[12:55] jdong! [12:55] Riddell: free? [12:55] abattoir: sure [12:56] Riddell: i have some doubts... [12:56] what about? [12:56] for ubiquity, you split the UI into two files, liveinstaller and kde-ui [12:56] yes [12:56] liveinstaller seems to be the file converted from the UI [12:56] while kde-ui is invoked by wizard.py [12:57] liveinstaller.ui is the designer file [12:57] and creates an instance of the class from liveinstaller [12:57] and liveinstaller.py is the file automatically generated from it [12:57] yep [12:57] sorry, should have been more clear, i meant liveinstaller.py [12:57] Riddell: just wondering, how did you test ubiquity... [12:57] i mean, w/o installing it [12:57] from a live CD [12:58] Riddell: ugh, i need to explain myself better [12:58] I have a minimac that I used for the installs [12:58] which doesn't have anything important on the hard disk [12:58] Riddell: i mean, while coding... didnt you run the ui, for eg. to see if the signals/slots worked? [12:58] sure [12:58] Riddell: ok, i'm again being vague... [12:59] when you were testing the kde-ui.... [12:59] liveinstaller.py is made from liveinstaller.ui [12:59] with kdepyuic [12:59] Riddell: yup, i got that [12:59] but doesnt kde-ui control, the order of steps, change in pages etc...? [12:59] change in pages, in the widget stack [12:59] it does yes [01:00] how did you test it? to see if it was working properly? while coding? [01:00] by running it [01:00] Riddell: that would create two KApplications right? [01:01] no, there's only one, in kde-ui.py [01:01] Riddell: i guess you added 'if __name__=="__main__":' in the kde-ui.py file... [01:01] and then executed it... am i right? [01:02] ubiquity is run from a file called "installer" if I remember rightly. it gets renamed to "ubiquity" in when the package is made [01:03] yes, I do remember right [01:03] so ./installer kde-ui to test [01:03] and installer loads kde-ui.py which loads liveinstaller.py and make the KApplication and voila [01:04] Riddell: ok, so you didnt directly load kde-ui.py... [01:04] no [01:04] Riddell: ok, thanks :) [01:04] Riddell: sorry for being a bit vague... [01:05] also, do you have a clue about how to make qlabels selectable? [01:05] so you can copy the text from them? [01:05] i couldnt seem to find anything on those... yes, right [01:05] are you using qt3 or 4? [01:05] 3.3 [01:06] hmm, good question [01:07] Riddell: because Kamion has made a note in gtk-ui.py about a bug in ubiquity [01:07] # We generally want labels to be selectable so that people can [01:07] # easily report problems in them [01:07] # (https://launchpad.net/bugs/41618), but GTK+ likes to put [01:07] # selectable labels in the focus chain, and I can't seem to turn [01:07] # this off in glade and have it stick. Accordingly, make sure [01:07] # labels are unfocusable here. [01:07] Malone bug 41618 in ubiquity "Installer dialogue boxes have no cut and paste" [Medium,Fix released] [01:07] sorry for the flood [01:08] :P === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A63FCF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:11] abattoir: I think the way to do it is to have a lineedit that has readonly set to True and frameShape set to NoFrame [01:12] Riddell: oh ok... its funny because i see lots of KDE apps which have that, but then i cant find anything in qt docs [01:12] Konv ^^^^^ for eg. :P [01:12] the title is selectable [01:13] ugh, i mean the topic, channel topic [01:13] so all we need to do it grab the konversation source and find out :) [01:14] Riddell: lol, i'll look into it and get back to you... [01:14] Riddell: there must be an example somewhere online [01:14] thanks again :) [01:15] abattoir: #kde-devel points me to http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKActiveLabel.html [01:16] Riddell: excellent, thanks a lot :) [01:17] which is indeed what konversation uses [01:18] ok, i'll ask Kamion where it is needed specifically (if not everywhere), and then put it in. [01:19] btw, when is Knot 1 expected :P ? [01:20] yesterday :) [01:20] Riddell: oh i saw the date, but no announcement, thought it was delayed... i'll check again... [01:20] bye [01:21] it's the first once, nobody's even tested if the installer works yet [01:21] I'll be surprised if it's out this week [01:21] Riddell: oh ok, then i guess its better to install dapper and then upgrade it to edgy :) [01:22] yes [01:22] and hope [01:22] lol :D [01:26] Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuMarketing I will be doing a "Chicago Days" within the next couple of months, and I am planning on information handouts inside of each CD pack, as well as demos and what not. I will be creating some Kubuntu specific marketing stuff if you are interested [01:27] i am the team lead for Ubuntu Chicago...so i can do the Kubuntu stuff in there, as I am the Kubuntu guy also on the team..if you need help with that spec..let me know [01:27] i appologize for posting that in here...as after the fact i realized i should have probably emailed you on it..sorry ;) [01:29] I'm better at irc than e-mail [01:29] nixternal: sounds cool [01:29] hehe..cool [01:29] the spec was mostly informational [01:29] i will link you to documentation and what not that i create [01:30] talks to kwwii too, see what he already has [01:30] well..i am working with the Ubuntu Marketing team as well, so I can always get Kubuntu in there so it isn't all one sided as well [01:30] i can do that...kwwii, it is thursday night, boat races at the lake, you know where i will be ;) [01:31] hehe [01:32] actually, the kubuntu team put together text for a flyer already...you might be interested in looking at that [01:32] that i would [01:33] also, I could help with any graphics needed [01:33] oooh..you know you just messed up ;) [01:33] :-) [01:33] i will keep that away from jenda at the marketing team, otherwise you will never hear the end of it [01:34] hehe, jenda was in the artwork channel earlier, asking for help :p [01:34] lol...figures [01:34] #ubuntu-artwork right? [01:34] yepp [01:36] Riddell: the translators are not very friendly, not sure if my wiki idea is still a good plan. [01:37] I am getting especially negative vibes from Jannick Kuhr [01:39] yes, he was very unfriendly [01:39] "Are there any open source projects which ask you to create an account and login to see source codes?" that's an interesting question [01:39] yes, i though about that one as well [01:39] could not think of any to be honest [01:40] totally invalid of course, you can download the language pack source, and launchpad does need a login for a reason [01:40] ah, true [01:50] yannick has mail === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ooh,] === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@123.49.238.139] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:42] morning all [03:49] Hobbsee: morning [03:49] hey freeflying|away [03:50] gah. they updated kid3 again. === Hobbsee puts that on her to-do list === DaSkreech [n=Me@208.138.25.107] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:00] Hi All [04:04] hi DaSkreech [04:04] imbrandon_: ping? === Blv3Watyr [n=guest@nc-76-2-44-56.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Blv3Watyr [n=guest@nc-76-2-44-56.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === DaSkreech [n=Me@208.138.25.107] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:34] Riddell: bad news about kopete. http://librarian.launchpad.net/3396140/buildlog_ubuntu-edgy-i386.kopete_4%3A3.5.3%2Bkopete0.12.0-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz === erov [n=j@c-69-247-101-157.hsd1.ms.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:35] Hi Hobbsee [04:35] imbrandon_: unping [04:35] ha ha :) === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings - Next meeting on July 17 at 13:00 UTC === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Hobbsee at Sun Jul 9 17:45:23 2006 === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-219-193.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@cpe-24-94-53-197.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Dinofly_ [n=dinofly@vbo91-1-82-238-217-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === andre^off [i=bnc@62.75.169.150] has joined #kubuntu-devel === haggai [n=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === crimsun [n=crimsun@dargo.trilug.org] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mornfall [n=mornfall@86.49.125.151] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === #kubuntu-devel [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup === fabo [i=Arme-X@dra38-2-82-233-106-22.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=Me@208.138.25.107] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seaLne [n=seaLne@ubuntu/member/sealne] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sebas [n=sebas@belphegor.deadlysins.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kubuntutaotao [n=kubuntut@61.149.174.149] has joined #kubuntu-devel === je4d [n=jeff@peridot.caffeinated.me.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@123.49.238.139] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:43] Riddell: needed something? [05:44] jdong: bit early for Riddell yet. [05:44] Riddell: it's not even 5am there yet === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@cpe-24-94-53-197.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away [n=nnnsherm@server3.servereyes.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === robotgeek [i=venkat@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cmvo [n=cmvo@62.225.11.174] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee rebuilds kopete. again. [06:04] i think i'll have working msn webcam support too. === nixternal__ [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:13] nixternal: ping? [06:13] hmm..gotta get that fixed..my doorbell is broke [06:13] how can i help you? [06:13] hehe [06:13] hehe [06:14] nixternal: have you modified your keyboard shortcuts at all? [06:14] it blinks, but it doesn't ding-dong like it should [06:14] i think so === Hobbsee watches kopete build in the background, seeing as it was rude enough to FTBFS [06:14] nixternal: ah okay. what's your alt+space assigned to? [06:14] oh ya i have..my volume keys work..awesome!!! [06:14] katapult [06:14] 40MB of ram free - heh. out of 1gb [06:14] that is good stuff [06:14] nixternal: yeah, right, thought it might be. grumble grumble. [06:15] hehe [06:15] you know what...you can't bind just the win key w/o some hacking can you? === Hobbsee remembers that something else used to be assigned to alt+space - no idea if it is or isnt anymore. that should be checked. [06:15] nixternal: lure's going to [06:15] ergood..i can't wait for that [06:15] ergood? [06:16] ok, whatever that means... [06:16] well, i listed the shortcut, and he was addign them all in. [06:16] i miss my winkey [06:16] win key [06:16] yeah, same. it's kinda useful [06:16] you can bind it with another key, but not on it's own [06:16] for me, win+e opens konqi, and win+r is the same as alt+f2 [06:16] excellent, i dont think kopete will ftbfs this time. yet the same package works in dapper. weird. [06:17] you try out vid cam with kopete at all yet? [06:17] nixternal: only trying to view someone else's msn - doesnt work [06:17] someone asked me to get a cam so i can vid conference with them..i can't remember who..maybe my x.. === Hobbsee will test that again [06:17] great..and she uses msn [06:17] nixternal: which protocol? === Hobbsee nods [06:18] she also uses skype === Hobbsee happened to discover the B-D needed for that. === nixternal is also trying to get out of buying a webcam === Hobbsee knows nothing about skype, apart from the fact that Riddell sometimes calls me with it. [06:18] i had a sweet logitech, but i have no clue where it ended up at [06:18] skype is awesome Hobbsee [06:19] free phone calls, and it is chat..but it isn't OSS or Free [06:19] true [06:19] you can get the free as in beer aspect, about ti [06:19] it === Hobbsee prefers logs of things - like mental to do lists - so you can go back and find out what you were supposed to do [06:19] lol === nixternal pets kontact === Hobbsee makes a mental note to go back and get the p/w for buntudot before it goes out of her history [06:19] i use the journal and to-do list for everything [06:19] and i subscribe to everyones iCal's [06:23] imbrandon_: hey, can i run a chroot on here, or something? === Hobbsee always likes more machines to build on === Hobbsee should ask raphink for ssh access again - now that i actually know how to use ssh [06:25] 0_o [06:25] you learned ssh /after/ pbuilder? [06:25] hi crimsun, what's up [06:25] ? [06:25] crimsun: yeah. [06:25] that's impressive. [06:25] crimsun: well, i am in au, so... [06:25] crimsun: i never found pbuilder that hard... [06:26] crimsun: ssh connection to Riddell's machine is very slow - 3-4 sec lag. to imbrandon_'s in the US, it's not so bad - about 1 second lag... [06:27] ah [06:27] so i dont tend to use it that much, unless my pbuilder's borked [06:27] you're using screen, I hope? [06:27] crimsun: er, nope? === Hobbsee was just using ordinary console, logging in and out each time [06:28] Hobbsee: what connection are you on? [06:28] that's a lifesaver over lagged connections === Lathiat only gets around 300ms lag to the US [06:28] it just starts to get noticable [06:29] Lathiat: telstra bigpond cable unlimmited (shaped at 10GB) [06:29] hehe unlimited [06:29] hrm wouldnt have thought thatd be anywhere that bda [06:29] as much as telstra sucks :) [06:29] Lathiat: where are you? [06:29] maybe if you were shaped... [06:29] Hobbsee: perth [06:29] ah right [06:30] Lathiat: do tell if you're ever in sydney sometime - you can meet up with some of us crazy devs mabye [06:30] yeh well i'll probably come to lca next === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-235-188.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:30] you coming? [06:30] no idea [06:30] its worth it :) [06:30] http://www.linux.conf.au/ [06:31] Lathiat: i suspect pia will eat me if i dont :P [06:31] and she knows where my uni is, so that's quite likely. [06:31] haha === RichJ [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@221.221.151.224] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:54] Riddell: kopete got fixed, uploaded, and hopefully even has msn webcam support now :) [07:55] Riddell: http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/kopete/ has the files (except the .orig.tar.gz - due to my patheticly slow upload bandwitdth) [07:55] hmmm...guess you cant use that for the dapper packages. [07:58] xserver-xorg-core??? [07:58] i don't feel safe with that one [08:01] nixternal: in dapper? they wouldnt have killed it [08:01] it just popped up as an update === nixternal is scared === Hobbsee hasnt tried to reboot yet [08:02] you already installed it? [08:02] see, this is with an ATI card..and lord knows what happens with those [08:03] yeah [08:03] hehe [08:03] interesting [08:04] it seems to highlight nixternal, but not me === nixternal tests it on the other machine first === nixternal [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:11] ya it broke it [08:12] oh good [08:12] how? === Hobbsee hasnt rebooted yet === Hobbsee just knows they'd be shot if they broke X in the middle of a stable release [08:21] oh, this will work well on all my macs [08:21] now I am afraid to update :p [08:22] hi kwwii [08:22] hehe [08:22] moin Hobbsee === Hobbsee thinks distastefully about work. [08:23] it is too early for me to think about work yet :-) [08:24] hehe [08:24] @time sydney [08:24] Current time in Australia/Sydney: July 14 2006, 16:24:09 [08:24] @time munich [08:24] hehe [08:25] @time berlin [08:25] Current time in Europe/Berlin: July 14 2006, 08:25:04 [08:25] ah yeah, fun === kwwii is not usually up this early [08:30] hehe === Hobbsee doesnt know that time normally either. [08:30] Tonio_: ping [08:32] freeflying|away: pong ? [08:32] Tonio_: will upgrade ktranslator [08:34] freeflying: your gonna do it ? good :) [08:34] hi Tonio_ [08:35] Tonio_: haven't yet, heh [08:35] get going freeflying - make sure you update your pbuilder first [08:36] if you get hit with the autoconf bug, Riddell has patches to fix it [08:37] Hobbsee: you mean ktranslator? I'm not using pbuilder now, just upgrade my notebook to edgy [08:37] yeah === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chavo [n=chavo@68-235-253-154.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-130-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === uniq [n=frode@ubuntu/member/frode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@194.121.21.240] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === Blv3Watyr [n=guest@nc-76-2-44-56.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Blv3Watyr [n=guest@nc-76-2-44-56.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === \sh_away is now known as \sh === abattoir__ [n=abattoir@59.92.38.12] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:24] <\sh> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ktorrent/+bug/45791 should be fixed in edgy, right? [11:24] Malone bug 45791 in ktorrent "KTorrent doesn't install its Language-Files" [Medium,Unconfirmed] === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:35] \sh: did you do something to change it? === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === goldenear [n=goldenea@vol75-4-82-225-33-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:56] <\sh> Riddell: the translations should be in the kde langpacks from rosetta...so I hope that they are installed by default === jtshaw [n=jtshaw@65.5.3.112] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-234-249.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@194.121.21.240] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-234-249.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === My8os [n=My8os@ppp144-184.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === fre1 [n=fred@73.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-254-073.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:33] imbrandon, poke [01:35] ouch [01:35] ;) [01:35] sup ? [01:36] imbrandon, I found iBook (the lower edition) [01:36] sec [01:36] k [01:36] http://www.kupiprodaj.net/index.php?a=2&b=33881 [01:36] 800Euro [01:37] ahh very nice, looks like a good deal, might wanna add a bit o ram [01:37] but other than that looks good [01:37] Apple uses usual RAM modules? [01:37] yea normal notebook DDR [01:37] you can get it on crucial.com [01:39] imbrandon, interesting ^_^ It's even unused [01:39] wassup with the "+" ? [01:39] with guarantee [01:39] kwwii, ? :) [01:39] kwwii, + ? [01:39] :-) [01:40] + :-) [01:40] heh === Tonio_ [n=tonio@vbo91-1-82-238-217-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:41] imbrandon, mind to tell me what's he talking about ? :) [01:42] imbrandon, otherwise it seems nice, just it's not the same as yours !!! :P === imbrandon hugs his iBook ;) yea that one is nice too and should work greatr [01:43] great* [01:43] brb breakfast time === verwilst doesn't hug his macbook or he'll burn himself [01:43] macbook uses DDR2 i think eh [01:44] yea the older iBooks like that one just use plain DDR though ;) [01:44] and be carefull not to simply buy the cheapest [01:44] pygi: for 300 eur. more you have a new macbook :p [01:44] I have seen macs which refuse certain modules [01:44] verwilst, in which state? :P [01:44] what do you mean? [01:44] i looove minee [01:44] mine [01:45] well, in Croatia simple iBook is 1900Euro [01:45] except that it gets pretty hot, but nothin a cooling pad can solve [01:45] state? [01:45] i'm not an american :p [01:45] verwilst, ok, country :P [01:45] what is the point of bying mac hardware to run linux ? [01:45] pygi: belgium [01:45] fre1, Mac's better :) [01:45] non-apple laptops are ugly [01:46] verwilst, buy me one, I send you money, you send it here :) [01:46] with osx you have to keep paying to get cool things, with foss its free :) [01:46] pygi: you send me the money, i buy one and send it to you [01:46] fre1, becosue ppc's run so smooth and the notbooks "look good" ;) [01:46] hey girls [01:46] i am trustworthy, but it's a big risk ofcourse [01:46] Tonio_: waddup chick [01:46] :p [01:47] ok :) me i go for cheap/fast/reliable but not look :) [01:47] verwilst, or rather, I come to Belgium :P === fre1 imagine a defilee with geek and their ibook :) [01:47] cheap != fast/reliable ;) [01:47] 1100 eur for a macbook 13" isn't too much [01:48] that and my iBook can run on battery for hours when my dell lappy is measured in minutes ;) [01:49] doing the same things with the same os and basicly the same spped proc etc [01:49] s/spped/speed/g [01:49] imbrandon, also found this: http://www.kupiprodaj.net/index.php?a=2&b=32297 [01:49] verwilst, it isn't, but I have to pay for trip to Belgium as well =P [01:49] pygi: i'm willing to send it to you :) [01:50] verwilst, right, right :P [01:50] but i wouldn't do it too if i were in your place [01:51] can't you just order through the apple store online? [01:51] not an ibook only macbook [01:52] that's what we're talking about, macbooks ;) [01:52] verwilst, no me and pygi were talking ibooks ;) [01:52] Riddell, package just finished uploading to revu [01:52] your conversation has been obsoleted ;) [01:52] imbrandon, right, but I was talking with verwilst about macbook :) [01:53] hhe okie, anyhow food time [01:53] bon appetit [01:53] btw moins rob === pygi goes to apple online store [01:53] verwilst, link? :P [01:53] hi imbrandon [01:54] http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?family=MacBook [01:54] mac hardware is nice, but I'd only buy it for my wife (except laptops) [01:54] pygi: what's your tld? [01:55] verwilst, .hr [01:55] http://www.apple.hr/scr/apple/hardware/macbook/macbook.html [01:55] and here a buy now link? [01:55] can't read it :) [01:56] verwilst, lemme look then [01:59] verwilst, o yes, forgot you have to add a lot to the price [01:59] taxes and stuff [02:00] also when it's in the same country? [02:00] here it's 1100 eur, taxes included [02:00] 9.479,00 kn [02:01] http://store.apple.hr/IMC-Apple-Store/WebObjects/Asto.woa/1/wo/0raARJVyEt0bm3X0oIOIEw/2.7.1.6.0.0.1.0.1.0.1.7.1.0.1.1.0.1.1.1.0.1.7.1.3.1 === \sh is now known as \sh_away [02:01] that would be..1361 eur, verwilst [02:02] doesnt this Mac has rechargable battery??? [02:02] I don't even get a power cable? [02:03] yes you do :p [02:03] pygi: of course you do, :P i think those are extra :P [02:03] verwilst, oh, lucky me :P [02:03] the power cable and battery are seperate [02:03] they cost 3500 eur [02:03] hehe [02:04] ergh !!! [02:04] battery is 200eur [02:04] there is a battery included eh :p [02:04] power cable is 100eur [02:04] and a cable too :p [02:04] power cable is 80 eur here [02:04] yes, yes, I know =P [02:08] imbrandon, new iBook is like 25 eur cheaper then the Macbook === kubuntutaotao [n=kubuntut@61.149.174.149] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fre1 [n=fred@73.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-251-142.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:44] hi all [02:44] for some reason, everything everyone says to me, in all channels is proceeded by a + [02:48] hehe [02:48] some script? [02:49] kwwii: like this? [02:50] Riddell: actually, everything everyone says [02:51] and /me looks funny too === kwwii thinks this is funky [02:51] but everything I say, comes out right === kubuntutaotao [n=kubuntut@61.149.174.149] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:51] kwwii: using which irc app? [02:52] it is the gaim lib [02:52] one second, I will try something else [02:53] gaim's dodgy for irc. ditto kopete === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:54] hi Riddell, kwwii === Hobbsee curses the fact that she has to be at work again in less than 10 hours. === Hobbsee left work, having to be back there in just over 10 hours. grr. [02:56] ok, someone say something :p [02:57] hi kwwii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! === Hobbsee throws a few icecubes at kwwii [02:58] something [02:58] damn [02:58] hehe [02:58] +hello kwwii :P === kwwii throws a few icecubes at kwwii [02:58] "+" [02:58] is what I saw [02:58] your getting almost the raw output [02:59] kwwii: using adium? [02:59] your client isn't formatting it properly; [02:59] yeah, looks like it [02:59] it is not the client I think, but my bouncer [03:00] which is a bsd machine sitting in a uni server room 6 hours away and forgotten since a friend left college 6 years ago [03:00] guess I can't call anyone to fix it :p === kwwii [n=kwwii@194.121.21.240] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [03:03] Riddell: did you see my earlier thing, that i uploaded kopete to edgy with some changes? [03:03] Hobbsee: I didn't, how did you manage that? === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p54957307.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:03] Riddell: asked someone to upload it for me :) [03:04] edgy i386 Successfully built groovy [03:04] yay! === Hobbsee didnt check - work got in the way [03:04] Riddell: what about the other architectures? not yet built? [03:04] Added build-dep libglib2.0-dev, evil [03:04] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/kopete/4:3.5.3+kopete0.12.0-0ubuntu3 [03:04] amd64 build, powerpc not yet built [03:05] Riddell: how's that evil? [03:05] well glib, it's like gnome and stuff [03:05] but if that's what it takes, fair enough [03:05] Riddell: well, it's evil anyway, in that it should be used for msn webcam support [03:05] good point :) === omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:07] Riddell: i suspect wi [03:07] Riddell: i suspect we'll end up having libs from all over the place, just to get the protocols supported properly [03:08] seems to be the case [03:08]