=== porkpie [n=mark@cpc1-bsfd5-0-0-cust929.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-server [12:21] Hi ...I have tried to install ubuntu server on 2 compaq dl360's so far and they have both failed when detecting cdrom. Can anyone advise please === toggles [n=toggles@pool-70-17-178-205.pitt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [01:34] anyone know why `apt-get install mon` fails when it's listed here http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/admin/mon === whaq|off [i=whaq@203.130.197.106] has joined #ubuntu-server === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-server [02:02] ahhh, it's ~x86, i see.. === toggles [n=toggles@pool-70-17-178-205.pitt.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-server ["Leaving"] === truz_`24 [n=truz_`24@74.129.166.232] has joined #ubuntu-server === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-server === whaq|off [i=whaq@203.130.197.106] has joined #ubuntu-server === WebWeasel [n=WebWease@CPE-65-27-17-90.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-server === WebWeasel [n=WebWease@CPE-65-27-17-90.kc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-server [] === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-server === kermitX_ [n=kermit@unaffiliated/cxg] has joined #ubuntu-server === whaq|off is now known as whaq === Forth [n=forth@i03v-195-36-149-108.d4.club-internet.fr] has joined #ubuntu-server === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@ubuntu/member/toadstool] has joined #ubuntu-server === tsume [n=tsume@zanshin.tsumelabs.com] has joined #ubuntu-server === beezly [n=andy@terrapin.shef.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-server === Zambezi [i=Hideit@dns-cache2.tixit.se] has joined #ubuntu-server === screeb [n=screeb@pons2.rez-rennes.supelec.fr] has joined #ubuntu-server === uniq [n=frode@ubuntu/member/frode] has joined #ubuntu-server === whaq|away [i=whaq@203.130.197.106] has joined #ubuntu-server === lbm [n=lbm@82.192.173.92] has joined #ubuntu-server === RShadow [n=sbunn@211.209.126.124] has joined #Ubuntu-Server === DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-server === thefish_ [n=thefish@dsl-fixed-62-69-44-72.surfdsl.murphx.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-server === TrioTorus [n=TrioToru@213.219.169.193] has joined #ubuntu-server === spike|wrk is now known as spike === kermitX_ [n=kermit@unaffiliated/cxg] has joined #ubuntu-server === DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-server === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-server === RemoteViewer [n=555@stan.physik.fu-berlin.de] has joined #ubuntu-server === J_P [n=jp@200.146.37.219] has joined #ubuntu-server [01:48] hi all === TrioTorus [n=TrioToru@213.219.169.193] has joined #ubuntu-server === whaq|away [i=whaq@203.130.197.106] has joined #ubuntu-server === studprog [n=studprog@zaira.imada.sdu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-server [02:08] Hi ... i don't know if this is the right channel - but a request in #ubuntu came out silent.... I'm looking for some help about preseeding an Ubuntu Dapper installation ... === whaq|away is now known as whaq [02:09] anybody here gurus in debian-installer preseeding syntax [02:10] Hi studprog [02:10] hi ;-) [02:10] never tried myself, but there was a good article on the subject here : http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/394 [02:12] lionelp: yep ... i have noticed it -- but debconf-get-selections --installer came out with the following err :debconf: DbDriver "di_questions": could not open /var/log/installer/cdebconf/questions.dat [02:13] studprog: you should sudo debconf-... [02:13] and just running debconf-get-selections just posts all components set with "select" as option ... [02:13] lionelp: i did [02:15] strange, it works here... [02:15] the folder /var/log/installer/cdebconf does not exsist ---i think it is removed by the installer afterwards (there was a security issue previously about the fact that the root password was readable in the questions file after installation)) [02:15] lionelp: you run dapper ? - or have you upgraded from e.g. breezy [02:16] dapper [02:16] I can check on an upgraded breezy [02:17] ok ...thats odd ... i'm running a newly installed dapper - and there is no cdebconf dir ... only 3 files - partman, syslog and version [02:17] It also works on an upgraded breezy [02:18] hum... you are right ! [02:18] (it was not a stable dapper when it was installed on my desktop) [02:18] ahh... [02:19] so all i have from the installer files is logging by something called Ubiquity === lionelp stupid [02:20] anyways ... what i really would like was to have some command in the preseed file that would let me know that the file actually was read.. [02:20] studprog: with Ubiquity, be do not run Debian Installer [02:20] so... [02:20] :) [02:21] ?? [02:21] Ubiquity is not debian installer [02:22] If you want to have preseed from debian installer, i think you should install with the alternate cd (which installs with Debian Installer) [02:22] ahh ... i though Ubiquity was some sort of logger .... so it's an installer ?? .... all pages i've seen state that ubuntu either uses debian-installer syntax or something called Kickstart... [02:23] yes, it is the new graphical installer run from the desktop-cd [02:24] ok -- but i'm installing via PXE -- and i get the text-based installer ... is that d-i or does ubi* also have a textmode ? [02:29] d-i [02:29] ubi is graphical [02:29] ok -- so i should focus on finding the right commands for d-i [02:30] I am not sure I understand what you mean === TrioTorus [n=TrioToru@213.219.169.193] has joined #ubuntu-server [02:44] sorry for the delay - a coworker had some questions [02:45] lionelp: well -- i'll go browse the web for some example preseed files (using the d-i syntax) then === Drac[Server] [n=Draccy@c-71-232-34-36.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-server === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-server === thefish [n=thefish@unaffiliated/thefish] has joined #ubuntu-server === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-server === screeb [n=screeb@pons2.rez-rennes.supelec.fr] has joined #ubuntu-server [03:44] hi ! === Yagisan [n=jamie@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-server [03:55] I don't have lot of feadback on the idea of packaging e-smith for ubuntu (a web based server managment interface) [03:56] is there anyone interested in this project here? :) [03:58] Hi screeb [03:58] hmm ... now it seems that i got past the language selection -- but i've also noticed that my preseed file isn't read ... i use the following parameter to invoke the preseed : preseed/url=http://installserver/preseed -- but from the accesslogs i can see that it's never read during install ;-// [03:59] e-mith is a Linux distribution, I do not understand your will to package. package what ? [03:59] I may be missing something :) [04:00] I want to package all administration tools of this distribution and adapt to ubuntu [04:01] screeb: e-smith is now called SME Server by the way :) [04:01] yes [04:04] dont have much time now [04:04] by! === jinzo [n=jinzo@86.61.72.158] has joined #ubuntu-server === thefish [n=thefish@unaffiliated/thefish] has joined #ubuntu-server === sharms [n=mindwarp@cpe-24-208-242-169.twmi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-server [04:47] anyone here know someone who runs security.ubuntu.com that can let them know http is down? === whaq [i=whaq@203.130.197.106] has joined #ubuntu-server === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-server [05:15] Hi ...I have tried to install ubuntu server on 2 compaq dl360's so far and they have both failed when detecting cdrom. Can anyone advise please [05:17] hm [05:18] ivoks:it a bit of a strange problem [05:18] g3? [05:18] let me check [05:19] ivoks:dam I can't tell === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-server [05:20] ok, no prob [05:20] so, it boots instalation and then doesn't detect CD? [05:20] cdrom [05:20] yeah [05:20] that's SCSI or ATAPI cdrom? [05:20] scsi [05:21] ad, i see [05:21] sec [05:21] ok === nihilocrat [n=nil@moodle.guilford.edu] has joined #ubuntu-server [05:22] support for scsi cdrom is inside module [05:23] try modprobing sd_mod after boot [05:23] ctrl+alt+f2 [05:23] modprobe sd_mod [05:25] OK ..I will try it now [05:26] can you do it while on IRC? [05:27] yeah [05:27] great === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@125.212.117.61] has joined #ubuntu-server [05:34] ivoks:whats the best version of ubuntu to use ? [05:34] 6.06 [05:35] where can I download it from [05:35] ubuntu.com/download [05:38] ivoks:is it the alternate iso [05:39] it's ubuntu-server iso [05:39] what processor is that? [05:40] xeon with em64t? [05:40] ivoksPIII [05:40] then http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-server-i386.iso [05:41] OK ...I have that one ...I am just burning a new copy [05:42] why/ [05:43] ivoks:because I have scratched the other copy [05:43] nearly done === Ries [n=Ries@200.63.220.5] has joined #ubuntu-server [05:44] Hi Ries [05:44] never knew there was this channel!!! ppl on #ubuntu didn't tell!!!! [05:44] hey porkpie [05:44] ivoks:Ries is a big fan of ubuntu [05:45] ok, but this isn't support channel [05:45] I know [05:46] ivoks: well... on #ubuntu there are 800 ppl.... 750 are lurking.... and from teh 50 ppl about 1% answers questions about server :) [05:47] I prefere to make this a real ubuntu-server channel :) I had a question yesterday about software raid1, LVM and XFS.... noone could answer :S [05:47] however it works now [05:52] ivoks:just booting into ubuntu now .....after the kernel has uncompressed....I use ctrl+alt+f2 ? [05:53] just follow instalation and when it fails, then ctrl+alt+f2 [06:00] ivoks:Hmm! tried the modprobe from the console but it just return to a #prompt [06:00] that's ok [06:01] now run dmesg [06:01] and check if it detected CDROM [06:03] Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods [06:03] run lspci [06:04] and report what SCSI controller you have [06:05] Hmm! strange no SCSI controller [06:05] take a better look [06:06] it wouldn't boot from SCSI cdrom if there's no SCSI controller :) [06:07] RAID bus controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53C1510 (rev 02) [06:07] 'lshw | less' might also help [06:08] I find it handy for figuring out what's on my system [06:08] symbios logic... [06:08] ok [06:09] nihilocrat:lshw doesn't work [06:09] Ries: is XFS worth checking out for a LAMP server? [06:10] 'doesn't work' as in it doesn't exist or as in it doesn't tell you anything about the cdrom? [06:10] nihilocrat: I didn't select LAMP from the installation menu... [06:10] porkpie: try modprobe sym53c8xx [06:10] I didn't either, i'm just saying [06:10] porkpie: and sym53c416 [06:10] A server whose purpose is a LAMP setup [06:10] nihilocrat: I basicly did the partitioning myself for both drives... setup RAID1 on the drives... on one pertition I used EXT3, on teh other LVM and XFS... but it worked from the installer [06:11] nihilocrat: this is going to be a webserver... postgresql, apache, mysql, and that sort of tools.. [06:11] exactly [06:11] oh, wait a sec, I think I might have gotten acronyms mixed up [06:11] Yeah, I did, I thought you were talking about ZFS [06:12] Sun's newfangled fs [06:12] ivoks:I have a flashing cursor at the monent [06:13] porkpie: how about now? [06:14] No still flashing === sharms [n=mindwarp@cpe-24-208-242-169.twmi.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-server ["Leaving"] [06:14] that means you are back in comandline or it's working? === A-Kaser [n=francois@138.165-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-server [06:16] nihilocrat: nope... I never heard of ZFS even :) [06:16] ah [06:16] It's relatively(?) new, and is supposed to be a 'next generation' FS [06:17] Which has an extra layer of abstraction from the hardware which is supposed to make it a lot easier for people (particularly sysadmins) to manage [06:17] I forget the details, I read about it two weeks or so ago [06:19] gtg [06:19] ivoks:I had to ctrl+c to get back to # [06:19] bye all [06:19] porkpie: check with dmesg what happend [06:19] i got to go now [06:19] bye [06:20] nihilocrat: Ahhh nice.... I need XFS because it suppose to handle large files better then raiser or ext3.... [06:22] I am slowly doing research in more 'enterprise'-oriented server stuff as I'm being handed higher-traffic and higher-uptime services [06:22] nihilocrat: I was doing to same.... hence I picked LVM and XFS [06:22] "higher traffic" aq ? [06:22] as ? [06:22] Well [06:23] currently in a default situation XFS outperforms EXT3 at ease..... 60MB/S for a disk to disk copy.... while EXT3 does about 30-40MB/sec [06:23] LVM can scale nice..... but I never really did work with it on a live server [06:23] We want to move our webserver from Windows Server 2003 to Linux, and we're also running Moodle which is going to go into production in the fall [06:23] Both of these boxes are VMs on a VMWare machine [06:24] I'm the "go to" linux guy after the former "go to" linux guy went off to do higher-paying things [06:25] Ooo.. I am looking into XEN, http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/ [06:25] for some of my customer needs.... [06:25] I want to use one of the old servers to run Xen and play around with it [06:25] Then maybe put low-traffic stuff on it [06:26] and customers that need ssh...... [06:26] As well as a Free/Open/NetBSD install to see what it's like :P [06:26] for freebsd stuff then porkpie knows about it.... [06:26] really [06:26] that's cool [06:26] yes.... he runs a couple of freebsd servers.... [06:30] I think one of the cooler parts of virtualization is that it lets you run testing servers without requiring more hardware [06:30] that is true [06:31] It makes configuration very modular, so you get the advantages of pizzaboxing without all the waste [06:33] and you can move virtual server from one server to another one [06:33] juste by scp [06:33] so if one of the virtual server become too big [06:33] it's easy to migrate it === whaq|away [i=whaq@203.130.197.106] has joined #ubuntu-server === MystaMax [n=mystamax@jimbo.angelica.com] has joined #ubuntu-server === spike is now known as spike|gone === shachaf [n=Shachaf@line133-191.adsl.actcom.co.il] has joined #ubuntu-server [07:32] A-Kaser: do you have experiances with xen? [07:32] very few [07:32] more with vserver === Ries is looking up vserver..... [07:37] :) [07:40] A-Kaser: this one, right? http://linux-vserver.org/ [07:40] yes === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-server === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-server [07:44] I think I have something to play with.... A-Kaser since you know the two .... what would you currently recommend xen or vserver? [07:44] Xen have more features [07:45] and the network layer is more dedicated to the slave server [07:45] but vserver is very light [07:45] so I think it's not vserver vs xen but do you need SSH access or dedicated network layer [07:46] I didn't read upon them well... I am interested in it to run it.... [07:47] in a vserve you cannot change the ip address [07:47] the iptables [07:48] and you cannot change your kernel [07:50] A-Kaser: that means I can't run apache on port 80 on two different vservers, right? But it is a good solution to run postgresql, apache and maby other services in different vservers. Is that a correct conclusion? [07:50] no you can [07:50] (assuming the machine has one interface and no virtual interfaces). [07:50] it's a real virtualazing [07:51] on my workstation I use it to test witch apache1 + php4 [07:51] and another vserver to test apache2 + php5 [07:51] and another to test jboss on port 80 [07:52] each vserver have an simple IP alias [07:52] as you can add with "ip addr add 1.2.3.4/32 dev eth0" [07:52] you need to configure the master vserver to be sure if you have an apache on it [07:53] Ahhh yeaaa indeed... so each vserver operates on a alias..... I understand... [07:53] it didn't take all the IP alias to it [07:57] got to go home cool and thanks [07:57] bye :) [07:57] drink time ) [07:57] :) === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-server === A-Kaser is now known as Aka[AW] === porkpie [n=mark@cpc1-bsfd5-0-0-cust929.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-server === redondos [n=redondos@190.48.10.251] has joined #ubuntu-server === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-server === lbm [n=lbm@82.192.173.92] has joined #ubuntu-server === redondos [n=redondos@190.48.10.251] has joined #ubuntu-server === redondos [n=redondos@190.48.10.251] has joined #ubuntu-server === redondos [n=redondos@190.48.10.251] has joined #ubuntu-server === redondos_ [n=redondos@190.48.10.251] has joined #ubuntu-server === whaq|away is now known as whaq === lotnos [n=test@219.83.56.37] has joined #ubuntu-server === Aka[AW] is now known as A-Kaser === lotnos [n=test@219.83.56.37] has left #ubuntu-server [] === J_P [n=jp@200.146.37.219] has left #ubuntu-server [] === terje [n=joem@vampira.scare.org] has joined #ubuntu-server [11:51] hi, in fedora I use 'service iptables stop' to disable my firewall. How is this done in ubuntu? [11:52] and in general is there a service management command? [11:55] if you install the package named 'debian-helper-scripts' you get the 'service' command. [11:55] among others. [11:57] terje ^^ (just to trigger hiliting) [11:58] sweet, thanks uniq [11:58] you're welcome. [11:59] terje:just use shorewall :)