[04:30] <nixternal> hiya jsgotangco
[04:30] <jsgotangco> hey nixternal
[04:30] <jsgotangco> what's up
[04:30] <nixternal> recovering from a neice and nephew overload
[04:30] <nixternal> they came right as the CC meeting started too
[04:32] <jsgotangco> doh!
[04:32] <nixternal> Ubuntu Chicago is official!!!!
[04:32] <jsgotangco> woohooo
[04:33] <jsgotangco> i did wake up at 4am but there was no power at home because of a nearby typhoon
[04:33] <jsgotangco> i woke up because i felt no air conditioining lol
[04:33] <nixternal> we should have Ubuntu hosting next week to hold a small front page/news page, and a small forums for communications..we still have a few that doesn't like irc ;)
[04:33] <nixternal> i had to turn on ac a little while ago..very humid here
[04:33] <jsgotangco> really
[04:33] <jsgotangco> thats still good news
[04:40] <jsgotangco> reading log brb
[04:56] <Madpilot> hi all
[04:56] <Burgundavia> hey Madpilot, not going to VLUG?
[04:57] <Madpilot> forgot it was tonight, until I saw the email about half an hour ago 
[04:57] <Burgundavia> about to head out now, waiting for clothes to dry
[08:57] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, "All CategoryCleanup pages should be tagged with a bar across the top," - I don't think I've ever seen this - is there a macro for it, or a standard chunk to cut & paste?
[08:58] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: neither currently, but we need such a bar
[08:58] <Madpilot> can MoinMoin do macros like Mediawiki does?
[08:58] <jsgotangco> we can pray to the rain god
[08:59] <Burgundavia> hmm, I think so, but I am certain how
[08:59] <Burgundavia> *I am not
[08:59] <Madpilot> hi jsgotangco 
[09:00] <jsgotangco> hey Madpilot
[09:01] <mdke> Madpilot: I'm talking to the moin people about it, there is no feature like that yet
[09:02] <Madpilot> mdke, too bad
[09:02] <mdke> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=22147653&forum_id=623
[09:03] <jsgotangco> wow those are huge fonts
[09:03] <mdke> yeah
[09:03] <Burgundavia> sf just changed
[09:03] <Burgundavia> I noticed that at work too
[09:03] <Madpilot> good, glad the giant fonts aren't just an Opera quirk :)
[09:04] <Burgundavia> mdke: actually, mediawiki does it opposite
[09:04] <mdke> yes, indeed
[09:04] <Burgundavia> the template for the cleanup tag contains the code to add the page to that category
[09:04] <Burgundavia> or whatever tag
[09:04] <mdke> see my second email in that thread
[09:05] <jsgotangco> mdke knows all
[09:05] <jsgotangco> *g*
[09:05] <Burgundavia> ah yes
[09:05] <Burgundavia> I am trying to plow through a lot of email before I have to go to bed
[09:06] <mdke> anyway, I had an email from someone who would like to help with that, so we might be able to get it sorted
[09:06] <Burgundavia> ok, Blam is seriously pissing me off
[09:07] <jsgotangco> really, I've switched for Liferea ever since
[09:07] <Burgundavia> I am about to, given that liferea is alive and blam is not
[09:11] <Burgundavia> this has got to be one of the best done maps I have seen (the specific continent section) http://old.koha.org/about/map/
[09:13] <jsgotangco> yeah
[09:13] <jsgotangco> hmmm
[09:14] <jsgotangco> this docbook/mallard thing is not going anywhere
[09:15] <jsgotangco> im sure gnome would have more contributors if its not such a pain to grab the sources itself
[09:15] <jsgotangco> or well documented even
[09:15] <mdke> jsgotangco: I think it is going somewhere
[09:15] <mdke> it's a very useful discussion indeed
[09:15] <jsgotangco> sure dont get me wrong, i mean
[09:16] <Burgundavia> have we looked into integrated wiki and help searching?
[09:16] <mdke> Burgundavia: no... I'm kinda hoping that everything will be on the wiki by next release cycle
[09:16] <Burgundavia> ah, due to mvrikkils stuff?
[09:17] <mdke> well, not necessarily worked on in the wiki, but published there
[09:18] <Burgundavia> mdke: what is the move procedure?
[09:18] <Burgundavia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:18] <mdke> Burgundavia: get the raw code, put it on the new wiki, insert a redirect with "#refresh 0 url"
[09:24] <Madpilot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MusicWhileInstalling <-- this one's for CategorySpecsThatMakeLittleSense...
[09:30] <Burgundavia> ok, the art team needs to be told not to move stuff around needlessly
[09:30] <Burgundavia> followed a link from the tango project and ended up at a deadend
[09:30] <Burgundavia> even I could not figure out where it should have linked to
[03:52] <jenda> mdke: ping
[04:00] <mdke> jenda: pong
[04:00] <jenda> mdke: We have this unofficial Jabber channel which I recently had you add to http://www.ubuntu.com/support/local
[04:01] <jenda> The problem is that the admins of that are extremely stubborn in NOT abiding by the CoC or signing it.
[04:02] <mdke> jenda: right
[04:02] <mdke> you want me to remove it?
[04:07] <jenda> Well, do you think it should be removed? I do.
[04:08] <jsgotangco> go go go!
[04:08] <jsgotangco> =)
[04:09] <mdke> jenda: I don't know the details, but if you want to remove it for now, that's fine by me. Who is team contact for -czech?
[04:09] <jenda> ondrej sury
[04:09] <mdke> get him to email me?
[04:10] <jenda> I'll talk to him about it - I know he's opposed to the Jabber room, but I was the one who had it put up there.
[04:10] <mdke> does that sound reasonable?
[04:10] <jenda> Yes, I'll do that.
[04:10] <mdke> great
[04:33] <mvirkkil> mdke: Fixing that "paragraph can contain lists" bug is done now. Not nicely done, but it works.
[04:34] <mvirkkil> Going from docbook->moin->docbook will result in the list ending up outside the paragraph, since there is no consept of having lists inside paragraphs in the moin markup.
[04:34] <mvirkkil> I thought about formatting a list in a paragraph inline like: These are the things I like: pizza; hotdogs; java; python, and so on.
[04:46] <mdke> mvirkkil: I don't think roundtripping is something you should worry about much
[04:46] <mvirkkil> mdke: No, I don't worry about it.
[04:46] <mdke> nice work on fixing it
[04:46] <mvirkkil> mdke: I just use it to verify that I'm getting approximately ok results.
[04:50] <mdke> yeah
[04:51] <jsgotangco> goodnight
[05:29] <jenda> mdke: would you know who's in charge of lists.ubunt.com?
[05:29] <jenda> The Chicago LoCo would like their own list - nixternal?
[05:29] <nixternal> yes sir they would
[05:36] <mdke> jenda: yes, jeff waugh is in charge of it
[05:37] <jenda> OK, thanks