=== gaz00 [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [12:31] blah blah blah blah [12:32] halb halb halb halb [12:32] Didn't see that coming now, did you? [12:33] can't say that i did ;) === jenda mutters about offtopic === hybrid head butts nixternal "Stay On Topic!" [12:37] interesting [12:37] blah blah blah blah doesn't constitute offtopic does it? it really isn't a topic, so maybe we need to create nontopic [12:38] Are you having an off-topic discussion about being off-topic? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [12:42] /j #ubuntu-nontopic [12:42] hahahah [12:42] thx jenda [12:42] np === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === dinda [n=dinda@cpe-72-181-94-197.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === hybrid [n=666@dpc6745217221.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === m0gsi [n=chris@194-247-238-213.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:27] Hey all === raptros-v76 [n=raptros@cpe-74-64-81-120.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:28] i think the advertising should be pink [01:28] m0gsi: you think everything should be pink [01:28] i agree [01:28] wow [01:28] with ponies === byen [n=byen@69.245.112.247] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:28] and pink floyd [01:28] ya pink floyd [01:28] Singing another brick in the wall to windows users [01:29] rofl [01:29] why not? [01:29] m0gsi: did you see their movie? [01:29] They have a movie!? [01:29] m0gsi: the rock oprah that goes with the album [01:29] I want it [01:30] m0gsi: its pretty strange [01:30] *www.thepiratebay.org [01:30] lol it's pink floyd [01:30] It's gotta be strange! === m0gsi [n=chris@194-247-238-213.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["Ex-Chat"] === byen [n=byen@69.245.112.247] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["Leaving"] === raptros-v76 [n=raptros@cpe-74-64-81-120.hvc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["you] [01:33] i can't believe i fed into that and watched that unfold right in front of me...you can kick me now if you want, just not in the shin, it is sore ;) [01:33] tthat was very interesting [01:34] yes it was [01:34] im an idiot for not following that one [01:34] it think it is too friends, having some random fun [01:34] s/too/two [01:34] hehe [01:34] #ubuntuforums of all places [01:34] all 3 [01:35] you know what we found out actually... #ubuntuforums isn't even run by the actuall ubuntuforums admins at all..it was created by a group of forums dwellers === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:36] hiya Madpilot [01:36] hi === gaz00 [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:34] jenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom/MockUp is that how you want the ToC? how about the logo portion? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === hybrid [n=666@dpc6745217221.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === kgoetz [n=ubuntu@easyubuntu/docteam/KampingKaiser/x-3453498] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === darkmatter_ [n=darkmatt@206-163-248-13.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:24] hello all. [05:24] hey adamant1988 [05:25] Wheew it's hot here... [05:25] lol [05:25] oh no [05:25] http://home.comcast.net/~nixternal/images/misc/yakuake.jpg [05:25] that is hawt [05:26] sure. [05:26] So anything interesting go on while I was at work? [05:26] ya [05:26] whoa, thats hardcore nixternal === adamant1988 hopes this new update doesn't break his computer [05:27] I need to restart.. [05:27] brb [05:27] i hope it does ;) [05:28] that's not very nice nixternal [05:28] hahahah [05:28] where's the famous ubunut love [05:29] i was going to say something bad about him just in case he read the logs, but i thought it would be unubuntu of me ;) [05:29] hehe [05:29] :) === adamant1988 [n=adam@h-141-153-101-95.ckb.meer.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:29] maybe the CoC does some good after all :) [05:29] I'm back [05:29] oh it does ;) [05:30] my computer didn't break. [05:30] arg, it didn't break ;( [05:30] hahahaha [05:30] I love you too. [05:30] hehe [05:30] [22:29] * adamant1988 hopes this new update doesn't break his computer [05:30] [22:29] i hope it does ;) [05:30] ;) [05:30] I love you too. [05:31] then i was going to say something bad about you, like adamant1988 eats worm poop...just in case you read the logs [05:31] hah [05:31] love ya hun [05:31] you too sugar ;) [05:31] lol [05:31] back on topic. === kgoetz watches The Life Of Brian === mindspin [n=mindspin@pD95FEE6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:32] hiya mindspin [05:32] hi good morning ;) [05:32] just arrived back home from a night-job... === adamant1988 is installing the cedega demo. [05:33] 5:36 am here [05:33] phew..time for sleep then ;) [05:33] mindspin: location? [05:33] germany [05:33] frankfurt [05:34] Aha. [05:34] Gerrieland. [05:34] ;) [05:34] nixternal: I'm not hat tired [05:34] i am ;) [05:34] and it is only 10:30pm here [05:35] friggin americans === hybrid stares down nixternal [05:35] hahaha [05:35] heh. 13:04 here, fwiw :P [05:35] :) === nixternal slings a lit cig at hybrid, misses and burns his state down!!! [05:36] nixternal: that is only the northern part atm, the south is flooded [05:36] so i have seen [05:36] you know your state is screwy when the northern part is on fire but the south is flooded [05:37] haha === Cody [n=pumpers@69.29.162.223] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:43] hey [05:43] so then i said, I dont think Cody is *that* stupid [05:44] oh hey Cody :-p [05:48] ;-) [05:52] wow everyones is out to get everyone tonight... [05:55] lol === GStubbs43 [n=GStubbs4@pool-72-73-93-252.ptldme.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mindspin_ [n=mindspin@pD95FD8B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:24] hmmm... [06:24] very funny hybrid [06:24] hows it going? [06:24] good, you? [06:24] pretty well [06:25] good, good [06:25] so what are you doing right now? [06:25] not much. why? [06:26] I don't really have anything (quite rare) to do === GStubbs43 [n=GStubbs4@pool-72-73-93-252.ptldme.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["I] [06:29] your not doing anything [06:30] blast it all. [06:31] :O [06:31] suse should just die. [06:31] -_- [06:31] I can't make it slip up... I'm doing everything that the average user would do and it won't stop working. [06:32] that is not cool [06:34] how is internet speed [06:34] that was the only real let-down for me [06:34] I can't really say I don't have it plugged in [06:35] but when I was using it last night pages loaded quickly and I didn't get much lag in IRC. [06:36] I say that Ubuntu could really benefit from the SLAB and integrated search. [06:37] yeah [06:42] Suse doesn't ship free cds... [06:42] Yeah, Ubuntu is a lot easier to spread. [06:42] But in all seriousness, Suse has to be more newbiew friendly than anything I've seen. [06:43] There are video/sound tutorials waiting on the desktop, there's documentation, etc. [06:45] The shipit CDs are a plus for sure. [06:45] by far [06:45] Did it require much tweaking? [06:45] For you? [06:46] Ubuntu or suse? [06:49] Suse I needed a to change the monitor resolution to get it running the way I wanted... was very simple to do via a tool in the control center [06:50] suse [06:50] really [06:51] yeah... I'm almost tempted to give my technophobe fiance my laptop to see how she does with it. [06:51] sounds like a good trial run [06:51] I know she'd use it because it's more powerful than her computer (double the ram). [06:52] Alas, SLED 10 has no repos yet, and I couldn't give it to her expecting her to figure THAT out. [06:52] nice [06:52] Although she's participating in My Ubuntu blog program anyway (using it for two weeks, etc.) [06:53] so I could definitely put Ubuntu on it without any problems and give it to her. [06:53] but I know very well I would be giving help support for the first 24-48 hours because she wouldn't know what to do. [06:57] The only seriously huge let down in SUSE is that it took almost 15 minutes to install opera from an RPM [07:01] ooohh... === nixternal points to #ubuntu-offtopic === nixternal hides [07:04] join the user lounge cody :) [07:06] ok === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Cody [n=pumpers@69.29.162.223] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] === Cody [n=pumpers@69.29.162.223] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Cody [n=pumpers@69.29.162.223] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] === Klaidas [n=klaidas@unaffiliated/klaidas] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:37] morning [07:42] indeed. [07:42] Morning Klaidas [07:52] holas [07:53] =( no spanish speakers === darkmatter_ [n=darkmatt@206-163-248-13.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:05] ne. === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:22] nixternal: yes, that's just it :) [08:23] huh? [08:23] quit hoppin' around ;) [08:23] blinkin' all my screens [08:25] muhaa... (nixternal!) [08:25] i caught ya almost ;) [08:25] still gave me the blinky blinks [08:36] http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu_poster01.png <-- amazing what five minutes in the GIMP & ten in Inkscape can give you :) [08:36] very cool [08:36] one minor piece I would do: [08:37] move the ubuntu logo to a white rounded rectangle and to the bottom [08:37] nice [08:39] so swap 'Join the Circle' and the ubuntu logo's positions? [08:39] yep [08:39] and add the white background to the logo [08:39] ANd if it's supposed to be an actual poster - you need ubuntu.com on it somewhere too. [08:41] yep [08:41] very bottom, outside the white [08:44] http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu_poster01a.png [08:45] cd cover like eh [08:45] I'd change the font of the tagline there [08:45] perhaps align it a bit to the left [08:45] kgoetz, actually, it's about the right proportions === kgoetz sugests using the people off the warty cd covers :) [08:46] right [08:46] http://home.comcast.net/~nixternal/images/misc/poster/poster1.png [08:46] now thats a poster ;) [08:47] 3'x4' [08:47] whats ' mean? [08:47] that is a draft...i need to finish that one up [08:47] feet [08:47] 3feet by 4feet ;) [08:47] ok :) [08:47] hehe [08:47] nixternal, cool [08:47] don't ask me to break it down into meters..cuz i am done then ;) [08:47] 3ft=1m~ [08:48] 1m x 1.3m, give or take === kgoetz is suprisingly familar with imperial measurements, just nto the shorthand (') [08:48] a big poster - what's that going to cost to print @ that size? [08:49] free [08:49] :o [08:49] brb [08:49] one of the guys on the LoCo works for the school district and can print them all day long i guess [08:49] sweet [08:49] You'll want a vector of that poster if you want to print it. [08:49] hello all. [08:50] http://digg.com/linux_unix/The_Ubuntu_NewUserNetwork_to_Offer_Classes_for_New_Ubuntu_Users [08:50] a full-res 300dpi image 3'x4' is going to be a freakin' massive image... [08:50] digg people digg..i know that was spam ;) [08:50] Madpilot: it will suck if it's not a vector. [08:51] Trust me, I work at a printer ;p [08:51] It's definitely doable, if you have it in a much higher res than you need [08:51] MenZa, if it's a 300+dpi bitmap it should be OK? [08:51] And scale it down [08:51] But in most cases, vectors are the shiz === MenZa shrugs [08:52] it is vector for the original [08:52] MenZa, can most shops these days handle SVGs? [08:52] the internet so you can all see version is png [08:52] Madpilot: I'd go for EPS [08:52] We can, unless the file needs editing. [08:52] nixternal, is that skyline logo image in vector too? [08:52] (we use Ilustrator 10. Sthitty software) [08:52] hah...no ;) [08:53] nixternal: I assumed so ^^ [08:53] hehe [08:53] MenZa: does illustrator support svgs? [08:53] jenda: new version does. [08:53] not afaik [08:53] CS, CS2. [08:53] 10 does. [08:53] so, there are going to be issues when it comes time to print? [08:53] Allegedly. === kgoetz is out of date then [08:53] But not really. [08:53] nixternal: pixelation :\ [08:53] But a printer will be able to accept that, then? [08:53] ah [08:54] even if the poster was done in inkscape at the actuall sizes? [08:54] nixternal, how big was the original of the skyline image? [08:54] nixternal: well, that depends [08:54] 3 feet wide [08:55] nixternal, how many pixels wide? [08:55] 3k+ [08:55] i actually made the skyline image smaller in the poster then it really is [08:55] wow. you should be OK, then [08:56] from now on, im going to my brother-in-law..he owns his own printing company..and gets paid to do this stuff ;) [08:57] actually... 3000/36=83.something - you might still have a problem... [08:57] im sure i will with my luck ;) [08:59] nixternal: for real? [08:59] Can I count on him in the future? :) [09:04] tweaked slightly: http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu_poster01a.png [09:06] ubuntu.com looks like its in the wrong place [09:06] cool. what is it for? [09:08] Madpilot: can I be honest? [09:08] me no likey [09:08] Wrong typefaces [09:08] The text/logo are too large [09:08] mdke, it's for messing around in Inkscape, mostly ;) [09:08] Otherwise alright. [09:08] Madpilot: ah :) [09:08] it's mostly thrown together, I won't claim it's been exhaustively designed :) [09:18] https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-marketing/+branch/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu [09:18] BTW ^ === MenZa [n=chatzill@0x535de891.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === synchronboy [i=synchron@silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [09:53] alright jenda, good job on bzr, got it dl'd here locally...im gonna pass out [09:53] g'nite all === hybrid [n=666@dpc6745217221.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === digitalmouse [n=jimm@p5481DF8E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:00] greetings programs! [10:00] yo [10:01] oi [10:01] [10:01] :) [10:02] hey :) === WildTangent [n=chatzill@d57-194-168.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:03] don't look === mode/#ubuntu-marketing [+o jenda] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-marketing [+b *!*@ubuntu/member/jenda] by jenda === mode/#ubuntu-marketing [-o jenda] by ChanServ [10:03] hello === mode/#ubuntu-marketing [+o jenda] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-marketing [-b *!*@ubuntu/member/jenda] by jenda === mode/#ubuntu-marketing [-o jenda] by ChanServ [10:03] perfect === nybble [n=nybble@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/nybble] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:07] jenda, testing something? [10:08] yes, a script === mode/#ubuntu-marketing [+o jenda] by ChanServ === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has left #ubuntu-marketing [requested] === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:08] see? auto rejoin on remove ;) [10:08] heh [10:10] oooooh... [10:13] hello nybble ;) didn't notice you were here. Welcome [10:14] hehe, i'm good at sneaking in... lol.. hi [10:14] that hybrid was trying to recruit me [10:14] lol [10:14] successfully? [10:15] i'm here, arent I? [10:15] === hybrid [n=666@dpc6745217221.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:16] We're up next in #ubuntu-meeting [10:18] really... [10:18] ? [10:19] jenda, how soon is "up next"? [10:19] 19:00 UTC [10:19] next week... lol [10:19] today :-D [10:19] gotta run [10:19] bye [10:19] be back in the evening [10:20] \ok [10:21] ok so 2:00 pm EST [10:24] noon here - I'll be at work [10:28] hm. thats right. 3/4 am here [10:29] fun === stefg [n=stefg@dslb-088-072-229-010.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:32] loads === stefg [n=stefg@dslb-088-072-229-010.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mindspin [n=mindspin@pD95FD8B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === silbs [n=jane@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [11:03] hi silbs === darkmatter_ [n=darkmatt@206-163-248-13.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === digitalmouse [n=jimm@p5481DF8E.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] === Klaidas [n=klaidas@unaffiliated/klaidas] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === kintaro [n=ad0lf@203.177.212.164] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === IvanCherevko [n=chatzill@acc2-235-209.dialup.elvisti.kiev.ua] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === IvanCherevko [n=chatzill@acc2-235-209.dialup.elvisti.kiev.ua] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] === kintaro [n=ad0lf@203.177.212.164] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MenZa [n=chatzill@0x535de891.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [12:55] can anybody explain how to get access to the bzr marketing branch? [12:56] do you have bazaar installed? [12:57] yup [12:57] bazaar-ng infact [12:57] and a ssh key [12:57] bzg is installed [12:57] ok, bzr checkout $link (ill just grab it) [12:57] bzr checkout [12:57] sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu [12:57] bzr checkout sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu [12:58] on konsole? or after starting bzg? [12:58] in konsole [12:59] ERROR: Not a branch: /home/mindspin/ [12:59] what did you run? [01:00] nothing ;-) [01:00] >.< [01:00] doesn't work for me either [01:01] so it seems it's not related to my stupidity ;-) [01:01] nope [01:01] we need to go and find some documentation for bzr [01:01] hm. i would try, but i'm on a live cd. give me a few miinutes i'll connect home and try it [01:04] hm. seems my ssh key isnt there [01:04] mdke: mindspin try `bzr branch sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu` [01:04] does that work? === kgoetz goes to upload an ssh key to LP [01:05] no [01:05] bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: /home/mindspin/sftp:/bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu/ [01:05] hm. [01:05] for basic bzr help run 'bzr help' in a terminal, btw [01:05] like svn [01:07] just did ;-) === kintaro [n=ad0lf@203.177.212.164] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:07] :) === kgoetz wonders how long it takes LP to propergate teh ssh pubkey [01:08] ooh actualy - mindspin, did you use a dsa or rsa key in LP? [01:08] dsa [01:09] as recommended [01:09] its the only one i have - i was worried for a moment :O [01:09] you shouldn't need the key to just checkout the branch, surely, only to commit [01:10] using sftp (as that url is) you need a key full stop (read: key to connect) [01:10] ah [01:11] what worries me is the /home/mindspin/ part of the error mesg [01:11] anyway, bzr isn't trying to connect === kgoetz tries ftp/http without s [01:11] mindspin: i didnt get that [01:12] do I have to create an empty branch (ie. folder) on my machine? [01:12] i got permision denied, so i tried putting in my key === mdke asks on #launchpad [01:12] i made ~/temp in case stuff went crazy, so dunno [01:14] ah, mindspin, try `bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubunt` [01:14] its connecting for me, dont know if it will get further or not [01:16] oh, thats missing a u, btw [01:16] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu: No such file or directory [01:16] you have an extra colon/semicolon [01:16] at the end ^ [01:17] only in the error mesg ;-) [01:17] kgoetz@Rommel:~/temp$ bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu [01:17] \ [======= ] fetch phase 0/4 [01:17] ^ 'working' for me [01:18] works here too [01:18] here too [01:18] ok so far and now ? [01:19] it should download $stuff, and then you have a copy of whatevers in that repository [01:19] which should be 3 commits worth of data from jenda === mdke gets another error message and gives up === kgoetz hasnt got as far as his next error [01:20] oooh oooh, i tworked [01:20] got it in my /home directory [01:21] it should make a dir called 'spreadubuntu' and put stuff in htere [01:21] yup it did [01:21] yay === darkmatter_ [n=darkmatt@206-163-248-13.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:26] wb darkmatter_ [01:26] jenda: we got connections to LP over http, sftp we had to many issues with [01:26] :) [01:26] :o === darkmatter_ [n=darkmatt@206-163-248-13.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:28] how does jenda manage to do so much stuff and still be in 25 irc channels :( my excuse for doing bugger all was /i/ am in 15 channels :| [01:28] wb again :P [01:29] how does jenda manage to finish his studies btw. ;-) [01:29] holy crap [01:29] dont remind me :| [01:29] someone drove into my tim hortons last night [01:29] your whats? [01:30] where i work [01:30] someone drove their truck into it [01:31] oh ok. as you do [01:56] bzr branch sftp://mindspin@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu gives me a permission denied mesg === stefg [n=stefg@dslb-088-072-229-010.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Klaidas [n=klaidas@unaffiliated/klaidas] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rikai [i=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === toeaway is now known as Bigtoe === MagicFab [n=magicfab@70.55.52.112] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Klaidas [n=klaidas@unaffiliated/klaidas] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === hybrid [n=666@dpc6745217221.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === newz2000 [n=matt@12-216-147-124.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:53] I could use some artistic assistance, if anyone feels so inclined [04:53] Here's a URL with details: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2006-July/002470.html [05:04] wheeee [05:04] moins all [05:04] hi you 2 [05:07] hey newz2000 [05:07] hey [05:08] nixternal: how much time, per day, do you spend on your chicago loco? [05:08] 16 hours [05:08] lol [05:08] i can believe that [05:08] 16 hours of my day goes to Ubuntu [05:08] one way or another [05:09] my family gets about 15 minutes, which is more then enough ;) [05:09] see, that would work for me if I wanted a divorce [05:09] Same here [05:09] wife: "I feel bad... we only played together for 5 hours today." [05:10] hahaha [05:10] mine is a little different [05:10] i already had the divorce...so im about as single as Ubuntu would let me ;) [05:10] mine works 16 hours ;-) [05:10] "your son is driving me crazy, will you take him somewhere? NOW!" [05:11] he is always my son when he is misbehaving [05:11] :-D === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === kgoetz hugs gnomefreak [05:45] hi KenSentMe|vac [05:45] oops [05:46] hi kgoetz [05:46] hehe. hi mate === gaz00 [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === silbs [n=jane@217.205.109.249] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] [05:46] hi all... trying to checkout the spreadubuntu proposals that jenda posted yesterday [05:46] do you have to be an active member of the marketing team to look at it? [05:47] nope [05:47] thats all you can do really is look at them, as the channel seems to be read only [05:47] hi gaz00 [05:47] kgoetz: hi! [05:47] :) [05:48] that's what i thought. but i'm getting read errors. bbiab - -checking ssh keys [05:48] nixternal: thx :) [05:48] gaz00: just use http [05:48] np bud ;) [05:48] Worked For Me [05:49] bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu <- me [05:50] er, * what worked for me [05:50] if i do it via http, there is nothing there [05:50] looks empty [05:50] the url does, but it finds files [05:50] found the problem - on tiger now and ports has bzr 0.7 up :s === newz2000 [n=matt@12-216-147-124.client.mchsi.com] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["Talk] === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:03] guys [06:03] Looks like I won't make it this evening :( [06:03] :( [06:03] I'll be back to normal service soon. [06:03] Life's a touch busy at the moment! === kgoetz wonders if he will last another 3 hours awake [06:27] how long till the meeting? [06:28] 2.30 [06:29] hm. not sure i can last that long :( i'm down to 3 stubbies, and sobering up during a meeting isnt a Good Idea [06:35] you have time to run to the store [06:36] Bigtoe: at 2 am? :| [06:41] ah [06:42] yeah, that won't work [06:42] :( === Klaidas [n=klaidas@unaffiliated/klaidas] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === darkmatter_ [n=darkmatt@206-163-248-13.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === adamant1988 [n=adam@h-141-153-101-95.ckb.meer.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:25] hello all. [07:25] hye mate [07:25] my testimonial project is going to be a pain in the but to do... [07:26] hows it going? any joiy? [07:26] if its offical thers probably people i could as to join in [07:26] it hasn't been made an official project no [07:26] but I think I'm going to have to try to get it there [07:27] hm. it sounds interesting. is it on the agenda foar today? [07:27] because the best way to get in touch with people who aren't in the community is to have community members speak to them personally [07:27] no, I didn't add it because it's not in a state that there is much to discuss. [07:27] the problem with my idea is that I need to evolve it some [07:29] adamant1988: where is the problem? the community is part of the concept, why should it be difficult to find average users as testimonials? === kgoetz wonders if another hour awake is possible [07:49] mindspin, because getting average users willing to stick with it for at least 2 weeks is difficult... [07:50] it's easier to get people who are friends of community members already to participate.. and there is a LOT of community members... the problem is getting the community involved to that level... [07:53] be back at about 3 === rikai [i=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === gaz00_ [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === troy_s [n=aphorism@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:26] not long now [08:26] get you a coffee kgoetz [08:26] greetings folks. [08:27] mindspin: i'm pretty tanked actually... hope i manage to stay awake :| [08:29] dont forget to join #ubuntu-meeting then ... === kgoetz joins now [08:29] i had forgotten === adamant1988 joins too === a1ecks [n=alecks@pool-141-156-212-113.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === kgoetz squrims... i'm going to a -markeging meeting :o [08:50] i'll be in the meeting a little lat [08:50] late* [08:51] hey guys [08:51] meeting started :) [08:52] my timezone is 8 minutes off === kgoetz has 9 minutse to go [08:52] * Ubugtu has changed the topic to: Current meeting: Marketing Team :) [08:52] even tho there's still 5 minutes according to my clock :D [08:53] i saw it :) === kgoetz thinks/hopes ubugtu is over entheusiastic [08:54] has anyone started on the spreadubuntu site design? === mindspin [n=mindspin@pD95FD8B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["Konversation] === kgoetz runs ntpdate to fix his clock - 33 seconds out :o [08:55] My first tmeeting :) [08:55] Klaidas: same :) === kgoetz accuses Klaidas of favoratism - this meetings probably happening during the day for you [08:56] Thu Jul 13 21:59:06 EEST 2006 [08:56] almost straight-up noon here [08:56] Fri Jul 14 04:26 ACST 2006 [08:56] woah === kgoetz blinks at Bigtoe [08:57] US west coast === kgoetz is in central australia [08:59] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Meetings#head-6baae27adfb4dc945b7a6d79d82a947cc82e49ec [08:59] ^ look ye all, tis the agenda for this meet [09:01] anyone for the meeting join #ubuntu-meeting now :) we should have started 2 minutes ago [09:02] i have been busy with other design work, i havent tried anything for spreadubuntu === a1ecks [n=alecks@pool-141-156-212-113.res.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["Leaving"] === MenZa`afk [n=chatzill@0x535de891.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [09:28] hi there MenZa [09:28] lol [09:28] lo* [09:32] wb jenda:) [09:33] so... what's happening [09:33] meeting :) [09:33] :o [09:33] we seem to be dragging our feet somewhat though :| === kgoetz wishes he was a proper leader - then i wouldnt have to try and unload it on Bimberi :| [09:35] adamant1988: btw, in 'otehr buiesness' bring up your idea for bloggin ubuntu [09:37] You guys, could you tell me which topics were gone through in a few sentences? === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [09:38] ok, I'll bring it up when other ideas comes up [09:38] one Point of contact, vote was no, thast about it really [09:38] I want to bring up the boxed sets too. [09:38] we started 10-15 min late [09:38] Good. [09:38] thanks === a1ecks [n=alecks@pool-141-156-212-113.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === gaz00 [n=darren@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MagicFab [n=magicfab@70.55.57.64] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [09:53] bah [09:53] ?\ [09:53] I'm goign to have to start getting ready for work soon. [09:53] I hope this meeting doesn't drag on much longer. [09:54] according to the agenda, we are about finished [09:54] fwiw, i'm going to bed $soon, because i'm pretty useless as is :| [09:55] i hope you don't have to work later today [09:55] why's that bigtoe? [09:55] because of the hour in kgoetz's timezone [09:56] almost 6am [09:56] Bigtoe: its 5.26 here, its 5.56 where bimberi is, and lucky i dotn have to work toda y:| [09:56] oh I thought you meant me. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:11] gnomefreak: meeting [10:11] when? [10:11] an hour ago [10:11] sorry [10:12] heh [10:12] you gonna have logs that i can look at later? [10:13] gah, I can't figure out launchpad, but I have to take a shower now, I'll be back [10:13] oh one last question before I go though [10:13] How seriously does canonical take us? (the marketing team)? [10:14] not sure yet [10:14] Gah nevermind then. [10:14] If I've learned anything from marketing classes it's that you don't just go to marketing people to advertise, you go to them for ideas. [10:15] correct [10:15] I'm good at generating ideas, I was hoping I could get a group together to generate some useful ideas that could set Ubuntu apart as an OS. [10:16] adamant1988: we need to go towards the windows users/linux users and see what they want === jbrouhard [n=jbrouhar@cm-24-121-115-231.stjoseph.mo.npgco.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:16] I disagree, Apple had the right idea with the think different campaign. [10:16] hello jbrouhard [10:16] Howdy! [10:16] people like things that are foreign even if it intimidates them some, people are still fascinated by them. [10:17] That doesn't mean we can't accomodate Windows users, but we should do something without worrying where the box is. [10:17] the box kills innovation. [10:17] why not have two marketing paths then? [10:17] apple went toward windows users why do you think everything is apple or windows [10:17] lack of resources? [10:17] good point [10:18] they went towards windows users, but the interface is completely different, and it's not windows like at all. [10:18] wasnt ubuntupeople a site idea? [10:18] I think so, I didn't join until ubuntupeople was taken down. [10:19] no, it was a forum. [10:19] anywho, I'm going to write all this down when I get back... I'll make it my own personal pet project if the marketing team doesn't want to sanction it. === kgoetz is now known as `6og_Awa1 === `6og_Awa1 is now known as kgoetz_Away [10:22] adamant1988: I'll be against new MT projects untill SU or UM is up and running. [10:25] ok [10:25] I'll use that time to get my thoughts forumated. [10:25] formulated. [10:27] Use the time to make the time shorter :) Get SU up and running. I'm hoping it will be very possible to contribute after sunday. [10:28] I'll contribute what I can of course. [10:28] ;) [10:29] jenda: Is the deadline for proposals passed as far as website designs go ? [10:29] for SU ? [10:29] jbrouhard: no, it has been extended :) [10:30] Okay [10:30] I might contribute a screenshot if I can get one ready... [10:30] When's the new deadline ? [10:30] next week [10:30] Ok [10:30] Or, when the final design is chosen :-D [10:31] Okay [10:31] I'll see what I can do... I'm more than willing to help with any stuff y'all need ;) [10:31] night all, catch you then :) [10:31] good work guys... [10:31] and gals [10:31] phew [10:32] that was ... sweaty :) [10:34] good meeting [10:35] nixternal: we can discuss that next time. i see no reason why not to take a meeting without me :-D [10:36] how is a final design for SU going to be chosen? [10:36] jbrouhard: introduce yourself if you are around!!! [10:36] jenda: jbrouhard is the guy i was talking about web design wise [10:37] Bigtoe: we discuss on the meeting... [10:37] we discuss some more... [10:37] then we vote [10:37] discuss the results... [10:37] he is a bud of imbrandon's, and is local to him, so i am sure he is legit..i have seen his work, and he is decent..we just need to get him away from freakin' IE tabs and views and what not [10:37] great ;) [10:37] he is doing math homework i think right now...so he is kind of in and out right now [10:37] he is always on line..more then me i think [10:38] Bigtoe: and then... when the team says what it thinks, I say the opposite and it's the valid choice... [10:38] :-D [10:38] haha [10:38] Just kidding [10:38] hahah [10:38] NO HE'S NOT!!! [10:38] OH. Sorry, guys.. [10:38] Alright, I'm not :) === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:38] you should be :-) [10:38] arg i want the cloak already ;) [10:38] LOL [10:39] I'm Joe Brouhard for those of you wondering. [10:39] jenda: 21st is a Friday OK? [10:39] he is a ninja dude ;) [10:39] imbrandon introduced me to kubuntu a while ago, and i've been enjoying it ;) [10:39] I'll try to make the decision reflect the will of the team, of course, not the opposite [10:39] ninja? hah [10:39] hehe [10:39] I'm just a 1st Degree Black Belt in Taekwondo :P [10:39] nice [10:39] bimberi: yes [10:39] SOON TO BE 2nd Degree ;) [10:39] kk [10:39] Anyway === jenda hides [10:39] good thing this is only IRC ;) [10:39] jbrouhard the man to talk to about the "SpreadUbuntu" design is jenda, he will knock you around and let you know what he wants [10:39] I'm a Computer/Network Technician, Web Designer/Developer (freelance mostly)... [10:40] hehe ;) [10:40] in otherword, jbrouhard is unemployed just like me ;) [10:40] Technically, not unemployed [10:40] I work for the school that trained me in Taekwondo as an Instructor [10:40] us americans always say we are "freelancers" when we are unemployed [10:40] lol [10:40] and their all-around computer guy [10:40] ya..ok... [10:40] ;) === _sara [n=sara@pool-70-17-45-241.pskn.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:40] wb sara [10:40] im employed [10:41] got way too hungry being "freelance" [10:41] <_sara> yeah I got disconnected [10:41] hahah Bigtoe [10:41] Bigtoe: I get by :) [10:41] Not enough,but close ;) [10:42] it's no picnic having 7 bosses though [10:42] Tho i wish one of my clients would stop dragging their feet and pay me already... [10:42] i've had their site done for 3 weeks [10:42] and they haven't paid me :( [10:42] Anyway, that's another story.. :) [10:43] what do you use for webdev? [10:43] Anyways.. jenda, is there any specific design, layout or color scheme you're wanting to use for SU ? I can toy with color schemes here === nixternal laughs [10:43] Primarily, I'm trying to get used to quanta [10:44] i've been a Dreamweaver user for ages. [10:44] i like quanta, but have been using bluefish and screem just to be familiar [10:45] I also have NVU [10:45] but haven't touched it [10:45] jbrouhard: I wan't it to be simple, brown, Ubuntu :) [10:45] <-- does nearly all graphical work in Adobe Photoshop tho... [10:45] Okay [10:45] simple, brown... [10:45] LOL [10:45] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/SpreadUbuntu#head-0202bdc0f2e0e5d3cb074109cf42d8a323126c61 [10:45] Have a look at those [10:45] I was looking at them [10:45] I was debating on taking a shot at the style that FreeBSD.org is using [10:45] The ones at the bottom are mine... so the closer you are to those... :-D [10:45] Just change the color and format [10:45] LOL! [10:46] heh [10:46] Well, honestly, I'm looking for very simple, more graphics and gradients than text [10:46] chose any you want as long as you choose one of jenda's [10:46] No links other than in-text and the -it ;) [10:46] Bigtoe: that was a joke. [10:46] i know [10:47] I suck at web design, and those aren't even webdesigns [10:47] i may not have any graphics skills, but i do have a sense of humor [10:47] I tried to communicate what I had in mind, but to no avail :) [10:47] Well.. [10:47] Personally, i've been a big fan of "balancing" graphics with text [10:48] of course [10:48] i.e. if you have more text, and no graphics, the site becomes insanely boring and plain right? [10:48] But this mockup should really be even for very simple, possibly tired people :) [10:48] if you reverse it, the site becomes "too colorful"and hard to navigate ;) [10:48] yes [10:48] hehe [10:48] I'll see what I can come up with [10:48] compare gnu.org [10:48] :) [10:48] thanks [10:48] I've been a big fan of the FreeBSD/RedHat websites.. they're pretty kewl and simplistic by themselves [10:49] But.. alas.. [10:49] Never tried to design them like that ;) [10:49] The point is for the person to see and read at least the beginning of the text, then notice the big links [10:49] Ah [10:49] Ok [10:49] They are 'simple' in a different way. [10:49] You have to look around for several seconds to find what you need - and I want to avoid that. [10:50] Like I said, it'll take me a bit to come up with something, so.. :) [10:50] Eh... [10:50] No worries. THere's at least a week of time. [10:50] I can hit this from a business point of view if you like [10:51] Anyway [10:51] I'm off to teach kids how to kick and punch [10:51] Not sure what you mean, but SU, compared to ubuntu.com, should not look as 'corporate' or proffesional. (The design should be done proffessionally, though :)) [10:51] and HOPEFULLY not get killed tonight [10:51] hehe ; [10:51] Ah [10:51] Ok [10:51] ) [10:51] good luck. [10:51] Even if I don't get picked... [10:51] I'd be happy to help with anything ;) [10:52] (I wanted friendly and artistic in comparison to that ;) ) [10:52] BTW, it will end up with an amalgam of the designs, most probably. [10:52] Enjoy the class ;) [10:52] Ah [10:52] yeah right :) [10:52] and thanks for your help. 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