[12:08] <DaSkreech> Some days you have it some days you dont
[12:08] <isede> !java
[12:08] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:08] <ilda> why do i get this error when trying to use kppp ?
[12:08] <ilda> pppd: The remote system is required to authenticate itself
[12:08] <ilda> pppd: but I couldn't find any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so.pppd: (None of the available passwords would let it use an IP address.)
[12:09] <ilda> and what should i do about it ?
[12:09] <centyx> cry
[12:09] <centyx> cry hard
[12:09] <centyx> j/k
[12:09] <teknoprep> yo
[12:09] <teknoprep> i have this apt-get problem
[12:09] <teknoprep> i don't want to delete cedega tho
[12:09] <teknoprep> but its telling me to run apt-get -f instal
[12:09] <teknoprep> and when i do.. it tells me its going to get rid of cedega
[12:10] <teknoprep> ???
[12:10] <centyx> kneel in submission
[12:10] <teknoprep> negative
[12:10] <teknoprep> can't i just put that cedega on the ignore list
[12:11] <teknoprep> or take it out of the db?
[12:11] <teknoprep> so it doesn't even know its installed
[12:11] <h3sp4wn> apt-get purge cedega (will get rid of cedega for you)
[12:11] <centyx> i'm out of here
[12:11] <teknoprep> purge ?
[12:11] <ilda> no body know how to fix kppp ?
[12:12] <Zappa> Hi gues, has anyone got an experience with getting wireless cards with the broadcom chipset to work using the bcm43xx driver?
[12:12] <Zappa> this is my card: 0000:07:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[12:12] <teknoprep> h3sp4wn:  ?
[12:12] <Zappa> *guys
[12:12] <teknoprep> h3sp4wn: wtf are you talking about foo
[12:13] <DaSkreech> !ppp
[12:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about ppp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:14] <DaSkreech> ilda: I sort of remember that error
[12:14] <h3sp4wn> h3sp4wn: I don't understand
[12:14] <DaSkreech> ilda Google for pppd secret password and see if it helps
[12:14] <h3sp4wn> h3sp4wn: What you mean ?
[12:18] <DaSkreech> Hi gnomefreak
[12:19] <gnomefreak> hi
[12:20] <kOpter> Yello :) I've got a question. Is there an OS-X Icon theme for KDE?
[12:20] <kOpter> There's nothing on kde-looks.org..
[12:20] <teknoprep> liar
[12:21] <teknoprep> you just didn't look hard enough
[12:21] <teknoprep> OMFG
[12:21] <teknoprep> wtf
[12:21] <kOpter> I'm sorry?
[12:21] <DaSkreech> !lang
[12:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about lang - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:22] <DaSkreech> !language
[12:22] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:22] <DaSkreech> teknoprep: Please stop abusing people
[12:22] <teknoprep> i swear at my kids all the time
[12:22] <teknoprep> they are my family
[12:22] <DaSkreech> We are not.Be queit
[12:22] <teknoprep> wow
[12:22] <kOpter> Gnomefreak > Yeah I saw that.. but no such thing for KDE?
[12:22] <teknoprep> you guys are like the rich ppl that send ppl to war and die
[12:22] <kOpter> teknoprep > I feel sorry for them..
[12:22] <DaSkreech> kOpter: There are ones. Hold on
[12:22] <gnomefreak> not that i found you would hav eto compile it i think
[12:23] <teknoprep> kOpter yes i am greater then your feelings of your sorrow
[12:23] <kOpter> gomefreak> That shouldn't be a problem
[12:23] <gnomefreak> kOpter: take any OSX theme and compile it than i think thats all there is to it but warning themes dont like to compile
[12:24] <Riddell> teknoprep: calm down
[12:24] <kOpter> Gnomefreak > I'm running KDE 3.4 .. so I think i'll get some svg issues :)?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Riddell: kde themes are still compile yourself right?
[12:24] <teknoprep> Riddell: i am calm
[12:24] <kOpter> 3.5
[12:24] <gnomefreak> kOpter: im on 2.5.3
[12:24] <gnomefreak> 3.5.3
[12:24] <teknoprep> Riddell: i should pic myself and post... i have a great smile on my face
[12:25] <teknoprep> Riddell: like i always do
[12:25] <imandir> hi I've got a problem with apt-get
[12:25] <gnomefreak> imandir: what is it?
[12:25] <imandir> it's giving me bunch of errors
[12:25] <gnomefreak> imandir: can you paste the errors and the command to pastebin please
[12:26] <imandir> for exmaple Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[12:26] <gnomefreak> imandir: please paste the output of sudo apt-get update   on pastebin please so i can see everything
[12:27] <kOpter> Gnomefreak > Got a name of the theme I should look for?
[12:27] <imandir> what do you mean by 'pastebin' ?
[12:27] <gnomefreak> kOpter: not off hand no but take a look at kde-look.org
[12:27] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[12:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:28] <kOpter> gnomefreak > Kde look has no OS-x themes...
[12:28] <gnomefreak> kOpter: give me a min
[12:28] <kOpter> gnomefreak> Got this one: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=31618
[12:29] <gnomefreak> kOpter: the issue there is kde uses libqt and gnome uses libgtk
[12:29] <kOpter> I know :)
[12:29] <drummer> Hi, I'm running Breezy and cannot get it to see/use a flash drive.  Help please?
[12:29] <kOpter> But I've installed Tango.. shouldn't I be able to just overwrite some of the icons?
[12:30] <gnomefreak> kOpter: http://www.kde-look.org/content/search.php
[12:31] <gnomefreak> theres 5 pages there im sure theres something
[12:31] <imandir> done
[12:31] <DaSkreech> kOpter: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2242
[12:31] <kOpter> Gnomefreak > 5 pages? Just one entry: Tuxitoxh OS X.. which is crappy :)
[12:31] <gnomefreak> kOpter: im showing 5 pages
[12:32] <kOpter> Searching for? OS X?
[12:32] <imandir> I mean, I've pasted it on pastebin
[12:32] <gnomefreak> kOpter: in kde-look.org look to the right and type in osx (where it says search)
[12:32] <grizzly> ANybody using moues gestuers succesfully?
[12:32] <gnomefreak> imandir: can i have the link please
[12:33] <grizzly> urgh , i mean mouse gestures ( khotkeys)
[12:33] <imandir> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d17962
[12:33] <gnomefreak> ty brb
[12:34] <kOpter> DaSkreech -> That's just the icons, not a theme
[12:35] <kOpter> Gnomefreak > When I search KDE look ( in the icon-themes section) for OS X, I get one hit.
[12:35] <kOpter> Gnomefreak > So I assume there is no such thing...
[12:35] <gnomefreak> imandir: first off you have alot of non supported repos in your list that is the biggest errors i see so far
[12:36] <gnomefreak> kOpter: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=30780
[12:36] <gnomefreak> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=30799
[12:36] <imandir> I know, but some packages are not on 'official' reps
[12:36] <drummer> Hello?  Can anyone help me with a flash drive?????????
[12:36] <kOpter> Gnomefreak > Those are KDM themes.. not icon themes :)
[12:37] <gnomefreak> kOpter: ill look in a bit im sure there are icon themes there
[12:37] <kOpter> Gnomefreak > I'm sure there aren't :)
[12:37] <gnomefreak> imandir: first off you are _not_ supposed to keep them enabled
[12:38] <gnomefreak> imandir: second i need you to comment out _all_ the non-official repos so i can tell the difference or just comment them out and paste your sources.list file on pastebin
[12:38] <imandir> ok, will do
[12:39] <gnomefreak> kOpter: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=11317
[12:40] <kOpter> Gnomefreak : That's not an Icon theme either :)
[12:40] <kOpter> Gnomefreak: I appriciate the effort, but I don't think there are any osx icon-themes on KDE-look
[12:41] <gnomefreak> http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=22x27
[12:41] <gnomefreak> all kinds of icons
[12:41] <kOpter> Icon THEME :)
[12:41] <gnomefreak> kOpter: look at it i found one without even trying
[12:41] <lindsey> hi is there someplace i could go to read about customizing kde except for kde-look?
[12:41] <gnomefreak> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=38098
[12:42] <gnomefreak> heres 35 icon themes http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=27
[12:42] <kOpter> Yeah, that's an icon theme... but I want an OSX KDE icon theme
[12:42] <kOpter> Yeah, but no osx ones..
[12:42] <gnomefreak> kOpter: get the themes get the icons and make your own like i do
[12:43] <kOpter> Thats an option.. but I was hoping someone did it for me :)
[12:44] <kOpter> Thanks again for the effort.. I'll just have to do that then..
[12:45] <imandir> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d17963
[12:46] <imandir> gnomefreak: after commenting rest of reps it's fine
[12:47] <imandir> gnomefreak: but I cann't get kernel-headers for kernel 2.6.15-25-386
[12:47] <gnomefreak> imandir: 2.6.15-26 is current dapper kernel
[12:48] <imandir> well, i'm trying adept updater now, I've seen new kernel
[12:49] <teknoprep> get it
[12:49] <teknoprep> its a good kernel
[12:49] <imandir> new kernel on the way ;-)
[12:49] <teknoprep> w0ot
[12:49] <teknoprep> whats its number?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> 2.6.15-26
[12:50] <imandir> no, no. I mean that I'm downloading 2.6.15-26 now
[12:52] <Gun_Smoke> Problem updating today with kde.. Update worked fine with gnome.. I get the error after I enter my password "converstation with su failed"
[12:53] <aegeanlinux> new koffice is out
[12:53] <aegeanlinux> 1.5.2
[12:53] <imandir> I'll be back on  2.6.15-26, hopefully :-) ... reboot
[12:54] <aegeanlinux> I am compiling it now. From the changelog it seems like no new fetures, just bug fixes
[12:54] <centyx> gar
[12:54] <centyx> i forgot to upload the vmware-player-kernel-modules i built
[12:54] <Gun_Smoke> Any ideas?  AND, I am not able to adjust the time?!/
[12:55] <centyx> Gun_Smoke: i had that problem after i first installed. it fixed itself after a reboot
[12:55] <centyx> Gun_Smoke: the one about updating and su
[12:55] <centyx> afk
[12:58] <DrBair> !restricted
[12:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:03] <serenity> and write
[01:05] <bruenig> Is there anyway except writing bash scripts into the ~/.kde/Autostart directory to create startup programs, It's not that I mind writing the scripts but It seems like something that probably has a graphical way of doing it
[01:06] <nnn0> forget graphical
[01:06] <nnn0> :)
[01:06] <nnn0> it's just a fad
[01:06] <nnn0> :D
[01:06] <madraykin> <3 graphical
[01:06] <madraykin> lol
[01:06] <nnn0> we'll be back to console in notime
[01:07] <nnn0> only now with voice recognition :D
[01:07] <bruenig> the scripts are easy you know, just paths but I figured there is probably a way to do it seeing as there is one in GNOME and it doesn't seem like too hard a think to make graphical
[01:07] <nnn0> ehehe
[01:08] <bruenig> just switched over from GNOME, still a bit lost. So nobody knows how to setup startup programs graphically?
[01:09] <pedro> Good night everyone
[01:09] <pedro> I have a dude that I could't solve still
[01:09] <abattoir> bruenig: if you have session mgmt. on, apps open in the previous session would be restored...
[01:09] <abattoir> are you looking for something like that?
[01:09] <nnn0> bruenig, the sooner you learn to use cli, the better :)
[01:09] <bruenig> lol
[01:09] <madraykin> well, what exactly do you want to start up?  I think you can just drag a menu item into that directory and it will work
[01:09] <pedro> when I use ifconfig it show me an inet adress that is different to my ip
[01:09] <madraykin> but yeah they stay open if you close kde
[01:09] <madraykin> and reopen
[01:09] <bruenig> i can use it and do but don't want to missing out on something
[01:09] <madraykin> they come back up ;)
[01:10] <nnn0> pedro, it's probably your local IP :)
[01:10] <pedro> ok
[01:10] <pedro> I am a newbie
[01:10] <pedro> and I have some confusion about that
[01:11] <madraykin> local ip is usually 198.*
[01:11] <madraykin> :P
[01:11] <nnn0> pedro, if you run a router with a firewall and NAT and stuff, you have one local and one external IP
[01:11] <bruenig> well whatever, i only have two programs i need at startup anyways
[01:11] <pedro> but if I would like to know that ip (the one that start with 192.168what do I have to do?
[01:11] <pedro> I have a router
[01:12] <nnn0> eh
[01:12] <nnn0> ifconfig
[01:12] <nnn0> ?
[01:12] <nnn0> :)
[01:13] <pedro> No
[01:13] <pedro> I cannot see that information
[01:13] <nnn0> you can only see that you mean ? but not the external IP
[01:13] <nnn0> which is 83.39.185.134
[01:14] <nnn0> that's the IP i see, you see the 192.168.X.X one
[01:14] <pedro> well, in the space of inet adress I can see another number that is not that one and doesn't start with 192.168...
[01:14] <madraykin> ifconfig should say something like  inet addr:192.168.0.2
[01:14] <madraykin> as mine says
[01:15] <nnn0> it doesn't have to start with 192.168... i could be 10.0.0... for instance
[01:15] <pedro> mine don't
[01:15] <madraykin> yeah
[01:15] <madraykin> what nnn0 said
[01:15] <madraykin> lol
[01:15] <madraykin> :P
[01:15] <nnn0> hehe
[01:15] <imandir> welcome back on new kernel
[01:15] <madraykin> =] 
[01:15] <imandir> but still no kernel-headers for 2.6.15-26-386
[01:16] <pedro> But in this moment I have ports open on an ip adress that is not the one I can see on inet addr
[01:16] <pedro> that shows me a very strange number
[01:16] <nnn0> how strange ?
[01:16] <pedro> could it be a configuration's problem?
[01:16] <pedro> well
[01:17] <madraykin> I guess that's just what kubuntu set the ip to
[01:17] <bruenig> anytime I open some graphical app from the Command line I get this long ass error and then it works. Is there anyway to stop that damn thing from outputting the error?
[01:17] <madraykin> you can change it manually pedro..if you want
[01:17] <nnn0> pedro, do you have both ethernet and wireless maybe ?
[01:17] <madraykin> but i dont want to mess up your net
[01:17] <pedro> in theory don't
[01:17] <pedro> I have disabled wireless
[01:17] <nnn0> k
[01:18] <pedro> what's the way to change the ip?
[01:18] <madraykin> in control panel > network setitngs you can change your local ip
[01:18] <nnn0> just use ifconfig
[01:18] <blake_> Hey, is wireless networking fairly intuitive with kubuntu?
[01:18] <madraykin> or that
[01:18] <madraykin> <--like s gui
[01:18] <madraykin> lol
[01:18] <pedro> aj
[01:18] <nnn0> heh i guess the gui would be easier
[01:19] <pedro> but the question is that, in this moment, it looks like that the real ip and the one that shows ifconfig is not the same
[01:19] <pedro> If I change it, I probable could't know the new ip
[01:19] <pedro> do I explain correctly?
[01:19] <nnn0> not really - give us the IP :)
[01:20] <pedro> ;)
[01:20] <pedro> I am not sure what can you do with that number
[01:20] <pedro> ;)
[01:21] <nnn0> we will see if it's a local ip or not
[01:21] <teknoprep> anyone here use kbfx ?
[01:22] <mossman> Hello all.  Trying to change a cvs file that was exported by a MS app called buisness contacts.  Part of the file seems to be binary,  the rest of the text is seperated by commas though OOOorg opens the file but fails to sperate text into colums,  which makes it difficult to sort.  there are over 10,000 names, address and phone numbers,  I do not really want to tackle this manualy?  Any suggestions?
[01:23] <Desh> Does anyone know how to get fglrx to work on a Mobility Radeon 9700?
[01:23] <Blissex> mossman: depends on how it was generated, there are several types of CSV (not CVS) files.
[01:24] <imandir> ok, thanks all of you for help, time to sleep ;-)
[01:24] <mossman> Yes. Sorry for the typo.  It was generated by an app I am not familure with.  Similar to outlook,  but a more polished version
[01:25] <teknoprep> Desh keep trying its not easy
[01:25] <teknoprep> Desh i had to do that back in the day... took me alot of work
[01:25] <Desh> :( Ok.
[01:25] <teknoprep> Desh: try easyubuntu
[01:25] <teknoprep> Desh: that might simplify things
[01:25] <Desh> Maybe my Linux is a Penix.
[01:25] <Desh> What's that?
[01:25] <teknoprep> Desh: did you run fglrxconfig
[01:25] <Desh> Yes.
[01:25] <teknoprep> !easyubuntu
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[01:25] <teknoprep> try that
[01:25] <Desh> Hmm ok thanks.
[01:25] <teknoprep> goto the site
[01:26] <teknoprep> and follow the instructions... it does alot more then just have good video drivers
[01:26] <mossman> Desh: I think ATI drivers you can download only support cards 800 or better
[01:26] <teknoprep> nope
[01:26] <teknoprep> not try
[01:26] <teknoprep> true
[01:27] <mossman> No wait, Sorry Desh. It is X700 or better
[01:27] <Desh> Man, the things people have done with Linux is quite amazing.
[01:27] <mossman> easyubuntu should help yo there
[01:27] <teknoprep> agreed
[01:28] <Desh> mossman: All the fglrx FAQs state the 9500+'s are also supported.
[01:28] <teknoprep> i find linux is much better then windows now
[01:28] <teknoprep> it used to suck for a desktop os back in the day
[01:28] <teknoprep> now it just owns
[01:28] <Desh> Anyways, man I have tried everything from the normal setup to trying to make my own driver from the sources
[01:28] <teknoprep> as a server its been almost always better
[01:29] <Desh> Yeah, if only my Premiere Pro ran on here. :(
[01:29] <teknoprep> ?
[01:29] <Desh> I miss being able to edit video.
[01:29] <mossman> Umm,  could be.  I had trouble with an older radeon last year and found out it wasn't supported. It was a x600 model.  They may be supported now
[01:29] <teknoprep> lol
[01:29] <teknoprep> you sure it doesn't run?
[01:30] <teknoprep> i bet you could get a driver working for it
[01:30] <teknoprep> someone wrote one somewhere
[01:30] <teknoprep> hell it might even be in the kernel already too
[01:30] <nnn0> Desh, have you tried Cinelerra
[01:30] <mossman> Blissex:  Any idea how to break down this file into a more human readable form?
[01:30] <teknoprep> ?
[01:30] <blake_> Whats the command to restart X?
[01:31] <blake_> er, KDE
[01:31] <teknoprep> ctrl + alt + backspace
[01:31] <blake_> ty
[01:31] <Desh> nnn0: I did on Breezy, but when I try to install it from adept it says BREAK (install)
[01:31] <Blissex> mossman: OOo whould be able to read it, and save it in a nicer form, depends again on which type of CSV it is.
[01:31] <nnn0> k
[01:31] <Desh> nnn0: But it has always been laggy for me, maybe b/c of my crappy video drivers.
[01:32] <teknoprep> dude the new dell xps keyboards suck ass
[01:32] <blake_> Hey, could someone help me
[01:33] <teknoprep> no
[01:33] <blake_> I cant get transparency to work
[01:33] <teknoprep> lol
[01:33] <blake_> it crashes KDE
[01:33] <mossman> Yes,  OOO can read it.  It just doesn't want to space the text so,I,get,one,long,line,like,this,per,sentance.I would like to be able to seperate them.  I will keep trying.  There must be a way.  There may even be a nice perl script that can handle it.  Must search a little bit more :)
[01:33] <teknoprep> what video card do you have?
[01:33] <teknoprep> blake_: what video card do you have?
[01:33] <blake_> Radeon 9200
[01:33] <teknoprep> yeah
[01:33] <teknoprep> you won't get it to work with that peice of shit
[01:33] <mossman> lol
[01:33] <nnn0> eheh
[01:33] <Desh> Ouch.
[01:33] <blake_> seems like a 256 meg card should handle linux gfx ..
[01:33] <Desh> 9200 is not that bad, I have it on a Desktop.
[01:34] <Desh> Still runs DOom3 and stuff.
[01:34] <blake_> Yes
[01:34] <teknoprep> yes its bad
[01:34] <teknoprep> its horrid
[01:34] <blake_> If it can run Quake 4 I would assume it could run transparency
[01:34] <teknoprep> you aren't going to do transparencies with it
[01:34] <teknoprep> blake_: negative
[01:34] <Desh> Heh. Can you do transperencies with a 9700 mobility?
[01:34] <blake_> Could you at least tell me what to change it xorg? :(
[01:34] <teknoprep> blake_: its not the capacity of the card but the quality of the dirvers that ati writes for your card in linux
[01:34] <mossman> I like my apps parent :P
[01:35] <Desh> Oh.
[01:35] <teknoprep> Desh: i heard they fixed trans for ATI's so yes it should work fine
[01:35] <blake_> so I can try, and fail
[01:35] <teknoprep> blake_: if you want eye candy get a better computer
[01:35] <easynintendo> tekno is he trying to run XGL?
[01:35] <Desh> blake_: Then you can run Vista on it. :-P
[01:36] <teknoprep> blake_: you could try ubuntu-desktop .... run gnome.. and get the gnome trans working... ask the guys in ubuntu about gnome trans
[01:36] <teknoprep> easynintendo: naw kde transparencies
[01:36] <easynintendo> tekno
[01:36] <easynintendo> where are any transparency settings in KDE?
[01:36] <teknoprep> easynintendo
[01:36] <easynintendo> you mean for menues and stuff?
[01:36] <teknoprep> nono
[01:36] <h3sp4wn> easynintendo: Do you use zsnes ?
[01:37] <teknoprep> right click any window -> Configure Window Behaiviour
[01:37] <teknoprep> then click translucency on the left hand side
[01:37] <easynintendo> h3sp4wn i do in windows
[01:37] <Desh> libqt-perl - what is this?
[01:37] <teknoprep> you have to enable it in the xorg.conf tho
[01:37] <easynintendo> oh
[01:37] <easynintendo> im not gonna worry about it
[01:37] <easynintendo> KDE hogs enough resources as it is
[01:37] <teknoprep> Section "Extensions"
[01:37] <teknoprep>     Option         "Composite" "Enable"
[01:37] <teknoprep> EndSection
[01:37] <Desh> what is libqt-perl?
[01:38] <teknoprep> its a qt perl library
[01:38] <easynintendo> im assuming its a qt per library
[01:38] <teknoprep> hence its name
[01:38] <easynintendo> thats what i was gonna say
[01:38] <easynintendo> lol
[01:38] <teknoprep> lol
[01:38] <h3sp4wn> easynintendo: I was wondering of starting a repository for the laster WIP releases of zsnes (they are alot better than the old version in the repos)
[01:38] <easynintendo> you want to host your own repository?
[01:39] <teknoprep> isn't a repo just a web server?
[01:39] <easynintendo> yes
[01:39] <teknoprep> w0ot
[01:39] <h3sp4wn> Yes but it has to be setup in a certain way
[01:39] <teknoprep> i own you ALL
[01:39] <h3sp4wn> You don't own me
[01:39] <teknoprep> negative
[01:39] <teknoprep> i do
[01:39] <teknoprep> you just don't know it yet
[01:39] <easynintendo> h3sp4wn just grab the latest zsnes from www.zsnes.com
[01:39] <easynintendo> no need for a repository lol
[01:40] <teknoprep> he wants to be noticed
[01:40] <teknoprep> and if he has a kubuntu repo for zsnes he would be
[01:40] <teknoprep> sorta
[01:40] <teknoprep> s/things/thinks
[01:40] <Desh> hey teknoprep, what's libqt-perl?
[01:41] <h3sp4wn> easynintendo: No zsnes 1.42 is alot different to the WIP 1.43 (especially with sdl support) I thought people who were into zsnes emulation would want a version that works alot better
[01:41] <teknoprep> Desh: qt perl library
[01:41] <Desh> I told easyubuntu to do a bunch of stuff I already had, ike flash and java, is that bad?
[01:41] <teknoprep> Desh: hmmm
[01:41] <blake_> This is probably a stupid question, but why don't I have write access to xorg.conf?
[01:41] <h3sp4wn> easynintendo: But edgy won't even have the wip build
[01:41] <easynintendo> h3sp4wn most people who are into emulators also have a copy of windows
[01:41] <easynintendo> and 1.42 is nearly perfect in windows
[01:42] <Desh> blake_: sudo kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:42] <h3sp4wn> easynintendo: at 1280by1024 ?
[01:42] <teknoprep> blake_: becuase its for root only
[01:42] <h3sp4wn> easynintendo: Will all affects on ?
[01:42] <teknoprep> blake_: sudo nano /ext/X11/xorg.conf
[01:42] <teknoprep> learn your shell tools
[01:42] <easynintendo> h3sp4wn i run at 1600 x 1200 in super2xsai mode
[01:42] <teknoprep> hell learn vi
[01:42] <teknoprep> its awesome
[01:42] <easynintendo> just fine, even in the superFX chip games
[01:42] <Desh> I know nano, but what's vi?
[01:43] <teknoprep> vi > *
[01:43] <teknoprep> if you learn it
[01:43] <Desh> *?
[01:43] <h3sp4wn> easynintendo: You can use the 4hk mode or whatever fine now
[01:43] <teknoprep> * = everything
[01:43] <Desh> Thought so.
[01:43] <Desh> But what is it?
[01:43] <teknoprep> open konsole noob
[01:43] <h3sp4wn> easynintendo: You know the really high processor power one
[01:43] <teknoprep> and type
[01:43] <teknoprep> vi
[01:43] <teknoprep> try man vi
[01:43] <teknoprep> Desh: man vi
[01:43] <Desh> vi is a screen-oriented text editor computer program written by Bill Joy in 1976 for an early BSD release. The name comes from the shortest unambiguous abbreviation for the command visual in ex. The command in question switches the line editor ex to visual mode.
[01:43] <bobbyd> hi
[01:44] <teknoprep> lol have fun even exiting vi
[01:44] <teknoprep> hahaha
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> Desh: man vmtutor
[01:44] <teknoprep> :q
[01:44] <bobbyd> I'm using azureus in dapper and it's popups hide the system tray and the buttons don't work to cancel it. Is this a known issue, and if so, how do I fix it? :)
[01:45] <Desh> Why is libqt-perl taking forever to set up?
[01:45] <teknoprep> azureus is on linux now?
[01:45] <Desh> Setting up libqt-perl (3.008-1.4) ...
[01:45] <teknoprep> Desh: i dunno
[01:45] <easynintendo> h3sp4n tekno azureus has been on linux for like 4 years
[01:45] <bobbyd> teknoprep, has been for ages
[01:45] <teknoprep> Desh: how slow is your computer
[01:45] <easynintendo> lol sorry
[01:45] <teknoprep> ok all
[01:45] <easynintendo> tekno*
[01:45] <flaccid__> az on linux yes
[01:45] <teknoprep> i don't use linux as a desktop
[01:45] <MrKeuner> Hi, I have isntalle kubuntu-desktop while still keeping with ubuntu-desktop. I think I should have screwed something playing with settings in KDE system preferences; when I boot into gnome desktop same font same size is now smaller. I can easily compare them since I have two ubuntu-desktop systems here.(one without kubuntu-desktop) What could be the problem? thanks
[01:45] <Desh> teknoprep: AMD 3200+
[01:45] <teknoprep> i have been stuck in a nix shell for the last 10 years
[01:45] <bobbyd> teknoprep, that's helpful :)
[01:45] <teknoprep> from tcsh ksh bash and all that crap
[01:46] <teknoprep> bsd > linux
[01:46] <teknoprep> for a server
[01:46] <bobbyd> MrKeuner, did you change to the Nvidia binary driver on one and not the other?
[01:46] <Desh> Man = manual?
[01:46] <teknoprep> but wow linux has come a long way for desktops
[01:47] <dive-o> teknoprep: agreed
[01:47] <notamisfit> tried freebsd for a desktop for a little while
[01:47] <madraykin> yeah, it has come A LONG way
[01:47] <teknoprep> pf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iptables
[01:47] <madraykin> I can't wait for kde 4.0
[01:47] <dive-o> I use BSD on all my servers save the one at work that runs Debian
[01:47] <easynintendo> freebsd is a pile of shit
[01:48] <teknoprep> openbsd > *bsd
[01:48] <dive-o> freebsd doesn't support my desktop NEARLY as well as ubuntu
[01:48] <madraykin> kde > gnome
[01:48] <madraykin> lol
[01:48] <easynintendo> gentoo is by far the most stable unix platform when built properly
[01:48] <easynintendo> for servers
[01:48] <teknoprep> dive-o: again... server based moron
[01:48] <dive-o> er, no
[01:48] <teknoprep> dive-o: why would you put X on a server?
[01:48] <dive-o> teknoprep: heh
[01:48] <dive-o> teknoprep: I was referring to using BSD on my desktop
[01:48] <teknoprep> dive-o: i was not
[01:49] <teknoprep> dive-o: so your comment is nil
[01:49] <dive-o> if you see above, you'll see that I stated I was talking about BSD on servers and how it wasn't an optimal desktop
[01:49] <erikson> no hdwr drivers in frebsd , or up to date ones at least and it's a real job to install...it should be the difficult if berkley wants to spread the news
[01:49] <dive-o> but you're being a typical OpenBSD troll, so nevermind
[01:49] <aegeanlinux> Ladies and G's, I g2g
[01:49] <aegeanlinux> Toodles Y'all
[01:49] <teknoprep> erikson: again you don't know what you are talking about
[01:50] <erikson> should be less difficult
[01:50] <teknoprep> erikson: openbsd ralink 2500 drivers can put a ralink wireless chipset into master mode while the linux one can not
[01:50] <madraykin> I tried bsd for the desktop
[01:50] <madraykin> it was ok actually
[01:50] <madraykin> o.O
[01:50] <erikson> teknoprep: I tried it with help , it sucks
[01:50] <sysrpl> does anyone here thing gimp like applications are horrid? you know the ones with mutliple floating windows that can hide behind the windows of other open applications ...
[01:50] <teknoprep> erikson: that is just one of the many benefits over linux bsd has
[01:51] <gnomefreak> sysrpl: please join #kubuntu-offtopic for that
[01:51] <erikson> not into wireless , so it doesn't matter
[01:51] <Desh> Does BSD make ATI work? :)
[01:51] <bobbyd> sysrpl, try gimpshop
[01:51] <teknoprep> Desh: gd it... its a server
[01:51] <unix_infidel> teknoprep: that's ONE card on the BSD platform...that doesnt make one better than the other.
[01:51] <sysrpl> i run at 1200x800 and its still a problem
[01:51] <madraykin> does gimpshop actually make the windows..non floaty..
[01:51] <madraykin> lol
[01:51] <teknoprep> Desh: bsd is like anti desktop os.. although you can still doit.. its just painfully stupid
[01:51] <madraykin> ?
[01:51] <dive-o> heh
[01:51] <dive-o> BSD makes a fine desktop
[01:51] <gnomefreak> teknoprep: first off bsd is not a server alone second take it to #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:51] <bobbyd> madraykin, it puts them all on the one window, i think :)
[01:52] <madraykin> ohh i may have to try that
[01:52] <madraykin> I'm always loosing my windows and panels
[01:52] <madraykin> lol
[01:52] <gnomefreak> bobbyd: nope same as gimp with menus changed around
[01:52] <teknoprep> gnomefreak: actually openbsd made ssh... so yes openbsd is a server with the standard instal
[01:52] <teknoprep> gnomefreak: any other questions?
[01:52] <Desh> teknoprep: I knwo it's server which is why I use Linux, but I was just wondering.
[01:52] <bobbyd> sysrpl, of course in kde you can have them always on top
[01:52] <dive-o> openbsd did not make ssh
[01:52] <gnomefreak> teknoprep: -offtopic
[01:52] <sysrpl> really?
[01:53] <teknoprep> gnomefreak: i should say openssh
[01:53] <bobbyd> you know
[01:53] <sysrpl> well i use a tool like glade interface designer, and between the pallet, main window, designer, property window, and widget tree it's WAY too hard to use because windows keep getting lost
[01:53] <bobbyd> you're all wrong
[01:53] <MrKeuner> bobbyd/ binary driver was already installed when I installed kubuntu-desktop too I did not play with binary settings on anywhere
[01:53] <sysrpl> especially when tabing to other windows to copy code
[01:53] <bobbyd> RiscOS is better than cheese
[01:53] <dive-o> teknoprep: I recommend we go to the -offtopic channel
[01:53] <gnomefreak> nalioth: ?
[01:53] <mazurskie> sysrpl: match point
[01:53] <teknoprep> dive-o: mad admins... power hunger... bleh
[01:53] <bobbyd> MrKeuner, ok, it's just I've seen the font size change sometimes when you use the binary driver as opposed to the free one
[01:53] <sysrpl> match point?
[01:53] <Desh> easyubuntu did mot modify my xorg.conf :(
[01:53] <teknoprep> no one is asking anything
[01:54] <teknoprep> Desh: fglrxconfig
[01:54] <sysrpl> no, glade interface designer
[01:54] <MrKeuner> bobbyd/ I played with gtk application settings in KDE but reversed them already still I have smaller fonts than ususal
[01:54] <bobbyd> MrKeuner, i just use the "use the same thing for gtk as kde" setting set and it seems to work
[01:54] <nalioth> gnomefreak: may i help you?
[01:54] <mazurskie> sysrpl: winning point
[01:55] <mazurskie> tennis
[01:55] <teknoprep> Desh: you may have to learn how to write your own xorg.conf or download someone elses working xorg.conf
[01:55] <gnomefreak> read my message in -op
[01:55] <teknoprep> Desh: sing fglrxconfig is a pos
[01:55] <sysrpl> i must have missed that point because i didn't get what you are referencing
[01:55] <gnomefreak> ty
[01:55] <mazurskie> tabbing windows
[01:55] <gnomefreak> now please move to kubntu-offtopic
[01:55] <madraykin> thank gawd
[01:55] <Desh> teknoprep: I have edited xorf.conf before, I basically know how it works, but somehow I need to alter some setting since mesa always takes over oPENgl
[01:59] <madraykin> wtf
[01:59] <madraykin> was that
[01:59] <denis_> hey, i just installed kubuntu, question: what do i do to adept manager to get a full listing of files?
[01:59] <teknoprep> ?
[02:01] <denis_> anyone?
[02:01] <teknoprep> ?
[02:01] <unix_infidel> denis_: ask a more detailed question.
[02:01] <erikson> denis open it , click on fetch updates, then on apply changes
[02:01] <mossman> denis:  adept should already have a full listing of supported repositorys
[02:01] <denis_> ok. i thought i was supposed to do something in the manage repositories section
[02:02] <gnomefreak> you can add/remove repos from there iirc
[02:02] <denis_> huh? something about the multiverse thing?
[02:02] <madraykin> you can enable those
[02:02] <madraykin> yes
[02:03] <gnomefreak> denis_: yes
[02:03] <denis_> ok, now enabling those - how do i EXACTLY do it
[02:03] <gnomefreak> adept decided it didnt like me so uninstalled itself if i get it back up and running i will show you
[02:03] <denis_> asides from hitting enable
[02:04] <erikson> denis_:  and don't forget , http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.htm...this works for a lot of stuff , americans aren't supposed to use but it's pwrfectly legal for us canucks :)
[02:05] <denis_> lol @ erikson. yeah yeah. "canucks"
[02:05] <madraykin> Open adept ... adept menu > manage repositories
[02:06] <madraykin> find the ones that say multiverse, right click..enable, click apply
[02:06] <denis_> ok.
[02:06] <denis_> done.
[02:06] <denis_> now what
[02:06] <madraykin> then click 'fetch updates' so it pulls stuff out from those repositories
[02:06] <madraykin> :)
[02:06] <SpAwN> is it possible to resize a partion.......i made my /home partio to small..and want to take some off of a partion im not even using
[02:07] <madraykin> SpAwn I belive QT Parted can
[02:07] <madraykin> I'd run that from the live cd.
[02:08] <SpAwN> madraykin, the disk partioner on the live dvd compleatly messed up my partion about 2 days ago
[02:08] <SpAwN> i dont trust it at all
[02:08] <notamisfit> I've had similar problems w/ the partitioner
[02:08] <madraykin> oh
[02:08] <madraykin> =x
[02:08] <SpAwN> i love everything i had cuz of it
[02:08] <madraykin> I've used it..no trouble
[02:08] <madraykin> but i'd be careful then
[02:08] <madraykin> lol
[02:09] <SpAwN> hehe i wont use it
[02:09] <SpAwN> not gonna risk it
[02:09] <madraykin> yeah
[02:09] <madraykin> not sure what else you can do =x
[02:09] <notamisfit> i prefer fdisk myself
[02:09] <SpAwN> theres no other disk utility i can use to do it
[02:09] <SpAwN> ?
[02:09] <OOD> you can try gparted
[02:10] <nixternal> qtparted
[02:10] <SpAwN> OOD, thats diff then the one on the live dvd?
[02:10] <madraykin> i think thats based on the same thing though
[02:10] <madraykin> QT parted is just a front end for parted, if i'm correct, lol *not very tech here*
[02:10] <nixternal> yup
[02:10] <madraykin> apparently that messed up his partitions before, nix
[02:10] <madraykin> so he wants to use something else
[02:10] <SpAwN> yea
[02:10] <nixternal> but when you "format" from the LiveCD, that is what youa re looking at
[02:11] <nixternal> doh
[02:11] <nixternal> i didn't scroll up..to lazy ;)
[02:11] <madraykin> lol
[02:11] <SpAwN> i dont trust the livedvd partioner
[02:11] <nixternal> fsdisk
[02:11] <nixternal> fdisk rather
[02:11] <nixternal> something
[02:11] <nixternal> im goin' back to bbq ;)
[02:11] <madraykin> :D
[02:12] <SpAwN> hmm
[02:12] <SpAwN> fdisk looks like i could easyily mess up everything
[02:12] <erikson> yup
[02:12] <notamisfit> you can. that's the beauty of it.
[02:12] <madraykin> I'm scared of fdisk
[02:12] <madraykin> lol
[02:12] <SpAwN> im kicking myself in the ass for making the partion to small
[02:12] <nnn0> :)
[02:12] <erikson> try GParted
[02:13] <notamisfit> if you think linux fdisk is bad, give the openbsd one a shot
[02:13] <madraykin> do you really think qt parted was the cause of the bug though or parted..because if it was parted gparted wont matter
[02:13] <madraykin> o.O
[02:13] <nnn0> i usually use System Restore, it even got Acronis Disc Director on it
[02:13] <nnn0> nononnoo
[02:13] <nnn0> i mean Hiren's boot cd
[02:14] <SpAwN> madraykin, i stared at the partions for like 10 mins b4 i commited to it....it labled my partions wrong.....said sda8 was sd5 and all mixed and matched
[02:14] <madraykin> hmm
[02:14] <madraykin> might be qtparted then
[02:14] <madraykin> could try gparted
[02:14] <madraykin> might wanna backup your stuff
[02:14] <madraykin> just to be safe
[02:15] <SpAwN> yea
[02:15] <erikson> <--- a firm believer in partioning a disk before installation ...then you have the options during the install and you what's already there
[02:15] <madraykin> do you guys think its important to have a /home partition?
[02:15] <madraykin> normally i dont even use one
[02:15] <SpAwN> yea i wish i had thought it out better...but forgot how much space games take
[02:15] <h3sp4wn> A firmbeliver of always having / /boot and /home
[02:15] <dan> its not important but its help full
[02:15] <h3sp4wn> ^^
[02:16] <madraykin> I tend to not do a /home partitions because of games
[02:16] <madraykin> lol
[02:16] <madraykin> they take up a lot of space, so i cant be sure
[02:16] <SpAwN> madraykin, huh what u mean?
[02:16] <madraykin> I normally dont make a home partition
[02:17] <madraykin> then i dont have to worry about space
[02:17] <madraykin> lol
[02:17] <SpAwN> hehe well what happens when a games needs to make a folder in the ~/ folder
[02:18] <mossman> It is important to have a home partition,  mostly for the reason if you install a new OS  or need to reinstall it can be kept protected from all system files.
[02:18] <madraykin> well, I mean..I still have the /home folder...it just isnt a seperate partition
[02:18] <SpAwN> ohhhhhhh got ya
[02:18] <madraykin> yes, true moss
[02:19] <mossman> That is the way I see it,  after much trial and error from Caldrea Open Linux in 1996 to today
[02:20] <mossman> Though SpAwN,  You could always make a seperate partition called /games or whatever you like and store all games there
[02:21] <mossman> you could even map that to a seperate Hard Drive.  Which would make sense if you are a big gamer
[02:21] <SpAwN> mossman, yea ill just make my /home partion a little bigger........im not sure how to set up the games to store things there
[02:22] <mossman> What are the names of the games?  Loki games could be setup in any directory you like for example.
[02:22] <Dasnipa] [> 
[02:23] <SpAwN> well i play alot of enemy territory adn games with cedega both of which stored local files and stuff in the users home dir........like in it when u dl a map it stores it in you home dir
[02:23] <SpAwN> well with afolder with the home dir
[02:24] <mossman> true.  Cedega likes the ~.cedega/Program Files  etc
[02:24] <SpAwN> yea same with enemy territory... it used ~/.etwolf
[02:24] <mazurskie> 
[02:24] <madraykin> Could you just move the cedega directory entirely, on another partition, and make a link of it in /home/user ?
[02:24] <aegeanlinux> yes
[02:24] <aegeanlinux> you could just do that
[02:24] <madraykin> that would be a simple fix
[02:24] <madraykin> :)
[02:25] <mossman> Perhaps you could simply cp that Transgaming Drive  to a sperate partition and ln -s
[02:25] <SpAwN> whats about et?
[02:25] <mossman> ET  Phone home
[02:25] <madraykin> lol
[02:25] <SpAwN> like if i go join a server and it needs to dl a map
[02:25] <mossman> oh,, you mean Enemy Ter...  K..
[02:26] <madraykin> it'll downlooad onto the new partition
[02:26] <madraykin> because it's linked
[02:26] <madraykin> assuming it goes into .cedega
[02:27] <mossman> .ET  holds config files and saved games for the game ET I would suppose.  I bet the game is installed in /usr/local/games somewhere.  Not familure with that game,
[02:27] <madraykin> oh
[02:27] <SpAwN> so if everything is in .folder now...i move it to the new partion then make a link with ln -s /new/partion/.folder /home/user/.folder
[02:28] <madraykin> yes
[02:28] <mossman> That should do the trick.
[02:28] <SpAwN> hmm let me give it a shot
[02:28] <madraykin> k :)
[02:29] <mossman> Can you tell me a little more about enemy Territory?  Is that a native Linux game?  Or does winex handle that one?
[02:30] <aegeanlinux> It is a native Linux game
[02:30] <aegeanlinux> just google for it
[02:30] <aegeanlinux> it is free
[02:30] <madraykin> brb..going to install kubuntu
[02:30] <SpAwN> mossman, its such a good game
[02:31] <madraykin> does it cost anything?
[02:31] <madraykin> oh wait..i need to read
[02:31] <madraykin> woops
[02:31] <SpAwN> http://zerowing.idsoftware.com:6969/
[02:31] <mossman> Is it? But is it a linux game,  or does it run through wine?
[02:31] <madraykin> linux game
[02:31] <SpAwN> its made FOR linux
[02:32] <SpAwN> its wolfenstien:wenemy territory
[02:32] <SpAwN> *enemy
[02:32] <SpAwN> its a online 1st person shooter
[02:32] <SpAwN> theres like a good amount of mods...and a whole shitload of maps availible for it
[02:32] <madraykin> think it would run ok on 256mb of ram?
[02:33] <SpAwN> what kinda cpu
[02:33] <SpAwN> it needs direct rendering and opengl
[02:33] <madraykin> pentium 4 2.6ghz
[02:33] <mossman> ok,  cool.  Ohh It is Wolfenstien.  OK. I have tried escape from Castle W.  Haven't finished it yet though.  Maybe someday.  I still haven't finsihed Castle Wolfenstien the original yet either though
[02:33] <madraykin> i believe
[02:33] <SpAwN> madraykin, yes
[02:33] <madraykin> and nvidia
[02:33] <madraykin> cool
[02:33] <SpAwN> mossman, the enemy territoy is online only
[02:34] <SpAwN> mossman, WAY WAY better the a standalone game
[02:34] <SpAwN> madraykin, u should be able to  play it
[02:34] <madraykin> Spawn do you play diablo II?
[02:34] <madraykin> heh
[02:34] <mossman> Online only. So like quake3 on steroids?
[02:34] <SpAwN> mossman, its better in in my opinion
[02:34] <SpAwN> madraykin, no i dont
[02:34] <madraykin> ah
[02:34] <madraykin> thought you might
[02:34] <SpAwN> mossman, its built off the quake 3 engine though
[02:35] <madraykin> runs well in cedega, lol
[02:35] <SpAwN> or it uses it......
[02:35] <madraykin> anywho..i'll download it..whats your nickname on there?
[02:35] <madraykin> then i can add you or something
[02:35] <madraykin> :P
[02:35] <SpAwN> hehe cedega and kubuntu ran like crap for me
[02:35] <madraykin> did it?
[02:35] <madraykin> slow?
[02:35] <madraykin> O.o
[02:35] <mossman> I also had trouble with Cedega and Kubuntu
[02:36] <SpAwN> madraykin, i use the nick FuBaR or [HeLL]  FuBar
[02:36] <madraykin> ok
[02:36] <madraykin> cool
[02:36] <SpAwN> and usaly play on larger servers
[02:36] <SpAwN> .....theres quite a few servers
[02:36] <mossman> The latest Monkey Island game would refuse to install or play,  though cedega offically supports it
[02:36] <madraykin> huh
[02:36] <SpAwN> yea on mandriva it worked WAY better
[02:36] <madraykin> odd
[02:36] <madraykin> diablo II works fine in kubuntu and cedega for me
[02:37] <SpAwN> i was able to play cs:s fullscreen no prob
[02:37] <SpAwN> on jubuntu it wont even load on fullscreen
[02:37] <SpAwN> *kubuntu
[02:37] <madraykin> weird
[02:37] <SpAwN> yea
[02:37] <SpAwN> i thought so
[02:37] <madraykin> mandriva supports cedega really well though
[02:37] <madraykin> i had good exeriences with them too
[02:37] <SpAwN> i also benchmarked mandriva and kubuntu and mandriva scored alomost a 1000 more points or w/e u might wanna call it
[02:38] <mossman> Mandrake used to support a transgaming distribution...I wonder if some of that was merged into their latest distros
[02:38] <madraykin> yeah..I remember that
[02:38] <madraykin> they had a gaming distro..or something.
[02:38] <SpAwN> well mandriva is going downhill.....
[02:38] <mossman> They have been going downhill for years
[02:38] <SpAwN> part of the reason for me switching distros
[02:39] <SpAwN> but hey they made one hell of a desktop linux distro
[02:39] <madraykin> it seems like...they don't do much...more.  I don't know, I never see anything knew on mandriva..just seems to stay still
[02:39] <madraykin> I like suse because they continue to go forward..but its too slow for my 256mb of ram
[02:39] <doppelganger> anyone know where the kmenu.png is located that is used on the taskbar?
[02:39] <doppelganger> i've searched, and i see a few, i want to change it
[02:39] <SpAwN> madraykin, i use suse 10.0 on a 700 mhz p3 with 128 ram
[02:39] <SpAwN> lol
[02:40] <mossman> I still miss slackware.  I has a slackfan for many years,  though I tried Kubuntu recently as it was recommended by someoner I trust,  I must say, this is as closest to a "binary-only" distro I have tried yet.
[02:40] <madraykin> heh
[02:40] <madraykin> what desktop though?
[02:40] <SpAwN> kde lol
[02:40] <SpAwN> but
[02:40] <madraykin> really?
[02:40] <madraykin> is it slow for you?
[02:40] <madraykin> lol
[02:40] <madraykin> o.O
[02:40] <madraykin> I cant imagine
[02:40] <SpAwN> well i dont realy use it.....it doesnt even have a monitor
[02:40] <dive-o> I used to use slackware all the time
[02:40] <SpAwN> or keyboard or mouse.....it remote into it
[02:40] <SpAwN> and use ssh to control it
[02:40] <dive-o> back in the pre-slack96 says until maybe 1998
[02:40] <madraykin> I'd use slackware if they finally adopted the 2.6 kernnel
[02:41] <SpAwN> i vnc into it and its pretty slow
[02:41] <madraykin> slack is fast
[02:41] <mossman> Slackware would still be my choice for a server
[02:41] <dive-o> I think it was kernel 1.2.3 when I started using it
[02:41] <mossman> Ahh the old 123
[02:41] <SpAwN> lol
[02:41] <dive-o> I remember 1.2.13 being the stable kernel for ages
[02:41] <madraykin> why is that...that slackware is so fast compared to some distros?
[02:41] <madraykin> kde zooms compared to kde on suse
[02:41] <madraykin> i've never understood that
[02:42] <SpAwN> madraykin, each distro does there own   kinda twist on kde
[02:42] <dive-o> kubuntu is quite fast on this machine, but I haven't tried slackware on it
[02:42] <madraykin> yeah, kubuntu is quite fast too
[02:42] <madraykin> much faster than suse
[02:42] <mossman> Slackware  lacks the bloat.  It will still run on a 486 with no probles.....Just maybe do not try to run kde3 on it :)
[02:42] <dive-o> then again this machine is far from underpowered given that I spent way too much money on it
[02:42] <notamisfit> I use kubuntu and slack on the same machine
[02:42] <niroxx> moin
[02:42] <SpAwN> what u got dive-o
[02:42] <notamisfit> other than startup on kubuntu, they both seem to fly
[02:43] <madraykin> yeah, the both do very well for my computer
[02:43] <madraykin> I like kubuntu because i'm lazy and like GUI tools
[02:43] <mossman> Kubuntu is by far the best package orinated system I have used yet
[02:43] <madraykin> lol
[02:43] <SpAwN> i run a 3.6ghz p4 with 2 gigs ram and a kick ass geforce 7800 GT OC
[02:43] <madraykin> damn
[02:43] <niroxx> where is the german (k)ubuntu channel
[02:43] <SpAwN> id try #kubuntu-de
[02:43] <madraykin> my damn dell computer uses RDRAM
[02:43] <mossman> kubuntu-de I think
[02:43] <SpAwN> maby
[02:43] <madraykin> no way i'm spending that much for more ram
[02:44] <niroxx> thanks
[02:44] <madraykin> so expensive
[02:44] <notamisfit> get a new mobo
[02:44] <SpAwN> i got a dell too
[02:44] <SpAwN> lol
[02:44] <chopin> i thought i killed all adept-related processes but Adept will only start in Read Only mode
[02:44] <chopin> any idea what i could be missing?
[02:44] <madraykin> not: i may do that ... very soon
[02:44] <madraykin> lol
[02:44] <SpAwN> but it uses umm like ddr2 or somthing
[02:44] <SpAwN> i forget
[02:44] <madraykin> yeah
[02:44] <dive-o> SpAwN: http://www.endersgame.net/~dive/ender.txt
[02:44] <madraykin> that stuff is much cheaper
[02:44] <madraykin> and probably just as good if not better
[02:44] <notamisfit> i still use ddr
[02:45] <notamisfit> not going to get an am2 anytime soon
[02:45] <sproingie> chopin: quit all apt-related processes then rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:45] <chopin> aye!
[02:45] <alex_ndc> hi ... I have a question ... KDE's rendering speed (especially Konqueror) moves like shit. What can I do to improve it ?
[02:46] <notamisfit> run fluxbox?
[02:46] <SpAwN> dive-o, the page isnt loading for me..........
[02:47] <mossman> Here is a serious question that I am too lazy to look up.  What exactly is the multiverse repositroy.  Who runs it and are all software packeges gpl?
[02:47] <ranunculoid> alex_ndc: I've a link for you, hold on
[02:47] <dive-o> SpAwN: hrm, just worked for me
[02:47] <alex_ndc> considering I have an AMD64 and a Geforce4 ... no, I don't think so
[02:47] <SpAwN> dive-o, i think im using up all my bw on torrents
[02:47] <alex_ndc> ranunculoid: what link ?
[02:47] <ranunculoid> About KDE's speed
[02:47] <dive-o> it's an athlon 64 x2 4200+ (dual core 2.2ghz), 2GB ram, 300GB disk, geforce 7800GT 256MB video
[02:48] <SpAwN> dive-o, nice
[02:48] <alex_ndc> ranunculoid: I am thinking about some way to accelerate the rendering
[02:48] <ranunculoid> Yeah, hold on
[02:48] <doppelganger> ARGH...  why don't kbfx buttons work with "kmenu"...   it works with xp style and vistabar
[02:48] <doppelganger> dangit
[02:48] <alex_ndc> but I tried installing nvidia-glx, and I haven't seen any effects
[02:48] <doppelganger> i wan't my kmenu..
[02:49] <doppelganger> =\
[02:49] <ranunculoid> alex_ndc: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Performance%20Tips
[02:49] <dive-o> it'll probably have more drives in it once I redo my fileserver's layout, since I just bought two 750GB drives for the fileserver
[02:49] <SpAwN> oh yea i forget i gotta go test that symlink i made brb
[02:49] <notamisfit> alex: you have the module loaded and all that jazz?
[02:49] <ranunculoid> Now for my question: How do I change filetype associations in kubuntu? I usually use kControlCentre but it's not in kubuntu (at least I cant find it)
[02:49] <mossman> Did you insable the new nvidia drivers in xorg.conf?
[02:49] <notamisfit> moss:stole my next one
[02:50] <alex_ndc> notamistif: yes, and I also tested it with Tux Racer :), but both KDE's and Gnome speed are very poor, and it becomes noticeable when the browser renders web pages
[02:50] <doppelganger> automatix installed my nvidia drivers nicely
[02:50] <mossman> You have to point the driver in the file  /ect/x11/xorg.conf to use nvidia driver.
[02:50] <Smonkey> Shouldn't a fresh MySQL install have no root password?
[02:50] <doppelganger> after my attempt to edit my own and finally got it working...   i used automatix on my second install and it set it all up quick like
[02:51] <mossman> I recommend automatix.  quick and dirty way to install everything fast :)
[02:51] <notamisfit> hmm. never tried it
[02:51] <doppelganger> i've heard people mumble about it, but it worked very well for me
[02:51] <erikson> yeah mossman, werks for me :)
[02:52] <chopin> !paste
[02:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:52] <mossman> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138405
[02:52] <chopin> so guys ...
[02:52] <chopin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17965
[02:52] <chopin> what in there is adept-related?
[02:52] <mossman> some info about automatix for you
[02:53] <Cntryboy> Looking for something cool to download any ideas
[02:53] <doppelganger> xgl ;P
[02:53] <ranunculoid> Can anybody help me with my problem?
[02:53] <mossman> Adept will handle automatix, you must edit the sources list though for adept to find it
[02:53] <mossman> ranunculoid, what is your problem again?
[02:54] <ranunculoid> How do I change filetype associations in kubuntu? I usually use kControlCentre but it's not in kubuntu (at least I cant find it)
[02:54] <mossman> I belive by using Konqueror,  under settings > Config Konqeror,  there is a place to set file associations
[02:55] <notamisfit> ranculoid: alt-f2, type kcontrol
[02:55] <Cntryboy> doppelganger: talking to me about xgl?
[02:55] <mossman> or what notamisfit said..  Same Same
[02:56] <doppelganger> was suggesting something fun, if you can get it working
[02:56] <doppelganger> like i have
[02:57] <Cntryboy> xgl what is it
[02:57] <doppelganger> it's a lot of crazy desktop effects you can add
[02:57] <notamisfit> got xgl running a few months ago
[02:57] <Cntryboy> how big to dl?
[02:57] <doppelganger> what kind of graphics card do you have? it seems to work best with nvidia
[02:57] <notamisfit> nice stuff, and pretty stable
[02:57] <doppelganger> but not so much with ati
[02:57] <notamisfit> might try it again sometime
[02:57] <doppelganger> notamisfit: agreed  ;)
[02:57] <ranunculoid> Thanks notamisfit + mossman
[02:58] <notamisfit> ran: no prob
[02:58] <mossman> np
[02:58] <Cntryboy> I have nvidia fx 5500
[02:58] <Cntryboy> how big is it to dl though?
[02:58] <notamisfit> should do nicely
[02:58] <notamisfit> i had it going good on a 5200
[02:58] <notamisfit> sadly my 6100 on-board sucks
[02:58] <Cntryboy> where is the dl site
[02:58] <notamisfit> (new mobo, too cheap to get a pcie card)
[02:59] <Cntryboy> brb grr
[02:59] <mossman> Where would one download xgl?  xorg?
[02:59] <dive-o> I should try some games on this thing
[02:59] <dive-o> haven't tried any under linux yet
[03:00] <doppelganger> cntry: check it-   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViuJPRZh0oo&mode=related&search=
[03:00] <mossman> Klickety is the most addictive game supplied with kde
[03:00] <doppelganger> cntry: but if you have an ati card, you might watch out man
[03:01] <notamisfit> there should be some ubuntu packages out there
[03:01] <doppelganger> heard bad, bad things
[03:01] <doppelganger> ;P
[03:01] <notamisfit> there's about eleventy billion howtos on the ubuntu site and forums
[03:01] <doppelganger> check out the #xgl channel if you're interested, those guys are super helpful
[03:02] <madraykin> I tried xgl
[03:02] <madraykin> it was cool
[03:02] <nathan_> Since your talking about xgl, I was having a problem with getting the compostie to work for compiz.  I think I have xgl working right but I don't really see any difference.
[03:02] <madraykin> but xorg took up so much cpu
[03:02] <madraykin> not worth it
[03:02] <notamisfit> nathan: what function?
[03:03] <nathan_> It doesn't seem like any of the compiz functions are working
[03:03] <doppelganger> like what nathan?
[03:03] <madraykin> are they enabled?
[03:03] <nathan_> Isn't xgl a replacement for the xorg
[03:03] <madraykin> I found to get xgl working was a pain
[03:03] <madraykin> but it did finally work
[03:04] <notamisfit> took me about 2 hours back in feb or so
[03:04] <nathan_> I tried for awhile to get it to work
[03:04] <madraykin> it actually worked better and easier on mepis than kubuntu
[03:04] <madraykin> not sure why.
[03:04] <madraykin> but yeah xgl = resource hog
[03:04] <madraykin> =[
[03:04] <notamisfit> no telling
[03:04] <notamisfit> the day it's up and going on slack is the day I take notice
[03:05] <nathan_> I think i will stick with ubunutu.  I never tried mepis
[03:05] <doppelganger> xgl isn't that bad on mine, i dunno..
[03:05] <doppelganger> maybe i'm just lucky.  It's not a bleeding edge machine by any means
[03:06] <madraykin> Well, I run a lot too
[03:06] <madraykin> and only have 256 mb of ram
[03:06] <madraykin> =x
[03:06] <notamisfit> that could explain it
[03:06] <madraykin> yep
[03:06] <doppelganger> lol
[03:06] <madraykin> xgl wasnt helping
[03:06] <madraykin> lol
[03:06] <notamisfit> i had about a gig when i tried it out
[03:06] <madraykin> yeah
[03:06] <madraykin> how did it perform then?
[03:06] <notamisfit> not bad by any means
[03:06] <madraykin> I need more ram ;(
[03:07] <notamisfit> unless i was compiling code or something
[03:07] <doppelganger> dangit...   i wish i could get this kdfx crap working right
[03:08] <doppelganger> anyone have it?
[03:08] <doppelganger> really, i just want to change the kmenu button
[03:08] <doppelganger> thats about it
[03:08] <doppelganger> i changed it, but it looks small and terrible
[03:08] <doppelganger> all squenched up
[03:10] <madraykin> kbfx should work fine
[03:10] <madraykin> whats wrong?
[03:10] <madraykin> I'm not using it right now, but never had any problem with it
[03:11] <linuxnewbie_> Hello. I am trying to enable my users to access thier accounts remotely through VNC but have no idea where to begin. The only thing I can do is allow them to access mine, but that will not work well. Also they use different OS'es. Any ideas?
[03:11] <nathan_> What is a good way to test if xgl is work correctly?
[03:11] <doppelganger> if you move around a window it should wobble around
[03:11] <doppelganger> you'd notice, trust me
[03:12] <nathan_> it doesn't do that
[03:12] <doppelganger> hmm..  check what xgl packages you have installed
[03:12] <doppelganger> and then, what compiz ones
[03:12] <madraykin> I loved the wobbeling windows
[03:12] <madraykin> =(
[03:12] <madraykin> lol
[03:13] <notamisfit> run kde-window-decorator and see if it does anything
[03:13] <madraykin> does that work now?
[03:13] <madraykin> I had to use gnome-window-decorator
[03:13] <madraykin> which i didnt like
[03:13] <doppelganger> madra: so did i, at first
[03:13] <notamisfit> not very easy to customize, is it?
[03:14] <notamisfit> i don't know if it works now
[03:14] <doppelganger> i used gset-compiz to customize
[03:14] <notamisfit> didn't a few months ago
[03:14] <doppelganger> talk about features...  whew
[03:14] <doppelganger> i was almost intimidated by how nit picky it got
[03:14] <doppelganger> lol
[03:15] <doppelganger> or detailed, as it were
[03:15] <notamisfit> yeah, tweaking in gconf-editor was a pain
[03:15] <madraykin> i used gset-compiz
[03:15] <madraykin> wasnt too bad
[03:15] <madraykin> they need kde versions of this stuff
[03:15] <madraykin> =[
[03:15] <nathan_> I have gset-compiz installed
[03:15] <notamisfit> sadly, novell
[03:16] <notamisfit> sadly, novell's a gnome shop now
[03:16] <madraykin> I dont know why they suddenly decided to favor gnome
[03:16] <madraykin> it use to be the other way around
[03:16] <notamisfit> they bought ximian
[03:16] <madraykin> oh
[03:16] <madraykin> that's right
[03:16] <madraykin> that makes sense, lol
[03:16] <notamisfit> not to mention that kde really doesn't take much shit from distros
[03:17] <madraykin> I can't wait until kde 4.0...
[03:17] <madraykin> heh
[03:17] <nathan_> I have: xserver-xgl, compiz, compiz-gnome, and gset-compiz installed
[03:17] <nathan_> KDE 4.0 is going to be nice
[03:17] <madraykin> yess
[03:18] <doppelganger> looks like all the required stuff, hmm
[03:18] <notamisfit> wonder when we
[03:18] <fiyawerx> how can you tell from the command line how many packages are available total?
[03:18] <madraykin> I tried using gnome for liek a week
[03:18] <madraykin> didnt like it
[03:18] <notamisfit> wonder when we'll start to see kde4 alphas
[03:18] <fiyawerx> i know adept shows it on its status line
[03:18] <doppelganger> yeah, i used it in ubuntu and hated it
[03:18] <doppelganger> nathan, go to the #xgl channel and ask those guys in there, they rule at helping out
[03:18] <philipp__> what package contains win32codecs? such as the ones needed for wma files or any other videos or audio files?
[03:19] <doppelganger> fixed me up quick like
[03:19] <nathan_> I think the problem has to do with compist when I start compiz I get an error that it can't locate composite
[03:19] <fiyawerx> philipp__: need to add an extra repository for w32codecs i believe
[03:19] <philipp__> ah, recall its name?
[03:19] <nathan_> ok thanks doppelganger
[03:20] <fiyawerx> Cipherfunk multimedia packages
[03:20] <fiyawerx> hmm
[03:20] <fiyawerx> !w32codecs
[03:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:20] <philipp__> ah ok
[03:22] <nathan_> is it possible to get wmv to work for amd64?
[03:22] <madraykin> !nvidia
[03:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:24] <sdolnack> i don't like the thin minimize/maximize/close icons in the top-right corner of the windows in KDE.  How do I change them and make 'em more windows-liek?
[03:25] <RawSewage> what do you mean
[03:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> sdolnack: Control Center > Appearance & Themes > Window Decorations
[03:28] <sdolnack> th
[03:28] <sdolnack> x
[03:28] <SpAwN> well the sym link worked for enemy territory...but not for cedega....
[03:28] <sdolnack> also, can i make the red x actually exit programs instead of just closing the window?
[03:28] <coma> !kde theme
[03:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about kde theme - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:29] <notamisfit> sdolnack: that's a general kde annoyance
[03:30] <sdolnack> haha yeah.  i was like "wtf"
[03:31] <sdolnack> and i changed it to standard square buttons, but theyr'e still teenier than xp
[03:31] <notamisfit> i actually kinda like baghira
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> Then...use it. :)
[03:32] <notamisfit> wonder if its in the archives
[03:32] <notamisfit> hmm, guess not
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, try 'sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira'
[03:32] <notamisfit> there we go
[03:33] <philipp__> whats a sane interval for refreshing the package lists? 1 week?
[03:33] <RawSewage> baghira is a theme?
[03:34] <RawSewage> Is Baghira a theme?
[03:35] <chopin_aux> where's the lock file again for adept?
[03:35] <dive-o> Where should I go to find libdvdcss for kubuntu on amd64?
[03:35] <stodge> Hi - anyone seen this error when opening Konq on the local file system:        Cannot find parent item file:///home in the tree. Internal error.
[03:35] <dive-o> the script that came with libdvdread fails in the configure step, saying that the C compiler cannot create executables
[03:36] <RawSewage> !baghira
[03:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about baghira - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:36] <RawSewage> !What_is_Baghira
[03:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about What_is_Baghira - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:37] <notamisfit> dive-o: very strange, got build-essential?
[03:37] <RawSewage> Is Baghira a theme?
[03:37] <dive-o> no, lemme add that real quick
[03:37] <notamisfit> raw: yes
[03:37] <notamisfit> it's a mac-osx rip-off
[03:37] <notamisfit> but i like it
[03:37] <dive-o> ah, I bet that's what I was missing, the libc6 devel files
[03:37] <RawSewage> guess I'll try it
[03:37] <notamisfit> that might be it
[03:38] <chopin_aux> i can't get adept to start ... unless in read-only mode
[03:38] <RawSewage> you probably have it open somewhere else
[03:38] <chopin_aux> that's what it thinks
[03:38] <RawSewage> ok, thats a common error then
[03:38] <chopin_aux> ... and i looked at all the processes and see nothing like that
[03:38] <RawSewage> I forgot how to unlock it
[03:38] <RawSewage> I did it once
[03:38] <chopin_aux> :-/
[03:39] <dive-o> notamisfit: that did it, thanks :)
[03:39] <pvega> wenasssss mundo como tamos
[03:39] <notamisfit> cool
[03:39] <Cntryboy> doppelganger: that link u gave me does it have a dl link for this?
[03:39] <RawSewage> !info adept locked
[03:39] <Cntryboy> just got back, dang that looks trippy
[03:39] <ubotu> adept: package manager for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 3752 kB, installed size 10988 kB
[03:39] <Cntryboy> especially when I mm nm lol
[03:39] <notamisfit> does anyone else ditch adept for synaptic?
[03:40] <SpAwN> i have a usb driver....its plugged in and works great...how can i safly remove it...the icon on the desktop doesnt offer a eject thing
[03:40] <SpAwN> *driver=drive
[03:40] <chopin_aux> !info lock adept
[03:40] <ubotu> Package lock does not exist in dapper
[03:40] <RawSewage> sudo dpkg --configure -a  maybe?
[03:40] <chopin_aux> !info adept lock
[03:40] <notamisfit> spawn: i usually just unmount and yank
[03:40] <ubotu> adept: package manager for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 3752 kB, installed size 10988 kB
[03:40] <SpAwN> notamisfit, what dou umount....
[03:40] <SpAwN> i dont know the device name
[03:41] <RawSewage> chopin_aux, try that
[03:41] <chopin_aux> RawSewage: dpkg?
[03:41] <RawSewage> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:41] <chopin_aux> k
[03:41] <notamisfit> look in /media; should be sd-something
[03:41] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Where did it mount ?
[03:41] <SpAwN> notamisfit, k will do thanks
[03:41] <SpAwN> i found it now...
[03:42] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, i wasnt sure.....i just hit the icon on the desktop
[03:42] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Leave the GUI stuff alone :P
[03:42] <Generic> so, does the open thing in the firefox download manager not work for everyone?
[03:42] <Generic> or is it just me?
[03:42] <chopin_aux> woohoo! RawSewage ... i owe you another ;-)
[03:42] <notamisfit> that stuff'll rot your brains worse than tv
[03:42] <SpAwN> hehe
[03:42] <RawSewage> chopin_aux, ok cool
[03:43] <sdolnack> but yeah, is there any way to have the X in the upper-right corner actually exit the program rather than just close the window?
[03:43] <notamisfit> yeah, use another desktop
[03:43] <RawSewage> What program
[03:43] <sdolnack> all programs
[03:43] <RawSewage> all programs are different
[03:43] <RawSewage> mine close
[03:43] <sdolnack> rly?
[03:43] <RawSewage> so what program
[03:43] <sdolnack> mine close but just go to the taskbar
[03:43] <sdolnack> :-/
[03:43] <RawSewage> everything?
[03:43] <sdolnack> pretty much
[03:43] <sdolnack> but you said it's controlled by the program itself?
[03:43] <RawSewage> yeah
[03:43] <sdolnack> and not some global setting?
[03:44] <sdolnack> your'e sure?
[03:44] <RawSewage> no
[03:44] <RawSewage> might be a global setting somewhere
[03:44] <RawSewage> I never had to change anything though
[03:44] <SpAwN> stupid question if i erase a sym link it only erases the link...not the whole thing?
[03:45] <notamisfit> spawn: yeah
[03:45] <SpAwN> k thanks
[03:46] <SpAwN> bbiab
[03:47] <intelikey> what in the crybuntus is this process " 2952 ?        S      0:00 [shpchpd_event] " ?
[03:50] <Kr4t05> I'm having a problem with my fstab, if someone could look at it, I'd appreciate it.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17967
[03:52] <notamisfit> kr4: what problem are you having?
[03:52] <mike_> this is a test
[03:52] <notamisfit> you failed ;)
[03:52] <mike_> cool all is working
[03:54] <Kr4t05> notamisfit, when I try to mount i get this.
[03:55] <Kr4t05> $ sudo mount -a
[03:55] <Kr4t05> [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[03:55] <Kr4t05> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc1, missing codepage or other error. In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[03:55] <notamisfit> what did dmesg|tail say?
[03:56] <Kr4t05> Nothing about /dev/hdc1
[03:56] <Hawkwind> What exactly are you trying to mount that you get that error on ?
[03:56] <Kr4t05> When I try to click the device icon on my desktop, I get
[03:56] <Hawkwind> Also, what command are you using to attempt the mounting ?
[03:56] <abattoir> Kr4t05: you are sure it is ext2 right?
[03:56] <Kr4t05> abattoir, yeah
[03:56] <intelikey> sudo
[03:56] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind, sudo mount -a
[03:57] <abattoir> Kr4t05: is it possible that the partition is corrupted?
[03:57] <Kr4t05> notamisfit, abattoir, no.
[03:57] <Kr4t05> abattoir, I've reformatted it twice.
[03:57] <intelikey> mounted ro ?
[03:57] <intelikey>    / mounted ro ?
[03:57] <notamisfit> the only time i've gotten anything close to that was when i tried to mount a freebsd slice
[03:57] <abattoir> intelikey: rw
[03:57] <erikson> I followed the XGL install instructions , but dunno if it's running , ...did a end current session then restart xserver in the startup menu , but I can't tell if it's on ? :)
[03:58] <Kr4t05> Here's the entry in fstab
[03:58] <intelikey> abattoir not in his fstab
[03:58] <notamisfit> kr: lsmod|grep ext2
[03:58] <intelikey> oh yes it is
[03:58] <Kr4t05> /dev/hdc1 /mnt/music ext2 auto,defaults,errors=remount,rw 0 1
[03:58] <abattoir> intelikey: /dev/hdc1 /mnt/music ext2 auto,defaults,errors=remount,rw 0 1
[03:58] <notamisfit> it's a long shot, but I'm running out of ideas
[03:59] <intelikey> abattoir yeah i read the -ro as ,ro  mybad
[03:59] <erikson> desktop looks the same
[03:59] <Kr4t05> erikson, try to move a window
[03:59] <Kr4t05> erikson, did you install compiz?
[04:00] <Kr4t05> abattoir, it works.
[04:00] <Kr4t05> abattoir, Thanks.
[04:00] <erikson> compiz ? wasn't mentioned on the page
[04:00] <abattoir> Kr4t05: ugh what works, i dont remember saying anything :P
[04:00] <dive-o> where would I go to change the default directory for removable stuff from /media? I use /media on my LAN for different purposes, and the 'sda2' from my ipod is annoying
[04:00] <Kr4t05> erikson, XGL is just the graphics layer, you need compiz to get the neat effects.
[04:00] <unix_infidel> dive-o: what do you mean?
[04:01] <notamisfit> dive-o: /etc/fstab?
[04:01] <dive-o> unix_infidel: I've got a /media/sda2 directory that got created when I booted up with my ipod plugged in, but I use /media for symlinks to my fileserver NFS mounts (my media archive, basically)
[04:01] <erikson> ok , compiz it iz :)
[04:01] <intelikey> well it looks like all "atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid" is superflutious with "defaults" doing the same thing.
[04:01] <dive-o> notamisfit: it's not in fstab
[04:02] <unix_infidel> dive-o: you can create an entry for fstab.
[04:02] <notamisfit> hmmm. i hate it when the system tries to outthink me
[04:02] <unix_infidel> say you want your ipod to show up as /media/ipod
[04:02] <unix_infidel> you can edit your fstab to do that.
[04:02] <dive-o> unix_infidel: aye, I know
[04:02] <dive-o> I just want it out of /media, and I don't have a clue what auto-created /media/sdb2 for it; that's what I'm looking to change
[04:03] <unix_infidel> dive-o: /media/sdb2 is just a mount point.
[04:03] <dive-o> I'm aware of that
[04:03] <unix_infidel> you can edit fstab to mount it wherever you want.
[04:03] <dive-o> I'm also aware of that
[04:03] <intelikey> notamisfit yes the more automated it gets the less i like it.
[04:04] <intelikey> anyone know what is this process "[shpchpd_event] " ?
[04:04] <dive-o> ah. pmount.
[04:04] <sdolnack> what are the perks of running xgl/compiz?
[04:04] <notamisfit> of course, with usb devices, you never know when it'll do a chinese fire drill and move to sde1 vice sda1
[04:04] <sdolnack> like practically speaking
[04:04] <dive-o> notamisfit: that's why I want the default to be something other than /media/<foo> :)
[04:05] <notamisfit> hmm, i'm a bit out of my element here
[04:05] <intelikey> notamisfit wild cards  ;/
[04:05] <dive-o> ok, looks like hal is calling pmount
[04:06] <ryanakca> how do you make the font smaller on tty1? on ctrl-alt-f1...
[04:06] <unix_infidel> ah, i get what you're talking about know...you want to be able to determine whatever the NODE is and THEN mount it to whatever.
[04:06] <intelikey> ryanakca frame buffering
[04:06] <ryanakca> intelikey: ???
[04:06] <dive-o> unix_infidel: not precisely; I just want things that are detected by hal/etc to get tossed somewhere other than /media
[04:07] <intelikey> ryanakca something like vga=791 in the kernel string of the boot loader
[04:07] <sdolnack> anyone--xgl/compiz benefits?
[04:07] <notamisfit> sdolnack: eye candy. that's about it
[04:07] <stodge> Any ideas what packages I need to install to use Jackd's ALSA driver with Rosegarden?
[04:08] <intelikey> ryanakca changing the frame buffer is the only way i know of to change the lines/coloumns in the console.
[04:08] <unix_infidel> dive-o: udev just creates the node, mount manages where you mount it
[04:08] <dive-o> unix_infidel: pmount, in this case, which is called by hal according to the manpage
[04:08] <ryanakca> intelikey: lost me... :)... so in the grub config file... kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-686 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash vga=791       ?
[04:08] <doppelganger> i know this has probably been asked before, but how do you change the font color of the kicker?
[04:08] <unix_infidel> dive-o: the ipod registers as /dev/sdb2 according to the system NOT /media/sdb2
[04:09] <dive-o> -rw------- 1 root root 0 2006-07-13 02:05 /media/sdb2/.created_by_pmount
[04:09] <unix_infidel> its not /media/sdb2 unless its mounted by a mounting program.
[04:09] <intelikey> yep    and you need to set it to what you and your hardware like ryanakca
[04:09] <dive-o> unix_infidel: I am quite aware of that
[04:09] <dive-o> I understand how device mounting works
[04:09] <dive-o> that is not the issue
[04:09] <unix_infidel> :P
[04:09] <dive-o> I am trying to figure out WTF to go to configure hal/pmount to put such things elsewhere
[04:09] <intelikey> 791 was an example   vga=788   is pretty common.
[04:09] <dive-o> and all I'm getting is "oh, edit your fstab" which means sod all when it's automated crap
[04:09] <dive-o> heh
[04:10] <JohnFlux> Riddell: ping
[04:10] <sdolnack> what's the xgl/compiz irc channel?
[04:10] <unix_infidel> dive-o: i always thought the mount is automated b/c of the auto flag in fstab.
[04:11] <dive-o> unix_infidel: it's never mounted, and that's not the issue
[04:11] <fiyawerx> sdolnack: #xgl
[04:11] <sdolnack> fiyawerx: thx
[04:11] <dive-o> the issue is that if it's plugged in, pmount/etc will go create /media/sdb2
[04:11] <unix_infidel> that's odd, i've never seen that before hald or udev creating a node in /media.
[04:11] <denis_> guys is there a "windows media player" codec type of download that i can get that would let me play windows media files? (asx, asf?)
[04:12] <actinic> is Adept the only program which handles Kubuntu update notification & downloads in one?
[04:12] <sdolnack> actinic: no
[04:12] <sdolnack> you can use Synaptic as well
[04:12] <erikson> my ATI card driver won't work with compiz ...oh well glad I saw the warning ! :)
[04:12] <sdolnack> which is more organized and cleaner (arguably better)
[04:12] <intelikey> dive-o one work around would be mv /media /<something.else>   so there is no /media on your system.
[04:12] <sdolnack> actinic: and you can also use teh apt-get command as well
[04:13] <actinic> yes, but synaptic doesn't have an 'auto-notify' feature, does it?
[04:13] <sdolnack> actinic: i'm not sure.  I haven't looked into it.
[04:13] <notamisfit> dive-o: checking pmount man page, /media doesn't seem to be open to discussion
[04:13] <dive-o> notamisfit: yeah, I got that impression as well. I was hoping someone here had an idea.
[04:13] <intelikey> update notifier ?
[04:13] <sdolnack> i really like adept's but it's frustrating when it constantly tries to install the latest kernel build (and keeps the old ones)
[04:13] <dive-o> moving what I keep in /media is possible, but I'd really prefer to just move the pmount default
[04:14] <actinic> yes, in the task bar of kubuntu I have an update notification icon
[04:14] <actinic> next to the volume icon
[04:14] <erikson> Compiz, DOES NOT WORK WITH THE 8.26.13 FGLRX DRIVERS!..which are ATI
[04:14] <sdolnack> wait--since when?
[04:14] <actinic> doesn't everyone?
[04:14] <luc45> what program can i use to extract a rar file? it doesnt work with ark
[04:14] <sdolnack> i'm pretty sure compiz works w/ fglrx
[04:15] <erikson> http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=689&p=1
[04:15] <sdolnack> luc45: you need the unrar package i think
[04:15] <Keltag> Try 8.26.18 then?
[04:16] <sdolnack> Requirements
[04:16] <sdolnack> kdm, kdebase-bin, compiz(-vanilla)-gnome, xserver-xgl and a accelerated graphic driver (Nvidia, latest fglrx (8.25.13) or something else that works)
[04:16] <intelikey> dive-o i only meant change the mount point /media and rm the dir     but you knew that.
[04:16] <sdolnack> oh wait--did you mean the newest driver?  i thought they stopped updating fglrx
[04:16] <luc45> sdolnack: i have unrar installed. still not working
[04:17] <erikson> well I don't wanna take chance
[04:17] <notamisfit> luc: if unrar x filename doesn't work, the rar's probably fucked
[04:18] <Keltag> Hell, if I can get an ATI to run SecondLife then there's no reason it shouldn't be able to run Compiz
[04:19] <ranunculoid> What folder do I put Win32 codecs in in kubuntu so that Kaffine can use them?
[04:19] <luc45> notamisfit: my rar has a lot of rars inside.
[04:20] <notamisfit> so unrar them
[04:20] <luc45> notamisfit: its working now with the x option
[04:20] <sdolnack> i wonder how initng is coming along
[04:20] <notamisfit> i thought it would
[04:20] <erikson> my ATI is an elcheapo onboard xpress 200 so I shouldn't expect  too much fancy graphics gymnastics with it :)
[04:20] <abattoir> ranunculoid: /usr/lib/win32
[04:20] <[Relic] > is there a way to log process starts over a period of time?
[04:20] <Keltag> Ah
[04:20] <dive-o> intelikey: aye, didn't mean to be a jerk about it, was just hoping there was an easy way to reconfig it to point to, say, /othermedia, /foo, whatever
[04:21] <luc45> notamisfit: they are a lot... part01.rar part02.rar .... part47.rar
[04:21] <dive-o> I can tolerate it for the time being as I need to redo my fileserver anyway
[04:21] <notamisfit> unrar x *.rar
[04:21] <satafterh> anyone know anything about setting hd to ultra dma 5? is it safe?
[04:21] <luc45> notamisfit alright
[04:21] <marcos> Marcos
[04:22] <intelikey> dive-o there may indeed be one.   i however don't use hald and have no idea what that way might be.   sorry i couldn't give an answer you liked.
[04:23] <actinic> abattoir, i see no /usr/lib/win32 directory
[04:24] <abattoir> actinic: make one :)
[04:24] <abattoir> actinic: sudo mkdir /usr/lib/win32
[04:24] <actinic> lol, then put the codecs there?
[04:24] <abattoir> actinic: yes
[04:24] <DaSkreech> Anyone know how to fix file system errors?
[04:25] <intelikey> DaSkreech mounted ?
[04:25] <actinic> DaSkreech, i reformat.  No file errors thereafter.
[04:25] <actinic> :)
[04:25] <actinic> j/k
[04:25] <abattoir> DaSkreech: fsck ?
[04:25] <DaSkreech> That's my problem
[04:25] <DaSkreech> I formatted and then started getting superblock errors
[04:25] <DaSkreech> abattoir: Finds no errors
[04:25] <abattoir> DaSkreech: what filesystem?
[04:26] <intelikey> DaSkreech is it mounted some place ?
[04:26] <DaSkreech> reiserfs
[04:26] <DaSkreech> intelikey:  /
[04:27] <intelikey> mount -o reomunt,ro / && fsck.reiserfs -f /dev/<devicenode> && reboot
[04:27] <abattoir> DaSkreech: http://www.namesys.com/bad-block-handling.html might be relevant ?
[04:28] <sdolnack> is it work updating my kernel from 2.6.15 to 2.6.17?
[04:28] <luc45> notamisfit got it. just needed to type: "unrar x part01.rar". it automatically extracted the divided file.
[04:28] <intelikey> one could test for badblocks also.  but if a reformat caused it, it's most likely reiserfserror
[04:29] <notamisfit> cool that
[04:29] <DaSkreech> Ok thanks
[04:29] <driz> !COC
[04:29] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[04:29] <DaSkreech> I should probably mention that when the boot fails if I press Ctrl+D it boots normally
[04:30] <luc45> notamisfit: shit. i get "CRC Check failed"
[04:30] <[Relic] > is there an alphabetical list of programs somewhere?  I want to figure out what keeps trying to run
[04:30] <notamisfit> probably a buggered file then
[04:30] <abattoir> DaSkreech: oh, you are dropped into a rescue shell?
[04:30] <luc45> notamisfit: i dont think so
[04:30] <intelikey> [Relic]  dpkg -l | less
[04:30] <luc45> notamisfit: i have a .sfv file with the correct crc for the iso.
[04:31] <chopin_aux> another adept problem: installs of gimp and thunderbird are failing ... "problem downloading some programs or the commit would break packages." ???
[04:32] <abattoir> chopin_aux: could you try w/ 'apt-get' ?
[04:32] <DaSkreech> abattoir: Yes
[04:32] <notamisfit> hmm, i've got no idea then
[04:32] <chopin_aux> perhaps ... can i just say apt-get install gimp
[04:32] <DaSkreech> It does a check of filesystems and fails
[04:32] <chopin_aux> or do i have to write out the whole package?
[04:32] <intelikey> chopin_aux as root
[04:32] <DaSkreech> I think that it may be one of my FAT32 drives but I'm very puzzled as to why it would start doing this on a reinstall
[04:33] <abattoir> DaSkreech: oh, ok, you are lucky it is a secondary fs(right?), my root, gets corrupted, when i shut down improperly w/ reiserfs :(
[04:33] <luc45> notamisfit: dunno. i think im running winrar in wine...
[04:33] <chopin_aux> w
[04:33] <intelikey> chopin_aux as for the exact name do  apt-cache search gimp     and it will show you what apt-get myst have.
[04:33] <DaSkreech> abattoir: I reinstalled and got that on first reboot
[04:33] <chopin_aux> ah.
[04:33] <chopin_aux> thx
[04:33] <DaSkreech> abattoir: That hardly seems like in appropriate shutdown to me
[04:34] <intelikey> for gimp it is gimp
[04:34] <abattoir> DaSkreech: on your root partition? or a secondary one?
[04:34] <abattoir> !info gimp
[04:34] <ubotu> gimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 2712 kB, installed size 7648 kB
[04:34] <chopin_aux> heh
[04:34] <chopin_aux> thx
[04:34] <erov> new wine :)) yay
[04:34] <DaSkreech> abattoir: ermmm I would guess my root
[04:34] <DaSkreech> None of the others have changed
[04:34] <abattoir> DaSkreech: why dont you try xfs, its a bit more 'stable' for me
[04:34] <intelikey> gimp-helpbrowser - Built-in Help Browser plugin for The GIMP
[04:35] <DaSkreech> in fact they are plugged off
[04:35] <DaSkreech> abattoir: Stupid no grub error :-P
[04:35] <abattoir> DaSkreech: i heard grub and xfs can be made to live together... i myself have a weird setup though :P
[04:35] <sdolnack> anyone? worth upgrading kernel from 2.6.15 to 2.6.17?
[04:36] <notamisfit> tried 2.6.17 on slack. gave me nothing but trouble
[04:36] <notamisfit> doesn't seem to play nice with the nvidia drivers
[04:40] (abattoir/#kubuntu) hmm, there we go again
[04:40] (samuli/#kubuntu) and it's getting pretty annoying too.
[04:40] (Snake/#kubuntu) intelikey: this is one hell of a netsplit.
[04:40] <intelikey> major servers desynced
[04:40] <sproingie> let's hear it for irc's topology
[04:40] <Snake> lol sproingie
[04:41] <christopher> Hello, I installed kubuntu 6.06 yesterday and everything worked great. However, today it takes a long time for webpages to download with a domain name but if I use an IP address the page loads almost immediatly. This also happened a few months ago with a beta of ubuntu on a different computer. Does anybody know what is wrong and how to fix it?
[04:41] <sproingie> object lesson in why tree topologies suck for reliability
[04:41] <intelikey> lilo will prolly inform us as to what the cause was.
[04:41] <joel_> lol
[04:41] <Smygis> on the subjekt of nvidia. I cant get the property drivers to work.
[04:41] <notamisfit> smygis: what have you installed?
[04:43] <Smygis> notamisfit:  Who knows ;) nvidia-glx nvidia.kernel-common i think it whas
[04:43] <sberlotto> ol !
[04:43] <notamisfit> have you edited xorg.conf? change 'vesa' to 'nvidia' and all that?
[04:43] <sberlotto> estou procurando um bom screencast ..
[04:43] <Cntryboy> grr
[04:43] <Smygis> notamisfit: yes.
[04:44] <qbit> christopher: might be this - network.dns.disableIPv6   <= set this to true if the browser is Firefox
[04:44] <Smygis> the xserver dies at startup
[04:44] <notamisfit> what kernel version are you running? got linux-restricted-modules for it?
[04:44] <abattoir> !br
[04:44] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:44] <Cntryboy> anyone know how to start xgl?
[04:44] <sberlotto> ok ! tks.
[04:44] <abattoir> sberlotto: ^^^^^
[04:44] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy:  By saying please?
[04:44] <samuli> Cntryboy, try #ubuntu-xgl
[04:44] <notamisfit> i think 2.6.15-23 is the latest w/modules
[04:44] <Cntryboy> by saying please?
[04:45] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: It's worth a try
[04:45] <samuli> "please xgl, pimp my linux"
[04:45] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: [Ku/u] buntu does everything else by magick ;)
[04:45] <Smygis> 2.6.15-26-386
[04:45] <qbit> christopher: if it's Konqueror try putting KDE_NO_IPV6="true" in /etc/environment
[04:45] <Cntryboy> dudes im stoned
[04:45] <Cntryboy> ya'll can't toy with me
[04:45] <Cntryboy> lol
[04:45] <christopher> qbit: it is firefox
[04:46] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: i'm lost
[04:46] <Cntryboy> go to term and say please?
[04:46] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: Jokes
[04:46] <joel_> what is the shortcut key to switch desktops?
[04:46] <samuli> Cntryboy, #ubuntu-xgl
[04:46] <aegeanlinux> joel_: ctrl+alt+F7 F8 F9 etc
[04:46] <notamisfit> smygis: might want to revert to 2.6.15-23 and install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23
[04:47] <Smygis> apt-cache search linux-restricted-modules
[04:47] <christopher> qbit: it does not seem to be happening in konqueror
[04:47] <Smygis> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386 - Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules on 386
[04:47] <[Relic] > no luck yet  :(      what is the console command to see what is currently running
[04:47] <DaSkreech> abattoir: ok Quick question if you have only one hard drive connected to the computer will a non connected hard drive still throw an filesystem check error?
[04:47] <DaSkreech> [Relic] : top
[04:47] <notamisfit> ok, you've got it for your kernel. got it installed?
[04:48] <joel_> oo tnc
[04:48] <qbit> christopher: then go to the about:config page in Firefox and double click the entry I gave you to change it to "true"
[04:49] <Smygis> notamisfit:  no i did not have it
[04:49] <Smygis> :D
[04:49] <notamisfit> you need it. it's got the actual binary module
[04:49] <Smygis> ok
[04:50] <Smygis> time to change "nv" to nvidia and see if it works
[04:50] <notamisfit> fire it up
[04:50] <notamisfit> make sure to modprobe first
[04:51] <Smygis> :S  ?? Im not god at this you know
[04:51] <notamisfit> sudo modprobe nvidia
[04:51] <Smygis> k
[04:52] <Smygis> nice
[04:52] <sberlotto> i'm find for a good screencast program
[04:52] <abattoir> DaSkreech: well, if it is not connected, there will be no checks, hence no 'superblock' errors... that's my guess :)
[04:52] <nathan_> It seems like xgl problems are a big topic in this channel.  It used to be wireless card questions.
[04:52] <DaSkreech> Right which is why I suspect it's my / drive
[04:53] <abattoir> DaSkreech: the error message would include the partition wouldnt it?
[04:53] <abattoir> i mean, the name of the partition
[04:53] <intelikey> [shpchpd_event]  ???
[04:54] <DaSkreech> It complains about a slew of things but it's the superblock pointing at the wrong inode (I think that's the error) that halts the boot
[04:54] <Smygis> ok seeya
[04:55] <intelikey> DaSkreech you can use an alternate superblock
[04:55] <christopher> qbit: Thanks, that really helps but it is still not as fast as it was and it is not my internet connection. Any other ideas the what might also be causing it?
[04:55] <abattoir> DaSkreech: hmmm.... even reiserfsck doesnt do anything?
[04:55] <DaSkreech> ok it tells me to run reiserfsck --rebuild-tree
[04:55] <abattoir> DaSkreech: (or is that the defaul check app?)
[04:55] <DaSkreech> When I run that it warns me not to run it :(
[04:55] <intelikey> there are backup copies about every 16384 blocks or so.... depends on the size of the fs
[04:56] <DaSkreech> Guess I'll need to figure out how to get that info
[04:56] <qbit> christopher: not really, but if it's fast with an ip number and slow with urls it points to some kind of dns proble,
[04:57] <intelikey> tunee2fs /device
[04:57] <christopher> qbit: ok thanks
[04:57] <intelikey> err one e
[04:57] <intelikey> tune2fs /device
[04:57] <DaSkreech> Ok thanks
[04:57] <DaSkreech> I was wondering :)
[04:57] <intelikey> device might be /dev/hda1
[04:58] <abattoir> intelikey: or is it reiserfstune?
[04:58] <DaSkreech> I'd be willing to bet one points to the other
[04:58] <qbit> christopher: the only thing I can think of is take a look at /etc/reslov.conf and see if it points to your ISP's dns servers
[04:59] <qbit> err make that /etc/resolv.conf   :-)   can't type worth a ....
[04:59] <abattoir> DaSkreech: i think tune2fs is for ext2(e2fsck), and reiserfstune is for reiserfs... that's just my guess though, could well be the same tool...
[05:00] <intelikey> abattoir yeah i guess so being reiserfs  :)
[05:01] <qbit> christopher: I usually change my /etc/nsswitch.conf to this: hosts:          dns files mdns   <= but that's because I run a local caching dns server on my gateway
[05:04] <intelikey> DaSkreech actually they are both compiled executables      do you pay when you bet ?
[05:04] <abattoir> intelikey: lol
[05:05] <DaSkreech> Sure what were the terms agreed before the check
[05:05] <christopher> qbit: thanks for your help, now it seems to be back as fast as it was
[05:05] <intelikey> although on a busybox system they would both be symlinks to /bin/busybox    :)
[05:05] <qbit> christopher: that;s good   :-)
[05:06] <intelikey> DaSkreech idk but you can just owe me  :)
[05:06] <intelikey> so what is [shpchpd_event]     anyone know ?
[05:06] <abattoir> intelikey: they seem to be different executables here... ;)
[05:07] <intelikey> google had a few referances to it but no discription that i found.
[05:07] <intelikey> abattoir that's what i said.
[05:08] <abattoir> intelikey: oh, ok, my mistake :)
[05:08] <DaSkreech> Ok Who's rules are we using?
[05:08] <DaSkreech> Yanks or Brits?
[05:09] <abattoir> hehe...
[05:09] <abattoir> Aussie Rules ;)
[05:09] <intelikey> well the "different" was implied, rather than said but we meant the same in our statements.
[05:09] <intelikey> DaSkreech being *ubuntu  prolly africaanies
[05:09] <abattoir> intelikey: as i said, my mistake, didnt read properly, and assumed... :)
[05:10] <DaSkreech> Ha ha ;) I need to get the big book of gambling
[05:10] <actinic> looking for suggestions on a good newsgroup downloader client ... ya know, binaries :)
[05:11] <DaSkreech> Thunderbird?
[05:11] <intelikey> wget url
[05:11] <actinic> for binaries that also handle par files?
[05:12] <dive-o> is there a working flash plugin for linux/amd64?
[05:13] <notamisfit> don't think so
[05:13] <dive-o> hmm
[05:13] <intelikey> i thought if 'wget' couldn't get it, it couldn't be gotten....
[05:13] <luc45> i installed azureus with adept but it seems it doesn't work.
[05:13] <abattoir> dive-o: konqueror?
[05:13] <dive-o> the 32bit version won't work with 64bit konq, I imagine?
[05:13] <dive-o> abattoir: yea
[05:13] <abattoir> dive-o: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-188198.html
[05:13] <actinic> hmm, 'KLibido is a KDE program to download encoded articles from the usenet news
[05:13] <actinic> service'
[05:14] <actinic> maybe i'll try that
[05:14] <luc45> anyone knows how to get azureus working?
[05:14] <abattoir> dive-o: i havent tried it personally though ;)
[05:15] <flaccid__> just wondering if someone can help me set up printer
[05:15] <flaccid__> usb printer.
[05:15] <dive-o> I can live without flash, I'd like to keep as much as possible deb-managed for now
[05:15] <flaccid__> trying to work out which usb port it would be
[05:15] <flaccid__> do i use dmesg?
[05:15] <dive-o> until I get used to ubuntu enough that I can hack around with bits of it
[05:15] <notamisfit> flaccid: lsusb
[05:16] <notamisfit> cups should pick it up tho
[05:16] <flaccid__> ah forgot about that command, thanks
[05:17] <sdolnack> anyone know kismet/aircrack?
[05:17] <dive-o> actinic: I personally love cg for usenet binary grabbing. it's a console app that takes a newsgroup as an argument and then opens an editor with a list of everything in that group, you delete what you don't want, it grabs the rest, putting the files back together from multiple posts and such
[05:18] <flaccid> ok so i selected usb device 3 as per lusb, no luck. what should i do now
[05:19] <notamisfit> what's the make and model?
[05:19] <flaccid> samsung ml-1610
[05:19] <flaccid> its worked through cups before
[05:21] <actinic> dive, cg?
[05:21] <notamisfit> hmm, do any of the usb devices have any extra info in the cups web interface?
[05:22] <flaccid> it is the only usb device plugged in
[05:23] <flaccid> ah it could be working 1 sec
[05:23] <sdolnack> anyone use aircrack/kismet/ethereal?
[05:24] <flaccid> cool its working
[05:24] <notamisfit> cool. what happened?
[05:27] <flaccid> i think i was pressing ok before i should of on the test print
[05:27] <notamisfit> that might do it
[05:27] <flaccid> but i can't delete the old printer?
[05:27] <notamisfit> why the hell not>
[05:28] <flaccid> its greyed out, silly
[05:28] <flaccid> its a remote printer
[05:29] <flaccid> i guess thats why
[05:32] <flaccid> ok fixed
[05:32] <MehAdult> What do I use to play .wmv files
[05:32] <MehAdult> !wmv
[05:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:32] <MehAdult> Nevermind
[05:32] <MehAdult> lol
[05:33] <flaccid> if i have to boxes on kde, 1 with the printer, 1 is a client, when adding a printer on the client, what is the best protocol to use
[05:35] <DaSkreech> MehAdult: try !w32codecs
[05:36] <DrBair> my dapper system is completely jacked... cups removed itself somehow, none of the init scripts tab complete anymore, and several init scripts plain old don't work. Any ideas?
[05:37] <notamisfit> make a blood sacrifice and pray
[05:38] <DrBair> packages seem to be disappearing...
[05:39] <luc45> i can't get azureus to work... help!
[05:39] <luc45> http://pastebin.ca/87669
[05:41] <scabootssca> ok i need help installing the ati drivers
[05:42] <Hobbsee> !ati
[05:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:44] <sdolnack> anyone use initng?
[05:48] <DrBair> sdolnack: have used it before on gentoo... that was almost a year ago
[05:48] <DrBair> VERY fast I must say
[05:48] <DrBair> and has a couple of nice features, like daemon monitoring
[05:50] <doppelganger_> what do you guys suggest for a cd burner?
[05:50] <doppelganger_> that actually burns mp3s..
[05:50] <nixternal> k3b
[05:51] <nixternal> don't burn an audio cd with mp3's but burn a data cd when doing mp3's
[05:51] <doppelganger_> kb3 says unsupported format when adding mp3's
[05:51] <doppelganger_> ahh, i see
[05:52] <doppelganger_> thanks nix
[05:52] <macd> ..
[05:52] <nixternal> np problemo ;)
[05:52] <posthuman> !nvidia
[05:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:53] <doppelganger_> but this_will_ burn them so i can listen to em in my car, right?
[05:53] <nixternal> if it is data yes, as it will be a disk full of mp3's
[05:54] <nixternal> when you burn an "audio" cd, it converts the mp3's to they can be played everywhere
[05:54] <JRH3K5> Pardon me, but I'm trying to configure apache to allow something to be only viewed by localhost, computers on the network, and deny all other users
[05:54] <doppelganger_> i don't have an mp3 player capable reciever... so...  you're meaning it'll work with just plain jane players, correct?
[05:54] <nixternal> then you want to burn an "audio" cd doppelganger_
[05:54] <JRH3K5> I tried Deny from all/Allow from 127.0.0.1/Allow from 192.168.1.0/24, but that last line for 192.168.1.0 breaks it :/
[05:54] <doppelganger_> but... it won't allow me to add mp3's ;\
[05:54] <doppelganger_> i'm used to nero in windows
[05:54] <nixternal> JRH3K5: you can try #apache as they will offer better support on your issue
[05:54] <JRH3K5> Thank you
[05:54] <nixternal> no problemo
[05:55] <doppelganger_> need something that i can add mp3's to to make an audio cd for my car
[05:55] <nixternal> i used nero forever, but k3b has been my baby
[05:55] <nixternal> when you add mp3's k3b gives you an error then?
[05:56] <doppelganger_> yeah, says unsupported format
[05:56] <nixternal> hmmm
[05:56] <nixternal> sounds like a lame issue
[05:56] <doppelganger_> should i apt-get a newer version?\
[05:56] <notamisfit> sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3?
[05:56] <nixternal> if there was a new version you would know
[05:56] <doppelganger_> ok, i'll try that
[05:57] <nixternal> notamisfit: thank you
[05:57] <nixternal> great
[05:57] <notamisfit> np
[05:57] <nixternal> glitches smitches
[05:57] <aegeanlinux> doppelganger_: You there man?
[05:57] <doppelganger_> yessir ;)
[05:57] <aegeanlinux> doppelganger_: So am I :D
[05:58] <doppelganger_> so aegean....  whats a good audio burner for kubuntu?
[05:58] <doppelganger_> or kde, whatevs
[05:58] <aegeanlinux> doppelganger_: Sorry about me being offline, me and Dad just upgraded the www.aegeanlinux.be server to have 2 GB ram
[05:58] <aegeanlinux> k3b
[05:58] <aegeanlinux> thats the best one
[05:58] <doppelganger_> when i try to add an mp3 into my list while trying to do an "audio cd", it says it's of an unsupported format
[05:59] <doppelganger_> but... it's mp3 for sure.... amarok plays the shit
[05:59] <aegeanlinux> It's cause you dont use Aegean ;) I can do it
[05:59] <doppelganger_> oh piss off, haha
[05:59] <aegeanlinux> joke doppelganger_
[05:59] <notamisfit> did you install the k3b mp3 lib?
[06:00] <doppelganger_> hrm... lemme check adept  ;P
[06:00] <aegeanlinux> you need a library for k3b that you need to manully install ???
[06:00] <aegeanlinux> What cr*ps that?
[06:00] <doppelganger_> package manager, yo
[06:00] <aegeanlinux> its called "pacman -Syu k3b" and it just "WORKS"
[06:00] <notamisfit> it's one of those fucking patent things
[06:01] <aegeanlinux> I don't believe in patents
[06:01] <doppelganger_> ok, got the mp3 part through adept, lemme try it
[06:01] <doppelganger_> thanks whoever said that, brb
[06:01] <notamisfit> unfortunately, they believe in us
[06:01] <aegeanlinux> :D
[06:02] <doppelganger_> theeeeere we go
[06:02] <aegeanlinux> so it works now?
[06:02] <doppelganger_> notamisfit: thanks bro  ;)
[06:02] <notamisfit> np
[06:02] <doppelganger_> jassah =)
[06:02] <doppelganger_> er yassah
[06:02] <notamisfit> it never hurts to help ;)
[06:03] <doppelganger_> afk for a min  ;)
[06:08] <modified-design> Can someone tell me, or direct to info, how to design and create flash (like with macromedia fx) on linux?
[06:09] <aegeanlinux> you can use Macromedia Flash 5 With Crossover Office
[06:09] <aegeanlinux> there is an open source authoring software
[06:09] <modified-design> yea, I've been looking into that, broke right now though
[06:09] <aegeanlinux> but I forgot what it was called
[06:09] <modified-design> I was hoping there might be a free way
[06:10] <aegeanlinux> It might work with Wine
[06:10] <modified-design> I guess theres not much demand for it on linux, it's one of the few things not out already
[06:10] <modified-design> I can't get wine to work on Dapper
[06:10] <aegeanlinux> The golden rule is if it don't work ./configure & make it ;)
[06:11] <modified-design> where do I go to configure wine? I can install it, but nothing happens when I try to run it
[06:12] <aegeanlinux> You have to goto the wine site, which happens to just be www.winehq.org
[06:12] <aegeanlinux> download the source code
[06:12] <aegeanlinux> open up a konsole
[06:12] <Lynoure> Firefox again failed to get saved with the session. Annoying. Anyone else noticed that happening occasionally?
[06:12] <aegeanlinux> cd to the location
[06:12] <aegeanlinux> tar -xvf {wine-file}
[06:12] <ChefWill> can someone tell me what the alt+spacebar menu is?
[06:13] <aegeanlinux> ./configure --prefix=/usr
[06:13] <aegeanlinux> wait about 3 minutes
[06:13] <Hobbsee> ChefWill: katapult?
[06:13] <aegeanlinux> type make
[06:13] <ChefWill> hrmm
[06:13] <aegeanlinux> and then sudo make install
[06:13] <ChefWill> i just now realized it accidentally
[06:13] <aegeanlinux> and then wine will definitly work
[06:13] <modified-design> I'll give that a shot, thanx.
[06:13] <aegeanlinux> If you need any help, i am right here
[06:13] <modified-design> thanx, I appreciate it
[06:13] <aegeanlinux> and once you can make the source file, you are officially a linux nerd ;)
[06:14] <modified-design> whats sad is I've been using linue for 4 years now, lol, and I'm still not good. I'm just a basic computer user who got fed up with windows
[06:14] <ChefWill> how/what do you configure Katapult?
[06:14] <aegeanlinux> ChefWill: Is that a question
[06:15] <ChefWill> ends in a question mark doesnt it? :)
[06:15] <aegeanlinux> modified-design: It's all good, everyone learns at there own pace
[06:15] <aegeanlinux> ChefWill: Sozzy, get the source code type ./configure --help
[06:15] <aegeanlinux> that should help abit ;)
[06:15] <Lynoure>  ah, clever
[06:15] <Lynoure> ChefWill: just start typing what you want to open or access
[06:15] <ChefWill> theres no way to configure it w/o source
[06:16] <aegeanlinux> then get the source
[06:16] <ChefWill> er
[06:16] <ChefWill> theres no way to configure it w/o source?
[06:16] <Lynoure> ChefWill: did you notice my comment?
[06:16] <ChefWill> no frontend gui?
[06:16] <ChefWill> yea i know that Lynoure but how do you add apps/etc to it?
[06:16] <Lynoure> ChefWill: see what happens, it's rather nice
[06:17] <Lynoure> ChefWill: Is it missing something?
[06:17] <DrBair> which wifi is the better route... atheros or intel?
[06:18] <Lynoure> ChefWill: for me it even finds my firefox tabs, and all from the k-manu ad  I've done no adding
[06:20] <ChefWill> Lynoure: it just shows up when you press alt=sapce
[06:21] <Lynoure> ChefWill: Yes. start typing anything, program, tabname, etc
[06:21] <ChefWill> if i hit alt+space it shows katapult logo then if i hit space it shows Ark and Run program
[06:21] <Lynoure> ChefWill: If you want it _not_ to show, when you press alt+space, that's    apt-get remove katapult
[06:22] <Lynoure> ChefWill: Seems to be working fine, then
[06:22] <ChefWill> no i do, i jsut want to figure out how t configure it to be useful
[06:22] <Lynoure> ChefWill: What do you want it to do?
[06:22] <ChefWill> dunno :P
[06:22] <ChefWill> im trying to read up on what it can do
[06:23] <Lynoure> ChefWill: It really sounds like it is already doing what it was design to do.
[06:24] <ChefWill> it doesnt read my bookmarks unless im doing it wrong
[06:26] <Lynoure> ChefWill: when on Katapult, ctrl+c  lets you configure it.
[06:26] <ChefWill> yea i did
[06:29] <Lynoure> hmm, finds my bookmarks fine. I'm not sure whether it works with konqueror bookmarks, I don't have any
[06:29] <ChefWill> i dont use konq
[06:30] <Lynoure> ChefWill: So it cannot find your firefox bookmarks? Even after 3 letters?
[06:30] <ChefWill> not that i see
[06:31] <ChefWill> i can just type a folder name?
[06:31] <ChefWill> hrm i think i got it
[06:31] <Lynoure> I don't know about bookmark folders... but exact bokmarks it finds for me
[06:32] <ChefWill> fixed it
[06:32] <ChefWill> someone said there are "widgets" that can run in katapult like on mac os x
[06:32] <ChefWill> i.e. a calculator/calender/etc
[06:35] <Lynoure> I don't know about that, but there is superkaramba
[06:36] <Lynoure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperKaramba
[06:36] <Lynoure> I doon't use it myself, though
[06:36] <JohnFlux> katapult is cool
[06:37] <JohnFlux> i added irc support to it
[06:37] <JohnFlux> ;)
[06:37] <JohnFlux> in konversation, right click on a name, then chose to add to addressbook.  then in katapult you can type in the name.  it will bring up a chat with them :)
[06:38] <JohnFlux> same with kopete
[06:41] <RawSewage> how do I download links of images and things
[06:41] <RawSewage> when I click it, it opens the default app
[06:42] <RawSewage> when clicking in Konversation, for example
[06:42] <RawSewage> what if the URL isnt on a webpage
[06:42] <RawSewage> oh nm
[06:42] <RawSewage> wget
[06:42] <sproingie>  how do you actually run katapult
[06:42] <sproingie> i ran it from the commandline, got a splash screen, and it exited
[06:42] <RawSewage> alt+Space
[06:42] <RawSewage> then start typing
[06:42] <sproingie> nada pasa
[06:42] <RawSewage> huh
[06:42] <sproingie> if it helps, i installed kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu.  maybe it's not configured?
[06:43] <RawSewage> try alt+f2
[06:43] <sproingie> nothing
[06:43] <RawSewage> katapult
[06:43] <sproingie> i have run on meta-r
[06:43] <RawSewage> try alt+f2
[06:43] <RawSewage> katapult
[06:43] <sproingie> ok, i got a pretty black splash rectangle, and now nothing
[06:44] <RawSewage> now... alt+f2
[06:44] <RawSewage> I mean
[06:44] <RawSewage> alt+SPAcebAR
[06:44] <sproingie> oh i see, it's supposed to run from the hotkey
[06:44] <RawSewage> yeah
[06:44] <RawSewage> then start typing
[06:44] <sproingie> i'll have to set up that hotkey myself, i ran kpersonalizer and it must have reset them all
[06:44] <RawSewage> you can use it as a calculatr too
[06:44] <RawSewage> oh
[06:44] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: you here?
[06:45] <sproingie> hm, so it's like a search thing.  except it doesn't seem to find executables
[06:45] <ColonelKernel> Does anyone know how to get TeamSpeak working on Kubuntu?  It cancels out my Linux sound evidently
[06:45] <sproingie> hm, it works for some progs, not others
[06:45] <sproingie> not digikam for example.  does it run off the slocate db or something?
[06:46] <ColonelKernel> crimsun: you gone too?
[06:46] <RawSewage> i dont know
[06:46] <sproingie> truthfully i miss the double-ctrl of GDS.  i find myself launching stuff from it now
[06:47] <RawSewage> you can probably configure KDE to do that
[06:47] <Hobbsee> ColonelKernel: yeah, you cant seem to have both going at the same time, or you have to load an extra module
[06:48] <sproingie> detecting a double-tap of ctrl?
[06:48] <sproingie> i doubt it
[06:48] <sproingie> ran updatedb, katapult still doesn't find all apps
[06:50] <Hobbsee> sproingie: killall katapult && katapult
[06:50] <RawSewage> yeah, I'd bet anything KDE can detect a doublt tap of CTRL
[06:50] <RawSewage> theres all kinds of keyboard options
[06:51] <renatoramiro> oii
[06:51] <sproingie> i've never seen anything except maybe input methods that detects taps of modifier keys
[06:52] <RawSewage> run kcontrol
[06:52] <ColonelKernel> Hobbsee: what do you mean load another module
[06:52] <RawSewage> REgional Accessibility
[06:52] <RawSewage> theres all kinds of keyboard things
[06:53] <sproingie> i know about it.  and nowhere does it support taps of modifier keys
[06:53] <ColonelKernel> Hobbsee: as in sudo apt-get install something?  That sounds pretty easy
[06:53] <Hobbsee> the command is sudo modprobe something -v, but i dont remember what it is.  much easier just to disable kde sound system.
[06:53] <ColonelKernel> Hobbsee: will I still have sound if I do that?
[06:53] <unix_infidel> ColonelKernel: yes.
[06:53] <sproingie> ok, did killall katapult and ran katapult again
[06:53] <unix_infidel> of course.
[06:53] <sproingie> now it says to use alt-space, but that doesn't actually work
[06:53] <sproingie> it pops up the window menu every time
[06:54] <ColonelKernel> unix_infidel: so how do I disable the KDE sound system?
[06:54] <unix_infidel> ColonelKernel: sudo kcontrol
[06:54] <sproingie> and it still doesn't find digikam
[06:54] <unix_infidel> there should be a gui you can mess with.
[06:54] <ColonelKernel> unix_infidel so I disable KDE and enable something else?
[06:54] <unix_infidel> i dont use gui so i cant guide you sorry.
[06:54] <unix_infidel> ColonelKernel: no, you can use kde without the artsd sound system.
[06:55] <ColonelKernel> unix_infidel aha.  then do I leave TeamSpeak on the setting that worked for It or the one that worked for the rest of linux
[06:55] <Hobbsee> sproingie: make the window menu be loaded by another key
[06:56] <sproingie> Hobbsee: ok, and now katapult doesn't intercept it either
[06:56] <sproingie> ah restarted it, there it goes
[06:57] <Hobbsee> sproingie: yep, nice
[06:57] <sproingie> it still ain't finding digikam
[06:57] <sproingie> or anything else i installed recently
[06:59] <sproingie> anyway if katapult can search a catalog like beagle, then i'm sold
[06:59] <sproingie> as it is the program catalog doesn't seem to want to update
[06:59] <Zaire> anyone in here know how to config wine so that it runs using NT 4 compat
[07:00] <aegeanlinux> yeah
[07:00] <aegeanlinux> click K --> run
[07:00] <aegeanlinux> type winecfg
[07:00] <aegeanlinux> and change the windows version ;)
[07:01] <RawSewage> sproingie, maybe restart X
[07:01] <Zaire> cool thx I just got a DVD burner and couldn't figure out why the software wasnt working
[07:02] <sproingie> RawSewage: not inclined to do that whenever i install something
[07:03] <Zaire> k nero works but I can't get DVD shrink to load and a friend said its a good program
[07:03] <aegeanlinux> can't help you in that department
[07:04] <aegeanlinux> sorry man
[07:04] <scabootssca> ok i installed the ati drivers and everything broke
[07:05] <RawSewage> Zaire, did you try k3b
[07:05] <scabootssca> it wont even turn on anymore
[07:05] <intelikey> would someone with a fresh install please check the permissions on /root for me ?
[07:05] <vaka> I have a big problem... My root account hasn't root permisions, and I can't give them to it because i haven't these same permisions
[07:06] <Zaire> k3b didn't workout I was trying to make a backup of one of my fav DVD and k3b failed to write
[07:06] <vaka> WAAARG
[07:06] <scabootssca> it has the blue loading bar and it loads normal and then after everything is done loading the screen flashes and gets stuck at the blue bar
[07:06] <aegeanlinux> www.kde-app.org
[07:06] <aegeanlinux> www.kde-apps.org
[07:06] <scabootssca> i really need help
[07:06] <aegeanlinux> there is a dvd backup program there
[07:06] <aegeanlinux> don't know the name off the top of my head
[07:07] <intelikey>  /root should be 000 should it not ?
[07:07] <scabootssca> anyone?
[07:08] <intelikey> so why the hell did the installer make it 755 ?   that's a security hole.
[07:09] <Zaire> root is disabled by default in kubuntu intelkey
[07:09] <intelikey> Zaire please use you head here.
[07:09] <vaka> how can i enable root??
[07:09] <poseidon> vaka: Do you have sudo???
[07:10] <vaka> no....
[07:10] <Zaire> sudo passwd root and it will let you give root a pass thus activating it
[07:10] <vaka> i can't do sudo
[07:10] <intelikey> anyone else checked that permissions on /root ?
[07:10] <Zaire> intelkey I just stated a fact so if you don't like it tough
[07:11] <scabootssca> is there a way to uninstall programs from ubuntu with a live cd?
[07:11] <scabootssca> 8kununtu
[07:11] <intelikey> vaka  you will have to reboot to rescue mode    single user mode.
[07:11] <vaka> ok
[07:11] <vaka> ty bye
[07:12] <scabootssca> how about me?
[07:12] <intelikey> scabootssca your issue is ?
[07:12] <intelikey> i did just get here.
[07:12] <scabootssca> i broke my computer when i tried to install the ati drivers and it wont turn on
[07:12] <scabootssca> like wont boot
[07:13] <scabootssca> get's stuck at the blue loading bar after everything goes buy
[07:13] <intelikey> boot to single user mode and undo what you did.
[07:13] <scabootssca> how?
[07:13] <intelikey> remove the ati driver ?
[07:14] <scabootssca> boot to single user mode
[07:14] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+del  and when it first posts. hit  esc
[07:15] <scabootssca> so hold thatr when it's booting?
[07:15] <intelikey> select the line that says rescue and hit enter
[07:15] <intelikey> no not when it's booting.   before.
[07:15] <Zaire> or when its hitting the boot loader hit escape and select recovery mode
[07:16] <scabootssca> before that it's grub
[07:16] <intelikey> yep
[07:16] <sproingie> isn't there any way of pointing digikam at a generic usb mass storage device and not a particular camera make
[07:16] <scabootssca> in grub highlight it and press esc?
[07:16] <intelikey> as soon as grub flashes to the screen    [esc] 
[07:16] <scabootssca> and puse recovery
[07:16] <sproingie> i'll be damned if the nikon coolpix actually ever works.  and i don't want to use the cable anyway
[07:16] <scabootssca> ok
[07:16] <scabootssca> i'll try that thanks
[07:17] <sproingie> if i don't pick a camera, it renames it to the first camera in the list
[07:18] <sproingie> seriously it's a piece of junk now.  it used to work
[07:19] <intelikey> sproingie if yours is a recent install of kubuntu, could i ask a favour of you ?
[07:19] <intelikey> not an upgrade
[07:19] <sproingie> intelikey: it's an install of kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu
[07:20] <intelikey> /exec ls -l /        and paste me the line with /root in it please
[07:21] <aegeanlinux> drwxr-x---   31 root root   4096 2006-07-13 01:05 root
[07:21] <intelikey> k
[07:21] <intelikey> ty
[07:22] <intelikey> ubuntu team has been breaking permissions on /root     it should be   d---------
[07:23] <Lynoure> intelikey: I'd call that a bit excessive, even root cannot read it then without fiddling with permissions.
[07:23] <intelikey> they also have kdm writing to /root rather than /var
[07:23] <intelikey> Lynoure then you would speek in ignorance
[07:23] <Lynoure> intelikey: Sleepiness, rather :)
[07:23] <intelikey> root doesn't care about permission
[07:24] <flake> my synaptic software manager is saying there is an install for wine but it can't be authenticated, then it lists a bunch of upgrades for stuff like office and other modules
[07:24] <sproingie> kdm writing to /root?
[07:24] <flake> i already have wine
[07:24] <sproingie> seriously that is whack
[07:24] <intelikey> sproingie yup
[07:25] <sproingie> bah i can't drag and drop into digikam either
[07:25] <flake> i see there's a wine v9.17 out, i have v9.16
[07:26] <sproingie> guess i'll stick with f-spot.  or more likely picasa on windows
[07:26] <sproingie> picasa on linux, that was a disaster
[07:26] <flake> is it safe to install it, although it says it can't be authenticated?
[07:26] <aegeanlinux> then compile it yourself. Goto www.winehq.org and ./configure
[07:27] <flake> i need a compiler to do that?
[07:28] <aegeanlinux> yes
[07:28] <aegeanlinux> gcc
[07:28] <flake> i've been meaning to put it on here anyway
[07:28] <notamisfit> build-essential should handle it all
[07:28] <flake> apt-get install gcc ?
[07:28] <notamisfit> apt-get install build-essential
[07:28] <aegeanlinux> ^^ :D
[07:29] <aegeanlinux> ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --enable-opengl --with-x
[07:29] <Cntryboy> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade does this upgrade the distro?
[07:29] <aegeanlinux> that is how you want to compile wine
[07:29] <flaccid_> what is the latest kernel for dapper?
[07:29] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: it updates all the packages, so yes
[07:30] <Cntryboy> is it the same as sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:30] <Cntryboy> I mean update
[07:30] <notamisfit> Cntryboy:no
[07:30] <Cntryboy> so its like upgrades
[07:30] <flake> thanks, will give it a whirl
[07:30] <aegeanlinux> I think so. I am not an apt-get kinda guy.
[07:30] <flaccid_> apt is better than rpm
[07:30] <flaccid_> i mean yum
[07:30] <Cntryboy> I have dialup, trying to get xgl working, but it the site says to dist-upgrade
[07:30] <notamisfit> update syncs, upgrade puts you in line with your current version, and dist-upgrade moves you on to the next
[07:30] <aegeanlinux> pacman better than anything
[07:31] <notamisfit> pkgtool makes all of them its bitch
[07:31] <aegeanlinux> pacman rocks!
[07:31] <aegeanlinux> pkgtool doesn't do deps does it?
[07:32] <notamisfit> fuck no; that just leads to problems
[07:32] <Cntryboy> what is mesa packages?
[07:32] <Cntryboy> and how big is it to upgrade mine
[07:32] <Zaire> language
[07:32] <Cntryboy> zaire: talking to me?
[07:32] <Zaire> no was talking to notamisfit
[07:32] <aegeanlinux> pacman does deps, never had an issue with it
[07:33] <notamisfit> Zaire: my bad. most of my vocab is four letters long
[07:33] <Cntryboy> what is the kubuntu xgl channel please
[07:33] <aegeanlinux> #ubuntu-xgl i think
[07:33] <Cntryboy> kk
[07:33] <Cntryboy> thx
[07:34] <Zaire> this is the only real help for DVD srink but it doesn't seem to want to work
[07:34] <Zaire> http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/
[07:34] <flake> it doesn't understand ./configure
[07:35] <Cntryboy> anyone have xgl installed?
[07:38] <Cntryboy> zzzzzzz
[07:39] <Zaire> http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/ this help doesnt want to work for me
[07:41] <Cntryboy> anyone here?
[07:41] <Cntryboy> grrr
[07:41] <CaptainMorgan> maybe
[07:42] <flake> hey i have to register
[07:42] <flake> ugh
[07:42] <aegeanlinux> Kool Kool
[07:42] <flake> no i don't know all of my basic kommands
[07:42] <flake> i found some doc on the wine website on building it
[07:42] <aegeanlinux> cd ?
[07:42] <flake> yes
[07:43] <flake> cd / mkdir / rmdir/ rm/ etc
[07:43] <flake> sudo
[07:43] <flake> apt-get
[07:43] <flake> and format c:  j/k
[07:43] <Zaire> vi
[07:43] <aegeanlinux> good, cd into the directory where you save the file
[07:43] <Zaire> ls
[07:43] <Zaire> ll
[07:43] <Zaire> ls -l
[07:43] <aegeanlinux> Zaire: Quiet!
[07:43] <flake> i'm not familiar with the file structure
[07:43] <Zaire> make me lol
[07:43] <flake> usr/bin or usr/local/wine ?  have to find it
[07:43] <Zaire> mv
[07:44] <aegeanlinux> pls wait ...
[07:44] <Zaire> passwd lol
[07:44] <aegeanlinux> ZAIRE: QUIET!
[07:44] <Zaire> lol
[07:44] <aegeanlinux> ok type::
[07:44] <aegeanlinux> or copy & paste
[07:44] <aegeanlinux> wget http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/wine/wine-0.9.17.tar.bz2
[07:45] <aegeanlinux> once thats done type:
[07:45] <aegeanlinux> tar -zvf wine-0.9.17.tar.bz2
[07:45] <aegeanlinux> then
[07:45] <aegeanlinux> ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --enable-opengl --with-x
[07:45] <Zaire> you don't need to use wget for wint apt works fine
[07:45] <aegeanlinux> make
[07:45] <Zaire> wine*
[07:45] <aegeanlinux> we want the latest wine
[07:45] <aegeanlinux> .17
[07:45] <Zaire> it is
[07:45] <aegeanlinux> is it?
[07:46] <aegeanlinux> thought apt's was .16
[07:46] <Zaire> it updates regular
[07:46] <aegeanlinux> kk
[07:46] <flake> ./configure - no such file or directory
[07:46] <aegeanlinux> nm bout it
[07:46] <Zaire> you just prob need to apt-get update thats all
[07:46] <aegeanlinux> just sudo apt-get wine
[07:46] <aegeanlinux> and sudo apt-get update
[07:47] <flake> i take it not all components of gcc are on my system?
[07:47] <aegeanlinux> probebly not
[07:47] <flaccid> should you reboot after a dist-upgrade?
[07:47] <aegeanlinux> this is not windows
[07:47] <Zaire> umm agrees prob not lol
[07:47] <aegeanlinux> aka no
[07:47] <aegeanlinux> ;)
[07:47] <flaccid> doesn't it update the kernel if a new one is available?
[07:47] <Zaire> bah winblows lol
[07:47] <flake> great answer aegean
[07:47] <aegeanlinux> yes
[07:48] <aegeanlinux> only kernel updates need reboot
[07:48] <flaccid> so how do i boot the kernel without rebooting?
[07:48] <aegeanlinux> just don't warry about it
[07:48] <flaccid> ok so i do reboot
[07:48] <Zaire> umm you don't
[07:48] <aegeanlinux> yeah
[07:48] <Zaire> yea reboots lol
[07:48] <aegeanlinux> you need to reboot after a kernel update
[07:48] <flaccid> exactly
[07:48] <aegeanlinux> otherwise you still run old kernel , but thats like the only time
[07:49] <Zaire> I like use for that sudo init 6 lol
[07:49] <aegeanlinux> that doesn't load the new kernel though Zaire
[07:49] <Zaire> nope it restarts
[07:49] <aegeanlinux> smart arse.
[07:49] <Zaire> init 0 is shutdown and init 1 is single user mode
[07:49] <aegeanlinux> I dont care!
[07:49] <flaccid> cool
[07:50] <Zaire> 5 is gui
[07:50] <flaccid> hes just sharing his config
[07:50] <scabootssca> how do i mount a li9nux partition from liver cd?
[07:50] <scabootssca> live
[07:50] <Zaire> well just my knowledge really lol
[07:51] <RichJ> nalioth, /aq script and what not, where can i grab that bad mamma jamma?
[07:52] <flake> ok, i followed the directions on the wine site
[07:53] <flake> says upgrading office 2.0.2 to 2.0.2 - don't it know there's a 2.0.3 out?
[07:53] <aegeanlinux> Kubuntu doesn't always have the latest software
[07:53] <notamisfit> flake: they've got to test it first
[07:54] <Zaire> hence the apt update though
[07:54] <flake> oh
[07:54] <Zaire> well I gtg work tomorrow
[07:54] <aegeanlinux> open office is only 2.0.2 in the repos though
[07:54] <flaccid> scabootssca: just the same as mounting usually
[07:55] <scabootssca> i got it
[07:55] <scabootssca> i couldnt remember the flags
[07:55] <scabootssca> how do i uninstall programs from a mounted linux drive
[07:56] <notamisfit> scabootssca: you'll probably have to chroot for that
[07:56] <scabootssca> ?
[07:56] <scabootssca> chroot? a package
[07:56] <aegeanlinux> is it another ubunutu/kubuntu drive
[07:56] <notamisfit> scabootssca: chroot /mnt/ubuntu /bin/bash
[07:56] <aegeanlinux> if so
[07:56] <aegeanlinux> just ^^
[07:56] <Kwukki> how can i install Bon Echo beta 1?
[07:56] <notamisfit> scabootssca: and then use apt or aptitude
[07:56] <luc45> im being asked in a installation to write the directory where the symbolic links will be created... what are symbolic links?
[07:57] <notamisfit> Kwukki: download it; at least that's what I did
[08:00] <scabootssca> anybody know what the ati drivers are called?
[08:03] <luc45> !ati
[08:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:05] <luc45> posthuman ?
[08:05] <posthuman> hi.
[08:05] <luc45> hi
[08:06] <luc45> what's up?
[08:06] <posthuman> bored
[08:06] <posthuman> lol
[08:06] <posthuman> you?
[08:06] <luc45> same here
[08:07] <posthuman> ahh yeah i gotta download that
[08:07] <posthuman> that will help cure boredom
[08:09] <TheHighChild> luc45: You try out the No Quarter mod yet?
[08:09] <fiyawerx> i played that for like an hour trying to figure out this 'trick jumping' thing
[08:10] <fiyawerx> then gave up
[08:10] <TheHighChild> fiyawerx: It's not trick jumping. It's double jump, press the space bar twice.
[08:10] <fiyawerx> no no, you can jump farther by doing wierd things
[08:10] <fiyawerx> like hitting strafe buttons and moving your mouse in a circle while jumping
[08:10] <fiyawerx> its like voodoo
[08:11] <TheHighChild> lol, strafe jumping?
[08:11] <fiyawerx> i guess, i couldn't do it
[08:11] <TheHighChild> It takes a lot of practice and coordination
[08:11] <fiyawerx> like you hold shift, hit forward, jump, hit strafe, turn diagnol
[08:11] <fiyawerx> some of the trick jump servers were neat tho
[08:11] <fiyawerx> like you have to get to the checkpoints and stuff and they're really hard to
[08:13] <fiyawerx> well, really hard for someone who can't strafe jump
[08:13] <TheHighChild> all strafe jumping is pressing the run key and jumping while moving the crosshair left and right. When you get it down, you can barrel across a map
[08:13] <TheHighChild> but there isn't too much of that in No Quarter
[08:15] <flaccid> bbl
[08:16] <aegeanlinux> kk
[08:16] <Kwukki>  /home/pieter/Desktop/Bon Echo/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:17] <Kwukki> what can i o now?
[08:18] <Ertain> Hello anyone.  I can't seem to start my screensaver.  I'm sure everything is installed (The Kscreensaver stuff, as well as the Xscreensaver stuff.)  I've also taken to starting the Xscreensaver daemon.  But that's just for xscreensaver.  Any ideas?
[08:20] <posthuman> kwukk...I'd just install firefox with apt-get
[08:20] <posthuman> apt-get install firefox .. should work, I think
[08:21] <Kwukki> yes, it is bon echo beta1
[08:21] <Kwukki> apt-get is version 1.5
[08:21] <posthuman> that may install the missing librarie file?  JUst a guess.  I downloaded the beta and untared it..worked right off
[08:21] <posthuman> but i also have firefox installed
[08:21] <posthuman> not sure though
[08:21] <Kwukki> i have 1.5 installed :-s
[08:21] <posthuman> hmm
[08:22] <Kwukki> no idea?
[08:23] <posthuman> not off hand =\.  You could search for that file, see if you have it.  Is it in the firefox directory?
[08:23] <posthuman> seems odd that it wouldnt be there
[08:24] <posthuman> could do a locate libmozjs.so
[08:24] <posthuman> see if its somewhere..and if its in a weird area, link it to /usr/lib
[08:25] <posthuman> probably not the best way of doing it, but would fix the problem
[08:25] <posthuman> if it is there somewhere
[08:26] <Kwukki> libmozjs is in the firefox dir :-s
[08:26] <TheHighChild> Kwukki: You'd need to execute the 'firefox' not 'firefox-bin'
[08:26] <posthuman> ah yes, that too
[08:26] <posthuman> if you were doing firefox-bin
[08:26] <posthuman> lol
[08:26] <posthuman> :)
[08:27] <Kwukki> if i execute firefox, notthing happens
[08:27] <notamisfit> gotta love bon echo. two years just to produce an opera clone
[08:27] <pyrooo> hello
[08:27] <TheHighChild> Kwukki: DO you still have the tarball?
[08:27] <pyrooo> please help me, how can i toggle languages in kubuntu? shift+alt doesn't work
[08:27] <Kwukki> yep
[08:27] <posthuman> try opening it via console?
[08:27] <posthuman> ./firefox
[08:27] <Kwukki> i'll wait for the final
[08:28] <Ertain> I just read that the screensaver problem has been fixed in Edgy, but I don't want to upgrade to Edgy, since it could break my system.  Any ideas?
[08:28] <posthuman> does bon echo have the built in torrent thing?
[08:28] <posthuman> heh
[08:28] <posthuman> I like that in opera
[08:28] <intelikey> yuch,,,  not sure what i borked but mc is full of ""  and incase that doesn't look the same there as here it's little squares with letter 'a' having a spade over it between each pair of squares
[08:28] <notamisfit> posthuman: doubt it. That might actually be worth it
[08:29] <_rince_> mrgn
[08:29] <luc45> TheHighChild: im back. no i didnt.
[08:29] <posthuman> lol.
[08:29] <TheHighChild> Kwukki: cd to the directory with the tarball and untar it into /opt          'tar xvzf Bon*.tar.bz && mv firefox /opt' then execute it with /opt/firefox/firefox
[08:30] <Kwukki> k
[08:30] <fiyawerx> !sources
[08:30] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:30] <TheHighChild> luc45: A couple of my friends made  it, it's a very cool mod, new weapons, etc
[08:30] <fiyawerx> !easysource
[08:30] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:30] <luc45> TheHighChild: allright i'll give it a try
[08:30] <pyrooo> how do make kubuntu toggle laguages using alt+shift?
[08:30] <pyrooo> cuz it doesn't work
[08:31] <TheHighChild> pyrooo: I think languages are at kde load time, I could be wrong though
[08:31] <luc45> TheHighChild: i'm with Tru Combat: Elite though
[08:33] <TheHighChild> Kwukki: Actuallly, you'll need to use sudo with the mv command to move it to /opt
[08:33] <Kwukki> i know
[08:33] <Kwukki> KDEInit kon '/opt/firefox/firefox' niet opstarten.
[08:33] <intelikey> hmmm the wierd change seems to have only affected high number consoles ....      <puzzeled/>
[08:33] <Kwukki> chmod /opt/firefox?
[08:33] <intelikey> tty7+
[08:34] <luc45> TheHighChild: where do i get it?
[08:34] <TheHighChild> simply typing /opt/firefox/firefox should work, if it doesn't cd into /opt/firefox and type './firefox' and see if that works
[08:35] <intelikey> ?
[08:35] <TheHighChild> luc45: Only one server is running it right now, it will autodownload. 82.165.190.77:27960
[08:35] <intelikey> lol
[08:36] <luc45> TheHighChild: that sound bad... want some screenies first
[08:36] <luc45> :p
[08:36] <intelikey> if typing exact path doesn't work try relative path.... lol      8=|}
[08:36] <TheHighChild> lol, you can go to our forums www.shitstorm.org there is a section for the No Quarter stuff, should be screenshots in there
[08:37] <luc45> k
[08:38] <TheHighChild> luc45: Do you use xqf?
[08:38] <luc45> dunno
[08:38] <luc45> :-p
[08:38] <luc45> whats that?
[08:39] <TheHighChild> You'd know if you did. It's a server browser for tux. You can put your favorites in there, etc
[08:39] <TheHighChild> http://www.linuxgames.com/xqf/index.shtml
[08:40] <luc45> TheHighChild: wow nice
[08:40] <TheHighChild> luc45: Yeah, it's cool. I got even more lazy and just started making scripts in my .bashrc to conenct to servers. lol, too easy on linux
[08:40] <stanks> hello
[08:41] <luc45> lol
[08:41] <stanks> how to install driver for nvidia?
[08:41] <TheHighChild> luc45: Here's the spladderladder listing for our mod
[08:41] <notamisfit> !nvidia > stanks
[08:41] <TheHighChild> http://et.splatterladder.com/?mod=serverinfo&idx=142497
[08:41] <stanks> !nvidia
[08:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:42] <stanks> thx
[08:42] <MasterEvilAce> is fat the only filesystem that is readable/writable between XP and Linux?
[08:43] <MasterEvilAce> windows xp that is
[08:44] <aegeanlinux> MasterEvilAce: There is a program that allows you to read ext3 hard drives in windows XP
[08:44] <luc45> TheHighChild: allright.im trying it. brb
[08:44] <TheHighChild> MasterEvilAce: out of the box yes. You can download some software to read/write from windows to ext
[08:44] <MasterEvilAce> any version of EXT?
[08:44] <TheHighChild> MasterEvilAce: I think but cannot say for sure
[08:57] <ethic> whois
[08:58] <Kwukki> i had a driver for all versions of  ext (XP)
[08:58] <Kwukki> it exists
[09:14] <fiyawerx> hey guys, i tried installing java via adept, and i couldnt "accept" the ok license agreement
[09:14] <fiyawerx> i had to just x out
[09:14] <fiyawerx> now after a reboot, the updater is saying something else is running
[09:14] <fiyawerx> even tho nothing is
[09:19] <Kwukki> i had the same problem
[09:19] <Kwukki> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:19] <NickGarvey> fiyawerx: heh you live near me
[09:19] <fiyawerx> where ya from nick?
[09:19] <NickGarvey> < scotia-glenville (near schenectady)
[09:19] <fiyawerx> cool
[09:19] <marcus__> what is the apt-get command to install synaptic please?
[09:20] <fiyawerx> i just moved up here a year ago
[09:20] <Kwukki> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[09:20] <fiyawerx> i'm in east greenbush
[09:20] <NickGarvey> oh thats pretty close
[09:20] <Kwukki> fiyawerx: country? :-s
[09:20] <marcus__> Kwukki:  I tried that. It denied it was there
[09:20] <NickGarvey> thats where my cdlug meetings are held I believe
[09:20] <fiyawerx> Kwukki: that was for NickGarvey
[09:20] <Kwukki> marcus__ : strange
[09:20] <fiyawerx> NickGarvey: cdlug?
[09:20] <Kwukki> fiyawerx : I know
[09:21] <NickGarvey> fiyawerx: capital district linux users group
[09:21] <marcus__> kwukki: I am doing new install of Kubuntu dapper drake
[09:21] <fek> moin
[09:21] <centyx> hey all
[09:21] <Kwukki> you can install itwith adept
[09:21] <marcus__> Kwukki: I can only get adept to come up
[09:21] <NickGarvey> fiyawerx: http://cdlug.net/
[09:21] <fiyawerx> NickGarvey: oh, thats nifty, i havn't looked into _anything_ aorund here like that, heh
[09:21] <Kwukki> install synaptic with adept?
[09:21] <marcus__> Kwukki: How do I get adept to change from easy mode?
[09:22] <Kwukki> easy mode?
[09:22] <Kwukki> Kmenu> System>Adept
[09:22] <marcus__> kwukki: Okay I can get add remove programs, but adept will not load
[09:22] <Kwukki> wow?
[09:22] <marcus__> kwukki: my mistake
[09:22] <Kwukki> k
[09:24] <marcus__> Got adept to load but cant change repositories
[09:24] <FHX> Does anyone know how I could stop the sound/picture lags when watching videos on Kubuntu?
[09:27] <fiyawerx> NickGarvey: wonder how many are introduced to ubuntu hehe
[09:27] <NickGarvey> fiyawerx: in cdlug? I know a few people use it for sure
[09:27] <marcus__> Still no luck with adept
[09:27] <fiyawerx> NickGarvey: neat
[09:29] <marcus__> can i get some help with adept please?
[09:29] <centyx> marcus__: what's the problem?
[09:29] <marcus__> centyx: adept only shows me the packages I have installed
[09:30] <centyx> marcus__: in the dropdown menu next to search, have you selected Any Suite?
[09:31] <marcus__> centyx: apperently the extra repositories were commented out because they failed to verify
[09:31] <centyx> marcus__: ah.
[09:32] <marcus__> centyx: how do i get those repositories back?
[09:33] <centyx> http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:33] <centyx> the second link
[09:34] <centyx> er
[09:34] <centyx> yea
[09:36] <intelikey> hmmm interesting error.   at the login prompt, i type the name.  it asks for the passwd,  i type the passwd.   it returns to the login prompt.         ;/
[09:36] <intelikey> zeos-486 login: guest
[09:36] <intelikey> Password:
[09:36] <intelikey> zeos-486 login:
[09:37] <intelikey> aint that cute ?
[09:37] <centyx> marcus__: click on the Adept menu, and click Manage Repositories. If that doesn't work, open a Konsole window and follow these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[09:39] <centyx> intelikey: boot into single user mode and look at the logs or something
[09:40] <centyx> intelikey: just look around
[09:40] <intelikey> i'm gonna reboot as soon as this dl is finished.
[09:40] <intelikey> but it will be a little while.
[09:40] <centyx> heh
[09:40] <intelikey> :)
[09:41] <fiyawerx> talk about a typo
[09:41] <intelikey> centyx you using kubuntu ?
[09:41] <centyx> intelikey: yea
[09:41] <fiyawerx> i meant to say l = id10t, and typed i = instead :(
[09:42] <intelikey> centyx what's the permissions on /root ?
[09:42] <centyx> 755
[09:42] <intelikey> fiyawerx lol  :)
[09:42] <centyx> root:root
[09:43] <intelikey> was it a typo ?
[09:43] <ColonelKernel> hey can somebody tell me how I can set up a partition in Kubuntu so that Windows can use it?  I have Kubuntu installed on a separate hard drive, and Windows can't see the 10gb i want it to have
[09:43] <intelikey> world readable
[09:43] <centyx> intelikey: yea
[09:43] <intelikey> doesn't that break all kinds of security standards ?
[09:44] <centyx> intelikey: what do you call being able to sudo su - ?
[09:44] <Lynoure> intelikey: This is a user support channel. So best most people here can do it to tell you to file a bug. It's not by far the only linux distro that does that, so you might want to refer to the standards in the bug report
[09:44] <centyx> intelikey: I don't think that kubuntu/ubuntu is about security
[09:44] <fiyawerx> centyx: rhetorical
[09:44] <Lynoure> intelikey: There is #ubuntu-dev , too
[09:44] <fiyawerx> centyx: just sudo -
[09:45] <ColonelKernel> nobody?
[09:45] <centyx> intelikey: i personally don't mind
[09:45] <ColonelKernel> alrighty, np, i'll try back l8r...
[09:46] <centyx> ColonelKernel: ColonelKernel hey
[09:46] <intelikey> centyx i agree...   i changed mine to 000 like /root was on all linux systems i ever messed with until this one.   and kdm changed it back.
[09:46] <ColonelKernel> centyx: yeah?
[09:46] <centyx> ColonelKernel: there's a program called Total Commander or something like that for windows, it's shareware, it'll read ext2/ext3 I think
[09:46] <centyx> ColonelKernel: it's a file manager
[09:46] <ColonelKernel> centyx: aha.
[09:46] <ColonelKernel> centyx: so strange, windows reads the drive as 0 bytes available RAW
[09:47] <ColonelKernel> centyx: i'll try that program.
[09:47] <intelikey> centyx "what do you call being able to sudo su - ?"  the worst plan i've seen yet.   but don't tell the developers that....
[09:47] <centyx> intelikey: i think it's great
[09:47] <centyx> :P
[09:47] <intelikey> :)
[09:48] <centyx> i'm really not worried about someone pwning my home computer
[09:48] <centyx> maybe i should be
[09:48] <centyx> i duno
[09:48] <Lynoure> centyx: not worried but prepared.
[09:48] <intelikey> centyx makes it easier to put a root kit on someone elses box  ;/
[09:48] <ColonelKernel> centyx: lol i was considering giving this guy root access to help me with sound?
[09:49] <ColonelKernel> centyx: and like 15 people were like HELL NO DONT DO IT
[09:49] <ColonelKernel> centyx: funny as hell... therefore, I'll pass it on.  be worried ;D
[09:49] <centyx> ColonelKernel: I wouldn't do that...
[09:49] <Lynoure> I know I sometimes do stuff that makes having full sudo risky (like installing binary only stuff I don't completely trust... but there are rate things I trust completely)
[09:50] <centyx> Lynoure: yea, me too. that's the only time I really get nervous.
[09:50] <ColonelKernel> centyx: exactly.  i was about to too.  good thing people are watchin me :D
[09:50] <intelikey> and i don't....   :)
[09:50] <centyx> ColonelKernel: ;)
[09:50] <ColonelKernel> :D
[09:51] <centyx> ColonelKernel: you ever played the game Tron 2.0?
[09:51] <ColonelKernel> centyx: nope.
[09:51] <saj> hi, does kubuntu allow
[09:51] <saj> mltiple
[09:51] <centyx> ColonelKernel: k, n/m
[09:51] <ColonelKernel> centyx: btw that program can't read the hd neither
[09:51] <saj> programs to use the sound system
[09:51] <ColonelKernel> *either
[09:51] <saj> at the same time?
[09:51] <centyx> ColonelKernel: ah
[09:51] <fiyawerx> i think you can play around with /etc/sudoers to change what you can actually sudo do
[09:51] <ColonelKernel> centyx: now what. :D
[09:52] <fiyawerx> that and the groups you get by default
[09:52] <centyx> visudo
[09:52] <intelikey> saj yes.   but the channel doesn't allow using the return key as a word spacing key
[09:52] <dAbReAkA> anyone here?
[09:53] <ColonelKernel> centyx: should I try the partitioning utility in Kubuntu? would that be able to format the disk for windows use?
[09:53] <centyx> ColonelKernel: I guess you'll need to setup another partition. I guess fat32.
[09:53] <centyx> ColonelKernel: like a partition for data
[09:53] <ColonelKernel> centyx: not NTSC?
[09:53] <centyx> ColonelKernel: the NT driver for linux is very limited
[09:53] <dAbReAkA> i have a problem configuring kubuntu.. it's sound cards related..
[09:53] <dAbReAkA> anyone willing to help?
[09:53] <ColonelKernel> centyx: ok.  just to clarify, windows can read fat32 right? lol i'm such a noob...
[09:54] <centyx> ColonelKernel: keep your main ext3 or whatever partition for linux
[09:54] <ColonelKernel> centyx: got it.  thanks a lot man.
[09:54] <centyx> ColonelKernel: and setup an extra partition that they both can read, fat32
[09:54] <intelikey> ColonelKernel no not ntfs.   ntfs is not fully supported in linux
[09:54] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: i gathered
[09:55] <ColonelKernel> anybody know why the IRC is so much more helpful than the forums?
[09:55] <ColonelKernel> forums have like 15 questions with 0 replies
[09:55] <ColonelKernel> just kinda odd...
[09:55] <intelikey> ColonelKernel yeah, i'm lagging so move my posts up near the top of the page any they will be in order as i type them....
[09:55] <ColonelKernel> oh lol
[09:56] <ColonelKernel> i'll stick to the IRC all the same :D.  thanks guys
[09:56] <centyx> ColonelKernel: irc's kindof hit or miss tho, depends on who's on and what kindof mood they're in
[09:56] <fiyawerx> dAbReAkA: better to just ask your question
[09:56] <dAbReAkA> anyone know how can i make my first sound card the default for output, and the second one the default for input.. kubuntu 6.06 properly detects them both..
[09:56] <fiyawerx> !ask
[09:56] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:56] <ColonelKernel> centyx: thats true :D
[09:57] <centyx> i should go back to bed
[09:57] <centyx> i got up to let the dog out
[09:57] <ColonelKernel> so far, top 5 most helpful people: lol: abattoir, crimsun, centyx, intelikey, and teknosomething
[09:57] <ColonelKernel> lol
[09:57] <fiyawerx> dAbReAkA: i'm not too familiar with it, but maybe in kmix?
[09:57] <ColonelKernel> anyway, cya guys l8r
[09:57] <dAbReAkA> maybe, but i i dont know how :)
[09:58] <dAbReAkA> i've got my 5.1 subwoofer connected to the first sound card
[09:58] <dAbReAkA> and my mic connected to the second one
[09:59] <intelikey> i would ask "why not to the same card?"  but i hate to jump in the middle of things...
[10:00] <dAbReAkA> because the first one has no available slots
[10:00] <dAbReAkA> the second one can support both of them
[10:00] <dAbReAkA> but the sound is weird.. stupid old cmedia.. so i use it only for the mic and it works fine..
[10:01] <centyx> heh
[10:02] <centyx> anybody know of a good itunes client for linux?
[10:03] <centyx> i've never even used itunes, but i've seen all this stuff online like "College courses from Ucal at Berkeley on itunes, click here" and danny phantom episodes and stuff
[10:03] <fiyawerx> does itunes work in wine?
[10:04] <intelikey> i read the other day that 'france' was going to force itunes to offer M$ compatability
[10:05] <intelikey> in that country of course.
[10:05] <ColonelKernel> centyx: need help again. same problem
[10:05] <MrFaber> hi all
[10:05] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: or you ;D
[10:05] <fiyawerx> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=1347
[10:05] <centyx> ColonelKernel: what's up?
[10:05] <ColonelKernel> centyx: i'm logged in to Kubuntu
[10:05] <MrFaber> is it possible without destroying dapper to install xorg 6.8?
[10:05] <ColonelKernel> centyx: in the partitioner
[10:06] <ColonelKernel> centyx: it won't let me modify the 17 gb partition at all.
[10:06] <centyx> this is sad. I'm on irc, in putty, in windows, in vmware-player, in kubuntu, so i can try out itunes
[10:06] <ColonelKernel> centyx: lol. itunes isn't all that great
[10:06] <fiyawerx> centyx: hah
[10:06] <intelikey> ColonelKernel is it mounted ?
[10:06] <centyx> ColonelKernel: I've never used the partitioner. what's it called?
[10:07] <fiyawerx> how's kubuntu run in vmware?
[10:07] <ColonelKernel> centyx: called Disk and Filesystems
[10:07] <ColonelKernel> centyx: and no its not mounted
[10:07] <_MR_>  Hi. Did anyone encounter very slow aptitude 'read/write package states' phase on Edgy?
[10:07] <centyx> fiyawerx: i duno, i'm running windows in vmware
[10:07] <MrFaber> fiyawerx, who cares about Itunes, more important is Jagged Alliance 2 wildfire which doesn't work anymore
[10:07] <MrFaber> ;)
[10:07] <fiyawerx> oh, werd
[10:07] <fiyawerx> how's windows run in vmware?
[10:07] <fiyawerx> :)
[10:07] <MrFaber> centyx, but vmware isn't free
[10:07] <centyx> MrFaber: vmware-player is :)
[10:07] <ColonelKernel> centyx: any ideas?
[10:07] <centyx> ColonelKernel: 1 sec
[10:07] <fiyawerx> virtualPC is free now
[10:07] <fiyawerx> if anyone didn't know yet
[10:08] <MrFaber> flake, you coud try Qemu
[10:08] <MrFaber> sorry flake
[10:08] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: any ideas?
[10:08] <MrFaber> fiyawerx, try Qemu
[10:08] <ColonelKernel> !de
[10:08] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:08] <ColonelKernel> lol whee....
[10:08] <centyx> oh, it's not free like libre
[10:08] <centyx> but it's free to use
[10:08] <intelikey> ColonelKernel is there data on it that you want to keep ?
[10:08] <centyx> that's good enough for me
[10:08] <fiyawerx> me too
[10:08] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: not on that partition. on the drive though
[10:08] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: same drive as kubuntu's ext3 and swap
[10:09] <fiyawerx> not that i really need virtual pc's for anything tho, i just dual boot
[10:09] <centyx> ColonelKernel: blow away the partition then and recreate it
[10:09] <ColonelKernel> centyx: can't.
[10:09] <^osh^> centyx: fiyawerx: VMWare is also free to use.
[10:09] <fiyawerx>  ^osh^ thats what i just said
[10:09] <ColonelKernel> centyx: won't let me bloody touch the partition
[10:09] <intelikey> ColonelKernel terminal command    sudo cfdisk /dev/hd?       where ? is the proper device...
[10:09] <fiyawerx> ^osh^: nevermind, no it's not
[10:09] <fiyawerx> ^osh^: sorry, tired
[10:10] <ColonelKernel> ok wait plz
[10:10] <^osh^> fiyawerx: Oh, sorry. I wasn't paying attention. But you said player. Isn't server also free. I think I run that now.
[10:10] <centyx> ColonelKernel: what app is this?
[10:10] <ColonelKernel> centyx: i told you, Disk & Filesystems
[10:10] <fiyawerx> ^osh^: oh, no clue, never ran any of them, meant virtualPC from microsoft is now free
[10:10] <centyx> ColonelKernel: sorry, I'm new to kubuntu... having trouble finding it
[10:10] <centyx> ColonelKernel: :P
[10:10] <fiyawerx> can't think of anything i'd run virtual machines for really
[10:10] <fiyawerx> i'd rather just be in the real thing most of the time
[10:10] <ColonelKernel> centyx: under system settings
[10:11] <ColonelKernel> centyx: at the bottom
[10:11] <fiyawerx> only thing i use windows for is playing sims and halo, and i doubt they'd run well like that hehe
[10:11] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: ok i did that now what/
[10:11] <centyx> ColonelKernel: oh yea there it is
[10:11] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: did that delete the partition?
[10:11] <ColonelKernel> centyx: :D
[10:11] <centyx> ColonelKernel: had you entered administrator mode in the gui before you tried to delete it?
[10:11] <ColonelKernel> centyx: yes.
[10:12] <^osh^> fiyawerx: development. that's what I use it for. Keep a few different machines and use them for development. When you screw up royyally, just delete and ad restart.
[10:12] <intelikey> ColonelKernel it should have opened an interactive drive partitioning tool  cfdisk     did it ?
[10:12] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: yessir
[10:12] <centyx> ColonelKernel: bah just do what intelikey sais. I'm not familiar w/ this gui thing either. cfdisk works fine.
[10:12] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: says I have 18gb of space, as if that partition doesn't exist
[10:12] <fiyawerx> ^osh^: hmm, thats not a bad idea, i was thinking of starting to learn QT stuff, but i'd want it to run in windows too
[10:12] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: should i go for makin a new partition?
[10:13] <ColonelKernel> whoops
[10:13] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: nevermind, i forgot that this is editing the partition.
[10:13] <intelikey> nuke the partition you want to nuke.  make new ones as you like.   then save and exit.
[10:13] <centyx> oh the gui horror!
[10:13] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: how do I nuke this one? i did cfdisc /dev/hdb1 i.e. the partition i want to nuke
[10:13] <centyx> melting my brain
[10:14] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: do i redo without the number?
[10:14] <intelikey> not hdb1      sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb
[10:14] <centyx> ColonelKernel: move the cursor down so it's hilited and then hit d
[10:14] <centyx> oh
[10:14] <centyx> that might help
[10:15] <intelikey> don't forget i'm lagging about 30 seconds.
[10:15] <ColonelKernel> centyx: ok lol
[10:15] <ColonelKernel> oops
[10:15] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: ok lol
[10:15] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: 46 ms for me :D
[10:16] <arkygeek> hi everyone.  i have a laptop with an intel i915 and i am trying to use both my laptop screen and an external monitor at the same time as extra desktop space - where do i enable the dual head option of this card?
[10:16] <ColonelKernel> hmm. fatal error, bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions overlap.
[10:16] <ColonelKernel> interesting...
[10:16] <intelikey> yeah dl is eating all my 'band-narrowness'      "dialup doesn't have 'band-width' you know"
[10:16] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: LOL
[10:16] <centyx> intelikey: dialup! i feel yourpain
[10:17] <intelikey> eeeek partition table is hosed.    save your data to another disk.
[10:17] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: what? i don't understand
[10:17] <centyx> ;/
[10:17] <chavo> for the longest time I thought I was going to be the last person on earth using dialup
[10:17] <centyx> chavo: yea same here
[10:17] <chavo> finally got cable here :)
[10:18] <intelikey>  partitions overlap <--- means that both may "probably are" lost.
[10:19] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: one of the partitions is what Kubuntu is installed on.  I can't fix that problem withou a format?
[10:19] <ColonelKernel> centyx: is w95 fat32 the rightr format?
[10:20] <centyx> ColonelKernel: yea that's the right format
[10:20] <ColonelKernel> centyx: k
[10:20] <centyx> man.
[10:20] <centyx> $30 for Danny Phantom season 1
[10:20] <centyx> i was hoping it'd be free
[10:21] <centyx> itunes is lame
[10:21] <centyx> :P
[10:21] <ColonelKernel> affirmative
[10:21] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: i don't see how if the partitions overlap kubuntu is running.
[10:22] <intelikey> ColonelKernel all i can say for sure is "if you have files that you care to have access to on the next reboot"  then you should seriously consider making a backup on cdr  or another hd  while you still can.    if the partition table is corupted when you unmount the partition may be the last time you ever see it.
[10:22] <centyx> I've had os's run on severely messed up partition tables before
[10:22] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: not worried about that, just don't really wanna reinstall kubuntu.  i've rebooted like 10 times since the installation with no trouble though
[10:22] <centyx> they ran ok, i just couldn't create any more partitions
[10:22] <intelikey> ColonelKernel because the partition table was changed after the fs was mounted, i would guess.
[10:22] <ColonelKernel> centyx: that sux cause I really need the space
[10:23] <centyx> ColonelKernel: you don't have to reinstall
[10:23] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: hmmm.
[10:23] <ColonelKernel> centyx: really?
[10:23] <centyx> ColonelKernel: do you have a fileserver?
[10:23] <ColonelKernel> centyx: and still get that partition back? and nope.
[10:23] <centyx> hrm
[10:23] <centyx> ColonelKernel: do you have another computer in the house on the network?
[10:23] <ColonelKernel> centyx: yes, but the file sharing doesn't work currently
[10:23] <cox377> is there any tweaks for kubuntu?
[10:23] <ColonelKernel> centyx: if that's wat ur getting at
[10:24] <ColonelKernel> cox377: millions...
[10:24] <intelikey> and the way the installer works (assuming you used the livecd) i wouldn't want to reload either.
[10:24] <cox377> lol
[10:24] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: true true.
[10:24] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: took like 5 downloads... at least I have the working disc...
[10:24] <centyx> ColonelKernel: how much free space do you have on your linux partition?
[10:24] <cox377> colonelkernel, i've changed the kernal to my CPU
[10:25] <ColonelKernel> centyx: plenty... 14 gb or so
[10:25] <ColonelKernel> cox377: whoope. what are you looking to do?
[10:25] <centyx> ColonelKernel: how much space is kubuntu taking up?
[10:25] <intelikey> ColonelKernel there is an app made for rebuilding partition tables.      let me think of the name....
[10:25] <cox377> well
[10:25] <cox377> speed the thing up a bit
[10:25] <centyx> intelikey: that'd be a lot better than what i'm thinking of
[10:25] <cox377> it just feels sluggish
[10:25] <intelikey> checkdisk maybe ?
[10:25] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: hmmmmmmz...
[10:26] <intelikey> testdisk - Partition scanner and disk recovery tool
[10:26] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: for linux i assume? whats the package name
[10:26] <ColonelKernel> !testdisk
[10:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about testdisk - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:26] <intelikey> ^  that
[10:26] <ColonelKernel> hmmz
[10:26] <intelikey> it's in the repos
[10:26] <ColonelKernel> do you know the apt-get command or do I have to use Adept
[10:26] <centyx> ColonelKernel: apt-cache show testdisk for a description
[10:27] <centyx> ColonelKernel: apt-get install testdisk to install it
[10:27] <intelikey> !info testdisk
[10:27] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In repository universe, is optional. Version 6.1-1 (dapper), package size 386 kB, installed size 1124 kB
[10:27] <ColonelKernel> centyx: thank you
[10:27] <ColonelKernel> sweet
[10:27] <ColonelKernel> installing...
[10:27] <intelikey> yeah sudo that ^  and you got it
[10:27] <cox377> colonelkernel, can u suggest any tweaks for speed
[10:27] <centyx> intelikey: hopefully it'll work
[10:27] <ColonelKernel> cox377: sorry, i'm a n00b... ask somebody else :D
[10:28] <ColonelKernel> centyx: it's installed, now what do I do with it :D
[10:28] <thyko> how do i customize the 'login screen'?
[10:28] <thyko> the one with the huge 'Kubuntu' written on it?
[10:28] <intelikey> ColonelKernel read the warnings and follow the on-screen instructions.
[10:28] <centyx> intelikey: i was gonna have him 1) boot into kubuntu live cd 2) tar up his kubuntu install , dd his windows install 3) install winscp on his other computer, and copy them over
[10:28] <intelikey> centyx hope is good.
[10:28] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: yikes thats a lotta bad stuff
[10:28] <thyko> login manager is unable to change it
[10:29] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: bad bad bad...
[10:29] <centyx> ColonelKernel: i've never used it :P live and learn ;)
[10:29] <ColonelKernel> centyx: yeah wish me luck :D
[10:29] <centyx> i need to go back to bed for real. good luck!
[10:30] <centyx> afk
[10:30] <fiyawerx> man
[10:30] <fiyawerx> on my laptop my wireless stops resolving dns like every 3 minutes for 10-20 seconds
[10:30] <fiyawerx> and i can't figure it out for the life of me
[10:30] <fiyawerx> even if i set it to external dns servers
[10:30] <NickGarvey> I had that problem too
[10:30] <NickGarvey> last night
[10:30] <NickGarvey> drove me nuts
[10:31] <ajay> sup guys
[10:31] <fiyawerx> NickGarvey: roadrunner/time warner?
[10:31] <fiyawerx> it was doing it last night for me too, and seems like it just started again not too long ago
[10:31] <NickGarvey> fiyawerx: ! yes
[10:31] <NickGarvey> fiyawerx: you are in my area!
[10:31] <NickGarvey> fiyawerx: its not just me! excellent
[10:32] <fiyawerx> not excellent, that means it's not something we can fix
[10:32] <fiyawerx> :-P
[10:32] <NickGarvey> haha
[10:32] <NickGarvey> well at least its not something I broke
[10:32] <fiyawerx> right
[10:32] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: YOU ARE A GOD i ran testdisk, had to change heads per cylinder, all fixed
[10:32] <fiyawerx> i was thinking the same thing
[10:32] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: thank you
[10:32] <fiyawerx> roadunners been shite lately
[10:32] <_MR_>  Hi. Did anyone encounter very slow aptitude 'read/write package states' phase on Edgy?
[10:33] <intelikey> hehhe now if my login issue was that simple....
[10:33] <intelikey> i am not "A GOD"   but i know Him   :)
[10:33] <ajay> intelikey: lol
[10:34] <intelikey> and you're welcome.
[10:34] <ColonelKernel> intelikey: lol
[10:34] <ajay> btw i have heard the word GOD too :)
[10:34] <NickGarvey> play golf with him on weekends
[10:35] <ajay> yeah NickGarvey
[10:35] <Cuore_di_latta> hello
[10:35] <ajay> hi
[10:36] <hypodiak> hooroo
[10:37] <intelikey> hypo_diak ???
[10:37] <hypodiak> just installed kubuntu & now plying with kopete, but it seems broken
[10:37] <arkygeek> is there a gui for configuring the intel i915 (ex: enabling 2nd screen, or changing from clone to its own pipe?)
[10:38] <intelikey> oh hy_pod_iak   nm....
[10:38] <hypodiak> intelikey ??
[10:38] <hypodiak> no - hypo diak
[10:38] <intelikey> was just wondering you you said your nickname ?
[10:39] <hypodiak> no - i was asking about kopete on kubuntu
[10:39] <NickGarvey> hypodiak: how is it broken?
[10:40] <hypodiak> it's pretty well broken on fedora 5, and i was just wondering if i'm wqasting my time trying to get it workiung with msn on kubunto
[10:41] <intelikey> i have no clue, sorry.
[10:42] <aegeanlinux> Try installing Gaim
[10:42] <aegeanlinux> its not a KDE app, but its the best app to use MSN
[10:42] <aegeanlinux> also try aMSN
[10:44] <hypodiak> yeah. been using gaim, and i agree.  Whats aMSN? a client or an alternative service?
[10:45] <aegeanlinux> a client
[10:45] <aegeanlinux> its OK
[10:45] <aegeanlinux> MSN only
[10:46] <aegeanlinux> it looks alot like Windows Messenger used to look
[10:46] <hypodiak> ok.  I'll probly stick to gaim, cause I need jabber as well.
[10:47] <aegeanlinux> mmmmm
[10:48] <intelikey> well the chain reaction hasn't reached a critical mass point yet  but the core is overheating.    it seems that every thing i do breaks something else.  console fonts are messed in tty7+ login is hosed on all consoles for all users.   startx will take root to a blue screen with mouse and nothing more.   startx wont do anything for anyone else.  xdm will login any user and imediately reset X   but if i try to login root on 
[10:50] <hypodiak> what have you done?
[10:50] <fiyawerx> porn overload
[10:50] <intelikey> i'm thinking about doing rm -r /root /home && ln -s /dev/null /root && ln -s /dev/null /home       and then reconfigure the system from there....
[10:51] <intelikey> hypodiak removed a few configs in /etc maybe... changed a few permissions...  nothing much really   :)
[10:51] <fiyawerx> heh
[10:52] <intelikey> haven't really goten it the way i want it yet tho    give me time.
[10:53] <intelikey> oh and i removed the partition table on the disk that kubuntu is installed on.
[10:53] <intelikey> but that's standard proceedure for me.
[10:54] <intelikey> and seeing that my home is not in /home  and  root's home is not in /root  i don't think awaxing those two dirs should be any big deal.
[10:55] <hypodiak> okey dokey - I'll leave you to it then... give me a yell if really stuff anything :)
[10:55] <intelikey> as far as i know kdm is the only thing that expects to write to /root  and i removed kdm already (for that cause)
[10:56] <fiyawerx> intelikey: why?
[10:57] <intelikey> "if really stuff anything" ???
[10:57] <hypodiak> sorry - accent problems
[10:58] <Ash-Fox> what daemon runs DHCP?
[10:59] <intelikey> fiyawerx well it all started when i noticed the world readable permissions on /root      /root has always been the "safe" place to keep sensitive data, with perms of 000 but kdm resets it to 755 and then uses it for a tmp dir.   so i set out to fix that.
[11:01] <intelikey> i started on the wrong end of the problem.  i should have just removed kdm and said "there"   but NO!  i had to start fiddeling with system configs.....
[11:01] <Nickay> Hi. I have install from "Package manager" php5. I want to compile Php for apache. I would like to ask where can i find the folder of php in order to configure? Thanks
[11:02] <intelikey> i really havent made up my mind whether to fix it,  or FIX IT!   if you know what i mean.
[11:02] <fiyawerx> !lamp
[11:02] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:02] <fiyawerx> Nickay: libapache2-mod-php5 should take care of that for you
[11:03] <intelikey> Nickay the package manager is the tool for that.    dpkg -L php5\*
[11:03] <Lynoure> intelikey: There are at least three kinds of fixing... For yourself, for everyone or 'fixing' by getting rid of it. The middle one gets bonus points.
[11:03] <ajay> !ajay
[11:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about ajay - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:03] <Nickay> thanks all
[11:04] <centyx> couldn't fall back to sleep
[11:04] <intelikey> and yes Nickay by all means use the binary solution fiyawerx mentioned.
[11:04] <centyx> intelikey: how did the Colonel turn out?
[11:04] <centyx> i'm putting kubuntu on my wife's computer
[11:04] <centyx> she's been complaining about windows
[11:04] <intelikey> Lynoure i am everyone.  on this system.....
[11:05] <intelikey> centyx A+
[11:05] <centyx> intelikey: awesome
[11:06] <intelikey> testdisk rebuilt the partition table and pointed out the problem that caused it...
[11:06] <centyx> wow
[11:06] <centyx> impressive
[11:06] <centyx> I'll have to remembe that one
[11:07] <intelikey> yeah... shame it would never work on one of my hd's
[11:07] <centyx> everytime I've got a hosed partition table in the past, i've just tarred up everything, wiped the disk, remade the partitions, and untarred it again
[11:07] <centyx> intelikey: why's that?
[11:07] <Lynoure> intelikey: you probably still could have guessed what I meant... Fixing it in ubuntu instead of just fixing it on your system
[11:07] <intelikey> i don't have partitions
[11:07] <centyx> oh
[11:08] <mumu> !grub
[11:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:09] <intelikey> Lynoure they would never accept one of my fixes.   i'm old school + anti-automation   the exact oppisite of the ubuntu team.
[11:09] <Lynoure> intelikey: Doesn't hurt to try if you think it's a good fix.
[11:09] <intelikey> also i can't use grub for that same reason centyx
[11:09] <fiyawerx> intelikey: doesn't mean they can't automate your manual fixes
[11:10] <Jack1> hi
[11:10] <centyx> intelikey: that's too bad
[11:10] <centyx> intelikey: what kindof setup do you have?
[11:10] <intelikey> lol
[11:10] <centyx> intelikey: lvm?
[11:10] <fiyawerx> intelikey: why not use a distro that's closer to your target setup?
[11:10] <Jack1> i have several times the same ubuntu kernel entry in grub.dont know why...
[11:11] <intelikey> centyx no.
[11:11] <fiyawerx> Jack1: same exact? or like -23, -25, -26
[11:11] <centyx> intelikey: just use the whole disk?
[11:11] <intelikey> fiyawerx two words.   dialup & shipit
[11:11] <Jack1> fiyawerx exactly the same..ending 686, 386, 6866,386......
[11:11] <fiyawerx> hehe
[11:12] <fiyawerx> Jack1: ah, did you upgrade your kernel to the 686 version?
[11:12] <intelikey> centyx yeah  i have several 4g hdds
[11:12] <centyx> intelikey: surely you have friends w/ broadband
[11:12] <Jack1> fiyawerx yes indee i did
[11:12] <centyx> intelikey: 4g?
[11:12] <intelikey> mmm this box has 8 dirves in it.
[11:12] <fiyawerx> Jack1: that's why, they're actually different versions of the same kernel, when you upgrade it still leaves the others on there
[11:12] <intelikey> centyx not in this county.
[11:12] <fiyawerx> Jack1: im not too sure how to get rid of them, but they don't hurt anything, that way if something goes wrong you can boot into a safer one
[11:13] <centyx> intelikey: good grief man, hard drives are cheap
[11:13] <fiyawerx> Jack1: unless you're hurting for filespace, then someone can prob. help better than me
[11:13] <centyx> intelikey: oh, where are you from?
[11:13] <centyx> intelikey: i figured you were from texas, us
[11:13] <intelikey> centyx yeah  4.2 GB hdd's
[11:13] <intelikey> centyx no.
[11:14] <fiyawerx> using BitchX on a free shell somewhere?
[11:14] <fiyawerx> heh
[11:14] <centyx> intelikey: where are you from then?
[11:14] <intelikey> centyx don't sell me new hardware.  just let me fix the os the way i like it  :)
[11:14] <Jack1> fiyawerx i could have the 386 removed via synaptiv (no prob) but would the othler useless 686 then disappear too?
[11:14] <centyx> intelikey: ok, whatever makes you happy ;)
[11:15] <centyx> intelikey: i used to use those old 4.2gb drives too, but they'd all die so fast
[11:15] <centyx> intelikey: and now big drives are so cheap, where i am anyway
[11:15] <fiyawerx> Jack1: i don't believe so, in synaptic you can prob find the old 686 also
[11:15] <fiyawerx> like one will be 2.6.15-26-686
[11:15] <centyx> not that i can afford them
[11:15] <fiyawerx> one will be 2.6.15-25-686
[11:15] <centyx> i haven't bought any new hardware in 3 years
[11:15] <fiyawerx> you should be able to remove the lower number ok
[11:16] <fiyawerx> im pretty usre
[11:16] <fiyawerx> sure
[11:16] <centyx> the last item i bought was a 250gb harddrive
[11:16] <centyx> now you can get 2 400gb harddrives for the price i paid for it
[11:16] <Jack1> who has a recommendable smartphone working with linux?
[11:16] <centyx> back then
[11:17] <intelikey> centyx yeah, but i have only spent about $100 US  on computers so far.  (not counting a NES back when they came out)   so when you say cheep.   you are probably not thinking the way i think.
[11:17] <fiyawerx> intelikey: since ubuntu doesn't (generally) use root, why not just make a secure folder somewhere else to store private data
[11:17] <centyx> yea i know
[11:18] <centyx> people used to give me hardware a lot
[11:18] <centyx> wish they still did
[11:19] <fiyawerx> whoa, when did the sun come up
[11:19] <centyx> man
[11:19] <centyx> dist-upgrade's been running since i've come back on here
[11:19] <fiyawerx> and why wasn't i informed
[11:19] <intelikey> fiyawerx i have done that.   but mounting 'nosuid' i have to be able to login as root.   and i figure a root passoerd of 60-70 chars is safer than any sudo + short pass that is out there.
[11:19] <centyx> new kubuntu install
[11:20] <fiyawerx> your login password is 60 characters long?
[11:20] <centyx> intelikey: 60-70 characters? you are a little paranoid
[11:20] <fiyawerx> is that possible?
[11:20] <centyx> i never login as root. i just su -
[11:21] <centyx> openbsd put me in that habit w/ it's beligerant badgerings
[11:21] <centyx> :P
[11:21] <centyx> isn't there a kubuntu talk channel for offtopic conversation?
[11:21] <fiyawerx> intelikey: i thought the main reason you were doing all this was because of /root being world readable
[11:21] <intelikey> no.... just not as (no body can hack my box, cause i have linux now) as most *buntu users are.
[11:22] <centyx> offtopic - meaning, not support
[11:22] <centyx> Lynoure: what's the name of that channel?
[11:22] <fiyawerx> !offtopic
[11:22] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:22] <intelikey> fiyawerx that's where it started yes.
[11:22] <centyx> ah
[11:22] <centyx> fiyawerx: thanks
[11:23] <fiyawerx> intelikey: i've had apt-gotten programs make directories that aren't world readable
[11:23] <fiyawerx> so i know it's easily possible
[11:23] <fiyawerx> why didn't you just do that with your own private directory from the start
[11:23] <fiyawerx> and ignore /root
[11:23] <fiyawerx> like /myprivatedirectory
[11:23] <fiyawerx> would have saved a lot of trouble
[11:25] <fiyawerx> oh
[11:26] <fiyawerx> and not all the files in /root are readable, either
[11:26] <intelikey> fiyawerx i have a backup copy of the whole drive....  ;/    so if i do a total revamp and like it. i'll nuke the backup.  if i don't like it. i'll nuke the changed one....    but i do have to do something about root and world readability... what ever i deside to do about it.
[11:26] <fiyawerx> so you could have just set your private file permissions
[11:26] <centyx> seems like in debian i remember having been asked if i wanted world readable homedirs or not
[11:26] <centyx> it's been a while since i installed debian
[11:26] <centyx> using the installer anyway
[11:27] <fiyawerx> intelikey: thats fine, just trying to offer alternatives from all the changes you're doing, that might end up hurting even more in the future because other programs might expect certain setups
[11:27] <fiyawerx> for instance, try to cat /root/.viminfo
[11:27] <intelikey> centyx yes ubuntu hoary used to ask about home dirs
[11:28] <centyx> i wonder if there's a config option somewhere...
[11:28] <intelikey> there should be nothing besides the root user ever read/write in /root
[11:29] <intelikey> that was the whole point of the /root dir to begin with.
[11:29] <centyx> ah does anyone have the link to jriddel's gpg key for kubuntu packages?
[11:29] <centyx> i need to wget it
[11:29] <centyx> i'm not in x
[11:29] <centyx> i guess i can install lynx
[11:29] <centyx> or links
[11:29] <centyx> e
[11:30] <intelikey> or links2    elinks
[11:30] <intelikey> i like links2
[11:30] <centyx> hello rob.
[11:30] <centyx> i've never tried links2, just elinks
[11:30] <rob> hi centyx
[11:30] <fiyawerx> intelikey: have you tried starting a discussion on the world readbale /root in the forums?
[11:30] <intelikey> clean  and does graphics too
[11:31] <fiyawerx> it does graphics in a console?
[11:31] <fiyawerx> ah, does both
[11:32] <intelikey> fiyawerx i'd have to register to do that.   and i have no intintion of regestering,  no offence intended.
[11:32] <fiyawerx> intelikey: none taken, mind if i ask why tho? isn't ubuntu all about contribution?
[11:32] <intelikey> fiyawerx yes.   i also watch vidios in the console with vlc
[11:33] <fiyawerx> i don't think you even need to give htem any real info to register
[11:33] <fiyawerx> and if it would be a help to the community
[11:33] <intelikey> or at least i do...
[11:35] <intelikey> you reg'd ?   you want a discussion started on world readable /root ?     why you trying to get me to do it ?
[11:35] <intelikey> :)
[11:36] <intelikey> fiyawerx centyx at any rate.   gooday mates
[11:36] <fiyawerx> because you're the one that sees it as a problem
[11:36] <fiyawerx> i couldn't argue against it when i don't think it's an issue
[11:37] <fiyawerx> loopz, do you play armagetron?
[11:39] <k2> hi all
[11:39] <k2> what do you see at "linux:8002"?
[11:39] <_niels> Hi Folks!
[11:40] <_niels> I need some assistance
[11:41] <_niels> I have 2 HD's in my System on the 1st device is KUbuntu Dapper and on the 2nd is W$98. As yet I cannot choose while the system is booting which system I want to start
[11:42] <_niels> I had a look at /boot/grub/menu.lst and followed the given example
[11:42] <fiyawerx> !dualboot
[11:42] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[11:42] <fiyawerx> ick
[11:42] <fiyawerx> thats not it heh
[11:42] <fiyawerx> oh
[11:42] <fiyawerx> wow im tired, yeah it is
[11:43] <_niels> but I'm not having a mac
[11:43] <fiyawerx> the first link may help, im not positive, but doesn't windows always want to be the first boot device?
[11:45] <fiyawerx> maybe not, i havn't had any problems with the dual boots, but im going off of the same hard drive
[11:45] <fiyawerx> nto experienced with 2
[11:45] <fiyawerx> i thought as long as the windows drive was there when you installed grub it would detect it
[11:59] <centyx> ok.
[12:00] <centyx> apt-get install nvidia-settings  sais it's going to remove nvidia-glx. what's up with that?
[12:00] <centyx> when i do apt-cache show nvidia-settings, it sais it reccomends nvidia-glx
[12:00] <centyx> what gives
[12:01] <fiyawerx> nvidia-glx is new
[12:01] <fiyawerx> it contains settings and config
[12:02] <fiyawerx> nvidia-glx should be all you need
[12:02] <centyx> ah ok thanks.
[12:02] <fiyawerx> for easy nvidia, i suggest apt-installing that, then do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, use most of the defaults, except for the driver, move it from 'nv' to 'nvidia'
[12:02] <fiyawerx> everyone I know that's tried that has had no problems
[12:03] <centyx> thanks.
[12:03] <fiyawerx> i havnt gotten the nvidia-config-enable thing to work once
[12:03] <fiyawerx> !nvidia
[12:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:06] <centyx> heh. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't give me the right choice for my mouse. all it had was imps2 and exlporerps2. mine's just microsoft i think ( old serial 'Crystal Trackball' from compusa w/ the glowing red ball )
[12:07] <juke_> are there any good flah player that i can watch movies in video.google.com??
[12:07] <centyx> had to fix that manually
[12:07] <fiyawerx> hehe
[12:07] <fiyawerx> sorry
[12:08] <centyx> i want to get one of those kensington expert whatever wireless trackballs
[12:08] <[Nige] > anyone know if the ati drivers and dual monitors is fixed in kubuntu yet?
[12:08] <centyx> [Nige] : no clue
[12:08] <[Nige] > oh well
[12:08] <centyx> !composite
[12:08] <[Nige] > :)
[12:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about composite - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:09] <Sergeant> abattoir??
[12:09] <centyx> fiyawerx: what's the option to force direct rendering while composite extension is enabled?
[12:09] <fiyawerx> centyx: no freakin clue
[12:09] <fiyawerx> is that compiz?
[12:10] <centyx> fiyawerx: what's the point in having a nvidia card in linux if you don't make use of that ;)
[12:10] <centyx> i'll look it up
[12:10] <fiyawerx> centyx: i dunno, didnt know i was missing it to begin with :)
[12:10] <Sergeant> i have installed sfw-player but my browser is still saying that i don't have flah player..why?? :P
[12:11] <fiyawerx> glxgears -printfps gives me around 7600 fps tho
[12:11] <fiyawerx> like 800 fullscreen @ 1280x1024
[12:14] <centyx> man elinks is annoying
[12:15] <Ash-Fox> what daemon runs DHCP?
[12:15] <fiyawerx> dhcpd?
[12:15] <[Nige] > or dhcp3-server :)
[12:16] <Ash-Fox> what is the init script called?
[12:16] <centyx> man this is painful
[12:17] <Ash-Fox> I could of sworm it was /etc/init.d/dhcpd -- But it isn't there.
[12:17] <fiyawerx> do you have dhcpd installed?
[12:17] <fiyawerx> it's not by default i think
[12:17] <fiyawerx> or dhcp3-server
[12:18] <fiyawerx> since i think it uses dhcp3 client normally
[12:18] <fiyawerx> might go with that one like [Nige]  said
[12:18] <fiyawerx> im a nobo
[12:18] <fiyawerx> and then its /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server
[12:18] <Ash-Fox> What a pain.
[12:18] <fiyawerx> what a pain?
[12:18] <fiyawerx> sudo apt-get install dhcp3-server
[12:18] <Ash-Fox> Not the server, the client
[12:18] <fiyawerx> oh
[12:19] <fiyawerx>  /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-script ?
[12:20] <fiyawerx> or maybe /sbin/dhclient or dhclient3? heh
[12:20] <fiyawerx> ah dhclient is a link to dhclient3
[12:21] <fiyawerx> so i think you want /sbin/dhclient3
[12:21] <centyx> found it
[12:21] <fiyawerx> centyx: do share?
[12:21] <centyx> k
[12:23] <centyx> fiyawerx: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Using_the_Composite_extension
[12:23] <centyx> Option      "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true" was what I was looking for
[12:24] <fiyawerx> not sure what thats for tho?
[12:24] <centyx> and you have to enable the composite extension
[12:24] <centyx> fiyawerx: so you can have the translucency and shadows etc :P
[12:24] <centyx> fiyawerx: eye candy
[12:24] <fiyawerx> oh
[12:24] <fiyawerx> !xgl
[12:24] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:25] <fiyawerx> from what i hear _those_ are the real eye candy
[12:25] <centyx> really?
[12:25] <fiyawerx> thats all everyones been talking about
[12:25] <centyx> hm
[12:25] <Ash-Fox> It makes your desktop into one of those desktops you see in the movies
[12:25] <Ash-Fox> all those special effects
[12:25] <fiyawerx> like a 3d desktop selector and stuff
[12:26] <fiyawerx> its supposed to be awesome, i should try it out on my desktop
[12:26] <fiyawerx> centyx: what card do you have?
[12:26] <Ash-Fox> I found it slows down my system, and doesn't really improve anything.
[12:26] <centyx> fiyawerx: an old cheap one.. hold on
[12:26] <fiyawerx> centyx: ahh
[12:26] <fiyawerx> Ash-Fox: yeah, its definately intensive
[12:27] <centyx> fiyawerx: GeForce FX 5200
[12:27] <centyx> it probably won't be able to handle all that
[12:27] <fiyawerx> centyx: goole image search for xgl compiz, here's a screenie of the desktop selector
[12:27] <fiyawerx> http://macslow.thepimp.net/shots/xgl-compiz-fsaa16x-aniso16x.png
[12:28] <centyx> hm
[12:28] <centyx> i don't care about that so much
[12:28] <fiyawerx> there's a lot more
[12:28] <fiyawerx> thats just one part
[12:29] <centyx> i'll check it out
[12:42] <fiyawerx> people always coming and going but nobody ever chats
[12:47] <neoncode> How do I know if i'm running the fglrx drivers?
[12:49] <joho> neoncode: glxinfo
[12:50] <joho> try glxinfo | grep renderer
[01:02] <HTRednek> does anybody have a way to make a wlan autoconnect at startup?
[01:04] <HTRednek> the card starts up and is set to auto in /etc/network/interfaces but i have to go to wireless assistant in order to establish an actual connection.
[01:14] <Nickay> hi. I want to compile PhP with IMAP. I am not able to find any package for PHP+IMAP in the package manager. Hpw can compile php manual?
[01:15] <richardh_> Hi, cdrecord doesn't let me burn using K3b, even after using the k3bsetup...any pointers?
[01:16] <Pupeno> is /otp or /opt ?
[01:16] <Pupeno> Nickay: are you sure php is missing imap support ?
[01:16] <Nickay> yes
[01:17] <Pupeno> $ apt-cache search php | grep imap
[01:17] <Pupeno> php4-imap - IMAP module for php4
[01:17] <Pupeno> php5-imap - IMAP module for php5
[01:17] <Pupeno> Nickay: isn't that enough ?
[01:18] <Nickay> i will try to find it. Thanks
[01:18] <Pupeno> you are welcome.
[01:18] <Tommy2k4> sendmail keeps trying to open on bootup and it lasts like 2mins, even though ive already apt-get remove sendmail and rm /etc/init.d/sendmail
[01:18] <Tommy2k4> what else could i do to stop it
[01:22] <Pupeno> Tommy2k4: I'd try rcconf, but be carefull. Are you 100% sure it is sendmail ?
[01:22] <Nickay> Pupeno: there is not any package with this name. There is not any package with "IMAP".
[01:23] <Tommy2k4> yea it mentions sendmail a few times
[01:23] <Tommy2k4> and something about /etc/mail
[01:24] <philipp__> where do i get the package unrar-nonfree?
[01:26] <philipp__> http://www.kubuntu.de/forum/forum.php?req=thread&id=254 this thread suggests to add http://de.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages and http://security.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages to the source list, but that doesnt seem to help
[01:27] <Nickay> I am try to find php5-imap - imap module but there is any package with this name. is there any other way to compile php for imap manualy?
[01:28] <fre1> do "php5 imap ubuntu" on google, first link. it may help
[01:31] <Nickay> thanks fre1
[01:32] <richardh_> Hi, I'm having trouble getting k3b to work...on dapper, with all updates installed
[01:33] <richardh_> anyone have a similar problem?
[01:34] <richardh_> hmm
[01:37] <londondave>  hi I recently built a driver for an adsl modem with kernel 2.6.15-25, after the automatic upgrade to 2.6.15-26 I rebuilt the driver with the linux headers for the new kernel and the driver as symbol errors?
[01:38] <thyko> how do i customize the 'login screen'?
[01:38] <thyko> the one with the huge 'Kubuntu' written on it?
[01:38] <thyko> login manager is unable to change it
[01:39] <londondave> I can't understand why the modem won't work with the new kernel?
[01:39] <Nickay> fre1: when i am trying to download the php5-imap get error: Could;n find package php5-imap
[01:39] <thyko> londondave: mybe it chaged the device name?
[01:40] <thyko> so the kernel has attached the modem to another device name in /dev
[01:41] <londondave> thyko: when I look at the log it complains about symbols not matching, it does see it but won't work?
[01:41] <Rede> i installed samba which allowed me to share folders with konqueror via windows networking, what do i need to install to allow nfs?
[01:41] <thyko> symbols? hmmm ...
[01:42] <thyko> Nickay: what does 'apt-cache search php | grep imap' give you?
[01:42] <londondave> Its the ueagle-atm driver, I compiled it with the new headers did depmod -a and rebooted, still no joy
[01:42] <londondave> thyko: and yet the same process worked for 2.6.15-25 kernel
[01:43] <richardh_> anyone know of a K3b permissions bug?
[01:43] <thyko> londondave: symbold have something to do with gcc, its a little complicated, and i'm not quite sure how to fix that one
[01:44] <thyko> google for it?
[01:44] <Nickay> thyko:php5-imap
[01:45] <londondave> thyko: wouldn't the update have installed a new gcc or do you think maybe this new kernel has problems with gcc-ueagle compiled no problems and installed ok?
[01:50] <Rede> i upgraded my kernel via adept but when it loads it just displays the black kubuntu screen. i believe this is because i dont have the linux-restricted-modules-etc package for the new kernel. for now i just chose the older kernel in the grub menu
[01:51] <Rede> can i fix this simply or is it easier to just wait for a package?
[01:55] <snikker> how can i remove the last two zereos in a number with sed command?
[01:55] <klerfayt> so if suse uses "patches" for konqueror smooth scrolling does it mean that in kubuntu it isn't possible to use it?
[01:56] <chavo> klerfayt, nothing is impossible
[01:57] <londondave> richardh_: k3b needs to run as root, but there is a utilty that comes with it that sorts that out before you use it as a normal user
[01:58] <erikson> howdy
[02:01] <erikson> trying to set up a network USB printer that's connected a windows pc in another area ...this pc and the windows pc are on the same router ...the network works very well in windows , sharing files etc.... any ideas . I've tried the wizard but no luck .
[02:05] <londondave> erikson: you need samba for that I think
[02:06] <erikson> tried it
[02:07] <londondave> erikson: samba was no good?
[02:10] <erikson> what's the procedure for samba ?
[02:11] <londondave> erikson: does linux see your windows machine on the network?
[02:11] <dAbReAkA> i used a file "drivemounter" yesterday - "sudo bash drivemounter" and my drives got easily mounted.. anyone know where i could get it now?
[02:11] <erikson> no, don't think so
[02:13] <Jack1> hi
[02:13] <Jack1> how can i configure the kwallet, where is it stored in the kmenu?
[02:16] <londondave> erikson: so the printer is connected to the network or to the windows machine
[02:17] <erikson> to a windows machine
[02:18] <kOpter> Yello.. I'm working on an Icon set.. And I'm looking for a png to svg convertor.. does this exist?
[02:20] <londondave> erikson: have you told windows u want to share it? My networking skills are basic, but it sounds like you have it installed as a local printer on the windows box
[02:21] <erikson> I use it as a network printer from this box ..It's a dual boot window/linux , so I can print on the other pc from here in windows
[02:22] <londondave> erikson: linux will need to be connected to the win machine on the network with samba and then it should see the printer
[02:23] <erikson> londondave: so samba should be set up first .
[02:26] <londondave> erikson: yes get samba working so you can see the linux machine from the windows box and vise versa and then you should be able to see the printer from linux
[02:29] <londondave> Jack1:on mine the wallet as a little icon in the sys tray and I can configure from there
[02:29] <erikson> where is samba located ?
[02:29] <londondave> erikson: what do you mean?
[02:32] <philipp__> im trying to install a driver froml exmark, but the self extracting shell script thingie echoes a usage message for the program 'trap'
[02:32] <londondave> erikson: windows uses system message block protocol to communicate on a network, hence the name SaMBa, you need to install it and configure it-there's loads of howto's on that
[02:32] <londondave> !samba
[02:32] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:32] <philipp__> anyone know how to get the gzip stuff out of the file?
[02:32] <erikson> londondave: SMB shared printers (Windows) ?
[02:32] <londondave> philipp__: whats the file name
[02:32] <philipp__> hold on
[02:32] <philipp__> lexmarkz35-CUPS-2.0-1.gz.sh
[02:33] <philipp__> (i need it for the lexmark z25 usb printer)
[02:33] <londondave> thats a shell file: type file lexmark... in konsole and see what it says
[02:34] <londondave> to unzip it you will need to rename it with the '.sh' bit and use gzip -d
[02:34] <londondave> but it dosent sound like you should
[02:35] <philipp__> huh?
[02:35] <philipp__> i already know that its a shell script
[02:36] <londondave> philipp__: I'm thinking it shouldn't be unziped but if you rename it and do gzip -d filename it will unzip it
[02:37] <philipp__> it will? even tho it has shell script stuff in front?
[02:37] <philipp__> ah i think i made it
[02:38] <philipp__> tail +143 lexmarkz35-1.0-1.gz.sh | gunzip | tar xvof - <-- that helped
[02:38] <londondave> erikson: didn't get that
[02:42] <woshee> hello
[02:42] <philipp__> argh
[02:42] <abattoir> woshee: hi
[02:43] <woshee> I don't manage to change the size of my icons in my main taskbar... the option seems to be unavailable in my icons window...
[02:44] <philipp__> what package has files /usr/lib/libtcl?.?.so or /usr/lib/libtk?.?.so?
[02:44] <philipp__> tcltk or something?
[02:45] <abattoir> philipp__: i'd guess so, w/ a devel on it ;)
[02:45] <v|p3r> hi !
[02:45] <philipp__> heh ok
[02:45] <abattoir> woshee: you mean the kicker?
[02:45] <fre1> adept cant look for files in pkg ?
[02:45] <philipp__> stupid driver crap :(
[02:46] <v|p3r> all the time I opened the konkeror i got this error "Cannot find parent item file:///home in the tree"
[02:46] <woshee> abattoir: the kicker? I mean the icons you put to launch apps from the bar
[02:46] <philipp__> why does a driver need tcltk installed? i only need one tiny file for CUPS :o
[02:47] <v|p3r> any ideas?
[02:48] <fre1> try "cd ~" or "cd $HOME" to see if it works
[02:48] <philipp__> just cd puts you to  ~ as well
[02:48] <fre1> then do "ls -ld ~" to see if it is ok
[02:49] <v|p3r> fre1: u say that to me?
[02:50] <fre1> yep
[02:50] <fre1> i dont put your name in front of it because of the |
[02:50] <v|p3r> fre1: where u want to do the ln ?
[02:50] <fre1> too hard to type and my tab completion is failling
[02:50] <v|p3r> fre1: ok np
[02:51] <fre1> you type the command i gave you in a console
[02:51] <v|p3r> if i do a cd ~ take me to my $home
[02:52] <v|p3r> drwxr-xr-x 83 viper viper 4096 2006-07-13 11:02 /home/viper
[02:52] <v|p3r> see
[02:54] <fre1> hmm well everyhting seems nice
[02:54] <fre1> so i dunno :)
[02:55] <fre1> the next steps would be to see the kde conf and i dunno how to do that
[02:56] <timonator> wow
[02:56] <timonator> the installer needs gcc
[02:56] <timonator> and compiles itself
[02:56] <timonator> just for a graphical frontend
[03:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> where can i get the sourcecode for clock applet? i would like to add a simple alarm, directly in the contextual menu of right click, for fast settings..... kalarm is too complicated for me!!
[03:01] <v|p3r> thnxz fre1 anyway
[03:07] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: kclock?  apt-get source kclock
[03:09] <matlec> hi
[03:09] <Kwukki> hello
[03:09] <Kwukki> i seek a deb for kopete 0.12.1
[03:10] <Kwukki> icq bug in 0.12
[03:11] <matlec> is there any kubuntu developer in this channel?
[03:13] <ThunderStruck> matlec: they might be busy atm what is it you need?
[03:13] <Kwukki> is trhere a deb avaible somewhereN
[03:13] <Kwukki> please....
[03:13] <Kwukki> I can't compile it
[03:14] <satafterh> I read that Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake) has DMA automatically enabled for drives that support it. What about ultra dma?
[03:14] <matlec> ThunderStruck: I'm just thinking about writing a module to support multiple sound cards in kubuntu
[03:14] <matlec> ThunderStruck: and so I got to know if I should base a new project on qt4
[03:16] <Kwukki> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[03:16] <Kwukki> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[03:16] <aegeanlinux> install qt-dev
[03:17] <Kwukki> package?
[03:17] <centyx> Kwukki: why don't you apt-get source kopete, apply the patch to fix the problem, and build the package
[03:17] <Kwukki> How?
[03:17] <centyx> Kwukki: apt-get install qt-dev
[03:17] <Kwukki> i'm a noob....
[03:17] <Kwukki> nope
[03:17] <matlec> maybe I should contact the kde guys since it may be of use for all kde users...
[03:17] <centyx> oh
[03:18] <centyx> libqt4-dev?
[03:18] <Kwukki> package is not avaible
[03:18] <centyx> libqt3-dev?
[03:18] <centyx> whichever one you need
[03:18] <matlec> doesn't harm to install them both
[03:18] <centyx> Kwukki: learn you use apt-cache search someword | less
[03:18] <centyx> Kwukki: s/you/to/
[03:18] <Kwukki> i can't install libqt3-dev
[03:20] <matlec> why not?
[03:20] <Kwukki>  srry, i can't give you the errors,
[03:20] <Kwukki> my english isn't very good....
[03:21] <matlec> can you paste the output?
[03:22] <Kwukki> wait
[03:22] <Kwukki> dpkg: ontleedfout, in bestand `/var/lib/dpkg/status' bij regel 107905 pakket `blt':
[03:22] <Kwukki>  veldnaam `Provides2' moet gevolgd worden door een dubbele punt
[03:22] <Kwukki> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[03:23] <Kwukki> how can i fix it?
[03:26] <fender> hi
[03:26] <Kwukki> hi
[03:26] <fender> here english or spanish
[03:26] <hunter> hello everybody
[03:26] <hunter> guess english
[03:26] <fender> :s
[03:26] <aegeanlinux> hunter: what?
[03:26] <matlec> Kwukki: sorry, I thought the output was English :o)
[03:27] <hunter> does anyone knows how to setup a firewall  on kubuntu?
[03:27] <Kwukki> no, but you can guess what it means
[03:27] <Kwukki> error in `/var/lib/dpkg/status', rule 107905, package blt
[03:27] <matlec> Kwukki: that doesn't help me either, sorry
[03:28] <Kwukki> can i 'rebuild' that file?
[03:28] <mattnash> hunter: You want iptables.
[03:28] <fender> where have a irc server in spanish
[03:28] <hunter> yes
[03:28] <fender> i have a problem in my kubuntu
[03:28] <v3ctor> !es
[03:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:28] <richardh_> Hi...I used k3bsetup to settle permission issues, but I still can't burn because cdrecord doesn't have the necessary rights to open the device....anyone?
[03:28] <fender> thank you
[03:29] <mattnash> hunter:  The iptables syntax is complex and frustrating.  I suggest reading a book on it, unless someone else here has a better, freer resource for iptables.
[03:29] <v3ctor> guarddog is a pretty good easy to use frontend for iptables
[03:29] <centyx> mattnash: it's not really that bad...
[03:30] <hunter> mattnash: Ok ..thanks.. just one more thing
[03:30] <mattnash> centyx: I am just afraid of breaking everything with it.
[03:30] <Kwukki> matlec : can i rebuild that file?
[03:30] <hunter> mattnash: do you know if firestarter uses iptables?
[03:30] <v3ctor> yes it does
[03:30] <hunter> cool
[03:31] <SheaTara> am I the only one who has observed artsd having a memory leak?
[03:31] <v3ctor> yes
[03:32] <SheaTara> how comforting
[03:32] <hunter> I have just installed kubuntu here..  where can I find pages saying how to install stuff ( where to find repositories with more stuff etc)?
[03:32] <hunter> the links and stuff
[03:32] <SheaTara> !apt
[03:32] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto - also see !synaptic (gnome) or !adept (kde)
[03:32] <SheaTara> !adept
[03:32] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:32] <centyx> !repos
[03:32] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:32] <SheaTara> hunter: ta-da!
[03:33] <simo> hola
[03:33] <simo> hello
[03:33] <SheaTara> !es
[03:33] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:33] <hunter> thanks but i need the repos to put in my sources.list
[03:33] <centyx> heh
[03:34] <SheaTara> simo: okay, english too -- you can stay :D
[03:34] <hunter> root@hunter-desktop:/home/hunter# apt-get install kd3-mp3
[03:34] <hunter> Reading package lists... Done
[03:34] <hunter> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:34] <hunter> E: Couldn't find package kd3-mp3
[03:34] <SheaTara> hunter: that would be k3b not kd3
[03:35] <SheaTara> hunter: sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3
[03:35] <hunter> oops
[03:35] <hunter> still
[03:35] <hunter> E: Couldn't find package k3b-mp3
[03:35] <SheaTara> !restrictedformats
[03:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:35] <SheaTara> !mp3
[03:36] <SheaTara> ahem, ubotu?
[03:36] <SheaTara> !mp3
[03:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:36] <SheaTara> oh-- same thing
[03:36] <erikson> !Samba
[03:36] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:36] <hunter> i need the repos links to add in my soures list.. can anyone ?
[03:37] <SheaTara> !universe
[03:37] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:37] <hunter> there u go
[03:37] <hunter> thanks
[03:37] <SheaTara> hunter: or, on the one that has deb archive ubuntu stuff, add universe at the end
[03:38] <v3ctor> !easysource
[03:38] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:38] <SheaTara> hunter: change deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main
[03:39] <SheaTara> hunter: to deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main universe multiverse restricted
[03:39] <hunter> ok
[03:48] <hunter> thanks everyone.
[04:01] <timonator> now i unpacked the rpm file manually and got a couple of files. .lut files, .a files, .la files, .so files, .h, and .out
[04:01] <timonator> what to do with them?
[04:02] <dr_willis> thats sort of vague
[04:03] <timonator> well, hold on
[04:04] <timonator> http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/1176
[04:06] <v3ctor> timonator: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1196037
[04:06] <timonator> :/
[04:10] <grothesk> Hallo!
[04:10] <grothesk> Tunepimp (MusicBrainz Tag-Bibliothek) meldet den folgenden Fehler: ".mp3 is not a supported filetype.".
[04:10] <grothesk> Wo bekomm ich denn eine libtunepimp fr kubuntu mit mp3 support her?
[04:11] <v3ctor> !de
[04:11] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:11] <grothesk> Sorry! *g*
[04:11] <v3ctor> no problem
[04:11] <grothesk> Where may I get a version of libtunepimp with mp3 support?
[04:13] <v3ctor> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-29370.html
[04:13] <hunter> my kernel was compiled with gcc version 4.0.3, is it ok to use gcc-4.0 to compile my programs ?
[04:14] <hunter> and also g++-4.0
[04:14] <v3ctor> grothesk: http://sitr.us/blog/files/libtunepimp2c2a_0.3.0-9.1ubuntu4_i386.deb
[04:14] <h3sp4wn> hunter: does gcc -v (list 4.03)
[04:14] <grothesk> v3ctor: Kudos!
[04:15] <hunter> I didn't istall it yet
[04:15] <hunter> install*
[04:15] <hunter> but doing a cat /proc/version i see that my kernel was compiled with gcc version 4.0.3
[04:15] <timonator> v3ctor: any hints on this error message? "ERROR: Unable to open printer port "/usr/lib/cups/backend/z35": Text file busy"
[04:16] <v3ctor> timonator: no...i just found that earlier and i need to try it when i get home from work
[04:16] <timonator> you also have a z25?
[04:16] <v3ctor> yes
[04:16] <timonator> how long will it take for you to come home & online? :)
[04:16] <hunter> i guess i wont have much problems when compiling with it right
[04:17] <v3ctor> timonator: i think it has something to do with the step earlier when they have you run it
[04:17] <timonator> --> /usr/lib/cups/backend/z35 <-- this worked
[04:17] <timonator> and the output was OK, too
[04:17] <hunter> ow good i just installed the 4.0 and after doing a gcc -v i shows version 4.0.3
[04:17] <hunter> weird
[04:18] <timonator> going to restart now, busy stuff can be made unbusy
[04:18] <v3ctor> timonator: 6 hours till i get home to work on it...at least
[04:18] <timonator> oh
[04:18] <timonator> okay...
[04:18] <timonator> cu then i hope!
[04:18] <timonator> brb
[04:24] <timonator> v3ctor: i found a reboot to not help with the busy error message
[04:24] <timonator> maybe replugging the printer
[04:24] <gemidjy> anyone has ATI 9200 SE ?
[04:25] <londondave> Hi all, what's it mean when the wallet icon changes to open in the sys tray?
[04:25] <gemidjy> that u are starting to get stucked with the workst privacy keeper ever, KWallet
[04:26] <londondave> gemidjy: do you think kwallet is no good?
[04:26] <gemidjy> yes
[04:26] <gemidjy> but that is my personal opinion
[04:26] <londondave> gemidjy: so when it changes to open what's that for
[04:26] <gemidjy> changes to open ?
[04:26] <gemidjy> that it is openned
[04:26] <gemidjy> :))
[04:27] <grothesk> londondave: It idicates that some aplication is using it right now.
[04:27] <londondave> grothesk: thanks, the only app that seems to keep it open is kopete
[04:28] <grothesk> londondave: Not surprisingly. It contains your logins to the IM-Servers.
[04:29] <londondave> grothesk: but kmail dosen't though
[04:29] <grothesk> kmail does not keep login in into the mail server.
[04:31] <londondave> grothesk: thanks, I think I get it now
[04:35] <neuron_> hey
[04:36] <RogueX> Hello
[04:36] <neuron_> i accidenaly shift deleted a wrong folder
[04:36] <neuron_> is there any way i could get it back
[04:36] <dr_willis> Ewww
[04:36] <v3ctor> neuron_: restore from backup
[04:36] <RogueX> None of the GL screen savers work.  Any ideas?
[04:37] <dr_willis> set up the video card drivers for your system.
[04:37] <dr_willis> !ati
[04:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:37] <neuron_> and if i have no backup?
[04:37] <RogueX> I installed Nvidia drivers
[04:38] <Hobbsee> RogueX: install kscreensaver-xsavers
[04:38] <RogueX> Hobbsee: I have those installed
[04:38] <Hobbsee> RogueX: sure?  got rss-glx installed as well?
[04:38] <Hobbsee> if you've got those two installed, add xscreensaver-gl, and restart the system settings.
[04:40] <neuron_> is there any way of restoring a folder without a backup?
[04:40] <timonator> v3ctor: the error didnt prevent me from printing, it works now, thanks!
[04:40] <gemidjy> When I use 'fglrx' as driver (ati 9200, kubuntu dapper), and type 'glxinfo
[04:40] <v3ctor> neuron_: did you check trash:/ in konqueror?
[04:40] <gemidjy> sorry
[04:40] <v3ctor> timonator: great
[04:40] <gemidjy> pastebin is slowwwwww
[04:41] <RogueX> Hobbsee: dont have rss-glx installed
[04:41] <h3sp4wn> use pastebin.co.uk
[04:41] <gemidjy> When I use 'fglrx' as driver (ati 9200, kubuntu dapper), and type 'glxinfo' I get this: http://pastebin.ca/88100
[04:41] <v3ctor> timonator: guess i can look foraward to my printer working  tonight ;)
[04:41] <neuron_> v3ctor: i shitft deleted, so its not in there
[04:41] <Hobbsee> RogueX: rss-glx provides decent openGL screensavers - you probably want to install it
[04:41] <v3ctor> neuron_: then it it gone
[04:41] <Hobbsee> RogueX: the screensaver stuff is very screwy.
[04:41] <neuron_> darn, okay
[04:41] <gemidjy> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185033 seems to have answer
[04:42] <timonator> v3ctor: yep. and if not i can help you *lol*
[04:42] <v3ctor> i will hold you to that
[04:44] <timonator> v3ctor: ;)
[04:45] <ranunculoid> Which package do I need to install/update to be able to play FLACs in amarok (this is driving me nuts)
[04:46] <hunter> how do I give permissions so that root can open graphical programs? I keep getting this error : (Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server)
[04:46] <CarNagE> I want to print something using lp but it tells me "Error - no default destination available". What can I do to use my cups-printer?
[04:46] <erikson> when I use the print setup wizard is the "SMB network Windows Printer" option using Samba ?...it says in the options list that it's using the "cups' system ....is this a conflict ?
[04:47] <Philip5> hunter: : xhost + (and any host can open x-apps from that user)
[04:47] <Philip5> hunter: to limit it read on xhost
[04:47] <hunter> xhost + root
[04:47] <hunter> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[04:48] <Philip5> hunter: xhost isn't user based but hostbased
[04:48] <svivian> !seen DaSkreech
[04:48] <ubotu> I last saw DaSkreech (n=Me@208.138.25.107) 10h 47m 21s ago, quiting: Connection timed out
[04:49] <RogueX> OK I installed rss-glx and xscreensaver-gl and no luck.. none of the GL screensavers work since I installed Nvidia drivers
[04:49] <ranunculoid> Can someone please tell me how to play FLACs?
[04:50] <charlie5> does anyone use etherboot ?
[04:50] <hunter> but after I run (: xhost +) in my bash it says  Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server, Xlib: No protocol specified
[04:51] <hunter> still returns that
[04:51] <Philip5> hunter: are you doing it as the loged in user and not root?
[04:51] <hunter> doin it in root
[04:51] <RogueX> Hunter: I have been trying that too.. it has something to do with the Xhost server not listening on port 6000 anymore I thinkkkk
[04:51] <Philip5> hunter: don't
[04:51] <Philip5> hunter: you do it as the user that want to share X
[04:52] <Philip5> or rather Xsession
[04:52] <hunter> ok, just did :xhost + as normal user , but after I log in as root to run the graphical program it still return that error message
[04:53] <hunter> cannot connect to X server :0.0
[04:53] <Philip5> hunter: are you doing it in the same shell?
[04:53] <hunter> yes
[04:54] <RogueX> The Xhost server is not listening on port 6000 for security so you can not connect to it..
[04:54] <h3sp4wn> Use kdesu if you need to run graphical programs as root
[04:54] <hunter> I works when I do sudo <app> as normal user
[04:54] <Philip5> hunter: works for me
[04:54] <hunter> but not directly from root
[04:55] <Philip5> should work for you :)
[04:55] <hunter> weird
[04:55] <timonator> unique_nickname: nice nickname
[04:56] <unique_nickname> can't think of something unique
[04:56] <Philip5> hunter: i login as usuall.... start konsole and type: 'xhost +' and then 'su' after that i can as root use i.e kate
[04:56] <hunter> in my other shell when I run " :xhost +" it says command not gound
[04:56] <hunter> found *
[04:57] <Philip5> hunter: no :
[04:57] <hunter> ?
[04:57] <notamisfit> just xhost + no colon
[04:57] <Philip5> yes
[04:58] <Philip5> xhost +
[04:58] <Philip5> not :xhost +
[04:58] <timonator> xhost +localhost
[04:59] <hunter> after xhost + returns Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[04:59] <hunter> i dont know what Im doing wrong its such a simple thing
[04:59] <hunter> I've done it before but can't remember
[05:00] <Philip5> hunter: neither can i :)
[05:02] <hunter> I restarted my shell and tried again , now it returns : acces control disbled, clients can connect from any host
[05:03] <hunter> either in normal user or root
[05:03] <Philip5> hunter: that's better
[05:03] <Philip5> try a x app now
[05:03] <ranunculoid> Does anybody know how to enable flac support?
[05:04] <Philip5> ranunculoid: install flac libs?
[05:04] <hunter> so do you know how to fix it?
[05:04] <Philip5> hunter: doesn't it work now then?
[05:04] <ranunculoid> Philip5: Which libs are those? I want to play flac in amarok
[05:04] <Philip5> after that message
[05:05] <lin-pio> hi
[05:05] <ranunculoid> hi
[05:05] <lin-pio> anyone speaking spanish or french?
[05:05] <ranunculoid> !fr
[05:05] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:05] <ranunculoid> !es
[05:05] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:05] <ranunculoid> :)
[05:05] <hunter> yes! now it worked
[05:05] <lin-pio> ubotu: merci, gracias
[05:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about merci, gracias - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:06] <ranunculoid> lol
[05:06] <lin-pio> XD
[05:06] <hunter> I did xhost +0
[05:07] <Philip5> hunter: congrats
[05:07] <hunter> thanks Philip5
[05:07] <Philip5> np
[05:07] <RogueX> Hunter:  What did you do to get it working?
[05:08] <RogueX> Or better how?
[05:08] <hunter> I did a xhost +0 from normal user
[05:08] <RogueX> ok then what?
[05:09] <ranunculoid> It cant be hard to play FLAC in amarok, I mean it's a free format - Does nobody here know how??
[05:10] <RogueX> hunter: then what?
[05:11] <R3post> .
[05:12] <RogueX> Philip5: ?  help?
[05:12] <R3post> Witam , moe kto mi powiedzie jaka jest komenda aby zkonwertowa plik formatu .bz2 na format .deb
[05:12] <alfred> rosegarden4 anyone get that to make sound?
[05:12] <RogueX> hunter:?
[05:12] <ranunculoid> !pl
[05:12] <alfred> and not crach too
[05:12] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:12] <R3post> sory that not polish
[05:13] <ranunculoid> !ru
[05:13] <hunter> then its working
[05:13] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[05:14] <RogueX> Hunter: I did the xhost +0
[05:14] <RogueX> Hunter: now what did you do?
[05:15] <berub> hello. Something very strange is going on here: I locked my session (never did that before) and cannot log back in, into that session.
[05:15] <hunter> nothin.. it just works now
[05:16] <RogueX> Hunter: what app did you run then??
[05:17] <hunter> I ran a kommander app
[05:17] <hunter> but anyone works
[05:17] <scott_> heym, anyone know if/how in amarok you can create smart playlists which can be put onto your ipod?
[05:17] <berub> does anyone know how I can unlock that session (as root)?
[05:23] <hunter> RogueX: Are you having the same problem?
[05:23] <berkes> yay. found it.
[05:23] <RogueX> hunter:yes
[05:23] <berub> sudo killall kdesktop_lock did the trick
[05:24] <hunter> RogueX: Close and open your shell, then type "xhost +0" and "xhost +1" then log in as root and try to open a graphical app
[05:25] <hunter> it worked for me
[05:27] <ajay> erikson: yo!
[05:29] <ajay> erikson: ping
[05:32] <Philip5> hunter: did he get it working too?
[05:34] <JRH3K5> Say I want to run a streaming server that has password and login protection, and can be run with Windows Media Player on a remote machine.
[05:34] <JRH3K5> What would you recommend I use?
[05:34] <Admiral_proFTW> JRH3K5, samba?
[05:35] <JRH3K5> This is a remote machine outside of the router
[05:36] <Admiral_proFTW> actually no, you don't want samba
[05:36] <JRH3K5> Though I do have Samba configured
[05:36] <Admiral_proFTW> maybe Apache
[05:36] <v3ctor> apache + .htaccess ?
[05:36] <JRH3K5> I basically want to be able to set a playlist running, go to work, and use WMP to listen to the playlist
[05:40] <JohnFlux> JRH3K5: I think amarok supports streaming
[05:42] <mads_> can someone please tell me from step to step , how i manage to reinstall my win os , what i need help for is to make a good partion. I have tried much , but always ends up with the same result : grub , error 17 , when win is trying to boot after reinstall. i have absolute nothing on my hd that may not be deleted , so a format would do it too, i just dont know how. have tried terminal: fdisk , but cant manage to get it to work. my plan is  to get os xp reins
[05:42] <mads_> y os and then ubuntu as primary.
[05:43] <mindspin> cfdisk
[05:43] <mads_> what parametes must i use there after?
[05:44] <mindspin> none, its interactive
[05:45] <svivian> mads_: You need to install Windows first, as the first partition on the disk. Leave room for Ubuntu further out on the disk. Then install Ubuntu. It should work, and will automatically boot into Ubuntu as the primary OS
[05:45] <mindspin> and kinda selfexplaining
[05:46] <dr_willis> leave a section of the hard drive unallocated - and the isntaller should see and partition/set that size up.
[05:47] <sproingie> anyone know how to make drag-and-drop from konqueror work in digikam?
[05:47] <sproingie> it gives me all kinds of errors about unknown protocols
[05:47] <mads_> okay, thanks , i give it a shot. hope it will work. Have a good eve.
[05:47] <xero> can anyone help me with wpa_supplicant? i've installed it, but it just couldn't connect because of the authentication timeout
[05:48] <sproingie> oh hey now it doesn't give me errors, but silently does nothing
[05:52] <Philip5> JRH3K5: i would check out a streamer engine like icecast, shoutcast or litestream... maybe have a look at muse too
[05:53] <Philip5> or a mod to apache would do it too
[05:54] <mads_> when i do cfdisk it replies Fatal Error , cant open device
[05:56] <thomas> java-package problem: i cant find the the package! universe and multiverse is enebled :/
[05:56] <thomas> i am using 6.06 lts
[05:56] <mads_> so if i start all over : first i install ubuntu yes? how must i set up the partion so that os xp will se it when i want to install it again ?
[05:57] <Cntryboy> To use xgl what exactly is xserver-xgl package
[05:59] <Philip5> thomas: which java package?
[06:00] <mads_> i could relly need to get back the option to boot xp , so i need to get a clean disk that wont have any interfearing software on it. i cant get xp to boot anymore due to the install of ubuntu. doing a reinstall of xp results in an error 17 when i try to boot it .
[06:02] <thomas> Philip5: "java-package" for fakeroot make-jpkg jdk....
[06:03] <thomas> Philip5: "java-package" for fakeroot make-jpkg jdk*.bin
[06:03] <Philip5> thomas: is it suns jdk you want?
[06:04] <svivian> mads_: You need to install Windows first, as the first partition on the disk. Leave room for Ubuntu further out on the disk. Then install Ubuntu. It should work, and will automatically boot into Ubuntu as the primary OS
[06:05] <thomas> Philip5: yes, the sund jdk
[06:05] <svivian> mads_: XP doesn't like to know that there are any other OS on the disk. That's why it has to go in first on a clean disk
[06:05] <thomas> -d
[06:06] <Philip5> thomas: apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[06:07] <mads_> must i reinstall ubuntu first make some partions there like fat32 and nf.. and then from ubuntu choose cfdisk those ? i have tried partion it before hoping xp would see it as an individual disk , but it only offered me to install on entire internal hd, and i did accept that, but then it is that it comes with error 17. when i install win it doesnt offer me any partion it is sort of a "recovery" install 4*disk . ok so if i install xp and then ubuntu , then yo
[06:07] <mads_> an if i decide not to swipe the whole hd when installing ubuntu ? what must i chose in the partion setup in ubuntu install then ?
[06:10] <Philip5> thomas: and they are in multiverse so you need to have that enabled in source.list
[06:10] <mads_> i cant boox xp even thoug i choose to make a complete swipe off
[06:10] <thomas> Philip5: thank you
[06:11] <svivian> mads_: Put the XP install CD in, boot into setup. Format the drive. Then, using the utilities in Windows setup, make a partition on the blank disk for XP. Leave room for your later Ubuntu install, but don't format that space. Then install XP. Once XP is in and running, load Ubuntu. You can format the Linux partitions through it. GRUB should see XP, and automatically include it in the boot menu
[06:13] <Philip5> thomas: np
[06:14] <mads_> booting xp cd leaves me only with one option : recovery. it doesnt let me manuelly set up anything , and wehn i reboot it ends with grub error 17. option alt+f10 doesnt work. im sorry to be a burden , but  i have installed and uninstalled ubuntu and xp so many many times the last 1,2 day.
[06:15] <svivian> mads_: Do you have a real XP Cd or is it the OEM cd from your PC manufacturer
[06:15] <mads_> the last
[06:16] <mads_> it was preinstalld and offered me to make a back up 1st time i ran it
[06:17] <svivian> mads_: That's going to make it harder. You'll probably need a bootable disk utility that can go in and divide up the disk. Alternatively, you can buy a second hard drive, let the OEM CD use up the original drive (as it almost certainly will), then put in the new HD, start the Ubuntu install, and put Ubuntu on the new HD
[06:17] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:19] <mads_> well i have an external hd with room enough for ubuntu . my problem is that i cant make the xp work at all. it does say source and target : fat 32 etc , and it does clean allmost everything from the disk , but then when i have installed xp , press ok to reboot it is coming with the Error 17.
[06:20] <svivian> mads_: is there a particular reason you still want to hang onto Windows?
[06:20] <mads_> hehe
[06:22] <Kristophe> hi everybody, I have lots of photos, and want to print them easily 2 photos per page... Is there anything simpler than kword/ooffice out there??
[06:23] <mads_> well i must admit that i do like the ubuntu very much , i still would like to have the option of using windows too. after all i have a rather big collection of programs to it (tes mainly freeware but wellsorted) , and i think it will give my selfesteem a boost to actually know what im doing now and then + the fact that , well im never afraid of crashing my com , but i would be prouder of myself if i actually could get it back to somekind normal
[06:23] <svivian> mads_: the easiest thing might be to download a floppy image of a 98 boot disk. That should have fdisk on it which you can use to truly wipe the HD. Then you can do a clean install of XP. I suspect the old MBR is hosed on your disk, so you will need to completely wipe it and reinstall. Once you have a good Windows MBR, you can do the Ubuntu install, and GRUB will properly take over the MBR without breaking it.
[06:25] <mads_> ok is thre an image burner in the full package ? i can ofcourse hear if one of the ppl i know has an old win 98 install cd.
[06:27] <mads_> but im glad to hear it is so complicated, it indicated that i probably havent done anything wrong except chosing wrong install setup the 1st tie. think i will leave it for now , using the ubuntu throug out the weekend and see how it goes. its just that i dont even know how to install programs plugins codecs or anything what so ever
[06:27] <timonator> how do i downgrade a packet with adept?
[06:29] <mads_> ok so i will get the best out of it ..
[06:30] <mads_> if i would like to watch an divx or xvid then i must get some codecs or plugins, how do i install those ? i mean there is not an executeable file along is there ? im comparing to eg klite codec pack .
[06:31] <mads_> :] 
[06:32] <Hawkwind> mads_: Use apt-get install
[06:32] <mads_> doesnt ubuntu support extended desktop (dual screen) ?
[06:32] <mads_> ok thanks
[06:32] <Hawkwind> mads_: For example, apt-get install w32codecs and so on
[06:32] <mads_> i write it down on a paper
[06:32] <Hawkwind> mads_: Yes.  I have dual screens with Nvidia
[06:33] <h3sp4wn> mads_: which driver ?
[06:33] <mads_> where do i see that ?
[06:33] <ThunderStruck> Hawkwind: when did w32codecs get into apt?
[06:34] <mads_> the driver*
[06:34] <mads_> i mean it worked ok on os xp
[06:34] <Hawkwind> ThunderStruck: It's in PLF and always has been
[06:34] <ThunderStruck> ah yes not an official one sorry
[06:34] <Hawkwind> PLF is official in many ways.  It's just not legal to put it into the distro itself
[06:35] <mads_> hey
[06:35] <Hawkwind> mads_: Do you have an ATI or Nvidia card ?
[06:35] <mads_> i would think ATI
[06:35] <mads_> sounds more familiar
[06:36] <Hawkwind> Well you need to know for sure what card you have.
[06:36] <mads_> the link www.mplayerhq.hu that popped up when i first ran caffeine player does it offer w32 codecs ?
[06:36] <mads_> ok hang on i find the manual to the com and check
[06:36] <mads_> sorry bout the spam diddnt intend to
[06:37] <recklessv> mads_: might be easier for you to just use easyubuntu to install what you need
[06:38] <mads_> ok is it an option here in ubuntu ? i chose add progs and selected about all except the games
[06:39] <recklessv> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[06:39] <mads_> i think my card is intel gma 900
[06:39] <mads_> thanks
[06:41] <mads_> its like the driver installed doesnt recognize my external monitor , the resoulution is very low without option to change it.
[06:42] <okto> hello all
[06:43] <okto> does anyone use xine-ui in Kubuntu/Ubuntu?
[06:43] <dr_willis> !fixres
[06:43] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:44] <okto> My xine-ui menu fonts is too large..i can't find any way to change it
[06:45] <thomas> bye
[06:46] <mads_> thanks
[06:46] <okto> I tried xine-ui in Knoppix live cd and the fonts is smaller....i've looked at the config but no entry whatsoever about the menu fonts
[06:46] <qwertybob> ive got konqueror crashing anytime i click on a link
[06:46] <Pupeno> I know there's a cups running on some ip on my network, but I don't remember the ip (and I don't have access to that computer). How can I find it ?
[06:47] <qwertybob> should i use 64 version of kubuntu or will 32 bit version work about same on amd?
[06:47] <mads_> ok , im off for supper. I am looking forward to learn the system better :]  . BBL
[06:47] <mads_> thanks for all the help
[06:48] <qwertybob> it seems any of the links in cnn crash konqueror
[06:49] <Pupeno> does anybody know off-hand how to map a network and find out all the ips with port 661 open (with nmap or something like that).
[06:50] <hunter> whats the proper way of accessing a cdrom on kubuntu?
[06:50] <mads_> one more ting , safe removal of hardware (ext. hd's usb mem sticks etc.) is there any option of that ?
[06:50] <hunter> is there a way of mounting it without being root?
[06:51] <hunter> anyone?
[06:52] <hunter> after inserting the disc in the drive it doesnt show up in my media list
[06:52] <dr_willis> odd. it should pop up a window.
[06:52] <hunter> I guess kubuntu doesn't come with automount am I right?
[06:52] <hunter> well it didn't do anything
[06:52] <okto> Hello.....anyone use xine-ui in Kubuntu/Ubuntu?
[06:52] <okto> My xine-ui menu fonts is too large..i can't find any way to change it
[06:53] <okto> i've looked at the config but no entry whatsoever about the menu fonts
[06:53] <hunter> okto: try installing totem-xine
[06:53] <h3sp4wn> mads_: Safe removal ? If you don't unmount it you will lose data
[06:53] <dr_willis> it hoya could always edit the fstab and mount it manually
[06:54] <okto> that is for totem right? I prefer xine-ui
[06:54] <okto> hunter: that is for totem right? I prefer xine-ui
[06:54] <mads_> ok i see , it is the last option when i right cliick on a device yes ? i run danish language set up
[06:54] <hunter> okto: yes
[06:55] <hunter> that bad point is that it will probably need gnome libs
[06:55] <okto> xine-ui in knoppix is much better, smaller and proportional fonts
[06:55] <hunter> okto: I agree
[06:56] <okto> hunter: are you using breezy or dapper, default breezy known to have this problem, not dapper
[06:56] <hunter> okto: how did you install it?
[06:57] <londondave> hi all, I get a problem now and then with ktorrent, sometimes it creates 15 or kioslaves. the hard drive races and the system freezes up?
[06:57] <hunter> okto: well I got the latest version I guess its dapper right?
[06:57] <okto> hunter: i installed it apt-get install xine-ui from konsole
[06:58] <hunter> okto: I just installed that way here and its all fine.. try removing any hidden file of xine from your home user and install it again
[06:59] <qwertybob> can anyone confirm if clicking on links on cnn casues konqueror crash?
[06:59] <qwertybob> i just upgraded motherboard and cpu to AMD 64
[07:00] <hunter> okto: maybe its not a problem with xine-ui at all
[07:01] <okto> hunter: i've tried to install it many times but the fonts in the menu is still too big, if you click the menu--settings--setup you see that the fonts takes too much space, at least in my case
[07:02] <okto> qwertybob: i confirmed, it crashed big time
[07:02] <qwertybob> i know cnn.com links go to offsite
[07:02] <qwertybob> okto: its because it loads images from outside server
[07:02] <qwertybob> i think
[07:02] <hunter> okto: yes it looks little weird here 2 but its readable
[07:03] <qwertybob> okto: somehow i need to enable outside image links
[07:03] <hunter> I can't mount my cd could anyone help me?
[07:03] <hunter> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[07:03] <hunter> after : m
[07:04] <hunter> mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0/
[07:04] <okto> hunter: now you see it, it looks better in Knoppis, even in Xandros...is xine-ui is gtk or gtk+ app?
[07:05] <okto> hunter: put "t-  iso9660" also
[07:06] <hunter> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc
[07:07] <okto> hunter: did u use ..mount /dev/hdxx /media/cdrom0 -t iso9660...type mount in konsole to check
[07:07] <hunter> okto: Im not sure but if you change its settings the fonts will probably go back to normal
[07:08] <hunter> okto: yes I did
[07:08] <hunter> okto: the fstab line is like this: /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[07:09] <hunter> okto: its a dvd burner but i guess it doesnt metter
[07:11] <hunter> okto: Is your linux ubuntu or kubuntu?
[07:11] <hunter> okto: In gnome I guess its alrite but here in kde it sounds dead
[07:12] <okto> hunter;  mine is like this /dev/hdc  /media/cdrom0  udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0 0 and its the only cdrom...i have kubuntu
[07:13] <hunter> okto: And does it work fine there?
[07:13] <okto> if you have the ubuntu/kubuntu in the same machine the program to mount/umount is the same for both, so i guess there should be no problem in kubuntu if you have it ok in gnome
[07:14] <hunter> okto: I upgraded konqueror so maybe its something to do with that.. I will reboot my system and see what happens..
[07:14] <hunter> okto:thanks anyway
[07:16] <okto> hunter: no problem, try to access system menu in kicker and click storage media, that is where your media should show up, diskettes, cdrom , usb disk, etc...clicking them will automatically mount and open the media in konqueror, you can also right click to moutn or umount
[07:17] <angasule> !qt4
[07:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about qt4 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:19] <angasule> are there any issues about installing qt4 on dapper? I see a long list of bugs but none seem too problematic (I want to use pyqt4)
[07:20] <hunter> okto: now its working :)
[07:22] <okto> hunter: after u upgrade konqueror..or?
[07:23] <hunter> nope... i guess it wasn't working because I upgraded konqueror but didn't restart it
[07:23] <okto> anyone with the fix to xine-ui menu fonts being too big?
[07:23] <hunter> but now its up to date and working normally
[07:24] <okto> hunter: good then
[07:37] <angasule> are there any issues about installing qt4 on dapper? I see a long list of bugs but none seem too problematic (I want to use pyqt4)
[07:37] <ubuntu> hola
[07:39] <agh> hola
[07:39] <agh> creo k no hay ningun espaol
[07:39] <agh> goodbye
[07:46] <arso> hello
[07:46] <arso> i need help
[07:47] <notamisfit> any help in particular?
[07:47] <raymond_> yes?
[07:47] <raymond_> wha's rong?
[07:47] <arso> umm
[07:47] <arso> i had this problem last week some guy helped me, it worked
[07:47] <arso> now its back
[07:47] <felix_e> riddell: koffice-latest still points to 1.5.1 - thanks :)
[07:47] <arso> access denied on one of my partitions
[07:47] <arso> does konverrsation keep logs?
[07:48] <notamisfit> which partition, which user, and what are the permissions?
[07:48] <peter84> Hi there. Ive played a little with the kubuntu live cd. And i cant seem to find a wlan aplet similar to the one in ubuntu. Is it just me not looking?
[07:48] <arso> hdb5    ,  donno about the rest
[07:49] <notamisfit> peter84: should be in KDE-menu>internet near the bottom
[07:49] <aldo> Hi. Do you know how to restore the classic Ubuntu boot screen after installation of Kubuntu desktop?
[07:49] <peter84> An applet that stays in the bottom besides the clock?
[07:49] <notamisfit> not sure
[07:50] <arso> notamisfit:  so
[07:50] <notamisfit> arso: have you tried to mount it by hand?
[07:50] <peter84> Its no problem setting up the card and get it running. But i kinda like, to have an applet telling me the strength of the signal
[07:50] <arso> notamisfit:  no
[07:51] <notamisfit> give it a shot example: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb5 /media/hdb5
[07:51] <notamisfit> all the kernel stuff, obviously, and alsa if you've got it built-in
[07:53] <peter84> Ohh and another thing. If i run install kde to in my ubuntu system, is there a way to remove all installed libs and stuff if i dont want it? I should use apptitude right?
[07:54] <h3sp4wn> peter84: If you install kubuntu-desktop with aptitude
[07:54] <h3sp4wn> peter84: Then remove it (with aptitude) it will take most of the stuff away
[07:54] <peter84> most??
[07:55] <h3sp4wn> It will leave .kde in your home directory
[07:55] <notamisfit> rm -r takes care of that quite well
[07:55] <peter84> :-)
[07:55] <peter84> kay
[07:55] <wilfredH> has anyone had any probs with the new koffice? it's asking for an updated version of kdelibs although mine is the latest available
[07:56] <peter84> you have been most helpfull thanks
[07:56] <h3sp4wn> peter84: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop (to remove sudo aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop)
[07:57] <peter84> Thanks
[07:57] <h3sp4wn> aptitude remove leaves configuration files whereas purge deletes them
[07:57] <teknoprep> hey whats up fruitcakes
[07:58] <peter84> kay
[07:58] <teknoprep> de
[07:58] <teknoprep> e
[07:58] <peter84> The only thing i hate, is that i fills the menus in Gnome'
[07:59] <peter84> Have to clean up:-)
[08:01] <teknoprep> how do i install a tgz ?
[08:01] <Kadran> hi how to assign a gateway in ifconfig, and how to relode the network?
[08:01] <charlie5> is there a way to get vendor info about an installed network card ?
[08:01] <Kadran> teknoprep: try to use kompile, it is easy
[08:02] <Kadran> charlie5: i guess macchanger can go it
[08:02] <charlie5> Kadran: thanks ... i'll try it out
[08:02] <Kadran> charlie5: you can also google for the firset xx:xx:xx
[08:03] <Kadran> they define the vendor
[08:03] <Kadran> from the left
[08:03] <charlie5> Kadran: ah, that might be easier ... i don't seem to have macchanger
[08:04] <Kadran> charlie5: if you want it 'sudo apt-get install macchanger'
[08:08] <charlie5> Kadran: thanks again ... i'm trying to work out the ether cards chipset for use with etherboot
[08:09] <RandomDude15> hey alain
[08:09] <alain2k5> hey
[08:09] <RandomDude15> need help with anything?
[08:09] <alain2k5> yes, my sound doesnt work..
[08:09] <alain2k5> and i cant seem to find alsa in adept
[08:09] <alain2k5> or oss
[08:10] <RandomDude15> hmmm.
[08:11] <alain2k5> anyone help?
[08:12] <arso> when i try to unmound the drive i get "hdb5 is busy'"
[08:12] <RandomDude15> what kind of soundcard do you have?
[08:12] <alain2k5> Realtek AC'97
[08:12] <arso> anyone
[08:12] <Kristophe> Anybody knows how to print lots of pictures, 2 per page, without having to do it page per page in oofice?
[08:13] <RandomDude15> so do I and I've never hda to install drivers
[08:13] <RandomDude15> *had
[08:13] <RandomDude15> expect in arch
[08:13] <alain2k5> chris h/o
[08:17] <alain2k5> you are not helping
[08:17] <alain2k5> :-p
[08:17] <RandomDude15> the other people should
[08:19] <Wharf> Hi there.
[08:19] <Wharf> Anyone know for a realy fast server i can download kubuntu dvd from?
[08:19] <Wharf> At about 500KBPS
[08:20] <h3sp4wn> Wharf: Where are you located ?
[08:20] <Wharf> UK bud
[08:20] <Wharf> Does it realy make a diffrence what country you download from?
[08:21] <Wharf> United kindon
[08:21] <Wharf> kingdom*
[08:21] <h3sp4wn> Of course it does
[08:21] <Wharf> Affects speed?
[08:21] <h3sp4wn> uk mirror service (i can get 3.2 megabytes per second from there - on a shell account)
[08:21] <Philip5> Wharf: sunet.se are usually pretty fast
[08:22] <Philip5> alain2k5: have you solved your problem?
[08:23] <Wharf> DO YOU HAVE A URL BY ANY CHANCE?
[08:23] <Wharf> -caps
[08:23] <Wharf> sorry
[08:23] <Wharf> mistake
[08:25] <arso> someone please help me
[08:25] <arso> access denied when i copy/paste from a certain partition
[08:25] <Philip5> Wharf: how fast is this uk site then? http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/releases/6.06/release/kubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso
[08:26] <londondave> arso: say that again, what are you trying to do
[08:26] <Philip5> arso: then you don't have permission to do it as that user
[08:26] <arso> londondave:  hello, when i copy a file from a certain partition (hdb5) and paste it onto any other partition
[08:26] <arso> i get access denied
[08:26] <arso> Philip5:  so how do we deal with that
[08:26] <arso> i wont it to be accessible to all users
[08:27] <Wharf> Philip5, didn't work for me
[08:27] <Philip5> arso: which dir are you trying to do it in?
[08:27] <arso> wat do u mean
[08:27] <Philip5> which directory are you trying to alter files in?
[08:27] <Philip5> might be a reason that is't secured
[08:28] <arso> anywhere in the partition
[08:28] <arso> the whole partition
[08:28] <londondave> arso: I can copy from win xp to linux should be just the same like 'cp /media/win_xp/theFile ./'
[08:28] <Wharf> that server kept timing out for mwe
[08:28] <Wharf> me*
[08:28] <arso> londondave:  sorry, i am lost :(
[08:28] <Philip5> do you want it to be opened to anyone for anything? them chmod 777 /media/partition
[08:28] <Philip5> them=then
[08:29] <londondave> arso: how are you trying to it with a terminal like konsole
[08:29] <londondave> arso: how are you trying to do the copy in konsole?
[08:29] <arso> yes
[08:30] <Philip5> arso: but if it's a partition that get mounted in fstab then it can have been set to be read only too... so it depends on what you are doing
[08:30] <arso> "chmod 777 /mnt/hdb5" did nothing
[08:30] <arso> Philip5:  so we need to edit fstab?
[08:30] <londondave> arso: what command line did you use?
[08:30] <arso> "chmod 777 /media/partition"
[08:30] <gatekeeper> arso: paste fstab - pastebin
[08:31] <arso> gatekeeper:  k,
[08:31] <Philip5> arso: if you have /mnt/hdb5 in fstab look if it have a 'ro' setting
[08:31] <londondave> arso: Philip5 as your answer you need to change fstab to give users permission for the partition
[08:31] <arso> this is the line
[08:31] <teknoprep> hmmm
[08:31] <arso> " /dev/hdb5 /mnt/hdb5 auto defaults,users 0 0"
[08:32] <teknoprep> my bluetooth device isn't auto recognized anymore
[08:32] <teknoprep> wtf
[08:32] <teknoprep> my bluetooth adapter
[08:32] <teknoprep> is there a service i need to start?
[08:32] <Philip5> arso: is it a linux filesystem?
[08:33] <arso> yes
[08:33] <arso> ext3
[08:34] <arso> !pastebin
[08:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:34] <teknoprep> ?
[08:34] <teknoprep> bluetooth
[08:34] <teknoprep> anyone use it?
[08:35] <arso> gatekeeper:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18018 there
[08:35] <londondave> how do you paste to the pastebin, is it a website?
[08:35] <arso> ya
[08:35] <arso> just go to the link, pretty straight forward
[08:35] <abattoir> teknoprep: kbluetoothd
[08:36] <Philip5> arso: what do you get with ls -l /mnt/hdb5 ?
[08:36] <arso> command not found
[08:37] <Philip5> you must have the ls command
[08:37] <arso> woops
[08:37] <eniac_petrov> Friends, I have found project for other Distro CD's shipping - http://free.thelinuxstore.ca
[08:37] <arso> fixed it
[08:37] <Philip5> arso: hehe, what did you do?
[08:37] <arso> ok i get a huge list
[08:37] <arso> forgot "ls" :P
[08:38] <arso> so now wat?
[08:38] <Philip5> arso: give me a few lines in private
[08:38] <arso> private how?
[08:38] <arso> i am not registered
[08:38] <Philip5> ./msg Philip5 some lines
[08:38] <Philip5> without the .
[08:39] <arso> ]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[08:39] <arso> u use msn? or yahoo or any of those
[08:39] <arso> gaim
[08:40] <arso> oh screw it "drwxr-xr-x  2 arso root      4096 2006-06-30 16:23 WUTemp" heres one line
[08:40] <Philip5> arso: try this first... chmod -R 777 /mnt/hdb5
[08:40] <Philip5> as root
[08:40] <arso> "sudo -u" ?
[08:40] <Tommy2k4> how can i make a html file of my audio playlist (m3u or other)
[08:40] <arso>  -su
[08:40] <Philip5> arso: sudo chmod -R 777 /mnt/hdb5
[08:41] <arso> ok
[08:41] <arso> its done
[08:41] <Philip5> try to past now
[08:41] <Philip5> paste
[08:41] <arso> nope
[08:41] <arso> don work
[08:42] <arso> Philip5:  it did not work
[08:42] <Philip5> ok
[08:43] <gatekeeper> arso: is  /dev/hdb5 a hard disk, ie partition *will* always be ext3?
[08:43] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: amarok?
[08:43] <arso> its a partition on a harddisk , always ext3 i guess
[08:43] <Tommy2k4> kaffeine
[08:43] <Tommy2k4> amarok is fine i guess though
[08:43] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: oh, because amarok has a playlist2html script...
[08:44] <arso> gatekeeper:  i didnt get that, but its ext3, and its gonna stay that way
[08:44] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: Tools->Script Manager->General
[08:44] <Tommy2k4> ty
[08:44] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: click about for more info, to see if thats what you need
[08:44] <gatekeeper> arso: Philip5; pointless being auto should be ext3 in fstab, no idea if that is part of the problem
[08:45] <arso> so should we change that
[08:46] <arso> wow i just found out that all the drives get access denied
[08:46] <gatekeeper> arso: I would and reboot, what do you think Philip5?
[08:46] <Agiofws> hello is there  the executable  xorgconfig in Kubuntu ?
[08:46] <Philip5> gatekeeper: in his case i would think it's easier than remounting :)
[08:46] <Leafw> !mp3
[08:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:47] <Philip5> arso: try to reboot
[08:47] <gatekeeper> arso: all the ones with auto or all period?
[08:47] <arso>  like this then "/dev/hdb5 /mnt/hdb5 ext3 defaults,users 0 0
[08:47] <arso> \all auto
[08:47] <abattoir> Agiofws: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ??
[08:47] <gatekeeper> arso: yep
[08:47] <arso> ok then
[08:47] <arso> brb
[08:47] <arso>  restart
[08:47] <gemidjy> xorg-fglrx actually is the free driver for ATI or it is the proprietary ?
[08:47] <Agiofws> abattoir,   xorgconfig <--- is there such an app ?
[08:48] <gatekeeper> Philip5: will see if this is a lucky guess :-)
[08:48] <ajayc> hi guys
[08:48] <ajayc> v3ctor: hi
[08:48] <teknoprep> WTF
[08:48] <ajayc> hi teknoprep
[08:48] <abattoir> Agiofws: not that i am aware of... the command i gave is for configuring x
[08:48] <teknoprep> i put the kubuntu cd in and boot from that
[08:48] <teknoprep> my bluetooth device starts right up
[08:48] <teknoprep> but
[08:48] <teknoprep> with my installed version
[08:48] <teknoprep> its not working
[08:48] <abattoir> teknoprep: kbluetoothd worked?
[08:48] <ajayc> teknoprep: the site for the distro is up please tell me ur views http://ajay.chahar.googlepages.com
[08:48] <teknoprep> yup
[08:49] <teknoprep> the bluetooth device isn't even blinking blue now
[08:49] <teknoprep> it was in kubuntu cd .. but not on my install
[08:49] <Philip5> gatekeeper: we can always hope... not that easy to know what others are doing... sometimes they have done something really strange and it's hard to figure what as you would never do it yourself :)
[08:49] <ajayc> teknoprep: man please tell me ur views
[08:49] <teknoprep> ?
[08:49] <arso> gonna try now
[08:49] <teknoprep> not now ajayc
[08:50] <teknoprep> what is the bluetooth service?
[08:50] <gatekeeper> Philip5: yes had that problem before, even with code I have written :-)
[08:50] <arso> still access  denied
[08:50] <Philip5> gatekeeper: i leave him to you for a while... have to get a shower and something to eat... bbl
[08:50] <Philip5> gatekeeper: lol, well that happens too
[08:50] <arso> gatekeeper: Philip5 still denied :(
[08:51] <arso> btw does konversation save logs on default?
[08:51] <Philip5> arso: can we see you fstab as a binpaste?
[08:51] <arso> sure
[08:51] <abattoir> teknoprep: sudo /etc/init.d/bluez-utils start
[08:51] <ajayc> anyone else interested to comment?
[08:51] <coma> why is using kubuntu so stimulating?
[08:51] <teknoprep> abattoir: already did that
[08:52] <arso> !paste
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[08:52] <abattoir> teknoprep: and bluetooth:/ does not recognise your device?
[08:52] <fre1> coma: because you want to run tell your friends :)
[08:52] <fre1> coma: go for it! :)
[08:52] <teknoprep> my device isn't even blinking
[08:52] <arso> gatekeeper: Philip5 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18020
[08:52] <teknoprep> like my usb bluetooth adapter
[08:52] <ajayc> teknoprep: man just once man please
[08:52] <ajayc> :P
[08:52] <teknoprep> it usually blinks blue light when its hooked up and running
[08:52] <teknoprep> ajayc: not now
[08:53] <Philip5> arso: i'll have a look
[08:53] <arso> Philip5:  thanx
[08:53] <teknoprep> hey i'll brb
[08:53] <arso> Philip5:  so does koversation keep logs :D
[08:53] <fre1> ajayc: man you should do some work and then do the presentation page :)
[08:53] <ajayc> hahaha
[08:53] <ajayc> fre1: u saw it?
[08:53] <fre1> ajayc: i saw a web page designed in 5min :)
[08:54] <ajayc> well waddya expect with googlepages :P
[08:54] <Philip5> arso: /dev/hdb5 is duplicated
[08:54] <ajayc> btw fre1 u know any good free host?
[08:54] <fre1> ajayc: i dunno... some work proving this is not vaporware ? :)
[08:54] <Philip5> arso: and remove the 'users' option
[08:54] <arso> Philip5:  no its not, hdB5 hdD5
[08:54] <teknoprep> i have installed so much crap
[08:54] <teknoprep> i am just going to reinstall
[08:55] <ajayc> fre1: man i want some good host
[08:55] <arso> Philip5:  removed "users: from all
[08:55] <Philip5> arso: oh... my bad
[08:55] <ajayc> fre1: the work has started just want a host
[08:55] <fre1> ajayc: nope i dont know one in particular
[08:55] <galorin> I'm having troubles installing and starting vmware-player, AMD64.  "Module vmnet is not loaded.  Please verify that it is loaded before running this script."  I try loading it with sudo modprobe vmnet but it says "module not found"
[08:55] <fre1> ajayc: my advice is 'focus on doing the actual work more that on the webpage' :)
[08:55] <crazy_penguin> good evening to all!
[08:55] <Philip5> arso: yes... there is no point in that what i can see.. and set 'defaults 0 2' instead
[08:56] <ajayc> fre1: i am focussing but we need a webpage dont we
[08:56] <ajayc> crazy_penguin: good evening
[08:56] <fre1> ajayc: not now
[08:56] <arso> Philip5:  ok
[08:56] <gatekeeper> crazy_penguin: evening
[08:56] <ajayc> fre1: then? after everything is over?
[08:56] <arso> Philip5:  no disrespect, but , u know wat ur doing right?
[08:56] <fre1> ajayc: when you have some work done which proove it is not vaporware
[08:56] <Philip5> arso: yes
[08:56] <arso> Philip5:  great :D
[08:57] <ajayc> fre1: it is not we already  started man :)
[08:57] <Philip5> arso: are you still getting accessed denied in home dir?
[08:57] <fre1> ajayc: it is exactly what im trying to tell you since the begining :)
[08:57] <Philip5> arso: or just in /mnt/* ?
[08:57] <arso> Philip5:  i'll save fstab and check
[08:58] <fre1> ajayc: but im just 1 personn on the internet, you dont have to listen to me :)
[08:58] <ajayc> fre1: so that is what i am saying it aint vaporware cos we have started and almost halfway through it
[08:58] <Philip5> arso: you need to remount to make the effect
[08:58] <arso> oh
[08:58] <ajayc> fre1: no problem ur comments matter too :)
[08:58] <arso> ok
[08:58] <arso> so how do i unmount/remound all without restart
[08:59] <ajayc> adios for now!
[08:59] <fre1> ajayc: ok so if it is not waporware, and you actually did the work, to find a web host is the easy part :)
[08:59] <Philip5> arso: either restart or 'sudo umount /mnt/hdb5' and then 'sudo mount /mnt/hdb5'
[08:59] <fre1> Ajayc, may people are hosting project like that for free. e.g. sourceforge and co
[08:59] <galorin> grr... what you mean not found.. I'm looking right at you vmnet!
[09:00] <fre1> may=many
[09:00] <arso> Philip5:  i'll restart
[09:00] <Philip5> arso: hehe, ok
[09:00] <Philip5> gatekeeper: this can be interesting
[09:02] <abattoir> fre1: he has left :P
[09:02] <gatekeeper> Philip5: you probable know more than me so it's interesting to watch :-)
[09:02] <Philip5> gatekeeper: well i don't program i just admin some stuff
[09:02] <fre1> abattoir: damn! :)
[09:02] <Philip5> not professionally though
[09:02] <abattoir> fre1: lol
[09:03] <londondave> Philip5: you do linux admin?
[09:03] <mads_> a quick one : an simular command to ipconfig (/all) ?
[09:03] <abattoir> fre1: i'm sure you'd miss him ;)
[09:03] <londondave> ifconfig
[09:03] <gatekeeper> Philip5: haven't got round to linux programing yet, only on windows at the moment, but when the winter comes I will probable have a go :-)
[09:03] <Philip5> londondave: not professionally... just my own server
[09:03] <mads_> thanks =] 
[09:03] <arso> Philip5:  i think we messed up fstab
[09:04] <Philip5> arso: what now?
[09:04] <arso> Philip5:  during boot up i got "bad format in fstab line x" a few times
[09:04] <Philip5> arso: past what you have now
[09:04] <arso> then kde didnt load up, had to type "control-d"
[09:05] <Philip5> arso: paste fstab in pastebin
[09:05] <arso> Philip5:  sure
[09:05] <arso> !paste arso
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[09:05] <arso> !paste
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[09:06] <arso> Philip5: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18023
[09:07] <londondave> gatekeeper: what sort of apps do you progam
[09:07] <Philip5> arso: the problem is that you have 'defaults,' which is wrong remove the ','
[09:07] <arso> Philip5:
[09:07] <arso>  /dev/hdb5 /mnt/hdb5 ext3 defaults 0 2
[09:07] <gatekeeper> londondave: work for a GIS company www.strumap.co.uk
[09:07] <Philip5> arso: yes that should work
[09:08] <arso> brb restart
[09:08] <qwertybob> im having a problem nvidia kernel module 7174 but x module 8762 mismatch?
[09:08] <Philip5> gatekeeper: i hope he have created those directories in /mnt/ that he try to mount in
[09:09] <londondave> gatekeeper: what does the strumap app do?
[09:09] <londondave> i thought kubuntu used /media for partitions?
[09:09] <gatekeeper> Philip5: me to, thought it was the ',' that might be doing the damage
[09:11] <londondave> mind u whats in a name media/mnt lol
[09:11] <Philip5> gatekeeper: well that too... and i'm not sure you are allowed to have a empty line like he have in line 8 but you must have a empty last line in fstab... maybe his system think it's end of lines after line 7
[09:11] <gatekeeper> londondave: utility companies use it for their pipework, planing and doing work, analysis and loads of other things
[09:11] <Philip5> gatekeeper: that is what we'll see if it doesn't work for him :)
[09:12] <gatekeeper> Philip5: interesting, like I said you know more than I do :-)
[09:12] <hartmut> hallo
[09:12] <Philip5> gatekeeper: we'll see about that
[09:12] <root__> Philip5:  everything is pretty much fucked up
[09:12] <arso> i am arso
[09:12] <ThunderStruck> !language
[09:12] <arso> lol
[09:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:13] <arso> at checking all filesystems
[09:13] <Philip5> arso: what now?
[09:13] <arso> bad format at line 2/3/8
[09:13] <arso> wouldnt load x, i had to "startx"
[09:13] <arso> now everything is back to default
[09:13] <arso> shortcuts gone and everything
[09:14] <arso> good news is, i can paste
[09:14] <arso> i have access
[09:14] <arso> coz i am root i think
[09:14] <Philip5> arso: what can you access?
[09:14] <arso> everything?
[09:14] <arso> and paste anywhere with no access denied
[09:14] <londondave> arso: ur playing with the file systems, make sure there are no errors in fstab and that the directories in /mnt exist
[09:14] <arso> its "fstab" that we changed
[09:15] <Philip5> arso: also have no empty line in line 8
[09:15] <Philip5> but you must have a empty last line in fstab
[09:15] <arso> okay
[09:15] <arso> wtf
[09:15] <arso> when i go to kmenu> run command
[09:15] <arso> nothing opens
[09:15] <arso> alt f2
[09:17] <Philip5> arso: look here... here is my working fstab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18024
[09:17] <arso> so the "run command" wats up with that
[09:17] <teknoprep> w0ot
[09:17] <teknoprep> i got my bluetooth mouse working
[09:17] <teknoprep> had to use the shell tools to doit
[09:17] <teknoprep> kbluetoothd sucks ass
[09:18] <Philip5> arso: not sure if you can use space between collums or if you have to tab
[09:18] <abattoir> teknoprep: heh, why?
[09:18] <teknoprep> abattoir: sure it finds it
[09:18] <teknoprep> abattoir: how do i pair it in kbluetoothd tho?
[09:18] <arso> Philip5:  my previous fstab worked fine, besides the "copy/paste" thing
[09:19] <abattoir> teknoprep: when you make a connection the first time, it asks about future pairing....
[09:19] <teknoprep> where is the pairing option?
[09:19] <gatekeeper> Philip5: arso:  got to run be back latter good luck!
[09:19] <arso> gatekeeper:  bye
[09:19] <abattoir> teknoprep: it goes into Paired Devices...
[09:19] <Philip5> arso: did you have a empty line in line 8 there too?
[09:19] <teknoprep> nope
[09:19] <teknoprep> no paired devices
[09:20] <abattoir> teknoprep: rt.click tray icon->Configure->Paired Devices
[09:20] <teknoprep> under kbluetoothd
[09:20] <teknoprep> nope
[09:20] <teknoprep> no paired devices
[09:20] <arso> Philip5:  cant get to fstab, cant access" run command"
[09:20] <Philip5> arso: and are you 100% sure that you have ext3 and not ext2 or something else in those partitions?
[09:20] <teknoprep> yet my bluetooth mouse is working
[09:20] <arso> yes
[09:21] <abattoir> teknoprep: hmmm.. my phone goes there automatically
[09:21] <teknoprep> hmmm
[09:21] <abattoir> teknoprep: what about bluetooth:/
[09:21] <teknoprep> micosoft mouse
[09:21] <teknoprep> i like it
[09:21] <teknoprep> really nice
[09:21] <abattoir> i assume its visible there
[09:21] <teknoprep> nope
[09:21] <teknoprep> only under konquerer
[09:21] <Philip5> arso: can't you edit fstab now either???
[09:21] <teknoprep> bluetooth:/
[09:21] <arso> Philip5:   i am gonna restart
[09:21] <teknoprep> i can find it there
[09:21] <arso> Philip5:  no, cant open anything, games and stuff
[09:21] <abattoir> teknoprep: yes, the bluetooth:/ kioslave... that's what i said :P
[09:21] <teknoprep> yeah i see it there
[09:22] <teknoprep> but if i double click the microsoft mouse thats there
[09:22] <teknoprep> it just gives me the services
[09:22] <abattoir> teknoprep: i dont remember, but isnt there an option to pair(and connect automatically) there?
[09:22] <teknoprep> do i have to open up the services with a special program?
[09:22] <teknoprep> nope
[09:22] <abattoir> teknoprep: anyway, i cant test now, dont have a dongle :(
[09:23] <teknoprep> ahhh
[09:23] <teknoprep> my dongle is fubar
[09:23] <teknoprep> never buy a kensington one
[09:23] <teknoprep> i have had many problems with them
[09:23] <abattoir> teknoprep: i have a generic one, w/ no name on it :P, works brilliantly
[09:24] <arso> ok
[09:24] <arso> i can edit fstab now
[09:24] <arso> 2/3/8 line wrong format
[09:24] <ryanakca_> I have konsole running to vt7...ctrl-alt-f7... but Xorg seems to be frosen.. I'm on tty1... ctrl-alt-f1.... is there a way for me to take over the konsole Terminal 1... (first tab) from tty1?
[09:25] <arso> Philip5:  u there man
[09:26] <Philip5> arso: ok... first of all... use tab to space between the settings you have written for your devices and remove the empty line at line 8
[09:26] <arso> Philip5:  could u do me a great favor and do it for me? coz i don wanna mess anything up
[09:27] <Philip5> arso: ok
[09:27] <arso> i'll link u now, or do u have my fstab?
[09:27] <arso> !paste
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[09:27] <Agiofws> how can someone install kde on his ubuntu formthe cd ?
[09:27] <Agiofws> how can someone install kde on his ubuntu from the cd ?
[09:28] <arso> Philip5:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18026
[09:28] <abattoir> Agiofws: You cant, from the Ubuntu CD
[09:29] <ThunderStruck> Agiofws: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:29] <Agiofws> fromthe kubuntu cd
[09:29] <ThunderStruck> Agiofws: you can from the ubuntu cd
[09:29] <abattoir> ThunderStruck: you can?
[09:29] <ThunderStruck> abattoir: i have kubuntu/xubuntu/ubuntu/edubuntu all installed fro ubuntu disk
[09:30] <ThunderStruck> well with repos ebabled
[09:30] <ThunderStruck> enabled
[09:30] <abattoir> ThunderStruck: i think he wants to install KDE from the Ubuntu CD on a ubuntu system which he already has installed
[09:30] <abattoir> which afaik is not possible
[09:31] <ThunderStruck> kubuntu is in universe repo might beable to add universe repo to cd sources (if desktopcd)
[09:31] <ThunderStruck> Agiofws: why from cd?
[09:31] <ThunderStruck> Agiofws: why not use internet to grab the packages using apt-get
[09:31] <Agiofws> maybe tha guy i'm tryingto help doesnot have net
[09:32] <arso> Philip5:  hows it going buddy
[09:32] <abattoir> Agiofws: i think you can add the cd as a repository... and then install 'kubuntu-desktop' from it
[09:32] <Philip5> arso: i'll give you a pastbin soon
[09:32] <abattoir> Agiofws: provided, its a kubuntu CD
[09:32] <arso> Philip5:  thanx a lot :)
[09:32] <Agiofws> it is
[09:33] <Agiofws> abattoir,  would you know how to0 add the cd to the repository
[09:34] <hunter> how do I configure my internet here?
[09:35] <Philip5> arso: found one more thing... in this one you have mounting for /dev/hdd6 to both swap and /mnt/hdd6 is the last one trully right?
[09:35] <abattoir> Agiofws: i'll look it up.. but there should be a default entry for the Ubuntu one, must not be hard to change that to kubuntu
[09:35] <hunter> is there a graphical app that shows the interfaces of my ethernet?
[09:35] <Kevin_Jim> HELP plz
[09:35] <arso> Philip5:  sorry didnt get that
[09:35] <Kevin_Jim> the X server is almost destroed
[09:36] <teknoprep> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[09:36] <Kevin_Jim> can i repear the system via the CD o Kubuntu ?
[09:36] <centyx> hunter: knemo
[09:36] <Philip5> arso: the settings you have in fstab now tries to mount /dev/hdd6 as both a swap file and as a ext3 file system
[09:36] <arso> Philip5:  ohh
[09:37] <arso> Philip5:  i see, so did u fix that
[09:37] <Philip5> arso: i will if you tell me if it's trully a swapfile
[09:37] <abattoir> Agiofws: i think apt-cdrom is what you are looking for
[09:37] <Kevin_Jim> can someone help me ?
[09:37] <Philip5> arso: or is your swap somewhere else?
[09:37] <arso> Philip5: i dont know ...
[09:37] <Philip5> arso: :)
[09:38] <Kevin_Jim> plz ?
[09:38] <arso> Philip5:  maybe we should "auto" them
[09:38] <Kevin_Jim> someone help me if you will
[09:38] <Philip5> arso: if it's a swap then it need other settings
[09:38] <mads_> in the irc clien konversation , isnt it possible to choose where to store the recieved dcc's ?
[09:39] <arso> i dont think its the swap
[09:39] <arso> cos with my previous settings, it had the regular settings of an ext3
[09:39] <Philip5> arso: so where is your swap?
[09:39] <abattoir> mads_: Configure->Behaviour->DCC
[09:39] <arso> Philip5: i dont know :P, but i have one
[09:40] <mads_> in the menu in this client ?
[09:41] <abattoir> mads_: Settings->Configure Konversation->Behaviour->DCC
[09:41] <DarkAudit> grr... firestarter won't let me run mdns-scan
[09:41] <mads_> Great , thanks
[09:42] <martinjh99> Where do I report bugs in latest Koffice 1.5.2 packages??
[09:42] <teknoprep> why is Cedega looking for /dev/snd/seq ?
[09:42] <Philip5> arso: type: sudo fdisk /dev/hdd
[09:42] <Philip5> arso: the press 'p'
[09:43] <martinjh99> Arso try sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdd - Only lists partitions then...
[09:43] <Philip5> arso: what does it tell you that /dev/hdd6 is?
[09:43] <arso> Philip5: "hdd5" is swap
[09:43] <Philip5> arso: ok
[09:44] <Philip5> arso: and /dev/hdd6 is a linux files system?
[09:44] <arso> yes
[09:44] <arso> linux
[09:44] <Philip5> arso: ok that's better
[09:45] <martinjh99> Where do I report bugs in latest Koffice 1.5.2 packages??
[09:45] <abattoir> martinjh99: a problem w/ packaging or w/ koffice?
[09:45] <eniac_petrov> in koffice site
[09:46] <eniac_petrov> search in google. maybe is in sf.net
[09:46] <abattoir> martinjh99: bugs.kde.org, if the latter
[09:46] <eniac_petrov> oh, koffice for ubuntu?
[09:46] <martinjh99> Not sure - Think its a packaging problem see  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18028
[09:46] <svivian> !seen DaSkreech
[09:46] <ubotu> I last saw DaSkreech (n=Me@208.138.25.107) 15h 45m 30s ago, quiting: Connection timed out
[09:46] <martinjh99> Eniac Koffice 1.5.2 which riddell kindly supplies...
[09:47] <Philip5> arso: have a look at this one that should be working and yours: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18031
[09:47] <arso> ok
[09:47] <abattoir> martinjh99: i guess its launchpad then
[09:47] <spoti> hey guys! sometimes I get an error in amarok: xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers...I have to manually change the engine to xine...sometimes it works sometimes the same error...
[09:47] <Philip5> arso: don't forget that there must be an empty last line
[09:48] <abattoir> martinjh99: https://launchpad.net/malone
[09:48] <spoti> can you help me?
[09:48] <Philip5> arso: just to make sure.... don't paste line numbers... :)
[09:48] <martinjh99> :) I'm having trouble finding out where abouts in launchpad/malone I should be looking.  Just tried to have a look and the only version of KOffice I could find is 1.4x
[09:48] <arso> Philip5:  ok sure :)
[09:49] <martinjh99> Abbatoir Malone says that KOffice does not use Malone as BTS...
[09:50] <Agiofws> abattoir,  the thing is tha when he starts up kde he gets  ONLY a small firefox icon  and no kde menu or K-menu can he fix this ?
[09:50] <Philip5> arso: i have to take a shower... try that one and reboot
[09:50] <abattoir> martinjh99: hmmm i find lots of 1.5.x bugs under 1.4 series, so i guess you could file it there
[09:50] <arso> Philip5:  ok
[09:50] <arso> Philip5:  hurry back :P
[09:51] <martinjh99> Abbatoir Malone says that KOffice does not use Malone as BTS...
[09:51] <abattoir> Agiofws: 'he' can try starting the panel manually (kicker) or through a konsole
[09:51] <poseidon> I need help with playing midi files
[09:51] <Agiofws> abattoir,  what do you mean ?
[09:51] <abattoir> martinjh99: i'm not sure about that, but if you suspect it being  a packaging problem i guess malone is where it goes
[09:52] <Kevin_Jim> hey guys my bar saw's only the firefox icon the rest of them as well as the kmenu just desapier
[09:52] <Agiofws> what commmand is it kmenu ?
[09:52] <abattoir> Agiofws: the panel is the taskbar type of thing ;)
[09:52] <martinjh99> :) Yeah your probably right abbattoir but I can't seem to find out where I can report in there...
[09:52] <abattoir> Agiofws: Alt+F1
[09:52] <czeksita> my previous session is broke and i would like to force kde to start with new session. how can i do that? where are files with sesion that i should delete?
[09:53] <Agiofws> alt+f1 and then what ?
[09:53] <abattoir> martinjh99: i agree, it is kinda confusing ;)
[09:53] <Agiofws> abattoir,  how do you start the panel ?
[09:53] <martinjh99> czekista> rm -fr .kde in your $HOME
[09:53] <abattoir> Agiofws: that gets the Kmenu menu, 'kicker' would start the 'taskbar' which has the kmenu button
[09:53] <abattoir> Agiofws: 'kicker'
[09:53] <abattoir> martinjh99: one sec
[09:54] <czeksita> martinjh99: i don't want to remove all my settings :/
[09:54] <czeksita> i just would like to remove previous seesion :/
[09:54] <martinjh99> czesikta> Ah No idea then I'm afraid.
[09:55] <Agiofws> abattoir,  should he remove the .kde ? in his home ?
[09:55] <czeksita> from topic on #kde: "Don't delete ~/.kde !"
[09:55] <abattoir> martinjh99: i guess its bugs.kde.org then :)
[09:55] <czeksita> !!!
[09:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about !! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:55] <czeksita> maybe i should remove the whole home? ;)
[09:55] <abattoir> Agiofws: If he has nothing important to lose, it will be recreated, yes, so it should work
[09:56] <martinjh99> abattior> Found out the place for reporting it in Launchpad/Malone...  We shall see what happens - Thanks!
[09:56] <calilasseia> Hello everyone .... anyone here familiar with OpenOffice?
[09:56] <Philip5> arso: have you tried it yet?
[09:56] <abattoir> Agiofws: well, i didnt read what czeksita said :P
[09:57] <abattoir> Agiofws: though i dont think there'd be anything wrong in doing that :P
[09:57] <Agiofws> me too
[09:57] <calilasseia> I'm having trouble with scripting in Openoffice Calc ....
[10:00] <slow-motion> bbl
[10:00] <fre1> q. fully offtopic but i dunno where to ask "where can i get information about network address/netmask/broadcast address and such when the prefix length is greater then 30 ?
[10:00] <arso> Philip5:  msg me when ur back
[10:01] <fre1> i take any suggestion on a better place to ask too :)
[10:01] <Philip5> arso: i'm back
[10:01] <Philip5> arso: but i'm about to go out and get my some food
[10:01] <Philip5> arso: did it work?
[10:02] <arso> Philip5:  oh welcome
[10:02] <arso> Philip5:  nope
[10:02] <Philip5> arso: so what now then?
[10:02] <arso> Philip5:  i messed a bit with fstab
[10:02] <arso> fixed lines 2/3/8
[10:02] <arso> at startup it keeps not loading up
[10:02] <arso> at checking all filesystems
[10:02] <arso> but i think it should now, gonna restart
[10:02] <arso> so brb
[10:02] <arso> how long does it take u to get food?
[10:03] <poseidon> how do you get /dev/sequencer up?
[10:04] <Philip5> poseidon: you load a kernel module for you soundcard that support that
[10:05] <poseidon> how do you do that? <_<
[10:05] <arso> Philip5:  ok , loaded up fine, after i changed "ext3" to "auto
[10:05] <Philip5> arso: ok
[10:06] <Philip5> arso: very strange if it's in fact a ext3 system
[10:06] <arso> Philip5:  but is that vital in making the access denied issue work?
[10:06] <centyx> using kontact w/ imap resource for calendar/todo/contacts etc... and when it refreshes the imap folder, todos will randomly dissappear
[10:07] <centyx> anyone seen that, or have any idea what could be causing it?
[10:07] <Philip5> poseidon: try: 'modprobe snd-seq' for starters
[10:07] <Philip5> arso: no, not really if it works now
[10:07] <arso> Philip5:  so now wat do we do :(
[10:07] <Philip5> arso: as long as it's not ntfs
[10:07] <centyx> n/m i think i know.
[10:07] <centyx> kontact's running at home
[10:08] <centyx> i hate to just kill it.
[10:08] <centyx> any harm in that?
[10:08] <nixternal> centyx: i have seen that, as i think it is a bug over on kde's list
[10:08] <centyx> nixternal: oh really?
[10:08] <poseidon> philip5: I didn't get any output
[10:08] <centyx> nixternal: thanks
[10:08] <nixternal> no problemo
[10:09] <Philip5> poseidon: you have to do it as root or sudo... and you wont get anything if it's loading... it's worse if you get an error
[10:09] <arso> Philip5:  its not ntfs, all ext3, unless i made some mistake and some are ext2 which i highly doubt
[10:09] <Philip5> poseidon: after that check if you got that in /dev/
[10:10] <poseidon> philip5: it's there, yayo!
[10:11] <Philip5> arso: i have to go and get some food but will be back in 20 min or so... we can look in to it after that but meanwhile type: 'man:/chmod' in konqueror and do some reading :)
[10:11] <Philip5> poseidon: congrats
[10:11] <arso> Philip5:  actually i am reading my logs
[10:11] <arso> i think i can find something there
[10:11] <arso> someone helped me with this last week and i actually forgot it all ::(:(:(
[10:12] <centyx> arso: speaking of logs... it can helpful to make documentation, or notes of what you do to your system
[10:12] <Philip5> arso: hehe
[10:12] <centyx> arso: to help you remember next time
[10:12] <centyx> i log everything i do at work
[10:12] <arso> ya
[10:12] <arso> me 2
[10:12] <centyx> except for irc ;)
[10:12] <arso> u guys are very helpful
[10:13] <arso> but a bit too much since my pc is up 24/7
[10:14] <centyx> well, i actually log irc as well, i just don't log the fact that i use irc ;)
[10:14] <edulix> hi !
[10:14] <arso> lool
[10:14] <arso> edulix:  HI!\
[10:14] <Philip5> poseidon: if you want that module to be loaded every time at start then add 'snd-seq' in a new line in /etc/modules
[10:15] <spoti>  I get an error in amarok: xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers...I have to manually change the engine to xine...sometimes it works sometimes the same error...how can I fix it?
[10:15] <edulix> there are two conflicting packages, koffice-i18n-es (3.5.3) and kde-i18n-es (3.5.3)
[10:15] <edulix> and when installing the later I get:
[10:15] <edulix> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-i18n-es_4%3a3.5.3-0ubuntu0.1_all.deb (--unpack):
[10:15] <edulix>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/es/api/kfontdialog.png', which is also in package koffice-i18n-es
[10:15] <poseidon> philip5: But it won't play anything in rosegarden, kmid, or the midi test in system settings
[10:16] <arso> omg, i think the chat i need wasnt logged
[10:16] <edulix> isn't there a way to let it overwrite it? I really don't care if it's overwriting the icon :P
[10:16] <teknoprep> how do i switch from GDM to KDM ?
[10:17] <spoti>  I get an error in amarok: xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers...I have to manually change the engine to xine...sometimes it works sometimes the same error...how can I fix it?
[10:17] <centyx> teknoprep: man update-rc.d
[10:17] <Philip5> poseidon: type 'lsmod | grep seq' and see if you also have snd-seq-midi loaded
[10:18] <arso> Philip5:  where do u live
[10:18] <Philip5> poseidon: if not load them to...
[10:18] <centyx> teknoprep: disable gdm and enable kdm with that
[10:18] <Philip5> arso: sweden
[10:18] <arso> Philip5:  cool
[10:18] <Philip5> arso: but now i have to go otherwise i won't live anywhere... i'll starve to death
[10:18] <Philip5> bbl
[10:18] <ThunderStruck> teknoprep: sudo update-alternatives
[10:18] <purrdeta> Is there a manufacturer who sells computers with Kubuntu or Ubuntu already set up?
[10:19] <arso> Philip5:  later, be back soon
[10:22] <poseidon> philip5: I have snd-seq-midi.
[10:23] <poseidon> But now you've ran away, so moo.
[10:24] <DaSkreech> !topic
[10:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about topic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:29] <mads_> a friendly osul passed me a link to easyubuntu earlier...i need help on following error:
[10:29] <mads_> EasyUbuntu is now trying to run 'dpkg --configure -a'
[10:29] <mads_> System sanity check: Failed!
[10:29] <mads_> Errors:
[10:29] <mads_> --------
[10:29] <mads_> clvmd could not connect to cluster manager
[10:29] <mads_> Consult syslog for more information
[10:29] <mads_> invoke-rc.d: initscript clvm, action "start" failed.
[10:29] <svivian> DaSkreech: Hey, I found a way to get you that music
[10:29] <DaSkreech> svivian: Cool :)
[10:30] <sysrpl> hello
[10:30] <svivian> DaSkreech:
[10:30] <DaSkreech> Hi
[10:30] <svivian> DaSkreech: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/multimedia/chinese-music/
[10:30] <sysrpl> http://digg.com/politics/George_Bush_Outlaws_Freedom_of_Speech
[10:31] <svivian> The top link on that page has all the old tunes, and a bit further down the page, there is a section on popular music that has other folk tunes
[10:31] <svivian> DaSkreech: I will also be grabbing the childrens tunes and the opera section
[10:32] <DaSkreech> svivian: Interesting
[10:33] <svivian> DaSkreech: all the tunes I was going to send you are on that page
[10:33] <DaSkreech> Ha ha Don't you love ibiblio?
[10:33] <lafrance> is there a way to load gnupg ?
[10:34] <mads_> ok since it doesnt work for me right now , anyone here got a link to get the prober plugins / codecs so i will be capeable to see divx or xvid or even wmv
[10:36] <mads_> i know my questions may seem like i just should do a google , but , really, i will just get the best out of it now.
[10:37] <fre1> groubgroub
[10:37] <DaSkreech> !tell mads_ about restricted
[10:38] <mads_> well well, isnt mp3 restricted ? or has it just been on the scetchboard to restrict them ?
[10:39] <mads_> xvid isnt it free still ?
[10:40] <lafrance> there is free version out there
[10:40] <fre1> like a legal one ? :)
[10:41] <lafrance> oh well like President Bush say define legal ;)
[10:42] <mads_> but as a rule there isnt a plugin / addon that enables me to watch my vids ? not that ive got many really , im just doing basic setup , preparing to put energy in understanding this sys.
[10:42] <lafrance> I use my mac for that so I dont worry
[10:42] <fre1> mads_: like reading the link you have received and applying the command in it ?
[10:42] <imachine> mads_, you can use mplayer.
[10:42] <imachine> kmplayer for kde.
[10:43] <imachine> it plays everything that i know of nicely.
[10:43] <imachine> but it's probably illegal somewhere or something...
[10:43] <mads_> so i google kmplayer ?
[10:43] <imachine> no, you apt-get install kmplayer
[10:43] <imachine> ;-)
[10:44] <imachine> and add the repo in sources.list in /etc/apt/ with the nonfree stuff like mplayer and the w32codecs.
[10:44] <imachine> (tho that only works if you're on x86)
[10:44] <arso> DaSkreech:  u there buddy?
[10:44] <imachine> (so good luck on other archs)
[10:44] <beetlebox> wow ... fox news and cnn aren't by u.s. law allowed to air clips from lebanese news
[10:44] <fre1> imachine: opera is in nonfree ? or another ?
[10:44] <DaSkreech> arso: Nope :-)
[10:44] <arso> DaSkreech:  wazzza
[10:44] <imachine> fre1, i dont know. i dont think it's anywhere :-)
[10:44] <arso> !paste
[10:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:45] <imachine> fre1, i think you have to fetch it from opera.com, there's a deb file for ubuntu 6.06 available explicitly.
[10:45] <imachine> then just dpkg -i it.
[10:45] <arso> DaSkreech:  could uplease take a look at my fstab and tell me wats wrong with it
[10:45] <fre1> imachine: it is somewhere. canonical put it in a repository and it made some noise recently
[10:45] <hunter> I need to give assistance through ssh to my friend .. whats the easiest way of doing it??
[10:45] <imachine> isee.
[10:45] <imachine> dunno then
[10:45] <imachine> :)
[10:45] <fre1> ok :)
[10:45] <arso> DaSkreech:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18038 pleasee :D:D
[10:46] <fre1> hunter: with akeyboard :) ask a more precise question would help you :)
[10:46] <arso> DaSkreech:  when i try to copy/paste anything from a partition to the other i get access denied
[10:46] <mads_> im so sorry , please carry over with me ... apt.get , where is it ?
[10:46] <hunter> fre1:like, how do I configure the basics for making a working connection
[10:46] <talljon84> I'm working on compiling Kopete 0.12. It states it needs KDE header files. What package do I need for this?
[10:47] <hunter> so I can execute commands in his computer
[10:47] <arso> DaSkreech:  so ur NOT there :=(
[10:47] <fre1> hunter, you make it run sshd and ask him for his passwd, and its ip address
[10:47] <fre1> hunter: then you use the ssh lcient to connect it
[10:48] <mads_> ah didnt see , brb =] 
[10:48] <DaSkreech> arso: Sounds like your partition is owned by root
[10:48] <arso> DaSkreech:  meaning?
[10:48] <arso> by owned do u mean "ownership" or "PWNED
[10:48] <hunter> fre1: Let me see if I got it: he needs to run sshd service and I need the cliente right?
[10:48] <DaSkreech> That you don't have rights to write into it
[10:48] <arso> DaSkreech:  so how do i make it owned by all users or watever
[10:49] <arso> DaSkreech:  and is the format of all the lines fine  ? specially 2,3,8
[10:49] <fre1> hunter: yep, get the openssh pacakge from the repository
[10:50] <hunter> fre1: so he needs to install openssh-server since he has a clean install of kubuntu right?
[10:51] <fre1> i dunno the exact pacakge name but it seems good
[10:52] <fre1> make it type 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server'
[10:52] <fre1> btw his box must be reachable by you
[10:52] <fre1> aka no firewall or nat box without portforwarding
[10:52] <arso> DaSkreech:  so any ideas?
[10:52] <fre1> hunter: easier, ask your firend to come here
[10:53] <hunter> Im afraid he cant use apt-get to install openssh-server
[10:53] <DaSkreech> arso: 2 is a comment :)
[10:54] <arso> DaSkreech:  lol.. ok? :P
[10:54] <arso> DaSkreech:  so  u think u can help me?
[10:55] <DaSkreech> do a ls -a on /mnt/hdb5
[10:55] <mads_> function : apt.get , where do i find that ? i should probably have chosen english language , it would have made it all a little easier
[10:56] <lafrance> mad it a terminal command
[10:56] <fre1> with a dash :)
[10:56] <arso> DaSkreech:  u mean line 2?
[10:56] <lafrance> or use aptitude
[10:56] <fre1> and all is in the page you received like 20min ago mads_ :)
[10:56] <mads_> hehe
[10:57] <slow-motion> re
[10:57] <DaSkreech> arso: Yep
[10:57] <arso> DaSkreech:  wat do u mean "a comment"
[10:58] <arso> should we remove it?
[10:58] <arso> and wat about the rest please, how do i make anyone able to write not just root
[10:58] <DaSkreech> no that's fine what did you mean by 2, 3, 8 ?
[10:59] <arso> lines 2 / 3 8
[11:00] <DaSkreech> arso: ok :-)
[11:00] <arso> thanx :D:D
[11:01] <RawSewage> !flash
[11:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:01] <DaSkreech> arso: do a ls -a on /mnt/hdb5
[11:01] <arso> "ls -a /mnt/hdb5"
[11:01] <arso> longlist
[11:03] <DaSkreech> arso: do a ls -a on /mnt/ :-)
[11:03] <arso> how?
[11:03] <arso> :P
[11:03] <DaSkreech> ls -a /mnt
[11:04] <arso> ok
[11:04] <DaSkreech> gimmie the line for hdb5
[11:04] <arso> .  ..  hdb5  hdb6  hdd6  hdd6:  mydisk  mydisk:  new
[11:05] <DaSkreech> ls -a ?
[11:05] <arso> longlist
[11:06] <DaSkreech> gimmie the one for hdb5
[11:07] <arso> ok sorry
[11:07] <arso> i am messing something up
[11:07] <arso> can we do it again
[11:07] <arso> "ls -a /mnt"?
[11:07] <Philip5> arso: still going on? :)
[11:07] <arso> ok once i am there
[11:07] <arso> how do i open hdb5
[11:08] <arso> i am at the place where i get .  ..  hdb5  hdb6  hdd6  hdd6:  mydisk  mydisk:  new
[11:08] <gatekeeper> evening arso: Philip5: DaSkreech: (you winnning ?)
[11:08] -BoDiUSA:#kubuntu- Duble Click On The Red  http://www.speedyshare.com/654868402.html Save Cristina.exe , Then Open And Watch the Best Prono Movie Ever
[11:09] <DaSkreech> gatekeeper: Huh?
[11:09] <arso> gatekeeper:  hello, hopeso
[11:09] <arso> DaSkreech:  the people whove been helping me so far
[11:09] <Philip5> arso: how far have you come?
[11:09] <arso> no where yet
[11:09] <Philip5> arso: trying to solve permission on hdd5?
[11:09] <arso> hdb5 yes
[11:10] <DaSkreech> arso: When you do ls -a /mnt you should get a long list
[11:10] <Philip5> arso: can you browse it or is it you that you can't write to it?
[11:10] <arso> DaSkreech:  when i do ls -a /mnt  i get .  ..  hdb5  hdb6  hdd6  hdd6:  mydisk  mydisk:  new
[11:10] <arso> Philip5:  cant write, copy paste to it, from it
[11:11] <Philip5> arso: i'm more interested in ls -l than ls -a
[11:11] <DaSkreech> sounds like it's owed by root to me
[11:11] <Philip5> as with ls -l you get to see permissons
[11:11] <Philip5> and ownership
[11:11] <heinkel_111> hi guys...if i have duplicate entries Section "Device" in my xorg.conf that is probably bad, right?
[11:11] <DaSkreech> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18038
[11:12] <arso> drwxrwxrwt 26 arso root 4096 2006-07-14 22:24 hdb5
[11:12] <arso> drwxr-xr-x  5 root root 4096 2006-07-14 23:13 hdb6
[11:12] <arso> drwxr-xr-x  5 root root 4096 2006-07-14 21:41 hdd6
[11:12] <arso> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2006-06-30 20:12 hdd6:
[11:12] <arso> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2006-06-30 19:44 mydisk
[11:12] <arso> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2006-06-30 20:01 mydisk:
[11:12] <arso> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2006-06-30 22:49 new
[11:12] <arso> woops, a bit too long
[11:12] <arso> but thats from "ls -l /mnt"
[11:13] <centyx>  /mnt eh
[11:13] <centyx> i finally gave in and started using /media
[11:13] <arso> ya
[11:13] <arso> lol
[11:13] <Philip5> arso: ok but now we are getting somewhere
[11:13] <arso> i hope so
[11:13] <arso> my parents are bugging me to sleep so please try to make it fast
[11:13] <DaSkreech> Philip5: Thanks :) I'm sick so Not thinking correct
[11:14] <arso> ok so now wat?
[11:14] <DaSkreech> Where are you copying to?
[11:14] <centyx> DaSkreech: hope that helps
[11:14] <DaSkreech> centyx: Umm Thanks?
[11:14] <arso> DaSkreech:  anywhere? any other partitions
[11:14] <centyx> DaSkreech: ;)
[11:15] <DaSkreech> arso: Well can you copy to the root of /mnt/hdb5?
[11:15] <DaSkreech> You seem to own that
[11:15] <arso> didnt try
[11:15] <arso> i'll try now
[11:15] <arso> from any other to hdb5?
[11:15] <abattoir> arso: its only 01:15 ;)
[11:15] <arso> yup worked
[11:16] <arso> abattoir:  gotta wake up at 7
[11:16] <arso> DaSkreech:  ya copying INTO hdb5 worked,
[11:16] <arso> DaSkreech:  its out of it that doesnt
[11:16] <DaSkreech> Right
[11:16] <Philip5> arso: where are you trying to copy it to?
[11:16] <DaSkreech> If you want a short fix right now sudo chown -R arso /mnt should work
[11:17] <arso> Philip5:  any of the other partitions
[11:17] <centyx> arso: don't do that
[11:17] <arso> centyx:  ????
[11:17] <centyx> n/m
[11:17] <centyx> sorry l
[11:17] <teknoprep> hmm
[11:17] <centyx> ;)
[11:17] <teknoprep> why be sorry?
[11:17] <DaSkreech> you have defaults,users in the fstab that might need to change
[11:17] <Philip5> arso: try to copy to somewhere you know for sure you have permission to... like your home directory
[11:18] <teknoprep> hmm
[11:18] <arso> dont Philip5 that works
[11:18] <teknoprep> hmmm
[11:18] <centyx> arso: where are you trying to copy to?
[11:18] <teknoprep> get up and party.. get up and dance
[11:19] <DaSkreech> arso are any of these NTFS?
[11:19] <teknoprep> http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=801974&file=filename.pls
[11:19] <teknoprep> really great mix
[11:19] <teknoprep> i am f'n loving it
[11:19] <arso> ok it worked " with that chown
[11:20] <centyx> ugh
[11:20] <DaSkreech> Yeah are any of them NTFS ?
[11:20] <arso> no
[11:20] <DaSkreech> centyx: ?
[11:20] <arso> all ext3
[11:20] <teknoprep> centyx: doesn't like the mix
[11:20] <arso> so waas the chown thing permnt
[11:20] <centyx> teknoprep: not that :P
[11:20] <teknoprep> lol
[11:20] <teknoprep> centyx: check the mix out
[11:20] <teknoprep> centyx: its hot
[11:20] <centyx> teknoprep: no thnx
[11:20] <DaSkreech> arso: Nope next time you boot it will go back to root
[11:21] <centyx> i'm mixed up enough
[11:21] <centyx> ;-s
[11:21] <DaSkreech> But if you have to go to bed now just come back and ask how to not mount the partitions as root
[11:21] <centyx> DaSkreech: ?
[11:21] <Silver_Adept> Question for the assembled: I've managed to get the printer side of my HP PSC 750 to work and be recognized. How do I get the scanner component recognized?
[11:21] <DaSkreech> centyx: !
[11:21] <centyx> DaSkreech: if he chown -R arso /mnt, it chown'd everything under it
[11:22] <centyx> DaSkreech: that's not temporary
[11:22] <arso> u sure??
[11:22] <DaSkreech> centyx: it should go back to root when he reboots
[11:22] <arso> so i should chown every time
[11:23] <DaSkreech> :-) you can get it to mount as you if you like
[11:23] <Philip5> arso: you chown once and it change
[11:23] <mads_> I will soon go to rest. Tomorrow or if I wake up as I usually do in 3 hours I hoe you will help me through, so I can watch fx Dire Straits concert that I fortunetly moved to my external before throwing myself into this. btw I love the "switch between workspace stations" . 3gp is unrestricted /i think) , didnt see it on any of the links i think
[11:23] <arso> but when i reboot it'll be root again
[11:23] <arso> thats a pain in the   ass
[11:23] <Philip5> arso: no
[11:23] <DaSkreech> mads_: Have you installed kmplayer?
[11:23] <centyx> arso: no
[11:23] <DaSkreech> Ok :)
[11:24] <arso> yay
[11:24] <centyx> ;)
[11:24] <centyx> spicy wonton
[11:24] <centyx> clear out your sinuses
[11:24] <arso> THANX A LOT EVERYONE WHO HELPED
[11:24] <arso> u guys rock
[11:24] <Philip5> arso: does it work now?
[11:25] <mads_> no i couldnt find it. notice ive been up for 2 days with only few hours of sleep , so there is probably a whole lot that will appear clearer to me as soon as i have had a good rest =] 
[11:25] <mads_> but i follow in arso's footstep , and says thanks too =] 
[11:26] <arso> Philip5:  yes :D
[11:26] <Philip5> arso: just remember that if it does then it work only for the user who own the directories and root
[11:26] <Philip5> if there are other users on your system
[11:26] <centyx> arso: google unix file permissions
[11:26] <arso> Philip5:  i see, then i'll  ls -l /mnt    sudo chown arso /mnt
[11:26] <centyx> !permissions
[11:26] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html - file permissions are explained at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[11:26] <centyx> there you go
[11:26] <centyx> see what ubotu said
[11:26] <arso> lol
[11:27] <arso> ya thanx
[11:27] <DaSkreech> mads_: Get some rest man you;ll enjoy your Kubuntu install a lot more :)
[11:27] <teknoprep> does google have a pastebin yet?
[11:28] <Philip5> arso: maybe easier for you but now when you are owner you can use konqueror to set permissions on directories inside /mnt/hd**
[11:28] <teknoprep> google is going to be bigger then microsoft and take over
[11:28] <teknoprep> w0ot
[11:28] <Philip5> arso: arso you right click on the dir and select properties and then the permissions tab
[11:28] <arso> Philip5:  i see
[11:28] <arso> Philip5:  wat should i make it
[11:29] <stephan> hi
[11:29] <arso> hi
[11:29] <stephan> does kmail save soware drafts? i had a draft open it in the drafts several times
[11:29] <stephan> but no its gone
[11:29] <gatekeeper> hi stephan
[11:29] <Philip5> arso: read on permission on directories.... what the difference between r w x is
[11:30] <stephan> is there any chance to get it back, was 4h work, i save it often in drafts too not lose it
[11:30] <stephan> o, i'm so stupit
[11:31] <stephan> i just found it
[11:31] <stephan> it was open
[11:31] <arso> Philip5:  ok sure,thnx
[11:31] <angasule> when will pyqt4 be available on dapper, any idea?
[11:31] <Silver_Adept> Any ideas at all on the PSC scanner problem?
[11:31] <arso> goodnight everyone
[11:31] <arso> n thnx a lot
[11:31] <Philip5> arso: nite
[11:32] <gatekeeper> arso: night
[11:32] <centyx> night arso
[11:33] <gatekeeper> Philip5: got it fixed?
[11:33] <Philip5> gatekeeper: yes... but a bit dirty... but then again as it might should be
[11:33] <zzeus> stupid question: howto select text in nano )
[11:34] <gatekeeper> Philip5: well done :-)
[11:34] <centyx> zzeus: use vim :P
[11:34] <gatekeeper> zzeus: shift + cursor key may be ??
[11:34] <zzeus> no
[11:34] <zzeus> and nothing in man
[11:34] <centyx> wow, i didn't know you could select text in nano
[11:35] <zzeus> =\
[11:35] <centyx> ah
[11:35] <centyx> you could use gpm
[11:35] <zzeus> ok... sending nano to /dev/null
[11:35] <centyx> neither beats vim w/ a good .vimrc
[11:35] <zzeus> back in vim
[11:36] <teknoprep> vi
[11:36] <gatekeeper> zzeus: mouse drag works
[11:36] <teknoprep> vi > *
[11:36] <teknoprep> i don't know of any server os that doesn't have vi on it that is unix based
[11:36] <teknoprep> bsd unix solaris linux servers
[11:36] <teknoprep> all have it
[11:36] <teknoprep> os/400
[11:38] <centyx> time to go home
[11:39] <lafrance> night all
[11:42] <gatekeeper> zzeus: looks like Ctrl + G gives you a list of commands and selecting text does not seem to be there
[11:47] <teknoprep> i have 2 sound cards
[11:47] <teknoprep> how do i change the one i want to use?
[11:55] <crazy_penguin> night all!
[11:56] <teknoprep> YO
[11:57] <teknoprep> how do i make my system use my 2nd sound card?
[11:59] <Silver_Adept> Hrm. Are there two available soundcards to use?
[11:59] <Silver_Adept> Rather, were both detected and set up?
[12:02] <Silver_Adept> ...
[12:07] <Silver_Adept> teknoprep: Did both of your sound cards get detected and have their packages installed?