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DaSkreechSome days you have it some days you dont12:08
isede!java12:08
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository12:08
ildawhy do i get this error when trying to use kppp ?12:08
ildapppd: The remote system is required to authenticate itself12:08
ildapppd: but I couldn't find any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so.pppd: (None of the available passwords would let it use an IP address.)12:08
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ildaand what should i do about it ?12:09
centyxcry12:09
centyxcry hard12:09
centyxj/k12:09
teknoprepyo12:09
teknoprepi have this apt-get problem12:09
teknoprepi don't want to delete cedega tho12:09
teknoprepbut its telling me to run apt-get -f instal12:09
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teknoprepand when i do.. it tells me its going to get rid of cedega12:09
teknoprep???12:10
centyxkneel in submission12:10
teknoprepnegative12:10
teknoprepcan't i just put that cedega on the ignore list12:10
teknoprepor take it out of the db?12:11
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teknoprepso it doesn't even know its installed12:11
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h3sp4wnapt-get purge cedega (will get rid of cedega for you)12:11
centyxi'm out of here12:11
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teknopreppurge ?12:11
ildano body know how to fix kppp ?12:11
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ZappaHi gues, has anyone got an experience with getting wireless cards with the broadcom chipset to work using the bcm43xx driver?12:12
Zappathis is my card: 0000:07:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)12:12
teknopreph3sp4wn:  ?12:12
Zappa*guys12:12
teknopreph3sp4wn: wtf are you talking about foo12:12
DaSkreech!ppp12:13
ubotuI know nothing about ppp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:13
DaSkreechilda: I sort of remember that error12:14
h3sp4wnh3sp4wn: I don't understand12:14
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DaSkreechilda Google for pppd secret password and see if it helps12:14
h3sp4wnh3sp4wn: What you mean ?12:14
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DaSkreechHi gnomefreak12:18
gnomefreakhi12:19
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kOpterYello :) I've got a question. Is there an OS-X Icon theme for KDE?12:20
kOpterThere's nothing on kde-looks.org..12:20
teknoprepliar12:20
teknoprepyou just didn't look hard enough12:21
teknoprepOMFG12:21
teknoprepwtf12:21
kOpterI'm sorry?12:21
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=== gnomefreak has OSX bundle theme,icons,gdm,everything for gnome but havent seen one pre-compiled for KDE yet
DaSkreech!lang12:21
ubotuI know nothing about lang - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:21
DaSkreech!language12:22
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:22
DaSkreechteknoprep: Please stop abusing people12:22
teknoprepi swear at my kids all the time12:22
teknoprepthey are my family12:22
DaSkreechWe are not.Be queit12:22
teknoprepwow12:22
kOpterGnomefreak > Yeah I saw that.. but no such thing for KDE?12:22
teknoprepyou guys are like the rich ppl that send ppl to war and die12:22
kOpterteknoprep > I feel sorry for them..12:22
DaSkreechkOpter: There are ones. Hold on12:22
gnomefreaknot that i found you would hav eto compile it i think12:22
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teknoprepkOpter yes i am greater then your feelings of your sorrow12:23
kOptergomefreak> That shouldn't be a problem12:23
gnomefreakkOpter: take any OSX theme and compile it than i think thats all there is to it but warning themes dont like to compile12:23
Riddellteknoprep: calm down12:24
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kOpterGnomefreak > I'm running KDE 3.4 .. so I think i'll get some svg issues :)?12:24
gnomefreakRiddell: kde themes are still compile yourself right?12:24
teknoprepRiddell: i am calm12:24
kOpter3.512:24
gnomefreakkOpter: im on 2.5.312:24
gnomefreak3.5.312:24
teknoprepRiddell: i should pic myself and post... i have a great smile on my face12:24
teknoprepRiddell: like i always do12:25
imandirhi I've got a problem with apt-get12:25
gnomefreakimandir: what is it?12:25
imandirit's giving me bunch of errors12:25
gnomefreakimandir: can you paste the errors and the command to pastebin please12:25
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imandirfor exmaple Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)12:26
gnomefreakimandir: please paste the output of sudo apt-get update   on pastebin please so i can see everything12:26
kOpterGnomefreak > Got a name of the theme I should look for?12:27
imandirwhat do you mean by 'pastebin' ?12:27
gnomefreakkOpter: not off hand no but take a look at kde-look.org12:27
gnomefreak!pastebin12:27
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:27
kOptergnomefreak > Kde look has no OS-x themes...12:28
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gnomefreakkOpter: give me a min12:28
kOptergnomefreak> Got this one: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=3161812:28
gnomefreakkOpter: the issue there is kde uses libqt and gnome uses libgtk12:29
kOpterI know :)12:29
drummerHi, I'm running Breezy and cannot get it to see/use a flash drive.  Help please?12:29
kOpterBut I've installed Tango.. shouldn't I be able to just overwrite some of the icons?12:29
gnomefreakkOpter: http://www.kde-look.org/content/search.php12:30
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gnomefreaktheres 5 pages there im sure theres something12:31
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imandirdone12:31
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DaSkreechkOpter: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=224212:31
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kOpterGnomefreak > 5 pages? Just one entry: Tuxitoxh OS X.. which is crappy :)12:31
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gnomefreakkOpter: im showing 5 pages12:31
kOpterSearching for? OS X?12:32
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imandirI mean, I've pasted it on pastebin12:32
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gnomefreakkOpter: in kde-look.org look to the right and type in osx (where it says search)12:32
grizzlyANybody using moues gestuers succesfully?12:32
gnomefreakimandir: can i have the link please12:32
grizzlyurgh , i mean mouse gestures ( khotkeys)12:33
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imandirhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d1796212:33
gnomefreakty brb12:33
kOpterDaSkreech -> That's just the icons, not a theme12:34
kOpterGnomefreak > When I search KDE look ( in the icon-themes section) for OS X, I get one hit.12:35
kOpterGnomefreak > So I assume there is no such thing...12:35
gnomefreakimandir: first off you have alot of non supported repos in your list that is the biggest errors i see so far12:35
gnomefreakkOpter: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3078012:36
gnomefreakhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3079912:36
imandirI know, but some packages are not on 'official' reps12:36
drummerHello?  Can anyone help me with a flash drive?????????12:36
kOpterGnomefreak > Those are KDM themes.. not icon themes :)12:36
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gnomefreakkOpter: ill look in a bit im sure there are icon themes there12:37
kOpterGnomefreak > I'm sure there aren't :)12:37
gnomefreakimandir: first off you are _not_ supposed to keep them enabled12:37
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gnomefreakimandir: second i need you to comment out _all_ the non-official repos so i can tell the difference or just comment them out and paste your sources.list file on pastebin12:38
imandirok, will do12:38
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gnomefreakkOpter: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1131712:39
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kOpterGnomefreak : That's not an Icon theme either :)12:40
kOpterGnomefreak: I appriciate the effort, but I don't think there are any osx icon-themes on KDE-look12:40
gnomefreakhttp://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=22x2712:41
gnomefreakall kinds of icons12:41
kOpterIcon THEME :)12:41
gnomefreakkOpter: look at it i found one without even trying12:41
lindseyhi is there someplace i could go to read about customizing kde except for kde-look?12:41
gnomefreakhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3809812:41
gnomefreakheres 35 icon themes http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=2712:42
kOpterYeah, that's an icon theme... but I want an OSX KDE icon theme12:42
kOpterYeah, but no osx ones..12:42
gnomefreakkOpter: get the themes get the icons and make your own like i do12:42
kOpterThats an option.. but I was hoping someone did it for me :)12:43
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kOpterThanks again for the effort.. I'll just have to do that then..12:44
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imandirgnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d1796312:45
imandirgnomefreak: after commenting rest of reps it's fine12:46
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imandirgnomefreak: but I cann't get kernel-headers for kernel 2.6.15-25-38612:47
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gnomefreakimandir: 2.6.15-26 is current dapper kernel12:47
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imandirwell, i'm trying adept updater now, I've seen new kernel12:48
teknoprepget it12:49
teknoprepits a good kernel12:49
imandirnew kernel on the way ;-)12:49
teknoprepw0ot12:49
teknoprepwhats its number?12:49
gnomefreak2.6.15-2612:50
imandirno, no. I mean that I'm downloading 2.6.15-26 now12:50
Gun_SmokeProblem updating today with kde.. Update worked fine with gnome.. I get the error after I enter my password "converstation with su failed"12:52
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aegeanlinuxnew koffice is out12:53
aegeanlinux1.5.212:53
imandirI'll be back on  2.6.15-26, hopefully :-) ... reboot12:53
aegeanlinuxI am compiling it now. From the changelog it seems like no new fetures, just bug fixes12:54
centyxgar12:54
centyxi forgot to upload the vmware-player-kernel-modules i built12:54
Gun_SmokeAny ideas?  AND, I am not able to adjust the time?!/12:54
centyxGun_Smoke: i had that problem after i first installed. it fixed itself after a reboot12:55
centyxGun_Smoke: the one about updating and su12:55
centyxafk12:55
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DrBair!restricted12:58
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:58
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serenityand write01:03
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bruenigIs there anyway except writing bash scripts into the ~/.kde/Autostart directory to create startup programs, It's not that I mind writing the scripts but It seems like something that probably has a graphical way of doing it01:05
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nnn0forget graphical01:06
nnn0:)01:06
nnn0it's just a fad01:06
nnn0:D01:06
madraykin<3 graphical01:06
madraykinlol01:06
nnn0we'll be back to console in notime01:06
nnn0only now with voice recognition :D01:07
bruenigthe scripts are easy you know, just paths but I figured there is probably a way to do it seeing as there is one in GNOME and it doesn't seem like too hard a think to make graphical01:07
nnn0ehehe01:07
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bruenigjust switched over from GNOME, still a bit lost. So nobody knows how to setup startup programs graphically?01:08
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pedroGood night everyone01:09
pedroI have a dude that I could't solve still01:09
abattoirbruenig: if you have session mgmt. on, apps open in the previous session would be restored...01:09
abattoirare you looking for something like that?01:09
nnn0bruenig, the sooner you learn to use cli, the better :)01:09
brueniglol01:09
madraykinwell, what exactly do you want to start up?  I think you can just drag a menu item into that directory and it will work01:09
pedrowhen I use ifconfig it show me an inet adress that is different to my ip01:09
madraykinbut yeah they stay open if you close kde01:09
madraykinand reopen01:09
bruenigi can use it and do but don't want to missing out on something01:09
madraykinthey come back up ;)01:09
nnn0pedro, it's probably your local IP :)01:10
pedrook01:10
pedroI am a newbie01:10
pedroand I have some confusion about that01:10
madraykinlocal ip is usually 198.*01:11
madraykin:P01:11
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nnn0pedro, if you run a router with a firewall and NAT and stuff, you have one local and one external IP01:11
bruenigwell whatever, i only have two programs i need at startup anyways01:11
pedrobut if I would like to know that ip (the one that start with 192.168what do I have to do?01:11
pedroI have a router01:11
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nnn0eh01:12
nnn0ifconfig01:12
nnn0?01:12
nnn0:)01:12
pedroNo01:13
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pedroI cannot see that information01:13
nnn0you can only see that you mean ? but not the external IP01:13
nnn0which is 83.39.185.13401:13
nnn0that's the IP i see, you see the 192.168.X.X one01:14
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pedrowell, in the space of inet adress I can see another number that is not that one and doesn't start with 192.168...01:14
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madraykinifconfig should say something like  inet addr:192.168.0.201:14
madraykinas mine says01:14
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nnn0it doesn't have to start with 192.168... i could be 10.0.0... for instance01:15
pedromine don't01:15
madraykinyeah01:15
madraykinwhat nnn0 said01:15
madraykinlol01:15
madraykin:P01:15
nnn0hehe01:15
imandirwelcome back on new kernel01:15
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madraykin=] 01:15
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imandirbut still no kernel-headers for 2.6.15-26-38601:15
pedroBut in this moment I have ports open on an ip adress that is not the one I can see on inet addr01:16
pedrothat shows me a very strange number01:16
nnn0how strange ?01:16
pedrocould it be a configuration's problem?01:16
pedrowell01:16
madraykinI guess that's just what kubuntu set the ip to01:17
brueniganytime I open some graphical app from the Command line I get this long ass error and then it works. Is there anyway to stop that damn thing from outputting the error?01:17
madraykinyou can change it manually pedro..if you want01:17
nnn0pedro, do you have both ethernet and wireless maybe ?01:17
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madraykinbut i dont want to mess up your net01:17
pedroin theory don't01:17
pedroI have disabled wireless01:17
nnn0k01:17
pedrowhat's the way to change the ip?01:18
madraykinin control panel > network setitngs you can change your local ip01:18
nnn0just use ifconfig01:18
blake_Hey, is wireless networking fairly intuitive with kubuntu?01:18
madraykinor that01:18
madraykin<--like s gui01:18
madraykinlol01:18
pedroaj01:18
nnn0heh i guess the gui would be easier01:18
pedrobut the question is that, in this moment, it looks like that the real ip and the one that shows ifconfig is not the same01:19
pedroIf I change it, I probable could't know the new ip01:19
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pedrodo I explain correctly?01:19
nnn0not really - give us the IP :)01:19
pedro;)01:20
pedroI am not sure what can you do with that number01:20
pedro;)01:20
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nnn0we will see if it's a local ip or not01:21
teknoprepanyone here use kbfx ?01:21
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mossmanHello all.  Trying to change a cvs file that was exported by a MS app called buisness contacts.  Part of the file seems to be binary,  the rest of the text is seperated by commas though OOOorg opens the file but fails to sperate text into colums,  which makes it difficult to sort.  there are over 10,000 names, address and phone numbers,  I do not really want to tackle this manualy?  Any suggestions?01:22
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DeshDoes anyone know how to get fglrx to work on a Mobility Radeon 9700?01:23
Blissexmossman: depends on how it was generated, there are several types of CSV (not CVS) files.01:23
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imandirok, thanks all of you for help, time to sleep ;-)01:24
mossmanYes. Sorry for the typo.  It was generated by an app I am not familure with.  Similar to outlook,  but a more polished version01:24
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teknoprepDesh keep trying its not easy01:25
teknoprepDesh i had to do that back in the day... took me alot of work01:25
Desh:( Ok.01:25
teknoprepDesh: try easyubuntu01:25
teknoprepDesh: that might simplify things01:25
DeshMaybe my Linux is a Penix.01:25
DeshWhat's that?01:25
teknoprepDesh: did you run fglrxconfig01:25
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DeshYes.01:25
teknoprep!easyubuntu01:25
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.01:25
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teknopreptry that01:25
DeshHmm ok thanks.01:25
teknoprepgoto the site01:25
teknoprepand follow the instructions... it does alot more then just have good video drivers01:26
mossmanDesh: I think ATI drivers you can download only support cards 800 or better01:26
teknoprepnope01:26
teknoprepnot try01:26
teknopreptrue01:26
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mossmanNo wait, Sorry Desh. It is X700 or better01:27
DeshMan, the things people have done with Linux is quite amazing.01:27
mossmaneasyubuntu should help yo there01:27
teknoprepagreed01:27
Deshmossman: All the fglrx FAQs state the 9500+'s are also supported.01:28
teknoprepi find linux is much better then windows now01:28
teknoprepit used to suck for a desktop os back in the day01:28
teknoprepnow it just owns01:28
DeshAnyways, man I have tried everything from the normal setup to trying to make my own driver from the sources01:28
teknoprepas a server its been almost always better01:28
DeshYeah, if only my Premiere Pro ran on here. :(01:29
teknoprep?01:29
DeshI miss being able to edit video.01:29
mossmanUmm,  could be.  I had trouble with an older radeon last year and found out it wasn't supported. It was a x600 model.  They may be supported now01:29
teknopreplol01:29
teknoprepyou sure it doesn't run?01:29
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teknoprepi bet you could get a driver working for it01:30
teknoprepsomeone wrote one somewhere01:30
teknoprephell it might even be in the kernel already too01:30
nnn0Desh, have you tried Cinelerra01:30
mossmanBlissex:  Any idea how to break down this file into a more human readable form?01:30
teknoprep?01:30
blake_Whats the command to restart X?01:30
blake_er, KDE01:31
teknoprepctrl + alt + backspace01:31
blake_ty01:31
Deshnnn0: I did on Breezy, but when I try to install it from adept it says BREAK (install)01:31
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Blissexmossman: OOo whould be able to read it, and save it in a nicer form, depends again on which type of CSV it is.01:31
nnn0k01:31
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Deshnnn0: But it has always been laggy for me, maybe b/c of my crappy video drivers.01:31
teknoprepdude the new dell xps keyboards suck ass01:32
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blake_Hey, could someone help me01:32
teknoprepno01:33
blake_I cant get transparency to work01:33
teknopreplol01:33
blake_it crashes KDE01:33
mossmanYes,  OOO can read it.  It just doesn't want to space the text so,I,get,one,long,line,like,this,per,sentance.I would like to be able to seperate them.  I will keep trying.  There must be a way.  There may even be a nice perl script that can handle it.  Must search a little bit more :)01:33
teknoprepwhat video card do you have?01:33
teknoprepblake_: what video card do you have?01:33
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blake_Radeon 920001:33
teknoprepyeah01:33
teknoprepyou won't get it to work with that peice of shit01:33
mossmanlol01:33
nnn0eheh01:33
DeshOuch.01:33
blake_seems like a 256 meg card should handle linux gfx ..01:33
Desh9200 is not that bad, I have it on a Desktop.01:33
DeshStill runs DOom3 and stuff.01:34
blake_Yes01:34
teknoprepyes its bad01:34
teknoprepits horrid01:34
blake_If it can run Quake 4 I would assume it could run transparency01:34
teknoprepyou aren't going to do transparencies with it01:34
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teknoprepblake_: negative01:34
DeshHeh. Can you do transperencies with a 9700 mobility?01:34
blake_Could you at least tell me what to change it xorg? :(01:34
teknoprepblake_: its not the capacity of the card but the quality of the dirvers that ati writes for your card in linux01:34
mossmanI like my apps parent :P01:34
DeshOh.01:35
teknoprepDesh: i heard they fixed trans for ATI's so yes it should work fine01:35
blake_so I can try, and fail01:35
teknoprepblake_: if you want eye candy get a better computer01:35
easynintendotekno is he trying to run XGL?01:35
Deshblake_: Then you can run Vista on it. :-P01:35
teknoprepblake_: you could try ubuntu-desktop .... run gnome.. and get the gnome trans working... ask the guys in ubuntu about gnome trans01:36
teknoprepeasynintendo: naw kde transparencies01:36
easynintendotekno01:36
easynintendowhere are any transparency settings in KDE?01:36
teknoprepeasynintendo01:36
easynintendoyou mean for menues and stuff?01:36
teknoprepnono01:36
h3sp4wneasynintendo: Do you use zsnes ?01:36
teknoprepright click any window -> Configure Window Behaiviour01:37
teknoprepthen click translucency on the left hand side01:37
easynintendoh3sp4wn i do in windows01:37
Deshlibqt-perl - what is this?01:37
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teknoprepyou have to enable it in the xorg.conf tho01:37
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easynintendooh01:37
easynintendoim not gonna worry about it01:37
easynintendoKDE hogs enough resources as it is01:37
teknoprepSection "Extensions"01:37
teknoprep    Option         "Composite" "Enable"01:37
teknoprepEndSection01:37
Deshwhat is libqt-perl?01:37
teknoprepits a qt perl library01:38
easynintendoim assuming its a qt per library01:38
teknoprephence its name01:38
easynintendothats what i was gonna say01:38
easynintendolol01:38
teknopreplol01:38
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h3sp4wneasynintendo: I was wondering of starting a repository for the laster WIP releases of zsnes (they are alot better than the old version in the repos)01:38
easynintendoyou want to host your own repository?01:38
teknoprepisn't a repo just a web server?01:39
easynintendoyes01:39
teknoprepw0ot01:39
h3sp4wnYes but it has to be setup in a certain way01:39
teknoprepi own you ALL01:39
h3sp4wnYou don't own me01:39
teknoprepnegative01:39
teknoprepi do01:39
teknoprepyou just don't know it yet01:39
easynintendoh3sp4wn just grab the latest zsnes from www.zsnes.com01:39
easynintendono need for a repository lol01:39
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teknoprephe wants to be noticed01:40
teknoprepand if he has a kubuntu repo for zsnes he would be01:40
teknoprepsorta01:40
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teknopreps/things/thinks01:40
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Deshhey teknoprep, what's libqt-perl?01:40
h3sp4wneasynintendo: No zsnes 1.42 is alot different to the WIP 1.43 (especially with sdl support) I thought people who were into zsnes emulation would want a version that works alot better01:41
teknoprepDesh: qt perl library01:41
DeshI told easyubuntu to do a bunch of stuff I already had, ike flash and java, is that bad?01:41
teknoprepDesh: hmmm01:41
blake_This is probably a stupid question, but why don't I have write access to xorg.conf?01:41
h3sp4wneasynintendo: But edgy won't even have the wip build01:41
easynintendoh3sp4wn most people who are into emulators also have a copy of windows01:41
easynintendoand 1.42 is nearly perfect in windows01:41
Deshblake_: sudo kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:42
h3sp4wneasynintendo: at 1280by1024 ?01:42
teknoprepblake_: becuase its for root only01:42
h3sp4wneasynintendo: Will all affects on ?01:42
teknoprepblake_: sudo nano /ext/X11/xorg.conf01:42
teknopreplearn your shell tools01:42
easynintendoh3sp4wn i run at 1600 x 1200 in super2xsai mode01:42
teknoprephell learn vi01:42
teknoprepits awesome01:42
easynintendojust fine, even in the superFX chip games01:42
DeshI know nano, but what's vi?01:42
teknoprepvi > *01:43
teknoprepif you learn it01:43
Desh*?01:43
h3sp4wneasynintendo: You can use the 4hk mode or whatever fine now01:43
teknoprep* = everything01:43
DeshThought so.01:43
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DeshBut what is it?01:43
teknoprepopen konsole noob01:43
h3sp4wneasynintendo: You know the really high processor power one01:43
teknoprepand type01:43
teknoprepvi01:43
teknopreptry man vi01:43
teknoprepDesh: man vi01:43
Deshvi is a screen-oriented text editor computer program written by Bill Joy in 1976 for an early BSD release. The name comes from the shortest unambiguous abbreviation for the command visual in ex. The command in question switches the line editor ex to visual mode.01:43
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bobbydhi01:43
teknopreplol have fun even exiting vi01:44
teknoprephahaha01:44
h3sp4wnDesh: man vmtutor01:44
teknoprep:q01:44
bobbydI'm using azureus in dapper and it's popups hide the system tray and the buttons don't work to cancel it. Is this a known issue, and if so, how do I fix it? :)01:44
DeshWhy is libqt-perl taking forever to set up?01:45
teknoprepazureus is on linux now?01:45
DeshSetting up libqt-perl (3.008-1.4) ...01:45
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teknoprepDesh: i dunno01:45
easynintendoh3sp4n tekno azureus has been on linux for like 4 years01:45
bobbydteknoprep, has been for ages01:45
teknoprepDesh: how slow is your computer01:45
easynintendolol sorry01:45
teknoprepok all01:45
easynintendotekno*01:45
flaccid__az on linux yes01:45
teknoprepi don't use linux as a desktop01:45
MrKeunerHi, I have isntalle kubuntu-desktop while still keeping with ubuntu-desktop. I think I should have screwed something playing with settings in KDE system preferences; when I boot into gnome desktop same font same size is now smaller. I can easily compare them since I have two ubuntu-desktop systems here.(one without kubuntu-desktop) What could be the problem? thanks01:45
Deshteknoprep: AMD 3200+01:45
teknoprepi have been stuck in a nix shell for the last 10 years01:45
bobbydteknoprep, that's helpful :)01:45
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teknoprepfrom tcsh ksh bash and all that crap01:45
teknoprepbsd > linux01:46
teknoprepfor a server01:46
bobbydMrKeuner, did you change to the Nvidia binary driver on one and not the other?01:46
DeshMan = manual?01:46
teknoprepbut wow linux has come a long way for desktops01:46
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dive-oteknoprep: agreed01:47
notamisfittried freebsd for a desktop for a little while01:47
madraykinyeah, it has come A LONG way01:47
teknopreppf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iptables01:47
madraykinI can't wait for kde 4.001:47
dive-oI use BSD on all my servers save the one at work that runs Debian01:47
easynintendofreebsd is a pile of shit01:47
teknoprepopenbsd > *bsd01:48
dive-ofreebsd doesn't support my desktop NEARLY as well as ubuntu01:48
madraykinkde > gnome01:48
madraykinlol01:48
easynintendogentoo is by far the most stable unix platform when built properly01:48
easynintendofor servers01:48
teknoprepdive-o: again... server based moron01:48
dive-oer, no01:48
teknoprepdive-o: why would you put X on a server?01:48
dive-oteknoprep: heh01:48
dive-oteknoprep: I was referring to using BSD on my desktop01:48
teknoprepdive-o: i was not01:48
teknoprepdive-o: so your comment is nil01:49
dive-oif you see above, you'll see that I stated I was talking about BSD on servers and how it wasn't an optimal desktop01:49
eriksonno hdwr drivers in frebsd , or up to date ones at least and it's a real job to install...it should be the difficult if berkley wants to spread the news01:49
dive-obut you're being a typical OpenBSD troll, so nevermind01:49
aegeanlinuxLadies and G's, I g2g01:49
aegeanlinuxToodles Y'all01:49
teknopreperikson: again you don't know what you are talking about01:49
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eriksonshould be less difficult01:50
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teknopreperikson: openbsd ralink 2500 drivers can put a ralink wireless chipset into master mode while the linux one can not01:50
madraykinI tried bsd for the desktop01:50
madraykinit was ok actually01:50
madraykino.O01:50
eriksonteknoprep: I tried it with help , it sucks01:50
sysrpldoes anyone here thing gimp like applications are horrid? you know the ones with mutliple floating windows that can hide behind the windows of other open applications ...01:50
teknopreperikson: that is just one of the many benefits over linux bsd has01:50
gnomefreaksysrpl: please join #kubuntu-offtopic for that01:51
eriksonnot into wireless , so it doesn't matter01:51
DeshDoes BSD make ATI work? :)01:51
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bobbydsysrpl, try gimpshop01:51
teknoprepDesh: gd it... its a server01:51
unix_infidelteknoprep: that's ONE card on the BSD platform...that doesnt make one better than the other.01:51
sysrpli run at 1200x800 and its still a problem01:51
madraykindoes gimpshop actually make the windows..non floaty..01:51
madraykinlol01:51
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teknoprepDesh: bsd is like anti desktop os.. although you can still doit.. its just painfully stupid01:51
madraykin?01:51
dive-oheh01:51
dive-oBSD makes a fine desktop01:51
gnomefreakteknoprep: first off bsd is not a server alone second take it to #kubuntu-offtopic01:51
bobbydmadraykin, it puts them all on the one window, i think :)01:51
madraykinohh i may have to try that01:52
madraykinI'm always loosing my windows and panels01:52
madraykinlol01:52
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gnomefreakbobbyd: nope same as gimp with menus changed around01:52
teknoprepgnomefreak: actually openbsd made ssh... so yes openbsd is a server with the standard instal01:52
teknoprepgnomefreak: any other questions?01:52
Deshteknoprep: I knwo it's server which is why I use Linux, but I was just wondering.01:52
bobbydsysrpl, of course in kde you can have them always on top01:52
dive-oopenbsd did not make ssh01:52
gnomefreakteknoprep: -offtopic01:52
sysrplreally?01:52
teknoprepgnomefreak: i should say openssh01:53
bobbydyou know01:53
sysrplwell i use a tool like glade interface designer, and between the pallet, main window, designer, property window, and widget tree it's WAY too hard to use because windows keep getting lost01:53
bobbydyou're all wrong01:53
MrKeunerbobbyd/ binary driver was already installed when I installed kubuntu-desktop too I did not play with binary settings on anywhere01:53
sysrplespecially when tabing to other windows to copy code01:53
bobbydRiscOS is better than cheese01:53
dive-oteknoprep: I recommend we go to the -offtopic channel01:53
gnomefreaknalioth: ?01:53
mazurskiesysrpl: match point01:53
teknoprepdive-o: mad admins... power hunger... bleh01:53
bobbydMrKeuner, ok, it's just I've seen the font size change sometimes when you use the binary driver as opposed to the free one01:53
sysrplmatch point?01:53
Desheasyubuntu did mot modify my xorg.conf :(01:53
teknoprepno one is asking anything01:53
teknoprepDesh: fglrxconfig01:54
sysrplno, glade interface designer01:54
MrKeunerbobbyd/ I played with gtk application settings in KDE but reversed them already still I have smaller fonts than ususal01:54
bobbydMrKeuner, i just use the "use the same thing for gtk as kde" setting set and it seems to work01:54
naliothgnomefreak: may i help you?01:54
mazurskiesysrpl: winning point01:54
mazurskietennis01:55
teknoprepDesh: you may have to learn how to write your own xorg.conf or download someone elses working xorg.conf01:55
gnomefreakread my message in -op01:55
teknoprepDesh: sing fglrxconfig is a pos01:55
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sysrpli must have missed that point because i didn't get what you are referencing01:55
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gnomefreakty01:55
mazurskietabbing windows01:55
gnomefreaknow please move to kubntu-offtopic01:55
madraykinthank gawd01:55
Deshteknoprep: I have edited xorf.conf before, I basically know how it works, but somehow I need to alter some setting since mesa always takes over oPENgl01:55
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madraykinwtf01:59
madraykinwas that01:59
denis_hey, i just installed kubuntu, question: what do i do to adept manager to get a full listing of files?01:59
teknoprep?01:59
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denis_anyone?02:01
teknoprep?02:01
unix_infideldenis_: ask a more detailed question.02:01
eriksondenis open it , click on fetch updates, then on apply changes02:01
mossmandenis:  adept should already have a full listing of supported repositorys02:01
denis_ok. i thought i was supposed to do something in the manage repositories section02:01
gnomefreakyou can add/remove repos from there iirc02:02
denis_huh? something about the multiverse thing?02:02
madraykinyou can enable those02:02
madraykinyes02:02
gnomefreakdenis_: yes02:03
denis_ok, now enabling those - how do i EXACTLY do it02:03
gnomefreakadept decided it didnt like me so uninstalled itself if i get it back up and running i will show you02:03
denis_asides from hitting enable02:03
eriksondenis_:  and don't forget , http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.htm...this works for a lot of stuff , americans aren't supposed to use but it's pwrfectly legal for us canucks :)02:04
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denis_lol @ erikson. yeah yeah. "canucks"02:05
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madraykinOpen adept ... adept menu > manage repositories02:05
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madraykinfind the ones that say multiverse, right click..enable, click apply02:06
denis_ok.02:06
denis_done.02:06
denis_now what02:06
madraykinthen click 'fetch updates' so it pulls stuff out from those repositories02:06
madraykin:)02:06
SpAwNis it possible to resize a partion.......i made my /home partio to small..and want to take some off of a partion im not even using02:06
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madraykinSpAwn I belive QT Parted can02:07
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madraykinI'd run that from the live cd.02:07
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SpAwNmadraykin, the disk partioner on the live dvd compleatly messed up my partion about 2 days ago02:08
SpAwNi dont trust it at all02:08
notamisfitI've had similar problems w/ the partitioner02:08
madraykinoh02:08
madraykin=x02:08
SpAwNi love everything i had cuz of it02:08
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madraykinI've used it..no trouble02:08
madraykinbut i'd be careful then02:08
madraykinlol02:08
SpAwNhehe i wont use it02:09
SpAwNnot gonna risk it02:09
madraykinyeah02:09
madraykinnot sure what else you can do =x02:09
notamisfiti prefer fdisk myself02:09
SpAwNtheres no other disk utility i can use to do it02:09
SpAwN?02:09
OODyou can try gparted02:09
nixternalqtparted02:10
SpAwNOOD, thats diff then the one on the live dvd?02:10
madraykini think thats based on the same thing though02:10
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madraykinQT parted is just a front end for parted, if i'm correct, lol *not very tech here*02:10
nixternalyup02:10
madraykinapparently that messed up his partitions before, nix02:10
madraykinso he wants to use something else02:10
SpAwNyea02:10
nixternalbut when you "format" from the LiveCD, that is what youa re looking at02:10
nixternaldoh02:11
nixternali didn't scroll up..to lazy ;)02:11
madraykinlol02:11
SpAwNi dont trust the livedvd partioner02:11
nixternalfsdisk02:11
nixternalfdisk rather02:11
nixternalsomething02:11
nixternalim goin' back to bbq ;)02:11
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madraykin:D02:11
SpAwNhmm02:12
SpAwNfdisk looks like i could easyily mess up everything02:12
eriksonyup02:12
notamisfityou can. that's the beauty of it.02:12
madraykinI'm scared of fdisk02:12
madraykinlol02:12
SpAwNim kicking myself in the ass for making the partion to small02:12
nnn0:)02:12
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eriksontry GParted02:12
notamisfitif you think linux fdisk is bad, give the openbsd one a shot02:13
madraykindo you really think qt parted was the cause of the bug though or parted..because if it was parted gparted wont matter02:13
madraykino.O02:13
nnn0i usually use System Restore, it even got Acronis Disc Director on it02:13
nnn0nononnoo02:13
nnn0i mean Hiren's boot cd02:13
SpAwNmadraykin, i stared at the partions for like 10 mins b4 i commited to it....it labled my partions wrong.....said sda8 was sd5 and all mixed and matched02:14
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madraykinhmm02:14
madraykinmight be qtparted then02:14
madraykincould try gparted02:14
madraykinmight wanna backup your stuff02:14
madraykinjust to be safe02:14
SpAwNyea02:15
erikson<--- a firm believer in partioning a disk before installation ...then you have the options during the install and you what's already there02:15
madraykindo you guys think its important to have a /home partition?02:15
madraykinnormally i dont even use one02:15
SpAwNyea i wish i had thought it out better...but forgot how much space games take02:15
h3sp4wnA firmbeliver of always having / /boot and /home02:15
danits not important but its help full02:15
h3sp4wn^^02:15
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madraykinI tend to not do a /home partitions because of games02:16
madraykinlol02:16
madraykinthey take up a lot of space, so i cant be sure02:16
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SpAwNmadraykin, huh what u mean?02:16
madraykinI normally dont make a home partition02:16
madraykinthen i dont have to worry about space02:17
madraykinlol02:17
SpAwNhehe well what happens when a games needs to make a folder in the ~/ folder02:17
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mossmanIt is important to have a home partition,  mostly for the reason if you install a new OS  or need to reinstall it can be kept protected from all system files.02:18
madraykinwell, I mean..I still have the /home folder...it just isnt a seperate partition02:18
SpAwNohhhhhhh got ya02:18
madraykinyes, true moss02:18
mossmanThat is the way I see it,  after much trial and error from Caldrea Open Linux in 1996 to today02:19
mossmanThough SpAwN,  You could always make a seperate partition called /games or whatever you like and store all games there02:20
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mossmanyou could even map that to a seperate Hard Drive.  Which would make sense if you are a big gamer02:21
SpAwNmossman, yea ill just make my /home partion a little bigger........im not sure how to set up the games to store things there02:21
mossmanWhat are the names of the games?  Loki games could be setup in any directory you like for example.02:22
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SpAwNwell i play alot of enemy territory adn games with cedega both of which stored local files and stuff in the users home dir........like in it when u dl a map it stores it in you home dir02:23
SpAwNwell with afolder with the home dir02:23
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mossmantrue.  Cedega likes the ~.cedega/Program Files  etc02:24
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SpAwNyea same with enemy territory... it used ~/.etwolf02:24
mazurskie02:24
madraykinCould you just move the cedega directory entirely, on another partition, and make a link of it in /home/user ?02:24
aegeanlinuxyes02:24
aegeanlinuxyou could just do that02:24
madraykinthat would be a simple fix02:24
madraykin:)02:24
mossmanPerhaps you could simply cp that Transgaming Drive  to a sperate partition and ln -s02:25
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SpAwNwhats about et?02:25
mossmanET  Phone home02:25
madraykinlol02:25
SpAwNlike if i go join a server and it needs to dl a map02:25
mossmanoh,, you mean Enemy Ter...  K..02:25
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madraykinit'll downlooad onto the new partition02:26
madraykinbecause it's linked02:26
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madraykinassuming it goes into .cedega02:26
mossman.ET  holds config files and saved games for the game ET I would suppose.  I bet the game is installed in /usr/local/games somewhere.  Not familure with that game,02:27
madraykinoh02:27
SpAwNso if everything is in .folder now...i move it to the new partion then make a link with ln -s /new/partion/.folder /home/user/.folder02:27
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madraykinyes02:28
mossmanThat should do the trick.02:28
SpAwNhmm let me give it a shot02:28
madraykink :)02:28
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mossmanCan you tell me a little more about enemy Territory?  Is that a native Linux game?  Or does winex handle that one?02:29
aegeanlinuxIt is a native Linux game02:30
aegeanlinuxjust google for it02:30
aegeanlinuxit is free02:30
madraykinbrb..going to install kubuntu02:30
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SpAwNmossman, its such a good game02:30
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madraykindoes it cost anything?02:31
madraykinoh wait..i need to read02:31
madraykinwoops02:31
SpAwNhttp://zerowing.idsoftware.com:6969/02:31
mossmanIs it? But is it a linux game,  or does it run through wine?02:31
madraykinlinux game02:31
SpAwNits made FOR linux02:31
SpAwNits wolfenstien:wenemy territory02:32
SpAwN*enemy02:32
SpAwNits a online 1st person shooter02:32
SpAwNtheres like a good amount of mods...and a whole shitload of maps availible for it02:32
madraykinthink it would run ok on 256mb of ram?02:32
SpAwNwhat kinda cpu02:33
SpAwNit needs direct rendering and opengl02:33
madraykinpentium 4 2.6ghz02:33
mossmanok,  cool.  Ohh It is Wolfenstien.  OK. I have tried escape from Castle W.  Haven't finished it yet though.  Maybe someday.  I still haven't finsihed Castle Wolfenstien the original yet either though02:33
madraykini believe02:33
SpAwNmadraykin, yes02:33
madraykinand nvidia02:33
madraykincool02:33
SpAwNmossman, the enemy territoy is online only02:33
SpAwNmossman, WAY WAY better the a standalone game02:34
SpAwNmadraykin, u should be able to  play it02:34
madraykinSpawn do you play diablo II?02:34
madraykinheh02:34
mossmanOnline only. So like quake3 on steroids?02:34
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SpAwNmossman, its better in in my opinion02:34
SpAwNmadraykin, no i dont02:34
madraykinah02:34
madraykinthought you might02:34
SpAwNmossman, its built off the quake 3 engine though02:34
madraykinruns well in cedega, lol02:35
SpAwNor it uses it......02:35
madraykinanywho..i'll download it..whats your nickname on there?02:35
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madraykinthen i can add you or something02:35
madraykin:P02:35
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SpAwNhehe cedega and kubuntu ran like crap for me02:35
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madraykindid it?02:35
madraykinslow?02:35
madraykinO.o02:35
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mossmanI also had trouble with Cedega and Kubuntu02:35
SpAwNmadraykin, i use the nick FuBaR or [HeLL]  FuBar02:36
madraykinok02:36
madraykincool02:36
SpAwNand usaly play on larger servers02:36
SpAwN.....theres quite a few servers02:36
mossmanThe latest Monkey Island game would refuse to install or play,  though cedega offically supports it02:36
madraykinhuh02:36
SpAwNyea on mandriva it worked WAY better02:36
madraykinodd02:36
madraykindiablo II works fine in kubuntu and cedega for me02:36
SpAwNi was able to play cs:s fullscreen no prob02:37
SpAwNon jubuntu it wont even load on fullscreen02:37
SpAwN*kubuntu02:37
madraykinweird02:37
SpAwNyea02:37
SpAwNi thought so02:37
madraykinmandriva supports cedega really well though02:37
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madraykini had good exeriences with them too02:37
SpAwNi also benchmarked mandriva and kubuntu and mandriva scored alomost a 1000 more points or w/e u might wanna call it02:37
mossmanMandrake used to support a transgaming distribution...I wonder if some of that was merged into their latest distros02:38
madraykinyeah..I remember that02:38
madraykinthey had a gaming distro..or something.02:38
SpAwNwell mandriva is going downhill.....02:38
mossmanThey have been going downhill for years02:38
SpAwNpart of the reason for me switching distros02:38
SpAwNbut hey they made one hell of a desktop linux distro02:39
madraykinit seems like...they don't do much...more.  I don't know, I never see anything knew on mandriva..just seems to stay still02:39
madraykinI like suse because they continue to go forward..but its too slow for my 256mb of ram02:39
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doppelgangeranyone know where the kmenu.png is located that is used on the taskbar?02:39
doppelgangeri've searched, and i see a few, i want to change it02:39
SpAwNmadraykin, i use suse 10.0 on a 700 mhz p3 with 128 ram02:39
SpAwNlol02:39
mossmanI still miss slackware.  I has a slackfan for many years,  though I tried Kubuntu recently as it was recommended by someoner I trust,  I must say, this is as closest to a "binary-only" distro I have tried yet.02:40
madraykinheh02:40
madraykinwhat desktop though?02:40
SpAwNkde lol02:40
SpAwNbut02:40
madraykinreally?02:40
madraykinis it slow for you?02:40
madraykinlol02:40
madraykino.O02:40
madraykinI cant imagine02:40
SpAwNwell i dont realy use it.....it doesnt even have a monitor02:40
dive-oI used to use slackware all the time02:40
SpAwNor keyboard or mouse.....it remote into it02:40
SpAwNand use ssh to control it02:40
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dive-oback in the pre-slack96 says until maybe 199802:40
madraykinI'd use slackware if they finally adopted the 2.6 kernnel02:40
SpAwNi vnc into it and its pretty slow02:41
madraykinslack is fast02:41
mossmanSlackware would still be my choice for a server02:41
dive-oI think it was kernel 1.2.3 when I started using it02:41
mossmanAhh the old 12302:41
SpAwNlol02:41
dive-oI remember 1.2.13 being the stable kernel for ages02:41
madraykinwhy is that...that slackware is so fast compared to some distros?02:41
madraykinkde zooms compared to kde on suse02:41
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madraykini've never understood that02:41
SpAwNmadraykin, each distro does there own   kinda twist on kde02:42
dive-okubuntu is quite fast on this machine, but I haven't tried slackware on it02:42
madraykinyeah, kubuntu is quite fast too02:42
madraykinmuch faster than suse02:42
mossmanSlackware  lacks the bloat.  It will still run on a 486 with no probles.....Just maybe do not try to run kde3 on it :)02:42
dive-othen again this machine is far from underpowered given that I spent way too much money on it02:42
notamisfitI use kubuntu and slack on the same machine02:42
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niroxxmoin02:42
SpAwNwhat u got dive-o02:42
notamisfitother than startup on kubuntu, they both seem to fly02:42
madraykinyeah, the both do very well for my computer02:43
madraykinI like kubuntu because i'm lazy and like GUI tools02:43
mossmanKubuntu is by far the best package orinated system I have used yet02:43
madraykinlol02:43
SpAwNi run a 3.6ghz p4 with 2 gigs ram and a kick ass geforce 7800 GT OC02:43
madraykindamn02:43
niroxxwhere is the german (k)ubuntu channel02:43
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SpAwNid try #kubuntu-de02:43
madraykinmy damn dell computer uses RDRAM02:43
mossmankubuntu-de I think02:43
SpAwNmaby02:43
madraykinno way i'm spending that much for more ram02:43
niroxxthanks02:44
madraykinso expensive02:44
notamisfitget a new mobo02:44
SpAwNi got a dell too02:44
SpAwNlol02:44
chopini thought i killed all adept-related processes but Adept will only start in Read Only mode02:44
chopinany idea what i could be missing?02:44
madraykinnot: i may do that ... very soon02:44
madraykinlol02:44
SpAwNbut it uses umm like ddr2 or somthing02:44
SpAwNi forget02:44
madraykinyeah02:44
dive-oSpAwN: http://www.endersgame.net/~dive/ender.txt02:44
madraykinthat stuff is much cheaper02:44
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madraykinand probably just as good if not better02:44
notamisfiti still use ddr02:44
notamisfitnot going to get an am2 anytime soon02:45
sproingiechopin: quit all apt-related processes then rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock02:45
chopinaye!02:45
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alex_ndchi ... I have a question ... KDE's rendering speed (especially Konqueror) moves like shit. What can I do to improve it ?02:45
notamisfitrun fluxbox?02:46
SpAwNdive-o, the page isnt loading for me..........02:46
mossmanHere is a serious question that I am too lazy to look up.  What exactly is the multiverse repositroy.  Who runs it and are all software packeges gpl?02:47
ranunculoidalex_ndc: I've a link for you, hold on02:47
dive-oSpAwN: hrm, just worked for me02:47
alex_ndcconsidering I have an AMD64 and a Geforce4 ... no, I don't think so02:47
SpAwNdive-o, i think im using up all my bw on torrents02:47
alex_ndcranunculoid: what link ?02:47
ranunculoidAbout KDE's speed02:47
dive-oit's an athlon 64 x2 4200+ (dual core 2.2ghz), 2GB ram, 300GB disk, geforce 7800GT 256MB video02:47
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SpAwNdive-o, nice02:48
alex_ndcranunculoid: I am thinking about some way to accelerate the rendering02:48
ranunculoidYeah, hold on02:48
doppelgangerARGH...  why don't kbfx buttons work with "kmenu"...   it works with xp style and vistabar02:48
doppelgangerdangit02:48
alex_ndcbut I tried installing nvidia-glx, and I haven't seen any effects02:48
doppelgangeri wan't my kmenu..02:48
doppelganger=\02:49
ranunculoidalex_ndc: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Performance%20Tips02:49
dive-oit'll probably have more drives in it once I redo my fileserver's layout, since I just bought two 750GB drives for the fileserver02:49
SpAwNoh yea i forget i gotta go test that symlink i made brb02:49
notamisfitalex: you have the module loaded and all that jazz?02:49
ranunculoidNow for my question: How do I change filetype associations in kubuntu? I usually use kControlCentre but it's not in kubuntu (at least I cant find it)02:49
mossmanDid you insable the new nvidia drivers in xorg.conf?02:49
notamisfitmoss:stole my next one02:49
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alex_ndcnotamistif: yes, and I also tested it with Tux Racer :), but both KDE's and Gnome speed are very poor, and it becomes noticeable when the browser renders web pages02:50
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doppelgangerautomatix installed my nvidia drivers nicely02:50
mossmanYou have to point the driver in the file  /ect/x11/xorg.conf to use nvidia driver.02:50
SmonkeyShouldn't a fresh MySQL install have no root password?02:50
doppelgangerafter my attempt to edit my own and finally got it working...   i used automatix on my second install and it set it all up quick like02:50
mossmanI recommend automatix.  quick and dirty way to install everything fast :)02:51
notamisfithmm. never tried it02:51
doppelgangeri've heard people mumble about it, but it worked very well for me02:51
eriksonyeah mossman, werks for me :)02:51
chopin!paste02:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:52
mossmanhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13840502:52
chopinso guys ...02:52
chopinhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1796502:52
chopinwhat in there is adept-related?02:52
mossmansome info about automatix for you02:52
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CntryboyLooking for something cool to download any ideas02:53
doppelgangerxgl ;P02:53
ranunculoidCan anybody help me with my problem?02:53
mossmanAdept will handle automatix, you must edit the sources list though for adept to find it02:53
mossmanranunculoid, what is your problem again?02:53
ranunculoidHow do I change filetype associations in kubuntu? I usually use kControlCentre but it's not in kubuntu (at least I cant find it)02:54
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mossmanI belive by using Konqueror,  under settings > Config Konqeror,  there is a place to set file associations02:54
notamisfitranculoid: alt-f2, type kcontrol02:55
Cntryboydoppelganger: talking to me about xgl?02:55
mossmanor what notamisfit said..  Same Same02:55
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doppelgangerwas suggesting something fun, if you can get it working02:56
doppelgangerlike i have02:56
Cntryboyxgl what is it02:57
doppelgangerit's a lot of crazy desktop effects you can add02:57
notamisfitgot xgl running a few months ago02:57
Cntryboyhow big to dl?02:57
doppelgangerwhat kind of graphics card do you have? it seems to work best with nvidia02:57
notamisfitnice stuff, and pretty stable02:57
doppelgangerbut not so much with ati02:57
notamisfitmight try it again sometime02:57
doppelgangernotamisfit: agreed  ;)02:57
ranunculoidThanks notamisfit + mossman02:57
notamisfitran: no prob02:58
mossmannp02:58
CntryboyI have nvidia fx 550002:58
Cntryboyhow big is it to dl though?02:58
notamisfitshould do nicely02:58
notamisfiti had it going good on a 520002:58
notamisfitsadly my 6100 on-board sucks02:58
Cntryboywhere is the dl site02:58
notamisfit(new mobo, too cheap to get a pcie card)02:58
Cntryboybrb grr02:59
mossmanWhere would one download xgl?  xorg?02:59
dive-oI should try some games on this thing02:59
dive-ohaven't tried any under linux yet02:59
doppelgangercntry: check it-   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViuJPRZh0oo&mode=related&search=03:00
mossmanKlickety is the most addictive game supplied with kde03:00
doppelgangercntry: but if you have an ati card, you might watch out man03:00
notamisfitthere should be some ubuntu packages out there03:01
doppelgangerheard bad, bad things03:01
doppelganger;P03:01
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notamisfitthere's about eleventy billion howtos on the ubuntu site and forums03:01
doppelgangercheck out the #xgl channel if you're interested, those guys are super helpful03:01
madraykinI tried xgl03:02
madraykinit was cool03:02
nathan_Since your talking about xgl, I was having a problem with getting the compostie to work for compiz.  I think I have xgl working right but I don't really see any difference.03:02
madraykinbut xorg took up so much cpu03:02
madraykinnot worth it03:02
notamisfitnathan: what function?03:02
nathan_It doesn't seem like any of the compiz functions are working03:03
doppelgangerlike what nathan?03:03
madraykinare they enabled?03:03
nathan_Isn't xgl a replacement for the xorg03:03
madraykinI found to get xgl working was a pain03:03
madraykinbut it did finally work03:03
notamisfittook me about 2 hours back in feb or so03:04
nathan_I tried for awhile to get it to work03:04
madraykinit actually worked better and easier on mepis than kubuntu03:04
madraykinnot sure why.03:04
madraykinbut yeah xgl = resource hog03:04
madraykin=[03:04
notamisfitno telling03:04
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notamisfitthe day it's up and going on slack is the day I take notice03:04
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nathan_I think i will stick with ubunutu.  I never tried mepis03:05
doppelgangerxgl isn't that bad on mine, i dunno..03:05
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doppelgangermaybe i'm just lucky.  It's not a bleeding edge machine by any means03:05
madraykinWell, I run a lot too03:06
madraykinand only have 256 mb of ram03:06
madraykin=x03:06
notamisfitthat could explain it03:06
madraykinyep03:06
doppelgangerlol03:06
madraykinxgl wasnt helping03:06
madraykinlol03:06
notamisfiti had about a gig when i tried it out03:06
madraykinyeah03:06
madraykinhow did it perform then?03:06
notamisfitnot bad by any means03:06
madraykinI need more ram ;(03:06
notamisfitunless i was compiling code or something03:07
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doppelgangerdangit...   i wish i could get this kdfx crap working right03:07
doppelgangeranyone have it?03:08
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doppelgangerreally, i just want to change the kmenu button03:08
doppelgangerthats about it03:08
doppelgangeri changed it, but it looks small and terrible03:08
doppelgangerall squenched up03:08
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madraykinkbfx should work fine03:10
madraykinwhats wrong?03:10
madraykinI'm not using it right now, but never had any problem with it03:10
linuxnewbie_Hello. I am trying to enable my users to access thier accounts remotely through VNC but have no idea where to begin. The only thing I can do is allow them to access mine, but that will not work well. Also they use different OS'es. Any ideas?03:11
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nathan_What is a good way to test if xgl is work correctly?03:11
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doppelgangerif you move around a window it should wobble around03:11
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doppelgangeryou'd notice, trust me03:11
nathan_it doesn't do that03:12
doppelgangerhmm..  check what xgl packages you have installed03:12
doppelgangerand then, what compiz ones03:12
madraykinI loved the wobbeling windows03:12
madraykin=(03:12
madraykinlol03:12
notamisfitrun kde-window-decorator and see if it does anything03:13
madraykindoes that work now?03:13
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madraykinI had to use gnome-window-decorator03:13
madraykinwhich i didnt like03:13
doppelgangermadra: so did i, at first03:13
notamisfitnot very easy to customize, is it?03:13
notamisfiti don't know if it works now03:14
doppelgangeri used gset-compiz to customize03:14
notamisfitdidn't a few months ago03:14
doppelgangertalk about features...  whew03:14
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doppelgangeri was almost intimidated by how nit picky it got03:14
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doppelgangerlol03:14
doppelgangeror detailed, as it were03:15
notamisfityeah, tweaking in gconf-editor was a pain03:15
madraykini used gset-compiz03:15
madraykinwasnt too bad03:15
madraykinthey need kde versions of this stuff03:15
madraykin=[03:15
nathan_I have gset-compiz installed03:15
notamisfitsadly, novell03:15
notamisfitsadly, novell's a gnome shop now03:16
madraykinI dont know why they suddenly decided to favor gnome03:16
madraykinit use to be the other way around03:16
notamisfitthey bought ximian03:16
madraykinoh03:16
madraykinthat's right03:16
madraykinthat makes sense, lol03:16
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notamisfitnot to mention that kde really doesn't take much shit from distros03:16
madraykinI can't wait until kde 4.0...03:17
madraykinheh03:17
nathan_I have: xserver-xgl, compiz, compiz-gnome, and gset-compiz installed03:17
nathan_KDE 4.0 is going to be nice03:17
madraykinyess03:17
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doppelgangerlooks like all the required stuff, hmm03:18
notamisfitwonder when we03:18
fiyawerxhow can you tell from the command line how many packages are available total?03:18
madraykinI tried using gnome for liek a week03:18
madraykindidnt like it03:18
notamisfitwonder when we'll start to see kde4 alphas03:18
fiyawerxi know adept shows it on its status line03:18
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doppelgangeryeah, i used it in ubuntu and hated it03:18
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doppelgangernathan, go to the #xgl channel and ask those guys in there, they rule at helping out03:18
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philipp__what package contains win32codecs? such as the ones needed for wma files or any other videos or audio files?03:18
doppelgangerfixed me up quick like03:19
nathan_I think the problem has to do with compist when I start compiz I get an error that it can't locate composite03:19
fiyawerxphilipp__: need to add an extra repository for w32codecs i believe03:19
philipp__ah, recall its name?03:19
nathan_ok thanks doppelganger03:19
fiyawerxCipherfunk multimedia packages03:20
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fiyawerxhmm03:20
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fiyawerx!w32codecs03:20
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:20
philipp__ah ok03:20
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nathan_is it possible to get wmv to work for amd64?03:22
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madraykin!nvidia03:22
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:22
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sdolnacki don't like the thin minimize/maximize/close icons in the top-right corner of the windows in KDE.  How do I change them and make 'em more windows-liek?03:24
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RawSewagewhat do you mean03:25
CheeseBurgerMansdolnack: Control Center > Appearance & Themes > Window Decorations03:25
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sdolnackth03:28
sdolnackx03:28
SpAwNwell the sym link worked for enemy territory...but not for cedega....03:28
sdolnackalso, can i make the red x actually exit programs instead of just closing the window?03:28
coma!kde theme03:28
ubotuI know nothing about kde theme - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:28
notamisfitsdolnack: that's a general kde annoyance03:29
sdolnackhaha yeah.  i was like "wtf"03:30
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sdolnackand i changed it to standard square buttons, but theyr'e still teenier than xp03:31
notamisfiti actually kinda like baghira03:31
CheeseBurgerManThen...use it. :)03:32
notamisfitwonder if its in the archives03:32
notamisfithmm, guess not03:32
CheeseBurgerManYeah, try 'sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira'03:32
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notamisfitthere we go03:32
philipp__whats a sane interval for refreshing the package lists? 1 week?03:33
RawSewagebaghira is a theme?03:33
RawSewageIs Baghira a theme?03:34
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chopin_auxwhere's the lock file again for adept?03:35
dive-oWhere should I go to find libdvdcss for kubuntu on amd64?03:35
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stodgeHi - anyone seen this error when opening Konq on the local file system:        Cannot find parent item file:///home in the tree. Internal error.03:35
dive-othe script that came with libdvdread fails in the configure step, saying that the C compiler cannot create executables03:35
RawSewage!baghira03:36
ubotuI know nothing about baghira - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:36
RawSewage!What_is_Baghira03:36
ubotuI know nothing about What_is_Baghira - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:36
notamisfitdive-o: very strange, got build-essential?03:37
RawSewageIs Baghira a theme?03:37
dive-ono, lemme add that real quick03:37
notamisfitraw: yes03:37
notamisfitit's a mac-osx rip-off03:37
notamisfitbut i like it03:37
dive-oah, I bet that's what I was missing, the libc6 devel files03:37
RawSewageguess I'll try it03:37
notamisfitthat might be it03:37
chopin_auxi can't get adept to start ... unless in read-only mode03:38
RawSewageyou probably have it open somewhere else03:38
chopin_auxthat's what it thinks03:38
RawSewageok, thats a common error then03:38
chopin_aux... and i looked at all the processes and see nothing like that03:38
RawSewageI forgot how to unlock it03:38
RawSewageI did it once03:38
chopin_aux:-/03:38
dive-onotamisfit: that did it, thanks :)03:39
pvegawenasssss mundo como tamos03:39
notamisfitcool03:39
Cntryboydoppelganger: that link u gave me does it have a dl link for this?03:39
RawSewage!info adept locked03:39
Cntryboyjust got back, dang that looks trippy03:39
ubotuadept: package manager for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 3752 kB, installed size 10988 kB03:39
Cntryboyespecially when I mm nm lol03:39
notamisfitdoes anyone else ditch adept for synaptic?03:39
SpAwNi have a usb driver....its plugged in and works great...how can i safly remove it...the icon on the desktop doesnt offer a eject thing03:40
SpAwN*driver=drive03:40
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chopin_aux!info lock adept03:40
ubotuPackage lock does not exist in dapper03:40
RawSewagesudo dpkg --configure -a  maybe?03:40
chopin_aux!info adept lock03:40
notamisfitspawn: i usually just unmount and yank03:40
ubotuadept: package manager for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 3752 kB, installed size 10988 kB03:40
SpAwNnotamisfit, what dou umount....03:40
SpAwNi dont know the device name03:40
RawSewagechopin_aux, try that03:41
chopin_auxRawSewage: dpkg?03:41
RawSewagesudo dpkg --configure -a03:41
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chopin_auxk03:41
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notamisfitlook in /media; should be sd-something03:41
HawkwindSpAwN: Where did it mount ?03:41
SpAwNnotamisfit, k will do thanks03:41
SpAwNi found it now...03:41
SpAwNHawkwind, i wasnt sure.....i just hit the icon on the desktop03:42
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HawkwindSpAwN: Leave the GUI stuff alone :P03:42
Genericso, does the open thing in the firefox download manager not work for everyone?03:42
Genericor is it just me?03:42
chopin_auxwoohoo! RawSewage ... i owe you another ;-)03:42
notamisfitthat stuff'll rot your brains worse than tv03:42
SpAwNhehe03:42
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RawSewagechopin_aux, ok cool03:42
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sdolnackbut yeah, is there any way to have the X in the upper-right corner actually exit the program rather than just close the window?03:43
notamisfityeah, use another desktop03:43
RawSewageWhat program03:43
sdolnackall programs03:43
RawSewageall programs are different03:43
RawSewagemine close03:43
sdolnackrly?03:43
RawSewageso what program03:43
sdolnackmine close but just go to the taskbar03:43
sdolnack:-/03:43
RawSewageeverything?03:43
sdolnackpretty much03:43
sdolnackbut you said it's controlled by the program itself?03:43
RawSewageyeah03:43
sdolnackand not some global setting?03:43
sdolnackyour'e sure?03:44
RawSewageno03:44
RawSewagemight be a global setting somewhere03:44
RawSewageI never had to change anything though03:44
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SpAwNstupid question if i erase a sym link it only erases the link...not the whole thing?03:44
notamisfitspawn: yeah03:45
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SpAwNk thanks03:45
SpAwNbbiab03:46
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intelikeywhat in the crybuntus is this process " 2952 ?        S      0:00 [shpchpd_event] " ?03:47
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Kr4t05I'm having a problem with my fstab, if someone could look at it, I'd appreciate it.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1796703:50
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notamisfitkr4: what problem are you having?03:52
mike_this is a test03:52
notamisfityou failed ;)03:52
mike_cool all is working03:52
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Kr4t05notamisfit, when I try to mount i get this.03:54
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Kr4t05$ sudo mount -a03:55
Kr4t05[mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab03:55
Kr4t05mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc1, missing codepage or other error. In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so03:55
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notamisfitwhat did dmesg|tail say?03:55
Kr4t05Nothing about /dev/hdc103:56
HawkwindWhat exactly are you trying to mount that you get that error on ?03:56
Kr4t05When I try to click the device icon on my desktop, I get03:56
HawkwindAlso, what command are you using to attempt the mounting ?03:56
abattoirKr4t05: you are sure it is ext2 right?03:56
Kr4t05abattoir, yeah03:56
intelikeysudo03:56
Kr4t05Hawkwind, sudo mount -a03:56
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abattoirKr4t05: is it possible that the partition is corrupted?03:57
Kr4t05notamisfit, abattoir, no.03:57
Kr4t05abattoir, I've reformatted it twice.03:57
intelikeymounted ro ?03:57
intelikey   / mounted ro ?03:57
notamisfitthe only time i've gotten anything close to that was when i tried to mount a freebsd slice03:57
abattoirintelikey: rw03:57
eriksonI followed the XGL install instructions , but dunno if it's running , ...did a end current session then restart xserver in the startup menu , but I can't tell if it's on ? :)03:57
Kr4t05Here's the entry in fstab03:58
intelikeyabattoir not in his fstab03:58
notamisfitkr: lsmod|grep ext203:58
intelikeyoh yes it is03:58
Kr4t05/dev/hdc1 /mnt/music ext2 auto,defaults,errors=remount,rw 0 103:58
abattoirintelikey: /dev/hdc1 /mnt/music ext2 auto,defaults,errors=remount,rw 0 103:58
notamisfitit's a long shot, but I'm running out of ideas03:58
intelikeyabattoir yeah i read the -ro as ,ro  mybad03:59
eriksondesktop looks the same03:59
Kr4t05erikson, try to move a window03:59
Kr4t05erikson, did you install compiz?03:59
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Kr4t05abattoir, it works.04:00
Kr4t05abattoir, Thanks.04:00
eriksoncompiz ? wasn't mentioned on the page04:00
abattoirKr4t05: ugh what works, i dont remember saying anything :P04:00
dive-owhere would I go to change the default directory for removable stuff from /media? I use /media on my LAN for different purposes, and the 'sda2' from my ipod is annoying04:00
Kr4t05erikson, XGL is just the graphics layer, you need compiz to get the neat effects.04:00
unix_infideldive-o: what do you mean?04:00
notamisfitdive-o: /etc/fstab?04:01
dive-ounix_infidel: I've got a /media/sda2 directory that got created when I booted up with my ipod plugged in, but I use /media for symlinks to my fileserver NFS mounts (my media archive, basically)04:01
eriksonok , compiz it iz :)04:01
intelikeywell it looks like all "atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid" is superflutious with "defaults" doing the same thing.04:01
dive-onotamisfit: it's not in fstab04:01
unix_infideldive-o: you can create an entry for fstab.04:02
notamisfithmmm. i hate it when the system tries to outthink me04:02
unix_infidelsay you want your ipod to show up as /media/ipod04:02
unix_infidelyou can edit your fstab to do that.04:02
dive-ounix_infidel: aye, I know04:02
dive-oI just want it out of /media, and I don't have a clue what auto-created /media/sdb2 for it; that's what I'm looking to change04:02
unix_infideldive-o: /media/sdb2 is just a mount point.04:03
dive-oI'm aware of that04:03
unix_infidelyou can edit fstab to mount it wherever you want.04:03
dive-oI'm also aware of that04:03
intelikeynotamisfit yes the more automated it gets the less i like it.04:03
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intelikeyanyone know what is this process "[shpchpd_event] " ?04:04
dive-oah. pmount.04:04
sdolnackwhat are the perks of running xgl/compiz?04:04
notamisfitof course, with usb devices, you never know when it'll do a chinese fire drill and move to sde1 vice sda104:04
sdolnacklike practically speaking04:04
dive-onotamisfit: that's why I want the default to be something other than /media/<foo> :)04:04
notamisfithmm, i'm a bit out of my element here04:05
intelikeynotamisfit wild cards  ;/04:05
dive-ook, looks like hal is calling pmount04:05
ryanakcahow do you make the font smaller on tty1? on ctrl-alt-f1...04:06
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unix_infidelah, i get what you're talking about know...you want to be able to determine whatever the NODE is and THEN mount it to whatever.04:06
intelikeyryanakca frame buffering04:06
ryanakcaintelikey: ???04:06
dive-ounix_infidel: not precisely; I just want things that are detected by hal/etc to get tossed somewhere other than /media04:06
intelikeyryanakca something like vga=791 in the kernel string of the boot loader04:07
sdolnackanyone--xgl/compiz benefits?04:07
notamisfitsdolnack: eye candy. that's about it04:07
stodgeAny ideas what packages I need to install to use Jackd's ALSA driver with Rosegarden?04:07
intelikeyryanakca changing the frame buffer is the only way i know of to change the lines/coloumns in the console.04:08
unix_infideldive-o: udev just creates the node, mount manages where you mount it04:08
dive-ounix_infidel: pmount, in this case, which is called by hal according to the manpage04:08
ryanakcaintelikey: lost me... :)... so in the grub config file... kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-686 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash vga=791       ?04:08
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doppelgangeri know this has probably been asked before, but how do you change the font color of the kicker?04:08
unix_infideldive-o: the ipod registers as /dev/sdb2 according to the system NOT /media/sdb204:08
dive-o-rw------- 1 root root 0 2006-07-13 02:05 /media/sdb2/.created_by_pmount04:09
unix_infidelits not /media/sdb2 unless its mounted by a mounting program.04:09
intelikeyyep    and you need to set it to what you and your hardware like ryanakca04:09
dive-ounix_infidel: I am quite aware of that04:09
dive-oI understand how device mounting works04:09
dive-othat is not the issue04:09
unix_infidel:P04:09
dive-oI am trying to figure out WTF to go to configure hal/pmount to put such things elsewhere04:09
intelikey791 was an example   vga=788   is pretty common.04:09
dive-oand all I'm getting is "oh, edit your fstab" which means sod all when it's automated crap04:09
dive-oheh04:09
JohnFluxRiddell: ping04:10
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sdolnackwhat's the xgl/compiz irc channel?04:10
unix_infideldive-o: i always thought the mount is automated b/c of the auto flag in fstab.04:10
dive-ounix_infidel: it's never mounted, and that's not the issue04:11
fiyawerxsdolnack: #xgl04:11
sdolnackfiyawerx: thx04:11
dive-othe issue is that if it's plugged in, pmount/etc will go create /media/sdb204:11
unix_infidelthat's odd, i've never seen that before hald or udev creating a node in /media.04:11
denis_guys is there a "windows media player" codec type of download that i can get that would let me play windows media files? (asx, asf?)04:11
actinicis Adept the only program which handles Kubuntu update notification & downloads in one?04:12
sdolnackactinic: no04:12
sdolnackyou can use Synaptic as well04:12
eriksonmy ATI card driver won't work with compiz ...oh well glad I saw the warning ! :)04:12
sdolnackwhich is more organized and cleaner (arguably better)04:12
intelikeydive-o one work around would be mv /media /<something.else>   so there is no /media on your system.04:12
sdolnackactinic: and you can also use teh apt-get command as well04:12
actinicyes, but synaptic doesn't have an 'auto-notify' feature, does it?04:13
sdolnackactinic: i'm not sure.  I haven't looked into it.04:13
notamisfitdive-o: checking pmount man page, /media doesn't seem to be open to discussion04:13
dive-onotamisfit: yeah, I got that impression as well. I was hoping someone here had an idea.04:13
intelikeyupdate notifier ?04:13
sdolnacki really like adept's but it's frustrating when it constantly tries to install the latest kernel build (and keeps the old ones)04:13
dive-omoving what I keep in /media is possible, but I'd really prefer to just move the pmount default04:13
actinicyes, in the task bar of kubuntu I have an update notification icon04:14
actinicnext to the volume icon04:14
eriksonCompiz, DOES NOT WORK WITH THE 8.26.13 FGLRX DRIVERS!..which are ATI04:14
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sdolnackwait--since when?04:14
actinicdoesn't everyone?04:14
luc45what program can i use to extract a rar file? it doesnt work with ark04:14
sdolnacki'm pretty sure compiz works w/ fglrx04:14
eriksonhttp://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=689&p=104:15
sdolnackluc45: you need the unrar package i think04:15
KeltagTry 8.26.18 then?04:15
sdolnackRequirements04:16
sdolnackkdm, kdebase-bin, compiz(-vanilla)-gnome, xserver-xgl and a accelerated graphic driver (Nvidia, latest fglrx (8.25.13) or something else that works)04:16
intelikeydive-o i only meant change the mount point /media and rm the dir     but you knew that.04:16
sdolnackoh wait--did you mean the newest driver?  i thought they stopped updating fglrx04:16
luc45sdolnack: i have unrar installed. still not working04:16
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eriksonwell I don't wanna take chance04:17
notamisfitluc: if unrar x filename doesn't work, the rar's probably fucked04:17
KeltagHell, if I can get an ATI to run SecondLife then there's no reason it shouldn't be able to run Compiz04:18
ranunculoidWhat folder do I put Win32 codecs in in kubuntu so that Kaffine can use them?04:19
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luc45notamisfit: my rar has a lot of rars inside.04:19
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notamisfitso unrar them04:20
luc45notamisfit: its working now with the x option04:20
sdolnacki wonder how initng is coming along04:20
notamisfiti thought it would04:20
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eriksonmy ATI is an elcheapo onboard xpress 200 so I shouldn't expect  too much fancy graphics gymnastics with it :)04:20
abattoirranunculoid: /usr/lib/win3204:20
[Relic] is there a way to log process starts over a period of time?04:20
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KeltagAh04:20
dive-ointelikey: aye, didn't mean to be a jerk about it, was just hoping there was an easy way to reconfig it to point to, say, /othermedia, /foo, whatever04:20
luc45notamisfit: they are a lot... part01.rar part02.rar .... part47.rar04:21
dive-oI can tolerate it for the time being as I need to redo my fileserver anyway04:21
notamisfitunrar x *.rar04:21
satafterhanyone know anything about setting hd to ultra dma 5? is it safe?04:21
luc45notamisfit alright04:21
marcosMarcos04:21
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intelikeydive-o there may indeed be one.   i however don't use hald and have no idea what that way might be.   sorry i couldn't give an answer you liked.04:22
actinicabattoir, i see no /usr/lib/win32 directory04:23
abattoiractinic: make one :)04:24
abattoiractinic: sudo mkdir /usr/lib/win3204:24
actiniclol, then put the codecs there?04:24
abattoiractinic: yes04:24
DaSkreechAnyone know how to fix file system errors?04:24
intelikeyDaSkreech mounted ?04:25
actinicDaSkreech, i reformat.  No file errors thereafter.04:25
actinic:)04:25
actinicj/k04:25
abattoirDaSkreech: fsck ?04:25
DaSkreechThat's my problem04:25
DaSkreechI formatted and then started getting superblock errors04:25
DaSkreechabattoir: Finds no errors04:25
abattoirDaSkreech: what filesystem?04:25
intelikeyDaSkreech is it mounted some place ?04:26
DaSkreechreiserfs04:26
DaSkreechintelikey:  /04:26
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intelikeymount -o reomunt,ro / && fsck.reiserfs -f /dev/<devicenode> && reboot04:27
abattoirDaSkreech: http://www.namesys.com/bad-block-handling.html might be relevant ?04:27
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sdolnackis it work updating my kernel from 2.6.15 to 2.6.17?04:28
luc45notamisfit got it. just needed to type: "unrar x part01.rar". it automatically extracted the divided file.04:28
intelikeyone could test for badblocks also.  but if a reformat caused it, it's most likely reiserfserror04:28
notamisfitcool that04:29
DaSkreechOk thanks04:29
driz!COC04:29
ubotuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/04:29
DaSkreechI should probably mention that when the boot fails if I press Ctrl+D it boots normally04:29
luc45notamisfit: shit. i get "CRC Check failed"04:30
[Relic] is there an alphabetical list of programs somewhere?  I want to figure out what keeps trying to run04:30
notamisfitprobably a buggered file then04:30
abattoirDaSkreech: oh, you are dropped into a rescue shell?04:30
luc45notamisfit: i dont think so04:30
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intelikey[Relic]  dpkg -l | less04:30
luc45notamisfit: i have a .sfv file with the correct crc for the iso.04:30
chopin_auxanother adept problem: installs of gimp and thunderbird are failing ... "problem downloading some programs or the commit would break packages." ???04:31
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abattoirchopin_aux: could you try w/ 'apt-get' ?04:32
DaSkreechabattoir: Yes04:32
notamisfithmm, i've got no idea then04:32
chopin_auxperhaps ... can i just say apt-get install gimp04:32
DaSkreechIt does a check of filesystems and fails04:32
chopin_auxor do i have to write out the whole package?04:32
intelikeychopin_aux as root04:32
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DaSkreechI think that it may be one of my FAT32 drives but I'm very puzzled as to why it would start doing this on a reinstall04:32
abattoirDaSkreech: oh, ok, you are lucky it is a secondary fs(right?), my root, gets corrupted, when i shut down improperly w/ reiserfs :(04:33
luc45notamisfit: dunno. i think im running winrar in wine...04:33
chopin_auxw04:33
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intelikeychopin_aux as for the exact name do  apt-cache search gimp     and it will show you what apt-get myst have.04:33
DaSkreechabattoir: I reinstalled and got that on first reboot04:33
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chopin_auxah.04:33
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chopin_auxthx04:33
DaSkreechabattoir: That hardly seems like in appropriate shutdown to me04:33
intelikeyfor gimp it is gimp04:34
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abattoirDaSkreech: on your root partition? or a secondary one?04:34
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abattoir!info gimp04:34
ubotugimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 2712 kB, installed size 7648 kB04:34
chopin_auxheh04:34
chopin_auxthx04:34
erovnew wine :)) yay04:34
DaSkreechabattoir: ermmm I would guess my root04:34
DaSkreechNone of the others have changed04:34
abattoirDaSkreech: why dont you try xfs, its a bit more 'stable' for me04:34
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intelikeygimp-helpbrowser - Built-in Help Browser plugin for The GIMP04:34
DaSkreechin fact they are plugged off04:35
DaSkreechabattoir: Stupid no grub error :-P04:35
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abattoirDaSkreech: i heard grub and xfs can be made to live together... i myself have a weird setup though :P04:35
sdolnackanyone? worth upgrading kernel from 2.6.15 to 2.6.17?04:35
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notamisfittried 2.6.17 on slack. gave me nothing but trouble04:36
notamisfitdoesn't seem to play nice with the nvidia drivers04:36
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(abattoir/#kubuntu) hmm, there we go again04:40
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(samuli/#kubuntu) and it's getting pretty annoying too.04:40
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(Snake/#kubuntu) intelikey: this is one hell of a netsplit.04:40
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intelikeymajor servers desynced04:40
sproingielet's hear it for irc's topology04:40
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Snakelol sproingie04:40
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christopherHello, I installed kubuntu 6.06 yesterday and everything worked great. However, today it takes a long time for webpages to download with a domain name but if I use an IP address the page loads almost immediatly. This also happened a few months ago with a beta of ubuntu on a different computer. Does anybody know what is wrong and how to fix it?04:41
sproingieobject lesson in why tree topologies suck for reliability04:41
intelikeylilo will prolly inform us as to what the cause was.04:41
joel_lol04:41
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Smygison the subjekt of nvidia. I cant get the property drivers to work.04:41
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notamisfitsmygis: what have you installed?04:41
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Smygisnotamisfit:  Who knows ;) nvidia-glx nvidia.kernel-common i think it whas04:43
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sberlottool !04:43
notamisfithave you edited xorg.conf? change 'vesa' to 'nvidia' and all that?04:43
sberlottoestou procurando um bom screencast ..04:43
Cntryboygrr04:43
Smygisnotamisfit: yes.04:43
qbitchristopher: might be this - network.dns.disableIPv6   <= set this to true if the browser is Firefox04:44
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Smygisthe xserver dies at startup04:44
notamisfitwhat kernel version are you running? got linux-restricted-modules for it?04:44
abattoir!br04:44
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.04:44
Cntryboyanyone know how to start xgl?04:44
sberlottook ! tks.04:44
abattoirsberlotto: ^^^^^04:44
aegeanlinuxCntryboy:  By saying please?04:44
samuliCntryboy, try #ubuntu-xgl04:44
notamisfiti think 2.6.15-23 is the latest w/modules04:44
Cntryboyby saying please?04:44
aegeanlinuxCntryboy: It's worth a try04:45
samuli"please xgl, pimp my linux"04:45
aegeanlinuxCntryboy: [Ku/u] buntu does everything else by magick ;)04:45
Smygis2.6.15-26-38604:45
qbitchristopher: if it's Konqueror try putting KDE_NO_IPV6="true" in /etc/environment04:45
Cntryboydudes im stoned04:45
Cntryboyya'll can't toy with me04:45
Cntryboylol04:45
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christopherqbit: it is firefox04:45
Cntryboyaegeanlinux: i'm lost04:46
Cntryboygo to term and say please?04:46
aegeanlinuxCntryboy: Jokes04:46
joel_what is the shortcut key to switch desktops?04:46
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samuliCntryboy, #ubuntu-xgl04:46
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aegeanlinuxjoel_: ctrl+alt+F7 F8 F9 etc04:46
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notamisfitsmygis: might want to revert to 2.6.15-23 and install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-2304:46
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Smygisapt-cache search linux-restricted-modules04:47
christopherqbit: it does not seem to be happening in konqueror04:47
Smygislinux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386 - Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules on 38604:47
[Relic] no luck yet  :(      what is the console command to see what is currently running04:47
DaSkreechabattoir: ok Quick question if you have only one hard drive connected to the computer will a non connected hard drive still throw an filesystem check error?04:47
DaSkreech[Relic] : top04:47
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notamisfitok, you've got it for your kernel. got it installed?04:47
joel_oo tnc04:48
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qbitchristopher: then go to the about:config page in Firefox and double click the entry I gave you to change it to "true"04:48
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Smygisnotamisfit:  no i did not have it04:49
Smygis:D04:49
notamisfityou need it. it's got the actual binary module04:49
Smygisok04:49
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Smygistime to change "nv" to nvidia and see if it works04:50
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notamisfitfire it up04:50
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notamisfitmake sure to modprobe first04:50
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Smygis:S  ?? Im not god at this you know04:51
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notamisfitsudo modprobe nvidia04:51
Smygisk04:51
Smygisnice04:52
sberlottoi'm find for a good screencast program04:52
abattoirDaSkreech: well, if it is not connected, there will be no checks, hence no 'superblock' errors... that's my guess :)04:52
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nathan_It seems like xgl problems are a big topic in this channel.  It used to be wireless card questions.04:52
DaSkreechRight which is why I suspect it's my / drive04:52
abattoirDaSkreech: the error message would include the partition wouldnt it?04:53
abattoiri mean, the name of the partition04:53
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intelikey[shpchpd_event]  ???04:53
DaSkreechIt complains about a slew of things but it's the superblock pointing at the wrong inode (I think that's the error) that halts the boot04:54
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Smygisok seeya04:54
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intelikeyDaSkreech you can use an alternate superblock04:55
christopherqbit: Thanks, that really helps but it is still not as fast as it was and it is not my internet connection. Any other ideas the what might also be causing it?04:55
abattoirDaSkreech: hmmm.... even reiserfsck doesnt do anything?04:55
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DaSkreechok it tells me to run reiserfsck --rebuild-tree04:55
abattoirDaSkreech: (or is that the defaul check app?)04:55
DaSkreechWhen I run that it warns me not to run it :(04:55
intelikeythere are backup copies about every 16384 blocks or so.... depends on the size of the fs04:55
DaSkreechGuess I'll need to figure out how to get that info04:56
qbitchristopher: not really, but if it's fast with an ip number and slow with urls it points to some kind of dns proble,04:56
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intelikeytunee2fs /device04:57
christopherqbit: ok thanks04:57
intelikeyerr one e04:57
intelikeytune2fs /device04:57
DaSkreechOk thanks04:57
DaSkreechI was wondering :)04:57
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intelikeydevice might be /dev/hda104:57
abattoirintelikey: or is it reiserfstune?04:58
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DaSkreechI'd be willing to bet one points to the other04:58
qbitchristopher: the only thing I can think of is take a look at /etc/reslov.conf and see if it points to your ISP's dns servers04:58
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qbiterr make that /etc/resolv.conf   :-)   can't type worth a ....04:59
abattoirDaSkreech: i think tune2fs is for ext2(e2fsck), and reiserfstune is for reiserfs... that's just my guess though, could well be the same tool...04:59
intelikeyabattoir yeah i guess so being reiserfs  :)05:00
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qbitchristopher: I usually change my /etc/nsswitch.conf to this: hosts:          dns files mdns   <= but that's because I run a local caching dns server on my gateway05:01
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intelikeyDaSkreech actually they are both compiled executables      do you pay when you bet ?05:04
abattoirintelikey: lol05:04
DaSkreechSure what were the terms agreed before the check05:05
christopherqbit: thanks for your help, now it seems to be back as fast as it was05:05
intelikeyalthough on a busybox system they would both be symlinks to /bin/busybox    :)05:05
qbitchristopher: that;s good   :-)05:05
intelikeyDaSkreech idk but you can just owe me  :)05:06
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intelikeyso what is [shpchpd_event]     anyone know ?05:06
abattoirintelikey: they seem to be different executables here... ;)05:06
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intelikeygoogle had a few referances to it but no discription that i found.05:07
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intelikeyabattoir that's what i said.05:07
abattoirintelikey: oh, ok, my mistake :)05:08
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DaSkreechOk Who's rules are we using?05:08
DaSkreechYanks or Brits?05:08
abattoirhehe...05:09
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abattoirAussie Rules ;)05:09
intelikeywell the "different" was implied, rather than said but we meant the same in our statements.05:09
intelikeyDaSkreech being *ubuntu  prolly africaanies05:09
abattoirintelikey: as i said, my mistake, didnt read properly, and assumed... :)05:09
DaSkreechHa ha ;) I need to get the big book of gambling05:10
actiniclooking for suggestions on a good newsgroup downloader client ... ya know, binaries :)05:10
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DaSkreechThunderbird?05:11
intelikeywget url05:11
actinicfor binaries that also handle par files?05:11
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dive-ois there a working flash plugin for linux/amd64?05:12
notamisfitdon't think so05:13
dive-ohmm05:13
intelikeyi thought if 'wget' couldn't get it, it couldn't be gotten....05:13
luc45i installed azureus with adept but it seems it doesn't work.05:13
abattoirdive-o: konqueror?05:13
dive-othe 32bit version won't work with 64bit konq, I imagine?05:13
dive-oabattoir: yea05:13
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abattoirdive-o: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-188198.html05:13
actinichmm, 'KLibido is a KDE program to download encoded articles from the usenet news05:13
actinicservice'05:13
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actinicmaybe i'll try that05:14
luc45anyone knows how to get azureus working?05:14
abattoirdive-o: i havent tried it personally though ;)05:14
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flaccid__just wondering if someone can help me set up printer05:15
flaccid__usb printer.05:15
dive-oI can live without flash, I'd like to keep as much as possible deb-managed for now05:15
flaccid__trying to work out which usb port it would be05:15
flaccid__do i use dmesg?05:15
dive-ountil I get used to ubuntu enough that I can hack around with bits of it05:15
notamisfitflaccid: lsusb05:15
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notamisfitcups should pick it up tho05:16
flaccid__ah forgot about that command, thanks05:16
sdolnackanyone know kismet/aircrack?05:17
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dive-oactinic: I personally love cg for usenet binary grabbing. it's a console app that takes a newsgroup as an argument and then opens an editor with a list of everything in that group, you delete what you don't want, it grabs the rest, putting the files back together from multiple posts and such05:17
flaccidok so i selected usb device 3 as per lusb, no luck. what should i do now05:18
notamisfitwhat's the make and model?05:19
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flaccidsamsung ml-161005:19
flaccidits worked through cups before05:19
actinicdive, cg?05:21
notamisfithmm, do any of the usb devices have any extra info in the cups web interface?05:21
flaccidit is the only usb device plugged in05:22
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flaccidah it could be working 1 sec05:23
sdolnackanyone use aircrack/kismet/ethereal?05:23
flaccidcool its working05:24
notamisfitcool. what happened?05:24
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flaccidi think i was pressing ok before i should of on the test print05:27
notamisfitthat might do it05:27
flaccidbut i can't delete the old printer?05:27
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notamisfitwhy the hell not>05:27
flaccidits greyed out, silly05:28
flaccidits a remote printer05:28
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flaccidi guess thats why05:29
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flaccidok fixed05:32
MehAdultWhat do I use to play .wmv files05:32
MehAdult!wmv05:32
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:32
MehAdultNevermind05:32
MehAdultlol05:32
flaccidif i have to boxes on kde, 1 with the printer, 1 is a client, when adding a printer on the client, what is the best protocol to use05:33
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DaSkreechMehAdult: try !w32codecs05:35
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DrBairmy dapper system is completely jacked... cups removed itself somehow, none of the init scripts tab complete anymore, and several init scripts plain old don't work. Any ideas?05:36
notamisfitmake a blood sacrifice and pray05:37
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DrBairpackages seem to be disappearing...05:38
luc45i can't get azureus to work... help!05:39
luc45http://pastebin.ca/8766905:39
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scabootsscaok i need help installing the ati drivers05:41
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Hobbsee!ati05:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto05:42
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sdolnackanyone use initng?05:44
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DrBairsdolnack: have used it before on gentoo... that was almost a year ago05:48
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DrBairVERY fast I must say05:48
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DrBairand has a couple of nice features, like daemon monitoring05:48
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doppelganger_what do you guys suggest for a cd burner?05:50
doppelganger_that actually burns mp3s..05:50
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nixternalk3b05:50
nixternaldon't burn an audio cd with mp3's but burn a data cd when doing mp3's05:51
doppelganger_kb3 says unsupported format when adding mp3's05:51
doppelganger_ahh, i see05:51
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doppelganger_thanks nix05:52
macd..05:52
nixternalnp problemo ;)05:52
posthuman!nvidia05:52
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto05:52
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doppelganger_but this_will_ burn them so i can listen to em in my car, right?05:53
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nixternalif it is data yes, as it will be a disk full of mp3's05:53
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nixternalwhen you burn an "audio" cd, it converts the mp3's to they can be played everywhere05:54
JRH3K5Pardon me, but I'm trying to configure apache to allow something to be only viewed by localhost, computers on the network, and deny all other users05:54
doppelganger_i don't have an mp3 player capable reciever... so...  you're meaning it'll work with just plain jane players, correct?05:54
nixternalthen you want to burn an "audio" cd doppelganger_05:54
JRH3K5I tried Deny from all/Allow from 127.0.0.1/Allow from 192.168.1.0/24, but that last line for 192.168.1.0 breaks it :/05:54
doppelganger_but... it won't allow me to add mp3's ;\05:54
doppelganger_i'm used to nero in windows05:54
nixternalJRH3K5: you can try #apache as they will offer better support on your issue05:54
JRH3K5Thank you05:54
nixternalno problemo05:54
doppelganger_need something that i can add mp3's to to make an audio cd for my car05:55
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nixternali used nero forever, but k3b has been my baby05:55
nixternalwhen you add mp3's k3b gives you an error then?05:55
doppelganger_yeah, says unsupported format05:56
nixternalhmmm05:56
nixternalsounds like a lame issue05:56
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doppelganger_should i apt-get a newer version?\05:56
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notamisfitsudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3?05:56
nixternalif there was a new version you would know05:56
doppelganger_ok, i'll try that05:56
nixternalnotamisfit: thank you05:57
nixternalgreat05:57
notamisfitnp05:57
nixternalglitches smitches05:57
aegeanlinuxdoppelganger_: You there man?05:57
doppelganger_yessir ;)05:57
aegeanlinuxdoppelganger_: So am I :D05:57
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doppelganger_so aegean....  whats a good audio burner for kubuntu?05:58
doppelganger_or kde, whatevs05:58
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aegeanlinuxdoppelganger_: Sorry about me being offline, me and Dad just upgraded the www.aegeanlinux.be server to have 2 GB ram05:58
aegeanlinuxk3b05:58
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aegeanlinuxthats the best one05:58
doppelganger_when i try to add an mp3 into my list while trying to do an "audio cd", it says it's of an unsupported format05:58
doppelganger_but... it's mp3 for sure.... amarok plays the shit05:59
aegeanlinuxIt's cause you dont use Aegean ;) I can do it05:59
doppelganger_oh piss off, haha05:59
aegeanlinuxjoke doppelganger_05:59
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notamisfitdid you install the k3b mp3 lib?05:59
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doppelganger_hrm... lemme check adept  ;P06:00
aegeanlinuxyou need a library for k3b that you need to manully install ???06:00
aegeanlinuxWhat cr*ps that?06:00
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doppelganger_package manager, yo06:00
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aegeanlinuxits called "pacman -Syu k3b" and it just "WORKS"06:00
notamisfitit's one of those fucking patent things06:00
aegeanlinuxI don't believe in patents06:01
doppelganger_ok, got the mp3 part through adept, lemme try it06:01
doppelganger_thanks whoever said that, brb06:01
notamisfitunfortunately, they believe in us06:01
aegeanlinux:D06:01
doppelganger_theeeeere we go06:02
aegeanlinuxso it works now?06:02
doppelganger_notamisfit: thanks bro  ;)06:02
notamisfitnp06:02
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doppelganger_jassah =)06:02
doppelganger_er yassah06:02
notamisfitit never hurts to help ;)06:02
doppelganger_afk for a min  ;)06:03
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modified-designCan someone tell me, or direct to info, how to design and create flash (like with macromedia fx) on linux?06:08
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aegeanlinuxyou can use Macromedia Flash 5 With Crossover Office06:09
aegeanlinuxthere is an open source authoring software06:09
modified-designyea, I've been looking into that, broke right now though06:09
aegeanlinuxbut I forgot what it was called06:09
modified-designI was hoping there might be a free way06:09
aegeanlinuxIt might work with Wine06:10
modified-designI guess theres not much demand for it on linux, it's one of the few things not out already06:10
modified-designI can't get wine to work on Dapper06:10
aegeanlinuxThe golden rule is if it don't work ./configure & make it ;)06:10
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modified-designwhere do I go to configure wine? I can install it, but nothing happens when I try to run it06:11
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aegeanlinuxYou have to goto the wine site, which happens to just be www.winehq.org06:12
aegeanlinuxdownload the source code06:12
aegeanlinuxopen up a konsole06:12
LynoureFirefox again failed to get saved with the session. Annoying. Anyone else noticed that happening occasionally?06:12
aegeanlinuxcd to the location06:12
aegeanlinuxtar -xvf {wine-file}06:12
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ChefWillcan someone tell me what the alt+spacebar menu is?06:12
aegeanlinux./configure --prefix=/usr06:13
aegeanlinuxwait about 3 minutes06:13
HobbseeChefWill: katapult?06:13
aegeanlinuxtype make06:13
ChefWillhrmm06:13
aegeanlinuxand then sudo make install06:13
ChefWilli just now realized it accidentally06:13
aegeanlinuxand then wine will definitly work06:13
modified-designI'll give that a shot, thanx.06:13
aegeanlinuxIf you need any help, i am right here06:13
modified-designthanx, I appreciate it06:13
aegeanlinuxand once you can make the source file, you are officially a linux nerd ;)06:13
modified-designwhats sad is I've been using linue for 4 years now, lol, and I'm still not good. I'm just a basic computer user who got fed up with windows06:14
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ChefWillhow/what do you configure Katapult?06:14
aegeanlinuxChefWill: Is that a question06:14
ChefWillends in a question mark doesnt it? :)06:15
aegeanlinuxmodified-design: It's all good, everyone learns at there own pace06:15
aegeanlinuxChefWill: Sozzy, get the source code type ./configure --help06:15
aegeanlinuxthat should help abit ;)06:15
Lynoure ah, clever06:15
LynoureChefWill: just start typing what you want to open or access06:15
ChefWilltheres no way to configure it w/o source06:15
aegeanlinuxthen get the source06:16
ChefWiller06:16
ChefWilltheres no way to configure it w/o source?06:16
LynoureChefWill: did you notice my comment?06:16
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ChefWillno frontend gui?06:16
ChefWillyea i know that Lynoure but how do you add apps/etc to it?06:16
LynoureChefWill: see what happens, it's rather nice06:16
LynoureChefWill: Is it missing something?06:17
DrBairwhich wifi is the better route... atheros or intel?06:17
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LynoureChefWill: for me it even finds my firefox tabs, and all from the k-manu ad  I've done no adding06:18
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ChefWillLynoure: it just shows up when you press alt=sapce06:20
LynoureChefWill: Yes. start typing anything, program, tabname, etc06:21
ChefWillif i hit alt+space it shows katapult logo then if i hit space it shows Ark and Run program06:21
LynoureChefWill: If you want it _not_ to show, when you press alt+space, that's    apt-get remove katapult06:21
LynoureChefWill: Seems to be working fine, then06:22
ChefWillno i do, i jsut want to figure out how t configure it to be useful06:22
LynoureChefWill: What do you want it to do?06:22
ChefWilldunno :P06:22
ChefWillim trying to read up on what it can do06:22
LynoureChefWill: It really sounds like it is already doing what it was design to do.06:23
ChefWillit doesnt read my bookmarks unless im doing it wrong06:24
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LynoureChefWill: when on Katapult, ctrl+c  lets you configure it.06:26
ChefWillyea i did06:26
Lynourehmm, finds my bookmarks fine. I'm not sure whether it works with konqueror bookmarks, I don't have any06:29
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ChefWilli dont use konq06:29
LynoureChefWill: So it cannot find your firefox bookmarks? Even after 3 letters?06:30
ChefWillnot that i see06:30
ChefWilli can just type a folder name?06:31
ChefWillhrm i think i got it06:31
LynoureI don't know about bookmark folders... but exact bokmarks it finds for me06:31
ChefWillfixed it06:32
ChefWillsomeone said there are "widgets" that can run in katapult like on mac os x06:32
ChefWilli.e. a calculator/calender/etc06:32
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LynoureI don't know about that, but there is superkaramba06:35
Lynourehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperKaramba06:36
LynoureI doon't use it myself, though06:36
JohnFluxkatapult is cool06:36
JohnFluxi added irc support to it06:37
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JohnFlux;)06:37
JohnFluxin konversation, right click on a name, then chose to add to addressbook.  then in katapult you can type in the name.  it will bring up a chat with them :)06:37
JohnFluxsame with kopete06:38
RawSewagehow do I download links of images and things06:41
RawSewagewhen I click it, it opens the default app06:41
RawSewagewhen clicking in Konversation, for example06:42
RawSewagewhat if the URL isnt on a webpage06:42
RawSewageoh nm06:42
RawSewagewget06:42
sproingie how do you actually run katapult06:42
sproingiei ran it from the commandline, got a splash screen, and it exited06:42
RawSewagealt+Space06:42
RawSewagethen start typing06:42
sproingienada pasa06:42
RawSewagehuh06:42
sproingieif it helps, i installed kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu.  maybe it's not configured?06:42
RawSewagetry alt+f206:43
sproingienothing06:43
RawSewagekatapult06:43
sproingiei have run on meta-r06:43
RawSewagetry alt+f206:43
RawSewagekatapult06:43
sproingieok, i got a pretty black splash rectangle, and now nothing06:43
RawSewagenow... alt+f206:44
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RawSewageI mean06:44
RawSewagealt+SPAcebAR06:44
sproingieoh i see, it's supposed to run from the hotkey06:44
RawSewageyeah06:44
RawSewagethen start typing06:44
sproingiei'll have to set up that hotkey myself, i ran kpersonalizer and it must have reset them all06:44
RawSewageyou can use it as a calculatr too06:44
RawSewageoh06:44
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ColonelKernelabattoir: you here?06:44
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sproingiehm, so it's like a search thing.  except it doesn't seem to find executables06:45
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ColonelKernelDoes anyone know how to get TeamSpeak working on Kubuntu?  It cancels out my Linux sound evidently06:45
sproingiehm, it works for some progs, not others06:45
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sproingienot digikam for example.  does it run off the slocate db or something?06:45
ColonelKernelcrimsun: you gone too?06:46
RawSewagei dont know06:46
sproingietruthfully i miss the double-ctrl of GDS.  i find myself launching stuff from it now06:46
RawSewageyou can probably configure KDE to do that06:47
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HobbseeColonelKernel: yeah, you cant seem to have both going at the same time, or you have to load an extra module06:47
sproingiedetecting a double-tap of ctrl?06:48
sproingiei doubt it06:48
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sproingieran updatedb, katapult still doesn't find all apps06:48
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Hobbseesproingie: killall katapult && katapult06:50
RawSewageyeah, I'd bet anything KDE can detect a doublt tap of CTRL06:50
RawSewagetheres all kinds of keyboard options06:50
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renatoramirooii06:51
sproingiei've never seen anything except maybe input methods that detects taps of modifier keys06:51
RawSewagerun kcontrol06:52
ColonelKernelHobbsee: what do you mean load another module06:52
RawSewageREgional Accessibility06:52
RawSewagetheres all kinds of keyboard things06:52
sproingiei know about it.  and nowhere does it support taps of modifier keys06:53
ColonelKernelHobbsee: as in sudo apt-get install something?  That sounds pretty easy06:53
Hobbseethe command is sudo modprobe something -v, but i dont remember what it is.  much easier just to disable kde sound system.06:53
ColonelKernelHobbsee: will I still have sound if I do that?06:53
unix_infidelColonelKernel: yes.06:53
sproingieok, did killall katapult and ran katapult again06:53
unix_infidelof course.06:53
sproingienow it says to use alt-space, but that doesn't actually work06:53
sproingieit pops up the window menu every time06:53
ColonelKernelunix_infidel: so how do I disable the KDE sound system?06:54
unix_infidelColonelKernel: sudo kcontrol06:54
sproingieand it still doesn't find digikam06:54
unix_infidelthere should be a gui you can mess with.06:54
ColonelKernelunix_infidel so I disable KDE and enable something else?06:54
unix_infideli dont use gui so i cant guide you sorry.06:54
unix_infidelColonelKernel: no, you can use kde without the artsd sound system.06:54
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ColonelKernelunix_infidel aha.  then do I leave TeamSpeak on the setting that worked for It or the one that worked for the rest of linux06:55
Hobbseesproingie: make the window menu be loaded by another key06:55
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sproingieHobbsee: ok, and now katapult doesn't intercept it either06:56
sproingieah restarted it, there it goes06:56
Hobbseesproingie: yep, nice06:57
sproingieit still ain't finding digikam06:57
sproingieor anything else i installed recently06:57
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sproingieanyway if katapult can search a catalog like beagle, then i'm sold06:59
sproingieas it is the program catalog doesn't seem to want to update06:59
Zaireanyone in here know how to config wine so that it runs using NT 4 compat06:59
aegeanlinuxyeah07:00
aegeanlinuxclick K --> run07:00
aegeanlinuxtype winecfg07:00
aegeanlinuxand change the windows version ;)07:00
RawSewagesproingie, maybe restart X07:01
Zairecool thx I just got a DVD burner and couldn't figure out why the software wasnt working07:01
sproingieRawSewage: not inclined to do that whenever i install something07:02
Zairek nero works but I can't get DVD shrink to load and a friend said its a good program07:03
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aegeanlinuxcan't help you in that department07:03
aegeanlinuxsorry man07:04
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scabootsscaok i installed the ati drivers and everything broke07:04
RawSewageZaire, did you try k3b07:05
scabootsscait wont even turn on anymore07:05
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intelikeywould someone with a fresh install please check the permissions on /root for me ?07:05
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vakaI have a big problem... My root account hasn't root permisions, and I can't give them to it because i haven't these same permisions07:05
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Zairek3b didn't workout I was trying to make a backup of one of my fav DVD and k3b failed to write07:06
vakaWAAARG07:06
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scabootsscait has the blue loading bar and it loads normal and then after everything is done loading the screen flashes and gets stuck at the blue bar07:06
aegeanlinuxwww.kde-app.org07:06
aegeanlinuxwww.kde-apps.org07:06
scabootsscai really need help07:06
aegeanlinuxthere is a dvd backup program there07:06
aegeanlinuxdon't know the name off the top of my head07:06
intelikey /root should be 000 should it not ?07:07
scabootsscaanyone?07:07
intelikeyso why the hell did the installer make it 755 ?   that's a security hole.07:08
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Zaireroot is disabled by default in kubuntu intelkey07:09
intelikeyZaire please use you head here.07:09
vakahow can i enable root??07:09
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poseidonvaka: Do you have sudo???07:09
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vakano....07:10
Zairesudo passwd root and it will let you give root a pass thus activating it07:10
vakai can't do sudo07:10
intelikeyanyone else checked that permissions on /root ?07:10
Zaireintelkey I just stated a fact so if you don't like it tough07:10
scabootsscais there a way to uninstall programs from ubuntu with a live cd?07:11
scabootssca8kununtu07:11
intelikeyvaka  you will have to reboot to rescue mode    single user mode.07:11
vakaok07:11
vakaty bye07:11
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scabootsscahow about me?07:12
intelikeyscabootssca your issue is ?07:12
intelikeyi did just get here.07:12
scabootsscai broke my computer when i tried to install the ati drivers and it wont turn on07:12
scabootsscalike wont boot07:12
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scabootsscaget's stuck at the blue loading bar after everything goes buy07:13
intelikeyboot to single user mode and undo what you did.07:13
scabootsscahow?07:13
intelikeyremove the ati driver ?07:13
scabootsscaboot to single user mode07:14
intelikeyctrl+alt+del  and when it first posts. hit  esc07:14
scabootsscaso hold thatr when it's booting?07:15
intelikeyselect the line that says rescue and hit enter07:15
intelikeyno not when it's booting.   before.07:15
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Zaireor when its hitting the boot loader hit escape and select recovery mode07:15
scabootsscabefore that it's grub07:16
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intelikeyyep07:16
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sproingieisn't there any way of pointing digikam at a generic usb mass storage device and not a particular camera make07:16
scabootsscain grub highlight it and press esc?07:16
intelikeyas soon as grub flashes to the screen    [esc] 07:16
scabootsscaand puse recovery07:16
sproingiei'll be damned if the nikon coolpix actually ever works.  and i don't want to use the cable anyway07:16
scabootsscaok07:16
scabootsscai'll try that thanks07:16
sproingieif i don't pick a camera, it renames it to the first camera in the list07:17
sproingieseriously it's a piece of junk now.  it used to work07:18
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intelikeysproingie if yours is a recent install of kubuntu, could i ask a favour of you ?07:19
intelikeynot an upgrade07:19
sproingieintelikey: it's an install of kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu07:19
intelikey/exec ls -l /        and paste me the line with /root in it please07:20
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aegeanlinuxdrwxr-x---   31 root root   4096 2006-07-13 01:05 root07:21
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intelikeyk07:21
intelikeyty07:21
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intelikeyubuntu team has been breaking permissions on /root     it should be   d---------07:22
Lynoureintelikey: I'd call that a bit excessive, even root cannot read it then without fiddling with permissions.07:23
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intelikeythey also have kdm writing to /root rather than /var07:23
intelikeyLynoure then you would speek in ignorance07:23
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Lynoureintelikey: Sleepiness, rather :)07:23
intelikeyroot doesn't care about permission07:23
flakemy synaptic software manager is saying there is an install for wine but it can't be authenticated, then it lists a bunch of upgrades for stuff like office and other modules07:24
sproingiekdm writing to /root?07:24
flakei already have wine07:24
sproingieseriously that is whack07:24
intelikeysproingie yup07:24
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sproingiebah i can't drag and drop into digikam either07:25
flakei see there's a wine v9.17 out, i have v9.1607:25
sproingieguess i'll stick with f-spot.  or more likely picasa on windows07:26
sproingiepicasa on linux, that was a disaster07:26
flakeis it safe to install it, although it says it can't be authenticated?07:26
aegeanlinuxthen compile it yourself. Goto www.winehq.org and ./configure07:26
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flakei need a compiler to do that?07:27
aegeanlinuxyes07:28
aegeanlinuxgcc07:28
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flakei've been meaning to put it on here anyway07:28
notamisfitbuild-essential should handle it all07:28
flakeapt-get install gcc ?07:28
notamisfitapt-get install build-essential07:28
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aegeanlinux^^ :D07:28
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aegeanlinux./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --enable-opengl --with-x07:29
Cntryboysudo apt-get dist-upgrade does this upgrade the distro?07:29
aegeanlinuxthat is how you want to compile wine07:29
flaccid_what is the latest kernel for dapper?07:29
aegeanlinuxCntryboy: it updates all the packages, so yes07:29
Cntryboyis it the same as sudo apt-get upgrade07:30
CntryboyI mean update07:30
notamisfitCntryboy:no07:30
Cntryboyso its like upgrades07:30
flakethanks, will give it a whirl07:30
aegeanlinuxI think so. I am not an apt-get kinda guy.07:30
flaccid_apt is better than rpm07:30
flaccid_i mean yum07:30
CntryboyI have dialup, trying to get xgl working, but it the site says to dist-upgrade07:30
notamisfitupdate syncs, upgrade puts you in line with your current version, and dist-upgrade moves you on to the next07:30
aegeanlinuxpacman better than anything07:30
notamisfitpkgtool makes all of them its bitch07:31
aegeanlinuxpacman rocks!07:31
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aegeanlinuxpkgtool doesn't do deps does it?07:31
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notamisfitfuck no; that just leads to problems07:32
Cntryboywhat is mesa packages?07:32
Cntryboyand how big is it to upgrade mine07:32
Zairelanguage07:32
Cntryboyzaire: talking to me?07:32
Zaireno was talking to notamisfit07:32
aegeanlinuxpacman does deps, never had an issue with it07:32
notamisfitZaire: my bad. most of my vocab is four letters long07:33
Cntryboywhat is the kubuntu xgl channel please07:33
aegeanlinux#ubuntu-xgl i think07:33
Cntryboykk07:33
Cntryboythx07:33
Zairethis is the only real help for DVD srink but it doesn't seem to want to work07:34
Zairehttp://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/07:34
flakeit doesn't understand ./configure07:34
Cntryboyanyone have xgl installed?07:35
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Cntryboyzzzzzzz07:38
Zairehttp://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/ this help doesnt want to work for me07:39
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Cntryboyanyone here?07:41
Cntryboygrrr07:41
CaptainMorganmaybe07:41
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flakehey i have to register07:42
flakeugh07:42
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aegeanlinuxKool Kool07:42
flakeno i don't know all of my basic kommands07:42
flakei found some doc on the wine website on building it07:42
aegeanlinuxcd ?07:42
flakeyes07:42
flakecd / mkdir / rmdir/ rm/ etc07:43
flakesudo07:43
flakeapt-get07:43
flakeand format c:  j/k07:43
Zairevi07:43
aegeanlinuxgood, cd into the directory where you save the file07:43
Zairels07:43
Zairell07:43
Zairels -l07:43
aegeanlinuxZaire: Quiet!07:43
flakei'm not familiar with the file structure07:43
Zairemake me lol07:43
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flakeusr/bin or usr/local/wine ?  have to find it07:43
Zairemv07:43
aegeanlinuxpls wait ...07:44
Zairepasswd lol07:44
aegeanlinuxZAIRE: QUIET!07:44
Zairelol07:44
aegeanlinuxok type::07:44
aegeanlinuxor copy & paste07:44
aegeanlinuxwget http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/wine/wine-0.9.17.tar.bz207:44
aegeanlinuxonce thats done type:07:45
aegeanlinuxtar -zvf wine-0.9.17.tar.bz207:45
aegeanlinuxthen07:45
aegeanlinux./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --enable-opengl --with-x07:45
Zaireyou don't need to use wget for wint apt works fine07:45
aegeanlinuxmake07:45
Zairewine*07:45
aegeanlinuxwe want the latest wine07:45
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aegeanlinux.1707:45
Zaireit is07:45
aegeanlinuxis it?07:45
aegeanlinuxthought apt's was .1607:46
Zaireit updates regular07:46
aegeanlinuxkk07:46
flake./configure - no such file or directory07:46
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aegeanlinuxnm bout it07:46
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Zaireyou just prob need to apt-get update thats all07:46
aegeanlinuxjust sudo apt-get wine07:46
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aegeanlinuxand sudo apt-get update07:46
flakei take it not all components of gcc are on my system?07:47
aegeanlinuxprobebly not07:47
flaccidshould you reboot after a dist-upgrade?07:47
aegeanlinuxthis is not windows07:47
Zaireumm agrees prob not lol07:47
aegeanlinuxaka no07:47
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aegeanlinux;)07:47
flacciddoesn't it update the kernel if a new one is available?07:47
Zairebah winblows lol07:47
flakegreat answer aegean07:47
aegeanlinuxyes07:47
aegeanlinuxonly kernel updates need reboot07:48
flaccidso how do i boot the kernel without rebooting?07:48
aegeanlinuxjust don't warry about it07:48
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flaccidok so i do reboot07:48
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Zaireumm you don't07:48
aegeanlinuxyeah07:48
Zaireyea reboots lol07:48
aegeanlinuxyou need to reboot after a kernel update07:48
flaccidexactly07:48
aegeanlinuxotherwise you still run old kernel , but thats like the only time07:48
ZaireI like use for that sudo init 6 lol07:49
aegeanlinuxthat doesn't load the new kernel though Zaire07:49
Zairenope it restarts07:49
aegeanlinuxsmart arse.07:49
Zaireinit 0 is shutdown and init 1 is single user mode07:49
aegeanlinuxI dont care!07:49
flaccidcool07:49
Zaire5 is gui07:50
flaccidhes just sharing his config07:50
scabootsscahow do i mount a li9nux partition from liver cd?07:50
scabootsscalive07:50
Zairewell just my knowledge really lol07:50
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RichJnalioth, /aq script and what not, where can i grab that bad mamma jamma?07:51
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flakeok, i followed the directions on the wine site07:52
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flakesays upgrading office 2.0.2 to 2.0.2 - don't it know there's a 2.0.3 out?07:53
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aegeanlinuxKubuntu doesn't always have the latest software07:53
notamisfitflake: they've got to test it first07:53
Zairehence the apt update though07:54
flakeoh07:54
Zairewell I gtg work tomorrow07:54
aegeanlinuxopen office is only 2.0.2 in the repos though07:54
flaccidscabootssca: just the same as mounting usually07:54
scabootsscai got it07:55
scabootsscai couldnt remember the flags07:55
scabootsscahow do i uninstall programs from a mounted linux drive07:55
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notamisfitscabootssca: you'll probably have to chroot for that07:56
scabootssca?07:56
scabootsscachroot? a package07:56
aegeanlinuxis it another ubunutu/kubuntu drive07:56
notamisfitscabootssca: chroot /mnt/ubuntu /bin/bash07:56
aegeanlinuxif so07:56
aegeanlinuxjust ^^07:56
Kwukkihow can i install Bon Echo beta 1?07:56
notamisfitscabootssca: and then use apt or aptitude07:56
luc45im being asked in a installation to write the directory where the symbolic links will be created... what are symbolic links?07:56
notamisfitKwukki: download it; at least that's what I did07:57
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scabootsscaanybody know what the ati drivers are called?08:00
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luc45!ati08:03
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:03
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luc45posthuman ?08:05
posthumanhi.08:05
luc45hi08:05
luc45what's up?08:06
posthumanbored08:06
posthumanlol08:06
posthumanyou?08:06
luc45same here08:06
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posthumanahh yeah i gotta download that08:07
posthumanthat will help cure boredom08:07
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TheHighChildluc45: You try out the No Quarter mod yet?08:09
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fiyawerxi played that for like an hour trying to figure out this 'trick jumping' thing08:09
fiyawerxthen gave up08:10
TheHighChildfiyawerx: It's not trick jumping. It's double jump, press the space bar twice.08:10
fiyawerxno no, you can jump farther by doing wierd things08:10
fiyawerxlike hitting strafe buttons and moving your mouse in a circle while jumping08:10
fiyawerxits like voodoo08:10
TheHighChildlol, strafe jumping?08:11
fiyawerxi guess, i couldn't do it08:11
TheHighChildIt takes a lot of practice and coordination08:11
fiyawerxlike you hold shift, hit forward, jump, hit strafe, turn diagnol08:11
fiyawerxsome of the trick jump servers were neat tho08:11
fiyawerxlike you have to get to the checkpoints and stuff and they're really hard to08:11
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fiyawerxwell, really hard for someone who can't strafe jump08:13
TheHighChildall strafe jumping is pressing the run key and jumping while moving the crosshair left and right. When you get it down, you can barrel across a map08:13
TheHighChildbut there isn't too much of that in No Quarter08:13
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aegeanlinuxkk08:16
Kwukki /home/pieter/Desktop/Bon Echo/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory08:16
Kwukkiwhat can i o now?08:17
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ErtainHello anyone.  I can't seem to start my screensaver.  I'm sure everything is installed (The Kscreensaver stuff, as well as the Xscreensaver stuff.)  I've also taken to starting the Xscreensaver daemon.  But that's just for xscreensaver.  Any ideas?08:18
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posthumankwukk...I'd just install firefox with apt-get08:20
posthumanapt-get install firefox .. should work, I think08:20
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Kwukkiyes, it is bon echo beta108:21
Kwukkiapt-get is version 1.508:21
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posthumanthat may install the missing librarie file?  JUst a guess.  I downloaded the beta and untared it..worked right off08:21
posthumanbut i also have firefox installed08:21
posthumannot sure though08:21
Kwukkii have 1.5 installed :-s08:21
posthumanhmm08:21
Kwukkino idea?08:22
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posthumannot off hand =\.  You could search for that file, see if you have it.  Is it in the firefox directory?08:23
posthumanseems odd that it wouldnt be there08:23
posthumancould do a locate libmozjs.so08:24
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posthumansee if its somewhere..and if its in a weird area, link it to /usr/lib08:24
posthumanprobably not the best way of doing it, but would fix the problem08:25
posthumanif it is there somewhere08:25
Kwukkilibmozjs is in the firefox dir :-s08:26
TheHighChildKwukki: You'd need to execute the 'firefox' not 'firefox-bin'08:26
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posthumanah yes, that too08:26
posthumanif you were doing firefox-bin08:26
posthumanlol08:26
posthuman:)08:26
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Kwukkiif i execute firefox, notthing happens08:27
notamisfitgotta love bon echo. two years just to produce an opera clone08:27
pyrooohello08:27
TheHighChildKwukki: DO you still have the tarball?08:27
pyroooplease help me, how can i toggle languages in kubuntu? shift+alt doesn't work08:27
Kwukkiyep08:27
posthumantry opening it via console?08:27
posthuman./firefox08:27
Kwukkii'll wait for the final08:27
ErtainI just read that the screensaver problem has been fixed in Edgy, but I don't want to upgrade to Edgy, since it could break my system.  Any ideas?08:28
posthumandoes bon echo have the built in torrent thing?08:28
posthumanheh08:28
posthumanI like that in opera08:28
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intelikeyyuch,,,  not sure what i borked but mc is full of ""  and incase that doesn't look the same there as here it's little squares with letter 'a' having a spade over it between each pair of squares08:28
notamisfitposthuman: doubt it. That might actually be worth it08:28
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luc45TheHighChild: im back. no i didnt.08:29
posthumanlol.08:29
TheHighChildKwukki: cd to the directory with the tarball and untar it into /opt          'tar xvzf Bon*.tar.bz && mv firefox /opt' then execute it with /opt/firefox/firefox08:29
Kwukkik08:30
fiyawerx!sources08:30
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource08:30
TheHighChildluc45: A couple of my friends made  it, it's a very cool mod, new weapons, etc08:30
fiyawerx!easysource08:30
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:30
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luc45TheHighChild: allright i'll give it a try08:30
pyrooohow do make kubuntu toggle laguages using alt+shift?08:30
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pyrooocuz it doesn't work08:30
TheHighChildpyrooo: I think languages are at kde load time, I could be wrong though08:31
luc45TheHighChild: i'm with Tru Combat: Elite though08:31
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TheHighChildKwukki: Actuallly, you'll need to use sudo with the mv command to move it to /opt08:33
Kwukkii know08:33
KwukkiKDEInit kon '/opt/firefox/firefox' niet opstarten.08:33
intelikeyhmmm the wierd change seems to have only affected high number consoles ....      <puzzeled/>08:33
Kwukkichmod /opt/firefox?08:33
intelikeytty7+08:33
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luc45TheHighChild: where do i get it?08:34
TheHighChildsimply typing /opt/firefox/firefox should work, if it doesn't cd into /opt/firefox and type './firefox' and see if that works08:34
intelikey?08:35
TheHighChildluc45: Only one server is running it right now, it will autodownload. 82.165.190.77:2796008:35
intelikeylol08:35
luc45TheHighChild: that sound bad... want some screenies first08:36
luc45:p08:36
intelikeyif typing exact path doesn't work try relative path.... lol      8=|}08:36
TheHighChildlol, you can go to our forums www.shitstorm.org there is a section for the No Quarter stuff, should be screenshots in there08:36
luc45k08:37
TheHighChildluc45: Do you use xqf?08:38
luc45dunno08:38
luc45:-p08:38
luc45whats that?08:38
TheHighChildYou'd know if you did. It's a server browser for tux. You can put your favorites in there, etc08:39
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TheHighChildhttp://www.linuxgames.com/xqf/index.shtml08:39
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luc45TheHighChild: wow nice08:40
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TheHighChildluc45: Yeah, it's cool. I got even more lazy and just started making scripts in my .bashrc to conenct to servers. lol, too easy on linux08:40
stankshello08:40
luc45lol08:41
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stankshow to install driver for nvidia?08:41
TheHighChildluc45: Here's the spladderladder listing for our mod08:41
notamisfit!nvidia > stanks08:41
TheHighChildhttp://et.splatterladder.com/?mod=serverinfo&idx=14249708:41
stanks!nvidia08:41
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:42
stanksthx08:42
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MasterEvilAceis fat the only filesystem that is readable/writable between XP and Linux?08:42
MasterEvilAcewindows xp that is08:43
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aegeanlinuxMasterEvilAce: There is a program that allows you to read ext3 hard drives in windows XP08:44
luc45TheHighChild: allright.im trying it. brb08:44
TheHighChildMasterEvilAce: out of the box yes. You can download some software to read/write from windows to ext08:44
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MasterEvilAceany version of EXT?08:44
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TheHighChildMasterEvilAce: I think but cannot say for sure08:44
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ethicwhois08:57
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Kwukkii had a driver for all versions of  ext (XP)08:58
Kwukkiit exists08:58
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fiyawerxhey guys, i tried installing java via adept, and i couldnt "accept" the ok license agreement09:14
fiyawerxi had to just x out09:14
fiyawerxnow after a reboot, the updater is saying something else is running09:14
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fiyawerxeven tho nothing is09:14
Kwukkii had the same problem09:19
Kwukkisudo dpkg --configure -a09:19
NickGarveyfiyawerx: heh you live near me09:19
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fiyawerxwhere ya from nick?09:19
NickGarvey< scotia-glenville (near schenectady)09:19
fiyawerxcool09:19
marcus__what is the apt-get command to install synaptic please?09:19
fiyawerxi just moved up here a year ago09:20
Kwukkisudo apt-get install synaptic09:20
fiyawerxi'm in east greenbush09:20
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NickGarveyoh thats pretty close09:20
Kwukkifiyawerx: country? :-s09:20
marcus__Kwukki:  I tried that. It denied it was there09:20
NickGarveythats where my cdlug meetings are held I believe09:20
fiyawerxKwukki: that was for NickGarvey09:20
Kwukkimarcus__ : strange09:20
fiyawerxNickGarvey: cdlug?09:20
Kwukkifiyawerx : I know09:20
NickGarveyfiyawerx: capital district linux users group09:21
marcus__kwukki: I am doing new install of Kubuntu dapper drake09:21
fekmoin09:21
centyxhey all09:21
Kwukkiyou can install itwith adept09:21
marcus__Kwukki: I can only get adept to come up09:21
NickGarveyfiyawerx: http://cdlug.net/09:21
fiyawerxNickGarvey: oh, thats nifty, i havn't looked into _anything_ aorund here like that, heh09:21
Kwukkiinstall synaptic with adept?09:21
marcus__Kwukki: How do I get adept to change from easy mode?09:21
Kwukkieasy mode?09:22
KwukkiKmenu> System>Adept09:22
marcus__kwukki: Okay I can get add remove programs, but adept will not load09:22
Kwukkiwow?09:22
marcus__kwukki: my mistake09:22
Kwukkik09:22
marcus__Got adept to load but cant change repositories09:24
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FHXDoes anyone know how I could stop the sound/picture lags when watching videos on Kubuntu?09:24
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fiyawerxNickGarvey: wonder how many are introduced to ubuntu hehe09:27
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NickGarveyfiyawerx: in cdlug? I know a few people use it for sure09:27
marcus__Still no luck with adept09:27
fiyawerxNickGarvey: neat09:27
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marcus__can i get some help with adept please?09:29
centyxmarcus__: what's the problem?09:29
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marcus__centyx: adept only shows me the packages I have installed09:29
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centyxmarcus__: in the dropdown menu next to search, have you selected Any Suite?09:30
marcus__centyx: apperently the extra repositories were commented out because they failed to verify09:31
centyxmarcus__: ah.09:31
marcus__centyx: how do i get those repositories back?09:32
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centyxhttp://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource09:33
centyxthe second link09:33
centyxer09:34
centyxyea09:34
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intelikeyhmmm interesting error.   at the login prompt, i type the name.  it asks for the passwd,  i type the passwd.   it returns to the login prompt.         ;/09:36
intelikeyzeos-486 login: guest09:36
intelikeyPassword:09:36
intelikeyzeos-486 login:09:36
intelikeyaint that cute ?09:37
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centyxmarcus__: click on the Adept menu, and click Manage Repositories. If that doesn't work, open a Konsole window and follow these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine09:37
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centyxintelikey: boot into single user mode and look at the logs or something09:39
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centyxintelikey: just look around09:40
intelikeyi'm gonna reboot as soon as this dl is finished.09:40
intelikeybut it will be a little while.09:40
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centyxheh09:40
intelikey:)09:40
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fiyawerxtalk about a typo09:41
intelikeycentyx you using kubuntu ?09:41
centyxintelikey: yea09:41
fiyawerxi meant to say l = id10t, and typed i = instead :(09:41
intelikeycentyx what's the permissions on /root ?09:42
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intelikeyfiyawerx lol  :)09:42
centyxroot:root09:42
intelikeywas it a typo ?09:43
ColonelKernelhey can somebody tell me how I can set up a partition in Kubuntu so that Windows can use it?  I have Kubuntu installed on a separate hard drive, and Windows can't see the 10gb i want it to have09:43
intelikeyworld readable09:43
centyxintelikey: yea09:43
intelikeydoesn't that break all kinds of security standards ?09:43
centyxintelikey: what do you call being able to sudo su - ?09:44
Lynoureintelikey: This is a user support channel. So best most people here can do it to tell you to file a bug. It's not by far the only linux distro that does that, so you might want to refer to the standards in the bug report09:44
centyxintelikey: I don't think that kubuntu/ubuntu is about security09:44
fiyawerxcentyx: rhetorical09:44
Lynoureintelikey: There is #ubuntu-dev , too09:44
fiyawerxcentyx: just sudo -09:44
ColonelKernelnobody?09:45
centyxintelikey: i personally don't mind09:45
ColonelKernelalrighty, np, i'll try back l8r...09:45
centyxColonelKernel: ColonelKernel hey09:46
intelikeycentyx i agree...   i changed mine to 000 like /root was on all linux systems i ever messed with until this one.   and kdm changed it back.09:46
ColonelKernelcentyx: yeah?09:46
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centyxColonelKernel: there's a program called Total Commander or something like that for windows, it's shareware, it'll read ext2/ext3 I think09:46
centyxColonelKernel: it's a file manager09:46
ColonelKernelcentyx: aha.09:46
ColonelKernelcentyx: so strange, windows reads the drive as 0 bytes available RAW09:46
ColonelKernelcentyx: i'll try that program.09:47
intelikeycentyx "what do you call being able to sudo su - ?"  the worst plan i've seen yet.   but don't tell the developers that....09:47
centyxintelikey: i think it's great09:47
centyx:P09:47
intelikey:)09:47
centyxi'm really not worried about someone pwning my home computer09:48
centyxmaybe i should be09:48
centyxi duno09:48
Lynourecentyx: not worried but prepared.09:48
intelikeycentyx makes it easier to put a root kit on someone elses box  ;/09:48
ColonelKernelcentyx: lol i was considering giving this guy root access to help me with sound?09:48
ColonelKernelcentyx: and like 15 people were like HELL NO DONT DO IT09:49
ColonelKernelcentyx: funny as hell... therefore, I'll pass it on.  be worried ;D09:49
centyxColonelKernel: I wouldn't do that...09:49
LynoureI know I sometimes do stuff that makes having full sudo risky (like installing binary only stuff I don't completely trust... but there are rate things I trust completely)09:49
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centyxLynoure: yea, me too. that's the only time I really get nervous.09:50
ColonelKernelcentyx: exactly.  i was about to too.  good thing people are watchin me :D09:50
intelikeyand i don't....   :)09:50
centyxColonelKernel: ;)09:50
ColonelKernel:D09:50
centyxColonelKernel: you ever played the game Tron 2.0?09:51
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ColonelKernelcentyx: nope.09:51
sajhi, does kubuntu allow09:51
sajmltiple09:51
centyxColonelKernel: k, n/m09:51
ColonelKernelcentyx: btw that program can't read the hd neither09:51
sajprograms to use the sound system09:51
ColonelKernel*either09:51
sajat the same time?09:51
centyxColonelKernel: ah09:51
fiyawerxi think you can play around with /etc/sudoers to change what you can actually sudo do09:51
ColonelKernelcentyx: now what. :D09:51
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fiyawerxthat and the groups you get by default09:52
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centyxvisudo09:52
intelikeysaj yes.   but the channel doesn't allow using the return key as a word spacing key09:52
dAbReAkAanyone here?09:52
ColonelKernelcentyx: should I try the partitioning utility in Kubuntu? would that be able to format the disk for windows use?09:53
centyxColonelKernel: I guess you'll need to setup another partition. I guess fat32.09:53
centyxColonelKernel: like a partition for data09:53
ColonelKernelcentyx: not NTSC?09:53
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centyxColonelKernel: the NT driver for linux is very limited09:53
dAbReAkAi have a problem configuring kubuntu.. it's sound cards related..09:53
dAbReAkAanyone willing to help?09:53
ColonelKernelcentyx: ok.  just to clarify, windows can read fat32 right? lol i'm such a noob...09:53
centyxColonelKernel: keep your main ext3 or whatever partition for linux09:54
ColonelKernelcentyx: got it.  thanks a lot man.09:54
centyxColonelKernel: and setup an extra partition that they both can read, fat3209:54
intelikeyColonelKernel no not ntfs.   ntfs is not fully supported in linux09:54
ColonelKernelintelikey: i gathered09:54
ColonelKernelanybody know why the IRC is so much more helpful than the forums?09:55
ColonelKernelforums have like 15 questions with 0 replies09:55
ColonelKerneljust kinda odd...09:55
intelikeyColonelKernel yeah, i'm lagging so move my posts up near the top of the page any they will be in order as i type them....09:55
ColonelKerneloh lol09:55
ColonelKerneli'll stick to the IRC all the same :D.  thanks guys09:56
centyxColonelKernel: irc's kindof hit or miss tho, depends on who's on and what kindof mood they're in09:56
fiyawerxdAbReAkA: better to just ask your question09:56
dAbReAkAanyone know how can i make my first sound card the default for output, and the second one the default for input.. kubuntu 6.06 properly detects them both..09:56
fiyawerx!ask09:56
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:56
ColonelKernelcentyx: thats true :D09:56
centyxi should go back to bed09:57
centyxi got up to let the dog out09:57
ColonelKernelso far, top 5 most helpful people: lol: abattoir, crimsun, centyx, intelikey, and teknosomething09:57
ColonelKernellol09:57
fiyawerxdAbReAkA: i'm not too familiar with it, but maybe in kmix?09:57
ColonelKernelanyway, cya guys l8r09:57
dAbReAkAmaybe, but i i dont know how :)09:57
dAbReAkAi've got my 5.1 subwoofer connected to the first sound card09:58
dAbReAkAand my mic connected to the second one09:58
intelikeyi would ask "why not to the same card?"  but i hate to jump in the middle of things...09:59
dAbReAkAbecause the first one has no available slots10:00
dAbReAkAthe second one can support both of them10:00
dAbReAkAbut the sound is weird.. stupid old cmedia.. so i use it only for the mic and it works fine..10:00
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centyxheh10:01
centyxanybody know of a good itunes client for linux?10:02
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centyxi've never even used itunes, but i've seen all this stuff online like "College courses from Ucal at Berkeley on itunes, click here" and danny phantom episodes and stuff10:03
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fiyawerxdoes itunes work in wine?10:03
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intelikeyi read the other day that 'france' was going to force itunes to offer M$ compatability10:04
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intelikeyin that country of course.10:05
ColonelKernelcentyx: need help again. same problem10:05
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MrFaberhi all10:05
ColonelKernelintelikey: or you ;D10:05
fiyawerxhttp://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=134710:05
centyxColonelKernel: what's up?10:05
ColonelKernelcentyx: i'm logged in to Kubuntu10:05
MrFaberis it possible without destroying dapper to install xorg 6.8?10:05
ColonelKernelcentyx: in the partitioner10:05
ColonelKernelcentyx: it won't let me modify the 17 gb partition at all.10:06
centyxthis is sad. I'm on irc, in putty, in windows, in vmware-player, in kubuntu, so i can try out itunes10:06
ColonelKernelcentyx: lol. itunes isn't all that great10:06
fiyawerxcentyx: hah10:06
intelikeyColonelKernel is it mounted ?10:06
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centyxColonelKernel: I've never used the partitioner. what's it called?10:06
fiyawerxhow's kubuntu run in vmware?10:07
ColonelKernelcentyx: called Disk and Filesystems10:07
ColonelKernelcentyx: and no its not mounted10:07
_MR_ Hi. Did anyone encounter very slow aptitude 'read/write package states' phase on Edgy?10:07
centyxfiyawerx: i duno, i'm running windows in vmware10:07
MrFaberfiyawerx, who cares about Itunes, more important is Jagged Alliance 2 wildfire which doesn't work anymore10:07
MrFaber;)10:07
fiyawerxoh, werd10:07
fiyawerxhow's windows run in vmware?10:07
fiyawerx:)10:07
MrFabercentyx, but vmware isn't free10:07
centyxMrFaber: vmware-player is :)10:07
ColonelKernelcentyx: any ideas?10:07
centyxColonelKernel: 1 sec10:07
fiyawerxvirtualPC is free now10:07
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fiyawerxif anyone didn't know yet10:07
MrFaberflake, you coud try Qemu10:08
MrFabersorry flake10:08
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ColonelKernelintelikey: any ideas?10:08
MrFaberfiyawerx, try Qemu10:08
ColonelKernel!de10:08
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:08
ColonelKernellol whee....10:08
centyxoh, it's not free like libre10:08
centyxbut it's free to use10:08
intelikeyColonelKernel is there data on it that you want to keep ?10:08
centyxthat's good enough for me10:08
fiyawerxme too10:08
ColonelKernelintelikey: not on that partition. on the drive though10:08
ColonelKernelintelikey: same drive as kubuntu's ext3 and swap10:08
fiyawerxnot that i really need virtual pc's for anything tho, i just dual boot10:09
centyxColonelKernel: blow away the partition then and recreate it10:09
ColonelKernelcentyx: can't.10:09
^osh^centyx: fiyawerx: VMWare is also free to use.10:09
fiyawerx ^osh^ thats what i just said10:09
ColonelKernelcentyx: won't let me bloody touch the partition10:09
intelikeyColonelKernel terminal command    sudo cfdisk /dev/hd?       where ? is the proper device...10:09
fiyawerx^osh^: nevermind, no it's not10:09
fiyawerx^osh^: sorry, tired10:09
ColonelKernelok wait plz10:10
^osh^fiyawerx: Oh, sorry. I wasn't paying attention. But you said player. Isn't server also free. I think I run that now.10:10
centyxColonelKernel: what app is this?10:10
ColonelKernelcentyx: i told you, Disk & Filesystems10:10
fiyawerx^osh^: oh, no clue, never ran any of them, meant virtualPC from microsoft is now free10:10
centyxColonelKernel: sorry, I'm new to kubuntu... having trouble finding it10:10
centyxColonelKernel: :P10:10
fiyawerxcan't think of anything i'd run virtual machines for really10:10
fiyawerxi'd rather just be in the real thing most of the time10:10
ColonelKernelcentyx: under system settings10:10
ColonelKernelcentyx: at the bottom10:11
fiyawerxonly thing i use windows for is playing sims and halo, and i doubt they'd run well like that hehe10:11
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ColonelKernelintelikey: ok i did that now what/10:11
centyxColonelKernel: oh yea there it is10:11
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ColonelKernelintelikey: did that delete the partition?10:11
ColonelKernelcentyx: :D10:11
centyxColonelKernel: had you entered administrator mode in the gui before you tried to delete it?10:11
ColonelKernelcentyx: yes.10:11
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^osh^fiyawerx: development. that's what I use it for. Keep a few different machines and use them for development. When you screw up royyally, just delete and ad restart.10:12
intelikeyColonelKernel it should have opened an interactive drive partitioning tool  cfdisk     did it ?10:12
ColonelKernelintelikey: yessir10:12
centyxColonelKernel: bah just do what intelikey sais. I'm not familiar w/ this gui thing either. cfdisk works fine.10:12
ColonelKernelintelikey: says I have 18gb of space, as if that partition doesn't exist10:12
fiyawerx^osh^: hmm, thats not a bad idea, i was thinking of starting to learn QT stuff, but i'd want it to run in windows too10:12
ColonelKernelintelikey: should i go for makin a new partition?10:12
ColonelKernelwhoops10:13
ColonelKernelintelikey: nevermind, i forgot that this is editing the partition.10:13
intelikeynuke the partition you want to nuke.  make new ones as you like.   then save and exit.10:13
centyxoh the gui horror!10:13
ColonelKernelintelikey: how do I nuke this one? i did cfdisc /dev/hdb1 i.e. the partition i want to nuke10:13
centyxmelting my brain10:13
ColonelKernelintelikey: do i redo without the number?10:14
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intelikeynot hdb1      sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb10:14
centyxColonelKernel: move the cursor down so it's hilited and then hit d10:14
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centyxoh10:14
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centyxthat might help10:14
intelikeydon't forget i'm lagging about 30 seconds.10:15
ColonelKernelcentyx: ok lol10:15
ColonelKerneloops10:15
ColonelKernelintelikey: ok lol10:15
ColonelKernelintelikey: 46 ms for me :D10:15
arkygeekhi everyone.  i have a laptop with an intel i915 and i am trying to use both my laptop screen and an external monitor at the same time as extra desktop space - where do i enable the dual head option of this card?10:16
ColonelKernelhmm. fatal error, bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions overlap.10:16
ColonelKernelinteresting...10:16
intelikeyyeah dl is eating all my 'band-narrowness'      "dialup doesn't have 'band-width' you know"10:16
ColonelKernelintelikey: LOL10:16
centyxintelikey: dialup! i feel yourpain10:16
intelikeyeeeek partition table is hosed.    save your data to another disk.10:17
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ColonelKernelintelikey: what? i don't understand10:17
centyx;/10:17
chavofor the longest time I thought I was going to be the last person on earth using dialup10:17
centyxchavo: yea same here10:17
chavofinally got cable here :)10:17
intelikey partitions overlap <--- means that both may "probably are" lost.10:18
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ColonelKernelintelikey: one of the partitions is what Kubuntu is installed on.  I can't fix that problem withou a format?10:19
ColonelKernelcentyx: is w95 fat32 the rightr format?10:19
centyxColonelKernel: yea that's the right format10:20
ColonelKernelcentyx: k10:20
centyxman.10:20
centyx$30 for Danny Phantom season 110:20
centyxi was hoping it'd be free10:20
centyxitunes is lame10:21
centyx:P10:21
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ColonelKernelaffirmative10:21
ColonelKernelintelikey: i don't see how if the partitions overlap kubuntu is running.10:21
intelikeyColonelKernel all i can say for sure is "if you have files that you care to have access to on the next reboot"  then you should seriously consider making a backup on cdr  or another hd  while you still can.    if the partition table is corupted when you unmount the partition may be the last time you ever see it.10:22
centyxI've had os's run on severely messed up partition tables before10:22
ColonelKernelintelikey: not worried about that, just don't really wanna reinstall kubuntu.  i've rebooted like 10 times since the installation with no trouble though10:22
centyxthey ran ok, i just couldn't create any more partitions10:22
intelikeyColonelKernel because the partition table was changed after the fs was mounted, i would guess.10:22
ColonelKernelcentyx: that sux cause I really need the space10:22
centyxColonelKernel: you don't have to reinstall10:23
ColonelKernelintelikey: hmmm.10:23
ColonelKernelcentyx: really?10:23
centyxColonelKernel: do you have a fileserver?10:23
ColonelKernelcentyx: and still get that partition back? and nope.10:23
centyxhrm10:23
centyxColonelKernel: do you have another computer in the house on the network?10:23
ColonelKernelcentyx: yes, but the file sharing doesn't work currently10:23
cox377is there any tweaks for kubuntu?10:23
ColonelKernelcentyx: if that's wat ur getting at10:23
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ColonelKernelcox377: millions...10:24
intelikeyand the way the installer works (assuming you used the livecd) i wouldn't want to reload either.10:24
cox377lol10:24
ColonelKernelintelikey: true true.10:24
ColonelKernelintelikey: took like 5 downloads... at least I have the working disc...10:24
centyxColonelKernel: how much free space do you have on your linux partition?10:24
cox377colonelkernel, i've changed the kernal to my CPU10:24
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ColonelKernelcentyx: plenty... 14 gb or so10:25
ColonelKernelcox377: whoope. what are you looking to do?10:25
centyxColonelKernel: how much space is kubuntu taking up?10:25
intelikeyColonelKernel there is an app made for rebuilding partition tables.      let me think of the name....10:25
cox377well10:25
cox377speed the thing up a bit10:25
centyxintelikey: that'd be a lot better than what i'm thinking of10:25
cox377it just feels sluggish10:25
intelikeycheckdisk maybe ?10:25
ColonelKernelintelikey: hmmmmmmz...10:25
intelikeytestdisk - Partition scanner and disk recovery tool10:26
ColonelKernelintelikey: for linux i assume? whats the package name10:26
ColonelKernel!testdisk10:26
ubotuI know nothing about testdisk - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:26
intelikey^  that10:26
ColonelKernelhmmz10:26
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intelikeyit's in the repos10:26
ColonelKerneldo you know the apt-get command or do I have to use Adept10:26
centyxColonelKernel: apt-cache show testdisk for a description10:26
centyxColonelKernel: apt-get install testdisk to install it10:27
intelikey!info testdisk10:27
ubotutestdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In repository universe, is optional. Version 6.1-1 (dapper), package size 386 kB, installed size 1124 kB10:27
ColonelKernelcentyx: thank you10:27
ColonelKernelsweet10:27
ColonelKernelinstalling...10:27
intelikeyyeah sudo that ^  and you got it10:27
cox377colonelkernel, can u suggest any tweaks for speed10:27
centyxintelikey: hopefully it'll work10:27
ColonelKernelcox377: sorry, i'm a n00b... ask somebody else :D10:27
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ColonelKernelcentyx: it's installed, now what do I do with it :D10:28
thykohow do i customize the 'login screen'?10:28
thykothe one with the huge 'Kubuntu' written on it?10:28
intelikeyColonelKernel read the warnings and follow the on-screen instructions.10:28
centyxintelikey: i was gonna have him 1) boot into kubuntu live cd 2) tar up his kubuntu install , dd his windows install 3) install winscp on his other computer, and copy them over10:28
intelikeycentyx hope is good.10:28
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ColonelKernelintelikey: yikes thats a lotta bad stuff10:28
thykologin manager is unable to change it10:28
ColonelKernelintelikey: bad bad bad...10:29
centyxColonelKernel: i've never used it :P live and learn ;)10:29
ColonelKernelcentyx: yeah wish me luck :D10:29
centyxi need to go back to bed for real. good luck!10:29
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centyxafk10:30
fiyawerxman10:30
fiyawerxon my laptop my wireless stops resolving dns like every 3 minutes for 10-20 seconds10:30
fiyawerxand i can't figure it out for the life of me10:30
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fiyawerxeven if i set it to external dns servers10:30
NickGarveyI had that problem too10:30
NickGarveylast night10:30
NickGarveydrove me nuts10:30
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ajaysup guys10:31
fiyawerxNickGarvey: roadrunner/time warner?10:31
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fiyawerxit was doing it last night for me too, and seems like it just started again not too long ago10:31
NickGarveyfiyawerx: ! yes10:31
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NickGarveyfiyawerx: you are in my area!10:31
NickGarveyfiyawerx: its not just me! excellent10:31
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fiyawerxnot excellent, that means it's not something we can fix10:32
fiyawerx:-P10:32
NickGarveyhaha10:32
NickGarveywell at least its not something I broke10:32
fiyawerxright10:32
ColonelKernelintelikey: YOU ARE A GOD i ran testdisk, had to change heads per cylinder, all fixed10:32
fiyawerxi was thinking the same thing10:32
ColonelKernelintelikey: thank you10:32
fiyawerxroadunners been shite lately10:32
_MR_ Hi. Did anyone encounter very slow aptitude 'read/write package states' phase on Edgy?10:32
intelikeyhehhe now if my login issue was that simple....10:33
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intelikeyi am not "A GOD"   but i know Him   :)10:33
ajayintelikey: lol10:33
intelikeyand you're welcome.10:34
ColonelKernelintelikey: lol10:34
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ajaybtw i have heard the word GOD too :)10:34
NickGarveyplay golf with him on weekends10:34
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ajayyeah NickGarvey10:35
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Cuore_di_lattahello10:35
ajayhi10:35
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hypodiakhooroo10:36
intelikeyhypo_diak ???10:37
hypodiakjust installed kubuntu & now plying with kopete, but it seems broken10:37
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arkygeekis there a gui for configuring the intel i915 (ex: enabling 2nd screen, or changing from clone to its own pipe?)10:37
intelikeyoh hy_pod_iak   nm....10:38
hypodiakintelikey ??10:38
hypodiakno - hypo diak10:38
intelikeywas just wondering you you said your nickname ?10:38
hypodiakno - i was asking about kopete on kubuntu10:39
NickGarveyhypodiak: how is it broken?10:39
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hypodiakit's pretty well broken on fedora 5, and i was just wondering if i'm wqasting my time trying to get it workiung with msn on kubunto10:40
intelikeyi have no clue, sorry.10:41
aegeanlinuxTry installing Gaim10:42
aegeanlinuxits not a KDE app, but its the best app to use MSN10:42
aegeanlinuxalso try aMSN10:42
hypodiakyeah. been using gaim, and i agree.  Whats aMSN? a client or an alternative service?10:44
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aegeanlinuxa client10:45
aegeanlinuxits OK10:45
aegeanlinuxMSN only10:45
aegeanlinuxit looks alot like Windows Messenger used to look10:46
hypodiakok.  I'll probly stick to gaim, cause I need jabber as well.10:46
aegeanlinuxmmmmm10:47
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intelikeywell the chain reaction hasn't reached a critical mass point yet  but the core is overheating.    it seems that every thing i do breaks something else.  console fonts are messed in tty7+ login is hosed on all consoles for all users.   startx will take root to a blue screen with mouse and nothing more.   startx wont do anything for anyone else.  xdm will login any user and imediately reset X   but if i try to login root on 10:48
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hypodiakwhat have you done?10:50
fiyawerxporn overload10:50
intelikeyi'm thinking about doing rm -r /root /home && ln -s /dev/null /root && ln -s /dev/null /home       and then reconfigure the system from there....10:50
intelikeyhypodiak removed a few configs in /etc maybe... changed a few permissions...  nothing much really   :)10:51
fiyawerxheh10:51
intelikeyhaven't really goten it the way i want it yet tho    give me time.10:52
intelikeyoh and i removed the partition table on the disk that kubuntu is installed on.10:53
intelikeybut that's standard proceedure for me.10:53
intelikeyand seeing that my home is not in /home  and  root's home is not in /root  i don't think awaxing those two dirs should be any big deal.10:54
hypodiakokey dokey - I'll leave you to it then... give me a yell if really stuff anything :)10:55
intelikeyas far as i know kdm is the only thing that expects to write to /root  and i removed kdm already (for that cause)10:55
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fiyawerxintelikey: why?10:56
intelikey"if really stuff anything" ???10:57
hypodiaksorry - accent problems10:57
Ash-Foxwhat daemon runs DHCP?10:58
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intelikeyfiyawerx well it all started when i noticed the world readable permissions on /root      /root has always been the "safe" place to keep sensitive data, with perms of 000 but kdm resets it to 755 and then uses it for a tmp dir.   so i set out to fix that.10:59
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intelikeyi started on the wrong end of the problem.  i should have just removed kdm and said "there"   but NO!  i had to start fiddeling with system configs.....11:01
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NickayHi. I have install from "Package manager" php5. I want to compile Php for apache. I would like to ask where can i find the folder of php in order to configure? Thanks11:01
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intelikeyi really havent made up my mind whether to fix it,  or FIX IT!   if you know what i mean.11:02
fiyawerx!lamp11:02
ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP11:02
fiyawerxNickay: libapache2-mod-php5 should take care of that for you11:02
intelikeyNickay the package manager is the tool for that.    dpkg -L php5\*11:03
Lynoureintelikey: There are at least three kinds of fixing... For yourself, for everyone or 'fixing' by getting rid of it. The middle one gets bonus points.11:03
ajay!ajay11:03
ubotuI know nothing about ajay - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu11:03
Nickaythanks all11:03
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centyxcouldn't fall back to sleep11:04
intelikeyand yes Nickay by all means use the binary solution fiyawerx mentioned.11:04
centyxintelikey: how did the Colonel turn out?11:04
centyxi'm putting kubuntu on my wife's computer11:04
centyxshe's been complaining about windows11:04
intelikeyLynoure i am everyone.  on this system.....11:04
intelikeycentyx A+11:05
centyxintelikey: awesome11:05
intelikeytestdisk rebuilt the partition table and pointed out the problem that caused it...11:06
centyxwow11:06
centyximpressive11:06
centyxI'll have to remembe that one11:06
intelikeyyeah... shame it would never work on one of my hd's11:07
centyxeverytime I've got a hosed partition table in the past, i've just tarred up everything, wiped the disk, remade the partitions, and untarred it again11:07
centyxintelikey: why's that?11:07
Lynoureintelikey: you probably still could have guessed what I meant... Fixing it in ubuntu instead of just fixing it on your system11:07
intelikeyi don't have partitions11:07
centyxoh11:07
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mumu!grub11:08
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto11:08
intelikeyLynoure they would never accept one of my fixes.   i'm old school + anti-automation   the exact oppisite of the ubuntu team.11:09
Lynoureintelikey: Doesn't hurt to try if you think it's a good fix.11:09
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intelikeyalso i can't use grub for that same reason centyx11:09
fiyawerxintelikey: doesn't mean they can't automate your manual fixes11:09
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Jack1hi11:10
centyxintelikey: that's too bad11:10
centyxintelikey: what kindof setup do you have?11:10
intelikeylol11:10
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centyxintelikey: lvm?11:10
fiyawerxintelikey: why not use a distro that's closer to your target setup?11:10
Jack1i have several times the same ubuntu kernel entry in grub.dont know why...11:10
intelikeycentyx no.11:11
fiyawerxJack1: same exact? or like -23, -25, -2611:11
centyxintelikey: just use the whole disk?11:11
intelikeyfiyawerx two words.   dialup & shipit11:11
Jack1fiyawerx exactly the same..ending 686, 386, 6866,386......11:11
fiyawerxhehe11:11
fiyawerxJack1: ah, did you upgrade your kernel to the 686 version?11:12
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intelikeycentyx yeah  i have several 4g hdds11:12
centyxintelikey: surely you have friends w/ broadband11:12
Jack1fiyawerx yes indee i did11:12
centyxintelikey: 4g?11:12
intelikeymmm this box has 8 dirves in it.11:12
fiyawerxJack1: that's why, they're actually different versions of the same kernel, when you upgrade it still leaves the others on there11:12
intelikeycentyx not in this county.11:12
fiyawerxJack1: im not too sure how to get rid of them, but they don't hurt anything, that way if something goes wrong you can boot into a safer one11:12
centyxintelikey: good grief man, hard drives are cheap11:13
fiyawerxJack1: unless you're hurting for filespace, then someone can prob. help better than me11:13
centyxintelikey: oh, where are you from?11:13
centyxintelikey: i figured you were from texas, us11:13
intelikeycentyx yeah  4.2 GB hdd's11:13
intelikeycentyx no.11:13
fiyawerxusing BitchX on a free shell somewhere?11:14
fiyawerxheh11:14
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centyxintelikey: where are you from then?11:14
intelikeycentyx don't sell me new hardware.  just let me fix the os the way i like it  :)11:14
Jack1fiyawerx i could have the 386 removed via synaptiv (no prob) but would the othler useless 686 then disappear too?11:14
centyxintelikey: ok, whatever makes you happy ;)11:14
centyxintelikey: i used to use those old 4.2gb drives too, but they'd all die so fast11:15
centyxintelikey: and now big drives are so cheap, where i am anyway11:15
fiyawerxJack1: i don't believe so, in synaptic you can prob find the old 686 also11:15
fiyawerxlike one will be 2.6.15-26-68611:15
centyxnot that i can afford them11:15
fiyawerxone will be 2.6.15-25-68611:15
centyxi haven't bought any new hardware in 3 years11:15
fiyawerxyou should be able to remove the lower number ok11:15
fiyawerxim pretty usre11:16
fiyawerxsure11:16
centyxthe last item i bought was a 250gb harddrive11:16
centyxnow you can get 2 400gb harddrives for the price i paid for it11:16
Jack1who has a recommendable smartphone working with linux?11:16
centyxback then11:16
intelikeycentyx yeah, but i have only spent about $100 US  on computers so far.  (not counting a NES back when they came out)   so when you say cheep.   you are probably not thinking the way i think.11:17
fiyawerxintelikey: since ubuntu doesn't (generally) use root, why not just make a secure folder somewhere else to store private data11:17
centyxyea i know11:17
centyxpeople used to give me hardware a lot11:18
centyxwish they still did11:18
fiyawerxwhoa, when did the sun come up11:19
centyxman11:19
centyxdist-upgrade's been running since i've come back on here11:19
fiyawerxand why wasn't i informed11:19
intelikeyfiyawerx i have done that.   but mounting 'nosuid' i have to be able to login as root.   and i figure a root passoerd of 60-70 chars is safer than any sudo + short pass that is out there.11:19
centyxnew kubuntu install11:19
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fiyawerxyour login password is 60 characters long?11:20
centyxintelikey: 60-70 characters? you are a little paranoid11:20
fiyawerxis that possible?11:20
centyxi never login as root. i just su -11:20
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centyxopenbsd put me in that habit w/ it's beligerant badgerings11:21
centyx:P11:21
centyxisn't there a kubuntu talk channel for offtopic conversation?11:21
fiyawerxintelikey: i thought the main reason you were doing all this was because of /root being world readable11:21
intelikeyno.... just not as (no body can hack my box, cause i have linux now) as most *buntu users are.11:21
centyxofftopic - meaning, not support11:22
centyxLynoure: what's the name of that channel?11:22
fiyawerx!offtopic11:22
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!11:22
intelikeyfiyawerx that's where it started yes.11:22
centyxah11:22
centyxfiyawerx: thanks11:22
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fiyawerxintelikey: i've had apt-gotten programs make directories that aren't world readable11:23
fiyawerxso i know it's easily possible11:23
fiyawerxwhy didn't you just do that with your own private directory from the start11:23
fiyawerxand ignore /root11:23
fiyawerxlike /myprivatedirectory11:23
fiyawerxwould have saved a lot of trouble11:23
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fiyawerxoh11:25
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fiyawerxand not all the files in /root are readable, either11:26
intelikeyfiyawerx i have a backup copy of the whole drive....  ;/    so if i do a total revamp and like it. i'll nuke the backup.  if i don't like it. i'll nuke the changed one....    but i do have to do something about root and world readability... what ever i deside to do about it.11:26
fiyawerxso you could have just set your private file permissions11:26
centyxseems like in debian i remember having been asked if i wanted world readable homedirs or not11:26
centyxit's been a while since i installed debian11:26
centyxusing the installer anyway11:26
fiyawerxintelikey: thats fine, just trying to offer alternatives from all the changes you're doing, that might end up hurting even more in the future because other programs might expect certain setups11:27
fiyawerxfor instance, try to cat /root/.viminfo11:27
intelikeycentyx yes ubuntu hoary used to ask about home dirs11:27
centyxi wonder if there's a config option somewhere...11:28
intelikeythere should be nothing besides the root user ever read/write in /root11:28
intelikeythat was the whole point of the /root dir to begin with.11:29
centyxah does anyone have the link to jriddel's gpg key for kubuntu packages?11:29
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centyxi need to wget it11:29
centyxi'm not in x11:29
centyxi guess i can install lynx11:29
centyxor links11:29
centyxe11:29
intelikeyor links2    elinks11:30
intelikeyi like links211:30
centyxhello rob.11:30
centyxi've never tried links2, just elinks11:30
robhi centyx11:30
fiyawerxintelikey: have you tried starting a discussion on the world readbale /root in the forums?11:30
intelikeyclean  and does graphics too11:30
fiyawerxit does graphics in a console?11:31
fiyawerxah, does both11:31
intelikeyfiyawerx i'd have to register to do that.   and i have no intintion of regestering,  no offence intended.11:32
fiyawerxintelikey: none taken, mind if i ask why tho? isn't ubuntu all about contribution?11:32
intelikeyfiyawerx yes.   i also watch vidios in the console with vlc11:32
fiyawerxi don't think you even need to give htem any real info to register11:33
fiyawerxand if it would be a help to the community11:33
intelikeyor at least i do...11:33
intelikeyyou reg'd ?   you want a discussion started on world readable /root ?     why you trying to get me to do it ?11:35
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intelikey:)11:35
intelikeyfiyawerx centyx at any rate.   gooday mates11:36
fiyawerxbecause you're the one that sees it as a problem11:36
fiyawerxi couldn't argue against it when i don't think it's an issue11:36
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fiyawerxloopz, do you play armagetron?11:37
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k2hi all11:39
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k2what do you see at "linux:8002"?11:39
_nielsHi Folks!11:39
_nielsI need some assistance11:40
_nielsI have 2 HD's in my System on the 1st device is KUbuntu Dapper and on the 2nd is W$98. As yet I cannot choose while the system is booting which system I want to start11:41
_nielsI had a look at /boot/grub/menu.lst and followed the given example11:42
fiyawerx!dualboot11:42
ubotuDual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot11:42
fiyawerxick11:42
fiyawerxthats not it heh11:42
fiyawerxoh11:42
fiyawerxwow im tired, yeah it is11:42
_nielsbut I'm not having a mac11:43
fiyawerxthe first link may help, im not positive, but doesn't windows always want to be the first boot device?11:43
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fiyawerxmaybe not, i havn't had any problems with the dual boots, but im going off of the same hard drive11:45
fiyawerxnto experienced with 211:45
fiyawerxi thought as long as the windows drive was there when you installed grub it would detect it11:45
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centyxok.11:59
centyxapt-get install nvidia-settings  sais it's going to remove nvidia-glx. what's up with that?12:00
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centyxwhen i do apt-cache show nvidia-settings, it sais it reccomends nvidia-glx12:00
centyxwhat gives12:00
fiyawerxnvidia-glx is new12:01
fiyawerxit contains settings and config12:01
fiyawerxnvidia-glx should be all you need12:02
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centyxah ok thanks.12:02
fiyawerxfor easy nvidia, i suggest apt-installing that, then do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, use most of the defaults, except for the driver, move it from 'nv' to 'nvidia'12:02
fiyawerxeveryone I know that's tried that has had no problems12:02
centyxthanks.12:03
fiyawerxi havnt gotten the nvidia-config-enable thing to work once12:03
fiyawerx!nvidia12:03
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto12:03
centyxheh. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't give me the right choice for my mouse. all it had was imps2 and exlporerps2. mine's just microsoft i think ( old serial 'Crystal Trackball' from compusa w/ the glowing red ball )12:06
juke_are there any good flah player that i can watch movies in video.google.com??12:07
centyxhad to fix that manually12:07
fiyawerxhehe12:07
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fiyawerxsorry12:07
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centyxi want to get one of those kensington expert whatever wireless trackballs12:08
[Nige] anyone know if the ati drivers and dual monitors is fixed in kubuntu yet?12:08
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centyx[Nige] : no clue12:08
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[Nige] oh well12:08
centyx!composite12:08
[Nige] :)12:08
ubotuI know nothing about composite - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:08
Sergeantabattoir??12:09
centyxfiyawerx: what's the option to force direct rendering while composite extension is enabled?12:09
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fiyawerxcentyx: no freakin clue12:09
fiyawerxis that compiz?12:09
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centyxfiyawerx: what's the point in having a nvidia card in linux if you don't make use of that ;)12:10
centyxi'll look it up12:10
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fiyawerxcentyx: i dunno, didnt know i was missing it to begin with :)12:10
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Sergeanti have installed sfw-player but my browser is still saying that i don't have flah player..why?? :P12:10
fiyawerxglxgears -printfps gives me around 7600 fps tho12:11
fiyawerxlike 800 fullscreen @ 1280x102412:11
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centyxman elinks is annoying12:14
Ash-Foxwhat daemon runs DHCP?12:15
fiyawerxdhcpd?12:15
[Nige] or dhcp3-server :)12:15
Ash-Foxwhat is the init script called?12:16
centyxman this is painful12:16
Ash-FoxI could of sworm it was /etc/init.d/dhcpd -- But it isn't there.12:17
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fiyawerxdo you have dhcpd installed?12:17
fiyawerxit's not by default i think12:17
fiyawerxor dhcp3-server12:17
fiyawerxsince i think it uses dhcp3 client normally12:18
fiyawerxmight go with that one like [Nige]  said12:18
fiyawerxim a nobo12:18
fiyawerxand then its /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server12:18
Ash-FoxWhat a pain.12:18
fiyawerxwhat a pain?12:18
fiyawerxsudo apt-get install dhcp3-server12:18
Ash-FoxNot the server, the client12:18
fiyawerxoh12:18
fiyawerx /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-script ?12:19
fiyawerxor maybe /sbin/dhclient or dhclient3? heh12:20
fiyawerxah dhclient is a link to dhclient312:20
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fiyawerxso i think you want /sbin/dhclient312:21
centyxfound it12:21
fiyawerxcentyx: do share?12:21
centyxk12:21
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centyxfiyawerx: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Using_the_Composite_extension12:23
centyxOption      "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true" was what I was looking for12:23
fiyawerxnot sure what thats for tho?12:24
centyxand you have to enable the composite extension12:24
centyxfiyawerx: so you can have the translucency and shadows etc :P12:24
centyxfiyawerx: eye candy12:24
fiyawerxoh12:24
fiyawerx!xgl12:24
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems12:24
fiyawerxfrom what i hear _those_ are the real eye candy12:25
centyxreally?12:25
fiyawerxthats all everyones been talking about12:25
centyxhm12:25
Ash-FoxIt makes your desktop into one of those desktops you see in the movies12:25
Ash-Foxall those special effects12:25
fiyawerxlike a 3d desktop selector and stuff12:25
fiyawerxits supposed to be awesome, i should try it out on my desktop12:26
fiyawerxcentyx: what card do you have?12:26
Ash-FoxI found it slows down my system, and doesn't really improve anything.12:26
centyxfiyawerx: an old cheap one.. hold on12:26
fiyawerxcentyx: ahh12:26
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fiyawerxAsh-Fox: yeah, its definately intensive12:26
centyxfiyawerx: GeForce FX 520012:27
centyxit probably won't be able to handle all that12:27
fiyawerxcentyx: goole image search for xgl compiz, here's a screenie of the desktop selector12:27
fiyawerxhttp://macslow.thepimp.net/shots/xgl-compiz-fsaa16x-aniso16x.png12:27
centyxhm12:28
centyxi don't care about that so much12:28
fiyawerxthere's a lot more12:28
fiyawerxthats just one part12:28
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centyxi'll check it out12:29
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fiyawerxpeople always coming and going but nobody ever chats12:42
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neoncodeHow do I know if i'm running the fglrx drivers?12:47
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johoneoncode: glxinfo12:49
johotry glxinfo | grep renderer12:50
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HTRednekdoes anybody have a way to make a wlan autoconnect at startup?01:02
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HTRednekthe card starts up and is set to auto in /etc/network/interfaces but i have to go to wireless assistant in order to establish an actual connection.01:04
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Nickayhi. I want to compile PhP with IMAP. I am not able to find any package for PHP+IMAP in the package manager. Hpw can compile php manual?01:14
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richardh_Hi, cdrecord doesn't let me burn using K3b, even after using the k3bsetup...any pointers?01:15
Pupenois /otp or /opt ?01:16
PupenoNickay: are you sure php is missing imap support ?01:16
Nickayyes01:16
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Pupeno$ apt-cache search php | grep imap01:17
Pupenophp4-imap - IMAP module for php401:17
Pupenophp5-imap - IMAP module for php501:17
PupenoNickay: isn't that enough ?01:17
Nickayi will try to find it. Thanks01:18
Pupenoyou are welcome.01:18
Tommy2k4sendmail keeps trying to open on bootup and it lasts like 2mins, even though ive already apt-get remove sendmail and rm /etc/init.d/sendmail01:18
Tommy2k4what else could i do to stop it01:18
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PupenoTommy2k4: I'd try rcconf, but be carefull. Are you 100% sure it is sendmail ?01:22
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NickayPupeno: there is not any package with this name. There is not any package with "IMAP".01:22
Tommy2k4yea it mentions sendmail a few times01:23
Tommy2k4and something about /etc/mail01:23
philipp__where do i get the package unrar-nonfree?01:24
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philipp__http://www.kubuntu.de/forum/forum.php?req=thread&id=254 this thread suggests to add http://de.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages and http://security.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages to the source list, but that doesnt seem to help01:26
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NickayI am try to find php5-imap - imap module but there is any package with this name. is there any other way to compile php for imap manualy?01:27
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fre1do "php5 imap ubuntu" on google, first link. it may help01:28
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Nickaythanks fre101:31
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richardh_Hi, I'm having trouble getting k3b to work...on dapper, with all updates installed01:32
richardh_anyone have a similar problem?01:33
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richardh_hmm01:34
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londondave hi I recently built a driver for an adsl modem with kernel 2.6.15-25, after the automatic upgrade to 2.6.15-26 I rebuilt the driver with the linux headers for the new kernel and the driver as symbol errors?01:37
thykohow do i customize the 'login screen'?01:38
thykothe one with the huge 'Kubuntu' written on it?01:38
thykologin manager is unable to change it01:38
londondaveI can't understand why the modem won't work with the new kernel?01:39
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Nickayfre1: when i am trying to download the php5-imap get error: Could;n find package php5-imap01:39
thykolondondave: mybe it chaged the device name?01:39
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thykoso the kernel has attached the modem to another device name in /dev01:40
londondavethyko: when I look at the log it complains about symbols not matching, it does see it but won't work?01:41
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Redei installed samba which allowed me to share folders with konqueror via windows networking, what do i need to install to allow nfs?01:41
thykosymbols? hmmm ...01:41
thykoNickay: what does 'apt-cache search php | grep imap' give you?01:42
londondaveIts the ueagle-atm driver, I compiled it with the new headers did depmod -a and rebooted, still no joy01:42
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londondavethyko: and yet the same process worked for 2.6.15-25 kernel01:42
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richardh_anyone know of a K3b permissions bug?01:43
thykolondondave: symbold have something to do with gcc, its a little complicated, and i'm not quite sure how to fix that one01:43
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thykogoogle for it?01:44
Nickaythyko:php5-imap01:44
londondavethyko: wouldn't the update have installed a new gcc or do you think maybe this new kernel has problems with gcc-ueagle compiled no problems and installed ok?01:45
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Redei upgraded my kernel via adept but when it loads it just displays the black kubuntu screen. i believe this is because i dont have the linux-restricted-modules-etc package for the new kernel. for now i just chose the older kernel in the grub menu01:50
Redecan i fix this simply or is it easier to just wait for a package?01:51
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snikkerhow can i remove the last two zereos in a number with sed command?01:55
klerfaytso if suse uses "patches" for konqueror smooth scrolling does it mean that in kubuntu it isn't possible to use it?01:55
chavoklerfayt, nothing is impossible01:56
londondaverichardh_: k3b needs to run as root, but there is a utilty that comes with it that sorts that out before you use it as a normal user01:57
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eriksonhowdy01:58
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eriksontrying to set up a network USB printer that's connected a windows pc in another area ...this pc and the windows pc are on the same router ...the network works very well in windows , sharing files etc.... any ideas . I've tried the wizard but no luck .02:01
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londondaveerikson: you need samba for that I think02:05
eriksontried it02:06
londondaveerikson: samba was no good?02:07
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eriksonwhat's the procedure for samba ?02:10
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londondaveerikson: does linux see your windows machine on the network?02:11
dAbReAkAi used a file "drivemounter" yesterday - "sudo bash drivemounter" and my drives got easily mounted.. anyone know where i could get it now?02:11
eriksonno, don't think so02:11
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Jack1hi02:13
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Jack1how can i configure the kwallet, where is it stored in the kmenu?02:13
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londondaveerikson: so the printer is connected to the network or to the windows machine02:16
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eriksonto a windows machine02:17
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kOpterYello.. I'm working on an Icon set.. And I'm looking for a png to svg convertor.. does this exist?02:18
londondaveerikson: have you told windows u want to share it? My networking skills are basic, but it sounds like you have it installed as a local printer on the windows box02:20
eriksonI use it as a network printer from this box ..It's a dual boot window/linux , so I can print on the other pc from here in windows02:21
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londondaveerikson: linux will need to be connected to the win machine on the network with samba and then it should see the printer02:22
eriksonlondondave: so samba should be set up first .02:23
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londondaveerikson: yes get samba working so you can see the linux machine from the windows box and vise versa and then you should be able to see the printer from linux02:26
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londondaveJack1:on mine the wallet as a little icon in the sys tray and I can configure from there02:29
eriksonwhere is samba located ?02:29
londondaveerikson: what do you mean?02:29
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philipp__im trying to install a driver froml exmark, but the self extracting shell script thingie echoes a usage message for the program 'trap'02:32
londondaveerikson: windows uses system message block protocol to communicate on a network, hence the name SaMBa, you need to install it and configure it-there's loads of howto's on that02:32
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londondave!samba02:32
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:32
philipp__anyone know how to get the gzip stuff out of the file?02:32
eriksonlondondave: SMB shared printers (Windows) ?02:32
londondavephilipp__: whats the file name02:32
philipp__hold on02:32
philipp__lexmarkz35-CUPS-2.0-1.gz.sh02:32
philipp__(i need it for the lexmark z25 usb printer)02:33
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londondavethats a shell file: type file lexmark... in konsole and see what it says02:33
londondaveto unzip it you will need to rename it with the '.sh' bit and use gzip -d02:34
londondavebut it dosent sound like you should02:34
philipp__huh?02:35
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philipp__i already know that its a shell script02:35
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londondavephilipp__: I'm thinking it shouldn't be unziped but if you rename it and do gzip -d filename it will unzip it02:36
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philipp__it will? even tho it has shell script stuff in front?02:37
philipp__ah i think i made it02:37
philipp__tail +143 lexmarkz35-1.0-1.gz.sh | gunzip | tar xvof - <-- that helped02:38
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londondaveerikson: didn't get that02:38
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wosheehello02:42
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philipp__argh02:42
abattoirwoshee: hi02:42
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wosheeI don't manage to change the size of my icons in my main taskbar... the option seems to be unavailable in my icons window...02:43
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philipp__what package has files /usr/lib/libtcl?.?.so or /usr/lib/libtk?.?.so?02:44
philipp__tcltk or something?02:44
abattoirphilipp__: i'd guess so, w/ a devel on it ;)02:45
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v|p3rhi !02:45
philipp__heh ok02:45
abattoirwoshee: you mean the kicker?02:45
fre1adept cant look for files in pkg ?02:45
philipp__stupid driver crap :(02:45
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v|p3rall the time I opened the konkeror i got this error "Cannot find parent item file:///home in the tree"02:46
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wosheeabattoir: the kicker? I mean the icons you put to launch apps from the bar02:46
philipp__why does a driver need tcltk installed? i only need one tiny file for CUPS :o02:46
v|p3rany ideas?02:47
fre1try "cd ~" or "cd $HOME" to see if it works02:48
philipp__just cd puts you to  ~ as well02:48
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fre1then do "ls -ld ~" to see if it is ok02:48
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v|p3rfre1: u say that to me?02:49
fre1yep02:50
fre1i dont put your name in front of it because of the |02:50
v|p3rfre1: where u want to do the ln ?02:50
fre1too hard to type and my tab completion is failling02:50
v|p3rfre1: ok np02:50
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fre1you type the command i gave you in a console02:51
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v|p3rif i do a cd ~ take me to my $home02:51
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v|p3rdrwxr-xr-x 83 viper viper 4096 2006-07-13 11:02 /home/viper02:52
v|p3rsee02:52
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fre1hmm well everyhting seems nice02:54
fre1so i dunno :)02:54
fre1the next steps would be to see the kde conf and i dunno how to do that02:55
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timonatorwow02:56
timonatorthe installer needs gcc02:56
timonatorand compiles itself02:56
timonatorjust for a graphical frontend02:56
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Tallia1Kubuntuwhere can i get the sourcecode for clock applet? i would like to add a simple alarm, directly in the contextual menu of right click, for fast settings..... kalarm is too complicated for me!!03:00
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v|p3rthnxz fre1 anyway03:01
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HobbseeTallia1Kubuntu: kclock?  apt-get source kclock03:07
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matlechi03:09
Kwukkihello03:09
Kwukkii seek a deb for kopete 0.12.103:09
Kwukkiicq bug in 0.1203:10
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matlecis there any kubuntu developer in this channel?03:11
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ThunderStruckmatlec: they might be busy atm what is it you need?03:13
Kwukkiis trhere a deb avaible somewhereN03:13
Kwukkiplease....03:13
KwukkiI can't compile it03:13
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satafterhI read that Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake) has DMA automatically enabled for drives that support it. What about ultra dma?03:14
matlecThunderStruck: I'm just thinking about writing a module to support multiple sound cards in kubuntu03:14
matlecThunderStruck: and so I got to know if I should base a new project on qt403:14
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Kwukkichecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!03:16
KwukkiFor more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.03:16
aegeanlinuxinstall qt-dev03:16
Kwukkipackage?03:17
centyxKwukki: why don't you apt-get source kopete, apply the patch to fix the problem, and build the package03:17
KwukkiHow?03:17
centyxKwukki: apt-get install qt-dev03:17
Kwukkii'm a noob....03:17
Kwukkinope03:17
matlecmaybe I should contact the kde guys since it may be of use for all kde users...03:17
centyxoh03:17
centyxlibqt4-dev?03:18
Kwukkipackage is not avaible03:18
centyxlibqt3-dev?03:18
centyxwhichever one you need03:18
matlecdoesn't harm to install them both03:18
centyxKwukki: learn you use apt-cache search someword | less03:18
centyxKwukki: s/you/to/03:18
Kwukkii can't install libqt3-dev03:18
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matlecwhy not?03:20
Kwukki srry, i can't give you the errors,03:20
Kwukkimy english isn't very good....03:20
matleccan you paste the output?03:21
Kwukkiwait03:22
Kwukkidpkg: ontleedfout, in bestand `/var/lib/dpkg/status' bij regel 107905 pakket `blt':03:22
Kwukki veldnaam `Provides2' moet gevolgd worden door een dubbele punt03:22
KwukkiE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)03:22
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Kwukkihow can i fix it?03:23
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fenderhi03:26
Kwukkihi03:26
fenderhere english or spanish03:26
hunterhello everybody03:26
hunterguess english03:26
fender:s03:26
aegeanlinuxhunter: what?03:26
matlecKwukki: sorry, I thought the output was English :o)03:26
hunterdoes anyone knows how to setup a firewall  on kubuntu?03:27
Kwukkino, but you can guess what it means03:27
Kwukkierror in `/var/lib/dpkg/status', rule 107905, package blt03:27
matlecKwukki: that doesn't help me either, sorry03:27
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Kwukkican i 'rebuild' that file?03:28
mattnashhunter: You want iptables.03:28
fenderwhere have a irc server in spanish03:28
hunteryes03:28
fenderi have a problem in my kubuntu03:28
v3ctor!es03:28
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:28
richardh_Hi...I used k3bsetup to settle permission issues, but I still can't burn because cdrecord doesn't have the necessary rights to open the device....anyone?03:28
fenderthank you03:28
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mattnashhunter:  The iptables syntax is complex and frustrating.  I suggest reading a book on it, unless someone else here has a better, freer resource for iptables.03:29
v3ctorguarddog is a pretty good easy to use frontend for iptables03:29
centyxmattnash: it's not really that bad...03:29
huntermattnash: Ok ..thanks.. just one more thing03:30
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mattnashcentyx: I am just afraid of breaking everything with it.03:30
Kwukkimatlec : can i rebuild that file?03:30
huntermattnash: do you know if firestarter uses iptables?03:30
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v3ctoryes it does03:30
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huntercool03:30
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SheaTaraam I the only one who has observed artsd having a memory leak?03:31
v3ctoryes03:31
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SheaTarahow comforting03:32
hunterI have just installed kubuntu here..  where can I find pages saying how to install stuff ( where to find repositories with more stuff etc)?03:32
hunterthe links and stuff03:32
SheaTara!apt03:32
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto - also see !synaptic (gnome) or !adept (kde)03:32
SheaTara!adept03:32
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto03:32
centyx!repos03:32
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource03:32
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SheaTarahunter: ta-da!03:32
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simohola03:33
simohello03:33
SheaTara!es03:33
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:33
hunterthanks but i need the repos to put in my sources.list03:33
centyxheh03:33
SheaTarasimo: okay, english too -- you can stay :D03:34
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hunterroot@hunter-desktop:/home/hunter# apt-get install kd3-mp303:34
hunterReading package lists... Done03:34
hunterBuilding dependency tree... Done03:34
hunterE: Couldn't find package kd3-mp303:34
SheaTarahunter: that would be k3b not kd303:34
SheaTarahunter: sudo apt-get install k3b-mp303:35
hunteroops03:35
hunterstill03:35
hunterE: Couldn't find package k3b-mp303:35
SheaTara!restrictedformats03:35
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:35
SheaTara!mp303:35
SheaTaraahem, ubotu?03:36
SheaTara!mp303:36
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:36
SheaTaraoh-- same thing03:36
erikson!Samba03:36
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT03:36
hunteri need the repos links to add in my soures list.. can anyone ?03:36
SheaTara!universe03:37
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource03:37
hunterthere u go03:37
hunterthanks03:37
SheaTarahunter: or, on the one that has deb archive ubuntu stuff, add universe at the end03:37
v3ctor!easysource03:38
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:38
SheaTarahunter: change deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main03:38
SheaTarahunter: to deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main universe multiverse restricted03:39
hunterok03:39
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hunterthanks everyone.03:48
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timonatornow i unpacked the rpm file manually and got a couple of files. .lut files, .a files, .la files, .so files, .h, and .out04:01
timonatorwhat to do with them?04:01
dr_willisthats sort of vague04:02
timonatorwell, hold on04:03
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timonatorhttp://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/117604:04
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v3ctortimonator: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=119603704:06
timonator:/04:06
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grotheskHallo!04:10
grotheskTunepimp (MusicBrainz Tag-Bibliothek) meldet den folgenden Fehler: ".mp3 is not a supported filetype.".04:10
grotheskWo bekomm ich denn eine libtunepimp fr kubuntu mit mp3 support her?04:10
v3ctor!de04:11
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de04:11
grotheskSorry! *g*04:11
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v3ctorno problem04:11
grotheskWhere may I get a version of libtunepimp with mp3 support?04:11
v3ctorhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-29370.html04:13
huntermy kernel was compiled with gcc version 4.0.3, is it ok to use gcc-4.0 to compile my programs ?04:13
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hunterand also g++-4.004:14
v3ctorgrothesk: http://sitr.us/blog/files/libtunepimp2c2a_0.3.0-9.1ubuntu4_i386.deb04:14
h3sp4wnhunter: does gcc -v (list 4.03)04:14
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grotheskv3ctor: Kudos!04:14
hunterI didn't istall it yet04:15
hunterinstall*04:15
hunterbut doing a cat /proc/version i see that my kernel was compiled with gcc version 4.0.304:15
timonatorv3ctor: any hints on this error message? "ERROR: Unable to open printer port "/usr/lib/cups/backend/z35": Text file busy"04:15
v3ctortimonator: no...i just found that earlier and i need to try it when i get home from work04:16
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timonatoryou also have a z25?04:16
v3ctoryes04:16
timonatorhow long will it take for you to come home & online? :)04:16
hunteri guess i wont have much problems when compiling with it right04:16
v3ctortimonator: i think it has something to do with the step earlier when they have you run it04:17
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timonator--> /usr/lib/cups/backend/z35 <-- this worked04:17
timonatorand the output was OK, too04:17
hunterow good i just installed the 4.0 and after doing a gcc -v i shows version 4.0.304:17
hunterweird04:17
timonatorgoing to restart now, busy stuff can be made unbusy04:18
v3ctortimonator: 6 hours till i get home to work on it...at least04:18
timonatoroh04:18
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timonatorokay...04:18
timonatorcu then i hope!04:18
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timonatorbrb04:18
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timonatorv3ctor: i found a reboot to not help with the busy error message04:24
timonatormaybe replugging the printer04:24
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gemidjyanyone has ATI 9200 SE ?04:24
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londondaveHi all, what's it mean when the wallet icon changes to open in the sys tray?04:25
gemidjythat u are starting to get stucked with the workst privacy keeper ever, KWallet04:25
londondavegemidjy: do you think kwallet is no good?04:26
gemidjyyes04:26
gemidjybut that is my personal opinion04:26
londondavegemidjy: so when it changes to open what's that for04:26
gemidjychanges to open ?04:26
gemidjythat it is openned04:26
gemidjy:))04:26
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grothesklondondave: It idicates that some aplication is using it right now.04:27
londondavegrothesk: thanks, the only app that seems to keep it open is kopete04:27
grothesklondondave: Not surprisingly. It contains your logins to the IM-Servers.04:28
londondavegrothesk: but kmail dosen't though04:29
grotheskkmail does not keep login in into the mail server.04:29
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londondavegrothesk: thanks, I think I get it now04:31
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neuron_hey04:35
RogueXHello04:36
neuron_i accidenaly shift deleted a wrong folder04:36
neuron_is there any way i could get it back04:36
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dr_willisEwww04:36
v3ctorneuron_: restore from backup04:36
RogueXNone of the GL screen savers work.  Any ideas?04:36
dr_willisset up the video card drivers for your system.04:37
dr_willis!ati04:37
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:37
neuron_and if i have no backup?04:37
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RogueXI installed Nvidia drivers04:37
HobbseeRogueX: install kscreensaver-xsavers04:38
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RogueXHobbsee: I have those installed04:38
HobbseeRogueX: sure?  got rss-glx installed as well?04:38
Hobbseeif you've got those two installed, add xscreensaver-gl, and restart the system settings.04:38
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neuron_is there any way of restoring a folder without a backup?04:40
timonatorv3ctor: the error didnt prevent me from printing, it works now, thanks!04:40
gemidjyWhen I use 'fglrx' as driver (ati 9200, kubuntu dapper), and type 'glxinfo04:40
v3ctorneuron_: did you check trash:/ in konqueror?04:40
gemidjysorry04:40
v3ctortimonator: great04:40
gemidjypastebin is slowwwwww04:40
RogueXHobbsee: dont have rss-glx installed04:41
h3sp4wnuse pastebin.co.uk04:41
gemidjyWhen I use 'fglrx' as driver (ati 9200, kubuntu dapper), and type 'glxinfo' I get this: http://pastebin.ca/8810004:41
v3ctortimonator: guess i can look foraward to my printer working  tonight ;)04:41
neuron_v3ctor: i shitft deleted, so its not in there04:41
HobbseeRogueX: rss-glx provides decent openGL screensavers - you probably want to install it04:41
v3ctorneuron_: then it it gone04:41
HobbseeRogueX: the screensaver stuff is very screwy.04:41
neuron_darn, okay04:41
gemidjyhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185033 seems to have answer04:41
timonatorv3ctor: yep. and if not i can help you *lol*04:42
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v3ctori will hold you to that04:42
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timonatorv3ctor: ;)04:44
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ranunculoidWhich package do I need to install/update to be able to play FLACs in amarok (this is driving me nuts)04:45
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hunterhow do I give permissions so that root can open graphical programs? I keep getting this error : (Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server)04:46
CarNagEI want to print something using lp but it tells me "Error - no default destination available". What can I do to use my cups-printer?04:46
eriksonwhen I use the print setup wizard is the "SMB network Windows Printer" option using Samba ?...it says in the options list that it's using the "cups' system ....is this a conflict ?04:46
Philip5hunter: : xhost + (and any host can open x-apps from that user)04:47
Philip5hunter: to limit it read on xhost04:47
hunterxhost + root04:47
hunterXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server04:47
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Philip5hunter: xhost isn't user based but hostbased04:48
svivian!seen DaSkreech04:48
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ubotuI last saw DaSkreech (n=Me@208.138.25.107) 10h 47m 21s ago, quiting: Connection timed out04:48
RogueXOK I installed rss-glx and xscreensaver-gl and no luck.. none of the GL screensavers work since I installed Nvidia drivers04:49
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ranunculoidCan someone please tell me how to play FLACs?04:49
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charlie5does anyone use etherboot ?04:50
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hunterbut after I run (: xhost +) in my bash it says  Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server, Xlib: No protocol specified04:50
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hunterstill returns that04:51
Philip5hunter: are you doing it as the loged in user and not root?04:51
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hunterdoin it in root04:51
RogueXHunter: I have been trying that too.. it has something to do with the Xhost server not listening on port 6000 anymore I thinkkkk04:51
Philip5hunter: don't04:51
Philip5hunter: you do it as the user that want to share X04:51
Philip5or rather Xsession04:52
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hunterok, just did :xhost + as normal user , but after I log in as root to run the graphical program it still return that error message04:52
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huntercannot connect to X server :0.004:53
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Philip5hunter: are you doing it in the same shell?04:53
hunteryes04:53
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RogueXThe Xhost server is not listening on port 6000 for security so you can not connect to it..04:54
h3sp4wnUse kdesu if you need to run graphical programs as root04:54
hunterI works when I do sudo <app> as normal user04:54
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Philip5hunter: works for me04:54
hunterbut not directly from root04:54
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Philip5should work for you :)04:55
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hunterweird04:55
timonatorunique_nickname: nice nickname04:55
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unique_nicknamecan't think of something unique04:56
Philip5hunter: i login as usuall.... start konsole and type: 'xhost +' and then 'su' after that i can as root use i.e kate04:56
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hunterin my other shell when I run " :xhost +" it says command not gound04:56
hunterfound *04:56
Philip5hunter: no :04:57
hunter?04:57
notamisfitjust xhost + no colon04:57
Philip5yes04:57
Philip5xhost +04:58
Philip5not :xhost +04:58
timonatorxhost +localhost04:58
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hunterafter xhost + returns Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server04:59
hunteri dont know what Im doing wrong its such a simple thing04:59
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hunterI've done it before but can't remember04:59
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Philip5hunter: neither can i :)05:00
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hunterI restarted my shell and tried again , now it returns : acces control disbled, clients can connect from any host05:02
huntereither in normal user or root05:03
Philip5hunter: that's better05:03
Philip5try a x app now05:03
ranunculoidDoes anybody know how to enable flac support?05:03
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Philip5ranunculoid: install flac libs?05:04
hunterso do you know how to fix it?05:04
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Philip5hunter: doesn't it work now then?05:04
ranunculoidPhilip5: Which libs are those? I want to play flac in amarok05:04
Philip5after that message05:04
lin-piohi05:05
ranunculoidhi05:05
lin-pioanyone speaking spanish or french?05:05
ranunculoid!fr05:05
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:05
ranunculoid!es05:05
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:05
ranunculoid:)05:05
hunteryes! now it worked05:05
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lin-pioubotu: merci, gracias05:05
ubotuI know nothing about merci, gracias - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu05:05
ranunculoidlol05:06
lin-pioXD05:06
hunterI did xhost +005:06
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Philip5hunter: congrats05:07
hunterthanks Philip505:07
Philip5np05:07
RogueXHunter:  What did you do to get it working?05:07
RogueXOr better how?05:08
hunterI did a xhost +0 from normal user05:08
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RogueXok then what?05:08
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ranunculoidIt cant be hard to play FLAC in amarok, I mean it's a free format - Does nobody here know how??05:09
RogueXhunter: then what?05:10
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R3post.05:11
RogueXPhilip5: ?  help?05:12
R3postWitam , moe kto mi powiedzie jaka jest komenda aby zkonwertowa plik formatu .bz2 na format .deb05:12
alfredrosegarden4 anyone get that to make sound?05:12
RogueXhunter:?05:12
ranunculoid!pl05:12
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alfredand not crach too05:12
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl05:12
R3postsory that not polish05:12
ranunculoid!ru05:13
hunterthen its working05:13
ubotuPozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help05:13
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RogueXHunter: I did the xhost +005:14
RogueXHunter: now what did you do?05:14
berubhello. Something very strange is going on here: I locked my session (never did that before) and cannot log back in, into that session.05:15
hunternothin.. it just works now05:15
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RogueXHunter: what app did you run then??05:16
hunterI ran a kommander app05:17
hunterbut anyone works05:17
scott_heym, anyone know if/how in amarok you can create smart playlists which can be put onto your ipod?05:17
berubdoes anyone know how I can unlock that session (as root)?05:17
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hunterRogueX: Are you having the same problem?05:23
berkesyay. found it.05:23
RogueXhunter:yes05:23
berubsudo killall kdesktop_lock did the trick05:23
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hunterRogueX: Close and open your shell, then type "xhost +0" and "xhost +1" then log in as root and try to open a graphical app05:24
hunterit worked for me05:25
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ajayerikson: yo!05:27
ajayerikson: ping05:29
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Philip5hunter: did he get it working too?05:32
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JRH3K5Say I want to run a streaming server that has password and login protection, and can be run with Windows Media Player on a remote machine.05:34
JRH3K5What would you recommend I use?05:34
Admiral_proFTWJRH3K5, samba?05:34
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JRH3K5This is a remote machine outside of the router05:35
Admiral_proFTWactually no, you don't want samba05:36
JRH3K5Though I do have Samba configured05:36
Admiral_proFTWmaybe Apache05:36
v3ctorapache + .htaccess ?05:36
JRH3K5I basically want to be able to set a playlist running, go to work, and use WMP to listen to the playlist05:36
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JohnFluxJRH3K5: I think amarok supports streaming05:40
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mads_can someone please tell me from step to step , how i manage to reinstall my win os , what i need help for is to make a good partion. I have tried much , but always ends up with the same result : grub , error 17 , when win is trying to boot after reinstall. i have absolute nothing on my hd that may not be deleted , so a format would do it too, i just dont know how. have tried terminal: fdisk , but cant manage to get it to work. my plan is  to get os xp reins05:42
mads_y os and then ubuntu as primary.05:42
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mindspincfdisk05:43
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mads_what parametes must i use there after?05:43
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mindspinnone, its interactive05:44
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svivianmads_: You need to install Windows first, as the first partition on the disk. Leave room for Ubuntu further out on the disk. Then install Ubuntu. It should work, and will automatically boot into Ubuntu as the primary OS05:45
mindspinand kinda selfexplaining05:45
dr_willisleave a section of the hard drive unallocated - and the isntaller should see and partition/set that size up.05:46
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sproingieanyone know how to make drag-and-drop from konqueror work in digikam?05:47
sproingieit gives me all kinds of errors about unknown protocols05:47
mads_okay, thanks , i give it a shot. hope it will work. Have a good eve.05:47
xerocan anyone help me with wpa_supplicant? i've installed it, but it just couldn't connect because of the authentication timeout05:47
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sproingieoh hey now it doesn't give me errors, but silently does nothing05:48
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Philip5JRH3K5: i would check out a streamer engine like icecast, shoutcast or litestream... maybe have a look at muse too05:52
Philip5or a mod to apache would do it too05:53
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mads_when i do cfdisk it replies Fatal Error , cant open device05:54
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thomasjava-package problem: i cant find the the package! universe and multiverse is enebled :/05:56
thomasi am using 6.06 lts05:56
mads_so if i start all over : first i install ubuntu yes? how must i set up the partion so that os xp will se it when i want to install it again ?05:56
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CntryboyTo use xgl what exactly is xserver-xgl package05:57
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Philip5thomas: which java package?05:59
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mads_i could relly need to get back the option to boot xp , so i need to get a clean disk that wont have any interfearing software on it. i cant get xp to boot anymore due to the install of ubuntu. doing a reinstall of xp results in an error 17 when i try to boot it .06:00
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thomasPhilip5: "java-package" for fakeroot make-jpkg jdk....06:02
thomasPhilip5: "java-package" for fakeroot make-jpkg jdk*.bin06:03
Philip5thomas: is it suns jdk you want?06:03
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svivianmads_: You need to install Windows first, as the first partition on the disk. Leave room for Ubuntu further out on the disk. Then install Ubuntu. It should work, and will automatically boot into Ubuntu as the primary OS06:04
thomasPhilip5: yes, the sund jdk06:05
svivianmads_: XP doesn't like to know that there are any other OS on the disk. That's why it has to go in first on a clean disk06:05
thomas-d06:05
Philip5thomas: apt-get install sun-java5-jdk06:06
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mads_must i reinstall ubuntu first make some partions there like fat32 and nf.. and then from ubuntu choose cfdisk those ? i have tried partion it before hoping xp would see it as an individual disk , but it only offered me to install on entire internal hd, and i did accept that, but then it is that it comes with error 17. when i install win it doesnt offer me any partion it is sort of a "recovery" install 4*disk . ok so if i install xp and then ubuntu , then yo06:07
mads_an if i decide not to swipe the whole hd when installing ubuntu ? what must i chose in the partion setup in ubuntu install then ?06:07
Philip5thomas: and they are in multiverse so you need to have that enabled in source.list06:10
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mads_i cant boox xp even thoug i choose to make a complete swipe off06:10
thomasPhilip5: thank you06:10
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svivianmads_: Put the XP install CD in, boot into setup. Format the drive. Then, using the utilities in Windows setup, make a partition on the blank disk for XP. Leave room for your later Ubuntu install, but don't format that space. Then install XP. Once XP is in and running, load Ubuntu. You can format the Linux partitions through it. GRUB should see XP, and automatically include it in the boot menu06:11
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Philip5thomas: np06:13
mads_booting xp cd leaves me only with one option : recovery. it doesnt let me manuelly set up anything , and wehn i reboot it ends with grub error 17. option alt+f10 doesnt work. im sorry to be a burden , but  i have installed and uninstalled ubuntu and xp so many many times the last 1,2 day.06:14
svivianmads_: Do you have a real XP Cd or is it the OEM cd from your PC manufacturer06:15
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mads_the last06:15
mads_it was preinstalld and offered me to make a back up 1st time i ran it06:16
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svivianmads_: That's going to make it harder. You'll probably need a bootable disk utility that can go in and divide up the disk. Alternatively, you can buy a second hard drive, let the OEM CD use up the original drive (as it almost certainly will), then put in the new HD, start the Ubuntu install, and put Ubuntu on the new HD06:17
slow-motionhallo06:17
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mads_well i have an external hd with room enough for ubuntu . my problem is that i cant make the xp work at all. it does say source and target : fat 32 etc , and it does clean allmost everything from the disk , but then when i have installed xp , press ok to reboot it is coming with the Error 17.06:19
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svivianmads_: is there a particular reason you still want to hang onto Windows?06:20
mads_hehe06:20
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Kristophehi everybody, I have lots of photos, and want to print them easily 2 photos per page... Is there anything simpler than kword/ooffice out there??06:22
mads_well i must admit that i do like the ubuntu very much , i still would like to have the option of using windows too. after all i have a rather big collection of programs to it (tes mainly freeware but wellsorted) , and i think it will give my selfesteem a boost to actually know what im doing now and then + the fact that , well im never afraid of crashing my com , but i would be prouder of myself if i actually could get it back to somekind normal06:23
svivianmads_: the easiest thing might be to download a floppy image of a 98 boot disk. That should have fdisk on it which you can use to truly wipe the HD. Then you can do a clean install of XP. I suspect the old MBR is hosed on your disk, so you will need to completely wipe it and reinstall. Once you have a good Windows MBR, you can do the Ubuntu install, and GRUB will properly take over the MBR without breaking it.06:23
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mads_ok is thre an image burner in the full package ? i can ofcourse hear if one of the ppl i know has an old win 98 install cd.06:25
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mads_but im glad to hear it is so complicated, it indicated that i probably havent done anything wrong except chosing wrong install setup the 1st tie. think i will leave it for now , using the ubuntu throug out the weekend and see how it goes. its just that i dont even know how to install programs plugins codecs or anything what so ever06:27
timonatorhow do i downgrade a packet with adept?06:27
mads_ok so i will get the best out of it ..06:29
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mads_if i would like to watch an divx or xvid then i must get some codecs or plugins, how do i install those ? i mean there is not an executeable file along is there ? im comparing to eg klite codec pack .06:30
mads_:] 06:31
Hawkwindmads_: Use apt-get install06:32
mads_doesnt ubuntu support extended desktop (dual screen) ?06:32
mads_ok thanks06:32
Hawkwindmads_: For example, apt-get install w32codecs and so on06:32
mads_i write it down on a paper06:32
Hawkwindmads_: Yes.  I have dual screens with Nvidia06:32
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h3sp4wnmads_: which driver ?06:33
mads_where do i see that ?06:33
ThunderStruckHawkwind: when did w32codecs get into apt?06:33
mads_the driver*06:34
mads_i mean it worked ok on os xp06:34
HawkwindThunderStruck: It's in PLF and always has been06:34
ThunderStruckah yes not an official one sorry06:34
HawkwindPLF is official in many ways.  It's just not legal to put it into the distro itself06:34
mads_hey06:35
Hawkwindmads_: Do you have an ATI or Nvidia card ?06:35
mads_i would think ATI06:35
mads_sounds more familiar06:35
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HawkwindWell you need to know for sure what card you have.06:36
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mads_the link www.mplayerhq.hu that popped up when i first ran caffeine player does it offer w32 codecs ?06:36
mads_ok hang on i find the manual to the com and check06:36
mads_sorry bout the spam diddnt intend to06:36
recklessvmads_: might be easier for you to just use easyubuntu to install what you need06:37
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mads_ok is it an option here in ubuntu ? i chose add progs and selected about all except the games06:38
recklessvhttp://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/06:39
mads_i think my card is intel gma 90006:39
mads_thanks06:39
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mads_its like the driver installed doesnt recognize my external monitor , the resoulution is very low without option to change it.06:41
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oktohello all06:42
oktodoes anyone use xine-ui in Kubuntu/Ubuntu?06:43
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dr_willis!fixres06:43
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:43
oktoMy xine-ui menu fonts is too large..i can't find any way to change it06:44
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thomasbye06:45
mads_thanks06:46
oktoI tried xine-ui in Knoppix live cd and the fonts is smaller....i've looked at the config but no entry whatsoever about the menu fonts06:46
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qwertybobive got konqueror crashing anytime i click on a link06:46
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PupenoI know there's a cups running on some ip on my network, but I don't remember the ip (and I don't have access to that computer). How can I find it ?06:46
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qwertybobshould i use 64 version of kubuntu or will 32 bit version work about same on amd?06:47
mads_ok , im off for supper. I am looking forward to learn the system better :]  . BBL06:47
mads_thanks for all the help06:47
qwertybobit seems any of the links in cnn crash konqueror06:48
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Pupenodoes anybody know off-hand how to map a network and find out all the ips with port 661 open (with nmap or something like that).06:49
hunterwhats the proper way of accessing a cdrom on kubuntu?06:50
mads_one more ting , safe removal of hardware (ext. hd's usb mem sticks etc.) is there any option of that ?06:50
hunteris there a way of mounting it without being root?06:50
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hunteranyone?06:51
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hunterafter inserting the disc in the drive it doesnt show up in my media list06:52
dr_willisodd. it should pop up a window.06:52
hunterI guess kubuntu doesn't come with automount am I right?06:52
hunterwell it didn't do anything06:52
oktoHello.....anyone use xine-ui in Kubuntu/Ubuntu?06:52
oktoMy xine-ui menu fonts is too large..i can't find any way to change it06:52
oktoi've looked at the config but no entry whatsoever about the menu fonts06:53
hunterokto: try installing totem-xine06:53
h3sp4wnmads_: Safe removal ? If you don't unmount it you will lose data06:53
dr_willisit hoya could always edit the fstab and mount it manually06:53
oktothat is for totem right? I prefer xine-ui06:54
oktohunter: that is for totem right? I prefer xine-ui06:54
mads_ok i see , it is the last option when i right cliick on a device yes ? i run danish language set up06:54
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hunterokto: yes06:54
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hunterthat bad point is that it will probably need gnome libs06:55
oktoxine-ui in knoppix is much better, smaller and proportional fonts06:55
hunterokto: I agree06:55
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oktohunter: are you using breezy or dapper, default breezy known to have this problem, not dapper06:56
hunterokto: how did you install it?06:56
londondavehi all, I get a problem now and then with ktorrent, sometimes it creates 15 or kioslaves. the hard drive races and the system freezes up?06:57
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hunterokto: well I got the latest version I guess its dapper right?06:57
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oktohunter: i installed it apt-get install xine-ui from konsole06:57
hunterokto: I just installed that way here and its all fine.. try removing any hidden file of xine from your home user and install it again06:58
qwertybobcan anyone confirm if clicking on links on cnn casues konqueror crash?06:59
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qwertybobi just upgraded motherboard and cpu to AMD 6406:59
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hunterokto: maybe its not a problem with xine-ui at all07:00
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oktohunter: i've tried to install it many times but the fonts in the menu is still too big, if you click the menu--settings--setup you see that the fonts takes too much space, at least in my case07:01
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oktoqwertybob: i confirmed, it crashed big time07:02
qwertybobi know cnn.com links go to offsite07:02
qwertybobokto: its because it loads images from outside server07:02
qwertybobi think07:02
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hunterokto: yes it looks little weird here 2 but its readable07:02
qwertybobokto: somehow i need to enable outside image links07:03
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hunterI can't mount my cd could anyone help me?07:03
huntermount: you must specify the filesystem type07:03
hunterafter : m07:03
huntermount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0/07:04
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oktohunter: now you see it, it looks better in Knoppis, even in Xandros...is xine-ui is gtk or gtk+ app?07:04
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oktohunter: put "t-  iso9660" also07:05
huntermount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc07:06
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oktohunter: did u use ..mount /dev/hdxx /media/cdrom0 -t iso9660...type mount in konsole to check07:07
hunterokto: Im not sure but if you change its settings the fonts will probably go back to normal07:07
hunterokto: yes I did07:08
hunterokto: the fstab line is like this: /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       007:08
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hunterokto: its a dvd burner but i guess it doesnt metter07:09
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hunterokto: Is your linux ubuntu or kubuntu?07:11
hunterokto: In gnome I guess its alrite but here in kde it sounds dead07:11
oktohunter;  mine is like this /dev/hdc  /media/cdrom0  udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0 0 and its the only cdrom...i have kubuntu07:12
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hunterokto: And does it work fine there?07:13
oktoif you have the ubuntu/kubuntu in the same machine the program to mount/umount is the same for both, so i guess there should be no problem in kubuntu if you have it ok in gnome07:13
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hunterokto: I upgraded konqueror so maybe its something to do with that.. I will reboot my system and see what happens..07:14
hunterokto:thanks anyway07:14
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oktohunter: no problem, try to access system menu in kicker and click storage media, that is where your media should show up, diskettes, cdrom , usb disk, etc...clicking them will automatically mount and open the media in konqueror, you can also right click to moutn or umount07:16
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angasule!qt407:17
ubotuI know nothing about qt4 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:17
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angasuleare there any issues about installing qt4 on dapper? I see a long list of bugs but none seem too problematic (I want to use pyqt4)07:19
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hunterokto: now its working :)07:20
oktohunter: after u upgrade konqueror..or?07:22
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hunternope... i guess it wasn't working because I upgraded konqueror but didn't restart it07:23
oktoanyone with the fix to xine-ui menu fonts being too big?07:23
hunterbut now its up to date and working normally07:23
oktohunter: good then07:24
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angasuleare there any issues about installing qt4 on dapper? I see a long list of bugs but none seem too problematic (I want to use pyqt4)07:37
ubuntuhola07:37
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aghhola07:39
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aghcreo k no hay ningun espaol07:39
aghgoodbye07:39
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arsohello07:46
arsoi need help07:46
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notamisfitany help in particular?07:47
raymond_yes?07:47
raymond_wha's rong?07:47
arsoumm07:47
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arsoi had this problem last week some guy helped me, it worked07:47
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arsonow its back07:47
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felix_eriddell: koffice-latest still points to 1.5.1 - thanks :)07:47
arsoaccess denied on one of my partitions07:47
arsodoes konverrsation keep logs?07:47
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notamisfitwhich partition, which user, and what are the permissions?07:48
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peter84Hi there. Ive played a little with the kubuntu live cd. And i cant seem to find a wlan aplet similar to the one in ubuntu. Is it just me not looking?07:48
arsohdb5    ,  donno about the rest07:48
notamisfitpeter84: should be in KDE-menu>internet near the bottom07:49
aldoHi. Do you know how to restore the classic Ubuntu boot screen after installation of Kubuntu desktop?07:49
peter84An applet that stays in the bottom besides the clock?07:49
notamisfitnot sure07:49
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arsonotamisfit:  so07:50
notamisfitarso: have you tried to mount it by hand?07:50
peter84Its no problem setting up the card and get it running. But i kinda like, to have an applet telling me the strength of the signal07:50
arsonotamisfit:  no07:50
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notamisfitgive it a shot example: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb5 /media/hdb507:51
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notamisfitall the kernel stuff, obviously, and alsa if you've got it built-in07:51
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peter84Ohh and another thing. If i run install kde to in my ubuntu system, is there a way to remove all installed libs and stuff if i dont want it? I should use apptitude right?07:53
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h3sp4wnpeter84: If you install kubuntu-desktop with aptitude07:54
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h3sp4wnpeter84: Then remove it (with aptitude) it will take most of the stuff away07:54
peter84most??07:54
h3sp4wnIt will leave .kde in your home directory07:55
notamisfitrm -r takes care of that quite well07:55
peter84:-)07:55
peter84kay07:55
wilfredHhas anyone had any probs with the new koffice? it's asking for an updated version of kdelibs although mine is the latest available07:55
peter84you have been most helpfull thanks07:56
h3sp4wnpeter84: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop (to remove sudo aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop)07:56
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peter84Thanks07:57
h3sp4wnaptitude remove leaves configuration files whereas purge deletes them07:57
teknoprephey whats up fruitcakes07:57
peter84kay07:58
teknoprepde07:58
teknoprepe07:58
peter84The only thing i hate, is that i fills the menus in Gnome'07:58
peter84Have to clean up:-)07:59
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teknoprephow do i install a tgz ?08:01
Kadranhi how to assign a gateway in ifconfig, and how to relode the network?08:01
charlie5is there a way to get vendor info about an installed network card ?08:01
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Kadranteknoprep: try to use kompile, it is easy08:01
Kadrancharlie5: i guess macchanger can go it08:02
charlie5Kadran: thanks ... i'll try it out08:02
Kadrancharlie5: you can also google for the firset xx:xx:xx08:02
Kadranthey define the vendor08:03
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Kadranfrom the left08:03
charlie5Kadran: ah, that might be easier ... i don't seem to have macchanger08:03
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Kadrancharlie5: if you want it 'sudo apt-get install macchanger'08:04
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charlie5Kadran: thanks again ... i'm trying to work out the ether cards chipset for use with etherboot08:08
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RandomDude15hey alain08:09
alain2k5hey08:09
RandomDude15need help with anything?08:09
alain2k5yes, my sound doesnt work..08:09
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alain2k5and i cant seem to find alsa in adept08:09
alain2k5or oss08:09
RandomDude15hmmm.08:10
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alain2k5anyone help?08:11
arsowhen i try to unmound the drive i get "hdb5 is busy'"08:12
RandomDude15what kind of soundcard do you have?08:12
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alain2k5Realtek AC'9708:12
arsoanyone08:12
KristopheAnybody knows how to print lots of pictures, 2 per page, without having to do it page per page in oofice?08:12
RandomDude15so do I and I've never hda to install drivers08:13
RandomDude15*had08:13
RandomDude15expect in arch08:13
alain2k5chris h/o08:13
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alain2k5you are not helping08:17
alain2k5:-p08:17
RandomDude15the other people should08:17
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WharfHi there.08:19
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WharfAnyone know for a realy fast server i can download kubuntu dvd from?08:19
WharfAt about 500KBPS08:19
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h3sp4wnWharf: Where are you located ?08:20
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WharfUK bud08:20
WharfDoes it realy make a diffrence what country you download from?08:20
WharfUnited kindon08:21
Wharfkingdom*08:21
h3sp4wnOf course it does08:21
WharfAffects speed?08:21
h3sp4wnuk mirror service (i can get 3.2 megabytes per second from there - on a shell account)08:21
Philip5Wharf: sunet.se are usually pretty fast08:21
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Philip5alain2k5: have you solved your problem?08:22
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WharfDO YOU HAVE A URL BY ANY CHANCE?08:23
Wharf-caps08:23
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arsosomeone please help me08:25
arsoaccess denied when i copy/paste from a certain partition08:25
Philip5Wharf: how fast is this uk site then? http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/releases/6.06/release/kubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso08:25
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londondavearso: say that again, what are you trying to do08:26
Philip5arso: then you don't have permission to do it as that user08:26
arsolondondave:  hello, when i copy a file from a certain partition (hdb5) and paste it onto any other partition08:26
arsoi get access denied08:26
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arsoPhilip5:  so how do we deal with that08:26
arsoi wont it to be accessible to all users08:26
WharfPhilip5, didn't work for me08:27
Philip5arso: which dir are you trying to do it in?08:27
arsowat do u mean08:27
Philip5which directory are you trying to alter files in?08:27
Philip5might be a reason that is't secured08:27
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arsoanywhere in the partition08:28
arsothe whole partition08:28
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londondavearso: I can copy from win xp to linux should be just the same like 'cp /media/win_xp/theFile ./'08:28
Wharfthat server kept timing out for mwe08:28
Wharfme*08:28
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arsolondondave:  sorry, i am lost :(08:28
Philip5do you want it to be opened to anyone for anything? them chmod 777 /media/partition08:28
Philip5them=then08:28
londondavearso: how are you trying to it with a terminal like konsole08:29
londondavearso: how are you trying to do the copy in konsole?08:29
arsoyes08:29
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Philip5arso: but if it's a partition that get mounted in fstab then it can have been set to be read only too... so it depends on what you are doing08:30
arso"chmod 777 /mnt/hdb5" did nothing08:30
arsoPhilip5:  so we need to edit fstab?08:30
londondavearso: what command line did you use?08:30
arso"chmod 777 /media/partition"08:30
gatekeeperarso: paste fstab - pastebin08:30
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arsogatekeeper:  k,08:31
Philip5arso: if you have /mnt/hdb5 in fstab look if it have a 'ro' setting08:31
londondavearso: Philip5 as your answer you need to change fstab to give users permission for the partition08:31
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arsothis is the line08:31
teknoprephmmm08:31
arso" /dev/hdb5 /mnt/hdb5 auto defaults,users 0 0"08:31
teknoprepmy bluetooth device isn't auto recognized anymore08:32
teknoprepwtf08:32
teknoprepmy bluetooth adapter08:32
teknoprepis there a service i need to start?08:32
Philip5arso: is it a linux filesystem?08:32
arsoyes08:33
arsoext308:33
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arso!pastebin08:34
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:34
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teknoprep?08:34
teknoprepbluetooth08:34
teknoprepanyone use it?08:34
arsogatekeeper:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18018 there08:35
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londondavehow do you paste to the pastebin, is it a website?08:35
arsoya08:35
arsojust go to the link, pretty straight forward08:35
abattoirteknoprep: kbluetoothd08:35
Philip5arso: what do you get with ls -l /mnt/hdb5 ?08:36
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arsocommand not found08:36
Philip5you must have the ls command08:37
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arsowoops08:37
eniac_petrovFriends, I have found project for other Distro CD's shipping - http://free.thelinuxstore.ca08:37
arsofixed it08:37
Philip5arso: hehe, what did you do?08:37
arsook i get a huge list08:37
arsoforgot "ls" :P08:37
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arsoso now wat?08:38
Philip5arso: give me a few lines in private08:38
arsoprivate how?08:38
arsoi am not registered08:38
Philip5./msg Philip5 some lines08:38
Philip5without the .08:38
arso]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )08:39
arsou use msn? or yahoo or any of those08:39
arsogaim08:39
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arsooh screw it "drwxr-xr-x  2 arso root      4096 2006-06-30 16:23 WUTemp" heres one line08:40
Philip5arso: try this first... chmod -R 777 /mnt/hdb508:40
Philip5as root08:40
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arso"sudo -u" ?08:40
Tommy2k4how can i make a html file of my audio playlist (m3u or other)08:40
arso -su08:40
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Philip5arso: sudo chmod -R 777 /mnt/hdb508:40
arsook08:41
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arsoits done08:41
Philip5try to past now08:41
Philip5paste08:41
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arsonope08:41
arsodon work08:41
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arsoPhilip5:  it did not work08:42
Philip5ok08:42
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gatekeeperarso: is  /dev/hdb5 a hard disk, ie partition *will* always be ext3?08:43
abattoirTommy2k4: amarok?08:43
arsoits a partition on a harddisk , always ext3 i guess08:43
Tommy2k4kaffeine08:43
Tommy2k4amarok is fine i guess though08:43
abattoirTommy2k4: oh, because amarok has a playlist2html script...08:43
arsogatekeeper:  i didnt get that, but its ext3, and its gonna stay that way08:44
abattoirTommy2k4: Tools->Script Manager->General08:44
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Tommy2k4ty08:44
abattoirTommy2k4: click about for more info, to see if thats what you need08:44
gatekeeperarso: Philip5; pointless being auto should be ext3 in fstab, no idea if that is part of the problem08:44
arsoso should we change that08:45
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arsowow i just found out that all the drives get access denied08:46
gatekeeperarso: I would and reboot, what do you think Philip5?08:46
Agiofwshello is there  the executable  xorgconfig in Kubuntu ?08:46
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Philip5gatekeeper: in his case i would think it's easier than remounting :)08:46
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Leafw!mp308:46
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:46
Philip5arso: try to reboot08:47
gatekeeperarso: all the ones with auto or all period?08:47
arso like this then "/dev/hdb5 /mnt/hdb5 ext3 defaults,users 0 008:47
arso\all auto08:47
abattoirAgiofws: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ??08:47
gatekeeperarso: yep08:47
arsook then08:47
arsobrb08:47
arso restart08:47
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gemidjyxorg-fglrx actually is the free driver for ATI or it is the proprietary ?08:47
Agiofwsabattoir,   xorgconfig <--- is there such an app ?08:47
gatekeeperPhilip5: will see if this is a lucky guess :-)08:48
ajaychi guys08:48
ajaycv3ctor: hi08:48
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teknoprepWTF08:48
ajaychi teknoprep08:48
abattoirAgiofws: not that i am aware of... the command i gave is for configuring x08:48
teknoprepi put the kubuntu cd in and boot from that08:48
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teknoprepmy bluetooth device starts right up08:48
teknoprepbut08:48
teknoprepwith my installed version08:48
teknoprepits not working08:48
abattoirteknoprep: kbluetoothd worked?08:48
ajaycteknoprep: the site for the distro is up please tell me ur views http://ajay.chahar.googlepages.com08:48
teknoprepyup08:48
teknoprepthe bluetooth device isn't even blinking blue now08:49
teknoprepit was in kubuntu cd .. but not on my install08:49
Philip5gatekeeper: we can always hope... not that easy to know what others are doing... sometimes they have done something really strange and it's hard to figure what as you would never do it yourself :)08:49
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ajaycteknoprep: man please tell me ur views08:49
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teknoprep?08:49
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arsogonna try now08:49
teknoprepnot now ajayc08:49
teknoprepwhat is the bluetooth service?08:50
gatekeeperPhilip5: yes had that problem before, even with code I have written :-)08:50
arsostill access  denied08:50
Philip5gatekeeper: i leave him to you for a while... have to get a shower and something to eat... bbl08:50
Philip5gatekeeper: lol, well that happens too08:50
arsogatekeeper: Philip5 still denied :(08:50
arsobtw does konversation save logs on default?08:51
Philip5arso: can we see you fstab as a binpaste?08:51
arsosure08:51
abattoirteknoprep: sudo /etc/init.d/bluez-utils start08:51
ajaycanyone else interested to comment?08:51
comawhy is using kubuntu so stimulating?08:51
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teknoprepabattoir: already did that08:51
arso!paste08:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:52
abattoirteknoprep: and bluetooth:/ does not recognise your device?08:52
fre1coma: because you want to run tell your friends :)08:52
fre1coma: go for it! :)08:52
teknoprepmy device isn't even blinking08:52
arsogatekeeper: Philip5 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1802008:52
teknopreplike my usb bluetooth adapter08:52
ajaycteknoprep: man just once man please08:52
ajayc:P08:52
teknoprepit usually blinks blue light when its hooked up and running08:52
teknoprepajayc: not now08:52
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Philip5arso: i'll have a look08:53
arsoPhilip5:  thanx08:53
teknoprephey i'll brb08:53
arsoPhilip5:  so does koversation keep logs :D08:53
fre1ajayc: man you should do some work and then do the presentation page :)08:53
ajaychahaha08:53
ajaycfre1: u saw it?08:53
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fre1ajayc: i saw a web page designed in 5min :)08:53
ajaycwell waddya expect with googlepages :P08:54
Philip5arso: /dev/hdb5 is duplicated08:54
ajaycbtw fre1 u know any good free host?08:54
fre1ajayc: i dunno... some work proving this is not vaporware ? :)08:54
Philip5arso: and remove the 'users' option08:54
arsoPhilip5:  no its not, hdB5 hdD508:54
teknoprepi have installed so much crap08:54
teknoprepi am just going to reinstall08:54
ajaycfre1: man i want some good host08:55
arsoPhilip5:  removed "users: from all08:55
Philip5arso: oh... my bad08:55
ajaycfre1: the work has started just want a host08:55
fre1ajayc: nope i dont know one in particular08:55
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galorinI'm having troubles installing and starting vmware-player, AMD64.  "Module vmnet is not loaded.  Please verify that it is loaded before running this script."  I try loading it with sudo modprobe vmnet but it says "module not found"08:55
fre1ajayc: my advice is 'focus on doing the actual work more that on the webpage' :)08:55
crazy_penguingood evening to all!08:55
Philip5arso: yes... there is no point in that what i can see.. and set 'defaults 0 2' instead08:55
ajaycfre1: i am focussing but we need a webpage dont we08:56
ajayccrazy_penguin: good evening08:56
fre1ajayc: not now08:56
arsoPhilip5:  ok08:56
gatekeepercrazy_penguin: evening08:56
ajaycfre1: then? after everything is over?08:56
arsoPhilip5:  no disrespect, but , u know wat ur doing right?08:56
fre1ajayc: when you have some work done which proove it is not vaporware08:56
Philip5arso: yes08:56
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arsoPhilip5:  great :D08:56
ajaycfre1: it is not we already  started man :)08:57
Philip5arso: are you still getting accessed denied in home dir?08:57
fre1ajayc: it is exactly what im trying to tell you since the begining :)08:57
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Philip5arso: or just in /mnt/* ?08:57
arsoPhilip5:  i'll save fstab and check08:57
fre1ajayc: but im just 1 personn on the internet, you dont have to listen to me :)08:58
ajaycfre1: so that is what i am saying it aint vaporware cos we have started and almost halfway through it08:58
Philip5arso: you need to remount to make the effect08:58
arsooh08:58
ajaycfre1: no problem ur comments matter too :)08:58
arsook08:58
arsoso how do i unmount/remound all without restart08:58
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ajaycadios for now!08:59
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fre1ajayc: ok so if it is not waporware, and you actually did the work, to find a web host is the easy part :)08:59
Philip5arso: either restart or 'sudo umount /mnt/hdb5' and then 'sudo mount /mnt/hdb5'08:59
fre1Ajayc, may people are hosting project like that for free. e.g. sourceforge and co08:59
galoringrr... what you mean not found.. I'm looking right at you vmnet!08:59
fre1may=many09:00
arsoPhilip5:  i'll restart09:00
Philip5arso: hehe, ok09:00
Philip5gatekeeper: this can be interesting09:00
abattoirfre1: he has left :P09:02
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gatekeeperPhilip5: you probable know more than me so it's interesting to watch :-)09:02
Philip5gatekeeper: well i don't program i just admin some stuff09:02
fre1abattoir: damn! :)09:02
Philip5not professionally though09:02
abattoirfre1: lol09:02
londondavePhilip5: you do linux admin?09:03
mads_a quick one : an simular command to ipconfig (/all) ?09:03
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abattoirfre1: i'm sure you'd miss him ;)09:03
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londondaveifconfig09:03
gatekeeperPhilip5: haven't got round to linux programing yet, only on windows at the moment, but when the winter comes I will probable have a go :-)09:03
Philip5londondave: not professionally... just my own server09:03
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mads_thanks =] 09:03
arsoPhilip5:  i think we messed up fstab09:03
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Philip5arso: what now?09:04
arsoPhilip5:  during boot up i got "bad format in fstab line x" a few times09:04
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Philip5arso: past what you have now09:04
arsothen kde didnt load up, had to type "control-d"09:04
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Philip5arso: paste fstab in pastebin09:05
arsoPhilip5:  sure09:05
arso!paste arso09:05
ubotuI know nothing about paste arso - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:05
arso!paste09:05
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:05
arsoPhilip5: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1802309:06
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londondavegatekeeper: what sort of apps do you progam09:07
Philip5arso: the problem is that you have 'defaults,' which is wrong remove the ','09:07
arsoPhilip5:09:07
arso /dev/hdb5 /mnt/hdb5 ext3 defaults 0 209:07
gatekeeperlondondave: work for a GIS company www.strumap.co.uk09:07
Philip5arso: yes that should work09:07
arsobrb restart09:08
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qwertybobim having a problem nvidia kernel module 7174 but x module 8762 mismatch?09:08
Philip5gatekeeper: i hope he have created those directories in /mnt/ that he try to mount in09:08
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londondavegatekeeper: what does the strumap app do?09:09
londondavei thought kubuntu used /media for partitions?09:09
gatekeeperPhilip5: me to, thought it was the ',' that might be doing the damage09:09
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londondavemind u whats in a name media/mnt lol09:11
Philip5gatekeeper: well that too... and i'm not sure you are allowed to have a empty line like he have in line 8 but you must have a empty last line in fstab... maybe his system think it's end of lines after line 709:11
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gatekeeperlondondave: utility companies use it for their pipework, planing and doing work, analysis and loads of other things09:11
Philip5gatekeeper: that is what we'll see if it doesn't work for him :)09:11
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gatekeeperPhilip5: interesting, like I said you know more than I do :-)09:12
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hartmuthallo09:12
Philip5gatekeeper: we'll see about that09:12
root__Philip5:  everything is pretty much fucked up09:12
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arsoi am arso09:12
ThunderStruck!language09:12
arsolol09:12
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:12
arsoat checking all filesystems09:13
Philip5arso: what now?09:13
arsobad format at line 2/3/809:13
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arsowouldnt load x, i had to "startx"09:13
arsonow everything is back to default09:13
arsoshortcuts gone and everything09:13
arsogood news is, i can paste09:14
arsoi have access09:14
arsocoz i am root i think09:14
Philip5arso: what can you access?09:14
arsoeverything?09:14
arsoand paste anywhere with no access denied09:14
londondavearso: ur playing with the file systems, make sure there are no errors in fstab and that the directories in /mnt exist09:14
arsoits "fstab" that we changed09:14
Philip5arso: also have no empty line in line 809:15
Philip5but you must have a empty last line in fstab09:15
arsookay09:15
arsowtf09:15
arsowhen i go to kmenu> run command09:15
arsonothing opens09:15
arsoalt f209:15
Philip5arso: look here... here is my working fstab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1802409:17
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arsoso the "run command" wats up with that09:17
teknoprepw0ot09:17
teknoprepi got my bluetooth mouse working09:17
teknoprephad to use the shell tools to doit09:17
teknoprepkbluetoothd sucks ass09:17
Philip5arso: not sure if you can use space between collums or if you have to tab09:18
abattoirteknoprep: heh, why?09:18
teknoprepabattoir: sure it finds it09:18
teknoprepabattoir: how do i pair it in kbluetoothd tho?09:18
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arsoPhilip5:  my previous fstab worked fine, besides the "copy/paste" thing09:18
abattoirteknoprep: when you make a connection the first time, it asks about future pairing....09:19
teknoprepwhere is the pairing option?09:19
gatekeeperPhilip5: arso:  got to run be back latter good luck!09:19
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arsogatekeeper:  bye09:19
abattoirteknoprep: it goes into Paired Devices...09:19
Philip5arso: did you have a empty line in line 8 there too?09:19
teknoprepnope09:19
teknoprepno paired devices09:19
abattoirteknoprep: rt.click tray icon->Configure->Paired Devices09:20
teknoprepunder kbluetoothd09:20
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teknoprepnope09:20
teknoprepno paired devices09:20
arsoPhilip5:  cant get to fstab, cant access" run command"09:20
Philip5arso: and are you 100% sure that you have ext3 and not ext2 or something else in those partitions?09:20
teknoprepyet my bluetooth mouse is working09:20
arsoyes09:20
abattoirteknoprep: hmmm.. my phone goes there automatically09:21
teknoprephmmm09:21
abattoirteknoprep: what about bluetooth:/09:21
teknoprepmicosoft mouse09:21
teknoprepi like it09:21
teknoprepreally nice09:21
abattoiri assume its visible there09:21
teknoprepnope09:21
teknopreponly under konquerer09:21
Philip5arso: can't you edit fstab now either???09:21
teknoprepbluetooth:/09:21
arsoPhilip5:   i am gonna restart09:21
teknoprepi can find it there09:21
arsoPhilip5:  no, cant open anything, games and stuff09:21
abattoirteknoprep: yes, the bluetooth:/ kioslave... that's what i said :P09:21
teknoprepyeah i see it there09:21
teknoprepbut if i double click the microsoft mouse thats there09:22
teknoprepit just gives me the services09:22
abattoirteknoprep: i dont remember, but isnt there an option to pair(and connect automatically) there?09:22
teknoprepdo i have to open up the services with a special program?09:22
teknoprepnope09:22
abattoirteknoprep: anyway, i cant test now, dont have a dongle :(09:22
teknoprepahhh09:23
teknoprepmy dongle is fubar09:23
teknoprepnever buy a kensington one09:23
teknoprepi have had many problems with them09:23
abattoirteknoprep: i have a generic one, w/ no name on it :P, works brilliantly09:23
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arsook09:24
arsoi can edit fstab now09:24
arso2/3/8 line wrong format09:24
ryanakca_I have konsole running to vt7...ctrl-alt-f7... but Xorg seems to be frosen.. I'm on tty1... ctrl-alt-f1.... is there a way for me to take over the konsole Terminal 1... (first tab) from tty1?09:24
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arsoPhilip5:  u there man09:25
Philip5arso: ok... first of all... use tab to space between the settings you have written for your devices and remove the empty line at line 809:26
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arsoPhilip5:  could u do me a great favor and do it for me? coz i don wanna mess anything up09:26
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Philip5arso: ok09:27
arsoi'll link u now, or do u have my fstab?09:27
arso!paste09:27
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Agiofwshow can someone install kde on his ubuntu formthe cd ?09:27
Agiofwshow can someone install kde on his ubuntu from the cd ?09:27
arsoPhilip5:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1802609:28
abattoirAgiofws: You cant, from the Ubuntu CD09:28
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ThunderStruckAgiofws: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:29
Agiofwsfromthe kubuntu cd09:29
ThunderStruckAgiofws: you can from the ubuntu cd09:29
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abattoirThunderStruck: you can?09:29
ThunderStruckabattoir: i have kubuntu/xubuntu/ubuntu/edubuntu all installed fro ubuntu disk09:29
ThunderStruckwell with repos ebabled09:30
ThunderStruckenabled09:30
abattoirThunderStruck: i think he wants to install KDE from the Ubuntu CD on a ubuntu system which he already has installed09:30
abattoirwhich afaik is not possible09:30
ThunderStruckkubuntu is in universe repo might beable to add universe repo to cd sources (if desktopcd)09:31
ThunderStruckAgiofws: why from cd?09:31
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ThunderStruckAgiofws: why not use internet to grab the packages using apt-get09:31
Agiofwsmaybe tha guy i'm tryingto help doesnot have net09:31
arsoPhilip5:  hows it going buddy09:32
abattoirAgiofws: i think you can add the cd as a repository... and then install 'kubuntu-desktop' from it09:32
Philip5arso: i'll give you a pastbin soon09:32
abattoirAgiofws: provided, its a kubuntu CD09:32
arsoPhilip5:  thanx a lot :)09:32
Agiofwsit is09:32
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Agiofwsabattoir,  would you know how to0 add the cd to the repository09:33
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hunterhow do I configure my internet here?09:34
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Philip5arso: found one more thing... in this one you have mounting for /dev/hdd6 to both swap and /mnt/hdd6 is the last one trully right?09:35
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abattoirAgiofws: i'll look it up.. but there should be a default entry for the Ubuntu one, must not be hard to change that to kubuntu09:35
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hunteris there a graphical app that shows the interfaces of my ethernet?09:35
Kevin_JimHELP plz09:35
arsoPhilip5:  sorry didnt get that09:35
Kevin_Jimthe X server is almost destroed09:35
teknoprepALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory09:36
Kevin_Jimcan i repear the system via the CD o Kubuntu ?09:36
centyxhunter: knemo09:36
Philip5arso: the settings you have in fstab now tries to mount /dev/hdd6 as both a swap file and as a ext3 file system09:36
arsoPhilip5:  ohh09:36
arsoPhilip5:  i see, so did u fix that09:37
Philip5arso: i will if you tell me if it's trully a swapfile09:37
abattoirAgiofws: i think apt-cdrom is what you are looking for09:37
Kevin_Jimcan someone help me ?09:37
Philip5arso: or is your swap somewhere else?09:37
arsoPhilip5: i dont know ...09:37
Philip5arso: :)09:37
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Kevin_Jimplz ?09:38
arsoPhilip5:  maybe we should "auto" them09:38
Kevin_Jimsomeone help me if you will09:38
Philip5arso: if it's a swap then it need other settings09:38
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mads_in the irc clien konversation , isnt it possible to choose where to store the recieved dcc's ?09:38
arsoi dont think its the swap09:39
arsocos with my previous settings, it had the regular settings of an ext309:39
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Philip5arso: so where is your swap?09:39
abattoirmads_: Configure->Behaviour->DCC09:39
arsoPhilip5: i dont know :P, but i have one09:39
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mads_in the menu in this client ?09:40
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abattoirmads_: Settings->Configure Konversation->Behaviour->DCC09:41
DarkAuditgrr... firestarter won't let me run mdns-scan09:41
mads_Great , thanks09:41
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martinjh99Where do I report bugs in latest Koffice 1.5.2 packages??09:42
teknoprepwhy is Cedega looking for /dev/snd/seq ?09:42
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Philip5arso: type: sudo fdisk /dev/hdd09:42
Philip5arso: the press 'p'09:42
martinjh99Arso try sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdd - Only lists partitions then...09:43
Philip5arso: what does it tell you that /dev/hdd6 is?09:43
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arsoPhilip5: "hdd5" is swap09:43
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Philip5arso: ok09:43
Philip5arso: and /dev/hdd6 is a linux files system?09:44
arsoyes09:44
arsolinux09:44
Philip5arso: ok that's better09:44
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martinjh99Where do I report bugs in latest Koffice 1.5.2 packages??09:45
abattoirmartinjh99: a problem w/ packaging or w/ koffice?09:45
eniac_petrovin koffice site09:45
eniac_petrovsearch in google. maybe is in sf.net09:46
abattoirmartinjh99: bugs.kde.org, if the latter09:46
eniac_petrovoh, koffice for ubuntu?09:46
martinjh99Not sure - Think its a packaging problem see  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1802809:46
svivian!seen DaSkreech09:46
ubotuI last saw DaSkreech (n=Me@208.138.25.107) 15h 45m 30s ago, quiting: Connection timed out09:46
martinjh99Eniac Koffice 1.5.2 which riddell kindly supplies...09:46
Philip5arso: have a look at this one that should be working and yours: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1803109:47
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arsook09:47
abattoirmartinjh99: i guess its launchpad then09:47
spotihey guys! sometimes I get an error in amarok: xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers...I have to manually change the engine to xine...sometimes it works sometimes the same error...09:47
Philip5arso: don't forget that there must be an empty last line09:47
abattoirmartinjh99: https://launchpad.net/malone09:48
spotican you help me?09:48
Philip5arso: just to make sure.... don't paste line numbers... :)09:48
martinjh99:) I'm having trouble finding out where abouts in launchpad/malone I should be looking.  Just tried to have a look and the only version of KOffice I could find is 1.4x09:48
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arsoPhilip5:  ok sure :)09:48
martinjh99Abbatoir Malone says that KOffice does not use Malone as BTS...09:49
Agiofwsabattoir,  the thing is tha when he starts up kde he gets  ONLY a small firefox icon  and no kde menu or K-menu can he fix this ?09:50
Philip5arso: i have to take a shower... try that one and reboot09:50
abattoirmartinjh99: hmmm i find lots of 1.5.x bugs under 1.4 series, so i guess you could file it there09:50
arsoPhilip5:  ok09:50
arsoPhilip5:  hurry back :P09:50
martinjh99Abbatoir Malone says that KOffice does not use Malone as BTS...09:51
abattoirAgiofws: 'he' can try starting the panel manually (kicker) or through a konsole09:51
poseidonI need help with playing midi files09:51
Agiofwsabattoir,  what do you mean ?09:51
abattoirmartinjh99: i'm not sure about that, but if you suspect it being  a packaging problem i guess malone is where it goes09:51
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Kevin_Jimhey guys my bar saw's only the firefox icon the rest of them as well as the kmenu just desapier09:52
Agiofwswhat commmand is it kmenu ?09:52
abattoirAgiofws: the panel is the taskbar type of thing ;)09:52
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martinjh99:) Yeah your probably right abbattoir but I can't seem to find out where I can report in there...09:52
abattoirAgiofws: Alt+F109:52
czeksitamy previous session is broke and i would like to force kde to start with new session. how can i do that? where are files with sesion that i should delete?09:52
Agiofwsalt+f1 and then what ?09:53
abattoirmartinjh99: i agree, it is kinda confusing ;)09:53
Agiofwsabattoir,  how do you start the panel ?09:53
martinjh99czekista> rm -fr .kde in your $HOME09:53
abattoirAgiofws: that gets the Kmenu menu, 'kicker' would start the 'taskbar' which has the kmenu button09:53
abattoirAgiofws: 'kicker'09:53
abattoirmartinjh99: one sec09:53
czeksitamartinjh99: i don't want to remove all my settings :/09:54
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czeksitai just would like to remove previous seesion :/09:54
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martinjh99czesikta> Ah No idea then I'm afraid.09:54
Agiofwsabattoir,  should he remove the .kde ? in his home ?09:55
czeksitafrom topic on #kde: "Don't delete ~/.kde !"09:55
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abattoirmartinjh99: i guess its bugs.kde.org then :)09:55
czeksita!!!09:55
ubotuI know nothing about !! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:55
czeksitamaybe i should remove the whole home? ;)09:55
abattoirAgiofws: If he has nothing important to lose, it will be recreated, yes, so it should work09:55
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martinjh99abattior> Found out the place for reporting it in Launchpad/Malone...  We shall see what happens - Thanks!09:56
calilasseiaHello everyone .... anyone here familiar with OpenOffice?09:56
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Philip5arso: have you tried it yet?09:56
abattoirAgiofws: well, i didnt read what czeksita said :P09:56
abattoirAgiofws: though i dont think there'd be anything wrong in doing that :P09:57
Agiofwsme too09:57
calilasseiaI'm having trouble with scripting in Openoffice Calc ....09:57
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slow-motionbbl10:00
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fre1q. fully offtopic but i dunno where to ask "where can i get information about network address/netmask/broadcast address and such when the prefix length is greater then 30 ?10:00
arsoPhilip5:  msg me when ur back10:00
fre1i take any suggestion on a better place to ask too :)10:01
Philip5arso: i'm back10:01
Philip5arso: but i'm about to go out and get my some food10:01
Philip5arso: did it work?10:01
arsoPhilip5:  oh welcome10:02
arsoPhilip5:  nope10:02
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Philip5arso: so what now then?10:02
arsoPhilip5:  i messed a bit with fstab10:02
arsofixed lines 2/3/810:02
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arsoat startup it keeps not loading up10:02
arsoat checking all filesystems10:02
arsobut i think it should now, gonna restart10:02
arsoso brb10:02
arsohow long does it take u to get food?10:02
poseidonhow do you get /dev/sequencer up?10:03
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Philip5poseidon: you load a kernel module for you soundcard that support that10:04
poseidonhow do you do that? <_<10:05
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arsoPhilip5:  ok , loaded up fine, after i changed "ext3" to "auto10:05
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Philip5arso: ok10:05
Philip5arso: very strange if it's in fact a ext3 system10:06
arsoPhilip5:  but is that vital in making the access denied issue work?10:06
centyxusing kontact w/ imap resource for calendar/todo/contacts etc... and when it refreshes the imap folder, todos will randomly dissappear10:06
centyxanyone seen that, or have any idea what could be causing it?10:07
Philip5poseidon: try: 'modprobe snd-seq' for starters10:07
Philip5arso: no, not really if it works now10:07
arsoPhilip5:  so now wat do we do :(10:07
Philip5arso: as long as it's not ntfs10:07
centyxn/m i think i know.10:07
centyxkontact's running at home10:07
centyxi hate to just kill it.10:08
centyxany harm in that?10:08
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nixternalcentyx: i have seen that, as i think it is a bug over on kde's list10:08
centyxnixternal: oh really?10:08
poseidonphilip5: I didn't get any output10:08
centyxnixternal: thanks10:08
nixternalno problemo10:08
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Philip5poseidon: you have to do it as root or sudo... and you wont get anything if it's loading... it's worse if you get an error10:09
arsoPhilip5:  its not ntfs, all ext3, unless i made some mistake and some are ext2 which i highly doubt10:09
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Philip5poseidon: after that check if you got that in /dev/10:09
poseidonphilip5: it's there, yayo!10:10
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Philip5arso: i have to go and get some food but will be back in 20 min or so... we can look in to it after that but meanwhile type: 'man:/chmod' in konqueror and do some reading :)10:11
Philip5poseidon: congrats10:11
arsoPhilip5:  actually i am reading my logs10:11
arsoi think i can find something there10:11
arsosomeone helped me with this last week and i actually forgot it all ::(:(:(10:11
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centyxarso: speaking of logs... it can helpful to make documentation, or notes of what you do to your system10:12
Philip5arso: hehe10:12
centyxarso: to help you remember next time10:12
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centyxi log everything i do at work10:12
arsoya10:12
arsome 210:12
centyxexcept for irc ;)10:12
arsou guys are very helpful10:12
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arsobut a bit too much since my pc is up 24/710:13
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centyxwell, i actually log irc as well, i just don't log the fact that i use irc ;)10:14
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edulixhi !10:14
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arsolool10:14
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arsoedulix:  HI!\10:14
Philip5poseidon: if you want that module to be loaded every time at start then add 'snd-seq' in a new line in /etc/modules10:14
spoti I get an error in amarok: xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers...I have to manually change the engine to xine...sometimes it works sometimes the same error...how can I fix it?10:15
edulixthere are two conflicting packages, koffice-i18n-es (3.5.3) and kde-i18n-es (3.5.3)10:15
edulixand when installing the later I get:10:15
edulixdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-i18n-es_4%3a3.5.3-0ubuntu0.1_all.deb (--unpack):10:15
edulix trying to overwrite `/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/es/api/kfontdialog.png', which is also in package koffice-i18n-es10:15
poseidonphilip5: But it won't play anything in rosegarden, kmid, or the midi test in system settings10:15
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arsoomg, i think the chat i need wasnt logged10:16
edulixisn't there a way to let it overwrite it? I really don't care if it's overwriting the icon :P10:16
teknoprephow do i switch from GDM to KDM ?10:16
spoti I get an error in amarok: xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers...I have to manually change the engine to xine...sometimes it works sometimes the same error...how can I fix it?10:17
centyxteknoprep: man update-rc.d10:17
Philip5poseidon: type 'lsmod | grep seq' and see if you also have snd-seq-midi loaded10:17
arsoPhilip5:  where do u live10:18
Philip5poseidon: if not load them to...10:18
centyxteknoprep: disable gdm and enable kdm with that10:18
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Philip5arso: sweden10:18
arsoPhilip5:  cool10:18
Philip5arso: but now i have to go otherwise i won't live anywhere... i'll starve to death10:18
Philip5bbl10:18
ThunderStruckteknoprep: sudo update-alternatives10:18
purrdetaIs there a manufacturer who sells computers with Kubuntu or Ubuntu already set up?10:18
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arsoPhilip5:  later, be back soon10:19
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poseidonphilip5: I have snd-seq-midi.10:22
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poseidonBut now you've ran away, so moo.10:23
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DaSkreech!topic10:24
ubotuI know nothing about topic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:24
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mads_a friendly osul passed me a link to easyubuntu earlier...i need help on following error:10:29
mads_EasyUbuntu is now trying to run 'dpkg --configure -a'10:29
mads_System sanity check: Failed!10:29
mads_Errors:10:29
mads_--------10:29
mads_clvmd could not connect to cluster manager10:29
mads_Consult syslog for more information10:29
mads_invoke-rc.d: initscript clvm, action "start" failed.10:29
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svivianDaSkreech: Hey, I found a way to get you that music10:29
DaSkreechsvivian: Cool :)10:29
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sysrplhello10:30
svivianDaSkreech:10:30
DaSkreechHi10:30
svivianDaSkreech: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/multimedia/chinese-music/10:30
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sysrplhttp://digg.com/politics/George_Bush_Outlaws_Freedom_of_Speech10:30
svivianThe top link on that page has all the old tunes, and a bit further down the page, there is a section on popular music that has other folk tunes10:31
svivianDaSkreech: I will also be grabbing the childrens tunes and the opera section10:31
DaSkreechsvivian: Interesting10:32
svivianDaSkreech: all the tunes I was going to send you are on that page10:33
DaSkreechHa ha Don't you love ibiblio?10:33
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lafranceis there a way to load gnupg ?10:33
mads_ok since it doesnt work for me right now , anyone here got a link to get the prober plugins / codecs so i will be capeable to see divx or xvid or even wmv10:34
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mads_i know my questions may seem like i just should do a google , but , really, i will just get the best out of it now.10:36
fre1groubgroub10:37
DaSkreech!tell mads_ about restricted10:37
mads_well well, isnt mp3 restricted ? or has it just been on the scetchboard to restrict them ?10:38
mads_xvid isnt it free still ?10:39
lafrancethere is free version out there10:40
fre1like a legal one ? :)10:40
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lafranceoh well like President Bush say define legal ;)10:41
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mads_but as a rule there isnt a plugin / addon that enables me to watch my vids ? not that ive got many really , im just doing basic setup , preparing to put energy in understanding this sys.10:42
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lafranceI use my mac for that so I dont worry10:42
fre1mads_: like reading the link you have received and applying the command in it ?10:42
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imachinemads_, you can use mplayer.10:42
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imachinekmplayer for kde.10:42
imachineit plays everything that i know of nicely.10:43
imachinebut it's probably illegal somewhere or something...10:43
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mads_so i google kmplayer ?10:43
imachineno, you apt-get install kmplayer10:43
imachine;-)10:43
imachineand add the repo in sources.list in /etc/apt/ with the nonfree stuff like mplayer and the w32codecs.10:44
imachine(tho that only works if you're on x86)10:44
arsoDaSkreech:  u there buddy?10:44
imachine(so good luck on other archs)10:44
beetleboxwow ... fox news and cnn aren't by u.s. law allowed to air clips from lebanese news10:44
fre1imachine: opera is in nonfree ? or another ?10:44
DaSkreecharso: Nope :-)10:44
arsoDaSkreech:  wazzza10:44
imachinefre1, i dont know. i dont think it's anywhere :-)10:44
arso!paste10:44
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:44
imachinefre1, i think you have to fetch it from opera.com, there's a deb file for ubuntu 6.06 available explicitly.10:45
imachinethen just dpkg -i it.10:45
arsoDaSkreech:  could uplease take a look at my fstab and tell me wats wrong with it10:45
fre1imachine: it is somewhere. canonical put it in a repository and it made some noise recently10:45
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hunterI need to give assistance through ssh to my friend .. whats the easiest way of doing it??10:45
imachineisee.10:45
imachinedunno then10:45
imachine:)10:45
fre1ok :)10:45
arsoDaSkreech:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18038 pleasee :D:D10:45
fre1hunter: with akeyboard :) ask a more precise question would help you :)10:46
arsoDaSkreech:  when i try to copy/paste anything from a partition to the other i get access denied10:46
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mads_im so sorry , please carry over with me ... apt.get , where is it ?10:46
hunterfre1:like, how do I configure the basics for making a working connection10:46
talljon84I'm working on compiling Kopete 0.12. It states it needs KDE header files. What package do I need for this?10:46
hunterso I can execute commands in his computer10:47
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arsoDaSkreech:  so ur NOT there :=(10:47
fre1hunter, you make it run sshd and ask him for his passwd, and its ip address10:47
fre1hunter: then you use the ssh lcient to connect it10:47
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mads_ah didnt see , brb =] 10:48
DaSkreecharso: Sounds like your partition is owned by root10:48
arsoDaSkreech:  meaning?10:48
arsoby owned do u mean "ownership" or "PWNED10:48
hunterfre1: Let me see if I got it: he needs to run sshd service and I need the cliente right?10:48
DaSkreechThat you don't have rights to write into it10:48
arsoDaSkreech:  so how do i make it owned by all users or watever10:48
arsoDaSkreech:  and is the format of all the lines fine  ? specially 2,3,810:49
fre1hunter: yep, get the openssh pacakge from the repository10:49
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hunterfre1: so he needs to install openssh-server since he has a clean install of kubuntu right?10:50
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fre1i dunno the exact pacakge name but it seems good10:51
fre1make it type 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server'10:52
fre1btw his box must be reachable by you10:52
fre1aka no firewall or nat box without portforwarding10:52
arsoDaSkreech:  so any ideas?10:52
fre1hunter: easier, ask your firend to come here10:52
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hunterIm afraid he cant use apt-get to install openssh-server10:53
DaSkreecharso: 2 is a comment :)10:53
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arsoDaSkreech:  lol.. ok? :P10:54
arsoDaSkreech:  so  u think u can help me?10:54
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DaSkreechdo a ls -a on /mnt/hdb510:55
mads_function : apt.get , where do i find that ? i should probably have chosen english language , it would have made it all a little easier10:55
lafrancemad it a terminal command10:56
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fre1with a dash :)10:56
arsoDaSkreech:  u mean line 2?10:56
lafranceor use aptitude10:56
fre1and all is in the page you received like 20min ago mads_ :)10:56
mads_hehe10:56
slow-motionre10:57
DaSkreecharso: Yep10:57
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arsoDaSkreech:  wat do u mean "a comment"10:57
arsoshould we remove it?10:58
arsoand wat about the rest please, how do i make anyone able to write not just root10:58
DaSkreechno that's fine what did you mean by 2, 3, 8 ?10:58
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arsolines 2 / 3 810:59
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DaSkreecharso: ok :-)11:00
arsothanx :D:D11:00
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RawSewage!flash11:01
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:01
DaSkreecharso: do a ls -a on /mnt/hdb511:01
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arso"ls -a /mnt/hdb5"11:01
arsolonglist11:01
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DaSkreecharso: do a ls -a on /mnt/ :-)11:03
arsohow?11:03
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arso:P11:03
DaSkreechls -a /mnt11:03
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arsook11:04
DaSkreechgimmie the line for hdb511:04
arso.  ..  hdb5  hdb6  hdd6  hdd6:  mydisk  mydisk:  new11:04
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DaSkreechls -a ?11:05
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arsolonglist11:05
DaSkreechgimmie the one for hdb511:06
arsook sorry11:07
arsoi am messing something up11:07
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arsocan we do it again11:07
arso"ls -a /mnt"?11:07
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Philip5arso: still going on? :)11:07
arsook once i am there11:07
arsohow do i open hdb511:07
arsoi am at the place where i get .  ..  hdb5  hdb6  hdd6  hdd6:  mydisk  mydisk:  new11:08
gatekeeperevening arso: Philip5: DaSkreech: (you winnning ?)11:08
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-BoDiUSA:#kubuntu- Duble Click On The Red http://www.speedyshare.com/654868402.html Save Cristina.exe , Then Open And Watch the Best Prono Movie Ever11:08
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DaSkreechgatekeeper: Huh?11:09
arsogatekeeper:  hello, hopeso11:09
arsoDaSkreech:  the people whove been helping me so far11:09
Philip5arso: how far have you come?11:09
arsono where yet11:09
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Philip5arso: trying to solve permission on hdd5?11:09
arsohdb5 yes11:09
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DaSkreecharso: When you do ls -a /mnt you should get a long list11:10
Philip5arso: can you browse it or is it you that you can't write to it?11:10
arsoDaSkreech:  when i do ls -a /mnt  i get .  ..  hdb5  hdb6  hdd6  hdd6:  mydisk  mydisk:  new11:10
arsoPhilip5:  cant write, copy paste to it, from it11:10
Philip5arso: i'm more interested in ls -l than ls -a11:11
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DaSkreechsounds like it's owed by root to me11:11
Philip5as with ls -l you get to see permissons11:11
Philip5and ownership11:11
heinkel_111hi guys...if i have duplicate entries Section "Device" in my xorg.conf that is probably bad, right?11:11
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DaSkreechhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1803811:11
arsodrwxrwxrwt 26 arso root 4096 2006-07-14 22:24 hdb511:12
arsodrwxr-xr-x  5 root root 4096 2006-07-14 23:13 hdb611:12
arsodrwxr-xr-x  5 root root 4096 2006-07-14 21:41 hdd611:12
arsodrwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2006-06-30 20:12 hdd6:11:12
arsodrwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2006-06-30 19:44 mydisk11:12
arsodrwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2006-06-30 20:01 mydisk:11:12
arsodrwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2006-06-30 22:49 new11:12
arsowoops, a bit too long11:12
arsobut thats from "ls -l /mnt"11:12
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centyx /mnt eh11:13
centyxi finally gave in and started using /media11:13
arsoya11:13
arsolol11:13
Philip5arso: ok but now we are getting somewhere11:13
arsoi hope so11:13
arsomy parents are bugging me to sleep so please try to make it fast11:13
DaSkreechPhilip5: Thanks :) I'm sick so Not thinking correct11:13
arsook so now wat?11:14
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DaSkreechWhere are you copying to?11:14
centyxDaSkreech: hope that helps11:14
DaSkreechcentyx: Umm Thanks?11:14
arsoDaSkreech:  anywhere? any other partitions11:14
centyxDaSkreech: ;)11:14
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DaSkreecharso: Well can you copy to the root of /mnt/hdb5?11:15
DaSkreechYou seem to own that11:15
arsodidnt try11:15
arsoi'll try now11:15
arsofrom any other to hdb5?11:15
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abattoirarso: its only 01:15 ;)11:15
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arsoyup worked11:15
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arsoabattoir:  gotta wake up at 711:16
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arsoDaSkreech:  ya copying INTO hdb5 worked,11:16
arsoDaSkreech:  its out of it that doesnt11:16
DaSkreechRight11:16
Philip5arso: where are you trying to copy it to?11:16
DaSkreechIf you want a short fix right now sudo chown -R arso /mnt should work11:16
arsoPhilip5:  any of the other partitions11:17
centyxarso: don't do that11:17
arsocentyx:  ????11:17
centyxn/m11:17
centyxsorry l11:17
teknoprephmm11:17
centyx;)11:17
teknoprepwhy be sorry?11:17
DaSkreechyou have defaults,users in the fstab that might need to change11:17
Philip5arso: try to copy to somewhere you know for sure you have permission to... like your home directory11:17
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teknoprephmm11:18
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arsodont Philip5 that works11:18
teknoprephmmm11:18
centyxarso: where are you trying to copy to?11:18
teknoprepget up and party.. get up and dance11:18
DaSkreecharso are any of these NTFS?11:19
teknoprephttp://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=801974&file=filename.pls11:19
teknoprepreally great mix11:19
teknoprepi am f'n loving it11:19
arsook it worked " with that chown11:19
centyxugh11:20
DaSkreechYeah are any of them NTFS ?11:20
arsono11:20
DaSkreechcentyx: ?11:20
arsoall ext311:20
teknoprepcentyx: doesn't like the mix11:20
arsoso waas the chown thing permnt11:20
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centyxteknoprep: not that :P11:20
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teknopreplol11:20
teknoprepcentyx: check the mix out11:20
teknoprepcentyx: its hot11:20
centyxteknoprep: no thnx11:20
DaSkreecharso: Nope next time you boot it will go back to root11:20
centyxi'm mixed up enough11:21
centyx;-s11:21
DaSkreechBut if you have to go to bed now just come back and ask how to not mount the partitions as root11:21
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centyxDaSkreech: ?11:21
Silver_AdeptQuestion for the assembled: I've managed to get the printer side of my HP PSC 750 to work and be recognized. How do I get the scanner component recognized?11:21
DaSkreechcentyx: !11:21
centyxDaSkreech: if he chown -R arso /mnt, it chown'd everything under it11:21
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centyxDaSkreech: that's not temporary11:22
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arsou sure??11:22
DaSkreechcentyx: it should go back to root when he reboots11:22
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arsoso i should chown every time11:22
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DaSkreech:-) you can get it to mount as you if you like11:23
Philip5arso: you chown once and it change11:23
mads_I will soon go to rest. Tomorrow or if I wake up as I usually do in 3 hours I hoe you will help me through, so I can watch fx Dire Straits concert that I fortunetly moved to my external before throwing myself into this. btw I love the "switch between workspace stations" . 3gp is unrestricted /i think) , didnt see it on any of the links i think11:23
arsobut when i reboot it'll be root again11:23
arsothats a pain in the   ass11:23
Philip5arso: no11:23
DaSkreechmads_: Have you installed kmplayer?11:23
centyxarso: no11:23
DaSkreechOk :)11:23
arsoyay11:24
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centyx;)11:24
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centyxspicy wonton11:24
centyxclear out your sinuses11:24
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arsoTHANX A LOT EVERYONE WHO HELPED11:24
arsou guys rock11:24
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Philip5arso: does it work now?11:24
mads_no i couldnt find it. notice ive been up for 2 days with only few hours of sleep , so there is probably a whole lot that will appear clearer to me as soon as i have had a good rest =] 11:25
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mads_but i follow in arso's footstep , and says thanks too =] 11:25
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arsoPhilip5:  yes :D11:26
Philip5arso: just remember that if it does then it work only for the user who own the directories and root11:26
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Philip5if there are other users on your system11:26
centyxarso: google unix file permissions11:26
arsoPhilip5:  i see, then i'll  ls -l /mnt    sudo chown arso /mnt11:26
centyx!permissions11:26
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html - file permissions are explained at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux11:26
centyxthere you go11:26
centyxsee what ubotu said11:26
arsolol11:26
arsoya thanx11:27
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DaSkreechmads_: Get some rest man you;ll enjoy your Kubuntu install a lot more :)11:27
teknoprepdoes google have a pastebin yet?11:27
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Philip5arso: maybe easier for you but now when you are owner you can use konqueror to set permissions on directories inside /mnt/hd**11:28
teknoprepgoogle is going to be bigger then microsoft and take over11:28
teknoprepw0ot11:28
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Philip5arso: arso you right click on the dir and select properties and then the permissions tab11:28
arsoPhilip5:  i see11:28
arsoPhilip5:  wat should i make it11:28
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stephanhi11:29
arsohi11:29
stephandoes kmail save soware drafts? i had a draft open it in the drafts several times11:29
stephanbut no its gone11:29
gatekeeperhi stephan11:29
Philip5arso: read on permission on directories.... what the difference between r w x is11:29
stephanis there any chance to get it back, was 4h work, i save it often in drafts too not lose it11:30
stephano, i'm so stupit11:30
stephani just found it11:31
stephanit was open11:31
arsoPhilip5:  ok sure,thnx11:31
angasulewhen will pyqt4 be available on dapper, any idea?11:31
Silver_AdeptAny ideas at all on the PSC scanner problem?11:31
arsogoodnight everyone11:31
arson thnx a lot11:31
Philip5arso: nite11:31
gatekeeperarso: night11:32
centyxnight arso11:32
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gatekeeperPhilip5: got it fixed?11:33
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Philip5gatekeeper: yes... but a bit dirty... but then again as it might should be11:33
zzeusstupid question: howto select text in nano )11:33
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gatekeeperPhilip5: well done :-)11:34
centyxzzeus: use vim :P11:34
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gatekeeperzzeus: shift + cursor key may be ??11:34
zzeusno11:34
zzeusand nothing in man11:34
centyxwow, i didn't know you could select text in nano11:34
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zzeus=\11:35
centyxah11:35
centyxyou could use gpm11:35
zzeusok... sending nano to /dev/null11:35
centyxneither beats vim w/ a good .vimrc11:35
zzeusback in vim11:35
teknoprepvi11:36
gatekeeperzzeus: mouse drag works11:36
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teknoprepvi > *11:36
teknoprepi don't know of any server os that doesn't have vi on it that is unix based11:36
teknoprepbsd unix solaris linux servers11:36
teknoprepall have it11:36
teknoprepos/40011:36
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centyxtime to go home11:38
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lafrancenight all11:39
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gatekeeperzzeus: looks like Ctrl + G gives you a list of commands and selecting text does not seem to be there11:42
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teknoprepi have 2 sound cards11:47
teknoprephow do i change the one i want to use?11:47
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crazy_penguinnight all!11:55
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teknoprepYO11:56
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teknoprephow do i make my system use my 2nd sound card?11:57
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Silver_AdeptHrm. Are there two available soundcards to use?11:59
Silver_AdeptRather, were both detected and set up?11:59
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Silver_Adept...12:02
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Silver_Adeptteknoprep: Did both of your sound cards get detected and have their packages installed?12:07
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