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jsgotangco | good morning | 01:49 |
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LaserJock | hi jsgotangco | 01:51 |
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LaserJock | hi sbalneav | 04:12 |
sbalneav | Hey there LaserJock!! | 04:13 |
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jsgotangco | hey | 04:23 |
sbalneav | hey jsgotangco | 04:24 |
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ryan__ | how can i configure samba in ubuntu | 07:01 |
jsgotangco | ryan__: there's a good howto in the help page | 07:03 |
jsgotangco | under the server guide | 07:03 |
jsgotangco | you can also check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba | 07:05 |
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Bot_Builder | Would edubuntu be a good choice for a sort of after school education project sort of thing for children who moved to the United states a year ago? | 08:05 |
Burgundavia | Bot_Builder: yep | 08:05 |
Bot_Builder | They've got computers, but they don't use them | 08:06 |
Burgundavia | can't speak very good english? | 08:06 |
Burgundavia | edubuntu can do many languages | 08:06 |
Bot_Builder | that might be good | 08:06 |
Bot_Builder | is it easy to switch between the languages? It'd be ideal if they could learn english as they do it | 08:06 |
Burgundavia | what sort of computers do you have? | 08:06 |
jsgotangco | its easy to swtich between languages | 08:07 |
Burgundavia | fairly easy | 08:07 |
jsgotangco | especially if its a largely spoken one | 08:07 |
Bot_Builder | I think they've got P3s (I'm not actually part of this organization, just helping out) | 08:07 |
jsgotangco | chances are translations are complete for most if not all applications | 08:07 |
Bot_Builder | I think they mostly speak somali | 08:08 |
Burgundavia | hmm, that is more of a challenge | 08:08 |
Burgundavia | however, you can get the community involved in the translation | 08:08 |
jsgotangco | hmmm | 08:08 |
Bot_Builder | I don't know the specs of the computers | 08:08 |
Burgundavia | somali uses latin script | 08:08 |
Burgundavia | get some of the older kids and the parents involved and you can translate most of edubuntu in not too long | 08:09 |
Bot_Builder | Yes, perhaps they could help out, but the main reason I'm involved is they need someone to install windows and such on their computers | 08:09 |
Burgundavia | also a great way to learn english and computers | 08:09 |
Bot_Builder | I'm thinking I'll install windows 2000 (they seem to think it'll work, so the computers can't be so bad) | 08:10 |
Bot_Builder | on some of them | 08:10 |
Bot_Builder | and edubuntu on others | 08:10 |
Bot_Builder | so they can learn the popular platform and benefit from edubuntu's software | 08:11 |
Burgundavia | you could do edubuntu on all, with rdesktop to a windows 200 machine | 08:11 |
Bot_Builder | yeah, but then there'd be only one 2000 machine :P | 08:11 |
Burgundavia | people don't actually need windows | 08:12 |
Bot_Builder | True | 08:12 |
Bot_Builder | but its so popular that if these kids learn it, it'll help with getting jobs, etc | 08:13 |
Burgundavia | the Big Lie in North America is that they do | 08:13 |
Burgundavia | I would call that part of the big lie | 08:13 |
Burgundavia | teach them computers and they will figure out windows | 08:13 |
Bot_Builder | Probably | 08:13 |
Bot_Builder | Especially if they have to mess with bash to do any configuration :P | 08:14 |
Bot_Builder | will really smarten em up | 08:15 |
jsgotangco | have you ever installed and edubuntu desktop | 08:15 |
Bot_Builder | nope | 08:16 |
Bot_Builder | i've got ubuntu though | 08:16 |
jsgotangco | ok how many times do you go to bash to do something simple | 08:16 |
jsgotangco | say create a worksheet? | 08:16 |
Bot_Builder | nah | 08:16 |
jsgotangco | exactly | 08:16 |
Bot_Builder | more like to get my dual screens working, configure fstab for new partitions | 08:17 |
Burgundavia | they are unlikely to be doing those things | 08:17 |
Bot_Builder | ok, so the dual screen thing is a bad example | 08:17 |
Bot_Builder | how about installing a program that's not a package | 08:17 |
Bot_Builder | you could try using nautilus, but uh-oh, no administrative rights | 08:18 |
Burgundavia | unlikely to be doing that | 08:18 |
Burgundavia | most people never need more than what they have, and for the rest, there is gai | 08:18 |
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Bot_Builder | so if you've got the knowhow pop open bash and sudo cp | 08:18 |
Burgundavia | you are not going to get everybody, but for now, new immigrants just need a computer that works | 08:18 |
Bot_Builder | yeah i know :P | 08:18 |
Burgundavia | they will accept limitations (which I don;t accept exist) just to have access | 08:19 |
Bot_Builder | ok, yeah it'll probably be no problem | 08:19 |
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jsgotangco | oh yeah | 08:19 |
Bot_Builder | haha | 08:19 |
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Bot_Builder | Thin client stuff sounds interesting | 08:20 |
Bot_Builder | too bad it seems like they've got a bunch of medium clients :P no fatty server, and no decent desktops | 08:20 |
Burgundavia | yep | 08:20 |
Burgundavia | then run xubuntu on them | 08:20 |
Bot_Builder | we'll see though, if they can run 2000, they can probably run buntu | 08:20 |
Burgundavia | should be able to | 08:21 |
Bot_Builder | what's the diff between xubuntu and edubuntu (other than xfce) | 08:21 |
Burgundavia | xubuntu is XFCE, edu is GNOME | 08:21 |
Bot_Builder | right, but you lose all those differences between ubuntu and edubuntu | 08:21 |
Burgundavia | not really | 08:21 |
Bot_Builder | well, maybe there's not that many | 08:21 |
Burgundavia | edubuntu is merely ubuntu+educational apps+ltsp | 08:22 |
jsgotangco | xfce and gnome both use gtk2 | 08:22 |
Bot_Builder | xfce says its lightweight though | 08:22 |
Burgundavia | it is | 08:22 |
Burgundavia | there is a spec for integrating xubuntu+edu for the next release | 08:23 |
Burgundavia | there are two issues here, of course: computers in a lab and computers that are going home | 08:24 |
Burgundavia | the former are easy, as you (or another volunteer) run them | 08:24 |
Burgundavia | the later are more difficult | 08:24 |
Burgundavia | the advantage of having them all the same is that you can do training on the lab and then send them home with the same type of computer | 08:24 |
Bot_Builder | ah, its lab | 08:24 |
Burgundavia | another great way to teach people computer skills to have them help recycle computers and then they get to take one home | 08:25 |
Bot_Builder | yeah | 08:25 |
Bot_Builder | Hmm, maybe I can make a xubuntu install with all the edu apps | 08:26 |
Burgundavia | in any case, I urge you to get involved in helping craft the next version of Edubuntu | 08:28 |
Burgundavia | you are the people that use it and can best tell us what you need and want | 08:29 |
Bot_Builder | Hmm maybe, I'm working on a game engine practically full time. Its not really practical to work on a bunch of projects at once | 08:30 |
Burgundavia | true | 08:30 |
Bot_Builder | And anyway, this is just a volunteer project | 08:30 |
Burgundavia | which game engine? | 08:30 |
Bot_Builder | my own :P | 08:30 |
Bot_Builder | Been working about 12 hours a day for 10 days | 08:31 |
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Bot_Builder | I'll keep it in mind though, if I keep in contact with this organization | 08:33 |
jsgotangco | ogra: hello | 08:33 |
Bot_Builder | website needs some love too - http://haeconline.org/ | 08:35 |
Bot_Builder | hmm, yeah, the website boasts of things that aren't happening - at least the computer side | 08:38 |
Burgundavia | Bot_Builder: http://www.oly-wa.us/freegeek/ | 08:39 |
Amaranth | willowng has an installer | 08:42 |
Amaranth | that i have never used but assume works :P | 08:43 |
Bot_Builder | Burgundavia: ooh, sweet | 08:43 |
Burgundavia | Amaranth: if you give me code I can test it | 08:43 |
Amaranth | bzr branch http://dev.realistanew.com/willowng | 08:43 |
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Bot_Builder | Oooh, I've got a computer i can try out my custom cd on | 08:47 |
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Bot_Builder | actually, a custom cd could be pretty damn hard | 08:54 |
Bot_Builder | We'll see how the computers run edubuntu before doing anything drastic | 08:55 |
Burgundavia | not necessarily | 08:56 |
spacey | Amaranth: willowng is your product? | 08:57 |
Amaranth | spacey: yeah | 08:57 |
spacey | ah, ok :) | 08:57 |
spacey | why installer? | 08:57 |
spacey | whats wrong with dpkg -i :P | 08:57 |
spacey | slash a normal package | 08:57 |
Amaranth | spacey: uh | 08:58 |
Amaranth | spacey: as upstream i need a build system/installer in order for you to make a package | 08:58 |
Bot_Builder | Burgundavia - well, adding the educational packages to xubuntu might take a bit of fiddling | 08:58 |
Burgundavia | Bot_Builder: you can use kickstart, if you want to avoid it | 08:58 |
Amaranth | i'm talking about things like 'make' and './setup.py install' | 08:58 |
spacey | Amaranth: ah ok;) | 08:59 |
Amaranth | spacey: it's a good thing to have :) | 08:59 |
spacey | ok =) | 08:59 |
Amaranth | it's not like an autopackage installer or loki or anything | 09:00 |
spacey | hehe, thats what i think about when you say installer (loki) | 09:00 |
spacey | some crazy wizard | 09:00 |
spacey | :D | 09:00 |
spacey | we had lots of willow problems on our proxy server since it was upgrade from hoary -> breezy | 09:01 |
spacey | so mad we decided to upgrade it to dapper and then all problems were gone | 09:01 |
spacey | so now were happy again with willow | 09:01 |
spacey | but such things are really nasty | 09:01 |
spacey | i hope your version will not inherit such features =) | 09:02 |
Amaranth | hehe, it's a rewrite | 09:02 |
Amaranth | without a web interface i've got about 500 lines of code and afaik it's fully working | 09:02 |
spacey | thats nice =) | 09:03 |
spacey | how much lines does willow have? | 09:03 |
Amaranth | far too many | 09:03 |
Amaranth | although it does seem to use headers and such to fine-tune the filtering | 09:04 |
Amaranth | but it basically implements a full HTTP client | 09:05 |
Amaranth | i just pass things back and forth from server to browser | 09:05 |
Amaranth | and hold on to the data to run the filter on to do checks | 09:06 |
spacey | ah | 09:06 |
Amaranth | sloccount in the unpacked willow dir says 3170 lines of code | 09:06 |
Amaranth | in willowng it says 564 | 09:07 |
spacey | :) | 09:07 |
Amaranth | Total Estimated Cost to Develop = $ 14,808 | 09:07 |
spacey | not implementing full http does save some code ofcourse:) | 09:07 |
spacey | much easier to maintain | 09:07 |
Amaranth | yeah | 09:07 |
Burgundavia | Amaranth: to be fair, do you include that reverend library? | 09:07 |
Amaranth | Burgundavia: yeah | 09:07 |
spacey | reverend lib? | 09:07 |
Amaranth | Burgundavia: i took the actual useful part of that library, made it use sqlite, and included it with willowng | 09:08 |
Burgundavia | ah, ok | 09:08 |
Amaranth | reverend is a python bayesian filter | 09:08 |
Amaranth | bayesian classifier, rather | 09:08 |
Amaranth | i'm $10,000 short so far :P | 09:09 |
Amaranth | hehe | 09:09 |
spacey | ah :) | 09:11 |
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Bot_Builder | I always thought that cost to develop thing was kind of funny | 09:23 |
Amaranth | Bot_Builder: it's surprisingly accurate | 09:34 |
Amaranth | Bot_Builder: but it assumes good code that has had quite a bit of bug fix time | 09:35 |
Amaranth | same for the time to develop | 09:35 |
Amaranth | for things like gtk+ it's pretty close to accurate | 09:35 |
Amaranth | for a project started last month it's going to be wrong | 09:35 |
Bot_Builder | ah, nowonder my money is so high | 10:01 |
Bot_Builder | it doesn't even compile yet :P | 10:01 |
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Bot_Builder | well, thanks for the info | 10:22 |
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cbx33 | ping ogra | 11:13 |
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cbx33 | ogra: /bin/pwd: couldn't find directory entry in `../../../..' with matching i-nodeUse of uninitialized value in string at /usr/share/lintian/checks/cruft line 67.Can't stat : No such file or directory | 01:21 |
cbx33 | known error when debuilding a package | 01:22 |
ogra | nope | 01:22 |
cbx33 | hmmm | 01:22 |
cbx33 | any clues? | 01:23 |
cbx33 | pacakge looks ok | 01:23 |
ogra | (mind you, i never use debuild) | 01:23 |
jsgotangco | w00t xorg flood by rodarvus | 01:23 |
cbx33 | what do you use? | 01:23 |
ogra | :)) | 01:23 |
ogra | dpkg-buildpackage | 01:23 |
cbx33 | hmm | 01:23 |
cbx33 | same rough syntax? | 01:24 |
ogra | but that rathher looks like a lintian error | 01:24 |
jsgotangco | ahhh ogra likes it rough and old fashioned | 01:24 |
ogra | :) | 01:24 |
cbx33 | can someone try lintian for me? | 01:24 |
ogra | i also prefer debhelper above cdbs :) | 01:24 |
jsgotangco | how german can you get | 01:24 |
jsgotangco | heh | 01:24 |
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ogra | try it yourself | 01:24 |
cbx33 | i did | 01:25 |
cbx33 | I get no error | 01:25 |
cbx33 | well i lie I get an error, just not that error | 01:25 |
ogra | jsgotangco, hmm, looking at other germans, thats not really german :) | 01:25 |
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cbx33 | :D | 01:25 |
jsgotangco | isn't debhelper enough? cddb just automates/eases some stuff that you can actually do straight from debhelper | 01:25 |
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jsgotangco | s/cddb/cdbs | 01:26 |
ogra | cdbs makes it easier if you do mass production | 01:28 |
rodarvus | jsgotangco: theres probably a little more for today ;) | 01:28 |
jsgotangco | heh more flood | 01:28 |
jsgotangco | right | 01:28 |
ogra | but its bad if you want fine grained packaging ..., then you have to disable/exclude half the world | 01:29 |
jsgotangco | never really used cdbs that much...its likely useful for syncs though | 01:30 |
ogra | depends | 01:31 |
ogra | i'm just merging g-p-m ... its a real pain, even both are cdbs | 01:31 |
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jsgotangco | ahh kernel update | 01:39 |
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flint | ogra, is the meeting over? I cannot get these times right. | 02:06 |
jsgotangco | err its only tuesday? | 02:06 |
flint | jsgotangco, thanks, I have been working like a dog in DC, worked the weekend and am losing track of days... | 02:07 |
jsgotangco | you can always use www.timeanddate.com | 02:08 |
jsgotangco | to check | 02:08 |
flint | ah, that's it! | 02:08 |
jsgotangco | or install tzwatch | 02:08 |
flint | jsgotangco, I had worldclock on my old machine, just got an IBM T-60, which I like a lot. | 02:08 |
jsgotangco | ahhh | 02:09 |
ogra | https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda helps too ;) | 02:09 |
flint | ogra, yes it says the next meeting in 5 July... :^) | 02:09 |
ogra | ?? | 02:09 |
flint | ogra, seriously...https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | 02:10 |
ogra | Next Meeting is on: Jul 12 at 12:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting | 02:10 |
ogra | i updated it an hour ago or so ... | 02:10 |
flint | ogra, absolutely, I am just a day ahead. Been playing with xen on top of 606, it rocks. | 02:10 |
ogra | nice | 02:11 |
flint | ogra, Just cleard cache, you is right!!!! | 02:11 |
jsgotangco | man my dsl sucks | 02:11 |
flint | ogra, think as the Drake as a clown, the Drake juggles 5 Baby clowns.... | 02:11 |
flint | ogra, it is a thing to behold! | 02:11 |
ogra | not unless the patches are sane enough to include them | 02:13 |
ogra | its a similar situation as we have with freeNX | 02:13 |
flint | ogra, you need much RAM. Been pretty stable (knock wood :^) | 02:14 |
ogra | still ... as long as the patches are not sane we wont include it | 02:14 |
flint | ogra, I suspect that xen is like sking or skydiving, it is not for everyone... | 02:15 |
ogra | nope ... it is thought for the upstream kernel, but linus waits for sanitizing as well | 02:16 |
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cberlo | is there a way to get pam_mount to work with ldm on edubuntu's ltsp? | 03:39 |
cberlo | orgra: how's local device access coming along? :) | 03:40 |
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RobinShepheard | Hello All | 03:56 |
bddebian | Hello RobinShepheard | 03:57 |
RobinShepheard | hiya bddebian, How are you?? | 03:57 |
bddebian | OK thanks, you? | 03:57 |
RobinShepheard | Not soo bad, still waiting fro internet at my new flat :( | 03:57 |
RobinShepheard | *for | 03:57 |
RobinShepheard | thanks for asking | 03:58 |
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bddebian | Heya Yagisan | 04:04 |
RobinShepheard | Daft question is there an app specifically designed to mirror the repositories locally or is it just a question on using rsync or an ftp mirror package?? | 04:06 |
RobinShepheard | s/on/of/ | 04:06 |
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Yagisan | you want to mirror all the repos ? or just the .debs you install ? | 04:07 |
RobinShepheard | Yagisan: All the repos, but it looks like I have just found my answer, changed the word order of my search and have just found apt-proxy | 04:08 |
RobinShepheard | I don't know why I didn't think to search for apt and proxy in the first place | 04:09 |
RobinShepheard | I am aiming to move the remaining 30 desktops over to edubuntu, so I am working on building a server cluster, to save bandwidth I want to mirror the repos here | 04:10 |
Yagisan | ah | 04:10 |
Yagisan | I use apt-cacher myself | 04:10 |
Yagisan | I let one box suck down what's needed | 04:10 |
RobinShepheard | ok I will check that out, that is basically what I want to do | 04:11 |
Yagisan | and all the rest just kit the cache (minus the different kernels) | 04:11 |
Yagisan | apt-proxy does basically same thing | 04:11 |
Yagisan | but was to nice on my 233Mhz proxy box | 04:11 |
Yagisan | s/was/wasn't | 04:11 |
RobinShepheard | ahh well this will be a 1.5Ghz celeron | 04:11 |
RobinShepheard | it is an spare desktop I have lying around in the office | 04:12 |
RobinShepheard | Yagisan: how did the sales pitch to the embassy go?? | 04:12 |
jsgotangco | goodnight all | 04:13 |
RobinShepheard | goodnight jsgotangco | 04:13 |
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Yagisan | RobinShepheard: didn't find the right person, so I'll need to try again later | 04:27 |
RobinShepheard | ahh bad luck, much of a delay do you reckon?? | 04:28 |
Yagisan | hmm, it's not uncommon to wait 6 months for an answer | 04:31 |
RobinShepheard | so nice and prompt replies then | 04:33 |
Yagisan | like this o_O ? | 04:55 |
RobinShepheard | ???? o_O ? | 05:02 |
Yagisan | RobinShepheard: imagine an eye bugging out | 05:02 |
Yagisan | I was commenting on my late reply | 05:03 |
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RobinShepheard | ahh sorry, not with it today. I would say daddy duties count as a perfectly good reason for delay in replying :) | 05:04 |
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sbalneav | Morning all | 05:33 |
bddebian | Hello sbalneav | 05:34 |
sbalneav | hello bddebian | 05:34 |
ogra | hey scott ! | 05:34 |
highvoltage | morning sbalneav | 05:41 |
cbx33 | ping ogra | 05:44 |
sbalneav | highvoltage: Hey there! | 05:47 |
highvoltage | :) | 05:47 |
sbalneav | hi ogra!! | 05:47 |
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cbx33 | ping ogra | 07:37 |
ogra | cbx33, sorry, no time for chatting today | 07:37 |
cbx33 | np | 07:37 |
cbx33 | sorry dude | 07:37 |
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EmxBA | hi everyone! | 07:59 |
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LaserJock | hi EmxBA | 08:19 |
EmxBA | hi! finnaly! after 20 minutes someone said something! :) | 08:20 |
sbalneav | Wasn't aware it was a timed test :) | 08:20 |
EmxBA | hehe | 08:20 |
LaserJock | I just couldn't leave you hanging like that ;-) | 08:21 |
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Yagisan | hmm | 08:34 |
Yagisan | edubuntu suitable for uni ? | 08:34 |
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Yagisan | s/I I/and I | 08:35 |
LaserJock | Yagisan: was that a question? | 08:41 |
Yagisan | LaserJock: yes, both to myself a,d the channel | 08:42 |
Yagisan | s/a,d/and | 08:42 |
mcksean | Yagisan, are you asking if edubuntu is suitable for use in a university? | 08:42 |
Yagisan | yep | 08:43 |
LaserJock | it can be | 08:43 |
Yagisan | I only tinker with the bits and peices under the hood | 08:43 |
LaserJock | obviously the default apps and look aren't suitable | 08:43 |
LaserJock | but those would probably be adjusted anyway | 08:43 |
Yagisan | I haven't paid much attention to what's on top | 08:43 |
mcksean | Are you wanting the benefits of the linux terminal server? | 08:43 |
LaserJock | the LTSP is what's really cool for the university setting | 08:43 |
Yagisan | mcksean: no, I patched edubuntu's ltsp - the benfits of that are cool | 08:44 |
Yagisan | I was think more like, do we have useful educational applications for tertiary education ? | 08:45 |
mcksean | Hmmm, I haven't spent a lot of time yet at the app level -- I think for me the primary benefit in highered/university setting would be the power of LTSP for managing desktop clients... | 08:46 |
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mcksean | although edubuntu includes some great apps for creativity that don't appear to be included by default in my dapper install (of course, I can just add the ones that I want) | 08:47 |
LaserJock | Yagisan: Edubuntu itself doesn't really have much for university level apps other than what you would find on Ubuntu (firefox, openoffice, etc.) | 08:48 |
LaserJock | but I'm planning on creating some meta-packages for Universe to address that | 08:49 |
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Yagisan | sounds cool | 08:51 |
LaserJock | I got my department sysadmin all excited about Edubuntu | 08:52 |
LaserJock | but the administration is less than eager | 08:53 |
Burgwork | LaserJock, universities are very hard to sell to. It is why we (Userful) don't have any customers in that market | 08:54 |
LaserJock | Burgwork: it's a little easier for me since it is a department thing, but they sure do hate change | 08:55 |
LaserJock | nobody will outright say no | 08:55 |
LaserJock | but they are extremely skeptical | 08:55 |
LaserJock | and it's not like the current setup works | 08:55 |
LaserJock | they are skeptical that anything *can* work | 08:56 |
cbx33 | I get that at the schol | 08:57 |
Burgwork | there is also a giant faceless IT dept full of people who like to say no | 08:58 |
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LaserJock | Burgwork: bah, we just work around them at my uni | 08:59 |
Yagisan | just 2 days at Uni and I'm already challenging them. I will use my superior Ubuntu system thank you very much, and those code examples better be 64bit clean | 08:59 |
Yagisan | >:) | 08:59 |
LaserJock | awesome ;-) | 08:59 |
Yagisan | WIndows ? No I didn't come here to learn use something obsolete ... | 09:00 |
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cbx33 | hhah | 09:14 |
cbx33 | you tell em Yagisan | 09:14 |
LaserJock | sadly, the CS dept. here is scalling down the Linux labs and adding to the Windows labs | 09:15 |
cbx33 | NOOOO | 09:15 |
LaserJock | interestingly, I think Physics is the last bastion of *nux around here | 09:16 |
LaserJock | they run BSD in there lab | 09:16 |
LaserJock | and I think many of the profs/students run *nix too | 09:17 |
Yagisan | hmm | 09:17 |
Yagisan | -> These presentations have been prepared using the software package Apreso. | 09:17 |
LaserJock | I'm about the only one in Chem that uses Linux for a desktop | 09:18 |
Yagisan | -> Apreso presentations can be viewed only in Microsoft Internet Explorer. | 09:18 |
Yagisan | WTF | 09:18 |
LaserJock | OS X is taking over | 09:18 |
LaserJock | Yagisan: ewwww | 09:18 |
Yagisan | I feel like i stepped in dog shit now | 09:19 |
Burgwork | Yagisan, do what desrt did and write a letter asking if they are providing copies of windows and where he should go to get reimbursed for the cost | 09:22 |
LaserJock | nice | 09:23 |
LaserJock | I'm getting to the place were I'd need to do that | 09:23 |
Yagisan | Burgwork: putting Windows on my system is like catching a sexually transmitted disease - not something I want to do =-O | 09:24 |
Burgwork | yes, but I think he got his point across | 09:24 |
LaserJock | I have *no* Windows installation discs, only stupid recover discs that only work on the original computer, but I've changed my boxen enough that they don't work anymore | 09:24 |
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Yagisan | I have Windows on CD. Windows 3.1, the Cd has bit rot though | 09:25 |
Yagisan | but IE 6 doesn't work on it | 09:25 |
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LaserJock | in many ways I think MS is shooting themselves in the foot by not shipping install CDs anymore | 09:26 |
Yagisan | buy whitebox next time | 09:26 |
LaserJock | I never directly pay for MS products | 09:27 |
Yagisan | we would get full cd's for those | 09:27 |
LaserJock | I only get MS stuff when whatever I'm buying comes with it | 09:27 |
Yagisan | (but the ones from the back of a white van were a few hundred dollars cheaper) | 09:27 |
LaserJock | heh | 09:28 |
Yagisan | not surprising the white van guy sold more then we did | 09:28 |
cbx33 | heheh | 09:28 |
Yagisan | but he didn't sell pcs :) | 09:29 |
Yagisan | actually, could you imagine a counterfeit pc | 09:29 |
Yagisan | pss wanna by a cheap pc - only $5 | 09:30 |
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lucasvo | which version of libc6 is in edgy atm? | 10:18 |
crimsun | 2.4-1ubuntu6 | 10:20 |
lucasvo | strange | 10:20 |
lucasvo | I did an upgrade to edgy but it says: libc6 is already the newest version. | 10:20 |
lucasvo | ah, wrong sources.list | 10:21 |
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cbx33 | pygi, it's finished | 10:31 |
cbx33 | well not finished | 10:31 |
cbx33 | but I'm in the process of uploading gisomount to REVU | 10:31 |
pygi | cbx33, what? | 10:31 |
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cbx33 | ah | 10:31 |
cbx33 | np | 10:31 |
cbx33 | I'm off out now anyway | 10:31 |
cbx33 | bye all | 10:31 |
pygi | but right, gisomount... :) | 10:31 |
cbx33 | LaserJock, if you see a REVU admin...and you have a sec | 10:32 |
pygi | Bye bye | 10:32 |
cbx33 | :D | 10:32 |
cbx33 | thanks | 10:32 |
LaserJock | cbx33: will do | 10:32 |
cbx33 | I'll bb in a few hours | 10:32 |
lucasvo | 22:32 < cbx33> I'll bb in a few hours | 10:47 |
lucasvo | aka sleeping :) | 10:47 |
LaserJock | yeah | 10:47 |
Yagisan | oh "sleeping", is that what it's called | 10:48 |
Yagisan | I prefer short coma myself | 10:48 |
lucasvo | that's not healthy, is it? | 10:49 |
Yagisan | must be, it's a side effect of children | 10:50 |
bddebian | Heh | 10:50 |
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