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| TheWarden | Hi. I downloaded Edubuntu Live CD image.. burnt it and I can't get it to boot up. I see the startup menu.. I've tried all the options I know how to do.. it starts loading and then at the end the screen goes blank with a flashing cursor | 01:57 |
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| TheWarden | then just sits there. Nothing else happens afterwards. What else can I do to get it to work? | 01:57 |
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| cwillu | how do I log in on the local console (root?) on a edubuntu-net-booted terminal? or alternatively, is there any way to make a local (to the terminal) drive available (to apps running on the terminal or the server)? | 04:02 |
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| sbalneav | Evening all! | 04:13 |
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| bddebian | Hello sbalneav | 04:24 |
| sbalneav | bddebian: Hello there! | 04:24 |
| jsgotangco | sbalneav: hey scott! | 04:34 |
| sbalneav | hey jsgotangco | 04:35 |
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| bimberi | hi all. jsgotangco it's funny how once you see a name you start noticing it a lot more - http://softwarefreedomday.org/sfi/TshirtSigners (2nd on list) | 04:54 |
| jsgotangco | aseigo's big on KDE | 04:55 |
| bimberi | as i'm now realising :) | 04:55 |
| jsgotangco | i think he's working for trolltech at the moment | 04:59 |
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| xbl | anybody tried scribus on edubuntu? | 05:31 |
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| bash | hey mhz | 06:36 |
| bash | are you there ? | 06:36 |
| mhz | bash: hey | 06:36 |
| bash | what up! | 06:37 |
| mhz | anda a acotarte | 06:37 |
| mhz | es muy tarde | 06:37 |
| mhz | :D | 06:37 |
| bash | mhz, i sleep all day.. | 06:37 |
| mhz | aah, de veras! | 06:37 |
| mhz | bash: I am talking to arkan0x about dsslive and his expereinces with it so far | 06:38 |
| bash | mhz, what is the developed version of ubuntu ? | 06:38 |
| bash | dapper ? | 06:38 |
| mhz | the release is 6.06 and the 'under development' is edgy (6.10) | 06:38 |
| mhz | 6.06 = dapper | 06:38 |
| bash | oe loko tube dramas con la instalacion de dapper | 06:39 |
| arkan0x | bash, edubuntu-es plis :D | 06:39 |
| bash | la version que te enviaban un solo CD | 06:39 |
| arkan0x | bash, #edubuntu-es plis :D | 06:39 |
| arkan0x | or #ubuntu-es :D | 06:39 |
| bash | ajaja (plis) | 06:39 |
| mhz | "a mi no plis" | 06:39 |
| arkan0x | jajja | 06:40 |
| bash | version ql. la wea live cd nunca me pesco el particionamiento del installer | 06:40 |
| bash | :S | 06:40 |
| arkan0x | bash, para que seamos mas en edubuntu-es | 06:40 |
| arkan0x | :D | 06:40 |
| bash | pichula | 06:40 |
| arkan0x | a mi si me pesko el particionamiento del live , en 2 tarros distintos he probado :D | 06:41 |
| bash | en esta wea no pesco probe con cuantas live cd | 06:41 |
| mhz | bash, I have not used live CD yet | 06:41 |
| bash | toas se congelaban | 06:41 |
| bash | en la zona de particionamiento | 06:41 |
| arkan0x | bash, es tu hd :D | 06:42 |
| bash | "Editar Particion" | 06:42 |
| arkan0x | aaa | 06:42 |
| bash | arkan0x, no puede ser el harddisk si breezy paso colaoo | 06:42 |
| bash | es la ui ql | 06:42 |
| arkan0x | bash, viste los logs ? | 06:42 |
| bash | que logs wn si es una live cd. | 06:42 |
| bash | se conjela | 06:42 |
| bash | no deja hacer nada | 06:42 |
| bash | la unica opcion es reiniciar la maquina | 06:43 |
| mhz | bash: and the min. requirements were ok? | 06:43 |
| bash | what ? | 06:43 |
| bash | toy con un sempron de 2.8 + 256 ram ddr | 06:43 |
| mhz | bash: the minimum requirements to run LiveCd | 06:43 |
| mhz | ooohhh | 06:43 |
| arkan0x | bash, tiene logs | 06:43 |
| bash | disco duro de 80 gb | 06:43 |
| arkan0x | una live tiene logs | 06:44 |
| bash | arkan0x, claro | 06:44 |
| bash | ii cuando reinicio el pc | 06:44 |
| bash | como los veos '? | 06:44 |
| bash | seguro te va aguardar los registros en la ram | 06:44 |
| mhz | cat /var/log/... | 06:44 |
| arkan0x | nono , cuando estas instalando con ubiquity (el gui) , se te generan logs | 06:44 |
| mhz | sip | 06:44 |
| bash | sip. claro pero te reitero que la maquina queda completamente congelada | 06:45 |
| mhz | aah, y ubiquity no te alcanza a mostrar log? | 06:45 |
| bash | ahora lo que voy hacer, es migrar de breezy a dapper :D por APT | 06:45 |
| bash | lo que al mhz no le gusta :D:D:D | 06:45 |
| mhz | bash: please don't do it | 06:45 |
| arkan0x | bash, que raro lo que te paso | 06:45 |
| bash | mhz, yES, YEST | 06:45 |
| arkan0x | a mi no se me congelo ni nada | 06:45 |
| mhz | bash: it is super weired | 06:45 |
| arkan0x | instale rebien | 06:45 |
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| bash | mhz, te apuesto una luca que la instalacion me la hace cagada de la risa :D | 06:46 |
| mhz | bash: yup, $1000 | 06:46 |
| mhz | bash: but... | 06:46 |
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| mhz | bash: I know APT will work | 06:47 |
| mhz | bash: it is the system I am afraid it will break | 06:47 |
| bash | a que no | 06:47 |
| mhz | bash: $1000 but I MUST be there to look | 06:48 |
| mhz | :) | 06:48 |
| bash | oka | 06:48 |
| bash | te doy permiso por ssh para que webes su rato xD | 06:48 |
| bash | xD | 06:48 |
| mhz | bash: hehehe, hmmm | 06:49 |
| sbalneav | Night all | 07:17 |
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| sbalneav | Good morning #edubuntu! | 01:49 |
| sbalneav | ogra: ping | 01:50 |
| Fujitsu | Good evening, sbalneav! | 01:52 |
| sbalneav | Fujitsu: Morning! | 01:52 |
| Fujitsu | Evening! Late evening at that. | 01:53 |
| cwillu | ooo, people | 01:54 |
| Fujitsu | Ooh, a cwillu! | 01:55 |
| cwillu | say, what users exist on the remote image? | 01:55 |
| cwillu | quite! :) | 01:55 |
| Fujitsu | cwillu, none as far as I know. | 01:55 |
| Fujitsu | You can always check. | 01:55 |
| cwillu | well, there's must be at least root | 01:55 |
| cwillu | how do I check? | 01:55 |
| Fujitsu | Well, yes. | 01:55 |
| Fujitsu | Hmm. | 01:55 |
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| cwillu | chroot from the server? because I can't seem to log in from the terminal | 01:55 |
| Fujitsu | I haven't set up a server in a whole two weeks, I can't remember what the default root is... | 01:55 |
| ogra | cwillu, root is locked by default as in all ubuntus :) | 01:55 |
| ogra | morning sbalneav | 01:55 |
| Fujitsu | You can look at the passwd in the LTSP root. | 01:56 |
| cwillu | ogra: no, it's just set to a random password that you're not told | 01:56 |
| sbalneav | Morning | 01:56 |
| Fujitsu | cwillu, no. | 01:56 |
| ogra | cwillu, nope | 01:56 |
| Fujitsu | cwillu, it's set to nothing, thus disabled. | 01:56 |
| ogra | cwillu, but you can set a password for root in the client chroot if you need to log in to the client for debugging | 01:56 |
| ogra | sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd | 01:56 |
| ogra | that will forst ask for your user pw and then for the one you want to set in the chroot for root | 01:57 |
| ogra | sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd -l will lock it again | 01:57 |
| cwillu | wow, there's alot of bad info on the net then... :p I've read the random password thing in a good 5 or 6 places | 01:58 |
| Fujitsu | cwillu, where? I'll go and email the webmasters about it. >:) | 01:58 |
| sbalneav | Bwahahah! You trust the internet?!?!? :) | 01:58 |
| cwillu | google ubuntu root random password | 01:59 |
| cwillu | of course not :p | 01:59 |
| ogra | !root | 01:59 |
| ubotu | sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information. | 01:59 |
| sbalneav | You realize you're not even talking to humans, but incredible computer simuations, right? :) | 01:59 |
| ogra | cwillu, see the wikipage the bot posted | 01:59 |
| cwillu | sbalneav: of course; I wrote the simulation :p | 01:59 |
| sbalneav | Master! | 01:59 |
| cwillu | calm down calm down | 01:59 |
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| cwillu | :p | 02:00 |
| cwillu | either way, sufficiently random password or disabled login under that user has the same effect; so I have to create a user on that image if I want to do anything local on it (such as using a local harddrive)? | 02:00 |
| ogra | no | 02:01 |
| ogra | local devices work with a daemon running as root on the client | 02:02 |
| jsgotangco | hi | 02:02 |
| cwillu | and just to be pendantic, passwd -l root locks it again, not passwd -l it seems :p | 02:02 |
| ogra | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientLocalDevices describes how we'll implement it for the next release | 02:03 |
| pygi | hi jsgotangco | 02:03 |
| cwillu | I suppose I should also note that I'm not running a clean edubuntu, it's an xubuntu-desktop with various packages installed | 02:03 |
| cwillu | ogra, ah, thanks :) | 02:03 |
| ogra | cwillu, not if you run it via chroot | 02:03 |
| cwillu | ogra, I just ran it as chroot, and it gave me the help page | 02:03 |
| ogra | (passwd -l) | 02:03 |
| ogra | well, chroot makes you root, if you run passwd -l it locks the pw of the currently used user (root) | 02:04 |
| ogra | (at least it should) | 02:04 |
| cwillu | nope | 02:04 |
| cwillu | maybe it's different for root specifically | 02:04 |
| cwillu | I just logged in on the remote terminal, and then did passwd -l on the chroot again; help page. passwd -l root locked it though | 02:05 |
| ogra | well, might be ... i never use root ... not even while developing :) | 02:05 |
| cwillu | :p | 02:05 |
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| cbx33 | good afternoon all ! | 02:05 |
| jsgotangco | hi | 02:05 |
| Fujitsu | Late evening, cbx33. | 02:05 |
| cbx33 | what a sucky day ! | 02:05 |
| cwillu | so is that still under development, the stuff that page is talking about? | 02:06 |
| jsgotangco | cbx33: we all have that | 02:06 |
| cbx33 | jsgotangco: do you have 500 kids running round the place thinking they own it? | 02:06 |
| cbx33 | :p | 02:06 |
| cbx33 | anyone heard of glscube ? | 02:06 |
| jsgotangco | cbx33: i have 20,000 simultaneous people in a server if you would like an anology | 02:06 |
| cbx33 | heh | 02:07 |
| cbx33 | we'll call it even :p | 02:07 |
| jsgotangco | except most of these people online are consenting adults | 02:07 |
| cbx33 | ah | 02:07 |
| cbx33 | and not annoying little brats | 02:07 |
| cbx33 | who have now started nicking pc components out of the machines | 02:08 |
| cwillu | heh; I'm guessing I'm in for a world of fun if I want to use captive-fs here, huh? :) | 02:08 |
| cbx33 | cwillu: what for ntfs writing? | 02:08 |
| cwillu | local drive | 02:08 |
| cwillu | doing weird stuff for the hell of it | 02:08 |
| cbx33 | an ntfs partition? | 02:09 |
| cwillu | yes | 02:09 |
| cbx33 | there is an ntfs fuse module now | 02:09 |
| cwillu | not full write support though | 02:09 |
| cwillu | I believe captive uses fuse though (?) | 02:09 |
| cbx33 | maybe nbot full but it worked ok for me? | 02:09 |
| cbx33 | unless they renamed it | 02:09 |
| cbx33 | get the latest knoppix disc and look for a command called ntfsmount | 02:09 |
| cbx33 | it mounts an ntfs partition | 02:10 |
| cbx33 | rw | 02:10 |
| cwillu | basically, I feel much more comfortable using the driver that created the damn thing in the first place :) | 02:11 |
| cbx33 | but of course | 02:11 |
| cwillu | I don't recall getting a warm fuzzy feeling re: what I recall of the limitations vs dbaseIII work (yay :/) | 02:12 |
| cwillu | either way; what I'd almost like is a zero footprint netboot, livecd ish | 02:12 |
| cwillu | really, I should just go to bed before I do anything stupid, come to think of it | 02:13 |
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| cbx33 | hosed his pc :D | 02:14 |
| cwillu | ooo, fun | 02:14 |
| cwillu | see, part of my problem is I've got so many to hose, that I end up just ignoring the hosed one | 02:15 |
| cwillu | but they're scattered all over the city, so it's a pain to get a nice fresh (previously hosed but now ignorant of the reason) one | 02:15 |
| cbx33 | hehe I know the feeling | 02:20 |
| cbx33 | :D | 02:20 |
| cwillu | so, x is launched with a broadcast for an xdmcp'ish server? if I installed gdm or something as silly as ubuntu-desktop, would that do what I might think it might do? | 02:22 |
| Fujitsu | No, not XDMCP. | 02:23 |
| cwillu | most specifically, would I actually get a local prompt, possibly with the xdmcp option (and specifically if I changed the default x session to be a chooser?) | 02:23 |
| Fujitsu | It tunnels over SSH, then launches X through the SSH tunnel. | 02:23 |
| cwillu | right, that's that certificate regeneration thingie you need to run if the server changes ip | 02:24 |
| Fujitsu | Not certificate, but yes. | 02:24 |
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| cwillu | is there any way I can get the chroot to use the cached packages from my main install? | 02:27 |
| cwillu | I really don't want to download 390 from a 10kb/s connection | 02:27 |
| cwillu | 390mB that is | 02:27 |
| cwillu | hard link /var/cache/apt/ into /opt/ltsp/i386/var/cache/apt/? :) | 02:29 |
| ogra | i think even a softlink should work | 02:30 |
| cwillu | soft=symbolic? | 02:31 |
| ogra | yep | 02:32 |
| Fujitsu | Hmm.... No, I don't think a symbolic link would work, as it installs the very base system, chroots, then installs the rest. | 02:32 |
| Fujitsu | And once it chroots, the symlink is invalid. | 02:32 |
| cwillu | so hardlink...? | 02:33 |
| cwillu | and what else does that break :) | 02:33 |
| cwillu | maybe a unionfs approach would be safer | 02:33 |
| cwillu | alternatively, I could just copy everything couldn't I | 02:35 |
| cwillu | but the real pressing question: do I fire up the oven so I can cook a pizza? | 02:37 |
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| jsgotangco | goodnight | 03:47 |
| ogra | night jsgotangco | 03:47 |
| jsgotangco | hey ogra, sorry was a bit busy today, got to do some pretty good malone work | 03:48 |
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| ogra | sorry ? what for ? | 03:48 |
| jsgotangco | =) | 03:49 |
| jsgotangco | all of us are busy atm but after uvf things should be more interesting | 03:49 |
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| bddebian | Morning | 03:51 |
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| sbalneav | Gave up on gaim, installed xchat :) | 03:58 |
| ogra | hehe | 03:58 |
| cbx33 | hey ogra | 04:09 |
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| Petaris | Hello all | 04:58 |
| Petaris | I don't suppose anyone has worked with bacula on edubuntu? | 04:58 |
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| Petaris | ok, I found bacula in univers | 06:10 |
| Petaris | er, universe | 06:10 |
| Petaris | now to get it configured | 06:10 |
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| LaserJock | good morning Edubuntu! | 06:15 |
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| LaserJock | wb ogra ;-) how long do you have until you will move to your new place? | 06:19 |
| ogra | end of the month the move has to be done | 06:20 |
| LaserJock | k | 06:20 |
| ogra | i moved the rest of my office yesterday ... and i'll take either next or the week afterwards off | 06:21 |
| LaserJock | ogra: is bug #52552 because you had to remove lang packs? | 06:22 |
| lucasvo | ogra: btw, did you upload already any changes to edgy? | 06:24 |
| ogra | lucasvo, yes | 06:26 |
| ogra | for ltsp | 06:26 |
| ogra | LaserJock, the user needs the es locales installed and language-pack-es-base (or however its called) ... that cant work ... | 06:27 |
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| LaserJock | ogra: what can't work? | 06:36 |
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| cbx33 | hi ogra | 07:32 |
| cbx33 | got a sec in pm? | 07:32 |
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| cbx33 | ping ogra | 07:51 |
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| sbalneav_ | reconfiguring my network somewhat. | 09:31 |
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| cberlo | Hi folks. Anyone set up an Edubuntu LTSP authenticating against Windows? | 09:34 |
| Burgwork | cberlo, you talking about AD? | 09:38 |
| cberlo | Yep | 09:38 |
| Burgwork | it is currently not as easy it sounds. ajmitch is working on something with SoC that should make it eaiser | 09:39 |
| cberlo | Burgwork: and I'd like to be able to map user home directories from Windows into a "Files" folder in their Linux home. So far, I've been fairly successful, but I can't get the mounting stuff... | 09:39 |
| cberlo | Burgwork: Have you used pam_mount, by any chance? | 09:41 |
| Burgwork | nope sorry | 09:41 |
| Burgwork | I avoid messy things like actually using edubuntu ;) | 09:41 |
| cberlo | I'm beginning to think I may need to try another avenue to get this all to work. Seems like I can get most of what I want working, but mounting the drives is kinda critical... | 09:42 |
| LaserJock | cberlo: have you tried emailing the edubuntu-users list? | 09:43 |
| cberlo | LaserJock: No, not yet. Still searching to see if there is a more direct answer that I've missed. That's on my list of things to do. | 09:43 |
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| cberlo | LaserJock: Okay, I'm done searching the list for answers, and I've fired off a request for help with my issues... Hopefully that will help. Thanks! | 09:59 |
| LaserJock | great, I hope it helps too | 10:01 |
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| cbx33 | Hi all | 11:05 |
| === cbx33 is getting to the point of actually hating Microsoft | ||
| LaserJock | \o/ | 11:05 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 11:05 |
| cbx33 | I hated it before but I'm at new levels of hate now | 11:05 |
| cbx33 | 31 mins to do a spyware xcan | 11:05 |
| cbx33 | and it's still going | 11:05 |
| cbx33 | I wish I was writing rules files abour now | 11:06 |
| cbx33 | 75000, objects scanned | 11:06 |
| cbx33 | :( | 11:10 |
| cbx33 | I've wasted 36 minutes of my life watching this | 11:10 |
| cbx33 | there is no progress bar | 11:10 |
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