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jronthanks for all the help guys, slowly getting this down :P12:09
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gatekeeperiain_: is this what you are after? dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:10
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angasuleiain_: it could be because you're using a different resolution, so check the monitor knobs, too12:11
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albert_hola12:12
iain_gatekeeper:  and angasule thanks guys12:12
iain_:)12:12
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angasulenp12:13
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ChanikaI'm in the middle of installing dapper for the first time on my laptop... why will it only let me create ext2 partitions, not ext3 or reiserfs?12:14
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intelikeyChanika you can add a journal afterwards.   as to your question, idk.  guess it's just acting "window'ish"...  heh12:16
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elvirolohi all12:16
elvirolodoes anyone use amarok ? musicbrainz tagging doesn't work here12:17
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Chanikaintelikey: yuck. I'll just use cfdisk to set up my partitions once again... kinda silly that kubuntu still doesn't have a usable partitioner12:17
abattoirChanika: using the Live CD Installer?12:18
Chanikaabattoir: yeah12:18
abattoirChanika: oh, ok then, i guess you'd have to do that12:18
elvirolo?12:18
intelikeyChanika it does have a usable partitioner.   partition has nothing to do with file-system  mketfs -j /dev/blah12:18
intelikeyerrr mke2fs12:19
abattoirif you have the alternate cd, that handles different types of partition systems12:19
gatekeeperChanika: blame GParted I think that is what it uses12:19
ChanikaI'm not sure I trust a graphical program to set up my partitions safely anyways. don't want anything happening to my gentoo install :)12:19
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abattoir*filesystems12:19
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Chanikaintelikey: if it won't let me choose anything other than ext2, I don't consider it usable12:19
intelikeyChanika you missed the point.  that's not the partitioner.  that's the formater12:20
Chanikaabattoir: ahh. maybe I'll download that too then. but the livecd is so pretty!12:20
Chanikaintelikey: in the gui they're mixed together, though12:20
intelikeyyeah i know.  and i hate that.12:20
abattoirChanika: indeed, else you could format the partition using your fav filesystem separately and then install12:20
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intelikeyif you switch to a console you can partition and them format as you like.  but the installer will fail because it is not the app doing the work... thus i consider that a broken installer.   "window'ish"12:21
Chanikaoh, and it detected my wireless nicely, which amazed me... but dhcp's not working. maybe my neighbours clued in12:21
free-son-Splease i've some error with a ./make.sh prefetch like this one: wget error in lfs/apache !! please where can i found the version request of apache i need to place it manualy in /cache/  ?12:21
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Chanikaintelikey: it'll fail?? eew! the breezy insstaller was fine with me just picking a pre-set-up partiiton12:22
intelikeyhmmm detected your wireless card...  didn't detect my usb printer.12:23
free-son-Si'm compiling an ipcop 1.4.1012:23
intelikeyChanika yep.12:23
gatekeeperdoesn't the alt version of the dapper iso do that?12:23
jroncan anyone recommend a good app to kill tasks? ps -x isnt cutting it =( i need point and click12:23
abattoirjron:  xkill ?12:23
jronabattoir: i need a way to kill stuff running in the background, not just windows =(12:24
intelikeyhoary detected the printer.  hp pcs 750    not that ancient...   but dapper isn't able to find it.   althouth  lswh see's it just fine  and so does  the gui hardware manager.   cups is clueless about it tho12:24
intelikeyjron xtop12:25
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jronintelikey: not seeing that in the repo =(12:26
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intelikeyjron should be installed....  it's part of the psutils or something.   or just "top" or even  "sudo kill -9 `pidof blah` "12:27
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jronintelikey: that is what i want to avoid, i want something like tastmanager for windows =(12:27
jrontired of ps-x kill -9 56774 =(12:28
OODjron: ksysguard ?12:28
Chanikawait... it does allow me to format as ext3. after choosing ext2. silly thing12:28
jpatrickjron: Ctrl-Escape12:28
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gatekeeperjron: KSysguard ?12:28
intelikeyjron so type 'sudo xtop' and see what happens12:29
jroncommand not found. intelikey12:29
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intelikeyChanika like i said the very first time.... the partition type has nothing to do with the fs type.   you could make an ntfs partition and mke2fs -j on it.  and it would be ext3 with an ntfs signature...12:30
jronthanks gatekeeper, ksysguard was just what i was looking for.12:31
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DrBairi have a system with many missing or damaged system files... anyway I can make dpkg go through a repair the damage?12:32
gatekeeperjron: excellent off to bed now good luck :-)12:32
jronthank you much =)12:32
unix_infidelDrBair: how are they damaged?12:32
unix_infideland which files?12:32
gatekeeperjron: most welcome :-)12:32
unix_infideljust the disk in general?12:32
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intelikeyDrBair yeah. well sorta    like this.12:33
intelikeyapt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install $(dpkg -S LC_MESSAGES | cut -d: -f1 | tr ', ' '\n' | sort -u)12:33
DrBairunix_infidel: damaged by a failed drive.. I was able to pick up most the pieces12:34
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DrBairinitrd is corrupt... so the system doesn't boot so well12:34
DrBairbut chrooting seems to be running smoothly12:34
unix_infidelDrBair: so most of your configuration and essential non system files are backed up?12:34
intelikeyman mkinitrd     or   man mkinitramfs12:34
intelikeyDrBair ^12:35
DrBairunix_infidel: home directory is safe12:35
jmichaelxi recently install the 686 kernel on a few of my PCs... but today i saw the update notifier in the panel, i clicked it , and among other things, it is wanting to install the i386 kernel again, why is this?12:35
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jmichaelxwell, i guess i'll see, i told it to update everything12:38
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jmichaelxshould a person un-install the i386 kernel after the i686 kernel is installed?12:39
OODno, you can have both kernels installed12:39
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jmichaelxok12:40
jmichaelxthat really confused me12:40
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zeiothuf xD12:41
zeiothYA TA12:42
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diegocoll12:44
diegohheheh12:44
unix_infidelDrBair: then you should be just fine with backing up your configuration stuff and just reinstalling or using your backup archives to restore the system?12:44
arseniqi cant play the mp3 files on my ntfs partition what can be the reason?12:44
unix_infidelarseniq: you should be able to, if they are wma or some proprietary format then they might not play.12:44
unix_infidelyou need to download specific codecs for those.12:45
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arseniqno its all my mp3 archive12:45
unix_infidelarseniq: what media player.12:45
unix_infideltry it with mplayer and see what errors it gives you.12:45
arseniqalso i copied one of them to my desktop but didnt play12:45
arseniqplayer is amarok12:45
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crimsundid you install libxine-extracodecs?12:46
arseniqit plays the ogg file in example folder12:46
unix_infidelwhen you mean it didnt play....the spectrum analyzer showed activity?12:46
unix_infidelbut you dont get sound?12:46
arseniqno no it skips the file12:46
crimsunarseniq: what's the output from ``dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs|grep ^ii''?12:47
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arseniqby the way kaffeine also doesnt play the files12:47
arseniqcrimsun: output is nothing12:48
crimsunarseniq: then you won't be able to play mp3s in amarok by default.12:48
crimsun!restricted > arseniq12:48
Cntryboy_Does anyone know if linux has a linux washer sorta like window washer, that cleans all recent files, cookies and everything?12:48
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arseniqmp3 is a restricted format though wow crazy12:49
jpatrickCntryboy_: there's a program called Kleansweep12:49
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Cntryboy_jpatrick: it won't clear the var/cache/archive folder though right?12:49
jpatrickCntryboy_: apt-cache clean12:50
Cntryboy_yah playing poker didn't have time to think12:50
Cntryboy_oops sorry12:50
Cntryboy_i mean, I don't wanna clear that folder12:50
Cntryboy_will kleansweep clean it or not12:50
jpatrickCntryboy_: not unless you tell it to12:50
brandon_http://www.lyrics007.com/Coldplay Lyrics/White Shadows Lyrics.html12:50
Cntryboy_jpatrick: kk thx man12:50
brandon_can anyone view these lyrics using konqueror?12:50
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jpatrickbrandon_: i can12:51
brandon_you can?12:51
brandon_they show up in konq?12:51
brandon_using what version of kde?12:51
jpatrickYes12:51
jpatrick3.5.212:51
brandon_aaaah12:51
jpatrickbrandon_: http://www.lyriki.com/index.php?title=Coldplay12:52
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brandon_the point i'm kaing is that i'm finding that there are a lot of websites that don't work right in konq anymore12:53
brandon_and 3.5.2 is not the latest version12:53
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brandon_i can open these links in firedink or opera and they work12:54
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arseniqhmm the document sais i should be using synaptic12:55
jmichaelxwhen i upgraded to 3.5.3 on my desktop, some things quit working.... the video slowed way down, and screen savers would no longer work at all...12:55
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sotiredugh i am having one problem after another today12:57
OODjmichaelx: the screensavers not working is a bug, but there's a fix to it12:57
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sotiredall of a sudden anything i download or unzip doesnt appear in kde...only in the konsole12:57
jmichaelxOOD: i am glad to know that. i actually mentioned it to riddell when i first encountered it12:57
sotiredwhats goin on?12:57
OODjmichaelx: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=6212.012:58
LjLsotired: err, what do you mean "appear in KDE"?12:58
grizzlyusb automounting permission problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1778712:58
LjL(and "appear in konsole")12:58
jmichaelxOOD: the biggest issue, though, was what it did to my video. now i am scared of it... i wound up having to reinstall kubuntu12:58
OODjmichaelx: i haven't had any video problems, haven't heard about this problem either12:59
sotiredLjL: on my desktop or in konqeoror the new files dont appear. But if i goto the directory from a terminal (konsole) i can see the fioles12:59
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Cntryboygrr i hate dialup12:59
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Cntryboywho told me about kleansweep?12:59
jmichaelxOOD: i think i will leave 3.5.3 alone.... ill upgrade down the road some time when the next KDE is released01:00
LjLsotired: well, if they don't appear on the desktop, it's because you're not saving them on the desktop. in konqueror, of course, you would have to go to the correct directory (i.e. the one the file was saved in) - can you positively say you're doing that?01:00
sotiredi am saving them there...they are there01:00
CntryboyDoes perl come with kubuntu?01:00
jpatrickCntryboy: yes01:00
CntryboyTrying to get kleansweep working, it tries to load with bouncing icon but never opens01:00
Cntryboyokay then, how can i check if I have kde lib. files01:01
jpatrickCntryboy: you ran it in konsole?01:01
Cntryboyjpatrick: nah under system I think01:01
sotiredljl: even if i unzip a something...i can only see the new files from a terminal in that directory...if i look in the same directory from the gui i dont see anything but the files that were already there01:01
Cntryboykonsole works01:01
Cntryboybut, it doesn't by icon in systems01:01
jpatrick:/01:01
sotiredljl: i am 100% sure i am using the correct directories01:01
jpatrickCntryboy: check the kmenu entry's command01:02
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LjLsotired: i assume you've tried pressing F5 to refresh the contents in konqueror.  perhaps you've created/unzipped those files as root?01:02
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sotiredI've refreshed the desktop to no avail. and i am not doing any of these things as root01:02
Cntryboyjpatrick: how do I do that, ususally I can right click files, but the icons in system just says edit, which doesn't show me anything01:02
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LjLsotired: what if you explicitely create a file in konqueror or on the desktop by using the right-click menu?01:03
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sotiredthat works01:03
jpatrickCntryboy: should show it01:03
LjLsotired: can you do a "ls -l" from inside the desktop directory (or any directory where you have files that don't show up), and paste the results into the pastebin?01:03
Cntryboyjpatrick: i copied it to desktop and went to properties and it says: kdesu kleansweep01:03
Cntryboyfor command that is01:03
jpatrickah01:04
jpatrickmaybe kdesu's failing01:04
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Cntryboyeverything else works okay01:04
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Cntryboyworked this time odd01:04
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Cntryboyi had to enter root pw though, which is okay, maybe it did fail the first try01:05
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sotiredLjL: kxdocker-1.1.4a.tar.bz2 is the file i cant see, as an example http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1779001:06
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CntryboyI'm kinda scared to use this because I could wipe out files I need lol01:08
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LjLsotired: it's quite weird really.01:09
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h3sp4wnCntryboy: You won't cause that much trouble I bet01:09
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Cntryboyh3sp4wn: what do ya mean01:10
natan-if i have a bash script i want to run all the time what is the best way to implement that?01:10
sotiredljl: dont see anything off01:10
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sotired?01:10
h3sp4wnCntryboy: Things rarely go wrong with kubuntu01:10
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arseniqi also see tv like scanlines on all images is this normal?01:11
LjLsotired: the ls output looks alright. have you tried just logging off and on again on KDE? perhaps it's just a temporary quirk of some sorts01:11
arseniqsame scanlines on avi files too01:12
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h3sp4wnCntryboy: What are the files you need for ?01:12
sotiredljl: tried that :) ...but ill try again01:12
LjLnatan-: if you only need it to do something at certain times (perhaps every minute), use cron. otherwise... dunno. what kind of thing would that be?01:12
natan-hmmm cron01:13
natan-what is that?01:13
LjL!cron01:13
ubotucron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. There is a decent howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm01:13
natan-basically i have a script that downloads something to /tmp/ for another program to read01:13
natan-and i need execute it just once on startup01:13
h3sp4wnTry anacron over cron (is yourmachine is off sometimes)01:14
natan-or i guess i could just have it run with no while loop and have cron take care of it01:14
natan-its always on basically01:14
LjLthen if you only need it to run at startup you don't need it running all the time, do you?01:14
natan-atleast when i need this to run01:14
h3sp4wnThat would slow the system down01:14
natan-i supose not :D01:14
natan-well i didn't know there was this cron :D01:14
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h3sp4wnanacron is more powerful than cron01:15
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h3sp4wn(if your machine may be shutdown at anytime it finishes any jobs)01:15
LjLif you just want it to be run *once* at startup, you should probably look at making it an /etc/init.d service.01:15
h3sp4wnYou could use anacron to start it when the system first starts01:16
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h3sp4wnjust set it to be run at 3am (and then when your machine starts in the morning it will be run01:17
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h3sp4wnnatan:  You could run it all the time and add lot of other useful things to the script01:18
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natan-hmmm01:18
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natan-well i need it to preform its task every 30 seconds01:19
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natan-cron seems to have a time system that wont let me do that :P01:19
h3sp4wnWhy not ?01:19
h3sp4wnIt can run every minute01:19
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roob!restricted01:20
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:20
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h3sp4wnnatan: 1 * * * * http://www.yourdomain.com/your_script_to_cron.php01:21
h3sp4wnnatan: I think that should run it every minute but I may be wron01:22
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h3sp4wnnatan: Maybe try using at set at to do it every 30 seconds01:23
h3sp4wnnatan: Anyway I have to go cya01:23
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KatmandoIs there any advantage to installing ubuntu then installing KDE.  Instead if just going to Kubuntu?01:24
DarkAuditKatmando: you'll get a lot of redundant applications installed01:25
Katmandoalso what is the best way to have gnome-settings-daemon launch everytime I boot kubuntu.?01:26
KatmandoDarkAudit: Do you mean uneeded Gnome apps?01:26
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amadeus_yo, driz01:28
amadeus_what's up01:28
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roobhello all......i just added the universe and mulitverse repos...i followed this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu but im only getting like 15k packs...last time i did i got close to 18k01:29
rooband this is a fresh install and its saying there arnt any updates....when i installed it i was NOT connected to the internet01:30
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freakaWhat makes kubuntu different to installing any other linux dist with the latest kde?01:36
LjLfreaka: what makes any distro different from any other given distro? :)01:38
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LjLbesides kubuntu doesn't come with the latest kde ;) (though it's available)01:39
Jeff__some say it is better to install ubuntu then get KDE01:39
LjLthey say that? interesting01:39
Jeff__apparently Kububtu has some extra "fluf"01:40
LjLi guess you could do that if you don't mind having a mixture of gnome and kde apps in your menus and that kind of things01:40
LjLwell if you install the kubuntu-desktop package, then you're installing everything that kubuntu is composed of01:40
LjLthough installing the kde package alone would be another story01:40
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Jeff__not much going on tonight01:43
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natan-anyone have experience with cron?01:44
natan-!cron01:44
ubotucron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. There is a decent howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm01:44
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marcusQuick Question? Is there a way to change the background inside the K-menu?02:05
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osiriswhat were the issues some issues users were seeing with the 2.15.26 kernel ?02:10
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natan-so cool i have my router statistics streaming through knewsticker :D02:10
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gemidjyKmail keeps asking me for a mail server certificate, weather I should Accept it, and then accept it for good or for this session only...why doesn't it save the choice I make, Accept Forever ?02:12
marcus Is there a way to change the background inside the K-menu?02:12
LjLmarcus, no. you can change the color, but that will affect every menu'02:13
marcusljl: Thanks02:13
gemidjymarcus: there are kmenu replacements, which I consider very silly, like kbfx02:14
marcusljl: What if I wanted an image in every menu? Could that be possible?02:14
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LjLmarcus: not really, at least not that i know of02:15
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marcusljl: okay thank you02:15
marcusgemidjy: thank you too02:16
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LeeJunFandamn ICQ no worky.02:40
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brian_need to add a USB printer to my PC.  Lexmark Z517, which should work with some driver.  Anybody done this?  The printer doesn't show in the printer wizard.03:03
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goemon4hey all, i cant compile jack in Kubuntu, im trying to install something tht wont compile without sdl, but sdl wont compile...can anyone help?03:07
unix_infidelgoemon4: jack ships with kubuntu03:08
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goemon4? im sry what03:08
unix_infidel$ apt-cache search jackd03:08
unix_infideljackd - JACK Audio Connection Kit (server and example clients)03:08
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unix_infideljack is packaged for you already no need to compile.03:09
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sangohello03:10
goemon4i entered the command and got this03:11
goemon4jackd - JACK Audio Connection Kit (server and example clients)03:11
goemon4libasound2-plugins - ALSA library additional plugins03:11
sangoI recently downloaded kubuntu and unbuntu, and I am wondering if anyone can point me to articles that compare gnome and kde03:11
usp8riotanyone in here compile their kernels?03:12
unix_infidelgoemon4: now install it.03:12
goemon4what sdl (or that jackd thing)03:12
unix_infidelusp8riot: unless you are doing some SERIOUS optimization its not really necessary imho.03:12
usp8rioti just want to tinker03:12
usp8riotbut as they say, curiousity kills the cat, lol, it's probably what's gonna happen next reboot03:13
usp8riotis there a way to uninstall a kernel?03:14
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unix_infidelusp8riot: a kernel you've compiled or installed as a binary?03:14
usp8riotone i've just compiled03:15
usp8riotone site gives me the make, make modules, make install bit, another gives me one with the dpkg bit03:15
usp8rioti'm wondering which tutorials i should follow and if i used the wrong one03:16
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Yonevening everyone03:16
Yoni know that this is a linux channel and all, but i was wondering if anyone here knows how to bypass a firewall, and how to tunnel03:17
goemon4ok i just installed that jackd thing and idk what its supposed to do...im trying to compile and install sdl so i can install AlephOne (for marathon) and i kep getting a command that says "c compiler cant creat excutables" what do i need to fix that (btw i have gcc 4.0 installed)03:18
unix_infidelYon: there are tons of ways....and multiple protocols available for tunneling give it a quick google and ask a more specific question.03:19
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Yonalright, um, i tryed useing http-tunnel to work for torrents, i tryed with utorrent, bitcomet and azureous03:22
Yonit find peers and seeders but doesnt actually download03:23
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Yonim useing jap to surf the net, and it works really well03:24
skge@goemon4:: Still no luck?03:25
goemon4no, i get the same thing03:26
goemon4anyone have any ideas03:27
Yonunix_infidel: wat program can i use? have u heard of proxifier?03:29
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KazukisanI did a server install from the breezy ubuntu disc, then i did a dist upgrade to dapper and then did a apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and i edited xorg.conf to use vesa driver and now when i do a start x it tries to start it and my screen goes blank and then my monitor goes into resting state like its not reciving a signal and my computer i think freezes ????03:32
Kaihow do you create a user group?03:33
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LjLKai: man groupadd03:34
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SpAwNis it better to dl java from their site...i used the one off the ubuntu repo and azurues is acting all weird03:39
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osirisjave by hand worked nicely for azureus in mandriva03:43
osirisbut why do you want azureus ?03:43
SpAwNi like that torreent client03:43
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osirisunless the answer is safepeer, then you might as well use a non java client, cause azureus is a resource hog03:44
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SpAwNi just lost all 200 gigs of my stuff....need to redl some of it...03:44
SpAwNwell whats a nice feature rich torrent client ..with a gui?03:44
osirisi use the regular bittorrent with gui, and it runs way faster, and lighter than azureus03:46
SpAwNyea but doesnt have nearly the features of azureus03:46
osiriswhat feature is it that you are looking for03:46
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SpAwNwell i like being able to select how fast each torrent upload/downlaods at.....not just global but individual03:47
OODuse KTorrent03:47
SpAwNu can even use proxies and tor on azureus03:47
OODtor isn't meant for bittorrent you know?03:48
SpAwNOOD, i dont personaly use it for that03:48
SpAwNactualy its becoming a big problem for tor03:48
OODyea, i don't like azureus because it uses java03:48
SpAwNi only use tor for web adn irc....and anything else with socks03:48
SpAwNOOD, i love the client......03:49
OODsteels so much cpu03:49
SpAwNOOD, but i could go without the java stuff03:49
OODtry KTorrent03:49
SpAwNOOD, i have enought to go aroung03:49
SpAwNinstalling it now03:49
SpAwNactalu its instyalled03:49
OODBitcomet is a good windows app03:49
OODif you want you could run it in wine03:49
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osirisutorrent comes highly recomended too03:50
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OODthat has a linux binary too right?03:50
osirisi think03:51
SpAwNhmm03:51
SpAwNi have heard about utorrent being good....03:51
osirisi used azureus for a long time.  its only decent if you really want safepeer03:51
osiriswhich is nice for "high profile" downloads03:51
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SpAwNwell ktorrent is opened i opened a torrent with it...it just says stalled03:53
SpAwNstracker status says invalid responce03:53
osirisdid you adjust the port range to a non-standrard range and forward it through the router03:54
SpAwNosiris, no.........i will do that03:54
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ewhizanyone know if i can somehow change the size of the icons on my desktop or shrink them?03:56
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SpAwNwell its forwarded and set in the ktorrent options...still just doing nothing03:58
osirisdid you restart the torrent/client after the changes ?03:58
SpAwNnegadive...didnt know u had to03:59
osirismost likely that is it03:59
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SpAwNnope...still not going03:59
SpAwN....stalled...invalid responce03:59
osirissounds like the tracer isnt responding04:00
osiristracker04:00
HawkwindSpAwN: I had problems with ktorrent for a while.  Finally it just started working without changing configs04:00
SpAwNlol04:00
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osirisSpAwN, may i pm ?04:01
SpAwNsure04:01
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gaboxhola04:02
gaboxcomo les va?04:02
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gaboxhello04:03
Hawkwind!spanish04:03
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:03
gaboxthanks a lot!04:03
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BonBonTheJonhello04:07
BonBonTheJonI am going to reinstall kubuntu, what folders should I backup04:08
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HawkwindBonBonTheJon: That's totally up to you.  Depends on what YOU want to save04:09
Firebird8is it possible to set the resloution to 2048x768 without having to set it everytime you boot?04:09
HawkwindFirebird8: Using one monitor or two ?04:10
BonBonTheJonwhere would most of my settings be saved04:10
Firebird8204:10
HawkwindFirebird8: That is set in your xorg.conf04:10
SpAwNHawkwind, u where right....it just started working04:10
HawkwindFirebird8: I use the same resolution and it's set permanently04:10
Firebird8um04:10
Firebird8do you set that to ur primary monitor?04:10
HawkwindBonBonTheJon: In your users ~/ directory, and possibly in /etc04:11
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HawkwindFirebird8: You using Nvidia ?04:11
Firebird8ATI04:11
HawkwindOhhhh, I use Nvidia04:11
=== Hexidigital is new to kubuntu (i'm a gnome guy... ) can someone help me with the keyboard shortcuts location?
HawkwindI can post my xorg.conf though04:11
Firebird8im a gnome guy too...04:11
freakagnome never really worked for me04:11
Hexidigitali used to like gnome's layout... until i installed kubuntu... kde is so much better than it was in the past...04:12
Firebird8KDE kinda goes chomp chomp on performance...04:12
HawkwindFirebird8: http://pastebin.ca/8562904:12
Firebird8thx04:12
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HawkwindFirebird8: Hope it helps you04:13
HawkwindHexidigital: Have you looked in kcontrol ?04:13
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Firebird8nity04:14
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HexidigitalHawkwind: not yet04:14
Hexidigital:)04:14
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bur[n] eranyone know how to change the folder icon to the tango icon?  I'm not sure why the theme doesn't change it04:14
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HexidigitalHawkwind: nothing there (that i see about shortcuts)... i want to map ALT+R to open Konsole04:15
bur[n] erHexidigital: run "khotkeys"04:15
HawkwindHexidigital: It's there under peripherals I'm sure.  I don't use KDE so I don't know much about it04:15
Hexidigitalbur[n] er: thank you very much04:16
=== bur[n] er notes that Hawkwind is in kubuntu ;)
Hawkwindbur[n] er: I use Kubuntu, but I use E17 as my window manager :P04:16
=== bur[n] er uses compiz as his window manager
Hexidigitalbur[n] er: is khotkeys CLI? noting is opening up04:17
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Hexidigitals/noting/nothing04:17
bur[n] erHexidigital: it's gui... but it seems to be b0rked ;)  one other way...04:17
bur[n] errun "kcontrol" then go to "regional and accessibility" and go to "input actions"04:17
Hexidigitalah... thx again bur[n] er04:17
bur[n] ernp04:18
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bur[n] eranyone know what's up with KDE's icon changing?04:22
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fockergoemon4: do "sudo apt-get install libsdl" to get sdl.  It is a library for games that require it.04:24
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Chanikaum, so. my wireless (ipw2200 iirc) works perfectly in gentoo. my shiny new dapper install can show me a list of access points, but trying to connect to any of them fails, and I never see the wireless LED blink in kubuntu. where would I start looking for the problem?04:27
bur[n] erChanika: using "network-manager-kde" or something?04:28
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Chanikabur[n] er: hold on a sec, the laptop battery's dead...04:29
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Hobbsee!iwp220004:32
ubotuI know nothing about iwp220004:32
Hobbsee!ipw220004:33
ubotuI know nothing about ipw220004:33
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Hobbsee!ipw04:33
ubotuwifi is Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper04:33
HobbseeChanika: start with the wifi stuff there ^ i think there's ipw stuff there too04:33
Zairehow do you update the kernel from commandline?04:34
bur[n] erZaire: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:34
bur[n] er:)04:34
Chanikathanks04:34
Zairecool thx04:34
Chanikaipw2200 is indeed the module loaded. hmm04:36
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Chanikawlassistant takes my password but thinks I might not have enough permissions04:37
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Chanikabut there's an odd arrow beside the router called "default"04:38
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Chanikaand... pings!04:38
Chanika:D04:38
ChanikaI didn't do anything but it magically worked!04:38
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Chanika:)04:40
actinicwow lots of updates tonite04:40
ChanikaI love it when things magically work04:40
Chanikaspeaking of updates, kopete needs one; not sure if there's a ubuntu package out yet but iirc there's a debian one. AOL decided to mess with icq stuff.04:41
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Hexidigitalrunning kubuntu on breezy... besides mysql, should i be worried about anything else if i edit my sources.list file and upgrade to dapper?04:43
BonBonTheJonI havent checked, but what are some of the big updates04:43
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Chanikayay, I crashed the wireless assistant :P04:43
intelikeyanyone ever have cups fail flatly to find a usb printer?  i have a hp pcs-750  that hoary had no problem with, but ever sense i installed dapper (clean install) it acts like the usb hub is missing or something.   lshw sees the printer and so does the hardware manager   but cups is blind to it.     any sujestions ?04:45
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intelikeyok.  anyone know of a good printer setup application ?04:48
actinicupdates:  open office, 386 kernel, cups, python04:48
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DaSkreechChanika: Oh For you too?04:51
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Vexmasterhello all04:52
fockerintelikey: there is a printer setup wizard for cups in kubuntu04:52
fockerintelikey: go to K menu, system settings, printers, and click on add.04:53
bur[n] erintelikey: gnome's printer thing... or kprinter04:53
intelikeyfocker yes.   but it doesn't see the usb printer,  it doesn't see any printer on this system.04:53
fockerand then add printer/class04:53
fockerit sees mine, but it doesn't have a driver for mine04:54
intelikey;/04:54
fockerI did a google for my printer make/modela nd found some long instructions.04:54
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jimmy__sus peeps04:56
jimmy__sup04:56
=== DaSkreech peeps
jimmy__does the Asus a8v-deluxe and a8v-e deluxe suck or is it just my luck?04:58
intelikeybur[n] er the gAH'nome'  thing atm...  ive been removing and reinstalling crap hoping i would find the problem.04:59
jimmy__a8v-e deluxe came with non-operating PCI-e port and my 'faithful a8v deluxe just blew out on me04:59
bur[n] eri'm hoping gtk 2.10 and printing will be better04:59
jimmy__is Asus slipping or what?05:00
jimmy__I'm thinking asrock or Gigabyte05:00
TheHighChildjimmy__: Been hearing that alot the last 2 years05:00
Vexmastersup Jimmy05:00
jimmy__sup vex05:00
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VexmasterJimmy_ ASUS is def going down the tubes05:01
jimmy__I hear GB is faithful05:01
Vexmasterive been through 3 mobos in the last year05:01
jimmy__buying my 3rd05:02
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jimmy__hoping I can get them fixed through asus05:02
Vexmasterim thinkin of switching back to abit or MSI05:02
jimmy__I have no receipt05:02
Vexmasteriva had gigabit before05:02
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jimmy__GB offers more options than MSI correct?05:03
Vexmasterthere not bad mobos, and they come with a lot of cool fetures05:03
intelikeyibm05:03
jimmy__(i.e. custome start up graphics)05:04
jimmy__during boot05:04
Vexmasterthats hot05:04
jimmy__yeah, jimmy like05:04
SpAwN!restricted05:04
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:04
Vexmasterwhat about bios updates05:05
Vexmasterdo they kkep up?05:05
Vexmastersrry keep05:05
jimmy__no idea05:05
jimmy__never had one05:05
jimmy__and I havent heard anything05:05
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jimmy__all I know is that I need a mobo like yesterday05:06
Vexmasterthe last one i had was pretty cool, it had a backup bios in case one failed05:06
Vexmasterand all the pins were color coded05:07
Vexmastervery easy to install05:07
intelikeydr_willis is it quiet across the hall tonight ?05:07
Vexmasterno manual needed05:07
jimmy__I'm on my bro-in-law's laptop that I was suppost to put XP back on (put Kubuntu instead)05:07
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VexmasterYEah Jimmy!!!05:07
dr_willisMy dog is barking like crazy05:07
Vexmasterthats what im talking about05:07
jimmy__he started it up and freaked out05:08
Vexmasterlol05:08
jimmy__"what is this?"05:08
Vexmasterdoes he like it?05:08
dr_willisWindows Vista :)05:08
jimmy__LOVES it05:08
Vexmasterawsome05:09
jimmy__now he doesnt want XP05:09
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ChanikaLOL :)05:09
Chanikammmm, wireless....05:09
Vexmasteranother Konvert05:09
ChanikaI can watch myself type on two screens at once ;)05:09
Vexmastermmmmmm aircrack05:09
jimmy__now when he goes to church he is trying to convert them to Kubuntu05:09
DaSkreechHmm that sounds viral!!05:10
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jimmy__it does05:10
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intelikey<Vexmaster> another Konvert  <--- spoken like a real Kuser05:11
Vexmasterlol05:11
Chanikahmm. doing an upgrade over someone else's wireless might be kinda slow05:11
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Chanikaoh, and does anyone know of software for keeping my laptop and desktop in sync? my code is all in svn, but my konq bookmarks are always getting out of date...05:12
jimmy__does MSI have any mobo's out that you can use your own boot graphic?05:14
VexmasterI would go with GB if i was you Jimmy05:16
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dr_willisI recall some mb's that did that.. and thogh it was a silly idea. :)05:16
dr_willissaw anotehr that had 'voice post messages'05:17
dr_willisbut they only worked with the onboard sound card. freaked me out when i first heard them. :)05:17
intelikeyimbeded festival ?05:18
jimmy__yeah, my board does all that05:18
intelikeyor just a few sound files...05:18
jimmy__'DID" all that before thay both blew on me05:18
jimmy__yeah the chicks voice get annoying after awhile05:19
dr_willis'checking ram.....'05:19
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dr_willis'formating your hard drive looser!..... kidding..."05:19
dr_willis:)05:19
jimmy__"self test complete... now booting OS"05:19
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Chanikadr_willis: eew.  where I used to work, one of the PHBs' comps did a lot of talking. sometimes we'd have to listen to half an hour of "viruse detected. virus removed" over and over...05:21
jimmy__"BIOS out dated..... good luck on finding support"05:21
Vexmasterlol05:21
Vexmasternite nite guys05:21
intelikeyxchat-text | festival -tts 2>&105:21
nigel_hi05:21
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jimmy__xxoo05:21
jimmy__you do you think would win in a celebrity deathmatch...........05:23
jimmy__MSI or Gigabyte?05:23
dr_willisI tend to just go woth the one that has the features i need.. and not gimmicks. :)05:23
jimmy__both have about the same linux support?05:24
intelikeygive me solid, and keep the bells and whistels and pictures05:24
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jimmy__right05:25
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jimmy__doesnt get used anyway by the 98%05:25
dr_willisbest to research the boards chipsets befor buying for linux needs.05:26
intelikeyyeah,  you boot how often ?05:26
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Hexidigitalwhen upgrading kubuntu from breezy to dapper, besides editing sources.list, should i do anything else special?05:26
jimmy__(taken by the offical Jimmy)05:26
jimmy__(poll)05:26
dr_willisperhaps check out that Ultiumate Linux box  artical that was int eh latest Linux Jorunel Magazine. (i think it was in there)05:26
nikkunCAn anyone help me by explaining why im continually getting this error: "APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)"05:26
jimmy__your pc sucks05:27
jimmy__like mine05:27
jimmy__lol05:27
jimmy__(kidding)05:27
nikkunits happening every second05:27
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jimmy__but mine really does suck05:27
nikkunlol05:27
Chanikahrm. I need to get eval `ssh-agent` to run just before kde starts, so that all the kde proggies can use it05:28
jimmy__not a floppy error?05:28
DaSkreechnikkun: Google the error message05:28
intelikeyHexidigital backup a few configs maybe ???    but it's not "supposed" to nukem'05:28
jimmy__40 = floppy?05:28
nikkunwhy do i always froget the all powerful google >.<05:28
jimmy__maybe I'm thinking MS05:28
Hexidigitalintelikey: thx05:29
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intelikeymaybe i should just hose this install and start over....05:31
intelikeylet me see what all has to be redone.....05:32
intelikeyif the installer wasn't the stupid gui thing.... if there was a server install option for just the base system....    well it would only save about three hours...  so it's not that important.05:34
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intelikeyok i've talked my self into it.05:34
p47hello, use somebody compiz and xgl ?05:34
mossmanHello all,  does anyone have any experience with .csv files to bring them in readable form with a linux app,  preferably something exported from outlook, to vcard05:34
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DaSkreechmossman: a csv file can be read in kate05:35
dr_willisyou mean a comma seperates variable file?05:35
dr_willisor am i too  old-skool.05:36
kyle_i am having a problem with my digital camera not showing up in the 'System Setting > Digital Camera'05:36
mossmanyes,  also vi,  but I am loking to make it into easy cut and paste05:36
mossmanany suggestions05:36
Chanikacould open it as a spreadsheet?05:36
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kyle_dr_willis: there is :-)05:36
DaSkreechmossman: Open it in Spreadsheet05:37
SpAwNdoes anyone know if i need to log out then back in after messing with alsamixer.....i still have no sound and i did everything i did when i installed the 1st tiem05:37
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mossmanI can open it as a spread sheet,  though the data is basicly vcard (XML)  I would like to make it easy since there are 3200 entrys of data05:37
TheMoebiusI deleted some songs from my ipod using amoraK and they aren't listed anymore, but the space hasn't been freed. I emptied the Trash, but I'm in Gnome now. Is there a different trash for KDE apps or something?05:38
jbrouhardfree space on your computer05:38
jbrouhardor the ipod itself ?05:38
TheMoebiusjbrouhard: the ipod itself05:39
jbrouhardThen i don't think it has to do with GNOME or KDE then.05:39
jbrouhardI'm not 100% sure but iPod loads as a USB device as well05:39
jbrouhardyou might be able to go in and browse the file structure05:39
dr_willislook for a .trash or  peraps?05:39
dr_willisive seen similer things with usb sticks/drives05:40
dr_willisgets annoying at times.05:40
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mossmanDaSkreech: any idea how to trasfer all of this cvs data to vcard,  or even any form of easy readable data?05:40
TheMoebiusyeah if I do a ls -a /media/ipod there is no .Trash05:40
DaSkreechmossman: You want to split it out to vcard?05:41
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jbrouhardare those songs still on the iPod ?05:41
SpAwNbrb05:41
mossmanYes,  Basicly it came from MS Outlook.  3200 client data files. It is kinda important to me to be able to format it quickly,  without having to go line by line05:42
TheMoebiusjbrouhard: can't tell if the files themselves are there because it abstracts the filenames05:42
DaSkreechmossman: I take it you ran through Google already?05:42
mossmanit was exported to an excel spread sheet.05:42
mossmanno,  I came here, my apologies05:43
DaSkreechmossman: No problem :)05:43
DaSkreechmossman: I think that Kontact may be able to handle a CSV05:43
Eeyoremossman, any csv file should be readable to import into a vcard05:43
Eeyorei have done it with thunderbird05:44
mossmanreaalyt?  I will give it a try.  kmail is awesome,  and stable for many years now05:44
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Chanikayay! chinese fonts work in kubuntu05:45
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dr_willisI'll take an order of MooGooGai Pan..05:45
dr_willis:)05:45
dr_willisand some of those Steamed Dumplings.05:45
doppelganger_hey guys, has anyone experienced xgl breaking konqueror?05:45
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doppelganger_nothing konqueror functions anymore after installing05:45
doppelganger_xgl works fine, as does everything else05:46
SpAwNhmm i still have no sound.........05:46
dr_willislast i tried XGl - nothing worked. :)05:46
doppelganger_reinstalled kon, no dice05:46
DaSkreechmossman: Yup Kontact does it05:46
Chanikadoppelganger_: no, but I know that kde and compiz don't always get along05:46
doppelganger_interesting note here that might help05:46
DaSkreechmossman: Alt+Enter -> Kontact -> Import ->CSV05:46
doppelganger_in adept, compiz-gnome is installed, but compiz-kde is not05:47
ChanikaI was planning on trying out xgl soon... the kororaa livecd was so pretty :)05:47
doppelganger_i'm wondering if i uninstall the gnome and install the kde if konqueror will magically work05:47
DaSkreechYeah too bad some joker shut it down :(05:47
mossmanKontact seems to crash on me,   there are 3200 vcards in cvs.  Maybe to much for my machine to take :)05:47
Chanikadoppelganger_: can't hurt to try05:47
doppelganger_i'm just hoping that it boots up correctly when i try it though05:48
doppelganger_any chance that might not happen?05:48
doppelganger_er might05:48
Chanikaack, I've spent all evening playing with kubuntu! at this rate I'll never eat...05:48
unix_infidelChanika: welcome to the first few weeks of linux..05:48
unix_infidelits almost as addictive as pokemon to a 5 year old.05:49
doppelganger_hell, i'm gonna try it real quick05:49
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doppelganger_may/may not see you guys..  lol05:49
Chanikaunix_infidel: oh, I've already installed breezy on a few comps, and this one's been running gentoo for years05:49
Chanikabut dapper is all nice and shiny and Things Just Work! :)05:50
mossmanWelcome to computing....05:50
unix_infidelChanika: i seriously dont understand what's to play with...05:50
unix_infideli got my desktop setup in....under 15mins iirc.05:50
Chanikaunix_infidel: well, installing upgrades over wireless takes forever05:50
Chanikathen I have to remember how to make X run ssh-agent before kde so that I can use fish://05:50
Chanikathen grab all my config files off this comp05:51
Chanikathen install a zillion programs05:51
Chanikaand set up preferences05:51
Chanikaand pick a pretty screensaver - laptops must be impressive to make other people with they had linux ;)05:51
SpAwNi have everything up in alsamixer and i also ran this command "amixer set 'Exchange Front/Surround' on && amixer set 'Spread Front to Surround and Center/LFE' on " which solved my problem last iem05:51
unix_infidelChanika: by know you should have all these configs backed up.05:52
unix_infidelnow*05:52
Chanikaand then I'll have to start setting up various develoipment environments05:52
Chanikaunix_infidel: yeah, I could get them with scp, but I wanted to use fish...05:52
Chanikaoh, and I wanna test out the power management stuff and see how much of it works, but I can't do that while stuff is installing05:53
unix_infidelfish?05:53
Chanikafish://05:53
unix_infidel*shrug*05:53
Chanikassh filebrowsing for konq :)05:53
Chanikaeasiest way to grab files off another computer - assuming you've got ssh-agent running05:53
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unix_infidelChanika: i find just an rsync pretty effective :P05:54
GStubbs43How do I install icons in the format of .tar.bz2?05:54
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unix_infidelGStubbs43: depends, where did you get the icons from...05:54
unix_infidelto extract the file...05:54
unix_infidel!bzip05:54
ubotuI know nothing about bzip05:54
unix_infidel!tar05:54
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)05:54
GStubbs43http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1656405:54
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Chanikaunix_infidel: eh, my settings aren't consistent enough... stuff ends up slightly different on each ccomp05:54
unix_infidelGStubbs43: after you decompress and extract the archive there will be a readme specific to that icon set.05:55
ChanikaI was asking earlier about ways to sync comuters but nobody answered05:55
unix_infidelChanika: rsync.05:55
mossmanHum,, I am trying to import said file with contact.    It tells me to assign a colum.  How do I select all coloms05:55
unix_infidelor just a script to execute a cp -R over samba or NFS etc etc05:55
Chanikauntil now my systems have been too diferent to bother considering it05:55
GStubbs43It says: Run the buildset script05:55
GStubbs43Select your custom kmenu icon (default is always a good choice)05:55
GStubbs43Wait for the icons to convert05:55
GStubbs43Wait for the tar.gz or tar.bz2 to build05:55
GStubbs43Install using kcontrol05:55
unix_infidel!flood05:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:56
GStubbs43Sorry05:56
Chanikaunix_infidel: but, i'm not sure which stuff I want to be sync'd or not. some of the settings on this comp wouldn't make sense for a laptop05:56
Chanikaso, I'll have to tink about it properly later05:56
Chanikaright now I really must go buy food05:57
DaSkreechmossman: Split it into three csvs?05:57
mossmanHow do I do that05:57
mossman?05:57
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mossmanDaSkreech:  Sorry,  I do not know how to split it into three csv's05:59
DaSkreechmossman: ok caught up whats' with the select columns?05:59
DaSkreechGStubbs43: There is a file named buildset in the archive?06:00
GStubbs43Yes'06:01
ivanwhy are certain packages greyed out in adept installer and how do I get them?06:01
mossmanThere is no setactt colum.  Only 1234 ect   and undefined colum. Kontact does not alow me to give anyy commmands06:02
SpAwNcan anyone help me get my sound working?06:02
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SpAwNi have a ac'97 onboard intel soundcard06:03
mossmanI have the cvs in a spread like sheet,  something like a spread sheet,  but the kontact iport.  n06:03
SpAwNive added all the restricted formates....i can see video...just no sound......i have no sound period....no logon sound nothing06:04
mossmanwhen I hit "ok" it says I must choose a colum?  But I want all colums06:04
ChanikaSpAwN: weeeird06:04
DaSkreechGStubbs43: Run it :)06:04
ChanikaI have intel sound, iirc, and it just worked06:04
GStubbs43Nothing happened06:04
DaSkreechmossman: It's probably a mapper06:05
SpAwNChanika, i had a prob with it last time i installed....06:05
SpAwNbut the fix i used then doesnt work now...06:05
DaSkreechSpAwN: Speakers plugged in?06:05
SpAwNDaSkreech, lol yes06:05
DaSkreechGStubbs43: You ran it from the command line?06:05
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GStubbs43I clicked it and chose execute06:05
mossmanyes.  It may be.  I know MSm outlook would have np with this file.  I guess i will go through by hand,  thanks06:06
SpAwNi get this http://pastebin.ca/8571706:06
GStubbs43I got it, it's all right. Thanks..06:07
actiniccool, finally got lm-sensors and gkrellm to work together06:07
natan-if anyone is interested in made sort of a plug in script that can show you status of a WRT54G router in knewsticker, looks like this:06:07
natan-http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/a98c093a4e.jpg06:07
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DaSkreechmossman: Wait :)06:08
mossmanWaiting..06:08
DaSkreechmossman: Send me the file if you don't mind06:08
DaSkreechI'll try and see what's going on :)06:08
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mossmanDont mind..  stand by06:09
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Zaireanyone know what the best ftp client is06:10
DaSkreechThe one that you like06:10
mossmanFile is in sending progress DaSkreech.  Are you reciveing06:11
Zairevery funny I just would like to set it up before I go to bed cause I gotta be up at 5:30 in the morning06:11
DaSkreechKbear?06:11
SpAwNi like gftp06:12
ChanikaI tend to just use konq, for the rare times when I need ftp access06:12
Zairek thx guys and laters06:13
mossmanDaSkreech. gmail coming your way06:13
natan-Zaire - you can use konkeror06:13
Chanikaack, why am I still here?06:14
SpAwNthis blows.............06:15
DaSkreechmossman: I'll let you know when I get it06:17
mossmanShould be soon,  I am dmossman at gmail.....com06:18
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DaSkreechGuten06:19
mossmanIs that got it  in German?06:20
Melchiorregood06:20
Melchiorre*in German06:20
DaSkreechIt's Good in german but I normmaly use it as it has been gooten which is guten06:21
DaSkreechcause I'm strange :)06:22
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mossmanDas Duestuse kungenscriber ist ninche gud aus des Canadiana Kungenscriber....Sorry  Bad joke from German class a long time ago :)06:22
mossmanWith a name like mossman I should not be making jokes in german06:24
Melchiorrelol06:24
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kyle_anyone have any idea how to get a a usb storage device to work? i read the docs on kubuntu's site but nothing works06:25
OODjust plug it in06:26
kyle_it does nothing06:26
DaSkreechkyle_: Do you have a /dev/sda?06:26
kyle_i checked mount and there is no sda106:26
mossmanKyle....Plug it in,.  Unless it is a very odd device, it shoul work out of the box06:26
kyle_it's corsair06:26
kyle_i have /dev/sda and /dev/sda106:27
kyle_do i need to add something to my fstab?06:27
mossmanDaSkreech.  Any idea ?  That file btw is big...06:27
kyle_there is no mention of sda in mount06:28
kyle_/dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)06:28
kyle_proc on /proc type proc (rw)06:28
kyle_/sys on /sys type sysfs (rw)06:28
DaSkreechmossman: tell me about it :)06:28
kyle_varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)06:28
kyle_varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw)06:28
kyle_procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)06:28
kyle_udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)06:28
kyle_devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)06:28
kyle_devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)06:28
kyle_lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw)06:28
kyle_/dev/hda2 on /media/hda2 type reiserfs (rw)06:28
kyle_i only see : procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)06:29
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DaSkreechmossman: Yep feels like Kontact has bit the bucket06:30
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DaSkreechNope it's processing06:31
DaSkreechAh ha!06:31
mossmanHAHAHA.. Yeah.. I think I will just try to manually cut/paste from oo.org  and kill a few hours] 06:31
DaSkreechmossman: Ok Now what about select coloums?06:32
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mossmanI am sure if I was a smater man...emacs could be progamed to read it,, filter it, re-program it and play pacman at the same time......  Kontact asked me to select colum to eport.  I tried, but it would not let me select anything..06:33
DaSkreechWhen was this?06:34
kyle_how do i reload fstab?06:34
DaSkreechkyle_: save it06:35
DaSkreechmossman: Right after it parsed the file?06:35
mossmanYes.. It parsed the data,  then asked for me to select a cloum when I tried tosave it06:36
DaSkreechmossman: The file is binary06:36
kyle_DaSkreech: I added this to my fstab -- /dev/sda1       /media/USB       auto   rw,noauto,user,sync     0 006:36
mossmanThough it would not allow me to select any data06:37
kyle_and it doesnt work06:37
DaSkreechkyle_: can You sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/USB ?06:37
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SpAwNomg this is so frustrating.........06:37
DaSkreechmossman: This is the output from Outlook?06:37
jronquestion, i see a deb link for kubuntu for ktorrent 2.0 beta1... which i must use as 1x is banned on oink... how can i use this .deb file?06:37
mossmanYes, It is binary from outlook06:38
DaSkreechmossman: Argh06:38
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DaSkreechIt open in Spreadsheet?06:38
mossmanoo.org can read it..06:38
DaSkreechWith coloumns sorted out?06:38
SpAwNanyone about intel onboard sound cards...i have no sound06:38
DaSkreechSo GID is in one Column Name in another etc?06:38
kyle_hehe - thanks DaSkreech06:38
mossmanThough...it is a run on sentence06:39
DaSkreechmossman: So it's not parsing it then06:39
mossmanright....06:39
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kyle_DaSkreech: i have read i need to unmount the usb device before pulling it out - is this true?06:40
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DaSkreechkyle_: It's a good practice06:40
kyle_DaSkreech: just do -- sudo umount /dev/sda1 /mnt/USB06:41
kyle_correct?06:41
mossmanDaSkreech: I know this is frustrating. I should have kept this to myself and cp/paste it.06:41
DaSkreechkyle_: Strictly speaking it generally won't kill anything since USB is hot swappable but if something is using the device it could corrupt data but worse if it's hard drive it could be spinning up or down and that might screw it up06:41
DaSkreechmossman: Nonesense :)06:41
DaSkreechmossman: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/189181/EN-US/06:42
DaSkreechCute :)06:42
DaSkreechWell it's readable that's good06:42
Chanikakyle_: yes, unmount. linux sometimes doesn't bother writing all the data until later so if you just yank it out you could lose stuff06:43
Redei upgraded my kernel via adept, and after doing so i boot to the kubuntu logo, without the nvidia display ever showing. if i press esc and boot to the older kernel i have no problems. is there something im supposed to do?06:43
jronanyone have ktorrent 2.0 beta1 installed?06:43
kyle_Chanika: okay, thanks06:43
Chanikakyle_: you should be able to right-click the icon in konq and safely remove from there06:43
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ChanikaRede: install the nvidia stuff for that particular kernel?06:44
DaSkreechmossman: http://aurelio.net/bin/python/s1mp3-import-contacts.py here's the offset06:44
mossman:)  I have been "computing" since 1985....I have been using Linix since 1996.... I hate to ask frivilous questions.  I will beat this cvs....If is takes all night06:44
mossmanExcellect url..btw06:44
mossmanthanks06:45
DaSkreechkyle_: Yup that's the command except you only need the folder06:45
DaSkreechkyle_: the Dev is redundant06:45
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DaSkreechmossman: Well a binary csv is hardly frivilous06:45
Chanikaadept + wireless = woe :(06:45
kyle_DaSkreech: k, thnx -- now i just gotta figure out this digital camera usb issue....06:46
Chanikafail, fail, crash, fail06:46
DaSkreechChanika: Whats for leftovers?06:46
mossmantrue... That is why M$ loves it so much06:46
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goemon4hey all, (again) im wondering if anyone can help me with my compiling problem?06:46
RedeChanika: do i have to do so manually or can i do so via apt?06:47
mossmanMake all compiling problems _here06:47
ChanikaI've never dealt with nvidia+kubuntu. I suggest doing whatever you did with the previous kernel06:47
DaSkreech!06:47
ubotuI know nothing about !06:47
DaSkreechmossman: Can You export as a .pab?06:47
mossmanumm, Not sure...will try06:47
Redeahh i see in adept i have restricted modules for .25 but not .26 thats probably the issue06:48
DaSkreechKontact has  an option to import from that :)06:48
goemon4ok then, my problem is that nothing will compile, all i get is that the c compiler cant make the executables...i have gcc 4 installed and im trying to compile sdl's source06:48
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Chanikaargles. I think I'm gonna have to gte my own router.06:50
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mossmanpab,  does not want to be imported.06:52
osiriswhat is a good benchmarking tool, for gagueing how my linux box is running06:52
nikkunDoes anyone in here know how to get it so that an laptop running a AMD64bit processor to actually increase speed since mine is stuck at 800Mhz and wont speed up06:53
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mossmankontack is now importing, what has changed I am not sure.  but,  if it works,. dont fix it.06:54
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DaSkreechmossman: The pab?06:56
fockergoemon4: do "sudo apt-get install libsdl" to get sdl.  It is a library for games that require it.06:56
DaSkreechnikkun: I've seen some docs on that. Don't recall where they are now06:56
DaSkreechnikkun: Ask in #ubuntu06:56
nikkuni am :)06:56
mossmanHeh.  It imported 3200 "blank" contacks06:56
DaSkreechcute :)06:57
ctwhi! I have a problem: I ran out of space in my root partition (I have a separate /home partition) ... the problem is that I can't even do apt-get remove because I get error messages due to no disk space06:57
ctwI'm looking for short-term and long term solutions06:57
ctwit seems that I could probably delete the *.deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives to free up some space06:58
ctw(is that a good idea? any other ideas?)06:58
ctwbut in the long term I would also like to make the partition bigger06:58
ctwI have enough space on the hard drive06:58
Chanikayeah, delete unncessary stuff06:59
ctwI ideally I would like to shrink or eliminate a winows partition an distribute the extra space to my root an home partitions (both reiserfs)06:59
mossmandam I suck ...Though I try :)   Dam you bill!!  Why cant your csv be a real csv????06:59
Chanika(of, course, make sure it's really unnecessary first)06:59
ctwhow do I know that it's unnecessary?06:59
Chanikactw: well, resizing ntfs partitions seems to work.. I've never resized anything else myself07:00
ctwI'm pretty sure it is, but it seem I won't know for certain until I delete it07:00
Chanikactw: heh. good question :)07:00
ChanikaI'd say a .deb is pretty unnecessary - it can always be redownloaded07:00
ctwwill I be able to increase the reiserfs partitions?07:00
Chanikamaybe look in /var as well for bloated logs n'stuff07:01
ctwChankia: yeah, that's what I thought07:01
ChanikaI assume so but I've never tried myself :)07:01
ctwah, good idea, thanks07:01
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mossmanJoin me at #rantandroar  if you would like to scream and yell at Microsoft07:03
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DaSkreechctw: try /tmp07:03
ctwDaSkreech: already did, but thanks07:03
DaSkreechand /var/cache/apt/archives07:03
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DaSkreechmossman: OK Might need to go multistep07:09
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CntryboyI know this is a stupid question, but is there a program for gaim to sniff ips of friends on aim?07:10
DaSkreechhttp://www.pcbypaul.com/software/pagenda_install.html07:11
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Cntryboymy friend says they are, i'm saying they aren't07:11
DaSkreechMIght do it by itself :)07:11
Cntryboyanyone?07:11
DaSkreechCntryboy: Pretty much it's possible as with all IMs not done by proxy07:11
Cntryboydaskreech: but what program would do this besides something like netstat for the term07:12
Cntryboynot even sure if netstat would07:12
DaSkreechCntryboy: Are you trying to prove that it can or that it can't be done?07:12
Chanikaaim does seem to report the ip in some cases - it would not be hard to write code to show that to the user.07:12
CntryboyI know anything is possible, but he says a program made for gaim will, I tried to find such a program and nothing, so im betting no07:13
DaSkreechmossman: Whoops :) take off the _install :)07:13
kyle_anyone have any experience with digiKam?07:13
mossmanmultistep.  I a, unaware of this07:13
Cntryboykyle: ive installed it but haven't used it, use showfoto though07:14
mossman_install.. Know i am confused.07:14
Cntryboydaskreech: so is there a program?07:14
CntryboyI have 20 bucks betting on this07:14
DaSkreechCntryboy: Probably07:14
CntryboyI hope there isn't07:14
CntryboyI gotta find proof07:14
Cntryboylol07:14
DaSkreechCntryboy: Check the addons page at the sf.net page07:14
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Cntryboywww.sf.net?07:15
DaSkreechgaim.sf.net07:15
Cntryboykk07:15
Cntryboylet me c and thx07:15
DaSkreechmossman: The URL I sent to you before :)07:15
mossmanContyboy  try insecure,com07:15
DaSkreechIt seems to be able to import Outlook contacts07:15
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kyle_Cntryboy: i can't get it to compile07:15
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kyle_Cntryboy: how did you get yours to install?07:15
JRH3K5Howdy doody.07:16
Cntryboymm I typed in07:16
Cntryboylet me think07:16
DaSkreechmossman: Erm Outlook Express07:16
CntryboyThis I think sudo aptitude install digikamimageplugins07:16
kyle_JRH3K5: you're right around the corner from me07:17
JRH3K5Can anyone, perhaps, assist me in installing PHP5 with Apache?07:17
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JRH3K5apt-get install php5 does not work :/07:17
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JRH3K5When I try to edit httpd.conf to add LoadModule [blah blah] /libphp5.so, I can't find libphp5.so on my hard drive07:17
kyle_Cntryboy: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "digikamimageplugins"07:17
kyle_thanks for trying though07:17
Cntryboythats what I installed though07:18
Cntryboythat installed digikam and showfoto07:18
CntryboyI dind't compile it or nothing07:18
Cntryboydaskreech: no addon area on that page, I c downloads lol07:19
JRH3K5Or, why, even though Adept says I have GCC 4.0 installed, and its path is in $PATH, whenever I try to compile, I'm told that I don't have a valid C compiler in my PATH?07:19
DaSkreechHmm there is a place to see plugins etc07:19
Cntryboyyah I am in plugins now07:19
Cntryboyand nothing there for ip stuff07:20
mossmanDaSkreech:  Thepy program doenst seem to work for me. though, my python experience is about as great as my ruby..07:20
DaSkreechmossman: It's just peachy then!! :)07:21
mossmanI will figure it out tommorow, thanks for your assistance07:21
kyle_anyone have any idea what this is?  --   checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables07:21
mossmanNo  It's more perly....:)07:21
Cntryboykyle: if you do what I said, it will install it, I just opened mine up digikam photo management right?07:21
mossmandam I miss bamultistepsic07:21
kyle_Cntryboy: i did do what you said and it couldnt find that package07:22
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kyle_Cntryboy: what version on kubuntu are you running?07:22
flaccidjust apt-get install samba to install samba server/client ?07:22
mossmaner basic...I will never miss touchpad mousepads..07:22
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Cntryboynot the newest07:22
Cntryboythe one that came with kubuntu cd07:22
kyle_Cntryboy: i am, that's probably why...07:22
Cntryboymaybe07:23
JRH3K5flaccid - yes07:23
kyle_Cntryboy: you are most likely using breezy 5.1007:23
flaccidsweet07:23
kyle_Cntryboy: i am using dapper 6.0607:23
Cntryboyoh Im using dapper 6.06 also07:23
JRH3K5Configuration is the hard part ;)07:23
kyle_Cntryboy: you add anything to your /etc/apt/sources.list ?07:24
Cntryboynot for that I didn't07:24
Cntryboy0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 62 not upgraded.07:25
CntryboyNeed to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.07:25
CntryboyWriting extended state information... Done07:25
Cntryboyworks fine for me that command07:25
DaSkreechmossman: http://www.annesoft.com/Email_Address_Collector-s-9418.html07:25
kyle_Cntryboy:07:25
kyle_sudo aptitude install digikamimageplugins07:25
kyle_Reading package lists... Done07:25
kyle_Building dependency tree... Done07:25
kyle_Reading extended state information07:25
kyle_Initializing package states... Done07:25
kyle_Building tag database... Done07:26
kyle_Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "digikamimageplugins"07:26
kyle_No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.07:26
mossmanHello DaSkreeh07:26
Cntryboydunno then dude :(07:26
CntryboyI didn't add nothing to sources list though07:26
mossmaner DaSkreech07:26
DaSkreech:-)07:26
DaSkreechmossman: That looks like it might be it :)07:26
kyle_Cntryboy: ohh well, i'll get playing and see what i come up with - need to get these pics off of this digital camera. Do you know of any other way?07:26
mossmanReadin.. looks likre a solution07:27
Cntryboykyle: try apt instead and c07:27
kyle_Cntryboy: nope, still couldnt find it07:27
DaSkreechmossman: Readin?07:28
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Cntryboykyle: want me to paste u source list in pm or on pastebin?07:28
mossmanYeah,  iT seems to be q MS Binary though..  That may or not be helpful07:28
Cntryboyand compare07:28
kyle_Cntryboy: either way is fine07:29
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Cntryboyokay check pm07:29
kyle_Cntryboy: i didnt get one07:29
Cntryboyyou registered?07:29
kyle_nope, gimme a sec and i will07:30
Cntryboyk07:30
vigilanteCan someone help me test this? Im trying to download enemy territory installer, and kwrite pops up trying to open it, http://enemy-territory.4players.de:1041/download.php?view.313 click on the blue arrow, whats the deal?07:30
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Cntryboypm me once u register07:30
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vigilanteI can't even find where to change default programs and file associations... System Settings hides this KDE function from me07:33
unix_infidelanyone know of its possible to generate a click event right under the cursor so i can set a wm keybind to it?07:35
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ivanwhy are certain packages greyed out in adept installer and how do I get them? for example libxine-extracodecs07:35
Chanikavigilante: yuck. how dumb. at least you can do it per file-type, thought the file's properties07:36
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DaSkreechvigilante: I think that you can do that in Konqueror07:36
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vigilanteDaSkreech: I found it in konq, but I still can't find the association thats causing this07:37
vigilanteI tried both run and php, nothing connected to kwrite07:37
wolfmanzanyone know what would cause kubuntu to end up in 640 by 480 mode after working fine in 1024 by 768 before i reboot?07:37
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Chanikavigilante: what about right-click, save link as?07:41
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Chanikajust a workaround but better than nothing07:41
stanksgood morning07:41
JRH3K5So...07:41
JRH3K5With gcc, gcc-4.0, gcc-4.0-base, gcc-4.0-locales, and libgcc1 installed, why can't my C compiler (and I have gcc & cc in my $PATH) create executables?07:42
flakehi, is there a way i can set up a folder I can run stuff from remotely, like open a .txt file and save it there on the same remote location (in ubuntu)?07:42
flakewould that be ssh?07:42
flakei want to put an excel sheet on my linux box, and the windows xp i'm using has excel so it should open it up on the server, not in a temporary folder07:43
unix_infidelflake: why not setup a samba share so both the windows box and the linux box have access to them.07:44
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JRH3K5I was going to say that. >:(07:44
unix_infidelthen you can point whatever app to manage the excel document.07:44
flakei tried samba but both pc's are not seeing it07:44
vigilanteChanika: doing that saves the file as a php07:44
JRH3K5flake - any firewalls running?07:45
flakeaffirmative07:45
_rince_mrgn07:45
KDEfanboy_tell me if this is expected behavior; i install a package with apt-get, then remove that package. the startup script for it is left in /etc/init.d/ for some reason. i remove that file. i reinstall that package later and apt doesn't unpack that script file on the system any more. ?07:45
JRH3K5Have you configured them to allow connections on your network?07:45
flakeon the linux box i have some ports opened07:45
flakei can run apache2 initially with no issue, the html loads up fine07:46
Chanikavigilante: does it save the file data or just some php page?07:46
JRH3K5Do you have anything like Norton firewall on the Win machines, or FireStarter on the Linux machine?07:46
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flakenah just norton07:46
DaSkreechvigilante: What are you using to download?07:46
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unix_infidelflake: a lot of people use the smb protocol everyday...07:46
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JRH3K5Norton...antivirus, or firewall?07:46
unix_infideljust because it isnt working for you...07:46
vigilanteDaSkreech: konq/kget07:47
flakei know, it's cause i'm broken  :P07:47
KDEfanboy_anyone else have the problem where startup scripts are left in /etc/init.d/ after trying to remove the package it belongs to?07:47
flakewhat is system username07:47
JRH3K5KDEfanboy_ - yes07:47
flakeis that my /home/system username?07:47
unix_infidelthere should be a tutorial on the ubuntu website.07:47
JRH3K5/home/[whatever username you logged in as] 07:47
flakeok07:48
KDEfanboy_hm, is that a bug or a feature07:48
unix_infidelflake: you can also cheat by using smb4k, its a kde front end to samba.07:48
JRH3K5KDEfanboy_ - it's a "feature"07:48
JRH3K5It's only a bug if it's a problem :P07:48
DaSkreechvigilante: Why don't you justsave it?07:48
flakehow do i access this folder i have direct access to under windows...  //192.168.2.x/WORKGROUP  ?07:48
flakeunix:  thanks i might try that07:48
DaSkreechvigilante: Seems like the easiestthing to do :)07:49
JRH3K5From a Windows machine?07:49
JRH3K5Or from Linux, flake?07:49
KDEfanboy_heh.. well i removed the leftover script, and now i can't get it back even after reinstalling, so it's a problem for me07:49
flakeyes want to maintain spreadsheet remotely07:49
flakeor text files, or edit bitmaps07:49
flakeintra and inter07:49
JRH3K5Your best bet is to set up Samba.  Seriously.07:49
JRH3K5Oh, inter?07:50
JRH3K5FTP, then.07:50
flakeftp wont let me update in place ?07:50
JRH3K5No.07:50
JRH3K5And...it'd be really bad security if you allowed that to be done outside of your router :P07:50
unix_infidelflake: it'd be better if you did VPN for internet...especially if the files are sensitive.07:50
JRH3K5Wouldn't SFTP be enough?07:50
JRH3K5I don't know how easy OpenVPN is to set up.07:51
bur[n] ersftp is easier07:51
Chanikavigilante: looks to me like the "php" it downloads should actually be the file you want. just rename it. if konq's still givin your trouble try wget07:51
bur[n] eropenvpn is doable, but sftp does the job well07:51
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JRH3K5Quesotin:  installing and compiling apache.  "make" is apparently not a valid command in Kubuntu.07:51
DaSkreechvigilante: it opens in kwrite?07:51
JRH3K5So...what do I do? ?_?07:51
flakethank you, i was banging my head against a wall for a bit07:52
flakenow that the swelling has gone down, it's time to do it again07:52
mazurskieapt-get install build-essential07:52
JRH3K5mazurskie - that to me?07:52
unix_infidelJRH3K5: VPN has some inherent advantages over SFTP or SCP07:52
mazurskiesure07:52
DaSkreech!b-e07:52
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:52
JRH3K5Of course.07:52
JRH3K5But SFTP is easier to set up.07:53
scabootsscai cant get amarok to play any songs help me pleasew07:53
JRH3K5And, unless it's corporate files, I would think SFTP would be enough.07:53
unix_infidelJRH3K5: that's like the windows vs. linux analogy.07:53
DaSkreechscabootssca: Any songs?07:53
DaSkreechscabootssca: Or mp3?07:53
scabootssca.mp3's07:53
DaSkreech!mp307:53
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:53
JRH3K5unix_infidel - what do you mean?07:53
DaSkreechscabootssca: read those :)07:53
vigilanteDaSkreech: it trys to, the file is 200mb, so it starts to load07:54
flaccidis it hard to reduce the size of the root partition to allow space for a new partiiton?07:54
DaSkreechvigilante: Let it load07:54
unix_infidelJRH3K5: one is easier to setup etc etc. one has inherent advantages over the other...etc etc...one is more secure etc etc.07:54
DaSkreechvigilante: want the direct url?07:55
JRH3K5Oh, so you're saying it's up to personal taste?07:55
DaSkreechvigilante: http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/4players/hosted/et/official/et-linux-2.60.x86.run07:55
DaSkreechThrow that into kget07:55
DaSkreechscabootssca: Are you comfortable with repositories?07:56
scabootsscai guess i got mp3's to work in regular ubuntu07:56
unix_infidelJRH3K5: no i'm saying its up to you in the end...but its a matter of doing it right once or doing it many times.07:56
DaSkreechscabootssca: in that case you are looking for libxine-extracodecs07:57
scabootsscaok install that?07:57
DaSkreechscabootssca: yes07:57
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JRH3K5Personally, if I really wanted good VPN security, I'd just get a hardware firewall. :P07:57
Chanikavigilante: hey, I found the problem07:58
unix_infidelJRH3K5: that's not an option for a lot of small businesses or home users.07:58
elDeuceif i compile something and run into an error - how do i delete(uninstall) the corrupted compile?07:58
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Chanikavigilante: that website is claiming to send plaintext, so konq follows the plaintext rules, which by default don't ask to save.07:58
scabootsscathere is no package for that do i have to enable repositorys? how do i do that in kubuntu?07:59
JazonelDeuce: make distclean07:59
elDeuceJazon: make: *** No rule to make target `distclean'.  Stop.07:59
DaSkreechChanika: Yeah I know :)07:59
scabootsscawait i found the screen what do i have to enable?07:59
JazonelDeuce: sudo make distclean ??08:00
DaSkreechMultiverse08:00
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scabootsscaenable multiverse?08:00
DaSkreechscabootssca: Yes08:00
DaSkreech!multiverse08:00
elDeuceJazon: same error08:00
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource08:00
JazonelDeuce: are you in the dir you ranake in?08:00
Jazonmake in08:00
Jazonhow the hell did i make that character?08:01
DaSkreechJazon: Interesting font08:01
elDeucei never go to the make part only ran ./configure before it crashed - gcc never got a chance to compile08:01
DaSkreech   08:01
DaSkreechelDeuce: Do you have b-e ?08:01
elDeuceJazon: i got this error --- checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables08:01
JazonelDeuce: dunno then m8 sorry08:02
elDeuceDaSkreech: no idea what b-e is, so no08:02
JRH3K5Hmm08:02
DaSkreechscabootssca: if you need help let me know08:02
JRH3K5Where does Apache2 point to for its files?08:02
JRH3K5Apache1.3 used to be /var/www08:02
DaSkreech!tell elDeuce about b-e08:02
scabootsscaok i'm following the tutorial08:02
DaSkreechscabootssca: Kool08:02
DaSkreechmossman: How are you doing?08:02
Chanikahmm.08:03
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Chanikado most people use gstreamer or xine?08:03
flakejrh3k5:  i found the apache2 files there when i installed it08:04
DaSkreechI use xine08:05
JRH3K5In /var/www08:05
JRH3K5?08:05
flake /apache2-default08:05
scabootsscaok libxine-extracodecs is there now. I'm installing it'08:05
flakei used sudo apt-get install08:05
RobNychow do I make my numlock key always on ?08:06
scabootsscaok the song is playing but no sound08:07
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DaSkreechscabootssca: Hmm do you have sound normally?08:07
scabootsscano i'm working on that08:08
scabootsscagot a sb audigy2zs08:08
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DaSkreechAh Someone had an issue with that two days ago08:09
DaSkreechAudigy has it's own LInux Drivers as I recall08:09
scabootsscagot it08:09
scabootsscai got it to work08:09
DaSkreechThough they might have stopped supporting Linux :(08:09
DaSkreechCool08:09
DaSkreech What did you do08:10
MelchiorreRobNyc: do you mean so it's on at startup, or so you can't turn it off?08:10
DaSkreechreopen amarok? :)08:10
scabootsscaused oss sound output plugin08:10
RobNycMelchiorre, so its on startup08:10
DaSkreechok :)08:10
scabootsscaand restarted amarok08:10
elknof1hi everybody, im having an issue while watching a movie with kaffeine, the image is like in jumps, not continous, i've allready turned on the dma, so i have no idea what could be...08:11
scabootsscaok how do i make things open on double click not single cause i keep accidentally opening hings08:11
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elDeucescabootssca: go to your KDE menu08:12
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pulaskihello08:12
elDeucescabootssca: open up System Settings and go to Mouse08:12
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dominatrixhi all08:12
elDeucescabootssca: it's in there08:12
scabootsscagot it thanks08:12
flakeis there a 'windoze' key to pop up the KDE menu?08:12
scabootsscai couldnt figure out which icon it was08:13
elDeucescabootssca: i'm still learning, so i help where i can :-)08:13
elknof1hi everybody, im having an issue while watching a movie with kaffeine, the image is like in jumps, not continous, i've allready turned on the dma, so i have no idea what could be...08:14
DaSkreechflake: Alt=F108:14
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MelchiorreRobNyc: System setting -> Hardware -> Keyboard -> Numlock on KDE startup, select Turn on.08:14
dominatrixquick question, ive got nvidia-glx installed, and recompiled with the restricted module, and done the enable command in Konsole, but i cant increase my resolution08:14
DaSkreechAlt+F108:14
DaSkreechelknof1: Which engine?08:14
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flakethanks08:15
RobNycMelchiorre, i dont see that im on ubuntu sorry08:15
Melchiorreoh, in Ubuntu08:15
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elknof1DaSkreech, xine08:16
MelchiorreRobNyc, try asking in #Ubuntu, they know Gnome better than us ;)08:16
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RobNycMelchiorre, ty08:17
DaSkreechelknof1: Ermm Not sure. I've seen that but I normally just renice it or kill some stuff to make it better08:17
dominatrixanyone?08:17
JRH3K5Hmm08:17
RobNycMelchiorre, but u know how that channel is lol .. go play the lottery if u get an answer08:17
JRH3K5So, I've chmodded /var/www/ to 75508:17
JRH3K5And I've got httpd.conf pointing to it as DocumentRoot08:17
JRH3K5But I'm getting 403 Forbidden?08:17
DaSkreech!resolution08:18
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:18
elknof1DaSkreech, is it possible to install gstreamer engine?, i mean without uninstalling xine (because of amarok)??08:18
MelchiorreRobNyc, heh, yeah, I'll do a quick google for you...08:18
DaSkreechelknof1: Of course08:18
RobNycMelchiorre, thanks so much man08:18
Melchiorrenp08:18
dominatrix!resolution08:18
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:18
JRH3K5Ah, there we go08:18
JRH3K5Stupid Deny from all08:19
flakeoh08:19
MelchiorreRobNyc: http://ubuntuos.com/2006/04/random-tip-turn-numlock-on-on-boot08:19
RobNycthanks08:19
elDeucewhen i plug my camera into the usb port and run dmesg in konsole i get this error08:20
elDeuce[17183327.512000]  FAT: Directory bread(block 506) failed08:20
elDeuce[17183327.512000]   4:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device08:20
vigilanteDaSkreech: how did you get the direct url?08:20
flakeis there any way to remap the alt-f1 key to the windoze key08:20
elknof1DaSkreech, but i cant use gstreamer with kaffeine... isnt it??08:20
DaSkreechvigilante: I just loaded it up in firefox08:21
DaSkreechthe redirect opens in the same window08:21
DaSkreechelknof1: Sure you can08:21
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DaSkreechSettings -> Engine settings08:22
DaSkreechI think :)08:22
greghehhe oops i joined the wrong channel.   forgot i was banned in that other one...08:22
dominatrixquick question, ive got nvidia-glx installed, and recompiled with the restricted module, and done the enable command in Konsole, but i cant increase my resolution08:22
DaSkreechdominatrix: !resolution doesn't help?08:22
gregwhy is kde so slow in dapper ?   do i have something misconfigured maybe ?08:23
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buz!kopete08:23
ubotukopete is Kopete 0.12 testing packages at http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/08:23
dominatrixDaSkreech: heck no, i just dont get why i cant go above 1024x76808:23
buzhas anyone got kopete packages with fixed icq?08:23
DaSkreechyou ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?08:24
DaSkreechThey have a section in there to choose your resolution08:24
DaSkreechbuz: AOL messed up the servers08:24
dominatrixDaSkreech: i can give that a try08:24
buzDaSkreech: yeah i know08:24
buzi also know that the kopete guys have a fix08:25
DaSkreechbuz: in #kopete they have the answer in the topic08:25
buzyeah i know08:25
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buzbut i dont like the idea of building kopete on my laptop08:25
gregwhat's the key combo for switching tabs in konsole ?08:25
_kalmyou know whats funny? Kubuntu works better on my iMac G3 233mhz 64 RAM than ubuntu,, and kde is supposed to nee more power than Gnome!08:26
DaSkreechWell check out the SVN commit and see if you can replicate it outside of rebuilding08:26
elDeucewhen i plug my camera into the usb port and run dmesg in konsole i get this error08:26
elDeuce[17183327.512000]  FAT: Directory bread(block 510) failed08:26
elDeuce[17183327.512000]   4:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device08:26
elDeuce[17183327.512000]  FAT: Directory bread(block 511) failed08:26
elDeuce[17183661.848000]  usb 3-1: USB disconnect, address 608:26
buzDaSkreech: its a patch against a code file, not config08:27
flaketime to get down with some et charlie brown08:27
greg_kalm up until dapper all the kde i ever tried was faster and lighter than the comparable 'nome08:27
buzso rebuild is probably required08:27
flakeltr08:27
DaSkreechlater08:27
DaSkreechbuz: then use http://go.icq.com for now08:28
buzna gaim works08:28
buzugly as hell08:28
greganyone know the short cut keys to switch tabs in konsole ?08:28
buzbut it works08:28
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DaSkreechgreg: Ctrl+PgUP ?08:28
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gregDaSkreech ty08:28
gregeeek what is the  .local  dir in the home dir all about ?08:29
gregnever seen a system do that before...08:29
DaSkreechFor the Trash?08:30
chendoquick question: does the desktop version contain gparted or something in case i have to resize partitions?08:30
DaSkreechNo08:30
dominatrixDasSkreech: now that ive gone through that rigamarole, im guessing the next step is restart X?08:30
elDeuceanyone know anything about digital cameras and kubuntu?08:30
DaSkreechdominatrix: Sounds like a plan08:30
dominatrixDaSkreech: heres hoping08:30
vigilanteDaSkreech: good ol FF08:31
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DaSkreechvigilante: If you had let it load in kwrite then saved it it would have had he same effect :)08:31
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DaSkreechhi noiesmo :)08:31
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DaSkreechYour XGL page seems to be quite the hit :)(08:32
dominatrixDaSkreech: you sir are a god! where should i send you the n*de photo of myself as payment?(dont worry, im a girl)08:32
DaSkreechHa ha08:33
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DaSkreechAnd a dominatrix I'll bet :)08:33
gregDaSkreech yep it's a trash thing all right.   not anyway to turn trash off ?    cause that will get in the way, when i symlink /usr/local  to ./.local    ???08:33
gregs/not/now/08:33
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noiesmoDaSkreech, hey there :)08:34
DaSkreechgreg: Why on earth would You do that?08:34
DaSkreechnoiesmo: Thanks a lot for that link08:34
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dominatrixDaSkreech: yup, its nice making your husband stomp away from the PC by sayin somethin like that, he was over my shoulder the whole time, had to get rid of him somehow08:34
DaSkreechProbably mad he doesn't get pics sent to him :)08:34
hunt0runsermake -f admin/Makefile.common cvs08:35
hunt0r./admin/cvs.sh: line 33: --version: command not found08:35
hunt0r*** AUTOCONF NOT FOUND!.08:35
hunt0r*** KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or newer08:35
dominatrixDaSkreech: nope, he should be happy though, he has the real thing08:35
hunt0rhi, all when I try to compile Amarok from source I get this error08:35
dominatrixreally? thats odd....08:35
_kalmhas anyone used Wine or Cedega here? how does the performance compare?08:35
hunt0rbut autoconf is installed08:35
greganyone know if trash can be disabled ?08:35
DaSkreechhunt0r: Why are You compiling from source?08:36
hunt0rDe08:36
hunt0rDaSkreech: I want to ttry the newest cvs version08:36
dominatrixi think i smell a proggie rewrite08:36
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gregcommand 'groups' shows the primary group first ?08:37
DaSkreechhunt0r: Maybe try installing autoconf?08:38
DaSkreechdominatrix: What lang?08:38
DaSkreechShould08:38
gregthe man page is blank on that point!08:38
hunt0r[08:35:50]  <hunt0r> but autoconf is installed08:38
RobNycdaaamnn ubuntu mirrors are slow today08:38
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DaSkreechhunt0r: Ah Which version?08:38
RobNychehe08:39
hunt0r2.59a-708:39
CpuWhizhas anyone had a problem where a kde app stops letting you type stuff? (I am using KDE 3.5.3 and scim for ocassional Japanese input)08:39
chendokubuntu comes with partition tools for the install, yeah?08:40
DaSkreechErm not sure then08:40
DaSkreechchendo: It uses them yes08:40
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chendocool, ta08:40
dominatrixDaSkreech: oh, sorry was installing kuake, eng08:41
DaSkreechdominatrix: ha ha I meant what language are you rewriting the program in?08:41
dominatrixDaSkreech: one of the growing number of americans to join the tux revolution08:41
DaSkreechdominatrix: Get yakuake :)08:42
dominatrixDaSkreech: yakuake?08:42
noiesmoDaSkreech, sorry about that just logon then phone goes off chatting to a mate, yeh there has been a few hits to site it's all good.08:42
DaSkreechYes08:42
dominatrixDaSkreech: better version?08:42
DaSkreechnoiesmo: You still update it from time to time?08:42
DaSkreechdominatrix: yeppers08:42
dominatrixnice08:42
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DaSkreechdominatrix: So I guess you will be hanging around here for a few weeks then?08:43
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noiesmoDaSkreech, did about 3-4 weeks ago will have to check it over again but will keep it up to date :)08:43
DaSkreechSchweet :)08:44
DaSkreechI hosed my system so I'm going to try and format and try again :)08:44
noiesmoDaSkreech, if i want to move it from its current link to another is it easy to update the bot08:44
DaSkreechYeah08:44
dominatrixDaSkreech: couple weeks? im a genius, but linux can spit PC programmers like even ME out! try till i get booted and banned!08:44
DaSkreechJust ping me or someone responsive in -devel08:44
DaSkreechdominatrix: What language do you program in?08:45
gregDaSkreech that's the way i learned everything i know about linux...  'the trial and reformat method'08:45
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noiesmocool i'll let someone know when I've move it but will keep old one going for a while after08:45
DaSkreechgreg: I don't need to reformat :) I can fix the problem if I really want08:45
dominatrixDaSkreech: c++ mainly, although i landed a sweet gig for EALA doing 128 bit hex entry08:45
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DaSkreechBut I'm thinking of dualing with Edgy08:46
gregDaSkreech formating and reinstalling is fixing it...08:46
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dominatrixDaSkreech, i need Cedega...08:46
DaSkreechA dominatrix programmer :) or is that a programming dominatirx :-s08:46
elDeucemount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb08:46
elDeucemount: you must specify the filesystem type08:46
dominatrixDaSkreech: though i heard VMware went public and free08:46
elDeucewhat does this mean08:46
DaSkreechdominatrix: Might be in the commercial repos08:46
_kalmhm, whats the best language to start programming in??? many say Python is good... but i dont know about that08:46
DaSkreechdominatrix: but the best bet is to hit the site I would guess08:47
gregelDeuce means that /dev/usb is not a filesystem08:47
dominatrixPython is ok, if you have a good base to start from08:47
DaSkreechelDeuce: You need something like -t vfat08:47
dominatrixhonestly? grab qbasic and learn from there08:47
elDeucegreg: i never specified /dev/usb08:47
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DaSkreech_kalm: python isn't bad08:47
hunt0r_kalm: try java ;)08:47
insanekane_kalm: i strongly suggest python08:48
DaSkreech_kalm: I'd say it depends on how deep into programming you expect to get08:48
dominatrixDaSkreech: yeah, but i hate paying for crap for an open source OS08:48
gregelDeuce if the node is there then the fs is not partition 1     try the whole disk08:48
DaSkreechHa ha That's not fair :)08:48
DaSkreechdominatrix: Get WINE then08:48
elDeuceDaSkreech: thanks, that changed the error to -- mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist08:48
gregmount /dev/sda /mnt/usb08:48
elDeuceDaSkreech: it worked like 15 minutes ago08:48
dominatrix_kalm: if your gonna go hardcore, its best to learn how it was done way ack in the olden times08:48
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dominatrixDaSkreech: yeah Right, Wine doesnt stand a chance of running guild wars properly08:49
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DaSkreechOoeerr a Guilide08:49
dominatrixDaSkreech: ive tried08:49
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dominatrixDaSkrech: yup Rohars Roughnecks, great guild, been with them for 6 months, and wont quit08:50
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DaSkreechWell You can pull the cedega CVS and that's free08:51
_kalmi have looked at Python,,, seems simple and nice, perl was interestin too, but its more internet thing isnt it? C++ seem difficult!! i dont know much about those languages08:51
DaSkreechthey don't charge for that08:51
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_kalmbut something that might even get me a career08:51
DaSkreechJust be good. People will pay for you08:52
QuaruptedCan konversation do multiple servers?08:52
elDeuceDaSkreech: if i mounted my usb key and it worked fine like 30 minutes ago, how come it won't work now?08:52
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DaSkreechelDeuce: Fluke?08:53
DaSkreechWell I'm off to bed all08:53
dominatrixDaSkreech: the CVS is free? where can i nab that at?08:53
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DaSkreechCheck the forums on Cedega08:54
bur[n] eranyone around who knows how to use tango with KDE?  i can't get the folder icons to go away from crystal08:55
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imbrandonQuarupted, yes08:58
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Quaruptedimbrandon: Yes what?08:58
imbrandon[01:52]  <Quarupted> Can konversation do multiple servers?08:59
QuaruptedOh sorry was so long ago08:59
Quaruptedman its a nicer client than i thought08:59
imbrandonheh about 8 or nine minutes ;)08:59
QuaruptedAs good as Xchat minus scripting stuff08:59
intelikeybrand new fresh install.  and dist-upgrade already says..08:59
intelikey73 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.08:59
intelikeyNeed to get 154MB of archives.08:59
imbrandonQuarupted, konversation uses python scipting if you want09:00
DaSkreechAnd They just added the abilty to complete your own name :)09:00
DaSkreechimbrandon: Ha Kwin is a compositing manager now !09:00
QuaruptedIts nicer than it was last time09:00
QuaruptedI wont even bother to get Xchat for now09:00
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imbrandonQuarupted, nightly builds of konv are up on buntudot.org if you wanna stay on the bleeding edge ;)09:00
Quaruptedwish there was like Xirssi09:00
intelikeyisn't there09:01
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intelikeythere is xbitchx09:01
QuaruptedI like irssi better than bitchx09:01
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elDeuceanyone know of a way to make a shortcut on the desktop that i can click and it will run a terminal command?09:03
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DeshHow do I check to see if my Kubuntu is set up to use 2 monitors?09:03
intelikeyelDeuce make a script09:03
imbrandonelDeuce, make a scipt09:03
DeshIt shows two monitors in the display settings even tho one is set to the status: <unknown>09:04
imbrandonbrb afk , not sure Desh09:04
elDeucehow do i make a script? sorry, i'm new09:04
DaSkreechmossman, dominatrix: It was nice meeting you. Hope I see you again. Shout at me if you see me :)09:04
DaSkreech Night noiesmo09:04
dominatrixokay, i just bought and DLed Cedega, and got a .deb package, but every time i try and install it, it says that its not in my PATH, any ideas?09:04
dominatrixDaSkreech: wait! one las question!09:05
DaSkreecheek09:05
DaSkreech!script09:05
ubotuI know nothing about script09:05
intelikeyelDeuce open an editor and type the command you want to run then save as text to the file name you like   and point a launcher to it09:05
DaSkreech!bash09:05
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands09:05
DaSkreechdominatrix: What?09:05
dominatrixDaSkreech: I need to know how to install a .deb file, cedega says its not in my PATH09:06
DaSkreechdominatrix: how are you installing it?09:06
intelikeyelDeuce it needs to be execurable also... i omited that.     basicly  anything you would type on the command line can be put in a script. and some other things also.09:06
dominatrixDaSkreech: nvm, i learned the power of right click> actions...lol, im a dummy09:07
_kalmHow do you play music files from another computer in my lan? i havent really succeeded in it...09:07
DaSkreech:-)09:07
noiesmoDaSkreech, night dude catch ya soon09:07
DaSkreechdominatrix: Ok let it open and let me know I'm free09:07
dominatrixDaSkreech, im good, you go if ya need to, im just tryin to find xlibs so ill stop getting dependancy errors09:08
DaSkreechdominatrix: and you know how to go about all that?09:08
dominatrixDaSkreech: not really, but im smart, and i have adept09:09
DaSkreechWhats the time where you are at? Just out of curiosity :)09:09
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DaSkreechdominatrix: So it seems :) Have you added any repos?09:09
dominatrixDaSkreech: 1:09 AM09:09
intelikeyelDeuce paste this in a terminal -->    echo -e "\#!/bin/sh \n\n echo 'hell-o world!'" >> ~/myscript && chmod 755 ~/myscript ; ~/myscript09:10
intelikeythen you cna use it.  modify to suit your needs.09:10
insanekane_kalm: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/388209:10
elDeuceintelikey: i need -- mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera -- on my desktop09:10
_kalmok thak you09:11
elDeuceintelikey: so that my g/f can mount her camera without my aid09:11
DaSkreech!tell dominatrix about repositaries09:11
ubotuI know nothing about repositaries09:11
DaSkreech!tell dominatrix about repositories09:11
dominatrixDaSkreech: ive enabled just about everything in sources.list09:11
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DaSkreechdominatrix: There are more than that There is also Multiverse09:11
DaSkreech!tell dominatrix about Multiverse09:12
jronanyone have probs with their desktop becoming 100% unresponisive with the newest kubuntu build?09:12
DaSkreechThat should keep in the good till tomorrow09:12
intelikeyelDeuce  echo -e "\#!/bin/sh \n\nmount /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera" > ~/myscript && chmod 755 ~/myscript09:12
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elDeucejron: nope09:12
intelikeyand make a launcher that points to it.09:12
DaSkreechdominatrix: See you! Good night tell the rest of the family I said Hi and good night09:12
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dominatrixDaSkreech, i know all that, but do i need to add multiverse to the resticted repo entries too?09:12
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DaSkreechNope09:12
elDeuceintelikey: i get this error -su: !/bin/sh: event not found09:13
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dominatrixDaSkreech: night, ill figure it out, and if not, ill whine till i get it09:13
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jronmy desktop has died 3 times in 1 day from right clicking on icons =(09:13
DaSkreechjron: It logged you out?09:14
dominatrixgod, i cant remember the command to unlock adept, it crashed, :P09:14
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intelikeyelDeuce ok try that one >>>     echo -e "#\!/bin/sh \n\nmount /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera" > ~/myscript && chmod 755 ~/myscript09:14
elDeucejron: have you rebooted since the upgrade?09:14
DaSkreechdpkg --configure -a09:14
DaSkreechThat normally works for me09:14
jronDaSkreech: no, the desktop just stops working =(09:14
jronelDeuce: yes, i have =(09:14
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DaSkreechjron: doesn't refresh itself?09:15
intelikeysimple mistake.  escaped the comment   rather than the not    hmm oh well.09:15
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jronnope, mousing over it just shows a pointing finger DaSkreech09:15
elDeuceintelikey: where did it same it to?09:15
intelikey~09:15
elDeucesave*09:15
jronicons end up vanishing,.,,,09:15
intelikeythat's your home09:15
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intelikey~ expands to the users home.09:16
DaSkreechdominatrix: What just happened?09:16
elDeuceintelikey: umm, it's not in /home09:16
DaSkreechjron: That's happened twice to me but the desktop just kills itself and restarts09:16
intelikeyno your home is not /home09:16
intelikeyyour home dir.    /home/eldeuce09:16
intelikeyor what ever it is.09:16
dominatrixDaSkreech, had to reset X to get adept workin again09:16
jronDaSkreech: wish mine would restart itself :P09:17
jronabout to switch to xubuntu =(09:17
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elDeuceintelikey: nope, not there either09:17
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dominatrixDaSkreech: i cant find anything but xlibs-dev in the list...09:17
DaSkreechThat may be what you need09:17
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elDeuceintelikey: sorry, i'm not trying to be dense. this is my 4th day with linux09:17
elDeuceintelikey: i typed in exactly what you gave me09:18
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dominatrixim getting annoyed09:18
exceswaterhi all09:18
elDeuceintelikey: even if i put sudo in front of the cmd you gave it it still doesnt show up in /home/kyle09:18
elDeuceexceswater:  hi09:18
exceswaterhi elDeuce09:19
jronnot gona lie... ubuntu is way harder to install packages than gentoo =(09:19
exceswaterwho can help me with a small problem09:19
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jronmplayer isn't even on the list.09:19
exceswateri need to compress a video09:19
exceswatermpg09:19
exceswaterin kubuntu09:19
exceswater...09:19
jronjust kmplayer which doesn't even load xvid =(09:19
intelikeyelDeuce if you sudo it it will put it in /root/09:19
exceswaterdoes any1 knows how09:19
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SunnyblizardHi all09:20
dominatrixDaSkreech: i cant find xlibs or any mention of it anywhere, either thru apt or adept...09:20
exceswater!compress09:20
ubotuI know nothing about compress09:20
jronpeople are saying install automatix... but this will be the 3rd package manager i have installed... kinda retarted =(09:20
exceswater!video09:20
ubotuI know nothing about video09:20
exceswater!mpg09:20
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:20
exceswater!compres09:20
ubotuI know nothing about compres09:20
DaSkreechMaybe you need xlibs-dev?09:20
intelikeyelDeuce in the irc client type /exec -o ls ~/myscript -l09:21
dominatrix!xlibs09:21
ubotuI know nothing about xlibs09:21
elDeuceintelikey: i did a Find for the myscript and it's in /(root)09:21
DaSkreechdominatrix: try http://packages.ubunut.com09:21
DaSkreechhtpp://packages.ubuntu.com09:21
dominatrixDaSkreech: i Installed it, but no go...09:21
DaSkreechdang09:21
Sunnyblizard!services09:21
ubotuI know nothing about services09:21
DaSkreechhttp://packages.ubuntu.com09:22
Sunnyblizardservice09:22
DaSkreechHa ha:)09:22
Sunnyblizard!service09:22
ubotuI know nothing about service09:22
jronexceswater: where is mplayer? in gentoo i could just emerge mplayer then mplayer <xvidfile> to play a vid. =(09:22
DaSkreechthen you can whine all you like :)09:22
jroni really don't care for gstreamer.09:22
intelikeyyeah you made one there when you did it sudo... elDeuce there is one in your home/dir/ also if you ever ran that as a user.  and not as root.09:22
DaSkreechjron: kmplayer?09:23
elDeuceintelikey: ahh there is goes09:23
exceswateri can play the file09:23
exceswateri need to compress it :D09:23
elDeuceintelikey: i was logged in as root09:23
intelikeyelDeuce at any rate.  you can use that.   just point a launcher at it.09:23
jronDaSkreech: i installed kmplayer... but it looks to use something called kmplayerlib to play vids... which isnt working.09:23
DaSkreech!xvid09:23
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:23
jronwith normal mplayer i could just launch it from the console.09:23
elDeuceintelikey: okay, so it is in my home dir - how do i click on it and it run the command instead of just opening text editor09:23
elDeuceintelikey: what is a launcher?09:23
DaSkreechjron: To play xvid read those links09:24
DaSkreechWell night again09:24
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jronDaSkreech: ill check um out, just confused as to why mplayer isnt in the repos. =(09:24
dominatrixDaSkreech: cedega installed fine, i dont understand why it was bein a poo about xlibs09:25
jronthese links just seem to tell me: install gstreamer.... which is not what i wana use =(09:25
intelikeyelDeuce on the desktop   right click  >  create new > link to application.09:25
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elDeuceintelikey: am i looking for a program called launcher?09:27
intelikeyelDeuce no you are looking for  ~/myscript09:27
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ryantriphey whats the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu09:28
elDeuceintelikey: okay, lets see if i did this right09:28
koshubuntu defaults to gnome, kubuntu defaults to kde09:29
koshthat is it09:29
koshother then that they are identical09:29
ryantripwhich is better?09:29
koshsame repository for all packages etc09:29
koshit depends on which you like more kde or gnome09:29
koshall choosing kubuntu/ubuntu does is installation defaults09:29
ryantripwhat does each one surve?09:29
koshI prefer kde more then gnome however this is the kubuntu channel09:29
ryantripyea09:30
koshwhat do you mean what does each one serve?09:30
ryantripwhat is he difference between gnome and kde09:30
elDeuceintelikey: okay cool. it works09:30
intelikeyelDeuce congradulations.  you just wrote your first linux program(with a little help).   and only four days into it.    kewl!     :)09:30
koshhmm not sure how to cover that09:30
koshthey are both fairly different desktops that work in different ways however any software in one you can run in the other09:31
elDeuceis there a way to add a couple lines so that it will auto log into root so she wont have to worry about it?09:31
koshgnome is more minimalist, kde is more configurable and integrated in my viewpoint09:31
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ryantripok so what if i wanted it on my mac? is it better?09:31
intelikeyelDeuce you can set the 'launcher' you made on your desktop to run sudo befor the script.09:32
koshit depends on what you are doing09:32
intelikeyright click it and 'configure' it.09:32
koshif you write software for a living I would say that kde is better then the macosx09:32
ryantripbut if its for person use, then ubutntu09:32
ryantrip?09:33
elDeuceintelikey: but doesnt sudo ask for a password?09:33
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intelikeyelDeuce also as i said eariler.  anything you could do on the command line, just put it in the script.09:33
intelikeyelDeuce yes it will09:33
koshdepends on what your personal usage is09:33
koshwhat I would do is just try both and see which you like more09:33
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ryantripidk how to tell the difference09:34
intelikeythe only way you can get root access to that without a password is to edit /etc/sudoers     and you aint ready for that yet.   besides it would be a security hole you could fly the space shuttel throuth09:34
elDeucehow come when i click on the shortcut on the desktop the new window sits there for like a minute saying "Loading Application" and then goes away09:35
koshinstall both and try for yourself09:35
koshelDeuce: the timeout for how long the system puts the waiting thing there expired09:35
elDeuceintelikey: can i PM you? other talk is giving me a headache09:35
koshelDeuce: what are you trying to do?09:35
intelikeyelDeuce you can configure it to "run in a terminal"   when you click the launcher.09:36
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elDeucekosh: working on making my first linux script09:36
koshah09:36
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denis_hey guys09:36
denis_just installed kubuntu09:36
intelikeyelDeuce yeah if you are regestered09:36
denis_does anyone know why my sound icon has a red X over it and why i dont have sound? lol. I'm a total newb i'm sorry09:37
elDeucedenis_: congrats09:37
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denis_I just want to familiarize myself with unix-based OS. Figured I'd go with this one.09:38
DeshIs it possible to install fglrx 8.24.8 on Xorg 7.0?09:38
koshdenis_: where do you see a red X at?09:38
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denis_in the tray09:39
elDeucedenis_: is it possible it is muted?09:39
koshah hmm09:39
RawSewageNew Linux kernel tonight09:39
elDeucedenis_: when mine is muted i have a dash across it09:39
RawSewagebig update09:39
denis_i dont think so.. i didnt set it on mute, and i cant seem to get to the "mixer"09:39
koshRawSewage: you compiled your own kernel?09:39
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RawSewage106 mb09:39
RawSewagekosh, hell no09:39
DeshRawSewage: Which version? 2.6.15-26?09:39
koshdenis_: can you right click on it and see any options?09:39
denis_when i click on it, "kmix" opens, but there's nothing under "current mixer" for me to choose in the combo box09:40
RawSewageDesh, yes09:40
koshRawSewage: oh I see an update to the dapper one, doesn't effect me since I don't use that kernel09:40
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koshdenis_: what sound card do you have?09:40
DeshRawSewage: Sweet, I got it already. :)09:40
RawSewageDesh, when09:40
denis_its some kind of intergrated one that comes with the compaq deskpro model09:40
DeshRawSewage: A few hours ago. Adept was like, yo you got updates, and I was like, cool.09:40
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koshdenis_: can you use lspci and find out what kind of sound card you have? just type that in a konsole window09:41
RawSewagelol09:41
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denis_It doesnt seem to say anything about audio / sound.09:42
koshthat is strange09:43
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denis_it just says some Host:Bridge Intel Corp. 440BX/ etc etc type of stuff09:43
stankshi...me again09:44
Deshthe fglrx installer says I am running an i686 arch, but I installed the 386 version of ubuntu and have been using that kernel and those restricted modules, is that ok?09:44
stanksi have a question about packages09:44
denis_then AGP bridge, Ethernet controller, ISA bridge, IDE interface, USB controller, :\09:44
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RawSewagekosh, you still have Breezy?  or are you using Eft09:44
stankscan i install packages from dapper to breezy09:44
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stanksi am not talking about base system files, but about utils, apps, etc.09:45
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denis_kosh: any clue?09:46
koshRawSewage: dapper with some sid and custom kernel09:46
RawSewageare you that person that likes to strip everything down09:46
koshdenis_: usually you end up with an entry like 0000:00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)09:46
koshdenis_: if yours does not say audio in any of them that is bizarre as heck09:46
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berkesgood morning world.09:46
koshdenis_: since that would mean the system coudl not even find a define that called itself an audio device and thus no hope of having it run09:47
RawSewagelean mean kernel09:47
koshno mine is not realy stripped down09:47
koshI just needed some stuff outside the 2.6.15 kernel series09:47
denis_ouch... so there's no way for me to get audio to work on this thing? :\09:47
berkesis anyone here using kubuntu on a laptop with wifi? (and travelling or moving from network to network a lot)09:47
denis_cuz that's just depressing09:47
koshdenis_: you just said the lspci is showing that there is no audio on the system, that is VERY strange I have not seen that on any box in 10 years09:47
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koshdenis_: even soundcards that don't work have always been found before in the systems I have worked with09:48
denis_hah wow. Cuz i DO have audio, cuz i had it on windows run pretty smoothly.09:48
jroncan anyone inform me as to why the hell mplayer won't install, i checked the forums and everyone says, uncomment all the repos in sources.list then apt-get install mplayer-386... which does jack in my case.09:48
koshit might be some kind of software audio instead of hardware audio09:48
koshso the system can't find it09:48
berkesI cannot find the right tools for managing my wifi in an easy way. Right now I have some shell scripts that I run as sudo,09:48
denis_hm. thats pretty lame. :(09:48
berkesbut there /must/ be some way to automate this better, not?09:48
cox377jron: run update09:49
jronwhy isn't the most popular video player for nix not in the repos =(09:49
koshdenis_: can you tell me the exact model number of your compaq machine?09:49
jroncox377: i have, but thank you for your reply.09:49
flaccid_i just copied a bunch of stuff through fish09:49
koshjron: it is in multiverse09:49
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koshjron: just enable that repository and install it09:49
denis_It just says COMPAQ DESKPRO on the case.09:49
flaccid_now the dirs are coming up in fish as ULAW (sun) Audio wtf?09:49
koshno model number?09:49
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jronive looked in synaptic, the kde package mon and through apt get with the konsole.... no luck09:50
denis_not on the case no09:50
jronall sources in sources.list are uncommented as well.09:50
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intelikeyah much better...09:51
Search4LancerI had a program that I used to monitor exactly what was going through my connection.... don't remember the name of it though... any ideas?09:51
intelikeygkrealm  maybe   idk09:52
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DeshHow do I move a windows that is too long?09:52
berkesSearch4Lancer: netsat?09:52
berkestss. netstat.09:52
koshdenis_: there are about 200 deskpros that are all different09:52
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koshdenis_: unless you know the specific model I can't help with that09:53
intelikeyrrr sorry gkrellm09:53
denis_ouch. lol. ok let me see.09:53
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DeshI have a window that is too long and I cannot see the bottom hoc an I move it up?09:53
intelikeyDesh grab it with   [alt]  left mouse09:53
Deshintelikey, thanks.09:53
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denis_KOSH: http://used-monitors.com/buru/images/catalog/used_systems/Compaq Deskpro Desktop 733 Mhz.JPG09:54
denis_thats what the model looks like.09:54
intelikeyplay with twm a little while you pick up things like that  :)09:54
Deshthe old fglrx, I am making it make a ubuntu deb, should I choose ubuntu daper or ubuntu 6.04?09:54
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denis_lo but i guess thats little hlep09:54
Search4Lancerberkes, etc: It spit out information similar to how netstat does it, but it was an actual graphical program, not a terminal one09:55
intelikeydapper or 6.4  ???09:55
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Desh6.04, yes that and a bunch of breezy and hoary are alternatives.09:55
berkesSearch4Lancer: Ksystemlog09:55
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Search4Lancernope09:56
koshdenis_: sorry I just can't find the information on it, the support site for it is close to worthless09:57
koshdenis_: it lists the model on one page and when you click on it for more information it lists a whole bunch of other models but not that one anymore09:57
intelikeylsb_release -a09:57
denis_yeah, its pretty hopeless. :( *frustrated09:57
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intelikeyanyone around that knows something about the system ?09:58
Search4Lancerfound it: Ethereal09:58
koshdenis_: yours is the first system I have ever seen where linux could not even find the onboard audio sorry09:59
koshdenis_: the odds of making it work would be close to nil09:59
fek_moin09:59
denis_lol. gotcha.09:59
Deshwhat do linux headers do?09:59
denis_thanks for trying man, i appreciate it :)09:59
jronis the multiuniverse not already in the sources.list to be uncommented?10:00
jronif not, what is the address to the multiuniverse?10:00
TheMoebiusyay amoraK crashed as I was transferring files to my ipod and then Kmail crashed as I was trying to submit the backtrace.10:01
jronbecause mplayer is def listed as a package and does NOT exist when i apt get it.10:01
intelikeyjron just add the word to the end of any line.10:01
jronintelikey: ?10:01
koshkmail crashed on you?10:01
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jronadd multiuniverse?10:01
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koshjust uncomment the multiverse line then sudo apt-get update10:02
intelikeyjron   deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse10:02
intelikeyjust add it to the end of the line  ^10:02
jronkosh, i've looked over my sources.list 100 times and the word multi is NOT in the file.10:02
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jronk, i will try that intelikey10:02
koshTheMoebius: you may want to install memtest86+ and then reboot to run the tests10:02
koshjron: that is very strange the default file has it10:03
namibian_menx?10:03
TheMoebiuskosh: I'm too scared to do that...10:03
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koshTheMoebius: you don't know what know if the memory is bad?10:03
intelikeyyou can add universe multiverse to any line except special repos.  like seaves.org10:04
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jronthank christ intelikey, that worked.10:04
intelikeypatrick88296 the kubuntu live  has ssh  no?10:04
TheMoebiuskosh: well i fear the memory is bad and that would suck a lot10:05
TheMoebiusgrrrrr10:05
TheMoebiusok what must be done must be done10:05
TheMoebiuspray for me please.10:06
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intelikeyi wish i could find someone with a clue....10:06
intelikeythat could tell me why anyone would setup an init script to do this...10:07
intelikey 3980 ?        Ss     0:00 /bin/dd bs 1 if /proc/kmsg of /var/run/klogd/kmsg10:07
intelikeydd is running full time.... on every default *ubuntu system.10:07
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DeshI have a source duirectory for the fglrx driver, how would I build and install this?10:12
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__osh___intelikey: I'd like to think I have a clue. What's the problem.10:19
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intelikey__osh___ why is  dd running on your system ?10:19
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intelikeyis there not a better way to log kernel messages than using an external app like dd ?10:20
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jacques_bonjour10:21
intelikeybonjourno10:21
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__osh___intelikey: dd isn't running on my system. is it on yours?10:25
intelikey__osh___ what are you running ?10:25
__osh___intelikey: kubuntu dapper10:25
intelikeyme too10:25
__osh___intelikey: you know what dd does, don't you?10:26
intelikey__osh___ ps -A x | grep /bin/dd10:26
intelikeyof course.10:26
intelikey 3980 ?        Ss     0:00 /bin/dd bs 1 if /proc/kmsg of /var/run/klogd/kmsg10:26
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__osh___intelikey: Looks like it's getting info from /proc/kmesg and logging those msgs to kmsg. Kernel messages iirc.10:28
__osh___intelikey: Why does that bother you?10:28
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_rince_where have the smp kernel-images gone?10:28
_rince_is 686 now implicitly smp?10:29
fek__rince_: apt-cache search smp10:29
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z00mgreetings all10:29
intelikey__osh___ looks like the init team takes for granted that /bin/dd is always handy.   and that no one cares if it's running.       i wonder how hard it'd be to exploid that...10:30
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_rince_ah, haven't read the description ... so smp is turned on by default?10:30
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z00mneed some help installing nvidia drivers for my gfx card, already set them up the otherday and decided to format kubuntu so i could have windows XP also on dual boot. do i just have to install the nvidia-gtx ?10:31
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z00mcan't remeber if i needed to check kernal version also10:32
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kuzmasterhello all10:33
kuzmastercan somone please tell me how to mount a cd?10:33
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abattoirz00m: i think it'd be nvidia-glx10:34
__osh___intelikey: I'd assume that dd is always availible. Haven't seen a system without dd for quite some time. Why shouldn't the init-team take dd for granted? That's how you build stuff, using previous work by others. As for the exploit part, I'm sure there's a way. If you find it you'll make us all a favor.10:34
abattoir!info nvidia-glx10:34
ubotunvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In repository restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-3 (dapper), package size 3963 kB, installed size 12240 kB10:34
abattoirkuzmaster: through the command line?10:34
kuzmasteryeah10:34
z00mabattoir: thanks i thought it was that.10:34
RawSewagekuzmaster, easiest way is to right click in your Home folder and10:34
RawSewagekuzmaster, Make New -  Link to Device10:35
accumulatorare there more ppl that have had problems with the 127.0.0.1/lo interface?10:35
kuzmasterok, thanx10:35
RawSewagethen double click your new icon10:35
abattoirkuzmaster: 'sudo mount /dev/hdc' check what device your cdrom is.... 'dev/?'10:35
intelikey__osh___ i'm too lazy to look for it...    but i'll circumvent dd continuously running on my box.  ;/10:35
abattoirz00m: oh, i thought you had got the package wrong 'nvidia-gtx'10:36
accumulatordapper seems to NOT assign 127.0.0.1 to the lo interface10:37
accumulator..but it could be my foobar10:37
__osh___intelikey: sorry, I didn't get that last part. circumvent dd? It doesn't make sense to me. Perhaps because english isn't my native language.10:37
z00mabattoir: iwas just double checking ;)10:38
intelikey__osh___ with all the code that has gone into the kernel.  one would asume there would be a way for the kernel to dump it's error messages to a file without having to have dd hold the door open for it.      oh circ...dd i'll make it not run all time here.10:38
abattoirz00m: oh, ok :)10:38
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z00mabattoir: im just in the process of doing an update with adept updater, so ill install the nvidia-gtk after that because there is updates for my kernal10:40
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accumulatordoes anyone here have no 127.0.0.1 assigned to their lo interface?10:40
abattoiraccumulator: its assigned automatically for me10:41
intelikeysudo is to console as gksudo is to gnome-termenal as ??? is to konsole10:41
z00minet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.010:41
accumulatorabattoir: you're running dapper?10:41
z00mthats on my lo10:41
abattoiraccumulator: yes10:41
__osh___intelikey: I'm sure it'd take about 20 sec to write a file-logging module to the kernel, but why bother when the tool is already out there? I get your point but I don't really see the problem. The less code the kernel devels have to focus on, the less chances there are that a bug will be introduced.10:41
abattoirintelikey: gksudo:kdesu10:41
accumulatormy 127.0.0.1 vanished after package upgrades10:41
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accumulatorI added it manually to /etc/network/interfaces10:42
accumulatorbut I wondered if it came from the packages or if it was my fault (my /usr ran low on space during upgrade)10:42
z00mtry dhcpcd lo10:42
intelikey__osh___ ture.     so why aren't we still using  linux-1.0  ???10:43
z00mah, dhcpcd is not in this distro10:43
accumulatorz00m: why would you want to use DHCP on lo iface?10:43
PupenoDoes anybody know about a howto to write Sieve scripts ?10:43
z00maccumulator: don't know im just chatting crap .. .lol10:44
accumulatorz00m: thats ok :)10:44
z00m:D10:44
__osh___intelikey: more and better hardware support? better memory management? I'm not saying that one shouldn't introduce features, just that there's no point in reinventing the wheel.10:44
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intelikeybut dd isn't the wheel10:44
intelikeyone could use cat   i guess....10:45
intelikeydoesn't matter.10:45
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accumulatoranyway, not having 127.0.0.1 assigned to lo creates all kinds of weird effects10:45
DeshCan someone help me with an uninstallation?10:45
abattoirDesh: uninstallation of what?10:45
intelikeyDesh maybe10:45
accumulatorDesh: tired of windows?10:46
PupenoDesh: just ask about what you want to do.10:46
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__osh___intelikey: I didn't know you could specify blocksize in cat. And dd is more or less a fundamental tool to unix, wouldn't you say?10:46
DeshUninstalling fglrx, apparently there is a diversion error r something of this account.10:46
koshloopback is 127.0.0.1 by definition for tcp/ip10:46
koshchanging it to something else is a great way to break a LOT of things10:46
DeshHere is the apt-get output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1780910:46
accumulatorkosh: I know, but it disappeared on me10:47
koshsudo ifup lo10:47
accumulatorkosh: do you by any chance have a start-symlink to /etc/init.d/loopback in your runlevels?10:47
DeshI tried deleting all the files mentioned but still nothing.10:48
accumulatorkosh: or, do you have a static address definition in /etc/network/interfaces?10:49
intelikey__osh___ i'm tired of arguing about it.   wasn't the GUI a reinvention of the wheel in the same sense,    i don't like a lot of "default" things about *ubuntu.   the installer   the default usage of sudo  and a host of other things i could complain about.    but  klogd and syslogd are both running  they don't need dd to help them...   i'll say no more about it.10:49
RawSewageso... computer runs faster with COmpiz, right10:50
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RawSewageit runs faster with XGL/Compiz, because graphics card is taking over some of the CPU load10:50
RawSewagecorrect?10:50
accumulatorRawSewage: not eniterly true10:50
koshaccumulator: on this box I have a static address defition for eth0 and lo is always static10:50
DeshYay, I solved it, Yay for Google!10:50
koshaccumulator: on other boxes I have eth0 as dhcp but lo is still static10:51
RawSewageaccumulator, sort of true?10:51
D4m4geDesh what was the problem?10:51
__osh___Desh: Perhaps sudo aptitude purge-unused xorg-driver-fglrx10:51
D4m4gei mean how did you solve it?10:51
Deshfglrx wouldn't uninstall.10:51
accumulatorkosh: ok mine disappeared somehow10:51
DeshOh, umm I ran some commands I found in a forum10:51
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D4m4geok10:51
DeshThat got rid of the link10:51
DeshI hate fglrx, it never works.10:51
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accumulatorkosh: prob my fault, since /usr was running full and I was smart/stupid to put noexec mount option on /tmp, maybe that's the reason10:51
D4m4geDesh :)10:52
DeshAnd the normal ati driver used to work but now it went :(10:52
accumulatorRawSewage: especially XV video output is slower10:52
DeshSomehow the open source driver game my mobility 9700 3d in some things like tuxracer.10:52
RawSewageaccumulator, thats true.  I get jerky video playback in fullscreen mode10:52
intelikeyaccumulator noexec on /tmp ?10:52
__osh___intelikey: Agreed. I've got a few pet peevs about unix/linux too. I hadn't noticed the use of dd in that sense. Do what I do. File a feature request about it in launchpad.net.10:52
accumulatorDesh: I try to stick with the 8.24 driver.. that worked for me10:52
accumulatorDesh: 8.26 gives me lots of problems10:53
DeshUh oh...I deleted libGl.so.1...10:53
Desh>_<!10:53
DeshNone have ever worked for me, accumulator10:53
accumulatorintelikey: yeah I use LVM to mount /tmp /usr /var /opt on separate partitions10:53
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phatechenhi10:54
phatechenhow to format a hdd?10:54
Gioacchinohow to exit the cd from the cd rider ?10:54
accumulatorDesh: the open ati driver gives good 2d performance, if you can live without 3d10:54
Gioacchino!cd10:54
ubotuI know nothing about cd10:54
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DeshHow could I get libGL.so.1? I deleted it by accident. :)10:54
DeshI may have a backup, I dunno if it's the right version, I'd rather get it from an install..10:55
RawSewageaccumulator, but video playback aside, is there some truth in what I said?10:55
accumulatorintelikey: but dpkg seems to run scripts from /tmp10:55
intelikeyaccumulator yeah that's not the point.   i was wondering if you thought it would be a security enhancement to dis-allow executables in /tmp      maybe nosuid /tmp   ???10:55
Deshaccumulator: the open source oe used to give me 3d for penguin racer and ever starsiege tribes thru wine, but then it stopped.10:55
abattoirGioacchino: cd from cd rider? try 'eject'10:55
accumulatorRawSewage: I'm no expert, but there are some discussions on that. Right now it is slower, because all windows need to be converted to a texture before rendering10:56
accumulatorRawSewage: there's no GL_texture_from_pixmap driver call yet10:56
RawSewageaccumulator, hm... it seemed faster to me10:56
accumulatorRawSewage: once that is implemented (and XV can render directly to a GL context) it will probably be faster10:57
Gioacchinoabattoir:  eject form the rider or form the icon ???  i had try from rider but it not exit and from the icon is only umount10:57
accumulatorRawSewage: but that's all driver issues10:57
DeshIf I am using Xorg, why would glxgears tell me this: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".10:57
abattoirGioacchino: try unmount, then press the button on the writer... else Alt+f2->eject10:58
Gioacchinoabattoir:  thnacks10:58
Desh:(10:58
abattoirGioacchino: np :)10:58
intelikeywell i think i'll start the long process of customizing this installation...10:58
accumulatorDesh: DRI fails when your driver fails to load10:58
Deshaccumulator: Why would my driver fail to load? I set it up to use the open source ati driver.10:59
Gioacchinoexist activeX for linux ??10:59
accumulatorDesh: the open source ati driver has no 3d and no DRI10:59
Deshaccumulator: Odd, it used to run penguin racer for me, what about the vesa or radeo driver, those any good?11:00
Desh*radeon11:00
accumulatorDesh: you can use software rendering with Mesa, then DRI should not be used11:00
Gioacchinobecause I have a software for windws( I use wine ) when I open it it tell me install activeX for mozilla firefox11:00
Deshaccumulator: How would I do this?11:00
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accumulatorDesh: try googling for a howto11:01
Gioacchinowithout activeX multple function of the program dont work11:01
Nickayhi11:01
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Gioacchino!activeX11:01
ubotuI know nothing about activeX - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com11:01
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DeshGioacchino: You can install activeX on Linux thru Wine11:01
accumulatorgtg11:01
DeshGioacchino: One of my apps did it11:01
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Deshaccumulator: later, anf thanks11:02
Desh[a] ccumulator: later, anf thanks11:02
Desh*and11:02
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GioacchinoI had found this http://linas.org/linux/corba.html11:03
GioacchinoI am italian and I dont spek english good11:04
Nickayi have install ubuntu and i want to ask if i can install KDE enviroment or i must install Kubuntu?11:04
Gioacchinoyou can install kde11:04
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GioacchinoNickay: you have synaptic ?11:04
abattoirNickay: you can install KDE by installing the kubuntu-desktop meta package11:05
abattoir!info kubuntu-desktop11:05
ubotukubuntu-desktop: Kubuntu desktop system. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.85 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB11:05
Nickayabattoir is that the command?11:06
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abattoirNickay: no, the command would be 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'11:06
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Nickayi see11:06
Nickayok11:06
abattoirNickay: you can also install it through your package manager11:06
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abattoiri guess synaptic11:06
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GoAheadi just instaled kubuntu, and seens like sound card is not correctly installed11:13
GoAheadis there some general workaround for this?11:13
Hobbseecrimsun: ping for help with GoAhead's sound problem11:13
RawSewagehttp://blog.outer-court.com/archive/2006-07-10-n48.html11:14
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crimsunGoAhead: hi.11:14
crimsunGoAhead: what sound card is it?11:15
GoAheadhey11:15
GoAheadi don't really know, what command can i use to get the information?11:15
crimsundepends how old the computer is11:15
GoAheadis a new laptop11:16
crimsunok, then ``lspci -v |grep -i Audio''11:16
GoAhead0000:00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 80)11:17
crimsunok, now ``lsmod |grep ^snd_atiixp''11:17
GoAheadpofis@pofis-laptop:~$ lsmod |grep ^snd_atiixp11:18
GoAheadsnd_atiixp_modem       17640  111:18
GoAheadsnd_atiixp             21324  111:18
crimsunok, now ``cat /proc/asound/modules''11:18
GoAheadpofis@pofis-laptop:~$ cat /proc/asound/modules11:18
GoAhead0 snd_atiixp11:18
GoAhead1 snd_atiixp_modem11:18
crimsungood.11:19
crimsunnow, please paste the output from ``amixer -c0'' onto http://pastebin.ca11:19
fre1what about the volume level ? :)11:19
crimsunfre1: we're getting there.11:19
fre1ok :)11:19
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crimsunGoAhead: after you've pastebinned it, please tell us the URL11:20
GoAheadhttp://pastebin.ca/8592211:20
GoAheadthere you go11:20
crimsunok, is this a laptop?11:22
crimsunerr11:22
crimsunyou already answered that11:22
GoAheadyes11:22
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crimsunok, first thing to try is ``amixer set "External Amplifier" off''11:22
crimsunafter that, try playing music11:22
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GoAheadi tryed and youtube video , still no sound11:24
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GoAheaddo you want the output of de last command?11:24
GoAhead*an youtube video11:24
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crimsunGoAhead: no, just try ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav'' to test audio11:26
flaccid_yay default sources have joe11:27
flaccid_i love joe11:27
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crimsunFlash is a horrible test case, because it doesn't actually point to whether audio is audible by default11:27
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GoAheadpofis@pofis-laptop:~$ aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav11:27
GoAheadALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:819:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave11:27
GoAheadaplay: main:544: audio open error: Device or resource busy11:27
flaccidbest test case is kcontrol11:27
intelikeyjoe's own editor11:27
crimsunGoAhead: did you create your own /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc* ?11:28
flaccidgo joe11:28
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intelikeyrecursive acranymns11:28
flaccidyeah the asoundrc will fix/help problems11:28
ubuntu___hallo11:28
flacciddepends on the duplex of your card too11:28
GoAheadcrimsun yes i dit created /etc/asound.conf11:28
NickayWhat about Kubuntu and Linmodems? is there more compatibility with this kind of modems from the other linux distributions?11:28
GoAheadfollowing a FAQ11:28
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crimsunGoAhead: please move it out of the wa.11:28
crimsunway ^11:29
GoAheadremove it?11:29
crimsunor mv /etc/asound.conf /etc/asound.conf.orig11:29
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GoAheaddone11:29
GoAheadstill get the same output11:29
GoAheadpofis@pofis-laptop:~$ aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav11:29
GoAheadALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:819:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave11:29
GoAheadaplay: main:544: audio open error: Device or resource busy11:29
crimsunGoAhead: right, need ``lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*''11:29
flaccidrestart alsa11:29
crimsunGoAhead: use pastebin, please, not here11:30
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GoAheadhttp://pastebin.ca/8592811:30
alfatauhello, i just installed a fresh dapper, and my desktop is completely empty. How to add there my homedir icon and remote places icon?11:30
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crimsunGoAhead: please close Firefox11:31
GoAheaddone11:31
sysrplheloo11:31
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flaccidalfatau: right click on desktop and goto configure desktop11:31
crimsunGoAhead: now try aplay again11:31
GoAheadhttp://pastebin.ca/8593011:32
wohrmi got a weird problem with internet connection, im installing kubuntu on my cousins computer and internet connection works on the livecd, but not in the system11:33
alfatauflaccid: well, i did. but what have i to choose? i'm a newbie11:33
wohrmhowever, if my cousin sticks a pen into the reset hole in the modem&router box it works for one minute and then stops working11:33
crimsunGoAhead: doesn't the Audio/Video control in System Settings have a test?11:33
crimsunGoAhead: or in kcontrol (I don't have access to a KDE install atm)11:33
intelikeysystem settings ???11:34
wohrmthe livecd environment and the kubuntu system seem to be completely set up the same (due to the little box using DHCP)11:34
flaccidalfatau: goto behaviour - file / device icons and show what you want there. anything you can't show auto, right click and create a link to application11:34
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wohrmthe IP address that the box gave the machine is weird, tho. its 62.143.52.xxx11:34
GoAheadcrimsun: yes it does, "Test Sound", "Test MIDI" both have no sound11:34
flaccidyeah you need to get the test sound thing to work11:35
crimsunGoAhead: is this with 'External Amplifier' muted (off) or unmuted (on)?11:35
flaccidyeah that external amp muted can be a biatch!!11:36
flaccidalways gets me11:36
GoAheadi think is muted because of that command you said11:36
sysrplcan i get  some help? my gnome desktop crash and i can;t get back into it11:36
crimsunflaccid: some codecs need it to be muted, others don't11:36
crimsunGoAhead: ok, please unmute it then.11:36
crimsun(``amixer set "External Amplifier" on'')11:37
sysrplthe gnome taskbar blinks and it dumps back out to the xlogin screen when i attempt to load gnome11:37
flaccidare you serious11:37
flaccidthats crazy11:37
GoAheadcrimsun done, still no sound :s11:37
sysrplthe problem started when i was in the gnome theme applet11:37
crimsunGoAhead: np11:37
crimsunflaccid: yes. You wouldn't believe the hacks I've had to put in.11:37
sysrplso i can't get back into gnome at all anymore11:38
flaccidcrazy11:38
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AV1611hello, boys. can anybody consult me of Matrox G400/450/550 x-window  setup issues, please....11:39
alfatauflaccid: ok thanks, but file/device behaviour settings don't seem the dektop's current showed icons...11:39
crimsunGoAhead: ``amixer set "Master Surround" 80%,on && amixer set "Surround" 80%,on && amixer set "Center" on && amixer set "LFE" on && amixer set "Spread Front to Surround and Center/LFE" on11:39
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intelikeysysrpl in your home/dir you could rm .gnome* -r      you loose custom settings, but you can redo that.    and i DO NOT promice that it will fix it.   you man have something else like .gconf  messed  or .session  even    but it's worth a try11:40
Gioacchinohow to enable ASCII code on kubuntu ? ( alt+126  ecc ecc ... )11:41
GoAheadcrimsun still no luck, maybe i should restart?11:41
intelikeys/man/may/11:41
sysrplintelikey: does the .gconf store my current theme?11:41
sysrplbecasue it crahed when i selected crux11:42
intelikeysysrpl i don't know exactly where in your home that info is stored.  i "think"  .gnome2/something11:42
crimsunGoAhead: no, sec, I'm kinda busy atm11:43
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sysrplif i did rm -rf .gnom* would that totally hose everything?11:43
GoAheadcrimsun: allright take your time11:43
crimsunGoAhead: ok, now ``amixer set "Exchange Front/Surround" on''11:43
intelikeysysrpl that would totally hose "nothing"11:43
Gioacchinohow to enable ASCII code on kubuntu ? ( alt+126  ecc ecc ... )11:43
sysrpllike delete the directories as well11:43
sysrplokay11:43
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GoAheadcrimsun: still no luck11:44
crimsunGoAhead: are you sure kmix hasn't zeroed/muted something in software?11:45
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intelikeysysrpl it's drastic/last ditch   i know but one could  rm -r /home/username ;mkdir /home/username ;chown username /home/username      and it will fix it.   that's a full reset to default, install setting.11:45
crimsunGoAhead: also, please confirm that you're using the latest kernel, 2.6.15-26.4411:46
sysrplthanks :p11:46
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intelikeysysrpl i don't sujest ^ that one.  but it will work.    next best thing to a reload.11:47
sysrplwell i am gonna try gnome now11:47
sysrplhopefully cya in a second under gnome :p11:47
GoAheadcrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i17815 and i'm using 2.6.15-25-68611:47
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intelikeysysrpl you can apt-get install mc    and run mc = midnight commander    file manager for the console   helps fix things like that.  you can see what you are doing.11:48
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fraserlo lo11:48
fraseranyone had any experience with the follow wifi problem "ndiswrapper (miniport_init:262): couldn't initialize device: C0000001" ?11:49
intelikeyguess i was late on that one.11:49
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crimsunGoAhead: I can't read that11:49
^TwistYou have a bot, right? Ubotu?11:49
GoAheadcrimsun: can't read what?11:50
intelikey!ubotu11:50
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage11:50
^TwistAh nice11:50
^TwistI'm developing a bot too :D11:50
crimsunGoAhead: the URL you gave me11:50
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DeshHow do I unmount an iso I mounted to a directory? (ie, /media/iso/11:52
Desh)11:52
^Twistumount /dir/to/it11:52
intelikeyumount dir11:52
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DeshK thanks.11:52
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intelikeyalternatively eject file.iso11:53
intelikeyejecting files is cool11:53
crimsunGoAhead: what was it, an image?11:53
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crimsunGoAhead: please use ``amixer set "Headphone Jack Sense" on''11:53
GoAheadyes11:53
Desh:) Man linux makes me feel cool.11:53
z00mquick question, how do i find out my kernel version11:53
Deshuname -r11:53
GoAheada screenshot of kmix11:53
z00mthanks11:53
crimsunGoAhead: (I'm in an ssh session currently)11:54
Deshnp11:54
DeshHow can I do cool stuff like surf the internet from a command line login?11:54
DeshThat would be cool.11:54
intelikeyls /boot  ;uname -a      heheh11:54
abattoirDesh: lynx11:54
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abattoir!info lynx11:54
ubotulynx: Text-mode WWW Browser. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.8.5-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1074 kB, installed size 4552 kB11:54
Desh:-O!11:55
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intelikeyDesh links2  for the console  add -g  for the gui11:55
MuJelinks is so much better these days11:55
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intelikeydoes elinks do pictures ?11:56
MuJdunno.. I don't use it to watch pictures :)11:56
intelikeylinks2 does   just wondered if elinks did11:57
Desh:( I wish I could do video editing on Leenux.11:57
GoAheadcrimsun: still doesn't work, here is the sceen http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot12gr.png11:57
z00mim just installing my GFX card i have the linux-restricted-modules-mykernelversion-amd64-generic installed, do i just need to install the nividia-glx now ?11:57
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crimsunGoAhead: I can't view pictures (a text-only session)11:57
DeshIs there a way to make a minimal XP install, just to run a few apps?11:57
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crimsunGoAhead: let's try blacklisting snd-atiixp-modem11:58
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GoAheadcrimsun: ok, how?11:59
crimsunGoAhead: please edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-modem and uncomment the second line11:59
crimsunGoAhead: then, reboot11:59
intelikeyDesh cli apps you might like  links2/elinks/lynx/w3m are cli web browsers   mc is a file manager   vlc is a multimedia app that can do full screen movies in console mode as well as audio formats    if you were serious about the question.11:59
Desh:-O!12:00
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DeshWow that is crazy, thanks.12:00
GoAheadcrimsun: ok, brb12:01
intelikeyyeah,  i hardly ever start a gui anymore  :)12:01
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Deshintelikey, damn, that is amazing, I will try those out, thanks a bunch, now if only I could get 3d and my smart card reader working, aha.12:01
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intelikeyoh and bitchx/irssi/xchat-text  are all cli irc clients.12:02
omeowWho here has never used ktorrent before and would like to help me with something? (I'm doing a little research.)12:02
z00mive never used it12:02
z00m:P12:02
Deshbitchx - haha. Should I get all of them?12:03
intelikeyfind what you like.12:03
DeshLike, I'm guessing they don't take up much space, and that way I can play around with them and se what I like.12:03
omeowz00m: Would you mind helping me with something then? :)12:03
z00mwhat help could i give if i have never used it .. lol12:04
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omeowWithout starting the program and hovering your cursor over the icons to read the tooltips, can you tell me what the icons in the toolbar do?12:04
omeowhttp://omeow.ath.cx/ktorrent.png12:04
z00mok one sec12:04
omeowJust tell me what you think the icons do.12:04
z00mat the top right ?12:04
intelikeyDesh also  apt-cache search <blah>     apt-get install <blah>     or  aptitude    but i don't like aptitude much12:05
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z00mat the top12:05
omeowTop left.12:05
z00mok first icon i would say makes a new torrent12:05
intelikeyDesh and yes to that question   most cli apps are light compared to their gui cusens.12:05
DeshHOLY S**T!! I can see google with w3m!12:05
z00msecond icon i would say opens a torrent file12:05
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Deshintelikey, oh yea I know about apt-get, and i prefer to use sudo kwrite over the GUI Actions->Edit as root12:06
z00momeow12:06
omeowYes?12:06
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z00mi need to rester my nick so i cant send IM's12:06
z00m:(12:06
omeowAh ok.12:07
omeowContinue then. :)12:07
z00mill put your name on each one i send so it stands out12:07
omeow(type it in a comma seperated list, it's easier to process the data then)12:07
Deshintelikey, would w3m run fine under the Konsole? B/c I can;t figure out how to type a search term in google.12:07
z00momeow: 3rd icon, errm   it looks like a paste button could it be used to paste an tracker url or something12:08
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intelikeyDesh yeah it should.   but try links2 -g12:08
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DeshWHat's that?12:08
z00momeow: 4th looks like a button to start the torrent downloading again after you have stoped it12:09
Deshxchat-text is not found. I got bitchx and irssi was already installed12:09
intelikeysudo apt-get install links2 && links2 -g google.com/linux12:09
z00momeow: 5th looks like a button to stop the selected torrent from downloading12:09
DeshOh I see what you mean.12:10
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GoAheadcrimsun: still no sound, but got some improvements12:10
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intelikeyz00m ah  turn off swap and see what dies ?   lol12:10
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GoAheadcrimsun: aplay isn't returning error anymore12:10
intelikeyz00m seriously the kernel is what is using swap12:10
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z00momeow: 6th looks like a button to delete the selected torrent from the list12:11
intelikeyz00m top can show memory usage iirc.     ksysguard12:11
z00mintelikey: what you on about mate ?? lol12:11
Deshintelikey, how do I exit from these apps?12:12
intelikeyDesh on most hit    Q12:12
intelikeyon some hit    [esc] 12:12
DeshK, thanks.12:12
omeowAnd the last there, z00m? :)12:12
intelikeyDesh on the irc clients   /exit12:12
intelikeyor   /quit12:12
intelikeylike this12:13
z00momeow: not sure of the 7th one12:13
z00momeow: looks like a pay and a small play12:13
z00mplay^12:13
DeshHmmm...12:13
omeowGive it some thought. :)12:13
DeshNow to edit servers...12:13
Deshbitchx rocks.12:13
z00momeow: ok12:13
RawSewagehehe Kubuntu is fun   12:13
flaccidthis may seem like a silly question, but i installed apache and changed the DocumentRoot, but it didn't work12:14
flaccidi set it to /var/www/html, but its using /var/www and there wasn't actually a DocumentRoot directive in the apache2.conf12:14
z00momeow: does it start all torrents download if stopped12:14
z00mdownloading^12:14
crimsunGoAhead: ok12:15
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omeowOk z00m, last two? :)12:15
z00momeow: yes it does because there is a stop button with the same little stop button also12:15
DeshOh man, I love the comments in linux files.12:15
z00momeow: ok next one stops all torrents from downloading12:16
DeshHow do I join a different server in bitchX or irssi?12:16
z00momeow: and the last one with QM is it in the letters, does that mean quick message ?12:16
omeowNo, it's queue manager.12:17
omeowThanks for helping.12:17
z00mhahaha12:17
z00mhow many did i get right12:17
omeow8/912:17
DeshHow do I close w3m? I figured out bitchx is with /quit12:17
z00myay, thats good then12:18
omeowI'm supprised you managed to get the stop all one right, most people think it's minimize/maximize.12:18
z00momeow: because of the big sqaure and the little one12:18
omeowHmhm.12:19
z00momeow: did you make the software / application ?12:19
z00momeow: the stop button could have a sqaure then little text under it saying all12:20
z00msame with play12:20
crimsunGoAhead: please file a bug on malone for it, I'll look later today; have to get ready for work now.12:20
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timonatorim going to repeat my question now. i got some weird ish (german(?) ISP) router+modem thing and it works fine in the livecd. in the installed system you have to stick a pen into the reset button hole in order to be able to use the internet for a few seconds, then it doesnt work any more12:21
z00mbrb got to restart X12:22
GoAheadcrimsun: ok, thanks for everything12:22
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friesOh snap!12:22
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friesIntelikey, you still here?12:22
grizzlyAny way to select and copy text with the keyboard in console12:23
friesGrizzly, right click12:23
grizzlywith the keyboard12:23
friesUse the left button to select and right click and hit copy.12:23
timonatorif you use GNU screen12:23
friesKeyboard I have no clue.12:23
friesI should learn.12:23
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grizzlyso is it possible iwth the keyboard?12:24
friesWhat is an IM service that I can run in CLI?12:24
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flaccidthats a good question, wonder if one exists, tried google?12:25
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Deshintelikey here?12:41
DeshThis is the coolest thing ever.12:42
DeshHas anyone here used vlc in CLI?12:42
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heinrichhi all12:44
heinrichmy diskspace is quite full12:45
heinrichi do not know what i can trow away12:45
timonator:)12:45
timonatorthrow away /tmp and /var/tmp12:45
heinrichsimply delete?12:46
MuJrm -rf /pr0n ;)12:46
timonatordelete the content12:46
heinrichis there a comand that show me the free diskspace?12:46
timonatorMuJ: nah, rm -rf ~/downloads/videos/p0rn/12:46
timonatortry df and df -h12:46
hastesaverheinrich, do "df -h" to see which partitions are taking up the most space. And in your home directory, do "du -ks * .[^.] * | sort -n" to see which are the culprits12:46
KDEfanboy_heinrich: filelight is really good GUI for that imo12:47
heinrichyou think my jenna jameson collection takes too much space? <just joking>12:47
hastesaverheinrich, there's a GUI package is baobab , though I've never used it12:47
heinrichthx i will try what you said12:47
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heinrichwhat menas rm -rf?12:50
heinrichmeans12:50
flaccidrecursive, force12:50
timonatorremove recursively without asking12:50
timonatorbbl12:50
flaccidit can be evil if accidental..12:50
heinrichand if i want to remove the content of tmp?12:52
heinrich rm -rf /tmp12:52
heinrich?12:52
hastesaverheinrich, yes. But make sure you type exactly that --  there is no space between the "/" and the "tmp", for example :)12:52
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omeowz00m: One more question, do you know what a torrent is and have you ever used a different torrent client before?12:55
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heinrichi have 92% of diskspace used01:02
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heinrichhow can i optimize my system?01:05
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insanekaneheinrich: delete some files ?01:06
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heinrichyes, but wich ones?01:06
heinrichi deleted /tmp and /var/tmp01:07
heinrichwhat else?01:07
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ubuntu_Greetings to the room01:13
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berkesI cannot find the right tools for managing my wifi in an easy way. Right now I have some shell scripts that I run as sudo,01:14
berkesbut there /must/ be some way to automate this better, not?01:14
heinrichthx bye01:15
berkeskwifimanager is not really what I am looking for, unless I miss an obvious point in that tool.01:15
flaccidi'd love to hear about a generic gui for wi fi01:15
x_help01:15
berkesI counted my clicks and it requires 12! clicks in order to switch to a (known and preconfigured) wifi net01:15
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flaccidclicks?01:16
berkesflaccid: yes. clicking on buttons and stuff01:16
timonatorflaccid: with the mouse and stuff01:16
timonatorand stuff \o/01:16
flaccidfair enough01:16
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flaccidlike i said i'd love to hear about a generic wi fi manager...01:16
berkescool a rhime: fair enough. and stuff.01:17
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timonatori am really desperate now, on the livecd i get internet connection without a problem. in the installation i can only use the internet during a short period after i push the reset button in the back of the modem and waiting for a few seconds01:17
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arseniqhi, how can i share a folder with win workgroup_?01:19
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berkesso, general conclusion: KDE/kubuntu has no tool for managing wifi nets/connections other then the config thing kwifimanager?01:19
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flaccidberkes: i think thats linux in general, not kde/ubuntu01:21
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berkesflaccid: ubuntu (gnome) has nice and friendly tools.01:22
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flaccidso does kde01:22
flacciddoes gnome have a wi-fi manager?01:23
berkesflaccid: that is the question: wich one.01:23
friesWhy is it that when I am in CLI login every few minutes the splash login comes up again?01:23
flaccidif gnome has a wi-fi manager, it might work in kde.01:24
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berkesflaccid: yea. mebby. Thing is, that if i want to install it trough adept, it comes with the full ubuntu crap. Its not an options to install like 200Megs just to have one tool :)01:25
kuzmasterhey everyone01:25
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grizzlyabout the virtual desktop, how can I switch it off, which package is it, and can it be replaced?01:26
flaccidberkes: so what is the name of this wi-fi manageR?01:26
friesBerkes, use the Konsole, it's cool.01:26
berkesfries: [13:13]  <berkes> I cannot find the right tools for managing my wifi in an easy way. Right now I have some shell scripts that I run as sudo,01:26
friessudo iwconfig wlan0 blah blah blah?01:27
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berkesas in ^^ I use the console. But hell, there must be a way to not have to remember all these command parameters!01:27
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friesberkes: what's wrong with those? you can press up to see all your past inputs.01:27
flaccidso gnome doesn't have a wi-fi manager01:27
friesberkes: plus, what's cooler than command line?01:27
friesflaccid: of course it does01:27
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berkessudo iwconfig eth0 .... && sudo killall dhclient3 && sudo dhclient3 eth001:28
berkesfries: why do you use KDE?01:28
friesberkes: why would you kill em?01:28
flaccidright, i have no idea what berkes is going on about if hes just using commands01:28
kuzmasterwhen i try to install the vmware workstation, it says this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17818 . i have uninstalled all the vmware things in adept, and when i run the perl script, its still saying that vmware player is installed01:28
friesberkes: I am in command line right now.01:28
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berkesbecause I fucking want this to be easy.01:28
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friesberkes, anyways, try k wifi manager or something of that name, look for it in adept01:29
flaccidwell until someone can show me a wi-fi manager, i don't see an option01:29
kuzmaster!tell berkes about launguage01:29
ubotuI know nothing about launguage - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com01:29
flaccidkwifimanager, does not connect you to access points01:29
kuzmasterwhen i try to install the vmware workstation, it says this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17818 . i have uninstalled all the vmware things in adept, and when i run the perl script, its still saying that vmware player is installed01:29
friesBleh I have one but I'd have to boot into KDE...01:29
berkesfries: that, as said above, is not friendly. It needs 12 clicks to reconnect me to another network!01:29
kuzmastercan somone please help me01:29
berkesand most of the time in addition, it requires me to change some stuff on the CLI anyway.01:30
kuzmasteranyone, PLEASE!!!!!01:30
flaccidstop shouting01:30
timonatorkuzmaster: i am as desperate as you01:30
timonatorbut also01:30
wilytell your problem01:30
friesI have sensitive ears01:30
timonatorim going to die01:30
friestimonator, why?01:31
berkeswhy is it that everytime when you ask a question in an OSS community about "foo" all answers start with "dont use foo, use bar. Its better".01:31
timonatorfries: hold on01:31
timonator[11:17]  <timonator> i am really desperate now, on the livecd i get internet connection without a problem. in the installation i can only use the internet during a short period after i push the reset button in the back of the modem and waiting for a few seconds01:31
friesfoo is cool cos it sounds like fool01:31
friestiminator, don't press reset?01:31
SAD_gIrLzx01:31
timonatorfries: reset is the only thing that makes it work01:31
timonator(for a couple of seconds)01:32
kuzmastertimonator, dial-up or broadband?01:32
timonatori think its some kind of broadband01:32
timonatori dont really know what the fuck ish is01:32
fries-_-01:32
friesIs it wireless?01:32
timonatorprobably some DSL thing01:32
timonatornope, with cable01:32
fries<_<01:32
timonatorthe modem is not connected to the phone thingy01:33
timonator...01:33
friesIs the cable fatter than a phone cable?01:33
timonatori think so01:33
friesThen it's probably broadband.01:33
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timonatorthew connectzor is round01:33
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fries&01:33
timonatorand i cant type01:33
friesROund?01:34
frieso_O01:34
timonatoryep01:34
timonatorround01:34
timonatorlike01:34
flaccidsounds like cable/optic01:34
timonatora circle01:34
timonatorflaccid: possible01:34
fries------------> <------------01:34
kuzmasterflaccid, let me quote "[21:32]  <timonator> nope, with cable"01:34
fries&naim01:35
fries:(01:35
fries~&naim01:35
flaccidso, timonator has no idea, your point, kuzmaster?01:35
kuzmasternm01:35
kuzmasterdw01:35
kuzmasterfeal great01:35
fries*feel01:35
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RawSewagewhat language is this:   01:36
timonatorit cant be that it works with the livecd and not with the syystem01:36
timonatorwhat the fuck?01:36
RawSewageNative American?01:36
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flaccidthats like saying this car can do this, but this one can't, wtf not?01:37
robotgeekplease respect the coc, timonator01:37
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timonatorrobotgeek: whats01:37
timonatorcoc?01:37
Riddelltimonator: nuff bad language01:37
DeshWhat command d/c's you from a WLAN? sudo kill dhclient wlan0 (or eth1, etc)01:37
robotgeek!cpc01:37
ubotuI know nothing about cpc - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com01:37
flaccidcoc?01:37
RawSewageCode of Conduct01:37
robotgeek!coc01:37
ubotuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/01:37
arejensenRawSewage: I recognize most of them as norse runes.01:38
flaccidiwconfig eth1 ap none01:38
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Deshflaccid, sweet thanks.01:38
RawSewagearejensen, cool01:38
robotgeekDesh: ifconfig wlan0 down also works01:38
DeshAnd after that I can use iwconfig and essid and what not?01:38
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flaccidDesh: i suggest you RTFM on iwconfig01:39
Deshread the f'ing manual? :-O01:39
berkesfwiw: this is the gnome tool: https://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=14685401:39
flaccidiwconfig and ifconfig are differet 'layers'01:39
Deshflaccid: I have the manual, but I can;t read it right now. :( I dunno how to use more than one app at a time in CLI.01:39
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berkesits like actually user friendly :)01:39
flaccidso there is a gnome tool now , hmm01:39
robotgeekflaccid: please be helpful01:39
flaccidi am being help err01:40
robotgeekDesh: just try using knetworkmanager01:40
robotgeekflaccid: rtfm does not really help01:40
arejensenRawSewage: There are several versions of the norse alphabet, so the characters I don't recognize probably comes from another dialect that I don't know of.01:40
RawSewagearejensen, It will come in handy if I have to read some magic scrolls01:40
flaccidrobotgeek: it helped me when i need to know01:40
Deshrobotgeek: I am trying to learn how to do basically everything in CLI. :)01:40
flaccidman is your friend01:41
berkesknetworkmanager is meant for backend configuration of your networ.01:41
berkesthe problem with wifi nets is that often you connect to a net for a few mins only (trainstation) and having to go trough all the screens and config stuff,01:41
h3sp4wn Desh: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes - Is very easy to understand (if you don't wish to use networkmanager)01:41
robotgeekflaccid: if he could rtfm, he would proobably not be here for help. man is my friend too :)01:41
berkesjust to change to the net on that trainstation is not a real option01:41
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flaccidwe assume people can't read the manual?01:42
DeshGuys, who cares?01:42
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robotgeekflaccid: that is the assumption. heh01:42
Desh:) Don't argue, we are all friends. :)01:42
flaccidi agree Desh01:42
berkesand man iwconfig requires intimate knowlegde of linux networking backends and theory. absolutely not an option for Joe Schmoe01:43
DeshAnd I'm lazy, so manuals and me = >_<! :( :'( X_X01:43
flaccidmost channels will have a different POV on reading docs01:43
klerfaytI want 960x600 splash screen - is it possible?01:43
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Deshklerfayt, probably.01:43
h3sp4wnman iwconfig is not necessary if you configure your interfaces from /etc/network/interfaces using the doc I linked above01:43
flaccidso we should assume here that people are of the level of windows end users?01:43
klerfaytDesh: what's the vga= ?01:44
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timonatori am back01:44
berkesflaccid: yes we do.01:44
timonatori tried to connect top the net with my gentoo installation on my laptop that i brought over01:44
timonatorand it worked01:44
berkesor even newer then that , for that matter.01:44
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Deshflaccid: O-O01:44
Desh*:-O01:44
flaccidrightio01:44
timonatorwhy in the whatever doesnt it work? it confuses the hell out of me01:44
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flaccidthey may not learn anyting, but hey i got teh coc to remember01:45
berkesflaccid: if linux community cannot (or will not) provide *additional* tools for simple tasks, for "ignorant" users, it will never ever become even an alternative to the other systems.01:45
timonatorflaccid: handfeed me the solution to my unlogical problem please01:46
Desho_O All this cos I can;t open the manual and talk in irc at the same time... >_< i forgot the command so I asked a simple question.01:46
flaccidi do agree don't get me wrong01:46
berkesas in: if someone asks: how do I change my IP settings, and you answer "learn vim, edit the /etc/... files, read the man pages" then we are all lost.01:47
flaccidi just have other things in mind besides just fixing the problem01:47
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DeshThen don't answer?01:47
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berkesindeed.01:47
h3sp4wnflaccid: I agree with you - Lack of knowledge does not imply to me stupidity (you could get a doctor for example who I would consider to be much more intelligent than me - given well written documentation would be totally fine)01:47
berkes:)01:47
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flaccidits simple. why fix a problem when you don't understand what you did after fixing it??01:47
h3sp4wnExactly01:48
Jack12hi in which folder do the sane -backends need to be copied?01:48
flaccidreading the manual is not a bad idea sometimes01:48
flaccidespecially if its just to learn the params of the command01:48
berkesh3sp4wn: but if all you want to ask your doctor is "when do I take these pills before or after dinner" and he answers "here is the medical encyclopedia suit yourself"01:48
berkesthen he is not doing his job :)01:48
flaccidyou learn more switches when reading the manual01:48
timonatori just dont have any clue how to find the reason for my problem :(01:49
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h3sp4wnberkes: But If I ask him what are the possible effects of me taking these pills he will tell me01:49
berkesflaccid: always imagine your mom, or girlfriend, or your granpa to be working on a linux system. You dont tell them to "man foo"01:49
wilyhelp me01:49
flaccidbut if you ask intricate details of the pill, chances are the GP won't be able to answer01:49
wilyconfiguring kismet i've error01:49
Jack12u mean in my case? it didnt say where in particular they should  be stored and compiled?01:49
h3sp4wnflaccid: But he will find out01:50
flaccidthe man is a principle for unix01:50
wilyFATAL: Unknown capture source type 'ipw3945' in source 'ipw3945,eth1,ipw3945'01:50
flaccidexactly. he will find out by using a reference source01:50
DeshWell I'm tired, later all.01:50
flaccidi just looke at man iwconfig and it looks pretty newbie friendly to me01:51
h3sp4wnBut for wpa you need wpa_supplicant and to do that (the debian way) the doc is an obscure place01:51
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flaccidit has easy to understand examples like-  Examples :                    iwconfig eth0 essid any    iwconfig eth0 essid "My Network" etc.01:51
DeshI could not look at it - I'm in CLI and I have yet to discover how to switch b/w apps and I didn;t actually need to know, i randomly thought to myself, hey what was that command again?01:51
flaccidDesh: ok i help you switching apps then01:52
flaccidDesh: are you in KDE ?01:52
kuzmastercan somone please help me01:52
Deshflaccid: thanks, no I am in a comand line login.01:52
kuzmasterwhen i try to install the vmware workstation, it says this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17818 . i have uninstalled all the vmware things in adept, and when i run the perl script, its still saying that vmware player is installed01:52
h3sp4wnflaccid: I think that is a bad example because it doesn't explain how to properly integrate that into /etc/network/interface01:52
h3sp4wnkuzmaster: Did you install the player from adept ?01:53
flaccidh3sp4wn: hes asking about switching networks not setting a default in /etc/network/interface etc.01:53
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kuzmasterh3sp4wn, apt-get01:53
flaccidDesh: you can use screen or use different virtual terminals01:53
kuzmasterh3sp4wn, installing it from adept is like installing java from adept01:53
h3sp4wnflaccid: That can be done using wpa_supplicant (either specify a few) or using wpa_cli01:53
flaccidh3sp4wn: what does wpa_supplicant have to do with switching access points?01:54
h3sp4wnkuzmaster: have you removed it01:54
h3sp4wnflaccid: It more verbose (i.e you can use various commands to see what is going on)01:54
Deshflaccid: K, thanks, i'll look into those then. i already downloaded screen, I'll try the virtual terminals as well then. I'll look into it later tho, It's light out already and I have yet to fall asleep. >_<!01:55
kuzmasterh3sp4wn, i think i have, i removed a bunch of things the started with vmware from adept01:55
h3sp4wnflaccid: And you can connect to wep or no encryption networks also01:55
flaccidDesh: like using ctrl + alt + f101:55
flaccidh3sp4wn: you can do the same with iwconfig...01:55
DeshOh, that was simple. thanks!01:55
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flaccidDesh: try it with the other function keys, f2, f3 etc.01:56
flaccidam i acting a bit more ubuntu like?01:56
Deshflaccid: yeah i got it, that's great, thanks.01:56
flaccidcool01:57
h3sp4wnflaccid: Its alot easier to debug stuff (i.e it tells you when keys are removed etc )01:57
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kuzmasterh3sp4wn, any help/ideas?01:57
h3sp4wnkuzmaster: You need a c compiler and make (build-essential)01:58
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centyxmorning gents01:58
flaccidh3sp4wn: sounds cool, if you use wpa_supplicant :)01:58
Kwukkimorning?01:58
kuzmasterh3sp4wn, oh, well, explain01:58
KwukkiHere it is 2.00 pm01:59
centyxKwukki: afternoon then01:59
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Kwukkicentyx : ;-)01:59
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Lynourekuzmaster: make your wish come true. It only takes some time :)01:59
h3sp4wnkwukki: apt-get install build-essential kernel-headers-38602:00
Kwukkih3sp4wn : why?02:00
centyxKwukki: i think that was meant for kuzmaster02:00
Kwukkik02:00
z00mis there any software on linux for designing your house in 3d02:01
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z00mthats frEE02:01
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centyxi want to put kubuntu on my wife's pc, but she's only got 512mb ram. that would be fine, but she'll need to be running win xp in vmware-player, and that w/ only 512 is a little hairy02:02
h3sp4wnkuzmaster: actually you need build-essential and  linux-headers-386 (if you are using the 386 kernel)02:02
h3sp4wnkuzmaster: then try reerunning vmware-config.pl (I think that is the name of it - with sudo or as root)02:02
kuzmastercentyx, i run kubuntu with less that that and its fine02:02
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kuzmasterh3sp4wn, ok....., i get 'build-essential' and 'linux-headers-386' from adept?02:03
centyxi may try it when i get home02:03
kuzmastercentyx, ok, and i know someone who uses xp with 128mb of ram, and its fine02:04
h3sp4wnkuzmaster: Yes - then run sudo /usr/local/bin/vmware-config.pl (it should build the kernel modules properly this time)02:04
Desh-napIs there a limit to how many console logins I can have at a time with the same user?02:04
kuzmasterh3sp4wn, ok, thanx02:04
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h3sp4wn<kuzmaster>: You will have to re run that script everytime there is a kernel change (from dapper-security)02:05
kuzmasterok02:05
mrbojangliehow do i set a static routing table to use on every boot02:06
kuzmasterjust out of curisoity, dose adept download .dep packages, and dpkg's them?02:07
kuzmasterlike wen u install a package it does apt-get install -f (package name)?02:08
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tomcatthas anyone load ubuntu on those ultra mobile computers yet?02:11
kuzmasterh3sp4wn. when i do "sudo /usr/local/bin/vmware-config.pl", it says that the command isnt found02:12
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z00mim looking for some home design software for linux02:18
z00manyone know any ?02:18
omeowblender? :)02:19
Jack12hi guys02:19
Kwukki_hi02:19
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Jack12my snapscan.conf file is configured to point to the genuine windows firmware file of a scanner, however if i do scanimage i get02:20
Jack12Cannot open firmware file /usr/local/share/sane/snapscan/your-firmwarefile.bin.02:20
z00momeow: is that any good ?02:20
Jack12Edit the firmware file entry in snapscan.conf.02:20
z00mi dont want something that is going to take me 6months to learn how to use, is it simple /02:21
Jack12last hting it says open of device snapscan:libusb:005:009 failed: Invalid argument02:21
Jack12/usr/local/share/sane/snapscan/your-firmwarefile.bin.this file has normal user permissions should it have root permissions?02:22
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omeowz00m: I used it before. The interface takes some getting used to. But if you follow the documentation, and when you get used to the interface, it's really fast to use.02:23
z00mok, thanks omeow ill get it02:23
Jack12sane-find-scanner leave me with found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON] , product=0x0121 [EPSON Scanner] ) at lib                                                          usb:005:01302:24
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Jack12hi who works with xsane??02:27
LynoureI used to use it... but not for a while and not in kubuntu02:28
Jack12can i just copy images with xsane (scan and print ) as one action?02:29
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Jack12h3sp4wn are u there?02:31
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muslimhi02:39
muslimi have i big problem02:39
comahello...yes?02:39
muslimi can't get any application using apt-get02:40
gnomefreakmuslim: what is it saying?02:40
muslimit says waiting for headers 0%02:42
muslimand nothing happens02:42
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_kalmdid you do the sources.list?02:43
muslimwhat is that source list02:43
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muslimsorry i am new to linux02:43
_kalmso am i :-)02:43
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comadid you turn on flux.capacitor?02:44
_kalmtheres this thing you need to do with umm... /etc/apt/sources.list02:44
gnomefreaklol02:44
gnomefreak_kalm: correct02:44
muslimand what to do02:44
gnomefreakmuslim: can you please paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list onto pastebin02:44
mindspin!sources.list02:44
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource02:44
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coma!pornography02:45
ubotuI know nothing about pornography - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com02:45
coma!bondage02:45
ubotuI know nothing about bondage - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com02:45
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mindspinmuslim the file /etc/apt/sources.list defines the sources wher apt-get/adept/kynaptic gets its packages from02:46
muslimok02:46
muslimthen02:46
forkz!open02:47
ubotuI know nothing about open - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com02:47
coma!poopy02:47
ubotuI know nothing about poopy - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com02:47
_kalm! linux02:47
ubotulinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux02:47
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_kalmhm02:48
Simonthhow do i change to x86?02:48
abattoircoma, come on...02:48
coma!mach02:48
ubotuI know nothing about mach - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com02:48
comawhat?02:48
coma!microkernal02:48
ubotuI know nothing about microkernal - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com02:48
abattoircoma, if you want to play with the bot, please do it private02:48
mindspinwhen you open adept, there is a button "adept"if you click in on it "manage repositories"appears02:48
SimonthI have just installed kubuntu amd64 :( But I cant compile that stuff I will compile, it says "the processor do not understand x86-64 installains" (I have translated it..normally it is in danish)02:49
abattoirespecially, if you want to test its knowledge of among other things, pornography02:49
gnomefreakcoma: dont play with the bot please02:49
SimonthCan I switch from amd64 to x86, without having to downloading 700 mb? (which takes about a day or more on this internet)02:49
comait was a joke...02:49
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_kalm!coma02:49
ubotuI know nothing about coma - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com02:49
mindspinthere you can edit your sources.list02:49
_kalm:P02:49
comalmao02:49
Simonthnobody can help me? :/02:50
comai dont think so02:50
muslimwhat should i do02:50
comaSimonth : answer, i think you have to download02:50
mindspinin front of the "inactive" sources you see a #02:51
muslimi had these sources active02:51
mindspinwhen you remove it, the source will be used02:51
muslimit worked only once02:51
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Simonthcoma I dont just can edit something or download a another kernel or something? but okay then I download it, but then I first can use linux tomorrow :/02:51
mindspincan you post the content to pastebin?02:51
gnomefreakSimonth: i think (but never done this) but just install the 383 kernel and than boot to it02:51
mindspintry a "fetch updates"02:52
mindspin!paste02:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:52
coma!joke02:52
ubotuI know nothing about joke - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com02:52
comaSimonth : i dont think so, due to the architecture02:52
comalmao02:52
mindspin!coc02:53
ubotuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/02:53
Simonthgnomefreak okay, i can try..02:53
ChaniSimonth: if all your progarms are compiled for a 64bit environment, you can't use them in a 32bit environment, afaik. so yes, you'll have to install everything all over again02:53
Chanior at least the bare essentials02:53
muslimi did what you asked02:54
muslimhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1782302:54
gnomefreakcoma: use /msg ubotu <fact>02:54
coma...but thats no fun:(02:54
SimonthChani Okay.. I think the easyist thing is then to download kubuntu i386 instead...but it takes a long on this internet..but I then just wait..thanks02:55
gnomefreakmuslim: try sudo apt-get update   let me know if it runs through ok02:55
mindspinmuslim: that looks correct, what exactly do you want to install/update ?02:55
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Chanipersonally I think I'd use gentoo if I got an amd64 :) but, I don't mind waiting hours and hours for stuff to compile02:55
coma!fun02:55
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php02:55
muslimi think its aconnection problem02:56
mindspinthat would be my guess too02:56
_kalmi thought about installin gentoo... but im too noob :-D02:56
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achrafhello, i need to match this with sed <FEATURE id=FAJ 122 215 rev=R1 state=NOT AVAILABLE> and replace it with <FEATURE id="FAJ 122 215" rev="R1" state="NOT AVAILABLE"> am not really good with regex :S02:57
mindspinmuslim: replace the eg with de for example and have a try the german repos work02:57
gnomefreakmuslim: does apt-get update work?02:57
muslimno02:57
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gnomefreakmuslim: ok replace the eg in all the repos with de02:58
gnomefreakde is one of the most stable servers02:58
muslimfirefox didnt work for me till i made ipv6 disabled02:58
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muslimthen apt-get worked once02:59
muslimonly once02:59
mindspinmuslim: try what kdefreak and I told you02:59
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_kalmi really like Konquer.. Firefox doesn't always connect to the internet02:59
gnomefreaklol mindspin02:59
mindspinif the eg server is down th de one should work02:59
Chanihuh. adept says it's done, but it's not letting me go back to the package list.03:00
muslimok03:00
mindspin;-)03:00
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mindspinotherwise you may have a nameresolution issue03:00
Chaniit's just sitting there, telling me it's done03:00
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mindspinhehe03:01
abattoirChani: there should be a show list button somewhere03:01
abattoirView->Show Package list03:02
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muslimdoes changing server affects the language03:02
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muslimmy language is english arabic03:03
Chaniabattoir: that was chacked. I tried clicking 'show last download' and now it says it's only 37% done and is downloading more stuff03:03
abattoirChani: oh ok03:03
mindspinmuslim: no03:03
Chaniabattoir: when I woke up it was waiting for me to tell it whether it should download the nonfree flash03:03
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muslimthe problem still unsolved03:04
abattoirChani: someo installation procedures are interactive... which i guess adept could handle better03:04
Chaniso, darnit. I wish it'd downloaded everything before asking me that03:04
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muslimi think it's something wrong with IPv603:05
abattoirChani: generally, all packages are downloaded, only during setup, are you asked info... dont know about flash03:05
muslimbecause firefox didnt work till i disabled it03:05
Chaniabattoir: oh, another thing: because details were hiddden, at first it looked like it was stalled. that's bad. I imagine newbies might not think of loking at the details03:05
abattoirChani: indeed03:06
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mindspinmuslim, open konsole and try a ping de.eg.archive.ubuntu.com03:07
mindspinleave the de03:07
muslimok03:07
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muslimi .ll try03:07
mindspinshould read ping eg.archive.ubuntu.com03:07
Jack12hobbsee are u there?03:08
Chaniyay, 85%03:08
muslimboth worked03:08
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muslimwhats next03:09
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mindspinmh so name resolution at all seems to work, you got response?03:09
muslimyes03:09
Jack12i would like to install scanbuttond like its described here03:09
Jack12http://gentoo-wiki.com/Scanner_buttons_and_one-touch_scanning03:09
Jack12i am just unsure if this would work for ubuntu03:10
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mindspinwhat happens when you type sudo apt-get update on konsole ?03:10
Jack12and what the lines beginning with cvs do..03:10
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thompai need some hardware troubleshooting advice real bad03:11
gnomefreakthompa: ask03:11
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muslimit just does the same 0%03:12
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muslimno progress for long period03:12
mindspinmh03:12
thompai have 2 ddr 512M ram sticks with a 1.8 athlon cpu, mobo is soyo k40003:12
thompasometimes the box will barely boot, if i pull out one stcik of ram it boots fast03:13
thompabut i ran memtest all night no ram errors03:13
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muslimwhat is the meaning of mh03:13
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mindspinit means "I have no solution at hand ..."03:13
mindspinI'm thinking about how to diagnose and solve your problem03:14
muslimthanks for your efforts03:14
mindspinyw03:14
muslimi hope that i'm not annoying you03:15
mindspinIt could be IPv6 related,03:15
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muslimi think so03:15
mindspinno we are here to help out if we can03:15
alex_ndchi guys, I am new here ... I have a question that bugs me ... what's up with all these kernel upgrades on Ubuntu ? Are you installing these kernel upgrades as soon as they appear ?03:15
mindspinand If you are an advanced user feel free to help also...03:15
muslimare you from kubuntu team03:16
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mindspinno, just auser03:16
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muslimi am from egypt03:16
muslimwhere are you from03:16
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mindspingermany03:17
muslimthats why you gave me the de mirror03:17
muslim:D03:17
MidMarkh3sp4wn: can you confirm some bugs?03:17
MidMarkhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/qtparted/+bug/4539803:17
MidMarkhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/4539703:18
MidMarkhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-thunderbird/+bug/4969003:18
MidMarkhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/k9copy/+bug/5099703:18
muslimthe worldcup organization at your country was very good03:18
muslimany idea mindspin ?03:19
Pupeno_alex_ndc: what's up with the upgrades ? they might have found a bug or something to improve and improved it. I install them as they appear.03:20
alex_ndcyeah ... but what if it breaks my system03:20
alex_ndc?03:20
alex_ndcupgrading the kernel isn't supposed to be dangerous ?03:20
dr_willisnot really03:20
dr_willisit keeps the old kernel. and has a grub entry for both the old and new03:21
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dr_willisreboot, select old kernel.. there ya go.03:21
alex_ndcok, so, if the new kernel works, how can I delete the old kernel ?03:21
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dr_willisdont bother deleting it. :) i dont think its worth the hassle.03:21
dr_willisi must have like 6 kernel entries in my grub menu by now.03:22
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abattoiralex_ndc: you can remove the package from adept if you want...03:22
alex_ndcyeah ? it works that way ? have you tried it ?03:22
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muslimare there anybody from kubuntu team03:22
muslim?03:22
abattoiralex_ndc: yes, i have, i've removed about 10 at a go, and save some space :P03:23
abattoir*saved03:23
alex_ndc:) ok, that's good03:23
alex_ndcthanks03:23
abattoiralex_ndc: make sure the new one works properly w/ your system first though03:23
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mindspinmuslim you can ask in #ubuntu03:25
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muslimbut there should be differences between it and kubuntu03:26
alex_ndcmuslin: what's your problem ?03:27
muslimi cant install any thing from adept03:28
muslimor kpackage03:28
alex_ndcapt-get works ?03:29
muslimit doesnt connect to thae internet03:29
muslimno only once03:29
alex_ndchave you tried using different mirrors ?03:29
muslimyes03:29
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muslimi think its connection problem03:30
alex_ndcare you connecting through a proxy ? maybe you have a missconfiguration somewhere03:30
muslimespecially withh IPv603:30
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alex_ndcyeah, I had problems with ipv6 myself03:31
muslimthen what to do03:31
_kalmi think you can still get synaptic.. although it wouldnt be much help if your apt doesnt work... heh, bad idea03:31
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alex_ndctry getting synaptic with ... sudo apt-get install synaptic03:32
muslimwhat is synaptic for03:32
alex_ndcif apt-get doesn't work, you could also ask on the #ubuntu channel03:32
thompai rebooted and my cpu usage stays at 100%, but if i remove 1 ram stick now it is ok03:32
alex_ndcsynaptic is like adept, but for Gnome03:32
_kalmif the apt-get doesnt work i doubt synaptic would be of much use!03:32
thompabut memtest shows no ram errors03:32
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muslimhow well it will work here with kde03:33
alex_ndcyeah, that's why it is important for him to test ap-get03:33
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thompai guess my cpu is going bad, anybody know how to tell03:33
_kalmive had synaptic on KDE it works, ok03:33
alex_ndcit will work, if it installs03:33
alex_ndcyeah, I have it too03:33
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alex_ndcI like adept better, though03:33
_kalmi havent used adept at all...03:34
_kalmcant bother due to lack of POWER on my "computer"03:34
mazurskieis there a repo of just kernel packages?03:35
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muslimno it didn't03:37
Chanithompa: hardware issues can be nasty to diagnose. you could download some more tools to test things... like the 'ultimate boot cd' (I forget where it is, google knows)03:37
muslimit says : Package synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:38
Chanithompa: btw: are both sticks of ram the same?03:38
z00mhow do you do a CTCP version check on IRC03:38
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thompaChani: yes they are the same, thanks03:40
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thompaChani: i have run about 20 programs to test cpu etc in windows03:41
thompaall check out ok03:41
thompaChani: it will run fine for hours or days, then a very slow boot with cpu at 100% for entire session03:42
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thompaeven if i reboot it may not fix, unless i wait some long time or pull ram or something03:42
thompacompusa has a ram testing device machine maybe its better than memtest03:43
Chanievil.03:43
ChaniI doubt it03:43
thompait will also start to lock up for maybe 5-10 minutes after some heavy usage in openoffice03:43
Chanihmm. nasty03:44
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Chanihow long did you run memtest for?03:44
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thompaChani: im thinking about a new mobo cpu package , they got a cheap one for $15003:44
thompai ran memtest maybe 5 hours03:44
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Chaniwith the first stick of ram for this comp, it took memtest86 nearly 24 hours to find a problem03:44
thomparealy, oh03:45
Chani(since I was getting random compile failures I was sure it was the ram)03:45
h3sp4wnMidMark: I use edgy and none of those programs (the version of thunderbird I use is the binary from mozilla.org) and I do installs via debootstrap (well did for edgy)03:45
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Tm_Konvihi kids03:45
thompaChani: wont the hardware test machine find the ram problem quicker if i bring it in03:45
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abattoirhello Tm_Konvi03:46
Chanithompa: maybe, maybe not. their "test machine" might even be runnng memtest86 itself :) when I returned my ram to NCIX they didn't find a problem, but they didn't run memtest as long as I did (and they were nice and gave me a replacement still)03:46
cristianohello guys i've an italian keyboard and suddenly the accented keys are not working anymore O___O03:46
Tm_KonviI got my adsl back after 6 weeks or so03:47
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Tm_Konviso, now I'm waiting upgrades to download03:47
Wilfredcristiano: check your keyboard settings03:47
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Chanithompa: if it's free it can't hurt, but if they want money I personally wouldn't pay03:47
thompaChani: ill run it again, maybe its the cpu or mobo03:47
cristianoi've checked right now, i have an italian layout selected03:47
thompaits free03:47
Chaniah, cool03:48
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Wilfreddunno then. sorry03:48
cristianoWilfred: it's something really strange, maybe it's because of cedega?03:48
_kalmitalian... i used to have finnish but i got USA keyboad :-)03:48
Chaniyeah, it could be anything... only way to narrow it down is olts of trial and error. although I wouldn't really suspect the cpu much, my bet would be ram or mb03:48
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Wilfredcristiano: I don't use cedega myself, although installing something reset my localisation settings a while back. I learn more about kubuntu settings though :-s03:49
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cristianoWilfred:  it's really weird the prob i got coz this morning everything was working fine...03:49
Jack12does anybody know how i would assign the buttons on my scanner the responding function eg copy. email.fax..?03:50
Wilfredcristiano: anything else changed on your system?03:50
_kalmcristiano: you got cedega? how does it work compared to windows???03:50
_kalmi mean the software03:50
cristianoWilfred: no just installed cedega who asked me to install something about fonts03:50
cristiano_kalm: it doesn't work for me here, i think i have to switch to the most updated cedega version03:51
Wilfredcristiano: is it possible it's changed something to a font that doesn't support accents?03:51
Tm_Konviabattoir: what's up03:51
_kalmcristiano: oh, just wondering how Steam  would work on Cedega... or wine03:51
abattoirTm_Konvi: oh, you still remember ;)03:52
abattoiror dont you :P ?03:52
Tm_Konvibarely, I'm getting too old you know :p03:52
cristianoWilfred: it does so with any type of font and on every apps03:52
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cristianoi really dunno what to do :(03:54
SheaTaraMy system is becoming somewhat unresponsive and slow, I have a new, relatively fast AMD64 running 32-bit kubuntu with ubuntu-desktop installed, any recommendations?03:54
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_kalmwhy not just use english, saves the trouble of stuff like that! my first language is Finnish but i use english in everything...03:55
SheaTaraI also have 512 mb ram, 1024 mb swap03:55
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Tm_Konvi_kalm: same here, mostly03:55
ubuntu_Hi all03:55
Tm_Konvi_kalm: paitsi suomenkielist tukea antaessa ;)03:55
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ubuntu_why does my optical mouse not work?03:56
_kalmTim_Konvi: hehe... :-D juupa juu03:56
ubuntu_and I can't boot from Kubuntu :-D03:56
h3sp4wnubuntu_: Damaged lense maybe03:57
cristianook i'll try restarting X hope this will help :(03:57
ubuntu_h3sp4wn, it works on FC5 and Windows :-D03:57
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ubuntu_and good on Breezy03:58
h3sp4wnIs it usb ?03:58
ubuntu_but I had to update kernel03:58
ubuntu_h3sp4wn, no, P/S03:58
cristianohello h3sp4wn how are u doin?03:58
h3sp4wnReasonably well (for the time being)03:59
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ubuntu_h3sp4wn, but there is a small problem.03:59
h3sp4wnWhat is that ?03:59
cristianoheheh same here even if i'm angry coz it looks like some keys on my keybord aren't working damn!!!03:59
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ubuntu_I installed new kubuntu from CD which I received03:59
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ubuntu_And It din't work04:00
ubuntu_:-D04:00
h3sp4wnAre you in the the live cd now ?04:00
ubuntu_yes04:00
h3sp4wnAnd is the mouse working at the moment ?04:00
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ubuntu_no04:00
ubuntu_:-D04:00
ubuntu_after installing, reboot, and it stopped at "Waiting for mounting root .... "04:01
ubuntu_and I have to uses live CD04:01
ubuntu_:-D04:01
h3sp4wnThe live cd without a working mouse ?04:02
ubuntu_yes04:02
ubuntu_i have to uses an old one04:02
ubuntu_scroll mouse :-D04:02
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h3sp4wnTry installing from the altenate cd04:03
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ubuntu_omg, I have just one live cd04:03
serenityhi04:04
ubuntu_that's a wrong decision04:04
Wilfredanyone tell me how I can remove old kernels from my system and lilo? adept doesn't seem to want to do it04:04
h3sp4wnubuntu_: Its very difficult to debug the installation from the livecd (at least for me) however the alternate install cd seems to work 100% of the time after that I could probably help you get the mouse working (from the commandline)04:05
ubuntu_huh, but I received only live CD in package04:06
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h3sp4wnhttp://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso04:06
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h3sp4wnNo one ever seems to have problems installing with that (in my experience or at least asks about them in here)04:08
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ubuntu_h3sp4wn, thx04:13
h3sp4wnubuntu_: Its a tried and tested installer (been used by debian for a long time)04:14
serenitythe ubuntustickers are not wheather-resistant04:14
h3sp4wnserenity: Are they resistant to chemicals ?04:14
serenityh3sp4wn: sour rain? Nope04:15
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nikknehi all,04:23
serenityhi04:23
nikkneI'm using ubuntu upgraded to kubuntu04:23
nikknewhere should I made changes to get X running without -nolisten04:23
nikkne?04:23
serenitynolisten?04:24
h3sp4wnnikkne: You want to enabled xdmcp ?04:24
nikkneI dunno :) I just want to see: /usr/bin/X -br :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-pZGOGM04:25
nikkneinstead of /usr/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-pZGOGM04:25
nikknekdm is running, if that means something04:25
h3sp4wnIf you don't know why you probably don't need it04:26
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nikkneh3sp4wn: true04:30
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nikknewhat I want is ability to connect to my machine from another machine (using X, offcourse)04:31
nikknethat's why I need -nolisten tcp removed from arguments of /usr/bin/X04:32
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h3sp4wnnikkne: For that I would use freenx04:32
h3sp4wn!freenx04:32
ubotufreenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX04:32
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h3sp4wnnikkne: Or standard x forwarding over ssh for individual apps04:45
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grizzly17 20 * * * ~/script/somescript - is there anything wrong with this cron command?04:50
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grizzlythe script runs fine otherwise.04:50
HawkwindTry using the full path instead of ~/04:50
HawkwindShouldn't matter, but it might04:50
grizzlyused fullpath only.04:51
h3sp4wnIs it in roots crontab ?04:51
Hawkwindgrizzly: Are you sure that the user executing the cron has the right to execute the script ?04:51
grizzlyI changed my shell from bash to zsh. COuld that affect ?04:51
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grizzlyHawkwind: Yes, I run thios script all the time04:51
Hawkwindgrizzly: Is it in roots crontab ?04:51
grizzlymeaning?04:51
h3sp4wnI have started using zsh recently - have you changed roots shell to zsh ?04:52
HawkwindAre you running the cronjob as root or normal user ?04:52
grizzlyHawkwind: normal user I guess "crontab -e"04:52
HawkwindYou guess ?04:52
grizzlyh3sp4wn: yes in /etc/passwd04:52
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HawkwindDid you do crontab -e as root or normal user ?04:52
h3sp4wngrizzly: I would leave roots shell as bash04:52
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h3sp4wngrizzly: and just if you are using interactive just do exec zsh04:53
grizzlyHawkwind: the command I use is "crontab -e" without sudo.04:53
Hawkwindgrizzly: Then it's being done as normal user which is what I was asking04:54
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Hawkwindgrizzly: Since I don't use zsh you might listen to h3sp4wn's advice since he seems to know about it04:55
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grizzlyDoes cron require that I make the script executable for bash seperately?? ( if that makes sense)04:55
h3sp4wngrizzly: Does the script use any features which only zsh has ?04:55
grizzlyh3sp4wn: In /etc/passwd : ni:x:1000:1000:ni,,,:/home/ni:/bin/zsh  where ni is my user .04:56
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grizzlynope04:56
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grizzlyother commands like mkdir ~/ttt work btw04:56
nikkneabout -nolisten issue: change of ServerLocalFlags in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc did the trick04:58
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grizzlywould I be correct in assuming that 20 20 * * * krusader is supposed to work ?05:01
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Mr_CrispyI have an external USB HD that has somehow been set to read only. Any attempts to change it to write permission have not worked. Any suggestions?05:03
jayGood Morning (for those in US EDT zone)05:03
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grizzlyMr_Crispy: I'll guess, what does /etc/fstab have to say? Use pastebin05:05
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jayDoes anybody know if there is a solution to the problem with KDE hard-locking with NVIDIA drivers?  I've found a lot of info via Google documenting the problem, but no solutions.05:05
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Riddell** testers need for koffice 1.5.2   deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-152/ dapper main05:06
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grizzlyh3sp4wn: Hawkwind : I think I found the problem, my script started with /bin/bash, whereas my shell is zsh . I am so dumb05:08
Kwukkihi05:09
Kwukkiis it possible to let a user run a script by simply clicking on it?05:09
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grizzlyKwukki: yes , wait a sec05:10
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MikHellI have something weird.... the Konqueror search box does not work anymore05:11
jayHmmm.... nvidia thing is an unsolved bug in Kubuntu?05:11
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MikHellAnd Firefox is unusable as it keeps freezing up05:11
grizzlyrrr=$(which $1)  && cp -l $rrr ~/Desktop/ , save this as script. Now to x\create desktop shortcut, type scriptname "appname" , (without quotes)05:11
Kwukki:-s05:12
Kwukkiwait05:12
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syniedo u know, how the english key layout file is called ?05:13
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HawkwindRiddell: Installed here no problems and everything seems to run fine.  I'll do some more extensive testing here in a bit but it all seems well with the new koffice :)05:13
MikHellDoes anyone else have problems with firefox?05:14
HawkwindMikHell: What kind of problems ?05:14
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MikHellIt freezes all the time05:15
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MikHellno idea what makes it freeze05:15
doppelgangeri've got a quick question for someone in the know. Not anything technical.05:15
MikHellbut it may even have made my machine crash....05:15
JoeCodermodprobe fglrx doesn't work.  "FATAL: Module fglrx not found."  And I've done apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx05:15
doppelgangerIn Kubuntu, i love the way the "system settings" screen is setup05:15
HawkwindMikHell: Do you have any extensions installed ?05:15
RiddellHawkwind: excellent, thanks05:15
MikHellextensions? You mean pluggin? or something else?05:16
jayMikHell:  Have you tried renaming ~/.mozilla and trying firefox?05:16
doppelgangeris that a KDE centric thing, or kubuntu-desktop thing?05:16
RiddellHawkwind: i386?05:16
HawkwindRiddell: I'm on a P4, 686 box here05:16
Riddellcool05:16
kOpterdoppelganger > mostly a kde thing05:16
HawkwindMikHell: Correct.  Firefox calls them extensions05:17
HawkwindMikHell: But they are basically plugins05:17
MikHelljay: I am trying that. I will browse around and tell you if it works again05:17
doppelgangerok, cool, just wanted to know. I love the way that is setup compared to gnome, looks much cleaner and more intuitive05:17
Kwukkigrizzly : i want to place the scripts on the internet, i'm making a kubuntu-guide. It is for reeeaal beginners.05:17
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Kwukkigrizzly : how can i do That?05:17
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HawkwindKwukki: Start a forum or wiki or something05:17
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JoeCoderIf you're going to be pedantic, I think firefox plugins are things like flash and java.05:17
MikHellHawkwind: I have java and Flash (but it would freeze before I downloaded flash)05:18
KwukkiHawkind : Why?05:18
KwukkiHawkiwnd : Why?05:18
HawkwindKwukki: To put the information on.  Makes it easier to read and such05:18
MikHellHawkwind: I also think it froze before java05:18
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JoeCoderI used easy-ubuntu for all of my plugins and it worked just fine.05:18
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JoeCoderkubuntu dapper05:18
HawkwindMikHell: Click on Tools -> Extensions05:18
HawkwindMikHell: Anything listed there ?05:18
KwukkiHawkwind : Why?05:18
jayHmmm ... is there no solution to kubuntu+nvidia=lockup problem?05:19
MikHellHawkwind: Hawkind: ah not the plgins then :) I have English (GB) Language Pack 1.5.0.105:19
HawkwindKwukki: You said you wanted to put the info on the internet for a Kubuntu beginners site.  I'm just suggesting ideas05:19
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Kwukkiow05:19
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HawkwindMikHell: Then do what jay suggested by doing: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old  with firefox closed, then restart it05:19
MikHellI just did it05:20
grizzlyKwukki http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17835 - this is simple script. using which my 8 yr old cousin was happily creating desktop shortcuts05:20
Kwukkieveything works fine, but i want to let new linux users click on the script and it have to run.05:20
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MikHellHawkwind: what would moving my .mozilla do? This is just after moving it.05:20
JoeCoderCan anyone help me get my ati video driver working so that I don't have to rely on mesa any more? (Radeon x600)05:20
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HawkwindMikHell: It clears out all of your firefox configs and starts like it's a fresh install05:20
HawkwindMikHell: It could be some config file is corrupted or something causing the problems you are having.05:21
MikHellHawkwind: I know that, but what is the issue with my previous configs? I still will have that extension05:21
MikHellHawkwind: OK we'll see...05:21
HawkwindMikHell: That extension is built into Kubuntu's firefox05:21
HawkwindMikHell: I just wanted to make sure you didn't have any additional ones05:21
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KurtBI'm struggling with setting up 802.1x TTLS with PAP on Kubuntu 6.01. Has anyone here messed with wpa_supplicant who might be able to pass me a clue?05:23
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KurtB:-)05:24
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MikHellIs there another GUI for WiFi that allows WPA?05:24
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h3sp4wnHow do I print screen in kde ?05:24
MikHellIs there another GUI than Networkmanager for WiFi that allows WPA?05:25
ivanoatsI had amaroK working, with all the EasyUbuntu stuff, and then I installed the latest version and now it won't play mp3's anymore :-(05:25
jay**sigh**  how frustrating... I like SO many things about Kubuntu... but the random lock-ups renders it generally unusable to me :(05:25
abattoirh3sp4wn: if the PrtSc button doesnt bring it up automatically, ksnapshot05:25
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abattoirMikHell: tried knetworkmanager?05:26
MikHellabattoir: I am using knetworkmanager, but I get annoyed that it does not get the signal strength right and sometimes it disconnects and thn reconnects me....05:26
jay(BTW, whoever designed the "system settings" window ROCKS... a HUGE step forward in usablility!)05:27
abattoirMikHell: and wlassistant doesnt work?05:27
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MikHellabattoir: wlassistant supports WPE but no WPA05:29
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charlie5hullooo ... does it matter performance-wise, where swap is on the disk ?05:32
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hubhi05:33
hubhi05:33
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hubhow do I enable universe from the UI ?05:34
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hub(I know how to edit sources.list, that is not the question)05:34
hubin Kubuntu off course05:34
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grizzlyfirst install synaptic, I think it has a way of enabling universe from gui05:34
hubok, so it is just not me05:35
hubgrizzly: I'd rather vi it as usual05:35
jayYou can do it from Adept..05:35
hubjay: how?05:35
jaySystem --> Adept05:35
jay(standby.. I need to open it myself to remember the rest.)05:35
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hubI went thru the Add/Remove thing05:36
hubwhich is also adept05:36
hub:-/05:36
jayThat doesn't work, hub...05:36
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jayyou have to use Adept from the system menu05:36
hubthere is definitely something wrong05:36
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jayThe Add/Remove thing is very minimalist.05:37
hubtoo minimalist05:38
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hubbecause it allow looking for unsupported software05:38
hubbut does not enable it05:38
hub...05:38
jayAnyway.. after opening the full Adept GUI, pull down the "Adept" menu and choose "manage repositories"05:38
hubyeah I found that05:38
jayI agree.. I don't like the Add/Remove thing... I use Adept from the System menu.05:38
hubit is done now05:38
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hubjay: I use sudo apt-get update05:39
hubjay: and the rest05:39
hubin a terminal05:39
hub:-)05:39
hubalways05:39
jayIf I wanted to do that, I'd still be using Gentoo. :)05:39
hubI now know why05:39
hubjay: you would have to compile too05:39
jayI don't care about the compiling part... I always ran big compile jobs before I went to work/sleep/watch movie.05:40
h3sp4wnYou can use packages with gentoo I think05:40
v3ctoryes05:40
hubok, let's not start in the distro war05:40
jayh3sp4win: Yes.. there are a limited number of pre-compiled packages available in Gentoo.05:40
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jayOh... No WAR intended. :)05:40
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jayAnyway....    I'll ask again... NVIDIA + Kubuntu = Lockup.  Any known solutions?05:43
imachineget a new card.05:43
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jayimachine: would rather get the problem fixed.  It worked perfectly in the "other" distro I mentioned before (not to start war, but to narrow down where the problem may be)05:44
imachinebah. so its not hardware related.05:45
imachinewell05:45
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jayimachine: right. :)05:45
imachinepeople are seldom magicians you know.05:45
imachineunless you provide with some error information, its hardly possible to debug that.05:45
imachineor help.05:45
imachineso realizing that, get cracking.05:45
imachine:)05:45
JoeCoderjay: I don't know a lot, but have you tried it with other OS's to make sure it's not a hardware problem?05:46
kOpterSorry jay, just sent my crystal ball RMA..05:46
imachineJoeCoder, he just said he did.05:46
jayimachine:  dang... you sound like a gentoovian. :)05:46
imachinejay, im not.05:46
JoeCodersorry, just got back form another channel05:46
imachinelast time i used gentoo was quite some time.05:46
imachinejay, anyway, if you want help, provide errors.05:46
imachinelike 'it doesnt work' is not an error message ;)05:47
imachine'my computer locks up, can you help?'05:47
imachinethats better, wise move.05:47
imachine:)05:47
kOpterHave you got issues, imachine :)?05:47
jayError = desktop locks up requiring a hard reboot... moves around, but everything else is locked up tight.05:47
imachinekOpter, probably some.05:47
kOpterLike family that keeps calling you every second of the day with their computer problems :)?05:48
jayWill be HAPPY to provide whatever info I have access too.05:48
imachinekOpter, none are of your business however and lets leave it at that; i'll be sure to turn to the correct authorities when i will realize i need some help.05:48
jay*sigh*05:48
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imachinejay, only in X, or in console too?05:48
imachinewhat's dmesg say05:48
h3sp4wnjay: Using nvidia binary drivers ?05:48
imachineXorg.0.log05:48
imachineare you using the newest packages05:49
imachinewhat kernel are you using.05:49
imachineetc etc.05:49
jayh3sp4wn.. yes... nvidia binary drivers.05:49
kOpterHave you installed the nvidia drivers?05:49
kOpterAh05:49
imachinekOpter, my family lives luckily 1200km away from me.05:49
imachinekOpter, and regarding computer errors, well, i run a small network.05:49
h3sp4wnjay: grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list05:49
imachinekOpter, so people sometimes do ask me about stuff.05:49
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imachineah, mad grep skills05:50
imachine;-)05:50
h3sp4wnNot interested in anything commented out (as apt isn't)05:50
jayOk.. done... what are we looking for in there?05:50
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imachineyah.05:50
imachinejay, do what i said before; also what h3sp4wn said.05:50
imachines/said/wrote.05:50
imachinebah05:50
imachine;] 05:50
h3sp4wnjay: mainly whether edgy-security has main restricted multiverse universe enabled05:51
h3sp4wnjay: dapper-security sorry05:51
imachineedgy ;] 05:51
jayedgy-security??05:51
imachinewhat's dapper mean anyway.05:51
jayAH.. ok... LOL05:51
imachinei need to look it up on google.05:51
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jayOk... daper-security has main, restricted & universe enabled.05:52
imachinelol, searching for translations all i find is swear words.05:53
imachinebah05:53
imachine;] 05:53
imachinejay, throw in multiverse there, well, thats what i did on my ubuntu. maybe thats not wise duno.05:53
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jayEasy enough to give it a try...05:54
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jayWell.. that did bring up some new upgrades.. but none seem related to video system.05:56
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ardeaanyone there ?06:05
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ninHerhola a tod@s06:07
eriksonhello...newbie here ...I'm trying to install a tar.gz file not listed in adept or synaptic sources ...how do I do this ?06:08
ardeawhich file ?06:08
eriksonstreamtuner06:08
ardeafor ?06:08
eriksonmultimedia06:09
eriksoni reckon06:09
eriksoninternet radio06:09
bleakeddoes the helix framework exist at all in kubuntu?  (helix dev files)06:09
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adibhello.. i have a problem with enableing 3d acceleration on my nvdia FX5200 card... after06:09
adibsudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup sudo nvidia-glx-config enable06:09
adibi ghet the error:06:09
ardeasudo apt-get install streamtuner06:09
imachineerikson, isn't streamtune enabled in kubuntu06:10
adibX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 15406:10
adib  Major opcode:  14306:10
adib  Minor opcode:  306:10
adib  Resource id:  0x006:10
adibFailed to open device06:10
adibX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 15406:10
adib  Major opcode:  14306:10
adib  Minor opcode:  306:10
adib  Resource id:  0x006:10
hubbleaked: there is helix-player06:10
adibFailed to open device06:10
adibX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 15406:10
adib  Major opcode:  14306:10
adib  Minor opcode:  306:10
adib  Resource id:  0x006:10
adibFailed to open device06:10
adibX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 15406:10
adib  Major opcode:  14306:10
imachineerikson, i think all you need would be just some more sources in /etc/apt/source.list06:10
adib  Minor opcode:  306:10
adib  Resource id:  0x006:10
adibFailed to open device06:10
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imachineadib, DO FUCK OFF (excuse my language channel owners)06:10
adibsry...06:10
imachineadib, learn to f... use a f... paste bot.06:10
adibjust copy pasted06:10
trappistyeah don't06:10
imachinewell you better do not do that again, its rude.06:11
eriksonimachine: , no it's not in the kmenu06:11
imachineerikson, $EDITOR /etc/apt/sources.list06:11
ardeadid you try :   sudo apt-get install streamtuner06:11
imachineerikson, enable the multiverse and universe06:11
adibi didn't knew it would send multilined06:11
imachinei think it's mentioned in the wiki.06:11
DaSkreech!language06:11
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:11
imachineDaSkreech, yeah yeah i know ;)06:11
DaSkreechJust had to do it :)06:11
imachinei just reckon some need a bit of a kick up06:11
imachine:p06:11
ardeayes add extra repositories06:12
DaSkreechYou can actually be a lot more expressive if you don't use language like that :)06:12
eriksonhang om imachine..kate editor ?06:12
DaSkreechPLus it's funnier to read06:12
imachineerikson, whatever editor you choose.06:12
imachineDaSkreech, bah ;] 06:12
DaSkreechYou could get bash.orged06:12
imachineits not supposed to be funny.06:12
imachineits supposed to get straight to the head.06:12
imachine;] 06:12
ninHerpaste bot or paste bin ?06:12
imachineninHer, whatever tf06:13
ardeaLet me say ; the best way u can , check the ubuntu guide06:13
imachineDaSkreech, see how i abbreviated the proper words?06:13
imachine;] 06:13
ninHerwhat's the meaning of tf06:13
imachinecrap..06:13
imachine;>06:13
DaSkreechtinyfuge?06:13
imachineyea thats it!06:13
imachine;] 06:13
imachinethe fudge.06:13
imachinewhatever the fudge06:13
imachine;>06:13
ninHerok, thanks06:14
imachineeh.06:14
imachinei like #freebsd policy06:14
imachinekeep it cool, swear words and drug talk allowed06:14
imachine;)06:14
adibX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 154   Major opcode:  143  Minor opcode:  3  Resource id:  0x0Failed to open device - when trying to enable 3d acceleration. (sry for my previous mistake)06:14
imachinejust try to do stay ontopic :P06:14
imachineand all is correct ;>06:14
imachine;p06:14
ShuT-:o06:14
imachineadib, ok dude, so?06:14
adibhow do get 3d accel?06:15
imachinei mean you're pasting like error messages here, but so what? i mean, are you even going to tell us what are they realted to?06:15
imachineor, even more, have you actually asked someone for help, or are you just pasting it in the void.06:15
imachinemeh.06:15
eriksonimachine: I'm not getting any list in the kate06:15
imachinewhat card, what drivers, what kernel, what distro etc etc etc.06:15
imachineerikson, fire up terminal, sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list06:16
adib2.6.15 FX520006:16
adibkubuntu 6.0606:16
imachineadib, dmesg |grep -i nvidia06:16
trappistimachine: please refer to the ubuntu code of conduct.  you're not being helpful and you're being awfully disrespectful.  kthx.06:16
imachinetrappist, bah.06:16
trappisthow did I know.06:16
imachineare you the owner of this channel? if i'm such a problem. do remove me then eh.06:17
imachineim helping my own way.06:17
imachineyou havent's seen any results yet have you.06:17
imachineso be patient.06:17
imachinebut i can shut up just as well.06:17
imachineits not like im getting paid for this.06:17
ShuT-highlight06:17
ShuT-:o06:17
ShuT-oh lol06:17
trappistif you'd rather shut up than be respectful, please do.06:17
h3sp4wnimachine: But you are spamming the channel for no reason06:17
imachinetrappist, i dont know where im being disprespectful.06:17
ShuT-any app for kubuntu to SHOUTcast? I got a server to connect to, to play music .. etc06:17
imachinetrappist, i told the dude what to do, and now he quit.06:18
imachinewho is being disrespectful here?06:18
imachineim wasting my time trying to help and he just quits, so? ;)06:18
h3sp4wn!enter06:18
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.06:18
imachineh3sp4wn, oh well. yeah, the enter thing is quite a pain with me :p i've been an irc user for quite long, i've alqways treated irc as just a real-life talk.06:18
imachineand i do say a lot in real life during somewhat energetic discussions.06:19
imachineso excuse me for that but i cant change that.06:19
trappistimachine: you've been asked to adhere to three different channel guidelines and blown them all off.06:19
h3sp4wnimachine: My only is that if someone asks a question inbetween all your half sentences then I miss it06:19
trappist!ops06:19
LjLimachine, the mere fact that i've now focused my #kubuntu windows and 99% of the messages i'm seeing are from you means there is a problem. at the very least, you're spreading out your sentences into a bit to many messages. at worst, you're offtopic and perhaps you should read the IRC Guidelines better06:19
ubotuHelp! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, or imbrandon06:19
Hobbseegnomefreak: ?06:20
imbrandonyes ?06:20
gnomefreakHobbsee: imachine06:20
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imachinewhat, should i go away then :)06:20
LjL!behavior06:20
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:20
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eriksonso imachine and anyone else who can help , I've done the "sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list" in the terminal ,... now what ?06:20
imbrandonimachine, last warning , adhear to the CoC or be asked to leave06:21
imachineerikson, im sorry my way of helping is not appreciated here.06:21
imachinei will not talk in this channel anymore due to uptight play from the ops ;)06:21
LjLerikson: is the problem that you don't have universe and/or multiverse enabled by any chance?06:21
imbrandonit is wanted, just be respectfull about it please06:21
imachineimbrandon, i am my own way mate.06:21
imachineif i offend someone, the better they will remember it.06:21
imachinei suppose im too harsh tho.06:21
imachinesorry then, im not doing any more volunteer work here.06:22
eriksonLjL: yeah , I tried to do it in Kate editor but there was no response or list generated06:22
charlie5_zzzanyone know how to get rid of notification message in bottom right corner (has 'hide'/'hide all' buttons, but they dpnt' work)06:22
imbrandonimachine, you notice i dident /kick you right away, i was meerly watching, just please adhear to the CoC as requested, if you feel that is too much to ask i'm sorry06:22
LjLerikson: you *can* do it in kate as well (you just need to remember to run it as root, like "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list")06:23
LjLerikson: after that, you should see a number of lines pointing to various repositories06:23
imachineimbrandon, yeah, i mean, you are an op for some reason; rarely ops are chosen within somewhat massive channels that have short temper.06:23
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imachineso cheers for that man, but i cant be not myself you know :)06:23
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eriksonok LjL, I'll try that :)06:23
imachinei suppose then its simply not the place for me and thats all ;] 06:23
LjL!tell erikson about easysource06:23
imachinei dont even use kubuntu atm so ;)06:24
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imbrandonwell good luck and you always welcome here just be kind is what we ask, lets take this to #kubuntu-offtopic though if you wish to discuss this more06:25
LjLimachine: well, clearly if you dislike the CoC and the guidelines for this channel, nobody's pointing a gun on you to do any volunteer work here. it's a tradeoff: we might lose valuable people, but we think we gain respect and a "professional" image, if i may say so.06:25
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imachinehmm.06:25
LjLerikson: the site Ubotu gave you can generate a sources.list with the things you want in it. otherwise, just uncomment the lines containing "universe", and append "multiverse" after them if you also want multiverse06:25
imachineLjL, if you wish to discuss this i think imbrandon is making a good point.06:26
LjLerikson: after you're done, "sudo apt-get update" to refresh the cache06:26
imachinei can join if you guys want to talk about it ;)06:26
LjLimachine: myself, i'm there already06:26
imachineok06:26
imbrandonme also i idle there ;)06:26
imachinehmm.06:26
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imachinehang on ;] 06:26
eriksonno, LjL I tried typing root and then the text you wrote but , nothing happens06:27
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LjLerikson: err, where did i tell you to type "root"? :o)06:27
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AbeXhi there06:27
eriksonin kate06:27
ShuT-hi :)06:27
ninHererikson: is it available for you to shift root ?06:27
LjLerikson: no, i never told you that.   just type "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" in a shell, and kate will open with a file in it06:27
LjLerikson: then you need to modify that file to suit your needs06:28
AbeXnow im installing kubuntu... why i ned internet connection for downloading locales? who does it do now? its so long... i have only 160kbps netline06:28
AbeXneed*06:28
AbeXwhat*06:28
ninHerAbeX: ...and you complaint about 160 Kbps06:29
ninHeruhu06:29
ninHeri wouldn't tell you my rate06:29
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AbeX;)06:29
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eriksonLjL:  ok thx , I'll try to follow theinstructions on the kubuntu sources page06:30
ShuT-any app for kubuntu to SHOUTcast? I got a server, so the only thing that i need to do is connect to that server, put some music on .. etc06:30
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AbeXhah06:30
fre1ShuT-: what do you mean ? 'kubuntu to shoutcast' ?06:30
AbeXinstallation complete ;)06:30
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ShuT-well, i had SAM 2 on windows, i just need some alternative of sam 206:31
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fre1ShuT-: describe sam206:32
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AbeXwell, i'm restarting now. mb serious sam 2? ;)06:32
ShuT-lol no AbeX06:32
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ShuT-erm, just some app with a Queu where you put music in06:33
ShuT-and then it should play06:33
AbeXhm06:33
ShuT-and enter somewhere a server to connect to06:33
AbeXi like winamp..06:33
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AbeXoh sorry, its to hot today.. and im installing kubuntu... cya and bb ;)06:34
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marianne_Hi folks!06:39
marianne_I'm just trying to install ndiswrapper on Dapper, but unfortunately it wont06:39
marianne_has anyone got an idea where i might get the kernel sources, as they are required06:40
marianne_hmmm...?06:41
h3sp4wnlinux-headers-38606:41
marianne_ninHer: Im not registered as yet06:42
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marianne_h3sp4wn: so how would be the argument then? make install <path>06:43
ninHermarianne_: is it for a pcmcia card or similar ?06:43
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marianne_ninHer: it is for a wlan usb adpter06:43
h3sp4wnh3sp4wn: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-38606:43
ninHerhave you done a deep search for the drivers, first ?06:44
marianne_ninHer: well, I have stabel drivers for the atheron, I guess06:45
marianne_h3sp4wn: thanks, hope that'll help06:45
stankscan i install packages from dapper on breezy?06:45
stanksi am not talking about base system files, but about utils, apps, etc.06:45
ninHerstanks i think this is a matter of backport at sources.list file06:46
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AbeXwhen asked for user while installing, i typed root...06:48
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LjLAbeX: cool idea ;)06:49
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AbeXstarted kde only after console login..06:49
marianne_AbeX: what about writing whole sentences and not fragments?06:49
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matlechi everyone06:50
marianne_ninHer: have you made any experiences related wlan usb adaptors?06:50
LjLwell even judging from the fragments only, if it were me, i'd reinstall. typing "root" instead of any reasonable username when requested is bound to lead to endless trouble IMHO06:50
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AbeXbe happy that not each word in each line :D sorry for my english, im from latvia06:51
dr_willisim suprised the installer even allowed 'root' as a user name.06:51
LjLdr_willis: the graphical installer is not too smart really06:51
ninHermarianne_ no experiences06:52
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matlecis there any module in kubuntu which allows to easily switch between multiple soundcards?06:52
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JoyiRXHallo06:53
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danuse ndis wrapper for wlan usb - assuming it doesn't work out of the box06:53
marianne_thanks everybody06:53
marianne_the sources are as well as ndiswrapper installed06:53
marianne_cu later, folks06:53
ninHerbye marianne_06:54
danhave you started the ndis wrapper util?06:54
doppelgangerwhat exactly does kubuntu-desktop add to kde?06:54
doppelgangerjust programs, or does it change the interface completely?06:54
doppelgangerjust a general question06:54
AbeXhow can i get "cool" desktop gadjets, like, weatrer or memory meter? :)06:55
bleakedmostly just a default set of apps, new konqueror profiles, kernel splash screen, etc.06:55
AbeXweather*06:55
doppelgangergotcha, thanks bleaked06:55
bleakedAbeX: look into superkaramba06:55
alex_ndcDoes anyone know of a tutorial on installing Xgl and Compiz on KDE ?06:55
matlec.. no one?06:56
doppelgangeri miraculously installed it all through adept and it worked06:56
doppelgangeralex06:56
doppelgangeri dunno, having a problem, or just starting from scratch?06:56
bleakedalex_ndc: there might be a few on ubuntuforums.com06:56
bleakedmatlec: have you tried kmix?06:56
ninHerAbeX: look for gkrellm ; it has a a lot of plugins to install with06:57
matlecwell, kmix has no influence on amarok06:57
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matlecI had to manually remove the kernel modules of my internal card to be able to play sound files on the right speakers ;-)06:58
matlecnot really intuitive06:58
bleakedmatlec: i don't see a point to having two sound cards?06:58
bleakedmatlec: if you use an external or pci or whatever, disable the internal card in your bios06:59
matlecbleaked: I own a notebook which has its outputs on the front06:59
matlecbleaked: and I want to connect my external sound devices06:59
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bleakedmatlec: have you asked in #ubuntu-laptop.. my friend had the same issue, and they helped him hash it out07:00
matlecbleaked: not yet. but the general approach to this problem is to disable the internal card...07:00
matlecbleaked: which is not possible for me07:01
bleakedunderstandable.. well, ask in that channel, and see what they do07:01
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matlecok, thanks07:02
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matlecthe guys at #ubuntu-laptop seem to be sleeping.. ;-)07:08
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matlecwell, if there is no easy possibility yet I'm willing to write a sound card settings dialog or sth for (k)ubuntu07:09
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eriksonuhoh , I screwed up the apt sources list..."E: Type 'gpg' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list"07:12
eriksonnow both adept and synaptic won't open07:12
h3sp4wnerikson: use easysource07:13
SunnyblizardErrors?07:13
h3sp4wn!easysource07:13
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:13
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h3sp4wnerikson: If that doesn't work do sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntukeyring07:13
eriksonthat's what screwed things up, i obviouslt did something wrong from the instructions on that URL07:14
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dwangoacGreetings - I'm going to jump right in with a Kubuntu 6.06 system tray question:07:15
eriksonh3sp4wn: , i get the same error as i quoted07:15
dwangoacHow do you change the system tray icon sizes, or specifically, how do you get them to "bunch" together, two high?07:15
h3sp4wnerikson: And you have generated a new sources.list with easysource ?07:16
dwangoacI have one Kubuntu install where the system tray icons are smaller and stacked two high, but the system I upgraded has larger icons that take up the full height.  I've found nothing on Google in the last 45 minutes.07:16
eriksondon't know what easysource is07:16
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h3sp4wn[18:16]  <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:17
Sunnyblizarddwangoac: right moude click on taskbar, schoose: configure panel,07:17
doppelgangerquick question-  in Kubuntu i've been using Kfrb (Desktop Sharing), but i'm wanting it (or something else) that i can install that will act like a service, so that i can reboot my computer remotely, and still be able to access it when it gets back to the desktop07:17
Sunnyblizardchoose*07:17
eriksonh3sp4wn: do you mean this : http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:18
h3sp4wnyes07:18
eriksonoops yeah, thats where i made the mistake , somehow07:18
dwangoacSunnyblizard: OK, then where?  I haven't found anything specific to the system tray07:18
dwangoacSunnyblizard: Thanks for the help, BTW07:19
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Sunnyblizardsize large does the job here?07:19
h3sp4wnerikson: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list ?07:19
eriksoncopied am=nd pasted the instructions in that box into kate07:19
dwangoacSunnyblizard: Hmm...  Maybe it's not large enough...07:20
dwangoacSunnyblizard: On the system I built from scratch, if I set it to "Normal" size, it stacks them.07:20
eriksonh3sp4wn: it won't generate a list due to the Error07:20
dwangoacSunnyblizard: On this one, it does look like setting it to Large causes the icons to get stacked.  I wonder what the difference is...07:20
h3sp4wnerikson: Put that file onto pastebin and I will take a look at it07:20
matlecdwangoac: do you have a screenshot?07:21
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dwangoacScreenshot: I can get one, but I think I just figured out the threshold -07:21
amundsenhi07:21
dwangoacif you start with Large and then use Custom to inch down one size at a time, you can get the icons to appear with a size of 4807:22
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dwangoacIf you start at something smaller than 48 (like, say, 47) and inch your way up, the icons change back to small at 52.07:22
amundseni'm trying to play some mp3 in my kubuntu dapper with amarok playaer but this program doesn't even start the song07:22
amundseni can lsiten to mp3 with xmms, but not with amarok07:22
timonatorwhat can be the reason if internet access works with the desktop/live/installcd but not with the installed system?07:23
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h3sp4wnadmundsen:  apt-get install libxine-extracodecs07:23
amundsendoes anybody know what could i be doing wrong ?07:23
[GuS] amundsen,  tried to add multiverse repo07:23
h3sp4wnadmundsen:  sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs07:23
amundsenh3sp4wn: thx07:23
matlecdwangoac: seems to be a resizing bug within kde...07:23
[GuS] and then what h3sp4wn  says07:23
dwangoacmatlec: I'd agree.  How would I submit a bug?07:23
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fre1timonator: check that your network card is properly recognized by your current install07:23
matlecdwangoac: check the source and fix it :-)07:24
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dwangoacmatlec: Heh - I'd love to.  :)07:24
timonatorfre1: it is07:24
fre1timonator: 'sudo ip link' in a terminal should show a eth0 or something07:24
timonatoruh, ipconfig does07:24
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timonatorthe thing is07:24
matlecdwangoac: or try to look if a bug report has already been opened (I'm sure)07:24
fre1timonator: ok ifconfig shows an ip address for this card too ?07:24
Leafwwhat is the proper way to setup the sshd ?07:24
Leafw'sshd' doesn't show up in adept07:25
dwangoacmatlec: Where are bug reports for KDE centralized?07:25
matlecdwangoac: I have the same problem here...07:25
fre1Leafw: the one which work :)07:25
timonatorwhen i press reset (like reboot) on the modem (which also is a dhcp server and connects and stuff) i can use the inet for 10 to 15 seconds07:25
dwangoacmatlec: Glad to know I'm not alone.07:25
matlecdwangoac: bugs.kde.org07:25
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fre1Leafw: 'openssh' in adept07:25
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dwangoacmatlec: Thanks again for the assistance.  I think I finally got it set the way I want it.07:25
matlecdwangoac: that's not my fault :-)07:26
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fre1timonator: oh ok so you already know tthat your box got a dhcp client talking to the (adsl i guess) modem07:26
timonatornot really adsl07:26
fre1timonator: so now you need to know why it is stopping07:26
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timonatorit goes through some weird cable, i think it has to do witzh cable tv07:26
fre1timonator: the host talk to the modem via ethernet ?07:26
timonatorexactly07:26
eriksonh3sp4wn:  I don't like to repeat myself but the list won't generate , when I try to I get this message :"E: Type 'gpg' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list"07:26
timonatordid i mention? the modem is also a dhcp server07:27
fre1timonator: ok so it should not make any difference07:27
fre1timonator: you did. so my advice would be to look at the dhcp client log to see07:27
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timonatorok07:27
GoAheadhey07:27
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timonatorwhere do i find it?07:27
h3sp4wnerikson: When you try to open sources.list ?07:27
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cox377Hello all07:27
matlecdwangoac: this bugs seems to related to our problem (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55508)07:27
timonatorah another thing07:27
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eriksonI have get rid of the "gpg" error07:27
fre1timonator: something is happening which make it unusable07:27
eriksonyes h3sp4wn07:27
Search4Lancergrrrrrr Thunderbird is frozen and won't unfreeze....07:27
fre1timonator: try /var/log/dhcpsomething07:27
timonatorwhen i ping the ip of the modem (gateway that is) and then hit the reset button it does the following:07:28
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dwangoacmatlec: That looks very close, yes.07:28
jeff_hey peeps07:28
h3sp4wnerikson: i.e if you run cat /etc/apt/sources.list you get a gpg error ?07:28
jeff_anybody here use skype?07:28
cox377i recently used this command to mount network shares to my kubuntu machine. "mount -t smbfs -o guest //xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/x /home/admin/Desktop/"07:28
timonatorfirst the host is unreachable. then i get some ping replies and all of a sudden ping is quiet and when exitingf it lists a big amount of packet loss07:28
Search4Lancerit tried to index a 1.9 GB folder, which is what boned it, but I even went into the drive and moved the folder somewhere else, so now it doesn't have that folder when I start Thunderbird, but it's still frozed, trying to do something from the drive....07:28
_JPHow do I make "Tools->HTLM Settings->Java" retain it's check state regardless of Konqueror restart?07:28
cox377thing is, it works until i reboot the kubuntu machine then the mounts have been removed and the only way to remount them is run the command ever time07:28
mal_hi guys07:28
dwangoacmatlec: Thanks again for the help.  I appreciate it - been pulling my hair for 45 minutes (not because it's that big of a deal, but because I knew there was SOME way to change it... : )07:29
mal_n00b question here07:29
fre1timonator: hmm but still the ifconfig shows the ip address on the eth0 ?07:29
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DaSkreechdwangoac: Got an answer?07:29
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timonatorfre1: uh, i think so07:29
fre1timonator: hmmm from your last info, dhcp doesnt seems the issue07:29
timonatorforgot, sorry ;(07:29
mal_is there a dir in *nix for building apps in, like Program Files in Windows?07:29
dwangoacDaSkreech: For my question?  Yes - Go to large, then select custom and inch the size down until you get to 48.07:29
eriksonh3sp4wn: I get a long explanation of some sort07:29
eliramhello can anyone help me?07:29
fre1timonator: maybe the arp ?07:30
Search4LancerI think it's time to reboot....07:30
h3sp4wnerikson: Put the output of that command onto pastebin07:30
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h3sp4wn!pastebin07:30
eriksonok07:30
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:30
fre1timonator: hmmm but you said everything was ok with livecd+install but not in install directly ?07:30
timonatorfre1: after the 15 seconds internet after reset period when i try to manually run the dhcclient it sends requests but doesnt get replies07:30
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timonatorfre1: what do you mean by 'livecd+install'?07:30
eliramhow can i run a ftp server in kubuntu?07:30
fre1timonator:  timonator: what can be the reason if internet access works with the desktop/live/installcd but not with the installed system07:31
h3sp4wneliram: sudo apt-get install proftpd07:31
timonatoruh huh07:31
timonatori am running the livce cd right now07:31
h3sp4wneliram: select standalone mode07:31
mal_is there a dir in *nix for building apps in, like Program Files in Windows?07:31
timonatorand chatting with konversation off the livecd07:31
h3sp4wneliram: Or try vsftpd (if you want)07:31
fre1timonator: hmm ok do you have another box from where you could chat here and try command on the kubuntu ?07:32
fre1timonator: try them as i tell you i mean07:32
timonatorfre1: no, i do not have a switch or a hub here07:32
fre1live07:32
timonatorand no neighbours that have open wlans :)07:32
fre1hmm this make the issue harder to fix07:32
timonatorindeed07:32
hubtimonator: thanks for pinging me07:32
timonatorand currently im running apt-get upgrade07:32
fre1timonator: ok you could look at dhcp, maybe arp too.07:32
timonatorhub: no problem07:32
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eriksonh3sp4wn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1784507:33
timonatorarp?07:33
fre1timonator: i dont 'like' the way to ip connectivity suddently stop and moreover only on a installed but not on live cd07:33
fre1timonator: some protocol below ip07:33
timonatoryes07:33
timonatorit is creepy07:33
timonatormysterious07:33
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h3sp4wneliram: sudo netstat -lpAinet (then run that after to check it is listening)07:33
fre1timonator: do 'arp -a' now07:33
fre1timonator: maybe i got an idea much simpler.07:34
h3sp4wnerikson: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list07:34
timonatorwill it break my downlopading? from apt-get upgrade?07:34
eliramthanks07:34
fre1timonator: maybe your network card stop working due to some kernel issue07:34
timonatorno07:34
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timonatorwhen i restart the modem againm it works again07:34
h3sp4wnerikson: Use 'dd' to delete the first 3 lines07:34
fre1timonator: here i specifically think about irqpoll, and acpi07:34
h3sp4wnerikson: just press d and then d again then finally type :wq!07:35
fre1timonator: nope 'arp -a' only display the arp table. nothing dangerous or anything07:35
timonatoroke07:35
eriksonh3sp4wn: where ?07:35
timonatorhold on a second :)07:35
fre1timonator: just to show you what it is07:35
timonatorits german, tho07:35
timonatorip1.52.1411D-CUD12K-01.ish.de (62.143.52.1) auf 00:50:57:00:55:3B [ether]  auf eth007:35
h3sp4wnerikson: In sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list07:35
fre1timonator: ok you can try that when it fails07:35
fre1timonator: but i think im all wrong in my 'network' way to fix the issue. likely because im a 'network' guy07:36
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fre1timonator: it is more likely a kernel issue.07:36
h3sp4wnerikson: You could use something other than vim but thats all I use (so can remember the commands off the top of my head)07:36
fre1timonator: i see that from the 'work on livecd but fail on install'07:36
timonatordoes the installed system have another kernel than the livecd does?07:36
h3sp4wnerikson: But either way you don't need the first 3 lines07:36
eriksonim in the konsol, h3sp4wn07:36
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fre1timonator: so look in /var/log/messages for 'bad' stuff07:37
Search4Lancergrrrrr Thunderbird still freezes......07:37
timonatori need to do that in the 'broken' system, right?07:37
timonatorbecause if so i need to wait another 3/4 hours (33 KB/s updating is a pain!)07:37
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fre1timonator: try to find 'acpi' or 'irqpool' or anything which doesnt look nice :)07:37
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fre1timonator: well note that on paper for later then :)07:38
timonatoruh huh07:38
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h3sp4wnerikons: Just run these commands exactly as I write them (only four lines)07:38
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fre1timonator: and you may try to put 'irqpool acpi=off' as boot option07:38
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DaSkreecheliram: You rpobably want a sftp server07:38
eliramwhat is sftp?07:39
Sunnyblizardsecure ftp07:39
eliramhoo07:39
timonatorfre1: i will try the kernel options07:39
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eliramyes i need a secure ftp07:39
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timonatorits not funny how my first attempt to install linux for a friend (a cousin in this case) fails so spectacularly07:39
elirami new to linux07:40
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h3sp4wnerikons: sudo -i07:40
h3sp4wnerikons: echo "deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted multiverse universe" > /etc/apt/sources.list07:40
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h3sp4wnerikons: echo deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted multiverse universe >> /etc/apt/sources.list07:42
ceplmaCan anybody tell me, how adept_notifier gets updated package lists? Is there some cron task which does it? It seems to me (from looking at the code) that adept_notifier actually doesn't connect to the Internet, just checks whether packages are newer than before.07:42
h3sp4wnerikons: echo deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted multiverse universe >> /etc/apt/sources.list07:42
DaSkreecheliram: install openssh :)07:42
jeff_whats the hotkey to switch desktops in kubuntu again?07:42
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eliramDaSkreech: Thanks a lot07:43
h3sp4wnerikons: echo deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted multiverse universe >> /etc/apt/sources.list07:43
ceplmajeff_: Ctrl-Tab?07:43
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h3sp4wnerikons: The lines should be without spaces but those are all you need in it for all the repos07:43
TheMoebiusI'm trying to use KTorrent to download a series of images and it when I hope the torrent file it says "Error starting torrent : Can't open blahblah.jpg : Too many open files" What the deal?07:43
jeff_ceplma: i keep trying ti but it doesnt work07:43
gemidjyhow do I make Beagle index my FS07:43
ceplmajeff_: Control Panel/Regional & Accessibility/Keyboard Shortcuts/Shortcut schemes/Global shortcuts07:45
jeff_DaSkreech: do you have a (k)(x)ubuntu server? is there a way you can manage an ubuntu server with some sort of gui instead of just a terminal?07:45
jeff_ceplma: thanks mate07:45
timonatorjeff_: vnc? xdmcp?07:45
DaSkreechjeff_ Ctrl+F<n>07:46
jeff_?07:46
jeff_timonator: ill check those out07:46
DaSkreechWhat do you mean a GUI you installed a server but want a Desktop as well?07:46
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jeff_DaSkreech: yeah, i want apps to help me understand and manage my server because im a complete rookie07:47
abattoirjeff_: you can install the meta-package kubuntu-desktop to get KDE07:47
jeff_abattoir: yeah07:47
abattoir!info kubuntu-desktop07:47
ubotukubuntu-desktop: Kubuntu desktop system. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.85 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB07:47
jeff_abattoir: i got that far07:47
ceplmajeff_: It is not clear what exactly would like you like to manage. There are tons of solutions (I am not sure, which one of them are in Ubuntu -- still at plain Debian) like webmin or many others. OTOH I think the best admin tool is ssh+vim :-)07:48
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DaSkreechjeff_: Why are you runing a server then?07:48
abattoirok, try 'startx' or 'kdm' as root07:48
jeff_DaSkreech: because i want a server. i wanna make a website and manage a server07:48
DaSkreechha ha ok Fine as long as this isn't for a business :)07:48
timonatoris there a package for the nvidia gfx card drivers or does one have to install them with the installer from nvidia.com?07:49
jeff_DaSkreech: lol07:49
DaSkreechjeff_: First of all which desktop do you want?07:49
fre1kubuntu-desktop: Kubuntu desktop system. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.85 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB <- wow that a slim kde :)07:49
jeff_DaSkreech: ubuntu07:49
jeff_DaSkreech: im not on the server right now07:49
ceplmajeff_: ssh+vim -- really, life is too short to have to learn BOTH apache configuration and translating between its requirements and weird ideas of whoever made the GUI admin tool.07:49
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jeff_DaSkreech: i installed LAMP on my server at home and ubuntu-desktop07:50
DaSkreechjeff_:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop07:50
DaSkreechAnd there you go07:50
ceplmafre1: try apt-cache showpkg kubuntu-desktop or try to select the package in aptitude :-)07:50
jeff_ceplma: ok07:50
ceplmajeff_: ehm, but then you are in the wrong channel, aren't you? ubuntu-desktop is Gnome, right?07:50
DaSkreechHe's on KDE right now is my guess07:51
jeff_ceplma: yeah07:51
jeff_DaSkreech:07:51
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jeff_ceplma: DaSkreech: have you guys ever tried skype?07:54
DaSkreechA while back07:54
jeff_to make a pc to phone call07:54
jeff_yeah07:54
jeff_it says its free to call canada07:54
jeff_which is where i am and where im trying to call07:54
jeff_but it always says call failed07:54
Lynourejeff_: Way back you might have needed a Skype Out contract even when calling cost free landline numbers. Might be still so. Check the company pages for more info07:58
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jeff_thanks Lynoure07:59
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DaSkreechhi imbrandon08:00
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imbrandonheya DaSkreech , and gnight , just laying down for a nap08:01
tom-barhow to do install latest version of kopete?08:02
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Hawkwindtom-bar: apt-get install kopete and if it's on the repos it will install it or upgrade your current version08:02
h3sp4wntom-bar: First update to kde 3.5.3 (instructions on kubuntu.org) then use the packages in riddels home directory08:03
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tom-barthanks man08:04
tom-bar"apt-get install kopete " thanks08:04
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nigel_hello08:06
nigel_anyone here know's how to set your wireless connection to automatically reconnect after disconnection ?08:06
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AllegulaHi, i have a problemm08:14
AllegulaOh no, it fixes it selfes08:14
AllegulaAnyway, thank you08:14
markrianNo problem!08:14
DaSkreechYour welcome!08:14
AllegulaByeBye!08:14
DaSkreechPlease come again!08:14
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markrianhehe...08:14
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jaroSHould I manually install a higher Xorg ??08:15
jaroand how will I know which Xorg Version ive got ?08:16
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uniqjaro: in konsole type 'X -version'08:17
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jaroX Window System Version 7.0.008:17
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h3sp4wnjaro: If you want xorg 7.1 you will probably have trouble getting it08:17
jarois there a newer Version available ?08:17
jarooh08:17
jarowell the LCD Screen of my laptop is makeing trouble08:18
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eriksonI guess I should just reinstall the OS , since can't get adept or synaptic to open to sources.."08:18
eriksonsudo apt-get update08:18
eriksonE: Type 'gpg' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list08:18
jaroright now Im using an external monitor , so it works08:18
uniqh3sp4wn: as you're up to date on everything. Anything new and cool in 7.1 ? :)08:18
h3sp4wnerikson: just remove the top three lines08:18
h3sp4wnuniq: support for aiglx08:18
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eriksontried that , itdidn't work08:18
h3sp4wnuniq: updated r300 driver (which I wanted to try before I junked my ati card)08:19
h3sp4wnuniq: Only distro's I know which you can use xorg 7.1 in are gentoo and mandriva cooker (may be others) but binary drivers (fglrx / nvidia) don't work with it08:20
uniqok.08:20
Hexidigitalanyone else have problems logging back into KDE when they lock the screen?08:20
uniqI don't use binary drivers anyway.. but i sure don't want to compile it myself right now.08:20
uniqhexidigital: not me.08:20
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eriksonh3sp4wn: , i saved the source changes in the kate editor , but now I can't find them ...I think that may be trhe problem:(08:21
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h3sp4wnerikson: from run run - kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:21
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jaroModule em2880_dvb not found.08:23
jarohow can that be ?08:23
steveireubuntuforums is really ugly now. Must find which skin to change back to08:23
jaroI used it this morning08:23
uniqjaro: security updates. Did you compile it yourself?08:24
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jarouniq:  yes08:25
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uniqjaro: then you'll have to do it again, for the new kernel, i guess.08:25
jarouniq:  i updatet something today.. what does that mean ?08:25
jarouniq:  oh the new kernel08:25
jarouniq:  right :(08:25
uniqnew kernel means new modules.08:25
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KeltagWhat advantages are there to running in 64bit?08:26
steveireis it possible to use aptitude/apt-get to upgrade only some packages, but not all? I tried sudo aptitude upgrade open*, but that didn't work08:26
eriksoncool h3sp4wn, I removed the first 2 lines that I hgad pasted from the instructions box on the easysource page ...problem solved !  :)08:26
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gnomefreakKeltag: IMHO none08:27
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gnomefreakKeltag: they say its faster08:27
goemon4hey, does anyone, can anyone help my sync my ipod with amarok...8i cant seem to do it08:27
h3sp4wnerikson: I thought it would just tryed a few different ways to get that done08:27
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KeltagAh, i'm running in 32 right now and I wondered if it was going to be worth my time to change over08:28
cox377does xmms not play video?08:28
h3sp4wnKeltag: There is now a wrapper for running 32bit firefox modules with firefox 6408:28
eriksonnow I need to find more sources without fucking things up :)08:28
h3sp4wnNon official sources probably will cause you problems08:29
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Keltagh3sp4wn: That's good at least08:29
eriksonyep roger that08:29
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eriksonwill swiftfox run in32 bit ?08:30
jeff_does anybody know if kontact has mail grouping by day like in outlook 2003?08:30
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danlI have a serious issue, this morning I installed the new updates, now I can't login from gui, when i login on console it scrolls something about /dev/null and permission denied08:31
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cristianohello08:32
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danlI have to press cnt+c to stop the scrolling08:32
boxdoes anybody know how i can kill the GUI like going to runstate 3 or /ect/init.d/kdm stop ?08:32
boxi tryed sevral options though no luck08:32
cristianoi've problems with key mapping here, it gives me error so accented keys are not working anymore here, and all happens suddenly!!!!how to fix this???08:32
h3sp4wnsudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop08:33
hustlahi guys ... can someone help me by a dns problem?08:33
boxoh cool08:33
jarohm, why is permission denied though i am root ?08:33
boxi totaly forgot about sudo08:33
boxtnx :)08:33
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cristianohei h3sp4wn i understood that is key mapping the prob, even the icon on the taskbar gives me an error when trying to switch from a map to another :(08:34
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hustlaso i tried apt-get update and all i got was error by adresstranslation08:34
steveireCan you get XGL working on KDE?08:34
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Hawkwindsteveire: You can if you wanted08:34
Hawkwind!xgl08:34
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems08:34
danlis /dev/null suppose to have a crw------- perms?08:34
bur[n] er_steveire: i have it working :)  i use compiz08:35
jaroah ok.. i had to actually BE root08:35
steveireI might have a look some time.08:35
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h3sp4wncristiano: I only use english so can't really help you maybe try room of your native language or is it english08:35
uniqdanl: crw-rw-rw-08:35
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steveireI really want to sort this aptitude thing out though08:35
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cristianoh3sp4wn: it is not related to language08:35
bur[n] er_anyone around today who knows how to change the default "folder" icon?  i want to use teh tango icon08:35
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timonatorwho was that who helped me before?08:36
cristianoh3sp4wn: is a problem related to key mapping in general! it's impossible to define a key map for the keyboard!08:36
timonatorfre1: you still there?08:36
h3sp4wncristiano: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales08:36
cristianook i try08:36
fre1timonator: yep.. fighthin with gnutls and selfsigne cert08:36
timonatorheh08:37
fre1timonator: and failling :) but it is unrelated08:37
fre1timonator: whatsup ?08:37
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timonatori set the two kernel options and it worked shortly after boot, but only fort a short time08:37
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timonatorfor like... 15 seconds?08:37
fre1timonator: so no change ?08:37
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fre1timonator: do you run a laptop ?08:38
timonatorwell, yes, somehow, i dont recall being able to connect to the net with the install after boot08:38
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timonatori also run a laptop, but it doesnt have kubuntu on it08:38
serenitydoes anyone of you know a good mp3 tagger with musicbrainz support?08:38
fre1timonator: so the failling box is not a laptop ?08:38
bur[n] er_serenity: rhythmbox?08:38
timonatorexactly08:38
cristianoh3sp4wn: done08:38
timonatorthe laptop i got runs gentoo and it works perfectly08:39
fre1timonator: hmm i dunno08:39
cristianoh3sp4wn: now?08:39
h3sp4wncristiano: Usually that asks which locales you want to generate08:39
fre1timonator: more over my brain is off now :) but my guess is the kernel is disabeling your network card08:39
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fre1timonator: if so, it should likely appears in /var/log/messages08:39
cristianoh3sp4wn: it didn't ask anything, it just regenerate all the locales08:39
timonatorok ill reboot and see into the file08:39
timonatorbbl08:39
fre1timonator: what is your network card ?08:39
fre1ok08:40
h3sp4wncristiano: Is your keyboard english or us or ?08:40
uniqh3sp4wn: it's now localeconf, it's a separate package, download and install.08:40
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cristianois it08:40
fre1no channel for poor coder trying to verify selfsigned cert thru gnutls ? :)08:40
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cristianoh3sp4wn: is italian08:40
h3sp4wncristiano: Do as uniq says08:41
h3sp4wnuniq: Cheers08:41
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uniqcristiano: 'sudo apt-get install localeconf'08:41
hustlahello .. someone who can help me with my DNS prob???08:41
uniqhustla: yes, please explain to me what the problem is.08:41
roobhustla: yea08:42
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hustlai cant connect to the internet ... networkinterface is still right configured08:42
cristianouniq: done08:42
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cristianouniq: now what to do?08:42
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SpAwNhustla: check /etc/resolv.conf08:43
hustlamaybe i need to set the dns server08:43
SpAwNmake sure u have entried like nameserver 1.2.3.408:43
uniqcristiano: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow localeconf'08:43
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uniqhustla: do you know your isp's nameservers ip addresses?08:43
SpAwNhustla: u can goto websites if u enter a ip...just not a hostname?08:43
hustlaKonnte http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/Release.gpg nicht holen  Temporrer Fehlschlag beim Auflsen von de.archive.ubuntu.com08:44
h3sp4wnhustla: (if you need a dns server to test with try 194.112.32.1 (I know I built it a few years ago its never down)08:44
SpAwNhustla: i am in eastcoast usa..but here is 2 nameservers i use08:44
SpAwNnameserver 71.243.0.1208:44
SpAwNnameserver 151.203.0.8508:44
SpAwNthat way u should at least be able to google for more nameservers closer to you08:45
fre1hustla: do 'ping 71.243.0.12' to see if you got answer08:45
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cristianouniq: done08:45
cristianouniq: now?08:46
hustlai can't write to resolve.conf08:46
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SpAwNsudo nano /etc/resolv.conf08:46
uniqcristiano: didn't you get the option to choose and configure locale?08:46
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cristianoyep i did it so08:47
h3sp4wnhustla: Any changes you make to resolv.conf will be lost on reboot08:47
cristianouniq: yep i had it and i chose08:47
eriksonwhat's the ubuntu easysource URL ?08:47
eriksongoogle does have it08:47
eriksonnot08:47
SpAwNhustla: i make a /etc/resolv.conf.backup ....then if they get erases i just replace the old one08:48
BurnyFreeHi08:48
uniqhustla: echo -e 'nameserver 195.20.224.101 \n nameserver 212.227.123.15' > /etc/resolv.conf08:48
hustla[20:48]  <hustla> cant do changes with the resolvconf -a #####08:48
BurnyFreeWHere can i find the libdvdcss2 file?08:48
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BurnyFreei want to watch dvd and have heard that this file is required08:49
fre1hustla: maybe you should test your ip connectivity first ? :)08:49
uniqhustla: that is one command on one line. I wouldn't bother backing it up as it's a 3 line file and in it's current state it doesn't work for you. Do you use resolvconf by the way?08:49
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cristianouniq: it has updated locales but the keyboard mapping still doesn't work (for any language)08:49
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uniqcristiano: console keyboard mappings?08:49
cristianouniq: every apps key mapping08:49
hugelmopf!tell BurnyFree about libdvdcss08:49
hustlayes but it doesn't work08:49
uniqcristiano: in X?08:49
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h3sp4wnhustla: to make them permanent you need to edit  /etc/dhclient.conf (if you are using dhcp)08:50
cristianouniq: the icon in the task bar for the key map change tells me that there is an error08:50
cristianouniq: yes in all X08:50
uniqcristiano: what is the error message?08:50
hustlano i don't want to use dhcp ... it's a static server08:50
cristianouniq it says "error in changin keymapping"08:51
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Lynoureerikson: not easysource, but easyubuntu?08:51
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cristianouniq: it looks like X is not accepting any keymap08:52
uniqcristiano: strange. works perfectly here. in system settings - regional and accessibillity - keyboard layout  do you have a list of country layouts?08:52
cristianouniq: yes08:53
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cristianouniq: but whatever i choose it doesn't work08:53
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eriksonyeah thx Lynoure , found the sources list ...now what? . Do I copy and paste them into synaptic or ?08:53
uniqcristiano: is this dapper drake?08:54
cristianouniq: yes08:54
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cristianouniq: the problem happened suddenly08:54
uniqcristiano: did you try to logout and re-login08:54
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cristianouniq: i just tried installing cedega 5.0.1 and it downloaded something related to win-fon or so and then everything was messed up08:55
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cristianouniq: yes i also restarted08:55
uniqcristiano: is this a problem for other users too?08:55
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uniqcristiano: if you create a test-user, and login to kde, does this problem remain?08:56
cristianoi'll try just a mom08:56
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hugelmopf!tell erikson about sources08:56
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danlwhat is the permissions for /dev/null suppose to be?09:00
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uniqdanl: 66609:00
uniqdanl: that's crw-rw-rw-09:01
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danlok09:01
danlthanks09:01
danlcause mine is crw-------09:02
danli guess thats what causing my problems09:02
cristianouniq: nothing to do :(09:02
Hexidigitalanyone have problems with the KDE lock screen feature? i.e. logging back in?09:02
uniqcristiano: doesn't work there either?09:02
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cristianouniq: even in the login page accented keys (even if shifted or alted) work09:02
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cristianosry i mean didn't work09:02
danlomg, thank you so muhc uniq09:03
danli can login now :-D09:03
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mikearthurwhy does postfix give me a "postalias: fatal: open database /etc/aliases.db: Permission denied" I'm root!09:04
cristianouniq: i really dunno what to do with my key mapping :(09:04
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MitchMpostfix runs as a specified user09:04
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bam_anyone know where the right click menu items are kept.....09:05
danllike i said, thanks uniq.09:05
uniqdanl: you're welcome. You might want to look at /etc/udev/permissions.d/udev.permissions and make sure the entry for /dev/null is setup correctly.09:07
cristianouniq: i'll have a reboot now but honestly i dunno what to do :(09:08
uniqcristiano: you can set the keyboard layout in X itself. try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'09:08
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mikearthurwhy does postfix give me a "postalias: fatal: open database /etc/aliases.db: Permission denied" I'm root!09:08
visik7mikearthur: you but not the user used to run postfix09:08
visik7check permiss and try again09:09
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doppelgangeranyone run vnc server on their machine?09:09
doppelganger(kubuntu machine)09:10
doppelgangera vnc server of any kind09:10
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timonatorheya09:10
doppelgangeri know there's a built in one kfrb or something, but i need one that'll run as a service09:10
doppelgangerso i can remotely shut down my machine and be able to log back into it09:11
timonatorfre1: interesting stuff. now i was able to browse a bitz through the net, but then it froze. before that i rmmodded and then modprobed the tulip module09:11
MitchMyou search apt-cache yet?09:11
uniqmikearthur: try 'sudo lsattr /etc/aliases.db'09:11
timonatornext time i tried it my keyboard stopped working09:11
timonatorand now it didnt have any effect at all09:11
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timonatorfre1: do you think buying a new (realtek!) network card would help?09:11
mikearthuruniq: the file doesn't exist, apt deletes it every time it tries to install postfix, then complains about no permisions09:11
cristianonothing to do :(((((((((((((((((((09:12
uniqmikearthur: hah.. that's strange.09:12
uniqcristiano: no dice?09:12
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cristianouniq:  no :(09:12
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mikearthuruniq: managed to fix it myself :D09:12
kiwnixdoppelganger: try vnc4server ... or tightvncserver09:12
cristianoit looks like linux is not accepting key maps anymore :'(((((((09:12
uniqcristiano: what exactly was it you were installing when this broke?09:12
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fre1timonator: well the fact you get it working on livecd tells a lot09:12
MitchMdoppelganger: Whats run with using any VNC program and starting it from SSH?09:13
timonatorget it working? that sounds like i have to do something in order to make it work09:13
cristianouniq: i was installing cedega, is asked to install something about fonts during setup wizard, i restarted pc and suddenly i saw that accented keys (even if alted or shifted) weren't working09:13
doppelgangeri'm not worried about the security09:13
doppelgangerhonestly09:13
doppelgangerit's going through a secure enough connection, it's inside my lan09:14
MitchMdoppelganger: sudo apt-get install doppelganger09:14
MitchMbah.09:14
fre1timonator: well i have to go. good luck09:14
MitchMdoppelganger: sudo apt-get install vnc4server09:14
doppelgangeri just need a vnc program for kde with a proven, working service mode09:14
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doppelgangersomething i don't have to go configure a bunch of files to get working09:14
MitchMand you have tried kdrc?09:15
timonatoroh noes09:15
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MitchMkrdc*09:15
doppelgangeri've seen krdc in adept09:15
uniqcristiano: i have no more suggestions. It's very hard to help when i don't know what this magic installing stuff has done to break stuff for you.09:15
doppelgangerhaven't tried it, it supports service?09:15
MitchMlooking now09:15
doppelgangeri'll google, no worries09:15
uniqkrdc is slow and not very good.09:15
uniqimho.09:16
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doppelgangerslowness be damned, i just need access09:16
doppelganger=)09:16
MitchMlook @ sudo apt-cache search vnc09:16
timonatormy aunt is going to write a flam FAX to her ISP for not supporting linux on the techsupport phone line o_O09:16
doppelgangerdid already09:16
cristianouniq: i appreciated ur help though :) in the worst case tomorrow i'll be reinstalling linux again ;)09:16
ninHerwhy don't you try x11vnc ?09:16
scotthey, wondered if anyone could help. using the latest ati fglrx drivers, google earth (also latest version) hard locks after only a minute or two of using it, anyone have any ideas why/fixes to the problem??09:16
doppelgangeri see a thousand different ones09:16
doppelgangeri just wanted a good solid one that i don't have to go into text files configuring properly09:17
doppelgangerfor service mode, that is09:17
doppelgangereveryone one i've researched you've gotta do this, do that09:17
doppelgangerblah, i just need a quick working m'fer09:17
MitchMEverything takes _some_ setup.09:17
doppelgangerlol09:17
doppelgangeri'm fine in gui09:17
ninHerdoppelganger: give it a try to x11vnc09:18
doppelgangerget pissy in texts when in a hurry09:18
scottcommand line > gui09:18
MitchMrgr that scott09:18
scottcar eto help me with my problem ;)09:18
doppelgangeri'll look that up ninHer, thank you09:18
scott*care to09:18
doppelgangerand kdrc09:18
MitchMwhats the problem?09:18
MitchMget back to us doppelganger if you dont figure out anything09:18
doppelgangerthanks guys for the suggestions, btw09:18
scottlatest ati fglrx driver and goolgle earth, i get hard lockups09:18
MitchMeek.09:19
MitchMDefinetly not a question for myself.09:19
scott:(09:19
MitchMask around :-P09:19
scottit happened in previous ati drivers too, so its not just the latest09:19
scottwill do ;)09:19
scottmight try in #ubuntu ;)09:19
MitchMaye, good idea.09:19
MitchMYou have JFGI eh?09:19
ninHerdoppelganger: http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/09:20
doppelgangerlooks... configuring-ish09:20
doppelgangerlol09:20
MitchMlolz.09:20
doppelgangerwell... here's my problem09:20
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doppelgangeri'm remoting into that machine from work, or trying to09:20
MitchMwhat all do you need to do?09:21
MitchMSSH should work fine.09:21
doppelgangerwell, i'm already remoted in as we speak, only because i started a session this morning htrough the desktop sharing app already in kubuntu09:21
eriksonstrange that apt-file isn't in the sources list09:21
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doppelgangerbut...  i need to reboot the pc, and i need to make ****SURE**** i can get back in09:21
MitchMapt-get isntall ssh09:21
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MitchMthen ssh in and open the program09:21
ninHerno, MitchM it will not work09:22
MitchMnot for GUI stuff09:22
h3sp4wnopenssh-server09:22
h3sp4wnUse freenx for gui stuff09:22
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ninHerssh needs an open computer to work and i guess he means reboot the box09:22
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MitchMbut after the computer reboots09:22
MitchMSSH is loaded by default09:23
MitchMallowing him access again09:23
doppelgangeri need to see the kubuntu (kde, whatever) desktop09:23
h3sp4wnSetup freenx before you reboot09:23
ninHerbut this is not the point09:23
h3sp4wn!freenx09:23
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ubotufreenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX09:23
doppelgangerhmm, ok09:23
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MitchMI second ubotu's idea.09:23
h3sp4wnIf ssh is already working then freenx works over ssh so you will have no problems09:23
doppelgangerif it weren't so mission critical i wouldn't be so picky right now09:23
h3sp4wnmission critical using vnc ? rofl09:24
doppelgangerlol09:24
ShuT-lol09:24
grizzlyExactly which is the package for virtual desktops? and can it be replaced?09:24
doppelgangerwell..  i'm new to linux anyways..  i'm doing what i can09:24
doppelganger=P09:24
doppelgangeri'm a wee noob, there i said it09:24
timonatornoobie! noobie!09:24
MitchMuse vim -- its your friend.09:25
h3sp4wndoppelganger: Well why are you responsible for mission critical stuff ?09:25
MitchM*chuckles*09:25
doppelgangerwell to me it's mission critical  =S09:25
doppelgangerlol09:25
scotti hate vim :(09:25
MitchMaww!09:25
MitchMtake it back09:25
timonatorscott: go get a life!09:25
scottnano much easier ;)09:25
timonator:P09:25
MitchMno no no *shakes head*09:25
scott:P09:25
MitchM=)09:26
MitchMvim = cooler09:26
scottgeekier yes ;)09:26
doppelganger!vim09:26
h3sp4wnnano is annoying if you want to go that way you should use emacs09:26
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code09:26
ninHeri love vim09:26
timonatorvim == t3h l33t pwn4g309:26
MitchMyes. see... everyone cool loves vim.09:26
doppelgangereh09:26
scotthhaha09:26
MitchMbe cool; use vim.09:26
scottim not cool :(09:26
MitchMlol.09:26
timonatorif things are dim, give em vim :x09:26
scottpretty hot at this moment :(09:26
ninHerso, don't use vim....09:26
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MitchMwe could make the new Vim sloan09:27
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MitchMslogan*09:27
scottbah, no one is helping me with my google earth problem :(09:27
timonatorgo ahead, whats your idea?09:27
MitchMaye. Google earth is too new.09:27
h3sp4wnscott: installed it with sudo and you can not run it as a user ?09:27
MitchMmay have trouble with that one09:27
timonatorscott: i would like to, but i have a pretty huge problem here as well09:27
scotth3sp4wn: no, it hard locks on me :(09:27
h3sp4wnscott: Never worked once ?09:28
scotttimonator: cool name09:28
MitchMI mainly run command-line server; so the graphics stuff is over my head.09:28
scotth3sp4wn: yeah it loads and works, but hard locks after a minute or two09:28
timonatorscott: thanks, i thought it up when i was like 10 or so :)09:28
h3sp4wnscott: ati video card ?09:28
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scotth3sp4wn: yes09:28
scotth3sp4wn: latest ati fglrx drivers09:28
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scottalthough it hardlocked with previous drivers too09:28
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h3sp4wnI reacently junked my ati and got nvidia (fed up of poor drivers)09:29
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timonator\o/  @ h3sp4wn09:29
scottgonna do the same when i can afford a new mobo, processor, ram, graphics card, hard drive :(09:29
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LynoureWhatever works, work09:29
scottand case :(09:29
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timonator+s09:29
h3sp4wnAti doesn't work properly most of the time (well didn't for me)09:30
Lynoureh3sp4wn: I was born lucky :)09:30
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[GuS] never works fine ati...09:30
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scottcaus ati on linux sucks balls09:30
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[GuS] not just on linux :P09:30
scottworks a damnsite better on winblows than linux tbh ;O)09:31
h3sp4wnLynoure: I did get it working better (i.e not locking up on reboot) but had to use my own kernel - (apply the highmem.h patch to get it looking right) but the opensource drivers only lasted about 30 seconds09:31
h3sp4wnLynoure: Probably as I have an nforce motherboard and nvidia deliberately breaks ati working with it though09:31
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Lynoureh3sp4wn: For a while I wished you were talking about the hp 1022. But I guess weekend will be spend compiling and stracing away09:32
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scottthinkin of ditchin k(ubuntu) for gentoo or debian09:32
gatekeeperthanx Lynoure for dpkg -l :-)09:33
MitchMscott.. never!09:33
h3sp4wnLynoure: I have a hp laserjet 4 - works perfectly and built like a tank - I use lpd (no cups) never had any trouble had the /etc/termcap for years09:33
scottit feels a bit bloated :(09:33
MitchMUbuntu is based off debain..09:33
MitchMaww.09:33
Lynouregatekeeper: :)09:33
scottbut with debian you get bare bones and get to choose :)09:33
MitchMwell..09:33
MitchMapt-get remove09:33
MitchMor install Gnome09:33
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MitchMsounds like you'd like gnome better09:33
jaro[17181019.104000]  usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 9209:34
jaro[17181030.648000]  usb 1-1: device not accepting address 92, error -11009:34
jarowhats wrong ?09:34
h3sp4wnscott: You wouldn't notice much difference - and if you were intending to use unstable you would get next to no help in #debian etc09:34
Lynoureh3sp4wn: I used to have the huge network version of hp lj 4, but it was too huge and I couldn't fit it with me when I moved. And this baby worked fine in Debian, so I was in shock when it didn't in ubuntu09:34
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scotti ditched gnome for kde tbh ;)09:34
jaroit used to work before with old kernel09:34
h3sp4wnLynoure: Mine is pretty huge but connected by a parallel port09:34
scottanyone else seen the troubleshooting guide for ati cards?09:34
scotthttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Troubleshooting09:34
MitchMaye. I like Kde better09:34
Lynoureh3sp4wn: But at least I know it can work in linux, and can work very easily in some cases,  which is goodness09:34
MitchMyeah...09:35
MitchMshould be some support out there09:35
MitchMyou google it of course?09:35
gatekeepertimonator: want to give gentoo a go, probable when the weather gets miserable09:35
scotttried, get nothing (well nothing related, they just waffle on bout google earth being released for linux :()09:35
h3sp4wnLynoure: Try getting the latest version of cups from sid (instead of the broken version in dapper - (deb-src) and apt-get -b source09:35
Lynoureh3sp4wn: mine was, if I remember right, about 70cm x 75 cm x 30 cm. Too huge, that. Having a netwrok printer was nice, though09:35
timonatorgatekeeper: heh, you mean when it gets cold? :)09:36
scottgentoo is excellent, although i triedf it at a time when i was probably too newb to full run it smoohtly, ie, i had like 1200 config files that needed updating and i didnt update a single one ;)09:36
h3sp4wnLynoure: Mine is about that size09:36
Lynoureh3sp4wn: So far I was betting my money on getting a newer versio of hplip09:36
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MitchMI tampered with linux forever because my job required... but really enjoyed the ubuntu expreince; got me hoooked.09:36
gatekeepertimonator: well summer has arrived so there is no way I going to be spending too much time with my pc when I can be soaking up the rays :-)09:37
MitchMexperience*09:37
timonatoro_O09:37
gatekeeperhave to make the most of it09:37
h3sp4wnLynoure: I don't know anything about printing (other than cups on dapper is pretty broken) - mine just works has for ages (You don't learn about stuff without experiencing issues I suppose)09:37
timonatorhow can i make apt-cache show available and installed versions of packets?09:37
Lynoureh3sp4wn: I would have tried hplip from sid but it didn't play nice with ubuntu package numbering09:37
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gatekeeperh3sp4wn: there was a load of updates the other day, nothing improved?09:38
timonatoror only search for installed packages?09:38
scottcould my goolgle earth hardlocks be because of settings like these two in my xorg.conf? Option    "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" and Option    "KernelModuleParm" "agplock=0"09:38
Lynouregatekeeper: I haven't tried since... I should09:39
gatekeepertimonator: dpkg -l09:39
timonatorthanks09:39
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Lynouregatekeeper: :)09:39
gatekeeperLynoure: gave me a few minutes ago timonator:09:39
Lynouregatekeeper: putting it in good use, aren't you :)09:39
eriksonwhat's the URL for Automatix pls ?09:39
timonatordpkg -i doesnt seem so search for stuff09:39
gatekeeperyep09:39
timonatorhehe09:39
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newbie_hi @ll09:39
gatekeepersure am :-)09:39
newbie_can anyone help me with my dhcp problem?09:40
Lynourenewbie_: possibly, if you give details of it09:40
deinim having troubles with pitivi09:40
newbie_i wanted to install xubuntu using the install cd ... during installation dhcp failed09:41
Lynouretimonator: -i is install, what gatekeeper said was -l09:41
timonatorah, is that an l? or a big i?09:41
deinits reliant on gstreamer, and i've never gotten gstreamer to work right09:41
newbie_so i decided to install it later on09:41
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newbie_but i can't get it working ..09:41
Lynouretimonator: l like Lynoure without the caps09:41
timonator?09:42
SpAwNhello all im trying to use my 120 gig external usb driver....i pluged it in and it didnt show up in mdeia or my desktop so here is the output of dmesg...can anyone help me get it mounted? http://pastebin.ca/8634109:42
Lynouretimonator:   man dpkg   if you are confused09:42
newbie_when i use sudo ifup eth0 i get ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth009:42
MitchMpastebin /etc/network/interfaces09:42
MitchMnewbie_09:42
newbie_how should i do it .. linux isn't running here09:43
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MitchMso where is your linux machine?09:43
LynoureSpAwN: What's in it at the moment? which filesystem, if any?09:43
SpAwNfat09:43
timonatorcan anyone help me with trying to install a newer version of the tulip driver? :o09:43
SpAwNfat32 i think09:43
newbie_my linux machine is a different machine09:44
newbie_this one is windows xp driven09:44
MitchMare you using DHCP?09:44
newbie_yes09:44
SpAwNLynoure, b4 i just plugged it in and it showed up...was nice....but now i just need to xfer files off of it09:44
MitchMmake sure that the listing for eth0 is as follows:09:44
MitchMauth eth009:45
MitchMiface eth0 inet dhcp09:45
LynoureSpAwN: That you can prolly handle :)09:45
MitchMauto eth0*09:45
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MitchMin the file /etc/network/interfaces09:45
MitchMthen do a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart09:45
SpAwNLynoure, huh?09:46
LynoureSpAwN: That if you got it to show now, transferring files is somethin you do probably know how to do :)09:46
SpAwNi DIDNT get it to show up09:47
LynoureSpAwN: oh sorry, I'm acronym blind09:47
SpAwNLynoure, hehe09:47
Lynoureb4 looks like a typo to me, not like a word :)09:47
SpAwNLynoure, dmesg shows it connecting...but i just dont know what to mount09:48
LynoureSpAwN: So, what changes meanwhile? and what does your lsubs say when you have it plugged and on?09:48
newbie_it displays dhcpdiscover messages with different intervals (4,6,15,20,16)09:48
newbie_then it tells me "no dhcpoffers recceived. no working leases in persistent database -sleeping"09:48
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h3sp4wnLynoure: I don't think building the sid hplip - Is going to be that easy (uses -U for patch which makes it less trivial)09:48
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SpAwNroob@WeEdBuNtU:~$ lsusb09:49
SpAwNBus 005 Device 002: ID 0d49:7010 Maxtor09:49
SpAwNBus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:000009:49
SpAwNBus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:000009:49
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Lynoureh3sp4wn: doesn't have to be easy, I'll settle for doable09:49
Lynoureh3sp4wn: And if I get all too frustrated about it, I'll pack my things and move back to sid.09:50
h3sp4wnLynoure: Good idea (its not that unstable anyway)09:50
LynoureSpAwN: ah. usb things kinda should automount, if all things are well09:50
Lynoureh3sp4wn: I have been on debian unstable since... 2000, I think09:50
SpAwNwhere do they mount to /media?09:50
Lynoureh3sp4wn: Hmm, no, first I lived a year dangerously on testing :)09:51
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h3sp4wnLynoure: I went down that road once (having to update to a new version of debhelper to build something)  its just a pain09:51
Lynoureh3sp4wn: wanted to see what ubuntu was all about and found out that I'm a command line kind of girl at heart09:51
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newbie_MitchM ? still here?09:52
SpAwNLynoure, i unplugged/replugged it in...it showed up...sorry to waste your time09:52
LynoureSpAwN: yep, to /media09:52
timonatorwhat network cards can you guys recommend09:52
LynoureSpAwN: I wouldn't have offered it if I minded.09:52
SpAwNLynoure,its appreciated =D09:52
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LynoureSpAwN: When I'm feeling tired/cranky/unhelpful I just keep quiet.09:53
steveireWho knows enough about users in ubuntu to answer this? >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21435609:53
scottthats it, had enough, gonna buy an ati card this weekend :mad:09:54
scottnvidia erven09:54
scotteven09:54
Lynouresteveire: I'm not competing on undescribed urls, but prolly some other people will...09:54
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steveireLynoure: I'm not sure what you mean about an undescribed URL. I want to install AMP for one user only, and not allow that user to access internet services.09:55
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newbie_mitchm: do you have an idea how to overcome the issues?09:55
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Lynouresteveire: lots of people point to urls. They are more interesting when the general content of them has been described.09:56
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doppelgangerdamned compiz and kde...09:56
doppelgangerruining my konqueror09:56
doppelgangerer09:56
doppelgangerwait, nvm09:56
steveireah, yes. Any idea about the user rights issue?09:57
h3sp4wndoppelganger: trying to use compiz-kde ? Is it working ?09:57
doppelgangerdamned compiz-kde for not working, rather09:57
doppelgangercompiz-gnome under kubuntu works fine, but kills kon09:57
doppelgangerobviously, i guess09:57
h3sp4wnI didn't know compiz-kde worked at all09:57
doppelgangeri don't think it does09:57
doppelgangerdoesn't do sh*t for me09:57
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DeshHi, can someone tell me how I would exit from w3m in command line mode?09:58
doppelgangerif i use the compiz-gnome instead...  is there some way to install nautilus to where it is the default for opening folders and such?09:58
doppelgangereasily?09:58
doppelgangeralthought i f'ing hate nautilus09:59
doppelgangerargh, brb, phone09:59
uniqdesh: ctrl-q09:59
steveireI guess nobody knows...09:59
Deshuniq: thanks. :)09:59
uniqsteveire: nobody knows what?10:00
Deshdoppleganger: you should be able to right click a folder and select "Open With" and select nautilus and select is as the program to use all the times.10:00
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CactusWiZaRdhello everyone10:01
steveireuniq: I wan't Apache to be available to only one user, so that I'm not running a webserver while browsing10:01
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Deshdoppleganger: Or, on a right click and Properties, click the little tool icon and you can set default poggies to use.10:01
scottany idea how i can black list a driver?10:01
Lynoureuniq: I have hard time figuring out the questions... sessions are easy to switcch back and forth, unless he means something else with a session. And apache user is configurable, easy to find in just about any apach howto10:01
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Lynoures/apach/apache10:01
uniqsteveire: should the webserver be accessible for you only?10:02
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doppelgangeralright, back10:02
uniqlynoure: understand..10:02
doppelgangerDesh- gotcha, thanks10:02
doppelgangeri'm new to linux, my apologies10:02
CactusWiZaRdcan Kubuntu be installed to an computer where's win2k already?10:02
Deshdoppleganger: hope that works. :) No problem.10:02
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Deshdoppleganger: I'm pretty new too, what I know is from problems I've run into.10:03
h3sp4wnsteveire: You could install squid only allow connections through 127.0.0.1 and force people to authenticate before they go online (but you will have to read how to do it yourself I haven't the time to explain every little step)10:03
LynoureI think I'll opt for the option z, movie ,followed by sleep :)10:03
steveireSo I can find some apache config file and stop the apache server from starting before any user has logged in, then start it only if the user 'testserver' logs in?10:04
uniqdoppelganger: nothing to be apologize for, this channel is for those of us that need help sometimes :)10:04
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doppelgangerI wonder if the "system settings" panel under kubuntu is KDE specific, or kubuntu-desktop specific10:04
doppelgangeri like the way it's laid out10:04
CactusWiZaRdfuck i'm losing my nerve with this Kubuntu... ;E10:04
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doppelgangerlol, whats wrong Cactus10:04
[GuS] ?10:04
uniqcactuswizard: what's the problem?10:04
LynoureCactusWiZaRd: in short, yes it can, and usually quite easily.10:04
ShuT-idd :f10:05
gatekeeperCactusWiZaRd: yes you can dual boot, but you may need to shrink your partition to make room for linux10:05
[GuS] sometimes ignorance is the problem :P10:05
CactusWiZaRduniq & doppelganger: it throws some logical block on hdc10:05
uniqsteveire: sure, that's possible.10:05
jarowhats up with the new kernel ??? suddenly i Have to remove ehci_hcd to be able to use USB again ????10:05
uniqcactuswizard: is hdc your cd/dvd-drive?10:05
doppelganger(points at uniq)10:05
doppelgangerhehe10:05
uniq:)10:05
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CactusWiZaRduniq: umm... yes10:06
steveireand the user 'testserver' is not allowed to access any internet services?10:06
steveire!apache10:06
ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP10:06
jarowhats up with the new kernel ??? suddenly i Have to remove ehci_hcd to be able to use USB again ????10:06
CactusWiZaRdi might have to take cd drive from my older computer, 'cuz that current one sux10:06
[GuS] compiled for you guys.. wit my own Skin design for Kubuntu http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/amsn/amsn_0.96RC1-1kubuntu1_i386.deb10:07
uniqsteveire: that's harder. you can give it a useless shell, or something.10:07
CactusWiZaRdit seems like an saleproduct to me10:07
steveireI'm starting to not understand10:07
doppelgangeri've got one other problem plaguing me from having the perfect kubuntu install, but i'll wait a bit to ask10:07
doppelgangeri feel guilty =S10:07
Kr4t05doppelganger, feel free to aks.10:07
Kr4t05ask*10:08
doppelgangerit's probably insanely easy10:08
uniqthen why wait? *:)10:08
Kr4t05doppelganger, it's okay.10:08
CactusWiZaRdeven though the weird thing is, that Ubuntu installed successfully with the same drive few months ago10:08
Kr4t05doppelganger, everyone is a n00b at one point. ;)10:08
doppelgangeri have a multimedia dell keyboard that kubuntu doesn't recognize.  It recognizes the normal keys, but not the play button ones10:08
Kr4t05!keytouch10:08
doppelgangerhaving said that, i've made my own xmodmap.conf with all my spiffy settings to make it work10:09
ubotuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net10:09
uniq!mediakeys10:09
ubotuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net10:09
uniq!mediakeys-kde10:09
ubotuI know nothing about mediakeys-kde - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com10:09
doppelgangeri just need to have it start on startup, so i don't have to type xmodmap xmodmap.conf into run everytime i start my computer10:09
Lynourelastlog [GuS] 10:09
Lynoureoops10:09
CactusWiZaRd;F10:09
[GuS] O.o10:09
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gatekeeperCactusWiZaRd: have you tried badblocks on your hard disk to see if it's ok?10:09
steveireuniq: what is a useless shell?10:09
CactusWiZaRdgatekeeper: what? O_O10:10
uniqsteveire: maybe chroot the ssh account or something. so that no programs are installed and accessible.10:10
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DeshIf someone send me a link in Naim, how can I copy it and paste it into a diff login running w3m?10:10
doppelgangerkeytouch doesn't find the multimedia keys10:10
CactusWiZaRdfuck, and i already wasted a fucking DVD to it... -.-10:10
[GuS] well...10:11
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uniq!language10:11
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ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:11
TibaLI'm not native english nor fluent, can someone tell me how are named these anti-steal transparent platic boxes used to temporary pack CD, games or memory cards packages in stores please ?*10:11
doppelgangeri had to do go out and find they key mappings from some guy who had the same problem, and put them into a xmodmap.conf file10:11
[GuS] if you will "fuck" all day... for sure you will not make ytour goals..10:11
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Ademan what's the "best" java IDE? i used netbeans on windows... is there anything better for linux? or is netbeans my best bet? (its also not in the repos)10:11
doppelgangerand i load that at the run command, and my volume controls on my keyboard work10:11
doppelgangerbut i need that at startup badly10:11
TibaLAdeman: Eclipse10:11
doppelgangerer to load that xmodmap.conf10:11
Deshuniq: :( ctrl+q will not exit my w3m on a diff login.10:12
CactusWiZaRdmaybe i just have to install Ubuntu once again and update to Dapper... -.-10:12
gatekeeperCactusWiZaRd: have you tried to install dapper or breezy?10:12
h3sp4wnCactusWiZaRd: Try doing a debootstrap install of dapper (using the installing from knoppix howto)10:12
AdemanTibaL: is eclipse ready for java out of the box? or do i need another package as well?10:12
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newbie_ademan: eclipse is amazing10:13
DeshHOow does one exit out from w3m on CLI?10:13
newbie_it's my everyday ide10:13
CactusWiZaRdgatekeeper: like i just said, Ubuntu installed successfully with the same drive few months back, so it's pretty weird10:14
newbie_cvs already integrated, a bunch of plugins10:14
Ademanwhich java compiler should i use? the eclipse or gcc one? (or is there one with the java sdk)10:14
steveireNo programs? I have probably explained myself very badly as usual. I currently have a separate partition with a minimal server type install and xfce so that I can run a server for testing things and browse 127.0.0.1. I would like to be able to just do that in another session. so that I can ctrl-alt-f<number> back and forth. I don't want to be running a webserver that is accessible to the outside world. For one thing I don't think it's allowe10:14
steveireme anyway.10:14
newbie_sun sdk10:14
TibaLAdeman: you must need a java developer binaries... not the JRE (runtime) but the other one, usualy shipped with netbeans10:14
CactusWiZaRdand i have Breezy install & live pack, and Dapper is oncoming10:15
h3sp4wnI would use the ibm java with eclipse10:15
Ademanyeah, thats how i got it on windows10:15
steveireActually, maybe I just need to edit the apache config files?10:15
Ademanis it in the repos?10:15
DeshHow do I check my battery in command line?10:15
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h3sp4wnAdeman: Don't think so (not sure though)10:15
TibaLAdeman: Sun things are not10:15
gatekeeperCactusWiZaRd: a few months ago you installed breezy no problem, now you are trying to install dapper and having problems correct?10:15
steveireI seem to remember editing ports.conf before, and it not working, which is why I made a separate partition.10:16
uniqsteveire: you can restrict the webserver to 127.0.0.1 only.10:16
CactusWiZaRdgatekeeper: i mean Ubuntu Breezy, not Kubuntu Breezy, this is the first time i downloaded Kubuntu10:16
bam_Desh, try 'cat /proc/something'10:16
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Ademank thanks, but i found a few packages sun-java5-bin and a few others10:17
uniqdesh: or 'acpi -V'10:17
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bam_hehe10:17
bam_yup thats it10:18
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h3sp4wnAdeman: sudo aptitude install sun-java5-bin (don't do it from adept or you won't be able to accept the licence)10:18
Zooliehi,i just downloaded kubuntu-desktop package for my ubuntu and the boot splash screen was modded to kubuntu version but i want to use the old ubuntu version,any help?10:18
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Ademank10:18
Ademanthanks10:18
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h3sp4wnAdeman: then sudo update-alternatives --config java (and select the sun java)10:18
steveireMaybe I'll try it again tomorrow.10:18
Ademani'm switching to land line cause i'm wireless right now10:18
uniqsteveire: in /etc/apache2/ports.conf: Listen 81.26.52.3:8010:18
frazrasmy sound isnt working since the dapper dist upgrade, where do I start???10:18
gatekeeperCactusWiZaRd: this could be a hardware problem, I had a bad maxtor hdd would not install dapper, but I could get it to install breezy, then do an upgrade to dapper. Replaced the drive with a seagate, and dapper installed without any fuss, hence I suggested you test your hdd with badblocks10:19
uniqsteveire: ehm.. where that ip is set to 127.0.0.1:80 of course.. and not my servers IP.10:19
steveireYes. but that caused strange behavoiur last time I tried it. I'll see tomorrow.10:19
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uniqsteveire: what strange behaviour?10:19
steveireIt just didn't work like that. I'm tired. I'll be specific if it doesn't work tomorrow.10:20
Zoolieanyone?10:20
gatekeeperfrazras: system settings -> sound would be a good start10:21
uniqsteveire: ok, it works like that, in apache2, i know, i run a few apache servers.10:21
uniqzoolie: yes, what is your problem?10:21
CactusWiZaRdgatekeeper: well, i thought i'd just test Kubuntu, and decide which is better, Ubuntu or Kubuntu10:22
Zooliehi uniq,i'am ubuntu01? you remember? i think you not,nevermind....i just downloaded kubuntu-desktop package for my ubuntu and the boot splash screen was modded to kubuntu version but i want to use the old ubuntu version,any help?10:22
frazrasgatekeeper: that does not exist in kde10:23
uniqzoolie: hello again, remove the package kubuntu-artwork-usplash.10:23
CactusWiZaRdbut it's not important10:23
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gatekeeperCactusWiZaRd: they are siblings the only difference in the window manager, you can install KDE onto ubuntu gnome and decide which Window Mnager you want at start up10:23
uniqzoolie: it will tell you that kubuntu-desktop is also removed, but that's ok.10:23
h3sp4wn!ebuntu10:24
ubotuI know nothing about ebuntu - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com10:24
Zoolieok....10:24
BlankB!edubuntu10:24
ubotuEdubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org10:24
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gatekeeperfrazras: does on mine K -> System Setting then in the top personal section 'sound and multi media'10:25
doppelgangerwaaahaaa10:25
gatekeeperSystem Setings ooops10:25
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doppelgangerfound my answer10:25
doppelgangerto the vnc thing..10:25
Zoolieuniq: if i check it for uninstall it will mark the kubuntu desktop for uninstall also,is this right?10:25
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h3sp4wnBlankB: I want the enlightenment DR-17 based derivative10:26
BlankBh3sp4wn: dunno that.10:26
doppelgangerdidn't know about the Autostart directory, i can put krfb command in there and have it run at startup =)10:26
doppelganger*does the carolton dance*10:26
gatekeeperbrb10:27
Zoolieuniq: if i check it for uninstall it will mark the kubuntu desktop for uninstall also,is this right?10:27
uniqzoolie: that is correct. But removing kubuntu-desktop won't remove anything except the meta-package (which is basically a file telling kubuntu to install a list of programs. the programs will remain on your system)10:29
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steveireuniq: If i do that apache configuration trick, how would I be able to test if it is solid or not? Just ask someone to nav to the IP?10:30
uniqsteveire: yes.10:30
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grizzlyenlightenment is mind-blowingly cool! why isn't it default or something?10:32
Zoolieok,but if i remove this item my kde program will work after this?or i need to install kde again?10:33
uniqgrizzly: because it is not very productive.. to me anyway :)10:33
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uniqzoolie: everything will work. you just remove the kubuntu boot splash10:33
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arseniqwhatever i tried i couldnt make apache to follow symlinks10:34
Zoolieand any ohter solution? i tried to search for ubuntu-artwork-usplash to install but nothing founded.10:34
h3sp4wngrizzly: dr17 is still pre-alpha (but highly productive for me)10:34
uniqarseniq: did you try the FollowSymlinks option?10:34
doppelganger!enlightenment10:34
ubotuEnlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.10:34
arseniquniq: ofcourse10:34
doppelgangerhmm10:34
diezarehello guys, i was trying to get the gcc compiler by writting sudo apt-get install gcc-4.0-base but it gives me the following "10:34
diezareReading package lists... Done10:34
diezareBuilding dependency tree... Done10:34
diezaregcc-4.0-base is already the newest version.10:34
diezare0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.10:34
uniqzoolie: that's the default.. xubuntu and kubuntu have their own packages..10:34
diezareeventhough it's not installed, can anyone help?10:34
h3sp4wndiezare: sudo apt-get install build-essential10:34
uniqdiezare: install the 'build-essential' package.10:34
uniqarseniq: how doesn't it work?10:35
Bazzidiezare: you might want to have the build-essential package?10:35
Bazzioh, too late :-)10:35
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arseniquniq: i can send you the httpd.conf file if you want10:35
Zoolieok....and if i want some custom  splash screen is this possible?10:35
arseniqalso i am restarting the apache after making changes on conf file10:36
diezareapt-get install build-essential   it gives me the following "10:36
diezareReading package lists... Done10:36
diezareBuilding dependency tree... Done10:36
diezareE: Couldn't find package build-essential10:36
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uniqarseniq: you can paste the section to pastebin.ca10:37
uniqzoolie: probably. Don't know.10:37
diezarei used the ubuntu before i had no problems, but i started to find these problems when i tried with the kubuntu. can anyone help?10:37
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diezarei also tried apt-cache search build-essentail but i didn't find any results10:38
arseniquniq: #pastebin.ca is this the exact name of channel?10:38
diezaredoes it has anything to do with my sources.list?10:38
uniqarseniq: i meant website.. http://pastebin.ca10:38
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uniqdiezare: probably.10:39
uniq!repo10:39
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource10:39
BlankBdiezare: first see topic and do not paste into channel. second it soulds like your sources.list is not good.10:39
BlankB!sources10:39
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource10:39
BlankB!sources.list10:39
diezareok, thnx guys.10:39
Zoolieok,thx anyway.i give a search on google for it....and a last question: i formatted my ntfs to ext3 but i need to add(with gparted find a mount place and activate it) it after every reboot,is there anyway to make it mounted stable?10:39
uniqzoolie: yes, put a line in /etc/fstab10:40
arseniquniq: http://pastebin.ca/8639610:40
BlankB!repositories10:40
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource10:40
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uniqarseniq: and what happens if you go to a symlink in a webbrowser?10:42
arseniquniq: 403 forbidden10:42
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Zoolieok,i make this...thx uniq...i love you :D10:43
arseniquniq: by the way /home/www belongs to apache...10:43
eXCeSScan someone send me an internets10:43
arseniquniq: and i can view the files on /home/www successfully10:44
uniqarseniq: does apache have read access to the directory you have symlinked to?10:44
crazy_penguinnight to all! :)10:44
arseniquniq: oh does it need to? ok i am trying it just now10:45
JoeCoderAny way I can make kubuntu auto-connect to the best available wireless access point w/o having to use wireless assistant as root every time?10:45
arseniquniq: by the way the source of the symlink is a directory on my ntfs partition does it matters?10:45
uniqarseniq: it needs read access to list the files in a directory, and it needs execute permissons on directories to be able to enter them.10:45
ricardo_same problem as joecoder here with newest kernel10:46
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ricardo_(have to use 2.16.15)10:46
Zooliei just realized that in fstab i have only my cd-rom,my dvd isnt there....10:46
Zoolie:S10:46
JoeCoderI'm on 2.16.15 now10:46
ricardo_2.6.15-23 works fine for me10:46
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uniqarseniq: it all depends on permissions.. if www-data can read stuff from the ntfs-disk it doesn't matter what filesystem the files are on.10:47
ricardo_the problem appears with 24 and after...10:47
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ricardo_with kernel 24 it doesnt even detect my pcmcia wireless card10:47
uniqzoolie: everything you want to automount must not be in /etc/fstab, just for your infomation.10:47
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doppelgangerMother..10:50
doppelgangertell your children not to walk my way..10:50
doppelganger(sorry)10:50
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Zooliethx10:51
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JoeCoderricardo_: Mine is installed properly and works, I just have to run the wireless Assistant tool after every reboot10:52
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arseniquniq: "kdesu konqueror" sais "i cant change the permisions" i think this is about ntfs right?10:52
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uniqarseniq: probably. ntfs is not very compatible with linux in any way.10:52
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uniqarseniq: i have to go eat now.. and sleep later, good luck with your project. :)10:52
arseniquniq: ok thanks a lot for your help10:53
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JoeCoderarseniq: There's a tool you can get to replace the standard ntfs driver with one that supports write access, but it was flaky and slow when I tried it last fall.10:53
JoeCoderarseniq: I wish I remembered the name of it.10:53
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arseniqJoeCoder: hmm some tool like it could be helpful though10:54
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uniqjoecoder: captive-ntfs ?10:55
h3sp4wncaptive-ntfs but don't cry if you lose all your data10:55
uniqnow i'm leaving.. :)10:55
arseniqoh i cant take that risk10:55
JoeCoderarseniq: If MS would release the spec to ntfs we'd all be writing to it, but as it is it's taking forever to figure it out. You can however get an ext driver for windows that will let you write to ext partitions. I've been using it for a while with no problems at all.10:55
JoeCoderyeah, it was captive ntfs10:55
unix_infidelhey guys, anyone know of a 3rd party repo that contains the postgresql 8.1 debs?10:55
gatekeeperJoeCoder: must be an updated version as Xandos reckon you van now write to ntfs10:55
gatekeepercan now write to ntfs even ooops10:56
arseniqJoeCoder: windows can see ext partitions?10:56
JoeCodergatekeeper: stable enough to be installed by default? interesing.10:56
JoeCoderarseniq: You can get a driver to allow read and write to ext on windows. Mound your linux drive as whatever letter you want. Works great for me.10:56
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JoeCoderarseniq: Again, I wish I remembered the name, but a quick search should be able to find it.10:57
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gatekeeperJoeCoder: all I can suggest is you have a look on their web site10:57
arseniqJoeCoder: ok thanks10:57
angasuleshiny! the shipit CD finally arrived10:57
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unix_infidelanyone for the postgresql question?10:58
RawSewagehow do you unignore someone in Konversation10:59
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JoeCoderarseniq: I found extifs, but it looks like that's only read-only driver. If I was booted into windows I could just look in control panel.10:59
JoeCoderarseniq: and tell you the name of it.10:59
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arseniqJoeCoder: thanks anyway i can find something on this idea on google i think :)11:01
JoeCoderunix_infedel: sorry, don't know much about repositories.  Enabled the universe and multiverse?  Tried finding a manual install?11:01
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RawSewageHow do I see my ignore list in Konversation11:01
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ranunculoidIf I cant be root in kubuntu, how do I edit my apt sources file?11:01
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danlare there any packages similiar to automatix for application development, to get all the libs, automake, gcc and such you need?11:01
JoeCoderranunculoid: sudo vim /etc/path/to/source11:01
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JoeCoderranunculoid type sudo before every command you need to run as root.  Sudo will ask for your password the first time and remember it until the session expires.11:02
doppelgangerdanl- easy ubuntu11:02
ranunculoidIs there no way of doing it outside of terminal JoeCoder?11:02
hugelmopfdanl: you could start by installing the package build-essential, that covers quite a bit of application development stuff.11:02
gatekeeperranunculoid: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:03
doppelgangerdunno if that's what you're asking, but look that up11:03
ranunculoidAh - that'll do11:03
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JoeCoderranunculoid: KDEmenu -> System -> adept11:03
ranunculoidThank's JoeCoder11:03
gatekeeperranunculoid: yes there is11:03
danlthanks hugelmopf11:03
JoeCoderranunculoid: then go to Adpet -> Manage repositories11:04
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gatekeeperk -> run command kdesu gedit (or what ever edit you are using)11:04
hugelmopfdanl: but automake for example is not included. you have to install the package automake1.9 for that (and autoconf probably as well)11:04
ranunculoidRight, I can manage from here, I just installed kubuntu today. Kubuntu >> MEPIS :-D11:04
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JoeCoderAnyone in here have much luck with GLX?  I've got it working but it's buggy and not worth using.11:05
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muslimhello11:06
AyidenI am having alot of trouble installing kubuntu on my laptop11:06
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muslimi have aproblem11:06
hugelmopfdanl: and libtool probably. which language and which framework do you want to develop in?11:06
danlc/c++11:07
JoeCoderAyiden: go on11:07
muslimits about getting application11:07
danlim primarily a java programmer attempting to learn c/c++11:07
__osh___muslim: ask away.11:07
gatekeepermuslim: installing ?11:07
danlso i dunno that much about frameworks and such11:07
muslimany application from apt-get11:07
muslimno11:07
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muslimor kaoackage11:07
muslimkpackage11:08
ranunculoidHmmm.. I'm trying to upgrade Amarok to 1.4.x in 6.06 but it wont let me. It gives an error telling me that upgrading will break another package but it doesn't say which one... What should I do guys?11:08
__osh___muslim: why not use adept?11:08
__osh___muslim: but more to the point, what's the problem?11:08
muslimits not working either11:08
__osh___muslim: is your /etc/apt/sources.list ok?11:09
muslimall these have no access to internet11:09
muslimyes11:09
hugelmopfdanl: for pure C/C++ the build-essential, automake1.9 and libtool should be enough. if you want for example to use Qt to develop graphical apps, you'll also need it's development package, i.e. libqt3-mt-dev11:09
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DaSkreechI'm getting superblock errors on botoup11:09
muslimthey even cant get update list11:10
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DaSkreechWhen I try to run reiserfsck it warns me not to11:10
HawkwindCan someone tell me a command that I can use to find out what package a certain file is in.  For example, I want to find the package that Xdamage.h  belongs to but don't know how11:10
danlhugelmopf: thanks for your help, would GTK be useful for graphical applications?11:10
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muslimit worked only once11:11
jpatrickHawkwind: dpkg -S fileName11:11
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muslimthen after update it stopped connecting11:11
Hawkwindjpatrick: Wouldn't that be if Xdamage.h was installed on my system ?11:11
__osh___muslim: are you behind a proxy or something like that?11:11
muslimany idea?11:11
muslimno11:11
Hawkwindjpatrick: I need to find the package it is in so I can install that package11:11
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hugelmopfdanl: yes, GTK is a graphical toolkit, just like Qt, but as far as i know, GTK is C, while Qt is C++, and most people prefer Qt.11:12
muslimi have DSL connection11:12
nikosapiIs there a way to force a re-install of a package with apt?11:12
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muslim256 kb11:12
__osh___muslim: What's the error if you do a "sudo aptitude update"?11:12
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muslimi.ll try11:12
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jpatrickHawkwind: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=Xdamage.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=dapper&arch=i38611:12
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erovwhat about qeradiant? :|11:13
muslimit stops on 0%11:13
danlhugelmopf: thanks again, im off to google and learn about QT... I appreciate the help11:13
JoeCoderAny way I can get the blinking network lights on my sys-tray that I loved so much in windows11:13
muslimwithout any progress11:13
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morrison"Bye"11:14
__osh___muslim: use pastebin and post your sources.list there. Perhaps you'll need to use some other sources because yours are "offline" for some reason?11:14
JoeCoderdanl: You might look at wxWidgets also11:14
hugelmopfdanl: in case you don't know, KDE is based on Qt, while Gnome is based on GTK, so that's probably another thing to consider in the decision. you would probably want to start here for Qt: http://www.trolltech.com/products/qt11:14
JoeCoderdanl: I think it's got a friendlier license for commercial projects, but my info could be out of date or downright wrong.11:14
menno_does anybody know how i can reset konqueror to it's original settings?11:15
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JoeCodermenno_: I had the same problem11:15
JoeCodermenno_: did you follow that guide in the kubuntu faq?11:15
Hawkwindjpatrick: Nothing I can do from CLI to find out the info I want ??11:15
DaSkreechI'm getting superblock errors on startup11:15
DaSkreechAnyone have any clue why I'd be getting that?11:16
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jpatrickHawkwind: not that I know of11:16
menno_JoeCoder: well no and right now i aplogise and will look into them. Sorry i spoke too soon11:16
hugelmopfJoeCoder, danl: Qt is available under the GPL, so as long as your project is not distributed closed source, there is no license problem.11:16
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JoeCodermenno_: don't follow the guide in the kubuntu faq, that's what messed it up for me.11:16
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menno_JoeCoder: oh well then i'm glad i asked11:17
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JoeCodermenno_: or rather, if you do follow that guide, first backup the files you're overwriting.11:17
jeeklWhat package provides libGL.so.1? It's gone missing on my system and, for example, amarok wont start without it.11:17
gatekeeperHawkwind: libxdamage-dev ?11:17
bur[n] erwhat happens when you apt-get install amarok ?  doesn't it find hte depend?11:18
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muslimwhat is the link to pastepin11:18
bur[n] erwww.pastebin.com11:18
morrisona saperlo l'inglese!!!!!!11:18
crimsunjeekl: normally libgl1-mesa unless you use the proprietary Nvidia or ATI drivers11:18
JoeCoderAny good free games for linux beyond chromium and tux-racer?11:18
menno_JoeCoder: i see. did you manage to get your old konqueror back?11:18
scottenemy territory11:18
DaSkreechJoeCoder: What are you interested in?11:18
JoeCodermenno_: I was on a day-old install, so I just reinstalled again.11:19
TarusI am having trouble using the kubuntu install dvd. I am getting this error on my compaq v2000. 4294671.220000 .. MP-Bios bug 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC11:19
DaSkreechmorrison: Sorry what?11:19
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frazrasJoeCoder: http://entertainment.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/07/06/041422411:19
jeeklcrimsun: I had the proprietory ATI-drivers installed before, but uninstalled them, since I don't really need them and they were giving e problems.11:19
TarusI get the same error on a friends dell11:20
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jeeklIDo I need to reconfigure some package now that the ATI-drivers are gone?11:20
DaSkreech!tell JoeCoder  about games11:20
TarusI did not get this error prior to the cd before the final release11:20
menno_JoeCoder: thanks for you remarks!11:20
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ranunculoidI'm having trouble upgrading amarok, http://pastebin.ca/86428 <-- Any ideas guys??11:21
TarusAnyone have any posible solutions?11:21
TarusThe screen goes blank after that and I hard reboot11:22
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TarusIs this a common bug at all?11:22
JoeCodermenno_: I can send you any files you might need. But first: are you trying to get back to the original settings from where you messed it up, or was it not right when you first installed it?11:22
scott!tell11:23
ubotuI know nothing about tell - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com11:23
JoeCoderTaurus:  I don't know about the error message, but I had troulbe similar to that until I started burning my ISO's at lower speeds.11:23
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TarusIt couldnt be a burning problem ... could it???11:24
JoeCoderranunculoid: This probably isn't it, but do you have the restricted repositories enabled?11:24
ranunculoidNo,  I have the default settings11:24
TarusI had this problem with this latest release the test cd before the release but the cd b4 that ran fine on my laptop11:25
morrisoni am italian boy11:25
morrisonbut i don't speak english11:25
gatekeeperranunculoid: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories11:25
jeeklcrimsun: No ideas to what I need to do to get libgl1-mesa provide the file instead of fglrx11:25
TarusI think I will try redownloading and burning again on a differnt bruner and different settings but this doesnt sound like it would be releated to that...11:26
ranunculoidJust installed today. Did an apt-get upgrade straight after installing though JoeCoder. gatekeeper - thanks but i nknow how to do that now;-)11:26
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gnomefreakmorrison: #kubuntu-it is for help with kubuntu in italian11:26
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JoeCoderTarus: I had that problem when installing mandriva. Burned at a lower speed and it suddenly worked. Even before, the CD's could still be read just fine from windows but refused to boot properly. Weird, eh?11:26
gatekeeperranunculoid: ok didn't think you had them all enabled :-)11:27
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ranunculoidgatekeeper: do I have to take away the'#'s from all the extra repos?11:27
gatekeeperranunculoid: which package are you after?11:27
ranunculoidAmarok11:27
ranunculoid1.4.x11:27
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JoeCoderTaurus:  mine was a weird error message that had nothing to do with being able to read the CD also.11:28
JoeCoderranunculoid: If you update via editing your sources.list make sure you run apt-get update after you make the changes.11:28
D4m4gehi11:28
D4m4gedoes anyone now a graphical ftp server for linux please?11:28
gatekeeperranunculoid: yes but if you copy /paste as per those instructoions all the repos will be enabled11:28
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D4m4gei am lost with all the console like servers11:28
muslimsorry i couldn't use pastepin11:28
bur[n] erD4m4ge: there are guis for a few of them... pure-ftpd has a gui!11:28
ranunculoidgatekeeper: ok, I'll do that then try again11:29
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bbwHi all11:29
bbwsomeone now how to enable a kde theme11:29
gatekeeperranunculoid: as JoeCoder says you need to do apt-get update11:29
muslimi tried but it says loading for too long11:29
D4m4gethanbks bur[n] er11:30
muslimwithout any progress11:30
JoeCoderAnyone know how to get a blinking lights network activity app in my system tray?11:30
ranunculoidgatekeeper: That was the first thing I did when I installed kubuntu11:30
ranunculoidoh, sorry11:30
erovJoeCoder: what type of connection?11:31
muslimJoeCoder me too11:31
JoeCoderwireless11:31
DaSkreechWhy would I get a superblock error upon reinstall?11:31
erovok.. KWiFiManager11:31
menno_JoeCoder: i followed the FAQ and indeed, it doesn't work11:31
erovit will go into your tray11:31
muslimfor me its a lan11:31
erovor at least has the option to do so.. dont know about lan11:31
menno_JoeCoder: nothing changed11:31
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JoeCodermenno_: What exactly is wrong with konqueror? After I followed that guide, my address bar, view profiles, and several other things were missing. They were there by default with a fresh install of kubuntu dapper 6.0611:32
muslimAnyone know how to get a blinking lights network activity app in my system tray with lan connection11:32
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JoeCodererov: thanks11:32
bbwsomeone now how to enable / install  kde theme downloaded from kde-look.org but there is no installation manual, i can only change icon theme in my system11:33
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mcrandellobbw: try the theme manager located in "kcontrol"11:34
tomiHi, is there any way to get window transparency and drop shadow work with ATI display driver?11:35
JoeCoderI think I'm a tweak-a-holic11:35
ranunculoidHow do I download the new package lists once I edit my sources.list file?11:35
menno_JoeCoder: i installed a theme but View>detailed list view doesn't work anymore. I see big icons and no matter what i change under View, it stays the same -  only text view does what it says11:35
centyxtomi: yea, but direct rendering will be disabled and it will run pretty slow11:36
bbwkcontrol there is no theme manager11:36
JoeCodermenno_: what about View->Icon size? Also, what if you try to load a previously saved view profile?11:37
ranunculoidYES! it's working :-D11:37
mcrandellobbw: it's not located under "Appearance & Themes"?11:37
erovmuslim: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27103 read that too for lan one11:37
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gatekeeperranunculoid: dpkg -l (warning not dpkg -i)11:37
erovhttp://knetstats.sourceforge.net/ that looks cool too, dont know if it's in the repositories11:38
bbwmcrandello , it worked , i typt in command kcontrol , thanks11:38
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tomicetyx: yep, I've noticed. actually it will mess up my desktop pretty bad :/ I tought that there is some way to fix it but I guess there isn't then11:38
JoeCoderranunculoid: sudo apt-get update11:38
mcrandellobbw: np :)11:38
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JoeCoderHow can I adjust my clock to no longer be military time?  I'm already in the Accessibility time and dates page.11:38
JoeCodernevermind11:38
ranunculoidgatekeeper: thanks, I did it in the gui package manager instead but i'll remember that one for future reference. It's working now:-)11:38
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erovJoeCoder: right click the clock it self11:38
erovDate & Time format11:39
erovfrom the menu that comes up11:39
gatekeeperranunculoid: excellent :-)11:39
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muslimany idea about my apt-get problem11:39
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JoeCodererov: I don't have Date & Time format on that page, but I found it elsewhere.11:40
erovthen go to the Time&Dates tab.. then go to the format.. select from the list the second one.. with the p infront of the format and only one H11:40
erovi didnt say on that page11:40
osh_muslim: have you tried using other sources?11:40
menno_JoeCoder: that's it. first time i see this function. That's more to my liking:)11:40
erovi said.. on the clock of your taskbar down to the bottom11:40
D4m4geuh, I cannot find the front-end for pure-ftpd, how is it called?11:40
JoeCodermenno_: So it was the icon size?11:40
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gatekeepermuslim: you are using the correct repos?11:40
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menno_JoeCoder: yes.11:41
menno_JoeCoder: my eyes don't hurt anymore, thank you11:41
JoeCodermenno_: know much about samba?11:42
muslimyes i tried another sources11:42
muslimyes11:42
erovmuslim: what does /etc/apt/sources.list look like? if you dont think it looks just right.. back it up and try http://erov.ath.cx/sources.list to replace it with.. less confusion .. its what i have and works, currently11:42
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menno_JoeCoder: not yet i'm afraid. i'm still in the learning stage...11:43
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eroveven I mucked about with it and messed my original up royally.. that's 100%11:43
JoeCodermenno_: Me too. Was hoping there might be something you could help me with. Don't suppose you know anything about glx either?11:43
angasuleshipit has nice packaging, but I'm a bit surprised it's not waterproof :?11:43
menno_JoeCoder: well just don't eat too much of it:) no, sorry11:44
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muslimok i'll try11:45
gatekeeperJoeCoder: what do you want to do with samba?11:46
angasuleand what about glx?11:46
erovthen when you restart adept or whatever.. fetch updates11:46
JoeCoderjust connect to a windows computer I have on my local network.11:46
erovto refresh the list of packages11:46
JoeCoderangasule: I have created a script to let me choose glx as an option from kdm, but it fails there. But if I load regular gde and then run the kde-glx script it works, but with a few bugs.11:47
gatekeeperJoeCoder: you only need to install samba if you want the windows pc to connect to linux otherwise just use konqueror11:47
JoeCoderagasule:  *load regular kde11:47
JoeCodergatekeeper: smb://win-box-name ?11:47
ranunculoidWhat's a quick terminal command to get the version of a program?11:47
JoeCodergatekeeper: ok, cool it worked11:48
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gatekeeperJoeCoder: yes I think so11:48
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JoeCodergatekeeper: It didn't before and I assumed it was still broken. How can I access those drives from the command line? mount them?11:48
jbirdAngelhello, i have ubuntu, but im wanting to uninstall it and grub and have it set so that my comp boots right into windows again, how do i do that?11:48
gatekeeperJoeCoder: konqueor seems to have a samba client built-in11:48
angasulehmm, JoeCoder, you're talking about Xgl, aren't you?11:48
erovyes samba is builtin to konq.. at the command line use smbmount or smbclient though konqueror works just fine11:49
JoeCoderangasule: I suppose Xgl is the opengl extension for X and xgl is the linux opengl programming library?11:49
gatekeeperJoeCoder: possible not sure if you need samba installed for that11:49
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gatekeeperJoeCoder: erov says you are in luck :-)11:50
grizzlyAnybody using enlightenment?11:50
muslimnow i am sure its not repos problem11:50
h3sp4wngrizzly: I am using dr-1711:50
angasuleXgl is an X server that uses opengl for all kinds of funky stuff, glx is an X library to use opengl11:50
erovmuslim what exactly is it doing11:50
JoeCodergatekeeper, erov, I'll read the smbclient docs11:50
muslimit should be aconnectoin problem11:50
gatekeepergrizzly: tried it using OliveCD and was impressed11:51
gatekeeperJoeCoder: there is a easy / cheat way11:51
h3sp4wngrizzly: google for easy_e17.sh (it installs it to /opt - makes sure you have 1.03 - or you won't get all the modules)11:51
angasuleJoeCoder: from what I'm reading, currently Xgl only works on top of another X server11:51
h3sp4wnangasule: No xgl is its own xserver - aiglx runs ontop of xorg11:51
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gatekeeperJoeCoder: if you want windows to see a linux share, install samba then use system settings -> sharing11:52
angasulewell, in any case, I'd go ask at #Xgl or something11:52
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JoeCoderangasule: cool, it looks like #xgl is quite a busy place.11:53
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muslimit says 0% [Connecting to kubuntu.org (1.0.0.0)]  [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com11:53
JoeCodergatekeeper: I won't need windows to see linux, just vice versa and I already can.11:53
erov1.0.0.0 ??11:54
erovyeah thats some network config problems.. just don't know what11:54
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gatekeeperJoeCoder: cool :-)11:54
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JoeCoderwell I'm out.  Thanks for all the help.11:55
gatekeeperJoeCoder: see ya soon... :-)11:56
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gatekeeperwon't be far behind it's getting late11:56
jimmy__Jimmy- In da house!11:56
jbirdAngelhello, i have ubuntu, but im wanting to uninstall it and grub and have it set so that my comp boots right into windows again, how do i do that?11:57
Harmentaldo you know how to make this window (Konversation) transparent?11:58
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jimmy__I just know how to put your own pic as background12:02
Harmentalmight help?12:03
h3sp4wnjbirdAngel: Try ##windows12:03
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jimmy__settings12:03
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jimmy__then konfigure konversation12:03
HarmentalI somehow managed to do that with the terminal window but I dont recall how :o\12:03
jimmy__same here, but konversation is a little different12:04
Harmentalit is an X window it should behave the same...dont they??12:05
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jimmy__seems like it, but I have never even seen an option for transparency12:05
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Harmentali know it is possible........darn!!!12:06
jimmy__lol12:06
h3sp4wnjbirdAngel: They will tell you about using fixmbr fixboot etc from the windows xp recovery console but I am not interested in windows related problems12:06
gemidjydamn kubuntu12:06
gemidjyif it works it is great, but if not...damn nervouse12:06
Lynouregemidjy: hmm12:06
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gemidjyLynoure: aha12:07
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jimmy__you kiss your momma with that mouth?12:07
jimmy__:)12:08
Harmentalgotta go12:08

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