| bddebian | Later gang | 12:10 |
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| Toadstool | cya bddebian | 12:10 |
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| LaserJock | raphink: you around for real? | 12:17 |
| raphink | I'm around, but I'm not real | 12:17 |
| raphink | it's just an idea | 12:18 |
| raphink | ;) | 12:18 |
| Toadstool | heh | 12:18 |
| Toadstool | hi raphink | 12:18 |
| LaserJock | raphink: I can't find any revu admins, gisomount is stuck in REVU | 12:18 |
| raphink | hi Toadstool | 12:18 |
| raphink | LaserJock: stuck like no one has go the key? | 12:18 |
| LaserJock | raphink: stuck as in it's in incoming but the .changes is in rejected | 12:19 |
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| raphink | hehe I guess | 12:19 |
| raphink | what package is that? | 12:19 |
| LaserJock | gisomount | 12:19 |
| raphink | there its' not stuck anymore | 12:19 |
| raphink | :) | 12:19 |
| LaserJock | thanks | 12:20 |
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| LaserJock | anybody familiar with irc.gnome.org? | 12:57 |
| azeem | in which regard? | 12:58 |
| LaserJock | I need to know what ports it works on? especiall other than 6667 | 12:58 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: do you have a remote box to which to ssh? | 01:00 |
| LaserJock | kinda | 01:01 |
| LaserJock | every once in a while I turn on my home computer | 01:01 |
| crimsun | then you can ssh over and either irc from there, or do as I do (tunnel everything through an external box to circumvent firewalls) | 01:01 |
| LaserJock | yeah, let me give that a whirl real quick | 01:03 |
| crimsun | do you use irssi? | 01:03 |
| LaserJock | all the other networks I need have alternate ports | 01:03 |
| LaserJock | yes, most of the time | 01:03 |
| crimsun | 'k, cos you could just enable irssi's proxy and connect to your home pc | 01:04 |
| LaserJock | I usually use irrsi on my mac at work | 01:04 |
| LaserJock | I'm wanting to work on a gnome project, but I'm not sure how to go about it | 01:06 |
| LaserJock | it seems I need gnome-common from CVS | 01:07 |
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| crimsun | jeepers, the wesnoth orig.tar.gz is 70+ MB | 01:26 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: lol, I'm just downloading the OS X version | 01:34 |
| crimsun | I was wondering why dput /seemed/ to be spinning | 01:35 |
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| cbx33 | hi guys | 01:48 |
| cbx33 | and REVU admins here at the mo? | 01:48 |
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| bluefoxicy | :( | 02:22 |
| bluefoxicy | anjuta can't create a new project :( | 02:22 |
| crimsun | dapper? | 02:23 |
| bluefoxicy | edgy | 02:23 |
| crimsun | isn't it the 2.x branch? | 02:24 |
| bluefoxicy | 2.0.2 yeah | 02:24 |
| bluefoxicy | I wanted to use it to get autoconf stuff | 02:25 |
| bluefoxicy | since I honestly have no idea how to set up an autoconf thing | 02:26 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 02:29 |
| LaserJock | hi bddebian | 02:30 |
| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 02:30 |
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| Hobbsee | morning all | 03:10 |
| zul | hey Hobbsee | 03:15 |
| Hobbsee | zul: :) | 03:16 |
| crimsun | hmm, I concur w/ mdz's intent, but my paranoia really sides with kamion and keybuk | 03:21 |
| ajmitch | hi | 03:22 |
| crimsun | 'lo | 03:22 |
| zul | hmmm... | 03:23 |
| zul | hey ajmitch | 03:23 |
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| bddebian | crimsun: :-) | 03:40 |
| bddebian | Heya ajmitch, zul | 03:41 |
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| bluefoxicy | Naughty girl programmers fill their uninitialized memory with 0x1badbabe | 03:49 |
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| bddebian | WTF? | 03:49 |
| Laser_away | what? | 03:50 |
| bddebian | Laser_away: bluefoxicy's comment :-) | 03:50 |
| Laser_away | oh, I thought you were commenting on my quite-join-away fun | 03:50 |
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| bddebian | Nah :-) | 03:50 |
| bluefoxicy | heh, it's valid hex. | 03:51 |
| bddebian | Aye, like deadbeef :-) | 03:52 |
| mukund | b00bface | 03:54 |
| zul | mmmmmm...boobs | 03:54 |
| bddebian | haha | 03:54 |
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| zul | sorry i should watch myself better | 04:00 |
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| imbrandon | any experinced motu arround that has a few minutes ? i got some weird makefile voodoo hapening on a merge | 04:53 |
| bddebian | Well I'm around but I'm not sure I would say I am "experienced" :-) | 04:54 |
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| bddebian | FunnyLookinHat: As you should be... | 04:56 |
| FunnyLookinHat | ;) | 04:56 |
| bddebian | :-) | 04:57 |
| bddebian | imbrandon: So what is the issue? | 05:04 |
| imbrandon | sorry was in another chan till i got hilighted | 05:04 |
| imbrandon | ummm its a ftbs on helix-player using the debian source | 05:04 |
| imbrandon | its on MoM but | 05:04 |
| bddebian | What's the error? | 05:05 |
| imbrandon | only needs the *.mo files deleted to be merged but FTBS with a strange error about python i havent seen | 05:05 |
| imbrandon | hold on lemme try to rebuild and i'll pastebin it | 05:05 |
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| phanatic | morning | 05:23 |
| bddebian | Heya phanatic | 05:23 |
| phanatic | heya bddebian | 05:23 |
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| bddebian | wb LaserJock | 06:02 |
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| LaserJock | hi bddebian | 06:10 |
| bddebian | I sent maxima up and crossed my fingers :-) | 06:11 |
| bluefoxicy | damn | 06:11 |
| bluefoxicy | there are 5 icons in my notification tray | 06:12 |
| bddebian | Though I wish I had a PPC box to figure out WTF is up with gcl | 06:12 |
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| LaserJock | bddebian: hmm | 06:21 |
| LaserJock | my mac isn't even a ppc :( | 06:21 |
| LaserJock | I can't help | 06:21 |
| bddebian | POS :-) | 06:21 |
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| bddebian | Gnight folks | 06:52 |
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| Sp4rKy | hi | 07:16 |
| Sp4rKy | please what's the current depend which replace xlibs-dev ? | 07:16 |
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| cbx33 | hi raphink | 07:31 |
| cbx33 | thanks for the help earlier, flushing the revu queue :D | 07:32 |
| raphink | hi cbx33 | 07:32 |
| raphink | hmmm ... sure :)p | 07:32 |
| raphink | ) | 07:32 |
| raphink | :) | 07:32 |
| cbx33 | heh | 07:33 |
| cbx33 | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2684 | 07:33 |
| === raphink just feels like going back to bed now | ||
| === cbx33 too | ||
| cbx33 | I've had hmm 5 hours sleep | 07:33 |
| raphink | about the same here | 07:34 |
| cbx33 | yup, get that about every night at the moment | 07:34 |
| crimsun | Sp4rKy: do you mean build-depends? | 07:34 |
| cbx33 | I can't believe I finally got my package into REVU | 07:35 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 07:35 |
| raphink | great :) | 07:36 |
| raphink | cbx33: what does it do? | 07:37 |
| cbx33 | it mounts isos as virtual devices in a nice GUI | 07:37 |
| cbx33 | just really simeple mount -o loop stuff | 07:37 |
| raphink | ok | 07:37 |
| cbx33 | but has some other cool features | 07:37 |
| raphink | gtk ;) | 07:37 |
| cbx33 | yup | 07:37 |
| raphink | like what? | 07:37 |
| cbx33 | like reading of all vloume information flags | 07:37 |
| jsgotangco | hmm you haven't been sleeping cbx33? | 07:38 |
| cbx33 | and has some quick buttons to md5sum,burn,browse the iso | 07:38 |
| jsgotangco | or just woke up =) | 07:38 |
| cbx33 | jsgotangco, about 5 hours | 07:38 |
| jsgotangco | ugghh | 07:38 |
| cbx33 | I think it's gonna be useful | 07:38 |
| raphink | cbx33: it's useful to sleep, I can tell | 07:39 |
| raphink | :s | 07:39 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 07:40 |
| Sp4rKy | crimsun, yes | 07:40 |
| Sp4rKy | raphink, i have been accepted like Ubuntu Member :D | 07:40 |
| raphink | Sp4rKy: great :) | 07:40 |
| raphink | i'm happy for you | 07:40 |
| Sp4rKy | thx | 07:41 |
| cbx33 | congrats Sp4rKy | 07:41 |
| Sp4rKy | i'm very happy too | 07:41 |
| Sp4rKy | thx cbx33 | 07:41 |
| cbx33 | right I'm off to make lunch | 07:41 |
| === raphink remembers the time when he became part of the ubuntu family, too ;) | ||
| cbx33 | and breakfast | 07:41 |
| raphink | k | 07:41 |
| crimsun | Sp4rKy: libx11-dev is the basic one; you'll need to be more precise in adding the modular X.Org dependencies. | 07:41 |
| cbx33 | raphink, yeh mine was only about a few months ago | 07:41 |
| Sp4rKy | crimsun, k, thx | 07:42 |
| raphink | cbx33: what have you been doing in Ubuntu so far? | 07:42 |
| cbx33 | raphink, I work a lot on edubuntu | 07:43 |
| phanatic | Sp4rKy: congrats :) | 07:43 |
| raphink | what part? | 07:43 |
| phanatic | hey raphink :) | 07:43 |
| raphink | hi phanatic | 07:43 |
| cbx33 | did a lot of the late cd iso testing, wrote the ltsp man pages, the edubuntu school advocacy, some bug fixing, | 07:44 |
| raphink | great :) | 07:44 |
| cbx33 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PeteSavage | 07:44 |
| cbx33 | wrote quite a few wiki pages too | 07:44 |
| cbx33 | about PXE and integrationg with the dreaded windows | 07:44 |
| raphink | ah you've been reviewing the packaging guide, too | 07:45 |
| cbx33 | yes I think I was the initial guinea pig when Jordan first put it al together :p | 07:45 |
| raphink | oooh and working on AD integration, too | 07:45 |
| raphink | very useful | 07:45 |
| cbx33 | I'm trying | 07:45 |
| cbx33 | the AD integration I have almost nailed.... | 07:45 |
| cbx33 | well no I lie | 07:45 |
| cbx33 | AD integration works | 07:46 |
| raphink | is there also a project to integrate with RH/Fedora Directory? | 07:46 |
| cbx33 | it's just the mounting of home dirs | 07:46 |
| cbx33 | that doesn't | 07:46 |
| raphink | ok | 07:46 |
| raphink | how well does it work? | 07:46 |
| cbx33 | the authentication works great | 07:46 |
| raphink | what is possible with it so far? | 07:46 |
| cbx33 | logging on to an ltsp client whilst authenticating against a windows domain | 07:46 |
| cbx33 | but I believe this is also being tackled in a SoC project | 07:47 |
| raphink | ok | 07:47 |
| cbx33 | it was the mounting of their home dir on a winodws server I wanted | 07:47 |
| raphink | ic | 07:47 |
| cbx33 | seeing as the school I work at uses predominantly windows machines | 07:47 |
| raphink | :s | 07:47 |
| cbx33 | and I wanted to integrate edubuntu into it | 07:47 |
| raphink | well even when you have a majority of linux machines | 07:48 |
| raphink | sadly enough | 07:48 |
| cbx33 | most issues are solvable | 07:48 |
| raphink | you have to use the AD | 07:48 |
| cbx33 | yup | 07:48 |
| raphink | because the few Windows machines won't understand anything else | 07:48 |
| raphink | so they force the whole bunch of machines to use it | 07:48 |
| cbx33 | I just relaly believe that if edubuntu can just be almost plug ad play in a windows network, we'll make much more of a splash | 07:48 |
| raphink | sure :) | 07:48 |
| raphink | or just ubuntu in general ;) | 07:49 |
| cbx33 | well sure | 07:49 |
| Sp4rKy | crimsun, when ./configure says "checking for X... no | 07:49 |
| Sp4rKy | Sorry, X is very much needed | 07:49 |
| Sp4rKy | " | 07:49 |
| raphink | integrating in a windows network is really important for companies to progressively switch | 07:49 |
| jsgotangco | would be nice in a migration mindset but what happens after migration? | 07:49 |
| Sp4rKy | what library need i add ? | 07:49 |
| cbx33 | yes | 07:49 |
| cbx33 | jsgotangco, they will have seen the light | 07:49 |
| raphink | huhu | 07:49 |
| jsgotangco | cbx33: that's not enough really | 07:49 |
| raphink | cbx33: good to have hope | 07:49 |
| raphink | ;) | 07:49 |
| cbx33 | jsgotangco, I was kidding :p | 07:49 |
| raphink | in my company, we have 90% linux machines | 07:50 |
| cbx33 | nice | 07:50 |
| jsgotangco | same here | 07:50 |
| raphink | but the bosses want to switch everything to windows | 07:50 |
| cbx33 | I already have put linux servers in at the school | 07:50 |
| jsgotangco | aghhh | 07:50 |
| cbx33 | noooooooooooo | 07:50 |
| raphink | keep the servers on linux because windows coudln't deal with it | 07:50 |
| raphink | and switch all the desktops to windows | 07:50 |
| raphink | so we'rejust refusing everything | 07:50 |
| cbx33 | raphink, that would eat me up inside | 07:50 |
| Sp4rKy | raphink, just kill the boss | 07:50 |
| raphink | if we accept their AD, we accept their windows "distribution" | 07:50 |
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| raphink | Sp4rKy: kill the boss of one of the biggest companies in the world ? ;) | 07:51 |
| raphink | not the greatest idea ;) | 07:51 |
| Sp4rKy | raphink, why not :) | 07:51 |
| cbx33 | raphink, what company you work for? | 07:51 |
| jsgotangco | if we kill the boss, we'll have to find new employment for raphink | 07:51 |
| raphink | cbx33: France Tlcom/Wanadoo/Orange | 07:51 |
| cbx33 | well I really have to go :( - it's been great talking to you and if anyone gets a chance :p - http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2684 | 07:51 |
| raphink | quite everybody in this company work on Windows from what I've heard | 07:51 |
| raphink | except people in my location | 07:51 |
| Sp4rKy | raphink, put up an Ubuntu distribution with WIndows theme :D | 07:51 |
| raphink | who are still pretty free to work on whatever they want, so far | 07:52 |
| jsgotangco | well wanadoo is pretty big | 07:52 |
| raphink | jsgotangco: wanadoo doesn't exist anymore. It's called Orange now :) | 07:52 |
| raphink | it's become part of Orange that is | 07:52 |
| jsgotangco | ahhh | 07:52 |
| jsgotangco | but i remember having a wanadoo hostname in france... | 07:53 |
| raphink | sure | 07:53 |
| raphink | :) | 07:53 |
| raphink | the switch wanadoo->orange took place last month | 07:53 |
| raphink | in France+UK | 07:53 |
| raphink | and next month in NL I think | 07:53 |
| raphink | and other countries should come next | 07:53 |
| raphink | some of my colleagues have said they will leave the company if they have to work on windows | 07:54 |
| raphink | which I think might be my case too | 07:54 |
| raphink | I wouldn't accept to work on packaging/conf deployment for Debian without having a Debian/Ubuntu destkop | 07:54 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 07:54 |
| raphink | it's like trying to eat soup with a fork | 07:55 |
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| cbx33 | I used to have a wanadoo internet account | 08:03 |
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| raphink | cbx33: I used to, aswell, long time ago ;) | 08:03 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 08:03 |
| raphink | wouldn't get one today ;) | 08:04 |
| cbx33 | nope | 08:04 |
| === cbx33 has 8Mb BB now and wouldn't switch away for anything lower | ||
| raphink | cbx33 has 23Mb BB now and wouldn't let wanadoo make it lower ;) | 08:04 |
| raphink | oops | 08:04 |
| raphink | s/cbx33/raphink/ | 08:04 |
| raphink | I guess I'm tired | 08:05 |
| raphink | :s | 08:05 |
| raphink | let's go take a shower and try to wake up a bit ;) | 08:05 |
| cbx33 | yeh i may be able to get 24Mb in august | 08:05 |
| raphink | great :) | 08:05 |
| cbx33 | right yup I'mm off too | 08:05 |
| raphink | :) | 08:06 |
| cbx33 | gotta say goodbye to he missus before i go to work | 08:06 |
| raphink | hehe | 08:06 |
| cbx33 | still sleeping bless her | 08:06 |
| raphink | hehe :) | 08:19 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 08:21 |
| raphink | hallo dholbach | 08:21 |
| imbrandon | moins dholbach | 08:21 |
| raphink | wie geht es dir heute? | 08:21 |
| imbrandon | anyone know when they will start to process the backport requests ? | 08:21 |
| dholbach | raphink: gut geht's mir! comment a va? | 08:21 |
| dholbach | hey raphink, imbrandon | 08:21 |
| dholbach | imbrandon: you have to file bugs for that | 08:22 |
| imbrandon | dholbach, i did | 08:22 |
| raphink | bien merci dholbach :) | 08:22 |
| dholbach | imbrandon: ah ok - did you subscribe the backporters team? | 08:22 |
| imbrandon | dholbach, i think so , can you look it over and make sure i did it correct | 08:23 |
| imbrandon | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kbfx/+bug/52343 | 08:23 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 52343 in kbfx "[ backport ] kbfx 0.4.9.1+0.4.9.2rc1 from edgy to dapper-backports" [Untriaged,Confirmed] | 08:23 |
| crimsun | imbrandon: when we get confirmation that the soyuz backend is ready, we'll begin. | 08:23 |
| imbrandon | reason i ask is i was just helping someon with kbfx in dapper and that fixes the bug he was having | 08:23 |
| imbrandon | crimsun, cool | 08:23 |
| dholbach | hmmmmm, coffee | 08:24 |
| imbrandon | crimsun, dont mean to be a pita or a newb but any eta on that ? or just purely a guess ? dont worry i wont hold ya too it ;) | 08:24 |
| crimsun | gar, not another dash/bash issue | 08:24 |
| crimsun | imbrandon: no idea, and it's beyond our [ubuntu-backport's] control. | 08:25 |
| imbrandon | cool ok , thanks though ;) | 08:25 |
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| Gloubiboulga | hello world | 09:46 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all | 10:29 |
| \sh | moins | 10:32 |
| dholbach | Easier MOTUing! :-) | 10:32 |
| Hobbsee | hey dholbach | 10:32 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: what about it? | 10:33 |
| dholbach | it's time to kick it off! | 10:33 |
| Gloubiboulga | YES :) | 10:33 |
| dholbach | just set a mail to the list | 10:33 |
| jsgotangco | now? | 10:33 |
| === jsgotangco checks email | ||
| Hobbsee | dholbach: which list? motu list? | 10:34 |
| === Hobbsee should get off the digest of that. | ||
| dholbach | yeah | 10:34 |
| jsgotangco | reviving the motu school is a big +1 | 10:35 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-July/000734.html if you need it. | 10:35 |
| dholbach | jsgotangco: MOTU/School/Requests | 10:37 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: thanks | 10:38 |
| === StevenK isn't even subscribed to -motu. | ||
| Hobbsee | silly StevenK :P | 10:39 |
| Hobbsee | there's useful stuff there | 10:39 |
| Gloubiboulga | is there a problem with the wiki? | 10:40 |
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| Gloubiboulga | https://wiki.u.c is empty for me :( | 10:40 |
| jsgotangco | doh! LP is acting up | 10:40 |
| jsgotangco | The authentication database is temporarily unavailable. Anonymous access only. | 10:41 |
| Gloubiboulga | ah yes | 10:41 |
| === dholbach quickly saves wiki page locally | ||
| dholbach | *phew* | 10:41 |
| Seveas | Gloubiboulga, it's just dead-slow | 10:41 |
| jsgotangco | lol | 10:41 |
| dholbach | I'd be happy if you could add yourself to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Mentors | 10:42 |
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| Gloubiboulga | Seveas, yes... | 10:42 |
| Seveas | it's solved already | 10:42 |
| Seveas | well, sort-of | 10:42 |
| Seveas | still slow, but I appear to be logged in | 10:42 |
| dholbach | and add ideas to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/Requests | 10:42 |
| Seveas | dholbach, you wanted a bot? | 10:42 |
| jsgotangco | ahh there | 10:42 |
| jsgotangco | its back | 10:42 |
| === dholbach Easier MOTUing | ||
| dholbach | Seveas: oh... we didn't add that bit to the spec | 10:43 |
| Seveas | dholbach, I just read your mail | 10:43 |
| dholbach | Seveas: somebody brought up the idea to try to make use of a bot for frequently asked questions in motu land | 10:43 |
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| Seveas | dholbach, well, it's here | 10:43 |
| dholbach | Ubugtu: @tell dholbach about merging .... or something | 10:43 |
| dholbach | :-p | 10:44 |
| Seveas | Do you want a completely separate database for questions? | 10:44 |
| dholbach | dunno if it has to be separate | 10:44 |
| dholbach | not sure if that makes sense | 10:44 |
| Seveas | %config channel plugins.encyclopedia.database ubuntu | 10:44 |
| ubotu | OK | 10:44 |
| dholbach | Seveas: if we collect sort of a FAQ on a wiki page, is it easy for you to feed it to the bot's brain? | 10:45 |
| Seveas | sure | 10:45 |
| dholbach | super :) | 10:45 |
| dholbach | ubotu: you're hired! | 10:45 |
| ubotu | I know nothing about you're hired! | 10:45 |
| dholbach | hahaha | 10:45 |
| dholbach | ubotu: you don't know what will hit you :) | 10:45 |
| ubotu | I know nothing about you don't know what will hit you :) | 10:45 |
| Seveas | !ubotu > dholbach | 10:46 |
| imbrandon | !bot | 10:46 |
| ubotu | I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage | 10:46 |
| imbrandon | Seveas, same factoids about everywhere else ? | 10:46 |
| dholbach | rock on | 10:46 |
| Seveas | imbrandon, yes | 10:46 |
| imbrandon | good good | 10:46 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 10:46 |
| imbrandon | dholbach, " !tell so_and_so about <fact> " works too ;) | 10:47 |
| Seveas | imbrandon, !fact > persion is shorter | 10:48 |
| dholbach | imbrandon, Seveas: thanks a lot | 10:48 |
| imbrandon | Seveas, yea but i always end up typing !name < fact | 10:48 |
| imbrandon | can you make both work ? | 10:48 |
| \sh | !tell me how to brew coffee with ubuntu dapper | 10:48 |
| ubotu | I know nothing about tell me how to brew coffee with ubuntu dapper | 10:48 |
| \sh | hmmm...we need to know ;) | 10:48 |
| Seveas | imbrandon, would mean quite a bit of code duplication or making a regex that is already insane super insane | 10:49 |
| Seveas | so it can be done, but I prefer not to | 10:49 |
| imbrandon | hehe np , was just a thought , no biggie | 10:49 |
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| dholbach | if we could get cracking on the wiki (CategoryMOTU), I think that'd be a good first step | 10:50 |
| imbrandon | what would be nice is instead of "I know nothing about ....." be like "<blah> : not in database , try searching http://wiki.ubuntu.com " to stop all the !something_silly_here in -offtopic chans | 10:51 |
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| === imbrandon pokes Seveas incase you went to another chan lookup ^^ hehe | ||
| imbrandon | dholbach, what needs to be done ( on the wiki that is ) | 10:54 |
| imbrandon | just general cleanup ? | 10:54 |
| dholbach | clean up, chuck out pages that are stale, move pages to namespaces as we outlined them in http://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasierMotuing | 10:54 |
| dholbach | i know that it's quite some work, but if we all pick a page it should be done in no time :) | 10:55 |
| imbrandon | ahh okie, i have nothing better to do atm, i'll see what i can help with ;) | 10:55 |
| imbrandon | is there a way for me to display all "CategoryMOTU" pages ? | 10:55 |
| dholbach | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryMOTU | 10:55 |
| Seveas | !imbrandon | 10:55 |
| ubotu | I know nothing about imbrandon - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com | 10:55 |
| imbrandon | nice Seveas ;) | 10:56 |
| imbrandon | !fast cars and slow women | 10:56 |
| ubotu | I know nothing about fast cars and slow women - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com | 10:56 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 10:56 |
| imbrandon | dumb question but are the debain/changelogs installed somewhere on the computer when a package is installed ? | 10:58 |
| dholbach | /usr/share/doc/<package>/changelog.Debian.gz | 10:58 |
| Seveas | but only if you use dh_installchangelogs | 10:59 |
| imbrandon | ahh | 10:59 |
| imbrandon | so most packages wont have this ( unless its part of cdbs ) ? | 11:00 |
| imbrandon | erm that made no sense , nvm | 11:00 |
| dholbach | imbrandon: most packages do it :) | 11:01 |
| Seveas | and I'm pretty sure cdbs does it too | 11:02 |
| === Hobbsee doestn remember, even though she modified part of cdbs. | ||
| crimsun | a package without a Debian changelog is worth filing a serious bug on | 11:05 |
| Gloubiboulga | is there a way to suscribe to all the MOTU/ wiki pages in one shot? | 11:05 |
| Seveas | Gloubiboulga, yes | 11:05 |
| Seveas | in your profilepage | 11:05 |
| Seveas | regex-based subscriptions are very useful | 11:06 |
| StevenK | I thought it was wildcarded? | 11:06 |
| Gloubiboulga | thanks Seveas | 11:07 |
| siretart | uuh, busy wiki traffik here.. | 11:07 |
| dholbach | if somebody could revamp wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU - that'd be awesome | 11:11 |
| dholbach | i feel it's a bit clattered and could be a bit more inviting | 11:12 |
| dholbach | but maybe I'm the only one with that feeling :) | 11:12 |
| crimsun | iubuntu-artwork (29) looks interesting. | 11:14 |
| dholbach | ug | 11:14 |
| Seveas | speaking of which: what are the chances that a feace browser gdm theme will be added for edgy? | 11:14 |
| imbrandon | iubuntu ? | 11:15 |
| jsgotangco | hehehe | 11:15 |
| dholbach | crimsun: thank god it was not the changelog entry for the recent upload :) | 11:15 |
| jsgotangco | yeah i noticed that oo | 11:15 |
| imbrandon | Seveas, +1 ( and for kdm too ) | 11:15 |
| crimsun | dholbach: :) | 11:15 |
| dholbach | Seveas: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com | 11:15 |
| dholbach | Seveas: that's the best guess for that question | 11:15 |
| Seveas | dholbach, the theme is there already | 11:15 |
| Seveas | I had it prepared for jdub for dapper months ago... | 11:16 |
| dholbach | i think decisions will be taken there | 11:16 |
| imbrandon | even if it was just included and not default i would be happy | 11:16 |
| === imbrandon had to get one from kde-look.org | ||
| imbrandon | zouch /MOTU is kinda ugly , hrm | 11:17 |
| dholbach | i'm happy to see we get more MOTU/Mentors | 11:18 |
| === Hobbsee wouldnt want to mentorl | ||
| imbrandon | montors? heh i just poke anyone ;) | 11:18 |
| === Hobbsee is no good at mentoring from scratch | ||
| imbrandon | mentors* | 11:18 |
| slomo_ | dholbach: done ;) | 11:19 |
| dholbach | the MOTU Mentors are more about helping people to get in touch with the team | 11:19 |
| imbrandon | i guess crimsun+dholbach+ajmitch+riddell+bddebian qualify as my mentors ;) | 11:19 |
| dholbach | to help them feel comfortable with the lists, with the irc channel, guide them to talk to the right people | 11:19 |
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| dholbach | we should be able to point them to FAQ or something else - not necessarily tell them how to use simple-patchsys.mk or whatever :) | 11:20 |
| imbrandon | ahh by that name i thought more of a teach how to package one on one | 11:20 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 11:20 |
| Hobbsee | oh grrr! why doesnt this patch like me? | 11:20 |
| imbrandon | dholbach, yea mentors in that sense is great ( i just use -motu as a mentor lol ) | 11:21 |
| imbrandon | but i see what you mean about someon coming from the outside | 11:21 |
| raphink | dholbach: I saw you just added MOTU/School to the MOTU main page. Just wondering: is there any more conf planned ? | 11:21 |
| dholbach | yeah, some people might feel intimidated by the whole lot of processes and people | 11:21 |
| dholbach | raphink: absolutely | 11:21 |
| raphink | what/where? | 11:22 |
| dholbach | raphink: we have to establish the processes for this and make sure we get some more sessions - i think that 15-20 minutes of talking and some demo or discussion afterwards qualifies perfectly as a motu school session | 11:22 |
| === imbrandon is still intidated at times but gets past it to learn , cuz if i learn it i can later tell someone else and take the load off crimsun+you and crew ;) | ||
| imbrandon | intimidated* | 11:22 |
| raphink | sure dholbach :) | 11:22 |
| dholbach | raphink: we are still planning | 11:23 |
| raphink | ok | 11:23 |
| raphink | I'd like to sign up as a mentor | 11:23 |
| raphink | is it just about putting my name on the wiki page? | 11:23 |
| dholbach | raphink: yep | 11:23 |
| raphink | or is there an LP group or so? | 11:23 |
| dholbach | no, not yet, and I'm not sure there is need for that yet | 11:24 |
| raphink | ok | 11:24 |
| dholbach | if you disagree we could add that to MOTU/Mentors/Discussion | 11:24 |
| === imbrandon would love to sit in on some motu-school classes too when they get going | ||
| raphink | :) | 11:25 |
| imbrandon | oh btw raphink your a revu hacker / admin right ? | 11:25 |
| raphink | I'd be happy to give a talk if you need me some time dholbach :) | 11:25 |
| raphink | yes imbrandon | 11:26 |
| dholbach | raphink: excelltn | 11:26 |
| raphink | mooooh bad me, I can't edit a wiki page properly | 11:26 |
| raphink | lol | 11:26 |
| imbrandon | raphink, i got a question, i have the same key for two email address and one i login with ( brandon@imbrandon.com and one i sign packages with imbrandon@kubuntu.org ) but i cant make comments on packages i upload on revu ;( | 11:27 |
| imbrandon | know a solution ? | 11:27 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: ah yes, that | 11:27 |
| sivang | raphink: are we talking about virtual or physical school here? ;) | 11:27 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: which email do you use the sign the packages with? and in the changelogs? | 11:27 |
| raphink | virtual sivang, unless you have a place for us to teach at, and students to move there ;) | 11:27 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 11:27 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, imbrandon@kubuntu.org | 11:27 |
| sivang | raphink: I wish :) I say we choose the french riviera ! | 11:28 |
| raphink | imbrandon: your login is and will be the one you used the first time you uploaded | 11:28 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: okay, use that email to sign into revu with, and use the recover password to get the p/w for it | 11:28 |
| raphink | you can't use the kubuntu.org email to log in | 11:28 |
| Hobbsee | seeing as it's different to the original one | 11:28 |
| dholbach | i added wiki.ubuntu.com/EasierMotuing/Discussion to see where we stand or discuss problems | 11:28 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: you cant? | 11:28 |
| imbrandon | raphink, when i started uploading i used brandon@imbrandon.com but not anylonger ;( | 11:28 |
| raphink | Hobbsee: no, the account is created only once, with the first add you use, iirc | 11:28 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: you can sign in with any of the email addresses added to your key. | 11:29 |
| Hobbsee | as long as the key has been uploaded | 11:29 |
| imbrandon | raphink, but its the same gpg key for both | 11:29 |
| imbrandon | right | 11:29 |
| raphink | ah ok | 11:29 |
| raphink | :s | 11:29 |
| imbrandon | see what i mean | 11:29 |
| Hobbsee | oh good, i wont have to have an argument with you then raphink :P | 11:29 |
| raphink | I still log in with the email add I first used | 11:29 |
| imbrandon | i have 2 email addresses with my gpg key, one i used to upload long ago and that my account now i use @kubuntu.org to upload with the same gpg key ) | 11:30 |
| raphink | didnt even try to log in with my ubuntu.com add | 11:30 |
| raphink | btw, who gives kubuntu.org addresses ? | 11:30 |
| raphink | I don't remember to have one :s | 11:30 |
| StevenK | The Kubuntu CC? | 11:30 |
| raphink | hmm :) | 11:31 |
| imbrandon | kubuntu community council ;') | 11:31 |
| imbrandon | you just need to be on the kubuntu-members on LP then LP id@kubuntu.ortg works | 11:31 |
| === StevenK jumps on Hobbsee. | ||
| === Hobbsee stomps StevenK | ||
| StevenK | That takes talent, when I'm on top of you. | 11:31 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: we dont give them out, per se - i think riddell does | 11:31 |
| imbrandon | lol | 11:32 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: i have many talents :P | 11:32 |
| seaLne | anyone know anything about stack protection in gcc 4.1? | 11:32 |
| === Hobbsee can poke hard, too. | ||
| raphink | imbrandon: so that means I do have a @kubuntu.org add, and just don't know it yet ;) | 11:32 |
| === Mithrandir tickles Hobbsee | ||
| Mithrandir | (and then runs away) | 11:32 |
| StevenK | My rib cage can attest to that. | 11:32 |
| imbrandon | raphink, if your a member of kubuntu-members on LP then lp_id@kubuntu.org will automaticly forward to your primary LP email | 11:32 |
| raphink | imbrandon: I'm part of the kubuntu cc, so I better be part of the gruop | 11:33 |
| imbrandon | hehehe | 11:33 |
| StevenK | Hah | 11:33 |
| seaLne | yeah i got round to testing mine yesterday :) | 11:33 |
| === Hobbsee stomps on Mithrandir's foot, and tickles him in return | ||
| Hobbsee | StevenK: hehe! | 11:33 |
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| Hobbsee | raphink: hehe | 11:33 |
| raphink | ah well the email works :) good to know :) | 11:33 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: too late. | 11:33 |
| imbrandon | raphink, yea i think i'm the only person in the world that actualy uses his @kubuntu.org email ;) | 11:33 |
| === Hobbsee uses it | ||
| imbrandon | hehe well Hobbsee too ;) | 11:33 |
| === Hobbsee signs with @ubuntu.com though | ||
| raphink | I might begin to use it now :) | 11:33 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, i dont have @ubuntu.com ;( | 11:33 |
| raphink | I mostly use my ubuntu.com add though | 11:33 |
| StevenK | I don't use my @u.c address. | 11:34 |
| === Hobbsee got both :) | ||
| StevenK | I do use it for signing. | 11:34 |
| raphink | imbrandon: how come? you should have one if you're a member | 11:34 |
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| seaLne | can you just add extra addresses to your gpg key or are they not truested? | 11:34 |
| imbrandon | heh LP says i'm indirectly a member of ubuntu-members becouse of kubuntu-membership but @ubuntu.com dont work for me | 11:34 |
| imbrandon | ;( | 11:34 |
| StevenK | seaLne: You can. | 11:34 |
| seaLne | imbrandon: works for me | 11:34 |
| imbrandon | seaLne, you can add as many as you like | 11:35 |
| raphink | imbrandon: @ubuntu.com addressees are created manually iirc | 11:35 |
| StevenK | raphink: They so aren't. | 11:35 |
| imbrandon | raphink, ahh whom do i poke ? | 11:35 |
| raphink | StevenK: not anymore you mean? | 11:35 |
| seaLne | they should work the same as k.o | 11:35 |
| raphink | ah ok :) | 11:35 |
| raphink | except for indirect members it seems | 11:35 |
| StevenK | They weren't when I became a member. | 11:35 |
| imbrandon | yea i think members of ubuntumembers on LP get @ubuntu.com | 11:35 |
| raphink | ok | 11:36 |
| imbrandon | but see i got membership through kcc not cc so i think my @ubuntu stuff got skipped ;) | 11:36 |
| zakame | hi all | 11:36 |
| === imbrandon isnt sure how all that works | ||
| imbrandon | heya zakame | 11:36 |
| zakame | heya imbrandon ! | 11:36 |
| seaLne | imbrandon: you've tried and it dosen't work? | 11:37 |
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| zakame | hmm merges.ubuntu.com down? | 11:37 |
| StevenK | I was wondering if there was someone who is a kubuntu member, and not a ubuntu member. | 11:37 |
| imbrandon | seaLne, yea a long time ago, lemme try again real fast , well infact seaLne got a sec, shoot a mail to imbrandon@ubuntu.com | 11:37 |
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| imbrandon | StevenK, me technicly but not supose to be | 11:37 |
| StevenK | zakame: elmo seems to be having fun with chinstrap and LP machines, so merges.u.c may also be affected. | 11:38 |
| seaLne | imbrandon: sent | 11:38 |
| zakame | StevenK: ah, well, lemme just deal with syncs then :) | 11:38 |
| sivang | StevenK: what sort of fun? :) | 11:38 |
| imbrandon | StevenK, i got membership from kcc but never got added to the ubuntumembers on LP only kubuntu-members but it says i'm indirectly a member of ubuntumember blah blah blah | 11:39 |
| imbrandon | ok seaLne checking | 11:39 |
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| imbrandon | w00t seaLne guess it does work i got it ;) lol | 11:40 |
| imbrandon | guess when i checked long ago it must have just gotten filtered out | 11:41 |
| seaLne | hmm now my gpg key thinks @ubuntu.com is the primary any idea how to change it? | 11:41 |
| imbrandon | seaLne, yea | 11:42 |
| imbrandon | one sec lemme check how i did it | 11:42 |
| imbrandon | gpg --edit-key <keyid> | 11:43 |
| imbrandon | then ... | 11:43 |
| imbrandon | type the number of the | 11:43 |
| imbrandon | one you want primary | 11:44 |
| imbrandon | like 1 or 2 | 11:44 |
| imbrandon | hit <enter> then type "primary" and <enter> | 11:44 |
| imbrandon | should change it | 11:44 |
| imbrandon | probbly wanna change the trust to ultimate on your own key too if it isnt | 11:45 |
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| imbrandon | dholbach, whats ExpandingUniverse ? | 11:54 |
| imbrandon | the wiki link is dead | 11:54 |
| dholbach | imbrandon: drop it then, it was a spec for breezy | 11:55 |
| imbrandon | One of our release goals for EdgyEft is ExpandingUniverse and as a part of this, import all the good stuff from [WWW] http://apt-get.org | 11:55 |
| imbrandon | ^^ | 11:55 |
| dholbach | oh well | 11:55 |
| imbrandon | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Tasks/AptGetOrg | 11:55 |
| dholbach | I'll 'unlink' it then :) | 11:55 |
| tseng | :/ apt-get.org | 11:55 |
| dholbach | yeah, thanks for telling me | 11:55 |
| imbrandon | np , i was just looking at it and like huh? | 11:55 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 11:55 |
| imbrandon | i got there from /MOTU/Tasks | 11:56 |
| seaLne | dholbach: do you happen to know anything about stack protection in the new gcc? its causing problems for afflib that i'm trying to package | 11:56 |
| dholbach | ye thanks | 11:56 |
| dholbach | seaLne: not at all - you might want to ask doko | 11:56 |
| dholbach | imbrandon: um | 11:57 |
| dholbach | imbrandon: you dropped the complete page? :) | 11:57 |
| seaLne | dholbach: ta | 11:57 |
| dholbach | *whine* | 11:57 |
| imbrandon | no | 11:57 |
| dholbach | uh hum | 11:57 |
| imbrandon | i dident touch it, | 11:57 |
| dholbach | ah... typo | 11:57 |
| imbrandon | i just went and it wasent there | 11:57 |
| dholbach | nevermind :) | 11:57 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 11:57 |
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| Toadstool | hi everybody | 11:58 |
| imbrandon | moins Toadstool | 11:58 |
| zakame | heya Toadstool | 11:58 |
| Toadstool | hey imbrandon, zakame | 11:58 |
| seaLne | doko: i'm having some problems with a package due to stack protection in gcc are you able to help? | 12:01 |
| doko | seaLne: please either disable it, or ask pitti on #ubuntu-devel | 12:02 |
| seaLne | doko: ok | 12:04 |
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| pitti | hi | 12:05 |
| pitti | seaLne: you had a problem with SSP? | 12:05 |
| === dholbach hugs pitti :) | ||
| === pitti hugs dholbach | ||
| seaLne | pitti: yes http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2670 aimage fails and stracing shows it is due to SSP and afident aswell | 12:07 |
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| pitti | seaLne: fails during build or runtime? | 12:09 |
| === pitti builds afflib source | ||
| seaLne | pitti: afident: http://pastebin.ca/85944 aimage: http://pastebin.ca/85945 | 12:10 |
| seaLne | pitti: runtime | 12:10 |
| pitti | seaLne: erk, build-dep on emacs21? why is this necessary? | 12:10 |
| StevenK | Ow. | 12:10 |
| seaLne | tags, i was going to look at that | 12:10 |
| StevenK | That's as bad as webdvd, which Build-Depends on mozilla-browser. | 12:11 |
| pitti | seaLne: please drop emacs21 and linux-headers-2.6, it works fine without | 12:11 |
| seaLne | ok | 12:11 |
| pitti | seaLne: userspace apps must not rely on particular kernel headers | 12:11 |
| dholbach | StevenK: there's quite a lot build-depending on firefox-dev, etc (which pulls in firefox as well) :) | 12:11 |
| seaLne | you get an error about etags without emacs tho | 12:11 |
| StevenK | seaLne: ctags? | 12:12 |
| pitti | $ grep etags afflib_1.6.28-0ubuntu1_amd64.build | 12:12 |
| pitti | $ | 12:12 |
| StevenK | Why the hell do you need etags to build... | 12:12 |
| pitti | seaLne: hm, I don't | 12:12 |
| seaLne | sorry i can't quite remember | 12:12 |
| seaLne | i'll rebuild without those | 12:13 |
| StevenK | Perhaps etags is required at run-time, and not build-time? | 12:13 |
| pitti | $ /usr/bin/afident --help | 12:14 |
| pitti | Device parameters: | 12:14 |
| pitti | System Info: | 12:14 |
| pitti | MAC Addresses: | 12:14 |
| pitti | 00:06:4F:06:80:7C | 12:14 |
| pitti | SW* | 12:14 |
| pitti | 00:0F:EA:EA:28:B0 | 12:14 |
| pitti | SW* | 12:14 |
| pitti | seaLne: ^ this looks like a buffer overflow | 12:14 |
| pitti | seaLne: or improper termination | 12:14 |
| StevenK | SSP to the rescue again! | 12:14 |
| seaLne | ok so it is actually a problem, thats "good" i suppose :) | 12:15 |
| pitti | seaLne: I'm on amd64, and due to different memory layout I apparently don't get a corrupted stack | 12:15 |
| pitti | seaLne: yes :) | 12:15 |
| pitti | $ find -name afident | 12:16 |
| pitti | ./debian/afflib/usr/bin/afident | 12:16 |
| pitti | seaLne: hm, where is the source for that? | 12:16 |
| ajmitch | hi pitti | 12:17 |
| seaLne | pitti: afident is renamed from ident | 12:17 |
| pitti | seaLne: ok, happy debugging then :) | 12:18 |
| seaLne | pitti: thanks | 12:18 |
| pitti | seaLne: you're welcome :) | 12:18 |
| pitti | moin ajmitch | 12:18 |
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| siretart | !packaging | 12:21 |
| ubotu | The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources | 12:21 |
| siretart | cool :) | 12:21 |
| siretart | !Seveas++ | 12:21 |
| ubotu | I know nothing about Seveas++ - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com | 12:21 |
| ajmitch | hehe | 12:21 |
| siretart | ;) | 12:21 |
| ajmitch | !REVU | 12:21 |
| ubotu | REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU | 12:21 |
| ajmitch | great | 12:21 |
| === StevenK wonders if his wireless if he moves further away from the AP. | ||
| StevenK | Er, s/wireless/wireless will drop out/ | 12:25 |
| seaLne | err if you move far enough it will :) | 12:27 |
| StevenK | Shush. :-) | 12:27 |
| === Seveas pushes stevenk a bit further | ||
| === StevenK trips over. | ||
| StevenK | Oof. | 12:34 |
| ajmitch | now the dog will get you | 12:34 |
| === StevenK uses the book he is reading to fend it off. | ||
| ajmitch | amazing how much better wireless works here | 12:35 |
| ajmitch | I wonder if it was your AP, my card, or the combination of both | 12:36 |
| StevenK | I think my AP was somewhat to blame. | 12:36 |
| StevenK | It was still shocking the following day until I got the shits entirely, turned it off for 10 minutes and then plugged it back in again. | 12:37 |
| ajmitch | I had similar with a d-link in canberra | 12:37 |
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| Whoopie | Hi all! Where can I find a guide for the package version scheme? Is it right that if a package exists on ubuntu (but not on debian), its version is foo-1.0-0ubuntu1. Or is it foo-1.0-1ubuntu1? | 12:53 |
| dholbach | 0ubuntu1 is right | 12:57 |
| imbrandon | -0ubuntu1 if its not in debian , and the packaging guide is at help.ubuntu.com | 12:57 |
| dholbach | -1ubuntu1 means there was a -1 in debian and we did changes to it | 12:57 |
| imbrandon | !packagingguide | 12:57 |
| ubotu | The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources | 12:57 |
| imbrandon | ^^ there ;) | 12:57 |
| dholbach | seems like a paragraph about version numbers would be in order | 12:58 |
| imbrandon | probably not a bad idea if its not there alreadt | 12:58 |
| imbrandon | already* | 12:59 |
| dholbach | should we add that to MOTU/Documentation/TODO or to MOTU/FAQ or just add it to ubotu? | 12:59 |
| imbrandon | i would add it to TODO to be added to the package guild later ( and maybe faq also ) | 12:59 |
| imbrandon | then ubotu can point to those | 12:59 |
| imbrandon | guide* | 01:00 |
| dholbach | ok, who does it? ;) | 01:00 |
| imbrandon | the bot? | 01:00 |
| === dholbach adds it to wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation/TODO | ||
| imbrandon | ahh , i can ;) | 01:00 |
| dholbach | hum | 01:01 |
| imbrandon | then i need to go get ready for court ( grumbles about having to goto court today ) | 01:01 |
| dholbach | MOTU/Documentation/Todo doesn't look like a todo page | 01:01 |
| tseng | < elmo> LP is going down in 13 minutes, ETD is 10 mins | 01:01 |
| Whoopie | dholbach, imbrandon: thanks! | 01:01 |
| tseng | fyi | 01:01 |
| imbrandon | thanks tseng | 01:01 |
| imbrandon | hrm your right dholbach | 01:02 |
| imbrandon | looks kinda out of date too | 01:02 |
| imbrandon | ugh the MOTU wiki , is a mess, I guess I know what i'll be doing when i get home from court and the next few days ;) | 01:07 |
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| imbrandon | heh | 01:08 |
| imbrandon | ubotu, versioning is <reply> Ubuntu and Debian have slightly different package versioning schemes http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-scratch.html#id2528873 | 01:12 |
| imbrandon | !versioning | 01:12 |
| ubotu | I know nothing about versioning - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com | 01:12 |
| imbrandon | ubotu versioning is <reply> Ubuntu and Debian have slightly different package versioning schemes http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-scratch.html#id2528873 | 01:12 |
| imbrandon | ugh | 01:12 |
| === imbrandon pokes Seveas | ||
| imbrandon | %whoami | 01:13 |
| ubotu | imbrandon | 01:13 |
| siretart | imbrandon: you need to register at ubotu, see wiki/ubuntu-motu mailing list | 01:13 |
| imbrandon | %editors | 01:13 |
| ubotu | Seveas, gnomefreak, apokryphos, ompaul, thoreauputic, Hobbsee, Amaranth, bimberi, nalioth, Madpilot, LjL, Riddell, imbrandon, uniq | 01:13 |
| imbrandon | ^^ nope it sees me | 01:14 |
| imbrandon | hrm | 01:14 |
| siretart | are you athenticated? | 01:14 |
| Seveas | imbrandon: %whoami | 01:14 |
| imbrandon | yea | 01:14 |
| imbrandon | %whoami | 01:14 |
| ubotu | imbrandon | 01:14 |
| Seveas | did you get an error message? | 01:14 |
| imbrandon | nope | 01:14 |
| Seveas | odd | 01:15 |
| Seveas | ahh | 01:15 |
| Seveas | adding works only with !, not with nickname | 01:15 |
| imbrandon | ahh doh | 01:15 |
| Seveas | only displaying worls with nickname | 01:15 |
| imbrandon | !versioning is <reply> Ubuntu and Debian have slightly different package versioning schemes see for an explination http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-scratch.html#id2528873 | 01:15 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that | 01:15 |
| imbrandon | there we go | 01:15 |
| StevenK | What is ubotu? | 01:16 |
| StevenK | Blootbot? | 01:16 |
| Seveas | ubotu, tell StevenK about yourself | 01:16 |
| Seveas | StevenK, supybot | 01:16 |
| imbrandon | StevenK, a bot with factoids to help with FAQ's | 01:16 |
| imbrandon | its used in #ubuntu and #kubuntu alot and now here for motu hopefulls | 01:16 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: I figured that part out for myself. :-) | 01:16 |
| imbrandon | heheh | 01:16 |
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| imbrandon | !packageversions is <alias> versioning | 01:17 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that | 01:17 |
| imbrandon | !packageversions | 01:17 |
| ubotu | Ubuntu and Debian have slightly different package versioning schemes see for an explination http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-scratch.html#id2528873 | 01:17 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 01:17 |
| imbrandon | there we go , all fixed up | 01:17 |
| Seveas | gotta love <alias>'es | 01:17 |
| StevenK | I note ubotu didn't tell me anything. | 01:17 |
| Ubugtu | ubotu, tell Seveas about yourself | 01:18 |
| Seveas | hmm, bug | 01:18 |
| imbrandon | !bot > StevenK | 01:18 |
| StevenK | That worked | 01:19 |
| imbrandon | Seveas, shouldent it have messaged me telling me it told him ? | 01:19 |
| Hobbsee | Seveas: explination ? | 01:20 |
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| StevenK | It's the new English. | 01:20 |
| Seveas | imbrandon, no - that becomes annoying very quickly | 01:20 |
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| imbrandon | Seveas, true , i thought that was the old behavure | 01:20 |
| imbrandon | gah anyhow i got to get a shower and such, bbiab after court | 01:21 |
| imbrandon | see ya Seveas StevenK Hobbsee dholbach and everyone ;) | 01:21 |
| dholbach | bye imbrandon | 01:21 |
| StevenK | Seveas: s/explination/explanation/ | 01:21 |
| Hobbsee | bye imbrandon | 01:22 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 01:22 |
| imbrandon | !no versioning is Ubuntu and Debian have slightly different package versioning schemes see for an explanation http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-scratch.html#id2528873 | 01:22 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that | 01:22 |
| imbrandon | ;) oops | 01:22 |
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| Seveas | !versioning =~ s/^/<reply> / | 01:40 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that | 01:40 |
| Seveas | btw: bug solved | 01:40 |
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| Hobbsee | Seveas: which bug? | 01:45 |
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| Seveas | in ubotu | 01:46 |
| Seveas | "ubotu, tell foo about bar" was failing | 01:46 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 01:46 |
| Seveas | just shows that the !foo > bar syntax is far more popular | 01:46 |
| Seveas | because it must have been broken for days | 01:47 |
| StevenK | ubotu: tell me about yourself | 01:47 |
| StevenK | Hah! | 01:47 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 01:48 |
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| seaLne | what do i need to do to compile a program with debuggung symbols? | 02:31 |
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| Toadstool | seaLne: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingProgramCrash | 02:34 |
| seaLne | ah, thanks | 02:35 |
| seaLne | i was looking at gcc flags but i guess i could try it that way | 02:36 |
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| seaLne | that didn't make gdb anymore informative just i didn't get any messages about debugging symbols missing | 02:41 |
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| Riddell | any gnome users here? | 03:58 |
| ogra | nope, we all switched to icewm :) | 03:58 |
| Hobbsee | more like asking if anyone's actually awake in here | 03:58 |
| Riddell | I need a screenshot of the help meu from nautilus | 03:59 |
| ogra | would german suffice ? | 04:00 |
| Riddell | ogra: sadly no | 04:01 |
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| fowlduck | Riddell: get a liveCD | 04:06 |
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| StevenK | Riddell: If I can figure how to get Gnome to take a fragging screenshot with a menu down, it's yours. | 04:06 |
| fowlduck | Riddell: ex: gentoo, ubuntu, kororaa | 04:07 |
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| ogra | fowlduck, i'm pretty sure he needs the ubuntu specific help menu ;) | 04:08 |
| fowlduck | oh right, we're in an ubuntu channel | 04:08 |
| === StevenK has also lost the Take Screenshot menu item in Gimp | ||
| Riddell | gnome-screenshot --delay 4 | 04:09 |
| StevenK | Done | 04:09 |
| StevenK | Riddell: http://wedontsleep.org/~steven/Screenshot.jpg | 04:10 |
| Riddell | The requested URL /~steven/Screenshot.jpg was not found on this server. | 04:10 |
| === StevenK should learn to read | ||
| StevenK | Riddell: .png, sorry | 04:10 |
| dholbach | Riddell: i wrote you an url in the query ;) | 04:10 |
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| Riddell | dholbach: got that thanks, but needed it in English too | 04:12 |
| Riddell | interestingly those launchpad menu options don't follow the HIG | 04:12 |
| dholbach | ahhh ok | 04:12 |
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| havoc | yay, new bitlbee in edgy | 04:28 |
| jsgotangco | thats nice | 04:30 |
| havoc | yeah, now I just need to figure out how to pin edgy in dapper | 04:32 |
| _ion | I'd just use the source packages. | 04:32 |
| havoc | eh, I'm lazy though ;) | 04:32 |
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| dooglus | StevenK: in a terminal: "sleep 3; import -window root file.png", then open the menu, and wait 3 seconds. | 05:04 |
| tseng | sleep 5 && gnome-screenshot | 05:05 |
| tseng | :)) | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | dooglus: he went to bed | 05:06 |
| dooglus | Hobbsee: I'm sorry, I didn't realise this was #ubuntu-motu | 05:06 |
| dooglus | Hobbsee: irssi truncated the channel name to #ubuntu | 05:06 |
| Hobbsee | dooglus: not a problem, but i'm just saying that StevenK went to bed a while ago, so wont see your message for a while :P | 05:07 |
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| Hawkwind | Hobbsee: Morning. Or in your case probably late afternoon there :) | 05:14 |
| Hobbsee | hey Hawkwind | 05:14 |
| Hobbsee | @time sydney | 05:14 |
| Ubugtu | Current time in Australia/Sydney: July 13 2006, 01:14:51 | 05:14 |
| Hobbsee | it really is morning | 05:14 |
| Hawkwind | Ohhhh | 05:15 |
| Hawkwind | You're further into my future than I realized | 05:15 |
| Hawkwind | @time houston | 05:16 |
| Hawkwind | @time chicago | 05:16 |
| Ubugtu | Current time in America/Chicago: July 12 2006, 10:16:52 | 05:16 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 05:18 |
| Toadstool | @time san diego | 05:18 |
| Toadstool | tss :p | 05:18 |
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| imbrandon | dholbach, you got another half sec ? | 05:23 |
| dholbach | yep | 05:24 |
| imbrandon | is there any way you can check for my emails on the -motu mailing list , i'm getting doubles and it said your the admin ( all the onther lists.ubuntu.com ML i only get one ) | 05:24 |
| imbrandon | brandon@imbrandon.com & imbrandon@kubuntu.org <--- the latter should be the only one subscribed | 05:25 |
| imbrandon | only thing i can think of is i'm subscibed twice | 05:26 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: unsubscribe one? | 05:29 |
| imbrandon | um if i knew that they was both subscibed LOL, i dont wanna STOP getting the ML ;) | 05:29 |
| imbrandon | i guess i could try it and wait to see if any mail hits it ;) | 05:29 |
| imbrandon | done, now we'll see if something comes accross -motu ;) | 05:31 |
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| Gloubiboulga | welcome jdmpike ;) | 05:31 |
| jdmpike | when will gnucash-2.0.0 be added to the repos? | 05:31 |
| jdmpike | hehe | 05:31 |
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| jdmpike | it is out and I want it | 05:31 |
| jdmpike | I had build problems building it though | 05:31 |
| jdmpike | I have been throwing money at the gnucash devs for the 2.0 release and now it is here | 05:32 |
| imbrandon | zOMG i want a PONY too ;) just kidding, probbly when someone gets time to package it for edgy , but kinda pointless since x-window-system-core is broke atm in edgy ;) | 05:32 |
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| hub | is it me, or there is no UI in KUbuntu to enable universe | 05:33 |
| imbrandon | hub, adept kinda has a sources.list editor | 05:33 |
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| hub | kinda, I haven't found it | 05:33 |
| jdmpike | I *REALLY* want it for my favorite distro | 05:33 |
| hub | I'm going to the other channel | 05:33 |
| imbrandon | jdmpike, patients | 05:33 |
| hub | I barely use UI installer, but... | 05:33 |
| jdmpike | imbrandon, I hear yeah - I am just totally excited | 05:34 |
| imbrandon | jdmpike, well lets get things like X working before gnucash ;) | 05:34 |
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| imbrandon | wb Seveas | 05:34 |
| jdmpike | imbrandon, my fiance didn't like the old version because it looked "old" so she wouldn't use it | 05:34 |
| jdmpike | do the motu only manage packages for edgy? | 05:35 |
| jdmpike | should I just force the debian people to get it in their repos? | 05:35 |
| imbrandon | we manage the universe ( IE motu == masters of the univers ) ;) | 05:35 |
| jdmpike | hehe | 05:35 |
| jdmpike | yeah - totally... motu, I want to build you guys a compile farm | 05:36 |
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| imbrandon | build me a ppc compile farm an i will be happy ;) j/k | 05:36 |
| lionelp | jdmpike: gnucash 2 is already in Debian SID | 05:36 |
| lionelp | so it should arrive in edgy realy soon | 05:36 |
| imbrandon | jdmpike, if its in SID it will be in edgy soonish | 05:36 |
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| jdmpike | is there a program like that? so you can donate unused cpu cycles to building code? | 05:37 |
| imbrandon | jdmpike, not afaik but thats a neat idea | 05:37 |
| jdmpike | hmmm - I don't know if it would help that much, but I know there are a *LOT* of unused cycles out there... | 05:38 |
| Gloubiboulga | lionelp, do you want to check if we could sync gnucash from debian? | 05:39 |
| lionelp | I can dot it yes :) | 05:40 |
| Gloubiboulga | cool :) | 05:40 |
| jdmpike | so what does the process look like, a package goes in to edgy, then to dapper? Is there documentation about how I can help? | 05:52 |
| Hobbsee | jdmpike: usually it doesnt go into dapper | 05:52 |
| jdmpike | I haven't really found my niche about how I can contribute back to the software I love so much | 05:52 |
| lionelp | Gloubiboulga, jdmpike: in fact, it is already in edgy : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnucash/2.0.0-1 | 05:52 |
| lionelp | but it fails to build due to a python problem | 05:52 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: a chance to show your MOTU guide thing out? ;P | 05:52 |
| Hobbsee | s/show/implement && s/guide/spec | 05:53 |
| jdmpike | hmm - so you are saying that gnucash 2.0 won't be released for dapper? | 05:53 |
| jdmpike | that can't be right the LTS means that people will be running it for years | 05:53 |
| lionelp | jdmpike: yes, but the principe of the release is that once it is released, you do not change everything :) | 05:55 |
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| Gloubiboulga | lionelp, oh nice, thanks for checking :) | 05:57 |
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| jdmpike | are you people running edgy now? | 06:02 |
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| Toadstool | jdmpike: only in a chroot for the moment :) | 06:03 |
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| seaLne | how in general do people here write manpages for commnads that don't have them? | 06:07 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: docbook2man? | 06:07 |
| Gloubiboulga | jdmpike, I run edgy but I spent half the day rebuildind Xfce packages, not very productive ;) | 06:07 |
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| seaLne | Hobbsee: and what do you put in them? | 06:07 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: no idea, i try to avoid documenation like the plage | 06:08 |
| Hobbsee | there's also docbook2html | 06:08 |
| nixternal | haha | 06:08 |
| Hobbsee | i think | 06:09 |
| nixternal | there is docbook2whatever you want now a days it seems, you are correct though Hobbsee with the docbook2html | 06:09 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 06:09 |
| seaLne | Toadstool: what was wrong with the version of synce-kde that i had uploaded to revu 6 weeks ago? | 06:14 |
| Toadstool | seaLne: just forgot to add the previous ubuntu changelog entries | 06:15 |
| Toadstool | I had no idea you had uploaded a synce-kde merge to REVU though | 06:16 |
| Toadstool | sorry | 06:16 |
| Toadstool | seaLne: http://revu.tauware.de/diff.py?upid1=2376&upid2=2689 for the diff | 06:17 |
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| seaLne | yeah i wasn't sure at that point how changelog were supposed to be done | 06:20 |
| Toadstool | seaLne: anyway if you want to merge packages take a look at http://merges.ubuntu.com/ | 06:21 |
| seaLne | reminds me to sort the changelog of kmobiletools | 06:26 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 07:34 |
| Yagisan | bddebian ! | 07:35 |
| bddebian | Heya Yagisan | 07:35 |
| bddebian | Yagisan: Your a security guy aren't you? | 07:35 |
| Yagisan | bddebian: yes I am | 07:36 |
| Yagisan | what's wrong ? | 07:36 |
| Yagisan | (and is it billable >:) ) | 07:36 |
| bddebian | I have some questions about PKI | 07:36 |
| Yagisan | ah | 07:36 |
| Yagisan | shoot, and I'll answer as best I can | 07:36 |
| === Yagisan is more an implementer then designer | ||
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| bddebian | Can I do any type of private->private key encryption? I want an encrypted file that only someone with a specific key can unencrypt (i.e. not a public key) | 07:37 |
| Yagisan | bddebian: encrypt with the targets public key, or use a symmetric cypher. | 07:39 |
| Yagisan | bddebian: eg say you gpg encrypt an email | 07:40 |
| Yagisan | you use your targets public key to encrypt it, so only your targets private key can unlock it | 07:40 |
| bddebian | I like it | 07:41 |
| === Yagisan has some nice books on PKI. Fascinating stuff | ||
| bddebian | Oh yeah it's awesome, I'm just too stupid :-) | 07:42 |
| bddebian | Thanks btw | 07:42 |
| Yagisan | bddebian: anytime | 07:42 |
| bddebian | I get so much love in -devel ;-P | 07:46 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Anyone here working on MythTV packages in the repos? | 07:46 |
| FunnyLookinHat | ping me if you are please : ) | 07:46 |
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| Yagisan | FunnyLookinHat: a long time ago, it was mdz's, but now, I don't think anyone in particular looks after it | 08:03 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Yagisan, Ok... that would explain why it's so out of date. I'd like to undertake updating it to the most recent version and getting packages in the repos updated. | 08:04 |
| FunnyLookinHat | At least for Edgy. | 08:04 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Yagisan, should I just pursue the regular process for joining MOTU and then go from there? | 08:04 |
| Yagisan | FunnyLookinHat: well, I've yet to actually go for MOTU myself | 08:05 |
| Yagisan | FunnyLookinHat: is it newer in Debian ? | 08:05 |
| Yagisan | FunnyLookinHat: if so, IIRC the correct procedure is to file a bug requesting a sync in lp (I'm sure crimsun or someone else will correct me if I'm wrong) | 08:07 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Yagisan, good question. I should check the debian repos to see what they have. From what I understand Ubuntu packaged it's own thing... but all the support and doc on wiki is very sketchy at this point | 08:07 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Yagisan, yea I filed a bug on the package for an update to start at least | 08:07 |
| Yagisan | FunnyLookinHat: hmm, debian doesn't have it. | 08:08 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Yeah, looks like I'll have to compile/package it myself. but I don't mind at all! been looking for an excuse to get into ubuntu devel for a while | 08:09 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I know there are custom .deb packages out there somewhere | 08:09 |
| Yagisan | FunnyLookinHat: try contacting the maintainer listed for the package | 08:10 |
| Yagisan | see if there are plans to update, and offer to help | 08:10 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Hmm. Where would I find that (didn't see one on launchpad at first glance) | 08:10 |
| FunnyLookinHat | ooh yea | 08:11 |
| LaserJock | FunnyLookinHat: have you looked on REVU? | 08:11 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Matt Zimmerman | 08:11 |
| FunnyLookinHat | LaserJock, REVU? | 08:11 |
| LaserJock | FunnyLookinHat: revu.tauware.de | 08:11 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Lol | 08:12 |
| FunnyLookinHat | the most recent message on there for mythtv "And as a final word: there is a new version of mythtv, which we really should get into multiverse for edgy." | 08:12 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Exactly what I'm looking to do. And mdz is still listed at the maintainer of it. Maybe I should drop him an email | 08:12 |
| LaserJock | k | 08:12 |
| Yagisan | FunnyLookinHat: good idea. he is in -devel, but I understand he's a busy guy | 08:13 |
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| LaserJock | that's an understatment ;-) | 08:13 |
| FunnyLookinHat | ya, hahaha. He is VERY busy from what I've heard of him : ) | 08:14 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I have to go for a bit, but I'll get back to him. | 08:14 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Thanks for all the help Yagisan and LaserJock ! | 08:14 |
| LaserJock | you should just ask him real quick if he minds if you update the package | 08:14 |
| LaserJock | I doubt he will | 08:14 |
| FunnyLookinHat | ok sweet | 08:15 |
| Yagisan | FunnyLookinHat: your welcome. Most people are happy for co-maintainers (I'd like some for my not-yet-in-ubuntu packages) | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | well, Ubuntu is nice that way, nobody "owns" a package | 08:16 |
| LaserJock | so you can spread the maintanence joy around ;-) | 08:16 |
| Yagisan | once is passes license muster of course | 08:16 |
| Yagisan | there is a disadvantage though. sometimes things get no love | 08:17 |
| LaserJock | yep | 08:18 |
| LaserJock | that's why we need lots and lots of people | 08:18 |
| LaserJock | so we can rule the UNIVERSE, mwuahahahaha! | 08:19 |
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| Yagisan | LaserJock: that's part of the reason I only pay attention to the apps I use often. | 08:20 |
| LaserJock | and that's why I'm trying to keep up with 450 source packages :-) | 08:21 |
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| LaserJock | luckily either they aren't used very much or scientists are bad bug reports because it isn't terribly overwhelming | 08:22 |
| LaserJock | enough to keep me busy, no doubt, but managable with the help of a certian diety-like dev ;-) | 08:23 |
| Yagisan | LaserJock: be happy I don't do that many apps. otherwise it would be the Efft Edgy release ;) (I break more code then I fix it seems) | 08:24 |
| LaserJock | haha, I just let bddebian do the breaking ;-) | 08:27 |
| bddebian | heh | 08:27 |
| LaserJock | j/k bddebian, you know we love you | 08:27 |
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| LaserJock | awwwww, thanks dad ;-) | 09:05 |
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| === sivang takes bddebian and LaserJock and turns them into con shaped molecules and fires them up in 3D space :-D | ||
| sivang | LaserJock: that scence you described just don't get out of my head since we talked about :) | 09:13 |
| sivang | LaserJock: I keep trying to imimagine how that looks | 09:13 |
| LaserJock | sivang: just a sec | 09:13 |
| Yagisan | hmm. debian has been compromised again :( | 09:16 |
| zul | hmm? | 09:17 |
| zul | Yagisan: what happened? | 09:18 |
| Yagisan | zul: on d-d-a elmo sent a message staing that someone broke into gluck.debian.org | 09:19 |
| stratus | calm down, there's no "debian compromise" | 09:19 |
| stratus | yes, it was gluck | 09:19 |
| stratus | ddtp, lintian, people, popcon and some other stuff | 09:19 |
| LaserJock | sivang: grab http://www.chem.unr.edu/~mantha/2063.pdf real quick | 09:20 |
| stratus | the archive is ok | 09:20 |
| === Yagisan is calm. It's a shame someone thinks it's cool to do that | ||
| zul | it was bddebian! ;) | 09:20 |
| stratus | the last time it was a lame with a 0day leaked exploit that tried to look like the cool thing | 09:20 |
| sivang | LaserJock: wow, you're quite published :-) | 09:22 |
| LaserJock | not me | 09:22 |
| LaserJock | that's my predeccesor | 09:22 |
| sivang | LaserJock: ah, I see | 09:22 |
| sivang | LaserJock: I hope I will be able to decipher 30% of the words on this text | 09:22 |
| sivang | LaserJock: :) | 09:23 |
| LaserJock | sivang: just look at the pictures/captions | 09:23 |
| LaserJock | sivang: also try http://www.chem.unr.edu/~mantha/360-Rotate-slow-loop.mov | 09:23 |
| LaserJock | sivang: that's a movie of the molecule I'll be working on, the motor | 09:23 |
| LaserJock | just don't go publishing it anywhere, my boss will have my hide if our competitors get ahold of it ;-) | 09:24 |
| sivang | LaserJock: oh crap, you've just pasted it in a public channel ;-) | 09:25 |
| LaserJock | and I'll be removing the files as soon as you have them ;-) | 09:25 |
| sivang | already have | 09:25 |
| sivang | go ahead | 09:25 |
| LaserJock | k | 09:25 |
| slomo_ | i have it too now ;P | 09:25 |
| LaserJock | good | 09:26 |
| LaserJock | as long as it's just you CS geeks | 09:26 |
| sivang | hehe | 09:26 |
| sivang | slomo_: hi! | 09:26 |
| === sivang hugs slomo_ | ||
| sivang | slomo_: how wsa the test?? | 09:26 |
| slomo_ | hi sivang :) the test was much easier than i expected... i could've spent all the time learning more useful ;) | 09:27 |
| sivang | aha | 09:27 |
| sivang | you should do more merges instead :p | 09:27 |
| slomo_ | no, not today... today i'll do some coding again :) | 09:28 |
| sivang | slomo_: oh cool, what are you coding? | 09:29 |
| slomo_ | "fixing" or better rewriting from scratch of 3 gstreamer plugins... wavpackdec, wavpackparse and wavpackenc | 09:30 |
| sivang | slomo_: oh man, this is some hard core coding :) | 09:31 |
| sivang | slomo_: an you have to know the formulas for wavepack or is it mostly raw sampleing with some compression on top? | 09:31 |
| sivang | slomo_: I am thinking how to make the home user bakcup daemon know how much time passed sinc ehte last backup | 09:32 |
| slomo_ | no, i'm only using libwavpack for everything... would be insane to reimplement it when there already is a nice implemention from which i know the author good and helping him on defining a nice API :) so it's not that hard as it probably sounds first | 09:33 |
| slomo_ | but i have to do some fiddling with raw samples nonetheless unfortunately :/ | 09:33 |
| sivang | slomo_: as testing ? | 09:33 |
| slomo_ | sivang: making it a session daemon... hmm, another daemon eating ram although it does nothing most of the time ;) make it a cron job or something... | 09:33 |
| slomo_ | "as testing"? | 09:34 |
| sivang | 20:33 < slomo_> but i have to do some fiddling with raw samples nonetheless unfortunately :/ | 09:34 |
| sivang | ^^ for testing? | 09:34 |
| sivang | slomo_: right, not a daemon, I meant a cronjob that will fire up a script that will check how much time passed | 09:34 |
| slomo_ | oh... no, for getting the samples to a format that libwavpack likes and getting it into raw samples again that gstreamer likes ;) wasn't that easy to make it work on ppc and x86. but most of the work is in the actual behaviour of the plugins | 09:36 |
| slomo_ | that sounds saner again :) but it must be a system cronjob, no? | 09:36 |
| === havoc assumes everyone's already heard about gluck.debian.org | ||
| havoc | probably doesn't affect ubuntu though | 09:37 |
| sivang | slomo_: I'd like to make it per user | 09:41 |
| sivang | slomo_: as the specification use cases show :) | 09:41 |
| LaserJock | havoc: what did it effect in Debian? | 09:41 |
| slomo_ | sivang: how? writing a ~/.crontab for the user? | 09:41 |
| sivang | slomo_: not going to deal with system backup for now, only for edgy+1 | 09:41 |
| slomo_ | LaserJock: <stratus> ddtp, lintian, people, popcon and some other stuff | 09:41 |
| havoc | LaserJock: unknown thus far: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/07/msg00003.html | 09:41 |
| havoc | well, little known | 09:42 |
| havoc | or little reported | 09:42 |
| stratus | there's nothing wrong in the elmo message | 09:42 |
| stratus | gluck hosts that services | 09:42 |
| stratus | the archive is ok | 09:42 |
| havoc | and I sincerely hope it stays that way | 09:43 |
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| sivang | slomo_: hmm, godo point. Any other ideas? | 09:43 |
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| sivang | slomo_: nothing I could cling into that's already doing checkups? | 09:43 |
| slomo_ | sivang: no... but the ~/.crontab could work imho | 09:43 |
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| sivang | slomo_: maybe I will make the huabckup create it, and not install it through packaging. | 09:45 |
| sivang | slomo_: actually this sounds the best way to do it anyways | 09:45 |
| slomo_ | you must not do anything with the users home directory through packaging anyway :P | 09:46 |
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| sivang | slomo_: right, so I would just have HUB check if that file exists and if not create it and tell user (you have never done a backup before) | 10:21 |
| hub | me? | 10:22 |
| sivang | hub: oh sorry | 10:24 |
| sivang | slomo_: s/hub/hubackup/ | 10:24 |
| pygi | sivang, you gonna respond perhaps? ^_^ | 10:27 |
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| chantra | hi, is siretart or ajmitch or raphink here? | 10:58 |
| chantra | I've uploaded subtitleeditor_0.8.1-1ubuntu0 on revu, but it doesn't seems to have been updated | 10:58 |
| raphink | well I seem to be | 10:59 |
| raphink | let's see | 10:59 |
| chantra | cheers raphink | 10:59 |
| raphink | hi chantra | 10:59 |
| raphink | chantra: did you add yourself to the ubuntu-universe-contributors group on LP? | 11:00 |
| chantra | ? nope, I don't think so, I validated my gpg key, that's all | 11:00 |
| chantra | what is LP by the way :s | 11:00 |
| raphink | launchpad | 11:00 |
| chantra | no, I simply registered to launchpad | 11:01 |
| raphink | we are migrating REVU to LP progressively | 11:01 |
| raphink | and now you have to join https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-universe-contributors | 11:01 |
| raphink | in order to upload to REVU | 11:01 |
| raphink | I sent an email about that to the motu ML | 11:01 |
| raphink | some time ago | 11:01 |
| raphink | so just join the team | 11:01 |
| raphink | tell me when you have done it | 11:01 |
| raphink | and I'll put your package in the incoming queue again | 11:02 |
| raphink | I'll brb | 11:02 |
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| chantra | okie cheers | 11:03 |
| === chantra hasn't properly filtered is motu mail yet .... it is a big mess :) | ||
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| chantra | raphink: okie, I've just joined, should I re upload the package | 11:05 |
| chantra | ? | 11:05 |
| FunnyLookinHat | poor raphink seems to have connection issues : ( | 11:06 |
| raphink | no chantra | 11:06 |
| raphink | FunnyLookinHat: no I did say I was to come back in a few minutes ;) | 11:06 |
| FunnyLookinHat | oh yea.... guess I'm not reading well today | 11:06 |
| raphink | wait a few minutes chantra I have to update the keyring | 11:06 |
| chantra | okie | 11:07 |
| chantra | my key was accepted though | 11:07 |
| raphink | sure | 11:08 |
| raphink | just wait a bit | 11:08 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I still have to get my key and everything setup so I can joun the team.... ^_^ | 11:08 |
| chantra | raphink: , when I uploaded, I was able to upload | 11:08 |
| crimsun | I /love/ feature requests that FTBFS | 11:09 |
| chantra | so I guess my key was accepted | 11:09 |
| crimsun | love with brick+sharp_pointy_stick | 11:09 |
| FunnyLookinHat | crimsun, FTBFS? that's a new one for me.... | 11:09 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I assume it's a lot of cursing, haha | 11:09 |
| crimsun | install bsdgames, then ``wtf ftbfs'' | 11:09 |
| raphink | yes I know chantra but this has changed and this is why I sent the email | 11:10 |
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| raphink | chantra: now let's wait 5 minutes. If all goes well your package should be there | 11:10 |
| FunnyLookinHat | crimsun, it doens't know what it means! | 11:11 |
| === chantra is going to dig is emails :p | ||
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| phanatic | evening | 11:11 |
| chantra | raphink: okie, cheers | 11:11 |
| raphink | chantra: you have your gpg key on LP right? | 11:11 |
| crimsun | FunnyLookinHat: it means "failed to build from source" | 11:11 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Ahhh ok. | 11:11 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I hate those as well... such as all the people wanting akamaru (that os x gnome bar thingy) | 11:12 |
| chantra | raphink: currently doing it | 11:13 |
| raphink | chantra: ah ... then I'll have to run the update keyring again | 11:14 |
| raphink | chantra: tell me when your key is added to LP | 11:15 |
| chantra | sorry raphink , just can't find your mail in all those motu mails :s | 11:18 |
| raphink | I sent it on the 30th of june | 11:19 |
| crimsun | does someone have a fast ia32 edgy pbuilder? | 11:21 |
| crimsun | [that I could abuse for ~30 mins] | 11:21 |
| raphink | crimsun: tiber has one | 11:21 |
| crimsun | (right, but I don't have ssh access [that I know of] ) | 11:22 |
| pygi | raphink, !!! | 11:22 |
| raphink | hi pygi | 11:22 |
| pygi | hi raphink :) | 11:22 |
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| chantra | raphink: okie, I validated my key | 11:29 |
| raphink | good | 11:29 |
| raphink | give me some time now | 11:29 |
| chantra | okie dokie | 11:29 |
| chantra | by the way, I didn't find your mail, filtering your nick, date..., just updates,comments and spams | 11:32 |
| LaserJock | 6/30/06 is when I have his email | 11:38 |
| LaserJock | chantra: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-June/000723.html | 11:39 |
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| chantra | cheers LaserJock | 11:40 |
| chantra | I guess I'm not in this ist, will register after lunch | 11:41 |
| chantra | I'l just in motu-reviewer :s | 11:41 |
| LaserJock | ah | 11:41 |
| chantra | okie raphink subtitleeditor made is way up. Tks for the help | 11:59 |
| raphink | you're welcome :) | 11:59 |
| === chantra just need to subscrie to ubuntu-motu mailing list :) | ||
| raphink | yes I guess chantra :) | 12:01 |
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