| troy_s | kwwii, you in brother? | 12:09 |
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| kwwii | hey man, wassup? | 12:09 |
| kwwii | I am still hanging on | 12:10 |
| troy_s | good... night soon for you? | 12:10 |
| troy_s | sleepy time? | 12:10 |
| kwwii | eventually | 12:10 |
| kwwii | I have had a plague of emails in the last two days | 12:10 |
| troy_s | well that's good news i guess! | 12:11 |
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| kwwii | "No gnus is good gnus" | 12:17 |
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| kwwii | night all | 02:17 |
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| Madpilot | anyone know where/if the Dapper 'Circle of Friends' photo is available? It's not on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official, and I could have sworn it was... | 06:07 |
| Madpilot | never mind, it's on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing | 06:08 |
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| kwwii | moin | 12:52 |
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| jenda | Hello | 02:46 |
| jenda | Is there a way to find the author of http://art.ubuntu.com/backgrounds/ubuntu/54 ? | 02:48 |
| jenda | nvm found him. | 02:56 |
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| troy_s | yeah its tristian | 05:10 |
| troy_s | from gnome-look | 05:10 |
| jenda | got him. mailed him. | 05:15 |
| jenda | http://su.mindspin-cms-hosting.de/Mockup.png | 05:15 |
| troy_s | i like his look as well... are you trying a marketing mock up? | 05:19 |
| jenda | yes - for the spreadubuntu site | 05:24 |
| jenda | I made the above based on his work | 05:24 |
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| newz2000 | What do you guys do when you create a work that includes a font the client doesn't have? | 05:34 |
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| fowlduck | what do you guys use in general to make the ubuntu artwork? Is there something especially good for making the logo? | 05:41 |
| jenda | There's inkscape and the GIMP, if that's what you mean... | 05:42 |
| jenda | but I'm only a guest here ;) | 05:42 |
| fowlduck | ok | 05:42 |
| newz2000 | We love svg, and inkscape is a steller tool for creating svg. | 05:43 |
| newz2000 | The next two big tools are GIMP and PhotoShop. Some here use Illustrator too. | 05:44 |
| jenda | But don't forget Adobe Illustrator is evil ;) | 05:44 |
| fowlduck | oh cool, I was wondering how to manipulate svg | 05:44 |
| jenda | fowlduck: there's the gimp-svg plugin, but I think there's a dependency problem there | 05:45 |
| fowlduck | yeah, i'll just give inkscape a try | 05:45 |
| jenda | Inkscape is incredible. I had no trouble working in it even though I've never done anything of the sort before, and yet it can do near anything. | 05:45 |
| fowlduck | i'm trying to make a new version of ubuntu...eventually here....but I'm graphically challenged | 05:46 |
| newz2000 | Fowlduck, the latest version in Dapper is 0.43, but there's a new version just released that is so nice. | 05:46 |
| fowlduck | and I need a background and some icons by thursday. I have a friend workin on it but it looks...... | 05:46 |
| newz2000 | I just upgraded last night | 05:46 |
| fowlduck | newz2000: I use SuSE for my desktop, Ubuntu for server | 05:47 |
| fowlduck | newz2000: i wonder how it is in this one | 05:47 |
| newz2000 | I'll bet you can get it. Its worth the work. | 05:47 |
| fowlduck | 0.43-20 | 05:48 |
| newz2000 | I did a whole project Friday and yesterday in 0.43, then I upgraded last night and almost cried when I saw how much easier some stuff was. | 05:49 |
| jenda | newz2000: is there a howto somewhere, to upgrade to 0.44? | 05:49 |
| fowlduck | nice | 05:49 |
| jenda | (and a changelog?) | 05:49 |
| fowlduck | newz2000: how are the deps? the same? | 05:49 |
| newz2000 | folwduck: I don't know, I just downloaded a deb from the forums and it worked. So must be OK. | 05:50 |
| newz2000 | Here's a link, | 05:50 |
| newz2000 | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202916&highlight=inkscape | 05:50 |
| fowlduck | cool, i'll make it an rpm using alien | 05:50 |
| newz2000 | There may be a version out there already | 05:51 |
| newz2000 | (Alien never treated me right) | 05:51 |
| jenda | BTW, newz2000, welcome to the Marketing Team ;) | 05:52 |
| newz2000 | am I on it? | 05:52 |
| newz2000 | :-D Cool | 05:52 |
| jenda | Ah, no, you aren't ;) But you made an appearance on the list ;) | 05:53 |
| newz2000 | Yeah, I pop on and off | 05:53 |
| fowlduck | newz2000: alien hasn't let me down so far | 05:53 |
| jenda | newz2000: in that case, make that _you_are_ welcome to the Marketing Team :-D | 05:54 |
| newz2000 | I was starting to get overwhelmed with communication, so I've backed out of almost every channel. | 05:54 |
| newz2000 | So I'm redesigning bzr website | 05:55 |
| newz2000 | I found a cool font for the logo, but its non-free. | 05:55 |
| newz2000 | What do you guys usually do when you have a font and your 'client' doesn't? | 05:55 |
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| newz2000 | Or alternately, is there a good source for free (as in OSS) fonts? | 05:56 |
| newz2000 | jenda: start with specs | 05:56 |
| jenda | I wouldn't know... I stick to free stuff, and I'm only here because I needed something from these guys. | 05:56 |
| newz2000 | Do you have a team set up on launchpad? | 05:57 |
| jenda | The Marketing Team - over 43 active members ;) | 05:57 |
| jenda | (over = there are about 60 recently deactivated ones) | 05:57 |
| newz2000 | I'd start by creating specs for the stuff you want to get done. Its kind of like a detailed todo list. | 05:58 |
| newz2000 | Then you can priortize and delegate the items. | 05:58 |
| jenda | Indeed. Create them in the wiki or on LP? | 05:58 |
| jenda | Lp. | 05:58 |
| newz2000 | They two are linked. LP is just an overview, there's a place to link to a wiki page. | 05:58 |
| jenda | ah :) | 05:59 |
| newz2000 | I've just started that for my stuff today | 05:59 |
| newz2000 | https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-website for an example | 06:00 |
| newz2000 | Click on specs | 06:00 |
| newz2000 | s/specs/specificatoins/ | 06:00 |
| jenda | Hmm... what I have is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/SpreadUbuntu | 06:01 |
| jenda | It's not created from the spec template though. I get what you mean. I'll have a look at that. | 06:01 |
| jenda | It won't be code we'll be bazaaring there. | 06:01 |
| newz2000 | Since I'm a one-man team at the moment I'm using my for a glorified todo list. That way I can just direct people there when they want to report or request something | 06:02 |
| jenda | Alright, I'm beginning to get it ;) | 06:03 |
| jenda | newz2000: Do I first register a product? | 06:07 |
| newz2000 | Hmm... good question | 06:07 |
| newz2000 | Let me look | 06:07 |
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| fowlduck | yay, .44 installed | 06:07 |
| fowlduck | the .package file is nice | 06:08 |
| newz2000 | Yes, I guess so | 06:08 |
| fowlduck | we need more of that | 06:08 |
| newz2000 | fowlduck, congrats | 06:08 |
| fowlduck | danke | 06:08 |
| newz2000 | jenda, you're right I think you do need a product | 06:08 |
| jenda | OK, doing that now. | 06:08 |
| jenda | thanks | 06:09 |
| jenda | oooh! 0.44 looks soo good :) | 06:19 |
| jenda | Absolute rockage there... | 06:23 |
| newz2000 | I've noticed you can click a color from the pallets and it will go into the fill color... I wonder if there's a way to click a color so that it goes to the stroke color | 06:23 |
| jenda | try the mod keys | 06:23 |
| jenda | Shift give the borders | 06:24 |
| newz2000 | ah shift | 06:24 |
| newz2000 | :-D | 06:24 |
| jenda | ;) | 06:24 |
| newz2000 | I would have beat you, but I had to edit my post. (left the f out of shift) | 06:24 |
| jenda | hehe | 06:25 |
| jenda | no pride in that - I've only used inkscape twice before. I'm in this channel to _get_ art, not make it | 06:25 |
| jenda | http://su.mindspin-cms-hosting.de/Mockup.png < one instance | 06:26 |
| newz2000 | that's a cool smiley, how'd you do that? | 06:26 |
| jenda | I pressed the win key and o | 06:26 |
| jenda | gahaha | 06:26 |
| jenda | But edited my xmodmap to do a Kana_TU on that combination :) | 06:26 |
| newz2000 | ah | 06:26 |
| jenda | I use a totally custom, four layer keyboard layout based on the dvorak. | 06:27 |
| newz2000 | Did you make that poster? | 06:27 |
| jenda | I did, but not the original work | 06:27 |
| jenda | http://art.ubuntu.com/backgrounds/ubuntu/54 | 06:27 |
| jenda | based on the above | 06:27 |
| newz2000 | How did you make the text flow around the globe? | 06:27 |
| jenda | Haha :-D | 06:28 |
| jenda | You know the answer before you even asked, newz2000 | 06:28 |
| newz2000 | enlighten me | 06:28 |
| newz2000 | manually edit it? | 06:28 |
| jenda | Yes. | 06:29 |
| jenda | Unfortunately. | 06:29 |
| jenda | Copy paste the text and add line breaks where it crosses the border. | 06:29 |
| newz2000 | Are you in Australia? | 06:29 |
| jenda | No idea if there's a way to curve that. | 06:29 |
| jenda | No, I'm in the Czech republic. | 06:29 |
| jenda | The author of the orig might have been. | 06:29 |
| jenda | tristian of gnome-look | 06:30 |
| jenda | In fact, I came into this channel looking for him. | 06:30 |
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| lapo | hi | 06:33 |
| newz2000 | hi | 06:33 |
| jenda | hello | 06:35 |
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| jenda | newz2000: come to think of it, text flowing around selected objects in the design would be an AMAZING feature. | 06:35 |
| newz2000 | Some progs do that, but usually page layout progs, which are sparse on linux. | 06:36 |
| jenda | yes | 06:36 |
| newz2000 | Maybe OOo can do it | 06:36 |
| newz2000 | I know how to fake it in HTML. :D | 06:36 |
| jenda | But it would be a nice inkscape feature, as in - I'd select the properties of the text box and add 'flow objects' - select the globe (or enter it's ID) and the text flows... | 06:37 |
| newz2000 | Inkscape can flow text on a curve, I wonder if you can do it using that feature | 06:37 |
| jenda | Probably, lemme have a look. | 06:38 |
| jenda | newz2000: I just can't find any text flowing - except 'flow into frame', which I don't understand. Doesn't seem to do anything. | 06:44 |
| newz2000 | The tutorial in the help menu I think demonstrates flowing text on a path... let me peek | 06:45 |
| newz2000 | In Help --> Tutorial --> Tips about 60% down there's a tip, Placing text on a path | 06:46 |
| newz2000 | I don't think it will work though | 06:46 |
| jenda | Ah ;) | 06:46 |
| newz2000 | Hmmm | 06:48 |
| newz2000 | it mentions something about "flow text" | 06:48 |
| newz2000 | when I try it | 06:48 |
| newz2000 | yeah, it just lets you make the text wavy | 06:50 |
| jenda | yeah... hmm. | 06:50 |
| newz2000 | Oooh spiral text. | 06:51 |
| newz2000 | I don't know what thats useful for, but it looks cool. | 06:51 |
| jenda | got it! | 06:51 |
| newz2000 | what'd you do? | 06:51 |
| jenda | Gimme five minutes :) | 06:51 |
| newz2000 | ok | 06:51 |
| jenda | You create a 'rectangle' the desired shape | 06:51 |
| jenda | select them both and flow text to frame | 06:52 |
| newz2000 | Let me try it | 06:56 |
| newz2000 | Some of my pallettes have disappeared, namely the alignment. | 06:56 |
| newz2000 | oh, that's cool. It actually goes into the box | 06:58 |
| newz2000 | So you could use the union tool to make boxes any shame you want and fit it right in there | 06:59 |
| newz2000 | shame --> shape | 06:59 |
| jenda | yep :) | 07:06 |
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| jenda | that prog is near perfect. | 07:06 |
| newz2000 | I don't remember there being layers before. | 07:19 |
| newz2000 | This is handy | 07:19 |
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| jenda | newz2000: I'm positive 0.43 had layers. I used them. | 07:53 |
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| fowlduck | can ubuntu icons be svg files? | 08:15 |
| jenda | I think so... try :) | 08:18 |
| fowlduck | not in ubuntu :/ | 08:18 |
| kwwii | if anyone wants to check out the kubuntu philosophy page...it is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/KubuntuPhilosophy | 08:19 |
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| viper550 | Hello | 08:28 |
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| viper550 | Hi | 08:29 |
| nettogrof | hi | 08:29 |
| viper550 | Do you contribute to Tangerine? | 08:29 |
| nettogrof | maybe | 08:30 |
| nettogrof | =/ | 08:30 |
| viper550 | Well, we've got a little problem. Even though originally this spec I've got has nothing to do with Artwork Team...they may actually be needed at all. | 08:31 |
| viper550 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Slab Here's the spec with the problem, look at the bottom for my problem | 08:33 |
| viper550 | Anyone still there? | 08:38 |
| jenda | newz2000: you there? | 08:42 |
| newz2000 | yes | 08:42 |
| jenda | I don't know what to do next - I have a spec and a product... | 08:43 |
| newz2000 | Cool | 08:43 |
| jenda | But when I want to register a branch, it asks for a URL | 08:43 |
| newz2000 | oh | 08:43 |
| jenda | Not sure what to do there. | 08:43 |
| newz2000 | Are you wanting to use bzr? | 08:43 |
| jenda | Yes. | 08:43 |
| newz2000 | I haven't done that yet. | 08:43 |
| newz2000 | I'd ask in the #launchpad or #bzr channels | 08:43 |
| jenda | (btw - I made a next version of the mockup: http://www.novarata.net/1/Mockup2.png) | 08:44 |
| jenda | OK, thanks | 08:44 |
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| lapo | hi | 10:41 |
| jenda | hello | 10:42 |
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| fowlduck | where can I find gconf entries that change the theme? | 11:38 |
| fowlduck | ahh, found it, metacity | 11:40 |
| kwwii | troy_s: ping? | 11:45 |
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