[12:01] <Rief> can i controll the window width and height with a script?
[12:02] <juantao> Hi there, I want to sign the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, but am confused using pgp - I have a key at launchpad, how might I proceed?
[12:03] <jay> hi
[12:03] <sys8976> I ran diskmounter to see my 40g ntfs drive, however in xubuntu it isnt showing it in listed. however when I go into settings-disks- it is showing it there. anyone know how I can access my slave drive? I just need to read it not write to it
[12:03] <ompaul> juantao, give me about 15 minutes and I can help you there
[12:03] <erUSUL> juantao: gpg -s file to sign ??
[12:03] <moshe> hey folks
[12:03] <SimzI> Anybody know any plugins for Xchat which show your now playing shiz from xmms?
[12:03] <juantao> ompaul: thanks,
[12:04] <moshe> does anyone know of a Linux utility that will convert chm files to something more useful?
[12:04] <aLPHa_LeaK> SimzI: there are loads
[12:04] <dpn> How do I allow Azureus to update, evertime the auto-updater works it says "The location '/opt/azureus' isnt writable
[12:04] <SimzI> Like, aLPHa_LeaK ?
[12:04] <SonicChao> dpn: are you updating as root?
[12:04] <sys8976> I ran diskmounter to see my 40g ntfs drive, however in xubuntu it isnt showing it in listed. however when I go into settings-disks- it is showing it there. anyone know how I can access my slave drive? I just need to read it not write to it
[12:04] <aLPHa_LeaK> SimzI: wait a sec...
[12:05] <SimzI> cheers
[12:05] <kolaje> is there an option to view a progress on a cp or mv?
[12:05] <gnomefreak> kolaje: cd to the dir than type ls
[12:05] <nuxro> please I need a server without lag for conected... help me
[12:05] <juantao> is " 7EC2B4A9" my key or is it "0xd97e767ae15d7356a78deb547be8083c7ec2b4a9" ?
[12:05] <aLPHa_LeaK> SimzI: http://scripts.xchat.org/cgi-bin/disp << search for xmms there
[12:05] <ompaul> juantao, if you get the information you need in the mean time please let me know cheers
[12:05] <erUSUL> juantao: the former iirc
[12:05] <dpn> Sonic, Im just running azureus
[12:06] <dpn> it auto updates
[12:06] <aLPHa_LeaK> SimzI: "XCHT-XMMS 0.1" is one for example
[12:06] <dpn> how do I run it as root
[12:06] <gnomefreak> kolaje: yw
[12:06] <ompaul> !root
[12:06] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:06] <gnomefreak> dpn: sudo
[12:06] <LiteHedded> what's /dev/console?
[12:06] <aLPHa_LeaK> "xmms to X-Chat 1.0a" another, SimzI
[12:06] <SimzI> the link doesn't work for it aLPHa_LeaK, is it available via apt-get ?
[12:06] <dpn> sudo azureus doesnt work =/
[12:07] <aLPHa_LeaK> SimzI: the link should work...
[12:07] <crogue5> so how do you mount your HD after booting Desktop live?
[12:07] <tvalladon> kolaje, check out Pipe Viewer: http://www.ivarch.com/programs/pv.shtml
[12:07] <aLPHa_LeaK> SimzI: are you registered here?
[12:07] <SimzI> yes
[12:07] <aLPHa_LeaK> SimzI: may i query you?
[12:07] <SimzI> yup
[12:07] <sys8976> anyone know much about diskmounter and xubuntu
[12:08] <juantao> erusul: what does "the former iirc" mean ?
[12:08] <dpn> Now my icons on my desktop aren't working....
[12:08] <SonicChao> dpn: You weren't supposed to do that
[12:08] <dpn> Not supposed to do what
[12:08] <erUSUL> juantao: the first one if i recall correctly. the shorter form is the id of the key. 7EC2B4A9
[12:08] <LiteHedded> what's /dev/console?
[12:09] <erUSUL> juantao: the larger one is the fingerprint iirc
[12:09] <sys8976> LiteHedded: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=265127 here
[12:10] <juantao> erusul: er. thanks. I don't have my key installed on this box (I guess?)
[12:10] <gioacchino> hello
[12:10] <gioacchino> I had a problem with ubuntu
[12:10] <erUSUL> juantao: where do you generated it?
[12:10] <dpn> So how am I supposed to open azureus with sudo
[12:10] <juantao> ersusl: on a box at work
[12:11] <dli> dpn, no, run it as user
[12:11] <nomats> dpn, why would you do that?
[12:11] <dpn> To update it
[12:11] <dpn> The auto update won't work
[12:11] <gioacchino> I had install wine 0.9.9 but  I had a program work with Wine 20030115
[12:11] <dpn> Keeps downloading applying, then saying it cant write to the update dir
[12:11] <dpn> Cause I dont have permission
[12:11] <gioacchino> I must remove wine 0.9.9 and install Wine 20030115
[12:12] <erUSUL> juantao: then your key is in that box at work, yes.
[12:12] <nomats> dpn, write to another directory?
[12:12] <dpn> Its an auto update!
[12:12] <dpn> I can't control where its going
[12:12] <juantao> erusul: isn't the key one of those numbers I sent a few minutes ago?
[12:13] <ardchoille> dpn: let me get this stright.. someone wrote an app that is used as USER and that app has auto-update that updates files in a dir that is not writeable by the USER?
[12:13] <nomats> ahh. it probably downloads it to /tmp. you can decompress it yourself to the appropriate folder. there's a post on ubuntuforum about this
[12:13] <dpn> yes
[12:13] <dpn> azureus
[12:13] <dpn> Do you want me to take a screenshot of the popup box
[12:13] <harmless> lo
[12:14] <roostishaw> what is the package for bon echo called?
[12:15] <erUSUL> juantao: no, that was the id and fingerprint of the key. you can export your key to a file 'gpg --export-secret-key > ultrasecurefile.gpg' and then in your home box 'gpg --import ultrasecurefile.gpg'
[12:15] <moses__> besides Gimp. any good graphics program for Ubuntu?
[12:15] <tibbe_> How can I install latest Ruby on Rails and RubyGems without ending up with lots of hard to remove orphaned files?
[12:15] <gioacchino> how to get Wine 20030115  ????????????
[12:15] <gioacchino> how to get Wine 20030115  ????????????
[12:15] <dpn> So not one single person here uses Azurues?
[12:15] <moses__> gioacchino: go away
[12:15] <deamon> Hello to all !
[12:15] <Wordsworth> I used Azureus until uTorrent came along.
[12:15] <erUSUL> gioacchino: do not repeat
[12:15] <moses__> gnomefreak: besides Gimp. any good graphics program for Ubuntu?
[12:15] <nomats> dpn, 01:13
[12:15] <Wordsworth> uTorrent uses almost no resources, and it's nothing but an exed.
[12:16] <dpn> If I cant get azureus working what chance do I have with utorrent in Wine
[12:16] <Wordsworth> I've been trying to install Ubuntu, but I keep  getting a memory error when I boot from the disc
[12:16] <Wordsworth> When I run the install from my Windows desktop, the browser never loads, only the splash and then it closes
[12:16] <gioacchino> please help me!!!!
[12:16] <Wordsworth> Any ideas what is wrong? Thanks.
[12:16] <gnomefreak> moses__: i gave you 3 or 4 before
[12:16] <erUSUL> moses__: do not repeat... please. krita? pixel?
[12:16] <deamon> can anybody speak with me ?
[12:16] <gnomefreak> gioacchino: please tell us what the issue is instead of all the !
[12:16] <erUSUL> gioacchino: be polite please
[12:17] <ardchoille> deamon: Hi, what do you need?
[12:17] <moses__> gnomefreak: sorry I left for 5mins, missed them
[12:17] <dpn> How do I run a program in sudo so it won't whine about permissions
[12:17] <moses__> gnomefreak: what were those 5?
[12:17] <gioacchino> I had xml spy 2006 pro installer
[12:18] <moses__> deamon: no
[12:18] <harmless> to install kde on an ubantu livecd, can i do sudo apt-get install kde ?
[12:18] <gioacchino> but it not work with wine 0.9.9
[12:18] <Shizboom> what x window manager is installed in ubuntu by default?
[12:18] <deamon> ardchoille, i'm from Ukraine, and i want to get new friends and to practice my English (:
[12:18] <gioacchino> it work only Wine 20030115
[12:18] <erUSUL> harmless: you can not install something as big as that in a livecd
[12:18] <gnomefreak> moses__: try imagemagic or blender or any of them there are many apps in that catagory i suggest looking in synaptic and finding one you like
[12:18] <gioacchino> I had searc on google it but i had forund wine 0.9.16
[12:19] <samuli> erUSUL, actually you probably can given enough ram.
[12:19] <ardchoille> deamon: I understand. This is a support channel for Ubuntu Linux. Do you use Ubuntu?
[12:19] <nomats> dpn, open terminal and type sudo azureus
[12:19] <dpn> I've got it
[12:19] <dpn> found a thread in the forums
[12:19] <harmless> im going to install it to disk after i mess with it for a bit. ive been using knoppix for a few days
[12:19] <dpn> thanks thoughn
[12:19] <deamon> ardchoille, sorry, i don't use that Linux (:
[12:19] <frying_fish> gioacchino: is there no native linux program that can do what xml spy does?
[12:19] <harmless> figured if i was going to install something, it should be something like ubuntu
[12:19] <ardchoille> deamon: Ok :)
[12:19] <roostishaw> what is the package for bon echo called?
[12:19] <erUSUL> samuli: well yes you are right but still...
[12:20] <moses__> gnomefreak: ok!
[12:20] <samuli> erUSUL, yeah :) There's no point in doing that.
[12:20] <harmless> what are benefits of gnome over kde?
[12:20] <moses__> gnomefreak: : Couldn't find package imagemagic
[12:20] <Seveas> harmless, what are the benefits of brown bread over white?
[12:20] <Seveas> moses__, imagemagick
[12:21] <gnomefreak> oh yeah the k
[12:21] <XoNE> SonicChao: I found it....you don't have to be root after all.  Right-click on icon and "unmount".  <sigh> :-)
[12:21] <moses__> Seveas: thanks
[12:21] <samuli> harmless, it's probably better for people who just want to use their computers and not tinker with it too much.
[12:21] <ardchoille> harmless: I feel that it is mostly personal preference. Try them both and see which one works best for you.
[12:21] <moses__> Seveas: is blender of imagemagick better?
[12:21] <Drasla> how do I find out what is invoking vsftpd?  there's no entry in either inetd.conf or in the init.d folder...
[12:21] <SonicChao> XoNE: Ok...sorry about being misinformed.
[12:21] <harmless> ive used kde for a few days and gnome for only a few minutes
[12:21] <samuli> learning curve of gnome is less steep. That's not to say it's 'easier' in the long run though.
[12:21] <erUSUL> moses__: blender is a 3d modeler
[12:21] <Seveas> moses__, they're not comparable...
[12:21] <nothingman> anyone here have experience with S3 cards and Xinerama under Dapper?
[12:22] <moses__> harmless: i like gnome
[12:22] <moses__> ok
[12:22] <SonicChao> !anyone > nothingman
[12:22] <XoNE> SonicChao:  oh, no problem..  just wanted to share the info :-)
[12:22] <harmless> gnome seemed lighter
[12:22] <Seveas> it is
[12:22] <samuli> I differ.
[12:22] <SonicChao> XoNE: thanks
[12:22] <samuli> To me KDE is way faster-
[12:22] <moses__> Seveas: it says: imagemagick is already the newest version.
[12:22] <moses__>   But how can I load it?
[12:22] <moses__> imagemagick is already the newest version. bash: imagemagick: command not found
[12:23] <Seveas> moses__, see the documentation in /usr/share/imagemagick - you call it from the command line. It is very powerful but dificult to used
[12:23] <ardchoille> moses__: are you wanting a gui app to create graphics?
[12:23] <erUSUL> moses__: imagemagick is a cli program. use display, convert, mogrify etc
[12:23] <moses__> it says imagemagick is latest version, yet then it says it cant load :P
[12:23] <moses__> ardchoille: I only want to create a single file, 640x400 black screen with red writing
[12:23] <moses__> ardchoille: gui yes
[12:24] <killaz> hi folks
[12:24] <nomats> moses__, try dpkg -L imagemagick | grep bin
[12:24] <ompaul> juantao are you still stuck?
[12:24] <ardchoille> moses__: then, imagemagick probably isn't what you want. I like gimp and inkscape myself.
[12:24] <killaz> is there a cli version of php?
[12:24] <moses__> ardchoille: can you create a single file, 640x400 black screen with red writing for me, if I give you the text I need?
[12:24] <Seveas> killaz, apt-get install php5-cli
[12:24] <moses__> ardchoille: I cant ger Gimp to make a black bg with red writing
[12:25] <ardchoille> moses__: join me in #jayden please
[12:26] <varsendaggr> hey how do i open up a firewall for amule?
[12:26] <Warbo> varsendaggr: Check which ports it is using (maybe 6667?) and use something like Firestarter to open them up
[12:27] <varsendaggr> ahh
[12:27] <Warbo> varsendaggr: Are you using an external/hardware firewall or router?
[12:27] <erUSUL> varsendaggr: what firewall front end did you instaled?? with firestarter??
[12:27] <varsendaggr> router
[12:27] <Warbo> varsendaggr: Then you need to open up the ports on it
[12:27] <varsendaggr> whateve comes with ubuntu
[12:27] <varsendaggr> can i do that with firestarter?
[12:28] <Warbo> varsendaggr: No, if you know the IP address of your router (maybe 192.168.1.1) then put that into a browser and you should be able to configure it
[12:28] <erUSUL> varsendaggr: then you have to configure nat on your router to forward the apropiate port(s) to your computer
[12:28] <juantao> ompaul: yes
[12:28] <varsendaggr> ahh
[12:28] <Warbo> I can't actually get mine to forward them properly :(
[12:29] <erUSUL> Warbo: yeah i have to reconfigure them evey time i reboot the computer... (weird but true)
[12:29] <mtsunami> does anyone know why my volume controls wouldn't affect the volume in rhythmbox?
[12:30] <ompaul> juantao, please check your private messages
[12:30] <tron_> hello, i need help
[12:30] <tron_> ive been trying to get easyubuntu installed
[12:30] <ompaul> tron_, have you asked in #easyubuntu?
[12:30] <erUSUL> ompaul: i think i helped juantao with the gpg problem...
[12:30] <juantao> ompaul: um... sorry, how do I do that?
[12:30] <Warbo> mtsunami: My soundcard is a bit weird, so the only effective volume control (other than mute) is the HiFi I have it connected to
[12:30] <tron_> first i got nothing but 404 errors, now i dl it and extracted it, but it wont install
[12:30] <mtsunami> i mean, even if i mute the volume from the little icon in the corner, rhythmbox still plays :/
[12:30] <tron_> no one in easyubuntu
[12:31] <ompaul> erUSUL, I asked was he still stuck
[12:31] <ompaul> juantao, click on the link
[12:31] <mtsunami> yeah i have external control that will work fine but the pc can't control it :(
[12:31] <Warbo> mtsunami: The only ones which matter to Rhythmbox are the Master and PCM, anyway
[12:31] <nomats> mtsunami, maybe the little icon changes master volume and you need to change pcm
[12:32] <nothingman> I'm having trouble with the Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 cards (ViRGE 86C325) in my Xinerama setup that worked fine under Breezy ever since I upgraded to Dapper
[12:32] <Bassetts> what should be used instead of skype on ubuntu?
[12:32] <nothingman> the other card is an Intel i810 of some sort
[12:32] <Warbo> Bassetts: Skype, or Ekiga or maybe OpenWengo (never used it myself)
[12:32] <mtsunami> ok i will try pcm then
[12:32] <Bassetts> Warbo: thanks, dont want to use skype as it isnt SIP
[12:33] <nothingman> and the material Google finds me tells me to change the driver from s3virge to s3 -- which removes the errors, but still gives me nothing on my monitors (and the mouse doesn't go off the middle screen)
[12:33] <mtsunami> no that didn't do it :(
[12:33] <erUSUL> ompaul: if i understand him... he has his secret key (ring) in a machine at work so he can not sign anything from home. but maybe i misanderstood :(
[12:33] <nothingman> and the Intel screen doesn't come up with the s3virge drivers, either
[12:33] <nothingman> only if I remove them or use s3
[12:33] <Bassetts> Warbo: can i call landlines, get calls from landlines with either of them?
[12:33] <Warbo> Bassetts: Ekiga comes with Ubuntu I think. I set it up really easily on my Dad's machine, but couln't get my router to forward the right ports so it doesn't work on mine :(
[12:34] <nothingman> the errors I get are related to the allocation of memory
[12:34] <ompaul> erUSUL, so it appears, not much to do anyway
[12:34] <Warbo> Bassetts: I think so, but you would have to check on ekiga.net or ekiga.org (I know nothing about openwengo though)
[12:34] <Bassetts> Warbo: what i really need is incoming calls
[12:34] <hoehaver> can someone with ktorrent and a router help me
[12:35] <erUSUL> hoehaver: maybe someone with utorrent and a router can help too? ;)
[12:35] <hoehaver> well utorrent is for windows
[12:36] <erUSUL> hoehaver: i run it with wine here...
[12:36] <hoehaver> oo
[12:36] <Warbo> I like whichever torrent client is built into GNOME. It acts just like a regular downloading file, so that is nice
[12:36] <Bassetts> Warbo: seems ekiga has outgoing not incoming and Wengo has a incoming number soon
[12:37] <hoehaver> well, ktorrent isnt connecting, it will conneect but only for a short while
[12:37] <hoehaver> then i get error messages like Authentication to 80.193.10.192 : failure
[12:37] <hoehaver> Timeout occured
[12:37] <hoehaver> Authentication to 86.62.203.147 : failure
[12:37] <hoehaver> Timeout occured
[12:37] <hoehaver> Authentication to 70.234.20.218 : failure
[12:37] <mjr> Bassetts, inaccurate; ekiga can use any SIP provider, and the default one does provide call-in numbers as well, though only in a few countries at this point
[12:37] <hoehaver> i have  the ports forwarded in my router and in my firewall (firestarter)
[12:37] <gluttony> ok, how do i get ubuntu to play mp3s
[12:38] <Bassetts> mjr: really?? their site says nothing about this
[12:38] <ompaul> hoehaver, Don't paste in this channel thanks, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:38] <Warbo> hoehaver: Is this a really popular file? I know Debian ISOs go REALLY quickly for example
[12:38] <revilot> anyone know of a way to record what you do on your desktop into video
[12:38] <Warbo> !mp3
[12:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:38] <shadowpanda> AH, ubuntu and me...its a love hate relationship
[12:38] <ompaul> revilot, there is a program called istanbul
[12:38] <mjr> Bassetts, whose, diamondcard's?
[12:38] <revilot> ompaul: i tried it, it's awful
[12:38] <mjr> (that's the default provider)
[12:38] <Warbo> Does istanbul work in Gstreamer0.10?
[12:39] <mjr> I thought I saw a dial-in option there
[12:39] <Bassetts> mjr: ekiga doesnt make it obvious
[12:39] <boxgamex> uh crap. i deleted my linux partitions and grub is on the MBR
[12:39] <hoehaver> well, its not just one file and it does it on any thing ang everything i try to download
[12:39] <boxgamex> and it just errors
[12:39] <varsendaggr> shadowpanda, why don't you go back to DOS?
[12:39] <Warbo> revilot: Try gvidcap or maybe pyvnc2swf (I use it to make flash movies)
[12:39] <Bassetts> mjr: so i need to look for SIP providers? who sell incoming numbers
[12:39] <erUSUL> hoehaver: maybe it is a private torrent and you need some kind of auth mechanism
[12:39] <shadowpanda> because i hate viruses
[12:39] <LuisMendes> since Nvu is dead, is there another visual HTML editor available for linux?
[12:39] <gluttony> seriously, i cant play mp3 files, or cds
[12:40] <shadowpanda> Im trying to find some video card drivers but i cant even run them on linux
[12:40] <hoehaver> well how do i authinticate?
[12:40] <Warbo> !tell gluttony about mp3
[12:40] <erUSUL> hoehaver: can you try with other torrent client?
[12:40] <hoehaver> or better yet how do i do static IP
[12:40] <mjr> Bassetts, yes, and I do believe the default provider has this service at some countries. Not including mine, but then, I 'm happy with call-out service
[12:40] <hoehaver> well, i was going to download another torrent downloader and see if it worked but i havent done that yet
[12:40] <Sleeping_Sloth> gluttony, are you using amarok?
[12:40] <Bassetts> mjr: well mine is for support services so i need call-in (in UK)
[12:40] <Warbo> shadowpanda: What card do you have?
[12:41] <shadowpanda> nForce 4 440
[12:41] <Warbo> Bassetts: US and UK will probably be supported by anyone with such a service
[12:41] <Bassetts> ok
[12:41] <Warbo> !nvidia
[12:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:41] <shadowpanda> I got the driver and ran it though wine but inside the install it told me I needed windows
[12:41] <gluttony> i dont know what im using
[12:41] <shadowpanda> ubotu: thanks
[12:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about thanks
[12:42] <Sleeping_Sloth> gluttony - I've only just logged in - so I havent read what you put earlier
[12:42] <gluttony> ok, i got a cd playing, but there is alot of weird static in my headset
[12:42] <Warbo> shadowpanda: You honestly tried to use a Windows driver in WINE? Take a look at that link...
[12:42] <rsk> shadowpanda, dont install drivers via wine, it wont work.
[12:42] <Sleeping_Sloth> gluttony - if you want a music player I would suggest either amarok or xmms
[12:42] <Warbo> !ubotu
[12:42] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[12:42] <ubotu> foo
[12:43] <mjr> Bassetts, the default PC-to-phone provider, diamondcard.us, does seem to provide UK phone numbers, yes
[12:43] <Bassetts> mjr: thanks
[12:43] <gluttony> Sleeping_Sloth, i get staic in all audio players
[12:43] <Warbo> gluttony: Check the volume levels. Try to make them about 3/4 on the PC, then adjust with your speakers
[12:43] <LuisMendes> since Nvu is dead, is there another visual HTML editor available for linux?
[12:44] <Warbo> Nvu is dead? Noooooo!
[12:44] <Warbo> Dammit, I like it :(
[12:45] <LuisMendes> Warbo, a year without news, updates, announcements.. nothing! I assume it is dead
[12:45] <gluttony> static is still there
[12:45] <ompaul> juantao, you okay now?
[12:45] <Sleeping_Sloth> gluttony: unless its a volume thing, it sounds like an ALSA problem - I assume you're running onboard sound?
[12:46] <gluttony> if that means i have a sound card, then yes
[12:46] <Warbo> LuisMendes: Have you checked any cvs/svn they have? Maybe some updates there
[12:46] <Sleeping_Sloth> gluttony - have you set up drivers for it?
[12:46] <LuisMendes> Warbo, yes, there's nothing
[12:46] <Sleeping_Sloth> warbo, luismendes: - there's Amaya
[12:47] <gluttony> nope, how do i do that.
[12:47] <LuisMendes> Sleeping_Sloth, is it good? compared to dead nvu...
[12:47] <AdamG> Right, so I installed all of ubuntu to one partition, and now I want to use a diffrent partition as /home. Can I have it do that automatically without reinstallation?
[12:47] <erUSUL> !sound
[12:47] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:47] <Sleeping_Sloth> I don't know - I just know it exists
[12:47] <Warbo> LuisMendes: Oh well, I don't actually need any updates actually. I only use it's basic features (I'm stingy so I don't pay for any hosting which allows FTP)
[12:48] <shadowpanda> Warbo: can you please go to this site and help me with one of my steps? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:48] <Warbo> Amaya, in my opinion, is a showcase for W3C standards. It isn't really that useful
[12:48] <Sleeping_Sloth> luismendes: Amaya is a bit hard to use, but it's endorsed by the W3C, so you know that pages you build in it will be standards-based. It offers features like CSS editing and will edit XML really well. Feature highlights: XML support, scripting support, advanced CSS support, built-in validator, and international support as well as WYSIWYG and color coded XHTML editing.
[12:48] <erUSUL> AdamG: automatically no just ceate the partition copy the files and modify fstab
[12:48] <LuisMendes> Sleeping_Sloth, wow this Amaya is developed by W3C!
[12:48] <Sleeping_Sloth> luismendes: yeah - it *sounds* like it could be pretty handy - I might give it a go myself.
[12:48] <tvalladon> Sleeping_Sloth: what do you think of bluefish? I know its not wysiwyg...
[12:48] <Warbo> shadowpanda: What step can't you do?
[12:48] <AdamG> ooh, fstab, never edited that before :P Thanks, though
[12:49] <LuisMendes> tvalladon, bluefish? use gedit instead :P
[12:49] <Sleeping_Sloth> tvalladon: I've never been a big wysiwyg fan - I prefer coding by hand
[12:49] <tvalladon> hmmm
[12:49] <Warbo> I'll tell you one thing, NEVER make a HTML page in Abiword. The amount of crap it adds to every single line is unbelievable :)
[12:49] <tvalladon> Sleeping_Sloth: same, but my Ultraedit doesnt run under linux.. and wine makes it slow
[12:49] <Sleeping_Sloth> tvallon - I use PSPad on windows, I dont think there is a linux port
[12:50] <shadowpanda> Under Install and activate  drivers
[12:50] <shadowpanda> 6. Find the appropriate module for your kernal.
[12:50] <shadowpanda> i can not find this
[12:50] <hoehaver> how do i setup a static IP?
[12:50] <Warbo> shadowpanda: Tell you what, I'll walk you through my way of doing it.
[12:50] <shadowpanda> ok good deal
[12:50] <Warbo> shadowpanda: In a terminal do "uname -r"
[12:50] <Warbo> shadowpanda: What does it give?
[12:51] <tvalladon> Sleeping_Sloth: so gedit, thanks, I will look into it
[12:51] <shadowpanda> 2.6.15-23-386
[12:51] <shadowpanda> is that my linux address?
[12:51] <Warbo> shadowpanda: OK, now run "sudo apt-get install module-assistant nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-source"
[12:52] <Warbo> shadowpanda: That is the version of the kernel you are using
[12:52] <Sleeping_Sloth> is anyone on here using amarok on gnome?
[12:52] <Warbo> Sleeping_Sloth: Me (1.4.1)
[12:52] <rsk> !elf
[12:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about elf
[12:52] <Warbo> !pixie
[12:52] <shadowpanda> Warbo: Couldn't find package nvidia-kernal-source
[12:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about pixie
[12:53] <shadowpanda> it says nvidia-glx is already the newest version.
[12:53] <Sleeping_Sloth> warbo: I'm on the repository version (1.3.9) and it crashes sometimes
[12:53] <Warbo> shadowpanda: kernel, with an E
[12:53] <shadowpanda> haha oops
[12:53] <Sleeping_Sloth> warbo: and it refers to kmail or something
[12:53] <tvalladon> suggestion for good music library system with iPod support?
[12:54] <Sleeping_Sloth> it's not done it for a while (with an error) but it seems fairly prone to freezing up
[12:54] <shadowpanda> sudo apt-get install module-assistant nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-source
[12:54] <Warbo> Sleeping_Sloth: Yeah, it did that sometimes for me when I overloaded it (tip: Give it a few seconds between track changes so it can buffer. Don't just keep hitting Super-B)
[12:54] <pianoboy3333> Where do the normal java classes get installed to with the sun java package?
[12:54] <Warbo> Sleeping_Sloth: That is because it tries to file a bug report
[12:54] <Nutubuntu> Hi - Just upgraded Breezy->Dapper and have some minor issues. First is my MS Intellimouse. The wheel is no longer behaving the way it used to; I can't scroll down, for example, in Firefox, and the side buttons no longer take me "forward" and "back" over links I've clicked. How do I get my old mouse behavior back?
[12:54] <Sleeping_Sloth> warbo: ah - thanks, that clears that up
[12:54] <Sleeping_Sloth> warbo: can I disable bug reporting?
[12:55] <Warbo> shadowpanda: Has it installed that stuff yet?
[12:55] <shadowpanda> Warbo: i get another error, Nvidia-glx is already the newest version. Package nvidia-kernel-source is not available, but is referred by another package.
[12:55] <Warbo> Sleeping_Sloth: I don't know, but I think you might be able to change which tool it uses (so point it to /bin/true or something) have a look through the options
[12:55] <Warbo> !universe
[12:55] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:55] <colk> anyone know how to install openssl0.9.6
[12:56] <Warbo> shadowpanda: Do you have the "universe" and "multiverse" repositories enabled?
[12:56] <shadowpanda> i dont know
[12:56] <shadowpanda> nor would i know how to check
[12:56] <Sleeping_Sloth> warbo: thanks
[12:56] <shadowpanda> wait
[12:56] <Warbo> shadowpanda: Then you don't :)
[12:56] <shadowpanda> i may hold on
[12:57] <shadowpanda> i do no
[12:57] <shadowpanda> now
[12:57] <hchaudh1> i recently bought a MS Sttreets and Trips 2006 GPS unit + SW. Is that supported in ubuntu?
[12:57] <Dromen> are virus scanners worthwhile having in ubuntu ?
[12:58] <lophyte> virus? linux? what?
[12:58] <Dromen> lophyte: they do exist
[12:58] <Dromen> ironicaly
[12:58] <Dromen> *ironically
[12:58] <hchaudh1> haha lol
[12:58] <erUSUL> colk: dapper's is 0.9.8
[12:58] <shadowpanda> Warbo: whats my next step
[12:58] <Dromen> search virus in synaptic
[12:58] <Warbo> Dromen: If you are running Linux as a gateway to a heavily M$ based corporate network or something then yes
[12:58] <colk> erUSUL, im trying to use yahoo offical messenger and it isnt working too well
[12:58] <Warbo> shadowpanda: You have module assistant?
[12:59] <rsk> hchaudh1, MS streets is not supported.
[12:59] <NiklasH_work> hi, i'm trying edgy out, but can't get past the error in configuring gtk-engines-xenophilia. how do i do to get rid of that?
[12:59] <Dromen> oki warbo just curious :)
[12:59] <rsk> hchaudh1, abaut trips and SW i have no idea.
[12:59] <Warbo> !edgy
[12:59] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:59] <lophyte> Dromen: http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/linuxvirustop10.html
[12:59] <shadowpanda> Warbo: I dont know, as you can tell i have been hooked on MS way too long.
[12:59] <erUSUL> colk: does not gaim work with the yahoo network?
[12:59] <lophyte> Dromen: read that :)
[12:59] <erUSUL> colk: are you trying to compile it?
[12:59] <Warbo> shadowpanda: The "apt-get" line should install it. Did it work?
[12:59] <colk> dosent support the parts of yahoo that are needed
[12:59] <harmless> ey mon, if i install ubuntu to a partition on slave drive, can it be boot to?
[12:59] <Dromen> lol lophyte looks funny
[12:59] <NiklasH_work> yeah, i know what edgy is ;)
[12:59] <colk> no im using the offical client deb
[12:59] <Dromen> only read part 1
[01:00] <bimberi> NiklasH_work: #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions
[01:00] <lophyte> its a good article :)
[01:00] <Warbo> NiklasH_work: I thought it would say something about #ubuntu+1 :)
[01:00] <NiklasH_work> bimberi: thanks, i'll go there
[01:00] <bimberi> NiklasH_work: np :)
[01:00] <NiklasH_work> Warbo: ok, got it :)
[01:01] <Warbo> harmless: You need the bootloader (GRUB) on the drive which is booted (probably first one) but then it can boot an OS which is installed wherever
[01:01] <slak> I'm on dialup, is there anyone in here that could snail mail me an ubuntu CD?
[01:01] <slak> shipit takes like 6 weeks
[01:01] <erUSUL> colk: please adress me as i'm doing with you. it is hard to follow otherwise. what is the problem with the deb?
[01:01] <Bassetts> whats the best way to vnc into a windows box?
[01:01] <bimberi> !no edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:01] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[01:01] <Warbo> slak: Easier to find someone/where with broadband
[01:02] <harmless> slak, have any friends where you with with a burner?
[01:02] <shadowpanda> Warbo: is it apt-get module assistant?
[01:02] <rsk> Bassetts, install tight vnc server to the windows box
[01:02] <Bassetts> thanks rsk
[01:02] <colk> erUSUL, it depends on openssl 0.9.6 and it wont install if i force the issue then apt has issues installing it
[01:02] <Warbo> shadowpanda: "sudo apt-get install module-assistent"
[01:02] <Warbo> assistant sorry
[01:02] <shadowpanda> haha thanks
[01:02] <harmless> vnc better than rdesktop rsk?
[01:02] <stefg> !info m-a
[01:02] <ubotu> Package m-a does not exist in dapper
[01:02] <rsk> abaut same
[01:02] <hchaudh1> I did try to install it via Wine, no luck. So the SW is definitely not supported. I am wondering if the GPS unit itself is supported. Its a Pharos unit which is a MS hardware vendor, but just hoping it is.
[01:03] <Warbo> stefg: That's just an executable :)
[01:03] <zim> hi all trying to get my sony tr1mp to work at 1280x786 all my googling says i need to use a prog 915resolution i have installed it but have no idea how to use it
[01:03] <erUSUL> colk: it should install as the version in dapper is higher than 0.9.6... can you post the errors in a pastebin
[01:03] <zim> any ideas anyone
[01:03] <landsg> can anyone help with install issue on Dapper?  x display doesn't work!
[01:03] <shadowpanda> Warbo: complete with no errors
[01:03] <colk> ok hold on
[01:03] <Warbo> shadowpanda: OK, now run "sudo m-a"
[01:03] <ironpancake> is there a way to make each of your desktops have a different background?
[01:04] <erUSUL> landsg: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to reconfigure X
[01:04] <shadowpanda> Warbo: oooh ahhh
[01:04] <bimberi> stefg: and it failed miserably :)
[01:04] <landsg> ok will try
[01:04] <Warbo> ironpancake: Run kdesktop, Enlightenment or something
[01:04] <erUSUL> ironpancake: in gnome no iirc
[01:04] <Warbo> shadowpanda: OK, update it, then prepare it
[01:04] <ironpancake> erusul: you can't in gnome?
[01:04] <erUSUL> ironpancake: no afaik
[01:05] <Warbo> ironpancake: You can disable Nautilus's drawing of the desktop then run kdesktop (but it would be a big use of resources)
[01:05] <shadowpanda> Warbo: done and done
[01:05] <zim> any one played with intel graphics cards here
[01:05] <shadowpanda> y
[01:05] <Warbo> shadowpanda: Go on select, then go down to the nvidia one. Press space to select it then enter to go onto the next screen
[01:06] <zim> i have insatlled 915resolution to fix my resolution but dont know what switches to use when i run it
[01:06] <Warbo> shadowpanda: On the next screen "get" it, then "build" it then "install" it
[01:07] <shadowpanda> Warbo: Installation of the nvidia-kernel-source source failed
[01:07] <zim> shadowpanda what are you trying to do
[01:07] <shadowpanda> install nvidia drivers
[01:08] <ze4502us> hi guys i need help getting a bcm43xx wireless card to work
[01:08] <shadowpanda> and its redicioulously long
[01:08] <zim> join #ubuntu-xgl
[01:08] <ze4502us> i've blacklisted the built in driver in the kernel
[01:08] <ze4502us> and installed the windows driver with ndiswrapper
[01:08] <Warbo> shadowpanda: It has to compile them for your kernel (turn source code into a program)
[01:09] <sztanpet> my problem is that on my laptop line in and mic are the same slots, and ubuntu doesnt recognize my microfon in the mic slot, instead i can record only from the line in, any way i can fix this?
[01:09] <Warbo> shadowpanda: Go in Synaptic and search for "nvidia"
[01:09] <zim> in there is a link to get xgl/compiz working on most cards one of the steps is install the drivers from a .deb easy
[01:09] <ze4502us> ndiswrapper reports the driver installed and hardware present but neither network-manager nor network-admin show the card as being prsent
[01:09] <shadowpanda> Warbo: Ok, yea. I have been hearing your steps but now im starting to understand them
[01:09] <zim> and xgl/compiz rocks
[01:10] <Warbo> zim: Whatever floats your boat
[01:10] <shadowpanda> Warbo: ok im there
[01:10] <zim> warbo dont you like it
[01:10] <ze4502us> i need help getting a bcm43xx wireless card to work
[01:10] <Nutubuntu> Hi - Just upgraded Breezy->Dapper and have some minor issues. First is my MS Intellimouse. The wheel is no longer behaving the way it used to; I can't scroll down, for example, in Firefox, and the side buttons no longer take me "forward" and "back" over links I've clicked. How do I get my old mouse behavior back?
[01:11] <Warbo> shadowpanda: Is there any nvidia-kernel-source package, or anything that looks similar?
[01:11] <Warbo> zim: To many bugs in that kind of stuff
[01:11] <sztanpet> ze4502us its on the wiki
[01:11] <zim> not with a nvidia crad i just folowed the howto and it just worked
[01:11] <zim> very slick
[01:12] <shadowpanda> Warbo: nvidia-kernel-common
[01:12] <Warbo> zim: Really? How well does ChBg work for you?
[01:12] <zim> and i love the fact we beat vista#
[01:12] <Warbo> zim: We? It was Novell actually...
[01:12] <landsg> erUSUL:  tried the reconfigure command, but x still not working; keyboard is acting funny too
[01:13] <colk> erUSUL, http://pastebin.com/744222
[01:13] <shadowpanda> Warbo: do you want to try to remote acess my computer?
[01:13] <Warbo> shadowpanda: Can you run "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and dump the output to the pastebin for me?
[01:13] <Warbo> shadowpanda: I doubt I could get that stuff to go through my router
[01:13] <zim> linux beat MS to a 3D desktop
[01:14] <Warbo> FLOSS did. XGL also works on BSD
[01:14] <samuli> nobody cares about 3d-desktopt.
[01:14] <slak> harmless: i have a burner, but there is no brodband in my area.
[01:14] <lophyte> what's FLOSS? that acronym really bothers me
[01:14] <harmless> i think they beat them by years, didnt they?
[01:14] <slak> so as such, no friends with broadband ;)
[01:14] <zim> novel ubuntu redhat who cares is OS and works on my ubuntu WE
[01:14] <Sasquatch> can anyone tell me how to get a wireless card working?
[01:14] <Warbo> Free/Libre Open Source Software
[01:14] <slak> i want ubuntu for my wife.
[01:14] <slak> i run fbsd.
[01:14] <lophyte> libre? *sigh*
[01:15] <slak> guess i'll wait for shipit.
[01:15] <samuli> zim, what?
[01:15] <shadowpanda> Warbo: http://pastebin.ca/83643
[01:15] <Sasquatch> anyone? wireless card help?
[01:15] <Warbo> lophyte: The Libre is important. If you think about it vista is Free at the moment
[01:15] <zim> WE = the open source community
[01:15] <rsk> Sasquatch, start with trying to find linux drivers, if there arent any. get ndiswrapper and install the windows drivers.
[01:16] <erUSUL> !wifi
[01:16] <lophyte> Warbo: but its not open source
[01:16] <ubotu> wifi is Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[01:16] <colk> Ok This is the issue im getting with Yahoo when trying to install it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17651
[01:16] <aLPHa_LeaK> Sasquatch: which wireless card are you using?
[01:16] <Sasquatch> it's running off of Prism
[01:16] <Warbo> lophyte: But surely "shared source" is even better? (joking, joking :) )
[01:16] <Sasquatch> a netgear WG511
[01:16] <aLPHa_LeaK> !airport > me
[01:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about airport
[01:16] <aLPHa_LeaK> damn
[01:16] <samuli> zim, 3d-desktop is just so in vain. I don't mind accelerated desktop for speed, but 3d. wtf?
[01:16] <lophyte> Warbo: I prefer FOSS.. but thats me :P
[01:16] <tga> hey, anyone using Beagle?
[01:17] <erUSUL> tga: me
[01:17] <tga> stupid thing, but I can't find `best` anywhere
[01:17] <colk> erUSUL,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17651 heres the output from pastebin
[01:17] <tga> erUSUL, what/where is the interface for it?
[01:17] <zim> ctrl alt -> = 3D and i love it
[01:17] <shadowpanda> Warbo: you get that link?
[01:17] <zim> have you installed it
[01:18] <Warbo> shadowpanda: Yes, but my system is under a little strain at the moment
[01:18] <shadowpanda> Warbo: understandable. I hope the rest of my days under linux arent this bad
[01:18] <Warbo> shadowpanda: Found the problem
[01:18] <shadowpanda> Warbo: cool
[01:18] <hoehaver> HEY, the way you authenticate on ktorrent, is it the cookies?
[01:19] <zim> samuli have you installed it
[01:19] <Warbo> shadowpanda: When you added universe and multiverse to your sources you accidentally moved the source repositories onto the same line as the binary ones (but left the comment, which stopped everything screweing up)
[01:20] <shadowpanda> Warbo: Ooops, so how should i fix it
[01:20] <Sasquatch> hmm, well, my wireless card shows up under Networking, but it won't activate.
[01:20] <Sasquatch> any ideas?
[01:20] <Warbo> shadowpanda: Look at line 17. Split that into 2 lines at the # then remove the #
[01:20] <tga> erUSUL, ?
[01:20] <shadowpanda> Warbo: ok
[01:20] <zim> Sasquatch are u using dhcp
[01:20] <Sasquatch> zim: yup
[01:21] <landsg> erUSUL OK, X still doesn't boot after doing reconfigure; any suggestions?
[01:21] <erUSUL> colk: i have read it. try dpkg -i --force-depends-version *.deb
[01:21] <Sasquatch> like i'll click activate under network
[01:21] <Sasquatch> but it just keeps trying to activate forever
[01:21] <erUSUL> tga: places>search
[01:21] <zim> try all the stupids first is it pluged in are the lights flashing etc
[01:21] <Warbo> landsg: Try using the vesa driver
[01:21] <Sasquatch> zim: the lights aren't flashing
[01:21] <colk> ok done thanks
[01:21] <shadowpanda> Warbo: i have to go into repositorys right?
[01:22] <landsg> right, I tried that on my last reboot
[01:22] <erUSUL> landsg: try looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.*
[01:22] <Sasquatch> but... dunno, it needs to be activated first?
[01:22] <Warbo> shadowpanda: "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" should do
[01:22] <Sasquatch> and i can't seem to do that
[01:22] <erUSUL> colk: does it work??
[01:22] <landsg> can I open an editor in the terminal window
[01:22] <zim> ok try manully config it and try ping somthing on your network
[01:22] <Warbo> landsg: vim, nano, emacs
[01:22] <landsg> tanks
[01:22] <Warbo> (why the hell did I put vim first???!)
[01:23] <ClapBedon> hello
[01:23] <tga> erUSUL, ah, sweet
[01:23] <zim> cuz vim rocks
[01:23] <tga> erUSUL, any idea if there is a live sidebar for beagle?
[01:23] <ClapBedon> Does anybody know how to mount NTFS rw with the live cd^
[01:23] <eugman> How do I do a manual ctrl + alt + backspace from the terminal?
[01:23] <ClapBedon> ?
[01:23] <Warbo> I wrote the Wiki guide for the FLOSS radeon driver, and someone cleaned it up. But htey replaced all of the nanos with vims :(
[01:23] <shadowpanda> uh... i think it is right though
[01:23] <shadowpanda> # deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[01:23] <shadowpanda> # deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[01:24] <erUSUL> tga: right-click in panel > add to panel > dekbar applet
[01:24] <eugman> !paste
[01:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:24] <zim> ClapBedon couldu can be wrong but i dont think yo
[01:24] <Warbo> eugman: "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"?
[01:24] <erUSUL> shadowpanda: do not paste here please
[01:24] <Warbo> shadowpanda: Yes, but get rid of the #s
[01:24] <Warbo> 2 lines is acceptable I think
[01:24] <eugman> Warbo, don't ask me. heh. thanks.
[01:24] <zim> ClapBedon sorry mouse click half way through could be wrong but dont think you can
[01:25] <tga> erUSUL, thanks, it's not the most intuitive thing out there
[01:25] <shadowpanda> Warbo: ok now do you want me to open the program again?
[01:25] <erUSUL> tga: no problem
[01:26] <ClapBedon> zim : i think i can use ntfsmount, but i get this error : root@ubuntu:/mnt# ntfsmount /dev/sda1 ./ntfs/
[01:26] <ClapBedon> fusermount: mount failed: Invalid argument
[01:26] <ClapBedon> fuse_mount failed.
[01:26] <ClapBedon> Unmounting:
[01:26] <Warbo> shadowpanda: Have you changed the section which actually matters? The one under the "Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' ## repository." bit?
[01:26] <tga> erUSUL, hmm I was hoping for a live sidebar that would display context-dependent info
[01:27] <zim> ClapBedon try without the last /
[01:27] <ClapBedon> same thing
[01:27] <shadowpanda> i think i did the wrong one
[01:27] <shadowpanda> how do i open the file again
[01:27] <Warbo> shadowpanda: "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:28] <zim> so that fails ntfsmount /dev/sda1 /mnt/ntfs
[01:28] <Warbo> shadowpanda: The one lower down is "backports", but you are interested in the proper universe and multiverse
[01:28] <tga> interesting.. Places > Search doesn't work but the Deskbar works
[01:28] <Warbo> Deskbar is a must for Edgy
[01:29] <zim> ClapBedon are you root
[01:29] <shadowpanda> Warbo: there we go, i accidently edited lines 26 and 27 instead of 17
[01:29] <tga> the deskbar displays info instantly but Places > Search just sits there and does nothing
[01:29] <zim> try sudo bash first
[01:29] <ClapBedon> im root
[01:29] <ClapBedon> sudo -s
[01:29] <enyc> Crescendo: you about?
[01:29] <Warbo> shadowpanda: After you have saved it run "sudo apt-get update" then run "sudo m-a" again
[01:30] <Warbo> ClapBedon: Use "sudo -s -H" or "sudo -i"
[01:30] <erUSUL> tga: it works for me. i place a string in the text box hit enter and voila! results
[01:30] <ClapBedon> warbo : what's the difference?
[01:30] <tga> maybe it's still indexing or something
[01:30] <shadowpanda> Warbo: ok it is open
[01:30] <Warbo> ClapBedon: Otherwise if you run a GUI app you may end up overwriting your config files with root-owned ones
[01:31] <ClapBedon> warbo : thanks for the tip
[01:31] <Warbo> shadowpanda: OK, select>nvidia>get>build>install
[01:31] <ClapBedon> zim : i got it working :)
[01:31] <zim> thats why i use sudo bash
[01:31] <zim> how
[01:31] <tdn> !codecs
[01:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:31] <ClapBedon> zim : my /dev/fuse was not created correctly
[01:31] <Warbo> zim: "sudo bash" "sudo su" "sudo -s -H" "sudo -i" "sudo sh" there are loads
[01:31] <zim> kewl
[01:31] <tich> is there some place i can get info on how to set up a network between a linux and osx?
[01:31] <ClapBedon> yay! :)
[01:32] <tdn> !startupfiles
[01:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about startupfiles
[01:32] <tdn> !startup
[01:32] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[01:32] <ClapBedon> thanks for your help, it's really appreciated
[01:32] <tdn> How do I install scripts that startup in /etc/init.d?
[01:32] <shadowpanda> Warbo: and here I thought i would have to brush up on my c++ skills
[01:32] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[01:32] <Warbo> tdn: Put the script in there then read the manual for "update-rc.d"
[01:33] <shadowpanda> Warbo: im done
[01:33] <Warbo> shadowpanda: It is installed?
[01:33] <shadowpanda> Warbo: it is
[01:33] <dibblego> man mount: Options are specified with a -o flag followed by a  comma  separated  string of options. - what if the option value itself contains a comma?
[01:33] <Warbo> shadowpanda: OK, last step: "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:34] <tdn> Warbo, hmm... Ok. There is no pages on this in the Ubuntu Desktop Guide?
[01:34] <Warbo> dibblego: What option did you have in mind?
[01:34] <Warbo> tdn: No idea
[01:34] <dibblego> Warbo, "username=blah,password=my,password"
[01:34] <shadowpanda> Warbo: ok it is open
[01:34] <zim> another long way but is useful if you use keys is to add you key to root .ssh/authorized_keys then in usr/local/bin add a bash script called root in there have this line ssh -l root 127.0.0.1
[01:35] <Warbo> dibblego: Maybe ther is an escape character for it. I know there is one to let you use spaces (in fstab I mean)
[01:35] <zim> then if you want to be root just type root
[01:35] <Drasla> if I put an entry in inetd.conf, how do I load it?
[01:35] <dibblego> Warbo, I tried , and \ as escape characters - can't think of what else
[01:35] <Warbo> shadowpanda: Look for the "Section "Device"" which has "driver "nv"" in it
[01:35] <tdn> Warbo, ok.
[01:36] <zim> replace nv with nvidia
[01:36] <Warbo> zim: You stole my glory!
[01:36] <shadowpanda> Zim: was that message to me?
[01:36] <zim> sorry
[01:36] <unstablesob> dibblego, does that happen to be for mounting a smb share?
[01:36] <Warbo> shadowpanda: Yeah
[01:36] <shadowpanda> Warbo:/Zim: thank you is that all?
[01:37] <dibblego> unstablesob, yes
[01:37] <unstablesob> dibblego, i know that you can use a separate file for the credentials
[01:37] <Warbo> shadowpanda: Yes. Save it then log out, press ctrl-alt-backspace and you should be up
[01:37] <Warbo> shadowpanda: WAIT
[01:37] <shadowpanda> ok
[01:37] <unstablesob> dibblego,  use the the option "credentials=file"
[01:37] <Warbo> shadowpanda: You may want to add a line "nvidia" to /etc/modules
[01:37] <dibblego> ok thanks
[01:38] <shadowpanda> Warbo: and how would one go about doing that?
[01:38] <unstablesob> dibblego, then in the credentials file use the form of "username=name" "password="pass" on separate lines
[01:38] <Warbo> shadowpanda: "gksudo gedit /etc/modules"
[01:38] <zim> shadowpanda make sure that your default colour depth is 24
[01:38] <Warbo> zim: Is that needed?
[01:39] <shadowpanda> Warbo: well i just hope the rest of my drivers dont take this long
[01:40] <Warbo> shadowpanda: It's just because Nvidia haven't made it Free
[01:40] <zim> dont know but in all the howtos i read they went out of there way to say it so in true parot fashion
[01:40] <Warbo> Is the Intel graphics driver in the kernel made by Intel originally or not?
[01:40] <shadowpanda> Warbo: oh also, how do i check the color debth
[01:40] <theeil> how do i switch x servers?
[01:40] <ToHellWithGA> I need help with LabView.  Any scientists in here?
[01:40] <Warbo> shadowpanda: The "Screen" section
[01:41] <cocox> somebody can log into "telnet drill.hackerslab.org" as they require?? login:level0 and pass:guest ?????
[01:41] <zim> in xorg.conf near the bottom i think
[01:41] <Warbo> theeil: Switch between active ones, ctrl-alt-fX, switch the installed one, ther are only XGL and Xorg in Ubuntu by default
[01:41] <shadowpanda> Warbo: screen resolution
[01:41] <shadowpanda> ?
[01:42] <zim> just / for 24 is probably set anyway
[01:42] <Warbo> shadowpanda: It has the resolutions for each depth, and the "Server" section says which I think
[01:42] <zim> look for the default
[01:42] <zim> on top of that i thinkj
[01:43] <shadowpanda> oh
[01:43] <shadowpanda> ok
[01:43] <shadowpanda> good bye
[01:43] <Warbo> zim: You like to make it compilcated don't you. You want to make sure he has BackingStore enabled? How about Composite? :)
[01:43] <zim> have you played withb it
[01:44] <Warbo> zim: Both of them, yeah
[01:44] <varsendaggr> hey i have a .ps now what?
[01:44] <varsendaggr> what can i edit it with?
[01:44] <varsendaggr> and how can i add templates to the rightclick menu
[01:44] <tach00> any one know where to get keyboard drivers for ubuntu?
[01:45] <SonicChao> !keyboard
[01:45] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[01:45] <cocox> somebody can log into "telnet drill.hackerslab.org" as they require?? login:level0 and pass:guest ?????
[01:45] <sysrpl> i am having problems compiling glibc ... i am using ../glibc-2.4/configure --prefix=/usr --disable-profile --enable-add-ons --enable-kernel=2.6.0 --libexecdir=/usr/lib/glibc ,,, and then make, but make fails with *** No rule to make target `Versions.all', needed by `abi-versions.h'.  Stop.
[01:45] <Warbo> tach00: No idea, but while you are looking you will probably want Xorg drivers (that is what handles the keyboard)
[01:45] <sysrpl> can anyone help me with that?
[01:46] <tach00> warbo: thanks, sometimes my keyboard and mouse go crazy, figure its a driver issue
[01:46] <Shizboom> How do i use a "make" and "sudo make install" command? when i try using make it doesn't recognize that
[01:46] <Bassetts> i hate the powers of life, i have to use windows =(
[01:46] <Bassetts> i thought i escaped it
[01:47] <SurfnKid> you CAN escape it
[01:47] <Warbo> Shizboom: 1) "sudo apt-get install build-depends" 2) use "sudo checkinstall -D" not make install
[01:47] <SurfnKid> I did and Im happy
[01:47] <landsg> erUSUL/Warbo:  I brought up my log file in vim; what should I be looking for to get x working again?
[01:47] <Warbo> Shizboom: What am I on?! build-essential
[01:47] <Shizboom> so make doesn't work?
[01:47] <Shizboom> i'm trying to install this
[01:47] <Shizboom> http://gnusticker.sourceforge.net/
[01:48] <Warbo> Shizboom: Yes, but you need to install it by installing build-essential. But checkinstall will make an Ubuntu package for your program, which makes it easier to uninstall and stuff
[01:48] <erUSUL> landsg: look for any error msgs or hints as why X wont come up. search from the end of the file backwards (it is easier with less)
[01:48] <Shizboom> okay so what do i need to do
[01:49] <Warbo> Shizboom: "sudo apt-get install build-essential && ./configure && make && checkinstall -D"
[01:49] <Warbo> Usually
[01:49] <mag_> !w32codecs
[01:49] <ubotu> w32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[01:49] <ttyfscker> on my dell inspiron 6000 my front panel volume / multimedia keys work fine w/ gnome, but in xfce they dont work.. does anybody know how to get them working in xfce4.4?
[01:50] <Shizboom> okay i'm installing now
[01:50] <landsg> k
[01:50] <Shizboom> once i get this what is my next step warbo?
[01:50] <Shizboom> ermmm
[01:50] <Shizboom> its telling me  ./configure: No such file or directory
[01:51] <Shizboom> but it installed the rest okay
[01:51] <Warbo> Shizboom: Are you in the right directory?
[01:51] <SelfHarm> I just boot into ubuntu, first time, can't mount any drives, any ideas? im a linux novice : \
[01:51] <Warbo> !mount
[01:52] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[01:52] <akira> does anyone know how is this "control panel" called in large mainframes. i think it's terminal. from where you control the mainframe
[01:52] <Shizboom> okay its working now
[01:52] <Bassetts> SurfnKid: i cant escape windows, have to use it for work
[01:52] <Shizboom> doing all sorts of stuff
[01:52] <landsg> erUSUL: i tried to scroll in VIM , but keyboard is not working right either;  should I just try to reinstall over the top?  I really don't want to if I can avoid it
[01:53] <cocox> somebody can log into "telnet drill.hackerslab.org" as they require?? login:level0 and pass:guest ?????
[01:53] <Warbo> akira: A terminal in a mainframe is a low resource computer which logs into the mainframe
[01:53] <crogue5> when i make a file/folder in my home directory, the permissions of 755 are placed on it, so other system users can see them, how can i change the default to something else
[01:53] <Shizboom> warbo - should it be installed once this is finished?
[01:53] <crogue5> so the rest of the system users can't see them
[01:53] <Shizboom> uhoh i got an error
[01:53] <Shizboom> configure: error: could not find Python headers
[01:53] <Bassetts> SurfnKid: i have to use flash, and macdobe captivate =(
[01:53] <SurfnKid> Bassetts, something I have to as well, but the geek life has to survive in another type of environment, thats when linux comes in
[01:53] <Shizboom> do i need to install more python stuff?
[01:53] <erUSUL> landsg: try with the pager less it is easier to work with just hit end to go to end of file and then page up to navigate
[01:54] <SurfnKid> Bassetts, ouch, i hear there's probelms with Flash n linux i hope that can be resolved
[01:54] <akira> Warbo:no no i'm talking of the hardware thing. it's embedded into the mainframe, has a single lite keyboard and an lcd
[01:54] <Warbo> Shizboom: after checkinstall you will end up with a package file ending in .deb. You can do "sudo checkinstall -D --install" instead, to install it automatically, or just do "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" after
[01:54] <Bassetts> SurfnKid: i have to use macdobe captivate to make flash demos/tutorials, and they have to be done in windows
[01:54] <Warbo> Shizboom: Install the packages ending in "-dev" that look relevant
[01:54] <mcphail> crogue5: just chmod 700 your home directory.
[01:54] <Bassetts> SurfnKid: recording them in linux will confuse customers
[01:55] <Shizboom> warbo - should the deb be in the same directory?
[01:55] <cello_rasp> help! i just installed and on reboot i don't have a /boot/menu.lst file . how do i generate on in rescue mode?
[01:55] <crogue5> and everything i make in it will take those permission by default?
[01:55] <Warbo> !tell Bassetts about vmware
[01:55] <mcphail> crogue5: no, but it won't matter.
[01:55] <Warbo> Shizboom: yes
[01:55] <Shizboom> well i got no debs
[01:55] <Shizboom> and
[01:55] <Shizboom> i get this error configure: error: could not find Python headers
[01:56] <Bassetts> Warbo: yeh i currently do a vmware setup with win, not working for me, screen res and stuff too small, so im putting win on my old box that is unused
[01:56] <mcphail> crogue5: if noone can access your home directory, they cannot see files further down the tree no matter what permissions are set
[01:56] <Shizboom> i thought i installed all the python stuff
[01:56] <Warbo> cello_rasp: You wont find one in rescue mode either. Boot a LiveCD
[01:56] <tmccrary> If anyone knows, with MySQL, can I put multiple values in bind-address in my.cnf?
[01:56] <crogue5> mcphail, good point
[01:56] <crogue5> mcphail, thanks
[01:56] <mcphail> np
[01:56] <cello_rasp> Warbo, I can't run LiveCDs (bad x configs) but thatks
[01:56] <Bassetts> i wish i could take my system on holiday with me, doing work up there will be hell
[01:56] <crogue5> perfect
[01:57] <Warbo> Shizboom: The "xxxxx" packages contain the stuff needed to use "xxxxx" but "xxxxx-dev" lets you build stuff against xxxxx
[01:57] <mcphail> crogue5: note that chmoding to 750 may be better
[01:57] <Warbo> cello_rasp: You can run something like DSL with the boot option "dsl 2" to get text mode
[01:57] <Shizboom> Shizboom - okay so i need to get the dev packages?
[01:57] <Shizboom> err to warbo :P
[01:58] <Warbo> Shizboom: yes, any that look like you might need them
[01:58] <crogue5> mcphail, so people in my group can see them, but other users in other groups can't?
[01:59] <mcphail> crogue5: yes. The other option is to change your umask (which is set to 022 as default i think)
[01:59] <nocti> hello
[01:59] <cello_rasp> can anyone tell me how to make a menu.lst without downloading another install cd
[01:59] <nocti> how do i view my ntfs partition? im using breezy. thanks
[01:59] <Warbo> !mount
[01:59] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[01:59] <crogue5> where do i change that, i think that's what i was getting at
[02:00] <kuzmaster> hello all
[02:00] <tdn> Why does Ubuntu use a log timestamp format like this: [17193999.700000]  ? I prefer the "regular" one.
[02:00] <Warbo> !ntfs
[02:00] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[02:00] <mcphail> crogue5: just add it to .bash_profile
[02:00] <Turki> Hi everyone, I tried to install Ubuntu on my Acer TravelMate 4150 but the installer can't find the CD-ROM, then I tried Debian and it worked. My question is: Ubuntu installer is based on Debian installer, why can't it find the CD-ROM?
[02:00] <mcphail> crogue5: but this won't affect any files you have created already
[02:01] <daph> Do I have to do anything special to have Ubuntu 6.06 LTS work with my Compaq laptop w/ a broadcom wireless chipset? I was told that Ubuntu worked OOTB with this chipset and wondering if I missed something
[02:01] <crogue5> ok thanks
[02:01] <kuzmaster> can somone please help me with getting my wireless connection working
[02:01] <Warbo> !wireless
[02:01] <kuzmaster> i have a dlink wireless card (RaLink chipset), and it worked out of the box for kubuntu 6.06, but not for ubuntu 6.06
[02:01] <ubotu> wifi is Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[02:01] <Shizboom> Warbo - do i need to do the "--prefix=/usr " after configure?
[02:02] <Sasquatch> how do you restart x in ubuntu?
[02:02] <kuzmaster> ive tried all the documentation
[02:02] <Warbo> Shizboom: Maybe. It is usually better to install stuff in /usr/local though
[02:02] <dibblego> Sasquatch, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:02] <Warbo> Sasquatch: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:02] <kuzmaster> ive tried setting it to dhcp, static ip address, ive tried "
[02:03] <Shizboom> Warbo - what do you know about bonobo server? will it be able to reach the program in /usr?
[02:03] <kuzmaster> oops. ive tried "sudo iwconfig essid ANY", along with other things
[02:03] <Turki> Hi everyone, I tried to install Ubuntu on my Acer TravelMate 4150 but the installer can't find the CD-ROM, then I tried Debian and it worked. My question is: Ubuntu installer is based on Debian installer, why can't it find the CD-ROM?
[02:03] <TheWarden> What kind of hardware does one need to run Ubuntu?
[02:03] <Warbo> Shizboom: Not much. If you want to install to /usr then it should be OK, especially with checkinstall
[02:03] <Shizboom> okay
[02:03] <OnurPhp> how can install mysql-php package ?
[02:03] <bb3> how do I see which files make a up package?
[02:03] <OnurPhp> in offline mode ?
[02:03] <nocti> TheWarden: usual off-the-shelf pc hardware works
[02:04] <cocox> hi, i already have installed java jre 1.4-2.... even. when i got an applet into firefox i can't see it... i have breezy dist....
[02:04] <Warbo> TheWarden: a PC, Mac, SPARC, PegasOS, it works on quite a bit
[02:04] <TheWarden> The reason I ask is because I tired to run Ubuntu before and now tried to use Edubuntu and neither will work.
[02:04] <kuzmaster> if you want the output of lspci, lsmod, and my /ect/network/interfaces for kubuntu and ubuntu, just ask cos ive already put them in pastbin
[02:04] <OnurPhp> cocox try update it :)
[02:04] <nocti> TheWarden: what's your hardware like?
[02:04] <cocox> OnurPhp, do u know the apt command for update java ?
[02:04] <Warbo> cocox: Intalled the -mozilla package of it?
[02:04] <TheWarden> I figured so... the video I think is where I'm having problems but not sure. I have two video cards in my system and two monitors.
[02:04] <kuzmaster> i really need this to work. so ANY help at all is absolutly needed
[02:04] <Sasquatch> hmm, how do i implement custom resolutions in Gnome?
[02:04] <cocox> Warbo, dun know ... :( how can i do that ?
[02:04] <OnurPhp> no :)
[02:05] <nocti> TheWarden: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:05] <cocox> Warbo, you mean the plugin ?
[02:05] <Warbo> cocox: "sudo apt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla" I think
[02:05] <Turki> Hi everyone, I tried to install Ubuntu on my Acer TravelMate 4150 but the installer can't find the CD-ROM, then I tried Debian and it worked. My question is: Ubuntu installer is based on Debian installer, why can't it find the CD-ROM?
[02:06] <TheWarden> nocti: I have an Intel 865 Chipset board, Motherboard is a Shuttle AB60, 1.4 GBs of RAM, 370 GB of hard drive space, NVIDIA GeForece 2 MX/400 and the other a Diamond Stealth III, Savage 4 chipset... old video card but just for the second monitor.
[02:07] <nocti> TheWarden: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:07] <TheWarden> nocti: looking at it... not sure if it will help.. cause if it's listed still won't explain why it won't boot.
[02:07] <jilocasin> 'evening all
[02:07] <pyrobob`> how do I get soundcards
[02:07] <pyrobob`> -s
[02:07] <pyrobob`> drivers
[02:07] <eugman> Why the $%&! is gnome-cups-icon trying to use up all of my cpu?
[02:08] <Warbo> pyrobob`: Search for ALSA in Google. It is already installed in Ubuntu though
[02:08] <Gun_Smoke> What is out there for weather apps?
[02:08] <TheWarden> Yeah my videocard is listed there.. but it loads... almost.. gets towards the end I think and switches to a blank screen with a cursor blinking... then stays there...
[02:08] <mjr> 24
[02:08] <mjr> oops
[02:08] <andy-> whos got a link for dapper depository?
[02:08] <pyrobob`> Warbo: I already have that, but there is no sound driver for my card
[02:08] <Warbo> Gun_Smoke: gkrellm, gdesklets, karamba, superkaramba
[02:08] <nocti> TheWarden: tried using just one of your monitors first?
[02:08] <andy-> !dapper
[02:08] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[02:08] <pyrobob`> Warbo: and alsaconf can't detect it....
[02:08] <TheWarden> I do notice that it doesn't support my second video card, maybe it's trying to use it instead of the main one. How can I make sure/know what one it's using?
[02:08] <Gun_Smoke> Warbo:  What do you recomend?
[02:09] <Warbo> pyrobob`: What version of Ubuntu are you on?>
[02:09] <pyrobob`> the one before dapper
[02:09] <nocti> TheWarden: what's the actual message on install failure anyway? ever tried installed just server first?
[02:09] <TheWarden> nocti: well I guess that sucks.. gonna have to remove the video card too then I guess..argh. If it works great but then what... how can I get it to work with it as it is now?
[02:09] <Warbo> Gun_Smoke: GNOME>Gdesklets, KDE>Karamba, Neither>Gkrellm
[02:09] <TheWarden> nocti: there is no failure.. for now I'm just trying to use the Live CD image... burnt fine.
[02:10] <Warbo> pyrobob`: Really? I didn't think alsaconf did anything on Breezy
[02:10] <TheWarden> nocti: never tried server...
[02:10] <jilocasin> Q: Is ubuntu a decent distro for programmers?
[02:10] <Gun_Smoke> Warbo:  Thanks
[02:10] <lophyte> jilocasin: Ubuntu? :P
[02:10] <nocti> TheWarden: ah.... so the live cd wont work?
[02:10] <Warbo> jilocasin: It has the IDEs and stuff that Debian has
[02:10] <pyrobob`> Warbo: they removed it, but I got a copy of it, and it didn't work
[02:10] <eugman> Gnome-cups-icon is trying to devour my cpu. Any ideas why?
[02:10] <jackrazz> hey everyone.
[02:10] <kuzmaster> help anyone?
[02:11] <jackrazz> jilo, mono works good.
[02:11] <jilocasin> Warbo: Where?
[02:11] <Warbo> pyrobob`: I don't know then. The drivers are part of the Linux kernel, so maybe an upgrade might get it working?
[02:11] <Warbo> jilocasin: In Synaptic/aptitude
[02:11] <jilocasin> ok.
[02:11] <TheWarden> nocti: correct.. as I describe above... it loads to the startup screen.. I start it... done it in safe mode and normal... and both end up laoding fine at least appears that way... then towards the end the screen changes to blank... with a blinking cursor and then just stays there.
[02:11] <kuzmaster> ive tried doing a fresh install, but that diddnt help at all
[02:11] <pyrobob`> Warbo: you mean like, upgrade alsa, or ubuntu
[02:12] <Warbo> pyrobob`: Ubuntu
[02:12] <poemi-chan> hello immense hoarde of people
[02:12] <Warbo> pyrobob`: It's the best way to get a new kernel
[02:12] <kuzmaster> so, can any one at all help me, i really need this to work
[02:12] <nocti> TheWarden: tried other live distros on your box? must be the X config.
[02:13] <TheWarden> nocti: yeah... only had one I think work... but I can't recall what one now ;-).
[02:13] <pyrobob> Warbo: is there any way to upgrade without the use of a cd burner?
[02:13] <Warbo> !upgrade
[02:13] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[02:13] <nocti> TheWarden: try starting the live cd server only and do a `lspci` to see if it detects your video
[02:14] <TheWarden> nocti: always end up with the same problem. But OpenBSD works fine, BeOS, ahh what else have I done... console based ones.. mmm
[02:14] <TheWarden> nocti: okay thanks
[02:14] <nocti> TheWarden: check also the md5sum of your ubuntu iso just to make sure
[02:15] <poemi-chan> kuzmaster: type /me does something
[02:15] <kuzmaster> k
[02:15] <TheWarden> nocti: okay thanks
[02:15] <poemi-chan> private messages are blocked because i'm not registered :/
[02:15] <kuzmaster> ohhhh, lol
[02:15] <brn> Just installed Breezy 5.10 on an 2nd hand laptop.  Trying to compile with Gcc I find I have no 'make' anywhere.  Where should I look?
[02:15] <Warbo> brn: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[02:15] <poemi-chan> so why can't there be something nice like "/etc/init.d/pm hibernate"
[02:15] <TheWarden> l8r
[02:16] <LjL> poemi-chan: there is /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh
[02:16] <nix_chix0r> i'm having difficulty connecting my linksys wireless network card in ubuntu. and i'm reading some how to's online my windoz HD and i'm not having much luck because i'  don't  know much about eh the ndswraper or what ever it's called, would any one help me on this for a bit?
[02:16] <poemi-chan> ah
[02:16] <brn> Thanks Warbo,  I knew it was something like that.
[02:16] <kakalto>  I'm having a rather interesting problem with kernels - when I install the k7 kernel, I can't boot it in normal mode, but I can in recovery mode, no problems. when I disable 'quiet splash' boot options, I get all the output, and it has no errors. However, it stops at keyboard. My keyboard/mouse combo is wireless. I have two options for plugging it in - through 1 (one) USB plug, or with 2 PS/2 plugs, one for mouse, the other for keyboard. bu
[02:16] <kakalto> et the same problem. Have I been chasing a red herring, or could my wireless kb/mouse have something to do with it?
[02:17] <Shizboom> Warbo - any clue how long this usually takes to compile or w/e its doing? :D
[02:17] <kakalto> Extra note: I can boot the -386 kernel fine
[02:17] <Shizboom> okay new error
[02:17] <Shizboom> bash: checkinstall: command not found
[02:17] <LjL> Shizboom: sudo aptitude install checkinstall
[02:17] <dr_willis> kakalto,  odd.. ive never had any issues with these wireless things.. try a normal keybopard/mouse to double check I guess.
[02:17] <landsg> erUSUL:  OK.  Got my editor to finally scroll to the bottom of Xorg log file;  there is an error message: screens found, but none have a usable configuratio.  Fatal error:  no screens found
[02:17] <Shizboom> yup
[02:17] <Shizboom> :D
[02:17] <Shizboom> did it!
[02:17] <LjL> Shizboom: how long it takes to compile depends entirely on what you are compiling, as well as on computer
[02:18] <cartesian1984> LjL, does aptitude have any advantages over apt-get?
[02:18] <LjL> !aptitude
[02:18] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[02:18] <kakalto> dr_willis: duh. why didn't I think of doing that. Will try. I'll just see if I get any other answers first =)
[02:18] <Warbo> cartesian1984: run it with no options and see
[02:18] <erUSUL> landsg: and the dpkg-reconfigure did not help you the last time you tried, didn't it?
[02:19] <cartesian1984> Warbo, oh, I knew about that, just asking about the more CLIish implementation of it.
[02:19] <landsg> right, same error message
[02:19] <eugman> Any solutions to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-cups-manager/+bug/44196 ? It's VERY annoying.
[02:19] <Warbo> cartesian1984: Maybe with remove it is better, since it tends to get rid of orphaned stuff more
[02:20] <cartesian1984> Warbo, ah. Thanks.
[02:20] <Mnabil> hello guys , i installed openssh-server  , when i  /etc/init.d/ssh start ....  it fails
[02:20] <Shizboom> Warbo - if i get upto checkinstall does that usually mean the program will run?
[02:20] <Mnabil> anybody can help
[02:20] <LjL> Warbo: well, it's easy to get rid of it "more", when the counterparts don't get rid of it at all ;)
[02:20] <amonkey> hey #ubuntu, what's your favorite linux torrent client?
[02:20] <dr_willis> !ask
[02:20] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:20] <nix_chix0r> yea, so questions on ubuntu, and how to set up linksys  wireless g pci adapter.. bound to be some one in here who has an idea because the stuff i read isnt much help
[02:20] <mjr> rtorrent
[02:20] <dr_willis> amonkey,  depends onm your needs. :)
[02:20] <erUSUL> landsg: can you post your xorg.conf in pastebin?
[02:20] <landsg> how
[02:21] <LjL> !pastebin
[02:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:21] <amonkey> dr_willis, multiple torrents, some sort of intelligent seeding
[02:21] <dr_willis> amonkey,  that would be most all of them then. :P
[02:22] <wrathlo> hello
[02:22] <Mnabil> hello guys , i installed openssh-server  , when i  /etc/init.d/ssh start ....  it fails ,  anybody can help me ?!
[02:22] <nix_chix0r> bahhhhhhh.......... networking any one :\ don't be shy
[02:22] <mahnamahna> :)
[02:22] <amonkey> dr_willis, not to be rude,  but that's really less than helpful. i was just looking for a nice torrent app cuz azureus was pissing me off and utorrent doesn't run under linux nicely
[02:22] <wrathlo> i am using the 5.10 version of ubuntu and i am currently downloading the updates
[02:23] <dr_willis> amonkey,  go get ktorrent then and have a blast.
[02:23] <dr_willis> !torrent
[02:23] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt) Bittorent faq: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[02:23] <amonkey> thanks
[02:23] <nix_chix0r> azureus doesn't work that great on lnux anyway imo
[02:23] <nix_chix0r> linux*
[02:23] <nix_chix0r> usually it's slower
[02:23] <dr_willis> amonkey,  or rtorrent for console ussage
[02:23] <kuzmaster> can any one at all help me?
[02:23] <nix_chix0r> ktorrent isn't that bad
[02:23] <wrathlo> once i get the downloads, will my system be the same as that of the 6.06 version?
[02:23] <erUSUL> !wifi > nix_chix0r
[02:23] <amonkey> dr_willis, thankyou
[02:23] <dr_willis> I do like ktorrent.
[02:23] <pyrobob> how do I get gtk+-2.0
[02:23] <kuzmaster> cos if i cant get it to work, i will just have to try another distro
[02:23] <Warbo> Shizboom: After "make" the program is usually runnable from where it is (although if it includes libraries these may need to be installed first with checkinstall)
[02:23] <dr_willis> on my file server i let it run rtorrent for weeks on end. :P
[02:24] <LjL> pyrobob: it comes with ubuntu. it's actually what Gnome is based upon.
[02:24] <nix_chix0r> erUSUL, , yea i suppose................. hey could you help me with my wireless issues/ubuntu?
[02:24] <erUSUL> !wifi
[02:24] <ubotu> wifi is Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[02:24] <nix_chix0r> heh
[02:24] <landsg> erUSUL:  I can't get anything out of my desktop machine;  I am using my laptop to type this
[02:24] <nix_chix0r> screwdocumentation
[02:24] <kuzmaster> erUSUL, ive already looked at all the documentation, they diddnt help, but can you help me?
[02:24] <nix_chix0r> i'd like real assistance
[02:25] <Drasla> I'm trying to run vsftpd through inetd.  the only problem, is I need to create the folder /var/run/vsftpd before vsftpd can be run, and I don't think I can include a mkdir in the inetd.conf file.  anyone know how to do this?
[02:25] <roostishaw> what command can i put in the devilspie .ds file to make it so that the matched window wont minimize when i click the 'show desktop' button?
[02:25] <amonkey> is there a way to disable the gnome menu's from scrolling?
[02:25] <pyrobob> LjL: then how come I cant make airfart due to:
[02:25] <kuzmaster> nix_chix0r, same
[02:25] <pyrobob> g++ -g `pkg-config gtk+-2.0 --cflags` -o src/main.o -c src/main.cpp
[02:25] <pyrobob> Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[02:25] <pyrobob> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
[02:25] <Mnabil> hello guys , i installed openssh-server  , when i  /etc/init.d/ssh start ....  it fails ,   anybody can the HELL help me
[02:25] <nix_chix0r> kuzmaster,  i've read as much as i could tolerate fromthis so called"documentation"
[02:25] <Drasla> Mnabil: what error does it give?
[02:25] <erUSUL> nix_chix0r: i can help with general questions but wifi in linux is very dependant on the driver/card you are using.
[02:25] <kuzmaster> nix_chix0r, same
[02:25] <LjL> pyrobob: do you have the GTK *development* packages? you need *development* packages (i.e. headers) to compile
[02:26] <Mnabil>  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail] 
[02:26] <dr_willis> wireless in general - is a real mess - even under windows. :()
[02:26] <nix_chix0r> kuzmaster,  i have a stupid linksys network card for a desktop, and i've never had the chance to try to install it or use it on linux because my crap was all borked
[02:26] <Mnabil> Drasla,  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail] 
[02:26] <kuzmaster> lol
[02:26] <pyrobob> LjL: yeah, thats what I meant, where do I get those
[02:26] <Drasla> Mnabil: try running just 'sshd -v
[02:26] <Drasla> '
[02:26] <kuzmaster> nix_chix0r, what chipset is it?
[02:26] <Drasla> Mnabil: see what it says
[02:26] <LjL> pyrobob: libgtk2.0-dev
[02:27] <LjL> pyrobob: and please have a look at...
[02:27] <LjL> !build-essential
[02:27] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:27] <nix_chix0r> pishh let me look
[02:27] <roostishaw> what command can i put in the devilspie .ds file to make it so that the matched window wont minimize when i click the 'show desktop' button?
[02:27] <Shizboom> Warbo - mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/share/doc/GNUsTicker': Permission denied is what i get once it starts up the checkinstall
[02:27] <Mnabil> Drasla, sshd: illegal option -- v
[02:27] <Mnabil> OpenSSH_4.2p1 Debian-7ubuntu3, OpenSSL 0.9.8a 11 Oct 2005
[02:27] <Mnabil> usage: sshd [-46Ddeiqt]  [-b bits]  [-f config_file]  [-g login_grace_time] 
[02:27] <Mnabil>             [-h host_key_file]  [-k key_gen_time]  [-o option]  [-p port]  [-u len] 
[02:28] <LjL> !pastebin
[02:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:28] <Drasla> Mnabil: sorry, wrong command.  try 'sudo sshd -e'.
[02:28] <Alphax> !shipit
[02:28] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org
[02:28] <Warbo> Shizboom: "sudo checkinstall -D --install"
[02:28] <nix_chix0r> kuzmaster, PCI\VEN_1814&DEV_0201&SUBSYS_00321737&REV_01\4&3A33F01C&0&68F0
[02:28] <nix_chix0r>         is the device instance id, the model number is WMP54G
[02:29] <gnomefreak> Warbo: whats the -D parameter do?
[02:29] <cello_rasp> how do i install from the cd rather than the net?
[02:29] <Mnabil> Drasla, sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path
[02:29] <kuzmaster> nix_chix0r, ok......
[02:29] <Dimitris> Anyone gotten the modem on a dell inspiron 6000 to work?
[02:29] <erUSUL> nix_chix0r: lspci will give you the chip of the wireless
[02:29] <nocti> i get failed to open dvd://1
[02:30] <nix_chix0r> erUSUL, ea well........let me just oh i dont know reboot to find out..........
[02:30] <Drasla> Mnabil: sounds to me like it's already running.  have you tried '/etc/init.d/ssh restart'?
[02:30] <erpo> How do I build an initramfs image so that my kernel can have the cool ubuntu graphical boot?
[02:30] <erUSUL> nix_chix0r: lspaci in a terminal
[02:31] <nix_chix0r> k
[02:31] <Shizboom> Warbo - okay i think it installed - but
[02:31] <Shizboom> Warbo - i see it added to my panel options but when i add it nothing happens
[02:32] <Mnabil> Drasla, thanx
[02:32] <Drasla> Mnabil: np
[02:32] <kakalto> kernel boot options 'noapic nolapic' do exactly what? I can't boot my -k7 kernel with those options, but I can boot the -386 kernel with them.
[02:32] <nocti> i get failed to open dvd://1
[02:32] <nocti> i get failed to open dvd://1
[02:32] <nocti> i get failed to open dvd://1
[02:33] <gnomefreak> nocti: please dont repeat
[02:33] <nocti> gnomefreak: i installed the libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 and still dvd wont play
[02:34] <gnomefreak> nocti: did you do the regoin set?
[02:34] <nix_chix0r> erUSUL, , RaLink RT25000 is the chipset i think
[02:34] <nocti> gnomefreak: yes
[02:34] <gnomefreak> nocti: is your dvd drive mounted?
[02:34] <erUSUL> nix_chix0r: it is the same chipset as mine. you are lucky ;)
[02:34] <nix_chix0r> erUSUL,  that chip set is suppported
[02:34] <nix_chix0r> so i wont need the eh ndwisrapaperrer thing
[02:35] <erUSUL> nix_chix0r: no
[02:35] <kuzmaster> well then if no one will help me, ill just replace ubuntu with suse
[02:35] <nix_chix0r> haha kuzmaster  i could have told you to do that already
[02:35] <erUSUL> nix_chix0r: i will post the stanza i have in /etc/network/interfaces to a pastebin. is for wpa. hold on
[02:35] <nix_chix0r> only reason i installed ubuntu is becausemy system went borked and thats the onlyt hing that would install
[02:35] <nix_chix0r> ok
[02:35] <nix_chix0r> thanks
[02:35] <kuzmaster> nix_chix0r, lol
[02:36] <landsg> can i install dapper over breezy and still recover my data files?
[02:36] <phunkalicious> how come when i installed sun-j2re-1.5 from the repos, java --version shows as 1.4.2? :|
[02:36] <gnomefreak> landsg: just upgrade?
[02:36] <nix_chix0r> man
[02:36] <nocti> gnomefreak: i think i need totem-xine not gstreamer
[02:36] <landsg> i tried upgrade, but x doesn't work
[02:36] <gnomefreak> phunkalicious: did you run sudo update-alternatives --config java?
[02:36] <nix_chix0r> i have a little note pad to write down how to get connected in ubuntu hahahah
[02:36] <nocti> gnomefreak: sorry for the trouble
[02:36] <phunkalicious> no i did not :O
[02:36] <roostishaw> what command can i put in the devilspie .ds file to make it so that the matched window wont minimize when i click the 'show desktop' button?
[02:36] <EnCh4nt3r> Hello! I get a scrambled list of files and lots of question marks when I open a DVD... what can cause that? Here is a screenshot of how that looks like http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=slika13fx.jpg
[02:37] <phunkalicious> i did not know sorry, i will try that now.
[02:37] <gnomefreak> phunkalicious: its ok
[02:37] <gnomefreak> dont be sorry for what you dont know
[02:37] <SelfHarm> ran livecd, chose install off the desktop, its been stuck on step 3, chose keyboard, for about 3o minutes now. has the working icon. anyone else get this problem during install?
[02:37] <Shizboom> if i try to add something to a gnome panel and it doesn't add is there a way to get some debug info, like a terminal feedback?
[02:38] <landsg> gnomefreak:  should I just try to upgrade again?  don't know if X will work again or not
[02:38] <phunkalicious> it gave me 3 alterinatves but the j2re1.5-sun/bin/java says it can't create the virtual machine :/
[02:38] <gnomefreak> SelfHarm: livecd has alot of problems please try from alternative cd
[02:38] <SelfHarm> roger that gf
[02:38] <gnomefreak> phunkalicious: hmmmmm it wont let you choose that number?
[02:38] <phunkalicious> no it let me choose it but it dies when doing a --version
[02:39] <gnomefreak> phunkalicious: java -verson
[02:39] <gnomefreak> java -version
[02:39] <erUSUL> nix_chix0r: put something like this in your /etc/network/interfaces. put your passphrase and ESSID. http://pastebin.ca/83721
[02:39] <gnomefreak> only 1 - not 2 ;)
[02:39] <phunkalicious> oh sweet i guess it did work, thanks gnomefreak
[02:39] <Alphax> EnCh4nt3r, looks like it was created under Windows.
[02:40] <phunkalicious> now if i do the firefox plugin it will use that version right?
[02:40] <gnomefreak> yw phunkalicious btw you can set a bunch of defaults with the command
[02:40] <gnomefreak> phunkalicious: you cant set plugins with that
[02:40] <EnCh4nt3r> Alphax, yes it was.
[02:40] <phunkalicious> sweet thanks
[02:40] <gnomefreak> phunkalicious: hint sudo update-alternatives --all
[02:40] <gnomefreak> ;)
[02:40] <landsg> anybody know how I can get X to work again?
[02:40] <roostishaw> what command can i put in the devilspie .ds file to make it so that the matched window wont minimize when i click the 'show desktop' button?
[02:41] <EnCh4nt3r> Alphax, also, some dvds are ok and some are not. But the interesting thing is that the dvds that show like this sometimes work... :/
[02:41] <gnomefreak> landsg: change the drivers to point to vesa
[02:41] <phunkalicious> oh kewl
[02:41] <cbotar> i just emerged kubuntu and windows wont start
[02:41] <dr_willis> 0_o
[02:41] <gnomefreak> cbotar: are you on gentoo?
[02:41] <landsg> gnomefreak:  I tried the VESA driver; didn't work 1st time, but I will try again
[02:41] <jrandomhacker> cbotar, first, that's a feature. Second, try #kubuntu
[02:42] <gnomefreak> landsg: that is without knowing anything about your issue
[02:42] <cbotar> i just got 5 free cd's so i wanted to install it well the other 4 i used to make holders for my frenchfries that look like the micky d's ones
[02:42] <jchico> hello, can anyone help me with an error I'm getting while trying to use World of Warcraft with Wine?
[02:42] <cbotar> oh ok
[02:42] <cbotar> thanks
[02:42] <landsg> right;  i just tried to upgrade to dapper from breezy; now x is not working
[02:42] <gnomefreak> !wow
[02:42] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[02:42] <gnomefreak> jchico: ^^^ try there
[02:42] <jchico> okay, thanks
[02:42] <gnomefreak> jchico: or !wine
[02:43] <gnomefreak> one of them has a section for it
[02:43] <gnomefreak> !wine
[02:43] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:43] <crogue5> do yourself a favor and just use cedega
[02:43] <crogue5> much easier and worth the $5
[02:44] <shadowpanda> Warbo: are you here?
[02:44] <nocti> gnomefreak: mplayer says "can't open dvd://1" what do i need to look up to fix this? thanks
[02:44] <gnomefreak> !restricted
[02:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:44] <gnomefreak> nocti: thats all i can help you with i dont use pc for dvds
[02:45] <nix_chix0r> do what erUSUL
[02:46] <erUSUL> nix_chix0r: put something like this in your /etc/network/interfaces. put your passphrase and ESSID. http://pastebin.ca/83721
[02:46] <phunkalicious> oh wow that's cool, i can highlight an mp3 and it plays :O
[02:47] <eduten> hi I want to connect to internet via ADSL can anybody give me some assistance?
[02:47] <nocti> gnomefreak: ah ok, thanks dude
[02:47] <erUSUL> nix_chix0r: edit the file and add what i have posted changin channel password and essid to suit your needs
[02:47] <skypa> eduten, fire up a terminal and type "sudo pppoeconf"
[02:47] <skypa> should be self-explaining from there
[02:47] <canute> Hi there. I'm trying to figure out my tv-out for my radeon card, the funny thing is that it works in the safemode thingy but it doesn't work when i start it normally
[02:48] <eduten> thanks I will try that
[02:48] <matthew_w> I'm having a problem with sound - my Bass comes out LOUD AND SCRATCHY, which didn't happen when I had breezy - I haven't changed anything else - is there some driver that it installed/uninstalled?
[02:48] <dribble> matthew_w: where is your PCM set in the mixer?
[02:49] <CarlFK> nix_chix0r: having trouble with WPA?
[02:49] <nix_chix0r> erUSUL,  'sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces'?
[02:49] <matthew_w> dribble, let me check
[02:49] <erUSUL> nix_chix0r: yes.
[02:49] <nix_chix0r> CarlFK,  having trouble with the network card and stuff on ubuntu
[02:50] <erUSUL> nix_chix0r: you only need the parts about wpa if you enabled it in your router or ap
[02:50] <nix_chix0r> orr name of wifi router haha
[02:50] <matthew_w> dribble; max.  But I have a huge soundsystem, which can handle this.  Also, if I set it to minimum, all it does is make everything quieter, the bassy sounds still scratch and hiss.
[02:50] <nix_chix0r> DUG
[02:50] <nix_chix0r> DUH*
[02:50] <nix_chix0r> i don't need the passphrase
[02:50] <nix_chix0r> and i just sneezed on my elbow
[02:50] <dribble> matthew_w, huh -- i'm at a loss :(
[02:51] <Shannon1> hi everyone,,
[02:51] <erUSUL> nix_chix0r: coment out the lines you do not need
[02:51] <skypa> what file is to be touched for fsck to check during next bootup?
[02:51] <Shannon1> no 1 http://pastebin.ca/83717
[02:51] <CarlFK> nix_chix0r:  look at my note at the very bottom of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[02:51] <Shannon1> no 2 http://pastebin.ca/83720
[02:51] <fire> Hey.. can anyone help me out.. I am having problems with my sound..
[02:52] <CarlFK> nix_chix0r: that may be all you need
[02:52] <Shannon1> whats the difference and why config 2 doesnt work on 6.06
[02:52] <fire> I can't figure out why.. It was working at first.. and now I seam to get nothing..
[02:52] <jrattner1> QUESTION: What is a good program that will change my gnome background using my pictures
[02:52] <landsg> gnomefreak:  VESA drivers did not work
[02:52] <erUSUL> CarlFK: it is a very specific driver that do not use wpa_supplicant
[02:53] <matthew_w> dribble - they're Mp3, could the encoder be different...?
[02:53] <nix_chix0r> CarlFK,  i'llt ry   that
[02:53] <CarlFK> erUSUL: does "network management framework" use wpa_supplicant?
[02:53] <nix_chix0r> CarlFK,  i have to get online before that works i'm told
[02:53] <Shannon1> the diferent config is to try to make mouse work on 6.06,, config 2 is from 5.10 live cd and mouse and clit on laptp works verywell
[02:54] <erUSUL> CarlFK: i think it does i calls wpa_supplicant with the values extracted from /etc/network/interfaces
[02:54] <roostishaw> what command can i put in the devilspie .ds file to make it so that the matched window wont minimize when i click the 'show desktop' button?
[02:54] <erUSUL> CarlFK: *it calls*
[02:54] <landsg> gnomefreak:  should I attempt to re-install or upgrade dapper over the top of currrent install?
[02:55] <Shizboom> What do I do to debug why a applet program i installed isn't working?
[02:55] <CarlFK> erUSUL: "network management framework" only looks to etc/network/interfaces to see what not to use - you have to disable/remove them from that file
[02:55] <AndyCooll_> landsg: the choice is yours. My personal experience was that when I upgraded I had hassles. Did a clean install and everything worked fine
[02:56] <landsg> AndyCooll:  Thanks.  The only problem is that I have some jpegs I need before I reinstall. How can I get them into my usb drive using the shell?
[02:56] <dr_willis> mount the usb stick and use the cp command to copy them over.
[02:56] <sphoo> im trying to auto mount a sata drive mount 'Disk manager" says its /dev/sdb5 and can mount it. yet when I try to add the mount to /etc/fstab or manually mount it I get device does not exist any ideas?
[02:57] <erUSUL> nix_chix0r: does the network card work now?
[02:57] <landsg> dr willis:  for some reason, i don't think ubuntu is seeing the usb stick
[02:57] <nix_chix0r> erUSUL, no i have to reboot to try that
[02:57] <nix_chix0r> but i was being told two things and i didn't want to get confused
[02:57] <dr_willis> landsg,  then you got an issue. :P plug it in/remove it - and check dmesg output - see if it shows it being added/removed
[02:57] <landsg> ok
[02:57] <barktpolar> Is it possible to use different desktop enviroments with ubuntu?
[02:58] <someothernick> barktpolar: yes
[02:58] <XrekcaH> *_* Are There Wireless Finders Like kismet That Work With ndiswrapper??? *_*
[02:58] <eekrano> anyone using xgl?
[02:58] <AndyCooll_> landsg: try "ls /media
[02:58] <AndyCooll_> landsg: what's in there?
[02:58] <landsg> ok
[02:59] <roostishaw> what command can i put in the devilspie .ds file to make it so that the matched window wont minimize when i click the 'show desktop' button?
[02:59] <CarlFK> nix_chix0r: my stuff is pretty shaky - hold off on it until last :)
[02:59] <landsg> i get cdrom, floppy, scsi, abd1
[02:59] <AndyCooll_> landsg: any mention of your usb stick?
[02:59] <landsg> sorry, last one is sbd1
[02:59] <nix_chix0r> lol
[02:59] <nix_chix0r> ok CarlFK
[02:59] <erUSUL> nix_chix0r: i have the exact same card as you and it works with the configuration i gave you. i extracted the conf from official ubuntu docs wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500
[02:59] <landsg> is sdb1 the usb stick
[02:59] <Dr4g> A nix chickz0r... sweet :o)
[03:00] <Shannon1> can anyone tell me the differrence on 2 xorg config in reference to a non working mouse,, http://pastebin.ca/83717 and http://pastebin.ca/83720
[03:00] <jimm1> hey
[03:00] <nix_chix0r> ooooooooooh you nkow what, erUSUL  i went to system admi, and networking
[03:00] <nix_chix0r> and that never loaded
[03:00] <nix_chix0r> lol
[03:00] <Shannon1> Id like to know why config 2 doesnt work on 6.06
[03:00] <nix_chix0r> so maybe i have to do what CarlFK  said
[03:00] <barktpolar> and does anyone know a lot about alsaconf?
[03:01] <AndyCooll_> landsg: not sure. If you "ls /media/sbd1" is there anything in the results which suggests it's your usb stick?
[03:01] <roostishaw> what command can i put in the devilspie .ds file to make it so that the matched window wont minimize when i click the 'show desktop' button?
[03:01] <AdamG> question: if I edit fstab, it won't take effect until the next restart, right?
[03:01] <nix_chix0r> erUSUL, , also this isn't my network ;) its some schmuck in the complex
[03:01] <erUSUL> Shannon1: they use to different protocols for mouse ones uses imp/ps2 the other explorer/ps2 among other diferences in Section inputdevice\n identifier "configured mouse"
[03:01] <dr_willis> AdamG,  not really. it can take affect now - it depends on what you change
[03:01] <dr_willis> AdamG,  mount command looks there for what to do.
[03:01] <eugman> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-cups-manager/+bug/44196 . solution bESIDES ENDING THE PROCESS?
[03:02] <eugman>  whoops capslock fairy
[03:02] <landsg> AndyCool:  i've tried copying files to sdb1, but doesn't seem to work
[03:02] <AndyCooll_> landsg: when I plug mine in, mine is loaded as /media/Kingston
[03:02] <erUSUL> nix_chix0r: go to the wiki page a gave you there you can see haw to configure your card.
[03:02] <Shannon1> erUSUL: I try that to pu tImPS/2 in the 6.06 xorg,, but it didnt worked
[03:02] <nix_chix0r> yea i'm readin it
[03:02] <barktpolar> What is a good desktop environment for ubuntu other than GNOME?
[03:02] <roostishaw> kde
[03:02] <roostishaw> xfce
[03:02] <AdamG> dr_willis: so if I already have my / partition and I want to start using a new partition as /home, it won't change until I unmount and mount /home?
[03:03] <fire> so is there anyone on here that can help me out with my sound????
[03:03] <roostishaw> barktpolar, kde, xfce, fluxbox
[03:03] <jimm1> help: I have a network card like death.  Its the dwl-g510, has anyone got it working before?
[03:03] <Shizboom> how hard is it to switch to kde interface?
[03:03] <fire> I am at a loss
[03:03] <Shizboom> if i want to try it out?
[03:03] <dr_willis> AdamG,  you can change it in fstab and then use  mount -a
[03:03] <LjL> Shizboom: "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"
[03:03] <dr_willis> AdamG,  or reboot. :)
[03:03] <bimberi> !kde
[03:03] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[03:03] <AdamG> ok, thanks!
[03:03] <barktpolar> How big is that?
[03:03] <LjL> Shizboom: and then choose "KDE" as your session from the login screen
[03:03] <erUSUL> Shannon1: just copy the section of the file that works to the dapper file
[03:03] <neutrinomass> How do I get SSL/TLS support for links2 ?
[03:04] <AndyCooll_> landsg: what about copying to your floppy?
[03:04] <fire> anyone on here that knows something about getting sound working????
[03:04] <Dr4g> I realise this is an ubuntu channel, i'm having probs with Azureus, however i'm running ubuntu, and possibly that might be causing the error.
[03:04] <Dr4g> I'm running ubuntu 6.06..i've installed Azureus fine.. downloading fine.. but you know when the warning messages come up on the bottom right of the screen and you can hit "hide"
[03:04] <barktpolar> How big is kubuntu-desktop?
[03:04] <Shannon1> tried that  ,but I suspect GL Core to kill X,, it didnt want to start
[03:04] <erUSUL> nix_chix0r: you can see that the conf i posted is the right conf for our card (in case you use wpa)
[03:04] <phunkalicious> :|
[03:04] <Dr4g> well my hide button isnt working... has anyone came across this problem also ?
[03:04] <LjL> barktpolar: big
[03:04] <AndyCooll_> barktpolar: around 1gig
[03:04] <Dr4g> Any possibly solutions ?(please read last 3 messages
[03:04] <nix_chix0r> well i don't erUSUL  the persons network is unsecure,
[03:05] <nix_chix0r> i just click and connect
[03:05] <landsg> AndyCool: ok; can I just do a "cp filename floppy destination?
[03:05] <fire> I have been working on this for hours and nothing I have read seems to work...
[03:05] <barktpolar> I'll stick with fluxbox then
[03:05] <nix_chix0r> so for the ESSID i'd have to put their router NETGEAR
[03:05] <barktpolar> I have dial-up
[03:05] <LjL> barktpolar: you can probably "sudo aptitude install kde" if you want something smaller with just the basics, but i can't guarrantee that'll give you a problemless KDE
[03:05] <AndyCooll_> landsg: yep, you got the idea
[03:05] <Shannon1> erUSUL: in 6.06 many othe stuff after the mouse in the xorg.conf,, and when I added the changes x didnt want to start,
[03:05] <barktpolar> fire: welcome to the club
[03:05] <novato_ubuntu> hi everyone...
[03:05] <novato_ubuntu> I changed hd's between two pcs... and now I have to reconfigure the X server... what was the command? dkpg-reconfigure....?
[03:05] <Dr4g> AndyCooll_: any ideas ?
[03:05] <barktpolar> hey novato
[03:05] <fire> barktpolar: its really getting to be a pain.. not sure how to handle it..
[03:06] <pschulz01> greetings.. I'm having an issue with keyboard input in Dapper..
[03:06] <LjL> novato_ubuntu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:06] <barktpolar> me either
[03:06] <erUSUL> novato_ubuntu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:06] <bimberi> barktpolar: the package itself is small, but lots of dependencies will need to come in - i don't know the size but it would be more than 100MB at a guess (1GB is too much - kubuntu-desktop does fit on a CD)
[03:06] <pschulz01> Gnome doesn't seem to be getting the key event properly.
[03:06] <barktpolar> I posted in the ubuntu forums about it
[03:06] <novato_ubuntu> LjL that's the one i was looking for.. thank's ;)
[03:06] <barktpolar> I have a ESS1869 Audiodrive
[03:06] <manuelrazzari> hello!
[03:07] <barktpolar> bimberi: I already ordered Kubuntu from Shipit
[03:07] <LjL> barktpolar: just try it, anyway. "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop" will show you how much you'll have to download *before* it starts downloading, and then you can decide
[03:07] <fire> barktpolar:  ill keep my eyes open incase someone gets you a fix.. the terrible part is.. I had sound.. but I didn't have it in games.. and now with all the messing around.. I don't have sound at all..
[03:07] <landsg> AndyCool:
[03:07] <jimm1> Shizboom, do you think it would work if you got the kubuntu live cd and copied the kde files?
[03:07] <pschulz01> gdm allows me to log in, mouse works, but neither the laptop keyboard or an external USB keyboard produce characters at any prompt.
[03:07] <Shizboom> kubutu-desktop is like 450 megs
[03:07] <AndyCooll_> Dr4g: sorry, I've never used Azureus
[03:07] <barktpolar> then were different fire, my sound card isn't being detected
[03:07] <Shizboom> jimm1 - no clue
[03:07] <pschulz01> It used to work ok..
[03:08] <landsg> Andy Cool:  when I do an "ls" with the floppy, nothing happens;  is the /media the right directory?
[03:08] <bimberi> barktpolar: ok, that will get you the live/install CD, but not a CD you can install kubuntu-desktop onto an existing install from
[03:08] <Shizboom> if i switch over to kde will all my servers and things stop working?
[03:08] <barktpolar> I know
[03:08] <manuelrazzari> i've just installed ubuntu 6.06 on my mac (powerbook g4 titanium 550)... the problem I'm having is when the screen saver activates it fades out VERY slowly, taking like 3 minutes, and I can't interrupt it until it finishes fading out and the screensaver is active... any ideas?
[03:08] <landsg> AndyCool:  also, what do the colors of the filenames mean?
[03:09] <jimm1> oh ok
[03:09] <bimberi> barktpolar: kk, just making sure :)
[03:09] <barktpolar> Besides, when I get the CDs, I'm going to use one as a Live CD and not install it until I get a laptop
[03:09] <pschulz01> Possible causes: 'ssh to remote xubuntu host' and installing and running a gnome app.'
[03:09] <AndyCooll_> landsg: /media is usually the correct place. Are you expecting anything to be on your floppy at this stage?
[03:09] <pschulz01> The symptoms are persistant over logouts and reboots..
[03:09] <barktpolar> Plus, Ubuntu has been a little problematic anyway
[03:09] <Shizboom> Right now i'm accessing my Ubuntu machine through a SSH nomachine server, do i need to be at the computer physically to switch to kde interface?
[03:10] <AndyCooll_> landsg: The colours refer to whether it is a file, directory etc etc
[03:10] <landsg> Andy:  No.  However, both the sdb device and the floppy device show the same files on them.  wierd
[03:10] <landsg> AndyCool:  What color is a device?
[03:10] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Anyone using CHGB
[03:11] <Shizboom> Is there anyway to switch to kde without going to login screen?
[03:11] <barktpolar> I think Sessions Shizboom
[03:11] <jimm1> I cannot get my wireless working, it is definitely the driver.  Is there a wireless card that will work with encryption OTB?
[03:11] <AndyCooll_> landsg: IIRC sdb is pan external device. Do you have one?
[03:12] <eXCeSS> any idea on this problem? http://pastebin.ca/83745
[03:12] <jimm1> I cannot get my wireless working, it is definitely the driver.  Is there a wireless card that will work with encryption OTB?
[03:13] <Shizboom> if i go to kde do i need to reinstall all my programs over again?
[03:13] <landsg> AndyCooll:  You lost me.  I have a 128 mg USB flash card; Ubuntu definitely sees it when I plug in
[03:13] <dr_willis> Shizboom,  ya could run a 2nd X session and have kde in it.. or use vnc and have a kde desktop in a window.
[03:13] <XrekcaH> xrekcah
[03:14] <Shizboom> hmmm
[03:14] <barktpolar> Shizboom: Why do you want KDE?
[03:14] <Warbo> Xnest has X in a window
[03:14] <pschulz01> bimberi, Cheers.. I'm going to be reinstalling I think.
[03:14] <AndyCooll_> landsg: it might well be that sdb1 IS your usb drive. Could that be so?
[03:14] <Warbo> GDMFlexiserver does it as well
[03:14] <Shizboom> i want to be able to use an applet that will tick an rss feed through it
[03:14] <Shizboom> and there is nothing compact like that for gnome that i see
[03:14] <pschulz01> bimberi, Any idea where else I can that the issue?
[03:15] <bimberi> pschulz01: so keyboard works in gdm, but not from then on?
[03:15] <pschulz01> bimberi, yes.. it is a little strange.
[03:15] <francisco> hola
[03:15] <Warbo> Shizboom: Have you checked gnomefiles.org ? That is very useful
[03:15] <Shizboom> yes
[03:15] <Shizboom> didn't see anything
[03:15] <pschulz01> Oh.. just had a thought.
[03:15] <erUSUL> nix_chix0r: good luck with the wifi card Ciao!!
[03:15] <Shizboom> this gnusticker should be working but it isn't
[03:15] <landsg> AndyCool:  I am hoping that is the case; how can I be sure;  I have tried to copy files to it, but doesn't seem to work
[03:15] <bimberi> pschulz01: so could you ctrl-alt-f1 while in gdm, log in and reconfigure X?
[03:16] <phunkalicious> is there an easy way for me to vpn into work like on windows?
[03:16] <pschulz01> No... it's persistant..
[03:16] <Shizboom> Warbo - you want to give this program a try? :D
[03:16] <AndyCooll_> landsg: what message do you get?
[03:16] <barktpolar> Shziboom: What about Blam Feed Reader
[03:16] <Shizboom> Warbo - no one on the ubuntu forms posted that they could actually install it
[03:16] <pschulz01> Found it!!!!
[03:17] <pschulz01> 'slow keys'!
[03:17] <pschulz01> If I hold the key donw it works.
[03:17] <pschulz01> If I hold the key down it works.
[03:17] <Shizboom> barktpolar i want something small like this
[03:17] <pschulz01> How do I turn it off??
[03:17] <isthisnicktaken> Hey can someone help me with my wireless connection.  Its  giving the error SET failer on device eth1 ; operation not permitted
[03:17] <isthisnicktaken> *failed
[03:17] <barktpolar> Oh
[03:17] <landsg> AndyCool:
[03:18] <bimberi> pschulz01: sys -> prefs -> keyboard ?
[03:18] <barktpolar> Just Trying to help
[03:18] <an> hey,guys, is there a SAS for linux?
[03:18] <Shizboom> Any other programs that look like this? http://gnusticker.sourceforge.net/onbottom2.jpg
[03:18] <landsg> AndyCool:  I copied using: cp -R *.* /media/sdb1
[03:18] <barktpolar> Did anyone ever try to make Ubuntu Bread?
[03:18] <pschulz01> bimberi, looking..
[03:18] <jorvis_> does anyone use a good image program like picasa in ubuntu?
[03:18] <an> ?
[03:19] <landsg> AndyCool:  looks like the files did copy over;  now I will try the usb stick on my laptop
[03:19] <citrus> what's the default root password?
[03:19] <dr_willis> jovan_,  picassa has a port for linux now
[03:19] <AndyCooll_> landsg: And if you try with a "sudo" in front?
[03:19] <barktpolar> jorvis_ GIMP!
[03:19] <bur[n] er> gimp is not like picasa
[03:19] <bur[n] er> f-spot is more like picasa, but not quite
[03:19] <bimberi> !root > citrus
[03:19] <pschulz01> bimberi, sys -> prefs -> keyboard preferences -> accessibility (turn it off!!)
[03:19] <jorvis_> my wife wants something easy to use, and the linux port of picasa keeps screwing up.  i'm trying to convince her to keep using linux on our main computer at home
[03:20] <barktpolar> Anyone know where can I download fonts like WIndows has
[03:20] <landsg> AndyCooll:  OK, nothing on the USB stick;  I will try sudo first
[03:20] <citrus> but i want to be root!!111
[03:20] <AndyCooll_> landsg: Progress!
[03:20] <gnomefreak> !root > citrus
[03:20] <AndyCooll_> landsg: damn!
[03:20] <jovan_> dr_willis, i know but it is not a native port. Google used wine patches
[03:20] <bimberi> pschulz01: aah, well done sir!!
[03:20] <lecaros> jorvis_ try picasa for linux
[03:20] <dr_willis> jovan_,  yep.. but its exactly what you wanted. :) so you got to decide eh?
[03:20] <jorvis_> lecaros: I just said that the linux picasa port keeps screwing up
[03:21] <an> hello? anybody knows sth about SAS?/
[03:21] <pschulz01> bimberi, Thanks for your help!
[03:21] <citrus> i still like being root
[03:21] <pschulz01> bimberi, I rally mean that :-)
[03:21] <citrus> feeling all the powah!!1!1
[03:21] <teimu> hi ubuntu, what do i do to install .run files? its a quake 4 demo
[03:21] <pschulz01> bimberi, I really mean that :-)
[03:21] <jovan_> dr_willis, have we ever....?
[03:21] <landsg> AndyCool:  what is the option to just copy a whole directory ?
[03:21] <gnomefreak> teimu: sh file,run
[03:21] <jorvis_> landsg: cp -r source dest
[03:21] <teimu> gnomefreak, thanks!
[03:21] <gnomefreak> sh file.run
[03:21] <lecaros> teimu with sh file .run
[03:21] <gnomefreak> teimu: yw
[03:22] <AndyCooll_> jorvis: have you tried gwenview?
[03:22] <isthisnicktaken> whats the command to get a new IP
[03:22] <isthisnicktaken> iwconfig eth1 ______
[03:22] <isthisnicktaken> ?
[03:22] <landsg> jorvis:  thanks;  if I am already in the source directory, I can just do the "-R" option, correct?
[03:22] <bimberi> pschulz01: np :)
[03:23] <jorvis_> landsg: cp -r . dest
[03:23] <jorvis_> (mind the dot)
[03:23] <kakei> hi did someone had a BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH after install linux on a raid hard disk?
[03:23] <AndyCooll_> landsg: jorvis beat me to it!
[03:23] <eduten> hi
[03:23] <barktpolar> I thought that was only with Windows
[03:24] <kakei> barktpolar: yes on widnows
[03:24] <kakei> windows
[03:24] <pschulz01> bimberi, I'm discussing this with a guy at work at the moment.. there should be 'icon' or something displyed on the screen to indicate that accessability options are on.
[03:24] <barktpolar> Anyone know a good fonts site, I'm looking for the Comic Sans MS font
[03:25] <jovan_> pschulz01, there's an applet for the gnome-panel
[03:25] <remowilliams> hey
[03:25] <AndyCooll_> barktpolar: have you installed msttcorefonts? Are they not part of that?
[03:25] <barktpolar> pschulz01: there probably will be in edgy
[03:25] <remowilliams> how do i open up a archive with 2 partys .001 and .002
[03:25] <landsg> AndyCooll:  OK.  The last suggestion from Jorvis looks like it copies the files somewhere, but not to my USB stick.
[03:26] <landsg> AndyCool:  This is frustrating:  shouldn't be this difficult!
[03:26] <pschulz01> barktpolar, Should I ass this as a feature request, or is it known.
[03:26] <pschulz01> s/ass/add/
[03:27] <AndyCooll_> landsg: in your case that should probably read something like "cp -r . /media/sdb1"
[03:27] <eduten> Help please I have problems with pppoeconf
[03:27] <AndyCooll_> landsg: and maybe with "sudo" in front
[03:28] <jovan_> pschulz01, you can add this applet to the pannel, it indicates if you've the accessability options on
[03:28] <euclid_1> Is there a tutorial on useful linux knowledge for newbies?
[03:28] <AndyCooll_> landsg: or "cp ./yourfolder /media/sdb1"
[03:28] <novato_ubuntu> isi there a way to install a serial mouse in ubuntu?
[03:29] <dr_willis> novato_ubuntu,  plug it in ( with power off) boot up.. edit xorg.conf ( is how this old timer woild do it)
[03:29] <barktpolar> IDK pschulz01
[03:29] <landsg> AndyCooll:  When I cd over to /media/sdb1 and do an ls, the files are listed;  however, when I remove the stick and try to read it on my laptop, it says it is empty
[03:29] <novato_ubuntu> dr_willis: what do I have to edit there?
[03:30] <bimberi> pschulz01: hm, tricky one, in your situation, how did the accessibility stuff get switched on? perhaps a warning at that point as to the consequences
[03:30] <dr_willis> novato_ubuntu,  the device in the input/mouse area  - would be my guess. theres a command that reconfigures X - that may detect/setup the serial mouse. I dont even have a serial mouse any more. :)
[03:30] <nrte_fivre> Anyone know why gparted would refuse to allow the creation of extended partitions?
[03:30] <ardchoille> landsg: is there anything in /media/sdb1 when the stick isn't in?
[03:31] <remowilliams> how do u unzip 2 files .001 and .002
[03:31] <landsg> ardchoille:  Yes, the same files are listed
[03:31] <aLPHa_LeaK> remowilliams: what file type are they?
[03:31] <ardchoille> landsg: they are listed when the stick isn't in the machine?
[03:31] <jorvis_> remowilliams: are they rar files?
[03:31] <novato_ubuntu> dr_willis: hehe.. well the things around here are not as good as I wish... but... :)
[03:31] <remowilliams> i think so
[03:31] <pschulz01> bimberi, There was some 'hot key' sequence..
[03:31] <remowilliams> multipart
[03:31] <landsg> ardchoille:  Yes
[03:32] <remowilliams> how do i open multipart rars
[03:32] <jorvis_> remowilliams: try: unrar x somefile.001
[03:32] <remowilliams> its multipart
[03:32] <jorvis_> if it is multipart it will pull the second and third, etc.
[03:32] <remowilliams> i gotta open both at once
[03:32] <remowilliams> k
[03:32] <ardchoille> landsg: did you mount the stick to /media/sdb1 after inserting the stick?
[03:32] <AndyCooll_> landsg: Puzzled too
[03:33] <landsg> Don't think so;  Sorry, I am somewhat of a newbie as you can tell
[03:33] <ardchoille> AndyCooll_: I think he cp'd the files to /media/sdb1 when the stick was either not mounted or mounted in a diff point
[03:33] <AndyCooll_> landsg: My first thought is that it suggests that sdb1 isn't your usb stick, but rather another device
[03:33] <AndyCooll_> ardchoille: was thinking similar
[03:33] <landsg> what is the syntax to mount the stick to sdb1
[03:34] <ardchoille> lndfirst you need to make sure those files don't dissappear from /media/sdb1
[03:34] <nrte_fivre> Anyone know why gparted would refuse to allow the creation of extended partitions?
[03:34] <ardchoille> landsg: first you need to make sure those files don't dissappear from /media/sdb1
[03:34] <Shizboom> what is a shell script usually called? XX.XX?
[03:34] <ardchoille> file.sh
[03:34] <Shizboom> thanks
[03:35] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[03:35] <landsg> ardchoille:  OK, should I just do an "ls" again?
[03:35] <landsg> with or without the USB stick actually in the PC?
[03:35] <erf> Hey, is there anyway to convert a breezy badger install to a dapper drake install?
[03:35] <ardchoille> landsg: do: ls -l /media/sdb1
[03:35] <ardchoille> without
[03:36] <barktpolar> Are the Shipit CDs regular CDs or DVDs?
[03:36] <ardchoille> barktpolar: CD's
[03:36] <erf> CDs
[03:36] <ardchoille> I just got mine yesterday
[03:36] <AndyCooll_> barktpolar: regular CD's
[03:36] <barktpolar> K
[03:36] <Ademan> where could i get the most recent source code for the gnome panel applet "Window list" ?
[03:36] <landsg> ardchoille:  OK, the files are still listed without the USB stick in
[03:37] <Ademan> cvs is ok, but i dont even know what repository
[03:37] <AndyCooll_> landsg: which means sdb1 isn't your USB stick
[03:37] <ardchoille> landsg: that means the files are physically at /media/sdb1. you need to move them to a safe place, mount the usb stick and then mv or cp the files to the correct location of the stick
[03:37] <bimberi> pschulz01: ah, right.  it's tricky because there's possibly a lots of config things that would be annoying if they were switched on unknowingly but to use real-estate to indicate that something is on might be overdoing it - perhaps some other way but nothing leaps to mind atm
[03:37] <ardchoille> landsg: do you only have one stick?
[03:38] <Shizboom> How would i go about runing a shell script from shell? "sudo file.sh" isn't working
[03:38] <ardchoille> Shizboom: sudo sh file.sh
[03:38] <spades> sh file.sh
[03:38] <pschulz01> bimberi, The 'accessability status' widget doesn't actually change at the moment.. (stays as the 'blue wheelchair' symbol).
[03:38] <Paradoxx_> ardchoille: but if he makes the script executable, he can then, run the command without the sh
[03:39] <landsg> ardchoille:  I have two sticks; however, the files are also on the hard drive I am trying to re-install Dapper onto;  I get see them in their original directory or on sdb1
[03:39] <pschulz01> bimberi, I originally installed it so I could test it out..
[03:39] <pschulz01> bimberi, but that was a while ago..
[03:39] <ardchoille> Paradoxx_: good point
[03:39] <bimberi> pschulz01: hm, well you'd want that to have some sort of indication - colour change or something
[03:39] <fiveiron> anyone have an ati tv wonder pro?
[03:39] <pschulz01> bimberi, Grey out if disabled maybe.
[03:40] <ardchoille> Shizboom: since that is a shell script, do: chmod u+x file.sh  (use sudo if needed)
[03:40] <twysted> how do i specify the gcc version when compiling programs?
[03:40] <Drasla> anyone know how to create a directory in inetd.conf?
[03:40] <pschulz01> bimberi, at the moment it just activates the keyboard accessability menu.
[03:40] <intelligi> I need to ssh into my Xbox (running Xebian). How do I do that?
[03:40] <twysted> intelligi ask the xebian project
[03:41] <dr_willis> ssh ip.of.the.x.box
[03:41] <dr_willis> :)
[03:41] <intelligi> I see the client application thing.
[03:41] <jcmcbeth> I'm running a program and it says core dumped but I can't find the core dump file anywhere, where would it be?
[03:41] <intelligi> Dude, it's just like ssh into another Linux computer. I've done it from windows, I just need to do it from Ubuntu.
[03:41] <landsg> ardchoille:  so if the files aren't on the usb stick, what is sdb1?  What device would it be?  There are no other sticks on the PC right now
[03:42] <dr_willis> open a terminal, ssh ip
[03:42] <intelligi> I need a GUI thing so I can copy files and stuff, like with winscp.
[03:42] <ardchoille> landsg: /media/sdb1 is just a directory. when you mount a file system, you have to specify a mount point (a directory)
[03:42] <jrib> intelligi: use nautilus
[03:42] <intelligi> How?
[03:42] <SurfnKid> i keep forgetting
[03:42] <jrib> intelligi: file > connect to server
[03:42] <SurfnKid> how to look for a specific file on a terminal
[03:42] <intelligi> Ok.
[03:43] <jrib> SurfnKid: locate filename
[03:43] <landsg> ardchoille:  OK, so how to I mount the usb stick; does ubuntu do that automatically?
[03:43] <ardchoille> landsg: since the device is mounted on that point, any files you mv into that directory go onto that device. Which is why I think you mistakenly copied files into /media/sdb1 when that wasn't the correct mount point
[03:44] <SurfnKid> jrib thx
[03:44] <landsg> ardchoille:  OK
[03:44] <ardchoille> landsg: my gnome auto-mounts devices it recognises and puts an icon on the desktop when it's mounted.
[03:44] <intelligi> It won't let me choose to log in as root.
[03:44] <intelligi> It just asks for a password.
[03:44] <landsg> ardchoille:  I can't get to my desktop, x is not working
[03:44] <ardchoille> landsg: you can run the mount command and see what is actually mounted and where it is mounted at
[03:44] <landsg> ardchoille:  OK
[03:45] <erf> Do I need the CD to upgrade to dapper from breezy?
[03:45] <DarkMageZ> erf, nope, if you have a fast enough connection, u can do it over the net
[03:45] <bimberi> intelligi: Places -> Connect to Server, Service type: SSH.  You can specify a user there
[03:45] <deka> if u want join us
[03:46] <dr_willis> it pays to learn how to use the programs eh. :)
[03:46] <landsg> ardchoille:  I did a mount command, and I don't see anything that looks like a USB drive;  however, when I do put the USB stick in the PC, several lines of text scroll up and Ubuntu looks like it sees it
[03:46] <SurfnKid> jrib, whats the argument in 'locate' for a complete search in root
[03:46] <ardchoille> landsg: plugin the usb stick and run mount and see if it's mounted, If it is, where is it mounted?
[03:46] <erf> DarkMageZ, I certainly do, Im going to use my VPS
[03:48] <erf> So I basically just change the sources and run apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[03:48] <Sakunix> has anyone here ever got ubuntu onto a xbox?
[03:48] <Tom7e> my dcc chats in Xchat open in the channel window instead of a new, seperate window.  how do i fix this?
[03:48] <sztanpet> erf beware a lot of thing could barek tho
[03:48] <landsg> ardchoille:  OK, I did a mount before and after the usb stick.  I do see a line that says:  /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[03:48] <darkyoshi372> Is it possible to run the server installation at higher than VGA, to use up all of an LCD?
[03:48] <DarkMageZ> erf, the "best" way to upgrade to dapper from breezy appears to be to disable all 3rd party repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list. remove all 3rd party packages from the system. then change the words breezy to dapper in sources.list then dist-upgrade
[03:48] <sztanpet> brake
[03:49] <ardchoille> landsg: ok, what is the mount point?
[03:49] <erf> DarkMageZ, It's a fresh install of breezy
[03:49] <erf> The VPS Co havent put Dapper up for download just yet
[03:50] <landsg> ardchoille:  how can I tell?  there is a lot of verbage!
[03:50] <darkyoshi372> Anyone? Is it possible to run the server installation at higher than VGA, to use up all of an LCD?
[03:51] <Kilopopo> hi there is something wrong with ubuntu
[03:51] <kakalto> Kilopopo: tell us, what is this something?
[03:51] <ardchoille> landsg: does that line read: procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)  ?
[03:52] <landsg> ardchoille:  YES
[03:52] <ardchoille> landsg: that's not the usb stick
[03:52] <Shizboom> hmmmm kde is pretty nice
[03:52] <erf> Thanks
[03:52] <landsg> ardchoille:
[03:52] <Kilopopo> its terminal located under accessories its terribly wrong to put it in there
[03:52] <landsg> ardchoille: oh darn
[03:52] <ardchoille> landsg: it should read something like: /dev/sda1 on /media/usb type ext3 (rw) or something
[03:53] <landsg> ardchoille  I see /dev/hdb1 / type ext3
[03:53] <ardchoille> no, that isn't it either.. that is the root file system
[03:54] <ardchoille> landsg: anything noticable in /var/log/messages?
[03:54] <kakalto> Kilopopo: well you seem to have found it in the end. what's the issue?
[03:54] <landsg> ardchoille:  how about udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)??
[03:55] <Kilopopo> why is it under accessories
[03:55] <ardchoille> land do: tail --lines=10 /var/log/messages
[03:55] <ardchoille> landsg: no, I think that is udev
[03:56] <asdx> hi, i'm running ubuntu 6.06 on a athlon 64/via motherboard, the problem is, when i install the nvidia driver, and i change /etc/X11/xorg.conf, from nv to nvidia, and i start X, X hangs...
[03:56] <landsg> ardchoille:  dmesg:  "Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi5, channel 0, id 0, ...
[03:57] <epod> asdx: are your OS and your nvidia driver both 32 or 64bit?
[03:57] <ardchoille> landsg: does that show a mount point? something like /media/sda1 or some such?
[03:57] <asdx> epod: ubuntu is 32 bits, and i installed the driver with apt-get, i think it should be 32 bit too
[03:59] <asdx> epod: i was using archlinux before, and i installed the driver with it's package manager, and it hanged too, after that i compiled a kernel and installed the nvidia driver manually (the 32 bit one) and worked fine
[03:59] <landsg> ardchoille:  it does say usb-storage:  device scan complete;  I don't see a mount point yet
[03:59] <asdx> what could be the problem?
[04:00] <ardchoille> landsg: hmm.. does the dir /media/sda1 exist?
[04:00] <Shizboom> does anyone know what this means, "Jul  9 21:56:00 SERV gconfd (nan-26589): Resolved address "xml:readwrite:/home/nan/.gconf" to a writable configuration source at position 0"
[04:01] <Shizboom> its an error message i'm getting while trying to run a panel app
[04:01] <ardchoille> Shizboom: my logs are full of those
[04:01] <cwillu> Shizboom: does it still work?
[04:01] <landsg> ardchoille:  no, just sdb1
[04:01] <cwillu> I believe they're benign
[04:01] <Shizboom> well this isn't working
[04:01] <ardchoille> landsg: sudo mkdir /media/sda1
[04:01] <Shizboom> so if i can figure out what is wrong i might be able to fix it
[04:02] <landsg> ardchoille:
[04:02] <landsg> OK
[04:02] <ardchoille> landsg: what is the file system on the usb stick?
[04:02] <Kibou> !mono
[04:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about mono
[04:03] <ryanr> i am trying to build gimmie and getting this error: /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/libXrender.la: No such file or directory
[04:03] <ryanr> libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libXrender.la' is not a valid libtool arc
[04:03] <lukaswayne9> Hey.. Is there any way I can get dbus applications to communicate with each other from a different sesison?  For example:  I have rhtyhmbox running on my Xserver, and I'd like to use a vt to use rhythmbox-client to control it
[04:03] <ryanr> any ideas?
[04:03] <wy> Hi I've got a problem tracing multithreaded programs with strace
[04:04] <landsg> ardchoille:  don't know yet, but I can snap it into my latop running Dapper, and it sees it right away
[04:05] <ardchoille> landsg: put it in the laptop, run mount and see which fs is on that stick
[04:06] <landsg> ardchoille:  It's Vfat
[04:06] <asdx> i have a athlon 64 cpu, on a via motherboard, and i'm using a fx 5200, i'm using ubuntu 6.06 (x86 version), i installed the driver with apt-get install nvidia-glx, but X hangs with the nvidia driver, it happend the same in archlinux when i installed the driver with pacman -S nvidia-glx, but worked fine when i installed the 32 bit driver from www.nvidia.com
[04:07] <ketethatooblack> help me
[04:07] <ketethatooblack> i really need help
[04:07] <jchico> we all do. ;)
[04:07] <ketethatooblack> hahha
[04:07] <ardchoille> landsg: stick it into the computer and do: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[04:07] <ketethatooblack> im not understanding ilnux
[04:07] <ketethatooblack> LINUX
[04:07] <ketethatooblack> its cool and all but downloading things on this computer is a paint in the ass
[04:07] <jchico> well what distro you're running?
[04:07] <jchico> Ubuntu? SuSE?
[04:07] <jchico> Fedora?
[04:07] <Hexidigital> Minix?
[04:07] <ketethatooblack> ok i have a sudoku game and its in the archives manager
[04:08] <Kibou> hurd?
[04:08] <jchico> heh Amiga :P
[04:08] <Hexidigital> heh
[04:08] <ketethatooblack> i dont know what to do after this step
[04:08] <landsg> ardchoille:  OK;  try to copy the files again?
[04:09] <ardchoille> landsg: no errors with the mount?
[04:09] <landsg> ardchoille
[04:09] <Warbo> Hmm. I am trying to file a bug on nvidia-glx but the package doesn't seem to be in Launchpad
[04:09] <ketethatooblack> jchico can you help me?
[04:09] <landsg> ardchoille:  no
[04:09] <ardchoille> landsg: ok, are those files still in /media/sdb1 ?
[04:09] <landsg> ardchoille:  yes
[04:10] <ketethatooblack> DOES ANY ONE KNOW HOW TO DOWNLOAD THINGS ON THIS COMPUTER SUCH AS A GAME
[04:10] <tritium> ketethatooblack: don't yell
[04:10] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: Add/Remove Applications maybe?
[04:10] <ardchoille> landsg: do: sudo cp -r /media/sdb1/* /media/sda1
[04:11] <whyami> ketethatooblack: we don't have enough info to help you. You found some game and you know it is in the archives. How do you know this? Synaptic? Have you used synaptic?
[04:11] <ketethatooblack> haha sorry.
[04:11] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: If you want to install your Sudoku game then right click on it in the file manager and go "Extract Here", then open up the folder it makes
[04:11] <ketethatooblack> ok
[04:11] <ketethatooblack> i clicked the game
[04:11] <ketethatooblack> on the site
[04:11] <ketethatooblack> it goes to the download box
[04:11] <ketethatooblack> finishes
[04:11] <Warbo> whyami: I think file roller=archives manager
[04:11] <ketethatooblack> opens archives manager
[04:12] <tritium> !enter > ketethatooblack
[04:12] <ketethatooblack> i have no clue what to do here
[04:12] <whyami> Warbo: you're right.
[04:12] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: Go on "Extract" and choose to extract it into your Home folder
[04:12] <tritium> ketethatooblack: which game?  Please check first to see if it's in one of the ubuntu repositories
[04:12] <ketethatooblack> sudoku
[04:12] <ketethatooblack> wait one second
[04:12] <ketethatooblack> let me open my file browser and see if the extraction worked
[04:13] <tritium> ketethatooblack: there is gnome-sudoku and ksudoku in the ubuntu repos
[04:13] <ketethatooblack> ok it hoppened it has some folders and then a makefile
[04:13] <ketethatooblack> well
[04:13] <tritium> ketethatooblack: please quit hitting enter in place of a period.,
[04:13] <ketethatooblack> i think i got this
[04:13] <ketethatooblack> off a random site. i'm sorry its how i type
[04:13] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: Open a terminal (in accessories)
[04:14] <tritium> ketethatooblack: well, in a busy channel like this, please use punctuation and new sentences so as not to spam the channel.
[04:14] <ketethatooblack> ok its opened
[04:14] <TokenBad> is there a way to install ubuntu from a hard drive instead of burning a cd?
[04:14] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: If the folder is in your home folder then type "cd thenameofthefolder" and press enter
[04:14] <ketethatooblack> ok ill be sure to remember. thanks for telling me tritium.
[04:15] <soniccol> Is there any SETI@HOME related software in unbun-linux ?
[04:15] <tritium> ketethatooblack: thanks for cooperating!  :)
[04:15] <nocti> TokenBad: mount the iso as loopback
[04:15] <Maze_of_Torment> I just installed azureus and i keep getting these warnings and they wont go away anyone know
[04:15] <Wordsworth> Hi
[04:15] <Maze_of_Torment> anything about this?
[04:15] <ketethatooblack> tritium: im getting used to this name: response thing haha
[04:15] <ketethatooblack> warbo: i typed in cd home and it goes no such file or directory
[04:15] <TokenBad> so if already have say linux on the machine...how would I do that?
[04:15] <Wordsworth> I was wondering, would the memory errors I keep getting when I try to install Ubuntu be because I burned it to a rewritable CD?
[04:15] <TokenBad> have debian installed already...but want to move to ubuntu
[04:16] <tritium> ketethatooblack: it helps us see messages to one another
[04:16] <ardchoille> landsg: how's it going over there? :)
[04:16] <Wordsworth> I keep getting "Loading isolinux: Disk error 80, AX = 4200, drive 9F"
[04:16] <Wordsworth> I have no idea what that means
[04:16] <tritium> I'm off to dinner.  Good luck, ketethatooblack.  And welcome to the community :)
[04:16] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: The terminal is already in your home folder by default (the ~ means your home) type in "cd thenameofthefolderyouextracted"
[04:16] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: The ~ should change to ~/foldername
[04:17] <ketethatooblack> warbo: OH hahaha. im sorry. i sound like the dumbest person alive. okkie dokiee. ya i mastered windows then decide dmaybe linux would be better. ok it gave me another line
[04:17] <ketethatooblack> warbo: excatly =] 
[04:17] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: Does the folder you extracted contain a file called "configure"?
[04:17] <Wordsworth> Could anyone give me some direction? Thanks!
[04:18] <ketethatooblack> warbo: nope
[04:18] <revilot> im trying to install ubuntu on my desktop and its locked up at setting up clock.  any ideas
[04:18] <Warbo> Wordsworth: RW discs work fine for me. Have you checked the md5sum (see if it is corrupt)?
[04:18] <Wordsworth> md5sum?
[04:18] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: OK, but you mentaioned "Makefile"
[04:18] <Wordsworth> I'm not familiar with that, Warbo.
[04:18] <ketethatooblack> warbo: correcttt
[04:19] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: OK, try typing "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:19] <Warbo> !md5
[04:19] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[04:19] <Maze_of_Torment> if anyone can help me with an azureus bug ........
[04:19] <ketethatooblack> warbo: asks for password. so yep ima type mine in
[04:19] <Wordsworth> I know how to mount images, I use alcohol.
[04:19] <Warbo> Wordsworth: Look at that "VerifyIsoHowto" link
[04:19] <Wordsworth> ok
[04:20] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: Type your regular password. It won't show up for security reasons, but it is going in
[04:20] <revilot> im trying to install ubuntu on my desktop and its locked up at setting up clock.  any ideas
[04:20] <randy> DCC SEND 123456789123456789 0 0 0
[04:20] <ketethatooblack> warbo: doesnt let me type it in
[04:20] <Hobbsee> nalioth: ping!
[04:20] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: I said it doesn't show up for security reasons
[04:20] <hedge> Anyone know how to recover a partition table that has been altered?
[04:21] <VoX> hedge: uhh afaik you cant
[04:21] <Shizboom> wow kde is really nice
[04:21] <ketethatooblack> warbo: okk sorry i thought you meant the context wont show up until i type my password in. ok im going
[04:21] <Wordsworth> There's no link to where to get md5sum on that page
[04:21] <Wordsworth> Just tells you to download it.
[04:21] <revilot> im trying to install ubuntu on my desktop and its locked up at setting up clock.  any ideas
[04:22] <ketethatooblack> warbo: ok it went through. a couple of lines showe dup and then it says do you want to continue y/n.
[04:22] <Maze_of_Torment> anyone have any ideas on azureus bug?
[04:22] <ketethatooblack> warbo: it also says
[04:22] <Warbo> Wordsworth: By the way, Alcohol is not needed in Ubuntu (the program at least). Unlike Windows Linux can mount iso images just like any other device
[04:22] <ketethatooblack> warbo: 41.9MB of additional space will be used
[04:22] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: It needs a load of crap installed. Say yes
[04:23] <landsg> ardchoille:  thanks, looks like that is working;  now I just ran out of space.  I will have to do a couple of dumps to get all the files
[04:23] <ketethatooblack> warbo: ok its going through. i'll let you know when its done. thanks again for helping me. it wasnt self explanatory
[04:23] <revilot> im trying to install ubuntu on my desktop and its locked up at setting up clock.  any ideas
[04:24] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: That's because you don't really need to do all of this. That "apt-get" thing? It contains a load of games by default, you just need to tell it what you want to install
[04:24] <balony> How do I get up the program install manager when im not running gnome? What command?
[04:24] <ardchoille> landsg: ok. when you have the files on the usb stick, take that stick to the laptop and make sure the files are actually on it before you reinstall dapper :)
[04:24] <ketethatooblack> warbo: i think its done. oh i see
[04:24] <joebu23> hello, I just upgraded my laptop to dapper, now it locks up at "Loading hardware drivers", any ideas?
[04:24] <hedge> does undelete fro Ext3fs?
[04:24] <Warbo> balony: "gksudo synaptic" "sudo apt-get" or "sudo aptitude"
[04:25] <hedge> for
[04:25] <ketethatooblack> warbo: its went back to where i type in my next file or whatever after sudoku my filename
[04:25] <landsg> ardchoille:  right;  I need to understand more about the mount points and why it didn't work right away.  Can you point me in the right direction?
[04:25] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: OK, when it has all installed type "make"
[04:25] <balony> Warbo: ok, thanks
[04:26] <stephan__> anyone have any explerance with libnjb
[04:26] <Maze_of_Torment> i have a problem with azureus loading warnings and not going away any ideas?
[04:26] <revilot> im trying to install ubuntu on my desktop and its locked up at setting up clock.  any ideas
[04:26] <ketethatooblack> warbo: its done but it ended with two errors
[04:26] <ardchoille> landsg: the only thing I ever research are the man pages, if you want to do that, then man mount is good :)
[04:27] <Gareth^> holy crap yes ndiswrapper works!
[04:27] <ardchoille> lol
[04:27] <hedge> lol
[04:27] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: Usually source code (which is what you downloaded) follows a procedure of configure, build then install. Since yours doesn't have the configure bit it is likely to have errors. Try going in System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager and looking in Games
[04:27] <bur[n] er_> anyone know what port needs to be tunneled to get samba access via ssh?
[04:27] <Gareth^> I've never been so ecstatic to see a flashy orange light
[04:27] <landsg> ardchoille:  OK:  thanks for your patience.  This really helps!
[04:28] <joebu23> burner: ssh works on port 22
[04:28] <ardchoille> landsg: any time :)
[04:28] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: Also there are some huge archives of stuff available.......
[04:28] <Warbo> !tell ketethatooblack about universe
[04:28] <ketethatooblack> warbo: thanks. i will try it and i appreciate all you rhelps
[04:28] <dereks_> has dapper backports opened yet?
[04:28] <ketethatooblack> warbo: so for all files like this i extract them > open terminal > cd folder > config > build > install
[04:28] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: Too bad that game you got didn't build (configure would have told you what the problem was and what you needed to do about it)
[04:29] <bur[n] er_> joebu23: but I want to do samba sharing through an ssh tunnel... so I gotta forward some other port... maybe 135... or 449 or osmething
[04:29] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: Try to stick to packages in Synaptic
[04:29] <ardchoille> landsg: also, you can use tar to tar up files and save some apce
[04:29] <ardchoille> *space
[04:29] <ketethatooblack> warbo: ok thank youu!
[04:29] <ketethatooblack> warbo: got to go. have a great night. thanks for everything
[04:29] <revilot> can anyone help me figure out an install problem, ubuntu is locked up at "setting up the clock"
[04:29] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: the actual procedure is usually "./configure ", "make", "sudo checkinstall"
[04:30] <ketethatooblack> warbo: okk
[04:30] <ketethatooblack> ill reember that. goodnight
[04:30] <Dial_tone> sweetness. I configured it so I can login to an XP vmware player session directly from GDM in full screen. no need to dualboot ever
[04:30] <Warbo> night
[04:30] <josh> hey
[04:30] <josh> question
[04:30] <Gareth^> nice one Dial_tone - how'd you do that?
[04:30] <Warbo> Dial_tone: Wow. I can't get my head around the configs for GDM :)
[04:30] <josh> how do i get the compis/xgl software loaded?
[04:30] <Maze_of_Torment> can anyone help me with an azureus bug?
[04:31] <lopro> hey all
[04:31] <Warbo> Dial_tone: Next stop, the Wiki!
[04:31] <revilot> can anyone help me figure out an install problem, ubuntu is locked up at "setting up the clock"
[04:31] <bur[n] er_> !xgl > josh
[04:31] <Warbo> !xgl
[04:31] <Dr4g> Question: Has ubuntu replaced "su root" with "sudo" ?
[04:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:31] <dereks> !backports
[04:31] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[04:31] <josh> ty
[04:31] <lopro> is it possible to install a windows program on ubuntu breezy?
[04:31] <Warbo> Dr4g: su still works, but only for root. Use "sudo -s -H" to become root for more than one command
[04:31] <josh> !easysources
[04:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about easysources
[04:31] <josh> !easysource
[04:31] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:31] <Dial_tone> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202166
[04:31] <Dr4g> lopro: with VMWare, yes
[04:32] <asdx> hi, i'm running 32 bit ubuntu and installed nvidia-glx with apt-get, i'm running on a 64 bit cpu (athlon 64), but X hangs when i run using the nvidia driver, i don't understand why it hangs when i install the driver with apt-get, but works fine when i compile a kernel and i install the driver manually. WTF!!
[04:32] <lopro> really???
[04:32] <Warbo> lopro: With WINE yes. Applications usually work, but games usually don't (they are copy protected)
[04:32] <Dial_tone> vmware, wine or codeweavers
[04:32] <Warbo> or Cedega or Qemu
[04:33] <revilot> can anyone help me figure out an install problem, ubuntu is locked up at "setting up the clock"
[04:33] <Warbo> or Bochs
[04:33] <Maze_of_Torment> azureus bugs can anyone help
[04:33] <stephan__> anyone know anything about libnjb?
[04:33] <Dial_tone> revilot: can you go back from that point?
[04:33] <Warbo> revilot: I wouldn't know how to fix it, but if you end up withou an answer then there is always the alternate CD
[04:33] <Dial_tone> Maze_of_Torment: what
[04:33] <hondje> Is there a way to tell the last date apt updated a package?
[04:33] <revilot> i cant do anything but move mousey m
[04:33] <Warbo> !azureus
[04:33] <Maze_of_Torment> the warning signs keep coming up and i cant get rid of them
[04:33] <revilot> move my mouse rather
[04:33] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[04:34] <Dr4g> lopro: WINE is a windows emulator, however VMWare imho is alot better, and i highly recommend it.
[04:34] <Dr4g> Its good when u wanna use photoshop or visual studio on Linux, just crack on VMWare :o)
[04:34] <Dial_tone> maze, bring up help/about then close the dialog box. it will work.
[04:34] <jorgeu> how do i get / set the gtk-engine that i'm using?. I would like to use clearlooks engine instead of ubuntulook (note: i'm not talking about themes)
[04:34] <Dr4g> hmm.. i just realised my scrollbar wasnt all the way down
[04:34] <lophyte> Warbo: doesn't wine stand for "WINE Is Not an Emulator" ?  ;)
[04:34] <Warbo> Dr4g: WINE lets Linux run Windows programs, VMWare lets Linux run Windows itself
[04:34] <lopro> i have never installed a program with out the synaptic package manager, will there be command i will need to know, or will wine take care of that?
[04:34] <Dr4g> i was reading convos from 30 mins ago
[04:34] <Dr4g> LOL!
[04:34] <Maze_of_Torment> thanks Dial_tone
[04:34] <stephan__> !libnjb
[04:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about libnjb
[04:34] <revilot> Dial_Tone: I can do anything but move my mouse
[04:35] <Warbo> lophyte: Yes, WINE is a reimplementation of the Windows APIs. Basically it makes Linux into a Windows compatible operating system
[04:35] <lopro> vmware, okay
[04:35] <dragon> lol Dr4g
[04:35] <Dr4g> dragon :o)
[04:35] <TalentedChimp> in /dmrc file can i have 2 languages set? e.g Language=en_GB.UTF-8,ko_KR.UTF-8
[04:35] <lophyte> Warbo: I know, I was joking around ;)
[04:35] <dragon> me 2 :o)
[04:35] <jorgeu> how do i get / set the gtk-engine that i'm using?. I would like to use clearlooks engine instead of ubuntulook (note: i'm not talking about themes)
[04:35] <Dr4g> (Drag) in my name doesnt stand for dragon, neither a drag (someone who dressed in womans clothes).
[04:35] <TalentedChimp> i mean .dmrc file of course
[04:35] <Dr4g> dragon ^^
[04:36] <Warbo> jorgeu: The theme chooses which engine it uses. Get a clearlooks theme
[04:36] <ardchoille> jorgeu: the theme itself specifies which engine to use
[04:36] <lopro> wow, thanks a ton for all your help!!!
[04:36] <Dr4g> lopro: nps, i would have replied sooner, though my scrollbar wasnt right down, and i was reading convos from 30 mins ago
[04:36] <hondje> TalentedChimp: I've never tried it, but I've found it easier to just use different users for different languages and then use fusa to switch between them
[04:36] <Warbo> jorgeu: Or if you can't find one open up the gtkrc file and change it into a clearlooks one (maybe a bit tricky?)
[04:36] <hondje> Though scim works great for hangul
[04:36] <asdx> anyone here running running 32 bit ubuntu with nvidia on a athlon 64?
[04:37] <hondje> s/easier/easy
[04:37] <dragon> lol. i didn't think it ment dragon, bu yeah i was thinking along the lines of a "queen" lol
[04:37] <elknof1> hi everybody...  can someone help me with the line for Xserver reconfiguring??
[04:37] <ardchoille> Warbo: I did that once and the scrollbars disappeared, lol
[04:37] <lopro> no prob, drag, im gonna try the advice now, thanks everyone
[04:37] <ndookie> hello
[04:37] <revilot> can anyone help me figure out an install problem, ubuntu is locked up at "setting up the clock"
[04:38] <Warbo> ardchoille: I ALMOST made a great Ubuntulooks engine. But couldn't find out how to change the scroolbar's white colour. So I gave up and I am on xfce engine now
[04:38] <TalentedChimp> hondje i need to display korean in my network browser, workgroup and pc names show up as garbage
[04:38] <ndookie> i need help with my wireless
[04:38] <ardchoille> Warbo: lol
[04:38] <Warbo> theme, not engine :)
[04:38] <ndookie> ok , i think i should rephrase
[04:38] <phunkalicious> hey has anyone played around with network manager and the VPN plugin for it?
[04:38] <hondje> TalentedChimp: eesh....I've never had that problem, so I would just mess with .dmrc and see what happens :-)
[04:38] <dragon> revilot-- mine did that last night, i'm not sure howto fix it...but after the 4th attempt at installing it just worked.....
[04:39] <dragon> lol
[04:39] <revilot> great
[04:39] <wweasel> Hey guys. I've been using Ubuntu for a while now, but this is the first time I try to burn a CD.  What software do you use to burn a disc image to CD?
[04:39] <ndookie> ive got a problem with making my wireless network my default ... it doesnt save as the default..anyone else has this problem ?
[04:39] <wweasel> ndookie: do you use network-manager?
[04:39] <dragon> sorry, that's not much help..
[04:39] <Warbo> wweasel: Right click the ISO in nautilus>Burn Image To CD
[04:39] <ndookie> wweasel : try nero
[04:39] <revilot> not your fault
[04:39] <lopro> where can i find VMWare? should it be in the synaptic manager?
[04:39] <dragon> :o)
[04:39] <ndookie> yes
[04:39] <ndookie> wweasel : thats where its not saving..
[04:39] <hondje> You'd 'think' as long as the fonts were installed that it would work fine, like when browsing non-eng sites or txt files
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> vmware-player it is called
[04:40] <Warbo> !vmware
[04:40] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[04:40] <Warbo> Someone has written a fantastic Wiki page there
[04:40] <TalentedChimp> anyone know how to auto log to server and channels in xchat?
[04:40] <MrObvious> TalentedChimp: Yeah easy
[04:40] <wweasel> ndookie: I use network-manager, and ever since I first selected the wireless network, when I see it in range it connects.  I believe that network-manager will automatically default to the ethernet if you have it plugged in.  I don't think you can change that.
[04:40] <wweasel> !nero
[04:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about nero
[04:41] <landsg> ardchoille:  Still there?  If so, how do I change dir if name is multiple words?  Seems simple, but shell won't let me
[04:41] <Warbo> !gnomebaker
[04:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about gnomebaker
[04:41] <Warbo> !iso
[04:41] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[04:41] <ndookie> wweasel : but its not connected ... cant seem to figure out what the problem is though
[04:41] <MrObvious> TalentedChimp: What you do is on the server list window, choose not to display it, then edit the Freenode entry
[04:41] <Warbo> CD Writing: Nautilus, k3b, Gnomebaker, XCDRoast
[04:42] <MrObvious> TalentedChimp: There is an option there for autoconnect
[04:42] <wweasel> ndookie: when you click on the wireless it will connect?
[04:42] <ndookie> wweasel : how would i know if my ID is hexidecimal or ASCII
[04:42] <ardchoille> landsg: cd /home/path\ to\ this\ dir/newdir/another\ dir\ with\ multiple\ words
[04:42] <ndookie> wweasel : it doesnt say anything acknowledging that its connected
[04:43] <wweasel> ndookie: to see if it is connected, try pinging google (either ping from command line or System -> Administration -> Network Tools
[04:43] <lopro> how do i open a command to change my kernel?
[04:43] <ndookie> wweasel : thats my normal procedure, its not connected
[04:43] <foxiness> on nero burning i have to choose a-track-at-once b-disc-at-once ? 'am going to burn xubuntu'
[04:43] <stephan__> whats a site to where i can post text so u guys can read something
[04:43] <hondje> You can also use cd /home/"thing with space" or use tab to fill out the word, ndookie
[04:43] <Warbo> landsg: cd "/this/path/will/all be taken as/literal/values so it doesnt/matter/if it has/spaces"
[04:43] <landsg> ardchoille:  OK, what about just using the cp command to handle multiple word directories?
[04:43] <ndookie> wweasel : i dont even get through pinging my router
[04:43] <lopro> sorry, im brand new with this
[04:44] <wweasel> ndookie: do you use WPA?
[04:44] <Warbo> lopro: You can only change the kernel you are running by selecting a different one at boot
[04:44] <whyami> ff
[04:44] <TalentedChimp> MrObvious found it thanks
[04:44] <whyami> ff
[04:44] <whyami> !ff
[04:44] <ndookie> wweasel : WPA ?
[04:44] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:44] <wweasel> ndookie: or, do you kno-w if your wifi card is properly configured
[04:44] <Warbo> lopro: Synaptic can install new ones
[04:44] <Trae> If I go to system > administration > shared folders   And share a folder via NFS, it installs 5 things [nfs, portmap, etc...]   { I rebooted }  I browse the network and don't see those shared folders.  I shared them on my local network 10.10.0.x
[04:44] <ardchoille> landsg: cp /path/files /path/new\ dir\   .. you have to escape the spaces with the "\"
[04:44] <ndookie> wweasel : yes , it is
[04:44] <MrObvious> TalentedChimp: You're welcome
[04:44] <wweasel> ndookie: The method of encryption on your wifi: None/WEP/WPA?
[04:45] <ndookie> its WEP
[04:45] <wweasel> ndookie: Alright. Have you tried connecting using System -> Administration -> NEtworking
[04:45] <ndookie> yes
[04:45] <wweasel> Does it work?
[04:45] <ndookie> nope
[04:45] <wweasel> Ethernet works?
[04:45] <Warbo> Anyone know why nvidia-glx isn't in Launchpad?
[04:46] <ndookie> well..i dont really have a method of trying that
[04:46] <ndookie> ive deactivated all other connections
[04:46] <ndookie> and the wlan0 is active
[04:46] <wildez> hey
[04:47] <foxiness> hi,i need to burn xubuntu and i see two choose "disc-at-once" and "track-at-once",what colude i choose here?
[04:47] <wweasel> ndookie: I am sorry, I am not expert enough to help you.  It is possible your wifi card isn't properly configured.
[04:47] <wildez> y a t'il qu'elle cun qui parle francais
[04:47] <wweasel> wildez: #ubuntu-fr
[04:47] <ndookie> ok , i understand
[04:47] <Warbo> foxiness: Both should be fine. Go with Track At Once to be on the safe side (I have had error messages which suggest that after a failure)
[04:47] <ndookie> but one question though
[04:47] <wweasel> ndookie: But I fear if I try to help you I might just waste your time.
[04:47] <Warbo> !fr
[04:48] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:48] <ndookie> how would i know which one my key is
[04:48] <wweasel> Sure
[04:48] <ndookie> ASCII or HEX
[04:48] <wildez> but i have a prob and nobody on #ubuntu-fr help me
[04:48] <ndookie> the key is 9e051d1ac1
[04:48] <wweasel> wildez: pm me if you like
[04:48] <Trae> Does anyone know if the system > administration > shared folders stuff is supposed to work at all?
[04:48] <Warbo> wildez: Do your best in here. I got a B in GCSE French :)
[04:48] <wweasel> wildez: I am bilingual.
[04:49] <foxiness> Warbo, thanks :)
[04:49] <Gareth^> bonjour, mon nom est toilette
[04:49] <wweasel> ndookie: I've never worked with anything but ascii keys before...
[04:49] <ndookie> well..that must be it then
[04:49] <BioGeek> Hey everybody, I have a directory full with pdfs, and I want to select those containg a certain keyword. I can get the keyword out of a single pdf with the command 'pdftotext my.pdf - | egrep keyword --color=always' but how do I proceed?
[04:49] <ndookie> hmm
[04:49] <wweasel> ndookie: ask someone else. try wikipedia? you could also check at your router.
[04:49] <wildez> wweasel peux tu m'aider
[04:50] <ndookie> yes , i shall
[04:50] <ndookie> thanks for you effort
[04:50] <ndookie> i'll stick around here and see if i can help anyone
[04:50] <wweasel> wildez: peut-etre, mais ils n'aiment pas quand on parle francais ici.
[04:50] <ardchoille> !fr
[04:50] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:50] <wweasel> ndookie: btw, about my cd question. Nero 4 linux exists?
[04:50] <wweasel> he's tried that ardchoille
[04:50] <ndookie> hmm , ive never heard of a nero for linux
[04:51] <ardchoille> wweasel: and?
[04:51] <Warbo> ndookie: It seems popular, but unneccisary
[04:51] <wildez> how i can talk to you in french beacose i am not very good in english
[04:51] <landsg> ardchoille/Warbo:  Example of doing cd:  cd /media/sdb1/xxxx xxxx  where xxxx is direcroty name.  Doesn't work.
[04:51] <nvez> holy jesus
[04:51] <wweasel> and I'll try to help him in PM. he says no one is helping him in fr.
[04:51] <nvez> eclipse-jdt - 128mb of a IDE
[04:51] <nvez> its better be good.
[04:51] <nvez> :p
[04:51] <ndookie> warbo : gnome or kde comes with enough bundled software to burn cd's or burn anything actually..
[04:51] <ardchoille> landsg: cd /media/sdb1/xxxx\ xxxx
[04:51] <wweasel> wildez: I pm'd you. you have a new message.
[04:52] <Warbo> landsg: You can't cd to a device liek that. You must mount it forst
[04:52] <Warbo> landsg: AA! Sorry!
[04:52] <wildez> where
[04:52] <Warbo> landsg: I just saw sdb1 and assumed the rest :)
[04:52] <Warbo> landsg: cd /media/sdb1/xxxx\ xxxx or cd "/media/sdb1/xxxx xxxx"
[04:52] <wildez> wweasel i dont have a new message
[04:53] <dick-richardson> I added repositories to get w32codecs and libdvdcss, so I'm not sure if the broken dependencies I'm getting are because of that or not...can anyone else install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse, and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse?
[04:53] <ardchoille> Warbo: Thank you, I didn't know the quoted version :)
[04:53] <caturOK> hello
[04:53] <wweasel> wildez: we'll talk in the #ubuntu-fr channel
[04:53] <caturOK> hmmm
[04:53] <wildez> ok
[04:53] <caturOK> help me about nocat plz
[04:53] <ardchoille> wweasel: Do you speak French?
[04:54] <wweasel> ardchoille: yes, i am bilingual.
[04:54] <ndookie> maybe i should try de-activating my adapter and then re-activating it
[04:54] <ndookie> and maybe d/cting it and reconnecting it
[04:54] <ardchoille> wweasel: Then you might be able to help others if you were to hang out in #ubuntu-fr :)
[04:54] <landsg> ardchoille:  not working;  if I am already in /media/sdb1, then what?
[04:55] <Dr4g> ndookie: try formatting your system, then boot up and it will play jingle bells from the PC Speaker, err... yeah.
[04:55] <wweasel> ardchoille: I know, but my mother tongue is English and my French is not perfect, though I studied it in the mother tongue classes.
[04:55] <josh> Im trying to play a dvd, but so far I can't get anything to work *I installed xine, and I am pretty sure that I have libdvdcss or whatever it is :/)
[04:55] <Warbo> landsg: If you are in it then: cd xxxx\ xxxx or cd "xxxx xxxx"
[04:55] <ardchoille> landsg: try cd "/media/sdb1/xxxx xxxx"
[04:55] <ardchoille> landsg: with the quotes
[04:56] <eugman> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-cups-manager/+bug/44196 Anyone know how to solve besides just ending the process? Would increasing the nice all the way help next time?
[04:56] <landsg> ardchoille/Warbo:  YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:56] <ndookie> anyhow
[04:56] <ndookie> im going to try out the forums
[04:56] <ndookie> thanks for the effort
[04:56] <Warbo> How do you do that stuff in GAIM? (the *** stuff)
[04:56] <ndookie> bye
[04:56] <lastnode> how do i make a fat32 fs in CLI?
[04:56] <wildez> wweasel i talk to you on ub...-fr
[04:56] <ardchoille> landsg: lol
[04:57] <chapium> argh!!! can someone tell me why every other inch of my screen is blurred?  I've fixed it in the past by fiddling with dri, but that isnt helping now
[04:57] <Warbo> landsg: So it didn't work then?
[04:57] <hondje> If so, it's /me stuff
[04:57] <Warbo> Thanks
[04:58] <wweasel> what do you guys use to burn CDs/DVDs?
[04:58] <eugman> wwweasel, gnomebaker
[04:58] <ardchoille> Warbo: it seems that cd /path/dir/new\ dir  didn't work for him.. it works here, but..
[04:58] <Warbo> wweasel: Nautilus, Gnomebaker, k3b
[04:59] <eugman> Warbo, I've found nautilus won't detect my usb burner.
[04:59] <lopro> i installed wine but cannot find it, what am i doing wrong?
[04:59] <ardchoille> wweasel: I like gnomebaker
[04:59] <Warbo> And XCDRoast on minimal systems (and cdrecord on stupidly lightweight)
[04:59] <wweasel> Warbo: A combination of all of them? Is one recommended?
[04:59] <landsg> ardchoille/Warbo:  nice humor;  I need that right now   ;-)
[04:59] <eugman> lopro, hidden directory. press ctrl + h and look in your home folder
[04:59] <lopro> whated to use it to run a windows prog, but does show up in apps
[04:59] <wweasel> ardchoille: thanks
[04:59] <lopro> ok
[04:59] <chapium> wweasel: are you writing data?  nautilus will work fine for that
[04:59] <Warbo> wweasel: I would recommend Nautilus for day-to-day stuff, and a Nero like program use Gnomebaker
[04:59] <eugman> no lopro
[05:00] <ardchoille> landsg: nah, you're doing fine.. just takes a bit of patience :)
[05:00] <eugman>  you use wine to run an exe
[05:00] <grecko> Hola a todos, hay alguien que me pueda ayudar?
[05:00] <Syco54645> how do i close gnome panel?  it is having an error
[05:00] <chapium> !es
[05:00] <Warbo> Serpentine writes audio CDs I think, but I have never made one
[05:00] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:00] <eugman> y either right click one and run with wine or
[05:00] <Syco54645> actually just the gnome clock applet
[05:00] <Maze_of_Torment> i just had to delete azureus............... nothing helped
[05:00] <dick-richardson> I added repositories to get w32codecs and libdvdcss, so I'm not sure if the broken dependencies I'm getting are because of that or not...can anyone else install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse, and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse?
[05:01] <Warbo> Syco54645: Go in System>Preferences>Session and on Running Processes make gnome-panel normal (not restart) then do "killall gnome-panel"
[05:01] <Syco54645> Warbo: that did it i think, well the clock didnt come back
[05:02] <Warbo> :)
[05:02] <Syco54645> hmmm
[05:02] <Syco54645> what about the gnome clock.
[05:02] <Syco54645> it seems to be broken
[05:02] <lopro> ok
[05:02] <VR_> how do i force my modem to get a new ip?
[05:02] <Syco54645> ah i got it
[05:03] <Syco54645> VR_: you dont, or change the mac address.
[05:03] <VR_> Syco54645: yes you do.
[05:04] <dick-richardson> how do you install the debian menu?
[05:04] <VR_> i'm testing if i can ban a specific ip to access a directory.
[05:04] <wweasel> VR_: Change the MAC address, power the modem off, power the modem on.
[05:04] <spades> VR_ depends on how your isp recycles ips\
[05:04] <Warbo> lopro: You can press ctrl-L to enter a location in Nautilus with the keyboard (so you can type hidden stuff). Also I think KDE menu actually has a Wine section IIRC
[05:04] <Syco54645> VR_: not that i have ever encountered.  all of my isps always gave me the same IP unless the mac address was changed
[05:04] <eugman> Warbo, if i have an application going bonkers and trying to absorb all the cpu will increasing the nice all the way take care of it temporarily?
[05:04] <VR_> wweasel: how would i change the MAC?
[05:04] <Warbo> dick-richardson: Install "menu" package
[05:04] <Syco54645> VR_: just like what wweasel said.
[05:04] <seagulltheme>  I have a very strange problem, I keep getting error messaged which, when googled, lead to forums about KDE.  but i'm on GNOME!  the only thing i did today was installed some wrong nvidia drivers and reverted back, i have no idea why it is doing this.  anyone have any idea of how to solve this?
[05:04] <wweasel> VR_: Depending on what you have hooked up to the modem. IS your PC connected directly to your modem?
[05:04] <whyami> has anybody used a WinCE device with ubuntu?
[05:04] <VR_> wweasel: yes it is.
[05:04] <Warbo> eugman: Hopefully. Your CPU will still be full, but your other apps will get what they need
[05:05] <roostishaw> how can i retain the text i copy, even after i close the source application?
[05:05] <Warbo> roostishaw: Paste it somewgere else :)
[05:05] <wweasel> Anyone here no how to spoof a MAC? I don't...I only know how easy it is in a Router.
[05:05] <Syco54645> i know how to change the mac address in linux
[05:05] <Syco54645> let me remember
[05:06] <VR_> wweasel: spoof? that sounds... illegal?
[05:06] <lopro> i am so lost, lol
[05:06] <VR_> wweasel: I found something here > http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=security/changemac
[05:06] <VR_> not sure if that's ok.
[05:06] <Syco54645> VR_: they make cards that can hold 10 mac addresses
[05:06] <roostishaw> Warbo, is that really the only solution? i know ill get flammed for this, but is there an app that will copy it to a "standard" clipbord... like in... um... winblows?
[05:06] <Warbo> lopro: Yes, the Windows filesystem structure is confusing :)
[05:06] <seagulltheme> so noone knows why gnome thinks it's running gnu?
[05:07] <wweasel> nope, it's not. the MAC is set in the hardware, but it can be "spoofed", changed to somethign else. not illegal. but this is beyond me. Syco knows how to help you.
[05:07] <wweasel> VR_: Good luck.
[05:07] <Simthumb> hello, I'm having problems installing Ubuntu on XP
[05:07] <lopro> i have a windows program in my cd drive and i am trying to open it with wine, i right click and open with other program, and wine doesnt show up, AHHHH!! lol
[05:07] <Simthumb> I read the Dualboot HowTo guide,
[05:07] <Warbo> roostishaw: I think there was one on the Ubuntu Guide. I think I have found that it is saved between apps (when you use copy, not cut)
[05:07] <Simthumb> followed it carefuly,
[05:07] <Simthumb> and I get to step 7,
[05:07] <seagulltheme> simthumb, what's step 7
[05:07] <Syco54645> VR_: the option is hw.  i was checking the manpage
[05:08] <VR_> Syco54645: i found this command that's supposed to do it > ifconfig eth0 down hw ether 00:00:00:00:00:01
[05:08] <roostishaw> Warbo, "saved between apps"... thats what i meant
[05:08] <Simthumb> I click edit Partitions manually,
[05:08] <Warbo> lopro: Have you tried running it on the command line with "wine programname.exe"?
[05:08] <Simthumb> it takes about 10 minutes to load,
[05:08] <Warbo> !enter
[05:08] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[05:08] <lopro> how do i get to a command line?
[05:08] <Simthumb> (Step 7 is to click Manually edit partition tables in Ubuntu Setup)
[05:08] <Warbo> lopro: Applications>Accessories>Terminal?
[05:08] <Simthumb> and after that,
[05:09] <lopro> so it would be "wine setup.exe" is this right?
[05:09] <Syco54645> VR_: that will do it.  i wrote a script when i was in the dorm to cycle my mac address to mess with the system admins, that is how i know how to do it.  they also make cards that can hold up to 10 address that can be programmed into an eeprom on them and changed when ever you feel like it, but i think they have them set when you buy them
[05:09] <Warbo> Simthumb: Could you please try to use punctuation and not enter? Thanks
[05:09] <Simthumb> in the guide it says to click whatever partition I want to install Ubuntu on
[05:09] <Simthumb> oh
[05:09] <Simthumb> I'm in trillian
[05:09] <VR_> Syco54645: thanks. one more question...
[05:09] <Simthumb> I click enter to send
[05:09] <seagulltheme> lopro, right click the program, click "open with.." and then "use a custom command" and in there type "wine"
[05:09] <Syco54645> VR_: sure
[05:09] <Simthumb> punctuation? :|
[05:09] <Warbo> lopro: Yes, if you are in the right directory
[05:09] <VR_> stephan__: the numerical value at the end; what's that supposed to do?
[05:09] <VR_> err
[05:09] <VR_> Syco54645*
[05:10] <Simthumb> is it still doing whatever it's doing now? I'm clicking send instead now
[05:10] <Syco54645> did they ever finish the wine project to emulate the start menu
[05:10] <lopro> ok, i'll see what i can do
[05:10] <Warbo> Simthumb: Erm, . , : ; ` ! < that stuff?
[05:10] <Simthumb> I'm using punctuation not enter...
[05:10] <roostishaw> Warbo, is a "clipboard daemon" what im looking for?
[05:10] <Warbo> roostishaw: Yes I think
[05:10] <roostishaw> Warbo, thank you!
[05:10] <Warbo> !ubuntuguide
[05:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuntuguide
[05:10] <Simthumb> anyway, I get to that step,
[05:11] <dragon> hey guys, i've installed limewire but it won't open (or do anything) when i tell it to, so i downloaded frostwire, but it does the same thing...    :o( any suggestions..
[05:11] <slew> is there a good how-to for port forwarding/firewalling available?
[05:11] <Simthumb> and all that's there is IDE2 hdc1 or something and "Unallocated"
[05:11] <Warbo> Simthumb: You know what? I am,
[05:11] <Warbo> Simthumb: Using some, you know,
[05:11] <Warbo> Simthumb: Punctuation? But AS WELL
[05:11] <Warbo> Simthumb: As enter
[05:11] <lopro> it says wine created successfully
[05:11] <Simthumb> um...
[05:11] <lopro> then wine program arguments.....
[05:11] <Simthumb> I am doing that
[05:12] <Simthumb> I am in trillian - is that doing something?
[05:12] <seagulltheme> no
[05:12] <seagulltheme> pm me simthumb
[05:12] <Simthumb> how?
[05:12] <seagulltheme> um
[05:12] <seagulltheme> scroll down to my name on the user list
[05:12] <seagulltheme> right click
[05:12] <Warbo> dragon: You have Java?
[05:12] <seagulltheme> 'private message' or something
[05:12] <Simthumb> ohhhh
[05:12] <Fivesheep> help, anyone uses proftpd here?
[05:13] <dragon> yeah i have java.
[05:13] <Warbo> dragon: Try finding the .jar file and running "java -jar filename.jar"
[05:14] <dragon> it said something bout putting java in the path or something...but i'm slow :o)
[05:14] <stephan__> how do i use hot plug
[05:14] <lopro> attempting a chat with you SEAGULLTHEME, if thats okay?
[05:14] <Warbo> stephan__: It should be automatic (that's the point)
[05:14] <seagulltheme> yes
[05:14] <Simthumb> seagull I pmed you
[05:14] <seagulltheme> i'm not recieving
[05:14] <seagulltheme> do you have AIM?
[05:14] <Simthumb> no I have yahoo
[05:15] <seagulltheme> that's impossible, noone uses yahoo
[05:15] <arthurgeek> Hello all! I installed XGl with Compiz on my Ubuntu Dapper. Everything is working fine (and it rocks!). But, gset-compiz don't save the changes. And yes, I'm running compizwith gconf setting. Can anyone help me? or point me to another room, where i can get hel (if this subject os so off-topic here)
[05:15] <Simthumb> but I'm currently in trillian
[05:15] <stephan__> Warbo, well im trying to get my zen mplayer player to work with libnjb....i can see it in the lsusb but gnomad2 doesnt see
[05:15] <Simthumb> Trillian messenger I mean - I have a yahoo account though lol
[05:15] <chapium> anyone have trouble with opera displaying hyroglyphics?
[05:15] <stephan__> Warbo, is their another way to test and see if its their or somethig else to do
[05:15] <juantao> Hello, I'm trying to set up gpg and lanuchpad has mailed me a messge I must decrypt. How do I do that in a terminal?
[05:15] <seagulltheme> simthumb, message "jellocube2001" on yahoo
[05:16] <chapium> it looks more like butchered korean actually
[05:16] <Simthumb> ok
[05:16] <Warbo> stephan__: I have no experience with that sorry. If you know the device name (/dev/something) and the mountpoint (/media/something) then that is usually all you need
[05:16] <roostishaw> what was the major way to speed up the gui of firefox on ubuntu? it had to do with tango or pango or something. im looking for the ubuntu forums thread... anyone?
[05:16] <dragon> Warbo where would this .jar file be?
[05:17] <stephan__> Warbo, that is only with the ipods ...unfortantlly zens are different
[05:17] <Warbo> dragon: /usr/lib/frostwire maybe?
[05:17] <Warbo> stephan__: Well I have a NEUROS so I wouldn't know
[05:17] <dragon> lol...cheers..
[05:18] <Maze_of_Torment> i couldnt get xgl to install correctly ............... had to re-install dapper altogether
[05:18] <lopro> this ubuntu thing is kickin my butt
[05:18] <lopro> lol
[05:18] <elknof1> can someone help me with the line dpkg reconfigure Xserver...   its that i dont remeber how was the whole line to reconfigure Xserver
[05:18] <Warbo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:18] <dli> elkbuntu, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:19] <juantao> anyone tell me how to decrypt a email message using gpg in a terminal window?
[05:19] <lopro> sent you a chat again Seagull
[05:19] <roostishaw> what was the major way to speed up the gui of firefox on ubuntu? it had to do with tango or pango or something. im looking for the ubuntu forums thread... anyone?
[05:20] <Warbo> roostishaw: Tango is a unified set of icons, Pango is text rendering. Probably Pango
[05:20] <roostishaw> Warbo, ya. would you happen to know the url to the thread? im looking now...
[05:20] <lopro> im in a term window, trying to install a window based program from a cd, is this possible, or does it need to be on the hard drive?
[05:20] <Warbo> roostishaw: No idea. I use Epiphany anyway
[05:21] <staulkor> hey
[05:21] <roostishaw> Warbo, why epiphany? just curious...
[05:21] <Warbo> lopro: Linux doesn't give a crap where a file is. It could be on the other side of the world over NFS, that is the beauty of the filesystem
[05:21] <Warbo> roostishaw: Because it is better than Firefox :)
[05:21] <seagulltheme> lopro, i don't think PMing is working for some reason
[05:21] <roostishaw> Warbo, how so?
[05:21] <dragon> Warbo, which .jar file am i looking for? lol theres quite a few...
[05:22] <lopro> yeah, just said waiting for you
[05:22] <lopro> to accept
[05:22] <lopro> no biggy
[05:22] <seagulltheme> hmm
[05:22] <seagulltheme> gaim is weird
[05:22] <seagulltheme> if you have aim, message this screen name
[05:22] <Warbo> roostishaw: It automatically downloads stuff on one click, it has a bookmarking system which is WAY better than FF's and it has a better GTK integration (and no stupid plugins)
[05:22] <lopro> me, i use gaim, through my yahoo acct
[05:23] <seagulltheme> jesus, why is everyone using yahoo tonight
[05:23] <roostishaw> Warbo, ok, good enough, and thanks for the help!
[05:23] <seagulltheme> yahoo-->  jellocube2001
[05:23] <lopro> lol
[05:23] <Warbo> dragon: "frostwire.jar" would be my bet :)
[05:23] <lopro> let me try anyhow
[05:23] <dragon> yeah, that's what i thought...what now?
[05:24] <Warbo> dragon: What happens when you do "java -jar filename.jar"?
[05:24] <dragon> bash: java: file not found
[05:24] <dragon> **command** not file
[05:24] <Warbo> dragon: Oh, do you use sun-java5-bin?
[05:25] <dragon> how do i check?
[05:25] <dragon> :o)
[05:25] <Warbo> dragon: "sudo dpkg -l | grep java"
[05:25] <lopro> it just says that you arent listed on the server, seagull
[05:25] <elknof1> Warbo, thanks...
[05:26] <staulkor> i just installed ubuntu to a 4gb flash drive and im trying to boot now. I found a tutorial and it says i need to make the initrd image and im tyring to run 'mkinitrd' but the command is not found
[05:27] <dragon> warbo i cant see a sun-java5-bin
[05:27] <Warbo> staulkor: What is the URL of the guide?
[05:27] <staulkor> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-5151.html
[05:27] <staulkor> 5th post
[05:27] <dragon> java-common & java2-common
[05:27] <staulkor> using 6.06
[05:27] <Fatal> back on ubuntu i go
[05:27] <staulkor> and the drive is /dev/sda
[05:28] <lopro> i have a cd program in the drive, what command do i give Wine to install it?
[05:28] <Warbo> staulkor: I think it is "mkinitramfs"
[05:28] <seagulltheme> lopro
[05:28] <seagulltheme> what is the drive letter
[05:28] <lopro> should be d:
[05:28] <seagulltheme> type "cd d:'
[05:28] <Warbo> dragon: "sudo dpkg -l | grep gcj" "sudo dpkg -l | grep j2re1.4"
[05:29] <dragon> warbo: no such file or dir.
[05:29] <lopro> says bash: cd d:   no such file or directory????
[05:29] <Warbo> staulkor: I actually found out a method of doing this myself, and I wrote it on the Ubuntu Wiki
[05:30] <ang> Hi, I'm doing the broadcom driver HOWTO (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper) and I'm getting an error that says this: E: Couldn't find package bcm43xx-fwcutter
[05:30] <cjones> DOES ANYBODY KNOW OF A GUI INTERFACE FOR CONFIGUREING AND MANAGEING APACHE
[05:30] <staulkor> awesome, could you lihnke me please
[05:30] <staulkor> link*
[05:30] <Warbo> dragon: Try: grep "using quotes lie this" intead in those
[05:30] <Warbo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootFromUsb
[05:30] <Fatal> how do i find out what version of xorg i have
[05:30] <Warbo> I think
[05:30] <staulkor> page not found
[05:31] <Warbo> cjones: See that little light? It's called CapsLock.......
[05:31] <cjones> YEAH I KNOW ITS STUCK I AM VERY SORRY BUT ITS THE ONLY KEYBOARD I HAVE
[05:31] <staulkor> wait
[05:31] <staulkor> i may have found it
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[05:31] <staulkor> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB
[05:32] <seagulltheme> lopro:  "cd /media/cdrom"
[05:32] <ang> Anyone?
[05:32] <lopro> poor cjones
[05:32] <Maze_of_Torment> i hate that
[05:32] <Maze_of_Torment> when it gets stuck
[05:32] <Maze_of_Torment> lol
[05:32] <dragon> warbo  "im lost"      lol
[05:32] <lopro> everyone thinks he's yellin at em
[05:32] <Warbo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootFromUSB
[05:32] <lopro> ok
[05:33] <Warbo> That came up in Epipahny and I roght clicked, copy link locationed
[05:33] <seagulltheme> now type "wine setup.exe"
[05:33] <ardchoille> cjones: You can hold down the shift key when you type and that will put the case back into lower
[05:33] <lopro> it keeps saying cannot fin
[05:33] <Warbo> dragon: Go in Synaptic and see if you have gcj installed, sun-java5-bin installed and/or j2re1.4 installed
[05:34] <lopro> find
[05:34] <seagulltheme> it cant find the cdrom?
[05:34] <cjones> ok thanks its just real hard to type this way
[05:34] <lopro> no
[05:34] <lopro> i dont get it
[05:34] <ardchoille> cjones: I understand, but it will keep you from being yelled at by others :)
[05:34] <cjones> thsaNks
[05:34] <dragon> warbo: in the frostwire readme it says "You must place Sun's JRE in the path prior to launching FrostWire"         - what's that mean... lol
[05:35] <dm_> Hey guys, how does one STOP X from running, Nvidia prop drivers arent installing while X is running
[05:35] <Warbo> dragon: "echo $PATH"
[05:35] <ljlolel_> i love ubuntu!
[05:35] <Warbo> dm_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:35] <seagulltheme> i love ubuntu too!
[05:35] <dm_> thanks warbo
[05:35] <Warbo> dm_: You are using the Ubuntu packages aren't you?
[05:36] <ang> Hi, I'm doing the broadcom driver HOWTO (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper) and I'm getting an error that says this: E: Couldn't find package bcm43xx-fwcutter. Any help?
[05:36] <ardchoille> Warbo: gdm == x ?
[05:36] <dm_> warbo nope, Nvidia prop drivers of their site, 3d from nv drivers suck
[05:36] <Warbo> GDM launches X
[05:36] <Warbo> dm_: nvidia driver is in Ubuntu already
[05:36] <staulkor> Warbo: the boot cd is optional, correct? because the computers i will be running this on can boot from USB
[05:36] <ardchoille> Warbo: I always use sudo init3  .. is that a bad thing?
[05:36] <dragon> warbo: what do i do next?
[05:36] <lopro> any good way to get ubuntu to see a cdrom?
[05:36] <Warbo> Nooo! lost him!
[05:37] <seagulltheme> lopro:  only if it detects the cdrom
[05:37] <cjones> does anybody know of a gui management/config tool for apache
[05:37] <seagulltheme> go to /media/
[05:37] <seagulltheme> and see if its there
[05:37] <Warbo> staulkor: If they can boot from USB then you shouldn't need to do anything special
[05:37] <lopro> it does
[05:37] <lopro> it opened it, and showed the files
[05:37] <seagulltheme> okay
[05:37] <seagulltheme> then right click setup.exe
[05:37] <seagulltheme> click "open with"
[05:37] <lopro> ok
[05:38] <seagulltheme> in "custom command" type "wine"
[05:38] <seagulltheme> that should do it
[05:38] <lopro> ok
[05:38] <lopro> lemme try it
[05:38] <apunahsap> hello
[05:38] <seagulltheme> hey there
[05:38] <Warbo> dragon: Install sun-java5-bin, and just to be on the safe side, j2re1.4 then you can do java -jar filename.jar and the proper program launcher should work too
[05:39] <staulkor> ok
[05:39] <Warbo> !java > dragon
[05:39] <dm_> Warbo now it wants to check GCC but i do not have a compatable GCC, which one do i install ?
[05:39] <Warbo> staulkor: You may want to put the modules into the initrd just to be safe
[05:39] <Warbo> staulkor: But you won;t need a CD
[05:39] <dragon> ok, where do i get it from? the java site or is it a package in synaptic?
[05:39] <staulkor> ok
[05:39] <Warbo> dm_: Ah, glad you're back
[05:39] <staulkor> well i think i may have just found my problem
[05:40] <Warbo> dm_: do "sudo apt-get install module-assistant"
[05:40] <staulkor> i installed this on a laptop that had ubuntu and windows dual booted
[05:40] <dm_> Warbo : ) <----- first time with a Nvidia card under linus : )
[05:40] <apunahsap> anybody setup mythtv on ubnuntu?
[05:40] <staulkor> and it is looking for /dev/hda2 which is the ext3 partition for ubuntu on my laptop
[05:40] <Warbo> dm_: Ah, so Linux likes to go on top does he? :)
[05:40] <staulkor> im booting it on another laptop
[05:40] <Warbo> Sorry, poor taste
[05:40] <staulkor> and its looking for something that doesnt exist
[05:40] <Warbo> Missed the joke! It was LINUS, not X :)
[05:40] <dm_> Warbo crap i must be missing a repo, can you poastebin your sources?
[05:40] <Warbo> dm_: Do you have Universe?
[05:41] <TalentedChimp> which repo do you need for j2re1.4?
[05:41] <dm_> warbo i been away from linux for a while
[05:41] <dm_> warbo Universe ?
[05:41] <staulkor> er...im gonna reinstall and get back to you War o
[05:41] <Warbo> dm_: Gimme a sec...
[05:42] <lopro> i cant find custom command
[05:42] <Warbo> !paste
[05:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:42] <Warbo> TalentedChimp: Universe
[05:42] <seagulltheme> you right clicked  it, and chose open with?
[05:43] <seagulltheme> and below the scroll box it doesn't say anything?
[05:43] <apunahsap> how can i add an application to start at boot ?
[05:43] <dm_> Warbo i just need the apt line
[05:44] <Warbo> dm_: Here is my sources.list, full of crud http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17668
[05:44] <Warbo> !easysource
[05:44] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:44] <Warbo> apunahsap: Put a script in /etc/init.d
[05:45] <lopro> i opened it in a terminal, i couldnt find custom command, says"wine program arguments
[05:45] <dragon> warbo: where do i get sun-java5-bin?
[05:45] <seagulltheme> noo
[05:45] <seagulltheme> lopro dont open it in terminal
[05:45] <Warbo> dragon: multiverse
[05:45] <dm_> warbo lols ive fortten where the souce list is
[05:45] <seagulltheme> right click it in file manage, click open with other application
[05:45] <dragon> kk
[05:45] <Warbo> !java
[05:45] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:45] <Warbo> !multiverse
[05:45] <lopro> "open with" does come up
[05:45] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:46] <TalentedChimp> i'm using the std repos that come with the ubuntu install, no jre
[05:46] <dragon> i just saw the ubotu msg lol thnx
[05:46] <seagulltheme> that is impossible >_<
[05:46] <Warbo> lol
[05:46] <seagulltheme> and cd /media/cdrom/ doesn't work?
[05:46] <lopro> ok, other app, then what app?
[05:46] <wrathlo> hi i would like to ask what the roor password is...
[05:46] <wrathlo> root password, i mean
[05:46] <Warbo> TalentedChimp: You have Universe?
[05:46] <TalentedChimp> yes
[05:47] <lopro>  i have no where to type anything yet
[05:47] <Warbo> wrathlo: You should be so lucky. It is scrambled
[05:47] <Warbo> !rootsudo
[05:47] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:47] <seagulltheme> you click "use custom command"
[05:47] <seagulltheme> at the bottom of the window
[05:47] <seagulltheme> and then type wine
[05:47] <seagulltheme> and then you press ok
[05:47] <TalentedChimp> warbo although, i'm actually using edubuntu, if that makes a difference
[05:47] <seagulltheme> and it opens it with wine and it gets all fucked up because nothing works in WINE the first time
[05:47] <Warbo> TalentedChimp: The repos are the same
[05:47] <lopro> wow
[05:47] <TalentedChimp> i haven't gone to source-o-matic, should i?
[05:48] <lopro> it worked youre awesome!!!!
[05:48] <lopro> thank you so much
[05:48] <seagulltheme> you're welcome
[05:48] <dm_> Warbo whats the path of my sources.lst ?  im having a brain fart
[05:48] <Warbo> TalentedChimp: No need. Maybe look in Multiverse but I thiught it was in Universe
[05:48] <cjones> man pastebin is slow today
[05:48] <Warbo> dm_: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:48] <dm_> thanks
[05:48] <TalentedChimp> warbo i have all the repos selected
[05:48] <jorgeu> Warbo: i fixed the problem with gtk-engine by uninstalling gtk2-engines-ubuntulook
[05:49] <Warbo> TalentedChimp: Do you have sun-java5?
[05:49] <TalentedChimp> from the repos? no
[05:49] <wrathlo> im trying to install my printer but i dont know how
[05:49] <Warbo> TalentedChimp: It is apparently better (since it is made by Sun)
[05:49] <wrathlo> please help me
[05:49] <Warbo> !printer
[05:50] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:50] <jorgeu> !ubuntulook
[05:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuntulook
[05:51] <TalentedChimp> warbo downloading fron sun now
[05:52] <Maze_of_Torment> i'd like xgl installed but i messed it up first go around so i had to do a complete re-install of ubuntu
[05:52] <roostishaw> what command do i put in my devilspie .ds file to make it so that the matched window won't minimize when I click the 'show desktop' button?
[05:52] <Warbo> TalentedChimp: Why from Sun? Get it from Multiverse!
[05:52] <TalentedChimp> warbo i don't have a package called sun-anything
[05:52] <Warbo> TalentedChimp: Then use source-o-matic then
[05:52] <Warbo> wow, 2 thens
[05:53] <technician> i m trying to connect with squid proxy but i cannot ping ?
[05:53] <technician> to any website but i can access what is the possible reason ?
[05:53] <dion> is anyone familiar with the package ipcheck package?
[05:53] <Warbo> technician: Many browsers have independant PROXY configs from the system
[05:54] <roostishaw> what command do i put in my devilspie .ds file to make it so that the matched window won't minimize when I click the 'show desktop' button?
[05:54] <Warbo> dm_: You have module-assistant yet?
[05:54] <jorgeu> technician: an example is firefox
[05:55] <cjones> could some one tell me what causes this ?      http://pastebin.com/744335
[05:55] <Mewshi> hi guys
[05:55] <stephan__> how do i restart hotplug
[05:56] <dm_> Warbo yep just got it
[05:56] <dm_> warbo what next : )
[05:56] <stephan__> i have a zen mplayer play i can see with lsusb but i cant see if with gnomad2 .....anyone got any ideas
[05:56] <Warbo> dm_: OK, "sudo m-a" and it is pretty straightforward
[05:57] <CarlFK> cjones: you need to post more, like what command you used
[05:57] <dm_> Warbo seems pretty fancy, lol
[05:57] <roostishaw> what command do i put in my devilspie .ds file to make it so that the matched window won't minimize when I click the 'show desktop' button?
[05:57] <cjones> carlFK i was just useing update man in gui
[05:57] <dm_> warbo i guess im doing it right , we'll know when i fook it up
[05:58] <Warbo> dm_: Prepare it then select nvidia, get, build, install then replace the 2D "nv" driver with the 3D "nvidia" one in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and maybe put "nvidia" in /etc/modules as well
[05:58] <dm_> warbo uh ok..
[05:59] <dm_> warbo  i think its gonna want to stop X agian, ugh :P
[05:59] <technician> anyone can help me with squid ? ??????
[05:59] <technician> i am having a tough time just on one point ? please
[05:59] <Dial_tone> anyone familiar with easytag? I can't edit multiple files at once
[05:59] <dion> is anyone familiar with the package ipcheck package?
[06:00] <roostishaw> what command do i put in my devilspie .ds file to make it so that the matched window won't minimize when I click the 'show desktop' button?
[06:00] <TalentedChimp> warbo got it, me not knowing how to use synaptic, been using mandriva
[06:00] <CarlFK> technician: I am guessing you need to do one little thing :)
[06:00] <Warbo> dm_: you can do it all inside X then restart it when you have it recongigured
[06:01] <dm_> Warbo ah well cool , then i can stay on : )
[06:01] <jon_> Could someone tell me how to get Root again? I forgot :\
[06:01] <dm_>  Warbo things have really changed, i like the new looks :
[06:01] <Warbo> !sudoroot
[06:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about sudoroot
[06:01] <jon_> Thank you! I kenw it was something like that :D
[06:01] <Warbo> !rootsudo
[06:01] <dm_> !monkies
[06:01] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about monkies
[06:01] <dm_> ubotu monkes
[06:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about monkes
[06:02] <dm_> ubotu used to say some cool stuff :
[06:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about used to say some cool stuff :
[06:02] <Warbo> jon_: "sudo -s -H", "sudo -i", "sudo su", "sudo bash", "sudo sh"
[06:02] <jon_> ty
[06:02] <Warbo> In that order of preference
[06:02] <jon_> Thanks =] 
[06:03] <CarlFK> Warbo: please don't help people hurt themselves
[06:03] <seagulltheme> hehe
[06:03] <Warbo> CarlFK: He asked. And I gave the !rootsudo first (well, second)
[06:03] <[Ex0r] > hmm
[06:04] <CarlFK> Warbo: again: please don't.
[06:04] <lepine> greetings everyone
[06:05] <cef> btw: 'sudo -s -H' is still harmful - it's better to use 'sudo -i'
[06:05] <Warbo> I have found that the DISPLAY is not set in sudo -i, but it is in sudo -s -H
[06:05] <lepine> has anyone installed ubuntu on a dell 9150, or atleast with a sata drive? the installer seems to hang when it proposes to create space or let the user do partitioning ...
[06:06] <eobanb> why use sudo -s -H when you can use gksudo
[06:06] <firebird619> What repository to I need to have to install MythTV and all of its dependencies? I added deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main to the sources.list file, but I get messages that other certain packages are dependencies but they won't be installed or aren't installable.
[06:06] <lepine> the documents i
[06:06] <cef> Warbo: use gksudo then
[06:06] <lepine> 've found mentionned changing mobis and stuff i don't really feel like doing
[06:06] <Warbo> gksudo doesn't give terminal output, and it doesn't give you a terminal
[06:06] <eobanb> firebird619, mythtv should already be in the ubuntu repository
[06:06] <eobanb> why would you need DISPLAY set for command line app
[06:07] <dm_> Warbo which package do i select? xorg?
[06:07] <Warbo> dm_: nvidia
[06:07] <firebird619> eobanb: I thought it should have been too, but it wasn't. I always run sudo apt-get update before I search for packages and even after updating it didn't have any mythtv packages until I added that repo that I listed above in my message.
[06:08] <dm_> Warbo get, build, or install ?
[06:08] <lepine> anyone?
[06:08] <VR_> damn i hate azureus!
[06:08] <eobanb> firebird619, it's in multiverse.....
[06:08] <Warbo> one, then the next, then the last
[06:08] <eobanb> !multiverse
[06:08] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:08] <VR_> !torrent
[06:08] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt) Bittorent faq: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[06:08] <firebird619> I have the multiverse repo in the sources.list file and it isn't commented out. What could the problem be?
[06:09] <Warbo> firebird619: You sure it isn't backports multiverse?
[06:09] <jon_> Can someone help me..I get this error.. "./zDSBot3-2120: error while loading shared libraries: libstdcc+.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:09] <dm_> Warbo was that to me ? "one, then the next then the las"?
[06:09] <eobanb> firebird619, i doubt you really have multiverse in your sources.list
[06:09] <Warbo> dm_: Yes, Get it then build it then install it
[06:10] <Hobbsee> jon_: search packages.ubuntu.com to see which package has that file, and install it.
[06:10] <dm_> Warbo but is it going to install the Proprietary driver from Nvidea
[06:10] <firebird619> I also just tried installing kino, which went ok and is now installed, but I tried then to install kino dvtitler, and it says it depends on kino, but kino won't be installed, yet it is already installed.
[06:10] <jon_> Thanks
[06:10] <dm_> Warbo the installer i downloaded
[06:10] <Hobbsee> jon_: there's a search box - one for packages, and then one for files.  the files one is the one you want
[06:10] <jon_> Okay, thanks=] 
[06:10] <Warbo> dm_: Yes, that's what the nvidia driver is. The 2D nv driver doesn't need this module-assistant crap because it is automatic
[06:10] <eobanb> firebird619, that probably has to do with the fact that you added some random other repository to your sources.list
[06:11] <Warbo> dm_: It will install the nvidia driver which is already in Ubuntu
[06:11] <dm_> Warbo oh okie
[06:11] <eobanb> firebird619, or it's just saying that you're fine because you have kino already
[06:11] <xice> anyone have any experience with beautiful soup??? if so PM me
[06:11] <firebird619> eobanb: My mistake, the multiverse is only on the backports, which Warbo just mentioned. Which repo do I add multiverse to?
[06:11] <landsg> Warbol/ardchoille:  Hello, back again.  I am trying to migrate the last few files over via to my laptop via usb stick.  When I go put the stick back into the PC, it doesn't mount it properly. Any ideas?
[06:12] <roostishaw> what command do i put in my devilspie .ds file to make it so that the matched window won't minimize when I click the 'show desktop' button?
[06:12] <dm_> Warbo how do i know its done right?
[06:12] <eobanb> !multiverse
[06:12] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:12] <Warbo> firebird619: The line about "universe" (with the "not supported" bit)
[06:12] <eobanb> ^---read that please, firebird619
[06:12] <Warbo> dm_: After it's installed exit and do "sudo modprobe nvidia"
[06:12] <dm_> Warbo nothing came back
[06:13] <Warbo> dm_: Good, then it's installed
[06:13] <firebird619> eobanb: Ok, Thank You
[06:13] <dm_> Warbo whats the command for the glxgears with FPS report?
[06:13] <Warbo> dm_: Open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf and cange "nv" to "nvidia" and maybe add a line under that one which says "Option             "NoLogo"          "true""
[06:14] <Warbo> dm_: You will need to tell Xorg to use the nvidia driver, then restart
[06:14] <Warbo> (Xorg, not the computer)
[06:14] <jon_> I've been searching the site and cannot find libstdcc+.so.5
[06:14] <lepine> does ubuntu support sata out of the box ?
[06:14] <Warbo> glxgears -printfps I think (it says that's not an option for me though :( )
[06:14] <Trae> sudo mount 10.10.0.8:/home/my_user/myFiles myFiles   <-- this command just sits there.... forever it seems, and then it finally goes thourgh and it works.  I thought it might be ipv6, but it isn't.  I disabled ipv6.
[06:15] <Warbo> jon_: linstdc++.so.5
[06:15] <Warbo> jon_: "ls /lib/libstdc*"
[06:15] <cef> Trae: are you specifying the type of FS to mount?
[06:16] <Trae> cef, not above, no
[06:16] <Trae> the above command is what I'm using
[06:16] <dm_> warbo BRB
[06:16] <jon_> Didn't work.
[06:16] <Warbo> Anyone know why nvidia-glx is not in Launchpad's list of packages? I need to file a bug about it's dependencies
[06:17] <Warbo> jon_: That command shows you what libraries you have which have "libstdc" at the beginning. There may not be a .so.5, but there may be a .so.6 or something which you could make a link to
[06:18] <Geoffrey2> when you're installing an application, which directory do you typically want to install it under?
[06:18] <jon_> No it's not showing anything. Says no such file or directory.
[06:18] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: In Syanptic it will go in /usr. Manually use checkinstall to put it in /usr/local
[06:18] <Warbo> jon_: Try /usr/lib
[06:18] <jon_> ls /lib worked
[06:18] <el_alexluna> hi all!
[06:19] <eobanb> welcome, el_alexluna
[06:19] <Warbo> jon_: Yeah, but you can't link a random library to replace an unrelated one
[06:19] <Geoffrey2> Warbo, um, what is checkinstall?
[06:19] <Warbo> !checkinstall
[06:19] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[06:19] <jon_> In ls /lib I see a quit libc.so.6
[06:20] <megasquid> anyone have a guide to setting up sound in 6.06
[06:20] <el_alexluna> how i can boot from de cd without gnome?
[06:20] <Warbo> jon_: libc is for C, linstdc++ is something to do with C++ (they are very different)
[06:20] <Bassetts> el_alexluna, you need the alternate cd for that
[06:21] <jon_> libstdc++.so.5 is what I ned though..Not linstdc++
[06:21] <Warbo> jon_: In case you didn't notice, the ".so.X" are links to the ".so" files anyway
[06:22] <Warbo> jon_: Your program is just out of date and doesn't know the new one
[06:23] <Geoffrey2> Warbo, the application is a .bin file that self installs...I'm assuming I wouldn't need checkinstall for that then?
[06:23] <lepine> could someone help me out installing ubuntu on a sata drive that doesn't seem to be recognized ?
[06:23] <lepine> please
[06:23] <tga> hey, my Beagle search doesn't return any results
[06:23] <tga> any idea what could be wrong?
[06:24] <Drasla> does anyone know how I can create a folder either on boot, or on inetd initialization?
[06:24] <racarter> apt-get install acl... is that all I need to enable acls in ubuntu?
[06:24] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: Those are the worst. Maybe you could trap it in a fakeroot and build a package out of it that way?
[06:24] <racarter> or do I have to do anything else for the kernel or for nautilus?
[06:24] <Warbo> Drasla: Put a script containing mkdir in /etc/init.d and read "man update-rc.d"
[06:25] <rebelfallen> I have a list of emails I want to send to, but I want to use a program that can send multiple emails at once. Anyone have some suggestions?
[06:26] <Warbo> OK, I'm tired now. Bye
[06:26] <Drasla> Warbo: I thought init.d was just for daemons?
[06:26] <Ash-Fox> rebelfallen, can't you just include multiple TO: fields and let the mail server handle sending the multiple e-mails?
[06:26] <jon_> I got the file I was looking for but when I try to put it in the /lib folder it won't allow me to..Anyway to bypass that?
[06:28] <iamcitizen> i have a problem. when I try to run "startx" it tries to load it, but then it comes back and says "could not open default cursor font 'cursor'"
[06:28] <iamcitizen> any ideas?
[06:28] <rebelfallen> Ash-Fox: I don't want everyone to see who is in the TO field.
[06:28] <Ash-Fox> jon_, sudo well let you 'bypass'.
[06:28] <Geoffrey2> sadly, RealPlayer 10 only comes in a .bin package, so that's what I have to work with
[06:28] <Ash-Fox> rebelfallen, you could use CC: or BCC: fields, I forget which one hides the e-mails.
[06:28] <jon_> What would the command be to move the file from one dir to the other?
[06:29] <rebelfallen> BCC hides.
[06:29] <rebelfallen> But I have a list of 750 emails, not sure how to "import" them to a BCC list
[06:30] <shadowpanda> is there someone who can expalin the differences between regular gnome and ubuntu?
[06:30] <jon_> What would the command be to move the file from one dir to the other?
[06:30] <Ash-Fox> rebelfallen, in thunderbird I would shove all these e-mail addresses under one group, and BCC that group.
[06:30] <cArNaGe``> so who's running xp on fserve?
[06:30] <shadowpanda> jon_: mv
[06:30] <jon_> ty
[06:31] <asdx> hi, i need help, i'm running ubuntu 32 bit version on a athlon 64, i installed the nvidia drivers but X gives me a black screen
[06:31] <polpak> jon_:  http://www.wtlug.org/story.php/view/54/
[06:31] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, Gnome is a desktop environment and Ubuntu is a distro
[06:31] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: what does that mean
[06:32] <asdx> with the nv driver works fine
[06:32] <stephan__> anyone know what udev is...and how to use it
[06:32] <jon_> Ty.
[06:32] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, Gnome is just a part of the larger Linux whole and Ubuntu is a way to package it
[06:32] <stephan__> im trying to get this to work : Bus 005 Device 010: ID 041e:4137 Creative Technology, Ltd
[06:33] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: so Gnome has more abilities
[06:33] <shadowpanda> ?
[06:33] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, Gnome is kind of like Aqua in Mac OS
[06:34] <iamcitizen> i have a problem. when I try to run "startx" it tries to load it, but then it comes back and says "could not open default cursor font 'cursor'
[06:34] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: never used Mac, ive used an apple 2GS though
[06:34] <CapitalT> Hi everyone
[06:34] <shadowpanda> hello
[06:35] <Evilscientist> hey does anyone know anything about xubuntu here?
[06:35] <CapitalT> If ubuntu installer is based on debian installer, how come it can't find my cdrom and harddisk while debian can?
[06:35] <Evilscientist> your computer is on crack? :)
[06:35] <stephan__> im trying to get this to work : Bus 005 Device 010: ID 041e:4137 Creative Technology, Ltd
[06:36] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: that was a joke btew
[06:36] <shadowpanda> btw
[06:36] <narfmaster> oh okay :)
[06:36] <f3ia> Must say, Ubuntu is the sexiest distro I've used
[06:36] <f3ia> :-D
[06:37] <jesse_> whats the command to restart alsamixer?
[06:37] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: ill wiki aqua
[06:37] <Evilscientist> so is there a way to use winxp to access xubuntu desktop remotely?
[06:37] <CapitalT> Any dev here?
[06:37] <kaot> Evilscientist: supposedly nxserver can do it
[06:38] <kaot> Evilscientist: I've got it installed but haven't had a chance to play with it yet
[06:38] <f3ia> That's on Knoppix, I believe
[06:38] <kaot> (by "haven't had a chance" I mean "I'm too lazy")
[06:38] <Evilscientist> nxserver is?
[06:38] <f3ia> Indeed
[06:38] <f3ia> I have 5.0.2 though
[06:38] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: so ubuntu is like a flashyer more graphical version?
[06:38] <kaot> http://www.nomachine.com I believe is where I dl'd it from
[06:39] <jon_> How do I go about setting up a shell?
[06:39] <asdx> someone using ubuntu 6.06 (32 bit) on a athlon 64 with nvidia?
[06:39] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, Ubuntu is an entirely packaged derivative of Linux
[06:39] <f3ia> Setting up a shell?
[06:39] <kaot> jon_: rephrase that?
[06:39] <lepine> could anyone help me out with ubuntu + intel 82801 + sata drive please ?
[06:39] <jon_> Like to create a shell, I dunno how.
[06:39] <edan> hi all
[06:39] <f3ia> useradd "user"
[06:39] <f3ia> passwd "user"
[06:39] <shadowpanda> nerfmaster: in Laymen's terms please
[06:39] <f3ia> But change the home directory and stuff
[06:40] <edan> I have a friend who has a question regarding CVS/Subversion
[06:40] <tga> Evilscientist, VNC
[06:40] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, Ubuntu is the most popular brand of Linux right now :)
[06:40] <edan> "I'm wondering if there's a system which adds version control to the standard windows filesystem, so applications don't have to specifically support the particular version control software."
[06:40] <CapitalT> Any dev here?
[06:40] <jesse_> stupid telemarketers....
[06:40] <kakalto> !tell me about mysql
[06:40] <Hexidigital> !mysql
[06:40] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:40] <tga> edan, apps don't really have to support version control, unless you're doing it on binary formats
[06:41] <edan> I realise this isn't a windows chan but this sort of thing is more relevent to Linux users than Windows it seems
[06:41] <shadowpanda> Oh ok, i guess that answers my question then
[06:41] <Evilscientist> this looks like you have to be running an nx server to use it.
[06:41] <shadowpanda> because i was thinking of switiching to gnome
[06:41] <tga> edan, #ubuntu-offtopic or something
[06:41] <edan> ah ok
[06:41] <edan> cheers
[06:41] <jesse_> whats the command to restart alsamixer?
[06:41] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, you don't need Ubuntu to switch to Gnome
[06:41] <shadowpanda> i know
[06:41] <edan> I myself have a question tho. far simpler
[06:41] <f3ia> killall alsamixer
[06:42] <f3ia> alsamixer
[06:42] <shadowpanda> i was saying, reformat my computer and install gnome
[06:42] <f3ia> + &
[06:42] <edan> how do I change the behaviour of the ALT key?
[06:42] <f3ia> lol
[06:42] <Hexidigital> jesse_:: /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[06:42] <edan> need to be using Maya and that requires the ALT key
[06:42] <jesse_> Hexidigital: thank you
[06:42] <tga> Evilscientist, I know Gnome has VNC built in so you can share your X session. normally the VNC server starts its own X session
[06:42] <Hexidigital> jesse_:: np
[06:42] <kaot> edan: tehre's #svn too, that's the subversion channel i believe
[06:42] <edan> oh right. thanks!
[06:42] <asdx> edan: System - Preferences - Keyboard Shortcuts
[06:43] <VoX> if i want a permanent dapper install, do i want the server iso or the desktop iso?
[06:43] <f3ia> Desktop if you are using a desktop
[06:43] <edan> asdx, nah. the ALT standard shortcut isn't there
[06:43] <edan> already looked
[06:44] <jesse_> ffs still have no sound
[06:44] <lepine> can no one help on a sata installation issue?
[06:45] <stephan__> how do i use udev
[06:45] <CapitalT> If ubuntu installer is based on debian installer, how come it can't find my cdrom and harddisk while debian can?
[06:46] <narfmaster> CapitalT, they're not the same installer
[06:47] <kakalto> to install mysql all by itself, without php, etc, would it just be 'sudo apt-get install mysql'?
[06:47] <lepine> narfmaster: does the ubuntu installer support sata out of the box?
[06:47] <CapitalT> but it is based on it, the same code with modifications
[06:47] <Hexidigital> kakalto:: mysql-server
[06:47] <narfmaster> CapitalT, Ubuntu is based on Debian Sid
[06:48] <kakalto> Hexidigital: cheers
[06:48] <CapitalT> that means it should be able to do more, not less
[06:48] <Hexidigital> kakalto:: if i remember correctly
[06:48] <lepine> my disk isn't being recognized, reasons unknown
[06:48] <narfmaster> lepine, no idea (i use IDE)
[06:48] <kakalto> Hexidigital: you do remember correctly.
[06:48] <tga> hey, my Beagle search doesn't return any results.. any idea what could be wrong?
[06:48] <Hexidigital> kakalto:: :) i have a good memory, but it's short
[06:48] <kakalto> Hexidigital: =)
[06:48] <kakalto> thanks.
[06:49] <Hexidigital> np
[06:49] <lala> hello.
[06:49] <lala> i have some questions about ubuntu.
[06:49] <Hexidigital> ask away
[06:49] <narfmaster> anyway, Dapper uses Ubiquity for installing, not Debian's installer
[06:49] <tga> addict
[06:50] <jesse_> hey my sound has stopped working, songs in rythem box just don't play they just sit on 0:00 and there are no sounds in other apps
[06:51] <lala> i have a new 'hp media center pc' good pc good peformance computer: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual, CPU: 4200+, 2.2 GHz x2, 1.00 GB RAM (~ 1000 mhz i bus), rt, fjrrkontroll och latjolajban
[06:51] <lala> [04:50:46]  <llaa_> typ r
[06:51] <lala> radoen x1300
[06:51] <lala> 256 mb
[06:51] <lala> tv card, radio card, remote controll. very fansy.
[06:51] <lala> my wondering is the drivers.
[06:51] <mitrovarr> is a network connection mandatory to install ubuntu?  I have a network device that doesn't work in the installer (only works on a fully installed machine)
[06:52] <narfmaster> mitrovarr, network is only necessary if the disc doesn't have what you want already
[06:53] <narfmaster> like if you want the latest stable version of Gnome, for example
[06:53] <mitrovarr> is it going to skip a lot of packages if I install without one?
[06:53] <isthisnicktaken> Can someone please tell me how to have the system do a "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" on boot
[06:53] <lala> so, about my driver issue do you guys think my computer is fully compatible with linux?
[06:53] <narfmaster> mitrovarr, you may not find what you want
[06:53] <lala> maybe difficulties with the hot swap drive in the front of the computer?
[06:53] <tga> isthisnicktaken, edit /etc/modules
[06:53] <mitrovarr> hmm, I'll try manually loading the module I need from a disk then
[06:54] <narfmaster> lala, that an ATI card?
[06:54] <mitrovarr> it's a usb network device that requires asix.ko
[06:54] <lala> narfmaster: yes, ati radeon x1300.
[06:54] <narfmaster> ATIs can be a bit of a pain in Linux
[06:54] <lala> yes, im thinking of calling the HP support, maybe they now about the drivers?
[06:55] <nomin> are nvidia drivers on linux better than ATI drivers on linux?
[06:55] <YRMed85> Good evening, My name is Yuriy, can anyone help me with propertly installing ATI driver for my graphics card?
[06:55] <narfmaster> lala, try out the desktop disc and make sure it works first
[06:55] <lala> i also now their is a list of drivers on some website where you can look up your network card or whatever and lookup the compability with drivers for linux.
[06:55] <mitrovarr> heh... this is a nasty install.  I'm trying to put Xubuntu on a old K6-333 laptop with only 64 mb of ram.  It doesn't even have an integrated network card :-(
[06:55] <narfmaster> mitrovarr, safe mode text install :)
[06:56] <lala> miteyMite: go for slackware with that computer.
[06:56] <lala> :)
[06:56] <cdubya> I'm trying to find out what is chewing up all the disk space on a machine that's running mysql, apache2, php4 and postfix......is there a quick way to show what dirs are chewing up how much of the disk without going through something archaic?
[06:56] <lala> miteyMite: easy & fast to install.
[06:56] <jorgeu> the best way i found to solve the module loading problem was installing it and running dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-generic-2.6.15-25-i386. That will regenerate the initrd file including your new driver
[06:56] <mitrovarr> narfmaster:  That's the plan!  Unfortunately the driver for the usb network device I use isn't in the installer... so I'm kind of at a loss at what to do.  I tried pulling the module from a working ubuntu install, but it failed on insmod.
[06:56] <VoX> nomin: my god yes
[06:57] <YRMed85> Anyone...please?
[06:57] <narfmaster> mitrovarr, you might try DSL or Zenwalk (or Slackware)
[06:57] <mitrovarr> narfmaster: nevermind it worked now, it just had to load more stuff before it could understand the module
[06:57] <narfmaster> cool
[06:57] <mitrovarr> narfmaster:  It wanted usb-core I think
[06:58] <nomin> VoX: does the manufacurer of the video card usually make the linux drivers?
[06:58] <mitrovarr> narfmaster:  DSL is the next thing to try if this is too slow, but DSL doesn't have this driver either and I really don't want to have to find out what is necessary to compile modules on such a strange version
[06:58] <DarkLegacy> Hey guys
[06:58] <DarkLegacy> I need some help dealing with Ubuntu
[06:58] <narfmaster> mitrovarr, yes Ubuntu does have a lot of drivers
[06:58] <lala> so about my new computer i will backup all the warez and reformat with cfdisk add a swap and a big fat ext3. and then install the ubuntu-6.06-desktop-amd64.iso ... and hoping that all the drivers are installed properly.
[06:59] <DarkLegacy> I have a 420GB system, partitioned into 5 NTFS drives. I want to use the last drive (G:) and repartition it into two more drives, G and H:.
[06:59] <DarkLegacy> I want to then install Ubuntu on H:.
[06:59] <DarkLegacy> How would I go about doing that?
[06:59] <mitrovarr> narfmaster:  I imagine Asix is probably common for most installed distros, but apparently not livecds.  Not any of them (which made backing up this system a pain).
[06:59] <edan> ah. I found where to change th eALT behaviour. cool
[06:59] <Evilscientist> so no other suggestions for remote access of xubuntu-desktop from winxp huh?
[06:59] <mitrovarr> DarkLegacy:  What's your physical configuration?  How many physical drives?
[07:00] <chapium> Evilscientist: what?
[07:00] <DarkLegacy> Two physical drives in RAID-0 making up 320 GB and one 120 GB drive
[07:00] <edan> Evilscientist, : VNC? heh
[07:00] <chapium> Evilscientist: vnc
[07:00] <lala> Evilscientist: add a shell? remote conncet with ssh with putty: www.google.com : putty.
[07:00] <edan> snap
[07:00] <narfmaster> DarkLegacy, you might want to read up on Grub
[07:00] <Evilscientist> vnc waht?
[07:00] <edan> use VNC
[07:00] <mitrovarr> DarkLegacy:  And G: is which partition on which drive?
[07:00] <lala> use PUTTY.
[07:00] <DarkLegacy> G: is the 120GB drive.
[07:00] <DarkLegacy> The entire drive is one partition
[07:00] <DarkLegacy> I want to resize it into two
[07:01] <mitrovarr> DarkLegacy:  Anything on it you wanna keep?
[07:01] <DarkLegacy> It's got data on it though
[07:01] <Evilscientist> lala...already working through putty....was looking to see if there was a graphical interface to play with
[07:01] <chapium> Evilscientist: or if you are sadistic you can load sygwin and use X forwarding
[07:01] <edan> get the GParted live CD
[07:01] <DarkLegacy> 100GB out of 111GB are used on the drive
[07:01] <chapium> Evilscientist: thats Cygwin
[07:01] <DarkLegacy> It's all movies though
[07:01] <Evilscientist> why 'sadistic on cygwin?
[07:01] <mitrovarr> DarkLegacy:  Hmm... resizing live partitions isn't really my specialty
[07:02] <edan> DarkLegacy,: the GParted live CD works the same way Partition Magic on Windows does
[07:02] <DarkLegacy> Partition Magic would work for resizing it into two?
[07:02] <Evilscientist> repartition = fdisk on command line...wouldn't it?
[07:02] <mitrovarr> DarkLegacy:  You probably will want more than 11 gb free space though.  I doubt gparted will even let you resize a partition so close to full.
[07:02] <edan> you'd resize the partition to create free space and then create a new partition, yeah
[07:02] <DarkLegacy> I've got 15GB left on it
[07:03] <DarkLegacy> But I'm planning to delete old movies/put them on DVD
[07:03] <DarkLegacy> It would just take ALOT of dvds for me to do that.
[07:03] <mitrovarr> DarkLegacy:  One axiom that is always repeated is 'scan and defragment first'.  It is essential to preventing data loss.
[07:03] <edan> I reckon 15GB would be enough but might be very slow
[07:03] <DarkLegacy> Did that already
[07:03] <DarkLegacy> It's not fragmented at all
[07:03] <DarkLegacy> It would take me 22 DVDs to completely write G:
[07:03] <narfmaster> only 22?
[07:04] <DarkLegacy> Yes.
[07:04] <mitrovarr> DarkLegacy:  I don't know if it's true anymore, but I know with the old partition resizers, there was always some risk
[07:04] <Evilscientist> or 11 dual layer... :O
[07:04] <DarkLegacy> 11 Dual Layer disks
[07:04] <mitrovarr> narfmaster:  Sure, 22.  20x5gb ~ 100 gb.
[07:04] <nomin> a dvd only actually stores about 4.4 GB of data
[07:04] <DarkLegacy> 4.5
[07:04] <Evilscientist> so +1 because DVD = 4.73 when formatted
[07:05] <Trishika> holy jesus this irc is huge
[07:05] <DarkLegacy> It stores exactly 4,500 MB, so it's actually 4.39 GB
[07:05] <mitrovarr> 15 gb is a little claustrophobic.  You might want to clear out at least 30 gb or something.  It'll be hard to install any decent games on there, or a lot of programs.
[07:05] <DarkLegacy> Er, I guess he's right
[07:05] <DarkLegacy> 4.4 GB.
[07:05] <mitrovarr> Mine all say 4.7 gb
[07:05] <Evilscientist> depends on the file system I suppose
[07:05] <DarkLegacy> That still makes it 22 DVDs
[07:05] <Trishika> hey guys
[07:05] <Trishika> i have kubuntu installed
[07:05] <mitrovarr> which I imagine is using 1000.  1024 probably grinds it down to 4.3-4.4
[07:05] <Trishika> and im installing pclinuxos next to it
[07:06] <DarkLegacy> Yeah, with 1024 it grinds down to 4.39
[07:06] <Trishika> but im not sure about the bootloader
[07:06] <nomin> DarkLegacy: I backed up a lot of videos, but not all.  this made things easier for me.
[07:06] <DarkLegacy> Which rounded up is 4.4
[07:06] <Trishika> should i overwrite grub with lilo or should i leave it be and instead boot into ubuntu and redo grub?
[07:06] <DarkLegacy> I've got approximately 142 videos on G:
[07:06] <DarkLegacy> All of them are 700MB
[07:06] <mitrovarr> heh... perfect CD size
[07:06] <narfmaster> Trishika, i would overwrite grub with lilo but that can get tricky in the future
[07:06] <DarkLegacy> Sure, 142 CDs
[07:06] <DarkLegacy> lmao
[07:07] <Trishika> thanks
[07:07] <mitrovarr> Trishika:  You can always make a little boot partition for one OS and have the other's bootloader point there.
[07:07] <DarkLegacy> How much do BluRays cost?
[07:07] <DarkLegacy> I mean those hold like 50GB right
[07:07] <mitrovarr> too much
[07:07] <asdx> is there a kernel without SMP?
[07:07] <mitrovarr> I think it's only 15 or 30 now.  Not 50 yet.
[07:07] <narfmaster> asdx, the server kernel IIRC
[07:08] <asdx> nvidia hangs X and i need that driver...
[07:08] <DarkLegacy> 30 GB?
[07:08] <mitrovarr> Trishika:  On my main computer, I have the windows xp bootloader send me into a boot partition that ubuntu manages.  That used to be the typical way to dual-boot before the bootloaders got more capable with handling XP.
[07:08] <DarkLegacy> How about crystal optics discs?
[07:08] <DarkLegacy> Those hold like 50 - 100 GB right
[07:08] <mitrovarr> holographic?
[07:08] <DarkLegacy> Yes
[07:08] <mitrovarr> yeah, some ludicrous amount, but they're not available yet
[07:08] <DarkLegacy> I see
[07:08] <mitrovarr> wiki has a good article
[07:08] <narfmaster> HDDVD will hold about 20 or 30 GBs
[07:09] <DarkLegacy> Well the technology for a hard drive holding 975 TB was developed
[07:09] <mitrovarr> jeez
[07:09] <mitrovarr> even the most emule-happy user will be satisfied with that
[07:09] <DarkLegacy> Meh, it's all of the warez fault
[07:09] <mitrovarr> that might even be enough to hold the entire internet
[07:09] <DarkLegacy> If I didn't have so much crap I'd never have space problems
[07:09] <DarkLegacy> and yes, 975 should be enough for the entire internet
[07:10] <DarkLegacy> But alas, as there's more room, you spread out more
[07:10] <DarkLegacy> No more file compression, ever
[07:10] <chapium> DarkLegacy: maybe you need a tape drive
[07:10] <DarkLegacy> Databases 30GB in size each
[07:10] <mitrovarr> kinda like the old joke about there being gate's correlary to moore's law; every 12 months, the speed of software halves.
[07:10] <DarkLegacy> Hah, that's kind of true
[07:10] <DarkLegacy> Every year, technology doubles and software speed halves
[07:10] <mitrovarr> oops
[07:10] <mitrovarr> it's 18 months
[07:10] <mitrovarr> my bad
[07:11] <narfmaster> every year you add another virtual layer too
[07:11] <narfmaster> pretty soon, we'll be running python in VMware :p
[07:11] <jesse_> anyone have any tips on getting my sound to work i really don't want to have to restart ubuntu to get it back
[07:11] <xarq> when I run a thin client with ubuntu which has a flash drive, what is the flash drive used for?  is it to store a ROM for the BIOS, or to save personal info?  I'm new to thin clients
[07:12] <tach00> does anyone know what directory desktop backgrounds are in?
[07:12] <chapium> jesse_: you might want to look into modprobe. I'd explain more, but i'm not too knowledgeable with it
[07:12] <nomin> jesse_: maybe killing artsd or esd will do it.
[07:13] <chapium> jesse_: insmod too
[07:13] <jesse_> k
[07:13] <jesse_> i tryed esd
[07:13] <ink|work> is there still a unbuntu live cd?
[07:13] <narfmaster> xarq, i think you can pretty much replace a hard drive with flash drives nowadays
[07:13] <ink|work> i know there used to be, but i couldn't find a link to it on the site
[07:13] <jesse_> ink|work: yes it connected with the install ced
[07:13] <chapium> ink|work: you mean ubuntu?  the desktop cd is the live cd
[07:13] <jesse_> cd*
[07:13] <nomin> jesse_: when my sound goes on mandriva, I kill esd and then open up a video or audio file and then it works.
[07:13] <DarkLegacy> Apparently, fate has a sense of humour as I have EXACTLY 22 DVD-Rs in my stack left.
[07:14] <chapium> ink|work: they simplified things a bit
[07:14] <nomin> *artsd
[07:14] <narfmaster> DarkLegacy, you better buy some more :)
[07:14] <mitrovarr> I'm gonna guess that your other giant hard drive is full and that's why you don't just copy the stuff over.  Am I right?
[07:14] <tach00> does anyone know what directory desktop backgrounds are in?
[07:14] <DarkLegacy> Yes :(
[07:14] <chapium> tach00: /usr/share/backgrounds i think
[07:14] <ink|work> jesse_: ah, so just download the install cd?  is there anything special i need to do when booting off of it?
[07:14] <jesse_> nope none of those worked
[07:14] <RaCarter> i can't get setfacl to work...
[07:14] <jesse_> nope
[07:14] <tach00> thanks
[07:15] <mitrovarr> dear god man you have half a terabyte!
[07:15] <chapium> tach00: might be some variation of that
[07:15] <ink|work> awesome, thanks!
[07:15] <jesse_> ink|work: just download it then put it in then on the desktop to install theres an icon to click on when your ready
[07:15] <DarkLegacy> I've got 75GB of space left in all four partitions combined
[07:15] <DarkLegacy> Each drive with 20GB or so left respectfully
[07:15] <mitrovarr> eh, who am I to talk.  I have a 160 and a 40 and both are nearly full
[07:15] <DarkLegacy> D: has 600MB left over
[07:15] <jesse_> ink|work: though the live cd seems to use alot more memory then the other versions
[07:15] <DarkLegacy> Well, my partitions are basically folders
[07:15] <DarkLegacy> C: (Windows)
[07:16] <DarkLegacy> D: (Installed Games)
[07:16] <ink|work> jesse_: well, i won't actually be installing - i just need some emacs functionality that doesn't work in windows
[07:16] <DarkLegacy> E: (Packed Games/Cd Images/Downloaded)
[07:16] <mitrovarr> jesse_:  That's typical of livecds, since they can't depend on swap files and CD loading is slow, they often use lots of ram
[07:16] <ink|work> (this is my work laptop we're talking about - which runs xp)
[07:16] <narfmaster> ink|work, the DVD can do all of the above :)
[07:16] <DarkLegacy> F: (Warez/Software/Etc)
[07:16] <DarkLegacy> G: (Movies)
[07:16] <ink|work> does the live cd come with emacs?
[07:16] <mitrovarr> darklegacy:  I have more drive letters than you :-D
[07:16] <nomin> DarkLegacy: with that much data it might actually be worth it to spend the time backing it up on DVD's.
[07:16] <DarkLegacy> I go up to J.
[07:17] <chapium> DarkLegacy: dont pirate, it upsets your mojo
[07:17] <DarkLegacy> No way
[07:17] <DarkLegacy> lol
[07:17] <Evilscientist> okay guys....who has the bigger HARD drive  O  8)
[07:17] <DarkLegacy> H - J are removeable media however
[07:17] <DarkLegacy> I should get more drives :\
[07:17] <mitrovarr> darklegacy:  C: - windows D: - windows restore partition E - DVD-r F- CDR G: - Win98 H: - games and large files I: - linux partition (I have windows drivers to access it) J: - truecrypt partition and finally K: - flash drive (if mounted)
[07:17] <DarkLegacy> I've still got 4 slots left for drives in my tower
[07:18] <jesse_> mitrovarr: yeah but 5.10 live cd didn't use as much as the 6.06 but then i guess its got a stack more features
[07:18] <chapium> DarkLegacy: sounds like you aren't trying hard enough then
[07:18] <DarkLegacy> lol
[07:18] <DarkLegacy> I know
[07:18] <DarkLegacy> I should get 4 500GB drives and raid them
[07:18] <mitrovarr> jesse_:  You wanna see a ram eater, try the knoppix DVD versions.  Extra points if you can use 'toram'
[07:18] <DarkLegacy> '
[07:18] <dragon> hi
[07:18] <chapium> DarkLegacy: bah, use raid to get extra ide's
[07:18] <DarkLegacy> 'toram' is insanity
[07:19] <mitrovarr> on a DVD?  Oh yes.
[07:19] <chapium> dragon: howdy
[07:19] <ink|work> is there a list of apps that come on the cd?
[07:19] <dragon> i need some help with frostwire...
[07:19] <ink|work> on the site perhaps?
[07:19] <narfmaster> ink|work, there should be a .list file on the download page
[07:19] <chapium> ink|work: i think emacs is in universe, but not base.. i could be mistaken
[07:19] <ink|work> hmm
[07:19] <ink|work> damn
[07:19] <DarkLegacy> Well
[07:19] <DarkLegacy> I guess I'm gonna burn all 22 DVDs
[07:19] <mitrovarr> I bet you couldn't even access enough ram with the kernel on the DVD to use 'toram'
[07:20] <DarkLegacy> Time to get started
[07:20] <DarkLegacy> :)
[07:20] <DarkLegacy> 4x on the DVD-Rs
[07:20] <DarkLegacy> 5 minutes per DVD then
[07:20] <mitrovarr> only 4x?
[07:20] <DarkLegacy> Two hours
[07:20] <DarkLegacy> Two entire hours of burning
[07:20] <chapium> wah
[07:20] <DarkLegacy> Poor burner is gonna be 80C once I'm done
[07:20] <nomin> Operation Buccaneer  http://www.cybercrime.gov/ob/OBMain.htm
[07:20] <narfmaster> 4x = 7.5 minutes / DVD actually
[07:20] <chapium> just format one of those drives, then you'll only have an hour
[07:20] <jesse_> mitrovarr: i dought it ive only got one gig though my friend bought a new pc that has 4 gig of ram
[07:20] <nomin> "As of October, 2002, 16 defendants have been convicted in the U.S. of felony criminal copyright offenses, including conspiracy to commit those offenses, and 13 defendants have been sentenced to federal prison terms of up to 46 months."
[07:21] <dragon> does n e 1 know n e thing about limewire/frostwire
[07:21] <mitrovarr> jesse_:  I think 4gig is the most a standard kernel can address
[07:21] <Hexidigital> lol
[07:21] <DarkLegacy> Oh, I forgot to mention that it's all open source software
[07:21] <DarkLegacy> lol
[07:21] <DarkLegacy> My bad, wares is short for software
[07:21] <Hexidigital> a paste about criminal copyright offenses, then a question about frostwire....
[07:21] <chapium> dragon: just tell us what the issue is
[07:21] <dragon> ok
[07:21] <mitrovarr> man, I can't believe they go after pirates and let the spyware writers roam free
[07:22] <brimble> Hmmm it's advantageous being a 3rd world cracker, even a US prision has gotta be better than where I live.
[07:22] <DarkLegacy> Spyware is good for companies
[07:22] <DarkLegacy> Companies hold high places in the government
[07:22] <fyrestrtr> pirates, aren't.
[07:22] <chapium> Hexidigital: serioulsy
[07:22] <mitrovarr> I know WHY they do that, but it's annoying
[07:22] <tvalladon> I have a hdd installed in my system (ntfs or fat32 type ata), but I dont see it in dmegs and its not mounting it.. how can I find what it hidden as in the /dev folder?
[07:22] <jesse_> mitrovarr: yeah probably but im not going to spend that much on ram
[07:22] <DarkLegacy> I always wished I had like 4 GB or more of ram
[07:22] <DarkLegacy> This year I'm going to do it :)
[07:22] <chapium> gnite
[07:22] <mitrovarr> jesse_:  I wish I could :-(.  I only have 512 on my good computer and 256 on this poor machine.
[07:22] <brimble> Dark: Why ?
[07:22] <dragon> wen i try to open either of them nothing happens.....the readme says to "place java in its path prior to launching" and neither me or my mate here understand
[07:23] <DarkLegacy> Because then I won't need ram until 2009
[07:23] <mitrovarr> jesse_: And I'm installing Xubuntu on a poor tiny little 64mb laptop as we speak
[07:23] <DarkLegacy> When Microsoft Windows Super_resource_hog_2 is released
[07:23] <brimble> I've got 2GB, never ever used more than 1Gb
[07:23] <fyrestrtr> tvalladon: its not in dmesg?
[07:23] <tvalladon> nope
[07:23] <tvalladon> fyrestrtr: nope
[07:23] <Kenotic> Is there a way I can reset the thumbnails for movies and pics?
[07:23] <fyrestrtr> tvalladon: you sure its working properly? and how are you checking it?
[07:24] <jesse_> mitrovarr: doesn't beat the 16mb ram computer i stripped for parts when working at a second hand pc place
[07:24] <brimble> Nah I don't mind Puppy Linux, seems to have more in the way of features than DSL
[07:24] <DarkLegacy> Is a 25 mb/s read speed good enough for 4x DVD?
[07:24] <tvalladon> I can boot xpe and see it
[07:24] <mitrovarr> jesse_:  My friend who used to run a cybercafe installed quake 2 on a 486
[07:24] <narfmaster> DarkLegacy, plenty
[07:24] <DarkLegacy> Is there like a wiki on drive speeds
[07:24] <DarkLegacy> Because I never really understood them
[07:24] <DarkLegacy> I just thought the CD drive speeds were megabyte/second
[07:24] <mitrovarr> Puppy linux is kind of rough-edged and has mediocre hardware detection.  I like DSL and slax better.
[07:24] <DarkLegacy> and DVD were double of that
[07:24] <chapium> dragon: i'm sure a little googling with help you with the path issue.  I've had some trouble with ecclipse plugins because of the gnu java interpreter.  Try intalling the Sun version
[07:25] <SurfnKid> DarkLegacy, i think 150k/sec was 1x
[07:25] <narfmaster> DarkLegacy, DVD speeds are roughly MB/s
[07:25] <tvalladon> fyrestrtr: I can boot xpe (live XP boot disk) and see it
[07:25] <DarkLegacy> Oh, I see.
[07:25] <DarkLegacy> That works too
[07:25] <DarkLegacy> :)
[07:25] <fyrestrtr> tvalladon: you don't see it in the hardware manager?
[07:25] <dragon> ive got the sun version
[07:25] <dragon> lol
[07:25] <jesse_> mitrovarr: heh classic haven't played quake 2 in ages ive got it on my quake 4 disk though i don't think it would run to good on a 486
[07:25] <DarkLegacy> I've got 100 mb/s read on the RAID-0 and 25 mb/s on the IDE because the wiring arrangement is very hectic, and I had to use a 40-pin ATA connector
[07:26] <DarkLegacy> Freaking 7900GTXs are enormous
[07:26] <dragon> thanx tho
[07:26] <Shizboom> Anyone setup a samba server before?
[07:26] <Trishika> ok i installed lilo
[07:26] <mitrovarr> jesse_:  Nope.  I believe he had it in a 160x120 window in 16 colors.  It got about 1 fps.
[07:26] <DarkLegacy> The IDE Raid array is on the left side of the mobo, the vid cards are in the center, and the drive is in the center
[07:26] <SurfnKid> do the math, but its on a hardware book, from A+ certification, i cant remember at the moment but 150 i think was the standard read factor
[07:26] <fyrestrtr> Shizboom: I did, a long time back.
[07:26] <DarkLegacy> So I had to wrap the wire around the 7900s to get the IDE RAID
[07:26] <Shizboom> if i have samba setup like this:
[07:26] <Shizboom>     ![homes] 
[07:26] <Shizboom>        comment = Home Directories
[07:26] <DarkLegacy> The other IDE socket is being used by my removeable media
[07:26] <Trishika> but how do i set  it up so taht it uses the correct kernal image?
[07:26] <Shizboom> what is my share name?
[07:26] <chapium> DarkLegacy: why are you telling us this?
[07:26] <DarkLegacy> Because it's 1 in the morning
[07:26] <fyrestrtr> Shizboom: homes
[07:26] <DarkLegacy> And I've got nothing else to do
[07:27] <thaswiftness> I just dist-upgraded my brothers machine to dapper, and his sound stopped working. I rebuilt the alsa-module with module-assistant and didnt recieve any errors. However when i try to modprobe snd-intel8x0 , i get several errors about unknown symbols
[07:27] <SurfnKid> DarkLegacy,  lol
[07:27] <Shizboom> so its smb:\\myip\homes?
[07:27] <SurfnKid> DarkLegacy,  did you not use an 80pin cable
[07:27] <chapium> DarkLegacy: sleep
[07:27] <DarkLegacy> I've also realized that people that use Linux are also much smarter than people in the AIM/Yahoo chatrooms
[07:27] <fyrestrtr> Shizboom: smb://
[07:27] <DarkLegacy> I can't sleep because I slept all day today
[07:27] <Shizboom> ermmm
[07:27] <mitrovarr> has anyone tried xubuntu on minimal hardware?  (p2, 64mb)  Any idea how well it will work?
[07:27] <DarkLegacy> My 80pin cable is too short
[07:27] <fyrestrtr> DarkLegacy: how long did it take you to figure that one?
[07:28] <narfmaster> mitrovarr, worked fine for me :)
[07:28] <jesse_> well im going to restart i can't live with out sound
[07:28] <Shizboom> thats not working i dont think fyrestrtr
[07:28] <DarkLegacy> Not very long.
[07:28] <tvalladon> fyrestrtr: may have found it, afk for a moment while I play with it
[07:28] <roberto> What can I use to tag m4a files?
[07:28] <roberto> EasyTag can't do it
[07:28] <DarkLegacy> Upon entering the AIM Chatrooms and being flooded with sex bots, I kind of figured it out pretty darn quick
[07:28] <DarkLegacy> IRC was my next choice
[07:28] <DarkLegacy> But some of the IRC rooms were just as bad
[07:28] <DarkLegacy> So Linux room was next choice
[07:28] <fyrestrtr> Shizboom: use smbclient to browse the machine and see what shares you can find, or use places -> connect to server and browse the samba machine
[07:28] <SurfnKid> efnet is bad
[07:28] <SurfnKid> this is stable
[07:28] <Shizboom> i entered this into firefox : smb://192.168.1.143/homes/
[07:29] <DarkLegacy> Efnet is for pirate-chat
[07:29] <narfmaster> mitrovarr, just don't run too many things all at once :)
[07:29] <Shizboom> tells me its not availible
[07:29] <chapium> this is an official support channel, you're just making it hard for the people who are actually trying to solve issues
[07:29] <fyrestrtr> Shizboom: ermm, you are not supposed to enter it in firefox.
[07:29] <DarkLegacy> Freenode is for linux/open-source/etc
[07:29] <fyrestrtr> firefox doesn't handle smb://
[07:29] <mitrovarr> narfmaster:  I'll try not to.  At least I hope it will be better than using win98 on it (which feels like it should be in a museum).
[07:29] <DarkLegacy> What's the chat channel in freenode?
[07:29] <fyrestrtr> !offtopic
[07:29] <DarkLegacy> #chat?
[07:29] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:29] <Shizboom> hmmm
[07:29] <DarkLegacy> Thanks
[07:29] <Shizboom> is smbclient installed with samba?
[07:30] <fyrestrtr> yes
[07:30] <Sasquatch> I can't seem to get my wireless card to activate
[07:30] <Cody> Anyone have a clue on how to get a Logitech usb microphone to cooperate with skype?
[07:30] <Sasquatch> any ideas?
[07:30] <mitrovarr> Sasquatch:  You using ndiswrapper or a module?
[07:30] <bruenig> ndiswrapper
[07:30] <Sasquatch> mitrovarr: I honestly don't know
[07:30] <Sasquatch> what do you do wtih ndiswrapper?
[07:30] <mitrovarr> Sasquatch:  So, you just stuck it in and hope it worked?
[07:31] <Daveyboy> hi, what is the linux command for finding the distribution installed
[07:31] <Sasquatch> mitrovarr: pretty much, it's a supported chipset
[07:31] <kaot> mitrovarr: heck, that's what I did.  It didn't work of course.  Pain ensued.  :\
[07:31] <Shizboom> fyrestrtr - its telling me connection failed
[07:31] <mitrovarr> Sasquatch:  Did it form an interface?
[07:31] <Cody> Anyone have a clue on how to get a Logitech usb microphone to cooperate with skype...
[07:31] <SurfnKid> ndiswrapper is the best tacowrapper ever
[07:31] <Sasquatch> mitrovarr: yes
[07:31] <mitrovarr> hmm
[07:31] <bala> how to install ubuntu 6 in CLI mode
[07:31] <chapium> Daveyboy: cat /proc/version for kerenel
[07:31] <mitrovarr> Sasquatch:  Did you try configuring it in the network settings?
[07:32] <bala> my graphical installer crashes on Partitioning
[07:32] <Sasquatch> mitrovarr: yes, i clicked activate
[07:32] <Sasquatch> but nothing happens
[07:32] <mitrovarr> Sasquatch:  It doesn't activate?
[07:32] <Sasquatch> nope
[07:32] <bruenig> Sasquatch, this may help, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[07:32] <kaot> Sasquatch: lspci | grep -i net
[07:32] <mitrovarr> Sasquatch:  I mean, it might not necessarily come up, but it should at least become activated.
[07:32] <Sasquatch> it doesn't
[07:32] <bala> help me please
[07:32] <kaot> Sasquatch: if it says "Broadcom" anything, jump out the window.
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> Daveyboy: cat /etc/issue
[07:32] <bruenig> bala, have you checked your disk, made sure it is error free?
[07:32] <Sasquatch> kaot: it's a prism2 chpi
[07:32] <Sasquatch> *chip
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> Daveyboy: and if you want to know the kernel, uname -a
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> Shizboom: you probably aren't giving it the right arguments, where is this samba server you are trying to connect to?
[07:33] <mitrovarr> Sasquatch:  I've had trouble with the gnome netconfig tools.  Try just saying 'Sudo ifconfig <interface> up
[07:33] <mitrovarr> probably you want sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[07:33] <aunes> I have this wierd grey box that slides down the right side of my screen on occassion. It doesn't last more than a second and its pretty infrequent. Any ideas what could cause it?
[07:33] <mitrovarr> and then sudo dhclient wlan0
[07:33] <mitrovarr> assuming no security
[07:34] <bala> how to check it ya
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> aunes: that's strange, it does it when?
[07:34] <Sasquatch> it says siocsifflags: timer expired
[07:34] <Sasquatch> ??
[07:34] <Cody> aunes: what type monitor do you use? just curious...
[07:34] <bala> how to install in console
[07:34] <mitrovarr> wow... I have no idea in that case.
[07:34] <Daveyboy> what is the sudo command for Debian GNU/Linux 3.1
[07:35] <kaot> Sasquatch: hey does iwconfig show anything?
[07:35] <tvalladon> fyrestrtr: when I do fdisk -l I get /dev/hda1   *           1        1023     8217243   54  OnTrackDM6
[07:35] <bala> bruenig. how to install in console mode like older ubuntu?
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> tvalladon: *blink* never seen that before.
[07:35] <aunes> Cody: Mag. Doesn't do it on windows
[07:35] <Sasquatch> kaot: yea, it shows the card
[07:35] <Sasquatch> says NOT READY!
[07:35] <bruenig> bala, download the server edition and when it boots up and you get logged in and the command prompt, just type 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[07:35] <Sasquatch> in all caps at the top
[07:35] <aunes> fyrestrtr: I can't place it with any specific occurance
[07:35] <tvalladon> fyrestrtr: OnTrackDM6? is that a support partition type??
[07:35] <Sasquatch> and then lists the card spexs
[07:36] <mitrovarr> Sasquatch:  Did you get that message when you tried to 'ifconfig interface up'
[07:36] <kaot> Sasquatch: ya?  Haven't een that.
[07:36] <Sasquatch> *specs
[07:36] <mitrovarr> sasquatch;  or when you tried to dhclient
[07:36] <Sasquatch> mitrovarr: ifconfig
[07:36] <Trishika> um what image does ubuntu 6.06 use to boot up?
[07:37] <aunes> boot.img ;)
[07:37] <Trishika> im configuring lilo and i have no idea what to put
[07:37] <Trishika> but there is no boot.img
[07:37] <mitrovarr> sasquatch:  I guess I don't know.  If it's a supported chipset, it shouldn't be the kernel or the module.  What is the card's form factor and how is it installed?
[07:37] <aunes> I was actually joking.
[07:37] <bala> bruenig. how to find what cd i have? one friend gave me
[07:37] <nathalie> plop
[07:37] <Geoffrey2> one of these days I need to try and get my onboard wireless nic running again.....since sooner or later the owner of the pcmcia card I'm using is going to want it back
[07:37] <Sasquatch> it's a Netgear WG511
[07:37] <Sasquatch> on my laptop
[07:37] <bruenig> bala, do you have high speed internet?
[07:37] <mitrovarr> Sasquatch:  PCMCIA?
[07:37] <Sasquatch> yup
[07:37] <narfmaster> Trishika, vmlinuz-2.6.15-something
[07:38] <Sasquatch> PCMCMIA
[07:38] <tvalladon> fyrestrtr: grrr.. its got the ontrack disk overlay installed so legacy systems can see the, what is it? over 80 megs or something like that...
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> tvalladon: hrmm, you can force mount it if you want.
[07:38] <Trishika> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-25-386  -- thats the one i  have right now in there
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> there is some kernel parm you have to pass .... let me look it.
[07:38] <Trishika> but i get a kernal panic
[07:39] <tvalladon> fyrestrtr: how do I do that?
[07:39] <bala> bruenig. no ya
[07:39] <mitrovarr> Sasquatch:  I don't really have much of an idea since I don't know much about PCMCIA, but you might wanna try swapping slots, checking your BIOS to see if there's any funny settings, trying another PCMCIA device to see if it works (if you have one)
[07:39] <bruenig> bala, go here and pick server, download it and then burn it to a disk as an image, put it in the disk drive and restart  http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[07:39] <bala> bruenig. i have one ubunto 6 cd
[07:39] <Trishika> does it need everything in the boot folder inorder to boot up?
[07:39] <Sasquatch> mitrovarr: haha, i only have one slot :-P
[07:39] <Sasquatch> hmmm
[07:39] <narfmaster> Trishika, it needs to know where "root" is
[07:39] <Sasquatch> it works on my windows
[07:39] <mitrovarr> Sasquatch:  Did you load it in hot?
[07:39] <bala> bruenig. my friend got it from shipit.ubuntu.com
[07:39] <Sasquatch> as I am dualbooting..
[07:39] <bruenig> bala, probably is impractical then to download it as it is 450 MB
[07:39] <Geoffrey2> I managed to get the onboard nic to function....once....shut down computer, came back, it was gone again...could never figure out how to get it up and running again
[07:39] <Sasquatch> mitrovarr: nope
[07:39] <VoX> does the dapper desktop cd have an option to repair an existing install(namely grub)?
[07:39] <mitrovarr> Sasquatch:  does it work in windows?
[07:39] <Sasquatch> i tried both though
[07:39] <Sasquatch> mitrovarr: yup
[07:40] <narfmaster> Trishika, "root=/dev/hda1" for example
[07:40] <nomin> Trishika: I have had a similar problem in the past.  I think you just need to point it to the partition
[07:40] <bala> bruenig. is there any other way to install it from my cd itself?
[07:40] <mitrovarr> sasquatch:  Guess it's not any of that, then.  I think you need more expertise to fix this problem than I can contribute,s orry.
[07:40] <Trishika> wait is taht solutiojn for grub or lili>?
[07:40] <Trishika> lilo*
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> tvalladon: add hda=remap63 to the boot line in the grub config file, reboot your machine, and it will show up as FAT16, then mount it read only, and copy the files off of it, or do whatever you want to it. If you just want to delete it, use fdisk, but it is set to bootable (afaics)
[07:41] <narfmaster> Trishika, i was pointing out a kernel option
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> VoX: yes
[07:41] <bruenig> bala, that same problem occurred with my machine, it would stall on partition but unless you can download an image yourself, probably out of luck
[07:41] <tvalladon> fyrestrtr: thank you very much, I will give that a try, have a nice night :D
[07:41] <VoX> fyrestrtr: awesome
[07:41] <mitrovarr> Sasquatch:  You could find the driver project and see if they have any newer versions you might compile.
[07:41] <bruenig> bala, the same .iso that was alleged to be on the shipit cd, worked fine
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> !grub > VoX
[07:42] <Trishika> when i do that, it says syntax error, this is what i have in there currently  -----  root=/dev/hda1/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-25-386
[07:42] <__mikem> Now that was uncalled for
[07:42] <bala> bruenig. ya. i have the shipit cd only.
[07:42] <narfmaster> Trishika, no you would put kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-25-386 root=/dev/hda#
[07:43] <Sasquatch> mitrovarr: oh yea, that was my other question, how do you compile drivers?
[07:43] <Trishika> ok
[07:43] <nomin> Trishika:  I had that problem when I first set up a triple boot system.  With ubuntu's grub the bootloader was fine, but when I wanted to use mandriva's lilo, that's when I got the kernel panic error.  I found out that all I had to do was point the boot option to the partition that ubuntu was installed on and it worked.
[07:43] <bala> bruenig. net connection is very slow. cant download. it will take 2 days
[07:43] <narfmaster> Trishika, the file might actually be /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386
[07:43] <nomin> Trishika: I didn't have to include the kernel image in it.
[07:43] <Trishika> i get an error that says duplicate entry root
[07:43] <narfmaster> or something like that
[07:44] <mitrovarr> Sasquatch:  Well, you need build-essential, gcc equal to whatever compiled your kernel (4.0 I believe with ubuntu 6.06), and the proper kernel headers or kernel sources (depends on the source requirements.)
[07:44] <bruenig> bala, you could order more cds, which will take a month or so. Or you could download the .iso. Personally I would use bittorrent to download the .iso and just download whenever possible until I get it
[07:44] <mitrovarr> unfortunately, what each module requires seems to differ.  I have two custom modules on my system (lirc_serial and truecrypt) and setting both up differed substantially from each other.
[07:44] <kaot> Sasquatch: i've been googling a bit, not seeing anything to indicate this is a driver issue, if that helps.
[07:45] <mitrovarr> following the readme and FAQs/howtos online usually works
[07:45] <Trishika> how do i  point the boot option to the partition that ubuntu is installed on (hda1)?
[07:45] <zeraeiro> hi there
[07:45] <fyrestrtr> Trishika: this is lilo or grub?
[07:46] <zeraeiro> I followed the how-to to install nvidia drivers but it killed my X server
[07:46] <stephan__> i did a chmod 755 and now i have no sound in user.....any ideas
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> stephan__: is you user in the audio group?
[07:46] <Daveyboy> what is the debian equivalent of sudo
[07:46] <lightstar> Daveyboy, sudo
[07:46] <narfmaster> sudo is sudo anywhere :p
[07:46] <Daveyboy> kewl
[07:46] <nomin> Trishika: it would be something like "dev/hda1".  And that's it.  I think I still have the file saved.  I'll look for it to see exactly what I had in it.  Right now I boot with ubuntu's grub because I recently redid my whole system.
[07:47] <Trishika> if i leave the field that says kernal image blank it says i have to specify one
[07:47] <Sasquatch> what was that ndiswrapper url again?
[07:47] <Sasquatch> it looks like i might need to use it
[07:47] <stephan__> fyrestrtr; it was working fine tell i did that command
[07:47] <Trishika> it has a filed that says root below it and i set that to hda 1
[07:48] <Trishika> but i dont know what to put as kernal image
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> !ndiswrapper > Sasquatch
[07:48] <Trishika> :( i hope to get pclinuxos and ubuntu living in harmony
[07:48] <mitrovarr> Sasquatch:  I really don't think you'll need ndiswrapper if you were able to create an interface successfully
[07:49] <Cody> Anyone have a clue on how to get a Logitech usb microphone to cooperate with skype...
[07:49] <tpgterror> IS skype even working here?
[07:50] <tpgterror> if so... how? with WINE or with Skype linux version? 0-o
[07:50] <Cody> Skype linux
[07:50] <Cody> I'm using the newest beta
[07:50] <nomin> Trishika: I found it...
[07:50] <Trishika> thanks man
[07:50] <shadowpanda> can someone tell me what Cedega (WineX) is?
[07:51] <narfmaster> Cedega is a forked version of Wine
[07:51] <rob138> hi, i am trying to "git" something, don't really know what i am doing, but when i try to git clone something i recieve: /usr/bin/gitfm: fatal error: `chdir' failed: permission denied.
[07:51] <nomin> other=/dev/hdb3 -- then on the line below I had -- label="linux2"
[07:51] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: I see we meet again. What does it do differently than Wine?
[07:51] <staulkor> Wardo: got it working, just downloaded the alternate disc and did the text install and everything is good, thanks for the help
[07:51] <zeraeiro> I followed the how-to to install nvidia drivers but it killed my X server
[07:51] <narfmaster> Cedega is specially tweaked for gamers
[07:51] <zeraeiro> any help?
[07:51] <nomin> Trishika: that's all I had in lilo.conf for the option to boot into ubuntu and the kernel panic error was gone
[07:52] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: is it free?
[07:52] <Trishika> ohh im using the wizard in pclos to get it done
[07:52] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, if you get it through WineCVS it is
[07:52] <Trishika> does grub tell you what image it uses to boot inot ubuntu?
[07:52] <tpgterror> I got a question, so sound aint possible on Linux if your linux doesnt detect it?
[07:52] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: i dont know what that is but how much does it cost normally?
[07:52] <Cody> rob138: are you in a console?
[07:53] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, $5 a month
[07:53] <rob138> Cody, yes
[07:53] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: dammn it
[07:53] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: can you help me get around it?
[07:53] <nomin> Trishika: BTW, I didn't figure that one out by myself.  I did a combination of overrighting each bootloader with the other, and eventually the right combo did it automatically for me.
[07:53] <Cody> Rob, are you in root?
[07:53] <nomin> *overwriting
[07:53] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/
[07:54] <Trishika> ..... will grub detect all my linux distros automatically and config them?
[07:54] <Cody> rob138, what is the command you are attempting?
[07:54] <Trishika> and what command do i use in konsole to edit my lilo.conf file?
[07:54] <nomin> Trishika: yes, grub with ubuntu has been good for me
[07:54] <Trishika> im alread in su mode
[07:54] <rob138> cody, git clone http://people.freedesktop.org/~krh/akamaru.git
[07:55] <Trishika> so grub wont ask any of these questions that lilo does?
[07:55] <Trishika> it detected mandriva nd ubuntu when you installed?
[07:55] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: ah yes, I did try to go through this tutorial but i cant install "x-window-system-dev"
[07:55] <nomin> Trishika: the reason I preferred lilo from mandriva is that mandriva lets me easily get rid of the bootloader.  I haven't found a way to get rid of ubuntu's grub without installing a new bootloader over it.
[07:56] <Cody> rob138, try sudo git clone http://people.freedesktop.org/~krh/akamaru.git
[07:56] <Trishika> yea thats what i did, i installed lilo over grub
[07:56] <Trishika> and now ubuntu wont start
[07:56] <Trishika> and i still have another os to put in
[07:57] <rob138> cody, same error
[07:57] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, did you follow the Debian instructions?
[07:57] <Cody> rob138, try su and then try git blah-blah
[07:57] <nomin> Trishika: I installed windows and mandriva first.  When I installed ubuntu, grub was configured automatically.  It gives me options for just about every partition, which is unnecessary.  I just put a # before the options in grub.conf to keep the bootloader free of uneccesary options.
[07:57] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: i followed these instructions http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Cedega+CVS&amp;amp;amp;amp;back=HOWTO+INDEX+Wine
[07:57] <rob138> cody, too scared to do su
[07:57] <rob138> : )
[07:58] <Cody> do it...
[07:58] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, i think they want you to install "xlibs-dev" (x-window-system-dev isn't in the Ubuntu repo)
[07:58] <Trishika> ok so grub will detect pclinuxos automatically?
[07:58] <Cody> rob138: su and sudo are almost the same thing
[07:58] <nomin> Trishika: but I don't know what distros grub will recognize.  I guess you'll have to find that out for yourself.  I would be interested in knowing what the outcome is.
[07:59] <Trishika> pclinux is mandrake based
[07:59] <tpgterror> hmm i just thinked su was shut up omg ^^
[07:59] <Trishika> ok so one more question, how do i reinstall grub onto mr mbr from the live cd?
[07:59] <Trishika> my*
[08:00] <shadowpanda> nerfmaster: what gives you the idea that they want me to install xlibs-dev
[08:00] <bimberi> Trishika: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:00] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, just a gut feeling :)
[08:01] <bsmith> hello, i tried to build a 2.6.15 kernel using make-kpkg on an inspiron 6000 laptop
[08:01] <shadowpanda> haha ok
[08:01] <bsmith> eh nevermind :p
[08:02] <Lynoure> bsmith: tried? What happened?
[08:02] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, you should try it, it might work
[08:02] <shadowpanda> Inarfmaster: Im done installing it but im tired, thanks for your help tonight
[08:02] <Trishika> thats what happened to me, i used the wrong image and it tried to load my pclinux os kernal and a bunch of stuff failed
[08:02] <eightiesk> !password
[08:02] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StrongPasswords
[08:03] <eightiesk> !user
[08:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about user
[08:03] <staulkor> brb
[08:03] <Trishika>     oh shit i hope this works
[08:03] <narfmaster> i installed Dapper in VMware today
[08:03] <Trishika> brb
[08:04] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: Yeah its working now but i dont know what file to download through WineCVS.sh
[08:04] <narfmaster> whatever you do, don't install from the actual disc, use a disc image on your hard drive :p
[08:04] <eightiesk> i forgot my password and i use kubuntu but it booted to ubuntu... how do i change my password here?
[08:04] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, the script handles all that stuff for you
[08:04] <mitrovarr> trying to compile cedega, shadowpanda?
[08:05] <shadowpanda>  narfmaster: under 3. compilation and installation, it asks me to open up the file
[08:05] <technician>    FATAL: getpwnam failed to find userid for effective user 'squid'
[08:05] <technician> anyone can guide me on this ?
[08:05] <shadowpanda> mitrovarr: yes
[08:05] <eightiesk> ??
[08:05] <Lynoure> eightiesk: if you cannot remember any password for account with root or sudo access either, reboot, choose the recovery option from the menu and when you get the root console, do   password yourusername
[08:06] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, that's weird :/
[08:06] <mitrovarr> shadowpanda:  well, wineCVS.sh is the way, all right.  I got mine working that way (took a long time and I don't remember exactly what I did alas.)
[08:06] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: ill work on it tomarrow, its 11:00 PM
[08:06] <mitrovarr> shadowpanda:  I have yet to have it actually work a game successfully, so I don't know if it was really worth the effort.
[08:06] <eightiesk> Lynoure: it didn't work
[08:07] <Lynoure> eightiesk: how? details please?
[08:07] <shadowpanda> mitrovarr: kids my age shouldnt have to go though this!
[08:07] <eightiesk> oot@eightiesk-kubuntu:~# password eightiesk
[08:07] <eightiesk> bash: password: command not found
[08:07] <unstablesob> eightiesk, is passwd
[08:07] <unstablesob> *its
[08:07] <mheath> shadowpanda, go through what? :P
[08:08] <mitrovarr> shadowpanda:  I know how it is... I hate having to constantly boot back and forth from linux to windows.  At least check to make sure your games are supposed to work before you put all the effort into compiling cedega.
[08:08] <eightiesk> i dunno its password
[08:08] <shadowpanda> mhealth: command prompt things, i have been working with linux all day
[08:08] <Lynoure> eightiesk: sorry, a morning typo, meant   passwd
[08:08] <bala> bruenig thanks ya. i download it and check.
[08:08] <unstablesob> eightiesk, the command is called 'passwd' not 'password'
[08:08] <shadowpanda> mitrovarr: is there a list?
[08:09] <asdx> hi i'm running ubuntu on a athlon 64 system and i get a black screen with nvidia driver
[08:09] <asdx> how can i fix that
[08:09] <mitrovarr> shadowpanda:  Sort of.  It's not so good as the winedb.  Here you go.  http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/
[08:09] <technician> anyone good in squid ?
[08:09] <technician> can anyone help me ?
[08:09] <shadowpanda> mitrovarr: yeah I saw this list
[08:09] <mheath> shadowpanda, no ones forcing you too. If your a 'kid' that shouldn't 'have to spend your time' doing this, don't. Go play in your backyard :)
[08:10] <shadowpanda> haha im not that young
[08:10] <shadowpanda> well g'night folks
[08:10] <mitrovarr> shadowpanda:  However not all that stuff will work with compiled cedega (because it doesn't emulate copy protection.)  Be warned.
[08:10] <cliffd> hey guys, is there a way to do an install that asks more questions about the setup?
[08:11] <KingLear> Hello
[08:11] <J-_> Can Tripwire run on Ubuntu?
[08:11] <KingLear> How do I upgrade to Dapper Drake from Breezy?
[08:11] <dead|shell> evening
[08:11] <fyrestrtr> !upgrade > KingLear
[08:11] <narfmaster> i don't know if it works but tripwire is in the repos
[08:12] <J-_> if it's in the repo'
[08:12] <J-_> s
[08:12] <J-_> it must
[08:12] <Dragonfyre13> Hey guys.
[08:12] <J-_> gonna try it out :D
[08:12] <KingLear> I did insert the Dapper CD into the drive, and ran synaptic , but couldnt succeed in upgrading
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> KingLear: read the url ubotu sent you
[08:12] <mitrovarr> KingLear:  You don't need a CD to upgrade.  Are you trying to do it offline?
[08:12] <KingLear> Okay fyrestrtr
[08:13] <Dragonfyre13> Hey, another guy that spells it Fyre.
[08:13] <KingLear> Yes mitrovarr  , considering that I do have the CD
[08:13] <KingLear> available,
[08:13] <KingLear> and that it is the time saving option available to me,
[08:14] <ceruleantiger> when I enter some commands into my .Xsession, sometimes they don't launch. For example, I'll do kompose &, kopete &, ktorrent &, and amule & (in that order), but amule never loads, and sometimes ktorrent doesn't either
[08:14] <ceruleantiger> is there some sort of log somewhere to look at?
[08:15] <Dragonfyre13> You did click reload, and make sure that the CD repo was active first right?
[08:15] <Dragonfyre13> sry, that was at kinglear
[08:15] <kaot> ceruleantiger: ~/.xsession-errors, maybe
[08:15] <KingLear> yes Dragonfyre13
[08:15] <Dragonfyre13> Just wanted to make sure.
[08:16] <KingLear> You know  I was successful the same way when I upgraded to BReezy,
[08:16] <KingLear> but last night I somehow forgot the " proper " method,
[08:16] <KingLear> Laughs Out Loud
[08:17] <Dragonfyre13> try dropping to the CLI and typing apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade
[08:17] <Dragonfyre13> Maybe it errors for some reason.
[08:17] <narfmaster> apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:17] <Dragonfyre13> ah. sorry.
[08:18] <Dragonfyre13> do we have  a bot here at all?
[08:18] <mitrovarr> ubotu, yeah
[08:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about yeah
[08:18] <fyrestrtr> !ubotu
[08:18] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:18] <ubotu> foo
[08:19] <Dragonfyre13> ubuto apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:19] <Dragonfyre13> ubuto, apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:19] <Dragonfyre13> nothing.
[08:19] <ceruleantiger> ok, I have no idea what's wrong... kompose gives like a million errors, but I'm not sure they're critical... kompose starts properly though, and ktorrent and amule doesn't even seem to be starting...
[08:20] <Dragonfyre13> ceruleantiger, can you run them from gnome menu?
[08:20] <synd2> Hi. I'm having internet oddities..
[08:20] <KingLear> Dragonfyre13,  I did that as well in CLI
[08:20] <KingLear> :)
[08:20] <ceruleantiger> what does X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169  Major opcode:  147  Minor opcode:  3  Resource id:  0x0 Failed to open device mean? because that happens like 100 times in my xsession errors
[08:20] <Dragonfyre13> Can you pastebin the outpu?
[08:20] <Dragonfyre13> Can you pastebin the output?
[08:20] <KingLear> I will try again
[08:20] <synd2> Firefox is acting weird, connecting fine to some things, and hanging at others
[08:20] <Dragonfyre13> synd2 what exactly?
[08:20] <KingLear> and then will be ready to oblige you, Dragonfyre13  , :)
[08:21] <unstablesob> ceruleantiger, i think that might be from the wacom drivers they enable automatically
[08:21] <Dragonfyre13> ^_^
[08:21] <synd2> Dragonfyre13: Just general browsing
[08:21] <ceruleantiger> yeah, everything works if I launch them manually. If I type in amule & in a term, it always launches fine - same with the rest, so I'm wondering if this is a .Xsession quirk or something?
[08:21] <Dragonfyre13> hmmm.
[08:21] <ceruleantiger> what are wacom drivers?!
[08:21] <Dragonfyre13> wacom drivers are drivers for input on a teblet drawing device.
[08:21] <unstablesob> ceruleantiger, a popular graphics tablet
[08:21] <synd2> ceruleantiger: Drives for Wacom tablets
[08:22] <synd2> Drivers*
[08:22] <unstablesob> ceruleantiger, if you're up to it, you can disable them in your xorg.conf to get rid of the errors
[08:22] <Dragonfyre13> actually they even work on tabletpcs.
[08:22] <Dragonfyre13> That or grab BUM and disable them there.
[08:23] <Dragonfyre13> synd2 can you be more specific about the hanging?
[08:23] <ceruleantiger> meh, I think I heard about some kind of problem where you couldn't comment them out... in any case, I don't think it's causing any problems so I guess I'll just leave it be
[08:23] <Dragonfyre13> ceruleantiger, they crap on my unless I do it in BUM.
[08:23] <Dragonfyre13> me*
[08:23] <ceruleantiger> any idea why my apps won't launch? If I launch via terminal, they all launch 100% of the time... could it be a timeout thing?
[08:23] <synd2> Dragonfyre13: It just sits there saying "connecting to.."
[08:24] <ceruleantiger> I noticed that when kopete launched and I didn't type anything into kwallet, the rest of the Xsession did not launch after that
[08:24] <Dragonfyre13> synd2 try using opera or links and see if it does the same thing. Also, are you on broadband, if so what kind.
[08:24] <synd2> Dragonfyre13: I noticed it timing out on things when I apt-get update
[08:25] <Dragonfyre13> hmmm.
[08:25] <ceruleantiger> plus, ktorrent takes forever to load, so maybe there is a similar timeout problem when launching amule? Does the Xsession file time out?
[08:25] <synd2> Dragonfyre13: Then those same things would connect fine a few secs later
[08:25] <synd2> Dragonfyre13: I'm on cable
[08:25] <Dragonfyre13> synd2: do you have a router?
[08:25] <synd2> Dragonfyre13: WRT54G
[08:26] <synd2> Dragonfyre13: I tried surfing from a roommate's XP machine and it doesn't hang
[08:26] <Dragonfyre13> synd2: cycle the router, and the cable modem.
[08:26] <synd2> Dragonfyre13: Did that :)
[08:26] <mitrovarr> if the installer stops while installing an item, is there any way to get it to skip it and go on?
[08:26] <synd2> mitrovarr: ctrl-C
[08:26] <Dragonfyre13> synd2: also, what programs are you running that access the network, internet or otherwise.
[08:27] <Dragonfyre13> mitrovarr what installer?
[08:27] <mitrovarr> synd2:  Thanks!  Although on second examination of the logs, it's going on, it's only the update that's hung :-D
[08:27] <Dragonfyre13> brb
[08:27] <mitrovarr> Nevermind... it just looked like it was hung, the installer is actually continuing
[08:27] <synd2> Dragonfyre13: XMMS is connected to a stream and it's going fine
[08:27] <mitrovarr> It just isn't updating the screen
[08:27] <synd2> Dragonfyre13: And I'm connected to IRC via X-Chat
[08:28] <mitrovarr> oh and it's xubuntu alternate text installer
[08:28] <narfmaster> synd2, are you on static IP?
[08:28] <synd2> narfmaster: No, DHCP
[08:28] <Yan> do you know a good ftp with ssl ????
[08:29] <newbieme> hello! got a terrible problem here.... may friend just execute an fsck in my machine and it seems that the partitions got corrupted... here is the error http://pastebin.ca/81687 is there any way to restore it? :(
[08:29] <narfmaster> proftpd
[08:29] <newbieme> any idea?
[08:29] <newbieme> really need your help guys..
[08:29] <xnulld> xxx
[08:29] <Dragonfyre13> do a few traceroutes to addresses that it is hanging on.
[08:29] <synd2> Dragonfyre13: images.apple.com
[08:29] <Yan> is easy too install or ???
[08:29] <synd2> It was hanging on that earlier
[08:30] <synd2> But now it goes thru
[08:30] <synd2> :/
[08:30] <narfmaster> Yan, proftpd is fairly simple
[08:30] <Yan> k thk
[08:30] <Yan> im try
[08:31] <narfmaster> synd2, it could be the ISP reconfiguring their servers right now
[08:32] <synd2> narfmaster: Ok.
[08:32] <synd2> Guess we'll see in the morning
[08:32] <narfmaster> i've seen a lot of weirdness lately on the net
[08:32] <synd2> This is a fresh install of Ubuntu, and I didn't notice it on my normal box (OS X
[08:32] <synd2> )
[08:32] <synd2> :/
[08:34] <Dragonfyre13> OK, synd2 try this: tracepath images.apple.com/80
[08:35] <brutopia> can I somehow configure my ubuntu so that users connecting through ssh can only execute irssi and screen and they can't browse my /etc and stuff
[08:35] <Dragonfyre13> brutopia create a user for ssh, and mod the permissions for etc to not include them.
[08:36] <xnulld> very hard
[08:36] <Dragonfyre13> brutopia it may take some work, but just create a user that has no access to anything other than what screen and irssi need.
[08:36] <dead|shell> newbieme, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-8106.html
[08:36] <Yan> start the proftpd what is a file ????
[08:37] <brutopia> I think setting permissions on those folders may break something on my system
[08:37] <brutopia> can I use chroot for that
[08:37] <narfmaster> Yan, /etc/init.d/proftpd
[08:37] <Trishika> when i try to boot into ubuntu from grub, i get an error that says " couldnt load lib modules 2.6.12-oci6.mdk-i586
[08:37] <Dragonfyre13> depending on how you do it.
[08:37] <Trishika> from LILO*
[08:37] <newbieme> thanks dead|shell
[08:38] <brutopia> Dragonfyre13: is there some other way than denying access from 'other'
[08:38] <Dragonfyre13> Trishika why did you load a mandrake package? Anyway, it's saying it can't load the oci module into the kernel.
[08:38] <brutopia> and setting myself in group which has access
[08:38] <dead|shell> newbieme, not sure if thats enough info though :(
[08:38] <Trishika> ok how do i set lilo so it loads the image needed to start up ubuntu? ubuntu is located on hda1
[08:39] <Dragonfyre13> brutopia, chroot them into a directory, and put irssi and screen installed in there is a best case scenario, but if not, just set permissions to what you can. Or, you could always tell us what you are trying to accomplish, and we could try to figure out a better way to get there.
[08:39] <Yan> is not finctionnel in the platform
[08:40] <power1> Hey all, I have just installed a "Creative Labs SB Audigy LS" in my system to replace an old SB Live, I have got sound working, but olnly the "analog front" slider changes the volume, there is no sound in games like quake3 and quake4 and I cannot change the volume using mplayer or xmms. Can someone help with this?
[08:40] <Yan> fonctionnel ***
[08:40] <Trishika> functional?
[08:40] <narfmaster> Trishika, image = /boot/vmlinux
[08:40] <DaveyJ> whats a good/easy mp3 encoder for ubuntu?
[08:40] <DaveyJ> drag and drop preferably
[08:40] <Dragonfyre13> audacity.
[08:40] <Trishika> ok thanks
[08:40] <DaveyJ> audacity is frozen :( lol
[08:40] <Yan> Ca does not function in the plateform
[08:41] <DaveyJ> and i dont wnana look for the rest of the processes
[08:41] <Dragonfyre13> ok, well hang on Daveyj.
[08:41] <Trishika> it says syntax error
[08:42] <Dragonfyre13> wait, are you ripping from a CD, or reencoding?
[08:42] <DaveyJ> just encoding from wav to mp3
[08:42] <DaveyJ> doesnt have to be the best quality
[08:42] <Dragonfyre13> OK, hang on.
[08:42] <DaveyJ> thanks :)
[08:42] <DaveyJ> i cant even kill the rest of the processes
[08:42] <brutopia> Dragonfyre13: I just want to provide screen+irssi access to my friend so that he can't access files anywhere else in my system
[08:43] <scheuri> hi all
[08:45] <narfmaster> DaveyJ, you try soundconverter?
[08:45] <Dragonfyre13> Yep, just about to suggest that.
[08:45] <Yan> Can does not function in the plateform ??? Proftpd
[08:45] <DaveyJ> nope :) i will now
[08:46] <narfmaster> Yan, you might want to try using gproftpd to get set up
[08:48] <Dragonfyre13> brutopia, create a chrooted enviromnment where he can log in to access those tools. Just install them via apt-get to make everything kosher.
[08:48] <Dragonfyre13> in the chrooted env of course.
[08:48] <devmodem> hi, what is the equivalent of debian's ``debian-volatile'' section in ubuntu?
[08:48] <Trishika> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-25-386 --tharts the image that lilo hasset as my ubuntu image in the bootloader
[08:48] <Dragonfyre13> universe or multiverse.
[08:49] <DaveyJ> wait why is mp3 disabled by default?
[08:49] <novato_xubuntu> how do i configure my monitor? I mean brand, model... etc..
[08:49] <Dragonfyre13> DaveyJ, install win32 codecs.
[08:49] <Tomcat_> DaveyJ: Because the MP3 codec is legally questionable to package.
[08:49] <Trishika> when it starts up i get a kernal panic- not syncing  VFS-unable to mount roofs on unknown block 3,1
[08:49] <DaveyJ> i thought i already did that
[08:49] <DaveyJ> must have been on my old install
[08:49] <DaveyJ> old ubuntu install*
[08:50] <Dragonfyre13> novato_xubuntu, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:50] <DaveyJ> yeah i do have themn installed
[08:50] <DaveyJ> w32codecs
[08:50] <KingLear> Dragonfyre13,  thank you for the help and guidance,
[08:50] <KingLear> Gotta Leave
[08:50] <scheuri> DaveyJ: the reason is because of license restriction...and help is provided at help.ubuntu.com
[08:50] <scheuri> !restricted
[08:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:50] <KingLear> see ya all again,
[08:50] <KingLear> bye
[08:50] <Dragonfyre13> Sure KingLear os everything good now?
[08:50] <Dragonfyre13> bye.
[08:51] <KingLear> yeah i forgot to put sudo before the apt-get update command last night
[08:51] <KingLear> bye
[08:51] <gr8rahul> apt-get install xmms says ... xmms package not available ...
[08:51] <Dragonfyre13> besides, oggvorbis has better playback in ubuntu anyway. ^_^
[08:51] <novato_xubuntu> Dragonfyre13 yeahp, but when it tryies to detect the monitor, it goes for the generic one..
[08:51] <DaveyJ> okay i'll use .ogg ;)
[08:51] <gr8rahul> what to do ??
[08:51] <Dragonfyre13> ah. Bye.
[08:51] <scheuri> gr8rahul: have you enabled the multiverse and universe repositories?
[08:51] <gr8rahul> apt-cache search shows the package ..
[08:51] <gr8rahul> @scheuri ... yup
[08:51] <narfmaster> xmms should be in main
[08:52] <Dragonfyre13> BRB guys. Gonna try another IRC client.
[08:52] <K^Holtz> im on imdb.com and i wanna view a trailer, is there a plugin i need to install to view wmv videos in firefox? i clicked the plugin button but it said there was nothing
[08:52] <scheuri> xmms in main? oh okay
[08:52] <novato_xubuntu> how do i configure my monitor? I mean brand, model... etc..
[08:52] <scheuri> K^Holtz: wmv are a pita in linux....try to have a look at !restricted
[08:52] <scheuri> !restricted
[08:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:53] <scheuri> novato_xubuntu: well, plut it in and make a "sudo apt-get reconfigure xorg-server"
[08:53] <K^Holtz> scheuri: i have read all of those before, i have installed w32codecs and what goes along with it, is there a plugin for firefox or no?
[08:53] <Yan> gproftpd ask me to run as root
[08:53] <cps> K^Holtz: install mozilla-mplayer
[08:53] <DaveyJ> i think my sound card is frozen up in general
[08:53] <Yan> ubunto don't work as root in a platform
[08:53] <narfmaster> Yan, sudo gproftpd
[08:53] <scheuri> K^Holtz: I'd say...no, there isnt...you have to dl the wmv in order to watch it
[08:53] <Yan> yes in a shell
[08:53] <devmodem> DaveyJ: see this: http://www.mp3licensing.com/royalty/software.html
[08:53] <Yan> me im work in a platform
[08:54] <devmodem> DaveyJ: this is why mp3 support is not there
[08:54] <K^Holtz> cps: that will allow me to watch the trailer in firefox?
[08:54] <DaveyJ> i understand why :)
[08:54] <DaveyJ> but now i cant get anything to work
[08:54] <cps> K^Holtz: yeah
[08:54] <scheuri> cps: thanks...didnt know that
[08:54] <Trishika> what initrd should i set for ubuntu in lilo? my current one is  /boot/initrd-2.6.12-oci6.mdk-i586-up-1GB.img
[08:54] <DaveyJ> 02:38   0:00 [aud]  <defunct>
[08:54] <DaveyJ> thats in my processes :(
[08:55] <novato_xubuntu> scheuri: do I have to upgrade that?
[08:55] <novato_xubuntu> *update
[08:55] <DaveyJ> is there a way to release and restart the sound driver? (audigy2)
[08:55] <scheuri> novato_xubuntu: well, actually no...just plug the monitor in and then restart the configuration of x-server ("sudo apt-get reconfigre xorg-server")
[08:56] <K^Holtz> funny, i have to download 8 differnet packages just to view a trailer
[08:56] <nomin> Trishika: do you have mandriva installed?
[08:56] <scheuri> novato_xubuntu: it may just work when plugged in...no need to reconfigure...:)
[08:56] <novato_xubuntu> scheuri, and if it doesn't get it... what should I do?
[08:57] <scheuri> novato_xubuntu: it will take a standard-driver...which pretty much will work....no worries...I personally never had troubles with screens
[08:57] <DaveyJ> no?
[08:57] <K^Holtz> !mplayer
[08:57] <ubotu> No fonts in mplayer? Install mplayer fonts. Codecs: see !codecs
[08:57] <trjones> DaveyJ: sudo modprobe -r audigy2
[08:57] <novato_xubuntu> scheuri, yes, but I have a lot of 'flicking'in here...
[08:57] <trjones> assuming your sound card module is called audigy2
[08:58] <scheuri> novato_xubuntu: well then you should do a REconfigure of xorg-server!
[08:58] <trjones> you can type 'lsmod' to figure it out
[08:58] <DaveyJ> i wonder what the module name is called
[08:58] <trjones> then reload it with 'sudo modprobe audigy2'
[08:58] <novato_xubuntu> scheuri, ok thank's  :)
[08:58] <trjones> what is the output of 'sudo lsmod' ?
[08:59] <DaveyJ> i'm just gunna re-login
[09:00] <trjones> that always works :)
[09:00] <DaveyJ> okay i cant even log out lol
[09:00] <DaveyJ> grahhhhh
[09:00] <trjones> ctrl+alt+backspace ?
[09:02] <trjones> does anyone have some advice for helping someone who is new to ubuntu/linux? I'm trying to help a friend switch from windows to ubuntu...
[09:02] <__doc__> hi, a question. when I press <alt> and then left key and move it moves windows around in my gnome. However, <alt>+<left-click>+<move> is a shortcut gimp uses for some stuff...
[09:02] <__doc__> but because that shortcut is intercepted by gnome gimp never sees it
[09:03] <trjones> you can change your keyboard shortcuts in Desktop-> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[09:03] <__doc__> how do I turn off gnome <alt>+<leftclick>+<move> shortcut?
[09:04] <__doc__> I can't seem to find the specific option for alt+mouse thingy in there?
[09:04] <SurfnKid> trjones, whats up
[09:04] <narfmaster> __doc__, that's in "Windows" Preferences
[09:04] <trjones> hi ;)
[09:04] <SurfnKid> yo
[09:04] <DaveyJ> gotta love a hard restart
[09:05] <SurfnKid> whatcha tryin to do
[09:05] <__doc__> narfmaster: Windows preferences?
[09:05] <__doc__> ah, preferences -> windows
[09:05] <narfmaster> __doc__, System > Preferences > Windows
[09:05] <narfmaster> DaveyJ, sudo reboot :)
[09:05] <trjones> i was just looking for some links to sites that might help an ubuntu newbie get off the ground
[09:05] <trjones> maybe some apps to help get things setup quick and easy
[09:06] <SurfnKid> tell him to download the LIVECD
[09:06] <trjones> I found automatix and ran it for him
[09:06] <SurfnKid> ah
[09:06] <trjones> ya, I already helped hime install
[09:06] <SurfnKid> cool
[09:06] <Madpilot> trjones, ick - why did you inflict that on a newbie?
[09:06] <SurfnKid> hehe
[09:06] <SurfnKid> yeah watch out
[09:06] <trjones> really?
[09:06] <__doc__> now funnily my gimp wont folly the instruction, altough it shows the selection movement icon upon pressing <alt>
[09:06] <SurfnKid> sometimes the transition from windows to linux can be traumatic
[09:06] <__doc__> a-ha
[09:06] <SurfnKid> if not handled properly by professionals
[09:06] <trjones> what  problems does automatix have?
[09:06] <SurfnKid> :P
[09:07] <AnAnt> how can I install Ubuntu via PXE ?
[09:07] <AnAnt> !ubotu pxe
[09:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu pxe
[09:07] <AnAnt> !ubotu install
[09:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu install
[09:08] <SurfnKid> AnAnt, try again
[09:08] <AnAnt> !ubotu pxe
[09:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu pxe
[09:08] <Madpilot> trjones, automatix uses a number of unsafe scripting practices, and the developer is frankly anti-social & won't take bug reports...
[09:08] <SurfnKid> hehe diff question :P
[09:08] <AnAnt> !ubotu network install
[09:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu network install
[09:09] <AnAnt> !ubotu ubuntu install
[09:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu ubuntu install
[09:09] <AnAnt> !ubotu help
[09:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu help
[09:09] <narfmaster> !syslinux
[09:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about syslinux
[09:09] <mc__> !install
[09:09] <trjones> hmm, but once it has installed things you can just get rid of it and forget about it since it does everything through apt-get right?
[09:09] <AnAnt> oh
[09:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:09] <AnAnt> thx
[09:09] <mc__> np
[09:10] <DaveyJ> okay wtf
[09:10] <tim> hello
[09:10] <DaveyJ> whenever i open audacity and then close it .. it crashes a whole bunch of media programs
[09:10] <tim> did you try the other program yet?
[09:10] <narfmaster> repo version of audacity?
[09:11] <eternalsword> hi, i'm using fglrx with a 128MB ati x300  and under fireglcontrol, it only lists 32MB for the card.  How do I change it to utilize all 128MB?
[09:12] <narfmaster> audacity is actually looking pretty good lately
[09:12] <narfmaster> just not very stable just yet
[09:13] <mattyv> eternalsword: forgive my possible ignorance but...are you sure the card has 128mb onboard, or is it shared with system ram like many lower end cards
[09:13] <eternalsword> I am positive 128MB onboard, no shared.
[09:14] <dibblego> is it possible to create an archive of a directory that is multiple files of a specific size?
[09:14] <mattyv> eternalsword: ok, im no expert on ati cards but maybe the drivers are too old to support your card properly, i could be completely wrong tho
[09:15] <eternalsword> any idea how I would update the drivers?
[09:16] <eternalsword> or a site I could go to explaining that sort of stuff?
[09:16] <cps> dibblego: what do you mean?
[09:16] <dibblego> cps, a directory containing many files - I wish to create an archive of it that spans multiple files
[09:17] <cps> dibblego: I think I know what you mean now
[09:18] <cps> dibblego: you can use zipsplit
[09:18] <mattyv> eternalsword: this seems to be a recent forum thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204910&
[09:19] <mitrovarr> hmm... anyone have any idea what might be a typical horizsync and vertrefresh for a laptop with a resolution of 1024x768?
[09:19] <dibblego> thanks
[09:19] <dibblego> cps, what's the extract command for zipsplit?
[09:20] <eternalsword> thanks, I'll read through it.
[09:20] <nofx_br> its possible to vmware use a mounted iso to install win ?? how to do it in ubuntu?
[09:20] <Tomcat_> mitrovarr: Do you even need that for TFTs?
[09:20] <dibblego> noflex, yes, configure the CD-ROM
[09:20] <dibblego> point the CD-ROM to an ISO
[09:20] <mitrovarr> Tomcat:  Apparently, it won't let me set it to 1024x768.
[09:21] <cps> dibblego: for example: zipsplit -n 3600 ZIPFILE
[09:21] <syn-ack> Well, since VMWare is a for-profit product, since you presumably paid for said product you have access to support.
[09:21] <Tomcat_> syn-ack: vmware has free (beer) products. :o
[09:21] <cps> dibblego: where ZIPFILE is your existing zip file to be split and the number after -n is how big you want each piece to be in bytes
[09:22] <narfmaster> vmplayer has lots of tutorials on the net too :)
[09:22] <mattyv> eternalsword: there's also this, just had to check it was up to date https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:23] <dibblego> cps, and zipsplit is to create the zipfiles as well? every time I try it seems to expect the zip file to already exist
[09:23] <cps> dibblego: no it only divides existing zip files
[09:24] <dibblego> cps, then how do I create the spanned zip?
[09:24] <darth_gimp> Why am I getting an error when I run the Add/Remove from Applications under Dapper?
[09:24] <cps> dibblego: first create the zip file and then run zipsplit on it
[09:24] <dibblego> oh right
[09:24] <NickGarvey> j #gentoo
[09:25] <NickGarvey> heh
[09:25] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, what error?
[09:25] <darth_gimp> Check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list'
[09:25] <darth_gimp> I look at that file at it looks Greek to me.
[09:25] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, have you edited your sources.list file at all?
[09:25] <darth_gimp> No
[09:26] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, "Check the file permissions..." etc is the only error you get?
[09:26] <darth_gimp> This is a major failure of your software management system. Check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information: 'sudo apt-get update'.
[09:26] <darth_gimp> That's the entire message
[09:26] <narfmaster> darth_gimp, try using Synaptic
[09:27] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, that sounds odd - but fixable
[09:27] <dibblego> someone told me earlier how to use the -o option to mount where one of the options contains a comma - but I forgot who/what it was
[09:27] <mitrovarr> I can't get the resolution I need this laptop to use to show up as an option in the resolution-switching utility.  Any ideas?
[09:27] <dibblego> mitrovarr, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:27] <darth_gimp> Narf.. I just used it for a rendering program called YafRay and now I have no clue where it went.. its not on the Graphics menu.
[09:27] <tonsofpcs> hi
[09:27] <tonsofpcs> with ubuntu, can one just apt-get install without screwing things up?
[09:27] <mitrovarr> dibblego:  I have been, and it's in the screens settings, but it still won't appear.
[09:28] <narfmaster> tonsofpcs, yes
[09:28] <darth_gimp> MadPilot // I'm willing to follow if you will lead
[09:28] <scheuri> tonsofpcs: yes...but I recommend to use aptitude instead of apt-get
[09:28] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, sure, just a second
[09:28] <tonsofpcs> and apt-cache update works too?
[09:28] <scheuri> tonsofpcs: aye
[09:28] <darth_gimp> Madpilot// Thanks
[09:28] <narfmaster> tonsofpcs, anything apt related should work fine
[09:29] <nofx_br> dibblego: so what is the command to mount as a virtual drive ? #mount -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/cdrom -o loop    dont work
[09:29] <bjron> I've got a problem: Just added a dvd drive to my system, but if I try to boot the machine w/ anytihng in the drive, the system hangs when starting hald.  Also if I boot w/o a disk in, and then insert one, the computer freezes.  I suspect these two symptoms are related (think the system freeze is when it tries to automount the disk. . )
[09:29] <darth_gimp> Narf // any idea why this program was installed with synaptec and now not showing in the menus?
[09:29] <dibblego> nofx_br, you just point the VMWare image's CD-ROM to the ISO file
[09:29] <narfmaster> darth_gimp, not everything has a menu item
[09:29] <nofx_br> ah... let me find it.. heheh
[09:30] <darth_gimp> narfmaster, how would I find and then run the program?
[09:30] <narfmaster> bjron, you can load iso file in file-roller (Archive Manager)
[09:30] <narfmaster> darth_gimp, you could try ls /usr/bin
[09:30] <bjron> narfmaster, ? I'm not sure how that helps me. .
[09:31] <NickGarvey> yeah I'm not either
[09:31] <narfmaster> bjron, just making a suggestion :)
[09:31] <narfmaster> oops, sorry byron i meant nofx_br
[09:32] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, close Add Remove Apps, open Synaptic (System->Administration->Synaptic) and when it loads, hit the Reload button - tell me what that does
[09:32] <narfmaster> *bjron
[09:32] <bjron> narfmaster, heh, no prob
[09:32] <darth_gimp> narfmaster, ok its there listed in yellow.
[09:32] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, and not everything shows up in the menus after it's installed by Synaptic, just so you know
[09:32] <narfmaster> most things are in /usr/bin
[09:32] <nofx_br> uhahuahu q mal ! instalando o windus
[09:33] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, Can it be added to a panel
[09:33] <nofx_br> dentro do ubuntu
[09:33] <RedEyE> hi, I have a problem with installation of Ubuntu. Instalation fails wth this http://tmp.bartik.org/error.jpg Can some one tell me that i am doing wrong?
[09:33] <mitrovarr> freaky.  I tried to force it into 1024x768 and it ended up in 960x720
[09:33] <Madpilot> nofx_br, English here, please
[09:33] <Madpilot> !pt
[09:33] <nofx_br> ops.. wrong window.. sorry
[09:33] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:33] <mitrovarr> which is a freaky misshapen resolution.  I didn't know laptops could do that!
[09:33] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, yes, if you know the name of the app
[09:33] <nofx_br> dibblego: heheh.. easy.. worked.. tnx
[09:33] <unstablesob> RedEyE, looks like either a bad cd or a bad cd drive
[09:33] <Sly> how do i configure my sound card properly, or to make sure the drivers are installed, because im using USB headset and its different, because it isnt hooked onto my sound card
[09:34] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, its in /usr/bin listed in yellow
[09:34] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, what's the name of it?
[09:34] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, yafray
[09:34] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, open a terminal, type yafray
[09:34] <RedEyE> unstablesob>> I will try to burn iso file again. Thanks
[09:35] <unstablesob> RedEyE, try burning it at a slower speed, and check the md5sum of the iso before you burn it
[09:35] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, ok.. looks like it might be a command line thing.
[09:35] <NickGarvey> you can check the MD5SUM after you burn it
[09:36] <NickGarvey> just md5sum /dev/cdrom
[09:36] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, what are you trying to do? (what is yafray supposed to do?)
[09:36] <RedEyE> NickGarvey>> I have no linux here ;-)
[09:36] <unstablesob> but why wait till after you've wasted a cd if you have a bad download?
[09:36] <NickGarvey> RedEyE: oh ouch ;)
[09:37] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, It is a Free RayTrace program.. to render. It goes with Blender 3D.. or so I'm told
[09:37] <unstablesob> RedEyE, you can get an md5sum program for windows
[09:37] <mitrovarr> anyone know how to force X to start in a specific resolution and no other?
[09:37] <narfmaster> RedEyE, you can use QuickPar or something like that to check md5s
[09:37] <unstablesob> mitrovarr, edit your xorg.conf
[09:37] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, ah - I've never used Blender3d, and it's been a couple of years since I messed with 3d rendering stuff at all...
[09:38] <NickGarvey> Madpilot: blender is pretty
[09:38] <mitrovarr> unstablesob:  I have been, but it refuses to start in the only resolution I gave it in screens.
[09:38] <mitrovarr> unstablesob:  It drops to a slightly lower resolution instead
[09:38] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, No worries.. it probably runs from within Blender..
[09:39] <unstablesob> mitrovarr, you might need to add HorizSync and VertRefresh for your monitor then
[09:39] <mitrovarr> unstablesob:  It's a laptop screen.  I can't even begin to guess what numbers to use.
[09:39] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, Still up to helping with the Add/Remove issue?
[09:39] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, sure - does Synaptic give you the same error that Add/Remove Apps does?
[09:39] <mitrovarr> unstablesob:  I think it does 1024x768x70hz
[09:39] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, not at all
[09:40] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, odd
[09:40] <control> !ru
[09:40] <unstablesob> mitrovarr, you can get the numbers from the INF file used by Windows as well
[09:40] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[09:40] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, I agree. It worked fine under Breezy...
[09:40] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, I'd say just ditch Add/Remove in favour of Synaptic, but that's not all that helpful :)
[09:40] <mitrovarr> unstablesob:  know where it would be stored in 98?  Windows has been formatted off, but everything was backed up.
[09:41] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, I liked Add/Remove for the list of things in the catagories.
[09:41] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, yeah, it's useful, I use both myself
[09:41] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, can you pastebin your sources.list file for me?
[09:41] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell darth_gimp about paste
[09:42] <unstablesob> mitrovarr, can you get the monitor driver from the manufactuers website?
[09:42] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, sure.. but the bot didn't tell me anything
[09:42] <seagulltheme> I keep getting error messages specific to KDE, but I'm running gnome and KDE isn't even installed.  Anyone have any idea why this is or how i could fix it
[09:42] <mitrovarr> unstablesob:  Actually, I tracked down the inf file and looked at it.  It doesn't contain any information of that sort.
[09:42] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, it should have sent you a PM - but use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to copy the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:42] <cps> seagulltheme: what are the errors?
[09:43] <mitrovarr> unstablesob:  I'm not sure I need the exact accurate horiz and vert.  Do you know just typical values for a 1024x768 monitor?
[09:43] <unstablesob> mitrovarr, i dont' i always use the exact numbers for my displays
[09:43] <narfmaster> mitrovarr, there really aren't any typical scanning values
[09:43] <juan> ubnutu doesnt seam to use my 4th and 5th mouse buttons in firefox, is there a way to get it to go back/forwards
[09:44] <seagulltheme> They are of all sorts, usually saying it can't read a file or that something isn't running.  The one I have now says "dcopserver" isn't running and that it can't read a file that doesn't exist
[09:44] <mitrovarr> ok.  I'll go try to find the real ones.
[09:44] <unstablesob> mitrovarr, can you pastebin the file at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[09:45] <mitrovarr> unstablesob:  The inf file?  I can read it, it doesn't contain any useful information.
[09:45] <narfmaster> mitrovarr, i usually just Google search the manufacturer name and model number
[09:45] <cps> seagulltheme: is this from a fresh login?
[09:45] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17675
[09:45] <markedwards> hi all, can anyone assist installing ubuntu on an intel Mac?
[09:46] <seagulltheme> what do you mean?
[09:46] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, looking, just a moment
[09:46] <cps> seagulltheme: do these error appear as soon as you login?
[09:47] <cps> seagulltheme: *errors
[09:47] <seagulltheme> cps:  No, they appear when I try to run certain programs, specifically KVocTrain and amaroK.  The programs work fine, but I get error messages nonetheless
[09:47] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, that's a fairly messed-up sources.list - did you run automatix or something like it on your Ubuntu install?
[09:47] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, I may have.. I don't remember.
[09:47] <unstablesob> mitrovarr, are you by chance using nvidia drivers?
[09:48] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, is it fixable?
[09:48] <mitrovarr> unstablesob:  Hah!  I wish.  This POS has a virge.
[09:48] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, paste http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17674 into your sources.list instead, and restart Add/Remove
[09:48] <cps> seagulltheme: yeah those are KDE apps
[09:48] <seagulltheme> cps:  I've never had any trouble with them before today, though.
[09:49] <cps> seagulltheme: have you changed anything, installed or removed any packages?
[09:49] <Sly> is there a winamp? or something for ubuntu
[09:49] <Madpilot> Sly, for playing mp3?
[09:49] <Sly> for playin shoutcast
[09:49] <narfmaster> Sly, i use xmms
[09:50] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, same issue.. do I need to totally re-start?
[09:50] <Sly> i tried
[09:50] <Sly> xmms
[09:50] <Sly> i get
[09:50] <Sly> sound card not properly configured
[09:50] <SurfnKid> i use amaroK not sure about shoutcast
[09:50] <Sly> but im using usb headphones and they work fine
[09:51] <SurfnKid> Sly, but the output hardware might be different
[09:51] <seagulltheme> cps: Nothing that should have affected the system in this way: some gtk themes, an nvidia driver, and the flashcards program
[09:51] <SurfnKid> Sly, to headphones than to speakers
[09:52] <juan> ive installed 'lm-sensors frontend for KDE' ussing the system repositry, how do i use it?
[09:52] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, you shouldn't have to... use Synaptic for now, and file a bug at http://bugs.ubuntu.com - I've never seen an error like that from Add/Remove.
[09:52] <SurfnKid> !sensors
[09:52] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[09:52] <Sly> there
[09:52] <Sly> USB headphones
[09:52] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, assuming Synaptic is still OK?
[09:52] <darth_gimp> lol let me check
[09:53] <SurfnKid> Sly, not sure there man
[09:53] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, works fine...
[09:53] <cps> seagulltheme: I'm afraid that I don't know enough about KDE
[09:54] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, very odd... file that bug against Add/Remove Apps, then...
[09:54] <seagulltheme> cps:  Thanks for your help anyway
[09:54] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, updating from Breezy to Dapper was the first update I've done.. wouldn't be sureprised if I messed it up.
[09:54] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, you just as savvy with Gimp and WACOM Tablets?
[09:55] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, nope, sorry, I do use the GIMP a fair bit, but don't own a tablet
[09:55] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, I've gone through the tutorials and still no pressure sensitivity...
[09:55] <narfmaster> darth_gimp, you might check your version of gnome-app-install (0.1.33)
[09:56] <darth_gimp> narfmaster, how?
[09:56] <narfmaster> apt-cache show gnome-app-install
[09:57] <narfmaster> gnome-app-install is a front end for Synaptic :)
[09:58] <darth_gimp> narfmaster, Version: 0.1.32
[09:58] <narfmaster> that's the original Dapper version there
[09:58] <narfmaster> one revision behind
[09:59] <Sly> i installed tor, now how do i start it?
[09:59] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, have you done all your updates on this machine? Is there an orange update symbol up by the clock?
[09:59] <hydroksyde> greetings, ubuntu users
[10:00] <nomats> sly, it might have a script at /etc/init.d
[10:00] <hydroksyde> I come from trouser land
[10:00] <darth_gimp> Mad says there is an error
[10:00] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, same error that Synaptic gives?
[10:00] <hydroksyde> and I must say
[10:00] <darth_gimp> one sec
[10:01] <hydroksyde> ubuntu is a nice distro, even if lacking a bit of polish
[10:01] <hydroksyde> I use it on my media centre
[10:01] <Glimerrati> hello...can any one help me installing SUN JAVA?
[10:01] <hydroksyde> Glimerrati, tried using easy ubuntu?
[10:01] <Glimerrati> I am a new user of ubuntu....know very little ubuntu
[10:01] <Madpilot> Glimerrati, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[10:01] <hydroksyde> google easyubuntu
[10:01] <NickGarvey> !easyubuntu
[10:01] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:02] <hydroksyde> Glimerrati, worth checking out
[10:02] <Sly> nomats, could u tell me how to start it
[10:03] <nofx_br> i installed kde, but I want that gnome login screen back... if I just take kdm out in "services" and let gdm... its a good idea?
[10:04] <kristian> anyone that knows how to specifiy where make modules_install puts all modules and other relative files?
[10:04] <NickGarvey> Sly: /etc/init.d/alsa(hit tab here) start
[10:04] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, check here http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=error5pj.png
[10:04] <scheuri> nofx_br: try "sudo apt-get reconfigure kdm" on the CLI...it lets you choose which one you want
[10:04] <nofx_br> tnx scheuri
[10:05] <nofx_br> invalid operation: reconfigure
[10:05] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, open a terminal for me, and type "ls -l /etc/apt/" (those are both Ls)
[10:05] <scheuri> nofx_br: just figured that myself...funny....I am checking it
[10:06] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, done.
[10:06] <mitrovarr> yay, I found out why it didn't work
[10:06] <mitrovarr> it can't do 1024x768x24bpp
[10:06] <nomats> Sly, sudo /etc/init.d/tor start
[10:06] <mitrovarr> only 16bpp
[10:07] <mitrovarr> it's such an old computer
[10:07] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, in the list you got from that command, can you post *just* the line with sources.list in it, please?
[10:07] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, that line should look like this: "-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1142 2006-06-12 02:18 sources.list" - the date & time might be different
[10:08] <ompaul> Madpilot, a word if you will
[10:08] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, there are a few.. I assume you don't want back-ups but there is one with a ~ at the end and then another with .d and so on
[10:08] <Madpilot> ompaul, hmm? PM if you want, anytime
[10:08] <dmitri> i think my new kernel source and headers 2.6.15-25-686 are not compiled, how can i make sure?
[10:08] <Sly> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17676
[10:08] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, anything with a ~ on the end is a backup too, actually
[10:09] <darth_gimp> -rw------- 1 root root 1193 2006-07-10 01:49 sources.list
[10:09] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, need any others?
[10:09] <narfmaster> that's it
[10:10] <narfmaster> darth_gimp, sudo chmod 644 /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:10] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, the permissions on that file are messed up, that's probably why Add/Remove is complaining - I'm not sure why Synaptic doesn't seem to care, though
[10:10] <Madpilot> narfmaster, thanks - was trying to remember the chmod command to give him :)
[10:10] <narfmaster> no problem
[10:10] <juan> i was working through a guide but dunno how to do this? >>Now test the sensor output using the lm-sensors utility "sensors". <<
[10:10] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, need any others?
[10:10] <sagitta> I am a new user of ubuntu.....can any one help me,please. I want to mount memstick, but i dont know how..:(
[10:11] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, no, just do that command that narfmaster gave you, then try Add/Remove again
[10:11] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, on my way
[10:11] <scheuri> nofx_br: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"
[10:11] <darth_gimp> narfmaster, Thanks!
[10:11] <narfmaster> darth_gimp, you're welcome
[10:11] <darth_gimp> I think...
[10:12] <darth_gimp> I think.. its working....
[10:12] <darth_gimp> Ok so.. I should run the update again as well huh?
[10:12] <Sly> i just removed my panel with my clock and everything in it
[10:12] <Sly> how do i add that back?
[10:13] <narfmaster> Sly, right-click in an empty area of the panel and select "Add to Panel"
[10:13] <darth_gimp> Madpilot, narfmaster, thanks guys.. it is now working!
[10:13] <Glimerrati> Madpilot .......... sorry it didnt help me
[10:13] <Sly> narfmaster,
[10:13] <Madpilot> darth_gimp, np - glad it's fixed
[10:13] <Sly> the panel with my start button
[10:13] <Sly> and etc
[10:13] <Sly> i only se my desktop
[10:14] <Sly> see my desktop
[10:14] <atsugnam> Sly, try what he said
[10:14] <Sly> i did, dont see that op tion
[10:14] <nofx_br> scheuri: think I found http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197997
[10:14] <atsugnam> ah
[10:14] <darth_gimp> So if I run the update manager.. this Orange thing should go away too?
[10:14] <Glimerrati> i have 6.06 but there is no sun java in my add/remove application...
[10:14] <Sly> i only see create folder, create launcher, create document
[10:14] <Sly> and alignment shit
[10:14] <Glimerrati> do I have to chagne something/anuthing in the repository....?
[10:14] <NickGarvey> !language
[10:14] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:14] <atsugnam> which ui?
[10:15] <scheuri> nofx_br: exactly...sorry...:)
[10:15] <atsugnam> sly, kde or gnome
[10:15] <shiji> hi
[10:15] <Madpilot> Glimerrati, in Add/Remove, tick both orange boxes in the middle of the right-hand stuff to enable all the repos, then look for Sun Java
[10:15] <Sly> ion
[10:15] <Sly> default i guess? just installed it
[10:15] <Sly> recently
[10:15] <Sly> ubuntu
[10:15] <atsugnam> ok, gnome...
[10:15] <juan> where am i likely to find lm-sensors utility and how do i use it?
[10:16] <atsugnam> not sure how to reverse what you have done directly, but you could nuke your prefs and log out and back in
[10:16] <NickGarvey> juan: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[10:16] <Sly> you know how taskbar is @ the top for linux well by default when you install
[10:16] <Sly> i removed
[10:16] <Sly> that panel on accident
[10:16] <Sly> which had my log out button and system clock etc
[10:16] <Sly> and i tried what you said to add it back, but doesnt work
[10:16] <atsugnam> try moving the .gnome dir in your home dir to something else, then ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X
[10:16] <Sly> dont see tha top tion
[10:16] <narfmaster> Sly use the panel on the bottom
[10:16] <spike> hi, anybody using keychain?
[10:17] <dmitri> can someone help please - i think my new kernel source and headers 2.6.15-25-686 are not compiled, how can i make sure?
[10:17] <spike> I cant get it to work... or rather, it does work but then I get prompted for pwds all the tiems regardless
[10:18] <atsugnam> dmitri, what do you mean, you need to phrase your question as a question....
[10:18] <seventy2> Morning all.
[10:18] <atsugnam> morning
[10:18] <dmitri> atsugnam: can someone help me check what version of the kernel is compiled on the computer?
[10:19] <atsugnam> does anyone know where I can get the program mkraid?
[10:19] <narfmaster> dmitri, type uname -r
[10:19] <atsugnam> dmitri, $> uname -r
[10:19] <linux-hyper> ive just installed the alternate cd as the desktop install keep crashing. now it didnt ask me to enter a username and password, but i let it continue to install the base etc etc etc. im now up to the point where the ubuntu login manager is displayed asking for a username and password... ?
[10:19] <Madpilot> Sly, right-click on your surviving panel, choose "New Panel", then "Add To Panel" to get clock & such back
[10:19] <shen> I've got an ibook running ubuntu 6.06. Any pointers on how to get it to recognise my usb mouse when I boot it up? Currently I need to unplug it and plug it back in before it starts working
[10:20] <atsugnam> shen, are the usb modules loading at boot?
[10:20] <dmitri> atsugnam: i did...and it comes up  2.6.15-25-686 - which should be ok. Only truecrypt now doesnt load with message: Failed to load TrueCrypt kernel module.
[10:20] <richiefrich> and ppc users ?
[10:20] <seventy2> I suppose I should throw my question in too then... trying to ditch the drive icons off the desktop (ubuntu 6.06).. providing awkward. Thought it would be a nautilus option.
[10:20] <linux-hyper> any idea's ?
[10:20] <atsugnam> ok, dmitri, you may need to recompile the module for truecrypt
[10:20] <dmitri> atsugnam: i recompiled truecrypt, and still it doesnt work
[10:21] <atsugnam> odd
[10:21] <richiefrich> thats are on ubuntu
[10:21] <atsugnam> check that there are no later updates to truecrypt
[10:21] <atsugnam> also, check that you have kernel-headers installed?
[10:21] <dmitri> dmitri: i did that too! and 4.2a does not build on my pc
[10:21] <juan> i followed what nick said but it doesnt give the right output i need to test the sensor output using the lm-sensors utility "sensors".
[10:21] <shen> atsugnam: I think they are loading, my usb drive is found right away, but not the mouse.
[10:21] <richiefrich> any ppc users ?
[10:22] <dmitri> atsugnam: i have linux-headers-2.6.15-25-686  in /usr/src - does that mean they are installed?
[10:22] <atsugnam> ok, maybe it is the mouse itself which doesn't like the way it is started?? not sure
[10:22] <richiefrich> nanobanshee nice to see  u
[10:22] <Madpilot> richiefrich, if you just ask your actual question, you might get better help...
[10:22] <section31> what's the best way to see human readable information about your partitions, mainly the space used and space free
[10:22] <nanobanshee> richiefrich: and you as well sir.
[10:22] <atsugnam> dmitri, you can check with synaptic, or aptitude, not sure of the specific for the command though
[10:22] <richiefrich> Madpilot i dont need help ty.. i have a flock deb
[10:22] <shen> maybe, the light of the lazer doesn't start until it is plugged in after boot. if it is plugged in while booting it stays dark until it is unplugged and plugged back in
[10:22] <narfmaster> section31, df -h
[10:22] <linux-hyper> [Logging in AFTER INSTALL issue]  ive just installed the alternate cd as the desktop install keep crashing. now it didnt ask me to enter a username and password, but i let it continue to install the base etc etc etc. im now up to the point where the ubuntu login manager is displayed asking for a username and password... ?
[10:22] <atsugnam> also, dmitri, are you sure truecrypt can work with the new kernel?
[10:23] <richiefrich> Madpilot that is for ppc
[10:23] <section31> narfmaster,i did that...is there anything better?
[10:23] <shen> where would start up errors like that be logged?
[10:23] <section31> oh wait a miknute
[10:23] <atsugnam> shen, dmesg
[10:23] <section31> i ws doing du -h
[10:23] <section31> haha
[10:23] <dmitri> atsugnam: synaptic doesnt have a package for truecrypt. i've read on their website that their new version works with all builds - as i built it from source
[10:23] <section31> narfmaster,thanks that works
[10:23] <Ademan> you guys know how the window list panel applet has that little button looking thing to the far left, that you can use to drag it around and whatnot?  what gtk widget is that?
[10:23] <atsugnam> ok, not sure dmitri, might be worthwhile looking for someone else who has it too
[10:24] <nanobanshee> Madpilot: richiefrich and I are fanatics of a certain browser from flock.com, and I have built a .deb of it on debian etch on my ibook and was wondering if I would recruit a g4 ibook/powerbook ubuntu user to test it for me.  to see if it works on ubuntu.
[10:24] <dmitri> astugnam: yeah, i been trying to forum for a week to seek someone who solved by problems! not yet
[10:25] <richiefrich> nanobanshee i just asked in #debian too
[10:25] <dmitri> atsugnam: just one more question: how do i find out what /dev/?? my wireless connection is mounted as
[10:25] <darth_gimp> Thanks again guys.. This makes life easier!
[10:25] <nanobanshee> richiefrich: I know it works on debian, you goof. I am on debian.
[10:25] <richiefrich> i know
[10:25] <atsugnam> dmitri, check out what ifconfig gives you
[10:25] <atsugnam> should be an eth0+
[10:26] <dmitri> atsugnam: guess i didnt phrase it right. ifconfig tell me connection state - but i need mounting point (in /dev/??) for my wireless crad
[10:26] <atsugnam> uhmmm, it should say devide: eth0 is .......
[10:27] <atsugnam> eth0 is the dev address
[10:27] <atsugnam> using "address" loosely
[10:27] <dmitri> atsugnam: i though eth0 was ethernt and ath0 was wireless
[10:27] <linux-hyper> [Logging in AFTER INSTALL issue]  ive just installed the alternate cd as the desktop install keep crashing. now it didnt ask me to enter a username and password, but i let it continue to install the base etc etc etc. im now up to the point where the ubuntu login manager is displayed asking for a username and password... ?
[10:28] <kaot> dmitri: wireless cards have been known to identify as eth(n), wlan0, and ath0, depending.  On what, I don't know.
[10:28] <atsugnam> dmitri, the eth0 is ethernet standard device, your wifi card will come up with something like that usually
[10:28] <Sly> when i start a program, the icon usually starts in the taskbar, but when i remove the panel on accident and added it back
[10:28] <Sly> i dont see none of the icons of the programs started
[10:28] <kaot> dmitri: If I use kernel driver for the card, it shows up as eth1.  if i use ndiswrapper, it's wlan0
[10:29] <atsugnam> Sly, it won't show any programs already running
[10:29] <atsugnam> or, it might not anyway
[10:29] <Sly> i got it athlon
[10:29] <Sly> atsugnam,
[10:29] <kaot> dmitri: also I think wireless lan has like, faux ethernet headers thrown in there for some reason, so the OS can make sense of it, since the OS kernel never sees link-level activity.
[10:29] <dmitri> kaot: my wireless shows up as ath0 in ifconfig - but there's not such entry in /dev
[10:29] <kaot> dmitri: there won't be, either.
[10:29] <Sly> atsugnam,  i added notifcation area to the taskbar :D
[10:29] <Glimerrati> thanks.....it is working
[10:29] <linux-hyper> guys is it possible to install a user ? or must i reinstall ??
[10:29] <kaot> dmitri: it isn't necessary
[10:30] <kaot> dmitri: I don't have any network interfaces in /dev
[10:30] <xbow> Hi all. Question about repositories: is there any doc how to make a local mirror of ubuntu repositories but for some platforms (386,amd64) only?
[10:30] <thomas_> could someone help me out with repositories, it fails to connect
[10:30] <atsugnam> linux-hyper, easiest way around this is to press ctrl-alt-f1
[10:30] <kaot> cd /dev/net
[10:30] <kaot> ls
[10:30] <atsugnam> linux-hyper, then log in as root on the terminal
[10:30] <kaot> doh.
[10:30] <kaot> lol
[10:30] <neutrinomass> linux-hyper: You did an expert install and have no users ?
[10:30] <atsugnam> linux-hyper, then add a new user
[10:31] <dmitri> kaot: ok, but i am trying to link my wifi internet connection to vmware (running virtual windows, since i cant gt truecrypt running on ubuntu). How do i connect the machine's internet connection to vmware? through NAT?/ or specific virtual network?
[10:31] <kaot> dmitri: beats me, i've never used vmware
[10:31] <narfmaster> vmware goes through vmnet
[10:32] <narfmaster> it should show up if you do an ifconfig
[10:32] <seventy2> Is there an option somewhere to remove drives from the desktop?
[10:32] <dmitri> narfmaster: ok great! but is it vmnet0,1,2,3 - 9 ?
[10:32] <seventy2> Can't seem to find it anywhere..
[10:32] <narfmaster> dmitri, i think it starts at 1
[10:33] <thomas_> seventy2 good question..
[10:34] <seventy2> I'd settle for just hiding them even..
[10:34] <Netcad>  ./ara do-g016 | grep uid= | grep -v filter | cut -d = -f 2 | cut -d , -f 1 ; ./ara do-g016 | grep macaddress: | cut -d , -f 3 <--- this one gives me results on separate lines. what should I replace ; with in order to get the results on the same line?
[10:34] <xbow> Is there any doc how to make a local mirror of ubuntu repositories but for some platforms (386,amd64) only?
[10:34] <drewfus> what is a good channel for newbies?
[10:35] <narfmaster> seventy2, try "/apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible" in gconf-editor
[10:35] <dmitri> narfmaster: ok it looks like its connecting, but i cant get the internet on it. Do i need to bridge my wireless and ethernet? maybe vmware can only connect to eth0?
[10:35] <narfmaster> dmitri, yeah i'm not sure how vmware uses vmnet :p
[10:36] <seventy2> Aha, thanks.. haven't used Gnome for some time and forgot about that..
[10:36] <seventy2> Thanks narfmaster.
[10:36] <transgress> hey what is the wiki about installing real player?
[10:36] <dmitri> narfmaster.ok ,thanks. and do you know about truecrypt, by chance?
[10:37] <narfmaster> dmitri, sorry never heard of it
[10:38] <Adok> what games come with ubuntu?
[10:39] <narfmaster> Adok, lots of simple games like solitaire
[10:39] <drewfus> just some really simple games as far as i know.
[10:39] <drewfus> im aching to find some more challenging ones
[10:39] <Adok> poo
[10:39] <drewfus> im downloading america's army right now
[10:39] <drewfus> id love to find some more multiplayer fps games for linux
[10:39] <Adok> i have suse right now, and wanna play X-Moto but i cant "configure" my 3d support
[10:40] <linux-hyper> neutrinomass: i didnt a normal install
[10:40] <Adok> anyone think they can help me on that?
[10:40] <linux-hyper> atsugnam: i tryed that no new displays open up
[10:40] <drewfus> wish i could.  the paint is still wet im so new
[10:40] <scheuri> Adok: maybe #suse may help?
[10:40] <thomas_> seventy2 did you figure out which setting it is?
[10:40] <drewfus> i just wish starwars battlefront 2 worked in linux.  id never be tempted to go back to xp if it did
[10:40] <section31> how can i change my hostname permanently..when i do hostname new_hostname_here and then i restart it doesn't stick
[10:41] <Netcad> ./ara do-g016 | grep uid= | grep -v filter | cut -d = -f 2 | cut -d , -f 1 ; ./ara do-g016 | grep macaddress: | cut -d , -f 3 <--- this one gives me results on separate lines. what should I replace ; with in order to get the results on the same line?
[10:41] <tdn> Which one should I use: totem-gstreamer og totem-xine? Which one is best?
[10:44] <thomas_> so anyone know what would cause the updater to not be able to connect to repositories, but I can ping them fine
[10:44] <Ash-Fox> proxy.
[10:44] <thomas_> proxies disabled where I could find them
[10:44] <Ash-Fox> possibly the webserver/ftp are down on the mirrors
[10:45] <tdn> thomas_, try telnet repository-server 80.
[10:45] <narfmaster> could be they're changing the DNS/IPs again
[10:45] <Ash-Fox> Are you able to access them via your webbrowser?
[10:45] <thomas_> they will ping though
[10:45] <thomas_> ye
[10:45] <thomas_> yes
[10:45] <Ash-Fox> I have no idea what's wrong
[10:47] <thomas_> router log shows: src:192.168.0.4 dst: 82.211.81.151 connection terminated 0 bytes transferred
[10:48] <kuzmaster> hello all
[10:48] <kuzmaster> is it normal for my apt to have super cow powers?
[10:48] <narfmaster> apt-get
[10:48] <kuzmaster> same-dif
[10:48] <Sly> how come i cant talk on skype and talk on listen to music streaming through firefox?
[10:49] <ba> because skype for linux sucks
[10:49] <Sly> :\
[10:49] <neutrinomass> I hit ctrl+s in a terminal and scroll lock went on. It won't turn off with the scroll lock key or with ctrl+s and I can't use the terminal (nothing shows on screen). Any ideas ?
[10:49] <narfmaster> Sly, try streaming through xmms
[10:50] <Sly> k
[10:50] <Sly> so paste the stream for the radio in xmms location
[10:50] <Sly> thingy
[10:50] <J4t> neutrinomass: ctrl-s = flow stop
[10:50] <kuzmaster> well, is it normal for my apt-get to have super cow powers?
[10:50] <J4t> neutrinomass: try ctrl-q to continue
[10:51] <neutrinomass> J4t : Neat, thanks a lot.
[10:51] <J4t> kuzmaster: "apt-get moo"
[10:51] <kuzmaster> ok
[10:51] <thomas_> tdn: hm trying telnet, shows it connected
[10:51] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me which is the best Linux distribution?
[10:51] <kuzmaster> wow
[10:51] <narfmaster> hehe
[10:51] <kuzmaster> cows have taken over apt-get
[10:51] <livingdaylight> i heard Ubuntu is crap now, is it true?
[10:52] <neutrinomass> livingdaylight : There is not a single best distro. Depends on your needs. If you're asking the question though, you probably want Ubuntu :)
[10:52] <thomas_> lol
[10:52] <kuzmaster> i love ubuntu
[10:52] <narfmaster> actually, it depends on the purpose
[10:52] <livingdaylight> i heard Kanotix is the best Linux distribution, does anyone know if it is true?
[10:52] <tdn> thomas_, ok. Then the webserver on the repository is up... What error does apt-get give you on apt-get update?
[10:52] <seventy2> It is pretty leet.
[10:52] <cwillu> livingdaylight: the question has no meaning
[10:52] <kuzmaster> im gonna try fedora when it finishes downloading
[10:52] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: no such thing as allaround best.
[10:53] <cwillu> livingdaylight: dell makes the best computers, dominos the best pizza, and kanotix the best live cd :p
[10:53] <livingdaylight> why is there not an all round best
[10:53] <brutopia> knoppix is best general-purpose linux livecd in my opinion
[10:53] <seventy2> livingdaylight: Yes, it's just the best one, simple as that.  The other flavours exist just to make the best one look better.
[10:53] <cwillu> now, ask me what you want to do, and I can suggest something :)
[10:53] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: Because different people use linux differently
[10:53] <thomas_> tdn: it will either say err www.ubunt.... connection failed, or Ign www.ubuntu...
[10:53] <livingdaylight> huh, use linux differently?
[10:53] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: Are you trolling?
[10:53] <livingdaylight> yes
[10:53] <cwillu> now, I guess we'll take the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, eh?  :p
[10:53] <kuzmaster> like, if you use multimedia heaps, or want to use linux for a tv, then ubuntu isnt the best option
[10:54] <kuzmaster> somthing like mythTV would be want you would want
[10:54] <cwillu> ck patched kernel is nice on ubuntu though
[10:54] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: you know, some use it on a laptop, some on a desktop, some as a game server, some for mailserver, some want a skinny firewall
[10:54] <livingdaylight> no, i want to know what is the best. Seems like they all do the same thing except some do it esier
[10:54] <tdn> thomas_, hmm... Strange. I don't really have any idea.
[10:54] <livingdaylight> i am a home desktop user
[10:54] <seventy2> Use XP then.
[10:54] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: Try them all out, then :)
[10:54] <thomas_> k, its very odd
[10:54] <thomas_> I just had 5.10 installed and it would run fine on that
[10:55] <linux-hyper> ive gotten into the alt + ctrl + f1 terminal ... its asking for a login ... yet root is disabled and there are not user accounts how can i login to adduser? : guys is it possible to install a user ? or must i reinstall ??
[10:55] <kuzmaster> livingdaylight, try ubuntu (and kubuntu), fedora and suse
[10:55] <cwillu> livingdaylight: that's part of it;  they can all run the same software, with various degrees of difficulties in setting up various types and quanities of setups
[10:55] <thomas_> thanks though
[10:55] <cwillu> linux-hyper: boot into single user mode
[10:55] <livingdaylight> they all do the same thing, but some are more stable and need less tinkering with, thi smakes the best distributio9n in my opinion. Which one delivers this? Kanotix or Ubun tu?
[10:55] <linux-hyper> how do i do that ?
[10:55] <linux-hyper> use the cd?
[10:55] <Lynoure> What is difficult depends on the user too, e.g. for me editing /etc/fstab manually is easier than using GUI for it.
[10:55] <kuzmaster> the main thing that i like about suse is the rpm's you can install them by double clicking
[10:55] <neutrinomass> linux-hyper : Boot from the rescue option in the grub menu.
[10:55] <linux-hyper> ive nly got ubuntu normal and safe mode and windows xp in my grub menu
[10:55] <cwillu> linux-hyper: escape when booting (there's a three second window or so)
[10:56] <cwillu> safemode
[10:56] <livingdaylight> Why are there hundreds of Linux distibutions. That is stupid! Don't tell me there are hundreds of different uses
[10:56] <neutrinomass> linux-hyper : It will drop you to a root terminal, from which you will have to add the user ...
[10:56] <cwillu> livingdaylight: um, well, um, yes, there are
[10:56] <seventy2> There are an infinite number of uses.
[10:56] <linux-hyper> neutrinomass ahh no it doesnt
[10:56] <livingdaylight> cwillu: stop it!
[10:56] <linux-hyper> it brings up a select a partiton to run a shell off
[10:56] <linux-hyper> so i choose hda2
[10:56] <linux-hyper> and then there is no adduser or passwd
[10:57] <narfmaster> livingdaylight, Linux is free so of course there are lots of variations
[10:57] <linux-hyper> its like a basic sh shell
[10:57] <livingdaylight> this is the problem iwth Linux. Just make one that works plese!
[10:57] <neutrinomass> linux-hyper : That's probably busybox....
[10:57] <livingdaylight> ok two
[10:57] <livingdaylight> ok 3
[10:57] <cwillu> livingdaylight: a distro is like a particular install of windows (i.e., with the software people like, utilities, etc), including such things as citrix, server, terminal server, ad, nt4 domains...
[10:57] <livingdaylight> or something, but not hundreds!
[10:57] <linux-hyper> neutrinomass no its not its the resuce mode.
[10:57] <Sly> narfmaster,
[10:57] <narfmaster> how do you stop people from making them?
[10:57] <Sly> narfmaster,  http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3315/screenshot9ab.png
[10:57] <neutrinomass> linux-hyper : Are you sure? No grub's rescue mode, the linux rescue option ...
[10:57] <Sly> i cant seem to stream that radio station through xmms
[10:57] <neutrinomass> linux-hyper : Is this 6.06 ?
[10:57] <seventy2> Admittedly it might better if some of the distros just collaborated.
[10:58] <cwillu> livingdaylight: there's really only a dozen really popular ones,
[10:58] <seventy2> But you can't force people to work together.
[10:58] <linux-hyper> hmm i dont htink there is an entry for that. ill just reboot now and chekc the grub list brb.
[10:58] <zcat[1] > livingdaylight: there aren't hundreds. There are only as many distros as you feel comfortable with. For all practical purposes the ones you don't feel like knowing about simply don't exist.
[10:58] <linux-hyper> neutrinomass yes 6.06 alternate.iso
[10:58] <narfmaster> Sly, you probably need the right xmms plugin
[10:58] <Ash-Fox> You know, some distros are just better at some things than others in my opinion.
[10:58] <seventy2> Personally I only consider half a dozen or so.. slack, ubuntu (regardless of which sub-distro you use), deb, R.H,..
[10:58] <neutrinomass> linux-hyper : I'm quite sure there is such an entry. If there isn't one though, you'll have to pass 'single' as an argument to the kernel ...
[10:58] <Sly> narfmaster, how do i get that bro :)
[10:58] <livingdaylight> zcat[1] : how do i know i don't want them until i try?
[10:59] <narfmaster> Sly, just search for "xmms" in Synaptic
[10:59] <Sly> l
[10:59] <neutrinomass> linux-hyper : Offhand I don't remember how to do it (more familiar with lilo than with grub), but you'll figure it out ...
[10:59] <cwillu> livingdaylight: how do you know you don't want a justintech stereo in your car?
[10:59] <linux-hyper> recovery mode. attempting it now
[10:59] <linux-hyper> brbv
[10:59] <neutrinomass> linux-hyper : Ok, good luck!
[11:00] <livingdaylight> cwillu: you are getting clever now, stop it
[11:00] <cwillu> I know;  I'm a clever guy :p
[11:00] <livingdaylight>  :o
[11:00] <zcat[1] > what car?
[11:00] <livingdaylight> zcat[1] : i just get the car that is cheap. I can't afford the car i want, nor does it even exist yet
[11:01] <Sly> narfmaster,  which xmms plugin is it?
[11:01] <linux-hyper> neutrinomass sorry for dissagreeing you were correct thanks alot sir much appreciated :)
[11:01] <narfmaster> Sly, what type of file are you trying to stream?
[11:01] <livingdaylight> Look: Ubuntu, Mepis, Kanotix - all Debian sid. but they are not all the same. They do the same thing, but some do it easier and out of the box than others
[11:02] <livingdaylight> The thing i love most about Ubuntu is the name
[11:02] <Sly> http://64.236.34.67:80/stream/1071
[11:02] <Sly> its for winamp
[11:02] <zcat[1] > if all cars were the same price (free), would you complain that there were too many different models and options to choose from?
[11:02] <Sly> .pls or w/e
[11:02] <livingdaylight> but i don't like the lack of hardware recognition and automatix
[11:02] <neutrinomass> linux-hyper : lol, you don't have to be sorry :P Glad it worked out!
[11:02] <linux-hyper> another issue is i have a ms natural ergonmic keyboard(due to its split layout and price :P) the F1 and so forth keys dont work. in xp i had to install some drivers. any chance of getting this resolved with ubuntu ?
[11:02] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: You don't need to use automatix
[11:02] <linux-hyper> :))
[11:03] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: use EusyUbuntu or don't use either.
[11:03] <livingdaylight> Lynoure: i do if i want propiretory codecs
[11:03] <cwillu> livingdaylight: no, you really don't
[11:03] <dpn> Is there a reason some wmvs will play in VLC while other won't?
[11:03] <narfmaster> Sly, strange it should work fine
[11:03] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: well, Ubuntu aims to be open source, and cannot be even without cost if they include some of those codecs
[11:03] <cwillu> dpn, different codecs
[11:03] <dpn> An updated codec I need?
[11:03] <livingdaylight> Lynoure: Kanotix has easier repositories. You add one then apt-get update and they are there, presto and basta
[11:03] <zcat[1] > weird; my MS keyboard everything worked, even the special buttons like 'web browser' and 'email' and 'power'
[11:04] <dpn> Where would I get both
[11:04] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: If that bothers you, use something else
[11:04] <linux-hyper> omg
[11:04] <neutrinomass> linux-hyper :Not sure exactly how it can be done, but it should be filed as a bug ( http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu)
[11:04] <livingdaylight> Lynoure: then why do Kanotix make it easier?
[11:04] <linux-hyper> will do thanks
[11:04] <linux-hyper> another issue
[11:04] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: I'm not a Kanotix user and this is not a Kanotix channel
[11:04] <linux-hyper> how do i add hyperstream 's account password to sudo ?
[11:04] <cwillu> livingdaylight: you can use the same repositories, but in any case, pretty much all the codecs you need are available in universe and multiverse (i.e., enable a couple repositories)
[11:04] <livingdaylight> In Kanotix repositories are easier than in uBUNTU. Add one line and update and it s done. not all this automatix and hardubuntu stuff
[11:05] <cwillu> livingdaylight: it's one line in ubuntu too
[11:05] <cwillu> !automatix
[11:05] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[11:05] <zcat[1] > livingdaylight: in ubuntu you add two (universe and multiverse) and you can apt-get all that stuff..
[11:05] <cwillu> hmm, they used to have a stronger warning on that one...
[11:05] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: What is your goal with talking about the greatness of Kanotix here?
[11:06] <zcat[1] > 'add one line' ?? in ubuntu it's just a checkbox..
[11:06] <cwillu> zcat[1] : depends where you change it from
[11:06] <livingdaylight> zcat[1] : yea. but you have to do them all individually. In kanotix you add one repository and update and they are installed All of them
[11:06] <zcat[1] > well, from synaptic anyhow
[11:06] <Lynoure> !troll
[11:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about troll
[11:06] <livingdaylight> Lynoure: i want ubuntu to get better
[11:07] <cwillu> iirc, win32codecs is the only package you need to install
[11:07] <cwillu> !win32codecs
[11:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about win32codecs
[11:07] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: this is not the devel channel...
[11:07] <zcat[1] > livingdaylight: sorry, when you say 'they' you mean all the codecs? like apt-get install w32codec ?
[11:07] <kuzmaster> i just got an sources.list of source-o-matic, and after i ran "sudo apt-get update"  it came up with errors and the signitures couldnt be verified or somthing
[11:07] <rob> livingdaylight, please take it to -offtopic
[11:07] <kuzmaster> how can i resolve this?
[11:07] <cwillu> !codecs > livingdaylight
[11:07] <livingdaylight> arrgh...ok.... :|  sorry rob
[11:07] <rob> thanks :)
[11:08] <linux-hyper> hmm
[11:08] <livingdaylight> i'm just frustrated
[11:08] <livingdaylight> i just want my os to completely work and not to think of other distributions and get on with using it, rather than fixing it
[11:08] <Sly> i dont get why i cant stream a .pls file (radio station) while im on skype
[11:08] <rob> Seveas repo has things like w32codecs I think, so check that out
[11:09] <kuzmaster> heres my problematic output of apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17677
[11:09] <linux-hyper> ive installed ubuntu 6.06 with no users , had to boot into recovery(single user mode) and adduser 'hyperstream' but im not sure what the sudo password is now . how can i set a sudo password or make it reconize the account 'hyperstream' 's pass as the sudo pass?
[11:09] <kuzmaster> if anyone can help me with that, i will be very happy
[11:09] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: then improve it! Volunteer your time for the project. It's the most efficient way, really.
[11:09] <zcat[1] > livingdaylight: if you prefer how kanotix does things, use kanotix... makes no difference to us!
[11:10] <rob> livingdaylight, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:10] <neutrinomass> linux-hyper : Did you do an expert install? If yes, you will have to setup sudo yourself. Otherwise you should simply add that user to the 'admin' group ...
[11:10] <kuzmaster> can anyone help me?
[11:10] <thomas_> kuzmaster, i think i saw some info somewhere
[11:10] <livingdaylight> thx, rob
[11:10] <rob> np
[11:10] <kuzmaster> thomas_, ok, where?
[11:11] <livingdaylight> Lynoure: i wish i could volunteer my time. Even if i could i'm not a computer geek. but that doesn't mean i still don't want the improvements
[11:11] <drewfus> can someone help me with my usb drive.  ubuntu is saying it only has 4 megs of space, and i know it is completely empty and is a 128 meg drive
[11:11] <neutrinomass> livingdaylight : (this is really for -offtopic) File bugs then :)
[11:11] <thomas_> kuz: one minute
[11:12] <thomas_> btw how do i send private chat
[11:12] <livingdaylight> zcat[1] : yea, maybe you are right :(  but i got attached to Ubuntu and i don't like the name Kanotix. What kind of friggin name is that. But if it Kan do everything i need then maybe you are right
[11:12] <thomas_> im using the irc program in terminal
[11:12] <livingdaylight> zcat[1] : i would feel sad about leaving ubuntu after all this time
[11:12] <linux-hyper> neutrinomass i just did a normal install
[11:13] <kuzmaster> thomas_, dont no
[11:13] <linux-hyper> ill had to add it myself ... how do i go about this? sudo is already setup
[11:13] <linux-hyper> had == have*
[11:13] <thomas_> k
[11:14] <neutrinomass> linux-hyper: You can manually edit /etc/groups and add it to the line with 'admin'....
[11:14] <cps> drewfus: try selecting "Show Hidden files" from the view menu and see if there are any hidden files or folders
[11:14] <linux-hyper> oo doh sorry for not thinking
[11:14] <linux-hyper> brb
[11:14] <dpn>   403 Forbidden
[11:14] <cwillu> kuzmaster: still there?
[11:14] <dpn> W: Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/dapper-seveas/extras/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb  403 Forbidden
[11:14] <dpn> whys that saying forbidden? =/
[11:14] <cwillu> kuzmaster:  what's the output of sudo apt-get update ?
[11:14] <Seveas> !tell dpn about seveas
[11:15] <kuzmaster> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17677
[11:15] <rob> dpn, try a better mirror (listed on that page), that one is slow
[11:15] <dpn> k thanks
[11:15] <zcat[1] > speaking of annoying features.. who's responsible for .Trash folders on USB drives ?!!
[11:15] <cwillu> nvm, I'm dumb
[11:15] <Seveas> rob, it's even disabled for anyone that's not me ;)
[11:15] <thomas_> kuz say something here about gpg keys: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185758
[11:15] <rob> Seveas, ah ok.. how come?
[11:15] <kuzmaster> zcat[1] , i belive that would be windows xp
[11:16] <kuzmaster> ok, thanx
[11:16] <zcat[1] > err no....
[11:16] <Seveas> rob, because it's on my home broadband connection and the mirrors aren't 
[11:16] <kuzmaster> zcat[1] , i only use my drive on macs, and wen i use it on xp, its there wen i go back to a mac
[11:16] <rob> oh, so how come just that one package? or do you mean the whole repo?
[11:17] <thomas_> kuz: but I would probably just edit out that link from your source.list
[11:17] <zcat[1] > damn annoying feature in Gnome. After you delete stuff from your flash drive you have to remember to empty the trash before it's really gone.
[11:17] <Seveas> rob, whole pool/
[11:17] <cps> zcat[1] : you can turn on a "Delete" command which bypasses the trash
[11:18] <rob> Seveas, to heavy on your upload quota?
[11:18] <cps> zcat[1] : it's in the File Manager Preferences
[11:18] <zcat[1] > cps: ahh, cool. That ought to be the default for things like flash drives and mp3 players!
[11:18] <Seveas> rob, too heavy on my bandwidth, I need a few bits for myself  And the mirrors are much faster anyway
[11:18] <rob> heh
[11:19] <zcat[1] > can I define that per device or is it a global setting?
[11:19] <rob> is w32codecs on the mirrors?
[11:19] <cps> zcat[1] : perhaps, I remember reading discussions about it before, but I suppose it would be confusing
[11:19] <cps> zcat[1] : it's global
[11:19] <Seveas> rob, of course 
[11:19] <cps> zcat[1] : it just adds a menu item "Delete"
[11:19] <rob> cool
[11:19] <rob> :)
[11:19] <Seveas> I have 5 complete mirrors and one with just freenx
[11:19] <cps> zcat[1] : in addition to "Move to trash"
[11:19] <ba> mmm i need a new header for my webpage
[11:20] <zcat[1] > It's confusing when my camera's still full after I've 'removed' all the photos from it.
[11:20] <kuzmaster>  thomas_, is there anything usefull on that repos?
[11:20] <rob> heh yeah, I just added the one for freenx (was considering packaing it myself for myself, but you saved me the work, so thanks :) )
[11:20] <thomas_> I have no idea, its a mirror so probably not?
[11:20] <kuzmaster> i think its Seveas Packages (Packages), that that link is for?
[11:20] <dpn> =/ w32codecs off youre repo aren't playing these wmv files either
[11:21] <kuzmaster> oh,ok thne
[11:21] <zcat[1] > dpn: if they're DRM files NOTHING in linux will play them :(
[11:21] <dpn> They shouldn't be drm
[11:22] <kuzmaster> !mp3
[11:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:22] <dpn> Some wmvs are working and others just play sound
[11:22] <dpn> No idea why
[11:22] <zcat[1] > what player? not everything uses w32
[11:22] <dpn> VLC
[11:22] <dpn> should I try mplayer
[11:22] <cypher1> dpn: yes i have the same problem
[11:22] <zcat[1] > ahh.. that's one that doesn't afaik..
[11:22] <kuzmaster> vlc is my fav
[11:22] <zcat[1] > try mplayer, yeah
[11:23] <zcat[1] > vlc uses gstreamer iirc.. there's different codecs for that.
[11:24] <zcat[1] > the whole codec-player situation is still a bit of a mess, needs to be sorted out!
[11:24] <Sub> zcat[1] , vlc uses the w32codecs and its own
[11:24] <selinium> rob: frennx is in the seveas repositories, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:24] <zcat[1] > Sub: weird. Why does vlc fail to play some stuff that mplayer can handle?
[11:24] <Sub> zcat[1] , the only player that uses gstreamer is totem, and if you use totem-xine it uses the xine codecs, which mplayer/vlc/xine all use
[11:24] <rob> selinium, yes I know thats where I got it from, except I can't find the execuitable for it
[11:25] <kuzmaster> is it safe to use adept of ubuntu (gnome)?
[11:25] <Ash-Fox> zcat[1] , because vlc uses only opensource libraries for playing content.
[11:25] <selinium> rob: which part?
[11:25] <Sub> zcat[1] , it uses its own codecs
[11:25] <zcat[1] > w32 is open source?!! huh?
[11:25] <Ash-Fox> zcat[1] , mplayer uses a mix of proprietory libraries, codecs.
[11:25] <Sub> zcat[1] , mplayer is probably the most compatible linux player.
[11:25] <Ash-Fox> zcat[1] , there is no format called 'w32' to my knowledge.
[11:25] <Sub> with all the codecs.
[11:26] <rob> server or client
[11:26] <Sub> Ash-Fox, he means the "w32codecs" pacakge
[11:26] <Ash-Fox> yeah, mplayer uses w32codecs, vlc doesn't.
[11:26] <selinium> rob: client =    /usr/NX/bin/nxclient &        and  server =    nxserver
[11:26] <Ash-Fox> (xine uses it too :)
[11:26] <rob> eww.. non standard path
[11:26] <je1> 
[11:27] <je1> SCIM
[11:27] <zcat[1] > sub: you said vlc uses w32codecs and it's own.. then you said vlc only uses opensource libraries. I'm kinda confused now.
[11:27] <selinium> rob: :)
[11:27] <dpn> awsome mplayer works
[11:27] <dpn> get rid of vlc I guess
[11:27] <davidperezchapar> ola!
[11:28] <davidperezchapar> wenas a todos!
[11:28] <juan> !sensors
[11:28] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[11:28] <davidperezchapar> hello!!
[11:28] <kuzmaster> is it safe to use adept of ubuntu (gnome)
[11:29] <davidperezchapar> in spaninsH??
[11:29] <dpn> What this error mean, "too many packets in buffer"
[11:29] <dpn> Sound is wacky
[11:29] <__doc__> hi, I'm about to get a wireless lan adapter for my pc, what company/card/stick can you recommend (for which are there drivers for ubuntu)?
[11:30] <hyperstream> !nforce
[11:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about nforce
[11:30] <zcat[1] > __doc__: rt2400 chipset is what my card uses, works like a dream.
[11:30] <Micksa> that's more like it
[11:30] <Micksa> okay, quick question (I hope)
[11:30] <hyperstream> !nvidia
[11:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:30] <Micksa> how do you "play" a DVD ISO image?
[11:30] <zcat[1] > !loopback
[11:30] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[11:30] <monomaniacpat> what is esd? It stops games playing sound in ubuntu!
[11:31] <Micksa> thanks. but then how do you get gzine or ogle or whatever to look in the right place?
[11:31] <__doc__> how about us robotics stuff for ubuntu?
[11:31] <kuzmaster> __doc__, probobly a RaLink chipset or a Antheros chip set. Different models and brands use different chipsets
[11:31] <monomaniacpat> !esd
[11:31] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[11:31] <kuzmaster> !tell __doc__ about wifi
[11:31] <monomaniacpat> !tell monomaniacpat about alsa
[11:32] <zcat[1] > Micksa: you probably need libdvdcss2 and whatever other dvd stuff is usual, and then play the VOB's directly using mplayer...
[11:32] <juan> how do i test the sensor output using the lm-sensors utility "sensors".
[11:32] <Micksa> I can play real dvds
[11:32] <zcat[1] > there may be a nicer way of doing it. I just rip my dvd's straight to avi's
[11:33] <Micksa> I already know how to use mplayer to view individual titles (mplayer -dvd-device /path/to/iso dvd://1)
[11:33] <Micksa> but I need to see the DVD menu
[11:33] <zcat[1] > mplayer /mountpoint/VIDEO_TS/mumble.VOB
[11:33] <hyperstream> how can i install my sound drivers:  0000:00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2) ? do i need to get the drivers from nvidia's website?
[11:33] <Micksa> ... or does mplayer do DVD menu stuff and I don't know?
[11:33] <monomaniacpat> why would esd stop sound at every startup?
[11:33] <hyperstream> back shortly people rebooting
[11:34] <Shadox> hi guys
[11:34] <Shadox> i was wondering if one of you could help me out with a little problem
[11:34] <neutrinomass> In a server install, after installing ratpoison, xserver-xorg and x-window-system-core, 'startx' will supposedly work, right ?
[11:34] <kuzmaster> Shadox, whats you problem?
[11:34] <zcat[1] > Micksa: didn't know you could play them like that :) Mplayer doesn't do menus afaik, other players do. I don't know that much about playing DVD's though...
[11:35] <Micksa> any other takers?
[11:35] <Sly> how come i cant play a mp3 and talk on skype @ the same time?
[11:35] <Micksa> ooh, I think I have it
[11:35] <Shadox> i have a dualboot notebook, a few days ago i formatted my windows partion, now it seems that the windows has overwritten the grub and i can't no longer boot in ubuntu :(
[11:35] <zcat[1] > Sly: It's a feature. It's rude to listen to music while you're on the phone!
[11:35] <kuzmaster> Sly, because skype for linux dosnt work very well
[11:36] <kuzmaster> !grub
[11:36] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:36] <zcat[1] > Sly: seriously; because skype for linux doesn't work well and hogs the soundcard instead of sharing it through esd
[11:36] <Shadox> kuzmaster: thnQ i'll have a look
[11:36] <hyperstream> hmm i gotta get nvidia's nforce drivers
[11:37] <__doc__> So from your expirience what works better, the usr-805421 (usb stick) or the usr-805417 (pci card)?
[11:37] <deFrysk> install nvidia-glx
[11:37] <kuzmaster> can someone please tell me if it is normal for the software updater to be stuck on "setting up pmount" for a long time? PLEASE!!!!!!!
[11:37] <deFrysk> with older cards install nvidia-glx-legacy
[11:37] <__doc__> prism-2 seems to be the appropriate driver for usr-805421
[11:37] <zcat[1] > kuzmaster: is there still drive activity?
[11:37] <zcat[1] > does top show it doing anything?
[11:37] <narfmaster> kuzmaster, how long exactly?
[11:38] <dabaR> kuzmaster: your comp will tell you soon enough.
[11:38] <dpn> I love comcasts new upgrade, I'm downloading at 2100k/sec =p
[11:38] <dabaR> dpn: go pay your bills
[11:38] <zcat[1] > one of the updates takes forever rebuilding indexes or something. Can't even remember what it was..
[11:38] <kuzmaster> __doc__, i use a dlink wireless card (model no. DWL-g510) and that works fine in kubuntu, but it dosnt want to work for me in ubuntu
[11:38] <narfmaster> dpn, that is just bragging :/
[11:38] <dpn> I am actually late on comcast :o
[11:39] <dpn> My service is for 8mb/down, but they've added some upgrade ontop of that lately
[11:39] <kuzmaster> dpn, thats luckly, i can only download at  50kbs
[11:39] <dpn> fios speeds
[11:39] <dpn> I love competition
[11:39] <kuzmaster> the fastest i can get is a 1.5 connection
[11:40] <neutrinomass> I can't get X to start on legacy hardware. 'startx' will just give me a blank screen ...I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but to no avail .... maybe it's something I haven't installed ?
[11:40] <kuzmaster> is normal for the software updater to be stuck on "setting up pmount" for a long time?
[11:40] <kuzmaster> is normal for the software updater to be stuck on "setting up pmount" for a long time?
[11:40] <zcat[1] > damn you all! 256k down, 128k up.. and it's capped at 40gb as well.
[11:40] <dpn> ouch thats rough zcat
[11:40] <deFrysk> zcat[1] , that is very poor
[11:40] <narfmaster> zcat[1] , wow that's is sad
[11:41] <kuzmaster> im 512 up 256 down
[11:41] <ESPOiG> exit
[11:41] <neutrinomass> kuzmaster: No.
[11:41] <deFrysk> zcat[1] , u must be in misery
[11:41] <dpn> I pay for 8mb/1mb, but its more around 16mb/1down ;)
[11:41] <zcat[1] > It's painful!
[11:41] <deFrysk> zcat[1] , i feel your pain
[11:41] <kuzmaster> neutrinomass, ok, thanx, so should i just exit it and try again?
[11:41] <zcat[1] > still beats dialup though :)
[11:41] <dabaR> kuzmaster: is it the atheros chipset one, or the other one?
[11:41] <neutrinomass> kuzmaster: Likely to work. If it doesn't, file a bug report against pmount ...
[11:42] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : barely
[11:42] <kuzmaster> mine is a RaLink chipset
[11:42] <deFrysk> dial up..... good old days.....
[11:42] <deFrysk> not so good tho
[11:43] <dabaR> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132980 kuzmaster have you read?
[11:43] <neutrinomass> Has support for legacy hardware been dropped from X ?
[11:45] <VanilleBert> hi all. I want to format an usb-stick... how do I do that in ubuntu? nautilus, don't show me the option...
[11:45] <neutrinomass> VanilleBert System->Administration->Disks doesn't show the usb stick ?
[11:45] <juan> please can some1 explain to me how to follow the instructions i get in !sensors im fine untill it says about utilities
[11:45] <zcat[1] > I'd probably have used mkdosfs .. never thought about using the gui tools :)
[11:46] <Ng> juan: what;s the problem?
[11:46] <VanilleBert> give me a moment... i have to translate that into the german ubuntu ^^
[11:46] <narfmaster> VanilleBert, i'd use gparted
[11:46] <juan> it says Now test the sensor output using the lm-sensors utility "sensors".
[11:46] <juan> when i run lm-sensors all i can do is start it i cant get the output it expects
[11:47] <seraphim> hi there. i got a problem with nis. everything seems to be ok, ypwhich gives me the right server, ypcat shows a lot of maps. the users seem to be there. but when i try to log in a nis-user, the login fails.
[11:47] <Ng> juan: that means open a terminal and run "sensors"
[11:47] <juan> so simple
[11:47] <juan> thanks
[11:48] <Sub> omg work is great
[11:48] <Sub> they fucked the accounts up
[11:48] <zcat[1] > !language
[11:48] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:49] <Sub> oh wrong channel :S
[11:49] <VanilleBert> neutrinomass, didn't find it at system->admin but it's mounted(shows nautilus). i will try gparted
[11:49] <Ash-Fox> family friendly - haha, should see most families out there.
[11:50] <dabaR> still\
[11:50] <neutrinomass> VanilleBert: I was talking about system->administration->disks. It will open up a program that lets you format drives and floppies, not sure about usb disks though. You have to unmount it to format it ....
[11:51] <zcat[1] > neutrinomass: yes usb disks.. I just formatted my camera to check :)
[11:51] <neutrinomass> Has support for legacy video cards been dropped form xserver-xorg ? I just get a blank screen :(
[11:52] <narfmaster> neutrinomass, what driver is the xorg.conf say you're using?
[11:52] <zcat[1] > neutrinomass: legacy what? I know my nvidia broke after breezy, nvidia-glx got split off into nvidia-legacy-glx ...
[11:53] <Silver-SuBZ3R0> salut tout le monde :)
[11:53] <zcat[1] > bonjour Silver-SuBZ3R0
[11:53] <neutrinomass> narfmaster : I tried S3 and vga. My card is a 'VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc 86c968 [Vision 968 VRAM]  rev 0 (a 10 years old 4MB video card ... )
[11:54] <narfmaster> neutrinomass, did you try vesa?
[11:54] <zcat[1] > will a card that old even do vesa? :)
[11:54] <narfmaster> S3 isn't that old
[11:54] <VanilleBert> AHHHHH!  i found it...   in german ubuntu it is labeled under Festplatte(harddrive).  on the first look there was no difference between my main harddrive but the space was just 500 MB ^^ must be the stick
[11:54] <neutrinomass> narfmaster : Ooops, that escaped me :(
[11:54] <VanilleBert> thx for help
[11:54] <neutrinomass> S3 made my screen switch to power saving mode, vga showed a corrupt screen
[11:55] <Ash-Fox> vesa?
[11:55] <narfmaster> S3 is only about what? 10 years or so old
[11:55] <Ash-Fox> S3 works perfectly fine with my S3 video cards here.
[11:55] <thomas_> ok the weirdest thing, I solved the unable to connect problem by unchecking keyword blocking in my router
[11:56] <thomas_> there was another post mentioning it, but that is just odd
[11:56] <narfmaster> keyword blocking?
[11:56] <thomas_> say if you want to block all sites that include "porn"
[11:56] <narfmaster> i'm more likely to set myself up as DMZ
[11:56] <gsuveg> [17179575.084000]  hdc: ATAPI 63X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33)
[11:56] <gsuveg> re
[11:56] <gsuveg> :-( /dev/hdc: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0
[11:56] <thomas_> yeah I would use dmz but dont know a good firewall, dont want to bother
[11:57] <gsuveg> im get same error with cdr, cdrw, dvd-r, dvdrw with sudo and w/o sudo too
[11:57] <thomas_> I just find it incredibly odd, 5.10 works with it on, 6.06 doesnt
[11:57] <neutrinomass> Yay, vesa worked !
[11:57] <neutrinomass> Thanks guys...
[11:57] <narfmaster> gsuveg, you have a blank disc in the drive?
[11:58] <gsuveg> yes :)
[11:58] <gsuveg> im test it with few discs
[11:58] <njan> thomas_ yeah I would use dmz but dont know a good firewall, dont want to bother <= IPCop, M0n0wall.
[11:58] <njan> thomas_, there are two, and they're both Free.
[11:58] <thomas_> thanks, will try those out
[11:58] <hyperstream> how long does capplets-data take to setup ?? ( did a update its been 10 minutes?
[11:58] <data-pata> anyone else having problems with network manager not recognizing your wlan card?
[11:58] <narfmaster> hyperstream, a LONG time
[11:58] <gsuveg> njan: mono is fresh ? or 1.6.x too?
[11:59] <hyperstream> about a hour ?
[11:59] <zcat[1] > I gave up trying to filter my kids.. dans guardian blocked too many legit sites!
[11:59] <narfmaster> hyperstream, give it another 10 to 20 minutes
[11:59] <hyperstream> woah there it goes thanks
[11:59] <narfmaster> heh
[11:59] <hyperstream> what is capplets -data?
[11:59] <thomas_> yeah zcat i have nothing blocked, it was just enabled by default :/
[11:59] <shen> My ibook doesn't recognise my usb mouse on boot, I have to unplug and plug it back in for it to work
[12:00] <zcat[1] > weird default...
[12:00] <shen> is the person who was helping me before still online? I've done a reboot with the mouse unplugged to try and see the differences in dmesg
[12:00] <dpn> Whats the best newsgroup program to use?
[12:00] <dpn> Anything similar to grabit?
[12:00] <gsuveg> narfmaster: im testet with growisofs, k3b, and gnome too :)
[12:01] <zcat[1] > ubh for downloading mass binaries, thunderbird for reading text
[12:01] <gsuveg> narfmaster: but everbody use cdrecord
[12:01] <narfmaster> gsuveg, i use k3b
[12:01] <zcat[1] > .. is what I use anyhow.. not sure what's 'best' :)
[12:01] <narfmaster> dpn, pan is nice
[12:01] <Ash-Fox> dpn, I use thunderbird, but then again, I use it for messages no binaries.
[12:02] <hyperstream> brb
[12:02] <dpn> Cool, thanks for the tips
[12:02] <narfmaster> i hope the new version of pan gets stable soon :/
[12:02] <Sly> does anyone know if there's a third party ventrilo out or something?
[12:02] <gsuveg> narfmaster: cdrecord found:         1,0,0   100) 'MATSHITA' 'UJ-831D         ' '1.00' Removable CD-ROM
[12:03] <v_l7> hello
[12:03] <narfmaster> gsuveg, have you tried DVD-RW?
[12:04] <gsuveg> yes
[12:04] <gsuveg> narfmaster: all media ;)
[12:04] <v_l7> anybody know how to install wolfenstein enemy territory
[12:04] <gsuveg> v_l7: start the bin with sh
[12:05] <narfmaster> gsuveg, you using 64-bit?
[12:05] <VanilleBert> now i have no rights to write to the usb-drive... it says i'm not the owner... how do i change that? (damn windows made me helpless)
[12:05] <dpn> lol, how do I run ubh
[12:05] <gsuveg> narfmaster: no, intel centrino
[12:05] <data-pata> am i the only one who's having problems with network manager? it just stopped recognizing my wlan card for no apparent reason
[12:05] <narfmaster> gsuveg, that is strange it really should work
[12:06] <gsuveg> narfmaster: yes. on fedora im used it
[12:06] <gsuveg> narfmaster: but on dapper not yet
[12:07] <Dromen> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[12:07] <Dromen> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[12:07] <Dromen> anyone know?
[12:07] <Dromen> because that path doesnt work
[12:07] <dpn> How do you know where something installs.  I just installed UBH through synaptic, but its no where in my menu
[12:08] <dpn> Nm
[12:08] <Kaja> Probably /usr/bin =G
[12:08] <narfmaster> Dromen, check your /lib/modules/2.6.something/ folder
[12:08] <dpn> Found where it lists isntalled files
[12:08] <webben> I'm using Synergy to use my Windozed Thinkpad's keyboard and touchpad on my Ubuntu desktop. One problem, the scroll function on my touchpad has no effect on Ubuntu. Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix that?
[12:08] <Dromen> shall do narfmaster
[12:09] <dpn> Why does some stuff install to use/bin and others usr/share
[12:09] <timfrost> Dromen, install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:10] <Dromen> timfrost: paste that in CLI ?
[12:10] <shadox> kuzmaster, it won't work
[12:10] <shadox> kuzmaster, i'm now on live cd, trying to repair my group but i get several errors :s
[12:10] <hyperstream> [ NVIDIA audio driver for Linux-x86 (1.0-7) ]   --> ERROR: Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel.  Please make sure you have installed the kernel source files
[12:11] <dibblego> is there a character map?
[12:11] <control> !ru
[12:11] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[12:11] <hyperstream> im running  2.6.15-25-386 and synaptic has no results for headers or source files for this kernel ?
[12:11] <control> !ru
[12:11] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[12:11] <narfmaster> hyperstream, look for linux-headers-386
[12:11] <timfrost> Dromen, the command is 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'.  You may also need to install build-essential for the compiler and tools
[12:12] <shadox> someone else who is willing to help me out with my grub problem :(
[12:12] <whadar> hello, I want to backup a DVD of mine (as is). I tried right click > "copy disc" but it shows that the size of the DVD is only 24MB, while it is really 4.2GB!
[12:12] <whadar> what's the problem?
[12:12] <hyperstream> thanks
[12:13] <gsuveg> narfmaster: v
[12:13] <gsuveg> Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface.
[12:13] <gsuveg> Error trying to open /dev/hdc exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second.
[12:13] <timfrost> hyperstream, do the nvidia drivers in restricted not support your card?
[12:13] <narfmaster> whadar, maybe you can copy the files, then burn them to a new disc
[12:14] <hyperstream> tim this is nforce drivers for my sound card
[12:14] <hyperstream> 0000:00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)
[12:14] <hyperstream> 7.1 surround sound.
[12:14] <hyperstream> need to get the driver for the device working firstly then ill use alsa
[12:15] <narfmaster> gsuveg, is there something else trying to use your DVD drive?
[12:15] <whadar> narfmaster: yeah that's the last option...
[12:15] <gsuveg> narfmaster: nautilus maybe
[12:15] <shadox> i lately formatted my windows partion, now the mbr has overwritten the grub, i can't nolonger reboot in ubuntu
[12:15] <whadar> k3b also seems to create 24 mb image out of it...
[12:15] <thomas_> shadox there should be a bootable grub tool around?
[12:16] <gsuveg> cdburner run
[12:16] <timfrost> hyperstream, I see.  Forgot that nvidia do sound as well as video (I don't use the sound system on my machine).  See my advice to Dromen for the packages you need to build from source.
[12:16] <thomas_> ie ultimate boot disk might have it
[12:16] <cps> !grub
[12:16] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:16] <hyperstream> :)
[12:16] <hyperstream> thanks
[12:16] <narfmaster> ultimate boot is nice
[12:16] <avis> i think many of the nivida integrated sound solutions are based on realtek chipset
[12:16] <hyperstream> guys
[12:17] <shadox> i already tried they link ubotu said, if i try that i get several errors
[12:17] <thomas_> damn ubuntu has a LOT of 3d screensavers... meh
[12:18] <cps> shadox: what errors?
[12:18] <frogzoo> thomas_: but there is only rss-glx
[12:19] <avis> i saw the hubble satellite last night on screensaver.  some freaky twists to the dawn of ubuntu wallpaper manipulations.  i'm anixious to see what it will do when i put a geforce 6200 in there.
[12:19] <thomas_> oh
[12:19] <shadox> cps, errors like "invalid device requested"
[12:19] <avis> what is rss-glx ?
[12:19] <cps> shadox: which command gives you that error?
[12:19] <frogzoo> thomas_: in fact, there is only matrixview - all other screensavers are redundant
[12:19] <avis> shadox what are the errors it gives you ?
[12:20] <frogzoo> rss-glx is a package of bling screensavers
[12:20] <thomas_> ah, I was thinking they take up space, probably not then
[12:20] <avis> what is bling ?
[12:20] <thomas_> lol
[12:20] <frogzoo> avis: rss = really slick screensavers
[12:20] <thomas_> www.urbandictionary.com
[12:20] <avis> ok
[12:20] <avis> thank you
[12:20] <avis> going to install
[12:20] <juan> how do i change permisions so i can write to folders i dont own (even tho im the only user on this computer
[12:21] <frogzoo> !permissions > juan
[12:21] <avis> hmm.. already installed.  curious computer.  has a mind of its own...
[12:21] <frogzoo> avis: you need to read the package details -> /usr/share/doc/rss-glx/
[12:21] <avis> ok
[12:21] <shadox> cps, grub> setup (hd0,5)    (i did exactly what they said in the link i received from ubotu)
[12:21] <avis> thank yuo
[12:21] <avis> you
[12:22] <animax> any tips on partitioning to install ubuntu? can only format some space for linux
[12:22] <thomas_> yes animax, it will ask when you install if you want to resize
[12:22] <thomas_> a bare minimum would be about 2.5gb for ubuntu, and 256mb for swap
[12:22] <cps> shadox: what is your hard drives device?
[12:23] <frogzoo> animax: you want at a minimum separate /home & swap partitions - also core ubuntu likes at least 20gig
[12:23] <thomas_> 20 gig :O
[12:23] <animax> i have xp right now on one disk of 80gb, the second of 40 gb is there.
[12:23] <frogzoo> thomas_: I tend to install everything
[12:23] <animax> 40 gb i can at max spare about 20 gb cos the other space has got stuff on it
[12:23] <v_l7> hey i need help installing wolfenstein enemy territory
[12:23] <thomas_> hah no wonder, I try to remove everything I dont need
[12:24] <frogzoo> animax: well decide - do you want all conceivable progs (including games) - or just a bare bones?
[12:24] <Sub> frogzoo, core ubuntu only needs 20GB???
[12:24] <animax> all progs, i earlier had 64bit ububtu but switching to 32bit to make linux (after a while) my main os
[12:24] <Sub> frogzoo, it will fit on 2gb.
[12:24] <thomas_> sub: hes saying with everything installed
[12:24] <frogzoo> Sub: "likes"
[12:24] <Ash-Fox> skin and bones, weakling!
[12:25] <Sub> frogzoo, i have a ubutny partition on laptop with 5gb.
[12:25] <frogzoo> Sub: dude - I already said I like to install everything
[12:25] <thomas_> but you can always resize later if you run out of space
[12:25] <thomas_> it just takes a few minutes
[12:25] <animax> thomas_: with no loss to the other partitions?
[12:25] <avis> i have one large / partition and a /home
[12:25] <Sub> animax, youll probably want 10gb and see how it goes.
[12:25] <narfmaster> v_l7, what's the problem?
[12:26] <thomas_> animax: you will have to take space from the other partition
[12:26] <Ash-Fox> frogzoo, technically, you can't, since some of the stuff is for specific hardware, clashes with other software etc. it really depends on your needs.
[12:26] <thomas_> unless you have free space sitting around
[12:26] <Sub> my root is only about 15gb, 50gb home, and a photo, audio, video partitons at 10 30 and 60gb.
[12:26] <avis> /dev/sda1             80503624   3241072  73173208   5% /
[12:26] <animax> Sub: i cn do that but the thing is they are in fat32 and i cant afford to mess with them cos they have critical stuff
[12:26] <Sub> animax, fat32 is safe to resize
[12:26] <Ash-Fox> Heck, install the proprietory ati drivers, you'll break the opensource ati drivers that provide 3d acceleration for older cards.
[12:27] <hyperstream> hmm   nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2) ive compiled the offical  drivers from nvidia yet alsa cannot see the device ?
[12:27] <animax> Sub: Cool then. So my primary partition (for linux) should be say 10 gb? i'm planning to let all else remain fat32 for now. any issues there?
[12:27] <Ash-Fox> .. AC'97 should work out of the box
[12:27] <dpn> how do I take screenshots from inside of games
[12:28] <frogzoo> animax: any critical data should ALWAYS be backed up - ALL hard drives fail - eventually
[12:28] <dpn> print screen doesn't seem to work
[12:28] <hyperstream> it should..
[12:28] <hyperstream> Ash-Fox,  when  the login page comes up i can hear the ding ding sound
[12:28] <dpn> Didnt work with tux racer
[12:28] <animax> frogzoo: k
[12:28] <Sub> animax, thats fine, make your / partition ext3 if you can, but yes i have all my multimeida partitons as fat32 with no issues.
[12:28] <hyperstream> but in ubuntu itself
[12:28] <Ash-Fox> I mean, I've installed ubuntu on plenty of systems that have AC'97. Heck, even the computer I'm typing on right now has a AC'97 soundcard which works
[12:28] <hyperstream> nothing works
[12:28] <hyperstream> its onboard nforce
[12:29] <Sub> hyperstream, my friend uses the onboard audio on an nforce 2 in linux with no issues.
[12:29] <animax> Sub: k, thats just what  want. also what about swap, is it the pagefile of windows? cos on the sites i'm being told to have swap as phys mem x 3
[12:29] <animax> or atleast phy mem x 2
[12:29] <Ng> dpn: you'd need to use the game's own screenshot feature
[12:29] <Sub> animax, how much memory you got?
[12:29] <hyperstream> nforce 4 ...
[12:29] <animax> 1GB
[12:29] <Sub> animax, i always say match your ram over 1gb
[12:29] <dpn> Ng, does tux racer have one?
[12:29] <thomas_> swap is the same as a pagefile yeah
[12:29] <Ng> dpn: no idea I'm afraid
[12:29] <dpn> Theres no option for it in the options
[12:30] <Sub> animax, so id have a 1gb swap, i have 1gb memory and i use 1gb with no problems.
[12:30] <frogzoo> animax: laptop or server?
[12:30] <Sub> animax, altohugh if you want to hibernate youll prob want 1.,5-2x
[12:30] <Ash-Fox> hyperstream, do you have /dev/dsp ?
[12:30] <animax> frogzoo: desktop, recently upgraded
[12:30] <dpn> Anyone know how to take a screenshot of a game (tux racer) ?
[12:30] <reversial> printscreen?
[12:30] <dpn> no go
[12:30] <animax> Sub: so does linux use swap inside that 10 gb partition or i have to create another swap separately
[12:30] <thomas_> seperate
[12:31] <frogzoo> animax: sup to you really - but consider if you want to run heavy mem services: web server/mysql/plone - otherwise, 1gig swap's fine
[12:31] <reversial> dpn: gimp/ubuntu screenshot-taker thing
[12:31] <reversial> ?
[12:31] <dpn> The thing that pops up when I normally click it?
[12:31] <animax> thanks, any thumb rule like mem x this much? cos i plan to use stuff extensively for 3danimation/graphic designing
[12:31] <reversial> on gimp, it's file>acquire>screenshot, I think
[12:31] <Ng> animax: ram * 2 is a good general rule, but it becomes less important the more ram you have
[12:31] <dpn> Well, I need to be in the game
[12:32] <dpn> I want a screenshot of within the game
[12:32] <dpn> from
[12:32] <pinkman> Anyone know why mplayer isnt showing videos in web browser?
[12:32] <reversial> dpn: you can set this to take one after like a minute delay
[12:32] <Sub> animax, if you want to do alot of rendering and shit, maybe 2gb swap could be beneficial.
[12:32] <pinkman> It plays the sound althugh no video
[12:32] <animax> Ng: so i'll make a 2gb swap, dont think will need more right?
[12:32] <dpn> Gotcha reversial, just noticed that
[12:32] <dpn> thanks
[12:32] <animax> Sub: K
[12:32] <Ash-Fox> pinkman, nope.
[12:32] <Ng> animax: I would think that'd be fine
[12:32] <Sub> animax, make sure you get the right drivers for your 3d card if you want to use blender etc.
[12:33] <hyperstream> yes i do
[12:33] <hyperstream> Ash-Fox,  yes i do
[12:33] <animax> Sub: yep, if i can get nvidia for 64 bit, 32 shouldnt be an issue :/
[12:33] <reversial> dpn: though, if yer printscreen dont work, I can't guarantee anything
[12:33] <pinkman> No one can help me then?
[12:33] <pinkman> Ideas perfhaps?
[12:33] <spiderbatdad> can anyone help w/ installing vmware tools?
[12:33] <Sub> pinkman, try using gxine
[12:34] <pinkman> okie
[12:34] <dpn> It worked rev
[12:34] <reversial> :)
[12:34] <animax> btw most of you will prolly know, but Dont install 64bit, No Wine/flash/java and has crappy issues with every app :/
[12:34] <azcazandco> Hi everyone
[12:34] <dpn> Alt tab shows the game playing still thats awsome
[12:34] <dpn> Playing in the smaller alt tab window I mean
[12:34] <animax> Thanks a lot guys for the help. cya
[12:34] <Ash-Fox> hyperstream, your soundcard is detected and probably workin fine. AC'97 is a well known chipset, what is most likely your issue is some sound server has probably locked your soundcard up exclusively.
[12:34] <azcazandco> can anyone help me with a couple of things?
[12:34] <reversial> az, sure
[12:34] <Sub> !ask
[12:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:34] <pinkman> gxine... remove gstreamer and install it?
[12:34] <frogzoo> how do I create subordinate numbering in oo? ie   1.1.3 1.1.4 1.2.1  etc ?
[12:35] <hmrocha> hello, when i press alt+f2 and run gconf-editor gnome-panel crashes
[12:35] <Ash-Fox> hyperstream, I don't use gnome by default and have no idea what sound server it uses by default. But I assume the sound server it uses is probably locking it.
[12:35] <frogzoo> azcazandco: not if you keep us guessing what the problems are... o.O
[12:35] <hmrocha> can you try in your computer to see if this is a bug?
[12:35] <reversial> rev uses fluxbox :)
[12:35] <dpn> http://home.comcast.net/~dustinpn6/tuxracerws.jpg
[12:35] <hyperstream> dmesg shows: [17181498.708000]  Nvsound: Nvidia Audio Init Module, 22:28:55 Jul 10 2006 version 1.0-7
[12:35] <dpn> super widescreen
[12:35] <dpn> =p
[12:35] <spiderbatdad> pinkman: open synaptic, search totem, then select totem xine. it will remove gstreamer for you
[12:36] <hyperstream> Ash-Fox,  how can i unlock it ?
[12:36] <azcazandco> okay to explain first, I just installed ubuntu on my main pc which is an amd64bit3200+ , 2gb ram, radeon9600pro vid card, I just got 2 old and one new p4 pc's from my old work
[12:36] <pinkman> alright
[12:36] <Ash-Fox> hyperstream, shutdown whatever is locking it.
[12:36] <dpn> First time I've played a game at 2960x1050
[12:36] <reversial> damnm dpn, you got a crazy res there
[12:36] <frogzoo> !enter > azcazandco
[12:36] <azcazandco> what I want to do is set up on of those machines as a web server but it doen't have a monitor
[12:36] <azcazandco> frogzoo:?
[12:36] <reversial> dpn, i'm stuck wit 1024x768 =)
[12:37] <Ash-Fox> hyperstream, usually a sound a sound server like jacks, yiff, arts could of done so.
[12:37] <dpn> ;)
[12:37] <frogzoo> azcazandco: for ! commands, ubotu sends you a pm, so read it
[12:37] <Dr4g> Whats a good FTP client for Nix, that synaptic picks up
[12:37] <reversial> not gftp :P
[12:37] <dpn> I wonder If i can play wow at 2960x1050
[12:37] <dpn> lol
[12:37] <reversial> heheh
[12:37] <ivalladt> Dr4g: ncftp then?
[12:37] <dpn> That would be nuts on raids
[12:37] <reversial> twould
[12:37] <azcazandco> frogzoo: sorry
[12:37] <Dr4g> All i want is a basic FTP app with a GUI
[12:37] <Dr4g> Tell me one that synaptic will have
[12:38] <frogzoo> Dr4g: apt-cache search ftp
[12:38] <reversial> dpn, but that would mean using (shudder) WINDOWS ;)
[12:38] <dpn> Cedega =)
[12:38] <Dr4g> frogzoo: im using synaptic
[12:38] <Dr4g> not apt
[12:38] <frogzoo> Dr4g: -> search "ftp"
[12:38] <spiderbatdad> may i ask permission to ask if it's ok to ask a question?
[12:38] <dpn> I've heard WoW runs flawlessly in cedega
[12:38] <reversial> wow
[12:38] <reversial> never heard of that before
[12:38] <dpn> With max vid effects
[12:38] <reversial> thats awesome
[12:38] <frogzoo> spiderbatdad: certainly not - just ask the question
[12:39] <spiderbatdad> can anyone help w/ installing vmware tools?
[12:39] <pinkman> In the browser where the embbeded player is
[12:39] <pinkman> it says
[12:39] <CatalinuX> I installed Dapper yesterday and when I do a netstat -tl I see ports 51716, 39337 and ipp (what`s that) open. What are those and how do I disable the services that open those ports ?
[12:39] <frogzoo> !vmware
[12:39] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[12:39] <CatalinuX> I installed Dapper yesterday and when I do a netstat -tl I see ports 51716, 39337 and ipp (what`s that) open. What are those and how do I disable the services that open those ports ?
[12:39] <pinkman> "clcik ehre to download plugin"
[12:39] <pinkman> click here*
[12:39] <frogzoo> CatalinuX: ipp = internet printing protocol
[12:39] <control> When to me will send disks?
[12:39] <Dr4g> Using gFTP now.
[12:39] <spiderbatdad> ubotu: vmware server
[12:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about vmware server
[12:40] <tdn> How do I install w32codecs and libdvdcss2?
[12:40] <frogzoo> !restricted
[12:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:40] <reversial> dpn, they've got some pretty awesome screenshots
[12:40] <frogzoo> tdn: -> ubotu ^^^^
[12:40] <Ash-Fox> tdn, sudo apt-get install w32codecs libdvdcss2
[12:40] <dpn> Yeah, they have bf2 running in it
[12:40] <dpn> That blew my mind
[12:40] <reversial> mmm
[12:40] <reversial> halo next ;)
[12:40] <spiderbatdad> trying to install tools...cant find C kernel headers
[12:41] <azcazandco> okay, long story to short - I have a 2nd box I just installed ubuntu dapper onto and it is connected to this machine via ethernet to this box however it has no monitor, is it possible for me to manage that box from here and get apache / php / mysql running so I can use it as a web server?
[12:41] <pinkman> Can anyone help? I installed totem xine, yet still it says click here to downlaod plugin in FireFox where the embedded windows embedded media is.
[12:41] <pinkman> I have mplayer
[12:41] <control> helpme
[12:41] <reversial> azcaz, YES, install vncserver
[12:41] <Ash-Fox> azcazandco, yes, apt-get install sshd
[12:41] <pinkman> I had* but it didnt show the video. only played ausio
[12:41] <spiderbatdad> pinkman: do you have repos enabled?
[12:41] <cps> pinkman: do you have mozilla-mplayer installed?
[12:41] <ivalladt> just installed dapper drake and totem gstreamer doesn't play vcd, is this expected?
[12:41] <azcazandco> how can i do that when the box has not net connection?
[12:41] <control> When to me will send disks?
[12:42] <pinkman> No, how do I enable repos?
[12:42] <cps> !repositories
[12:42] <pinkman> Oh, repositories?
[12:42] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:42] <reversial> azz, if you can get a monitor for a few minutes, just do some apt-getting
[12:42] <pinkman> Yes, I got universal, and multi universal..
[12:42] <spiderbatdad> : pppppinkman in synaptic package manager...then hit reload
[12:42] <reversial> or is that not an option?
[12:42] <pinkman> I had  mozilla-mplayer, but the video wasnt showing.
[12:43] <cps> pinkman: so you removed it?
[12:43] <pinkman> Yes... should I put it back on?
[12:43] <azcazandco> reversial: if I switch monitor over, will you hold my hand whilst I set this up? I am prtetty much a newb to this stuff
[12:43] <pinkman> I gifured Id try totem xine..
[12:43] <pinkman> I figured*
[12:43] <reversial> azcaz, of course ;)
[12:43] <azcazandco> cheers
[12:43] <cps> pinkman: yeah
[12:44] <pinkman> Alright, well.. when I do, how would I fix the video?
[12:44] <azcazandco> the other thing I want to do is get mythtv on the go on another box but that is for another day, I just got loads of computers from my work before I left
[12:44] <pinkman> I have used it befor, but video has ever not shown.
[12:44] <cps> pinkman: or, install totem-xine-firefox-plugin
[12:44] <reversial> wow
[12:44] <pinkman> lol, now you tell me
[12:44] <pinkman> :P
[12:44] <avis> pinkman then install totem-xine
[12:44] <azcazandco> the best of which is a new p4 2.8ghz 1/2gb ram machine
[12:45] <azcazandco> 80gb drive
[12:45] <cps> pinkman: but I haven't tried the totem one so YMMV
[12:45] <Kanpachi> hello, can i get rid of the trash? not the applet, the whole thing
[12:45] <reversial> damn, that's better than the thing i;m on right now :)
[12:45] <cps> Kanpachi: in what way? So that things don't go to the trash when you delete them?
[12:45] <azcazandco> all i need is a tv capture card and wireless dongle to get it up and running
[12:45] <avis> what is a mythtv ?
[12:45] <Kanpachi> yes
[12:45] <zugu> hello, please suggest a fileroller alternative
[12:45] <Kanpachi> just delete them forever
[12:45] <azcazandco> http://www.mythtv.org
[12:45] <Kanpachi> no trash
[12:46] <azcazandco> avis: looks awesome
[12:46] <avis> zugu: ark
[12:46] <neutrinomass> telinit 5
[12:46] <zugu> avis: thanks
[12:46] <neutrinomass> oops, sorry, wrong terminal
[12:46] <pinkman> Ill b back later if it doesnt work.
[12:46] <avis> azcazandco, i will meditate for a bit on the idea
[12:46] <cps> Kanpachi: In the File Manager preferences there is an option to "Enable a delete command that bypasses the trash" check that and then you will have a "Delete" item in your menu that will delete the file without moving it to the trash
[12:46] <reversial> azcaz, just looked, and mythv's in the repository too, so that wont be hard to install
[12:47] <azcazandco> reversial: switching boxes now, will need to get my wireless switched over too, bit of a hassle
[12:47] <reversial> mmkay
[12:47] <Kanpachi> thanx
[12:47] <azcazandco> bummer I havent got a longer ethernet cable
[12:48] <reversial> heh
[12:48] <tdn> frogzoo, thanks.
[12:49] <tdn> Ash-Fox, I do not have the sources for that. Which sources should I use? Can I use anything from debian-multimedia.org?
[12:49] <frogzoo> tdn: don't install debian packages on ubuntu
[12:50] <Ash-Fox> !easysource
[12:50] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:50] <Ash-Fox> you will need the multiverse repository if I recall correctly.
[12:50] <tdn> frogzoo, ok. I did that with Skype, because it was all I could find.
[12:50] <tdn> Ash-Fox, I already have multiverse. But I do not have w32codecs.
[12:51] <tdn> Ash-Fox, frogzoo: my sources.list: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=137
[12:51] <frogzoo> tdn: as a general rule, debian's libraries are different from ubuntu's & installing debian packages potentially can mess up your system horribly
[12:51] <tdn> frogzoo, ok.
[12:52] <avis> you must wget and dpkg -i win 32 codecs.  see restricted formats in ubuntu wiki
[12:52] <Ash-Fox> tdn, look on that page, it says right there under 'Cipherfunk multimedia packages', 'This repository contains popular multimedia packages, such as w32codecs'
[12:52] <hyperstream> !win32codecs
[12:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about win32codecs
[12:52] <hyperstream> !win32codec
[12:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about win32codec
[12:52] <hyperstream> eek
[12:52] <frogzoo> !codecs
[12:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:52] <hyperstream> thanks frogzoo
[12:52] <frogzoo> yw
[12:52] <tdn> Ash-Fox, where do you see anything about Cipherfunk?
[12:53] <reversial> *random question* anyone else out there using fluxbox?
[12:53] <ompaul> frogzoo, the phrase is, new and interesting ways :-)
[12:53] <Ash-Fox> 12:49 <Ash-Fox> !easysource
[12:53] <Ash-Fox> 12:49 <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:53] <tdn> reversial, yes.
[12:53] <dpn> http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ , that repo has the w32 codecs
[12:53] <tdn> reversial, or actually I use OpenBox, but it is the same ball park.
[12:53] <reversial> tdn, any idea how I would go about editing the menus?
[12:54] <reversial> 'cause a few of mah programs arent showing up, and I want to add ;em
[12:54] <Ash-Fox> tdn, what I pasted above is where I got it from.
[12:54] <tdn> reversial, yes: http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php/Howto_edit_menu. Although I prefer the way OpenBox handles menus.
[12:55] <tdn> Ash-Fox, yeah. Ok. Thanks.
[12:55] <reversial> tdn, I'll have to have a look at that openbox thing then :). Thanks.
[12:56] <tdn> reversial, you're welcome.
[12:57] <tdn> reversial, I can also recommend adesklets and pypanel combined with OpenBox :)
[12:57] <Prophet> hi
[12:57] <frogzoo> ompaul: got it ^_^
[12:57] <Prophet> kann you give me help with sound problems?
[12:57] <reversial> mmkay, I shall look at thhose too
[12:57] <tdn> reversial, also there is a tool called obconf that lets you edit some of the configuration from GUI.
[12:58] <Gen|G^2> ok, ive never touched linux before in my life, but ive always wanted to give it a go and i was suggested to use ubuntu. it installs fine, no problems, boots up login, no problems. im looking around playing some of the games, just getting the feel for it when i decide to configure my wireless so i connect to the net and such.  through much confusion i find its just not working, so i restart back into xp and browse the forums. a fair
[12:58] <Prophet> my sound works ok but in some application like Amarok od KMPlayer there is no sound
[12:58] <frogzoo> !docs > Gen|G^2
[12:58] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: just to get you started
[12:58] <Gen|G^2> :/i didnt get to finish :/
[12:58] <hyperstream> Sound issue: ive paste info on everything i know how to, to do with my sound card etc moduels loaded and what not. im still not getting any sound http://pastebin.com/744510
[12:59] <pinkman> Alright.
[01:00] <Gen|G^2> yeah a guide to it is all fine and dandsy, but whats the point if i have to format and reinstall every time i want to login
[01:00] <pinkman> I have tried gstreamer firefox lpugin, embedded videos didnt work, I tried xine, plugin as well for firefox, didnt work, I tried mozilla-player, it works but only with audio, no video.
[01:00] <pinkman> I even restarted linux in all the proccesses, nothing worked.
[01:00] <hyperstream> what would be locking /dev/dsp ?
[01:01] <Prophet> the link is brokwn
[01:02] <hyperstream> Prophet,  mine ?
[01:02] <Prophet> any other help to my sound problem? i allready searched with google and ubunut wiki
 what would be locking /dev/dsp ? <-- ????
[01:02] <tdn> Ash-Fox, I get this error when doing apt-get update after adding the Ciperfunk sources: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=138.
[01:03] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: did you finish?
[01:03] <Gen|G^2> no
[01:03] <Gen|G^2> i can summarise it into "why can i only log in once and then have to format/reinstall to get back in"
[01:03] <Ash-Fox> tdn, don't worry about it.
[01:04] <nomats> pinkman, tried vlc-mozilla-plugin?
[01:04] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: that's mad
[01:04] <pinkman> Ill try now.
[01:04] <tdn> Ash-Fox, shall I just ignore it?
[01:04] <Ash-Fox> tdn, ignoring it is safe :)
[01:04] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: what happens on subsequent logins?
[01:04] <Gen|G^2> i login, it goes to the maroon screen and then nothing
[01:05] <Gen|G^2> i can move the mouse around and stuff, but theres nothing there
[01:05] <Gen|G^2> if i wait long enough the screensaver comes on
[01:05] <EvilGuru> how do I enable printer sharing and browsing over my local network; sudo /usr/share/cups/enable_browsing 1 said that I had a custom configuration
[01:05] <tdn> Ash-Fox, ok.
[01:05] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: did you verify the cd you're installing from?
[01:06] <Gen|G^2> using the check for error option when you choose to install?
[01:06] <Ash-Fox> EvilGrin, you can do it through the administration panel on the webbased interface, no?
[01:06] <azcazandco> reversial: I am back online
[01:06] <quandar> I have an ATI 9600, and I want drop shadows, but don't want compiz, possible?
[01:06] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: I think there's an option to check the cd's md5 checksum somewhere in there
[01:07] <tungsten> http://www.scschools.org/jobs/jobs.htm
[01:07] <Gen|G^2> i checked the cd, it ddnt pick up anything
[01:07] <Otacon22> I have a usb fingerprint sensor, can I use it on linux with a program?
[01:07] <Otacon22> exist a program for using it?
[01:07] <Gen|G^2> i just dont see why i can login once, and then it locks me out
[01:07] <pinkman> pinkman@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install vlc-mozilla-plugin
[01:07] <pinkman> Reading package lists... Done
[01:07] <pinkman> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:07] <pinkman> E: Couldn't find package vlc-mozilla-plugin
[01:07] <frying_fish> pinkman: use pastebin
[01:08] <seraphim> does suse use another way to encrypt user-passwords than ubuntu? i can't log in with the nis-users from the suse-box although everything seems to be alright...
[01:08] <EvilGuru> anyone have any ideas?
[01:08] <pinkman> Ey, well thats all. And id didnt work.
[01:08] <frying_fish> and pinkman I think its mozilla-plugin-vlc
[01:08] <pinkman> the command you gave me.
[01:08] <pinkman> lol
[01:08] <pinkman> okie
[01:08] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: what are you doing after you log in? typically, you should logout/back in, no big deal
[01:08] <DarkLegacy> Hey, upon sucsessfull install of Ubuntu, GRUB is automatically the default loader, correct?
[01:08] <frogzoo> DarkLegacy: bingo
[01:09] <pinkman> Also, a quick question, how to remove packets with terminal?
[01:09] <DarkLegacy> Will I be able to choose between XP and Ubuntu when I start my computer?
[01:09] <tungsten> fyi
[01:09] <Gen|G^2> i logged in, played some games, shut down to go have dinner, came back and it wouldnt let me in
[01:09] <frying_fish> pinkman: either use synaptic to search for it, or apt-cache search
[01:09] <DarkLegacy> In the default GRUB menu?
[01:09] <sorush20> how do I extract the contents of a .exe file in ubuntu
[01:09] <frogzoo> pinkman: sudo dpkg --purge PACKAGE
[01:09] <tungsten> http://www.scschools.org/jobs/jobs.htm
[01:09] <frying_fish> DarkLegacy: yes.
[01:09] <pinkman> alright
[01:09] <DarkLegacy> Perfect.
[01:09] <nomats> pinkman, mozilla-plugin-vlc
[01:09] <pinkman> yeah
[01:09] <DarkLegacy> I'm going to have a dual boot system! ^_________^
[01:09] <pinkman> it installed, ima test.
[01:09] <frogzoo> tungsten: once more - c'mon
[01:09] <azcazandco> reversial: gimme a shout when you are free
[01:09] <root___> where is 'ifcfg-eth0' file in dapper?
[01:10] <frying_fish> DarkLegacy: change the settings in menu.lst to make sure that the grub menu isn't hidden if you want
[01:10] <DarkLegacy> I didn't install Ubuntu yet
[01:10] <pinkman> Alright.. I tested, it shows "No Picture" Where the video should be.
[01:10] <DarkLegacy> I'm just burning the DVD now
[01:10] <frying_fish> well, when you do, do that
[01:10] <frying_fish> dvd?
[01:10] <DarkLegacy> I'm going to partition my other drive
[01:10] <DarkLegacy> And then install
[01:10] <frying_fish> ok
[01:10] <nomats> pinkman, you might have to remove some files from /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins to make it work
[01:10] <bigfoot1> quick question. If I burn my files (mp3s and jpegs, etc) on a MAC os computer, can Ubuntu comp or Windows Comp read the CD?
[01:11] <frogzoo> root___: 'locate ifcfg-eth0'
[01:11] <pinkman> alright/
[01:11] <pinkman> Well, I added a extention? That may be why?
[01:11] <SonicChao> bigfoot1: they should be able too
[01:11] <frogzoo> root___: btw, running irc as root is highly not recommended
[01:11] <bigfoot1> SonicChao: no need to worry about the "format"?
[01:11] <root___> test
[01:12] <bigfoot1> frogzoo: why not?
[01:12] <SonicChao> bigfoot1: I recommend just putting all the jpegs and music in there without formatting the disk
[01:12] <bigfoot1> formatting isn't necessary?
[01:12] <frogzoo> bigfoot1: -> google "irc root"
[01:12] <bigfoot1> if not, why would anyone bother formatting?
[01:12] <pinkman> Got rid of the extension, didnt need anyhow, but did nothing ill check the folder.
[01:12] <SonicChao> bigfoot1: Not a mac guy, but I dont think so
[01:13] <quandar> I have an ATI 9600, and I want drop shadows, but don't want compiz, possible?
[01:13] <xbl> good day!
[01:13] <DarkLegacy> Time to go install Ubuntu! :)
[01:13] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: so no answer, what are you doing after you log in?
[01:13] <sporty> thanks!
[01:13] <DarkLegacy> Wish me luck
[01:13] <Gen|G^2> i did answer
[01:14] <pinkman> Well, the only plugin in there that doesnt have mplayer in the name is libunixprintplugin.so
[01:14] <DarkLegacy> If all goes well, I'll be on XChat in no time
[01:14] <pinkman> Shall I get rid of that? I dont have a printer.
[01:14] <azcazandco> reversial: you still up for helping?
[01:14] <SonicChao> bigfoot1: WAIT, you mean a CD right?
[01:14] <xbl> where can I find the log file of copied files?
[01:14] <xbl> where can I find the log file of copied files?
 i logged in, played some games, shut down to go have dinner, came back and it wouldnt let me in
[01:14] <sporty> where's network files in /etc/sysconfig ?
[01:14] <SonicChao> bigfoot1: Not your hardisk?
[01:14] <seraphim> FAILED LOGIN (1) on `tty2' FOR `sera', Authentication failure <-- what can this error mean when 'sera' is a nis-user?
[01:14] <Chousuke> sporty: you're still root.
[01:14] <SonicChao> !patience > xbl
[01:14] <Chousuke> sporty: why are you logged in as root in any case?
[01:14] <zerod> hey
[01:14] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: when you say "shut down" - does that mean you logged out? or just turned the power off?
[01:14] <zerod> confidential
[01:14] <Gen|G^2> i clicked the red putton, the clicked the shut dow option
[01:14] <Lynoure> xbl: copied by what? Nothing logs manual dublicates
[01:14] <Gen|G^2> button*
[01:14] <SonicChao> zerod: whats the problem?
[01:15] <sporty> to study, I'm newbie.
[01:15] <reversial> azcazandco, yeah, sorry, i was out for a bit
[01:15] <bigfoot1> SonicChao: yes i meant a CD-R disk
[01:15] <SonicChao> bigfoot1: If you mean a CD-R disk, I doubt formatting is necessary
[01:15] <reversial> really, azcaz wasn't hassling
[01:15] <pinkman> You still there nomats?
[01:15] <xbl> Lynoure: i copied some files in nautilus from a harddrive to somewhere on my drive which I can't remember...
[01:16] <reversial> so, anyway, are you on the second machine now?
[01:16] <azcazandco> yup
[01:16] <reversial> mmkay
[01:16] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: suggest you boot to recovery mode, then take a look in /var/log/messages & /var/log/Xorg.0.log for badness
[01:16] <reversial> first, open up a terminal
[01:16] <azcazandco> done
[01:16] <darkowl> does anyone here plays nfsmw on ubuntu ?
[01:16] <reversial> and type "sudo apt-get install vncviewer"
[01:16] <Gen|G^2> O.o dont even know what that is let alone what im looking for
[01:16] <SonicChao> darkowl: what is NFSMW?
[01:16] <Chousuke> sporty: well, the first thing to learn is to avoid logging in as root as much as possible. :)
[01:16] <nomats> pinkman, yes i am.
[01:16] <darkowl> need for speed most wanted
[01:16] <pinkman> Well, only thing in that folder is mplayer stuff.
[01:16] <Lynoure> xbl: there is not log of that. You can use   locate   or  find to  find them
[01:17] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: for starters, no need to reinstall, as long as you can boot to recovery mode, you should be able to fix without reinstalling, fingers crossed
[01:17] <Gen|G^2> recovery mode takes me to command line and then says i pressed a wrong buttong every 10 seocnds
[01:17] <reversial> VNC is a program that allows you to control a coputer remotely
[01:17] <pinkman> Other then a .so for printing.
[01:17] <SonicChao> darkowl: it doesn't work in Wine?
[01:17] <Chousuke> hm :/
[01:17] <Lynoure> xbl: man locate    or   man find    for more info
[01:17] <azcazandco> reversial: I am getting errors
[01:17] <darkowl> SonicChao: NO...
[01:17] <nomats> pinkman, move them to another dir temporarily and test if it starts working
[01:17] <Chousuke> maybe I should enable quit messages. :P
[01:17] <reversial> azcazandco: what sort of errors?
[01:17] <SonicChao> darkowl: than it *probably* wont work on ubuntu
[01:17] <pinkman> I have
[01:17] <nomats> pinkman, and remember to restart your browser everytime you change something
[01:18] <reversial> ohhhh, nevermind
[01:18] <reversial> you dont want vncviewer.
[01:18] <Gen|G^2> hmm
[01:18] <reversial> sorry, i wasnt thinking
[01:18] <xbl> Lynoure: ahh ok thanks sir, but is there a log file for files/folders that I copy?
[01:18] <azcazandco> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:18] <azcazandco> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:18] <Gen|G^2> i think i might go get the laptop so i can fiddle and be in here at the same time
[01:18] <reversial> azcaz, that means you have synaptic or something open...
[01:18] <pinkman> Well, it didnt work.
[01:18] <azcazandco> can we open a private chat?
[01:18] <reversial> sure
[01:19] <POVaddct> reversial: that means he is not root
[01:19] <Gorlist> Hi
[01:19] <reversial> ah :)
[01:19] <reversial> thankee, poy
[01:19] <Gorlist> need to installed libopenal
[01:19] <Gorlist> just wondering, which one should I get from the Package Manager?
[01:19] <Gorlist> libopenal0, or libopenal0a (1:0.0.8=lubuntu1
[01:20] <frogzoo> azcazandco: synaptic open?
[01:20] <Gorlist> the first os kist a ;pad pf numbers
[01:20] <Gorlist> the first is just a list of numbers :)
[01:20] <Gen|G^2> bbiab
[01:20] <hyperstream> how do i get alsaconf in ubuntu ive search synaptic
[01:20] <azcazandco> yes I have shut it now
[01:20] <hyperstream> with no results
[01:20] <azcazandco> reversial: I have started a private chat
[01:21] <reversial> azz: I'm in it ;)
[01:21] <pinkman> I take it no one can help me?
[01:21] <Gorlist> ideas?
[01:21] <Lynoure> xbl: I'm not a sir, but don't like being called madam either. You are welcome. No, no such log.
[01:21] <reversial> ... and back to azcaz.
[01:22] <azcazandco> was trying to get az... shorter for folk to type
[01:22] <cappiz> someone here ever used gallery2 ? i got a problem, im trying to remove the icons for "xhtml validation" but i dont find how i can do it
[01:22] <xbl> Lynoure: ok, anyway thanks sir(that's how we call those who share knowledge)... thank you again..
[01:23] <reversial> sorry bout that, lost wifi for a minute
[01:23] <azcazandco> heh
[01:23] <reversial> But anyway,
[01:23] <azcazandco> , i keep typing on the wrong keyboard
[01:24] <reversial> "sudo apt-get install vncserver" should work
[01:24] <reversial> as long as you don't have synaptic open
[01:24] <avis> azcazandco, what do you need help with ?
[01:24] <DarkLegacy> Hey all
[01:24] <DarkLegacy> Er, well
[01:24] <DarkLegacy> I'm running Ubuntu off of the DVD
[01:24] <DarkLegacy> And I want to install Kubuntu
[01:24] <DarkLegacy> How do I go about doing that?
[01:24] <azcazandco> avis: lots lol
[01:24] <avis> ok
[01:24] <avis> tell me
[01:25] <Lynoure> xbl: call me rather lady than sir... :)
[01:25] <reversial> *feels left-out*
[01:25] <SimzI> I need GIMP tips
[01:25] <azcazandco> trying to set up vnc amongst other things
[01:25] <avis> oh
[01:25] <luseruser> hi
[01:25] <reversial> sudo apt-get install vncserver....
[01:25] <avis> i dont know what vnc server package is called.
[01:25] <xbl> Lynoure: ooops sorry your a female? sorry  sorry  sorry  sorry  sorry
[01:25] <avis> try apt-get install vncserver
[01:25] <DarkLegacy> anywa
[01:25] <luseruser> with ubuntu can I create partitions with LVM?
[01:25] <hyperstream> Sound issue: ive paste info on everything i know how to, to do with my sound card etc moduels loaded and what not. im still not getting any sound http://pastebin.com/744510
[01:25] <DarkLegacy>  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop would install it where
[01:26] <DarkLegacy> Onto the LIVECD mounted thing?
[01:26] <SonicChao> DarkLegacy: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:26] <frogzoo> SimzI: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/
[01:26] <hyperstream> how do i get alsaconf in ubuntu ive searched synaptic
[01:26] <SimzI> thanks
[01:26] <DarkLegacy> Will it bring me to the text mode install menu?
[01:26] <chapium> simzl: http://digg.com/software/GIMP_Tutorials
[01:26] <SonicChao> DarkLegacy: Log out, go to "Select Session..." and choose KDE
[01:26] <azcazandco> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:26] <POVaddct> DarkLegacy: no, you have to install it first, then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:26] <Lynoure> xbl: Yes, not that it matters much. But it gets me feeling a tad weird when called with a male title.
[01:26] <DarkLegacy> Ok
[01:26] <SonicChao> DarkLegacy: it's under Options...
[01:26] <avis> azcazandco, you have synaptic open as well both of them wont work at same time
[01:26] <SonicChao> DarkLegacy: but this only works if Ubuntu is installed on a system
[01:26] <Lynoure> xbl: Not a big deal, really :)
[01:26] <pinkman> If anyone can help me get media files to show in web pages(fire fox) with mplayer, please help. I have tried totem xine, and the xine ffx plugin, so I am not gonna retry, unless ya tell me something new,.. as far as mplayer goes, it loads the audio, shows no video.
[01:27] <azcazandco> avis: definitely shut it down
[01:27] <xbl> Lynoure: sorry madam, thanks a lot!
[01:27] <DarkLegacy> It's downloading something now
[01:27] <DarkLegacy> For the installation I believe
[01:27] <reversial> avis, azcazandco, he needs to run it as root
[01:27] <avis> Lynoure, can i just call you Lynoure ?
[01:27] <Lynoure> avis: That would be wonderful, thank you :)
[01:27] <azcazandco> i thought that is what sudo does
[01:27] <avis> azcazandco, sudo -i in terminal
[01:28] <avis> Lynoure, thats a lovely configuration your wearing this morning.
[01:28] <DarkLegacy> lol
[01:28] <Lynoure> avis: debian through putty, painful to wear, but my employer (soon ex-) forces me to use mswin at work :(
[01:29] <avis> okies Lynoure
[01:29] <avis> it was actually a reference to k-pax
[01:29] <azcazandco> Package vncserver is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package vncserver has no installation candidate
[01:29] <Gen|G^2> ok, im in recovery mode
[01:29] <Gen|G^2> wha did i have to type?
[01:29] <luseruser> is ardour available for Ubuntu????
[01:30] <chaos_of_apocaly> can anyone tell me a prog. to change my ogg videos to avi?
[01:30] <azcazandco> can i not just hunt down packages using synaptic?
[01:30] <avis> azcazandco, dont mess with apt-get -- go to synaptic and reload sources.  then do a search for "vnc"  find server right select mark for installation then apply
[01:30] <azcazandco> or is this a cleaner way of doing things?
[01:30] <Ash-Fox> chaos_of_apocaly, VLC
[01:30] <azcazandco> k
[01:30] <chaos_of_apocaly> vlc?
[01:30] <chaos_of_apocaly> how?
[01:31] <Ash-Fox> It's got transcoding options, just stream to a avi file
[01:31] <J_P> hi all
[01:31] <chaos_of_apocaly> ok
[01:31] <Ash-Fox> luseruser, ardour is in ubuntu's repositories.
[01:32] <azcazandco> WTF?  it aint letting me into synaptic now
[01:32] <azcazandco> says i have wrong pas
[01:32] <seraphim> pls have a look and help if you can: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1236218 - thanks in advance :)
[01:32] <avis> you must remember sudo pass
[01:32] <azcazandco> ah am in now
[01:32] <DarkLegacy> What's the difference between kdm and gdm?
[01:33] <Ash-Fox> DarkLegacy, kdm is from the KDE DE, gdm is from the Gnome DE.
[01:33] <DarkLegacy> I see
[01:33] <avis> when was written for kde the other gnome there is also xdm
[01:33] <hawkaloogie> DarkLegacy, functionally? probably very little
[01:33] <DarkLegacy> Anyway, the install failed I think
[01:33] <DarkLegacy> Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code
[01:33] <azcazandco> avis: looks like it is installed already
[01:33] <avis> the server ?  it was marked green ?
[01:34] <DarkLegacy> hm
[01:34] <azcazandco> yes
[01:34] <DarkLegacy> I seem to be unable to install Kubuntu while in live DVD mode
[01:34] <avis> ok
[01:34] <DarkLegacy> Do I need to go get the Kubuntu CD to install it?
[01:34] <Ash-Fox> No
[01:34] <avis> i guess type that in a terminal to see what your options are perhaps vnc-server start or pkgname
[01:34] <EvilGuru> can anyone help me with this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212659
[01:35] <DarkLegacy> :(
[01:35] <DarkLegacy> I can't install Kubuntu from the Ubuntu dVD?
[01:35] <Ash-Fox> DarkLegacy, you can easilly convert to kubuntu after installing ubuntu/xubuntu or whatever, it's just a pakage you install via apt-get which installs a bunch of the relevent oners
[01:35] <avis> dark, kdm you just apt-get kdm if you want kde them apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:35] <DarkLegacy> Will it still keep Ubuntu on my system?
[01:35] <DarkLegacy> Or will it delete Ubuntu and keep Kubuntu?
[01:35] <avis> keep both
[01:35] <Ash-Fox> kubuntu/xubuntu/ubuntu are really the same distrobutions :)
[01:35] <azcazandco> avis: that doesn't work
[01:36] <DarkLegacy> Do I need both?
[01:36] <Ash-Fox> Their defaults are only different.
[01:36] <avis> try man page azcazandco
[01:36] <gsuveg> DarkLegacy: ubuntu is gnome, kubuntu is kde
[01:36] <DarkLegacy> I want Kde :\
[01:36] <avis> i dont think vnc server would be auto started by default on a new install.  that would be dumb.
[01:36] <crogue5> !kde
[01:36] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[01:36] <newUbU> hi
[01:36] <DarkLegacy> Do I actually have to install Ubuntu first onto my drive before I can install Kubuntu?
[01:37] <Ash-Fox> kubuntu uses KDE, and kubuntu logos, but the applications and everything else is the same as the other ubuntu distros, infact they share the same repositories.
[01:37] <Jonnings> Hi. I have two paritions, one with XP on and one with Ubuntu. I want to reduce the disk-space on the one with XP and use the free space to increase the Ubuntu-parition. Is there any safe way to do this and keep both operation systems?
[01:37] <azcazandco> no man entry for vnc-server
[01:37] <DarkLegacy> bleh
[01:37] <DarkLegacy> Ill go install Ubuntu then
[01:37] <DarkLegacy> And come back
[01:37] <DarkLegacy> G: is flucked anyway
[01:37] <ale> buenos idas
[01:37] <crogue5> DarkLegacy, we assume you already have ubuntu installed...
[01:37] <ale> dias
[01:37] <Ash-Fox> Jonnings, partition magic under windows xp
[01:37] <avis> azcazandco, i only guessed at the packagename you have to look that up in synaptic
[01:37] <DarkLegacy> I don't
[01:37] <newUbU> Can I install Ubuntu on top of Win98SE ?
[01:37] <DarkLegacy> I'm on LiveCD
[01:37] <azcazandco> says vnc-common
[01:37] <crogue5> oh
[01:37] <azcazandco> no man page for that either
[01:37] <Ash-Fox> newUbU, yes
[01:37] <Gen|G^2> rgh still wont make it passed login :/
[01:38] <newUbU> Ash-Fox you mean without a separate partition ?
[01:38] <Ash-Fox> newUbU, I mean ontop
[01:38] <avis> # updatedb ; locate ubuntu-common -- then investigate
[01:38] <DarkLegacy> Uhm
[01:38] <newUbU> Ash-Fox are they not the same ?
[01:38] <DarkLegacy> The install thing isn't working in Ubuntu :\
[01:38] <Ash-Fox> No, a seperate partition would be sharing the machine with win98 still
[01:38] <DarkLegacy> System > Admin > Install, and nothing
[01:38] <Ash-Fox> ontop is replacing win98
[01:38] <softwork> how i go to text mode
[01:38] <Jonnings> Ahs-Fox: There is no problems in adding free space to my ubuntu-parition right? It wont fark up my OS?
[01:39] <softwork> exit of graphic mode
[01:39] <Ash-Fox> Jonnings, no problems adding more free space to ubuntu partition, no :)
[01:39] <newUbU> Ash-Fox I see, actually I did not intend to remove it, maybe share the same partition with win98 ?
[01:39] <softwork> how i exit of graphic mode
[01:39] <softwork> to text mode
[01:39] <Ash-Fox> newUbU, I suggest you try running ubuntu off the cd first for a while. If you want to run it in windows 98, look at vmware www.vmware.com
[01:39] <seraphim> you will need a clear partition for ubuntu newUbU
[01:40] <ale> is there a bible i can put into ubuntu
[01:40] <seraphim> softwork: ctrl-alt-f1
[01:40] <newUbU> seraphim how about creating persistent sessions in win98 ?
[01:40] <seraphim> as Ash-Fox said, you could use vmware
[01:40] <Ash-Fox> newUbU, you may also want to look at the colinux project for windows. Which runs the linux kernel under windows.
[01:41] <Ash-Fox> (Some people may start screaming 'blasphemy!' now)
[01:41] <ajmitch> ale: are you looking for packages such as gnomesword or bibletime?
[01:41] <newUbU> I thought you could save sessions while running the Live CD on the windows partition, that way you save repeating many things ?
[01:42] <azcazandco> avis: i have found a getting started guide but the command it says cannot be found
[01:42] <sorush20> where is my firmware folder
[01:43] <ale> aj yes?
[01:44] <newUbU> Ash-Fox, seraphim I thought you could save sessions while running the Live CD on the windows partition, that way you save repeating many things ?
[01:44] <Ash-Fox> newUbU, I don't really mess with the live edition except for recovering systems.
[01:44] <seraphim> no, you cant save your session
[01:44] <newUbU> Ash-Fox indeed I found myself rebooting the live-CD for recovering several times and it was boring
[01:45] <newUbU> does ubuntu guide a user to automatically create partition for it's installation ?
[01:45] <Ash-Fox> dustinpn, it's running under wine *Gasp*
[01:45] <amit> hi
[01:45] <newUbU> hello amit
[01:46] <Ash-Fox> newUbU, yes
[01:46] <newUbU> seraphim thanks for the info
[01:46] <chapium> newUbU: i believe it does.
[01:46] <avis> newUbU, only / and swap which isn't practical you should have a seperate /home directory in the case you must reinstall
[01:46] <avis> at least
[01:46] <Gullstad> How log off a user by killing all their prosesses trough SSH?
[01:46] <Ash-Fox> If you backup enough, there really is no need :)
[01:46] <avis> shutdown ssh ?
[01:46] <hyperstream> how do i get alsaconf in ubuntu ive searched synaptic
[01:47] <hyperstream> Sound issue: ive paste info on everything i know how to, to do with my sound card etc moduels loaded and what not. im still not getting any sound http://pastebin.com/744510
[01:47] <amit> sir i am a new user of ubuntu? and want to get some information and support?
[01:47] <pinkman> Agh, I still cant get embedded media pages in firefox to display video.. with mplayer... =.=
[01:47] <pinkman> Audio works, seems to be all though.
[01:47] <chapium> !helpme
[01:47] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:47] <amit> what is apache and what is its use?
[01:47] <mark_> anybody with working package telak?
[01:47] <azcazandco> avis, think I just ballsed something up
[01:48] <avis> azcazandco, ok. something messed up -- what did you do ?
[01:48] <chapium> amit: apache.org
[01:48] <azcazandco> well the commands weren't recognised so I went to remove the package
[01:48] <chapium> amit, the main program is httpd, a web server
[01:48] <azcazandco> it removed ubuntu desktop also and now I can't get either to install via synaptic
[01:49] <Gen|G^2> why is it, that when im in recovery moe, it keeps telling me "unknown key pressed...etc etc"?
[01:49] <avis> azcazandco, reinstall through synaptic.  if you remember the name of what you removed.  it should also install other dependencies
[01:49] <azcazandco> i can't install it
[01:49] <azcazandco> is coming up with errors
[01:50] <Gullstad> How logout another user by shutting down all the prosesses trough therminal?
[01:50] <Gullstad> kill -sigkilll or something?
[01:50] <juan> when u install programs via the package manager, how do you find them/use them?
[01:50] <azcazandco> damn... did i remove it from synaptic?  I cant see it now
[01:51] <cwillu> azcazandco: there's a dpkg-info or something (synaptic can also tell you the same info, properties on the package)
[01:51] <avis> azcazandco, are you doing this through apt or synaptic ?  regardless, i think you need someone more experienced than me to fix it.. but i'm sure it can be fixed.  just write down as much info or save to file for reference
[01:51] <cwillu> oops, juan, what I just said to azcazandco
[01:51] <softwork> how i close graphic mode?
[01:51] <bina> is there a way to update the groups you are in without logging out and in?
[01:51] <azcazandco> avis: thanks for your help
[01:51] <juan> ahh thx
[01:52] <cwillu> azcazandco: what did you do?
[01:52] <softwork> i need to close to install nvidia drrivers
[01:52] <azcazandco> ah... is cool, I reloaded the repositories
[01:52] <cwillu> softwork: ctrl+alt+backspace will restart x, or switch to a console (ctrl+alt+f1) and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:53] <cwillu> p
[01:53] <softwork> how i close graphic mode to install nvidia drivers?
[01:53] <cwillu> softwork?
[01:53] <Ash-Fox> softwork, init 3
[01:53] <ramtha> hi
[01:54] <softwork> init 3?
[01:54] <azcazandco> man i just downgraded my net connection, i am gonna hit my bw limits quick doing stuff like this
[01:54] <cwillu> anybody know what users exist in the ubuntu network boot image?
[01:54] <cwillu> softwork: type it in a console
[01:54] <ramtha> which command i can use to clear my memory
[01:54] <cwillu>  or terminal
[01:54] <ramtha> i know there is such a command
[01:54] <ramtha> but i didnt rember it
[01:54] <ramtha> clear unused memory :)
[01:54] <lophyte> ramtha: amnesia does a pretty good job of that <G>
[01:55] <ramtha> ;)
[01:55] <Ash-Fox> ramtha, kernel should free up memory when it's unused, unlike windows.
[01:55] <ramtha> i hope so :)
[01:55] <lophyte> yeah, I'm not familiar with a command to do it
[01:55] <chapium> does ext3 not need defragmentation?
[01:55] <lophyte> chapium: nope.
[01:55] <Ash-Fox> There isn't, because the linux kernel does that automatically
[01:56] <Ash-Fox> chapium, nope :)
[01:56] <chapium> how so?
[01:56] <deFrysk> ramtha, linux takes full advantage of your memory and uses it as much as it needs
[01:56] <chapium> it just puts files in the right place the first time?
[01:56] <Ash-Fox> chapium, the system should maintain the partition in the background
[01:56] <lophyte> yeah.. it handles filesystems a lot more efficiently than NTFS or FAT
[01:56] <newUbU> Can I run the ubuntu 64 bit version of 6.06 on my P4 ?
[01:56] <chapium> ah
[01:57] <amit> hello
[01:57] <Ash-Fox> newUbU, if your P4 has 64bit extentions, yes.
[01:57] <Ng> newUbU: if it's an EMT64 P4, yes
[01:57] <amit> can i get help?
[01:57] <newUbU> Ng what is EMT64?
[01:57] <chapium> !helpme
[01:57] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:57] <deFrysk> ask
[01:57] <Ng> newUbU: you may well not want to though, things like browser plugins and multimedia codecs are often only available in 32bit
[01:57] <Ng> newUbU: the line of Pentiums with 64bit extensions
[01:57] <amit> what is apache? and what is its use?
[01:57] <newUbU> Ng how can I check if that is the case?
[01:57] <lophyte> amit: its a web server
[01:57] <Ash-Fox> Unless you're using more than 4GB of ram, what is the need to use 64bit?
[01:57] <chapium> amit, I answered you the first time
[01:58] <newUbU> amit it's an webserver you can install it to host websites
[01:58] <amit> thanks
[01:58] <reiki> I know this is kind of a narrow question, but does anyone have sensors (lmsensors) working with an Asus motherboard? I have a P5LD2 and can't seem to figure this out
[01:58] <newUbU> Ash-Fox I happen to have a 64-bit ubuntu CD :)
[01:58] <Ng> Ash-Fox: afaik it allows more/better register access, for one thing, but a desktop machine is typically IO bound, so it's not likely that you'd get to notice the difference
[01:58] <lophyte> newUbU: but its no good without a 64-bit CPU :P
[01:58] <seraphim> reiki:  with my a7n8x its working
[01:58] <amit> ok
[01:59] <amit> locally or on www.
[01:59] <chapium> depends how you configure apache
[01:59] <reiki> seraphim, did you have to fiddle with it? I keep getting "no i2c devices found"
[01:59] <Ash-Fox> Ng, pretty aware of that, hence the reason why I can't really the see the need unless I need more ram ;)
[01:59] <chapium> i think www by default
[01:59] <lophyte> alright
[01:59] <lophyte> time for school
[01:59] <lophyte> later all
[02:00] <amit> recently i have installed APache2,Mysql5,PHP5 and on my system with the help of google?
[02:00] <newUbU> Ash-Fox I think your PC will be much faster if you can access 64-bits in one go, rather than two calls of 32 bits each
[02:00] <fowlduck> it's 7 AM......
[02:00] <amit> i am searching for running egroupware on that syatem?
[02:00] <doctorshim> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 6.06 with XFS, but the installer keeps crashing. Would anybody have run into this before?
[02:00] <seraphim> reiki: no. i just had to add something in /etc/modules
[02:00] <Ash-Fox> amit, 'apt-get install apache2 mysql5 php5' would of done it for you automatically.
[02:00] <amit> what is the processor to configure eGroupWare?
[02:01] <reiki> seraphim, do you recall what that was? I'd love to be able to see temps from linux
[02:01] <newUbU> lophyte how can I check if my Intel P4 processor has 64bit extensions?
[02:01] <Ash-Fox> newUbU cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:01] <reiki> seraphim, or can you point me toward the instructions that helped you get it going?
[02:01] <newUbU> Ash-Fox from windows ?
[02:01] <seraphim> i think it was a i2c-module for the nforce-chipset...
[02:01] <Ash-Fox> newUbU, if you got cygwin, sure.
[02:01] <amit> have u any site address from there I can get complete help?
[02:02] <reiki> seraphim, ok... I think that's what is stopping me. I have in intel 945 board and I'm not sure what "chips" they are talking about in the instructions
[02:02] <amit> from Ubuntu
[02:02] <azcazandco> cwillu: do you know why I cannot run vncserver
[02:03] <azcazandco> it cannto find the command
[02:03] <KJro> jjhi there
[02:03] <KJro> could someone help me setup printing in dapper
[02:03] <Ash-Fox> azcazandco, because it isn't installed
[02:04] <azcazandco> but I just installed it
[02:04] <doctorshim> Does XFS even work with Ubuntu 6.06?
[02:04] <sorush20> when making a package with check install and testing the cvs versions of applications.. how should I add version numbers so that i can install other applications.. ?
[02:04] <Ash-Fox> KJro, it's really easy, just open http://localhost:631/ you will figure out the rest :)
[02:04] <azcazandco> scrap that... I am thikck
[02:05] <KJro> i have a printer on a windows xp machine HP LaserJet 1200     And i want to print from my dapper desktop machine
[02:05] <KJro> couldn't
[02:05] <Ash-Fox> azcazandco, apt-get install vnc4server
[02:05] <KJro> Ash-Fox .... couldnt
[02:05] <Ash-Fox> KJro, install printed services for unix under windows.
[02:05] <azcazandco> i got vncserver
[02:06] <Ash-Fox> *printer services for unix
[02:06] <Ash-Fox> azcazandco, okay, then you have the command.
[02:06] <amit> Ash-Fox* how to install eGroupware and configure it on Ubuntu?
[02:07] <Ash-Fox> apt-get install egroupware ?
[02:07] <Ash-Fox> (assuming that package even exists?)
[02:07] <azcazandco> okay, I managed to start a vnc server, what is the next step to managing that from another machine?
[02:07] <monomaniacpat> how do you know if alsa is set up, how so you install the multimedia system selector?
[02:07] <Ash-Fox> !egroupware
[02:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about egroupware
[02:07] <amit> and about configuration?
[02:07] <Ash-Fox> amit, never messed with egroupware
[02:07] <Ng> amit: you'd be best off reading the official egroupware docs on their homepage for configuration information
[02:07] <KJro> ash... i just instaled my sistem ... you say i need to apt-get install an aditional package (i have samba instaled)
[02:08] <azcazandco> avis: you still about and willing to help?
[02:08] <Ash-Fox> KJro, install 'printing services for unix' under windows.
[02:08] <amit> ok thanks?
[02:08] <KingLear> I came earlier and was guided to a few links regarding upgrade to Dapper from Breezy
[02:08] <monomaniacpat> can someone help me setup the multimedia sys selector?
[02:08] <KingLear> I still have one anomaly remining
[02:08] <KingLear> remaining*
[02:08] <KJro> aaaaaaaaa
[02:09] <KingLear> that is when I run upgrade from update manager, even though i  have mounted the Dapper CD, it starts downloading from the internet
[02:09] <Ash-Fox> KJro, you should be able to under the network card properties in windows, it's the tab where you can enable/disable/install/uninstall different protocols
[02:09] <KingLear> why is it so?
[02:09] <Ash-Fox> KingLear, to stay upto date
[02:10] <amit> Ash-Fox* what about CK-ERP?
[02:10] <KingLear> BUt all 1167 packages need more than one day at dialup, Ash-Fox
[02:10] <Ash-Fox> you can choose not to update at all
[02:10] <KingLear> BUt that wont solve my problem
[02:11] <Ash-Fox> What is your problem?
[02:11] <KingLear> I am talking about upgrading, not updating ,
[02:11] <KingLear> my problem is that,
[02:11] <amit> Ash-Fox* i have a windows system running winproxy How Can I use the proxy on Ubuntu to access internet?
[02:11] <KingLear> Ash-Fox,  I have a Dapper cd Mounted,
[02:11] <KingLear> but the system is behaving as if I have none
[02:11] <KingLear> and starts downloading all packages from internet
[02:12] <KingLear> amit how many clients do u have on that pc?
[02:12] <Ash-Fox> KingLear, did you add the CD as a source?
[02:12] <amit> two one on win98 and other on ubuntu
[02:13] <KingLear> Yes
[02:13] <seamus__> KingLear: add the cd as a repo and maybe remove all the others (making a backup of /etc/apt/sources.list first)
[02:13] <Ash-Fox> KingLear, I suggest you comment out all internet repositories and add your CD as your only source and upgrade from that :)
[02:13] <KingLear> you mean as a repository?
[02:13] <Ash-Fox> Yes, as a repository.
[02:13] <KingLear> I did that as well
[02:13] <KingLear> :)
[02:13] <monomaniacpat> esd is blocking sound on startup, LITTLE HELP!?
[02:13] <Ash-Fox> you disabled all the other internet based sources?
[02:13] <KingLear> no software to upgarde,
[02:13] <KingLear> I deleted all of them
[02:14] <Ash-Fox> I forget the command, is it 'apt-get dist-upgrade'?
[02:14] <Ng> yes
[02:14] <amit> Ash-Fox* what about sharing internet from win system running winproxy to share internet?
[02:14] <KingLear> Yes
[02:14] <Ash-Fox> amit, what about it?
[02:15] <yum> hi all, I try sinc a few hours to get my PDA Fujitsu / Siemens hooked up to Ubuntu (evolution) I installed multisync and synce but I have no idea what to do next.
[02:15] <Ash-Fox> amit, why don't you just use ICS which is built in windows?
[02:15] <amit> ash-fox* how to access internet on ubuntu system from a windows system using winproxy to share internet?
[02:16] <Ash-Fox> amit, set your proxy servers in your applications?
[02:16] <amit> the server is on Windows SBS 2003
[02:16] <KingLear> amit its really easy
[02:16] <amit> Ash-Fox* how to set proxy server in application?
[02:16] <kris_x> has anybody seen the netboot crashing about 1/2 way through
[02:16] <Ash-Fox> amit, the same way you do under windows generally
[02:17] <KingLear> all you have to do is to go to system> preference > Network Proxy and define it
[02:17] <seamus__> amit: export http_proxy=host:port
[02:17] <KingLear> I guess it will be 192.168.0.1
[02:17] <amit> Once earlier i had defined that but I was not able to access internet on Ubuntu?
[02:17] <Ash-Fox> some applications need to be told manually though, because they're stubborn, just like many windows applications.
[02:17] <Ng> KingLear: that's just an http proxy
[02:17] <amit> while fromadsl router connected to switch i am able to brows
[02:18] <Ash-Fox> amit, are you the network administrator?
[02:18] <amit> yes?
[02:18] <Ash-Fox> And you don't know your network's infrastructure?
[02:18] <KingLear> I am talking about LAN, ng
[02:18] <amit> and trying to convert all the systen on UBuntu?
[02:19] <Ng> amit: you probably just need to set the ubuntu machine's network gateway to be the windows machine running winproxy
[02:19] <Ng> but I've not used winproxy before
[02:19] <amit> I am completly new in this field.
[02:19] <Ash-Fox> Neither have I, I don't get why he doesn't just use transparent proxies.
[02:19] <DogBoy> is there a reference somewhere about what I need to install in order to compile things?
[02:19] <amit> ok thanks?
[02:19] <kris_x> has anybody seen the netboot crash at about 1/2 way,
[02:19] <DogBoy> like I went to go and do make, make not installed
[02:20] <monomaniacpat> why is esd blocking sound at startup?
[02:20] <Ash-Fox> amit, first things first. Find out what your windows systems usually use for network settings before configuring anything.
[02:20] <amit> ok then
[02:21] <Ash-Fox> Once you know those settings, we can guide you where to enter them.
[02:22] <Ng> DogBoy: install build-essential, that covers most of the basics
[02:22] <DogBoy> thanks
[02:22] <DogBoy> is that in a faq somewhere?
[02:23] <DogBoy> maybe there's some other stuff there I need to know
[02:23] <ompaul> !compile > DogBoy
[02:23] <Ash-Fox> KingLear, good luck :)
[02:23] <ompaul> DogBoy, check the message from the bot
[02:23] <sorush20> hi would synamptic assume this version number 1.0.14-cvs to be higher than 1.0.14-1
[02:23] <sorush20> synaptic
[02:23] <KingLear> thanx Ash-Fox
[02:23] <Ng> DogBoy: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/programming.html
[02:23] <ompaul> !test
[02:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about test
[02:24] <KingLear> :)
[02:24] <frogzoo> !anything
[02:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything
[02:24] <KingLear> Ash-Fox,  this is what I found
[02:24] <kris_x> has anybody seen the netboot crashing about 1/2 way through?
[02:24] <KingLear> is there a limit on pasting lines here?
[02:24] <Ng> !paste
[02:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:24] <frogzoo> KingLear: anything over 2
[02:25] <cr3> is there a page that describes how to properly file a bug report?
[02:25] <lord_nelson> anyone has a connection problem with gaim since the last ubuntu updates?
[02:25] <Ash-Fox> KingLear, you should do a apt-get update whenever you've modified your sources.list
[02:25] <frogzoo> !launchpad
[02:25] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[02:25] <frogzoo> cr3: it's in your system meu
[02:25] <frogzoo> cr3: it's in your system menu
[02:25] <KingLear> Okay I will do that as well
[02:25] <Ng> !bug > cr3
[02:26] <KingLear> but let me paste that out put for ya
[02:26] <DogBoy> thanks Ng
[02:26] <Ash-Fox> KingLear, if you didn't do it, then the upgrade probably went a little wrong :P
[02:26] <lord_nelson>  anyone has a connection problem with gaim since the last ubuntu updates?
[02:27] <amit> Ash-Fox* amit here
[02:27] <amit> tell me now
[02:27] <Ash-Fox> Oh dear, I feel really sick now *lays down for a bit*
[02:27] <amit> ok
[02:27] <Ash-Fox> yes amit, what is it?
[02:28] <lord_nelson> anyone alive in here?
[02:28] <Ash-Fox> lord_nelson, I use kopete, so can't help =)
[02:28] <amit> class c ip with default subnet? winproxy on the port 80
[02:28] <ompaul> lord_nelson, about 778
[02:28] <Ng> lord_nelson: if nobody is replying then you can assume that we either don't use gaim or haven't seen any problems
[02:29] <Ash-Fox> amit, DHCP?
[02:29] <amit> no dhcp
[02:29] <Ash-Fox> amit, I take it you know how to configure networking, right?
[02:30] <Ash-Fox> amit, the basics that is, ip addresses, dns servers etc?
[02:30] <Gen|G^2> hmmm, looks like im going to have to format again :/
[02:30] <amit> right Ash
[02:30] <amit> yup
[02:31] <Ash-Fox> amit, okay, well, assuming you got the IP networking setup, you just need to access system => preferences => Network Proxy, and enter in there 192.168.0.1 (assuming that's the gateway) and set port 80
[02:31] <kindor> how can i put a desktop icon on all users's desktop, is there some kind of common location like /usr/share/applications ?
[02:32] <Wipster> anyway of getting a gui for grub, a mate has suse and its grb looks funkai, its prely asthetic and pointless butttttttttttttt is it poss?
[02:32] <Ash-Fox> kindor, I can tell you for sure it exists, I just don't know it.
[02:32] <amit> well then Ash
[02:32] <phaedrus44> hey hey...i have run out of cd-r  so i need some advice on how to install ubuntu from a spare partition...?
[02:33] <Sub> Wipster, yes, jus get a grub splsah
[02:33] <Sub> !grub
[02:33] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:33] <Ash-Fox> kindor, I know it exists because when you install a application, the application appears in the menu for all users :)
[02:33] <rambo3> there is grub splashimage package that installs ome xmp files and configures grub
[02:34] <Ash-Fox> amit, yes?
[02:36] <idanimrod> please help me, i just restarted my computer and suddenly my whole /home partition is wiped! and the default wallpaper and sounds are back! is there anyway to recover it?
[02:36] <rambo3> checked lost+found ?
[02:36] <amit> thanks a lot Ash
[02:36] <phaedrus44> anyone?
[02:36] <idanimrod> lost+found in my /home?
[02:36] <idanimrod> or in root?
[02:37] <Ash-Fox> idanimrod, is your /home folder on a different partition?
[02:37] <idanimrod> yes
[02:37] <rambo3>  ls -la /lost+found/
[02:37] <Ash-Fox> idanimrod, check if that partition is mounted.
[02:37] <idanimrod> it is
[02:37] <idanimrod> since i see my home dir
[02:37] <idanimrod> it's just empty
[02:37] <Ash-Fox> Just because the path exists doesn't mean the partition is there
[02:38] <idanimrod> how do i check if it's mounted?
[02:38] <Ash-Fox> 'df'
[02:38] <idanimrod> it's mounted
[02:38] <idanimrod> but it's empty!
[02:38] <Ash-Fox> you see a /home in 'df' ?
[02:39] <idanimrod> yes
[02:39] <kindor> thanks ash
[02:39] <idanimrod> /dev/hda5             65361992    132216  61909544   1% /home
[02:39] <idanimrod> i see it
[02:39] <morphix> how do i change the font size in bash ??
[02:39] <Ash-Fox> what is in /home/lost+found ?
[02:39] <idanimrod> nothing
[02:39] <idanimrod> empty
[02:39] <Douglas77> morphix: Not at all. bash doesn't know about fontsizes.
[02:39] <Ash-Fox> ...
[02:39] <Douglas77> You can change the font size of your gnome-terminal though, do you want to do that?
[02:40] <idanimrod> no
[02:40] <idanimrod> i didn't type anything!
[02:40] <Douglas77> Ash-Fox: If fsck find's broken files, it will put them there. Only necessary if you are using ext2/3
[02:40] <idanimrod> i know what rm does
[02:40] <morphix> Douglas77: no, i know how to, cant i change the framebuffer options in grub??
[02:40] <m6s> Hello people
[02:40] <idanimrod> i just rebooted my computer
[02:40] <idanimrod> and everything was gone!
[02:40] <idanimrod> just like that
[02:40] <m6s> I have a 6.06 64bit, and a hp1100
[02:40] <Douglas77> morphix: Oh, you want to change the fontsize for the texconsole. two ways:
[02:40] <m6s> I got no printing what ever I do
[02:41] <morphix> Douglas77: yes.
[02:41] <phaedrus44> anyone know where I can go to learn how to install from hard drive  (by extracting the iso)?
[02:41] <m6s> is there any tip, why?
[02:41] <Ash-Fox> idanimrod, I have never heard this happening before.
[02:41] <idanimrod> me too :(
[02:41] <idanimrod> that's why i'm so bummed
[02:41] <rambo3> can it be that parition was not unmounted before rebooting and is bussy. reboot agian
[02:41] <idanimrod> oh wait...
[02:41] <Douglas77> 1) change the resolution. look for sth related to vesafb in /usr/src/linux/Documentation (can't remmeber exactly)
[02:41] <idanimrod> i just did
[02:41] <idanimrod> nothing happend
[02:42] <idanimrod> i tried that sled thingy
[02:42] <Douglas77> 2) use a smaller font; change in /etc/console-tools/config
[02:42] <idanimrod> that new control panel, it installed fine, but when i rebooted, everything was gone!
[02:42] <morphix> Douglas77: err... so how do i change the res?
[02:42] <m6s> Any chance for some tip about printing in ubuntu?
[02:42] <Douglas77> morphix: look for sth related to vesafb in /usr/src/linux/Documentation (can't remmeber exactly)
[02:43] <morphix> well thats not too much of great help lol
[02:43] <morphix> there is no /usr/src/linux :P
[02:44] <Douglas77> morphix: oh, ok, I'll have a look.
[02:45] <TTilus> m6s: something like "file -> print -> ok" or?
[02:45] <Douglas77> morphix: try  vga=0x305 (1024x768) or even  vga=0x307
[02:46] <morphix> in what?
[02:46] <TTilus> kernel parameters maybe?
[02:47] <m6s> TTilus, the problem must be cupsys
[02:47] <Gen|G^2> can anone here convince me not to give up on ubuntu and find something else? cause its really getting to me now. the forums arent any help, and no one seems to be able to explain to me whats happening
[02:47] <Farhad> how i can update firefox with apt
[02:47] <morphix> Gen|G^2: like what??
[02:47] <Gen|G^2> i install it, no problems
[02:47] <morphix> Farhad: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[02:47] <Gen|G^2> i lo in, no problems
[02:47] <Douglas77> morphix: in menu.lst
[02:47] <Gen|G^2> i log out, no problems
[02:48] <Gen|G^2> i ry to log back in, and gnome just stops
[02:48] <Surfer> hi
[02:48] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: did you take a look in /var/log/messages ?
[02:48] <Gen|G^2> i get like 5 errors just typing in var/log/messages
[02:48] <Douglas77> Gen|G^2: Is your harddrive full?
[02:48] <Surfer> is there any way to run livecd with kernel form hdd?
[02:48] <Gen|G^2> its a 0gig artition
[02:48] <TTilus> m6s: woops, gotta go now, but...  check ubuntu wiki, cups homepage and then come back here and describe you problem, you dont need to go like "will somebody help me in meta-level-statement", just ask  :)
[02:48] <Gen|G^2> 10*
[02:48] <Farhad> morphix: this command want download all of firefox but i want download only updates
[02:49] <Douglas77> Gen|G^2: btw, whining around is a great way to NOT getting a response...
[02:49] <Ng> Gen|G^2: what are the errors?
[02:49] <m6s> TTilus, bye thank you...
[02:49] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: is there any reason this isn't a hard drive issue?
[02:49] <morphix> Farhad: ah, just updates? apparently u just run firefox under root then update then close.
[02:49] <Gen|G^2> somrhing like "unknown key pressed 1375.76
[02:49] <Ng> hmm
[02:50] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: or a memory/cpu hardware etc. issue? have you run memtest successfully?
[02:50] <Gen|G^2> and theres a whole heap of jargon to either side of that
[02:50] <Gen|G^2> cd check is fine. memtest is fine
[02:50] <cwillu> any apt cache gurus around?  how 'stable' is the /var/cache/apt/ folder structure?  if I change sources.list to a different mirror, does that invalidate the cache?
[02:50] <Douglas77> Anyone here who has succesfully customized an Ubuntu-CD, including _a self-compiled kernel_?
[02:50] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: yeh, your puter sounds pretty sick - I'm guessing hardware - check your memory's firmly seated, & your cables, then run memtest
[02:50] <Trae> If I want to run strace to figure out what's going on in the following command, is this the proper usage?   sudo strace mount myHost:/home/myUser/myFiles myFiles
[02:50] <Farhad> morphix: thx , bye
[02:50] <Ng> cwillu: if you change the sources, the apt cache will need to be rebuilt with an "apt-get update" (or clicking Reload in synaptic)
[02:51] <Douglas77> cwillu: Extremely "stable", its just "all files live in [the dir] /archives, no subdirs"
[02:51] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: better yet, run memtest first, to see if that fails, then tighten all your connection 2 c if that fixes it
[02:51] <Gen|G^2> windows runs perfectly fine
[02:51] <Gen|G^2> and ubuntu runs fine as well, but only the first time
[02:52] <Gen|G^2> it does the same thing, even afer a format/reinstall
[02:52] <GNAM> As widely reported on many Linux news sites, tension between Debian and Ubuntu developers continues to brew underneath the blanket of seemingly peaceful coexistence between the two projects.
[02:52] <cwillu> ng, k, thanks;  I'm doing some ltsp stuff, and trying to avoid redownloading 600 megs over a slow connection
[02:52] <GNAM> (distrowatch)
[02:52] <Gen|G^2> works first time, hangs every other time
[02:52] <Douglas77> Gen|G^2: "unknown key" is also logged if you have any strange "Multimedia"-keys on your keyboard; doesn't matter, nothing bad so far. Check  df  !
[02:52] <Ng> GNAM: #ubuntu-offtopic please, this channel is for support only
[02:52] <GNAM> ok
[02:52] <Ng> cwillu: the packages won't need re-downloading, just the lists from the sources
[02:52] <Ng> cwillu: which is only a few mb
[02:52] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: when ubuntu installs, it puts everything in the same place each time, I'm guessing your gnome settings are failing at the same point each time - this is sooo like a h/w problem
[02:53] <Gen|G^2> but if that were the case, wouldnt gnome crash the first time as well?
[02:53] <Surfer> is there any way to run livecd with kernel form hdd?
[02:53] <Douglas77> Gen|G^2: Try the follwoing: As soon as the error occurs, switch to textconsole (Ctrl-Alt-F1), login with the user, do a  cat .xsession-errors
[02:53] <giant> !ubuntu
[02:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[02:53] <toZth> morphix: do you want to change your resolution?
[02:53] <cwillu> Ng: the ltsp chroot doesn't share the cache, as far as I can tell
[02:53] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: if doze runs no problems, it's possible a bad spot on the drive - however, what speed did you write your cd at? at the cd burners maximum setting or slower?
[02:53] <cwillu> package cache I mean
[02:54] <Douglas77> He would get a lot of HDD-related errors in syslog/dmesg if the HDD is bad...
[02:54] <Ng> cwillu: you can seed it by copying in /var/cache/apt/archives over - that's where it keeps the packages
[02:54] <Gen|G^2> max i guess, but i ran a cd check twice, no errors
[02:54] <Ng> cwillu: or you could use apt-proxy on a server for all of the clients to get their packages from
[02:54] <Ash-Fox> Well, Debian and the buntu distros have different goals anyway.
[02:54] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: just maybe, try burning again at 50% speed & see
[02:54] <cwillu> Ng: I did that, seems to be acting weird then, or the package cache has been flushed or something
[02:55] <Ng> cwillu: have you done an apt-get update on the client/chroot?
[02:55] <morphix> toZth: i want to change the resolution/font in text mode only.
[02:55] <Douglas77> Gen|G^2: or, as soon as the error occurs, login at textconsole, do  ls -ltra  to find the loast modified file (most likely some logfile), and have a look
[02:55] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: this is definately not broken in any of the normal ways of brokenness
[02:56] <cwillu> wanted to download 390 mb, and I really don't want to do that over a 10kb connection :)
[02:56] <cwillu> yes
[02:56] <cwillu> (thanks btw, I'm doing weird stuff and appreciate any help I can get :)
[02:56] <Douglas77> frogzoo: Please #define "normal way of brokenness" *G*
[02:56] <Ash-Fox> morphix look into vesa modes that you can pass to the kernel
[02:56] <Gen|G^2> i just dont undersand why it works the first time bu never again :/
[02:56] <cwillu> I just changed the chroot'd sources.list to be the same as the main one, and reupdating (was a different mirror before, dunno if that makes any difference though)
[02:56] <Douglas77> Ash-Fox: I already told him to supply   vga=0x305  :)
[02:56] <Ash-Fox> ah, didn't see
[02:56] <morphix> Ash-Fox: i know its vesa modes.. but i dont know WHERE to find info about it
[02:57] <Douglas77> Gen|G^2: Try to find out why it doesn't work, not "why it worked some other time".
[02:57] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: first time you log in, gnome sets up a bunch of stuff, and maybe it's writing crap settings, you reboot, gnome reads the crap settings & spews
[02:57] <Douglas77> morphix: in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/. If you don't have it, install the Kernel Source
[02:57] <h2> does anyone know where i can get info about remote x11 logins in ubuntu?
[02:58] <giant> ubuntu or kubuntu, which is better?
[02:58] <morphix> Douglas77: i have kernel headers installed.
[02:58] <Douglas77> h2: Here?
[02:58] <Ng> giant: whichever you prefer :)
[02:58] <SonicChao> giant: depends on what you mean by 'better' :D
[02:58] <Douglas77> morphix: so?
[02:58] <morphix> Douglas77: i dont want to install kernel source just to view a document :/
[02:58] <h2> Douglas77, hehe should've seen that coming
[02:58] <Gen|G^2> ok,i have notepad open, give me a list of all the commands you want me to type into the terminal
[02:58] <giant> :) thought so
[02:58] <SonicChao> giant: go for Kubuntu :)
[02:58] <Douglas77> h2: :)
[02:58] <giant> lol
[02:58] <Ng> giant: the only difference is that ubuntu uses Gnome and kubuntu uses KDE. I would suggest you try both and go with whichever you like more
[02:58] <SonicChao> giant: if you're new, it uses KDE, which is good for beginners, I think
[02:58] <frogzoo> h2: maybe.... http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/
[02:58] <SonicChao> giant: Or download Ubuntu, and do this:
[02:58] <giant> have already installed ubuntu
[02:58] <SonicChao> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:59] <Douglas77> morphix: kernelhq.org might give you a single file, iirc
[02:59] <SonicChao> giant: That way, you can have both. :D
[02:59] <snoops> it's more than just kde or gnome, it's also the desktop applications included with that
[02:59] <giant> how to toggle between them?
[02:59] <cwillu> h2: what are you trying to do?
[02:59] <cwillu> (it's fun stuff :))
[02:59] <SonicChao> giant: From "Options"..."Select Session...", "KDE"
[02:59] <h2> what i have is an 2ghz ubuntu server and a crappy 450mhz p2 and i was wondering if and how i can use the server to do all the processing etc and send it to the p2
[02:59] <SonicChao> giant: And click ok, then log in
[02:59] <giant> owkay, thx everybody
[02:59] <SonicChao> giant: Options is at the log-in screen
[02:59] <SonicChao> :)
[02:59] <Ng> snoops: in saying "gnome" I mean "the infrastructure and applications gnome.org releases and associated programs"
[02:59] <giant> :) yeah yeah
[03:00] <snoops> of course you still can install all the apps from either, but eg on a gnome install, and you want a kde app, it'll need the kde libs which can be downloaded for ya anyway
[03:00] <morphix> h2: u could run a terminal server on server machine
[03:00] <Douglas77> Gen|G^2: ls -ltra   to find the last modifed file
[03:00] <cwillu> h2: ahh, so many ways you could do it :)
[03:00] <frogzoo> h2: no maybes about it - a 450MHz PII would make a kick ass xterminal
[03:00] <Douglas77> Gen|G^2: cat [the name of this file]    to see it
[03:00] <SonicChao> giant: but first you have to open Terminal and "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[03:00] <SonicChao> :)
[03:00] <cwillu> h2: did you still want to run programs on the crappy computer, at the same time as the big one?
[03:00] <Douglas77> Gen|G^2: It should be .gnome-errors or sth like that
[03:00] <giant> SonicChao, i know
[03:00] <Gen|G^2> ok
[03:00] <SonicChao> giant: k
[03:00] <Gen|G^2> ill try now
[03:00] <cwillu> hell, I've got 450's that are acting as actual workstations :p
[03:01] <h2> cwillu: hehe, i've got it just sitting here doign nothing
[03:01] <h2> cwillu: i dont really want other programs running on it
[03:01] <cwillu> gotta love it when the apt-get _update_ takes 10 minutes
[03:01] <Douglas77> h2: xdmcp is definitely the way to go then :)
[03:02] <cwillu> h2: trusted network?
[03:02] <h2> Douglas77: ok thanks, any ubuntu specific howtos ?
[03:02] <h2> cwillu: pardon?
[03:03] <Douglas77> h2: Use the howto wwhich frogzoo recommended. Only Ubuntu-Tip: In gdm, Action->Configure, activate xdmcp :)
[03:03] <Gen|G^2> ok restarting
[03:03] <cwillu> xdmcp isn't really secure, so if you don't trust your network...
[03:03] <Gen|G^2> loading up...
[03:03] <cwillu> but if you do (and most people would), xdmcp would work fine
[03:04] <Gen|G^2> hmmm
[03:04] <Douglas77> ok guys/girls, gtg, bye!
[03:04] <SonicChao> juztin: Hi...remember me? XD
[03:04] <Gen|G^2> it logged in fine hat time
[03:04] <SonicChao> Douglas77: bye
[03:04] <tdn> Hi. I have this problem that my Ubuntu box cannot decide which network it wants to be on. This is really annoying. In Network Settings I have disabled the Wireless connection and enabled my ethernet connection and selected Default gateway device = eth0 (my ethernet). Still sometimes the wireless connects to my neighbours open wlan.
[03:04] <juztin> SonicChao, yup...how ya doin :)
[03:04] <Gen|G^2> maybe i need to swich xp to cause the error
[03:04] <cwillu> h2:  hell, you could set up a netboot on it if you want :)
[03:04] <SonicChao> juztin: Really good...
[03:04] <SonicChao> juztin: I broke my install with all those DEs
[03:04] <SonicChao> XD
[03:04] <juztin> lol
[03:05] <SonicChao> juztin: But came to what one I thought was best
[03:05] <juztin> SonicChao, excellent :)
[03:05] <Douglas77> hi! Do you know how to customize a Ubuntu-ISO so it uses a self-compiled kernel? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e10 doesn't talk about that...
[03:06] <h2> cwillu: oh ok, its only a local home network so nothign ot worry abotu :)
[03:06] <Douglas77> SonicChao: ratpoison?
[03:06] <kindor> he ash, do you know any application that installs an icon on everyone's desktop?
[03:06] <SonicChao> juztin: I liked XFCE...I use it as a secondary enviroment to my GNOME and KDE...I use it when I keep the computer on, because it'll burn with these fans with a big DE
[03:06] <SonicChao> juztin: Oh, and the worst one was Enlightenment. :D
[03:06] <juztin> SonicChao, i'm using KDE myself...i used to only use fluxbox, but i'm learning my way around KDE right now.
[03:07] <juztin> SonicChao, really?  i've heard a lot of good things about E17
[03:07] <kindor> they seem only to install in the menustructure
[03:07] <SonicChao> juztin: I donno...I didn't like it very much.
[03:08] <juztin> SonicChao, i've never tried it....what's it like?  isn't it a lot of widgets and eye candy stuff?
[03:08] <SonicChao> juztin: Useless eyecandy...difficult for new users...and the tutorials are long and never get to the point.
[03:08] <SonicChao> juztin: And when your mouse is still on the desktop, sometimes a dialog box will appear telling you how to click, and what each button does
[03:09] <juztin> SonicChao, ugh.....
[03:09] <m6s> Why when I execute something which must be run as root, and enter the password at the box, the identification always fails?
[03:09] <juztin> SonicChao, how to click...lol
[03:09] <SonicChao> juztin: Reminds me of Microsoft BOB. XD
[03:09] <juztin> SonicChao, BOB?
[03:09] <SonicChao> juztin: It was a failed MS system...
[03:09] <juztin> SonicChao, how long ago?
[03:10] <SonicChao> juztin: Started by Bill Gates' wife
[03:10] <SonicChao> juztin: A while ago
[03:10] <juztin> SonicChao, no way lol
[03:10] <cwillu> m6s: are you typing your password, or are you typing a root password that you set?
[03:10] <SonicChao> juztin: Let me get the wikipedia article
[03:10] <SonicChao> juztin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bob
[03:10] <cwillu> heh;  the xp search puppy is a throughback to that actually
[03:10] <gnomefreak> SonicChao: and juztin can you guys please move this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:11] <juztin> gnomefreak, yeah sorry lol
[03:11] <SonicChao> gnomefreak: oops..sorry. k
[03:11] <cwillu> throw
[03:11] <gnomefreak> ty
[03:11] <exclipy> would anyone be able to help me with getting my bluetooth file transfer to work between my laptop and phone?
[03:11] <Gen|G^2> oh you gotta be kidding me, its working now :/
[03:11] <dmitri> hello, i am trying to take ownership of a folder with sudo chown -R username folder. It says operation not permitted. What should I do to change this?
[03:12] <Gen|G^2> took 3 formats, but it seems to not crash anymore
[03:12] <Sub> dmitri, do a "sudo -i" then run "chown -R username folder"
[03:12] <Sub> se eif that helps
[03:12] <ivalladt> brand new ubuntu dapper drake installed, using postfix I am being unable to make outgoing mail through an smtp smarthost which request auth, error 535 always returned by the smarthost, any pointers?
[03:12] <toZth> morphix: http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/hiresconsole.html
[03:13] <Trae> Could someone take a look at this post and tell me why NFS is hanging on me when trying to mount a remote dir?  It ultimately mounts, it just hangs...    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1236509#post1236509
[03:13] <dmitri> Sub: still, operation not permitted
[03:13] <exclipy> hcitool doesn't detect my bluetooth device on my Dell Inspiron 8600 laptop - anyone have any ideas?
[03:13] <Ng> Trae: most likely hanging, but succeeding network services are DNS related
[03:13] <Douglas77> ivalladt: Maybe you need SMTP AUTH? no idea how to do this with postfix, but maybe it's enough to google :)
[03:14] <Gen|G^2> bah, now i need to get this network card working lol
[03:14] <Ng> Trae: like, it'll be trying to do a reverse IP lookup. Try adding entries to the /etc/hosts file for both client and server on both ends
[03:14] <Trae> Ng, nod, as I state in the post, I put in a entry for the other box.
[03:14] <Trae> Ng, nod, heh
[03:14] <Douglas77> Trae: Is portmap running on both machines? Also, I had this problem once when lockd wasn't running
[03:14] <Trae> hmm
[03:14] <[daan] > hello, i need some help
[03:14] <Trae> Douglas77, only have it running on the remote box.
[03:15] <[daan] > i excluded myself from the sudoers file and now im stuck, any way to solve this ?
[03:15] <Douglas77> Trae: Which one? portmap or lockd? portmap should run on both
[03:15] <cwillu> [daan] : need to boot up in safe mode
[03:15] <Trae> Douglas77, let me check for lockd
[03:15] <Douglas77> daan: In grub, do [e]  for edit.
[03:15] <Douglas77> Trae: rpcinfo -p
[03:15] <cwillu> !safe > cwillu
[03:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about safe
[03:16] <dmitri> Sub: it gave me the same message
[03:16] <cwillu> !search safe
[03:16] <ubotu> Found: ubuntu-desktop, dri, fuse, telnet
[03:16] <[daan] > ok, and then i can use su ?
[03:16] <Lobster> [daan] , can't you open a su-terminal?
[03:16] <Trae> rpcinfo: can't contact portmapper: RPC: Remote system error - Connection refused
[03:16] <Douglas77> daan: add   init=/bin/bash  to the kernel-line
[03:16] <cwillu> [daan] : no, it logs you in as root with no password actually :)
[03:16] <Sub> dmitri, not sure then
[03:16] <Trae> Douglas77, that's on the local machine in which I'm trying to mount the remote dir
[03:17] <Trae> Douglas77, should I apt-get install portmap lockd ? heh
[03:17] <riotingP> how do i unzip .exe files
[03:17] <Douglas77> daan: then, boot with [b] , then   mount -o rw,remount /; passwd; mount -o ro,remount /; sync    then just RESET
[03:17] <dmitri> Sub: ok thanks. could it be that it is a mounted fat32 partition
[03:17] <Ng> riotingP: if the .ext file is actually a self extracting .zip then "unzip" should do the trick
[03:17] <Douglas77> Trae: It's in nfs-common  iirc
[03:17] <frogzoo> riotingP: would you believe..... unzip ??
[03:18] <[daan] > ok, thnx peeps
[03:18] <Trae> Douglas77, didn't know you needed NFS to be installed on the local system you wish to mount things to
[03:18] <Douglas77> daan: Was that too complicated?
[03:18] <[daan] > hehe
[03:18] <Douglas77> Trae: The nfs-client needs to be installed. :)
[03:18] <Trae> Douglas77, as I said, I can mount it locally, it just hangs... for about 2-3 mins
[03:18] <Trae> ok
[03:18] <Trae> got that done
[03:18] <Trae> let me try again
[03:18] <[daan] > Douglas77: no, i think ill manage
[03:19] <riotingP> erm how do i unzip, when i click on the item it only has open with wine or another ap as options
[03:19] <[daan] > cya and thanks to all
[03:19] <Douglas77> Trae: Any better now?
[03:19] <frogzoo> riotingP: you should install pkg 'unzip' if you haven't got /usr/bin/unzip
[03:19] <Trae> Douglas77, hah
[03:19] <Trae> Douglas77, spank my arse and call me charlie
[03:20] <Trae> Douglas77, ;) yes, that worked
[03:20] <Trae> freaky deaky
[03:20] <caturOK> hm
[03:20] <Douglas77> Trae: Great :) gtg, have phun
[03:20] <frogzoo> which way did charlie go?
[03:20] <Trae> ok... all I did was apt-get install portmap and nfs-common on the local machine
[03:20] <Trae> heh
[03:20] <Trae> awww, he left without being able to thank him
[03:23] <maxxx> is it a bad thing to have an smp kernel on my single cpu box?
[03:23] <webben> hmm why is ubuntu treating an @ sign (char 64) received over synergy as U+03A9
[03:23] <gioacchino> hello
[03:24] <gioacchino>  how to block a cracked program with http autentication ?
[03:24] <rixxon> gioacchino: use good passwords
[03:24] <gioacchino> with cml spy dont exist good password ...
[03:24] <rixxon> i don't know what that is
[03:24] <gioacchino> xml spy
[03:25] <Ash-Fox> use HTTPS
[03:25] <ruxpin^> where should I add my startup scripts?
[03:25] <Ash-Fox> http authentication is just converting the username and password to mime64
[03:25] <gioacchino> it check the serial at HlinkSimpleNavigateToString L"http://link.altova.com/keyinfo.asp?u=                                                                                                   gioacchino&c=EMBRACE&e=&k=196Y29C-1P74CCC-1JMHL11-2FFT22C-96YTPY1&p=XS&ed=P&mj=8                                                                                                   &mn=3&bd=May%2031%202006&s=&lang=English&os=Windows%202000%20Service%
[03:25] <gioacchino>                                                         dns=localhost&udn=root&guid=67309f10-1012-11db-c687-00e07de8ac4a&gsrc=r05&ec=Wro                                                                                                   ngEdition
[03:25] <gioacchino> with http protocol
[03:26] <kindor> wtd
[03:26] <gioacchino> how to block it but not block firefox konqueror and othe program with http protocol ??
[03:26] <rixxon> gioacchino: i don't quite get you, what do you mean?
[03:27] <rixxon> block what, exactly
[03:27] <gioacchino> I use xml spy with wine
[03:27] <finalbeta> How exactly do new packages get inside the ubuntu repositories? Becasue some packages are over 4 years old. New stable builds should be available.
[03:27] <Ash-Fox> gioacchino, I use ettercap.
[03:27] <frogzoo> gioacchino: i guess  you want to block certain web traffic with a given signature, but not others?
[03:27] <rixxon> gioacchino: you want to blacklist certain user-agents? or possible whitelist known browsers
[03:28] <conhe> who to atualization of my kernel ?
[03:28] <mortal> ?
[03:28] <gioacchino> I wont block one program not a port
[03:28] <Ng> finalbeta: once a stable release is out, new versions generally don't get into it. Otherwise there are some procedures for getting things into a development version
[03:29] <conhe> i want update my kernel !
[03:29] <conhe> i dont know do it
[03:29] <rixxon> gioacchino: check the cgi variable HTTP_USER_AGENT
[03:29] <Ash-Fox> gioacchino, you could uninstall the program
[03:29] <rixxon> gioacchino: note that it can be faked
[03:30] <gioacchino> [15:29]  <Ash-Fox> gioacchino, you could uninstall the program  no
[03:30] <rixxon> Ash-Fox: i'm not sure, but i think he's having problems with people trying to brute force his service?
[03:30] <frogzoo> gioacchino: but this program uses port 80, correct?
[03:30] <Ash-Fox> He's not making much sense to me.
[03:30] <rixxon> not to me either ...
[03:30] <gioacchino> it use http
[03:31] <gioacchino> i dont know the port
[03:31] <Ng> gioacchino: it might be a good idea to give some more information about exactly what you are wanting to do
[03:31] <gioacchino> I suppose 80..
[03:31] <Ng> also, did you paste a windows licence key earlier? ;o
[03:31] <finalbeta> Ng, for exaple Lirc (ir software) has 7.1 inside apt. But build 8 (stable) is out, over 4 years later. So you are saying normally they wouldn't add that one?
[03:31] <rixxon> gioacchino: for starters, define your actual problem (not the solution you think you need)
[03:32] <Ng> finalbeta: lirc is in universe, which is stuff sync'd from debian, so chances are it's debian that needs to include the newer version. it may be that nobody noticed - lirc doesn't exactly see active development ;)
[03:32] <kuzmaster> hello all
[03:32] <rixxon> hi
[03:32] <kuzmaster> !den
[03:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about den
[03:32] <kuzmaster> !deb
[03:32] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[03:33] <kuzmaster> !adept
[03:33] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:33] <kuzmaster> !apt-get
[03:33] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto - also see !synaptic (gnome) or !adept (kde)
[03:33] <gioacchino> rixxon:  1) I had xmlspy 2006 rel 3 ( a xml testual editor for windows ) cracked
[03:33] <gioacchino> 2) I use it with wine
[03:33] <edan> howdy all
[03:34] <rixxon> gioacchino: are you using cracked software? or what do you mean?
[03:34] <edan> is it possible to get fullscreen maximize in Gnome?
[03:34] <rixxon> edan: in certain programs yes, try F11 or look around in the menus
[03:34] <kuzmaster> how do i install google earth beta on ubuntu
[03:34] <gioacchino> 3) the serial is ok but it verify online via http
[03:34] <kuzmaster> i have downloaded th .bin, and i dont know what to do with it
[03:34] <frogzoo> gioacchino: maybe something like this? http://www.copfilter.org/
[03:34] <edan> rixxon: I'm talking about the same method Windows uses
[03:35] <rixxon> edan: i don't know about no fullscreen maximize in windows
[03:35] <edan> cos in gnome, it just resizes the window and sticks it to the border. i.e. I can easily pull and move it around
[03:35] <rixxon> edan: normal maximization is achieved with the maximize button (or alt+f10)
[03:35] <gioacchino> gioacchino: are you using cracked software? yes the serial is false...
[03:35] <edan> that's not Windows-style maximize tho. that's Mac-style
[03:35] <rixxon> edan: so don't move it around ;)
[03:35] <edan> hehe
[03:35] <Ash-Fox> mac style is zoom
[03:36] <Ash-Fox> mac doesn't have maximize.
[03:36] <edan> so basically, the answer is just plain no?
[03:36] <rixxon> edan: i wouldn't call myself an expert, so i wouldn't say plain no.
[03:36] <gioacchino> [15:34]  <frogzoo> gioacchino: maybe something like this? no xmlspy is a testual xml and other programing language editor
[03:37] <conhe> !kernel
[03:37] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:37] <rixxon> xmlspy is an ide for developing xml rpc's
[03:37] <conhe> !kernel update
[03:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about kernel update
[03:37] <johnccc> how do I stop linux from starting x at boot time? Without going into X?
[03:37] <frogzoo> gioacchino: that's got nothing to do with filtering http....
[03:38] <azcazandco> can anyone tell me how to set the ip of this machine to a static one?
[03:38] <azcazandco> i want it as static so i can vnc into it
[03:38] <gioacchino> how to block it ??
[03:38] <frogzoo> azcazandco: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[03:39] <Ash-Fox> ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.4 up ?
[03:39] <frogzoo> azcazandco: but only your isp can give you a static internet ip address
[03:39] <gioacchino> I want block xmlspy with the firewall
[03:39] <azcazandco> nah I just want it internally this machine is going to be my local web server
[03:39] <LazyBee> join #ubuntu-indonesia
[03:39] <gioacchino> on windows I use it with zone alarm
[03:40] <frogzoo> azcazandco: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[03:40] <kuzmaster> how do i install google earth beta on ubuntu
[03:40] <azcazandco> okay I am in there
[03:40] <Ng> gioacchino: you either need to create a firewall rule to block traffic to the verification site, or give it a fake DNS lookup with /etc/hosts, but I'm not especially interested in helping you steal software ;)
[03:40] <frogzoo> gioacchino: maybe something like this? http://www.copfilter.org/ (man peeps ask for help & ignore replies)
[03:41] <azcazandco> frogzoo: how would I change it to 192.168.100.100 for example?
[03:41] <rixxon> gioacchino: so you want to block xmlspy, but not the webserver itself?
[03:41] <frogzoo> azcazandco: have you looked in that file? do so
[03:41] <azcazandco> yes
[03:41] <frogzoo> azcazandco: man interfaces
[03:41] <Ng> kuzmaster: open a terminal, run "chmod +x /wherever/foo.bin" then "sudo /wherever/foo.bin" (replacing "wherever" with the full path to where you downloaded it, and "foo" with the correct package name)
[03:42] <azcazandco> k
[03:42] <giant> does anybody know a decent opengl channel?
[03:42] <Ng> rixxon: he wants to block xmlspy's attempts to verify its key, because he's using a fake serial number
[03:42] <TellBot> Welcome LazyBee, if you want to pass on a message to anyone just type 'tell <nick> message' and I will pass it on
[03:42] <gioacchino> yes I want block xml spy but no the other app
[03:42] <TellBot> Welcome raphink, if you want to pass on a message to anyone just type 'tell <nick> message' and I will pass it on
[03:42] <mc__> giant, #opengl
[03:42] <TellBot> Welcome eminux, if you want to pass on a message to anyone just type 'tell <nick> message' and I will pass it on
[03:43] <frogzoo> someone kill the bot...
[03:43] <Ng> seamus__: could you stop that please
[03:43] <gioacchino> [15:41]  <frogzoo> gioacchino: maybe something like this? http://www.copfilter.org/ (man peeps ask for help & ignore replies)  frogzoo:  it is a firewall ??
[03:43] <kindor> haha
[03:43] <azcazandco> frogzoo: is there a gui for such things?  I am likely to cause damage :(
[03:43] <raphink> oh this bot needs to be killed
[03:43] <giant> no other channels for opengl mc__
[03:43] <m6s> Can I make a downgrade only of cupsys?
[03:43] <m6s> and screw up the whole system?
[03:43] <rixxon> gioacchino: the purpose of this channel is not to help with cracked software ....
[03:43] <m6s> not screw it :-)
[03:44] <mc__> giant, maybe in efnet there is also one
[03:44] <Ash-Fox> Speaking of piracy, one of the local universities here blackholed microsoft.com because they kept getting too many calls at the tech support center from people complaining about microsoft's wga stuff popping up :P
[03:44] <gioacchino> gioacchino: the purpose of this channel is not to help with cracked software .... the problem is : not exist a editor for linux  with the funxtion of xml spy...
[03:45] <giant> thx mc__
[03:45] <mc__> giant, i live to serve
[03:45] <Ng> gioacchino: that is no excuse for pirating software, plus you already admitted that you used it on windows too
[03:45] <lopzided> are there advantages to compiling an application rather than instaling it with a binary?
[03:45] <mc__> lopzided, it might be faster
[03:46] <lopzided> mc__, the install or the program's performance?
[03:46] <LjL> lopzided: no, unless it's a newer version with features or fixes that you really need
[03:46] <mc__> lopzided, and you can compile it with special flags you need
[03:46] <LjL> lopzided: the program's performance. very marginally.
[03:46] <mc__> lophyte, the programms performance
[03:46] <mjr> lopzided, customizing for your needs. Though really you don't usually want to do that, the benefits are rather... marginal
[03:46] <mc__> lopzided, but the install will dake A LOT longer
[03:46] <lopzided> so what you're all saying...is it's not a big enough difference to worry about? :P
[03:46] <mc__> on my PC Xorg(which is a beast) takes nearly 2 days
[03:47] <wildez> hey
[03:47] <mc__> lopzided, if you really need some more power
[03:47] <mc__> lopzided, for some programcs it can make sense
[03:47] <wildez> how i install a file .deb
[03:47] <deFrysk> lopzided, your ego might tell you differently
[03:47] <k1piee> hi
[03:47] <mc__> lopzided, things like mplyer,Xorg or the Kernel
[03:47] <finalbeta> !bandwidthmonitor
[03:47] <zerod> hey
[03:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about bandwidthmonitor
[03:47] <LjL> lopzided: oh yes, it *is* a bit difference to worry about: without a package, dependencies won't be managed automatically, which means the program will break sooner or later when one of its dependencies will get removed for some reason. not to mention the time taken to find and install the right compile deps, and the space they take up.
[03:47] <mc__> wildez, dpkg -i
[03:48] <lopzided> mc__, well i'm running a p4 2gig, but its only got 256mb ram....i thought i might reinstall some of my multimedia apps
[03:48] <LjL> wildez: you can use gdebi
[03:48] <mc__> lopzided, most optimitions in speed cause a higher use of memory
[03:48] <finalbeta> :p , anyone knows a good bandwidthmonitor for me? per program, how much bandwidth, connecting to where, how many connections etc. bit like netlimiter under windows
[03:48] <finalbeta> (gui)
[03:48] <kuzmaster> ng, thanx
[03:48] <LjL> wildez: however, be warned that a .deb that is not explicitely made for Ubuntu may not work or cause problems.
[03:48] <k1piee> good
[03:49] <zerod> I'll think about it
[03:50] <myggan> if a fresh installation of the latest ubuntu can't find the internet connection (it did once but dissapeared just as quick), what would be the most probable cause?
[03:51] <Live42day> whats the difference between alterbnate and desktop version at the download site
[03:51] <samuli> alternate is text-mode install.
[03:51] <Trusughe> hello
[03:51] <Ash-Fox> alternate has lazers!
[03:51] <Trusughe> i want download the iso of ubuntu
[03:51] <Trusughe> but i do not know what download
[03:51] <Trusughe> ther are 3 version
[03:51] <Trusughe> Desktop install CD
[03:51] <Ash-Fox> Trusughe, desktop :)
[03:51] <Trusughe> Server Install CD
[03:51] <giant> what is iirc, Ash-Fox?
[03:52] <Trusughe> Alternate Install CD
[03:52] <iamcitizen> hi. i had a bunch of problems with artwiz-cursor and xcursor-themes, and now i can't start x. i get an error that says "could not open default cursor font 'cursor'"
[03:52] <deFrysk> if I recall correctly
[03:52] <Trusughe> Deskstop is the standard-classic version?
[03:52] <giant> thx deFrysk!
[03:52] <deFrysk> or remember
[03:52] <finalbeta> GUI linux bandwidth monitor? Anyone?
[03:52] <Ng> Trusughe: desktop install cd is a live cd and installer in one thing. you want that unless you are making a server or want the alternate, old style text install
[03:53] <Live42day> oh ok so alternate is old style like breezy i m use to this one
[03:53] <deFrysk> finalbeta, try gnome-system-monitor
[03:53] <Gullstad> how logoff a user by using therminal.
[03:54] <deFrysk> Gullstad, ctrl-alt-backspace ?
[03:54] <finalbeta> deFrysk, that shows nothing but total used bandwidth.
[03:55] <deFrysk> finalbeta, best i can think of
[03:55] <Gullstad> deFrysk: Whit therminal
[03:55] <Gullstad> deFrysk: Not restart XServ
[03:55] <snoops> how can I find out what speed my network card connected to my switch at? (ifconfig doesn't tell you)
[03:55] <Ng> snoops: ethtool or mii-tool
[03:55] <snoops> thanks
[03:56] <Gullstad> How desellect using kayboard in GIMP
[03:57] <lopzided> Gullstad, shift-ctrl-a
[03:57] <finalbeta> any descend bandwidth monitor, commandline then?
[03:57] <Cntryboy26> how can I go about getting firestarter and a howto for a noob on setting it up?
[03:57] <frogzoo> finalbeta: iftop ?
[03:57] <kuzmaster> hello all, is it possible to get this window theme for ubuntu
[03:57] <kuzmaster> http://www.flickr.com/photos/whiprush/96056531/
[03:57] <per> Hi, my problem is about USB-HDD drive,
[03:57] <per> at sysAdmin=>disks, it shows partition 1 is at /media/sda1
[03:57] <per> but it is not accessable
[03:57] <per> I logged in as root, still the USB-drive is a read only drive, it was working ok 20 hours ago
[03:57] <kuzmaster> the one thats in that pic
[03:57] <Ng> finalbeta: iptraf is quite handy
[03:58] <finalbeta> ke, i'll try those, thnx
[03:58] <lopzided> kuzmaster, http://www.fs-security.com/docs/installation.php ?
[03:58] <lopzided> kuzmaster, sorry
[03:58] <lopzided> kuzmaster, wrong person
[03:58] <lopzided> Cntryboy26, http://www.fs-security.com/docs/installation.php
[03:58] <kuzmaster> lopzided, lol, i do that all the time
[03:59] <lopzided> :P
[03:59] <Cntryboy26> k thx
[03:59] <lopzided> Cntryboy26, np :)
[03:59] <Gen|G^2> ok, so im trying to copy some files into my etc folder but it wont let me, any ideas?
[03:59] <lopzided> Gen|G^2, use sudo
[03:59] <kuzmaster> Gen|G^2, do it as root
[03:59] <LjL> !tell Gen|G^2 about sudo
[03:59] <LjL> !tell Gen|G^2 about cli
[04:00] <deFrysk> what files ?
[04:00] <samuli> Gen|G^2, you need to use sudo, but why are you copying something there?
[04:00] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: user files don't belong on /etc
[04:01] <per> a usb drive became only root accessable, but root can not change it's read-only status
[04:01] <deFrysk> userfiles usually belong in /home/username
[04:01] <kuzmaster> is there a widget program for ubuntu like konfabulator (yahoo widgets)
[04:01] <Cntryboy26> firestarter does work ok with kde gui right?
[04:01] <Cntryboy26> or is it made for gnome?
[04:01] <per> anybody has some basic sugestion?
[04:02] <lopzided> per, what fs is your usb drive?
[04:02] <mc__> Cntryboy26, gnome things also should wokr with kde and vica-verca
[04:02] <Trusughe> ubuntu desktop CD, check the hardware and configure the system considering my hardware ????
[04:02] <Cntryboy26> mc__: mostly, but i've found some things that wouldn't.. but okay thx
[04:02] <per> lopzided, it is NTFS
[04:03] <Gen|G^2> i following an insltion guide for my wireles card and says to extract these files and put them into the wpa_supplicant folder
[04:03] <deFrysk> per, not something to write to in linux
[04:03] <lopzided> per, thats why ..
[04:03] <Gen|G^2> and damn i hate laptop keyboards
[04:04] <kukilan> hi
[04:04] <per> eh..which means? I should have some NTFS-linux-interface downloaded from repositories?
[04:04] <kukilan> amsn_0.95-3.ubuntu.deb
[04:04] <lopzided> per, nah, you should format it as FAT32 if you want to share it between windows and linux
[04:04] <kukilan> for install ?
[04:04] <deFrysk> per, it means better not write to ntfs file systems
[04:05] <per> Oh, I see, how about fat32?
[04:05] <kukilan> amsn_0.95-3.ubuntu.deb for install ?
[04:05] <deFrysk> per, that should be ok as lopzided said
[04:05] <kukilan> at the moment in /home
[04:05] <snoops> I just use the ext3 driver for windows when I want to share between them
[04:05] <per> I see , I will get down to it
[04:06] <per> thanks guys
[04:06] <lopzided> np :)
[04:06] <Ng> kukilan: you can just do "sudo apt-get install amsn" - it's included in the ubuntu universe repository, you don't need to download a .deb from anywhere
[04:07] <frogzoo> snoops: seems best 2 me
[04:07] <lopzided> is amsn multiprotocol, or just msn?
[04:07] <Ignite_> just msn
[04:07] <snoops> frogzoo, definitely - I couldn't stand fat32 when windows used it, can't stand it now
[04:07] <lopzided> ah ok
[04:07] <mrbojanglie> arrrhhhh!!!! help!
[04:08] <giant> gaim is better
[04:08] <Cedrics> hi! this is my first time installing ubuntu x86_64... and the first time installing it while being in raid (STRIPPIN) do i need any driver disk before launching the installation..i plan on having windows out of the pc so it be ubuntu only
[04:08] <lopzided> mrbojanglie, what's wrong? :D
[04:08] <mrbojanglie> just installed ati driver and screen has gone crazy
[04:08] <mrbojanglie> completely unusable
[04:08] <lopzided> mrbojanglie, how did you install it?
[04:08] <Ng> Cedrics: you ought to be able to set up software raid from within the installer, without additional driver disks
[04:08] <snoops> which ati card and yeah how did you install it?
[04:08] <mrbojanglie> i tried a manual install
[04:08] <mrbojanglie> but the module could not be built
[04:08] <giant> mrbojanglie, i had also that problem, try new beta drivers
[04:08] <mrbojanglie> so i used apt
[04:09] <lopzided> mrbojanglie, did you follow these instructions? http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[04:09] <Cedrics> Ng i will be able without driver disk is this what u meant
[04:09] <dustinpn> How do I get rid of the wine toolbar thing from popping up everytime i launch an app in wine
[04:09] <mrbojanglie> lopzided: yes
[04:10] <Ng> Cedrics: it depends, do you have a hardware raid card?
[04:10] <Gen|G^2> can someone tell where im supposed to put "defconfig"? the guid says to update my xisting one or replace it with the one they gave me, but i cant find the original
[04:10] <giant> mrbojanglie, try new beta driver, it worked for me
[04:10] <finalbeta> The network seems to be much slower unde rlinux then my windows box, (lagwise) none of the bandwidth tools do what I want them to do btw.
[04:10] <frogzoo> dustinpn: did you enable wine's virtual desktop?
[04:10] <mrbojanglie> giant: could you briefly tell me how to do that please :-)
[04:10] <lopzided> mrbojanglie, try what giant said...but using that guide worked perfect for me, doing the manual install...
[04:10] <mrbojanglie> i have root ssh access
[04:11] <lopzided> mrbojanglie, i also had to replace a new file with an older one...libGLso.1.2 or something like that
[04:11] <frogzoo> finalbeta: dsl?
[04:11] <dustinpn> No, the virtual desktop is even more annoying
[04:11] <finalbeta> frogzoo, cable. (lan)
[04:11] <dustinpn> I just want utorrent to open w/o wine going nuts
[04:11] <giant> mrbojanglie, i don't know how i did that :)
[04:12] <dustinpn> everytime I minimize utorrent I can't even get it back
[04:12] <mrbojanglie> giant: oh right ok
[04:12] <frogzoo> finalbeta: do you need to set an MTU?
[04:12] <mrbojanglie> thanks everyone
[04:12] <finalbeta> frogzoo, never had to before, my MTU should be 1500 I belive.
[04:12] <finalbeta> standard
[04:13] <Cedrics> well sata raid 0 stripping im talking about configured in the beos.... im new with this raid thing..i just bought that amd :S
[04:13] <dustinpn> Anyone know how to get rid of the wine toolbar
[04:14] <frogzoo> dustinpn: I've never seen a wine toolbar...
[04:14] <dustinpn> Its popping up in the top left of my screen
[04:14] <dustinpn> when I open utorrent through wine
[04:14] <Ng> Cedrics: it's generally a good idea not to use BIOS raid and use the software raid in the installer instead, get the BIOS to present it as JBOD (Just a Bunch of Disks)
[04:14] <dustinpn> little toolbar with the utorrent icon in it
[04:14] <Ng> !repos > kukilan
[04:15] <ndlovu> hi all. after upgrading to dapper, the permissions for files on network samba shares seem to be a little funky. I haven't noticed any functionality differences, but all the filenames are green in gnome terminal. something to be concerned about?
[04:15] <frogzoo> dustinpn: is that meant to be system tray perhaps you can disable?
[04:15] <dustinpn> Thats what I'm trying to figure out how to do
[04:15] <lopzided> is wine free?
[04:16] <frogzoo> lopzided: yes
[04:16] <odb|rescue> hello
[04:16] <frogzoo> dustinpn: has utorrent an option for enable systray?
[04:16] <odb|rescue> simple question: is there any known issue if a ubuntu user uses debian sources ?
[04:16] <Cedrics> ok so unlike windows i dont need a driver disk for the installation... is it an option ill have to configure myself or will it be automaticly installed?
[04:16] <Ng> not using a windows program for torrents would be a good plan, there are a bunch for linux
[04:16] <ninniuz> hi, I'm having problems with cups 1.2.1 and ubuntu
[04:16] <Ng> odb|rescue: it's really not a good idea
[04:16] <odb|rescue> im using debian, but a friend of mine has changed to ubuntu and has asked me
[04:17] <frogzoo> odb|rescue: yes, it's generally a bad idea & can make your system function in new & interesting (and unspecified) ways
[04:17] <odb|rescue> Ng: so he should use ONLY ubuntu sources at all, right ?
[04:17] <Ng> Cedrics: if you have the bios present the raid disks as just ordinary disks then there won't be any issue. not sure about what you'll need to do if you're using the BIOS raid, but as I said, those are rarely a good idea
[04:17] <Ng> odb|rescue: correct
[04:17] <odb|rescue> ok thx guys
[04:17] <Cedrics> thank you
[04:24] <MenZa> Wow.
[04:24] <raptros-v76> yeah
[04:24] <lopzided> lol
[04:24] <MenZa> 7 minutes without any activity.
[04:24] <MenZa> Freaky.
[04:24] <raptros-v76> heh
[04:24] <Ng> does that mean we fixed all the problems and can go home? ;)
[04:24] <rambo3> how do i mount windows
[04:25] <raptros-v76> Ng: never.
[04:25] <lopzided> haha
[04:25] <echeese> Can you guys help me get wireless working?
[04:25] <lopzided> rambo3, what do you mean by mount windows?
[04:25] <lopzided> echeese, are you using a laptop?
[04:25] <echeese> lopzided, Yes
[04:25] <lopzided> echeese, are you using a pcmcia card?
[04:25] <frogzoo> rambo3: first you hunt it down & kill it, then you put it up on your wall
[04:26] <echeese> lopzided, No
[04:26] <raptros-v76> rambo3: you mean an ntfs partition?
[04:26] <Ash-Fox> my largest annoyance with getting wi-fi working on ubuntu was getting the countrycode.
[04:26] <m6s> ciao
[04:26] <lopzided> echeese, so its an integrated card....have you checked that it's supported?
[04:26] <echeese> No
[04:26] <echeese> It seems to work
[04:26] <rambo3> thank you i didnt know if i was going to use dougle glass on those windows
[04:26] <echeese> I got 70% on signal
[04:26] <rambo3> double
[04:26] <lopzided> echeese, oh...then what did you need help with?  :D
[04:26] <echeese> Uh
[04:26] <echeese> I can't connect to anything
[04:26] <raptros-v76> rambo3: ?
[04:27] <Ash-Fox> echeese, what country are you in?
[04:27] <echeese> Destination host unreachable
[04:27] <raptros-v76> echeese: did you connect to the network you set up?
[04:27] <echeese> Canada
[04:27] <Deimoz> To install, you need to change the fbcon to mode 770, or the installer will crash. See the help in the installer loader, it has an example of how to do this.
[04:27] <Ash-Fox> Okay, that's 11 channels, so default countrycode should be
[04:27] <Deimoz> install loader where is it :+
[04:27] <Ash-Fox> should be okay..
[04:27] <raptros-v76> Deimoz: ?
[04:27] <lopzided> erm..
[04:28] <Ash-Fox> echeese, what happens when you try to connect?
[04:28] <echeese> Timeout in firefox
[04:28] <Cntryboy26> when someone pings you, what port is that using?
[04:28] <raptros-v76> Cntryboy26: uh.
[04:29] <raptros-v76> why?
[04:29] <Ash-Fox> it's not using a port
[04:29] <Cntryboy26> raptros-v76, when someone sends a ping or imcp echo, what port does it use
[04:29] <Ash-Fox> It's using the protocol ICMP.
[04:29] <Cntryboy26> okay but wouldn't that still use a port?
[04:29] <Ash-Fox> No.
[04:29] <raptros-v76> well, yeah it kinda does
[04:29] <raptros-v76> but its kinda wierd
[04:29] <Ash-Fox> No, it doesn't. ICMP doesn't have ports.
[04:29] <raptros-v76> Ash-Fox: really
[04:30] <raptros-v76> ?
[04:30] <Ash-Fox> Yes.
[04:30] <echeese> So what can I do?
[04:30] <raptros-v76> Ash-Fox: source?
[04:30] <echeese> It seems I'm connected to my router
[04:30] <raptros-v76> echeese: set the DNS server to the router
[04:30] <lopzided> echeese, try resetting your router?  i've had the same problem before, and a router restart did the trick..might work for you...
[04:30] <rambo3> seting up gaeway at first would be an idea
[04:31] <echeese> Um
[04:31] <echeese> I tried pinging 192.168.2.1
[04:31] <echeese> And nothing
[04:31] <Cntryboy26> ash-fox: then with firestarter how can I stealth or block out imcp echo request, to futher hide my pc?
[04:31] <Ash-Fox> raptros-v76, RFC-792
[04:31] <echeese> So it's not DNS
[04:31] <echeese> I'll try resetting the router
[04:31] <raptros-v76> Ash-Fox: so how does it work?
[04:31] <Ash-Fox> raptros-v76, read RFC-792
[04:32] <raptros-v76> Ash-Fox: where?
[04:32] <Cedrics> another little thingy i downloaded this ubuntu-6.06-desktop-amd64.iso.... will i be able to setup raid or do i have to get alternate cd?
[04:32] <ndlovu> what's the best way to remove redundant kernels? I need to make some space in my / partition.
[04:32] <Ash-Fox> raptros-v76, http://www.google.com/search?q=rfc+792
[04:33] <raptros-v76> Cntryboy26: preferences -> icmp filtering
[04:33] <Cntryboy26> ash-fox: can I msg you so I can talk to u about hiding this imcp thingy
[04:33] <Cntryboy26> ok
[04:33] <Ash-Fox> Cntryboy26, I've never used firestarter.
[04:33] <Cntryboy26> thx raptros
[04:33] <rambo3> echeese : sudo route add default gw 192.168.*.* might help where * is router  configuration
[04:33] <dustinpn> How do I remove something Automatix installed?
[04:33] <giant> !firestarter
[04:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[04:33] <echeese_> ...
[04:33] <dustinpn> Azureus is installed but its showing up as not installed in synaptic
[04:33] <deFrysk> dustinpn, good question
[04:34] <echeese_> Thanks lopzided
[04:34] <darkyoshi372> There doesn't seem to be a Xubuntu channel, so... Does anybody know how to get xfplayer to play divX?
[04:34] <Ash-Fox> I've only used firewall admin, which is a php script which plays with iptables.
[04:34] <echeese_> Resetting it worked
[04:34] <Cntryboy26> raptros-v76: in prefer. for imcp should I check all those boxes or just imcp echo
[04:34] <raptros-v76> Cntryboy26: well, enable icmp filtering, then whatever you want
[04:35] <Ash-Fox> becareful, block all ICMP, and you won't be able to get your computer to auto configure it self on DHCP/BOOTP networks afer
[04:35] <Ash-Fox> *after.
[04:35] <Cntryboy26> raptros-v76: is it a good idea to enable filtering for the others?
[04:35] <raptros-v76> read what Ash-Fox just wrote
[04:36] <cyphase> can someone give me the mencoder command to convert a divx file to an ogg file?
[04:36] <ompaul> darkyoshi372, #xubuntu
[04:36] <Cntryboy26> is ctcp-ping on irc differ from imcp echo?
[04:36] <iamcitizen> help! i can't run gdmsetup. whenever i try, it opens for a split second, then crashes!
[04:36] <Ash-Fox> Cntryboy26, yes.
[04:36] <iamcitizen> any ideas?
[04:36] <cyphase> iamcitizen, have you just done a gdm upgrade?
[04:36] <ndlovu> okay, apt-get remove linux-image.-# should do the trick - how do I figure out which kernel is in use?
[04:36] <Ash-Fox> Cntryboy26, CTCP pings use.. CTCP. ICMP pings use.. ICMP
[04:36] <cyphase> without restarting gdm
[04:36] <iamcitizen> cyphase, no
[04:36] <Cntryboy26> k
[04:36] <cyphase> have you changed anything about gdm at all recently?
[04:36] <Cntryboy26> ash-fox what did you mean about the computer want auto configure itself?
[04:36] <iamcitizen> i have restarted my system like 3 times
[04:37] <cyphase> hmm
[04:37] <cyphase> try reinstalling gdm
[04:37] <cyphase> and gdmsetup
[04:37] <cyphase> longshot, but..
[04:37] <iamcitizen> ok
[04:37] <Ash-Fox> Cntryboy26, autoconfiguring for networks using DHCP/BOOTP will not be possible if you block certain ICMP codes.
[04:38] <] GD> hmm... what's a suggested IRC client to use on Linux?
[04:38] <revilot> how do you control your video card (ati) settings
[04:38] <giant> x-chat ] GD
[04:38] <ndlovu> memory kicks in: uname -r
[04:38] <Ng> ] GD: xchat or irssi. gaim can do it too, and there are a bunch of others
[04:39] <coffeebreak> just installed ubuntu. why can't I mount ntfs partitions on the other drive (it says it isn't removable)
[04:39] <Ash-Fox> ] GD, x-chat, kvirc, ksirc, bitchx...
[04:39] <Cntryboy> ash-fox: so just enable filter for echo request (ping) and echo reply (pong) then right, and leave the rest alone?
[04:39] <] GD> X-chat seems too basic... is there anything with more functionality? maybe some scripting like mIRC?
[04:39] <Ash-Fox> Cntryboy, why do you want to enable them in the first place?
[04:40] <yggdrasil> hello, is evolution better than thunderbird as far as junk mail is concerned ?
[04:40] <Ash-Fox> ] GD, I run mIRC simply :P
[04:40] <Cntryboy> ] gd: not sure what you want, but have you tried bitchx
[04:40] <cdn> mirc?
[04:40] <Cntryboy> I thought mirc was a win32 ap, u emulating ash-fox
[04:40] <Ash-Fox> No, I'm not emulating
[04:40] <cdn> Since when has mIRC been available for Ubuntu, Ash-Fox? o_O
[04:40] <Ash-Fox> Wine Is Not a Emulator.
[04:41] <cdn> irssi for the win!
[04:41] <Cin> Everything (mostly) in UNIX is a file right.
[04:41] <] GD> lol... does mIRC work fine on Wine? i'll have to try it
[04:41] <mheath> ] GD, X-Chat can script in Perl, Python, and other languages.
[04:41] <Cin> So if I block access to sockets for a certain user, can you do that?
[04:41] <Ash-Fox> ] GD, does here :)
[04:41] <Cntryboy> my bad ash-fox
[04:41] <Cntryboy> tired
[04:41] <iamcitizen> reinstalling fixed gdm, thanks!
[04:41] <mheath> ] GD, BitchX is a good console client with a very good builtin scripting language.
[04:41] <giant> ] GD, not wine, x-chat is better
[04:41] <cdn> I thought mIRC made the baby Wine cry...
[04:41] <revilot> how do you control your video card (ati) settings
[04:41] <Widoff> I ran mIRC through Wine a long time ago... it worked then, but that must be like 4 years ago, maybee more.
[04:42] <Cntryboy> ash-fox: so why wouldn't I want to enable filtering for ping/ping in imcp?
[04:42] <samuli> why use mirc when there's x-chat?
[04:42] <gnomefreak> where do i find biff's config file?
[04:42] <mheath> Cin, yes, you can do that.
[04:42] <Ash-Fox> giant, I still haven't figured out how to make windows in x-chat with tcl/perl scripts :P
[04:42] <Ash-Fox> giant, nevermind picture windows ;)
[04:42] <coffeebreak> just installed ubuntu. why can't I mount ntfs partitions on the other drive (it says: "error: device /dev/hda7 is not removable
[04:42] <coffeebreak> error: could not execute pmount")
[04:43] <giant> Ash-Fox, now I understand :)
[04:43] <gnomefreak> !ntfs > coffeebreak
[04:43] <gnomefreak> coffeebreak: read the pm from ubotu please
[04:44] <Trusughe> i have installed 30 minutes ago ubuntu 5.10
[04:44] <Cntryboy> ash-fox?
[04:44] <Trusughe> i want write the CD image
[04:44] <revilot> how do you control your video card (ati) settings
[04:44] <Trusughe> what program can i use for write CD ?
[04:44] <revilot> Trusughe: gnomebaker
[04:44] <samuli> Trusughe, isn't it as easy as right-clicking the image and selecting 'write image to disc'
[04:45] <any> hi
[04:45] <Paladine> !info directory encryption
[04:45] <ubotu> Package directory does not exist in dapper
[04:45] <Paladine> !directory encryption
[04:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about directory encryption
[04:45] <any> There something strange with bash on my box: http://pastebin.ca/84089
[04:45] <any> +is
[04:45] <Paladine> anyone know any packages for encyrpting directories?
[04:45] <revilot> Trusughe: gnomebaker
[04:45] <revilot> how do you control your video card (ati) settings
[04:45] <MarcN> Paladine: encfs or gpg for one file at a time.
[04:45] <samuli> Paladine, apt-cache search encrypt?
[04:46] <Paladine> thanks marc
[04:46] <mheath> Paladine, you could also try a loopback crypto filesystem.
[04:46] <Cntryboy> ash-fox: so why wouldn't I want to enable filtering for ping/ping in imcp? even with them enabled though trustealth failed saying it still can access it.
[04:46] <revilot> noone in here knows how to control video card settings?
[04:47] <Cntryboy> ping/pong rather
[04:47] <] GD> xchat runs better than mIRC? O_O
[04:47] <Ash-Fox> Cntryboy, because it's not a security issue?
[04:47] <samuli> revilot, aticonfig
[04:47] <revilot> anything gui?
[04:47] <Ash-Fox> Cntryboy, it only determines the latency between another location and you.
[04:47] <Cntryboy> I know that, but
[04:47] <Cntryboy> Ping Reply: RECEIVED (FAILED) - Your system REPLIED to our Ping (ICMP Echo) requests, making it visible on the Internet. Most personal firewalls can be configured to block, drop, and ignore such ping requests in order to better hide systems from hackers. This is highly recommended since "Ping" is among the oldest and most common methods used to locate systems prior to further exploitation.
[04:47] <MarcN> revilot: system->preferences->screen resolution
[04:47] <samuli> revilot, there's is no gui for fglrx, I don't know if ati's proprietary drivers come with a program.
[04:47] <Trusughe> synaptic do not find gnomebacker
[04:47] <Cntryboy> plus, I don't want ppl able to ping me off irc, I use slow dialup
[04:47] <Cntryboy> and they have b4
[04:47] <erikgz> how does one go about getting the kernel headers from a custom kernel?
[04:48] <revilot> samuli: where is aticonfig located so i can edit it
[04:48] <kindor> how can i kill a <defunct> process if it wont terminate?
[04:48] <samuli> Trusughe, have you tried just right-clicking the image in nautilus?
[04:48] <mheath> Cntryboy, ..........people can't  'ping you off irc'
[04:48] <cypher1> thanks ubuntu.. i recieved my dapper cds today :)
[04:48] <erikgz> kindor, ps aux | grep <command>
[04:48] <Ash-Fox> People could DOS/DDOS you, and no matter what, you'd still fall off IRC.
[04:48] <mheath> Cntryboy, they might be able to do some dcc stuff that would screw with you, but that would be prevented with a decent client and a resonable config.
[04:48] <samuli> revilot, it makes it changes directly to xorg.conf
[04:49] <Cntryboy> mheath: this guy did the other night, lagged me out so bad my internet disconnected
[04:49] <k1piee> hello
[04:49] <giant> kindor, man kill
[04:49] <erUSUL> kindor: if it is defunct you already killed it
[04:49] <kindor> yea it crashed :<
[04:49] <kindor> now i have to reboot i guess
[04:49] <erikgz> kindor: then, kill -KILL <process number>
[04:49] <revilot> if i type aticonfig it just gives me a bunch of text, how can i edit it
[04:49] <kindor> it wont die :<
[04:49] <erikgz> kindor: do that and read the man for kill
[04:49] <samuli> revilot, read the text. :)
[04:49] <brutopia> I chrooted shell for some users connecting through ssh but they can't run screen
[04:49] <kindor> ok erik
[04:49] <Cntryboy> mheath: okay, so tell me the #1 reason why someone can't ping you off the net? ppl used to do it all the time with windows 95/98
[04:49] <erikgz> kindor: even when you kill -KILL <proc number?>
[04:49] <revilot> samuli: ;)
[04:49] <Trusughe> i need to write the iso image
[04:50] <Trusughe> not just write some mp3
[04:50] <brutopia> screen says "Must be connected to a terminal."
[04:50] <Cntryboy> and ppl still ping the crap out of certain websites to screw em up
[04:50] <CrazyDoode> Cntryboy: because the problem was with the tcp stack in win95.
[04:50] <skavenge> i have a laptop with a wireless connection to the internet, it also has standard ethernet built in .. can I 'share' the wireless connection  through the wired ethernet to another computer? anyone know a good howto on this if its possible?
[04:50] <Cntryboy> okay so i'm protected with linux then right
[04:50] <samuli> Trusughe, are you trying to burn the image-file to your cd-rom or what?
[04:50] <colk> heh anyone rember con\con
[04:50] <kindor> erik: yes
[04:50] <rallison> exit
[04:50] <Ash-Fox> CrazyDoode, people can still DOS/DDOS you off though
[04:50] <kindor> it wont die
[04:50] <erikgz> now, how does one go about getting the kernel headers from a custom kernel?
[04:50] <kindor> i even tried kill -STOP
[04:51] <CrazyDoode> yup .. ddos and ping of death are two very differnt things.
[04:51] <fxn> Ubuntu hangs on "booting kernel" in a fresh install in an Acer laptop, I read in a forum I need to enter "linux noapci", but where? and how do I avoid that in each boot?
[04:51] <tmccrary> Is the main repository down right now?
[04:51] <CrazyDoode> nuke was what it was called with w95
[04:51] <Ash-Fox> fxn, grub configuration.
[04:51] <Cntryboy> so does ddos use the dcc method u was talking about
[04:51] <mheath> Cntryboy, normal pings are routed through the IRC server. Modern serrvers are going to throttle ping attempts, and the bandwidth is limited to your connection with the server.
[04:51] <Trusughe> i'm tryng to write the iso image in the CD rom
[04:51] <Cntryboy> yes I remember nukes
[04:51] <tmccrary> Can anyone else verify?
[04:51] <Trusughe> becouse i whant install ubuntu 6
[04:51] <ompaul> fxn, eh, that is done on the first boot at the install and it works
[04:51] <erikgz> kindor: what is this???
[04:51] <Trusughe> and i need create the installation CD
[04:51] <k1piee> interest
[04:51] <kindor> its our lp script
[04:52] <kindor> it just does stdin to printer $1
[04:52] <samuli> Trusughe, so right-click on the iso and choose: write image to disc
[04:52] <dredhammer> hello is anyone else having trouble burning data cds in dapper?
[04:52] <ompaul> fxn, read about "other options"
[04:52] <Cntryboy> ash-fox what exactly is ddos?
[04:52] <samuli> Trusughe, you don't need other programs than nautilus for that.
[04:52] <ompaul> dredhammer, none, or dvds for that matter
[04:52] <giant> !ddos
[04:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about ddos
[04:52] <mheath> Cntryboy, There are plenty of ways to create some lag for you, and some of them are indirectly tied to IRC; pinging via IRC is NOT one of them.
[04:52] <dredhammer> damn something is wrong with mine
[04:52] <raj> dredhammer, I had when I tried with nero
[04:52] <fxn> ompaul: but in the Grub menu what do I do?
[04:53] <raj> Then I tried with K3B , It works
[04:53] <Ash-Fox> Cntryboy, Distributed Denial of Service
[04:53] <Cntryboy> so ddos is pinging from like dos then not through irc directly?
[04:53] <dredhammer> at first it would reject all my blank cds and dvds
[04:53] <skavenge> k3b working fine here as well
[04:53] <erikgz> kindor, that's mad cool
[04:53] <dredhammer> now it won't burn a complete image
[04:53] <kindor> cool?
[04:53] <dredhammer> its always corrupted
[04:53] <ompaul> fxn, has the machine booted?
[04:53] <kindor> erikgz: the system has been up for more then a year, and now i need rebootz :<<<
[04:53] <erikgz> so, you can just pipe things to the printer
[04:53] <kindor> oh
[04:53] <erikgz> sucks
[04:53] <Ash-Fox> DDoS is the act of multiple sources flooding a single target with so much data, that it saturates all the victim's bandwith.
[04:53] <kindor> yea for our cobol app
[04:53] <fxn> ompaul: the machine boots, the Grub menu shows up, and if I choose Linux-server boots until the kernel is loaded and there it hangs
[04:53] <erikgz> haha
[04:54] <kindor> ;p
[04:54] <dredhammer> i've tried both k3b, gnomebaker and the native gnome burner
[04:54] <dredhammer> when you insert a blank cd
[04:54] <Cntryboy> ash-fox: okay then with firestarter how can I tell it to block out ddos attacks? or will it do it already by default since it's installed
[04:54] <mheath> kindor, you run a normal ubuntu system?
[04:54] <fxn> ompaul: there is an 'e' key to press to edit the boot
[04:54] <ompaul> fxn, yes
[04:54] <kindor> mheath: to be honest this is a debian system
[04:55] <reaper> hey, whats the best walkthrough for installin XGL on a notebook?
[04:55] <fxn> ompaul: if I press that in the default option I see boot/kernel/initrd/savedefault/boot
 Can u give more details on whats happening and how are doing
[04:55] <fxn> ompaul: do I need to add "linux noapci" there?
[04:55] <Ash-Fox> Cntryboy, you can't block a DDoS attack
[04:55] <kindor> we use ubuntu/gnome for the desktop, and debian for the cobol crapz
[04:55] <ompaul> fxn, use that - and only edit the "kenel" lines
[04:55] <mheath> kindor, mind if you run 'uptime' for me? I'm curious :)
[04:55] <ompaul> fxn, use that - and only edit the "kernel" line
[04:55] <kindor> sec
[04:55] <Ash-Fox> Cntryboy, the DDoS attack has already reached you, there is nothing you can do to stop it saturating your bandwith.
[04:55] <Cntryboy> ash-fox: lol and why not? sorry so many questions just trying to understand it
[04:56] <fxn> ompaul: oh, so that line ends in ro quiet splash, do I just add noapci at the end?
[04:56] <dredhammer> ok i insert a blank cd-r
[04:56] <reaper> hey, whats the best walkthrough for installin XGL on a notebook?
[04:56] <ompaul> fxn, append it to the end of the line, yes
[04:56] <Trusughe> yes
[04:56] <dredhammer> i try first the native gnome burner in nautilus
[04:56] <emmanuel_> hi
[04:56] <fxn> ompaul: great
[04:56] <Trusughe> i have selectet imagefile
[04:56] <dredhammer> it creates the image and burns to cd-r
[04:56] <Trusughe> now is writing
[04:56] <kindor> modulas2:/var/spool/lpd/MFC9420CN# w
[04:56] <kindor>  16:59:53 up 350 days, 20:51,  4 users,  load average: 1.01, 1.01, 1.06
[04:56] <dredhammer> then when i review it
[04:56] <Trusughe> tks
[04:56] <Cntryboy> ash-fox: im sure theres a way to block it or if not everyone could be shut down by ddos
[04:56] <dredhammer> the files are either incomplete
[04:56] <kindor> not evel
[04:56] <coffeebreak> Tnx, the diskmounter worked
[04:56] <kindor> even :<
[04:56] <dredhammer> or not there
[04:56] <Ash-Fox> Cntryboy, everyone can be taken out by a DDoS
[04:56] <dredhammer> so i try k3b
[04:56] <Cntryboy> zonealarm doesn't let ddos shut you down it completely blocks them from what I found on the net
[04:57] <dredhammer> i open a project
 Did u do the checksum??
[04:57] <ompaul> fxn, when the machine is booted do this "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst" that is a L and add it to the end of the kernel lines
[04:57] <Shannon1> good morning everyone,,
[04:57] <Cntryboy> ash-fox: and there's no way to filter ddos attacks then?
[04:57] <pcfan> Good morning
 When u do with K3B it will will ckecksum automatically and tell you the resullt before burmning
[04:57] <Ash-Fox> Cntryboy, imagine that you have a water pipe, a DDoS is basically shoving so much water down that pipe, that nothing else can fit through it. That pipe is your connection to your ISP.
[04:57] <Ash-Fox> Cntryboy, short of a ISP side solution, no.
[04:58] <Shannon1> can anyone give me a hand regarding a non fonctionnal mouse that works fine on live cd but doesnt fonction anymore once 6.06 in installed on HD
[04:58] <Cntryboy> ash-fox: okay got ya thx
[04:58] <ompaul> Cntryboy, you need to be on a much bigger pipe than your attacker
[04:58] <reaper> anyone able to point me in the direction of the best tut for installing XGL on a notebook
[04:58] <erUSUL> !xgl
[04:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:58] <Ash-Fox> In other words: Only if your ISP provides a firewall on their end, before any data reaches you.
[04:58] <ompaul> reaper, go to the #ubuntu-xgl channel
[04:58] <pcfan> tre[pl Gfd ggfd sa bvc ?
[04:58] <skavenge> i have a laptop with a wireless connection to the internet, it also has standard ethernet built in .. can I 'share' the wireless connection  through the wired ethernet to another computer? anyone know a good howto on this if its possible?
[04:58] <giant> wth pcfan?
[04:59] <erUSUL> skavenge: yes you can.
[04:59] <revilot> anyone know how i can set up a 5 button mouse
[04:59] <Ash-Fox> skavenge, yes, just set up a NAT.
[04:59] <fxn> ompaul: thank you, the advice in that forum is not helping unfortunately, BTW I recalled it wrongly before, it hangs after the trace "booting the kernel", so maybe the kernel is not successfully loaded indeed
[04:59] <erUSUL> !firestarter > skavenge
[04:59] <erikgz> how do i change the default ubuntu terminal??
[04:59] <Gen|G^2> what irc client do you suggest i use?
[04:59] <kindor> bitchx ;p
[04:59] <fxn> ompaul: it's a pity, it even configured the wifi in the installation
[04:59] <varsendaggr> hey how do i view a .odt?
[05:00] <varsendaggr> without installing oo.o2?
[05:00] <Cntryboy> kindor: bitchx looked to win95 dos to me, i didn't like it lol
[05:00] <Gen|G^2> i installed bichx...cant figureout how to run it lol
[05:00] <ompaul> Gen|G^2, xchat for a gui
[05:00] <reaper> ompaul: thanks
[05:00] <erUSUL> varsendaggr: with oo.org
[05:00] <Sonderblade> so im apt-get installing postgresql 7.4 and debconf is telling me that that version is incomplete?? why?
[05:00] <kindor> cntryboy: maybe gaim ?
[05:00] <ompaul> varsendaggr, abiword
[05:00] <Gen|G^2> and theres like 5 different xchat versions, i dont know which one to get
[05:00] <skavenge> firestarter can help with this than .. okay, thats a start, didnt know where to begin with this don't have much experience with networking
[05:00] <varsendaggr> ompaul, how do i do that?
[05:00] <revilot> is there anyway to set up a 5 button mouse
[05:01] <frogzoo> !mouse
[05:01] <ompaul> Gen|G^2, xchat or xchat-gnome
[05:01] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[05:01] <Cntryboy> xchat is easy to use, if you use kde konversation is easy to use, using wine and mirc works, bitchx unless u like to make scripts ect which I don't I wouldn't use it
[05:01] <ompaul> varsendaggr, what *ubuntu are you using
[05:01] <varsendaggr> just opening up the .odt   dapper
[05:01] <varsendaggr> ompaul, ^^^
[05:01] <kindor> hmm
[05:01] <Ash-Fox> bitchx doesn't require scripts
[05:01] <skavenge> theres alot of scripts already out there though .. i use epic myself
[05:01] <frogzoo> but why not stick with irssi? chat is made for a text client
[05:02] <ompaul> varsendaggr, no kde ubuntu or something else?
[05:02] <varsendaggr> no
[05:02] <kindor> cntry: maybe ircii
[05:02] <Cntryboy> ash-fox: I didn't say they require them, I said I wouldn't use it unless you are into scripting
[05:02] <brutopia> I used jailkit to create chrooted shell and everything works except screen which complains "Must be connected to a terminal."
[05:02] <Cntryboy> ash-fox: or like the fugly color looks lol
[05:02] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: I'm curious - what was your purple screen problem?
[05:02] <Ash-Fox> Cntryboy, err... x-chat is more scriptable than bitchx
[05:02] <Gen|G^2> i hv no idea
[05:02] <skavenge> a good theme changes all the colors heh
[05:03] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: just fixed itself?
[05:03] <Cntryboy> ash-fox: I didn't say xchat wasn't, but its easier to use is why I named xchat
[05:03] <mheath> .....
[05:03] <Gen|G^2> but it seems if i log out and shut down from the login menu it doesnt screw up, rather then selecting shut down from inside
[05:03] <ompaul> varsendaggr, dapper is 6.06 a version, what I am asking is are you using ubuntu kubuntu or xubuntu
[05:03] <Gen|G^2> although, it may just still screw up
[05:03] <Ash-Fox> I'm stating that if you like scriping, you'll probably want x-chat more.
[05:03] <Gen|G^2> ill be bac here when it does, dont worry :)
[05:03] <Cntryboy> prob. because it looks cleaner :)
[05:03] <varsendaggr> ompaul, no i am using gnome ubuntu
[05:04] <Cntryboy> ash-fox: do you know a script for irc to show system specs?
[05:04] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: you could check /var/log/messages now maybe 2 track it down
[05:04] <Ash-Fox> Cntryboy, #!/bin/sh
[05:05] <Ash-Fox> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:05] <Ash-Fox> ?
[05:05] <Gen|G^2> well, i cant actually
[05:05] <Gen|G^2> it hasnt errored since i reformatted
[05:05] <ompaul> varsendaggr, from the menu you click on System Administration Synaptic package manager and search in there for it and install it from there
[05:06] <Cntryboy> ash-fox: no I mean like if someone version you on irc, it will show system specs?
[05:06] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: ah, isn't that interesting...
[05:06] <Ag_Smith> hello
[05:06] <Gen|G^2> 3rd time was a charm i guess
[05:06] <varsendaggr> ompaul, i allready have abiword installed
[05:06] <wodz> hello
[05:06] <Shannon1> nothing from ubotu links is relevant,, the only change in live cd xorg.conf and the installation is 1 ImPS/2 as protocol and the other one is ExplorerPS/2 I changed the installed Xrog.conf to reflect that change but it has no effect
[05:06] <Ash-Fox> Cntryboy, yeah.. that's entirely possible, but why would you want to?
[05:06] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: this on a sata drive?
[05:06] <Gen|G^2> i have no idea
[05:06] <Gen|G^2> >.<
[05:06] <Ash-Fox> Cntryboy, but no, I don't know any premade scripts, I wrote all of min.
[05:07] <Ash-Fox> *mine
[05:07] <ompaul> varsendaggr, so open it and use it to open the file
[05:07] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: might be worth tweaking all your connectors to make sure they're tight- mem included
[05:07] <Shannon1> is I change further by omiting many more device concerning tablet pc, x wont even start,, :(
[05:07] <varsendaggr> ompaul, no dice,   it gives me 42 pages of gibberish
[05:08] <ompaul> varsendaggr, what is its extention type?
[05:08] <Gen|G^2> wine is a windows emulator, correct?
[05:08] <wodz> I have problem with sysrq: whenewer I press sysrq it switches to previous console, using /proc interface works. Any hint?
[05:08] <varsendaggr> i can extract it and get the content.xml open
[05:08] <Ag_Smith> how to use iptable?
[05:08] <varsendaggr> .odt
[05:08] <Gen|G^2> mmm
[05:08] <rsk> Gen|G^2, no, more of a windows implemantation.
[05:09] <Gen|G^2> still trying to figure out irc in linux :/
[05:09] <kokoko1> hi all
[05:09] <frogzoo> Gen|G^2: it's NOT an emulator - it's a genuine implementation of the win32 api that runs in real time on linux
[05:09] <kokoko1> after adding necessary repo
[05:09] <Gen|G^2> ahh
[05:09] <ompaul> varsendaggr, then I think it is damaged - because I can open odt here with abiword
[05:09] <varsendaggr> hmmm
[05:09] <kokoko1> doing apt-get install kde  , will install the kde desktop env. rigth?
[05:09] <Gen|G^2> xcht wants me to ompile it myself :/
[05:09] <varsendaggr> well it maybe
[05:09] <colk> wine = wine is not a emulator
[05:09] <colk> :P
[05:10] <frogzoo> colk: oh really, cool
[05:10] <Ash-Fox> Wine Is Not a Emulator
[05:10] <Cntryboy> ash-fox: I'm reading about ddos, and they said if you are for sure someone ddos you, you could block the slave ip's from futher ddos attacking you.
[05:10] <ompaul> Gen|G^2, no - you install it from the menu System Administration Synaptic Package Manager - Choose it and install it - you will also need universe enabled
[05:10] <njan> kokoko1, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:10] <Cntryboy> since theres a master,slave,victim routine
[05:10] <ompaul> !universe > Gen|G^2
[05:11] <Ash-Fox> Cntryboy, that works if you block it at the ISP
[05:11] <airmikey> i loaded the server cd ..im at a prompt..whats the command to get to the desktop
[05:11] <Ash-Fox> Cntryboy, but it will not work if you block it when reaches your computer.
[05:11] <Cntryboy> ash-fox: okay so if you are 100% sure about ddos you can prevent futher ones from only at the ip level right?
[05:11] <Ash-Fox> Cntryboy, what?
[05:11] <njan> Cntryboy, you can't really prevent further ones that easily - the first 'D' stands for distributed, by definition a 'well' implemented DDOS is very hard to just block like that
[05:12] <airmikey> hello
[05:12] <jbxyo> Hello
[05:12] <njan> Cntryboy, most effective DDoS defence revolves around making scalable systems, rate limiting, redundancy, and just not narking people off.
[05:12] <Ag_Smith> I want block specific sites using IPTABLE on Linux
[05:12] <airmikey> well
[05:12] <Cntryboy> njan: you could bash#netstat -lpn|grep :80 |awk '{print $5}'|sort and sort the ips by load, and start blocking ips though
[05:13] <Ash-Fox> Ag_Smith, iptables does not block websites, it blocks access to certain ips, ports at most.
[05:13] <njan> Cntryboy, you could, but software is much faster than you are, and it wouldn't work very well.
[05:13] <Ash-Fox> Ag_Smith, if you want to block certain websites, look into privoxy.
[05:13] <jbxyo> ...
[05:13] <frogzoo> Cntryboy: & you can also filter above the ip if you can get a nice small attack vector
[05:13] <Shannon1> ive posted the 2 config shannon1 17:10 17:12
[05:14] <Chetic> vuroooOOOOMMPTschhh...
[05:14] <jbxyo> i can ask a stupid question ^ ^
[05:14] <frogzoo> jbxyo: and that was it!!
[05:14] <Cntryboy> okay so lets pretend I'm a trillion aire with a hugeee website.. or simply stating lets pretend I own yahoo networks.. How do they protect theirselves against attackers, knowing I'm sure ppl ddos them b4
[05:14] <Ag_Smith> how to look into privoxy ?
[05:14] <jbxyo> Where i can get Mercury Messenger for ubuntu (intel)
[05:14] <kokoko1> njan, thanks
[05:14] <Ag_Smith> root@gioacchino-desktop:~# privoxy
[05:14] <Ag_Smith> -su: privoxy: command not found
[05:15] <frogzoo> Cntryboy: they all had to put layer 7 packet inspectors at the front of their networks
[05:15] <njan> Cntryboy, like I said, by building scalable, redundant systems, and implementing rate limiting and other technologies designed to block DDoS attacks like syn cookies.
[05:15] <jbxyo> ...
[05:15] <njan> Cntryboy, there are plenty of vendors out there selling DDoS defence products
[05:15] <Cntryboy> okay, and by the terms used it would be pretty hard for someone on my level to do this correct?
[05:15] <jbxyo> There are virus on linux ?
[05:16] <Ash-Fox> No, it's just very costly.
[05:16] <kokoko1> njan, still I have to add some other repo for  apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[05:16] <Ash-Fox> setting up your own infrastructures etc.
[05:16] <l_r> hello
[05:16] <frogzoo> Cntryboy: iptables can do some pretty amazing things....
[05:16] <kokoko1> or the default repo will work
[05:16] <Cntryboy> ash-fox got ya
[05:16] <erUSUL> !offtopic
[05:16] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:16] <Ash-Fox> and still, that won't protect you from some DDoS attacks.
[05:16] <mc__> !ontopic
[05:16] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:16] <jbxyo> grrrrr
[05:17] <Ash-Fox> It just requires that the 'enemy' gets more high bandwith sources to take you down.
[05:17] <mc__> !topic
[05:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about topic
[05:17] <coffeebreak> how do I change the grub default OS? In documentation it says to change the "default 0" line, but what do I put instead? default 4?
[05:17] <giant> yes there are jbxyo
[05:17] <giant> but very few
[05:17] <ompaul> Cntryboy, you really do need to take it #ubuntu-offtopic  you should research it it is way beyond the role of this channel to give you a breakdown of how ddos works
[05:17] <kokoko1> coffeebreak, your OS is in what # in grub.conf?
[05:17] <jbxyo> ok
[05:17] <kokoko1> start counting from 0
[05:17] <frogzoo> coffeebreak: which line in menu.lst you want as the default
[05:17] <Cntryboy> ompaul: yah im done with talking about ddos lol, but I will check go there and talk about it futher thx
[05:18] <Cntryboy> go check
[05:18] <coffeebreak> well, there are firs 3 ubuntu and then win under other OS
[05:18] <skavenge> okay setting up NAT through firestarter, does the machine need to be restarted for NAT to work? Both machines can ping each other but i still get no internet on the one that doesnt have it, do i need to setup DNS or something?
[05:18] <kokoko1> coffeebreak, then it make M$ in 4
[05:18] <kokoko1> sorry 3
[05:19] <AngryElf> what is the firmware hotplug directory in dapper?
[05:19] <l_r> there's an annoying problem with DNS in ubuntu dapper. The card connects to a gateway and receive the IP from a DHCP server. I configured my dhclient.conf not to ask for DNS to the DHCP server. I manually configured my resolv.conf to use localhost as DNS. The problem is that somewhere resolv.conf keeps being replaced with the address of the gateway. Any idea?
[05:19] <coffeebreak> y7ou mean "default 4"  ?
[05:19] <erUSUL> skavenge: more likely is a dns thing try a 'ping numip'
[05:19] <AngryElf> !firmware
[05:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about firmware
[05:19] <AngryElf> !hotplug
[05:19] <Gorlist> hi, when I try to run this from the terminal: echo 'wine 0 0 direct' > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[05:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about hotplug
[05:19] <Gorlist> it comes up with permission denied
[05:19] <Cntryboy> bbl gotta go eat
[05:19] <Gorlist> even if I try sudo
[05:19] <Cntryboy> peace and thx to all
[05:19] <kokoko1> coffeebreak, default 3
[05:20] <coffeebreak> ok tnx
[05:20] <jrib> Gorlist: run 'sudo -i' first then do your command
[05:20] <Gorlist> ok thanks
[05:20] <jrib> Gorlist: after you finish, be sure to exit
[05:20] <Gorlist> how do I exit it?
[05:20] <jrib> Gorlist: type 'exit' :)
[05:20] <Gorlist>  :) so simple
[05:21] <Gorlist> is it possible to tell Ubuntu to run the echo command on bootup/login?
[05:21] <Gorlist> its to resolve the sound issues on teamspeak/wine
[05:21] <erikgz> ?
[05:21] <erikgz> oye, oops
[05:22] <airmikey> anyone here load the server cd
[05:22] <Ng> Gorlist: you could put the command in /etc/rc.local
[05:22] <jrib> Gorlist: you can put it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh I guess
[05:22] <devhen> yep, i installed with the server cd
[05:22] <Gorlist> i will give it a try thanks again
[05:22] <skavenge> !nat
[05:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about nat
[05:22] <airmikey> how do ui get to the desktop
[05:22] <devhen> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:23] <airmikey> tried that
[05:23] <devhen> what happened?
[05:23] <airmikey> couldnt find package
[05:23] <devhen> are you connected to the internet?
[05:24] <xzz> Should I choose 64bit or 32bit for my 64bit laptop with ati x200 ?
[05:24] <airmikey> no
[05:24] <devhen> you need to be connected to the internet, the ubuntu-desktop packages are not included with the server iso
[05:24] <airmikey> ah
[05:24] <devhen> thats why the iso is only 430 mb ;)
[05:24] <Shannon1> be back in a minute,,
[05:24] <dr_willis> xzz,  id stick with the 32 bit distros at this time.
[05:25] <ZeZu> 64b works great
[05:25] <Maggie___> Ok
[05:25] <devhen> the problem with the 64bit v. is that some 32bit-only apps wont run, like win32 video codecs and some browser plugins
[05:26] <xzz> ok
[05:26] <seamus_> hey everyone
[05:26] <xzz> what's the pros with 64 instead of 32, then?
[05:26] <zerod> you tell me
[05:26] <mortal> xzz: more bits
[05:26] <xzz> heh
[05:26] <mortal> bigger numbers
[05:26] <devhen> theres a performance increase with the 64bit versioin
[05:26] <Ng> xzz: in theory it should be faster, but a desktop system spends more time waiting for disk/network/user input than it does cpu calculation
[05:27] <xzz> ok. I'll stick to 32-bit, then ...
[05:27] <devhen> but if you need 32bit windows programs to run then its not worth it ;)
[05:27] <xzz> thanks anyway :)
[05:27] <devhen> thats what i would recommend. unless your installing a server where performance is most important
[05:27] <Gen|G^2> yay, got xchat orkin
[05:28] <xzz> devhen: yeah, server on my laptop :P
[05:28] <coffeebreak> just 1 more question: How do I manipulate hardware acceleration and rendering for my graphix? My new desktop seems laggy (windows leave trails when moved..)
[05:28] <devhen> lol mobile server
[05:28] <airmikey> lol
[05:28] <devhen> coffeebreak, see ubuntuguide.org for instructions on install ATI and nvidia drivers
[05:29] <dr_willis_> !ati
[05:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:30] <ZeZu> easyubuntu
[05:30] <ZeZu> !easyubuntu
[05:30] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:30] <airmikey> is there a way to configure internet from the prompt
[05:31] <devhen> system-config-network maybe?
[05:31] <devhen> you should have configured it during install ;)
[05:32] <airmikey> yeah i put in the wep  but still didnt connect
[05:32] <skavenge> whats  the easiest way to share files between two ubuntu machines with static ips on a network? ftp?
[05:32] <ndlovu> after upgrading to Dapper, Update Manager warns me about "the following updates will be skipped: gdk-imlib1". how do I sort out this dependency issue?
[05:33] <devhen> skavenge, i use sftp
[05:33] <skavenge> devhen; is that just a different ftp program or something else?
[05:33] <devhen> skavenge, use gftp and choose the ssh2 option, that way you dont need to setup an ftp server on the machines
[05:34] <seamus_> airmikey: what do you want to configure?
[05:34] <seamus> skavenge: ssh
[05:34] <devhen> but you will need to have an ssh server installed if you havent already
[05:34] <airmikey> well i loaded the server cd, cant get to the desktop
[05:34] <scotty> can any1 explain how to install java ?
[05:34] <skavenge> devhen; do i need the server on both machines?
[05:35] <airmikey> i guess i need the net to load
[05:35] <say_no_2_windowz> scotty:  search ubuntu forums
[05:35] <airmikey> ubuntu desktop
[05:35] <devhen> scotty, see ubuntuguide.org
[05:35] <say_no_2_windowz> devhen:
[05:35] <giant> !java
[05:35] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:35] <say_no_2_windowz> !ubuntguide
[05:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuntguide
[05:35] <say_no_2_windowz> !ubuntuguide
[05:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuntuguide
[05:35] <say_no_2_windowz> hmm
[05:35] <say_no_2_windowz> i swear one of them is out of date
[05:36] <devhen> skavenge, no. just on one. but i would install on both anyway so either one can act as the server/client
[05:36] <devhen> skavenge, i bevlieve its sudo apt-get install openssh-server. give that a try
[05:36] <skavenge> devhen; problem is one of them isnt internet connected  .. are the ssh utils on the install cd?
[05:37] <devhen> skavenge, probably. it would work to install the server on one and connect to it from the other
[05:37] <skavenge> devhen; ill work on getting the server on the internet connected machine then and go from there
[05:38] <devhen> skavenge, good idea let me know if i can help u further
[05:38] <mjnavas> hola
[05:38] <skavenge> devhen; thanks
[05:39] <devhen> say_no_2_windows, ubuntuguide.org = official ubuntu faq :p
[05:39] <yggdrasil> is there some shortcut for switching workspaces (deskstops) like alt 3 or something like that in gnoome
[05:39] <prt> hey
[05:40] <devhen> lol. alright maybe its not "official"... thought it was... i havent had problems with it
[05:40] <deFrysk> yggdrasil, ctrl alt arrow
[05:40] <jrib> yggdrasil: system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[05:40] <AngryElf> there's this option in mythtv-setup -> general....."follow symlinks when deleting files"  my myth directory is a sym link......would this prevent auto-expire from deleting files?
[05:40] <CAZADOR02> buenas
[05:40] <AngryElf> **if that option isn't checked?
[05:40] <devhen> deFrysk: thanks! been wondering about that myself ;)
[05:40] <jbxyo> i can't aply downloaded skin
[05:40] <h3h_timo> !grub
[05:40] <tich> i've am trying to install this nice little program called gutenpy using gdebi but when it first loads up it says that there are unmet dependancies: python 2.4. i have python 2.4, and i just reinstalled just incase but gdebi still won't depakage it. what should i do?
[05:40] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:40] <deFrysk> devhen, hehe
[05:40] <ndlovu> gdk-imlib1 seems to not want to upgrade. do I need it?
[05:41] <yggdrasil> ahh ctrlalt arrow works
[05:41] <CAZADOR02> Aalguine de argentina?
[05:41] <ndlovu> packages.ubuntu.com says: compatibility package for gdk-imlib11 [universe]  1.9.14-29ubuntu1: all
[05:41] <devhen> !people that say !anything :P
[05:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about people that say !anything :P
[05:41] <devhen> lol
[05:41] <deFrysk> !es
[05:41] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:41] <vincentmz> hi
[05:42] <devhen> !nay-sayers :D
[05:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about nay-sayers :D
[05:42] <devhen> lol
[05:42] <jbxyo> When i download icon, theme whathever i can't apply them to the theme menu
[05:42] <devhen> ubotu we must think alike :)
[05:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about we must think alike :)
[05:42] <devhen> phhht
[05:42] <Ng> devhen: could you play with the bot in private if you have to please
[05:42] <Ng> you can /msg it
[05:42] <devhen> ha!
[05:42] <devhen> rgr that sry
[05:43] <finalbeta> How do I get 5.1 sound from Rhythmbox or totem? It's working under xine.
[05:43] <skavenge> devhen; now that i have openssh-server installed, do i need to run something to configure it? Am I making myself vulernable by running the ssh server or is it secure in its stock installed form?
[05:44] <devhen> skavenge, its secure. or at least ive always trusted it and had no problems. no need to configure it unless you have a firewall. in that case, open port 222
[05:44] <Shizboom> if i was going to make a panel applet for gnome or kde what would the easiest/best language to use?
[05:44] <devhen> oops, 22*
[05:45] <adminstrator____> Shizboom are you making it for gnome or kde?
[05:45] <Shizboom> going to try to make it for gnome
[05:45] <Shizboom> i guess if i had a choice
[05:45] <rellim> Shizboom: sorry, i just came in ... what you making?
[05:46] <Shizboom> a panel applet
[05:46] <finalbeta> How do I get 5.1 sound from Rhythmbox or totem? It's working under xine. Seriously, doesn't anyone know this. Must be a standard question, been looking for weeks.
[05:46] <devhen> skavenge, just use gftp, enter ip of computer with ssh-server and choose 'ssh2' option instead of ftp
[05:46] <adminstrator____> Shizboom i would use glade to design it
[05:46] <rellim> Shizboom: cool cool, functionality?
[05:46] <Shizboom> i want to make something that will read a file line by line and scroll the contents
[05:46] <devhen> finalbeta, all i know is that there is a setting in totem's preferences
[05:47] <Shizboom> so basically i have a script on my router that makes a file that will list of the status of the router
[05:47] <skavenge> devhen; i just found out gftp isnt in the main so now im stuck figuring out how to get gftp on the internet-less machine heh..
[05:47] <euclid_1> how can I view .wmv movies with VLC?
[05:47] <Shizboom> and i want a program that reads that and puts it on my panel
[05:47] <devhen> skavenge, you can use 'scp' as well. got that installed?
[05:47] <SurfnKid> Shizboom, nice, what router u using
[05:47] <jrib> euclid_1: if they are wmv9 you can only view them in vlc if you recompile
[05:47] <Shizboom> i have a WRT54g
[05:47] <skavenge> devhen; will go check
[05:47] <finalbeta> devhen, yes, found that one, keeps resetting? Is their not a way to force system wide 5.1? Like on windows :p
[05:47] <Shizboom> running DD-WRT
[05:47] <euclid_1> jrib, I need to compile the VLC source code?
[05:48] <SurfnKid> ok
[05:48] <Shizboom> and have a shell script running on it to make the file that i read
[05:48] <devhen> finalbeta, not sure. never used 5.1 on linux. sorry. if you dont get response try the forums on ubuntu.com
[05:48] <jrib> euclid_1: no, you don't need to.  xine or mplayer play wmv9 fine with w32codecs
[05:48] <OneSeventeen> I'm going to do a 15 minute review of Ubuntu in my next podcast, what key points should I cover?
[05:48] <euclid_1> jrib, Can you help me get the codecs?
[05:48] <SurfnKid> ah
[05:48] <Shizboom> anyone know of any tutorials on panel aplet creation? i found one for perl
[05:48] <SurfnKid> !w32
[05:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about w32
[05:48] <SurfnKid> !w32codeces
[05:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about w32codeces
[05:48] <devhen> euclid_1, sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[05:48] <SurfnKid> !w32codecs
[05:48] <ubotu> w32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[05:49] <skavenge> devhen; yep ive got scp .. looks like the ssh commandline tools are all installed
[05:49] <adminstrator____> jrib fine is an over statement.....wmv still is terribly supported
[05:49] <euclid_1> thanks
[05:49] <Shizboom> OneSeventeen - probably the ease of use :D
[05:49] <devhen> skavenge, nice. syntax is scp file-to-copy user@host:destination
[05:49] <jrib> adminstrator____: mplayer has played every file I've thrown at it.  I think the stuff with drm is the only thing it won't play
[05:49] <OneSeventeen> Shizboom: what's one thing that ubuntu does that makes it easy to use for you?
[05:50] <adminstrator____> jrib....maybe
[05:50] <ardchoille> OneSeventeen: Yeah, I'd say ease of use. I have an 8 year old niece who uses Ubuntu exclusively on her computer and she loves it. If an 8 year old girl can use it..  :)
[05:50] <euclid_1> devhen, it couldnt find the codecs
[05:50] <Shizboom> Lots of applications prepackaged for download in the repositories
[05:50] <SurfnKid> ardchoille, whoa
[05:50] <Shizboom> just select and install
[05:51] <jrib> euclid_1: you need to go to the url ubotu said before
[05:51] <devhen> euclid_1, hmm. check ubuntuguide.org look for instructions on how to install win32 codecs
[05:51] <Phoul> Theres a section on it in the restricted formats wiki
[05:51] <adminstrator____> ardchoille and she gets it
[05:51] <SurfnKid> ardchoille, hehe so she can get used to linux instead of windows
[05:51] <Phoul> on w32codecs
[05:51] <ardchoille> SurfnKid: Yeah, lol, makes me feel sorry for those people who come i here and complain that Ubuntu is bad and too hard to use.
[05:52] <Shannon1> hi again everyone..
[05:52] <devhen> OneSeventeen: stability of debian plus many packages/updates via repos
[05:52] <Phoul> ubuntu is far from hard... Thats why i came back to it hahaha
[05:52] <SurfnKid> hehe
[05:52] <Phoul> I got tired of spending every waking moment getting gentoo to work. <3 ubuntu
[05:52] <SurfnKid> ardchoille, yeah that makes me think too sometimes hehe, i shouldnt complain lol
[05:52] <ardchoille> adminstrator____: Yes, she understands it quite well. She installs her own apps and maintains it mostly by herself. I step in and answer questions now and then, though.
[05:52] <SurfnKid> Phoul, gentoo is weird yes
[05:52] <Phoul> Yeah it is lmao
[05:53] <devhen> gentoo=more work than is necessary ;)
[05:53] <Phoul> Yeah
[05:53] <SurfnKid> ardchoille, im defintely gonna teach my kids that too if they like computers,
[05:53] <OneSeventeen> Thanks Shizboom, ardchoille, and devhen, I'll definitely be putting the software install/ease of use/stability in there.
[05:53] <|rt|> devhen: depends on what you're doing...for a desktop I would agree
[05:53] <Phoul> I think someone here should start there kids off on sourcemage personally
[05:53] <Phoul> XD
[05:53] <mc__> gentoo=fun and good to learn linux
[05:54] <ardchoille> SurfnKid: Yeah, good to start them out on the best OS first :)
[05:54] <deFrysk> gentoo is boring
[05:54] <Seveas> gentoo is offtopic in here...
[05:54] <mc__> i found it once amazing
[05:54] <deFrysk> Seveas, that too :D
[05:54] <phunkalicious> i had a question about connecting to my works GAL? what do i put in the catalog name? I tried ip address and a FQDN, and even Default Global Address List but it still errors out
[05:54] <devhen> yep, gentoo is great for learning. not so great for the desktop. perfect for custom applications
[05:55] <Seveas> devhen, gentoo is offtopic in here...
[05:55] <Phoul> look what i have started
[05:55] <SurfnKid> ardchoille, yeah i agree
[05:55] <Seveas> beware...
[05:55] <Phoul> uhh ohh
[05:55] <devhen> yep sorry. to be fair we are talking about how gentoo is not as easy to run on the desktop as ubuntu
[05:55] <OneSeventeen> ardchoille, my wife uses Ubuntu on my laptop too, and considering she doesn't even blink when switching between ubuntu and xp makes me think it is pretty user friendly as well
[05:56] <Phoul> hey Seveas is there a tutoriel on like "how to make .debs"
[05:56] <Seveas> Phoul, several
[05:56] <Phoul> That will work for everyone? like not just 1 system but i guess generic or what ever
[05:56] <Seveas> bu before you start doing that, you muxt know shellscripting and writing Makefils
[05:56] <Hobbsee> !packagingguide > Phoul
[05:56] <h3h_timo> is there anyway to get advanced preferences for the screensaver in dapper?
[05:56] <Seveas> !packagingguide > me
[05:56] <phunkalicious> you have to install xscreensaver i think h3h_timo :/
[05:57] <h3h_timo> phunkalicious, thanks
[05:57] <euclid_1> Hi guys.. xine cant play WM9.. what do I need to recompile to play WM(?
[05:57] <ardchoille> OneSeventeen: Ubuntu is awesome. I have tried 17 distros in the last 5 years (been 100% Windows free) and Ubuntu has been.. well, just amazing.
[05:57] <deFrysk> h3h_timo, easy way to make debs for personal usage (not sharing!) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2356
[05:57] <tich> can a deb be installed in such a way that the dependencies are automatically installed first?
[05:57] <ardchoille> But I have a feeling I am preaching to the chior here :)
[05:57] <devhen> euclid_1, i was able to play wm files after installing the w32codecs
[05:57] <ardchoille> *choir
[05:57] <ZeZu> !restricted > euclid_1
[05:58] <deFrysk> tich, sudo apt-get build dep ,package>
[05:58] <phunkalicious> yo
[05:58] <euclid_1> devgen, I searched for win32 codecs
[05:58] <Shannon1> anyone found the solution to my little problem regarding non fonctional mouse in 6.06
[05:58] <Seveas> !w32codecs > euclid_1
[05:58] <ZeZu> err oh is it w32codecs .. i forget
[05:58] <devhen> OneSeventeen: recently installed fedora 5 on my laptop and ubuntu 6 on my desktop to compare them as desktop OS's. Ubuntu wins!!! ;)
[05:58] <OneSeventeen> Yup, I actually switched to ubuntu as my primary OS at work a few weeks ago, and nobody but my immediate co-workers have noticed!  I've actually gotten quicker at development and graphic design!
[05:58] <euclid_1> devhen, nothing was listed in synaptic when i searched
[05:58] <ZeZu> euclid_1 try easyubuntu as well, it will install them too
[05:59] <devhen> !w32codecs
[05:59] <ubotu> w32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[05:59] <phunkalicious> i think my w32codecs are broken :/
[05:59] <euclid_1> ZeZu, a search for easyubuntu turned up nothing
[05:59] <phunkalicious> my wmv files are all choppy :/
[05:59] <devhen> euclid_1, there you have it. check out those URLs
[05:59] <adminstrator____> Seveas: are the w32codecs in your personal repo more up to date then others..?
[05:59] <OneSeventeen> devhen, I think my problem is fedora is a free version of redhat, right?  Ubuntu is the only version of Ubuntu... it is just a free, user friendly version of a debian, which is still free.  great for cheap people like me!
[05:59] <ZeZu> !easyubuntu
[05:59] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[06:00] <phunkalicious> i installed them from cipherfunk instead though, maybe that is the problem :O
[06:00] <Ng> adminstrator____: the ones on mplayerhq.hu are the most up to date, the only difference is they are in a tarball, not a .deb
[06:00] <Seveas> adminstrator____, last update upstream to them was over a year ago
[06:00] <Ng> Seveas: nope
[06:00] <Seveas> Ng, hmm
[06:00] <Ng> Seveas: I only noticed because I had to grab them yesterday ;)
[06:00] <adminstrator____> Seveas: hehe ok nevermind then : )
[06:00] <Seveas> ok, then I will update my packages 
[06:00] <dman> ubuntu live cd seems to be really laggy installing on my laptop
[06:00] <devhen> OneSeventeen, linux is always free ;) basically. you can find free versions of red hat and suse as well
[06:00] <dman> can i do a non gui install?
[06:00] <Ng> Seveas: 20060611 is the latest now :)
[06:00] <Seveas> rock
[06:01] <jbxyo> How I partion a ext 3 disk, i forget whit which software
[06:01] <Ng> parted
[06:01] <deFrysk> gparted
[06:01] <OneSeventeen> devhen, yeah, but I guess I'm thinking of the fact that I have the novell linux desktop sitting next to me, and it took me about 3 hours on the phone to get the registration working, and it cost my employer an annual fee
[06:01] <xzz> fdisk, cfdisk
[06:01] <jbxyo> thx !
[06:01] <ardchoille> jbxyo: I like gparted
[06:01] <devhen> OneSeventeen, what sets Ubuntu apart IMO is how easy/well it works as a desktop OS
[06:01] <AngryElf> guys, I installed apache2 and php5, including php5-mysql and when accessing a php file it says "Please install the MySQL libraries for PHP.  The packages is usually called something like php-mysql.".....any ideas?
[06:02] <OneSeventeen> devhen, the argument was "red carpet keeps things up-to-date", so once I played with Ubuntu's update manager, I uninstalled NLD and stuck with ubuntu...
[06:02] <devhen> OneSeventeen, yep. I use CentOS a lot. free version of RH enterprise. but thats off - topic ;)
[06:02] <jbxyo> Uh where is gparted :S
[06:02] <devhen> OneSeventeen, its definately depressing to have to /pay/ for linux. lol
[06:03] <ddman> Hello
[06:03] <phunkalicious> i dunno, SLED is pretty slick
[06:03] <phunkalicious> i would pay for it
[06:03] <ardchoille> !info gparted
[06:03] <ubotu> gparted: partition editor for GNOME. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 232 kB, installed size 1280 kB
[06:03] <devhen> phunkalicious, agreed. SLED is pretty cool. comes with the new GNOME layout and Beagle
[06:03] <phunkalicious> yeah, i wish there was an enterprise-setup package in ubuntu
[06:04] <phunkalicious> to make it easier to deploy at offices :/
[06:04] <jbxyo> !info gparted
[06:04] <ubotu> gparted: partition editor for GNOME. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 232 kB, installed size 1280 kB
[06:04] <jbxyo> um
[06:04] <ardchoille> I don't know who wrote the capability in so the bot could do !info appname, but thank you very much whoever it was.
[06:05] <tpgterror> hmm is there any hacking channel for Ubuntu?
[06:05] <ddman> I installed dc++ package from http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/linuxdcpp on Ubuntu 6.06 and synaptic sys it's broken. Cannot update
[06:05] <devhen> ddman, did you try 'fix broken packages' in synaptic?
[06:05] <Essencee> Hello,
[06:05] <ddman> is there any quick and dirty fix for this?
[06:05] <ddman> ya
[06:05] <tpgterror> Hi
[06:05] <deFrysk> ddman, mixing repo's is a nono
[06:05] <ddman> but i don;t want to remove it
[06:05] <ddman> it;s working fine
[06:05] <Essencee> I have a question: what is the default in Totem, when i install Ubuntu? gstreamer?
[06:05] <ndlovu> is there some way to reduce the sensitivity of my touchpad in Ubuntu?
[06:05] <devhen> ddman, try 'apt-get update'. then run synaptic again and try 'fix broken packages'
[06:05] <ddman> i just want to ignore it
[06:06] <nosklo> Essencee, yes
[06:06] <tpgterror> Essencee: come to #tpgterror
[06:06] <Essencee> What is this?
[06:06] <chotchki> hey guys does anyone know of a repo that provides xvidcap or the a different program that does the same thing?
[06:06] <ryanpg> hi... very intense question here... I'm trying to copy all files over from a damaged HD to a new one. I'm using LVM and have managed to move all file correctly. I've also setup partitions properly hda1 = /boot hda2 and hda5 = extended and LVM, but now when I boot the machine I get "Alert! /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root does not exist. Dropping to shell!"
[06:06] <devhen> Essencee, default /what/ in totem?
[06:06] <Essencee> codec
[06:06] <ddman> devhen: thanks
[06:06] <deFrysk> totem uses gstreamer
[06:06] <tpgterror> Essencee: i just want to speak you in my channel, #tpgterror
[06:06] <ddman> i'll try this
[06:06] <devhen> ryanpg, fix your /etc/fstab file
[06:07] <ryanpg> devhen ty, I'll boot from the livecd and take a look
[06:07] <jbxyo> In what folder I put my software ?
[06:07] <Essencee> OK Thanks, more question, how can I install audio codecs?
[06:07] <devhen> ryanpg, no need. just edit /etc/fstab from the shell
[06:07] <tpgterror> nosklo: sorry
[06:07] <deFrysk> jbxyo, software like ?
[06:07] <devhen> Essencee, see 'mutimedia codecs' on ubuntuguide.org
[06:08] <Essencee> OK, because in Ubunutu Breeze i couldn't hear music in Amarok..
[06:08] <jbxyo> software like pack in tar.bz2
[06:08] <ryanpg> devhen, my fstab is really borked... is there a way to regenerate one?
[06:09] <deFrysk> devhen, https://help.ubuntu.com/ is the official guide
[06:09] <bderrly> ryanpg, paste it to pastebin and we can fix it, it can't be that bad
[06:09] <deFrysk> devhen, try to use that as a reference
[06:09] <devhen> ryanpg, hmm. not that i know of. i could be wrong. just make sure the lines for / and /home are proper
[06:09] <ryanpg> deFrysk, ok I'll try
[06:09] <devhen> deFrysk, got it. thanks. sorry about that. been using the other lately
[06:09] <bderrly> jbxyo, what software are you trying to install?
[06:09] <fresch> what's a good tool to merge video streams? preferably cli?
[06:10] <jbxyo> gparted (but i ask this question in general) im new to linux :S
[06:10] <bderrly> jbxyo, apt-get install gparted
[06:10] <deFrysk> sudo
[06:10] <jrib> fresch: mpgcat if it is mpg, mencoder works well too if you know how to use it
[06:10] <jbxyo> oh
[06:10] <jbxyo> !
[06:10] <bderrly> jbxyo, don't install stuff from source unless you absolutely have to
[06:11] <jbxyo> hmmm ?
[06:11] <fresch> jrib, what about avi?
[06:11] <devhen> agreed. ubuntu is particularly good at providing compiled packages and compiling from source is rarely necessary
[06:11] <bderrly> jbxyo, and it is more complicated than just moving stuff to a directory...  ;-)
[06:11] <jbxyo> oh...
[06:11] <jrib> fresch: mencoder I suppose
[06:12] <jbxyo> it's say
[06:12] <jbxyo>  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[06:12] <deFrysk> mencoder ffmpeg avidemux etc
[06:12] <fresch> jrib, thanks, i'll lookup those two
[06:12] <devhen> jbxyo, you need to use 'sudo'
[06:12] <jbxyo> ok
[06:12] <devhen> jbxyo: sudo apt-get install package-name
[06:12] <jbxyo> i know
[06:12] <Shannon1> Can anyone explain to me why on a laptop the mouse would work fine with 5.10 install and live cd and not work on 6.06 install as well as live cd
[06:12] <bderrly> heh, sorry, i always forget that part because i aliased apt-get to "sudo apt-get"
[06:14] <deFrysk> bderrly, put apt-get to sudo apt-get in the replace section of xchat
[06:14] <jbxyo> And now how I start gparted ^^ (sorry i realy new to ubuntu)
[06:14] <ryanpg> ugh... on part of the problem seems to be /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root isn't what should be / instead it's /dev/shared
[06:15] <bderrly> deFrysk, good idea
[06:16] <jbxyo> ...Im so stupid
[06:16] <devhen> ryanpg: if your / partition is at /dev/hda1 for example, use /dev/hda1 and / as the mount point. forget about the /dev/mapper stuff and see if that works
[06:16] <deFrysk> jbxyo, not stupid
[06:16] <ddman> devhen fix broken packages otion tries to remove the package
[06:16] <deFrysk> jbxyo, just working hard
[06:17] <jbxyo> ok...lol
[06:17] <devhen> ddman. hmm. sorry, dont know what to tell you. uninstall and reinstall?
[06:17] <brasko> hi all,  I want to install a cvs server
[06:17] <devhen> ddman, or just ignore it.
[06:17] <brasko> and a cvs web interface
[06:17] <cArNaGe`> css server?
[06:17] <brasko> what are the packages for that?
[06:17] <deFrysk> jbxyo, is the disk you wish to partition mounted ?
[06:17] <brasko> CVS revision control
[06:17] <ddman> devhen: how?
[06:17] <bderrly> brasko, did you type "apt-cache search cvs" on the terminal?
[06:17] <neon_> hi, i had be configured shared-admin with samba support, but if i wanna get support for nfs, how can i configure it again?
[06:17] <brasko> I"m looking at the synaptic choices
[06:18] <devhen> ddman, in synaptic you can mark a package for re-installation. give that a shot
[06:18] <ddman> i want the synaptic to ignore it but how i do this?
[06:18] <brasko> cvsd maybe?
[06:18] <brasko> no, that's not it
[06:18] <jbxyo> i want to make a part of my extern HD in ext3 to put some fil
[06:18] <ryanpg> devhen, my / is supposed to be LVM (hda5)
[06:19] <brasko> does 'cvs' give you both the client and the server ?
[06:19] <neon_> jeje
[06:19] <ryanpg> devhen, if I try root=/dev/hda5 or even mount /dev/hda5 it doesn't work
[06:19] <ddman> i didn't made myself very clear sorry. So I installed a package with dpkg -i --force
[06:19] <deFrysk> jbxyo, what fs is on it now ?
[06:19] <devhen> ryanpg, ok, replace first two parts of the / line in fstab with /dev/hda5 and /
[06:19] <devhen> ryanpg, then reboot
[06:19] <jbxyo> what mean fs...
[06:19] <deFrysk> file system
[06:19] <fyrestrtr> brasko: cvsd is just a wrapper to run cvs pserver
[06:19] <jbxyo> oh
[06:20] <reaper> can someone help me install flash player?
[06:20] <jbxyo> On my computer
[06:20] <deFrysk> jbxyo, no on your extern hd
[06:20] <ryanpg> devhen, k, will try
[06:20] <brasko> hmm, so does 'cvs' have the server also?
[06:20] <jbxyo> ...
[06:20] <fyrestrtr> reaper: read the restrictedformats wiki entry, it tells you there how to install it.
[06:20] <ddman> devhen the debian package has dependecies on newer vesion of libraries
[06:20] <jrib> reaper: have you seen the wiki page?
[06:20] <fyrestrtr> brasko: I think so, although I only use svn.
[06:20] <reaper> thanks
[06:20] <Hexidigital> anyone know if there are any CLI pdf viewers?
[06:21] <jrib> !flash > reaper
[06:21] <jbxyo> I make a partition on my intern hd and i want to make a part of my extern hd on ext3
[06:21] <deFrysk> jbxyo, may I give you some easy advice for now ?
[06:21] <reaper> jrib: i dont get it
[06:21] <brasko> fyrestrtr: yeah, this is work crap :(
[06:21] <jbxyo> ummm
[06:21] <jbxyo> i just want to start gparted but how
[06:21] <ddman> :-|
[06:21] <deFrysk> jbxyo, just format it to vfat in windows , it runs perfectly in windows AND linux
[06:22] <jrib> reaper: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:22] <deFrysk> vfat is the way to go
[06:22] <jbxyo> thz
[06:22] <jbxyo> thx *
[06:22] <jbxyo> i can write on it ?
[06:22] <Hexidigital> jbxyo: to run gparted, ALT + F2, and type gksudo gparted
[06:22] <krang> New users don't seem to get a .Xsession file in their home dir. Where should I copy it from if I want to give them one that can then be canged?
[06:22] <deFrysk> jbxyo, saves you hassle and you can learn later more about partitioning
[06:22] <deFrysk> vfat is read and write for windows AND linux
[06:22] <Hexidigital> krang: did they log in at least once yet?
[06:22] <devhen> deFrysk, disagreed, explorer in winXP doesnt sort files on vfat properly for me :(
[06:23] <jbxyo> K thx
[06:23] <deFrysk> devhen, since when ?
[06:23] <dr_willis> Huh.
[06:23] <krang> Hexidigital: yes
[06:23] <devhen> deFrysk, since i can remember. i have to hit refresh after bringing up a folder for the files to be sorted alphabetically
[06:23] <deFrysk> my vfat partition has no probs whatsoever
[06:23] <fyrestrtr> krang: you normally don't need it, I don't have it in my ~ and no problems with X.
[06:23] <Hexidigital> krang: that's odd... how did you create the users? gui or cli?
[06:23] <devhen> deFrysk. hmm. no worries. linux sorts it properly ;)
[06:24] <deFrysk> cool ;)
[06:24] <deFrysk> linux rules anyway
[06:24] <devhen> yep yep
[06:24] <krang> Hexidigital: cli, adduser
[06:24] <Hexidigital> krang: i'm out of ideas then... i was going to have you do that :( sorry
[06:24] <ddman> can someone help me please
[06:24] <ompaul> !help
[06:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:25] <ubotu> foo
[06:25] <ompaul> !ask
[06:25] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:25] <devhen> ddman needs help with broken package, dependency. if someone can help him.
[06:25] <ddman> I installed dc++ form debian repository like this:    dpkg -i --force depends linuxdcpp_0.0.1.cvs20060613-1_i386.deb
[06:25] <krang> fyrestrtr: I actually want to run a couple of lines of script to increment a counter every time a user logs on, though
[06:25] <ddman> now synaptic complains I have broken package
[06:25] <ddman> if I want to "fix broken packages"
[06:25] <devhen> ddman, sorry, im still a bit of a newb with apt-get. been using yum for too long ;)
[06:26] <krang> Hexidigital: damn, thanks anyway
[06:26] <ddman> it marks it for removal
[06:26] <ddman> I do not want to remove it
[06:26] <ddman> devhen: ok
[06:26] <deFrysk> yum = yellow dog moloch
[06:26] <ddman> thanks
[06:26] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[06:26] <fyrestrtr> krang: explore /etc/skel/Examples
[06:26] <devhen> ddman, whats  the problem with removing it and re-installing afterward. maybe this is what synaptic wants you to do in order to fix it
[06:26] <nosklo> ddman, it is being marked to removal for a reason, you have to find that out
[06:26] <fyrestrtr> what is dc++ ?
[06:26] <nosklo> ddman, maybe it depends on some package that is being removed
[06:27] <ddman> No you see I installed it with --force depends
[06:27] <ddman> options
[06:27] <sacater> hello
[06:27] <devhen> deFrysk, moloch? yellow dog updater, modified
[06:27] <nosklo> ddman, then you have to deal with it
[06:27] <ddman> the application works fine
[06:27] <ddman> okay
[06:27] <sacater> im just testing my LAN thanks!
[06:27] <ddman> :_
[06:27] <nosklo> ddman, if you are bypassing the package system
[06:27] <ddman> thanks guys
[06:27] <auliya> has anyone set up bugzilla on 6.06 server?
[06:27] <nosklo> ddman, you need to make some stuff by hand
[06:27] <woot> hey, anyone having experience compiling a 2.4 kernel to run dapper on? i have been following some howtos but i seem to get stuck at booting the new kernel when it says starting pcmcia services : fails, and then i end up in text mode...
[06:27] <nosklo> ddman, there is a way where you unpack the package by hand
[06:27] <Ng> woot: 2.4?!
[06:28] <nosklo> ddman, and make a dummy package to pretend it is installed
[06:28] <auliya> having some problems...
[06:28] <Shannon1> hi Hexidigital,, welling to get a rematch agains my non-working mouse,, you left quickly la time we were on the problem
[06:28] <nosklo> ddman, but you loose some of the benefits of using the package system, like automatic updates
[06:28] <ddman> My question is you know how to trick synaptic to ignore a package?
[06:28] <krang> fyrestartr: ok, cheers
[06:28] <woot> jah...I have a Speedtouch PC modem (for adsl) and only drivers avaialbe are some closed source software itex module for 2.4 kernels
[06:28] <Ng> woot: that's going to be quite tricky, things like pcmcia and many other userspace things will be assuming a recent 2.6 (some of them won't even work on 2.6 kernels other than the version ubuntu uses in that release, I would suspect)
[06:28] <ddman> I do want updates
[06:28] <nosklo> ddman, remove the package, and install it by hand
[06:28] <Hexidigital> stupid question.... what is the unmount command (for a cdrom0, etc)
[06:28] <ddman> that's the problem
[06:28] <krang> fyrestrtr, : ok, cheers
[06:28] <ddman> I installed it by hand
[06:28] <devhen> ddman, why did you do --force when installing?
[06:28] <fyrestrtr> krang: yw
[06:28] <ddman> with dpkg
[06:29] <nosklo> ddman, by hand, i mean without dpkg
[06:29] <nosklo> ddman, really by hand
[06:29] <ericmoritz\0> hi
[06:29] <ddman> nosklo: package had dependencies on newer versions of libs
[06:29] <woot> Ng, im gonne be so screwed :) the kernel i was trying to have is 2.4.16
[06:29] <nosklo> ddman, or you can try to satisfy its dependencies by installing dummy empty packages
[06:29] <devhen> Hexidigital, sudo umount /media/cdrom
[06:29] <nosklo> ddman, try using the equivs software to make dummy packages of those libs
[06:29] <woot> but as the pcmcia doenst works out, seems my networkcard isnt recoignized aswell
[06:29] <ddman> nosklo: how do I do that?
[06:29] <krang> fyrestrtr: There's not much in there dude
[06:29] <nosklo> ddman, install equivs
[06:29] <Hexidigital> devhen: thanks :) i forgot it was u not un
[06:30] <Ng> woot: which speedtouch is it?
[06:30] <dustinpn> How do I uninstall something if it doesn't show up as installed
[06:30] <ericmoritz\0> I've noticed that ssh's port forwading quit working.  I've rebooted my machine and tried two different host but I still get: channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 8883  Has anyone noticed this?
[06:30] <devhen> Hexidigital, yep. i do that all the time. you may want to create an alias for unmount
[06:30] <nosklo> ddman, it is no easy task, but in the end you will even have updates
[06:30] <nosklo> ddman, you will have to read and learn about the packaging system
[06:30] <fyrestrtr> krang: when you create new accounts, you can use this skel directory as a ... skeleton for the home directory (that's why its there). If you need to have something auto-added to a user's home directory, add it up there, then read the adduser man page to find out how to tell it to use the skeleton dir when creating new user accounts.
[06:30] <Hexidigital> devhen: working on that now :)
[06:30] <ddman> what if I edit /var/dpkg/status
[06:30] <devhen> ddman, just my .02 but i'd say your better off figuring out a way to install with dpkg or apt-get and satisfy the deps
[06:30] <woot> Ng, Speedtouch PC it is, alcatel made, interal modem,
[06:31] <ddman> and put there lower version numbers
[06:31] <krang> So, anyone, where do i find the script that runs every time a user logs into gdm? /etc/X11/Xsession doesn't seem to work, nor /etc/gdm/Xsession
[06:31] <devhen> ddman, by that i mean avoid --force and --nodeps
[06:31] <nosklo> ddman, that is another way, but you're on your own if you do this
[06:31] <krang> fyrestrtr: I already do that dude
[06:31] <woot> Ng, http://images.google.be/imgres?imgurl=http://www.scan.co.uk/images/products/96220.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3xsproductinfo.asp%3FProductID%3D8444&h=294&w=200&sz=19&hl=nl&start=1&tbnid=db_hDmixUMmvyM:&tbnh=111&tbnw=75&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAlcatel%2BSpeedtouch%2BPCI%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dnl%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:unofficial%26sa%3DN
[06:32] <woot> thats an image of it
[06:32] <Ng> woot: i suppose you could give debian stable a try, I think that still defaults to a 2.4 kernel. It is entirely possible to make it work with ubuntu, but you are going to have to hack a fair few things yourself I would imagine
[06:32] <fyrestrtr> wtf ever heard of tinyurl.com ?
[06:32] <woot> srry fyrestrtr
[06:32] <ddman> nosklo: thanks I like being on my own :)
[06:32] <devhen> ddman, why did you have to use --force?
[06:33] <Ng> woot: you might want to try http://jp.dhs.org/~itex/2.6/
[06:33] <nosklo> ddman, hack apt status files means a lot of knowledge and easy breakage of all system
[06:33] <woot> I guess so Ng
[06:33] <krang> fyrestrtr: my problem is that I don't know what to put in the file I want everyone to have in their home.
[06:33] <woot> ja i know about that
[06:33] <Ng> woot: someone seems to have tried porting the driver to 2.6 no idea if it works though
[06:33] <woot> been emailing with the guy
[06:33] <woot> I tried the 2.6 part an hour ago, but i got stuck at compiling the kernel
[06:33] <devhen> ddman, nosklo, agreed. i think you should try to avoid this
[06:33] <modec> hello, i m using 6.06. I have sound problems. If i turn up the volume I can slightly hear from the headphones. The speakers are always silent. any ideas?
[06:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> Ng, you can boot a sarge cd with 'linux26' to get a not-2.4 kernel
[06:34] <devhen> modec, check volume control, make sure master vol and PCM are turned up
[06:34] <woot> Kamping_Kaiser, the point is, id prefer a 2.4 kernel :p
[06:35] <ddman> nosklo: ok thanks a lot guys. I think can handle it :)
[06:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> woot, ;) just fyi
[06:35] <nosklo> ddman, good luck
[06:35] <modec> devhen: both are up
[06:35] <devhen> lol. good luck ddman let us know if we can help more
[06:36] <devhen> modec, not sure. try the forums on ubuntu.com maybe do a search for the name of your sound card or  mobo (if its integrated)
[06:36] <ddman> it's just dependecies how but can it get, right?
[06:36] <ddman> :))
[06:36] <ddman> how bad*
[06:36] <devhen> ddman, lol, it can get bad :D
[06:36] <modec> devhen: ok i ll search thanks
[06:37] <rmoremar> VETE A LA MIERDA
[06:37] <devhen> ddman, but hey, the programs running so worse case scenario youll just have to ignore synaptics whines
[06:37] <woot> Ng, debian stable is indeed running a 2.4 kernel, 2.4.27 to be specific
[06:38] <ddman> devhen: synaptic, who needs it?
[06:38] <ddman> :))
[06:39] <devhen> ddman :) not me. i stick with apt-get
[06:39] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu needs it
[06:39] <fyrestrtr> you do realize, synaptic is just gui for apt-get, right?
[06:39] <devhen> ahhh no one /needs/ a gui! its linux! :D
[06:39] <ardchoille> lol
[06:40] <ddman> lol
[06:40] <ddman> ao i'll do the change in /var/dpksg/status and the lock the package in synaptics
[06:41] <ddman> it should work, no?
[06:41] <fyrestrtr> no, locking a package just prevents it from being upgraded.
[06:42] <ddman> i know
[06:42] <ddman> I want that
[06:42] <fyrestrtr> if you broke some dependency, or overwrote some lib files that are needed elsewhere, then your system will be unstable, even if it 'appears' to work now.
[06:42] <ddman> since i feed synaptic with fake info
[06:42] <fyrestrtr> safe to say, if you didn't know the internals of the package, you shouldn't have used --force.
[06:43] <ddman> there is no libs
[06:43] <ddman> only an executable and some data
[06:43] <ddman> in the package
[06:43] <ddman> but the executable depends on many libs
[06:44] <ddman> and in debian repository the versions are slightly newer
[06:44] <AngryElf> how come the default apache2.conf file doesn't have DocumentRoot in it anywhere?
[06:44] <ddman> but it works nevertheless
[06:44] <fyrestrtr> AngryElf: because its not used, read the README file
[06:44] <adminstrator____> AngryElf you can set it though
[06:45] <ddman> ok thanks
[06:47] <sam__> hello
[06:48] <linux_user400354> hello
[06:48] <fowlduck> is there a way to set gconf values so that all users inherit them and it overrides whatever is set?
[06:48] <dr_willis> fowlduck,  i dont think so
[06:49] <fowlduck> dr_willis, that.....stinks.....
[06:50] <dr_willis> fowlduck,  perhaps - perhaps not.
[06:51] <dr_willis> there may be some other way to do whatever you are trying to do.
[06:51] <fowlduck> dr_willis, what i'm trying to do is precisely that, this isn't a step towards an ultimate goal, that is the ultimate goal :)
[06:51] <AngryElf> fyrestrtr, adminstrator____ All I'm trying to do is add "AllowOverride All" to my mythweb setup -- none of the docs are ubuntu specific and thus don't work -- where am I suppose to add those tags?
[06:51] <linux_user400354> hello
[06:52] <vincentmz> hi
[06:53] <dr_willis> fowlduck,  kde has various 'lock out the users from doing/changeing things" built in.. takes some research however.. Not seen similer features in gnome . there may be a way. ask in #gnome
[06:54] <fowlduck> dr_willis, i'm changing gconf values to disable, more or less, gnome-volume-manager auto-mounting features
[06:54] <willdev> hello
[06:54] <dr_willis> fowlduck,  keeping the users from bringing porn on their usb drives eh? :P
[06:55] <vincentmz> i've once seen a screenshot of gdm remote logging in on a windows computer running terminal services. how do i do this? when i try to remote login to a windows pc, it says it did not respond within 3 seconds. i can login with tsclient.
[06:55] <willdev> i need help
[06:55] <fowlduck> dr_willis, setting it up for computer forensics
[06:55] <fowlduck> dr_willis, don't want to mount the evidence, thus tamper with it
[06:55] <dr_willis> How techy sounding. :)
[06:55] <Shannon1> can anyone help me with my question posted this morning around 10 :00 and again at 12:12 pleaaasseeeeeeee
[06:56] <doom> hi :)
[06:56] <dr_willis> Shannon1,  gee...  is that local or utc? :P
[06:56] <devhen> Shannon1? question? again?
[06:56] <Shannon1> I know it must be stupid,,but i fnobody reply ill never know..
[06:56] <vincentmz> Shannon1, what's the problem? and stop begging btw
[06:56] <doom> got a big problem "
[06:56] <willdev> how can i run ubuntu with an ati card?
[06:56] <willdev> anyone got a n00b guide?
[06:56] <doom> could you help me please ?
[06:56] <devhen> !ati
[06:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:56] <vincentmz> willdev, install the drivers
[06:56] <dr_willis> !ati
[06:56] <doom> here it is : i've got a trident graphic card (a pci one)
[06:56] <devhen> !ati > willdev
[06:57] <Shannon1> Can anyone explain to me why on a laptop the mouse would work fine with 5.10 install and live cd and not work on 6.06 install as well as live cd
[06:57] <devhen> kind of mouse?
[06:57] <Shannon1> and fix that problem
[06:57] <dr_willis> Shannon1,  i would guess the Xorg.conf is incorrect.
[06:57] <doom> and also could someone explain me how to make another term. instance in text mode ?
[06:57] <willdev> how can i do that guide when i cant even get into the live desktop?
[06:58] <doom> so that i could be on BitchX and lynx at the time
[06:58] <devhen> doom, dont understand your question. how about ctrl-alt F1 - F6
[06:58] <doom> same time*
[06:58] <dr_willis> willdev,  oh.. NOW you are getting to the real problem...
[06:58] <doom> oh tahnksssssssssssss dehven :p
[06:58] <devhen> doom, yw ;)
[06:58] <Shannon1> dr_willis: I did post both xorg.conf earlier,, maybe they still there,,
[06:58] <doom> that was exactly that
[06:58] <willdev> it says it cant get into the xserver
[06:58] <willdev> or somthing like that
[06:58] <Shannon1> want me to repost
[06:58] <dr_willis> Shannon1,  the touchpad works? but not the exteranl mouse?
[06:59] <devhen> willdev, you'll need to be more specific :D
[06:59] <willdev> cant rember the error
[06:59] <willdev> but it said somthing couldent load
[06:59] <willdev> and dumps me into a command prompt
[06:59] <doom> (anyone knowing a good msnmsgr client in text mode?)
[06:59] <Shannon1> the clit,, not a touch pad,, little buttonin center of keyboard,, works fine ,, 5.10 both simultaniously working,, in 6.06 only clit works
[07:00] <devhen> *clit* LMAO
[07:00] <doom> no ? nobody ?
[07:00] <dr_willis> Shannon1,  then its a matter of just doing some altering of the xorg.conf to allow the use of both pointers
[07:00] <dr_willis> it pays to learn the ins and outs of editing the xorg.conf :)
[07:00] <Shannon1> devhen: well sometime litle button is confusing,,
[07:00] <linux_user400354> i cant find my linux hand-held
[07:00] <devhen> Shannon1, well sometimes the clit is confusing :D
[07:01] <devhen> ROFL
[07:01] <doom> look beside the motherboard
[07:01] <knysng> I have a question
[07:01] <Shannon1> I ve tried to change the protocol of 6.06 from ExplorerPS/2 to ImPS/2 from 5.10 didnt make any difference
[07:01] <doom> I have a dream
[07:01] <doom> lol
[07:01] <knysng> what version of Ubuntu do I need for AMD2400++
[07:01] <doom> 6.06 dapper
[07:02] <knysng> well, shich ISO
[07:02] <knysng> I386
[07:02] <knysng> or what
[07:02] <Shannon1> Ive tryed to remove addon stuff regarding tablet pc from 6.06 conf to make it identical to 5.10,, X wouldnt start
[07:02] <doom> got it working with 2600+ so i think 2400 wont be a problem
[07:02] <doom> yes it's an athlonxp
[07:02] <knysng> so i386 not amd64 correct?
[07:02] <doom> yes
[07:02] <knysng> cause the install keeps hanging out
[07:03] <knysng> up
[07:03] <knysng> haha
[07:03] <doom> hmm
[07:03] <knysng> hanging up, of course, when it wants to mount the main file syste,
[07:03] <Shannon1> I even tried to add GLcore to 6.06 conf to make it identical to 5.10,, X wouldnt start
[07:03] <knysng> so at the very beginning of the installation
[07:03] <doom> tried a live CD ?
[07:03] <_absolution_> is FTP a faster download?
[07:03] <knysng> yeah
[07:03] <doom> ftp isn't faster
[07:04] <doom> everything depends your onnection
[07:04] <doom> connection
[07:04] <knysng> I am just gonna try it again
[07:04] <knysng> thanks
[07:04] <doom> so, someone knowing a good msn messenger client in text-mode ?
[07:04] <doom> damned i found the win' logo can change the term
[07:05] <doom> ttyx
[07:05] <doom> eek damned
[07:05] <doom> f* parents must go
[07:05] <doom> cya all
[07:06] <vb_coder> hello
[07:06] <Shannon1> dr_willis: ive repost config original, ,, the on efrom one hrs ago is present, and the other i sfrom 5.10
[07:07] <longg> quien vive
[07:07] <vincentmz> vb_coder??? by vb you're not referring to visual basic are you?
[07:08] <Shannon1> dr_willis: and since im on my 2nd week on linux,, maybe I dont see the obvious,, thats why I need a trainned eye to explain to me what wrong
[07:08] <dr_willis> Shannon1,  the area to check out would be the  input devices area.
[07:09] <dr_willis> Shannon1,  could be related to the change to udev in the dapper release
[07:09] <linux_user400354> yes visual basic, its great because you cant use it linux
[07:11] <slimdog360> okay is it working
[07:12] <slimdog360> or am I in a different channel
[07:12] <slimdog360> different channel
[07:14] <cj> is there a meta package which installs all tools required to do your standard, run-of-the-mill development?
[07:14] <Shannon1> ah,, now starting to get somewhere,, can ew fix that udev stuff somehow
[07:14] <vincentmz> linux_user400354: if you can't use it in linux, it's probably no good
[07:14] <Shannon1> oups,, lost helper again,,
[07:14] <Deimoz> \0/ ubuntu lives on my compal cl56 :+ retart notebook
[07:15] <Shannon1> anyone else can continue?
[07:15] <vincentmz> btw, instead of using MS .NET, try Mono
[07:15] <Redman276> is there a  ppc distro of  ubuntu ?
[07:15] <vincentmz> Redman276, yes
[07:15] <Redman276> url ?
[07:15] <[GuS] > Hi people
[07:16] <[GuS] > is there any packager online?
[07:16] <Deimoz> Redman276 ftp://ftpserv.tudelft.nl/pub/Linux/releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-powerpc.iso
[07:16] <devhen> Redman276: http://www.ubuntu.com/download, choose a mirror, choose mac (powerpc) version
[07:17] <devhen> Redman276: obviously ;)
[07:17] <Redman276> muchly appreciated , in the  last  week  6.06  has  replaced  my   5 yr  RH server and  4  outta 8   xp boxes ,  Kudos  to the  DEV team :D
[07:17] <gatekeeper> [GuS] : packager online?
[07:18] <ndookie> hello
[07:18] <[GuS] > i am packaging tcl and tk8.5 for Ubuntu
[07:18] <[GuS] > but with a weird problem
[07:19] <oskude> [GuS] , cool, that one with ttf support ?
[07:19] <gatekeeper> [GuS] : ohh outside my experience sorry
[07:19] <[GuS] > xft you mean
[07:19] <[GuS] > the deb builds without any problems.. but there are some libraries that is not being included like msgcat
[07:19] <oskude> [GuS] , well, xtf is to support ttf (true type fonts)
[07:19] <ndookie> does anyone know of any wireless diagnostic tools for ubuntu , im using 6.06 LTS
[07:19] <[GuS] > indeed in the make process it says: "Installing msgcat as module"
[07:19] <vincentmz> [GuS] , for packaging things for ubuntu universe, you should join #ubuntu-motu
[07:19] <[GuS] > but is not being included in the deb.
[07:20] <oskude> [GuS] , are you doing with checkinstall or "the right way" ?
[07:20] <devhen> ndookie, what do you mean by diagnostics? whats the problem?
[07:20] <[GuS] > the righ way
[07:20] <[GuS] > debhelper
[07:20] <[GuS] > ok i will
[07:20] <oskude> [GuS] , good look, i would have use for that package :)
[07:20] <[GuS] > this not happen with tcl8.4 indeed
[07:20] <[GuS] > maybe a Makefile bug of tcl8.5
[07:20] <ndookie> devhen : well , im not connecting to my wireless , everything else is working , the router and my wireless adapter are just not connecting , every setting is correct..just cant seem to find the problem
[07:21] <nooby_god> Are there any devs here?
[07:21] <ndookie> devhen : so , im looking for a program that i can use to search for wireless networks
[07:21] <devhen> ndookie, hmm. sorry. dont know if i can help. in the past i have found several programs on the web for configuring wireless networks maybe try one of them
[07:21] <nooby_god> I want Ubuntu Edgy to feature whore from Suse 10.1, espescially the beagle integreation
[07:21] <ndookie> devhen : you know the name of any ?
[07:21] <MarcN> anyone using beagle in dapper?  It doesn't seem to be indexing my f-spot photos.
[07:21] <devhen> ndookie, sry dont have a URL off the top of my head. do a google for linux wireless
[07:22] <ndookie> devhen : thanks
[07:22] <devhen> ndookie, one is NetworkManager
[07:22] <ndookie> ok , i'll google it
[07:23] <devhen> ndookie, i think NetworkManager is installed by default (could be wrong) check to see if its running in 'services'
[07:23] <ndookie> devhen : http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[07:23] <gunnzi> I had to install it afterwards
[07:23] <emaz> somebody has the wireless card Dell 1390 detected by Ubuntu???
[07:23] <devhen> ndookie, sudo system-config-services see if NetworkManager is listed at the top and see if its running/set to run at startup
[07:24] <ndookie> i dont think its installed
[07:24] <devhen> ndookie, if not, sudo apt-get install NetworkManager should install it
[07:24] <ndookie> i'll have to take all this down , because im on windows right now
[07:24] <devhen> ndookie, yeah, im on fedora so i cant check to make sure im right :/
[07:24] <ndookie> oh ok
[07:25] <ndookie> i'll download the tarball too
[07:25] <ndookie> just incase
[07:25] <ndookie> but remember , no internet access on the computer either
[07:25] <ndookie> >_>
[07:25] <devhen> ndookie, im sure youll find the package in the ubuntu repos. im yet to have to isntall from source on ubuntu ;)
[07:25] <dustinpn> When I play ut2k4, instead of having it fit 1 monitor, it centers on both of them, how do I fix this?
[07:26] <bigfoot1> how can i find out the names of the files that are in a tar. file, using terminal?
[07:26] <unstablesob> tar tvf tarfile.tar
[07:26] <devhen> !info tar
[07:26] <ubotu> tar: GNU tar. In repository main, is required. Version 1.15.1-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 506 kB, installed size 1784 kB
[07:26] <oskude> ndookie, i wouldnt use _any_ tarballs for installing, if you dont know what youre doing (or how to uninstall from "tarball")
[07:26] <bigfoot1> unstablesob:  thanks
[07:26] <skavenge> no inet makes installing damn near everything hard i've found .. it'd be nice if there was an option to download a package and all dependencies with it all done up in a nice tarball or something
[07:26] <bigfoot1> devhen: i don't want to unpack the tar, justn to find out the contens
[07:27] <ndookie> hmm , i have a fair idea , but wont i need internet access to get the file on apt-get
[07:27] <emaz> somebody can help me to install the drivers for the wireless card "Dell 1390" in Ubuntu???
[07:27] <oskude> skarface, im pretty sure there a command (or option) for just to download some packages (and their deps)
[07:27] <ndookie> ndiswrapper -i driver.inf
[07:27] <devhen> bigfoot1, unstablesob may be right: tar tvf tarfile.tar
[07:27] <singamayya> howdy
[07:28] <ndookie> anyone here on their ubuntu system ?
[07:28] <adminstrator____> ndookie its recomend the .sys file be in the same directory aswell...
[07:28] <oskude> emaz, have you search google for "ubuntu dell 1390" or "linux dell 1390" (there are many howtos for notebooks these days...)
[07:28] <ndookie> admin : oh , sorry , i forgot to say that
[07:28] <ryanpg> Yay! Ok, I got really close! In /dev/mapper there is no Ubuntu-root but there IS /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-lvol0 so... editing grub to replace Ubuntu-root with Ubuntu-lvol0 allows me to boot!
[07:28] <devhen> bigfoot1, that should be right because it doesnt include the x argument which tell it to extract
[07:28] <bigfoot1> devhen: he's right! thanks devhen and unstablesob
[07:29] <ndookie> ok devhen
[07:29] <ndookie> thanks
[07:29] <ryanpg> what's weird is /etc/fstab has a line "Ubuntu-root / ext3 defaults 0 0" and once I boot mount tells me / is in fact /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root
[07:29] <bigfoot1> i like how MS Word allows you to do selective copying of text by holding the ALT key as you select text. It won't copy things line by line, but whatever is in the box-of-selection that your mouse has made. Can this be done in Ubuntu (in terminal, etc)?
[07:29] <ndookie> im going to switch to ubuntu now and see what i can do
[07:30] <dustinpn> anyone here with dual display know how to constrain the game to 1 screen>?
[07:30] <ryanpg> why does Ubuntu-lvol0 show up in /dev/mapper but not Ubuntu-root?
[07:30] <afflux> nabend...
[07:31] <debarshi> does anybody know of a nice ogg vorbis tag reader
[07:33] <oskude> debarshi, apt-cache search ogg vorbis tag, gave me "tagtool - tool to tag and rename MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files", among others...
[07:33] <doom> quit
[07:34] <doom> i'm back.
[07:34] <doom> please, could someone tell me the command to search on the apt files ?
[07:34] <airmikey> wow this takeing like forever to load ubuntu desktop on server
[07:34] <debarshi> oskude, ok I will do a google... apparently ogginfo is there too
[07:34] <Hexidigital_> when upgrading a breezy LAMP server to dapper, the sources.list file should be the only thing to be changed, correct?
[07:34] <oskude> doom, apt-cache search blah blah ?
[07:35] <zOap> doom, do you mean the cache?
[07:35] <doom> yesss
[07:35] <doom> thanks :)
[07:35] <Engnome> doom how bout using synaptic
[07:35] <Engnome> ?
[07:35] <zOap> doom, read the apt manual
[07:35] <oskude> debarshi, you can allso search with synaptic package manager
[07:35] <debarshi> ok ok
[07:35] <narfmaster> there is also dpkg -S filename
[07:36] <oskude> and http://packages.ubuntu.com :)
[07:36] <slowz3r> hey
[07:37] <andy-> oskude: whats the link to use to add those to repository?
[07:37] <nooby_god> Does anyone know how I can have the latest and greatest packages without compiling them my self?
[07:37] <oskude> andy-, dont understand, could you rephrase
[07:38] <narfmaster> nooby_god, select "Add/Remove..."
[07:38] <skavenge> what would be the equivilent of a ncurses-dev or ncurses-devel package in ubuntu? I'm trying to compile something and it says it needs to be installed ...
[07:38] <nooby_god> narfmaster like packages not in the respitories
[07:38] <LjL> skavenge: libncurses5-dev
[07:38] <nooby_god> Inkscape 0.44
[07:38] <oskude> skavenge, try "apt-cache search ncurses dev"
[07:38] <narfmaster> nooby_god, look for a Debian or Ubuntu deb file
[07:39] <skavenge> LjL; hm yeah thats what i installed and its still not seeing it .. the ./configure is looking for a certain function and its not seeing it for some reason
[07:39] <slowz3r> Can anyone tell me what might be wrong or what im doing wrong...but no matter what i do I cant get Ubuntu to boot off the CD so i can install....
[07:39] <skavenge> the ./configure wants tgetent() , whatever that is
[07:39] <doom> please what is the driver to load on xorg.conf with a trident card ?
[07:39] <LjL> skavenge: don't exclude the possibility that the configure is broken... anyway, you could try with auto-apt
[07:39] <LjL> !build-essential > skavenge
[07:40] <skavenge> ive got build essential installed already too
[07:40] <LjL> skavenge: i know. but that talks about auto-apt too
[07:40] <doom> please what is the driver to load on xorg.conf with a trident card ? !
[07:40] <oskude> slowz3r, it doesnt the boot cd at all ?
[07:40] <slowz3r> oskude: ya i cant get it to boot off the CD
[07:40] <dpn> How crucial is having a swap file partition
[07:41] <doom> very crucial
[07:41] <doom> please what is the driver to load on xorg.conf with a trident card ? !
[07:41] <narfmaster> doofm, xserver-xorg-driver-trident
[07:41] <slowz3r> oskude: and yes my compuiter is set to boot from CD
[07:41] <dpn> is it the reason im grinding to a hault sometimes
[07:41] <oskude> slowz3r, did you set in the computer bios to boot from cd before the harddisk ?
[07:41] <oskude> slowz3r, ok :)
[07:41] <doom> certainly
[07:41] <jbxyo> ...hmmm
[07:41] <dpn> can I add one from within lunix
[07:41] <slowz3r> oskude: :)
[07:41] <doom> yyes
[07:41] <LjL> skavenge: does "man tgetent" work for you?
[07:41] <doom> use gparted
[07:42] <doom> or qpart
[07:42] <oskude> slowz3r, how did you burn the cd ? have you burned iso images before ?
[07:42] <doom> or whatever partitionning program u want
[07:42] <Engnome> I need a pointer here, where should I begin to look for X server keyboard errors? (one of my keys stopped working)
[07:42] <doom> please what is the driver to load on xorg.conf with a trident card ? !
[07:42] <jbxyo> I want a conpatible version of mercury messenger ubuntu...
[07:42] <slowz3r> oskude: ya i have
[07:42] <doom> mercury messenger is in java
[07:42] <doom> it should work everywhere
[07:42] <jbxyo> ...
[07:42] <jbxyo> but it dont work
[07:42] <cypher1> can i upgrade to dapper from breezy if i have just the cdrom in sources.list ?
[07:42] <doom> you just need java installed
[07:43] <jbxyo> it start and close
[07:43] <jbxyo> oh
[07:43] <slowz3r> oskude: i burned an iso of mandriva and it worked fine but i just couldnt get it to install properly so thats why im doin ubuntu
[07:43] <doom> (Sun's java works best)
[07:43] <WooD> Hi ! I have a .sh file to run .. what is the command to start it plsease ?
[07:43] <JGL> Can someone help me set up lirc?
[07:43] <jbxyo> ok
[07:43] <doom> ./file.sh
[07:43] <narfmaster> WooD, sh file.sh
[07:43] <cypher1> WooD, sh filename.sh
[07:44] <david1901> xsane doesn't work yet my scanner is plugged and recognised
[07:44] <narfmaster> :)
[07:44] <WooD> thanks narfmaster, cypher1 doom
[07:44] <oskude> slowz3r, ok, hmm... did you do a md5 check on the downloaded iso file ? or can you mount it on windose (if you are on windows that is)
[07:44] <jbxyo> java linux rpm or linux normal
[07:44] <doom> linux normal
[07:44] <jbxyo> ok
[07:44] <doom> or debina package if it is
[07:44] <doom> debian
[07:44] <jbxyo> thx
[07:44] <eexpress> 
[07:45] <ramblingturtle> hello everyone, I was wondering is there a way to install the LAMP server packages with synaptic from the desktop install or do I have to install each package?
[07:45] <skavenge> !lamp
[07:45] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:45] <eexpress> 
[07:45] <slowz3r> oskude: never did an md5 check.
[07:45] <doom> !trident
[07:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about trident
[07:45] <doom> :(
[07:45] <eexpress> 
[07:45] <doom> :(
[07:45] <LjL> eexpress: ?
[07:45] <rpedro> is aiglx any more stable than XGL ?
[07:45] <[GuS] > O.o
[07:45] <dpn> Guys, why is unreal2k4 playing centered between my two monitors?  my metamodes is set to:
[07:45] <ramblingturtle> ubotu: thank you
[07:45] <dpn> Option 		"Metamodes"   "1680x1050,1280x1024;1680x1050"
[07:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about thank you
[07:46] <dpn> shouldnt that work
[07:46] <jbxyo> whit what i execute .bin :S
[07:46] <eexpress> 
[07:46] <doom> must go
[07:46] <doom> cya
[07:46] <doom> :(-
[07:46] <LjL> !cn
[07:46] <oskude> slowz3r, with md5 check you could be sure that the downloaded file is _exactly_ the same as on the server you downloaded it...
[07:46] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[07:46] <jbxyo> !.bin
[07:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about .bin
[07:46] <narfmaster> bye doom
[07:46] <cypher1> !dapper
[07:46] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[07:46] <jbxyo> crap
[07:46] <eexpress> also bot here.hh
[07:46] <jbxyo> bye doom
[07:46] <doom> (please if you got any way to install the trident drivers,k doom.ooseventh@mail.com)
[07:46] <cypher1> ubotu, dapper
[07:46] <vcelsinho> Oi
[07:46] <doom> @gmail
[07:46] <doom> +++
[07:46] <cypher1> !dapper drake
[07:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about dapper drake
[07:46] <cypher1> hmm
[07:47] <slowz3r> oskude: ok ill try that not realy quick
[07:47] <cypher1> !breezy
[07:47] <vcelsinho> Oi
[07:47] <ubotu> breezy was the third release of Ubuntu. Version 5.10, codename "Breezy Badger"
[07:47] <cypher1> lol
[07:47] <eexpress> :)  :(  ;)  :o  :D  8-)  :|  :'(  :p  '<
[07:47] <cypher1> what happened to ubotu
[07:47] <vcelsinho> i
[07:47] <LjL> eexpress: may i know what you're trying to do?
[07:47] <vcelsinho> Oiu
[07:47] <cypher1> ubotu not recognizing dapper !!!
[07:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about not recognizing dapper !!!
[07:47] <eexpress> ubotu: is a bot
[07:47] <cypher1> ubotu, dapper
[07:47] <cypher1> !dapper
[07:47] <cypher1> !breezy
[07:47] <ubotu> breezy was the third release of Ubuntu. Version 5.10, codename "Breezy Badger"
[07:47] <oskude> slowz3r, if youre on win32, you could try this http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:48] <LjL> eexpress: yes, ubotu's a bot
[07:48] <cypher1> eexpress, yes i know.. but look it says it does not know dapper while it knows breezy
[07:48] <lz1gjd> is there any difference in installed system when using ubuntu livecd's install and the normal text-mode installation method ?
[07:48] <slowz3r> oskude: ok ill try that
[07:48] <cypher1> some one has to update it lol
[07:48] <jbxyo> How i can get my superuser password ?
[07:48] <oskude> slowz3r, and the correct md5 sums for the images are on the download servers, like here: ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/linux/ubuntu/releases/6.06/MD5SUMS
[07:48] <eexpress> seems the bot know how to search some knowledge/
[07:48] <vcelsinho> do you speek inglesh?
[07:49] <eexpress> !picture
[07:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about picture
[07:49] <jbxyo> haha
[07:49] <Engnome> !life
[07:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about life
[07:49] <Engnome> :D
[07:49] <jbxyo> xD
[07:49] <jbxyo> lol
[07:49] <cypher1> !ubuntu
[07:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[07:49] <vb_coder_> !mplayer
[07:49] <jbxyo> !ass
[07:49] <ubotu> No fonts in mplayer? Install mplayer fonts. Codecs: see !codecs
[07:49] <eexpress> !doom
[07:49] <cypher1> :)
[07:49] <sebastian> I installed VMware player from the VMware site into Breezy which I later upgraded to Dapper.  However now I want to remove VMware player and insatll server instead.
[07:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about ass
[07:49] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[07:49] <sebastian> how do I remove VMwarep layer?
[07:49] <slowz3r> oskude: ill try and get back to u
[07:49] <jbxyo> !codec
[07:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about codec
[07:49] <JGL> Can someone help me set up lirc?
[07:49] <vb_coder_> !music
[07:49] <oskude> slowz3r, and even if the file has just 1bit changed, the md5 checksum would be totally different, so you see it even with eyes if its not the same...
[07:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about music
[07:49] <jbxyo> !codecs
[07:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:49] <oskude> slowz3r, roger
[07:50] <skavenge> !abuse
[07:50] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:50] <sebastian> surely it's just some command for the shell to remove VMware player?  ,but what
[07:50] <eexpress> screen rolls too fast
[07:50] <vb_coder_> !opera
[07:50] <ubotu> An advanced and free (only as in price) Web browser. Howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser - Latest Ubuntu packages always at: http://opera.com/download
[07:50] <gatekeeper> lz1gjd: the end result is the same, one uses a text installer the other a gui, haven't tried the text installer may give you a little more control not sure
[07:50] <swerves> hello, does anyone know how to set up phpMyAdmin?
[07:50] <jbxyo> How i can get my superuser password ????????6
[07:50] <Paulinha> hELLO
[07:50] <LjL> eexpress: the bot merely gives canned replies to keywords starting with a !
[07:50] <skavenge> jbxyo; its your regular account password
[07:50] <eexpress> LjL: if you can read Chinese?
[07:50] <cypher1> can i upgrade to dapper from breezy by just using the install/live cd ?
[07:50] <oskude> swerves, sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[07:50] <Paulinha> hELLO
[07:50] <lz1gjd> the livecd has a working gnome desktop and 30mbs more for windows applications, and has similar size to the alternative install cd, so something should be missing, how do i find what ?
[07:51] <jbxyo> But it say Authentication failure
[07:51] <LjL> eexpress: i can't read chinese, i just know that the bot has a "cn" factoid directing people to the chinese channels
[07:51] <narfmaster> Paulinha, hello
[07:51] <jbxyo> !bin
[07:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about bin
[07:51] <LjL> eexpress: to be honest i wasn't even sure if you were writing chinese or japanese
[07:51] <gatekeeper> cypher1: have you got broadband connection?
[07:51] <swerves> it says unknown package
[07:51] <eexpress> LjL: ooo.
[07:51] <swerves> phpmyadmin
[07:51] <jbxyo> Skavenge, But it say Authentication failure
[07:51] <cypher1> gatekeeper, yes i do have.. but i do not want to download now
[07:52] <alexfittyfives> Hi, I'm using w32codecs from repository deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free - is this alright or should I be using something else?
[07:52] <oskude> swerves, then its propably not in the "main" reposity, sec
[07:52] <cypher1> gatekeeper, i have the install/live cd with me
[07:52] <swerves> i have it installed, but it gives me error #1045, access denied
[07:52] <WooD> comment faire pour executer un .py ?
[07:52] <skavenge> jbxyo; something else is going on then unless you changed the root password, if your using sudo its your regular password
[07:52] <jbxyo> I do su on the terminal and when i enter my password, it's say Authentication failure
[07:52] <LjL> WooD: "phython filename.py", je crois... mais...
[07:52] <LjL> !fr
[07:52] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:53] <WooD> thanks ! ;)
[07:53] <narfmaster> jbxyo, type sudo -i, then enter your password
[07:53] <WooD> LjL: Thanks
[07:53] <LjL> WooD: sorry "python" not "phython"
[07:53] <jbxyo> ok
[07:53] <oskude> swerves, follow the instructions here to activate the "universe" reposity https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories (phpmyadmin is in universe reposity)
[07:53] <jbxyo> ???
[07:53] <slowz3r> oskude: for some reason when i tupe the command in it says the system can not find the specified path
[07:54] <_absolution_> in order for sound to work again (I just ran xmms) do I need to restart the computer?
[07:54] <sebastian>  Hi I installed VMware player into Breezy from the VMware site.  and I have upgraded to Dapper and I want to remove VMware player now and have server instead.  ,but I do not know. how
[07:54] <sebastian> surely it's just some basic command in the shell?  ,but I don't know what
[07:54] <gatekeeper> cypher1: not sure how you would use the liveCD other than a fresh install, you could backup the bits you want, install then do a restore but the easiest way is to install the update-manager and use that
[07:54] <sebastian> and so I carn't remove it from the package manager
[07:54] <jbxyo> Type sudo -i and if I type my pass it's do can't find command
[07:54] <cypher1> gatekeeper, thanks
[07:55] <oskude> slowz3r, well, you have to have it in the path variable (yes, windows has it too), or you have to have it in the same dir where you want to use it...
[07:55] <jbxyo> oh
[07:55] <WooD> LjL: It works .. sa marche
[07:55] <jbxyo> i see
[07:55] <dpn> God, I messed up my xorg file, so I used my backup
[07:55] <jbxyo> sorry
[07:55] <dpn> now It won't let me goto my login screen
[07:55] <eexpress> i got those message when i plug my usb disk to machine: just uhci_hcd, not ehci_hcd.
[07:55] <eexpress> [4320912.174000]  usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[07:55] <eexpress> [4320912.325000]  usb 1-1: not running at top speed; connect to a high speed hub
[07:55] <eexpress> but i truelly the usb port is usb2.0. how can i do. LjL if have some advice?
[07:55] <oskude> slowz3r, or copy it to windoze/syste32 dir, or so...
[07:55] <slowz3r> oskude: thats where i put it
[07:55] <andy-> oops, clicked "remove" in repository window, how can i check which one i deleted =\
[07:56] <LjL> eexpress: i wouldn't know :(
[07:56] <Paulinha> dO YOU SPEEK PORTUGUESE
[07:56] <Paulinha> ?
[07:56] <Paulinha> ?
[07:56] <Paulinha> ?
[07:56] <Paulinha> ?
[07:56] <Paulinha> ?
[07:56] <Paulinha> ?
[07:56] <Rez> Warning: `Paulinha' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[07:56] <Paulinha> ?
[07:56] <Paulinha> ?
[07:56] <dpn> shut the fuck up
[07:56] <eexpress> so sad. LjL
[07:56] <oskude> slowz3r, well, im no windows administrator, so cant really say whats wrong...
[07:56] <LjL> !pt
[07:56] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[07:56] <slowz3r> oskude: no problem
[07:57] <gatekeeper> cypher1: *warning* update-manager will download what it needs :-)
[07:57] <oskude> slowz3r, btw, what was your command ?
[07:57] <skavenge> anyway to get the emulation in a terminal window in X the same as in console? in irc especially all characters show up fine in cli but in a window in X i get all these wierd ?s characters instead of what its supposed to be?
[07:57] <slowz3r> oskude: "cd \path\to\cddir
[07:57] <oskude> slowz3r, :/ thats er... wrong... totally :)
[07:57] <cypher1> gatekeeper, i want the update to use the cd i have and not to download anything from the internet
[07:58] <pepsmir> hi there
[07:58] <slowz3r> oskue: thats what the thing said..im not familier with commands in windows
[07:58] <pepsmir> any ideas on how i can convert a divx .avi to a VCD?
[07:58] <slowz3r> lol
[07:58] <LjL> pepsmir: perhaps ffmpeg or mencoder
[07:58] <oskude> slowz3r, yeah, than ms for that :/ where is your iso file ?
[07:58] <jbxyo> how i do dash lol :P
[07:58] <skavenge> -
[07:59] <slowz3r> oskude: my desktop
[07:59] <roostishaw> how can i find out what processor im running?
[08:00] <asdasldkfadgf> QUESTION: When will ubuntu be issueing a new kernel in response to recent security flaws....and will it be a patch or a new kernel like.... 2.6.17 : )
[08:00] <sztanpet> roostishaw  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[08:00] <oskude> slowz3r, well, i dont remember where desktop was in windose... maybe drag and drop the URL from IE to the command cd on the terminal...
[08:00] <_absolution_> I'm trying to burn some mp3's using K3B.....and it's not working
[08:00] <roostishaw> sztanpet, thank you
[08:00] <asdasldkfadgf> ubotu tell _absolution_ about mp3
[08:00] <skavenge> k3b needs a plugin for mp3
[08:00] <slowz3r> ok
[08:00] <oskude> slowz3r, maybe you better search for a GUI md5 tool...
[08:01] <pepsmir> cook my frozen pizza fo rme
[08:01] <pepsmir> it needs cooking
[08:01] <gatekeeper> cypher1: like I said the only way I know (but others may know different) is to back what is important to you do a fresh install and then restore back the bits you have backed up, e.g. knode folder which holds all the config information
[08:01] <LjL> asdasldkfadgf: when it will be out, i don't know, but it will be a patch rather than a new kernel.
[08:02] <_absolution_> it's telling me that it doesn't support the file format
[08:02] <stefg> asdasldkfadgf: Don't mention the kernel...
[08:02] <graft> please, god, someone tell me how to keep flash from crashing firefox!
[08:02] <skavenge> _absolution_ k3b needs a plugin for mp3 .. read this to install -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[08:02] <asdasldkfadgf> QUESTION: When will ubuntu be issueing a new kernel in response to recent security flaws....and will it be a patch or a new kernel like.... 2.6.17 : )
[08:02] <LjL> asdasldkfadgf: uh, i just answered that.
[08:02] <narfmaster> _absolution_, you might need libk3b2-mp3
[08:02] <oskude> graft, by uninstalling it ;)
[08:02] <gatekeeper> oskude: you mean like format c: ?
[08:03] <graft> oskude: mutter mutter
[08:03] <tore_> Can someone help me to install Wine for ubuntu? PM
[08:03] <_absolution_> do I "apt-get" it?
[08:03] <oskude> gatekeeper, like "cd"
[08:03] <LjL> tore_: "sudo aptitude install wine"
[08:03] <narfmaster> _absolution_, yes
[08:03] <sybec> any problems to using ubuntu as a software development workstation?
[08:03] <_absolution_> ok thanks
[08:03] <tore_> LjL,  thx
[08:03] <graft> sybec: what sort of software?
[08:03] <sybec> C/C++, python, perl and x86 ASM
[08:04] <gatekeeper> oskude: format c: is much more entertaining :-)
[08:04] <sybec> the free, open source kind:-)
[08:04] <eric256> I have two computers with Ubuntu on them, the power settings are set to never sleep (and I've even tried killing the power manger process) but the machines both go to sleep after maybe 20 minutes.  any ideas?  is there anything I can remove/kill to make them stay awake?  i'l also disabled power management on both machines (they are identical HP d220's) but they still turn off the monitors
[08:04] <graft> dunno about assembly stuff, but the rest i've done... i mean, what more do you need than vi and a compiler/interpreter?
[08:04] <LjL> tore_: type "/msg ubotu wine" to get further information, including on how to get more recent versions of wine
[08:04] <shadowpanda> can someone help me set up my "Belkin Wireless Pre-N Notebook Network Card"?
[08:05] <tore_> How do i so install tk to get ams 0.95
[08:05] <tore_> ?
[08:05] <sybec> hm ... good manual pages
[08:05] <viator> hmmm i have the w32codecs installed but cant play a .ram file
[08:05] <pepsmir> no
[08:05] <viator> why is that?
[08:05] <pepsmir> er
[08:05] <asdasldkfadgf> viator install Real Player!
[08:05] <skavenge> ram is realplayer
[08:05] <tore_> I need help to install flashplayer! PM :)
[08:05] <viator> yeah but id rather have one player
[08:05] <craigtmackenzie> i'm havin problems installing ubuntu 6.06 LTS via parallels
[08:06] <viator> for everything
[08:06] <graft> you can get real codecs somewhere...
[08:06] <LjL> viator: VLC works with realplayer files. sometimes.
[08:06] <graft> actually i thought they were in w32codecs already
[08:06] <eric256> any ideas?  .... I've searched all over and I'm sure its got to be something that's easy to fix
[08:06] <gatekeeper> viator: use the deb method
[08:06] <dpn> How do i specify a refresh rate in xorg
[08:06] <eric256> even a program to full them into thinking the mouse was moving would work ;)
[08:06] <shadowpanda> i need help setting up my "Belkin Wireless Pre-N Notebook Network Card"
[08:06] <shadowpanda> i need help setting up my "Belkin Wireless Pre-N Notebook Network Card"
[08:06] <craigtmackenzie> version 5.10 worked fine, so i did an update from the update manager and it dies on restart
[08:06] <shadowpanda> ooops sorry
[08:06] <LjL> dpn: try this http://www.dkfz.de/spec/linux/modeline/
[08:06] <graft> eric256: what sort of sleep is it?
[08:06] <narfmaster> eric256, maybe it's a BIOS setting
[08:07] <graft> eric256: also are they laptops?
[08:07] <viator> i thought real codecs were handled via w32 but i guess not?
[08:07] <sebastian> 5.10?   Ubuntu?
[08:07] <eric256> moitor turns off, they are desktops, doesn't suspend just turns off the monitor
[08:07] <craigtmackenzie> sebastian: me?
[08:07] <viator> !real
[08:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about real
[08:07] <sebastian> yes
[08:07] <viator> !realplayer
[08:07] <eric256> narfmaster I've been all over the bios and just disabled power management all together
[08:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:07] <graft> eric256: oh... you mean it just blanks the display...
[08:07] <ketethatooblack> i need help on music in linux
[08:07] <craigtmackenzie> i'm pretty sure that was the version the previous version before 6.06
[08:07] <eric256> graft yes
[08:07] <ketethatooblack> what extension line like mp3 wwworks best with music
[08:08] <ketethatooblack> can anyone help me when it comes to music
[08:08] <skavenge> .ogg is the default in ubuntu
[08:08] <shadowpanda> i need help setting up my "Belkin Wireless Pre-N Notebook Network Card" Please!
[08:08] <ketethatooblack> skavenge: thank you
[08:08] <rexin> can sombody help me with installing GRUB on an EFI system?
[08:08] <eric256> dear god shadwopanda do you think that's giong to help?
[08:08] <ketethatooblack> skavenge: how do i find music with .ogg extensions
[08:08] <LjL> shadowpanda: stop spamming and have patience. if someone knows, they'll tell you
[08:08] <oskude> dpn, the monitor HorizSync and VertRefresh are set in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (your monitors manual should know those or try http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:08] <graft> eric256: and it's not a screensaver
[08:08] <dpn> ljl, can I just put that in the device section
[08:08] <shadowpanda> haha no i guess not
[08:09] <shadowpanda> ok
[08:09] <dpn> oskude, mine are blank, it just chose by default
[08:09] <eric256> graft nope, set the screen saver to something crazy and turned if off just to be sure
[08:09] <Sir_Fawnpug> I recently upgraded from breezy to dapper, and for some reason, every time I use fluxbox as my session, gdm starts gkrellm instead; I don't have an .xsession or .xinitrc, any ideas?
[08:09] <dpn> im having a problem getting a game to display in 1 monitor, so i added 1680x1050,NULL into metamodes
[08:09] <craigtmackenzie> i downloaded the installation image for the previous 5.x version of ubuntu and it installed fine on my macbook pro via parrallels but as soon asi updated to 6.06 via update manager it has died
[08:09] <dpn> but the refresh rate is wrong on it
[08:09] <LjL> dpn: err, you know what, i don't remember. i think it's in section "Screen"
[08:09] <eric256> hmmm just found a forum thread saying to try changing the DPMS settings.
[08:09] <ketethatooblack> does anyone know how to get music with .ogg extenstions because i dont know hot o play my favorite song in this music player and even the totem player
[08:10] <craigtmackenzie> it loads most of the drivers gets to hardwarae drivers and says [fail]  (fail in red)
[08:10] <craigtmackenzie> then hangs
[08:10] <oskude> dpn, dualscreen ? sorry, never used...
[08:10] <samuli> !tell ketethatooblack about restricted formats
[08:10] <narfmaster> ketethatooblack, i ripped my CDs to ogg
[08:10] <samuli> oh.. umm.
[08:10] <craigtmackenzie> i keep hearing people rave about ubuntu and want to see it for myself (am thinking of installing it on my folks pc's, they hate windows)
[08:10] <rexin> lil help with grub and efi... not so much?
[08:10] <samuli> ogg isn't restricted right? :)
[08:11] <LjL> samuli: right
[08:11] <ketethatooblack> narfmaster : i don thave the jason mraz cd yet. restricted formats?
[08:11] <LjL> samuli: actually the ogg developers go to great lengths to try and avoid stumbping into patents
[08:11] <graft> eric256: what are you running, Gnome?
[08:11] <graft> samuli: yeah, ogg is as free as you can get, pretty much
[08:12] <Marktzar> what is lex?
[08:12] <Marktzar> I need it to install PHP
[08:12] <ketethatooblack> graft: how do i get ogg
[08:12] <LjL> !info lex
[08:12] <ubotu> Package lex does not exist in dapper
[08:12] <ketethatooblack> graft: what is ogg anyway
[08:12] <LjL> Marktzar: a lexical analyzer generator
[08:12] <graft> ketethatooblack: it's an audio/video format, like mp3
[08:12] <eric256> graft yes
[08:12] <Marktzar> hmm
[08:12] <rexin> buler... buler.... anyone?.... buler?
[08:13] <sopido> hi.. whats the "official ubuntu way" to start a second Xorg server? Users are not authorized to start X and starting it as root one has to hassle with xhost access...?!
[08:13] <ketethatooblack> i'll come back later
[08:13] <ketethatooblack> bye
[08:13] <eric256> any ideas how to disable DPMS in xorg.conf?
[08:13] <IcemanV9> shadowpanda: from google ... http://notebook-wireless-pci-card.philaunba.be/ and good luck
[08:13] <shadowpanda> oh thanks
[08:13] <lufis> Does Ubuntu use ESD?
[08:13] <stefg> yes
[08:14] <sebastian> what's ESD?
[08:14] <jbxyo> How I can got the acces to whrite on my fs (i cant log on my su)
[08:14] <graft> eric256: um do xset -display :0 q and see what it says about DPMS
[08:14] <stefg> !info esound
[08:14] <lufis> sebastian: Enligtened sound daemon
[08:14] <ubotu> esound: Enlightened Sound Daemon - Support binaries. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.2.36-3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 26 kB, installed size 100 kB
[08:14] <firebird619> I get Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed when trying to run MythTV. What can I do to resolve this problem?
[08:14] <lufis> stefg: I read Jack is superior to ESD?
[08:14] <craigtmackenzie> anyone on here helping the noobs? the switchers and the testers? the toe in the watter type people? i need assictance from the community :)
[08:14] <stefg> it is
[08:15] <graft> eric256: or screen savers, i guess
[08:15] <Marktzar> anyone have any idea where I can download lex
[08:15] <narfmaster> craigtmackenzie, only about 800 of them here
[08:15] <Marktzar> google isn't proving too helpful
[08:15] <lufis> stefg: Hmm... so why is Ubuntu using it?
[08:15] <graft> Marktzar: 'flex' is a standard GNU tool that does what lex does
[08:15] <shadowpanda> IcemanV9: i dont see how this is supposed to help me. All i see are ads.
[08:15] <craigtmackenzie> narfmaster: :)
[08:15] <graft> Marktzar: you probably have it already, otherwise just install flex
[08:15] <Marktzar> graft
[08:15] <Marktzar> well
[08:15] <Marktzar> PHP says it wants "lex"
[08:15] <eric256> it says its enabled and has times set for the different modes.  arg. why why why lol
[08:15] <graft> Marktzar: it'll be happy with flex, trust me
[08:16] <Marktzar> okay
[08:16] <rexin> how much faster is Xen than VMWare?
[08:16] <kitsuneofdoom> hey, I'm using a NVIDIA RIVA TNT2, and I can't get accelerated to work. I have the legacy drivers installed, but XORG seems to have a config proble
[08:16] <Marktzar> thanks graft
[08:16] <craigtmackenzie> is anyone here using parrallels ? or has used it?
[08:16] <rexin> i have
[08:16] <gatekeeper> Marktzar: are you trying to install php from source?
[08:16] <sebastian> VMware :)
[08:16] <Marktzar> yep
[08:16] <eric256> noe I just have to figture out how to disable it! ;)
[08:16] <IcemanV9> shadowpanda: sorry. it's what i've found from google. there is no thread on it in ubuntuforums, either. so you're the first. :)
[08:16] <craigtmackenzie> rexin: have you managed to install 6.06?
[08:16] <shadowpanda> dammn it
[08:16] <WooD> any of you know a good tool to a eBay auction reminder
[08:16] <graft> eric256: oh ah... you can just xset it, xset -dpms
[08:16] <gatekeeper> Marktzar: you know it's in the repos?
[08:17] <kitsuneofdoom> hey, I'm using a NVIDIA RIVA TNT2, and I can't get accelerated to work. I have the legacy drivers installed, but xorg seems to have a config problem. Ubuntu 6.06
[08:17] <eric256> that will change it forever?
[08:17] <Marktzar> hah, I had no idea lol
[08:17] <shadowpanda> i guess there is not alot of support for laptop wireless cards
[08:17] <graft> eric256: no, just this session
[08:17] <Marktzar> in saying that, I did do an apt-cache search for PHP
[08:17] <rexin> yup... its in but my machine uses EFI instead of bios so grup wont install
[08:17] <jbxyo> I got problem to install java
[08:17] <stefg> !fixres > kitsuneofdoom
[08:17] <Marktzar> but it returned too many results
[08:17] <eric256> well I'll give it a shot and if it works then I can figure out how to do it long term. thanks a bunch
[08:17] <Marktzar> for me to find the individual PHP package
[08:17] <rexin> chrooted in and installed lilo instead
[08:17] <gatekeeper> Marktzar: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[08:18] <graft> eric256: you can put Option "DPMS" "false" in your "Monitor" section i think
[08:18] <craigtmackenzie> rexin: wow i have no idead what you said!!! lol ok i thought parallels emularted bios
[08:18] <gatekeeper> Marktzar: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_PHP_for_Apache_HTTP_Server
[08:18] <IcemanV9> shadowpanda: depends on which chipset. looks like you have to research bit more. :/
[08:18] <kindor> anyone know how i can set a certain pci card as default for sound?
[08:18] <craigtmackenzie> i managed to get 5.x installed but the upgrade to 6.06 fails
[08:18] <sebastian> !rootkit
[08:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about rootkit
[08:18] <graft> kindor: yeah mess around with your .asoundrc
[08:18] <sebastian> !rootkits
[08:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about rootkits
[08:18] <kindor> thanks
[08:19] <sebastian> !virus
[08:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about virus
[08:19] <sebastian> !viruses
[08:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about viruses
[08:19] <graft> kindor: or your /etc/asound.conf or whatever
[08:19] <sebastian> !spyware
[08:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about spyware
[08:19] <sebastian> !adaware
[08:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about adaware
[08:19] <kitsuneofdoom> stefg: I restarted the whole system. Restarting is not the problem
[08:19] <sebastian> !malware
[08:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about malware
[08:19] <sebastian> !porn
[08:19] <graft> sebastian: do you mind not doign that?
[08:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about porn
[08:19] <rexin> oh, right... different issue :P   yeah i've used it and i think its a bit faster than vmware.... i hear the Xen is fastest though
[08:19] <jbxyo> !java
[08:19] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[08:19] <kazukisan> What package includes LIBNAUTILUS_BURN
[08:19] <rexin> anybody know how much faster?
[08:19] <IcemanV9> shadowpanda: do you know what chipset your card is using?
[08:19] <jbxyo> im so stupid XD
[08:20] <sebastian> !graft
[08:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about graft
[08:20] <craigtmackenzie> rexin: what machine are you on?
[08:20] <Hexidigital_> sebastian:: stop it
[08:20] <rexin> macbook pro
[08:20] <bowlingking> i need some help
[08:20] <IcemanV9> sebastian: knock it off please
[08:20] <craigtmackenzie> me too
[08:20] <dabbler> !baobab
[08:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about baobab
[08:20] <bsm> hi, I've got two sound devices and every boot they change positions and, I guess because they change, they are muted... ideas anyone?
[08:20] <KyleHunt> What email clients do you guys use for mailing lists?
[08:20] <craigtmackenzie> how have you installed ubuntu
[08:20] <rexin> 17?
[08:20] <eric256> wow search on ubuntu.com is broke big time ;)
[08:20] <craigtmackenzie> 15 :(
[08:20] <KyleHunt> Im tired of Gmail being flooded :D
[08:20] <craigtmackenzie> but i love it
[08:20] <kitsuneofdoom> hey, I'm using a NVIDIA RIVA TNT2, and I can't get accelerated to work. I have the legacy drivers installed, but xorg seems to have a config problem. Ubuntu 6.06. I restarted the system, and the listed resolutions are not too high
[08:20] <rexin> still a sweet machine!
[08:20] <sebastian> rexin:  Macbook Pro are they better than PC lap tops?
[08:21] <Pecisk> crowd, any hints to xen source deb package for ubuntu kernel?
[08:21] <rexin> i would say yes and then get my head bitten off for it. lol
[08:21] <sebastian> I was thinking about maybe buying one
[08:21] <stephan__> how do i get to the thing to where u can configure the perfermance and handling of kde
[08:21] <sebastian> rexin:  why use Linux instead of Mac OS X?
[08:21] <stephan__> i can get my kde to stop actling like unix
[08:21] <craigtmackenzie> so rexin how are you running ubuntu?
[08:22] <eric256> if anyone here is in charge of ubuntu.org I would recommend you turn off the debu output for the search script. its giving out the code that is borked ;)
[08:22] <sebastian> !ubotu
[08:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:22] <ubotu> foo
[08:22] <__doc__> hi
[08:22] <sebastian> hi
[08:22] <viator> hmmm i installed realplayer deb file
[08:22] <narfmaster> hi, __doc__
[08:22] <viator> it works
[08:22] <__doc__> I got a problem with the usrobotics 5417
[08:22] <viator> but i get no sound
[08:23] <sebastian> realplayer lokl
[08:23] <sebastian> lol
[08:23] <sebastian> just use mplayer :)
[08:23] <__doc__> the vendor website forwards me to the ndiswrapper
[08:23] <kitsuneofdoom> hey, I'm using a NVIDIA RIVA TNT2, and I can't get accelerated to work. I have the legacy drivers installed, but xorg seems to have a config problem. Ubuntu 6.06. I restarted the system, and the listed resolutions are not too high. As well, I read the generated xorg.conf, and it seems to think I have a Radeon
[08:23] <rexin> like i said before... they dont have a bios per se. they use a newer and less common system called EFI. But then apple released "BootCamp". it basically emulates a BIOS so ppl can install Windows.. or Ubuntu :)
[08:23] <dhendrix> __doc__:  Is the 5417 a winmodem or hardware modem? I seem to remember owning one of those, but it's been a while...
[08:23] <Hexidigital_> sebastian:: you are bordering on trolling... i suggest you stop
[08:23] <viator>  i download the .ram file i tell it to use usr/bin/realplayer
[08:23] <viator> from the application dialog
[08:23] <__doc__> the usrobotics wlan 5474, wireless lan pci card
[08:23] <viator> i know
[08:24] <rexin> grub crashes the install right at the VERY end, so you need to install LILO from the live CD instead of grub... does the exact same thing though
[08:24] <__doc__> when I tail -f daemon.log while going to the graphical windows configuration utility for eth3 it prints: Jul 10 20:21:48 localhost firmware_helper[8125] : main: error loading '/lib/firmware/bcm43xx_microcode5.fw' for device '/class/firmware/0000:01:07.0' with driver 'bcm43xx
[08:24] <sebastian> _doc_  Wireless and Linux yuck  nasty combination usually
[08:24] <Hexidigital_> kitsuneofdoom:: did you view the nvidia wiki page?
[08:24] <viator> mplayers not in the repos
[08:25] <__doc__> sebastian: hm, so I guess I have ndiswrapper, but something's goofy with the driver right?
[08:25] <Wipster> good evning all, in the install cd there is an option to change the res of the boot when its installed it resets the res, whats the parameter needed to specify the boot res?
[08:25] <kitsuneofdoom> Hexidigital_: what's the URL again?
[08:25] <IcemanV9> shadowpanda: you can post the question in ubuntuforums OR one of mailing lists .. hopefully, someone can help ya with your wlan card.
[08:25] <Hexidigital_> !nvidia
[08:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:25] <sebastian> _doc_ also hardwired is better than wireless.  uhmmmmm I used to have a wireless and I tryed to get it working Fedora Core,  but well didn't get anywhere
[08:25] <craigtmackenzie> rexin: how would i do that via parrallels, i think my issue may be unrelated to that though as i got 5.x installed just fine under parralles
[08:25] <sebastian> nightmare
[08:25] <viator> get it from  marillat?
[08:25] <viator> or the plf?
[08:25] <kitsuneofdoom> Hexidigital_: I said I can'
[08:25] <Pecisk> !Xen
[08:25] <ubotu> xen is a a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/
[08:25] <Hexidigital_> kitsuneofdoom:: make sure you do the "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" at the end
[08:25] <sebastian> _doc_  do you really have to use wireless?  carn't you get it hardwired?
[08:26] <gatekeeper> viator: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[08:26] <kitsuneofdoom> Hexidigital_: I did that already
[08:26] <viator> i know how to add repos
[08:26] <bina> viator: mplayer is in one of the 'usual' repos I think.  Possibly universe or multiverse
[08:26] <Hexidigital_> kitsuneofdoom:: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[08:26] <viator> i was wondering if it was at marilat or plf
[08:26] <viator> hmmm
[08:26] <luseruse1> is it possible to have XGL with ubuntu? I just tried kororaa is quite AWSOME
[08:26] <viator> i have all repos enabled
[08:26] <kitsuneofdoom> Hexidigital_: I did that too
[08:26] <narfmaster> viator, it's in multiverse
[08:26] <Hexidigital_> kitsuneofdoom:: hmm
[08:26] <rexin> craigtmackenzie... if you're using parallels it should "Just Work".... did dapper hang up on you?
[08:26] <rsk> luseruse1, yes. #gentoo xgl
[08:26] <__doc__> so any idea what I can do now?
[08:26] <rsk> ops #ubuntu-xgl
[08:27] <craigtmackenzie> rexin: yeah
[08:27] <bina> viator: do you know of a command that tells you what repo a certain package is in.  I can see what repo I have it in on here if u want
[08:27] <sebastian> luseruse1  I tryed to install XGL yesterday.  on a new Intel hadware lap top.  ,but it didn't work :(
[08:27] <craigtmackenzie> at loading hardware drivers
[08:27] <kitsuneofdoom> Hexidigital_: before the config, obviously
[08:27] <rexin> if you want to install natively this is a decent starting point.  http://bin-false.org/?p=17   the forums are loaded with great stuff too
[08:27] <HorzA> howto install rar?
[08:27] <Hexidigital_> kitsuneofdoom:: obviously :)
[08:27] <rexin> what happened?
[08:27] <sebastian> _doc_  can you get it hardwired?
[08:27] <Hexidigital_> HorzA:: sudo apt-get install rar
[08:27] <viator> apt-cache show packagename
[08:28] <sebastian> _doc_  also yo usaid it was a winmodem didn't you?
[08:28] <craigtmackenzie> rexin: i'd rather have it load under parrallels, as i said ii'm just testing the waters at the moment
[08:28] <HorzA> Hexidigital_, E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[08:28] <Hexidigital_> kitsuneofdoom:: not sure... perhaps someone else here is better w/ nvidia than i am
[08:28] <bina> viator: thanks. according to this its in Section: multiverse/graphics
[08:28] <Hexidigital_> HorzA:: one sec
[08:28] <__doc__> sebastian: no, it's a wireless lan pci card
[08:28] <HorzA> Hexidigital_, got main restricted universe multiverse unlocked
[08:28] <bina> viator: thats for dapper though
[08:28] <__doc__> sebastian: hardwired?
[08:28] <bina> viator: may be different if youre using breezy
[08:29] <Hexidigital_> HorzA:: sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[08:29] <sebastian> _doc_  yes so a cable goes from your computer into your Internet connection
[08:29] <Hexidigital_> HorzA:: sorry about that
[08:29] <viator> i have dapper
[08:29] <__doc__> sebastian: It'd be nice if you'd use my full nickname, or I'll miss easely what you type
[08:29] <craigtmackenzie> brb
[08:29] <sebastian> ful nickname __doc__
[08:29] <sebastian> ?
[08:29] <viator> i see kmplayer
[08:29] <existance> what command cna I use to find the size of a file?
[08:29] <__doc__> sebastian: there is no cable about a wireless lan adapter...
[08:29] <viator> but not m[player-386 586 etc
[08:29] <viator> like i used to
[08:29] <narfmaster> existance, ls -l filename
[08:29] <Hexidigital_> sebastian:: __doc__ obviously does not want a hardwired connection... if you are not going to help, then leave
[08:30] <sebastian> Hexidigital I am helping and about to suggest something he can do
[08:30] <sebastian> to get around his problem,  but won't solve it
[08:30] <Hexidigital_> sebastian:: no, you are suggesting he ignore the problem, and hardwire to his LAN
[08:30] <MalMen> where can i put the init commands ?
[08:30] <__doc__> sebastian: I am connected via eth0 to the internet and cable right now, what do you think I use for connecting here huh?
[08:30] <sebastian> right,  but now I am going to suggest something else
[08:30] <bina> viator: hmm, strange, maybe if you try apt-get update again it'll find it
[08:30] <kitsuneofdoom> Anyone know how to do a ncurses-based Xorg reconfigure?
[08:31] <kaw69> Hi  Is warbo online?
[08:31] <sebastian> __doc__ where are you using the wireless?  on a lap top?
[08:31] <existance> narfmaster, alright, I assume 662400621 is the size.  Is that in bytes?
[08:31] <__doc__> sebastian: I can't get my pci wireless lan network card driver to work or something, and I've no clue what to do.
[08:31] <narfmaster> existance, yes bytes
[08:31] <__doc__> sebastian: it's a PCI card...
[08:31] <sebastian> and it won't work with Linux?  ,but with Windows it does?
[08:31] <__doc__> sebastian: I don't care about windows, supposedly when it's new hardware I heard it works sometimes...
[08:32] <__doc__> sebastian: that's completely besides the point
[08:32] <HorzA> Hexidigital_, only getting error on extracting with that one
[08:32] <Hexidigital_> HorzA:: what's the error?
[08:32] <Hexidigital_> !rar
[08:32] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[08:32] <__doc__> my usrobotics wireless lan PCI adapter won't work, what do I have to do now?
[08:32] <Hexidigital_> HorzA:: there's a link for you
[08:32] <viator> !mplayer
[08:32] <ubotu> No fonts in mplayer? Install mplayer fonts. Codecs: see !codecs
[08:32] <sebastian> __doc__  well Linux can use Windows's Internet connection :D
[08:32] <Hexidigital_> will someone please get rid of sebastian ??!
[08:32] <HorzA> Hexidigital_: Extracting  entrap-iffm.avi                                           Failed
[08:33] <viator> !show mplayer
[08:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about show mplayer
[08:33] <viator> blah
[08:33] <Hexidigital_> viator:: info mplayer?
[08:33] <Hexidigital_> HorzA:: is the .avi in a .rar archive?
[08:34] <sebastian> __doc__  suggestion in future by hardware that actasully works with Linux and is suppourted by those companies.  or if not works,  but at least has open source drivers for it
[08:35] <bina> viator: maybe theres something wrong with the mirrors you're using in your sources.list.  Theres a page on the ubuntu site that generates them based on what you want to use
[08:35] <sebastian> __doc__  by the way suggestion http://www.jfgi.us
[08:35] <viator> !easysource
[08:35] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:35] <__mikem> Whose this sebastian character
[08:35] <HorzA> Hexidigital_, yes
[08:35] <__doc__> sebastian: the manufracturer of the card (USROBOTICS YOU FUCKING WITLESS TWITT) points to ndiswrapper already...!!!!!!
[08:35] <sebastian> ah yes USROBOTICS
[08:35] <__mikem> lol
[08:35] <Hexidigital_> HorzA:: did you check out that link?
[08:35] <HorzA> unrar-free -x blabla.rar
[08:36] <__doc__> yeeesssssssssssssss!
[08:36] <viator> ill figure it out latr
[08:36] <HorzA> doing now
[08:36] <__doc__> u.s.robotics
[08:36] <viator> back to work for now
[08:36] <kitsuneofdoom> Anyone know how easily reconfigure xorg without having x open?
[08:36] <sebastian> yeah my wireless that I used to have was US Robotics
[08:36] <__doc__> gesh
[08:36] <sebastian> nightmare trying to get that working with Linux
[08:36] <Wipster> thats the parameter to increase the boot resolution to 1280x960?
[08:36] <bbrazil> !drxx
[08:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about drxx
[08:36] <bbrazil> kitsuneofdoom: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:36] <Wipster> *whats
[08:36] <__doc__> sebastian: that only lists ndiswrapper...
[08:36] <sebastian> __doc__  which US Robotics is it?  US.Robotics 8.0.2 11g?
[08:36] <__doc__> sebastian: ndiswrapper seemingly is what does not work
[08:37] <__doc__> sebastian: yes it is a 802.11g adapter
[08:37] <sebastian> same as mine then __doc__
[08:37] <sebastian> it seems
[08:37] <sebastian> well I did loads of research regarding that in the past
[08:37] <sebastian> trying to get mine to work
[08:37] <__doc__> sebastian: 5417
[08:37] <Eleaf> hiz
[08:38] <__doc__> sebastian: well, what did you do then?
[08:38] <__mikem> Hey Eleaf, so far, I am yet to see anything to extraordenary
[08:38] <sebastian> __doc__ sadly you are probably scrwed and won't be able to get it working.  hence why I suggest you hardwire it if you can
[08:38] <sebastian> or
[08:38] <Eleaf> what is extraordanary __max_ ?
[08:38] <Eleaf> __doc__, what's wrong?
[08:38] <Eleaf> __mikem, lol
[08:39] <sebastian> __doc__ you can get Linux to use Windows's Intenret connection.  as I said before.  well I think you can anyway
[08:39] <bbrazil> yes, you can use an XP shared internet connection from linux
[08:39] <__doc__> sebastian: what's your problem?
[08:39] <sebastian> or have Linux inside a virtual machine in Windows :)
[08:39] <bbrazil> if you set ubuntu to do dhcp, it should just work (tm)
[08:39] <__doc__> sebastian: that's a totally retarded idea
[08:40] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[08:40] <__doc__> sebastian: If I just wanted to use a cable I do so already
[08:40] <__mikem> I can't even figure out what he means by hardwire
[08:40] <__doc__> sebastian: if I wanted to run windows I'd do so and not run ubuntu
[08:40] <sebastian> well then why don't you just do that :)  you won't have much luck trying to get tha wireless to work trust me
[08:40] <Jack_Sparrow> SO buy linux compatible equipment..  ONe device isnt a big deal
[08:40] <__doc__> good day on my ignore list
[08:40] <raptros-v76> lol
[08:41] <__mikem> __doc__ when did he get in here and what was he doing
[08:41] <__doc__> __mikem: he's suggesting useless crap
[08:41] <sebastian> __doc__ what a nob putting someone on ignore list that was trying to help them
[08:41] <tore_> how do i install opera-9.0-20060616.5-shared-qt.i386-en.tar.gz ?
[08:41] <raptros-v76> __doc__: join #ubuntu-forums
[08:41] <Hexidigital_> sebastian:: how were you trying to help?
[08:41] <Hexidigital_> sebastian:: suggesting useless crap!
[08:41] <raptros-v76> __doc__: join #ubuntu-offtopic i mean
[08:41] <sebastian> suggesting two ways he could use his connection
[08:41] <HorzA> is there a synaptic to console?
[08:41] <tore_> can someone help me to install opera 9?
[08:42] <FunnyLookinHat> !opera
[08:42] <narfmaster> HorzA, yes aptitude
[08:42] <ubotu> An advanced and free (only as in price) Web browser. Howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser - Latest Ubuntu packages always at: http://opera.com/download
[08:42] <Flannel> HorzA: apt-get, or if you want a nice GUI frontend, aptitute
[08:42] <Hexidigital_> HorzA:: you mean package manager?
[08:42] <Flannel> HorzA: er, aptitude
[08:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Three, he could use it as a doorstop.. equally useless
[08:42] <HorzA> Hexidigital_, didnt find rar even removing all the ## in source list and update :/
[08:42] <__mikem> lol
[08:42] <Hexidigital_> __mikem:: doc is in -offtopic
[08:42] <__mikem> ok
[08:42] <__mikem> thanks
[08:43] <Erichapkido> Is anyone else having a problem where apt says that a file is missing a newline and won't install anything because of it
[08:43] <Hexidigital_> HorzA:: try this... sudo apt-get install unrar  (there may have been dependencies that were ignored w/ -free)
[08:43] <dabbler> edit sources.list and enter the nwline :)
[08:44] <narfmaster> free unrar is only rar 2.0 compatible
[08:44] <sebastian> !epiphany
[08:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about epiphany
[08:44] <sebastian> !galeon
[08:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about galeon
[08:44] <__mikem> !abuse
[08:44] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:44] <__mikem> !bot abuse
[08:44] <ubotu> Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour
[08:44] <sebastian> !windows
[08:44] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[08:44] <raptros-v76> sebastian: never suggest windows as a router. the windows firewall cant handle things like that
[08:44] <Hexidigital_> abuse should be changed....
[08:44] <spades> __mikem please dont abuse in the bot in an attempt to prevent bot abuse
[08:45] <__mikem> that mde no sence
[08:45] <Seveas> spades, don't be a smartass either - that's just as annoying
[08:45] <kaot> "It was necessary to destroy the village in order to save it."
[08:45] <raptros-v76> sebastian: also, what if the guy doesnt HAVE A COPY OF WINDOWS.
[08:45] <__mikem> Thanks Seveas
[08:45] <Erichapkido> dabbler: that isn't it its saying this to a file im installing "files list file for package `libgnome2-common' is missing final newline"
[08:45] <sebastian> Linux can use Windows to connect to the net  and that's that.  yes Windows is shit,  but if that's the only way to get a wireless working,  because they are shit.  well then so be it
[08:45] <__mikem> lmao @raptros-v65
[08:45] <VolVE> hey all, so, when I install a package via apt and it gives me the "recommended" and "suggested" packages to use, can I view that list again even after I've installed a certain package?
[08:45] <__mikem> oops
[08:45] <nalioth> sebastian: let us watch our language pleaser
[08:45] <HorzA> Hexidigital_, il look on it later, gotta sleep now
[08:45] <Karhuton> How does update-manager check for new updates? Could it be done with a perl script?
[08:45] <Seveas> Erichapkido, reinstalling that pacakge should help
[08:46] <Hexidigital_> HorzA:: sorry :(  take care
[08:46] <Erichapkido> Seveas: thats what you'd think, but I cant even do that
[08:46] <Seveas> Karhuton, update-manager doesn't check
[08:46] <Seveas> the apt cronjob does
[08:46] <sebastian> raptros_v76 he can pirate one for all I caer if he dosan't have a copy
[08:46] <Seveas> Erichapkido, what happens if you try? Full logs on the pastebin please
[08:46] <eric256> I missed something, how does windows help him get his network card working?
[08:46] <raptros-v76> sebastian: thats jsut more work than getting ndiswrapper to work
[08:47] <sebastian> eric256:  if his network card works with Windows.  he can make Linux use the Windows set up
[08:47] <nalioth> sebastian: foul language and talk of 'software piracy' does not belong here
[08:47] <raptros-v76> sebastian: and hardwiring it defeats THE ENTIRE PURPOSE of having wireless in the FIRST PLACE
[08:47] <sebastian> sure
[08:47] <sebastian> ,but wireless's suck
[08:47] <sebastian> and hardwireing is better :)
[08:47] <__mikem> Seveas, join in, theres plenty of moron to go around
[08:48] <kaot> boing
[08:48] <raptros-v76> lol
[08:48] <__mikem> you try to be nice
[08:48] <kaot> Bug 74072 depends on: 			Show dependency tree
[08:48] <kaot> Show dependency graph
[08:48] <kaot> whoa
[08:48] <__mikem> ANd what thanks do you get
[08:48] <kaot> accidental paste
[08:48] <kaot> sorry
[08:48] <sebastian> I got kicked hummmmm
[08:48] <eric256> sebastian so your suggestion is that he run windows on the same machine WHILE he is running linux?  "your network card won't work?  well just change operating systems"
[08:48] <Seveas> sebastian, next time will be a ban
[08:49] <sebastian> not the first time I been banend in this channel Sevas for stupid reasons
[08:49] <Erichapkido> Seveas: ok its on the pastebin
[08:49] <Redman276> is there  hard drive diagnostic  utilities in ubuntu ?
[08:49] <Seveas> Erichapkido, url?
[08:49] <Seveas> !smart
[08:49] <ubotu> smart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible for Edgy. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager
[08:49] <Erichapkido> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d17694
[08:49] <Seveas> urgh...
[08:49] <keithg> Can't we solve things without getting so angry?
[08:49] <Seveas> Redman276, apt-cache search smart
[08:49] <raptros-v76> keithg: maybe
[08:49] <Redman276> ty
[08:49] <__mikem> Sebastian, you really don't want to mess with seveas
[08:50] <Foobal> Redman276: "sudo apt-get install smartmontools" and then "man smartctl"
[08:50] <Seveas> he won't.
[08:50] <__mikem> Yep
[08:50] <__mikem> :)
[08:50] <keithg> It's like a coalition!  D:
[08:50] <raptros-v76> Seveas: :)
[08:50] <kaot> whoa.  Seveas just like, turned green and SMASH.  hehe
[08:50] <tore_> How do i imitate internet explorer in opera running on ubuntu? PM ;)
[08:50] <raptros-v76> kaot: yep. hes like that
[08:50] <__mikem> We are going to start caling you the terminator
[08:50] <__mikem> wait no, the BANinator
[08:50] <Hexidigital_> heh
[08:51] <raptros-v76> and we're going to write a theme song
[08:51] <goki-> tore_, there is a setting for the browser identification, not sure where it is in opera, but I'm pretty sure it exists
[08:51] <lix_> Hi. Maybe somebody can help me with the following problem: I bought a IBM/Lenovo thinkpad x60. Most of the things work out of the box with Ubuntu Dapper Drake 6.06. But the Wifi Card doesnt: Atheros. I get an error when doing modprobe ath_pci. Any suggestions?
[08:51] <goki-> tore_, try looking in the help, for "identification" or similar
[08:51] <__mikem> lol
[08:51] <kaot> hey wasn't the Hulk's real name "Steven Banner" or something?
[08:51] <kaot> I sense a connection.
[08:51] <goki-> Eric Bana
[08:51] <nuxil> how would i do it to copy all html files on a web site? wget -? http://www.site.com ??
[08:51] <goki-> or... Something Bana
[08:51] <eric256> its normaly called User-Agent  I think
[08:51] <goki-> Eric might be the son
[08:52] <goki-> eric256, ah yeah
[08:52] <Seveas> Erichapkido, echo '' >> /var/lib/dpkg/info/libgnome2-common.list
[08:52] <Seveas> Erichapkido, that should work around the problem
[08:52] <raptros-v76> kaot, goki- join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:52] <Seveas> you still should reinstall the package
[08:52] <paul__> hello chaps, can someone recommend a quick and easy way of creating a dvd playable on a a dvd player (as opposed to a data disc) thanks
[08:52] <Erichapkido> it keeps saying permission denied, even with sudo
[08:52] <__mikem> brb
[08:53] <Seveas> Erichapkido, echo '' | sudo tee -a /var/lib/dpkg/info/libgnome2-common.list
[08:53] <emlprime> I'm trying to connect to my work machine through a VPN.  I've got the VPN working and DNS will resolve my machine's ip properly, but when I try to connect using RDP through the Terminal Server Client, it waits for a couple minutes and then times out with "Connection Timed Out" error.  I've gotten it to work before, with my Dapper Flight 7, but when I did a clean re-install, and now this problem is back.  I've Googled for everything I can think of and 
[08:53] <Redman276> ok let me  rephrase that , and   hard drive  dianostic utility similar  to M$ scandisk from like windows 98
[08:53] <SonicChao> How do I download and install a .tar.gz file?
[08:53] <Eleaf> lol
[08:54] <Foobal> Redman276: man fsck
[08:54] <kaot> Redman276: fsck
[08:54] <polpak> SonicChao, what .tar.gz file?
[08:54] <Eleaf> a .tar.gz file is just an archive, it can contain anything.
[08:54] <SonicChao> polpak: A Program...
[08:54] <Redman276> ty
[08:54] <kaot> polpak: similar to a windows .zip file
[08:54] <graft> err... Eric Bana is the actor who -played- the hulk. Bruce Banner is the Hulk
[08:54] <SonicChao> !tar
[08:54] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)
[08:54] <woot> SonicChao, it should contain a Readme i think
[08:54] <raptros-v76> SonicChao: extract it,
[08:54] <raptros-v76> cd into the folder
[08:54] <SonicChao> raptros-v76: to where?
[08:54] <Eleaf> Solarion, .tar.gz archives usually contain the source of something.  you have to compile it
[08:55] <raptros-v76> ./configure, make. sudo make install
[08:55] <SonicChao> raptros-v76: Ok...
[08:55] <Eleaf> raptros-v76, that probably won't work..
[08:55] <raptros-v76> extract it whereever
[08:55] <polpak> SonicChao, I figured that.. The reason I was asking is that many times such "programs" are already in the repos and you can just apt-get them
[08:55] <raptros-v76> Eleaf: ?>
[08:55] <Trae> Ok, I can reproduce this bug... anyone here want to help me try it out?  Go view some flash video on youtube that's about 20mins+ or longer...  and watch it, and tell me if your whole system doesn't just lock up and shut down.
[08:55] <Eleaf> raptros-v76, the program depends on many things probably.
[08:55] <woot> SonicChao, you can extract it to some temp place, like your desktop orso
[08:55] <Eleaf> SonicChao, what are you trying to install? why don't you check if you can install it using apt?
[08:55] <Trae> centrino M 1.6Ghz chip with 2G of ram
[08:55] <raptros-v76> Eleaf: well, you need to knwo all the deps, you use the make errors to figure them out
[08:55] <Trae> anyone else having the same problems?
[08:55] <Dr_Sato> hi
[08:56] <topyli> SonicChao: why do you have this file in the first place? can't find an ubuntu package?
[08:56] <SonicChao> topyli: No ubuntu package
[08:56] <SonicChao> It just told me to click here to download for Linux
[08:56] <raptros-v76> SonicChao: whats it for
[08:56] <SonicChao> raptros-v76: Flock web browser
[08:56] <polpak> SonicChao, are you being evasive intentionally?
[08:56] <raptros-v76> SonicChao: what libs does it need?
[08:57] <SonicChao> raptros-v76: Not sure...
[08:57] <topyli> SonicChao: flock is most likely distributed as a binary. extract it to your home directory and run
[08:57] <Dr_Sato> Newbee question: I'm migrating van redhat 2 Ubuntu... used to have a services thing to tell redhat services needed 2be started at boot time. Where can I find something like that in Ubuntu?
[08:57] <mateX> i get error when i try to compile bot on ubuntu machine
[08:57] <SonicChao> topyli: Ok...Um...I am a linux noob, how do I run it?
[08:57] <woot> SonicChao, just extract it, cd into it, and read README, it should contain it
[08:58] <narfmaster> Dr_Sato, there is BUM (boot up manager)
[08:58] <Dr_Sato> narfmaster: Check... I'll go look for it no
[08:58] <topyli> SonicChao: you should be able to just click on the "flock" executable in the flock directory
[08:58] <woot> most readmes arent that long to read :) just skip to the install or launch part
[08:58] <narfmaster> Dr_Sato, should be in the repo
[08:58] <SonicChao> topyli: Ok
[08:59] <Dr_Sato> narfmaster: I need to install it? Or is it on there from the beginning?
[08:59] <narfmaster> Dr_Sato, just apt-get install bum (should be in the universe repo)
[08:59] <Dr_Sato> check
[09:00] <stephan__> i need help bad......i deleted my root user lol
[09:00] <Erichapkido> Seveas: ok now my system is updated, but the print server is messed up
[09:00] <cypher1> can i upgrade from breezy to dapper using a desktop cd ?
[09:00] <SonicChao> topyli: Ok...thanks ^_^
[09:00] <topyli> SonicChao: works? cool
[09:00] <stephan__> sudo doesnt work ...nothing!
[09:00] <Eleaf> lol stephan__ ?
[09:01] <Seveas> stephan__, boot into recovery mode and add your normal user to the admin group
[09:01] <SonicChao> topyli: I found a file in there named "flock", i double clicked it and pressed "Run"...it did the rest
[09:02] <lix_> i have a problem activating the madwifi ath_pci module. can anyone help?
[09:02] <topyli> SonicChao: nice. so you can just make a launcher for it with the menu editor
[09:02] <dbmata> hey folks, anyone know how to specify specific monitors in xorg.conf?
[09:02] <Dr_Sato> narfmaster: manny thnX... works like a charm
[09:02] <SonicChao> topyli: Ok...I know how to do that :)
[09:02] <narfmaster> Dr_Sato, no problem
[09:02] <stephan__> anyone alive?
[09:02] <raptros-v76> hey, hey, im still alive
[09:02] <raptros-v76> ...
[09:03] <Eleaf> hi hi hi hi hi  hi hi      hi hi hil   hi hi
[09:03] <dbmata> I was alive yesterday. Had to cheer the zizou headbutt.
[09:03] <Dr_Sato> narfmaster: is there something online I can read thrue for more usefull tips? Like this one?
[09:03] <raptros-v76> "hey, hey, im still alive"
[09:03] <narfmaster> Dr_Sato, just idle here for a while :)
[09:03] <woot> lix_, perhaps the ubuntuforums have some good adivce? try some differnt howtos?
[09:03] <dbmata> anyone familiar with display config in xorg.conf?
[09:03] <Dr_Sato> Heheheh... okay... thnx narfmaster
[09:03] <lix_> i did. many reports on the same problem
[09:04] <roostishaw> is there an alternative clock application that takes up less than 12 mgs of ram?
[09:04] <Erichapkido> Seveas: it says this "The CUPS server could not be contacted." when i try to start the print configuration, and this came up after i updated everything http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17697
[09:04] <rsk> roostishaw, xclock
[09:04] <lars> I've a small problem. I have a shell script. This starts /etc/init.d/iptables. When I execute it manually, iptables loads alle rules (aprox. 90). When i use cron to run it, it loads only about 70 rules....
[09:05] <pppoe_dude> hi. anyone know why mail-notification applet has the 'SSL' checkboxes greyed out?
[09:05] <mumbles> how do i update breezy to badger ?
[09:06] <raptros-v76> ...
[09:06] <lix_> woot: I think Mark Shuttleworth also owns a Thinkpad X60. And I'm sure, his wificard works ;)
[09:06] <narfmaster> mumbles, lol
[09:06] <dbmata> anyone familiar with monitor setup in x server?
[09:06] <woot> lix_, im not saying its not possible, i never had troubles with wireless, but mine works out of the box... :)
[09:06] <stephan__> back....yea i was really stoned last night.....
[09:06] <lix_> mumbles: easiest is with synaptic or aptitude (in the command line). you can also use apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[09:06] <woot> dbmata whats your problem?
[09:06] <jrib> !upgrade > mumbles
[09:06] <lix_> woot: you got a X60?
[09:07] <woot> dbmata, ive been fooling around with dual head setups and tvout
[09:07] <Seveas> !xcfg > dbmata
[09:07] <woot> lix_, nope
[09:07] <lix_> woot: with the same atheros wificard?
[09:07] <kibab> hey, anybody know why konsole keeps wrapping prematurely when I type commands? (it wraps fine when command output is displayed)
[09:07] <mumbles> couldent find it
[09:07] <lix_> woot oh.
[09:07] <woot> lix_, srry
[09:07] <dbmata> woot: Alright, I have two monitors, an lcd on the left, crt on the right... xorg.conf doesn't have any info for the crt, yet my display defaults to it.
[09:07] <lix_> woot: np :)
[09:07] <jrib> mumbles: couldn't find what?
[09:07] <dbmata> seveas: thanks.
[09:07] <Jonnings> I have defragmented the partition which I have XP on. This partition has 7gb free space. Is it ok to use qtparted and resize this partition with 6gb free space and be sure that it does not mess up my XP os?
[09:07] <stephan__> Seveas, where do i add the user too
[09:08] <Jonnings> Reduce the XP partition's size by 6gb that is
[09:08] <blind> How do I give an interface a new IP address?
[09:08] <dbmata> woot: I'd like to set my screen to either my lcd, or to dual monitors... but I just can't figure out how to force the display output to the lcd.
[09:08] <Seveas> stephan__, the admin group
[09:08] <woot> dbmata,  the lcd is a common lcd or a laptop lcd?
[09:08] <dbmata> woot: common lcd. this is a desktop system with an lcd and a crt.
[09:09] <stephan__> Seveas, how do i do that lol
[09:09] <woot> well if your graphical card (which one) supports dual head setup, it should be fairly easy to use em both
[09:09] <Seveas> stephan__, adduser your_user_name admin
[09:09] <dbmata> woot: oh yeah, running DD, and an nvid 7800gtx vid card.
[09:09] <gteppel> I'm confused how Remote SSH Port Forwarding works, I understand that if I forward local ports I can connect to that port locally and it will map itself to a different (possible the same port) on the remote machine. Would Remote Forwarding helping me terminal service (RDP) to my windows box at work if I connected to my home ssh server from work
[09:09] <stephan__> thanks
[09:10] <mrDaniel> do anyone know a equivalent tool for ubuntu to adjust the power-consumtion of a GeForce_Go like PowerMizer under Windows?
[09:10] <dbmata> woot: I was previously pointed toward xinerama, but I couldn't find a download other than a bunch of txt files that were confusing.
[09:10] <woot> hehe
[09:10] <lars> gteppel: Yes. Works
[09:11] <woot> dbmata, in a nutshell: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[09:11] <dbmata> woot: you could almost imagine the scene, I'm upped on turkish coffee, 3am, trying to make heads or tails of those txt files, when I barely even know how to find my /home folder.
[09:11] <woot> ouch
[09:11] <woot> wait with the apt-get :P
[09:11] <woot> ill get ya a howto on the ubuntuforums
[09:11] <woot> step by step explained
[09:12] <dbmata> woot: Heh, well, I'm already using the nvidia-glx, and it's working...
[09:12] <woot> i guess you just had a fresh install orso?
[09:12] <woot> ah
[09:12] <woot> just the xorg.conf has to be tweaked to have a dual setup then?
[09:12] <hivemind> Hey guys, I've mostly got everything working (first install) but why doesn't Firefox's middle click and scroll feature work?
[09:12] <dbmata> woot: here's something funny, if I switch back to the nv driver, the display output reverts to my lcd, but I get 4 color ghosts on the crt.
[09:12] <dbmata> woot: yeah, to either be dual desktop, or just force display to my lcd.
[09:13] <woot> and what if you unplug your crt? :p
[09:13] <woot> although dual head should be the way to go if you have 2 screens
[09:13] <Loevborg> Why does totem tell me it doesn't have the proper plugin to watch DVDs?
[09:13] <gteppel> lars: could I also forward a local port to my ssh server which would map the remote port being remotely forward. so for example I would have my work computer (Windows) forwarding 3389 to my sshd server, then with a laptop say I'm on a random wireless network that only allows ports 80, 443, 22 outbound could I forward some random port from my laptop to my ssh serer's 3389
[09:13] <gteppel> thus using the ssh as kind of a bridge
[09:13] <dbmata> woot: unplug... the... crt? HAHAHA, haven't tried it, seems to logical.
[09:13] <gteppel> between my laptop and work computer?
[09:13] <woot> lol dbmata
[09:14] <woot> but to be honest, if you use dual screens for a week..youll be hooked up :P
[09:14] <kaot> hivemind: could be that your mouse isn't set up correctly.  does scrolling work in any other app?
[09:14] <dbmata> woot: dual head would be my optimal choice though. That's how I run my XP side, and it's perfect for my workflow.
[09:14] <woot> dbmata, ofcourse
[09:15] <fowlduck> how do you reconfigure your display?  as in redetect and whatnot
[09:15] <woot> dbmata dualhead should work for sure, and i you have a nvidia, with not that much troubles
[09:15] <woot> you can try to setup twinview
[09:15] <TANATHOS> hello
[09:16] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: can you help me set up Cedega CVS?
[09:16] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, where do you get stuck?
[09:16] <TokenBad> in the new ubuntu where is the sound stuff?
[09:16] <shadowpanda> when opening WineCVS.sh, i dont know which file to download
[09:16] <dbmata> woot: is there a walkthrough for the extended desktop for the nvidia driver? Hopefully I can get it to see both of my screens.
[09:17] <woot> ill take a look around for a walktrhough
[09:17] <woot> or a decent readme
[09:17] <dbmata> thanks, I've been checking the wiki but not finding much.
[09:18] <lars> gteppel: Sorry but I don't understand ... :/. You have your 'work'box1 with Port 3389 open (MSRDP) and you 'work'box2 Port 22 open (SSHD). Then you have a 'mobile' client. You connect to your 'work'box2 and configure the tunnel. Then you connect from the 'mobile'client to localhost. THIS local connection gets tunneled over the linux server to your 'work'box1 rdp
[09:18] <fowlduck> !ati
[09:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:18] <shadowpanda> Narfmaster: You get that?
[09:19] <narfmaster> nope, wrong one :p
[09:19] <Wipster> hey all where abouts are the ubuntu desktop background stored?
[09:19] <kibab> dbmata: here are the main lines you will need for dualhead: http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/11
[09:19] <Seveas> Wipster, /usr/share/backgrounds
[09:19] <kibab> dbmata: I can't explain them right now as I need to leave, but they should be pretty obvious
[09:19] <jrib> Wipster: /usr/share/backgrounds/
[09:20] <narfmaster> no wait, this should be right
[09:20] <Wipster> ty guys
[09:20] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: it asks me to get a profile from http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/WineCVS
[09:20] <woot> dbmata, http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/index.html especially appendix G or P
[09:20] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, correct
[09:20] <dbmata> kibab: I appreciate it, I've got it up.
[09:20] <dbmata> woot: Ok, it's up also. Thanks. I hope I can get it rolling.
[09:20] <woot> but i think twinview is the way to go
[09:20] <kd7swh> gdm keeps crashing in dapper how can I fix it?
[09:21] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, select the "0" profile, then run it
[09:21] <shadowpanda> ok
[09:21] <farchord> hey guys, I have a major problem. I currently am on the live CD of ubuntu. But I want to install it, but for some reason, it detects my AGP card as PCI (!?) and I am stuck on a 680x480 resolution, which prevents me from installing, because the install window is too big.
[09:21] <farchord> What can I do!?
[09:21] <stephan21_> how do i add a root user in the groups
[09:21] <dbmata> dbmata: I got maya for linux as a gift, and it would rock if I can keep my workspace the same... model on the left, modify my curves on the right.
[09:21] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: then run?
[09:21] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, yes
[09:21] <gteppel> lars: I have Box1 which is a windows box that is sitting behind a company firewall, howeverl port 3389 is open inside the LAN, i then have Box2 which is my ssh server sitting at home that has port 22 open to the internet (and other ports that I want to open) then I have box3 which is a laptop in a very restrictive network. I want to connect to Box1 from Box3
[09:21] <gteppel> make sense?
[09:21] <cavediver> Hi. I need a good ftp with sftp support. Maybe an updated GFTP ?
[09:21] <jrib> stephan21_: you mean give a new user sudo privileges?
[09:22] <kd7swh> farchord try running discover1 to re-detect the card
[09:22] <dbmata> woot: I'm getting my streams crossed. Heh, thanks for the help.
[09:22] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: then it says: List of Profiles
[09:22] <woot> yw
[09:22] <farchord> Anyone know? :S
[09:22] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, type 0
[09:22] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: 0 ) winex330
[09:22] <shadowpanda> ok
[09:22] <stephan21_> jrib.....no i deleted my root user lol
[09:22] <roostishaw> is there a replacement application for the menubar clock in gnome?
[09:22] <dbmata> have a good one, I've got a X Windows config to break.
[09:22] <jrib> farchord: if you can't get the live cd's installer to work, you can use the alternate cd
[09:22] <dbmata> woot: thanks again.
[09:22] <jrib> stephan21_: how?
[09:22] <lars> gteppel: would work if 3389 is not blocked from outside
[09:23] <stephan21_> jrib, was really stoned....
[09:23] <farchord> ummm ok.... guess ima have to redownload again then!?
[09:23] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: is the root password my admin password?
[09:23] <kd7swh> cavediver use filezilla for sftp
[09:23] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, what do you need root for?
[09:23] <LjL> shadowpanda: it is simply your password
[09:23] <jrib> stephan21_: what command did you use?
[09:23] <LjL> !tell shadowpanda about sudo
[09:23] <shadowpanda> nono
[09:23] <gteppel> lars: so there is no way to connect box1 to box2 and connect box3 to box2 and have box2 acts as a go between
[09:23] <TANATHOS> does anybody know if lamp server has apache?
[09:24] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: it says running profile : winex330
[09:24] <cavediver> kd7swh: Seems unavailible in my repos, already tried
[09:24] <stephan21_> jrib, so would root:x0: work?
[09:24] <swerves> how do I install magickwand on ubuntu?
[09:24] <LjL> TANATHOS: what do you think the "A" in LAMP stands for? ;-)
[09:24] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: then Enter root password:
[09:24] <TANATHOS> :P tnx
[09:24] <roostishaw> is there a replacement application for the menubar clock in gnome?
[09:24] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, you need the "cedega_head_userinstall" profile
[09:24] <TANATHOS> ljl may i chat with you?
[09:25] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, change your profile to that if need be
[09:25] <LjL> TANATHOS: i'm a little busy at the moment, it's best if you just ask in the channel i think, i'll answer if i can
[09:25] <TANATHOS> tnx
[09:25] <jrib> stephan21_: my /etc/passwd reads: root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash       but I don't know if you need to do more
[09:25] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: how does one change their profile
[09:25] <lars> gteppel: in my opinion not. but i'm not sure. sorry!
[09:25] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, you can just quit the script and restart it
[09:26] <shadowpanda> I have done ther
[09:26] <stephan21_> jrib.....yea i think ur right....ok im gonna try to boot the cd....thanks
[09:26] <shadowpanda> oh i got it now
[09:26] <swerves> how do I install magickwand on ubuntu?
[09:26] <gteppel> ok thanks
[09:26] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: my bad, i messed up but its good now
[09:26] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, cool :)
[09:26] <cavediver> filezilla? Do I need special repos?
[09:26] <kd7swh> anyone know how to fix that gdm crash in dapper?
[09:27] <roostishaw> did youtube update the version of flash player they're using? cause now it wants me to upgrade?
[09:27] <swerves> how do I install magickwand on ubuntu?
[09:27] <kd7swh> filezilla is on sourceforge.net
[09:27] <cypher1> has anyone had encountered this during breezy -> dapper upgrade: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17700
[09:28] <roostishaw> did youtube update the version of flash player they're using? cause now it wants me to upgrade?
[09:28] <jrib> swerves: is that part of imagemagick?
[09:28] <swerves> its an API for imagemagick
[09:29] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: once im done (which I am not) what do i do next to get cedega to work? Just follow the rest of the instructions?
[09:29] <swerves> is there any way to activate the "universe" packages from the shell?
[09:29] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: installing i mean
[09:29] <kd7swh> filezilla needs to be compiled
[09:29] <narfmaster> shadowpanda, yes just follow the instructions
[09:29] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: your my hero :P
[09:29] <jrib> swerves: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:29] <cavediver> ohh
[09:29] <shadowpanda> :-!
[09:29] <jrib> swerves: (and then apt-get update)
[09:30] <cavediver> I'd like to have SFTP support in Nautilus... ::)
[09:30] <samuli> swervers, edit sources.list
[09:30] <shadowpanda> !sudo
[09:30] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:30] <shadowpanda> !ubotu
[09:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:30] <ubotu> foo
[09:31] <mzuverink> I installed edubuntu and now have the edubuntu bootscreen.  I would like to change it back to the normal ubuntu, how do i do that?
[09:31] <grenegar> !ubuntu
[09:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[09:31] <swerves> thanks for the universe sources
[09:31] <shadowpanda> !tell shadowpanda about sudo
[09:31] <rellim> mzuverink: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[09:32] <grenegar> !foo
[09:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about foo
[09:32] <shadowpanda> !foo
[09:32] <swerves> where is php.ini?
[09:32] <cberlo> Hi folks.  Trying to solve a problem with pam_mount mounting Windows-based SMB shares at user login.  I've got an Edubuntu system, authenticating against winbind (W2K3) and it can't seem to get the authentication token.
[09:32] <shadowpanda> !tell grenegar about foo
[09:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about foo
[09:32] <[NP] Tangent> hi, I need help getting my printer to work. it's on and plugged into the computer, but the computer is not detecting it.
[09:33] <rellim> foo doesn't exist
[09:33] <shadowpanda> !foo is what you are
[09:33] <craigtmackenzie> ok i'm needing help guys, i'm installing ubuntu on a mac via parallels and have just got the following error message trying to boot into 6.06 after updating via update manager >>>  udevd-event[2932] : wait_for_sysfs: waiting fo '/sys/devices/platform/i82365.0/bu' failed
[09:33] <shadowpanda> !tell shadowpanda about foo
[09:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about foo
[09:33] <craigtmackenzie> what on earth does that mean? 5.whatever worked fine
[09:34] <[NP] Tangent> maybe if I reboot
[09:34] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: first, i have to ask what you think of parallels... i was going to install it on my iBook
[09:34] <compact> hey
[09:34] <yum> hello all, i try to syncronize evolution with my pda. I try since hours. It worked once but I cannot do it again and I do not know why.
[09:34] <compact> synaptic doesnt work for me
[09:35] <craigtmackenzie> there is also udved-event[2750] : run_progam: 'sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit
[09:35] <narfmaster> compact, what happens?
[09:35] <compact> hold on...
[09:35] <craigtmackenzie> pcmcia services... [failed] 
[09:35] <shadowpanda> !codecs
[09:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:35] <cberlo> Anyone play with OpenMOSIX on Ubuntu or a similar clustering solution?
[09:35] <kd7swh> the fireftp fire foxfox add on does sftp
[09:35] <craigtmackenzie> loading manual drivers... [failed] 
[09:35] <MarcN> yum: palm pilot with USB?  See if there is are tty devices like this:   ls  /dev/ttyUSB*
[09:36] <craigtmackenzie> rellim: it's good app, for 5.x it worked fine windows works fine also
[09:36] <yum> MarcN: I use no Palm. It is Windows CE and its on ttyUSB0
[09:36] <compact> every time i reload Synaptic on Breezy 5.1 it says this
[09:36] <compact> cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] /dists/breezy/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[09:37] <MarcN> yum:  I've see the ttyUSB0 fail to appear when plugging in my pilot the second time since a boot.
[09:37] <compact> and when i put in the cdrom and try to add it... it says that there are no packages found
[09:37] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: awesome ... ok, now lemme take a look into your problem
[09:37] <yum> MarcN: how can I check this?
[09:38] <narfmaster> compact, i think you need to remove the CD from the repository list and then add it again
[09:38] <craigtmackenzie> rellim: cool :)
[09:38] <compact> ok
[09:38] <MarcN> yum: from a terminal window,   ls /dev/ttyUSB*
[09:38] <kd7swh> can anyone direct me to a good nintendo emulator
[09:38] <MarcN> yum: if it isn't there while the device is plugged in, that is the problem.
[09:38] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: did you get the first issue resolved? i did a qucik scan of the chan chat and noticed you posted "i also got <error?"
[09:39] <craigtmackenzie> rellim: hold on a sec dude, am uploading a screen for you :)
[09:39] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: ok
[09:39] <Enverex> Is there anything in the AMD64 version of Ubuntu that isn't available that would be on x64? Like compatability things or whatever?
[09:39] <yum> MarcN: /dev/ttyUSB0 shows up
[09:39] <MarcN> yum: then I'm outta ideas.
[09:39] <rellim> Enverex: amd64 is x64
[09:39] <mjr> Enverex, nothing in Ubuntu. Third-party binaries may not be available for amd64
[09:39] <Enverex> rellim : Oh, whats the difference between the 2 CDs then?
[09:40] <craigtmackenzie> rellim: http://www.flickr.com/photos/craigtmackenzie/186660189/
[09:40] <rellim> Enverex: not sure ... lemme check
[09:40] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: k
[09:40] <compact> what will the location be for the CD drive
[09:40] <craigtmackenzie> :)
[09:40] <compact> For the repository
[09:40] <rellim> Enverex: i think you meant x86, not x64
[09:41] <kd7swh> i am having trouble with dvd playback
[09:41] <Enverex> I'm on an Athlon64 but trying to decide which to use, I'm not to keen on using the amd64 version if lots of things from x86 dont work on it
[09:41] <rellim> Enverex: the only differences i have found between amd64 and x86 is the availablity of wine and flash (both are available to x86, not to amd64)
[09:41] <narfmaster> compact, check the Settings > Repositories menu item in Synaptic
[09:41] <jrib> kd7swh: what kind of trouble?
[09:41] <kd7swh> vlc keeps crashing
[09:41] <yum> MarcN: it always misses out establishing a serial connection using ppp0 <---> /dev/ttyUSB0. But thx.
[09:41] <rellim> Enverex: i run amd64 on my ahtlon64 3200+ venice core all day everyday without flaw
[09:41] <kd7swh> xine can't decode
[09:41] <Enverex> Whoops, yeah, x86 not x64 sorry
[09:41] <kd7swh> totem hates me
[09:41] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: bad link?
[09:41] <skavenge> i love ubuntu .. i just bought a airflo gamepad out of a bargain bin at radio shack and ubuntu auto-detected it and it runs perfect ;)
[09:42] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: it took a while to load and then gave me a "page not found" error
[09:42] <Enverex> rellim : Running without flaw is different from not being able to unstall something due to it not being 64bit compatible
[09:42] <jrib> kd7swh: have you installed dvdcss?
[09:42] <kd7swh> yess
[09:42] <craigtmackenzie> oh really?
[09:42] <rellim> Enverex: well, like i said ... just flash and wine don't run on amd64, but cedega does if you have that
[09:42] <jrib> kd7swh: what's the exact error you get from xine?
[09:42] <craigtmackenzie> damn
[09:43] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: yeah :(
[09:43] <Hhhhh> hello, I reinstalled Windows in my dual boot, now I am trying to do grub-install. How do I do it with the Ubuntu DVD? There is no boot prompt
[09:43] <mzuverink> I have mplayer plugin for firefox installed, but do not like the way that it is handling realmedia content.  is there a way to disable just the realplayer codec aspect of mplayer?
[09:43] <compact> um i took the cdrom repostiory a way and now synaptic is locked up
[09:43] <Hhhhh> !grub
[09:43] <craigtmackenzie> rellim: can i send direct over irc?
[09:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:43] <rellim> Enverex: but everything i use works on amd64
[09:43] <Enverex> rellim : I have Wine working on Gentoo AMD64 with compatability libraries...
[09:43] <kd7swh> xine said it could not read from source
[09:43] <lepine> is there a package that would install a working apache 1.3 + php 5 for the desktop edition as simply as it does for the server edition?
[09:43] <kd7swh> still encrypted
[09:43] <Enverex> I'm just wondering if I'd prefer Ubuntu to Gentoo
[09:43] <narfmaster> compact, wow really?
[09:43] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: yes, but i don't like too ... just moral issues with irc transfers
[09:43] <jrib> kd7swh: how about libxine-extracodecs?
[09:43] <craigtmackenzie> http://www.flickr.com/photos/craigtmackenzie/186660189/ ???
[09:44] <craigtmackenzie> i know
[09:44] <compact> yeah...its locked up...how do i force the program to close?
[09:44] <kd7swh> don't have that
[09:44] <Warbo> compact: xkill
[09:44] <rellim> Enverex: well, then you might be able to do it if you compile from source there just isn't a binary install of it and i'm lazy and don't need it so i never tried beyond that
[09:44] <kd7swh> I will brb I am going to login as root
[09:44] <Sasquatch> how do you prevent a module from starting at boot?
[09:44] <Warbo> compact: Then click on the window
[09:44] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: that one worked
[09:44] <jrib> kditty: why?
[09:45] <jrib> kditty: sorry wrong name...
[09:45] <craigtmackenzie> rellim: sweet :)
[09:45] <compact> warbo: Xkill in the terminal...then click window...and then enter?
[09:45] <Enverex> hmm
[09:45] <Sasquatch> anyone? how do you prevent a module from starting at boot?
[09:45] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: gimme a minute though, i need to look something up
[09:45] <compact> me is linux n00b
[09:45] <craigtmackenzie> ok
[09:45] <Warbo> compact: Run "sudo xkill" to be on the safe side (synaptic is run as root), then it will change the pointer to a skull and crossbones. Click on Synaptic to kill it
[09:46] <compact> ok
[09:46] <rellim> Enverex: but like i said, cedega works and i tested it myself just for kicks ... so i'm sure wine would too, they both run on the same underlying software ... there just isn't a binary of wine so i didn't bother
[09:46] <Enverex> hmm
[09:46] <SurfnKid> um
[09:47] <raptros-v76> ...
[09:47] <Enverex> Has anyone here come from Gentoo?
[09:47] <compact> ok got it
[09:47] <ruxpin> Enverex: yup
[09:47] <Enverex> I've used Gentoo for years but I'm kinda sick of spending so much time compiling and unbreaking things...
[09:47] <Sasquatch> anyone? how do you prevent a module from starting at boot?
[09:47] <Warbo> Sasquatch: You need to blacklist it (don't ask me how)
[09:48] <SurfnKid> can I change eth1 to wlan0 yes please if so how
[09:48] <Sasquatch> lol, anyone else, how do you blacklist modules?
[09:48] <LjL> !blacklist > sasquatch
[09:48] <Sasquatch> thanks
[09:48] <SurfnKid> Sasquatch,  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[09:48] <asdasldkfadgf> QUESTION: When will ubuntu be issueing a new kernel in response to recent security flaws....and will it be a patch or a new kernel like.... 2.6.17 : )
[09:48] <Sasquatch> SurfnKid: already got it, thanks
[09:48] <SurfnKid> no probs
[09:48] <caonex> There seems to be a problem with the clock setting in my ubuntu, the clock switches from UTC to local whenever it pleases and I have to keep changing the configuration. Sometimes UTC has to be selected to see the local time, and otherwise. Anybody else with this problem, any ideas on how to solve it?
[09:49] <SurfnKid> check BIOS?
[09:49] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: i think i found a web page that might, help ... i am just waiting for it to load to be sure
[09:49] <rsk> caonex, a solution would be setting up ntpdate. althou thats not fixing the problem.
[09:49] <caonex> rsk: i did that
[09:49] <rellim> Enverex: i have used gentoo, but it was never my main OS
[09:49] <skeith> I think dapper will keep whatever kernel it has now (2.6.15?), how edgy will have the newest kernel I believe
[09:49] <dredhammer> hey folks silly question time
[09:49] <caonex> rsk: but the system reads that and interprets it according to local or utc
[09:49] <rellim> Enverex: (sorry for the delayed response)
[09:49] <caonex> rsk:  i have accurate time, it is just how it is displayed
[09:49] <rsk> oh
[09:49] <dredhammer> batch renaming files from gui is it possible in nautilus?
[09:50] <craigtmackenzie> rellim: cool cool :)
[09:50] <anton_> hola alguien que hale espaol????????????
[09:50] <caonex> rsk: so i have to keep alternating and dislike that
[09:50] <LjL> !es
[09:50] <jrib> !es
[09:50] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:50] <jrib> dredhammer: no not in nautilus that I know of
[09:50] <Warbo> dredhammer: I like krename for that (works fine in GNOME, you can drag 'n' drop from Nautilus)
[09:50] <sn00p> How do I play movies that are dovei in ubuntu?
[09:50] <narfmaster> asdasldkfadgf, you mean this one? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197181
[09:50] <dredhammer> so would i have any problems with thunar?
[09:50] <dredhammer> i found it in my ad/remove programs
[09:50] <SurfnKid> can anyone tell me how to change the wifi alias from eth1 to wlan0?
[09:51] <dredhammer> don't know where that came form
[09:51] <dredhammer> *from
[09:51] <dredhammer> it just appeared after the recent update
[09:51] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: ok, apparently it isn't a kernel crash ... it is just a hang and it should continue to boot after the error message, it just takes a while... then once the system is up, so an update && upgrade to get the newer kernel release and that _should_ fix the problem
[09:52] <anton_> como llego a ese canal?
[09:52] <roshan_s> I'm having trouble building a package with pbuilder. The package build-depends on libqt4-dev. That build-depends on xlibmesa-gl-dev | libgl-dev. The former doesn't exist, and the latter is a virtual package. From what I can see, pbuilder chokes on virtual packages. Can anyone help me? I don't understand how this problem can exist with a package from the ubuntu archive, which countless other packages depend on.
[09:52] <craigtmackenzie> rellim: it's still hanging now, since i first asked my question
[09:52] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: wow ... hrmmm
[09:52] <craigtmackenzie> should i press enter or something? (parrallels dosen't have focus)
[09:53] <flixil> anton_: /join #ubuntu-es
[09:53] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: you could try pressing enter, but i don't know if it would do anything
[09:53] <anton_> gracias flixil
[09:53] <jrib> roshan_s: what package are you building?
[09:53] <craigtmackenzie> just moved the blinky down a couple of returns
[09:53] <craigtmackenzie> it's basically still on the same screen as in my flickr post
[09:53] <roshan_s> I'm building compiz from http://ubuntu.compiz.net.
[09:54] <masterofallarts> hi!
[09:54] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: ok, lemme check one more thing ...
[09:54] <masterofallarts> how to use gcc3.3 though I have a newer version?
[09:54] <craigtmackenzie> rellim: k
[09:54] <roshan_s> sorry, that was addressed to jrib: I'm building compiz from http://ubuntu.compiz.net.
[09:55] <caonex> Anybody knows why sometimes sound goes off, although there is still playback
[09:55] <caonex> ?
[09:55] <masterofallarts> what is the option that goes to ./configure?
[09:55] <LjL> masterofallarts: "export CC=gcc-3.3"
[09:55] <LjL> masterofallarts: type that before starting configure
[09:55] <sn00p> How do I play movies that are dovei in ubuntu?
[09:55] <masterofallarts> LjL: thank you!
[09:55] <LjL> masterofallarts: and if C++ is also involved, type also "export CXX=g++-3.3"
[09:55] <rsk> sn00p, mplayer file should do
[09:56] <sn00p> rsk, no it says I need the latest dovei when I play it in mplayer
[09:56] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: ok, you are running this on a mac?
[09:56] <rsk> sn00p, goto #mplayer
[09:56] <craigtmackenzie> !help
[09:56] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:57] <ubotu> foo
[09:57] <craigtmackenzie> rellim: yes
[09:57] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: is it an intel mac or a powerpc?
[09:57] <jrib> roshan_s: hmm I was going to try to build it here but takes too long to download on dialup.  Don't really have any ideas otherwise, gl
[09:57] <craigtmackenzie> intel via parllels
[09:58] <dooglus> how do I find out what colour a particular pixel is in an image?
[09:58] <masterofallarts> hmpf, error persists. i will renounce to a feature, then.
[09:58] <masterofallarts> of dillo
[09:58] <dooglus> I was thinking ImageMagick might be able to help, but I can't see how
[09:58] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: ok, now things are making more sense to me... just a minute
[09:58] <craigtmackenzie> ok rellim and thank you so much
[09:58] <roshan_s> rib: As far as I can see, the problem isn't with compiz, but with libqt4-dev from universe. That package build-depends on a virtual package, and pbuilder can't handle that. It doesn't know how to choose a real package. I wish I knew how the Launchpad builds its packages. Thanks anyway.
[09:58] <masterofallarts> how do i take the exports back?
[09:59] <Warbo> dooglus: I would just open it in the GIMP, zoom in and use the eye-dropper
[09:59] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: no problem ...
[09:59] <craigtmackenzie> :)
[09:59] <Enverex> How far behind actual releses are things in apt-get?
[09:59] <dooglus> Warbo: I'm wanting to do it from a script.  Is the GIMP's eye-dropper scriptable?
[09:59] <caonex> Thre was an error initialiazing the audio i/o layer. You will not be able to play or record audio., , this is one of the errors i get all the time about sound. why?
[09:59] <Warbo> dooglus: Maybe, but I doubt it :(
[09:59] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: i have some good and some bad news, the good news is i know how to fix it, the bad news is that every fix i see requires you to boot into the system
[09:59] <Ries> hey Guys I just need a YES or NO answer, I need to install ubuntu software raid1 over twi SATA disks... is this possible with the default installed? o
[10:00] <rellim> rellim: it is a kernel issue and the new kernel fixes the problem
[10:00] <craigtmackenzie> rellim: why is that a bad thing? ahhhh i see now
[10:00] <craigtmackenzie> i can't :)
[10:00] <Warbo> Enverex: Usually the lastest or second latest releases are in the packages. Some packages are even built from CVS
[10:01] <craigtmackenzie> ok so like can i get that kernel (???) for version 5.x
[10:01] <craigtmackenzie> because that i can install + boot no problem
[10:01] <craigtmackenzie> so far...
[10:01] <Enverex> Warbo : I mean timewise
[10:01] <craigtmackenzie> + i can run from live cd
[10:02] <pppoe_dude> where is the source tree downloaded when i use apt-get source
[10:02] <pppoe_dude> ?
[10:02] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: yeah, just install 5.10 and then edit the sources.list file to point to newest repositories, sudo apt-get update -> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -> sudo apt-get update && upgrade
[10:02] <] GD> hmm.. how do you use Ruby's IRB if you have it installed already?
[10:02] <Warbo> pppoe_dude: /var/lib/dpkg/lists I think
[10:02] <jrib> pppoe_dude: current working directory
[10:02] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: its a slow way to do it, but it should work without a problem
[10:03] <Warbo> pppoe_dude: Never mind me :)
[10:03] <craigtmackenzie> rellim: can you private that code to me
[10:03] <masterofallarts> does it suffice to set CC and CXX back if I restart X?
[10:03] <Ries> software raid1 on unbutu server... is it correct that ubuntu server cannot install directly software raid1???
[10:03] <dimitroff> hello. i am trying to boot the dapper live cd via usb-stick. what i did so far was to put an mbr, syslinux, a syslinux config file, the ubuntu hd-media vmlinuz and initramdisk and the 6.06 desktop .iso on my stick. trouble is that the kernel boots from usb but when it comes to loading the .iso i only get the error message that there are errors while loading it and i might check if it is a good image. any tips on installing the live system
[10:04] <craigtmackenzie> also i may need some guidence setting that up, i first need to re-install 5.10
[10:04] <LjL> masterofallarts: hm? those variables are only valid inside the shell where you set them
[10:04] <pppoe_dude> jrib, thanks
[10:04] <masterofallarts> ok, nice LjL
[10:04] <masterofallarts> thx
[10:04] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: and for reference on editing sources.list and upgrading, check http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_upgrade_from_Hoary_Hedgehog_-.3E_Breezy_Badger_-.3E_Dapper_Drake
[10:04] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: that tutorial is flawless :)
[10:05] <craigtmackenzie> sweet
[10:05] <] GD> hmm.. how do you use Ruby's IRB if you have it installed already?
[10:05] <dooglus> ] GD: type "irb""
[10:05] <craigtmackenzie> ok here i go, first step get 5.10 on there!!! rellim, let me just say thank you, you are amazing, thank you for taking the time to help me, i really really am very very gratefull, i can see the ubuntu community is a really good place. :)
[10:06] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: and to get the new kernel, after the upgrade, make sure you update and upgrade again before you "reboot" within paralells
[10:06] <naga_> hello..
[10:06] <craigtmackenzie> rellim, will probably hit you with a few "am i doing this right's"
[10:06] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: anytime, everyone has problems and the only way to learn is to resolve them
[10:07] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: not a problem ... i should be around here
[10:07] <TANATHOS> hey
[10:07] <naga_> i have just installed fluxbox.....how do i make it the default wm when i boot?
[10:07] <TANATHOS> where can I get rssh for lamp?
[10:07] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: do you have aim?
[10:07] <craigtmackenzie> yes
[10:07] <dooglus> naga_: use it once and gdm will ask you if you want to make it the default
[10:07] <craigtmackenzie> (well ichat)
[10:07] <naga_> ok...hehe sorry..but how do i use it once?
[10:08] <rellim> naga_: at gdm, click on "sessions" and then select fluxbox and ok, then it will prompt you and ask if you want it default or just for that session
[10:08] <dooglus> naga_:  on the login screen, find 'sessions' and pick it from there
[10:08] <naga_> ok..cool
[10:08] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: good enough, i use gaim
[10:08] <dooglus> naga_: you'll probably need to restart gdm before it appears though
[10:08] <naga_> my first time with gnome...i usually run debian with fluxbox
[10:08] <craigtmackenzie> rellim: craigtmackenzie [AT]  mac.com :)
[10:08] <naga_> ok..brb..thanks for yer help
[10:08] <rellim> craigtmackenzie: ok, mine is max with alot of #s ... just a min.
[10:09] <J_P> hey, are there acitvex plugin to firefox / mozilla one dapper repos ?
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> J_P: activex does not work in firefox (afaik).
[10:10] <J_P> fyrestrtr: so, someone browser where I can use one activex plugin ?
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> J_P: don't know, sorry.
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> what plugin is it?>
[10:11] <dooglus> J_P: yes, there's an activex plugin for firefox
[10:11] <EnsignRedshirt> Is there a tool available for post-processing the sound in an AVI file?  My camera can create short AVI files, but the sound it terrible.
[10:11] <EnsignRedshirt> s/it terr/is terr/
[10:11] <rellim> i R nUb ... need to learn how to use my mouse for effectively or just use all keyboard combos
[10:12] <Bilange> EnsignRedshirt, are you using a canon camera by any chance?
[10:12] <EnsignRedshirt> Bilange: Yup.
[10:12] <dooglus> J_P: http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/mozilla.htm
[10:12] <EnsignRedshirt> Bilange: Powershot A85
[10:12] <tarsier> is it normal for flash to not have sound if i have another app that has sound open such as rhythmbox?
[10:13] <Sub> tarsier, sound in flash is very sketchy
[10:13] <Bilange> EnsignRedshirt, I dont know programs that does all, but I managed to get the AVI files recompressed in xvid +mp3 with some commands in a terminal, if that can interest you
[10:13] <Sub> is this in firefox?
[10:13] <tarsier> yea
[10:13] <Sub> yeah firefox locks up the dsp
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> tarsier: depends on the sound card, some cannot handle simultaneous streams.
[10:13] <tarsier> i havent noticed any problems except for with flash/firefox now that i think about it
[10:14] <] GD> hmm i'm sure i have ruby... entering ruby --version gives me 1.8.4 but entering in irb results in command not found, how do i run the IRB?
[10:14] <EnsignRedshirt> Bilange: It might, but I'm not sure about the "recompress" part.  Would that change the sound quality?
[10:14] <andy-> anyone know how to get OSS to work?!
[10:14] <dooglus> ] GD: you run irb by typing "irb".  I've told you that already.
[10:14] <Sub> andy-, open source software??
[10:14] <andy-> I have sound, I can play MP3's etc, just no sound in UT2004.
[10:14] <] GD> right, and i get a "command not found"
[10:14] <dooglus> ] GD: you install irb by installing "irb".  Use synaptic.
[10:14] <torie> Hey I want to get Quake II running with Ubuntu anyone know where I can find repos for that?
[10:14] <reiki_work> anyone have any trouble boting from or burning to an exteranl USB DVD burner? I may replace my old Plextor
[10:14] <andy-> Sub its Open Sound Something..
[10:15] <Bilange> not really, my camera uses "raw audio " (not even wave files), and its lower quality wise than a mp3 64kbps
[10:15] <] GD> ahh, i thought it came with the ruby installation
[10:15] <Sub> oh i only have exp. with alsa
[10:15] <hammady> hey how can i play files encoded with compressed DVI_ADPCM (Intel corporation) ?
[10:15] <GaiaX11> Is there any channel in freenode about shell command line and shell scripting?
[10:15] <andy-> Sub: The OSS Sound system does not appear to be working or available.  That..
[10:15] <dooglus> GaiaX11: there's #bash
[10:15] <roostishaw> does anyone know of a replacement clock for the one in the panel?
[10:15] <jrib> GaiaX11: #bash if you use bash, #zsh if you use zsh, and probably others for other shells too
[10:16] <scotty_> does any1 know a good site to download themes
[10:16] <andy-> This test attempts to play a sound file at 44 kHz with the Open Sound System (OSS).
[10:16] <scotty> scotty_ ... stop trying to use my nicks
[10:16] <andy-> Anyone had this problem before?
[10:16] <sbalneav> roostishaw: What is it your looking for?
[10:16] <GaiaX11> dooglus, jrib. Thanks!
[10:16] <rellim> andy-: tried alsa?
[10:16] <hammady> no way to play compressed wav (ADPCM) ??
[10:16] <rellim> andy-: or you set on OSS?
[10:16] <EnsignRedshirt> Bilange: I just noticed the time... I have to run.  If you are around later, I'll ping.  Ciao.
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> roostishaw: you could use gdesklets
[10:16] <andy-> alsa works
[10:16] <andy-> i have sound
[10:16] <rellim> andy-: oh ..
[10:16] <andy-> but no in-game sound
[10:17] <andy-> Like UT2004 has no sound.
[10:17] <roostishaw> sbalneav, a clock application that sits on my upper panel... that dosn't use 12 megs of ram
[10:17] <rellim> andy-: then i didn't read the right part of the problem
[10:17] <rellim> andy-: ohhhh ... don't know about that one
[10:17] <jrib> andy-: have you tried running it 'aoss ut2004' or whatever the command is?
[10:17] <andy-> hrmm, ill post it on forums, maybe someone heared about it
[10:17] <DVI_ADPCM> no help here?
[10:17] <andy-> jrib: no, what does that do?
[10:17] <Matic`Makovec> !explain w32codecs
[10:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about explain w32codecs
[10:17] <sbalneav> roostishaw: I doubt it's using 12 megs of ram: you'll be seeing a lot of gtk shared memory in that figure.
[10:17] <TANATHOS> how can i upload my site on ubuntu server?
[10:17] <andy-> jrib: force it in alsa?
[10:18] <Matic`Makovec> !help
[10:18] <DVI_ADPCM> ok i will give it a try
[10:18] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:18] <ubotu> foo
[10:18] <Otacon22> wich plugin i have to install for see .ram on mplayer?
[10:18] <roostishaw> sbalneav, what is gtk sharred ram? nad how can i tell for sure?
[10:18] <dAndy> anybody know if there is a way to disable the update notifier for user accounts?
[10:18] <devhen> Otacon22, why not install RealPlayer 10?
[10:18] <andy-> jrib: oww! yea, that was a bad idea. "aoss ut2004" creates a very high pitched sound =\
[10:18] <sbalneav> andy-:  it may work if you go to System->Preferences->Sound, and disable software mixing.  ESD has control of sound, and may be locking /dev/dsp.
[10:19] <jrib> andy-: well ut2004 probably tries to use oss but something else is using it.  aoss is an alsa wrapper for oss apps, just install alsa-oss if you haven't already so that you have that command
[10:19] <Ries> nobody have a couple of hints for ubuntu and software raid during install???
[10:19] <Matic`Makovec> !tell
[10:19] <jrib> !w32codecs > Matic`Makovec
[10:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> dAndy: you could remove it from the session startup programs (System > Preferences > Sessions) then the Startup tab.
[10:19] <Matic`Makovec> ee, thank you
[10:19] <Matic`Makovec> forgot the command
[10:19] <jokersmild> What do I need to do to copy a disk image in Ubuntu?
[10:19] <andy-> jrib: yeah its installed, ill try what sbalneav is saying.
[10:19] <dAndy> fyrestrtr: is there a way to set the default for the globally? (We have 5000 users)
[10:20] <andy-> sbalneav: that didn't do it either =\
[10:20] <etavi> realplayer 10 UI is very unresponsive while playing video, in my case, is it the 'regular' behavior ?
[10:20] <haller> anyone knows how to edit a pdf or import it properly to scribus or ooffice?
[10:20] <sbalneav> roostishaw: Whenever you load gnome, there's a bunch of libraries needed.  They're loaded once, and all apps use them.  But when you do a ps, they'll appear to be part of any app.  So the clock app may only use up 500k of it's own, but link into 12 megs of libs that everything else is using.
[10:21] <sbalneav> andy-: You'll have to log out and back in again for that to work.
[10:21] <torie> Hey I want to get Quake II running with Ubuntu anyone know where I can find repos for that?
[10:21] <roostishaw> sbalneav, oh, thank you
[10:21] <devhen> haller, try opening the file in xpdf or another viewer and see if it will let you save it as a diff file type
[10:21] <andy-> oh..
[10:21] <dAndy> fyrestrtr: I have tried in /usr/share/gnome/sesssion.default but it isnt mentioned there
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> dAndy: good question, don't know unfortunately. Might try your luck in #gnome.
[10:21] <LjL> !info quake2
[10:21] <EmxBA> does anyone know how can i restore taskbar on ubuntu? i tried to make my ubuntu look like osx, but unfortunatelly it doesn't work, not i want to return my taskbar
[10:21] <ubotu> quake2: improved version of id Software's Quake II engine. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1240 kB, installed size 3144 kB
[10:21] <dAndy> fyrestrtr: good idea thanks
[10:22] <EmxBA> how can i do that?????
[10:22] <EmxBA> please help me
[10:22] <LjL> torie: ^
[10:22] <hoehaver> hey what do i type in the termenal to see if i have opengl running
[10:22] <hoehaver> ya know where it says direct rendering
[10:22] <Flannel> EmxBA: right click "add panel" then right click on that "add to panel"
[10:22] <EmxBA> anyone? i need to restore taskbar
[10:22] <EmxBA> !
[10:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about !
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> hoehaver: glxinfo | grep direct
[10:22] <EmxBA> Flannel: add to panel, ok and then???add to panel again? lol
[10:22] <jokersmild> How would I do something evquivelent to Norton Ghost?  I have a hardware partner that is interested in shipping boxes with Linux installed, but I don't want to go through the install process for each box.  The hardware on each machine will be the same for each computer.
[10:22] <torie> Thanks LjL
[10:23] <Otacon22> devhen, i have realplayer 10 but it give me problems... I prefer tu use mplayer, can i use it?
[10:23] <torie> !info quake2
[10:23] <EmxBA> that's a window list
[10:23] <ubotu> quake2: improved version of id Software's Quake II engine. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1240 kB, installed size 3144 kB
[10:23] <EmxBA> ok
[10:23] <Flannel> EmxBA: no, one is "all panel" which creates a bar, the next adds things to that bar, like the workspace chooser, or a menu, etc
[10:23] <EmxBA> solved
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> !msgthebot
[10:23] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[10:23] <LjL> !tell torie about multiverse
[10:23] <CzarAlex`> Good day, Im trying to install Ubuntu 6.06 and when i choose the install option i get: PCI: cannot allocate resource region 3 of device 0000:00:00.0. I've been able to run 5.04 and 5.10 on this system with no issues. Suggestions?
[10:23] <Music^Hound> what's needed to connect to samba window shares in gnome ?
[10:23] <ezeki3l> help, i tried installing openssh-server and it says
[10:23] <dAndy> !update-notifier
[10:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about update-notifier
[10:23] <devhen> Otacon22: dont know. sorry, havent tried realplayer files in mplayer
[10:23] <ezeki3l> E: Couldn't find package openssh-server
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> Music^Hound: nothing, Places -> Network Servers
[10:23] <ezeki3l> what should i do?
[10:24] <kalosaurusrex> CzarAlex`: older system?
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> !info openssh-server
[10:24] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 540 kB
[10:24] <gnomefreak> !info openssh-server
[10:24] <CzarAlex`> kalosaurusrex, No actually. 6 months old.
[10:24] <etavi> realplayer 10 UI is very unresponsive while playing video, in my case, is it the 'regular' behavior ?
[10:24] <gnomefreak> ezeki3l: fix your repos
[10:24] <kalosaurusrex> CzarAlex`: hmm interesting.  could try booting with acpi=off
[10:24] <sbalneav> jokersmild: you'll want to google for ubuntu pre-seeds.  As well, simply using dd might get you a long way.  Google is your friend.
[10:24] <Otacon22> can i try to move real plugin in mplayer's plugins folder?
[10:24] <CzarAlex`> kalosaurusrex, is that a bios setting? (i show my n00bness..)
[10:24] <roostishaw> how do i horizontally resize a panel?
[10:25] <jokersmild> sbalneav: thanks, what is "dd"?
[10:25] <ketethatooblack> ok i need so muchhelp. im not understanding how music works on linux
[10:25] <gnomefreak> ezeki3l: it looks like you might be either using the cdrom repo or you dont have main in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:25] <ketethatooblack> how can i download files and listent o them in the music player. whats the extension and how do i get music with that extension
[10:25] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: properties?
[10:25] <kalosaurusrex> CzarAlex`: when you boot off the dapper cd there should be an other options or something?  can't recall off the top of my head. but it's a boot option after you boot from the dapper cd
[10:25] <sbalneav> jokersmild: man dd in a shell prompt.  Will tell you lots and lots
[10:25] <LjL> !tell ketethatooblack about mp3
[10:25] <devhen> ketethatooblack: linux will play any music format that windows or mac will
[10:25] <shadowpanda> narfmaster: on step 4 it asks me to type cvscedega into terminal but terminal says that it isnt a command.
[10:25] <CzarAlex`> kalosaurusrex, ill give it a whirl! thanks Comrade.
[10:25] <kalosaurusrex> CzarAlex`: np hope it helps!
[10:26] <ketethatooblack> devhen: are you sure about that it doesnt work really. lets say i use singingfish.com and open the file
[10:26] <jokersmild> sbalneav: thanks, I'll probably be back with more questions
[10:26] <sbalneav> jokersmild: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_copy_a_Linux_installation will get you part of the way
[10:26] <Music^Hound> fyrestrtr I keep getting "smb:///" is not a valid location.
[10:26] <ketethatooblack> devhen: it wont open in the music player. rythmnbox or whatever
[10:26] <devhen> ketethatooblack: what format is it in?
[10:26] <LjL> ketethatooblack: MP3 support is not included by default, because MP3 is a patented format. please read Ubotu's links for all information, especially the first site.
[10:26] <Music^Hound> but it works fine in kde
[10:26] <sherwin> music hound i get the same problem
[10:26] <ketethatooblack> devhen: what do you mean?
[10:27] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: what type of media is it?
[10:27] <devhen> ketethatooblack: what is the file extension?!
[10:27] <DShepherd> is there a sound converter that uses gstreamer0.10? if so what is the name of it?
[10:27] <ketethatooblack> devhen: mp3
[10:27] <Music^Hound> sherwin: I'll let ya know if I find a fix
[10:27] <gnomefreak> !mp3 > ketethatooblack
[10:27] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, no. there is only an option to make it thicker, and i want it shorter
[10:27] <sherwin> cheers
[10:27] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: please read your pm
[10:27] <hoehaver> what is a cam key?
[10:27] <LjL> !info soundconverter
[10:27] <ubotu> soundconverter: simple sound converter application for GNOME. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 216 kB
[10:27] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: in gnome?
[10:27] <LjL> DShepherd: ^
[10:27] <hoehaver> for gyache
[10:27] <ketethatooblack> ok im giong to red it now thankss
[10:27] <hoehaver> i think thats how its spelled
[10:27] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, yes
[10:28] <DShepherd> LjL: it uses gstreamer0.8
[10:28] <LjL> DShepherd: oh
[10:28] <hoehaver> not what is it but where is it?
[10:28] <DShepherd> LjL: want something with gstreamer0.10
[10:28] <devhen> ketethatooblack: did you get that message? if not, type !mp3 it will tell you how to get the software
[10:28] <buzzed> how can i fix low start up...
[10:28] <hoehaver> how do i find it
[10:28] <devhen> !mp3
[10:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:28] <ProN00b> whats the command i use instead of "make install" to make a deb package ?
[10:28] <ezeki3l> howhow?ho3okAAAA5~5~AAA2AO2BO2B
[10:28] <devhen> gotta go
[10:28] <ompaul> ezeki3l, ?
[10:28] <LjL> !tell ProN00b about checkinstall
[10:28] <DShepherd> ProN00b: checkinstall. but you need to install the package first
[10:28] <Warbo> ProN00b: "sudo checkinstall -D"
[10:29] <gnomefreak> hes got me on that one
[10:29] <flixil> ProN00b: your nick is very... logic? xD
[10:29] <buzzed> seem like metacity takes long to load like a minute
[10:29] <hoehaver> hey i wanna know how to make deb packages aswell
[10:29] <ketethatooblack> i'll read and get back to you guys if i still dont understand.
[10:29] <ketethatooblack> warbo: HI. hahaha
[10:29] <andy-> Bla! this is pissing me off, sound worked in UT2004 yesterday before I formated to get rid of Windows completely. Fresh install today, everything runs except no sound.. =\
[10:29] <hoehaver> can you tell the server or what ever to tell me about it to :D
[10:29] <ompaul> !language
[10:29] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:29] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: Hello
[10:29] <shadowpanda> can someone help me set up Cedega CVS?
[10:29] <hoehaver> thank you
[10:30] <haller> devhen, xpdf, kpdf and gpdf only let me save pdf files as pdf files.
[10:30] <buzzed> is there a better window manager?
[10:30] <LjL> hoehaver: that will not really create policy-compliant .deb packages, nor packages that list dependencies.
[10:30] <LjL> hoehaver: it's just handy for uninstalling manually-compiled stuff (and reinstalling it later)
[10:30] <ompaul> buzzed, what are your values for better?
[10:31] <Morrowyn> andy, maybe check the sound volumes stuff....
[10:31] <hoehaver> i see
[10:31] <buzzed> stable and fast...
[10:31] <andy-> wow, know what it was.. "Listen" was running
[10:31] <buzzed> functionality
[10:31] <andy-> hah..
[10:31] <andy-> Got it working, thx.
[10:31] <ompaul> buzzed, what proc and how much ram
[10:31] <buzzed> like viewing pictures
[10:31] <SurfnKid> !XGL
[10:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:32] <CzarAlex`> kalosaurusrex, no dice but i copied down the full error. one moment while i google and save myself looking like an idiot. :)
[10:32] <boxgamex> whats cant you do if you compile cedega from the cvg?
[10:32] <ketethatooblack> devhen: ok i read up and it says mp3 isnt supported and that ogg vorbis is what is in use but how do i get ogg vorbis formatted songs or whatever
[10:32] <LjL> haller: perhaps you want "pdftoedit" or "pdftoipe" (and "ipe")
[10:32] <ketethatooblack> im going to install the mp3 support
[10:32] <shadowpanda> boxgamex: can you help me set up my Cedega CVS?
[10:33] <boxgamex> nope. i dont know either
[10:33] <boxgamex> lol
[10:33] <shadowpanda> haha dammn
[10:33] <ompaul> buzzed, try installing xfce, >> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop<< support in #xubuntu if your looking for more speed
[10:33] <shadowpanda> boxgamex: what step are you on?
[10:33] <boxgamex> im not compiling it
[10:33] <boxgamex> im just wondering what the limit is if you do
[10:34] <ketethatooblack> ok i really dont understand what i'm doing
[10:34] <guest_Lucky> Unable to mount the selected volume. mount: only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1
[10:34] <guest_Lucky> how to mount it
[10:35] <guest_Lucky> i've forgot? :P
[10:35] <CzarAlex`> kalosaurusrex, okay.. i get two lines and thats it: MP-Bios Bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC (line 2:) PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 3 of device 0000:00:00.0
[10:35] <guest_Lucky> !mount
[10:35] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[10:35] <DVI_ADPCM> hey w32codecs did not work!!!!
[10:35] <DVI_ADPCM> how can i play such format?
[10:35] <DVI_ADPCM> should gst-plugins-bad work?
[10:36] <ompaul> !w32codecs > DVI_ADPCM
[10:36] <CzarAlex`> kalosaurusrex, Im finding fixes for this problem but they are used -after- the system is intalled..im still trying to install.
[10:36] <Warbo> Anyone got experience with vnc2swf?
[10:36] <ketethatooblack> ok my problem is i dont know how ot play regular mp3 files is there a way i can make mp3 files play on rythmn box
[10:36] <sherwin> how do i get ethernet
[10:36] <guest_Lucky> I have a problem: ''mount: only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1'' I've forgot how to mount it! Help me!
[10:36] <EmxBA> it's me again
[10:36] <Warbo> guest_Lucky: Use "sudo" before the command
[10:36] <EmxBA> can aynone just tell me whihc fonts are default ?
[10:36] <jrib> guest_Lucky: sudo mount   ?
[10:37] <guest_Lucky> tell me the entire command pls
[10:37] <EmxBA> go to system-> preferences-> fonts
[10:37] <EmxBA> and read it please
[10:37] <jrib> !mp3 > ketethatooblack
[10:37] <Warbo> guest_Lucky: "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1"
[10:37] <EmxBA> application font?
[10:37] <shadowpanda> Warbo: might you be able to help me configure Cedega CVS?
[10:37] <EmxBA> document font?
[10:37] <EmxBA> deksotp font?
[10:37] <ketethatooblack> jrib; i've gotten that 3 times but i dont understnad
[10:37] <EmxBA> window title font?
[10:37] <sherwin> how do i get ethereal network analyser
[10:37] <Warbo> shadowpanda: I severely doubt it
[10:37] <jrib> guest_Lucky: it depends on what you are doing.  What filesystem does it use? have you set it up in fstab?
[10:37] <EmxBA> fixed window font?
[10:37] <EmxBA> anyone?
[10:37] <guest_Lucky> tnx
[10:37] <guest_Lucky> again
[10:37] <guest_Lucky> :)
[10:37] <ketethatooblack> if mp3 is a restricted format what can i do to unrestrict it or how do i get ogg files
[10:38] <shadowpanda> Warbo: ok
[10:38] <EmxBA> Just *please* read me default ubuntu fonts!
[10:38] <ketethatooblack> is there a website with music .ogg that i can use?
[10:38] <CzarAlex`> How can i choose NOAPIC when booting dapper drake to install?
[10:38] <EmxBA> anyone? please....system->preferences->fonts and read me default fonts
[10:38] <Warbo> !universe
[10:38] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:39] <AndyCooll_> EmxBA: stop 3 sans, then Sans Bold, finally Monospace
[10:39] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: Read that to get access to MP3 stuff
[10:39] <diablo`> "Fatal error: Call to undefined function:  mysql_escape_string()" php error, is there any chance that its because ubuntu php packge ?
[10:39] <phaedrus44> ello....does ubuntu come with a torrent client?
[10:39] <jrib> ketethatooblack: install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly , do you know how to install packages?
[10:39] <phaedrus44> os[Linux 2.6.15-25-386 i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x Pentium III (Coppermine) @ 997MHz]  mem[Physical : 249MB, 69.8% free]  disk[Total : 22.35GB, 41.50% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation NV5 [RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro] ]  sound[ICH - Intel 82801BA-ICH2] 
[10:39] <phaedrus44> oopps...sorry
[10:39] <diablo`> phaedrus44: whats script is it ?
[10:39] <ketethatooblack> jrib: warbo explained it to me last night. i think it was extract. open the terminal cd the file name and then i forgot the rest =[
[10:39] <EmxBA> AndyCooll: "stop 3 sans"?
[10:39] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: No way!
[10:40] <jrib> ketethatooblack: just go to system > administration > synaptic
[10:40] <DShepherd> is there a sound converter that uses gstreamer0.10? if so what is the name of it?
[10:40] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: That is for source code, packages are damn easy
[10:40] <jrib> ketethatooblack: but you may need to enable universe like Warbo said first
[10:40] <phaedrus44> uh....uncomment worldwide repo and apt-get update    and  search for xchat in synaptic...it is listed...a sysinfo script
[10:40] <AndyCooll_> Emxba: "top 3". my typing mistake
[10:40] <EmxBA> ok
[10:40] <EmxBA> tnx
[10:40] <phaedrus44> any torrent software come with ubuntu?
[10:40] <Warbo> Anyone know why pyvnc2swf hangs on me?
[10:41] <SurfnKid> anyone know a way to rename eth1 to wlan0 using ndiswrapper with bcmwl5 driver?
[10:41] <ketethatooblack> warbo && jrib: oh ok. OOH then i choose the package i want and install jrib?
[10:41] <sherwin> how do i set my eth up ?
[10:41] <jrib> ketethatooblack: yep very easy
[10:41] <WooD> can we start in kde in Ubuntu ?
[10:41] <jrib> !kde > WooD
[10:41] <DShepherd> Warbo: I dont know. why dont you hang it on something else
[10:41] <LjL> phaedrus44: yes. just click on a torrent link, and it should work. you won't see the torrent app by default, but if start the Menu Editor from your Applications menu, you'll see it's there -- just hidden. you can unhide it from there.
[10:41] <DShepherd> Warbo: :-)
[10:41] <WooD> jrib: thanks but is gonna start always in kde instead of gnome ?
[10:41] <AndyCooll_> Or use Automatix to install all the codecs
[10:42] <SurfnKid> DShepherd, hehe
[10:42] <smax> Hi! on which site i can generate my one source list
[10:42] <nomats> SurfnKid, have a look at /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[10:42] <LjL> !easysource
[10:42] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:42] <Warbo> DShepherd: It must be my sensual musk :)
[10:42] <phaedrus44> LjL: thanks...i found it...uninstalled and im installing bittornado
[10:42] <jrib> WooD: when you are at the kdm/gdm screen, click options and then session.  You will be given the choice to make kde your default
[10:42] <SurfnKid> nomats, i did, ndiswrapper's alias is wlan0
[10:42] <ketethatooblack> jrib: i cant find gstreamer 0.10 i have a .8
[10:42] <WooD> jrib: thanks a lot .
[10:42] <SurfnKid> nomats, still shows up as eth1
[10:42] <jrib> ketethatooblack: are you using dapper?
[10:42] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: Are you in Dapper or Breezy?
[10:42] <WooD> Any of you have tried the jbidwatcher ? this is a Auctions Tool
[10:43] <Warbo> wood: I think it is out-of-date
[10:43] <ketethatooblack> jrib and warbo: are those things inside of ubuntu
[10:43] <SurfnKid> nomats, i unloaded ndiswrapper, removed driver, loaded driver, moded ndiswrapper again, as usual to reintegrate it
[10:43] <ketethatooblack> warbo && jrib: i believe breezy. i have no clue.
[10:43] <Warbo> !dapper
[10:43] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[10:43] <ketethatooblack> !breezy
[10:43] <ubotu> breezy was the third release of Ubuntu. Version 5.10, codename "Breezy Badger"
[10:43] <jrib> ketethatooblack: then you need gstreamer0.8-mad I believe
[10:43] <WooD> Warbo: ok, I have installed it but having error on java when trying to have watching auctions
[10:44] <ketethatooblack> jrib; ok i'll look for that in the list
[10:44] <SurfnKid> brb
[10:44] <ketethatooblack> nope
[10:44] <Warbo> wood: I think eBay have changed their system and jbidwatcher doesn't work any more
[10:44] <jrib> ketethatooblack: if you aren't sure of your version, then run this command after going to applications > accessories > terminal: lsb_release -c
[10:44] <ketethatooblack> jrib: i have several others some say like .8 - audofile
[10:44] <ketethatooblack> ok
[10:44] <LjL> ketethatooblack: have you enabled universe, and if yes, then have you issued a "sudo apt-get update" after enabling it?
[10:44] <ketethatooblack> jrib: it says n/a
[10:45] <ketethatooblack> ljl: universe?
[10:45] <jrib> ketethatooblack: did you put the -c?
[10:45] <WooD> Warbo: hooo ... do you know something similar that can make almost the same work ?
[10:45] <LjL> !tell ketethatooblack about universe
[10:45] <ketethatooblack> jrib: oh no hahaha wait one second
[10:45] <ketethatooblack> jrib; BREEZY!!
[10:45] <DVI_ADPCM> hey w32codes does not work for me
[10:46] <ketethatooblack> jrib & warbo & ljl: http://www.vorbis.com/setup_linux/ do i need htat?
[10:46] <DVI_ADPCM> why can't i install liblame0?? it says: uninstallable!!
[10:46] <LjL> ketethatooblack: eh? no.
[10:46] <hoehaver> does anyone know how to set up a static IP address
[10:46] <LjL> ketethatooblack: you just need stuff that comes from the Ubuntu repositories.
[10:46] <hoehaver> with a router, ay know
[10:46] <jrib> ketethatooblack: ok, gstreamer0.8-mad is correct for you then.  Since you can't find it, it means you need to enable universe (ljl had the bot send you instructions)
[10:46] <ketethatooblack> ljl: it said that was like aformat to use instead of mp3
[10:46] <hoehaver> i tryed it yesterday and...lol i mest up
[10:46] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: Any software you want is probably already in Ubuntu, don't go downloading stuff off web pages
[10:47] <firebird619> Is there a way to configure tvtime to work with digital speakers?
[10:47] <hoehaver> i was disconnect for like 5 hours, i dont even know how i fixed the router but i did
[10:47] <LjL> ketethatooblack: yes, and that format (i.e. Ogg) is perfectly supported by default under ubuntu, and there's nothing you need to do to make it work. it just works.
[10:47] <WooD> Warbo: do you know something similar ?
[10:47] <DVI_ADPCM> is liblame0 really missing?
[10:47] <Warbo> WooD: Not for Linux (and not for Free)
[10:47] <hoehaver> well, ok
[10:47] <WooD> Warbo: :(
[10:48] <ketethatooblack> w & l & j = warbo ok thank you. ljl and jrib: im so confused
[10:48] <jrib> ketethatooblack: haha ok, I'll just shutup because too many people are talking to you at the same time :)
[10:48] <LjL> ketethatooblack: i'm not sure what's getting you confused. Ogg is an audio format, MP3 is another audio format. Ubuntu supports Ogg out of the box, but it doesn't support MP3 out of the box.
[10:49] <ketethatooblack> ljl: i understand that but i dont really understnad like how i listen to music like at all
[10:49] <LjL> ketethatooblack: (and the reason it doesn't support MP3 out of the box is patents and various legal amenities)
[10:50] <LjL> ketethatooblack: if you want to listen to music that is in the Ogg format, you just double click on the file, or load it into Rhythmbox, or whatever. if you want to listen to MP3, you need to install the "gstreamer0.8-mad" as you have been instructed, after enabling the Universe repository
[10:50] <gleesond> what pkg do I need to install to get the manpages for C.... i.e. man fopen?
[10:50] <LjL> gleesond: manpages-dev
[10:50] <malachi> I'm trying to install OphCrack and am running into this problem: "No package 'gtk+-2.0' found"
[10:51] <gleesond> LjL++
[10:51] <recon0> I can't find a page showing how to upgrade to dapper from breezy (save reinstalling with dapper). Is there a page? Matter of fact, is this even possible?
[10:51] <ketethatooblack> ljl: ok but im trying to get music off the internet
[10:51] <swim> hey folks, I'm having this issue where simply shift+bckspace is causing X to restart...
[10:51] <LjL> !upgrade
[10:51] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[10:51] <LjL> ketethatooblack: i'm not sure i can help you with that.
[10:51] <recon0> that works. thanks.
[10:52] <edgy> Hi, what do I need to install in ubuntu to have ProxyPass support in apache2?
[10:52] <LjL> swim: you have XGL installed.
[10:52] <polpak> gleesond, you need manpages-dev
[10:53] <swim> LjL: yes I do... but there must be a way around that issue?
[10:53] <LjL> swim: perhaps. try asking in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:53] <swim> ok thx
[10:54] <polpak> malachi, you trying to compile from source?
[10:54] <malachi> polpak: yes.
[10:55] <polpak> malachi, sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[10:55] <Hurga> someone using mISDN with Ubuntu?
[10:55] <Music^Hound> sherwin you still here ?
[10:55] <edgy> ok I got it ;)
[10:55] <lz1gjd> !ati
[10:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:55] <Music^Hound> guess not
[10:55] <MystaMax> can someone tell me where to configure vmware server's vmnet adapters?
[10:56] <ketethatooblack> for some reason i cant find this gstreamer .8 - mad on my computer so what do i do to listen to music. is there any other program that will let me play mp3
[10:56] <firebird619> Is there a way to configure tvtime to work with digital speakers?
[10:56] <rexin> anybody have a fix for the warning messages not going away in azureus on dapper?
[10:56] <Music^Hound> figured out the smb:/// not a valid location... you need to isntall libgnomevfs2-extra to fix it
[10:56] <Music^Hound> install*
[10:56] <AngryElf> I've followed the wiki on ATI's drivers yet fglrxinfo still shows the mesa3D project - despite fglrx explicitly being listed in xorg.conf.....any ideas?
[10:57] <h3sp4wn> AngryElf: lsmod | grep fglrx
[10:58] <AngryElf> h3sp4wn, nothing
[10:58] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: "apt-cache search gstreamer0.8-mad"
[10:58] <gatekeeper> ketethatooblack: which application are you using to listen to music?
[10:58] <h3sp4wn> AngryElf: put fglrx into /etc/modules
[10:59] <AngryElf> mmk, brb
[10:59] <ketethatooblack> warbo: ... want me to put that in the terminal
[10:59] <ketethatooblack> gatekeeper: rythmbox but i cant figure out like anything
[10:59] <h3sp4wn> AngryElf: You can do modprobe fglrx but its likely to lock the system
[10:59] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: Yes
[10:59] <ketethatooblack> gatekeeper: what i want to do i download music and open it in rythmbox
[10:59] <ketethatooblack> wabro: ok
[10:59] <pinkman> I have tried mozilla-mplayer, gxine(and the firefox plugin), and I cant get the video in any web page, that has embbeded video, I only am getting the audio.
[10:59] <polpak> !restricted
[10:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:59] <pinkman> Anyone can help me?
[11:00] <polpak> ketethatooblack, ^^ what ubotu said
[11:00] <jrib> pinkman: do you have w32codecs installed?
[11:00] <ketethatooblack> warbo: it went to the next line.
[11:00] <ketethatooblack> polpak: thank you i've had those links but i dont know what to do with them
[11:00] <Hurga> someone using mISDN with Ubuntu?
[11:00] <pinkman> No, how would I install them?(im new to ubuntu/linux)
[11:00] <jrib> !w32codecs > pinkman
[11:00] <polpak> ketethatooblack,  read:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[11:00] <pinkman> Is it a apt-get install w32codecs?
[11:00] <polpak> ketethatooblack, it tells you what you need to install
[11:00] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: Just follow the links to do with universe
[11:01] <Warbo> !easysource
[11:01] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:01] <linux_user400354> how can i change the filename of something im downloading with wget?
[11:01] <_absolution_> will something happen if I install a new processor on my ubuntu machine??
[11:01] <LjL> linux_user400354: wget URL -O filename
[11:01] <polpak> linux_user400354, -O I think
[11:01] <lz1gjd> lz1gjd@ubuntu64:~$ fglrxinfo \n Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual! any ideas ?
[11:01] <jrib> pinkman: they aren't in any official repositories so you may have to get them from seveas' or plf.  Ubotu should have sent you instructions
[11:02] <Gentoon> Just Installed dapper X or something lags my system every coiuple mins PLEASE HELP!
[11:02] <ketethatooblack> warbo & polpak: universe ok let me see
[11:03] <martin__> hey all
[11:03] <bnemo> can anyone tell me how to make ubuntu do a search for new hardware?  I've installed a new (old) sound card from creative labs and I'm not seeming to be able to find it..
[11:03] <martin__> we have sound issues between ALSA and OSS
[11:03] <AngryElf> h3sp4wn, fglrx is now loaded, rebooted, and still not showing up in fglrxinfo
[11:03] <_absolution_> will something happen if I install a new processor on my ubuntu machine??
[11:03] <ketethatooblack> warbo: you want me to put that code on that page in the terminal?
[11:04] <martin__> seems either updates to OSS have dismantled various programs ability to play sound through alsa
[11:04] <AngryElf> _absolution_, as long as it's the same architecture it should be fine
[11:04] <Gentoon> Nayone help please?
[11:04] <martin__> I would prefare to remove oss
[11:04] <h3sp4wn> AngryElf: You set it up with aticonfig --inital ?
[11:04] <AngryElf> h3sp4wn, i did
[11:04] <AngryElf> Found fglrx primary device section
[11:04] <AngryElf> Nothing to do, terminating.
[11:05] <bnemo> I haven't run any updates on the machine yet
[11:05] <AngryElf> aticonfig --initial ^^
[11:05] <h3sp4wn> AngryElf: dpkg-divert --list | grep fglrx
[11:05] <bnemo> ...so is there an existing auto-detect sequence/system or is there a manual command that needs to be issued to detect new hardware?
[11:05] <SurfnKid> mmm still cant get it
[11:05] <h3sp4wn> AngryElf: What card are you using ?
[11:06] <michaeljb2006> Hey there people I'm having a problem with evolution.  When I send mail (html format) to people with a signature picture imported the picture shows up on the receivers end as a little square with an X or some derivative of that depending on the receivers e-mail client.  Is this suppose to happen?  I'm using jpeg as the format for the image file.
[11:06] <mc_> !dosbox
[11:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about dosbox
[11:06] <AngryElf> h3sp4wn, radeon 9600
[11:06] <polpak> !info dosbox
[11:06] <mc_> !dosemu
[11:06] <ubotu> dosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA graphics, sound and DOS. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.63-2.1 (dapper), package size 371 kB, installed size 1028 kB
[11:06] <ketethatooblack> wow. i think this is the most confuisng thing i've ever did.
[11:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about dosemu
[11:06] <pinkman> Alright, I got it from a mirror "wget http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/1135D466.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -" not 100% sure if it worked though, but the embedded web players still arnt showing video.
[11:06] <AngryElf> h3sp4wn, msg or pastebin?
[11:06] <h3sp4wn> AngryElf: pastebin if its more than a few lines
[11:06] <recon0> I'm sorta confused. wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades says that I should use upgrade manager to update to Dapper. So I just run Update Manager? That's it?
[11:06] <mc_> polpak, thank ya
[11:07] <ketethatooblack> i feel like i've left my mommy (windows) and stepped into the wild (ubuntu breezy) where i can survive and i have people to help me but its just not going through.
[11:07] <gnomefreak> recon0: are you on breezy?
[11:07] <recon0> yep.
[11:07] <bnemo> "happiness" is trying to debug an ubuntu sound card issue on the 5th day of not having had a cigarette...
[11:07] <gnomefreak> recon0: gksudo update-manager
[11:07] <SurfnKid> !blacklist
[11:07] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list
[11:07] <polpak> ketethatooblack, well when you consider how many years you've been using windows.. of course it will be more familiar
[11:07] <gnomefreak> wait
[11:07] <recon0> I'll take that as a 'yes'.
[11:07] <gnomefreak> damn
[11:07] <AngryElf> h3sp4wn, http://pastebin.ca/84359
[11:07] <gnomefreak> recon0: gksudo "update-manager"
[11:08] <swim> can i get transparency running metacity+xgl?
[11:08] <crogue5> ketethatooblack, try dapper also, might help with newer stuff
[11:08] <polpak> ketethatooblack, if you can explain what you are doing or trying to do, and what errors if any you are getting we can try to help
[11:08] <ketethatooblack> polpak - true. 10 years versus 2 days
[11:08] <ketethatooblack> ok polpak i'll explain everything in my next message
[11:08] <polpak> ketethatooblack, also you should probably upgrade, since breezy is a little out of date
[11:08] <h3sp4wn> AngryElf: Are you using the ones from the repos or the new ones ?
[11:08] <ketethatooblack> breezy is out of date?
[11:08] <polpak> ketethatooblack, yep
[11:08] <gnomefreak> swim: ask xgl qustions in #ubuntu-xgl please
[11:08] <mc_> !info dosbox
[11:08] <ubotu> dosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA graphics, sound and DOS. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.63-2.1 (dapper), package size 371 kB, installed size 1028 kB
[11:08] <ketethatooblack> polpak; how can i upgrade to dapper
[11:08] <malachi> polpak: Thanks...new problem.....configure: error: header file <openssl/ssl.h> is required for OpenSSL
[11:09] <RustyJames> is there somone else who has a problem that ubuntu freezes randomly? i mean REALLY freezes no ctrl-alt-backspace or anything ...
[11:09] <mc_> strange i cant install dosbox
[11:09] <hivemind> !laptop
[11:09] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[11:09] <mc_> universe is enabled of course
[11:09] <crogue5> ketethatooblack, download the new CD and install would be best for you
[11:09] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: dapper is latest stable ubuntu release
[11:09] <polpak> ketethatooblack,  you can just DL the ISO and go from there
[11:09] <martin__> bnemo: are you having sound card issues too?
[11:09] <Gentoon> Can Anyone please help me fresh install of dapper and something is making my syatem lag every few minutes???\
[11:09] <ketethatooblack> i dont have a cd burner
[11:09] <h3sp4wn> AngryElf: The ones downloaded from ati.com or the ones in the repos ?
[11:09] <AngryElf> h3sp4wn, i presume they're from the repos'
[11:09] <bnemo> martin_ roger that
[11:09] <ketethatooblack> polpak: do you have a webpage? iso?
[11:09] <polpak> ketethatooblack, or you can try using the update manager, but if you don't have everything already the way you want it in breezy it may be easier to just install the iso
[11:10] <Gentoon> please
[11:10] <Gentoon> system
[11:10] <martin__> bnemo: oss or alsa problems and recently as of saturdays updates?
[11:10] <AngryElf> h3sp4wn, i followed the current wiki
[11:10] <Gentoon> X problem maybe?
[11:10] <polpak> ketethatooblack, http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[11:10] <homeskool> Hey all, I have a stupid question
[11:10] <ketethatooblack> polpak: i have everything the way i want it so should i got to system > administratoni > synaptic?
[11:10] <ketethatooblack> polpak: ok
[11:10] <bnemo> martin__: issue is with a cfreative labs ISA card...just installed this onto a dell optiplex gx1.  I've got a similar machine at home that has no problems....don't why this one is...
[11:10] <homeskool> I have a PPC ubuntu cd. How do I boot into live mode with my ibook g4?
[11:11] <FlyingSquirrel32> I'm setting up a server that uses Apache2, PHP and MYSQL. What do I have to install to get PHP to work with SQL?
[11:11] <polpak> malachi, try libssl-dev
[11:11] <slowz3r> Anyone have any ideas why my ubuntu wont boot from CD??
[11:11] <benkong2> I got a fresh install of ubuntu/kubuntu and this is an error message on nm-applet http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17710
[11:11] <malachi> polpak: Sweet! Thanks. Running make now.
[11:11] <ketethatooblack> polpak: there are three untied states
[11:11] <_absolution_> can I install Gentoo on my ubuntu machine without any problems?
[11:11] <polpak> ketethatooblack, any one is fine
[11:12] <homeskool> i thought all the states were tied... :P
[11:12] <gatekeeper> FlyingSquirrel32: look for php etc here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[11:12] <erUSUL> FlyingSquirrel32: php-pear (php-db) i guess
[11:12] <Gentoon> Anyone know the command to reconfig X server in dapper?
[11:12] <bnemo> hmmm....maybe just trying a reinstall will fix all this :(.....sigh...
[11:12] <ardchoille> _absolution_: I don't see why not, it would be a dual-boot setup.. I have 4 distros on one machine :)
[11:12] <sloucher> slowz3r: check the boot order in the bios
[11:12] <ketethatooblack> polpak: desktop cd? sever install cd? whcih one should i choose
[11:12] <gnomefreak> Gentoon: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:12] <chimpsky_> join mp3
[11:12] <slowz3r> sloucher: it is set to boot from CD
[11:12] <Seveas> ketethatooblack, desktop
[11:12] <jbxyo> uh
[11:12] <homeskool> Any ideas on how to boot Ubuntu live on an iBook G4?
[11:12] <polpak> FlyingSquirrel32, sudo apt-get install php4-mysql
[11:13] <sloucher> slowz3r: you get any errors? What happens?
[11:13] <slowz3r> sloucher: it just goes through the boot order like there is no CD
[11:13] <ketethatooblack> seveas: thank you
[11:13] <homeskool> Doesn't work to just put in CD and reboot, Open Firmware didn't like the command "boot cdrom". how do i boot ubuntu live on ibook g4?
[11:13] <gatekeeper> Gentoon: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:13] <h3sp4wn> AngryElf: Try the ones from ati.com you can generate packages for dapper (and before I got rid of my fglrx they seemed to be working alot better than the previous ones)
[11:13] <ketethatooblack> PC (Intel x86) desktop CD ?
[11:13] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: whats the date on the desktop cd download?
[11:13] <Seveas> ketethatooblack, if you have a standard pc: yes
[11:13] <polpak> ketethatooblack, you have an AMD or Intel ?
[11:13] <ketethatooblack> gnomefreak: huh?
[11:14] <ketethatooblack> polpak: intel
[11:14] <FlyingSquirrel32> polpak: I got that one already.
[11:14] <Seveas> Lobster, english please
[11:14] <ketethatooblack> seveas; ok
[11:14] <gnomefreak> Seveas: june 1st desktop cds are not reliable
[11:14] <sloucher> slowz3r: you sure the cd is ok? how did you make it? When you explore the cd are all the files there?
[11:14] <Lobster> sorry
[11:14] <polpak> gnomefreak, really? in what way?
[11:14] <compengi> how to install ssh server package on my system
[11:14] <Seveas> gnomefreak, those are the ones sent out 
[11:14] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: Really? And I just got my CD's too :(
[11:14] <gnomefreak> Seveas: my point
[11:14] <ketethatooblack> polpak: its going to open in up with file-roller
[11:15] <slowz3r> sloucher: if u by how did u make it u mean what did i use to burn it..i used Nero...and yes all the files are there
[11:15] <erUSUL> compengi: System>Admin>synaptic
[11:15] <gnomefreak> Seveas: they are the ones with all those damn bugs
[11:15] <ketethatooblack> not reliable?
[11:15] <nvez> Damnit.
[11:15] <homeskool> help with booting ubuntu live on ibook g4, plz?
[11:15] <ketethatooblack> so i shouldnt do it
[11:15] <erUSUL> compengi: look for openssh and install it
[11:15] <nvez> my apache crashed and now my port 80 is stuck floating in the air, suggestions?
[11:15] <nvez> Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to addres
[11:15] <erUSUL> !synaptic
[11:15] <Seveas> ketethatooblack, they are reliable.
[11:15] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[11:15] <AngryElf> homeskool, put CD in, reboot, hold C
[11:15] <erUSUL> !synaptic > compengi
[11:15] <polpak> ketethatooblack, you are getting the .iso file yes?
[11:16] <edubruell> hello I  installed Ubuntu 6.06
[11:16] <polpak> ketethatooblack, then choose to save it to the disk
[11:16] <homeskool> thank you, angryelf, i'll give that a try
[11:16] <phaedrus44> how do i add conky to startup?...i use fluxbox
[11:16] <edubruell> and evrything except sound seems to work
[11:16] <ketethatooblack> polpak: i haveno clue
[11:16] <edubruell> i have a ad1986a onboard soundcard
[11:16] <ciocanel> What's the easiest way to install gaim2?
[11:16] <sloucher> slowz3r: i'm out of ideas - do other cd's boot, like windows?
[11:16] <polpak> ketethatooblack, what is the url on the link it's going to download?
[11:16] <slowz3r> sloucher: ?
[11:16] <sztanpet> phaedrus44 fluxbox has its own start-fluxbox file imo, try there
[11:16] <compengi> erUSUL, they seem to be installed
[11:16] <edubruell> and did search in the forums for solutions for my problems
[11:16] <LjL> !alsa
[11:16] <ketethatooblack> polpak: ok im going to go back to that first page you showed me and make sure i choose the right now
[11:16] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:16] <compengi> erUSUL, how do i access it
[11:17] <ketethatooblack> polpak: http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[11:17] <slowz3r> sloucher: i put in my Xp pro CD and it booted fine
[11:17] <h3sp4wn> ciocanel: Take it from deb-src debian experimental is what i did
[11:17] <ciocanel> h3sp4wn, tanks.
[11:17] <Gentoon> Hello
[11:17] <Gentoon> apt-config ???????
[11:17] <Gentoon> Anyone here?
[11:17] <_absolution_> hey can anyone give me links where I can download games?
[11:17] <edubruell> alsa "works" on my box
[11:17] <erUSUL> compengi: how acces it? if they are instaled you have it running in bg and have the client ssh in a terminal
[11:17] <sloucher> slowz3r: then were back to the cd - which one did you use?
[11:17] <polpak> ketethatooblack, that's fine.. then just click on the PC Desktop link
[11:17] <gatekeeper> Gentoon: what are you trying to do?
[11:17] <Seveas> _absolution_, applications  add applications
[11:18] <edubruell> but evrytime i play a sound there is a high pitched noise in the background
[11:18] <slowz3r> sloucher: ubuntu server
[11:18] <slowz3r> sloucher: ive tried all 3
[11:18] <h3sp4wn> ciocanel: Make sure you only add the deb-src for debian experimental not the deb - if you don't understand what I am saying don't try
[11:18] <edubruell> the alsamixer won't work like it should
[11:18] <ketethatooblack> polpak: ok. where do i save it too?
[11:18] <erUSUL> !ssh > compengi
[11:18] <polpak> ketethatooblack, Desktop CD  section the PC (Intel x86) link and it should download an iso file
[11:18] <ketethatooblack> polpak: i dont think i have a black cd
[11:18] <polpak> ketethatooblack, anywhere in your home directory
[11:18] <ciocanel> h3sp4wn, I understand, thanks a lot.
[11:18] <edubruell> seems to be quite a standart problem with my snd card
[11:18] <polpak> ketethatooblack, you can burn it after it downloads
[11:19] <polpak> ketethatooblack, but you need a blank cd
[11:19] <sloucher> slowz3r: wow, you've done alot of work already
[11:19] <Jazon> hi everyone :)
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> ciocanel: cool
[11:19] <ketethatooblack> polpak: i don thave a cd burner
[11:19] <gatekeeper> edubruell: define won't work like it should, can't turn sound up / down ?
[11:19] <polpak> ketethatooblack, oh
[11:19] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: are you on breezy?
[11:19] <Jazon> well, i got talked into trying out dappy (from kanotix)
[11:19] <polpak> ketethatooblack, then downloading it won't do you much good ;p
[11:19] <ketethatooblack> gnomefreak: yes
[11:19] <polpak> ketethatooblack, you should use the update-manager then
[11:19] <ketethatooblack> polpak: ok i deleted it
[11:19] <edubruell> sound crashes totaly after you change something in alsamixer
[11:19] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: in terminal type gksudo "update-manager"
[11:19] <ketethatooblack> polpak: where do i go for that again
[11:19] <ketethatooblack> ok
[11:19] <Jazon> wondering what kind of luck im gonna have 'out of the box' with this configuration....
[11:19] <sloucher> slowz3r: so you see autorun.inf on the cd?
[11:20] <compengi> erUSUL, they say nothing about how to install it
[11:20] <polpak> Jazon, you should check out the Desktop Guide
[11:20] <sloucher> slowz3r: try the desktop ubuntu with windows?
[11:20] <ketethatooblack> polpak:i went in my password and it brught the softwar update window up
[11:20] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: that should give you a bunch of updates like mbs worth
[11:20] <ketethatooblack> gnomrefreak: there are none
[11:20] <polpak> Jazon, most things will just work of course
[11:20] <edubruell> before you change anything in alsa mixer sound just is noisy and has that highpitched noise in the background
[11:20] <erUSUL> compengi: you said they were already isntaled
[11:21] <Jazon> specifically worried about the madwifi-ng (atheros ar5005g mini pci in my lappy)
[11:21] <FlyingSquirrel32> Ugh! This isn't working... What is the simplist way to test database access from php? (I don't know PHP)
[11:21] <ketethatooblack> gnomefreak: i updated all 159 updates yesterday
[11:21] <slowz3r> sloucher: i only see the autorun.inf on the desktop CD
[11:21] <polpak> Jazon, but a few things have to be tweaked for licensing, etc
[11:21] <polpak> !wifi
[11:21] <ubotu> wifi is Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[11:21] <Jazon> Host/Kernel/OS  "laptop.arkygeek.com" running Linux 2.6.16.16-kanotix-1 i686 [ KANOTIX 2006 Easter  ] 
[11:21] <Jazon> CPU Info        Intel Celeron M 1024 KB cache flags( nx ) clocked at [ 1396.840 MHz ] 
[11:21] <Jazon> Videocard       Intel Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller  X.Org 7.0.0  [ 1024x768 @60hz ] 
[11:21] <Jazon> Network cards   Atheros AR5005G 802.11abg NIC
[11:21] <Jazon>                 Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+, at port: 6000
[11:21] <Jazon> Processes 107 | Uptime 2days | Memory 1232.23/1255.12MB | HDD HTS424040M9AT00,Maxtor 6 Y160P0 Size 200GB (91%used) | Client Konversation 0.19 | Infobash v2.50rc12
[11:21] <polpak> !paste
[11:21] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: what does uname -r tell you?
[11:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:21] <stefg> !flood
[11:21] <compengi> erUSUL, i mean how to work with it
[11:21] <sloucher> slowz3r: can you run it from windows?
[11:21] <edubruell> oh and alsamixer does not find mixer channels
[11:21] <edubruell> could that be a dmix problem
[11:21] <gnomefreak> Jazon: no pasting in the channel use pastebin
[11:21] <erUSUL> compengi: what do you want to do? access your machine remotely? access other machines?
[11:22] <ketethatooblack> gnorefreak: 2.6.12-10-386
[11:22] <slowz3r> sloucher: let me pop it in real quick
[11:22] <gatekeeper> edubruell: anything from the pakage manager to suggest it has installed the correct driver?
[11:22] <Jazon> gnomefreak: that wasnt a paste - sorry, its allowed in kanotix
[11:22] <compengi> erUSUL, i want to give shell accounts to others
[11:22] <IcemanV9> did any1 have success to modify trip_points on hp laptop?? i CANNOT modify it for whatever reason (permission denied) even when i used "sudo". :/
[11:22] <edubruell> well snd_hda_intel should be the correct driver
[11:22] <TestXChat> could someone help me with a boxbackup problem?
[11:22] <ketethatooblack> gnomrefreak: 2.6.12-10-386
[11:22] <gnomefreak> Jazon: that was a paste but either way should read /topic it tells you there
[11:23] <sn00p> what are the codes for windows in ubuntu?
[11:23] <gnomefreak> letok let me find this command for you
[11:23] <Gentoon> How can I restart my sound server?
[11:23] <polpak> Jazon, at anyrate
[11:23] <polpak> Jazon, https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[11:23] <stefg> !codecs > snnop
[11:23] <stefg> !codecs > snoop
[11:23] <erUSUL> compengi: System>Admin>Users. Create accounts for them. once it is done they should be able to acces them with an ssh client
[11:23] <polpak> Jazon, it's a very helpful guide.. though there are a few typos/bad urls
[11:23] <sn00p> stefg, didn't get it
[11:23] <dribble> i am so.freeking.tired of rhythmbox crashing into an unkillable state
[11:23] <dribble> ugh
[11:23] <stefg> !codecs > sn00p
[11:24] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: if you run this command it will upgrade you soon ;)
[11:24] <StarkMjolk> eavning
[11:24] <polpak> erUSUL, you also need to install the openssh-server
[11:24] <compengi> erUSUL, then why do i need openssh-server
[11:24] <slowz3r> sloucher: oops acidently closed IRC
[11:24] <ketethatooblack> gnomrefreak: yay ok thanks
[11:24] <erUSUL> compengi: given that you do not run a firewall blocking the ssh port
[11:24] <Jazon> gnomefreak: actually it is a script called infobash. it wasnt a paste.  anyway, i will read the url... thx for that
[11:24] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: sudo sed -e 's/breezy/dapper/g' </etc/apt/sources.list
[11:25] <gnomefreak> wonders why the < is there :(
[11:25] <sloucher> Gentool: the sound demon is esd - so kill "PID for esd" then type esd to start it up
[11:25] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: let me know what that does
[11:25] <SurfnKid> ayone know how to add the wlan0 alias instead of eth1
[11:25] <Ries> does on ubuntu 6 server XFS comes compiled in the kernel and/or modules? I just did setup RAID1 with LVM and XFS fs... but boot did fail...
[11:25] <edubruell> well prhaps there is a possible solution for my problem
[11:25] <polpak> compengi, you need the server to listen for the incoming connections, and you need the users to authenticate
[11:25] <Commander-Crowe> IS there a program that I can use to mount ISo files
[11:25] <erUSUL> compengi: that is the server that will allow others to acces your machine
[11:25] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: keys too close together?
[11:25] <ardchoille> lol
[11:25] <edubruell> but i would need a newer kernell and a new testing version of alsa
[11:25] <ketethatooblack> gnomefreak: no < ?
[11:25] <StarkMjolk> I just got a rather strange issue just, after some hardware tuning and a few craches, when I login I get a prompt that says: "I have no name!@platypus:~"
[11:25] <compengi> erUSUL, and how do i limit the number of processes?
[11:25] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: im thinking leave that out
[11:25] <tpgterror> Essencee: hey are u there?
[11:26] <polpak> compengi, number of processes per user?
[11:26] <compengi> polpak, yes
[11:26] <edubruell> wich version of alsa does 2.6.17 use
[11:26] <ketethatooblack> gnomrefreak: it worked showed alot of crap and then went to the next line
[11:26] <erUSUL> compengi: i do not know. never tried to set up a shell account server. look in google
[11:26] <stefg> Ries: XFS is done as a module... i guess you'll have to build a custom initrd to make it work
[11:26] <edubruell> 10.11rc-4 or higher
[11:26] <dewsky> dows anyone know a good flash editor for ubuntu?
[11:26] <Commander-Crowe> anyone?
[11:26] <ketethatooblack> gnoremfreak: you migh tjust kill me. im looking at the update manager
[11:26] <nvez> hey, how can i make a program run in someones username?
[11:26] <ketethatooblack> and at the top it says upgrade 6.06 LTS
[11:26] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: ok now run cat /etc/apt/sources.lsit
[11:27] <polpak> compengi, you can use the ulimit command
[11:27] <gnomefreak> fix the .list though
[11:27] <compengi> polpak, i need to limit it
[11:27] <StarkMjolk> Commander-Crowe: I believe your ordinary mount -t iso9660 ought to do?
[11:27] <slowz3r> sloucher: ya it lauches the little browser
[11:27] <Jazon> StarkMjolk: you are right
[11:27] <ketethatooblack> ok it showed alot more crap then waiting for me to type
[11:27] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: they should say dapper on those outputed lines
[11:27] <Ries> stefg: Ok..... I will boot using ext3 then... no problem
[11:27] <Commander-Crowe> StarkMjolk: howdo I do that?
[11:27] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: look for dapper or breezy what one do you see
[11:27] <SurfnKid> nvez, set it at the login window preferences under security
[11:27] <slowz3r> sloucher: but when i tried to boot it wouldnt work
[11:28] <sloucher> slowz3r: you want to install that way? Not sure why it won't boot.
[11:28] <StarkMjolk> Commander-Crowe:  sudo mount -t iso9660 <filename>.iso <mountpoint>
[11:28] <ketethatooblack> gnomefreak: it says breezy
[11:28] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[11:28] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: ok hit ctrl+c
[11:28] <sloucher> slowz3r: change the bios to only boot from cd?
[11:28] <Commander-Crowe> now what is the mount point supposed to be?
[11:29] <StarkMjolk> Commander-Crowe: a directory where you want your iso to be mounted
[11:29] <AngryElf> h3sp4wn, supposidly the ati drivers are installed, same situation :(
[11:29] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:29] <AngryElf> h3sp4wn, fglrx doesn't appear anywhere in Xorg.0.log, yet no errors either
[11:29] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: when it opens change all the breezys to dapper than click save
[11:29] <Commander-Crowe> do I just pic one like /home/commander?
[11:29] <tom1502> can anyon tell me what ubuntu uses for S3/S4, swsusp or suspend2, and where i can enable a higher log-level?
[11:29] <ketethatooblack> gnome ok
[11:30] <StarkMjolk> Commander-Crowe: take an empty directory, you can use something under your home or under /mnt perhaps
[11:30] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: after you save let me know
[11:30] <ketethatooblack> gnome: at the top it says Breezy Badger
[11:30] <ketethatooblack> do you want me to chagne it to
[11:30] <ketethatooblack> Dapper Drake
[11:30] <dribble> grr to rhythmbox
[11:30] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[11:30] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: doe sit say cdrom?
[11:30] <ketethatooblack> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[11:30] <gnomefreak> does it say cdrom?
[11:30] <ketethatooblack> gnome: soryr you said no pasting. but ya it says cdrom
[11:30] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: delete it
[11:30] <StarkMjolk> about my issue if anyone knows, whoami returns: "whoami: cannot find name for user ID 1000"
[11:30] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: one lin eis fine
[11:30] <compengi> erUSUL, so what should i search for?
[11:30] <StarkMjolk> where would the usernames be stored other than in /etc/passwd?
[11:30] <ketethatooblack> gnome: ok delete that whole line?
[11:30] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: yes
[11:31] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: all the other lines that start with deb please take the # away from them (if there is a # infront of them)
[11:31] <erUSUL> compengi: "limiting number of proceses per user linux" should be a good phrase to try
[11:32] <ketethatooblack> gnome: i saved it
[11:32] <recon0> Is there any way that I can confirm I have sucessfully updated to Dapper?
[11:32] <tom1502> nobody knows?
[11:32] <ketethatooblack> gnome: ok
[11:32] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: did you change all the breezy to dappers?:
[11:32] <sloucher> StarkMjolk: you can play with the GUI System - Administration - Users and Groups. /etc/passwd is maybe the only place that usersnames are listed?
[11:32] <erUSUL> compengi: or "setting up a shell account server linux"
[11:32] <BLoodcky> o can't play mp3... what to do?
[11:32] <ketethatooblack> gnome: yes now im working on deleting the #
[11:32] <gnomefreak> ok
[11:32] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: than save it
[11:32] <Warbo> !tell BLoodcky about mp3
[11:32] <ketethatooblack> bloodcky: thats a hard question. i spent years on it. and still im not done.
[11:32] <stefg> !restricted > BLoodcky
[11:33] <StarkMjolk> sloucher: that's what I thought, but when I login, I get that "I have no name!" prompt, and all seems good in /etc/passwd and the gnome GUI users-admin
[11:33] <funkja> Which audio player does everyone use?
[11:33] <ketethatooblack> gnome: done
[11:33] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: save when done and type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:33] <niklas_e> is there any way to set a password or do something so you can use the cups webinterface?
[11:33] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: and answer the questions and go there are a ton of updates btw
[11:33] <slowz3r> sloucher: i tried but it just acts like there is not a CD
[11:33] <BLoodcky> ahahah
[11:33] <BLoodcky> cool
[11:33] <StarkMjolk> and oh, in the title bar, it says starkmjolk@platypus, only the prompt that misses my name atm
[11:33] <BLoodcky> tnx
[11:33] <andy-> Anyone know how to get all this infromation to display? See screenshot: http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2733&cat=500&ppuser=19
[11:33] <atrophic> funkja, amarok
[11:33] <ketethatooblack> gnome: it says invalid opperation
[11:34] <ketethatooblack> bloodycky: hehe if you find a good way tell me.
[11:34] <Warbo> funkja: Amarok, Listen, Totem and XMMS
[11:34] <RustyJames> is there somone else who has a problem that ubuntu freezes randomly? i mean REALLY freezes no ctrl-alt-backspace or anything ...
[11:34] <stefg> !info gkrellm
[11:34] <ubotu> gkrellm: multiple stacked system monitors: 1 process [client] . In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.2.7-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 388 kB, installed size 948 kB
[11:34] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: sudo apt-get update
[11:34] <sloucher> StarkMjolk: why don't you paste the /etc/passwd - the one line with your username
[11:34] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: does that work?
[11:34] <StarkMjolk> starkmjolk:x:1000:1000:Gummibtshandlare:/home/starkmjolk:/bin/bash
[11:34] <stefg> andy-:  watch ubotu's info
[11:34] <ketethatooblack> nope it says invalid operation
[11:35] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: paste your sources.list file to pastebin please
[11:35] <recon0> Is there any way that I can confirm I have sucessfully upgraded to Dapper?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[11:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:35] <gnomefreak> ^^^ link for ya
[11:35] <gnomefreak> brb
[11:35] <slowz3r> sloucher: so now im cluless
[11:35] <Gentoon> SOMEONE please help, system is lagging every couple minds and can onlr run one resolution?
[11:35] <Gentoon> ?how can I reconfig X
[11:35] <polpak> compengi, http://gentoo-wiki.com/SECURITY_Limit_User_Processes
[11:35] <ketethatooblack> gnome: send it to you?
[11:36] <ketethatooblack> put gnomefreak as the name right?
[11:36] <sloucher> slowz3r: I'm out of ideas? I think I would try burning another cd again? Burning CD's seem to go wrong alot.
[11:36] <Warbo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg < Gentoon
[11:36] <h3sp4wn> AngryElf: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[11:36] <technomancy> wow, so did they take VCD support out of dapper or something?
[11:36] <slowz3r> ive gone through a spindal of 25 tryin to get it to work
[11:36] <slowz3r> sloucher: ive burned aabout 25 times
[11:36] <polpak> slowz3r, have you tried other bootable CD's?
[11:37] <h3sp4wn> AngryElf: It may be a good idea to backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf (move it somewhere else) then try aticonfig --initial again
[11:37] <Warbo> technomancy: VCDs use MPEG (and SVCDs use MPEG2), so they can't support it out of the box
[11:37] <slowz3r> polpak: i popped in Xp pro and it was fine
[11:37] <technomancy> Warbo: breezy did just fine
[11:37] <Warbo> technomancy: Out of the box?
[11:37] <StarkMjolk> sloucher: just checked another user on this machine aswell, all but root get "I have no name!"
[11:37] <sloucher> slowz3r: lol - I don't know. What brand cd. I hear people complaining about memorex?
[11:37] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: if you want
[11:37] <technomancy> Warbo: my bad; you had to install vlc
[11:37] <technomancy> Warbo: but with dapper even installing VLC doesn't do it
[11:37] <ketethatooblack> gnomefreak: ok i posted it with a screenshot
[11:37] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: after you click send give me the new address
[11:38] <slowz3r> sloucher: i dont member i dont have em anymore...they went in the garbage
[11:38] <polpak> slowz3r, only thing I can think is there's something wrong w/ how you are burning them
[11:38] <Jerr> ok, so I was reading this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-16578.html and am wondering if anyone else has mod perl running better?
[11:38] <polpak> slowz3r, I'd say just to order a CD via shipit
[11:38] <ketethatooblack> gnome: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i17712
[11:38] <ketethatooblack> gnome: see it?
[11:38] <asdfasdf> has anyone been able to install gnucash2.0.0?
[11:38] <ketethatooblack> its the small window
[11:39] <slowz3r> polpak: i dunno how it would go wrong im using nero and in nero their is a burn iso option..and i did order from shipit but i dont wanna wait like a month
[11:39] <polpak> ketethatooblack, ehh you spelled update wrong
[11:39] <ketethatooblack> seriously?
[11:39] <ketethatooblack> HAHAH
[11:39] <ketethatooblack> omg
[11:39] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: you spelled update wrong
[11:39] <ketethatooblack> hahaha im so sorry
[11:39] <ardchoille> ketethatooblack: update.. not udpate
[11:39] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:39] <asdfasdf> has anyone been able to install gnucash2.0.0
[11:39] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: sudo apt-get update
[11:39] <ardchoille> ketethatooblack: I've made that error tons of times
[11:39] <sloucher> StarkMjolk - what does root get? and you have root? Did you make a root password?
[11:39] <ketethatooblack> gnomefreak: ok im one ittt
[11:39] <BLoodcky> ketethatooblack, do you know any e-book or web page where i can learn linux? i am bored of linux...
[11:39] <Ries> stefg: heaving my boot disk as ext3 did the trick.....
[11:39] <BLoodcky> of windows* :P
[11:39] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: is it working?
[11:39] <polpak> slowz3r, you can try another burning tool
[11:40] <StarkMjolk> sloucher: yah, did that a while back. root@platypus, no issue with that name
[11:40] <polpak> slowz3r, but I really have no idea at this point.
[11:40] <ketethatooblack> gnome: ok its doing alot of loading
[11:40] <ketethatooblack> gnome: yepp
[11:40] <slowz3r> polpak: thnaks
[11:40] <ketethatooblack> 90%
[11:40] <Warbo> Does anyone know why pyvnc2swf doesn't work in my Dapper system? It worked in a different Breezy system (not tried it in another Dapper)
[11:40] <h3sp4wn> BLoodcky: Linux (or UNIX) in a Nutshell is a good book if you can get it
[11:40] <compengi> polpak, can you help me with it
[11:40] <technomancy> ok, this is messed up big time. i get I/O errors even trying to copy the movie file from the VCD to the HD
[11:41] <technomancy> wtf
[11:41] <compengi> polpak, i accessed the file to edit but what should i do i don't know
[11:41] <ketethatooblack> bloodcky: haha dont ask me. these guys are the ones helping me. all i know is that mp3 stuff. WHEW hardstuff if you've come from windows
[11:41] <BLoodcky> Install the following packages to play most proprietary formats using Totem and Rhythmbox, which both come with Ubuntu.
[11:41] <BLoodcky> Since the version of Totem that comes with Ubuntu doesn't yet play DVDs, the list below also includes packages for the GXine player, which does.
[11:41] <BLoodcky> gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg... How to install this? I dont understand... I am new in linux :)
[11:41] <sloucher> StarkMjolk: did you ever get a name from whois? Did this just happen? Did you past that one line from /etc/passwd?
[11:41] <polpak> compengi, the instructions on that page are pretty clear if you read them
[11:41] <ketethatooblack> gnome: i got a notice saying new updates available
[11:41] <erUSUL> !mp3 > BLoodcky
[11:41] <sloucher> StarkMjolk: how about if you make a new user?
[11:41] <BLoodcky> !mp3
[11:41] <Warbo> BLoodcky: System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager
[11:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:42] <ketethatooblack> umm guysss
[11:42] <StarkMjolk> sloucher: It worked one hour ago, yes, it just happened, the line was directly from /etc/passwd
[11:42] <technomancy> anybody know why a mounted VCD would give I/O errors when the VCD works fine in any non-ubuntu system?
[11:42] <StarkMjolk> sloucher: I'll try that, one sec
[11:42] <BLoodcky> i still dont understand :)
[11:42] <erUSUL> !synaptic > BLoodcky
[11:42] <sysrpl> hello
[11:42] <sysrpl> has anyone had problems with apps and glibc *invalid pointer* causing crashes?
[11:42] <sysrpl> i think ubuntu's glibc is borked
[11:42] <ketethatooblack> the sudo apt-get update ended in unable to lock the adminstration libary is another process using it
[11:42] <sloucher> StarkMjolk: i missed the line can you paste again - you sure it looks ok?
[11:42] <polpak> sysrpl, nope
[11:42] <BLoodcky> !synaptic
[11:42] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[11:43] <polpak> ketethatooblack, do you have synaptic open?
[11:43] <airmikey> anyone here running sever cd
[11:43] <BLoodcky> nothing without bots :)
[11:43] <airmikey> server
[11:43] <StarkMjolk> sloucher: starkmjolk:x:1000:1000:Gummibtshandlare:/home/starkmjolk:/bin/bash
[11:43] <airmikey> it seems slow and jerky
[11:43] <polpak> airmikey, I'm running a breezy server install for mythtv
[11:43] <StarkMjolk> and yes, I think it looks good
[11:43] <sysrpl> polpak: do you know where the official ubuntu bug tracker is?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: close the file you have open
[11:43] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: Only one program can change packages at a time (to prevent conflicts). Close any update managers, synaptics, apt-gets, aptitudes, adepts or anything else which uses APT
[11:43] <ketethatooblack> bloodcky: sorry i didnt get your IM now im answering ot youu.
[11:43] <polpak> !bug
[11:43] <StarkMjolk> sloucher: got same problem with a new just created user
[11:43] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[11:43] <ketethatooblack> gnome: what file?
[11:43] <polpak> sysrpl, ^^
[11:43] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[11:43] <ketethatooblack> warbo: including my terminal?
[11:43] <ketethatooblack> okk
[11:43] <erUSUL> BLoodcky: well bots do not get tired of saying the same thing time and time again and again... ad infinitum
[11:43] <StarkMjolk> added the user with the adduser script btw, but that has always worked for me
[11:43] <erUSUL> ;)
[11:44] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: No, just only use one APT program at a time
[11:44] <_absolution_> hey all......I've got dvd::rip installed.......and it doesn't want to read my dvd's........do I need to install something??
[11:44] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: once closed run the update command again
[11:44] <ketethatooblack> warbo: ok.
[11:44] <technomancy> I/O errors for *any* VCD access... dapper must me mounting them incorrectly or something
[11:44] <rbman> _absolution_, your dvd drive a +?
[11:44] <Adam_G> okay, I'm in the grub shell and I want to install it to the master boot record
[11:44] <ketethatooblack> gnome: its analyzing my system
[11:44] <andy-> Yum: http://img438.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2wv.png =] 
[11:44] <Adam_G> how do I get it to do the MBR and not just one partition?
[11:44] <malachi> exit
[11:45] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: if it ends without errors sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:45] <malachi> >.< Wrong program
[11:45] <_absolution_> eh?
[11:45] <ketethatooblack> gnome: Cannot install all available updates
[11:45] <ketethatooblack> Some updates require the removal of further software. Use the function "Mark All Upgrades" of the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in a terminal to update your system completely.
[11:45] <airmikey> dapper seems slow and jerky
[11:45] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:45] <ketethatooblack> ok
[11:45] <nomin> yeah, I think breezy was better than dapper
[11:45] <StarkMjolk> sloucher: I've tried searching the net some for the issue, but everything is about the same issue, but with LDAP, kinda different :)
[11:45] <Warbo> OK, I am going to charge ahead in a stupid direction to fix my small pyvnc2swf problem. Expect me to return with problems about debootstrap and Breezy in a chroot....
[11:45] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: let me know what it says this time
[11:46] <erUSUL> technomancy: if you get io errors is faulty hardware (bad ide cables?) or a driver issue (the kernel) or maybe the disc is scratchy
[11:46] <niklas_e> if ubuntu doesn't find your all-in-1 printer-scanner-cardreader what can it be that is wrong?
[11:46] <ketethatooblack> didnt work
[11:46] <ketethatooblack> unable to lock adminsitration directory
[11:46] <unstablesob> installing ubuntu on my ibook, lets hope this goes well
[11:46] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: do you have any gui like synaptic or update-manager open?
[11:46] <airmikey> i had dapper cd on laptop ..ran smooth ..decided to try server cd ..seems slow and jery  anything i can do to make run better
[11:46] <ketethatooblack> gnome: i have software updates open
[11:47] <gnomefreak> close it
[11:47] <BLoodcky> bye ppl
[11:47] <ketethatooblack> gnome: it worked this time
[11:47] <sloucher> StarkMjolk: hey, try id -un
[11:47] <airmikey> well
[11:47] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: good
[11:47] <h3sp4wn> airmikey: What does uname -a say ?
[11:47] <ketethatooblack> 302MB will be used
[11:47] <ketethatooblack> yes or no?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: yes
[11:48] <sheik> apt keeps telling me connection to servers failed, even though I can connect to them using telnet. Any idea why?
[11:48] <ketethatooblack> ok its going. as it goes what are the perks of dapper?
[11:48] <StarkMjolk> sloucher: "id: cannot find name for user ID 1000" and then just "1000" on second row
[11:48] <airmikey> 2.6.15-25-server #1 smp
[11:48] <h3sp4wn> airmikey: You are using the server kernel which is not designed for desktop usage
[11:49] <sysrpl> if i installed a set of tools built from the source using "./configure --profile=/usr; make; sudo make install" ... how would i then later remove all these tools?
[11:49] <gnomefreak> ketethatooblack: newer packages
[11:49] <h3sp4wn> airmikey: sudo apt-get install llinux-686
[11:49] <h3sp4wn> airmikey: sudo apt-get install linux-686
[11:49] <StarkMjolk> sloucher:  this seem interesting, running just id returns "uid=1000 gid=1000(starkmjolk) ..." I'm just guessing here, shouldn't it say uid=1000(starkmjolk) too?
[11:49] <airmikey> ok thx
[11:49] <Gentoon> Can anyone please tell me the command to reconfigure the Xserver in dapper?
[11:49] <Gentoon> Please?
[11:49] <ketethatooblack> gnome: i see
[11:49] <Music^Hound> ketethatooblack: dapper + XGL = sweet looking desktop
[11:49] <erUSUL> airmikey: h3sp4wn is right in kernel kernel they probably disabled preemption
[11:49] <LjL> Gentoon: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:49] <ketethatooblack> music: hahah
[11:49] <iiibill> A cohort has just put dapper on an AMD64 here and I don't seem to be able to find libpam-ldap in the repositories.  Is there some special sources.list trick anyone knows of?
[11:50] <erUSUL> Gentoon: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:50] <ketethatooblack> one of the reasons i got linux was because of its cool look =] 
[11:50] <ketethatooblack> my sister did an engineering program and got a free disk
[11:50] <rbman> okay...I've now installed an ISA creative labs (soundblaster) soundcard from 1994...if the ubuntu setup doesn't detect THIS then I just don't know ;P
[11:50] <ctartamella> could someone help me with the graphical splash screen?
[11:50] <Warbo> Gentoon: I told you before: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:50] <chanakya> can somebody help in getting my aiglx running
[11:50] <ketethatooblack> that linux in a nutshell book will teach me everything i need to know?
[11:50] <chanakya> i don`t get /usr//bin/Xorg-air installed
[11:50] <chowells> rbman: ISA stuff is hard to get working, you often need to change jumpers or use a DOS based config utility
[11:50] <Music^Hound> chanakya: try #ubuntu-xgl
[11:50] <ketethatooblack> im going to go check it out at the library after im done with this
[11:50] <sloucher> StarkMjolk: yes it should give you uid=1000(starkmjolk)
[11:50] <Jerr> has anyone gotten success here making a LAMPerl
[11:51] <Sub> Jerr, you mean a LAMP server? yes.
[11:51] <StarkMjolk> sloucher: then we have an issue :) how would I possibly change that?
[11:51] <mc_> !xgl > chanakya
[11:51] <hivemind> If I could suggest something, don't get Linux for Dummies.
[11:51] <rbman> chowells, I ain't skeered o' no jumpers ;)
[11:51] <h3sp4wn> ketethatooblack: It will teach you how to use the command line to a point where you get some advantages from using linux
[11:51] <fufutos> I use xfce4 on dapper. When I open a new window the tasklist flashes until the new window gets focus. How do I disable the flashing ?
[11:51] <ketethatooblack> hivemind: not good?
[11:51] <sloucher> StarkMjolk: that's a stange problem - I'm out of ideas
[11:52] <hivemind> ketethatooblack: Nope, I learned more my googling and off IRC.
[11:52] <chowells> rbman: I think I fried an IDE controller in a 386 by getting the jumpers wrong (IIRC :)
[11:52] <hivemind> more by*
[11:52] <ketethatooblack> h3sp3wn: i seee. one of the reasons i got linux is so i coudl learn moree
[11:52] <ketethatooblack> hivemind: i see
[11:52] <ctartamella> my boot only has the text (on a framebuffer) how do i enable the graphical boot?
[11:52] <rbman> chowells, I still rememebr setting all the dip switches on my acoustic coupler modem back in like '84 or so
[11:52] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: Visit the Wiki. It tells you pretty much everything you could want
[11:52] <ketethatooblack> i learned with windows but having problems and haveing to fix them
[11:52] <Warbo> !wiki
[11:52] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[11:52] <chowells> rbman: haha. that was before my time :)
[11:52] <ketethatooblack> heres a joke for you all. air condition is just like a computer. its all good until you open windows
[11:52] <StarkMjolk> sloucher: hmm, strange indeed, I'll let you know if I find out anything more :)
[11:53] <rbman> ketethatooblack, that -was- good
[11:53] <ompaul> !offtopic
[11:53] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:53] <ketethatooblack> warbo: thank youu
[11:53] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: Are you saying you prefer a text-mode console? :)
[11:53] <sloucher> StarkMjold: yeah please do - that's interesting
[11:53] <ketethatooblack> rbman: hahaha. =] 
[11:53] <StarkMjolk> sloucher: I will, thanks for the help so far :)
[11:53] <ketethatooblack> warbo: you mean like just text?
[11:53] <ardchoille> lol
[11:53] <Maicol> Hi, I have a problem with internet. I have a wifi card (Intel IPN 2220) and instaled the drivers with ndiswrapper but internet with firefox or opera are very slow. Is normaly?
[11:53] <ketethatooblack> warbo: wait. i think i just comletely missed what you were saying
[11:54] <rbman> my first monitor was a line printer...
[11:54] <timothyzander> hello, does anyone else have a problem with archive.ubuntu.com right now?
[11:54] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: Repeat this to me: "To get into grahics, I will press ctrl-alt-f7"
[11:54] <Warbo> graphics
[11:54] <Seveas> timothyzander, no
[11:54] <ketethatooblack> to get into graphics i will press ctrl-alt-f7
[11:54] <iiibill> rbman: my first terminal was a card punch
[11:54] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: OK, now press ctrl-alt-f1
[11:54] <timothyzander> alright seveas, cause i cant even ping it
[11:54] <xpc> hi
[11:54] <xpc> !hu
[11:54] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[11:54] <Jerr> Sub: I mean Linux Apache MySQL and Perl (I already have PHP working)
[11:54] <ketethatooblack> warbo; hmm. ok haha. what is it going to do
[11:55] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: Go into a text-mode console
[11:55] <Sub> Jerr, yes a lamp server, why dont you jus use the "install LAMP server" option on the server install CD?
[11:55] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: (that is what it will do, not an instruction :) )
[11:55] <Sub> it makes it SO easy
[11:56] <tvalladon> can someone suggest a good linux alternative to MyBase for windows?
[11:56] <Warbo> All MyBase........
[11:56] <SonicChao> How do you change the terminal to make it a black background with white text?
[11:56] <Warbo> (sorry)
[11:56] <Seveas> tvalladon, openoffice base?
[11:56] <Warbo> SonicChao: Edit>Profiles
[11:56] <ctartamella> my boot only has the text (on a framebuffer) how do i enable the graphical boot?
[11:56] <Seveas> Warbo, rofl
[11:56] <unstablesob> is there a ppc specific channel?
[11:56] <Seveas> unstablesob, no
[11:57] <Jerr> Sub: I didn't do server install
[11:57] <sloucher> SonicChao: edit - current profile
[11:57] <Jerr> I had that server run without hdd for a while, so I was using livecd and installed it that way
[11:57] <iiibill> rbman:  Hmmm, tried to reply to you private message, but I guess I haven't registered so I can't do that.  Anyway I said " First was was an IBM 29 I think.  Standard 80 column cards.  We also used the square 90 column cards."  I'll go figure out registration now.
[11:57] <sztanpet> when i edit my /etc/security/limits.conf when does it take effect?
[11:57] <tvalladon> Seveas: no, already tried that, no where near the functionality, but thank you
[11:57] <SonicChao> Warbo and sloucher: thanks, that worked :)
[11:58] <Sub> Jerr, well itz normally just a case of "sudo apt-get install apache2 php4 php4-mysql mysql-server mysql-client mysqladmin" to do a real basic install.
[11:58] <StarkMjolk> sloucher: found it! /etc/passwd wasn't readable by all users, ran chmod +r on it, now I get my prompt again :))
[11:58] <harisund> What is the best way to go about with webmin? Or is there a better alternative that is equally or more powerful than webmin, and allows me to configure everything I want?
[11:58] <Jerr> I have all that
[11:58] <sloucher> starkMjolk: makes sense - what changed the permissions?
[11:58] <StarkMjolk> no clue whatsoever
[11:59] <Jerr> I just need mod_perl to recognize perl files, and was hoping there was an easier way than messing with configs
[11:59] <ketethatooblack> i dint want text only!
[11:59] <michaeljb2006> Hey there people I'm having a problem with evolution.  When I send mail (html format) to people with a signature picture imported the picture shows up on the receivers end as a little square with an X or some derivative of that depending on the receivers e-mail client.  Is this suppose to happen?  I'm using jpeg as the format for the image file.
[11:59] <ketethatooblack> ok
[11:59] <ketethatooblack> i am the stupidest
[11:59] <ketethatooblack> person alive
[11:59] <sloucher> starkMjolk: oh well, nice job
[11:59] <hayden> what packages do i need for a machine to be a client for xdmcp logins (minimal client install)?
[11:59] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: What did I tell you to repeat?
[11:59] <ketethatooblack> warbo: grr. i forgot about the how to get graphics back
[11:59] <ketethatooblack> I KNOW
[11:59] <nihilocrat> Jerr: uhm, well, there are various apps that will mess with configs for you
[11:59] <ketethatooblack> haha i ddint remember that
[11:59] <Warbo> ctrl-alt-f7
[11:59] <StarkMjolk> sloucher: there's not a problem google can't solve ;) and thanks for the help on the way
[12:00] <nihilocrat> Jerr: but it would be fairly easy to first check as to whether apache is configured to run pl files properly
[12:00] <michaeljb2006> google hasn't solved my problem yet
[12:00] <harisund> also, apart from my other question, anybody know of any good GUI tools for mySQL?
[12:00] <h3sp4wn> hayden: I would use freenx over xdmcp (never managed to get it working properly with dapper)
[12:00] <ketethatooblack> well
[12:00] <hayden> h3sp4wn, ok thanks ill take a look
[12:00] <ketethatooblack> i kind of closed out
[12:00] <ketethatooblack> of everything i did =[
[12:00] <ketethatooblack> i had to restart my cmoputer
[12:00] <h3sp4wn> harisund: mysql-admin
[12:00] <sloucher> harisund: lots. something link php mysql - just google
[12:00] <Warbo> ketethatooblack: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:00] <harisund> h3sp4wn have you got FreeNX to work properly? I could really use your help there..
[12:00] <Jerr> nihilocrat: I don't think apache is, because it tries to make me download the pl file
[12:00] <ketethatooblack> merci beacoup
[12:00] <k1piee> Hi