[12:08] <Harmental> i'll deal with this detail next week..have to get a good sleep for camping tomorrow..
[12:08] <Harmental> bye everybody...
[12:09] <jimmy__> good luck
[12:09] <Smonkey> I have a bit of a stupid question for you guys.  Other than doing 'xset m 3/4 1', is there any way to make a mouse less sensitive?
[12:09] <jimmy__> dont wipe with the 3 leafed plant
[12:09] <Smonkey> Oh, and setting the Resolution option in my xorg.conf doesn't do the trick.
[12:09] <samuli> jimmy__, what plant is three leafed?
[12:10] <Smonkey> samuli: poison ivy
[12:10] <jimmy__> poison Ivy
[12:10] <Harmental> nop....healthy camp with my girl...just some bottles of wine and a french lake...
[12:10] <Harmental> jejejeee
[12:10] <erov> or for those who have become immune or already were.. it doesn't matter ;)
[12:10] <jimmy__> google poison ivy and you'll watch for it in your sleep
[12:11] <samuli> Smonkey, o-kay. I suspected it might be that.
[12:12] <chopin> folks: i'm a noob with kubuntu.  is there a package installer for firefox?
[12:13] <MrBallZ> hi , is there a FAQ or something, regarding the Audio Engines and the Sound Systems,  cause im confused with all that ... im currently having problems with Xine ..
[12:13] <Dasnipa] [> chopin, look in aptitude
[12:13] <chopin> thx
[12:13] <erov> the program adept in System->Adept
[12:13] <Smonkey> I don't know if any one noticed my question, but is there any way, other than using xset or the Resulution option for the mouse driver, to make a mouse less sensitive?
[12:14] <Cntryboy> Is there a macromedia flash program for kubuntu, I'm not talking about just editing files, i'm talking about making flash movies ect.
[12:15] <SpAwN> can anyone help me get my sound working.........
[12:15] <SpAwN> i have a onboard intel ac'97
[12:15] <erov> Cntryboy: www.kde-apps.org
[12:15] <MrBallZ> SpAwN: ask ubotu
[12:15] <erov> there is one, I had it for a while never installed it though
[12:15] <erov> search there
[12:15] <SpAwN> ubotu ac'97?
[12:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about ac'97? - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:16] <SpAwN> ubotu soundcard?
[12:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about soundcard? - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:16] <Cntryboy> erov: is that where I can do exactly like mac. flash does for windows..
[12:16] <Cntryboy> btw im not wanting the player
[12:16] <SpAwN> ubotu sound
[12:16] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:16] <gatekeeper> !sound
[12:16] <erov> dunno about exactly.. it's a work in progress.. but yes it was for DEVELOPING flash
[12:16] <Cntryboy> k
[12:17] <erov> Cntryboy: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=23696
[12:17] <erov> theres the link
[12:17] <MrBallZ> ubotu: xine
[12:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about xine - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:17] <Cntryboy> kk thx
[12:18] <SpAwN> brb
[12:20] <Cntryboy> erov: grr it's source I haven't compiled source yet and I don't wanna screw up my kernal
[12:20] <Cntryboy> lol
[12:20] <SpAwN> !sound
[12:20] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:20] <gatekeeper> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9854
[12:20] <erov> it wont screw up your kernel Cntryboy
[12:21] <erov> but.. i'll see what i can do
[12:22] <Cntryboy> k
[12:23] <SpAwN> k did what ubotu said and i still have no sound...........the sound card has worked in linux b4 and still does work,,,,,,,,,,
[12:23] <SpAwN> everything is turned up in the alsamixer except external apmlifier cuz it made my sound NOT work b4
[12:23] <MrBallZ> SpAwN: ubotu is a bot ... just responds , its not alive
[12:24] <SpAwN> MrBallZ, i am very aware that ubotu  is a infobot
[12:24] <gatekeeper> SpAwN: do you get sound if you go to system setting -> sound and press the test sound button?
[12:24] <erov> <- building f4l right now :)
[12:24] <SpAwN> gatekeeper, no
[12:25] <SpAwN> aplay -l shows 2 diff things
[12:25] <Cntryboy> is there an easy howto for compiling source? like from the bot
[12:25] <erov> there are lots.. install 'build-essential' first of all from the pkg repositories
[12:25] <Cntryboy> !compiling
[12:25] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:25] <erov> yeah there you go
[12:26] <erov> you want the compiled version? i just compiled it on i686 ...
[12:26] <Cntryboy> erov: what u just said about buildessentials first ect u lost me lol
[12:26] <erov> ok you know how to install programs with adept right?
[12:26] <SpAwN> i just dont understand that when i 1st installed kubuntu i got the sound to work,,,,and now the way i got it to work doesnt work
[12:26] <Cntryboy> erov: well I need to learn to do it I guess
[12:26] <Cntryboy> erov: yes
[12:27] <Cntryboy> how can I check to see if I have build essentials
[12:27] <Cntryboy> sound familar
[12:27] <erov> there is one called 'build-essential'
[12:27] <Cntryboy> grep | build-essential
[12:27] <Cntryboy> is that how to see if I have it
[12:27] <erov> it installs the things necessary to build programs (with exception to *-devel files that are needed when building for specific things)
[12:27] <z00m> anyone in here into security stress testing apps ?   im trying to use fuzz
[12:28] <erov> no.. just dont worry about it .. i'll give you the binary f4l if you want it
[12:28] <erov> then you can read the tutorials on how to do it later
[12:28] <erov> that way you can get to work on flash
[12:28] <Cntryboy> I have 2.1KB dude takes for ever
[12:28] <Cntryboy> dling this from the site is taking me awhile
[12:28] <erov> oh.. feh! :)
[12:29] <Cntryboy> I know you gotta type something like
[12:29] <erov> let me see how much i can get it compressed
[12:29] <erov> sudo apt-get build-essential
[12:29] <Cntryboy> sudo make; make install
[12:29] <Cntryboy> or something
[12:29] <erov> dont have to type sudo to make.. only to make install
[12:29] <Cntryboy> erov: I think I may have the b-essentials
[12:29] <Cntryboy> whats command to check pc to c
[12:29] <Cntryboy> search for stuff
[12:30] <erov> only way to search for what you have installed is open up adept and type in the first letters or scroll down to build and look
[12:30] <erov> it's either installed or not..
[12:30] <Cntryboy> kk, but I thought there was a command for search to
[12:30] <erov> also f4l uses c++ to compile so make sure you have g++ installed not sure if it is by default with build-essentials
[12:31] <erov> i got the bin compressed to 2.0mb if you want it.. last chance :D
[12:31] <Cntryboy> thx, but Im getting source
[12:32] <erov> k i just installed and ran it.. looks nice
[12:32] <Cntryboy> cool
[12:32] <Cntryboy> I hope its not bugy
[12:33] <Cntryboy> u sure I need build-essentials
[12:33] <erov> yes it's for compiling things
[12:34] <SpAwN> well i am compleatly out of ideas......this is driving me nuts.......................
[12:34] <Cntryboy> someone told me I don't need it for all compiling software
[12:34] <Cntryboy> but okay thx
[12:34] <Aji-Dahaka> hmm, is that edgy eff branched yet?  repos available?
[12:34] <erov> *shrug* its whatever man.. if you got the cd just install it from there.. but you can always try.. when you get the file
[12:34] <erov> then type 'make' you'll know then what you need
[12:35] <SpAwN> the only difference right now that i can see is for some reason it installed a 686 kernel....the 1st time i installed kubuntu it installed a 368 krnel....
[12:35] <z00m> calling all secuirty testers.... if you have used fuzz then please msg me!
[12:35] <z00m> security
[12:41] <Cntryboy> ok back
[12:41] <Cntryboy> got diss
[12:41] <Cntryboy> hey erov: u here?
[12:41] <Cntryboy> erov: I mean u still around
[12:42] <grizzly> adding /usr/bin/enlightenment to /etc/X11/default-display-manager does not work :(
[12:42] <grizzly> kwin is still the default
[12:43] <grizzly> actually afer the first reboot, kubuntu booted into console. /etc/init.d/kdm start started kwin
[12:43] <Cntryboy> erov: ya here man?
[12:44] <Cntryboy> is there anyone here??
[12:44] <Cntryboy> this channel is always so quiet compared to ubuntu
[12:45] <Kr4t05> Okay, does someone want to help me out with my fstab?
[12:45] <grizzly> Just tell me if I am doing something wrong?
[12:45] <grizzly> plz
[12:47] <Cntryboy> grizzly: u might wanna try ubuntu
[12:47] <DrBair> where would one request an updated package to be included in universe?
[12:47] <Cntryboy> seems more ppl help there
[12:47] <DrBair> Kr4t05: whats up with the fstab?
[12:47] <Kr4t05> I try to mount /dev/hdc1 (which is ext2) and when I click the icon on my desktop, it gives me. "Could not mount device. The reported error was: [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab  mount: only root can mount /dev/hdc1 on /mnt/music"
[12:47] <erov> yeah whats up Cntry
[12:47] <Cntryboy> http://pastebin.ca/86489 is my term msg for installing build essentials
[12:47] <h3sp4wn> grizzly: You trying to add e-17 as an option to kdm ?
[12:48] <Cntryboy> does it mean I have it? I don't remember dling it but it does look familar
[12:48] <Kr4t05> DrBair, I'll paste my fstab to pastebin.
[12:48] <grizzly> NO E16 as the default window manager ( replace kwin)
[12:48] <darkphader> Kr4t05: is the user option specified in fstab
[12:48] <DrBair> Kr4t05: in the fstab add either auto or user to the options for that device
[12:48] <DrBair> and add a newline to the bottom of the file
[12:48] <erov> Cntryboy: yep it's installed
[12:48] <erov> looks good
[12:49] <h3sp4wn> grizzly: No idea I use e-17
[12:49] <Cntryboy> erov: okay so do I type make install then next line sudo make install: or make install; sudo make install
[12:49] <Cntryboy> oops I typoed that
[12:49] <erov> make ; sudo make install
[12:49] <grizzly> h3sp4wn: SO how do you make it default?
[12:49] <erov> in the directory of the Makefile (which you can see by a simple 'ls'
[12:49] <Cntryboy> space b4 and after ;  ?
[12:49] <h3sp4wn> grizzly: I don't use it with kde
[12:50] <grizzly> Oh
[12:50] <Cntryboy> erov its on my desktop first I have to untar it
[12:50] <erov> k
[12:50] <erov> untar it.. then while in that directory
[12:50] <DrBair> what are some good 3rd party repos that have more uptodate packages?
[12:51] <erov> type 'make' then after that finishes 'sudo make install' or just 'cd bin' then './f4l' to test it out before you install it
[12:51] <erov> it puts the output binary into a directory in the f4l directory temporarily.. "bin"
[12:52] <h3sp4wn> grizzly: I just use it on its own - entry in /usr/share/xsessions/e17.desktop Maybe you could adapt that to use it instead of kwin
[12:52] <Cntryboy> do I need to ./configure or anything
[12:52] <Cntryboy> let me pull that site up I never got to look at it
[12:52] <Cntryboy> !compiling
[12:52] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:52] <erov> no not for this package you dont
[12:52] <erov> it has no configure script or anything.. just a Makefile
[12:53] <erov> usually they do have a configure script though. . you are correct on that note.. just not in this case
[12:54] <Cntryboy> erov: I tried tar -zxvf (filename) and I got an error
[12:54] <erov> ok try this
[12:54] <erov> bzip2 -d (filename)
[12:54] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~/Desktop$ tar -zxvf f4l-0.2.1.tar.bz2
[12:54] <Cntryboy> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[12:54] <erov> then tar xvf (filename)
[12:54] <erov> it's not a gzip it's a bzip2
[12:55] <Cntryboy> ive used same command for bzip2 b4
[12:55] <Cntryboy> grr linux is a pain sometimes
[12:55] <erov> well just try what i said.. and trust me ;) i never have used zxvf for bzip2
[12:55] <erov> but.. thats just me.
[12:55] <Hawkwind> tar xjvf for bz2 files
[12:55] <Cntryboy> so type bzip2 -d (filename)
[12:55] <erov> ok xjvf
[12:55] <erov> what Hawkwind said
[12:56] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: tar xjvf f4l-0.2.1.tar.bz2
[12:56] <Cntryboy> okay so forget the z and add a j then?
[12:56] <Hawkwind> Correct
[12:56] <erov> yes bz2/gz two diff. formats
[12:56] <Cntryboy> whats difference in -a;slk and a;lk
[12:56] <Hawkwind> z is for .tar.gz and j is for .tar.bz2
[12:56] <Cntryboy> the minus
[12:56] <Hawkwind> The - is obsolete
[12:56] <Cntryboy> got ya hawk so whats the minus mean
[12:56] <Hawkwind> Leave the - out
[12:56] <Cntryboy> do I have to?
[12:56] <SpAwN> k ive just read like 50 threads on the ubuntu forum......and none work.................im starting to think that im not gonna get sound to work...but i cant live without sound
[12:56] <Hawkwind> It does nothing
[12:57] <Cntryboy> thats what confuses me when to put minus and when not
[12:57] <Hawkwind> Why use something that does nothing ?  Save yourself some typing
[12:57] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: You NEVER need the -, it's obsolete
[12:57] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: roger
[12:58] <erov> SpAwN: you say this happened when you upgraded kernels?
[12:59] <SpAwN> erov, no....i installed jubuntu about a week ago...sound didnt work at 1st.....but i got it to.....and for for reason it installed 368 kernel.....i reinstalled lastnight.....and for some reason its installed a 686 kernel
[12:59] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Is your card detected ?  Do files play ?  Have you checked ALL settings in alsamixer to make sure none are muted(red dot) and that none are turned all the way down ?
[12:59] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, aplay -l shows devices...and ive tried alsamixer........everything is on and up all the way
[12:59] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: So install a 386 kernel.  Does your system do HT/SMP that you need the 686 kernel ?
[12:59] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: You sure there are no red dots in alsamixer ?
[01:00] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, wxcept external amp....which if i tunrn on it sitll doens t work
[01:00] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: There is a known problem that there is one thing that is muted that causes sound not to work
[01:00] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, the 1st time i got sound working i had to turn off external amp
[01:01] <SpAwN> and downmix is off i cnat turn on with m....
[01:01] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: It's just something simple you're missing and/or overlooking
[01:01] <Hawkwind> If it's worked before then it'll work again
[01:01] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, i thought at 1st man.....but ive done everything
[01:01] <tristan> what is the gedit for kubuntu
[01:02] <SpAwN> ive tripled checked everything...ive tried alsamixer as toor..
[01:02] <Hawkwind> Try kmix and see if anything in there is muted
[01:02] <Cntryboy> erov: i just opend that page for compiling and it talks about cvs do I need this and what is it?
[01:02] <Hawkwind> tristan: Huh ?
[01:02] <Hawkwind> tristan: kate, kwrite, or any other editor.  You can install gedit if you want
[01:02] <tristan> oh ok
[01:03] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Again, if it worked once then it'll work again.  It's just something you're over looking
[01:03] <SpAwN> in kmix under input what should it be?
[01:03] <erov> Cntryboy: no cntry just do what i said man its that simple..
[01:03] <Cntryboy> okay im going to type make
[01:03] <Cntryboy> then sudo make install
[01:03] <Cntryboy> 2 lines
[01:04] <tristan> hawkwin when I use "sudo kwrite somefile" why do I get errors, it says Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device
[01:04] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~/Desktop/f4l-0.2.1$ make
[01:04] <Cntryboy> make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'.  Stop.
[01:04] <Hawkwind> tristan: kdesu kwrite somefile
[01:05] <SpAwN> well everything is up and not muted.....kmix says everything unmuted and turned on.............still no sound..........i dont get any kinda sound....no logon noise nothing,,,,,,,,
[01:05] <Cntryboy> erov: ya see that error
[01:06] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Are you sure the speakers are plugged in properly, turned on, turned up
[01:06] <SpAwN> i can play a mp3 it plasy...but no sound
[01:06] <erov> well then you also need libqt3-headers , libqt3-mt, libqt3-mt-dev packages installed
[01:06] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Then something somewhere is muted man.  You just have to find it
[01:06] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, yes the cord goes right into the correct jack.......the power light is on and the volum is up half way
[01:07] <tristan> Hawkwind, still getting the same errors
[01:07] <erov> those are for developing qt3 packages and are need to compile the source for qt programs (like this f4l)
[01:07] <SpAwN> well i can say for a 100000000000% fact that kmix and alsamixer say everything is up and not muted
[01:07] <Cntryboy> erov: grr
[01:07] <Cntryboy> can I download all of them in one command line?
[01:08] <Cntryboy> instead of doing each seperate
[01:08] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: In alsamixer do you see any 00 with a green background ?
[01:08] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: Yes
[01:08] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, yes
[01:08] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: sudo apt-get install file1 file2 file3
[01:08] <SpAwN> on everysingle one
[01:08] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: 00 with a green background means they are MUTED
[01:08] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: space after each file name
[01:08] <Cntryboy> and thats it right
[01:09] <erov> yes
[01:09] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: Just like I typed it d00d
[01:09] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, hows that i can take a screen pic............at the top it doesnt say muted
[01:09] <Cntryboy> k
[01:09] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Sorry, I was backwards
[01:09] <erov> now you see why i offered the bin :)
[01:09] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: If you have ALL of them with green backgrounds then that is probably your problem
[01:10] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: You need to hit M on each of them one by one while playing a file with the sound turned up.  Chances are your sound will come up.  Or hit M for one, raise the bars a bit.  It's an alsamixer setting you have wrong
[01:10] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, i have a txt file on how i got sound to wokr the 1st time....i did it the same exact way...and still no sound
[01:10] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Then it's an alsamixer setting
[01:10] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: I've seen this a million times
[01:10] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, what a pain in the arse
[01:10] <Cntryboy> K getting it
[01:11] <SpAwN> in alsamixer do i need to hit esc for the changed to take affect?
[01:11] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: You shouldn't
[01:11] <coachJ> can someone tell me what the PS plugging for Aero-aio is/does?
[01:12] <chopin> so ... is firefox supposed to be on adept?
[01:12] <erov> chopin: yes
[01:13] <Cntryboy> erov: I get same error when I type make
[01:13] <chopin> i'm kinda lost ... should i do a package update or something to see it?
[01:13] <Cntryboy> erov: and I've installed those pkages
[01:13] <coachJ> maybe repos?
[01:14] <Hawkwind> chopin: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[01:14] <chopin> SWEET
[01:14] <chopin> thx Hawkwind
[01:14] <Hawkwind> chopin: Assuming you have enabled multiverse and universe
[01:14] <chopin> hmmmm
[01:14] <Hawkwind> !multiverse
[01:14] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:15] <z00m> need some help mounting my usb pen drive
[01:15] <z00m> how do i mount it as root
[01:15] <Hawkwind> z00m: What device does it show up as ?
[01:15] <Hawkwind> z00m: And what FS is it formatted as ?
[01:15] <erov> argh.. Cntry.. this is why i didnt want you to get into compiling without reading up and getting a feel first.. I don't know what to tell you.. I suppose you can try 'sudo ldconfig' to refresh the libraries other than that I don't know.. I have a massive amount of development files installed cause I compile things regularly..
[01:15] <z00m> media:/sdc1
[01:15] <Ash-Fox> mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/device
[01:15] <z00m> Hawkwind: i have some files in a folder called z00ms-files
[01:16] <z00m> they are just showing as 0bytes in size
[01:16] <Hawkwind> z00m: sudo mkdir /mnt/pen && mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/pen
[01:16] <Hawkwind> z00m: Might need to do mount -t auto /dev/sdc1 /mnt/pen possibly
[01:17] <chopin> heheh ... okay, so i see ff in adept but i can't click it.  ?
[01:17] <Hawkwind> chopin: Use apt-get from CLI.  It makes life so much easier
[01:17] <sergio> da da da
[01:17] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: I get that same error calling on qt3, but I installed the 3 files needed as erov said
[01:17] <Hawkwind> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox and you're done
[01:17] <chopin> k thx
[01:17] <sergio> hello
[01:17] <ranunculoid> How do I install the new java in kubuntu? I ran the .bin file but Azureus is still using java 1.4 and is very unstable
[01:18] <jakykong> does anyone know how to find out what drivers are currently loaded for a sound card?
[01:18] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: I haven't been keeping up with what you are doing in the beginning so I don't know unless you start from the beginning
[01:18] <Cntryboy> trying to compile for first time
[01:18] <Cntryboy> its a flash program
[01:18] <Hawkwind> !java > ranunculoid
[01:18] <Ash-Fox> Anyone know of a nice LaTeX editor which runs as a K application?
[01:18] <z00m> Hawkwind
[01:18] <erov> Hawkwind: he's trying to compile f4l flash 4 linux editor.. http://f4l.sourceforge.net/
[01:18] <sergio> sudo update-alternatives java
[01:18] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: when i type make I get this error : make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', ne            eded by `Makefile'.  Stop.
[01:18] <z00m> not working its just made  a dir called pen with nothing in it
[01:19] <sergio> that way you tell the system which vm use, renunculoid
[01:19] <Hawkwind> z00m: Did you do the mount command as sudo ?
[01:19] <Hawkwind> z00m: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/pen
[01:19] <jakykong> does anyonu know how to find out what drivers are currently loaded?
[01:20] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: I would suggest until you know what you are doing that you don't compile things at all.  Use debs that are prebuilt
[01:20] <Hawkwind> jakykong: No need to repeat yourself
[01:20] <Hawkwind> jakykong: lsmod might be of some help
[01:20] <Hawkwind> jakykong: lsmod | grep sound
[01:20] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: I gotta learn sometime, if I wouldn't get stupid errors
[01:20] <z00m> Hawkwind: its still showing the files as 0bytes
[01:20] <z00m> why is that
[01:20] <erov> Cntryboy: Last time.. I compiled it for you... want it? :)
[01:20] <Cntryboy> zzz
[01:20] <Hawkwind> z00m: Does 'mount' show it as mounted ?
[01:20] <Cntryboy> erov: lol I gotta learn this man
[01:21] <z00m> yes
[01:21] <Cntryboy> erov: pisses me off if I can't
[01:21] <Cntryboy> granted im new to linux but still
[01:21] <z00m> I did a z00m:z00m on the folder b4 will that make it not show the files
[01:21] <erov> i understand..
[01:21] <Hawkwind> z00m: Then it's mounted.  Gotta be something on the pen drive itself then.  Maybe the files aren't there or something
[01:21] <Cntryboy> erov: do you know the ./configure command to show me what all I need to compile this stupid file
[01:21] <Hawkwind> z00m: Could be a permissions problem
[01:22] <z00m> the permissions on the files are set to forbidden
[01:22] <z00m> for group
[01:22] <jakykong> Hawkind: thanks. I only repeated because i didn't know if anyone saw my question :-) sorry.
[01:22] <z00m> and others
[01:22] <gemidjy> who uses beagle?
[01:23] <Snake> #ubuntu?
[01:23] <Snake> :)
[01:23] <gemidjy> was that for me?
[01:23] <erov> hey Cntry hold up.. i think I mayhave what it can be
[01:23] <Snake> gemidjy: mmhmmm
[01:23] <Snake> :)
[01:23] <gemidjy> SeanTater: o.0 howcome?
[01:23] <gemidjy> Snake*
[01:23] <Snake> gemidjy: you asked who uses beagle, its a gnome app isnt it??
[01:23] <Snake> GTK... if you want to get specificl
[01:24] <ranunculoid> Thanks Hawkind, java is now installing. (Linux is so easy when you know how :-D)
[01:24] <gemidjy> Snake: u are in deep illusion, and even if it is, what is wrong in using it if u use KDE ?
[01:24] <teknoprep> WTF
[01:24] <teknoprep> lol
[01:24] <erov> Cntryboy: qt3-dev-tools package
[01:24] <gemidjy> Snake: http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2788/snapshot14aq.png
[01:24] <Snake> gemidjy: Nuthin, I just thought it was a GTK app, and usually you have better luck with finding people that run it in #ubuntu...since gnome is GTK happy
[01:24] <erov> its the one i left out.. sorry !!
[01:24] <erov> i believe that will do it for you
[01:24] <SpAwN> k i been playing with the alsa mixer....good news...i now have static coming out of my speakers....so it improved...but all it is is static
[01:25] <erov> it includes qmake which you are missing!
[01:25] <gemidjy> SpAwN: what card?
[01:25] <SpAwN> intel onboard
[01:25] <Snake> gemidjy: I will gladly sit down and stfu now :)
[01:25] <jimmy__> is gigabyte a real enexpencive board or am I just used to paying Asus prices?
[01:25] <SpAwN> its a hyuge pain in the arse
[01:25] <erov> Cntryboy: apt-get install qt3-dev-tools
[01:25] <SpAwN> intel ac'97
[01:25] <gemidjy> Snake: no, just read about it, it is damn useful for huge amount of data
[01:25] <jimmy__> I'm done with Asus
[01:26] <Snake> asus
[01:26] <Snake> eh
[01:26] <jimmy__> looking for a replacement
[01:26] <Snake> DFI <3
[01:26] <coachJ> I have a usb harddrive that says it is mounted but nothing i write to it stays after shutdown, why?
[01:26] <RawSewage> I wish Kerry did in-text searches
[01:26] <z00m> Hawkwind: how to i set permissions on the folder
[01:26] <jimmy__> never has DFI
[01:26] <jimmy__> had
[01:26] <RawSewage> to find text in logs and things
[01:26] <Snake> DFI is great, pick up one of their lanparty boards, I really like em
[01:27] <jimmy__> I'll look in to it
[01:27] <Hawkwind> z00m: chown -R user.user /path/to/files  Replacing user.user with your users name, or chmod 777 /path/to/files
[01:27] <Hawkwind> z00m: Both as sudo of course
[01:27] <Hawkwind> Dinner time here, back in a bit
[01:28] <RawSewage> How does Kerry work anyway?  does it crawl slowly? and will it eventually get to every file you have in the designated folders?
[01:28] <RawSewage> when does it do its crawling
[01:28] <SpAwN> omg i got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:28] <jimmy__> I bought two high end Asus boards, one DOA (PCI-E slot) and the other one just went out me
[01:28] <SpAwN> wow
[01:28] <SpAwN> omg what a pain
[01:30] <Ash-Fox> It's a bit of a annoyance that adept doesn't give you access to package changelogs for updates.
[01:31] <jimmy__> does linux actually use the full SLI benifits?
[01:32] <h3sp4wn> For 2 nvidia cards ?
[01:32] <coachJ> what does mean?
' does not seem to be a device and the option 'bind' has not been specified in the "Advanced" page?
[01:32] <coachJ> Should I add the 'loop' option?
[01:32] <Ash-Fox> jimmy__, linux is just a kernel, I believe xorg, x11 is what you want to know about.
[01:33] <jimmy__> I kinda ment that, 'through' linux
[01:33] <h3sp4wn> nvidia's drivers should
[01:33] <jimmy__> hope my terminology is right
[01:34] <z00m> h3sp4wn: do you know how to change file permissions on a folder on a usb pen drive
[01:34] <h3sp4wn> Yes
[01:34] <Ash-Fox> The kernel is fully capable of passing the task to something that can handle it.
[01:34] <z00m> they are set to group forbidden and other fordidden
[01:34] <RawSewage> is inotify in Kubuntu already?
[01:35] <z00m> all the files are showing up as 0kb in size :(
[01:35] <h3sp4wn> z00m: use chown -R username:groupname *
[01:35] <RawSewage> what does this mean:  inotify has been included in the upstream kernel tree as of 2.6.13, so if you are running it or newer, you don't need to do anything to get inotify support.
[01:35] <RawSewage> does that mean I have it?
[01:35] <jimmy__> how do yo9u change the clock from military to normal time
[01:35] <h3sp4wn> z00m: use chmod -R username:groupname 755
[01:36] <RawSewage> quid pro quo
[01:37] <z00m> h3sp4wn: chmod: invalid mode: `z00m:z00m'
[01:37] <chopin> sorry to be so lame but i'm still lost w/ getting ff onto kubuntu.  is it a gnome-only app?  i got gtk+2.10.0 but it can't find gcc ... :-/
[01:37] <z00m> sudo chmod -R z00m:z00m 755 /media/sdc1/z00ms-files/
[01:37] <RawSewage> Firefox is in the repos
[01:37] <RawSewage> very easy to add
[01:38] <RawSewage> use the Add/Remove Programs thing
[01:38] <OOD> chopin: just start up adept and look for firefox
[01:38] <chopin> i saw it but it was greyed out and unclickable
[01:39] <Cntryboy> erov: okay back im dling what u said, how do U know I need that file, see thats what I need to learn how and what to get when I need it
[01:39] <RawSewage> chopin, maybe enable universe
[01:39] <h3sp4wn> z00m: chmod -R 755 z00m:z00m: /media/sdc1/z00ms-files/
[01:40] <z00m> chmod: cannot access `z00m:z00m:': No such file or directory
[01:40] <chopin> RawSewage: i saw that before ... but how?
[01:40] <RawSewage> ok, close Add/Remove Programs
[01:41] <z00m> man im gutted here, i lost all my files i backed up before reinstalling
[01:41] <RawSewage> ok, alt+f2
[01:41] <RawSewage> adept
[01:41] <chopin> k
[01:41] <chopin> heheh
[01:41] <RawSewage> Adept at the top.  Manage Repos
[01:41] <z00m> h3sp4wn: would the files show there size if the permissions was set to forbidden
[01:41] <chopin> k
[01:42] <h3sp4wn> z00m: try running sudo -i
[01:42] <h3sp4wn> z00m: And investigating from ther
[01:42] <RawSewage> see the grayed out Universe lines
[01:42] <RawSewage> right-click them, and enable them
[01:42] <chopin> ooh ... uh,
[01:42] <RawSewage> then Fetch Updates
[01:43] <RawSewage> on the right side
[01:43] <RawSewage> see the universe ones
[01:43] <chopin> ah!
[01:43] <RawSewage> you might as well enable the multiverse too.  are you going to want to get mp3 support?
[01:43] <chopin> so all the entries that have "universe"
[01:43] <z00m> h3sp4wn: when doin the sudo -i then going to the /media/sdc1/z00ms-file/ dirs the files are still showing nothing in them
[01:43] <chopin> heh, probably
[01:43] <z00m> sorry i mean the files are there
[01:43] <RawSewage> enable all the ones that have columns on the right
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> what ?
[01:44] <RawSewage> universe, multiverse
[01:44] <z00m> but when i do nano info.txt there is nothing in the file
[01:44] <z00m> they are 0b in size
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> try unmounting it and doing
[01:44] <z00m> -rwx------ 1 z00m z00m     0 Jul 11 22:33 info.txt
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> fsck /dev/sdc1
[01:45] <chopin> k ... i don't see multiverse but i am downloading a ton of updates now
[01:45] <chopin> i saw "main" but .... no multiverse
[01:45] <chopin> anyway, looking better now
[01:47] <z00m> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[01:47] <z00m> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
[01:47] <z00m> filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
[01:47] <z00m> is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
[01:47] <RawSewage> ok, do this
[01:47] <z00m>     e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
[01:47] <erov> Cntryboy: sorry was playing Wolfenstein :p uhm.. well i knew qmake probably had something to do with qt which is what that makefile was looking for (qmake) which is with the qt3 packages.. so i looked up everything to do with qt3 and thats the only one i saw that i hadnt told you to get
[01:47] <z00m> the pen drive was fat32
[01:47] <RawSewage> double-click universe , and type after it   multiverse .   so it looks like:   universe multiverse
[01:47] <RawSewage> and then hit ENTER
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> z00m: Oh
[01:47] <chopin> ah HAH!
[01:48] <RawSewage> the changes wont happen unless you click ENTER
[01:48] <z00m> i think i have lost all the files why did that happed ?
[01:48] <RawSewage> then Fetch Updates again
[01:49] <RawSewage> chopin, Firefox should be ungrayed out
[01:49] <chopin> phew
[01:49] <Cntryboy> erov: well I type make in and got this error at the very bottom : http://pastebin.ca/86533
[01:49] <Cntryboy> can't believe so many bs errors
[01:49] <z00m> iz gutted! :(
[01:50] <chopin> RawSewage: it seems i've gotten a lot more firefox-oriented stuff, like dom inspector, but not the browser
[01:50] <erov> well you are trying to compile something that uses a lot of "nonstandard" libraries.. dont expect it to work just like that.. development is very tricky.. on any platform
[01:50] <RawSewage> ok
[01:50] <erov> wow zlib.h thats it.. hell thats easy.. hold on
[01:51] <RawSewage> chopin, to make it easier, just close adept
[01:51] <Hawkwind> z00m: You get it mounted ?
[01:51] <chopin> heheh, ok
[01:51] <RawSewage> and open the Add/Program thing for now
[01:51] <RawSewage> do it that way
[01:51] <chopin> thanks for holding my dang hand thru this
[01:51] <RawSewage> lol
[01:51] <h3sp4wn> !initng
[01:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about initng - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:51] <chopin> haven't been a noob for a while ... but kubuntu is new
[01:51] <h3sp4wn> !performance
[01:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about performance - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:51] <chopin> k, back to add/remove
[01:51] <erov> alright Cntryboy.. one more package i promise.. zlib1g-dev
[01:52] <h3sp4wn> !kernel
[01:52] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:52] <RawSewage> chopin, you follow instructions well , so it's easy to help you
[01:52] <chopin> RawSewage: i think the problem is that i don't have Gnome loaded ... ?
[01:52] <Cntryboy> lol
[01:52] <RawSewage> you dont need Gnome
[01:52] <chopin> haha, i hoped not
[01:52] <Cntryboy> erov: you need to tell me how I can search for files I need
[01:52] <erov> the -dev is for development (or compiling) you need those packages to compile things that refer to them in the programmers code if you are going to COMPILE it
[01:52] <RawSewage> is it still grayed out
[01:52] <Cntryboy> erov: does it have anything to do with ./configure to tell u?
[01:53] <chopin> in add/remove, when i choose "Any Suite" it  comes up but it's grayed out still
[01:53] <chopin> under "internet"
[01:53] <RawSewage> what if you click on the right
[01:53] <RawSewage> those 2 checkboxes
[01:54] <h3sp4wn> erov: What are you trying to compile ?
[01:54] <RawSewage> unsupported and propietary
[01:54] <chopin> that doesn't enable anything new ... and right-clicking doesn't bring anything up
[01:54] <RawSewage> chopin, I dont know then.  Firefox shouldnt be grayed out
[01:54] <chopin> heheh
[01:55] <erov> Cntryboy: ok well i use adept.. and i saw in your error paste.. that zlib h was missing so i searched for zlib then i saw the zlib-dev package.. so i assumed that is it.. and you dont have the zlib development files
[01:55] <RawSewage> did you click Fetch updates after making the repo changes?
[01:55] <SpAwN> i have a partion called /music and i would like to be able to read/write to it with normal user....how cani set this up...i was think of using "chown user:user /music"
[01:55] <chopin> yeah
[01:55] <chopin> i think the repo may be hosed
[01:55] <Cntryboy> erov: kk thx, yah I didn't have it, its dling now
[01:55] <chopin> somehow. ...
[01:55] <erov> configure has nothing to do with it thought configure would HELP greatly in this case the programmer did NOT include configure scripts with this source
[01:55] <chopin> perhaps i should reinstall adept?  ;-)
[01:55] <Cntryboy> done now
[01:55] <Cntryboy> here goes
[01:55] <RawSewage> no
[01:55] <chopin> haha
[01:55] <RawSewage> chopin, paste it
[01:56] <RawSewage> !paste
[01:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:56] <erov> so youre own your own.. not our fault.. its the developers.. not all source code is like this
[01:56] <chopin> !paste?
[01:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about paste? - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:56] <chopin> i c
[01:56] <chopin> one sec
[01:56] <RawSewage> !repos
[01:56] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:56] <h3sp4wn> !automatix
[01:56] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[01:56] <Cntryboy> erov: good lord Im sick of errors for one day
[01:56] <z00m> Hawkwind: yes its mounted but the files are still 0bytes in size even when looking at them with sudo -i
[01:57] <erov> i understand.. its like that when you dont know wtf is going on.. trust me it was like that for me at one point.. now i just breeze through cause I already have an idea.. and if i dont I know how to figure it out
[01:58] <erov> err that didnt come out right .. anyhow.. it takes time.. you cant really expect to be up and compiling complex source code on your first days of linux unless it's simpler and uses less development libraries.. you have to remember ubuntu out of the box doesnt have anything for compiling
[01:58] <erov> bbl
[01:58] <chopin> RawSewage: is there a config file i can pull the repos out of?
[01:58] <teknoprep> YO
[01:58] <teknoprep> why can't i download
[01:59] <Cntryboy> kk
[01:59] <Cntryboy> cya
[01:59] <teknoprep> aim_1.5.286-2_i386.deb
[01:59] <teknoprep> http://ftp.newaol.com/aimgen/380469/aim_1.5.286-2_i386.deb
[01:59] <Cntryboy> can anyone make head or tails out of this error:  http://pastebin.ca/86539
[01:59] <teknoprep> its just showing up as ascii
[02:00] <teknoprep> ?
[02:00] <RawSewage> chopin,  /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:00] <chopin> heh thx
[02:00] <Raven301> !koffice
[02:00] <ubotu> Integrated office suite for KDE, including word processing, spreadsheet, flow charting, image manipulation. For more info see: http://koffice.kde.org. Upgraded Kubu packs at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-151.php
[02:02] <jimmy__> anybody familiar with DFI?
[02:03] <chopin> RawSewage: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17872
[02:03] <RawSewage> chopin, theyre not all enabled
[02:04] <RawSewage> see the multiverse with # in front
[02:04] <RawSewage> that means its not enabled
[02:04] <chopin> for backports?
[02:04] <RawSewage> what
[02:04] <RawSewage> close Add/Remove
[02:04] <RawSewage> open Adept
[02:04] <RawSewage> go to Manage Repos again
[02:05] <chopin> k
[02:06] <RawSewage> ungray out the other universe ones
[02:06] <RawSewage> and multiverse ones
[02:06] <chopin> ok
[02:06] <chopin> oooooh!
[02:06] <chopin> FINALLY
[02:06] <chopin> found it
[02:06] <RawSewage> ok cool
[02:06] <chopin> i did that and fetched.  there it stinking is.
[02:06] <Hawkwind> chopin: Also, read this post on my forum:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0
[02:07] <chopin> thx folks
[02:07] <Hawkwind> chopin: That will get you a ton of repos to use for all sorts of good software
[02:07] <RawSewage> ok
[02:07] <chopin> and Hawkwind: i totally will
[02:07] <chopin> thx!  phew ... i'm gladd y'all atre on freeenode
[02:08] <RawSewage> did I already give you my PayPal address
[02:08] <RawSewage> I forgot
[02:08] <chopin> not yet ... :-)
[02:08] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: Are you recommending unofficial repos ? which ones anything good ?
[02:09] <talljon84> Alright, I need some help. ./configure is saying that I can't compile simple C++ programs; however, I do have libstdc++-dev installed. What else do I need?
[02:09] <RawSewage> that repos is too f#$ing bug
[02:09] <RawSewage> big
[02:10] <h3sp4wn> talljon84: have build essential ?
[02:11] <HolyBastard> Hey, I've downloaded the DVD and I don't quite get what it has more then the cd version for the extrat 3GB... I thought there was more application included but there isn't anything different I could notice.
[02:11] <h3sp4wn> HolyBastard: I has the whole of main on cd
[02:12] <RawSewage> HolyBastard, DVD is for people with bad internet connections, I guess
[02:12] <talljon84> h2sp4wn: no but since I do now, it magicaly works. yay! haha
[02:12] <RawSewage> You dont need the DVD anymore
[02:12] <RawSewage> just the CD
[02:12] <chopin> ahhhhhhhhhh ... firefox .... :-D
[02:13] <h3sp4wn> Why do you need firefox :D
[02:13] <HolyBastard> RawSewage (like me?) :P
[02:13] <HolyBastard> thats what I thought at first...I though you had more stuff on the dvd so less download
[02:13] <RawSewage> I dont know how the DVD works
[02:13] <h3sp4wn> You have the whole of main (with the old installer) and then livecd
[02:14] <RawSewage> I use Konqueror to browse the web now
[02:14] <RawSewage> I used to use Firefox
[02:14] <chopin> i'm a Plone developer
[02:14] <HolyBastard> h3sp4wn ok so if I want to install everything (like a developer install) I need to use the old installer?
[02:14] <jimmy__> Konqueror seems to work a little faster in KDE
[02:15] <RawSewage> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plone_(content_management_system)
[02:15] <jimmy__> but  I like Firefox better
[02:15] <h3sp4wn> HolyBastard: You won't need all the dev stuff or do you ?>
[02:16] <HolyBastard> h3sp4wn well I would need make, gcc, kernel header and so on. I would also like to have kdevelop installed by default but I don't know if it is inside the dvd.
[02:17] <h3sp4wn> HolyBastard: If you just go into the packages directory on the dvd you can do sudo dpkg -i *.deb (and you get everything) maybe have to do it twice (Is that what you need the whole of main)
[02:17] <h3sp4wn> info kdevelop
[02:17] <h3sp4wn> "info kdevelop
[02:17] <h3sp4wn> !info kdevelop
[02:17] <ubotu> Package kdevelop does not exist in dapper
[02:18] <h3sp4wn> !info  kdevelop
[02:18] <ubotu> Package kdevelop does not exist in dapper
[02:18] <HolyBastard> oh ok I didn't know I could look directly in the dvd
[02:18] <RawSewage> !kdevelop
[02:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about kdevelop - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:18] <crimsun> kdevelop3
[02:18] <h3sp4wn> !info kdevelop3
[02:18] <ubotu> kdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB
[02:18] <h3sp4wn> It is in universe so it won't be on the dvd I don't think
[02:19] <HolyBastard> haa well thats not a problem
[02:20] <h3sp4wn> Well at least it is there
[02:35] <Zoolie> hello
[02:36] <Zoolie> uniq, i found a command to select boot splash screen,include the default ubuntu version : "update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so" it makes difference only in root terminal,sudo gets error message.
[02:47] <D4m4ge> bye all
[02:53] <talljon84> Evening all- So what is the necessary .deb file that contains KDE headers? The most obvious choices from Adept give a break warning when I select them.
[02:53] <coma> !fat bottomed girls
[02:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about fat bottomed girls - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:54] <doppelganger> what do you call the taskbar in KDE? i really want to change the skin or appearance of it
[02:54] <h3sp4wn> !burning
[02:54] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[02:54] <doppelganger> probably the stupidest question ever, just needed to google for themes for it
[02:55] <coma> !panel
[02:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about panel - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:55] <coma> !kpanel
[02:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about kpanel - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:55] <eXCeSS> kde kicker
[02:55] <eXCeSS> i win
[02:55] <coma> !taskbar
[02:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about taskbar - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:55] <coma> !kde kicker
[02:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about kde kicker - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:55] <coma> man ubotu is past his prime
[02:56] <eXCeSS> doppelganger: http://kde-look.org
[02:56] <coma> !ubotu
[02:56] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:56] <doppelganger> i just got XGL working fine, now i need a good taskbar so my shit isn't so ugly
[02:57] <coma> !love
[02:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about love - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:57] <doppelganger> (not that its worse than windows, granted, but i want some taskbar goodness)
[02:57] <Hawkwind> Let's stop playing with the bot
[02:57] <coma> :(
[02:57] <coma> but ubotu is fun
[02:57] <coma> he needs to learn to love....
[02:58] <eXCeSS> !xgl
[02:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:58] <coma> !ubotu learn
[02:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about learn - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:00] <Hawkwind> coma: Please stop, seriously
[03:00] <coma> you guys are no !fun
[03:01] <doppelganger> who was it that mentioned kde-look.org?
[03:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> coma: You can play with the bots in #debian-bots
[03:01] <Hawkwind> coma: The bot is NOT a toy.  Play with it in #Debian-Bots
[03:02] <h3sp4wn> coma: Try playing with dpkg in #debian-bots (much more fun)
[03:02] <coma> i am...but its not the same...those bots are passed their prime:(
[03:02] <h3sp4wn> dpkg actually knows stuff unlike ubotu
[03:03] <bimberi> btw, ubotu isn't in #debian-bots - #ubuntu-bots is the place
[03:04] <doppelganger> hey guys, what am i looking for on kde-look.org on the menu to skin out just my taskbar?
[03:04] <doppelganger> i don't want to change anything else but that
[03:04] <Eeyore> i mounted windows xp as "mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/vfat"
[03:04] <doppelganger> i see themes, decorations, etc
[03:04] <doppelganger> i just want my taskbar redone
[03:05] <Eeyore> however i cannot access it
[03:05] <doppelganger> or whatever you call it
[03:05] <abattoir> doppelganger: rt. click on the 'taskbar'->Configure panels->appearance
[03:05] <abattoir> doppelganger: Panel background...
[03:06] <doppelganger> well, i guess "skin" is a poor choice of word
[03:06] <doppelganger> more like, wanna change the kde "start" button, and everything
[03:06] <doppelganger> to something cooler looking
[03:06] <analogkid> Anyone know how to change the font size on the desktop? (icon titles)
[03:07] <abattoir> doppelganger: then kbfx is what you are looking for
[03:07] <doppelganger> i guess i just don't know how far these "themes" go...  i don't want to change anything as far as menu layouts
[03:07] <abattoir> !info kbfx
[03:07] <ubotu> kbfx: a new K-Menu for KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.4.8+cvs20060413-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 193 kB, installed size 804 kB
[03:08] <doppelganger> cool, let me check that out
[03:08] <abattoir> doppelganger: if you have universe installed, get it through adept or apt-get
[03:08] <doppelganger> thanks guys
[03:08] <talljon84> I'm working on compiling Kopete 0.12 (since the unoffical package doesn't work in my case). I need to use the KDE headers (./configure is complaining) but all the kde-dev related packages give me a warning that it will break something. Which package should I really be using?
[03:08] <abattoir> doppelganger: you should get themes for those on kde-look
[03:09] <doppelganger> i'm just being careful not to change the way the menus work, especially system settings, it's laid out nicely
[03:09] <doppelganger> just not sure if themes change that whole thing or not too
[03:10] <doppelganger> i dunno, i'll just check out what you guys mentioned and stfu for a sec  ;)
[03:10] <Eeyore> i need to change the default boot os
[03:10] <Eeyore> how ?
[03:10] <abattoir> doppelganger: only the 'buttons' change afaik...
[03:11] <doppelganger> ok, just wasn't sure how much it would change kde
[03:11] <doppelganger> i like it's simplicity
[03:11] <doppelganger> thanks aba
[03:12] <doppelganger> (plus i don't wanna screw up xgl) 8)
[03:12] <fernandogarib_> my ferst name is fernando and secon name is Garib, i m  chilian
[03:12] <doppelganger> i'm 2 days into linux... heh.  Anyways, i'm off
[03:13] <fernandogarib_> whe are you from?
[03:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> Eeyore: The only way I know is to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:13] <Hexidigital> i use KDE and Gnome, but i want to boot into terminal... can someone help me? (i already edited the /etc/inittab file, but KDE still comes up at boot
[03:14] <abattoir> Hexidigital: try appending 'single' to your kernel boot paramenters
[03:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> Eeyore: run 'kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[03:14] <h3sp4wn> doppelganger: If you want symplicity try fluxbox
[03:14] <Hexidigital> abattoir:: i'm not sure how to do that... isn't there a rc.conf file i need to edit? (i have done this before, but dont remember how)
[03:15] <abattoir> Hexidigital: open up /boot/grub/meu.lst, if you are using grub
[03:17] <abattoir> Hexidigital: done?
[03:17] <Hexidigital> yeah... i saw it under recovery mode...
[03:18] <Hexidigital> thx abattoir
[03:18] <Hexidigital> brb... need to test
[03:18] <abattoir> Hexidigital: in the entry for the kernel which you use... append single to the end of the kernel entry line
[03:18] <abattoir> a bit, confusing :P
[03:19] <Hexidigital> does it matter if it's after "splash" or not, abattoir ?
[03:19] <Eeyore> CheeseBurgerMan: i did that once and became unbootable
[03:19] <Hexidigital> or before?
[03:19] <Eeyore> all i did was move things around
[03:19] <abattoir> shouldnt matter as long as it is in the same line...
[03:19] <Hexidigital> ok
[03:19] <Hexidigital> thx
[03:19] <Hexidigital> be right back..
[03:19] <abattoir> Hexidigital: be careful, if it gives problems...
[03:19] <abattoir> Hexidigital: use 'e' in grub menu.. omg he left :(
[03:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> Eeyore: Don't move things around. You change a number around line 14 to change the default entry.
[03:23] <Hexidigital> erm.. didn't work...
[03:23] <Hexidigital> kicked me into root login halfway into booting....
[03:24] <Eeyore> what i was hoping to do is move windows to the top of the list as default and hide the menu.  when i moved windows up, i got unbootable pc
[03:25] <aegeanlinux>  Does anyone know of a browser for KDE that uses Gecko (Mozilla's Rendering Engine)?
[03:25] <abattoir> Hexidigital: i thought that's what you wanted..?
[03:26] <tailsfan> Is theer a site or page for where I can see what Kubuntu contains, I ordered some CDs from Shipit and wanted to know what Kubuntu contained
[03:26] <Hexidigital> yeah... but i want my system to start up completely, also...
[03:26] <Hexidigital> i logged out of root, and it continued booting
[03:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> aegeanlinux: I assume that you mean a QT based browser that uses Gecko?
[03:27] <eXCeSS> tailsfan: same as ubuntu with a different desktop environment is what im lead to beleive you can amke ubuntu linux with 3 packages
[03:27] <jk-> anyone using amarok 1.4.1 ?
[03:27] <aegeanlinux> Yes I do
[03:27] <aegeanlinux> It's heaps good
[03:28] <tailsfan> so the games and other apps are the same
[03:28] <jk-> aegeanlinux: no problems playing flacs
[03:28] <jk-> actually, i should check other formats...
[03:29] <aegeanlinux> jk- I don't have any flacs, but if Xine can play it.... can't see why not
[03:29] <h3sp4wn> aegeanlinux: Which browser are you using that does that ?
[03:30] <jk-> aegeanlinux: yeah, just upgraded from 1.4.0 to 1.4.1, and xine is spitting chips at me
[03:30] <jk-> s/xine/the xine engine/
[03:30] <aegeanlinux> jk- yes
[03:30] <aegeanlinux> I had that to, just get the latest xine, 1.1.2 i think
[03:32] <dydimustk> I'm sure I'm evil if I don't want to use konqueror... but how can i make katapult open firefox when typing firefox?
[03:32] <doppelganger> anyone here have that kbfx?
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> dydimustk: Put Firefox in the K Menu.
[03:33] <aegeanlinux> yes, I do
[03:33] <doppelganger> how the world do i open it?
[03:33] <aegeanlinux> right click on the kicker
[03:33] <doppelganger> its not in the menu, typing that doesn't open it
[03:33] <aegeanlinux> click add applet
[03:33] <dydimustk> CheeseBurgerMan: even if it's already listed under internet
[03:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> dydimustk: Oh, no.
[03:33] <aegeanlinux> and search for kbfx
[03:34] <aegeanlinux> is it not in the "Add Applet" dialog?
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> dydimustk: restart katapult, that'll make it rebuild it's index.
[03:34] <dydimustk> ok thanks CheeseBurgerMan
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> dydimustk: There must be an easier way to make it do that, but I don't know it. :)
[03:34] <dydimustk> CheeseBurgerMan: its been restartedd  several times, but I can't get beyond "firefox central - open bookmark"
[03:35] <doppelganger> hmm
[03:35] <doppelganger> i was thinking this was a whole change of the taskbar
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> dydimustk: you could always delete the bookmark if you don't want it, or you can set it to not index your bookmarks.
[03:36] <dydimustk> CheeseBurgerMan: yeah, it's that 'set it' part that I can't find
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> dydimustk: Mine goes to Firefox, and then Firefox Central, not sure why yours is different.
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> dydimustk: open Katapult and press Ctrl+C
[03:36] <dydimustk> CheeseBurgerMan: are there supposed to be preferences somewhere
[03:36] <dydimustk> AHHHH
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> dydimustk: yes! :D
[03:36] <dydimustk> that's what I was looking for!
[03:36] <dydimustk> thanks!
[03:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> You're welcome. :)
[03:37] <doppelganger> man, i have no clue what i'm doin
[03:37] <dydimustk> glorious!
[03:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> doppelganger: Half the fun is figuring out what you're doing. :)
[03:38] <doppelganger> agean- whats the easiest way to change the whole look of my taskbar?
[03:38] <doppelganger> thats all in kubuntu that i really want to change
[03:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> What is the 'whole look'?
[03:38] <doppelganger> but i want button and all to change...  preferably of someone else's making
[03:39] <doppelganger> i want a new Kde start button, and just a classier feel to it
[03:39] <aegeanlinux> kbfx is good
[03:39] <lucas> i have an 1 GB .tar.gz file, which I can't extract with Ark coz it crashes. Is there a way to extract this file using the console?
[03:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> For the button, you can either change /usr/share/icons/<iconset>/<size>/kmenu.png, or you can use KBFX. For the background, you can find many at http://kde-look.org
[03:40] <doppelganger> when i do that search like you said, it just comes up with kbfxvista
[03:40] <unix_infidel> !tar
[03:40] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)
[03:40] <aegeanlinux> yes tar -xvf {{FILE}}
[03:40] <unix_infidel> !gzip
[03:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about gzip - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:40] <unix_infidel> lol.
[03:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> doppelganger: kbfxvista is the right applet
[03:40] <doppelganger> and it puts it down at the bottom, and its all squished up and ugly lookin
[03:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> doppelganger: OK then, change the kmenu.png
[03:41] <lucas> which are the commands to extract a tar.gz file?
[03:41] <aegeanlinux> tar -xvf {file}
[03:41] <SpAwN> well ktorrent is kinda not working good...no matter what ports im using its slow as hell......so i installed sun-javafrom the repos and azureus ......but azureus doesnt work right...it just loads...but no user interface comes up...how can i fix this
[03:41] <lucas> (it's a big one-- dunno if that makes a difference)
[03:41] <aegeanlinux> replace {file} with the file name
[03:41] <doppelganger> i was under the impression that it was just going to change the whole thing
[03:41] <doppelganger> i dunno...  i dunno what i'm sayin
[03:42] <lucas> aegeanlinux: its not .tar, its tar.gz
[03:42] <doppelganger> i see screenies of people's desktops with these sweet taskbars and stuff
[03:42] <doppelganger> i just want some taskbar lovin
[03:42] <lucas> aegeanlinux: shall i first convert tar.gz into tar?
[03:42] <aegeanlinux> tar can do .tar.gz and .tar.bz2
[03:43] <aegeanlinux> don't need too
[03:43] <chopin> !multiverse
[03:43] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:43] <lucas> aegeanlinux k th
[03:43] <lucas> x
[03:43] <aegeanlinux> lucas, is it working?
[03:44] <lucas> aegeanlinux: yeah :)
[03:45] <lucas> aegeanlinux: slowly, but working
[03:45] <scythe> any body have kubuntu or ubuntu installed on a laptop here ?
[03:45] <aegeanlinux> lucas: Just a handy hint for next time ;) tar can do .tar.bz .tar.bz2 and .tar.gz too
[03:45] <lucas> aegeanlinux: kewl
[03:45] <scythe> I am having problems with speedstep that has me completely flummoxed
[03:46] <doppelganger> is "kicker" what you guys call the taskbar in kubuntu?
[03:46] <aegeanlinux> yes
[03:46] <doppelganger> weird name.. lol
[03:46] <doppelganger> but..  hmm
[03:46] <aegeanlinux> You get used to it after a while ;)
[03:47] <doppelganger> so...  i guess i just want a cool kicker
[03:47] <aegeanlinux> :D yes
[03:47] <doppelganger> i don't want a whole dang theme, just a cool kicker
[03:47] <lucas> doppelganger: try enabling transparency ;)
[03:47] <aegeanlinux> yes, that is correct
[03:47] <scythe> is there a way to add icon zooming like on a mac?
[03:47] <doppelganger> i want...  sorta like a Vista-esque kicker, with a sweet start button
[03:48] <doppelganger> hehe
[03:48] <aegeanlinux> kde-look.org
[03:48] <aegeanlinux> done
[03:48] <lucas> doppelganger: kbfx
[03:48] <doppelganger> god i feel like an idiot
[03:48] <aegeanlinux> so your not the only one ;)
[03:48] <aegeanlinux> why?
[03:48] <doppelganger> i don't understand kbfx though....
[03:48] <aegeanlinux> is it on your kicker yet?
[03:48] <doppelganger> when i put that thing down on the kicker or whatever...   its...  just like a little button
[03:48] <doppelganger> that does nothing
[03:49] <aegeanlinux> You need to do the setting in kcontrol
[03:49] <aegeanlinux> *settings
[03:49] <lucas> doppelganger: it should open the kmenu...
[03:49] <doppelganger> it does jack, lol
[03:49] <aegeanlinux> and then remove and add the kbfx applet
[03:49] <aegeanlinux> or restart KDE
[03:49] <doppelganger> i haven't restarted KDE since i installed kbfx... maybe thats it
[03:49] <aegeanlinux> __could__ be
[03:49] <doppelganger> (?)
[03:50] <pestilence> i'm using klibido with newshosting.  everytime i update a group it expires all the messages and comes up empty.  anybody know what the deal is?
[03:50] <lucas> doppelganger: just kill kicker
[03:50] <lucas> aegeanlinux: right?
[03:50] <doppelganger> just wondering how i will get it back if i do
[03:50] <lucas> no need to restart
[03:50] <aegeanlinux> lucas : yes, just go into konsole
[03:50] <doppelganger> ok
[03:50] <aegeanlinux> lucas: This is linux
[03:51] <lucas> :-)
[03:51] <scythe> anyone in here have breezy installed on a laptop, I could use some help with controlling speedstep
[03:51] <pestilence> i have breezy on this laptop, but haven't bothered with speedstep
[03:52] <scythe> dang
[03:52] <pestilence> i mean, whatever is installed by default, that's what i have.
[03:52] <doppelganger> brb ;p
[03:52] <scythe> it wont run at full speed without acpid running, but it steps way down when I close the screen and use an external moniter
[03:53] <pestilence> hmm
[03:53] <scythe> I just want to know how I disable that sensor (gotta do it in software, I am not breaking a HW sensor to just get it working right)
[03:53] <pestilence> i don't understand why it won't run at full speed without acpid
[03:54] <scythe> its a sony and without acpid starting (took it out of /etc/rc2.d) I could only run at 600 mhz, not 1.2ghz
[03:55] <scythe> after I started it manually, it bumped up to 1.2ghz immediately
[03:56] <pestilence> so, if you look in /etc/acpi/
[03:56] <doppelganger> ok kicker, lets do this
[03:56] <pestilence> there are the scripts which control the actions taken
[03:56] <scythe> right, brb, gotta go get the laptop, im on the mac right now
[03:56] <doppelganger> ugh. bah
[03:57] <scythe> back
[03:57] <pestilence> so of particular interest might be /etc/acpi/lid.sh
[03:58] <pestilence> it forces dpms on, dunno if that coincides with the throttling
[03:59] <scythe> wow, just cat'd lid.sh, no clue what it actually says
[03:59] <pestilence> after you close the lid, try running "xset dpms force off"
[03:59] <scythe> wish i spoke better scripting:)
[03:59] <pestilence> see if that unthrottles the cpu
[03:59] <pestilence> i don't think it should, though.  i thought dpms was strictly a monitor thing.
[04:00] <aegeanlinux> whats bad?
[04:00] <scythe> thanks
[04:00] <Hawkwind> Anyone know if there are xen kernels in Kubuntu and if so, what file name they use ?
[04:00] <aegeanlinux> doppelganger:  whats bad?
[04:00] <aegeanlinux> Hawkwind: Xen kernel???
[04:01] <scythe> the wife is looking at it now.  I dont have the external stuff near, so I will have to test later.
[04:01] <doppelganger> well...  i dunno
[04:01] <Hawkwind> aegeanlinux: Yes, xen, for running virtual machines
[04:01] <Whil> xen?
[04:01] <Whil> Hawkwind: why not use wmware?
[04:01] <doppelganger> i understand from what you said that i can configure that button
[04:01] <Hawkwind> Because xen is many times faster
[04:01] <doppelganger> but that button is ugly as all sin
[04:01] <Whil> Hawkwind: or qemu
[04:01] <Hawkwind> vmware and qemu are super slow compared to xen
[04:02] <aegeanlinux> What do you mean by ugly?
[04:02] <doppelganger> says like "gnu linux" or something on it, and it's all squinched up
[04:02] <Whil> Hawkwind: okay i have never heard of xen for any ubuntu
[04:02] <doppelganger> barely even readable
[04:02] <Hawkwind> Whil: Xen is huge in Debian.  It's widely used
[04:02] <aegeanlinux> doppelganger: Why not change it?
[04:02] <Whil> Hawkwind: hmmmmm i dunno
[04:02] <doppelganger> i want more than a button i guess
[04:02] <aegeanlinux> Hawkwind: why not compile your own?
[04:03] <Hawkwind> aegeanlinux: If I have to I will, but I'd rather use prebuilt deb packages
[04:03] <doppelganger> i'd like the whole "kicker" redone
[04:03] <aegeanlinux> There are sets that come with kicker backgrounds and everything
[04:03] <scythe> actually, there is some -unthrottle stuff in the script (lid.sh)
[04:04] <doppelganger> where are such things
[04:04] <doppelganger> hehe
[04:04] <doppelganger> and are they easy to install
[04:04] <aegeanlinux> www.kde-look.org
[04:04] <aegeanlinux> simple
[04:04] <doppelganger> oh, well, i've found them there
[04:04] <aegeanlinux> just changing kicker settings and kbfx settings
[04:04] <doppelganger> but....   i havent' seen any instructions on how to install one on kdfx.org
[04:04] <aegeanlinux> the kbfx site has some to
[04:05] <aegeanlinux> You just tar -xvf the file you download
[04:05] <aegeanlinux> and set kbfx to that pathc
[04:05] <aegeanlinux> *path
[04:05] <doppelganger> where do i configure kbfx?
[04:05] <doppelganger> or "set to that path"
[04:05] <doppelganger> i guess
[04:06] <doppelganger> thats what confused me at first...  i couldn't find what i thought was going to be a program anywhere in my menus
[04:06] <aegeanlinux> kcontrol is your friend
[04:06] <doppelganger> lemme type that and see what it even is  ;P
[04:09] <doppelganger> crap, sorry agaen
[04:09] <doppelganger> says i'mm unregistered and can't chat
[04:11] <h3sp4wn> apt-get moo
[04:11] <aegeanlinux> s'all good
[04:11] <jfields> i hate to ask this question in here... but i have a client that uses dialup .. and only uses it like once a month.... is there any provider that doesnt require a damn credit card and offers a limited totally free service
[04:12] <h3sp4wn> jfields: Does he live close to you ?
[04:12] <jfields> yes... lol
[04:12] <jfields> but that will not work.. haha
[04:12] <doppelganger> how do i register my nick
[04:14] <Hobbsee> !register > doppelganger
[04:14] <h3sp4wn> jfields: Connect the two places with wifi
[04:15] <h3sp4wn> jfields: 2 good antenna's and routers
[04:16] <h3sp4wn> jfields: Maybe ask somewhere else thats what I would do
[04:16] <doppelganger_> woot, ok
[04:16] <aegeanlinux> got it?
[04:16] <h3sp4wn> !moo
[04:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about moo - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:16] <doppelganger_> yassah
[04:16] <doppelganger_> =)
[04:16] <aegeanlinux> you like?
[04:16] <SpAwN> should i manualy install java to get azureus to work??
[04:17] <doppelganger_> check pm aegean
[04:17] <aegeanlinux> gotcha
[04:17] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: sudo aptitude install sun-java5-bin (with aptitude)
[04:18] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:18] <SpAwN> i installed it b4 with adept
[04:18] <SpAwN> should i uninstall with that 1st?
[04:18] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Toss the GUI's man :P
[04:18] <scythe> how do i restart x server?
[04:18] <Hawkwind> scythe: ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:18] <aegeanlinux> ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:19] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Use CLI to install things :P
[04:19] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, hehe
[04:19] <scythe> hmm... i tried that
[04:19] <scythe> brb, gotta reboot
[04:19] <Hawkwind> Reboot ?
[04:19] <Hawkwind> You're using Windows ?
[04:20] <DarkAudit> oh the pain :)
[04:20] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I'm trying to use an xscreensaver for kscreensaver.  For example, I'd like to use the pacman screensaver.  How would one go about doing this?
[04:21] <Hobbsee> Ertain: install xscreensaver kscreensaver-xsavers
[04:21] <Ertain> Right-o then.
[04:21] <Ertain> Already installed.
[04:22] <ubuntu> ;] 
[04:23] <scythe> nope, the ctrl-alt-backspace wasn't working to reboot x
[04:23] <Ertain> Is it as easy as copying/linking certain *.desktop files?
[04:23] <scythe> and i could have killed it, but it didn't occure to me
[04:24] <digitalslacker> could somebody tell me how to turn off power saving in Dapper? I don't want my monitor falling asleep on me
[04:24] <Hawkwind> digitalslacker: Look in kcontrol or in systemsettings
[04:24] <Hawkwind> digitalslacker: Probably something there for sure in one of those two
[04:25] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, sudo update-alternatives --config java fixed the problem thanks
[04:25] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: No problems
[04:26] <digitalslacker> Hawkwind: tried that. It works, but it keeps destroying my resolution in xorg.conf, so is there something in a config file somewhere that I can change?
[04:27] <Hawkwind> digitalslacker: Not sure.  I set mine in xscreensaver and it doesn't go to sleep on me
[04:27] <digitalslacker> Hawkwind: yeah, that could be a problem since I don't use screensavers. I need the desktops to be visible to customers at all times
[04:29] <actinic> lets see some of your desktop screenies
[04:29] <actinic> mine with working lm-sensors & gkrellm: ftp://oberon.gotdns.com/mist2.jpg
[04:30] <abattoir> digitalslacker: the resolution is changed even if the 'Size, Orientation...' tab, in the Display section has the resolution you want?
[04:31] <digitalslacker> abattoir: yes, it takes down the entire xorg.conf and replaces it with one that's so stripped down I wouldn't know where to begin to fill in all the blanks
[04:32] <scythe> no go on lid.sh edits that comment out dpms
[04:32] <scythe> grr, back to the building block
[04:34] <digitalslacker> any other ideas on turning off the power saving?
[04:35] <abattoir> digitalslacker: i guess, you have also tried turning it off, allow it to change your xorg.conf, and then replace it w/ the old xorg.conf...?
[04:35] <abattoir> because, i cant seem to find a section for 'power' in xorg.conf
[04:36] <digitalslacker> abattoir: yeah, I tried replacing it, but it the power saving comes right back. I didn't see anything for power in xorg.conf either
[04:37] <digitalslacker> it doesn't make any sense really
[04:38] <abattoir> digitalslacker: btw, i dont see why you'd need admin priviledges... really
[04:38] <abattoir> hence xorg.conf shouldnt be touched
[04:39] <abattoir> digitalslacker: Kcontrol->Peripherals->Display right?
[04:39] <digitalslacker> 2 of the 3 systems I use myself on a regular basis are running Dapper. One was a straight dapper install and the other was upgraded. The upgraded one works fine, but I adjusted that in Breezy and the setting carried over
[04:39] <interfear> can someone tell me how to install a pcf font so bitchx looks right in gnome terminal
[04:39] <interfear> when i install nexus font in universe it doesnt work
[04:40] <digitalslacker> abattoir: yes, that's one of the ways I tried changing it
[04:40] <interfear> or synpatic rather
[04:40] <abattoir> digitalslacker: well, if you dont touch, the Administrator mode button, xorg.conf shouldnt be touched
[04:40] <ken> does anyone know how i can control my client desktop on a samba network?
[04:41] <abattoir> digitalslacker: for me, power mgmt. works w/o having to get into Administrator mode
[04:41] <digitalslacker> I'm fairly certain I tried that, but I'll try again, make sure I didn't just screw with something else before and not remember
[04:42] <scythe> got it working, thanx
[04:42] <abattoir> digitalslacker: as far as i can see, only the h/w tab there requires admin. priv., quite rightly
[04:42] <scythe> I made a backup of the script, then when I restored it, i forgot to comment out the dpms line
[04:44] <ken> i was wondering if someone could give me a hand on working with a samba network
[04:45] <scythe> that wasnt the fix though, I copied the dpms and the unthrottle lines into the first if statement just before the done
[04:45] <scythe> that worked
[04:46] <digitalslacker> abattoir: trying it again, so I need to leave it idle for a little while. The resolutions don't seem to have been changed anywhere, so I'll have to see
[04:46] <abattoir> digitalslacker: first enable it, chg. to 1 min., see if it works, then disable it...
[04:47] <abattoir> you'll know quicker :P
[04:47] <frode_> Hi all
[04:47] <aegeanlinux> Hey frode_
[04:49] <digitalslacker> oops, closed the wrong window
[04:50] <actinic> ken, samba link:  http://www.qnd-guides.net/qnd-samba.html
[04:50] <actinic> don't know much about it
[04:52] <abattoir> digitalslacker: tried the 1 min. thing?
[04:53] <actinic> here's another: http://samba.netfirms.com/sambconf.htm
[04:53] <scythe> anyone here have a sony laptop with a ms reader?  Have you gotten it to work under dapper, breezy?
[04:53] <abattoir> scythe: ms reader ?
[04:53] <abattoir> oh ok sorry
[04:53] <scythe> built in memorystick (that evil encrypted pos that they developed)
[04:53] <Ertain> Hello once again, everyone.  I'm still tryingt to figure out how to use the pacman screensaver with kscreensaver.  I have written a *.desktop file and put it in the /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers directory, but it still won't pick it up as a screensaver.
[04:55] <abattoir> scythe: vaio model?
[04:55] <scythe> t-250
[04:55] <digitalslacker> abattoir: yeah, turned it on at 1 minute and worked normally and turned it back off, which it seems to be working after 1 minute
[04:56] <scythe> the only os that has been able to read (and not wright) to it was a freebsd based live cd
[04:56] <Ertain> Okay, I now have it recognized.  Now all I need to do is catagorize it.
[04:56] <abattoir> digitalslacker: so it works fine?
[04:56] <scythe> and that was sporadic at best
[04:56] <digitalslacker> so far it seems to be working as I hoped
[04:57] <abattoir> scythe: i think model names are more complicated than that...
[04:58] <abattoir> but see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/SonyVGN-FE11H
[04:58] <abattoir> one tester says it works
[04:58] <scythe> abatoir, its a vgn-t250
[04:59] <dr_willis_> scythe,  my old Vaio-Gr390 worked.. but its old. :P not tried a newer sony. My Compaq - i cant tet any of the memory-stick slots working.
[05:00] <scythe> yeah, this one is odd... i think it is connected throught the pcmcia bus
[05:01] <scythe> heard that someone got it working by throwing scsi commands at it, but that is above my skill
[05:02] <scythe> every time i find a howto get it to work, it doesnt work
[05:02] <ken> actinic, i have the network set up, and i can browse through the file system of my client, i was wondering if there was a way to gain complete control over my client
[05:03] <ken> like view the desktop, i guess
[05:03] <scythe> ken, have you tried a vpn server / client setup?
[05:03] <dr_willis_> ken,  vnc is handy also for such tasks
[05:03] <scythe> vnc, not vpn, ignore my last post :)
[05:04] <ken> no, i haven't tried vnc
[05:04] <dr_willis_> if its a linux to linux box - that freenx is niceer i hear.. but i use vnc for all sorts of neat things
[05:04] <scythe> and if its a windows box you are trying to control, terminal server
[05:04] <ken> they both run dapper
[05:04] <dr_willis_> you can start a remote x 'session' on  say alt-ctrl-f8 if ya set things up right also. :P
[05:04] <ken> should i be able to find a guide to vnc?
[05:05] <dr_willis_> dozen ways to do it.
[05:05] <dr_willis_> depends ion exactly what you need the thing to do.
[05:05] <dr_willis_> vnc is rather trivial in its basic ussage.
[05:06] <ken> i'm not going to get real into it, i just want to be able to view my clients desktop on my computer
[05:07] <scythe> most all vnc clients will do that
[05:08] <dr_willis_> ken,  viewing the desktop as THEY also view it - can take a little more setting up.
[05:08] <dr_willis_> gnome has that feature, not sure if kde has it also.
[05:09] <dr_willis_> but i find that way of doing vnc - slows down the system a lot more then if you just 'ssh in' and start a new vnc session (thats hidden)
[05:09] <scythe> it does, but I am not looking at a linux desktop right now
[05:09] <dr_willis_> windows vnc - shares the existing desktiop. thats the only way it can do it. :)
[05:10] <ken> so it is possible?
[05:11] <dr_willis_> depends on what they are running.
[05:11] <dr_willis_> windows - vnc can do it - trivially.
[05:11] <ken> but dapper can not?
[05:11] <dr_willis_> linux - vnc can do it.. or freenx.
[05:11] <dr_willis_> gnome - has such a feature built in.
[05:12] <ken> i'm running gnome
[05:12] <dr_willis_> gnome has a built in vnc server/client thang.
[05:12] <dr_willis_> that makes it rather trivial (but slow from what ive seen)
[05:13] <ken> so how do i access the vnc thing, in gnome?
[05:14] <ken> nevermind, figured it out
[05:14] <ken> thanks a lot
[05:14] <dr_willis_> when in doubt read the fine gnome manuals. :)
[05:15] <dr_willis_> the kde default viewer client is called.. krdc or some similer hard to rember name., :)
[05:15] <dr_willis_> seems people like to change what they call 'vnc' when its really vnc. :) sounds nicer to call it kde-remote-desktop or somthing I guess
[05:18] <actinic> so i drag my UT script file to the desktop
[05:18] <actinic> where's the ut icon?
[05:19] <actinic> all it shows is kind of like a txt file
[05:19] <actinic> no 'U' icon
[05:19] <actinic> i right click on properties and point it to the proper png file
[05:19] <actinic> no go
[05:20] <dr_willis_> a script file is a text file aint it. :P
[05:20] <actinic> yes, but it's executable
[05:20] <scythe> chmod the file then
[05:21] <actinic> why, isn't it already chmoded by virtue i can click ... it executes
[05:21] <actinic> ?
[05:21] <actinic> and the properties say it's executable
[05:21] <dr_willis_> why would you expect it to have  a UT icon? if its just a script..
[05:21] <scythe> oh, I thought you meant that it wasnt when you said but its exc...
[05:21] <actinic> because that's how other distros do it
[05:22] <actinic> and ... there's a bug in Kubuntu
[05:22] <dr_willis_> I cant recall ever seeing it.
[05:22] <scythe> welcome to debian(ish) jk
[05:22] <Hobbsee> actinic: there are many bugs.  which one is this?
[05:22] <dr_willis_> what makes it different from any other script?
[05:22] <actinic> can't get rid of automatic preview
[05:22] <actinic> this seems to impede display of custom icons on the desktop
[05:22] <actinic> it's been recreated numerous times by other users
[05:23] <actinic> don't believe me?  drag a txt file to the desktop
[05:23] <actinic> try disabling automatic preview
[05:23] <dr_willis_> personally i dont put ANY icons on the desktop. :)
[05:23] <scythe> could you put a small png on your desktop and link it to the script?
[05:23] <actinic> well there's a solution
[05:23] <scythe> or other way round
[05:23] <actinic> lol
[05:24] <dr_willis_> or not worry about trivial things like icons. :P
[05:24] <scythe> hehe
[05:24] <actinic> just don't put icons on the desktop, regardless of how inconveient that may be
[05:24] <actinic> if there's a bug, steer around it
[05:24] <dr_willis_> i fond icons on the desktop to be the sign of a cluttered mind. :P
[05:24] <actinic> or a bugged distro :)
[05:24] <scythe> anyone know of a way to make kicker act like mac osx dock?
[05:25] <actinic> in this case Kubuntu
[05:26] <actinic> Hobbsee, what are some of the critical bugs you can link me to?
[05:26] <Hobbsee> actinic: critical bugs?  hmmm...
[05:26] <Hobbsee> !bug
[05:26] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[05:26] <Hobbsee> set the status for critical, and hit search
[05:26] <actinic> how 'bout K ubuntu?
[05:27] <actinic> or the same thing?
[05:27] <Hobbsee> actinic: https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs list most kubuntu bugs, but the same thing
[05:27] <actinic> or is there a KDE bug report method
[05:27] <Hobbsee> no, it's at the same place as ubuntus
[05:27] <actinic> it's hard to know whether it's distro or KDE related
[05:28] <Hobbsee> actinic: could be either, i'm not sure.  bugs.kde.org is KDE place for bus
[05:28] <Hobbsee> *bugs
[05:28] <Hobbsee> file it there - see if they tell you if it's a kde related problem
[05:29] <OOD> scythe: yes it's possible, but the app is alled kxdocker
[05:29] <abattoir> !info kxdocker
[05:29] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB
[05:29] <abattoir> scythe: ^^^^
[05:30] <actinic> i'll show you a screenshot in a moment
[05:30] <dr_willis_> innovative?
[05:31] <scythe> looking it up now
[05:31] <actinic> ftp://oberon.gotdns.com/mist4.jpg  <--- lovely, isn't it?
[05:32] <bob1973> anyone use kubuntu on a tablet pc? with the pen?
[05:33] <OOD> actinic: uh, what about it?
[05:33] <actinic> no UT icon
[05:33] <actinic> you know, the "u"
[05:33] <OOD> thougt it was a regular txt file :P
[05:33] <Desh> Using wlassistant is basically like wusing iwconfig in the terminal, right? Except in this case wlassistant takes what you enters and does the appropriate iwconfig commands intself?
[05:33] <bob1973> I have a new gateway tablet and everything works great except I can't seem to find out how to make the pen work ?
[05:33] <actinic> it's executable
[05:34] <actinic> you should be able to assign ANY icon
[05:34] <OOD> you tried, and you can't ?
[05:35] <actinic> many times
[05:35] <actinic> try it yourself
[05:35] <actinic> drag a *.txt file to the desktop
[05:35] <actinic> try changing the icon to kate, kwrite, whatever ...
[05:35] <actinic> you'll find you can't either
[05:36] <OOD> i don't think this is a bug
[05:36] <actinic> oh?
[05:36] <actinic> it works in other distros just fine
[05:36] <OOD> with kde?
[05:36] <actinic> yes
[05:36] <actinic> kanotix, pclinuxos, ...
[05:37] <actinic> what gives you the impression it isn't a bug?
[05:37] <actinic> you've had similar dealings?
[05:37] <actinic> success in assigning icons?
[05:37] <actinic> trial & error?
[05:37] <OOD> since you can make a shortcut to the text file and give that an app
[05:37] <actinic> ry it
[05:37] <OOD> give that an icon*
[05:37] <actinic> err try it
[05:37] <actinic> yourself
[05:38] <actinic> report back
[05:38] <scythe> kxdocker looks slick, downloading it now :)
[05:38] <OOD> actinic: k i got an icon
[05:38] <actinic> steps please
[05:39] <scythe> thankx for the tip
[05:39] <actinic> thanks
[05:39] <amundsen> hi
[05:39] <OOD> right click desktop, click: link to application
[05:39] <OOD> then link the script, and give it an icon by right clicking it and clicking the box
[05:40] <fazex> hi guys
[05:40] <fazex> Is this a good place to ask about a driver install problem?
[05:40] <actinic> how do you link to script?
[05:40] <OOD> eh, i take it that the ut2004 it a script that launches the game
[05:41] <actinic> correct
[05:41] <amundsen> i'm having a problem with the latest versions of KDE. I remember that in older version, there was an "icon zooming" option in for the desktop panel, but with tha actual "mouserover effect" it desappeared
[05:41] <amundsen> does anyone know something about this ?
[05:41] <fazex> Can someone help with a video driver question? When I install a new NVIDIA kernel and start my xserver it works perfectly but when i reboot it tells me that my NVIDIA kernel version does not match my X server version. How do I tell it to use my new NVIDIA kernel and not the old one?
[05:41] <OOD> actinic: right click desktop, select link to application, go to the third tab, and browse for the script and select it
[05:42] <actinic> go it
[05:42] <actinic> err got it!
[05:42] <actinic> looks like you can't simply drag & drop
[05:42] <amundsen> can anyone help me ?
[05:42] <amundsen> please
[05:42] <actinic> thanks man
[05:42] <OOD> actinic: no problem
[05:43] <OOD> amundsen: you want to have bigger icons on the desktop?
[05:43] <dr_willis_> just make a panel for ya launchers :)
[05:45] <dominatrix> ok, i just created a FAT32 Partition so i can transfer files from linux to windows, and every time i click on it that it "could not mount on device" and "cant find in /etc/fstab/ or etc/mtab/" any ideas?
[05:45] <fazex> So any run into this problem?
[05:45] <dr_willis_> make a correct fstab entry for it
[05:45] <OOD> fazex: you're not installing an nvidia kernel, you're installing a kernel module, i take it you downloaded the driver from the nvida site right?
[05:45] <dr_willis_> !vfat
[05:45] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[05:46] <dominatrix> dr_willis: thanks
[05:46] <amundsen> OOD: i want the panel icons become bigger just when the mouse cursor stays over them
[05:46] <fazex> yes
[05:46] <dr_willis_> i just use that tool that lets windows read/write Ext2/3 filesystems. and keep my data on linux drives
[05:47] <OOD> fazex: the problem is, the default kernel module with the nvidia driver doesn't match your kernel
[05:48] <OOD> fazex: you can either compile it to match your kernel, or get it from the repository like this:
[05:48] <OOD> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:48] <OOD> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[05:48] <dr_willis_> !nvidia
[05:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:48] <OOD> i'm done explaining, that's all there is too it :P
[05:50] <amundsen> OOD:  i want the panel icons become bigger just when the mouse cursor stays over them
[05:50] <devlin-> What difference would it make changing from the i386 kernel to the i686?
[05:51] <dr_willis_> i recall that effect... hated it. :)
[05:51] <whizz-> what can i use to join split files like the ones found on usenet?
[05:52] <OOD> amundsen: hmm. i'm don't know anything about that, sorry
[05:53] <ilda> will dpkg willingly downgrade packages with just the -i switch?
[05:54] <dejot> hi
[05:54] <dejot> can anyone tell me where the konquerer saves the cookies?
[05:55] <ilda> i have this cd with saved packages, some of which were in the new install,   i did dpkg -i *.deb   and it is saying 'warning downgrading debconf' amongst others...  ?
[05:57] <dive-o> total newbie question on the way: what's the preferred way of convincing kubuntu to run at a higher resolution? it seems to think the max this setup can handle is 1024x768, which isn't accurate, and I'm not sure where to change that (I come from a mainly BSD background, so I'm used to just editing XF86Config...)
[05:58] <dr_willis_> you can edit the xorg.conf
[05:58] <dr_willis_> but what dio ya need to edit it to be?
[05:58] <dive-o> 1280x1024 is what I'm used to
[05:59] <dr_willis_> Hmm - odd that id dident get that res right.
[05:59] <dr_willis_> could rerun the X configuration tool.
[05:59] <dr_willis_> !fixres
[05:59] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:59] <dive-o> devlin: did that, it maxes at 1024x768.
[06:00] <dr_willis_> it may be it thinks the monitor can only handle that.
[06:00] <devlin-> well I did preface it with I'm a newbie lol
[06:00] <dive-o> dunno, Xorg under other OS's will run just fine at 1280x1024
[06:00] <dr_willis_> if using ati or nvidia cards. install the proper drivers for the card. then try to recongiorue
[06:00] <dr_willis_> ya could always check out the other x configs and try them.
[06:01] <dr_willis_> they should be mostly compatiable.
[06:01] <dive-o> good point... need to find an amd64 driver for a geforce 7800GT
[06:01] <actinic> OOD, the nvidia binary howto says *not* to install nvidia-xconfig
[06:01] <dive-o> are we talking the drivers straight from the vendor, or something else?
[06:02] <devlin-> I've got a weird video prob too... apparently something tells my login screen I have a much bigger display than I really do, but once KDE loads its fine...
[06:02] <OOD> !nvidia
[06:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:02] <actinic> quote: " DO NOT install either package in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS because it will remove nvidia-glx. These programs are now provided in nvidia-glx."
[06:02] <dr_willis_> kde can have settings on a per user basis as to what res to use.
[06:02] <OOD> actinic: it's not a package
[06:02] <dr_willis_> changes it on the fly.
[06:03] <dr_willis_> odd that X is getting it wrong however.
[06:03] <devlin-> its a pain because often I have to scroll around to find the login box..
[06:03] <actinic> "If you are running Hoary Hedgehog or Breezy Badger, then install nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig. DO NOT install either package in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS because it will remove nvidia-glx. These programs are now provided in nvidia-glx."
[06:04] <OOD> sudo nvidia-xconfig doesn't install that package, it sets xorg.conf to use the nv driver
[06:04] <actinic> kind of confusing
[06:04] <dejot> nobody knows where the konqueror cookies are located?
[06:04] <dive-o> hmm
[06:04] <dr_willis_> better off to do a clean install. :P
[06:04] <dr_willis_> dejot,  i would guess in the .kde/share/apps or similer dir.
[06:05] <dive-o> looks like I don't even have synaptic
[06:05] <OOD> actinic: sudo nvidia-xconfig and sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig are 2 different things
[06:05] <dr_willis_> Kubuntu has its own variant.
[06:05] <dejot> dr_willis_: can be, thanks
[06:05] <actinic> i wish the howto was more clear on this
[06:05] <dive-o> dr_willis: the add/remove programs thing, I assume?
[06:05] <actinic> thanks
[06:06] <dr_willis_>  installing the nvidia drivers is about a 3 line cut/paste fromn the howto job. :P
[06:06] <OOD> actinic: it's the same thing as sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, i remember the other line better :)
[06:06] <actinic> :)
[06:07] <actinic> lol, then just show 3 lines to cut & paste
[06:07] <actinic> and forget the rest
[06:08] <OOD> it's 2, and i did
[06:08] <bob1973> how can I make my tablet pen work in kubuntu?
[06:08] <dive-o> dr_willis: aye, you're correct, I didn't read down far enough. Sorry.
[06:09] <actinic> if you're going to compile, if you're running, if you've got the right version ...
[06:09] <actinic> it's those 'if's' which always getcha :)
[06:09] <dive-o> hmm, nvidia-glx-config enable errors out saying my config has been changed
[06:10] <dive-o> guess I need to find the original and diff it
[06:10] <actinic> so what's your glxgears -printfps showing?
[06:10] <dr_willis_> 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.5 fps :)
[06:11] <dive-o> haven't restarted X, but I'll give it a shot
[06:11] <dive-o> dive@ender:/etc/X11$ glxgears -printfps
[06:11] <dive-o> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[06:11] <actinic> wow, and you still suck in games!
[06:11] <dr_willis_> cover up the glxgears window  with another window and watch the FPS go way up! :)
[06:11] <actinic> :)
[06:11] <actinic> about 7500 fps here
[06:11] <actinic> 6600GT
[06:12] <actinic> pci-e
[06:12] <actinic> opteron 146 @ 2.7 ghz
[06:12] <devlin-> Ubuntu/Kubuntu by default installs with the i386 version of the linux kernel, I have a 1.7Ghz Celeron would I see any performance improvement switching my kernel to the i686 one?
[06:12] <dive-o> 7800GT pci-e here, 4200x2 @ 2.2ghz per core
[06:13] <actinic> nice system there dive-o ... why are u running linux, lol
[06:13] <bob1973> does anyone have experience with a tablet pc in kubuntu ? i could use some help
[06:13] <actinic> that's a gaming system
[06:13] <Eeyore> ! dvd
[06:13] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:13] <dive-o> actinic: because while gaming is great on this box, I just can't stand windows as an all-purpose OS.
[06:13] <unix_infidel> bob1973: linux isnt ready for the tablet pc....
[06:13] <Eeyore> ! mp3
[06:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:14] <Eeyore> ! movie
[06:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about movie - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:14] <dr_willis_> unix_infidel,  that Nokia 770 is a tablet that runs linux. :)
[06:14] <Eeyore> ! win32
[06:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about win32 - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:14] <dive-o> actinic: FreeBSD has a weird bug with my gigabit chipset that hangs large transfers after a while, and NetBSD is just plain funky on this machine
[06:14] <unix_infidel> dr_willis_: anyone can make proprietary hardware and make custom drivers for it with the money.
[06:14] <lucas> which is the command to install sun-java5-jdk package? apt-get what else?
[06:14] <actinic> dive-o, understandable
[06:14] <unix_infidel> dr_willis_: also, it has none of the features which make a tablet pc worth buying, that's a tablet, not a tablet pc.
[06:15] <actinic> just today my win box almost got hosed going to a 'jacked' website
[06:15] <actinic> know what is was?  http://forums.scotsnewsletter.com
[06:15] <dive-o> any hints on where to look to figure out what changed in my xorg config that's annoying nvidia-glx-config?
[06:15] <actinic> i'm sure we'll hear more about it tomorrow
[06:15] <lucas> dive-o: what card?
[06:15] <dive-o> lucas: pci-e 7800GT
[06:16] <lucas> dive-o: excelent
[06:16] <lucas> dive-o: give me a min
[06:16] <unix_infidel> anyone know of a 3rd party repo where i can download postgresql-8.1 debs for ubuntu?
[06:17] <actinic> temp3:     +35.5C  (high =   +65C, hyst =   +60C)   sensor = thermistor
[06:17] <unix_infidel> this is just for testing purposes so i'd much rathe rnot compile.
[06:17] <lucas> dive-o: go to ` Section "Device" 
[06:17] <lucas> dive-o: tell me when there
[06:17] <dive-o> Section "Device" A specifically?
[06:17] <Eeyore> ! xine
[06:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about xine - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:18] <actinic> !lmsensors
[06:18] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[06:18] <martynda> hi, how do i pick a previous version of the kernel to boot to? currently have 2.6.15-26, need to boot to 15-25
[06:18] <Eeyore> ! w32codecs
[06:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:18] <aegeanlinux_> what about xine?
[06:18] <aegeanlinux_> !xine
[06:18] <dive-o> I've got the normal Device section, but not one with an A tag
[06:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about xine - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:18] <aegeanlinux_> lol, i see
[06:18] <lucas> dive-o: thats ok
[06:18] <lucas> dive-o: what do u have in there?
[06:18] <dive-o> lucas: want me to paste in msg so as not to spam the channel?
[06:19] <dive-o> it's only three lines, but hey :)
[06:19] <lucas> im not registered
[06:19] <lucas> can u wait a min?
[06:19] <lucas> ill be back
[06:19] <dive-o> sure
[06:19] <unix_infidel> anyone know where i can find postgresql 8.1 debs for debian / ubuntu?
[06:21] <luc45> dive-o im back
[06:22] <luc45> dive-o: now u can pvt-msg me
[06:22] <dive-o> whoops, I'm not registered either.
[06:23] <luc45> dive-o lolol
[06:23] <dive-o> didn't know privmsg was restricted on freenode, when did that happen?
[06:23] <dive-o> lemme login to my mailserver
[06:23] <easynintendo> hey is anyone here familiar with amarok?
[06:23] <Hawkwind> dive-o: Many months ago
[06:23] <luc45> dive-o: use /msg nickserv register <passworg>
[06:23] <aegeanlinux_> yes
[06:23] <easynintendo> is there a way to setup amarok to always be in repeat playlist mode?
[06:23] <aegeanlinux_> I use amarok all the time
[06:23] <aegeanlinux_> listening to music now
[06:23] <easynintendo> because every time i run it or change playlists i have to manually change it
[06:24] <easynintendo> as it is now
[06:24] <luc45> dive-o: then /msg nickserv identify <same passwort>
[06:24] <easynintendo> yes i know thats normal but i want to change it
[06:24] <easynintendo> is it possible?
[06:24] <aegeanlinux_> so, you want to change it to do ...
[06:25] <easynintendo> i want amarok to always no matter whether i reload it or load a different playlist to stay in repeat all mode
[06:25] <easynintendo> basically to loop whatever playlist ive got loaded over and over until i change it
[06:25] <easynintendo> i have to manually choose repeat> playlist now
[06:26] <dive-o> amarok didn't want to play a stream I was trying to listen to :(
[06:26] <aegeanlinux_> Thats the only way to change ... Look in options
[06:26] <easynintendo> dive-o what sort of stream?
[06:26] <sotired> hello
[06:27] <OOD> hey
[06:27] <Whil> hiya
[06:27] <sotired> im having this damn problem with ./configure
[06:27] <aegeanlinux_> dive-o: what type of strean
[06:27] <Smonkey> And that problem would be?
[06:27] <aegeanlinux_> sotired: what's your problem?
[06:27] <aegeanlinux_> Smonkey: lols
[06:28] <dive-o> aegeanlinux: www.jungletrain.net's 64k stream
[06:28] <dive-o> shoutcast
[06:28] <easynintendo> dive-o, try VLC media player
[06:28] <easynintendo> it handles shoutcast streams VERY well
[06:28] <aegeanlinux_> dive-o: I shall try it here
[06:28] <easynintendo> at least in windows it does
[06:29] <Whil> any advice on what to use for windows media streams?
[06:29] <easynintendo> no clue in linux
[06:29] <aegeanlinux_> works fine here
[06:29] <aegeanlinux_> http://stream1.jungletrain.net:8000/listen.pls
[06:29] <easynintendo> if you have the win32 codecs VLC can play windows media streams
[06:29] <aegeanlinux_> Yes, helix engine
[06:29] <easynintendo> but im not sure how well
[06:29] <doppelganger_> sup ;P
[06:29] <aegeanlinux_> with amarok
[06:29] <Eeyore> w32
[06:29] <Eeyore> !s32
[06:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about s32 - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:29] <Eeyore> ! w32
[06:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about w32 - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:29] <aegeanlinux_> dive-o: http://stream1.jungletrain.net:8000/listen.pls
[06:29] <easynintendo> !win32
[06:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about win32 - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:29] <Eeyore> ! win32
[06:29] <Whil> I do but I'm having a heck of a time getting them to play. says no picture
[06:29] <aegeanlinux_> !windows
[06:29] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[06:30] <doppelganger_> i'm gonna try and install a them real quick aegean, just for fucks sake
[06:30] <easynintendo> LOL
[06:30] <doppelganger_> lol, brb
[06:30] <Eeyore> ! win32codecs
[06:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about win32codecs - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:30] <sotired> sorry had to disconnect
[06:30] <Eeyore> ! restricted formats
[06:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:30] <Hawkwind> !language
[06:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:30] <Hawkwind> doppelganger_: ^^^^^^^^^^
[06:30] <aegeanlinux_> doppelganger_: install what???
[06:30] <sotired> ill pastebin my ./configure issue
[06:30] <aegeanlinux_> thanks sotired
[06:30] <dive-o> amarok says it's playing, but I'm not hearing anything. the default KDE crap from arts sounds fine
[06:31] <aegeanlinux_> I am listening to it now
[06:31] <doppelganger_> what? i'm not sure what yet, haha
[06:31] <doppelganger_> just something spiffy
[06:32] <doppelganger_> pick me out something badass ;p
[06:32] <easynintendo> aegean
[06:32] <aegeanlinux_> dive-o: what engine are you using
[06:32] <aegeanlinux_> easynintendo: yes
[06:32] <sotired> i get this when installing KXdocker http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17884
[06:32] <aegeanlinux_> thanks sotired
[06:32] <doppelganger_> nvm, i'll just go explore ;P
[06:32] <easynintendo> any idea how long itll take amarok to catalog 119 gigs of MP3s into its collection?
[06:32] <dr_willis_> !info kxdocker
[06:32] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB
[06:32] <aegeanlinux_> yes, about 30 mins
[06:32] <sotired> aegeanlinux: No.... thank YOU!
[06:32] <aegeanlinux_> mught be longer if its an old amarok
[06:33] <easynintendo> you do realise i said 119 gigs not megs
[06:33] <aegeanlinux_> install qt-dev
[06:33] <easynintendo> 119 thousand megs
[06:33] <easynintendo> lol
[06:33] <aegeanlinux_> I know I know easynintendo
[06:33] <easynintendo> lol ok just checking
[06:33] <aegeanlinux_> sotired: install qt-dev
[06:33] <easynintendo> would take winamp a good 8 hours
[06:33] <easynintendo> to catalog it into its library
[06:33] <easynintendo> believe me ive tried
[06:33] <aegeanlinux_> and libjpeg-dev
[06:33] <sotired> ive tried that
[06:34] <sotired> it tells me something about broken packages
[06:34] <dr_willis_> 119gb of music... of which you like 9 songs..
[06:34] <dr_willis_> :P
[06:34] <aegeanlinux_> Got no idea then
[06:34] <easynintendo> aegean my amarok is 1.4.1-beta1
[06:34] <aegeanlinux_> whats it say about broken packages?
[06:34] <easynintendo> how old is it?
[06:34] <aegeanlinux_> update you amarok to 1.4.1
[06:34] <aegeanlinux_> not the beta
[06:34] <aegeanlinux_> that uses inotify
[06:34] <aegeanlinux_> so if you update one file it will rescan your whole collection
[06:34] <Smonkey> easynintendo: It's not the size of the files that is going to matter, but how many their are.
[06:34] <aegeanlinux_> real buggy
[06:34] <easynintendo> 1.4.1 isnt in the repositories for my distro yet
[06:34] <easynintendo> i use suse 10.1
[06:34] <aegeanlinux_> abd 1.4.1 is nicer
[06:34] <aegeanlinux_> *and
[06:35] <aegeanlinux_> dang
[06:35] <easynintendo> 1.4.1-beta1 is the latest
[06:35] <aegeanlinux_> is it ??
[06:35] <easynintendo> in 10.1 yes
[06:35] <OOD> why are you in the kubuntu channel? lol
[06:35] <easynintendo> because the suse channel is full of morons
[06:35] <aegeanlinux_> I use aegean OOD
[06:35] <easynintendo> who expect me to be an expert at the commandline
[06:35] <aegeanlinux_> amarok is 1.4.1
[06:35] <aegeanlinux_> beta finished i think
[06:35] <aegeanlinux_> Amarok 'Fast Forward' 1.4.1
[06:35] <aegeanlinux_> thats the homepage
[06:36] <aegeanlinux_> Amarok "Fast Forward" 1.4.1-beta1 On The Road  is bellow that
[06:36] <aegeanlinux_> http://amarok.kde.org/
[06:36] <easynintendo> the build date on my amarok is june 19th 2006
[06:36] <aegeanlinux_>  Tue Jul 11 05:33:25 2006 UTC
[06:36] <vaka> i have amarok 1.4.1
[06:36] <OOD> easynintendo: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/Download
[06:36] <aegeanlinux_> 1.4.1 is newer
[06:36] <aegeanlinux_> trust me
[06:36] <aegeanlinux_> it is
[06:37] <aegeanlinux_> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/amarok <--- look at the date of the source packages
[06:37] <easynintendo> i understand that it may be newer
[06:37] <easynintendo> but it isnt yet in the repos
[06:37] <Search4Lancer> are there any programs I could use to recover deleted files?
[06:37] <easynintendo> for my distro
[06:37] <OOD> easynintendo: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/Download
[06:37] <OOD> posted it again :P
[06:37] <easynintendo> OOD i am not an expert by any means
[06:37] <easynintendo> id just as soon not try to manually install something
[06:37] <OOD> just download the rpm and install it
[06:38] <aegeanlinux_> Search4Lancer: not for ext3
[06:38] <Hawkwind> Install an rpm ?
[06:38] <Search4Lancer> bummer
[06:38] <vaka> amarok 1.4.1 has a bug with the dinamic playlists
[06:38] <sotired> what does it mean if it says break in red next to a package in adept?
[06:38] <aegeanlinux_> Hawkwind: do you use deb
[06:38] <Desh> Why would I get this when I run glxgears: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:38] <Hawkwind> Hopefully he's not installing rpms on Ubuntu
[06:38] <aegeanlinux_> vaka: who cares, it works
[06:38] <OOD> Hawkwind: no he's on Suse
[06:39] <easynintendo> i can install a deb in suse though
[06:39] <easynintendo> alien is awesome lol
[06:39] <easynintendo> i used it to install my frostwire
[06:39] <vaka> the columns in the playlist are mixed
[06:39] <OOD> yea alien is great :D
[06:39] <aegeanlinux_> I think you should use AegeanLinux (shameless plug) www.aegeanlinux.be
[06:39] <easynintendo> lol wtf?
[06:39] <easynintendo> you program aegean?
[06:40] <Eeyore> Search4Lancer: what happened ?
[06:40] <aegeanlinux_> compile
[06:40] <easynintendo> perhaps you could figure out my problem installing cedega 5.2.1
[06:40] <aegeanlinux_> sure
[06:40] <easynintendo> it cant find /bin/sh , so it wont install
[06:40] <easynintendo> which is odd considering bash is part of every base system on any distro
[06:41] <Search4Lancer> Eeyore: deleted some downloaded photos and an archive file earlier today... now wishing I hadn't :-P Trying a jpeg recovery package right now...
[06:41] <easynintendo> could me being on x86_64 affect that?
[06:41] <aegeanlinux_> I agree
[06:41] <aegeanlinux_> maybe
[06:41] <easynintendo> its an i386 rpm
[06:41] <easynintendo> there are no x64 builds of it
[06:41] <easynintendo> and i lack the source code
[06:41] <aegeanlinux_> cedega is a comercial app
[06:41] <aegeanlinux_> like microsoft windows
[06:41] <easynintendo> yes i know
[06:41] <OOD> you can use an x86 version can't you?
[06:42] <Eeyore> windows or linux Search4Lancer
[06:42] <aegeanlinux_> yes
[06:42] <easynintendo> yes but it wants /bin/sh when i try to install it
[06:42] <easynintendo> which is bash
[06:42] <easynintendo> it cant find it
[06:42] <Search4Lancer> Eeyore: what channel is this again? ;-)
[06:42] <aegeanlinux_> have you tried running it as root (GASP)
[06:42] <easynintendo> lol
[06:42] <easynintendo> im not that new to linux
[06:42] <easynintendo> su is your friend =P
[06:42] <easynintendo> or sudo in kubuntu
[06:42] <easynintendo> as it were
[06:42] <Eeyore> Search4Lancer: http://www.porcupine.org/forensics/tct.html
[06:43] <aegeanlinux_> but have you tried it
[06:43] <easynintendo> lol
[06:43] <easynintendo> yes
[06:43] <Search4Lancer> Eeyore: thanks - however, I never seem to be able to compile programs from their source code
[06:44] <aegeanlinux_> Search4Lancer: I'll be here to help if you need it
[06:45] <easynintendo> aegean, is there a way to recompile flash to be x64 compatible? or is there no source for it?
[06:45] <easynintendo> i mean i got it working in suse fine because its in the repositories
[06:45] <easynintendo> suse installs an i586 build of firefox, so flash works in it
[06:46] <DaSkreech> easynintendo: Sure. Just grab the source
[06:46] <aegeanlinux_> no
[06:46] <easynintendo> flash isnt opensource
[06:46] <aegeanlinux_> have to wait till the end of the year
[06:47] <aegeanlinux_> flash is comming out with 64bit version soon
[06:47] <aegeanlinux_> end of year
[06:47] <easynintendo> cool
[06:47] <easynintendo> does VMware work in x64 distros?
[06:47] <aegeanlinux_> yes it does
[06:47] <easynintendo> is that a preferable alternative to wine for getting windows apps that arent games working?
[06:48] <easynintendo> wine doesnt like any of my programs lol
[06:48] <aegeanlinux_> yes, it is called crossover office
[06:48] <OOD> vmware isn't for gaming
[06:48] <aegeanlinux_> they are the people who gave wine to the public
[06:48] <easynintendo> OOD perhaps you need to read what i said again
[06:48] <aegeanlinux_> you can get a free copy if you help them get a program to work in it
[06:48] <easynintendo> a free copy of what?
[06:49] <aegeanlinux_> crossover office pro
[06:49] <easynintendo> oh
[06:49] <easynintendo> is it better than wine?
[06:49] <aegeanlinux_> yes
[06:49] <aegeanlinux_> it runs office 2003 (mostly)
[06:49] <aegeanlinux_> all except access
[06:49] <aegeanlinux_> and visio
[06:49] <easynintendo> will it allow an install of internet explorer 5.5 or newer so that yahoo messenger will work?
[06:49] <easynintendo> wine doesnt
[06:50] <aegeanlinux_> yes
[06:50] <aegeanlinux_> it even has a wizard for installing explorer 6 & 5.5
[06:50] <aegeanlinux_> and windows media player
[06:50] <DaSkreech> easynintendo: Why do you want Yahoo messenger?
[06:50] <easynintendo> can i get a link>?
[06:50] <aegeanlinux_> there is a script for wine to install ie
[06:50] <aegeanlinux_> http://www.codeweavers.com
[06:50] <Hawkwind> ymessenger is yahoo messenger for Linux anyways.
[06:50] <easynintendo> because theres no chatroom/file transfer/webcam capable yahoo client for linux that also supports voice
[06:51] <easynintendo> no it is pager
[06:51] <easynintendo> buddy list only
[06:51] <Hawkwind> Gaim does it all.  You should use it
[06:51] <easynintendo> gaim doesnt support yahoo 7.x file transfers or yahoo webcams at all
[06:51] <easynintendo> nor voice
[06:51] <johnsandman> is there a programm two compare two pics together for one pic ??
[06:51] <Hawkwind> easynintendo: Gaim 2.0 ?
[06:51] <aegeanlinux_> easynintendo: http://www.codeweavers.com
[06:51] <OOD> webcam support won't work in wine
[06:51] <easynintendo> gaim 2.0 is buggy and beta
[06:51] <kakalto> If I were to copy all of a kubuntu install to another hard drive and stick it into another computer, how would kubuntu handle it?
[06:52] <Hawkwind> easynintendo: I disagree
[06:52] <Hawkwind> easynintendo: Gaim 2.0 has worked perfectly here for months
[06:52] <easynintendo> and it fully supports yahoo 7.x file transfers, yahoo voice, voice in chatrooms and all of those other functions?
[06:53] <Desh> Question, what does this mean in my Xorg.0.log file:
[06:53] <Desh> II) Loading sub module "radeon"
[06:53] <Desh> (II) LoadModule: "radeon"
[06:53] <Desh> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so
[06:53] <easynintendo> cause thats not what the gaim website says
[06:53] <easynintendo> ;)
[06:53] <aegeanlinux_> easynintendo: you need to become an Advocate of a windows program
[06:53] <aegeanlinux_> easynintendo: then you get a free pro copy
[06:53] <aegeanlinux_> saves you $6y0
[06:53] <Hawkwind> easynintendo: It doesn't support webcam stuff yet, but it will very soon
[06:53] <aegeanlinux_> saves you $60
[06:53] <easynintendo> an advocate?
[06:54] <easynintendo> you mean dick with the program and make something run that didnt run before?
[06:54] <easynintendo> does ANY exe count?
[06:54] <easynintendo> or just major apps?
[06:54] <aegeanlinux_> just find a program you want to advocate
[06:54] <easynintendo> oh, is this crossover office an rpm installer?
[06:56] <easynintendo> its a .sh
[06:56] <easynintendo> so i do sh ./name.sh?
[06:56] <easynintendo> as root?
[06:56] <aegeanlinux_> you can get rpm deb or sh
[06:56] <easynintendo> there is only a link for the sh
[06:56] <aegeanlinux_> just ./*.sh as normal user
[06:56] <easynintendo> on the site
[06:57] <aegeanlinux_> are you an advocate?
[06:57] <aegeanlinux_> 'case it dont look like you have pro
[06:57] <aegeanlinux_> more of a demo
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: !! Hi
[06:58] <easynintendo> heh ill just grab a torrent for pro cause im not about to spend all that time messing around lol
[06:58] <easynintendo> torrent is my friend
[06:58] <Hobbsee> hi DaSkreech
[06:58] <aegeanlinux_> I can get you a link of pro
[06:58] <easynintendo> but pro is time limited
[06:58] <easynintendo> isnt it?
[06:59] <aegeanlinux_> no, thats the demo
[06:59] <easynintendo> oh
[07:00] <easynintendo> is your link of 5.0.3?
[07:00] <easynintendo> cause i found a torrent of 5.0
[07:00] <easynintendo> thats almost done downloading
[07:00] <aegeanlinux_> thats install-crossover-pro-5.0.3.sh
[07:01] <OOD> warez monkeys -,-
[07:01] <easynintendo> lol OOD linux is freeee
[07:01] <easynintendo> why not get all my shit for it freeeeee too? =P
[07:02] <OOD> crossoveroffice isnt
[07:02] <easynintendo> lol
[07:02] <easynintendo> so?
[07:02] <OOD> ..nevermind
[07:02] <DaSkreech> easynintendo: I think that is a good enough reason
[07:02] <DaSkreech> easynintendo: Please take this conversation to offtpic
[07:02] <DaSkreech> #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:02] <easynintendo> its already been taken out of the room skreech
[07:02] <DaSkreech> Cool
[07:03] <easynintendo> are you an op or something?
[07:03] <DaSkreech> No
[07:03] <easynintendo> oh
[07:04] <DaSkreech> However illegal activities are not to be discussed here
[07:04] <DaSkreech> It's in the Code of Conduct
[07:04] <easynintendo> actually hes not sending me anything that i couldnt get for free legally
[07:04] <easynintendo> advocate a program and get the program free
[07:04] <easynintendo> no catch
[07:04] <easynintendo> apparently
[07:04] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:04] <easynintendo> so then im fine either way =P
[07:05] <DaSkreech> well in any case this is a support channel
[07:05] <easynintendo> and i was getting support on getting yahoo to work in linux
[07:05] <easynintendo> ;)
[07:05] <DaSkreech> So lots of talking about subjects that are offtopic mask people asking for help
[07:05] <DaSkreech> That's fine
[07:05] <easynintendo> but wait
[07:05] <DaSkreech> Everytime I looked here I saw torrent and pro
[07:05] <DaSkreech> :)
[07:05] <easynintendo> people actually need help in kubuntu? its got an idiot-proof installer and seems to do nearly everything for you
[07:06] <easynintendo> ??
[07:06] <OOD> easynintendo: you're kidding right?
[07:06] <DaSkreech> easynintendo: Come here three times a week :)
[07:06] <easynintendo> OOD wanna know the meaning of problems? try doing a stage1 gentoo install
[07:06] <DaSkreech> you'll get asked about !mp3 like 4 times an hour
[07:06] <easynintendo> makes suse and kubuntu seem like winblowz
[07:06] <easynintendo> in terms of ease
[07:07] <OOD> easynintendo: that's not what i meant
[07:07] <OOD> people come here migrating from windows
[07:07] <easynintendo> oh
[07:07] <OOD> not knowing what a terminal is
[07:07] <OOD> kubuntu still isn't all mouse button pressing
[07:07] <dive-o> what all do I need to install to play dvds under kubuntu? (and general video files, for that matter)
[07:07] <DaSkreech> hi raphink
[07:07] <easynintendo> lol
[07:08] <easynintendo> my bad
[07:08] <DaSkreech> !DVD
[07:08] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:08] <raphink> hi DaSkreech
[07:09] <_acesuares> dive-o: you might want to goolge easybuntu
[07:09] <_acesuares> !easybuntu
[07:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about easybuntu - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:10] <easynintendo> !easy ubuntu
[07:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about easy ubuntu - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:10] <easynintendo> !windows
[07:10] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[07:10] <easynintendo> lol
[07:10] <OOD> lol
[07:11] <DaSkreech> I take it everyone knows bug one?
[07:11] <abattoir> !dpkg
[07:11] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[07:12] <aegeanlinux_> !pacman
[07:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about pacman - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:13] <aegeanlinux_> !aegeanlinux
[07:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about aegeanlinux - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:13] <aegeanlinux_> !suse
[07:13] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[07:13] <easynintendo> !slax
[07:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about slax - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:13] <easynintendo> !slackware
[07:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about slackware - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:13] <easynintendo> lol
[07:13] <nixternal> ease on the spam please
[07:13] <easynintendo> my bad sorry
[07:16] <DaSkreech> !fishing
[07:16] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[07:17] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:17] <drgonzo> hello
[07:18] <eniac_petrov> lo
[07:18] <drgonzo> Is there any package in kubuntu that has all the ooo templates?
[07:18] <blake_> heya
[07:18] <blake_> Anyone know of a good theme package?
[07:19] <DaSkreech> drgonzo: I don't think so
[07:19] <drgonzo> ok thanks
[07:19] <Hobbsee> blake_: see kdelook.org
[07:19] <blake_> thanks :D
[07:19] <abattoir> kde-look.org
[07:21] <drgonzo> There is a whole slew of office related templates http://documentation.openoffice.org/Samples_Templates/User/template/ Here
[07:21] <drgonzo> might be worth adding with default openoffice install? ( just a suggestion)
[07:22] <DaSkreech> drgonzo: You can package it if you like :)
[07:23] <drgonzo> ok, thanks again :)
[07:23] <dive-o> hmm, no mplayer apt for ubuntu?
[07:23] <dive-o> kmplayer-base is installed, but I'm not seeing it anywhere
[07:23] <abattoir> !info mplayer
[07:23] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In repository multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[07:23] <abattoir> dive-o: do you have multiverse enabled?
[07:24] <luc45> dive-o: kaffeine is better :)
[07:24] <dive-o> not that I know of; I've been using ubuntu for about 2-3 hours now.
[07:24] <abattoir> !multiverse
[07:24] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:24] <dive-o> I'm from a BSD background... and kaffeine isn't playing what I'm trying to watch - just the audio, no video.
[07:25] <luc45> dive-o: is it a dvd
[07:25] <luc45> ?
[07:25] <blake_> Hey how do you make your entire window transparent for Crystal?
[07:25] <dive-o> no, though I did just do all the dvd stuff
[07:25] <luc45> what is it?
[07:25] <luc45> may i know? :p
[07:25] <abattoir> dive-o: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu has more relevant info
[07:25] <dive-o> dive@ender:/jane/wd3a/video/Firefly$ file Firefly\ -\ 1x08\ -\ Ariel.avi
[07:25] <dive-o> Firefly - 1x08 - Ariel.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 704 x 384, 23.98 fps, video: XviD, audio: Dolby AC3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)
[07:26] <dive-o> (/jane is a collection of NFS shares)
[07:26] <luc45> !avi
[07:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:26] <luc45> go there. u need to install some libs
[07:26] <blake_> Me?
[07:26] <luc45> no
[07:27] <luc45> dive-o
[07:27] <abattoir> blake_: click on the icon in the windeco (top left corner) ->Configure Window behaviour-> Translucency
[07:27] <blake_> ah sorry
[07:27] <luc45> no prob
[07:27] <blake_> awesome, thank you so much
[07:28] <abattoir> blake_: you migh need to (define &) enable 'Composite' in xorg.conf
[07:28] <abattoir> *might
[07:28] <luc45> dive-o: got it?
[07:29] <dive-o> not yet, I'm guessing I need to enable the multiverse thing first before it can find these
[07:29] <luc45> yes
[07:30] <dive-o> !multiverse
[07:30] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:30] <abattoir> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu specifically
[07:30] <ColonelKernel> so I can just type out a question then?
[07:31] <luc45> just replace your /etc/apt/sources.list with this one: 	http://rapidshare.de/files/25705015/sources.list.html
[07:31] <luc45> (dive-o)
[07:31] <ColonelKernel> I have a problem connecting to my network
[07:31] <sysrpl> if i wanted to see what files were modified in 2005 or 2004 where would be the regular expression for 'dir /usr -l -R|grep -e'(what goes here>"?
[07:32] <luc45> div-o: do as u wish
[07:32] <ColonelKernel> It says Connection Failed after I tried to connect to my network although the net was detected
[07:33] <ColonelKernel> anybody?
[07:33] <ColonelKernel> Wireless card is the Linksys WUSB54G but the card seems to be fine...
[07:34] <Desh> Can someone help me with my fglrx driver? I get this error:
[07:34] <Desh> (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENOSPC"
[07:34] <Desh> (EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP
[07:34] <Desh> (II) fglrx(0): [drm]  removed 1 reserved context for kernel
[07:34] <Desh> (II) fglrx(0): [drm]  unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0x2000 at 0xb722c000
[07:34] <ColonelKernel> I don't think anybody is helpin us n00bs here
[07:34] <Desh> (WW) fglrx(0): ***********************************************
[07:34] <ColonelKernel> sorry lol
[07:34] <Desh> (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed!                  *
[07:34] <Desh> (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) *
[07:34] <Desh> (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO)             *
[07:34] <Desh> (WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available                *
[07:34] <Desh> (WW) fglrx(0): ********************************************* *
[07:34] <Desh> Damn, shoulda used pastebin, sorry
[07:35] <ColonelKernel> can u help me tho?
[07:35] <ColonelKernel> got an easier problem
[07:35] <ColonelKernel> anybody anybody?
[07:35] <Desh> What is your problem?
[07:35] <ColonelKernel> I can't connect to my WLAN
[07:35] <ColonelKernel> get the error Connection Failed
[07:36] <Desh> ndiswrapper?
[07:36] <ColonelKernel> didn't need it
[07:36] <ColonelKernel> Kubuntu recognized it
[07:36] <ColonelKernel> so it detected the networks and stuff
[07:36] <ColonelKernel> but can't connect so far
[07:36] <Desh> Oh, pastebin what you are trying, maybe I can help.
[07:36] <ColonelKernel> dunno how to do that
[07:36] <ColonelKernel> i'm a nub...
[07:36] <luc45> ColonelKernel: rtfm
[07:37] <luc45> ColonelKernel: :p
[07:37] <ColonelKernel> plus i'm not running kubuntu right now
[07:37] <ColonelKernel> cause internet doesn't work
[07:37] <luc45> lolol
[07:37] <ColonelKernel> but seems like a simple error
[07:37] <ColonelKernel> maybe something retarded that I'm doing
[07:37] <luc45> running windoUS$??????
[07:38] <ColonelKernel> omg just cause i can't get online yet in KUBUNTU
[07:38] <ColonelKernel> then windows is OUTTA HERE :DD
[07:38] <luc45> :p
[07:38] <ColonelKernel> so. gonna help me vanquish mr. gates?
[07:38] <jbrouhard> <-- can't get rid of WIndows just yet
[07:38] <jbrouhard> some of my apps still don't work in CXOffice
[07:38] <ColonelKernel> plz guys it's not a big problem I think.
[07:38] <jbrouhard> and I still play games that won't work in Cedega ;(
[07:39] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: is it a WPA network?
[07:39] <ColonelKernel> WEP
[07:39] <jbrouhard> What exactly is the error you get, ColonelKernel?
[07:39] <ColonelKernel> just Connection Failed
[07:39] <ColonelKernel> thats all
[07:39] <ColonelKernel> like 15 times
[07:39] <jbrouhard> hmm
[07:39] <jbrouhard> wireless ?
[07:39] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: through wlassistant? have you tried knetworkmanager?
[07:39] <ColonelKernel> yes
[07:39] <ColonelKernel> Linksys WUSB54G v4
[07:40] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: both give out similar errors?
[07:40] <ColonelKernel> both?
[07:40] <ColonelKernel> both what
[07:40] <aegeanlinux> does anyone know a program to mount .cue files without burning them?
[07:40] <abattoir> [11:09:19]  <abattoir> ColonelKernel: through wlassistant? have you tried knetworkmanager?
[07:40] <ColonelKernel> knetwork manager. nope didn't know about it.
[07:40] <ColonelKernel> is it superior or wat
[07:41] <abattoir> sometimes, it handles certain networks better
[07:41] <ColonelKernel> ok I could try that, but before I reboot and do that, any other possible causes?
[07:41] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: you can also try 'iwconfig'
[07:41] <ColonelKernel> i have
[07:42] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: what happens?
[07:42] <ColonelKernel> my card is detected and everything, but I don't know the commands to connect
[07:42] <abattoir> 'sudo iwconfig ethX essid Name key 123'
[07:42] <ColonelKernel> hmm
[07:42] <ColonelKernel> ethx?
[07:43] <ColonelKernel> its a usb adapter
[07:43] <abattoir> replace ethX, w/ iface, essid and key w/ essid and p/w
[07:43] <ColonelKernel> hmm
[07:43] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: yes, what is the name of the interface?
[07:43] <abattoir> wlan0, eth1 ?
[07:43] <ColonelKernel> its rausb0 i think
[07:43] <abattoir> ok, then put that in
[07:43] <abattoir> Name is the name of your network
[07:44] <ColonelKernel> so sudo iwconfig rausb0 Chellgate
[07:44] <ColonelKernel> wait
[07:44] <ColonelKernel> ESSID is Network name i thought
[07:44] <abattoir> 123 should be the encryption key
[07:44] <ColonelKernel> oh
[07:44] <ColonelKernel> ok
[07:44] <dive-o> ok, got mplayer working
[07:44] <flaccid> does anybody here use krusader???
[07:44] <ColonelKernel> so sudo iwconfig rausb0 essid chellgate key ****************?
[07:44] <ColonelKernel> like that abattoir?
[07:45] <abattoir> also after conenction... try 'sudo ifup rausb0' if its connected...
[07:45] <ColonelKernel> mmmkay
[07:45] <ColonelKernel> i gotta write that down :D
[07:45] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: enter your encryption key after 'key'
[07:45] <abattoir> else drop that if you dont have one
[07:45] <abattoir> i.e its an open  network
[07:45] <ColonelKernel> i do
[07:45] <flaccid> can i have a url to knetworkmanager?
[07:46] <abattoir> !info knetworkmanager
[07:46] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.1~svn-r533312-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 263 kB, installed size 1412 kB
[07:46] <abattoir> flaccid: 'sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager' if it isnt installed already
[07:47] <flaccid> thanks do you know if it works for other distros like redhat? i havnt changed to ubuntu on laptop yet
[07:47] <ColonelKernel> is ndiswrapper preinstalled on 6.06 LTS?
[07:47] <abattoir> flaccid: i'm not sure
[07:47] <basheer> I have a question
[07:47] <abattoir> !info ndiswrapper
[07:47] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in dapper
[07:47] <ColonelKernel> hmm.
[07:47] <abattoir> !info ndiswrapper-tools
[07:47] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper-tools does not exist in dapper
[07:48] <ColonelKernel> !info ndiswrapper
[07:48] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in dapper
[07:48] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: its called something else
[07:48] <ColonelKernel> wow
[07:48] <basheer> I am trying to install the kubuntu version of automatix
[07:48] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: what's it called theN?
[07:48] <abattoir> one sec
[07:48] <ColonelKernel> k
[07:48] <doppelganger_> you around aegean?
[07:48] <ColonelKernel> he is :D
[07:48] <doppelganger_> sent you one more private message
[07:48] <basheer> can someone please help me?
[07:48] <doppelganger_> lo
[07:48] <doppelganger_> lol
[07:48] <aegeanlinux> doppelganger_: Of corse
[07:49] <aegeanlinux> doppelganger_: Soz, getting Xorg to recompile
[07:49] <abattoir> basheer: please ask your question
[07:49] <aegeanlinux> basheer: whats up?
[07:49] <basheer> I am trying to install the kubuntu version of automatix
[07:49] <blake_> I still cant find that setting to make my whole window transparent :/
[07:49] <blake_> I'm looking in win decorations
[07:49] <blake_> for crystal
[07:49] <basheer> I cant get it going
[07:49] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: any luck on that ndiswrapper name?
[07:49] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: just a sec
[07:51] <abattoir> !info ndiswrapper-utils
[07:51] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.8-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 136 kB
[07:51] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: ^^^^^
[07:51] <ColonelKernel> so I do /sudo aptget ndiswrapper-utils?
[07:51] <abattoir> 'sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils'
[07:51] <ColonelKernel> ah
[07:51] <aegeanlinux> basheer: are you trying to compile it?
[07:51] <ColonelKernel> thanks :D
[07:51] <basheer> I put deb http://www.beerorkid.com/automatix/apt kubuntu main in my sources.list and nothing
[07:52] <ColonelKernel> thank you so much abattoir. i'll go try
[07:52] <abattoir> blake_: there is a separate 'Translucency' section
[07:52] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: ok
[07:52] <aegeanlinux> basheer: try to compile it your self
[07:52] <flaccid> colonelkernel lol
[07:52] <blake_> ah, where is it located?
[07:52] <basheer> how so?
[07:52] <aegeanlinux> goto the site
[07:53] <abattoir> blake: [10:56:43]  <abattoir> blake_: click on the icon in the windeco (top left corner) ->Configure Window behaviour-> Translucency
[07:53] <aegeanlinux> download the source
[07:53] <basheer> I tried and it looks strange
[07:53] <aegeanlinux> tar -xvf it
[07:53] <aegeanlinux> can't help with looks
[07:53] <basheer> lol
[07:53] <aegeanlinux> I dont have that application you want
[07:53] <aegeanlinux> soz
[07:53] <aegeanlinux> I could get it if you want and help you out
[07:53] <aegeanlinux> its no hassle
[07:54] <abattoir> basheer: have you updated your sources?
[07:54] <basheer> please
[07:54] <basheer> yes
[07:54] <abattoir> 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[07:54] <basheer> yes
[07:54] <abattoir> and still you cant find the deb?
[07:54] <blake_> thanks abattoir, i foundit :)
[07:55] <abattoir> blake_: your welcome :)
[07:55] <basheer> nope
[07:55] <abattoir> *you're
[07:55] <Cntryboy> I need some help with compiling this source of f4l flash
[07:55] <basheer> Failed to fetch http://www.beerorkid.com/automatix/apt/dists/kubuntu/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[07:56] <basheer> that is what I get on sudo apt-get update
[07:57] <Cntryboy> anyone care to lend a hand
[07:57] <abattoir> basheer: either what you put in the sources.list file has a mistake... or there is something wrong w/ their archives
[07:57] <abattoir> Cntryboy: what is the problem exactly?
[07:57] <abattoir> basheer: dapper right?
[07:57] <basheer> yes
[07:58] <abattoir> and i386?
[07:58] <basheer> amd64
[07:58] <Cntryboy> abattoir: earlier when I was trying to get this working, I typed make then got errors needed more files, finally I got all the files needed and when I do make I get a hugeeee list of errors now.. Do I need to sudio distclean and try over?
[07:58] <abattoir> Cntryboy: during ./configure or during make?
[07:59] <abattoir> basheer: you can manually d/l the deb, this one time and install it... ok?
[07:59] <basheer> ok
[07:59] <basheer> how?
[07:59] <abattoir> http://www.beerorkid.com/automatix/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/automatix-_6.2-12-6.06dapper1_amd64.deb
[07:59] <abattoir> basheer: save it somewhere, eg. your home dir
[08:00] <basheer> The file http://www.beerorkid.com/automatix/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/automatix-_6.2-12-6.06dapper1_amd64.deb is a binary, saving it will result in a corrupt file.
[08:00] <abattoir> basheer: just click on it
[08:00] <abattoir> dont open w/ Kate
[08:00] <Cntryboy> ./configure does nothing
[08:00] <Cntryboy> abattoir: durning make
[08:01] <abattoir> Cntryboy: there is not ./configure step in the installation procedure?(according to the readme/install file)?
[08:01] <basheer> run it as a shell?
[08:01] <Cntryboy> abattoir: honestly I don't see a readme file
[08:02] <Cntryboy> abattoir: I was told all I needed to do was make, then sudo make install
[08:02] <Cntryboy> and that was it
[08:02] <abattoir> basheer: after saving it, do 'sudo dpkg -i automatix-_6.2-12-6.06dapper1_amd64.deb'
[08:02] <abattoir> Cntryboy: hmmm... what exactly is the error during make?
[08:02] <Cntryboy> could I try to sudo distclean so it will get rid of all the files, and try again?
[08:03] <Cntryboy> mm it was this
[08:03] <blake_> abattoir, how do I change that setting to allow the transparency effect to work?
[08:03] <unix_infidel> Cntryboy: what app?
[08:03] <blake_> i changed it but it isnt working
[08:03] <abattoir> Cntryboy: sudo shouldnt be necessary, just make clean would do i guess
[08:04] <abattoir> blake_: try restarting KDE/X, see if you get an error about enabling 'Composite' when you start KDE
[08:04] <Cntryboy> http://pastebin.ca/86539
[08:04] <basheer> can I make a gui for it?
[08:04] <Desh> WIll fglrx work if I am using 32bit Kubuntu with an AMD64?
[08:04] <blake_> Ok, brb
[08:04] <unix_infidel> Desh: sure...
[08:04] <abattoir> basheer: you want to 'make' a GUI?
[08:04] <Cntryboy> abattoir: that's the huge list thats totally differ, b4 I got all files needed
[08:05] <Desh> What is the terminal command to extract a tar.gz?
[08:05] <crimsun> tar xf foo.tar.gz
[08:05] <basheer> sure why not?
[08:05] <Cntryboy> tar zxvf (file)
[08:05] <Desh> Thanks.
[08:05] <abattoir> basheer: for what exactly?
[08:05] <basheer> cuz I am silly
[08:05] <vigilante> Hey, why can the Kmenu not be edited?  Nothing new I enter in manually stays
[08:06] <abattoir> basheer: no, for what application do you want to 'make' a gui?
[08:06] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: do you have zlib-devel
[08:06] <basheer> my games and stuff
[08:06] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: how can I find out
[08:06] <aegeanlinux> go into your package manager
[08:06] <aegeanlinux> add/remove programs
[08:07] <aegeanlinux> whatever kubuntu calls it
[08:07] <aegeanlinux> where you add deb files
[08:07] <Cntryboy> adept
[08:07] <Cntryboy> ok
[08:07] <Cntryboy> i used to know the search command in term but forgot
[08:07] <abattoir> basheer: i guess i dont understand you properly, however if you want to contribute to Kubuntu development, you can mail the Mailing-list or join #kubuntu-devel
[08:07] <aegeanlinux> thats the one
[08:07] <aegeanlinux> ctrl+f ???
[08:07] <Cntryboy> so why do you think I need this file
[08:08] <aegeanlinux> because it saus your missing zlib.h
[08:08] <basheer> thank you abattoir
[08:08] <abattoir> basheer: no problem
[08:08] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: so is there a zlib-devel?
[08:08] <basheer> and all who intended to help
[08:08] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: not that I c
[08:08] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: why do u think I need it though
[08:08] <aegeanlinux> what about zlib
[08:08] <dive-o> thanks everybody, I'm now quite happy with kubuntu :)
[08:09] <dive-o> just don't tell all my BSD nerd friends I said that
[08:09] <abattoir> dive-o: nice to hear :)
[08:09] <Cntryboy> I have 9 differ files with zlib in it
[08:09] <Cntryboy> closes to zlib is zlibc
[08:09] <aegeanlinux> pastebin line 158
[08:09] <aegeanlinux> FSMovie.cpp:26:18: error: zlib.h: No such file or directory
[08:09] <aegeanlinux> means your missing a -devel package that has zlib.h in it
[08:09] <Cntryboy> so do I need zlib.h?
[08:09] <aegeanlinux> yes
[08:10] <Cntryboy> sudo apt-get install zlib.h?
[08:10] <aegeanlinux>  /usr/include/zlib.h to be exact
[08:10] <aegeanlinux> i dont know the command you need
[08:10] <abattoir> Cntryboy: zlib1g-dev ?
[08:10] <aegeanlinux> could be
[08:10] <Cntryboy> he said zlib.h
[08:10] <aegeanlinux> I can't say for sure
[08:10] <Cntryboy> Hell I dunno
[08:10] <aegeanlinux> the package that has that file
[08:10] <Cntryboy> lol
[08:10] <aegeanlinux> I don't know I dont use kubuntu / ubuntu
[08:11] <abattoir> zlib.h is a file, which could be in the -dev package
[08:11] <denis_> hey - does anyone know how to get an onboard sound card in a compaq despro to work in kubuntu??
[08:11] <denis_> i cant get the sound to work and i'm a total newb to linux
[08:11] <Cntryboy> I have zlib1g and zlib1g-dev
[08:11] <Cntryboy> but no H's
[08:11] <aegeanlinux> what about zlib-dev
[08:11] <aegeanlinux> or zlib
[08:11] <abattoir> Cntryboy: are they installed?
[08:11] <Cntryboy> only zlib files installed are
[08:12] <Cntryboy> zlib1g, and zlib1g-dev
[08:12] <abattoir> denis_: stupid question maybe, but are you sure its not muted?
[08:12] <denis_> yeah dude
[08:12] <denis_> very sure.
[08:12] <aegeanlinux> OK, does anyone know how to search files that are in ubuntu's repo
[08:12] <aegeanlinux> on the net
[08:12] <denis_> its not detecting that there IS a sound card i dont think.
[08:12] <abattoir> aegeanlinux: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:13] <aegeanlinux> ty
[08:13] <Cntryboy> abattoir: so which one do I need to install
[08:13] <Cntryboy> abattoir: but I have no h's libs listed though
[08:13] <abattoir> try zlib1g-dev
[08:13] <aegeanlinux> please wait Cntryboy
[08:13] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: okay
[08:13] <aegeanlinux> you need libdevel/zlib1g-dev
[08:13] <aegeanlinux> zlib1g-dev
[08:14] <aegeanlinux> then try to make again
[08:14] <Cntryboy> okay I have zlib1g-dev
[08:14] <Cntryboy> I don't have libdevel
[08:14] <vigilante> Does anyone else have problems editing the Kmenu?  (new custom entries won't stay for me)
[08:14] <Cntryboy> sudo apt-get install libdevel?
[08:14] <aegeanlinux> libdevel is the repo its in
[08:14] <aegeanlinux> no
[08:14] <abattoir> aegeanlinux: it in the libdevel section
[08:14] <aegeanlinux> just zlibg1
[08:15] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: what abattoir
[08:15] <aegeanlinux> said
[08:15] <aegeanlinux> zlib1g-dev
[08:15] <aegeanlinux> just apt-get that
[08:16] <aegeanlinux> and try to make again
[08:16] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: I have that file install
[08:16] <Cntryboy> installed
[08:16] <abattoir> Cntryboy: isnt this the old output?
[08:16] <Cntryboy> I searched for libdevel and have 7 but none installed
[08:16] <Cntryboy> abattoir?
[08:17] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: also get qt-dev
[08:17] <abattoir> [11:34:13]  <Cntryboy> abattoir: that's the huge list thats totally differ, b4 I got all files needed
[08:17] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: or also get qt-devel
[08:17] <Cntryboy> so just get qt-dev right
[08:17] <Cntryboy> let me try that
[08:17] <aegeanlinux> libqt3-headers
[08:17] <aegeanlinux> libqt3-headers
[08:17] <aegeanlinux> libqt3-headers
[08:17] <Cntryboy> okay so just get that one?
[08:18] <denis_> K GUYS quick question, what does the "gedit" command do?
[08:18] <Cntryboy> you name so many and then say another
[08:18] <aegeanlinux> yes, try that too
[08:18] <Cntryboy> which one do I need
[08:18] <aegeanlinux> libqt3-headers and zlib1g-dev
[08:18] <abattoir> denis_: it opens up a GTK text editor(in Ubuntu), similar to kate in Kubuntu
[08:18] <Cntryboy> I told you I have zlib1g-dev installed
[08:19] <denis_> ok
[08:19] <denis_> now
[08:19] <denis_> now i have kubuntu not ubuntu
[08:19] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: I also have libqt3-headers installed
[08:19] <abattoir> so substitute it w/ kate
[08:19] <denis_> what would i type as a command in kubuntu instead of "gedit"?
[08:19] <Cntryboy> so do you want me to get qt-dev or no
[08:19] <abattoir> denis_: kate
[08:19] <aegeanlinux> is it in apt?
[08:20] <aegeanlinux> then yes, get it if you can
[08:20] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: both are listed as installed in adept
[08:20] <Cntryboy> js
[08:20] <aegeanlinux> get it then
[08:20] <Cntryboy> qt-dev gives me error E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:20] <aegeanlinux> its just that I dont have kubuntu, so I can't say for sure what packages are what
[08:20] <Cntryboy> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:21] <aegeanlinux> are you doing it with apt-get?
[08:21] <Cntryboy> yes
[08:21] <aegeanlinux> if so is adept open
[08:21] <chavo> Cntryboy, libqt3-mt-dev is the qt-development package
[08:21] <Cntryboy> ahh ok let me try now
[08:21] <aegeanlinux> if it is, close it, and try again
[08:21] <aegeanlinux> thanks chavo for that info
[08:22] <ColonelKernel> abattoir are you available?
[08:22] <Cntryboy> do what chavo said?
[08:22] <Cntryboy> qt-dev isn't in repos
[08:22] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: yes
[08:22] <aegeanlinux> yes
[08:22] <vigilante> Has anyone here had success adding new entries manually to the Kmenu?
[08:22] <aegeanlinux> what chavo said
[08:22] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: I tried those commands in terminal, no luck. Also, KNetworkManager was not installed
[08:22] <pulaski> hello
[08:23] <Cntryboy> I have 2.1KB dialup seems it may take awhile
[08:23] <Cntryboy> I hope I need this file
[08:23] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: what exactly happened? any error messages?
[08:23] <ColonelKernel> umm
[08:23] <ColonelKernel> at first I got SET Failed on Device rausb0
[08:23] <aegeanlinux> hows the download going?
[08:23] <ColonelKernel> then i altered parameters to include channel 04
[08:24] <ColonelKernel> then no error message, but not connected
[08:24] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: how's the download
[08:24] <chavo> vigilante, works fine here I have heavily modified my menu
[08:24] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: was the name of the network shown in iwconfig?
[08:25] <pulaski> I'm thinking about replacing my ubuntu sarge with kubuntu becaues I prefer kde to gnome.  I'm also an spiring lamp developer.  Does kubuntu come with mysql 5 and php 5 as standard packages?
[08:25] <Cntryboy> going slow
[08:25] <ColonelKernel> yes
[08:25] <ColonelKernel> and the frequency
[08:25] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: how big is it?
[08:25] <Cntryboy> can't believe just to compile something I need so many packages, homesite for program never listed any of this
[08:25] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: you tried 'sudo ifup rausb0' ?
[08:25] <chavo> pulaski, not installed by default, but just an apt-get away
[08:25] <ColonelKernel> y
[08:25] <Cntryboy> 6mb
[08:25] <ColonelKernel> yes
[08:25] <pulaski> good thank you
[08:25] <ColonelKernel> and it gave error unknown interface rausb0
[08:25] <aegeanlinux> so wasn't it is in kubuntu's repository
[08:26] <ColonelKernel> even though rausb0 is listed when I type iwconfig
[08:26] <pulaski> chavo
[08:26] <aegeanlinux> dang
[08:26] <Cntryboy> I wish kubuntu had an extra disc, with all files needed
[08:26] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: hmmm ok....
[08:26] <pulaski> thanks again
[08:26] <vigilante> chavo: what version of kde are you running?  how did you edit the kmenu?
[08:26] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: you'd need to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[08:26] <abattoir> write this down....
[08:26] <ColonelKernel> ok
[08:26] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: yes i said im downloading it
[08:26] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: You can, its called the kubuntu **DVD**
[08:26] <chavo> vigilante, 3.5.3 and I used kmenuedit
[08:26] <Cntryboy> if u was talking to me
[08:26] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: one sec
[08:26] <ColonelKernel> ready
[08:27] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: i never saw it on dl site
[08:27] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: never mind
[08:27] <aegeanlinux> you have to fish for it Cntryboy
[08:27] <aegeanlinux> ill get the link
[08:27] <Cntryboy> dont worry about it
[08:27] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/kubuntu/6.06/release/
[08:28] <Cntryboy> i have 2.1KB dialup
[08:28] <Cntryboy> have to wait until I go to dad/moms
[08:28] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: /etc/network/interfaces
[08:28] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: you should edit as root, so 'sudo kate'
[08:28] <aegeanlinux> i386 version is 3.6GB
[08:28] <ColonelKernel> kate?
[08:28] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: does it have the newest version of kde on it?
[08:28] <vigilante> chavo: Im using 3.5.2, whatever is latest for k6.06... maybe that is the problem, how did you udate to 3.5.3?
[08:28] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: yes, that's the text editor, like 'notepad' but way more powerful
[08:28] <aegeanlinux> I really don't know
[08:28] <ColonelKernel> i see
[08:28] <ColonelKernel> then what do I change?
[08:28] <aegeanlinux> did 6.06 CD come with 3.5.3?
[08:29] <Kwukki> vigilante : wait...
[08:29] <Cntryboy> colonelkernel: kate is like gedit its a txt editor
[08:29] <aegeanlinux> Cause if it didn't nether does KDE
[08:29] <ColonelKernel> ah hah
[08:29] <chavo> vigilante, I never had a problem with the menu editor in KDE even in older versions
[08:29] <aegeanlinux> ** Cause if it didn't nether does DVD
[08:29] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: add 'auto rausb0' in one line
[08:29] <ColonelKernel> so I just do sudo kate /etc/network/interfaces
[08:29] <ColonelKernel> and add that line
[08:29] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux what command and ill tell u what I have
[08:29] <Kwukki> to update to 3.5.3 add this to your sources.list : "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main"
[08:29] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: in the next add 'iface rausb0 inet dhcp'
[08:29] <aegeanlinux> click K --> Run --> kcontrol (type it in)
[08:29] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: w/o the quotes ofcourse
[08:30] <ColonelKernel> of course
[08:30] <aegeanlinux> it says KDE Version :
[08:30] <ColonelKernel> that all?
[08:30] <aegeanlinux> and it will say something like 3.5.2
[08:30] <aegeanlinux> or 3.5.3 (latest)
[08:30] <Cntryboy> kwukki: how big is it
[08:30] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: yes.. save the file, try restarting... and then the commands i told you earlier
[08:30] <vigilante> chavo: yeah, kubuntu is the first distro that had this problem with kde for me
[08:30] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: alrighty. and about KnetworkManager?
[08:31] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: dont warry about it
[08:31] <aegeanlinux> it is mostly bug fixes
[08:31] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: once you open the file, there'd be an example... so should be easy to follow
[08:31] <vigilante> Kwukki: any idea why my kmenu won't edit?
[08:31] <ColonelKernel> good :D
[08:31] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: i'd expect that to work too
[08:31] <Cntryboy> I have 3.5.2
[08:31] <Kwukki> vigilante : No
[08:31] <ColonelKernel> ahh but you see, it wasn't installed
[08:31] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: there'd be an entry for 'lo'
[08:31] <ColonelKernel> when I looked before...
[08:31] <ColonelKernel> 'lo'?
[08:31] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: Thats good enough
[08:31] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: just follow the syntax, but replace 'loopback' w/ 'dhcp'
[08:31] <vigilante> Cntryboy: are you able to edit your kmenu to add new entries manually?
[08:32] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: I wouldn't wary about updating
[08:32] <ColonelKernel> hmmkay.
[08:32] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: Not if your on dialup
[08:32] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: yeah, thats the loopback interface, you dont need it, just was giving an eg.
[08:32] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: grr slow dl dude
[08:32] <ColonelKernel> so I don't need KNetworkManager? because that's not installed
[08:32] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: Me can no help
[08:33] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: well, if it is in the CD, you should be able to get it w/ sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager
[08:33] <ColonelKernel> i need to insert the cd though?
[08:33] <abattoir> if it isnt, you'd need a network connection to get it
[08:33] <Cntryboy> afk until I roll this J
[08:33] <ColonelKernel> ah
[08:33] <Cntryboy> lol
[08:33] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: if it is in the cd, yes
[08:33] <Cntryboy> stressed
[08:33] <ColonelKernel> alright.  thank you abattoir, hopefully i'll be back in 10 running Kubuntu :D
[08:33] <abattoir> hopefully :)
[08:34] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: me can no help?
[08:34] <Cntryboy> lost me
[08:34] <Cntryboy> brb
[08:34] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: I can't help that it's a slow download
[08:35] <aegeanlinux> I can't wait for KDE 4
[08:35] <aegeanlinux> It's going to be SOOOOOOOOOOOO good.
[08:36] <basheer> when is it coming out?
[08:36] <Cntryboy> I can't wait to be a linux gawd
[08:36] <abattoir> basheer: Q1 next year
[08:36] <Cntryboy> It's going to be SOOOOOOOOOOOO good.
[08:36] <Cntryboy> lol
[08:36] <Cntryboy> brb J
[08:36] <basheer> Q1?
[08:37] <abattoir> yeah, first quarter, Jan-Mar anytime
[08:37] <basheer> oh ok
[08:37] <vigilante> Arrgh, for some reason kubuntu is using 100% cpu all of a sudden, I open ksysguard and nothing is using more than 10%, how do I find the crazy process?
[08:37] <aegeanlinux> goto konsole
[08:37] <aegeanlinux> type 'top'
[08:37] <aegeanlinux> (without '''s )
[08:38] <ShuT-> wtf
[08:38] <ShuT-> err
[08:38] <ShuT-> i mean hi
[08:38] <aegeanlinux> Hi ShuT-
[08:39] <basheer> is the smp kernel for kubuntu 64 broken?
[08:39] <basheer> or do you not need it?
[08:39] <vigilante> actually, it looks like kfmclient, there are about 10 instances of it running, and I can't kill them all, they just keep respawning
[08:39] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: 48% lol
[08:40] <vigilante> I think maybe konversation is spawning them, Im gonna try to close every kde program and restart kde
[08:40] <juke_> i need help. i have acer aspire 3004 laptop. where i can get video card drivers?? :P
[08:41] <abattoir> juke_: what video card?
[08:41] <abattoir> juke_: is it a turion by any chance?
[08:41] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: Thats the shit
[08:41] <aegeanlinux> hi ajmitch
[08:42] <Cntryboy> lol
[08:42] <Cntryboy> sorry im blanking out
[08:42] <Cntryboy> day dreaming lol
[08:42] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: s'all good
[08:42] <juke_> abattoir: SiS M760GX
[08:43] <abattoir> juke_: the driver is supported natively by the kernel
[08:43] <juke_> how i can get it work :P
[08:43] <juke_> it doesnt work now :)
[08:43] <abattoir> juke_: the relevant xorg package must have been installed by default..
[08:43] <abattoir> juke_: how do you know it doesnt work?
[08:44] <juke_> i have tried 3d screen saver.. ?? :P
[08:44] <juke_> euphoria etc
[08:44] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: ever seen why can't I be you on mtv
[08:44] <Cntryboy> saw rather
[08:44] <aegeanlinux> no
[08:44] <juke_> where i can get that xorg package?
[08:44] <aegeanlinux> you want to be me?
[08:44] <abattoir> juke_: i dont know if they are supposed to work w/ integrated chips :P anyways...
[08:45] <abattoir> juke_: check if you have xserver-xorg-drivers-sis installed
[08:45] <juke_> oh..really.. that explain eveything :P
[08:45] <abattoir> *driver-sis
[08:45] <juke_> apt-get?
[08:46] <abattoir> juke_: adept
[08:46] <juke_> ok..wait a minute :P
[08:48] <juke_> it doesn't find any xserver-xorg-drivers-sis packages :P
[08:48] <abattoir> juke_: i corrected myself to *driver-sis
[08:49] <juke_> ok
[08:49] <juke_> i am stupido :P
[08:49] <abattoir> just type sis, and look at the end of the list
[08:49] <juke_> it is installed :P
[08:50] <abattoir> juke_: ok, then open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:50] <juke_> sis display driver.. etc..
[08:50] <abattoir> juke_: see if the 'sis' driver is being loaded
[08:50] <juke_> ok
[08:50] <juke_> wait a minute
[08:50] <abattoir> if it is, then you are using the driver
[08:51] <kyle_> hey, I have an MP3 player. but lnux won't detect it? how come?
[08:51] <juke_> where is that?? :P
[08:52] <abattoir> juke_: its a file... /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:52] <Cntryboy> kyle_: same boat as you, decided to try to compile
[08:52] <Cntryboy> lol
[08:52] <juke_> it open now by nano :P
[08:52] <abattoir> juke_: check if the sis drivers are loaded
[08:53] <kyle_> Cntryboy: well whta help are you :P it even says on my book it supports linux, but the cd is lost somewhere haha
[08:53] <juke_> where that suppose to be.. ?? :P
[08:53] <Cntryboy> kyle_ : didn't you talk to me last nighta bout compiling some source code
[08:54] <kyle_> Cntryboy: nope, haven't been on irc in some time, :P and i know how to compile source code, thanks :)
[08:54] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: damn.
[08:54] <juke_> abattoir: where the sis line is?? :P
[08:54] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: what happens?
[08:55] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: same basic thing, although the ifup command yielded Device already configured
[08:55] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: the text edit worked out fine thought
[08:56] <abattoir> juke_: in the 'Device' section
[08:56] <Cntryboy> kyle_: don't get offensive lol, just wondering.. same id.
[08:56] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: i have run out of ideas, it should really work by now...
[08:56] <ColonelKernel> abattoir:i know
[08:56] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: have I done anything wrong? i'll review...
[08:57] <juke_> abattoir: generic video card and vesa..
[08:57] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: i did sudo iwconfig rausb0 essid ChellGate channel 04 key ***************
[08:57] <ColonelKernel> but no connection
[08:57] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: you obviously entered the key by text right ;) ?
[08:57] <ColonelKernel> lol
[08:57] <kyle_> Cntryboy: haha i'm not getting offencive, i'm just kidding. for some reason it works now? I installed MpMan, rebooted, still didn't work then i took it out and ut it back in and it detected it?
[08:58] <ColonelKernel> what do you mean?
[08:58] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: nah, stupid question... you entered 1234 or **** ?
[08:58] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: you must have done the former
[08:58] <juke_> abattoir: it says that device is generic video card and driver is vesa :P
[08:58] <ColonelKernel> abattoir:lol actually 7c2355...
[08:58] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: ok ok, my mistake
[08:58] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: hehehe
[08:59] <juke_> abattoir??
[08:59] <Cntryboy> kyle_:cool beans
[08:59] <abattoir> juke_: try changing the driver to 'sis' or 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:00] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: have you tried other networks?
[09:00] <ColonelKernel> i can't. I'm connecting to my home LAN. don't know any other keys :(
[09:00] <juke_> if i change it sis should i restart x?
[09:00] <ColonelKernel> any settings I should change on the host though?
[09:01] <abattoir> juke_: yes
[09:01] <juke_> ok..
[09:01] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: i'm not familiar w/ router config. but if it is WEP, and your card is recognised, i'd expect it to work by now
[09:02] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: so would I.  Honestly, this is the 6th distro i've tried, and the furthest i've gotten... Ubuntu no luck, rest didn't even boot
[09:02] <juke_> abattoir: how do i know does it work?? :P
[09:02] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: i don't wanna stay with Window$
[09:03] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: try making the network an open one...
[09:03] <juke_> abattoir?
[09:03] <abattoir> juke_: try the screensavers you mentioned :P
[09:03] <juke_> ok
[09:03] <vigilante> ColonelKernel: have you tried PCLinuxOS, or Mandriva One?
[09:03] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: ok i'll try that, but won't last, as in an area where security is needed
[09:03] <vigilante> or Mepis
[09:04] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: yes, i just meant it as a temporary test
[09:04] <ColonelKernel> alright
[09:04] <ColonelKernel> i'll be back...
[09:04] <ColonelKernel> you'll be here?
[09:04] <abattoir> hopefully, its midday, and i havent slept the whole night ;)
[09:04] <ColonelKernel> i'll hurry :D
[09:04] <abattoir> i cant sleep anymore
[09:05] <juke_> abattoir: euphoria doesn't work but the others works fine.. i try to install neverball :P
[09:06] <abattoir> juke_: ok :)
[09:07] <juke_> abattoir: no it doesn't work :(
[09:08] <juke_> i change it sis.. should i test the dpkg.... command??
[09:08] <abattoir> juke_: well, i too have the same card... tbh, it is sh*t
[09:08] <abattoir> juke_: yes, you can :)
[09:09] <patrick_36p> hey
[09:09] <patrick_36p> anyone here got half-life running under dapper?
[09:10] <juke_> abattoir: enter the amount of memory?????
[09:10] <juke_> 128M
[09:10] <abattoir> juke_: it asks you?
[09:10] <juke_> abattoir: in kb
[09:10] <juke_> yes
[09:11] <abattoir> oh, ok
[09:11] <juke_> enter the amount of memory to be used by your video card :P
[09:11] <juke_> etc
[09:11] <abattoir> juke_: i guess that'd depend on your bios settings too
[09:12] <juke_> ??
[09:12] <juke_> how that can be possible?
[09:12] <abattoir> this card uses 'shared' memory, from the ram, so you can specify how much it uses in the bios
[09:13] <juke_> how much should i type now.. i check the bios after this :P
[09:13] <abattoir> juke_: enter 128MB
[09:13] <juke_> ok
[09:13] <wolfmanz> Is it hard to get wine working under Kubuntu?
[09:13] <juke_> it says in kb?
[09:14] <juke_> should i type 128 000
[09:14] <abattoir> wolfmanz: nope...
[09:14] <abattoir> juke_: yes, pls. try
[09:14] <abattoir> wolfmanz: install the 'wine' package
[09:14] <abattoir> !info wine
[09:14] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[09:15] <abattoir> wolfmanz: check if you have universe repository enabled first, though
[09:15] <wolfmanz> how do i get that i tried looking for wine under Adept and nothing come up
[09:15] <wolfmanz> lol okm
[09:15] <abattoir> !universe
[09:15] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:15] <juke_> abattoir it says: use kernel framebuffer device interface???
[09:15] <abattoir> wolfmanz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:16] <abattoir> juke_: put yes :P
[09:16] <juke_> please select your keyboard layput?? fin (finland)
[09:16] <juke_> ?
[09:17] <gready> hello I need help installing a remote printer please
[09:17] <juke_> default is us
[09:17] <abattoir> juke_: if its available, please choose that
[09:18] <juke_> abattoir: pleae select your keyboard variant???
[09:18] <abattoir> juke_: ugh, what options are available..
[09:18] <Cntryboy> does anyone know how to start f4l flash proggy ?
[09:19] <abattoir> i'm sure you'd be able to choose one relevant
[09:19] <juke_> nothing.. it is text line.. no options?? :P
[09:19] <corin> abattoir: this is colonel kernel
[09:19] <abattoir> corin: works?
[09:19] <corin> abattoir: with no enctyption
[09:19] <corin> yes
[09:19] <corin> encryption*
[09:19] <corin> so.  why would that be ?
[09:19] <abattoir> juke_: then just press enter, enter nothing
[09:20] <gready> hello I need help installing a remote printer please if you can help open a private chat
[09:20] <juke_> ok
[09:20] <abattoir> corin: i guess you had WPA, there are some problems w/ that in Kubuntu
[09:20] <corin> hmm.
[09:20] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[09:20] <corin> abattoir: I switched it to WEP but that didn't work either.
[09:20] <abattoir> corin: you can try messing around w/ the router to see which other type works
[09:20] <corin> abattoir: any idea why that would be?
[09:20] <abattoir> since its your own router :P
[09:21] <juke_> abattoir: mouse.. is it ImPS/2 or explorerPS/2??
[09:21] <abattoir> corin:  as i said some network types dont work very well
[09:21] <corin> abattoir: ya think I was just typing the key wrong? WEP is fairly standard I thought
[09:21] <gready> hello I need help installing a remote printer please
[09:21] <abattoir> juke_: you should know :)
[09:21] <abattoir> corin: yes, that's possible, i thought you'd have thought of that though :)
[09:22] <corin> abattoir: i did, but I checked it 5 times...
[09:22] <corin> abattoir: now that i'm connected, why doesn't apt-get install knetworkmanager work?
[09:22] <corin> still can't ifnd package
[09:22] <abattoir> !info knetworkmanager
[09:22] <gready> is it possible to enable the roottttttt account so I can login to kde as root
[09:22] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.1~svn-r533312-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 263 kB, installed size 1412 kB
[09:23] <corin> how do I install it though?
[09:23] <abattoir> corin: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:23] <corin> abattoir: ah. thanks...
[09:23] <abattoir> even though it is in main, it is useful enabling the other repos
[09:23] <corin> hmmkay
[09:23] <abattoir> you'd get a fair idea of what to do
[09:24] <gready> is it possible to enable the root account so I can login to kde as root
[09:24] <aegeanlinux> yes
[09:24] <corin> ok.
[09:24] <Cntryboy> does anyone know how to start f4l flash proggy ?
[09:24] <gready> how
[09:24] <aegeanlinux> you hace to edit the kdm configuration
[09:24] <aegeanlinux> *have
[09:24] <abattoir> corin: if you want, you can remove the cd rom source, and add a web-based 'main' source
[09:24] <corin> ahh that would be nice
[09:24] <corin> how?
[09:24] <abattoir> corin: as i said, just follow the link i gave :)
[09:24] <abattoir> !repos
[09:24] <corin> abattoir :D.
[09:24] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:24] <gready> how
[09:25] <aegeanlinux> click K --> run --> kcontrol
[09:25] <aegeanlinux> then search for KDM
[09:25] <aegeanlinux> click kdm in keywords
[09:25] <aegeanlinux> then click login manager
[09:25] <aegeanlinux> goto users
[09:25] <aegeanlinux> press administrator mode
[09:25] <aegeanlinux> type root password
[09:26] <aegeanlinux> click users again
[09:26] <aegeanlinux> and wala
[09:26] <aegeanlinux> change below to say -
[09:26] <aegeanlinux> * 0
[09:28] <gready> thank you I try now
[09:28] <corin> abattoir: thanks a lot man.  Soon I'll speak to you in Francais... Just a guess there :D
[09:28] <wolfmanz> OK i got the universe ones enabled and all that yet when i type wine into adept i'm not getting anything found
[09:29] <abattoir> corin: lol, the only thing french about me is the nick...
[09:29] <abattoir> if you want to speak french...
[09:29] <abattoir> !fr
[09:29] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:29] <abattoir> =P
[09:29] <corin> abattoir: LOL
[09:29] <corin> abattoir: thought ur english was suspiciously good
[09:29] <corin> !fr
[09:29] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:29] <corin> hmmm
[09:30] <aegeanlinux> SELECT Girls FROM World ORDER BY Cup_Size AND Age WHERE Age > 18 AND Age < 30
[09:30] <ShuT-> lol aegeanlinux
[09:30] <corin> abattoir: i'm not having luck using adept.  I can't seem to enable the universe/multiverse thingy
[09:30] <gready> still can't login as root
[09:31] <aegeanlinux> my CPU's at 100%
[09:31] <abattoir> corin: have you opened it?
[09:31] <corin> yessur
[09:31] <aegeanlinux> to many names across my konsole ...
[09:31] <corin> yessir*
[09:31] <abattoir> corin: gone to manage repositories?
[09:31] <corin> yep
[09:31] <corin> enabled 2 of them
[09:31] <corin> deb and deb scr
[09:31] <corin> src*
[09:32] <gready> when I try it says 'root logins not allowed'
[09:32] <abattoir> ok, just click in the components section of the 'deb' line
[09:32] <wolfmanz> ok never mind i found out what was wrong
[09:32] <corin> yes
[09:32] <juke_> abattoir: it won't work.. i did everthing like you said.. resolution is correct now (1280x800)..
[09:32] <abattoir> corin: double click sorry
[09:33] <abattoir> juke_: as i said, it is not a great graphics card... i wouldnt expect hi-fi stuff to work on it
[09:33] <abattoir> corin: you get an editable text field?
[09:33] <corin> yes
[09:33] <corin> i typed
[09:33] <abattoir> corin: main should be in it already
[09:33] <corin> universe and multiverse
[09:33] <corin> yes main was there, i deleted it
[09:33] <corin> bad?
[09:33] <abattoir> corin: make sure the line has 'main restricted universe multiverse'
[09:33] <corin> ok
[09:34] <corin> done
[09:34] <abattoir> corin: click Apply->Close and Fetch updates(on top)
[09:34] <corin> aha
[09:34] <corin> it worked
[09:35] <abattoir> corin: :)
[09:35] <corin> abattoir: wow.  thanks a lot.  I gotta go to sleep, but man, I owe you one
[09:35] <abattoir> corin: lol, bye :)
[09:35] <corin> cya thanks :D
[09:36] <juke_> abattoir: how did you get it work?? :P
[09:36] <gready> how do I enable root logins?
[09:37] <abattoir> juke_: get what to work?
[09:37] <abattoir> juke_: i guess the driver works for you as well... just dont expect it to rival stuff done by nvidia or ati cards, that's all :)
[09:37] <juke_> did you said that you have same video card etc??
[09:37] <abattoir> yes, i do
[09:38] <juke_> i understant it.. but i want to play some 3d games :P
[09:38] <abattoir> juke_: i honestly suspect if it is possible...
[09:39] <juke_> max video memory in bios was 64M ;O
[09:39] <juke_> :P
[09:39] <abattoir> juke_: well, you can change it... to 128
[09:39] <abattoir> if you have 512 or more MBs of ram
[09:39] <juke_> i type it 64M and i reconfigured xserver-xorg..
[09:39] <juke_> ok
[09:39] <abattoir> i have to go now...
[09:40] <wolfmanz> Ok nesxt question i installed wine and now cant find it where did adept put wine?
[09:40] <abattoir> juke_: i think you have got the driver though
[09:40] <juke_> tanx anyway..
[09:40] <abattoir> wolfmanz: try executing it through the commandline... it will set itself first, and iirc, ask you some questions
[09:41] <abattoir> !wine
[09:41] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:41] <aegeanlinux> !crossover office
[09:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about crossover office - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:41] <abattoir> wolfmanz: ^^^^ should be helpful... i have to go now... bye
[09:42] <gready> how do I enable root logins?
[09:44] <Lynoure> gready: by setting a password to root, if you must. but you can get a root console through sudo already.
[09:44] <TheMoebius> hey can somebody help me with figuring out why my kdm won't start? I've posted in the forums and no one has answered and googled, but can't find anything about this...
[09:46] <aegeanlinux> brb
[09:46] <aegeanlinux> greedy hold on 30 mins please
[09:46] <aegeanlinux> I know how
[09:47] <gready> It still says 'root logins are not allowed
[09:47] <gready> ok I be here waiting
[09:51] <ColonelKernel> abattoir?
[09:51] <ColonelKernel> anybody know why I don't have any sound?
[09:52] <ColonelKernel> help!
[09:53] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: you here man? need help!
[09:57] <ColonelKernel> sumtn?
[09:57] <flaccid> my new kubuntu server install is freezing up going real slow again. wtf could be the problem. cpu usage is vlow
[09:57] <flaccid> it must be hardware
[09:57] <flaccid> hmm maybe its cooling
[09:57] <ColonelKernel> anybody???
[09:58] <ColonelKernel> i have no sound *whimper*
[09:58] <flaccid> is there any way to get cpu temp
[09:58] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: need more details.
[09:58] <ColonelKernel> i simply have absolutely no sound
[09:58] <ColonelKernel> hey sumtn
[09:58] <Sumtn> hey
[09:58] <ColonelKernel> crimsun: can you help?
[09:58] <gready> what sound card do you have
[09:59] <ColonelKernel> i believe it's called.... Synaptic maybe?
[09:59] <ColonelKernel> where do I check
[09:59] <crimsun> how old is the computer?
[09:59] <ColonelKernel> almost shining
[09:59] <crimsun> lspci -v |grep -i audio
[09:59] <ColonelKernel> 3ghz pentium4 1gb ram
[09:59] <flaccid> frig cpu fan is not going!!!!!!!!!
[09:59] <gready> cooking
[09:59] <ColonelKernel> Silicon Integraged Systems Sound contoller
[10:00] <Sumtn> he doesnt have a usb headset so what would he have to type in? example /dev/dsp1
[10:00] <ColonelKernel> normally isn't sound set up during the installation?
[10:00] <Sumtn> cause he can fix but sence he dont have a usb headset  we dont know what to type in
[10:00] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: pastebin the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc* && amixer''
[10:00] <ColonelKernel> sumtn its not just TS
[10:01] <ColonelKernel> k wait
[10:01] <Sumtn> o it servything
[10:01] <Sumtn> u didnt ell me that
[10:01] <dive-o> what the... how am I swapping when I've got so little stuff running
[10:01] <dive-o> I can tune that with /proc/sys/swappiness or something, right?
[10:02] <ColonelKernel> Password:
[10:02] <ColonelKernel> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[10:02] <ColonelKernel>   Major opcode:  145
[10:02] <ColonelKernel>   Minor opcode:  3
[10:02] <ColonelKernel>   Resource id:  0x0
[10:02] <ColonelKernel> Failed to open device
[10:02] <ColonelKernel> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[10:02] <ColonelKernel>   Major opcode:  145
[10:02] <ColonelKernel>   Minor opcode:  3
[10:02] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: uh, what does that have to do with the command I gave you?
[10:02] <ColonelKernel>   Resource id:  0x0
[10:02] <ColonelKernel> Failed to open device
[10:02] <ColonelKernel> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[10:02] <ColonelKernel> Xlib: No protocol specified
[10:02] <ColonelKernel> kdeinit: Can't connect to the X Server.
[10:02] <fek> moin
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> kdeinit: Might not terminate at end of session.
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> Xlib: No protocol specified
[10:03] <crimsun> please do not flood here.
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> kded: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> kded: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed!
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> ScimInputContextPlugin()
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> whoops
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> thats wrong
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> i don't know how to pastebin evidently
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> nothing :(
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> it said not a directory on all 3 thingys
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> i apologize
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> accident
[10:04] <ColonelKernel> was the command you told me to do 3 commands?
[10:04] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: copy and paste it into a Konsole
[10:04] <crimsun> I gave you command verbatim
[10:04] <ColonelKernel> alright
[10:04] <ColonelKernel> ok
[10:04] <ColonelKernel> how do I pastebin?
[10:04] <dive-o> is it possible to reclaim swap in linux? I've never had to try before
[10:04] <Sumtn> you have to use mouse
[10:04] <ColonelKernel> i got results
[10:04] <Sumtn> not ctrl c
[10:05] <aegeanlinux> www.pastebin.com ???
[10:05] <ColonelKernel> i konw
[10:05] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: the pastebin site is in the topic.
[10:05] <dive-o> but kubuntu's default of swappiness 60 is way too silly for a machine with 2GB ram...
[10:05] <Sumtn> then paste with mouse
[10:06] <ColonelKernel> i went to website, pasted in, not doing anything
[10:07] <ColonelKernel> why can't I just paste normally?
[10:07] <vigilante> Arrgh, when I click on any link in konversation (web link) kde goes crazy, spawns many kfmclients and goes to 100% cpu usage :( , whats up with this?
[10:07] <ColonelKernel> i don't understand
[10:07] <dive-o> nm, swapoff worked
[10:07] <ColonelKernel> drimsun?
[10:07] <ColonelKernel> crimsun*
[10:08] <aegeanlinux> because pasting here is anoying
[10:08] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: because that's a lot of info to flood into this channel, and we don't like it.
[10:08] <ColonelKernel> ok. i submitted to pastebin but nothing is happening
[10:08] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: what URL/
[10:08] <ColonelKernel> what?
[10:09] <ColonelKernel> nothing happened after I pasted into form and clicked send
[10:09] <flaccid> ok i have a huge problem. never seen this before. when kubuntu inits, it turns off the cpu pan!!! please help!
[10:10] <flaccid> this is crazy
[10:10] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: well did you actually paste anything into the text entry box?
[10:10] <ColonelKernel> yes
[10:10] <ColonelKernel> about 2 paragraphs worth
[10:10] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: which site?
[10:10] <ColonelKernel> pastebin.com
[10:11] <ColonelKernel> alternates?
[10:12] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: how do you know sound does not work? tried playing mp3s in amarok?
[10:13] <gready> gready still waiting
[10:13] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: no, but I ran an app,,Teamspeak, and no sound, plus no sound at login
[10:13] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: wouldn't I have heard something so far?
[10:13] <flaccid> maybe this is my issue https://launchpad.net/distros/debian/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/7249
[10:14] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: sec, I'm checknig
[10:14] <crimsun> -ing
[10:14] <ColonelKernel> affirmative
[10:14] <abattoir> no, was just curious, because many people dont realise amarok doesnt play mp3s out of the box.. think it is a sound problem.
[10:14] <ColonelKernel> i knew that much
[10:14] <ColonelKernel> :D
[10:14] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:14] <ColonelKernel> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88777 that maybe?
[10:15] <nrdb> I know this is off topic but I am looking for an undelete program for windows XP that doesn't need installing to work can someone help or tell me a better place to ask.
[10:15] <flaccid> nrdb: easy recovery professional
[10:15] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: SiS should work out of the box... I have a SiS card
[10:15] <ColonelKernel> hmnmm
[10:15] <flaccid> i enabled plug n play os in bios and this may have fixed the fan problem. it hasnt turned off on this boot
[10:16] <nrdb> flaccid: thanks
[10:16] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: open kmix
[10:16] <ColonelKernel> crimsun, i submitted, now what do I paste into IRC?
[10:16] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: the url mentioned
[10:16] <ColonelKernel> ahmm.
[10:16] <ColonelKernel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17908
[10:16] <ColonelKernel> maybe?
[10:17] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: what is the current mixer in kmix ?
[10:17] <ColonelKernel> hmmm. lemme check
[10:17] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: also make sure it is not muted :P
[10:17] <ColonelKernel> SiS SI7012
[10:17] <ColonelKernel> no tmuted :D
[10:17] <basheer> does anyone know how to make a webcam work in kubuntu?
[10:17] <ColonelKernel> lighted=unmuted yes?
[10:18] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: ok, i have the same sound card, works out of the box...
[10:18] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: yes
[10:18] <ColonelKernel> wow.
[10:18] <ColonelKernel> weird
[10:18] <flaccid> basheer: you could use msn webcam with kopete
[10:18] <abattoir> make sure everything is lighted...
[10:18] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: and is max
[10:18] <vigilante> Arrgh, just upgraded to kde 3.5.3, I am still having the problem of not being able to save new kmenu entries, can someone please help?
[10:18] <ColonelKernel> under switches??
[10:18] <abattoir> nope output
[10:19] <ColonelKernel> roger.
[10:19] <ColonelKernel> how should I test?
[10:19] <ColonelKernel> what generates sound in Kubuntu?
[10:19] <abattoir> ok, open amarok
[10:19] <ColonelKernel> opened
[10:19] <abattoir> amarok, is *the* best music player on the planet... :P
[10:19] <abattoir> ok, one sec
[10:19] <ColonelKernel> xine was unable to initialize any audio-drivers.
[10:19] <ColonelKernel> ERROR :D
[10:20] <gready> is it possible to enable the root account so I can login to kde as root
[10:20] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: can you paste that erro?
[10:20] <ColonelKernel> i dide
[10:20] <abattoir> *error. put it on pastebin, if it is long
[10:20] <ColonelKernel> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
[10:20] <ColonelKernel> xine was unable to initialize any audio-drivers.
[10:20] <ColonelKernel> its not
[10:20] <ColonelKernel> just xine was unab....
[10:21] <abattoir> oh, that's all ?
[10:21] <ColonelKernel> yessir
[10:21] <basheer> is there something to install to make it work?
[10:21] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: both devices are recognised. Now please pastebin ``amixer''
[10:22] <vigilante> can I run kmenu editor from command line?  if so whats the command?
[10:22] <abattoir> vigilante: kmenuedit
[10:23] <ColonelKernel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17909
[10:23] <ColonelKernel> there we go
[10:23] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: after you have done what crimsun said, try playing an ogg file from /usr/share/sounds in  amarok
[10:24] <gready> is it possible to enable the roottttttt account so I can login to kde as root
[10:24] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0
[10:24] <ColonelKernel> in the Konsole?
[10:25] <ColonelKernel> ok done
[10:25] <crimsun> now, amixer set 'Master' 80%
[10:25] <crimsun> then, aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav
[10:25] <ColonelKernel> done
[10:26] <ColonelKernel> error
[10:27] <ColonelKernel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17910
[10:27] <crimsun> ``lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*''
[10:28] <ColonelKernel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17911
[10:28] <vigilante> abattoir: does anyone else have a problem clicking on html links in konversation?
[10:28] <ColonelKernel> nope
[10:28] <bady> hey guys can someone tell me how I detach a screen again?
[10:29] <vigilante> Kubuntu is seeming buggy as time goes on, like less effort is spent on it than regular ubuntu
[10:29] <crimsun> ^a^d
[10:29] <gready> no
[10:29] <crimsun> bady: ^^
[10:30] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: killall artsd
[10:30] <bady> thx
[10:30] <vigilante> everytime I click on a link in konversation, kfmclient goes crazy
[10:30] <ColonelKernel> crimsun, that returned nothing
[10:30] <ColonelKernel> no output
[10:30] <crimsun> good
[10:30] <ColonelKernel> hmm
[10:30] <ColonelKernel> now what?
[10:31] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: use the lsof command again to check you don't have artsd processes
[10:31] <ColonelKernel> can  I paste here?
[10:31] <ColonelKernel> short
[10:31] <crimsun> no
[10:31] <ColonelKernel> k
[10:32] <ColonelKernel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17912
[10:32] <ColonelKernel> much less
[10:32] <crimsun> ok, good.
[10:32] <crimsun> now try the aplay
[10:33] <basheer> hello?
[10:33] <basheer> anyone out there?
[10:33] <qbit> vigilante: if you're using Firefox browser go to settings, configure, behavior, and click check box "use custom browser" and put firefox -remote 'openURL(%u,new-tab)' in the box
[10:33] <ColonelKernel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17913
[10:34] <ColonelKernel> i didn't actually hear anything though
[10:34] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: did it return to a prompt?
[10:34] <qbit> vigilante: in the Konversation settings
[10:34] <ColonelKernel> yes
[10:34] <ColonelKernel> i believe
[10:34] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: good, now, amixer set 'External Amplifier' off
[10:34] <ColonelKernel> roger.
[10:35] <ColonelKernel> need the pastebin or not
[10:35] <crimsun> then try the aplay again
[10:35] <crimsun> no
[10:35] <ColonelKernel> same message
[10:35] <ColonelKernel> no sound...
[10:37] <ColonelKernel> crimsun, still there?
[10:37] <crimsun> amixer set '3D Control Sigmatel - Depth' off && amixer set 'Rear Jack' 'Front Output'
[10:37] <ColonelKernel> ah
[10:37] <ColonelKernel> done
[10:37] <ColonelKernel> pastebin?
[10:38] <crimsun> no, try aplay
[10:38] <ColonelKernel> negative for sound :(
[10:38] <flaccid> rightio i still have my problem. i will be back later to pick somones brains on ACPI
[10:38] <crimsun> ok, install aumix and adjust the volumes
[10:38] <crimsun> I need to return to work
[10:38] <ColonelKernel> will that fix it?
[10:38] <Pupeno_> My wireless access point offers the following encryption mechanisms 802.1x, WPA, WPA-PSK (default), WPA2 and WPA2-PSK. Which one should I use (all the clients are Kubuntus) ?
[10:39] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: it presents an easier interface to you and fiddles more knobs in the background
[10:39] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: and thus is more likely to fix stuff
[10:39] <ColonelKernel> ahh
[10:39] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: also, make sure you're running 2.6.15-26.44
[10:39] <ColonelKernel> under adept install or google?
[10:40] <crimsun> adept will show it if you have universe enabled
[10:40] <ColonelKernel> 2.6.15 explain? Kernel version/
[10:40] <gafty> hello i have a dwl-650g wireless pcmcia card. What module should I use?
[10:40] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: uname -r
[10:40] <ColonelKernel> what?
[10:40] <crimsun> type that.
[10:40] <crimsun> tell me the output .
[10:40] <ColonelKernel> ah
[10:40] <ColonelKernel> 2.6.15-23-386
[10:40] <crimsun> too old
[10:40] <crimsun> update && dist-upgrade
[10:41] <ColonelKernel> damn
[10:41] <ColonelKernel> in the Konsole that didnt work
[10:41] <crimsun> what didn't work?
[10:41] <ColonelKernel> was update... a command?
[10:42] <aegeanlinux> I thought this was the __kubuntu__ channel ???
[10:42] <ColonelKernel> it is
[10:42] <aegeanlinux> isn't it more like apt_get
[10:42] <aegeanlinux> or ss like that
[10:43] <ColonelKernel> crimsun, can you explain how to update-dist or w/e
[10:43] <crimsun> just ``sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade''
[10:43] <ColonelKernel> ah thanks
[10:44] <ColonelKernel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1791
[10:44] <ColonelKernel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17914
[10:45] <crimsun> close Adept first.
[10:45] <Nickay> Hi i have install kubuntu but i have problem with my sceen resolution. How can configure it from console?
[10:45] <ColonelKernel> i did i thought
[10:45] <ColonelKernel> how can I force quit it
[10:45] <crimsun> sudo pkill adept
[10:45] <flaccid> ok i'm back. who knows about acpi in ubuntu. i have an irq setting for acpi in bios. when linux boots it turns off the cpu fan
[10:46] <ColonelKernel> it's updating now
[10:48] <ColonelKernel> will this require a restart?
[10:48] <Nickay> Hi i have install kubuntu but i have problem with my sceen resolution. How can configure it from console?Thanks
[10:48] <ColonelKernel> nm
[10:48] <ColonelKernel> it's done crimsun
[10:49] <flaccid> or maybe i can ask, how do i turn off acpi on boot?
[10:49] <ColonelKernel> AUMix installed
[10:49] <gready> is it possible to enable the root account so I can login to kde as root
[10:50] <ColonelKernel> crimsum, ajusted all volumes up, now trying aplay again or w/e
[10:52] <Lynoure> gready: if you add a question mark to your questions, more people will notice them.
[10:52] <Lynoure> ...lunch.
[10:52] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: yes, you'll need to reboot.
[10:52] <ColonelKernel> affirmative, be right back
[10:52] <crimsun> (to use the new kernel)
[10:52] <gready> ok
[10:52] <gready> is it possible to enable the root account so I can login to kde as root?
[10:52] <crimsun> sure
[10:52] <crimsun> !root > gready
[10:52] <flaccid> can someone help me to implement this workaround ? http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org/msg02068.html
[10:54] <gready> whats that
[10:55] <jaro> Good Morning
[10:55] <corin> crimsum, this is ColonelKernel
[10:56] <corin> tried aplay, no sound still
[10:56] <crimsun> corin: did you use aumix to adjust the volumes?
[10:56] <corin> yues
[10:56] <corin> yes
[10:56] <corin> all maxed
[10:57] <crimsun> they shouldn't all be maxed
[10:57] <corin> *nearly maxed
[10:57] <crimsun> IEC958* should be off/muted
[10:57] <corin> i don't even seee that one
[10:57] <crimsun> no big deal.
[10:57] <corin> ok
[10:58] <crimsun> close aumix, and type: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 1
[10:58] <crimsun> then try aplay.
[10:58] <crimsun> if that doesn't work, I'll need to see your ac97 register dump in /proc/asound/card0/codec97#0/ac97#0-0+regs
[10:59] <corin> that didnt work
[11:00] <corin> what should I use to open that file?
[11:00] <crimsun> cat
[11:00] <crimsun> I have to leave very soon
[11:00] <corin> damn
[11:00] <corin> k got the dump
[11:00] <jaro> Who Is willing to help me get this LCD-Screen-Bug with Acer Aspire 1350 sorted ??
[11:01] <corin> very close
[11:01] <jaro> Until now its a never ending story...
[11:01] <crimsun> corin: please file a bug, attach (don't inline) that dump
[11:01] <corin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17915
[11:01] <corin> i don't really know how to file a bug :(
[11:01] <corin> u can't look at it?
[11:02] <crimsun> no, I'm in a phone conf right now
[11:02] <corin> ok
[11:02] <osh_> corin: https://launchpad.net <- there you can file a bug. It's quite easy.
[11:02] <crimsun> please file the bug, and I'll look at it
[11:02] <corin> alrighty thanks
[11:02] <crimsun> make sure you file it against linux-source-2.6.15
[11:02] <corin> ok
[11:03] <corin> where do I click to file, osh_?
[11:05] <osh_> corin: first you create an account (top right). then do a search for kernel-source and the link "The linux kernel" should show up. I believe you file your bug there.
[11:05] <corin> ok
[11:06] <osh_> corin: yep. on the left side there's a link saying "Bugs".
[11:07] <corin> osh, still can't find where to file. i'm logged in
[11:08] <osh_> corin: https://launchpad.net/products/linux
[11:08] <corin> got it nm
[11:10] <corin> ok i'm leaving
[11:11] <corin> Bug Reported
[11:11] <corin> Peace
[11:11] <osh_> corin: thanks. =)
[11:12] <corin> np
[11:12] <abattoir> corin, sorry, just catching up, what happened?
[11:12] <corin> i submitted but report
[11:12] <corin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17915
[11:13] <corin> crimsum walked me thorough a loong process
[11:13] <corin> bug*
[11:13] <corin> not but :D
[11:13] <abattoir> oh...
[11:14] <corin> anything you can do?
[11:14] <corin> if not, i'm gonna zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[11:14] <corin> freakin 5:15 in the morning :(...
[11:14] <abattoir> corin: i'm not sure, if kmix detects your sound card, but amarok doesnt, i dont know...
[11:14] <abattoir> ok, ok, go sleep :)
[11:15] <corin> ok
[11:15] <corin> should I just check here tommorrow and hope for the best?
[11:15] <abattoir> corin: sure
[11:17] <corin> ok
[11:17] <corin> thanks everybody...
[11:17] <corin> zzz
[11:25] <ergin> hello everyone
[11:26] <ergin> is there anybody to help me ?
[11:26] <osh_> ergin: ask your question first, then we'll see.
[11:27] <ergin> i have two sound card
[11:27] <ergin> and
[11:27] <ergin> one of them pcmcia
[11:28] <ergin> i prefer to use it
[11:28] <ergin> but kubuntu prefers on board
[11:28] <ergin> how can i change that
[11:28] <ergin> ??
[11:29] <ergin> there is no chance to disable on bios
[11:30] <osh_> ergin: I think that you can disable the internal card by removing the module that controls it /etc/modules.conf or some such.
[11:32] <ergin> no way :)
[11:32] <ergin> poor me :)))))))))
[11:36] <qbit> arghhhh! All the problem(s) I've been having the last couple of days turns out be the second hard drive dying; pulled it out and now all is well...  arggghhh!
[11:40] <kakalto> lol.
[11:40] <kakalto> sucks when that happens, eh
[11:42] <qbit> really sucks 'cause I should have figured it out yesterday   :(
[11:43] <Nickay> How can login with root account in KDE? I didnt set the password during the installation. Is there any default password for root?
[11:43] <kakalto> !tell Nickay about root
[11:44] <kakalto> Nickay: root account is disabled by default
[11:44] <imbrandon> !sudo > Nickay
[11:44] <kakalto> imbrandon: already did that =)
[11:44] <imbrandon> ahh yea :) just noticed
[11:44] <kakalto> hehe
[11:45] <qbit> can't you sudo passwd and add a password to it? as long as you're already in sudoers?
[11:45] <imbrandon> qbit, you can but not a good idea as ubuntu was designed NOT to use that
[11:45] <qbit> heheh
[11:45] <kakalto> yeah
[11:45] <imbrandon> and it will break things
[11:46] <qbit> yeah - I wouldn't ever run X/KDE as root   lol
[11:46] <imbrandon> like ice auth files
[11:46] <kakalto> well, you can just run a single app as root - kdesu <app>
[11:46] <qbit> if it's a graphical app that's what I do
[11:47] <qbit> but I do like to be able to su, old habit
[11:47] <Pupeno_> qbit: sudo su -
[11:47] <Nickay> One more questiobn. During installation for Kubuntu it must be internet connection? Without internet is able to finished the install?
[11:47] <imbrandon> no internet is NEEDED
[11:47] <qbit> I find that after I get a box configged the way I want the need for root drops off to practilly nil
[11:48] <imbrandon> only for updates if you wish
[11:48] <kakalto> qbit: yeah, true
[11:48] <Nickay> thanks
[11:49] <imbrandon> unless your a dev and are changing bit and adding pieces all the time ;)
[11:50] <kakalto> then again, I have a tendency to tinker.
[11:50] <kakalto> must've picked it up from gentoo
[11:50] <qbit> me - when I'm in test mode I tend to beat it death
[11:50] <qbit> which is what I'm doing to Kubuntu right now
[11:51] <qbit> generally at home I've been using FreeBSD for 6-7 years now
[11:52] <kakalto> ah.
[11:52] <kakalto> I've been mostly gentoo for about 2 years.
[11:52] <kakalto> dipping my feet in ubuntu every 6 months or so
[11:53] <qbit> I haven't had a lot to do with Linux, pretty much the same as you just checking it out periodically
[11:54] <kakalto> yeh
[11:54] <osh_> Linux is crap. But so is windows. And osx. But atleast linux is free.
[11:54] <kakalto> I've raised an eye at freebsd
[11:54] <kakalto> but as I see, less support for hardware and even software.... I can't really bother trying.
[11:55] <qbit> I really like FreeBSD, but it is better used as a server environment
[11:55] <eniac_petrov> Dude's, I have small problem with adept. When I start adept, the program guives me a message: another program is using the database, I have tried to restart the computer or kill some processes, but this not works. The automatic updates applet is also broken. Please, help. :-)
[11:55] <kakalto> I have my nice kde-xgl-kubuntu setup now, I think I'll stick with it for a while
[11:55] <qbit> and up util very recently it was faster than Linux
[11:56] <qbit> but I'm seeing better disk transfer rates in Linux now, just don't think I trust async disk mounts on a server
[11:56] <kakalto> qbit: yeah, server.
[11:56] <kakalto> I don't run servers, only desktops =)
[11:56] <kakalto> eniac_petrov: sounds like your automatic updates applet is stopping adept from working =S
[11:57] <qbit> I do the MCSE thing at work; I'm responsible for a little over a couple of dozen Windows servers and 5 FreeBSD ones
[11:57] <kakalto> ah
[11:57] <qbit> and a small lan at home for my own fun
[11:58] <eniac_petrov> kakalto , no, the computer guives me this message also in the automatic updates
[12:02] <kakalto> eniac_petrov: ah. sorry _I_ can't help, but stick around - or google for it
[12:02] <sugu> su says incorrect password
[12:02] <eniac_petrov> kakalto: no problems, but thanks
[12:02] <kakalto> good luck =)
[12:03] <eniac_petrov> thanks
[12:03] <sugu> please help me
[12:03] <eniac_petrov> sugu, that is your trouble?
[12:03] <kakalto> sugu: 'incorrect password' usually means, just that
[12:03] <kakalto> you typed it in wrong - caps lock isn't on?
[12:03] <isete> is swap partion supposed to be `amount of RAM` * 2 ?
[12:04] <kakalto> isete: to an extent
[12:04] <kakalto> isete: that was the rule of thumb, once upon a time. but these days, with 1gb of ram, you don't need 2gb of swap
[12:04] <sugu> kakalto: I give correct password... what can i do for tht
[12:04] <isete> that's exactly what i have
[12:04] <isete> i thought i need 2 GB
[12:05] <isete> what is the size nowdays?
[12:05] <sugu> it says su returned with error
[12:05] <kakalto> isete: I'm not completely sure; I did 768mb, but when I monitor my swap usage, I never use any
[12:05] <kakalto> I also have 1gb of ram
[12:05] <kakalto> sugu: weird.
[12:06] <isete> kakalto: if i resize my swap part - how do i need to change settings in kubuntu? do i need to?
[12:06] <kakalto> isete: nah, it should "just work"(TM)
[12:06] <kakalto> =)
[12:07] <sugu> kakalto: please tell me... why is this error.. if try any command with sudo it works.. wat is su
[12:07] <isete> can i make new free space be consumed by the root part or u'd suggest making a new partition?
[12:07] <kakalto> sugu: ah.
[12:07] <kakalto> sugu: sorry, my eyes fail me.
[12:08] <kakalto> I didn't realise it said 'su'
[12:08] <kakalto> root account is disabled by default in kubuntu.
[12:08] <sugu> ya it said su
[12:08] <qbit> sugu: what happens if you do: sudo passwd -e root  ?
[12:08] <kakalto> !sudo > sugu
[12:09] <sugu> kakalto: it says Password set to expire
[12:09] <Pupeno_> I have to computers where the network wi-fi interface is configured exactly the same, the computers are next to each other, one connects the other doesn't (never gets a DHCP offer). The signal in the one that doesn't connect si good. What I see in iwconfig is that the essid is not set. Any ideas ?
[12:09] <qbit> or even sudo passwd -S root should show status
[12:10] <TheHighChild> about to test compiz, wish me luck!
[12:10] <sugu> kakalto: is it because my password contains "su"
[12:11] <kakalto> sugu: I doubt, not sure
[12:11] <sugu> kakalto: how to change password.. i want command
[12:12] <kakalto> root password? isn't it just 'sudo passwd'?
[12:12] <qbit> well start off with sudo passwd -S root
[12:12] <qbit> man passwd will show all the stuff
[12:12] <qbit> -l will lock and account and -u will unlock
[12:13] <qbit> -e will expire an account forcing a user to change the password on nect login
[12:14] <sugu> kakalto: it still says "Su returned with an error"
[12:14] <sugu> any idea what is Su
[12:15] <qbit> su stands for "superuser"
[12:15] <qbit> if your account is listed in /etc/sudoers you can "su" to root privilege
[12:15] <kakalto> sugu: sorry matey, I'm going absolutely mad trying to txt people. hopefully qbit's helping you well :)
[12:17] <osh_> qbit: actually "su" stands for "switch user" or atleast it did.
[12:17] <kakalto> osh_: then how does "sudo" stand for "superuser do"?
[12:17] <kakalto> I suppose they're just different
[12:17] <kakalto> duh.
[12:17] <sysrpl> does anyone here use gtk interface designer?
[12:18] <qbit> actually iirc osh_ is right
[12:18] <thyko> how do i customize the bootsplash?
[12:18] <thyko> to this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=29662
[12:19] <Tm_Konvi> kakalto: hi
[12:19] <kakalto> Tm_Konvi: hey =)
[12:19] <sugu> qbit: Can u help me.. please tell me why this happens
[12:20] <qbit> thyko: in system config look down at system admin at bottom for the login manager
[12:20] <qbit> thyko: change to adminstrator mode and look at the "background" tab
[12:21] <qbit> if you're talking about KDM; if you mean before that I'm not sure
[12:21] <qbit> sugu: it probably happens because the root account is either locked or has no password
[12:22] <qbit> or both
[12:22] <sugu> qbit: but is there a root account..
[12:23] <qbit> look at /etc/group and see if your user account is in the admin group
[12:24] <qbit> and if the account is locked you'll need to unlock it
[12:24] <qbit> man passwd tells which switches do what
[12:25] <qbit> iirc kubuntu puts the first user account created into the admin group in /etc/group on initial install/setup
[12:25] <qbit> the admin group is in sudoers
[12:26] <qbit> this should allow you [if you are in the admin group]  to sudo passwd
[12:26] <qbit> do this: sudo passwd -S root
[12:26] <NKjoep> hi, i'm runnin kubuntu 606... why the desktop icons of devices are hidden? i enabled them but they still stay away
[12:27] <qbit> this will either return the status of the account or an error
[12:27] <sugu> qbit: my account is the one and only account on this system
[12:27] <qbit> if you can retrieve the status this way you can manipulate the account
[12:28] <qbit> then if you cat /etc/group you should see something like this: admin:x:111:youruseraccount name
[12:29] <qbit> near the bottom
[12:29] <sugu> qbit: when i give "sudo passwd -S root" it returns"root P 07/13/2006 0 99999 7 -1"
[12:30] <ivan> hi all what is command for I install program
[12:30] <ivan> ?
[12:32] <osh_> ivan: sudo aptitude install "program"
[12:33] <ivan> I dont know how install skype :( ???
[12:34] <osh_> ivan: skype is kind of special. Download "easyubuntu" and install it from there.
[12:34] <osh_> !tell ivan about easyubuntu
[12:34] <ivan> ?
[12:34] <Gonzo> i can't mount my usb sd card reader anymore
[12:34] <Gonzo> it just suddently stopped working
[12:34] <Gonzo> :(
[12:35] <Gonzo> i can see a few post on the forum about that but nothing that solves the actual problem
[12:35] <thyko> qbit: thanks
[12:35] <Gonzo> anyone has any idea?
[12:35] <ivan> whay is command i install skype
[12:36] <osh_> !easyubuntu
[12:36] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:36] <ivan> ok
[12:36] <ivan> thanks
[12:40] <cristiano> hello all
[12:41] <mongey|zZz> !mp3
[12:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:42] <osh_> !tell mongey|zZz about easyubuntu
[12:43] <cristiano> when i use "setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout it" it gives me an error
[12:43] <cristiano> it says "
[12:43] <cristiano> Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property
[12:43] <cristiano> Use defaults: rules - 'xorg' model - 'pc101' layout - 'us'
[12:43] <cristiano> Segmentation fault
[12:43] <cristiano> what kind of error is this? how can i fix it?
[12:44] <cristiano> any clues for me?
[12:45] <sugu> hi
[12:45] <cristiano> sugu: hi
[12:46] <sugu> cristiano: how to play MP3 in kubuntu... I saw the wiki page...
[12:47] <cristiano> sugu u can use Amarok or XMMS as player
[12:47] <sugu> cristiano: it says to install some packages... but how to intall them
[12:47] <cristiano> sugu: if u have already installed all the codecs suggested on the wiki page u should be ok
[12:47] <sugu> cristiano: no i have not installed the codecs
[12:48] <qbit> add multiverse to your /etc/apt/sources.list to install the additional codecs if you don't have them
[12:48] <cristiano> sugu: u can install with apt-get or its graphical interface Adept in Kubuntu
[12:49] <cristiano> sugu: u should follow the instructions given in the wiki and enable all the repositories in the sources.list (u can do this via Adept) and adding the multiverse repo
[12:49] <sugu> cristiano: how to add repos in adept
[12:50] <cristiano> sugu: click on View->manage repositories
[12:50] <cristiano> (i hope it's the right translation, i've it in italian ^^)
[12:50] <cristiano> uniq: hello how are u? :)
[12:50] <sugu> cristiano: i see only Review Changes in View menu
[12:51] <isete> when i boot my new kubuntu install it stalls at "waiting for root file system". how long should i wait? what might be the problem?
[12:51] <cristiano> sugu:  did u open "Adept"?are u sure?
[12:51] <isete> bootu my new kubuntu
[12:51] <sugu> ya
[12:52] <sugu> cristiano: wat to do??
[12:52] <cristiano> sugu: u should have 5 menu : "Adept, Modify, View, Settings, Help" right?
[12:52] <sugu> cristiano: ya
[12:52] <cristiano> sugu: ok click adept
[12:52] <sugu> cristiano: in adept i see quit
[12:53] <cristiano> sugu: just quit?
[12:53] <sugu> cristiano: only wuit
[12:53] <sugu> cristiano: ya
[12:53] <cristiano> sugu: did u enter the password when prompted opening adept?
[12:53] <sugu> cristiano: ya
[12:53] <Smooph>  you can also edit the file located at "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:53] <Smooph> crabstic: sugu
[12:53] <cristiano> sugu: that's quite weird...ok do as told by Smooph
[12:54] <cristiano> sugu:  in console type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:54] <sugu> cristiano: smooph: please wait.. let me try
[12:54] <Smooph> sure
[12:55] <cristiano> then uncomment all the repositories and add the multiverse repo
[12:55] <cristiano> Smooph can i ask u something?
[12:55] <Smooph> sure
[12:55] <sugu> cristiano: ha ha all lines are comment :)
[12:56] <Smooph> one second
[12:56] <elden> guys, i just want to know something
[12:56] <cristiano> when typing in console "setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout it" it gives an error
[12:56] <cristiano> Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property
[12:56] <cristiano> Use defaults: rules - 'xorg' model - 'pc101' layout - 'us'
[12:56] <cristiano> Segmentation fault
[12:56] <elden> does xgll & compiz run smoothly in an Intel 915 card?
[12:57] <cristiano> which kind of error is this?
[12:57] <cristiano> sugu: u have to uncomment the repositories only (ie: deb http://... dapper universe and so on)
[01:00] <TheHighChild> any 1337 compiz folsk in the house? I have ir working, just some questions on configuration options and tools
[01:01] <Smooph> sry I have to go
[01:01] <NKjoep> i'm runnin kubuntu 606... why the desktop icons of devices are hidden? i enabled them but they still stay away
[01:01] <sugu> cristiano: i uncommented all lines like deb http://.... .. .
[01:01] <sugu> cristiano: but same again
[01:02] <cristiano> now from console do "sudo apt-get update"
[01:05] <dondi> has anyone ever installed java webstart on kubuntu?
[01:06] <dondi> and should it work with GCJ?
[01:07] <dondi> my feeling is it won't. :(
[01:08] <anders_> hello
[01:08] <jaro> Whats wrong ? I cant Kill Kaffeine ????
[01:10] <jaro> how can i Find out which process is using the em28xx module ??
[01:10] <anders_> anyone that is good at java here?
[01:12] <anders_> hello
[01:13] <dondi> i'm sure some of us are. ;)
[01:13] <elden> heh
[01:13] <anders_> anybody that can help me install java to kubuntu???
[01:13] <elden> i can help you out
[01:13] <dondi> hah... that's exactly what I'm doing now.
[01:13] <dondi> see here http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/142
[01:13] <anders_> :P
[01:14] <anders_> dondi: are u speaking with me
[01:14] <dondi> anders_: yes
[01:14] <elden> what java are you referring to/
[01:14] <anders_> sun java
[01:14] <anders_> i need
[01:14] <elden> runtime environment?
[01:14] <anders_> yes
[01:14] <anders_> so i can play java programs etc etc
[01:15] <elden> ic
[01:15] <dondi> check out the link i posted
[01:15] <elden> then just go to java.com
[01:15] <elden> and download the binary or rpm
[01:15] <anders_> dondi: ok, i just have to follow it
[01:16] <elden> or just check this link: http://java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml
[01:16] <pedro> Hello everyone, I have a problem with ip direction
[01:16] <dondi> anders_: yes, my guess is you will have to use 'sudo' every now and then though.
[01:16] <anders_> dondi: it dident find: java-package ??
[01:17] <pedro> everytime I reboot my pc, my ip direction changes
[01:17] <anders_> apt-get install fakeroot java-package dident work dondi !
[01:17] <pedro> I have to open ports in my router xavi
[01:18] <pedro> but in Kubuntu, when I make >ifconfig< it shows me an inet adress that I cannot use to open ports
[01:18] <pedro> In theory, the direction must start by 192.168...
[01:18] <anders_> dondi: are u there?
[01:19] <dondi> anders_: yes
[01:19] <pedro> but it is not like that any help to open ports o change the ip direction?
[01:19] <dondi> trying to figure it out
[01:19] <anders_> ok, becouse i just installed it :)
[01:20] <Howitzer> Is anyone going trough the same thing as me?, I tried Kubuntu out and i was really excited, now i'm just bored with it and going back to Ubuntu :/
[01:20] <kakalto> anders_: you're back? =D that was an awful long 20mins
[01:21] <anders_> kakalto: omg, my cdrom was weird
[01:21] <kakalto> you mean, your cup-holder?
[01:21] <anders_> :o
[01:21] <anders_> ?
[01:21] <kakalto> =)
[01:21] <kakalto> dw.
[01:22] <kakalto> it's a classic joke. the cdrom drive is a cupholder.
[01:22] <anders_> :p
[01:22] <anders_> private chat plx :d
[01:22] <aegeanlinux> anyone here have about 1 hour of free programming time to donate?
[01:22] <aegeanlinux> of C
[01:23] <kakalto> not me
[01:23] <aegeanlinux> dang
[01:24] <anders_> kakalto: priv? :S
[01:24] <sugu> cristiano: in which repo is the MP3 codecs
[01:25] <Snake> !mp3
[01:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:25] <Snake> God ubotu got so generic
[01:25] <kakalto> lol
[01:29] <Snake> and waits and waits and waits
[01:30] <dondi> anders_: this is what worked for me. modify /etc/apt/sources.list, change
[01:30] <dondi> Change the first section lines deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[01:30] <dondi> to deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse
[01:31] <anders_> ok
[01:31] <munu> anybody - how do i set root password on kubuntu?
[01:31] <Lynoure> munu: do you really need to?
[01:31] <anders_> dondi: what worked after that? :P
[01:31] <Lynoure> munu: sudo is pretty handy
[01:31] <anders_> dondi: problem is that iam using dapper?
[01:32] <Snake> Grr wtf
[01:32] <mlarcher> i usually use "sudo su" to get root and then i can set the root-password simply with passwd
[01:33] <munu> great - just did it
[01:33] <munu> thanks
[01:33] <anders_> dondi: ...?
[01:34] <anders_> dondi: ...?
[01:34] <anders_> iam using dapper..
[01:36] <mlarcher> anybody ever tried to install pdo_informix?
[01:36] <Snake> !info pdo_informix
[01:36] <ubotu> Package pdo_informix does not exist in dapper
[01:36] <Snake> uhh what is it?
[01:36] <Snake> lol
[01:36] <anders_> kakalto!
[01:36] <mlarcher> it is a php connector for informix database
[01:36] <kakalto> anders_!
[01:36] <kakalto> :)
[01:36] <anders_> wtf :P
[01:36] <Snake> Snake!
[01:37] <mlarcher> you need pear and pecl to install
[01:37] <kakalto> hehe.
[01:37] <Snake> Ah
[01:37] <Snake> mlarcher: cant say I Have :(
[01:37] <anders_> kakalto: can u help with automatix now?
[01:37] <kakalto> anders_, I remember someone of a similar stature as you, just a few hours ago..
[01:37] <Snake> anders_: go with EU, :)
[01:37] <anders_> huh? :O
[01:37] <mlarcher> i tried... but does not work
[01:38] <Snake> ubotu: easyubuntu > anders_
[01:38] <kakalto> anders_: sorry, should I go back to my padded room?
[01:38] <anders_> ye
[01:38] <Snake> ahhhhh
[01:39] <Snake> POS
[01:39] <anders_> Snake: wtf is that? P:
[01:39] <Snake> anders_: a program that (imo) OWNS automatix :)
[01:39] <anders_> ok :)
[01:39] <anders_> can i remove it when i got java? :o
[01:39] <Snake> Sure
[01:40] <stinkball> can someone help me get my sound working?
[01:40] <Snake> stinkball: be more specific?
[01:40] <anders_> huh
[01:40] <anders_> shall i install all this in here or shall i download automatix to?
[01:40] <stinkball> well... i have a SB audidy 2 zs and there is no sound
[01:41] <stinkball> as far as i know i haven't changed anything since install
[01:41] <Snake> anders_: EU should be fine, automatix has a rep of breaking systems (apparently their new team is making it better, but well see)
[01:42] <Snake> Not to get debiany in here.. but so that everyone knows... DONT IRC ON ROOT
[01:43] <anders_> ok
[01:43] <anders_> ofc i dont irc at root :d
[01:44] <Snake> have I mentions how much I hate java
[01:44] <dondi> why is that? @ Snake
[01:45] <anders_> Snake: i have to reboot now?
[01:45] <Snake> dondi: It runs. really. really. slow. on my system
[01:45] <__osh___> Snake: What? You don't like the "Write once, debug everywhere" ideom?
[01:45] <Snake> anders_: whys that??
[01:45] <anders_> to activate my nVIDIA
[01:45] <Snake> ahh
[01:45] <Snake> prolly
[01:46] <anders_> how can i download gaim and put it on desktop?
[01:46] <Snake> WOW thats neat!!!
[01:46] <anders_> apt-get install gaim ?
[01:46] <Snake> anders_: yes
[01:46] <Snake> sudo apt-get to be exact
[01:46] <anders_> but how can i put it on the desktop?
[01:46] <anders_> oook?
[01:46] <Snake> anders_: you would need to right click, and add shortcut to application
[01:46] <__osh___> anders_: you could probably just run the /etc/init.d/nvidia script and go to runlevel3, add the new module and go back up to 5. If you want.
[01:46] <Snake> I just got MP3 previewing set up yayaayy
[01:47] <Snake> __osh___: or he could reboot :P
[01:47] <Snake> :)
[01:47] <__osh___> Snake: probably quicker, yeah... ;-)
[01:47] <Snake> Nautlis MP3 previewing is pretty awesome lol
[01:47] <Snake> songs**
[01:48] <Snake> cya guys
[01:48] <anders_> what is the name to come to the xorg.conf ?
[01:49] <anders_> /dev/X11/xorg.conf ?
[01:49] <munu> is there a way to read CHM files in kubuntu?
[01:49] <munu> it's compiled help format
[01:50] <aegeanlinux> no, not that I know of
[01:50] <aegeanlinux> but there is a CHM decompiler
[01:50] <aegeanlinux> that then spits out html files
[01:50] <aegeanlinux> which you can view in your favorite browser
[01:51] <sugu> i dont see windows in the grub menu how can i restore that
[01:51] <dondi> anders_: /etc/X11...
[01:51] <NKjoep> .quit late
[01:52] <anders_> :o
[01:53] <anders_> Snake: there?
[01:54] <anders_> how do i install: gedit ???
[01:54] <cristiano> ehm how to become away in irc? ^^
[01:54] <cristiano> .away
[01:56] <anders_> ehm
[01:56] <anders_> ehm
[01:56] <anders_> emh
[01:56] <dondi> Kate is quite Kool :p
[02:09] <coma> !homo
[02:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about homo - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:10] <aegeanlinux> !libtar
[02:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about libtar - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:10] <aegeanlinux> !kde
[02:10] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[02:10] <aegeanlinux> !your mum
[02:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about your mum - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:10] <coma> !hacking the mainframe
[02:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about hacking the mainframe - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:11] <aegeanlinux> !any other linux distributions
[02:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about any other linux distributions - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:11] <aegeanlinux> !suse
[02:11] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[02:11] <aegeanlinux> !. I lie. Really, I do
[02:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about . I lie. Really, I do - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:12] <coma> !love, teach me to love
[02:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about love, teach me to love - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:13] <aegeanlinux> !the UFO that just landed. Head the newspaper, watch TV
[02:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about the UFO that just landed. Head the newspaper, watch TV - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:14] <coma> lmfao
[02:16] <Dasnipa] [> !why my mother left me
[02:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about why my mother left me - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:17] <aegeanlinux> !the stolen item
[02:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about the stolen item - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:17] <aegeanlinux> LOL!!!!!!!!!
[02:25] <aegeanlinux> Good night all
[02:25] <coma> night
[02:25] <MetaMorfoziS> can i get cedega without paying?
[02:32] <osh_> MetaMorfoziS: No. But wine is the free version.
[02:33] <kakalto> MetaMorfoziS: there is a way. it's called cvscedega
[02:34] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[02:34] <MetaMorfoziS> i tryingit
[02:34] <MetaMorfoziS> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Cedega+CVS
[02:34] <MetaMorfoziS> i downloaded the script
[02:34] <MetaMorfoziS> the wineCVS.sh
[02:35] <MetaMorfoziS> but i dunno what i need to get it work
[02:36] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody can help me?
[02:44] <Kwukki> !lol
[02:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about lol - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:53] <mauricio> hello !!
[02:54] <mauricio> dose anybody knows how to install kubuntu into a ich7 raid ????
[02:54] <mauricio> does anybody knows how to install kubuntu into a ich7 raid ????
[02:55] <Pupeno_> Hello.
[02:56] <Pupeno_> I have a Kubuntu box that was playing music just fine yesterday. But today amarok seems to be playing but no sound is comming out. I've tried raising all the volumes. Any ideas.
[02:56] <Pupeno_> Sometimes, if I reboot, it works.
[02:56] <Pascutti> Did you look the engine?
[02:57] <Pupeno_> Pascutti: the engine is xine, it is the only one ever installed in this box.
[02:57] <Pascutti> In suse I had a lot of headache with xine...
[02:57] <Pupeno_> Pascutti: in Kubuntu it is the default.
[03:10] <Pupeno_> ok, this computer is driving me crazy.
[03:11] <Pupeno_> the wireless card doesn't connect on start up of the computer but if I do sudo ifdown ath0 ; sudo ifup ath0 it starts.
[03:20] <Pupeno_> just a /etc/init.d/network restarts makes it work :(
[03:23] <pparker> hi, i've got problems with screensaver not working fine
[03:24] <pparker> i can test them but it dont start automatically
[03:24] <pparker> any advices
[03:28] <Hobbsee> pparker: kde 3.5.3?
[03:29] <erikson> OK folks , looking for a way to play and backup my dvds ...right now nothing seems to be able to play the copy protected ones
[03:30] <pparker> Hobbsee: yes on dapper and compiz
[03:30] <Hobbsee> pparker: yeah, known problem.
[03:31] <pparker> is it compiz ?
[03:31] <Hobbsee> heh
[03:32] <Aji-Dahaka> oh, right
[03:32] <Hobbsee> no, it's a problem with kde 3.5.3
[03:32] <Aji-Dahaka> anyone know how edgy eff is progressing?  Repos up yet?
[03:33] <pparker> Hobbsee: kopete crashed
[03:33] <Hobbsee> Aji-Dahaka: first knot cd is being made, i dont know how broken it is
[03:33] <Hobbsee> pparker: ah yes, great.  which kopete?
[03:33] <Aji-Dahaka> brokenness, great :)
[03:33] <Hobbsee> i think
[03:33] <pparker> 0.12
[03:33] <Hobbsee> Aji-Dahaka: it's  for developers only, at the moment
[03:33] <Aji-Dahaka> I _love_ brokenness <3
[03:33] <Aji-Dahaka> <-- developer
[03:33] <Hobbsee> pparker: no, it's a problem with kde 3.5.3
[03:33] <Hobbsee> Aji-Dahaka: nice, what for?
[03:34] <Aji-Dahaka> Hobbsee: kde, linux, freebsd, papi ...
[03:34] <Aji-Dahaka> the list (unfortunately) goes on and on
[03:34] <Hobbsee> Aji-Dahaka: nice :)
[03:34] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:34] <Aji-Dahaka> but linux and papi for work
[03:34] <Aji-Dahaka> kde and freebsd get shoved into my spare time
[03:35] <pparker> i've also a problem with kontact: it d'ont write my emails on an mbox folder but on maildir; in settings i choose mbox
[03:35] <Aji-Dahaka> some of them are "forced" to be maildir....
[03:35] <Aji-Dahaka> (I don't like it, either)
[03:35] <osh_> Why's drupal so outdated in ubuntu? Even in dapper the latest version is 4.5 while both 4.6 and 4.7 has been out for a while.
[03:35] <erikson> which player will do copyrighted dvds...can't play movies :(
[03:36] <Aji-Dahaka> so I made an inbox of mbox format and then told everything that used to use Inbox to use inbox
[03:36] <pparker> after i can  not import them on thunderbird
[03:36] <Aji-Dahaka> erikson: mplayer should
[03:36] <osh_> erikson: any player with the right codecs installed. but mplayer is usually good.
[03:36] <luc45> erikson: it's not the player, its the lib
[03:36] <TheHighChild> any compiz users?
[03:36] <osh_> !tell erikson about easyubuntu
[03:36] <LeeJunFan> !dvdcss
[03:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about dvdcss - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:36] <Aji-Dahaka> ooh, burned
[03:37] <erikson> yeah, I realize I need more codecs and libs , but which ones ?
[03:37] <pparker> TheHighChild: here is one
[03:37] <luc45> erikson: libdvdcss
[03:38] <luc45> erikson: found it? http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/
[03:39] <TheHighChild> pparker: Nice name, close to my own. As for compiz. I have it setup and working, it's very cool but I can't figure out how to configure it. The stuff n gset-compix doesn't seem to have any affect. Just wondering if there is an alternative
[03:39] <Aji-Dahaka> TheHighChild: user, yes ... but knowledgeable I am not
[03:39] <Aji-Dahaka> gconf thingit
[03:40] <osh_> erikson: didn't you get the link about easyubuntu?
[03:40] <Aji-Dahaka> the gconf thingit has all (?) of the options specified in its own hard-to-understand format
[03:40] <TheHighChild> pparker: i hate not having a title bar, etc. I can't remap the keys either so no ctrl+tab which is obscene
[03:40] <osh_> ! tell osh_ about easyubuntu
[03:40] <luc45> erikson: after install u will probably need to update kafeine and reboot
[03:40] <pparker> TheHighChild: i've installed pykompiz for easy switching between kwin and compiz
[03:41] <Aji-Dahaka> pparker: what's that do?
[03:41] <pparker> allow to use kwin or compiz
[03:41] <TheHighChild> what is kwin?
[03:42] <doppelganger_> whats up everyone =)
[03:42] <pparker> the default kde window decorator
[03:43] <doppelganger_> what is the kubuntu (or KDE?) start button called? I'm wanting to change it's picture
[03:45] <doppelganger_> no one? aww, thats an easy one! =)
[03:45] <osh_> Could this be the reason drupal is so outdated? http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/drupal.html ? Does universe/multiverse use the debian packages?
[03:45] <Sikon> I installed Xgl and Compiz on Kubuntu 6.06 per the wiki guide, now "Show desktop" and some applications don't work
[03:45] <TheHighChild> kmenu
[03:46] <Sikon> those that use the system tray
[03:46] <jaro> How Can I use Analogue Mode with KAffeine (TV-USB)
[03:46] <insanekane> doppelganger_: i *think* you can just drag a picture onto the k button and it will use it
[03:46] <insanekane> doppelganger_: i *think*
[03:48] <insanekane> doppelganger_: /usr/share/apps/kicker/tiles/KDE_button_*.png
[03:48] <jaro> How Can I use Analogue Mode with KAffeine (TV-USB)
[03:49] <insanekane> doppelganger_: sorry, wrong
[03:49] <luc45> insanekane: it will if u use kbfx
[03:49] <insanekane> luc45: eh, kbfx really is quite bad
[03:49] <luc45> insanekane: yep
[03:50] <luc45> insanekane: i know. its crap
[03:50] <insanekane> luc45: very much so
[03:50] <insanekane> :)
[03:51] <luc45> insanekane: but still better than the tiny kmenu
[03:51] <abattoir__> doppelganger_: i think it is  /usr/share/icons/icon_theme/size/apps/kmenu.png
[03:52] <Pupeno_> what is the most raw way to test the sound ?
[03:52] <insanekane> luc45: not at all
[03:52] <abattoir__> doppelganger_: if it is a user installed theme, it'd be /home/usr/.kde/share/icons/icon_theme/size/apps/kmenu.png
[03:52] <luc45> insanekane: i will use it until something better appears.
[03:53] <abattoir__> Pupeno_: aplay an the cli
[03:53] <Pupeno_> abattoir__: thanks.
[03:53] <abattoir__> Pupeno_: aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*.ogg
[03:54] <teknoprep> how do i write to an ntfs partition?
[03:54] <Pupeno_> abattoir: I did aplay /etc/skel/Examples/ubuntu\ Sax.ogg, I hear something like static, ugly, but at least at hear something on this box. Nothing comes out of the other box.
[03:54] <insanekane> luc45: if it is only the icon that bothers you, there is a patch on the kde-apps.org which allows you to use any kind of image for the K Button
[03:54] <abattoir> Pupeno_: sorry, what about KDE*.wav ?
[03:54] <luc45> insanekane: yep?
[03:55] <luc45> insanekane: for 3.5.x?
[03:55] <abattoir> Pupeno_: i mean, try playing a wav file
[03:55] <Pupeno_> abattoir: that works :)
[03:55] <Pupeno_> abattoir: anyway, what bothers me is the other PC not playing anything.
[03:56] <abattoir> Pupeno_: iirc, aplay doesnt handle mp3/ogg
[03:56] <abattoir> Pupeno_: same setup?
[03:56] <Pupeno_> abattoir: very similar.
[03:56] <abattoir> Pupeno_: so same sound card?
[03:57] <ranunculoid> I have unpartitioned space (25gb) that I set aside at the end of my disk in case I ever installed windoze. I now know I will never want windoze. Does anyone know how I can merge this space with my "home" partition?
[03:57] <Pupeno_> abattoir: no, that's different.
[03:57] <luc45> insanekane: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=26681 ??
[03:57] <ninhertatil> hi all
[03:57] <Pupeno_> abattoir: the one not working has a Sound Blaster Live! and a (disabled) on-board SiS-something.
[03:58] <abattoir> Pupeno_: does kmix identify the card properly?
[03:58] <Pupeno_> abattoir: yes. It shows all the nifty sb live controls.
[03:58] <Pupeno_> abattoir: alsamixer as well.
[03:59] <osh_> ranunculoid: if you've created a volume of your home-dir then you can just create another volume from your unused space and merge the two. Check out evms.
[03:59] <insanekane> luc45: oh yeah thats the one
[04:00] <ranunculoid> osh_: apt-get install evms? Does it have a GUI?
[04:00] <luc45> insanekane: its for 3.4 :(
[04:01] <insanekane> luc45: so /
[04:01] <osh_> ranunculoid: yes, evms-gui I think. That only works if you've created lvm volumes already.
[04:01] <luc45> insanekane: how do i install this in 3.5?
[04:01] <Pupeno_> abattoir: I had to raise the Wave input (aside of the master and pcm outputs).
[04:01] <Pupeno_> Thanks.
[04:01] <ranunculoid> osh_: I put suse on it one day when I was bored, that'sd mean there's lvm volumes on it right?
[04:02] <abattoir> Pupeno_: oh, then try upgrading your kernel, if it is not the latest, sometime there should be a fix for it
[04:02] <insanekane> luc45: be back soon
[04:02] <luc45> insanekane: ok
[04:03] <cristiano> hello again
[04:03] <doppelganger_> whoops, back
[04:03] <cristiano> guys it looks like dmix suddenly isn't working anymore, anyone experienced this problem?
[04:03] <doppelganger_> hate being at work =\
[04:03] <doppelganger_> ok, so the "start" button is called kmenu?
[04:03] <osh_> ranunculoid: sorry, can't tell. Havent' tried suse.
[04:03] <doppelganger_> hmm
[04:04] <abattoir> doppelganger_: no, the icon for it is kmenu.png
[04:04] <doppelganger_> oh ok
[04:04] <abattoir> doppelganger_: look at the folders where you could try replacing it
[04:04] <ranunculoid> osh_: evms is installed. I just apt-got it. How do I launch it? "evms" or "evms-gui" return "command not found"
[04:04] <doppelganger_> ok, see what i had done was download kbfx last night...
[04:04] <doppelganger_> it was terrible..
[04:05] <doppelganger_> gave me a start button that wouldn't give me my old start button's functionality
[04:05] <abattoir> doppelganger_: you can remove it if you want
[04:05] <abattoir> doppelganger_: 'sudo apt-get remove kbfx' or through adept
[04:05] <doppelganger_> the "kmenu" option in kbfx wouldn't work, but the two others would (but were ugly as sin)
[04:05] <osh_> ranunculoid: try sudo pvdisplay, lvdisplay or vgdisplay? got any of those and you might not be SOL.
[04:05] <doppelganger_> so i guess i'll just try and replace it's png then
[04:05] <doppelganger_> =)
[04:05] <abattoir> doppelganger_: :)
[04:06] <doppelganger_> may i ask one more taskbar related question?
[04:06] <doppelganger_> tiny one
[04:06] <Aji-Dahaka> jeje, doppelganger_ ... that's much wittier than doppelganger
[04:06] <abattoir> doppelganger_: sure
[04:06] <ranunculoid> /msg osh_
[04:06] <ranunculoid> eamon@eamon-desktop:~$ sudo pvdisplay
[04:06] <ranunculoid> eamon@eamon-desktop:~$ sudo lvdisplay
[04:06] <ranunculoid>   No volume groups found
[04:07] <ranunculoid> eamon@eamon-desktop:~$ sudo vgdisplay
[04:07] <ranunculoid>   No volume groups found
[04:07] <ranunculoid> eamon@eamon-desktop:~$
[04:07] <abattoir> doppelganger_: be aware that there are different sizes for kmenu.png, make sure you either try replacing all, or for the size you want
[04:07] <doppelganger_> ok...  so i also changed whole taskbar color to black last night using that kbfx app
[04:07] <doppelganger_> but now..
[04:07] <abattoir> doppelganger_: it would also be wise to rename the old one as kmenu.png.old, so you could use it later, if you want
[04:07] <doppelganger_> any open windows' text is also black
[04:07] <abattoir> doppelganger_: window title?
[04:08] <teknoprep> yo
[04:08] <teknoprep> how do i set the suid on a program
[04:08] <teknoprep> to root so a normal user runs it as root
[04:08] <teknoprep> smbmnt is what i want to do this on
[04:09] <Aji-Dahaka> man chmod
[04:09] <Aji-Dahaka> though you may want to use sudo instead
[04:10] <teknoprep> naw i didn't want to use sudo instead
[04:10] <teknoprep> if i wanted to use sudo
[04:10] <teknoprep> i would have used it
[04:10] <osh_> ranunculoid: no physical volume groups. then I don't think I can help you. sorry. I suspect you'll have to recreate your home-dir as a lvm, but that'll destroy the data. :-/
[04:11] <Aji-Dahaka> but chmod should explain it fine
[04:12] <teknoprep> i alrady fixed it
[04:12] <teknoprep> its been awhile since i set a suid and guid
[04:12] <teknoprep> sudo can't do everything omfg
[04:12] <Aji-Dahaka> really?
[04:12] <teknoprep> lol really
[04:12] <Aji-Dahaka> it can run programs as root but _with_ access control
[04:12] <v3ctor> it can't make me breakfast ;)
[04:13] <Aji-Dahaka> that's a proper superset of what suid bits can do
[04:13] <teknoprep> how do you run smbmnt while in smb4k ?
[04:13] <erikson> v3ctor: try sudo /cookeggs
[04:13] <teknoprep> so now while in smb4k i wanna run smbmnt
[04:13] <teknoprep> yes now stop it
[04:13] <teknoprep> it can't do everything
[04:14] <Aji-Dahaka> sure it can
[04:14] <teknoprep> i don't wnat to run smb4k as root
[04:14] <v3ctor> sudo: /cookeggs: command not found
[04:14] <teknoprep> i want to run it as the user i am logged in as
[04:14] <erikson> :) sorry
[04:14] <v3ctor> lol
[04:15] <Aji-Dahaka> oh, that smb4k
[04:15] <Aji-Dahaka> then yeah, you can run it with sudo
[04:15] <Aji-Dahaka> (might be on their faqs section)
[04:15] <teknoprep> ?
[04:15] <teknoprep> i don't want to run smb4k with sudo you moron
[04:15] <teknoprep> smbmnt is a prgram that is run when you mount something from inside of smb4k
[04:15] <Aji-Dahaka> I rather meant the program can run with sudo
[04:16] <Aji-Dahaka> it was a feature addition at some point
[04:16] <teknoprep> ?
[04:16] <Aji-Dahaka> went through my mailbox at least
[04:16] <Aji-Dahaka> they have sudo support
[04:16] <teknoprep> ?
[04:16] <doppelganger_> sorry, back again...  (UGH WORK)
[04:16] <Aji-Dahaka> was quite a while ago, though, that they added it
[04:17] <Aji-Dahaka> so maybe it's no longer on the release docs, not too sure
[04:17] <doppelganger_> so yeah, on my taskbar, now that i have it all black....   any fonts on the thing are black as well
[04:17] <Aji-Dahaka> might have been *ponder* .5.0 or so
[04:17] <Aji-Dahaka> kde-apps shows them having at least a .7.1 out
[04:17] <Aji-Dahaka> oops, nope ... still in their release notes
[04:17] <doppelganger_> any open windows' fonts on the taskbar are black and i can't see them for anything. I tried looking in "fonts"... but i don't see where to change taskbar colors
[04:18] <doppelganger_> *taskbar FONT colors
[04:18] <h3sp4wn> Anyone still have the progressive techno radio station stream still in their cool streams in amarok ?
[04:18] <teknoprep> aji
[04:18] <teknoprep> Aji-Dahaka: it only says mount and umount as sudo.. not smbmnt
[04:18] <teknoprep> but like i said... sudo can't do everything
[04:18] <doppelganger_> whoa, hey aegean, must've missed ya when i was away
[04:19] <teknoprep> not unless the programmer specificly puts support for sudo into the app
[04:19] <teknoprep> suid works no matter what
[04:20] <Aji-Dahaka> but with no access control at all unless you have ACL suid
[04:20] <h3sp4wn> When does sudo not work ? Other than web interfaces and gui stuff ?
[04:20] <Aji-Dahaka> (not sure if that exists in linux)
[04:20] <v3ctor> Aji-Dahaka: yes it does
[04:20] <v3ctor> nvm
[04:20] <Aji-Dahaka> :p
[04:20] <v3ctor> was thinking somehting else
[04:20] <Aji-Dahaka> I really should play with linux ACLs someday
[04:20] <h3sp4wn> selinux has better support for acl's
[04:21] <Aji-Dahaka> h3sp4wn: kernel patches?
[04:21] <teknoprep> Aji-Dahaka: yeah i just checked my settings to
[04:21] <h3sp4wn> http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/
[04:21] <teknoprep> Aji-Dahaka: so yeah suid is the way to go
[04:22] <BlankB> h3sp4wn: when you need to run a gui thingy with su you can use: kdesu
[04:22] <h3sp4wn> BlankB: I know
[04:22] <BlankB> h3sp4wn: gotcha.
[04:22] <h3sp4wn> BlankB: But I never do (don't think gui stuff should ever be run as root)
[04:23] <BlankB> h3sp4wn: the only thing i can think of would be system settings.
[04:24] <h3sp4wn> BlankB: That allows you to switch to administrator mode anyway though doesn't it (maybe using kdesu underneath but I don't know)
[04:25] <BlankB> h3sp4wn: that is correct.
[04:29] <Pupeno_> Kontact crashed and about 15 mails dissapeared from my imap inbox :(  and efectively, accessing it with Thunderbird shows no mail there. If somebody has any idea how to get those mails back, I'll be thankfull.
[04:30] <h3sp4wn> Pupeno_: With imap your mail should still be on the server
[04:31] <Pupeno_> h3sp4wn: it seems Kontact managed to delete them from the server, Thunderbird shows no mail there.
[04:32] <ranunculoid> If I add another line to fstab that points to /home will that merge the two partitions pointing there?
[04:33] <ranunculoid> probably not...
[04:33] <h3sp4wn> Pupeno_: I don't understand how that could happen sorry
[04:33] <Pupeno_> ranunculoid: no, it won't.
[04:34] <h3sp4wn> ranunculoid: You may want to investigate using unionfs
[04:35] <ranunculoid> h3sp4wn: unionfs isn't in apt-get:-(
[04:36] <h3sp4wn> ranunculoid: You need to find out what it is and understand how to use it (search google)
[04:37] <Aji-Dahaka> unionfs isn't in apt-get:-( <-- jeje
[04:38] <ranunculoid> h3sp4wn: Thanks
[04:38] <ranunculoid> Aji-Dahaka: What are you laughing at;-)
[04:41] <Aji-Dahaka> ranunculoid: nothing ... ;)
[04:42] <ranunculoid> unionfs has different versions for different kernels - how can I tell which kernel I have?
[04:42] <nik> *grml* "make" not installed?
[04:43] <Pupeno_> ranunculoid: uname -a
[04:43] <h3sp4wn> nik: Install build-essential
[04:43] <serenity> nik: sudp apt-get install build-essiantial(s,) i am not sure about the s
[04:43] <v3ctor> uname -r
[04:43] <nik> thx
[04:44] <h3sp4wn> ranunculoid: The modules should already be in the standard kubuntu kernel
[04:44] <serenity> but there aren't
[04:44] <v3ctor> it is on mine
[04:45] <serenity> Sysinfo for 'beyond-serenity': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Pentium III (Coppermine) at 864 MHz (1729 bogomips), HD: 53/110GB, RAM: 405/503MB, 86 proc's, 1.2h up
[04:48] <h3sp4wn> serenity: infobash is a bit better than sysinfo in my oppinion
[04:49] <serenity> h3sp4wn: infobash?
[04:50] <h3sp4wn> serenity: http://rebelhomicide.demon.nl/#infobash
[04:52] <h3sp4wn> CPU[AMD Athlon XP 2600+ clocked at 1913.231 Mhz]   Kernel[Linux 2.6.17.4-rt7-v1 i686]   Up[-4:14-]   Mem[-910.207/1003.56MB-]   HDD[-121GB(17%used)-]   Procs[-122-]   Client[Konversation 0.19] 
[04:52] <h3sp4wn> serenity: if you run it with -v you get even more stuff
[04:52] <serenity> h3sp4wn: sounds nice
[05:04] <coma> !fart
[05:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about fart - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:05] <coma> !yum
[05:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about yum - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:05] <Hawkwind> coma: STOP!
[05:05] <coma> !repository
[05:05] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:06] <Hawkwind> You were told that yesterday
[05:06] <coma> !easysource
[05:06] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:06] <Lynoure> !bot
[05:06] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:07] <Lynoure> coma: so you can access it other ways too, and not flood the channel
[05:07] <Hawkwind> He was told that several times yesterday as well.  Yet he continues to play with the bot in the channel
[05:08] <coma> i cant /msg
[05:08] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: I just downloaded that infobash script.  That's a pretty nice script
[05:08] <Hawkwind> coma: Register your nick and you can
[05:08] <coma> how do i do that?
[05:08] <Hawkwind> coma: /msg nickserv help
[05:09] <nalioth> !bot abuse
[05:09] <ubotu> Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot
[05:11] <coma> !/msg nickserv help
[05:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about /msg nickserv help - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:11] <Hawkwind> coma: Leave off the !   just:  /msg nickserv help
[05:11] <coma> : /msg nickserv help
[05:12] <v3ctor>  /msg nickserv help register
[05:12] <v3ctor> to be more specific
[05:12] <Hawkwind> Wow, it's truly not rocket science :P
[05:12] <abattoir> coma: you know the debian-bots are more fun, please go there
[05:12] <v3ctor> eww...keep that science voodoo away from me
[05:13] <abattoir> coma: if you go on doing this, you are going to get kicked and/or banned.
[05:13] <camilo> hi, anyone using the lastest kubuntu 1.4.1 packages ??
[05:13] <abattoir> camilo: you mean amarok?
[05:13] <coma> what im not doing anything wrong?
[05:14] <camilo> yeah, I mean amarok...
[05:14] <camilo> sorry
[05:14] <h3sp4wn> camilo: I am yes (and the progressive techno radio stream seems have been lost :/)
[05:14] <erikson> v3ctor: the easyubuntu worked well, i am now able to play dvds in mplayer
[05:14] <abattoir> coma: 1. playing w/ bots is not encouraged in this channel 2. it is a 'family' channel
[05:14] <boardom> Is there any particular reason why CPAN is completely unable to make in 6.06?
[05:15] <camilo> yeah but now you've the last.fm radio streaming ;)....
[05:15] <coma> ...i stopped playing ages ago and i havnt said anything uncouth?
[05:15] <h3sp4wn> boardom: It takes alot of messing around (and you end up with load of stuff in /usr/local)
[05:15] <camilo> do you know if the pacakages are being built with libnjb (creative nomad) support?
[05:15] <abattoir> coma: please stop it, you have been warned 3~4 times, thank you :)
[05:15] <h3sp4wn> boardom: Thats why I think perl should not be in the base system
[05:15] <boardom> h3sp4wn: solution being?
[05:16] <boardom> h3sp4wn: i'm losing my mind, no gcc, no make, nothing of any actual use
[05:16] <h3sp4wn> boardom: I can't remember - but I did get it working (now using edgy which has perl 5.8.8)
[05:16] <nalioth> coma: please don't fish for factoids in here, you may search the URL the bot gives you
[05:16] <boardom> is it perl 5.8.7 that's broekn? or just the kubuntu implementation of it
[05:16] <h3sp4wn> boardom: Install build-essential and you get make gcc and kernel headers
[05:16] <boardom> cause this is oolish
[05:16] <boardom> ko
[05:17] <coma> abattoir: i stoppped ages ago and havnt said anything unclean.....sorry
[05:17] <h3sp4wn> boardcom: cpan requires the latest stable of version of perl to work properly
[05:17] <boardom> hrmm... so i'd need to edit the repos in adept, to edgy?
[05:17] <boardom> in order to get the update
[05:18] <boardom> i'm so used to perl being easy.. hah
[05:18] <abattoir> coma: i understand, but lots of people come here for help, their messages might get lost amidst the spam... you can always play at #ubuntu-bots / #debian-bots, as long as you dont get kicked there ;)
[05:19] <grizzly> I did "enlightenment --replace" , now enlightenment talks about editing a few startup files. But which one are they?
[05:19] <boardom> h3sp4wn: it was the headers i think... works fine now with 5.8.7perl
[05:19] <boardom> is there any particular logic for not including build-essential in the main install?
[05:20] <boardom> or at least making it a bit more.... apparent that you're installing a crippled system
[05:20] <h3sp4wn> boardom: Try installing the ssh perl modules or something and you will end up with loads of stuff in /usr/local
[05:20] <ranunculoid> Guys how do I format a drive in ext3 from the command line? I fucked up my drive and it's complaining about bad superblock inode magic.
[05:20] <boardom> h3sp4wn: agreed.. cpan is a load of junk, but I don't see perl modules in adept like I would normally install them in FreeBSD, so i'll use what i have
[05:21] <charlie5> hello ... any idea's how i can make a smart boot manager (or grub or lilo) floppy which boots the Kubu install disk, without any keyboard/mouse interaction ?
[05:21] <h3sp4wn> boardom: cpan works perfectly if you have the latest version of perl
[05:22] <ranunculoid> I was using fdisk but that only writes the partition table. What do I use to actually format the drive in ext3?
[05:22] <camilo> to format from the command line you can use mkfs
[05:22] <ranunculoid> Thanks
[05:22] <coma> whatever you do dont ask ubotu
[05:28] <Distro^Junkie> who does the packaging of amarok ?
[05:30] <ranunculoid> I  added this line "/dev/hda4       /home/eamon/Movies           ext3    defaults        0       2" to fstab but when I navigate to the mount point it tells me only root can write to it. I dont understand, it's inside my home folder... How can I get it to work?
[05:30] <Hobbsee> Distro^Junkie: ah, kubuntu developers, kde developers?  why do you ask?
[05:31] <jpatrick> Distro^Junkie: cos he didn't know
[05:31] <jpatrick> oh that was for Hobbsee
[05:31] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: bleh.  get merging :P
[05:32] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: there is nothing to merge
[05:32] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: ahem.  there are still over 300 packages to merge.
[05:32] <teknoprep> hmmm
[05:33] <teknoprep> bunch of noobs
[05:33] <teknoprep> all of you
[05:33] <teknoprep> lol
[05:33] <nixternal> hahah Hobbsee
[05:33] <ubuntu> hallchen
[05:33] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: oh, I was looking at the outstanding list..
[05:33] <nixternal> everybody is a noob, even you
[05:33] <ubuntu> kann mir jemand kurz helfen Kubuntu zu installieren?
[05:33] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: yeah, they just made up "outstanding"
[05:33] <Hobbsee> !de
[05:33] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:33] <ubuntu> thx
[05:34] <tom-Bar> I have lost this file sources.list.plz send me
[05:34] <ubuntu> /join #kubuntu-de
[05:34] <Hobbsee> !repos > tom-Bar
[05:34] <Distro^Junkie> The following NEW packages will be installed... libexscalibar1 <--- amarok no longer uses this as it was gfor moodbar and its no longer maintained
[05:34] <nixternal> interesting Hobbsee,
[05:34] <nixternal> hehe
[05:34] <Hobbsee> Distro^Junkie: ahh...yes...they axed the moodbar, didnt they?
[05:34] <tom-Bar> ubuntu: why #kubuntu-de?
[05:34] <Distro^Junkie> for*
[05:34] <Distro^Junkie> yep they did
[05:34] <nixternal> he either spammed it, or hit space by mistake
[05:35] <Hobbsee> hit space, most likely
[05:35] <teknoprep> yo
[05:35] <teknoprep> wtf is the any key
[05:35] <teknoprep> i can't find it
[05:36] <osiris> lmao
[05:36] <teknoprep> whats so funny?
[05:36] <Hobbsee> Distro^Junkie: this is dapper?  which repo were you grabbing the packagse from?  kubuntu.org?
[05:37] <osiris> that means press any key.  as in it dont matter what key
[05:37] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: aww, all the kde packs there are boring
[05:37] <teknoprep> w0ot
[05:37] <Distro^Junkie> sorry I realized after I grapped the wrong repo
[05:37] <teknoprep> i got someone to answer me
[05:37] <teknoprep> haha
[05:37] <Distro^Junkie> grabbed*
[05:37] <Hobbsee> Distro^Junkie: ah :)
[05:38] <nixternal> hahahah
[05:39] <Hobbsee> nixternal: :P
[05:39] <nixternal> my IRC tabs in konvo got bigger, so i know what happened ;)
[05:41] <ajay> hello people!
[05:42] <ajay> brrring
[05:42] <v3ctor> hello ajay
[05:43] <Snake> Yo
[05:43] <jpatrick> Snake: Tu
[05:43] <ajay> hi v3ctor
[05:43] <ajay> hi Snake
[05:44] <Snake> jpatrick: whats goin down dawg
[05:44] <Snake> :P
[05:44] <jpatrick> Snake: not alot
[05:44] <erikson> hi ajay, Snake, jpatrick
[05:44] <Snake> sweet sweet
[05:44] <Snake> hi #kubuntu
[05:44] <Snake> :)
[05:44] <Snake> There that covers everyone
[05:44] <erikson> Snake <---lazy
[05:45] <Snake> erikson: You know it :)
[05:45] <Snake> im the kinda guy who rm -r *.jpg instead of deleting every one by hand ya kno
[05:45] <Snake> :P
[05:46] <erikson> gonna try burning a video as soon as it DLs...that will be the test whether i keep kubuntu or not
[05:47] <erikson> so far kubuntu seems to be the mosy complete linux distro I've used , program and support wise :)
[05:48] <ajay> erikson: yup
[05:48] <jpatrick> Snake: but then again you like doing "sudo rm -rf /"
[05:49] <erikson> I tried pclinuxos and it was really error prone ...especially synaptic,... and wasn't compatible with some of my hardware , and the ppl in the support chat had  attitude
[05:50] <Snake> jpatrick: And I lloved every minute of it :P
[05:50] <Snake> erikson: make sure you use K3B :)
[05:50] <Snake> <3<3<3 that program
[05:50] <erikson> yup ,will do Snake
[05:50] <ajay> erikson: why what happened?
[05:51] <ajay> pclos is not that bad
[05:51] <ajay> especially the mini edition
[05:51] <ajay> .93
[05:51] <Snake> pclos has one feature that absoultly rocks my sox.
[05:51] <Snake> The build live CD
[05:51] <ajay> Snake: :)
[05:51] <Snake> I LOVE that
[05:51] <erikson> I tried the 8500up vers , since my vid card is an elcheapo onboard ati xpress 200
[05:52] <teknoprep> man i notice alot of bugs with KDE
[05:52] <teknoprep> shit just crashes for no reason
[05:52] <teknoprep> WTF
[05:52] <teknoprep> gnome does not do this crap
[05:52] <erikson> well all their distros are live cds now anyway
[05:52] <Snake> ajay: given what your saying about pclos, I presume you know your way around the distro?
[05:52] <Snake> teknoprep: then go back to gnome? :)
[05:52] <teknoprep> lol
[05:53] <teknoprep> can i just install gnome on kubuntu?
[05:53] <ajay> well guys i have tried all the distro on the distrowatch list
[05:53] <ajay> and have been using linux for 5 yrs
[05:53] <teknoprep> what sudo apt-get install gnome ?
[05:53] <Snake> teknoprep: sudo apt-get install gnome-core
[05:53] <teknoprep> or is there a way to get ubuntu-desktop
[05:53] <Hobbsee> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:53] <Snake> You could get sudo apt-get installubuntu-desktop
[05:53] <ajay> Snake: yup i know my way :)
[05:53] <Snake> as well
[05:54] <erikson> same here ajay but I still consider myself a linux noob in many ways
[05:54] <ajay> erikson: yeah true
[05:54] <teknoprep> .
[05:54] <teknoprep> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:54] <teknoprep>   ubuntu-desktop: Depends: libglib2.0-data but it is not going to be installe
[05:54] <ajay> erikson: i had been using gentoo for 3 yrs :)
[05:54] <teknoprep> non linux noob
[05:54] <ajay> btw i am still 16 ;)
[05:54] <teknoprep> i am a linux desktop nubcake
[05:54] <Snake> ajay: Have you ever seen like, an OS that has the mklivecd function, but is completly stripped like, to the bone? I want to make my own specialize live CDs, and the closest I could get to a stripped one was the amarok live :(
[05:54] <ajay> teknoprep: lol
[05:54] <teknoprep> i never used a gui on linux before
[05:55] <Snake> ajay: I just want it to be like default KDE, and drivers, pretty much
[05:55] <erikson> ooooh gentoo... I heard horror stories about gentoo install procedure
[05:55] <ajay> Snake: well pclos mini is that only
[05:55] <teknoprep> gentoo OWNS
[05:55] <teknoprep> just takes a bit to install
[05:55] <ajay> erikson: its all crap . gentoo rocks
[05:55] <Snake> gentoos okau
[05:55] <Snake> okay**
[05:55] <h3sp4wn> Snake: There is one for making custom debian based distro's
[05:55] <teknoprep> plus you only have horror storries if you are a complete idiot and can't read the install manual
[05:55] <teknoprep> which is easy as hell
[05:55] <ajay> well guys btw i wanted to sahre something
[05:55] <Snake> h3sp4wn: what is it? Ive been looking for it
[05:55] <v3ctor> teknoprep: or when you try to install it on sparc system
[05:56] <teknoprep> so ifyou have horror stories or are talking to a person with them.. they are a complete idiot and you shouldn't listen to them anymore
[05:56] <teknoprep> sparc LOL
[05:56] <erikson> rocks ajay , how ?
[05:56] <ajay> i and 3 other guys are making a distro that will showcase every spaking new techonology from linux world like grid, cluster, ltsp and stuff
[05:56] <teknoprep> yeah i'll stick to my x86 systems
[05:56] <ajay> anyone interestedto participate
[05:56] <teknoprep> i work for a bank and we don't use anything but x86
[05:56] <teknoprep> and mainframe
[05:56] <jpatrick> erikson: so you've gone from football to linux? cool
[05:56] <ajay> erikson: every way, u can make it the way u want
[05:56] <v3ctor> i prefer the tried and true 64bit systems
[05:56] <teknoprep> 64bit isn't tried and true
[05:56] <v3ctor> um
[05:56] <v3ctor> yes
[05:56] <ajay> no one for my proposal?
[05:57] <Snake> LOL TRIED AND TRUE!?
[05:57] <Snake> ajay: If I knew linux better I would help :)
[05:57] <v3ctor> been used in production systems since like 93
[05:57] <Snake> ajay: but atm im pretty worthless :P
[05:57] <h3sp4wn> Snake: I will try and find it again
[05:57] <teknoprep> ajay what do you want?
[05:57] <ajay> Snake: well man u will learn a lot while making it ;)
[05:57] <ajay> teknoprep: scroll up buddy!
[05:57] <teknoprep> no
[05:57] <Snake> v3ctor: if 64 bit is tried and true, what is x86??
[05:57] <ajay> teknoprep: no scroll up or particiapte no?
[05:58] <v3ctor> x86 is for desktop toys
[05:58] <teknoprep> why make a linux distro?
[05:58] <teknoprep> what is your core going to be?
[05:58] <teknoprep> redhat? debian?
[05:58] <ajay> teknoprep: debian or gentoo
[05:58] <teknoprep> plus linux clustering sucks
[05:58] <teknoprep> solaris and bsd have better cluster solutions
[05:58] <Snake> bsd *twitch*
[05:58] <teknoprep> bsd OWNS YOU
[05:58] <erikson> v3ctor: I tried the dapper 64 bit version ...lotta stuff won't work on it , so I switched to the 32 bit and so far all the progs that were giving me trouble are working very well '
[05:58] <teknoprep> as a server you can't beat it
[05:59] <h3sp4wn> Not really there are plenty of high performance linux based clusters
[05:59] <teknoprep> especially obsd
[05:59] <Snake> teknoprep: indeed it does, I couldnt even get FreeBSD To install, and this coming from a guy who got gento to work :P
[05:59] <teknoprep> ok i want you to load balance 2 firewalls with iptables
[05:59] <v3ctor> erikson: sorry...don't confuse 64bit systems with the sorry intel-based stuff that has recently come out
[05:59] <teknoprep> go ahead .. doit for free with open source
[05:59] <afm\colo> teknoprep: oh really? that's why all the ppl i know use linux-ha and drbd and stuff for clustering, right? :>
[05:59] <afm\colo> in fields where they LIKE going proprietary
[05:59] <afm\colo> but can't do with GNU/Linux
[05:59] <teknoprep> afm\colo: exactly
[06:00] <teknoprep> afm\colo: you can't use any opensource technology to cluster 2 linux iptables firewalls
[06:00] <teknoprep> there is nothing to sync up the connection tracking tables
[06:00] <erikson>  v3ctor, AMD64 CPU here , so I tried dapper 64 bit thinking it would run better ...I was wrong
[06:00] <teknoprep> no with PF you can use PFSYNC
[06:00] <teknoprep> capr
[06:00] <teknoprep> carp even
[06:00] <teknoprep> bang you have load balancing firewalls
[06:01] <v3ctor> erikson: real chip makers have t least 10 years more 64bit experience than  intel/amd
[06:01] <v3ctor> h3sp4wn: you can get them much cheaper than that
[06:01] <afm\colo> v3ctor: oh please, Intel is the single most important "chipmaker" in the world
[06:01] <v3ctor> lol
[06:01] <h3sp4wn> v3ctor: I want 2 dual core opterons
[06:02] <teknoprep> afm\colo: thats like saying... microsoft is the single most important software developer becuase the produce the most software
[06:02] <erikson> v3ctor: whaddya mean?
[06:02] <teknoprep> afm\colo: intel is the most important becuase they make the chips?
[06:02] <v3ctor> afm\colo: if that is true then why do the most important servers in the wolrd not use thier chips :p
[06:02] <h3sp4wn> v3ctor: Should last me ten years (with sun's build quality which I like)
[06:02] <teknoprep> afm\colo: yeah ok
[06:02] <ajay> gus tell me a link to paste text
[06:02] <ajay> pastebin sucks
[06:02] <v3ctor> i want  the 8 core niagra chip
[06:02] <teknoprep> afm\colo: actually MainFrame has been doing it better and longer then any of these companies
[06:02] <afm\colo> v3ctor: if you'd actually take a look at market share for enterprise grade computing
[06:02] <teknoprep> afm\colo: 99% of the banks all over the world don't trust Intel / MS / Unix... they trust MainFrame
[06:02] <afm\colo> you'd notice that intel has the lead there as well
[06:03] <afm\colo> AMD is catching up
[06:03] <teknoprep> afm\colo: take your statement and shove it now , ok?
[06:03] <ajay> any link to paste text
[06:03] <ajay> brring?
[06:03] <afm\colo> rafb.net/paste
[06:03] <v3ctor> afm\colo: they don't count real chips in that survey then
[06:03] <abattoir> !paste
[06:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:03] <h3sp4wn> teknoprep: The only bank I have ever worked for was nearly all sun
[06:03] <h3sp4wn> v3ctor: And sybase
[06:03] <afm\colo> teknoprep: mainframe computing is a whole different field of operation than "ordinary" computing stuff
[06:03] <teknoprep> h3sp4wn: what bank?
[06:04] <teknoprep> h3sp4wn: and they probably ran mini-mainframe which runs on solaris
[06:04] <erikson> what's solaris like , anyone here everused it ?
[06:04] <v3ctor> i use it daily
[06:04] <v3ctor> it is awsome
[06:04] <afm\colo> i've used SunOS 5.8
[06:04] <teknoprep> erikson: it owns.. get opensolaris to try it out
[06:05] <afm\colo> the userland just sucks
[06:05] <afm\colo> gimme GNu any time
[06:05] <v3ctor> 8 sucked for user
[06:05] <afm\colo> s/u/U/
[06:05] <teknoprep> afm\colo:  not if you are used to it
[06:05] <v3ctor> 9 and higher are much better for useland
[06:05] <ajayc> teknoprep: got pm?
[06:05] <erikson> can I put it on a seperate partition, with linux and windows ?
[06:06] <v3ctor> 9 has a large set of GNu tools
[06:06] <teknoprep> yeah wtf?
[06:06] <teknoprep> STOP IT
[06:06] <teknoprep> omfg wtf
[06:06] <ajayc> teknoprep: stop wat i pasted the whole thing :)
[06:08] <Skrot> ~dualhead
[06:08] <teknoprep> you pasted it twice lol
[06:08] <Skrot> Anyone know of a good (k)ubuntu dualhead howto?
[06:09] <teknoprep> hmm
[06:09] <ajayc> anyone wanna read the philosophy of the distro i am making?
[06:09] <teknoprep> its pretty much self explantory
[06:09] <teknoprep> goto system settings
[06:09] <teknoprep> click display
[06:10] <teknoprep> enter adminitor mode
[06:10] <teknoprep> and doit
[06:10] <teknoprep> its in the hardware section
[06:12] <teknoprep> hmm
[06:13] <Cntryboy> last night I compiled f4l, does it put the binary file in the bin folder with in the folders I first gzip2 the file to?
[06:14] <teknoprep> hmm
[06:14] <teknoprep> this sucks
[06:14] <teknoprep> i can't install ubuntu-desktop
[06:14] <teknoprep> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:14] <teknoprep>   ubuntu-desktop: Depends: libglib2.0-data but it is not going to be installed
[06:14] <corin> abattoir or crimsun?  anybody here?
[06:16] <richardh_> Hi...anyone else have problems with cdrecord within K3b on dapper?
[06:17] <teknoprep> nope
[06:17] <teknoprep> k3b owns
[06:17] <teknoprep> hey
[06:18] <teknoprep> how the f do i install ubuntu-desktop?
[06:18] <richardh_> I used the setup program to distrbute the necessary rights, but cdrecord still doesn't allow me to burn
[06:18] <teknoprep> i am in kubuntu
[06:18] <ColonelKernel> easy
[06:18] <ColonelKernel> insert livecd,
[06:18] <ColonelKernel> click the install icon on desktop
[06:19] <ColonelKernel> did that help teknoprep?
[06:19] <Cntryboy> Anyone ever use f4l?
[06:19] <Hawkwind> teknoprep: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:20] <ColonelKernel> or that :D
[06:20] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: sound works?
[06:20] <ColonelKernel> no
[06:20] <ColonelKernel> not even a bloop
[06:20] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: open up kmix again
[06:20] <ColonelKernel> mmkay
[06:20] <ColonelKernel> its open
[06:21] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: someone was here earlier today; when he enabled input options, his sound started working...
[06:21] <ColonelKernel> i ok all of them?
[06:21] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: make sure all the light in all the tabs are on, and the sliders are full ;)
[06:21] <ColonelKernel> it won't let me! when i click "CD" line is not lighted
[06:22] <ColonelKernel> wait red or green lights
[06:22] <ColonelKernel> sorry
[06:22] <abattoir> red is generally for recording(input) green is when the input is played out in your speakers..
[06:23] <ColonelKernel> ok. all are enabled and turned up
[06:23] <Cntryboy> hrmmm
[06:23] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: try playing something 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*.wav'
[06:24] <ColonelKernel> attempted, no sound :(
[06:25] <qwertybob> can i change my processor to amd 64 and still run my kubuntu32 installed?
[06:25] <Sikon> yes
[06:25] <boardom> Assuming for the second i'm an idiot... how would I go about getting the most recent version of clamav (is there an unstable repos)?
[06:25] <ColonelKernel> should be able to, as 32 is compatible with 64 bit processor...
[06:25] <Sikon> I'm running kubuntu-i386 on an Athlon 64 riht now
[06:26] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: what now?
[06:26] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: ok, i've run out of ideas... maybe time to experiment...
[06:26] <ColonelKernel> oh goody...
[06:26] <qwertybob> Sikon: great, maybe you can help me, My nvidia seems to no longer work now, vesa does not at all
[06:26] <ColonelKernel> anything :D
[06:26] <Sikon> qwertybob> did you install the proprietary NVIDIA driver?
[06:26] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: aah, ok...in the output tab, switch everything off, then switch only wave one, see if it plays
[06:26] <qwertybob> Sikon: somehwow the new mobo and chip casued some problem
[06:26] <Hawkwind> boardom: If you have multiverse and universe listed as sources, then sudo apt-get install clamav will get you the latest version
[06:27] <ColonelKernel> not master right?
[06:27] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: then switch on master... see if it plays
[06:27] <Sikon> my problem is, I installed Xgl/Compiz and it works fine, but the Show Desktop button no longer works
[06:27] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: yes, first
[06:27] <ColonelKernel> ok
[06:27] <qwertybob> Sikon: everything was working when i had the old mobo with amd 32
[06:27] <Sikon> (I use compiz-gnome with KDE because compiz-kde doesn't work properly)
[06:27] <boardom> Hawkwind: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[06:27] <ColonelKernel> i don't see wave
[06:27] <ColonelKernel> odd
[06:27] <boardom> Hawkwind: so that should get me most recent ver?
[06:27] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: try experimenting, switch one off, swith the other on... sorry might just be a wild-goose chase
[06:28] <ColonelKernel> lol
[06:28] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: brb, dinner :)
[06:28] <ColonelKernel> i'll give it s go
[06:28] <qwertybob> Sikon: i tried reconfigure x dpkg
[06:28] <teknoprep> hmmm
[06:28] <teknoprep> anyone on the idea
[06:28] <teknoprep> why can't i install ubuntu-desktop
[06:28] <teknoprep> i have a dependicy error
[06:28] <qwertybob> Sikon: should i boot into rescue mode maybe
[06:28] <qwertybob> im running zenwalk live just now
[06:29] <Sikon> qwertybob> what exactly doesn't work? does X start at all?
[06:30] <qwertybob> Sikon: it starts but there are big white spaces, cant see well
[06:30] <Sikon> are you starting pure X or GNOME/KDE?
[06:30] <qwertybob> Sikon: changing to vesa, gives no screens found
[06:30] <Sikon> and can I have a screenshot?
[06:30] <anders_> how do i install: GEDIT ?
[06:31] <Sikon> the driver in xorg.conf is currently "nvidia"?
[06:31] <qwertybob> Sikon: im starting kde,
[06:31] <fre1> anders_: try 'sudo apt-get install gedit' in a terminal
[06:31] <qwertybob> sorry not sure if your talking to me
[06:31] <Sikon> qwertybob> yes, to you
[06:32] <Sikon> you say you tried to change the driver to vesa, but what was it before?
[06:32] <qwertybob> Sikon: im in zenlive casue i cant work in kubutu
[06:32] <qwertybob> Sikon: before it was nvidia all worked on 6600 gt
[06:32] <Sikon> try changing it to nv
[06:32] <ColonelKernel> !info wolfenstein
[06:32] <ubotu> Package wolfenstein does not exist in dapper
[06:32] <ColonelKernel> !info wolfenstein-enemy-territory
[06:32] <ubotu> Package wolfenstein-enemy-territory does not exist in dapper
[06:32] <Sikon> it's a built-in X driver with no hardware acceleration
[06:32] <anders_> fre1: it still not work
[06:32] <qwertybob> Sikon: i did that , no screens found, its the same as vesa
[06:32] <ColonelKernel> damn
[06:32] <Sikon> hmm
[06:33] <Sikon> can you photo the screen with the "big white spaces"?
[06:33] <qwertybob> Sikon: im thinking of reinstalling the nvidia stuff
[06:34] <qwertybob> Sikon: i changed the mobo and the cpu to a  AMD sempron 64
[06:34] <fre1> q. is there a faq explaining how to get help ? like providing information. describing the problem with precision and accuracy as much as possible, etc.. ?
[06:34] <Sikon> yes, you can try reinstalling the NVIDIA driver
[06:34] <qwertybob> Sikon: thanks anyway, im going to rescue mode, reinstall everything graphic, reconfigure
[06:34] <fre1> something i could point people when they tell me 'it doesnt work' and nothing more :)
[06:35] <Sikon> rescue mode?
[06:35] <fre1> anders_: providing more info would help you getting more help
[06:35] <qwertybob> Sikon: in kubuntu yes
[06:35] <Sikon> meh, why can't you just switch to a console and kill X?
[06:35] <qwertybob> Sikon: i can do that i guess
[06:35] <anders_> I just did the update
[06:35] <qwertybob> just want to be sure its clean
[06:35] <anders_> but when i shall download gedit it says
[06:35] <anders_> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[06:36] <Sikon> did you run it as root?
[06:36] <anders_> yes!
[06:36] <Sikon> sudo, I mean
[06:36] <Sikon> hmm, strange
[06:36] <ColonelKernel> is a .run file an installer in linux?
[06:36] <anders_> ops (a) i had a synaptic :O
[06:38] <claudio_> ciao
[06:38] <claudio_> a tutti
[06:39] <claudio_> italiani???
[06:39] <gnomefreak> !it
[06:39] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:39] <teknoprep> OMFG
[06:39] <teknoprep> does anyone else have this problem.. where they can't install apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:40] <ColonelKernel> nope... i just have no bloody sound
[06:40] <teknoprep> is there like a deny list for apt-get ?
[06:42] <teknoprep> dpkg -l libglib*
[06:42] <teknoprep> shows
[06:42] <teknoprep> un  libglib2.0-data    <none>             (no description available)
[06:42] <teknoprep> wtf is the un?
[06:42] <gnomefreak> not installed )man dpkg)
[06:42] <gnomefreak> (man dpkg)
[06:43] <gnomefreak> teknoprep: install it
[06:43] <teknoprep> cn't
[06:43] <teknoprep> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:43] <teknoprep>   libglib2.0-data: Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.10.2-1ubuntu3) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[06:43] <gnomefreak> teknoprep: sudo apt-get -f install   <<< type that only
[06:44] <teknoprep> nothing fixed
[06:44] <gnomefreak> teknoprep: what does uname -r say
[06:45] <teknoprep> 2.6.15-26-386
[06:46] <gnomefreak> teknoprep: get the lib from packages.ubuntu.com
[06:46] <teknoprep> hmmm
[06:46] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: back yet?
[06:46] <teknoprep> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[06:46] <teknoprep> ?
[06:46] <gnomefreak> yes
[06:47] <ColonelKernel> anyone tell me how to install a .run file? all it does is open up in Kate
[06:47] <Chousuke> run it with sh
[06:47] <Chousuke> in terminal
[06:48] <ColonelKernel> ok
[06:48] <Chousuke> "sh whatever.run"
[06:48] <ColonelKernel> with the directory?
[06:49] <Chousuke> doesn't matter, as long as it finds the file.
[06:49] <ColonelKernel> i got some kinda error
[06:50] <ColonelKernel> shared libraries?
[06:50] <teknoprep> YAY
[06:50] <teknoprep> its installing
[06:50] <teknoprep> w0ot
[06:50] <teknoprep> lol
[06:51] <ColonelKernel> lol
[06:51] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: back fromdinner yet?
[06:51] <BlankB> !xen
[06:51] <ubotu> xen is a a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/
[06:52] <teknoprep> wow this is an awesome fucking stream... http://64.62.253.223:8040
[06:52] <BlankB> Is there a repo that has Xen ready to go?
[06:52] <teknoprep> just to hook you guys up
[06:52] <ColonelKernel> !sh
[06:52] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:52] <ColonelKernel> !de
[06:52] <teknoprep> ksg
[06:52] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:53] <teknoprep> ksh even
[06:53] <teknoprep> tsh even
[06:53] <ColonelKernel> df
[06:53] <ColonelKernel> oops
[06:55] <fre1> about xen, what is this 'Intel VTX hardware' they are talking about ?
[06:55] <fre1> how do you check you got this or not ?
[06:55] <teknoprep> hmmm
[06:58] <mrbojanglie> hey, just curious if there are any good kde modifications (for convenience/usability etc)
[06:59] <Admiral_proFTW> i dont know if its much of a mod, but I like Katapult
[06:59] <teknoprep> omfg
[06:59] <ColonelKernel> !amarok
[06:59] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[06:59] <teknoprep> this is nice now
[07:00] <Admiral_proFTW> they released a new verison?
[07:00] <ColonelKernel> anybody know how to fix sound on SiS SI7012?
[07:01] <Admiral_proFTW> mrbojanglie, check out Katapult, its very useful
[07:01] <fre1> yep good stuff
[07:05] <jc-denton> hi all
[07:05] <jc-denton> can i use xgl with kubuntu/kde?
[07:05] <ColonelKernel> hey
[07:06] <Admiral_proFTW> jc-denton, i think you can
[07:06] <omeow> I SPEEL MY DRINK
[07:06] <jc-denton> it will work similar to gnome
[07:07] <jc-denton> is there a howto for it?
[07:08] <Admiral_proFTW> I don't know, I haven't used it
[07:08] <ColonelKernel> anybody know why my sound doesn't work?
[07:08] <Admiral_proFTW> !xgl
[07:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:08] <jc-denton> is xgl realted to gnome
[07:08] <Admiral_proFTW> jc-denton, check those links out
[07:08] <teknoprep> w0ot
[07:08] <teknoprep> hmm
[07:08] <Admiral_proFTW> no, its a graphical manager
[07:09] <jc-denton> thx
[07:09] <teknoprep> if you are just using kde
[07:09] <teknoprep> why use all that extra crap?
[07:09] <teknoprep> just enable composite in the xorg.conf and inside of kde
[07:09] <Admiral_proFTW> teknoprep, its eye candy
[07:09] <ColonelKernel> If abattoir gets back, tell him i'll brb
[07:09] <teknoprep> Admiral_proFTW: yeah but you can do all that within kde itself
[07:10] <teknoprep> http://wowpvp.hotpo.org/screenshot1.png
[07:10] <jc-denton> can i play 3d games when using xgl?
[07:10] <jc-denton> url doe not work
[07:11] <teknoprep>  http://wowpvp.hopto.org/snapshot1.png
[07:11] <teknoprep> i just setup shadows and more transparencies also
[07:11] <teknoprep> inactive windows are set to 80% transperencies
[07:11] <jc-denton> looks nice so far
[07:11] <teknoprep> while my konsole window has no border.. no menu. no tabs.. and is set to 75% active trans and 25% inactive
[07:12] <jc-denton> will i be able to have the same effects as on gnome?
[07:12] <Admiral_proFTW> teknoprep, that link didnt work
[07:12] <teknoprep> moving windows are set to 25% trans
[07:12] <teknoprep> try the 2nd link
[07:12] <jc-denton> oooOO
[07:12] <jc-denton> u don't use amark
[07:12] <erikson> hhmm iputils-tracepath won't worj for some reason .
[07:12] <teknoprep> i do
[07:12] <teknoprep> i just set it up
[07:12] <teknoprep> but i like xmms
[07:12] <jc-denton> i too
[07:12] <jc-denton> but amarok more
[07:12] <jc-denton> :D
[07:13] <teknoprep> does amarok handle aac+ streams?
[07:13] <jc-denton> no ide
[07:13] <teknoprep> omfg
[07:13] <teknoprep> it does
[07:13] <teknoprep> w0ot
[07:13] <teknoprep> http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=788585&file=filename.pls
[07:13] <teknoprep> w0ot
[07:14] <jaro> ?
[07:14] <jaro> what does ?
[07:15] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:16] <jaro> lol
[07:16] <denis_> hey. I'm installing xmms on Kubuntu, but when i type ./configure, it gives me a bunch of errors.
[07:16] <denis_> and when i type make or smthng it doesnt recognize it as a command
[07:16] <denis_> what am i doing wrong?
[07:18] <centyx> denis_: why not just install the binary package?
[07:18] <timonator> how do i get a newer wine version with adept?
[07:18] <erikson> or use synaptic
[07:19] <erikson> or adept
[07:19] <centyx> or apt-get ;)
[07:19] <h3sp4wn> timonator: There is a bleeding edgy wine repository I can't remember where it is though
[07:19] <timonator> the wine appdb says that someone with ubuntu 6.06 (same version as me) tested GTA: SA with wine 0.9.16, but adept nly shows version 0.9.9
[07:19] <timonator> h3sp4wn: any hints where to look for it?
[07:20] <denis_> how do i do this centryx?
[07:20] <h3sp4wn> google
[07:20] <erikson> denis_: xmms should be easy to install with a pkg manager
[07:20] <timonator> oke
[07:20] <denis_> im totally new to this. whats a package manager. hah
[07:20] <denis_> sorry im a total newb ;|
[07:20] <centyx> denis_: click on your K menu icon, then click on add/remove programs
[07:20] <h3sp4wn> timonator: budgetdedicated is part of the name I think
[07:21] <erikson> lookin the k-menu/system , click on "adept"
[07:21] <centyx> #deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[07:21] <Admiral_proFTW> a package is something you can install on your computer, like a programs, an applet (for your panel), a library, etc
[07:21] <Cntryboy> I compiled f4l flash maker last night, now in the dir I tar the bz2 to and make install, there is now an executeble file name f4l, and to start it I can click on it or in term type ./f4l. Is this the binary? how can I install this to be in icon listings
[07:22] <Admiral_proFTW> a package manager helps you install things without doing it in a terminal
[07:22] <centyx> timonator: you get that?
[07:22] <denis_> ah I see.
[07:22] <denis_> ok i am in the adept installer thing
[07:22] <denis_> what next?
[07:22] <Admiral_proFTW> so you aren't typinf "sudo apt-get install amarok"
[07:22] <teknoprep> w0ot
[07:22] <teknoprep> fixed this crap up
[07:22] <timonator> centyx: thanks, got it
[07:22] <teknoprep> http://wowpvp.hopto.org/snapshot1.png
[07:23] <Admiral_proFTW> denis_, plus you can search for packages easier in a package manager
[07:23] <teknoprep> http://wowpvp.hopto.org/snapshot2.png
[07:23] <denis_> oki.... so i'm trying to instal xmms and im in the package manager thing.
[07:23] <erikson> denis_: find search and type xmms
[07:23] <denis_> it says "no results"
[07:23] <Admiral_proFTW> ah
[07:23] <centyx> once you know how, it's really easier to do apt-cache search | grep whatever
[07:23] <teknoprep> sudo apt-get install xmms
[07:23] <Admiral_proFTW> you need to add repositories maybe
[07:23] <teknoprep> exit out of the package manager
[07:23] <teknoprep> open up konsole
[07:24] <teknoprep> type -> sudo apt-get install xmms
[07:24] <teknoprep> if that does not work.... sudo apt-get update
[07:24] <teknoprep> then install xmms
[07:24] <v3ctor> teknoprep: nice
[07:24] <Cntryboy> dang can't anyone help me, ive been here all morning trying to find this out
[07:24] <erikson> wow, no xmms in adept...what distro is he using?
[07:24] <denis_> kubuntu
[07:24] <teknoprep> Cntryboy: what
[07:24] <v3ctor> teknoprep: why do you have 4 virtual desktops if you only use one?
[07:24] <centyx> erikson: depends what you tell it to search in
[07:25] <Cntryboy> teknoprep: I compiled f4l flash maker last night, now in the dir I tar the bz2 to and make install, there is now an executeble file name f4l, and to start it I can click on it or in term type ./f4l. Is this the binary? how can I install this to be in icon listings
[07:25] <teknoprep> erikson: he probably has to selct the package distrubtions to all
[07:25] <centyx> erikson: adept searches only for kde apps by default
[07:25] <teknoprep> Cntryboy: becuase i do use 2 3 and 4 for other things.. but i am not on my work vpn right now
[07:25] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: You back yet?
[07:25] <samuli> Anyone care to anwer few questions about natting?
[07:25] <teknoprep> s/ Cntryboy / v3ctor
[07:25] <Cntryboy> ?
[07:26] <samuli> what should I put for subnetmask, gateway and other computers dns?
[07:26] <teknoprep> v3ctor:  becuase i do use 2 3 and 4 for other things.. but i am not on my work vpn right now
[07:26] <h3sp4wn> samuli: You only should ever need to nat once (just static routes other than that)
[07:26] <v3ctor> was talking about your screenshot
[07:26] <ColonelKernel> samuli: yes. just click DHCP
[07:26] <v3ctor> teknoprep: cool
[07:26] <teknoprep> Cntryboy: you want f4l to be an icon?
[07:26] <samuli> ColonelKernel, dhcp doesn't work for me.
[07:26] <v3ctor> just wondered
[07:26] <ColonelKernel> samuli: is this a home lan?
[07:26] <Admiral_proFTW> erikson, might be the repositories
[07:26] <samuli> ColonelKernel, yeah.
[07:26] <teknoprep> Cntryboy: what dir is f4l in?
[07:26] <ColonelKernel> samuli: DSL?
[07:27] <samuli> dhcp-server on my ubuntu-box wont start so dhcp is out.
[07:27] <erikson> wonder if denis updated adept when he first logged on
[07:27] <denis_> now i have a question. Traditionally if there's a windows media player "plugin" in windows that loads an asx file or smthng inside the webpage
[07:27] <ColonelKernel> samuli: aha.  that's your first problem
[07:27] <denis_> what would do that on linux? xmms
[07:27] <denis_> ?
[07:27] <Cntryboy> the f4l-0.2.1 the one that I tar bz2, but its not in the tar file, just after I compiled
[07:27] <teknoprep> Cntryboy: if you want help..you are going to have to type much faster then this.. i don't wait around for ppl very long
[07:27] <timonator> i want to get more space available on my ext3 filesystem by reducing the amount of reserved space. is tune2fs -m what i want?
[07:27] <h3sp4wn> samuli: Try using dnsmasq its really easy to setup
[07:27] <samuli> ColonelKernel, I don't need dhcp. I'm happy with static ip's.
[07:27] <teknoprep> Cntryboy: wtf are you talking about
[07:27] <teknoprep> Cntryboy: did you install f4l or not?
[07:27] <Cntryboy> I compiled it yes
[07:27] <teknoprep> Cntryboy: can you run it from a terminal window or not?
[07:28] <Cntryboy> and if I click on the exe it works
[07:28] <ColonelKernel> samuli: then your gonna need to look on the hosting box and find all that information, i.e., the masks and DNS and all that
[07:28] <Cntryboy> but where did it install it to
[07:28] <teknoprep> Cntryboy: its an exe ?
[07:28] <MehAdult> samuli: What's your question? I have some networking experience and have been through a year of college on networking.
[07:28] <Cntryboy> its an executable file
[07:28] <Cntryboy> blue gear
[07:28] <teknoprep> Cntryboy: lol ok
[07:28] <Admiral_proFTW> denis_, do you have the multi verse added
[07:28] <Cntryboy> that gets the program working
[07:28] <samuli> h3sp4wn, thanks, but what about the gateway addresses etc. I want to know if I have them set-up right.
[07:28] <teknoprep> Cntryboy: where is this blue gear at?
[07:28] <Cntryboy> but i wanna know where it installed it to
[07:28] <denis_> i have no cluse admiral
[07:28] <Cntryboy> and where the binary is
[07:28] <teknoprep> Cntryboy: on your desktop ?
[07:28] <denis_> how do i check?
[07:28] <Cntryboy> in that f4l-0.2.1 folder
[07:28] <Admiral_proFTW> go to adept
[07:28] <Cntryboy> the folder that
[07:28] <Cntryboy> i untared the files 2
[07:28] <samuli> h3sp4wn, do they even matter?
[07:29] <teknoprep> Cntryboy: right click the blue gear and goto properties
[07:29] <Cntryboy> but it wasn't there b4 I compiled
[07:29] <denis_> ok i'm in adept
[07:29] <ColonelKernel> samuli, how do you get the red ColonelKernel:?  I can't figure it out
[07:29] <Cntryboy> its in a bin folder
[07:29] <h3sp4wn> samuli: Set the gateway address to the internal interface of your router (or gateway)
[07:29] <teknoprep> Cntryboy: put your sentences on one line
[07:29] <Admiral_proFTW> uh from them, go to manage reposetories
[07:29] <Cntryboy> just says f4l
[07:29] <denis_> woah admiral i dont see anything saying "manage reposetories
[07:30] <samuli> h3sp4wn, internal interface? I have ubutun with two ethernet cards and a xbox.
[07:30] <Admiral_proFTW> hmm
[07:30] <Admiral_proFTW> hold on
[07:30] <h3sp4wn> samuli: Presumable one does to a cable modem and one to the xbox ?
[07:31] <samuli> h3sp4wn, no, I have lan-connection to internet.
[07:31] <Admiral_proFTW> denis_, on dapper?
[07:31] <centyx> where do you manage your repositories in kde?
[07:31] <centyx> i always edit sources.list by hand
[07:31] <centyx> but the gui would be a good thing to know
[07:31] <denis_> i'm confused.
[07:31] <samuli> h3sp4wn, my internet-card is set-up with 195.148.29.254 gateway, should I put the same to the on to local network?
[07:31] <centyx> for when ppl ask
[07:31] <denis_> lol
[07:32] <Cntryboy> teknoprep:?
[07:32] <h3sp4wn> samuli: Well the external interface is the one connected to the internet the internal is the other
[07:32] <Admiral_proFTW> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[07:32] <h3sp4wn> samuli: No the local network card doesn't need a gateway
[07:32] <Admiral_proFTW> from the teminal
[07:32] <centyx> ah.
[07:32] <h3sp4wn> samuli: I take it you have net.ipv4.conf.default.forwarding=1 (unhashed in /etc/sysctl.conf)
[07:32] <Admiral_proFTW> denis_, open up that link
[07:32] <teknoprep> Cntryboy: ?
[07:33] <Cntryboy> nm screw it
[07:33] <Cntryboy> later all
[07:33] <Admiral_proFTW> let me know if you're having problems
[07:33] <teknoprep> Cntryboy: put my name at the begging of everything you ask me
[07:33] <centyx> back to work
[07:33] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: is there an easier way to do that?
[07:33] <denis_> ok 1 sec.
[07:33] <steveire> I can get the computer illiterate to connect to freenode through a browser without using java?
[07:33] <teknoprep> cntryboy = coutry idiot
[07:33] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: ?
[07:33] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: like automatically?
[07:33] <samuli> h3sp4wn, It's supposed to be, right?
[07:33] <ColonelKernel> taknoprep: in red like you just did ^^
[07:33] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: type tek then hit tab
[07:33] <ColonelKernel> tek
[07:33] <h3sp4wn> samuli: post-up /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ath0 -j MASQUERADE (you just need a line that in /etc/network/interfaces for the nat)
[07:33] <teknoprep> tek then tab
[07:33] <ColonelKernel> ah
[07:33] <ColonelKernel> i'm an IRC n00b
[07:33] <ColonelKernel> thank you
[07:34] <teknoprep> then you can hit tab to bring up my name again
[07:34] <ColonelKernel> excellent :D
[07:34] <teknoprep> without anything ebcuase you are the last person
[07:34] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: see
[07:34] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep:  thank you
[07:34] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: just hit tab
[07:34] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: i likey
[07:34] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: its easy
[07:34] <h3sp4wn> samuli: You need that line unhashed or you can't forward packets between interfaces
[07:34] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: lol
[07:34] <baseball0081> !help
[07:34] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: you can also use tab completion in linux shell
[07:34] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:34] <Admiral_proFTW> !seen PyroMithrandir
[07:34] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: i knew that
[07:34] <ubotu> I haven't seen PyroMithrandir recently
[07:34] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: typ ifco <tab>
[07:34] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: handy :D
[07:34] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: yup
[07:34] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: yeah
[07:34] <samuli> should ath0 be my external or internal interface?
[07:34] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: can u help me maybe maybe?
[07:34] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: with sound problem?
[07:35] <h3sp4wn> samuli: external
[07:35] <h3sp4wn> samuli: Then the xbox should use its gatway as the internal address
[07:36] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: back?
[07:36] <ColonelKernel> crimsun: here?
[07:36] <Admiral_proFTW> denis_, PM me or find me in #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:37] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: you here?
[07:37] <ColonelKernel> awww........
[07:37] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: of course
[07:37] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: i never leave
[07:38] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: less my power goes out again
[07:38] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: LoL can u help me man?
[07:38] <teknoprep> why doesn't glxgears give up info on fps anymore?
[07:38] <samuli> h3sp4wn, you lost me at that.. It's gateway as internal address? so If my external interface is set up 195.148.254 gateway I should make that my xbox ip-address?
[07:38] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: sure
[07:38] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: my sound doesn't work at all. hasn't on any Linux distro
[07:38] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: i feel bad for you
[07:39] <synie> hello ... is it possible to compile a program against a other lib, that is on the current machine ? i got glic 2.3 on my notebook. and i also got a mini-itx with flashcard without gcc/cc or something. so i can't compile a program on it. but there is glibc 2.2.4 on it. i tried to compile microperl on my notebook and run it on the itx-machine, but i'll get the folowing error: /usr/bin/microperl: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (requir
[07:39] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: lol
[07:39] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: any ideas?
[07:39] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: give me root access i'l fix it
[07:39] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: alrighty i dunno how tho
[07:39] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: what you do
[07:39] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: just talk me thorough it :D
[07:39] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: or just type... lspci
[07:39] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: in konsole
[07:39] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: tell me what sound card you have
[07:39] <ColonelKernel> SiS 7012
[07:40] <ColonelKernel> did that, abattoir and crimsun tried a lotta things already...
[07:40] <h3sp4wn> samuli: I thought you wanted to use nat ? I would have the internal interface set as 192.168.1.1 - xbox as 192.168.1.10 (xbox gateway as 192.168.1.1) leave the ubuntu machine as it is (it already has a default gateway which is working)
[07:40] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: how do I give you root access?
[07:40] <teknoprep> you create a user
[07:40] <teknoprep> then add it to the sudoers list
[07:40] <fre1> synie: you can compile in static or install 2.2.4 on the box with gcc and compile on it
[07:40] <teknoprep> then give me the info on the user
[07:40] <teknoprep> useradd teknoprep
[07:40] <fre1> synie: gcc likely have an option to specify the lib c to use
[07:40] <teknoprep> follow the instructions
[07:40] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: k wait
[07:41] <pygi> ok, who here demands help?!!
[07:41] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: it said unable to lock password file
[07:41] <synie> ah, okay, i'll have a look
[07:41] <ColonelKernel> pygi: me :D
[07:41] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: type this in
[07:41] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: sudo useradd teknoprep
[07:41] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: then just add my user to the admin group
[07:41] <pygi> ColonelKernel, you can't demand help
[07:41] <pygi> that wont get you nowhere
[07:41] <samuli> h3sp4wn, Ok, now I got it.
[07:41] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: ok
[07:41] <pygi> at least in my book
[07:41] <ColonelKernel> pygi: lmao
[07:41] <fre1> ColonelKernel: just to be fair, you have to trust teknoprep to give it this root account, as he could easily crack your computer with it
[07:42] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: now how do I add ur user to the admin group
[07:42] <ColonelKernel> i know he could
[07:42] <samuli> h3sp4wn, so, I leave my xbox dns
[07:42] <ColonelKernel> nothing good on there anyway :D
[07:42] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: sudo nano /etc/group
[07:42] <samuli> h3sp4wn, dns-settings unconfigured?
[07:42] <fre1> ColonelKernel: ok just wanted to make sure
[07:42] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: ok
[07:42] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: search for admin on the left hand side
[07:42] <ColonelKernel> fre1: preciate it tho
[07:42] <h3sp4wn> samuli: Do you not run a dns server on the ubuntu box ?
[07:42] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: should be near the bottom
[07:42] <pygi> ColonelKernel, do you know who are you talking to? with people who spend their free time to help you...
[07:42] <pygi> so be shhhh
[07:42] <samuli> h3sp4wn, no.
[07:42] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: then just add ,teknoprep
[07:42] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: at the end
[07:42] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: don't forget the ,
[07:42] <pygi> ColonelKernel, or you'll have to deal with me ^_^
[07:43] <h3sp4wn> samuli: dnsmasq is just a dns forwarder (really easy to configure) I would (do) use that
[07:43] <ColonelKernel> lol
[07:43] <ColonelKernel> pygi: affirmative
[07:43] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: where do I add it?
[07:43] <teknoprep> find admin on the left hand side of that
[07:43] <teknoprep> are you inside the group file?
[07:43] <teknoprep> sudo nano /etc/group
[07:43] <ColonelKernel> nevermind
[07:43] <ColonelKernel> got it
[07:43] <ColonelKernel> how do I save
[07:43] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: then hit... ctrl + c
[07:44] <ColonelKernel> ok
[07:44] <teknoprep> or
[07:44] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: hit ctrl + x
[07:44] <samuli> h3sp4wn, Ok, I'll look into it. Many thanks.
[07:44] <ColonelKernel> ok its done
[07:44] <h3sp4wn> Much safer to just use screen with 2 people attached to it
[07:44] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: y then hit enter
[07:44] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: yes done
[07:44] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: give me your ip in a pm
[07:44] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: how do I get that :D
[07:44] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: i told u i was a n00b
[07:44] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: are you directly connected to the inet?
[07:44] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: or is there a router?
[07:45] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: nope, router
[07:45] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: DHCP
[07:45] <TD-Linux> a /whois should do it
[07:45] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: yeah you have to forward port 22 to your linux box
[07:45] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: inside your router
[07:45] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: hmmm.  what?
[07:45] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: yeah you suck
[07:45] <teknoprep> ll
[07:45] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: i'll do it...
[07:45] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: lol
[07:45] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: where do I go inside the router to forward that port?
[07:46] <pygi> depends which one you have
[07:46] <pygi> and please, o please, don't ever demand help
[07:46] <ColonelKernel> WRT54G
[07:46] <ColonelKernel> Linksys
[07:46] <ColonelKernel> i wasn't man jk. u asked :D
[07:46] <teknoprep> ok
[07:46] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: do this then
[07:46] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: ok.
[07:46] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: in konsole
[07:46] <pygi> teknoprep, you asking root password from ColonelKernel ?
[07:46] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: lsmod | grep i810
[07:46] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: nothing happened
[07:47] <teknoprep> type modprobe i810
[07:47] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: error
[07:47] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: sudo modprobe i810
[07:47] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: i'm back... sorry :(
[07:47] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: yes then...
[07:47] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: good!
[07:47] <teknoprep> anything show up?
[07:47] <pygi> ColonelKernel, may I suggest you don't give away your root password
[07:47] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: nope
[07:47] <ColonelKernel> pygi: yessir
[07:47] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: skrew him..
[07:47] <ColonelKernel> pygi: good suggestion i'll bet
[07:47] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: i won't jack his crap system up
[07:47] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: w/e just fix it :D
[07:48] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: now try sound
[07:48] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: any new ideas?
[07:48] <pygi> teknoprep, right, I just wouldnt
[07:48] <pygi> trust first-time-see people
[07:48] <teknoprep> pygi: neither would i
[07:48] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: wave entry is there?
[07:48] <h3sp4wn> ColonelKernel: I wouldn't give him my password either
[07:48] <teknoprep> pygi: but whatever
[07:48] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: what do you mean?
[07:48] <ColonelKernel> pygi: I'd trust abattoir tho
[07:48] <ColonelKernel> pygi: lol or you for warning me :D
[07:48] <teknoprep> pygi: lol
[07:48] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: you said there wasnt a slider entry in kmix for 'wave'
[07:49] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: tha't s true
[07:49] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: no entry for WAVE
[07:49] <fre1> ColonelKernel: as you may have understood, your behaviour is perceived as dangerous for yourself by many :)
[07:49] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: how about now
[07:49] <ColonelKernel> fre1: lol i got that
[07:49] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: PCM ?
[07:49] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: what?
[07:49] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: yes there is one for that
[07:49] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: is there an entry for it now?
[07:49] <pygi> ColonelKernel, right, abattoir is to be trusted, but still nobody should get your root :P
[07:49] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep:  no
[07:49] <ColonelKernel> pygi: not even abattoir?
[07:49] <abattoir> pygi: lol :)
[07:50] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: yes, noone
[07:50] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: in konsole
[07:50] <abattoir> *no-one
[07:50] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: affirmative.
[07:50] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: type alsamixer
[07:50] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: did that
[07:50] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: and?
[07:50] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: got a mixer duh
[07:50] <pygi> ColonelKernel, nobody who can't hack your system is not allowed to get your root password :)
[07:50] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: anything on mute?
[07:50] <ColonelKernel> pygi: LOL
[07:50] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: i do not believe so
[07:50] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: it will say MM at the bottom
[07:51] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: of each bar
[07:51] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: hmkm one is
[07:51] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: or a number
[07:51] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: which one?
[07:51] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: 3D control
[07:51] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: hmm i had a 7012 at one time.. unmute that
[07:51] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: for some reason headphone has no number beneaath the 00
[07:51] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: how do I unmute that
[07:51] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: that means 100
[07:51] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: it doesn't fit 100 so it says 00
[07:51] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: ok
[07:52] <teknoprep> oh nvm
[07:52] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: now how do I actulaly change the volume
[07:52] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: hit M
[07:52] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: to unmute
[07:52] <tackat> hi tsdgeos
[07:52] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: then hit up or down to raise or lower
[07:52] <ColonelKernel> ok
[07:52] <ColonelKernel> it's unmuted
[07:52] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: take a screen shot
[07:52] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: hit printscreen
[07:52] <ColonelKernel> wait
[07:52] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: and host it somewhere so i can see it
[07:52] <ColonelKernel> IEC958 is muted
[07:53] <ColonelKernel> omg
[07:53] <tsdgeos> hi
[07:53] <ColonelKernel> i hear static!!!!!
[07:53] <ColonelKernel> from the right channel!!!
[07:53] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: lol
[07:53] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: blow into the microphone
[07:53] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: see if you hear yourself
[07:53] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: no
[07:54] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: but first static in a long while
[07:54] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: lol
[07:54] <ColonelKernel> aplay didn't work tho
[07:54] <ColonelKernel> i was changing the rear jack
[07:54] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: set now to mixer out, and i hear static
[07:54] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: you have a 'Headphone' entry?
[07:54] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: yes
[07:55] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: set to Headphone Amp [Rear Jack] 
[07:55] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: I only have 'Master',"master mono",'PCM',"IEC...." and "PC Speaker"
[07:55] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: hmmmmm
[07:55] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: i've got loads of stuff here
[07:56] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: after you are done doing what teknoprep suggests, try muting everything but headphone and wave.. see what happens
[07:56] <fre1> alsa should do an effort to simplify the volume stuff
[07:56] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: still don't see wave
[07:56] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: pretty sure
[07:56] <samuli> !pastebin
[07:56] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: then PCM
[07:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:57] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: btw when I clicked on on some of these things in Kmix i hear clicks
[07:57] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: if that helps
[07:57] <abattoir> ColonelKernel:  i think that means the mic works... hence the sound card works
[07:57] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: hmmmm
[07:57] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: chk if it is the mic
[07:58] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: i also have speakers hooked up to the line out/headphone port
[07:58] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: try making some rhythmic sounds... se if that's what you hear back
[07:58] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: no sound from there either
[07:58] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: then were did the click sounds come from(not the speaker?)?
[07:58] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: headphones
[07:58] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: ah ha!
[07:58] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: i muted mic and static disspapeard
[07:58] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: although i never heard myself when I spoke into it
[07:59] <teknoprep> what is the ubuntu archive page?
[07:59] <teknoprep> to search for .deb's
[07:59] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: OMG
[07:59] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: I CAN HEAR MYSELF NOW
[07:59] <Tommy2k4> how do i stop sendmail trying to open when i boot up, ive already did apt-get remove sendmail and rm /etc/init.d/sendmail but it still tries
[07:59] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: sorry for shouting, but YES!!!
[07:59] <abattoir> teknoprep: packages.ubuntu.com
[07:59] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: hmmm.. try aplay
[07:59] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: i changed the mic input jack and it WORKED
[07:59] <ColonelKernel> lemme check aplay
[08:00] <bluesceada_> hi again..
[08:00] <ColonelKernel> unable to load slave aplay: main:544: audio open erro: device or resource busy
[08:00] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: cloase aplay?
[08:00] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: cloase mixer/
[08:00] <bluesceada_> isn't it /exec -o infobash -v3 ?
[08:00] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: try turning off the mic
[08:01] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: in the mixer?
[08:01] <bluesceada_> oops again wrong channel now sry
[08:01] <abattoir> ColonelKernel:  yes
[08:01] <teknoprep> wtf
[08:01] <teknoprep> where do i get xlibs
[08:01] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: same error when I muted mic boost
[08:01] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: trying mute mic
[08:01] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: same error
[08:01] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: one sec
[08:02] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: is it because the alsamixer is open?
[08:02] <samuli> h3sp4wn, could check this out and see if there's anything wrong with it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17942
[08:02] <imbrandon> teknoprep, sudo apt-get install xlibs-dev
[08:02] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: i dont think so, but you can try closing it if you want
[08:02] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: ok
[08:02] <ColonelKernel> now it says:
[08:02] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: so you see 'Headphones' in th kmix output tab?
[08:03] <abattoir> *the
[08:03] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: no
[08:03] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: oonly in alsamix
[08:03] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c :819: (snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[08:07] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: why can I hear my voice but not the WAVE stuff
[08:07] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: and why isn't there a wave entry?
[08:09] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: wave is PCM, what baffles me is why you get a headphones entry in alsamixer and not in kmix
[08:09] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: little odd yes
[08:10] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: very odd, it works out of the box for me ;)
[08:10] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: so what the hell do I do?  seems like i can hear myself ok
[08:10] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: probably I did something really really stupid
[08:10] <abattoir> ColonelKernel:  you have a dekstop?
[08:10] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: yes
[08:11] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: i should have asked this earlier, but only one soundcard right?
[08:11] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: SiS, i'd guess is internal...
[08:11] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: well, I think so.  I have a USB TV Tuner plugged that may be a pseudo soundcard
[08:11] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: unplug it?
[08:11] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: do you have an external SoundBlaster or something?
[08:11] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: it's a Pinaccle PCTV Pro USB Analog
[08:11] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: well, i'm not sure, but anything is worth trying
[08:11] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: ok
[08:12] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: unplugged
[08:12] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: so before when I had no suond, aplay told me it was playing.  now it doesn't.  how do I fix that?
[08:13] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: did you try muting everything and using only headphones and pcm to control volume
[08:14] <abattoir> i suggested that a few times, i dont know if you did it
[08:14] <Lynoure> When I try to play some dvds in kaffeine, I get a notice saying "Audio output unavailable. Device is busy." when the actual movie starts, after the menus and such. Is there some workaround for this? I found't find any with google.
[08:14] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: when I muted master all my audio dropped out
[08:14] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: yes i tried
[08:14] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: only headphones and pcm are unmuted and full right?
[08:14] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: wait.
[08:15] <ColonelKernel> yes
[08:15] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: now no static and no voice
[08:15] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: aplay yields same error
[08:16] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: its just weird, cant think of anything else... did you upgrade your kernel?
[08:16] <MrBallZ> any1 knows when is amarok 1.4.1 going to be in the ubuntu repositories , instead of having to add the ones stated on the webpage ... ?
[08:16] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: yes
[08:16] <centyx> oh dear. i just realized that i've upgraded to kernel 2.6.15-26 but my vmware-player-kernel-modules are still 2.6.15-25 and there's no update for them. you think those modules will work w/ the new kernel?
[08:16] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: crimsun had me do that
[08:16] <centyx> guess there's one sure way to find out
[08:16] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: ok, just to confirm, 'uname -r' ?
[08:16] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: affirmative
[08:16] <MrBallZ> centyx: just re-run vmware config ... and thats it ...
[08:17] <centyx> MrBallZ: i installed the ubuntu packages for vmware-player
[08:17] <Wikipedia-Gast86> hi
[08:17] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: would a fresh installation help?
[08:17] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: shudder*
[08:17] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: 2.6.15-26 ?
[08:18] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: you have the "Desktop" live CD?
[08:18] <Kwukki> MrBallz : http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[08:18] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: yes
[08:18] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: does audio work w/ that?
[08:18] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: no
[08:18] <newbie_> can anyone help me with the configuration of dhcp
[08:18] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: i've never heard audio with any linux installation/boot
[08:18] <centyx> the source for the modules is available tho, but I really hate messiness
[08:18] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: have you tried unmuting there?
[08:18] <centyx> I use a binary distribution for a reason
[08:18] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: no
[08:18] <newbie_> i can't get it running
[08:18] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: why would things be muted there?
[08:18] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: because i remember it being muted by default when i tried once...
[08:18] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: ohh.
[08:19] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: could you boot up the live cd, and try messing w/ kmix, see any output is there?
[08:19] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: hang on.
[08:19] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: i have sound in TeamSpeak
[08:19] <newbie_> is nobody here that could help me to configure dhcp?
[08:19] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: because, there was a problem w/ this audio card and linux sometime ago...
[08:19] <TD-Linux> Hello... My HP 932C printer stopped working when I upgraded to Dapper. I uninstalled the printer via System Settings and when I try to re-add it, it says 'Could not create foomatic printer [something] .hpijs. Either the print driver  does not exist or you do not have sufficient priveleges.' System Settings is running in root mode.
[08:19] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: it has been fixed for a few months now
[08:19] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: it works?
[08:20] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: hmmm. i dunnol. aplay didn't but I hear my friends in TeamSpeak
[08:20] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: weird, open amarok, try playing files from /usr/share/sounds
[08:20] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: k wait
[08:20] <ColonelKernel> OMG
[08:20] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: I heard a sound when I quit Alsmixer or w/e
[08:21] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: what type of sound? a proper system sound or was it some weird beep?
[08:21] <timonator> i just installed the macromedia flash player via adept but firefox still complains about a missing plugin needed to display the site (one with a flash plugin, obviously) and the description of the flashplayer packet says it installs a plugin for mozilla based browsers
[08:21] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: i'd suggest trying amarok
[08:21] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: i did. said media not playable
[08:22] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: but i heard an error beepy thing! Very nice
[08:22] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: for oggs?
[08:22] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: yeah
[08:23] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: strange strange
[08:23] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: indeed :)
[08:23] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: aplay works now
[08:23] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: i heard teh music
[08:24] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: phew, finally
[08:24] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: in the mixer, you have main muted?
[08:24] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: lemme check
[08:24] <abattoir> and only PCM and headphones on?
[08:24] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: no i undid all that
[08:24] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: i think
[08:24] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: just check.. dont change :)
[08:24] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: ok
[08:24] <MrBallZ> Kwukki: yes, I saw that page, but should I just ad the repository for this ocassion and what about future updates ? ...
[08:25] <ColonelKernel> whats the mixer in Konsole called again?
[08:25] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: alsamixer
[08:25] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: should my sound driver be /dev/dsp or 8790?
[08:25] <ColonelKernel> umm now some stuff is muted and some not
[08:25] <abattoir>  /dev/dsp is your sound device
[08:25] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: kinda random
[08:25] <abattoir> is master muted?
[08:25] <teknoprep> lol
[08:25] <ColonelKernel> no
[08:25] <Kwukki> MrBallZ : 2 options : Add the line to your sources.list or compile amarok
[08:25] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: still having problems?
[08:26] <teknoprep> lol
[08:26] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: makin progress
[08:26] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: ok, what is muted, what isnt?
[08:26] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: shouldnt be a very long list ;0
[08:26] <abattoir> ;)
[08:26] <ColonelKernel> teknoprep: actually is :D
[08:27] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: just use shorthand...
[08:27] <abattoir> so to speak
[08:27] <ColonelKernel> unmuted: master, master mono, headphone, 3d cont, pcm, front, surround, center, LFE., linein, CD, Mic mic boost,
[08:28] <ColonelKernel> phone is muted, so Is PC Speaker, IEC958, exchange, external
[08:28] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: ok, just remember that for future reference
[08:28] <ColonelKernel> and sigmatel something
[08:28] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: ok.
[08:28] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: now enable mp3s in amarok, do a reboot, and see if everything works
[08:28] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: odd thing is now, i only heard the sounds when i messed with teamspeak.
[08:28] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: and how do I enable mp3s :D
[08:28] <abattoir> !info libxine-extracodecs
[08:28] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[08:28] <sysrpl> hello ... is there a way to install gtk 2.10 on dapper?
[08:28] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: install that package ^^^^
[08:29] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: mmkay.  should it be /dev/dsp1 2 3 4 5 or blank
[08:29] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: which one?
[08:29] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: where are you asked this?
[08:29] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: YES!!! they can hear me :D
[08:30] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: in an app called TeamSpeak.
[08:30] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: the default audio device is /dev/dsp
[08:30] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: I think I fixed it :D
[08:30] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: ok, cool :)
[08:30] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: now aplay returns old error
[08:30] <ColonelKernel> great.
[08:31] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: that's probably because teamspeak is blocking access to the audio device...
[08:31] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: when I select /dev/dsp i can hear Teamspeak, not sounds. when i select default network, 8780:L
[08:31] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: i hear teh music
[08:31] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: how do I stop it! :D
[08:32] <abattoir> well, the latter seems to help, so choose that :)
[08:32] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: yes, then how do I get teamspeak to work on the default network setting?
[08:32] <centyx> well, there's no current vmware-player-kernel-modules package out, so I guess i'll compile my own
[08:33] <centyx> might as well compile a custom kernel while i'm at it
[08:33] <centyx> bleh
[08:33] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: choose /dev/dsp, try with another audio player,
[08:33] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: other than konsole?
[08:33] <centyx> i haven't used make-kpkg in a couple years
[08:33] <sysrpl> hello ... is there a way to install gtk 2.10 on dapper?
[08:33] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: yes, other than aplay
[08:33] <h3sp4wn> centyx: Just use module assistant
[08:34] <centyx> h3sp4wn: hm ok
[08:34] <ColonelKernel> tried kaffeine
[08:34] <ColonelKernel> got error All Audio Drivers failed to initialize
[08:34] <h3sp4wn> codeine is much more preferable to kaffeine for me
[08:34] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: ok, what if you change the option in teamspeak?
[08:34] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: testing
[08:34] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: does that error come up in kaffeine?
[08:35] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: no, but it doesn't play either
[08:35] <centyx> h3sp4wn: nice, thanks
[08:35] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: so i guess teamspeak is the culprit
[08:35] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: could be.
[08:35] <centyx> i'm behind the times
[08:35] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: how do I fix it's badness
[08:35] <timonator> teamspeak is evil big time :O
[08:35] <centyx> 8-s
[08:35] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: i have no clue, havent used it, even though i've heard about it
[08:35] <ColonelKernel> timonator: u know how to fix it?
[08:35] <timonator> nope
[08:35] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: damn damn.
[08:36] <timonator> it uses OSS, broken by design :P
[08:36] <timonator> and i didnt read what the problem is
[08:36] <ColonelKernel> that sux
[08:36] <h3sp4wn> use alsaoss
[08:36] <ColonelKernel> alsaoss?
[08:36] <h3sp4wn> !info alsaoss
[08:36] <ubotu> Package alsaoss does not exist in dapper
[08:36] <timonator> !info aoss
[08:36] <ubotu> Package aoss does not exist in dapper
[08:36] <h3sp4wn> !info alsa-oss
[08:36] <ubotu> alsa-oss: ALSA wrapper for OSS applications. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10-1 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 216 kB
[08:37] <ColonelKernel> i am installing
[08:37] <ColonelKernel> h3sp4wn: installed
[08:37] <ColonelKernel> h3sp4wn: now what :D
[08:38] <h3sp4wn> what ?
[08:38] <h3sp4wn> use it
[08:38] <ColonelKernel> h3sp4wn: i installed also oss. i don't know  how to use it
[08:38] <ColonelKernel> h3sp4wn: noob here remember
[08:38] <TD-Linux> that's odd.... an update on my printer problem: when I went into the CUPS administration panel (localhost:631), and added a printer, the drop-down box for Devices was grayed out. Possibly all my printer drivers dissapeared?
[08:39] <h3sp4wn> !alsaoss
[08:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about alsaoss - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:39] <h3sp4wn> !alsa-oss
[08:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about alsa-oss - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:39] <ColonelKernel> !alsa-oss
[08:39] <ColonelKernel> !alsa-oss
[08:39] <h3sp4wn> Google tells you how to use it (never used it myself just know it can do what you want)
[08:40] <ColonelKernel> should i change the mic selection in alsamixer?
[08:43] <ColonelKernel> hmmm aplay cant play oggs
[08:44] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: what about wavs?
[08:45] <ColonelKernel> they play fine
[08:45] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: nice sounds too
[08:46] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: kaffeine can play the oggs tho
[08:46] <TD-Linux> Okay, now something is REALLY weird... ALL of the printer drivers dissapeared from the Add Printers Wizard
[08:47] <ColonelKernel> btw whats the phoenetic pronunciation of Kubuntu/Ubuntu?
[08:47] <ColonelKernel> oo boon too
[08:48] <centyx> h3sp4wn: do you happen to know how to make module-assistant build module packages that aren't in its predefined list?
[08:48] <TD-Linux> it sounds like you are a caveman if you pronounce it properly
[08:48] <ColonelKernel> got it
[08:48] <ColonelKernel> Nelson Mandela video...
[08:48] <ColonelKernel> !mp3
[08:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:49] <h3sp4wn> centyx:  module-assistant a-i modulename (which should be in /usr/src - compressed is ok)
[08:50] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: thank you so much man.  Now I just gotta fix TeamSpeak...
[08:53] <DaSkreech> ColonelKernel: Look in Examples Folder
[08:53] <TD-Linux> Okay... I got my HP drivers back, but now there is the same problem I had before. It says that either the driver dosen't exist, or I do not have the required priveleges.
[08:53] <DaSkreech> ColonelKernel: Oh of course You found it :)
[08:53] <teknoprep> yay
[08:53] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel: did you fix sound?
[08:53] <teknoprep> ColonelKernel:
[08:56] <centyx> h3sp4wn: looks like i have to use make-kpkg on this one
[08:56] <myloginname> well hello evry1 :)
[08:56] <myloginname> what a neat place to find
[08:56] <h3sp4wn> centyx: Why not just use the version you can download from vmware (the tar.gz one)
[08:56] <teknoprep> lol
[08:56] <teknoprep> this place owns
[08:56] <teknoprep> but not for you so go away
[08:57] <myloginname> :) you r correct
[08:57] <myloginname> but very rude
[08:57] <teknoprep> lol jk
[08:57] <myloginname> ok
[08:57] <myloginname> :)
[08:57] <teknoprep> calm your ass
[08:57] <myloginname> anywho
[08:57] <TD-Linux> YAY! My printer works! I just had to select the driver with the hpijs suffix at the end.
[08:57] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: cool, glad that it works :)
[08:57] <teknoprep> abattoir: you help ColonelKernel
[08:57] <cristiano> anybody knows the best way to open a iso file in linux? i mean just seeing it without burning
[08:57] <teknoprep> mount it
[08:58] <myloginname> zip prog?
[08:58] <abattoir> teknoprep: ????
[08:58] <myloginname> ah
[08:58] <myloginname> winimage like
[08:58] <teknoprep> abattoir: ?
[08:58] <cristiano> teknoprep: yep i think i need a program like isobuster or so
[08:58] <TD-Linux> the mount command supports iso images, I *think*, or is it isomount?
[08:58] <TD-Linux> Linux comes with an iso mounter I think
[08:58] <cristiano> mmm TD-Linux i don't remember
[08:59] <centyx> h3sp4wn: h3sp4wn: that would be even more of a mess than this
[08:59] <abattoir> teknoprep: >>[00:27:21]  <teknoprep> abattoir: you help ColonelKernel<< i guess that was just a statement, nevermind :_
[08:59] <abattoir> :)
[08:59] <centyx> h3sp4wn: besides, they'll release a package sooner or later
[08:59] <centyx> h3sp4wn: i just need it now
[08:59] <cristiano> TD-Linux: i can't find it
[08:59] <teknoprep> [14:57]  <teknoprep> abattoir: you help ColonelKernel
[08:59] <teknoprep> is all i said
[08:59] <centyx> h3sp4wn: a mess meaning, clutter.
[08:59] <teknoprep> no that is a question
[08:59] <h3sp4wn> centyx: Why it would just install itself cleanly into /usr/local and there is an uninstall script (I don't think commercial software should ever be included in the repos)
[09:00] <TD-Linux> I'm looking...
[09:00] <myloginname> any idea how to make my isp ip's stay in place after reboot? always picks the router as 1st ip for dns
[09:00] <abattoir> teknoprep: i guess his problem is solved, he only has to sort out teamspeak, w/ which i cant help much
[09:01] <abattoir> teknoprep: ok, i just guess you were trying to coordinate, i saw it in another context :)
[09:01] <teknoprep> ahh
[09:01] <Nightrose> hi - i tried to install kdiary - while running the configure skript i got an error
[09:01] <h3sp4wn> myloginname: edit /etc/dhclient.conf (the line you want contains 127.0.0.1 - unhash it and change it to the nameserver you want)
[09:01] <Nightrose> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[09:01] <Nightrose> I can't find the designer plugins. These are required and should have been installed by kdelibs
[09:01] <Nightrose> but i have kdelibs installed
[09:02] <teknoprep> mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/isotest -o loop
[09:02] <h3sp4wn> myloginname: prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;
[09:02] <Nightrose> any idea what might be wrong?
[09:02] <abattoir> !info kdiary
[09:02] <h3sp4wn> myloginname: etc ...
[09:02] <ubotu> Package kdiary does not exist in dapper
[09:02] <teknoprep> actually
[09:02] <myloginname> will this prevent redetection ?
[09:02] <teknoprep> mkdir /mnt/isotest
[09:02] <teknoprep> mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/isotest -o loop
[09:02] <TD-Linux> that's it :)
[09:02] <teknoprep> change /dev/cdrom to the location of the .iso
[09:03] <Nightrose> jea but its less a problem of kdiary i think...
[09:03] <cristiano> thx guys :D
[09:03] <TD-Linux> if only CD-ROM emulation was that easy under Windows... :P
[09:03] <timonator> in linux you can not only emulate cds that way
[09:04] <timonator> you can emulate basically any filesystem
[09:04] <timonator> any filesystem that linux supports, that is
[09:04] <TD-Linux> yes, the Linux filesystem must be a real pain for the copy-protection software companies... hence my theory why there aren't many commercial games for Linux :)
[09:05] <timonator> hmm
[09:05] <timonator> people should change that
[09:05] <timonator> and make crippled filesystems and filesystem tools
[09:05] <timonator> crippled like what windows has
[09:05] <TD-Linux> I wasn't suggesting that...
[09:05] <timonator> ok
[09:06] <teknoprep> there are better forms of copy-protection
[09:06] <myloginname> well thanx h3, no dice but i wasnt sure about this room anyways, just came up by default, crying shame too
[09:06] <teknoprep> then crappy forms of cd copy-protection
[09:06] <myloginname> i could have had fun
[09:06] <timonator> so you are ssuggesting that the game industries should go back to the really good copyprotections? such as the ones that you need a printed sheet of paper for?
[09:06] <timonator> like the incredible machines where you get a number and have to pick a set of symbols that are printed next to the numkber in the manual
[09:06] <timonator> :x
[09:07] <teknoprep> hmmm
[09:07] <teknoprep> stupidity
[09:07] <timonator> ok ok
[09:07] <denis_> PEOPLE - what do i need to have installed to play audio streams? i seem to have every software imaginable installed but i cant play a stream.
[09:07] <timonator> what 'better ways' are you talking about?
[09:07] <timonator> denis_: depends on the type of stream i guess
[09:07] <teknoprep> denis_: easyubuntu
[09:08] <SonicChao> denis_: What stream?
[09:08] <TD-Linux> no copy protection whatsoever :)
[09:08] <denis_> http://www.avtoradio.ru/?scres=800&an=r_online
[09:08] <denis_> thats the stream
[09:08] <SonicChao> denis_: What filetype?
[09:08] <denis_> its asx i think?
[09:08] <SonicChao> denis_: .m3u ?
[09:08] <teknoprep> denis_: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[09:08] <SonicChao> teknoprep: That doesnt help w/everything
[09:08] <denis_> can anyone play that stream?
[09:08] <denis_> http://www.avtoradio.ru/?scres=800&an=r_online
[09:08] <timonator> denis_: asx is some crappy microsoft format... win32codecs, anyone?
[09:09] <cristiano> mmmm guys the command u gave to me isn't working
[09:09] <SonicChao> denis_: Let me try
[09:09] <teknoprep> OMFG
[09:09] <teknoprep> do this you NOOBS
[09:09] <teknoprep> wget http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/files/easyubuntu-3.021.tar.gz
[09:09] <teknoprep> tar -zxf easyubuntu-3.021.tar.gz
[09:09] <teknoprep> cd easyubuntu
[09:09] <teknoprep> sudo python easyubuntu.in
[09:09] <SonicChao> teknoprep: Be nice
[09:09] <teknoprep> lol
[09:09] <teknoprep> there is no such thing as bad words
[09:09] <timonator> teknoprep: YOU NOOB
[09:09] <timonator> :P
[09:09] <teknoprep> just the way that ppl take it
[09:10] <teknoprep> so in turn
[09:10] <teknoprep> how do you know i am not being nice
[09:10] <teknoprep> ?
[09:10] <SonicChao> teknoprep: OMFG! YOU NOOB! OMGWTFBBQ!
[09:10] <teknoprep> lol
[09:10] <teknoprep> w0ot
[09:10] <timonator> you said "oh my fucking god, you are all noobs"
[09:10] <timonator> :)
[09:10] <teknoprep> no i said
[09:10] <SonicChao> No!
[09:10] <denis_> SonicChao - does it work?
[09:10] <timonator> NO!!!
[09:10] <SonicChao> None of you said nothing!
[09:10] <SonicChao> Ontopic please
[09:10] <SonicChao> XD!
[09:10] <teknoprep> corret
[09:10] <emanuel_> hey hey hey.. this isnt looking as a community
[09:10] <SonicChao> denis_: I've been sidetracked
[09:10] <timonator> teknoprep: wanna buy an c?
[09:11] <denis_> lol http://www.avtoradio.ru/?scres=800&an=r_online
[09:11] <teknoprep> all you nubcakes out there.. that want the easy to use setup of ubuntu to make it like windows compatible for viewing internet shit
[09:11] <teknoprep> wget http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/files/easyubuntu-3.021.tar.gz
[09:11] <teknoprep> tar -zxf easyubuntu-3.021.tar.gz
[09:11] <teknoprep> cd easyubuntu
[09:11] <teknoprep> sudo python easyubuntu.in
[09:11] <teknoprep> _________________________________
[09:11] <SonicChao> !flood
[09:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:11] <teknoprep> do what i just put up there
[09:11] <cristiano> guys no success at all trying to mount the iso
[09:11] <denis_> are u telling that to me teknoprepp?\
[09:11] <SonicChao> denis_: Let me try again
[09:11] <cristiano> it says "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0"
[09:11] <SonicChao> denis_: I have EasyUbuntu, doesnt play
[09:12] <timonator> SonicChao: omgwtfbbq nubkace!
[09:12] <denis_> hm :(
[09:12] <teknoprep> denis_: what are you trying to play?
[09:12] <SonicChao> denis_: It probably wont work on Ubuntu
[09:12] <denis_> its this stream.
[09:12] <teknoprep> wha tstream
[09:12] <teknoprep> omfg
[09:12] <teknoprep> WHAT STREAM
[09:12] <teknoprep> lol
[09:12] <SonicChao> teknoprep: http://www.avtoradio.ru/?scres=800&an=r_online
[09:13] <teknoprep> hmm hold up
[09:13] <teknoprep> i am doing some really intesive cpu crap and its slowing me down alot
[09:13] <cristiano> ah ok guys i think it's the file the prob, even with K3B is impossible to open
[09:13] <teknoprep> ?
[09:13] <teknoprep> what is imposible to open?
[09:15] <teknoprep> hold up cristiano
[09:15] <teknoprep> or that guy that wanted that video to open
[09:15] <teknoprep> hold up
[09:15] <teknoprep> and cristiano
[09:15] <denis_> its not a video
[09:15] <denis_> its an audio
[09:15] <teknoprep> yeah its buffering for me now
[09:15] <teknoprep> its mad slow
[09:16] <teknoprep> only at 14% buffering
[09:16] <cristiano> teknoprep: the prob i have is with the iso ;)
[09:16] <teknoprep> yeah i know
[09:16] <centyx> GAR
[09:16] <centyx> same problem
[09:17] <centyx> i think the vmware-player-kernel-source package is defective
[09:17] <Sylvain> salut
[09:17] <denis_> FUDGE - i cant play any streams. i dont understnad why there isnt just 1 package that lets u play the BASIC media streams.
[09:17] <centyx> denis_: kaffeine should play pretty much everything. amarok should play everything audio.
[09:17] <teknoprep> cristiano: sudo apt-get install fuseiso
[09:18] <teknoprep> cristiano: man fuseiso
[09:18] <centyx> denis_: you have to install the necessary codecs first.
[09:18] <cristiano> thx teknoprep :)
[09:18] <denis_> ok
[09:18] <denis_> where do i get the codecs
[09:18] <centyx> denis_: apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[09:18] <cristiano> !mp3
[09:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:19] <teknoprep> denis_: its video and audio
[09:19] <cristiano> denis_: check the wiki for all the codecs u need
[09:19] <teknoprep> denis_: and its mad slow
[09:19] <teknoprep> denis_: the streamer doesn't have crap for bandwidth
[09:19] <teknoprep> denis_: less you gave me the wrong link
[09:19] <denis_> ok. i open any link and real player launches and gives me an error this media is not supported or smthng like that
[09:20] <denis_> and its just audio man :\
[09:20] <centyx> denis_: and add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list, do apt-get update, then do apt-get install w32codecs
[09:20] <centyx> #deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free
[09:20] <denis_> cntyx, the link gives me an error
[09:21] <denis_> could not connect to host packages
[09:21] <centyx> oops
[09:21] <cristiano> teknoprep: when i use it it asks for fusermount
[09:21] <cristiano> damn :D
[09:22] <ronmoeller> moinsen
[09:22] <denis_> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:22] <denis_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:23] <denis_> thats what it says in root when i type apt-get install w32codecs
[09:23] <centyx> !w32codecs
[09:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:23] <centyx> denis_: you can get them off mplayer's site, and there's a debian/ubuntu package floating around somewhere if you search google
[09:24] <centyx> denis_: go to that link ubotu threw out
[09:25] <ronmoeller> you have to add universe/multiverse repository
[09:26] <denis_> i think i added universe/multiverse repository
[09:26] <denis_> fudge. this is giving me such a head ache lol.
[09:27] <ronmoeller> apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[09:27] <denis_> ronmoller, i installed that
[09:27] <ronmoeller> then sry
[09:27] <denis_> through adept
[09:28] <ronmoeller> ok, thats a prob
[09:28] <denis_> oh?
[09:28] <ronmoeller> i couldn't help you
[09:28] <ronmoeller> sry
[09:28] <ronmoeller> need help
[09:28] <denis_> yeah. hm. im at a loss.
[09:28] <ronmoeller> problems with x-server
[09:29] <denis_> i cant even play asf files lol
[09:29] <denis_> or asx
[09:29] <ronmoeller> http://www.elijahlofgren.com/linux/ubuntu/multimedia/
[09:30] <ronmoeller> try that
[09:31] <centyx> i was gonna tell him how to get them off mplayer's site, but i can't even get to it at the moment
[09:31] <centyx> :-s
[09:31] <centyx> i finally got module-assistant to work. whoever packaged the source forgot to rename the files properly
[09:33] <Guest09289> Can someone help me with icecast ?
[09:34] <centyx> hrm.
[09:34] <svivian> What media player will allow me to play .au files?
[09:36] <denis_> lol wow a lot of people are having trouble playing audio files on this...
[09:37] <unix_infidel> not me.
[09:37] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: apparantly you were right about TeamSpeak.  It doesn't interface properly with alsa and all that...
[09:37] <unix_infidel> audio works fine here.
[09:38] <denis_> oh yeah unix_infidel?
[09:38] <denis_> unix_infidel, what must i have installed to play asx/asf files and other streaming files?
[09:39] <unix_infidel> denis_: for proprietary windows media player formats....windows media.
[09:39] <unix_infidel> wine, cxoffice, take your pick.
[09:39] <unix_infidel> if you feel up to it, reverse engineer the protocol.
[09:40] <trappist> unix_infidel: there's almost no media format that can't be played by mplayer with codecs available in ubuntu repositories
[09:40] <trappist> particularly w32codecs
[09:40] <unix_infidel> trappist: that's fine and all, but the formats he mentioned above arent exactly w32codecs friendly.
[09:40] <trappist> sure they are
[09:40] <trappist> mplayer can play them fine
[09:41] <trappist> which probably means xine can to, but I'm an mplayer guy
[09:41] <DaSkreech> denis_: HI
[09:41] <denis_> yeah man hey
[09:42] <centyx> denis_: did you ever install the w32codecs?
[09:42] <denis_> i dont believe so
[09:43] <denis_> it doesnt show up in adept
[09:43] <denis_> i'm on kubuntu
[09:44] <denis_> i type in w32codecs and get no results
[09:44] <ronmoeller> same to me
[09:44] <centyx> denis_: open a konsole window and type this: wget http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/essential-20060611.tar.bz2
[09:45] <gatekeeper> denis_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[09:45] <h3sp4wn> easier to just get the deb from plf or debian-multimedia
[09:45] <centyx> h3sp4wn: plf is down
[09:45] <h3sp4wn> debian-multimedia then (sid repo)
[09:46] <centyx> what's the source for debian-multimedia?
[09:46] <DaSkreech> !tell denis_ about w32codecs
[09:46] <h3sp4wn> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main (but I would just browse the repo and download the deb manually install with dpkg -i)
[09:47] <DaSkreech> denis_: Read the wiki page they have a link to the w32codecs deb. Grab it and right click install
[09:47] <denis_> what wikipage dude?
[09:48] <denis_> centyx: i typed the wget thing, and it downloaded, now what?
[09:48] <gatekeeper> or modify your sources.list then apt-get install w32codecs
[09:48] <DaSkreech> the one that ubotu just sent to you :)
[09:48] <centyx> do what they're telling you, it's neater
[09:48] <centyx> cleaner
[09:49] <denis_> i didnt get anything from ubotu heh
[09:49] <centyx> !w32codecs
[09:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:49] <gatekeeper> denis_: update your sources.list with the URL I gave you
[09:49] <denis_> gatekeeper how do i do this and with which url?
[09:50] <gatekeeper> denis_: this one: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[09:50] <gatekeeper> will give you all the repos you want
[09:50] <centyx> or he could do: wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb ; sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[09:50] <centyx> afk
[09:51] <gatekeeper> loads of choices :-)
[09:51] <gatekeeper> centyx: probable confusing him :-)
[09:51] <centyx> that's the linux way ;p
[09:51] <centyx> heheh
[09:52] <svivian> Been listening in, what formats will the w32codecs give me?
[09:52] <denis_> OK STOP FOR A SEConD
[09:52] <DaSkreech> denis_: Follow what centyx just said :)
[09:52] <denis_> i go here
[09:52] <denis_> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[09:52] <denis_> and when i type sudo gedit...etc - it says gedit is not a command
[09:53] <joecoder> How can I change the color of icon text on my destkp?
[09:53] <centyx> denis_: replace gedit w/ kate
[09:53] <joecoder> it's currently black against a black background
[09:53] <joecoder> with a faint white anti-aliased border
[09:53] <gatekeeper> denis_: either do what centyx said or first apt-get install gedit then follow those instructions
[09:54] <denis_> it says cannot connect to x-server
[09:54] <denis_> when i do the sudo kate etc thing.
[09:54] <centyx> type  xhost +
[09:54] <centyx> then do it again
[09:54] <joecoder> nevermind, I found it
[09:54] <denis_> when i type xhost +
[09:54] <gatekeeper> K -> run command... -> kdesu  kate
[09:55] <DaSkreech> svivian: The Microsoft formats
[09:55] <DaSkreech> denis_: Can I get second
[09:55] <DaSkreech> denis_: Give me a second let me help you out :)
[09:55] <denis_> ok
[09:55] <MukiEX> I'm not sure if this is a Kubuntu question or an Ati one.
[09:56] <MukiEX> But I'm still getting Mesa GLX showing up when I check fglrxinfo
[09:56] <centyx> back to work :P
[09:56] <MukiEX> Is there an easy way to copy files over? I built the --Ubuntu/6.06 package originally.
[09:56] <centyx> denis_: good luck
[09:56] <denis_> thanks centyx
[09:56] <denis_> :)
[09:56] <DaSkreech> denis_: The last link that centyx gave
[09:56] <DaSkreech>  use that
[09:56] <svivian> DaSkreech: Will that include .au?
[09:57] <gatekeeper> denis_: sorry if I was confusing you, let DaSkreech talk you through it
[09:57] <DaSkreech> denis_: wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb ; sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[09:57] <DaSkreech> paste that into a terminal
[09:57] <DaSkreech> svivian: I think you can play au with kaffine already
[09:57] <MukiEX> I followed the BinaryDriverHowto/ATI to a T, but it didn't work.
[09:58] <denis_> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[09:58] <DaSkreech> denis_: that's what you get?
[09:58] <gatekeeper> DaSkreech: I would get him to update his sources to future proof when your done with the codecs
[09:58] <DaSkreech> You have adept open?
[09:58] <denis_> yeah man
[09:58] <DaSkreech> gatekeeper: Yes I know
[09:58] <DaSkreech> denis_: Close it
[09:59] <denis_> ok its downloading
[09:59] <gatekeeper> svivian: what are you after
[09:59] <svivian> DaSkreech: I tried. Kaffeine runs through each .au file in less than a second. It acts like it is playing, but it is over instantly with no sound
[10:00] <kernal> anyone who has experience with i810 drivers? i am going crazy setting up a widescreen monitor
[10:00] <DaSkreech> svivian: ok Give me a second
[10:01] <svivian> gatekeeper: I have a small collection of .au files of chinese folksongs
[10:02] <denis_> ok DaSkreech
[10:02] <denis_> its done whatever it was doing
[10:02] <denis_> now what
[10:02] <DaSkreech> svivian: Have you installed libxine-extracodecs?
[10:02] <DaSkreech> Try play the thingy
[10:03] <DaSkreech> svivian: Wow. I'd love to hear those :) I like chinese music
[10:03] <DaSkreech> denis_: try Play the thingy
[10:03] <Joe1> hey, room.
[10:03] <denis_> i am using konquerer,and it has mplayer in the window
[10:04] <denis_> it says "player xine playing"
[10:04] <DaSkreech> denis_: Ok
[10:04] <denis_> but i'm not hearing anything.
[10:04] <denis_> and i do have sound.
[10:04] <DaSkreech> gimmie the link
[10:04] <denis_> http://www.avtoradio.ru/?scres=800&an=r_online
[10:04] <DaSkreech> let me see if I can hear it
[10:05] <kernal> how to get gmail working nice in konqueror?
[10:05] <DaSkreech> kernal: Lie
[10:05] <gatekeeper> svivian: libxine-extracodecs & w32codecs seem to cover most eventuallities but I did some googling and .au seem to be a sun format so not sure
[10:06] <DaSkreech> gatekeeper: Well I just reinstalled last night and the only thing I have installed is extracodecs and my au works ok
[10:06] <gatekeeper> DaSkreech: cool :-)
[10:07] <kernal> DaSkreech: its impossible?
[10:07] <DaSkreech> kernal: Change your Auth string to say Firefox
[10:07] <denis_> DaSkreech, is it working for you?
[10:07] <Bizzeh> hey
[10:08] <DaSkreech> Nope. Let me install w32codecs and see if that makes a difference
[10:08] <Bizzeh> if i just wanna run from the livecd, is there any way of setting up a usb drive to store my settings?
[10:09] <MukiEX> Anyone? Ati? Mesa bug?
[10:09] <DaSkreech> MukiEX: What's the bug?
[10:10] <gatekeeper> Bizzeh: there is I don't know how you do it, but I think Damn Small Linux has a setup that does just that
[10:10] <MukiEX> DaSkreech : installed Ati driver. Checked it with FGLRXInfo. Shows Mesa still controlling GLX rather than Ati. It's a library issue, but I've NEVER been able to fix it.
[10:10] <samuli> MukiEX, what does cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep "ati" say?
[10:11] <MukiEX> samuli : I manually changed the driversetting to fglrx, but lemme check.
[10:11] <DaSkreech> svivian: Still around?
[10:11] <kernal> anyone knows how to set the resolution to 1440 x 900?
[10:11] <MukiEX> awww sob, it changed back.
[10:11] <MukiEX> brb, samuli/DaSkreech
[10:11] <samuli> MukiEX :)
[10:11] <svivian> DaSkreech: yep, sorry, on the phone at the moment, brb
[10:12] <MukiEX> Oh wait, no, it's set correctly.
[10:12] <MukiEX> Those were old, depricated Devices.
[10:12] <DaSkreech> Ok let me know when you get back
[10:12] <MukiEX> No no, I have it set correctly.
[10:13] <samuli> MukiEX, it might be that you need to use older fglrx than that in the dapper repo.
[10:13] <MukiEX> I used buildpkg on the latest Ati driver with the Ubuntu/dapper setting.
[10:13] <MukiEX> Is there a library file I can copy over manually?
[10:14] <centyx> off-topic, does anyone know if there are any plans for the fglrx driver to ever support the Composite extension and direct rendering simultaneously?
[10:15] <teknoprep> yo
[10:15] <centyx> ho
[10:15] <teknoprep> how do i disable 3rd button emulation?
[10:15] <centyx> and a bottle of
[10:15] <MukiEX> brb
[10:16] <centyx> Option          "Emulate3Buttons"       "true"
[10:16] <centyx> in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:16] <centyx> make it false
[10:17] <centyx> i'm really tempted to sell my ati card to some kid so i can get a nvidia card just so i can have translucency and shadows :P
[10:18] <centyx> that's really sad
[10:18] <centyx> anyway
[10:18] <gatekeeper> centyx: everyone seems to have agro with Ati cards I have noticed
[10:18] <centyx> centyx: yea
[10:18] <MukiEX> gatekeeper : agro?
[10:19] <centyx> remember Skate or Die on the C64 - Agro Eddie?
[10:19] <gatekeeper> trouble
[10:19] <centyx> :P
[10:20] <gatekeeper> brb
[10:20] <MukiEX> I know which libraries they are, but swapping in the ones straight form the Ati diver  doesn't so anything.
[10:21] <MukiEX> Are you supposed to replace libGL AND libGLU?
[10:21] <MukiEX> 'cause I can't find libGLU in the Ati driver package.
[10:22] <gilgongo> Is anyone having trouble applying the recent update to vim? Adept returns an error every time.
[10:23] <gilgongo> I'm on kubuntu dapper BTW
[10:25] <samuli> what's the package name for java that comes with dapper?
[10:26] <MukiEX> arrggg it still says MESA, and I even followed the tip here :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185033
[10:26] <samuli> MukiEX, do you get API errors with glxinfo?
[10:27] <svivian> DaSkreech: Ok, back. I installed w32codecs, and the libxine-extras and now Kaffeine works (woohoo!). Minor issue, the audio quality is a bit jumpy. Next point, do you have an email where you would like me to send a .tar of these files
[10:28] <MukiEX> samuli : No, it's just showing this : OpenGL renderer string : Mesa GLX Indirect
[10:28] <MukiEX> I've looked up the "mesa" bug before, but none of the fixes they posted work, at all.
[10:28] <DaSkreech> samuli: sun-j2re something
[10:28] <gatekeeper> samuli: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[10:29] <samuli> DaSkreech, I don't think it's sun's java that comes with ubuntu.
[10:29] <samuli> I know sun's java is in the repos. That's not what I asked :)
[10:29] <DaSkreech> samuli: First java doesn't ship with java
[10:30] <samuli> DaSKreech, How come I have java then, even though I haven't installed it?
[10:30] <DaSkreech> samuli: Excellent question :)
[10:31] <svivian> MukiEX: my fix for problems with ATI was "install an nVidia card". I fought getting dual screens to work and have hardware accelleration for over a week with no joy, and finally said "screw it". ATI makes nice hardware, but their drivers are awful
[10:31] <MukiEX> svivian : I BOUGHT an Nvidia card. And followed THAT setup to a T too. No luck.
[10:31] <MukiEX> That gave me even MORE agrivation.
[10:35] <MukiEX> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17951
[10:35] <samuli> Ok, I found the java. it was j2jre-1.4 blackdowns
[10:36] <MukiEX> Yeah, at this point this just looks like a Ubuntu problem. Every time I try to install vender drivers I get fubared. This never even remotely happened on Suse.
[10:36] <svivian> MukiEX: I'm sorry to hear that. When I put the nVidia in, I had to uninstall the fglrx stuff, pull down the nvidia package, re-run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then it took abotu 3 reboots playing with various settings, but it was all in all far easier than fighting ATI
[10:36] <teknoprep> yo
[10:37] <teknoprep> how do i take a .deb that i installed from dpkg.. but in my update program it says it broken
[10:37] <teknoprep> i wanna make it NOT broken
[10:37] <teknoprep> i know its not broken
[10:37] <teknoprep> can i just remove it from the database?
[10:37] <teknoprep> but keep it installed
[10:37] <MukiEX> svivian : I tried re-installing all of Ubuntu from scratch six times already. This is just bad a packaging system.
[10:39] <svivian> DaSkreech: I can't email you the files after all. It is a 93mb tar
[10:39] <DaSkreech> svivian: Ha :) ok make a nice selection then
[10:39] <svivian> DaSkreech: do you have a favorite ftp site?
[10:39] <DaSkreech> svivian: Public I take it.
[10:40] <svivian> DaSkreech: Well, somewhere I can get to. I don't have any ftp accounts anywhere
[10:40] <DaSkreech> teknoprep: Take out the programs and the ones it conflicts with. reinstall them from the repos
[10:40] <svivian> MukiEX: when you do the install, how are you doing it?
[10:41] <DaSkreech> svivian: Erm not sure. Not without handing out some keys or passwords
[10:42] <svivian> DaSkreech: maybe a torrent site?
[10:43] <DaSkreech> svivian: That's an interesting idea. If you can seed a torrent I'm pretty sure I can grab it
[10:43] <DaSkreech> Hi Cntryboy
[10:43] <svivian> All I need is a tracker. I am not that familiar with the torrent world
[10:43] <Cntryboy> any programs for kubuntu like photoshop? Real nice paint features.. krita sucks lol
[10:43] <fiyawerx> Cntryboy: Gimp
[10:44] <svivian> Cntryboy: Try GIMP
[10:44] <Cntryboy> daskreech: hi
[10:44] <DaSkreech> Cntryboy: Gimp
[10:44] <Cntryboy> kk
[10:44] <DaSkreech> Else find WINE :)
[10:44] <svivian> DaSkreech: What is a good tracker site
[10:44] <Cntryboy> I have wine
[10:45] <Cntryboy> but didn't know newest photoshop worked on it good
[10:45] <Cntryboy> is gimp just as good as photoshop, I had it with regular ubuntu but never tried it
[10:45] <fiyawerx> depends on who you ask, but some people say yeah
[10:45] <DaSkreech> svivian: I would guess mininova
[10:46] <Cntryboy> kk
[10:46] <Blv3Watyr> i would prefer gimp to photoshop
[10:46] <DaSkreech> svivian: Which everone you find you can pm me or mail me the link
[10:46] <Cntryboy> do I have to download plugins for gimp or is it all set
[10:47] <Cntryboy> I do have the digikamimageplugins and kipi plugins I think
[10:47] <Cntryboy> taking awhile to dl this gimp with this slow dialup
[10:48] <Cntryboy> well thx gang im going to get off here so dl will speed up some
[10:48] <Cntryboy> peace
[10:48] <flake> how do you open a console in quake 4
[10:48] <flake> i tried alt-~, ~, ctrl-~, ctrl-alt-~, etc
[10:50] <flake> think i'll just have to pass options to it
[10:52] <MukiEX> svivian : I literally just followed this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:53] <svivian> DaSkreech: http://www.mininova.org/tor/365954
[10:53] <svivian> MukiEX: I found that link to be extraordinarily useless
[10:53] <MukiEX> Is there a better guide? =3
[10:54] <svivian> MukiEX: no. There isn't anything useful for ATI.
[10:54] <svivian> MukiEX: I wish I could help more.
[10:54] <MukiEX> svivian : Don't worry about it, I'll just switch back to Suse.
[10:55] <svivian> DaSkreech: I'll leave it open for a while. I have to step away
[10:55] <DaSkreech> ok
[10:55] <DaSkreech> It says i's corrupt
[10:55] <svivian> DaSkreech: fark. hang on
[10:56] <lwizardl> hi
[10:56] <lwizardl> how do i change my clock to 12 hour instead of 24
[10:57] <erikson> right clickon the clock, date abd time format
[10:58] <erikson> and
[11:03] <jc-denton> xgl
[11:03] <svivian> DaSkreech: try this: http://www.mininova.org/tor/365959
[11:04] <jc-denton> ubotu: xgl
[11:04] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:05] <DaSkreech> svivian: No Corrupt error :-)
[11:06] <DaSkreech> Not starting but we can work something out :)
[11:06] <svivian> ok. I have your email. I will figure something out and contact you. I have to leave for a bit
[11:07] <^osh^> Anyone know of a very simple good walk-through for creating new packages. Something really dumbed down so even an ex-redhat/mandrake-packager could understand it?
[11:07] <^osh^> The ones I see on the wiki are too much information in one go. I need something simpler to start with.
[11:08] <crimsun> ^osh^: help.ubuntu.com -> packaging guide.
[11:09] <Lynoure> ^osh^: *curious* What are you planning to package?
[11:09] <^osh^> crimsun: Just what I was looking for. Thanks a bunch.
[11:10] <^osh^> Lynoure: I'm not planning to package anything. I'm trying to learn. First off I'm going to give a drupal-4.7.2 a go. Let's see where I end up with that.
[11:11] <^osh^> Lynoure: If things work out I might adopt a package or two.
[11:11] <Lynoure> ^osh^: :)
[11:13] <^osh^> Works great. Just what I needed for a devel-machine. :-)
[11:13] <Lynoure> free like open source or free as for no charge? (I haven't been following)
[11:13] <^osh^> Lynoure: GPL if I'm not misstaken.
[11:13] <^osh^> s/s//
[11:14] <Pupeno_> VMWare ? GPL ? where ?
[11:15] <^osh^> Pupeno_: http://www.vmware.com/download/server/
[11:17] <Pupeno_> ^osh^: I can't download it without providing information, any mirror from where I can download the *sources* ?
[11:18] <^osh^> Pupeno_: Don't know. I do however seem to remember something about GPL in the EULA. I got it from the link I provided. There's also something about "Open Source" on that page.
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> Vmware is not not opensource
[11:19] <Pupeno_> ^osh^: if there's an EULA it is likely that it is not the GPL, mentioning GPL doesn't make it GPL.
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> (but there again neither is kqemu - which is needed to make qemu fast enough to use)
[11:20] <erikson> h3sp4wn: do you have qemu working ?
[11:20] <^osh^> Pupeno_: Right. I'm probably mistaken then. I don't really care though. It's a great tool for free.
[11:20] <^osh^> Pupeno_: Great for me anyway.
[11:21] <Pupeno_> h3sp4wn: that doesn't change anything regarding vmware. Both vmware and kqemu are proprietary. I've read someone is working on a free (as in freedom) replacement for kqemu.
[11:21] <h3sp4wn> Pupeno_: But qemu is free
[11:21] <Pupeno_> h3sp4wn: I've said nathing about qemu.
[11:22] <h3sp4wn> Pupeno_: and ?
[11:22] <Pupeno_> h3sp4wn: you said but, but it is not refuting anything.
[11:22] <Pupeno_> nevermind.
[11:23] <^osh^> Xen is free as in all meanings of the word isn't it?
[11:23] <h3sp4wn> erikson: Yes but need at least 0.81 for it to work properly with kqemu (as stated in the docs) I took the source from sid and installed the sparc openfirmware etc stuff just as debs
[11:25] <Pupeno_> ^osh^: afaik, yes.
[11:28] <dark_> What was the shortcut for paste in terminal
[11:28] <dark_> Ctrl + Insert?
[11:28] <dark_> Oh, it was shift insert
[11:28] <dark_> Nvm
[11:28] <bod_> Hi! Hey was anyone able to install sun's jdk1.5 with Adept ?
[11:29] <^osh^> !tell bod_ about easyubuntu
[11:29] <dark_> Hey, guys what do I need to compile stuff
[11:29] <dark_> sudo apt-get build-essential and linux-headers?
[11:30] <notamisfit> build-essential should do it
[11:30] <dark_> I need the headers also
[11:31] <dark_> What's the apt-get for the headers?
[11:31] <Pupeno_> dark_: click on edit and read the shortcuts.
[11:31] <Pupeno_> dark_: aptitude search linux | grep head
[11:32] <dark_> Ok, it found like all of the headers
[11:32] <lwizardl> how do i get stereo sound to work? all i'm getting is sound from the right speaker
[11:33] <dark_> Where are the C header files for my kernel?
[11:33] <DaSkreech> bod_: I have
[11:33] <dark_>  usr/src/linux/include?
[11:34] <bod_> DaSkreech: it seems that the install needs some user interaction (for accepting the licence) but it freezes the text display... Typing keys doesn't do anything
[11:35] <erikson> lwizardl: I have toask the obvious question , have you checked your speaker and soundcard connections ?
[11:35] <lwizardl> erikson, yes
[11:35] <erikson> balance cntrl?
[11:35] <erikson> in Kmix
[11:35] <lwizardl> erikson, if i turn on the 360 and switch to component video i get setero sound
[11:36] <DaSkreech> bod_: Where are you installing it?
[11:36] <DaSkreech> Adept?
[11:37] <lwizardl> where is balance control in kmix?
[11:37] <dark_> C header files that match my kernel..
[11:37] <dark_> Where would that be?
[11:37] <notamisfit> lwizardl: it's the slider at the bottom
[11:37] <erikson> slider at the bottom
[11:37] <lwizardl> erikson, then yeah its centered
[11:38] <lwizardl> i have 9 marks and its on the 5th
[11:38] <centyx> dark_: apt-cache search linux-headers
[11:39] <bod_> DaSkreech: yes Adept
[11:39] <centyx> or dark_ or just apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-26-686 or whatever kernel you got
[11:39] <erikson> yup, that's it alright ...dunno about 360 ...my souincard is pretty std 2ch
[11:39] <DaSkreech> try it in konsole
[11:39] <DaSkreech> It think it works better :)
[11:39] <lwizardl> hmm any issues known with nforce2 in kmix?
[11:39] <bod_> ok
[11:40] <centyx> anybody know a good itunes client for linux?
[11:40] <jaro> http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/~pbourke/geometry/minus1.html
[11:40] <erikson> component video is strictly video , how can that affect the sound ?
[11:40] <jaro> hehe
[11:40] <centyx> i read about one somewhere a while back
[11:40] <dark_> Thanks centyx
[11:41] <centyx> dark_: sure
[11:41] <DarkLegacy> Why does my nick always change to just "dark" ;\
[11:41] <centyx> DarkLegacy: using konversation?
[11:41] <DarkLegacy> Yes
[11:41] <DarkLegacy> It's my default username
[11:41] <DarkLegacy> I figured that out
[11:41] <DarkLegacy> Anyway, I did the command you told me, but where did it install the headers into?
[11:42] <DarkLegacy> nvm found it
[11:42] <centyx> k
[11:43] <centyx> DarkLegacy: in konversation, when the connection list comes up, click Edit, then click Edit again next to default identify
[11:43] <centyx> DarkLegacy: you can change ur nicks there
[11:44] <centyx> DarkLegacy: or if you're already connected, click on file/server list to bring it up
[11:47] <centyx> wow. all quiet.
[11:47] <centyx> weird.
[11:48] <qwertybob> im having some screen problems after mobo upgrade
[11:49] <qwertybob> ive tried booting from live cd same.. no usable x config
[11:49] <centyx> qwertybob: onboard video?
[11:49] <qwertybob> centyx: nvidia
[11:49] <qwertybob> i tried booting safe graphics mode or vesa also
[11:49] <centyx> weird
[11:50] <qwertybob> error is .. vesa v bios address 0x3b0 out of ranger
[11:50] <qwertybob> range soory
[11:50] <qwertybob> it always worked before, now im on amd64, so i tried the 64 bit iso
[11:51] <qwertybob> its same for live as hard drive installed ubuntu
[11:51] <flake> i have a question on users and permissions - I have a /home/gwendell set up, along with the default install - kubuntu.  Where should I be placing programs, files - the /usr/.. or the /home/gwendell/.. ?  what permissions do i need to be wary of giving?
[11:51] <qwertybob> kanotix boots fine though
[11:51] <flake> i feel like some of my questions should go in a forum
[11:51] <centyx> flake: that would probably be a good idea
[11:52] <flake> ok
[11:52] <centyx> flake: ubuntuforums.org/kubuntuforums.net
[11:52] <qwertybob> maybe my harware is not supported, but both zenlive, kanotix work
[11:52] <flake> thanks
[11:53] <qwertybob> trouble is i got all my files already here in kubuntu, dont want to change distros
[11:54] <qwertybob> im going to try ubuntu irc maybe
[11:54] <qwertybob> maybe its my bios setup
[11:55] <centyx> that's what i was thinking
[11:55] <centyx> oh he's gone
[11:56] <centyx> bleh
[11:57] <centyx> i'm ready to go home
[11:57] <vlt> Hello. I have installed Kubuntu Dapper and OpenOffice. I added a font (system wide) and it's shown in the system settings list. But when I want to use the font OpenOffice says it wasn't installed.
[11:57] <vlt> I restarted OpenOffice but the font doesn't appear.
[11:58] <centyx> "Exit OpenOffice and then run the program spadmin and click on the Fonts button."
[11:59] <centyx> heh
[11:59] <centyx> i don't have that file
[11:59] <centyx> n/m
[11:59] <drayen_> i've attached a sd card via a usb card reader, but kubuntu doesnt auto detect it... i can see it via lsusb, how would i mount it?
[11:59] <sean> i need someones help on a problem that just started happening yesterday
[11:59] <sean> the pop-up box keeps asking me for the password to my email account
[12:00] <vlt> centyx: There's no "spadmin" here. What is it?
[12:00] <lwizardl> can someone point me to a tutorial on how to make a folder shared only with 1 ip?
[12:00] <sean> any help?
[12:01] <centyx> centyx: i duno
[12:01] <centyx> er
[12:01] <centyx> i'm really tired
[12:01] <centyx> vlt: i duno
[12:01] <centyx> vlt: that was just something i found on google. i don't have that program either.
[12:02] <centyx> sorry
[12:02] <DaSkreech> centyx: It's cool man
[12:02] <DaSkreech>  Head on home
[12:02] <DaSkreech> Thanks
[12:02] <centyx> nah
[12:02] <centyx> i'm at work waiting for my ride
[12:03] <centyx> wife and i share a car
[12:04] <centyx> afk
[12:07] <centyx> re teknoprep
[12:07] <teknoprep> ?
[12:07] <teknoprep> rere