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| linuxmonkey | wassup guys | 02:09 |
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| jsgotangco | hey | 02:13 |
| linuxmonkey | wassup | 02:13 |
| === linuxmonkey is editing some pages on the wiki :) | ||
| linuxmonkey | well on h.u.c. wiki...lol | 02:15 |
| jsgotangco | nice | 02:17 |
| linuxmonkey | any know how to put a webaddress but not make it show up as a link? | 02:24 |
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| linuxmonkey | woot woot edited the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu to reflect the new Canonical Commercial Repositories :) | 02:58 |
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| nixternal | linuxmonkey: is it possible for you to do the same thing for the /Ubuntu subpage? | 03:34 |
| linuxmonkey | i dont have ubuntu installed at the moment to be able to take the screenshots | 03:34 |
| === linuxmonkey needs more systems | ||
| linuxmonkey | im willing to do it if ya can get me screenshots nixternal | 03:35 |
| nixternal | vmware server | 03:35 |
| linuxmonkey | oh thats right | 03:36 |
| nixternal | thats how i do it | 03:36 |
| linuxmonkey | i got to install that, I actually have a vmware licence :) | 03:36 |
| nixternal | i have Ubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu all in Dapper, as well as all of them in Edgy..although the Edgy ones are all pretty much broken right now | 03:36 |
| === linuxmonkey got it while in school | ||
| nixternal | vmware server == free | 03:36 |
| linuxmonkey | since when? | 03:37 |
| nixternal | server has always been free...it is the other things that aren't | 03:37 |
| linuxmonkey | whats the diff | 03:37 |
| nixternal | imbrandon explained it to me one night | 03:37 |
| nixternal | i can't remember exactly | 03:37 |
| linuxmonkey | were is he anyways | 03:38 |
| linuxmonkey | lol | 03:38 |
| nixternal | taking a break i guess | 03:41 |
| nixternal | i think it is an irc break so he can work on code..i hope it is at least | 03:42 |
| linuxmonkey | lol probably | 03:47 |
| linuxmonkey | he's been busy with konversation | 03:47 |
| nixternal | which is horrible | 03:50 |
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| jsgotangco | the free vmware server is a rolling beta if i remember right | 04:33 |
| jsgotangco | its a free, unlimited use binary though | 04:33 |
| robotgeek | too bad parallels for mac is not free | 04:52 |
| robotgeek | i wonder if there is a product like vmware for macs | 04:54 |
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| smitten | mdke: around? | 05:12 |
| jsgotangco | sleeping at his time | 05:20 |
| robotgeek | you can ask jsgotangco too :) | 05:20 |
| theCore | robotgeek: I think there's a vmware version for the macs, but I'm really not sure | 05:35 |
| robotgeek | theCore: nevermind, i am installing kubuntu now. no edgy testing for powerpc :( | 05:36 |
| theCore | robotgeek: edgy testing? I don't think there's anything new for the moment | 05:37 |
| robotgeek | theCore: yeah, but in time... | 05:37 |
| nixternal | jsgotangco: can you link me to the anthrolopology information for Ubuntu? | 05:44 |
| nixternal | i got it jsgotangco, forgot his name was Andreas | 05:46 |
| jsgotangco | =) | 05:46 |
| robotgeek | Andreas Lyod | 05:46 |
| === jsgotangco was reading Ralph sorry | ||
| robotgeek | or Lyold, maybe? | 05:46 |
| nixternal | how about Lloyd | 05:47 |
| nixternal | ;) | 05:47 |
| === jsgotangco grins | ||
| nixternal | haha | 05:47 |
| nixternal | who is the ubuntu-list mailman? my daughter doesn't look like me | 05:48 |
| robotgeek | lol. i knew i was there | 05:48 |
| nixternal | haha | 05:48 |
| nixternal | im going to hang myself, as i keep emailing the person responsible, but he doesn't email me back | 05:49 |
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| === bhuvan just received the dapper CDs with stickers! | ||
| nixternal | grrr | 07:39 |
| nixternal | im going to beat up the mailman tomorrow if mine don't come now ;) | 07:39 |
| jsgotangco | what are you doing? | 07:40 |
| bhuvan | one question in ubuntu installation: how do we install dapper using cursor/text mode (instead of default gui) | 07:41 |
| OHPhoneGuy | bhuvan: Use the Alternative Install CD-Rom | 07:42 |
| bhuvan | OHPhoneGuy: how do i locate that Cd. All Cds (total: 5) seem to be the same | 07:43 |
| nixternal | jsgotangco: http://home.comcast.net/~nixternal/images/misc/poster/poster1.png <- first draft for a poster | 07:44 |
| OHPhoneGuy | bhuvan: I've not seen the Dapper CD's, so I don't know how to physically tell you that "that one" is the Alternative CD...however, if I remember the Breezy CD's, they were marked. | 07:44 |
| jsgotangco | bhuvan: alternate cd | 07:44 |
| jsgotangco | wow it feels like a movie poster! | 07:45 |
| nixternal | hehe | 07:45 |
| nixternal | the "taste of ubuntu" | 07:45 |
| nixternal | fitting, since the taste of chicago just ended | 07:45 |
| bhuvan | jsgotangco: oh ok | 07:53 |
| bhuvan | OHPhoneGuy: thank you! | 07:53 |
| jsgotangco | the cds being shipped are gui-install only | 07:54 |
| jsgotangco | you have to download alternate | 07:54 |
| bhuvan | jsgotangco: ok | 07:54 |
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| mdke | morning | 09:01 |
| Madpilot | hi mdke | 09:02 |
| jsgotangco | hello | 09:03 |
| Burgundavia | hi mdke, jsgotangco | 09:04 |
| jsgotangco | hi! | 09:04 |
| mvirkkil | jsgotangco: Did you take a look at the docbook -> moinmoin xslt:s? | 09:12 |
| jsgotangco | i sure do have this in my machine but havent tested yet | 09:13 |
| jsgotangco | will do in a few minutes sorry | 09:14 |
| mvirkkil | jsgotangco: No problem. | 09:17 |
| mvirkkil | jsgotangco: I could upload a newer version. No major changes, just a few tweaks. | 09:17 |
| mvirkkil | jsgotangco: And rudimentary support for images. | 09:18 |
| mvirkkil | jsgotangco: crap. No I can't. It's on my machine at home, which seems to have changed IP addresses, so I can't log in :/ | 09:19 |
| Burgundavia | night all | 09:23 |
| Madpilot | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GenBunToo <-- very strange... | 09:23 |
| mvirkkil | fixed, and uploaded: http://users.tkk.fi/~mvirkkil/db2mm/ | 09:27 |
| mvirkkil | jsgotangco: --^ | 09:27 |
| jsgotangco | what's a2m-desc.xml? | 09:35 |
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| mvirkkil | jsgotangco: hmm.. cruft. | 09:37 |
| mvirkkil | jsgotangco: it was an old example docbook | 09:38 |
| mvirkkil | jsgotangco: https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk/teamstuff/article2moin/a2m-desc.xml | 09:38 |
| mvirkkil | jsgotangco: Just doing "xsltproc db2mm.xslt yourdocbook.xml" should work | 09:38 |
| jsgotangco | ah wait a bit let me check my repo | 09:38 |
| mvirkkil | but yourdocbook.xml can't be a book or a part. The root element needs to be one of the following: article chapter colophon appendix glossary | 09:42 |
| jsgotangco | ahh | 09:43 |
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| mdke | mvirkkil: it doesn't work for books yet? | 10:20 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: No. Not yet. | 10:57 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: It can only handle docbook->moinmoin when the result is going to be one moinmoin page, ie article, chapter etc. | 10:57 |
| mdke | mvirkkil: ok, gotcha. do you plan to work on books too? | 11:04 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: Yes, of course :) | 11:04 |
| mdke | awesome | 11:05 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: I'm just taking a similar route I did when I went from moin->docbook: first supoprting only 1to1 conversion, and later doing it for "collections". | 11:05 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: Unfortunately my this week is booked pretty solid, so chunkin a docbook-book in to multiple parts like chapters etc, is going to have to wait till next week. | 11:06 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: But I'd really appreciate if people would test it on their stuff already, and let me know if they find bugs. | 11:07 |
| mvirkkil | I've also been thinking about how to support xrefs and other links. It's quite non-trivial. | 11:08 |
| mdke | yes | 11:08 |
| mdke | presumably it involves the anchor macro, right? | 11:09 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: Possibly. But a macro wouldn't work for linkin to headings, since headings aren't parsed. | 11:10 |
| mdke | how does the table of contents macro link to headings? | 11:11 |
| mdke | mvirkkil: ok, here is the result of your xslt on the about-ubuntu document: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MatthewEast/AboutUbuntu | 11:15 |
| mdke | looks good. | 11:15 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: Hmm.. bugs. | 11:15 |
| mdke | I'll make a list of things that aren't working | 11:15 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: The list is not a list, and I've managed to get → outputted as "→" instead of a "-->" | 11:16 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: You used xsltproc? | 11:16 |
| mdke | yes | 11:17 |
| mdke | the itemizedlist bug seems to be the most significant | 11:17 |
| mdke | interesting that the first one didn't work, and the second one did | 11:17 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: Weird, I think that used to work. I did some minor fixes, seems I broke that. | 11:17 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: Would you mind testing with the older 0.4 version? | 11:18 |
| mdke | ah, the first list is inside a <para>, the second one isn't. Is that the trouble? | 11:18 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: Might be :/ | 11:19 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: I'll need to check it out at home. I'd _love_ to have a smallish testcase :) | 11:19 |
| mdke | mvirkkil: bug is there with 0.4 too | 11:21 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: ok. | 11:22 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: Ahh.. Found the bug. | 11:23 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: I'm assuming that everything inside a <para>-tag _must b | 11:24 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: I'm assuming that everything inside a <para>-tag _must_ be formatted inline. | 11:24 |
| mdke | splendid | 11:27 |
| mdke | mvirkkil: i've listed the missing features/bugs on that wiki page | 11:27 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: Hmm.. Menuchoice support should work. And so should images. | 11:27 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: It seems your version of moinmoin doesn't support embedding html entities like → which works with newer versions of moin. | 11:28 |
| mdke | the broken menu-choice is what you mentioned earlier, in the last bullet point of the page | 11:28 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: Could you put up the xml file, so I can see how the images are used? | 11:29 |
| mdke | mvirkkil: the menuchoice looks like that in my 1.5 desktop moin too | 11:29 |
| mdke | here's the code: https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk/ubuntu/aboutubuntu/C/about-ubuntu.xml | 11:30 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: How can a <guimenuchoice> have multiple <guimenuitem>:s? I think that should be something like <guisubmenu> | 11:32 |
| mdke | mvirkkil: you are probably right, but it's not invalid | 11:33 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: No. Unfortunately my code assumes a <guimenuitem> is the last in the row :/ | 11:33 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: But the itemized list inside a para is the really problematic bug. | 11:34 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: That was an exellent catch :) | 11:34 |
| === mdke nods | ||
| mvirkkil | mdke: I'll have to really rework some of the code to support that :) | 11:34 |
| mdke | sorry about that :) | 11:35 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: The images work. | 11:36 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: It's just that there is no image on the wiki at ../../images/C/ubuntuheader.png | 11:36 |
| mdke | heh | 11:37 |
| mdke | mvirkkil: shouldn't it prompt for me to upload an attachment? | 11:37 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: No, because the link is a direct link like [../../images/C/ubuntuheader.png] , not an attachment:../../images/C/ubuntuheader.png | 11:38 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: So if the path would be a complete url to any server anywhere, it would work directly. | 11:38 |
| mdke | hmm | 11:38 |
| mdke | i wonder if that is the best way to handle images | 11:39 |
| mdke | at least those with relative paths | 11:39 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: Well, my plan is to have people upload zips, which get extracted, and the images get attached to the main page. | 11:39 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: mainpage==book's page | 11:40 |
| mdke | where the image is one with a relative path, I would have thought attachment:filename.png would work | 11:41 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: You mean, that if it's a relative path, it should write out an attachment:ubuntuheader.png instead? | 11:42 |
| mdke | can you think of a reason why not to do that? | 11:42 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: It gets a bit tricky if there are something like ../../images/en/flag.png and ../../images/fi/flag.png | 11:43 |
| mvirkkil | because then it would just write attachment:flag.png for both, even though they should be different files. | 11:43 |
| mdke | good point | 11:44 |
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| jsgotangco | dum dum dee dum | 01:48 |
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| ompaul | jsgotangco, I'll guess that tune in 5? | 02:12 |
| jsgotangco | haha | 02:12 |
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| mvirkkil | mdke: Fixing "lists inside para" will result in nasty ugly code. | 04:25 |
| mdke | mvirkkil: I'm not very good with code, I'm not sure I can help... | 04:26 |
| mvirkkil | Since a para needs to be a single line, so I want to use normalize-space to strip any newlines and spaces in the beginning and end. This is naturally not possible when there are lists present. | 04:26 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: no worries. I wasn't expecting you to. | 04:27 |
| mdke | I can help test though! | 04:27 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: And that is very much appreciated :) | 04:28 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: Unfortunately this looks like a tough one to crack. | 04:28 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: Because any way I fix it, will cause breakage somewhere elese. | 04:28 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: I'm asking my mentor for help on this one :) | 04:29 |
| mdke | are you able to simply treat it as you would if there was a </para> there before the list? | 04:29 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: The problem is that there is no easy way to collect all the stuff before the list in one. | 04:30 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: Or there is, but I'm hoping there would be a cleaner solution. | 04:30 |
| mdke | ok | 04:33 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: It's conceptually a simple matter. My problems are on the code level. | 04:34 |
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| jjesse | mdke: what do you have to do to get comitt access to the svn? | 04:38 |
| jjesse | mdke: i would like to have philbull have comitt permissions as he will be working on the switching guide w/ me | 04:42 |
| jjesse | and will have lots to add :0 | 04:42 |
| mdke | jjesse: contribute patches to the list that demonstrate some constant contribution and the ability to write valid docbook consistently with our styleguide | 04:42 |
| mdke | jjesse: ah cool | 04:42 |
| jjesse | mdke: we've spent the lasthour discussing and philbull will be emailing the list to let everyone know our thoughts | 04:42 |
| mdke | start off with him sending a few patches, and then he can be given access | 04:43 |
| mdke | jjesse: there is some suggestion that Ubuntu membership is also a prerequisite | 04:43 |
| jjesse | mdke: ok will get him started sending diffs and we then move him along | 04:43 |
| mdke | great | 04:44 |
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| nixternal | @SIG@ | 06:01 |
| linuxmonkey | i read up on some cool moin moin features | 06:16 |
| nixternal | on our wiki, or the actual moinmoin wikiwiki? | 06:21 |
| linuxmonkey | moinmoin | 06:23 |
| nixternal | ya, there are a lot of macro's they have, plus a lot of scripts...we don't have a lot of them enabled on our machine | 06:24 |
| nixternal | like the parsers | 06:24 |
| linuxmonkey | yeah | 06:24 |
| nixternal | c, java, ruby and stuff like that | 06:24 |
| linuxmonkey | the stuff i read about worked like a charm | 06:24 |
| nixternal | which ones? | 06:26 |
| linuxmonkey | like the url in text mode..so it doesnt come up as a linke | 06:26 |
| nixternal | using `` | 06:27 |
| nixternal | oh..i know what you are talking about | 06:27 |
| nixternal | yes | 06:27 |
| linuxmonkey | or using {address} | 06:29 |
| nixternal | im just interested really in the wiki > docbook stuff ;) | 06:29 |
| nixternal | what i have been doing, is running the desktop moinmoin, and doing all my stuff locally, then copy/paste it up to the main wiki...makes it much easier to edit locally, that way i don't loose anything | 06:31 |
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