[12:31] <nixternal> blah blah blah blah
[12:32] <MenZa> halb halb halb halb
[12:32] <MenZa> Didn't see that coming now, did you?
[12:33] <nixternal> can't say that i did ;)
[12:37] <nixternal> interesting
[12:37] <nixternal> blah blah blah blah doesn't constitute offtopic does it?  it really isn't a topic, so maybe we need to create nontopic
[12:38] <gaz00> Are you having an off-topic discussion about being off-topic?
[12:42] <jenda> /j #ubuntu-nontopic
[12:42] <nixternal> hahahah
[12:42] <nixternal> thx jenda
[12:42] <jenda> np
[01:27] <m0gsi> Hey all
[01:28] <m0gsi> i think the advertising should be pink
[01:28] <raptros-v76> m0gsi: you think everything should be pink
[01:28] <nixternal> i agree
[01:28] <raptros-v76> wow
[01:28] <m0gsi> with ponies
[01:28] <raptros-v76> and pink floyd
[01:28] <m0gsi> ya pink floyd
[01:28] <m0gsi> Singing another brick in the wall to windows users
[01:29] <byen> rofl
[01:29] <m0gsi> why not?
[01:29] <raptros-v76> m0gsi: did you see their movie?
[01:29] <m0gsi> They have a movie!?
[01:29] <raptros-v76> m0gsi: the rock oprah that goes with the album
[01:29] <m0gsi> I want it
[01:30] <raptros-v76> m0gsi: its pretty strange
[01:30] <m0gsi> *www.thepiratebay.org
[01:30] <m0gsi> lol it's pink floyd
[01:30] <m0gsi> It's gotta be strange!
[01:33] <nixternal> i can't believe i fed into that and watched that unfold right in front of me...you can kick me now if you want, just not in the shin, it is sore ;)
[01:33] <Burgwork> tthat was very interesting
[01:34] <nixternal> yes it was
[01:34] <nixternal> im an idiot for not following that one
[01:34] <Burgwork> it think it is too friends, having some random fun
[01:34] <Burgwork> s/too/two
[01:34] <nixternal> hehe
[01:34] <nixternal> #ubuntuforums of all places
[01:34] <nixternal> all 3
[01:35] <nixternal> you know what we found out actually... #ubuntuforums isn't even run by the actuall ubuntuforums admins at all..it was created by a group of forums dwellers
[01:36] <nixternal> hiya Madpilot
[01:36] <Madpilot> hi
[02:34] <nixternal> jenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom/MockUp  is that how you want the ToC?  how about the logo portion?
[05:24] <adamant1988> hello all.
[05:24] <kgoetz> hey adamant1988
[05:25] <adamant1988> Wheew it's hot here...
[05:25] <adamant1988> lol
[05:25] <nixternal> oh no
[05:25] <nixternal> http://home.comcast.net/~nixternal/images/misc/yakuake.jpg
[05:25] <nixternal> that is hawt
[05:26] <adamant1988> sure.
[05:26] <adamant1988> So anything interesting go on while I was at work?
[05:26] <nixternal> ya
[05:26] <kgoetz> whoa, thats hardcore nixternal
[05:27] <adamant1988> I need to restart..
[05:27] <adamant1988> brb
[05:27] <nixternal> i hope it does ;)
[05:28] <ormiret> that's not very nice nixternal
[05:28] <nixternal> hahahah
[05:28] <ormiret> where's the famous ubunut love
[05:29] <nixternal> i was going to say something bad about him just in case he read the logs, but i thought it would be unubuntu of me ;)
[05:29] <nixternal> hehe
[05:29] <ormiret> :)
[05:29] <ormiret> maybe the CoC does some good after all :)
[05:29] <adamant1988> I'm back
[05:29] <nixternal> oh it does ;)
[05:30] <adamant1988> my computer didn't break.
[05:30] <nixternal> arg, it didn't break ;(
[05:30] <nixternal> hahahaha
[05:30] <adamant1988> I love you too.
[05:30] <kgoetz> hehe
[05:30] <nixternal> [22:29]  * adamant1988 hopes this new update doesn't break his computer
[05:30] <nixternal> [22:29]  <nixternal> i hope it does ;)
[05:30] <nixternal> ;)
[05:30] <adamant1988> I love you too.
[05:31] <nixternal> then i was going to say something bad about you, like adamant1988 eats worm poop...just in case you read the logs
[05:31] <nixternal> hah
[05:31] <nixternal> love ya hun
[05:31] <adamant1988> you too sugar ;)
[05:31] <kgoetz> lol
[05:31] <adamant1988> back on topic.
[05:32] <nixternal> hiya mindspin
[05:32] <mindspin> hi good morning ;)
[05:32] <mindspin> just arrived back home from a night-job...
[05:33] <mindspin> 5:36 am here
[05:33] <nixternal> phew..time for sleep then ;)
[05:33] <MenZa> mindspin: location?
[05:33] <mindspin> germany
[05:33] <mindspin> frankfurt
[05:34] <MenZa> Aha.
[05:34] <MenZa> Gerrieland.
[05:34] <MenZa> ;)
[05:34] <mindspin> nixternal: I'm not hat tired
[05:34] <nixternal> i am ;)
[05:34] <nixternal> and it is only 10:30pm here
[05:35] <hybrid> friggin americans
[05:35] <nixternal> hahaha
[05:35] <kgoetz> heh. 13:04 here, fwiw :P
[05:35] <hybrid> :)
[05:36] <hybrid> nixternal: that is only the northern part atm, the south is flooded
[05:36] <nixternal> so i have seen
[05:36] <hybrid> you know your state is screwy when the northern part is on fire but the south is flooded
[05:37] <nixternal> haha
[05:43] <Cody> hey
[05:43] <hybrid> so then i said, I dont think Cody is *that* stupid
[05:44] <hybrid> oh hey Cody :-p
[05:48] <mindspin> ;-)
[05:52] <adamant1988> wow everyones is out to get everyone tonight...
[05:55] <hybrid> lol
[06:24] <Cody> hmmm...
[06:24] <Cody> very funny hybrid
[06:24] <hybrid> hows it going?
[06:24] <Cody> good, you?
[06:24] <hybrid> pretty well
[06:25] <Cody> good, good
[06:25] <Cody> so what are you doing right now?
[06:25] <hybrid> not much. why?
[06:26] <Cody> I don't really have anything (quite rare) to do
[06:29] <Cody> your not doing anything
[06:30] <adamant1988> blast it all.
[06:31] <Cody> :O
[06:31] <adamant1988> suse should just die.
[06:31] <adamant1988> -_-
[06:31] <adamant1988> I can't make it slip up... I'm doing everything that the average user would do and it won't stop working.
[06:32] <Cody> that is not cool
[06:34] <Cody> how is internet speed
[06:34] <Cody> that was the only real let-down for me
[06:34] <adamant1988> I can't really say I don't have it plugged in
[06:35] <adamant1988> but when I was using it last night pages loaded quickly and I didn't get much lag in IRC.
[06:36] <adamant1988> I say that Ubuntu could really benefit from the SLAB and integrated search.
[06:37] <Cody> yeah
[06:42] <Cody> Suse doesn't ship free cds...
[06:42] <adamant1988> Yeah, Ubuntu is a lot easier to spread.
[06:42] <adamant1988> But in all seriousness, Suse has to be more newbiew friendly than anything I've seen.
[06:43] <adamant1988> There are video/sound tutorials waiting on the desktop, there's documentation, etc.
[06:45] <adamant1988> The shipit CDs are a plus for sure.
[06:45] <Cody> by far
[06:45] <Cody> Did it require much tweaking?
[06:45] <Cody> For you?
[06:46] <adamant1988> Ubuntu or suse?
[06:49] <adamant1988> Suse I needed a to change the monitor resolution to get it running the way I wanted... was very simple to do via a tool in the control center
[06:50] <Cody> suse
[06:50] <Cody> really
[06:51] <adamant1988> yeah... I'm almost tempted to give my technophobe fiance my laptop to see how she does with it.
[06:51] <Cody> sounds like a good trial run
[06:51] <adamant1988> I know she'd use it because it's more powerful than her computer (double the ram).
[06:52] <adamant1988> Alas, SLED 10 has no repos yet, and I couldn't give it to her expecting her to figure THAT out.
[06:52] <Cody> nice
[06:52] <adamant1988> Although she's participating in My Ubuntu blog program anyway (using it for two weeks, etc.)
[06:53] <adamant1988> so I could definitely put Ubuntu on it without any problems and give it to her.
[06:53] <adamant1988> but I know very well I would be giving help support for the first 24-48 hours because she wouldn't know what to do.
[06:57] <adamant1988> The only seriously huge let down in SUSE is that it took almost 15 minutes to install opera from an RPM
[07:01] <Cody> ooohh...
[07:04] <adamant1988> join the user lounge cody :)
[07:06] <Cody> ok
[07:37] <Klaidas> morning
[07:42] <MenZa> indeed.
[07:42] <MenZa> Morning Klaidas
[07:52] <hybrid> holas
[07:53] <hybrid> =( no spanish speakers
[08:05] <MenZa> ne.
[08:22] <jenda> nixternal: yes, that's just it :)
[08:23] <nixternal> huh?
[08:23] <nixternal> quit hoppin' around ;)
[08:23] <nixternal> blinkin' all my screens
[08:25] <jenda> muhaa... (nixternal!)
[08:25] <nixternal> i caught ya almost ;)
[08:25] <nixternal> still gave me the blinky blinks
[08:36] <Madpilot> http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu_poster01.png <-- amazing what five minutes in the GIMP & ten in Inkscape can give you :)
[08:36] <Burgundavia> very cool
[08:36] <Burgundavia> one minor piece I would do:
[08:37] <Burgundavia> move the ubuntu logo to a white rounded rectangle and to the bottom
[08:37] <jenda> nice
[08:39] <Madpilot> so swap 'Join the Circle' and the ubuntu logo's positions?
[08:39] <Burgundavia> yep
[08:39] <Burgundavia> and add the white background to the logo
[08:39] <jenda> ANd if it's supposed to be an actual poster - you need ubuntu.com on it somewhere too.
[08:41] <Burgundavia> yep
[08:41] <Burgundavia> very bottom, outside the white
[08:44] <Madpilot> http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu_poster01a.png
[08:45] <kgoetz> cd cover like eh
[08:45] <jenda> I'd change the font of the tagline there
[08:45] <jenda> perhaps align it a bit to the left
[08:45] <Madpilot> kgoetz, actually, it's about the right proportions
[08:46] <Burgundavia> right
[08:46] <nixternal> http://home.comcast.net/~nixternal/images/misc/poster/poster1.png
[08:46] <nixternal> now thats a poster ;)
[08:47] <nixternal> 3'x4'
[08:47] <kgoetz> whats ' mean?
[08:47] <nixternal> that is a draft...i need to finish that one up
[08:47] <nixternal> feet
[08:47] <nixternal> 3feet by 4feet ;)
[08:47] <kgoetz> ok :)
[08:47] <nixternal> hehe
[08:47] <Madpilot> nixternal, cool
[08:47] <nixternal> don't ask me to break it down into meters..cuz i am done then ;)
[08:47] <kgoetz> 3ft=1m~
[08:48] <Madpilot> 1m x 1.3m, give or take
[08:48] <Madpilot> a big poster - what's that going to cost to print @ that size?
[08:49] <nixternal> free
[08:49] <kgoetz> :o
[08:49] <kgoetz> brb
[08:49] <nixternal> one of the guys on the LoCo works for the school district and can print them all day long i guess
[08:49] <Madpilot> sweet
[08:49] <MenZa> You'll want a vector of that poster if you want to print it.
[08:49] <adamant1988> hello all.
[08:50] <nixternal> http://digg.com/linux_unix/The_Ubuntu_NewUserNetwork_to_Offer_Classes_for_New_Ubuntu_Users
[08:50] <Madpilot> a full-res 300dpi image 3'x4' is going to be a freakin' massive image...
[08:50] <nixternal> digg people digg..i know that was spam ;)
[08:50] <MenZa> Madpilot: it will suck if it's not a vector.
[08:51] <MenZa> Trust me, I work at a printer ;p
[08:51] <MenZa> It's definitely doable, if you have it in a much higher res than you need
[08:51] <Madpilot> MenZa, if it's a 300+dpi bitmap it should be OK?
[08:51] <MenZa> And scale it down
[08:51] <MenZa> But in most cases, vectors are the shiz
[08:52] <nixternal> it is vector for the original
[08:52] <Madpilot> MenZa, can most shops these days handle SVGs?
[08:52] <nixternal> the internet so you can all see version is png
[08:52] <MenZa> Madpilot: I'd go for EPS
[08:52] <MenZa> We can, unless the file needs editing.
[08:52] <Madpilot> nixternal, is that skyline logo image in vector too?
[08:52] <MenZa> (we use Ilustrator 10. Sthitty software)
[08:52] <nixternal> hah...no ;)
[08:53] <MenZa> nixternal: I assumed so ^^
[08:53] <nixternal> hehe
[08:53] <jenda> MenZa: does illustrator support svgs?
[08:53] <MenZa> jenda: new version does.
[08:53] <kgoetz> not afaik
[08:53] <MenZa> CS, CS2.
[08:53] <MenZa> 10 does.
[08:53] <nixternal> so, there are going to be issues when it comes time to print?
[08:53] <MenZa> Allegedly.
[08:53] <MenZa> But not really.
[08:53] <MenZa> nixternal: pixelation :\
[08:53] <jenda> But a printer will be able to accept that, then?
[08:53] <jenda> ah
[08:54] <nixternal> even if the poster was done in inkscape at the actuall sizes?
[08:54] <Madpilot> nixternal, how big was the original of the skyline image?
[08:54] <MenZa> nixternal: well, that depends
[08:54] <nixternal> 3 feet wide
[08:55] <Madpilot> nixternal, how many pixels wide?
[08:55] <nixternal> 3k+
[08:55] <nixternal> i actually made the skyline image smaller in the poster then it really is
[08:55] <Madpilot> wow. you should be OK, then
[08:56] <nixternal> from now on, im going to my brother-in-law..he owns his own printing company..and gets paid to do this stuff ;)
[08:57] <Madpilot> actually... 3000/36=83.something - you might still have a problem...
[08:57] <nixternal> im sure i will with my luck ;)
[08:59] <jenda> nixternal: for real?
[08:59] <jenda> Can I count on him in the future? :)
[09:04] <Madpilot> tweaked slightly: http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu_poster01a.png
[09:06] <kgoetz> ubuntu.com looks like its in the wrong place
[09:06] <mdke> cool. what is it for?
[09:08] <MenZa> Madpilot: can I be honest?
[09:08] <MenZa> me no likey
[09:08] <MenZa> Wrong typefaces
[09:08] <MenZa> The text/logo are too large
[09:08] <Madpilot> mdke, it's for messing around in Inkscape, mostly ;)
[09:08] <MenZa> Otherwise alright.
[09:08] <mdke> Madpilot: ah :)
[09:08] <Madpilot> it's mostly thrown together, I won't claim it's been exhaustively designed :)
[09:18] <jenda> https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-marketing/+branch/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu
[09:18] <jenda> BTW ^
[09:53] <nixternal> alright jenda, good job on bzr, got it dl'd here locally...im gonna pass out
[09:53] <nixternal> g'nite all
[10:00] <digitalmouse> greetings programs!
[10:00] <matthewrevell> yo
[10:01] <jenda> oi
[10:01] <jenda> 
[10:01] <matthewrevell> :)
[10:02] <kgoetz> hey :)
[10:03] <jenda> don't look
[10:03] <WildTangent> hello
[10:03] <jenda> perfect
[10:07] <Madpilot> jenda, testing something?
[10:08] <jenda> yes, a script
[10:08] <jenda> see? auto rejoin on remove ;)
[10:08] <kgoetz> heh
[10:10] <nybble> oooooh...
[10:13] <jenda> hello nybble ;) didn't notice you were here. Welcome
[10:14] <nybble> hehe, i'm good at sneaking in... lol.. hi
[10:14] <nybble> that hybrid was trying to recruit me
[10:14] <nybble> lol
[10:14] <jenda> successfully?
[10:15] <nybble> i'm here, arent I?
[10:15] <jenda> 
[10:16] <jenda> We're up next in #ubuntu-meeting
[10:18] <nybble> really...
[10:18] <nybble> ?
[10:19] <Madpilot> jenda, how soon is "up next"?
[10:19] <jenda> 19:00 UTC
[10:19] <nybble> next week... lol
[10:19] <jenda> today :-D
[10:19] <jenda> gotta run
[10:19] <jenda> bye
[10:19] <jenda> be back in the evening
[10:20] <nybble> \ok
[10:21] <nybble> ok so 2:00 pm EST
[10:24] <Madpilot> noon here - I'll be at work
[10:28] <kgoetz> hm. thats right. 3/4 am here
[10:29] <Madpilot> fun
[10:32] <nybble> loads
[11:03] <kgoetz> hi silbs
[12:55] <mindspin> can anybody explain how to get access to the bzr marketing branch?
[12:56] <kgoetz> do you have bazaar installed?
[12:57] <mindspin> yup
[12:57] <kgoetz> bazaar-ng infact
[12:57] <mindspin> and a ssh key
[12:57] <mindspin> bzg is installed
[12:57] <kgoetz> ok, bzr checkout $link (ill just grab it)
[12:57] <mindspin> bzr checkout
[12:57] <mindspin> sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu
[12:57] <kgoetz> bzr checkout sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu
[12:58] <mindspin> on konsole? or after starting bzg?
[12:58] <kgoetz> in konsole
[12:59] <mindspin> ERROR: Not a branch: /home/mindspin/
[12:59] <kgoetz> what did you run?
[01:00] <mindspin> nothing ;-)
[01:00] <kgoetz> >.<
[01:00] <mdke> doesn't work for me either
[01:01] <mindspin> so it seems it's not related to my stupidity ;-)
[01:01] <mdke> nope
[01:01] <mdke> we need to go and find some documentation for bzr
[01:01] <kgoetz> hm. i would try, but i'm on a live cd. give me a few miinutes i'll connect home and try it
[01:04] <kgoetz> hm. seems my ssh key isnt there
[01:04] <kgoetz> mdke: mindspin try `bzr branch sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu`
[01:04] <kgoetz> does that work?
[01:05] <mdke> no
[01:05] <mindspin> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: /home/mindspin/sftp:/bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu/
[01:05] <kgoetz> hm.
[01:05] <kgoetz> for basic bzr help run 'bzr help' in a terminal, btw
[01:05] <kgoetz> like svn
[01:07] <mindspin> just did ;-)
[01:07] <kgoetz> :)
[01:08] <kgoetz> ooh actualy - mindspin, did you use a dsa or rsa key in LP?
[01:08] <mindspin> dsa
[01:09] <mindspin> as recommended
[01:09] <kgoetz> its the only one i have - i was worried for a moment :O
[01:09] <mdke> you shouldn't need the key to just checkout the branch, surely, only to commit
[01:10] <kgoetz> using sftp (as that url is) you need a key full stop (read: key to connect)
[01:10] <mdke> ah
[01:11] <mindspin> what worries me is the /home/mindspin/  part of the error mesg
[01:11] <mdke> anyway, bzr isn't trying to connect
[01:11] <kgoetz> mindspin: i didnt get that
[01:12] <mindspin> do I have to create an empty branch (ie. folder) on my machine?
[01:12] <kgoetz> i got permision denied, so i tried putting in my key
[01:12] <kgoetz> i made ~/temp in case stuff went crazy, so dunno
[01:14] <kgoetz> ah, mindspin, try `bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubunt`
[01:14] <kgoetz> its connecting for me, dont know if it will get further or not
[01:16] <kgoetz> oh, thats missing a u, btw
[01:16] <mindspin> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu: No such file or directory
[01:16] <kgoetz> you have an extra colon/semicolon
[01:16] <kgoetz> at the end                                                                                                                           ^
[01:17] <mindspin> only in the error mesg ;-)
[01:17] <kgoetz> kgoetz@Rommel:~/temp$ bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu
[01:17] <kgoetz> \ [[01:17] <kgoetz> ^ 'working' for me
[01:18] <mindspin> works here too
[01:18] <mdke> here too
[01:18] <mindspin> ok so far and now ?
[01:19] <kgoetz> it should download $stuff, and then you have a copy of whatevers in that repository
[01:19] <kgoetz> which should be 3 commits worth of data from jenda
[01:20] <kgoetz> oooh oooh, i tworked
[01:20] <mindspin> got it in my /home directory
[01:21] <kgoetz> it should make a dir called 'spreadubuntu' and put stuff in htere
[01:21] <mindspin> yup it did
[01:21] <kgoetz> yay
[01:26] <kgoetz> wb darkmatter_
[01:26] <kgoetz> jenda: we got connections to LP over http, sftp we had to many issues with
[01:26] <darkmatter_> :)
[01:26] <kgoetz> :o
[01:28] <kgoetz> how does jenda manage to do so much stuff and still be in 25 irc channels :( my excuse for doing bugger all was /i/ am in 15 channels :|
[01:28] <kgoetz> wb again :P
[01:29] <mindspin> how does jenda manage to finish his studies btw. ;-)
[01:29] <nybble> holy crap
[01:29] <kgoetz> dont remind me :|
[01:29] <nybble> someone drove into my tim hortons last night
[01:29] <kgoetz> your whats?
[01:30] <nybble> where i work
[01:30] <nybble> someone drove  their truck into it
[01:31] <kgoetz> oh ok. as you do
[01:56] <mindspin> bzr branch sftp://mindspin@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu gives me a permission denied mesg
[04:53] <newz2000> I could use some artistic assistance, if anyone feels so inclined
[04:53] <newz2000> Here's a URL with details: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2006-July/002470.html
[05:04] <nixternal> wheeee
[05:04] <nixternal> moins all
[05:04] <kgoetz> hi you 2
[05:07] <mdke> hey newz2000
[05:07] <newz2000> hey
[05:08] <Bigtoe> nixternal: how much time, per day, do you spend on your chicago loco?
[05:08] <nixternal> 16 hours
[05:08] <nixternal> lol
[05:08] <Bigtoe> i can believe that
[05:08] <nixternal> 16 hours of my day goes to Ubuntu
[05:08] <nixternal> one way or another
[05:09] <nixternal> my family gets about 15 minutes, which is more then enough ;)
[05:09] <Bigtoe> see, that would work for me if I wanted a divorce
[05:09] <newz2000> Same here
[05:09] <newz2000> wife: "I feel bad... we only played together for 5 hours today."
[05:10] <nixternal> hahaha
[05:10] <Bigtoe> mine is a little different
[05:10] <nixternal> i already had the divorce...so im about as single as Ubuntu would let me ;)
[05:10] <mindspin> mine works 16 hours ;-)
[05:10] <Bigtoe> "your son is driving me crazy, will you take him somewhere? NOW!"
[05:11] <Bigtoe> he is always my son when he is misbehaving
[05:11] <newz2000> :-D
[05:45] <gnomefreak> hi KenSentMe|vac
[05:45] <gnomefreak> oops
[05:46] <gnomefreak> hi kgoetz
[05:46] <kgoetz> hehe. hi mate
[05:46] <gaz00> hi all... trying to checkout the spreadubuntu proposals that jenda posted yesterday
[05:46] <gaz00> do you have to be an active member of the marketing team to look at it?
[05:47] <nixternal> nope
[05:47] <nixternal> thats all you can do really is look at them, as the channel seems to be read only
[05:47] <kgoetz> hi gaz00
[05:47] <gaz00> kgoetz: hi!
[05:47] <kgoetz> :)
[05:48] <gaz00> that's what i thought.  but i'm getting read errors.  bbiab - -checking ssh keys
[05:48] <gaz00> nixternal: thx :)
[05:48] <kgoetz> gaz00: just use http
[05:48] <nixternal> np bud ;)
[05:48] <kgoetz> Worked For Me
[05:49] <kgoetz> bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu <- me
[05:50] <kgoetz> er, * what worked for me
[05:50] <nixternal> if i do it via http, there is nothing there
[05:50] <nixternal> looks empty
[05:50] <kgoetz> the url does, but it finds files
[05:50] <gaz00> found the problem -  on tiger now and ports has bzr 0.7 up :s
[06:03] <matthewrevell> guys
[06:03] <matthewrevell> Looks like I won't make it this evening :(
[06:03] <kgoetz> :(
[06:03] <matthewrevell> I'll be back to normal service soon.
[06:03] <matthewrevell> Life's a touch busy at the moment!
[06:27] <kgoetz> how long till the meeting?
[06:28] <mindspin> 2.30
[06:29] <kgoetz> hm. not sure i can last that long :( i'm down to 3 stubbies, and sobering up during a meeting isnt a Good Idea
[06:35] <Bigtoe> you have time to run to the store
[06:36] <kgoetz> Bigtoe: at 2 am? :|
[06:41] <Bigtoe> ah
[06:42] <Bigtoe> yeah, that won't work
[06:42] <kgoetz> :(
[07:25] <adamant1988> hello all.
[07:25] <kgoetz> hye mate
[07:25] <adamant1988> my testimonial project is going to be a pain in the but to do...
[07:26] <kgoetz> hows it going? any joiy?
[07:26] <kgoetz> if its offical thers probably people i could as to join in
[07:26] <adamant1988> it hasn't been made an official project no
[07:26] <adamant1988> but I think I'm going to have to try to get it there
[07:27] <kgoetz> hm. it sounds interesting. is it on the agenda foar today?
[07:27] <adamant1988> because the best way to get in touch with people who aren't in the community is to have community members speak to them personally
[07:27] <adamant1988> no, I didn't add it because it's not in a state that there is much to discuss.
[07:27] <adamant1988> the problem with my idea is that I need to evolve it some
[07:29] <mindspin> adamant1988: where is the problem? the community is part of the concept, why should it be difficult to find average users as testimonials?
[07:49] <adamant1988> mindspin, because getting average users willing to stick with it for at least 2 weeks is difficult...
[07:50] <adamant1988> it's easier to get people who are friends of community members already to participate.. and there is a LOT of community members... the problem is getting the community involved to that level...
[07:53] <adamant1988> be back at about 3
[08:26] <kgoetz> not long now
[08:26] <mindspin> get you a coffee kgoetz
[08:26] <troy_s> greetings folks.
[08:27] <kgoetz> mindspin: i'm pretty tanked actually... hope i manage to stay awake :|
[08:29] <mindspin> dont forget to join #ubuntu-meeting then ...
[08:29] <kgoetz> i had forgotten
[08:50] <adamant1988> i'll be in the meeting a little lat
[08:50] <adamant1988> late*
[08:51] <a1ecks> hey guys
[08:51] <Klaidas> meeting started :)
[08:52] <Bigtoe> my timezone is 8 minutes off
[08:52] <Klaidas> * Ubugtu has changed the topic to: Current meeting: Marketing Team :)
[08:52] <Klaidas> even tho there's still 5 minutes according to my clock :D
[08:53] <kgoetz> i saw it :)
[08:54] <a1ecks> has anyone started on the spreadubuntu site design?
[08:55] <Klaidas> My first tmeeting :)
[08:55] <kgoetz> Klaidas: same :)
[08:56] <Klaidas> Thu Jul 13 21:59:06 EEST 2006
[08:56] <Bigtoe> almost straight-up noon here
[08:56] <kgoetz> Fri Jul 14 04:26 ACST 2006
[08:56] <Klaidas> woah
[08:57] <Bigtoe> US west coast
[08:59] <kgoetz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Meetings#head-6baae27adfb4dc945b7a6d79d82a947cc82e49ec
[08:59] <kgoetz> ^ look ye all, tis the agenda for this meet
[09:01] <kgoetz> anyone for the meeting join #ubuntu-meeting now :) we should have started 2 minutes ago
[09:02] <a1ecks> i have been busy with other design work, i havent tried anything for spreadubuntu
[09:28] <Klaidas> hi there MenZa
[09:28] <MenZa> lol
[09:28] <MenZa> lo*
[09:32] <kgoetz> wb jenda:)
[09:33] <jenda> so... what's happening
[09:33] <Klaidas> meeting :)
[09:33] <MenZa> :o
[09:33] <kgoetz> we seem to be dragging our feet somewhat though :|
[09:35] <kgoetz> adamant1988: btw, in 'otehr buiesness' bring up your idea for bloggin ubuntu
[09:37] <jenda> You guys, could you tell me which topics were gone through in a few sentences?
[09:38] <adamant1988> ok, I'll bring it up when other ideas comes up
[09:38] <kgoetz> one Point of contact, vote was no, thast about it really
[09:38] <adamant1988> I want to bring up the boxed sets too.
[09:38] <kgoetz> we started 10-15 min late
[09:38] <jenda> Good.
[09:38] <jenda> thanks
[09:53] <adamant1988> bah
[09:53] <Bigtoe> ?\
[09:53] <adamant1988> I'm goign to have to start getting ready for work soon.
[09:53] <adamant1988> I hope this meeting doesn't drag on much longer.
[09:54] <Bigtoe> according to the agenda, we are about finished
[09:54] <kgoetz> fwiw, i'm going to bed $soon, because i'm pretty useless as is :|
[09:55] <Bigtoe> i hope you don't have to work later today
[09:55] <adamant1988> why's that bigtoe?
[09:55] <Bigtoe> because of the hour in kgoetz's timezone
[09:56] <Bigtoe> almost 6am
[09:56] <kgoetz> Bigtoe: its 5.26 here, its 5.56 where bimberi is, and lucky i dotn have to work toda y:|
[09:56] <adamant1988> oh I thought you meant me.
[10:11] <jenda> gnomefreak: meeting
[10:11] <gnomefreak> when?
[10:11] <kgoetz> an hour ago
[10:11] <gnomefreak> sorry
[10:12] <kgoetz> heh
[10:12] <gnomefreak> you gonna have logs that i can look at later?
[10:13] <adamant1988> gah, I can't figure out launchpad, but I have to take a shower now, I'll be back
[10:13] <adamant1988> oh one last question before I go though
[10:13] <adamant1988> How seriously does canonical take us? (the marketing team)?
[10:14] <gnomefreak> not sure yet
[10:14] <adamant1988> Gah nevermind then.
[10:14] <adamant1988> If I've learned anything from marketing classes it's that you don't just go to marketing people to advertise, you go to them for ideas.
[10:15] <gnomefreak> correct
[10:15] <adamant1988> I'm good at generating ideas, I was hoping I could get a group together to generate some useful ideas that could set Ubuntu apart as an OS.
[10:16] <gnomefreak> adamant1988: we need to go towards the windows users/linux users and see what they want
[10:16] <adamant1988> I disagree, Apple had the right idea with the think different campaign.
[10:16] <jenda> hello jbrouhard
[10:16] <jbrouhard> Howdy!
[10:16] <adamant1988> people like things that are foreign even if it intimidates them some, people are still fascinated by them.
[10:17] <adamant1988> That doesn't mean we can't accomodate Windows users, but we should do something without worrying where the box is.
[10:17] <adamant1988> the box kills innovation.
[10:17] <Bigtoe> why not have two marketing paths then?
[10:17] <gnomefreak> apple went toward windows users why do you think everything is apple or windows
[10:17] <kgoetz> lack of resources?
[10:17] <Bigtoe> good point
[10:18] <adamant1988> they went towards windows users, but the interface is completely different, and it's not windows like at all.
[10:18] <gnomefreak> wasnt ubuntupeople a site idea?
[10:18] <adamant1988> I think so, I didn't join until ubuntupeople was taken down.
[10:19] <jenda> no, it was a forum.
[10:19] <adamant1988> anywho, I'm going to write all this down when I get back... I'll make it my own personal pet project if the marketing team doesn't want to sanction it.
[10:22] <jenda> adamant1988: I'll be against new MT projects untill SU or UM is up and running.
[10:25] <adamant1988> ok
[10:25] <adamant1988> I'll use that time to get my thoughts forumated.
[10:25] <adamant1988> formulated.
[10:27] <jenda> Use the time to make the time shorter :) Get SU up and running. I'm hoping it will be very possible to contribute after sunday.
[10:28] <adamant1988> I'll contribute what I can of course.
[10:28] <jenda> ;)
[10:29] <jbrouhard> jenda: Is the deadline for proposals passed as far as website designs go ?
[10:29] <jbrouhard> for SU ?
[10:29] <jenda> jbrouhard: no, it has been extended :)
[10:30] <jbrouhard> Okay
[10:30] <jbrouhard> I might contribute a screenshot if I can get one ready...
[10:30] <jbrouhard> When's the new deadline ?
[10:30] <jenda> next week
[10:30] <jbrouhard> Ok
[10:30] <jenda> Or, when the final design is chosen :-D
[10:31] <jbrouhard> Okay
[10:31] <jbrouhard> I'll see what I can do... I'm more than willing to help with any stuff y'all need ;)
[10:31] <kgoetz_Away> night all, catch you then :)
[10:31] <troy_s> good work guys...
[10:31] <troy_s> and gals
[10:31] <jenda> phew
[10:32] <jenda> that was ... sweaty :)
[10:34] <nixternal> good meeting
[10:35] <jenda> nixternal: we can discuss that next time. i see no reason why not to take a meeting without me :-D
[10:36] <Bigtoe> how is a final design for SU going to be chosen?
[10:36] <nixternal> jbrouhard: introduce yourself if you are around!!!
[10:36] <nixternal> jenda: jbrouhard is the guy i was talking about web design wise
[10:37] <jenda> Bigtoe: we discuss on the meeting...
[10:37] <jenda> we discuss some more...
[10:37] <jenda> then we vote
[10:37] <jenda> discuss the results...
[10:37] <nixternal> he is a bud of imbrandon's, and is local to him, so i am sure he is legit..i have seen his work, and he is decent..we just need to get him away from freakin' IE tabs and views and what not
[10:37] <jenda> great ;)
[10:37] <nixternal> he is doing math homework i think right now...so he is kind of in and out right now
[10:37] <nixternal> he is always on line..more then me i think
[10:38] <jenda> Bigtoe: and then... when the team says what it thinks, I say the opposite and it's the valid choice...
[10:38] <jenda> :-D
[10:38] <nixternal> haha
[10:38] <jenda> Just kidding
[10:38] <Bigtoe> hahah
[10:38] <nixternal> NO HE'S NOT!!!
[10:38] <jbrouhard> OH.  Sorry, guys..
[10:38] <jenda> Alright, I'm not :)
[10:38] <ompaul> you should be :-)
[10:38] <nixternal> arg i want the cloak already ;)
[10:38] <jbrouhard> LOL
[10:39] <jbrouhard> I'm Joe Brouhard for those of you wondering.
[10:39] <bimberi> jenda: 21st is a Friday OK?
[10:39] <nixternal> he is a ninja dude ;)
[10:39] <jbrouhard> imbrandon introduced me to kubuntu a while ago, and i've been enjoying it ;)
[10:39] <jenda> I'll try to make the decision reflect the will of the team, of course, not the opposite 
[10:39] <jbrouhard> ninja?  hah
[10:39] <nixternal> hehe
[10:39] <jbrouhard> I'm just a 1st Degree Black Belt in Taekwondo :P
[10:39] <nixternal> nice
[10:39] <jenda> bimberi: yes
[10:39] <jbrouhard> SOON TO BE 2nd Degree ;)
[10:39] <bimberi> kk
[10:39] <jbrouhard> Anyway
[10:39] <jenda> good thing this is only IRC ;)
[10:39] <nixternal> jbrouhard the man to talk to about the "SpreadUbuntu" design is jenda, he will knock you around and let you know what he wants
[10:39] <jbrouhard> I'm a Computer/Network Technician, Web Designer/Developer (freelance mostly)...
[10:40] <jbrouhard> hehe ;)
[10:40] <nixternal> in otherword, jbrouhard is unemployed just like me ;)
[10:40] <jbrouhard> Technically, not unemployed
[10:40] <jbrouhard> I work for the school that trained me in Taekwondo as an Instructor
[10:40] <nixternal> us americans always say we are "freelancers" when we are unemployed
[10:40] <nixternal> lol
[10:40] <jbrouhard> and their all-around computer guy <G>
[10:40] <nixternal> ya..ok...
[10:40] <nixternal> ;)
[10:40] <nixternal> wb sara
[10:40] <Bigtoe> im employed
[10:41] <Bigtoe> got way too hungry being "freelance"
[10:41] <_sara> yeah I got disconnected
[10:41] <nixternal> hahah Bigtoe
[10:41] <jbrouhard> Bigtoe: I get by :)
[10:41] <jbrouhard> Not enough,but close ;)
[10:42] <Bigtoe> it's no picnic having 7 bosses though
[10:42] <jbrouhard> Tho i wish one of my clients would stop dragging their feet and pay me already...
[10:42] <jbrouhard> i've had their site done for 3 weeks
[10:42] <jbrouhard> and they haven't paid me :(
[10:42] <jbrouhard> Anyway, that's another story.. :)
[10:43] <Bigtoe> what do you use for webdev?
[10:43] <jbrouhard> Anyways.. jenda, is there any specific design, layout or color scheme you're wanting to use for SU ?  I can toy with color schemes here
[10:43] <jbrouhard> Primarily, I'm trying to get used to quanta
[10:44] <jbrouhard> i've been a Dreamweaver user for ages.
[10:44] <Bigtoe> i like quanta, but have been using bluefish and screem just to be familiar
[10:45] <jbrouhard> I also have NVU
[10:45] <jbrouhard> but haven't touched it
[10:45] <jenda> jbrouhard: I wan't it to be simple, brown, Ubuntu :)
[10:45] <jbrouhard> <-- does nearly all graphical work in Adobe Photoshop tho...
[10:45] <jbrouhard> Okay
[10:45] <jbrouhard> simple, brown...
[10:45] <jbrouhard> LOL
[10:45] <jenda> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/SpreadUbuntu#head-0202bdc0f2e0e5d3cb074109cf42d8a323126c61
[10:45] <jenda> Have a look at those
[10:45] <jbrouhard> I was looking at them
[10:45] <jbrouhard> I was debating on taking a shot at the style that FreeBSD.org is using
[10:45] <jenda> The ones at the bottom are mine... so the closer you are to those... :-D
[10:45] <jbrouhard> Just change the color and format <G>
[10:45] <jbrouhard> LOL!
[10:46] <Bigtoe> heh
[10:46] <jenda> Well, honestly, I'm looking for very simple, more graphics and gradients than text
[10:46] <Bigtoe> chose any you want as long as you choose one of jenda's
[10:46] <jenda> No links other than in-text and the -it ;)
[10:46] <jenda> Bigtoe: that was a joke.
[10:46] <Bigtoe> i know
[10:47] <jenda> I suck at web design, and those aren't even webdesigns
[10:47] <Bigtoe> i may not have any graphics skills, but i do have a sense of humor
[10:47] <jenda> I tried to communicate what I had in mind, but to no avail :)
[10:47] <jbrouhard> Well..
[10:47] <jbrouhard> Personally, i've been a big fan of "balancing" graphics with text
[10:48] <jenda> of course
[10:48] <jbrouhard> i.e. if you have more text, and no graphics, the site becomes insanely boring and plain right?
[10:48] <jenda> But this mockup should really be even for very simple, possibly tired people :)
[10:48] <jbrouhard> if you reverse it, the site becomes "too colorful"and hard to navigate ;)
[10:48] <jenda> yes
[10:48] <jbrouhard> hehe
[10:48] <jbrouhard> I'll see what I can come up with
[10:48] <jenda> compare gnu.org
[10:48] <jenda> :)
[10:48] <jenda> thanks
[10:48] <jbrouhard> I've been a big fan of the FreeBSD/RedHat websites.. they're pretty kewl and simplistic by themselves
[10:49] <jbrouhard> But.. alas..
[10:49] <jbrouhard> Never tried to design them like that ;)
[10:49] <jenda> The point is for the person to see and read at least the beginning of the text, then notice the big links
[10:49] <jbrouhard> Ah
[10:49] <jbrouhard> Ok
[10:49] <jenda> They are 'simple' in a different way.
[10:49] <jenda> You have to look around for several seconds to find what you need - and I want to avoid that.
[10:50] <jbrouhard> Like I said, it'll take me a bit to come up with something, so.. :)
[10:50] <jbrouhard> Eh...
[10:50] <jenda> No worries. THere's at least a week of time.
[10:50] <jbrouhard> I can hit this from a business point of view if you like
[10:51] <jbrouhard> Anyway
[10:51] <jbrouhard> I'm off to teach kids how to kick and punch
[10:51] <jenda> Not sure what you mean, but SU, compared to ubuntu.com, should not look as 'corporate' or proffesional. (The design should be done proffessionally, though :))
[10:51] <jbrouhard> and HOPEFULLY not get killed tonight
[10:51] <jenda> hehe ;
[10:51] <jbrouhard> Ah
[10:51] <jbrouhard> Ok
[10:51] <jenda> )
[10:51] <jenda> good luck.
[10:51] <jbrouhard> Even if I don't get picked...
[10:51] <jbrouhard> I'd be happy to help with anything ;)
[10:52] <jenda> (I wanted friendly and artistic in comparison to that ;) )
[10:52] <jenda> BTW, it will end up with an amalgam of the designs, most probably.
[10:52] <jenda> Enjoy the class ;)
[10:52] <jbrouhard> Ah
[10:52] <jbrouhard> yeah right :)
[10:52] <jenda> and thanks for your help.
[10:52] <jbrouhard-afk> my pleasure
[11:38] <a1ecks> wot wot