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pygikwwii, you still alive? :P12:26
kwwiiyepp12:29
kwwiijust about to send you an emai12:29
pygioki, thanks kwwii :)12:30
kwwiierm, my wavelan has left me12:36
kwwiiand with that, it is time for bed12:44
kwwiisee you tomorrow12:44
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imbrandon m,oOOoooo.    mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmMMMMMM"""""""12:59
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bddebianHeya03:18
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Hobbseemorning all03:35
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Hobbseecool, i see kopete got uploaded :)04:05
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=== Hobbsee gets hit with it, and feels suitably like an idiot. thanks crimsun
crimsunnp at all.04:06
Hobbseeheh04:13
bddebianHobbsee: Now you know how I feel 24/7 :-)04:20
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Hobbseebut you dont do idiotic things like that all the time.04:20
=== Hobbsee couldnt even work out a simple patch last night.
bddebianBah04:20
Hobbseebddebian: are you still touching your updated merges, or are they being done by someone else now?04:31
bddebianI haven't touched the updated ones no.  imview and hydrogen should be straight syncs now04:32
Hobbseebddebian: okay04:32
Hobbseebddebian: yeah, hydrogen's a sync.  you're not touching any of these packages anymore, right?04:34
bddebianNope04:35
bddebianNot until I get my first merges done anyway :-)04:35
Hobbseebddebian: you still going to approve syncs?04:36
Hobbseeyeah, you'd better do them04:36
bddebianI'd better do what?04:37
Hobbseeyou'd better get your first merges done, if you had them sitting on your hard drive04:37
bddebianOh, I have nothing sitting on my hard drive :-)04:38
Hobbseeoh dear...then where are they?04:38
bddebianWell some of them can't be done yet04:38
Hobbseetrue04:38
bddebianstupid hamlib :-)04:40
Hobbseeah, yes...so that's still dead.  excellent04:40
bddebianAre you looking for something to do? :-)04:42
Hobbseebddebian: i'm building your hydrogen and about to hit yes to the sync, why do you ask?04:42
Hobbseeand doing a lot of updates04:42
bddebianBecause you keep asking me about my packages :)04:44
Hobbseebddebian: well, yeah, i'm otherwise sitting here adn doing nothing, and looking at the merges list.04:45
bddebianHobbsee: Grab xcircuit.  I think it should be a sync now04:45
Hobbseeand because i know you're quitting, and wondering what's going to happen to the ones that are assigned to you.04:45
bddebianOh poo, you can't get rid of me that easily :-)04:46
bddebianI was just whining04:46
Hobbseebddebian: so you're not quiting?  oh good!04:46
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Hobbseeback soon04:46
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bddebian:-)04:46
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Hobbseeand back :)05:01
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Hobbseebddebian: want to approve https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/hydrogen/+bug/52828 please?05:06
UbugtuMalone bug 52828 in hydrogen "[Edgy MoM]  Please sync hydrogen 0.9.3-2 from Debian Sid" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  05:06
Hobbsee(antoher week, and i wont have to get approval! yay)05:06
bddebianHeh05:08
bddebianHobbsee: Awfully sure of yourself aren't you? ;-)05:09
Hobbseebddebian: well, i've had keybuk say yes, even though he hadnt been at the meeting, and i keep getting told that i should be a MOTU.05:09
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bddebianI'm only kidding, I think you should be a shoe-in05:10
Hobbseeheh05:10
nixternalhiya Hobbsee05:11
Hobbseebddebian: nasty. i'm clearly naieve today05:11
nixternalhiya bddebian05:11
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Hobbseehey nixternal!05:12
bddebianBah, you'll be fine05:12
bddebianHeya nixternal05:12
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Hobbseebddebian: sure sure05:12
HobbseeseaLne: ping?05:19
HobbseeseaLne: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-thunderbird/+bug/52670 - see my comment05:22
UbugtuMalone bug 52670 in mozilla-thunderbird "Thunderbird uses konqueror as web browser" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  05:22
nixternalhttp://home.comcast.net/~nixternal/images/misc/yakuake.jpg   <- hawt05:25
bddebianThat is pretty cool05:27
nixternalthat is my eyecandy ;)05:28
erovyeah i like nix05:28
nixternali don't need no stinkin' compiz ;)05:28
nixternalty05:28
Hobbseebddebian: approve https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/imview/+bug/52832 too please?05:34
UbugtuMalone bug 52832 in imview "[Edgy MoM]  Please sync imview 1.1.8-6 from Debian Sid" [Untriaged,Confirmed]  05:34
bddebianHobbsee: Already done05:34
Hobbseebddebian: oh, okay then.05:34
Hobbseeoops05:34
bddebian:-)05:35
Hobbseebddebian: it's not on edgy changes yet, FYI05:35
bddebianHobbsee: No, I meant already ack'd your bug :-)05:35
Hobbseeah :P05:35
Hobbseei just filed that one though05:35
bddebianI know, I saw it while filing a sync request for xmotd :-)05:36
Hobbseeah05:36
Hobbsee:)05:36
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Hobbseebddebian: ack, dont know what happened to my brain there.  that'll sync06:24
HobbseeRiddell: you changed your chroots on your system - which one can i use?06:28
Hobbsee*** YOU'RE USING autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.60.06:39
Hobbsee*** KDE requires autoconf 2.52, 2.53 or 2.5406:39
=== Hobbsee thinks that spells trouble. how many other packages will that effect?
bddebianProbably a few06:41
Hobbseebddebian: checking poly thingo now, which should be a sync06:42
bddebianOK06:42
Hobbseedo crimsu*n's thing in the meantime06:43
crimsundon't worry, unless you preface the line with my nick, the highlight doesn't go off06:43
Hobbseeah06:43
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Hobbseehow annoying06:56
nixternalgood stuff07:00
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seaLneHobbsee: yeah i probably shouldn't have07:56
seaLnebut he did improve after that07:56
HobbseeseaLne: true.  oh, that's the guy that's been filing everything under kubuntu-meta?08:09
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freeflying|awaydo we have firefox-themes-kubuntu?08:32
Hobbseefreeflying|away: we've got a few packages listed on the suggested packages page about it, but i'm not aware of any in the archives 08:36
freeflying|awayHobbsee: where is the list08:36
Hobbseefreeflying|away: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates/Kubuntu?action=show&redirect=KubuntuSuggestedPackages08:37
freeflying|awayHobbsee: thx08:41
Hobbsee:)08:41
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seaLnei'd never noticed ksynaptics didn't do anything in dapper, oops08:44
HobbseeseaLne: just speaking to the maintainer of that now :)08:45
seaLnei really must fix my desktop so i can stop using this work laptop08:46
Hobbseehehe08:46
seaLnei hate dieing hardware08:46
seaLnei once managed to break a replacement motherboard cpu and ram before discovering it was a faulty psu that killed everything, expensive learning experience08:48
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kwwiimoin09:19
kwwiiRiddell: thanks for the warning09:19
Riddellmorning kwwii 09:19
Hobbseehey kwwii, Riddell 09:19
Riddellhi Hobbsee09:20
RiddellHobbsee: where did that autoconf error happen?09:21
HobbseeRiddell: thanks for that commit yesterday.  in k...something....09:21
pygikwwii, mornin' :)09:21
kwwiimoin all09:21
HobbseeRiddell: ksensors09:21
pygikwwii, care to send me mail?^_^09:25
kwwiipygi: did you see the stuff I posted last night?09:26
pygikwwii, I haven't got nothing ? :P09:26
pygiyou sure you sent to right mail?09:26
kwwiiwhat was your address again?09:27
pygimario (dot) danic (at) gmail (dot) com09:27
pygikwwii, shoots also please cause I am not on KDE machine right now? ^_^09:30
kwwiiok, give me a while and I will make them09:30
pygik, thanks09:30
HobbseeRiddell: http://rafb.net/paste/results/tuzY1k28.html is the full error for automake09:35
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\shgrmpf09:50
imbrandon_moins \sh09:50
\shI really need to patch ktorrent09:50
imbrandon_heh merge ?09:50
\sh        rm -f translations/nb/messages/*.po in clean is not good enough...09:50
Riddell\sh: hmm, if it's in clean it'll probably get recreated when the .orig is unzipped09:51
Riddell\sh: try putting it into install09:51
\shRiddell: well, it breaks, because clean is executed during the first run, then build rule comes and tries to build this...and failes09:52
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\shRiddell: I put it now at the end of install rule09:53
Riddellright09:53
Riddellgood luck :)09:53
\shwe are awaiting our product launch....in 6 minutes we are starting our show :)09:54
Riddelljust time for a quick ktorrent upload then :)09:54
Riddellautoconf 2.6 look like being a whole lot of fun10:04
fabois there a kubuntu net install iso ?10:28
Riddellfabo: same as ubuntu one10:29
faboRiddell: ok, thks10:29
Riddellfabo: secret ruins near bottom of https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFiles10:30
faboRiddell: nice, successfully installed with a 7.4M iso10:44
Riddellthat was fast10:48
fabofinished only the base install system10:50
faboRiddell: have you received my mail about strigi ?10:51
Riddellnot that I've noticed10:52
RiddellI see Subject: rev 4105 - in kde-extras/strigi: tags tags/0.3.2-2/debian though, which is excellent :)10:53
faboaccepted yesterday in debian, i'll upload it today on revu10:53
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Riddellfabo: any first impressions of strigi?10:54
Riddellbeagle killer?10:54
faboRiddell: nice tool, working (remember kat story...)10:55
fabothe ratio data index size / data size is ok10:55
fabomy index size is ~500 Mb for 5Go of data10:56
faboreally fast with clucene10:56
Riddellsounds promising10:56
Riddelluser interface sane?10:56
faboqt4 client don't have many features, but kde3 applet is really nice10:57
faboand there's some other cool feature in svn :)10:57
faboadded to kde3 applet ;)10:58
faboconfigurable tabs to the html gui10:59
fabo~/.strigi/tabqueries can contain predefined queries, that are appended to the given query10:59
faboe.g. adding a line 'Ogg\tmimetype:audio/ogg' adds a tab with ogg files11:00
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seaLnecould someone try building http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2696 on amd64?12:05
RiddellseaLne: doing12:08
RiddellseaLne: same problem12:13
RiddellseaLne: if I run  find . -name *moc.o | xargs rm  it all works12:14
seaLneoops i was deleting 1 dir down12:14
RiddellseaLne: those .moc.o files need to be removed from the .orig12:14
seaLneRiddell: apparently upstream don't care, there is also .svn everywhere12:15
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Tm_Konvimoin12:16
RiddellseaLne: have you been in contact with them?12:16
seaLnei asked on irc awhile ago12:16
RiddellseaLne: lovely.  I'd delete the files and remake the .orig and note it in the changelog12:16
Riddellyou can also delete them in the configure rule of debian/rules12:17
seaLnedleting in clean not good enough?12:17
RiddellseaLne: no, they'll get recreated on uncompressing the .orig in the buildds12:17
seaLneah :)12:17
seaLnewhat does "dpkg-source: warning: ignoring deletion of file...." mean?12:19
RiddellseaLne: exactly that12:19
seaLnethat was in configure12:19
Riddellthe files are still in the .orig so they'll be recreated when that gets unzipped12:19
Riddellif they're then deleted in the configure rule all should be well12:19
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seaLneRiddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=269812:45
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RiddellseaLne: that fails to compile, it doesn't run configure12:48
Riddelllooks like the .orig has Makefile's in it12:48
seaLneok, i'll look more closely at it12:49
Riddellneeds make distclean run or something12:49
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kwwiire01:07
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imbrandonRiddell, if your not to busy mind poking http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2695 so i grab crimsun or someone to upload 01:29
imbrandon;)01:29
Riddellimbrandon: done01:35
imbrandonRiddell, thanks ;)01:35
faboa pbuilder create gives me dpkg-parsechangelog: error: cannot open debian/changelog to find format ... Cannot understand package version/source , any idea ?01:42
Riddellfabo: for edgy?01:44
faboRiddell: i have dapper, i tried to create pbuilder dapper and also edgy, same result01:48
Riddelldapper always worked for me01:50
faboRiddell: right after a fresh install of dapper, i installed pbuilder, then sudo pbuilder create and my error01:52
faboah no something changed my .pbuilderrc01:54
faboremoving .pbuilderrc works ...01:55
Riddellphew01:55
fabonext step upgrade to edgy ...01:56
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Riddellfabo: how come guidance is only build for threearches in experimental?02:20
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Hobbseehi all02:34
Riddellhi Hobbsee 02:36
Hobbseehi Riddell!02:36
RiddellHobbsee: the autoconf 2.60 issue looks like it'll be lots of fun02:36
Riddellyou'll need a variant of this patch http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/autoconf2.60.diff02:36
HobbseeRiddell: i'm back to torment everyone again :D02:36
Hobbseeah.....02:36
=== Hobbsee looks
Hobbseefun that i didnt want to have, yes.02:37
HobbseeRiddell: what do we do?  rename that, and use it as a patch?02:38
=== Hobbsee wonders if it can be added as a patch to cdbs or something, like the dh_iconcache stuff.
Riddellhttp://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu_00_autoconf2.60.diff02:40
Riddellput it in debian/patches02:40
Hobbseeright, yeah02:41
Hobbseegot that much :)02:41
HobbseeRiddell: this is going to need to be done for every single package, right?02:42
Hobbseefor all kde ones02:42
Riddellcan't put it in cdbs, it's not a debian build system fix02:42
Hobbseewhenever we want to rebuild them, or a user builds from source02:42
Hobbseeah right, so you cant have an automagic patch thing called from kde.mk02:42
mornfallyou could, if there was a way to detect it's needed02:42
Hobbseemornfall: all kde apps use kde.mk02:43
RiddellHobbsee: packages don't always need autoconf run, only when the Makefile.am changes, and it'll be in kde 3.5.402:43
Hobbseedont they?02:43
Hobbseeah...02:43
Hobbseeright02:43
Hobbseewhich is...in a week or two.02:43
Riddellbut yes it'll probably randomly crop up quite a bit02:43
Hobbseeright02:43
=== Hobbsee contemplates making all her bug fixes after the 25th or so
Riddellit'll still be a potential issue for all the packages not part of main KDE02:44
Hobbseetrue02:44
HobbseeRiddell: can that patch be applied against kde 3.5.3?  would that be an easier solution?02:45
Hobbseeor does it require a patch on all kde packages, or just one?02:45
=== Hobbsee is just trying to think of easier ways to do this, rather than having to add a patch, then take it out next release
Riddellit needs done to all kde packages that need to run autoconf02:45
Riddellso I'll try and not run autoconf on anything between now and 3.5.4 :)02:46
HobbseeRiddell: oh bleh.  so how does kde 3.5.4 handle it?02:46
RiddellHobbsee: it includes that patch02:46
HobbseeRiddell: but that patch against what?  i think i'm missing something here02:46
Riddellthe patch is again current KDE svn which is fixed for autoconf 2.60 support.  KDE 3.5.3 isn't and neither are any external KDE applications02:47
Hobbseeas in, kde 3.5.4 fixes it in such a way that it will be fixed for just the kde packages, but the kde universe will still need it?  or kde 3.5.4 fixes it so that all packages are fine, and that patch is never needed02:47
Riddellthe fix is only per package02:47
Hobbseeright, okay then02:47
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faboRiddell: guidance is only on 3 arch because experimental builds have a low priority02:47
HobbseeRiddell: and when dont we need the patch again?02:48
RiddellHobbsee: you don't need it if autoconf isn't run, so if the package has no patches against Makefile.am or configure.in.in files you should be fine02:48
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HobbseeRiddell: right, yeah.02:48
Hobbseehey linuxmonkey 02:48
HobbseeRiddell: sorry - not really meaning to boss you around here - but i've just come from work, where i have been bossing people around, and i'm still trying to understand :P02:49
linuxmonkeycame home to sleep, just woke up and back to hospital in a few hours02:49
RiddellHobbsee: ksensors has this line in the debian/rules file "$(MAKE) -f admin/Makefile.common" which is what runs autoconf, so that'll need the patch02:50
HobbseeRiddell: yep, true, kcemirror too, i think02:50
Riddellfun02:50
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Riddellfabo: right02:50
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Hobbseei wonder how you patch with debhelper.02:52
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RiddellHobbsee: hang on..02:56
=== Hobbsee pictures herself holding onto a fragmenting piece of rope, untangling as she holds, about to fall off the edge of the cliff
linuxmonkeylol02:57
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HobbseeRiddell: take your time, i'm still eating dinner at the moment anyway, and reading the meeting logs02:58
Hobbseehehe02:58
linuxmonkeyHobbsee:  what you running Ubuntu or Kubuntu or something else02:59
Hobbseelinuxmonkey: kubuntu. of course.02:59
Hobbseedapper02:59
jjesseanything good in the meeting logs?02:59
linuxmonkeyyeah, you got fired... Hobbsee got yer job and I wont 1000000$03:00
linuxmonkeywon*03:00
Hobbseei'm reading the CC first, then the dev meeting03:00
Hobbseehehe03:00
linuxmonkeylol03:00
jjesseoh that sounds like a busy meeting :003:00
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RiddellHobbsee: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/patch-rules  copy and paste the chunk from configure-stamp and clean03:04
=== Hobbsee tries
=== Hobbsee suspects she shouldnt have two "build stamps"
RiddellI mean just copy the 8 lines below # Apply Debian specific patches03:08
Riddelland # Remove Debian specific patches03:08
HobbseeRiddell: where in the rules does the first block need to go?  i dont seem to have a configure stamp thing03:14
RiddellHobbsee: put it in build-stamp: then below dh_testdir03:15
Hobbseeah03:15
Hobbseeoh good!  it built!03:31
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HobbseeRiddell: that ended up working fine03:37
Riddellbarry03:38
Hobbseebarry?03:41
Riddellaye03:42
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HobbseeRiddell: would you like to do an upload for me?  please?03:43
Hobbseeor should i wait a week?  :p03:43
imbrandonheh03:43
RiddellHobbsee: sure03:45
imbrandondpkg-source -x smart_0.41+svn727-1.dsc03:45
HobbseeRiddell: http://rafb.net/paste/results/fOXp2r63.html03:45
imbrandondoh03:45
Hobbseeimbrandon: hehe03:46
imbrandon;) 03:46
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RiddellHobbsee: ksensors uploaded04:13
Riddellthat pastebin is annoying, it changes to windows lineendings04:13
HobbseeRiddell: thanks :)04:14
HobbseeRiddell: okay, i'll go back to using pastebin.ca04:14
mornfallnever happened to me (althuogh i don't usually use pastebins to exchange files)04:18
HobbseeRiddell: how would i go about getting a package to be rebuilt in the dapper archives?  is it worth doing, to fix an "unable to uninstall" bug?04:20
RiddellHobbsee: what's the package?04:20
HobbseeRiddell: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kcemirror/+bug/5148404:20
UbugtuMalone bug 51484 in kcemirror "uninstall fails in dapper and edgy" [Untriaged,Fix released]  04:20
Hobbseei'm not positive it is just fixed with a rebuild, and i havent checked it yet, but it is fixed with a rebuild in edgy, and i remember seeing that as the fix for some other ones of these04:21
Hobbseenixternal: you went for ubuntu membership.  we dont get to ack you then :(04:23
RiddellHobbsee: make a minimal patch against the dapper version and I'll propose it for dapper-updates04:26
jjesseis there a deadline for dapperupdates?04:27
HobbseeRiddell: gotcha.  which means adding build1 to the changelog, i presume04:27
Hobbseejjesse: dapper EOL.04:27
Hobbsee:P04:27
jjessegrin thanks Hobbsee04:27
Hobbseehehehe04:27
jjesseRiddell: i just got the final textfor the chapter 7 Official Ubuntu book so i'm going to be sending it to mdke to see if he can get a html complete with the correct images created04:28
RiddellHobbsee: no, changes to code mean ubuntuX change04:32
RiddellHobbsee: and probably ubuntu0.1 for an update04:32
HobbseeRiddell: but it's just a rebuild, like you did for your libsomething transition at the beginning of dapper04:33
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Hobbseehang on, isnt 1ubuntu1 > 1ubuntu0.1?04:34
Hobbseeor are you meaning bump it to 1ubuntu1.1?04:34
Riddellyes04:35
RiddellHobbsee: do you know why a rebuild fixes it?04:36
jjesseooo 544 packages need updated on my move from dapper to edgy :)04:36
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HobbseeRiddell: because they borked the dh_iconcache stuff, and so the first block of packages to go thru required a rebuild, so the uninstall would work - #ICONDIR# didnt get expanded in the dh_iconcache code, so anything that hasnt been rebuilt since putting it in, for those packages that were affected, still has that bug04:37
Hobbseethere was a bug in malone for it, but my malone searching foo isnt up to scratch.04:37
=== Hobbsee suspects that didnt make sense.
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jjesseany bug found in malone for adept should be moved to bugs.kde.org correct? and if so how do you do that/04:38
Hobbseejjesse: report it upstream, link it with the "upstream" button in malone04:38
=== Hobbsee just copy pasted a malone bug into b.k.o earlier...
jjesseconfirm it first :)04:38
Hobbseewell, yeah04:39
=== Hobbsee wonders if she did that.
=== Hobbsee cant remember.
=== Hobbsee pokes her brain to see if it still exists.
RiddellHobbsee: right, wait until mdz is awake then ask him if it's ok then you can upload it04:40
HobbseeRiddell: in fact, i remember kcemirror being on that list, i'm not sure why it never got redone.04:40
HobbseeRiddell: mdz is in...europe somewhere?04:40
jjessehmm just tried to update to edgy through the command line and got an error.  working on pastebining it04:49
Hobbseejjesse: working on pastebinning it?  if you can reproduce the error, pipe the entire command to a file, then pastebin the file?04:51
jjessewill do04:51
Hobbseeer, pipe the output from the command to a file?04:51
RiddellHobbsee: east cost US, should be awake in an hour or so04:52
jjesseRiddell: its 10:52 am in the east cost usa :)04:52
jjessewest coast USA is 3 more hours behind so should be just waking up04:53
Riddellshouldn't be long then :)04:53
Riddelloh, I mean west04:53
HobbseeRiddell: ah, right.  US is easier to coordinate with timezone-wise anyway - UK/Europe is the real problem one, iirc04:53
jjessehmm my upgrade couldn't find adept but now it is working04:53
mornfalljjesse: not any, only valid and useful ones04:54
Hobbseejjesse: i'm more worried if it cant find apt.  you used adept for the upgrade?04:54
jjesseno used apt04:54
Hobbseeah04:54
jjessemornfall: how bout a bug on a missing translation of adept, do i move that to b.k.o or leave it on malone04:54
jjessebug #5160904:55
mornfallmissing translations are not my concern04:55
UbugtuMalone bug 51609 in adept "Broken translation" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5160904:55
mornfallif there's an i18n missing, that's a problem04:55
mornfallif libept.mo is not loaded, that's a problem too04:55
jjessehow would i know?04:55
HobbseeRiddell: oh yes, which chroot are we building on, if we're using your machine?  edgy, or edgy new?04:56
mornfallwell, that's the idea -- someone who knows sorts out those malone bugs so i don't have to04:56
RiddellHobbsee: edgy04:56
HobbseeRiddell: thanks :)   i was going to use it earlier, with the main stuff i was doing last night, but couldnt find where i'd been, and didnt want to guess wrong about what to use04:57
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mornfalljjesse: basically, that's job of maintainer in debian -- sort out bugs they get and file relevant ones upstream04:58
nixternalmoins everyone!!!05:04
Riddell"There is %n updates available" if the %n is showing to the user that seems like adept's fault05:04
Riddellalthough I can't think why it would show to the user, it works in English05:04
nixternalHobbsee: you just might get to ack me cuz i haven't heard anything about the membership ;(05:05
Hobbseenixternal: didnt they vote on you?05:05
nixternalpartially i guess ;)05:05
nixternalwaiting on mako05:05
nixternallol05:05
Hobbseeah05:06
Hobbseei hate that - when they dont actually have quorum05:06
Hobbseenixternal: i'd probably ask about that, when you see mako05:06
nixternalmako is online, just ever around05:06
nixternals/ever/never05:06
Hobbseeah05:07
nixternalfill me in, why don't you get to ack me?05:08
mornfall    QToolTip::add(this, n == 0 ? i18n( "No updates needed." )05:08
mornfall                  : i18n( "There is %n updated package available",05:08
mornfall                          "There are %n updated packages available", n ) );05:08
mornfallRiddell: that should work, no?05:08
mornfallunless someone mucked with i18n05:08
Hobbseenixternal: because there's no specific point in being a kubuntu member, if you're already a ubuntu one.  iirc.  except an email address05:08
nixternalahhh yes true05:09
nixternalhmmm...i like the Kubuntu one though ;(  its all about the K + the Ubuntu ;)05:09
Hobbseetrue05:10
Riddellmornfall: I'd say so, works in English05:11
Riddellmornfall: but I also can't see anything wrong with the way it's been translated05:11
Riddellquite a mystery05:11
HobbseeRiddell: ping?  feel like an upload?05:15
RiddellHobbsee: I'd love to05:18
HobbseeRiddell: :D http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=269905:18
HobbseeRiddell: you only get to be poked by me for uploads for another 5 or so days :)05:18
Hobbseewell, simple ones to universe, anyway.05:19
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RiddellHobbsee: you need to get mdz's permission first (although I confirm it fixes the problem)05:22
HobbseeRiddell: keybuk said kamion's was just as good.05:23
Hobbseewant the log of it?05:23
RiddellHobbsee: oh I see it, excellent05:24
Hobbseehehe :)05:24
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Riddellhello Blv3Watyr 05:25
\shUVF exceptions are coming from Mithrandir nowadays, as written in his last mail05:26
\shfor main05:26
Hobbseehey \sh 05:26
\shfor universe we have more time for uploads without approval, or?05:26
Blv3Watyrhello05:27
Hobbsee\sh: yeah, uni freeze is in a couple of months, iirc05:27
HobbseeRiddell: who did the latest amarok packages?  the build-dep libexcallibar* can be removed now, as they axed the moodbar05:35
RiddellHobbsee: I did the ones in edgy, which don't use libexcallibar05:36
HobbseeRiddell: ah, so it's just the dapper ones which can have that removed.05:36
Hobbseewho did them?  imbrandon?05:36
Riddelldunno, which ones are you looking at?05:36
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Hobbsee:P05:38
jpatrickI think that can be classified as pwnage05:39
Hobbseeheheheh05:39
Riddellas what?05:39
Hobbseejpatrick: there's a reason for the topic in #ubuntu-offtopic you know :P05:39
jpatrickHobbsee: I don't go there05:39
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Hobbseebah.  it changed.05:39
Hobbseenixternal: :P05:39
nixternaloh no, the big pointy stick05:39
Hobbseehehe!05:40
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nixternalif it isn't mr. Seveas himself ;)05:40
Hobbseenixternal: just watch out for Ubugtu chasing you with the big pointy stick - now that's scary05:40
Hobbseeooh, i can kick seveas from this channel too!  :D05:40
nixternallol..i remember..and that was quite funny05:40
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Hobbseehe'd be powerless, for once :D05:41
nixternali tried to get Ubugtu to attack his master and it didn't work05:41
Hobbseeyeah, it doesnt.05:41
Seveasnixternal, no, I'm just his 2nd personality05:41
Hobbseewe exploited it enough for Seveas to wokr all the bugs out :P05:41
nixternalhaha Seveas, no doubt..or vice versa ;)05:41
Hobbsee@lart 22 nixternal 05:42
nixternalhere we go05:42
Hobbseebah.  no fun05:42
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nixternallol05:42
nixternalwth05:42
SeveasHobbsee, only in #(k)ubuntu-offtopic05:42
HobbseeSeveas: yeah, i figured05:42
jpatrickSeveas: oh, that's no fun05:42
nixternalya, most of the devs are in offtopic, so they need to get chased with a big pointy stick as well...just to wake them up ;)05:43
Hobbseeheh05:43
nixternalarg... AREN'T in offtopic05:43
nixternalkubuntu that is05:43
nixternalok..im done05:43
HobbseeRiddell: dont worry, $user was using the wrong repo.05:43
jpatrickHobbsee: that's a nice thing to call them05:43
Hobbseejpatrick: generic name for user, seeing as i wasnt going to poitn them out by name.05:44
toma_|_evening folks05:44
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Hobbseehey toma 05:44
Hobbseenight all05:45
tomanite Hobbsee05:48
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Tonio_hey05:58
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jpatrickhey Tonio_05:58
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freeflying|awaykdelibs4-dev broken now06:18
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Riddelltoma: how come ellen.html isn't showing up on people.kde.nl?06:24
Riddellfreeflying|away: what's wrong with it?06:24
tomaRiddell: let me check06:24
tomaRiddell: because you did not commit it?06:25
Riddelltoma: did too06:26
Riddellrevision 1.106:26
Riddelldate: 2006-07-13 16:14:18 +0000;  author: jriddell;  state: Exp;06:26
RiddellAdd ellen06:26
tomaRiddell: can you show me a svn info ?06:27
Riddellit's in cvs remember06:27
tomathat one06:27
tomahmm06:27
tomahang on06:27
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Riddelltoma: http://pastebin.ca/8708206:29
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tomaRiddell: i triggered the update, should be there in a sec06:34
freeflying|awayRiddell: 06:38
freeflying|awayThe following packages have unmet dependencies:06:38
freeflying|away  kdelibs4-dev: Depends: libarts1-dev (>= 1.5.0) but it is not going to be installed06:38
freeflying|away                Depends: libopenexr-dev (>= 1.2.2-3) but it is not going to be installed06:38
freeflying|away                Depends: libqt3-mt-dev (>= 3:3.3.5) but it is not going to be installed06:38
freeflying|away                Depends: libavahi-qt3-dev (>= 0.4) but it is not going to be installed06:38
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Ramunashello07:39
freeflying|awayRiddell: ping07:40
Ramunasany ideas when new amarok will be added to repos?07:41
freeflying|awayRamunas: you can add kubuntu's repo to your sources07:42
Ramunasand won't new amarok be added to ubuntu's repos?07:42
Riddellfreeflying|away: hi07:44
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freeflying|awayRiddell: can I upload new package tomorrow?  :)07:44
Riddellfreeflying|away: main is frozen until knot 1 is out, universe is fine07:44
RiddellRamunas: it's in edgy07:44
Riddellfreeflying|away: kdelibs4-dev installs for me on a fresh edgy chroot07:45
freeflying|awayRiddell: okey, then I needn;t work on them till morning07:45
Ramunasah, so what repo do i need to add to get myself new amarok?07:46
freeflying|awayRiddell: I just update, and still can not install kdelibs4-dev07:46
RiddellRamunas: see kubuntu.org/announements and ask in #kubuntu07:47
Riddellhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/07:48
Ramunasok, thanks07:48
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apacheloggerTonio_: heya, already got a license? :P09:11
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tomaalleeHol: pings09:37
alleeHolalleeHol: pongs back09:37
tomaalleeHol: http://rafb.net/paste/results/tdXEUW55.html09:39
alleeHoltoma: whao. Cool!!!!!!!!  No we only need a -q options to create shorter text ready for cut & paste to NEWS ;)09:41
toma-q ?09:41
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tomawhat should it do09:42
alleeHol-q == quiet   strip everything that not needed for an announcement.09:43
alleeHolNice would be   $appname contains $totnum translastion: @list09:43
tomawhich is?09:44
tomaonly that outpur?09:44
alleeHolSince last release the @listupdates  translations are greatly enhanced09:44
alleeHolThanks to all translators:  @list of people last changed the po09:45
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tomak09:45
tomagive me an hour09:45
alleeHoltoma: My example above is just what I think is the right info to honour translators.  If translators want more/less fine with me.09:47
tomaalleeHol: comparing with the old tarball is a bit tricky09:47
tomaalleeHol: but i'll see what i can do09:48
alleeHoltoma: great!09:48
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tomaget back here allee10:34
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