=== arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-6-76-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [01:49] good morning [01:51] hi jsgotangco === Kozuch [n=jan@159.108.broadband5.iol.cz] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-6-76-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === bash [n=bash@pc-2-11-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-6-76-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-6-76-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-6-76-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === m_n_p [n=grml@24-51-172-23.bflony.adelphia.net] has joined #edubuntu === m_n_p [n=grml@24-51-172-23.bflony.adelphia.net] has left #edubuntu ["grml.org] === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:12] hi sbalneav [04:13] Hey there LaserJock!! === neurogeek [n=neurogee@201.208.19.105] has joined #edubuntu [04:23] hey [04:24] hey jsgotangco === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@nat-pool-bos.redhat.com] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-6-76-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-6-76-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === ryan__ [n=ryan@203.87.200.166] has joined #edubuntu [07:01] how can i configure samba in ubuntu [07:03] ryan__: there's a good howto in the help page [07:03] under the server guide [07:05] you can also check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba === bimberi_ [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === Phlosten [n=Phlosten@CPE-60-229-77-49.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === ryan_ [n=ryan@203.87.200.166] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === k31th [n=keith@87.117.194.66] has joined #edubuntu === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi_ is now known as bimberi === Bot_Builder [n=michael@c-67-183-154-231.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:05] Would edubuntu be a good choice for a sort of after school education project sort of thing for children who moved to the United states a year ago? [08:05] Bot_Builder: yep [08:06] They've got computers, but they don't use them [08:06] can't speak very good english? [08:06] edubuntu can do many languages [08:06] that might be good [08:06] is it easy to switch between the languages? It'd be ideal if they could learn english as they do it [08:06] what sort of computers do you have? [08:07] its easy to swtich between languages [08:07] fairly easy [08:07] especially if its a largely spoken one [08:07] I think they've got P3s (I'm not actually part of this organization, just helping out) [08:07] chances are translations are complete for most if not all applications [08:08] I think they mostly speak somali [08:08] hmm, that is more of a challenge [08:08] however, you can get the community involved in the translation [08:08] hmmm [08:08] I don't know the specs of the computers [08:08] somali uses latin script [08:09] get some of the older kids and the parents involved and you can translate most of edubuntu in not too long [08:09] Yes, perhaps they could help out, but the main reason I'm involved is they need someone to install windows and such on their computers [08:09] also a great way to learn english and computers [08:10] I'm thinking I'll install windows 2000 (they seem to think it'll work, so the computers can't be so bad) [08:10] on some of them [08:10] and edubuntu on others [08:11] so they can learn the popular platform and benefit from edubuntu's software [08:11] you could do edubuntu on all, with rdesktop to a windows 200 machine [08:11] yeah, but then there'd be only one 2000 machine :P [08:12] people don't actually need windows [08:12] True [08:13] but its so popular that if these kids learn it, it'll help with getting jobs, etc [08:13] the Big Lie in North America is that they do [08:13] I would call that part of the big lie [08:13] teach them computers and they will figure out windows [08:13] Probably [08:14] Especially if they have to mess with bash to do any configuration :P [08:15] will really smarten em up [08:15] have you ever installed and edubuntu desktop [08:16] nope [08:16] i've got ubuntu though [08:16] ok how many times do you go to bash to do something simple [08:16] say create a worksheet? [08:16] nah [08:16] exactly [08:17] more like to get my dual screens working, configure fstab for new partitions [08:17] they are unlikely to be doing those things [08:17] ok, so the dual screen thing is a bad example [08:17] how about installing a program that's not a package [08:18] you could try using nautilus, but uh-oh, no administrative rights [08:18] unlikely to be doing that [08:18] most people never need more than what they have, and for the rest, there is gai === jsgotangco thinks of some software that is not packaged [08:18] so if you've got the knowhow pop open bash and sudo cp [08:18] you are not going to get everybody, but for now, new immigrants just need a computer that works [08:18] yeah i know :P [08:19] they will accept limitations (which I don;t accept exist) just to have access [08:19] ok, yeah it'll probably be no problem === Burgundavia should note he sells Linux on a daily basis and thus deals with all these questions, again and again [08:19] oh yeah [08:19] haha === jsgotangco shuts up and lets the salesman do the talking [08:20] Thin client stuff sounds interesting [08:20] too bad it seems like they've got a bunch of medium clients :P no fatty server, and no decent desktops [08:20] yep [08:20] then run xubuntu on them [08:20] we'll see though, if they can run 2000, they can probably run buntu [08:21] should be able to [08:21] what's the diff between xubuntu and edubuntu (other than xfce) [08:21] xubuntu is XFCE, edu is GNOME [08:21] right, but you lose all those differences between ubuntu and edubuntu [08:21] not really [08:21] well, maybe there's not that many [08:22] edubuntu is merely ubuntu+educational apps+ltsp [08:22] xfce and gnome both use gtk2 [08:22] xfce says its lightweight though [08:22] it is [08:23] there is a spec for integrating xubuntu+edu for the next release [08:24] there are two issues here, of course: computers in a lab and computers that are going home [08:24] the former are easy, as you (or another volunteer) run them [08:24] the later are more difficult [08:24] the advantage of having them all the same is that you can do training on the lab and then send them home with the same type of computer [08:24] ah, its lab [08:25] another great way to teach people computer skills to have them help recycle computers and then they get to take one home [08:25] yeah [08:26] Hmm, maybe I can make a xubuntu install with all the edu apps [08:28] in any case, I urge you to get involved in helping craft the next version of Edubuntu [08:29] you are the people that use it and can best tell us what you need and want [08:30] Hmm maybe, I'm working on a game engine practically full time. Its not really practical to work on a bunch of projects at once [08:30] true [08:30] And anyway, this is just a volunteer project [08:30] which game engine? [08:30] my own :P [08:31] Been working about 12 hours a day for 10 days === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [08:33] I'll keep it in mind though, if I keep in contact with this organization [08:33] ogra: hello [08:35] website needs some love too - http://haeconline.org/ [08:38] hmm, yeah, the website boasts of things that aren't happening - at least the computer side [08:39] Bot_Builder: http://www.oly-wa.us/freegeek/ [08:42] willowng has an installer [08:43] that i have never used but assume works :P [08:43] Burgundavia: ooh, sweet [08:43] Amaranth: if you give me code I can test it [08:43] bzr branch http://dev.realistanew.com/willowng === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c211-28-182-241.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [08:47] Oooh, I've got a computer i can try out my custom cd on === Phlosten [n=Phlosten@CPE-60-229-77-49.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [08:54] actually, a custom cd could be pretty damn hard [08:55] We'll see how the computers run edubuntu before doing anything drastic [08:56] not necessarily [08:57] Amaranth: willowng is your product? [08:57] spacey: yeah [08:57] ah, ok :) [08:57] why installer? [08:57] whats wrong with dpkg -i :P [08:57] slash a normal package [08:58] spacey: uh [08:58] spacey: as upstream i need a build system/installer in order for you to make a package [08:58] Burgundavia - well, adding the educational packages to xubuntu might take a bit of fiddling [08:58] Bot_Builder: you can use kickstart, if you want to avoid it [08:58] i'm talking about things like 'make' and './setup.py install' [08:59] Amaranth: ah ok;) [08:59] spacey: it's a good thing to have :) [08:59] ok =) [09:00] it's not like an autopackage installer or loki or anything [09:00] hehe, thats what i think about when you say installer (loki) [09:00] some crazy wizard [09:00] :D [09:01] we had lots of willow problems on our proxy server since it was upgrade from hoary -> breezy [09:01] so mad we decided to upgrade it to dapper and then all problems were gone [09:01] so now were happy again with willow [09:01] but such things are really nasty [09:02] i hope your version will not inherit such features =) [09:02] hehe, it's a rewrite [09:02] without a web interface i've got about 500 lines of code and afaik it's fully working [09:03] thats nice =) [09:03] how much lines does willow have? [09:03] far too many [09:04] although it does seem to use headers and such to fine-tune the filtering [09:05] but it basically implements a full HTTP client [09:05] i just pass things back and forth from server to browser [09:06] and hold on to the data to run the filter on to do checks [09:06] ah [09:06] sloccount in the unpacked willow dir says 3170 lines of code [09:07] in willowng it says 564 [09:07] :) [09:07] Total Estimated Cost to Develop = $ 14,808 [09:07] not implementing full http does save some code ofcourse:) [09:07] much easier to maintain [09:07] yeah [09:07] Amaranth: to be fair, do you include that reverend library? [09:07] Burgundavia: yeah [09:07] reverend lib? [09:08] Burgundavia: i took the actual useful part of that library, made it use sqlite, and included it with willowng [09:08] ah, ok [09:08] reverend is a python bayesian filter [09:08] bayesian classifier, rather [09:09] i'm $10,000 short so far :P [09:09] hehe [09:11] ah :) === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #edubuntu [09:23] I always thought that cost to develop thing was kind of funny [09:34] Bot_Builder: it's surprisingly accurate [09:35] Bot_Builder: but it assumes good code that has had quite a bit of bug fix time [09:35] same for the time to develop [09:35] for things like gtk+ it's pretty close to accurate [09:35] for a project started last month it's going to be wrong [10:01] ah, nowonder my money is so high [10:01] it doesn't even compile yet :P === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [10:22] well, thanks for the info === highvoltage [n=jono@196.1.57.88] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:13] ping ogra === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === Kozuch [n=jan@159.108.broadband5.iol.cz] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [01:21] ogra: /bin/pwd: couldn't find directory entry in `../../../..' with matching i-nodeUse of uninitialized value in string at /usr/share/lintian/checks/cruft line 67.Can't stat : No such file or directory [01:22] known error when debuilding a package [01:22] nope [01:22] hmmm [01:23] any clues? [01:23] pacakge looks ok [01:23] (mind you, i never use debuild) [01:23] w00t xorg flood by rodarvus [01:23] what do you use? [01:23] :)) [01:23] dpkg-buildpackage [01:23] hmm [01:24] same rough syntax? [01:24] but that rathher looks like a lintian error [01:24] ahhh ogra likes it rough and old fashioned [01:24] :) [01:24] can someone try lintian for me? [01:24] i also prefer debhelper above cdbs :) [01:24] how german can you get [01:24] heh === jsgotangco hides [01:24] try it yourself [01:25] i did [01:25] I get no error [01:25] well i lie I get an error, just not that error [01:25] jsgotangco, hmm, looking at other germans, thats not really german :) === cbx33 uses debhelper [01:25] :D [01:25] isn't debhelper enough? cddb just automates/eases some stuff that you can actually do straight from debhelper === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:26] s/cddb/cdbs [01:28] cdbs makes it easier if you do mass production [01:28] jsgotangco: theres probably a little more for today ;) [01:28] heh more flood [01:28] right [01:29] but its bad if you want fine grained packaging ..., then you have to disable/exclude half the world [01:30] never really used cdbs that much...its likely useful for syncs though [01:31] depends [01:31] i'm just merging g-p-m ... its a real pain, even both are cdbs === jsgotangco realized a long time ago that packaging doesn't like him and back [01:39] ahh kernel update === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ibook is now known as ogra === flint [n=flint@peter.rfa.org] has joined #edubuntu [02:06] ogra, is the meeting over? I cannot get these times right. [02:06] err its only tuesday? [02:07] jsgotangco, thanks, I have been working like a dog in DC, worked the weekend and am losing track of days... [02:08] you can always use www.timeanddate.com [02:08] to check [02:08] ah, that's it! [02:08] or install tzwatch [02:08] jsgotangco, I had worldclock on my old machine, just got an IBM T-60, which I like a lot. [02:09] ahhh [02:09] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda helps too ;) [02:09] ogra, yes it says the next meeting in 5 July... :^) [02:09] ?? [02:10] ogra, seriously...https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda [02:10] Next Meeting is on: Jul 12 at 12:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting [02:10] i updated it an hour ago or so ... [02:10] ogra, absolutely, I am just a day ahead. Been playing with xen on top of 606, it rocks. [02:11] nice [02:11] ogra, Just cleard cache, you is right!!!! [02:11] man my dsl sucks [02:11] ogra, think as the Drake as a clown, the Drake juggles 5 Baby clowns.... [02:11] ogra, it is a thing to behold! [02:13] not unless the patches are sane enough to include them [02:13] its a similar situation as we have with freeNX [02:14] ogra, you need much RAM. Been pretty stable (knock wood :^) [02:14] still ... as long as the patches are not sane we wont include it [02:15] ogra, I suspect that xen is like sking or skydiving, it is not for everyone... [02:16] nope ... it is thought for the upstream kernel, but linus waits for sanitizing as well === Yagisan [n=jamie@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === Xymor [i=enforcer@201.19.35.47] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === th1a [n=hoffman@pool-70-109-217-24.prvdri.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === Kozuch [n=jan@159.108.broadband5.iol.cz] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === cberlo [n=berloc@mars.dsbn.edu.on.ca] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [03:39] is there a way to get pam_mount to work with ldm on edubuntu's ltsp? [03:40] orgra: how's local device access coming along? :) === cberlo [n=berloc@mars.dsbn.edu.on.ca] has left #edubuntu [] === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ibook is now known as ogry === ogry is now known as ogra === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #edubuntu === RobinShepheard [n=robins@81.17.65.2] has joined #edubuntu [03:56] Hello All [03:57] Hello RobinShepheard [03:57] hiya bddebian, How are you?? [03:57] OK thanks, you? [03:57] Not soo bad, still waiting fro internet at my new flat :( [03:57] *for [03:58] thanks for asking === Yagisan sticks head in and waves === RobinShepheard waves back === Yagisan is buried in uni course work [04:04] Heya Yagisan [04:06] Daft question is there an app specifically designed to mirror the repositories locally or is it just a question on using rsync or an ftp mirror package?? [04:06] s/on/of/ === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu [04:07] you want to mirror all the repos ? or just the .debs you install ? [04:08] Yagisan: All the repos, but it looks like I have just found my answer, changed the word order of my search and have just found apt-proxy [04:09] I don't know why I didn't think to search for apt and proxy in the first place [04:10] I am aiming to move the remaining 30 desktops over to edubuntu, so I am working on building a server cluster, to save bandwidth I want to mirror the repos here [04:10] ah [04:10] I use apt-cacher myself [04:10] I let one box suck down what's needed [04:11] ok I will check that out, that is basically what I want to do [04:11] and all the rest just kit the cache (minus the different kernels) [04:11] apt-proxy does basically same thing [04:11] but was to nice on my 233Mhz proxy box [04:11] s/was/wasn't [04:11] ahh well this will be a 1.5Ghz celeron [04:12] it is an spare desktop I have lying around in the office [04:12] Yagisan: how did the sales pitch to the embassy go?? [04:13] goodnight all [04:13] goodnight jsgotangco === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [04:27] RobinShepheard: didn't find the right person, so I'll need to try again later [04:28] ahh bad luck, much of a delay do you reckon?? [04:31] hmm, it's not uncommon to wait 6 months for an answer [04:33] so nice and prompt replies then [04:55] like this o_O ? [05:02] ???? o_O ? [05:02] RobinShepheard: imagine an eye bugging out [05:03] I was commenting on my late reply === Yagisan was doing daddy duties [05:04] ahh sorry, not with it today. I would say daddy duties count as a perfectly good reason for delay in replying :) === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@125.212.117.61] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [05:33] Morning all [05:34] Hello sbalneav [05:34] hello bddebian [05:34] hey scott ! [05:41] morning sbalneav [05:44] ping ogra [05:47] highvoltage: Hey there! [05:47] :) [05:47] hi ogra!! === Rondom [n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b9649c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu === sbartleylinux [n=sbartley@67.108.61.130] has joined #edubuntu [07:37] ping ogra [07:37] cbx33, sorry, no time for chatting today [07:37] np [07:37] sorry dude === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === EmxBA [n=emx@SE400.PPPoE-3039.sa.bih.net.ba] has joined #edubuntu [07:59] hi everyone! === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [08:19] hi EmxBA [08:20] hi! finnaly! after 20 minutes someone said something! :) [08:20] Wasn't aware it was a timed test :) [08:20] hehe [08:21] I just couldn't leave you hanging like that ;-) === mcksean [n=smckay@209.170.255.14] has joined #edubuntu === mcksean [n=smckay@209.170.255.14] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === mcksean [n=smckay@209.170.255.14] has joined #edubuntu [08:34] hmm [08:34] edubuntu suitable for uni ? === Yagisan needs to introduce himself, I I mentioned I harrass^W help people here [08:35] s/I I/and I [08:41] Yagisan: was that a question? [08:42] LaserJock: yes, both to myself a,d the channel [08:42] s/a,d/and [08:42] Yagisan, are you asking if edubuntu is suitable for use in a university? [08:43] yep [08:43] it can be [08:43] I only tinker with the bits and peices under the hood [08:43] obviously the default apps and look aren't suitable [08:43] but those would probably be adjusted anyway [08:43] I haven't paid much attention to what's on top [08:43] Are you wanting the benefits of the linux terminal server? [08:43] the LTSP is what's really cool for the university setting [08:44] mcksean: no, I patched edubuntu's ltsp - the benfits of that are cool [08:45] I was think more like, do we have useful educational applications for tertiary education ? [08:46] Hmmm, I haven't spent a lot of time yet at the app level -- I think for me the primary benefit in highered/university setting would be the power of LTSP for managing desktop clients... === flint [n=flint@peter.rfa.org] has joined #edubuntu [08:47] although edubuntu includes some great apps for creativity that don't appear to be included by default in my dapper install (of course, I can just add the ones that I want) [08:48] Yagisan: Edubuntu itself doesn't really have much for university level apps other than what you would find on Ubuntu (firefox, openoffice, etc.) [08:49] but I'm planning on creating some meta-packages for Universe to address that === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #edubuntu [08:51] sounds cool [08:52] I got my department sysadmin all excited about Edubuntu [08:53] but the administration is less than eager [08:54] LaserJock, universities are very hard to sell to. It is why we (Userful) don't have any customers in that market [08:55] Burgwork: it's a little easier for me since it is a department thing, but they sure do hate change [08:55] nobody will outright say no [08:55] but they are extremely skeptical [08:55] and it's not like the current setup works [08:56] they are skeptical that anything *can* work [08:57] I get that at the schol [08:58] there is also a giant faceless IT dept full of people who like to say no === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-6-76-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:59] Burgwork: bah, we just work around them at my uni [08:59] just 2 days at Uni and I'm already challenging them. I will use my superior Ubuntu system thank you very much, and those code examples better be 64bit clean [08:59] >:) [08:59] awesome ;-) [09:00] WIndows ? No I didn't come here to learn use something obsolete ... === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [09:14] hhah [09:14] you tell em Yagisan [09:15] sadly, the CS dept. here is scalling down the Linux labs and adding to the Windows labs [09:15] NOOOO [09:16] interestingly, I think Physics is the last bastion of *nux around here [09:16] they run BSD in there lab [09:17] and I think many of the profs/students run *nix too [09:17] hmm [09:17] -> These presentations have been prepared using the software package Apreso. [09:18] I'm about the only one in Chem that uses Linux for a desktop [09:18] -> Apreso presentations can be viewed only in Microsoft Internet Explorer. [09:18] WTF [09:18] OS X is taking over [09:18] Yagisan: ewwww [09:19] I feel like i stepped in dog shit now [09:22] Yagisan, do what desrt did and write a letter asking if they are providing copies of windows and where he should go to get reimbursed for the cost [09:23] nice [09:23] I'm getting to the place were I'd need to do that [09:24] Burgwork: putting Windows on my system is like catching a sexually transmitted disease - not something I want to do =-O [09:24] yes, but I think he got his point across [09:24] I have *no* Windows installation discs, only stupid recover discs that only work on the original computer, but I've changed my boxen enough that they don't work anymore === Kozuch [n=jan@159.108.broadband5.iol.cz] has joined #edubuntu [09:25] I have Windows on CD. Windows 3.1, the Cd has bit rot though [09:25] but IE 6 doesn't work on it === Yagisan has extracted the audio now [09:26] in many ways I think MS is shooting themselves in the foot by not shipping install CDs anymore [09:26] buy whitebox next time [09:27] I never directly pay for MS products [09:27] we would get full cd's for those [09:27] I only get MS stuff when whatever I'm buying comes with it [09:27] (but the ones from the back of a white van were a few hundred dollars cheaper) [09:28] heh [09:28] not surprising the white van guy sold more then we did [09:28] heheh [09:29] but he didn't sell pcs :) [09:29] actually, could you imagine a counterfeit pc [09:30] pss wanna by a cheap pc - only $5 === mcksean [n=smckay@209.170.255.14] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] [10:18] which version of libc6 is in edgy atm? [10:20] 2.4-1ubuntu6 [10:20] strange [10:20] I did an upgrade to edgy but it says: libc6 is already the newest version. [10:21] ah, wrong sources.list === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu === wishicouldfly [n=icechat5@CPE001195572796-CM014110219537.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-253-20.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [10:31] pygi, it's finished [10:31] well not finished [10:31] but I'm in the process of uploading gisomount to REVU [10:31] cbx33, what? === pygi is very sorry if he doesn't understand a thing, because he just got back from a trip and is very tired :P [10:31] ah [10:31] np [10:31] I'm off out now anyway [10:31] bye all [10:31] but right, gisomount... :) [10:32] LaserJock, if you see a REVU admin...and you have a sec [10:32] Bye bye [10:32] :D [10:32] thanks [10:32] cbx33: will do [10:32] I'll bb in a few hours [10:47] 22:32 < cbx33> I'll bb in a few hours [10:47] aka sleeping :) [10:47] yeah [10:48] oh "sleeping", is that what it's called [10:48] I prefer short coma myself [10:49] that's not healthy, is it? [10:50] must be, it's a side effect of children [10:50] Heh === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-244-232.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu