[12:10] Oh and lfittl+ ( I see his name all over :-) ) [12:10] ok [12:10] bddebian: thanks :) [12:10] bddebian: thank you [12:10] ok, alenitchev I think you're next on the list [12:10] alenitchev: wanna do your intro? [12:11] ok [12:11] My name is Dmitri Alenitchev. I'm 19 years old and live in Moscow region, Russia. At present moment i work in small software company, "Digital Worlds J.S.C." at System Administrator position. In my work i use Free and Open Source software. [12:11] Since 2000 year i use GNU/Linux as my primary OS. Also, i use FreeBSD and OpenBSD. My contribution to Open Source project was started from packaging and documentation works for Russian RPM-based Linux distribution - ALTLinux. I make some works for another RPM distribution - Fedora Core Linux. My first translations to Russian language i make for Fedora Core. Since summer, 2005 I'm official GNU Webmaster. Also, i make some works for various GNU [12:11] projects. [12:11] Since 2005 year i become maintainer of `manpages-ru' package in Debian, included in Ubuntu. In this year i start making works for OpenOffice.org (documentation, translation and QA). [12:11] My interests in Ubuntu is participating in works for better hardware support, packaging, translation in Russian language, documentation, QA. I think about 3-5 hours work for Ubuntu every day. [12:11] use Ubuntu since Warty [12:11] since breezy my package (from Debian) in Ubuntu [12:12] that is all ;) [12:13] that's a lot of teams (on launchpad); how many of those do you actively keep up with? [12:13] many of them [12:14] i'm in team, which interested for me === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === sryan [n=sryan@office-gw.mind.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] [12:15] just seems like a hell of a lot to actively keep up with, that's all :) [12:16] no real problems though, you seem to have been making reasonable contributions for a while [12:16] yeah, I agree [12:16] thanks [12:17] maybe one day we'll get around to music-while-installing ;-) === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:17] that will be really nice! ;) [12:17] (though I expect it'll end up being Mark's flash demo or whatever) [12:17] (once the content actually exists and free software can play it without crashing and burning entertainingly) === jenda will turn up his stereo louder [12:18] Kamion: yes, can [12:18] anyhow, +1 as far as I'm concerned; mako can catch up with you later on for final approval [12:19] Kamion: thanks [12:19] ok, who's next [12:19] nixternal, I think? [12:19] im still here [12:19] hehe [12:19] go go go === nixternal is Rich Johnson, 32 years old, out of Chicago, IL US. I am a sys admin by trade, and getting ready to go back to school to brush up on programming!!! [12:19] Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nixternal | launchpad: https://launchpad.net/people/nixternal [12:19] Been using/abusing Linux since 1994 (on & off). Started playing with Ubuntu last year, and fell in love really starting with Kubuntu Dapper Flight 3. [12:19] I have been in and out of the IRC channel with many different nicks over the past year, however since April/May I have been 'nixternal' in #kubuntu offering support as much as possible. [12:19] I am also in the NewUserNetwork which runs a classroom for the new user and their Ubuntu Linux operating system. Starting in August we will be running actual classes for everyone to check out. I will be adding myself as a mentor/instructor for a couple of programs. [12:20] I have contributed a lot to many wiki pages, as I work on the WikiTeam. My main contributions have been in the CategoryCleanup area, cleaning up pages that aren't styled correctly, or the information is confusing. I have done over 100 pages so far, and there is still more then 300 left. [12:20] DocumentationTeam work consists of helping the team review documentation, as I am not a full fledged member just yet, and I am still learning the svn system as well as docbooks. However, I am working alongside jjesse and others on creating "Switching From Windows" documentation. [12:20] Marketing Team work right now is huge, as we are redesigning ourselves. I am currently working on Wiki redesign for all Marketing pages, as well as the Magazine project. I am also working on documentation/presentations for members to use for Marketing as well as for the LoCo Teams. [12:20] Laptop team work is currently pretty slow as we are waiting for the first Knot really to begin testing again. I have contributed a Kubuntu Dapper test for Flight 7 and the LTS. I will continue providing support in the IRC channel as well. [12:20] nixternal, ah, so the NuN/classroom is going somewhere, cool! [12:20] BugSquad work will definitely keep you busy. I have done triage, minor in aspect, as I haven't created a patch just yet, but I have done the general work by responding to the poster, asking for more information if needed, and confirming if possible. [12:20] Chicago Team is keeping me pretty busy as it is a very new team. We are officially holding our first meeting July 27. I will be giving a couple presentations as well as a few of our other members. Membership is continuing to grow daily, and we are planning an event downtown Chicago soon. [12:20] Rich Johnson's contribution and support in the Marketing Team was invaluable. Added his involvement in the NUN, WikiTeam, DocTeam etc., but mainly the Chicago LoCo Team - he is an extremely valuable asset to the Ubuntu community, and if every LoCo had one of these, Ubuntu Marketing would probably be on a totally different level by now. [12:20] I am becoming more and more of a forums leach. I have supported a couple of things in both the Ubuntu and Kubuntu forums. I am trying to work my way up the proverbial "Cups of Java" ladder, of course without spamming to gain points ;) [12:20] Seveas: so far we hope to get it moving [12:20] My future plans are to continue supporting the Ubuntu community anyway possible. I am interested in future programming and packaging, as well as documentation, testing, reviewing, marketing, bug triaging, and everything else I am available to do. [12:20] Thank you, and now the floor is open to you!!! [12:20] yes Seveas [12:21] now that my lag is at 2s ;) [12:22] there is more that you will find me doing... i believe jjesse also emailed Seveas with support [12:22] i am in to many channgels to count, and when i can help i step up if possible [12:22] I've seen nixternal helping people in #kubuntu for quite a while (>>2 months). Of other areas I'm involved with he's an active contributor to ubuntu-marketing, ubuntu-doc and it seeems he's a (the?) prime mover for the Chicago LoCoTeam. Enthusiastic, Smart, a Do-er. A real asset. [12:23] i figure that if Ubuntu is free to me, then I should help as much as possible to continue it [12:23] nixternal, dang [12:23] I will not be able to make it to the next meeting to pass on a word of recommendation for Rich but wanted to lend what support maybe. He has been quite active on many channels including #kubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-doc adding interesting things to the converstation. We are working together on creating a new document (wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDocs/Edgy) Switching From Windows for edgy and have had l [12:23] ots of discussion. He has also been VERY VERY active on the Wiki doing a lot of cleanup and other thankless tasks. A great candidate for becoming a Ubuntu Member. I know how hard it is to become a member without support so I wanted to lend any help that I can. [12:23] ^-- jjesse sent that two weeks ago [12:23] hehe [12:23] completely forgot it this time [12:23] thx Seveas [12:23] thank god he CC'd me, otherwise i wouldn't have known [12:23] nixternal: is doing a great job with -marketing and -nun and i have seen him step up when hes around to help another user [12:23] also, im getting ready to help jsgotangco on a "Server Book" project he has coming up [12:24] i will be providing a review to the publisher [12:24] nixternal, /me too [12:24] ok [12:24] im picking up packaging, as I read it to help out LaserJock with editing it [12:25] thanks nixternal, that all seems pretty impressive [12:25] thank you [12:25] +1 from me [12:25] (catching up, one sec) [12:25] hehe [12:25] who is doing lp today? Sp4rKy is not accepted yet on lp [12:25] CoC is signed, karma >10k [12:25] been here a few months [12:26] staying here for as long as you will keep me ;) [12:26] yup, having read that, no issues - +1 [12:27] elmo: will you do lp or do you want me to? [12:27] nixternal, almost congratz then (make will read later) [12:27] sharms2, you're next [12:27] make..lol mako [12:27] hahah [12:27] Kamion: I can do it === sharms2 is here [12:27] ta [12:27] thanks everyone!!! [12:27] I am Steven Harms. My wiki page (create to spec with the requirements listed :): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StevenHarms, and I am applying for Ubuntu Membership. I have been using Ubuntu since it first came out (in fact my forums user ID is < 600). [12:27] I frequently help users on #ubuntu, I have recently taken an active role in bug triage, and am looking to eventually join the MOTU. [12:27] I also act as a Ubuntu support / advocate on the campus of the university of michigan, and provide ubuntu cd's to students (I generally distribute ~30 a release) [12:27] I am looking to increase my roll in bug triage, because I feel it is one of the best ways to help ubuntu by filtering bugs which are not bugs, and confirming the ones that are bugs, so people directly involved may actually fix said bugs. [12:28] I thank you for taking the time to look over my wiki page and appreciate your time [12:28] sharms, what's your forum profilepage? [12:29] one sec [12:29] http://www.ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=330 [12:30] On a side note, for the freenode ofth discussion, I was previously known as mindwarp here until my nickname was stolen === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 12 Jul 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 07:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 19:00 UTC: Marketing Team | 17 Jul 13:00 UTC: Kubuntu | 18 Jul 20:00 UTC: Technical Board | 19 Jul 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu [12:31] Here is my mouse howto: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192264 [12:31] for those using the usb microsoft explorer mouse with forward and back buttons (firefox) [12:33] hmm, did you have anyone vouching for you? [12:33] bddebian [12:33] he has seen me help people in #ubuntu [12:33] but mostly just that I bug triage right now, which doesnt have a ton of interaction over here [12:33] ok [12:34] #ubuntu-bugs is where us bug sickos hang out!! [12:34] :) [12:36] Also I am hoping to take over the istanbul package eventaully [12:36] been working on it but I think gstreamer needs more polish at this point since certain pipes segfault here [12:36] sharms: how long have you been doing bug triage and stuff? [12:37] Last few months I have started triaging very actively, previously due to an already reported launchpad bug I wasn't able to find how to properly triage bugs [12:38] ok [12:38] ok, your page is a little light compared to some others tonight, but you do seem to have been doing a fairly respectable amount of bug work === popey [n=popey@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === pontifex [n=pontifex@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:39] agreed, +1 from me [12:39] thank you very much [12:39] ok, lfittl ? [12:40] I recommend continuing to work with the #ubuntu-bugs and #ubuntu-motu crowds [12:40] who can help you develop [12:40] but +1 from me for membership for the time being [12:40] My name is Lukas Fittl, I'm a student from Vienna, Austria. [12:40] I have started using Ubuntu with 5.04 / Hoary, and with the start of the dapper release cycle I got interested in packaging. At the moment I maintain 10 packages in universe, and for one package I am also part of upstream (libloki). For Dapper I fixed around 60 unmet dependencies in universe. If I find some free time I triage bugs in Malone, and I also review old bug reports that are still open to ensure they have the cor [12:40] rect status. Recently I added a new column to the packaging candidates page, to make tracking the debian status and existing packages easier. [12:40] I appreciate the advice thank you [12:40] More information can be found at my wiki page (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LukasFittl). [12:40] excuse me, I have a crying child to attend to [12:40] k === GStubbs43 [n=GStubbs4@pool-72-73-93-252.ptldme.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["I] === chuck_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:43] right, sorry, back [12:43] wow, impressive amount of packaging work [12:43] np [12:44] elmo: thanks, I also have some other packages on my todo list ;) [12:44] we seriously need to get uploads into the karma system [12:45] yep [12:45] oh, good point, I'll file a bug on soyuz [12:45] \o/ [12:45] elmo: I think this is already planned somewhere in the wiki [12:45] lfittl: bugs help reinforce planning ;) [12:46] elmo: thats right :) [12:46] https://launchpad.net/products/soyuz/+spec/soyuz-karma [12:46] :) [12:46] any MOTUs still around and want to do their \o/ dance for lfittl? [12:47] lfittl has been around -motu for some time [12:47] dholbach sponsored a lot for lfittl and was always happy with the package quality as he often told me [12:47] cool, that spec proposes enormous karma for archive admins, rah [12:47] *ahem* [12:47] I haven't sponsored any of lfittl's packages so I can't say much there [12:47] seems he keeps our windowmaker community happy ;) === Flik [n=Flik@d205-250-156-195.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:49] +1 from me [12:49] thank you :) [12:51] right, +1 for sheer packaging effort [12:52] I've seen your name going past for some time now [12:52] also, thanks :) [12:53] should I contact mako to get his opinion, or will he automatically catch up? [12:54] yes, what about mako's opinion? [12:54] we'll send him a a mail asking him to look at the logs for you 4 when he gets a chance [12:54] k [12:54] if he has any concerns, we can deal with them, otherwise, you'll be approved when he's had a chance to do that [12:55] we'll also have to schedule the next meeting out of band. but mark should be back for the next one [12:55] ok, thanks! [12:55] thanks for your time [12:55] I really appreciate it guys also [12:55] ok, sorry this has been such a marathon meeting [12:56] it shows dedication! [12:56] (not been any easier for us than for you guys) [12:56] yeah, thanks everyone for your patience [12:56] thanks for your time! [12:56] meeting closed. adjourned. whatever. thank you and good night. === alenitchev [n=dmitri@212.118.46.214] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Ex-Chat"] === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === Sanne [n=Sanne@p548DBE80.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Goodbye"] === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Ex-Chat"] === dinda [n=dinda@cpe-72-181-94-197.houston.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === sharms [n=mindwarp@cpe-24-208-242-169.twmi.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === Xardas2 [n=Xardas@84-73-249-7.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Xardas2 [n=Xardas@84-73-249-7.dclient.hispeed.ch] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Verlassend"] === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@CPE-139-168-227-97.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Ex-Chat"] === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Huahua [n=hua_@123.49.238.68] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === thierryn [n=thierry@modemcable251.69-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === zyoboda [n=Zyoboda@ool-4578c1da.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jrib [n=jasonr@AC93AAFD.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jrib [n=jasonr@AC93AAFD.ipt.aol.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jarufe [n=jarufe@pc-126-32-239-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@210.4.38.43] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D9CA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jjross [n=jim@ani-pdsl1-static-180.actionnet.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Fracture [n=Fracture@dsl-202-173-191-84.qld.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Flik [n=Flik@d205-250-156-195.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === nixternal [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:48] @schedule chicago [05:48] Schedule for America/Chicago: 12 Jul 07:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 02:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 14:00: Marketing Team | 17 Jul 08:00: Kubuntu | 18 Jul 15:00: Technical Board | 19 Jul 15:00: Edubuntu === elmo [n=james@83-216-156-21.jamest747.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === nixternal [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["http://www.kubuntu.com] === j_ack_ [n=rudi@p508D9E32.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c211-28-181-26.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [08:20] ps === Seveas inflates dholbach again [08:22] haha :) === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === stefg [n=stefg@dslb-088-072-202-081.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === robitaille [i=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === lukketto [n=lukketto@host26-37.pool871.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === lukketto [n=lukketto@host26-37.pool871.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [09:24] @schedule ECT [09:24] @schedule New York [09:24] @schedule Eastern [09:24] Schedule for Canada/Eastern: 12 Jul 08:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 03:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 15:00: Marketing Team | 17 Jul 09:00: Kubuntu | 18 Jul 16:00: Technical Board | 19 Jul 16:00: Edubuntu [09:25] jenda: New_York [09:26] No prob ;) thx === jenda is Prague, no spaces to bother me. [09:26] @schedule Prague [09:26] Schedule for Europe/Prague: 12 Jul 14:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 09:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 21:00: Marketing Team | 17 Jul 15:00: Kubuntu | 18 Jul 22:00: Technical Board | 19 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu [09:26] wow :) I really thought I booked the MT meeting for 22:00 :D === lukketto [n=lukketto@host26-37.pool871.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === lukketto [n=lukketto@host26-37.pool871.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === highvoltage [n=jono@196.1.57.88] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === highvoltage [n=jono@196.1.57.88] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-107-122.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mdz_ [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === rodarvus_ [n=rodarvus@200.175.197.33.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === cautery [n=curtis@cpe-204-210-243-64.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === alenitchev [n=dmitri@212.118.46.214] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === alenitchev [n=dmitri@212.118.46.214] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Ex-Chat"] === RichEd [n=RichardW@dsl-146-151-185.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:34] @schedule Sao_Paulo [01:34] Schedule for America/Sao_Paulo: 12 Jul 09:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 04:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 16:00: Marketing Team | 17 Jul 10:00: Kubuntu | 18 Jul 17:00: Technical Board | 19 Jul 17:00: Edubuntu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:44] greetz ... i'm a newbie to (ed)ubuntu meetings ... is there a specific agenda for the meeting ? [01:45] @now [01:45] Current time in Etc/UTC: July 12 2006, 11:45:03 - Next meeting: Edubuntu in 14 minutes [01:45] RichEd, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:47] ogra: re LAMS ... twas already on the swot up task list from Mark while he is on leave. [01:48] ah, cool [01:49] Seveas: tx :) followed the link above to the meeting page ... didn't spot the agenda link === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Current meeting: Edubuntu | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 13 Jul 07:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 19:00 UTC: Marketing Team | 17 Jul 13:00 UTC: Kubuntu | 18 Jul 20:00 UTC: Technical Board | 19 Jul 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === RichEd goes to fetch a pre-meeting coffee === JaneW [n=JaneW@196.211.88.182] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:00] meep [02:00] hi [02:00] seems cbx33 is missing for the minutes [02:01] also there are no extra points on the agenda ... thats fine [02:01] so lets keep it short :) [02:02] from the tech side: [02:02] i'm lagginng a bit with the edubuntu-artwork fix for dapper ... due to two merges for ubuntu i hadnt planned buit i'm doing atm [02:02] +but i hope to get it done this week [02:03] the metapackages and seeds are in shape so far (if you have seen the changelog of my edubuntu-meta upload... its huge, we dropped a lot) [02:03] so we should be ready for tomorrows first milestone CD [02:04] nice [02:04] first milestone already? === RobinShepheard [n=robins@81.17.65.2] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:04] cool [02:04] ogra: it might very well not happen tomorrow unless a lot of packages are fixed. [02:04] what are they called this time? [02:04] apart from that i'm most busy with ubuntu stuff as rodarvus is ... [02:04] JaneW: knot [02:04] knot 1 [02:04] ogra: lets just hope the rest of the distribution is fixed by tomorrow :) [02:04] weird [02:04] which as Mithrandir mentioned, I'm not really confident is going to happen [02:04] I liked scuttle [02:05] Mithrandir, well, at least our -meta side is sorted, that was on top of my TODO :) [02:05] right :) [02:05] rodarvus, doesnt matter i'm only looking from a edubuntu POV atm [02:05] ogra: sure, just trying to not give people too high hopes about having something tomorrow. [02:05] Mithrandir, i'm happy if i dont have to test all night :) [02:05] edubuntu-specific syncs and merges no issues? [02:06] no "high hopes" here :) [02:06] jsgotangco: Kalzium appears to be broken ATM, but I believe it is due to KDE specific stuff [02:06] right [02:06] jsgotangco, sure, but they didnt have a deadline today :) [02:06] err .. [02:06] actually, I'm doing another dist-upgrade right now [02:06] forget about my last sentence :) [02:06] so in a minute I'll tell you if Kalzium is still broken :) [02:06] i was reading "promotions to main" [02:07] there is nothing left to merge for edubuntu [02:07] rodarvus, it might need a rebuild if libs underneath changed [02:07] ogra: indeed [02:07] thats a typical KDE thing ... [02:07] I wish our build system could trigger library upgrades [02:08] the kdeedu package itself should be fine though.... === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:09] ill just skip dist-upgrading for now and wait for knot before testing [02:09] in other bad news, my amd64 laptop died this week ... so i currently can only do powerpc testing (which isnt very helpful) [02:09] im going to fill in for amd64 if you want but my bandwidth isnt that great [02:09] it would be very appreciated to have some i386 and amd64 testers once the knot CD is up [02:10] my upgrade to 2mb dsl arrived yesterday [02:10] I can do i386 testing === jsgotangco curses his bandwidth [02:10] i'll try to get a new amd64 lappie, but given that i also have to care for my move it might take some days [02:10] my new laptop (intel core duo) should arrive in one or two weeks, but thats still i386 [02:11] so, thats all from the tech side so far ... === jsgotangco sighs === ogra ponders if he forgot something [02:11] oh, right, the switch to a common buildsystem for ltsp is going on ... [02:12] i just merged some changes from otavio ... i'll testbuild them this week and see if it works [02:13] i'm installing on a HP Pentium M 740 over the weekend ... if that helps as another test enviroment. [02:13] once thats done the ltsp upstream guys willl jump on the code and start helping with development [02:13] RichEd, what we'll test will be highly unstable ... [02:13] very [02:13] but if you have space for a spare testing partition, thats fine [02:13] noted [02:14] its the first milestone and not really expected to work flawless :) [02:14] (i.e. a bug we havent discovered yet might wipe your HD ) [02:14] so, tech update done i guess ... === pips1 [n=philipp@195.216.81.229] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:15] nobody from the cookbook team ? [02:15] seems they had a meeting ... [02:15] well pips1 is here [02:15] hi [02:15] pips1, any intresting things about documentation ? [02:15] nope [02:16] but I wanted to discuss the website and how it relates to the documentation... [02:16] highvoltage, anything from your side (you were looking for website admins iirc) [02:16] sorry for being late, btw [02:17] ok, seems there are either no documentation changes or its just nobody here who could tell us about :) [02:17] since lisa isnt here i doubt we'll get an artwork update [02:17] but she announced herself on the ubuntu-art mailinglist yesterday :) [02:18] yes [02:18] nice [02:18] anything else about art ? === flint [n=flint@peter.rfa.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:19] ogra: also note that its very unlikely that she'll ever attend early morning edubuntu meetings [02:19] rodarvus, you said your wife would be intreasted [02:19] its probably 5-6am where she lives now :) [02:19] rodarvus, lisa ? [02:19] she lives in the uk [02:19] ogra: indeed, my wife is interested, I talked to her already [02:19] oh [02:19] sorry [02:19] greetings sorry I am late in DC... [02:19] I thougth she lived in the us [02:19] nope [02:19] disregard my comment then [02:19] hi flint [02:20] pips1, hey... [02:20] but she has a day job afaik [02:20] ogra: so, I talked with my wife, she is very competent, and willing to help [02:20] great ! [02:20] we'll need a team going at some point :) [02:20] indeed :) [02:21] as an interaction designer, she's totally Windows, though [02:21] my GF would also like to help, but given the time constraints we currently have here, that wont happen for edgy i guess [02:21] doesnt matter ... as long as she can produce svg and png ;) [02:21] but only for reference, my wife used to work as a designer of a local linux distribution [02:21] so the icons/themes thing is really not news for her [02:21] ogra, imho we need less designers and more coders/testers. [02:22] flint: we don't need less designers [02:22] Flik, the coding front is coming up to speed [02:22] we just need more technical people [02:22] *flint [02:22] one thing is not related to the other :) [02:22] yeah [02:22] and i'm not worried about the tech front atm ... [02:22] rodarvus, i am. have you seen the other LTSP offerings? [02:22] flint: ogra and I have been busy doing merges the past few weeks [02:23] it works quite well and there are people on their way to become more involved in hacking [02:23] rodarvus, when can we expect a new version say a flight? [02:23] we are supposed to start working almost-full-time on Edubuntu (and LTSP) starting next week [02:23] flint, we have scott and jim aboard for ltsp now [02:23] no need to worry about that [02:23] rodarvus, would this next release be a flight? [02:23] ogra: scott and jim? [02:24] they will base their next release on our code [02:24] flint: next Knot ("flight" for Edgy) will be ready soon - it was mentioned in the beginning of the meeting, btw [02:24] pips1, ltsp upstream [02:24] hmm just to add my wife is not even interested in this stuff im doing sorry =) [02:24] flint, they are called knots not flights this release [02:24] rodarvus, thanks DC traffic etc... [02:24] supposed to happen tomorrow, but likely to slip, due to merges being still ongoing [02:24] flint, it will be knot 1 [02:24] rodarvus, ah a slip-knot! :^) [02:24] hehe [02:25] :) [02:25] :^) [02:25] flint, dont worry about ltsp ... it will come up to speed :) [02:25] anyhow, back on topic :) [02:25] yeah [02:25] ok [02:25] are we done with artwork ? [02:25] *nods* [02:25] fine then ... [02:26] so lets come to the intresting part of this meeting [02:26] ladies and gentlemen .... [02:26] ... i'd like to introduce you all to aour new team mate .... [02:26] ... our new educational manger .... [02:26] ... husband of a former colleague .... === RichEd waves hello [02:27] ogra: is lisa directly involved now? [02:27] and surely the best guy we could get for the job ! [02:27] meet RichEd !!!! [02:27] RichEd: welcome! === RichEd takes a bow === rodarvus cheers [02:27] JaneW, she's our new baked artteam leader [02:27] RichEd: welcome! [02:27] RichEd, Welcome and give my kindest regards to your wife [02:27] welcome [02:27] flint: hello [02:27] Thanks all ... I'm very gladf to be here ... [02:27] RichEd: who's your wife? [02:27] flint: do it yourself dude! :P [02:27] yeah welcome RichEd :) [02:28] simira: JaneW [02:28] ah [02:28] btw welcome, RichEd [02:28] hello JaneW :-) [02:28] JaneW, hey kiddo! [02:28] JaneW, how are you? Tollef told me you left. [02:28] simira, only physically :) === flint flint is most pleased to see Jane. [02:28] she's stilll here as you see [02:28] ogra: I see that [02:28] simira: good thanks [02:29] simira: she is holding my hand to day :) on her new emploers time & internet connection :) [02:29] simira, we wont let her out of our claws this easy ;) [02:29] RichEd: sounds good. [02:29] JaneW, who you working for? === JaneW doesn't want to disrupt meeting === flint ...so I can invest... [02:29] flint we can chat in #edubuntu [02:30] JaneW, fine [02:30] i think we're done for today, unless someone has anything thats not on the agenda yet [02:30] wow, quick meeting === jsgotangco cannot think of any [02:30] if you have anything that should be discussed, SPEAK UP NOW ! [02:30] ow's the cookbook? [02:30] still improving? [02:30] FYI Elkner and the DC mafia invaded San Diego [02:30] ogra: website! [02:30] JaneW, nobody from the team was here [02:31] flint: oh yes how did NECC go? [02:31] pips1, tell us [02:31] JaneW, I will send you something... on the cookbook [02:31] flint: ta [02:31] elkner went to tijuana.... [02:31] flint: er... recreationally...? [02:31] I stayed here. Big Crowd much interest... [02:32] I think it would be very good if we could get more "life" into the website, i.e. more content, but also more interactions... [02:32] pips1, highvoltage asked for more webmasters [02:32] pips1, yes more updates and dynamic stuff too [02:32] (last week) [02:32] yes highvoltage will need help, he has a new venture to focus on and won't be able to commit much time here afaik [02:32] I have been wondering what would be the best way to go about that... I think it would be great if we could get more educators discussing edu apps etc [02:32] yep [02:33] he has to be our edubuntu reseller in the future ;) [02:33] pips1, indeed [02:33] pips1, ++ [02:33] pips1, right now I am busy making trouble in DC. After that I teach LTSP at University of New Hampshire (NELS) then I will cause more trouble here... [02:33] I think part of the problem so far was us guessing what what needed rather than getting actual requests [02:33] JaneW: you will still keep up with your engagement in Edubuntu on voluntary basis? [02:33] in general, non technical people like forums and as far as i could see, there is still no edubuntu-specific forum on ubuntuforums? [02:33] pips1, i think such stuff will be part of RichEd's job (correcrt me if i'm wrong) [02:34] JaneW, look at Fedora K12 LTSP and do what they are doing. [02:34] except do it better... [02:34] pips1, there is one in the german forums ... i thought ubuntuforumms has one as well [02:34] :^) [02:34] it does look a bit dull at the moment [02:34] and nothing moves [02:34] the problem with forums is that you want moderators... [02:35] btw RichEd is disconnect, prolly by ADSL reset [02:35] we need some kind of quality assurance for the website, I don't think we can allow anonymous postings, can we...? [02:35] simira, I am going to try to be around a bit, but can't commit to much atm [02:35] JaneW, then he can correct me later :) [02:35]