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| BenC | lamont: ping | 01:51 |
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| zul | hey | 02:31 |
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| lamont | BenC: running out for about 4 hours | 03:19 |
| BenC | lamont: any idea what's up with ia64's toolchain? | 03:28 |
| BenC | userspace stuff is failing to compile because it can't find stuff in /usr/include/ia64-linux-gnu/asm/ | 03:31 |
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| zul | can you overide kimagedest with kernel-package or the package name? | 04:18 |
| BenC | should be able to...check the manpage | 04:20 |
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| === Topic for #ubuntu-kernel: Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel GIT tree info (updated): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide | 2.6.17-5.7 uploaded, let's hope the new kernel-package is ok | Daily kernel builds (for debug and testing purposes only) http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/kernels-daily/ | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryKernel | ||
| === Topic (#ubuntu-kernel): set by BenC at Thu Jul 13 20:25:58 2006 | ||
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| zul | hi mdz | 04:42 |
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| mdz | zul: hi | 05:34 |
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| lamont | BenC: dunno - I'll look into it tomorrow or this weekend | 07:19 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:BenC] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel GIT tree info (updated): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide | 2.6.17-5.9 uploaded, Jinxed, kernel-package borked everything, fixed it all up, and now we also have linux-kernel-headers | Daily kernel builds (for debug and testing purposes only) http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/kernels-daily/ | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryKernel | ||
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| jbailey | BenC: Oooo, cool. | 02:19 |
| jbailey | BenC: Lemme know when eyou're around, I'd love to talk a bit more about lkh | 02:20 |
| fabbione | jbailey: hey dude.. Kamion is looking for you about the mesa stuff... | 02:23 |
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| zul | hi | 02:46 |
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| jbailey | Heya Chuck | 03:13 |
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| zul | Hey Jeff | 03:17 |
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| _kylem | jeffx0r. | 03:29 |
| jbailey | kyled00d | 03:30 |
| _kylem | that's all i've got. | 03:31 |
| _kylem | ;-) | 03:31 |
| zul | jeffarino | 03:31 |
| zul | BenC: i have a couple of questions for you when i get back later | 03:32 |
| _kylem | BenC, ok. i reproduced your bug. | 03:50 |
| _kylem | BenC, something like this: | 03:51 |
| _kylem | Loading ramdisk 4516272 bytes @ 3fba0000... | 03:51 |
| _kylem | Branching to kernel entry point 0x00100000. If this is the last | 03:51 |
| _kylem | message you see, you may need to switch your console. This is | 03:51 |
| _kylem | a common symptom -- search the FAQ and mailing list at parisc-linux.org | 03:51 |
| _kylem | ************* SYSTEM ALERT ************** | 03:51 |
| _kylem | BenC, i'm going to rebuild your tree with my .config and see if it's a configuration problem, or some patch you merged. | 03:54 |
| _kylem | BenC, my config boots fine. | 04:12 |
| _kylem | mostly... for some reason it didn't mount / | 04:12 |
| jbailey | _kylem: This is with an Ubuntu initramfs? | 04:13 |
| _kylem | no. | 04:14 |
| _kylem | i don't build modular kernels. | 04:14 |
| jbailey | modules are cuddly. =) | 04:14 |
| _kylem | jbailey, hmm. it didn't detect any of the disks at all. | 04:15 |
| _kylem | but sym2 got probed. | 04:15 |
| _kylem | curious. | 04:15 |
| jbailey | iirc, sym2 is heavily patched in the parisc-linux tree. | 04:15 |
| _kylem | hmm. true. | 04:16 |
| _kylem | so while i make oldconfig'd i noticed there was this 'speakup console' thing... | 04:16 |
| _kylem | i think if you guys have patches that muck with console support it might cause this. | 04:17 |
| jbailey | Yeah. Now as it's booting you can have your machine talk to you: | 04:17 |
| jbailey | "On my way up!" | 04:17 |
| jbailey | "On my way up!" | 04:17 |
| _kylem | or rather, cause what benc. | 04:17 |
| jbailey | "Uh oh" | 04:17 |
| _kylem | ... | 04:17 |
| jbailey | "This isn't good" | 04:17 |
| jbailey | "FOR THELOVE OF GOD!" | 04:17 |
| jbailey | "You didn't need that data did you?" | 04:17 |
| jbailey | "Checking your filesystem." | 04:17 |
| jbailey | "Does CTD mean anything to you?" | 04:17 |
| _kylem | jbailey, fwiw, there's no sym2 patches outstanding to 2.6.18-rc1 that should effect this. | 04:18 |
| _kylem | jbailey, i don't know where 2.6.17 stands on this. | 04:18 |
| jbailey | "I can see this conversation can serve no further purpose. Goodbye." | 04:18 |
| doko | BenC: please join #ubuntu-toolchain when breaking lkh. kthxbye :p | 05:29 |
| BenC | kylem: So you think the speakup stuff broke hppa? | 06:04 |
| BenC | I can certainly attempt to confirm that | 06:04 |
| _kylem | BenC, it's possible. i can probably build faster so i'll test it until i find it. | 06:15 |
| _kylem | i need to go look through the diff and look for any clues. | 06:25 |
| mdz | Recommended packages: | 07:12 |
| mdz | BOOTLOADER | 07:12 |
| mdz | BenC: is that intentionally in all caps? | 07:12 |
| mdz | BenC: also, is 2.6.17-5.9 safe to install on the architectures where it did build successfully? | 07:13 |
| BenC | the kernel is safe, it's just linux-kernel-headers that is broken | 07:21 |
| BenC | and I've no idea about the BOOTLOADER thing | 07:21 |
| BenC | interesting...I forgot to fill in the bootloader stuff | 07:22 |
| BenC | lol | 07:34 |
| BenC | my screen brightness affects my keyboard backlighting | 07:35 |
| BenC | so if I switch to my evo desktop, the keys go black, but if I switch to my terminals (blackback ground), the keyboard lights up | 07:35 |
| cjb | Nice. | 07:36 |
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| BenC | _kylem: I almost have a build done with speakup disable, so I can test it soon | 08:24 |
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| BenC | mdz: let me know if 5.9 or later fixes your via problem | 08:38 |
| mdz | BenC: your keyboard lights up? | 08:39 |
| mdz | I'll boot -5.9 now and see | 08:40 |
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| [g2-build] | BenC, I've pulled the git tree. There used to be a newbiehow for building the kernel has that gone away ? | 08:45 |
| BenC | g2: see links in topic | 08:46 |
| BenC | mdz: Yeah, the pb has a backlight for the keyboard and sensors so it can automatically adjust to ambient light in the room | 08:46 |
| BenC | it even dims the lcd backlight the darker it is in the room (since it doesn't need so much contrast) | 08:47 |
| [g2-build] | BenC, I've got the ubuntu GIT tree from the link above, and the CategoryKernel doesn't seem to have the howto that was there a month ago or so | 08:51 |
| [g2-build] | clearly I'm missing something | 08:51 |
| BenC | oh wow | 08:56 |
| BenC | some ripped out my KernelCustomBuild, and moved it to help.ubuntu.com | 08:57 |
| BenC | so now it doesn't show under the wiki | 08:57 |
| BenC | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile | 08:57 |
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| [g2-build] | BenC, thx :) | 08:58 |
| BenC | I'm not sure why this page was moved to help.ubuntu.com and also removed from wiki.ubuntu.com | 09:02 |
| BenC | that makes no sense | 09:02 |
| BenC | re-added to wiki, so it's there if yu need it | 09:05 |
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| BenC | _kylem: rebuilt with speakup disabled, and still no luck | 09:37 |
| BenC | checked the code, and with it disabled, the console code is basically stock | 09:37 |
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| zul | crap its nearly 4 already? | 09:38 |
| crimsun | BenC: that wiki.uc->help.uc migration was part of the docteam stuff | 09:44 |
| BenC | crimsun: But the doc I had linked to other docs that were not migrated | 09:57 |
| BenC | so it was kind of broken | 09:57 |
| crimsun | lovely :/ | 09:57 |
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| [g2-build] | bbiab | 10:46 |
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| [g2-build] | BenC, ok I've got my first Ubuntu kernel built :) it's stock 386 from the git tree | 10:51 |
| [g2-build] | do I need to build the module-init-tools from source to work around the dependency issue ? | 10:55 |
| [g2-build] | linux-image-2.6.17-5-38fa6a-386 depends on module-init-tools (>= 3.2.2-3ubuntu2); however: | 10:55 |
| [g2-build] | Version of module-init-tools on system is 3.2.2-1ubuntu7. | 10:55 |
| BenC | yeah, unless you want to upgrade libc6 with it (I assume you are running dapper) | 10:56 |
| [g2-build] | yeah dapper latest | 10:56 |
| BenC | you could just copy the blacklist-pata to /etc/modprobe.d/ and do "dpkg --force-depends -i linux-image..." | 10:57 |
| BenC | but proper would be to rebuild module-init-tools | 10:58 |
| [g2-build] | proper is good | 10:59 |
| [g2-build] | I'm not in a super hurry, I'd like to get thing "right" | 10:59 |
| [g2-build] | where do I need to point for the later version of the source ? | 11:00 |
| [g2-build] | getting source gets the current version :) | 11:00 |
| BenC | add "deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main" to /etc/apt/sources.list | 11:01 |
| BenC | sudo apt-get update | 11:01 |
| BenC | apt-get source module-init-tools | 11:02 |
| [g2-build] | now that you mention it it just makes too much sense :) | 11:02 |
| [g2-build] | thx | 11:02 |
| _kylem | BenC, i'll try it on another box and see if i can be more persuasive. | 11:04 |
| BenC | _kylem: I got a successful boot with 2.6.17.3 stock + a500_debconfig | 11:04 |
| BenC | trying ubuntu source + a500_defconfig | 11:04 |
| _kylem | ok. | 11:05 |
| [g2-build] | rebooting | 11:07 |
| BenC | _kylem: ubuntu code + a500_defconfig gets me to a "couldn't mount root" panic, I think because scsi_mod wasn't compiled in | 11:11 |
| BenC | let me check the config | 11:11 |
| _kylem | ok. | 11:11 |
| _kylem | that's the same thing i got with my a500 config + ubuntu kernel | 11:11 |
| BenC | CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y | 11:14 |
| BenC | hmm, it should have gotten the rootfs | 11:14 |
| BenC | I know the sym2 driver loaded | 11:14 |
| _kylem | yeah. it didn't see the disks at all though. | 11:19 |
| _kylem | do you have any changes to sym2 that upstream doesn't have? | 11:19 |
| BenC | just the stuff from pa6 | 11:21 |
| _kylem | ok. | 11:22 |
| _kylem | i'm confused now then. | 11:22 |
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| [g2-build] | uname -a | 11:25 |
| [g2-build] | Linux tom-server 2.6.17-5-38fa6a-386 #1 Fri Jul 14 15:28:47 EDT 2006 i686 GNU/Linux | 11:25 |
| [g2-build] | wheee ! my first ubuntu kernel | 11:25 |
| [g2-build] | BenC, any ETA on building the restricted modules ? I'm running with vesa instead of nv | 11:27 |
| [g2-build] | no pressure, just curios | 11:27 |
| [g2-build] | thx for all the help btw -- you guys (Ubuntu) have the process in nice shape | 11:27 |
| BenC | g2: lrm for what? | 11:34 |
| BenC | dapper should have lrm built for it | 11:35 |
| mjg59 | BenC: 2.6.17 isn't in dapper | 11:35 |
| [g2-build] | hey mjg59 | 11:38 |
| BenC | g2: you'll have to rebuild lrm yourself | 11:41 |
| [g2-build] | mjg59, are there any restricted modules required for the mac mini ? I'd guess the atheros | 11:41 |
| BenC | apt-get source linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 | 11:41 |
| BenC | edit debian/rules and find the ABI, set it to 5-38fa6a | 11:42 |
| mjg59 | [g2-build] : Correct | 11:42 |
| BenC | you'll have to add restricted to the deb-src line first | 11:42 |
| [g2-build] | BenC ok I'd like to walk through this and then I can have a draft update for the wiki | 11:43 |
| [g2-build] | I'll building the nv modules for the desktop first for this kernel is a good thing | 11:44 |
| [g2-build] | well good as in a good test | 11:44 |
| [g2-build] | BenC do you mean linux-restricted-modules-386 ? | 11:49 |
| BenC | that's how you build it, yes | 11:49 |
| BenC | but the package you just mentioned is just a meta-package | 11:50 |
| [g2-build] | right but in edgy main there's no linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 | 11:51 |
| [g2-build] | src that is | 11:51 |
| [g2-build] | and dapper is very unaware of that | 11:51 |
| mjg59 | It ought to be in restricted | 11:51 |
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| [g2-build] | so i need to add deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted | 11:53 |
| [g2-build] | to sources.list | 11:53 |
| [g2-build] | Does this mean they were just uploaded yesterday ? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 | 11:59 |
| [g2-build] | and is "+source" a different place ? | 12:00 |
| BenC | the source doesn't change when I upload for a new kernel | 12:04 |
| BenC | it's just a change in the ABI | 12:04 |
| BenC | not to mention even if I upload, you can use it, since your kernel ABI is different | 12:05 |
| BenC | you have to build it anyway | 12:05 |
| BenC | you can't use it, I mean | 12:05 |
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