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z00m_i think it would have been better installing the 32bit version, lets just hope they bring out more 64bit apps12:08
gioacchinoI must remove  wine 0.9.9 and install wine  20030115  ?12:08
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ChefWillanyone know the command line command to show battery life?12:08
RawSewagegioacchino, maybe ask in #Ubuntu12:09
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fek_ChefWill: cat /proc/acpi/BAT0/state12:10
fek_or BAT112:10
gatekeeperz00m_: got to scoot off, will keep my eye out for you, sorry I was unable to help12:10
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z00m_hey no worries friend, you did help me find out that there is not an amd64 version ... lol12:11
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z00m_gatekeeper: take care speak later ;)12:11
gatekeeperz00m_: you take care too speak later :-)12:12
actinicno sound in UT ... 'open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy' <---error message12:12
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actinicanyone experience this?12:12
crimsunactinic: make sure nothing has grabbed /dev/*dsp* prior to your executing UT.12:12
crimsunlsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*12:12
actinicand if so?12:13
crimsunkill those processes.12:13
actinickillall artsd worked12:13
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actinicwhy in Kubuntu?  Never a prob  in Ubuntu12:14
tron_i need help. i cant get easyubuntu to download, it keeps getting 404 errors12:14
Ashexdoes anyone else have issues with youtube and the sound lagging?12:14
actinicmaybe easyubuntu is down?12:14
gioacchinohow to get Wine 20030115  ????????????12:14
gioacchinoI searc it but I found wine 0.9.1612:15
Ashexwho needs easyubuntu?12:16
tron_i do12:17
RawSewageI dont have Flash installed now, but when I did, YouTube sound lagged12:17
tron_i keep getting 404 errors12:17
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tron_and package not found12:17
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AshexDownload easyubuntu from here:
AshexI threw it on my server for ya12:18
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tron_do i just get everything there?12:19
Ashexdownload that file and extract the contents12:19
actinic404 error: server is down12:19
actinicthat's always the case12:19
Ashexand then in konsole run python easyubuntu.py12:20
Ashexand you'll be up and running12:20
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Ashexif you want to distribute that link use http://local.chipnick.com/~ahmed/easyubuntu.tar.gz12:20
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tron_what do i type to run python?12:21
tron_run python easyubuntu.py?12:21
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erovdigg.com still aligns text to the left too much.. although the font is changed (and it looks sickly)12:23
erovi preferred the dejavu sans12:23
gioacchinohow to istall a tar.bz2 ??12:23
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senseiYou don't12:23
h3sp4wngioacchino: pbuilder can take a tar.bz2 and make a package12:24
erovwhich it says it still is but.. argh.. those msttcorefonts made everything look really bad in konqueror12:24
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gioacchinohow to istall a tar.bz2  with tar command??12:24
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erovheh no problem at least someone gave me a try12:25
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gioacchinotar -xvf ?12:25
RawSewageyou can uninstall them12:25
erovand you say it appears fine in your Konq right?12:25
erovyeah i know12:25
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erov<-- doing :D12:25
RawSewagewww.digg.com only shows me a header logo.  I cant even see the page12:25
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Ashextar zxvf12:25
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erovthats probably because for some reason the entire page is blocked by the default strings konqueror filters12:25
korielI'm getting an error that cdrecord don't have permissions to open the device....12:25
erovin it's "ad filter" section .. thats what happened to me anyways12:26
Ashexbleh, konqueror is like the equivelant of IE IMO12:26
RawSewageI love Konqueror12:26
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AshexIt works well, but it hates me I guess12:26
erovi do too.. only problem ive ever had with it12:27
tron_ok, im an idiot, i cant get this easyubuntu installed12:27
erovis this .. when digg upgraded their page.. with even more css12:27
ahmet_Multisession DVD mount problem12:27
RawSewageI disabled adblocker so I can look12:27
gioacchinogzip: stdin: not in gzip format  no gx but bz212:27
tron_i extracted it all and now i cant figure out how to run it12:27
RawSewageerov, are you talking about the yellow box overlappping the title12:27
ahmet_i do not DVDR1660P1 mount12:27
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erovminor annoyance but the problem exists doesnt it?? the kde bugs list had people disagreeing and saying it looks fine on theirs12:28
omeowRawSewage: I only have a sligt misalignment problem. (And it takes quite a long time to load the page.)12:28
omeowI'll stick with Opera, thank you. ;)12:28
erovyes its slight but it exists.. thats all im trying to verify12:28
RawSewageerov, well, you werent seeing things, if thats any consolation12:28
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erovyes thank you ! :D12:28
erovit's got to be a khtml css rendering problem12:29
erovminor but it is12:29
ahmet_how mulsession dvd mount12:29
erovi'll re-open the bug session, thanks12:29
RawSewageerov, could be a Kubuntu thing12:29
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omeowI doubt it.12:29
erovim gonna do some playing12:30
omeowI don't think Kubuntu is changing the KHTML rendering engine for their releases.12:30
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RawSewageKubuntu messes with Konqueror12:30
omeowYes, but with the rendering engine too?12:30
RawSewagethey remove lots of features, to make it easier for Windows idiots12:30
h3sp4wnWhat features ?12:31
RawSewagelots of options, which Ive restored12:31
RawSewagesuch as per-folder config12:31
RawSewagethe Go menu12:31
h3sp4wnWell they are still there then12:31
h3sp4wnUnless you have rebuilt kde12:31
RawSewageyeah, you have to change the .rc file, or whatever12:31
RawSewageI see what you mean.  same engine though12:32
erovcss is relatively new.. its not unlikely that it is a minor alignment issue .. digg was probably built on/for mozilla/ie anyways.. it may be the result of an IE css hack which backfires on other rendering engines12:32
h3sp4wnI prefer kcontrol to the system settings12:32
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RawSewagefor System settings, I prefer adding  Settings to KMenu12:32
RawSewageit gives you a nice menu system, with submenus, right from KMenu12:33
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korielwhy I'm not able to write cds but I can write dvds...when trying to write a cd I'm getting permission error of cdrecord12:33
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adrianoci install kubuntu, and install gimp fro "apt-get install", but i wanted to install it in Portuguese, how i make ?12:36
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tron_how do i install easyubuntu once ive downloaded it?12:39
iarwain_ben-adarhi tron, what kind of file is it?12:39
tron_i guess12:40
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tron_i cant pm with you because im not registered12:40
iarwain_ben-adarisn't there a readme with the download? :D12:40
iarwain_ben-adarbut remember that you use Kubuntu (so you should have Easy Kubuntu ;-) )12:41
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tat_anyone has working read/write access to a ntfs partition in kubuntu ?12:41
tron_is there an easykubuntu?12:41
iarwain_ben-adarsupposedly, but i did not find it useful12:42
tat_tron_ : more easy than it is allready ??12:42
arseniqi know how to use apt-get a little so what is the keyword for gnome?12:42
h3sp4wntron_: join #easyubuntu12:42
tat_arseniq : do you mean ubuntu-desktop ?12:42
iarwain_ben-adarmy bad :D12:42
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tron_h3sp4wn theres no one in there12:42
arseniqtat_: i think so12:43
arseniqi saw a screenshot named ubuntu-desktop12:43
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arseniqthat i remembered i like gnome more than kde12:43
tat_arseniq : so apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, and you will get the desktop of ubuntu which is gnomew12:43
arseniqtat_: will i lost the kde?12:44
tat_so are there any hints for ntfs, kernel version some trick to get it work ??12:44
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse12:44
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erovcaptive tat_12:45
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tat_arseniq : i don't think so, but the window manager will be changed from kdm to gdm12:45
arseniqtat_: thanks alot12:45
tat_erov : i use ntfsmount with fuse, isn't this liek the same ?12:45
erovi guess, i dont know as i havent used it personally just read the claims of captive-ntfs before i switched.. but when I eventually did I wiped my ntfs drives when I was happy (i know this isnt going to work for you just explaining why i never did ) :P12:46
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erovuses the native dll's from windows right?12:47
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amadeus_i am trying to install kubuntu on an empty partition. i split the partition into two so that i can allocate a root and a swap area. but for some reason the installation program still wants to include my windows partition. can someone help me?12:51
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SpAwNhello all im trying to use nmap.....but i keep gettng this....even though im running it as root http://pastebin.ca/8362801:00
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z00m_SpAwN: have you got a firewall setup ?01:06
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ChefWillanyone know if there is a way to flip the desktop?01:12
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Murfy^sure, flip your monitor01:13
Murfy^just curious, why would you want to do that ChefWill?01:14
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ChefWillwell the way i have my laptop setup at times id need it flipped the other way to see it right01:15
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arseniqhow can i install divx, xvid etc. codecs with apt-get?01:15
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mossmanarseniq  try searhing for a program called automatix,  it will load codecs for you01:26
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ChefWillanyone here use the current applications bar?01:35
ChefWillte mac os x style01:35
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tron_i need help, again... how do i change ownership from root?01:39
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tron_so i just type this: sudo chown user:group?01:41
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tron_do i need to restart after that01:42
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KaiHanaridoes anyone here know how to send a wake on lan packet?01:43
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BluDog_Anchoritei thought any packet woke it up01:43
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KaiHanariBluDog_Anchorite, if that were the case it would never stay off01:44
Eeyoreif any packet woke it up, every broadcast packet would wake it up01:44
sysrpli am having problems compiling glibc ... i am using ../glibc-2.4/configure --prefix=/usr --disable-profile --enable-add-ons --enable-kernel=2.6.0 --libexecdir=/usr/lib/glibc ,,, and then make, but make fails with *** No rule to make target `Versions.all', needed by `abi-versions.h'.  Stop.01:44
sysrplcan anyone tell me how to fix that?01:44
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I_Died_Oncequestion: adept exited telling me that the packages I was installing caused a conflict, breaking my dependencies01:52
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)01:52
I_Died_OnceI cannot get adept to re-open01:52
I_Died_Oncemay day - help01:52
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EeyoreI_Died_Once: what is going on ?01:54
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I_Died_OnceI was installing stuff with adept01:54
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I_Died_Onceit exited saying an error caused a dependency prob, something to that effect01:54
I_Died_Oncei cant open adept, says the database is locked01:54
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TheHighChildI_Died_Once: sudo dpkg --cofingure -a01:55
GrundeeI have an Nvidia GeForce 7800GT graphics card. I need to use the drivers from nvidia.com in order to use X server (if I do not the screen gets messed up and the program will not exit). When I install Kubuntu I go through the install, reboot, have it configure packages, then start X. It does not work, I reboot in recovery mode to copy drivers from NTFS partition and run them. But I have no compiler to compile them. I download a compi01:56
Grundee...I have no sources for kernel. Try to download them, dselect and apt-get are having tons of errors that they can not stat files and directories because something is not found... What should I do?01:56
SpAwNGrundee: u need to install build-essential01:57
Grundeeapt-get build-essential ?01:57
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Grundeeapt-get instal*01:57
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SpAwNGrundee: try it..i suck at spelling01:57
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SpAwNcould be spelled diff01:57
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GrundeeThat command: "apt-get install build-essential"? That will get compiler, binutils and other junk? Kernel headers and kernel source?01:58
SpAwNGrundee: this is a great how-to for manualy installing the driver http://transgaming.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=578601:58
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SpAwNGrundee: that will install make gcc and a few other things01:58
SpAwNGrundee: u will then need to install thekernel source for you currecnt kernel01:59
AmazingRussany of you know anything about openal++?01:59
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omeowapt-get install nvidia-glx and the kernel sources for your kernel should be enough.01:59
omeowI mean linux-restricted-modules.01:59
SpAwNomeow: some ppl have had probs with that driver......i am one of them02:00
omeowWhat kind of problems?02:00
SpAwNomeow: plus with the officail driveri get better fps02:00
SpAwNomeow: it froze my system 2 times02:00
omeowBut that is the official driver. =/02:00
SpAwNomeow: i know02:00
SpAwNomeow:but im telling ya the officail one made a big diff02:00
Grundeenvidia-glx does not work for me.02:01
omeowI can't imagine why.02:01
SpAwNomeow: i ran glxgears with the ubuntu ones......got around 12000-13000 fps....i then installed the ones from the nvidia site and got 14000-1500002:02
SpAwNplus the colors look better on this one02:03
SpAwNin et the colors where off with the ubuntu ones.......dont know why...but these are my experiences with them02:03
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ubotuI know nothing about patiance02:05
ubotuI know nothing about gemidjy02:06
SpAwNGrundee: also on that tutorial....the last step says to reboot....u dont need to....after u modprobe it just restart x and it should worl02:06
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usp8riotcan someone tell me how to solve this error? bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('02:08
gemidjyusp8riot: put another `02:08
usp8rioti'm trying to run an emulator but the konsole doesn't understand the ( key02:08
gemidjywhat "(" key02:08
usp8riotthe game has a ( in the title02:08
gemidjyeither rename it, or use <tab>02:09
visik7use a \02:09
gemidjyusp8riot: type the first letters of the file and press tab02:09
usp8riottab doesn't work all the time02:09
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gemidjyusp8riot: is it executable?02:09
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osohhi all02:09
usp8riotno, just a .smc file, a sega rom02:10
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gemidjythen use \02:10
gemidjyfile\ where\ spaces\ exist02:10
usp8riotok, tried using / instead of \ and got a couldn't load rom error02:10
gemidjysort of02:10
gemidjythen it is Rom/emulator err02:11
usp8riotok, that maybe why, i'll try again02:11
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usp8riotthis is lame, it's like the _ DOS deal where DOS doesn't understand what a space is02:12
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usp8riotwtf is up with making consoles that don't understand a key?02:12
omeowCould just use quotation marks.02:13
omeowInstead of escaping everything.02:13
gemidjyusp8riot: what is so difficult to rename it02:13
usp8riotthanks, i'll try it. the file name and directory is really long02:13
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omeowWhy not do it in konqueror?02:13
usp8riotgemidjy: because i got 1000's of roms02:13
omeowMay I recommend krename? :)02:14
gemidjyusp8riot: use KFileReplace02:14
usp8riotomeow: good idea. exactly how? open with....?02:14
omeowyou'll have to install it via adept02:14
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usp8riotanyone in here use a genesis emulator?02:15
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dr_willisusp8riot,  i have in the past. :P02:15
gemidjynevargh heard ofd02:15
dr_willisusp8riot,  i tend tocollect emulators.02:16
omeowI used to use one on Windows, but never used one on Linux.02:16
kakaltoI'm having a rather interesting problem with kernels - when I install the k7 kernel, I can't boot it in normal mode, but I can in recovery mode, no problems. when I disable 'quiet splash' boot options, I get all the output, and it has no errors. However, it stops at keyboard. My keyboard/mouse combo is wireless. I have two options for plugging it in - through 1 (one) USB plug, or with 2 PS/2 plugs, one for mouse, the other for keyboard. bu02:16
kakaltoet the same problem. Have I been chasing a red herring, or could my wireless kb/mouse have something to do with it?02:16
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dr_willisi got one for my Dreamcast :)02:16
ubotunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager02:16
kakaltoExtra note: I can boot the -386 kernel fine02:17
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usp8riotdr_willis: yeah, i have lots and dvd's full of roms. now if i can just find some good emu's to run them in linux02:17
dr_willis!info gens02:17
ubotuPackage gens does not exist in dapper02:17
dr_willisheh - apt-cache search emulator02:18
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usp8rioti tried gens but it said i was missing sdl something when i tried to install02:18
usp8rioti got dgen going running sonic but it kind of sucks, just as i heard02:19
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dr_willisinstall the sdl   deps I guess. not messed with it inages02:19
BluDog_Anchoriteusp8riot, zsnes is good for your snes games02:19
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dr_willisoften the emulators  are a littel out of date for Ubuntu.  they update so fast - the disrto cant keep up02:19
usp8riotBluDog_Anchorite: yeah, i got it, it's pretty good02:19
BluDog_Anchoritemame works as it does in windows.  tuxnes aint to bad, but i have yet to find a decent emu for sega02:20
I_Died_OnceHow do I manually unlock the database for adept?02:20
I_Died_Oncesudo dpkg --cofingure -a did not work02:20
usp8riotzophar's domain says dgen is the best if it will work but apparently my sdl packs or something are too new02:20
omeowI_Died_Once: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock02:20
dr_williscould always use wine and a windows emulator. :P02:21
dr_willisick eh?02:21
dr_willisactually i think that "MESS" can do sega emulation02:21
usp8riotdr_willis: yeah, but i've never gotten anything working with wine02:21
BluDog_Anchoriteyes it can02:21
BluDog_Anchoritebut extreamly slow02:21
usp8riotdo you use wine for programs installed in windows or do i have to install them using wine?02:22
BluDog_Anchoritemess was never that good to me, other than for nes games02:22
dr_willisslow is my amiga emulator on my Pent I system. :P02:22
BluDog_Anchoriteusp8riot, install them using wine02:22
dr_willisusp8riot,  it can do either.. but its best to install them with wine02:22
usp8riotemulating windows emulating a console...the things pc's are capable of these days02:23
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dr_willisThere used to be a 'contest' to nest as many emulators as ya could. :P02:24
dr_willislinux, running vmware, running windows, running the amiga emulator, with the amiga emu running a dos emulator,,, and that running a C64 emulator...02:25
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usp8riotlol, that would be something02:25
dr_willisthat reminds me - i never did get that XEN working.02:26
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usp8rioti haven't tried it. if it's on zophar's domain, i got it for linux02:27
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kakaltodr_willis: it's not an issue with my wireless kb/mouse, gladly =)02:27
dr_willisa lot of the stuff for zophars - needs to be updated in their reviews02:27
kakaltogive me a moment, I'll tell what happened02:28
dr_willisthey got pages/comments  that aint been touched in ages. :P02:28
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usp8rioti noticed02:28
I_Died_Onceone more question - how do i enable the root account so I can su and not have to keep sudo'ing ???02:28
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kakaltook, so the -k7 kernel will not boot on my system with the kernel boot options 'noapic nolapic', whereas the -386 kernel will boot with such options.02:29
LjL!tell I_Died_Once about sudo02:29
LjLI_Died_Once: short answer: don't do that. just use "sudo -i" if you really need to stay root for a while.02:29
omeowalways the same funny answer.02:30
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AlphaxI_Died_Once, or "sudo bash" :)02:30
kakalto'kdesu konsole'02:30
I_Died_Once...I've done it before but forgot how02:30
kakaltook, so...02:30
LjLok then, then just enable root, mess up your systems, and come here complaining that KControl doesn't work and this and that don't work.02:31
kakaltokernel boot options 'noapic nolapic' do exactly what?02:31
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usp8riotkakalto: i think it's for the power saving features, unless i'm mistaken with apci02:33
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kakaltoapci is definately power saving, dunno what apic is02:33
usp8riotyeah, i get them mixed up, i was wondering what the other does02:34
I_Died_OnceI got another question... Theres an updated version of amarok in the kubuntu.org/packages site... I cannot get adept to recognize it so I can install the updated version02:35
kakaltoI think it's time for the handy dandy.....02:35
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I_Died_OnceHow I've put it in the manage repositories part of adept, hit enable - nothing02:36
omeowI_Died_Once: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php02:36
kakaltowhere on earth is konqueror's "windows" menu? I can't make new panes...02:36
omeowMake sure to hit apply before you close the repository management.02:36
omeowThen fetch the updates, and then upgrade.02:36
kakaltoAPIC = Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller02:36
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I_Died_OnceI'm there already... shouldnt I install it with adept though?02:37
kakaltoACPI = Advanced Configuration and Power Interface02:37
omeowOf course you should.02:37
luksankakalto: it's disabled in Kubuntu by default ;-)02:37
usp8riotahah, by george you've got it. i've always been too lazy to look it up02:37
kakaltoluksan: naturally =/02:38
luksankakalto: they tried to "simplify" it02:38
kakaltoluksan: and how do I re-enable it?02:38
kakaltofair enough I suppose02:38
kakaltoI'm probably one in 100 who actually use multiple panes02:38
I_Died_Oncethat,,,, and I'd liek to update to the latest version of KDE02:38
luksankakalto: hold on02:38
kakaltoI_Died_Once: have you heard of Automatix?02:38
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I_Died_Oncelink me so I can leave you guys alone02:39
kakaltoor am I not allowed to speak that name in this channel?02:39
kakaltouhm one moment please02:39
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omeowHey, I don't mind you asking questions, I_Died_Once.02:39
kakaltoI_Died_Once: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20329402:39
usp8riotkakalto: you mean multiple tabs? i use them all the time in konquerer02:40
kakaltogreat script if you ask me.02:40
I_Died_Onceso.. you gotta enable a reopsitory for each program suite?02:40
omeowJust for the updates.02:40
kakaltousp8riot: no, multiple panes on each tab; split each tab into halves, quarters, etc.02:40
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omeow(meaning you enable it when you want to get the version earlier than before it's released on the main repositories.)02:40
kakaltoI_Died_Once: for every program suite that isn't in the default repos02:40
usp8riotoh, well, you probaby are one  of a few02:41
kakaltomaybe I micromanage files and compare web pages too often xD02:41
luksankakalto: i can get the "Standard Konqueror Menu & Toolbar Layout" for you02:41
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cbotari just emerged kubuntu and windows wont start02:42
kakaltoluksan: nah, don't worry about it, I'll sort it out :)02:42
I_Died_OnceSo... all these folders / "programs" I see at http://kubuntu.org/packages - are most of these where i can ebable them as repositories?02:42
luksankakalto: cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc02:43
kakaltoI_Died_Once: yeah.02:43
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I_Died_OnceWow, I've NEVER heard that before02:44
kakaltoI_Died_Once: did you notice there's only 2 or 3 programs there? the rest are copies or earlier versions for earlier ubuntu?02:44
I_Died_Twicenot really02:44
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource02:44
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I_Died_OnceHow do I find out what version of KDE i'm running?02:46
omeowclick help => about KDE in any KDE program02:46
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I_Died_Onced'oh, I should have known that02:46
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I_Died_Onceyou get so deep in the technical blahblah of it you forget something simple02:47
RawSewageso how would I go about, for example, installing the latest Amarok02:47
DanielWmhh, what is the trick to get dri running with a ati mobility radeon 7500 (r100)?02:47
DanielWthe readon xorg modul should support it, but mhh i don't know how02:48
usp8riotwould anyone know why my x server doesn't start when i have edited my mouse settings?02:49
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dr_willisX may detecta a mouse is not set up right and exit.02:51
dr_willisI would guess ya set up the mouse wrong.02:51
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usp8rioti would say so but i just don't see why it would affect the display02:52
usp8rioti'm pretty sure i didn't touch the video settings in x config. trying to get my mx518 to work with high res and all buttons02:52
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dr_willisIf    X detexts that there is no Mouse.. it will Fail to start. becasue thats how its designed.02:53
dr_willistheres an option to let it start anyway.. but i forget what it is.02:53
dr_willistry 'startx' and see what the error messages say02:53
kakaltoah right...02:53
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kakaltoluksan: cheers for all that, but it's just that the menu has been relocated to the 'view' menu, which actually makes sense02:54
usp8riotyeah, i'll try that02:54
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luksankakalto: but it has all the options, right?02:56
luksanmy Konqueror menu doesn't allow me to split the window02:57
luksanany more02:57
kakaltoluksan: really? under view----> Split View menu?02:57
gemidjydamn this kubuntu desktop, when I save some file from other application on Desktop, it doesn't appear on the desktop and it is in ~/Desktop02:57
gemidjyanyones noticed this, has this?02:57
luksankakalto: strangely enough... but it's like i remember it being there at one time02:57
kakaltogemidjy: the desktop is probably configured to not show any icons02:57
luksankakalto: hold on02:57
gemidjykakalto: I am idiot but not moron, u know02:58
gemidjythere are icons02:58
dr_willisluksan,  there used to ba a lot of  'profiles' i recall  also that did some neat tricks ike that.02:58
dr_willisluksan,  ive also notiuced they are gone. :(02:58
kakaltogemidjy: well hey, don't go off at me. my default desktop disables icons.02:58
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unix_infidelmy wm doesnt use icons :)02:58
unix_infidelbooyah :)02:58
gemidjybug to bug02:58
kakaltodr_willis: I think the idea of 'profiles' is, if you want them, you can make them.02:58
gemidjyhow can this be, kde work perfectly in slack and make problems in kubuntu02:59
dr_williskakalto,  ya  - but there used tobe a lot of 'example' ones..02:59
gemidjywho messes kde02:59
dr_willisi liked the one that had  icons at top and a shell at the bottom.02:59
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luksandr_willis: kakalto: i figured it out03:00
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luksandr_willis: kakalto: Konq has to be opened in "File Management" mode03:00
kakaltodr_willis: =D03:00
kakaltoluksan: ah k.03:00
kakaltowell that's the default mode, isn't it?03:00
luksannot for me03:00
kakaltoneither. but I can split view in web profile, too03:01
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RawSewageOk, I installed the latest amarok by adding    deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main    to my repos list03:01
RawSewageshould I remove it from the repos list, now that it's installed?03:02
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luksankakalto: it's different from profiles03:02
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kakaltoluksan, hrm k, not sure exactly what you're talking about then03:02
luksankakalto: me either03:03
luksanif i type "konqueror" i do not get the split window things03:03
luksanbut if i type "konqueror /home/luke" i do03:03
luksanwhat the fsck03:03
erovraw sewage wont matter.. if a newer one supercedes it will flash "install" in the future03:03
kakaltoluksan: it's an issue on your system. if I just run konq, I can still split view03:03
RawSewageerov, ok thx03:03
RawSewageerov, did you ever fix the Digg problem03:03
erovnope not in Konq..03:04
erovits ok in other browsers just konqueror shifts the text to the left a little.. nothing major just "not right"03:04
erovi submitted it to the kubuntu "bugs" as well03:04
luksanand dr_willis's system03:04
erovjust to see if im crazy or if they can answer03:04
luksanwhy don't they just admit that Konqueror is as buggy as hell03:05
erovor if it's digg's fault for "hacking" css to work with ie603:05
RawSewageI like Konqueror03:05
kakalto!tell me about beagle03:06
ubotuI know nothing about beagle03:06
erovi do too03:06
RawSewagewhy do you say it's buggy03:06
eroveven if it is buggy i hope they can fix it to be better.. i just like how well its integrated with the fs and desktop03:06
erovive got mine setup pretty nice03:06
kakaltoyeah, what kind of buggy?03:06
RawSewageI like the shortcuts03:06
erovfirefox as a backup03:06
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RawSewagefor example, in the address bar, I can type  ts  BLAH03:07
RawSewageand it searched TorrentSpy for BLAH03:07
erovyes that too raw03:07
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kakaltois beagle/or something similar installable and working for kubuntu?03:08
erovkakalto: my only complaint is www.digg.com and a FEW other sites having misaligned text/pictures03:08
RawSewagewhats Beagle03:08
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RawSewageIm new to Linux03:08
erovnothing major just "not right" as i said before03:08
kakaltoerov: ahk. well, konq does run off a different engine than other browsers, so the web code is quite likely interpreted slightly differently03:09
usp8riotkakalto: i think that's a browser problem03:09
kakaltoRawSewage: desktop search03:09
erovalthough i will add this didnt happen until digg upgraded to their new css style03:09
usp8riotmine does the same thing in windows03:09
RawSewageBeagle is a search tool that ransacks your personal information space to find whatever you're looking for. Beagle can search in many different domains.03:09
RawSewageoh, like Google Desktop03:09
RawSewagedoesnt it work in KDE?03:10
kakaltowell, it's made for GTK/GNOME. however, I can't quite recall what the QT/KDE equivalent is called right now03:10
kakaltoSuSE Linux has it by default I think03:10
KDEfanboyerov: oh, only slight problems? digg.com is entirely unusable for me03:10
kakaltothat's one of them03:10
usp8rioti'm using beagle on kubuntu03:10
kakaltothere were 2 of them03:10
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kakaltoI remember Kat just wouldn't work for me under gentoo03:11
luksani've found those search tools to be pretty useless anyway03:11
luksanif you're not a drooling fool you know where to find your files03:11
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eXCeSSany idea on this problem? http://pastebin.ca/8374503:11
kakaltoeh, I figured, I'll install it, and if I start to use it, cool. if I don't, I'll remove it in a month's time03:11
kakaltoKerry. that's the one that worked..... .but I didn't use under gentoo03:12
usp8rioti'm a drooling fool. i don't know where crap is at on linux03:12
RawSewageI think I'll try that03:12
kakaltoI have issues trying to find files on windows, lol...03:12
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kakaltoI go to the file manager, looking for my /data partition, sit there for a minute, then realise "oh right. E:\"03:12
usp8riotwhen you got 320 gigs of files it helps to have a search utiliity03:12
RawSewagebig program03:12
RawSewage25 mb03:13
kakaltousp8riot: that's one way of looking at it, but all that data has to be indexed, too.03:13
usp8riotkakalto: yeah, that's why i'm also just trying beagle out. google desktop search used loads of resources indexing03:14
RawSewagekakalto, are you installing kerry now03:14
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kakaltoRawSewage: nah, not yet, but will do soon03:14
RawSewageit's downloaind Beagle things for Kerry03:14
kakaltoRawSewage: Kerry is just a frontend for beagle03:15
usp8riotanyone know why i keep getting permission denied when trying to run ./configure on a specific file? i'm logged in as su03:15
kakaltousp8riot: the 'configure' file isn't chmoded executable?03:15
eXCeSSsudo ./configure03:15
kakaltochmod +x ./configure03:15
kakaltothen sudo ./configure03:15
usp8riotok, thanks03:15
usp8riotsudo ./configure = command not found03:16
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kakaltoif you're logged in as su, then should just be ./configure03:16
usp8riotok, thanks, had to do the chmod +x first03:16
kakaltothat's usually the only reason you'll get "permission denied" as root03:17
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usp8riotwhat's with the files though? i just dl'ed it like that and apparently it was configged i had no  execute permissions as root03:17
kakaltothe _file_ must be modded as executable03:18
kakaltonot the user03:18
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oomph_7good evenning everyon03:20
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RawSewagehow do you get programs to start at startup03:20
dr_willisdepends on what startup you mean03:21
RawSewageI always restart with a clean session03:21
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RawSewagerestart X03:21
kakaltooomph_7: good afternoon =)03:21
RawSewagewith a clean session03:21
RawSewagebut would like certain programs to open03:21
usp8riotRawSewage: i think there's a file in your home/user directory for one03:21
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RawSewageok ty03:21
usp8rioti read on google though how they done it for a program and it was more complicated. i think it depends on how and what starts up03:22
usp8riotRawSewage: i also meant your home/user/.kde directory03:23
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AB3Ievening all03:26
oomph_7hawkwind: what is your website again03:27
Hawkwindoomph_7: http://LinuxForDummies.org/03:27
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AB3II just installed wine on a fresh dapper install. The program is running fine, and seems fully functional, but I have no sound at all. Anyone have any suggestions or things I'm missing? I'm afraid I've never successfully used wine before03:28
oomph_7thank you03:28
oomph_7hawkwind: any plans to add a kanotix forum? I actually use both kubuntu and kano :)03:28
oomph_7i found kano works better on my laptop03:28
Hawkwindoomph_7: I can add one if you think you can bring some users and get some posts to the section03:29
oomph_7yeah, that would be great03:29
oomph_7ill do my best to spread the word03:29
Hawkwindoomph_7: Okies.  I'll add it later tonight or tomorrow some time03:30
oomph_7hawkwind: have you tried kanotix?03:30
Hawkwindoomph_7: Nope, never have.03:30
oomph_7if you like kubuntu you would probably like it03:30
oomph_7good hardware support and fast :) nice user base too. Not as large as Kubuntu but they are very helpful folks03:31
Hawkwindoomph_7: I'll have to give it a try some time.  No spare boxes at the moment03:31
unix_infidelvmware :)03:31
oomph_7aye, vmware is great for that03:31
usp8riotanyone know a bandwidth monitor? i can't get full dl speeds so something must be eating up my bandwidth03:32
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unix_infideloomph_7: but it defeats the purpose of running a user friendly distro imho.03:32
unix_infideli mean you're emulating the hardware that you dont care about if its recognized or not :P03:32
oomph_7i finally settled on my distro choices, Kubuntu for my old desktop and Kanotix for my lappy03:32
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oomph_7yeah, vmware is good for testing features, look and feel more or less03:33
oomph_7but you are correct regarding the hardware03:33
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oomph_7there is an opensource virtual machine software too, right? how does it compare to vmware?03:34
unix_infidelxen, qemu, and the kqemu stuff isnt really open source.03:34
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oomph_7xen is opensource. right?03:35
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oomph_7how does it compare to vmware?03:35
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dr_willisxen is a different 'goal' then vmware03:37
dr_willisxen takes some readint to figure out what the *#@*&@& it really is supposed to be for. :)03:37
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DanielWis it correct that speedstep doesn't work at all in the kernel 2.6.15 ?03:43
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DanielWand how can i upgrade to a newer kernel?03:43
dr_willisapt-get update /upgrade should get the latest03:44
dr_willisHmm.. amazing - i have 500+ emails on my hotmail account.. and they say that 13 of them are spam....03:44
DanielWmhh this is 2.6.15-25. the one i am using know.03:44
dr_willisand guess what.. ALL of them are spam03:45
DanielWbut there are newer ones (on kernel.org)  and the 2.6.15 doesn't support speedstep (at least on kubuntu read that somewhere on the forums)03:45
kakaltodr_willis: lol. did you even expect hotmail to get it vaguely right?03:45
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dr_willisid at least expect them to get the viagra spam03:46
dr_willisactually now that i look at them - most are trying to sell/give away Rolex Watches03:46
kakaltoget many kind nigerians offering a deal of a lifetime?03:47
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dr_willisand things with subjects like "GetFreeViagraNowForAllYourneedsBestPrices"03:47
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erovfree viagra where do i put in my credit card for such fabulous gifts?!03:52
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kakaltoI'm just amazed at how many goodwilled nigerians there are in this world.03:55
kakaltoAll I need to give is my credit card number, and they'll just donate me some money!03:55
dr_willis'all natural  herbal viagra'03:56
erovand marijuana and ecstacy too if you visist 'some' sites03:57
dr_willis'unable to verify c.msn.com as a trusted site'03:58
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AshexSo, who needs help04:00
HobbseeAshex: sure, fix why my package wont build for me :P04:01
AshexWhat's your error?04:02
HobbseeAshex: no ./configure04:03
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Ashexand make doesn't work?04:04
Ashexpastebin the directory04:04
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HobbseeAshex: make does, it's just being annoying.  and it's packaging for repos :P04:19
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Ashexah, sucky04:20
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Ashex!tell me about pastebin04:25
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Eragonhey...i've tried everything with ndiswrapper and i still cant get my wireless network to work..i removed the bcm43xx mod and it took away my eth1 when i do iwconfig..but wlan0 still doesn't show up. im sure i have the right driver.. anyone can help?04:28
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Eragonanyone know where i can get bcm43xx-fwcutter04:29
MrObviousEragon: What kind of card?04:29
elknof1hey, hi everybody...   can someone help me with the line of reconfigure x??04:29
SpAwNhello all does kubuntu have a command simmiler to server servicename start?04:30
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Eragonbroadcom 430604:30
MrObviousI have Dapper on my other putter with a 4312 or 431304:31
Eragoni found this website http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18517404:31
Eragonbut its for ubuntu and i dunno how to get the packages04:32
MrObviousYou should be able to download them somewhere04:32
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we6jboI have a question04:32
unix_infidel can anyone recommend a good sql guide / howto / ebook?04:32
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MrObviousOh I have an 1804:33
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Eragoni've been trying since yesterday afternoon04:33
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DanielWSpAwN: mhh yes try /etc/init.d/servicename start04:34
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MrObviousEragon: It's doable.04:35
MrObviousJust do NOT use ndiswrapper04:35
Eragontnx mrObvious04:35
Eragoni shall try to find the package04:35
Eragonthis is frustrating04:35
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MrObviousFound it :)04:37
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MrObviousRun the fwcutter stuff, then modprobe yadayada after you compile the module04:38
MrObviousThen sudo ifup eth*04:38
MrObvioussudo iwconfig essid eth* *04:38
MrObvioussudo dhclient04:38
MrObviousThat'll get you set up04:38
MrObviousEragon: ping04:39
Eragono hey04:41
Eragoni found it too04:41
Eragonim trying to uninstall ndiswrapper04:41
Eragonhow do i get the packages so i can run make04:41
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MrObvioussudo apt-get remove package04:42
MrObviousman apt-get04:42
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Eragonhm what's man04:42
MrObviousman man04:43
HobbseeEragon: manual04:43
RawSewageI thought it was manatee04:43
HobbseeEragon: packages are off ndiswrapper.sourceforge.com i think04:43
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Hobbseeor in the repos04:43
ubotuwifi is Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper04:43
Eragonah wow so much stuff now04:44
Eragonthanks guys04:44
MrObviousHobbsee: He wants to uninstall. The BCM43xx chips work better with fwcutter than ndiswrapper.04:44
Eragonlet me try to fix it04:44
MrObviousEragon: You're welcome.04:44
MrObviousI even told ya the steps to get running after you compile the module for the kernel :)04:44
MrObviousMake sure you get it!04:44
Eragonhehe ok04:44
HobbseeMrObvious: sudo apt-get remove --purge ndiswrapper-utils04:45
MrObviousEragon: Make sure you get what Hobbsee said too04:46
Eragonkekek yea thanks hobbsee04:47
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devinanyone available for some totally newb questions?04:56
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:56
dr_willisis it ok if i ask about asking to ask? :P04:56
devini need the most basic user guide available,any suggestions04:56
unix_infideldr_willis: the answer is the same.04:57
robotgeekdevin: how about K-Menu -> Help04:57
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unix_infideldevin: be more specific, what kinda user guide?04:57
dr_willisgoogle for linux tutorials, and the ubuntu wikis/forums/uderguides at  the ubuntu homepage04:57
devinas in never even seen linux before and deleted windows at 1am04:57
unix_infidelheh, i would've recommended a live cd, but do what the good dr said.04:57
dr_willisyou got it installed and online with it however? :P04:58
devinjust basic how to's the k menu assumes basic knowledge04:58
dr_willislike 'how to click the mouse' :)04:58
unix_infideldr_willis: that's the problem with kids these days, they can get it installed, but dont know how to get it working...04:58
dr_williskde homepage proberly has somne guides also.04:58
unix_infideldevin: google for some linux guides, there are LOTS.04:59
elknof1hi everybody, can someone tell me the line for konsole to reconfigure X??04:59
dr_willisunix_infidel,  i rember the days of the C64 where we had to figure out all the warez! :P good old days04:59
unix_infideldr_willis: good thing i didnt have to remember those days....04:59
devinand this is why ppl dont change, go figure04:59
unix_infideldr_willis: but then again, i'll be reminiscing about days when hard drives werent solid state.04:59
dr_willisYep - and we dident all have usb ports in our.. err... ear.. :P05:01
MrObviousWhat's usb?05:01
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unix_infidelheh, MrObvious is young, his day is full of RFID and bioneural interfaces.05:02
dr_willisUnmentinable Secret booty.05:02
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Eragonholy crap05:03
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Eragonlinux here i come!05:04
HawkwindMrObvious: You didn't honestly ask what USB was did you ?05:05
HawkwindYou use a computer all day and you asked that.  Be ashamed of yourself05:06
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MrObviousHawkwind: I told you computer illiterateness disease was contageous. You're next :p05:07
HawkwindMrObvious: Right.  I atleast know better than to ask such a question in a public channel :P05:08
MrObviousWhat's a channel?05:08
unix_infidelMrObvious: to you youngins, its caled...."a chat room...zomg!"05:09
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dr_williswhats the command to load a program off my C64's 2nd floppy drive? :P05:10
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jerryseriously I didn't know that would go in here05:14
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MrObviousI told ya people are creapy at night.05:15
MrObviousOh wait I didn't.05:16
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Cntryboyanyone play q3 on ubuntu?05:17
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dr_willisBeen playing  that Q3 variant Trembulus   or Tremulus05:18
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CntryboyI want to install q3 though on here from windows q3 disc, easy howto05:18
Cntryboydialup and tremulus I would have to dl05:18
kweltysorry.. newbie question.. but how do i add items like "home" "trash" "my computer"  to the desktop?05:19
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MrObviouskwelty: Right click the desktop and push new folder? Just one way.05:20
MrObviousOh wait wrong thing05:20
Cntryboydr_willis what site is that I may dl that tonight05:20
unix_infidelkwelty: if you right click there are tons of options for adding link to location stuff.05:20
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dr_willisCntryboy,  i never can rember it.. let me see if i go tit bookmarked05:22
dr_willisI cant ever spell it right05:22
Cntryboyk thx05:22
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dr_willisCntryboy,  i think ya may have better luck checking at planetquake.com (or is it planetwuake3.com) :P05:23
dr_willisI cant get any hits on google. lol05:23
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kakaltowhere is the colourscheme kept?05:24
kakaltowhat file?05:24
Cntryboyno i mean for the tremulus game, i dunno how its spelled either05:24
Cntryboygoogling now on 2.1KB lol05:24
unix_infidelCntryboy: why 2.1kb?05:25
dr_willisthats why i said planetquake.05:25
unix_infideleven my cell phone gets 9.6KB05:25
dr_willislet me find the binary05:25
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robotgeekkakalto, use alt + f2, type "kcontrol" in the text box, and hit the <enter> key05:26
dr_williswant to know somthing Funny... that game will NOT work fo rme under windows.. it exists/crashes.. but it runs great under Linux05:26
robotgeekthen you'll see themes and so on05:26
dr_willisalso - take some Anti-seasickness meds befor playing.05:26
Cntryboyon dialup05:26
dr_willisyou will be Pukeing!05:26
Cntryboydr_willis: is it exactly q3 or does it look like it?05:27
Cntryboydr_willis why med? does it suck?05:27
kakaltorobotgeek: I'm trying to take a colourscheme from a previous installation, on a different hard drive05:27
dr_willisCntryboy,  you play 'bugs05:27
dr_willis' that can climb walls..like in the alien movies..05:27
dr_willisya get dizzy from the viewpoint05:27
robotgeekkakalto: somewhere in ~/.kde, possibly05:28
dr_willisthe bugs evolove as you get more kills. :P05:28
Cntryboyso does it look like quake or does it look like shitty doom 105:28
dr_willisIts as good looking as Q305:28
dr_willisthe aliens could use some work.. but hay its free. :)05:29
dr_willislearnign the game takes some time05:29
dr_willisits not just a  Death Match05:29
Cntryboynot sure if id like it05:30
Cntryboydoesn't matter its 101mb05:32
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ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:37
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:38
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ubotuI know nothing about veg-o-matic05:39
ubotuI know nothing about georgeforemangrill05:40
dr_willisI got Shocked big time (electrically) by one of those grills..05:40
RawSewagedid you get knocked out05:40
dr_willisNope.. but i got a large jolt from one arm, throught the chest to the other arm....05:42
dr_willisacross the heart = bad.05:42
RawSewageto the ekg05:42
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dr_willisyea - then thewife says "yea thats been shocking me also..."05:43
dr_willisi had one hand on the grill putting on some food.. and another on the metal sink..05:44
dr_willisThat grill went in the trash :)05:44
lintuxosThere is a strange thing happening in my openoffice right now. Any time I mouse over the toolbars they disappear. Has anyone else experienced this before?05:44
DaSkreechMy friend did05:44
dr_williswhich toolbars?05:44
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lintuxosall of them05:44
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lintuxosAs the mouse leaves an icon it will go away, and when it is over an icon it will reappear05:46
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johntramphey I am installing kubuntu but when it gets to "Scanning the mirror" the app just stops at 1% and does not continue05:47
johntramphas anyone seen this before?05:48
robotgeekjohntramp: can you check to see if your cd works correctly?05:48
DaSkreechis that computer connected to the internet?05:48
johntramprobotgeek: it is one from shipt.ubuntu.org05:48
johntrampDaSkreech: it is this computer05:48
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lintuxosI have seen the mirrors occasionally go down05:48
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robotgeekjohntramp: okay. try to install without configuring network05:49
johntrampshouldn't it time out tho after some time05:49
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ruI have an ati graphics card and the display doesnt look clear on my Xserver05:50
johntramprobotgeek:  it is an install from the live cd...  it configures the network it's self05:50
robotgeekjohntramp: disconnect :)05:50
ruif i take a screenshot and look at it on another monitor then the graininess is gone05:50
ruso it must be the monitor/screen setting?05:50
johntramprobotgeek: ifconfig eth0 down05:50
robotgeekjohntramp: that works too05:51
johntrampok...   brb05:51
lintuxosRu, I recently had the same problem, I switched to a vesa driver and that took care of the problem05:51
ruif i switch to the vesa driver everything goes screwey05:51
lintuxosHave you tried the radeon driver?05:52
rui am using it05:52
rufglrx ?05:52
lintuxosthats the ati propietary driver I think05:52
rufglrx is the ati propietary driver...05:53
rui dont think its the gfx card though cos if i take a screen shot and view it on another monitor it looks fine05:53
lintuxosI guess your problem isn't like the one I was having then05:54
ruwhat was ur issue exactly?05:56
ruFor me basically colours that should be clear, aren't05:56
ruthey are slightly grainy05:56
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lintuxosWhen using fglrx everything appears distorted and menus have a glasslike backing to them05:57
holotoneHow can I mount a Fat32 partition as read/write?05:57
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ubotuDisks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks05:57
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holotoneI can get it mounted correctly, but only read only, presumably because root owns it05:57
dr_willisholotone,  use the user/umask options in the fstab.05:57
holotonehow would I do that?05:57
rudr_willis: lol? Surely if I can see the graininess then i dont need glasses?05:58
dr_willisgoogle has ooodles of the sexmples. :)    holotone  check the /etc/fstab   and see what the line is now.05:58
holotonedr_willis: fstab reads this:05:58
holotone./dev/hdd1       /mount/photos vfat umask=0222 0 005:58
holotoneminus the period at the beginning, of course05:58
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holotonewhat should the umask be in order for my user to be able to read and write to the folder?05:59
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dr_willisHmm 0222 seesmright05:59
dr_williscould use the  user,umask=0222 optioons05:59
dr_willisthen unmountit. and have the user mount it.05:59
lintuxosCould he not use root to change the read/write permissions of the mount point06:01
unix_infidellintuxos: better to do it dr_willis way.06:01
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lintuxosoh, ok Learn something new everyday06:02
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holotonewhat do I do to "reload" fstab06:02
holotoneunmount and remount drives using the new edits?06:03
pmorrisonhello everyone.  I just install kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu dapper.  When I try to log in to a kde session, I get an error message... here is the log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17672 .  I'm a bit of a noob, can anyone help?06:03
holotonewhat do I type at the command line to unmount and remount fstab?06:04
dr_willisyou DONT change the permissions of the mount point06:04
holotoneinstead of having to reboot06:04
dr_willisit dont work that way06:04
dr_willisumount /mnt/whatever06:04
dr_willisas root to unmount it. then let the USER mount it06:04
holotoneok, just  asec06:04
dr_willisalso you proberly want to use the noauto option so it dont auto mount.06:05
dr_willisif it automounts - it may be get mounted./owned by root06:05
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holotonecommand unmount not found06:05
dr_willisno N06:05
holotonejust saw that06:05
holotoneumount: /mount/photos: device is busy06:06
pmorrisonHere is the first error msg in my log if anyone else who's listening can help:06:06
pmorrison/etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...06:06
DaSkreechStop using it?06:06
pmorrisontrying to create local folder /home/pmorrison/.kde/share: Permission denied06:06
holotoneDaSkreech: not being used by anything06:07
holotonegoddamnit, I'm just going to reboot06:07
ruHmm, i think it is fglrx causing the grainyness06:07
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ruI enabled vesa and its gone06:07
DaSkreechholotone: Just log out06:07
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ruAnyone else had any trouble with fglrx causing grainyness or diffusion06:08
pmorrisonWell, on the plus side... while I wait for someone to help me - the family guy's on!06:09
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SpAwNwow i just noticed that xorg is taking up alot of memory...is this normal?06:12
SpAwNi have 2 gigs of ram but....i have never used this much b406:12
SpAwNusing over a gig of ram06:12
SpAwNRAM Usage: 1030/2075M06:12
Zairedamn what a weekend lol06:13
Zaireanyone in here know if I will encounter any probs installing kubuntu on what would be described as a legacy machine lol06:13
pmorrisonhello everyone.  I just install kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu dapper.  When I try to log in to a kde session, I get an error message... here is the log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17672 .  I'm a bit of a noob, can anyone help?06:14
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SpAwNim gonna go and try to restart x...see if that helps06:15
robotgeekpmorrison: taking look, one sec06:15
jbrouhardAnyone know of a decent open-source alternative to quickbooks ?06:15
Zaireits a Pentium 2 400Mhz with 256 megs of SD-Ram ATI Rage series plain jane vid card, and I believe a soundblaster soundcard06:15
pmorrisonrobotgeek: thanks!06:15
robotgeekpmorrison: dont know nothing about compiz06:15
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robotgeekjbrouhard: kmymoney2?06:15
jbrouhardZaire: I don't think you'll have any problems....06:15
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jbrouhardZaire: but the system might be awfully slow.  I have a PII 400 here myself in the kitchen and it runs Kubuntu semi-Ok06:16
Zairelol its just gonna be a small file server06:16
pmorrisonrobotgeek: Ah, so because I have compiz installed, it's messing up kde?06:16
jbrouhardWell in that case, Zaire it should be fine06:17
robotgeekpmorrison: i would guess so, not sure06:17
Zairecool I kinda thought so just wanted to check....I need something for doing the odd backup if I ever have to format just stuff like that mainly06:17
pmorrisonrobotgeek: how did you know I had compiz installed?  I thought it only affected my session when I loaded my xgl session...06:18
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Zairealso curious as to how difficult it will be to bring the files left on it over to my linux box since the 400 is running windows 9806:18
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jbrouhardJust install SAMBA on your current machine06:19
jbrouhardand transfer the files over06:19
jbrouhardwhen the fileserver's up, just transfer those over then :)06:19
Zairek so just apt it huh06:19
Zairenvm I got it lol06:20
Zairegonna take a min to boot the old machine its never been formatted and my bro inlaw had it for 9 years atleast06:20
SpAwNwell the mem usage went way donw06:20
Zairebut thanks for the help jbrouhard :)06:21
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pmorrisonOK, anyone successfully install Kubuntu on Ubuntu with a xgl/compiz session?06:23
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pmorrisonHmm, I guess I'm stuck with GNOME...06:28
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems06:29
fiyawerxanyone else think the !command is kind of ironic to find out more info on it?06:29
fiyawerxwhy not like ?command06:29
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pmorrisonHmm, I got to go... you are all gapeing ghonorea holes!06:30
robotgeekpmorrison: please do respect the coc06:30
fiyawerxand the dic(tionary)06:30
pmorrisonrobotgeek: Ha! ok06:30
unix_infidelmaybe if he could spell the disease correctly.06:30
pmorrisonhow do you spell ghonorea?06:31
unix_infidelthat would definately get him banned.06:31
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unix_infideland i'm pretty sure the microbe doesnt have a "hole" per se...its not an amoeba last time i checked.06:31
pmorrisonlet me guess, go to #kubuntu-really-off-topic06:31
unix_infidelpmorrison: no, #kubuntu..just be respectufl.06:31
fiyawerxkdepanel just crashed06:31
fiyawerxits wierd06:32
fiyawerxwhen i open firefox06:32
pmorrisonnot a ghonorea hole then, a gapeing ghonorea infested hole06:32
fiyawerxi get the "busy" icon, for like 20 seconds, even if the page comes up, i use it, and close it in about 1006:32
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usp8riotdoes anyone know how to execute a linux executable? i clicked on some and nothing happens06:34
fiyawerxunix_infidel: http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/plush/6708/images/1188/06:35
robotgeekusp8riot: ./script06:35
Hobbseeusp8riot: ./nameofexecutable06:35
usp8riotok, thanks, i'll try it06:35
Ash-Foxchmod +x ./executable && ./executable06:35
usp8rioti'm getting a 'cannot open shared libraries' error06:36
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Ash-Foxyou don't have the required library installed or the required library is not in your library path variable.06:37
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usp8riotok, it's asking for liballeg.so.4.0 and do an apt-search and get a bunch. is there a way of knowing exactly which one i need, which package?06:39
Ash-FoxGoogle always worked for me06:39
usp8rioti take it liballegro.4.1 right?06:39
usp8riotguess it won't hurt to install a bunch of crap anyway, i'll just download most of them06:40
Shizboomwhy does it seem like kde is so much better than gnome :P06:40
ChefWillusually all you need is the base package and base pkg-dev06:40
ChefWill-docs if you want them06:40
usp8riotShizboom: cuz kde doesn't look like crap06:41
usp8riotespecially like the crap-brown ubuntu comes in06:41
kakaltothey're doing a new colour scheme from edgy eft onwards, aren't they?06:41
Ash-FoxI think the default KDE themes are always too big06:42
usp8rioti'm a sucker for aesthetics, i've never used gnome06:42
Ash-FoxHuge icons everywhere06:42
Ash-FoxHuge taskbar, drives me mad.06:42
Ash-FoxThank god KDE is customizable :)06:43
Hobbseeyou cant make everyone happy with themes, unfortunately06:43
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ShizboomKDE seems to customize a bit more06:43
usp8riotmy desktop is teh ownage06:43
Shizboomand be a bit less quirky06:43
Ash-FoxAnd I'm greatful for being able to turn off those 3d effects in KDE. I really think the default fading etc. gives people a bad opinion on linux, making it appear slow etc.06:44
Ash-FoxYou turn off all those silly effects and people really don't notice, they find it more responsive.06:44
Ashexi think that fade looks spiffy06:44
usp8riotalthough my progs crash a lot. is this common?06:44
Ash-Foxusp8riot, no.06:44
Shizboomis there anyway to click on the popup notes that azerues puts up?06:45
Ash-FoxThe only application that sometimes crashes on me is konqueror, usually clearing the cache fixes that though.06:45
DaSkreechKDE4 on AIR!!06:45
usp8riotmy kget crashes when i add too many dl's. konquerer has crashed 3 times today06:45
Ash-FoxKDE4 isn't out yet06:46
Ash-Foxkget doesn't crash at all for me.06:46
Hobbseehey, do you guys want to do me a favour?06:46
Hobbseeif you're into artwork, etc/06:46
DaSkreechSure! :)06:46
DaSkreechOhh artwork :-(06:46
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Ash-FoxI can stickmen06:47
Ash-FoxI can do stickmen06:47
usp8rioti'm dl'ing america's army and have been praying kget doesn't crash. it did once while dl'ing but surprisingly i can still resume06:48
DaSkreechHobbsee: So what can we do?06:48
usp8riotis there a stable dl manager out there?06:48
HobbseeDaSkreech: screenshot/mockup of what you'd like kde to look lik ewould be cool06:48
Hobbseeusp8riot: prozilla06:48
DaSkreechHobbsee: Eh?06:48
DaSkreechLike a full mockup or KDE would be better of this button was here?06:49
HobbseeDaSkreech: nah, as in, what the default kubuntu theme should look like, sorry06:49
DaSkreechAh ha! ok :) thanks06:49
usp8riotthanks, i'll search for it06:49
DaSkreechHobbsee: Topic it?06:49
HobbseeDaSkreech: i think there's already an artwork page on the wiki.06:50
DaSkreechHmm ok :)06:50
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ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT06:52
Shizboomis there a different program to use than apt-get in kde?06:53
unix_infidelapt-get is wm / de independent06:53
DaSkreechShizboom: Adept?06:53
usp8riotShizboom: can't you use synaptic?06:53
Shizboomcommand line is so much faster tho if i know what i'm looking for :D06:53
usp8riotthen again i'm a linux noob so i may not know wtf i'm talking about06:53
DaSkreechShizboom: aptitude?06:54
usp8riotbefore i would've been searching for a gui alternative but now i'd rather have the konsole. i fell in love with it06:55
usp8riotwe've had such good times together06:55
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usp8riotour ups and downs06:55
unix_infidelkonsole is just another terminal emulator...you can use it in kde or gnome or flux or E doesnt matter.06:56
usp8rioti heart terminal emulators06:56
unix_infideli heart getting things done...not admiring my terminal emulator :)06:56
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unix_infidelanyone know of a good sql guide / how to / tutorial??06:57
Hawkwindtldp.org has some06:57
unix_infidelpreferably in ebook, tar.gz'ed html or pdf form.06:57
unix_infidelDaSkreech: yea, i'm already there...06:58
unix_infideli'm looking for a more dedicated ebook type format i can take with me when i dont have internet access.06:58
DaSkreechAmazon.com :)06:58
HawkwindDaSkreech: He don't spend money unless it's an emergency, and even then :P06:59
DaSkreechFind the SQL RFC and download it :)06:59
unix_infidelI dont spend money on anything other than booze and assets :)07:00
usp8riotdoes anyone ever think linux is going to catch on to the mainstream?07:00
DaSkreechusp8riot: Does it matter?07:00
usp8riotyes, so game companies will develope more for it07:01
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usp8riotand other co's07:01
usp8rioti need a good photoshop alternative07:01
DaSkreech+2 usp8riot07:01
unix_infidelgimpshop :)07:01
usp8riotit's missing features07:01
unix_infidelof course it is...that's what macs are for.07:02
usp8rioti'm not even a big photoshop user and notice even some simple features gimp doesn't have07:02
usp8riotthen again could be me, i haven't spent too much time with gimp07:02
DaSkreechI'm pretty sure they are in there07:02
DaSkreechusp8riot: Which games are you looking at?07:03
unix_infidelusp8riot: then boot to your windows partition...why should open source get IN THE WAY of you getting things done.07:03
Zairek does anyone know how I can get a vnc viewer on kubuntu?07:03
usp8riotfor example, i needed to make a rectangle with rounded corners, i didn't notice that in gimp07:03
abattoirusp8riot: In the rectangle tool menu, choose 'feathering'...07:04
DaSkreechOk We did that the other day07:04
abattoiror rather 'Feather Edges'07:04
abattoirand then select your radius07:04
usp8riotunix_infidel: why not vote for more developers for open source?07:04
usp8riotor hoping they'll convert, instead of just moving over to windows07:05
usp8riotit's a catch 22, not many people want to use linux cuz of a lack of progs, not many users so programmers don't want to develop as much for linux07:05
unix_infidelusp8riot: because i'm not a developer, i'm a user.  If it doesnt work, i'll find it elsewhere.07:05
DaSkreechusp8riot: I don't think taht's true07:06
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unix_infidelusp8riot: and I dont get paid to conver my mom, her friends, their bridge buddies and their pool boys to linux.07:06
DaSkreechunix_infidel: You do in time07:06
abattoirusp8riot: the power of Open Source is the community... constructive people...07:07
usp8riotyou can get paid for linux programs07:07
usp8rioti'm all for paying for linux programs to help it catch on07:07
abattoirusp8riot: if it is not the 'best', then they try to make it better than the best ;)07:07
usp8riotor atleast donating07:07
abattoiryes, Google believes that too :)07:07
ubotuvnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.07:08
abattoirbut most Open Source projects are done on a 'voluntary' basis, and hence I believe bring out the best from the developers07:08
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DaSkreechCause they only really get paid in respect or usage07:09
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DaSkreechusp8riot: In any case I'm writing to the folks at TiltedMill once a week to beg for Linux install files07:09
usp8riotbut i love the spirit of the community. it's good linux brings tech to even the poorest of communities all over the world07:10
unix_infidelDaSkreech: you should threaten to sue them....see where that gets you.07:10
usp8rioteither that or they probably just pirate windows, lol07:11
DaSkreechunix_infidel: huh?07:11
DaSkreechSue who?07:11
Hobbseeabattoir: some get paid, you know.  if you do a good job you get paid, often07:12
abattoirwell, I am, I should know :P07:12
Hobbseethat's true07:12
abattoirwell, but many, if not most, are people who do it for nothing. :)07:13
DaSkreechwell they don't do it for money07:14
DaSkreechI think they do do it for something07:14
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usp8riotprogrammers do it for the women07:15
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DaSkreechusp8riot: or the men :)07:15
abattoirusp8riot: lol, what is the rationale behind that?07:15
usp8riotit was sarcasm07:16
abattoirindeed ;)07:16
abattoiror... for the 'lack' of women :P07:16
Zairek how do you use tightvnc for vnc viewing07:16
DaSkreechYeah but a woman who can unroll her own quadratic loop to improve the burnign speed of cdrecord would probably get a few dates :)07:16
usp8rioti could only wish to be a programmer though07:16
Zairek how do you use tightvnc for vnc viewing07:17
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usp8riotyes, but i've yet to see one who could07:17
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ZaireSamab isn't quite doing the trick for me and I only have one set of periphs so i would like to know how to use the vnc viewer for tight vnc07:18
abattoirZaire: I have no clue, but http://www.tightvnc.com/faq.html ?07:19
DaSkreechusp8riot: Look harder :)07:20
ShizboomZaire - i recomend nomachine instead of vnc07:20
usp8riotwrong room zaire, i think you have to go to the 'can't get a date cuz i'm such a linux nerd' room07:20
Shizboomits alot better07:20
usp8riotgeez, i'm so mean tonight07:20
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Zaireand you could go to the get a life cause Im an ignoramus room usp8riot07:20
robotgeekfreenx is better than vnc, imo07:20
usp8riotthe beer's doing nothing for my manners07:20
abattoirusp8riot: i think soon, we should go to #kubuntu-offtopic ;)07:21
usp8rioti didn't know there was one, i just fire up konversation and this room pops up07:21
usp8rioti go to 'file', then 'join channel', is there like a list of channels i can join somewhere?07:22
usp8riotit's wanting me to just pop one up out of my head and i don't know any07:22
DaSkreechusp8riot: type /list07:23
Shizboomthe samba wiki for ubuntu is sort of shabby =o07:23
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT07:23
Zairewell Im not keeping Samba in use for long I just need to get some files off a P2 400 and the easiest way at the moment is from the 400 to my 310007:24
usp8riotso who is this obotu guy? he seems to know a lot07:25
Shizboomokay so what is my share name if i follow this wiki anyway?07:25
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usp8riotseems like a smartmouth sometimes07:25
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage07:25
Zaireits a bot its programed to07:25
usp8riotman, the things they can do now07:25
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usp8riotubotu: so like, can you tell me where to meet some hot chicks?07:26
ubotuI know nothing about so like, can you tell me where to meet some hot chicks?07:26
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usp8rioti'm gonna have fun with this07:26
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.07:27
usp8riotubotu: so, you come here often?07:27
ubotuI know nothing about so, you come here often?07:27
usp8riotubotu: do you have a girlfriend?07:27
ubotuI know nothing about do you have a girlfriend?07:27
usp8riothe's no fun07:28
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DaSkreechusp8riot: Please msg the bot07:28
usp8riotubotu: you're cool, i'm just messing with ya. you're my pal!07:28
ubotuI know nothing about you're cool, i'm just messing with ya. you're my pal!07:28
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usp8rioti can't message him, i'm not registered07:29
Hawkwindusp8riot: Please stop playing with the bot07:29
usp8riotso i can kick the bot? it's giving me options07:29
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DaSkreechGo ahed07:29
usp8riotit will probably kick me, right?07:29
Breadmachineimbrandon: yo there :D07:30
usp8riotsuch a mean bot07:30
Breadmachineanyone here familiar with troubleshooting timeouts in adept, or even just straight terminal apt-get?07:31
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Zairedamn Samba07:32
Zairewhat am I supposed to put in for the server portion when you add a new thing07:33
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Breadmachineguess not07:33
DaSkreechBreadmachine: Check the spelling of the repo07:33
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ZaireI would like to know why I can't get Samba to see windows other then windows sux07:34
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jerryI have a question07:34
jerryI have a question I want to ask07:35
jerryabout wine07:35
Zairenvm it just decided to work lol07:35
usp8riotjerry: i have a question07:36
DaSkreechZaire: What?07:36
jerryI have a question07:36
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:36
usp8riotjerry: why not just go ahead and say the question07:36
jerryHow do I use wine?07:36
usp8riotlol, ubotu is my man07:36
Zaireoh I was having trouble getting samba to work then all of a sudden it started to work07:36
jerryI want to run a simple windows program07:36
Hawkwindjerry: The guys in #WineHQ can help you best with Wine07:36
DaSkreechman wine07:36
DaSkreechOr read up on http://winehq.org07:37
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.07:37
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BreadmachineDaSkreech: you, my sir are my saviour, i left out an i in multiverse07:38
jbrouhardHey guys... need help debating this07:38
jbrouhardFor business purpsoes, which would be better.. sql-ledger, gnucash or kmymoney ?07:38
DaSkreechBreadmachine: happens to the best of us07:38
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DaSkreechI would probably go with gnucash for a year then kmymoney07:39
Breadmachinenow for the fun question, how do i change the order of the operating systems in GRUB boot loader07:39
jerryI have a question07:39
ZaireI should charge my bro inlaw for file storage lol07:39
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jerryin a shell, how do I log off one user and log in another?07:39
DaSkreechOf course I've never heard of sql-ledger so I could be (read I am) talking out my hinter-quarters07:39
Zairejust do an su command07:39
DaSkreechBreadmachine: Man grub.conf07:39
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abattoirBreadmachine: /boot/grub/menu.lst is the file07:40
DaSkreechjerry: su <useryouwanttologinas>07:40
abattoirBreadmachine: you'd obv. need to edit as root, when you loook at the file, you'll understand the syntax :)07:40
Breadmachinethanks all07:40
jbrouhardI guess i need to play with gnucash more07:41
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ZaireI still can't believe it I got this P2 400 cause my bro inlaw said it quit but all I had to do was plug it in and turn it on...nothing wrong with it07:42
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands07:43
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Breadmachineabattoir: okay, thats actually really greek to me, if i slapped that into pastebin, and told ya what i wanted could ya walk me through it?07:44
abattoirBreadmachine: sure, i'll try my best :)07:44
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Breadmachineabattoir: http://pastebin.ca/83864 Okay, I want(and by I I mean my wife) to get Windows XP to show up at the top. thats all07:47
abattoirBreadmachine: you want it to be default too?07:48
Breadmachinedefault means its the one it boots into if i dont press anything? if so, yes07:48
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Breadmachineabattoir: thats the one that my PC boots to if i dont hit anything right?07:51
abattoiryes :)07:51
abattoirhttp://pastebin.ca/83865 should do the trick07:52
Breadmachineabattoir: cool, thanks, ill reboot and let you know what blows up07:53
abattoirBreadmachine: sure :)07:53
usp8riotanyone know a good partitioning utility?07:54
ZaireI really gotta wonder what adaware will pickup on this P2 cause it hasn't been formatted in the 9 years my bro inlaw owned it not to mention has never been scanned with adaware lol07:55
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Breadmachineabattoir: you sir are a god07:57
Breadmachineabattoir: any knowledge on changing resolution?07:57
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abattoirBreadmachine: you are just poking my ego :)07:57
abattoirBreadmachine: krandrtray ?07:58
thykokubuntu is off the chain meen07:58
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Breadmachineabattoir: come again? im a linux n00b if ya couldnt tell07:58
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abattoirBreadmachine: ok, ok, :). Alt+F2 ->Run Command->krandrtray07:59
abattoirshould be in your system tray07:59
abattoirclick to change resolution07:59
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Breadmachineabattoir: no go, says can not run command, and im using an nvidia geoforce FX5200, ive installed nvidia-glx, im just wondering if i need to run glx-legacy08:01
ubotuForgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StrongPasswords08:01
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Zairewell I think I got all the files I needed backed up off the computer now its gonna be an adventure formatting and changing the OS since it has no floppy drive nor CD drive in it lol08:01
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abattoirBreadmachine: Cannot run command? that's weird...08:01
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abattoirare you sure? krandrtray ?08:01
Breadmachineabattoir: does it matter that im running adept for a bunch of updates?08:02
abattoirBreadmachine: nope, that shouldnt matter...08:02
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abattoirno typos?08:02
eightieskhow do i change my password in Ubuntu08:02
DaSkreecheightiesk: passwd08:03
Lynoureeightiesk: fastest way: open konsole, type     passwd08:03
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abattoireightiesk: passwd08:03
Breadmachineabattoir: highest i can go si 1024x768, but im wanting 1280x102408:03
jerryhow do you get so fat that you're on the brink of death08:03
Breadmachinejerry: be like me and become a web developer08:03
abattoirBreadmachine: hmm for that i think you need to mess around w/ your nvidia drivers, i'm not familiar w/ that, sorry08:03
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:03
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jerryare you so fat that you have to lay on a bed 24hrs a day that tissue from your body seeps outside your body and that if you stop breathing that noone can save you?08:04
Breadmachinejerry: well, not yet anyway08:06
jerrywell don't08:06
jerrythis is painful08:06
DaSkreechBreadmachine: You could reconfigure X08:06
DaSkreechjerry: OT!08:07
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ZaireI was thinking of doing my next computer case in a Decepticon theme with Chameleon Dark purple paint08:11
LynoureZaire: dark purple always sounds good08:13
Zaireyea and the chameleon paint will be a nice touch to so it changes color in deifferent lights :)08:13
Breadmachinedoes anyone here have experience with nvidia drivers?08:13
Zairesorta....depends on what your trying to do08:14
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ZaireBreadmachine what do you want to do that you require the drivers?08:15
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BreadmachineZaire: increase my resolution, but kubuntu is being crappy about it08:17
Zairewhats your res right now?08:17
Breadmachinemainly all i want to do is llok at my ntfs partitions from within linux so i can get a path for wine08:18
Breadmachinei want 1280x102408:18
Zairedo you have a driver installed right now in kubuntu though?08:18
Breadmachinei have one installed, nvidia-glx, but im still having trouble08:20
Zairek you need to enable the driver after install08:20
ZaireI found out the hard way lol08:21
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Zairethis is the line you need for enabling it sudo nvidia-glx-config enable08:22
Zairedunno if it will help alot but try that first08:22
Breadmachineno go08:22
Zairedid it just skip down a line?08:22
Zairehmmm that line should have worked :( did it give you an error?08:23
oomphzaire: did you run automatix?08:23
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Zaireme nope08:24
oomphi think automatix setup my nvidia stuff08:24
ZaireI just used apt got the glx driver then enabled it08:24
oomphyeah, i had a problem with it too08:24
Zaireafter that worked fine08:24
Zairethe first damn time I didn't have to edit my xorg lol08:25
oomphi ended up having to dl the kernel headers08:25
oomphand installing the driver the other way08:25
Zairethats only for the binary driver straight from the nvidia sight08:25
oomphaye, that is what i ended up doing :P08:25
oomphbut i think i used automatix for my second install08:25
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Breadmachine< is a linux noob08:26
Zairewell I had done that to but then I noticed a little thing in the nvidia driver doc that said you had to enable the drivers lol08:26
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bam_anyone know how to add delete to the fight click context menu?08:26
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ZaireI been messing with linux for atleast 5 years now lol08:27
exceswateri never used linux until 3 weeks ago08:27
exceswaterand i had to give up that win...08:27
oomphexceswater: i began using it when dapper first came out08:27
RawSewagelet me know if you have any questions08:27
RawSewageIm a veteran08:27
RawSewageI used it for 4 weeks08:27
exceswaterit's sitting now in Trash :d08:27
exceswaterit's hard for me08:28
oomphRawSewage in fact raws was in this channel the day i began08:28
exceswateri am kinda gamer08:28
RawSewageit wasnt hard for me08:28
RawSewageI switched 100%08:28
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exceswaterand i cannot play so many games now08:28
oomphexceswater i switched my non-gaming machines over to linux08:28
exceswateri still got my home computer on win08:28
oomphexceswater cedega works well for some games08:28
RawSewageoomph,  didnt you use Ubuntu before08:28
exceswateri still got a "gaming machine"08:28
exceswaterhome :D08:29
oomphRawSewage for like a day08:29
Zairethis is my gaming machine lol08:29
exceswaterbut here windows is 100 euro08:29
Zaire100% pure linux lol08:29
exceswaternot nice :d08:29
oomphRawSewage i spent a few days evaluating xandros/mepis and kubuntu08:29
Zairein 5 years Ive used about 23 diff distros08:29
exceswaterhehe nice08:30
RawSewageCedega works well for you?08:30
oomphRawSewage i ended up deciding on Kanotix for my laptops and Kubuntu for my older desktops08:30
Zairenot always lol but I liked debian so when I heard Kubuntu was based off of it I had to get it08:30
exceswateris kanotix nice ?08:30
oomphRawSewage: yeah, ive had decent results with cedega thus far08:30
Zaireyea its pretty good from what Ive seen08:30
RawSewagewhat games08:30
RawSewageIs Cedega also good for some apps that Wine cant handle?08:31
oomphexceswater Kanotix is really nice08:31
ZaireIve played half life 1 on it and it runs better then in windows08:31
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oomphexceswater way more current and more hardware support/ i58608:31
exceswateri finished half life 208:31
oomphexceswater my laptops run way faster on it08:31
exceswaterbut i am pirate :D08:31
exceswateri cannot buy games here08:31
ZaireI wouldn't mind getting 2 myself lol08:31
exceswateror maybe08:31
RawSewageoomph, did you try Xubuntu08:31
exceswatera game / month08:32
exceswater :D08:32
oomphRawSewage yes, i run Xubuntu on an old pentium2 laptop :)08:32
ZaireIm broke thats why I only own a few games and they are the ones I play at lan parties08:32
exceswaterdon't u work Zaire08:32
RawSewagewhat games wont run on Linux?08:32
oomphRawSewage i've run WoW on Cedega and Eve Online08:32
RawSewageWoW is supposed to run well08:33
ZaireIm unemployed right now but pretty much will be in a job tuesday08:33
oomphRawSewage yes, runs really well08:33
exceswaterwhat u work Zaire08:33
exceswaterdo u know much about linux distros :D ?08:33
Zairethe place Im gonna be working at is a flooring company08:33
Zaireme sorta08:34
exceswateri am glad for you08:34
RawSewageeww work08:34
exceswaterfor all the guys here who are good at linux08:35
exceswateror something else08:35
exceswaterand you can make some nice money there08:35
exceswateri made 40 dollars (US) for 3 logos :d08:35
Zaireoff the top of my head debian woody, debian sarge, kubuntu dapper, kubuntu breezy, kubuntu breezy 64 Bit, Ubuntu breezy, mandrake 9.2, mandrake 10.1, mandriva 10.2, mandrake 10.0, redhat 9, fedora core 1, fedora core 3, fedora core 5, Suse 10.0 64 bit, damn small linux and Xubuntu those are ones I can name off the top of my head that Ive used08:36
exceswaterby the way08:37
exceswateris any1 here08:37
exceswaterwho is good at PHONES ?08:37
exceswateri have some questions08:37
Zairedamn thats 17 distros Ive used that I actually can remember just off top of head lol08:38
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oomphyeah, ive tried most of them too08:38
oomphexceswater im decent with phones /voip08:39
Zairelol gotta try em all before you can really chose one08:39
exceswateri have a nokia 6600 and a nokia 9500 comunicator08:39
exceswatermy problem is that :D08:39
exceswateri have to go to greece in autumn08:39
exceswaterand i am afraid i can get lost there08:39
RawSewagemaybe install KStars08:40
exceswaterso i can borrow a mini gps device08:40
exceswaterbut i cannot find some maps for my phone08:40
exceswatersome like tom tom08:40
exceswateretc :d08:40
RawSewageGoogle Maps?08:40
abattoirexceswater: are you willing to pay? or do you want free solutions?08:41
exceswaterfree solution08:41
abattoiroh, ok :)08:41
exceswaterone solution with pay would be to buy a low price palm08:41
abattoirthere are lots of S60 applications, most are pay...08:41
exceswaterand i know someone who can help me with some maps08:41
oomphmapquest sends you direction but probably only in US08:42
abattoirthere are places online though, which put them up illegally :(08:42
exceswaterbut that would be around 250 euros08:42
exceswaterwhere abattoir08:42
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abattoirugh, i dont know, even if i did, i wouldnt tell you ;)08:42
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exceswaternice case Zaire08:43
scheurihi all08:43
exceswaterabattoir:  bad bad bad08:43
Zairethx :)08:43
exceswateri wanna change my case too08:43
ZaireI did all but the paint job my dad insisted on doing the paintjob cause I used car paint for the colors lol08:44
exceswaterbut for now i only have a penguin sticker on a side08:44
LynoureMy laptop case is still virginal08:44
exceswatera counter strike sticker08:44
exceswateri dream for a laptop08:44
LynoureMost stickers are just plain boring08:44
exceswaterbut maybe next year08:44
exceswateri spent my money on a car :D08:45
exceswaterhehe laptop has to wait now08:45
Lynoureexceswater: I got it but with the price of having to give up my desktop at home08:45
Zairefor the paint on that case I used GM Metalic Saphire Blue and GM Oldsmobile Cutlass Red08:45
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Zairelike $200 worth of paint lol08:46
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oomphRawSewage you try cedega yet?08:46
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exceswaternice nice08:46
Zairedid all the cutting with a rotary tool even for the O and R in foxfire08:46
usp8riotanyone know why when i start a certain game my screen goes blank and get an error about the refresh rate or something08:47
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exceswateri remembered something08:47
Zairewas interesting thats for sure08:47
usp8riotdo i need to edit my x config?08:47
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exceswateri had an idea about mounting a laptop screen on my desktop sidfe08:47
exceswaterside :d08:47
scheuriusp8riot: probabaly because the game uses a certain resolution which is out of range or sync08:47
exceswaterbut it seems like they are not compatible08:47
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Zairecan be done excesswater just very expensive from what Ive heard on casemodgod.com08:48
usp8riotscheuri: i'm sure of that but do i edit the config in the game or in my x config?08:48
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usp8riotthe next time i run a game that does that it just doesn't start at all08:48
RawSewageoomph, no08:48
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exceswaterit doesn't pay if it's expensive08:48
scheuriusp8riot: I'd guess in game. not x-config..08:48
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Zaireyea from what Ive heard its cheaper to buy an lcd monitor brand new lol08:49
oomphRawSewage what type of hardware you run?08:49
ZaireIve seen it done though I mean you could check it out they have other cases on casemodgod08:49
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exceswaterinstall a lcd on a desktop side :D08:50
exceswaterthis would be nice08:50
exceswaterto have all in 108:50
Zairepretty much Ive seen one on the site with dual lcd lol08:50
amadeus_can anyone here help me with defining default web browsers on kubuntu?08:51
RawSewageoomph, p4 2ghz    512 ram   GEForce 420008:51
amadeus_or just default applications in general08:51
oomphRawSewage what games do you play on it?08:51
oomphRawSewage if any?08:52
exceswateri had seen that one 208:52
exceswaterfew minutes ago08:52
exceswaterway too ugly08:52
exceswaterto clip them together with that metal stripe :d08:52
exceswaterredneck modding08:52
RawSewageoomph, none now08:52
RawSewageoomph, I used to play Asheron's Call a lot08:53
oomphRawSewage ahh cool08:53
oomphRawSewage kanotix is very current, they got some nice scripts to help with common install issues. I'm digging it08:54
RawSewageoomph, I havent heard of that one08:56
oomphwhat is a good ftp server aside from pro?08:56
jbrouhardpro what ?08:57
oomphRawSewage http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/kanotix/preview/08:57
jbrouhard<-- uses only ProFtpd08:57
jbrouhardwuftpd is also available (but i hear it's still hackable..)08:57
oomphjbrouhard: what is a good gui frontend for configuring pro?08:58
jbrouhardNever used one ;)08:58
Zaireummm can't remember but how do your purge programs from kubuntu again lol08:58
oomphdpkg --purge08:58
jbrouhardI do believe there is an add-on for webmin to let you configure proftpd08:58
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Zaireah thx lol08:59
oomphapt-get remove --purge08:59
oomphi always liked servuftp on windows08:59
oomphbut i messed with pro some a long time ago08:59
oomphused webmin to admin it08:59
Shizboomthere is a gui for proftp somewhere but even with that i just gave up and started using ssh :P08:59
Shizboomsince i already had an ssh server up09:00
oomphwill standalone proftpd use its own user database?09:00
oomphor does it require system user accounts09:00
Zaireoooh the P2 400 of mine so far has 94 object that are a threat found by adaware lol09:01
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oomphconvert it to linux09:01
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Zairewill be soo I just want to see how much crap is in  it cause my bro inlaw has had it for 9 years with no format or scan done lol09:02
Zairegotta satisfy curiosity lol09:02
jbrouhardProftpd is highly configurable..09:02
jbrouhardi've been able to tie it into OpenLDAP before, but as stand-alone with no tie-ins, it relies on system accounts.09:03
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ChefWillwhat is the darn shortcut that lets ou click a process to kill?09:03
Zaireup to 14309:03
jbrouhardif you want to use a separate user DB.. tie it into an SQL of some kind or use a flat text file09:03
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oomphjbrouhard flat text file will probably be plenty09:05
oomphjbrouhard so when i isntall it, I should not make it a standalone?09:05
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Zaireoooo quiet lol09:10
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jbrouhardoomph: default install *IS* stand alone09:11
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exces__hey pplz09:15
exces__i have a problem09:15
exces__i saved a few pics in my comp09:15
exces__in a folder09:15
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exces__and the folder looks empty09:15
exces__with konqueror09:15
exces__if i open it with gentoo09:15
exces__i see the files09:15
exces__dunno how to open them09:16
exces__but konqueror doesn't see them09:16
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Zaire164 items found lol09:18
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usp8riotanyone in here use quanta?09:28
usp8rioti'm just trying it out and the second page i load it won't display09:28
LionRockis possible that I turn on kde desktop sharing throught console ?09:29
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Zaireoh wow not as many items detected by adaware as I thought there would be but still lol 311 items lol09:34
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krinnshi all i have amd 64 machine with high, point, rocket, raid 1640 conroller09:55
krinnshow i pick that controller in kubuntu09:55
krinnsany one works on hihg point09:55
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oomphanyone know what ports need to be open in order to enable freenx?10:20
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oomphoh ya? it uses ssh port by default?10:22
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zorglu1it goes on top of ssh10:25
zorglu1aka your ssh account will still work10:25
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dendrayahi guys10:38
dendrayai have a problem: i can't log-in into kubuntu10:38
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dendrayausername/passwd is right but it seems to be a problem with kde?10:38
Lynouredendraya: You get an error? Or what happens?10:38
dendrayaif i log-in there is for about a second a black display with a watch and then i'm back at the log-in screen10:39
zorglu1try in text10:40
zorglu1do ctrl-alt-f1, you will get a text loggin10:40
dendrayait works in text but i want to have a gui10:40
zorglu1so loggin succeed in text ?10:40
zorglu1ok so the issue is not the username+passwd10:40
zorglu1maybe some apps which are launched by kde when you login10:41
zorglu1maybe some X issue10:41
zorglu1it can be many things10:41
dendrayamaybe wine??10:41
Netcad./ara do-g016 | grep uid= | grep -v filter | cut -d = -f 2 | cut -d , -f 1 ; ./ara do-g016 | grep macaddress: | cut -d , -f 3 <--- this one gives me results on separate lines. what should I replace ; with in order to get the results on the same line?10:41
zorglu1dendraya: i dunno, try all the failsafe you can10:42
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zorglu1dendraya: look at logs. /var/log/Xorgsomething10:42
zorglu1i dunno if kde log its 'boot' session10:43
zorglu1look for /var/log/kdmsomething maybe10:43
dendrayazorglu1: ok, i will... btw, how can i start the x-server from commandline?10:43
zorglu1dendraya: i dunno, this is a pain :) in the past "startx" was working10:43
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dendrayaah, ok, then i'll first take a look at the logs...10:44
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exces__plz tell me how can i set up the printer in kubuntu10:59
Ash-Foxexces__, I'd use cups10:59
Ash-Foxexces__, just open this page: http://localhost:631/11:00
Ash-FoxThis should let you configure everything :)11:01
exces__10x Ash-Fox11:02
exces__i have a local network...11:02
exces__and the other comp is on win11:02
Ash-Foxexces__, install the 'printing services for unix' service on the windows computer11:03
Ash-Foxexces__, it should be in the network card settings, where you can enable/disable/uinstall/install additional networking protocols11:03
exces__i try11:04
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Ash-Foxexces__, this will work with cups :)11:04
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oomphj #cedega11:04
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liviuxhi all11:10
drewfusfor some reason my usb flash drive is only showing 4 megs of freespace, and i know for a fact it has 128 and is empty.  can anyone help me with this?11:14
Ash-FoxTried formatting it?11:15
drewfusi plugged it in and it came up.  i moved a bunch of files off of it to make room for some mp3's and now it says i only have 4 megs11:16
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Ash-FoxDid you try formatting it?11:16
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drewfusif i format it on linux, will that mean i cant read it on an xp system?11:17
Ash-FoxNo, it should format it as vfat/fat32 by default11:17
Ash-Fox(which is the filesystems that windows xp uses)11:18
drewfusok.  how do i format it in ubuntu?11:19
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Ash-FoxI'd use a more manual method typing in the console 'mkdosfs /dev/sda1' (if /dev/sda1 is the device), or you could right click it in the media: directory in konqueror11:22
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Ash-Foxactually, the proper url is 'system:/media' in konqueror, just right click the device and click 'format' :)11:24
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drewfusok, hang on11:27
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drewfusit says permission denied when i do that in konsole11:27
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drewfusi dont think i have konquerer11:28
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exceswaterhello pplz11:32
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exceswatercan any1 help me11:32
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exceswateri need a DEMONOID invitation11:32
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exceswatercan u give me one11:32
etiopicahola :)11:32
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Ash-Foxdrewfus, if you're using kubuntu, you're most likely under kde, and definately have konqueror then11:34
Ash-Foxit's the kde file manager.11:34
drewfusoh, wait, im in the wrong room11:34
drewfusim using ubuntu11:34
Ash-Foxsudo mkdosfs /dev/sda111:35
Ash-Foxassuming /dev/sda1 is your usb device, becareful, if sda1 is your harddrive you'll be destroying you primary harddrive.11:35
Ash-Foxerr destroying the data on your primary harddrive.11:35
drewfusok, hang on11:35
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drewfusis that all i have to type?11:37
drewfussigh, im so new my paint is wet:)11:37
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kjauhiainenjag r katjuska11:40
krinnshi all i have amd 64 machine with high, point, rocket, raid 1640 conroller  how i pick that controller in kubuntu11:40
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Ash-Foxkrinns, kernel should automatically support it out of the box, just make sure you got the relevent kernel modules installed11:43
Ash-Fox(assuming that raid controller is supported by kubuntu's kernel)11:44
Ash-FoxGod it's so hot I feel really ill.11:46
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drewfusok, i just figured it out ash-fox.  there was a trash folder on the usb drive.  i didnt know linux made those11:49
drewfusthats why i had no space11:49
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Ash-Foxerr.. linux doesn't11:50
Ash-FoxGnome does though by default, KDE doesn't though.11:51
drewfusah, gotcha11:51
drewfusthanks for your help.  its appreciated11:51
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Ash-Foxno problem.11:51
krinnsAsh-Fox i do11:51
krinnsi compile open source11:51
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Ash-Foxkrinns, you compile open source, what does that mean?11:52
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krinnshigh point raid controller on their site11:53
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krinnswhen i add taht driver before starting the installer its add11:53
Ash-FoxYou will need the kernel sources or kernel headers for your kernel to compile the module.11:53
Ash-FoxAssuming that kernel module isn't already in the repository.11:53
krinnsbut then i run installer and create partitions it hangs11:53
krinnsalready did that11:54
Ash-Foxkrinns, what does /var/log/syslog say about your issues?11:54
krinnsthen i take compiled driver in floppy and insmod driver before running installer11:54
krinnsit says Raid controller pick the raid11:54
krinnsconrtooler and make 2 drives as single drive /dev/sda11:55
krinnsthen i run installer and make partitions but it hangs their11:55
krinnsis this fare raid controller11:55
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Ash-Foxkrinns, I truely believe /var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages would contain information on what happened.11:56
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krinnsok wait il show u logs12:00
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SunnyblizardHey guys!12:00
SunnyblizardDoes someone know how to make the fuse kernel load on strup12:01
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SunnyblizardSo, i have to make the command 'modprobe fuse', execute on startup?12:02
Ash-FoxI would think you would only need todo it once, then it should startup with the system, provided whatever hardware it uses is there.12:03
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Ash-FoxOtherwise it would be a good idea to add it somewhere /etc/modprobe.d/12:03
Ash-Fox*somewhere in12:03
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krinnswell i add it in /etc/modules12:05
krinnsash see logs http://pastebin.ca/8396512:06
krinnsas soon as i do sudo insmdo hpt274.ko12:06
krinnsit sens lods and a popup come up with new disk12:06
Ash-Foxpartitioning still a problem?12:07
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Ash-Foxkpart / parted / fdisk / cfdisk12:07
krinnsit hangs12:08
krinnsthen i reboot and redo all things12:08
krinnsthe it hangs on file system check12:08
Ash-FoxOkay, are you able to switch to another terminal when it's frozen?12:08
krinnseven mouse pointer hangs too12:09
krinnsam afraid its fake raid12:09
Ash-Foxkrinns, I'm quite powerless without logs :/12:11
krinnssee logs i send u12:11
krinnslogs http://pastebin.ca/8396512:11
krinnsu see at this webpage12:11
Ash-FoxYes, I saw, but it didn't show any fatal errors from what I saw (which was a bit hard to read since everything was on one line)12:12
Ash-FoxAlthough I find the "Driver 'sd' needs updating" message interesting.12:13
Sunnyblizardso, this should do it, in etc/modules/:12:14
Sunnyblizardmodprobe fuse12:14
Ash-FoxGoogling it seems to show it's really common with ubuntu kernels.12:14
Sunnyblizarddamn, forget to start kate as root :P12:14
krinnssee now http://pastebin.ca/8396712:14
Ash-Foxkrinns, does your kernel have SMP?12:15
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zabaI need help i dont have change Theme for kde :(12:17
Ash-Foxzaba, run kcontrol12:18
zabaI dont have Kcontrol in menu :(12:18
Ash-Foxzaba, that's why I asked you to run it :)12:19
Ash-FoxK -> run -> kcontrol12:19
Ash-Foxerr K -> Run command -> kcontrol12:19
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krinnsSMP means12:20
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Ash-Foxkrinns, SMP is a feature used in the kernel for multiple proccessors, I do believe the default kubuntu kernel boots from a SMP kernel, it sometimes causes weird issues. So if you're booting from the default, try booting the installer with a non-smp kernel.12:21
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Ash-Fox(it should be on the installer cd)12:22
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kojakhow do u create a user in ubunt12:37
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gemidjykojak: #ubuntu12:38
SunnyblizardYeay, fuse kernel loads on startup now :)12:39
SunnyblizardNext problemm, hoe do i execute this command on startup: ntfsmount /dev/hda2 /mnt/c -o fmask=0111,dmask=0 ?12:39
kojakgemidjy: ?12:39
gemidjykojak: u use ubuntu?12:40
gemidjythis is #kubuntu12:40
kojakreallY? wow12:40
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Ash-FoxSunnyblizard, cat /etc/mtab pull out the mount line in there, then add it to /etc/fstab12:42
krinnsu see the logs12:43
Ash-Foxkrinns, yes, I saw A log.12:44
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SunnyblizardThanks ash-fox, sould i delete the line in mtab ?12:44
Ash-FoxSunnyblizard, no, mtab is just a file that keeps the currently mounted device12:45
SunnyblizardI see :)12:45
Ash-Foxerr currently mounted devices12:45
Ash-Foxfstab is read on startup and devices are automatically mounted usually from it, unless specified otherwise in certain parameters.12:45
SunnyblizardOk, brb, reboot ;)12:45
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Sunnyblizardi see^^12:46
shriphanii got a question12:46
Ash-Foxshriphani, go ahead12:46
shriphanican anyone tell me what i need to install for playing mp3's in amarok12:46
Ash-Foxkrinns, have you tried booting from a non-smp kernel and tried partition editing again?12:46
shriphaniin ubuntu i did a gstreamer0.8-mad12:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:47
shriphanithank you v much :)12:47
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krinnswhat u mean12:52
krinnsSMP is12:52
krinns64 bit kernel right12:52
Ash-FoxIsn't SMP on 32bit kernels too?12:53
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usp8riotanyone in here know c programming?01:00
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Lynoureusp8riot: some, but I bet there is #c too01:01
Ash-FoxSorry the proper channel is ##C01:01
centyxhi. using amarok 1.4.1, having trouble getting it to play flac. I've installed flac and libflac7. what else do I need to do?01:01
krinnswhat u mean01:01
krinnsplz clarify01:02
usp8riotok, i tried compling a prog and get an error on a few lines "syntax error before string constant"01:02
usp8riotperror (__FUNCTION__ ": malloc"); - apparently that's what's getting errors01:02
usp8riotis it because i may be using a different version compiler?01:02
usp8rioti don't program, i'm merely investigating why the program got the errors01:03
Ash-Foxgcc4 instead of gcc3.01:05
Ash-Foxif you compile it with gcc3, it should be fine.01:05
usp8riotis there a way to choose which compiler i use in the command line?01:06
Ash-Foxyeah.. type gcc3 instead of gcc4 in to compile the code...01:07
Ash-Fox(assuming gcc3 is even installed)01:07
usp8rioti'm not getting anything for gcc3 or 401:08
usp8riotsays 'command not found'01:08
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Ash-FoxIf you're using a makefile, you'll have to look at how the makefile was made and 'fix' it.01:08
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usp8rioti'm in trouble there, i don't know how to program01:09
krinnsSh u there01:10
Ash-Foxkrinns, yes.01:10
krinnswhat u understand by logs01:10
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Ash-Foxkrinns, one minute01:11
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Ash-Foxkrinns https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDapperKnownProblems#head-56968a1267577eca731b2d9e9cf53b58033dc5dd01:15
Ash-Foxkrinns, is that related?01:16
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krinnswait let me check01:17
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krinnswhat this is01:18
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krinnswont think so01:18
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Ash-Foxkrinns, okay, could you boot your linux system with the parameters 'noapic nolapic' in grub, and see if you can partition properly?01:20
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krinnsi ahve kubunt01:21
yaluQ: if you install a program, how does it en up in the kde menu? it appears ubuntu doesn't install the Debian menu system by default (no update-menus available)01:21
krinnsihow i boot kubuntu like that01:21
usp8riotany c coders in here yet?01:21
krinnsi am new to kubuntu01:21
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bluesceadahow can i update to edgy ?01:22
bluesceadai know it's "bleeding edge"01:22
bluesceadaand still not complete..01:22
bluesceadabut i hope it has more advanced acpi/apm support01:22
Ash-Foxbluesceada, change repsositories and run apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade01:22
bluesceadai think that this could be a problem of my laptop freezing sometimse01:22
Ash-Foxkrinns, blah.. this is a headache01:23
bluesceadaAsh-Fox: oh just that?01:23
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Ash-Foxbluesceada, should be just that01:23
bluesceadamm okay01:23
bluesceadaso change the "dapper" in the sources.list to "edgyeft" ??01:23
bluesceadaor "edgy"01:23
bluesceadahm i will try01:23
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krinnswhat i do01:26
krinnsdo u know abt fake raid01:26
Ash-Foxkrinns, when grub appears on startup, hit 'e'. On the line that begins with 'kernel /boot/vmlin...." goto the end and add "noapic nolapic" to the end, then start linux01:26
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Ash-Foxkrinns, fake raid shouldn't cause the system to lock up the way it is for you.01:26
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Ash-Foxkrinns, linux shouldn't really lock up anything. So, it's just assumption that certain things are causing a lock up. I'm not sure if that will work, but if we find it's those options let you do what you want, we found the problem.01:28
Ash-FoxI'll also note that right now I'm not feeling well at all. And if I feel any worse, I may just goto bed.01:29
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inc|freakyhi all. i just tried installing winxp on another partition on my hdd but it didnt work. anyway, it removed grub from the mbr - how can i restore that? (i have the kubuntu dapper dvd)01:34
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:35
SunnyblizardNice :)01:35
inc|freakythx ;D01:35
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LamingtonHello, I've just installed a new hard drive in my PC and made it a new primary partition with qtparted (is this ok ?) but I don't know how to get it to appear in system:/media01:38
Emessmount it01:38
Emessget its location from /dev/hdx01:38
Emessthen mount /dev/hdx01:38
Lamingtonok so mount /dev/sda1 (in this case)01:39
Lamingtonk thanks Emess01:40
Emessmight need to sudo it depending on if you have non-root mounting enabled01:40
LamingtonI will sudo it01:40
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Lamingtoncan't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab01:40
Emessah i had that same problem a while back, edit your fstab to include it01:41
Emessactually lemme see if i can find where i got help for it from01:41
Lamingtonuh ok01:41
Ash-Foxmount /dev/sda1 first, then copy the relevent line from /etc/mtab to /etc/fstab01:42
Ash-Foxby copying it to /etc/fstab, you ensure it will be automounted at boot.01:43
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Emessi used the DiskMounter script for it01:44
arsohaving trouble. ....again01:45
h3sp4wnhow ?01:46
Emesslol, what si ti this tiem arso?01:46
arsogot an ext3 partition01:47
arsoext3 driver for windows01:47
arsoworked fine  read/write on windows/linux01:47
arsountill a few days, i would get access denied in linux if try ot copy from it01:47
Ash-Foxeven as root?01:47
arsoand "this drive is not formatted, uwanna format" on windows01:47
Ash-Foxtry running fsck on it01:47
arsoAsh-Fox:  yes01:47
arsorunning wat?, <newb here>01:48
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Ash-Foxfsck is the 'scan disk' utility on linux01:48
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h3sp4wnarso: Is it also your root partition ?01:48
arsono , its not01:48
Ash-Foxfsck.ext3 /dev/hdc3 for example, that will check the hdc drive, 3rd partition01:48
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arsook then, in konsole right?01:49
h3sp4wnarso: It should be unmounted first01:49
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h3sp4wnarso: sudo umount /whereitis/mounted01:49
arsook i unmounted01:49
h3sp4wnthen sudo fsck.ext3 (as above)01:50
diopcan i read some .pub files (publisher) in ubuntu ?01:50
arsook its doing its thing01:50
diopand how can i have the banlist in konversation ?01:50
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Emesskonversation? they still include that?01:51
Ash-Foxdiop, microsoft publisher runs fine under wine here.01:51
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diopi dont know Emess, i dont find01:51
Ash-Foxdiop, not aware of any opensource software that can read publisher files though.01:51
diopah under wine01:52
Emesswhat are you tring to find? the banlist for a channel? because thats nto part fo the client, its chanserv01:52
arso/dev/hdb5 contains a file system with errors, check forced.01:52
arsoPass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes01:52
arsobeen like that for a while,01:52
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h3sp4wndiop: .kde/share/config/konversationrc (bans are Ignore0=blah)01:53
diopthanks h3sp4wn01:53
diopu 2 Ash-Fox THANKS01:53
h3sp4wndiop: I think there may be somewhere in the gui but I haven't found it yet01:53
arsoh3sp4wn:  so, now wat?01:54
arso/dev/hdb5 contains a file system with errors, check forced.01:54
arsoPass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes01:54
arsoPass 2: Checking directory structure01:54
arsoFilesystem contains large files, but lacks LARGE_FILE flag in superblock.01:54
h3sp4wnJust wait until it finishes01:54
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diopok h3sp4wn01:54
h3sp4wnIts the windows ext3 driver which has probably messed it up01:54
arsoh3sp4wn:  messed the partition?01:56
arsoh3sp4wn:  so how do i get my data out of there, i am getting access denied here, its a 63gb drive FULL of data01:57
h3sp4wnarso: I wouldn't trust any windows ext3 driver01:57
h3sp4wnarso: Wait until fsck has finished01:57
arsohow do i know its done?01:58
arsothis is wat it shows "Fix<y>?"01:58
h3sp4wnpress y01:58
h3sp4wnlet it fix all of them01:58
Emessgrrr adept wont open..01:58
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arsoPass 3: Checking directory connectivity02:00
arsoPass 4: Checking reference counts02:00
arsoPass 5: Checking group summary information02:00
arso/dev/hdb5: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****02:00
arso/dev/hdb5: 16052/7749632 files (75.0% non-contiguous), 13065985/15498693 blocks02:00
h3sp4wnarso: remount it then02:00
arsowhen i copy/paste, still access denied02:01
h3sp4wnwhere is it mounted ?02:01
arsohow do i find out02:01
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Ash-Foxmount it under it's old name? mount /mnt/share ?02:03
arsoi just right click>mount02:03
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Emessis there any reasonm adept will only openw ithout root, being useless then?02:06
arsoh3sp4wn:  u there buddy02:06
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LamingtonHello again02:06
LamingtonJust wondering, where is the appropriate place to mount my second hard drive ?02:07
imbrandonEmess, " kdesu adept "02:07
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imbrandonLamington, /meda/hdb ?02:07
ccc_Lamington: anyplace you like... /media could be a good place. i mount mine in my home dir02:08
Lamingtonoh ok, think I'll put it in /media then02:08
Lamingtonthanks :)02:08
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LamingtonDoes anyone have an opinion on what might be considered the better filesystem for multimedia ?02:11
arsohow do i become root?02:12
bluesceadaarso: "sudo -s"02:12
bluesceadaroot shell at least02:13
arsowats root shell02:13
arsoi am getting access denied when i try to paste somethign from a partition, i wanna fix that02:13
bluesceadaarso: a root terminal/console02:13
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arsoso which command for an overall superuser02:14
bluesceadaarso: open konsole, "sudo -s", then run konqueror from there02:14
bluesceadaarso: that's a security hole, don't do it02:14
Sunnyblizardkdesu konqueror02:15
Sunnyblizardenter your password02:15
Sunnyblizardand you have a root konqeuror02:15
bluesceadaSunnyblizard: doest that work in kubuntu when it's just using sudo02:15
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mossmansudo konqueror  will do the same02:15
paddesanAny swedish suport?02:16
ccc_Lamington: ext3 or reiserfs02:16
ccc_paddesan: #ubuntu-se02:16
Lamingtonty ccc_02:17
arsobluesceada:  security hole? so then wat do i do?  i cant write on my partition02:17
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LamingtonI'm getting an error when I try to mount it02:18
LamingtonThe system reported: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,02:19
Lamingtonmissing codepage or other error02:19
LamingtonIn some cases useful info is found in syslog - try02:19
Lamingtondmesg | tail or so02:19
Lamington[17190317.620000]  VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sda1.02:20
Lamington[17190813.408000]  ReiserFS: sda1: warning: sh-2021: reiserfs_fill_super: can not find reiserfs on sda102:20
LamingtonI've tried both02:21
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DunedanIs there a possibility to control which applications should be installed during the installation (with the alternate cd)?02:23
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bluesceadaarso: mount it as user :S02:24
ccc_Lamington: well, what format is it? you can't mount it without creating a file system first.02:24
arsobluesceada:  umm how :P02:24
bluesceadaarso: or is it ntfs??02:24
bluesceadaarso: should be by doing it in media:/02:25
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arsobluesceada:  its ext302:25
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Lamingtonccc_: Its a reiserfs partition02:29
Lamingtonccc_: oh just a sec02:29
arsobluesceada:  are u lost?02:31
bluesceadaarso: ?02:31
Lamingtonccc_: formatting as ext3 with qtparted now02:31
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arsobluesceada:  any ideas ?02:33
bluesceadaarso: ah you dont know how to do it??02:34
bluesceadajust mount it..02:34
bluesceadathen open a root console02:34
bluesceadayou are probably not familiar with the terminal/console ??02:34
bluesceadai dont know how it would work with a gui02:34
bluesceadakubuntu should be able to do it02:34
bluesceadabut it seems it isnt :(02:34
bluesceadaso you have to do it at terminal level02:34
bluesceadaso open "konsole"02:34
bluesceadatype "sudo -s"02:34
bluesceadathen open with kwrite or so... "kwrite /etc/fstab"02:35
bluesceadathen add to the partition "user" in the options02:35
arsobluesceada:  wow, THANX02:35
bluesceadaANYONE in here knows anything how to solve this at gui level in kubuntu ???02:35
bluesceadaarso: but dont mess around with the fstab too much02:35
bluesceadabe careful02:36
arsoi'll just follow ur instructions02:36
bluesceadapaste me the line in here before you save it02:36
arsoany chances of data loss from wat u said?02:36
Ash-FoxIt's so much easier to describe as command line commands02:36
ccc_Lamington: ok :)02:36
bluesceadaarso: just if you do it wrong, so show me what you changed before you save the file ;-)02:36
arsosure :) thnx02:36
bluesceadayou're welcome02:37
arsoweird thing is02:37
arsoit worked fine for about a week02:37
arso /dev/hdb5 /mnt/hdb5 auto defaults,users 0 002:37
arsoits currently like this02:37
bluesceadaarso: hm damn, that should be right :S02:37
bluesceadaarso: then close the file02:38
bluesceadaclose kwrite02:38
bluesceadanow you are still in the root console02:38
bluesceadathe file system is mounted right?02:38
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bluesceadathen do a "chown -R yourusername /mnt/hdb5"02:38
bluesceadathat changes permissions of all files to your user02:39
bluesceadaso you are the file owner then02:39
bluesceadathen try it out before you close the (k,c)onsole ;-)02:39
bluesceadaif you can write..02:39
arsoi can02:40
arsoyay :D02:40
arsoso is this permanent, or does it change at reboot02:40
Lamingtonccc_: woohoo, a new media has been detected ;)02:41
bluesceadaarso: permanent02:41
bluesceadayou changed the file permissions on the file system02:41
bluesceadaif you want to know more about those commands you can read man pages02:42
bluesceadaby doing this on console: "man chmod" "man chown"02:42
bluesceadathey describe quite well how to use these commands ;-)02:42
Ash-Foxit's nicer if you open them in konqueror using man:chmod or man:chown as the URLs02:42
Ash-Foxinfo:chmod I belive provided more info02:43
bluesceadahm yeh maybe02:43
bluesceadaanyone knows if there are any edgy iso's avaliable?02:43
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Ash-Foxbluesceada, don't think so. Just change your repositories and do a update, dist-upgrade, upgrade02:44
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bluesceadayeh i know, okay thanks02:44
Ash-Foxbluesceada, although if you want the latest stuff.. why not just stick with backports?02:45
bluesceadaAsh-Fox: hm dunno .. how to use those?02:45
bluesceadaand what does it mean exactly..?02:45
bluesceadawill it also give me a kernel upgrade02:45
Ash-Foxbackports are just the stuff from unstable, compiled on the stable version02:45
bluesceadaand all the important stuff like acpi etc.02:45
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:45
bluesceadaAsh-Fox: ah and what is the difference to edgy then02:45
bluesceadai especially want the hardware near stuff to be more up to date02:46
kakaltoI'm getting an error about klauncher on startup02:46
Ash-Foxedgy is a totally different version of the distro02:46
kakaltocannot connect to klauncher or something02:46
bluesceadai'm not familiar with versions, using gentoo since some years :D02:46
Ash-Foxbackports just contain the latest applications from the new distro02:46
bluesceadaAsh-Fox: that means new kernel ??02:46
kakaltoand my whole desktop seems pretty unstable02:46
bluesceadaAsh-Fox: also kernel etc. ?02:46
Ash-Foxno it doesn't02:46
bluesceadaokay then i need edgy...02:46
bluesceadatrying if it fixes my crashes (i still dont know where they come from exactly, but this might be the case=02:47
Ash-Foxwhy not just look in the logs?02:47
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Ash-Foxbluesceada /var/log/ is your friend at diagnosing serious issues :)02:48
Ash-FoxParticulary the syslog file in there.02:49
bluesceadaAsh-Fox: i know02:49
bluesceadabut there is nothing02:49
bluesceadai also had hangs on this box without having logs of it ...02:49
arsohey guys02:49
LamingtonCould someone explain (at least briefly) why 128meg of my new drive is being used by the filesystem ? Whats it using all that for ?02:49
arsoa flash disk02:49
arsowhere does it get mounted02:50
arsoin root02:50
bluesceadaarso: maybe /media/something02:50
arsok thnx02:50
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Ash-FoxLamington, meta data, security descriptors, journaling etc.02:50
LamingtonAsh-Fox: alrighty then :P02:51
Ash-FoxLamington, depends on the filesystem really, usually that huge chunk it begins with is just reserved space for where information can grow02:51
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LamingtonAsh-Fox: ah rite... I'm using ext302:52
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Ash-FoxLamington, journaling :)02:52
LamingtonAsh-Fox: its all good then :)02:53
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whateverhey guys02:58
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beavisi have an observation about kubuntu x6403:01
Lamingtonwhats that ?03:02
beavisits really sloow compared to suse x64 install ,03:02
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LamingtonI installed kubutnu x64 for a friend, didnt seem to take long03:02
beavisim not talking about the installation time ,03:03
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beavistalking about the system03:03
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Lamingtonthat seemed fine too03:03
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beavispossibly, im just saying what ive seen on my machine03:04
serveriI can't find freetds binary for Ubuntu for AMDx6403:04
serveriHelp me03:04
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larson9999from what i've heard so far, i think i'll pass for now on amdx6403:04
h3sp4wnlarson9999: why ?03:05
beavisive used kubuntu x64 for about 4 weeks then i installed suse x64 and everything runs 10x faster on the same cpu03:05
bluesceadabeavis: how so03:05
larson9999on 64 in general.  h3sp4wn i only hear about things not working and taking forever to get setup correctly03:05
serveriHelp me, I can't find freetds binary03:05
bluesceadamaybe you forget getting the correct drivers etc. ;-)03:05
beavisbluesceada: its just not sluggish anymore03:05
Lamingtonmmm drivers make all the difference03:06
serveri`whereis freetds` not helps03:06
h3sp4wnlarson9999: Someone has written a wrapper for using 32bit firefox plugins on 64 bit03:06
LamingtonI updated my nvidia driver recently03:06
bluesceadabeavis: maybe you didnt install the graphics driver?03:06
Lamingtonboy did I get a speed boost03:06
bluesceadaif you have ati or nvidia kubuntu wont install as it's not free... (if i'm right)03:06
larson9999h3sp4wn: i heard that but what people i know tell me who use it is that it's got issues03:06
bluesceadaLamington: hrhr ..03:07
bluesceadathat's what beavis probably forgot03:07
beavisits something else , i installed the drivers03:07
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h3sp4wnlarson9999: I am going to buy a 64 bit chip I think within a week or 203:07
larson9999h3sp4wn: that and the fact i'm out of work now so a new system will have to wait anyway03:08
beavisi still like kubuntu , im just saying there might be something wrong with it , performance wise ,03:08
Lamingtonbluesceada: I was already happy with the speed of the previous driver from nvidia, but with a new install I got a newer driver and it was a case of, "ooooh nice !"03:08
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h3sp4wnbeavis: I know something is wrong with it performance wise - Haven't figured out what yet03:08
mrbojangliewhenever i use linux on this machine (hp laptop) i always notice some kind of latency/response with the GUI03:09
larson9999well linux is basically linux so if it runs fast in suse, you should be able to get it to run fast in ubuntu.  there are exceptions i suppose.03:09
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mrbojanglieit appears quite slugish03:09
h3sp4wnbeavis: On a powerful chip though I would be less bothered but my laptop runs kanotix (debian sid) for precisely that reason03:09
mrbojanglieis it a driver problem03:09
h3sp4wnmrbojanglie: I switched to kanotix for my laptop for exactly that reason03:10
bluesceadamrbojanglie: probably yes03:10
bluesceadamy laptop sucks too03:10
bluesceadatrident driver is buggy in kubuntu03:10
h3sp4wnIt only has 256mb03:10
h3sp4wnand 1.2ghz I think03:10
bluesceadanot just trident driver.. some combination between trident driver and some other factors in kubuntu i cant find out03:10
bluesceadaas knoppix works ... even if it has nearly the same version of the driver03:11
mrbojangliethe M$ Windows GUI is incredibly fast and responsive on my laptop, but KDE/Gnome aren't :-(03:11
bluesceadai even tried just the knoppix driver *.deb and it didnt fix it03:11
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bluesceadamrbojanglie: kde should be03:11
bluesceadaif you have enough ram03:11
bluesceadaand if it's an older laptop try xubuntu03:11
serenitymrbojanglie: type glxgears in console03:11
mrbojangliewell its not slow, it just doesn't fell right03:11
bluesceadamrbojanglie: yeh i know, it's the responsiveness03:12
bluesceadabut maybe it means the following:03:12
mrbojangliexlib: connection refused, couldn't open display etc03:12
bluesceadain kubuntu speed stepping / frequency scaling of the cpu works03:13
bluesceadaand in the other distris doesnt ^^03:13
h3sp4wnIt works on kanotix03:13
gioacchinohoe to block a program with kubuntu firewall ?03:13
bluesceadaor it works more correctly in the others03:13
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gioacchinohello h3sp4wn I had reslv the problem with audio card03:13
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bluesceadaisn't kanotix a live cd distro ?03:14
h3sp4wnIt can be installed - and you get a pretty well configured version of debian sid (which is more stable than people make out - at the moment at least)03:14
mrbojangliei have an ATI Radeon graphics card03:14
bluesceadah3sp4wn: ah i might try it out then, thx03:15
mrbojanglieare drivers available via apt?03:15
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)03:15
bluesceadafirst i try edgy03:15
h3sp4wnbluesceada: Make sure you get the easter developer preview otherwise when you dist-upgrade you will have alot of issues (xorg 6.9 to 7.0 translation)03:15
bluesceadah3sp4wn: ? of kanotix?03:16
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ToyManhi all03:16
ToyManis there a cmnd line switch to start the kubuntu install without first booting to the kde desktop?03:17
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kakalto "cannot talk to klauncher" isn't fixed?03:19
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h3sp4wnbluesceada: Yes - the live cd also loads itself into a swap partition if you have one so its fast03:20
bluesceadaToyMan: maybe it's failsafe from the grub menu (press esc before booting), but i don't know03:20
bluesceadah3sp4wn: ah..03:20
bluesceadabut i want some installed os03:20
gioacchinohow to block a cracked program with http autentication ?03:20
bluesceadawith being able to use all the packages stuff etc03:20
h3sp4wnbluesceada: You can just install it03:21
bluesceadah3sp4wn: ok and most *.debs work?03:21
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h3sp4wnbluesceada: You use the sid repositories03:21
gioacchinohow to block a cracked program with http autentication ?03:22
h3sp4wnbluesceada: I Have not had any major problems in the few months I have been using it - but I wait a few days before updating anything like X03:22
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h3sp4wnbluesceada: http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/kanotix/preview/KANOTIX-2006-Easter-RC4.iso - incidently edgy (which my desktop is running) has been more broken recently but seems to be quite fast03:24
bluesceadah3sp4wn: okay, thanks03:25
bluesceadamy desktop is running gentoo03:25
bluesceadait's probably the hardware from the laptop etc.03:26
bluesceadai should sell it ..03:26
bluesceadai just bought it from ebay though :S03:26
bluesceadaO.o edgy removes adept03:27
bluesceadawhy that?03:28
h3sp4wnI don't use adept03:28
bluesceadahm ok03:28
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LamingtonI like Adept03:28
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arsohey guys03:29
arsoi got a movie03:29
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arsointo multiple rar files03:29
Lamingtongnite all03:29
arsohow do i extract those03:29
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bluesceadaarso: unrar the main file03:32
bluesceadamaybe you need to install some rar package03:32
bluesceadasearch for "rar" in adept03:32
bluesceadaenter it in the top line and wait..03:32
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arsok thnx03:33
arsowat does ur nick mean?03:33
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mrbojangliehey, i'm trying to install ATI's video driver but the installation is failing with this error:03:36
mrbojanglieNo kernel module build environment03:36
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arsoi cant find any useful rar 'ing program :(03:39
arsono one knows03:39
DN_Wto unrar or rar03:39
arsothose file rared into 40+ small rars that unrar into 1 file03:40
arsothis sounds funny03:40
DN_Wsudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list03:41
arsocan i kate?03:41
DN_Wdont know try it03:41
LjLif you can't find rar in the repositories, you need to add universe and/or multiverse to the sources.list, which you can edit with whatever editor you like03:42
DN_Wuncomment all of the repositories03:42
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource03:42
arsook i am in03:42
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:42
arsoDN_W:  i am in, now wat03:42
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ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource03:43
DN_Wread those03:43
arsoso wat do i need to instal03:44
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Snakeofftopic --> Does anyone in here use photoshop that could help me with something? Heh..03:45
arsoi used photoshop, on windows tho03:46
Snakethats fine03:47
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gioacchinohow to block a program but no the other program using the equal port ?03:47
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CntryboyWhere can I find an easy to understand howto on creating a firewall?? I guess it would also be ip tables, but not sure.03:51
Cntryboyor can I download something sorta like zonealarm, but for linux03:52
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)03:52
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ninniuzwhat happened to cups?!03:53
ubotuI know nothing about l7-filters03:53
Cntryboyabattoir: that doesn't really tell me much lol03:53
mrbojangliehey could someone lend me a hand please :-) i've installed linux-source-2.6.16 and linux-kernel-headers03:53
mrbojanglieand i still get the error: No kernel module build environment03:53
Snake!rar > arso03:53
mrbojangliewhen using ATI's driver installer03:53
abattoirCntryboy: try installing firestarter ;)03:53
ninniuzadept told me there were updates and after the update cups doesnt work anymore03:54
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)03:54
ninniuzdpkg said there was an error with those packages03:54
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ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:55
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Cntryboy26dang started lagging03:56
luca__qualcuno parla italiano03:56
LjLluca__: surely someone does in #ubuntu-it :-) see what Ubotu said above ^03:56
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Cntryboy26abattoir: where is a howto for firestarter03:57
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abattoirCntryboy26: i'm searching :)03:57
abattoiri thought ubotu will come up w/ a link... :(03:57
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ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)03:57
LjLno, no howto here03:57
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h3sp4wnCntryboy26: http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/index.html - its not that difficult to just setup a firewall using iptables03:58
abattoirCntryboy26: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Firewall_.28Firestarter.2903:58
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abattoirCntryboy26: the one i gave is not helpful :-\03:59
Cntryboy26abattoir: why not?03:59
__osh___Why do I have to give a password when installing bugfixes? On a desktop-os, shouldn't that be more automatic? IMHO MS-Windows does this right, why not copy the good things?03:59
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abattoirCntryboy26: it tells you how to install, 'sudo apt-get install firestarter' that;s all :(04:00
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LjL__osh___: the policy is that everything that involves touching the entire system (as opposed to just the "safe haven" of your home directory), root privileges are required. and those require a password04:00
LjLit's a good policy, that's been applied on Unix systems since a 30 years04:01
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xplosifslt slt04:02
samuli__osh__, Imagine if a virus or spyware of something was forcibly trying to infect your system. Now it can't because it doesn't know the password.04:02
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LjLsamuli: well, that's why APT repositories are now PGP protected. but still, the concept you're pushing across is right.04:02
__osh___LjL: Yes, but it's my own login password that I use to touch the whole system. Again, IMHO, it doesn't add security, it just teaches me to be sloppy with my password. "Oh, something, whatever it is needs my (root enabled) password. Let's just type it in as I always do." sort of thing.04:03
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arsoanyone got this virus? dont click!!!!:  "hey can i put this pic of us on myspace? http://pic11.photodump.info"04:05
arsomy friends pc got owned with it04:05
__osh___I know the idea and I've been working with unix/linux for the last 10-years or so. I'm just questioning some of the fundamentals. Some things Unix/Linux does very good, others not so. Let's improve the things that aren't so good.04:05
LjL__osh___: well, i'll grant that perhaps security updates could be installed without user intervention. it'd have to be thought quite accurately though before it is implemented.04:05
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LjL__osh___: hm well, i just think there are other priorities personally. i don't see having a password asked on system update a serious flaw compared to many other things, though that's certainly subjective04:06
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LjLs/quite accurately though/quite accurately thought out/04:06
__osh___LjL: I think there's something called tags in the newer apt. Perhaps someone is already thinking in these lines?04:07
LjL__osh___: tags are more for allowing better searching inside that APT database, for what i know04:07
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LjLarso: not a good idea to post that site, even though you indicated to avoid clicking it.04:08
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grizzlyHow to autoUNMOUNT "so that umount /dev/hdc isn't required before pressing the eject button04:08
__osh___LjL: Agreed, there are quite a few things that needs to be improved. Like I keep hearing about the "Enterprise" linux all the time. I don't however see any "Enterprise" tools coming out. Like a tool that will allow me to automate some tasks on 30 of my 100 machines, Yes, I know how to write scripts but that's not the point. I shouldn't have to. Not if it's an "enterprise"-product.04:09
arsoLjL:  hmm, k04:09
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grizzlyIs it possible btw?04:10
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__osh___grizzly: put a timeout on the automounter so that it unmounts it automatically after a period of time?04:11
__osh___grizzly: then it will probably already be unmounted when you push eject.04:11
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__osh___grizzly: with a short enough timeout naturally.04:11
grizzly__osh___: but then that would require manual mounting again. right?04:12
__osh___grizzly: not if you mount it with (automount/supermount whatever it's called now) from fstab.04:12
grickhi people, i have problem signing mail with S/MIME in kmail. Do someone here use kmail with a CA certificate and can give me an hint? (i have error logs here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/QNGMuU13.html) ps: i already have followed this howto: http://kmail.kde.org/kmail-pgpmime-howto.html04:13
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grizzly__osh___: k, will try. Any man pages for more info on this?04:13
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__osh___grizzly: try automount, autofs, fstab, supermount. I'm sure google can help too.04:14
grizzly__osh___: actually google didn't :(04:14
__osh___grizzly: did for me. ;-) http://freespace.sourceforge.net/guidod/howto/autofs.html04:15
__osh___Time to go. baby crying.04:16
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pyrooohello everyone04:16
pyrooocan anyone plz help me?04:16
Cntryboy26is firestarter easy to config? and can I set all ports to stealth?04:17
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gnomefreakpyrooo: that depends. are you gonna tell us whats wrong?04:20
Cntryboy26when I installed firestarter it put icon in settings and in system. Now were there not other stuff in the settings, because it shows firestarter by itself now with nothign else there04:20
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serenityhow to register an irc channel here on freenode?04:32
bluesceadaserenity: join it, /msg chanserv help04:33
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Cedricsshould i used alternate to setup raid or ill still be able with the desktop cd04:34
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serenitybluesceada: but when i leave, the channel is gone...04:35
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bluesceadaserenity: /msg chanserv help tells you all you need to know to register a channel ;-)04:35
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bluesceadaanyone can help, i have now upgraded to edy04:44
bluesceadabut how to use the new kernel from it then?04:44
crimsunyou boot into it?04:45
crimsunwell, does it boot? :-)04:45
bluesceadai just did change repositories, apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade04:45
bluesceadacrimsun: yeah it is still 2.6.15 though04:45
crimsunno it's not04:46
crimsunit's 2.6.17-4-foo04:46
bluesceadabut there is a 2.6.17 image now on /boot04:46
bluesceadacrimsun: no it isnt04:46
crimsunyou mean on /your/ computer it isn't.04:46
bluesceadagrubs menu.lst also still just has 2.6.1504:46
bluesceadacrimsun: yeh, the grub menu doesnt has it04:46
bluesceadaso how can i have it in the menu.lst other than adding manually04:46
crimsunthat's because you picked a bad time to update, since we're juggling grub changes.04:46
gnomefreakbluesceada: i would wait a week or so 2.6.17-4 is going to be getting important updates so you can boot it ;)04:47
bluesceadacrimsun: :S04:47
bluesceadacan i use it anyway?04:48
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gnomefreakbluesceada: get it from synaptic but it might not boot04:48
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bluesceadagnomefreak: synaptic?04:48
gnomefreakbluesceada: sorry adept04:49
bluesceadahm adept isnt there anymore^^04:49
gnomefreakforgot what channel i was in04:49
bluesceadai just can use apt-get04:49
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bluesceadaadept was removed by updating to edgy04:49
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gnomefreakbluesceada: yeah if you like04:49
crimsunbluesceada: yes, just edit menu.lst manually04:49
bluesceadaif i like? what .. adept was just removed :S04:49
bluesceadacrimsun: okay, i try04:50
gnomefreakbluesceada: crimson was 100% correct when he said it is a bad time04:50
bluesceadaas the 2.6.15 has the speedstepping bug for coppermine04:50
bluesceadaand i dont get it fixed for my cpu with that options shown in the wiki04:50
pyrooopeople i have a question,04:50
bluesceadagnomefreak: yeh04:50
pyroooi don't know what to pick - kubuntu,ubuntu or gentoo04:50
gnomefreakbluesceada: dont upgrade to edgy to fix something04:50
pyroooanyone can help me deside please?04:50
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gnomefreakpyrooo: join #kubuntu-offtopic please04:50
pyrooook genomefreak04:51
gnomefreakbluesceada: your gonna see alot of things break this week04:51
pyroooyou freak :P04:51
bluesceadapyrooo: gentoo runs well here, though sometimes you need to do quite much manually04:51
bluesceadagnomefreak: used to it, using gentoo since 3 years or so :D04:51
bluesceadaand nothing did break really :D04:51
bluesceadaused all the 2.6-test kernels ...04:52
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gnomefreakits not the kernel im talking about its edgy that is gonna break04:52
gnomefreakand still is broken04:52
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crimsunit's pretty broken right now w/ grub, and it's gonna break even harder =] 04:53
bluesceadagnomefreak: hm how do i make the initial ramdisk for the 2.6.17 then?04:53
bluesceadagnomefreak: ah okay... dapper is broken enough for me (on that laptop...)04:54
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crimsunbluesceada: it was already created04:54
bluesceadanah it's not there04:54
gnomefreakdapper is no where near as broken as edgy04:54
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crimsunbluesceada: it wasn't created by -4's postinst?04:54
gnomefreakbluesceada: that fix was uploaded already iirc04:54
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bluesceadacrimsun: probably not04:54
bluesceadait's not in /boot04:54
bluesceadagnomefreak: fix for what04:55
crimsunbluesceada: then you're not up-to-date04:55
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bluesceadaconfig and the vmlinuz image of the kernel are there04:55
gnomefreakbluesceada: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade please04:55
bluesceadathough just ramdisks for the two older ones04:55
bluesceadagnomefreak: okay04:55
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bluesceadagnomefreak: doesnt update anything ...04:56
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ceplmaHi, could anybody point me to some HOWTO for upgrading from Debian/testing to Kubuntu?04:57
bluesceadaso ...04:57
bluesceadawhat to do04:57
gnomefreakceplma: you really dont want to do that  that can cause issues04:57
gnomefreakbluesceada: file a bug but first check to see if ther eis one04:57
gnomefreakceplma: upgrading from debian to ubuntu is not a safe way to do it04:58
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ceplmagnomefreak: well, that's the reason why I ask here -- how to avoid these issues?04:58
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gnomefreakceplma: download and burn dapper iso and install it04:59
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crimsunceplma: you /really/ don't want to, since our udevs aren't compatible and don't cross-grade properly or easily.04:59
gioacchinohow to confiure iptable ?05:00
crimsuni.e., it's doable, but you have to know the ins and outs of each udev05:00
gnomefreakgioacchino: firestarter05:00
ceplmacrimsun: udev ? -- you mean package udev managing hardware?05:00
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ceplmaI thought about some kind of upgrade to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WartyUpgradeNotes05:01
ceplmagioacchino: guarddog?05:01
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crimsunceplma: yes, that udev.05:03
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crimsunceplma: not managing so much as enumerating.05:04
gioacchino gioacchino: guarddog? no05:04
gioacchinoI set it from root shell05:04
gioacchino[17:00]  <gnomefreak> gioacchino: firestarter  how to run it ?05:04
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gnomefreakgioacchino: install it first05:05
ceplmacrimsun: whatever ... just that we talk about the same thing.05:05
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grizzlyIs anyone successfully having cds automounted (on insertion) ?05:05
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gioacchinohow to configure iptable from root shell ?05:06
grizzlyconfiguring automount is maddeningly difficult ;(05:06
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exceswaterwho can help me05:07
exceswater ?05:07
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exceswateri have a problem when i play flash games05:07
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Ash-FoxI don't.05:08
ubotuI know nothing about iptable05:08
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)05:08
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Ag_SmithI want block specific sites using IPTABLE on Linux05:11
Ash-FoxAg_Smith, websites can be blocked with privoxy, iptables can only be used to block specific ip (ranges), ports, applications at most.05:15
Ash-Foxerr put users instead of applications there05:15
Ag_Smithhow to block a specifi application ?05:15
Ag_SmithAsh-Fox: how to block a specific application used with wine ?05:16
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l_rThere's an annoying problem with DNS in Kubuntu dapper. The card connects to a gateway and receive the IP from a DHCP server. I configured my dhclient.conf not to ask for DNS to the DHCP server. I manually configured my resolv.conf to use localhost as DNS. The problem is that somewhere resolv.conf keeps being replaced with the address of the gateway. Any idea?05:20
h3sp4wnl_r: /etc/dhclient.conf05:20
Ag_SmithAsh-Fox: how to block a specific application used with wine ?05:21
l_rh3sp4wn, hmm.. yes? please explain05:21
h3sp4wnprepend domain-name-servers;05:21
l_rok..let me see05:21
dr_willisYea - the little service that ubuntu/kububntu uses - can get a little confuseing at times. :()05:21
Ash-FoxAg_Smith, you will need to block all connections from a given username, then run wine under that username05:22
dr_willisya dident notice at the top pf resolv.conf it says "dont edit this file" :)05:22
l_rh3sp4wn, lol, i didn't see that line was commented. thanks for the hint :)05:22
dr_willisat least there used to be a comment there.. im not seeing it now on my laptop's file.05:23
Ash-FoxAg_Smith, xmlspy?05:24
grizzlyAnyway to make this work > sudo mount -a && cd /media/cdrom - with quotes or something05:24
grizzlyNOt functions btw since I am planning to use this as an alias05:25
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thomas_Hallo an alle05:46
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NetSKaVeNhey, I have a stranger problem and I need a little of help to resolve it05:55
NetSKaVeNI'm using dapper updated to KDE 3.5.305:56
NetSKaVeNall is working ok except konqueror05:56
NetSKaVeNI can't see some webs05:56
mossmanKonqueror is not working?  Which websites can't you see?05:56
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NetSKaVeNwww.linux.com or digg05:56
NetSKaVeNI saw them ok before the update05:57
NetSKaVeNand all work well if I use Mepis with 3.5.305:57
mossmanUmmm.  Can you see anything, or are the font's just odd?05:57
NetSKaVeNI can see only the head of digg for example05:58
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NetSKaVeNI tried to delete the konqueror config (.kde/share/apps/konqueror) but it doesn't solve anything05:58
mossmanany other examples?05:59
h3sp4wnNetSKaVeN: did you delete the konquerorrc ?05:59
NetSKaVeNlinux.com: I see only the grey background and the OSTG menu06:00
NetSKaVeNh3sp4wn: where is it?06:00
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mossmandoes this file exist?06:01
NetSKaVeNdeleting it...06:01
h3sp4wnI don't think that will fix it though06:01
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chavoNetSKaVeN, try turning off the adblock06:02
NetSKaVeNh3sp4wn: the same effect06:02
chavoit has issues with some sites06:02
NetSKaVeNit's adblock stuff06:03
NetSKaVeNthanks a lot  :)06:04
chavonp :)06:04
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satemplerNetSKaVeN: ya the ad bock thing has a bug in it06:11
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Shizboomwhat does this dock application bar do06:12
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dr_willisdock apps go in it.06:13
dr_willislike 'wmclock' or 'wmxmms' or dozens of other mini-apps06:13
dr_willisdock apps used to be the big thing. :P06:13
Shizboomhmmm k06:14
dr_willischeck out windowmaker  and all its warf/dock apps. Fluxbox has a simile rfeature as well.06:14
ubuntuHello. Is there a hard drive installation iso image "Kubuntu"?06:15
dr_willisyes. the live cd can install to the hard drive.06:15
dr_willisthe alternative install cd (i think) uses the text based installer.06:16
satemplerubuntu: ya just double click on the Install Icon on the desktop06:16
linuxmonkeythats correct dr_willis06:16
dr_willisI personally use the Ubuntu CD. and install ubuntu, then install kubuntu-desktop06:16
dr_willissince i use both gnome and kde. :P06:16
dr_willis*blasphmy* eh?06:16
satemplerya it is dr_willis06:16
dr_willisthen again - i tend to USE kde, or windowmaker mainly06:17
dr_willis:) its just that some times its easier to let the wife use gnome.06:17
linuxmonkeydr_willis: i take the easy way out...kubuntu and then ubuntu/edubuntu/xubuntu in vmware :)06:17
ubuntuWell. I can't find any installation button. Perhaps this is an olden kubuntu live CD06:17
dr_willisubuntu that would be my guess.06:17
linuxmonkeymore than likely06:17
dr_willisdapper was the first that had the install from live cd feature06:18
dr_willisand that was only in the latest releases I think.06:18
linuxmonkey6.06 :)06:18
ubuntucan anyone write down the adress where Kubuntu installation can be found (sorry bad english)06:19
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fre1about virtual stuff, is there a way to run macosx, on a kubuntu i386 ?06:19
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h3sp4wnfre1: Not legally06:20
DaSkreechdang it!06:20
DaSkreechhi raphink06:20
imachinehow can you run macosx on a linux environment?06:20
fre1h3sp4wn: what do you mean ? like it is possible but only with the macosx on any pc crack ?06:20
imachinelike, in vmare you can06:20
imachinewhat kind of a question is taht06:20
linuxmonkeyhrrrm let me begin. we will not discuss illegal items in this channel06:21
fre1well i dont want to do anything illegal06:21
DaSkreechthat's for #kubuntu-shhhh06:21
h3sp4wnfre1: I think I could do it but I haven't tried (nor do I want to) I prefer e-17 to mac os x06:21
imachinebut hmm.06:21
fre1i want to port a software on maxosx, and dont want to buy a mac just for that06:21
fre1so is there a way ?06:22
imachineyou can run macosx if you are able to pretend you have a mac machine; so find a virtual machine, a mac box emulator, obtain a legal copy of macosx, install that virtyual machine in kubuntu, and you got a macosx in kubuntu, like you asked for06:22
linuxmonkeyfre1: you will have to unless you want apple going after you06:22
h3sp4wngcc can be a cross compiler06:22
linuxmonkeyimachine: thats still illegal06:22
imachinelinuxmonkey, no its not.06:22
imachinemaybe it is.06:22
imachinei dont know, but from a technical point of view, you own the software.06:22
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imachineso you can either make a coaster of the cd/dvd or install it somewhere.06:23
h3sp4wnMac OS X x86 cannot be bought without a mac06:23
fre1imachine: ok is qemu able to do that ?06:23
raphinkhi DaSkreech06:23
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imachinethats my understanding of things, ofcourse i dont know the mac licensing.06:23
linuxmonkeyyes, imachine as your not running it on apple approved hardware...I read the user agreement on osx and it clearly states it.06:23
dr_willisApple Sez :  "We are the Boss of You!"06:24
imachinelinuxmonkey, ok then.06:24
imachineapple is nevertheless, cool.06:24
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dr_willisI disagree with apples coolness06:24
imachinemaybe not with their macbook crap.06:24
imachinex86 bah.06:24
imachinebut the rest is great.06:24
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imachinei like a box thats properly setup.06:25
dr_willisI disagree. :) so phhhht. :P06:25
imachineand runs a commercial unix!06:25
fre1nixternal: well mac on linux is give me all this 'mol' stuff about running linux and maxosx but only on ppc06:25
dr_willisYou dont want to know the fighting ive done with apple  and their hw/os befor.06:25
imachineif im going to pay for something, i'd rather have it a *nix touch :)06:25
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nixternalfre1, you trying to do it on x86?  go buy the new tiger...it will run lovely on your home made machine06:25
imachinedr_willis, maybe so. i still like apple.06:25
dr_willisfor my needs - apple gives me no benifit over the alterantives.06:26
fre1nixternal: mac osx can be bought and run on a normal pc ?06:26
dr_willisbut dont get me started on the things they did in the past..06:26
nixternalyes fre106:26
imachinei use open source software.06:26
imachineim content.06:26
fre1nixternal: ahhhh this is a news :)06:26
h3sp4wnFor my needs it gives me no benefits (other than it can run logic / ableton live)06:26
imachineits stable. and it has console.06:27
imachineit rocks!06:27
fre1personnally i dont care about coolness and stuff, i care about having the stuff ported on the current main plateforms06:27
DaSkreechimachine: Like Vista?06:27
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imachineits the only desktop-oriented *nix OS that i know off that is a commercial *nix.06:27
imachineDaSkreech, vista is not *nix.06:27
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DaSkreechNo but it's touched by it :)06:27
imachineand i dont have excess hardware to use vista.06:27
imachinei have a p3-933 as my main box.06:27
DaSkreechHear hear06:27
imachineand p3-600 as my server.06:28
DaSkreechfre1: No KDE4 for you :) It has coolness built in :)06:28
imachineplus, i dont like window$ :-)06:28
imachineit's too complicated.06:28
h3sp4wnI still don't know how anyone could want anything other than e-17 (unless they are using fglrx)06:29
dr_willisI cant see much that "E-17" gives me that makes me more productive. :)06:30
fre1DaSkreech: close to 'not yet released and wont be anytime soon' label ? :)06:30
dr_willisother then showing off to the windowz crowd. :P06:30
fre1nixternal: is there a keyword or something about the 'work on any pc' feature of the last tiger, im looking at their web page dont ffind info about it06:31
DaSkreechfre1: no they are still working on svn'ing that label :(06:31
h3sp4wnIts got little touches that make things really fast - if you try to work the "e-17" way06:31
imachineh3sp4wn, twm + kde.06:31
imachinei see not how anyone can need more than that...06:31
h3sp4wnYou can't use twn with kde06:31
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: Whats up with fglrx and the 3?06:31
imachinesome people see how you can not need more than a 9600 baud serial connection into a system's vt100 terminal or it's emultor.06:31
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imachineopinions differ, get used to it06:31
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DaSkreechWhoops sorry lapsed to 1337 :-(06:32
dr_willisI used to use serial-vt100's :P06:32
h3sp4wnDaSkreech: e-17 is really unstable with fglrx thats all06:32
imachinenever had a vt100 myself.06:32
h3sp4wndr_willis: I have used vt420's06:32
dr_willisI got one in the garrage. :P06:32
DaSkreechWell my kurrent KDE is as well. Whats the point?06:32
imachinejust use emulators.06:32
dr_willisi tossed an older one.06:32
imachinedr_willis, i wanted to obtained one.06:32
dr_willisits easier to get a cheap pc and ssh now a days06:32
imachinebut its not as easy as i thought areound these parts.06:32
imachinemy alpha system rocks; it has modem support or something like that, you can dial in if you break the box..06:33
dr_willisebay and other sites have them.. or get a  one of those thinclients06:33
imachine;] ] ] ] ] 06:33
dr_willisor get a cheap old pc and a terminal progam.06:33
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imachineyeah, i have a speccie.06:33
imachinei think my speccie would do fine for terminal emulator.06:33
imachinebut the keyboard is a pain in the ass.06:33
dr_willisI got several amigas.. and macse, and others...06:33
imachineamigas rock.06:33
dr_willisits always the littel things that get annoying06:33
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imachinei need to obtain one.06:34
imachinebut firts things first, ps2:)06:34
dr_willisimachine,  where ya live at? I got several.06:34
DaSkreechHi ubuntu06:34
imachinedr_willis, .pl06:34
dr_willis.pl you live in perl land?06:34
h3sp4wnI live in perl land06:34
imachineno, Poland.06:34
dr_willisheh heh06:34
imachinealtho we have a few perl progammers im sure.06:34
dr_willisHeck - amigas should be common over there. and in germany.06:34
dr_willismore popular over there - then here in the USA06:35
imachinedr_willis, you are in the usa now?06:35
imachinewell, they are popular :] 06:35
imachineand easy to obtain.06:35
h3sp4wnI wish I never sold my RISC pc (strong arm based)06:35
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imachinei just dont have the cash to spare at the moment.06:35
imachineh3sp4wn, oh f......06:35
dr_willisSmack dab in the Middle of the USA06:35
imachineh3sp4wn, shame on you06:35
imachine:] 06:35
imachinedr_willis, sounds nice *g*06:35
imachine:] 06:35
gatekeeperz00m: hiya, not sure if they give you the source code so you can compile it06:36
dr_willisabout as middle of the USA as ya can get06:36
gatekeeperz00m: ooops http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/06:36
dr_willisCorn Country!06:36
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serenityi created a script with an & at the end...how to stop this script?06:36
gatekeeperserenity: Ctrl + c06:37
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serenityno, it's no-hub06:37
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z00mgatekeeper: thanks i'll check that out now ;)06:37
gatekeeperz00m: just a thought06:38
imachineare kde4 sshots avail yet?06:39
imachinestill mockups only eh ?06:39
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DaSkreechimachine: You can SVN it06:43
DaSkreechit looks just like 3.5.306:44
DaSkreechor 3.5.1 I think06:44
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imachineDaSkreech, yeah06:45
imachine;] 06:45
imachinei hate the 'when it's done' release scheduling06:45
DaSkreechHa ha, Hey man I've always liked KDE for hte tech under the hood :)06:45
dr_williswould ya rather them give a date then keep moveing it back.06:46
DaSkreechSo as long as that is blazing along I'm happy06:46
DaSkreechAnd I think they may have KDE4 debs in edgy :)06:46
DaSkreechGa-Ron-teed to break your system :)06:46
dr_willisI think we need a windowmanager/DE based on the PalmOS look/feel06:46
dr_willisthta way its totally idiot-proofed. :P almost.06:46
DaSkreechNo Tenor though :(06:46
h3sp4wnI think perfectionists make better software (e-17 is pre alpha but been in development for 6 years)06:47
DaSkreechHas there ever been an e release as stable?06:47
dr_willisgnome was like a pre-aplha for ages.. they kept changeing their window manager and stuff all the time.  then what happened? did ximian kick them in the pants? or some other company?06:47
h3sp4wn0.16 is considered stable06:47
dr_willisso they got their act together.06:47
DaSkreechIt's still DR06:48
DaSkreechDevelopers Release06:48
DaSkreechisn't it?06:48
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dr_willisI thought the DR was part of the name. :P06:48
gatekeeperI tried the EliveCD but could get X to start, but was extreamly impressed with OLiveCD06:49
imachineOlive, Elive.06:49
imachinei just want STABLE e1706:49
imachine;] 06:49
imachine;] 06:49
imachinebut e17 is sort of dying out i think, with all the xgl stuff coming into other windowmanagers.06:50
imachineits still pretty, just not that different anymore.06:50
imachineadd xgl to openbox or something and you almost get e17 ;p06:50
h3sp4wne-17 is getting hardware accelerated effects soon06:50
Hawkwindimachine: No it's not06:50
imachineyeah yeah. soon.06:50
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: Don't hold your breath06:50
imachineHawkwind, what do you mean no its not.06:50
imachineyes it is.06:50
imachinelets flame06:50
Hawkwindimachine: E17 is not dying out06:51
imachineoh well. yeah in that meaning no ofcourse not.06:51
imachineits still being worked on.06:51
HawkwindVery actively.  100+ commits every single day06:51
h3sp4wnHawkwind: I am not holding my breath - I am not really bothered about hardware accelerated effects06:51
dr_willisits constantly being worked on.... like a car that never runs right. :)06:51
imachinebut its just fading out sort of thats what i meant. with all the 3d accelrated effects coming into other WM;s.06:51
imachinedr_willis, its a hotrod.06:51
dr_willisimachine,  yea.. sure..06:52
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: AFAIK there is no plans of putting those effects into E17 any time soon, if even at all.  raster is firmly against that06:52
imachinei just like my volvos.06:52
Hawkwindimachine: No it's not06:52
imachineand small jap cars.06:52
imachine;] 06:52
imachineHawkwind, what is not now. fading out ?06:52
imachinei think it is.06:52
Hawkwindimachine: Where you get your info from I'm not sure.  But E17 is going stronger today than it has in quite some time06:52
gatekeeperdr_willis: lotus - loads of trouble usually serious :-)06:52
h3sp4wnHawkwind: I have read it is getting aiglx support06:52
imachineoh man. read what im writing.06:52
Hawkwindimachine: I'm actively involved in E17 and I know it's not dying out at all06:52
DaSkreechWho is in charge of #ebuntu?06:52
DaSkreechWhich is where I suggest we move this discussion :)06:53
HawkwindDaSkreech: /cs info #Ebuntu06:53
imachineHawkwind, oh fuck. dude. okay. its NOT dying out. its just not the only-nice-looking-3d-acceled-wm out there once xgl kicked in.06:53
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: You read wrong then.  That won't happen as raster won't allow it06:53
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:53
imachinei guess i just have to say things the hard way sometimes.06:53
imachinei dont have kids.06:53
imachineneither do i expect any on irc.06:53
imachinebut okay.06:53
Hawkwindimachine: XGL is a waste of time and energy.  Not everyone likes that junk06:53
imachinesorry about that.06:53
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imachineHawkwind, look man. you like apples. go ahead.06:54
dr_willisi agree with Hawkwind06:54
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DaSkreechHawkwind: How does that make it a waste?06:54
Hawkwindimachine: It's my choice, and many others as well06:54
imachineplease lets end this discussion as i see you are very bullheaded in one direction.06:54
dr_willisXGL - ise it to show off to your friends... then go back to the minimal window manager to get work done.06:54
Hawkwinddr_willis: Yep06:54
imachinei make a small comment, not even insluting your wonderful wm, and you flame on.06:54
imachinebah l;] 06:54
h3sp4wnI agree with hawkwind06:54
HawkwindExactly what XGL is for06:54
imachinedr_willis, and what is E17 for?06:54
Hawkwindimachine: Show me where I've flamed ?06:54
DaSkreechIt's a scalable way of using hardware advances06:54
imachineproductive work?!06:55
HawkwindYou mentioned E17 is dying out.  Those words are completely untruee06:55
DaSkreechIt takes away from CPU usage06:55
imachineHawkwind, i explained myself.06:55
dr_willisimachine,  it seems to be a hobby  of a lot of people. :)06:55
DaSkreechHawkwind: he explained what he meant06:55
imachineHawkwind, i didnt rely to develiopment.06:55
HawkwindGentoo is a hobby too ain't it ?06:55
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DaSkreechDoesn't mean you have to go and take them to case for it06:56
imachinesome people said freebsd is dying too.06:56
DaSkreechMicrosoft has been saying for years the Linux os slowly going to die out06:56
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dr_willisComputers are a fad.06:56
DaSkreechWhy you even bother to listen to them I don't know06:56
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h3sp4wnHawkwind: I am hoping one day to have acceleration available that is good enough for production use (from rasterman's blog) I can wait until he thinks it is ready :)06:56
DaSkreechrasterman is my biggest worry about e though :(06:57
h3sp4wnHe is a perfectionist the world needs more of them06:57
DaSkreechYeah but what if he gets hit by a truck or eaten by a shark06:57
DaSkreechWho takes over?06:57
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h3sp4wnIt becomes one of the great unfinished masterpieces probably06:58
dr_willisRMS !06:58
DaSkreechI don't like projects/concepts/companies run by one person's personality06:59
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DaSkreech*cough* Fruit*cough*06:59
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h3sp4wnI don't under most circumstances - But I think he is one of the people who deserves an exeption07:00
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DaSkreechOh no I have all respect for him. and he's done great work07:01
DaSkreechbut ...07:01
DaSkreechSide point07:02
DaSkreech what's up with HURD?07:02
imachineDaSkreech, you could talk about theo the same way07:02
imachineone person one company one project07:02
imachinesort of07:02
imachinebut its not, he's just the face behind.07:02
imachineyeah, theo de raadt.07:02
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imachineopenbsd flamer and developer.07:02
h3sp4wnThey also write openssh which everyone uses07:03
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DaSkreechOh no I don't worry about OpenBSD I worry about netbsd a lot mroe :)07:03
imachineDaSkreech, whats wrong with net? ;] 07:03
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DaSkreechhi nalioth07:03
DaSkreechIt seems aimless.07:04
imachineDaSkreech, nbsd aimless?07:04
imachineit already supports a million arch07:04
DaSkreechLike it just tries to be ported to every sanyo radio or samsung phone that comes out07:04
DaSkreechYeah that's what I mean.. what the heck?07:04
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h3sp4wnLinux probably run's on more devices - (I want netbsd for WGT634U but it is not ported)07:05
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imachineDaSkreech, thats the idea of netbsd.07:05
DaSkreechNetBSD on Cell should be pretty schweet07:06
imachineto run on many arch and stay portable and unified as good as it can.07:06
imachinecell i dontk now.07:06
imachinebut jornada07:06
imachineis what im aiming for :)07:06
imachinei plan on doing some wifi installations, ISP etc.07:06
imachinea jornada with a wifi card+pigtail+antenna to test would rock.07:06
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h3sp4wnjordana would have not enough power to run a high power wireless card (ubiquiti etc)07:08
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imachineh3sp4wn, it would run enough to provide with 11mbps.07:08
imachineb is all i need.07:09
imachineand i dont need 100mW07:09
imachine;] 07:09
h3sp4wn400mW is best for that type of testing07:09
imachinepeople often overestimate wifi.07:09
imachineno way.07:09
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imachinei got a 64mW + 8dBi antenna.07:09
imachineand serve two people on that.07:09
imachineits not far true that,.07:10
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imachinebut why install massive antennage and high power devices ?07:10
imachineif you can do well without them.07:10
imachineit kills other peoples connections.07:10
imachinethats just stupid.07:10
h3sp4wnFor setting up an isp you should use directional antennas and high quality kit - otherwise you will provide poor service07:10
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imachineh3sp4wn, i know. this is just starting now.07:12
imachinei use linksys *shame*07:12
imachinei;ll throw some orinoco gold cards + ap2000 from proxim soon.07:12
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imachine+ 2x 90 degrees sector 17dBi antennas on every side of the building.07:12
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imachineDaSkreech, buahahah07:12
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DaSkreechJust need to get the stupid nVidia drivers now :(07:13
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imachine;] 07:13
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DaSkreechhi ubuntu07:14
linuxmonkeyDaSkreech: their not stupid...lol its something else that is...lol07:15
DaSkreechlinuxmonkey: Well they are either really smart or really stupid :)07:15
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linuxmonkeylol ive never had issues with them and besides their much better than ATI07:16
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z00mlinuxmonkey: thinks the same GEFORCE RULE07:18
linuxmonkeythis free vmware server rocks07:18
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ubuntui have just recieved kubuntu 6.06 CD and instaled it, when booting I got this: GRUB stage1.5 error 507:21
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Music^Houndwhat needs to be turned on in order for mp3 to work ?07:23
Music^HoundI know its a restricted format07:23
ubuntuI found out  that tis could be couse of broken partition table but how to fix it?07:24
Kr4t05Music^Hound, in KDE, just install libxine-extracodecs07:25
gatekeeperMusic^Hound: I think I just installed libxine-extracodecs w32codecs and they worked07:25
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gatekeeperubuntu: using the installer?07:26
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Music^Houndhmmm can't seem to get those files in adept07:29
gatekeeperMusic^Hound: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories07:30
gatekeeperMusic^Hound: apt-get install libxine-extracodecs07:31
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Music^Houndok got it gatekeeper07:37
gatekeeperMusic^Hound: working ?07:38
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Music^Houndamarok is my main player07:40
Music^Houndnothing beats it07:40
senseiKind of depends on your needs, doesn't it07:41
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gatekeeperMusic^Hound: excellent :-)07:45
Music^Houndsensei: what other needs could there be for a music player ?07:46
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Music^Houndit has music management, lyrics from the web, album covers, ipod support. wikipedia for info on artists all built in07:48
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sebastianHi I installed VMware player into Breezy from the VMware site.  and I have upgraded to Dapper and I want to remove VMware player now and have server instead.  ,but I do not know. how07:51
sebastiansurely it's just some basic command in the shell?  ,but I don't know what07:51
sebastianyes I know VMware player is now in the Ubuntu resporitories in Dapper,  but since I installed on Breezy.  well that dosan't apply to me07:53
sebastianand so I carn't remove it from the package manager07:53
sebastiananyone here?07:53
LjLno, it can't be some basic command in the shell, since you have installed it by simply running the vendor-provided program07:54
Music^Houndgatekeeper: what's needed to say compile amarok from cvs ?07:54
LjLif you're lucky, the vendor also providers an uninstaller script07:54
LjLthat should be in the manual07:54
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sebastianin the manual?  open shell and man vmware player07:54
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LjLmaybe, but i guess it's in some other user documentation, like a README file that came with the tarball07:55
gatekeeperMusic^Hound: build-essentials, but amaroK is in the repos so why do you want to compile?07:55
charlie5hullooo ... is there a way to somehow equalise the levels of a set of mp3's so that they won't play too soft or too loud but all at the same general level ?07:56
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charlie5lol ... alright to rephrase ...07:57
Shizboomwhere would my kde directory be?07:57
Music^Houndgatekeeper: I like to keep up with the latest builds07:58
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gatekeeperMusic^Hound: ok :-)07:58
charlie5DaSkreech: um, any clues ?07:58
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Music^Houndcharlie5: you mean like mp3gain ?07:59
DaSkreechShizboom: ~/.kde08:00
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DaSkreechcharlie5: There we go :) couldn't remember the  name of it08:00
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charlie5Music^Hound: :) ... thats the one ... thanks ... (gah !!! ... you would think i would have had the brains to type mp3 into adept search ... sorry for being lazy)08:01
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BazziI can only recommend using flac :) :love:08:02
charlie5DaSkreech: no probs :)08:02
DaSkreechBazzi: Would that include you recomending sub 100 dollar TB hard drives?08:03
Bazziharddisk cost like /$100 for like 300gb08:03
Bazziit's worth it, really08:03
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DaSkreechI'd rather just burn them off to Armour plated Blu_Rays :)08:04
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=== Bazzi has roughly got 600GB of disk space
DaSkreech`Me too08:04
DaSkreechBut I have like 25 GB free08:04
DaSkreechAnd that's with almost all my albums in ogg08:05
Bazzi260 free here08:05
DaSkreechWith FLAC08:05
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Bazzionce my disks are full I'll just buy bigger ones08:05
Bazzieventually cheaper than burning things off to dvd or the like08:06
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DaSkreechYeah .. Till they crash :)08:07
DaSkreechTo DVD?08:07
Bazzito other disks08:07
Bazziunless murphy comes into place and crashes all of them08:07
DaSkreechWell I've seen it happen :)08:08
BazziI'd still have my documents saved to my laptop then08:08
DaSkreechOf course you know that's not scalable :)08:08
Bazziand all other things can be re-ripped or re-downloaded08:08
nikdo anybody know how to say the system that the key about the left shift should be "F13"? (I would use it for yakuake)08:08
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=== DaSkreech can't imagine reripping all his stuff from Vinyl again
BazziI have those new things called CDs08:08
DaSkreechOh btw how do you kontrolt he mouse with the keyboard?08:09
DaSkreechBazzi: Good for you :)08:09
Music^Houndwhy not use musepack ?08:09
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Bazziwhat advantage does musepack have over flac?08:09
Music^Houndsmaller size08:09
Bazziis it also lossless?08:10
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Bazziso it's no alternative08:10
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Music^Houndpiotrek: stop spamming08:10
piotreksorry i have miss the windows08:10
DaSkreechpiotrek: try using /join08:11
piotreknow it's ok08:11
Music^HoundBazzi: why use such a large file for one song when there are lossy alternatives that sound just as good08:11
BazziMusic^Hound: because converting them is pain08:11
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Music^Houndwhat ever floats your boat I guess08:12
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Music^Houndto me there is no sense in using 300-400 mb of space for one album08:13
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Music^HoundBazzi: how much music do you have on your pc ?08:14
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Bazzicurrently not much08:15
Bazzi50 albums maybe08:15
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DaSkreechhi aseigo08:15
DaSkreechMusic^Hound: Albums?08:15
aseigoDaSkreech: hey =)08:15
Music^Houndthink its like 1600+ albums08:16
DaSkreechOh cause I was about to ask for the list. That's got to be worth something :)08:16
Murfy^the belgian bank KBC is allowing customers to create their own card now, with their own picture on it.. i uploaded something with tux on it and they denied my request.. what sort of copyright is there on tux?08:16
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samuliMusic^Hound, I don't understand using flac over ogg or mp3 either.08:16
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Bazzisamuli: vorbis you mean ;)08:16
Music^Houndonly reason for using flac would be for backing up08:16
samuliMusic^Hound, they play the songs over with 5e computer speakers or 10e headphones and complain that 'it's not lossy'08:16
DarkAuditanyone know of a Linux newsreader that does mp3 search and file seach like News Rover does for windows?08:17
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DaSkreechimachine: NetBSD doesn't have an Xbox port08:17
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DaSkreechinteresting enough08:17
Bazzisamuli: I've got to play it on different players with different formats. just imagine how it sounds once it's been converted lossy three or four times08:17
samulion the other hand I understand people, who have put great amounts of money into their music system, don't like mp3's08:17
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Bazziand mp3 still isn't free, so it's always ahssle08:18
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samuliBazzi, the thing is that you shouldn't :)08:18
Music^Houndmp3 is just for those that don't understand the alternatives08:18
Bazzibut once I've got them lossy, I have to08:18
Bazzinow I just start from flac all the time08:18
samuliwhat do you mean you have to? there isn't many players that don't play mp308:18
Music^Houndflac to me is a waste of space unless I am backing up albums to dvd08:19
imachineDaSkreech, it doesnt?08:19
imachinemaybe so08:19
Bazzimy cell needs them in lower bitrates for saving space08:19
DaSkreechimachine: nope :)08:19
Bazzimy laptop needs them in rather OK quality08:19
charlie5thanks again guys ... mp3gain worked great :)08:19
imachinewell im sure its a matter oftime.08:19
Music^Houndvorbis quality 608:19
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imachineunless theyre trying to avoid cross pathing with ms08:19
Bazziand so on08:19
samuliBazzi, so rip them in different qualitys.08:19
Music^Houndcharlie5: an alternative to mp3gain is replaygain08:20
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samulior if you're pirating you shouldn't be complaining anyways :)08:20
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Bazzisamuli: so I have 5 mp3s of the same song on my harddisk :/08:20
Music^Houndlol samuli08:20
Bazzisamuli: if I was pirating, flac would be useless08:20
imachineis the only way08:20
imachine(if youre pirating)08:21
DaSkreechBazzi: You could be a classy pirate :)08:21
imachine(but thats not quite the place to discuss that is it )08:21
BazziDaSkreech: converting it from mp3 to flac? ;)08:21
imachinelets go to efnet ;)08:21
DaSkreechBazzi: heehee :)08:21
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imachine<3 efnet.08:21
samuliBazzi, and one flac is all you need? I don't get it.08:21
imachinenot that im a warezer of some sort08:21
DaSkreechAnyone have any ideas for a new default Kubuntu theme?08:21
imachinehe he he08:21
Bazzisamuli: flac is the most lazy choice for me :)08:21
imachineDaSkreech, hmm08:22
imachineDaSkreech, the bootup menu logo sort of is nice.08:22
Music^HoundBazzi: how so ?08:22
imachinethe one you can choose, it could be the default.08:22
imachinei mean in kde.08:22
imachinethe starting thing.08:22
DaSkreechWhich one?08:22
imachinebrowse through them.08:22
imachineim on arch now.08:22
imachinei dont know.08:22
samuliI use flacs frequently myself, but still people telling how mp3's are bad quality always cracks me up.08:22
BazziMusic^Hound: a little shellscript batchconverting the stuff I need, copy, done08:22
BazziMusic^Hound: without *ever* having to even think about quality settings and stuff08:23
Bazzisamuli: it's not bad quality, it's not having the risk about ever having bad quality08:23
imachineDaSkreech, 'moodin'08:23
DaSkreechimachine: Do you mean inbetween you logging in and KDE starting up?08:23
imachine;] 08:23
DaSkreechOh Yeah :) I have that installed now I forgot it wasn't the default08:24
Music^HoundBazzi: try using vorbis quality 6 and see if you can see a difference08:24
DaSkreech It's purty on XGL :)08:24
Music^HoundI want to try out XGL08:24
BazziMusic^Hound: vorbis is a no-go since my cell cannot play that08:24
Music^HoundAAC ?08:24
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DaSkreechCorrect me if I'm wrong but the .ogg people are behind the FLAC codec?08:24
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Music^HoundDaSkreech: pretty much08:24
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DaSkreechBazzi: Write many angry letters to them08:25
Bazziand until I get my new soundcard there won't be much of a difference here anyways08:25
DaSkreechBazzi: Follw them up with sane letters explaining the clear benefits of ,ogg :)08:25
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Music^Houndhey DaSkreech how hard is it to get XGL on kubuntu ?08:25
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems08:25
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DaSkreechFollow the tinyurl link08:25
ubuntugatekeeper: using instaler found on desktop :)08:25
BazziDaSkreech: honestly I don't really have the time or motivation to do that08:26
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Bazziit's like.... SONY!08:26
DaSkreechBazzi: Give me a name I'll do it :008:26
Music^HoundDaSkreech: how stable is it ?08:26
gatekeeperubuntu: do a manual partition, and there is an option to create / remove partition table in there08:27
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BazziDaSkreech: my next cell will have symbian os... :)08:27
DaSkreechhi nikkiana!!08:28
gatekeeperBazzi: got a nokia using symbian OS :-)08:28
Bazziuuuh I don't like nokia :(08:28
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DaSkreechMusic^Hound: Just enough to use and not enough to be user friendly08:29
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gatekeepercatch you latter folks08:29
charlie5Music^Hound: thanks, i'll have a look ... i'm kinda surprised amorok doesn't do this for a playlist on the fly ... or maybe that would take too long08:30
DaSkreechcharlie5: Submit a patch :)08:30
charlie5lol ... fat chance :)08:31
h3sp4wnBazzi: Why not have a cell running linux ?08:31
imachineh3sp4wn, that would be cool.08:32
imachine*nix on a cell.08:32
imachineisnt the nokia n70 supporting that ?08:32
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: There is a lot of work on getting that working08:32
Bazzih3sp4wn, I wouldn't see the point ;)08:32
DaSkreech Nokia is pumping money into having that work08:32
imachineyeah nokia rocks.08:32
BazziI'd rather have an OS designed for that08:32
imachinecheers for that.08:32
imachineBazzi, man, UNIX!.08:32
imachinedude, imaghine, walking around with friends.08:32
imachinehey dude i need a shell box.08:32
imachinereally?> no problem what account do you want.08:32
imachineclick click.08:33
imachinehere you go.08:33
imachineits gprs so it can be a bit laggy tho.08:33
h3sp4wnDaSkreech: I am not bothered all I want is the most portable ssh terminal I can get - I hate cell phones as it is08:33
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imachinebut enjoy08:33
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charlie5night folks :)08:33
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imachinecharlie5_zzz, bah you dont reply to ctcp time08:34
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charlie5_zzzlol ... i havn't looked into konversation settings ... just using derfaults ... but its 4:20 am here :) ... danged sleep patterns all stuffed up by world cup soccer ;)08:35
ubuntuwhich program is THE best for fixing HDD errors?08:35
DaSkreechGo Italy!!08:36
willvarfarhmm do videos play in kubuntu, or do I have to install stuff?08:36
imachineDaSkreech, go france!08:36
imachine;] 08:36
DaSkreechI would say a new hard drive :)08:36
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ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP08:36
charlie5_zzzI'm with imachine (or was) ... poor aussie socceroo's got beat by Italy in the *worst* possible way08:37
SpAwNwillvarfar: yes videos play but u DO need to install stuff type "!restricted" in this room08:37
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:37
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ubotuI know nothing about alias08:38
willvarfarthx SpAwN; I'll see what kind of pages they are; previously I've tried installing totem and things, but nothing seems to work08:38
DaSkreechwillvarfar: That's really up to you :)08:39
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SpAwNwillvarfar: well just follow this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats ...that WILL make the videos work'08:39
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ChefWilldoes anyone know where aliases are saved?08:40
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CntryboyI'm trying to connect on xchat and I keep getting Closing Link: (Bad user info) what does this mean? on konversation at the moment08:47
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ChefWillit means your user infos bad08:47
Cntryboywhat is user info? lol ive never had a prob b408:48
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Cntryboyonly thing in user info is my nick name ?08:49
ChefWillthen theres your problem08:49
ChefWillyou gotta fill in the rest08:49
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Cntryboythe rest is filled out08:50
Cntryboybut im stating besides nickname and user/real name thats it08:50
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ChefWilldunno, use konversation - its better anyways08:51
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Cntryboynot script wise it's not08:51
Cntryboythx anyways cya08:51
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ChefWillbet you he didnt have it all filled out and he just realzied it08:52
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sebastianhummmmmmm and the victum me get's booted out of the Ubuntu channel again,  because of stupid reasons08:52
h3sp4wnScript wise ? konversation you can just execute any bash script with /exec blah08:52
sebastianand banned again08:52
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ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration08:54
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Shizboomanyone ever made a panel applet before?08:59
z00manyone around ?09:00
mossmanHi z00m09:00
z00mi wanted to change the theme on kubuntu with some of the http://www.kde-look.org themes09:00
vem0myea? whats up?09:00
z00mdo i need to install aa theme manager ?09:01
vem0mno its there09:01
mossmanYou have to download themes,  then use theme mangaer09:01
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z00mis that built into kubuntu or do i need to install it ?09:01
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DaSkreechCheck System settings09:01
day_hi everybody, anybody having a working xorg.conf for kubuntu on macbook 13'' 1280x800 ?09:01
vem0mgoto K menu > Run Command and type kcontrol09:01
vem0mthen in apperance goto themes09:02
vem0mafter u install one that is how u activate it and customize it09:02
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z00mah great, thanks ;)09:02
mossmanDoes the macbook use ATI radeon chipset?09:02
vem0mnp :)09:02
z00mwhy didnt i know that ... lol09:02
day_intel i81009:03
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vem0mit took me a bit to find it lol as its not in the regular system setting place along with alot of them options09:03
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vem0mmight make a icon or shortcut in ur k menu for the KDE control center09:04
vem0mi did as i use it alot09:04
mossmando you have x working at the moment?  or ate you using a termnal09:04
day_the chipset use the i810 intel drivers, and generally needs some tweaking of the bios to use widescreens :-(, which doesn"t exist on macbook09:05
day_i use x at 1024x76809:05
day_fuzzy vision :-)09:05
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day_it is a default mode ; the error message of xorg.log is : (WW) I810(0): config file hsync range 45.7143-50.5263kHz not within DDC hsync ranges.09:07
DaSkreechz00m: You can searh for theme in the System Settings09:07
mossmanYou should be able to put a line in /etc/x11/xorg.config that will use 1280 X 800 or  Whatever resolution it uses09:07
day_and :(II) I810(0): Not using mode "1280x800" (no mode of this name)09:07
h3sp4wnmake a suitable modeline09:08
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day_and then : (**) I810(0):  Built-in mode "1024x768"09:08
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day_is a modeline useful for a lcd display ?09:09
mossmanin the file /etc/x11/xorg.config is there a line that shows the different resolutions  ex  "16bbp 1280 x 800"09:09
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mossmanthere should be quite a few lines with the different modes x uses.  There is an option for a default mode.  Make the 1280 X800 24   bit default.  Then restart x09:11
day_well, currently there is only one mode, for each depth : 1280x80009:11
day_the defalt depth is already 1280x800, 24bits09:12
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DaSkreechnikkiana: how are you?09:12
mossmanThat's Strange.  What driver is x using?09:12
day_but it isn't taken by the x server, which relies on the default built-in server mode of 1024x76809:12
Cntryboyday_: why not reconfigure x, and choose everything from a gui interface09:13
day_i810, i've tried with vesa too09:13
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h3sp4wnday_: You need a custom modeline09:13
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:13
day_h3sp4wn : why not, but is a custom modeline important for a lcd display ?09:13
h3sp4wnday_: That fixvideoresolution has a specfic bit for intel graphics09:14
day_Cntryboy : which gui interface do you advertise ? the one of kubuntu (kde i think), isn't proposing 1280x80009:14
day_h3sp1wn : sorry i didn't see tthat09:15
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day_yes i may be the right solution :-)09:16
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day_thanks a lot mossman, h3sp4wn, ubotu, Cntryboy, i'm going to try it now :-)09:17
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage09:17
sebsebsebhe is a bot09:17
sebsebsebso you carn't realy thank him09:17
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ChefWillkopete vs gaim? comments? :-X09:23
sebsebsebkopete sucks09:24
sebsebsebit seems09:24
sebsebsebcompared to Gaim09:24
sebsebsebI was  on it yesterday09:24
ChefWillit has some nice features09:24
sebsebseblogged into MSN account09:24
sebsebseband well09:24
sebsebsebI didn't want it to remember my contact list or anything09:24
ChefWilli like the message queue system it has09:24
sebsebseb,but it did09:24
sebsebseband I was also like09:24
ChefWilland the ability to skin the way conversations appear09:24
sebsebsebhow da hell do I connect to my account again?09:24
sebsebsebGaim is a good program except it has some silly bugs here and there09:25
ChefWillim running gaim now but i think im going to give kopete a chance09:25
ChefWilli dont know why you cant add your ownself on kopete09:25
sebsebsebsure and you could give AMSN,  KMESS,  LICQ, etc a chance whilst your at it09:25
ChefWilli only use aim09:26
sebsebsebAMSN,  and KMESS by the way are not as nice as the real MSN messenger09:26
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ChefWilleh, i only use aim09:27
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Cntryboyanyone know of a super great script for xchat, that does a ton of stuff?09:29
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h3sp4wnWhy xchat ? konversation can run any bash script with /exec blah09:29
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ChefWillkonversation has scripts built in09:30
Cntryboywhy not?09:30
ChefWillmedia player/sys info / etc09:30
Shizboomanyone ever make an applet for the panel?09:30
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Cntryboychefwill: but does it have sys info when someone version you?09:30
DaSkreechChefWill: I have hell getting Kopete connecting to AIM but apparently that's just me09:30
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ChefWillno, this is not mirc09:31
ChefWillworks fine for me DaSkreech09:31
h3sp4wnhow do you do that then ? the is listening to thing09:31
ChefWillits built into konversation09:31
sebsebsebI think they typed it?09:31
DaSkreechChefWill: As I said it's apparently just me09:31
sebsebsebmaybe not09:31
Cntryboychefwill: does it have system specs for ppl who version you?09:31
DaSkreechIt connects on average twice a month09:31
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h3sp4wnChefWill: What do you type ?09:31
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DaSkreechAssuming that you are playing something :)09:32
h3sp4wnI am but it doesn't seem to be working09:32
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coachJanyone here have a Gmail account??09:33
Cntryboychefwill: are you reading what i've asked you 3 times lol09:33
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: What are you playing it in?09:33
ChefWilli already answered you09:33
ChefWillask in #konversation h3sp4wn09:33
Music^Houndwell that was easy to do DaSkreech09:33
ChefWilli might be forgetting something09:33
Music^HoundI got XGL working09:33
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sebsebsebdid you how?09:33
sebsebsebI tryed on a Intel hardware lap top09:34
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sebsebsebdidn't work09:34
ubuntu /join #freebasic.de09:34
sebsebsebfollowed this page on Ubuntu site09:34
Music^Houndmay not be supported on the intel chipset09:34
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Cntryboychefwill: what did you say?09:34
DaSkreechMusic^Hound: Sweet eh :)09:34
Cntryboy2.1KB i get scrolls of lag.09:34
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Cntryboychefwill: you don't even know what you said?09:34
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: Wait I think you have to turn it on in Amarok09:34
Music^HoundDaSkreech: how do you make it look like a cube ?09:34
ChefWillwow you are going on ignore09:34
Cntryboydoes anyone know if konversation scripts have one that will display system specs when someone versions you?09:35
Music^HoundSysinfo for 'patrick-desktop': Linux 2.6.15-25-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2000+ at 1673 MHz (3349 bogomips), , RAM: 468/503MB, 90 proc's, 26.38min up09:35
Music^Houndlike that ?09:35
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Cntryboywell sorta, that will work if u didn't have to paste it in the channel09:35
Cntryboylet me hop over to konversation brb09:36
DaSkreechMusic^Hound: Not sure. Ctrl+F2?09:36
h3sp4wnCPU[AMD Athlon XP 2600+ clocked at 1913.207 Mhz]   Kernel[Linux i686]   Up[-11:16-]   Mem[-989.445/1003.56MB-]   HDD[-121GB(17%used)-]   Procs[-118-]   Client[Konversation 0.19] 09:36
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h3sp4wnThat is infobash -seems to work pretty well09:36
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Cntryboyokay back09:37
Cntryboyso what was that command you used to show that system spec09:37
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Cntryboygrr i think he left09:37
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: try /exec media09:38
h3sp4wnI have09:38
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bbwik heb hulp nodig09:39
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bbwis this dutch or english channel09:41
sebsebsebis there as Swedish channel?09:41
Hawkwindbbw: #Kubuntu-nl09:41
bbwK thanks09:41
Hawkwindsebsebseb: #Kubuntu-SE maybe ? Or -SW  whatever your country code is09:41
bbwjoin #kbunutu-nl09:41
ubotuI know nothing about sw09:42
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se09:42
sebsebseboh right cool there is :)09:42
sebsebsebI am not in Sweden :)  I know the language though09:42
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MasterEvil`LaptoWhat's dpkg command to fix screwed-up apt-get installs?09:44
coachJanyone have problems downloading files by left clicking a link in konqueror?09:45
MasterEvil`LaptoAdept froze while installing something09:45
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DaSkreechdpkg --configre -a09:46
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bbwHi can someone help me out09:48
__osh___bbw: dunno. ask your question.09:49
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bbwi want to activate my nvidia drivers09:49
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:49
bbwdunno how09:49
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:49
bbwK thanks09:49
GrundeeI am having serious problems with nvidia drivers. The nv driver does not work for me, so I use the drivers from the nvidia site. After recompiling my kernel, installing it, compiling the nvidia module, installing that, running nvidia-xconfig, and starting X; it does not work. The error I get is (EE) Failed to load the Nvidia kernel module. (EE) Screens found, but none have a usable configuration, Fatal server error: no screens foun09:49
Grundeed. What could the problem be? I know alot of people have trouble with these drivers.09:49
ubotuThe women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.09:49
fiyawerxGrundee: what card?09:50
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GrundeeGeforce 7800GT09:50
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sebsebseb!being bored09:53
ubotuI know nothing about being bored09:53
bbwDoes not work to enable nvidia configration sudo nvidia-glx-config enable09:53
fiyawerxGrundee: odd, i have a 6600gt that works fine, all i did was sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx, and then manually go through a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:54
fiyawerxand choose "nvidia" for the driver, not the "nv" worked for me09:54
Cntryboywhat is this folder for /home/user/.thumbnails09:54
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Grundeefiyawerx,  When I do that once x starts I get messed up lines and junk at the top of my screen, the rest is blank, and the system stops responding...09:56
GrundeeCntryboy, probably a folder for images used by some program.09:57
ChefWillanyone here upgrade their kernel to latest?09:58
bbwhow much is 128 MB in KB09:58
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gnomefreakChefWill: wrong channel09:58
gnomefreakChefWill: that is an unstable kernel09:58
ChefWillits stable09:58
gnomefreakChefWill: please join #ubuntu+109:58
vem0mmatter of opinion09:58
gnomefreakChefWill: its unstable09:59
Cntryboygrundee; is it okay to delete the files in this folder? is it like a temp?09:59
gnomefreakChefWill: it is  in testing in ubuntu as we speak09:59
h3sp4wnIf you build it yourself its considered stable i.e linus considers it stable09:59
DaSkreechCntryboy: They will probably get remade at some point09:59
DaSkreechCntryboy: But yes09:59
gnomefreaklatest stable ubuntu kernel is 2.6.15-25.4309:59
Cntryboydaskreech: what will remake them?09:59
DaSkreechCntryboy: Dunno open a few of them and see if they have any meaning to you10:00
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GrundeeCntryboy, It looks like they are small versions of pictures. When you have pictures in folders and you view the contents of the folder. It will display small images instead of large ones, which would take up too much room.10:00
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GrundeeThey are just cached in the folder so they do not need to be regenerated constantly.10:01
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GrundeeIt should be safe to delete them. If there are any in there that are used frequently, they will be regenerated.10:01
h3sp4wnChefWill: I have had 2.6.17 working on dapper but it needs a different udev - 2.6.16 works fine with dapper (and runs faster)10:01
digitalslackercould someone tell me where I turn off power saving in the xorg.conf file? Control Center replaces xorg.config and destroys the screen resolution entries when I turn it off there10:02
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Grundeebbw, 131,072 KiB I believe10:02
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CntryboyGrundee: anyway to tell it not to do this, it takes up more hd space10:03
GrundeeCntryboy, If it did not do that, it would take less hd space, but would take longer regenerating the pictures every time.10:04
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Music^HoundDaSkreech: try ctrl+alt and move your mouse to move the cube around on XGL10:05
Cntryboygrundee: thats fine I dont look at photos often10:05
Cntryboyjust digital pics from mnts10:06
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BCCDoes anyone know how to reduce the sensitivity of the cube?10:07
BCCIf I drag a window of the screen, the cube rotates about 180 ' :X10:07
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GrundeeHow stable is XGL looking now? Last time I tried it, it took me 17 hours to force it to compile from CVS, and pictures still didn't load right when I was done.  Definately worth it though...10:08
Music^Houndwell looks like you can't run glxgears on XGL10:08
h3sp4wn DaSkreech: Any idea how I enable /media then ?10:08
DaSkreechGrundee: It's a deb now :)10:08
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: Oh I thought that you had got that sorted :)10:08
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: It's in your command shortcuts?10:09
h3sp4wnDaSkreech: Yes10:09
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GrundeeHehe, nice. Not even going to try it until I get my drivers working though. And then I may even want to get some work done instead of messing around with this all day...10:09
Music^Houndh3sp4wn: you got amarok ?10:10
Cntryboygrundee: so how can I get it not to store files there?10:10
Music^Houndis it running and playing a song ?10:10
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fiyawerxGrundee: watch those 4 letter words please10:10
fiyawerxyou said w**k10:10
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Grundeefiyawerx, sorry. :-P10:11
h3sp4wnMusic^Hound: Yep10:11
Music^Houndtype /media10:11
GrundeeCntryboy, I seriously have no idea how to disable that. Is it causing problems for you? Why do you want to stop it?10:11
CntryboyI need all the space I can take, uploading dvds to my hd10:12
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: tell us if it throws an error10:12
CntryboyI also need to find other places that stores files for no reason so I can get that off 210:12
h3sp4wnI have already tried that a number of times - it just does nothing10:12
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DaSkreechCntryboy: Yeah.. with activites like that a new hard drive might be the way to go :)10:13
h3sp4wnI have enabled loads of stuff in script manager but it doesn't seem to help10:13
Music^Houndwhat version of konversation you using ?10:13
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: try /uptime10:13
h3sp4wnRandom Fortune: As usual, this being a 1.3.x release, I haven't even compiled this kernel yet. So if it works, you should be doubly impressed. -- Linus Torvalds, announcing kernel 1.3.310:13
h3sp4wnUptime: 11 hours and 53 minutes10:13
Music^HoundUptime: 1 hours and 4 minutes10:13
h3sp4wnAll the other ones work10:13
GrundeeI see... Just delete the contents of the folder for now. But it really probably is best to get a new hard drive if a few pictures in a folder are enough to prevent you from copying 4GB DVDs.10:13
DaSkreechSomething is not enabled :-(10:13
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Music^Houndmine worked out of the box10:14
Music^Hound"smb:///" is not a valid location.  hmmmm ?10:15
DaSkreechI think I had to turn somethign on10:15
h3sp4wnMusic^Hound: What do you have running in script manager in amarok ?10:15
Music^Houndit was working earlier10:15
Music^Houndnothing is running cept score default10:15
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Music^Houndseem to have lost my network connection to my windows pc10:17
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Music^Houndhmm wonder why its doing that10:17
RawSewagedoes smb:/  work10:18
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DaSkreechh3sp4wn: Did you ask in #konversation10:18
Music^Houndsays no file or folder RawSewage10:19
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h3sp4wnDaSkreech: No10:19
Grundeefiyawerx, I just tried that stuff you wrote before about nvidia-glx; it somehow magically worked...  Wow...10:19
RawSewageMusic^Hound, with one slash only?10:19
RawSewageI guess the other computers are offline10:19
Music^Houndno its on10:19
RawSewageis the other computer Windows or LInux10:19
Music^Houndit was working like 2 hours ago10:20
Music^Houndbrb let me try something10:20
fiyawerxGrundee: cool :)10:21
RawSewageSo... does Bogofilter just work better and better the longer you use it?10:21
eniac_petrovhi all10:21
RawSewageIt's almost like AI10:21
eniac_petrovI have problems wiht kubuntu10:21
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eniac_petrovwhy I can't install xine extra plugins?10:21
RawSewageok, do this10:22
Music^Houndhmm works in kde but not in gnome RawSewage10:22
RawSewagetype adept10:22
Grundeefiyawerx, Finally. Thanks. Time to get some w**k done. :-P10:22
fiyawerxGrundee: enjoy10:22
fiyawerxso does anyone know any nvidia instance where doing that _hasn't_ worked?10:22
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fiyawerxeveryone i've suggested it to has worked ok10:22
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:22
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RawSewageeniac_petrov, follow my instructions and youll get it working10:23
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RawSewagedid you open Adept10:23
DaSkreecheniac_petrov: Do you have Multiverse?10:23
fiyawerxaltho i've never had 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' work for me10:23
DaSkreechRawSewage: Alt+Space is so much nicer :)10:24
RawSewageI restart with a clean session10:24
RawSewageit doesnt start Katapult by default10:24
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RawSewagebtw, how do I select which programs start on startup?10:25
DaSkreechRawSewage: Ah :-( kuake and katapult are my left and right crutches10:25
ubotuI know nothing about autostart10:25
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DaSkreechSilly bot10:25
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RawSewageI'd use Kuake, but it doesnt let me configure my shortcuts, such as Ctrl+V for paste, Ctrl+C for copy, etc10:25
DaSkreechRawSewage: Continue helping eniac_petrov :)10:25
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:26
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eniac_petrovno, no problem10:26
RawSewageeniac_petrov,  follow this guide:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats10:26
eniac_petrovand sorry my enslish is bad :-)10:26
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RawSewageDaSkreech, what do I put in the AutoStart folder10:27
MasterEvil`Laptoanyone know a good tech support channel that would know about CRT monitors10:27
DaSkreechanything that is executable in that folder ges run on KDe start up10:28
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DaSkreechso just puta bash script that starts what you need to start10:28
DaSkreechMasterEvil`Lapto: Could try ##linux10:28
DaSkreechor #x.org :)10:28
MasterEvil`Laptoit's a monitor thing, not really linux related10:29
DaSkreechYeah but they would probaly have someone who knows10:29
HawkwindMasterEvil`Lapto: #Hardware ?10:29
DaSkreechTell Quiznos that DaSkreech says hi :)10:29
DaSkreechAh #hardware. Of course :)10:29
DaSkreechLike #networking10:30
DaSkreechYou just never think of it10:30
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DaSkreechor #ubuntu-libre10:30
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digitalslackerwhat file contains the config for power saving? I don't want my monitor to turn off after half an hour10:30
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RawSewagethat movie hasnt even come out yet, and it already has cult status10:31
DaSkreechWooCtrl+H Ctrl+H00t!10:31
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DaSkreechh3sp4wn: What was the red pill?10:33
h3sp4wnDaSkreech: Using a different script10:33
DaSkreechWhich script?10:33
h3sp4wnOne called media2 that I found that is an alternate implimentation of it10:33
DaSkreechWhat was wrong with the first one?10:34
DaSkreechthere is a media one?10:34
h3sp4wnI don't know my konversation directory somehow has got messed up10:34
DaSkreechRawSewage: Cause it's MoFo Snakes on a MoFo Plane!!10:34
h3sp4wnthe first one was not working10:34
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z00mis there any advance logging system in linux ?10:39
z00msecurity wise10:39
eniac_petrovRawSewage , thanks for the link10:41
RawSewageeniac_petrov, did you get it working10:42
eniac_petrovno, but I'll try10:42
eniac_petrovI am tryning now..10:42
h3sp4wnz00m: Why do you need advanced ?10:45
arseniqi have a amd64 system and cant install flash player because of my architecture do you know a 64bit flash player?10:45
h3sp4wnz00m: For any logging system to be useful it has to be configured10:46
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z00mh3sp4wn: my box just went all funny started to run mega slow, thought someone might have been trying to DDos me or something10:47
h3sp4wnz00m: Could have been something running from anacron or something10:47
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eniac_petrovRawSewage , It works, thanks!10:53
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RawSewageeniac_petrov, cool10:53
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Music^HoundRawSewage: the smb problem got fixed :)10:57
Music^Houndyou need to isntall libgnomevfs2-extra to fix it10:57
duartehello all!10:58
duartei'm trying to configure my kubuntu installation with easyubunt but when i start the configuration process i get this error msg:10:59
eniac_petrovRawSewage , this don't works , but I'll write you tomorou, becouse now is 12:10 PM - for me10:59
duarteE: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse10:59
eniac_petrovbye! good night!10:59
duartecan someone helpme ?10:59
h3sp4wnduarte: Try #easyubuntu or I can tell you how to install anything you want manually11:00
duarteok.... thanks11:00
fiyawerxi had no luck with either easybuntu or automatix, i suggest learning it the "manual" way if you want to be able to fix things in case anything goes bad with them11:00
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duartei eanbled the universe repository but i dont' find gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse package... just find "ugly" package :(11:02
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MronoI'm having a problem booting kubuntu desktop 6.06 64-bit on a 64-bit machine11:04
gatekeeperduarte: that one is in multiverse11:04
MronoIt's got 2 HDD's11:04
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gatekeeperduarte: if you are using firefox there is a pacakage search engine installed as standard11:05
mossmanhello xplore11:06
xplorehi mossman my first time here11:06
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MronoThe machine hangs on the first item after boot selection11:06
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xplorejust tried this prog and it works fine11:06
xploreimaybe you can help me?11:07
mossmanwhich program?  Konversation?11:07
mossmanI can try11:07
xplorei tried the dual monitor mode under kubuntu 6(sorry if my english is bad)...11:07
xplorebut i have to use a agp card and a pci card11:08
mossmandual monitor.  OK.  that should be no problem11:08
mossmanwhat exactly happens when x starts?11:09
xplorethe pci monitor works with low resolution and the agp monitor stays black11:09
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mossmanok.  Are you new to Linux,  or just new to kubuntu11:11
benkong2I got a fresh install of ubuntu/kubuntu and this is an error message on nm-applet http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1771011:11
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weedarHi! I am booting from the Kubuntu CD - will I be able to burn a DVD from the same drive or is linux dependant on the CD being in the drive_11:16
DaSkreechIt's dependent11:16
h3sp4wnYou won't (unless you have 2 drives)11:16
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: where are the scripts for konversation?11:16
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weedarok, thanks for clarifying it DaSkreech and h3sp4wn11:18
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DaSkreech Sure11:18
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DaSkreechSweet I got Libcairo2 installed!11:19
RawSewagedid that keep breaking11:20
h3sp4wnDaSkreech: I only have that alternative /media one and infobash11:20
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: Where do you see that?11:20
weedarMy main problem is really that when booting from my harddrive linux halts at "loading hardware"11:21
weedarI'm afraid my harddrive is dying :(11:21
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RawSewageDoes Konqueror have a way of reloading pages at set intervals11:22
z00mis there any good space shooter games on linux ?11:23
koshRawSewage: yes it does11:23
z00mside scrollers11:23
koshRawSewage: settings -> configure extensions -> tools -> auto refresh plugin11:24
koshRawSewage: then you can use the tools menu and set the refresh for that page11:24
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RawSewageah cool ty11:24
koshthere are lots of tools and they used to be all on by default11:25
gatekeeperz00m: gnash any good or another dead end?11:25
koshbut someone decided that made things too hard so they are all turned off by default now11:25
RawSewageI know, I dont liek that11:25
RawSewageI restored all the Konqueror options11:25
koshsame here11:25
RawSewagelike config for individual folders, etc11:25
koshhowever there where lots of complaints about how it is just too hard since it has so many options11:26
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RawSewagelol @ Windows users11:26
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kosheveryone has an idea of what options they need to get work done and any option beyond that most see as being unecessary11:26
koshhowever everyone has a different set they work with11:26
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koshRawSewage: actually most of the criticism comes from mac and gnome users11:27
koshRawSewage: windows users and used to having lots of options11:27
z00mgatekeeper: no its still not working, i was getting errors when trying to ./configure so i thought sod it11:27
gatekeeperz00m: damn11:28
MasterEvilAceanyone use XVNCVIEWER?11:28
gatekeeperz00m: you have build-essentials installed?11:28
richardh_Hi...I'm on Kubuntu dapper, and my cdrom/dvd drive doesn't show...is this a bug?11:28
DaSkreechz00m: try Chromium11:28
DaSkreech_richard: Maybe :)11:29
gatekeeperrichardh_: will only show when you put a CD or DVD in and not then11:29
Mronoanyone using kubuntu 6.06 desktop 64-bit11:29
Mronocd edition11:29
DaSkreechrichardh_: Maybe :-)11:30
gatekeeperrichardh_: and not always then (ooops)11:30
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z00mgatekeeper: you know what i dont think i did have it installed when i was trying to configure, but i think its a standalone app, im not sure if it will work with my browsers or not :/11:31
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z00mDaSkreech: yes i have played that game is there any more that you know off11:31
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MronoWhen I try to boot from it it hangs on the firstitem past the boot selection11:31
richardh_gatekeeper: thanks, but I'm aware of that..no, there's no actual /dev/cdrom and when trying to burn with K3b, it doesn't find any devices...11:31
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ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php11:32
DaSkreech!tell z00m about games11:32
DaSkreechMrono: Root File system?11:33
gatekeeperz00m: build-essentials I think has a lot of the source code you need to build other application from source ./configure will winge at you for extra bits and pieces but you be able to get a reasonable way11:33
DaSkreechgatekeeper: Tell him about build-dep11:33
gatekeeperdependencies ?11:34
DaSkreechrichardh_: Can You go to System settings and tell me if you see your CDrom in the Disks and File systems Settigns?11:34
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DaSkreechMrono: Hmm this is from a Live CD?11:34
Mronothe live/install cd11:35
DaSkreechThis is after the Boot menu right?11:36
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Mronoit worked once, then when I tried to install to HDD it froze while trying to install11:36
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DaSkreechOK there should be a CD check11:36
DaSkreechHmm not that then11:36
Mronodid it11:36
DaSkreechHi AndyGee11:36
AndyGeemy installer keeps crashing why is that?11:36
DaSkreechMrono: ?11:36
DaSkreechAndyGee: Same place?11:36
AndyGeehi daskreech11:37
AndyGeeyeah at the bootloader11:37
MronoI did the check the cd for errors11:37
gatekeeperAndyGee: my money is on a hardware problem11:37
richardh_daskreech: oh, thanks...yes, I can...it says something about beingdeactivated...went int sysadmin mode...tried to mount, tells me wrong filetype...should I change that in fstab?11:37
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AndyGeehardware prob cudnt be cuz it runs other ok11:38
gatekeeperAndyGee: I had a bad maxtor HDD with exactly the same problem, or it could be your iso or your CD11:38
coachJcan someone tell me what I have to do to get Kaudio to rip MP3s11:38
DaSkreechMrono: you have a OS on the Hard drive already?11:38
coachJgetting this error11:39
coachJThe selected encoder was not found.11:39
coachJThe wav file has been removed. Command was: lame --preset standard --tt 'Mystic Rhythms' --ta 'Rush' --tl 'R30 - Disc 2' --ty '2005' --tn '02' --tg 'Progressive Rock' '/tmp/kde-jeff/EYRxxa.wav' '/home/jeff/mp3/Rush/R30 - Disc 2/Rush - 02 - Mystic Rhythms.mp3'11:39
gatekeeperAndyGee: have you asked the CD to do a self check?11:39
AndyGeei tryed ubuntu to install crashed at the same place as kubuntu11:39
MronoI swap HDD11:39
AndyGeeyeah gatekeep11:39
DaSkreechrichardh_: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab file?11:39
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gatekeeperDaSkreech: wounder if z00m is off for another try :-)11:41
AndyGeei havent a clue wots doing it :(11:41
DaSkreechcoachJ: Just use Konqueror11:41
omeowWhen will the changes I made in /etc/udev/rules.d/* show up?11:41
omeowDo I have to restart udev for that? (I did and I still don't see the changes.)11:41
sysrplhas anyone had problems with apps and glibc *invalid pointer* causing crashes?11:41
AndyGeethese are original cds by the way11:41
sysrpli think ubuntu's glibc is borked11:42
AndyGeei had a copy of knoatix or sumthing installed11:42
coachJcan someone tell me how to get Kaudio to rip to mp3??11:42
gatekeeperAndyGee: you can ask the CD to do a self check when you boot it up to make sure it's ok one of the options11:42
AndyGeethat i downloaded11:42
DaSkreechcoachJ: Have you tried Konqueror?11:42
AndyGeeyeah its ok gatekeeper i done that11:42
coachJill try11:42
DaSkreechMrono: You swap them?11:42
arseniqis there a shortcut key combination for minimizing all open windows in kde?11:42
AndyGeeill try unbuntu again11:43
DaSkreecharseniq: Alt+Ctrl+D11:43
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cox377that command isnt exactly ergonomical11:43
arseniqDaSkreech: ah yes thanks :)11:43
coachJhow do I use Konq to rip?11:43
gatekeeperAndyGee: try a manual partition, remove what is there re-partition and try again, if that fails try badblocks on your HDD11:43
DaSkreechcoachJ: You have the CD in the tray?11:43
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DaSkreechopen Konqueror and type audiocd:/ in the bar11:44
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arseniqalso what is the shortcut for run command?11:45
arseniqi tried alt ctrl r :)11:45
AndyGeei just found the crash report11:45
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:45
coachJrun command11:45
arseniqDaSkreech: thanks! :)11:45
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DaSkreecharseniq: I like Alt+Space though :)11:46
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gatekeeperAndyGee: test your HDD is ok11:47
AndyGeehow do i do that?11:47
coachJDaSkreech-alt+f2 brings up the run diag box11:47
DaSkreechRight to run command11:47
gatekeeperz00m: welcome back :-)11:47
z00mgatekeeper: thanks11:47
bluesceadaalt space is for the katapult, right11:47
coachJwhats the command?11:47
DaSkreechcoachJ: You tried audiocd:/11:47
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z00mgatekeeper: is there any place i can post up a screen shot11:47
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LjLz00m: the pastebin11:48
coachJgot a screen with the cd contents11:48
gatekeeper!pastbin > z00m:11:48
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:48
AndyGeegatekeeper how do i check my hdd11:48
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gatekeeperz00m: use pastebin11:48
arseniqDaSkreech: waw katapult is better really :)11:48
z00mi was messing with my themes and now i got this blue colour on my server list in IRC client, i just wanted to know where i can change it back11:49
sysrplif i installed a set of tools built from the source using "./configure --profile=/usr; make; sudo make install" ... how would i then later remove all these tools?11:49
DaSkreechcoachJ: And a set of folders?11:49
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DaSkreechMP3? Ogg? Wav?11:49
fiyawerxsysrpl: you should be able to sudo make uninstall i think it is11:49
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sysrplfiyawerx: i'll try that11:50
gatekeepersysrpl: I think you should checkinstall11:50
sysrplfiyawerx: i'll try thanks11:50
sysrpli used checkinstall before11:50
sysrplbut checkinstall failed on one package11:50
z00mgatekeeper: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1771611:50
DaSkreechcoachJ: ok Just copy that folder to your hard drive and you will rip the CD in the format shown11:51
sysrpli've installed like four times using various setups11:51
sysrplthis is just the first time i hadn't used checkinstall11:51
z00mi want to get rid of the nasty dark blue on the server list, not good for my eyes11:51
sysrplhence why i was asking how to remove this time11:51
coachJyou mean copy the songs to the folder with the format I want to rip to?11:51
h3sp4wnDon't use checkinstall if you can help it11:51
sysrplh3sp4n: why not?11:52
h3sp4wnDoesn't handle dependancies properly or changing any files that are already in use11:52
gatekeeperz00m: I am probable not the one to ask, is the highlight colour nackered?11:52
LjLdon't use checkinstall *if there is an Ubuntu deb package available*. otherwise, it's probably the best option11:52
DaSkreechcoachJ: No Just copy the folder named MP311:52
DaSkreechoff the CD11:52
sysrplso you would just reccomend sudo make install?11:52
LjLsysrpl: i wouldn't.11:53
h3sp4wnLjL: I would say using apt-get -b source with debian sid / or experimental deb-src repos is better than checkinstall11:53
sysrplokay, so what techinque then?11:53
z00myes its dark blue, it was not like that till i messed with themes now i put the theme back to default and its still there11:53
coachJok, does that mean there are already mp3s on the CD???11:53
sysrpli'm getting conflicting advice11:53
LjLh3sp4wn: possibly.11:53
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ubotucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall11:53
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)11:54
LjLthat's mostly all i have to say.11:54
gatekeeperz00m: to be honest I don't know the answer to this one may be one of the others might?11:54
sysrplh3sp4wn: well the sources i am making from are not on any deb repositories11:54
LjLif you can avoid compiling, do. if you have to, install with checkinstall. though h3sp4wn is probably right about debian experimental packages, but that's a bit of a borderline case11:54
h3sp4wnsysrpl: What are you making ?11:54
sysrplall the different mono tools11:55
ubotupbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto11:55
sysrplwith the latest stable stuff11:55
DaSkreechcoachJ: How is it going?11:55
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coachJdaskreech--I understand what to do now, but are those files on the CD11:55
z00mgatekeeper: ok no worries11:55
h3sp4wnsysrpl: I would learn how to use pbuilder (may as well do stuff properly right ?)11:55
coachJor are just what will be riped?11:56
sysrplh3sp4wn: breifly, what's pbuilder?11:56
DaSkreechcoachJ: They are what will be ripped. Pretty cool huh? :)11:56
sysrplanyhow, the problem i think is with ubuntu's own libraries, which is why i keep rebuilding11:56
h3sp4wnsysrpl: (one way of) building deb's properly11:56
z00mdoes anyone else know how i can get the dark blue colour from my server list in irc client i think its something in the themes settings http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i1771611:56
coachJvery cool thks11:56
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DaSkreechSure :)11:57
coachJits ripping11:57
DaSkreechI recommend Ogg :)11:57
coachJwill an Ipod play?11:57
sysrplthis bug is affeect the monodoc program and it's gnome kthmlsourceview control ... crashing at glibc free with an invalid pointer on me everytime -> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/freewheeling/+bug/2856011:58
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arseniqhow should i edit my config files? sudo kedit in alt+f2 didnt work11:58
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coachJDaSkreech will ogg play in an Ipod?11:58
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sysrplso i am going to try and removing everything again and install only from the ubuntu mono packages and not the source11:58
sysrplto see if the error goes away11:59
gatekeeperLjL: where is the best place to put source code you download when you want to compile & build /usr/src ?11:59
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LjLgatekeeper: i usually just put the *source* code in my home, but i guess /usr/local/src/program-version11:59
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DaSkreechcoachJ: Nope!12:00
senseiI keep my sources in /l33twarez12:00
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coachJkeeps stalling12:00
senseiI see no point in adding extra dirs in the path..12:00
DaSkreechcoachJ: You should write to them about that12:00
gatekeeperLjL: thanx :-)12:00
DaSkreechcoachJ: As long as it picks back up12:00
coachJi will right them12:02
DaSkreechcoachJ: It's stalled at 0%?12:03
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coachJstill stalled12:04
DaSkreechcoachJ: try Ogg12:04
DaSkreechI'm thinking that you don't have lame installed12:04
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Music^Houndlibmad0 is what he needs12:05
DaSkreechI have to go though12:06
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coachJanyone pick up for him12:06
DaSkreechMusic^Hound: to rip?12:06
coachJogg now working12:06
DaSkreechah check if you have lame installed12:07
DaSkreechI'm off!12:07
coachJif not get from ADEPT12:07
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