[12:09] kwwii, you in brother? [12:09] hey man, wassup? [12:10] I am still hanging on [12:10] good... night soon for you? [12:10] sleepy time? [12:10] eventually [12:10] I have had a plague of emails in the last two days [12:11] well that's good news i guess! === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii comes from the Gary the Gnu age [12:17] "No gnus is good gnus" === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [02:17] night all === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === klepas_Zzz is now known as klepas === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [06:07] anyone know where/if the Dapper 'Circle of Friends' photo is available? It's not on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official, and I could have sworn it was... [06:08] never mind, it's on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === AndyFitz [n=AndyFitz@cust1772.qld01.dataco.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:52] moin === AndyFitz [n=AndyFitz@cust1772.qld01.dataco.com.au] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] === jd_ [n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [02:46] Hello [02:48] Is there a way to find the author of http://art.ubuntu.com/backgrounds/ubuntu/54 ? [02:56] nvm found him. === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Ex-Chat"] === waky|off is now known as waky === waky is now known as msyg|sleepy === msyg|sleepy is now known as waky|off === SS2 [n=SS2@dslb-084-057-035-059.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:10] yeah its tristian [05:10] from gnome-look [05:15] got him. mailed him. [05:15] http://su.mindspin-cms-hosting.de/Mockup.png [05:19] i like his look as well... are you trying a marketing mock up? [05:24] yes - for the spreadubuntu site [05:24] I made the above based on his work === fowlduck [n=fowlduck@198.150.12.32] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === newz2000 [n=matt@12-216-147-124.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:34] What do you guys do when you create a work that includes a font the client doesn't have? === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:41] what do you guys use in general to make the ubuntu artwork? Is there something especially good for making the logo? [05:42] There's inkscape and the GIMP, if that's what you mean... [05:42] but I'm only a guest here ;) [05:42] ok [05:43] We love svg, and inkscape is a steller tool for creating svg. [05:44] The next two big tools are GIMP and PhotoShop. Some here use Illustrator too. [05:44] But don't forget Adobe Illustrator is evil ;) [05:44] oh cool, I was wondering how to manipulate svg [05:45] fowlduck: there's the gimp-svg plugin, but I think there's a dependency problem there [05:45] yeah, i'll just give inkscape a try [05:45] Inkscape is incredible. I had no trouble working in it even though I've never done anything of the sort before, and yet it can do near anything. [05:46] i'm trying to make a new version of ubuntu...eventually here....but I'm graphically challenged [05:46] Fowlduck, the latest version in Dapper is 0.43, but there's a new version just released that is so nice. [05:46] and I need a background and some icons by thursday. I have a friend workin on it but it looks...... [05:46] I just upgraded last night [05:47] newz2000: I use SuSE for my desktop, Ubuntu for server [05:47] newz2000: i wonder how it is in this one [05:47] I'll bet you can get it. Its worth the work. [05:48] 0.43-20 [05:49] I did a whole project Friday and yesterday in 0.43, then I upgraded last night and almost cried when I saw how much easier some stuff was. [05:49] newz2000: is there a howto somewhere, to upgrade to 0.44? [05:49] nice [05:49] (and a changelog?) [05:49] newz2000: how are the deps? the same? [05:50] folwduck: I don't know, I just downloaded a deb from the forums and it worked. So must be OK. [05:50] Here's a link, [05:50] http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202916&highlight=inkscape [05:50] cool, i'll make it an rpm using alien [05:51] There may be a version out there already [05:51] (Alien never treated me right) [05:52] BTW, newz2000, welcome to the Marketing Team ;) [05:52] am I on it? [05:52] :-D Cool [05:53] Ah, no, you aren't ;) But you made an appearance on the list ;) [05:53] Yeah, I pop on and off [05:53] newz2000: alien hasn't let me down so far [05:54] newz2000: in that case, make that _you_are_ welcome to the Marketing Team :-D [05:54] I was starting to get overwhelmed with communication, so I've backed out of almost every channel. [05:55] So I'm redesigning bzr website [05:55] I found a cool font for the logo, but its non-free. [05:55] What do you guys usually do when you have a font and your 'client' doesn't? === jenda was just exploring ways how the MT could start using bzr [05:56] Or alternately, is there a good source for free (as in OSS) fonts? [05:56] jenda: start with specs [05:56] I wouldn't know... I stick to free stuff, and I'm only here because I needed something from these guys. [05:57] Do you have a team set up on launchpad? [05:57] The Marketing Team - over 43 active members ;) [05:57] (over = there are about 60 recently deactivated ones) [05:58] I'd start by creating specs for the stuff you want to get done. Its kind of like a detailed todo list. [05:58] Then you can priortize and delegate the items. [05:58] Indeed. Create them in the wiki or on LP? [05:58] Lp. [05:58] They two are linked. LP is just an overview, there's a place to link to a wiki page. [05:59] ah :) [05:59] I've just started that for my stuff today [06:00] https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-website for an example [06:00] Click on specs [06:00] s/specs/specificatoins/ [06:01] Hmm... what I have is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/SpreadUbuntu [06:01] It's not created from the spec template though. I get what you mean. I'll have a look at that. [06:01] It won't be code we'll be bazaaring there. [06:02] Since I'm a one-man team at the moment I'm using my for a glorified todo list. That way I can just direct people there when they want to report or request something [06:03] Alright, I'm beginning to get it ;) [06:07] newz2000: Do I first register a product? [06:07] Hmm... good question [06:07] Let me look === jenda guesses these ar #launchpad questions, rather [06:07] yay, .44 installed [06:08] the .package file is nice [06:08] Yes, I guess so [06:08] we need more of that [06:08] fowlduck, congrats [06:08] danke [06:08] jenda, you're right I think you do need a product [06:08] OK, doing that now. [06:09] thanks [06:19] oooh! 0.44 looks soo good :) [06:23] Absolute rockage there... [06:23] I've noticed you can click a color from the pallets and it will go into the fill color... I wonder if there's a way to click a color so that it goes to the stroke color [06:23] try the mod keys [06:24] Shift give the borders [06:24] ah shift [06:24] :-D [06:24] ;) [06:24] I would have beat you, but I had to edit my post. (left the f out of shift) [06:25] hehe [06:25] no pride in that - I've only used inkscape twice before. I'm in this channel to _get_ art, not make it [06:26] http://su.mindspin-cms-hosting.de/Mockup.png < one instance [06:26] that's a cool smiley, how'd you do that? [06:26] I pressed the win key and o [06:26] gahaha [06:26] But edited my xmodmap to do a Kana_TU on that combination :) [06:26] ah [06:27] I use a totally custom, four layer keyboard layout based on the dvorak. [06:27] Did you make that poster? [06:27] I did, but not the original work [06:27] http://art.ubuntu.com/backgrounds/ubuntu/54 [06:27] based on the above [06:27] How did you make the text flow around the globe? [06:28] Haha :-D [06:28] You know the answer before you even asked, newz2000 [06:28] enlighten me [06:28] manually edit it? [06:29] Yes. [06:29] Unfortunately. [06:29] Copy paste the text and add line breaks where it crosses the border. [06:29] Are you in Australia? [06:29] No idea if there's a way to curve that. [06:29] No, I'm in the Czech republic. [06:29] The author of the orig might have been. [06:30] tristian of gnome-look [06:30] In fact, I came into this channel looking for him. === lapo [n=lapo@host238-223-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [06:33] hi [06:33] hi [06:35] hello === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [06:35] newz2000: come to think of it, text flowing around selected objects in the design would be an AMAZING feature. [06:36] Some progs do that, but usually page layout progs, which are sparse on linux. [06:36] yes [06:36] Maybe OOo can do it [06:36] I know how to fake it in HTML. :D [06:37] But it would be a nice inkscape feature, as in - I'd select the properties of the text box and add 'flow objects' - select the globe (or enter it's ID) and the text flows... [06:37] Inkscape can flow text on a curve, I wonder if you can do it using that feature [06:38] Probably, lemme have a look. [06:44] newz2000: I just can't find any text flowing - except 'flow into frame', which I don't understand. Doesn't seem to do anything. [06:45] The tutorial in the help menu I think demonstrates flowing text on a path... let me peek [06:46] In Help --> Tutorial --> Tips about 60% down there's a tip, Placing text on a path [06:46] I don't think it will work though [06:46] Ah ;) [06:48] Hmmm [06:48] it mentions something about "flow text" [06:48] when I try it [06:50] yeah, it just lets you make the text wavy [06:50] yeah... hmm. [06:51] Oooh spiral text. [06:51] I don't know what thats useful for, but it looks cool. [06:51] got it! [06:51] what'd you do? [06:51] Gimme five minutes :) [06:51] ok [06:51] You create a 'rectangle' the desired shape [06:52] select them both and flow text to frame [06:56] Let me try it [06:56] Some of my pallettes have disappeared, namely the alignment. [06:58] oh, that's cool. It actually goes into the box [06:59] So you could use the union tool to make boxes any shame you want and fit it right in there [06:59] shame --> shape [07:06] yep :) === jenda fell in love [07:06] that prog is near perfect. [07:19] I don't remember there being layers before. [07:19] This is handy === waky|off is now known as waky [07:53] newz2000: I'm positive 0.43 had layers. I used them. === waky is now known as msyg|sleepy [08:15] can ubuntu icons be svg files? [08:18] I think so... try :) [08:18] not in ubuntu :/ [08:19] if anyone wants to check out the kubuntu philosophy page...it is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/KubuntuPhilosophy === viper550 [n=main@d57-121-167.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [08:28] Hello === nettogrof [n=steffan@pdpc/supporter/active/nettogrof] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [08:29] Hi [08:29] hi [08:29] Do you contribute to Tangerine? [08:30] maybe [08:30] =/ [08:31] Well, we've got a little problem. Even though originally this spec I've got has nothing to do with Artwork Team...they may actually be needed at all. [08:33] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Slab Here's the spec with the problem, look at the bottom for my problem [08:38] Anyone still there? [08:42] newz2000: you there? [08:42] yes [08:43] I don't know what to do next - I have a spec and a product... [08:43] Cool [08:43] But when I want to register a branch, it asks for a URL [08:43] oh [08:43] Not sure what to do there. [08:43] Are you wanting to use bzr? [08:43] Yes. [08:43] I haven't done that yet. [08:43] I'd ask in the #launchpad or #bzr channels [08:44] (btw - I made a next version of the mockup: http://www.novarata.net/1/Mockup2.png) [08:44] OK, thanks === SS2 [n=SS2@dslb-084-057-041-205.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === msyg|sleepy is now known as waky|off === waky|off is now known as waky === fschoep [n=franksch@adsl-dc-35cb8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === fschoep [n=franksch@adsl-dc-35cb8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === lapo [n=lapo@host20-154.pool8259.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:41] hi [10:42] hello === newz2000 [n=matt@12-216-147-124.client.mchsi.com] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Talk] [11:38] where can I find gconf entries that change the theme? [11:40] ahh, found it, metacity [11:45] troy_s: ping?