=== jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:11] What'd I miss, what'd I miss? [01:11] + hello all there :) [01:11] hey [01:12] aloha, dotwaffle? :) [01:14] Well, I'm not in Hawaii, but aloha none the less =) === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:14] Can't make this Thursday's meeting =( === jenda has ever been to Hawaii... [01:14] nixternal! [01:14] nixternal_? [01:15] Make that the only state I've never been to :) === dotwaffle wonders how long it will be until Puerto Rico becomes a states. [01:15] whats up bud [01:15] nice little network hiccup there [01:15] (only state of the US... but no, I have to take that back: Puerto Rico :) ) [01:15] Ah... [01:15] had a good trip i take it? [01:16] dotwaffle: I thought it was - my bad. [01:16] nixternal: quite good :) [01:16] I'll be there tomorrow supporting you, don't worry :) [01:16] glad to hear...of course you visited one of the most expensive of the states too [01:16] hehe [01:16] thank you sir..much appreciated [01:16] err, today my time :) [01:17] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/WikiMockup <- layout 1 draft [01:17] most expensive? Alaska? [01:17] Expensiva. [01:17] nixternal: seen that. Very, very nice work. I had a few remarks... [01:17] oh..i thought you said you went to hawaii [01:17] nah - only state I haven't :) [01:17] must of gotten confused during the net hiccup [01:18] not bad for a Czech, eh? :) [01:18] im jealous..i have never been to alaska [01:18] i have a lot of Czech friends here, so it is only a matter of time ;) [01:18] hehe :) [01:19] I just made it to AK this summer. Was one of the best ever. [01:19] I totally loved AK :) [01:20] i have heard cool things [01:20] i must make it there [01:20] sooon [01:20] brb b4 my pizza goes up in flames [01:20] almost forgot about that === _sara [n=sara@pool-70-17-33-13.pskn.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:35] hello sara_ [01:36] hello Janda [01:36] jenda [01:36] ;) [01:36] Just came back. [01:36] sorry [01:37] I am on my vacations right now, but is raining so I'm inside [01:37] didn't yet make it through the gazillion tons of mail ;) [01:37] Ah right - got that one, though :) [01:37] which one? [01:37] No problem - have a good vacation. [01:37] The one about you being away. [01:38] yeah ,but it has rain the whole time so it has not beign fun [01:38] ooh. US? [01:38] It's been sunny all the time here (Czech Rep.) [01:38] yeah north east, T-stroms [01:38] ohh how hjealous [01:38] don't be. [01:39] It's very, very hot. [01:39] I can barely bear it ;) [01:39] is hot in here, but full of T-steomr so it just makes it muggy and sticky [01:39] ouch. [01:39] That's not very nice... lemme guess - south west US? [01:40] :) [01:40] yeah and the whole week is going to be like tihs, my luck :( [01:40] noth east [01:41] NorthEAst [01:41] Haha... alright... let's call that a close miss. I guessed the exact opposite. :D [01:41] I'd bet New Mexico is a lot hotter. [01:41] And it has a lot of storms too ;) [01:41] sara_, yeah, we get lots of storm since 3 weeks (quebec) [01:41] Hello Bilange :) [01:41] hello jenda [01:41] I'm sure, but no humidity like here [01:41] sara_: WDC? [01:42] i ahte T-stroms [01:42] Philly [01:42] Or one of the other Chesapeake-bordering places? [01:42] Ah. [01:42] :) [01:42] I lived in WDC for three years. I konw the feeling. [01:42] I had a headache every-single-day. [01:42] yeah it horrible, but I just love the area [01:42] (TM) [01:43] Oh it's beautiful :D I loved it too. [01:43] by the way we are supose to have a meeting for the magazine the 17th . I am wondering if we can use the marketing chanel === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:47] sara_, if you are meeting, please do it in #ubuntu-meeting [01:48] DO I need to get in contac twith anyone about that [01:50] nope, merely make certain you are not going to conflict [01:50] the channel itself and fridge will tell you [01:50] also, tell the fridge people about your meeting [01:51] how you do taht? [01:51] whoa re the fridge people? [01:51] fridge.ubuntu.com [01:51] the community news site, also runs the meeting calendar [01:51] ohh I see that now [01:53] fridge-devel@lists.ubuntu.com [01:54] thanks, as soon as we agre on a time I'll do it and send an e-mail to the marketing list also [02:08] I have no plans to switch to Ubuntu. (That's because I already use it -- but if I didn't I *would* switch!) -rob "roblimo" miller === adamant1988 [n=adam@h-141-153-101-95.ckb.meer.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:09] Hello all [02:10] jenda glad to see you're back :) === j_baer_ [n=baerj@c-24-11-169-4.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:13] well not so much with the back apparently [02:13] adamant1988: very, very back :) [02:13] haha [02:13] just a little tired, overwhelmed and... [02:13] I created a logo mockup for SU [02:14] a little drunk too, but that'll pass. [02:14] :) [02:14] adamant1988: saw it ;) Good work, appreciated... [02:14] but... [02:14] what we need is a site graphics proposal now. [02:14] What are you looking for exactly? [02:15] Well... [02:15] I'm not great with templates but I think I could whip up a mockup.. [02:15] striking original, simple and elegant ;) [02:15] a block of text fro ubuntu.com for now [02:15] How many sub pages is spread ubuntus site going to need? [02:15] hey ... are you folks talking about spread ubuntu? [02:16] are we talking like a single page website or a LOT of pages? [02:16] and five big colorful links: See it, Try it, Get it, Shipit, SPREAD IT. [02:16] adamant1988: the mockup: just the front page [02:16] j_baer_: yep [02:16] I'm the new guy to the team ... [02:17] Jenda just some ideas completely white, a large wireframe globe with the links marked as locations on it. The globe being inside an Ubuntu logo [02:18] any text and such can written in scrollable columns linked to the globe... [02:18] it's just an idea... [02:18] adamant1988: that's very nice... but I can't think of more of a use for it than a background image for SU or something of the sort. [02:18] unless you make it the main menu too. [02:19] Make locations on the globe link to sub pages. [02:19] We don't really need a logo (as was decided after discussion) - logos are for branding. Do we brand with Ubuntu or Spreadubuntu? [02:19] Ubuntu - if you ask me. [02:19] adamant1988: hmm... [02:19] there was a lot of talk of a spreadubuntu logo and I did a mockup really quickly =\ [02:21] no ones replied on my switch data project =\ [02:21] I think is goos, but I just don'y know how we would carry it out [02:21] [18:44] I lived in WDC for three years. I konw the feeling [02:21] where at? [02:21] i used to live there...my x and daughter still live there [02:21] Willard Ave. [02:22] Chevy Chase. [02:22] ahhh [02:22] i live in g'town, and alexandria...and spent most of my time in southern maryland [02:22] i was stationed at patuxent river [02:22] sara_ what? [02:23] your proposal, I like the idea, but as it stand right now it would be hard to carry it our [02:23] adamant1988: whatcha mean by "a lot of talk of a spreadubuntu"? [02:23] err... + logo [02:24] maybe when we get the spreadubuntu site we could make a testimonial section [02:24] I mean I came into the channel and it's what everyone was discussing was spreadubuntu and a logo for it and all that [02:24] ohh I was responding to no one answering to your proposal [02:24] Sara_ I am willing to do the grunt work on that project myself. [02:25] And I don't know if spread ubuntu could use the testimonials or not, but I think the info could be useful itself... [02:26] ohh, perhaps you can try to add that to the structure of spread ubuntu on the Seet it or Try it part. Like what others are saying about ubuntu [02:26] I use modo from luxology and they have similar section on their website [02:27] but not as elaborated [02:27] Well my idea for implimenting the data would be simple but effective "testimonial banner ads" You see the picture, the brief description (so and so, age, new user) and a good one liner from their blog. [02:28] where would you post the adds [02:28] Banners make good signatures in forums. [02:28] There are tons of sites that promote Ubuntu that would be happy to display them. [02:28] uhh, interesting [02:29] aside from eventually getting our own page to put them on... which was the main goal. [02:29] Maybe you need to make a mockup [02:29] you are good with graphics [02:29] decent... [02:30] Mockup of what the page should look like? [02:30] or banners or what? [02:31] mockup of how you think the thing would actually look and maybe an explanation on how people would get acees to it. The bannes and what they would link to. [02:31] I'm thinking that the banners could actually link to the blog [02:31] I'll create a mockup banner with my photo [02:31] I would like to know if i am lookinf into using Linux how would I get access to it. How could I be exposse to it [02:32] Ubuntu is one of the first things people come to when they search in linux... But at that point they still need convinced... [02:33] but if our aim is 0 cost marketing then I think we'll have a harder time reaching the masses. Not impossible by any stretch though. [02:33] not me, I did not hear about ubuntu until i had try sometihn like three distros and was frustated about to quit [02:33] it was the first thing I heard about [02:34] I couldn't try it because breezy didn't like my computer... [02:34] just a thought... maybe we could get some press on PCworlds site? [02:34] they have a writer who is VERY partial to Ubuntu. [02:34] we already have press there [02:34] so where do you think we should put the banners [02:34] and to get more press costs a butt load..i know i used to do hardware reviews for them [02:35] or where we wouldbe allow to put eh banners. I would like to see one on distrowatch [02:35] well, where is the target audience going to be? [02:36] In particular pick a target market... if it's tech savvy computer users then I could imagine that working something out with computer help forums and linux forums would be a good place to get some activity. [02:36] as long as the forums are completely microsoft owned I don't see them objecting, most of them have members who use alternate OS's etc. [02:36] probably [02:37] For the end-user and home user, that's more difficult [02:37] consumer = 10 to dead on age, male and female....business = all of them [02:37] they usually visit places like ebay and usually only because their friends tell them about it or they chance upon it in google. [02:38] so getting to them is best done via word of mouth =\ [02:40] so.. I don't know if 'pass this on to your friends' emails are allowed here, but that's one way to get to them... [02:41] it could work, I would be carfull with some over zealous poeple spamming it === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:42] Yeah, but that would be a good place to put the email... I know some places I could get it started from, I'm sure everyone does.. [02:43] I have no idea [02:43] :) [02:43] lol [02:43] you don't have an end user friend with an email account? [02:43] ok gotta go to dinnet now, but looking foward to see how this idea develops [02:43] ok :) [02:50] welcome back from beach ;) [02:52] gnomefreak: aloha to you ;) [02:52] welcome back jenda ;) [02:53] thanks ;) [02:53] I'll drop out in a bit, though. [02:53] Dead tired. [02:53] and drunk [02:53] I'll be on for two weeks now. [02:53] adamant1988: not anymore ;) [02:53] lol [02:54] me too jenda === gnomefreak tired and getting agrevated with someone :( [02:55] gnomefreak, the answer is an anticoagulant. [02:55] ;) [02:55] That's what I do when peopl... === adamant1988 thinks better of finishing that statement. [02:56] I got someone really interesting in Ubuntu today [02:57] I just took my laptop down to the local library and sat with it for a while... wasn't long at all before people noticed I wasn't using Windows. [02:57] I am thinking about trying it again and taking Ubuntu disks with me [02:57] adamant1988: really? [02:57] Interesting... [02:57] Yeah [02:58] I had to give about 10 people links to Ubuntu.com [02:58] and detailed instructions on how to get CDs from shipit. [02:59] but this one kid in particular was going spastic, he begged me to let him play on the lappy. [02:59] its ubuntu what could he break ;) [02:59] lol [02:59] and it wasn't connected to the net [02:59] ah [02:59] haha :) true. No pass, no spaz. [03:00] I was just working on my blog post in OO.o and listening to some ogg music. [03:00] even if he had password he wouldnt know what to do ;) === zenwhen [n=zenwhen@74.131.98.27] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === jenda greets the zen-people ;) [03:01] I like the Simply Free idea for a slogan though... I've thought of so many ways that can be made into a good ad [03:01] I'm thinking I might use that as the slogan for my project in town and see how it goes. [03:02] jenda: i need to hire you...i need you to shake the ubuntu-list mailman and get me a LoCo team list setup so everyone on my LoCo can communicate ;) [03:02] ooh ;) [03:02] nixternal: I'm good with that kind of thing. write me an email with the details ;) [03:02] i have emailed everyone and their mother, and never got a reply [03:03] for 2 weeks now [03:03] i guess i just needed to email the jenda ;) [03:03] haha :) [03:04] No-one dares not to reply the jenda ;) I'll do all I can to get a ML for you. [03:04] lol [03:04] When is the ubuntupeople site going to be back up? [03:05] adamant1988: it won't. [03:05] -_- [03:05] That sucks... so the marketing team will have no website.... [03:06] It won't have a _forum_. [03:06] We decided that on the meeting. [03:06] We'll have the wiki... [03:06] nixternal: BTW, I kinda like the TOC on the right... [03:07] TOC? and we're just going to use the wiki for everything? [03:07] not for everything. [03:07] jenda: you mean in the box to the right? [03:08] a box [03:08] There's the mailing list for communication [03:08] nixternal: yep [03:08] ok [03:08] but my word isn't final, you know that :) [03:08] yeah, but we'll have our OWN wiki not the one on ubuntu.com right? [03:08] adamant1988: no, ubuntu.com [03:08] we have a meeting in a few days, and i want everyone involved [03:08] No separationism any more. [03:08] nixternal: me too. [03:08] ok, is spreadubuntu going to be on the main ubuntu site as well? [03:09] I think spreadubuntu.* will forward to spread.ubuntu.com [03:09] i just requested 500 more cd's for "Ubuntu Chicago Days" in a couple of months [03:10] I requested 50 and was shot down to 30... [03:11] this will be my 2nd order of 250+ [03:11] nixternal: nice :) [03:11] they go quick [03:11] i got rid of 250 in less then 30 minutes at the last show [03:11] I requested 41 and will get the lot. [03:12] why did I get shot down? is my town undeserving =( [03:12] Ubuntu Chicago is going to do a day in chicago of just marketing Ubuntu, hacking and enjoying the city...there are a few computer places and we want to put up posters and what not and kind of own that part of the city for the day [03:12] 500 will last i would say a good 6 hours [03:12] adamant1988: the reason you gave seemed to be satisfactoy for 30 CDs only to shipit, I guess. [03:12] as only people interested, or who we make interested will grab them [03:12] adamant1988: it's not personal :) i heard of someone who ordered 300 and got 100 [03:13] im sure they will shrink my request hardcore [03:13] you always request more then you need, just in case [03:13] still blows I'm going to have to order more than that to get what I need for the school.... [03:14] adamant1988: i have spoken to a couple of the people in charge of that task, and they say as long as you can provide a good, clean legit reason and can back it up, they have no problem doing it [03:15] OOH I like these groovix computers sites... [03:16] wow they stocked up well, maybe i should order my computer from them instead of system 76... === jenda nods off to a deep sleep. === bimberi drops a saucepan [03:17] lol === jenda notices nothing... [03:17] lol [03:17] and his cursor moves towards the X on Xchat's upper right corner... [03:17] that _is_ deep [03:18] so if jenda falls asleep now..that means when i wake up in the morning, i should have a solid 100+ emails in the marketing team inbox [03:18] Hahahha :D [03:18] Not today, nixternal, sorry :) [03:18] i was looking forward to at least 1 dangit ;) [03:18] I promise I'll catch up tomorrow, though. === nixternal closes kontact [03:19] ya jenda, i need you well rested for tomorrow [03:19] don't need you falling asleep right when it is my turn in front of the CC firing squad [03:19] actually, everyone in here...TOMORROW @ 20:00 UTC, CommunityCouncil meeting, and I am up for membership... I need you to show me some love!!! [03:19] LOL [03:20] don't make me do a channel ping [03:21] what? [03:22] what's the CC for? [03:23] Community Council [03:23] for my Ubuntu membership [03:24] i have my 2 big membership requests within the next week...i have Ubuntu membership tomorrow, and then Kubuntu membership next week [03:24] and then I have LoCo membership or introduction tomorrow as well [03:24] you have to request Ubuntu membership? [03:24] what are the benefits of that? [03:25] everything [03:25] specifically? [03:25] that is the benefits...you have a deeper communication channel which is huge, and it is just a small step and a token of the CC's appreciation for the work I have done..but I am not doing it for the benefits, I am doing it for the LOVE!!!! [03:25] nixternal: kubuntu membership implies ubuntu membership - you don't need both [03:26] they are seperate bimberi [03:26] nope [03:27] i thought they were, as if you are on Kubuntu member launchpad, your not on Ubuntu member launchpad, and plus there are 2 different CC's reviewing your history [03:27] you should find that kubuntu-members is a member of ubuntu-members [03:27] so why should I apply to get ubuntu membership? (that's what I'm asking)... [03:28] i guess you are right on that bimberi, as that is how it is [03:28] gah this modem, trying to load launchpad is sooo slllloooww [03:29] adamant1988: it's recognition of your efforts as part of the ubuntu community [03:29] oh I see... [03:29] I guess I will just ahve to try harder. [03:30] nixternal: the CC wanted to offload some of the membership application load, so the kubuntu and edubuntu CC's were established [03:30] ahhh [03:30] i see [03:31] nixternal: so, up to you, i reckon you're fine for either :) [03:32] or both === nixternal is still goin' for both ;) === bimberi pities the poor CC's [03:33] i was told by others on the Kubuntu team to do it...so i will follow the leader ;) that was bad...verry bad [03:33] gahaha bimberi [03:33] thx [03:35] nixternal: hehe, no not that _you're_ applying. Just what it's effect is on the CC's wish to reduce the workload [03:36] i know...had to poke fun at you though ;) [03:36] :P [03:37] adamant1988: you don't have to try harder. Just keep up the effort and decide when you feel ready to apply. The criteria is essentially 2 months of sustained, significant contribution [03:37] heh, well I should be able to keep that up... [03:37] I wonder if these groovix computers are worth their weight.... === bimberi waited 9 months [03:39] Yeah, I'm trying to find a good Ubuntu affiliate to buy a pc from [03:39] my fiance is going to switch to Ubuntu wether she likes it or not lol. [03:39] whether* [03:40] we don't have any affiliates locally - working on it though - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/UbuntuFriendlyNotebooks === bimberi didn't wait 9 months actually. It was 8.5 months before i decided to apply. Then it was 2 weeks to the next CC meeting :) [03:42] hrmmm [03:42] btw, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/UbuntuFriendlySuppliers is work-in-progress to broaden the scope of that AustralianTeam initiative [03:43] groovix and system76 both look good. [03:53] hey [03:54] Riddell just brought to my attention, Kubuntu has been using the GNU/Linux distribution for everyone...i thought we had some slick ones earlier with that...he beat us to it ;) === derekmorton25 [n=derek@ip70-173-237-86.fv.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:31] hello again all. [04:33] oh lord [04:33] you again" [04:33] ;) [04:33] lol [04:33] Hrmm... I'm looking at Suse's website. [04:33] don't ever look at SuSe's wiki, as it is as proprietary as the rest of it === darkmatter_ [n=darkmatt@206-163-250-11.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:34] I think that Suse actually meets the need of being able to purchase a boxed set with a manual and all, though. [04:34] And plus I love beagle. [04:34] lol [04:35] I'm just looking anyway [04:35] but I don't mind suse being all proprietary and all that. [04:35] But I AM going to download apparmor for my pc [04:36] where can you purchase SuSe at around you? [04:37] i used to be able to go into Best Buy and buy it, and CompUSA...but not anymore [04:37] since Novell bought it from the Germans, all the stores stopped selling it that carried Microsoft Products [04:37] No where, but I CAN get it in a box with a manual, which is something I feel is relatively important for a home user to have. [04:39] I still doubt that anything could handle repos like Ubuntu does (except for Linspire and such) [04:40] But it gives me another distro to play with. === adamant1988 loves his ubuntu though [04:43] you can do the same for Ubuntu on sites taht sell it like that also i believe [04:45] Show me a site that sells it in English... I'd like to get a copy for my fiance probably. === hybrid [n=666@easyubuntu/supporter/hybrid] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:02] DOWNLOAD IT adamant1988 [05:02] ;) [05:02] lol [05:02] she would need the manual... as is I'm going to have to be the manual for her. === hybrid_ [n=666@dpc6745217221.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:05] https://help.ubuntu.com [05:05] there is her manual === darkmatter_ [n=darkmatt@206-163-250-11.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:53] http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=42307 [06:56] http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=42234 [06:56] wow [06:57] that second one is impressive [06:57] no comment [06:57] i did get a kick out of the "Linux for human beings....and robots" though [06:58] lol yeah that was pretty cool. [06:58] -_- I'm downloading the sled 10 isos... [06:59] You can tell Ubuntu has overwhelming qualities when I get a knot in my stomach from downloading another iso and thinking of using it =\ [07:00] sled? [07:00] yeah SUSE LINUX ENTERPRISE DESKTOP [07:00] oooh i about used my ops on you ;) [07:00] lol i was kicked out of a channel once for using Ubuntu [07:01] But I've seen the screenshots, I've got the itch now, and I have to scratch. lol. [07:01] liberals [07:01] That way I can dismiss it as betaware and go back to distributing Ubuntu CDs [07:01] thats how SuSe sucks you in..it looks pretty..and yast2 is sweet and what not..but enjoy rpm headaches [07:02] Actually I'm more interested in the interface alterations [07:02] the "computer" menu is a subtle but big change, and I'd like to see how it's implimented. [07:02] I figure I'll use it on my laptop for a week before I reinstall ubuntu. [07:03] I just did a clean Ubuntu install last night so it's not like I'm losing any important data. [07:03] Kubuntu and thats that === adamant1988 doesn't like kde. === nixternal doesn't like you then ;) === nixternal pets his kubuntu [07:05] lol [07:06] sorry kubuntu just isn't as inviting as gnome [07:06] kde* [07:06] hmmm [07:06] my kubuntu is beautiful [07:06] it runs so smoothe, and it is solid [07:06] solid gold baby [07:07] I know but it's just not as inviting to me =\ I like simplicity and effectiveness. [07:07] all that polish has it's place, but not on my desktop. I'll probably never touch XGL even if it comes included in edgy [07:08] you think gnome is simplistic? [07:08] xfce is simplistic === adamant1988 likes XFCE too === nixternal too ;) [07:09]