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nickm1 | hello is there someone i could talk to? my name is Nick McMahon from the ubuntu marketing team | 12:18 |
nickm1 | i'm looking to find an ubuntu color chart | 12:21 |
nickm1 | well, colour chart :) | 12:37 |
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newz2000 | I'd love to see ken's concepts, but bootsplash.org won't resolve for me. Not even if I use the coral cache. :-( | 04:20 |
newz2000 | oh, got it. Man that looks sharp. | 04:23 |
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newz2000 | klepas: got a moment? | 04:28 |
klepas | sure, what's up? | 04:29 |
newz2000 | I'm going to be restructing the server that hosts art.ubuntu.com | 04:29 |
newz2000 | Do you have any special config there that you want preserved? | 04:30 |
klepas | sorry, i didn't not create or help set it up | 04:31 |
klepas | henrik would be the person to consult in that regard | 04:31 |
newz2000 | sorry for the delay, got caught up in a big dns question | 04:43 |
newz2000 | klepas: Yeah, everyone says that server can be nuked, I just knew that you've put some effort into it and I wouldn't want you to loose anything | 04:44 |
klepas | i haven't really done anything other than add submitted content | 04:45 |
newz2000 | ok. I'm not going to delete that content, just move it around | 04:45 |
klepas | so basically i had admin rights and used them to approve submissions | 04:45 |
klepas | good :) | 04:45 |
klepas | what is your plan for the system? | 04:45 |
newz2000 | We're going to set it up for shared hosting so the loco teams can have free web space. | 04:45 |
newz2000 | ubuntu-au.org and etc. | 04:46 |
newz2000 | That server is way underutilized and there are a lot of people wanting hosting | 04:46 |
klepas | :) | 04:46 |
klepas | no i mean in regards to artwork...? | 04:46 |
newz2000 | Are you asking what artwork I'm going to make, or what I'm going to do with the existing artwork? | 04:47 |
klepas | well the system supporting the existing artwork | 04:48 |
newz2000 | Hopefully I wont' change anything except the location of the files on the disk. | 04:48 |
newz2000 | If we want to open it back up, that's fine. If we want to kill it, that's fine too. | 04:48 |
klepas | well make sure we have a backup of it all | 04:49 |
newz2000 | You bet. | 04:49 |
newz2000 | I ran webalizer on the log files for that site... it gets a remarkably number of hits | 04:49 |
newz2000 | In June it got over 5,000 page views and > 300,000 hits PER DAY | 04:50 |
newz2000 | Sorry, that's 30,000 hits, not 300,000. | 04:51 |
klepas | that is a fairly large amount | 04:55 |
klepas | indicates the site needs to be looking polished and has to be accessable to it's users | 04:55 |
klepas | because that number of visitors would include a lot of disheartened people | 04:55 |
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newz2000 | anyone feeling resourceful with icons? | 06:11 |
newz2000 | I'm doing the bzr website and wanted three icons. I've found two great ones in tango-scalable, a third is OK but not quite right | 06:12 |
newz2000 | I need a book, and stock_new-address-book.svg is close, but its the wrong perspective | 06:13 |
newz2000 | It's laying down and it would look better standing up | 06:13 |
newz2000 | My attempts look like a rectangle | 06:13 |
newz2000 | oh wait, I found the dictionary icon, it will work just fine | 06:13 |
klepas | hehe :) | 06:33 |
newz2000 | know of a way to do something like "outer glow" in inkscape? | 06:37 |
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klepas_Zzz | select the largest background object, duplicate it, move it to the bottom, press ctrl + shift and use your mouse to pull the objects arrows to make it large | 06:39 |
klepas_Zzz | and now change the fill to whatever you need to acheive the right colour for a glow :) | 06:39 |
klepas_Zzz | play around with the transparency/opacity, gradients and so forth | 06:39 |
klepas_Zzz | that's it for me, 'night | 06:40 |
newz2000 | thanks, I'll try it | 06:40 |
newz2000 | night | 06:40 |
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troy_s | hi sara_ | 07:40 |
sara_ | hey troy | 07:41 |
sara_ | I am wondering how would a project go about getting help fromt he art team | 07:42 |
troy_s | the mailing list is sort of our main avenue | 07:42 |
troy_s | for discussion currently | 07:42 |
troy_s | and we try to use the spec procedure at launchpad. | 07:42 |
sara_ | but Ineed to join that right | 07:42 |
sara_ | spc procedure? | 07:43 |
troy_s | the mailing list is probably your best starting point... | 07:43 |
troy_s | what in particular do you need? | 07:44 |
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troy_s | if you could wiki the needs, it is possible that you MIGHT get someone who can help. | 07:44 |
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troy_s | hi dinda. | 07:44 |
dinda | hi Troy_s et al | 07:44 |
sara_ | We are working on an ubuntu magazine, and we are getting to the point where we might need some art work and maybe some help | 07:44 |
sara_ | Yeah we have a wiki and are restructuring so that we have a art work page and we are going to have a list of thing to do soon | 07:45 |
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troy_s | well it might be useful to get in touch with the mailing list. unfortunately it still has some unfortunate bad habits on it, but it is evolving into a more professional direciton. | 07:46 |
sara_ | ok so as soona s we have something up I guess I'll make apost | 07:47 |
troy_s | that would be great | 07:47 |
troy_s | we have some sample specs there | 07:47 |
troy_s | if you could at least wiki the needs, and be clear and specific, perhaps offering some samples | 07:47 |
troy_s | or something | 07:47 |
troy_s | it would greatly aid the folks who need to see that sort of thing :) | 07:47 |
troy_s | photo based items i know i can knock off relatively quickly for you | 07:48 |
troy_s | illustration will take longer. | 07:48 |
troy_s | and i don't know how many on the team are adept illustrators. | 07:48 |
sara_ | ok, I'll work on it and hopefully have a nice list up | 07:48 |
dinda | sara_, the marketing team still seems unclear on how to use the Spec/wiki/Launchpad for developing/tracking things | 07:48 |
dinda | I keep meaning to try to post to the mailing list some of the process I observed but have been busy | 07:49 |
troy_s | dinda: how do you know that? | 07:49 |
troy_s | ahh. | 07:49 |
sara_ | yeah, I am sorry to say I am in part at fault for that at least for my part | 07:49 |
troy_s | yes the spec system is terrific | 07:49 |
dinda | from the mailing list and from being in paris | 07:49 |
troy_s | for quick and easy references | 07:49 |
troy_s | dinda, you were in paris? *embarassed* | 07:49 |
dinda | lol - yeah and you were extremely jetlagged ;) | 07:50 |
dinda | as I recall :) | 07:50 |
troy_s | LOL | 07:50 |
troy_s | indeed. | 07:50 |
sara_ | didnda you should probably post, since I know I am doing things wring, but really don't know how to do them right | 07:50 |
troy_s | crappers... didn't realize that was you. | 07:51 |
troy_s | sara_, the more folks who get up to speed on launchpad etc | 07:51 |
troy_s | the more can spread the knowledge. | 07:51 |
dinda | alot of good work happened there and I hope the marketing team can learn from the artwork group's development | 07:51 |
sara_ | I'll take a look at the marketing team work and see what we can learn from it | 07:52 |
dinda | there are lots of very enthusiastic folks in the marketing group but I'd hate to see duplication of effort avoided if possible | 07:52 |
sara_ | yeah, I know what you mean I have 3 similar proposals on my mailbox that would of done with collaboartion | 07:53 |
troy_s | that's why specs are wonderful | 07:54 |
troy_s | you can easily cite a link | 07:54 |
troy_s | with full design needs | 07:54 |
troy_s | without typing 'we have been over this a 1000000 times, so here is a copy of the text...' | 07:54 |
troy_s | laf. | 07:54 |
sara_ | I just took a look at you specs on launchpad and I am certain that our projects would greatly benefit from them | 07:56 |
dinda | exactly, here's the project spec, everyone can throw darts at it, and it can move forward | 07:56 |
troy_s | the idea behind the specs is to get them started in x cycle | 07:57 |
troy_s | get them fleshed out while everyone does their official work for x cycle | 07:57 |
troy_s | and have them ready for attacking in x+1 | 07:57 |
sara_ | great, I'll keep on looking and maybe I'll pick some examples so that we can get started | 07:59 |
troy_s | those specs | 07:59 |
troy_s | are based on martin pitt's very good samples | 08:00 |
troy_s | so they aren't out of tangent. | 08:00 |
troy_s | martin works with the dev team and has a couple of exemplary specifications on launchpad. | 08:00 |
sara_ | uhh. I came here looking for art help and I am getting help on managing the project. Thanks | 08:00 |
troy_s | so i borrowed his outline | 08:00 |
troy_s | well you can't really build a house without a blueprint | 08:00 |
sara_ | exactly. I just realized that I am missing ameeting on the marketing channel, so I got to go | 08:01 |
dinda | was that now? | 08:01 |
sara_ | no wrong time | 08:02 |
sara_ | ooops. I got the tabas messes up | 08:02 |
sara_ | the mmeting is the 13th | 08:02 |
dinda | troy_s; development seems to be moving well for the artwork team this cycle | 08:03 |
troy_s | dinda, plodding like a beast of burden | 08:03 |
troy_s | hopefully people who can work within a professional structure will continue to appear as they have been. | 08:03 |
dinda | it was great to see Ken W get picked up for the kubuntu stuff - his work is great | 08:04 |
troy_s | eventually, when we hit critical mass and things start to run themselves, i will attempt to bring in some very gifted folks. | 08:04 |
troy_s | yes... he needs to get some outlines and such in place... | 08:04 |
troy_s | which is why i was all for getting some textural references in place for ubuntu. | 08:04 |
troy_s | it is hard to hit a moving target. | 08:04 |
troy_s | right now, kubuntu is too hodgey podgy too. | 08:04 |
troy_s | but again, that will evolve hopefully. | 08:05 |
dinda | definitely | 08:05 |
dinda | it's all really a much larger project than most realize | 08:05 |
troy_s | yes... i think the open source art community hasn't really hit the professional level that it needs to | 08:06 |
troy_s | and it is largely because everyone fritters away doing their own thing... | 08:06 |
troy_s | which doesn't see the 'forest through the trees' | 08:06 |
troy_s | how's texas? hot? | 08:06 |
troy_s | you are in texas aren't you? | 08:06 |
dinda | hotter than hades with mosquitoes to boot | 08:06 |
dinda | yip, Galveston, near Houston | 08:07 |
troy_s | mosquitoes are great if you are a bat | 08:07 |
dinda | yeah we saw about two million of them last week in Austin - great - no bugs by them | 08:07 |
dinda | I'm hoping that the artwork model will help with marketing and then eventually my area - training | 08:08 |
troy_s | official ubuntu training? | 08:08 |
dinda | yip | 08:08 |
troy_s | wow | 08:09 |
troy_s | are you a canonical employee as of now> | 08:09 |
dinda | training is always the last thing | 08:09 |
dinda | nope. . . someday I wish ;) | 08:09 |
troy_s | everything is the last thing until people see a 'critical mass' point... then everyone wants to help. | 08:09 |
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dinda | exactly, once the product is built and finally adopted then someone will realize we might need to actually offer training to larger installs - like the 40k install shown in paris | 08:10 |
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dinda | but I'm going to start the ball rolling and work on some specs and wiki pages - there's already alot in place that can hep | 08:12 |
dinda | help | 08:12 |
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dinda | gotta run off for awhile - nice chatting with you all | 08:23 |
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newz2000 | Fill in the blank: | 08:32 |
newz2000 | The Ubuntu Artwork team exist to _______. | 08:32 |
troy_s | eek | 08:33 |
troy_s | look to mark's quotations as a good starting point. | 08:33 |
newz2000 | good idea | 08:33 |
troy_s | i believe the team exists to manage the aesthetic development of the entire Ubuntu project | 08:33 |
troy_s | although those are grandiose words right now considering where we are at. | 08:33 |
troy_s | :) | 08:33 |
newz2000 | Something like, "make the Ubuntu desktop ever more usable and attractive." | 08:34 |
troy_s | it extends beyond that in scope | 08:35 |
troy_s | it will eventually encompass the marketing aesthetic, etc. | 08:35 |
troy_s | as well as other advertising related matters. | 08:35 |
newz2000 | Anything you can think of that needs to be included currently in that list? | 08:36 |
newz2000 | "Ubuntu desktop and its diriviatives..." | 08:36 |
newz2000 | :-( speling | 08:37 |
newz2000 | (sic) | 08:37 |
troy_s | laf | 08:38 |
troy_s | well ... again, i think that is the futures component. | 08:38 |
troy_s | currently, we will be lucky if we can actually coordinate a usplash | 08:39 |
troy_s | :) | 08:39 |
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kwwii | moin | 10:51 |
kwwii | I just posted the svg sources to the pngs I sent to the list, in case someone is interested | 11:00 |
kwwii | anyone seen frank lately? | 11:01 |
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