[12:26] <bddebian> Catch you later gang
[12:26] <LaserJock> cya bddebian
[12:32] <crimsun> mm I suck, forgot to adjust the e-mail address
[12:38] <LaserJock> crimsun: on an upload?
[12:38] <crimsun> yes, vlc.
[01:04] <LaserJock> wow, I can't believe it's UVF already
[01:05] <LaserJock> seems like just yesterday the edgy repos opened
[01:06] <raphink> yes indeed
[01:06] <raphink> edgy ;)
[01:06] <LaserJock> how's kubuntu doing? does the UVF apply as well to it?
[01:12] <chantra> nity
[01:33] <ajmitch> morning
[01:37] <havoc> morning
[01:38] <LaserJock> hi ajmitch!
[01:57] <sladen> Laser_away: yup, UVF is for the archive
[02:21] <crimsun> for everyone not following in -devel, universe UVF is in late September, so we still have a bit of time.
[02:21] <zul> hi
[02:21] <crimsun> 'lo zul
[02:21] <zul> hey crimsun how goes the battle?
[02:22] <crimsun> definitely battling
[02:22] <crimsun> yourself?
[02:22] <zul> same here
[02:22] <zul> and reading email
[03:18] <bddebian> Heya gang
[03:19] <Hawkwind> Hey there bddebian
[03:19] <bddebian> Hello Hawkwind
[03:20] <ajmitch> hi
[03:20] <bddebian> Heya ajmitch, what's happening?
[03:20] <ajmitch> stuff
[03:20] <bddebian> Alrighty then :)
[03:35] <Hobbsee> morning all
[03:41] <Amaranth> what does it mean when dh_install gives cp: cannot stat `./usr/bin/': No such file or directory?
[03:42] <Amaranth> it's supposed to be ./debian/tmp/usr/bin/
[03:42] <Amaranth> which is odd
[03:45] <Amaranth> trying to outrun UVF here :)
[03:46] <crimsun> you have until Sept
[03:46] <bddebian> Amaranth: What's rules look like?
[03:46] <crimsun> main UVF was today; universe/multiverse UVF is in late Sept.
[03:47] <Amaranth> crimsun: it's a package for main, i guess
[03:47] <Amaranth> ogra told me to get it done today
[03:47] <Amaranth> bddebian: it's cdbs :)
[03:47] <crimsun> yeah, you have negative time
[03:47] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone here on the motu-media team?
[03:48] <crimsun> yes.
[03:48] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: yeah, me too.  it's nasty
[03:48] <bddebian> Amaranth: Ah, hmm
[03:48] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: you know that UVF only applies to main, right?
[03:48] <Amaranth> Hobbsee: yep
[03:48] <Hobbsee> cool
[03:48] <Amaranth> i also know i have an exception
[03:48] <Hobbsee> crimsun: feel like uploading something for me?
[03:48] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: nice :)
[03:48] <Amaranth> but apparently it's harder if i don't have this in before UVF
[03:48] <crimsun> Hobbsee: URL?
[03:48] <Amaranth> which i missed?
[03:48] <crimsun> Amaranth: ask mdz for an exception
[03:48] <Amaranth> crimsun: need a working package first :)
[03:49] <crimsun> bah, details.
[03:49] <bddebian> heh
[03:49] <Hobbsee> crimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/vOo8HI63.html needs to be applied to kopete, in edgy main.
[03:49] <crimsun> Hobbsee: build- and install-tested?
[03:49] <Amaranth> bddebian: http://rafb.net/paste/results/SOqlOg42.html
[03:50] <Hobbsee> crimsun: not install tested.  shoulda checked that.  built accidently tested, yes.
[03:50] <Hobbsee> give me a sec.
[03:50] <crimsun> Hobbsee: please install-test, thanks.
[03:50] <Amaranth> it's just getting called with dh_install -pwillowng-config
[03:50] <Hobbsee> crimsun: just doing it now.  i'd forgotten that there'd be a few hours before UVF anyway - so i was expecting to wait
[03:50] <Amaranth> perhaps my cd po is doing it...
[03:51] <Amaranth> nope, that's not it
[03:52] <bddebian> Do you have a dirs or .files file?
[03:52] <Amaranth> i have .install files
[03:53] <bddebian> What's it look like?
[03:54] <Amaranth> http://rafb.net/paste/results/4NqnTS69.html
[03:55] <crimsun> Hobbsee: where's the srcpkg for -0ubuntu2?
[03:55] <crimsun> it hasn't been NEWed yet, so it's not readily available
[03:55] <Hobbsee> crimsun: on my hard drive.  i've got a really slow ftp connection, hence the debdiff.
[03:55] <Hobbsee> 0ubuntu1 is...
[03:55] <Hobbsee> crimsun: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/source/kopete
[03:55] <Hobbsee> 0ubuntu2 is my revision, the patch goes against 0ubuntu1 doesnt it, making it 0ubuntu2?  or have i missed something?
[03:55] <crimsun> ah crap, I was looking in main
[03:56] <Hobbsee> crimsun: oh, i'ts in universe, that's interesting
[03:56] <crimsun> yes, they NEW into universe by default
[03:56] <Hobbsee> guess it makes sense for us to be able to modify it more first though
[03:57] <bddebian> What'd I do now?
[03:57] <crimsun> joking.
[03:57] <bddebian> :-)
[03:57] <Amaranth> this bug makes no sense :)
[03:57] <Amaranth> but i'll remove things until it unfucks itself
[03:57] <crimsun> beware the crazy stray characters
[03:58] <crimsun> I spent an hour over a stray '\'
[03:58] <bddebian> Amaranth: Sorry, I missed your paste
[03:59] <Amaranth> *grumble*
[03:59] <Amaranth> if i remove the .install files it works
[03:59] <Amaranth> but of course i end up with two packages with the same contents
[03:59] <crimsun> Hobbsee: erm
[04:00] <crimsun> Hobbsee: how is this different from https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edgy-changes/2006-July/002073.html ?
[04:00] <Amaranth> *facepalm*
[04:01] <Amaranth> .install files are supposed to start with debian/, aren't they?>
[04:01] <Hobbsee> crimsun: ack, okay, so Riddell must have uploaded it last night, yet p.u.c hasnt updated yet.  it's right, dont worry.
[04:01] <crimsun> Hobbsee: ok. I noticed the rejects upon applying it against extracted -0ubuntu2.
[04:01] <fowlduck> someone update inkscape
[04:02] <bddebian> W00t maxima built
[04:02] <crimsun> bddebian: and crashes on startup!
[04:02] <crimsun> (yay)
[04:02] <bddebian> Yeah?
[04:02] <Hobbsee> crimsun: heh, what, trying to reapply patches that are already applied?
[04:02] <crimsun> Hobbsee: yeah
[04:02] <bddebian> fuXX0r
[04:02] <Hobbsee> crimsun: clearly, i shouldnt sleep, so i dont miss things.
[04:03] <crimsun> Hobbsee: nah, you should just paste edgy-changes/2006-July/thread.html to your desktop like I do. :)
[04:03] <Hobbsee> crimsun: hah!
[04:04] <Hobbsee> or just rss feed it.
[04:04] <crimsun> or that
[04:04] <Hobbsee> excellent, wvstreams went thru, and that's defintely in main!
[04:04] <bddebian> Amaranth: You should be able to do it like:  foo usr/bin
[04:05] <Amaranth> *shrug*
[04:05] <Hawkwind> Is it true that there aren't xen kernels for Kubuntu ?  Xen is a huge thing in Debian so I figured surely Kubuntu would have it too
[04:05] <bddebian>  libbar usr/lib
[04:05] <Amaranth> debian/tmp/usr/bin/ works for me
[04:05] <bddebian> That should work too
[04:05] <crimsun> there is work being done for Xen+Ubuntu
[04:05] <Amaranth> of course starting with ogra's install file i left some junk in that i keep forgetting to remove :)
[04:06] <Hawkwind> crimsun: So nothing yet then ?
[04:06] <crimsun> Hawkwind: meaning in-archive or...?
[04:06] <Hawkwind> crimsun: Right.  I don't want to compile it if I don't have to
[04:07] <crimsun> not in-archive yet
[04:07] <Hawkwind> Strange that Kubuntu has xen-tools, but not the kernels
[04:07] <crimsun> offline coffee.
[04:08] <Amaranth> ack my init.d went to the wrong pacakge
[04:08] <Amaranth> do i name it <package>.init.d to choose what package it should be for?
[04:08] <Hawkwind> crimsun: Do you know by chance if we could use the debian deb packages in Kubuntu and it work ?
[04:11] <bddebian> crimsun: Oh, well if you return, how does maxima crash?
[04:14] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: that's a rather silly question, and there are many answers for it.
[04:15] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: I ask because it's a kernel package so I'm not sure how well it would work on Kubuntu, or if even would
[04:16] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: well, it might.  the answers are either: 1)  it's not recommended 2) no 3) which debian version?  4) what are the changes?
[04:16] <Hawkwind> I don't think I'm going to try it.  I think since it's kernel stuff I'll wait til Kubuntu gets it
[04:17] <Hobbsee> oh, and 5) if it's in debian unstable, why havent they synced it in anyway
[04:17] <Amaranth> ok, i appear to have the contents of the packages right, yay
[04:17] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Yeah I don't know what version of Debian it's available for.  I'll have to look
[04:18] <Amaranth> laggy
[04:29] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: yay!
[04:32] <bddebian> Yeah Amaranth
[04:36] <Amaranth> now for a quick run through pbuilder before i give it to ogra
[05:08] <Hobbsee> FunnyLookinHat: which bits are you having trouble with?
[05:09] <FunnyLookinHat> Hobbsee, getting started  : )
[05:09] <FunnyLookinHat> Hobbsee, I'm trying to evaluate creating new and updated packages for mythTV for ubuntu repos.
[05:09] <FunnyLookinHat> It's a bit of a difficult one to start with  : )
[05:09] <Hobbsee> FunnyLookinHat: ah, yes.
[05:09] <Hobbsee> please tell me you're doing it for edgy, not dapper
[05:10] <FunnyLookinHat> Hobbsee, that's where I think I'm heading.
[05:10] <bddebian> Have fun with the myth plugins
[05:10] <Hobbsee> good
[05:10] <tritium> 0.19 FunnyLookinHat ?
[05:10] <Hobbsee> heh, yeah, that's what i thought when i looked at it
[05:10] <FunnyLookinHat> tritium, rgr that.
[05:10] <FunnyLookinHat> tritium, I found a guy who actually created them
[05:10] <tritium> cool
[05:10] <FunnyLookinHat> I am trying to see if he is willing to submit them to REPU
[05:10] <FunnyLookinHat> err REVU
[05:10] <FunnyLookinHat> ; )
[05:12] <tritium> I'm building a myth box right now, FunnyLookinHat
[05:12] <bddebian> Heya tritium
[05:12] <FunnyLookinHat> tritium, ooh nice.  would you like the link to where I found the .19 packages for dapper?
[05:12] <tritium> hey there, bddebian
[05:12] <tritium> sure, FunnyLookinHat.  Thanks!
[05:13] <FunnyLookinHat> tritium, http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/index.php/FAQ#Ubuntu
[05:13] <tritium> thanks, FunnyLookinHat
[05:13] <FunnyLookinHat> I emailed the guy in the changelog, hopefully he gets back to me soon, I need to submit the .19 for edgy by the 13th, right?
[05:13] <tritium> that soon?
[05:13] <FunnyLookinHat> that's when um.. what's it called, some sort of freeze occurs
[05:13] <Hobbsee> FunnyLookinHat: no, it's not in main
[05:14] <Hobbsee> UVF is for main only, universe freeze is much later
[05:14] <FunnyLookinHat> Hobbsee, know when universe freeze is?
[05:14] <Hobbsee> well, i'm assuming it's not in main
[05:14] <FunnyLookinHat> !schedule
[05:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:14] <Hobbsee> FunnyLookinHat: no, but !schedule does
[05:14] <bddebian> multiverse I believe
[05:14] <FunnyLookinHat> ; )
[05:15] <FunnyLookinHat> how do I find out which repo (universe or multiverse) the myth packages are in?  I found them with apt-cache
[05:15] <FunnyLookinHat> sorry wow, this is turning into #ubuntu support
[05:15] <bddebian> bdefreese@bdubuntu1:~/edgy/xdrawchem/dapper/xdrawchem-1.9.8/debian$ apt-cache madison mythtv
[05:15] <bddebian>     mythtv | 0.18.1-5ubuntu3 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages
[05:15] <bddebian>     mythtv | 0.18.1-5ubuntu3 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Sources
[05:15] <FunnyLookinHat> madison eh?
[05:16] <Hobbsee> didnt know madison could be used for that
[05:16] <FunnyLookinHat> afaik there is no "freeze" for multiverse
[05:16] <Hobbsee> guess it can
[05:17] <bddebian> You could also do an apt-cache showsrc and look at the Directory: entry I suppose
[05:17] <bddebian> Or apt-cache policy
[05:18] <FunnyLookinHat> bddebian is uber-|337
[05:18] <bddebian> Not hardly
[05:31] <crimsun> -> google://BdDebianIsAGod
[05:31] <crimsun> FunnyHat_Away: I don't know offhand
[05:31] <FunnyHat_Away> crimsun, that is in reply to...?
[05:31] <FunnyHat_Away> : )
[05:34] <crimsun> FunnyHat_Away: misdirected.
[05:34] <crimsun> Hawkwind: I don't know offhand
[05:34] <fowlduck> someone package Gnome Iconset Builder, thats so nice
[05:34] <crimsun> fowlduck: you can.
[05:34] <fowlduck> crimsun, it's not what we call stable
[05:35] <bddebian> crimsun: How does maxima die?
[05:35] <crimsun> bddebian: no access to the machine currently (down)
[05:35] <bddebian> Ah, OK
[05:35] <crimsun> if/when I can reproduce, I'll file a bug w/ detalis
[05:35] <crimsun> details ^
[05:35] <fowlduck> crimsun, I could, but then I'd have to put it up for revu...and I have a few more that I'd like to do....maybe in a could weeks
[05:36] <fowlduck> s/could/couple
[05:36] <fowlduck> i know you care, heh, i'll be quiet
[05:40] <crimsun> fowlduck: putting on them revu is a start
[05:42] <bddebian> Is dh_iconcache still needed?
[05:43] <crimsun> bddebian: yes
[05:43] <crimsun> if the app is cdbs-based and uses kde.mk (system, not in debian/), then the call to it can be removed
[05:44] <bddebian> thx
[05:44] <crimsun> otherwise it needs to be retained
[05:59] <fowlduck> where would I ask about how to make themes?  Anyone know a link or something?
[06:00] <crimsun> for what DE?
[06:00] <fowlduck> gnome
[06:00] <fowlduck> sorry, icon themes specifically
[06:01] <crimsun> look on art.gnome.org and gnome-look.org for tutorial links
[06:01] <fowlduck> ok, thx
[06:16] <Hobbsee> ajmitch, siretart?  ping?
[06:16] <Hobbsee> or any other revu admin?
[06:18] <ajmitch> yes?
[06:19] <chillywilly> yo
[06:19] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: i've uploaded polyxmass-bin to revu, and it's died midupload.  can you delete it please?
[06:20] <ajmitch> removed
[06:21] <bddebian> Hobbsee: What'd you have to change?
[06:21] <bddebian> Heya chillywilly
[06:21] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: thanks
[06:22] <Hobbsee> hey imbrandon
[06:23] <Hawkwind> Heya imbrandon_
[06:24] <bddebian> Heya imbrandon
[06:24] <imbrandon_> moins
[06:24] <imbrandon_> heya bddebian
[06:42] <bddebian> OK, well all the syncs I can do are done so I guess it's bed time
[06:42] <crimsun> it's your birthday.
[06:42] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:42] <Hobbsee> go on bddebian :P
[06:45] <bddebian> crimsun: Does it ftbfs?
[06:46] <crimsun> bddebian: yep
[06:46] <crimsun> should be a straightforward dh_install tweak
[06:47] <bddebian> checking
[07:04] <bddebian> crimsun: Yep it blew up.  I'll check on it while I'm on vacation
[07:05] <crimsun> bddebian: no need, take a good vacation
[07:05] <Hobbsee> bddebian: boo.  want to ack the sync?
[07:05] <Hobbsee> bug 52838
[07:05] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 52838 in polyxmass-bin "[Edgy MoM]  Please sync polyxmass-bin 0.9.7-1 from Debian Sid" [Untriaged,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/52838
[07:05] <crimsun> I'll punch ivtools til it cooperates or my hand hurts.
[07:05] <bddebian> heh
[07:05] <bddebian> Did you see the BTS bug about it?
[07:05] <crimsun> yeah
[07:06] <bddebian> Made no sense :-)
[07:07] <bddebian> Well hell, I had better get to bed.  Catch you all in a day or two
[07:08] <bddebian> Hobbsee: ack'd
[07:08] <Hobbsee> bddebian: thanks
[07:08] <bddebian> No, THANK YOU ;-)
[07:15] <sharms> anyone read my -devel message?
[07:15] <lifeless> no need to spam multiple channels
[07:15] <sharms> didn't know if anyone was awake in -devel, its always much more quiet
[07:28] <crimsun> haha
[07:29] <crimsun> that cloak rules
[07:31] <imbrandon_> crimsun, ?
[07:32] <Hobbsee> imbrandon_: ajmitch's, i expect
[07:32] <Hobbsee>  /ubuntu/butnotamember/ajmitch
[07:32] <imbrandon_> ahh ;) yea heheh thanks to rob ;)
[07:33] <imbrandon_> for a half sec i thought he ment mine, and i was like wth is so special aobut mine LOL
[07:48] <imbrandon_> crimsun, ping
[07:49] <crimsun> imbrandon_: pong
[07:50] <imbrandon_> hey got time to re-revu a packe and upload ( new package to ubuntu universe but riddell said uvf dident apply ) and you looked once , i made all the changes you and him proposed and he advocated it
[07:50] <imbrandon_> package*
[07:50] <crimsun> sure, upid?
[07:50] <imbrandon_> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2663
[07:50] <crimsun> (right, UVF for universe is in late Sept.)
[07:50] <imbrandon_> yea
[07:51] <crimsun> give me ~3 mins to catch up on e-mail, please
[07:51] <imbrandon_> np
[07:59] <crimsun> imbrandon_: ok, couple more comments: 1) There are some changes that seem unnecessary, like the addition of a trailing empty line in debian/dirs and the debian/postinst that does nothing; 2) don't strip the original debianisation in debian/copyright; Dmitry is the rightful person, but you certainly should add your work: "...and modified for Ubuntu by ..."
[08:00] <crimsun> imbrandon_: other than that, it looks suitable for uploading
[08:01] <imbrandon_> sure, gimme a few to make the mods
[08:06] <imbrandon_> crimsun, something like .... ( sorry for the paste its only 4 lines )
[08:07] <imbrandon_> This package was debianized by Dmitry N. Hramtsov <hdn@nsu.ru> on
[08:07] <imbrandon_> Sat, 27 Jul 2002 12:44:33 +0700.
[08:07] <imbrandon_> And modified for Ubuntu by Brandon Holtsclaw <imbrandon@kubuntu.org> on
[08:07] <imbrandon_> Mon, 10 Jul 2006 12:44:33 -0500.
[08:07] <imbrandon_> is what ya mean ?
[08:07] <crimsun> yep, save without the full stop before "And" (which should be lowercase)
[08:08] <imbrandon_> kk
[08:13] <imbrandon_> ok re-uploaded, i'll ping ya when it shows on revu ( 5 min cycles )
[08:17] <imbrandon_> crimsun, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2695
[08:20] <crimsun> imbrandon_: noted.
[08:20] <Hobbsee> bug 3406
[08:20] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 3406 in ksynaptics "ksynaptics not working in dapper/breezy" [Medium,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3406
[08:41] <pygi> @osijek
[08:41] <pygi> ergh :P
[08:45] <ivoks> pygi: lol
[08:46] <pygi> ivoks, just you laugh :P
[09:14] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: you mean i cant get an upload in that will break main now?  darn!!! :P
[09:14] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: you can, but I might pay StevenK to pay a visit to your house to jump on you in person. :-P
[09:15] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: haha.
[09:15] <StevenK> Now that would be cool.
[09:15] <crimsun> oh man, I'd pay-per-view
[09:15] <Hobbsee> oh yeah, guess he does know where i am, hey...
[09:15] <Hobbsee> this of course depends in the definition of jumped on.
[09:15] <Hobbsee> hehe
[09:17] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: you'd also have to find a key to let StevenK in...
[09:18] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: or I could just be mean and have your upload rights revoked. :-P
[09:18] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: what, the non-existant ones?  go for it1q
[09:18] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: hmm, I always think you're a motu.  Well, then you can't break main anyway.
[09:19] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: after wednesday, hopefully i will be.  unless they give me core-dev righs that day too :P
[09:19] <Mithrandir> you're clearly not that trustworthy. ;-P
[09:19] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: and i can still get people to sponsor stuff - although probably not stuff that will break
[09:19] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[09:19] <Mithrandir> let's hope so, yes.
[09:19] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: they trust me with excessively large amounts of money at work, yet you dont with repos?
[09:20] <Mithrandir> what's excessively large?  >1M AUD?
[09:20] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: nah, not quite htat much - only an entire supermarket full of money.
[09:20] <Hobbsee> that's out on the floor
[09:20] <Mithrandir> and also, no I wouldn't necessarily trust you just because you handle loads of money.  That's not my money.
[09:21] <crimsun> cool, more motus? /me pushes some work toward Hobbsee ;)
[09:21] <Hobbsee> hehe
[09:21] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: haha
[09:21] <zakame> hi all
[09:22] <Hobbsee> hey zakame
[09:22] <zakame> heya Hobbsee how are your merges?
[09:22] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: no, i dont have upload rights.  i usually end up persuading people to upload my many things for me.
[09:22] <Hobbsee> hey zakame.  not doing many at the moment, i was fighting with kopete last night, and doing bits of bugfixing today, before i saw autoconf breaking.
[09:23] <zakame> awww autotools
[09:23] <imbrandon_> moins zakame
[09:23] <zakame> heya imbrandon_
[09:23] <zakame> how's kubuntu hacking? =)
[09:23] <Hobbsee> zakame: imbrandon_ 's been lazy, and left it all to me :P
[09:24] <imbrandon_> good good ;)
[09:24] <zakame> lol
[09:24] <imbrandon_> hahaha
[09:24] <imbrandon_> Hobbsee, not quite but most ;)
[09:24] <zakame> I see we're UVF now
[09:24] <Hobbsee> zakame: for main,yeha.
[09:24] <Hobbsee> zakame: break things anyway.
[09:25] <imbrandon_> hrm Hobbsee i dident get that patch to apply corerect, erm hold on i might not have the latest source *looks*
[09:25] <zakame> ah
[09:25] <imbrandon_> crimsun, so laterish your gonna upload the apt-mirror ? just wondering so we're all on the same page no hurries or anything
[09:28] <crimsun> imbrandon_: I'd like to have another MOTU advocate first
[09:29] <crimsun> just a formality, but it's important as we dive into easier-motuing.
[09:30] <imbrandon_> ahh well Riddell advocated too and i thought you would be #2 ;) but no worries i'll grab second if wanted
[09:30] <imbrandon_> erm 3rd i guess
[09:30] <Riddell> huh?  we need 3 advocates now?
[09:31] <Riddell> that's not easier motuing :)
[09:31] <imbrandon_> i thought it was 2 but ummm
[09:31] <Hobbsee> heh
[09:31] <crimsun> Riddell: no, per-upload
[09:31] <imbrandon_> heh
[09:31] <imbrandon_> ahh ok so Riddell news to relook again since it was changed a bit
[09:31] <crimsun> imbrandon_: per-paranoia I don't carry over advocates.
[09:31] <crimsun> right.
[09:31] <imbrandon_> ahh ok /me pokes riddell if he has time
[09:31] <imbrandon_> need a url ?
[09:32] <crimsun> (zakame is also a MOTU)
[09:32] <imbrandon_> or zakeme
[09:32] <imbrandon_> ;)
[09:32] <Riddell> imbrandon_: after the meeting
[09:32] <imbrandon_> ok no worries
[09:32] <Hobbsee> Riddell: what meeting?
[09:32] <imbrandon_> meeting?
[09:32] <crimsun> Ubuntu dev team meeting
[09:32] <Hobbsee> a
[09:32] <imbrandon_> ahh ok
[09:32] <Hobbsee> darn - pity work gets in the way
[10:03] <lucas> copy/paste from #ubuntu-devel:
[10:03] <lucas> [09:37:34]  <lucas> I'm preparing an announcement to ask users to participate in popcon
[10:03] <lucas> [09:37:42]  <lucas> can somebody review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucasNussbaum/PopconDraft ?
[10:03] <lucas> [09:37:46]  <lucas> (feel free to edit it)
[10:07] <ogra> lucas, its in the default install, no need to apt-get it
[10:07] <Toadstool> 'morning
[10:07] <lucas> that's why I say that "(changes are very high that you have it already) :"
[10:07] <lucas> ok, I'll change it to a note saying that it's in the default install
[10:10] <lucas> any other comments ?
[10:11] <ogra> looks good
[10:11] <lucas> ok
[10:12] <lucas> I'll send it to ubuntu-d-a. Do you think it's worth sending to ubuntu-users ?
[10:12] <lucas> or any other mailing list I'm unaware of ? :-)
[10:12] <lucas> (/me not a big fan of ubuntu mailing lists)
[10:12] <ogra> -user sounds good to get a wide audience
[10:12] <ogra> *-users
[10:12] <lucas> I imagine I have to subscribe before posting ?
[10:14] <lucas> (done)
[10:27] <imbrandon_> heh i had to read that twice, i was thinking , man who would name a package "popcorn"
[12:38] <crimsun> ahh, much better. Now it feels like a development branch again.
[12:40] <lifeless> what, you mean 'fucked' ?
[12:40] <crimsun> :)
[12:40] <rob> hehe
[12:40] <Toadstool> now that everything is broken again I can dist-upgrade :)
[01:02] <imbrandon> anyone know whats going on with gluck.debian.org ? and if it affects our servers/repos at all ?
[01:02] <imbrandon> ( not much infor on the mailing list or new articles )
[01:04] <imbrandon>  /msg dpkg guidelines
[01:04] <imbrandon> doh
[01:07] <Toadstool> imbrandon: gluck.d.o has been compromised and it doesn't affect Ubuntu at all
[01:09] <imbrandon> Toadstool, ok , yea i knew it had been just dident know if we needed to check syncs etc ;) np was just curious
[01:10] <Toadstool> imbrandon: gluck "only" hosts the primary webserver and planet.d.o (see http://db.debian.org/machines.cgi?host=gluck)
[01:10] <imbrandon> ahh nice , ok good ;)
[01:10] <imbrandon> thanks Toadstool for clearing that up for me ;)
[01:10] <Toadstool> np :)
[01:34] <fabo> a pbuilder create gives me dpkg-parsechangelog: error: cannot open debian/changelog to find format ... Cannot understand package version/source
[01:35] <fabo> any idea ?
[01:37] <imbrandon> !info kdissert edgy
[01:37] <ubotu> kdissert: mindmapping tool. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6-waf-b-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 855 kB, installed size 2584 kB
[01:38] <imbrandon> ajmitch, ping
[01:39] <imbrandon> crimsun, ping also
[01:40] <dholbach> I start MOTU/FAQ now (in order to answer the latest mail on ubuntu-devel@)
[01:41] <imbrandon> dholbach, nice
[01:41] <dholbach> would be nice, if you could add stuff there as well
[01:41] <imbrandon> wanna sponsor an upload for me real fast ?? hehe i'll trade for some wiki work
[01:41] <dholbach> so we don't have it only in the bot
[01:41] <dholbach> but somewhere else as well
[01:41] <dholbach> imbrandon: ok
[01:41] <imbrandon> dholbach, sure thing
[01:42] <dholbach> what do you want to get sponsored?
[01:42] <imbrandon> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2695  <-- the upload , its a new package i have two advocates ( crimsun and riddell )
[01:42] <imbrandon> for universe
[01:43] <imbrandon> also i need to find out how to mark a package ( kdissert ) as uploaded on revu, the version i posted on revu has been uploaded to edgy already
[01:45] <imbrandon> hrm /MOTU/FAQ and /MOTU/Faq neither are there, have you saved yet ?
[01:45] <imbrandon> ahh nvm
[01:45] <imbrandon> just showed
[01:45] <imbrandon> !packageversions > imbrandon
[01:46] <dholbach> i wondered why they didn't upload it
[01:48] <dholbach> uploaded
[01:49] <imbrandon> thanks, and i just asked riddell to advocate becouse he was busy and told him i would find an uploader
[02:02] <imbrandon> anyone have experince with dpkg-cross or building packages for another arch on an x86 ?
[02:04] <imbrandon> dholbach, think maybe MOTU/School and /Classrom could work togather? or should we keep user and motu/dev seperate ?
[02:05] <dholbach> what was classroom intended to be?
[02:05] <imbrandon> its part of the NUN
[02:05] <imbrandon> new user network
[02:06] <imbrandon> bi-weekly classes or a wide range of things
[02:06] <imbrandon> ( irc style )
[02:06] <dholbach> seems to be a different audience, no?
[02:06] <tolonuga> hi. is anyone here willing to create an updated package of openct for dapper-updates? if so I will create a patch relative to the current package for you fixing two open bugs rendering the package unusable.
[02:06] <dholbach> i dunno - how do others feel about it?
[02:06] <dholbach> hi tolonuga
[02:06] <imbrandon> dholbach, yea , new user & motu/dev
[02:06] <imbrandon> two diff aud
[02:06] <imbrandon> but same idea
[02:06] <dholbach> tolonuga: did you write the mail to ubuntu-devel@?
[02:06] <tolonuga> yes.
[02:06] <dholbach> tolonuga: did you assign the bugs to the 'motu-reviewers' team?
[02:07] <imbrandon> and attach the pacth to the bug ?
[02:07] <dholbach> yeah
[02:07] <tolonuga> assign? need to check.
[02:07] <imbrandon> patch*
[02:08] <dholbach> tolonuga: i answered to your mail (in case you didn't read it) - the answer is on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/FAQ
[02:11] <tolonuga> how do I assign someone? In launchpad I see no such bug. maybe "Subscribe Someone Else"?
[02:16] <tolonuga> how do I open an dapper-updates tasks?
[02:17] <imbrandon> not sure on that one
[02:23] <dholbach> tolonuga: just mention it in the bug report - that should be fine
[02:24] <tolonuga> ah, ok thanks.
[02:25] <dholbach> cool
[02:25] <imbrandon> dholbach, just curious shouldt that apt-mirror have come accross edgy-changes ?
[02:25] <tolonuga> are launchpad bugs usualy closed via the lines in debian/changelog too? what is the proper notion? "(closes 5299)"?
[02:25] <dholbach> imbrandon: it sits in NEW
[02:25] <imbrandon> ahh ok
[02:25] <imbrandon> till ?
[02:25] <dholbach> imbrandon: it will have to be briefly reviewed by the archive admins, then it'll be on edgy changes
[02:26] <imbrandon> ahh ok np, just never had a NEW package yet ;)
[02:26] <dholbach> ah ok
[02:26] <imbrandon> tolonuga, no , most of the time the uploader that uploads ( and changes the changelog , will mark the bug as "fix released" ) etc
[02:27] <imbrandon> IE its not automated
[02:27] <dholbach> tolonuga: there is no automatism yet
[02:27] <dholbach> it's being worked on, afaik
[02:28] <dholbach> bbl
[02:28] <imbrandon> ;) have a good lunch ;)
[02:29] <dholbach> merci
[02:29] <pygi> hey NFS ^_^
[02:31] <tolonuga> thanks a lot, have a good lunch
[02:33] <imbrandon> heya pygi ;)
[02:33] <pygi> imbrandon, yay, you know who you are ^_^
[02:33] <imbrandon> hahah yea i think i'
[02:33] <pygi> imbrandon, :)
[02:34] <imbrandon> i'll have that nickname for a long time from you ;)
[02:34] <imbrandon> hehe
[02:34] <imbrandon> wb Hobbsee_
[02:34] <pygi> not really, I promise this is the last time ^_^
[02:34] <imbrandon> hahah np ;)
[02:34] <pygi> so what's up??
[02:34] <Hobbsee> hey all
[02:34] <Hobbsee> someone want to say what went on?
[02:35] <imbrandon> nadda finding stuff on LP to work on
[02:35] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, went on where ?
[02:35] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: when i just connected - i've got no idea what anyone said
[02:36] <imbrandon> ohh nothing, i just said "hi"
[02:36] <Hobbsee> ah :)
[02:36] <Hobbsee> hey imbrandon :)
[02:36] <imbrandon> you konw my xp clone theme ? i got my iBook to look exactly like osx jaguar
[02:36] <imbrandon> ;)
[02:37] <pygi> imbrandon, I haven't found any cheaper iBook
[02:37] <imbrandon> pygi, that still a good deal for that one
[02:38] <pygi> imbrandon, yes, probably
[02:42] <tolonuga> Hi again. I have a patch against openct which fixes two bugs in the dapper package. could anyone look at the patch and maybe upload the new openct package with it into dapper-updates? or what would be the best way to proceed?
[02:47] <tolonuga> attached it to bug 50299 and bug 50393 in hope that someone can have a look.
[02:47] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 50299 in openct "openct sometimes fails" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/50299
[02:47] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 50393 in openct "openct doesn't work in dapper (after first reboot)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/50393
[03:07] <Seveas> !pbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment at, you can read more about setting it up on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[03:07] <ubotu> pbuilder is already known...
[03:07] <Seveas> !pbuilder
[03:07] <ubotu> pbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[03:07] <Seveas> hmm
[03:07] <Seveas> !-pbuilder
[03:07] <ubotu> pbuilder has no aliases - Added by Hobbsee on 2006-06-18 15:48:29
[03:07] <Seveas> ah
[03:08] <Hobbsee> say what?
[03:08] <Seveas> just wanted to know when it was added 
[03:10] <StevenK> Seveas: Can't ubotu say "I already know about <>, dummy."
[03:12] <Hobbsee> ah
[03:20] <Yagisan> hmm
[03:21] <Yagisan> Seveas: that looks like a useful bot. Could I set one up on another channel
[03:21] <Yagisan> ?
[03:31] <Seveas> Yagisan, it's open source 
[03:35] <Yagisan> Seveas: as I'm a bit slow today would you kindly point me towards where I could find it.
[03:37] <Seveas> Yagisan, launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots/
[03:37] <Yagisan> Seveas: Thank You
[03:41] <Yagisan> Seveas: I'm getting a 403 on https://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/tarballs/
[03:42] <Seveas> Yagisan, then use bzr 
[03:42] <Yagisan> ah
[03:42] <Yagisan> I'll add that to my todo list then.
[03:44] <Seveas> bzr branch http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/
[03:58] <raphink> this Dan is cute ;)
[03:58] <raphink> I mean what he said on the ubuntu-motu list
[03:58] <raphink> I have about four computers and am trying to set up a big
[03:58] <raphink> fat network.
[03:59] <raphink> reminds me of how big a deal it was to me to set 4 machines in network with tcp-ip when I was his age
[03:59] <raphink> that was fun
[04:01] <fowlduck> hi
[04:07] <FunnyLookinHat> raphink, Where can I get my email address on the motu mailing list?  i can't seem to find it on the wiki page
[04:08] <raphink> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu
[04:08] <FunnyLookinHat> awesome thanks
[05:17] <kelmo_lap> moin siretart
[05:28] <kelmo_lap> siretart, will be afk for a few days, thought you ought to know
[05:29] <cbx33> is it easy to run install fulxbox and gnome on the same ubuntu machine
[05:29] <cbx33> and switch between them on logon?
[05:31] <gorski> how to create .deb files?
[05:32] <jpatrick> gorski: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[05:34] <FunnyLookinHat> gorski, good luck...  it's a bit confusing  : )
[05:34] <gorski> tnx, i'll give it a try
[05:35] <gorski> it is like a crusader's task, you know.
[05:40] <Yagisan> cbx33: should be. btw #ubuntu or #edubuntu next time
[05:40] <cbx33> sorry Yagisan
[05:40] <Yagisan> cbx33: no worries, just passing on the advice I get for being to off topic
[05:41] <cbx33> heheh
[05:50] <bluefoxicy> wtf boobs?
[05:50] <bluefoxicy> New in repository: liboobs-1-0
[05:51] <Hobbsee> bluefoxicy: the joke wasnt great the last few days in -devel and it's not funny today either.
[05:52] <bluefoxicy> Hobbsee:  Funny or not, what I want to know is if some dev did it intentionally or if they thought it'd be funny
[05:52] <bluefoxicy> err.  did intentionally/didn't really notice
[05:52] <jpatrick> bluefoxicy: don't forgot your libsexy-doc
[05:54] <bluefoxicy> jpatrick:  I'm sure that one wasn't really intentional :p
[05:58] <bluefoxicy> hmm.  Upgrading ubuntu-desktop removes gnucash
[06:43] <phanatic> hi people
[06:45] <Gloubiboulga> hey phanatic
[06:45] <phanatic> hey Gloubiboulga
[06:48] <bluefoxicy> http://lwn.net/Articles/190139/ is now open content :D
[06:57] <Spec> the article or prelink?
[07:34] <LaserJock> dholbach: ping?
[07:34] <dholbach> LaserJock: pong
[07:35] <LaserJock> dholbach: did you see my comment on Mentors/Discussion?
[07:36] <dholbach> LaserJock: yes, I did
[07:36] <dholbach> LaserJock: I think we should add a more inviting text above the list
[07:36] <LaserJock> dholbach: also, I think I got my first catch from Mentors
[07:37] <Ramunas> hello
[07:37] <dholbach> LaserJock: the list just reflects reality - we can't maintain something like "office hours" in there or something
[07:37] <dholbach> hey Ramunas
[07:37] <dholbach> LaserJock: WOW!
[07:37] <Ramunas> any ideas when new amarok will be added to repos?
[07:38] <dholbach> Ramunas: we as the MOTUs don't take care of 'main' applications - you might want to ask in #kubuntu-devel about the plans
[07:38] <Ramunas> ah, thanks
[07:38] <LaserJock> dholbach: yeah, but maybe we can put it in a less negative way. Maybe we should give TZ and have text on the top that says something along the lines of "MOTU mentors have many responsibilites besides mentoring so please be patient, they will get back to you"
[07:39] <dholbach> LaserJock: ok - if you find another way, I'm happy with it
[07:39] <dholbach> LaserJock: I understand your concern, I'm quite sure nobody would write somebody who is "very busy" :)
[07:40] <LaserJock> but we do need a way to say that we "are" busy so it might take some time, and some people are less busy than others
[07:41] <dholbach> maybe say something like "I'd like to take one or two motu hopefuls" and somebody else can say "I'm fine with 3-4"
[07:41] <dholbach> and another column with how many you actually have?
[07:41] <dholbach> *shrug*
[07:41] <LaserJock> yeah, maybe a column with how many more you are currently willing to take
[07:42] <LaserJock> I'm guessing we'll need to "feel" our way through this for a while since I have no idea what I'm doing at least :-)
[07:42] <dholbach> yeah :)
[07:43] <LaserJock> I guess with this person I got today I'd be up to 3
[07:43] <LaserJock> not sure how much time this is going to take
[07:44] <dholbach> i think it's going to take until they are comfortable with asking their own questions on the list or the channel
[07:44] <LaserJock> k
[07:44] <LaserJock> I'm going to have to come up with a list of items to take them through, just so I can remember and be consistent
[07:45] <LaserJock> I think the FAQ is going to rock
[07:45] <LaserJock> btw :-)
[07:45] <dholbach> it will be good 'market research' for us to find out which problems we have and what could be made easier
[07:45] <LaserJock> yes
[07:46] <LaserJock> much easier to fix things and create documentation when you know what the issues are ;-)
[07:46] <LaserJock> !
[07:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:46] <LaserJock> excelent
[07:47] <dholbach> ;)
[07:47] <ogra> ubotu, are you a bot ?
[07:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about are you a bot ? - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:47] <LaserJock> ogra: not as friendly as our girl :-)
[07:48] <ogra> why the heck does nobody program a sane answer to that in their bots ?
[07:48] <ogra> yeah, she's still the most lovely bot
[07:48] <zul> tradition?
[07:51] <siretart> slomo: concratulation for your finished NM questionaire! :)
[07:51] <LaserJock> \o/
[07:52] <slomo> siretart: thanks :) i didn't notice that he set it to finished already...
[07:52] <slomo> siretart: oh lol, he wrote me in irc at this very moment :)
[07:52] <siretart> slomo: I just read the report on the mailinglist
[07:52] <LaserJock> man, #ubuntu-xgl has a lot of factoids for the bot
[07:53] <siretart> LaserJock: add them! :)
[07:53] <LaserJock> azeem: hi!
[07:53] <azeem> hi Jordan
[07:53] <LaserJock> azeem: seems ghemical is a bit sick :/
[07:54] <azeem> oh :(
[07:54] <LaserJock> !revu
[07:54] <ubotu> REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU
[07:54] <LaserJock> azeem: it's FTBS in edgy
[07:55] <LaserJock> azeem: somebody said it wasn't compiling well in unstable either but I haven't checked
[07:56] <LaserJock> azeem: is it compiling fine for you?
[07:57] <azeem> it FTBFS on ia64
[07:57] <LaserJock> k
[07:57] <LaserJock> I'm on x86
[07:58] <LaserJock> azeem: want the pbuilder output?
[07:58] <azeem> sure
[07:58] <LaserJock> could be something I'm doing wrong
[07:58] <azeem> however, I'm off now, either mail me or highlight an URL
[07:59] <LaserJock> azeem: alright, thanks
[08:26] <imbrandon> !revu
[08:26] <ubotu> REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there"
[08:26] <ubotu> for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU
[08:27] <imbrandon> little more readable LaserJock ^^ ;)
[08:27] <LaserJock> yeah
[08:27] <LaserJock> imbrandon: are you able to add factoids?
[08:28] <imbrandon> yea
[08:28] <imbrandon> %editors
[08:28] <ubotu> Seveas, gnomefreak, apokryphos, ompaul, thoreauputic, Hobbsee, Amaranth, bimberi, nalioth, Madpilot, LjL, Riddell, imbrandon, uniq
[08:28] <imbrandon> LaserJock, need some done ?
[08:28] <Seveas> imbrandon, don't abuse the also thing if you can put it in one line
[08:28] <imbrandon> ok Seveas
[08:29] <Seveas> !forget revu-also
[08:29] <ubotu> I've forgotten it
[08:29] <Seveas> !revu =~ s/$/ for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU/
[08:29] <ubotu> You used the delimiter too often. Maybe try another one?
[08:29] <Seveas> !revu =~ s#$# for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU#
[08:29] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[08:29] <LaserJock> Seveas: so can you make factoids channel specific?
[08:30] <Seveas> yes
[08:30] <imbrandon> yea !ops is chan specific
[08:30] <LaserJock> k
[08:30] <Seveas> all xgl factoids are channel specific 
[08:30] <LaserJock> yeah, I saw that
[08:30] <LaserJock> that's why I asked
[08:30] <LaserJock> it looked like it was possible
[08:31] <Seveas> (channel specific factoids can still be accessed from other channels though)
[08:31] <LaserJock> sure
[08:32] <LaserJock> I was just thinking there might be some items that might overlap a bit and I'd like to have a -motu specific version
[08:53] <sharms2> if I update a control file do I need to increment the version #?
[08:54] <LaserJock> well, you can't reupload the same package with changes
[08:54] <LaserJock> sharms2: are you talking about for REVU?
[08:54] <LaserJock> or just in general?
[08:54] <sharms2> LaserJock: in general, you just answered it
[08:55] <LaserJock> for REVU you can override your package and it's ok because it seperates each upload
[08:55] <LaserJock> but the archives don't do that
[09:22] <sharms2> I don't have my gpg key with me (on a laptop at school) so if I want to test a package and am getting: Failed to sign .dsc and .changes file    what can I do?
[09:23] <sharms2> using: dpkg-buildpackage -S -rfakeroot
[09:23] <tseng> thats a warning, not an error
[09:23] <tseng> it builds the package
[09:23] <tseng> now, without the gpg key and a valid signature, dont expect to upload it to revu or ubuntu
[09:23] <tseng> but it built it.
[09:25] <sharms2> tseng: I didnt see the normal gcc stuff fly by, shouldnt I have?
[09:25] <tseng> no
[09:25] <tseng> -S = source
[09:26] <bluefoxicy> Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkfont.c: line 335 (gdk_string_width): assertion `font != NULL' failed.
[09:26] <bluefoxicy> so much for audacity.
[09:28] <sharms2> I figured it out, I believe I am retarded
[09:29] <Seveas> !foo
[09:29] <ubotu> foo is LaserJock
[09:29] <tseng>  I don't get it
[09:29] <LaserJock> sweet
[09:29] <tseng> !foo
[09:29] <ubotu> foo is LaserJock
[09:29] <tseng> ok then.
[09:30] <LaserJock> tseng: bot testing :-)
[09:48] <fowlduck> how do i get the debian/ contents out of an existing package?
[09:49] <LaserJock> fowlduck: grab the source package
[09:49] <fowlduck> heh, I didn't make one? :/
[09:49] <fowlduck> is there another way?
[09:50] <LaserJock> ok, I don't understand
[09:50] <fowlduck> i made one, but i don't know where it is
[09:50] <fowlduck> i just have the binary now
[09:50] <slomo> it's lost in the binary
[09:51] <LaserJock> you can sort of get bits and pieces, but the binary doesn't have the debian/, I dont' think
[09:51] <LaserJock> good idea :-)
[09:55] <LaserJock> !mentors
[09:55] <ubotu> for initial mentoring to introduce you to the MOTU world check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Mentors
[09:56] <tseng> thats useful
[09:56] <tseng> if i can remember it
[09:56] <LaserJock> hehe
[10:12] <sharms2> ++ for mentors
[10:18] <crimsun> imbrandon: pong, but in n' out for the next 6 hours
[10:21] <LaserJock> !seen dholbach
[10:21] <ubotu> I last saw dholbach (n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach) 54m 25s ago, quiting: "Ex-Chat"
[10:21] <LaserJock> sweet
[10:26] <_ion> ajmitch: I posted a patch to bug #36531
[10:26] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 36531 in f-spot "f-spot-screensaver and gnome-screensaver don't mix" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/36531
[10:33] <LaserJock> !info plotdrop
[10:33] <ubotu> plotdrop: A minimal GNOME frontend to GNUPlot. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 25 kB, installed size 184 kB
[10:34] <LaserJock> extra coolness
[10:34] <crimsun> !info plotdrop edgy
[10:34] <ubotu> plotdrop: A minimal GNOME frontend to GNUPlot. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 184 kB
[10:35] <LaserJock> hmm, I wonder if it works with Debian
[10:35] <LaserJock> !info plotdrop unstable
[10:35] <ubotu> plotdrop: A minimal GNOME frontend to GNUPlot. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 25 kB, installed size 184 kB
[10:35] <LaserJock> :(
[11:33] <bluefoxicy> Is anyone else getting hit on?  o_o
[11:34] <tseng> thanks for sharing that.
[11:51] <LaserJock> bluefoxicy: hmm, how come I never get hit on :(
[11:52] <LaserJock> they must be afraid of the lasers
[11:52] <LaserJock> :-)
[11:53] <cbx33> hi LaserJock
[11:53] <LaserJock> hi cbx33, no I haven't reviewed it yet
[11:53] <cbx33> I wasn't goign to ask
[11:53] <LaserJock> you were thinking it though :-)
[11:53] <cbx33> I know you're busy, bud, you'll get to it when you have time
[11:54] <LaserJock> I'm buying >$2000 worth of optics today
[11:54] <cbx33> actually no, I was thinking why is my f***ing computer giving so much lag in Jack
[11:54] <cbx33> and why does zsynaddfx crash my machine
[11:58] <LaserJock> I'm struggling with how in the heck I ended up doing so many things
[11:59] <cbx33> :D it works
[11:59] <LaserJock> I need to figure out how to administer a mediawiki wiki today :-)
[12:02] <cbx33> ah