=== gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MenZa [n=chatzill@0x535de891.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MenZa [n=chatzill@0x535de891.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:08] hello bimberi [01:08] hi nixternal [01:08] would be nice to have a MTWiki Spec to track === bimberi is doing minutes now - real life intervened [01:08] lol [01:09] i hate when that happens [01:09] the meeting finished at 06:45, had to attend to things like breakfast, children, getting to work ... [01:09] hehe [01:09] i'll be able to do them in spare moments here :) [01:09] fun fun [01:09] take your time on the minutes..no rush [01:11] nixternal: if you think a spec will work for what you want to do then go for it [01:11] im trying to figure that out now [01:12] im looking over other wiki specs..and none of the ones i see have been successfull [01:12] however who know how the management was on it [01:12] yes, but i think the issue there is simply whether ubuntu-marketing should be subscribed to the spec [01:13] i think they should..that way there members can follow and hop on board as it goes [01:13] surely a spec can be a standalone thing - idk yet, but will be looking into it too [01:13] right now...im trying to merge a spec of mine with one of Riddell's, for Kubuntu doc/support system [01:14] you can use a spec as a standalone for sure...but it would be good to have the team involved in it === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:15] thefreak is right ;) [01:19] i think that if anything, products shouldn't have been created, but maybe projects? for creating specs and what not === WildTangent [n=justin_@d141-169-31.home.cgocable.net] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["www.w1ldt4ng3nt.net"] === darkmatter_ [n=darkmatt@206-163-248-13.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === kintaro [n=ad0lf@203.177.212.164] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === thunderstruck [n=thunders@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MenZa [n=chatzill@0x535de891.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [03:31] bimberi: are you going to put the minutes on the wiki as well? [03:32] nm..looks like you already did ;) [03:32] !lart nixternal [03:32] :P [03:33] heh..i never knew about /MeetingLogs [03:34] lots of fun reading there [03:34] im not reading it again ;) [03:35] 3 times (for me) was enough ;P [03:37] i bet [03:41] how come when i send emails to the list, nobody answers them? are they that bad ;) === hybrid [n=666@dpc6745217221.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === _sara [n=sara@pool-70-17-45-241.pskn.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [03:49] hello all [03:49] hi [03:49] I don't know if someone could help me witth the wiki [03:50] hi sara_ [03:50] How do you create a new page? [03:50] sara_, use the templates [03:50] type in the name of the page you want to create: wiki.ubuntu.com/Where/Whatever [03:50] sara_: or just put in the URL you want and type create new page [03:50] then click the template from the list below. [03:51] s/type/click/ [03:51] Ok how do I use a template? [03:51] Where do I put the Url === bimberi is glad sara_ is listening to troy_s [03:51] sara_: in your browser type wiki.ubuntu.com/SaraTestPage [03:52] ok let me try [03:52] when you create documents for your team, you will probably want to start with a template [03:52] nixternal: we all get that ;) [03:52] haha [03:52] arg.. troy_s is in here too === ThunderStruck has never used a template :( never knew how [03:53] sara_, when you have typed that link in, at the top you have 'create new empty page' [03:53] i reckon the longer an email is, the less chance of response [03:53] sara_, but i suggest that you click under the template (any wiki page created with Template in it will show up there) [03:53] ok so how do I pick a tempalte now [03:53] [20:49] indeed... it is a _little_ different, but the generalities of launchpad can benefit almost every team. [03:53] [20:49] Project == Marketing Team, and then the Programs == SpreadUbuntu, Magazine, Press Team....and so on [03:53] well..i meant one line..but you got 2 ;) [03:53] sara_, and when you click one of those templates, you will get the code outline -- you just fill in the blanks. [03:53] yah i got that thanks nixternal [03:54] they didn't though ;) [03:55] nixternal, who is they? [03:55] oh the rest of the folks in here... [03:55] bimberi and sara_ i guess ;( [03:55] ;) [03:55] now i comprehend. [03:55] hehe [03:55] ya troy_s, you and i aren't the only ones in here ;) [03:55] ok I got it thanks, I swear I must be a retard I had just spent like an hour trying to do this [03:55] I'm sorry, but did I miss something === darkmatter_ [n=darkmatt@206-163-248-13.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [03:56] Was I supposed to get something? [03:57] sara_: i'm strugging too :/ [03:57] *struggling even [03:57] what are you struggling with? [03:57] :) [03:57] sara_, bimberi, are you folks ok now? [03:57] Yeah I am good now, thanks for the help [03:57] There are a LOT of wiki tricks, and unfortunately no great massive howto on how to do them [03:57] certain 'keywords' work into full text automatically... like the [[SubPages] ] etc. [03:57] aahhh, Projects and Programs - yes, with it now :) [03:58] Wiki's are very very easy to create, and look good without too much effort. [03:58] Headings for example, automagically appear in the ToC, etc. [03:59] nixternal: that looks good, and then specs are linked to programs ? [04:00] you got it [04:00] Marketing would be the project, and our little tasks could be programs [04:01] SU, Mag, PR, and whatever the future holds would be programs [04:01] then we could create specs to the project in order to create a new program, or create a spec to add to a program [04:02] wait, It sound interesting, but I am not clear waht you rea talking about [04:02] *nods* [04:02] feel free to ping me if you have more questions... i will reply at some point :) [04:03] thx troy_s [04:03] sara_: we create a project "Ubuntu Marketing" or just "Marketing" [04:03] Ubuntu Marketing [04:03] troy_s: thanks, and thanks for coming to the meeting (as i said in the minutes email too) [04:04] a project is a collaboration of programs [04:04] yes, definitely Ubuntu Marketing. Launchpad is a global thing [04:04] true [04:04] for us though, we won't be dealing with programs...our programs are actually projects...but in the case of the launchpad, they are referred to programs because of the dev portions i guess [04:05] anyways...SpreadUbuntu, Magazine, and Press Team would be considered "Programs" on the launchpad [04:05] all those "Programs" would fall under one project which would be "Ubuntu Marketing" [04:05] so where would I put the specs for the Ubuntu magazine [04:05] ? [04:05] you would apply those to the "Ubuntu Magazine" Program [04:06] sara_: specs can be against ubuntu generally [04:06] yes i noticed that with some of the artwork specs [04:06] is that ok to do Burgundavia? i brought this up, so there wouldn't be a million specs in the "Ubuntu" stuff [04:06] ype [04:06] every other spec is just against ubuntu [04:06] see..artwork specs go towards an actual package [04:07] So where is the Ubuntru Magazine program in Launchapd [04:07] ? [04:07] it isn't there [04:07] i was just saying we could look at doing it [04:07] only a proposal, or me just thinking out loud [04:07] ok, I think that we probably want to do it [04:07] well, Burgundavia suggests that we just do it agains "Ubuntu" [04:08] and then subscribe the MarketingTeam to them [04:08] nixternal: yes, but only do _that_ with consultation (ie. to the list) [04:09] i guess i will have to from now on ;) [04:09] nixternal: your emails have not been ignored, just people have not responded to them [04:09] i know Burgundavia..i was pokin' some fun [04:09] i think Jan felt that if we create a spec that it would be immediately against the marketin team [04:09] +g [04:09] I though the same thing [04:09] it will be agains "ubuntu" and the marketing team will just subscribe to it [04:10] My main concer is that I am working on some specs right now, but I don't know where to put them. Should I just put them on Ubuntu markeitng? [04:10] so to create a spec, you would go to https://launchpad.net and select Ubuntu under the distribution, and add a spec that way [04:10] are you talking the wiki? [04:11] if you are creating a wiki page for your spec, and it is related to marketing, i would say yes, do /MarketingTeam/Spec [04:11] but that is just me [04:11] I went to Launchapd and them I went to Marketing team, Specs,New Specification [04:11] really [04:12] if i goto the marketing team, and under specs, all i see is the specs subscribed by the team, i don't see where i can do a "new spec" at [04:12] Maybe I should just finish the one I am working on an if I make a mistake you sould point me on the right direction [04:12] New Specification is under assigments === j_baer_ [n=baerj@c-24-11-169-4.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:17] ah well..im gonna go talk to myself for a bit ;) [04:17] i shall return === MenZa [n=chatzill@0x535de891.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:21] so where would I put the specs for the Ubuntu magazine [04:21] specs will list under whoever you subscribe to them [04:21] meaning the marketing team should probably be subscribed to all the specs. [04:22] start with simple... worry about complex as you need. [04:22] :) [04:22] if i goto the marketing team, and under specs, all i see is the specs subscribed by the team, i don't see where i can do a "new spec" at [04:22] You must go to the default ubuntu specs (where ALL specs are listed) [04:23] and add a spec from there: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+specs [04:23] hope that helps folks. === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Topic for #ubuntu-marketing: Welcome to #ubuntu-marketing. This is the IRC channel of the Ubuntu Marketing Team. | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam | Channel logs at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ | Meeting 2006-07-13 19:00 UTC | Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/SpreadUbuntu === Topic (#ubuntu-marketing): set by jenda at Wed Jul 5 01:34:53 2006 === adamant1988 [n=adam@h-141-153-101-95.ckb.meer.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === troy_s [n=aphorism@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === sara_ [n=sara@pool-70-17-45-241.pskn.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === merriam [n=merriam@84-12-32-127.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === VforVendetta [n=hybrid@208.64.37.45] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === hybrid [n=666@67.45.217.221] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === ormiret [n=ormiret@bodaegl.ormiret.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === ThunderStruck [n=thunders@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === darkmatter_ [n=darkmatt@206-163-248-13.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:47] hey all I just posted some thing on the specs, if any of you have time please let me know what you think [04:47] hey all. === mvirkkil [n=mvirkkil@kosh.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === dotwaffle [i=dotwaffl@wrong.domain.name] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:51] whee [05:51] wheeeeeeeeeeeeee [05:52] oh no [05:52] haha [05:55] lol [05:55] I'm downloading the kororaa live cd thing [05:55] what was talked about for the rest of the meeting? [05:56] i can't remember [05:56] im brain dead [05:56] always cool. [05:57] you ever feel like stuff you try to do is impossible to get done? [05:58] i feel like that right now...maybe sleep would fix it ;) === troy_s [n=aphorism@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === darkmatter_ [n=darkmatt@206-163-248-13.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:58] I get discouraged by a lack of progress [05:59] but as long as the energy is kept high progress will continue. [05:59] +1 === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:59] My problem right now is that A) Spread Ubuntu and the Ubuntu magazine are the first priorities of the team [05:59] Meaning any ideas I have take back burner to the teams project. === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:00] ... [06:00] got booted? [06:01] adamant1988: do what you want [06:01] if you don't, you will get bored/tired and leave [06:02] i'll brb === nixternal__ [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:07] back [06:07] nixternal__ having connection problems? [06:08] i hate irc [06:08] im going back to aol [06:08] lol, how will you communicate with us then? [06:08] stoooopid server [06:08] it loves you too [06:09] nixternal what do you think SpreadUbuntus chance of success is? [06:11] the chance is actually excellent as long as it is manned constantly [06:11] is there a wiki spec up for spreadubuntu yet? or a link? or something? [06:11] it can be active today, and not active tomorrow [06:13] I personally think using an advertising method for a browser to advertise an OS is a bit odd. [06:15] what exactly is spread ubuntu? [06:19] that is part of the problem [06:19] there is no defined idea [06:19] AH! the Ubuntu Marketing ML is starting to break out in marketing pseudo-babble: "How can we synergise our work with other community work." [06:20] the ML is so difficult to keep track of lol [06:21] Laf. [06:22] Found the topic... At least a paper trail. [06:22] im lost in konvo tabs === nixternal looks up [06:23] Burgundavia and wiki moves yet? i need something else to focus on right now ;) [06:23] s/and/any [06:24] just moved some [06:24] sorry [06:24] haha k === nixternal looks at CategoryCleanup [06:25] i swear, that list gets close to 300, and then i take a couple of days away for other projects and boom..right back up there [06:25] hmm...this is the marketing channel..sorry guys ;) [06:31] Has the SpreadUbuntu project REALLY been around since warty? [06:31] is there a wiki spec up for spreadubuntu yet? or a link? or something? [06:31] there's this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/SpreadUbuntu [06:34] yes i saw that in the topic after muddling around. thank you. [06:41] np :) === Cody [n=pumpers@207-119-78-77.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:53] hey [06:53] any recent activity on spread ubuntu [06:53] ? [06:55] Currently gathering design proposals [06:55] there should be a list of tasks apearring real soon now [07:00] good [07:03] with ubuntu working so well, i kind of need something to do [07:04] :) [07:05] its amazing that about two years ago ubuntu was first released. And look at where they are now! [07:08] yeah, things move fast if you get a bunch of people pulling in the same direction. [07:09] too true === kintaro [n=ad0lf@203.177.212.164] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:16] hey [07:18] nixternal: the person you need to ask for a list is jdub [07:18] for? [07:18] list? [07:19] is jdub == waugh? [07:20] yep [07:20] i have..multiple times...mdke already knows of the issue, and said he would poke him about it === Cody [n=pumpers@207-119-78-77.dyn.centurytel.net] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] [07:23] nixternal: he travels extensively for canonical, so he is not often available [07:23] i know that, that is why i don't stress the issue any more [07:24] although, i do feel like emailing him and tell him to change his hackergotchi...everytime i get his blog post from akregator i get a good chuckle for it [07:24] s/for/from === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === RichJ [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === kgoetz [n=ubuntu@easyubuntu/docteam/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === jbrouhard [n=jbrouhar@cm-24-121-115-231.stjoseph.mo.npgco.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:05] Whoa.. *NASTY* storm blowing through here, killed power and cable ;( [08:08] lol @ quit [08:08] jbrouhard: :( === adamant1988 [n=adam@h-141-153-101-100.ckb.meer.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:08] hello all [08:09] hi === adamant1988 kicks nickserv === nixternal [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:09] hey sure [08:09] sugar [08:10] ack [08:10] eating and typing = bad [08:14] Just for you Madpilot : [08:14] is a leading customer driven provider of robust scalable seamless end-to-end IT solutions. We do this through leveraging best-of-breed customer-centric turnkey e-technologies to enable a paradigm shifting synergy between systems and ensure that our customers are provided with a state-of-the-art cutting-edge value-added information experience. [08:15] o_0 === Madpilot chugs the g&t he'd intended to only sip... You are an evil creature, bimberi ;) [08:15] :P [08:16] boiled down, that blob of gibberish bimberi just pooped at us really means, "We build good servers for our customers."... I think [08:16] can someone explain hte SU graphical things? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/SpreadUbuntu#head-7ce3d403bd8929ad030974de84db90f022cde3db what are we supposed to do with it? [08:17] kgoetz: admire the brilliance? [08:17] stare at it [08:17] it'll come to completion quicker === kgoetz stares, zones out, then wonders what its /supposed/ to do :| [08:18] well it's SUPPOSEd to advertise an operating system the exact same way that a web browser was advertised [08:18] Madpilot: i actually made it up one day, there was a website where you could post some marketing speak and it rated the gobbledigookiness of it === jbrouhard is actually preparing to do some work on my own version of the SU... [08:19] haven't made any real decisions yet [08:19] the whole SU project confuses me [08:19] adamant1988: :| i'd probably have more idea of what was going on if i could use the bzr repo, but running off a live cd it isnt really going to happen [08:19] what is the bzr repo? [08:20] adamant1988, supposedly, it's the place things are actually supposed to happen - or something like that... [08:20] so basically.. nothing's going on [08:21] does anyone else think it's slightly odd to try to use the same methods to advertise Ubuntu that were used for FireFox? [08:21] SU currently fails to have a well decribed purpose [08:22] I mean, yeah joe-schmoe probably uses firefox because of SF, but it's a little different when you're telling them to wipe their hard drive and put Ubuntu on it [08:22] kgoetz: the graphical things are there to help decide what the site will look like when it's up. [08:23] They're there ATM for inspiration for other people who want to give ideas. [08:24] The bzr branch is mainly there to test it for future purposes of Spreadubuntu and the marketing team. === jenda isn't really here. [08:24] oh, i could play with that stuff,...if i wasnt running live === kgoetz thought not [08:24] jenda i got a question [08:24] SU isn't just a copy of spreadfirefox with an s/firefox/ubuntu/g It is about formalising efforts that are already underway where users are trying to do marketing for ubuntu [08:24] what font is used for the ubuntu logo ? === hybrid [n=666@easyubuntu/supporter/hybrid] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:25] hte ubuntu logo font [08:25] jbrouhard, Ubuntu-title - it's on wiki.ubuntu.com somewhere [08:25] jbrouhard: wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing , scroll down [08:25] Thanks === adamant1988 gives kgoetz +1 for pointing out the obvious [08:25] actually, it's in repos as well - search for ubuntu-ttf, I think [08:25] yay, +1 === bimberi goggled when he saw it was 9858 in size. Then realised it's bytes [08:29] ttf-ubuntu-title is the package btw === hybrid_ [n=x@easyubuntu/supporter/hybrid] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === hybrid [n=666@dpc6745217221.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === jbrouhard is being a wiseass and doing his own mockup of SU :) [08:38] su`? [08:39] spread ubuntu === hybrid [n=x@dpc6745217221.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:50] I just got a mockup from kassetra. [08:50] Not bad [08:50] :) [08:51] <-- still playing with graphics [08:51] Trying to make this look the way i *WANT* it to ;) [08:51] It's apparently enjoying being a PITA [08:51] ewww pepsi and french onion dip [08:52] ewww Pepsi ;) [08:52] ewww Madpilot === hybrid waves [08:52] ewww offtopic [08:52] heh [08:52] jenda: mine was better :) [08:52] ;) [08:53] goes a-hunting for ubuntu logo :) [08:53] jbrouhard: trademark policy page ;) [08:53] Can anyone host a png for me? [08:53] :) [08:53] I could [08:53] if my server doesn't decide to puke [08:53] (I really hate putting it on the wiki as an attachment) [08:53] jenda, the wiki could :) [08:53] jenda: imageshack.us [08:54] imageshack... trustworthy? [08:54] never had an issue with it === nixternal [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:54] OK [08:56] done. [08:56] now bzr ;) [08:57] jenda, share the png now it's on imageshack? [08:57] http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spreadubuntu1rc.png [08:57] It's on the wiki too. [08:58] hmm... what would happen to that design on narrower/smaller screens? [08:59] No ID [08:59] I'll have the sources soon [09:14] Hmm [09:15] jenda: I hope you don't mind if i literazlly copy and paste your text ? :p [09:34] jbrouhard: I hope ubuntu.com didn't when I did so... ;) [09:35] jenda: want me to go ahead and give it ago? [09:35] MenZa: yes :) [09:35] Right, I might just do that then. [09:36] If I can find time to it, that is. [09:36] I want everyone to go ahead and give it a go, as long as they won't mind if their work doesn't get used in the end. OTOH, I think we'll end up with an amalgam of the proposals, so every input will have it's fruit. === kgoetz [n=ubuntu@easyubuntu/docteam/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [09:36] Nice cloak, kgoetz. I miss it ;) [09:37] Okay [09:37] I think i'm almost ready with this first attempt [09:37] jenda I read that as 'analgame'. [09:37] :) i like it (esp. now the serial number is gone) [09:37] ;\ [09:45] jenda: I'm reviewing some of my work before I submit this ok? I still have a few things I wanna fix tho [09:45] Sure - you can review after submitting as well, of course. [09:45] Or better: submit more ;) [09:46] I plan to submit at least three, if I'm lucky [09:48] Okay. [09:48] how to submit.. E-mail or just give you the link here ? [09:48] link is good enough [09:48] Or you can just add it to the wiki yourself, if you wish [09:48] I'll put it in bzr too [09:49] If there are source files, I'd be glad if you could email me a package ;) [09:50] Right now [09:50] I'm just using Adobe Photoshop [09:51] Okay.. here's my first try' [09:51] http://www.jbrouhard.com/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu1.jpg [09:57] Any feed back from anyone on that ? [09:59] j'sec ;) [09:59] k [09:59] I like it : [09:59] :) [09:59] a lot. [10:00] the circle of friends is a little too far to the right, IMO... === synchronboy [i=synchron@silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:01] That's an easy fix ;) [10:01] ... and the grey bar is unnecessary IMO... while the entire top bar could be substituted with the one on all the other ubuntu pages ;) [10:01] matthewrevell! nick spamming... [10:01] ;) [10:02] and hello :) [10:02] Sorry, forgot I was signed in here. It was a joke in another channel :) [10:02] How did the meeting go? [10:04] I came late, but it went rather well, I think. [10:04] Cool. [10:04] I'll read the logs [10:05] hrm [10:05] Wild idea [10:05] just for shits, I'm thinking of replicating one of the banners from the ubuntu.com pages. === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:08] hello imbrandon === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:08] and ompaul ;) [10:08] and me? [10:08] I do not warrent a greeting of my own? ;-) [10:08] hi jenda [10:08] heya jenda [10:08] lol ompaul === jenda crafts ompaul a handmade greeting [10:09] haha [10:09] sudo apt-get install ompaul-greeting-custom-0ubuntu1 [10:11] ahh thanks [10:11] kintaro? [10:11] Well if it ain't... ;) === silbs [n=jane@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === stefg [n=stefg@dslb-088-072-217-230.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:56] hi jenda.whats up? [10:58] yes..what is it jenda?sory for late replay... ;) === ThunderStruck [n=ThunderS@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mindspin [n=mindspin@pD95FD8F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === bigtoe [i=fwuser@forestel.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === _sara [n=sara@pool-70-17-45-241.pskn.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:20] hello all === _sara [n=sara@pool-70-17-45-241.pskn.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:23] good adamant [04:24] yay [04:24] I'm ticked. [04:24] 'bout what? [04:25] I had this wonderful idea for a user interface that could really push Ubuntu to being different. [04:25] and it's ALREADY BEEN DONE. almost exactly like I dreamed up [04:25] that's too bad [04:25] i'll say [04:25] :| [04:26] symphony os =\ [04:29] hmm [04:29] i have never heard of the mezzo desktop [04:30] it's clean, elegant, and widget based. [04:30] yeah, it looks good [04:32] basically it eliminates bars and menus [04:33] corner targets are a good idea [04:33] Yeah I thought of that as a way to eleminate bars [04:34] and then I saw a screenshot of symphony last night and I'm liek "son of a..." [04:34] i would have a question about the functionality with dual monitors though [04:34] corner targets would not be as useful with two monitors [04:35] <_sara> or a widescreen [04:35] i'm not sure how it handles dual monitors [04:35] but I imagine wide screen is the same as default [04:36] <_sara> yeah but corners are not so attractive targets [04:37] why is that setup so much better? (looking at this screenshot http://www.symphonyos.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=30 ) [04:38] did I say better? no I said unique, simple, clean, and elegant.... I don't think it offers anymore functionality than with the one we use now... it just looks cooler [04:38] oh ok === kgoetz misread tehn === kgoetz is probably to much of a gnome your-system-has-panels addict to get it. [04:40] haha, I just want to see ubuntu be unique [04:40] and it was a good idea until I found out it had been done... so I'm back to the drawing board === kgoetz sugests E17 as standard - thats unique [04:41] <_sara> I don;t think that it depends so mush in ubuntu as mush as gnome or kde or whatever you use [04:41] yeah, I just don't expect gnome or kde to really ever do anything different. [04:42] i don't think that you would want to change the ui too much if you want to get ubuntu to the masses...you will want them to see something that they are familiar with. [04:42] are they familiar with mac os X? [04:42]