> sad. not private message. dr_willis
[06:34] <dr_willis> monomaniacpat,  i recall seveal  halflife tools for linux.
[06:35] <_Kalm> once i get more powerful pc ill have Xp and Ubuntu on it...
[06:35] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then put a "#" at the beginning of the line
[06:35] <stefg> PLF seems offline lately
[06:35] <monomaniacpat> dr_willis: any ideas about a pak editor?
[06:35] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: The beginning of which line?
[06:36] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: The first one?
[06:36] <dr_willis> monomaniacpat,  google is our friend. :P
[06:36] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: I think it is the bottom one. The one which is not ubuntu.com
[06:36] <eexpress> This doesn't look like a partition table
[06:36] <eexpress> Probably you selected the wrong device.
[06:36] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: Just one or two?
[06:36] <euclid_888> Hi. I just loaded Ubuntu for a home i386 computer. However I can not connect to the internet through my router with it. The router is set for DHCP and Ubuntu gets the right DNS and hostname from it, and I can ping it. However, I can't connect to the WWW setup page at 192.168.1.1 with it, nor access the internet. Can someone please help me out? The router is linksys.
[06:36] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: Just on #
[06:37] <Assen> Hi all, I came here to seek a little bit of support about setting up a network card in edubuntu. If anyone as some time to spare I would appreciate it!!!
[06:37] <ShadowLurker> deb http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/freecontrib/ dapper free non-free
[06:37] <ShadowLurker> deb-src http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/freecontrib/ dapper free non-free
[06:37] <ShadowLurker> ok, so should i put a # in front of the bottom one?
[06:37] <akr0> nope fdisk -l just lists the partitions but nolabels
[06:37] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: Both of those
[06:37] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: Okay
[06:37] <ShadowLurker> and now...?
[06:37] <akr0> actually i think if neither qtparter nor gparted show anything there are no labels
[06:38] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: "sudo apt-get update" "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" then try again
[06:38] <barktpolar> Back
[06:38] <lophyte> euclid_888: you tried pinging the router from your Ubuntu PC?
[06:38] <the-ice> anybody know any good bandwith meter 4 ubuntu
[06:38] <euclid_888> lophyte, yes. The ping was successful when I pinged the router at 192.168.1.1.
[06:39] <jirc> i cant think where else to ask on irc as this is the main place i know, I have buggered up GRUB and need to get back into windows, how can i do this so i can back up thigns then reinstall?
[06:39] <Warbo> euclid_888: Maybe you can telnet into it
[06:39] <lophyte> a linksys router?
[06:39] <euclid_888> Warbo, nope.
[06:39] <lophyte> I doubt it
[06:39] <akr0> then setup the network :  sudo ifconfig wlan0 <IP> up
[06:39] <nanomad> euclid_888, try to telnet port 80
[06:39] <euclid_888> What is strange is that linux distros give the same problem, but not Win2k. So I dont know if its my router.
[06:39] <jirc> will the repair function on windows boot disk achieve me getting back into windows?
[06:40] <ShadowLurker> Trust, she fricken hate's me, lalalala~
[06:40] <euclid_888> nanomad, okay, I will go and telnet to it. brb.
[06:40] <ShadowLurker> I lub that song
[06:40] <ShadowLurker> :P
[06:40] <euclid_888> IT didnt work last time though.
[06:40] <Warbo> !offtopic
[06:40] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:40] <nanomad> euclid_888, if it connects, type Ctrl+C
[06:40] <speedsix> Hi, I have installed apache2 but the install had problems and I deleted the /etc/apache2 dir. Reinstalling the package does not recreate any of the conf files??
[06:40] <Warbo> jirc: Try reinstallign GRUB from a livecd (I find Windows boot faster with GRUB installed anyway)
[06:41] <akr0> get into network...down thenetwork and set it up...my cardsomehow does only work when i initiate it manually via iwconfig
[06:41] <Warbo> speedsix: Purge it then reinstall
[06:41] <monomaniacpat> what's the best ftp server for ubuntu?
[06:41] <Solarion> besides, if you let Windows do it, won't it make linux inaccessible again?
[06:41] <tdn> How do I get all those non-free video and sound codecs installed? I have heard of a package called w32codecs. Is this what I need?
[06:41] <SonicChao> !ftp
  FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[06:41] <Warbo> !restricted
[06:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:41] <tdn> monomaniacpat, pure-ftpd, imho.
[06:41] <ShadowLurker> !easyubuntu
[06:41] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[06:41] <Solarion> tdn: multiverse is your friend.  :)
[06:41] <ShadowLurker> tdn: you want easy ubuntu
[06:41] <jirc> warbo, hmmm im not sure thats possible, I just want to boot back into windows as it says grub error 16
[06:42] <tdn> Solarion, I already have multiverse in my sources.list.
[06:42] <_Kalm> ive got a computer in my lan with a shared folder full of MP3s.. in Windows Media Player you could connect to tha "library" to play thos files,but can you do that in Ubuntu?
[06:42] <Warbo> jirc: Have you completely wiped you Linux?
[06:42] <ShadowLurker> Warbo:
[06:42] <ShadowLurker> same error
[06:42] <speedsix> Warbo, how do I reinstall via apt-get?
[06:42] <Solarion> _Kalm: Rhythmbox, banshee, and others
[06:42] <tdn> ShadowLurker, hmm... no. I don't think so. I would like to know how to install it the correct way. I don't want some script to bork my system.
[06:42] <Solarion> tdn: win32codecs
[06:42] <fyrestrtr> _Kalm: what os is it running?
[06:42] <euclid_888> nanomad, I used "telnet 192.168.1.1:80" and then it seemed to connect. Nothing was printed on the screen, but I could type things and the screen would scroll. When I telneted to another port, I recived that it could not connect. So something happened. How should I proceed?
[06:42] <speedsix> Warbo, just a regular apt-get install?
[06:43] <Solarion> tdn: actually, I don't think those are even in metaverse or whatever
[06:43] <Warbo> speedsix: "sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2" "sudo apt-get install apache2"
[06:43] <tdn> Solarion, apt-cache search win32codecs gives nothing.
[06:43] <_Kalm> How do you do it in rhytmbox? i tried but its not able to do it...
[06:43] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: but if it helps, i get an error that some of the items have already been installed and that they have been grayed out
[06:43] <Solarion> tdn: now that I think about it, I think I copied it over from my gentoo box
[06:43] <Cryptid> What all plugins will i need to turn my Ubuntu into a complete movie station that can play all video formats,,,, with proper audio
[06:43] <_Kalm> the other pcs got Windows XP
[06:43] <tdn> Solarion, hmm... Ok.
[06:43] <Solarion> tdn: otherwise, you will have to look around for another repo; they're available from a google search
[06:43] <archetypo> kaot you around?
[06:43] <dr_willis> Cryptid,  'all' just isent going to happen.. but ya can get most. :P
[06:43] <Solarion> tdn: but these are very unofficial, hence why I just copied them from my gentoo install.
[06:43] <Warbo> ShadowLurker: Seems like EasyUbuntu isn't working. Just try to do whatever you want from it manually. What did you want it to get for you?
[06:43] <speedsix> Warbo, didn't recreate any of the config files in /etc/
[06:44] <prmigsu> where do i
[06:44] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: w32codecs
[06:44] <fyrestrtr> euclid_888: you should try telnet 192.168.1.1 80
[06:44] <prmigsu> where do I enable MULTIVERSE?
[06:44] <Warbo> !w32codecs
[06:44] <ubotu> w32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[06:44] <Cryptid> dr_willis, ok i pasically need .avi support so what all will i need
[06:44] <ShadowLurker> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[06:44] <ShadowLurker> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages)
[06:44] <euclid_888> fyrestrtr, I did that.. with the colon though
[06:44] <fyrestrtr> !repositories > prmigsu
[06:44] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: I might just get Solaris
[06:44] <prmigsu> ok thx
[06:44] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: Ubuntu doesn't like me
[06:44] <fyrestrtr> euclid_888: that's my point, telnet expects [address]  [port]  not [address] :[port] 
[06:44] <akr0> euclid_888 :   goto network in ubuntu menu and deactivate the device
[06:44] <tdn> Solarion, yeah... I would like to avoid some unknown sources... Thats why I ask for advice in here. I would like to know what people in here does... But maybe most people just use easy ubuntu?
[06:44] <dr_willis> Cryptid,  .avi support means.. well little.. since a .avi can be any of  several Dozen if not hunderd codecs.
[06:44] <alex-weej> euclid_888: you need it without the colon :P colon is URI syntax for port number
[06:44] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: I have found that out the hard way
[06:44] <monomaniacpat> tdn: I think you misunderstood me, all I want is a program to access ftp servers to upload/download... pure says something about opening a server?
[06:44] <euclid_888> OKay.. brb
[06:45] <Solarion> tdn: the short-term soln is to find 'em someplace.
[06:45] <Warbo> speedsix: There is a special option that you can give to dpkg which COMPLETELY reinstalls a package, but I forgot what it is. I got it from #debian (but don't tell them you are using Ubuntu :) )
[06:45] <dr_willis> Cryptid,  you just need to have all the codecs installed properly for your players and hope your .avi are not somthing really weird
[06:45] <Solarion> tdn: the long-term solution is for people to act like customers and stop acting like consumers.  :)
[06:45] <howe0001> what apt source can I use to get the Dapper kernel 2.6.17?
[06:45] <Cryptid> dr_willis, i cat find w32codecs in syaptic... where do i get it from
[06:45] <tdn> monomaniacpat, I thought you wanted an FTP server. If you just need a client I prefer wget/wput for CLI and gftp for X.
[06:45] <speedsix> Warbo, I see thanks for the help, I'll have a look
[06:45] <fyrestrtr> !restrictedformats > Cryptid
[06:45] <ShadowLurker> Warbo: Actually, I was just able to get the win32codecs, I just didn't get anything else, that's what I did
[06:46] <dr_willis> Cryptid,  i always get it from the mplayer homepage
[06:46] <dr_willis> !w32codecs
[06:46] <ubotu> w32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[06:46] <tdn> Solarion, what do you mean?
[06:46] <euclid_888> fyrestrtr, The Telnet failed to connect. So I can ping the router, but not telnet. What should I try next?
[06:46] <monomaniacpat> tdn: Sorry, I used the wrong word, I meant client
[06:46] <fyrestrtr> euclid_888: if telnet failed to connect, means the web server is down on the router.
[06:46] <ShadowLurker> Yaay!  I got the win32codecs!
[06:46] <jirc> warbo sorry, if i just reinstall linux then grub will be rienstalled and find the proper place of windows again and should be sorted? dont mind losing linux data
[06:47] <SurfnKid> once again
[06:47] <fyrestrtr> euclid_888: it might have crashed, just reset it.
[06:47] <tdn> monomaniacpat, try gftp.
[06:47] <akr0> no it doesnt ..not every router has a shelld running
[06:47] <tagz77> i need help still with this damn wireless connection....
[06:47] <euclid_888> fyrestrtr, I'm using the router to chat with you from a Win XP box now.
[06:47] <euclid_888> fyrestrtr, I can connect to the WWW setup interface from this computer right now.
[06:47] <fyrestrtr> can you browse it from windows? http://192.168.1.1
[06:47] <euclid_888> Yup
[06:48] <fyrestrtr> euclid_888: how is the router handing out addresses? DHCP?
[06:48] <euclid_888> yes.
[06:48] <fyrestrtr> euclid_888: your ubuntu box is getting a dhcp address?
[06:48] <euclid_888> It used to use static.. I switched to DHCP to try to get it to work.
[06:48] <Cryptid> dr_willis, what all formats will reallplayer10 play????
[06:48] <archetypo> http://pastie.caboo.se/3922    can someone look at this?  can i get rid of the eth0 192.168.0.0 route so that only eth1 is used?  i have a static route to "mini" through eth0 and everything else i want to go through eth1.  but when i ping out, both interfaces are being used
[06:48] <fyrestrtr> euclid_888: did it fetch an ip address?
[06:48] <euclid_888> fyrestrtr, It gets a host name, I'm not sure how to check IP address.
[06:49] <akr0> euclid_888 : try sudo dhclient wlan0                  (or wlan1,eth1)
[06:49] <dr_willis> Cryptid,  no clue.. i avoide that like the plague
[06:49] <fyrestrtr> euclid_888: type ifconfig at a command prompt
[06:49] <euclid_888> okay.. brb
[06:49] <ubuntu01> hello all
[06:49] <Saxywolf> ok, I added "multiverse" but i still can't find the JRE package...
[06:49] <Draconicus> How good is support for wireless USB adapters?
[06:49] <fyrestrtr> Saxywolf: did you do a apt-get update ?
[06:50] <Saxywolf> does Synaptic not automatically do that?
[06:50] <Ropechoborra> How do i open an executable file??
[06:50] <fyrestrtr> Saxywolf: no, click on refresh
[06:50] <fyrestrtr> Ropechoborra: open it, or run it?
[06:50] <Ropechoborra> Run
[06:50] <Ropechoborra> Sorry
[06:50] <prmigsu> what APT channels should i put in to be able to install SUN-java-05?
[06:50] <dr_willis> !java
[06:50] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:50] <akr0> DONT get a usb wireles.....you can use it with ndiswrapper but crappy
[06:50] <fyrestrtr> Ropechoborra: double click usually works.
[06:50] <Saxywolf> fyrestrtr: yea, I hit refresh. To add multiverse I even had to edit sources.list
[06:51] <Ropechoborra> Nothing happends =(
[06:51] <ubuntu01> i have a question....i have a c and d(extended) drives(ntfs)....i want to install ubuntu to c: but i need/want to keep my data's on d:.is this possible? i dont have swap right now....
[06:51] <Saxywolf> dunno if I added the source I need tho
[06:51] <lophyte> prmigsu: universe
[06:51] <fyrestrtr> Saxywolf: either you edit sources.list, or you enable it from synaptic, but don't do it in both places :)
[06:51] <lophyte> prmigsu: er, sorry, multiverse
[06:51] <prmigsu> should i in the APT line write multiverse??
[06:51] <lophyte> !repo
[06:51] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:51] <Draconicus> akr0: It's an iMac. I don't have much of a choice unless you can find me a receiver that converts to ethernet.
[06:52] <Saxywolf> but "multiverse" only showed up under "Backports" in the Synaptic list
[06:52] <akr0> you can't packet inject with most cards but with usb youl be lucky to get it working good....
[06:52] <lophyte> prmigsu: they're already listed in the sources.list file.. you just have to uncomment them
[06:52] <Saxywolf> oh, i see... you can double click onthe item in the Synaptic list...
[06:52] <euclid_888> fyrestrtr, It recived an IP from DHCP, 192.168.1.100
[06:52] <Ropechoborra> fyrestrt1 is there a command to run it?
[06:52] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu01: sure, that's not a problem. Just choose the first partition when installing, it will not touch d:
[06:52] <the-ice> anybody know any good bandwith meter 4 ubuntu?
[06:53] <akr0> Draconicus : well i've been using a netgear WPN111 with the windowsdriver under ndiswrapper ..but you can't do that much ...surfing is okay
[06:53] <fyrestrtr> euclid_888: can you ping the windows machine?
[06:53] <euclid_888> nope
[06:53] <Draconicus> akr0: That's all I need for my great grandmother. :P
[06:53] <fyrestrtr> euclid_888: are you on wireless perchance?
[06:53] <cheatersrealm> anyone have a good howto on getting airport express (bcm43xx) to work?  I try to modprobe bcm43xx but then I get no wireless devices for ifconfig
[06:53] <fyrestrtr> !bcm43xx
[06:53] <ubotu> wifi is Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[06:54] <fyrestrtr> cheatersrealm: ^
[06:54] <akr0> euclid_888 : sudo ifdown -a       then sudo ifconfig wlan0 inet up              worked for me at that point
[06:54] <speedsix> well I'm completely stuck trying to reinstall apache's config files, didn't expect it to be a problem
[06:54] <ubuntu01> fyrestrtr : and it will mount this ntfs (d:) partition automaticaly or i need to mount it?
[06:54] <ardchoille> what's the diff between hard and symbolic links?
[06:54] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu01: I think it will mount it read only by default, but I am not sure. ITs easy to mount it later on though.
[06:55] <euclid_888> fyrestrtr, Nope. Both are BFSR41 Linsys routers that are used. One router connected to the cable modem, one router uses switch mode to the first router. The computer that works is going through both routers, the one I want to use will just use the first one. The pattern worked fine for years now using windows. So it's not hardware I dont think. It's something that linux does differently than windows.
[06:55] <fyrestrtr> ardchoille: one is, what happens to the linked file when you delete the link.
[06:55] <euclid_888> akr0, I will try that soon.
[06:55] <euclid_888> ty
  Is it a file so i should use Vi to open it or is it in synaptic?
[06:55] <cheatersrealm> fyrestrtr: thanks
[06:55] <lophyte> prmigsu: its a file.. /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:55] <Cryptid> Does Dapper Come with all Media Codecs Pre-Installed????
[06:55] <lophyte> Cryptid: no
[06:56] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: I am thinking that would be a hard link
[06:56] <Cryptid> lophyte, not even mp3
[06:56] <Saxywolf> is there a way to set the "default" view in the file manager?
[06:56] <fyrestrtr> euclid_888: hrmm, tracepath 192.168.1.1 -- what does that give you?
[06:56] <lophyte> Cryptid: nope
[06:56] <lophyte> !restricted
[06:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:56] <SurfnKid> linux sucks
[06:56] <lophyte> Cryptid: ^
[06:56] <prmigsu> ok, and i should uncoment something or what?
[06:56] <euclid_888> fyrestrtr, have to run back downstairs to check. brb.
[06:56] <lophyte> prmigsu: look for a line that says multiverse, and remove the # from the beginning of it
[06:56] <fyrestrtr> euclid_888: lol
[06:56] <ubuntu01> fyrestrtr : read only is good for me couse i just copy data's to ext3 and format this D: ntfs drive.....but you sure that this install dont couse data loss on my d: drive? ubuntu will make swap drive also? how big?
[06:57] <Cryptid> how do i update my breezy to dapper with making any changes yo installed stuff on my breezy???
[06:57] <nooby_god> How do I get the latest and greatest packages?
[06:57] <fyrestrtr> !upgrade > Cryptid
[06:57] <prmigsu> ok thx i will return if i dont get it thx for help
[06:57] <lophyte> prmigsu: np :)
[06:57] <SurfnKid> it sucks so much, it doesnt let microsoft suck anything else cuz its sucked by linux mwhaha!!!
[06:57] <cheatersrealm> fyrestrt: I think I gotta upgrade my firmware
[06:57] <nooby_god> I want to get amarok 1.4.1 and Inkscape 0.44, how do I get them?
[06:57] <lophyte> !offtopic > SurfnKid
[06:57] <nooby_god> I want to have the latest packages
[06:57] <nooby_god> How do I get them?
[06:57] <tagz77> how can i tell if my wireless pci card is installed correctly?
[06:57] <tagz77>  how can i tell if my wireless pci card is installed correctly?
[06:57] <SurfnKid> lophyte, no need, just bein silly
[06:58] <dr_willis> hmm - if it works? :p
[06:58] <cheatersrealm> nooby_god: aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade
[06:58] <fyrestrtr> nooby_god: you can always compile them by hand if you can't find a .deb file somewhere.
[06:58] <cheatersrealm> nooby_god: also prefix both of those with sudo if you're not as root
[06:58] <fyrestrtr> tagz77: try connecting using it from the network manager.
[06:58] <ubuntu01> fyrestrtr : read only is good for me couse i just copy data's to ext3 and format this D: ntfs drive.....but you sure that this install dont couse data loss on my d: drive? ubuntu will make swap drive also? how big?and it make it from c:?
[06:58] <cocox> which is the equivalent to "tracert" in windows ??????????
[06:58] <nooby_god> cheatersrealm I do that, but inkscape 0.44 is not available
[06:58] <cheatersrealm> cocox: traceroute
[06:58] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu01: default swap space is 1.5 GB (iirc)
[06:59] <tagz77> how can i tell if my wireless card in installed correctly???
[06:59] <cheatersrealm> nooby_god: when was inkscape .44 released?
[06:59] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu01: just tell it to use the C: partition, it will do everything there.
[06:59] <fyrestrtr> cocox: tracepath
[06:59] <nooby_god> cheatersrealm a few weeks ago?
[06:59] <cocox> cheatersrealm, fyrestrtr thanks guys
[06:59] <cheatersrealm> nooby_god: maybe it didn't make it onto the ubuntu repositories yet?
[07:00] <nooby_god> bah, I love Ubuntu's usablilty, but this lack of having the latest packages is hurting me
[07:00] <nooby_god> I might move back to Gentoo then
[07:00] <cheatersrealm> nooby_god: I might be wrong
[07:00] <fyrestrtr> nooby_god: compile them.
 there are tow lines that allredy are uncoment and i still cant find the sun-java5..... =(
[07:01] <nooby_god> fyrestrtr is there a sane way to compile such packages?
[07:01] <ubuntu01> ok...thx......i will install it after i left the channel....i really hope my data's on d extended drive is still there after install :) thx fyrestrtr
[07:01] <lophyte> prmigsu: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin doesn't work?
[07:01] <akr0> anyone having the ati fglrx ubuntu driver on his machine...it would not work for me even with the xorg-package and with theati-original(new one out..)
[07:01] <nooby_god> and that will not affect my package management?
[07:01] <prmigsu> i will try again wait
[07:01] <tagz77> akr0 i got ati installed here
[07:02] <akr0> tagz77 : you did it by hand or the default xorg-fglrx
[07:02] <fyrestrtr> nooby_god: apt-get install build-essential, apt-get build-dep inkscape, download source of inkscape, cd /directory ./configure, make, then sudo make install
[07:02] <javb> hi, incredible but i cant open Gmail using my firefox, but in windows i do.. :S this is weird, it stays like waiting..
[07:02] <tagz77> by hand
[07:02] <tagz77> !ati
[07:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:02] <nooby_god> ok fyrestrtr I'll look into that
 nop it says "adp-get command not found"...
[07:02] <lophyte> prmigsu: its apt-get
[07:02] <fyrestrtr> prmigsu: its apt-get
[07:02] <prmigsu> oooo srry
[07:02] <javb> any  udeas?
[07:02] <euclid_888> fyrestrtr, Initially the tracepath said "1: 192.168.1.100, 1:192.168.1.1, etc" then I tried what Akr0 said and now ping and tracepath fail saying "network unreachable"!
[07:03] <akr0> yes i had it running before too by hand....but after the reinstall of ubuntu dapper it just wouldn'twork
[07:03] <fyrestrtr> euclid_888: eh? what did you do to make it fail?
[07:03] <fyrestrtr> euclid_888: better yet, complain to Akr0 :P
[07:03] <euclid_888> fyrestrtr, I typed "sudo ifdown -a" then "sudo ifconfig eth0 up"
[07:03] <tagz77> reinstall it
[07:04] <fyrestrtr> euclid_888: how many interfaces do you have on that machine?
[07:04] <vinicius> i finished installing ubuntu now, and i cant access my files.. i guess that is some user or groups settings, but i tried almost everyuthing
[07:04] <fyrestrtr> vinicius: 'my files'?
[07:04] <blameless> hello. can a server installation of dapper be done from the desktop install cd?
[07:04] <m0gsi> a
[07:04] <euclid_888> fyrestrtr, just that ethernet card.
[07:04] <fyrestrtr> blameless: sure.
[07:04] <akr0> euclid_888 : use wlan0 or is eth0 your wlan? try iwconfig it will tell you ..
[07:04] <vinicius> i have a 'home' partitiion
[07:04] <cheatersrealm> blameless: boot with 'server' instead of just pressing enter
[07:04] <fyrestrtr> euclid_888: is it wireless, or wired?
[07:04] <fontp> man the button mappings on fce ultra are all jacked up
[07:04] <tagz77> akr0:sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx sudo aticonfig --initial sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[07:04] <vinicius> and the username is the same than the other
[07:04] <blameless> cheatersrealm, fyrestrtr thank you :)
[07:04] <euclid_888> akr0, wlan0 didnt work, only eth0 did.
[07:05] <euclid_888> fyrestrtr, wireless. It uses a cord to connect.
[07:05] <akr0> tagz77 : did that allreday :) didn#t work
[07:05] <vinicius> the new user dowsnt have permission to access
[07:05] <valehru> where and how can I install the w32codecs for swiftfox?  the mplayer plugin play's sound however it does not play video
[07:05] <fyrestrtr> euclid_888: what kind of wireless uses a cord to connect?
[07:05] <tagz77> did you change the xorg.conf file???
[07:05] <euclid_888> Oh, It uses a wire.
[07:05] <euclid_888> my bad :)
[07:05] <_Kalm> the non wireless one
 nop now it say " type multiverse is not kown in .... sourse.list . But i have checked so the two lines with multiverse is uncomented.... =(
[07:06] <lophyte> !repo
[07:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:06] <lophyte> prmigsu: try that ^
[07:06] <Draconicus> akr0: I can't seem to find the other kind of adapter. Can you link me to some sort of guide regarding the ndiswrapper thing?
[07:06] <Dial_tone> there has to be an app that will synchronize files FROM an ipod. surely someone has wanted to do this before
[07:06] <fyrestrtr> euclid_888: okay. When you do sudo ifconfig eth0 up -- what do you get on the screen? I suspect you are not getting the right route via dhcp for some reason.
[07:06] <dskhit> hello anyone can help me pls !!
[07:06] <euclid_888> fyrestrtr, the problem must be software, not hardware since the hardware hasnt changed and worked fine for many months.
[07:06] <prmigsu> oki
[07:06] <prmigsu> thx
[07:06] <javb_> hello?
[07:06] <Ayabara> Is there a fix for the bug that won't let me close the message windows azureus pops up?
[07:06] <javb_> hi, incredible but i cant open Gmail using my firefox, but in windows i do.. :S this is weird, it stays like waiting..
[07:06] <fyrestrtr> dskhit: try asking a question :)
[07:06] <tagz77> akr0:did you edit the xorg.conf file???
[07:06] <m0gsi> Does anyone know where amsn saves the cached pictures?
[07:07] <euclid_888> fyrestrtr, Initially when I ran "ifconfig" I read two groupings of information and after the akr0 command there was onyl one box and it iddnt list my ip.
[07:07] <Dial_tone> Ayabara: go to help/about then close the dialog box. it works
[07:07] <SurfnKid> guys how can i run xscreensaver so the daemon starts on its own
[07:07] <fyrestrtr> euclid_888: okay you should have only two interfaces, lo and eth0
[07:08] <tagz77> m0gsi:/home/*******/.amsn/displaypic/cache
[07:08] <euclid_888> fyrestrtr, I think only one was listed after the "sudo ifdown -a" command.
[07:08] <Ayabara> Dial_tone: now that's not logical at all :-)
[07:08] <fyrestrtr> euclid_888: yeah because ifdown -a brings down lo
[07:08] <m0gsi> thanks tagz77
[07:08] <tagz77> .amsn is a hidden file, hit ctrl+h to see it
[07:08] <euclid_888> fyrestrtr, what is lo?
[07:08] <tagz77> no probs
[07:08] <Ayabara> Dial_tone: thanks a lot
[07:09] <akr0> euclid_888 : sudo ifconfig -a should get it back   did you have a look at /etc/network/interfaces?
[07:09] <Dial_tone> np
[07:09] <fyrestrtr> euclid_888: local loopback, ie 127.0.0.1
[07:09] <euclid_888> akr0, I'm not a linux person. I don't know what /etc/network/interfaces is.
[07:09] <lophyte> prmigsu: have you tried doing sudo apt-get update ?
[07:09] <ttyfscker> im running 6.06, i want to know how i can change how everytime i plug my iPod in it loads rhythembox.. i want it to load gtkpod instead.  can someone help me so i know what script/config to modify for this?
[07:09] <fyrestrtr> euclid_888: sudo ifup -a should get you going again.
[07:09] <euclid_888> fyrestrtr, Oh yes. I read something that said loopback.
[07:09] <euclid_888> okay, I'll try that.
[07:09] <euclid_888> thanks, brb
[07:09] <BHSPitMonkey> is there an easy way to share printers in ubuntu?
[07:09] <akr0> tagz7: thx but i cant pinpoint theproblem...i#ve reallywanted to know if theubuntu packages work causethey did't for me
[07:10] <Draconicus> akr0: Teh poke.
[07:10] <ardchoille> euclid_888: using the "file" command will tell you what a file it: file /etc/network/interfaces
[07:10] <falz> so, ubuntu's gained a lot of steam/popularity/etc. what's truly difference from it and debian? more bleeding edge packages than etch?
[07:10] <fyrestrtr> okay -- time to go :)
[07:10] <BHSPitMonkey> x-chat doesn't let me say "teh" :/
[07:11] <tagz77> akr0: i got it wo werk on both my machines without a problem, i had to go in and manually edit the xorg.conf file and then reboot before it werked
[07:11] <fyrestrtr> falz: ease of use, mainly.
[07:11] <m0gsi> falz ubuntu is teh r0kk0rz
[07:11] <falz> apt-get and apt-cache still work in the same way?
[07:11] <falz> heh
[07:11] <akr0> tagz77 . but you just changedthe driver to fglrx did'nt you?
[07:11] <falz> I dont want to install it because it teh r0kk0rz :)
[07:11] <falz> what kernel is in 6.06?
[07:12] <m0gsi> 2.6.15
[07:12] <falz> hmm
[07:12] <falz> damn that kernel.
[07:12] <akr0> 2.6.15.23  and .24
[07:12] <nvez> !pdf
[07:12] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/KPDF/gpdf, adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[07:12] <akr0> anyone compiled a 2.6.17 kernel yet?
[07:12] <tagz77> and under the setion "Screen" i changed the Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0] "
[07:12] <nvez> hm
[07:12] <BHSPitMonkey> I thought it was 25, akr0
[07:12] <falz> for some shitass reason 2.6.15 in debian will boot fron cd and install, but on a mobo on a particular desktop, it hangs after a few seconds
[07:12] <[sYn] > .25 here.. :\
[07:12] <SurfnKid> how can i make the xscreensaver load on startup
[07:13] <akr0> tagz77 : was'nt that a bug workaround?
[07:13] <tagz77> there is i believe 2 or 3 places that you have to change the driver to the fglrx
[07:13] <falz> so if I wanted kde, should I just get ubuntu and install kde packages, or just get kubuntu?
[07:13] <Ribs> falz: get kubuntu
[07:13] <tagz77> i dont know it wouldnt werk for me til i did that
[07:13] <falz> but if I want some gnome things (gnome-control-center) that package will install fine and not pwnx0rnate my kde?
[07:13] <akr0> yup 2.15.25...i got it on my system now
[07:13] <euclid_888> fyrestrtr, "Telnet: Unable to connect to remote host. Protocol unavailable." is what it said when I tried to telnet again. My ip is back after running the ifconfig ifup -a command. What to try now?
[07:13] <Draconicus> How good is support for PCI wireless cards?
[07:13] <ttyfscker> im running 6.06, i want to know how i can change how everytime i plug my iPod in it loads rhythembox.. i want it to load gtkpod instead.  can someone help me so i know what script/config to modify for this?
[07:14] <falz> 2.15? hmm. :)
[07:14] <akr0> tagz77 :interesting... thx i try that one
[07:14] <tagz77> ok
[07:14] <Luke> is there a list of all the ubuntu official repos somewhere?
[07:14] <Luke> i've looked on the wiki and stuff but couldnt find it
[07:14] <ompaul> !easysource
[07:14] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:14] <tagz77> i have my raedeon 9550 and x1600 pro installed and werking
[07:14] <Luke> ompaul: thanks
[07:15] <ompaul> Luke, that is the source Luke, :-)
[07:15] <Luke> ompaul: hahaha i lost it but now... i'm good =p
[07:15] <falz> and.. there appears to not be a net install cd, I have to get a full 700mb or 3gb dvd?
[07:15] <lophyte> falz: yup.
[07:15] <falz> ok.
[07:16] <Draconicus> If I have an ndiswrapper thing for a USB wireless adapter, will it work under PPC Linux on a Mac?
[07:16] <lophyte> falz: if you're worried about bandwidth usage.. you can always order a CD for free
[07:16] <dskhit> sorry, but how i can resolve the problem with apt-get and libc6????
[07:16] <SurfnKid> someone using the old Xscreensaver on Dapper?
[07:16] <falz> lophyte: nah, not bandwidth. just would rather start the install now and have it download on the fly the packages I choose
[07:16] <El_Fi> hoola
[07:16] <El_Fi> una pregunta
[07:16] <falz> but cd is ok, as long as it's not dvd only
[07:16] <lophyte> falz: ahh
[07:16] <El_Fi> tengo unbuntu instalado
[07:16] <Draconicus> Damn. Apparently not.
[07:16] <El_Fi> y no tengo cuenta de usuario root
[07:16] <akr0> get  pci atheros card best there is
[07:16] <ardchoille> SurfnKid: you should just be able to add it to startup progs
[07:17] <El_Fi> y para instalar una cosa necesito entrarr como root
[07:17] <falz> anyone know if there are packages for ati's fglrx sutff, or is the normal stuff to do generate the .deb's from ati's package, install the source, and use module-assistant?
[07:17] <ompaul> El_Fi, this is an english language channel
[07:17] <ompaul> !rootsudo
[07:17] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:17] <El_Fi> am
[07:17] <El_Fi> ok
[07:17] <El_Fi> sorry
[07:17] <ompaul> !enter
[07:17] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:17] <tagz77> i cant get this damn wireless connection to get a signal
[07:17] <dskhit> sorry, but how i can resolve the problem with apt-get and libc6???? anyone can help me in pvt ??
[07:17] <euclid_888> Hello
[07:17] <euclid_888> The router lists the IP it gave to my Ubuntu system. So why can't Ubuntu access the net?
[07:18] <SurfnKid> ardchoille, well i added it in synaptic, and its on the system, however not in the menu.
[07:18] <ompaul> !wireless > tagz77
[07:18] <SurfnKid> ardchoille, so i added it
[07:18] <falz> euclid_888: default route?
[07:18] <ompaul> tagz77, please read the information from ubotu
[07:18] <euclid_888> yup
[07:18] <akr0> !MAC  probably...its best to use the cvs to get the source and complie yourself..
[07:18] <falz> can you ping the router?
[07:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about MAC  probably...its best to use the cvs to get the source and complie yourself..
[07:18] <tagz77> i have read that ompaul
[07:18] <euclid_888> falz, I can ping the router, but not telnet or connect by HTTP.
[07:18] <SurfnKid> but when i start it for the first time, i believe the daemon isnt started and asks to start? and ive done this once before i just forgot howto
[07:18] <ompaul> akr0, please do not use ! at the start of a comment -it is a trigger for the channel bot
[07:19] <falz> euclid_888: ping past router? or telnet to the http port on the router?
[07:19] <phos> hey
[07:19] <akr0> euclid_888 : remark telnet is not enabled on most routers...security reason
[07:19] <Knag> hey
[07:19] <euclid_888> falz, CAn not telnet to any port of the router, nor ping past it. I can only ping it.
[07:19] <falz> hmm
[07:19] <falz> you should be able to telnet to port 80 on ther outer if it has a http interface. if not, something's firewalled on your machine
[07:19] <phos> i was wondering if anyone could shed a little light on a problem ive been having?
[07:19] <Luke> ompaul: you know where I can read what multiverse, universe, and restricted mean in terms of repos?
[07:19] <SurfnKid> phos, shoot
[07:19] <euclid_888> I'm using the router from another system right now, so it works fine.
[07:19] <ardchoille> SurfnKid: you can start and stop the daemon via the xscreensaver window
[07:19] <akr0> euclid_888 : you don't have aproxy enabled do you?
[07:19] <ompaul> !repos > luke
[07:20] <ompaul> Luke, read the message from ubotu
[07:20] <Luke> ompaul: thanks
[07:20] <euclid_888> akr0, I'm using the default Ubuntu system, so I dont know.
[07:20] <compengi> if i will delete /var/cache/apt/archives will it make any difference?
[07:20] <phos> i just upgraded to dapper last week, and im having a problems with my media players
[07:20] <tailsfan> No Sound phos?
[07:20] <compengi> cause they take alot of space
[07:20] <phos> totem will play videos, but will crash if i try to open it on its own#
[07:21] <phos> rhythmbox doesnt recognise any media formats
[07:21] <euclid_888> I can telnet to the router from my WinXP system, but not Ubuntu
[07:21] <phos> and mplayer doesnt even try to start
[07:21] <ompaul> phos, have you used any software to "help" you with media players and so on?
[07:21] <phos> yet the firefox plugin for it works perfectly
[07:21] <akr0> euclid_88 : then you should go to the ubuntu system menu...administration then network......deactivate and reactivate your ethernet and it should work allright..
[07:21] <phos> totem complains about an X Window system error
[07:22] <SurfnKid> ardchoille, so starting the xscreensaver will let me start it?
[07:22] <euclid_888> akr0, I'll try that "again" lol. brb
[07:22] <ompaul> phos, can you answer my previous question please
[07:22] <SurfnKid> ardchoille, i gotta run, ill come back later, thx for the help
[07:22] <SurfnKid> :)
[07:22] <phos> i tried installing them again with automatix, but i really dont like it, it seems to do a lot of broken installations
[07:22] <compengi> if i will delete /var/cache/apt/archives will it make any difference, cause it takes alot of free space?
[07:22] <ardchoille> SurfnKid: there are a lot of options and commands. have a look at xscreensaver-command -help
[07:23] <akr0> euclid_888 : well i have a wlan on mine so i always had to check thosething at least twice :)  ..patience is in this case a virtue
[07:23] <SurfnKid> ok will do laters
[07:25] <tagz77> i cant get a signal with my wireless card
[07:25] <ompaul> phos, okay you have two choices, one goto the channel #automatix whatever it does we do not support, I have seen it break several systems in the past - we don't support it here - My usual suggestion is reinstall and use the documentation in http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:25] <phos> ompaul, ok
[07:25] <ompaul> phos, mind if I pm you?
[07:26] <phos> not at all
[07:27] <jadacyrus> how would i access the unstable archive in the repositories
[07:27] <syberek> hejka, gada ktos po polsku??
[07:28] <Viper> Hello all. Can i get some help on Ubuntu here???
[07:28] <Warbo> !helpme
[07:28] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:29] <akr0> ee you on the other side!
[07:29] <Viper> Ubuntu update shows updates available but I cannot open the window or install updates. Any ideas?
[07:30] <Warbo> Viper: What happens when you click on the notification area icon?
[07:30] <ardchoille> Viper: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[07:30] <Viper> Warbo: Nothing happens unfortunately
[07:30] <tony__> Please! need urgent help, im sure its easy for u guys, havnt been able to find help on this. some apps turn black in background of menus so i cant read menu alternatives, also other parts turn black. follow link for screenshot... and thanks!! http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/5932/screenshot5js.jpg
[07:31] <Warbo> Viper: Are you the first user that was added to your system?
[07:31] <Viper> Warbo: yes
[07:31] <ttyfscker> im running 6.06, i want to know how i can change how everytime i plug my iPod in it loads rhythembox.. i want it to load gtkpod instead.  can someone help me so i know what script/config to modify for this?
[07:31] <Warbo> Viper: OK, so you should be in the admin group
[07:31] <Warbo> ttyfscker: System>Preferences>Removable Drives and Media?
[07:31] <Viper> Warbo: I am the only user so I think so
[07:31] <ardchoille> tony__: looks like it may be a problem with the theme you're using. Have you tried changing themes and see if it helps?
[07:32] <Warbo> Viper: You can get the updates with "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" but I don't know what would cause the update manager to stop working
[07:33] <Viper> Warbo: A friend of mind ask me to do "sudo chown -R paul /usr"
[07:33] <ttyfscker> Warbo, where is that in xfce4 though?
[07:33] <tony__> ardchoille, thanks ill try that but it came after a while. ill get back asap with reults!
[07:33] <Warbo> Viper: What stupid friends you have
[07:33] <ardchoille> tony__: ok :)
[07:33] <Viper> Warbo: ok
[07:34] <euclid_888> Ubuntu can ping my router and other computer on the local network, but not anything on the Internet. It can also not Telnet to the router, nor bring up webpages from the router or internet. It uses DHCP and ifconfig shows that Ubuntu has a valid ip from the router. What might be the problem with Ubuntu connecting to the internet or router?
[07:34] <Warbo> Viper: You have REALLY screwed that up, since not all of the files in there are meant to be owned by root, so you can't just "sudo chown -R root /usr" either
[07:34] <Warbo> ttyfscker: I have no idea about XFCE
[07:35] <Viper> Warbo: He also changed the the permissins on the share directory "File group" to Paul instead of root
[07:35] <ttyfscker> well if i change it in gnome
[07:35] <ttyfscker> it will still work in xfce wont it
[07:35] <Viper> Warbo: that's when I noticed that update did not work
[07:35] <tony__> ardchoille, unfortunately it seems to be the same even if i use default theme... any other ideas, i tried posting on the forum but no answers in more than a week
[07:35] <Warbo> Viper: Why on earth did he do that stuff? Let me guess, he used to use Windows?
[07:35] <Viper> Warbo: Ah, yup!!!
[07:35] <Solarion> Warbo: that's hardly fair.  Just about *everyone* used to use Windows.
[07:36] <Warbo> Solarion: I didn't use Windows
[07:36] <Viper> How can I fix it
[07:36] <Solarion> Warbo: Mac?
[07:36] <Warbo> Viper: Reinstall?
[07:36] <ardchoille> tony__: no, sorry, I have no idea.. that's the first time I have seen anything like that. I was hoping it was the theme.
[07:36] <ompaul> Viper, have you a seperate home partition
[07:36] <Warbo> Solarion: Amiga
[07:36] <Solarion> Warbo: you will also note the "just about" in there.  :)
[07:36] <Solarion> ah
[07:36] <odin__> for some reason when I do su it gives me an authentication error, and I know the password is right
[07:36] <Viper> Viper: Amiga
[07:36] <tony__> ardchoille, xchat, openoffice, klibido, k3b are some of the apps and it seems to partially com and go in some of the apps
[07:36] <euclid_888> Any Ubuntu gurus here?
[07:36] <Warbo> odin__: Use "sudo -i"
[07:37] <Viper> Ompaul: Yes, dual boot system
[07:37] <tony__> ardchoille, could it be the metacity?
[07:37] <Solarion> _RocH: czesc!
[07:37] <_RocH> cze , pomylilem kanaly ;)
[07:37] <ompaul> Solarion, I have used windows but a lot less than operating systems with kernels called kernel :) that have not had a history of  8.3 naming
[07:37] <ttyfscker> Warbo, can you see what app it runs when you run that Removable drives and Media option
[07:37] <ardchoille> tony__: I don't think so, Metacity is the window manager and is not responsible for widget colours.. GTK2 is responsible for the widget colours.
[07:37] <DaddyArokh> morning all, i have a few questions about this fresh install of ubuntu. first of all, I know I didn't do the partitions right so I need to redo it. I don't know how big to make the swap part. 120 gb hdd, I want 30 gb system, and around 90gb data. how much swap should i make?
[07:37] <ajayc> hey guys
[07:38] <Viper> So I guess the best I can do is reinstall?????
[07:38] <EdLin> DaddyArokh: swap should be about the same as your RAM plus 50%
[07:38] <ompaul> Viper, it is the fastest
[07:38] <Solarion> Viper: you should be able to tell ubuntu to re-install packages
[07:38] <DaddyArokh> ok, 512mb ram, so I should do around 768 mb?
[07:38] <Viper> Damn!!
[07:38] <tony__> ardchoille, could i have messed with that by tryng to install some 3ddesktop? could i fix by reinstalling any packages?
[07:38] <EdLin> DaddyArokh: yep
[07:38] <Solarion> but re-installation is the most guaranteed way of making sure all perms are back to the way they should be.
[07:38] <Viper> Solarion: Sorry I am new to this as you can see. How do I do that??
[07:39] <DaddyArokh> well I do a lot of video editing from the camcorder, should i make a bigger swap for that?
[07:39] <ompaul> Solarion, you don't know what extras Viper  has in there permissions could be shot all over the place
[07:39] <Warbo> ttyfscker: It runs "gnome-volume-properties", so I don't think that is what you want
[07:39] <odin__> Warbo:  honestly, it doesn't even take a password?
[07:39] <Solarion> ompaul: extras?
[07:39] <Solarion> it should all be in the package manager
[07:39] <EdLin> DaddyArokh: you can make it about twice RAM, but larger than that is not helpful
[07:39] <ompaul> Solarion, weeks of debugging over two hours to get it right -- work the balance
[07:39] <Solarion> true
[07:39] <Warbo> odin__: Su is only enabled for root, so use sudo instead
[07:39] <ompaul> Solarion, packages that are non standard or taken from sonewhere else
[07:39] <ttyfscker> thanks Warbo  ill see
[07:39] <ompaul> !rootsudo
[07:39] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:40] <odin__> Warbo:  su always worked in the past, though
[07:40] <ardchoille> tony__: try stopping 3ddesktop and see if it solves the prob. If so, you know what to troubleshoot.
[07:40] <DaddyArokh> edlin, does it hurt to have more swap than necessary? like will it slow it down? I let ubuntu figure out my partitions and it did the full 120gb in one, with about 1.5gb swap
[07:40] <Warbo> odin__: Well it is better to use sudo
[07:40] <Solarion> ompaul: true.  I hadn't thought of going extra-distro.
[07:40] <tony__> ardchoille, i never got that to work
[07:40] <loko__loko> hi............... is there any problem w/ the time setting/region? mine is 8hours less...... thanks
[07:41] <Solarion> Viper: you're *probably* better off just re-installing.  It shouldn't be very painful.
[07:41] <ompaul> Solarion, default installs +1 or two packages = commercial environment - hacked to death and back typical home user :)
[07:41] <EdLin> DaddyArokh: I really don't know, I noticed that Ubuntu defaulted to 1.5GB here as well
[07:41] <tony__> ardchoille, what about xgl. is it a standard part of ubuntu. what happens if i stop it?
[07:41] <dad> is there a way to display multiple user accounts on login?
[07:41] <Viper> Solarion: Thanks!  I will begin the process...
[07:41] <Solarion> Viper: if you really, really don't want to re-install, you can tell Ubuntu to re-install a specific package by finding it in the package manager and right-clicking on the package.
[07:42] <ardchoille> tony__: I have no idea about xgl.. I see xgl as a waste of time and resources so I can't help with it.
[07:42] <EdLin> DaddyArokh: I don't use much swap on a regular basis. :-)
[07:42] <DaddyArokh> i was going to ask about the whole root/su thing too. my last escapade with linux was fedora which uses a real "root" account. I can't su in ubuntu because it never even asked me for a root password, do I just use sudo?
[07:42] <Solarion> It will bring up a list of things you can do with the package.  Just be forewarned that it could be much, much more painful in the long run.
[07:42] <Warbo> DaddyArokh: If you have 1GB of RAM then swap is usually not needed at all, so 512 may be sensible to have 512. You can always make a temporary swap file in an emergency situation (like create_compressed_fs needs)
[07:42] <Solarion> DaddyArokh: yes
[07:42] <Warbo> DaddyArokh: Use sudo with your regular password
[07:42] <tony__> ardchoille, thanks. ill try and see over my settings there. thanks for your time!
[07:42] <Bassetts> does anyone know how i can get my mouse to respond without restarting?? i just plugged my kvm in and it is not responding
[07:43] <Solarion> "sudo foo" will run foo as root
[07:43] <ardchoille> tony__: You're welcome :)
[07:43] <Bassetts> oh, it just started to respond
[07:43] <loko__loko> quickie question........................... what is the ms access equivalent on open office?        thanks alot
[07:43] <Evilscientist> hey....is there a way to "automount" a drive in ubuntu-server?
[07:43] <Warbo> OO Base
[07:43] <EdLin> DaddyArokh: Warbo: you should always have a swapfile because the kernel optimizes usage for speed or space depending upon swapfile availability
[07:43] <DaddyArokh> not that i'm complaining, but can you explain the reasoning behind a pseudo root account? couldn't anyone sudo on this machine and get in?
[07:43] <odin__> is there some trick to mounting a slave hard drive?
[07:43] <ardchoille> loko__loko: open office calc
[07:43] <Solarion> DaddyArokh: if they have the password and are permitted by sudo
[07:43] <Warbo> DaddyArokh: Only users in the "admin" group can sudo
[07:44] <DaddyArokh> so sudo looks at your login name and password and thats how it authenticates?
[07:44] <Warbo> ardchoille: Calc is a spreadsheet program
[07:44] <loko__loko> thanks ardchoille.... i was experimenting w/ openoffice data... and it always freeze....................... thankd warbo
[07:44] <Solarion> DaddyArokh: it is technically very configurable, e.g. user foo may only run bar and baz.
[07:44] <euclid_888> Can anyone help me fix my Ubuntu and Linksys router problem?
[07:44] <ardchoille> loko__loko: ooffice -base
[07:44] <ardchoille> Warbo: yeah, wrong module
[07:44] <loko__loko> yikes, now im confused.
[07:45] <Warbo> loko__loko: Calc=Excel, Base=Access
[07:45] <DaddyArokh> ok then just 2 other questions. is there a program similar to microsoft money (that can actually import an old money file) or do I need to use wine for that? and is there a decent yahoo chat/messenger client (for my wife)?
[07:45] <ardchoille> calc is the spreadsheet app, base is the database app
[07:45] <Viper> Solarion: I have a dual boot system. What is the easiest way to reinstall ubuntu??
[07:45] <Warbo> !gaim
[07:45] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[07:45] <ardchoille> Warbo: Thank you for catching my error :)
[07:45] <Solarion> Viper: the way you installed it in the first place?
[07:45] <thompa> i tried to add my hda1 fat32 to /home in admin menu: disks, (which i should not have done) now i am locked out
[07:45] <DaddyArokh> yeah gaim doesn't seem to do yahoo
[07:46] <Solarion> DaddyArokh: Look for gnucash.  I don't know if it imports Microsoft's proprietary format or not, though.
[07:46] <Warbo> DaddyArokh: I have 2 yahoo accounts open on it right now
[07:46] <tsume> gnucash is a joke
[07:46] <tsume> wine can run quicken
[07:46] <DaddyArokh> warbo on gaim? i couldn't figure out how to do it
[07:46] <archetypo> tcpinfo is what you use to do a network speed test?
[07:46] <Solarion> DaddyArokh: you may be able to export the data from Money
[07:46] <loko__loko> thanks warbo................. and i also been installing ubuntu on our ecs 553... it freeze, but it was ok on our desktop............ any issue w/ laptops?
[07:46] <Solarion> tsume: let the dude decide for himself
[07:46] <Warbo> DaddyArokh: Just add an account, put in the username, password and voila
[07:46] <EdLin> DaddyArokh: I use Yahoo on GAIM too
[07:46] <compengi> what program can i use to resize the swap file and add it to ext3
[07:47] <Solarion> DaddyArokh: there's also MoneyDance and some others
[07:47] <jean> hi, anyone can tell me where can I find the xine icon for lunch it...or how to find it please ?
[07:47] <Warbo> A swap file should be deactivated and deleted, then make a new one on your ext3, mkswap it then swapon it
[07:47] <Solarion> DaddyArokh: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=137148
[07:47] <odin__> if I've hooked up a slave hard drive, wouldn't mount -a /dev/hdb# /mnt work?
[07:47] <Viper> Solarion: If i boot with the ubuntu CD and run manual partitioning
[07:47] <ubuntu01> fyrestrt1 <
[07:48] <ubuntu01> i forgot to say that the partitions on one hdd.
[07:48] <ompaul> loko__loko, please stop with the extra ... this is not im and it costs an extra line in IRC :-) people who are slow readers or new to irc might find it hard to follow, thanks
[07:48] <Solarion> Viper: uncertain.  I've never re-installed ubuntu.  There should be an option to re-install, though.
[07:48] <falz> no linux distro has a "re-install" option.
[07:48] <Warbo> odin__: mount -a moutns what is in fstab. It needs no more options. mount device mountpoint will mount the filesystem on device onto mountpoint, no -a needed
[07:48] <cappicard> wtf? [4295043.807000]  visor ttyUSB1: Device lied about number of ports, please use a lower one.
[07:48] <compengi> Warbo, are you talking to me?
[07:48] <DaddyArokh> thanks for the link solarion
[07:48] <Solarion> falz: pretty sure they do, but not in so many words, no.
[07:49] <Kaja> lol lying devices
[07:49] <Kaja> -typo
[07:49] <Warbo> compengi: Yes
[07:49] <Viper> Warbo: Is there an easy way to reinstall ubuntu??
[07:49] <DaddyArokh> i don't think i'm ready to make the hard cutover to ubuntu only. I think i'll dual boot with xp so I can do money and that kinda stuff whilst I figure out linux
[07:49] <falz> you could install but leave certain partitions in place, like /home. that would sort of be a reinstall.
[07:49] <Warbo> compengi: Although why you have a swapfile is beyond me
[07:49] <tsume> Viper: pop in the CD, reinstall
[07:49] <DaddyArokh> to do that, do I need to install xp first and then ubuntu?
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[07:49] <tsume> Viper: you don't have to format everything
[07:49] <Solarion> DaddyArokh: the best thing you can do is be forward-thinking when buying hardware and applications.
[07:49] <tsume> you don't hav eto format at all for a reinstall
[07:50] <bayzin> i need help with partions
[07:50] <odin__> Warbo:  well I'm getting nothing but "you must specify the filesystem type" error messages whether I use -a or not
[07:50] <Warbo> Viper: Run the desktop CD like everybody else (or the alternative if that doesn't work)
[07:50] <compengi> Warbo, so i should delete the swap partition and then add it to ext3, then from ext3 remove the swap
[07:50] <DaddyArokh> solarion, I want to get away from windows completely someday. but I have so much stuff that I just don't know how to do yet in linux (camcorder, digital cam, ms money, yamaha midi keyboard, etc)
[07:50] <Warbo> odin__: then specify a type with -f type, or you may be trying to mount a device which can't be mounted (like swap, or an extended partition)
[07:50] <Solarion> DaddyArokh: digital camera should be straightforward, and likely is even easier under Linux than windows.
[07:50] <Viper> tsume: Sorry for the dumb ??'s Should I boot with the CD?
[07:51] <ompaul> DaddyArokh, for a dual boot - you need to put the non ubuntu system on the machine first
[07:51] <tsume> Viper: yes..
[07:51] <Solarion> Camcorder I have no experience with, but should be able to use the firewrire interface.
[07:51] <odin__> Warbo:  I was able to mount this hard drive a long time ago
[07:51] <bayzin> i need help with a dual boot
[07:51] <wazer> I've been looking around for a faq on installing my megaraid s438 ultra-2 scsi controller.  Ive ran it on older realeases (5.04) but havent had any sucess with any of the recent releases
[07:51] <Warbo> compengi: Don't delete a swap partition. You can resize it or recreate it smaller from a LiveCD with GParted. Swapfiles are different to swap partitions
[07:51] <Solarion> Should be able to do midi stuff, but I
[07:51] <Solarion> am not familiar with it.
[07:51] <ompaul> !dualboot > bayzin
[07:51] <DaddyArokh> i'd like to think the camcorder stuff would be better quality without the fat windows OS behind it screwing everything up... just gotta figure out how to do it
[07:51] <Warbo> !midi
[07:51] <ubotu> Trouble playing midi files? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[07:51] <ompaul> bayzin, please read the note from the bot - ubotu
[07:52] <Warbo> DaddyArokh: Kino maybe
[07:52] <tsume> try playing FF7 midis, you'll be able to tell
[07:52] <Solarion> DaddyArokh: But the core of what I mean is look for Linux compatibility in applications and hardware so that you're not still boxing yourself in to Windows.
[07:52] <bayzin> you sure its the right information i do not have windows at all on this machine
[07:52] <Warbo> tsume: I find Timidity is fantastic. As long as you use some decent pats, not freepats
[07:52] <Viper> Thank guys!! Going fo re-install
[07:52] <DaddyArokh> well for the keyboard, its this "learning keyboard", my wife is learning how to play piano with it. and under windows you can send midi files to it and it will teach you how to play them, not quite sure how to do that in linux
[07:53] <tsume> Warbo: I've tried many, I still haven't been able to find a proper set which plays FF7 well
[07:53] <Solarion> man, the midi stuff was a midi *keyboard*
[07:53] <Solarion> DaddyArokh: there should be a midi device you can use programs to interface with.
[07:53] <Solarion> DaddyArokh: google, however, turns up many interesting results.
[07:53] <Warbo> Bye bye
[07:54] <wazer> Can anyone help?
[07:54] <bayzin> ok thats not what i needed that how to dual boot ubuntu and windows when you have windows i need to do it from ubuntu
[07:54] <DaddyArokh> yeah i'll admit i wasn't totally prepared for this. my daughter was sick so iw as looking for something to do at home while tending to her. i've long wanted to reinstal lwindows and I thought hmm, maybe i'll just go to linux now
[07:54] <richee> hey my laptop is becoming slow
[07:54] <Solarion> DaddyArokh: but for the camera, try it out.  Take some pictures, make sure your camera is set to do "PPTP" mode, and plug in the USB cable.
[07:55] <richee> It takes too much of time to open applications
[07:55] <Solarion> DaddyArokh: come back if you have questions (though I won't always be at the keyboard)
[07:55] <richee> ubuntu is hogging my resources
[07:55] <ttyfscker> has anyone succesfully got their Logitec quick cam messenger to work in 6.06??
[07:55] <DaddyArokh> yeah, i intend to make ubuntu my main os, but we'll have xp on there just in case i need to do something asap and can't figure it out in linux
[07:55] <ompaul> richee, what processor and ram have you got?
[07:55] <Solarion> ttyfscker: which one?
[07:56] <ubuntu01> fyrestrt1 > i forgot to say that the partitions on one hdd.
[07:56] <richee> I have a mobile centrino processor and 256 MB RAM
[07:56] <tsume> Solarion: I think hes talking about the cheap chipset version which doesn't work on linux. I've tried it before, its unsupported ;)
[07:56] <tsume> ttyfscker: please buy a real camera, like the ones over 20 dollars :)
[07:56] <DaddyArokh> wow, why is firefox so laggy? it works fine when i'm not using xchat...
[07:56] <loko__loko> richee....... were you able to install/run ubuntu on your laptop? mine freezes.............................................................
[07:57] <ttyfscker> this is a top of the line logitec
[07:57] <ompaul> loko__loko, please do not use the extra .... okay?
[07:57] <richee> loko__loko: I faced he lotsa of problem installing dapper
[07:57] <dr_willis> Ubuntu works gtreat on my laptop
[07:57] <tsume> ttyfscker: quick cam is not top of the line, they use some proprietary chipset
[07:57] <Solarion> loko__loko: s/\.+/./
[07:57] <bayzin> any one
[07:57] <loko__loko> ompaul... ok sorry.
[07:57] <ttyfscker> tsume,  maybe its not quickcam
[07:57] <ttyfscker> i dont know
[07:57] <richee> ompaul: can u suggest something to speed it up
[07:57] <ttyfscker> it says megapixel on the cam
[07:57] <tsume> loko__loko: even less . :)
[07:57] <loko__loko> ompaul.. keyboard stuck..
[07:58] <tsume> loko__loko: use 1 .!
[07:58] <Solarion> ttyfscker: you have exact model info?
[07:58] <tsume> not 2, not 3, 1 :D
[07:58] <richee> loko__loko: What problem are u facing
[07:58] <ttyfscker> i can look it up
[07:58] <ompaul> loko__loko, then dont use them at all
[07:58] <dash`> is there an easyish way to install codecs etc so that most videos can play?
[07:58] <ttyfscker> tsume it says megapixel rightlight
[07:58] <dr_willis> !w21codec
[07:58] <ompaul> richee, first off get another 256mb ram second off what have you open at the one time
[07:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about w21codec
[07:58] <TARZEAU> I WANT A PONY: http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~npreyss/files/pony.jpg
[07:58] <dr_willis> !w32codec
[07:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about w32codec
[07:59] <tailsfan> !Formats
[07:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about Formats
[07:59] <Solarion> !win32codecs
[07:59] <loko__loko> richlee, when i install the 6.06, it loads very slow,  and it freezes, i thought it was ram so i bought 512mb earlier, but it still freezes
[07:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about win32codecs
[07:59] <Solarion> !win32codec
[07:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about win32codec
[07:59] <Solarion> monkeyshines
[07:59] <ompaul> !w32codecs
[07:59] <ubotu> w32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[07:59] <richee> ompaul: so u suggest to add an extra 256 MB RAM
[07:59] <Solarion> ha
[07:59] <Solarion> should put in aliases
[07:59] <richee> ompaul: 512 MB RAM
[07:59] <wazer> anyone know about scsi raid ubuntu installations?
[07:59] <dbrodie> I am seeing a VERY odd bug with the update manager....
[08:00] <tailsfan> doesd Ubuntu have REGPARM on by default?
[08:00] <dbrodie> I have an update for 'login' and when I look at the changes X crashes...EVERY TIME
[08:00] <dr_willis> wazer,  a lot depends on the exact scsi raid cntroller.
[08:00] <loko__loko> i cant even click the INSTALL, when i click it just wont move, but when i install on my desktop even w/ 256mb, it worked, except the DATA, it freezes when i try opening it.
[08:00] <ompaul> richee, yes that would help a lot what apps have you got running?
[08:00] <richee> ok ompaul great
[08:00] <Laocoon> Hello there! Does someone have the following trouble with the autofill feature of Firefox: when the autofill list appears, data input is not possible anymore in the url bar?
[08:01] <loko__loko> i suspect that 6.06 cant run on centrino.
[08:01] <wazer> dr_willis yeah i have ami ultra-2 s438 havent had any luck
[08:01] <specialKevin> does anybody know how ubuntu gets vga output to display on external source and laptop monitor
[08:01] <richee> is there any fix for the gnome power manager in ubuntu ompaul
[08:01] <Laocoon> Oups, forgot: up to date 6.06 here... :)
[08:01] <bayzin> any one?
[08:01] <ttyfscker> i think what i have is Logitec Quickcam Notebook Pro
[08:01] <ompaul> richee, I have a 5 year old processor working here and it was a lot slower with 256 ram acceptable with 512
[08:01] <tailsfan> !regparm
[08:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about regparm
[08:01] <richee> ok
[08:02] <bayzin> whats the flood ping command on ubuntu?
[08:02] <Laocoon> specialKevin it's an hardware issue: if you only have a vga output, you need a converter...
[08:02] <DaddyArokh> solarion can you help me figure out what to do with partitions for dual boot system?
[08:02] <richee> ompaul: I am also facing problems with gnome power manager
[08:02] <loko__loko> what good "nero" like softeware i can use for ripping avi and mpeg to vcd?
[08:02] <btrento> does anyone use ati fglrx drivers in here?
[08:02] <tailsfan> Dang
[08:02] <Solarion> DaddyArokh: sure
[08:02] <specialKevin> well I have a converter
[08:02] <richee> loko__loko: Gnome baker, K3B
[08:02] <st_iron> good afternoon
[08:02] <DaddyArokh> I have 120gb hdd. Under windows, I'd like 40gb system/OS, the rest will be split between linux and data
[08:02] <ttyfscker> Solarion, i have the Quickcam Notebook Pro i think
[08:02] <specialKevin> and it works in ubuntu but I help out with another distro and wonder how ubuntu gets it to work right out of the box
[08:02] <Solarion> ttyfscker: ah, I don't think that's the one I have
[08:02] <Solarion> ttyfscker: have you tried it out?
[08:03] <DaddyArokh> it'd be cool if i had a shared partition that both os' could read too
[08:03] <dbrodie> Can anybody tell me if this is atleast something I should report somewhere and if so how?
[08:03] <Laocoon> specialKevin: so it should be straightforward: plug the converter on the vga output and on the external source, and you're set! :)
[08:03] <DaddyArokh> * should say, read and write to, so probably fat32?
[08:03] <Solarion> DaddyArokh: linux can read ntfs, but writing is iffy
[08:03] <Solarion> DaddyArokh: yes, fat32 would be it
[08:03] <tailsfan> I wanted to know because I'm going to try to get my sound card read by Ubuntu
[08:03] <richee> ompaul: ?
[08:03] <ttyfscker> Solarion, i have tried the quickcam driver for it
[08:03] <ttyfscker> it dont work
[08:04] <ompaul> richee, I have no ideas about that - you are better off to say the issue you are having with some detail of a discription in the channel
[08:04] <Solarion> ttyfscker: spca5xx?
[08:04] <ttyfscker> Solarion, that didnt work either
[08:04] <Solarion> ttyfscker: pwc?
[08:04] <janito_ito> :S
[08:04] <specialKevin> Laocoon: I believe ubuntu does something special to the xorg conf b/c I have no problems with it working in ubuntu but I also use Foresight on my laptop and would like to get it to work in there
[08:04] <ttyfscker> i havent tried pwc
[08:04] <ttyfscker> whats pwc
[08:04] <ralsheb> where do i put my dns server IP in ubuntu (via command line no gui atm)
[08:05] <Solarion> ttyfscker: unfortunately, I don't have detailed info; google will tell you as much as it well tell me.  :/
[08:05] <ttyfscker> ill try it
[08:05] <cheatersrealm> ubuntu is such a pain to set up.   I've been wroking on getting my bcm43xx driver working for several hours, and still no dice
[08:05] <DaddyArokh> can you use ndiswrapper cheater?
[08:05] <tailsfan> Does Ubuntu use REGPARM?
[08:05] <dxdemetriou> I had the nvidia 440mx with the legacy drivers. Now I have a 5500, and if I change the drivers doesn't work. Anybody knows what may goes wrong?
[08:05] <Sacro> ralsheb, /etc/resolv.conf
[08:05] <Laocoon> specialKevin: so if I understand well, on your laptop you have both a vga output and a S-Video output, right? And you wonder how to activate the S-Video output?
[08:05] <cheatersrealm> DaddyArokh: there's drivers for it
[08:05] <TokenBad> is there a way in ubuntu to record a audio stream?
[08:06] <Solarion> http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/
[08:06] <DaddyArokh> wait, what is bcm43xx? wireless lan? maybe i'm thinking of something else
[08:06] <techmad> Tokenbad: streamtuner does the trick for me
[08:06] <cheatersrealm> DaddyArokh: yeah wlan
[08:06] <Solarion> DaddyArokh: dunno; b44 is *a* 10/100 wired driver.
[08:06] <freakzoid0223> TokenBad,  through amarok i  believe
[08:06] <Sacro> bcm43xx is baaaaaaaaad, ive blacklisted it
[08:07] <DaddyArokh> ok that does sound familiar, i think that was the chip that was on my linksys card. i got it working with ndiswrapper under fedora 4 a while back (before there were real drivers)
[08:07] <specialKevin> Laocoon: no I only have vga output, I have 2 distros on my laptop Ubuntu and Foresight Desktop Linux, in Ubuntu my vga out works right out of the box but with Foresight it doesnt work
[08:07] <wazer> ndiswrapper is great... bcm43xx ghey
[08:07] <Solarion> ttyfscker: looks like that link I posted or qwc might bring you joy
[08:07] <janito_ito> i need download crossoffice... heeeeeeelp no caxo nada, ni siquiera hablo ingles :S
[08:07] <cheatersrealm> I'm pretty sure ndiswrapper doesn't work under dapper
[08:07] <Solarion> ndiswrapper sucks
[08:07] <Sacro> cheatersrealm: working fine here
[08:08] <Solarion> native or nothing!  :)
[08:08] <cheatersrealm> alright
[08:08] <ttyfscker> i didnt see a linke Solarion
[08:08] <DaddyArokh> the only thing that sucked was everytime i upgraded the kernel the wlan stopped working so my dream of administering via putty (computer tucked away in the crawl space with just wlan) didn't work
[08:08] <cycom> ndiswrapper serves its purpose.
[08:08] <cheatersrealm> well it doesn't work on my iBook
[08:08] <richee> ompaul: I have problems with gnome pwoer manager. When I insert the power cord it shows the charging icon, and once when I plug it out it shows the battery icon, but when I am still on battery I log off and login it shows the charging icon and then even if the battery goes to 0 it doesn't even notify until the laptop turn off
[08:08] <ralsheb> resolv.conf isn't made and i get an error cant open file for writing even when im sudo
[08:08] <Solarion> ttyfscker: http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/
[08:08] <cycom> cheatersrealm: that's because you were silly and bought a mac.
[08:08] <wazer> im running ndiswrapper right now...laptop is on 24-7
[08:08] <Laocoon> specialKevin: oh, ok, I see now. I remember having a problem with my wife's Acer: the screen went black when switching to graphical mode because the drivers of dapper drake weren't the latest ones. Did you checked that you have the same version on both distributions?
[08:08] <dbrodie> Can anybody atleast comment on if they got the 'login' update (to version 4.0.13-7ubuntu3.1)?
[08:08] <cheatersrealm> cycom: mac osx doesn't have any problems running it, I just wanted to dual boot
[08:08] <Solarion> that may well be available from unbutu; qwc is almost probably available.
[08:08] <Solarion> ttyfscker: I'd recommend trying qwc firs
[08:09] <richee> ompaul: ?
[08:09] <cycom> cheatersrealm: macs are silly anyhow.
[08:09] <DaddyArokh> cya solarion, thanks
[08:09] <Solarion> DaddyArokh: good luck!
[08:09] <cheatersrealm> cycom: it works really well for a work laptop
[08:09] <ttyfscker> i tried it Solarion
[08:09] <cycom> cheatersrealm: you and you're one mouse button.
[08:09] <ttyfscker> didnt work
[08:09] <cycom> your*
[08:09] <cheatersrealm> cycom: I'm not here for your crap, I'm here for someone to have a brilliant idea about the bcm43xx driver
[08:09] <cycom> cheatersrealm: is it ppc?
[08:09] <archetypo> i;m getting crap network speeds in ubunu over gigabit...anyone else troubleshooted this and found how to tweak it to near wire speeds?  ive tried windowsizing and most of the tricks in the book.  suse gives me 4x's the speed and this is even slower than windows.
[08:09] <cheatersrealm> cycom: yes it is ppc
[08:10] <erikgz> i'm running ubuntu server on an old (1997) gateway solo.  when the kernel boots it sets the framebuffer so tthat it's too small... (short on the bottom) ... how do i turn the framebuffer off?
[08:10] <Shizboom> Anyone know a bash-shell scripting irc channel? i dont see any on freenode
[08:10] <cycom> cheatersrealm: I got it working on a G4 I book a while back.
[08:10] <Sacro> cheatersrealm: modprobe -r bcm4xx && modprobe ndiswrapper
[08:10] <noobian> hello
[08:10] <cheatersrealm> Shizboom: what happened to #bash ?
[08:10] <richee> ompaul: any ideas about this problem ?
[08:10] <Shizboom> thanks :P
[08:10] <noobian> i need help about kernel compiling
[08:10] <richee> UBuntu is really buggy than the dapper version
[08:10] <richee> brezzy version
[08:10] <TokenBad> techmad, how do you record...I clicked record..it flashed a box and then closed
[08:10] <cappicard> hmm... time to upgrade my kernel... when unplugging my a670 from my usb port, I get a kernel oops in visor
[08:11] <erikgz> noobian, you should be able to find a good tutorial using dpkg
[08:11] <ompaul> richee, in spite of me saying I know nothing of it you asked me rather than the channel  - I was off doing other stuff and only noticed now
[08:11] <richee> ompaul: ok
[08:11] <hivemind> Hey guys, I'm rather new and I'm looking at the CLI and bash scripting. I was wondering, what is "foo"?
[08:11] <ompaul> !foo
[08:11] <erikgz> it's not that hard.  just google "compiling kernel ubuntu debian"
[08:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about foo
[08:11] <techmad> tokenbad: it should open up a terminal and start recording after you click record
[08:11] <wazer> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1105667&postcount=218
[08:11] <specialKevin> Laocoon: my problem isnt that the screen goes black my problem is that I screen rates for my laptop screen dont sync with my tv when I use my converter so the image is scrambled.  I was wondering how ubuntu handles the different sync rates
[08:11] <erikgz> any ideas about turning off the framebuffer?
[08:11] <ompaul> hivemind, it is a random variable that is assigned to anything
[08:11] <dr_willis> foo = a geneic 'variable' name. like 'jon doe'
[08:11] <noobian> yep i found tutorials on ubuntu.com but i get errormsgs when the modules compiled
[08:12] <TokenBad> techmad, no...opened something then closed...like it crashed
[08:12] <noobian> ericgz yep i found tutorials on ubuntu.com but i get errormsgs when the modules compiled
[08:12] <techmad> tokenbad: some stations wont let you record
[08:12] <hivemind> ompaul: So, I can just replace it with whatever I want then?
[08:12] <wazer> Ive used that faq and my broadcom wireless has worked flawless!
[08:13] <Laocoon> specialKevin: hmm, this one is strange... Anyway, the graphical configuration is in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. Backuping the one from Foresight and replacing it with the one from Ubuntu might help a bit - provided Foresight also uses xorg... :)
[08:13] <erikgz> noobian, what errors?
[08:13] <D1> is there any disadvantage of using Alsa than ESD as the sound output in the "Multimedia System Selector" flash now works this way, but I get no sound events from gnome. Any reason why?
[08:14] <specialKevin> Foresight does use xorg
[08:14] <erikgz> the whole point of errors is that they're specific :)
[08:14] <MTecknology> what does this mean?
[08:14] <MTecknology> E: samba: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 102
[08:14] <ompaul> hivemind, yes, and if you are using an object orientated lanugage you could use homer for the parent and bart for the child process :)
[08:14] <hivemind> ompaul: Haha, alright. Thanks.
[08:14] <erikgz> this chat is insane...
[08:15] <Laocoon> specialKevin: so copying the ubuntu configuration file into your Foresight install should be OK
[08:15] <specialKevin> I will try that and see if it works
[08:15] <noobian> erikgz, if you have a little patience i ran again kpkg
[08:15] <Laocoon> specialKevin: remember to backup the original file... ;)
[08:15] <specialKevin> yea
[08:16] <five_laptop> anyone use vnc?
[08:17] <erikgz> noobian, not you being insane.  got lots of patience... what's happening?
[08:18] <erikgz> noobian, what happened?
[08:18] <noobian> the compile process stops with error2. I make mrprpoer all time and start again the config/compile
[08:19] <dxdemetriou> For graphic cards, if I replace with the newer, must I reload the module?
[08:19] <ryan_> I'm new to ubuntu and trying to install gnucash.  I ended up uncommenting the "universe" lines in my /etc/apt/sources.list.  Was that right, or is there a better way to do that?
[08:19] <wsjunior> what do i have to do to make ubuntu to mount my data partition and place an icon at the desktop automatically?
[08:19] <erikgz> noobian, what error?
[08:20] <noobian> erikgz, wait a little i was started again kpkg cca 10 mins
[08:20] <erikgz> just "error 2"  what's the first error in the console?  you may have to scroll up the console history (using shift-pageup or the mouse)
[08:20] <erikgz> noobian, cool.  i'll be around
[08:20] <gatekeeper> ryan_: that's fine if you want all the repos you are likely to want have a look at this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[08:21] <dbrodie> There, I crashed again. Anybody have any idea why when I look at the chages for login and passwd in the update manager my X crashes? Is there anyway I can look at this in text mode?
[08:21] <wsjunior> what do i have to do to make ubuntu to mount my data partition and place an icon at the desktop automatically? I can mount it atuomatically adding it to my fstab file but i cant see the damn icon at the desktop whe it is mounted :( please, could anybody help with this problem?
[08:21] <noobian> erikgz, k
[08:21] <erikgz> noobian, if you haven't yet read it, read http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835
[08:22] <JoyFM> hi
[08:23] <JoyFM> i've installed ubuntu using this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies on my Thinkpad 560Z
[08:23] <JoyFM> but the problem is that the network card doesn't work and so i can't get any internet connection (to download/update some additional packages)
[08:24] <noobian> erikgz, I use the simplified version of this howto here:http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560&highlight=dapper+2.6.17
[08:24] <Marcus> whats the channel for people with autism?
[08:24] <JoyFM> the thinkpad needs the e100 driver
[08:24] <JoyFM> but isn't it shiped with ubuntu?
[08:24] <erikgz> noobian, do you have all the dev dependencies (e.g. ncurses, gcc, etc?)
[08:24] <ubuntu01> hello again....
[08:24] <ubuntu01> fyrestrt1 are you gere?
[08:24] <ubuntu01> here?
[08:25] <stefg> wsjunior: it has to be mounted to a subdir in /media for getting an icon on the desktop
[08:25] <Marcus> does anyone know what the channel on this server for autism is called?
[08:26] <noobian> yes. otherwise the compiling do not start (imho)
[08:27] <h4v0k> how do i use the makefile
[08:27] <rixxon> make
[08:27] <wsjunior> stefg: it could be /mnt ?
[08:27] <Marcus> the channel for auspurges syndrome?
[08:27] <h4v0k> everytime i type make install i get this error
[08:27] <Marcus> does anyone know it?
[08:27] <rixxon> h4v0k: did you ./configure
[08:27] <h4v0k>  make install
[08:27] <h4v0k> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[08:27] <h4v0k> yes
[08:27] <rixxon> h4v0k: did you 'make'
[08:28] <wsjunior> stefg: anyways.. i already tried that. it mount the partition but do not show the icon at the desktop :(
[08:28] <h4v0k> rixxon, just make by itself?
[08:28] <rixxon> h4v0k: what are you compiling anyway
[08:28] <rixxon> h4v0k: yes
[08:28] <h4v0k> it says no makefile found
[08:28] <tubedude> Hi All. I am trying to upgrade my breezy to Xubuntu dapper. I am using update manager. Busy waiting for files to download:-)
[08:29] <h4v0k> its a pos software
[08:29] <stefg> wsjunior: there are a couple of conventions and policies.. /mnt is for temporary mount only like mount -o loop some.iso /mnt. /media is considered the place for permanent mounts and is thus a privileged location, where the mounts get icons on the desktop
[08:29] <rixxon> pos?
[08:29] <h4v0k> rixxon, i install pos systems and i want to find a pos software for linux so i can use it instead of windows
[08:29] <logicseed> Hello all
[08:29] <h4v0k> point of sale
[08:30] <logicseed> I'm having a problem with trying to run ubuntu off the cd
[08:30] <logicseed> wondering if you guys could help
[08:30] <rixxon> h4v0k: did you look for a package?
[08:30] <ryan_> logicseed: just ask, if someone knows they'll help
[08:30] <st_iron> logicseed, what is the problem?
[08:30] <gatekeeper> logicseed: what problem?
[08:31] <h4v0k> yeah but cant find anything really
[08:31] <rixxon> h4v0k: what is the name of the software you are attempting to install
[08:31] <cavediver> Hi. Is there another ftp-client using GTK then GFTP? I don't like it and it has no support for SFTP without recompiling-
[08:31] <wsjunior> stefg: so if i mount it at /media and still cant see the icon, which would be the problem?
[08:31] <h4v0k> vxretail
[08:31] <logicseed> I downloaded and burned the newest image, 6.06, then I rebooted and the splash screen pops up and it stalls at Mounting Root File System
[08:31] <logicseed> I tried 4 times, even in safe graphics mode
[08:31] <logicseed> Even tried booting check cd for defects
[08:31] <logicseed> Same thing
[08:31] <ubuntu01> ok....i ask my q again....so i have a c(ntfs) and a d(ntfs) partition on one hdd......i need to keep the data's of d: so  if i install ubuntu to c:  its dont touch my d:?i dont have swap partition....
[08:31] <tagz77> i cant get my wireless connection to activate...any ideas???
[08:32] <erikgz> noobian, use that tutorial i sent you and it'll work.  i gotta go
[08:32] <cavediver> logicseed: try burn it again, slow and with validating
[08:32] <rixxon> h4v0k: there doesn't seem to be any vxretail package, do you know any other "pos" programs?
[08:32] <MTecknology> I'm having issues witih a package - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17644
[08:32] <h4v0k> rixxon, want me to give you the link?
[08:32] <st_iron> logicseed, maybe there are errors on your cd
[08:32] <logicseed> I did already
[08:32] <gatekeeper> logicseed: bad iso sounds like
[08:32] <stefg> wsjunior: dont mount it directly at /media, but a subdir like /media/win_partition. you have to log out and back in to put that into effect for gnome
[08:32] <st_iron> logicseed, burn it again
[08:32] <wsjunior> stefg: the mount options used are defaults,user,rw and it is an ext3 partition
[08:32] <cavediver> logicseed: try abother image
[08:32] <logicseed> I burned it at the lowest speed and validated data
[08:32] <gatekeeper> agree
[08:32] <rixxon> h4v0k: the link to what?
[08:32] <logicseed> I tried two different mirrors
[08:32] <logicseed> This is the second burn
[08:32] <wsjunior> stefg: it is mounted at /media/Data
[08:32] <h4v0k> rixxon, the pkg i found (vxretail)
[08:32] <MTecknology> !ati
[08:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:32] <stefg> so you should have an icon
[08:32] <cavediver> logicseed: mirrors to the same image?
[08:33] <logicseed> the x86 version
[08:33] <wsjunior> stefg: and if i still dont have one?
[08:33] <rixxon> h4v0k: mhm ok lets have a look
[08:33] <gatekeeper> logicseed: are you using dodgy blank CD's ?
[08:33] <stefg> log out or reboot
[08:33] <logicseed> No, they are memorex
[08:33] <wsjunior> stefg: ill try right now. hold on.
[08:33] <logicseed> Something must be wrong because my pc won't boot knoppix either
[08:34] <st_iron> logicseed, download it from the ubuntu.com and burn it very slowly
[08:34] <ryan_> tagz77: is your card supported? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[08:34] <cavediver> logicseed: bad drive perhaps
[08:34] <logicseed> I did download it from ubuntu
[08:34] <hctibtipots> i cant get a connection with my wireless network card
[08:34] <Sage> hi
[08:34] <logicseed> Well with booting knoppix, it stalls and complains about an IRQ and hard drive stuff
[08:34] <h4v0k> rixxon, http://www.bananapos.com/pos/download/bhpos2.html
[08:34] <Sage> i install ubuntu, but how install X and gnome ?
[08:34] <gatekeeper> logicseed: this sounds like a hardware problem
[08:34] <MTecknology> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/samba_3.0.22-1ubuntu3_i386.deb: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 102
[08:34] <logicseed> hmm
[08:35] <logicseed> You don't think this would have anything to do with me being overclocked do you?
[08:35] <h4v0k> rixxon, i got the one retail lite client
[08:35] <gatekeeper> logicseed: has it happened before?
[08:35] <ubuntu01> ok....i ask my q again....so i have a c(ntfs) and a d(ntfs) partition on one hdd......i need to keep the data's of d: so if i install ubuntu to c: its dont touch my d:?i dont have swap partition....
[08:35] <st_iron> logicseed, yes, it will be a hardware problem
[08:35] <logicseed> I haven't tried linux on this pc until lately
[08:36] <logicseed> When you boot the cd in live mode, does it write anything to the hard drive?
[08:36] <st_iron> logicseed, no
[08:37] <logicseed> strange
[08:37] <thompa> i ued disk manager and mounted windows part. in media by mistake and now cant change it to /mnt
[08:38] <Marcus> im looking for soe really cool visualizations for totem
[08:38] <Marcus> does anyone know the name of a package?
[08:38] <logicseed> I'll try setting the bios to default and try again, maybe it doesn't like some sort of bios setting
[08:38] <gatekeeper> logicseed: if you want to convice yourself it's a hardware problem download and burn something from http://www.bootdisk.com/
[08:39] <logicseed> What hardware do you think is bad?
[08:39] <logicseed> It boots windows xp fine
[08:39] <gatekeeper> xp from hdd?
[08:39] <logicseed> no
[08:39] <logicseed> cd
[08:39] <hctibtipots> can any1 help me configure my wireless connection???
[08:39] <cntb> !recyclebin
[08:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about recyclebin
[08:40] <cntb> !recycle
[08:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about recycle
[08:40] <st_iron> logicseed, try install the linux on your hdd and boot that
[08:40] <cntb> deleted on gnome nautilus
[08:40] <cntb> is there recycle bin
[08:40] <logicseed> I can't even get that far, the 2nd line in the bootup sequence, "Mounting Root File System", it stays there forever
[08:40] <rixxon> cntb: look in the down right corner of your screen
[08:41] <cntb> cant see
[08:41] <wsjunior> i would like that every icon that i add to the desktop would be aligned at the right side instead of the default right side of the screen. how could i do that?
[08:41] <cntb> could it be disabled
[08:41] <hctibtipots> can any1 help me configure my wireless connection???
[08:41] <wsjunior> sorry, right side instead of the default left side :)
[08:41] <stefg> !wifi
[08:41] <ubotu> wifi is Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[08:41] <rixxon> cntb: then open nautilus and click Go, Garbage Bin
[08:41] <cntb> and when pressed delete did not get no warning
[08:41] <hctibtipots> i have gone through all that stefg
[08:42] <wsjunior> stefg: thanks that worked i just had to reboot
[08:42] <cntb> rixxon doing it
[08:42] <wsjunior> stefg: do u know how do i solve that new problem?
[08:42] <logicseed> When I put the ubuntu disc in, in windows xp, it autoruns fine and shows me the menu of stuff, exploring the disc appears normal
[08:42] <logicseed> I downloaded linux so I can boot it live and play around with it and learn it a bit without having to alter my hard drive
[08:42] <cntb> rixxon
[08:42] <cntb> 10x
[08:43] <cntb> now copy paste ?
[08:43] <dr_willis> logicseed,  yea? that cd is a bootable live cd - and it has some windows apps on it as well.. reboot with cd in the drive and have a blast
[08:43] <dr_willis> :P
[08:43] <logicseed> I tried that
[08:43] <wsjunior> does anybody knows how to change the gnome default behavior that places every new icon at the left side of the screen?
[08:43] <logicseed> It won't work, thats why I'm here
[08:43] <dr_willis> logicseed,  clarify 'wont work'
[08:44] <logicseed> Stays at "Mounting Root File System"
[08:44] <logicseed> won't go any farther
[08:44] <wsjunior> i would like that every icon that i add to the desktop would be aligned at the right side, is it possible?
[08:44] <logicseed> Booting other linux live cds such as knoppix and SUSE Live DVD results in failure as well
[08:44] <logicseed> I'm wondering if its some sort of incompatibility
[08:45] <dr_willis> logicseed,  hmm. that sounds like some odd hardware issue.
[08:45] <hctibtipots> my wireless sez it is disconnected, how do i get it to connect???
[08:46] <dr_willis> logicseed,  could try the 'dsl' live cd.
[08:46] <logicseed> whats the dsl live cd?
[08:46] <Stork> hi, i got this error when running the `configure` script of keytouch 2.2.0... http://rafb.net/paste/results/kDov2G61.html any ideas anyone?
[08:46] <wsjunior> hello. how do i change the default behavior that places every new icon at the desktop at the left side. i would like them to be aligned at the right side. is it possible?
[08:47] <dr_willis> wsjunior,  may want ot ask the #GNOME guys.. honestly - i doubt it.
[08:47] <wsjunior> dr_willis: im waiting for answer there :)
[08:47] <logicseed> I'm going to go and change my cpu clock settings to stock instead of overclocked and unplug all my usb devices and try again, see if that works
[08:47] <wsjunior> maybe someone here could know as well..
[08:47] <dr_willis> wsjunior,  often with gnome its "do it OUR way! we know best"
[08:47] <wsjunior> lol
[08:48] <logicseed> I'll be back if I can't figure it out
[08:48] <logicseed> thanks for the input guys
[08:49] <Stork> hi, i got this error when running the `configure` script of keytouch 2.2.0... http://rafb.net/paste/results/kDov2G61.html any ideas anyone?
[08:49] <kolaje> My nvidia drivers for my geforce4 420 go are finally installed and working properly, however there is a half-inch vertical black bar while using x on the right side of my screen.  i have heard this is a "margin" and i need to use a "formula" to set the display correct.  apparently there was a howto in /usr/doc/*howto*  so.. /usr/share/*howto* but there isn't.. can anyone help?
[08:49] <wsjunior> my processor is a turion mobile. it always works in userspace gov. is there any way to change the gov to performance by default?
[08:50] <nomats> does the xorg-driver-ati support pci-express cards?
[08:50] <mjr> yes
[08:51] <mjr> nomats, though you might have to use the radeon driver directly instead of the "ati", dunno if that applies to all pci-e cards
[08:51] <hctibtipots> can any1 help me configure my wireless connection???
[08:55] <cwillu> where is the gnome menu file?
[08:55] <blmartin777> where does ubuntu  read (what folder) for things to startup
[08:55] <stefg> http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html <- good read
[08:56] <Lao_coon> blmartin777: have a look at the System/Preferences/Sessions options, the "Startup Programs" should help you
[08:56] <control> !ru
[08:56] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[08:57] <klees> is there a news/rss reader that supports transparency that you guys recommend???
[08:57] <bill[1] > has anyone tried running unreal across two monitors?
[08:57] <cwillu> klees: well I suppose you could find a console rss reader, and run it in a transparent xterm :p
[08:58] <nomats> klees, gDesklets has some
[08:58] <cwillu> bill[1] : not myself, but I recall seeing somebody running it across like 12 displays
[08:58] <ompaul> !il
[08:58] <ubotu>          
[08:58] <cwillu> might have been a custom version though
[08:58] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[08:58] <klees> basically i want something that runs on my desktop with transparency on
[08:58] <ompaul> !sa
[08:58] <ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[08:58] <cwillu> ooo, fancy letters
[08:58] <bill[1] > cwillu: I just remember seeing that if you have xinerma it ges across both screens, and quite frankly, that sounds really cool.
[08:59] <shadowpanda> is there someone here that might be able to help me with wine?
[09:00] <cwillu> anybody know how to either make the xfce menu's show anything (running a remote session), or how to make the default gnome run under a edubuntu remote session?
[09:01] <shadowpanda> please?
[09:02] <prg2020> I just logged into ubuntu and I was asked to enter my keyring password for WPA access 4 times.  Anyone know what that is all about?
[09:03] <t4ken> how do you get a different desktop than gnome
[09:04] <Geheimnis> I'm unable to lock my screen using Ubuntu Dapper, it used to work fine and all of a sudden it stopped working. Has anyone encountered the same problem?
[09:04] <ompaul> t4ken, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop (kde) sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop (xfce) both of those are automatic with reasonable defaults - you can install any one you want
[09:05] <t4ken> can you switch back and forth
[09:05] <t4ken> and keep the settings on each one
[09:06] <trace4466> wsjunior: try looking in the Configuration Editor for the icons setup, you might be able to configure it there
[09:07] <wsjunior> trace4466: configuration editor?
[09:07] <btrento> does anyone know how i might fix a fan problem i am having with fglrx drivers?
[09:07] <erikgz> i've installed ubuntu server... x11-common, and fluxbox... how do i install startx?
[09:08] <wsjunior> is fglrx driver supposed to work with xorg 7 ?
[09:08] <erikgz> i can't run x... using x11-common.  if it's not there then where is it???
[09:08] <tritium> wsjunior: yes, there are ubuntu packages for it
[09:08] <tailsfan> ANyone need help that maybe I can try to fix
[09:08] <wsjunior> tritium: it should work with an ati x200?
[09:08] <trace4466> wsjunior: i'm at a friends using Windows atm :( ask how to open the Configuration Editor
[09:08] <tritium> erikgz: startx is in the "xinit" package
[09:08] <erikgz> ohhhhhhh
[09:09] <tritium> wsjunior: yes, it should
[09:09] <erikgz> tritium.  that seems somewhat counterintuitive
[09:09] <tailsfan> What is Xine as well?
[09:09] <tritium> erikgz: you're not performing a typical install
[09:09] <tritium> tailsfan: a media player
[09:09] <wsjunior> tritium: how to install it correctly?
[09:10] <erikgz> tritium?? there is a "typical" linux install???
[09:10] <tritium> wsjunior: which, specifically?  A typical install includes a major desktop env. such as ubuntu-, kubuntu-, or xubuntu-desktop
[09:10] <archetypo> good bye ubuntu :( i can't get the performance out of the gigabit network and there seem  to be 1000 other people in the same boat --- great desktop, crap server :*| ill be back when you fix your network stack
[09:10] <tritium> erikgz: typical ubuntu install, yes
[09:11] <erikgz> typical only means "from the install cd" and "desktop" then
[09:11] <trace4466> wsjunior: i found these - http://www.gnome.org/learn/admin-guide/2.4/ch01s09.html  http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Using_GNOME_:_Configuration_Editor
[09:11] <dion> How do I go about getting .mpeg, .mpg, and .avi files to work on my new ubuntu install
[09:11] <dion> ?
[09:11] <tritium> erikgz: right, those from which the majority of installs are performed would be "typical"
[09:11] <Viper_714> Solarion & Tsume: Re-installed and all seems to work fine. Thanks!!
[09:11] <tritium> !restricted > dion
[09:11] <wsjunior> tritium: well im already in ubuntu but using open source drivers i think
[09:12] <tailsfan> What is Xine?
[09:12] <erikgz> so, if 51% are a certain way, then that's typical?
[09:12] <erikgz> typically people are women.
[09:12] <Viper_714> Solarion: Re-installed and all seems to work fine. Thanks!!
[09:12] <dion> and I just type that in the command line tritum?
[09:12] <Viper_714> Tsume: Re-installed and all seems to work fine. Thanks!!
[09:12] <tritium> wsjunior: most likely
[09:12] <tritium> dion: type what?
[09:12] <trace4466> wsjunior: alt-f2 then type in gconf-editor
[09:13] <dion> tritium said: !restricted > dion
[09:13] <tritium> erikgz: it happens to be a _much_ large majority
[09:13] <tritium> dion: no, that should have made ubotu send you a PM with a wiki URL
[09:13] <erikgz> i know, i know...
[09:14] <dion> Ahh now I see it, thank you sir
[09:14] <tritium> erikgz: let me check it out a bit.  give me a minute
[09:14] <infamy> does ubuntu server come with a nice all in one admin panel?
[09:14] <Bakemono> hoi
[09:14] <Viper_714> I have a dual boot system and my DOS operating system selection screen shows duplicate ubuntu selections. How can i fix this?
[09:14] <Oni-Dracula> anyone know the path where firefox themes are installed?
[09:15] <tritium> erikgz: do you have the "xserver-xorg" package installed?  It's a meta-package with several dependencies
[09:15] <Seveas> Oni-Dracula, ~/.mozilla/
[09:15] <finalbeta> Anyone using wallpaper-tray from apt-get? None of the buttons work for me? Like the program has a gui, but nothing behind it.
[09:15] <Allz-i-> hello what backage do i need to play dvd movies
[09:15] <Allz-i-> ???????
[09:15] <tritium> !dvd > Allz-i-
[09:15] <ompaul> !dvd > Allz-i-
[09:16] <tritium> heh
[09:16] <erikgz> tritium, you don't have to.  i've installed xinit; running startx gives me "X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X"
[09:16] <erikgz> never heard of that one
[09:16] <ompaul> points to Trinisan
[09:16] <tritium> lol
[09:16] <Geheimnis> oh well, I changed the video driver in MPlayer and it started working all of a sudden, hehe
[09:16] <ompaul> tritium, cheers
[09:16] <tritium> erikgz: please try installing xserver-xorg, as I suggested
[09:16] <kolaje> where is the module configuration in the ubuntu filesystem?
[09:16] <erikgz> tritium, i have
[09:17] <erikgz> tritium... oye!  solved
[09:18] <kbrooks> QHi.
[09:18] <kbrooks> hI.
[09:18] <erikgz> i had on the *last* install on another machine
[09:18] <tritium> erikgz: how about x-window-system-core?
[09:18] <tritium> erikgz: ah, okay
[09:18] <ircjeremy> I asked a question a few days ago, but didn't really get an answer
[09:19] <Viper_714> I have a dual boot system and my DOS operating system selection screen shows duplicate ubuntu selections.  How can I fix this?
[09:19] <erikgz> tritium, here's what confused me... when i install fluxbox why doesn't it count xserver-xorg and xinit as dependencies???
[09:19] <ircjeremy> I can't get into my gnome (ubuntu) desktop, but I can use my Kubuntu just fine
[09:19] <tritium> erikgz: hard to say
[09:19] <synd1> Is there a page that tells you what EXACTLY to do when you are trying to install Ubuntu on a laptop and properly partion that hard drive?
[09:19] <Allz-i-> please can someone plzzz tell me what package do i need to play dvd disk plzzz -i dont have time to read if you are gonna send me a website
[09:19] <tritium> Viper_714: you mean grub?
[09:20] <Seveas> Allz-i-, laziness never works
[09:20] <Seveas> get a dvd player if you are lazy
[09:20] <erikgz> tritium... ubuntu is "funny"
[09:20] <gdb> Allz-i-: You have time to watch a DVD movie but not the time to read some information on how to view it?
[09:20] <Viper_714> Sorry new to linux, what is grub??
[09:20] <erikgz> now it didn't pull in *any* fonts with the xserver-xorg install
[09:20] <tritium> erikgz: well, it rocks too ;)
[09:20] <Ron> hello
[09:20] <Seveas> Viper_714, grub is the thing responsible for booting the kernel
[09:20] <synd1> Anyone?
[09:20] <Seveas> !install
[09:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:20] <erikgz> yes, it's easy to install a desktop and 75 different services that you never use
[09:20] <Seveas> synd1, --^
[09:20] <gdb> synd1: What about the defaul layout is not acceptable?
[09:21] <gdb> default*
[09:21] <synd1> gdb: I can't blow away the XP partition
[09:21] <tritium> Viper_714: what entires are there?  If you've had any kernel updates, there may be a few to choose from.  Also, there are rescue mode entries too.
[09:21] <Viper_714> Seveas: thanks
[09:21] <ircjeremy> I'll let you know if this works
[09:21] <Ron> i leave my laptop for a while, and then get back to it, it has logged out. If i log back in, the applications i had running under the last login, are still running, but i can't see them.. Any ideas?
[09:21] <gdb> synd1: So don't?
[09:21] <mumbles> ok i need a partition tool for ubuntu
[09:21] <Ron> how do i get back into the old session?
[09:21] <synd1> gdb: I need a walkthru for someone who
[09:21] <gdb> synd1: Have you actually tried running the installer?
[09:21] <synd1> gdb: I need a walkthru for someone who's never done this before
[09:21] <tritium> mumbles: gparted and qtparted
[09:22] <mumbles> tritium how do i start qtpared as root ?
[09:22] <mumbles> sudo qtparted dosent work
[09:22] <tritium> mumbles: I've not used it, sorry
[09:22] <synd1> gdb: Yes, I have. I've been running Ubuntu since Warty
[09:22] <tritium> mumbles: did you install it first?
[09:22] <synd1> Seveas: Thanks
[09:22] <gdb> synd1: If there is free space on the disk, there is nothing else you need to do.  The installer will give the option to "Leave existing partitions in place and use available space for installation".  If you're looking to resize your XP because you have no free space, then yes, you'll want to use gparted.
[09:22] <Viper_714> tritium: I have the normal ubuntu startup, I think a rescue selection and then a mem test. Then these thre repeat again. then other operating systems: Windows
[09:23] <kbrooks> !info openttd
[09:23] <ubotu> Package openttd does not exist in dapper
[09:23] <ircjeremy> ok, ubuto, it doesn't seem like those address my problem
[09:23] <dragon> hi all
[09:23] <kbrooks> !info openttd breezy
[09:23] <ubotu> Package openttd does not exist in breezy
[09:23] <kbrooks> !info openttd warty
[09:23] <tritium> Viper_714: you've probably had your kernel updated.  Please run "dpkg -l | grep linux-image", and look at the resuts
[09:23] <ubotu> Package openttd does not exist in warty
[09:23] <Viper_714> tritium: It only happened after I did ubuntu update
[09:23] <ircjeremy> I have Kubuntu working, somehow Ubuntu doesn't work, though I have ubuntu-desktop installed
[09:23] <tritium> results even
[09:23] <gdb> synd1: The installaer in Dapper is a lot different than previous releases.
[09:23] <tritium> Viper_714: makes sense to me
[09:23] <gdb> installer*
[09:23] <kbrooks> can smoeone help me?
[09:23] <kbrooks> I want openttd
[09:23] <Amaranth> kbrooks: it doesn't exist
[09:23] <tritium> Viper_714: we can remove the old kernel if you want to
[09:24] <kbrooks> Amaranth: eh?
[09:24] <ircjeremy> when I try to log in the top & bottom panels flash until I Ctrl+Alt+Bkspace back to the login screen
[09:24] <Amaranth> kbrooks: I get no search results for openttd or ttd in dapper
[09:24] <gdb> synd1: In so much as it's pointy clicky and runs as an application under the live desktop.  The partitioner is a bit easier to use as well.
[09:24] <kbrooks> Amaranth: so how do I get or install openttd
[09:24] <Viper_714> tritium: sounds like a plan. Would I need it for any reason
[09:25] <Amaranth> kbrooks: i guess from source
[09:25] <tritium> Viper_714: not as long as you're booting into the updated one with no problems
[09:25] <Viper_714> titium: paul@andromeda:~$ dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[09:25] <Viper_714> ii  linux-image-2.6.15-23-386              2.6.15-23.39  Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on 386
[09:25] <Viper_714> ii  linux-image-2.6.15-25-386              2.6.15-25.43  Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on 386
[09:25] <Viper_714> ii  linux-image-386                        2.6.15.23  Linux kernel image on 386.
[09:25] <linux_user400354> how can i mount a lvm partition in ubuntu?
[09:25] <tritium> Viper_714: don't paste it here, though, buddy
[09:25] <dragon> ive installed frostwire and it wont open....n e 1 got n e ideas?
[09:25] <ircjeremy> I guess no one has seen my problem before
[09:25] <Amaranth> kbrooks: you could try http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/openttd/openttd_0.4.7-1_i386.deb?download
[09:26] <kbrooks> ty Amaranth
[09:26] <synd1> gdb: So gparted runs under the live desktop?
[09:26] <Viper_714> tritium:  Sorry
[09:26] <tritium> Viper_714: no worries.  Go ahead and query me.
[09:26] <gdb> synd1: I can't say if the live CD comes with a repartitioning program, but you can certainly install one once running the live desktop in order to manipulate your disks.
[09:27] <kbrooks> Gdebi is in Dapper, bundled
[09:27] <synd1> gdb: Ah, OK.
[09:27] <Viper_714> Tritium: query meaning private chat?
[09:27] <tritium> Viper_714: yes
[09:28] <gdb> synd1: It's nice using the live CD for this because you get a "full install of Ubuntu" that doesn't keep your hard disks in use, and thus in a state where they can't be modified by partitioning software.
[09:28] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> do i have to chmod a script before i can run it??
[09:28] <hctibtipots> i need help configuring a wireless conection
[09:29] <mateX> hctibtipots: is it a vpn?
[09:29] <gdb> synd1: As for actually using gparted, I've not done so for.... almost 10 years. ;-)  So I can't really offer much advice beyond "boot the live CD, install the partition editing software, and go from there."
[09:29] <tritium> !wireless > hctibtipots
[09:29] <hctibtipots> i have tried everything and cant figure it out
[09:29] <kbrooks> gdb: "can't be modified by partitioning software"? do you mean CAN
[09:29] <hctibtipots> nope
[09:29] <gdb> synd1: You should be able, however, to get back on IRC from the booted live CD.
[09:29] <gdb> kbrooks: No, I mean can't be.
[09:29] <kbrooks> gdb: as in?
[09:30] <hctibtipots> matex:dwl520ve1, wont connect aor get a signal
[09:30] <synd1> gdb: Ah, that's the other thing. The Live CD doesn't detect the wireless card :/
[09:30] <gdb> kbrooks: "doesn't keep your hard disks in use, and thus in a state where they can't be modified" (because they are in use).
[09:30] <mateX> hctibtipots: http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net
[09:31] <Stork> jesus christ
[09:31] <Viper_714> Tritium: Not a register IRC name so PM is blocked
[09:31] <Stork> what does ubuntu have against my keyboard
[09:31] <gdb> synd1: doh!  The easiest work around, if it's possible for you, would be to plug in an Ethernet cable.  As for getting wireless running on Linux, that's not something I've tackled so I can't advise you further on it.
[09:31] <gdb> synd1: (I'm sure there are others in here who can, though). ;-)
[09:31] <tritium> Viper_714: you're not registered?
[09:32] <Viper_714> tritium: not sure how to even begin to register. Do you have the link?
[09:32] <tritium> Viper_714: /msg nickserv help register
[09:32] <xc_legend> hello
[09:33] <Stork> fucking ubuntu
[09:33] <xc_legend> i am having some problems with updates
[09:33] <nvez> Stork, behave.
[09:33] <nvez> =P
[09:33] <nvez> Good call. =P
[09:34] <Stork_> is there any reason why keytouch doesn't work for me.. at all
[09:34] <tritium> Stork_: evading bans, i see?
[09:34] <xc_legend> i have copied the error messages
[09:35] <Stork_> doesn't sound like something i'd do
[09:35] <gnomefreak> tritium: want to fix that?
[09:35] <Stork_> sigh
[09:35] <Stork_> go on then
[09:35] <hctibtipots> my wireless has no signal, and it is 2 feet from the router, how do i get it to get a signal and connect???
[09:35] <tritium> gnomefreak: go for it
[09:35] <jcmcbeth> Hey, I have a program that is causing a segmentation fault and is dumping the core, but I can't find the core file anywhere, where should it be?
[09:35] <wsjunior> i just installed fglrx following the howto at the ubuntu wiki and rebooted my machine. it seems to be installed but fglrxinfo returns: Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual! so i think i dont have 3d yet. how to solve that problem?
[09:36] <synd1> What's the best FS to format the partition to for Ubuntu?
[09:36] <wsjunior> synd1: ext3
[09:36] <synd1> wsjunior: Thanks
[09:37] <SonicChao> gnomefreak: ??? Why did you do that...?
[09:37] <gluttony> hi, i need help getting my sound to work, and my printer
[09:37] <xc_legend> i am having trouble with fetching updates in update manager can anyone help?
[09:37] <gnomefreak> SonicChao: avoiding a ban is a bad thing to do
[09:37] <SonicChao> gluttony: what printer is it?
[09:37] <hctibtipots> fuck
[09:37] <wsjunior> could anybody help me configuring my ati card? i just installed as in the wiki and now i still dont have 3d accel. how to solve it? fglrxinfo returns: Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!
[09:37] <tritium> double the action!
[09:38] <SonicChao> gnomefreak: Oh, it was Stork_, sorry didnt realize that
[09:38] <gnomefreak> ;)
[09:38] <ompaul> triple the ops
[09:38] <tritium> heh
[09:38] <gluttony> cannon pixima iP1600. when i run cups, it notices it, so i hit next, and it want me to pick the model, but its not there
[09:38] <SonicChao> gluttony: Sometimes, pick the one closest to it.
[09:38] <tritium> wb, ompaul
[09:38] <ompaul> re
[09:38] <cycom> ompaul: with what?
[09:38] <qualus> hmm.. shoudl i upgrade to dapper ?
[09:39] <SonicChao> gluttony: I have a HP PSC 1610 all-in-one printer...
[09:39] <qualus> what are your experiences of it ?
[09:39] <SonicChao> gluttony: but i use the HP PSC 1600 driver.
[09:39] <gluttony> i did, the pixima 4000 and it doesnt print
[09:39] <ompaul> cycom, people having to use ops
[09:39] <SonicChao> gluttony: Oh, ok, please say everything you tried next time. :)
[09:40] <t-thing_> qualus: if you'd like to. It has long term support but on the hand if you have perfectly fine running system, you might not want/need to.
[09:40] <tagz77> ok guys can i get a hand here, i have tried all the links that you all have been so kind to direct me too, but i am still unable to get my wireless connection to connect or get a signal
[09:40] <gluttony> oh ok
[09:40] <qualus> ah..
[09:40] <cycom> ompaul: meh.
[09:40] <gnomefreak> brb
[09:40] <qualus> hmm.. i'll take a backseat position for now then ^
[09:40] <tsume> gnomefreak: heh
[09:40] <ompaul> asizmaresal, stop nick change spamming
[09:40] <tsume> gnomefreak: you ban people for swearing?
[09:40] <asizmaresal> i didnt id ompaul
[09:41] <asizmaresal> i didnt i*t ompaul
[09:41] <tsume> gnomefreak: perhaps the person speaks like that daily, then its not wrong at all.
[09:41] <gnomefreak> tsume: read the coc
[09:41] <tritium> tsume: it is wrong in this channel, per our code of conduct
[09:41] <wsjunior> hey guys im using fglrx driver. glxinfo and fglrxinfo give the following error message: Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual. what could be happening?
[09:41] <t-thing_> qualus: I suggest that if you don't have a wireless card and you have extra time and knowledge, you might try upgrading. You get newer software and the LTS.
[09:41] <tritium> Our rules aren't relative
[09:41] <tagz77> ok guys can i get a hand here, i have tried all the links that you all have been so kind to direct me too, but i am still unable to get my wireless connection to connect or get a signal
[09:41] <tsume> tritium: I think it needs to change then, I've evaded tons of times. Just ignore swears unless they become a problem and you have a happier channel
[09:42] <tritium> gnomefreak: dude, pick a nick
[09:42] <tritium> tsume: nope, can't do that.
[09:42] <qualus> ads of BT-devices.. no wifi's tho
[09:42] <qualus> hmm
[09:42] <qualus> something's wrong with me client O_o
[09:42] <gluttony> ok, so, what do you suggest i try now
[09:43] <tagz77> any1 wanna help me???
[09:43] <tsume> tritium: sure ya can ;) I make racist jokes when talking about things like french wars irl and on irc, people know its a regional thing, they have to ACCEPT the fact there are people all over the world in the room, and not be offended
[09:43] <qualus> anyways, t-thing_ i'll try it when i get the time..
[09:43] <qualus> heh
[09:43] <t-thing_> qualus: np
[09:43] <tritium> tsume: that's not appropriate here.  Don't suggest it any more.
[09:43] <qualus> hmm.. beer ->
[09:43] <tailsfan> Where can I get alsaconf
[09:43] <qualus> ^^
[09:43] <tsume> tritium: fine, I'll have a talk to whats his name :P
[09:44] <tritium> tsume: who would that be?
[09:44] <ardchoille> I have an idea. When in this channel, abide by the coc or leave. Argue with the ops in PM please.
[09:44] <tritium> good point, ardchoille
[09:44] <tsume> tritium: the one who laughed at my bug report on ubuntu. :) Ubuntu being a specicist work and all of us button pushing monkies feel offended :P
[09:45] <tritium> *sigh*
[09:45] <tsume> tritium: :D did you read the bug, it waws about 1.5 years ago :)
[09:45] <crimsun> tritium: see what I mean now?
[09:45] <sharms> !offtopic
[09:45] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:45] <ompaul> tsume, you were asked to take it private - please do
[09:45] <rcsolutions> Is there a portuguese Ubuntu channel?
[09:45] <tritium> crimsun: yes, I do
[09:45] <ompaul> !pt
[09:45] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:46] <wsjunior> rcsolutions: brazilian?
[09:46] <tagz77> any one wanna help or are you all having too much fun arguing over stupis sh*t???
[09:46] <rcsolutions> yes
[09:46] <rcsolutions> thank you
[09:46] <infamy> is there a channel just for ubuntu server?
[09:46] <gluttony> ok, apprently my helper is gone
[09:46] <wsjunior> rcsolutions: ubuntu-br
[09:46] <sharms> gluttony: whats your question?
[09:46] <wsjunior> is there any channel for ati related problems with ubuntu?
[09:46] <wsjunior> :)
[09:46] <gluttony> about setting up printer in cups
[09:46] <ompaul> !ati > wsjunior
[09:46] <Seveas> wsjunior, right here
[09:46] <tsume> :( silence then, I don't see what a privy has to do with it or I missed it completely
[09:46] <sharms> infamy: #ubuntu-server
[09:46] <wsjunior> hey guys im using fglrx driver. glxinfo and fglrxinfo give the following error message: Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual. what could be happening?
[09:47] <gluttony> i ran cups, and i cant find the model
[09:47] <Seveas> wsjunior, error in your X config
[09:47] <gneral> gstreamer.jack ? jack, packet extension?
[09:47] <sharms> gluttony: tried a forum search for your printer model?
[09:47] <wsjunior> Seveas: could u help me to solve it?
[09:47] <wsjunior> ompaul: i did that
[09:47] <Seveas> wsjunior, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:47] <ompaul> wsjunior, restart it with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:47] <infamy> sharms: thanks :)
[09:47] <ompaul> ahh
[09:47] <zgat> any1 care to help with my wireless problem???
[09:47] <Seveas> ompaul, too slow :
[09:47] <ompaul> Seveas, too many words :)
[09:48] <gluttony> what forum?
[09:48] <sharms> !tell zgat about anyone
[09:48] <rcsolutions> Hey guys, how do I change the "GRUB" ? The option Windows XP just disappeared!
[09:48] <tsume> ompaul: do you know how I can get a bulk order of the cds next time?
[09:48] <sharms> gluttony: www.ubuntuforums.org
[09:48] <tsume> ompaul: I don't like having to order multiple times
[09:48] <Seveas> !grub > rcsolutions
[09:48] <sharms> rcsolutions: the configuration file is in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:48] <Commander-Crowe> I'm installing VLC
[09:48] <nico_> hey peepz...what's up!
[09:48] <tsume> ompaul: I have them all away already in a couple weeks
[09:48] <zgat> i am unable to connect to my wireless connection...any ideas???
[09:48] <Commander-Crowe> and i get error
[09:49] <sharms> !tell zgat about wireless
[09:49] <Commander-Crowe> "error: missing header files ffmpeg/avcodec.h
[09:49] <scotty> hi all
[09:49] <zgat> sharms: i have read all that and tried it, still cant get it to werk...
[09:49] <crimsun> Commander-Crowe: sudo apt-get build-dep vlc
[09:49] <ardchoille> Hawk|-:
[09:49] <sharms> zgat: is it an encrypted connection?
[09:49] <ompaul> tsume, you had one question if you had left it at that then I would have answered already - please don't use enter as punctuation mark thanks - contact shipit@ubuntu.com
[09:49] <scotty> did any1 have trouble installing java on ubuntu ?
[09:50] <SonicChao> I need a program to choose Hexadecimal Colors...does anyone know of one in Ubuntu?
[09:50] <zgat> sharms:no it is not i removed the encryption
[09:50] <sharms> scotty: installed flawlessly
[09:50] <tritium> scotty: in dapper, it has gotten easier.  Need some help?
[09:50] <tsume> ompaul: I was thinking on-the-fly :)
[09:50] <Commander-Crowe> can't do apt-get no internet
[09:50] <sharms> zgat: does the router act as a dhcp server, have mac address protection disabled, and your client set to obtain address automatically?
[09:50] <ardchoille> SonicChao: gcolor2 ?
[09:50] <gnomefreak> tsume: little advice i dont think getting cds from shipit atm is a great idea
[09:51] <SonicChao> ardchoille: How would i download that?
[09:51] <scotty> tritium yeah i need help lol im new
[09:51] <gnomefreak> seeing as that bug with the live installer not working
[09:51] <tsume> gnomefreak: is there something wrong with the cds they sent me?
[09:51] <tritium> !java > scotty
[09:51] <zgat> sharms: yes it is, i cant even connect to the router from this pc....wlan0 has no signal
[09:51] <SonicChao> tsume: it takes forever
[09:51] <wsjunior> still the same error
[09:51] <tsume> gnomefreak: the installer worked for me on several computers...
[09:51] <tritium> scotty: if that's not enough help, feel free to bug me for more
[09:51] <kinematic> @gnomefreak:why isn't it?
[09:51] <gnomefreak> tsume: non of my 25 work
[09:51] <sharms> zgat: move the router closer and try again
[09:51] <wsjunior> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[09:51] <gnomefreak> none
[09:51] <SonicChao> ardchoille: sudo apt-get install gcolor2 ????????
[09:51] <wsjunior> how to solve it?
[09:51] <scotty> ok tyvm
[09:51] <ardchoille> SonicChao: gcolor2 is in universe
[09:52] <Commander-Crowe> crimsun: no internet
[09:52] <gnomefreak> and well theres what like 50 bugs on the live installer :(
[09:52] <ardchoille> SonicChao: yes, if you have universe enabled.
[09:52] <SonicChao> ardchoille: its okay...I have universe and Multiverse enabled :)
[09:52] <zgat> sharms: the router is 2 feet away already
[09:52] <tsume> gnomefreak: oh boy :) wel I guess I installed from one of the cds I downloaded.
[09:52] <tritium> scotty: summary is 1) enable multiverse repository, 2) install sun-java5-jre (or whichever pcakage you need)
[09:52] <sharms> zgat: is it broadcasting its ssid?
[09:52] <gluttony> i dont see a printer forum
[09:52] <ardchoille> SonicChao: I really can't work without that much needed app :)
[09:52] <tsume> gnomefreak: right, the bug I cought personally was the gpart bug when I clicked back, the gpart disengaged from the installer and appeared in a separate window :)
[09:52] <ompaul> gluttony, what printer is it?
[09:52] <tsume> gnomefreak: overall however, its more decent then any other distro available
[09:53] <gnomefreak> i never saw that one lol
[09:53] <sharms> printer support is fickle right now
[09:53] <zgat> sharms: yes, i have a windows machine connected wirelessy as we speak
[09:53] <gluttony> cannon pixima iP1600
[09:53] <crimsun> Commander-Crowe: are you just trying to install it, or are you trying to build it?
[09:53] <wsjunior> how could i make sure that im using fglrx driver?
[09:53] <SonicChao> ardchoille: ok thanks
[09:53] <Commander-Crowe> um
[09:53] <Commander-Crowe> install
[09:53] <ardchoille> SonicChao: You're welcome :)
[09:53] <Commander-Crowe> with compiliing
[09:53] <sharms> zgat: and where do you get the impression there isn't a signal in linux? what application tells you this?
[09:53] <tsume> gnomefreak: you bugfix for a living?
[09:53] <crimsun> Commander-Crowe: so you're trying to compile it?
[09:53] <Commander-Crowe> because I have Ubuntu 6.06 64-bit version
[09:53] <Commander-Crowe> crimsun: yes
[09:53] <sharms> tsume: he is a devel
[09:53] <hammady> hi
[09:53] <tritium> wsjunior: grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:54] <crimsun> Commander-Crowe: vlc is available for amd64, too.
[09:54] <sombrerrance> bsoir all
[09:54] <Commander-Crowe> :)
[09:54] <zgat> sharms: i added network monitor to my panel, and there it sez no signal
[09:54] <Commander-Crowe> where?
[09:54] <tsume> sharms: oh heh. :) Would be a fun job then. :)
[09:54] <wsjunior> tritium:  Driver          "fglrx"
[09:54] <crimsun> Commander-Crowe: in the universe repository.
[09:54] <gnomefreak> tsume: nope but i do play in launchpad/malone triage bugs and give feedback when i can
[09:54] <wsjunior> tritium: how to enable 3d?
[09:54] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[09:54] <tritium> wsjunior: okay, X is using it
[09:54] <gnomefreak> ok back on topic please
[09:54] <sharms> zgat: I am going to say it is near 100% chance you just misconfigured it
[09:54] <crimsun> Commander-Crowe: if you don't have an Internet connection, you need to download it and all its dependencies from http://packages.ubuntu.com/vlc
[09:54] <tsume> gnomefreak: talking about ubuntu bugs isn't on topic? ;)
[09:55] <tritium> wsjunior: not sure what problems you're encountering
[09:55] <wsjunior> tritium: glxinfo returns:  Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[09:55] <sharms> zgat: I can't be there to help you through this, but I would give the advise of try out network-manager
[09:55] <ompaul> gluttony, the only thing I can suggest is if you have a driver for linux for it ask canon for a driver from their site or try the 6000 version that is similar to your setup
[09:55] <crimsun> Commander-Crowe: make sure you choose the appropriate version for dapper and your architecture
[09:55] <SimzI> how do i change metacity themes
[09:55] <sharms> zgat: it is a little more automated
[09:55] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: hahahaha
[09:55] <sharms> !tell zgat about network-manager
[09:55] <gnomefreak> tsume: thats a hard call since there is a bug channel
[09:55] <wsjunior> tritium: fglrxinfo returns the same message
[09:55] <tsume> gnomefreak: oh.
[09:55] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[09:55] <wsjunior> tritium: Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[09:55] <gnomefreak> wsjunior: on dapper or edgy?
[09:55] <wsjunior> tritium: and yes, there is load "dri" at xorg.conf
[09:55] <zgat> sharms: how do i go about checking and correcting???
[09:56] <tritium> wsjunior: not sure.  I don't have ati hardare at the moment to check
[09:56] <wsjunior> gnomefreak: dapper
[09:56] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[09:56] <wsjunior> gnomefreak: could u help me?
[09:56] <tsume> gnomefreak: say.. would you know of there is a technical talk channel for people who are as informed as I am on unix? Kinda like how talks go in #freebsd and #openbsd?
[09:56] <wsjunior> gnomefreak: should i try edgy?
[09:56] <UbuntuNewbie> My upgrade from Breezy to Dapper has failed with the following error message: "Could not install the upgrades. The upgrade aborts now. Your system can be in an unusable state. A recovery was run (dpkg --configure -a). installArchives() failed." What do I do?
[09:56] <gnomefreak> wsjunior: not with ati i still never got neither of my ati card working right bought nvidia
[09:56] <gnomefreak> wsjunior: hell no
[09:56] <sharms> zgat: either keep asking here about your configuration and have someone else help you, or else try network-manager
[09:56] <tritium> tsume: #ego ;)
[09:57] <tsume> tritium: grr
[09:57] <chapium> Does anyone know how to make the gnome menu load properly after you log in?  My first click it never works.  Its driving me batty.. slowly and gradually
[09:57] <gnomefreak> wsjunior: you commented in #ubuntu+1 thats why i asked you what version
[09:57] <gluttony> ompaul, i dont see the 6000 one
[09:57] <zgat> i have both my ati cards werking fine...
[09:57] <ompaul> gluttony, are you using dapper?
[09:57] <tsume> tritium: I mean some real talks, like the architecture of AFS, advanced clustering techniques, threading methodology, etc.
[09:57] <gnomefreak> UbuntuNewbie: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:57] <ompaul> tsume, guess #hardware
[09:57] <gluttony> thats 6.06 right?
[09:57] <sharms> zgat: I thought this was a wireless network issue, not a graphics card issue.
[09:57] <UbuntuNewbie> gnomefreak: okay, will do ... then what?
[09:58] <ompaul> tsume, and your offtopic for here
[09:58] <zgat> it is sharms
[09:58] <gnomefreak> UbuntuNewbie: dont know lets see if it fixes anything
[09:58] <sharms> !tell tsume about offtopic
[09:58] <harry666> i have troubles installing 6.06 server with a compaq smartarray controller
[09:58] <UbuntuNewbie> gnomefreak: okay ... running it.
[09:58] <sharms> zgat: I don't see how ATI fits into your network problems.
[09:58] <zgat> nm
[09:58] <ardchoille> tsume: if there isn't a channel that meets your desires, you can always create one and have lilo do a wallops for it.
[09:58] <loko555> i cannot control the volume of a sound played by flash, how can i solve this problem? i have intel hda
[09:58] <gnomefreak> UbuntuNewbie: let me know if it does anything
[09:59] <tsume> ardchoille: yeah well, that would attract kids :|
[09:59] <tritium> tsume: "real" means something different to different people
[09:59] <UbuntuNewbie> gnomefreak - it shows errors setting up: tetex-base, tetex-bin, tetex-extra, and kile, all of which I had previously installed after having backported them to Breezy.
[09:59] <Syco54645> who does vidilife.com not work ever since i updated to dapper.  it is a site to watch streaming videos.
[10:00] <gnomefreak> UbuntuNewbie: did it stop at that?
[10:00] <tsume> tritium, sharms: I'll just sit in #ubuntu-server for a while and see if there are any intelligent admins there for decent discussion :)
[10:00] <UbuntuNewbie> gnomefreak, yes, it stopped there.
[10:00] <sharms> tsume: If you actually wanted to have intelligent conversation, then it should be intuitive that you would have that conversation on channels relevant to the discussion.
[10:00] <tsume> sharms: well its server stuff :) I wasn't aware there was a -server channel.
[10:01] <scotty> tritium
[10:01] <Sasquatch> This is a stupid question but how do you get access to su in ubuntu?
[10:01] <Syco54645> what player should i get for firefox?
[10:01] <tritium> what's up, scotty ?
[10:01] <sharms> Sasquatch - use sudo
[10:01] <loko555> any idea if pcm-volume-control does not work while surfing on flash-websites with sound?
[10:01] <ardchoille> Sasquatch: sudo su
[10:01] <sharms> !tell Sasquatch about sudo
[10:01] <gnomefreak> UbuntuNewbie: ok try removing those packages and than running sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:01] <tritium> ardchoille: sudo -i would be preferable
[10:01] <UbuntuNewbie> gnomefreak - will do -
[10:01] <sharms> We went over this with Sasquatch yesterday I believe
[10:01] <ompaul> ardchoille, comeon it is !rootsudo - don't tell people about that - that is wrong
[10:02] <scotty> gedit has not been able to detect the character coding.
[10:02] <ardchoille> tritium: ahh, ok.. thank you for that.. adding it to my wiki  :)
[10:02] <scotty> Please check that you are not trying to open a binary file.
[10:02] <scotty> Select a character coding from the menu and try again.
[10:02] <Sasquatch> sharms:  nah, you went over GRUB
[10:02] <zgat> network manager is showing no wireless connection on it
[10:02] <sharms> ah close :)
[10:02] <gluttony> ok, the canon site only has windows and mac drivers
[10:02] <Sasquatch> :-)
[10:02] <tritium> ardchoille: :)
[10:02] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: i did end up adding an alias section tot hat site not near done though
[10:02] <Sasquatch> now that i finally have ubuntu loaded...
[10:02] <sharms> zgat: disable the network interface in the ubuntu config
[10:02] <ljlolel> !rootsudo
[10:02] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:02] <gnomefreak> ok i gotta get dinner started be back after dinner
[10:02] <sharms> zgat: network-manager won't use it if ubuntu is using it
[10:02] <tritium> see you later, gnomefreak
[10:02] <zgat> ok how do i disable it???
[10:02] <meheren> how do i change my keyboard layout to dvorak?
[10:02] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: Yeah? Cool.. I'll visit today :)
[10:02] <sharms> gnomefreak: OT but whats your current karma?
[10:03] <shachaf> zgat: Comment out the lines in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:03] <shachaf> zgat: Or run network-admin
[10:03] <gnomefreak> sharms: 3000 something
[10:03] <shachaf> zgat: And uncheck "enable this device"
[10:03] <sharms> gnomefreak: I am gonna catch up ;)
[10:03] <ardchoille> ompaul: Please don't yell at me.. I simply answered his question. If you want to yell at me please do it in PM.
[10:04] <UbuntuNewbie> gnomefreak: after removing those packages sudo dpkg --configure -a runs with no errors
[10:04] <meheren> how do i change my keyboard layout to dvorak?
[10:04] <scotty> i get this error when trying to open the linux java
[10:04] <scotty> gedit has not been able to detect the character coding.
[10:04] <scotty> Please check that you are not trying to open a binary file.
[10:04] <scotty> Select a character coding from the menu and try again.
[10:05] <chapium> meheren: system->preferences-keyboard->layouts
[10:05] <meheren> chapiumw kjx :)
[10:05] <ompaul> scotty, please dont paste use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:06] <meheren> chapium: undr xfce?
[10:06] <UbuntuNewbie> gnomefreak - I am a bit of a newbie ... does dpkg --configure -a running without error mean that the upgrade is OK now?
[10:06] <Hexidigital> how can i set fluxbox as my default gui? i am running a LAMP server, but i need a small GUI, and i cannot get "startfluxbox" to work w/o starting X (which loads GDM)
[10:07] <tritium> scotty: try to verbally describe the problem (briefly), and not paste.  Thanks, my friend.  :)
[10:07] <dr_willis> Hexidigital,  somthing you just said seems wring..
[10:07] <dr_willis> wrong.
[10:07] <Hexidigital> dr_willis: i know... server and GUI do not go together
[10:07] <scotty> i get that text when i try open the linux java file
[10:07] <scotty> the 1 i pastedf
[10:07] <linux_user400354> how can i use lvm in ubuntu? does the 5.10 have lvm?
[10:07] <dr_willis> Hexidigital,  you tried eding/making a .xinitrc and  having it load fluxbox ?
[10:08] <Hexidigital> dr_willis: nope... i missed the obvious fix... brb
[10:08] <btrento> could someone help me with a fglrx problem i am having
[10:08] <walkover> Hey! does anyone know some bluetooth hijacking software for linux?
[10:08] <dr_willis> Hexidigital,  i dont see how startfluxbox starts up gdm :P
[10:08] <gluttony> ompaul, you still here?
[10:08] <ompaul> gluttony, I think so :-)
[10:08] <Hexidigital> dr_willis: no... startfluxbox needs me to load X first, but i "startx" and GDM auto loads
[10:08] <tritium> linux_user400354: it does have it
[10:09] <gluttony> ompaul,the canon site only has windows and mac drivers
[10:09] <tritium> scotty: what linux java file?
[10:09] <Sasquatch> more stupid questions from a linux newb: how do you compile a program?
[10:09] <Hexidigital> dr_willis: where do i create an .xinitrc?
[10:09] <scotty> jre-1_5_0_07-linux-1586.bin
[10:09] <walkover> Hey! does anyone know some bluetooth hijacking software for linux?
[10:09] <dr_willis> Hexidigital,  startx should not start up gdm. it should start whats in the .xinitrc file or tye system wide xinitrc.   sounds like ya can just put startfluxbox in your .xinitrc make one in your home dir
[10:09] <tritium> scotty: remember my summary?  install the ubuntu package, don't use the .bin
[10:09] <Hexidigital> dr_willis: thx
[10:10] <scotty> howd i get the package
[10:10] <tritium> walkover: don't ask that here, dude
[10:10] <walkover> why
[10:10] <ompaul> gluttony, I have no other suggestions for you other than to check on the cups website for the status of your printer maybe you can get something there for it
[10:10] <tritium> walkover: we stick to legal and ethical behavior here
[10:10] <ompaul> walkover, hacking software / methods are not for discussion in #ubuntu or freenode.net
[10:10] <dr_willis> plus its not really a Ubuntu support question.
[10:10] <walkover> well it is legal but ethical ... maybe not
[10:11] <ompaul> dr_willis, ++
[10:11] <walkover> ill find another channel
[10:11] <dr_willis> :)
[10:11] <dr_willis> Yes you will.. :P
[10:11] <scotty> tritium where do i download the ubuntu package ?
[10:11] <Gullstad> What is the extract *.tar command?
[10:11] <UbuntuNewbie> gnomefreak - are you still here ?
[10:11] <ompaul> Gullstad, tar xvf foo.tar
[10:12] <tritium> scotty: from the multiverse repository, via apt-get
[10:12] <linux_user400354> gullstad, tar xf archive.tar
[10:13] <ompaul> freaks, may I pm you?
[10:13] <boxgamex__> hey, since ndiswrapper is includuded in dapper, can i just apt-get the utils and use the grphical interface to add a driver?
[10:13] <scotty> lol i only got ubuntu today any easyer way you can say that lol
[10:13] <ompaul> !multiverse > scotty
[10:13] <ompaul> scotty, have a look at the url from the bot ubotu
[10:14] <nathansnook> can someone tell me what the current kernel release is for ubuntu 6.06 is
[10:14] <boxgamex__> !wireless
[10:14] <ubotu> wifi is Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[10:14] <ompaul> nathansnook,  2.6.15-25
[10:14] <Hexidigital> dr_willis: my xinitrc file just has ./etc/X11/Xsession.... do i just add fluxbox somewhere?
[10:14] <UbuntuNewbie> Hmm ... anyone: I upgraded from Breezy to Dapper. The upgrade failed with the error message "Could not install the upgrades.  The upgrade aborts now. Your system can be in an unusable state. A recovery was run (dpkg --configure -a)." I ran sudo dpkg --configure -a and it showed that tetex and kile could not be configured properly. I removed tetex and kile using Synaptic and ran dpkg --configure -a again, and this time it did not 
[10:15] <UbuntuNewbie> I seem to be missing some software that was formerly there ... xchat, for example
[10:15] <nathansnook> ompaul: Is ubuntu going to use 2.7.x?
[10:15] <tritium> UbuntuNewbie: please try sudo apt-get -f install
[10:15] <Bassetts> can anyone recommend a good game to pass some time, not too in depth but not one you get bored of easy
[10:15] <UbuntuNewbie> tritium, thanks ...
[10:16] <UbuntuNewbie> tritium, what does that do, please?
[10:16] <dr_willis> Hexidigital,  thats the system wide one. read what it does/reads - it proberly loads some config files.. OR make a .xinitrc in your home dir.
[10:16] <tritium> UbuntuNewbie: -f is the same as --fix-broken
[10:16] <Hexidigital> Bassetts: neverball / neverputt
[10:16] <Bassetts> ok :)
[10:16] <UbuntuNewbie> tritium, thanks again. running it ...
[10:17] <dr_willis> Hexidigital,  example .xinitrc 2 lines... xterm &   exec fluxbox
[10:17] <ompaul> nathansnook, I doubt it it will use 2.8 when it is in the debian tree :-)
[10:17] <tritium> UbuntuNewbie: good luck
[10:17] <gavagai> the only game i play is counterstrike.  so addictive.  i can't stop.
[10:17] <Hexidigital> dr_willis: thx again :)
[10:17] <UbuntuNewbie> tritium: it completes as follows ... 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
[10:17] <Bassetts> Hexidigital: that like marble madness?
[10:17] <dr_willis> Hexidigital,  ya could read the Xsession and see what their sample does fora default
[10:17] <colk> question how do you tell what cd a ubantu cd is
[10:17] <colk> without booting from it
[10:17] <tritium> UbuntuNewbie: now try sudo dpkg --configure --pending
[10:17] <Hexidigital> Bassetts: yes
[10:18] <Hexidigital> Bassetts: neverputt is like putt putt golf
[10:18] <nathansnook> ompaul: so 2.7 would be unstable and 2.8 would be stable?
[10:18] <UbuntuNewbie> tritium, sudo dpkg --configure --pending completes with no message
[10:18] <chapium> i really hope the gnome menu gets fixed, its currently an annoyance
[10:18] <Bassetts> Hexidigital: cool, i shall look into them, need something to do while i have a quiet patch at work
[10:18] <Hexidigital> Bassetts: enjoy!
[10:18] <tritium> UbuntuNewbie: okay, so what does sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade do?
[10:18] <Bassetts> Hexidigital: thanks, i will
[10:19] <UbuntuNewbie> tritium -- upgrade? or dist-upgrade?
[10:20] <speedsix> Hi, I'm trying to setup an NFS server but when I apt-get nfs-kernel-common it says 'starting rpc nfsd    failed' any ideas? I have tried to reinstall 'portmap' but I cant because it won;t stop running??
[10:20] <tritium> UbuntuNewbie: try upgrade for now
[10:20] <boxgamex__> can someone help me find the inf file for my wireless card? wg111v2
[10:20] <dr_willis> !nfs
[10:20] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[10:20] <Fredzilla> Hello, I am having trouble installing ubuntu, I'm trying to find downloadable Install Floppys.  Either that or a way to creat install floppys.  By install floppies, I mean a floppy that will get the install for Ubuntu on the cd to run.
[10:20] <UbuntuNewbie> tritium, it complains, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable), unable to lock the list directory
[10:20] <ompaul> nathansnook, yeap
[10:21] <tritium> UbuntuNewbie: are you running synaptic?
[10:21] <Hexidigital> dr_willis: you are great! all i did was delete /etc/X11/Xsession and type xterm & exec fluxbox, and it works! thanks
[10:21] <UbuntuNewbie> tritium - no, but I still have the upgrade tool open, because I wanted to hang onto the terminal display
[10:21] <ompaul> SimzI, you have a pm
[10:21] <Ragnaroek> Hello
[10:21] <eucalre> Hello
[10:22] <tritium> UbuntuNewbie: ah, that's the cause
[10:22] <dr_willis> Hexidigital,  does it pop up a xterm as well? :P
[10:22] <speedsix> Anyone any suggestions why 'rpc nfsd' is failing to start?
[10:22] <UbuntuNewbie> tritium - okay, closed it ... it's running
[10:22] <lens> Fredzilla... Won't it just boot off your install CD?
[10:22] <tritium> UbuntuNewbie: ok
[10:22] <dr_willis> Hexidigital,  ya could try just using 'startfluxbox'
[10:23] <tritium> gnomefreak: there should be karma for opping
[10:23] <UbuntuNewbie> tritium - it completes with everything done, done, and done, except for this: The following packages have been kept back:
[10:23] <UbuntuNewbie>   encfs gcj libgcj-dev libkrb5-17-heimdal tidy
[10:23] <Hexidigital> dr_willis: hmm... not sure what it did :) brb
[10:23] <Beawolfe> Looking for some help trying to get the Grub Loader back after a HD crash on Windows side
[10:23] <UbuntuNewbie> Those are the 5 packages not upgraded
[10:23] <Fredzilla> Yes lens, my cd wont boot off the install CD.
[10:23] <dr_willis> Hexidigital,  my guess 'startfluxbox' setups and installs a few extra support programs as well
[10:23] <Maze_of_Torment> Fredzilla : go into your bios
[10:24] <Maze_of_Torment> then boot that option from there
[10:24] <Fredzilla> Yes Maze?
[10:24] <Maze_of_Torment> in your bios you have an option to boot from hard drive or cd
[10:24] <meheren> how do i change the system wide keymap?
[10:24] <Ragnaroek> private
[10:24] <tritium> UbuntuNewbie: not do the dist-upgrade
[10:25] <Hexidigital> dr_willis: works like a charm now! thank you very much
[10:25] <UbuntuNewbie> tritium - "now do" dist-upgrade? or "not do"?
[10:25] <meheren> what file do i edit? and how to get everything to use the dvorak keyboard layout
[10:25] <Fredzilla> Maze,  thank you, I have set my first boot option to CD; but for some reason I get an error.  I can read the Install CD in Windows, all the files seem to be there.  I'm not sure what's wrong.
[10:25] <tritium> UbuntuNewbie: _now_ do
[10:25] <UbuntuNewbie> tritium :) - will do
[10:25] <Hexidigital> have a great day everyone
[10:25] <Maze_of_Torment> are you wanting a fresh install of ubuntu or a dual boot
[10:26] <zgat> ok who wants to walk me through setting up a wireless connection???
[10:26] <Maze_of_Torment> i did a fresh install and got rid of windows
[10:26] <Fredzilla> I'm trying to do a fresh install  (on a different Hard Drive)
[10:26] <dr_willis> zgat,  good luck on that.. if ya got the drivers and stuff working  - that "network manager' tool does a decent job
[10:26] <dr_willis> !network-manager
[10:26] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[10:27] <UbuntuNewbie> tritium - it's upgrading  gcj and libgcj-dev ... and ... seems to be done now
[10:27] <zgat> see i dont know if i have the rite drivers
[10:27] <speedsix> Anyone any suggestions why 'rpc nfsd' is failing to start?
[10:27] <meheren> how do i change my system wide keymap to dvorak?
[10:27] <tritium> UbuntuNewbie: okay.  And now your tetex packages are still removed?
[10:28] <Maze_of_Torment> Fredzilla : i'm new to this as well , was just trying to help a bit........someone else here should know about that sorry
[10:28] <boxgamex__> damnit what the path for the desktop
[10:28] <boxgamex__> lol
[10:28] <tritium> boxgamex__: chill out
[10:28] <boxgamex__> lol. im not mad
[10:28] <UbuntuNewbie> tritium, yes, still removed ...
[10:28] <tritium> UbuntuNewbie: try installing them now, please
[10:28] <lassegs> hi. when you play wolfenstein enemy territory on ubuntu you cant play with linux players, or am I wrong?
[10:28] <dr_willis> box ugh../home/Username/ Desktop
[10:28] <meheren> oxgamex__, /home/your username/Desktop
[10:28] <UbuntuNewbie> tritium - okay, installing using Synaptic
[10:28] <Fredzilla> Thank you Maze_of_Torment.  I appriciate it
[10:28] <dr_willis> its soo Well Hidden~ :P
[10:29] <dr_willis> lassegs,  ET: for linux works for all servers/clients/
[10:29] <Maze_of_Torment> yw
[10:29] <meheren> how do i change my system wide keymap to dvorak?
[10:29] <lassegs> dr_willis,  ok thx
[10:29] <UbuntuNewbie> tritium - these are big packages, as I recall; this may take a few mins.
[10:30] <tritium> UbuntuNewbie: yes
[10:30] <scotty> tritium is there a package with java in ?
[10:30] <tritium> scotty: yes, I mentioned that earlier
[10:30] <chapium> is it normal for ubuntu to be running three schedulers?  I see anacron, atd, and cron all running
[10:31] <scotty> how do i get
[10:31] <scotty> did u say multiverse ?
[10:31] <tritium> yes, scotty
[10:31] <tritium> !multiverse
[10:31] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:31] <lens> Fredzilla:  what about your filesystem?
[10:31] <Gareth^> chapium, that is the default - you of course do not need all of them (or any of them if you do not use scheduled tasks)
[10:31] <unstablesob> meheren, dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[10:31] <gdb> meheren: This may have some information that's useful -> http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/unix.html
[10:31] <meheren> unstablesob:that's it?
[10:31] <shadowpanda> is there anyone here familiar with WINE?
[10:32] <lens> Fredzilla: I remember when I messed with that linux and NTFS wouldn't work together.
[10:32] <unstablesob> meheren, yes, 20 seconds on google found the right command
[10:32] <gdb> chapium: That's normal.
[10:32] <lens> Fredzilla: *shrugs* not sure though.
[10:32] <scotty> wer do i download the packages
[10:32] <Maze_of_Torment> that is why i got rid of windows lol
[10:32] <Fredzilla> Lens, my file system on my wiindows HD is NTFS, and I don't have a file system layed down on my other HD yet.  Is there a file system I should lay down before installing Ubuntu?
[10:32] <icaroxx> help me ,,whit my asus v7700 in breazy
[10:32] <icaroxx> :9
[10:33] <Beawolfe> Can I get any kinda help trying to get Grub Loader back Please?
[10:33] <meheren> unstablesob: after running command do i have to reboot?
[10:33] <mjr> Fredzilla, no, ubuntu installation will create a suitable filesystem
[10:33] <lens> Fredzilla: I think you need a ext3 formatted HD or maybe FAT, Ihrmm.
[10:34] <sharms> if my hostname is incorrect, is there any way to make sudo work? sudo: unable to lookup bobvila via gethostbyname()
[10:34] <gneral> http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3281/ekrangoruntusu34gh.png -> no processing about ~20 min. not yet erased ? why ? who man can help to me?
[10:34] <Fredzilla> Thank you mjr.  Are there boot floppies that can be made for Ubuntu?
[10:35] <mjr> well, you can make a boot floppy, but that'd be a manual operation
[10:35] <mjr> or do you mean boot the installation off a floppy?
[10:35] <boxgamex__> can someone help me with my ndiswrapper problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17647
[10:35] <UbuntuNewbie> tritium - okay ... problems here with setting up tetex-bin. There is a step in which it runs fmtutil-sys, and this step fails:
[10:35] <UbuntuNewbie> Error `pdfetx-ini  -jobname=latex -progname=latex -translate-file=cp227.tcx *latex.ini failed
[10:35] <UbuntuNewbie> Error `pdfetx-ini  -jobname=latex -progname=latex -translate-file=cp227.tcx *pdflatex.ini failed
[10:36] <Fredzilla> Yes mjr, that's what I mean.  How do I do that?
[10:36] <UbuntuNewbie> Since tetex-bin doesn't get installed, dependency problems prevent tetex-extra (and kile) from being installed
[10:36] <lens> Fredzilla, mjr... why wouldn't it just run off his Ubuntu CD?
[10:36] <BlindTech> hello
[10:36] <Maze_of_Torment> Fredzilla : did you burn an iso?
[10:37] <BlindTech> I am atempting to start or really, install ubuntu
[10:37] <tritium> UbuntuNewbie: wow, that hasn't happened on other installs I've sen
[10:37] <mjr> lens, dunno, old hardware?
[10:37] <BlindTech> it won't get past the boot screen though
[10:37] <lens> mrj... weird.
[10:37] <gneral> http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3281/ekrangoruntusu34gh.png -> no processing about ~20 min. not yet erased ? i need help , really. i cant update ubuntu
[10:37] <BlindTech> I have tried starting in safe graphics mode
[10:37] <BlindTech> and nothing
[10:37] <colk> lol my brother finally got pissed off at windows enough to try linux
[10:37] <mjr> Fredzilla, I think there's a boot floppy image in on the cdrom which you can write to a floppy. Not sure though. You can't boot off the CD directly?
[10:37] <Fredzilla> Yes Maze_of_Torment.  and I can run it as a Live CD; I just can't install for some reason.
[10:37] <BlindTech> cd spins up for about 2 secs after hittting enter and then nothing
[10:38] <UbuntuNewbie> tritium ... I'll need to get tetex running ... but first I need to be sure that the upgrade to Dapper basically is okay (except for tetex)
[10:38] <raptros-v76> BlindTech: boot the disk checker
[10:38] <speedsix> anyone help me with a problem with one of the NFS daemons failing to start?
[10:38] <mjr> Fredzilla, ah, ok, don't crave for boot floppies then, not the answer
[10:38] <Fredzilla> right mjr, for some reason I can't boot off the CD directly.
[10:38] <raptros-v76> BlindTech: your disk might not have been burnt properly
[10:38] <zool2005> does anyone have any experience with wengo?
[10:38] <mjr> Fredzilla, you just said you could.
[10:38] <tritium> UbuntuNewbie: your upgrade went fine, it would seem
[10:38] <Maze_of_Torment> Fredzilla: did you click install on the live cd when it loads up
[10:38] <UbuntuNewbie> tritium - okay ... I'm going to try restarting the box
[10:39] <UbuntuNewbie> Keeping my fingers crossed ... :)
[10:39] <lens> Maze_of_Torment:... yeah, maybe he just didn't type install.
[10:39] <scotty> tritium did you help make ubuntu ?
[10:39] <Fredzilla> If I do, then it wants to install over my windows HD mjr.
[10:39] <tritium> scotty: only in very minor ways
[10:39] <Maze_of_Torment> Fredzilla : it ask you how you want to install it
[10:40] <Fredzilla> oh?
[10:40] <Maze_of_Torment> Fredzilla: it gives you partition ops as well
[10:40] <mjr> Fredzilla, you don't have to accept it even if it offers it as default
[10:40] <scotty> how do i download packages im confused
[10:40] <meheren> hmm
[10:40] <Fredzilla> Ok, that's a relief!
[10:40] <BlindTech> sorry if i am slow at answering but a computer reads the irc window to me
[10:40] <meheren> sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data didn't work
[10:40] <BlindTech> but.... how do you run the cd checker?
[10:41] <ClayG> how can i make my system automount drives, usb keys, etc?
[10:41] <raptros-v76> BlindTech: when you booting from the disk, theres a boot option
[10:41] <raptros-v76> BlindTech: you are booting from a disk, right?
[10:42] <BlindTech> ok, is it when you press f6?
[10:42] <alpa> Italy won world cup
[10:42] <Fredzilla> THank you mjr and Maze_of_Torment !!!  and lens!!!!
[10:42] <adamant1988> Hey, I was browsing the net and some file kept trying to download onto my computer and finally I walked away and it did... I restarted x because it just kept popping up that it was downloading even though it had finished... now all of my kde programs "Fail to communicate with klauncher"
[10:42] <raptros-v76> BlindTech: you are booting from a disk right?
[10:42] <mjr> ClayG, it should automatically, if you're logged in (in gnome, at least) as a user who has such privileges (plugdev group membership)
[10:42] <BlindTech> yes its the cd iso I burned to a cd off the site
[10:42] <BlindTech> 6.x
[10:42] <ClayG> hmm
[10:42] <lens> Fredzilla, you think it's gunna work now?
[10:43] <[Ex0r] > anyone here use php with linux?
[10:43] <Fredzilla> I hope so lens!
[10:43] <lens> hah, ok cool.
[10:43] <Maze_of_Torment> yw
[10:43] <[Ex0r] > if I use the system() function, do I have to add \'s to the spaces ?
[10:43] <raptros-v76> BlindTech: yeah. when you burn disks, make sure to have the burning program check them at the end, also, burn the disk at the slowest speed possible
[10:43] <raptros-v76> BlindTech: the disk wont work if there are any errors on it
[10:44] <BlindTech> ok, then thats my problem iit burned at 24 and at the end it said the variffication failed
[10:44] <raptros-v76> BlindTech: yeah
[10:44] <BlindTech> was sure if that was cause the cd or the image
[10:44] <BlindTech> how do i know if my image is good?
[10:44] <ClayG> mjr, how do i get to the "users and groups"
[10:44] <boxgamex__> ndiswrapper -l lists my device fine but when i try to modprobe ndiswrapper the light doesnt come on as its supposed to
[10:44] <t-thing_>  /leave
[10:45] <Beawolfe> Any help with the grub loader?
[10:45] <raptros-v76> BlindTech: when you boot from the cd, theres that list, including safe graphics mode. one of the options is something like "check CD"
[10:45] <boxgamex__> italy wins the world cup.
[10:45] <ompaul> BlindTech, burn it at 4 and do it as an ISO image not a file
[10:45] <BlindTech> ok
[10:45] <BlindTech> and even if thhe cd didn't burn right, that menu will come up?????
[10:45] <ircjeremy> I am very frustrated with not being able to use ubuntu, only kubuntu
[10:45] <raptros-v76> BlindTech: so your program reads whats going on to you?
[10:45] <raptros-v76> BlindTech: yep
[10:45] <tritium> ircjeremy: what's the issue?
[10:46] <raptros-v76> BlindTech: if it doesnt, then you KNOW the disk is bad
[10:46] <adamant1988> I just deleted my top panel... how can I get it back... lol..
[10:46] <ircjeremy> when I try logging into gnome, the top & bottom panels flash like 11 times then stop and the screen is kubuntu-blue the whole time
[10:46] <raptros-v76> BlindTech: does it read out the names?
[10:46] <BlindTech> then itsw something else
[10:47] <raptros-v76> BlindTech: what?
[10:47] <BlindTech> I know almost sure the cd burned right
[10:47] <BlindTech> because the boot menu comes up
[10:47] <BlindTech> what else could be the problem?
[10:47] <tritium> !enter > BlindTech
[10:47] <raptros-v76> BlindTech: that doesnt matter, something may be wrong somewhere else on the disk
[10:47] <ircjeremy> I then have to Ctrl+Alt+Bkspace, kubuntu works just fine, I have tried installing & uninstalling gnome and ubuntu-desktop
[10:47] <ircjeremy> I can't find anyone that has heard of the problem
[10:47] <raptros-v76> BlindTech: do verify disk
[10:47] <tritium> ircjeremy: fresh install of dapper?
[10:48] <Paradoxx> well, france have lsot the world cup
[10:48] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:48] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:48] <ircjeremy> I'm getting about frustrated enough to do that, tritium
[10:48] <BlindTech> ok thank you sir, I'll be back. again thanks.
[10:49] <raptros-v76> BlindTech: good luck :)
[10:49] <BlindTech> and btw, I use a couple of different os's that use what is called a screen reader. windows=jaws, linux terminal=speakup and mac os x.4=voiceover
[10:49] <tritium> ircjeremy: sorry, buddy
[10:49] <BlindTech> and..... on ubuntu you have gnopernicus
[10:49] <raptros-v76> BlindTech: cool. does it read of the names?
[10:49] <raptros-v76> s/of/off
[10:50] <gdb> ircjeremy: Are you wanting to get rid of KDE and switch back to just Gnome?
[10:50] <BlindTech> it reads the name, time stamp and msg
[10:50] <BlindTech> bbl
[10:50] <tritium> good luck, BlindTech
[10:51] <ircjeremy> I wanted to have the ability to use both
[10:51] <chapium> i find it hard to imagine a screen reader in a busy chatroom... that must be hell
[10:51] <cjones> could someone help me with apache?
[10:51] <raptros-v76> my name must sound so strange
[10:51] <gdb> ircjeremy: Well, I'd suggest following these instructions and then reinstalling the kubuntu-desktop package -> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php
[10:51] <linux_user400354> whats the problem cjones?
[10:51] <box|ubuntu> any idea why i get this?
[10:51] <box|ubuntu> boxgamex@ubuntu:~/Desktop/Drivers$ ndiswrapper -m
[10:51] <box|ubuntu> modprobe config already contains alias directive
[10:51] <gdb> ircjeremy: I don't know what all you've done, but that will set your system back to a "pure gnome" environment, into which you can install the KDE environment.
[10:52] <cjones> linux_user400354 just getting started dont know much yet just a few ?'s
[10:52] <XVampireX> Hi, Can I somehow check a specific task in the background?
[10:52] <box|ubuntu> man ndiswrapper is hard to config
[10:53] <linux_user400354> cjones push control and f4 then type "sudo apt-get install apache2"
[10:53] <linux_user400354> cjones sorry, i meant control alt and F4 at the same time
[10:53] <cjones> linux_user400354 ive already got that far and when i gor to http://localhost i get the right page but how do i set up to upload to it ?
[10:54] <cheatersrealm> is there a version of ubuntu-desktop that just does what I need for a very minimal install?
[10:54] <chapium> gdb, why does that remove apache?
[10:54] <SogniX> in gnome, is there a way to relocate where the file menu is (as in, detach it from the app/window and place it on top of the screen such as with Mac and KDE)
[10:54] <linux_user400354> cjones install proftpd to upload to it or just move files to /var/www/
[10:55] <linux_user400354> cjones move an index.html to /var/www/
[10:55] <ClayG> how do i get to the users and groups section in gnome?
[10:55] <gdb> chapium: Why does what remove apache?
[10:55] <cjones> linux_user400354 can i just aptgetinstall that
[10:55] <linux_user400354> yes
[10:55] <chapium> gdb, the kde removal instructions
[10:57] <box|ubuntu> uh oh. my wlan0 connection is gone. i tried to remove my ndiswrapper drivers but it failed in some parts
[10:57] <box|ubuntu> can i stop the driver?
[10:57] <gdb> chapium: I'm not seeing where it's removed.  Is it being removed due to a dependancy being removed?  Regardless, if you want to "reset" your system back to a pure Gnome environment, that's what you have to do.  That's the list of packages that kubuntu-desktop depends on, and thus installs.
[11:00] <ompaul> how sweet
[11:00] <cjones> linux_user400354 ok i moved a text file over to that and named it index.html but i cant get to it in firefox?
[11:00] <ompaul> a net split
[11:01] <LeaChim> eek!
[11:01] <ompaul> expect a large rejoin
[11:01] <someothernick> quitters!
[11:01] <raptros-v76> ompaul: wait, what seerver are you connected to?
[11:01] <ompaul> I never look :-)
[11:01] <bill[1] > anyone still here is on brown
[11:01] <raptros-v76> ah
[11:01] <raptros-v76> like me
[11:01] <raptros-v76> lol
[11:02] <someothernick> anyone know how to get ubuntu to see a xbox drive?
[11:03] <zool2005> ????
[11:04] <ompaul> zool2005, what is with the multiple question marks?
[11:04] <cjones> sweet
[11:04] <zool2005> why did so many people get disconnected at once?
[11:05] <raptros-v76> zool2005: netsplit
[11:05] <someothernick> !netsplit
[11:05] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[11:05] <zool2005> ah
[11:06] <ccc_> someothernick: you mean put an xbox hd into your computer and mount it?
[11:06] <box|ubuntu> man im so fed up with ndswrapper
[11:07] <someothernick> ccc_: yes
[11:08] <RiotingP> irc://irc.mozilla.org/firefox
[11:08] <someothernick> disk manager says there are no known partitions on the disk
[11:08] <nothingman> hi, all
[11:08] <ccc_> someothernick: check http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Mounting_FATX_partitions_HOWTO
[11:08] <someothernick> ty
[11:08] <gluttony> how do i remove wine from my system?
[11:09] <mc__> Glutinous, sudo apt-get remove wine
[11:09] <godzirra> Heya guys.  I just installed apache2 with apt-get and tried to start it, but it comes back with no errors or anything.
[11:09] <euclid_888> Hi! I'm a new Ubuntu user. Can I get help installing SSH to mount remote folders locally?
[11:09] <ompaul> gluttony, sudo apt-get remove --purge wine
[11:09] <godzirra> just returns a blank line, and doesnt start.
[11:09] <mc__> gluttony, pick some ubuntu beginner tutorial
[11:10] <ompaul> euclid_888, when you say remote same network?
[11:10] <gluttony> it didnt work
[11:10] <mc__> gluttony, how did you install it?
[11:10] <euclid_888> ompaul, nope, a remote SSH server across the internet. I read that I could type "sudo apt-get install sshfs", but Ubuntu can't find the package.
[11:11] <cjones> linux_user400354 you still around?
[11:11] <JoyFM> hi
[11:11] <gluttony> in synaptic. by adding a custum channel
[11:11] <JoyFM> is under ubuntu something like modconf under debian available?
[11:11] <ompaul> euclid_888, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[11:11] <mc__> JoyFM, you can use modconf in ubuntu
[11:11] <euclid_888> ompaul, I have the SSH server install that is the openssh one. Does it have what I need?
[11:11] <sharms> gluttony: did you get my PM?
[11:12] <JoyFM> mc__, how?
[11:12] <someothernick> ccc_: "mount: unknown filesystem type 'fatx'" any ideas?
[11:12] <box|ubuntu> is there a way i can start clean with ndiswrapper
[11:12] <mc__> JoyFM, go to packages.debian.org,download the deb and install it with dpkg
[11:12] <ompaul> euclid_888, I never saw what you are looking at until now
[11:13] <ompaul> euclid_888, let me find something
[11:13] <sharms> mc__: you mean packages.ubuntu.com right?
[11:13] <JoyFM> ok
[11:13] <euclid_888> ompaul, okay thanks. I use SSH all the time, but have never mounted remote drives locally.
[11:13] <mc__> sharms, the package doestn seem to be in ubuntu right now
[11:13] <ompaul> euclid_888, you need to have the universe repos enabled
[11:13] <sharms> mc__: Binary compatibility isn't guarunteed between debian and ubuntu though
[11:13] <nothingman> been having trouble with the Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 cards in my Xinerama setup since upgrading to Dapper
[11:13] <speedsix> Got a really weird problem with BOTH of my Ubuntu machines. Login and it just sits there for about 3-4mins with a blank screen and cursor before it eventually shows the splash screen and loads gnome properly??
[11:14] <ompaul> !universe > euclid_888
[11:14] <ompaul> euclid_888, read the message from the bot ubotu please
[11:14] <gluttony> sharms, did you get mine?
[11:14] <godzirra> Anyone know?
[11:14] <mc__> sharms, i know but in most cases they are binary compatible
[11:14] <sharms> gluttony: no are you are a registered user?
[11:14] <euclid_888> ompaul, I read it. It says to know that subpackages exist.
[11:14] <mc__> sharms, and such a little programm like modconf shouldnt be a problem cause it has nearly no dependencies
[11:14] <nothingman> I get no errors since changing the driver to s3, but that helps me none since I have nothing on either monitor
[11:14] <gluttony> .....
[11:14] <sharms> gluttony: can you paste it in #gluttony ?
[11:15] <euclid_888> ompaul, I will look for that package. Thank you.
[11:15] <ompaul> euclid_888, have you got universe in there?
[11:15] <BlindTech> okI am back and just have one questions: does ubuntu need any hdd space at all besides loading in to ram, to run its live cd?
[11:15] <gluttony> paste what?
[11:15] <euclid_888> ompaul, I'm not sure. The bot wants me to type !easysource
[11:15] <BlindTech> reason why i ask, is because I think my current install of xp and other stuff is almost filling up the hdd
[11:15] <ompaul> !easysource > euclid_888
[11:16] <nothingman> yes, they're connected; yes, they're turned on; yes, the cards are in their slots and defined in my xorg.conf
[11:16] <ompaul> euclid_888, read that
[11:16] <cjones> can you change your user name ?
[11:16] <ompaul> BlindTech, it does not, but it would be nicer if you had more room
[11:16] <cjones> in irc
[11:16] <funkja> I added a mount to my fstab to automatically mount a partition, and it mounts fine but with ownership of root, how do I change it so the ownership of the mount is one of my users
[11:16] <xplicit> is there anyway to order programs in a panel
[11:17] <gluttony> does ANYONE know how to remove wine from ubuntu?
[11:17] <nomats> funkja, add "users"
[11:17] <cwillu> how do I make a user with no password?
[11:17] <mc__> gluttony, if installed with apt-get ,apt-get remove MUST work
[11:17] <cwillu> gluttony: how did you install it?
[11:17] <cwillu> gluttony: if you don't want the config files lying around, do a complete removal of it, not just remove
[11:17] <xplicit> cwillu i dont think you can
[11:18] <gluttony> by pasting deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main into a custom synaptic channel
[11:18] <euclid_888> ompaul, I read what you sent to me, but the last one doesnt make any sense.
[11:18] <euclid_888> ompaul, this one: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:18] <cjones> does anybody know how to change your name in xcaht ?
[11:18] <cwillu> gluttony: what error are you getting when you uninstall it?
[11:19] <gluttony> none, because i dont know how to do it
[11:19] <cwillu> xplicit: I'm hoping it's just not allowed by default;  auto-login is too broken for what I'm doing
[11:19] <cwillu> gluttony: synaptic, find the package, and remove it
[11:19] <mc__> gluttony, sudo apt-get remove wine
[11:19] <mc__> !rtfm > gluttony
[11:20] <cwillu> mc__: it's possible his package isn't actually called wine
[11:20] <gluttony> cwillu, so i uncheck it in synaptic?
[11:20] <gatekeeper> mc__: bet he doesn't know what that means :-(
[11:20] <linux_user400354> cjones im here
[11:20] <cwillu> mc__: and rtfm is not something that should ever be spoken in this channel (linux newbs don't neccessarily know where the manual is)
[11:20] <tritium> mc__: have patience
[11:20] <cwillu> gluttony: yep
[11:20] <joosep> i have a problem with dapper, it randomly reboots without any notice
[11:20] <joosep> any ideas?
[11:20] <gluttony> and the patch i have for it?
[11:20] <cwillu> joosep: reboots in what sens?
[11:21] <mc__> cwillu, well then !rtfm should contain a link to it
[11:21] <ccc_> someothernick: i think you need to patch the kernel for fatx support. :\ i have no experience of that though, my xbox is hardmodded and i haven't really needed to fiddle with it. but i guess you can find info on xbox-linux.org
[11:21] <tritium> mc__: it's not nice.  Please don't use it.
[11:21] <cjones> linux_user400354 hey i did that but cant get to it in firefox?
[11:21] <cwillu> gluttony: which patch?
[11:21] <depi> I know that this is stupid question, but how can I write "single quote" in ubuntu? I can only  double quotes - ". :(
[11:21] <gluttony> 0.9.16
[11:21] <mc__> it is not nice to not bother  to read the manual and steel other peoples time
[11:21] <cwillu> mc__: read for yourself what rtfm says
[11:21] <cwillu> !rtfm
[11:21] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[11:22] <gatekeeper> depi: sound like the wrong keyboard mapping?
[11:22] <mc__> well  noob is not ok,but stfu and rtfm are IMHO important
[11:22] <box|ubuntu> does anyone know why every driver i try gives me couldn't copy netwg111.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135.
[11:22] <tritium> mc__: again, not in this channel.  Please refer to our Code of Conduct
[11:22] <depi> gatekeeper: what can I do?
[11:22] <linux_user400354> cjones what did you put in firefox?
[11:23] <euclid_888> "GTK-WARNING**:cannot open display:" <----- Help with this please?
[11:23] <cheatersrealm> can you install ubuntu from the ubuntu livecd?
[11:23] <tritium> cheatersrealm: yes (dapper)
[11:23] <cwillu> gluttony: I'm sorry;  I mean, how did you get/install the patch?
[11:23] <gatekeeper> !keyboard
[11:23] <someothernick> ccc_: ty :)
[11:23] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[11:23] <cheatersrealm> tritium: howto link?
[11:23] <mc__> tritium, why let !rtfm say "Please read the fine manual" $link_to_manual"
[11:23] <linux_user400354> cjones, http://localhost this is all you should put
[11:23] <cwillu> gluttony: regardless, unchecking it in synaptic and hitting apply should remove it completely, assuming you don't have a second install of it somewhere
[11:23] <mc__> s/why/why not
[11:23] <tritium> mc__: please drop it
[11:23] <someothernick> !gpart
[11:23] <someothernick> !gparted
[11:24] <depi> !keyboard
[11:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about gpart
[11:24] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[11:24] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[11:24] <ccc_> someothernick: np. gl :)
[11:24] <raptros-v76> mc__: because seveas doesnt want it that way
[11:24] <xplicit> how do i update my firefox?
[11:24] <mc__> tritium, alright
[11:24] <cheatersrealm> tritium: nevermind, there's a thing on the desktop
[11:24] <gluttony> ok, i instialled it using the download page at winehq. it had me do it in synaptic
[11:24] <shadowpanda> can someone maybe help me with a WINE error?
[11:24] <SonicChao> shadowpanda: please state the problem...
[11:24] <tritium> mc__: thanks :)
[11:24] <SonicChao> shadowpanda: and don't use words like "Can someone"
[11:25] <funkja> that didn't work. How can I mount a partition in my fstab that is owned my a user instead of root?
[11:25] <mc__> shadowpanda, please do not ask to ask ,only ask
[11:25] <box|ubuntu> does anyone know a why to start fresh with ndiswrapper?
[11:25] <nothingman> I take that back; I do get an "UnloadModule: 's3' " line in my Xorg.0.log
[11:25] <tritium> cheatersrealm: yep :)
[11:25] <box|ubuntu> *way
[11:25] <joosep> cwillu, just reboot
[11:25] <mc__> tritium, no problem
[11:25] <depi> gatekeeper: keyboard shortcuts is not what I need
[11:25] <xplicit> im on 1.0.8 and want to go to 1.5.0.4 id assume i jsut install the 1.5.0.4 but ir said to consult the distro not the firefox site
[11:25] <cwillu> joosep: like, clean shutdown (shutdown screens, etc)?  or just shutdown right now like you hit the reset switch?
[11:26] <joosep> cwillu, not clean
[11:26] <gatekeeper> depi: I was looking for an answer for you
[11:26] <linux_user400354> cjones are you there?
[11:26] <gatekeeper> depi: I know :-(
[11:26] <cwillu> :/
[11:26] <newbuntu> hello from my linux-handheld
[11:26] <codeRat> HI, I have some problems with resolution that I really don't understand..I can only choose 640x480 , but in xorg it is written that I should have the option till the 1600x1200..any Idea what's wrong?
[11:26] <SonicChao> linux_user400354: if not, just ask the question again
[11:26] <Shizboom> are there any programs like Stock Ticker 2.14.2 that you can have scroll your own info on?
[11:26] <cwillu> joosep: and it actually reboots, not just giving you a blank screen that you have to reboot from...
[11:27] <depi> gatekeeper: for example I selected US English INternational kb. layout but I cant get it work - the single quotes
[11:27] <cwillu> joosep: any triggers?
[11:27] <mc__> linux_user400354, but please be patiente
[11:27] <cwillu> joosep: only when you leave and come back, or only while working on it?
[11:27] <linux_user400354> what is a linux-handheld?
[11:27] <shadowpanda> Im getting this problem with Install shield details can be viewed http://pastebin.ca/83491 can someone tell me what my problem might be or how i can fix it?
[11:27] <cwillu> joosep: i.e., I've seen some screensavers cause that type of failure (fyreworks does it to me on a couple of my machines)
[11:27] <joosep> cwillu, yes it reboots, and no apparent triggers, sometimes it reboots while working on it and sometimes when it's idle
[11:27] <SonicChao> newbuntu: Linux Handheld?
[11:28] <SonicChao> newbuntu: sounds like a nice concept...
[11:28] <joosep> cwillu, actually it's not my machine i'm troublehooting, it's my girlfirends so i'm pretty much blind here :P
[11:28] <Songster52> Good day all... have a question for you...I am wanting to change Breezy to Dapper but not sure how to enter the gksudo command
[11:29] <gatekeeper> depi: not sure may be one of the others might have an answer sorry
[11:29] <cwillu> joosep: have you seen it crash personally, or are you just in front of it now having not seen it yet, or thirdly are you troubleshooting verbally?  :)
[11:29] <lucasvo> !update
[11:29] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[11:29] <joosep> cwillu, verbally
[11:29] <SonicChao> shadowpanda: Wine can't run everything....that may be one of the things it cant run :)
[11:29] <shadowpanda> haha ok
[11:29] <moses__> besides Gimp. any good program for Ubuntu?
[11:29] <cwillu> joosep: so you're not in front of the machine then?  :/
[11:29] <depi> gatekeeper> okay, I know, but really thanks for trying to help me
[11:30] <box|ubuntu> can someone help me with ndiswrapper?
[11:30] <lucasvo> Songster52: if you use the gksudo command you will update to edgy and not to dapper
[11:30] <joosep> cwillu, not at the moment no. but i thought that maybe it was a common bug or smth
[11:30] <lucasvo> Songster52: read the wiki document
[11:30] <Songster52> got ya.. opend the site... thanks
[11:30] <cwillu> joosep: well, the specifics matter quite a bit in this case, and third party descriptions have a way of being inaccurate 90% of the time :)
[11:30] <cwillu> joosep: could be anything from a hardware failure (bad power supply, etc) to a software package isse
[11:30] <cwillu> iissue
[11:31] <gatekeeper> depi: nothing to thank me for I didn't manage to help you but would be interested if you find an answer
[11:31] <joosep> cwillu, ok thanks anyway :)
[11:31] <cwillu> joosep: if you get on the machine, I'd look at the contents of dmesg and other stuff in /var/log
[11:31] <joosep> cwillu, i suspected bad ram, cos it a quite old machine
[11:31] <cwillu> just for clues, etc
[11:31] <joosep> yeah
[11:31] <cwillu> joosep: I'd actually suspect the ps first
[11:31] <codeRat> still with my problem, at first everything worked fine, than  used kvm-switch and now I can't change the res anymore..I unplugged the switch (plugged the mouse, keyb. and monitor back directly on my PC), but still no change, then I even reinstalled ubuntu, but still nothing..I'm desperate :(
[11:32] <cwillu> is ubuntu set to immediately reboot on a kernel panic?
[11:32] <moses__> besides Gimp. any good graphics program for Ubuntu?
[11:32] <depi> gatekeeper: ok. can I ask you what keyboard layout have you on system > preferences > keyboard > layouots?
[11:33] <mc__> moses__, Krita but thats KDE
[11:33] <gatekeeper> depi: I selected English as I am in the UK
[11:34] <gatekeeper> depi: think it said English (British) during the installation
[11:34] <depi> gatekeeper: so united kingdom: international or dvorak?
[11:34] <depi> aha
[11:34] <cwillu> codeRat: how do you mean change res?
[11:35] <dxdemetriou> how can I make my xorg.conf with nvidia, to set my monitor to ctrl-alt-f7 and the tv to the f8?
[11:35] <gatekeeper> depi: mine is standard qwerty
[11:35] <ompaul> depi, system preferences keyboard
[11:35] <depi> ompaul: I know how to setup kb. layout, but I cant kget work the single quote :(
[11:36] <codeRat> cwillu: System - Preferences - Screen resolution..I have no other options then 640x480 (but in xorg.conf there are other - they were written by the installation, I didn't touch the file)
[11:36] <cwillu> dxdemetriou: I don't know, but I don't think that's actually in xorg;  more like gdm, etc type stuff
[11:36] <gatekeeper> ompaul: I am using kubuntu and System Setting keybord doesn't give you any options to change gnome different?
[11:36] <ompaul> depi, there are two ' and ` which one are you looking for?
[11:36] <Shizboom> Are there any howtos on how to create a embeded panel script?
[11:36] <cwillu> codeRat: have you done a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg yet?
[11:36] <codeRat> no
[11:36] <depi> omapul: the first one
[11:37] <depi> ompaul: the first one
[11:37] <cwillu> codeRat: make sure the monitor is plugged in while you do it, just use the defaults for everything;  it'll rebuild the xorg.conf file and should hopefully detect the resolutions your setup supports
[11:37] <ompaul> gatekeeper, for you I suggest sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:37] <codeRat> cwillu: but when I first installed it it worked fine, why shouldn't work now...it's strange..
[11:37] <ompaul> depi, what keyboard type have you got?
[11:37] <gatekeeper> ompaul: will remember that :-)
[11:38] <codeRat> cwillu: even the liv
[11:38] <cwillu> ?
[11:38] <dxdemetriou> cwillu, I want to change somehow what needed to can send movies to tv while I am working the pc. Now I have the Clone, but doesn't work with 1280x1024
[11:38] <cwillu> weird
[11:38] <codeRat> the liveCD doesn't work..
[11:38] <depi> ompaul: genius KB-21e-Scroll
[11:38] <ompaul> gatekeeper, but I am sure that the little international flag on the bottom right hand side of your screen is what you want
[11:38] <codeRat> ok I'll try with the reconf..
[11:38] <dpn> Why won't Azureus work after installing from repositories
[11:38] <codeRat> bbl
[11:38] <cwillu> dxdemetriou: sorry, I don't know anything about the specifics, I'm just pretty sure that xorg.conf doesn't control which vterm-thingy gets used
[11:38] <dpn> I open and nothing happens or it opens with nothing inside it
[11:38] <cwillu> dxdemetriou: but I could be mistaken
[11:39] <TheDebugger> Hi, i just got an mp3 player( Sandisk Sansa c140 ) which is functionning perfectly on ubuntu. But i can't delete the samples that came with it( They don't show up ). Anyone has an idea?
[11:40] <gatekeeper> ompaul: ain't got one of them was just trying to help depi and failed misserable
[11:40] <crogue5> dpn, try installing with automatix, worked great for me
[11:40] <dpn> does gnome have automatix
[11:41] <gnomefreak> dpn: no its 3rd party software
[11:41] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[11:41] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[11:41] <crogue5> ^
[11:42] <godzirra> is there a php5 list for ubuntu yet?
[11:42] <ompaul> depi, if your configured right it should be with a US setting beside the return key lower case right hand side three rows from the bottom (inclusive)
[11:42] <godzirra> err release?
[11:42] <Ropechoborra> Is there a command to restart a process ?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> Ropechoborra: what one?
[11:43] <moses__> besides Gimp. any good graphics program for Ubuntu?
[11:43] <godzirra> All these people here and no one knows if you can get php5 on ubuntu?
[11:43] <Ropechoborra> Instead of kill pid like restart pid ?
[11:43] <Ropechoborra> or something x)
[11:43] <Marcus> can someone direct me to a good how to for newbs for networking ?
[11:43] <hawkaloogie> moses__, inkscape is a nice illustrator alternative
[11:43] <gnomefreak> moses__: blender imagemagic, so on and so on
[11:43] <TehUni> i want to add a monitor, but not be able to use a cursor on it. basically, it's a screen for my mythtv frontend, so i want it basically detatched from the user. Any way to do this?
[11:43] <ompaul> moses__, it is the most powerful, you can use scribus if you want vector graphics
[11:44] <gnomefreak> Ropechoborra: not like that no not really depending on the app would depend on the restart command
[11:44] <depi> ompaul: hmm I get them - ' - but I must to hit space after it to display them
[11:44] <Marcus> can someone help me with trying to set up a network
[11:45] <Marcus> or direct me to a good help file
[11:45] <Marcus> more in depth then the unofficial guide
[11:45] <Ropechoborra> i want to restart de dancer-ircd but when i kill the process i cant start it again (cant run the exec file dont know why)
[11:45] <ompaul> depi, it is most likely the fact that your cursor is blocking the view of it once printed on the screen
[11:45] <Ropechoborra> The only way is reinstalling it =/
[11:46] <depi> ompaul: I dont think so
[11:46] <hawkaloogie> Ropechoborra, why aren't you using init to restart it?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> Ropechoborra: ummm reboot or restarting X if its gui should do the trick
[11:46] <Ropechoborra> hawkaloogie init?
[11:47] <hawkaloogie> Ropechoborra, there should probably be a script in /etc/init.d/ to start and restart dancer-ircd
[11:47] <gnomefreak> :(
[11:47] <Ropechoborra> ok
[11:47] <tibbe> .
[11:47] <Ropechoborra> Ty
[11:48] <hawkaloogie> Ropechoborra, sudo /etc/init.d/dancer-ircd restart <- should do the trick
[11:48] <hawkaloogie> Ropechoborra, or try "stop" and "start"
[11:48] <Ropechoborra> :)
[11:48] <Ropechoborra> Ok
[11:49] <colk> how do you change the amount of colors in ububut
[11:49] <colk> do you have to edit xorg.conf
[11:49] <ompaul> !fixres > colk
[11:49] <ompaul> colk, please read the message from the bot
[11:50] <barktpolar> I have a question about alsaconf
[11:50] <ircjeremy> gdb:thanks so much for the help, my problem is fixed and I can run Ubuntu & Kubuntu
[11:50] <gdb> ircjeremy: Right on!  I'm glad to hear it! :-)
[11:50] <Marcus> can anyone help me with setting up a network
[11:50] <scotty_> where can i download packages
[11:50] <Ropechoborra> hawkaloogie do u got any idea how to create a full oper access? i cant understand the oline manual =(
[11:51] <barktpolar> When you run it and at the end it says "Aborted" is that bad?
[11:51] <hawkaloogie> Ropechoborra, i've never used that program, so no
[11:51] <Ropechoborra> Ok
[11:51] <dpn> Thanks for the automatix tip , this program is great
[11:51] <Ropechoborra> Thanks
[11:51] <allanlewis> can anyone give me some pointers on how to access a shared printer on a win98 pc?
[11:52] <gnomefreak> scotty_: start with synaptic
[11:52] <XoNE> could someone tell me where ubuntu stores it's settings for "network places"?  I am unable to delete one of my network places...."operation not permitted"..
[11:52] <scotty_> howd i get synaptic
[11:52] <gnomefreak> scotty_: go to system>admin>synaptic package manager
[11:52] <SonicChao> scotty_: What do you mean?
[11:53] <SonicChao> scotty_: Like downloading Synaptic?
[11:53] <SonicChao> XoNE: you need to be logged in as root
[11:53] <scotty_> gnomefreak im on package manager now what
[11:53] <Ragnaroek> sup
[11:54] <barktpolar> Go to the top of the menu and select System, Then Adminstration, Then Synaptic Package Manager
[11:54] <SonicChao> Ragnaroek: Hi...what is you're Ubuntu problem?
[11:54] <Ragnaroek> out of interest
[11:54] <Ropechoborra> in the /server command where goes the password?
[11:54] <XoNE> SonicChao: It will let me create them, but not delete them?
[11:55] <hawkaloogie> Ropechoborra, this is an ubuntu help channel, not really an IRC help channel.
[11:55] <XoNE> I mean, as a regular user
[11:55] <scotty_> gnomefreak can i get java from here
[11:55] <gnomefreak> scotty_: look through it or use the search button to find what you want to install
[11:55] <SonicChao> XoNE: need to be logged in as root for that
[11:55] <gnomefreak> scotty_: if you have the multiverse repo enabled you can
[11:55] <SonicChao> XoNE: sorry
[11:55] <scotty_> how do i enable multiverse
[11:55] <SonicChao> !repos > scotty_
[11:55] <scotty_> i only got ubuntu earlyer today
[11:55] <XoNE> seems odd it lets me create them as a regular user, but ok....I'll take your word for it
[11:55] <SonicChao> scotty_: read ubotu's message
[11:56] <gnomefreak> !repos > scotty_
[11:56] <gnomefreak> scotty_: read the pm from ubotu
[11:56] <SonicChao> gnomefreak: Lol, no need to send it twice
[11:56] <gnomefreak> SonicChao: i didnt see yours
[11:56] <gnomefreak> now he cant say i didnt get it ;)
[11:56] <SonicChao> gnomefreak: Oh, ok...hehe ;)
[11:56] <euclid_888> Hello!
[11:56] <SonicChao> euclid_888: Hello
[11:57] <euclid_888> How can I configure where APT-GET looks for software?
[11:57] <euclid_888> It's not finding what I want.
[11:57] <SonicChao> euclid_888: It gets it from packages.ubuntu.com
[11:57] <ardchoille> euclid_888: what are you looking for?
[11:57] <SonicChao> euclid_888: Where else would you get all those packages?
[11:57] <Marcus> does ubuntu come built in with the feature that if you hover your mouse over a media file it will play a preview or is that an upgrade?
[11:57] <euclid_888> Why doesnt it find "xchat" or "sshfs"?
[11:58] <MrObvious> euclid_888: What do you want? Usually you gotta enable things like universe and multiverse to get stuff like that.
[11:58] <MrObvious> !universe
[11:58] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:58] <MrObvious> !multiverse
[11:58] <dpn> Anyone know why azureus wouldn't be running for me?  Is it a problem with Xgl?  I've tried with Automatix and Synaptic
[11:58] <MrObvious> Well anyway, read what the bot says about universe.
[11:58] <tvalladon> I have a system, 3 hdd's, sata (linux master), sata (winXP) and ata (storage), grub only shows the windows partition.. can someone take a moment to walk me through setting up the windows drive?
[11:58] <euclid_888> !universe
[11:58] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:58] <ompaul> euclid_888, I have told you already about iniverse if your not going to take my advice of that of others what are you doing asking
[11:58] <Marcus> can someone help me, im trying to set up a network between two laptops running ubuntu
[11:58] <ardchoille> euclid_888: Yeah, XChat is in universe
[11:58] <tvalladon> err, grub only shows the linux partition, sorry
[11:58] <SonicChao> euclid_888 and MrObvious, they are both the same
[11:59] <allanlewis> !easysource
[11:59] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:59] <euclid_888> ompaul, I wrote that /i read what u linked to but didnt understand it.. then u left
[11:59] <allanlewis> can anyone give me some pointers on how to access a shared printer on a win98 pc?
[11:59] <ompaul> euclid_888, a pm in a moment for you
[12:00] <Rief> i all
[12:00] <Rief> i have a question
[12:00] <ompaul> euclid_888, please click on the link in that pm
[12:00] <euclid_888> yup
[12:00] <Rief> there is a method to controll windows on ubuntu with a script? I want to do a script that emulate the F12 button of XGL...