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nixternalblah blah blah blah12:31
MenZahalb halb halb halb12:32
MenZaDidn't see that coming now, did you?12:32
nixternalcan't say that i did ;)12:33
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nixternalinteresting12:37
nixternalblah blah blah blah doesn't constitute offtopic does it?  it really isn't a topic, so maybe we need to create nontopic12:37
gaz00Are you having an off-topic discussion about being off-topic?12:38
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jenda/j #ubuntu-nontopic12:42
nixternalhahahah12:42
nixternalthx jenda12:42
jendanp12:42
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m0gsiHey all01:27
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m0gsii think the advertising should be pink01:28
raptros-v76m0gsi: you think everything should be pink01:28
nixternali agree01:28
raptros-v76wow01:28
m0gsiwith ponies01:28
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raptros-v76and pink floyd01:28
m0gsiya pink floyd01:28
m0gsiSinging another brick in the wall to windows users01:28
byenrofl01:29
m0gsiwhy not?01:29
raptros-v76m0gsi: did you see their movie?01:29
m0gsiThey have a movie!?01:29
raptros-v76m0gsi: the rock oprah that goes with the album01:29
m0gsiI want it01:29
raptros-v76m0gsi: its pretty strange01:30
m0gsi*www.thepiratebay.org01:30
m0gsilol it's pink floyd01:30
m0gsiIt's gotta be strange!01:30
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nixternali can't believe i fed into that and watched that unfold right in front of me...you can kick me now if you want, just not in the shin, it is sore ;)01:33
Burgworktthat was very interesting01:33
nixternalyes it was01:34
nixternalim an idiot for not following that one01:34
Burgworkit think it is too friends, having some random fun01:34
Burgworks/too/two01:34
nixternalhehe01:34
nixternal#ubuntuforums of all places01:34
nixternalall 301:34
nixternalyou know what we found out actually... #ubuntuforums isn't even run by the actuall ubuntuforums admins at all..it was created by a group of forums dwellers01:35
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nixternalhiya Madpilot01:36
Madpilothi01:36
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nixternaljenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom/MockUp  is that how you want the ToC?  how about the logo portion?02:34
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adamant1988hello all.05:24
kgoetzhey adamant198805:24
adamant1988Wheew it's hot here...05:25
adamant1988lol05:25
nixternaloh no05:25
nixternalhttp://home.comcast.net/~nixternal/images/misc/yakuake.jpg05:25
nixternalthat is hawt05:25
adamant1988sure.05:26
adamant1988So anything interesting go on while I was at work?05:26
nixternalya05:26
kgoetzwhoa, thats hardcore nixternal05:26
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adamant1988I need to restart..05:27
adamant1988brb05:27
nixternali hope it does ;)05:27
ormiretthat's not very nice nixternal05:28
nixternalhahahah05:28
ormiretwhere's the famous ubunut love05:28
nixternali was going to say something bad about him just in case he read the logs, but i thought it would be unubuntu of me ;)05:29
nixternalhehe05:29
ormiret:)05:29
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ormiretmaybe the CoC does some good after all :)05:29
adamant1988I'm back05:29
nixternaloh it does ;)05:29
adamant1988my computer didn't break.05:30
nixternalarg, it didn't break ;(05:30
nixternalhahahaha05:30
adamant1988I love you too.05:30
kgoetzhehe05:30
nixternal[22:29]  * adamant1988 hopes this new update doesn't break his computer05:30
nixternal[22:29]  <nixternal> i hope it does ;)05:30
nixternal;)05:30
adamant1988I love you too.05:30
nixternalthen i was going to say something bad about you, like adamant1988 eats worm poop...just in case you read the logs05:31
nixternalhah05:31
nixternallove ya hun05:31
adamant1988you too sugar ;)05:31
kgoetzlol05:31
adamant1988back on topic.05:31
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nixternalhiya mindspin05:32
mindspinhi good morning ;)05:32
mindspinjust arrived back home from a night-job...05:32
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mindspin5:36 am here05:33
nixternalphew..time for sleep then ;)05:33
MenZamindspin: location?05:33
mindspingermany05:33
mindspinfrankfurt05:33
MenZaAha.05:34
MenZaGerrieland.05:34
MenZa;)05:34
mindspinnixternal: I'm not hat tired05:34
nixternali am ;)05:34
nixternaland it is only 10:30pm here05:34
hybridfriggin americans05:35
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nixternalhahaha05:35
kgoetzheh. 13:04 here, fwiw :P05:35
hybrid:)05:35
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hybridnixternal: that is only the northern part atm, the south is flooded05:36
nixternalso i have seen05:36
hybridyou know your state is screwy when the northern part is on fire but the south is flooded05:36
nixternalhaha05:37
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Codyhey05:43
hybridso then i said, I dont think Cody is *that* stupid05:43
hybridoh hey Cody :-p05:44
mindspin;-)05:48
adamant1988wow everyones is out to get everyone tonight...05:52
hybridlol05:55
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Codyhmmm...06:24
Codyvery funny hybrid06:24
hybridhows it going?06:24
Codygood, you?06:24
hybridpretty well06:24
Codygood, good06:25
Codyso what are you doing right now?06:25
hybridnot much. why?06:25
CodyI don't really have anything (quite rare) to do06:26
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Codyyour not doing anything06:29
adamant1988blast it all.06:30
Cody:O06:31
adamant1988suse should just die.06:31
adamant1988-_-06:31
adamant1988I can't make it slip up... I'm doing everything that the average user would do and it won't stop working.06:31
Codythat is not cool06:32
Codyhow is internet speed06:34
Codythat was the only real let-down for me06:34
adamant1988I can't really say I don't have it plugged in06:34
adamant1988but when I was using it last night pages loaded quickly and I didn't get much lag in IRC.06:35
adamant1988I say that Ubuntu could really benefit from the SLAB and integrated search.06:36
Codyyeah06:37
CodySuse doesn't ship free cds...06:42
adamant1988Yeah, Ubuntu is a lot easier to spread.06:42
adamant1988But in all seriousness, Suse has to be more newbiew friendly than anything I've seen.06:42
adamant1988There are video/sound tutorials waiting on the desktop, there's documentation, etc.06:43
adamant1988The shipit CDs are a plus for sure.06:45
Codyby far06:45
CodyDid it require much tweaking?06:45
CodyFor you?06:45
adamant1988Ubuntu or suse?06:46
adamant1988Suse I needed a to change the monitor resolution to get it running the way I wanted... was very simple to do via a tool in the control center06:49
Codysuse06:50
Codyreally06:50
adamant1988yeah... I'm almost tempted to give my technophobe fiance my laptop to see how she does with it.06:51
Codysounds like a good trial run06:51
adamant1988I know she'd use it because it's more powerful than her computer (double the ram).06:51
adamant1988Alas, SLED 10 has no repos yet, and I couldn't give it to her expecting her to figure THAT out.06:52
Codynice06:52
adamant1988Although she's participating in My Ubuntu blog program anyway (using it for two weeks, etc.)06:52
adamant1988so I could definitely put Ubuntu on it without any problems and give it to her.06:53
adamant1988but I know very well I would be giving help support for the first 24-48 hours because she wouldn't know what to do.06:53
adamant1988The only seriously huge let down in SUSE is that it took almost 15 minutes to install opera from an RPM06:57
Codyooohh...07:01
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adamant1988join the user lounge cody :)07:04
Codyok07:06
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Klaidasmorning07:37
MenZaindeed.07:42
MenZaMorning Klaidas07:42
hybridholas07:52
hybrid=( no spanish speakers07:53
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MenZane.08:05
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jendanixternal: yes, that's just it :)08:22
nixternalhuh?08:23
nixternalquit hoppin' around ;)08:23
nixternalblinkin' all my screens08:23
jendamuhaa... (nixternal!)08:25
nixternali caught ya almost ;)08:25
nixternalstill gave me the blinky blinks08:25
Madpilothttp://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu_poster01.png <-- amazing what five minutes in the GIMP & ten in Inkscape can give you :)08:36
Burgundaviavery cool08:36
Burgundaviaone minor piece I would do:08:36
Burgundaviamove the ubuntu logo to a white rounded rectangle and to the bottom08:37
jendanice08:37
Madpilotso swap 'Join the Circle' and the ubuntu logo's positions?08:39
Burgundaviayep08:39
Burgundaviaand add the white background to the logo08:39
jendaANd if it's supposed to be an actual poster - you need ubuntu.com on it somewhere too.08:39
Burgundaviayep08:41
Burgundaviavery bottom, outside the white08:41
Madpilothttp://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu_poster01a.png08:44
kgoetzcd cover like eh08:45
jendaI'd change the font of the tagline there08:45
jendaperhaps align it a bit to the left08:45
Madpilotkgoetz, actually, it's about the right proportions08:45
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Burgundaviaright08:46
nixternalhttp://home.comcast.net/~nixternal/images/misc/poster/poster1.png08:46
nixternalnow thats a poster ;)08:46
nixternal3'x4'08:47
kgoetzwhats ' mean?08:47
nixternalthat is a draft...i need to finish that one up08:47
nixternalfeet08:47
nixternal3feet by 4feet ;)08:47
kgoetzok :)08:47
nixternalhehe08:47
Madpilotnixternal, cool08:47
nixternaldon't ask me to break it down into meters..cuz i am done then ;)08:47
kgoetz3ft=1m~08:47
Madpilot1m x 1.3m, give or take08:48
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Madpilota big poster - what's that going to cost to print @ that size?08:48
nixternalfree08:49
kgoetz:o08:49
kgoetzbrb08:49
nixternalone of the guys on the LoCo works for the school district and can print them all day long i guess08:49
Madpilotsweet08:49
MenZaYou'll want a vector of that poster if you want to print it.08:49
adamant1988hello all.08:49
nixternalhttp://digg.com/linux_unix/The_Ubuntu_NewUserNetwork_to_Offer_Classes_for_New_Ubuntu_Users08:50
Madpilota full-res 300dpi image 3'x4' is going to be a freakin' massive image...08:50
nixternaldigg people digg..i know that was spam ;)08:50
MenZaMadpilot: it will suck if it's not a vector.08:50
MenZaTrust me, I work at a printer ;p08:51
MenZaIt's definitely doable, if you have it in a much higher res than you need08:51
MadpilotMenZa, if it's a 300+dpi bitmap it should be OK?08:51
MenZaAnd scale it down08:51
MenZaBut in most cases, vectors are the shiz08:51
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nixternalit is vector for the original08:52
MadpilotMenZa, can most shops these days handle SVGs?08:52
nixternalthe internet so you can all see version is png08:52
MenZaMadpilot: I'd go for EPS08:52
MenZaWe can, unless the file needs editing.08:52
Madpilotnixternal, is that skyline logo image in vector too?08:52
MenZa(we use Ilustrator 10. Sthitty software)08:52
nixternalhah...no ;)08:52
MenZanixternal: I assumed so ^^08:53
nixternalhehe08:53
jendaMenZa: does illustrator support svgs?08:53
MenZajenda: new version does.08:53
kgoetznot afaik08:53
MenZaCS, CS2.08:53
MenZa10 does.08:53
nixternalso, there are going to be issues when it comes time to print?08:53
MenZaAllegedly.08:53
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MenZaBut not really.08:53
MenZanixternal: pixelation :\08:53
jendaBut a printer will be able to accept that, then?08:53
jendaah08:53
nixternaleven if the poster was done in inkscape at the actuall sizes?08:54
Madpilotnixternal, how big was the original of the skyline image?08:54
MenZanixternal: well, that depends08:54
nixternal3 feet wide08:54
Madpilotnixternal, how many pixels wide?08:55
nixternal3k+08:55
nixternali actually made the skyline image smaller in the poster then it really is08:55
Madpilotwow. you should be OK, then08:55
nixternalfrom now on, im going to my brother-in-law..he owns his own printing company..and gets paid to do this stuff ;)08:56
Madpilotactually... 3000/36=83.something - you might still have a problem...08:57
nixternalim sure i will with my luck ;)08:57
jendanixternal: for real?08:59
jendaCan I count on him in the future? :)08:59
Madpilottweaked slightly: http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu_poster01a.png09:04
kgoetzubuntu.com looks like its in the wrong place09:06
mdkecool. what is it for?09:06
MenZaMadpilot: can I be honest?09:08
MenZame no likey09:08
MenZaWrong typefaces09:08
MenZaThe text/logo are too large09:08
Madpilotmdke, it's for messing around in Inkscape, mostly ;)09:08
MenZaOtherwise alright.09:08
mdkeMadpilot: ah :)09:08
Madpilotit's mostly thrown together, I won't claim it's been exhaustively designed :)09:08
jendahttps://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-marketing/+branch/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu09:18
jendaBTW ^09:18
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nixternalalright jenda, good job on bzr, got it dl'd here locally...im gonna pass out09:53
nixternalg'nite all09:53
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digitalmousegreetings programs!10:00
matthewrevellyo10:00
jendaoi10:01
jenda10:01
matthewrevell:)10:01
kgoetzhey :)10:02
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jendadon't look10:03
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WildTangenthello10:03
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jendaperfect10:03
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Madpilotjenda, testing something?10:07
jendayes, a script10:08
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jendasee? auto rejoin on remove ;)10:08
kgoetzheh10:08
nybbleoooooh...10:10
jendahello nybble ;) didn't notice you were here. Welcome10:13
nybblehehe, i'm good at sneaking in... lol.. hi10:14
nybblethat hybrid was trying to recruit me10:14
nybblelol10:14
jendasuccessfully?10:14
nybblei'm here, arent I?10:15
jenda10:15
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jendaWe're up next in #ubuntu-meeting10:16
nybblereally...10:18
nybble?10:18
Madpilotjenda, how soon is "up next"?10:19
jenda19:00 UTC10:19
nybblenext week... lol10:19
jendatoday :-D10:19
jendagotta run10:19
jendabye10:19
jendabe back in the evening10:19
nybble\ok10:20
nybbleok so 2:00 pm EST10:21
Madpilotnoon here - I'll be at work10:24
kgoetzhm. thats right. 3/4 am here10:28
Madpilotfun10:29
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kgoetzhi silbs11:03
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mindspincan anybody explain how to get access to the bzr marketing branch?12:55
kgoetzdo you have bazaar installed?12:56
mindspinyup12:57
kgoetzbazaar-ng infact12:57
mindspinand a ssh key12:57
mindspinbzg is installed12:57
kgoetzok, bzr checkout $link (ill just grab it)12:57
mindspinbzr checkout12:57
mindspinsftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu12:57
kgoetzbzr checkout sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu12:57
mindspinon konsole? or after starting bzg?12:58
kgoetzin konsole12:58
mindspinERROR: Not a branch: /home/mindspin/12:59
kgoetzwhat did you run?12:59
mindspinnothing ;-)01:00
kgoetz>.<01:00
mdkedoesn't work for me either01:00
mindspinso it seems it's not related to my stupidity ;-)01:01
mdkenope01:01
mdkewe need to go and find some documentation for bzr01:01
kgoetzhm. i would try, but i'm on a live cd. give me a few miinutes i'll connect home and try it01:01
kgoetzhm. seems my ssh key isnt there01:04
kgoetzmdke: mindspin try `bzr branch sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu`01:04
kgoetzdoes that work?01:04
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mdkeno01:05
mindspinbzr: ERROR: Not a branch: /home/mindspin/sftp:/bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu/01:05
kgoetzhm.01:05
kgoetzfor basic bzr help run 'bzr help' in a terminal, btw01:05
kgoetzlike svn01:05
mindspinjust did ;-)01:07
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kgoetz:)01:07
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kgoetzooh actualy - mindspin, did you use a dsa or rsa key in LP?01:08
mindspindsa01:08
mindspinas recommended01:09
kgoetzits the only one i have - i was worried for a moment :O01:09
mdkeyou shouldn't need the key to just checkout the branch, surely, only to commit01:09
kgoetzusing sftp (as that url is) you need a key full stop (read: key to connect)01:10
mdkeah01:10
mindspinwhat worries me is the /home/mindspin/  part of the error mesg01:11
mdkeanyway, bzr isn't trying to connect01:11
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kgoetzmindspin: i didnt get that01:11
mindspindo I have to create an empty branch (ie. folder) on my machine?01:12
kgoetzi got permision denied, so i tried putting in my key01:12
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kgoetzi made ~/temp in case stuff went crazy, so dunno01:12
kgoetzah, mindspin, try `bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubunt`01:14
kgoetzits connecting for me, dont know if it will get further or not01:14
kgoetzoh, thats missing a u, btw01:16
mindspinhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu: No such file or directory01:16
kgoetzyou have an extra colon/semicolon01:16
kgoetzat the end                                                                                                                           ^01:16
mindspinonly in the error mesg ;-)01:17
kgoetzkgoetz@Rommel:~/temp$ bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu01:17
kgoetz\ [=======                                                    ]  fetch phase 0/401:17
kgoetz^ 'working' for me01:17
mindspinworks here too01:18
mdkehere too01:18
mindspinok so far and now ?01:18
kgoetzit should download $stuff, and then you have a copy of whatevers in that repository01:19
kgoetzwhich should be 3 commits worth of data from jenda01:19
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kgoetzoooh oooh, i tworked01:20
mindspingot it in my /home directory01:20
kgoetzit should make a dir called 'spreadubuntu' and put stuff in htere01:21
mindspinyup it did01:21
kgoetzyay01:21
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kgoetzwb darkmatter_01:26
kgoetzjenda: we got connections to LP over http, sftp we had to many issues with01:26
darkmatter_:)01:26
kgoetz:o01:26
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kgoetzhow does jenda manage to do so much stuff and still be in 25 irc channels :( my excuse for doing bugger all was /i/ am in 15 channels :|01:28
kgoetzwb again :P01:28
mindspinhow does jenda manage to finish his studies btw. ;-)01:29
nybbleholy crap01:29
kgoetzdont remind me :|01:29
nybblesomeone drove into my tim hortons last night01:29
kgoetzyour whats?01:29
nybblewhere i work01:30
nybblesomeone drove  their truck into it01:30
kgoetzoh ok. as you do01:31
mindspinbzr branch sftp://mindspin@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu gives me a permission denied mesg01:56
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newz2000I could use some artistic assistance, if anyone feels so inclined04:53
newz2000Here's a URL with details: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2006-July/002470.html04:53
nixternalwheeee05:04
nixternalmoins all05:04
kgoetzhi you 205:04
mdkehey newz200005:07
newz2000hey05:07
Bigtoenixternal: how much time, per day, do you spend on your chicago loco?05:08
nixternal16 hours05:08
nixternallol05:08
Bigtoei can believe that05:08
nixternal16 hours of my day goes to Ubuntu05:08
nixternalone way or another05:08
nixternalmy family gets about 15 minutes, which is more then enough ;)05:09
Bigtoesee, that would work for me if I wanted a divorce05:09
newz2000Same here05:09
newz2000wife: "I feel bad... we only played together for 5 hours today."05:09
nixternalhahaha05:10
Bigtoemine is a little different05:10
nixternali already had the divorce...so im about as single as Ubuntu would let me ;)05:10
mindspinmine works 16 hours ;-)05:10
Bigtoe"your son is driving me crazy, will you take him somewhere? NOW!"05:10
Bigtoehe is always my son when he is misbehaving05:11
newz2000:-D05:11
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gnomefreakhi KenSentMe|vac05:45
gnomefreakoops05:45
gnomefreakhi kgoetz05:46
kgoetzhehe. hi mate05:46
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gaz00hi all... trying to checkout the spreadubuntu proposals that jenda posted yesterday05:46
gaz00do you have to be an active member of the marketing team to look at it?05:46
nixternalnope05:47
nixternalthats all you can do really is look at them, as the channel seems to be read only05:47
kgoetzhi gaz0005:47
gaz00kgoetz: hi!05:47
kgoetz:)05:47
gaz00that's what i thought.  but i'm getting read errors.  bbiab - -checking ssh keys05:48
gaz00nixternal: thx :)05:48
kgoetzgaz00: just use http05:48
nixternalnp bud ;)05:48
kgoetzWorked For Me05:48
kgoetzbzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu <- me05:49
kgoetzer, * what worked for me05:50
nixternalif i do it via http, there is nothing there05:50
nixternallooks empty05:50
kgoetzthe url does, but it finds files05:50
gaz00found the problem -  on tiger now and ports has bzr 0.7 up :s05:50
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matthewrevellguys06:03
matthewrevellLooks like I won't make it this evening :(06:03
kgoetz:(06:03
matthewrevellI'll be back to normal service soon.06:03
matthewrevellLife's a touch busy at the moment!06:03
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kgoetzhow long till the meeting?06:27
mindspin2.3006:28
kgoetzhm. not sure i can last that long :( i'm down to 3 stubbies, and sobering up during a meeting isnt a Good Idea06:29
Bigtoeyou have time to run to the store06:35
kgoetzBigtoe: at 2 am? :|06:36
Bigtoeah06:41
Bigtoeyeah, that won't work06:42
kgoetz:(06:42
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adamant1988hello all.07:25
kgoetzhye mate07:25
adamant1988my testimonial project is going to be a pain in the but to do...07:25
kgoetzhows it going? any joiy?07:26
kgoetzif its offical thers probably people i could as to join in07:26
adamant1988it hasn't been made an official project no07:26
adamant1988but I think I'm going to have to try to get it there07:26
kgoetzhm. it sounds interesting. is it on the agenda foar today?07:27
adamant1988because the best way to get in touch with people who aren't in the community is to have community members speak to them personally07:27
adamant1988no, I didn't add it because it's not in a state that there is much to discuss.07:27
adamant1988the problem with my idea is that I need to evolve it some07:27
mindspinadamant1988: where is the problem? the community is part of the concept, why should it be difficult to find average users as testimonials?07:29
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adamant1988mindspin, because getting average users willing to stick with it for at least 2 weeks is difficult...07:49
adamant1988it's easier to get people who are friends of community members already to participate.. and there is a LOT of community members... the problem is getting the community involved to that level...07:50
adamant1988be back at about 307:53
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kgoetznot long now08:26
mindspinget you a coffee kgoetz08:26
troy_sgreetings folks.08:26
kgoetzmindspin: i'm pretty tanked actually... hope i manage to stay awake :|08:27
mindspindont forget to join #ubuntu-meeting then ...08:29
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adamant1988i'll be in the meeting a little lat08:50
adamant1988late*08:50
a1eckshey guys08:51
Klaidasmeeting started :)08:51
Bigtoemy timezone is 8 minutes off08:52
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Klaidas* Ubugtu has changed the topic to: Current meeting: Marketing Team :)08:52
Klaidaseven tho there's still 5 minutes according to my clock :D08:52
kgoetzi saw it :)08:53
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a1eckshas anyone started on the spreadubuntu site design?08:54
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KlaidasMy first tmeeting :)08:55
kgoetzKlaidas: same :)08:55
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KlaidasThu Jul 13 21:59:06 EEST 200608:56
Bigtoealmost straight-up noon here08:56
kgoetzFri Jul 14 04:26 ACST 200608:56
Klaidaswoah08:56
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BigtoeUS west coast08:57
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kgoetzhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Meetings#head-6baae27adfb4dc945b7a6d79d82a947cc82e49ec08:59
kgoetz^ look ye all, tis the agenda for this meet08:59
kgoetzanyone for the meeting join #ubuntu-meeting now :) we should have started 2 minutes ago09:01
a1ecksi have been busy with other design work, i havent tried anything for spreadubuntu09:02
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Klaidashi there MenZa09:28
MenZalol09:28
MenZalo*09:28
kgoetzwb jenda:)09:32
jendaso... what's happening09:33
Klaidasmeeting :)09:33
MenZa:o09:33
kgoetzwe seem to be dragging our feet somewhat though :|09:33
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kgoetzadamant1988: btw, in 'otehr buiesness' bring up your idea for bloggin ubuntu09:35
jendaYou guys, could you tell me which topics were gone through in a few sentences?09:37
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adamant1988ok, I'll bring it up when other ideas comes up09:38
kgoetzone Point of contact, vote was no, thast about it really09:38
adamant1988I want to bring up the boxed sets too.09:38
kgoetzwe started 10-15 min late09:38
jendaGood.09:38
jendathanks09:38
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adamant1988bah09:53
Bigtoe?\09:53
adamant1988I'm goign to have to start getting ready for work soon.09:53
adamant1988I hope this meeting doesn't drag on much longer.09:53
Bigtoeaccording to the agenda, we are about finished09:54
kgoetzfwiw, i'm going to bed $soon, because i'm pretty useless as is :|09:54
Bigtoei hope you don't have to work later today09:55
adamant1988why's that bigtoe?09:55
Bigtoebecause of the hour in kgoetz's timezone09:55
Bigtoealmost 6am09:56
kgoetzBigtoe: its 5.26 here, its 5.56 where bimberi is, and lucky i dotn have to work toda y:|09:56
adamant1988oh I thought you meant me.09:56
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jendagnomefreak: meeting10:11
gnomefreakwhen?10:11
kgoetzan hour ago10:11
gnomefreaksorry10:11
kgoetzheh10:12
gnomefreakyou gonna have logs that i can look at later?10:12
adamant1988gah, I can't figure out launchpad, but I have to take a shower now, I'll be back10:13
adamant1988oh one last question before I go though10:13
adamant1988How seriously does canonical take us? (the marketing team)?10:13
gnomefreaknot sure yet10:14
adamant1988Gah nevermind then.10:14
adamant1988If I've learned anything from marketing classes it's that you don't just go to marketing people to advertise, you go to them for ideas.10:14
gnomefreakcorrect10:15
adamant1988I'm good at generating ideas, I was hoping I could get a group together to generate some useful ideas that could set Ubuntu apart as an OS.10:15
gnomefreakadamant1988: we need to go towards the windows users/linux users and see what they want10:16
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adamant1988I disagree, Apple had the right idea with the think different campaign.10:16
jendahello jbrouhard10:16
jbrouhardHowdy!10:16
adamant1988people like things that are foreign even if it intimidates them some, people are still fascinated by them.10:16
adamant1988That doesn't mean we can't accomodate Windows users, but we should do something without worrying where the box is.10:17
adamant1988the box kills innovation.10:17
Bigtoewhy not have two marketing paths then?10:17
gnomefreakapple went toward windows users why do you think everything is apple or windows10:17
kgoetzlack of resources?10:17
Bigtoegood point10:17
adamant1988they went towards windows users, but the interface is completely different, and it's not windows like at all.10:18
gnomefreakwasnt ubuntupeople a site idea?10:18
adamant1988I think so, I didn't join until ubuntupeople was taken down.10:18
jendano, it was a forum.10:19
adamant1988anywho, I'm going to write all this down when I get back... I'll make it my own personal pet project if the marketing team doesn't want to sanction it.10:19
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jendaadamant1988: I'll be against new MT projects untill SU or UM is up and running.10:22
adamant1988ok10:25
adamant1988I'll use that time to get my thoughts forumated.10:25
adamant1988formulated.10:25
jendaUse the time to make the time shorter :) Get SU up and running. I'm hoping it will be very possible to contribute after sunday.10:27
adamant1988I'll contribute what I can of course.10:28
jenda;)10:28
jbrouhardjenda: Is the deadline for proposals passed as far as website designs go ?10:29
jbrouhardfor SU ?10:29
jendajbrouhard: no, it has been extended :)10:29
jbrouhardOkay10:30
jbrouhardI might contribute a screenshot if I can get one ready...10:30
jbrouhardWhen's the new deadline ?10:30
jendanext week10:30
jbrouhardOk10:30
jendaOr, when the final design is chosen :-D10:30
jbrouhardOkay10:31
jbrouhardI'll see what I can do... I'm more than willing to help with any stuff y'all need ;)10:31
kgoetz_Awaynight all, catch you then :)10:31
troy_sgood work guys...10:31
troy_sand gals10:31
jendaphew10:31
jendathat was ... sweaty :)10:32
nixternalgood meeting10:34
jendanixternal: we can discuss that next time. i see no reason why not to take a meeting without me :-D10:35
Bigtoehow is a final design for SU going to be chosen?10:36
nixternaljbrouhard: introduce yourself if you are around!!!10:36
nixternaljenda: jbrouhard is the guy i was talking about web design wise10:36
jendaBigtoe: we discuss on the meeting...10:37
jendawe discuss some more...10:37
jendathen we vote10:37
jendadiscuss the results...10:37
nixternalhe is a bud of imbrandon's, and is local to him, so i am sure he is legit..i have seen his work, and he is decent..we just need to get him away from freakin' IE tabs and views and what not10:37
jendagreat ;)10:37
nixternalhe is doing math homework i think right now...so he is kind of in and out right now10:37
nixternalhe is always on line..more then me i think10:37
jendaBigtoe: and then... when the team says what it thinks, I say the opposite and it's the valid choice...10:38
jenda:-D10:38
nixternalhaha10:38
jendaJust kidding10:38
Bigtoehahah10:38
nixternalNO HE'S NOT!!!10:38
jbrouhardOH.  Sorry, guys..10:38
jendaAlright, I'm not :)10:38
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ompaulyou should be :-)10:38
nixternalarg i want the cloak already ;)10:38
jbrouhardLOL10:38
jbrouhardI'm Joe Brouhard for those of you wondering.10:39
bimberijenda: 21st is a Friday OK?10:39
nixternalhe is a ninja dude ;)10:39
jbrouhardimbrandon introduced me to kubuntu a while ago, and i've been enjoying it ;)10:39
jendaI'll try to make the decision reflect the will of the team, of course, not the opposite 10:39
jbrouhardninja?  hah10:39
nixternalhehe10:39
jbrouhardI'm just a 1st Degree Black Belt in Taekwondo :P10:39
nixternalnice10:39
jendabimberi: yes10:39
jbrouhardSOON TO BE 2nd Degree ;)10:39
bimberikk10:39
jbrouhardAnyway10:39
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jendagood thing this is only IRC ;)10:39
nixternaljbrouhard the man to talk to about the "SpreadUbuntu" design is jenda, he will knock you around and let you know what he wants10:39
jbrouhardI'm a Computer/Network Technician, Web Designer/Developer (freelance mostly)...10:39
jbrouhardhehe ;)10:40
nixternalin otherword, jbrouhard is unemployed just like me ;)10:40
jbrouhardTechnically, not unemployed10:40
jbrouhardI work for the school that trained me in Taekwondo as an Instructor10:40
nixternalus americans always say we are "freelancers" when we are unemployed10:40
nixternallol10:40
jbrouhardand their all-around computer guy <G>10:40
nixternalya..ok...10:40
nixternal;)10:40
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nixternalwb sara10:40
Bigtoeim employed10:40
Bigtoegot way too hungry being "freelance"10:41
_sarayeah I got disconnected10:41
nixternalhahah Bigtoe10:41
jbrouhardBigtoe: I get by :)10:41
jbrouhardNot enough,but close ;)10:41
Bigtoeit's no picnic having 7 bosses though10:42
jbrouhardTho i wish one of my clients would stop dragging their feet and pay me already...10:42
jbrouhardi've had their site done for 3 weeks10:42
jbrouhardand they haven't paid me :(10:42
jbrouhardAnyway, that's another story.. :)10:42
Bigtoewhat do you use for webdev?10:43
jbrouhardAnyways.. jenda, is there any specific design, layout or color scheme you're wanting to use for SU ?  I can toy with color schemes here10:43
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jbrouhardPrimarily, I'm trying to get used to quanta10:43
jbrouhardi've been a Dreamweaver user for ages.10:44
Bigtoei like quanta, but have been using bluefish and screem just to be familiar10:44
jbrouhardI also have NVU10:45
jbrouhardbut haven't touched it10:45
jendajbrouhard: I wan't it to be simple, brown, Ubuntu :)10:45
jbrouhard<-- does nearly all graphical work in Adobe Photoshop tho...10:45
jbrouhardOkay10:45
jbrouhardsimple, brown...10:45
jbrouhardLOL10:45
jendahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/SpreadUbuntu#head-0202bdc0f2e0e5d3cb074109cf42d8a323126c6110:45
jendaHave a look at those10:45
jbrouhardI was looking at them10:45
jbrouhardI was debating on taking a shot at the style that FreeBSD.org is using10:45
jendaThe ones at the bottom are mine... so the closer you are to those... :-D10:45
jbrouhardJust change the color and format <G>10:45
jbrouhardLOL!10:45
Bigtoeheh10:46
jendaWell, honestly, I'm looking for very simple, more graphics and gradients than text10:46
Bigtoechose any you want as long as you choose one of jenda's10:46
jendaNo links other than in-text and the -it ;)10:46
jendaBigtoe: that was a joke.10:46
Bigtoei know10:46
jendaI suck at web design, and those aren't even webdesigns10:47
Bigtoei may not have any graphics skills, but i do have a sense of humor10:47
jendaI tried to communicate what I had in mind, but to no avail :)10:47
jbrouhardWell..10:47
jbrouhardPersonally, i've been a big fan of "balancing" graphics with text10:47
jendaof course10:48
jbrouhardi.e. if you have more text, and no graphics, the site becomes insanely boring and plain right?10:48
jendaBut this mockup should really be even for very simple, possibly tired people :)10:48
jbrouhardif you reverse it, the site becomes "too colorful"and hard to navigate ;)10:48
jendayes10:48
jbrouhardhehe10:48
jbrouhardI'll see what I can come up with10:48
jendacompare gnu.org10:48
jenda:)10:48
jendathanks10:48
jbrouhardI've been a big fan of the FreeBSD/RedHat websites.. they're pretty kewl and simplistic by themselves10:48
jbrouhardBut.. alas..10:49
jbrouhardNever tried to design them like that ;)10:49
jendaThe point is for the person to see and read at least the beginning of the text, then notice the big links10:49
jbrouhardAh10:49
jbrouhardOk10:49
jendaThey are 'simple' in a different way.10:49
jendaYou have to look around for several seconds to find what you need - and I want to avoid that.10:49
jbrouhardLike I said, it'll take me a bit to come up with something, so.. :)10:50
jbrouhardEh...10:50
jendaNo worries. THere's at least a week of time.10:50
jbrouhardI can hit this from a business point of view if you like10:50
jbrouhardAnyway10:51
jbrouhardI'm off to teach kids how to kick and punch10:51
jendaNot sure what you mean, but SU, compared to ubuntu.com, should not look as 'corporate' or proffesional. (The design should be done proffessionally, though :))10:51
jbrouhardand HOPEFULLY not get killed tonight10:51
jendahehe ;10:51
jbrouhardAh10:51
jbrouhardOk10:51
jenda)10:51
jendagood luck.10:51
jbrouhardEven if I don't get picked...10:51
jbrouhardI'd be happy to help with anything ;)10:51
jenda(I wanted friendly and artistic in comparison to that ;) )10:52
jendaBTW, it will end up with an amalgam of the designs, most probably.10:52
jendaEnjoy the class ;)10:52
jbrouhardAh10:52
jbrouhardyeah right :)10:52
jendaand thanks for your help.10:52
jbrouhard-afkmy pleasure10:52
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a1eckswot wot11:38
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