[12:26] <pygi> kwwii, you still alive? :P
[12:29] <kwwii> yepp
[12:29] <kwwii> just about to send you an emai
[12:30] <pygi> oki, thanks kwwii :)
[12:36] <kwwii> erm, my wavelan has left me
[12:44] <kwwii> and with that, it is time for bed
[12:44] <kwwii> see you tomorrow
[12:59] <imbrandon>  m,oOOoooo.    mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmMMMMMM"""""""
[03:18] <bddebian> Heya
[03:35] <Hobbsee> morning all
[04:05] <Hobbsee> cool, i see kopete got uploaded :)
[04:06] <crimsun> np at all.
[04:13] <Hobbsee> heh
[04:20] <bddebian> Hobbsee: Now you know how I feel 24/7 :-)
[04:20] <Hobbsee> but you dont do idiotic things like that all the time.
[04:20] <bddebian> Bah
[04:31] <Hobbsee> bddebian: are you still touching your updated merges, or are they being done by someone else now?
[04:32] <bddebian> I haven't touched the updated ones no.  imview and hydrogen should be straight syncs now
[04:32] <Hobbsee> bddebian: okay
[04:34] <Hobbsee> bddebian: yeah, hydrogen's a sync.  you're not touching any of these packages anymore, right?
[04:35] <bddebian> Nope
[04:35] <bddebian> Not until I get my first merges done anyway :-)
[04:36] <Hobbsee> bddebian: you still going to approve syncs?
[04:36] <Hobbsee> yeah, you'd better do them
[04:37] <bddebian> I'd better do what?
[04:37] <Hobbsee> you'd better get your first merges done, if you had them sitting on your hard drive
[04:38] <bddebian> Oh, I have nothing sitting on my hard drive :-)
[04:38] <Hobbsee> oh dear...then where are they?
[04:38] <bddebian> Well some of them can't be done yet
[04:38] <Hobbsee> true
[04:40] <bddebian> stupid hamlib :-)
[04:40] <Hobbsee> ah, yes...so that's still dead.  excellent
[04:42] <bddebian> Are you looking for something to do? :-)
[04:42] <Hobbsee> bddebian: i'm building your hydrogen and about to hit yes to the sync, why do you ask?
[04:42] <Hobbsee> and doing a lot of updates
[04:44] <bddebian> Because you keep asking me about my packages :)
[04:45] <Hobbsee> bddebian: well, yeah, i'm otherwise sitting here adn doing nothing, and looking at the merges list.
[04:45] <bddebian> Hobbsee: Grab xcircuit.  I think it should be a sync now
[04:45] <Hobbsee> and because i know you're quitting, and wondering what's going to happen to the ones that are assigned to you.
[04:46] <bddebian> Oh poo, you can't get rid of me that easily :-)
[04:46] <bddebian> I was just whining
[04:46] <Hobbsee> bddebian: so you're not quiting?  oh good!
[04:46] <Hobbsee> back soon
[04:46] <bddebian> :-)
[05:01] <Hobbsee> and back :)
[05:06] <Hobbsee> bddebian: want to approve https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/hydrogen/+bug/52828 please?
[05:06] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 52828 in hydrogen "[Edgy MoM]  Please sync hydrogen 0.9.3-2 from Debian Sid" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  
[05:06] <Hobbsee> (antoher week, and i wont have to get approval! yay)
[05:08] <bddebian> Heh
[05:09] <bddebian> Hobbsee: Awfully sure of yourself aren't you? ;-)
[05:09] <Hobbsee> bddebian: well, i've had keybuk say yes, even though he hadnt been at the meeting, and i keep getting told that i should be a MOTU.
[05:10] <bddebian> I'm only kidding, I think you should be a shoe-in
[05:10] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:11] <nixternal> hiya Hobbsee
[05:11] <Hobbsee> bddebian: nasty. i'm clearly naieve today
[05:11] <nixternal> hiya bddebian
[05:12] <Hobbsee> hey nixternal!
[05:12] <bddebian> Bah, you'll be fine
[05:12] <bddebian> Heya nixternal
[05:12] <Hobbsee> bddebian: sure sure
[05:19] <Hobbsee> seaLne: ping?
[05:22] <Hobbsee> seaLne: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-thunderbird/+bug/52670 - see my comment
[05:22] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 52670 in mozilla-thunderbird "Thunderbird uses konqueror as web browser" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  
[05:25] <nixternal> http://home.comcast.net/~nixternal/images/misc/yakuake.jpg   <- hawt
[05:27] <bddebian> That is pretty cool
[05:28] <nixternal> that is my eyecandy ;)
[05:28] <erov> yeah i like nix
[05:28] <nixternal> i don't need no stinkin' compiz ;)
[05:28] <nixternal> ty
[05:34] <Hobbsee> bddebian: approve https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/imview/+bug/52832 too please?
[05:34] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 52832 in imview "[Edgy MoM]  Please sync imview 1.1.8-6 from Debian Sid" [Untriaged,Confirmed]  
[05:34] <bddebian> Hobbsee: Already done
[05:34] <Hobbsee> bddebian: oh, okay then.
[05:34] <Hobbsee> oops
[05:35] <bddebian> :-)
[05:35] <Hobbsee> bddebian: it's not on edgy changes yet, FYI
[05:35] <bddebian> Hobbsee: No, I meant already ack'd your bug :-)
[05:35] <Hobbsee> ah :P
[05:35] <Hobbsee> i just filed that one though
[05:36] <bddebian> I know, I saw it while filing a sync request for xmotd :-)
[05:36] <Hobbsee> ah
[05:36] <Hobbsee> :)
[06:24] <Hobbsee> bddebian: ack, dont know what happened to my brain there.  that'll sync
[06:28] <Hobbsee> Riddell: you changed your chroots on your system - which one can i use?
[06:39] <Hobbsee> *** YOU'RE USING autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.60.
[06:39] <Hobbsee> *** KDE requires autoconf 2.52, 2.53 or 2.54
[06:41] <bddebian> Probably a few
[06:42] <Hobbsee> bddebian: checking poly thingo now, which should be a sync
[06:42] <bddebian> OK
[06:43] <Hobbsee> do crimsu*n's thing in the meantime
[06:43] <crimsun> don't worry, unless you preface the line with my nick, the highlight doesn't go off
[06:43] <Hobbsee> ah
[06:56] <Hobbsee> how annoying
[07:00] <nixternal> good stuff
[07:56] <seaLne> Hobbsee: yeah i probably shouldn't have
[07:56] <seaLne> but he did improve after that
[08:09] <Hobbsee> seaLne: true.  oh, that's the guy that's been filing everything under kubuntu-meta?
[08:32] <freeflying|away> do we have firefox-themes-kubuntu?
[08:36] <Hobbsee> freeflying|away: we've got a few packages listed on the suggested packages page about it, but i'm not aware of any in the archives 
[08:36] <freeflying|away> Hobbsee: where is the list
[08:37] <Hobbsee> freeflying|away: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates/Kubuntu?action=show&redirect=KubuntuSuggestedPackages
[08:41] <freeflying|away> Hobbsee: thx
[08:41] <Hobbsee> :)
[08:44] <seaLne> i'd never noticed ksynaptics didn't do anything in dapper, oops
[08:45] <Hobbsee> seaLne: just speaking to the maintainer of that now :)
[08:46] <seaLne> i really must fix my desktop so i can stop using this work laptop
[08:46] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:46] <seaLne> i hate dieing hardware
[08:48] <seaLne> i once managed to break a replacement motherboard cpu and ram before discovering it was a faulty psu that killed everything, expensive learning experience
[09:19] <kwwii> moin
[09:19] <kwwii> Riddell: thanks for the warning
[09:19] <Riddell> morning kwwii 
[09:19] <Hobbsee> hey kwwii, Riddell 
[09:20] <Riddell> hi Hobbsee
[09:21] <Riddell> Hobbsee: where did that autoconf error happen?
[09:21] <Hobbsee> Riddell: thanks for that commit yesterday.  in k...something....
[09:21] <pygi> kwwii, mornin' :)
[09:21] <kwwii> moin all
[09:21] <Hobbsee> Riddell: ksensors
[09:25] <pygi> kwwii, care to send me mail?^_^
[09:26] <kwwii> pygi: did you see the stuff I posted last night?
[09:26] <pygi> kwwii, I haven't got nothing ? :P
[09:26] <pygi> you sure you sent to right mail?
[09:27] <kwwii> what was your address again?
[09:27] <pygi> mario (dot) danic (at) gmail (dot) com
[09:30] <pygi> kwwii, shoots also please cause I am not on KDE machine right now? ^_^
[09:30] <kwwii> ok, give me a while and I will make them
[09:30] <pygi> k, thanks
[09:35] <Hobbsee> Riddell: http://rafb.net/paste/results/tuzY1k28.html is the full error for automake
[09:50] <\sh> grmpf
[09:50] <imbrandon_> moins \sh
[09:50] <\sh> I really need to patch ktorrent
[09:50] <imbrandon_> heh merge ?
[09:50] <\sh>         rm -f translations/nb/messages/*.po in clean is not good enough...
[09:51] <Riddell> \sh: hmm, if it's in clean it'll probably get recreated when the .orig is unzipped
[09:51] <Riddell> \sh: try putting it into install
[09:52] <\sh> Riddell: well, it breaks, because clean is executed during the first run, then build rule comes and tries to build this...and failes
[09:53] <\sh> Riddell: I put it now at the end of install rule
[09:53] <Riddell> right
[09:53] <Riddell> good luck :)
[09:54] <\sh> we are awaiting our product launch....in 6 minutes we are starting our show :)
[09:54] <Riddell> just time for a quick ktorrent upload then :)
[10:04] <Riddell> autoconf 2.6 look like being a whole lot of fun
[10:28] <fabo> is there a kubuntu net install iso ?
[10:29] <Riddell> fabo: same as ubuntu one
[10:29] <fabo> Riddell: ok, thks
[10:30] <Riddell> fabo: secret ruins near bottom of https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFiles
[10:44] <fabo> Riddell: nice, successfully installed with a 7.4M iso
[10:48] <Riddell> that was fast
[10:50] <fabo> finished only the base install system
[10:51] <fabo> Riddell: have you received my mail about strigi ?
[10:52] <Riddell> not that I've noticed
[10:53] <Riddell> I see Subject: rev 4105 - in kde-extras/strigi: tags tags/0.3.2-2/debian though, which is excellent :)
[10:53] <fabo> accepted yesterday in debian, i'll upload it today on revu
[10:54] <Riddell> fabo: any first impressions of strigi?
[10:54] <Riddell> beagle killer?
[10:55] <fabo> Riddell: nice tool, working (remember kat story...)
[10:55] <fabo> the ratio data index size / data size is ok
[10:56] <fabo> my index size is ~500 Mb for 5Go of data
[10:56] <fabo> really fast with clucene
[10:56] <Riddell> sounds promising
[10:56] <Riddell> user interface sane?
[10:57] <fabo> qt4 client don't have many features, but kde3 applet is really nice
[10:57] <fabo> and there's some other cool feature in svn :)
[10:58] <fabo> added to kde3 applet ;)
[10:59] <fabo> configurable tabs to the html gui
[10:59] <fabo> ~/.strigi/tabqueries can contain predefined queries, that are appended to the given query
[11:00] <fabo> e.g. adding a line 'Ogg\tmimetype:audio/ogg' adds a tab with ogg files
[12:05] <seaLne> could someone try building http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2696 on amd64?
[12:08] <Riddell> seaLne: doing
[12:13] <Riddell> seaLne: same problem
[12:14] <Riddell> seaLne: if I run  find . -name *moc.o | xargs rm  it all works
[12:14] <seaLne> oops i was deleting 1 dir down
[12:14] <Riddell> seaLne: those .moc.o files need to be removed from the .orig
[12:15] <seaLne> Riddell: apparently upstream don't care, there is also .svn everywhere
[12:16] <Tm_Konvi> moin
[12:16] <Riddell> seaLne: have you been in contact with them?
[12:16] <seaLne> i asked on irc awhile ago
[12:16] <Riddell> seaLne: lovely.  I'd delete the files and remake the .orig and note it in the changelog
[12:17] <Riddell> you can also delete them in the configure rule of debian/rules
[12:17] <seaLne> dleting in clean not good enough?
[12:17] <Riddell> seaLne: no, they'll get recreated on uncompressing the .orig in the buildds
[12:17] <seaLne> ah :)
[12:19] <seaLne> what does "dpkg-source: warning: ignoring deletion of file...." mean?
[12:19] <Riddell> seaLne: exactly that
[12:19] <seaLne> that was in configure
[12:19] <Riddell> the files are still in the .orig so they'll be recreated when that gets unzipped
[12:19] <Riddell> if they're then deleted in the configure rule all should be well
[12:45] <seaLne> Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2698
[12:48] <Riddell> seaLne: that fails to compile, it doesn't run configure
[12:48] <Riddell> looks like the .orig has Makefile's in it
[12:49] <seaLne> ok, i'll look more closely at it
[12:49] <Riddell> needs make distclean run or something
[01:07] <kwwii> re
[01:29] <imbrandon> Riddell, if your not to busy mind poking http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2695 so i grab crimsun or someone to upload 
[01:29] <imbrandon> ;)
[01:35] <Riddell> imbrandon: done
[01:35] <imbrandon> Riddell, thanks ;)
[01:42] <fabo> a pbuilder create gives me dpkg-parsechangelog: error: cannot open debian/changelog to find format ... Cannot understand package version/source , any idea ?
[01:44] <Riddell> fabo: for edgy?
[01:48] <fabo> Riddell: i have dapper, i tried to create pbuilder dapper and also edgy, same result
[01:50] <Riddell> dapper always worked for me
[01:52] <fabo> Riddell: right after a fresh install of dapper, i installed pbuilder, then sudo pbuilder create and my error
[01:54] <fabo> ah no something changed my .pbuilderrc
[01:55] <fabo> removing .pbuilderrc works ...
[01:55] <Riddell> phew
[01:56] <fabo> next step upgrade to edgy ...
[02:20] <Riddell> fabo: how come guidance is only build for threearches in experimental?
[02:34] <Hobbsee> hi all
[02:36] <Riddell> hi Hobbsee 
[02:36] <Hobbsee> hi Riddell!
[02:36] <Riddell> Hobbsee: the autoconf 2.60 issue looks like it'll be lots of fun
[02:36] <Riddell> you'll need a variant of this patch http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/autoconf2.60.diff
[02:36] <Hobbsee> Riddell: i'm back to torment everyone again :D
[02:36] <Hobbsee> ah.....
[02:37] <Hobbsee> fun that i didnt want to have, yes.
[02:38] <Hobbsee> Riddell: what do we do?  rename that, and use it as a patch?
[02:40] <Riddell> http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu_00_autoconf2.60.diff
[02:40] <Riddell> put it in debian/patches
[02:41] <Hobbsee> right, yeah
[02:41] <Hobbsee> got that much :)
[02:42] <Hobbsee> Riddell: this is going to need to be done for every single package, right?
[02:42] <Hobbsee> for all kde ones
[02:42] <Riddell> can't put it in cdbs, it's not a debian build system fix
[02:42] <Hobbsee> whenever we want to rebuild them, or a user builds from source
[02:42] <Hobbsee> ah right, so you cant have an automagic patch thing called from kde.mk
[02:42] <mornfall> you could, if there was a way to detect it's needed
[02:43] <Hobbsee> mornfall: all kde apps use kde.mk
[02:43] <Riddell> Hobbsee: packages don't always need autoconf run, only when the Makefile.am changes, and it'll be in kde 3.5.4
[02:43] <Hobbsee> dont they?
[02:43] <Hobbsee> ah...
[02:43] <Hobbsee> right
[02:43] <Hobbsee> which is...in a week or two.
[02:43] <Riddell> but yes it'll probably randomly crop up quite a bit
[02:43] <Hobbsee> right
[02:44] <Riddell> it'll still be a potential issue for all the packages not part of main KDE
[02:44] <Hobbsee> true
[02:45] <Hobbsee> Riddell: can that patch be applied against kde 3.5.3?  would that be an easier solution?
[02:45] <Hobbsee> or does it require a patch on all kde packages, or just one?
[02:45] <Riddell> it needs done to all kde packages that need to run autoconf
[02:46] <Riddell> so I'll try and not run autoconf on anything between now and 3.5.4 :)
[02:46] <Hobbsee> Riddell: oh bleh.  so how does kde 3.5.4 handle it?
[02:46] <Riddell> Hobbsee: it includes that patch
[02:46] <Hobbsee> Riddell: but that patch against what?  i think i'm missing something here
[02:47] <Riddell> the patch is again current KDE svn which is fixed for autoconf 2.60 support.  KDE 3.5.3 isn't and neither are any external KDE applications
[02:47] <Hobbsee> as in, kde 3.5.4 fixes it in such a way that it will be fixed for just the kde packages, but the kde universe will still need it?  or kde 3.5.4 fixes it so that all packages are fine, and that patch is never needed
[02:47] <Riddell> the fix is only per package
[02:47] <Hobbsee> right, okay then
[02:47] <fabo> Riddell: guidance is only on 3 arch because experimental builds have a low priority
[02:48] <Hobbsee> Riddell: and when dont we need the patch again?
[02:48] <Riddell> Hobbsee: you don't need it if autoconf isn't run, so if the package has no patches against Makefile.am or configure.in.in files you should be fine
[02:48] <Hobbsee> Riddell: right, yeah.
[02:48] <Hobbsee> hey linuxmonkey 
[02:49] <Hobbsee> Riddell: sorry - not really meaning to boss you around here - but i've just come from work, where i have been bossing people around, and i'm still trying to understand :P
[02:49] <linuxmonkey> came home to sleep, just woke up and back to hospital in a few hours
[02:50] <Riddell> Hobbsee: ksensors has this line in the debian/rules file "$(MAKE) -f admin/Makefile.common" which is what runs autoconf, so that'll need the patch
[02:50] <Hobbsee> Riddell: yep, true, kcemirror too, i think
[02:50] <Riddell> fun
[02:50] <Riddell> fabo: right
[02:52] <Hobbsee> i wonder how you patch with debhelper.
[02:56] <Riddell> Hobbsee: hang on..
[02:57] <linuxmonkey> lol
[02:58] <Hobbsee> Riddell: take your time, i'm still eating dinner at the moment anyway, and reading the meeting logs
[02:58] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:59] <linuxmonkey> Hobbsee:  what you running Ubuntu or Kubuntu or something else
[02:59] <Hobbsee> linuxmonkey: kubuntu. of course.
[02:59] <Hobbsee> dapper
[02:59] <jjesse> anything good in the meeting logs?
[03:00] <linuxmonkey> yeah, you got fired... Hobbsee got yer job and I wont 1000000$
[03:00] <linuxmonkey> won*
[03:00] <Hobbsee> i'm reading the CC first, then the dev meeting
[03:00] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:00] <linuxmonkey> lol
[03:00] <jjesse> oh that sounds like a busy meeting :0
[03:04] <Riddell> Hobbsee: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/patch-rules  copy and paste the chunk from configure-stamp and clean
[03:08] <Riddell> I mean just copy the 8 lines below # Apply Debian specific patches
[03:08] <Riddell> and # Remove Debian specific patches
[03:14] <Hobbsee> Riddell: where in the rules does the first block need to go?  i dont seem to have a configure stamp thing
[03:15] <Riddell> Hobbsee: put it in build-stamp: then below dh_testdir
[03:15] <Hobbsee> ah
[03:31] <Hobbsee> oh good!  it built!
[03:37] <Hobbsee> Riddell: that ended up working fine
[03:38] <Riddell> barry
[03:41] <Hobbsee> barry?
[03:42] <Riddell> aye
[03:43] <Hobbsee> Riddell: would you like to do an upload for me?  please?
[03:43] <Hobbsee> or should i wait a week?  :p
[03:43] <imbrandon> heh
[03:45] <Riddell> Hobbsee: sure
[03:45] <imbrandon> dpkg-source -x smart_0.41+svn727-1.dsc
[03:45] <Hobbsee> Riddell: http://rafb.net/paste/results/fOXp2r63.html
[03:45] <imbrandon> doh
[03:46] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: hehe
[03:46] <imbrandon> ;) 
[04:13] <Riddell> Hobbsee: ksensors uploaded
[04:13] <Riddell> that pastebin is annoying, it changes to windows lineendings
[04:14] <Hobbsee> Riddell: thanks :)
[04:14] <Hobbsee> Riddell: okay, i'll go back to using pastebin.ca
[04:18] <mornfall> never happened to me (althuogh i don't usually use pastebins to exchange files)
[04:20] <Hobbsee> Riddell: how would i go about getting a package to be rebuilt in the dapper archives?  is it worth doing, to fix an "unable to uninstall" bug?
[04:20] <Riddell> Hobbsee: what's the package?
[04:20] <Hobbsee> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kcemirror/+bug/51484
[04:20] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 51484 in kcemirror "uninstall fails in dapper and edgy" [Untriaged,Fix released]  
[04:21] <Hobbsee> i'm not positive it is just fixed with a rebuild, and i havent checked it yet, but it is fixed with a rebuild in edgy, and i remember seeing that as the fix for some other ones of these
[04:23] <Hobbsee> nixternal: you went for ubuntu membership.  we dont get to ack you then :(
[04:26] <Riddell> Hobbsee: make a minimal patch against the dapper version and I'll propose it for dapper-updates
[04:27] <jjesse> is there a deadline for dapperupdates?
[04:27] <Hobbsee> Riddell: gotcha.  which means adding build1 to the changelog, i presume
[04:27] <Hobbsee> jjesse: dapper EOL.
[04:27] <Hobbsee> :P
[04:27] <jjesse> grin thanks Hobbsee
[04:27] <Hobbsee> hehehe
[04:28] <jjesse> Riddell: i just got the final textfor the chapter 7 Official Ubuntu book so i'm going to be sending it to mdke to see if he can get a html complete with the correct images created
[04:32] <Riddell> Hobbsee: no, changes to code mean ubuntuX change
[04:32] <Riddell> Hobbsee: and probably ubuntu0.1 for an update
[04:33] <Hobbsee> Riddell: but it's just a rebuild, like you did for your libsomething transition at the beginning of dapper
[04:34] <Hobbsee> hang on, isnt 1ubuntu1 > 1ubuntu0.1?
[04:34] <Hobbsee> or are you meaning bump it to 1ubuntu1.1?
[04:35] <Riddell> yes
[04:36] <Riddell> Hobbsee: do you know why a rebuild fixes it?
[04:36] <jjesse> ooo 544 packages need updated on my move from dapper to edgy :)
[04:37] <Hobbsee> Riddell: because they borked the dh_iconcache stuff, and so the first block of packages to go thru required a rebuild, so the uninstall would work - #ICONDIR# didnt get expanded in the dh_iconcache code, so anything that hasnt been rebuilt since putting it in, for those packages that were affected, still has that bug
[04:37] <Hobbsee> there was a bug in malone for it, but my malone searching foo isnt up to scratch.
[04:38] <jjesse> any bug found in malone for adept should be moved to bugs.kde.org correct? and if so how do you do that/
[04:38] <Hobbsee> jjesse: report it upstream, link it with the "upstream" button in malone
[04:38] <jjesse> confirm it first :)
[04:39] <Hobbsee> well, yeah
[04:40] <Riddell> Hobbsee: right, wait until mdz is awake then ask him if it's ok then you can upload it
[04:40] <Hobbsee> Riddell: in fact, i remember kcemirror being on that list, i'm not sure why it never got redone.
[04:40] <Hobbsee> Riddell: mdz is in...europe somewhere?
[04:49] <jjesse> hmm just tried to update to edgy through the command line and got an error.  working on pastebining it
[04:51] <Hobbsee> jjesse: working on pastebinning it?  if you can reproduce the error, pipe the entire command to a file, then pastebin the file?
[04:51] <jjesse> will do
[04:51] <Hobbsee> er, pipe the output from the command to a file?
[04:52] <Riddell> Hobbsee: east cost US, should be awake in an hour or so
[04:52] <jjesse> Riddell: its 10:52 am in the east cost usa :)
[04:53] <jjesse> west coast USA is 3 more hours behind so should be just waking up
[04:53] <Riddell> shouldn't be long then :)
[04:53] <Riddell> oh, I mean west
[04:53] <Hobbsee> Riddell: ah, right.  US is easier to coordinate with timezone-wise anyway - UK/Europe is the real problem one, iirc
[04:53] <jjesse> hmm my upgrade couldn't find adept but now it is working
[04:54] <mornfall> jjesse: not any, only valid and useful ones
[04:54] <Hobbsee> jjesse: i'm more worried if it cant find apt.  you used adept for the upgrade?
[04:54] <jjesse> no used apt
[04:54] <Hobbsee> ah
[04:54] <jjesse> mornfall: how bout a bug on a missing translation of adept, do i move that to b.k.o or leave it on malone
[04:55] <jjesse> bug #51609
[04:55] <mornfall> missing translations are not my concern
[04:55] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 51609 in adept "Broken translation" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/51609
[04:55] <mornfall> if there's an i18n missing, that's a problem
[04:55] <mornfall> if libept.mo is not loaded, that's a problem too
[04:55] <jjesse> how would i know?
[04:56] <Hobbsee> Riddell: oh yes, which chroot are we building on, if we're using your machine?  edgy, or edgy new?
[04:56] <mornfall> well, that's the idea -- someone who knows sorts out those malone bugs so i don't have to
[04:56] <Riddell> Hobbsee: edgy
[04:57] <Hobbsee> Riddell: thanks :)   i was going to use it earlier, with the main stuff i was doing last night, but couldnt find where i'd been, and didnt want to guess wrong about what to use
[04:58] <mornfall> jjesse: basically, that's job of maintainer in debian -- sort out bugs they get and file relevant ones upstream
[05:04] <nixternal> moins everyone!!!
[05:04] <Riddell> "There is %n updates available" if the %n is showing to the user that seems like adept's fault
[05:04] <Riddell> although I can't think why it would show to the user, it works in English
[05:05] <nixternal> Hobbsee: you just might get to ack me cuz i haven't heard anything about the membership ;(
[05:05] <Hobbsee> nixternal: didnt they vote on you?
[05:05] <nixternal> partially i guess ;)
[05:05] <nixternal> waiting on mako
[05:05] <nixternal> lol
[05:06] <Hobbsee> ah
[05:06] <Hobbsee> i hate that - when they dont actually have quorum
[05:06] <Hobbsee> nixternal: i'd probably ask about that, when you see mako
[05:06] <nixternal> mako is online, just ever around
[05:06] <nixternal> s/ever/never
[05:07] <Hobbsee> ah
[05:08] <nixternal> fill me in, why don't you get to ack me?
[05:08] <mornfall>     QToolTip::add(this, n == 0 ? i18n( "No updates needed." )
[05:08] <mornfall>                   : i18n( "There is %n updated package available",
[05:08] <mornfall>                           "There are %n updated packages available", n ) );
[05:08] <mornfall> Riddell: that should work, no?
[05:08] <mornfall> unless someone mucked with i18n
[05:08] <Hobbsee> nixternal: because there's no specific point in being a kubuntu member, if you're already a ubuntu one.  iirc.  except an email address
[05:09] <nixternal> ahhh yes true
[05:09] <nixternal> hmmm...i like the Kubuntu one though ;(  its all about the K + the Ubuntu ;)
[05:10] <Hobbsee> true
[05:11] <Riddell> mornfall: I'd say so, works in English
[05:11] <Riddell> mornfall: but I also can't see anything wrong with the way it's been translated
[05:11] <Riddell> quite a mystery
[05:15] <Hobbsee> Riddell: ping?  feel like an upload?
[05:18] <Riddell> Hobbsee: I'd love to
[05:18] <Hobbsee> Riddell: :D http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2699
[05:18] <Hobbsee> Riddell: you only get to be poked by me for uploads for another 5 or so days :)
[05:19] <Hobbsee> well, simple ones to universe, anyway.
[05:22] <Riddell> Hobbsee: you need to get mdz's permission first (although I confirm it fixes the problem)
[05:23] <Hobbsee> Riddell: keybuk said kamion's was just as good.
[05:23] <Hobbsee> want the log of it?
[05:24] <Riddell> Hobbsee: oh I see it, excellent
[05:24] <Hobbsee> hehe :)
[05:25] <Riddell> hello Blv3Watyr 
[05:26] <\sh> UVF exceptions are coming from Mithrandir nowadays, as written in his last mail
[05:26] <\sh> for main
[05:26] <Hobbsee> hey \sh 
[05:26] <\sh> for universe we have more time for uploads without approval, or?
[05:27] <Blv3Watyr> hello
[05:27] <Hobbsee> \sh: yeah, uni freeze is in a couple of months, iirc
[05:35] <Hobbsee> Riddell: who did the latest amarok packages?  the build-dep libexcallibar* can be removed now, as they axed the moodbar
[05:36] <Riddell> Hobbsee: I did the ones in edgy, which don't use libexcallibar
[05:36] <Hobbsee> Riddell: ah, so it's just the dapper ones which can have that removed.
[05:36] <Hobbsee> who did them?  imbrandon?
[05:36] <Riddell> dunno, which ones are you looking at?
[05:38] <Hobbsee> :P
[05:39] <jpatrick> I think that can be classified as pwnage
[05:39] <Hobbsee> heheheh
[05:39] <Riddell> as what?
[05:39] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: there's a reason for the topic in #ubuntu-offtopic you know :P
[05:39] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: I don't go there
[05:39] <Hobbsee> bah.  it changed.
[05:39] <Hobbsee> nixternal: :P
[05:39] <nixternal> oh no, the big pointy stick
[05:40] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[05:40] <nixternal> if it isn't mr. Seveas himself ;)
[05:40] <Hobbsee> nixternal: just watch out for Ubugtu chasing you with the big pointy stick - now that's scary
[05:40] <Hobbsee> ooh, i can kick seveas from this channel too!  :D
[05:40] <nixternal> lol..i remember..and that was quite funny
[05:41] <Hobbsee> he'd be powerless, for once :D
[05:41] <nixternal> i tried to get Ubugtu to attack his master and it didn't work
[05:41] <Hobbsee> yeah, it doesnt.
[05:41] <Seveas> nixternal, no, I'm just his 2nd personality
[05:41] <Hobbsee> we exploited it enough for Seveas to wokr all the bugs out :P
[05:41] <nixternal> haha Seveas, no doubt..or vice versa ;)
[05:42] <Hobbsee> @lart 22 nixternal 
[05:42] <nixternal> here we go
[05:42] <Hobbsee> bah.  no fun
[05:42] <nixternal> lol
[05:42] <nixternal> wth
[05:42] <Seveas> Hobbsee, only in #(k)ubuntu-offtopic
[05:42] <Hobbsee> Seveas: yeah, i figured
[05:42] <jpatrick> Seveas: oh, that's no fun
[05:43] <nixternal> ya, most of the devs are in offtopic, so they need to get chased with a big pointy stick as well...just to wake them up ;)
[05:43] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:43] <nixternal> arg... AREN'T in offtopic
[05:43] <nixternal> kubuntu that is
[05:43] <nixternal> ok..im done
[05:43] <Hobbsee> Riddell: dont worry, $user was using the wrong repo.
[05:43] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: that's a nice thing to call them
[05:44] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: generic name for user, seeing as i wasnt going to poitn them out by name.
[05:44] <toma_|_> evening folks
[05:44] <Hobbsee> hey toma 
[05:45] <Hobbsee> night all
[05:48] <toma> nite Hobbsee
[05:58] <Tonio_> hey
[05:58] <jpatrick> hey Tonio_
[06:18] <freeflying|away> kdelibs4-dev broken now
[06:24] <Riddell> toma: how come ellen.html isn't showing up on people.kde.nl?
[06:24] <Riddell> freeflying|away: what's wrong with it?
[06:24] <toma> Riddell: let me check
[06:25] <toma> Riddell: because you did not commit it?
[06:26] <Riddell> toma: did too
[06:26] <Riddell> revision 1.1
[06:26] <Riddell> date: 2006-07-13 16:14:18 +0000;  author: jriddell;  state: Exp;
[06:26] <Riddell> Add ellen
[06:27] <toma> Riddell: can you show me a svn info ?
[06:27] <Riddell> it's in cvs remember
[06:27] <toma> that one
[06:27] <toma> hmm
[06:27] <toma> hang on
[06:29] <Riddell> toma: http://pastebin.ca/87082
[06:34] <toma> Riddell: i triggered the update, should be there in a sec
[06:38] <freeflying|away> Riddell: 
[06:38] <freeflying|away> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:38] <freeflying|away>   kdelibs4-dev: Depends: libarts1-dev (>= 1.5.0) but it is not going to be installed
[06:38] <freeflying|away>                 Depends: libopenexr-dev (>= 1.2.2-3) but it is not going to be installed
[06:38] <freeflying|away>                 Depends: libqt3-mt-dev (>= 3:3.3.5) but it is not going to be installed
[06:38] <freeflying|away>                 Depends: libavahi-qt3-dev (>= 0.4) but it is not going to be installed
[07:39] <Ramunas> hello
[07:40] <freeflying|away> Riddell: ping
[07:41] <Ramunas> any ideas when new amarok will be added to repos?
[07:42] <freeflying|away> Ramunas: you can add kubuntu's repo to your sources
[07:42] <Ramunas> and won't new amarok be added to ubuntu's repos?
[07:44] <Riddell> freeflying|away: hi
[07:44] <freeflying|away> Riddell: can I upload new package tomorrow?  :)
[07:44] <Riddell> freeflying|away: main is frozen until knot 1 is out, universe is fine
[07:44] <Riddell> Ramunas: it's in edgy
[07:45] <Riddell> freeflying|away: kdelibs4-dev installs for me on a fresh edgy chroot
[07:45] <freeflying|away> Riddell: okey, then I needn;t work on them till morning
[07:46] <Ramunas> ah, so what repo do i need to add to get myself new amarok?
[07:46] <freeflying|away> Riddell: I just update, and still can not install kdelibs4-dev
[07:47] <Riddell> Ramunas: see kubuntu.org/announements and ask in #kubuntu
[07:48] <Riddell> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/
[07:48] <Ramunas> ok, thanks
[09:11] <apachelogger> Tonio_: heya, already got a license? :P
[09:37] <toma> alleeHol: pings
[09:37] <alleeHol> alleeHol: pongs back
[09:39] <toma> alleeHol: http://rafb.net/paste/results/tdXEUW55.html
[09:41] <alleeHol> toma: whao. Cool!!!!!!!!  No we only need a -q options to create shorter text ready for cut & paste to NEWS ;)
[09:41] <toma> -q ?
[09:42] <toma> what should it do
[09:43] <alleeHol> -q == quiet   strip everything that not needed for an announcement.
[09:43] <alleeHol> Nice would be   $appname contains $totnum translastion: @list
[09:44] <toma> which is?
[09:44] <toma> only that outpur?
[09:44] <alleeHol> Since last release the @listupdates  translations are greatly enhanced
[09:45] <alleeHol> Thanks to all translators:  @list of people last changed the po
[09:45] <toma> k
[09:45] <toma> give me an hour
[09:47] <alleeHol> toma: My example above is just what I think is the right info to honour translators.  If translators want more/less fine with me.
[09:47] <toma> alleeHol: comparing with the old tarball is a bit tricky
[09:48] <toma> alleeHol: but i'll see what i can do
[09:48] <alleeHol> toma: great!
[10:34] <toma> get back here allee